1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,460 Once again, it's that time of the week. With no jingles, no 2 00:00:05,460 --> 00:00:09,450 music, no talent and no apparent agenda. My name is Adam curry 3 00:00:09,630 --> 00:00:12,030 here in the curry condo in San Francisco. 4 00:00:12,510 --> 00:00:14,670 And I'm John C. Dvorak actually sound more like you're in the 5 00:00:14,670 --> 00:00:15,570 curry bucket. 6 00:00:15,780 --> 00:00:19,110 Really? Let me see. Maybe I can. Oh, no, that's because I'm on 7 00:00:19,110 --> 00:00:22,200 the on the mobile setup. So when I do it from home, then you get 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,050 the nice, really clear sound. And now I'm basically talking to 9 00:00:25,050 --> 00:00:28,560 you through a little hole in my laptop screen. Oh, really? Yeah. 10 00:00:29,010 --> 00:00:31,680 Sure. The laptop. Yeah, well, I'm talking into my microphone. 11 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:35,880 But the sound that's going into Skype is, is through the laptop 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:36,270 mic. 13 00:00:36,899 --> 00:00:40,169 Okay, so you're gonna sound better on the broadcast? Oh, 14 00:00:40,169 --> 00:00:40,499 yeah. 15 00:00:40,530 --> 00:00:44,010 Oh, yeah, baby. In fact, I'm vibing all over my own sound 16 00:00:44,010 --> 00:00:45,360 right now as we speak. 17 00:00:45,509 --> 00:00:48,899 We should do it to Leo does when I do the twit thing with him, he 18 00:00:48,899 --> 00:00:50,939 like makes himself sound great. And everybody else sounds like, 19 00:00:51,570 --> 00:00:54,900 do you guys do that on Skype? Or do do you do it on I chat? It's 20 00:00:54,900 --> 00:00:57,570 done on Skype. Okay, that works out pretty well. It sounds 21 00:00:57,570 --> 00:00:59,400 pretty, pretty decent. Yeah, 22 00:00:59,430 --> 00:01:01,890 yeah. The, you know, the drawback is that wanted to do a 23 00:01:01,890 --> 00:01:05,610 couple of other shows like they wanted to do. I still want to do 24 00:01:05,610 --> 00:01:10,830 and I'm going to try I do a pod cast or pod show cast with a 25 00:01:10,830 --> 00:01:13,770 bunch of comics and deconstruct jokes, I still think it'd be a 26 00:01:13,860 --> 00:01:16,380 very fascinating show. And I know a lot of comics, my wife 27 00:01:16,380 --> 00:01:20,160 used to produce comedy. And the problem is, is like getting, you 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,730 know, first getting people up to speed on Skype. And then making 29 00:01:23,730 --> 00:01:25,560 sure they have a good enough connection to do it. Otherwise, 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,830 you really can't do any of this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind 31 00:01:28,830 --> 00:01:29,640 of self limiting. 32 00:01:29,820 --> 00:01:33,420 Well, you know, the they have a computer though, right? Most of 33 00:01:33,420 --> 00:01:33,690 these P 34 00:01:33,690 --> 00:01:35,970 everyone has a computer with it looks like as a mouse, you don't 35 00:01:35,970 --> 00:01:39,210 have to like go there and set it up. Right. Yeah. Because a lot 36 00:01:39,210 --> 00:01:41,460 of people have broadband, they have the capability to do this 37 00:01:41,460 --> 00:01:43,080 stuff. But they just don't know how to do 38 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,660 it. And you don't like you don't like phone calls. 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,250 You know, they're just too hard to mix. It has a phone call 40 00:01:50,250 --> 00:01:52,830 sound. I mean, Skype, even when it's not working well, and it 41 00:01:52,830 --> 00:01:55,950 breaks up once in a while. Has an in studio sound that I think 42 00:01:55,950 --> 00:01:57,390 people prefer to listen to. 43 00:01:57,420 --> 00:02:01,980 Right. Yes, it does sound better. I agree. I agree. Okay, 44 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:04,740 John has been a man. It's been a long month, we're at the end. 45 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,530 And I just found out that I might actually be staying 46 00:02:07,530 --> 00:02:10,170 another another week here in San Francisco. 47 00:02:10,739 --> 00:02:12,899 Oh, that's great. Yeah. 48 00:02:14,220 --> 00:02:17,100 You better grease up day because I'm been away from home too 49 00:02:17,100 --> 00:02:17,460 long. 50 00:02:17,970 --> 00:02:22,830 Yeah. Well, I'll stay away from you then. So what's what do we 51 00:02:22,830 --> 00:02:25,110 have on the you know, you were telling us? You know, we had 52 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:27,300 actually had lunch the other day. And you were mentioning a 53 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:29,490 couple of items I think we should discuss and one of them 54 00:02:29,490 --> 00:02:33,840 was your your continue? You can your continue to hassle by the 55 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,880 TSA when you come into the country? 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,690 Yeah. And it's, it's not the TSA. Technically, it is the 57 00:02:39,690 --> 00:02:44,850 Customs and Border Protection Agency, I think they are. Okay, 58 00:02:44,850 --> 00:02:47,100 so you're basically being stopped by the customs guys at 59 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:47,430 the end? 60 00:02:47,460 --> 00:02:50,580 Exactly. So whenever, yeah, it is very different. It's also a 61 00:02:50,580 --> 00:02:54,900 part of Homeland Security. But it is it is a completely 62 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:57,060 different department. But it starts the minute you go through 63 00:02:57,060 --> 00:03:00,810 those glass corridors where you talk to the customs agent. And 64 00:03:00,810 --> 00:03:03,960 then they look at your passport, they scan the RFID chip that's 65 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,620 in there, because I have a new passport. And then they look at 66 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:10,470 the terminal. And every single time it's like, all this 67 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:12,930 tapping, typing, you know, looking looking back at my 68 00:03:12,930 --> 00:03:16,290 passport typing, typing, and, you know, and then I always get 69 00:03:16,290 --> 00:03:20,820 a big, big M, on my on my customs form. And and this time 70 00:03:20,820 --> 00:03:24,330 I asked, you know, what is that for? For many, many what? Well, 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,510 I don't know, just many, many, really. So then you 72 00:03:27,510 --> 00:03:30,420 get to they do have a bunch of codes that they put on there. I 73 00:03:30,420 --> 00:03:35,520 know. There's a line sometimes it's different colours. Yeah, 74 00:03:35,550 --> 00:03:38,250 well, yes. It must be a website that describes these things, 75 00:03:38,250 --> 00:03:38,880 don't you think? 76 00:03:39,540 --> 00:03:42,450 They have their own website and it talks about everything on the 77 00:03:42,450 --> 00:03:45,630 security form and why you could be stopped and or the customs 78 00:03:45,630 --> 00:03:47,370 form and why you could be stopped. Because what happens 79 00:03:47,370 --> 00:03:49,560 then is, you know, as you have your luggage and you hand that 80 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,620 off to the officers there, they say, Oh, you have to go this 81 00:03:52,620 --> 00:03:56,490 way. And this way is it's not through like the agricultural 82 00:03:56,490 --> 00:04:02,070 line. They put my my customs form into a into a plastic 83 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:05,430 envelope, which is blue, because they also have yellow ones. I'm 84 00:04:05,430 --> 00:04:07,380 not quite sure what the blue is for. And then I have to go up to 85 00:04:07,380 --> 00:04:09,690 another officer at the desk. And then he starts going into all 86 00:04:09,690 --> 00:04:12,720 these questions. They don't even look at my bag. It's something 87 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,900 else. You know, it seems to be a lot of questions about Are you 88 00:04:15,900 --> 00:04:18,240 sure you're not carrying more than $10,000? 