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Nice Joe John C. Dvorak slide
whistle Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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Sunday, April 1 2012. Time beer
Gitmo nation media assassination

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Episode Three Niner. Six.

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This is no agenda. How many of

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them can move forward in the
capital of the drone star Steve

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Austin Tejas, if he's the APR,
I'm the fool every morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry.

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Nice drive from Northern Silicon
Valley. We say nice try. I'm

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John C. Dvorak. Roskill.

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I'll do some good in April
Fool's

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Day. Yeah, April Happy April
Fool's. I mean, this is by the

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way, bull crap. You should
always do these great gags, but

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it's become so institutionalized
now by by the internet. Yeah,

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yes. It's stupid. Google did
theirs. You know, Google did

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what did they do? Some day said
that they made the oppressed

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presented a press release in
conjunction with NASCAR that

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their self driving car will be
entered in the next year's cup

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chain.

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Do you know we had a tradition
my grandfather, Eugene, curry,

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Renwick, I should say Renwick
Eugene curry on April Fool's if

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we happen to be staying there,
and I'm not sure where this came

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from. But everything would be
upside down. And we'd have a big

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steak and mashed potatoes for
breakfast. And then for dinner,

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we'd have what looked like fried
eggs on toast with spinach. But

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the fried eggs were actually
like a like a cake with two pear

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halves. So it looked like a yolk
with whipped cream around it.

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And then my grandfather would
eat the spinach with a pair of

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pliers.

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I know it's like a good one and
I didn't really care.

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Like, I think we should all eat
pliers

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on April Fool's Day and I know

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that should be standard pliers
in the dishwasher that

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nice and clean standard
operating procedure. You have

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a stake holder with a pair of
pliers can't go wrong and cut it

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when I first saw

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it was specifically the spinach
and I was like it was kind of

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cool, you know and you gonna go

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it's no wonder you're a crackpot

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funny. I just remember that. I'm
like grandpa used to do this

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crazy ass thing. If that's how
weird is that? I wish he were

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still around man. That guy was
pretty awesome. Like probably is

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he's probably right now smiling
at me chomping on some caviar

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with his pliers. Boy well in the
morning to you John C. Dvorak

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in the morning, you Adam curry
in the morning to all ships at

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sea, and boots on the ground and
feet in the air.

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And I'd like to say a special
warm welcome and hello to all of

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the human resources who are in
our chat room always there to

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keep us on the straight and
narrow and to yell ugly things.

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Dumb. I am just an example. We
have quite a quorum actually

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today from all around Gitmo
nation. That's it no agenda

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stream.com no agenda chat.net.
Good to have you guys on board

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as we do the program live every
Thursday and Sunday morning.

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9am. Gitmo nation West time,
that would be a Pacific Daylight

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Time in this case. So you'll
have to adjust for your for your

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timezone. And it kind of came to
a realization John that the

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entire world seems to we have
such a control grid on our

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consciousness here. That while
we have a million people on the

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streets of Spain riding against
their government, burning stuff,

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you know, and the Gestapo police
are they're beating them into

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submission. And Spain is just
the latest. You know, our

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government is so smart. They
turn us against each other. It's

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like the whole weekend. You
know, you didn't see a single

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thing about Spain on television,
not a single thing. All you see

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is like white guys and black
guys arguing about race and how

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we're all gonna go kill each
other. And it's just you know,

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it's like wow, we are so dumb in
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happen

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well we don't have much of a
choice because the media is the

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one that controls the the
collective unconscious

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here's I know you have a couple
of Spain clips. Let me just give

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you a Just close your eyes. And
imagine lots of kids burning

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stuff and smashing windows and
and just being really angry and

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shooting

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motiva Dr. Russo As I'm doing
this because of the new

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government's abuse when it comes
to spending cuts raising and

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denying those achievements we
gained with many years of work

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and sacrifice it's going to be
irreversible

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see no knowledge about the labor
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employee

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they get it they really get it

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you know what I mean?

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Yeah, well yeah, they get it
they do they all this was coming

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some time ago when they when
they got when they ceded to the

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European Union. European Union.

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Yeah, yeah. Allowing them to you
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and spend it on projects that
were a waste of money. I mean, I

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when I was in Madrid, I talked
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locals Garcia being one of them
I haven't been able to get a

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hold of him by the way, and it
doesn't sound good. And we and

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we took the road you know, I
talked about that freeway that

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was built outside of

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the beautiful like that when no
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There's nobody on it period.
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of with more examples of this,
which is the one about which

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what's the clip name?

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Spain is screwed would that be
the one now Spain report?

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Spain is screwed and paid Spain
was play play Spain is screwed.

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We had that

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seems like a more fun one to me.
Let's see. A further problem is

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the debt of the region's
Valencia has the highest debt, a

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region struggling with the
legacy of having backed

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prestigious projects. Valencia
splashed out on a dazzling city

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of Arts and Sciences. The only
problem debt still around 600

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million euros. can stay on our
port glimmers in the sun that

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cost 150 million euros of public
money but there was no demand a

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no plane Yeah.

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No, no a plane plane never
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when I saw this report.

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We shouldn't go and land there.
In the first place. He's like,

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hello, November's?

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A little it looks like an
airport that has got no buddies.

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So much of the runway we're
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So the Spanish had it and I
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Madrid recently on the show,
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stuff and it's all over Spain
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I was in a couple of years
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If you take take that road to
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you know, of course, they had to
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because it used to take you
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elites to get to their boats in
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45 minutes from from the airport
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there's nothing but concrete
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whole road.

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Yeah, well they I noticed these
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have all these beautiful subway
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they built up Spain with EU
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guess when the I don't know what
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some point the EU felt like you
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out all this money and then
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seeing that much free money and
I guess they didn't read the

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fine print now they basically
locked him in they stole some

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they stole

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the money it all down they come
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buildings and everyone's already
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and setting up camp and Paraguay
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cases these guys aren't this
this is the home and when you

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listen to these reports for the
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I have you can play it if you
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the model the Greek the Greek
situation is almost is the

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fractals is the or the the
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for everything else and so Spain
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Well, you know the Italians, the
Italians are also protesting,

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but in a different way, which
cracked me up. Baron von Pels.

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mocker sent me this. The Italian
pharmacies are so angry about

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the austerity measures, which of
course includes a whole bunch of

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measures as it comes to health
care. They have now said we will

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no longer supply anyone with
Viagra. And that is a real panic

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in Italy. What no Viagra No no,
no, no, no. That's cool. That's

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That's huge. That's it? Well,
you should hit them hard man

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because you know, it's all those
old douchebags in Parliament who

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need it Hey, wait a minute no
Viagra we should probably change

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something here so it's not good.

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Then go to Switzerland to get
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go to Iran to get it. Yeah, they
got plenty there even looks

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right. So of course here we
still have nothing about the

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Trayvon Martin case, which is
just pitting each other, you

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know, it's divide and conquer.

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It says there's been some good
at least you get to see a couple

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of interesting little, little
tiny bits. My favorite one which

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I have the clip of is the end he
deserves a douchebag.

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Oh, Spike Lee. Spike Lee. Yeah.

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There was one thing I was
looking at this week, Spike Lee

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tweeted out in a dress of what
he thought was the Zimmerman's

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home, George Zimmerman's home,
which was disturbing on a lot of

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levels. And then it turned out
that sorts of women didn't even

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live there. What happened to the
people who did live in that

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house?

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Well, this this house belonged
to a couple they are in their

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70s. They did have a son there
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whose middle name was George and
last name was everyman, but it

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wasn't the right guy. It wasn't
the right address. So when Spike

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Lee retweeted this address that
was out there. This couple

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started getting a lot of
attention from the media, they

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started getting menacing
letters, they started getting

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menacing phone calls. They were
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they moved into a hotel. They
just left their house behind.

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Yeah, it was give Spike Lee?

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What a douchebag. That guy is

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but interesting. The pose the
question to Joe Biden, or vice

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president a, you know, there's
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One is a race. And by the way,
I've learned that if you are

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Hispanic, that is an ethnicity,
not a race. So the argument

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is, it's a race here in
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everyone. No, no, no according
to say anything about you. If

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you say anything about the Mac
of the Latino community, you're

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a racist. No,

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you should technically you
should be an ethicist.

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pronounce it. They would like

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ethicist. You're an ethicist,
you darn ethicist. You know it?

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Because, you know, that's the
argument. No,

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it's not a race. But it's the
point is, if you if you will get

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called out as a racist if you do
anything that's, you know, you

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like good bitch about the
immigration laws or do any of

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these things. You're a racist?
Yeah. And then the Mexican

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Americans or the Mexicans will
call you one. Yeah. It's so

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funny up your mind people, but
it's so fun.

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I really well, maybe I'm just
hopeful, but I really don't

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think most Americans give a crap
anymore. Everyone's Brown was

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brown. Now. It's like we've
intermingled intermix everyone's

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brown. It's cool. Yeah,
Christina's boyfriend won. The

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name is a giveaway.

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One one, and a split up to

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Juan Francisco. Now. Like I
don't I don't see this. I don't

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see that he's Brown. I just hope
we get some cool grandkids with

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like, you know, chocolate brown
with blonde dreadlocks. Hoping

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for that. Anyway, oh, Biden is
asking why we don't know. But

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everyone wants beautiful
grandkids come on, but

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dreadlocks

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should like stink. Literally,
yeah. Okay.

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Well, I'm just saying, oh, gosh,
I can't believe I said that. I

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hate that. This is one of those
millennial thing. I even wrote a

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blog post about it. But what
people saying, you know, they'll

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give you a criticism like,
you're no good. Just saying.

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Oh, yeah, just sayin. Oh, yeah.
You've been doing that a lot. I

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you know, I have not.

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I haven't. I've not been doing
it a lot. And in fact, it was

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done to me over email and I was
so angry about it. That I wrote

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a blog post about it. We have to
eradicate this. Okay, just

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saying but yeah, you can call me
out if I do it. It's that's how

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bad it is. I hate it. And I
still do it myself. Right. Okay.

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All right. Geez. All right. So
Biden is asked about the gun

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issue. Because, you know, of
course, when we have when you

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put the people of America and
you pit them against each other,

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you don't want them you know,
having guns because you know, we

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eventually guns could be used
against I don't know the

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government or something. It's
not a good idea. So Joe Biden

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weighs in

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on balance. I think that it's
important look that people be

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put in a position where their
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protected. But that they also
don't as a consequence of laws

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unintended Lee put themselves in
harm's way you know the bulk of

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the people who are shot with a
weapon other than these drug

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gangs taking on one another are
ended up being shot where their

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own weapon

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let's dispel this myth once and
for all.

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What did he want? Is that even a
myth? Nobody believes that

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people who get shot the most are
shot by their shoot themselves.

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Apparently no American military
weapons or drugs wounds are

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bombs. That's how most people
are killed with weapons. It was

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stuff made by GE and Boeing was
be honest about it. No, but

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even if we just dropped them
from the formula, he's claiming

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that most people are shot with
their own weapons. Yes.

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Statistically, it's a fact. You
didn't know that not

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a fact.

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It's a fact.

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Where did that fat come from?
It's a fact who?

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I don't know Joe Biden. He's the
vice president who are you to

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question him.

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And so the idea that there's
this overwhelming additional

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security and and the ownership
and carrying concealed and

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deadly weapons. I think it's the
premise not the Constitution,

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right. But the premise that it
makes people safer.

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Next sense,

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you know what, I heard this
clip, I went out and bought a

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new gun.

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And other states that have wide
effect what's one of them? I

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think, is New Hampshire is yet
another one. They have much less

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crime because everybody's arm
everybody's

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polite. It's like you know what?
Hey, man, I'm not gonna mess

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with you because you might be
armed. Exactly.

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Didn't even have to have a gun
in Texas actually. Exactly. Walk

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around like you've got one. I
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Oh, have you ever seen this? It
actually says it actually in

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green letters on the side. It
says zombie Slayer and you get

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these little ammo that has a
little green tip in it it's very

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cool. This zombie Slayer? Like
you seriously selling this?

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Yeah, I need one. That's too
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There it is. This a little
handgun? looks too small too.

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What's the 380? Yeah.

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The zombie Slayer. They also
have it with a green laser

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sight. But I thought that was
that was a little over the top

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with these ideas? Well, you've
heard of such things. Genius. I

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tell you as a trainer. 59 bucks.
Now I know I got a much cheaper

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than that. Oh, that's mail
orders. 359

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I got a low serial number. I got
like 128 or something? Which is

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good. It's a collector's piece
collector's item. What are you

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looking at the cost? 300 bucks.
That's too expensive.

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Now I'm just looking online.

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So I did a lot of research for
for everybody. I felt it was

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necessary. And I'll let you
choose

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zombie sleigh. I'm sorry. I'm
just distracted by the stupid

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little gun. And he's got a one
inch barrel can't even hit

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anything. Well, I'm gonna take
him and have a site.

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I'm gonna take it out on the
range. I bet you it's

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even it doesn't even know it
doesn't have a site. It has a

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little site and has little No.
Yeah, does well, I don't have it

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here. You just

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shoot away like a maniac can run
for your life.

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Well, that's what pistols are
for that just to shoot until you

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get to your rifle. They're not
for actually hitting anything.

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Here's another crappy looking
gun. I hated change the topic.

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But here's the 70. This is a
laser plug. Nevermind. Go on.

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I'm done. Yeah, really,

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please stop already? Well, I
read through several pieces of

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legislation. Maybe I should
start with one. The first thing

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I started receiving a whole
bunch of emails from people,

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which of course, is an online
campaign, which shows which

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senators voted against taxing
Big Oil, you know, like and the

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amount of money they've received
from oil companies and special

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interest showing how corrupt our
our government is now dA. So we

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know all that. But then like,
you know, what actually, was

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this bill about? Because the
President came out in the Rose

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Garden had a cross section of
Americans behind him just some

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nondescript people, all shapes
and sizes and colors and

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figures. And you know, and he
would refer to the American

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people, and he kind of like,
glance over his shoulder like

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them back there. Do you
identify? And I think it was

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being very disingenuous once I
read with this legislation,

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actually is and I want to share
that with you. Because, you

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know, it's a very Republican
thing to say that this was bad.

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And you know, we have no agenda.
But I think that there was

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something that he was not saying
we're lying about that we it'll

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be good for you to know. When
the conversation comes up at a

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cocktail party. Here's what the
President said in the Rose

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Garden.

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Today, members of Congress have
a simple choice to make. They

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can stand with the big oil
companies, they can stand with

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the American people. Right now,
the biggest oil companies are

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raking in record profits.
Profits legal fill up every time

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folks books pull up into a gas
station.

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That's right, your profits go up
now. And I don't think the

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profit margin goes up. But okay.

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But on top of these record
profits, oil companies are also

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getting billions a year.

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Now, that is by itself, really
bending the truth. Because it's

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not like there's some law
somewhere that says, hey, you're

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an oil company, here's a billion
dollars. You know that? Of

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course, we know

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that's true. There's an oil
depletion allowance, which is,

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oh, no, it's it's much worse
than that. John, I found out

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what this is really about, but
let the President continue.

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Because he's, this is part of
his campaign really, just to

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scam us. And and if this
legislation had been signed, I

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believe it truly would have
resulted in something very bad.

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So let's continue billions

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a year in taxpayer subsidies,
subsidies, a subsidy that

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they've enjoyed year after year,
for the last century

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century. Really think about

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that. I'm thinking think about
it.

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Are you thinking? Yeah, I think
what are you thinking?

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I'm thinking, wow, wow, what?

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eight holes, right? Or,

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like hitting the American people
twice. You're already paying a

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premium at the pump. Right? What
premium?

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What premium? That's not I don't
understand what he's saying that

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you're already paying a premium.
Or it doesn't mean we're we're

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tanking premium. Because I get
regular, I don't get premium.

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And on top of that, Congress, up
until this point, has thought it

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was a good idea to send billions
of dollars more. Now wait a

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minute.

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He's saying, John, what I'm
hearing him say is Congress has

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this big bag of money. And they
go they pass the hat around,

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they put billions of dollars
into it. And then they go, hey,

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here you go

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billions of dollars in tax
dollars tax dollar, the oil

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industry. It's not as if these
companies can stand on their

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own.

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Okay. All right. So now I'm
interested. And then he goes

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into this whole thing about what
we really shouldn't be doing is

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not given these billions of
dollars to these horrible people

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who are already charging a
premium on us for some reason.

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But we need to put that into
other really great things we

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know work really, really well.

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I think it's curious that some
folks in Congress, who are the

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first to belittle investments in
new sources of energy are the

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ones that are fighting the
hardest to maintain these

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giveaways for the oil companies
giveaways. Now, it's a giveaway

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of taxpayer giveaways to an
industry that's taxpayer

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giveaway never been more
profitable. He's good. We should

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be using that money to double
down on investments in clean

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energy technologies that have
never been more promising.

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They've never

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been profitable. Yeah.

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Never been never been profitable
ever been

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more or less. Nova has never
been profitable.

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Let's see Solyndra money doing
it now. No, you can't. That's

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the problem. It works. I mean,
you can put a windmill up and it

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works. But you know, the cost of
the windmill and you'd have to

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use it for 50 years before it
starts to pay back. But okay. He

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is saying something truthfully
here about doubling down and

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I'll prove that to you in a
moment.

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Investments in wind power, solar
power, Solyndra, biofuels,

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biofuels, investments, and fuel
efficient cars and trucks. Yeah,

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battery car and energy efficient
homes and buildings. That's the

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future.

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He's now remember you saying
investments here, right? That's

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the

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only way we're gonna break this
cycle of high gas prices that

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happen year after year after
year. As the

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that's not true.

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Guys only happened recently.
Yeah, it happened in the 70s.

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And then it settled back down.
Now it's happening because of

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him

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economy is growing. The only
time you start seeing lower gas

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prices, and is when the economy
is doing badly.

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Hmm. Is that true?

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No, that's not true at all. It's
just the opposite. Yeah,

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I don't know. Anyway, whatever.
That's not Oh, hold on

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a second in the 70s. When we had
a downloadable economy. Yeah.

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That's when we had that the OPEC
decided to gouge everybody. So

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they jacked up the prices and we
started having $2 gas, and he

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was always way under $1. Before
then. And now in the sense it

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goes since the 2000 two.com
crash in the downturn, and it

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did from 2000 to 2007. Which was
started to pick up and then it

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crashed again. 2008 the oil
prices went up a big time during

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a bush and there are bitching
and moaning about during the

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election. And now when the
economy tanked it's gone way up.

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So what So he's completed so
where's What is he thinking?

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What is he What was his logic
for?

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I don't know, but he asked you
to think about it. I did and he

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is doing badly. That's not the
kind of pattern that we want to

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be and we want the economy doing
well, and people to be able to

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afford their energy costs. Okay,

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now, so I'm down with that,
buddy. I'm like what Right. If

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you listen if you listen to the
president and he tells you to

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think about it and you know I've
got all these visuals of he's

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told me to think about it. So
I've got a visual of Congress

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just sitting around smoking
cigars and handing out billions

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in cash and like Wow, man, you
know, that's like it screw those

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guys. What's up with that? Okay,
so I go take a look at this

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bill. This is house sorry,
Senate Resolution 2204 also

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known as the repeal big oil tax
subsidies act. Nice number

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again, s 2204. It'll be in the
show notes at three Niner

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six.na shownotes.com marked up
for your convenience. So the the

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whole bill is, you know, kind of
what he's saying you know,

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extension for credit for certain
plug in electric vehicles

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extended by a year. Extension of
credit for alternative fuel

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vehicle refueling property. So
if you know if you're going to

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set up a refueling station, you
get a credit. Okay? I mean, if

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we all agree with this, that's
fine with me, it's okay. And I

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don't necessarily believe in all
of it. But algae, by the way,

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this is an interesting one isn't
is now being treated as a

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qualified feedstock for purposes
of the cellular cellulosic

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biofuel producer credit. So I
guess, algae real winner, yeah.

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burnin algae. Alright, so
there's just pages and pages of

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this. Then it comes to the
relevant right at the very

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bottom here. It is the law
actually midway, we get section

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108 extension of production
credit for wind facilities. So

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I'm already in production
credit. Okay, what does that

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when facilities will now be
taken in consideration for the

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so called production credit,
also an increased credit amount

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for Indian coal facilities. So
coal apparently is okay. The

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coal was all through this thing.
Then we have the extension of

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election of investment tax
credit in lieu of the production

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credits. I'm like, What is this
production credit thing? And oh,

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I might want to point out,
there's an expansion of

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qualifying advanced energy
production credit, it's merely

450
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:24,180
$4.6 billion. That so I actually
it was 2.3. And it's now been

451
00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:28,050
doubled. That's the doubling
down to 4.6. Okay, so we're

452
00:27:28,050 --> 00:27:33,600
spending an additional $2.3
billion on Advanced Energy

453
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,650
Project credit, which I guess
means research and development

454
00:27:37,650 --> 00:27:41,970
setting up other stuff. It's not
really producing anything. We're

455
00:27:41,970 --> 00:27:46,590
also extending the mine rescue
team training credit and the

456
00:27:47,250 --> 00:27:51,510
election to expense Mind Safety
equipment. So mining and coal is

457
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:54,780
good. That's okay. That's a part
of it. Then at the very bottom

458
00:27:54,780 --> 00:28:00,360
last page, repeal of oil and gas
subsidies, subtitle a close big

459
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:04,890
oil tax loophole. Okay. So this
is where these guys are getting

460
00:28:04,890 --> 00:28:05,100
to,

461
00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:09,540
is doing it a bill. I'm looking
at it to going along this

462
00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:13,530
extension of this man, blah,
blah, blah. This is close, big

463
00:28:13,530 --> 00:28:17,040
oil tax loophole. Right. So this
doesn't belong in

464
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,590
a bill. Well, here's where it
gets very interesting. And you

465
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:24,090
know, me I'm for some reason I
get off on this crap limitation

466
00:28:24,090 --> 00:28:29,220
on section 199. deduction, a
true attributable, attributable

467
00:28:29,610 --> 00:28:34,080
to oil, natural gas or primary
products thereof. And what it is

468
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,670
saying is denial of deduction.
paragraph four of section 199.

469
00:28:38,670 --> 00:28:42,180
See, the Internal Revenue Code
of 1986 is amended by adding at

470
00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:45,570
the end the following new sub
paragraph special rule for

471
00:28:45,570 --> 00:28:48,420
certain oil and gas income. In
the case of any taxpayer,

472
00:28:48,420 --> 00:28:51,600
there'll be a corporation was a
major integrated oil company.

473
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:56,940
Essentially, that deduction
credit will no longer apply to

474
00:28:56,940 --> 00:28:59,490
them. So then I'm like, You know
what, why don't I go take a look

475
00:28:59,490 --> 00:29:05,460
at Section 199 of the Internal
Revenue Code. Here it is, income

476
00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:09,660
attributable to domestic
production activities. This is

477
00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:18,540
in our tax code. It allows the
deduction of 9% of your cost if

478
00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:22,500
you produce something in the
United States from American

479
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:26,430
goods, so in general, I'm
reading directly from the tax

480
00:29:26,430 --> 00:29:29,760
code. domestic production gross
receipts means the gross

481
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,150
receipts of the taxpayer which
are derived from any lease

482
00:29:33,210 --> 00:29:37,500
rental license, sale, exchange
or other disposition of

483
00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:40,800
qualifying production property
which was manufactured,

484
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,910
produced, grown or extracted by
the taxpayer in whole or in

485
00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:48,600
significant part within the
United States. So that would be

486
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:53,940
any type of energy product, but
also any qualified film produced

487
00:29:53,940 --> 00:29:58,620
by the taxpayer. So the entire
movie industry is allowed to

488
00:29:58,620 --> 00:30:03,030
deduct 9% from their gross
receipts right off the top, you

489
00:30:03,030 --> 00:30:05,130
don't know that's for their
production. So it's really their

490
00:30:05,130 --> 00:30:11,640
cost, electricity, natural gas
and potable water produced by

491
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,830
the by the taxpayer in United
States also you get that

492
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:16,830
production, credit,
construction, engineering or

493
00:30:16,830 --> 00:30:21,930
architectural services. Right?
Notice, making a podcast is not

494
00:30:21,930 --> 00:30:27,120
on this list. Now what is
excluded? Excluded is the sale

495
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,950
of food and beverages prepared
at a retail establishment, and

496
00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:35,850
the transmission or distribution
of electricity, natural gas or

497
00:30:35,850 --> 00:30:39,030
potable water. So pipelines and
stuff don't count. Oh, by the

498
00:30:39,030 --> 00:30:43,710
way, any computer software, such
as anything Apple makes, or

499
00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:49,110
Microsoft also enjoys this 9%
deduction. So what they are

500
00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:56,820
saying is, we want to take one
little division when I'd little

501
00:30:56,850 --> 00:31:02,430
but one portion of the American
industry of all of them and make

502
00:31:02,430 --> 00:31:09,510
them pay for the algae stuff. By
removing their 9% There's only

503
00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:13,800
one thing that this would have
resulted in increased prices,

504
00:31:14,340 --> 00:31:17,730
because that would have been
passed right on to us. So what

505
00:31:17,730 --> 00:31:23,100
the President should have said,
Hey, we all agree we love algae,

506
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:26,040
and we love the solar and we
love the wind power, which has

507
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,150
now been added. So let's pay
more for it. Do we all agree?

508
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:33,030
Should we just put another 9% on
what we're already paying for

509
00:31:33,030 --> 00:31:37,980
gas? Then let's pass this bill.
But he doesn't say that. And by

510
00:31:37,980 --> 00:31:40,200
the way, why don't we just
lowered for everybody. Apple's

511
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:45,540
got a lot of money. Why can't we
take some of their dough? Oh,

512
00:31:45,540 --> 00:31:47,490
no, the iPad would be more
expensive.

513
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,680
So I was kind of shocked at the
DIS ingenuity.

