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If you never can know exactly
what to expect, because well,

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quite frankly, we have no agenda
and it's time once again for the

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programme. It is this week's no
agenda coming to you from the

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curry manor in United Kingdom.
I'm Adam curry.

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And I'm John C. Dvorak up here
in northern California.

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And we've got a new, this is
something new for us, John

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little tasks, we've reversed the
roles for once.

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Yeah, I'm up late. It's like one
in the morning as we're doing

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this. And you're just, I guess
you just got up recently. Yeah,

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I've been up for a couple hours,
but it's about 10 past nine in

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the morning. And it just worked
out this way. I think we might

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as well tell. Tell the audience
right off the bat that we're

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doing this on? What is it today?
Say Thursday? Yeah, Thursday. So

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we'll probably won't get this
out until Friday. So it's one

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day earlier. But if you're
wondering why some of the topics

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may be about older news, 24
hours old. That's the reason

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we don't really talk about the
news as much as we do about

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trends. Well, that's

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true. Okay, then let me start
right off the bat with a trend,

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which is huge protests in Europe
over the price of gasoline, and

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in particular Diesel. Have you
followed this at all? Heard

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about,

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but the diesel thing has
fascinated me because even at

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the even here, for It started
about a year ago, I noticed

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this. And I used to work as a
petroleum chemist. So you have

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to, you know,

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you have to understand these
things. Well, I

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mean, I kind of get part of it.
But this, there's a baffling

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aspect to it. Because this is
not a normal situation. But

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about a year ago, the price of
diesel started sneaking up and

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it became the same price as
premium right, gasoline, I

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will I've made a study and I
know why at least in Europe, I

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know why it's happening. All
right, go. So first of all, you

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have a regular increase just in
the in the raw materials. So the

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price of a barrel of oil is
going up. But what all these

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governments have done, and there
was a big protest in the UK two

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days ago, the French fishermen
are protesting they're cutting

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off the Atlantic or whatever the
hell is that all these

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governments have put extra tax
co2 emission tax on diesel and

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and it's an extra tax because of
course, I don't think this is

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true. Because they say well,
diesel engines, you know, they

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spew out much more co2, which of
course is related directly back

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to this global warming meme that
is out there. And I think that I

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don't know if that's the same in
the States but in Europe, that's

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exactly what's happened and
that's why that price has been

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driven up so far.

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I don't know of any increased
tax on diesel fuel in the US the

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prices snuck up to the price of
premium and then it started

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creeping above it and now it's
like 10 or 20 cents higher than

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premium gasoline and it makes
absolutely no sense whatsoever

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and and so far as the carbon
footprint of diesel which have

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been horses was

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probably not true. I think

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a lot of particulate from diesel
fuel more than anything, but it

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tends to be I don't see that as
just producing more co2 to be I

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mean, just don't see it. I get
this i don't know i have to I'm

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gonna have to do a little
reading and see what the heck's

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going on because it doesn't make
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Well, what is happening is it's
making everyone's livelihood

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kind of hard because you know
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that in your in your basic you
know the basics of your business

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if you're if you're a trucker or
if you if you need diesel for

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any other reason then you know,
that's that's a real big problem

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that's straight to your bottom
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Well that's past often the
customers and so it's a really

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issue I think the only people
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starting to notice this now. And
this is kind of weird to there

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might be some connection I saw
an ad the other day yesterday as

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a matter of fact for for the
railroads they've been

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advertising on the radio for a
while but now I'm seeing TV ads

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bragging about how much you know
they can carry like tonnes of

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stuff for a nickel you know and
this like I'm seeing why is it

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I've never seen I have never
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of ads for railway
transportation for you know for

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products that just watching this
going huh

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yeah in fact if anything is only
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of people

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well yeah, here actually we
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there's some Amtrak occasional
Amtrak commercials but then no,

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this was transporting cars in
particular but you could tell it

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what they were getting that they
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it cost per mile to move a
tonne? And it's like a lot

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cheaper than it is with a truck.
So I don't know there's

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something screwy going on. I'm
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eventually.

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It's interesting that that that
price of diesel though as you

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say that you don't think it has
anything to do with with carbon

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emission taxes but you know,
Gordon Brown of course the prime

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minister in the UK is already
under severe pressure. People

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are calling for his head almost
literally And in thing was

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yesterday's Financial Times
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here is saying you know, we just
made back off of that to two

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pence raise in in gas taxes
that's coming up in July because

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the truckers literally blocked
off the West End I mean within

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set almost 100 miles outside of
London traffic was messed up

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they did a great job.

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Good for them. Yeah and final
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exactly. Finally finally and
everyone's behind them you know

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everyone's because everyone else
has these do their own issue

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with the price of gas. I'm just
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Well, you know that it just
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I think everyone's complaining
about but I think it's gotten to

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the end it is expensive it's
amazing. I feel sorry for the

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people who bought this diesel
cars you know, thinking that

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we're going to do exactly
exactly in fact it may be a ploy

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to eliminate the possibility of
diesel cars becoming successful

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you know we need John you know,
we need a rubber duck member

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this

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fan come on yeah, unfortunately
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On boy.

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So talking about you know, the
craziness over there. I'm

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looking at this entry on the
blog that we have here, which I

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put up every adult in Britain
should be forced to carry carbon

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ration cards. Say MPs. carvery
read this door No, no

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carbon rations. What's that?

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Yeah, this guy is perfect. This
one guy in particular one of

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your one of your crackpot MPs
Member of Parliament. I'm gonna

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tell you who it is we have his
picture up. I forgot to put his

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name I

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don't want to serve today
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I'm gonna tell you who it is. It
said Tim me II Oh, even though

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he sounds like a Chinese guys,
white MPs led by Tory Tim Yeo

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why

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conservatives. So he's, he's in
the opposition. Say this

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scheme should be more effective
at cutting greenhouse gas gas

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emissions, then green taxes.

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I'm tired of this man.
governments all over the world

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are using this co2 emissions
thing to tax the living

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daylights out of everything.

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It's just an excuse. They've
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they somebody came up with the
idea, hey, we can now tax

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people. And then of course, at
the end of this article is semi

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rigid how the scheme would work.
I'm going to list off that crap.

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Every adult in the UK would be
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allowance, kilogrammes and a
special carbon card. The scheme

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would cover road fuel flights
and energy bills. Every time

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someone paid for road fuel
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account would be docked. A litre
of petrol would use up to 2.3

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kilogrammes in carbon while
every 1.3 miles of airline

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flight would use another one
kilogramme. By the way, you'd be

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paying a lot for your legit
private plane hell. When paying

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for patches only three more of
these, when paying for petrol

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that card would need to be
swiped at the till it would be a

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legal offence to buy petrol
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either against the generator,
which is like rationing during

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World War Two. When paying
online or by direct debit, the

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carbon account would be debited
directly. And anyone who doesn't

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use up their credit, this is the
kicker here. Anyone who doesn't

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use up their credits in a year
can sell them to someone who

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wants more credits, trading
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companies.

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And you know what this is? I
think this is two things. First

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of all, no, it's three things.
First of all, it's fucking

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stupid. Excuse my language,
because it's just not enough

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proof or the

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Al Gore. Exactly. This is this
is all runs one of these

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companies that trades carbon
credits. It's a crock of Crap

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Scam, it's a scam. It's like
trying to create a new

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investment market or something.
So you can make money on trading

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carbon credits. And I think it's
also an underhand way of there's

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another big debate going on here
about the National ID Card,

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which, you know, no, I don't
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Labour has been trying to bring
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basically all of your
information is on a card. So it

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just starts with carbon
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can attach anything to that card
that you swipe through. And

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that's just a matter of adding
another database to it.

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To unbelievable. So anyway,
that's the kind of weird that me

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this thing is getting out of
control. I mean, it's not doing

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anything to stop anything. And
now you know, there's a who's

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going to set these limits. It's
just the whole thing is it's

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just become, I mean, they're
completely blowing any, you

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know, possibility that we could
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just being jerks.

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I can just see what's happening.
You go to a public restroom, you

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have to swipe your card, because
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doing a number two, well, you
know that's gonna that's going

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to be a couple of carbon credits
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co2 in a big way. I

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think every cow is going to have
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Oh man Oh, well, that's a that's
a trend. I'm not liking

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somebody. I'm looking at the
blog and somebody named grim Bo

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has a comment. Got a bunch of
comments on this posting. He's

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he says he's obviously in the UK
or Europe. He says, Isn't there

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anything happening in the USA
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I'm, you know, we haven't gotten
to this corny thing yet. I'm

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just trying to stave it off.
Yeah, really?

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Here's a book I want to read
many. I'm sure you've heard

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about Scott McClellan's book.

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Yeah, there's a lot of
controversy. Yeah. All the fact

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all the right wing talk show
guys are all worked up about

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this. Oh, tell me

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about let's just explain to the
listeners. Maybe not everyone

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knows Scott McClellan was the
the White House Press Secretary,

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Yeah, but the first one and he
was the most nervous looking one

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up there. And he was always
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sweaty, sweaty lip guy. That's

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what I always call it. Uh, yeah.
And so he comes out with this

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tell all I mean, what is he?
What is he? What's the there's

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something fishy about this.

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He's making money. First of all,
he made money telling the lies.

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Now he's making money telling
the truth. I guess I don't know

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what I want other way to look
and explain to people what the

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books about. So the book is
about his his tenure as press

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secretary between 2003 2006. And
in particular, he talks about,

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I'd haven't read the book,
obviously, about how Condoleezza

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Rice is kind of like the Teflon,
Dame like she everything just

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glides right off of her, she
deflects things to other people.

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That, you know, the importance
of rove how Dick Cheney is

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pulling on the strings behind
the screens. And then in

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particular, how the Bush
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American public to get into
Iraq. Paraphrasing, of course,

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haven't read the book, but I
think that's kind of what it is.

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Yeah, that's what everybody says
it is. And everybody's upset

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about the fact that this guy,
not because he's telling the

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truth, but it's like, Where were
you, you know, when you needed

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to be telling the truth? I mean,
why would you be such a stooge

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that you would, you know, go
along with the programme for

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such a long time? And then
because you need some money

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doing a book, now you're doing
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Well, I would say there's one
other reason to do this. I'd say

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the other reason is protection.
You know, to protect himself to

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go public with it.

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protect himself from what from

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getting killed? by who? By evil
by evil forces, you know? Yeah.

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I mean, no one wants this
information out there. And if

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everyone knows that, that he's
kind of on the fence or

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whatever, you know, it could be
one of these. Oops, he committed

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suicide type things.

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You know, brother? Well, I think
that's a bit much.

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I don't know, man. I mean, look,
you know, what's the difference

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between often one guy who might
want to tell the truth about the

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lies about getting us into Iraq
and actually lying and getting

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us into Iraq? You know, which
one is worse?

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I don't know. All I know is I
don't know anyone who's been

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killed yet.

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Well, there was one member and
this kind of died in the in the

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press. Remember the guy if this
was in the UK? wasn't in the UK?

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The science, I think was the UK,
the scientist who actually

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wasn't great

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at that scientists who had some
something to say about the fact

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that the report was a crock of
crap. Right, right. And he ended

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up dead in a field or something
while hiking or some crazy. One

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of those I don't think that just
died. I mean, they harped on

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that thing as some sort of a
screwy situation for months on

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end. And they and then it just
died. And then it just went

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away. Yeah, because people get
sick and listen to this stuff. I

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mean, there's a bunch of
connections, Jimmy, like

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coincidental connections between
Clinton and a bunch of damage.

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There was a whole website
devoted to crazy people that had

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died because a foster that had
died, you know, during the

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Clinton administration with
implications that he was had

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somebody killing them.

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Right. Whitewater stuff, wasn't
it? Yeah, a lot of that. But,

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you know, I believe that
happens. I believe in that kind

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of cloak and dagger stuff. I
think that absolutely happens.

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I think it's funny that you
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it does happen or doesn't
happen. But because of the fact

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that when I mentioned that I
thought it was a scam that Marie

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Osmond fell to the deck on
national TV as a publicity

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stunt. You are completely no,
that couldn't possibly be the

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case. May

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I point out that I changed my
position on that later after I

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thought about it.

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Yeah, no, I Yeah, you did. I'm
just saying no, you're you're

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normal. You're normally kind of
conservative with these kinds of

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thoughts. And I've never heard
you come off the wall with some

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of these. You

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wrote the book that protect
himself from being killed. Well,

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there's quite a jump John
between way by the way.

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It was a mob deal. You write
that book, then you will be

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killed.

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Well, at least he got it open.
Yeah. Marie Osmond. I saw her

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faint, and I thought it looked
pretty realistic, but I

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ritualised separately

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except for the back of the hand.
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and and the twisting fall.

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They were goon

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they were on Jonathan Ross,
which is our big weekly, Friday

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night talk show here in the UK.
They're, like, seven of the

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Azzaman. So it was and there's
there's like two there's a

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million Osmonds, of course, but
you have Donnie Jimmy and Marie.

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And then you have the three
older guys and those brothers

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are like in their, like mid 60s.
And they're on tour now and and

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they're selling out everywhere.

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Oh god, yeah. In England are
touring England.