89 00:04:19,410 --> 00:04:21,900 Well, you know, you're known as Mr. Moneybags. Yeah, well, 90 00:04:21,900 --> 00:04:24,930 I had this big black bag with me, but they still don't look at 91 00:04:24,930 --> 00:04:28,650 it. And you know, at this time, he had the guy actually went to 92 00:04:28,650 --> 00:04:30,840 his supervisor, and then he came back. And of course, I was 93 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:34,020 prepared. I had a business card this time. And I just for yucks, 94 00:04:34,020 --> 00:04:36,930 I said, he said, Do you have any more ID? I'm like, Well, yeah, 95 00:04:36,930 --> 00:04:38,880 so you have my passport, a business card. Oh, here's my 96 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,160 pilot's licence and see maybe if that'll mess with his head. 97 00:04:41,670 --> 00:04:44,310 That's cool. But that didn't make any difference. And then I 98 00:04:44,310 --> 00:04:44,550 said, 99 00:04:44,820 --> 00:04:46,680 You know what, you're missing a Costco card. 100 00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:50,910 I'll try that next time. And I said, you know, so what is this? 101 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:51,660 By the 102 00:04:51,660 --> 00:04:54,660 way, by the way, just to interrupt the story. And I will 103 00:04:54,660 --> 00:04:58,440 Jake course I do it better than anybody else. When people ask me 104 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,140 for a photo ID I always show him a Costco cart because it has a 105 00:05:01,140 --> 00:05:01,740 photo on it. 106 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,740 Okay, well, the only photo ID I have is my passport because 107 00:05:04,740 --> 00:05:07,530 there's no law that no driver's licences don't have photo IDs on 108 00:05:07,530 --> 00:05:07,680 them. 109 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:10,560 Anyway, go ahead with the strobe sorry, 110 00:05:10,590 --> 00:05:13,350 right. So, so I say, you know, could you please tell me what's 111 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:16,380 going on? Oh, it's nothing. It's just random. I said, this is 112 00:05:16,380 --> 00:05:18,630 three times in a row that I've come into the state. And he 113 00:05:18,630 --> 00:05:21,750 says, that's exactly what random is. I said, Uh huh. As if it 114 00:05:21,750 --> 00:05:26,760 says right here, you know, the CBP procedures will be explained 115 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,640 to me is one of your, you know, one of your mission statements 116 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,880 here? It says, Yeah, well, it's just random. So what kind of 117 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,640 information he says, you know, stuff is in there that we don't 118 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,330 control or change. And so there you go, it's just random, he was 119 00:05:39,330 --> 00:05:42,270 clearly just not going to tell me not going to tell me what's 120 00:05:42,270 --> 00:05:45,150 going on. But now that I've done a little bit of research, 121 00:05:45,780 --> 00:05:47,940 there's about a million people on these lists. And there's all 122 00:05:47,940 --> 00:05:51,810 different kinds of lists. And I'm on a pretty insignificant 123 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:54,150 one, if I look at some of the hassles that other people are 124 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:56,730 going through. And of course, I'm not going to actually try 125 00:05:56,730 --> 00:05:59,250 and get off of this list. I mean, this is all the hassle I 126 00:05:59,250 --> 00:06:02,100 get, I can live with that. I think it's probably would open 127 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:05,490 up a bigger can of worms, if I send in all my details and try 128 00:06:05,490 --> 00:06:07,860 to follow through just the frustration alone, because no 129 00:06:07,860 --> 00:06:11,340 one seems to be able to actually find out how to get off these 130 00:06:11,340 --> 00:06:16,320 lists, except for one, which is if you have the same name as a 131 00:06:16,350 --> 00:06:21,000 suspected terrorist, the system is set up to change that. But 132 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,390 the system from what I have read is not set up to actually remove 133 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:25,950 people from the list entirely. 134 00:06:28,350 --> 00:06:36,510 That makes sense. Yeah. So I know there's a guy, I forgot 135 00:06:36,510 --> 00:06:39,930 what it is, is one name like Bill Johnson, or there's some I 136 00:06:39,930 --> 00:06:44,220 mean, they the TV shows here in the US, they harp on this one 137 00:06:44,250 --> 00:06:46,590 name, I can't remember the name exactly. I think some like Bill 138 00:06:46,590 --> 00:06:50,550 Johnson very common name, or, or Jerry Jensen, or there's some 139 00:06:50,550 --> 00:06:54,240 very common name, and then it's the maxed out name. I mean, 140 00:06:54,270 --> 00:06:57,420 you're at the top of the terrorist list and everything 141 00:06:57,420 --> 00:07:00,480 these people literally cannot get on a plane. 142 00:07:01,650 --> 00:07:06,240 I'm just thinking, I'm just realising that about nine or 10 143 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,830 months ago, there was a deal that we tried to put together 144 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:15,090 with a radio network. And that deal for a whole bunch of 145 00:07:15,090 --> 00:07:20,220 reasons fell through and the main guy on the other side, sent 146 00:07:20,220 --> 00:07:24,570 me an email at one point and threatened me that he would call 147 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:29,310 up his buddies at customs and get me make sure that I had a 148 00:07:29,310 --> 00:07:31,890 cavity search each time I came into the country that was 149 00:07:31,890 --> 00:07:34,710 basically what he said I should look up the emails pretty funny. 150 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,870 So I'm wondering if that has something to do with it? If so, 151 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:43,050 then that of course is something that should be traceable and is 152 00:07:43,050 --> 00:07:46,740 a huge misuse of power. But I'm not really being investigated 153 00:07:46,740 --> 00:07:49,140 for any contraband I don't think you're 154 00:07:49,230 --> 00:07:51,750 being harassed. Now the thing is, you say you know it should 155 00:07:51,750 --> 00:07:54,060 be traceable. But then again, it might not let me tell you my 156 00:07:54,060 --> 00:07:57,300 story, which is not quite as horrendous but it's actually 157 00:07:57,300 --> 00:08:01,710 more annoying because it's a continuing one we have an 158 00:08:01,710 --> 00:08:04,320 account of you know, because we're part of the in the west 159 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:09,360 coast or you're stuck with us SBC which is a TNT and so we end 160 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:12,300 anyway our phone gets slammed a lot of next you know because we 161 00:08:12,630 --> 00:08:15,510 people calling up to try and get you to switch now well, 162 00:08:15,510 --> 00:08:18,510 it's not even there in Bali call calling anymore they just do it 163 00:08:19,050 --> 00:08:21,270 but it's not that it's that there's all these extra services 164 00:08:21,270 --> 00:08:24,690 they add to the 18 T bill and let me just explain you know we 165 00:08:24,690 --> 00:08:28,500 have a long time ago this is like me and the burners and the 166 00:08:28,710 --> 00:08:32,340 cell phones people who listened to me a lot know that i i prefer 167 00:08:32,340 --> 00:08:38,220 buying these disposables Oh yeah. And well with the with our 168 00:08:38,430 --> 00:08:41,370 phone service, we only have local service and is the same up 169 00:08:41,370 --> 00:08:46,560 in Washington in here. And we use calling cards to make long 170 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:50,460 distance calls because it's just there's no comparison you don't 171 00:08:50,460 --> 00:08:53,610 have to worry about a lot of that just a cheaper more 172 00:08:53,610 --> 00:08:56,280 sensible thing to do if you can do it because the quality is 173 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,390 sometimes even better. And so we don't have long distance service 174 00:09:00,900 --> 00:09:01,860 to on the phones 175 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,380 you're funny man John C Dvorak. Keep going. 176 00:09:08,009 --> 00:09:10,889 Okay, so we have no long distance service because we just 177 00:09:10,889 --> 00:09:13,079 dial the 800 number and make it long you know, whatever we do, 178 00:09:13,529 --> 00:09:18,989 and besides I use prefer people calling me even though I don't 179 00:09:18,989 --> 00:09:21,239 keep them machine but anyway, let's get back to this Alright, 180 00:09:21,239 --> 00:09:24,809 so every once every two months the next thing you know we've 181 00:09:24,809 --> 00:09:28,979 got long distance service we have all these crazy services 182 00:09:28,979 --> 00:09:32,399 that we never use because I don't like for example having a 183 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:34,829 call waiting because I don't like to be talking to somebody 184 00:09:34,829 --> 00:09:37,559 on the phone and then having the phone call interrupted by 185 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,619 somebody else who's just you know, could be a sales call. 186 00:09:40,650 --> 00:09:44,460 Yeah, but that's but that's the beauty of of caller ID if I 187 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:47,790 don't recognise the number I you know, if I hear the beep i like 188 00:09:47,790 --> 00:09:50,220 call waiting I'll you know, I'll just look while I'm talking. A 189 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:52,980 lot of people think it's fantastic. I think it stinks and 190 00:09:52,980 --> 00:09:57,510 I don't like the beep. So anyway, but so we have next 191 00:09:57,510 --> 00:10:01,980 thing we so this was happening over and over. So We We got a TN 192 00:10:01,980 --> 00:10:05,610 T to give us a password. So every so you cannot do anything 193 00:10:05,610 --> 00:10:09,210 on our supposedly on our phone without giving them the 194 00:10:09,210 --> 00:10:11,790 password. So some, you know, buddy's gonna say 195 00:10:11,790 --> 00:10:14,880 oh yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. So they said they set up the 196 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,500 password so you can't change it? 197 00:10:17,910 --> 00:10:20,880 No, we can change it. Oh no, they saved the password so 198 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,340 somebody else can't change it. Okay, got it. Because what's 199 00:10:23,340 --> 00:10:26,460 been going on is somebody else's changing it. And so now so now 200 00:10:26,460 --> 00:10:29,850 it got changed again, like a week ago. Inside Job then 201 00:10:30,270 --> 00:10:33,270 totally an inside job anyway. So we started, or my wife started 202 00:10:33,270 --> 00:10:35,070 grilling this guy saying, Well, what about the password? Does 203 00:10:35,070 --> 00:10:37,890 anybody get looked at it? Yeah, apparently all those people that 204 00:10:37,890 --> 00:10:40,860 call, they can bring up your record and your password, your 205 00:10:40,860 --> 00:10:42,240 password is on there 206 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,450 some some fucking phone monkey for eight bucks an hour sitting 207 00:10:45,450 --> 00:10:46,980 there looking at all the passwords. 