514
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,020
I don't know if that's a word.
You

515
00:31:55,020 --> 00:31:56,070
know what I mean, though, right.
I

516
00:31:56,070 --> 00:32:00,330
like it, though. Ingenuity
disingenuous, combined to make

517
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,770
this ingenuity. It's called

518
00:32:01,770 --> 00:32:06,330
the bullcrap, then, yes, he was
disingenuous. It's not she

519
00:32:06,330 --> 00:32:09,630
really Obama. Yeah. But it was
the crap. Let me write that

520
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,460
down. What did he give that
speech? This past week? Wow. I

521
00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:16,140
mean, I gotta put that as a
first.

522
00:32:17,130 --> 00:32:20,160
So you know, I was just like,
Wow, man, you know, it makes it

523
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,770
sound like we're just handing
out but we're handing the same

524
00:32:22,770 --> 00:32:27,720
billions of dollars to the movie
industry. How about this? How

525
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,320
about we make the price cool.
It's only 2.62 point 3 billion.

526
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,470
That's all that we're really
adding into it? Let's let's

527
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:38,610
Diablos make it fun. Let's make
it 5 billion. Do you mind paying

528
00:32:38,610 --> 00:32:43,590
an extra $2 for your movie
ticket? It will save the planet.

529
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:47,520
That's how you do this not by
lying about the guys in the room

530
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,960
handing out billions of dollars.

531
00:32:49,170 --> 00:32:51,510
This you can't do it that way
because nobody's going to pay

532
00:32:51,510 --> 00:32:56,670
two bucks on a mu extra for LG
growing things. So what are you

533
00:32:56,670 --> 00:32:59,700
talking about? As everybody
knows, this is all just okay.

534
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:02,700
They're kind of feel good. It's
all feel good. You know? Yeah,

535
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:05,670
we got to get to win. Yeah, I
feel a lot better about myself.

536
00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:09,930
Because I support Wind Power
Man. analogy, man. They're

537
00:33:09,930 --> 00:33:14,610
growing algae, man, but pain to
back. So now. As far as job that

538
00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:17,430
crap, we can't i can't be having
that much to turn the Publican

539
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:20,940
to cynics. All right, then.
Yeah. lie to him. Yeah.

540
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,030
Well, but it keeps on going.
Because you know, and I'm like,

541
00:33:24,030 --> 00:33:25,140
Okay, that's enough. And like,

542
00:33:25,770 --> 00:33:27,780
and then I went deeper into
this, not into

543
00:33:27,780 --> 00:33:30,990
this. And then he comes out with
his little show, which he does

544
00:33:30,990 --> 00:33:35,460
every, every weekend. It's the
Baroque, the Baroque show. It's

545
00:33:35,460 --> 00:33:40,140
a romantic comedy. It's called
the presidential address. And,

546
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,420
and in this, he's pushing the
Buffett Rule Act, which

547
00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:51,300
actually, is the paying a fair
share act of 2012. So there's

548
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:55,860
just so much in this, that is
not true. And of course, I read

549
00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:58,260
the act as well. And I want to
and I need your help on this.

550
00:33:58,260 --> 00:34:02,490
Because this is really not okay,
what is taking place? So let's

551
00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:04,650
listen to the president from his
his little show.

552
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,350
Over the last few months, I've
been talking about a choice we

553
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:10,890
face as a country. We can either
settle for an economy where a

554
00:34:10,890 --> 00:34:13,710
few people do really well, and
everybody else struggles to get

555
00:34:13,710 --> 00:34:14,040
by

556
00:34:14,070 --> 00:34:15,930
Wait a minute, that is not the
American dream.

557
00:34:16,170 --> 00:34:18,660
Yeah, it was the American dream.
Just getting by I thought that

558
00:34:18,660 --> 00:34:20,250
was good. All right. Well, guess
what? We

559
00:34:20,250 --> 00:34:21,960
don't that good enough now for
you?

560
00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:26,160
Or we can build an economy where
hard work pays off again. Okay,

561
00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:27,660
where everyone gets a fair shot.

562
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,539
Oh, no. You know, when I grew
up, John, you know, my mom used

563
00:34:30,539 --> 00:34:34,649
to say, life's not fair. Did you
ever hear that from your

564
00:34:34,649 --> 00:34:39,029
parents? Probably. Everybody's
heard. That's not fair. And my

565
00:34:39,029 --> 00:34:40,859
mom would go Life's not fair.

566
00:34:41,219 --> 00:34:45,509
Well, I got it as a snarky
response to my complaints. I'm

567
00:34:45,509 --> 00:34:46,049
just saying.

568
00:34:47,489 --> 00:34:53,579
That's, I think, I think that
was kind of ya know, my my

569
00:34:53,579 --> 00:34:56,369
parents are older than me. My
mom is no longer with us. And

570
00:34:56,429 --> 00:34:59,999
she's probably I hope she's
laughing. But a decade old

571
00:34:59,999 --> 00:35:04,829
learned or 15 years older than
you, I guess. That's what they

572
00:35:04,829 --> 00:35:08,279
would say, life's not fair. Get
over it. This is what it is.

573
00:35:08,609 --> 00:35:11,069
Okay, that's how I was brought
up. But now it's like, oh,

574
00:35:11,069 --> 00:35:12,089
everything has to be fair.

575
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,340
All right, everyone does their
fair share.

576
00:35:14,399 --> 00:35:17,189
What does that mean? Or share?
Does that fair share me

577
00:35:17,939 --> 00:35:20,729
loves using that I don't even
know who it appeals to.

578
00:35:21,179 --> 00:35:23,669
Everyone plays by the same
rules.

579
00:35:23,699 --> 00:35:26,459
That's another thing. Now, not
everyone plays by the same

580
00:35:26,459 --> 00:35:29,879
rules. Because there's people
who cheat and lie and do all

581
00:35:29,879 --> 00:35:32,609
kinds of stuff. That's not like,
rules.

582
00:35:33,150 --> 00:35:36,870
That's up to us. Today, I want
to talk to you about the idea

583
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:39,630
that everyone in this country
should do their fair share.

584
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:41,220
What does that mean?

585
00:35:44,010 --> 00:35:47,040
It's hilarious. He keeps saying
it are perfect world, we'd have

586
00:35:47,070 --> 00:35:48,420
unlimited resources. Well,

587
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,570
I got to back this up. This was
very funny. This was actually

588
00:35:51,570 --> 00:35:52,080
pretty funny.

589
00:35:52,830 --> 00:35:56,250
Perfect World, we'd have
unlimited resources. No one

590
00:35:56,250 --> 00:35:58,260
would ever have to pay any
taxes, and we could spend as

591
00:35:58,260 --> 00:35:59,070
much as we wanted.

592
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,370
Yeah, that sounds good to me.
How about you, John, I'm in

593
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,310
looked at hookers. Let's spend
whatever we want. There's no

594
00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:08,580
taxes. Now you're talking my
language. But Mr. President,

595
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:10,200
but we live in the real world,

596
00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:13,140
Oh, bummer. We don't

597
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:16,530
have unlimited resources. We
have a deficit that needs to be

598
00:36:16,530 --> 00:36:19,740
paid down. And we also have to
pay for investments that will

599
00:36:19,740 --> 00:36:23,820
help our economy grow and keep
our country safe. Education,

600
00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:28,440
Research and Technology, a
strong military and retirement

601
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,660
programs like Medicare and
Social Security

602
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:33,960
that scared me when he when he
slipped Social Security in

603
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,710
there. I've been paying for
that. He's saying we have to pay

604
00:36:37,710 --> 00:36:40,770
for it. Wait a minute. I thought
we already paid for that. That

605
00:36:40,770 --> 00:36:43,020
scared me a little bit when he
said that, but okay, I'll let

606
00:36:43,020 --> 00:36:44,550
him sled trying to screw us.

607
00:36:44,850 --> 00:36:49,920
So he Yes, well, he comes out
with the one that he but there

608
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,210
is a bill, this is Senate Bill
205 niner, to reduce the deficit

609
00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:56,850
by imposing a minimum effective
tax rate for high income

610
00:36:56,850 --> 00:36:59,940
taxpayers. And actually, I
should probably pay to play his

611
00:36:59,940 --> 00:37:06,990
30 seconds of what he proposes
to do about this. Let me see.

612
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:09,030
Here it is. Sorry.

613
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,650
This is the paying a fair share.
Act. Yes.

614
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:16,740
Listen to this last decade,
we've spent hundreds of billions

615
00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:19,650
of dollars on what was supposed
to be a temporary tax cut,

616
00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:20,130
again,

617
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,910
with the spending. Again, it
sounded like we just gave all

618
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:25,710
these millionaires and
billionaires hundreds of

619
00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:28,200
millions of dollars. Look,
here's a bag. Here's a bag, Mr.

620
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:28,650
Buffett,

621
00:37:29,399 --> 00:37:32,909
for the wealthiest 2% of
Americans. Now we're scheduled

622
00:37:32,909 --> 00:37:37,079
to spend almost a trillion more.
Now you got my attention. Today,

623
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,389
the wealthiest Americans are
paying taxes and one of the

624
00:37:39,389 --> 00:37:43,679
lowest rates in 50 years. Warren
Buffett is paying a lower rate

625
00:37:43,709 --> 00:37:44,579
than a secretary.

626
00:37:45,210 --> 00:37:47,160
Yes, because he's a scam artist.
Yeah, he's

627
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,400
in a hole. He doesn't pay a
secretary enough. Well, over

628
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,130
the last 30 years, the tax rates
for middle class families have

629
00:37:53,130 --> 00:37:56,250
barely budged. That's not fair,

630
00:37:56,370 --> 00:37:58,470
unfair. And life's not fair

631
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:01,890
to make any sense. Do we want to
keep giving tax breaks to the

632
00:38:01,890 --> 00:38:05,310
wealthiest Americans, folks like
myself or folks, Warren Buffett,

633
00:38:05,310 --> 00:38:07,560
or Bill Gates, Bill Gates? Yeah,
let's

634
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,200
give him some tax breaks people
who don't need them and never

635
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,690
asked for them. I love how he
compares himself to Bill Gates

636
00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:16,380
and Warren Buffett, what is
beraksi? Kitty? What is he

637
00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:20,130
sitting on? Folks like it like,
Man, I don't think you're in

638
00:38:20,130 --> 00:38:22,140
that class, speaking of class,

639
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,230
or do we want to keep investing
in the things that will grow our

640
00:38:25,230 --> 00:38:27,900
economy and keep us secure,
because we can't afford to do

641
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:32,280
both. Now, some people call this
class warfare. But I think

642
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,220
asking a billionaire to pay at
least the same tax rate as a

643
00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:39,600
secretary is just common sense.
We don't envy success in this

644
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,770
country. We aspire to it. But we
also believe that anyone who

645
00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:46,770
does well for themselves should
do their fair share in return.

646
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,360
Yeah, it's called philanthropy.
And we have a very rich history

647
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,800
of this, of setting up all kinds
of foundations and funds and

648
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,300
leaving your money in beautiful
museums and libraries. And oh,

649
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:01,560
you mean something else? I'm
sorry.

650
00:39:01,590 --> 00:39:04,470
So that more people have the
opportunity to get ahead. Yeah.

651
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:08,610
All right. So there's the whole
idea. And if you look at the

652
00:39:08,610 --> 00:39:11,820
bill, it's very simple. At least
in the beginning, it's very

653
00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:15,600
simple. As it says, in general,
the tentative fair share tax for

654
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,870
the taxable years 30% of the
excess of the adjusted gross

655
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:23,190
income of the taxpayer, over $1
million. So currently, the

656
00:39:23,220 --> 00:39:29,160
bracket that we have is 28%, as
high for federal taxes. And so

657
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:34,260
this would be a 30% tax bracket
if you make, presumably, a

658
00:39:34,290 --> 00:39:39,240
income over $1 million. So this
is not exactly the same as

659
00:39:39,810 --> 00:39:43,320
capital gains. In fact, this
document, as far as I can tell,

660
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,150
does not necessarily deal with
it. But what it what this is

661
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:52,590
meant to do, is and it says it
down here at the very end.

662
00:39:54,450 --> 00:39:57,870
Congress should it's not in the
bill itself, but they're saying

663
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:01,890
what this isn't intended to do.
He's enact tax reform that

664
00:40:01,890 --> 00:40:05,460
repeals unfair and unnecessary
tax loopholes and expenditure

665
00:40:05,460 --> 00:40:07,770
simplifies the system for
millions of taxpayers and

666
00:40:07,770 --> 00:40:12,270
businesses by eliminating the
alternative minimum tax for

667
00:40:12,270 --> 00:40:16,320
middle class Americans. So the
bill is incomplete because it's

668
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,910
saying this is what this is how
it should work, is we tax

669
00:40:20,910 --> 00:40:23,100
everyone who makes over a
million dollars income, not

670
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:27,390
capital gains, but income at a
30% rate, so we can get rid of

671
00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:33,150
the alternative minimum tax for
the middle class. John, would

672
00:40:33,150 --> 00:40:36,150
you like to I'll give the
history and then John, maybe you

673
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:40,110
can explain a little bit more
how the alternative minimum tax

674
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,270
works. Because what this this
was set up in, have the history

675
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:55,620
here. In 19 6070, then Treasury
Secretary Joseph Barr found out

676
00:40:55,980 --> 00:41:01,140
that 155 high income households
had not paid a dime of federal

677
00:41:01,140 --> 00:41:04,980
income taxes, they had taken
advantage of so many tax

678
00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:08,250
benefits and deductions, they
had reduced their tax liability

679
00:41:08,250 --> 00:41:11,910
down to zero. And Congress
responded by creating an add on

680
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:16,650
tax on high income households
equal to at that time 10% of the

681
00:41:16,650 --> 00:41:23,580
sum of tax preferences in excess
of $30,000. And since 1970, this

682
00:41:24,330 --> 00:41:28,770
alternative minimum tax has been
adjusted for inflation. So that

683
00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:34,860
even though prices have gone up,
and and your wages have gone up

684
00:41:34,890 --> 00:41:37,980
in real spending power, you may
not have actually had more

685
00:41:37,980 --> 00:41:41,100
money. So they had to adjust
that level up every single time.

686
00:41:41,460 --> 00:41:43,980
And that what they're talking
about now is not adjusting that

687
00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:47,310
level. But we should get rid of
it after we take the money from

688
00:41:47,310 --> 00:41:49,680
the millionaires and
billionaires. Can you explain

689
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,260
how the alternative minimum tax
works, John, just so people kind

690
00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:53,250
of get a grasp on it.

691
00:41:53,279 --> 00:41:56,339
I'm not even sure myself, but I
know this is that the

692
00:41:56,339 --> 00:42:01,169
alternative minimum tax was set
up to ensure that people pay a

693
00:42:01,169 --> 00:42:03,779
minimum amount of taxes. In
other words, if you have a

694
00:42:03,779 --> 00:42:07,529
really good some sort of a lots
of writing, essentially,

695
00:42:07,529 --> 00:42:12,779
essentially a tax, you have to
pay minimally, yeah, if you if

696
00:42:12,779 --> 00:42:15,659
you somehow got your tax, or if
you make money, but you don't

697
00:42:15,659 --> 00:42:16,559
pay any taxes.

698
00:42:16,770 --> 00:42:20,940
So right now, that is, I believe
the amount is $183,000. If you

699
00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:29,700
make over $183,000, then you
will have to pay whatever

700
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:34,170
portion is over that amount, you
will have to pay this

701
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,470
alternative minimum tax over
that. So there is talk of

702
00:42:37,470 --> 00:42:41,730
raising that to $250,000. But
what they really won't

703
00:42:41,730 --> 00:42:46,500
get here on the IRS bulletin,
and for the year 2010. The AMT,

704
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:51,210
the alternative minimum tax
exemption was 72,000. Sorry, I'm

705
00:42:51,210 --> 00:42:54,150
married couple. Oh, really? 47
for a single

706
00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:58,290
I'm mistaken. So over. So
basically, middle class, if

707
00:42:58,290 --> 00:42:59,760
you're making over 47, which,

708
00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:04,290
that's a seven is pretty, you
know, very lower middle class or

709
00:43:04,290 --> 00:43:08,040
middle class. We're not talking
about the 40s. Right. And so if

710
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,100
you make over $47,000, no matter
what you do, you have a minimum

711
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,210
tax, you have to pay, right,

712
00:43:12,210 --> 00:43:15,150
so you just can't expense your
way out of it. So they're

713
00:43:15,150 --> 00:43:16,410
talking about raising toys.

714
00:43:16,410 --> 00:43:21,270
If you make 47. Four, and you
spend it all because on done

715
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:25,200
legit, I think it's all gone.
You just to stay alive, you

716
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,670
still have to pay taxes, yes.

717
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:31,680
on whatever pittance you have
left. And normally they've

718
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,830
adjusted that up. But what's now
happening is we're not going to

719
00:43:34,830 --> 00:43:37,950
adjust that we want to have the
millionaires and billionaires

720
00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:43,590
pay for that. And and that will
then allow us to remove that

721
00:43:43,590 --> 00:43:48,930
minimum tax Well, according to
the Congressional Budget Office,

722
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:55,950
they say we'll probably lose
about $864 billion over a 10

723
00:43:55,950 --> 00:43:59,970
year period. Because this is the
Buffett Rule, according to the

724
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,600
CBO, who does their job to
report on this would generate

725
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,620
$47 billion over 10 years or
less than 5 billion a year. But

726
00:44:07,620 --> 00:44:13,410
here's the kicker. This doesn't
start until 2013. It didn't

727
00:44:13,410 --> 00:44:14,280
mention that.

728
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:23,400
So that's because the Bush tax.
lash up expires on January

729
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,450
1 2013. Right, but he's making
he's making you're gonna Yeah, I

730
00:44:27,450 --> 00:44:29,460
don't know how much longer
you're going to dwell on this.

731
00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:33,810
But I do have a clip that kind
of addresses or addresses it

732
00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:39,780
from the other side, please. So
we had Bernanke. And what's his

733
00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:43,290
name Little with the guy from
the from? Leave it to Beaver,

734
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:49,440
what's his name? Timmy? Yeah,
right. Timmy Geithner, and he,

735
00:44:49,830 --> 00:44:54,840
they were discussing certain
things and so I got got to two

736
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:58,860
clips from Bernanke which kind
of says it all Bernanke. Sorry.

737
00:44:59,580 --> 00:45:04,590
First We'll start with the
Bernanke rate ratio spiel. Now.

738
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,900
Yeah, just Yeah, though you set
it up, then he's being asked

739
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:13,350
what what's, how long can we go
on with the situation we

740
00:45:13,350 --> 00:45:15,330
currently have. And I think this
is one of the things Obama is

741
00:45:15,330 --> 00:45:19,530
trying to address by screwing us
up. But you'll see by the second

742
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,400
comment that burning Bernanke
says, which is Bernanke number

743
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,610
two, that they would have
Obama's barking up the wrong

744
00:45:26,610 --> 00:45:28,230
tree, but go on cherub racking?

745
00:45:29,070 --> 00:45:33,900
Is our current fiscal trajectory
sustainable? In the United

746
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:37,470
States In the United States? No,
it's not the end of clip.

747
00:45:38,670 --> 00:45:40,020
Beautiful when done?

748
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:46,140
What is the sustainable debt
load for a country such as ours

749
00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:46,770
zero?

750
00:45:48,090 --> 00:45:53,640
Well, there's no exact number. I
think that the current levels

751
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,630
would be sustainable if they
were kept more or less constant

752
00:45:57,630 --> 00:46:00,600
relative to GDP. I mean, I think
that's, that's, that's an

753
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,710
important criterion. If we
could, over a period of years,

754
00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:10,080
get the debt to GDP ratio to
some level like 75%. And then

755
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,600
over time, even begin to improve
that I think that would be a

756
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:18,030
much better situation. But as it
stands, the CBO projections show

757
00:46:18,030 --> 00:46:21,570
that under current law, the debt
to GDP ratio begins to explode

758
00:46:21,570 --> 00:46:23,010
in the next couple of decades.

759
00:46:24,540 --> 00:46:29,490
It's like my crops exploding.
Hey, so right now, our our, our

760
00:46:29,490 --> 00:46:32,940
debt ratio, we're at 100%.
Right. I don't know what it

761
00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:36,810
Yeah, no, I think I think now
we're the like 14 or 15

762
00:46:36,810 --> 00:46:41,700
trillion. It is 100% of what our
revenues are on an annual basis.

763
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:43,410
Yeah, yeah. It's like we're like
Greece.

764
00:46:43,650 --> 00:46:48,480
So here, we're not as bad. So
here. So now, another guy comes

765
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,720
back into the hearing to ask
this specific question just to

766
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,990
get because Geithner is there,
by the way, and I don't have the

767
00:46:54,990 --> 00:46:59,130
clip of him. Because I go to
Geithner, after Bernanke says

768
00:46:59,130 --> 00:47:03,900
this the following thing. At
website and Geithner says, I we

769
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:07,260
disagree. Geithner disagrees,
but it's a really, I think

770
00:47:07,260 --> 00:47:08,850
Bernanke has gotten the right
track here.

771
00:47:09,150 --> 00:47:14,490
So explain what happens. You've
mentioned this before. And just

772
00:47:14,490 --> 00:47:19,530
to clarify, what happens at the
end of this year, in terms of

773
00:47:19,530 --> 00:47:21,300
our fiscal situation?

774
00:47:22,740 --> 00:47:27,120
Well, for a number of reasons.
If under current law, if no

775
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,060
further action is taken,
there'll be what I've termed a

776
00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:35,550
fiscal cliff, on January 1 of
2013. A number of tax and other

777
00:47:35,550 --> 00:47:41,010
provisions expire, including the
Bush tax cuts, tax UI benefits,

778
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,350
and at the same time on the
spending side is the

779
00:47:43,350 --> 00:47:48,060
sequestration arising from the
failure of the supercommittee to

780
00:47:48,060 --> 00:47:51,450
agree kicks in. And if all those
things happen,

781
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,280
the sequestration that means
that doesn't mean that the

782
00:47:56,310 --> 00:47:58,410
Treasury and the Federal Reserve
just get to do whatever they

783
00:47:58,410 --> 00:47:58,860
want.

784
00:47:59,250 --> 00:48:02,610
No, no, no, this is referring to
that committee that I know, the

785
00:48:02,610 --> 00:48:05,550
whole thing the military has to
cut their spending is what it

786
00:48:05,550 --> 00:48:06,510
means Oh, okay.

787
00:48:06,570 --> 00:48:10,590
And I think that would be a very
sharp and rapid fiscal

788
00:48:10,590 --> 00:48:13,650
contraction, that would be a
serious negative for the

789
00:48:13,650 --> 00:48:17,460
recovery. I hope that Congress
will take the opportunity to

790
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,360
think through where they want
fiscal policy to go. And this

791
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,920
will be in some sense, a forcing
event.

792
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,890
So austerity too fast, and
spending, spending cuts too

793
00:48:28,890 --> 00:48:35,970
soon. And tax increases, that
would have a negative impact on

794
00:48:35,970 --> 00:48:39,270
economic growth. That's the
fiscal cliff, you're speaking of

795
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,320
a very sharp change in fiscal
stance in a short period of

796
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,720
time, would have a negative
effect on growth? Yes. Again, it

797
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,120
is important to achieve
sustainability over a longer

798
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:56,010
period. But one day is kind of a
short period to have such a big

799
00:48:56,010 --> 00:48:57,000
change in the position.

800
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,110
Secretary Geithner,

801
00:48:58,170 --> 00:49:02,100
let me ask you a question, John,
as a world renowned economist,

802
00:49:03,780 --> 00:49:09,630
should I then wait with
purchasing a home or land and

803
00:49:09,630 --> 00:49:14,070
acquiring a mortgage, but until
that 2013 moment?

804
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:19,500
Well, that vied for wanting to
get I don't think this 2013

805
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:22,590
thing is going to happen. I
mean, in terms of that every

806
00:49:22,590 --> 00:49:26,370
single January 1, the whole
place fallen apart. No you have

807
00:49:26,370 --> 00:49:29,340
to do is you got to get a good
loan at a good price at it on a

808
00:49:29,340 --> 00:49:31,740
piece of property that's
undervalued. I mean, at any

809
00:49:31,740 --> 00:49:34,410
time, it could be tomorrow, it
could be two years from now, it

810
00:49:34,410 --> 00:49:36,510
can be three years. And I mean,
that's just essentially the

811
00:49:36,510 --> 00:49:40,410
rule. And the other thing is if
you really track overall

812
00:49:40,530 --> 00:49:44,010
economic conditions with housing
prices, and you look at him and

813
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,890
there's been a lot of studies of
this, they really don't

814
00:49:46,890 --> 00:49:50,280
necessarily track together. It's
just, you know, odd that the

815
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,090
housing crisis caused his last,
you know, essential panic that

816
00:49:54,090 --> 00:49:57,360
we have right, but they don't
track together so the housing

817
00:49:57,390 --> 00:50:00,000
prices could be bottoming now
they could be bottoming later.

818
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,670
Are any are local in certain
local areas that could have

819
00:50:02,670 --> 00:50:04,590
already bottomed out? Yeah, I
think that's happened in the

820
00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:05,100
back. I

821
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:09,030
think it's happened in Austin
too, because Austin, people are

822
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:13,170
building man, this is like the
whole downtown area is just you

823
00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:16,140
know, they're gone big for the
conventions. And it's just, you

824
00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:17,430
know, it's huge. What's
happening.