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They they're doing it started in
they did one small gig and now

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they're doing the oh two arena
and now they're set up a world

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tour. It's pandemonium is
selling out the old to arena for

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Crazy Horses. But think about
it. You have Donnie dad a lot of

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hits John, you can laugh about
him. But Donnie and Marie had

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massive hits. And of course,
there's the one name one. Oh,

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okay, Donny Osmond, puppy love.
Put your head on my shoulder,

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which of course Paul Anka
classic Donny and Marie had

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several I can't, I can't name
those off off the top of my

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head. But then you've got one
probably love. The big one here

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in the UK, which was never hit
in the States, I don't think was

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Jimmy Osmond. Who had this song
called I'll be your long haired

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liver lover from Liverpool now
and it was a number one in all

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over Europe, particularly in the
UK for months on end. And, you

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know, so all these and he was 13
at the time, so his audience is

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now my age. And this nostalgia.
You know, these chicks love it.

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Brother. I'm telling. I'll be
your long haired lover from

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Liverpool.

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You know, I don't mind. You
know, I think there is something

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cool about seeing an old act. I
mean, I went to see when they

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had the Venetian room here in
San Francisco. Until recently. I

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would myself, my wife, and
sometimes one of our kids would

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go to see these classic acts
because it was a small venue. It

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was a little expensive, but it
was worth going to. So I got to

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see Lou Raul was in a small
venue. I got to see James Brown

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in a small venue. And actually,
we went up to see Cab Calloway.

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In the same room with his band,
it was actually is he still

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alive? He's dead now. But he was
alive then. In fact, we actually

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had drinks with him afterwards.
Curiously enough, he gave me his

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tips on horse race betting. And
also cooking corn as a barbecue

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anyway.

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Here it is Cab Calloway Cobb
recipe.

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No, there you have it. Okay. So
but anyway, the point is, I

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don't mind that kind of a
situation. I mean, it seems like

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a logical thing to do, if you
want to see.

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Oh, hold on a second. John. I
think I just lost you. There.

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You there.

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Now? Am I there?

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Yet? You're back. Okay. You
know, there's been some problems

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with this. I just want to say
there's been some problems with

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Skype over the past couple of
days. I noticed. And I don't

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think it's just my bandwidth. I
think it's, there's some kind of

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problem going on, particularly
if you talk really loudly and

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not you because you've got a
compressor and limiter setup.

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But it just seems to drop out.
I've been seeing this a lot.

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I haven't noticed it over here,
but I don't use it that much. I

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mean, this is that it makes
sense to me that you would go

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see some of these acts if you
have an opportunity, especially

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if you get the same close up.
But to go to a big, giant venue

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to listen to the Osmonds, you
know, do nostalgia doing your

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dinosaur act from 25 years ago
doesn't make any sense it all to

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me.

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It's actually 30 years ago,
maybe even 35. But I will say

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the culture in the United
Kingdom of big concerts and

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festivals is is huge. So it's
you know, and it's a it's almost

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like a football match. And they
all go there and they all sing

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the songs together and they
drink beer, which of course is

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worse. No, please. No, no,
you're just being cranky.

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No, I'm just saying it said I
don't want to go out with a

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bunch of old drunks. Listen is

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40 years old is not give me a
break. 40 is not old.

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Man. So the drunks in the
audience probably are that's

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unbelievable. Yeah, I don't
know. It just doesn't sound

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right. That

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makes people happy then it's
right John, come on. We need

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some happiness. God what did you
love her from Liverpool? Yes

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once in a while. Look, I can
bitch about carbon credits, but

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I do love Jimmy Osman. I'm
sorry.

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So what else weird is going on
over there? We have Sharon Stone

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over here telling the Chinese
that there's bad karma. That's

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the reason they had their
earthquake which cracks me up.

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Oh

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really? What an idiot. She's a
total idiot had karma? Is that

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what you say? What did she say?
She made a big

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stink about it. She says she was
at some event where she was

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actually talking to a Chinese
delegation in public He made a

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big stink about his bad karma
when you do bad things, bad

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things happen to you like she's
some sort of a like a 12 year

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old.

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Speaking of drunks. Really,
that's, that's, that's pretty

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messed up. I'm trying to think,
well, there is there is a Euro

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there's a European Parliament
thing that they're getting into

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now is there's discussions about
banning import into Europe of

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products that are a derivative
of child labour. And so there's

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several countries that are
saying, you know, yeah, we think

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we should warn him that we don't
actually think we should stop

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the import of these products. So
there's, there's something weird

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going on there, which I'm sure
is China related, probably India

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related. Who knows maybe the old
BRIC countries that's going on

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in the European Well, there

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was a there was a new United
started watching news night,

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which I recommend to Americans,
if they get BBC America, it

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comes on Friday nights. And it's
I think they repeated on a great

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show, great show prize from BBC
Two. And so I quoted something

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from it on a blog and somebody,
I don't know, I guess we were

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talking about something on no
agenda, and somebody sent me an

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email saying, hey, you know, you
shouldn't note that this is the

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most reputable show on the
produce air. And so I started

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watching it, it's actually quite
good. It's like, it's like, it's

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actually like a jazzed up or
dramatised 60 minutes it's

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actually better in many ways,
but they had a thing on it was

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either last week or the week
before that was me they took

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these they took these people and
these these women and that were

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fashion East fashion oriented
British girls that didn't think

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much about wearing something
once and thrown it away and took

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them to China.

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Oh and show them how the ship
was made.

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Well they made him work there oh
yeah, it was part of the job is

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like they had to do this some of
these things had to do some

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sewing they had to do some this
and that and the other thing and

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all of them came back they were
so I mean amazingly

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disillusioned with the whole
situation that it was actually

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quite entertaining to watch

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well that's a that's a good
thing and quite topical because

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at this very moment you know
what the number one movie is

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going to be this weekend if it
isn't already in the states it's

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going to be a Sex in the City
which of course is filled with

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nothing but brand name
overpriced shoes, handbags and

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clothing

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I hope it's not number one

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Oh, it's it's gonna be box
office Bonanza this is this is

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the equivalent of for guys. You
know that like Debbie does

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Dallas in the 2008 version would
be released in theatres. You

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know that we love porn. Most
guys love porn. This is female

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porn. That's plain and simple.
Have you I don't know about your

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wife. My wife has certainly she
likes the porn but she can't

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stand paying the prices for it
but in general I think I see

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women who are who absolutely
worship Blahnik whatever the

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What the hell is name those
shoes? Milan no Mahalo. The

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worship these shoes is like $400
shoes. Which two slabs of

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leather with a stick.

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It's crazy. You know? Luckily,
my wife's not a shoe nut.

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Yeah, how about handbags? That's
another one that's just crazy.

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Handbags. Well, there's actually
good websites dedicated to the

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handbags. Yeah, you know, your
Sex in the City will have tonnes

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of that stuff. But the thing is,
it's like a such a chick flick

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from the get go. That it's
almost like a parody of itself.

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Right from the beginning. I
don't even know if I'd watch it.

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I'm definitely not going to go
see it. But I don't know if I'd

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even bother watching it on on a
DVD. Because, you know, I

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watched the series on and off.
And it was kind of interesting,

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because it was structured
similarly to the Seinfeld show

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where they had gotten themselves
into these kinds of situations.

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Yeah, situations that were kind
of amusing at you know, and it

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was well written and it was you
know, it but it was again, you

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know, I think the parody of it
done on The Simpsons. Were one

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of the people in the Simpsons
that Oh, you mean, that show

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where those those four women sit
are sitting around the table

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acting like gay men.

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It's written by it's written by
gay men the show I don't know

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what the mood but the show was
written by I think the writers

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are gay men.

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Okay, well, that made that makes
sense. Makes sense, doesn't it?

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Yeah. But what's you know, my

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my daughter wanted to go last
night so that was a Wednesday

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00:24:31,710 --> 00:24:35,340
night it was sold out. I do have
a theory though. Why there's

445
00:24:35,370 --> 00:24:39,180
there's very little criticism of
this. And it's kind of the Obama

446
00:24:39,180 --> 00:24:43,020
theory. I think that because
Carrie, whatever her name is,

447
00:24:43,050 --> 00:24:45,600
Carrie so their characters
Carrie. So just Sarah Jessica

448
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,140
Parker, I believe because she is
living the dream of many

449
00:24:49,140 --> 00:24:52,230
journalists you know, living
your life writing about it for

450
00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:55,260
for a newspaper like the New
York Times, you know, be kind of

451
00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:58,410
a celebrated journalist. I have
a feeling that for some reason

452
00:24:58,410 --> 00:24:58,950
longer

453
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,480
Longer

454
00:25:02,220 --> 00:25:05,220
yeah so maybe that's why there's
no criticism I think people envy

455
00:25:05,220 --> 00:25:08,460
that type of lifestyle I don't
know there's something it's you

456
00:25:08,460 --> 00:25:11,130
know what commercially speaking
great frickin idea

457
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,260
congratulations power to you
guys

458
00:25:13,650 --> 00:25:20,130
whatever I actually doubt that I
was even bother to watch it I

459
00:25:20,130 --> 00:25:23,940
mean it's just got its I would I
just needed to know what the

460
00:25:23,940 --> 00:25:28,230
ending is and I've done well
look I think most of Mr Big get

461
00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:33,030
killed or cares all I know I
would like to know because it's

462
00:25:33,030 --> 00:25:36,030
good wraps it up tonight I guess
I can have I don't have to deal

463
00:25:36,030 --> 00:25:37,440
with it. Okay, so we'll

464
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,710
get a spoiler out there but for
the for the men listening to the

465
00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:44,370
show without a doubt is a
guaranteed you'll get laid chick

466
00:25:44,370 --> 00:25:44,820
flick.

467
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,010
I'm not sure of that.

468
00:25:48,060 --> 00:25:49,320
Well, let's do a poll.

469
00:25:51,630 --> 00:25:55,320
Okay, well, we will Yeah, well,
I just not sure that it's a get

470
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,240
laid chick flick flick. I think
it's just you.

471
00:25:57,420 --> 00:26:00,600
You take your girlfriend to this
movie, you're getting laid.

472
00:26:02,850 --> 00:26:06,780
All right. Let's do a test.
Anybody out there listen to this

473
00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:11,190
show. Email Adam. results of the
test?

474
00:26:11,340 --> 00:26:16,530
Yes. I'll put up on one of
those. Google Docs spreadsheets.

475
00:26:16,919 --> 00:26:17,879
No cheating.

476
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:20,190
We're gonna come and check on
you.

477
00:26:20,610 --> 00:26:23,100
No cheating, none of this, you
know, get her drunk and then get

478
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:26,640
lay I you know, no, it has to be
you go to the movie. And then

479
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,890
the next thing you know, you're
just having more sex than you

480
00:26:28,890 --> 00:26:31,500
could imagine. Okay, and I think
it only counts if it's like

481
00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:33,870
somebody who hasn't had sex with
the person before.

482
00:26:34,770 --> 00:26:37,920
Oh, okay. Well, now you're
putting all kinds of parameters

483
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,610
and I think it's much

484
00:26:38,910 --> 00:26:41,280
okay, let's do it. Let's make it
any sort of sex but I want to

485
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,080
hear the details. Okay. In other
words, is it your wife? You

486
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,990
know, or is it some someone
else's wife? Somebody else's

487
00:26:48,990 --> 00:26:52,080
wife is somebody that you have
sex with every night anyway.

488
00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:56,070
I know. Now you're putting too
many parameters in for the night

489
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:58,320
I just want to know that you
know, you just said yes and no

490
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,220
things not gonna work for me. I
just don't think it's effective.

491
00:27:03,030 --> 00:27:09,180
I think that whole thing's a
myth change them in the olden

492
00:27:09,180 --> 00:27:13,560
days when I was a kid used to go
to the drive in theatre and you

493
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,380
get watched these ended the
movies that was supposedly you

494
00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:20,070
get some action is a little real
scary films. Not somebody that

495
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:24,510
break not a movie that brings
the male to tears. Because it's

496
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:27,330
gotten you know, tear jerker
elements that are designed to

497
00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:36,270
make anyone who watches it cry,
which is like this pathetic. You

498
00:27:36,270 --> 00:27:38,100
know, I mean, come on. Well,
look

499
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:40,740
how many people got laid after
watching Schindler's List. Okay.

500
00:27:40,770 --> 00:27:43,020
You know, it's like, I think you
got more chance with Sex in the

501
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:46,110
City. That's what I'm just
saying. Well, yeah, well, maybe

502
00:27:46,140 --> 00:27:49,590
I just, here's one for your
John. Someone sent me You know,

503
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:52,020
I've been using this drop.io I
know I showed it to you. Have

504
00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:53,280
you actually started using that?

505
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,430
No, I've looked. I've been
watching it though. Okay, so

506
00:27:56,460 --> 00:27:57,360
there's still

507
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,210
an alpha these guys gave me like
because I was out of my one gig

508
00:28:00,210 --> 00:28:03,060
or whatever, within a week and
they gave me 20 gigs. And so if

509
00:28:03,060 --> 00:28:07,680
people just been stacking stuff
up, but there's this a link to a

510
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:14,760
YouTube clip. It's Mary cap
tour. She's representative

511
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,850
Democratic Representative from
Ohio. It's about seven minutes.