208 00:10:47,460 --> 00:10:50,280 Exactly. And so we keep having to deal with this. And this 209 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,370 never goes away. I know. My wife says I've you saying She always 210 00:10:53,370 --> 00:10:56,310 thinks it's somebody that hates me. You know, some Macintosh 211 00:10:56,310 --> 00:11:00,990 user still has a grudge about something I said, 99 212 00:11:01,410 --> 00:11:04,050 Wait a minute, I get an email that you've been harping on 213 00:11:04,050 --> 00:11:07,470 leopard. So you know, they could it could be a new new, 214 00:11:07,710 --> 00:11:10,350 like leopard. So this is the joke of it. I just talked about 215 00:11:10,350 --> 00:11:12,240 an on tech five today, you can check it out if you're 216 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,390 interested in tech five.pacho.com You know, the 217 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:22,110 under listeners. And I say you know, people are calling it lib 218 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:26,280 tard and they're having all kinds of issues when it crashed 219 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,240 for me at the office today for the first time ever. Oh, really? 220 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,760 Yeah, crashed because they couldn't load some Excel 221 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,820 spreadsheet and it just died. It just basically hung up. And so I 222 00:11:35,820 --> 00:11:38,520 rebooted it after like, you know, I've had to think for two 223 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,730 or three weeks, and I rebooted and I'm thinking, This is it, I 224 00:11:41,730 --> 00:11:45,150 have to reboot the machine once every three weeks. And 225 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,090 it's like, I mean, it's like an etch a sketch, you just kind of 226 00:11:48,090 --> 00:11:51,120 shake the Mac around and started up again. And it works magic 227 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:51,780 thinking you 228 00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:54,750 know, and people are complaining about this. I'm a Windows user 229 00:11:54,750 --> 00:11:58,710 we're rebooting every couple of days if we're lucky. And these 230 00:11:58,710 --> 00:12:01,470 guys are moaning about it I'm thinking you guys haven't got a 231 00:12:01,470 --> 00:12:01,950 clue 232 00:12:01,980 --> 00:12:05,400 I gotta tell you man ever since I went back to the Mac I'm so 233 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,750 happy with my with my work experience just doing everything 234 00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:13,350 is just so much nicer and I still I still till now I lug 235 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:16,200 along the VAIO laptop because it has been is basically now just 236 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,750 the studio. Right because the God cast blaster running which 237 00:12:18,750 --> 00:12:23,580 only runs under Windows and you know, and I gotta tell you, I've 238 00:12:23,580 --> 00:12:26,250 been on windows for a year and a half and I'm back to the Mac and 239 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,400 Damn, fuck you Steve Jobs you got it right 240 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,810 well, you know, I don't have a problem with either the systems 241 00:12:33,810 --> 00:12:36,930 I liked I liked the Mac I liked the PC I mean I have issues with 242 00:12:36,990 --> 00:12:40,950 with Apple as a company and but you know, the fact that it is a 243 00:12:40,950 --> 00:12:43,440 better system, I'm not going to deny it and when people I've 244 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,630 said this before and I'll say it again if people are asking me 245 00:12:45,630 --> 00:12:49,650 what to get you know, I tell them to get a Mac they get a Mac 246 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:52,170 laptop or get an iMac or something like that because 247 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,640 because they're not going to be calling me exactly but if I you 248 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,490 know I tell people to go get loaded up PC with a dual with a 249 00:12:59,670 --> 00:13:03,930 you know, a dual core Tri core whatever they you know, some 250 00:13:03,930 --> 00:13:06,960 fancy machine was making a lot of noise. It's got big fans in 251 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,900 it and a really fancy Yeah, it's probably a great machine for 252 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:12,570 playing games and things like that. But I don't want to get 253 00:13:12,570 --> 00:13:15,570 the phone call about you know, the crazy crashing or whatever I 254 00:13:15,570 --> 00:13:17,520 just too many too many too much going on. 255 00:13:17,550 --> 00:13:21,270 I hate that. I really hate it. It's gone away from me now a 256 00:13:21,270 --> 00:13:24,810 little bit but man for a while there. I was definitely. You'll 257 00:13:24,810 --> 00:13:28,080 probably about five years ago, when there was a hole maybe 258 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,230 around the time XP came out, I guess I don't know. But man, I 259 00:13:31,230 --> 00:13:33,870 was definitely the support guy for my family. Oh 260 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,470 yeah, no, it's terrible. In fact, yeah, no, it's yeah, just 261 00:13:40,470 --> 00:13:43,500 it's to be avoided. I mean, especially if you've done it for 262 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:45,840 years and years and years, which, I mean, it was okay in 263 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,930 the early days of computing, you know, 20 years ago because it 264 00:13:48,930 --> 00:13:52,200 was kind of cool to help people out and get them going. But now 265 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,470 it's just tedious and there's no reason for it. You know, did and 266 00:13:55,470 --> 00:13:58,800 it doesn't Mac doesn't? I don't think a max a good deal by 267 00:13:58,830 --> 00:14:01,980 necessarily. I mean, I was when like Sargon was pretty much the 268 00:14:01,980 --> 00:14:04,290 same price. It's a little more expensive, but not that much 269 00:14:04,290 --> 00:14:06,090 more expensive that you shouldn't get one. 270 00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:10,200 Yeah, for the lack of hassle. Did you switching gears Did you 271 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,490 watch the Republican debate? 272 00:14:12,450 --> 00:14:15,570 I only saw bits and pieces of it. And I'm actually surprised 273 00:14:15,570 --> 00:14:18,360 that the Republicans would put up with such a cornball. I mean 274 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,810 when you have snow men asking your questions and guys as 275 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,770 avatars of Krusty the Clown, and whatever else is going on. And 276 00:14:25,770 --> 00:14:28,320 these guys are standing up there seriously answering these 277 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:29,190 questions. And 278 00:14:29,190 --> 00:14:31,920 did you did you see that Anderson Cooper issued an 279 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,690 apology? The day after the debates because there were like 280 00:14:36,690 --> 00:14:41,100 two shills in the audience. One guy who sits on like three 281 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:43,620 boards with Hillary Clinton or something, something like that, 282 00:14:43,620 --> 00:14:44,850 or, you know, on a border 283 00:14:44,850 --> 00:14:47,370 the whole thing was a disaster. It was it was laughable. They 284 00:14:47,370 --> 00:14:50,190 were Republicans. They shouldn't be ashamed of themselves for 285 00:14:50,190 --> 00:14:52,830 putting up with it. They should have walked out Yeah, 286 00:14:52,860 --> 00:14:56,700 I agree. It was really bad and just, you know, CNN just making 287 00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:59,010 a show. I like it. It's entertaining. But you know, what 288 00:14:59,010 --> 00:15:01,230 the hell does that have to do with With a real debate, you 289 00:15:01,230 --> 00:15:03,900 know, high, it's just 290 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,070 now it was I, you know, I would really if I was any any of the 291 00:15:08,070 --> 00:15:10,590 candidates, I would rethink going to any of these things 292 00:15:10,740 --> 00:15:12,840 when it's set up as a joke, 293 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:17,760 ya know, I I tend to agree. And also I thought, my man Ron Paul 294 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,970 