825
00:50:17,460 --> 00:50:20,430
There are some parts of the
country where, where the prices

826
00:50:20,430 --> 00:50:23,340
are still going down. And I
think that's because we're

827
00:50:23,340 --> 00:50:25,830
looking at housing under horror,
which will we look at housing

828
00:50:26,010 --> 00:50:30,930
starts and housing prices and
mortgages, and the overall in

829
00:50:30,930 --> 00:50:35,490
the country is still sliding
down. But in certain areas, it's

830
00:50:35,490 --> 00:50:38,310
already picking up there's some
grim show that that sustains and

831
00:50:38,310 --> 00:50:38,970
other questions, some

832
00:50:38,970 --> 00:50:45,240
green shoots. Let me finish up
with Mickey was listening to

833
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:49,170
this shows he's off to the side.
And she is not an American yet.

834
00:50:49,620 --> 00:50:53,400
And she's, she's and her head
swings around and she says

835
00:50:53,730 --> 00:50:57,210
that's bullcrap. That's not
true. Listen to this. This is a

836
00:50:57,210 --> 00:50:58,380
part of the Barak show.

837
00:50:58,529 --> 00:51:00,329
You're the ones who deserve a
break.

838
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:04,410
You deserve a rainy day.

839
00:51:05,250 --> 00:51:08,370
So every member of Congress is
gonna go on record. And if they

840
00:51:08,370 --> 00:51:12,000
vote to keep giving tax breaks
to people like me, tax breaks

841
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,850
our country can't afford, but
they're gonna have to explain to

842
00:51:14,850 --> 00:51:16,530
you where that money comes from.

843
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:18,420
comes from that bag that

844
00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:21,870
y'all have in Congress, you can
voluntarily give more money,

845
00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:25,500
Barack Yeah, it's part of the
tax code is, well, if you really

846
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:29,640
feel bad about it, just add
another $1,000 On the bill. I

847
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,280
mean, it's not a big deal. Now
listen, to understand why

848
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,020
Buffett doesn't do that. Listen,

849
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,320
listen, see if you can catch
what swiveled, Mickey's head

850
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,190
around, either it's going

851
00:51:38,190 --> 00:51:40,560
to add to our deficit, or it's
going to come out of your

852
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,530
pocket. Seniors will have to pay
more for their Medicare

853
00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:46,770
benefits. Students will see
their interest rates go up at a

854
00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:47,880
time when they can't afford it.

855
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:50,640
By the way that's happening.
Anyway, that's happening this

856
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,460
summer, when the rates double,
we've already reported on that.

857
00:51:53,550 --> 00:51:55,980
That's going to be a fiasco. But
that's not what I'm talking

858
00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:56,280
about.

859
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:59,790
Families who are scraping by
will have to do more, because

860
00:51:59,790 --> 00:52:03,180
the richest Americans are doing
less bastards. That's not right.

861
00:52:03,930 --> 00:52:07,350
That's not who we are. In
America, our story has never

862
00:52:07,350 --> 00:52:10,500
been about what we can do by
ourselves. It's about what we

863
00:52:13,050 --> 00:52:19,830
do just like Mickey. She would
listen to it, but there's a

864
00:52:19,830 --> 00:52:20,190
second

865
00:52:20,190 --> 00:52:23,070
part to it. It's about what we
can do together.

866
00:52:23,130 --> 00:52:25,830
Oh, it's not what we can do. No,
it's not.

867
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,400
When is what is where's this
guy? What country is this guy

868
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:29,820
from?

869
00:52:33,660 --> 00:52:36,450
Let me listen to that again. No,
it's really good.

870
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,900
In America, our story has never
been about what we can do by

871
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:43,800
ourselves. It's about what we
can do together. It's about

872
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,520
believing in our future, and the
future of this country. So tell

873
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,470
your members of Congress to do
the right thing.

874
00:52:51,450 --> 00:52:54,510
At this, it's just not true.
This is the country of

875
00:52:54,510 --> 00:52:58,170
opportunity for the self made
man. Yeah, individualism who

876
00:52:58,170 --> 00:53:01,920
then hopefully treat his
employees well, you know, he

877
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,660
does great things for his
community. The Austin is built

878
00:53:06,660 --> 00:53:09,570
on Dell, and

879
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:18,180
Dell, Lance Armstrong, and Dell
Dell, capital, the government,

880
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,180
we got nothing here and there's
no oil no nothing. Yeah, the

881
00:53:21,180 --> 00:53:22,710
capital, the capital, obviously.

882
00:53:23,070 --> 00:53:26,700
But it's the University of Texas
and research. Well, UT, of

883
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:27,090
course,

884
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,110
you know, paid for Dell as well.
But yeah, that's how it's

885
00:53:31,110 --> 00:53:33,390
supposed to work. And then you
spread it around. And that's why

886
00:53:33,390 --> 00:53:38,160
we have 5% official number
unemployment here in Austin. And

887
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,900
everyone's No, there's no there
are guys at the stoplights. But

888
00:53:42,930 --> 00:53:46,530
we don't really have homeless
that I've seen and I've looked

889
00:53:46,530 --> 00:53:49,470
around I'm sure we have some
tent camps somewhere that just

890
00:53:49,470 --> 00:53:53,130
haven't found yet. But it's much
better than most of the country

891
00:53:53,130 --> 00:53:59,310
is a lot better than Spain. But
to say that we're not about one

892
00:53:59,310 --> 00:54:02,160
guy know what this makes no
sense. That's why people come

893
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,780
here. I go to America, I can
work my butt off and I can I can

894
00:54:06,810 --> 00:54:07,170
Yeah, they

895
00:54:07,170 --> 00:54:10,710
don't come to America to join a
collective to become a member of

896
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:11,580
a kibbutz

897
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:18,300
Hey, man, we need to thank some
producers, because we are just

898
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:22,830
scraping by. But every single
morning, Miss Mickey and I wake

899
00:54:22,830 --> 00:54:27,390
up and we go, man, how awesome
is it? We get to do what we want

900
00:54:27,390 --> 00:54:30,420
to do and you don't have a suit
telling you what to do. Yeah,

901
00:54:30,450 --> 00:54:33,900
thank you and like Keith
Olbermann who just got fired.

902
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,580
Gee, how predictable was that?
Yeah, it's pretty predictable.

903
00:54:38,580 --> 00:54:41,670
He's got either has to go on his
own or he's gonna just get keep

904
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:44,100
getting fired. Yeah, well, he
takes a lot of guts. I don't

905
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:45,720
think he's got the nerve to go
on and his own.

906
00:54:46,109 --> 00:54:49,019
No, like, oh, my gosh, John like
us. Is that what you're saying?

907
00:54:49,019 --> 00:54:49,769
Like us?

908
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,640
Exactly. I think we have a big
problem. I think our producers

909
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,730
that help us and cluding at the
top of the list today they are

910
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:01,260
executive producer Rubio Spice
Company. Hey, no I helped you

911
00:55:01,260 --> 00:55:04,530
make the cut off of April Fool's
show up and the road heading to

912
00:55:04,530 --> 00:55:07,680
a big meeting with Costco,
Costco, Mexico.

913
00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:10,500
Border Manyana Hold on a second
whereas

914
00:55:13,170 --> 00:55:16,290
I'd love some meeting karma in
hopes that the marketing leads

915
00:55:16,290 --> 00:55:19,680
to Costco buying grillers rub
which is the rub is the stuff

916
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,710
you like. Yeah, right cool. It's
great good. I'm going to talk to

917
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:24,750
these guys some more because I'd
like to get him to do a couple

918
00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:29,190
of the things there was a when I
one of my favorite steak

919
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:32,100
seasoning you know steak
seasoning is really sketchy most

920
00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:34,950
of its crap and it's big chunks
of stuff is terrible.

921
00:55:34,980 --> 00:55:38,460
I got the guy here at the at the
at the market. He makes his own

922
00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:43,380
with his own homegrown cocoa
beans. He makes a rub with a

923
00:55:43,380 --> 00:55:44,580
it's pretty outstanding.

924
00:55:45,330 --> 00:55:48,030
Okay, well, I'm gonna get back
to the I'm talking about steak

925
00:55:48,030 --> 00:55:53,730
seasoning. Not a problem. Sorry.
And there used to be a I mean, I

926
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,020
taste I check all these these,
you know these spices that are

927
00:55:58,020 --> 00:56:03,300
blended all the time. The end
and the Winn Dixie stores in the

928
00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:07,770
south used to carry a line. I
think they still carried a lot.

929
00:56:07,770 --> 00:56:10,380
I think they may be phasing out
they bought a Spice Company

930
00:56:10,380 --> 00:56:13,740
called Astor. And they had a
steak seasoning that was

931
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,940
absolutely phenomenal for steaks
and chicken and everything else

932
00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:21,510
and they kind of discontinued it
because I guess well, at some

933
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:24,390
point, the rumor is that they
were grinding a bunch of this

934
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:27,600
stuff up and I guess one of the
machines grinding machines fell

935
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:32,430
apart and most of the steak
seasoning was metal filings.

936
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,080
I can make that. And apparently

937
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,170
the whole thing a bad
reputation.

938
00:56:40,860 --> 00:56:43,140
Other stuff other stuff like
silica.

939
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,910
I think that if we can get the
Rubio Spice Company to isolate

940
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:50,400
that formula, they think they'd
be onto something but anyway,

941
00:56:50,430 --> 00:56:50,790
Hey,

942
00:56:50,850 --> 00:56:53,970
can I just say I'd love to try
some of the Rubio spice so maybe

943
00:56:53,970 --> 00:56:57,120
it can shoot? Yeah, I'd love to
try it you kidding me? Yeah, you

944
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,580
know that becomes a big
contenders good for like, you

945
00:56:59,580 --> 00:57:03,990
know, 20 racks of ribs quite a
bit. Anyway, thanks as always

946
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:07,650
for the great part of the best
podcast in universe and you got

947
00:57:07,650 --> 00:57:08,250
your shameless

948
00:57:08,820 --> 00:57:11,220
plug there apparently. And then
a little bit of karma Hold on a

949
00:57:11,220 --> 00:57:15,240
second meeting karma for you
meeting karma. You've got karma.

950
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,850
Ryan Benson and Tampa, Florida
$330 and other executive

951
00:57:20,850 --> 00:57:23,310
producer thanks for the greatest
podcast in university shows.

952
00:57:24,060 --> 00:57:29,040
Such a welcome light of honest
intelligence in a dark world of

953
00:57:29,070 --> 00:57:34,470
ignorance and media manipulation
somehow even make the depressing

954
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:38,790
news and analysis funny and
entertaining. Yeah. Hey, no,

955
00:57:38,820 --> 00:57:41,580
this douchebag has been
listening for years now never

956
00:57:41,580 --> 00:57:46,230
donated please consider this my
Mia culpa and de douche me. I'm

957
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:48,870
turning 30 on April 2, could you
and we got him on the birthday

958
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:51,240
list. Want to add that? I think
there's a great argument

959
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,190
favorite your donation model
that I'm not sure you ever

960
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:55,290
mentioned on the air, many shows
develop a core audience that

961
00:57:55,290 --> 00:57:59,070
loves them. And then the the
when they go to advertising,

962
00:57:59,070 --> 00:58:02,220
they bend to the pressure to
widen their demographics to get

963
00:58:02,220 --> 00:58:05,700
more advertisers, which you have
to do. And this almost always

964
00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:08,820
waters down to programming. So
it's crap. And it turns out, you

965
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:11,640
start to suck. That's exactly
Oh, agenda will never do this.

966
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,880
If people like us continue to
help keep you on the air. That's

967
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:16,980
$30 from Ryan de douching.

968
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,820
You've been de deuced

969
00:58:23,130 --> 00:58:27,750
Mark Randles here for I think,
let me just take one quick look.

970
00:58:28,740 --> 00:58:31,410
No note. I don't see a note.
Yeah, you know, he may have

971
00:58:31,410 --> 00:58:35,370
said something. I'm just gonna
take a quick look into the into

972
00:58:35,370 --> 00:58:35,880
the

973
00:58:35,940 --> 00:58:38,250
while you're doing that. Let me
mention everybody that the cut

974
00:58:38,250 --> 00:58:44,220
off time for donations for the
show itself. Is Is it midnight?

975
00:58:44,220 --> 00:58:45,300
The day before, John?

976
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:51,900
Yeah. And the reason for that is
a bow basically. Yeah, well,

977
00:58:51,900 --> 00:58:54,990
what happens on Thursday in
particular, they and I talked to

978
00:58:54,990 --> 00:58:57,600
by the way, we've got a new we
have concerns. We have some

979
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,750
papers, I wrote some column. So
the Pay Pal people contacted me

980
00:59:00,750 --> 00:59:02,880
and they said they gave us a
whole bunch a team of people

981
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,710
that will help us and we have
oh, you you wrote

982
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:07,170
about Pay Pal sucking? Yeah,
yeah.

983
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,860
And so suddenly, we didn't get
attention in this world. Yeah.

984
00:59:10,890 --> 00:59:14,970
And so they told me that they do
a lot of maintenance on

985
00:59:14,970 --> 00:59:18,150
Thursday, and it causes some
some difficulty getting

986
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:22,230
downloads. And so we ran into
the situation where we would ask

987
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:24,930
for the downloads of the
contributors on Thursday

988
00:59:24,930 --> 00:59:27,300
morning, and we wouldn't get it
in time for the show.

989
00:59:27,330 --> 00:59:29,790
So they kindly offered to move
their maintenance window to a

990
00:59:29,790 --> 00:59:31,410
different guy. They're not
changing anything.

991
00:59:31,470 --> 00:59:34,140
Oh, really. But so we're gonna
continue doing

992
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,630
and you have a whole team. You
have a team leader and

993
00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:41,100
everything. It really is you
hot. It's a bunch of guys, but a

994
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:42,270
bunch of bunch of nerds.

995
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,770
Anyway, Michael Randall in
Halifax, Nova Scotia 233 32. He

996
00:59:46,770 --> 00:59:51,900
sends a note in I'm recent
political science graduate and

997
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:54,660
started listening since January
now you've convinced me the US

998
00:59:54,660 --> 00:59:57,120
and China in the middle of a
cold war with the US attacking

999
00:59:57,330 --> 01:00:00,510
on the pipeline front and China
attacking on the side breakfront

1000
01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:03,450
I am a first time donor with
like a shot of karma and a de

1001
01:00:03,450 --> 01:00:09,090
douche bag and a douche bag my
friend Miles. Miles who has been

1002
01:00:09,090 --> 01:00:12,120
listening longer than me but
never donated Can I also get a

1003
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,850
podcast license for the best
Canadian podcast background

1004
01:00:14,850 --> 01:00:19,500
noise can be found in background
noise.ca. I would highly

1005
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:21,870
recommend it to all the slaves
out there happy to support the

1006
01:00:21,870 --> 01:00:23,310
best podcast in the universe.

1007
01:00:24,510 --> 01:00:27,150
You got it. Thank you so much
for your support. You've got

1008
01:00:27,330 --> 01:00:27,990
karma

1009
01:00:30,780 --> 01:00:36,060
to 3332 then we have Ryan bird.
No, no, no,

1010
01:00:36,060 --> 01:00:37,080
Tyler Crothers.

1011
01:00:37,110 --> 01:00:40,680
Oh, I'm sorry. Went down too
far, sorry, Tyler, Crothers,

1012
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,650
Lincoln, Nebraska. 233. What's
up, John. And I've just got the

1013
01:00:43,650 --> 01:00:46,140
no agenda email today about the
Google throwing all the emails

1014
01:00:46,170 --> 01:00:49,080
that we had at mailing last
week, and it was going to

1015
01:00:49,290 --> 01:00:53,010
explain on this show. So I had
to send out another mailing tab.

1016
01:00:53,010 --> 01:00:57,810
People look in there because we
got like 15 to 20% response non

1017
01:00:57,810 --> 01:01:01,800
responses. We never get that
much. We got about 15 to 20%

1018
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,680
people open the email that was
extremely low because we

1019
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,470
normally have 60. And I think
there's still a lot of spam

1020
01:01:07,470 --> 01:01:11,520
problems. So I've isolated what
it wasn't as kind of a weird

1021
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,820
bug. But it's in the Google spam
filters.

1022
01:01:14,850 --> 01:01:18,930
Let me guess. If you use Google
Payments, your emails don't go

1023
01:01:18,930 --> 01:01:22,590
to spam. If you use PayPal link,
your stuff goes to spam. Is that

1024
01:01:22,590 --> 01:01:23,790
an educated guess?

1025
01:01:23,850 --> 01:01:27,270
That's a good good, good
attempt. No, actually, what it

1026
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:32,280
was is, it's weird. I had always
been running the mailings that

1027
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,210
we do, we run the mail mainly
through MailChimp. And

1028
01:01:36,210 --> 01:01:40,170
MailChimp. If you want to see
what people are clicking on

1029
01:01:40,170 --> 01:01:42,300
because you put a bunch of links
in your mail saying and I want

1030
01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:45,930
you to check this out. Check
that out. You tell MailChimp to

1031
01:01:45,930 --> 01:01:49,800
track the clicks. And in so
doing they do have one of these

1032
01:01:49,830 --> 01:01:52,560
forwarding things where they
were the when you click on

1033
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,270
somebody actually goes to
MailChimp, then it gets

1034
01:01:54,270 --> 01:01:57,270
forwarded to the real link, you
know that? What's it called a

1035
01:01:57,270 --> 01:02:01,920
forwarding or it's called like,
as a word phishing. No, it's not

1036
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,820
phishing, it actually could be
construed as such, I suppose.

1037
01:02:05,970 --> 01:02:09,480
But anyway, no, it's it's a way
to it's only way you can track

1038
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:14,310
to tracking mechanism, right? So
every link would be it comes

1039
01:02:14,310 --> 01:02:17,370
from MailChimp, because that
mail delivery service in every

1040
01:02:17,370 --> 01:02:20,520
link would have MailChimp,
MailChimp, MailChimp, then then

1041
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:26,190
a forwarding link. This time I
said, you know what's it's

1042
01:02:26,190 --> 01:02:29,190
probably going to cost abusers
and millisecond as to go this

1043
01:02:29,190 --> 01:02:32,400
roundabout way. Because I was
playing with it earlier in the

1044
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,010
day, and it was seems to be
delaying as MailChimp was

1045
01:02:35,010 --> 01:02:39,000
burdened or something. So I
killed that I didn't want I

1046
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,240
didn't factor why bother
tracking the clicks that, you

1047
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,200
know, just give the people the
straight link that got me

1048
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,340
spammed, and I think it's really
Yes. And I said, Here's what my

1049
01:02:50,340 --> 01:02:55,290
explanation is, by reverse
engineering the process. Google

1050
01:02:55,290 --> 01:03:00,030
knows that male chimps, very
rigid company, they don't if

1051
01:03:00,030 --> 01:03:04,080
they hit you know, you, somebody
unsubscribes they never you if

1052
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,780
you unsubscribe to this list,
you will never get back on it.

1053
01:03:06,930 --> 01:03:09,870
MailChimp will just not let it
happen. Right? MailChimp is

1054
01:03:09,870 --> 01:03:13,170
really good about spam and they
test they do testing they have

1055
01:03:13,170 --> 01:03:16,920
all these things. So if it comes
from MailChimp, it's probably a

1056
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,850
legitimate mail. Google Mail
knows this. And then when they

1057
01:03:20,850 --> 01:03:23,250
go down the line they see
MailChimp, MailChimp, MailChimp,

1058
01:03:23,250 --> 01:03:26,340
MailChimp, because those are all
the 40s they say yeah, it's

1059
01:03:26,370 --> 01:03:31,020
typical of the of a MailChimp
mailing because everybody does

1060
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:36,300
this. passes it through. I by
being a smartass killed the

1061
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,290
forwarding thing. And so it was
coming from MailChimp, but every

1062
01:03:40,290 --> 01:03:43,830
link was like duh, duh, duh, no
agenda show to your direct links

1063
01:03:43,830 --> 01:03:46,800
to all these different things,
right? Uh huh. Google looks at

1064
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:56,850
that. Oh yeah. And they killed
me. So us, us they killed us.

1065
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:02,970
Well, he killed me because it's
my fault. Erin, luckily, really,

1066
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:06,330
they killed me Yeah, but anyway,
they killed our mailing and

1067
01:04:06,330 --> 01:04:08,940
attended people and there was
mostly Google downloads a few

1068
01:04:08,940 --> 01:04:10,980
other guys but that was the
reason it's because that's the

1069
01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:12,300
only thing I did different so

1070
01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:17,850
every single show notes for
every episode has an RSS link to

1071
01:04:17,850 --> 01:04:20,550
the newsletter and that's the
best way to get it I guess we

1072
01:04:20,550 --> 01:04:24,690
can't track it until we don't
know it who opened or not. But

1073
01:04:24,690 --> 01:04:27,240
it just proves that email is
broken and yet you wrote another

1074
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,050
column about email which I saw
was pretty interesting. But I

1075
01:04:31,050 --> 01:04:33,960
would recommend you subscribe to
the RSS link for the newsletter

1076
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,390
and screw the tracking we just
want you to get the information

1077
01:04:36,660 --> 01:04:37,920
alright let's move on because

1078
01:04:38,340 --> 01:04:40,890
sorry about that it's a bag
promised a bunch of people that

1079
01:04:40,890 --> 01:04:43,530
I tell him what happened all we
know if you're going to use

1080
01:04:43,530 --> 01:04:46,320
MailChimp now you know that that
little don't do that. Yeah,

1081
01:04:46,620 --> 01:04:51,300
right. Don't Don't Don't be
smart. Anyway, so watch Crothers

1082
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,880
I got the no agenda, email and
he saw the bottom and said our

1083
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,540
phone number he called me. So
anyway, that was and you

1084
01:04:57,540 --> 01:05:01,470
answered Yeah. Don't encourage
it.

1085
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:04,440
He said I called it Holy shit.
It's really John on the other

1086
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,790
end of the line. I thought that
was cool as hell. Hey, who's

1087
01:05:08,790 --> 01:05:15,690
donating $233? Hey, new
promotion costs I talked to John

1088
01:05:15,930 --> 01:05:20,970
at Dr. John get some wine
advice. Talk about Costco. Talk

1089
01:05:20,970 --> 01:05:26,160
about meat rubs. Rub your meat
with John for 233 bucks. This is

1090
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,840
a new promotion. I'm feeling it.

1091
01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:33,870
And Ryan bird jet and Oh,
Seattle, Washington $200.01.

1092
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,930
Well, apparently I'm an idiot
was unable to actually make this

1093
01:05:36,930 --> 01:05:40,320
donation on time with the show.
Hope you still read my note.

1094
01:05:40,890 --> 01:05:47,100
Okay. Keep informing us drones.
Danny Baker in Morristown,

1095
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:49,950
Tennessee. $200, requesting
karma for my step niece,

1096
01:05:49,950 --> 01:05:53,730
Heather, who has been diagnosed
with Stage Two cancer Yikes, at

1097
01:05:53,730 --> 01:05:55,410
the age of 21. That's terrible.

1098
01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:59,250
Anti hate cancer karma. You got
karma.

1099
01:06:00,810 --> 01:06:04,710
And we want to thank all those
contributors that especially the

1100
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:09,270
executive producers, Associate
Executive producers for show 396

1101
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:12,420
I want to remind you go to no
agenda show.com no agenda

1102
01:06:12,420 --> 01:06:18,270
nation.com. Divorce act.org/n, a
and child of org.com/na. And

1103
01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:23,400
keep us going here. Do we need
your help.org/n?

1104
01:06:23,460 --> 01:06:28,620
A? That's right. We definitely
do need your help. And before we

1105
01:06:28,620 --> 01:06:32,550
move on, just a few PR mentions,
we still have people now

1106
01:06:32,550 --> 01:06:35,550
understanding that we'd rather
have you send us the money or

1107
01:06:35,550 --> 01:06:39,510
get a $5 month subscription. We
have more than enough domain

1108
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:45,450
names. But I still will will
mention that I do like what CS

1109
01:06:45,450 --> 01:06:48,300
had. He says I've had this
around for a while. I know

1110
01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:50,940
you're stopping with it. But I
think it'd be good if we forward

1111
01:06:50,940 --> 01:06:55,860
this to no agenda show.com
Romney sucks.org, which is

1112
01:06:55,860 --> 01:06:59,280
pretty good. And I think we'll
be able to remember a nice

1113
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,190
site that we should be able to
sell to someone else. Now here's

1114
01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:03,270
some money. Yeah.

1115
01:07:03,540 --> 01:07:07,320
Here's what I like. This is the
kind of promotion a PR

1116
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,350
initiatives that I think are
really good. Do you recall John,

1117
01:07:10,350 --> 01:07:16,320
we talked about Ken sunshine. On
the previous episode. Yes, I can

1118
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:22,080
sunshine. Yes, he is the he's
the guy who does all the PR for

1119
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,560
all the top celebrities. Do you
remember we talked about his

1120
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,760
wiki page? How there was like
almost no entry and yeah, it was

1121
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,450
he was he has been? Yeah,
doggone it.

1122
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,600
Yeah. Why don't you go to his
wiki page and read for me the

1123
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,030
last paragraph, there's only
three paragraphs.

1124
01:07:40,830 --> 01:07:42,660
I'm already guessing what it
might be.

1125
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:49,320
It's a great PR move. Check it
out. And it's been up for like

1126
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,330
three days so you know this guy
will

1127
01:07:51,780 --> 01:07:54,090
probably get get rid of it
shortly. Let me

1128
01:07:56,490 --> 01:07:57,390
go ahead read it.

1129
01:07:57,540 --> 01:08:04,170
Okay. So goes on. He's got three
grasses third graph says he was

1130
01:08:04,170 --> 01:08:06,990
featured on no agenda show in
2012. And a controversial

1131
01:08:06,990 --> 01:08:10,590
episode was Adam curry described
him as quote a douchebag.

1132
01:08:10,620 --> 01:08:12,690
Which, by the way, I didn't do
because I listened to the

1133
01:08:12,690 --> 01:08:14,730
episode, but that's okay. We
like it.

1134
01:08:14,850 --> 01:08:17,400
Yeah, you didn't do that. That's
probably good. Since you don't

1135
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,520
want to be douche douching
everybody doesn't know anything.