512
00:28:18,150 --> 00:28:21,810
And in it she she even holds up
charge. She's talking about this

513
00:28:21,810 --> 00:28:25,380
super NAFTA thing which has been
kind of rumoured about for a

514
00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:29,970
while, where apparently the Bush
administration is quiet about

515
00:28:29,970 --> 00:28:32,640
the the highway Yeah, the
highway. Yeah, she showed the

516
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,880
highway we blogged about that
highway over a year ago. That's

517
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,720
NASSCO. You have to look it up
as it's like NASSCO highway or

518
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,780
NASSCO, something that you know
to find the information if you

519
00:28:42,780 --> 00:28:45,300
look it up on the blog if you
type in NASSCO, I think you'd

520
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,550
find it there. But we haven't
the maps and all the rest of it

521
00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:50,910
is not even a secret. But the
thing that's really cool is this

522
00:28:50,940 --> 00:28:54,570
is this this video that's
floating around YouTube where

523
00:28:54,570 --> 00:28:59,250
the Manitoba guy who runs
Manitoba and what they what is

524
00:28:59,250 --> 00:29:02,100
the governor I'm not sure. But
anyway, he was talking about it

525
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:05,580
in great detail. And then
meanwhile, they're excoriating

526
00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:10,500
Lou Dobbs because he calls it
the NAFTA IWAY when it's really

527
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,680
I think he's just referring to
in a generic sense instead of

528
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,030
NASSCO. The North American super
corridor, whatever it is

529
00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:23,820
organisation and it's this is
not a secret by any means. But

530
00:29:23,820 --> 00:29:27,540
the fact that they're trying to
pretend that it is is ridiculous

531
00:29:27,540 --> 00:29:31,170
and we've been documenting this
thing for you know, over a year

532
00:29:31,170 --> 00:29:33,960
I'm sure of it has been affected
whole projects been going on for

533
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,040
15 years

534
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:38,040
or so the recent developments
and this is what it kind of came

535
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,300
down to is that so Ford is
opening up a huge plant in

536
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:47,130
Mexico. So you know a lot of
jobs are going to be going to

537
00:29:47,130 --> 00:29:51,690
Mexico and then there's these
Mexican can numbers and Mexican

538
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:56,490
billionaire who owns the like
the Chicago Skyway, which is a

539
00:29:56,490 --> 00:30:00,780
part of this of this
superhighway project Uh, the

540
00:30:00,810 --> 00:30:01,440
there's another

541
00:30:03,419 --> 00:30:05,939
guy looking at the map, I don't
see it going through Chicago.

542
00:30:05,939 --> 00:30:06,569
But anyway, go ahead.

543
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,060
Well, it was it was one branch
if you have to see the video and

544
00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:12,420
you know, I'm sure Baba Baba,
we'll put, we'll put a link to

545
00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:15,030
it in the show links. Okay.
Yeah. But it was just

546
00:30:15,030 --> 00:30:17,100
interesting, because the way she
brought it, it was like, you

547
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,740
know, she had some really good
points, I thought, I mean, I

548
00:30:19,740 --> 00:30:21,960
agree with you. It's not a
secret, but it kind of hasn't

549
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,510
really been admitted to or not
talked

550
00:30:24,510 --> 00:30:27,750
about, and they kind of pretend
it's no big deal when it is a

551
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:31,230
big deal. Because essentially,
the Manitoba guy had to put a

552
00:30:31,230 --> 00:30:35,400
link to this thing. I'm doing a
piece on how they're trying to,

553
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,880
they haven't really had to take
me a while to because it's

554
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,980
actually you may not elaborate
piece on how I think the powers

555
00:30:43,980 --> 00:30:48,660
that be are trying to ruin Lou
Dobbs because he has, he's just

556
00:30:48,660 --> 00:30:55,290
not toeing the line. And. And
anyway, so there's the Manitoba

557
00:30:55,290 --> 00:31:00,780
guy goes on about how what
they're setting up is a port, a

558
00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:05,370
sea port, essentially, in
Manitoba, that has pre

559
00:31:05,370 --> 00:31:09,600
clearances for the actual
docking of the ships, which will

560
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,980
be in Mexico. And then it gets
to get cleared down there. And

561
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:15,900
then they're pre cleared, and
then they go off to super

562
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:18,900
corridor, and then they get
dropped off in Canada, as though

563
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:22,290
they were coming in off of the
ship. Ah, okay, I got it. And

564
00:31:22,290 --> 00:31:25,170
and if you start really looking
into it, this has a lot to do

565
00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:32,370
with the fact that the Seattle,
Oakland and Long Beach harbours

566
00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:36,660
that taken most of the stuff
from China, are going to either

567
00:31:36,690 --> 00:31:39,660
start charging too much, or they
can get a better deal by

568
00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:42,900
dropping the stuff off down in
Mexico on the super tankers, and

569
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:45,390
a lot of them can't take some of
these bigger boats. I mean,

570
00:31:45,390 --> 00:31:48,090
there's some huge ships being
manufactured now that are so

571
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,100
monstrous is unbelievable. And
so they're so this is part of

572
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:57,150
that too, because you can save
money if you go to Mexico, to

573
00:31:57,150 --> 00:31:58,590
that one of their ports.

574
00:31:58,949 --> 00:32:03,629
So let me ask you a question.
Outside of perhaps, you know,

575
00:32:03,629 --> 00:32:07,619
40 50,000 jobs being eliminated
in the US and, and moving down

576
00:32:07,619 --> 00:32:09,809
to Mexico? Is there anything bad
about this idea?

577
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,620
Well, there's there. Yeah,
there's a couple Well, depending

578
00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:19,440
on what you what you think is
bad, or what do you think is one

579
00:32:20,130 --> 00:32:22,890
you know, bypassing? I mean,
this for one thing, it's kind of

580
00:32:22,890 --> 00:32:28,230
weird that the EU have to drop
stuff off in Mexico to get it to

581
00:32:28,620 --> 00:32:32,850
Canada when they have ports up
in Vancouver, which they could

582
00:32:32,850 --> 00:32:35,790
take the stuff but apparently,
you know, there's taxes or who

583
00:32:35,790 --> 00:32:36,000
knows?

584
00:32:36,570 --> 00:32:40,410
Maybe he's quicker routes. That
could be a number of reasons,

585
00:32:40,410 --> 00:32:43,530
but I still don't see why that's
necessarily bad. If we're a part

586
00:32:43,530 --> 00:32:45,060
of it, and we're making money
from it.

587
00:32:45,150 --> 00:32:47,340
I don't know that we're making
any money from it, except for

588
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:49,800
the taxes on this big worry
highway that's going to be going

589
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,040
up and down is also going to,
you know, you it's just I mean,

590
00:32:53,070 --> 00:32:56,580
it's just they have this, this,
it's almost like having an

591
00:32:56,610 --> 00:33:00,540
easement is the way I see it.
And I don't like you know, if

592
00:33:00,540 --> 00:33:03,810
you have some property, and for
some reason or another, somebody

593
00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:07,080
wants to get this other property
behind your property, they

594
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,490
decided they want to run a two
lane road right through your

595
00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:15,150
property to get there an
easement as it would be called

596
00:33:15,150 --> 00:33:18,480
here. It's annoying. I mean,
it's like, you know, now all of

597
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,540
a sudden, your property is cut
in half. Right. So when why are

598
00:33:21,540 --> 00:33:23,970
we volunteering for this? It did
the whole and why, you know, why

599
00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:26,760
don't we? I don't know. There's
a lot of issues. I think it

600
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,130
needs to be discussed more, but
it's not being discussed at all.

601
00:33:29,130 --> 00:33:31,830
So we don't have any good
arguments one way or the other.

602
00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:34,260
When you know that we're having
a bunch of Mexican trucks going

603
00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:37,770
up and down this road bringing
in the illegals could be a drug

604
00:33:37,770 --> 00:33:42,480
trafficking the problem. Does a
job loss thing and a white you

605
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,910
know, the Canadians used to have
car plants up there. Why are we

606
00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:47,790
making cars in Mexico to
shipping to Canada? I mean, just

607
00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:51,900
go Okay, great. I guess it makes
them cheaper. There's a lot of

608
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:56,370
job loss issues. I don't know.
It's really all about China's

609
00:33:56,370 --> 00:33:58,920
really not that much to do with
Mexico and the billionaires down

610
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,980
there. It's about China finding
a cheaper way to bring their

611
00:34:02,010 --> 00:34:03,570
cheap stuff over even cheaper.

612
00:34:04,350 --> 00:34:08,130
Through the mean through Mexico.
Yeah, for Canada,

613
00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:11,100
that is not for us. I mean, we
there's no benefit to us that I

614
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:14,070
can see. We just lose a bunch of
business in our some of our

615
00:34:14,070 --> 00:34:18,270
ports. And the we're just
routing everything in a awkward

616
00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:21,570
way to Canada, which somehow is
cheaper according to the way to

617
00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:25,440
do the numbers. I don't know.
It's weird. But the thing that's

618
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,200
weirder about is the fact that
there's so much kind of do all

619
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,510
we want to talk about it. Let's
cover our ears. Bah bah, bah,

620
00:34:30,510 --> 00:34:33,030
bah, I can't hear you I can't
hear you you know kind of thing

621
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:36,360
and it's like you know, somebody
like Lou Dobbs brings it up and

622
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120
they you know, calls it the
NAFTA highway or whatever he

623
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,760
calls it and then they just jump
all over him and people with

624
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,450
it's interesting to read the
criticism it's there is no such

625
00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:48,600
thing as a NAFTA superhighway
there is no NAFTA corridor

626
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,900
there. He's full of crap. He's a
liar who's saying going on and

627
00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:54,480
honest like he's like He used a
different term than the real

628
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,120
term NASSCO and as CEO,

629
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,620
so that's why they're debunking
it or Yeah, using as a debunk is

630
00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:02,520
saying there's nothing

631
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:04,440
right. They're saying he's full
of crap. He doesn't know what

632
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,160
he's talking about. He's a liar.
And it's like really weird. And

633
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,650
then in the skin, it's all these
and the weird thing is, is

634
00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:15,600
mostly left wing media, people
that are doing this not even the

635
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,840
Republicans. I mean, it's that's
the strangest thing about this,

636
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,590
like you'd expect exactly the
opposite. Yeah, I know. It's

637
00:35:22,590 --> 00:35:25,110
like media matters. And people
like that, who are all really

638
00:35:25,110 --> 00:35:29,040
pretty much left of centre by a
lot, that are all over this

639
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,550
thing. And it's just like, Okay,
I don't know, there's something

640
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:35,520
screwy going on is all I know,
it's like somebody sent out the

641
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,970
word. And then you have like hit
pieces that have come out in

642
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:43,830
both the Washington Post. And
there's this writer, Joe Klein,

643
00:35:43,830 --> 00:35:46,500
who's come out with some
negative piece, it's almost

644
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:51,120
looks like it was planted. And,
you know, just a hit, you know,

645
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,110
hit dogs with this kind of
information with this criticism,

646
00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:58,920
and linking to all the other
people that were criticising it.

647
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,430
And a lot of it started with an
article in salon magazine, the

648
00:36:02,430 --> 00:36:07,920
online salon, and, and they had
a kind of a kind of an academic

649
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,340
nasty piece. It's really it's
just like, it all happened at

650
00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:13,500
once as though somebody said,
Okay, let's get him.

651
00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:17,070
Which is probably exactly what
happened. Yeah, no, that's

652
00:36:17,070 --> 00:36:20,070
what I'm thinking. I have a
thing that I like to do. And I

653
00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:23,400
think people should all do this,
you have to assume and the funny

654
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,590
thing was, I mentioned this to
you before, and I think I talked

655
00:36:25,590 --> 00:36:29,280
about on the show, but a friend
of mine, we will keep her name

656
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,310
out of it for the moment,
mentioned to me that she was,

657
00:36:32,430 --> 00:36:35,730
you know, offered a job with one
of the major intelligence

658
00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:38,430
agencies when she got out of
college, and her job was to be

659
00:36:38,850 --> 00:36:44,190
to work at a newspaper, and
they'd get her a good position.

660
00:36:44,190 --> 00:36:47,610
And she'd moved up the ladder
over the years. And every so

661
00:36:47,610 --> 00:36:51,330
often, she would be asked to
drop in at least some

662
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:57,090
disinformation or a phoney story
or some something. Not often,

663
00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:57,900
but once in a while.

664
00:36:57,930 --> 00:37:00,690
Well, that's what the CIA does
they have that's, that's one of

665
00:37:00,690 --> 00:37:04,440
the main things their agents do
is and I am reasonably reliably

666
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,780
informed is that, you know, they
put people in, they give them a

667
00:37:06,780 --> 00:37:10,590
front. So you get like, maybe it
could even be a PR agency as an

668
00:37:10,590 --> 00:37:13,380
example in your inner country
and you're working as PR or you

669
00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:16,020
may be a journalist, and you're
essentially you're on the

670
00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:18,150
payroll and you're meant to
influence the press.

671
00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:21,390
Right? Well, it's usually you
don't think the press itself is

672
00:37:21,390 --> 00:37:25,650
part of this, by the way. And I
think this lesson, my wife, I

673
00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:28,560
said, we should start like some
sort of a this will really get

674
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,890
everybody worked up, by the way,
start some sort of a movement,

675
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,360
where members of the press need
to take a lie detector test, to

676
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,940
assure the public that they're
not working for an intelligence

677
00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:39,570
agency.