didn't do a great job. It wasn't the forum really, it was 295 00:15:20,970 --> 00:15:24,810 infantile almost predict what everyone was going to say. And 296 00:15:24,810 --> 00:15:27,480 there's a little bit you know, and then all the all the news I 297 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,440 read was, wow, fireworks and, you know, Giuliani and Romney, 298 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,690 and they're going at each other's throats and like, wasn't 299 00:15:33,690 --> 00:15:36,870 all that it was dumb, was just dumb. It was 300 00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:42,930 dumb about it. That summarises it. So I noticed that the 301 00:15:42,930 --> 00:15:46,410 hurricane score came in finally, you know, hurricane season just 302 00:15:46,410 --> 00:15:48,150 ended. In the United States, 303 00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:51,210 it must have been lower than the cholera. Here's 304 00:15:51,210 --> 00:15:54,750 what I got, you know, in 2005, when everyone's really jacked up 305 00:15:54,750 --> 00:15:58,230 about global warming, there was these 26 hurricanes hit the US. 306 00:15:58,650 --> 00:16:00,810 And so everybody's thinking, you know, they're all the whole 307 00:16:00,810 --> 00:16:03,840 climate change and all this other folks run for the hills 308 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:06,900 run for the hills. So they So Colorado State there, they were 309 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:10,500 one of these, you know, these, all these great meteorologist 310 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:14,580 area, you know, arenas or I don't know what they are, but 311 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:16,740 these schools that have a lot of meteorologists in them, and 312 00:16:16,740 --> 00:16:19,080 they're big shots, meteorologists out of state 313 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,750 predicted 17, we're going to hit this year, it's going to be 314 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:23,730 horrible, and it's getting worse and worse and worse, because of 315 00:16:23,730 --> 00:16:26,010 global warming. One Yeah, I 316 00:16:26,010 --> 00:16:28,830 was gonna say, I can't think of more than one, no one 317 00:16:28,830 --> 00:16:31,350 hit the state. So there's a few that hit, you know, Central 318 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:34,050 America, but even then, it wasn't that many. So it was a 319 00:16:34,050 --> 00:16:38,580 dud. So, so I'm thinking that these, you know, climatologists 320 00:16:38,580 --> 00:16:41,760 and all these meteorologists, these guys don't know anything. 321 00:16:41,790 --> 00:16:44,880 And we're still waiting for the huge superstorm that is supposed 322 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,970 to hit the west coast of continental continental Europe 323 00:16:47,970 --> 00:16:51,510 and the east coast of the UK. These two know this. There's one 324 00:16:51,510 --> 00:16:54,750 guy in the UK and a couple different meteorologists, you 325 00:16:54,750 --> 00:16:58,440 know, basically TV weatherman, in continental Europe had been 326 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,010 predicting this for weeks, they evacuated 1000s of people two 327 00:17:02,010 --> 00:17:05,790 weeks ago, nothing happened. Now they're talking about this huge 328 00:17:05,790 --> 00:17:08,970 depression. You know, there was a famous instance in the UK. 329 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,990 Maybe I don't know, I think maybe nine or 10 years ago, 330 00:17:13,290 --> 00:17:15,930 where a TV weatherman God, I wish I knew his name because the 331 00:17:15,930 --> 00:17:19,140 Brits would know exactly what I'm talking about. He got a call 332 00:17:19,140 --> 00:17:22,260 just before he went on the air from this woman. And he relayed 333 00:17:22,260 --> 00:17:24,090 the story on the air. He said, You know, he was given the 334 00:17:24,090 --> 00:17:26,400 weather forecast. He's saying, by the way, just got a call from 335 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,940 this woman who said there's a there's a twister coming 336 00:17:29,940 --> 00:17:33,600 through. Coming through Wales or whatever it was. He says, I can 337 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,750 assure you don't have to worry about that, like 18 dead because 338 00:17:36,750 --> 00:17:39,210 of this fucking twist that went through Wales and we've never 339 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,150 had the guy disappeared from the face of the planet. Isn't he has 340 00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:43,980 no career. He's no life. He's gone. 341 00:17:45,450 --> 00:17:47,940 A Twister and Wales. Wow. Yeah, I'm 342 00:17:47,940 --> 00:17:51,750 sure it wasn't Wales. But you know, it was it was just any 343 00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:54,870 hurricane or what that what's up with that? Well, it's a tornado. 344 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:56,700 We're not in Kansas anymore. Toto. 345 00:17:57,510 --> 00:18:00,210 So I didn't know anything about this evacuation thing. 346 00:18:00,630 --> 00:18:05,760 Yeah, I think 10,000 people were evacuated. They had stadium set 347 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,580 up and everything and it just didn't happen. Yeah, just the 348 00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:11,250 rain a little bit. But they've been looking at us. 349 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:14,730 They've been looking at a soccer game and the stadium and imagine 350 00:18:14,730 --> 00:18:16,650 have to do something to assuage. Exactly. 351 00:18:17,940 --> 00:18:24,870 So yeah, it's, you know, I read the Dutch Google News. Every 352 00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:29,580 day, I read the US Google News. I read the UK, Google News. And 353 00:18:29,580 --> 00:18:32,250 then the Dutch Google News, which really gives me a flavour 354 00:18:32,250 --> 00:18:34,710 of Europe. And there's a lot of stuff that that we just don't 355 00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:36,690 know about over here. There really 356 00:18:37,350 --> 00:18:40,290 are news coverage sucks. We I mean, it's weird, like the one 357 00:18:40,290 --> 00:18:42,600 of the worst. And of course, especially we can read it in a 358 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,360 foreign language and you read, it's funny for anyone out there 359 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:48,210 who doesn't know Adam, you know, he roams around the office at 360 00:18:48,210 --> 00:18:51,090 pod show. I don't know why, who he's talking to. But he's 361 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:53,880 probably his wife. Yeah, but he's got somebody on the other 362 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,280 end and he's speaking Dutch 363 00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:58,320 I tongs I'm speaking in tongues 364 00:18:58,890 --> 00:19:03,750 is rattling prattling away in some some foreign language that 365 00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:05,190 I can't quite make out. 366 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:08,490 And that's usually I take those calls in the stairwell as you 367 00:19:08,490 --> 00:19:11,820 know, of course, that's my real office. But then you know, I'm 368 00:19:11,820 --> 00:19:14,730 talking to 50 into my wife for 1520 minutes and then you know, 369 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,580 you know how women can be and I said, Honey, I gotta hang up and 370 00:19:17,580 --> 00:19:20,280 she's and yeah, okay, and oh, let me just talk about this. And 371 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,590 then so I start making coffee in the hallway and I started 372 00:19:22,590 --> 00:19:25,470 walking towards my office hoping that the call will end just 373 00:19:25,470 --> 00:19:27,810 before I walk into the meeting so that's what that's about 374 00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:35,520 well it's it's actually adds a kind of a continental quality to 375 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,260 the whole place. Well, dude, 376 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:40,230 have you seen our office? I mean, it's like Tower of Babel 377 00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:44,280 in there man. We've got guys with the turbans we've got 378 00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:48,600 people with the you know, God knows from what planet they came 379 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,090 from, we've got quite an international crowd. 380 00:19:52,020 --> 00:19:57,030 Yeah, but they're not speaking Dutch. Okay, so why the you 381 00:19:57,030 --> 00:19:59,550 know, that guy with the, you know, that Korean that was 382 00:19:59,550 --> 00:20:01,200 supposed to killed by a cell phone. 