1136
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:24,240
Especially don't get the
concept. No comment has yet been

1137
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,540
made by a red representative of
the no agenda show as the basis

1138
01:08:27,540 --> 01:08:30,120
of these remarks. The
controversy has sparked

1139
01:08:30,210 --> 01:08:32,850
conversation about freedom of
speech and podcasting and

1140
01:08:32,850 --> 01:08:37,410
liability. But where's our link
down at the bottom under

1141
01:08:37,410 --> 01:08:38,220
references?

1142
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:41,070
That's the only thing that
didn't work out too well for us.

1143
01:08:41,490 --> 01:08:43,950
Yeah, but someone can put the
link in I mean, come on. It's a

1144
01:08:43,950 --> 01:08:44,490
wiki.

1145
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,910
And by the way, when you put
these in no agenda show has a

1146
01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:51,630
wiki page. So you can put a you
can highlight that with a

1147
01:08:51,630 --> 01:08:55,440
forwarding link. Oh, that's
right. In the in the Wikipedia.

1148
01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:59,880
Yeah, curry does too. So you can
highlight his name that you just

1149
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,590
put I forget what is the method
for that?

1150
01:09:02,550 --> 01:09:04,920
I'm not sure there's a wiki page
for douchebag

1151
01:09:05,729 --> 01:09:08,909
that let me since I didn't put
this in and it's got nothing to

1152
01:09:08,909 --> 01:09:12,449
do with me. I'm going to stay
away stay away. Stay No, I'm

1153
01:09:12,449 --> 01:09:16,259
gonna put this now watch this.
Watch this. Watch how easy this

1154
01:09:16,259 --> 01:09:16,529
is.

1155
01:09:18,420 --> 01:09:20,520
Isn't you do it like in quotes
or something?

1156
01:09:20,580 --> 01:09:22,290
No, no, two two brackets.

1157
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:24,059
Who brackets? Okay,

1158
01:09:24,090 --> 01:09:26,850
I'm refreshing a break here.
Just take me one second to get

1159
01:09:27,540 --> 01:09:34,050
on. Top booth Holly algea Chica
ching ching. Let me just show

1160
01:09:34,050 --> 01:09:36,180
preview so I make sure I didn't
screw it out. I

1161
01:09:36,180 --> 01:09:39,090
don't see it, man. It's not come
with just previewing it right

1162
01:09:39,090 --> 01:09:39,300
now. I'm

1163
01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:43,380
looking at okay. Oh, no agenda
show. What? Wait, wait, what's

1164
01:09:43,380 --> 01:09:45,810
it go to the wiki page for no
agenda show and see how that's

1165
01:09:45,810 --> 01:09:49,350
what happens here. One second.
Just go to the no agenda show

1166
01:09:49,350 --> 01:09:52,680
thing. I'm glad one word is one
word.

1167
01:09:53,069 --> 01:09:56,219
I'm going I'm going I'm going it
says that says the page does not

1168
01:09:56,219 --> 01:09:58,799
exist. No space agenda.

1169
01:09:59,250 --> 01:10:01,200
No space. Ace agenda.

1170
01:10:03,090 --> 01:10:08,640
No, no underscore agenda is the
URL. But the it doesn't say no

1171
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,000
agenda podcast just has no
agenda. We are the Wikipedia

1172
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,260
entry for no agenda.

1173
01:10:14,639 --> 01:10:17,519
Okay, hold on a second. Let me
get this fixed. Take a second.

1174
01:10:17,580 --> 01:10:19,470
Someone else in the chat room
was gonna do it before you're

1175
01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:20,550
even done with Oh, no, I'm

1176
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:22,200
doing it. Now. If they're
getting there, they're gonna be

1177
01:10:22,230 --> 01:10:25,500
messing with me over rucious.
And I'm only I'm just being

1178
01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:29,550
cautious here because I'm on the
air. Otherwise, I just save

1179
01:10:29,550 --> 01:10:32,250
page. I never really do this
much extra work.

1180
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:36,450
It was already it

1181
01:10:36,450 --> 01:10:38,640
was okay. We're ready to go.
Hold on. We're gonna post it.

1182
01:10:38,970 --> 01:10:39,390
All right.

1183
01:10:39,420 --> 01:10:41,130
I'm refreshing. I'm looking. I

1184
01:10:41,130 --> 01:10:45,840
showed up. Just going to save
now. Save, save. Oh, yay. Good

1185
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:46,470
job.

1186
01:10:46,710 --> 01:10:51,390
You got no agenda and Adam curry
are both very good. Very good,

1187
01:10:51,390 --> 01:10:55,590
John. Very good. Very good.
That's how you do it. Ladies,

1188
01:10:55,980 --> 01:10:57,480
real time. All right.

1189
01:10:57,570 --> 01:11:02,610
Thank you for this instructional
lesson. So thanks to our

1190
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,680
executive producers, our
Associate Executive producers,

1191
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,990
these are actual credits. And
you see that you can actually

1192
01:11:06,990 --> 01:11:10,590
call and have someone vouch for
you, me or John. You can just

1193
01:11:10,590 --> 01:11:11,520
call John.

1194
01:11:12,150 --> 01:11:15,480
Just call do is call column. And
of course you

1195
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,870
go out and propagate our ever
important formula. Our formula

1196
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:22,830
is this. We go out. We hit
people in the mouth.

1197
01:11:32,670 --> 01:11:35,130
Sam Woodman shut offs.

1198
01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:42,000
And Tyler Crothers says, Hey,
man, I spoke to John, I sent you

1199
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:49,800
on 33 bucks. But I didn't get no
karma. Alright, man. You've got

1200
01:11:49,950 --> 01:11:53,430
karma. I don't think it was
actually in his No. I didn't see

1201
01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:56,610
it. I didn't see it in this
note, but that's okay. All

1202
01:11:56,610 --> 01:12:00,420
right. He said he sent me an
email real time. Here we go. I

1203
01:12:00,420 --> 01:12:02,610
don't I do not see the word
karma in his note.

1204
01:12:02,940 --> 01:12:07,140
No. You don't just get caught
up. We got to be a little more

1205
01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:07,680
judicious.

1206
01:12:08,460 --> 01:12:09,900
Can I have a Karma shot now?

1207
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,990
shushing Janelle are douchebags,
yes. For karma shot,

1208
01:12:12,990 --> 01:12:18,660
it's in the note I see it now.
Okay. So hi, right. Onward. Gah,

1209
01:12:18,660 --> 01:12:22,560
right. Good onward. Yes. Since
you have 8 million things to

1210
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,060
share with us today wanted to

1211
01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:27,990
hit that many tenure close my
email box was come up with

1212
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:31,800
something does that mean? I
mean, I went to the wiki page, I

1213
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,520
shut down my email and I gotta
go back to it. Here it is. So

1214
01:12:35,550 --> 01:12:40,590
I'm a person of interest. I got
this clip from a number of

1215
01:12:40,590 --> 01:12:42,630
producers who were kind enough
to clip it for me it's great

1216
01:12:42,630 --> 01:12:46,440
because I don't watch this
program. Great show. Well, did

1217
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:49,950
you see the most recent episode
Apparently, some something very

1218
01:12:49,950 --> 01:12:53,190
interesting. As you know, we
always talk about how Facebook

1219
01:12:53,190 --> 01:12:55,290
is not only invested in

1220
01:12:55,290 --> 01:12:58,080
that I did see this and I didn't
think it clipping it but it's

1221
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,490
pretty funny. Yeah, I got

1222
01:12:59,490 --> 01:13:02,790
the clip. So Facebook, of
course, partially funded by in Q

1223
01:13:02,790 --> 01:13:07,860
tel a CIA investment, venture
capital investment firm. We know

1224
01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:11,820
from the Time magazine article,
when Mark Zuckerberg was being

1225
01:13:11,820 --> 01:13:16,920
interviewed on the cover of Time
Magazine, The Mueller, the

1226
01:13:16,950 --> 01:13:19,260
director of the FBI stuck his
head around the corner said hey,

1227
01:13:19,260 --> 01:13:21,570
I'm just in the building hanging
out. Just wanted to say hi.

1228
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,090
Like, yeah, that's what the
director of the FBI is

1229
01:13:24,090 --> 01:13:26,760
just hanging out at Facebook.
Yeah, it's just the funniest

1230
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:27,270
story.

1231
01:13:27,330 --> 01:13:32,610
And so the Person of Interest
pick this up and helped us out

1232
01:13:32,610 --> 01:13:35,790
just by basically rewriting
everything you've heard on this

1233
01:13:35,790 --> 01:13:36,090
show.

1234
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:42,480
Good morning, Mr. is, if you say
so. And cookie are in there, if

1235
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:43,260
that's a doughnut,

1236
01:13:43,650 --> 01:13:44,340
and yes.

1237
01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:50,010
What do we got? Nothing much.
Unfortunately, the machine

1238
01:13:50,010 --> 01:13:52,110
kicked out a number that has one
of the smallest digital

1239
01:13:52,110 --> 01:13:57,960
footprints I've ever seen. No
photos. Not everyone in New York

1240
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,260
has a driver's license. Mr.
Reese. First three digits of the

1241
01:14:01,260 --> 01:14:04,890
social suggests that Jordan
Hester was born in Georgia. I'm

1242
01:14:04,890 --> 01:14:08,490
supposed to recognize him by his
or her. I can't even verify the

1243
01:14:08,490 --> 01:14:12,810
gender histories living off the
grid off the photos online and

1244
01:14:12,810 --> 01:14:15,540
nothing on the social networking
sites. I never understood why

1245
01:14:15,540 --> 01:14:19,320
people put all their information
on the site is to make our job a

1246
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,560
lot easier in the CIA. Of
course, that's why I created

1247
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,130
them. You're telling me you
invented online social

1248
01:14:26,130 --> 01:14:29,640
networking fetch. The machine
needed more information.

1249
01:14:31,020 --> 01:14:34,140
people's social graph their
associations, a government have

1250
01:14:34,140 --> 01:14:37,050
been trying to figure it out for
years. Turns out most people

1251
01:14:37,050 --> 01:14:40,080
were happy to volunteer it.
Business wound up being quite

1252
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:44,250
profitable. Unfortunately,
Jordan Hester seems to be more

1253
01:14:44,250 --> 01:14:45,480
cautious than most.

1254
01:14:47,190 --> 01:14:50,580
The machine needed more
information. We had to feed the

1255
01:14:50,580 --> 01:14:54,510
machine I mean, even put social
graph in there and fantastic.

1256
01:14:54,780 --> 01:15:01,170
Yeah. I think there's some sick
truth to it. No, no. doll This

1257
01:15:01,170 --> 01:15:04,860
is the same show that we had we
took a clip from recently where

1258
01:15:04,860 --> 01:15:07,920
they were the CIA was running
the drug business. Yeah,

1259
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,070
these guys have right. Whoever's
writing the show Good on you

1260
01:15:11,220 --> 01:15:14,130
enjoy the superior. They donate
some time. Well, yeah,

1261
01:15:14,490 --> 01:15:17,850
yeah. JJ Abrams and Chris Nolan
are the two guys.

1262
01:15:19,109 --> 01:15:26,759
Send us some money. So while
we're on this quick like nine

1263
01:15:26,759 --> 01:15:31,889
second clip from Congressman
Mike Rogers, he is from I think,

1264
01:15:31,889 --> 01:15:37,259
Michigan. And he ratcheted up
the cyber attacks, scare

1265
01:15:37,259 --> 01:15:38,549
tactics. Cyber

1266
01:15:38,580 --> 01:15:44,400
attack is on its way. We will
suffer a catastrophic cyber

1267
01:15:44,430 --> 01:15:44,970
attack,

1268
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:50,130
the clock is ticking. clock is
ticking. We're all going to die.

1269
01:15:50,130 --> 01:15:51,180
We're all going to die.

1270
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:58,440
Now I thought that was the clock
is ticking. Hey, just disconnect

1271
01:15:58,440 --> 01:16:01,920
all that crap from the internet.
You don't need it. And it's not

1272
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:07,470
that hard. Now this this guy,
the director of cyber, I don't

1273
01:16:07,470 --> 01:16:11,160
was official title is the cyber
counterintelligence, I guess

1274
01:16:11,220 --> 01:16:14,340
from the FBI. His name is Shawn
Henry. And you could actually

1275
01:16:14,340 --> 01:16:16,860
see this while of course, I have
the link in the show notes. 306

1276
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:20,880
na schoenaerts.com. But it's
proudly prominently presented on

1277
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:25,050
the FBI homepage fbi.gov. Sean
Henry is leaving for an

1278
01:16:25,050 --> 01:16:29,760
undisclosed position at an
undisclosed security company,

1279
01:16:30,060 --> 01:16:34,950
Salesforce, Salesforce,
Salesforce. And he of course,

1280
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:37,920
couldn't just leave the
organization without a video

1281
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:43,980
interview. And he was saying
some stuff, man, these FBI guys,

1282
01:16:43,980 --> 01:16:47,370
I mean, there's Edgar Hoover's
still all over this

1283
01:16:47,370 --> 01:16:51,690
organization, because he's
insane. Listen, listen to what

1284
01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:52,200
he says.

1285
01:16:52,980 --> 01:16:55,500
three primary actors are actors.

1286
01:16:55,500 --> 01:16:58,860
It's all actors. By the way.
This thing does actors thing is

1287
01:16:58,860 --> 01:17:02,940
bugging me. It really is because
they should choose a different

1288
01:17:02,940 --> 01:17:03,300
word.

1289
01:17:04,590 --> 01:17:05,430
I can barely hear it,

1290
01:17:05,850 --> 01:17:08,490
threatening primarily the
financial services sector, but

1291
01:17:08,490 --> 01:17:13,050
more and more, they're expanding
the scope of their attack. state

1292
01:17:13,050 --> 01:17:18,300
sponsored foreign governments
that are interested in filtering

1293
01:17:18,900 --> 01:17:21,720
data, including intellectual
property and research and

1294
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,560
development data from major
manufacturers, from government

1295
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,970
agencies, from defense
contractors, and increasingly

1296
01:17:29,970 --> 01:17:33,300
there are terrorist groups who
want to impact this country the

1297
01:17:33,300 --> 01:17:36,750
same way they did 10 years ago
by flying planes into buildings,

1298
01:17:36,750 --> 01:17:37,680
and they're looking at how,

1299
01:17:39,180 --> 01:17:43,710
wait a minute. Now he's telling
me that al Qaeda is the same

1300
01:17:43,710 --> 01:17:47,280
guys. He just said that, who
flew airplanes in the buildings.

1301
01:17:47,550 --> 01:17:51,060
Now they want to do cyber
attacks

1302
01:17:53,550 --> 01:17:56,880
in Western society, by looking
at critical infrastructure,

1303
01:17:58,110 --> 01:18:01,980
disrupt ability of

1304
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:06,300
that's not even the worst clip
you've ever played. It's not

1305
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:10,350
even his jurisdiction, your
clip, what's wrong with my clip,

1306
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:10,620
and

1307
01:18:12,300 --> 01:18:14,580
where you can barely hear it?
And it sounds like it's out of

1308
01:18:14,580 --> 01:18:15,180
phase.

1309
01:18:15,630 --> 01:18:17,550
Well, it might be something
through Skype because it sounds

1310
01:18:17,550 --> 01:18:21,900
good here. Well, just for your
enjoyment, I have another one.

1311
01:18:22,530 --> 01:18:26,640
And this is something I did not
know attention. Producers in

1312
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,550
Gitmo nation, low lands,
Attention, attention people in

1313
01:18:29,550 --> 01:18:32,220
the Netherlands. This should
make you worried,

1314
01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:36,480
actually stationed FBI agents
overseas into the police

1315
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:41,400
agencies. A number of countries
including Ukraine, Romania,

1316
01:18:45,090 --> 01:18:49,020
Estonia, these are not people
that are assigned to the embassy

1317
01:18:49,020 --> 01:18:52,560
as liaison officers. These are
actual FBI agents who are

1318
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:57,330
working 100% of their time in
cyberspace against cyber actors.

1319
01:18:57,780 --> 01:19:02,010
And they are sitting side by
side with their colleagues in

1320
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,230
the national police agencies of
those countries.

1321
01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:09,300
Now, I didn't know that. I can
hear it. That's very weird.

1322
01:19:10,410 --> 01:19:16,050
Anyway, what he said is that
they have FBI cyber agents in

1323
01:19:16,140 --> 01:19:19,650
many countries, including the
Netherlands who sit side by side

1324
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:25,740
in the police station, the FBI.
That's not their job. CIA Yeah,

1325
01:19:25,740 --> 01:19:29,610
maybe. But the FBI sitting in
the Netherlands?

1326
01:19:29,670 --> 01:19:32,130
Yeah, there was a bit remember a
couple of years ago when there

1327
01:19:32,130 --> 01:19:36,000
was some other weird incidents
world incidents all of a sudden

1328
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:43,050
they called the FBI in to
overseas Yeah, it's weird. It's

1329
01:19:43,050 --> 01:19:45,420
been going on for a while but
I'm not absolutely sure what

1330
01:19:45,630 --> 01:19:50,370
what jurisdiction or what might
I don't even know what why it

1331
01:19:50,370 --> 01:19:53,940
makes it like I said, you know,
I think you said not even the

1332
01:19:53,940 --> 01:19:56,910
CIA but the NSA or some people
are used to right I mean, if

1333
01:19:56,910 --> 01:19:59,280
you've been listening in or
check that kind of stuff sounds

1334
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,680
the NSA them It doesn't sound
like anything the FBI should be

1335
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:02,610
involved with.

1336
01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:07,650
Well, they are. And he's like,
yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, bitches.

1337
01:20:07,890 --> 01:20:11,640
Were everywhere in the lowlands.
So I guess I think it was out of

1338
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,670
phase. I'm sorry. I sounded
Okay. Here. I don't know what

1339
01:20:14,670 --> 01:20:15,090
happened.

1340
01:20:16,289 --> 01:20:18,929
That's weird. No, it's not a
terrible.

1341
01:20:19,319 --> 01:20:22,199
Okay. Well, hopefully it'll
sound okay on the recording for

1342
01:20:22,199 --> 01:20:22,709
the show.

1343
01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:24,929
Well, while you were doing this
stuff,

1344
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,909
don't be little that don't
belittle me

1345
01:20:30,030 --> 01:20:33,810
or if you want to get into some
some low heavy duty and I there

1346
01:20:33,810 --> 01:20:38,550
was a there's this this Iranian
thing is really cranking up when

1347
01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:42,450
I mean, if you watch C span over
the weekend, Oh, yeah. It's just

1348
01:20:42,450 --> 01:20:46,200
like I ran I ran I ran I ran I
ran it was unbelievable. Just

1349
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,210
never ended. Yeah. And

1350
01:20:48,450 --> 01:20:50,340
quickly, because up is ramping
it up.

1351
01:20:51,179 --> 01:20:56,009
And I have a couple of clips
that none of which is good. From

1352
01:20:56,009 --> 01:20:56,789
this guy, please

1353
01:20:56,790 --> 01:21:00,690
share them. That no good. Let's
listen to some no good clips.

1354
01:21:00,870 --> 01:21:03,060
There's this, I want you to play
this one first, because it's

1355
01:21:03,060 --> 01:21:06,360
just brings up two issues. One
is this guy telling me this guy

1356
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,960
doesn't sound like a dead ringer
for the vet Khun Dre, which

1357
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,170
makes me think that there's like
a milieu where you talk like

1358
01:21:13,170 --> 01:21:16,290
this, where you're, you're kind
of you're talking about what and

1359
01:21:16,290 --> 01:21:20,700
then you just jump you kind of
overlap your sentence structure

1360
01:21:20,850 --> 01:21:24,660
in a way to cover up the fact
that you're not saying anything

1361
01:21:24,660 --> 01:21:27,450
at all. And you're probably not
the brightest guy in the world,

1362
01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:30,390
except us guys at the RAND
Corporation place separated at

1363
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:33,510
birth. Yeah, this is like skip
logic stuff is easy all over

1364
01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:33,930
this,

1365
01:21:33,930 --> 01:21:37,710
anything dumb like that. But
it's just the pacing and, and

1366
01:21:37,710 --> 01:21:40,320
style of not saying anything
intelligent.

1367
01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:44,670
But looking at the Iranian
nuclear program. It is motivated

1368
01:21:44,820 --> 01:21:49,410
by insecurity and fear, fear of
the United States fear of US

1369
01:21:49,410 --> 01:21:53,220
military capabilities. So I
don't think necessarily that the

1370
01:21:53,220 --> 01:21:59,580
threat of attacking Iran's
facilities by the United States

1371
01:21:59,580 --> 01:22:02,730
or Israel is necessarily
productive, you can argue that

1372
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:07,650
that threat actually may compel
Iran to weaponize this program.

1373
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:11,910
And the future, even I think
sanctions. We don't entirely

1374
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:15,690
know if sanctions will have the
effect of dissuading Iran from

1375
01:22:15,690 --> 01:22:20,700
weaponizing. It could get to a
point. If the regime feels that

1376
01:22:20,700 --> 01:22:24,510
it's in peril, it could see a
nuclear weapons capability as a

1377
01:22:24,510 --> 01:22:26,910
solution to its problems. So

1378
01:22:28,110 --> 01:22:30,930
Dead Ringer, Dead Ringers

1379
01:22:30,930 --> 01:22:35,010
a weird style, I had another
clip from where he, he's dropped

1380
01:22:35,010 --> 01:22:38,250
in some just drops words in,
it's just that he's a total dead

1381
01:22:38,250 --> 01:22:40,650
ringer. But anyway, he had
really nothing to say, the guy

1382
01:22:40,650 --> 01:22:44,070
who did actually have something
to say is this professor at

1383
01:22:44,070 --> 01:22:48,870
Georgetown, who I think lays it
out, and he is like a super

1384
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:52,800
hawk. This is one of these
panels. And he went on and on

1385
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:58,320
about, he essentially told us
that we're going to die. Yeah.

1386
01:22:59,220 --> 01:23:00,330
So Where's where's that?

1387
01:23:00,630 --> 01:23:02,820
Yeah, it's a got it, like being
able

1388
01:23:02,820 --> 01:23:06,390
to deter a major US or Israeli
military attack. And their

1389
01:23:06,390 --> 01:23:08,670
second goal in their own
strategy documents that they

1390
01:23:08,670 --> 01:23:11,850
publish in public is to become
the most dominant state in the

1391
01:23:11,850 --> 01:23:15,570
Middle East. Okay, so my
colleagues think that they'll

1392
01:23:15,570 --> 01:23:18,840
stop it this kind of Japan model
where you have a lot of HEU, and

1393
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,810
you have the ability to enrich.
But I don't think that Japan

1394
01:23:21,810 --> 01:23:24,570
model is going to deter us or
Israeli attack, I don't think

1395
01:23:24,570 --> 01:23:25,560
the Japan model what is the

1396
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:26,430
Japan model?

1397
01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:32,160
Because the Japan model is to
become a dominant player in your

1398
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:37,650
region by and using nukes as a
power source. And you know what

1399
01:23:37,650 --> 01:23:40,320
they did with the Fukushima I
mean, the Japan, that's what

1400
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:41,550
you're you'd be using.

1401
01:23:43,140 --> 01:23:45,030
It's not some chicken without
pubic hair.

1402
01:23:46,110 --> 01:23:48,000
It could be maybe that's what
he's talking about.

1403
01:23:48,330 --> 01:23:50,370
What makes you the most dominant
state in the region, if those

1404
01:23:50,370 --> 01:23:52,890
are their strategic goals, I
take them at their word at that.

1405
01:23:53,250 --> 01:23:57,690
They need weapons. So I think
that, you know, they're playing

1406
01:23:57,690 --> 01:23:59,580
it smart in terms of the way
they move forward. And they

1407
01:23:59,580 --> 01:24:02,790
might stop short for a while.
But I think that eventually

1408
01:24:02,790 --> 01:24:05,190
they're going to weaponize, I
think there's very little reason

1409
01:24:05,190 --> 01:24:07,920
to believe that they're going to
stop at this late in capability

1410
01:24:08,220 --> 01:24:10,680
in terms of Israel's decision,
you know, so this is something

1411
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,320
that maybe didn't come out
enough in in the talk, but the

1412
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,100
Israeli option in the US option
are very different. The major

1413
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:18,870
difference being that the United
States has much greater

1414
01:24:18,870 --> 01:24:21,900
capability, it has much greater
ability to inflict lasting

1415
01:24:21,900 --> 01:24:25,230
damage on Iran's nuclear
program. So I think on balance,

1416
01:24:25,230 --> 01:24:27,570
actually, that the Israeli
military option is not a good

1417
01:24:27,570 --> 01:24:30,810
one. And I'm not an advocate of
an Israeli Israeli strike. I am

1418
01:24:30,810 --> 01:24:33,000
an advocate of a US strike
because I think of the

1419
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:37,950
Who is this guy? You heard it
right. Yeah.

1420
01:24:37,950 --> 01:24:43,110
I'm an advocate of a US strike.
Yeah. Wow. Well, screw you

1421
01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:45,030
douchebag knows

1422
01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:46,680
that I'm finished and you hear
the worst part,

1423
01:24:46,980 --> 01:24:50,520
the damage that we can inflict
that on balance, the benefits

1424
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,550
outweigh the cost. In terms of
whether Israel will go the mean,

1425
01:24:53,550 --> 01:24:55,680
the problem they face is that
their window for effective

1426
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,740
military action is rapidly
closing because they have less

1427
01:24:58,740 --> 01:25:01,410
of an ability to hit the
barrier. and underground, buried

1428
01:25:01,410 --> 01:25:02,490
in hardened facilities. This

1429
01:25:02,490 --> 01:25:04,590
guy watched too much, Erin
Burnett

1430
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,710
is watching. You watch too much
24 He's

1431
01:25:07,710 --> 01:25:11,400
totally believing all this
stuff. Oh, yeah, no, he's not

1432
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,310
nuclear bunkers. That's where
they make the Viagra Dude, we

1433
01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:15,630
know that by now saying that

1434
01:25:15,630 --> 01:25:18,090
the thing that's interesting is
that I want you to finish this

1435
01:25:18,090 --> 01:25:21,690
clip first. Yeah, I was looking
at today's New York Times and

1436
01:25:21,690 --> 01:25:25,140
the meme that's starting to crop
out. There's a bunch of the crop

1437
01:25:25,140 --> 01:25:31,920
the crop crop up or crop out?
Well, you said Viagra. Okay, so

1438
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:36,840
the meme that's cropping up is.
And so it's all over the paper.