678
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,720
And we could do that with Jerry
Springer with that new show of

679
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:46,590
his to tell the truth. That's a
perfect combination. We put them

680
00:37:46,590 --> 00:37:49,620
on that. Okay, do your work for
an intelligence agency, while

681
00:37:49,620 --> 00:37:51,810
the detector test it would be
funny.

682
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,500
Anyway, so even

683
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,620
even just to say to a
journalist, will you submit to a

684
00:37:58,620 --> 00:38:01,410
lie detector test could be quite
telling what the answer is,

685
00:38:01,859 --> 00:38:04,679
oh, they go crazy. But anyway,
the point is, is that one of the

686
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:08,009
things I like to do is to try to
figure out and I have my little

687
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:13,559
lists of guys that I, I suspect
are working for an intelligence

688
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:16,259
agency, but based on the kind of
articles they write and what

689
00:38:16,259 --> 00:38:18,929
they put out. But one of the
things you can do is you can

690
00:38:18,929 --> 00:38:23,099
reverse engineer a lot of this
and one, one specific way is

691
00:38:23,099 --> 00:38:27,089
that that book, Confessions of
an economic hitman, which I

692
00:38:27,089 --> 00:38:30,239
don't think went over well,
with, you know, anybody that was

693
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,039
involved in Daesil loves it,

694
00:38:32,070 --> 00:38:33,150
I love the book.

695
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,090
Well, what you want to do is you
want to look at everyone, you

696
00:38:36,090 --> 00:38:38,460
want to look at all the reviews
of the book and find the people

697
00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:41,070
who criticise Right, yeah, good
point. And then you find out

698
00:38:41,070 --> 00:38:45,090
what they said in in their
critique. And then now that

699
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,170
gives you a, you know, kind of a
top list that you can now check

700
00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:51,510
these people on, what you do is
you look at each one of their

701
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:54,870
records in terms of what else
have they written about. And you

702
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:58,140
can quickly see which of the
group and it's not all of them,

703
00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:01,350
but it's a good number of them,
are obviously working for an

704
00:39:01,350 --> 00:39:04,800
intelligence agency, because
they putting out this kind of

705
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,340
weird propaganda every so often.
And it's and they do it

706
00:39:08,340 --> 00:39:11,250
consistently. And they're there,
there are people that you should

707
00:39:11,250 --> 00:39:15,270
know who they are, and you have
to make your own lists. And you

708
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:19,380
should take what they say with a
grain of salt, or you could even

709
00:39:19,380 --> 00:39:23,130
go further and you should read
what they write to see what the

710
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,450
you know, official line is,
because you can kind of you can

711
00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:30,660
kind of determine it, you can
kind of reverse engineer it by

712
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:33,570
just reading them. So you've
done this work and you have to

713
00:39:33,570 --> 00:39:35,760
do it all the time. I mean, I do
that constantly. And when I,

714
00:39:36,030 --> 00:39:40,260
when I'm suspicious of somebody
else, I'll do this, because I

715
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:46,200
have to as a writer myself, I
have to I don't mind, you know,

716
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:49,800
putting out the party line when
I'm in agreement with it or when

717
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,400
I think it's a good thing
without being told, which is

718
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,800
typically what everybody does.
If you're working for a magazine

719
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,040
and you're a writer for like
time life you don't go writing

720
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,660
negative piece is about your own
company, for example. So that's

721
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,690
pretty typical. And that's why
you don't see you know, you

722
00:40:06,690 --> 00:40:10,320
know, pieces on on television,
like on one of the networks,

723
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,760
like on ABC, for example, that
go into Disney hiring practices.

724
00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:17,940
That's just never gonna you're
not gonna see it on that

725
00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:19,860
network. And you won't see it on
the other networks, either.

726
00:40:19,860 --> 00:40:23,250
Because these are all run by
giant corporations. And if

727
00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:26,880
you're at NBC, which is owned by
General Electric, and you do a

728
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,970
hit piece on Disney hiring
practices, they're going to do a

729
00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:33,210
hit piece on you. And so this,
but it's a gentleman's

730
00:40:33,210 --> 00:40:36,150
agreement, nobody does it. So
the corporations have taken over

731
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:38,130
the media and no up here
nothing.

732
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,150
So I had to I had this in a
smaller version at MTV, it's

733
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:47,040
like you could not say anything
critical, bad or even make an

734
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,900
off colour joke about any artist
whatsoever. The only people

735
00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:52,950
that's what's interesting

736
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:56,790
about that's what's interesting
about the Lou Dobbs thing. It's

737
00:40:56,790 --> 00:41:01,770
actually his own company. Yeah,
coming after him. Yeah, yeah.

738
00:41:01,770 --> 00:41:05,580
And when you see that, then you
get really suspicious. Yeah. And

739
00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:09,690
that would be G. No, no, that's
CNN time, life. Oh, time Time

740
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:12,780
Warner. Time Warner, I'm sorry,
Time Warner Time Life. I'm

741
00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:16,950
living in the past. He had Time
Warner. They own CNN. And one of

742
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:19,440
the pieces I saw against him was
in time.

743
00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:24,330
So when I when I came when I
came to MTV, so it was 1986 87.

744
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:28,080
And I hadn't even gone on the
air yet. This was sort of the

745
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,750
first week I'm staying in a
hotel I was supposed to go on to

746
00:41:30,750 --> 00:41:34,860
Halloween is when I did my first
appearance on MTV. And so the

747
00:41:34,890 --> 00:41:38,100
and I had no I was very, I was
young for 22 or whatever, but

748
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:41,250
also very, very green in this
type of corporate us

749
00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:44,340
environment. And they set me up
with an interview with TV Guide,

750
00:41:44,730 --> 00:41:48,690
which of course, at the time,
was the largest publication, you

751
00:41:48,690 --> 00:41:51,660
can't do much better than to
have a full page even though

752
00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:55,440
it's small, but a full page and
TV Guide. And the reporter was

753
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,230
asking me questions, and said,
Well, have you ever met

754
00:41:58,230 --> 00:42:00,300
Madonna's yeah, I've met her a
couple times, you know, back in

755
00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:03,270
the early 80s. And we did hash
under a glass. I didn't say

756
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:06,870
that. But I'm telling the no
agenda audience. What do you

757
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:08,310
think of it? Well, I didn't
really like her. You know, I

758
00:42:08,310 --> 00:42:10,530
didn't think she was really
nice. She wasn't a very nice

759
00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:17,520
person. Boy, did the shit hit
the fan over that one. And the

760
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,790
press department hated me from
that day on because I had ruined

761
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:23,220
it. I had ruined their
relationship with Madonna. And

762
00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:26,190
now she may never perform on the
Video Music Awards again. Damn

763
00:42:26,190 --> 00:42:26,460
it.

764
00:42:28,110 --> 00:42:30,630
Yep. Yeah. Well, that's the way
it is.

765
00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:34,890
Yeah, well, you know, the
infamous Michael Jackson thing,

766
00:42:34,890 --> 00:42:39,720
right? No. Well, he was supposed
to appear on the Video Music

767
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:43,590
Awards. At the you know, in his
big heyday and we were doing a

768
00:42:43,590 --> 00:42:45,780
as typically do a promotion
around that. So we had to the

769
00:42:45,780 --> 00:42:48,930
deal was we would debut his new
video also get the exclusive if

770
00:42:48,930 --> 00:42:52,830
we did a Michael Jackson
weekend. And we so an MTV is

771
00:42:52,830 --> 00:42:55,200
taped is not some some
programmes are live but most of

772
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,070
them are tape. So on. We do is
on Thursday, you taped for

773
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:02,940
Saturday and Sunday. And on
Friday, you tape for Monday. So

774
00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:06,420
on Thursday, we did what we call
a 48. That meant a long day. And

775
00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:08,460
we did this whole weekend. It
was the Michael Jackson weekend.

776
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:12,810
We all had to come back Friday
and retake the entire weekend

777
00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:16,770
because we did not specify as
was agreed to with the Michael

778
00:43:16,770 --> 00:43:19,740
Jackson organisation. Every
single time you said Michael

779
00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:22,890
Jackson had had to be followed
by the words the King of Pop.

780
00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:27,360
That's hilarious. It was

781
00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:30,450
it was disgusting. So we all had
to come back and we had to

782
00:43:30,450 --> 00:43:33,750
retake every single segment. And
when it was Michael Jackson, the

783
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:37,800
King of Pop, it was obligated.
By contrast, you agreed to that

784
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,430
idiocy at probably an economist
who later went on to run

785
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:45,000
Maverick records for Madonna or
maybe Judah McGrath. You know,

786
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,750
who knows? A whole bunch of
people but that's how it worked.

787
00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:51,630
MTV was totally the record
companies

788
00:43:51,660 --> 00:43:56,040
bitch. So meanwhile, you know, I
did that reminds me of we when I

789
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:01,470
was doing silicon spin in years
a decade ago. We were gonna get

790
00:44:01,470 --> 00:44:05,370
Richard Stallman on the open
source dude. Open a free

791
00:44:05,370 --> 00:44:09,000
software basic free site. Yeah.
So he wouldn't he you know, I

792
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,610
knew I've known I know the guy
may have run into him a live

793
00:44:11,610 --> 00:44:14,070
chat with him. He's interesting.
And he would have been a good

794
00:44:14,070 --> 00:44:18,120
guest because he he has things
to say that are unique, but he

795
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:24,900
wouldn't do the show. In less.
Anytime we refer to Linux, we

796
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:31,380
had to say good new Linux. So we
couldn't say Linux Yeah, Linux

797
00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:33,780
or anything like that. We'd have
to be good GNU Linux and he

798
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:36,120
wouldn't do the show unless we
agreed to that. And you weren't

799
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,500
I tell him to screw himself.

800
00:44:37,530 --> 00:44:40,620
Yeah. Richard Stallman, the king
of canoe.

801
00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:43,770
You know, he did

802
00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:45,600
writes Emacs, didn't he? Didn't
he write Emacs?

803
00:44:45,630 --> 00:44:47,940
I don't know what he wrote
anymore. I mean, he's mostly

804
00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:50,070
just a guy who complains a lot.

805
00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:51,210
I like him though.

806
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:55,170
He's a sponsor. Most of the
newest aspects of the GE general

807
00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:58,380
public licence and its owner is
characteristics

808
00:44:58,410 --> 00:45:00,930
but still you need guys like
that and Every industry you need

809
00:45:00,930 --> 00:45:02,820
colourful people like that it's
important.

810
00:45:03,180 --> 00:45:05,760
Well, you know, I'm surprised
that he's so picky about like,

811
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,640
you know, you don't see him on
doing a lot of TV or anything,

812
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,460
because he's got all these
requirements. He's like, he's

813
00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:14,520
like a diva. He's like somebody
that thinks they're a Hollywood

814
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040
star, they can make all these
demands, I'm surprised he's not

815
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,840
asking for special kinds of
bottled

816
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,570
water. And maybe he is,

817
00:45:22,110 --> 00:45:25,410
and maybe is, we never got that
far. I

818
00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:29,580
just sticking with the internet
for a second. This is this, this

819
00:45:29,580 --> 00:45:33,420
story pops up from time to time
and just the nouns what some

820
00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:35,520
numbers were put to it. And I
have no idea if it's true, it

821
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,650
comes from the register, you
know, your buddies over here,

822
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,570
which I kind of I must have been
pretty high regard. That now the

823
00:45:42,570 --> 00:45:47,610
European Commission is pushing
very hard to switch at least 25%

824
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,660
of the IP blocks that they
either have indirect or direct

825
00:45:51,660 --> 00:45:56,370
control over to IP v six,
because and here comes. They're

826
00:45:56,370 --> 00:46:01,890
saying that only 16% of the
total IP v4 numbers remain

827
00:46:01,890 --> 00:46:08,610
available. That seems pretty
low. That elusive John?

828
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:12,090
No, I'm trying to think about
this. Because my understanding

829
00:46:12,090 --> 00:46:16,920
was they were running out of IP
for numbers like a decade ago.

830
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,130
And then when they came up with
this idea of rotating numbers,

831
00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:22,470
you know, in other words, you go
into one of the services and you

832
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:25,950
don't have a number you get one.
So you get assigned numbers as

833
00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:30,780
you as they're needed. That kind
of staved off the problem with

834
00:46:30,780 --> 00:46:35,520
IP four in the limit a limited
number of numbers, which you can

835
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,760
figure out by just looking at an
IP address. It's like what? I

836
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,380
don't know. Anyway, the

837
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:42,570
it's actually not even IP
address, I think, isn't it the

838
00:46:42,570 --> 00:46:44,670
MAC addresses? Isn't it one
level lower than

839
00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:51,570
the IP addresses or promises?
What is the 73242424? So you

840
00:46:51,570 --> 00:46:56,580
have like one, two, you got? I
guess there's 100 million, I

841
00:46:56,580 --> 00:46:58,140
guess possible, something like
that.

842
00:46:58,980 --> 00:47:04,290
4.3 billion total IP, the four
numbers remain available for

843
00:47:04,290 --> 00:47:09,990
16,000,000,016% of the 4.3
billion total? Yeah,

844
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:11,340
let down. No, it's probably
right.

845
00:47:11,730 --> 00:47:15,870
So Vivian Redding is the EU's
combative Commissioner for

846
00:47:15,870 --> 00:47:19,200
information and society, which
boy, I want that business card.