383 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:04,620 Yeah, I heard about that. I think I saw a post on on your 384 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:07,590 blog about that, that. Yeah, well, it turns out to be a hoax. 385 00:20:07,620 --> 00:20:09,840 I was just gonna say it didn't look like an implosion it looked 386 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,460 like something might have melted 387 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:15,629 that we had on the blog was just a generic picture of a gel 388 00:20:15,629 --> 00:20:18,989 generic picture. Okay. But apparently somebody had murdered 389 00:20:18,989 --> 00:20:23,579 that guy. Oh, no. And then they planted the cell phone in some 390 00:20:23,579 --> 00:20:26,249 way that make it look as though the cell phone might have killed 391 00:20:26,249 --> 00:20:29,339 him. And what was interesting to me is that the media, nobody 392 00:20:29,339 --> 00:20:32,579 questioned the story because I think, to be honest about it, 393 00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:36,569 that everybody, especially people in the media, are, they 394 00:20:36,569 --> 00:20:40,019 have such a deep seated hatred of cell phones and cell phone 395 00:20:40,019 --> 00:20:42,269 users and the fact that they're annoying as they're walking 396 00:20:42,269 --> 00:20:45,089 around. They were hoping it would kill it killed the guy. 397 00:20:47,339 --> 00:20:52,859 Oh, well. I think I mentioned on my show the that what people 398 00:20:52,859 --> 00:20:56,039 really want to see is some guys, cell phone blow up was holding 399 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:57,659 it up to his ear, you know, 400 00:20:57,660 --> 00:21:01,920 on source code. Remember, Nokia had to recall hundreds of 1000s 401 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,810 of batteries, maybe millions of batteries. Remember that. So 402 00:21:06,810 --> 00:21:10,050 probably two months before that. Someone called in and went 403 00:21:10,050 --> 00:21:13,290 through this whole story about how his girlfriend woke up in 404 00:21:13,290 --> 00:21:16,110 the middle of the night and the phone had been charging and the 405 00:21:16,110 --> 00:21:19,680 battery exploded out of it. And flu shot straight across the 406 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,020 room and burned a hole in the rug. And she didn't know what's 407 00:21:22,020 --> 00:21:25,590 going on. It was all backstory to it. And until you know, I 408 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:30,210 hooked him up with Nokia. And lo and behold the the exact battery 409 00:21:30,210 --> 00:21:33,360 type that was the exploding kind was the one in this guy's phone. 410 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:37,380 So hopefully we contribute a little bit to, to them doing 411 00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:40,290 that recall, but it was it was I thought it was pretty amazing. 412 00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:41,220 Huh? 413 00:21:41,820 --> 00:21:45,630 So you were going to talk to about the Yeah, it was amazing. 414 00:21:45,810 --> 00:21:50,190 You were going to talk about I'm sorry, better reaction to your 415 00:21:50,190 --> 00:21:50,610 expense. 416 00:21:50,670 --> 00:21:51,420 I'm tired. 417 00:21:52,050 --> 00:21:54,510 You are tired. Yeah. And you got to spend another week that's 418 00:21:54,510 --> 00:21:58,170 terrible. So because I know you're trying to leave to get 419 00:21:58,170 --> 00:21:58,830 back to, 420 00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:02,910 to my my girls, man. And it's like cold here. It's 421 00:22:02,910 --> 00:22:05,160 kind of really cold over the last couple of years. No 422 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,740 better in the UK. But at least there we have, you know, like 423 00:22:07,890 --> 00:22:10,740 coal fire and a nice fire. You know, I 424 00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:13,110 talking about coal fire. You know, I used to work for the Air 425 00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:15,090 Pollution Control District and I'm still a lot of people don't 426 00:22:15,090 --> 00:22:16,800 realise I'm an air pollution expert. 427 00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:20,100 Among amongst many talents, Mr. 428 00:22:20,220 --> 00:22:23,400 Yeah. But it happens. You build them up as you get to become 429 00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:29,070 older. So anyway. So one of the things I have some Yes, that's, 430 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:33,810 that's cool. Sorry, I do have some sort of sick pleasure in 431 00:22:33,930 --> 00:22:37,980 cranking up a coal fire every once in a while. Yeah. I love 432 00:22:37,980 --> 00:22:40,770 because in California, people don't even know what coal looks 433 00:22:40,770 --> 00:22:44,940 like. And, and I happen to have one of those, you know, the coal 434 00:22:44,940 --> 00:22:47,250 holder, if you're gonna put a coal fire in your fireplace, you 435 00:22:47,250 --> 00:22:50,100 need like this special kind of a basket. Yeah, he's loaded up 436 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:52,920 with coal. And then when you get the thing cranked up into and I 437 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,280 kind of fell in love with coal fires when I was in England 438 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,430 about 20 years ago, and I was out in the middle of nowhere at 439 00:22:59,430 --> 00:23:04,050 some meetings, in some giant one of these giant inns that had a 440 00:23:04,050 --> 00:23:06,690 bunch of rice in the room. You had one of those problems? Well, 441 00:23:06,690 --> 00:23:09,390 actually, no, this was it was like a big hall with about five 442 00:23:09,390 --> 00:23:12,240 fireplaces all lined up that each of them had a coal fire 443 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:18,480 going. And coal fires are absolutely fantastic. Because 444 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,670 they've stuffed for one thing once you get a coal fire going 445 00:23:20,670 --> 00:23:23,640 people, you know, in the US in the west coast, the East Coast, 446 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,160 people know about this, they hate this stuff. But the West 447 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,040 Coast, they don't they don't understand any of it. And the 448 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,820 thing is, it's a fascinating product, because coal is a rock 449 00:23:32,820 --> 00:23:38,010 that burns. Right. And so once you get it going, it burns for 450 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,330 ever. Yeah, it just glows. And you don't have to like have a, 451 00:23:42,660 --> 00:23:44,430 you don't have to keep tending it and just 452 00:23:44,610 --> 00:23:47,250 throw logs on the fire. You don't have to do any of that 453 00:23:47,250 --> 00:23:50,010 yet. And it goes out a little bit after a couple hours and 454 00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:52,440 just rake it up. And there it is, it's back. 455 00:23:52,770 --> 00:23:55,620 And actually for us, they're really super high quality coal, 456 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,400 which we can get out here. You don't even have to do that. It 457 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,460 just is it'll go free on overnight and then in the 458 00:24:02,460 --> 00:24:05,160 morning, it'll still be going and you can throw some new coal 459 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,040 on there and get it cranked up again. And it gives off a really 460 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,030 nice radiant heat. It has a flame that's that's very pretty. 461 00:24:12,510 --> 00:24:16,650 It gives off a beautiful radiant heat. It's very hot. And but it 462 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,880 gives off a stink. It's not a bad smell. To me. 463 00:24:20,910 --> 00:24:22,110 It's a cosy smell. 464 00:24:22,380 --> 00:24:25,560 It's a funny smell and but I know for a fact that I haven't 465 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,780 done it for a while because the guys that I get the coal from 466 00:24:27,780 --> 00:24:30,330 they stopped bringing it in. I'm going to try to get some more 467 00:24:30,330 --> 00:24:33,150 but I know that for a fact when I cranked up in the 468 00:24:33,150 --> 00:24:36,630 neighbourhood here that because I would draw you know go 469 00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:39,510 someplace and come driving back you could smell the coal smell 470 00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:43,680 in the area and I know for a fact nobody in the entire within 471 00:24:43,710 --> 00:24:47,730 you know 10 miles of the House who was maybe smelling it knew 472 00:24:47,730 --> 00:24:51,720 what it was. There's no way it's just an alien aroma to 473 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,350 California 474 00:24:52,350 --> 00:24:55,110 okay mister pollution expert is this not horrible? 475 00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:59,580 Well, you know the amount of the actual amount of particulate 476 00:24:59,580 --> 00:25:03,270 which is real The The problem here is with low sulphur coal is 477 00:25:03,270 --> 00:25:05,820 not really much of a problem. And the kind of coal that you 478 00:25:05,820 --> 00:25:09,990 burn in fireplaces casually for decorative purposes is extremely 479 00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:13,680 low sulphur. So it's not harmful. It's burning wood is 480 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,920 probably worse to be honest about it, in terms of what it 481 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:23,160 puts into the air. Well, I like it. Anyway, that's my story, and 482 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,690 I'm sticking to it. But it's really a great product. For me. 483 00:25:27,690 --> 00:25:28,710 It's just amazing. 