1439
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,840
And I think and I think this
guy's a reflection of it, which

1440
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:44,100
is the intelligence agencies
which are in full agreement,

1441
01:25:44,670 --> 01:25:51,060
that there's nothing going on,
right? They are gun shy, this

1442
01:25:51,060 --> 01:25:54,000
was the here's the meme here.
You hear this out there actually

1443
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,960
gun shy to say anything's going
on, because they were so

1444
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,980
humiliated by what happened in
Iraq, even though they never

1445
01:26:01,980 --> 01:26:04,440
said anything was going on in
Iraq. And it was all forced by

1446
01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:08,190
Cheney, who apparently kept
showing up at Langley every five

1447
01:26:08,190 --> 01:26:11,670
minutes to goad them into saying
something that they could use,

1448
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,450
they can hang their hat on. And
so they're so gun shy, that

1449
01:26:15,450 --> 01:26:19,410
they're, they're reticent to
make do to go out on a limb, and

1450
01:26:19,410 --> 01:26:22,230
actually say that the Iranians
are maybe doing something, they

1451
01:26:22,230 --> 01:26:25,230
won't even go that far. And so
the meme is that they that the

1452
01:26:25,230 --> 01:26:29,370
agencies are, are there, you
can't take, you can't believe

1453
01:26:29,370 --> 01:26:32,820
anything they say, which is
bogus, because you could have

1454
01:26:32,820 --> 01:26:35,610
believed them the first one with
the Iraqi thing, because they

1455
01:26:35,610 --> 01:26:38,130
knew it was nothing going on.
But they, you know, they were

1456
01:26:38,130 --> 01:26:40,740
goaded into saying something
else. But they were right to

1457
01:26:40,740 --> 01:26:42,930
begin with. And now they're
saying there's nothing going on

1458
01:26:43,140 --> 01:26:46,770
in Iran. But now we're trying to
convince ourselves that well,

1459
01:26:46,770 --> 01:26:49,260
but as you're full of crap, they
don't know what they're doing.

1460
01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:51,990
Let me finish this guy, he's an
idiot.

1461
01:26:52,230 --> 01:26:55,740
And as Iran follows through on
these plans to do more and more

1462
01:26:55,740 --> 01:26:59,430
enrichment work at calm, Israel
sees its window for effective

1463
01:26:59,430 --> 01:27:03,600
action closing. So I think it's
very likely that in the next six

1464
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,270
months or so, if we don't get a
deal, and Israel isn't

1465
01:27:06,270 --> 01:27:09,540
absolutely convinced that the
United States will take action,

1466
01:27:09,540 --> 01:27:12,570
if necessary, later on, which I
think is going to be a very hard

1467
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,750
case to make, that Israel will
take action. So I do think that

1468
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:18,360
there's, you know, it's
difficult to say, but, uh, you

1469
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,180
know, to put a point estimate on
it, but there's a high

1470
01:27:21,180 --> 01:27:23,070
probability that there will be a
conflict this year.

1471
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,940
So what school does this
professor attend? Georgetown?

1472
01:27:27,540 --> 01:27:31,380
The I'm boycotting that.
Georgetown is a horrible

1473
01:27:31,380 --> 01:27:36,120
institution. How can you have
this guy representing you? And

1474
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,730
you know, and now like, oh,
Romney, and you know, he's the

1475
01:27:38,730 --> 01:27:41,700
chosen one. And that guy's all
about bombing.

1476
01:27:41,940 --> 01:27:46,500
Oh, by the way, the Council on
Foreign Relations. And his name

1477
01:27:46,500 --> 01:27:50,340
is chronograph KROE. Nia G, if
you want to look him up on the

1478
01:27:50,340 --> 01:27:50,640
wiki,

1479
01:27:50,670 --> 01:27:54,690
his name is douchebag. I've
changed his name now officially,

1480
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,140
ah, so they are all talking
about the possibilities of this,

1481
01:27:58,230 --> 01:28:01,140
you know, that they're all the
intelligence guys. They're full

1482
01:28:01,140 --> 01:28:04,140
of crap, the VA and the Iranians
are very being very careful to

1483
01:28:04,140 --> 01:28:07,470
keep their enrichment under 20%,
which is, you know, you need 90,

1484
01:28:07,980 --> 01:28:10,680
but they could well, they were
they were enriching to 20%,

1485
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:16,680
which is what you'd use for, for
making energy producing

1486
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,800
facility. But they can take and
take all that back and they can

1487
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,170
crank it up and they make a
weapon. And did they the all

1488
01:28:22,170 --> 01:28:23,970
these guys, this guy, by the
way, don't have all this

1489
01:28:23,970 --> 01:28:27,120
flipside, he was on forever. He
says that they can make a bomb

1490
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,100
and four weeks, four weeks from
today,

1491
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,340
you can I gotta get that clip,
because the president can use

1492
01:28:32,340 --> 01:28:36,420
that. You say it only takes a
handful of this material and

1493
01:28:36,420 --> 01:28:42,270
four weeks. That's not even two
paychecks. We dead, the Iranians

1494
01:28:42,300 --> 01:28:44,040
evil Iranians, then

1495
01:28:44,430 --> 01:28:48,180
the logic of the Iranians bomb,
you know, the fears, oh, they're

1496
01:28:48,180 --> 01:28:51,090
gonna throw a miss and the
Israelis are worried about this.

1497
01:28:51,390 --> 01:28:55,470
They're gonna throw a missile
into Jerusalem or Tel Aviv

1498
01:28:55,470 --> 01:29:00,210
actually would be the target.
And it would create a cloud of

1499
01:29:00,210 --> 01:29:03,780
radioactive dust that would go
you know, into Russia. It would

1500
01:29:03,780 --> 01:29:07,680
create gonna happen this is it
makes no sense

1501
01:29:07,710 --> 01:29:10,620
makes no sense. You know, you
know what makes some sense?

1502
01:29:11,070 --> 01:29:19,350
Because we have a Savior. And
this is a YouTube clip that has

1503
01:29:19,350 --> 01:29:22,830
now gone viral from Benjamin
Fulford. Are you familiar with

1504
01:29:22,830 --> 01:29:26,220
his name? Ah, Benjamin Fulford
has been getting a lot of

1505
01:29:26,220 --> 01:29:30,660
exposure in the past couple of
weeks. He is a as he says, a

1506
01:29:30,660 --> 01:29:34,770
representative of the white hat
dragon organization. I think

1507
01:29:34,770 --> 01:29:37,770
that's what it is the white
dragon organization and this is

1508
01:29:37,770 --> 01:29:45,150
a YouTube clip. His name?
Benjamin Fulford Fu, l fo rd and

1509
01:29:45,180 --> 01:29:49,380
he did a press conference with
two amazing guys and we're gonna

1510
01:29:49,380 --> 01:29:53,880
play you his intro because we my
friend are safe fellow humans.

1511
01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:57,810
I'm Benjamin Fulford,
spokesperson for the White

1512
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:01,950
Dragon Society with me here is
photoing Daigaku he is the head

1513
01:30:01,950 --> 01:30:06,240
of the world's martial arts
societies, and if necessary, and

1514
01:30:06,270 --> 01:30:10,290
in an emergency, he can summon
up an army of 200 million people

1515
01:30:10,290 --> 01:30:10,980
worldwide.

1516
01:30:11,070 --> 01:30:16,320
That's 200 million ninjas, John
200 million ninjas who could

1517
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:19,020
move worldwide in a heartbeat.

1518
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:24,420
Here on my right is Alexander
Romanov, who is a grandmaster of

1519
01:30:24,450 --> 01:30:28,410
an Illuminati group that, that
claims to have started the

1520
01:30:28,740 --> 01:30:33,570
French, Russian and American
Revolutions. As you may know,

1521
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,140
there has been a battle going on
or the future of this planet.

1522
01:30:38,250 --> 01:30:42,060
The western countries have been
taken over by a mafia

1523
01:30:42,090 --> 01:30:46,560
organization, all composed of
members of the same clan and

1524
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:52,650
they're not dues, okay? They
worship Lucifer. And they want a

1525
01:30:52,650 --> 01:30:56,370
world government controlled by
them was the rest of us in

1526
01:30:56,550 --> 01:31:01,050
perpetual debt, slavery and
drudgery and with no hope of

1527
01:31:01,050 --> 01:31:04,980
ever, ruling our own destinies.
We offer a very different

1528
01:31:04,980 --> 01:31:10,770
vision. We offer world peace, we
offer $100,000 for every man,

1529
01:31:10,770 --> 01:31:13,410
woman and child to be delivered
in the form of schools,

1530
01:31:13,620 --> 01:31:18,900
hospitals, free education,
nature preserves, and all the

1531
01:31:18,900 --> 01:31:24,600
sorts of things that most people
want. We all want to stop world

1532
01:31:25,470 --> 01:31:28,140
poverty, we want to stop
environmental destruction. And

1533
01:31:28,140 --> 01:31:31,500
we all wish to have a prosperous
and happy and peaceful future.

1534
01:31:31,650 --> 01:31:34,590
And that's the alternative we
are offering. Thank you.

1535
01:31:35,099 --> 01:31:38,849
So this guy could be a little
have a little more charisma. Let

1536
01:31:38,849 --> 01:31:43,409
me just read you from his blog.
As predicted, the collapse of

1537
01:31:43,409 --> 01:31:47,369
the Satan worshipping financial
mafia is accelerating. Well,

1538
01:31:47,940 --> 01:31:50,280
this is the guy that's been
tracking all the bankers by the

1539
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:53,820
way, who have been quitting and
leaving the 350 banker. So, you

1540
01:31:53,820 --> 01:31:57,960
know, I have learned John in my
life, never to laugh at the

1541
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:01,710
crazy guy. You also shouldn't
argue with him. But never,

1542
01:32:01,710 --> 01:32:05,640
that's for sure. Never laugh at
him, because that is typically

1543
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:10,320
the guy who is right on top of
his game, or has a billion

1544
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,950
dollars to invest. Or I've seen
it so many times that I don't

1545
01:32:13,950 --> 01:32:18,960
laugh too hard. I did have to
laugh about the guy who can

1546
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:23,340
summon the 200 million ninjas.
This guy is fantastic. He's

1547
01:32:23,340 --> 01:32:27,540
wearing a bowler hat. He's got a
big stick with all kinds of

1548
01:32:27,540 --> 01:32:30,300
ropes and snakes off of it. And
he's got like, he's got the

1549
01:32:30,300 --> 01:32:34,740
sunglasses. I mean, he's not
only that he has the voice. And

1550
01:32:34,740 --> 01:32:41,850
he believes that Putin, who is a
judo student, is the right guy

1551
01:32:41,850 --> 01:32:46,980
to lead the world and his 200
million ninjas and listen to

1552
01:32:46,980 --> 01:32:49,740
because a Benjamin who speaks
fluent Japanese I guess will

1553
01:32:49,740 --> 01:32:52,440
translate but listen to the
guy's voice He's everything you

1554
01:32:52,440 --> 01:32:54,420
want in the ninja leader Master.

1555
01:32:55,080 --> 01:33:07,080
No, no, no. No no good. What is
the potty? Sick i Oh, yeah.

1556
01:33:07,620 --> 01:33:11,010
Whatever you I love Benjamin
going Yeah, yeah, indeed. Your

1557
01:33:11,010 --> 01:33:19,980
dog Neil Yarrow amigo.

1558
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:26,550
Yes, the International
associations of Bushido karate,

1559
01:33:26,700 --> 01:33:33,300
judo, Kung Fu, etc, can muster
worldwide at any given time. 200

1560
01:33:33,300 --> 01:33:37,170
million people. And they only
fight under the Code of

1561
01:33:37,170 --> 01:33:41,670
chivalry, which is you don't
attack woman children and non

1562
01:33:41,670 --> 01:33:44,640
combatants, which is what the
other side has been doing.

1563
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,240
I love this guy. Hi. Hi. Hi.

1564
01:33:55,980 --> 01:33:58,830
But you know what? I bet you
there's something to that. I bet

1565
01:33:58,830 --> 01:34:03,300
you there is you know, yeah. Of
all the judo jujitsu shoes. The

1566
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:05,820
all these guys, I bet you there
is an organization that has like

1567
01:34:05,820 --> 01:34:08,790
some secret network and maybe
this is the guy. Yeah, sure.

1568
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:14,970
Listen to what he says about
Putin. Well, you know,

1569
01:34:17,310 --> 01:34:20,700
he believes that with Putin's
help and the martial arts

1570
01:34:20,700 --> 01:34:23,850
societies worldwide, we can
cause major change. And of

1571
01:34:23,850 --> 01:34:27,930
course, the Illuminati who are
throughout the Western

1572
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:32,490
intelligence agencies military
and this is not the Italian

1573
01:34:32,490 --> 01:34:36,540
Illuminati. This is the agnostic
Illuminati. And they want

1574
01:34:37,410 --> 01:34:41,880
meritocracy rule by the people
who are the best people who

1575
01:34:41,910 --> 01:34:44,850
worked their way up the system,
not people who are born into it,

1576
01:34:45,060 --> 01:34:48,210
and given it have it given to
them even though they are often

1577
01:34:48,210 --> 01:34:49,110
not very bright.

1578
01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:55,470
So it's funny, but I'm not
really laughing too hard,

1579
01:34:55,500 --> 01:34:59,970
because you know, I am okay. I
knew you'd appreciate it.

1580
01:35:00,329 --> 01:35:02,099
Oh yeah, no, I liked that guy's
voice too.

1581
01:35:02,130 --> 01:35:05,940
He's good. He looks the part
though he is so awesome. He's so

1582
01:35:05,940 --> 01:35:11,970
awesome to Putin is the man.
Putin is going to save us, my

1583
01:35:11,970 --> 01:35:12,480
friend.

1584
01:35:13,620 --> 01:35:17,070
Well, on top of that, you might
as well play I feel terrible.

1585
01:35:19,590 --> 01:35:25,020
Bad feel terrible. I just cannot
sit here and concentrate on my

1586
01:35:25,020 --> 01:35:30,000
lines. Because I'm so nauseous.
Who's that?

1587
01:35:30,630 --> 01:35:34,080
Somebody on the world's next
model or whatever the hell?

1588
01:35:35,310 --> 01:35:39,630
Do you watch that? I watched
that gladness. You're horrible.

1589
01:35:40,140 --> 01:35:46,200
Let me do you remember we talked
about this new woman who was now

1590
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:52,080
the undersecretary of state? Her
name is Sherman. Her last name?

1591
01:35:52,110 --> 01:35:56,340
Sure, man. And let me see what
her first name

1592
01:35:56,340 --> 01:35:57,510
the Wayback Machine.

1593
01:36:00,030 --> 01:36:01,560
Let me see

1594
01:36:01,860 --> 01:36:03,420
her name. Cindy Sherman.

1595
01:36:03,660 --> 01:36:08,190
No, it's not to Cindy. She
looks. She's dead ringer without

1596
01:36:08,190 --> 01:36:12,720
the wrinkles for the IMF. Woman.
Wendy Sherman. Wendy. Yeah, look

1597
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,810
at her. She looks just like
Christine Lagarde. Kick her up.

1598
01:36:16,710 --> 01:36:16,980
You see,

1599
01:36:17,370 --> 01:36:21,570
geez, she does like dancing
around separated at birth. Yeah,

1600
01:36:21,570 --> 01:36:21,840
except

1601
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,200
she doesn't have all the
wrinkles. A younger version, you

1602
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,240
know, because she didn't have
the Chicago mafia sitting on her

1603
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:27,570
face.

1604
01:36:27,750 --> 01:36:33,240
She's obviously right, that
injecting lamb fetuses into our

1605
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,540
system, right? Just born in
1949. She's just as old.

1606
01:36:36,870 --> 01:36:39,750
So she, she's probably

1607
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:41,820
more wrinkly than she looks in
this photo.

1608
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:45,570
No, I have video from her.
Because it was a big conference.

1609
01:36:45,570 --> 01:36:48,420
And Johnny Carson was there,
which is what always makes me

1610
01:36:48,420 --> 01:36:51,360
laugh. Because of course, it's
not the dead Johnny Carson talk

1611
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,690
show host. But it's Johnny
Carson Johnny, who is in charge

1612
01:36:54,690 --> 01:36:58,560
of Africa. He's the he's in
another state department yours,

1613
01:36:58,590 --> 01:37:03,750
Johnny. And so this clip is a
little long, two minutes. But I

1614
01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:08,130
think very interesting to hear
the hubris of the United States

1615
01:37:08,130 --> 01:37:10,410
State Department, this would be
yet clippity clop State

1616
01:37:10,410 --> 01:37:22,260
Department messages clear. Clip.
We got to remix. I like it. And

1617
01:37:22,260 --> 01:37:26,220
listen to the hubris of her
talking about Africa and how

1618
01:37:26,220 --> 01:37:30,720
great Africa is for America, for
the world, how we're going to

1619
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:36,750
help them how we're so awesome.
Not a word about the Chinese in

1620
01:37:36,750 --> 01:37:40,020
there, by the way, not a single
word about the Chinese just have

1621
01:37:40,020 --> 01:37:40,560
a listen.

1622
01:37:41,190 --> 01:37:47,310
Africa has changed substantially
over the past decade. And it is

1623
01:37:47,310 --> 01:37:48,060
in my view,

1624
01:37:48,090 --> 01:37:52,440
China built it up, it's kicking
ass. That's why it's changed

1625
01:37:52,440 --> 01:37:55,740
substantially over the past
decade, you way past

1626
01:37:55,740 --> 01:38:00,090
time to recognize the positive
developments that are occurring,

1627
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:05,490
and the enormous potential that
they present for Africa, for the

1628
01:38:05,490 --> 01:38:08,730
United States. And for the
global community.

1629
01:38:11,070 --> 01:38:12,120
I just get a kick out of

1630
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:13,920
that. Apparently, it's

1631
01:38:13,950 --> 01:38:18,420
awesome for us. Africa is a
continent on the move.

1632
01:38:19,980 --> 01:38:22,500
They're running away from your
drones. That's why they're on

1633
01:38:22,500 --> 01:38:26,310
the move like, hey, they come to
kente there's another drone man,

1634
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:28,410
let's run. That's why they're on
the move

1635
01:38:28,440 --> 01:38:32,190
you ally some of the economic
gains that have eluded it in the

1636
01:38:32,190 --> 01:38:37,170
past six of the 10 fastest
growing countries in the world,

1637
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:40,260
or in Sub Saharan Africa, I
think most people would find

1638
01:38:40,260 --> 01:38:42,270
that an astonishing fact.

1639
01:38:42,389 --> 01:38:43,589
Oh, fact.

1640
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:46,920
astonishing fact

1641
01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:51,450
astonishing. And the IMF
predicts that over the next five

1642
01:38:51,450 --> 01:38:55,800
my sister five years Sub Saharan
Africa, that that number will

1643
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,320
reach seven of the top 10

1644
01:38:59,700 --> 01:39:02,370
are starting to get a picture as
to why we've got all these bases

1645
01:39:02,370 --> 01:39:05,130
there and drones and all that. I
mean, it's starting to make

1646
01:39:05,130 --> 01:39:06,210
sense in the people

1647
01:39:06,450 --> 01:39:09,930
I visited to have those fastest
growing countries Angola and

1648
01:39:09,930 --> 01:39:13,890
Nigeria, as well as Zambia,
Malawi, and Kenya

1649
01:39:14,190 --> 01:39:17,040
actually picked up a baby to
Nigeria to pick up her money.

1650
01:39:17,190 --> 01:39:17,700
And she went

1651
01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:19,200
to Malawi to pick up a baby.

1652
01:39:19,590 --> 01:39:23,430
And it is clear that those
dramatic changes that I spoke of

1653
01:39:23,670 --> 01:39:29,700
are happening. As we look at
Africa, it's important to both

1654
01:39:29,700 --> 01:39:32,610
look at and look beyond the
headlines and I wanted to stop

1655
01:39:32,610 --> 01:39:37,500
for a moment to note two very
positive outcomes and what is

1656
01:39:37,500 --> 01:39:39,360
sometimes a difficult space.

1657
01:39:39,389 --> 01:39:45,029
Okay, positive outcomes, things
that are good in Africa. For 500

1658
01:39:45,029 --> 01:39:45,449
Alex,

1659
01:39:46,050 --> 01:39:50,160
Ambassador Carson will travel
soon to be part of a delegation

1660
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,550
representing the United States
at the inauguration of the new

1661
01:39:53,550 --> 01:39:58,860
President of Senegal, President
Sol. This was a peaceful

1662
01:39:58,890 --> 01:39:59,940
transfer

1663
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,350
This is so nice. We didn't have
to bomb anybody. We just went in

1664
01:40:04,350 --> 01:40:08,880
and said, put our guy in, or ill
will kick your ass. And this was

1665
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:13,500
so nice. They did exactly what
we told them to do at gunpoint

1666
01:40:13,530 --> 01:40:18,600
of democratic power. And I
salute President watt for

1667
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,870
accepting the election, you in
the army lady, you can salute

1668
01:40:21,870 --> 01:40:25,290
them and stepping aside, and
it's an important milestone

1669
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:34,200
stepping aside. For Africa,
similarly, although none of us

1670
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:38,760
were very excited, now listen to
what she's saying about the, in

1671
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:45,180
essence in quotes junta in Mali,
and see this as a setback for a

1672
01:40:45,180 --> 01:40:50,880
long tradition of democracy in
Mali. We are also incredibly

1673
01:40:50,910 --> 01:40:58,770
heartened by echo OSes efforts
to mediate and to move back to

1674
01:40:58,770 --> 01:41:03,300
democracy in Mali, and support
the people of Mali to do so and

1675
01:41:03,300 --> 01:41:07,890
do so quickly. Again, a real
statement about the growing

1676
01:41:07,890 --> 01:41:10,350
strength of regional
institutions in Africa.

1677
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:15,120
So if I understood correctly,
he's saying it's too bad and we

1678
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:17,550
had a couple people I'd be
killed over that but we're

1679
01:41:17,550 --> 01:41:20,970
pretty encouraged by it That's
what I heard her say

1680
01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:25,590
that she's obviously playing the
you know, one of the she's the

1681
01:41:25,620 --> 01:41:28,890
what the jackal or she or the
frontman, the first you got you

1682
01:41:28,890 --> 01:41:31,350
guys go in there saying you
gotta take some loans from these

1683
01:41:31,350 --> 01:41:34,200
guys. You gotta you know, you
gotta make Turkmen Yeah, this

1684
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,870
agenda and they say, Yeah, we
don't want to and then they say

1685
01:41:36,870 --> 01:41:39,570
well, you know, maybe you should
look at Marley next thing, you

1686
01:41:39,570 --> 01:41:40,500
know, somebody's dead.

1687
01:41:40,650 --> 01:41:44,430
Her speech, by the way was
titled The new decade, colon,

1688
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:50,490
seizing opportunities from a
transforming Africa. And the

1689
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,470
ECOWAS commission that you
mentioned in there, you might

1690
01:41:52,470 --> 01:41:54,750
want to take a look at that and
put in the show notes. ECOWAS

1691
01:41:54,750 --> 01:42:00,060
dot i n t. ECOWAS is the
Economic Community of West

1692
01:42:00,060 --> 01:42:03,210
African States. It's pretty much
the European Union that got the

1693
01:42:03,210 --> 01:42:07,050
same kind of building even if
you look at their website, and

1694
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:10,650
you know, it's got Cabo Verde a
Cote d'Ivoire, Gambia, Ghana,

1695
01:42:10,650 --> 01:42:15,810
Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Liberia,
Mali, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal,

1696
01:42:15,810 --> 01:42:20,280
Sierra Leone, it's our United
States of Africa that is being

1697
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:21,660
built right there

1698
01:42:21,750 --> 01:42:25,380
was to get the Chinese out.
Yeah, we got to remember that we

1699
01:42:25,410 --> 01:42:29,400
still have to watch because we
have got a clue that Malawi is a

1700
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,340
place to watch and she visited
there to you. Oh, yeah. Yes, she

1701
01:42:32,340 --> 01:42:36,420
did. And she went there to tell
them to tell the Malawi's look

1702
01:42:36,420 --> 01:42:40,860
you got to take you got to 15
days. You got to you got to work

1703
01:42:40,860 --> 01:42:43,740
with the IMF and World Bank who
is a quote from her we owe

1704
01:42:43,740 --> 01:42:46,590
really good you have to work
with the IMF and the World Bank

1705
01:42:46,590 --> 01:42:49,350
to put an economic plan in place
so as so you can meet your

1706
01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:50,460
energy needs.

1707
01:42:51,150 --> 01:42:54,780
Got energy all over the place.
Drowning in energy.

1708
01:42:54,870 --> 01:42:59,970
So apparently this guy this head
honcho guy is some President

1709
01:42:59,970 --> 01:43:05,100
Bingu wa mirth my thorine Rika I
can't pronounce his name

1710
01:43:05,100 --> 01:43:09,210
obviously. He's adamant about
this. And he's creating a stir

1711
01:43:09,450 --> 01:43:12,030
by saying you know, we can take
care of our own business but you

1712
01:43:12,030 --> 01:43:15,450
know, and there's like, this
battle going on this guy is is

1713
01:43:15,450 --> 01:43:19,530
gonna be he's gonna be gone. You
watch. That's my read.