847
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,960
She says in the short term
businesses and public

848
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,720
authorities might be tempted to
try to squeeze their needs into

849
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,540
the straitjacket of the old
system. But this would mean

850
00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:30,270
Europe is badly placed to take
advantage of the latest internet

851
00:47:30,270 --> 00:47:33,180
technology and could face a
crisis when the old system runs

852
00:47:33,180 --> 00:47:35,730
out of addresses and what this
smells this smells like bullshit

853
00:47:35,730 --> 00:47:36,150
to me?

854
00:47:37,860 --> 00:47:39,960
Smells like it smells like it to
me too.

855
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:42,750
When you got to bullshit title
like combative Commissioner for

856
00:47:42,750 --> 00:47:45,930
information and society. Either
she's poorly informed, or

857
00:47:45,930 --> 00:47:47,190
there's some lobby behind it.

858
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:52,860
Yeah, there's gotta be some some
behind. Yeah, the Cisco. Can

859
00:47:52,860 --> 00:47:55,080
Cisco money and all the rest of
these guys? I mean, where are

860
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,550
you? Where are you? You know,
where are they gonna go? They

861
00:47:56,550 --> 00:47:58,620
get there. Do you know the
older, everyone's got their

862
00:47:58,620 --> 00:48:01,410
routers and everything else. And
now they got to go to IP six and

863
00:48:01,410 --> 00:48:04,710
have to breed? Equip everything.
It'd be like it'd be worse than

864
00:48:04,740 --> 00:48:09,030
y2k in terms of like dropping
all this money into the system.

865
00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:12,150
So yeah, it's got to be a router
company, or all of them.

866
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,730
The growth of the internet and
China's router company soul

867
00:48:14,730 --> 00:48:17,460
group. It's just the growth of
the internet in China and India

868
00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:24,750
is pressing the need to switch
has to be done by 2010. Wow,

869
00:48:24,810 --> 00:48:27,360
I'll look into it. Yes, you're
probably right doesn't

870
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,820
have to be done. But why does it
have to be? What's the rush?

871
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:32,190
Well, because we're running out

872
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,760
with the how many percentage
word you said we're left

873
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,620
16 16% 16%. Okay, so let's see,
the internet's been really

874
00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:44,640
inactive since about 1995, even
though it goes back before that.

875
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,120
But with the web and all I think
9095 would be a good jumping off

876
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:55,710
point. So we're talking about in
1920, what 23 years. It's chewed

877
00:48:55,710 --> 00:48:58,830
up like 80% of the numbers and
23 years, how many is that

878
00:48:58,830 --> 00:49:02,430
percentage? On a year to year
basis? Why would this thing all

879
00:49:02,430 --> 00:49:07,530
of a sudden show up? 16% in the
next year, when it's only chewed

880
00:49:07,530 --> 00:49:13,260
up? 80% in 23 years? Does that
make sense to anybody? No.

881
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:14,760
Sounds like a scam.

882
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:19,950
Cisco. I think you're right.
I'll look into that. It's just

883
00:49:19,950 --> 00:49:21,810
stuff that I know it's just
another trend.

884
00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:28,380
So 100 nations have reached an
agreement on a treaty which

885
00:49:28,380 --> 00:49:31,200
would ban the current designs of
cluster bombs.

886
00:49:31,439 --> 00:49:35,489
You know, this thing this kills
me. This is all over the news in

887
00:49:35,939 --> 00:49:39,029
in Europe, and everyone's so
proud. You know, it's like we've

888
00:49:39,029 --> 00:49:43,469
done a good thing here. I'm
like, You got cluster bomb? What

889
00:49:43,469 --> 00:49:46,799
the hell is that we've got
enough bombs and shit to nuke

890
00:49:46,799 --> 00:49:49,199
out the whole world and now
we're all patting ourselves on

891
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:52,949
the back because these inhumane
bombs have been banned. What the

892
00:49:52,949 --> 00:49:53,999
hell is that?

893
00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:57,690
To have they banned landmines.

894
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:01,710
No, of course not. Have they
banned to any other kind of a

895
00:50:01,710 --> 00:50:05,910
cluster bombs you know all
evening last night on the news

896
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:09,090
here you see cluster bombs going
off and it looks like reverse

897
00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:12,150
firecrackers right you know like
reverse fireworks it drops and

898
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:15,330
then you see boom boom boom boom
all these little explosions

899
00:50:15,330 --> 00:50:19,560
within the area of where the
bomb lets the Obama militia you

900
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,800
know it's like to hell Jake Yeah
good stuff

901
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:26,340
I'm looking at the BBC they get
like pictures of how the cluster

902
00:50:26,340 --> 00:50:27,810
bomb were Russian

903
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,110
What's that such a big deal I
don't get it is that is

904
00:50:31,110 --> 00:50:32,520
that cluster bomb week

905
00:50:32,550 --> 00:50:35,910
i That's right hey everybody is
cluster bomb week

906
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:40,320
congratulations you've got 35%
off your milk in the supermarket

907
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,590
cluster bomb we you're right
let's ban the landmines that

908
00:50:43,590 --> 00:50:46,740
would be a better start than
cluster bombs landmines are

909
00:50:46,830 --> 00:50:50,430
killing children worldwide. On a

910
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,490
regular basis. Nobody no there's
you know, at least these things

911
00:50:53,490 --> 00:50:55,830
when they go off, you're dead or
you're not good. It's not like

912
00:50:55,830 --> 00:51:00,900
five years later by accident,
you step on one. Whatever the

913
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:05,280
case is, Britain's accused of
cluster bones Britain bands,

914
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:10,950
dumb cluster bombs. We can only
have the smart kind, tackling to

915
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:14,880
Gica stands cluster bombs.
Hezbollah denies cluster bomb

916
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,530
use, let it click cluster bombs
in the news. I wonder why. I

917
00:51:19,530 --> 00:51:24,750
mean, when I start seeing, like
a flurry of one story. I point

918
00:51:24,750 --> 00:51:26,700
this out when I do tech five, by
the way.

919
00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:30,540
I know you do it all the time,
which is a tech five Dagny

920
00:51:30,540 --> 00:51:34,440
veoh.com. And I have learned,
here's how it works. And you

921
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,170
know, I'm doing this radio stuff
over in. In the Netherlands.

922
00:51:37,170 --> 00:51:40,860
It's a very, very small country,
very small community. But it's

923
00:51:40,860 --> 00:51:43,050
really made me first of all, it
made me really sharp because I'm

924
00:51:43,050 --> 00:51:46,650
talking early every morning. But
I'm taking a lot of what I've

925
00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:49,290
learned on this show and on
daily source code, daily source

926
00:51:49,290 --> 00:51:52,950
code.com. And I'm applying that
to a whole Thank you, I've

927
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:57,120
learned that from you, John, I'm
applying that to a yes to

928
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,510
Grasshopper, this time to snatch
the pebbles from my hand. I'm

929
00:52:00,510 --> 00:52:04,020
applying this to, you know, to
these formats. And what I'm

930
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:08,010
seeing is that here's how it
basically works. You the

931
00:52:08,010 --> 00:52:10,680
journalists of all the
newspapers, what they do, and by

932
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,220
the way, RSS has been fantastic
in this regard. They they

933
00:52:14,250 --> 00:52:18,360
subscribe or they they visit the
European Union website. In this

934
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,410
case, it would be like the
Dutch, the Dutch government

935
00:52:22,410 --> 00:52:26,970
website, and they have all these
huge commitments to publish

936
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,720
everything. So everything you
can imagine is online. And at

937
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:35,040
the EU website, everything is
online in you know, 26 different

938
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,610
languages. And so you know, so
when these reports come out, or

939
00:52:38,610 --> 00:52:41,580
these initiatives, and then what
happens is, you know,

940
00:52:41,610 --> 00:52:43,890
journalists will pick it up, you
know, that's, that's their

941
00:52:43,890 --> 00:52:48,510
primary news source, they'll
basically make an abstraction of

942
00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:51,720
whatever the story is, and then
of course, gets copied by other

943
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:54,240
things down the line and before
it, and then it's the evening

944
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:57,210
news, but it all kind of stems
from this stuff that is coming

945
00:52:57,210 --> 00:53:01,140
out on websites at the
governmental level. And then

946
00:53:01,140 --> 00:53:04,650
it's just copy paste as far as
I'm concerned. So I think that

947
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,620
that's the way the flow is these
days, every single thing you see

948
00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:10,650
like these cluster bombs, I
guarantee let me let me go to

949
00:53:10,650 --> 00:53:13,890
the EU website. I guarantee you
there's like some initiative,

950
00:53:14,220 --> 00:53:17,520
some committee that came out
with a report or something like

951
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,070
that, and then all of a sudden
it's top of the news.

952
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,990
While you're doing that, I want
to bring up another story that

953
00:53:24,990 --> 00:53:28,500
came out, which I kind of ended
tech five with the other day

954
00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:31,380
even though I didn't go into any
details, which seems to be

955
00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:36,240
another hot story. monkey's
brain controls a robot arm

956
00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:41,340
monkeys have been able to
control robotic limbs using only

957
00:53:41,340 --> 00:53:44,160
their thoughts scientists report

958
00:53:44,310 --> 00:53:47,340
well yeah, of course. And I'm
sure we could do the same what

959
00:53:47,340 --> 00:53:47,760
we can

960
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:53,760
do how do you think you move
your hand now? Oh, yeah. But

961
00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:59,460
this is a little more elaborate
than that. I don't know. They

962
00:53:59,460 --> 00:54:03,540
got the probe is a probe in his
brain or something it's like

963
00:54:03,540 --> 00:54:05,520
something disgusting about the
stories

964
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:13,200
okay, I'm at the it's europa.eu
By the way if you want to go to

965
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:20,130
the European Union's website
europa.eu And then you get to

966
00:54:20,130 --> 00:54:26,760
choose your I just did a search
on cluster bombs or cluster bomb

967
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,640
41 matched see Commission's
conflict prevention policy case

968
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,620
study you x Oh, and does

969
00:54:34,620 --> 00:54:37,320
look at all the languages they
have to put on this menu.

970
00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:43,200
Yeah, it's a lot, isn't it?
Well, yeah, it's the line

971
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,170
actions. I don't see anything
off that

972
00:54:46,650 --> 00:54:50,730
dole site. Looks like it was
done in like the late 90s.

973
00:54:50,940 --> 00:54:54,840
Well, yeah, that's when they
started. The EU has been around

974
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:55,890
for a while, John.

975
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,990
Yeah, but they could upgrade
this site. I mean, it looks like

976
00:54:57,990 --> 00:55:01,470
something from I've seen better.
So It's in local they actually

977
00:55:01,470 --> 00:55:06,330
had this looks like something
you'd find in a small Iowa town

978
00:55:06,990 --> 00:55:08,310
with a crate with a little

979
00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:12,300
Oh hold on go to the EU was fun.

980
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:16,710
Oh, I see. Well I've got the one
says Europe is fun

981
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,930
to spawn yet you get a little
sound effect plays a set of

982
00:55:21,930 --> 00:55:28,800
brand new games on the Euro the
hell was that? If you have the

983
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,290
Euro the Euro Kids Corner Yeah,
you're hearing all the sounds

984
00:55:31,290 --> 00:55:36,450
now. Oh please stop. You're
killing me was terrible. Yeah.

985
00:55:36,990 --> 00:55:39,930
Do you have one yellow one? Or
is your one blue euro note? How

986
00:55:39,930 --> 00:55:43,350
many Euros Do you have? I don't
know.

987
00:55:44,670 --> 00:55:47,160
A yellow note is 50. And what
was the other one?

988
00:55:47,730 --> 00:55:51,390
An orange. Wait a minute orange,
and a blue.

989
00:55:52,020 --> 00:55:54,660
Oh shit. Let me take a look.
I've got what do I have here? I

990
00:55:54,660 --> 00:56:00,420
got some euros. So blue is 20
oranges. 50. What's the yellow?

991
00:56:01,140 --> 00:56:02,280
Red is 10

992
00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:05,820
What's the yellow is B 1000 Is
something

993
00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:08,640
now there's no I don't think
there's only a 500 note. By the

994
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,240
way, you can't spend anything
over 50 euros in a shop anymore.

995
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,940
Why? Because of counterfeit. The
shops will not accept 100 euro

996
00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:19,830
notes or the 500 for that
matter.

997
00:56:21,570 --> 00:56:23,940
Because really, yeah, that those
seeds are impossible to

998
00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:25,560
counterfeit. They're pretty
elaborate.

999
00:56:25,740 --> 00:56:29,910
Oh, you'd be amazed this is new
money you know there's there's a

1000
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:33,420
lot of counterfeiting going on.
New Money is always subject to

1001
00:56:33,420 --> 00:56:38,190
all kinds of counterfeit shit.
So but I can't find anything

1002
00:56:38,190 --> 00:56:40,890
about cluster bombs right off
the bat, unfortunately, but I'm

1003
00:56:40,890 --> 00:56:43,950
sure there's something there
that it just it's just to

1004
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:46,140
cluster bombs.

1005
00:56:47,310 --> 00:56:49,170
Or maybe the BBC is behind it
all.

1006
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,720
No, no because I'm see I'm
seeing the same thing in

1007
00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:57,690
Holland, Germany, Belgium,
Belgium, by the way. I don't you

1008
00:56:57,690 --> 00:57:02,340
probably caught that. The
Belgian Where the hell is it?