484 00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:30,869 What are we not spoken about? 485 00:25:31,380 --> 00:25:32,490 The comic book guy? 486 00:25:34,410 --> 00:25:36,780 What we're gonna do is gonna give you the backstory on that. 487 00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:39,240 Yeah, I don't know anything. You said, we're going to talk about 488 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,500 it on the show? Well, 489 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,970 I gotta be careful, because if I say it wrong, then he'll get 490 00:25:44,970 --> 00:25:50,550 really upset. Well, who is he? Comic Strip blogger. Okay, his 491 00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:53,190 name is Jay said something or other. I don't remember his real 492 00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:53,520 name. 493 00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:57,840 But he's a fan of yours, or what's well, he latched on to 494 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,850 the daily source code. Couple of years ago, and he started in the 495 00:26:02,850 --> 00:26:05,790 comments, and he would just write these outrageous things. 496 00:26:05,790 --> 00:26:09,270 You know, he really, as we would say, in Holland, his heart was 497 00:26:09,270 --> 00:26:13,590 on his tongue. But you know, and he's he's also coincidentally 498 00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:16,170 the guy that started this whole fucking Adam curry business, 499 00:26:16,410 --> 00:26:19,740 because that's literally how he talks, you know. And, and, and 500 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,190 it was just really interesting to me. And I Googled him. And I 501 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:30,840 found out that, you know, he had worked at Nokia. And I guess he, 502 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:34,530 he had a blog, and he was basically posting on the blog, 503 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,760 you know, about shit that sucked within the company. That's, I'm 504 00:26:38,790 --> 00:26:42,510 paraphrasing, I'm sure as to what it exactly was. And so he 505 00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:44,940 got fired. And I don't know, some say he got kicked out of 506 00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:45,480 Finland. 507 00:26:47,550 --> 00:26:49,590 get kicked out of Finland, you don't want to 508 00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:55,320 cross Naki as path man, they are Finland, and, and out of anger 509 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,320 and spite. But Maybe also because he felt there was more 510 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,710 future in the platform. He became a huge proponent of 511 00:27:01,740 --> 00:27:06,720 Windows Mobile. And he started blogging and podcasting. He'd go 512 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,660 around to these MVP events, which I believe he's been banned 513 00:27:09,660 --> 00:27:12,930 from now. And he would he would ask really straightforward 514 00:27:12,930 --> 00:27:15,390 questions actually, journalistically. Great 515 00:27:15,390 --> 00:27:19,350 questions. But his approach, of course, was very brash. And you 516 00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:22,110 know, he'd be the equivalent of going up to, I saw a piece of 517 00:27:22,110 --> 00:27:27,030 video done in the Apple UK store, where the journalist went 518 00:27:27,030 --> 00:27:30,480 up to Phil Schiller and said, so, you know, is this going to 519 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,610 be a problem with anti competitive laws in Europe, 520 00:27:32,610 --> 00:27:34,950 where you basically have to buy something to get something else? 521 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:38,070 Are you tying the phone to the, to the network, and then 522 00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:41,160 immediately the PR people jump in and Schiller backs off? And 523 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,950 you know, that it's that kind of question straight to the point, 524 00:27:44,250 --> 00:27:47,130 and good stuff. Exactly. Good stuff. And it freaks him out. 525 00:27:47,130 --> 00:27:49,830 And I think he his appearance and the way he speaks, he has 526 00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:54,300 his Polish German accent and he's just the vocabulary. Yeah. 527 00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:58,590 So I got really interested in the guy. And, and that, you 528 00:27:58,590 --> 00:28:00,900 know, I think Jeff Smith made a jingle for him, you know, and 529 00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:03,450 then he started calling in and, and he knows a lot of shit, 530 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,480 particularly about the European Union. And so, you know, he give 531 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,500 reports on that. 532 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,170 And what like, what, what, give us some examples. 533 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,020 An example like a pro. Is 534 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:14,430 he an EU basher? 535 00:28:14,459 --> 00:28:17,609 No, no, no, he really believes in the EU. But he points yeah, 536 00:28:17,609 --> 00:28:21,029 many EU basher. Now he points out all of the all of the things 537 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:23,849 that are wrong and that are messed up. And you know, he's 538 00:28:23,849 --> 00:28:26,939 another guy that gets stopped going into another country, and 539 00:28:26,939 --> 00:28:29,429 then he'll record it. And you'll say, Why do I have to show 540 00:28:29,429 --> 00:28:34,109 passport? Am I not a US citizen? Which, of course is a great way 541 00:28:34,109 --> 00:28:38,879 not to get through passport control. Yeah, that works. But 542 00:28:38,879 --> 00:28:42,269 he's no, he's a beautiful guy. And then he one time he came, 543 00:28:42,299 --> 00:28:44,759 you know, we set up a date, after years, we would meet at 544 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:47,999 the UK office. And this video was on YouTube. And I think on 545 00:28:47,999 --> 00:28:52,229 his site, comic strip, blog.com he interviewed me about my 546 00:28:52,229 --> 00:28:56,009 mobile devices. And it was so funny, because then he gave me a 547 00:28:56,009 --> 00:29:00,119 PowerPoint pitch about what he wanted to do to work for pod 548 00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:02,879 show, you know, like a consultant type role. And it was 549 00:29:02,879 --> 00:29:05,549 so funny. It was the only pitch I've ever received in my life 550 00:29:05,549 --> 00:29:08,819 that literally ended with a slide that says, PS Fuck you, 551 00:29:08,819 --> 00:29:14,339 Adam. Oh, man, this is so beautiful. But he's been. 552 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,070 He's been he's the one who invented that phrase. I know 553 00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:18,420 you'd like to use? 554 00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:23,610 Yes, yeah. So people start. It's comic strip blogger, you know, 555 00:29:23,610 --> 00:29:26,580 and everyone knows him that way. And everyone on the show, listen 556 00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:29,280 to the show has become accustomed to that. And, and 557 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,580 what I noticed is, I think I said once is this is my mistake. 558 00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:34,860 I said, Hey, everyone should end their comments that way. That's 559 00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:37,440 pretty cool. And then of course, everyone starts doing it. But 560 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,130 psychologically, it's really interesting, because the quality 561 00:29:41,130 --> 00:29:43,890 of the comments has gone up, because people are really 562 00:29:43,890 --> 00:29:46,050 concentrating because they know what the end they're gonna have 563 00:29:46,050 --> 00:29:50,220 this big payoff. And, and the comments are good at you know, 564 00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:52,980 they're short the sussing people don't ramble on because they 565 00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:55,860 know you know, they gotta get to the point to get that bit in and 566 00:29:55,890 --> 00:29:57,660 it's so it's it's been fabulous for me. 567 00:30:00,810 --> 00:30:03,570 Yeah, apparently you like it? Yeah, I think you like being 568 00:30:03,570 --> 00:30:04,230 cussed out. 569 00:30:04,620 --> 00:30:07,350 You should. You should look this guy up though, because he has a 570 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,280 pretty interesting history and he's definitely one of us when 571 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,480 it comes to questioning authority, and the man, he's an 572 00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:16,350 interesting guy. 573 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:19,230 Yeah, it sounds like I'm gonna have to I will check him out. 574 00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:22,380 Now one other thing before we finish the show today, I wanted 575 00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:24,600 to mention which we got a letter from somebody 576 00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:29,850 who a letter, not an email, but an actual letter. I'm sorry. I 577 00:30:29,850 --> 00:30:33,270 misspoke. Okay. I was kind of excited there for a minute. 