1714
01:43:19,559 --> 01:43:20,939
And what's his name? What's his
name again?

1715
01:43:21,419 --> 01:43:26,219
President Bing. Do bi N G wha
wha whatever that comes from

1716
01:43:26,220 --> 01:43:30,840
Bing. Bing Dubois gone is his
new Mutharika, Bing, you

1717
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:32,250
walk on bing, bong,

1718
01:43:32,730 --> 01:43:37,140
Bing to walk on your mofo. We're
taking we're taking all your

1719
01:43:37,140 --> 01:43:40,500
oil, your democracy and your
babies. And here's Madonna to

1720
01:43:40,500 --> 01:43:47,700
smooth it all over. So we feel
good about it? Yeah. I think was

1721
01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:50,250
Robert leather, one of our
producers who sent me this great

1722
01:43:50,250 --> 01:43:53,130
clip from the BBC. Just let's
stay in Africa for a second.

1723
01:43:53,130 --> 01:43:54,030
Let's move up north.

1724
01:43:54,389 --> 01:43:57,299
This is gonna send you this
article. Yeah, please do.

1725
01:43:57,330 --> 01:44:00,990
Yeah, I want to put it in the
show notes. Thank you. Alex

1726
01:44:00,990 --> 01:44:06,420
Crawford is a reporter for I
think sky. And she was the one

1727
01:44:06,450 --> 01:44:11,580
who did the interview. Do you
recall the the crazy guy who had

1728
01:44:11,580 --> 01:44:12,720
Gadhafi his hat?

1729
01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:17,340
Oh, yeah. Remember that? Yeah,
the hat and there was another

1730
01:44:17,340 --> 01:44:20,400
guy with the gold gun. Well,
this guy, same guy.

1731
01:44:20,850 --> 01:44:24,660
No, I think he had the gold
chain in the hat. So she's on

1732
01:44:24,660 --> 01:44:28,560
the BBC being interviewed about
this the story of her life and

1733
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,620
this just shows you because you
know, I think we're doing you

1734
01:44:31,620 --> 01:44:35,970
know, we're trying to research
we read legislation we do we do

1735
01:44:35,970 --> 01:44:40,560
the work. You know, we try to
bring you some news. Try to

1736
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,020
clarify it. So you understand
what's what's going on. You

1737
01:44:43,020 --> 01:44:46,260
know, we just dissected this
Sherman woman, what she's doing

1738
01:44:46,260 --> 01:44:48,660
and she's saying it you know,
it's very clear. I mean, now,

1739
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:54,150
they don't, I mean, they're,
they kind of leave things out.

1740
01:44:54,150 --> 01:44:58,350
They subvert information, but
they, they Oh, you can pull it

1741
01:44:58,350 --> 01:44:59,940
out. You can pull the truth out
right?

1742
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,920
So she this woman is a reporter.
She's so dumb. When you hear her

1743
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:12,420
explain how she fell into the
story. It's so obvious that this

1744
01:45:12,420 --> 01:45:16,320
is the whole thing was fake.
This guy with Qaddafi's hat,

1745
01:45:16,350 --> 01:45:17,970
this will crack you up behind

1746
01:45:17,970 --> 01:45:21,120
the game, you'll find my way
across the town to the port

1747
01:45:21,390 --> 01:45:24,780
explained to us about the title.
Kind of Gaddafi is hat. That's

1748
01:45:24,780 --> 01:45:31,470
quite a significant hat. Well,
that's when when we went back in

1749
01:45:31,470 --> 01:45:36,120
August, when the when Tripoli
finally was reclaimed by the

1750
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:40,410
rebels. We went into the
compound as they were breaking

1751
01:45:40,410 --> 01:45:43,920
through. And in amongst this
absolute chaos, there were sort

1752
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,160
of hundreds of people running
all over the place rampaging

1753
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:51,750
through their houses, you know,
pillaging and firing guns all

1754
01:45:51,750 --> 01:45:55,440
over the place out of out of
this. Mayhem walks through this,

1755
01:45:55,890 --> 01:46:00,120
this young man with wearing a
rather splendid and splintered

1756
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:05,220
sort of hat as well as was
stolen. And so on. And he kind

1757
01:46:05,220 --> 01:46:08,220
of was he was like a sort of
figure, you know, you sort of

1758
01:46:08,220 --> 01:46:10,890
think, Am I imagining this
because he walked out of smoke

1759
01:46:10,890 --> 01:46:13,170
and sort of came towards us
brandish

1760
01:46:13,530 --> 01:46:16,920
you walked out of smoke, like
out of nowhere, John, is out of

1761
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:18,810
smoke. Well wait this morning.

1762
01:46:19,500 --> 01:46:23,100
I think one of his fly swatters
and wearing this big gold

1763
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:26,790
necklace wrapped around his
neck. And I thought, I've got to

1764
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:29,850
interview this guy. And
unbelievably, he spoke perfect

1765
01:46:29,850 --> 01:46:30,450
English.

1766
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:35,790
Unbelievably, I couldn't believe
my luck. He walked out smoke,

1767
01:46:36,060 --> 01:46:39,960
and he had a hat. And he spoke
perfect English. It's

1768
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,180
unbelievable. I didn't question
this at all.

1769
01:46:42,630 --> 01:46:45,510
And he would he just walked up
and I said, Well, where did you

1770
01:46:45,510 --> 01:46:47,790
get the hat? And he said, I've
just been into it and he

1771
01:46:47,790 --> 01:46:51,810
couldn't even believers. Oh my
god. I've just been into Colonel

1772
01:46:51,810 --> 01:46:56,130
Gaddafi his bedroom and have
taken his hat. And he delivered

1773
01:46:56,130 --> 01:46:59,550
this what I thought was this
amazing sort of speech about

1774
01:46:59,550 --> 01:47:02,670
now's the time for our country
to me had a

1775
01:47:02,670 --> 01:47:06,090
whole speech prepared an amazing
speech. He walked out of the

1776
01:47:06,090 --> 01:47:09,510
smoke. He spoke English. He had
a speech prepared come

1777
01:47:09,510 --> 01:47:11,940
together, we've got to stop all
the fighting. It was like this

1778
01:47:11,940 --> 01:47:15,090
sort of Churchillian speech in
the middle of this absolute

1779
01:47:15,090 --> 01:47:15,750
chaos. How

1780
01:47:15,750 --> 01:47:18,060
could it be possible I don't
understand.

1781
01:47:18,090 --> 01:47:21,270
And he was a real character. But
the fantastic piece of I mean, a

1782
01:47:21,300 --> 01:47:24,030
very well deserved luck after
what you've been through it to

1783
01:47:24,030 --> 01:47:28,260
find that the man who wanted the
cat and fly SWAT and gold chain

1784
01:47:28,260 --> 01:47:31,170
spoke good English. Fantastic
moment, it was

1785
01:47:31,170 --> 01:47:36,300
a whole series of very fortunate
or unfortunate events that

1786
01:47:36,330 --> 01:47:40,200
did not for a second does even
the toe, do you think it's

1787
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:47,370
possible that this was bullcrap.
You How How unbelievable is

1788
01:47:47,370 --> 01:47:51,030
imagine some at some some
agents. There was a bunch of

1789
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:53,700
guys, they showed this when they
when they were having this first

1790
01:47:53,700 --> 01:47:57,000
right there was these these guys
they were dressed in western

1791
01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:00,090
Gibberd dressed kind of like in
western gear of some sort, but

1792
01:48:00,090 --> 01:48:03,000
they were obviously Western
Europeans. And I can just

1793
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,490
imagine a couple of you know
that are orchestrating this

1794
01:48:05,490 --> 01:48:09,510
thing. Oh, that the Oh see her?
Yeah, she's the stupid as BBC

1795
01:48:09,510 --> 01:48:13,320
reporter in the world she'll
believe anything. Oh, then we

1796
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,140
should send the What's his, you
know, Bill over here with with

1797
01:48:16,140 --> 01:48:18,870
the hat and see if he can run
run the thing on her. Well,

1798
01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:19,080
there's

1799
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:19,710
a tip off. I

1800
01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:23,310
bet you five bucks. You buys a
bug bites. Lou hook, line and

1801
01:48:23,310 --> 01:48:24,990
sinker. I'm on for that bet.

1802
01:48:25,350 --> 01:48:28,260
There's something you missed in
here, though. And let me see if

1803
01:48:28,260 --> 01:48:29,550
I can roll it back to that
piece.

1804
01:48:29,580 --> 01:48:33,690
Oh my god. I've just been into
Colonel Gaddafi his bedroom.

1805
01:48:33,870 --> 01:48:39,270
He said, Oh my god. Really? The
guy and Olivia?

1806
01:48:39,780 --> 01:48:40,770
Yeah. Really?

1807
01:48:40,799 --> 01:48:43,079
He said, Oh my god. Oh my god.

1808
01:48:43,530 --> 01:48:47,850
Yeah. Oh, my God. She came out
and said, O M G.

1809
01:48:48,540 --> 01:48:56,880
Lol, LOL OMG. I've got I've got
the mofos hat. So if this.

1810
01:48:57,570 --> 01:49:00,420
That's so that's what passes his
news class would pass as

1811
01:49:00,990 --> 01:49:04,200
reporters that believe anything
that's well, you know, here's an

1812
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:07,710
interesting clip from the
Afghanistan killings, which

1813
01:49:07,710 --> 01:49:10,530
confirms what at least one of
the rumors going around. And

1814
01:49:10,530 --> 01:49:13,800
this is a reporter from the
Australia who seems who was

1815
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:17,370
actually a female. That was why
we can't seem to get a hold of

1816
01:49:17,370 --> 01:49:20,190
any of the people that know
anything about the killing. That

1817
01:49:20,190 --> 01:49:24,210
took place, right, you know, by
that maniac, right. The whole

1818
01:49:24,210 --> 01:49:28,680
team were the helicopters
roaming around Afghanistan,

1819
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:30,870
having no problem getting access
here and there, but she's

1820
01:49:30,870 --> 01:49:34,020
reporting just what she sees.
And she's not, you know, getting

1821
01:49:34,020 --> 01:49:36,240
all all giddy about it play that

1822
01:49:36,269 --> 01:49:38,309
desperate for their story to
come out.

1823
01:49:38,669 --> 01:49:41,759
And what did they tell you? What
were some of the specifics of

1824
01:49:41,759 --> 01:49:43,889
what they told you happened that
night?

1825
01:49:45,090 --> 01:49:47,460
There was some horrific
accounts, Aaron and I spoke to

1826
01:49:47,460 --> 01:49:50,910
one woman who told me how her
husband had been shot in the

1827
01:49:50,910 --> 01:49:54,930
head and how she dragged him
into her house. And she had his

1828
01:49:54,930 --> 01:49:59,220
brain in her hands, you know,
deeply traumatic sort of stories

1829
01:49:59,220 --> 01:50:01,800
that they were telling me He,
she also then told me that there

1830
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:05,940
were 15 to 20 Americans standing
in her yard, assuring her to get

1831
01:50:05,940 --> 01:50:10,110
back inside her house. You know,
these are difficult. They're

1832
01:50:10,110 --> 01:50:12,870
intense claims that she's
making, they don't really match

1833
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:15,690
up to some of the other claims
that some of the children told

1834
01:50:15,690 --> 01:50:18,180
me. They told me that one
American entered their home and

1835
01:50:18,180 --> 01:50:21,300
one American shorts of their
family members. So there are a

1836
01:50:21,300 --> 01:50:24,660
lot of disparities in the
stories. It's difficult to know

1837
01:50:25,050 --> 01:50:26,760
who saw what and when.

1838
01:50:26,849 --> 01:50:35,309
Yeah, let's just ixnay on the
lagoon pay and the helicopter a

1839
01:50:35,729 --> 01:50:38,309
that was I lying fake?

1840
01:50:38,340 --> 01:50:40,110
Your your pig? That sucks.

1841
01:50:40,110 --> 01:50:43,020
Yeah. But it's like, Yeah, cuz
they didn't match up with the

1842
01:50:43,020 --> 01:50:48,540
kids who are traumatized and
shot up. You know, and then now

1843
01:50:48,540 --> 01:50:52,050
they're saying, Oh, the guy had
malaria vaccine, and that can

1844
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:53,670
cause you to go psycho.

1845
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,510
Have you heard something very,
very suspicious about this whole

1846
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:58,290
situation? Yeah,

1847
01:50:58,290 --> 01:51:00,360
it's a cover up, obviously, to
cover up.

1848
01:51:01,020 --> 01:51:04,590
What there was an assassination
of some specific people or some

1849
01:51:04,590 --> 01:51:09,060
person. Yeah. What was the deal?
There's something very strange

1850
01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:09,630
about this.

1851
01:51:10,380 --> 01:51:14,040
You think? You think? Yeah,
there's no reporting, John. And

1852
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:16,350
of course, if we were there,
we'd we'd we'd get the real

1853
01:51:16,350 --> 01:51:18,300
news, wouldn't we? You and me
together

1854
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:24,000
would know. I'm going to show us
Imagine all the people who could

1855
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,740
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be
fun.

1856
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,330
Oh, Ma, oh my Allah. Oh my
Allah.

1857
01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:41,760
Oh, that was an odd hook. Keith
Edwards, Sir Keith Edwards want

1858
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:45,030
to thank him from Gilbert,
Arizona. $151. Hey, citizens. My

1859
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:49,140
donation is made up of $60 Happy
birthday wish for John and $91

1860
01:51:49,140 --> 01:51:53,250
to cover the first quarter of
2012 in $1 a day, please send

1861
01:51:53,250 --> 01:51:55,620
some karma to my fellow wage
slaves and keep up the good

1862
01:51:55,620 --> 01:51:58,560
work. Fantastic. Thank you. And
thank you for sharing. You've

1863
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,580
got karma. You and your pen.
Because you got to write this

1864
01:52:02,580 --> 01:52:05,940
one down. Mark Fosco San
Antonio, Texas up the street

1865
01:52:05,940 --> 01:52:09,270
from you on a $33.70 in the
morning. not asking for any

1866
01:52:09,270 --> 01:52:13,260
karma D douching. Etc. Just
another donation. Another lead

1867
01:52:13,290 --> 01:52:16,290
donation. I do want to give a
belated birthday. Shout out to

1868
01:52:16,290 --> 01:52:19,620
Christian here in San Antonio.
His birthday was Tuesday. Can

1869
01:52:19,620 --> 01:52:20,550
you put him on the list?

1870
01:52:20,580 --> 01:52:23,790
Is he not on the list is not on
the list. Okay, I'm gonna put

1871
01:52:23,790 --> 01:52:25,050
him right now.

1872
01:52:25,530 --> 01:52:31,350
Christian from Mark Okay.
Michael clink Colonel clink to

1873
01:52:31,350 --> 01:52:35,820
you Oak Park, Illinois. $129.99
ITM Adam and John Keep up the

1874
01:52:35,820 --> 01:52:41,310
good work. Scott in Leesburg,
Virginia $110.20. The double

1875
01:52:41,340 --> 01:52:44,550
nickels on the dime donation
like to send a big karma shot to

1876
01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:46,530
Kathy in New York. She just
finished her round of

1877
01:52:46,530 --> 01:52:49,290
chemotherapy. We'll be starting
stem cell treatment on Monday.

1878
01:52:49,710 --> 01:52:52,530
And I'm in awe of her ability to
fight the cancers chemo and

1879
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,200
Uncle Rick while still having
enough energy to go out and

1880
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:58,620
propagate the formulas right on
somewhere in upstate New York.

1881
01:52:58,620 --> 01:53:02,760
There's a.on down or there is
doubtlessly undoubtedly would be

1882
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,880
the word I'd use as the hospital
full of MILFy nurses awaiting

1883
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:09,810
Adam's arrival. Please give her
a shot at Karma can company by

1884
01:53:09,810 --> 01:53:15,420
the hypnotizing tones of maestro
John C. Dvorak slide whistle

1885
01:53:15,450 --> 01:53:18,660
Oh my goodness. Are you ready
Maestro? To do the

1886
01:53:26,580 --> 01:53:29,940
nice up tone. Take it to the

1887
01:53:30,150 --> 01:53:33,210
political analysis are
outstanding. I'm accelerating my

1888
01:53:33,210 --> 01:53:36,960
donations toward knighthood
because you'll doubtlessly get

1889
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,930
to to the head if you continue
these exemplary assessments.

1890
01:53:39,930 --> 01:53:43,350
Yeah, hurry. Unless you're both
under covered this info shields.

1891
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:43,620
Yeah.

1892
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:47,520
Yeah, that's why we're rolling
in the dough. Yeah.

1893
01:53:48,060 --> 01:53:51,480
That what gets you killed is
revealing something that's

1894
01:53:51,480 --> 01:53:56,250
actually important that nobody
else knows. All we do is

1895
01:53:56,250 --> 01:54:00,360
deconstruct what should be
obvious to everyone. Anthony

1896
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:04,530
farmer, Las Vegas, Nevada. 7734.
First of many special donations

1897
01:54:04,530 --> 01:54:07,560
from the hellscape Land of the
intellectual side of mites.

1898
01:54:08,790 --> 01:54:13,320
Vegas, I tried to educate with
my blog, the daily outrage.com

1899
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:16,830
But none listen. Perhaps they'll
pay attention to you. I keep

1900
01:54:16,830 --> 01:54:20,160
funneling casino chips your way
or I will until they do

1901
01:54:20,190 --> 01:54:23,400
Hey, if you if you got an RSS
feed for the daily outrage.com

1902
01:54:23,550 --> 01:54:27,330
Put it into no agenda news
network.com So we can follow

1903
01:54:27,330 --> 01:54:27,990
along and

1904
01:54:28,019 --> 01:54:31,499
is petty grievances about the
local dog pooping in his yard.

1905
01:54:32,430 --> 01:54:34,620
Okay, in that case, don't put it
in the network, but

1906
01:54:34,650 --> 01:54:39,180
I'm just saying he should if
it's if he knows what it is.

1907
01:54:39,180 --> 01:54:41,610
And I want to thank everyone
who's contributing because we

1908
01:54:41,610 --> 01:54:45,210
have some great producers know
what's in the news. network.com

1909
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:49,590
You know, we talk about one
topic 30 stories show up. Yeah,

1910
01:54:49,620 --> 01:54:52,230
it's really cool, but it's like
a research company. Yeah.

1911
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,410
Exactly. Without without like
clients and money

1912
01:54:55,470 --> 01:54:58,140
and without money without
clients without suits telling

1913
01:54:58,140 --> 01:55:01,380
you what to do. That's the good
part. Michael Pettigrew in

1914
01:55:01,380 --> 01:55:05,490
Huntsville Alabama $73 donated
73 is the largest this is a good

1915
01:55:05,490 --> 01:55:09,570
one by the way. I have donated
$73 Because 73 is the largest

1916
01:55:09,570 --> 01:55:14,130
twin prime number below 100
right on in order to get a

1917
01:55:14,130 --> 01:55:17,430
science karma for my brother in
law for his upcoming state

1918
01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:21,180
science fair he is the best he
has the best project by far and

1919
01:55:21,180 --> 01:55:24,810
they promised a match 50% of his
cash winnings at the fair as a

1920
01:55:24,810 --> 01:55:29,790
donation to the show last year
he won between 305 $100 The two

1921
01:55:29,790 --> 01:55:31,950
of you are the best keep up the
fantastic work

1922
01:55:31,980 --> 01:55:38,220
alright, sorry it's karma. Let's
see if we can do it. You've got

1923
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,860
karma it's a good one. It's a
good one.

1924
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:44,520
Good one Chris ball Lansing,
Michigan 7126 The last couple of

1925
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:48,690
episodes have been out standing.
You guys are truly the best

1926
01:55:48,690 --> 01:55:50,940
podcast in the universe. I'm
still searching for work and

1927
01:55:50,940 --> 01:55:53,400
could really use a shot of job
karma if I could thank you for

1928
01:55:53,400 --> 01:56:01,290
all the work you put in. You've
got karma and here we go. Read

1929
01:56:01,290 --> 01:56:06,300
Lenox on the top of the list.
Worthington Ohio 69 o 6996. He

1930
01:56:06,300 --> 01:56:09,600
did decide tricky Dicky though
this may be the week that we

1931
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,690
stopped getting 6969 in the
morning please give some super

1932
01:56:12,690 --> 01:56:15,660
slide whistle karma. I thought
that the 27 cents would keep

1933
01:56:15,660 --> 01:56:17,160
Adam out of the poor house. Oh,

1934
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,440
thanks. It's really working here
we go

1935
01:56:25,230 --> 01:56:29,670
exciting on here we go. Damien
Taman comes in from Perth, our

1936
01:56:29,670 --> 01:56:34,560
favorite city, Western Australia
6969 I don't see a comment. I

1937
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:38,040
don't recall a letter so he's in
but he's in for that big dough.

1938
01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:46,560
Neil Henderson. Penicuik
Midlothian. I'm guessing $69 No

1939
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:47,820
commoners, Midlothian.

1940
01:56:48,150 --> 01:56:51,030
I don't know. Look it up. I look
it up in the book of knowledge a

1941
01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:55,290
show. Gerald small Chesterfield,
Missouri which is where the

1942
01:56:55,290 --> 01:56:58,920
Chesterfield was invented really
the couch I'm just guessing it's

1943
01:56:58,920 --> 01:56:59,130
just

1944
01:56:59,130 --> 01:57:02,700
a strange Lothian I should know
that it's in Tejas, dude. Oh,

1945
01:57:02,700 --> 01:57:04,620
it's right down the street from
right down the street or could

1946
01:57:04,620 --> 01:57:07,080
be Illinois. But I think it's
Tejas

1947
01:57:08,850 --> 01:57:12,000
6070 And guys, just another
small token of appreciation and

1948
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:14,940
a request for long distance
birthday call out. We got that

1949
01:57:15,060 --> 01:57:20,460
on the list for his brother in
law, and he got us into no

1950
01:57:20,460 --> 01:57:23,100
agenda for which we're extremely
grateful. Grateful. Good for

1951
01:57:23,100 --> 01:57:34,020
him. Are you a birthday karma?
You've got karma l yo,

1952
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:36,720
Woodbridge, Virginia 6660

1953
01:57:38,970 --> 01:57:41,880
Do you have to do it in
superhero style? He said

1954
01:57:42,090 --> 01:57:48,150
Aaron Yoho I'm doing any 6660
and honoree as Hillary Satan.

1955
01:57:48,540 --> 01:57:51,150
You guys are greatest source of
news laughter and the best of

1956
01:57:51,150 --> 01:57:56,340
all the truth. The No bullshit
attitude is refreshing in the DC

1957
01:57:56,340 --> 01:58:00,120
metro area believe me. Keep up
the good work crackpot and

1958
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:01,590
buzzkill keep them straight.

1959
01:58:01,620 --> 01:58:05,010
You know, we talked about me
running for office on the last

1960
01:58:05,010 --> 01:58:09,480
show. Yeah, I've decided that
makes no sense. I think I should

1961
01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:11,070
study law and become a lawyer.

1962
01:58:13,530 --> 01:58:15,120
Well, the but yeah, that

1963
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:18,540
takes like seven years. Oh,
well, like a start now.

1964
01:58:18,990 --> 01:58:21,960
I think running for office a
better idea. Jonathan Jackson

1965
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:24,810
Chattanooga, Tennessee $60.
Happy birthday. John and the

1966
01:58:24,810 --> 01:58:29,700
other happy birthday gifts come
from Beth. Graphics Alkmaar

1967
01:58:29,730 --> 01:58:37,050
somewhere. Mr. Okamoto, Jennifer
Buchanan from Chicago $60 and

1968
01:58:37,050 --> 01:58:42,630
Bozeman sporting goods, not in
Bozeman, Bo s. E. in Wilmington,

1969
01:58:42,630 --> 01:58:48,330
North Carolina. Nice little
town. Mike Nick, glide, Chuck

1970
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:50,220
Nikolai Nikolai Chuck.

1971
01:58:50,250 --> 01:58:52,500
He's gone into so many times you
think you know how to pronounce

1972
01:58:52,500 --> 01:58:53,370
his name by now.

1973
01:58:54,090 --> 01:58:57,900
You think I almost had around
the last show he says and he's

1974
01:58:57,900 --> 01:59:00,930
in the parents of Canada
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan double

1975
01:59:00,930 --> 01:59:03,690
nickels on the dime donated. I
do apologize for giving Adam a

1976
01:59:03,690 --> 01:59:09,030
hard time and chat. Oh, he's the
one. He loves you guys. He loves

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Minnesota 50 What happened to
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I thought that was good. Yeah. I
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anything you've done. So well.
Okay. And that'll be our donors

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It's due Monday.

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We're gonna skip that. Do the
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It was due Monday. I'll just
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Cox Communications. Yeah. And
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name of the spot is Cox DP two
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really? Like it's like for Cox
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Just send them this clip. I feel
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Just send that

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okay, this is Adam curry Vox
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Well put it shove it back in.
Get rid of it. Um, so there was

2050
02:04:14,429 --> 02:04:19,379
something I've been saving this.
There was something quite

2051
02:04:19,379 --> 02:04:24,569
interesting that caught my eye.
A report that came out from the

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02:04:24,569 --> 02:04:29,159
CDC that was all over the news
interspersed in between all of

2053
02:04:29,159 --> 02:04:33,299
the bull crap about stirring up
racism in America. I don't know

2054
02:04:33,299 --> 02:04:36,869
if you've seen this report,
John. The CDC released a report

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02:04:37,229 --> 02:04:41,639
that stated that one in 88
children in the United States of

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02:04:41,639 --> 02:04:47,129
Gitmo nation has autism. Yeah,
yeah. And so of course, I'm

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02:04:47,129 --> 02:04:54,029
like, wow, let me dive into
this. And so I have the report.