1009
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:03,810
Do we blogged

1010
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:06,660
about that woman? No, no, no,
not about that way that

1011
00:57:06,660 --> 00:57:12,450
what crazy, crazy terrorist, you
know, promoting woman in

1012
00:57:12,450 --> 00:57:16,500
Belgium. We have a blog entry on
her. And it's like the Belgians

1013
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:19,260
and then the Belgians are suing
the beaches are not suing

1014
00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:21,390
Google. That's the what I
wanted. They're suing Google

1015
00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:24,900
because they because they're
getting unwanted links. Yeah,

1016
00:57:25,050 --> 00:57:27,630
you know, people are going to
their websites because a Google

1017
00:57:27,630 --> 00:57:29,940
and they don't want that they
don't want anyone showing up

1018
00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:33,510
apparently. Why are they even on
the internet? I complained about

1019
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:37,110
this bitterly on the on the
Wednesday tech five.

1020
00:57:39,150 --> 00:57:43,140
You know, look at Belgium has
quite a number of problems of

1021
00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:44,040
its own John.

1022
00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:47,190
The fact that it's not a real
country. And

1023
00:57:47,550 --> 00:57:50,340
right now that you know, there's
well there's been a decade long

1024
00:57:50,340 --> 00:57:52,860
rift between the French speaking
part and the Flemish speaking

1025
00:57:52,860 --> 00:57:55,830
part. And now they're really
really splitting apart. In fact,

1026
00:57:55,830 --> 00:58:00,570
there was the Dutch even this is
a story a couple of weeks ago

1027
00:58:00,570 --> 00:58:03,150
said that hey, why don't you you
guys want to join back up with

1028
00:58:03,150 --> 00:58:04,530
us and you can be a part of us.

1029
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,140
To the Flemish Yeah.

1030
00:58:07,890 --> 00:58:09,300
And the Flemish said No, thanks.

1031
00:58:09,930 --> 00:58:13,500
Why not? I think that's a good
idea. Well, why don't like the

1032
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:14,010
Dutch.

1033
00:58:15,570 --> 00:58:18,450
I don't think they liked the way
the Dutch country is being run.

1034
00:58:19,170 --> 00:58:19,830
Probably

1035
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,680
any conservative enough?

1036
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,590
You think there's a lot of
animosity, you know, between

1037
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:26,760
between the two. So you think
it's

1038
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,860
gonna do you think Belgium is
gonna split in two? I don't

1039
00:58:28,860 --> 00:58:31,020
think the EU would put up with
that. It's embarrassing.

1040
00:58:31,380 --> 00:58:34,800
I think well, it's effectively
it kind of already is. Yeah, I

1041
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:40,710
think they're gonna split into
Yeah, for sure. Not that anyone

1042
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:45,630
cares, other than the fact that
InBev is about to buy Budweiser.

1043
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:54,570
Did you know that? I'm sorry.
InBev. I N v v is a huge beer

1044
00:58:54,570 --> 00:58:58,710
manufacturer. They own Stella
Artois. They own Duvel they own

1045
00:58:58,710 --> 00:59:02,400
a whole bunch of Belgian beers.
And now they're looking at I

1046
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,180
think a $50 billion acquisition
of Anheuser Busch.

1047
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,210
You're kidding me? No, no, I
haven't heard this. You're

1048
00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:10,380
shitting me, John.

1049
00:59:11,070 --> 00:59:14,550
Come on. Take a look. Take a
look at I'm sure you can that'll

1050
00:59:14,550 --> 00:59:17,040
be a Google News. Hold on just
do Anheuser Busch.

1051
00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:20,580
Wow, that's a big deal.

1052
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,620
That's not news in the States.

1053
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:27,810
Actually. I think I would have
noticed I mean, maybe it is but

1054
00:59:27,810 --> 00:59:30,990
not in. I'm not so I'm looking
at Google News is not like any

1055
00:59:30,990 --> 00:59:35,490
headlined anywhere. I usually
keep up with the beverage

1056
00:59:35,490 --> 00:59:40,620
industry. So you can see this
$40 billion $50 billion Yep.

1057
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,920
Well, you know, the funny thing
is a probably improved the beer.

1058
00:59:44,790 --> 00:59:46,260
Because I stopped making it with
rice.

1059
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:51,720
The one you know, I'm always
reminded of the story I heard

1060
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:56,490
years and years ago when the
German Brewer, I guess his

1061
00:59:56,490 --> 01:00:01,260
German that had low and brow and
low and Brown was introduced to

1062
01:00:01,260 --> 01:00:04,410
the United States, as a as an
important it was and it got

1063
01:00:04,410 --> 01:00:08,490
really popular. That takes us
like in the late 70s, or

1064
01:00:08,910 --> 01:00:12,990
something like that. And so one
of the Brewers I think was

1065
01:00:12,990 --> 01:00:15,990
either Miller or Budweiser, one
of the two, probably Miller

1066
01:00:17,220 --> 01:00:21,690
decided to licence it, which
happens a lot with quality

1067
01:00:21,690 --> 01:00:24,750
products from Europe, jumbo
Navy, for example, if you buy in

1068
01:00:24,750 --> 01:00:28,350
the United States is not really
made in France, it's made in the

1069
01:00:28,350 --> 01:00:31,620
Central Valley created under
states anything like Dubeau

1070
01:00:31,620 --> 01:00:35,760
name, it's like Coca Cola. But
Coca Cola at least sticks with

1071
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,460
pretty much the same formula.
You can't do that with wine,

1072
01:00:38,490 --> 01:00:43,710
right? So anyway, so they, they
decided that licence did low and

1073
01:00:43,710 --> 01:00:46,260
brow brand and we're gonna make
it here. And so the loan route

1074
01:00:46,260 --> 01:00:50,520
people said to them, Well, would
you like to, you know, work with

1075
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,430
our brew masters so you can get
get it? So it's just the same?

1076
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:57,240
And then the American company
says, No, we know how to make

1077
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,020
beer. And that was the end of
it. So what you ended up with

1078
01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:04,290
was just a bottle of American
beer with a low morale label on

1079
01:01:04,290 --> 01:01:06,990
it and went in eventually just
got taken. I never saw it after,

1080
01:01:06,990 --> 01:01:09,540
you know, after about five years
of that crap. You know, people

1081
01:01:09,570 --> 01:01:12,000
say, What am I paying extra for?
I should just buy the cheap

1082
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:12,450
stuff.

1083
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,240
So I think this deal will
happen. And I'll tell you why. I

1084
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,240
know the Anheuser Busch company
pretty well, they were one of

1085
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,720
our extract, they were our first
client in our previous business.

1086
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:26,850
And we built budweiser.com did a
whole bunch of stuff for them

1087
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,620
really quite a bit of work and,
and worked with Woody and

1088
01:01:31,620 --> 01:01:36,630
Grinder as they're known, which
would be Woody is Auguste Bush,

1089
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:39,840
the fourth and grinders, the
third. And before

1090
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,290
he go on, I did find the story.
And the best headline is the

1091
01:01:43,290 --> 01:01:48,060
following Budweiser to be
remarketed, as a paint remover.

1092
01:01:50,550 --> 01:01:51,210
Anyway, go ahead.

1093
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:56,940
So I spoke to my buddy over
there, we were starting up nibio

1094
01:01:56,940 --> 01:02:00,450
At the time pod show, when we
actually got a nice note from

1095
01:02:00,450 --> 01:02:03,570
the Robert McCauley, who was our
guy, our main contact at the

1096
01:02:03,570 --> 01:02:05,310
time, he's moved up and in a
different part of the

1097
01:02:05,310 --> 01:02:07,410
organisation. He was really
running a lot of the marketing.

1098
01:02:07,830 --> 01:02:10,200
And he said, you know, this was
before they launched that, that

1099
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:15,120
failed project, Bud TV. And he
said, you know, we're really in

1100
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,490
trouble. Well, he didn't
actually say in trouble, and I

1101
01:02:17,490 --> 01:02:20,580
don't want to get him in trouble
for saying what he said. But it

1102
01:02:20,580 --> 01:02:24,330
was clear what he was getting at
because of all these Alko pops.

1103
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,660
It's just not cool anymore to
drink beer. If you go look at

1104
01:02:27,660 --> 01:02:30,150
their sales go look at their
stock price. I think it's

1105
01:02:30,180 --> 01:02:32,280
absolutely the right time for
it. I don't know if the price is

1106
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,170
right, but I think it's the
right time for them to sell

1107
01:02:34,170 --> 01:02:37,590
because the beer market in
general is just not as cool for

1108
01:02:37,590 --> 01:02:41,010
young kids anymore to drink
beer. It's all about you know,

1109
01:02:41,010 --> 01:02:45,360
the Bacardi Breezers and you
know all these vodka drinks and

1110
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:47,880
that's what kids are turned on
to is no longer beer.

1111
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:54,210
David Prosser is outlook in the
independent says his den that

1112
01:02:54,210 --> 01:02:59,760
ran on May 29, which is
Thursday. Do not pay to eat he

1113
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,170
thinks the whole thing is a
crock.

1114
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,520
Just to maybe the pump up the
stock price. Now this

1115
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:10,500
bukem says InBev might like the
idea of spooking Anheuser with

1116
01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:13,110
talk of a deal to leave the
Budweiser on out in the cold.

1117
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,080
This is another word for them to
do something they're going to

1118
01:03:16,110 --> 01:03:18,720
buy anhydrous you're better now.
It's just a very interesting

1119
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,300
story. But it sounds like it's
not going to happen from his

1120
01:03:21,300 --> 01:03:24,120
perspective. But as it is a
speculation is an interesting

1121
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:24,600
idea.

1122
01:03:25,290 --> 01:03:28,470
What's amazes me is that this
isn't all over the US press.

1123
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:29,190
It's like

1124
01:03:29,220 --> 01:03:32,040
I you know I'm just telling you.
The thing is it is it apparently

1125
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,800
is because I'm looking at the I
think it's just buried though.

1126
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,850
But I'm looking at all most of
these are international

1127
01:03:38,850 --> 01:03:41,520
articles, but the number of
articles that show up on the

1128
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:49,290
Google News site 791 redundant
articles about this. So this it

1129
01:03:49,290 --> 01:03:52,080
is floating around but I did
hear Chicago Tribune has a story

1130
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,760
on it. And let's see, and it's
just full and here's the image

1131
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,680
that is downplayed. It just ran
today on March 29. Flat beer

1132
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,560
sales lead, which in other words
is just now starting to be

1133
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,950
picked up, which is a little
late in the game. And highs are

1134
01:04:07,950 --> 01:04:12,210
dumb sorry, flat beer sales lead
to talk of mergers. Anheuser

1135
01:04:12,210 --> 01:04:15,240
Busch faces pressure it is just
a boring story doesn't only have

1136
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,600
it you know, slow growth of beer
market and beer in key markets

1137
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,020
coupled with an insatiable need
to slash costs is sparking

1138
01:04:22,020 --> 01:04:26,250
speculation about a new wave of
brewing industry consolidation.

1139
01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:31,440
Blah, blah, blah. So no, it's
not. It's not a big story here.

1140
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,870
It's the wave of the future
consolidation.

1141
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,410
Yeah, what is the big my
favourite company in that regard

1142
01:04:37,410 --> 01:04:42,570
is got the right name
constellation. The big alcohol

1143
01:04:42,570 --> 01:04:43,470
company. Yeah.

1144
01:04:43,860 --> 01:04:46,530
Well, the other big one over
here, of course, is Diageo. They

1145
01:04:46,530 --> 01:04:52,290
own know, a lot of the spirits
their UK company.

1146
01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:59,040
This is an interesting article,
actually, it's, McGann is Pooh

1147
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,370
poohing the concept. Now I hate
to say that sorry. I like I like

1148
01:05:02,370 --> 01:05:03,450
it when you say poo poo. I'm

1149
01:05:03,450 --> 01:05:05,190
okay with that. Yeah, no,

1150
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:09,930
but I kind of tried to cut it
back because of the complaints.

1151
01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:14,790
So But anyway, this guy is
throwing a wet blanket on the

1152
01:05:14,790 --> 01:05:15,840
story. Let's put it that way.

1153
01:05:15,930 --> 01:05:18,450
Yeah, there was a really good
conversation on twit last week

1154
01:05:18,450 --> 01:05:20,580
we I listened to that
religiously. It was one of the

1155
01:05:20,580 --> 01:05:21,780
best shows I've ever heard

1156
01:05:21,780 --> 01:05:24,960
and just listened to it because
you complain. You thought that

1157
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,110
last week's show was one of the
best I really enjoyed that show.

1158
01:05:28,110 --> 01:05:29,850
Yeah, the one with Brewster.

1159
01:05:29,970 --> 01:05:34,020
I liked the orphan copyrights.
Yeah, I thought that was the

1160
01:05:34,020 --> 01:05:36,510
interesting part of it. But of
course was it was a letter he

1161
01:05:36,510 --> 01:05:39,570
got the ball. Yeah, that was
interesting. It was interesting.

1162
01:05:39,570 --> 01:05:39,930
That was,

1163
01:05:40,110 --> 01:05:43,440
well I admire him. I mean, I've
known him for a while. But I

1164
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,710
admire him for sticking up for
the you know, most of us I

1165
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:48,840
think, you know, in this
situation. So what do you need,

1166
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,780
you know, you give them the guys
knew whatever it was some guy's

1167
01:05:51,780 --> 01:05:55,440
name. I'd be interested in you
know, I figured out who it was,

1168
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,070
by the way, though rarely am
curry guy up in Iowa,

1169
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:02,160
Nebraska. Nebraska. That guy,

1170
01:06:03,690 --> 01:06:05,910
though here's, here's, here's
what I've been interested in.