578 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,660 Yeah, well, it I don't think I don't think I've gotten a letter 579 00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:40,980 for God knows how long. Anyway, this guy wrote in talking about 580 00:30:41,010 --> 00:30:43,260 we talked a little bit about this last week or the week 581 00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:47,010 before about psycho or retro psychokinesis. Yeah, right. This 582 00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:49,620 is the guy who moved to Switzerland. I did look into it 583 00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:51,360 just a little bit, but not John 584 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:57,990 Walker. Right. John Walker's is a it get character. Anyway, he's 585 00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:59,760 up in the mountains, or somewhere I know where he is. 586 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,330 He's somewhere buried somewhere in Switzerland. Anyway, the 587 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,490 we've mentioned. So this guy went and looked at this. And I 588 00:31:05,490 --> 00:31:07,470 didn't even realise there were a couple of these experiments. I 589 00:31:07,470 --> 00:31:09,750 didn't know they were on there. And I'm glad he sent me this 590 00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:14,160 note. Because there's an experiment you can do with a 591 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,410 random number generator, that theoret or that at some level, 592 00:31:19,410 --> 00:31:23,640 you can, by thinking about it can affect the outcome, 593 00:31:23,790 --> 00:31:26,250 right. And the idea of that, because I did see that they have 594 00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:28,980 these like Java applets. And you can send that to someone and 595 00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:32,100 then they can generate a number randomly and then, but you can 596 00:31:32,970 --> 00:31:35,430 swing back and forth. Now let me just reach out with this guy 597 00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:38,490 says not too long. So Greg Hampton, says, John, I 598 00:31:38,490 --> 00:31:41,190 discovered former lab blah, blah, blah experiments a few 599 00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:43,500 years ago and tried some of the experience but never got any 600 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:45,780 statistically significant results. One day, a couple of 601 00:31:45,780 --> 00:31:48,960 years ago, I decided to have my four year old grandson, try the 602 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,290 pendulum experiment. And people out there want to check this 603 00:31:52,290 --> 00:31:59,460 out, you can go to form the lab, which is www fourmilab.ch. And 604 00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:01,800 then you could dig around and you'll find these experiments. 605 00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:06,300 Anyway, he says, I decided to have my four year old grandson 606 00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:09,210 try the pendulum experiment. And he had the thing, hey, banging 607 00:32:09,210 --> 00:32:12,420 up against one side like crazy. And his results are off the 608 00:32:12,420 --> 00:32:15,150 charts. I just stood there in shock watching. Maybe it's all a 609 00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:18,390 bunch of hooey. And his performance was some kind of 610 00:32:18,390 --> 00:32:21,000 weird coincidence, but I'll never forget how exciting it was 611 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,310 to watch. You should try a couple of these pairs. I tried 612 00:32:23,310 --> 00:32:26,820 the pendulum one myself, and I have it a sense that something 613 00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:27,180 would change. 614 00:32:27,180 --> 00:32:29,910 How does it work? What is the pendulum experiment? Exactly? 615 00:32:29,910 --> 00:32:33,030 The pendulum experiment is a random number generator that 616 00:32:33,060 --> 00:32:36,840 rocks a pendulum back and forth in some very standardised way. 617 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,610 And supposedly because of retro psychokinesis. And I have to 618 00:32:41,610 --> 00:32:44,550 tell everybody out there, I think a lot of this is malarkey. 619 00:32:44,550 --> 00:32:48,210 But there are some people that can go to a crap table. And when 620 00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:50,250 and there's a lot of random numbers in the world, the way 621 00:32:50,250 --> 00:32:53,340 the world works is a random number generator, and then a lot 622 00:32:53,340 --> 00:32:57,930 of different ways. And, you know, I don't know, I just I'm 623 00:32:57,930 --> 00:33:01,200 not buying into this, but I think it's interesting, and 624 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,600 people should check it out. But anyway, you can get this thing 625 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,460 to move around in ways that it shouldn't be moving, if you 626 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,400 concentrate in a funny kind of way. So you 627 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,070 do that you concentrate, and then it happens before your very 628 00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:14,640 eyes, 629 00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:18,930 you have to the way, the way I read it and the way it seems to 630 00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:22,110 maybe work. Although it could all be a coincidence, like he 631 00:33:22,110 --> 00:33:26,190 says is that you have to imagine the thing doing something before 632 00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:29,160 it actually happens. In other words, you're not trying to make 633 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,130 it move. You don't say Oh, move moving over, like the old guy 634 00:33:32,130 --> 00:33:35,970 was going, Whoa, make the paper lift, I'm going to levitate that 635 00:33:35,970 --> 00:33:38,430 kind of thing. Now. It's something else, you have to have 636 00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:40,470 some other way of doing it. 637 00:33:40,860 --> 00:33:44,130 The Kinesis part that's that's the muscle you have to train. 638 00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:48,390 But it's like you don't pay real. You don't. At least the 639 00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:51,900 way it seems to me is you don't really pay close attention to 640 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:55,800 it. It just almost a background task and you know, people get 641 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,750 you ought to check it out and see what they think. I mean, I 642 00:33:57,750 --> 00:34:01,620 think it's generally speaking malarkey and any effects that I 643 00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:05,430 had. But John isn't, isn't this the same thing as you know, the 644 00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:08,610 old adages of people saying, you know, if you act successful, you 645 00:34:08,610 --> 00:34:11,970 will be successful? And you know, isn't it that type of 646 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,750 behaviour? 647 00:34:12,930 --> 00:34:16,020 See, I'm not I'm going to argue against that, because my feeling 648 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:18,930 about that sort of thing, which is, I believe that's true to a 649 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,830 large extent. But that's the I think there's a milieu aspect to 650 00:34:22,830 --> 00:34:25,650 that. In other words, if you hang out with a certain class of 651 00:34:25,650 --> 00:34:32,340 people, you will develop kinds of body language and nonverbal 652 00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:35,670 communication skills you don't even know you have and then you 653 00:34:35,670 --> 00:34:38,700 will be become part of that group. You know, swimming with 654 00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:42,030 the sharks is part of that. And so if you're, you know, 655 00:34:42,030 --> 00:34:44,460 depending I'd like you were criticising me for holding my 656 00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:48,720 fork in this peculiar way. The couple weeks have 657 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:51,510 I had an effect on you or have you become part of my group now 658 00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:54,690 of the people who hold the fork properly? 659 00:34:54,810 --> 00:34:58,470 Yeah, the feet group from Holland the 660 00:34:58,860 --> 00:35:02,550 post group That's No, no, no, that's Emily Post, I know how to 661 00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:04,650 hold my fork, you hold it like a baboon. 