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02:04:54,479 --> 02:04:57,509
And all of the fact there's a
whole it's under vaccines.

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02:04:57,509 --> 02:05:04,949
Obviously. There's an Higher
listing in the shownotes 396, on

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02:05:04,949 --> 02:05:13,349
na shownotes.com, which includes
the the actual CDC report. And I

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02:05:13,349 --> 02:05:17,039
noticed something new. And I
have some data to back it up.

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This is they've changed the
definition of, of this disease,

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02:05:25,169 --> 02:05:30,389
from autism, to the autism
spectrum disorder. And this is

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very significant. But first, let
me bring you the co chair of the

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02:05:37,679 --> 02:05:43,169
autism a subcommittee. And she
has nice little a video talking

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02:05:43,169 --> 02:05:48,719
about this, this new survey,
which by the way, everyone says

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02:05:48,749 --> 02:05:54,419
we're not sure whether more
children have Autism Spectrum

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02:05:54,419 --> 02:05:58,559
Disorder, or we just have better
ways of researching and we're

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02:05:58,559 --> 02:06:03,929
finding more of them. So it's a
little bit of an unfair report

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02:06:03,929 --> 02:06:07,859
to say, there's more kids than
ever that have autism, because

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02:06:07,859 --> 02:06:10,529
it may just be because all of a
sudden, their research improves

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02:06:10,529 --> 02:06:12,779
somehow and they know what it
is, let's just listen to her for

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02:06:12,779 --> 02:06:15,149
a second. To set us all up
physicians

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02:06:15,180 --> 02:06:21,420
and primary care providers need
to be comfortable and reassuring

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02:06:21,420 --> 02:06:25,290
parents that this is not due to
vaccination practice.

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02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:27,870
All right, I'm sorry, I forgot
to mention and none of this, of

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02:06:27,870 --> 02:06:30,990
course is due to vaccination
practice. And physicians need to

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02:06:30,990 --> 02:06:34,350
be comfortable saying this,

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02:06:34,740 --> 02:06:39,630
and to help them identify
resources in their communities,

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02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:43,830
for effective treatment, and for
the support that they need.

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02:06:44,429 --> 02:06:47,219
So effective treatment. Now
these things are catching my

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02:06:47,219 --> 02:06:49,619
eye. And let's listen to another
little bit of her about

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02:06:49,619 --> 02:06:51,539
screening and effective
treatment

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02:06:51,570 --> 02:06:55,320
for pediatricians and the
primary care providers providing

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02:06:55,320 --> 02:07:00,270
a medical home. It's, it's
really very important to pay

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02:07:00,270 --> 02:07:03,330
attention to the Academy of
Pediatric screening

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02:07:03,330 --> 02:07:08,220
recommendations, to do a formal
screening evaluation for autism

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02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:13,890
at 18 and 24 months of age, when
children fail screening and

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02:07:13,890 --> 02:07:18,990
referred for a second, more
expert diagnosis, either to a

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02:07:18,990 --> 02:07:22,320
developmental and behavioral
pediatrician, child neurologist

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02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:26,580
or child psychiatrist. It's
really very important that

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02:07:26,970 --> 02:07:33,630
standard diagnostic criteria are
used, so that we can best serve

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02:07:33,630 --> 02:07:37,590
children make the most accurate
diagnoses, and refer children

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02:07:37,590 --> 02:07:39,330
for effective treatment.

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02:07:39,570 --> 02:07:46,140
Okay, so a couple things here. I
have two analyses of this, and

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02:07:46,140 --> 02:07:50,700
I'll give you the most likely
one first, which is just

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02:07:50,730 --> 02:07:56,700
unbelievable. So what you're
hearing her say, is we have to

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02:07:56,700 --> 02:08:01,380
have across the board, the
everyone has to screen for

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02:08:01,380 --> 02:08:06,930
autism in the exact same way.
Now, I look at the definition of

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02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:10,890
autism. And this is as defined
by the Autism Society of

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02:08:10,890 --> 02:08:14,400
America, I quote as he just said
it actually autism is a complex

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02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:17,790
developmental disability that
typically appears during the

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02:08:17,790 --> 02:08:21,930
first three years of life. And
as the result of a neurological

2104
02:08:21,930 --> 02:08:25,500
disorder that affects the normal
functioning of the brain,

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02:08:25,770 --> 02:08:29,040
impacting development in the
areas of social interaction and

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02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:32,700
communication skills. both
children and adults with autism

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02:08:32,700 --> 02:08:35,550
typically show difficulties in
verbal and nonverbal

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02:08:35,550 --> 02:08:41,490
communication. But you can't do
a CAT scan, you can't take

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02:08:41,490 --> 02:08:45,450
blood. This is as determined by
someone who will sit with your

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02:08:45,450 --> 02:08:51,900
child, typically between 18 and
24 months, and here are some of

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02:08:51,900 --> 02:08:54,510
the characteristics they will be
looking at. And notice, by the

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02:08:54,510 --> 02:08:58,650
way that you can fail the autism
screening, which I thought was

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02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:03,030
an astounding use of the word.
If you fail, then we have to

2114
02:09:03,030 --> 02:09:05,130
move over to effective
treatment, which I'll get to in

2115
02:09:05,130 --> 02:09:08,850
a moment. So here are some of
the things that are most

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02:09:08,850 --> 02:09:12,330
commonly found characteristics
of autism and autism. By the

2117
02:09:12,330 --> 02:09:15,390
way, there's something real
going on here. I'm not making

2118
02:09:15,390 --> 02:09:18,900
light of this, but we know it's
not vaccines that's out of the

2119
02:09:18,900 --> 02:09:24,450
question. The child is unable to
coup by 12 months, the child

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02:09:24,450 --> 02:09:28,950
does not point or gesture by 12
months does not say single words

2121
02:09:28,950 --> 02:09:33,570
by 16 months, does not say two
or more words by 24 months and

2122
02:09:33,570 --> 02:09:38,130
has lost some of social skills
or language abilities. Other

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02:09:38,130 --> 02:09:43,320
characteristic characteristics
include no fear of danger, over

2124
02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:48,000
or under sensitivity to pain,
may avoid eye contact with you

2125
02:09:48,180 --> 02:09:53,040
may prefer to be by him or
herself. This is me by the way,

2126
02:09:53,610 --> 02:09:57,390
has difficulty expressing what
they want or need. They may try

2127
02:09:57,390 --> 02:10:01,860
to use gestures may echo words
or phrases may say can't

2128
02:10:01,860 --> 02:10:06,000
point Can't they get away that
was okay going sorry maze make

2129
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:06,330
sense

2130
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:10,350
may spin him or herself. Objects
that's kind

2131
02:10:10,350 --> 02:10:13,650
of cool place in the 60s Stop
kiss stop spinning,

2132
02:10:14,250 --> 02:10:18,090
prolong repetitive play may
insist on things routines always

2133
02:10:18,090 --> 02:10:20,940
being the same. So this sounds
like a number of different

2134
02:10:20,940 --> 02:10:24,330
things. Yeah, does it? Well,
this is very important because

2135
02:10:24,330 --> 02:10:29,820
this boils down to the writing
at this very moment of the DSM

2136
02:10:29,850 --> 02:10:35,550
five. And the DSM five is so
we're currently at number four.

2137
02:10:35,850 --> 02:10:40,770
DSM five is the it's the book,
it's the Bible on mental

2138
02:10:40,770 --> 02:10:44,460
disorders. And they have changed
something, as I said earlier,

2139
02:10:44,460 --> 02:10:50,070
they have changed something. And
they are now including all other

2140
02:10:50,070 --> 02:10:55,380
symptoms, such as Asperger's,
obsessive compulsive disorder,

2141
02:10:56,820 --> 02:11:01,680
depression, all these different
symptoms, and they're putting it

2142
02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:08,340
all into the autistic spectrum
diagnosis. And this is very

2143
02:11:08,340 --> 02:11:14,220
important. And this comes out in
the new year. Because of this,

2144
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:19,500
the drug companies will now be
able to market drugs. And this

2145
02:11:19,500 --> 02:11:22,500
comes down to the effective
treatment, they will be able to

2146
02:11:22,500 --> 02:11:28,920
market drugs based upon symptoms
of autism spectrum disorder. So

2147
02:11:28,950 --> 02:11:34,290
for instance, we already have
this with Alzheimer's. So with

2148
02:11:34,290 --> 02:11:38,700
Alzheimer's, you can say, well,
you know, one of the symptoms of

2149
02:11:38,700 --> 02:11:43,290
Alzheimer's is you can't tie
your shoelaces. So we have a

2150
02:11:43,290 --> 02:11:46,530
drug for tying your shoelaces.
So even though you may not

2151
02:11:46,530 --> 02:11:51,330
really have autism, necessarily,
you may have one of the symptoms

2152
02:11:51,330 --> 02:11:55,110
which we already have a drug
for, that we can now include as

2153
02:11:55,110 --> 02:11:58,710
a drug for autism. Are you with
me?

2154
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:01,770
You know, it's Yeah, yeah.

2155
02:12:02,040 --> 02:12:08,940
So some of the newer anti
psychotic medications, which so

2156
02:12:08,940 --> 02:12:13,200
far have been prescribed. What
do you call it or not off book

2157
02:12:13,680 --> 02:12:16,770
off label? Are?

2158
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:19,950
Right, you explain what off
label is to people that don't

2159
02:12:19,950 --> 02:12:20,160
know

2160
02:12:20,190 --> 02:12:23,850
off label means it was approved
by the FDA, the Food and Drug

2161
02:12:23,850 --> 02:12:29,250
Administration for treatment of
one particular symptom of

2162
02:12:29,250 --> 02:12:32,730
something. And they'll say, but
you know, you can use this

2163
02:12:32,730 --> 02:12:36,420
instead of Viagra because it
also works for that. Or, you

2164
02:12:36,420 --> 02:12:40,650
know, if you have Aspergers,
then this antidepressant, you

2165
02:12:40,650 --> 02:12:43,200
can use that for that it's not
officially approved for but you

2166
02:12:43,200 --> 02:12:46,830
can use it off label for that.
So this will now enable the drug

2167
02:12:46,830 --> 02:12:53,130
companies to prescribe
Risperidone Zyprexa and Gio dawn

2168
02:12:54,360 --> 02:13:00,090
for autistic spectrum disorder.
And wouldn't you know, that Gio

2169
02:13:00,090 --> 02:13:09,930
Dawn has gone generic that
Zyprexa has gone generic. So my

2170
02:13:09,930 --> 02:13:14,520
obvious conclusion is that this
is taking into account that

2171
02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:18,930
they're not sure if actually
autism and ASD has increased or

2172
02:13:18,930 --> 02:13:22,860
they just have better research
methods, that this is a

2173
02:13:22,890 --> 02:13:31,530
horrible, horrible way to get
their out of patent drugs into

2174
02:13:31,530 --> 02:13:36,630
the system. With the addition
that the American Academy of

2175
02:13:36,630 --> 02:13:40,680
Pediatrics is now recommending
autism screening for all

2176
02:13:40,680 --> 02:13:46,830
children between 18 months and
two years old. So you have a

2177
02:13:46,830 --> 02:13:51,270
very good chance that the doctor
is going to say, kid can't point

2178
02:13:52,140 --> 02:13:55,860
kids spinning. Get them on some
drugs and these drugs are

2179
02:13:55,890 --> 02:13:59,610
antidepressant and put them on
drugs. They're psychotic drugs

2180
02:13:59,610 --> 02:14:02,070
or psychotropic they're anti
science really

2181
02:14:02,070 --> 02:14:03,060
make him nuts.

2182
02:14:03,090 --> 02:14:06,840
It's really, really an outrage.

2183
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:10,260
That's a total outrageous,
ridiculous what's going on? And

2184
02:14:10,260 --> 02:14:12,930
it's there's also something
wrong with the patent system,

2185
02:14:12,930 --> 02:14:16,530
because the idea, of course, is
to is to get a patent extension,

2186
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:19,770
of course, or this new use of
court. And so this stuff stays

2187
02:14:19,770 --> 02:14:23,730
kind of, you know, in patent,
which is bullcrap. You know,

2188
02:14:23,730 --> 02:14:26,100
it's they when there's something
goes generic, for whatever

2189
02:14:26,100 --> 02:14:29,880
reason, it's, it's an invention
that was very Yeah, it was used

2190
02:14:29,880 --> 02:14:33,510
for something specific. But once
that molecule is invented in the

2191
02:14:33,510 --> 02:14:37,050
process for making it, which is
part of the patent, usually,

2192
02:14:37,410 --> 02:14:41,160
that gets passed the date, where
it goes out of patent, it's not

2193
02:14:41,160 --> 02:14:43,260
a patent. I don't care what else
it can be used for. It could be

2194
02:14:43,260 --> 02:14:47,670
used as a diet pill or opera or,
you know, something to relieve

2195
02:14:48,120 --> 02:14:49,410
stomach aches, who cares?

2196
02:14:49,680 --> 02:14:53,640
But you see, the thing is they
can say, well, because your kid

2197
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:58,470
has asked Is it because your kid
has his falls within the the

2198
02:14:58,470 --> 02:15:01,290
Autistic Spectrum Disorder.
Order Now, which includes all

2199
02:15:01,290 --> 02:15:05,220
these other symptoms, they can
say, well, you know, you need

2200
02:15:05,220 --> 02:15:10,380
some antidepressant. 18 months,
John, they're gonna put 18 Month

2201
02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:14,430
18 month children on
antidepressants.

2202
02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:16,920
Yeah, I wonder what that's gonna
do for the general population

2203
02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:18,930
when these people get older now
now,

2204
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:22,020
so that is obviously what is
happening, I have a little

2205
02:15:22,020 --> 02:15:25,530
different opinion, which may
sound a little crack potty but

2206
02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:29,370
because knowing this thing,
well, actually, let me play the

2207
02:15:29,820 --> 02:15:32,910
this is very interesting. This
was a CNN autism report. And

2208
02:15:32,910 --> 02:15:38,370
right at the beginning, it
starts off with this kid who has

2209
02:15:38,370 --> 02:15:42,000
autism, and he's on his iPad,
and you got to see the video.

2210
02:15:42,180 --> 02:15:45,960
And he is he's, he's rolling
through this thing. He's, he's

2211
02:15:45,990 --> 02:15:49,980
incredibly fast. You'd like Rain
Man on the iPad. It's also a

2212
02:15:49,980 --> 02:15:53,010
little iPad promotion in there.
But it's just like, like, I've

2213
02:15:53,010 --> 02:15:56,790
never, I mean, I can't use my
iPad as effectively and quickly

2214
02:15:56,790 --> 02:16:01,410
as this kid and he's like doing
stuff. And just listen to all

2215
02:16:01,410 --> 02:16:04,770
the different we're the experts,
by the way, who who pop up in

2216
02:16:04,770 --> 02:16:09,360
this thing are all from an
Autism Clinic, commercial

2217
02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:12,150
clinic. So you know, and it's
Sanjay Gupta, so you know,

2218
02:16:12,150 --> 02:16:13,410
something's up but just listen
to it.

2219
02:16:13,710 --> 02:16:16,590
Frankie Sanders is a ninth
grader who loves to play chess

2220
02:16:16,590 --> 02:16:19,920
on his iPad, and is trying to
pass the test for his driver's

2221
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:24,270
permit. Frankie also has autism.
As you may know, that's a

2222
02:16:24,270 --> 02:16:28,320
neurodevelopmental disorder that
affects language, behavior, and

2223
02:16:28,320 --> 02:16:33,030
social skills. Boys make up the
vast majority of cases. What you

2224
02:16:33,030 --> 02:16:35,580
may not know is that 12 years
ago, the Centers for Disease

2225
02:16:35,580 --> 02:16:38,760
Control and Prevention began to
estimate the total number of

2226
02:16:38,760 --> 02:16:42,330
cases in the United States. they
based it on a count of eight

2227
02:16:42,330 --> 02:16:46,560
year old children with autism in
select communities. If you look

2228
02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:51,360
back in the years 2002 1002, it
was about one child, and 150

2229
02:16:51,390 --> 02:16:58,860
with autism, two years later,
one in 125, then one in 110. And

2230
02:16:58,860 --> 02:17:02,670
now the latest report, as of
2008, the last time an estimate

2231
02:17:02,670 --> 02:17:07,230
was performed. One in 80
Children has autism. That's a

2232
02:17:07,230 --> 02:17:11,850
78% increase just over the last
decade. And the question on a

2233
02:17:11,850 --> 02:17:13,920
lot of people's minds is why

2234
02:17:14,070 --> 02:17:17,220
how much of that increase is a
result of better tracking and

2235
02:17:17,220 --> 02:17:20,640
how much of it is a result of an
actual increase? We still don't

2236
02:17:20,640 --> 02:17:20,970
know.

2237
02:17:21,209 --> 02:17:25,229
Researchers have discovered many
genes linked autism. But in most

2238
02:17:25,229 --> 02:17:29,129
cases, genes are only one part
of the equation. And genes alone

2239
02:17:29,159 --> 02:17:33,089
wouldn't change that fast. In
just 10 years. There is

2240
02:17:33,089 --> 02:17:35,069
something else that triggers the
problem.

2241
02:17:35,580 --> 02:17:39,000
We're talking about infections,
we're talking about social

2242
02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:42,690
conditions, and we're talking
about exposures to toxins things

2243
02:17:42,690 --> 02:17:43,470
in the environment,

2244
02:17:43,650 --> 02:17:46,740
researchers are still looking
for answers. But what they do

2245
02:17:46,740 --> 02:17:51,690
know is that diagnosing children
early is critical. As was the

2246
02:17:51,690 --> 02:17:53,760
case with Frankie Sanders.

2247
02:17:53,970 --> 02:17:56,730
Franklin was diagnosed when he
was 15 months old, he

2248
02:17:56,760 --> 02:17:59,820
immediately began to get speech
therapy and occupational therapy

2249
02:17:59,820 --> 02:18:03,750
and physical therapy, he was
placed in a group with kids who

2250
02:18:03,750 --> 02:18:04,920
were typically developing

2251
02:18:04,980 --> 02:18:09,300
all that hard work is paying
off. Frankie is now 15. He

2252
02:18:09,300 --> 02:18:12,540
attends a regular high school
and plays on the football team.

2253
02:18:12,750 --> 02:18:17,490
We can diagnose autism, at two
years of age, almost always by

2254
02:18:17,520 --> 02:18:21,990
90% of the children by three
certainly. And we actually can

2255
02:18:21,990 --> 02:18:24,060
diagnose it at 18 months and
many children.

2256
02:18:24,329 --> 02:18:27,779
But according to this new
report, most cases are diagnosed

2257
02:18:27,779 --> 02:18:31,439
late after age two or three.
That's when therapy has been

2258
02:18:31,439 --> 02:18:34,319
shown to help the most,
especially with speech and

2259
02:18:34,319 --> 02:18:35,129
communication.

2260
02:18:35,309 --> 02:18:41,189
Parents need to be aware of
their children and how their

2261
02:18:41,189 --> 02:18:42,389
children they're interacting.

2262
02:18:42,540 --> 02:18:45,030
And then they need to seek help.

2263
02:18:45,209 --> 02:18:48,179
If you as a parent are concerned
about your child, talk to your

2264
02:18:48,179 --> 02:18:51,209
doctor talk to your school
system to see if they shouldn't

2265
02:18:51,209 --> 02:18:54,389
be assessed get them assessed.
This is small this is big keep

2266
02:18:54,389 --> 02:18:54,749
going.

2267
02:18:55,020 --> 02:18:56,580
Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNRS

2268
02:18:56,910 --> 02:19:00,960
so there Sanjay Gupta pushing
you pushing you as a parent to

2269
02:19:00,990 --> 02:19:04,380
hey, my kids, we're the kids
spin in doing whatever it is. I

2270
02:19:04,380 --> 02:19:08,280
love the spinning thing. Yeah.
You know, and and what they've

2271
02:19:08,280 --> 02:19:11,520
taken, they've taken this poor
boy and they forced him into

2272
02:19:11,520 --> 02:19:16,860
football, which I think is
wrong. And here's what I believe

2273
02:19:16,860 --> 02:19:18,660
John, what forced him into

2274
02:19:18,660 --> 02:19:20,280
football, ya know, that

2275
02:19:20,279 --> 02:19:21,269
physical shit,

2276
02:19:21,510 --> 02:19:23,580
I think make him code.

2277
02:19:23,699 --> 02:19:27,899
Look, we as you know, bringing
up the vaccine thing, which,

2278
02:19:28,319 --> 02:19:30,839
interestingly, was not in the
report because of course, you

2279
02:19:30,839 --> 02:19:34,019
know, that's all fake. That's
all false. That's not happening.

2280
02:19:34,019 --> 02:19:37,379
That's not true. It can't be
anything in the vaccines. By the

2281
02:19:37,379 --> 02:19:40,109
way, you should have your child
screened for autism, when

2282
02:19:40,109 --> 02:19:44,159
they're 18 months after they've
received received the first 20

2283
02:19:44,249 --> 02:19:47,249
vaccinations. That would be a
good time to go and check and

2284
02:19:47,249 --> 02:19:49,709
see if they've developed autism.
But I'm not a medical expert and

2285
02:19:49,709 --> 02:19:53,639
that's, you know, oh, your anti
backs or whatever. I think we

2286
02:19:53,639 --> 02:19:57,809
are seeing evolution. And I
really believe that the children

2287
02:19:57,809 --> 02:20:01,439
who are being born now aren't
have evolved species are

2288
02:20:01,439 --> 02:20:10,379
incredibly smart, have something
beyond our comprehension. And we

2289
02:20:10,379 --> 02:20:13,949
need to drug the shit out of
them because we can't have the

2290
02:20:13,949 --> 02:20:18,569
smart kids running around. I
really think there's something

2291
02:20:18,599 --> 02:20:19,769
going on. That's an interesting

2292
02:20:19,770 --> 02:20:23,490
crackpot idea. Now, let me
mention something that was that

2293
02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:26,130
that's going around a little
piece of information, there is a

2294
02:20:26,310 --> 02:20:29,310
thing. It's called Flynn's law.
Flynn's axiom or something like

2295
02:20:29,310 --> 02:20:33,330
that is that every generation,
and there's a punch line to

2296
02:20:33,330 --> 02:20:37,890
this, every generation that that
comes along is it has actually,

2297
02:20:38,010 --> 02:20:41,340
technically a higher IQ than the
generation that preceded it.

2298
02:20:41,730 --> 02:20:45,720
Yes, at core, it's just a common
thing if evolution. And now and

2299
02:20:45,900 --> 02:20:47,970
obviously it has something to do
with it. I do have to mention

2300
02:20:47,970 --> 02:20:53,340
one little gotcha. Which is, and
this has always been true until

2301
02:20:54,420 --> 02:21:02,100
right now when only in one area
in get mo nation east. The UK,

2302
02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:05,220
the IQ for the first time it
that's the only reason the US is

2303
02:21:05,220 --> 02:21:09,300
still going up. Went down.
Really? Yeah. Whose report is

2304
02:21:09,300 --> 02:21:11,820
that? Isn't that interesting?
I'm working on getting the

2305
02:21:11,820 --> 02:21:14,520
documentation for that JC was
telling me about it. Really?

2306
02:21:14,850 --> 02:21:16,230
Yeah. And that weird, they got

2307
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:17,640
dumber? Yeah.

2308
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:23,190
Aren't you glad you left? Well,
no, it's too late for me.

2309
02:21:24,900 --> 02:21:28,140
But you know, there's I'm really
thinking that something else is

2310
02:21:28,140 --> 02:21:30,960
going on, because they can't
find it, the geniuses can't find

2311
02:21:30,960 --> 02:21:34,560
so either. They're all really,
really horrible people, and they

2312
02:21:34,560 --> 02:21:37,800
just want to help sell more
antidepressant crap, which I'm

2313
02:21:37,800 --> 02:21:39,960
not putting beyond the realm of
possibility.

2314
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:43,470
I'm really not I think there's a
big deal. I mean, when the

2315
02:21:43,470 --> 02:21:46,020
public relations agencies get
their act together, they can

2316
02:21:46,020 --> 02:21:47,220
really do a lot of damage.

2317
02:21:47,250 --> 02:21:51,300
Yeah, yeah. Well, someone really
went out on this one on the CDC

2318
02:21:51,300 --> 02:21:55,110
website. It's just all about
this and autism and, but it's

2319
02:21:55,110 --> 02:21:57,480
really it's get your kid
screened, get your kids gotta

2320
02:21:57,480 --> 02:22:01,350
get them screened. So, to me,
it's like, you know, everybody

2321
02:22:01,350 --> 02:22:04,440
wins on the on the side of evil,
you know, it's like a, we get to

2322
02:22:04,440 --> 02:22:08,340
sell them drugs, and we get to
suppress them into submission

2323
02:22:08,340 --> 02:22:11,520
and be a slave our way, you
know, not, you don't get to

2324
02:22:11,520 --> 02:22:14,250
choose your hamburger, you know,
we're going to put you on these

2325
02:22:14,250 --> 02:22:20,070
drugs, you need to play football
son. And it's disturbing to me

2326
02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:24,750
and I would love to hear from I
know, I'm sure just looking at

2327
02:22:24,750 --> 02:22:28,650
these percentages, we must have
a lot of parents who have kids

2328
02:22:28,650 --> 02:22:30,900
who are on the spectrum, as it's
called, I've read several books

2329
02:22:30,900 --> 02:22:35,310
on the on the topic. Some of the
authors that I interviewed for

2330
02:22:35,310 --> 02:22:39,210
the big book show, right? Boy,
they have kids with autism and

2331
02:22:39,210 --> 02:22:43,170
write books about it, and it's
called on the spectrum. And most

2332
02:22:43,170 --> 02:22:48,540
of them don't don't believe the
vaccine story. Yeah, but I you

2333
02:22:48,540 --> 02:22:53,580
know, I've I know parents with
with autistic kids. And, yeah,

2334
02:22:53,580 --> 02:22:56,640
they spin a lot, but they're
very entertaining.