1171
01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:09,810
And maybe you can ask Leo did
what kind of a What kind of

1172
01:06:09,810 --> 01:06:12,750
reaction did he get to last week
show in comparison to other

1173
01:06:12,750 --> 01:06:16,320
ones? And or was it listened to
more or downloaded more? Because

1174
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,010
I'll bet you that it had a much
lower rating with the typical

1175
01:06:20,010 --> 01:06:22,650
twit audience because, you know,
I think people really tune into

1176
01:06:22,650 --> 01:06:25,170
that to hear kind of the gossipy

1177
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,350
news and news tech news.

1178
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:33,030
Well, it's like no, I'm sure
like the Jason Calacanis shows

1179
01:06:33,030 --> 01:06:35,850
are the ones that ever will well
that was a fantastic show and

1180
01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:38,850
actually when you get I think
it's when Kevin Rose comes on

1181
01:06:38,850 --> 01:06:40,680
the show you really get the you
get the dig

1182
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:45,780
audience Sure. Yeah. I Kevin
Rose pretty smart guy. He's

1183
01:06:45,780 --> 01:06:49,290
pretty intelius Yeah. Anyway, I
just want to say I thought that

1184
01:06:49,290 --> 01:06:51,780
was a good show you didn't
mention me That's too bad.

1185
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,150
I'm sorry about that. You're now
you're acting like Bubba

1186
01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:04,440
and I love it how Leo always
always and I'm sure he's doing

1187
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,960
this on purpose always
mispronounce his all your shows.

1188
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,480
So you've got the take five and
you've got this

1189
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,540
right. Yeah. Take five don't
mind.

1190
01:07:13,860 --> 01:07:16,650
Of course he's doing it on
purpose is fucking me. Oh, man.

1191
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:19,860
It's what happens when you do 25
hours a week of stuff. You start

1192
01:07:20,340 --> 01:07:21,570
to talk gibberish.

1193
01:07:23,070 --> 01:07:24,360
He's doing too much work.

1194
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,050
I think so. As you started those
video things yet. I'm waiting

1195
01:07:28,050 --> 01:07:29,940
for that to happen. I'm so
curious to

1196
01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:32,790
see really boy you need to see.
So go watch the Chris Pirillo

1197
01:07:32,790 --> 01:07:33,990
show, that's what I recommend.

1198
01:07:34,140 --> 01:07:36,840
Because that's gonna be Chris
Pirillo. Only with Leo,

1199
01:07:37,770 --> 01:07:40,200
essentially, I mean, it's like,
you know, Chris, sitting at the

1200
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,920
computer, just there he is he
still there as he moved now.

1201
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,250
Yeah, he's typing something.
Okay, I'm noticing. If you look

1202
01:07:47,250 --> 01:07:50,160
at the screen, it says there's
300 people watching you go, why?

1203
01:07:51,180 --> 01:07:54,840
Exactly. So I'm seeing this
trend, this whole Ustream trend,

1204
01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:57,840
which is more and you know, and
it's in conjunction with

1205
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,810
Twitter. And so I'll see you
like, you know, hey, I'm

1206
01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:05,070
streaming live, you know, I'm
streaming live and like, Who

1207
01:08:05,130 --> 01:08:06,780
gives a shit?

1208
01:08:07,830 --> 01:08:10,380
I've watched these things. Every
once in a while you see it on

1209
01:08:10,380 --> 01:08:12,960
Twitter. Somebody says, I'm
gonna I'm streaming live and I

1210
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,750
have a link and it's the link to
one of these streaming things

1211
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:20,670
comes off of a phone and get
Kelly Lewis did one in Texas and

1212
01:08:20,670 --> 01:08:24,090
she says we're having a meeting
of some sort of a meet up, as

1213
01:08:24,090 --> 01:08:28,770
they like to say, a meet up or a
mash up or whatever of WordPress

1214
01:08:28,770 --> 01:08:33,990
users in some, I guess it was
like a barbecue place in Texas.

1215
01:08:34,620 --> 01:08:38,280
And so I clicked on it, and it's
just a bunch of guys sitting

1216
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,070
around a table with their
computers Oh, meeting up,

1217
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,640
they're meeting up they're not
doing anything for a contest.

1218
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:49,080
They're just trying to liven it
up by floating around you know

1219
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,740
saying stuff to them and they're
like nonplussed about it this

1220
01:08:52,740 --> 01:08:53,280
stuff is

1221
01:08:53,370 --> 01:08:57,570
is ruining things there's this
this this this is this is blog

1222
01:08:57,570 --> 01:09:00,930
is called girl with a one track
mind look at a girl with a one

1223
01:09:00,930 --> 01:09:07,290
track mind.com And this girl was
writing on her blog for several

1224
01:09:07,290 --> 01:09:11,730
years, every single one of her
sexual experiences and we really

1225
01:09:11,730 --> 01:09:16,590
in graphic detail, but not in a
in an in a in a dirty way. But

1226
01:09:16,590 --> 01:09:19,140
really from her perspective, and
she's kind of like a guy you

1227
01:09:19,140 --> 01:09:22,890
know, just wants to fuck all the
time. And she got outed because

1228
01:09:22,890 --> 01:09:26,370
you wrote a book. Yeah, her blog
was published as a book, big

1229
01:09:26,370 --> 01:09:28,200
head here in the UK. I'm not
quite sure how it did in the

1230
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,500
States. And so she kind of got
outed and everyone figured out

1231
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:34,140
what her real name was. Now when
I followed her blog I thought it

1232
01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:37,500
was really fascinating to read.
And now she's kind of fallen

1233
01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:40,620
into this so it's like well I'm
doing a photo shoot tomorrow

1234
01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:42,960
I'll be streaming it through
quick and make sure you check it

1235
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:47,070
unlike stop your fucking ruining
it does write about sex again

1236
01:09:47,070 --> 01:09:48,540
I'm not interested.

1237
01:09:50,850 --> 01:09:54,960
Ruin so girl with a one track
mind.com comes up as a Parker

1238
01:09:54,960 --> 01:10:00,450
site now hold on. So it has to
be something else. I'm

1239
01:10:02,220 --> 01:10:06,810
looking at Abby Lee I think is
her pseudonym Abby Lee see if

1240
01:10:06,810 --> 01:10:08,190
subscribe to it so

1241
01:10:08,610 --> 01:10:14,520
but you're like a fan fan boy
fan boy Adam Yeah yeah Abby Lee

1242
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,860
girl with I'll give it the whole
do the Google thing

1243
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:24,930
I thought it was grow maybe it's
dot co.uk Maybe that's why I'm

1244
01:10:24,930 --> 01:10:32,700
messing it up grow the one track
my shares should be grow the one

1245
01:10:33,570 --> 01:10:35,130
grow the one track mind.com

1246
01:10:35,250 --> 01:10:38,760
on well it's not specific it's a
pipe they're wrong let me go

1247
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:43,170
look at my subscriptions which
of course is I don't see it

1248
01:10:43,170 --> 01:10:48,720
coming up anywhere Well the one
is love reading.co.uk She's got

1249
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:49,500
that site

1250
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,610
Okay, hold on John. I'm gonna
find this

1251
01:10:58,500 --> 01:10:59,250
one

1252
01:10:59,490 --> 01:11:01,890
track not just about her book.

1253
01:11:02,910 --> 01:11:06,660
Hold on I'll get it for you.
This is a thing with it's almost

1254
01:11:06,660 --> 01:11:09,540
like you don't know any phone
numbers anymore because

1255
01:11:10,170 --> 01:11:13,860
girl with a one track
mind.blogspot.com

1256
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:19,110
Crap. Okay, that's it. Yeah,
there you go girl with a one

1257
01:11:19,110 --> 01:11:21,600
track mind. Yeah. dot blogspot

1258
01:11:21,630 --> 01:11:23,850
areas. Here's what you're
complaining about Tuesday, May

1259
01:11:23,850 --> 01:11:27,990
27. I thought it might be fun to
try live streaming some video

1260
01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:31,500
clips to explore what goes on
behind the scenes that my photo

1261
01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:35,580
shoot today. I'm off there
shortly. Follow me on Twitter

1262
01:11:35,910 --> 01:11:39,180
for updates or bookmark Mike
Quick. She's like got all caught

1263
01:11:39,180 --> 01:11:40,110
up in this crap.

1264
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,440
I'm telling and she's in Second
Life as she has an avatar and

1265
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:47,400
she's doing and actually, I'm
just looking at the I'm going

1266
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:53,460
back to October. Going back to
October now almost. And a white.

1267
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:58,980
Okay, so the one was, alright,
march 11 of 2008. You know, this

1268
01:11:58,980 --> 01:12:01,380
is from South by Southwest,
which is another thing that's

1269
01:12:01,380 --> 01:12:04,350
ruining everything. You know how
you're at the tumbler party,

1270
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:07,470
drunkenly caning the free
whiskey like there's no tomorrow

1271
01:12:07,470 --> 01:12:10,680
and then a six sexy Geek Boy
sits down and starts chatting to

1272
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,890
you. And before you know it,
your legs are up in the air like

1273
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,650
so that's, you know, that's the
last sexy thing she talked

1274
01:12:16,650 --> 01:12:19,500
about, you know, and now it's
just all this blah, blah, blah,

1275
01:12:19,500 --> 01:12:23,130
I'm streaming come look at me.
It's ruining everything. It

1276
01:12:23,130 --> 01:12:27,720
really is. For you know what I
mean? Look, I mean, I'm just

1277
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,690
giving you one example. Right.
But this is this is rampant. And

1278
01:12:30,810 --> 01:12:32,730
I don't understand these
companies are clearly going to

1279
01:12:32,730 --> 01:12:35,220
go out of business. I mean,
there's no no business model

1280
01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:37,500
unless that you know, people
have to pay for it. I don't see

1281
01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:38,970
how that's sustainable at all.

1282
01:12:39,210 --> 01:12:42,420
So last time, I had Scoble on
the cranky geek show cranky

1283
01:12:42,420 --> 01:12:46,590
geeks.com. He comes on and first
thing he does is he sticks. He

1284
01:12:46,590 --> 01:12:50,130
sticks his phone in my face and
tells me he's streaming. Right?

1285
01:12:50,190 --> 01:12:53,010
Well, and I'm thinking yeah,
well, that might be but and it

1286
01:12:53,010 --> 01:12:56,190
is probably like, it's just
annoying. Because one thing is

1287
01:12:56,190 --> 01:12:59,280
you should ask anyways, like
rude to be streaming somebody.

1288
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,910
But the other thing is, who the
heck is watching it anyway? That

1289
01:13:02,910 --> 01:13:05,490
five people five really bored
guy?

1290
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,660
I mean, 500, maybe 1000? Maybe
2000. But still, I mean, what is

1291
01:13:09,660 --> 01:13:13,170
the value of that? It's just,
you know, it's reducing our

1292
01:13:13,170 --> 01:13:16,200
productivity as an economy as
far as I'm concerned?

1293
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:19,380
Well, I think there's something
wrong with

1294
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:24,000
me all the time, Hey, man, you
should put up a Ustream feed of

1295
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,670
when you do the daily source
code, like daily source

1296
01:13:26,670 --> 01:13:31,110
code.com, you don't understand,
this is all about theatre of the

1297
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:33,480
mind, I want you to think that
I'm in you know, I want you to

1298
01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:36,180
imagine where I am, I don't want
you to actually see the frickin

1299
01:13:36,180 --> 01:13:39,060
piece of metal sticking out of
my face that I'm talking into.

1300
01:13:39,060 --> 01:13:42,810
That's not cool. You know, it's
about the soundscape. It's about

1301
01:13:43,050 --> 01:13:47,340
the imagination. And you know,
and, in fact, my dad used to

1302
01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:52,830
tell me the story about his his
father, my grandfather, took him

1303
01:13:52,890 --> 01:13:56,610
to see one of these radio plays
when he was a kid took him to

1304
01:13:56,610 --> 01:13:59,880
the radio station. And it was
Neil Green Hornet, or whatever

1305
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,970
the hell it was. And he said he,
he never got over the

1306
01:14:02,970 --> 01:14:06,000
disappointment of seeing how
that was put together, because

1307
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,420
he had this whole thing in his
mind about, you know, the actors

1308
01:14:09,420 --> 01:14:12,150
and the situations and the
scenarios. And it was just a

1309
01:14:12,150 --> 01:14:15,360
bunch of ugly guys stand in
front of mics, banging on pots

1310
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:16,140
and pans.

1311
01:14:16,620 --> 01:14:19,560
Yeah, no, I know. In fact, you
stared at our movies of those.