662 00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:11,310 Anyway, so the point is, there's, you know, there's 663 00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:14,700 milieu communication that takes place. And I think a lot of it 664 00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:16,950 has to do with what you're describing is that and I don't 665 00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:20,130 think that has anything to do with retro psychokinesis, where 666 00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:23,730 you can go supposedly, or theoretically, or maybe to a 667 00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:26,190 craps table in Vegas, and then 668 00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:29,400 and imagine that it's going to hit number 36. Or I'm sorry, 669 00:35:29,550 --> 00:35:33,240 number two, and you end up in the future, and then it actually 670 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:34,320 happens. Yeah, which 671 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:40,320 would be craps. But anyway, so. So anyway, you so that people 672 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,620 should just look at it, but but, you know, Walker's got as his 673 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:47,880 site has always been kind of interesting, because he's a 674 00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:53,340 acquisitive person. He's, he's likes to look into things and 675 00:35:53,370 --> 00:35:56,430 and I think he's sent my board. You know, I sent him a couple of 676 00:35:56,430 --> 00:35:59,160 notes once he's actually sent me a nasty note, when I accused him 677 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,130 of leaving the country to avoid taxes, he sent me this nasty 678 00:36:02,130 --> 00:36:05,880 note. And, you know, I sent him an apology. And then but you 679 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,830 know, and then I sent him something else once in a cabin 680 00:36:07,830 --> 00:36:09,720 and he stopped communicating with me. So he's, he's, you 681 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:12,750 know, I don't think he's, like, necessarily receptive to like 682 00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:15,120 normal people. That guy's worth a fortune, but 683 00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:18,720 he's probably having a good time when I was 684 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:21,330 in. I was in Switzerland a few times and I was gonna say, let 685 00:36:21,330 --> 00:36:24,300 me stop buying and going out. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Maybe 686 00:36:24,330 --> 00:36:26,130 people said you don't want to hang out with it. It 687 00:36:26,130 --> 00:36:30,870 looks like those that research he did into retros what does it 688 00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:34,080 retro psycho psychokinesis looks like he stopped doing that a 689 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,060 couple of years ago. I mean, all the stuff is still there, but 690 00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:37,950 doesn't look like there's any new entries. 691 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,780 Yeah, yeah, I noticed that. I don't know if he gave up on it. 692 00:36:43,110 --> 00:36:46,260 All right. So now I have to do I do I download this pendulum 693 00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:46,950 thing is that 694 00:36:46,980 --> 00:36:49,200 well, no, no, it's it's a it's a Java app. It runs on the 695 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,470 machine. Yeah. Okay, cool. Run it, you know, run it on a 696 00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:55,830 machine that's got some some power. Because it'll spill the 697 00:36:55,830 --> 00:37:02,160 suck your brain better will run on my Mac. In my Mac runs Java 698 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,000 apps. Sure. Should. It's mostly Java. It's like a Javascript 699 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,650 app. It's not like, I think 700 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,130 so. I guess I'm gonna kind of spend the weekend doing some 701 00:37:11,370 --> 00:37:12,840 retro psychokinesis 702 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,500 Yeah, well, the one to do is to stop it. You can actually stop 703 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:18,390 the pendulum if you try hard enough. 704 00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:22,080 But could you imagine what can I do with that power? Let's say 705 00:37:22,110 --> 00:37:24,600 let's say because you know, I'm like, yeah, no, will you wait a 706 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,420 minute? Wait a minute, I'm pretty good. It's I know I'm a 707 00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:31,650 believer and stuff like this. So let's say I'm able to do it if I 708 00:37:31,650 --> 00:37:35,430 can do this pendulum thing by like Monday. We're so going to 709 00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:40,230 fucking Vegas. We are so going we're out of here Monday night 710 00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:43,050 we're in Vegas. Just got to be back Tuesday morning for a 711 00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:44,250 meeting otherwise it's cool. 712 00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:47,700 Yeah, in Vegas back Bekins for this kind of thing. You know, I 713 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:51,000 believe you know, I actually win a little bit not a lot. I don't 714 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,930 think anyone can, but I do quite well on video poker machines for 715 00:37:54,930 --> 00:37:57,750 two there's two. There's Well there's two reasons one I know 716 00:37:57,750 --> 00:38:00,240 which poker machines to look for. People don't realise that 717 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,970 all those poker machines and some of them playing the exact 718 00:38:02,970 --> 00:38:06,780 same game have totally different payouts and you want to look for 719 00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:09,030 one specific payout I can't remember the exact number I 720 00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:11,010 always look it up before I go for some reason but anyway you 721 00:38:11,010 --> 00:38:13,410 can if you go on the internet if you go on the internet look at 722 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,200 you know best payout video poker machine they'll tell you the 723 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,050 ones to look for and you just go you find those because the other 724 00:38:19,050 --> 00:38:22,290 ones nickel and dimed to death just enough so you can't quite 725 00:38:22,290 --> 00:38:22,740 when 726 00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:26,130 can't quite get there and it's called like dealing 727 00:38:27,210 --> 00:38:30,480 So anyway the but the video poker machine if you learn how 728 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,480 to play it, play a video poker machine which is actually it's 729 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,890 not like I would say as a high level skill but there are rules 730 00:38:37,890 --> 00:38:40,320 to doing it right because it's not really poker That's the 731 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,280 irony of irony or the or the scam of video poker is not a 732 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,520 poker, there's not poker involved here. This is a this is 733 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,240 a different kind of a game. It's video poker. And if you know how 734 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:55,260 to play it, you can actually well I actually always when I 735 00:38:55,260 --> 00:38:57,720 vote never walked away from video poker playing the right 736 00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:01,500 machines without some, you know, some money 737 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:07,590 and a 39 minutes. I would have to call it a game, I would say 738 00:39:07,860 --> 00:39:12,390 and so you'll have your homework now. What's that URL again? 739 00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:14,280 Forum. For me lab 740 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:21,120 four. fo you are M I L A b.ch. You can also if you look up John 741 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,350 Walker's John Walker Switzerland on Google, you'll probably run 742 00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:28,230 into it pretty easily, or retro psychokinesis I'm sure it's 743 00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:28,890 listed I 744 00:39:30,090 --> 00:39:33,000 coming to you from the curry condo in San Francisco. My name 745 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:33,780 is Adam curry. 746 00:39:34,590 --> 00:39:38,130 And I'm John C. Dvorak in Northern California. 747 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,310 And we'll talk to you again next week with another no agenda. 748 00:39:42,570 --> 00:39:45,960 The best and the brightest served up daily by the sharpest 749 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,830 minds in content delivery, pod show and lightweight