2335
02:22:57,540 --> 02:22:59,460
Now, that's funny. No, no, I
mean

2336
02:22:59,460 --> 02:23:04,950
it but there's they're not. Not
all kids on the spectrum as

2337
02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:08,010
a form of autism, he would be
probably drugged today. His

2338
02:23:08,010 --> 02:23:10,740
drug? Bill Gates, I don't think
so. But I just don't think

2339
02:23:10,740 --> 02:23:13,440
drugging is the answer. Drinking
is not the answer. By the way

2340
02:23:13,440 --> 02:23:17,280
that lower I've got the link,
I'll send it to you for the IQ

2341
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:20,970
thing showed up in prospect
magazine. Out of the UK,

2342
02:23:20,970 --> 02:23:24,810
actually. It says average IQ is
falling in Britain and beyond. I

2343
02:23:24,810 --> 02:23:27,870
guess there's a few other places
too. Intelligence quotients have

2344
02:23:27,870 --> 02:23:30,150
written in developed nations for
almost a century, that

2345
02:23:30,150 --> 02:23:34,080
phenomenon called the Flynn
effect was first identified in

2346
02:23:34,080 --> 02:23:39,030
1984 in the United States. But
apparently it's now reversing in

2347
02:23:39,030 --> 02:23:43,290
certain parts of the world. But
Britain has found the reversal.

2348
02:23:43,950 --> 02:23:46,830
It's also Norway and Denmark are
the other two.

2349
02:23:48,060 --> 02:23:50,790
And a lot of people are saying,
Well, it's because of all the

2350
02:23:50,790 --> 02:23:54,780
toxins and mothers are drinking
fluoride and all of that. I'm

2351
02:23:54,780 --> 02:23:56,760
just not buying it. You know,

2352
02:23:56,880 --> 02:23:59,670
about the autism? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

2353
02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:05,550
Just I, yeah. Yeah. I don't
know. Perhaps. Well, we don't

2354
02:24:05,550 --> 02:24:08,460
know. The thing is, they don't
know. And the way they test is

2355
02:24:08,460 --> 02:24:09,690
like, the kids spin, they

2356
02:24:09,690 --> 02:24:11,520
don't care. They all they're
gonna do is they're gonna give

2357
02:24:11,520 --> 02:24:14,310
the kids drugs. It's all they're
looking for an excuse. I'm, I'm

2358
02:24:14,310 --> 02:24:18,480
sorry, I totaled it, buy into
the bad aspect of it.

2359
02:24:19,740 --> 02:24:22,800
Well, that's okay. I mean, I do
too, but I have hope. I have a

2360
02:24:22,800 --> 02:24:25,830
hope that these are really just
special children who are

2361
02:24:26,160 --> 02:24:30,990
geniuses and they're going to,
you know, they're if I had to

2362
02:24:30,990 --> 02:24:35,040
put my money on the 200 million
ninjas, or the autism kids give

2363
02:24:35,040 --> 02:24:37,980
me the autism kids any day.
That's what I'm saying.

2364
02:24:38,220 --> 02:24:40,980
Yeah, well, you're the one that
brought the tuner Megan in just

2365
02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:43,770
the way they like to do these
you know, they like the way they

2366
02:24:43,770 --> 02:24:47,700
re define things over and over
and and remind you of something

2367
02:24:47,700 --> 02:24:52,350
I just read, actually was read.
Picked up there's a book by

2368
02:24:52,350 --> 02:24:55,740
turvy people might want to look
at called criminal profiling.

2369
02:24:56,280 --> 02:25:00,300
The book for the book club.
Witches were a part of Have the

2370
02:25:00,330 --> 02:25:03,660
early days of profiling. And of
course you're profiling these

2371
02:25:03,660 --> 02:25:10,170
kids do is to assume autism. I
want to read from the 1400s how

2372
02:25:10,170 --> 02:25:13,830
you would find in determines if
someone was a which I think is

2373
02:25:13,830 --> 02:25:15,120
quite abused doesn't have

2374
02:25:15,120 --> 02:25:16,200
to do with spinning.

2375
02:25:16,560 --> 02:25:21,000
No well maybe. I think I think
just think about this for a

2376
02:25:21,000 --> 02:25:23,940
while and we're you know, since
we're wrapping up the show about

2377
02:25:23,940 --> 02:25:27,930
what is a witch ready, yeah,
just the main main

2378
02:25:28,290 --> 02:25:31,200
characteristics and then I have
secondary characteristics which

2379
02:25:31,200 --> 02:25:33,810
are even more interesting. They
have a spot or scar or

2380
02:25:33,810 --> 02:25:37,110
birthmark, sometimes on the
genitals and sometimes invisible

2381
02:25:38,670 --> 02:25:45,720
to the inquisitors. I, they live
alone. They keep pets or no

2382
02:25:45,870 --> 02:25:49,620
cats. Uh huh. They suffer this
suffer symptoms of mental

2383
02:25:49,650 --> 02:25:54,030
illness, auditory or visual
hallucinations. They cultivate

2384
02:25:54,030 --> 02:26:00,120
medicinal herbs. No, they have
no children. This is the way

2385
02:26:00,120 --> 02:26:03,150
they were used to get rid of
spinsters and now here's

2386
02:26:03,150 --> 02:26:07,740
specific descriptions. witches
have the power to make men

2387
02:26:07,770 --> 02:26:13,350
impotent and unable to copulate
by looking at them it's what

2388
02:26:13,350 --> 02:26:16,890
you're getting a picture here of
Yeah, that's a whole lot of

2389
02:26:16,890 --> 02:26:24,360
second little sciences in which
is you spells images and charms.

2390
02:26:25,050 --> 02:26:30,780
Oh, my lucky charms and witches
cannot bear children. So this

2391
02:26:30,780 --> 02:26:33,450
was you know, so this was all
official. This is the same kind

2392
02:26:33,450 --> 02:26:35,160
of thing. This is that was

2393
02:26:35,160 --> 02:26:36,450
that was DSM one.

2394
02:26:36,570 --> 02:26:41,430
This is this is all the mumbo
jumbo bold crap used to

2395
02:26:41,430 --> 02:26:46,290
propagate some sort of a, a an
agenda. Yeah. And this in this

2396
02:26:46,290 --> 02:26:48,780
case, it was to get rid of the
homely girls that wouldn't screw

2397
02:26:48,780 --> 02:26:53,250
anybody I guess in the town. But
you know, so this is nothing

2398
02:26:53,250 --> 02:26:53,640
new.

2399
02:26:55,110 --> 02:26:58,770
But I'm saddened because I see
these parents you know, and

2400
02:26:58,770 --> 02:27:01,620
John, you're a parent you know,
if your kids spinning around and

2401
02:27:01,620 --> 02:27:07,470
the doctor says I love that
picture by spinning on his head,

2402
02:27:07,860 --> 02:27:09,660
like a breakdancer. It'd be

2403
02:27:09,660 --> 02:27:12,090
like dancer in the doctor says,
oh

2404
02:27:12,090 --> 02:27:17,370
my god your kid has has he's on
the spectrum. But you know, we

2405
02:27:17,370 --> 02:27:20,790
have an effective cure effective
cure. We're gonna teach them how

2406
02:27:20,790 --> 02:27:22,980
to play football and put them on
some drugs.

2407
02:27:23,580 --> 02:27:27,360
Yeah, football things a little
sick. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly

2408
02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:30,030
what doesn't want to play
football maybe likes the spin.

2409
02:27:30,060 --> 02:27:32,310
Yeah, he's gonna become a great
dancer. Great.

2410
02:27:32,820 --> 02:27:36,270
Exact Thank you. Now you're
talking my language? I think the

2411
02:27:36,270 --> 02:27:39,780
another term is indigo children,
Star children, indigo children.

2412
02:27:40,920 --> 02:27:44,370
everywhere but the UK? Well, I
wonder if the if autism isn't is

2413
02:27:44,370 --> 02:27:48,390
not as high if autism is
different in the UK. They're

2414
02:27:48,390 --> 02:27:54,090
just going in retardation. The
whole different problem. Anyway,

2415
02:27:54,930 --> 02:27:57,870
that's your pharmaceutical
industry. Everybody. doping.

2416
02:27:57,870 --> 02:28:03,840
Yup. So Do with it as you wish.
All we do here is just tried to

2417
02:28:04,230 --> 02:28:09,240
pull it all apart and show you
what's going on. And

2418
02:28:09,449 --> 02:28:12,059
yeah, there's something else
that should be mentioned, since

2419
02:28:12,059 --> 02:28:14,579
we're talking about medical
stuff. Yeah, it was a real

2420
02:28:14,579 --> 02:28:17,609
interesting article. It ran
around nature and and then I

2421
02:28:17,609 --> 02:28:20,459
guess was reported by Reuters,
which just really makes you

2422
02:28:20,459 --> 02:28:25,589
wonder about any of this stuff.
I'm just read a quote. By the

2423
02:28:25,589 --> 02:28:28,379
way, The Economist made during a
decade as Head of Global cancer

2424
02:28:28,379 --> 02:28:31,979
research at Amgen. Glenn Begley
identiv. You know about this?

2425
02:28:32,009 --> 02:28:37,289
No, but I know 53 landmark
publications and top journals

2426
02:28:37,289 --> 02:28:40,079
from reputable labs, it turns
out, they can't reproduce any of

2427
02:28:40,079 --> 02:28:43,739
these cancer things. Because it
turned out that the people that

2428
02:28:43,739 --> 02:28:47,549
were investing, you know, taking
money from people to donate to

2429
02:28:47,549 --> 02:28:51,239
cancer research would only give
money if you showed something

2430
02:28:51,239 --> 02:28:54,479
positive. So if you'd like work
your ass off for three years on

2431
02:28:54,479 --> 02:28:57,989
a cancer study, and it show up
positive found out nothing, you

2432
02:28:57,989 --> 02:29:01,979
get no money. Yeah, of course.
So we got to have the cure. So

2433
02:29:01,979 --> 02:29:06,359
that so all these reports. So
apparently 53 landmark reports

2434
02:29:06,359 --> 02:29:08,669
are all bogus. Yeah. Oh, really?

2435
02:29:08,670 --> 02:29:10,200
53? Do we have a list?

2436
02:29:10,350 --> 02:29:15,780
Yeah, he does have a list. She's
like she said, the 5347 couldn't

2437
02:29:15,780 --> 02:29:19,110
be replicated. So in other
words, most of them are bogus.

2438
02:29:19,140 --> 02:29:22,890
It was just because of the this
is the problem that we have.

2439
02:29:23,160 --> 02:29:27,060
Just generally speaking, it's a
completely corrupt system. That

2440
02:29:27,060 --> 02:29:30,090
can't even get us you know, real
information we and we won't

2441
02:29:30,090 --> 02:29:33,420
admit it, somebody won't find
won't find a report that doesn't

2442
02:29:33,420 --> 02:29:35,910
come up with something positive.
They got to feel good about

2443
02:29:35,910 --> 02:29:38,940
their, their, you know, in their
philanthropy.

2444
02:29:38,970 --> 02:29:44,670
Well, I'll tell you, man, we've
got to be so careful. There was

2445
02:29:44,670 --> 02:29:47,370
another report that came out
first of all, the IPCC came out

2446
02:29:47,370 --> 02:29:53,970
with a new report. Unbelievable.
Evidence suggests that climate

2447
02:29:53,970 --> 02:29:56,460
change has led to extreme
weather conditions such as heat

2448
02:29:56,460 --> 02:29:58,710
waves record high temperatures,
and in many regions heavy

2449
02:29:58,710 --> 02:30:03,420
precipitation. This is the new
IPCC, Intergovernmental Panel on

2450
02:30:03,420 --> 02:30:04,260
Climate Change,

2451
02:30:04,350 --> 02:30:09,390
report, stop for a minute. I
have to ask a question. Isn't

2452
02:30:09,390 --> 02:30:11,550
climate and weather two
different things? So aren't

2453
02:30:11,550 --> 02:30:11,760
they?

2454
02:30:12,480 --> 02:30:15,300
Yeah, well, this is why we have
to have an official report to

2455
02:30:15,330 --> 02:30:18,690
put that back in. Because that
climate is weather climate is

2456
02:30:18,690 --> 02:30:22,440
weather, correct? Oh, they've
changed it. Yes, climate is

2457
02:30:22,440 --> 02:30:29,130
whether you've got it. But then
I ran across this news release

2458
02:30:29,730 --> 02:30:35,730
from the University of Oregon.
And this woman is Carrie Marie

2459
02:30:35,760 --> 02:30:40,200
Norgaard, Professor of Sociology
and Environmental Studies at the

2460
02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:44,790
University of Oh, and she has
put out a paper which is

2461
02:30:46,830 --> 02:30:56,190
sciences in fact, resistance at
individual and societal levels

2462
02:30:56,490 --> 02:31:01,290
must be recognized and treated
before real action can be taken

2463
02:31:01,290 --> 02:31:04,620
to effectively address threats
facing the planet from human

2464
02:31:04,620 --> 02:31:08,910
caused contributions to climate
change. You know what that

2465
02:31:08,910 --> 02:31:09,750
means? Don't you?

2466
02:31:11,130 --> 02:31:15,510
Yeah, curry DeVore AK town for
your pair. Time for you

2467
02:31:15,660 --> 02:31:19,830
know anybody saying anything? We
must you must obey. You must

2468
02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:20,700
obey. No, yeah,

2469
02:31:20,730 --> 02:31:25,830
but not just that. I'm looking
for it. I don't know what it is.

2470
02:31:25,890 --> 02:31:33,000
I always I always missed that
one. I'm lame. Hey, but we have

2471
02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:38,010
to be treated. That's the worst
part. We have to be treated.

2472
02:31:38,040 --> 02:31:40,020
Treated means drugs, my friend.

2473
02:31:42,330 --> 02:31:45,240
Well, you know, I think you
know, Clinton, by the ways I

2474
02:31:45,240 --> 02:31:48,450
think he's being treated because
he now It played the clip. He

2475
02:31:48,450 --> 02:31:49,800
now thinks he's a woman.

2476
02:31:52,050 --> 02:31:56,310
What? Yeah, Hillary or Bill,
Bill. Now?

2477
02:31:56,400 --> 02:32:00,810
How can women like me? Who want
to help women in Haiti and other

2478
02:32:00,810 --> 02:32:06,840
places across the world? I
actually do that all right. All

2479
02:32:06,840 --> 02:32:13,980
right. You get it my friend what
an idiot.

2480
02:32:14,310 --> 02:32:19,230
And he's also at the big meeting
of the universities he's just

2481
02:32:19,230 --> 02:32:21,510
sitting there guy looks
terrible, by the way. Yeah. Play

2482
02:32:21,510 --> 02:32:26,130
the other one the other Clinton
infects others clip. Oh, God,

2483
02:32:26,130 --> 02:32:27,210
this is what you make it oh,
wait,

2484
02:32:27,210 --> 02:32:30,090
there's more young people and
universities and colleges around

2485
02:32:30,090 --> 02:32:33,240
the country who do this? In
other words, instead of doing

2486
02:32:33,240 --> 02:32:35,820
what I do, which is try to bring
everybody many peoples who can

2487
02:32:35,820 --> 02:32:40,500
hear every year and get them to
go home and infect others. In a

2488
02:32:40,500 --> 02:32:41,250
positive way.

2489
02:32:41,460 --> 02:32:43,080
Was this this thing with John
Stuart

2490
02:32:43,110 --> 02:32:45,840
there was out that was no no,
this is the this is the Clinton

2491
02:32:45,840 --> 02:32:48,480
initiative. He has a university
meeting every year,

2492
02:32:48,900 --> 02:32:55,230
go home and infect somebody
bitches out of it. I don't think

2493
02:32:55,230 --> 02:32:56,610
I can compete with that.

2494
02:32:58,440 --> 02:33:04,020
Oh, wow. He's the dude. He needs
help. He needs help. Well, I do

2495
02:33:04,020 --> 02:33:07,860
have Senator Saxby Chambliss or
Senator sacks. Yes, Saxby

2496
02:33:07,860 --> 02:33:14,220
Chambliss from Georgia. And he
was on Morning Morning douche

2497
02:33:15,870 --> 02:33:20,790
with Milica virgin ski, whatever
her name is and Joe, Joe

2498
02:33:20,790 --> 02:33:23,550
scabbard, scabbard, Gabbard

2499
02:33:24,870 --> 02:33:29,550
and he said something that blew
me away about how what has

2500
02:33:29,550 --> 02:33:33,840
changed the partisanship of
politics doesn't give you gotta

2501
02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:34,380
get kicked out.

2502
02:33:35,130 --> 02:33:38,640
I think it still works the way
the framers intended for it to

2503
02:33:38,640 --> 02:33:44,910
work, particularly compared to
the house. But the fact of the

2504
02:33:44,910 --> 02:33:47,790
matter is, partisanship has
gotten worse and worse every

2505
02:33:47,790 --> 02:33:53,490
year that I've been there. And,
you know, you don't you don't

2506
02:33:53,490 --> 02:33:56,040
have folks arguing with each
other and then going outside and

2507
02:33:56,040 --> 02:33:58,770
having a drink together. Like
you used to hear about and we

2508
02:33:58,770 --> 02:34:00,300
still hear the stories about

2509
02:34:02,010 --> 02:34:04,530
I mean, so it's worse. I mean,
we always heard that when Newt

2510
02:34:04,530 --> 02:34:08,820
came to power when we came in
town, that that was the Great

2511
02:34:08,820 --> 02:34:12,330
Divide, but it's worse than it
was even in the 90s when we were

2512
02:34:12,330 --> 02:34:12,930
in the house.

2513
02:34:12,960 --> 02:34:15,330
Yeah, I don't think there's any
question but what is worse and I

2514
02:34:15,330 --> 02:34:19,290
think one thing that's made it
that way is CSPAN, very honestly

2515
02:34:23,400 --> 02:34:28,530
all 80 people watching Wow, it
sees that. There's a little more

2516
02:34:28,530 --> 02:34:28,710
to

2517
02:34:28,710 --> 02:34:33,090
it and you got folks on TV and
now they instead of doing

2518
02:34:33,480 --> 02:34:37,680
political commercials, they they
rant and rave during dinnertime,

2519
02:34:37,860 --> 02:34:40,710
the East Coast and then at nine
o'clock you see the West Coast

2520
02:34:40,710 --> 02:34:41,640
guys up there.

2521
02:34:41,940 --> 02:34:47,370
Does he really think is he now I
know the answer yes, he's

2522
02:34:47,370 --> 02:34:53,580
insane. Nobody watches C span
but us. Do you think his

2523
02:34:53,580 --> 02:34:54,390
constituents

2524
02:34:54,390 --> 02:34:57,840
watch and everybody in the
household I might add moans and

2525
02:34:57,840 --> 02:35:01,830
groans and you're watching on
Leave that crap.

2526
02:35:02,280 --> 02:35:04,950
Are you watching ugly people
again? Yeah, exactly.

2527
02:35:05,250 --> 02:35:08,160
Well of course you have to like
tape a lot of this stuff and

2528
02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:11,250
then watch it in my you know my
life nobody else's you

2529
02:35:11,490 --> 02:35:15,150
know I've got it on in the
studio and then you know if I if

2530
02:35:15,150 --> 02:35:18,030
I and it's continuously
recording so I can spin

2531
02:35:18,030 --> 02:35:21,330
something back if I see it. But
most of the time I have to it is

2532
02:35:21,330 --> 02:35:24,840
very handy out to say the C span
website. You can search the C

2533
02:35:24,840 --> 02:35:28,230
span websites Great. Yeah, well,
the video players sucks balls,

2534
02:35:28,230 --> 02:35:32,580
but you can you can search the
transcripts. Those are pretty

2535
02:35:32,580 --> 02:35:36,870
good. So you can just go and zip
in find some. And also sometimes

2536
02:35:36,870 --> 02:35:40,380
you like it stops. Like you're
an hour and 20 minutes.

2537
02:35:40,920 --> 02:35:43,140
And it Yeah, they have some they
have some technical issues. And

2538
02:35:43,140 --> 02:35:45,540
I wish they would have mp3 files
that you they just

2539
02:35:45,960 --> 02:35:50,010
they do but you have to pay for
him that you can you can buy

2540
02:35:50,040 --> 02:35:52,680
anything they have, but it cost
like 20 bucks.

2541
02:35:52,830 --> 02:35:55,080
Yeah, that's what I mean. They
should just have them available.

2542
02:35:55,110 --> 02:36:01,980
Yeah. Wow. Those badges. Yeah.
Otherwise you have to you have

2543
02:36:01,980 --> 02:36:04,890
to record it and and clip it.
Yeah. It's like just

2544
02:36:05,430 --> 02:36:09,840
Yeah, yeah. Well, that. Let that
be our problem. Because that's

2545
02:36:09,840 --> 02:36:10,380
what we

2546
02:36:10,380 --> 02:36:12,840
do. So you don't have to confess
right?

2547
02:36:13,200 --> 02:36:16,410
Are you doing Twitch today?
Yeah. Totally yo to get me on

2548
02:36:16,410 --> 02:36:17,190
one of these days.

2549
02:36:17,370 --> 02:36:19,920
I do that all constantly. And he
says no problem.

2550
02:36:21,960 --> 02:36:24,090
Yeah, yeah. Okay.

2551
02:36:24,359 --> 02:36:27,479
Yeah. I'll play for the Three
Stooges movie. Yes. Just a

2552
02:36:27,479 --> 02:36:27,929
little one.

2553
02:36:29,100 --> 02:36:32,910
Okay, well promote the show.
Will you? Absolutely enough

2554
02:36:32,910 --> 02:36:34,890
promoting that? The x three
thing

2555
02:36:34,950 --> 02:36:38,070
promote? No, I'm not promoting
the show and promote the show I

2556
02:36:38,700 --> 02:36:43,380
promoted by no agenda show. Or
agenda. show.com. Say? Mitt

2557
02:36:43,380 --> 02:36:44,970
Romney sucks.org. We'll

2558
02:36:44,970 --> 02:36:45,810
get a kick out of it.

2559
02:36:46,680 --> 02:36:49,860
Yeah, Leah would like that. Mitt
Romney sucks.org. Yeah,

2560
02:36:49,920 --> 02:36:50,550
do that. That's

2561
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:53,190
fun. It was mentioned in the
he'll type it in and then it was

2562
02:36:53,190 --> 02:36:55,620
go you go aha, not gonna say
April Fool's. Let me

2563
02:36:55,620 --> 02:36:58,050
just make sure it's actually
working. Mitt Romney sucks

2564
02:36:58,050 --> 02:37:01,290
nation, John. No, it's Romney.
sucks.org. News. Sorry.

2565
02:37:01,530 --> 02:37:02,520
Is it Romney sucks?

2566
02:37:02,700 --> 02:37:07,620
Not Mitt Romney? sucks.org. Yes.
Working Romney sucks.org.

2567
02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:11,700
Okay. Yep. Throw that in. So
yeah, we got a new way of

2568
02:37:11,700 --> 02:37:14,850
starting a new thing. We're I've
turned back to the April Fool's

2569
02:37:14,850 --> 02:37:20,910
gag and become a Democrat. I'm
not an independent. And we got

2570
02:37:20,910 --> 02:37:24,540
this new thing, Romney
sucks.org, which is up now and

2571
02:37:24,540 --> 02:37:28,440
then you'll type it right in
your website we've got and then

2572
02:37:28,440 --> 02:37:32,220
he'll type it in. There we go.
You'll feel bad about it.

2573
02:37:34,320 --> 02:37:39,690
Good. I'm staying awake. I'm not
going to take a nap. Excellent.

2574
02:37:40,320 --> 02:37:43,410
All right, everybody. Remember
John's birthday is on the fifth

2575
02:37:43,410 --> 02:37:48,000
so you can get a birthday
present in for him. Go to Dvorak

2576
02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:51,270
that org slash na. Of course, if
you want some cool, no agenda

2577
02:37:51,270 --> 02:37:54,090
stuff. We have no agenda
nation.com at the store, they're

2578
02:37:54,090 --> 02:37:58,230
run by Eric the shill who
graciously shares some of the

2579
02:37:58,230 --> 02:38:01,740
proceeds with the program that's
always good. And remember us.

2580
02:38:01,980 --> 02:38:04,500
When you're driving, you're
switching from N for no agenda

2581
02:38:04,500 --> 02:38:09,420
to D for donate. Support the
work as we're doing it.

2582
02:38:10,230 --> 02:38:14,220
twitching and spinning here in
camp mo fo and the capital of

2583
02:38:14,220 --> 02:38:17,370
the drones Star state that will
be Austin Tay Haas in the

2584
02:38:17,370 --> 02:38:19,410
morning, everybody. My name is
Adam curry.

2585
02:38:19,949 --> 02:38:25,229
And from Northern Silicon
Valley, where I'm sitting here

2586
02:38:25,289 --> 02:38:26,819
typing I'm John C. Dvorak.

2587
02:38:30,150 --> 02:38:31,710
And I'm reading what John is
typing.

2588
02:38:33,720 --> 02:38:37,770
Yeah, and we're bros. Yeah, we
are the pros. Everybody will

2589
02:38:37,770 --> 02:38:41,430
talk to you again on Thursday
right here on no agenda.

2590
02:38:56,430 --> 02:39:01,800
I feel terrible. I just cannot
sit here and concentrate on my

2591
02:39:01,800 --> 02:39:04,890
lines. Because I'm so nauseous.
How

2592
02:39:04,890 --> 02:39:08,910
can women like me who want to
help women in Haiti and other

2593
02:39:08,910 --> 02:39:16,230
places across the world?
Actually do that? devora.org/n A