1312
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:23,580
Many of those productions. But
the weird thing to me about that

1313
01:14:23,580 --> 01:14:27,840
the radio play, which are
available in download a lot of

1314
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,830
them under usually, the key word
by the way that you want to look

1315
01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:36,210
for if you're going to try to
download stuff is ot R, which is

1316
01:14:36,210 --> 01:14:38,730
the it's not a word. It's a it's
a three letters, and it means

1317
01:14:38,730 --> 01:14:42,930
old time radio, right? And you
can find a lot of stuff. If you

1318
01:14:42,930 --> 01:14:45,420
Google something and then type O
TR, and I

1319
01:14:45,780 --> 01:14:49,680
just put a little plug in here.
If you go to vvo.com right there

1320
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,280
on the homepage, you'll see the
old time radio network, which is

1321
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,610
guy named Dennis puts together
and it's it's just collections

1322
01:14:56,610 --> 01:14:58,560
and collections of CDs, a

1323
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,980
lot of there's a lot of good
stuff. They're, and I'll second

1324
01:15:01,980 --> 01:15:05,040
that. But anyway, they would
show these things. And they in

1325
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,220
these these, these shows, many
of them would have an audience

1326
01:15:08,460 --> 01:15:10,860
that would like what your
apparently your grandfather was

1327
01:15:10,860 --> 01:15:14,700
watching, and then they would
pack them in. But it's just like

1328
01:15:14,700 --> 01:15:17,010
why I mean, it's just like
there's no action. It's just

1329
01:15:17,010 --> 01:15:20,250
all, you know, just people going
up to microphones and reading

1330
01:15:20,250 --> 01:15:22,530
usually had a sheet of paper in
their hands. It's not like they

1331
01:15:22,530 --> 01:15:26,730
even memorise these lines. They
were just good at reading. Yeah.

1332
01:15:26,910 --> 01:15:30,480
And I don't know, I guess it was
entertaining at the time. Well,

1333
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:30,810
this kind

1334
01:15:30,810 --> 01:15:33,750
of brings me to another rant
that I'm on, because I'm just

1335
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:38,160
really noticing it, you know,
this. This, I call it I wrote a

1336
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,340
blog post about this 100 years
ago, which is probably no longer

1337
01:15:41,340 --> 01:15:43,770
on a server probably confined on
the wayback machine called the

1338
01:15:43,770 --> 01:15:47,130
copy paste culture. And, and,
you know, I get a lot of

1339
01:15:47,130 --> 01:15:50,190
comments from people voicemail
comments that I play on my show.

1340
01:15:50,580 --> 01:15:54,420
And what happens is, you know,
people will read it, this is

1341
01:15:54,420 --> 01:15:56,580
what the internet has become, as
far as I'm concerned, people

1342
01:15:56,580 --> 01:15:59,700
read an article that's online,
of course, you know, what the

1343
01:15:59,700 --> 01:16:02,460
sourcing of the article is, is
probably dubious to start with.

1344
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,630
And then people just start
commenting on it in their blogs.

1345
01:16:06,660 --> 01:16:09,780
And it just propagates on and on
and on and becomes a game of

1346
01:16:09,780 --> 01:16:13,350
telephone and becomes completely
worthless shit. And things

1347
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:17,280
become truth. At the end of the
day, it's it's bad when we're

1348
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,570
not being very responsible. One
way or the other is just pissing

1349
01:16:21,570 --> 01:16:22,200
me off.

1350
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,190
Well, it sounds like it's been
pissing you off for a while. The

1351
01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:28,890
it's just yeah, there were
things are, you know, it's it's

1352
01:16:28,890 --> 01:16:31,950
a It's all new. You know, this
is not do we, you know,

1353
01:16:31,950 --> 01:16:34,200
Gutenberg was around for a long
time before they figured out how

1354
01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:37,650
to make books work, you know,
besides just the Bible, I mean,

1355
01:16:37,950 --> 01:16:41,070
what are we selling originally,
but, you know, the publishing

1356
01:16:41,070 --> 01:16:46,110
business didn't really begin
right away. It was, you know, so

1357
01:16:46,110 --> 01:16:48,780
we just never was just playing
around. But I have to say, some

1358
01:16:48,780 --> 01:16:52,710
of these things are duds, or bad
ideas or dead ends right from

1359
01:16:52,710 --> 01:16:56,370
the get go. And I would say this
streaming, everything you do

1360
01:16:56,370 --> 01:16:59,790
from your cell phone is one of
them. It's just this, it's like,

1361
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,350
you know, I don't need this.

1362
01:17:01,710 --> 01:17:04,470
But of course, it's in ways it's
kind of training wheels for

1363
01:17:04,470 --> 01:17:07,320
something else, I do think that
we'll be able to that there are

1364
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,470
things that this can be useful
for. I'm not quite sure what

1365
01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:14,130
yet. And maybe I'm wrong. But
this is all just trying stuff

1366
01:17:14,130 --> 01:17:16,110
out. All of this stuff is this
Twitter, like

1367
01:17:17,190 --> 01:17:22,320
this thing on the blog, which
I've done a number of. I started

1368
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,500
doing it with the rollout of the
iPhone wishes call it but just a

1369
01:17:25,500 --> 01:17:28,140
walk through, I'd have these
little cameras that I have these

1370
01:17:28,140 --> 01:17:32,760
little Kodak's is 705, or seven
or three or whatever they are.

1371
01:17:32,970 --> 01:17:35,940
Anyway, they're just little
bitty cameras that have really

1372
01:17:35,940 --> 01:17:38,760
good video and a good
microphone, but they look like a

1373
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,210
little bitty just a little dinky
camera. They don't look like a

1374
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,820
video camera at all the flip. Is
that what you're talking about?

1375
01:17:44,850 --> 01:17:48,990
Like the flip? No, no, it's not.
So the dual dual lens ones. But

1376
01:17:48,990 --> 01:17:52,950
anyway, the thing is, I turn the
video recorder on and then I'll

1377
01:17:52,980 --> 01:17:56,430
just go wandering, I'll walk
with it. And then I'll just do

1378
01:17:56,430 --> 01:18:00,990
some scene like a trade show or
down an aisle or something is

1379
01:18:01,020 --> 01:18:05,460
shoot about two to three minutes
of this just walking around. And

1380
01:18:05,460 --> 01:18:08,850
I get a lot of positive
comments. I got did one on Korea

1381
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,810
recently, I just walked down
some street and curry up to some

1382
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,330
place that somebody mentioned
was where all the hookers were.

1383
01:18:15,330 --> 01:18:20,460
And I kind of missed that. And,
and it's just like, they're just

1384
01:18:20,460 --> 01:18:22,710
actually sent I look at it
myself, I go, that's kind of

1385
01:18:22,710 --> 01:18:26,100
interesting, because you get
kind of a feeling for the place

1386
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:33,060
and it's slightly educational.
So I mean, I don't know, I just

1387
01:18:33,090 --> 01:18:37,920
saw there's something to some of
this, you know, kind of content

1388
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,890
Lester's who wouldn't say it's
content less, but it's, it's

1389
01:18:40,890 --> 01:18:44,280
just kind of random video. The
ones I don't like, it's just

1390
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,590
where you just there's nothing
really interesting. I mean, I've

1391
01:18:46,590 --> 01:18:49,200
done a lot of these things. I
don't post every one of them.

1392
01:18:49,500 --> 01:18:52,410
Because most of them aren't very
good. And and the problem with

1393
01:18:52,410 --> 01:18:55,500
these things like quick is that,
you know, there's you put you

1394
01:18:55,500 --> 01:18:59,880
start to think of it as doing a
live stream. You're, it's gonna

1395
01:18:59,940 --> 01:19:03,570
you know, as you don't have that
you can edit it. So I don't

1396
01:19:03,570 --> 01:19:04,110
know, I think

1397
01:19:04,110 --> 01:19:05,940
that's what you're what you're
saying. Well, you're saying

1398
01:19:05,940 --> 01:19:08,880
they're like this little quick
bits of of Korea so that can

1399
01:19:08,910 --> 01:19:11,280
that comes back to something we
talked about last week, which by

1400
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,500
the way, a lot of people
misunderstood I got so much

1401
01:19:13,530 --> 01:19:16,470
email from people saying that
we're idiots and that all this

1402
01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:19,950
stuff already exists. What we
actually were specking out as a

1403
01:19:19,950 --> 01:19:23,100
system was not quite the same as
Oh, I have a camera that can

1404
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:27,240
geotag pictures yet da, you
know, I know that's out there.

1405
01:19:27,450 --> 01:19:31,890
But the idea that I could be in
Korea, and I could pick up or I

1406
01:19:31,890 --> 01:19:36,090
could not be in Korea, I could
plan a trip I'm gonna make and I

1407
01:19:36,090 --> 01:19:39,540
could then from somewhere in the
magical cloud, pick up some of

1408
01:19:39,540 --> 01:19:42,870
your videos. You know, that
would be interesting. If we had

1409
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:44,430
stuff geotag like that,

1410
01:19:45,330 --> 01:19:47,700
right? Yeah. Because you would
know where you were and all this

1411
01:19:47,700 --> 01:19:51,420
other stuff. So you got
complaints about what? I didn't

1412
01:19:51,420 --> 01:19:55,560
get any email? No, I got your
audiences different in mind.

1413
01:19:55,710 --> 01:19:56,550
Thank God.

1414
01:19:57,420 --> 01:20:00,240
So what did they say to you?
What did your crazy audiences A

1415
01:20:00,300 --> 01:20:00,780
oh well

1416
01:20:00,780 --> 01:20:05,520
you know what what rocker you
guys live in under? This has

1417
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,070
been around for years you know
you don't have to wait around

1418
01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:10,350
for years. Well they
misunderstood they think that

1419
01:20:10,350 --> 01:20:10,500
we've

1420
01:20:10,740 --> 01:20:14,940
been around for years GPS chips
inside cameras what camera has

1421
01:20:14,940 --> 01:20:15,270
that

1422
01:20:15,330 --> 01:20:19,680
and now geo tagging the geo
tagging. We're talking about GPS

1423
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,130
inside the cameras when you take
a picture, you get the geo

1424
01:20:23,130 --> 01:20:25,680
tagging built into the into the
file

1425
01:20:25,890 --> 01:20:30,750
that's been around for at least
two years. What myself Microsoft

1426
01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:32,490
mobile phone

1427
01:20:32,490 --> 01:20:35,610
what camera can I go by right
now that's a cheap little camera

1428
01:20:35,610 --> 01:20:39,060
I can take movies with and look
normal that has that GPS built

1429
01:20:39,060 --> 01:20:39,780
into a camera

1430
01:20:39,780 --> 01:20:43,740
or cell phone camera. Oh, I know
I'm talking about cell phones

1431
01:20:43,740 --> 01:20:44,670
with cameras.

1432
01:20:44,940 --> 01:20:49,050
We were talking about cameras
when we're talking about GPS. I

1433
01:20:49,050 --> 01:20:51,120
mean, I don't want to go to
Korea and take a bunch of

1434
01:20:51,210 --> 01:20:54,300
pictures with a cell phone. I
mean, I want to take I bring a

1435
01:20:54,300 --> 01:20:58,710
good camera with a good lens and
I shoot pictures that are you

1436
01:20:58,710 --> 01:21:01,590
know, professional grade in
terms of at least the megapixels

1437
01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:05,970
and the quality going around
Europe or anywhere for that

1438
01:21:05,970 --> 01:21:08,940
matter and taking pictures with
my cell phone like an idiot.

1439
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,210
Yeah, maybe there's some GPS
stuff in some cell phones and

1440
01:21:12,210 --> 01:21:14,790
there is but that's not what
we're talking about. I'm talking

1441
01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:18,600
about having my collection of
good photos being geotagged

1442
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,320
automatically with the GPS built
into the camera that's was the

1443
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:23,580
premise of the discussion

1444
01:21:23,610 --> 01:21:26,940
right even I misunderstood it
then there are there are cameras

1445
01:21:26,940 --> 01:21:30,060
with GPS but their high end
their high end stuff there's

1446
01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:36,510
nothing really cheap there are a
couple Rico has a has one. I

1447
01:21:36,510 --> 01:21:40,890
think Canon has one but those
are more high end than not

1448
01:21:40,890 --> 01:21:43,440
they're not cheap, cheap
cameras. But of course you know

1449
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:46,200
a lot of these I have to say a
lot of these cell phones now you

1450
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,450
know they got five megapixel
cameras yeah

1451
01:21:48,450 --> 01:21:51,360
but it's still it there's no
zoom lands you can't you know,

1452
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,300
it doesn't have any kind of
really fancy processing in it.

1453
01:21:54,660 --> 01:21:58,200
The quality of the pictures are
always mediocre. I mean, if you

1454
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:03,570
want to make a you know, Wall
precise print, you know by

1455
01:22:03,870 --> 01:22:08,280
doubling the lines with some
software to get a big printout

1456
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,740
of it you can't do it I mean
it's not going to look very

1457
01:22:10,740 --> 01:22:14,220
good. Let me know depth of field
there's no contrast. I mean,

1458
01:22:14,220 --> 01:22:15,570
this is a joke.

1459
01:22:15,930 --> 01:22:20,610
Let me look at my my Gmail. Let
me see if I can find some of

1460
01:22:20,610 --> 01:22:29,310
that. Probably not. GPS camera.
I must say that 10 or 15 emails

1461
01:22:29,310 --> 01:22:30,090
that doesn't matter.

1462
01:22:31,020 --> 01:22:33,540
I just think it's ridiculous
that people complain me. I'm we

1463
01:22:33,540 --> 01:22:37,440
were just talking here. I mean,
if we wanted to, it's not a

1464
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:38,100
report

1465
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,800
that there's a lot of
misunderstanding about what

1466
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:41,880
we're doing John belief.

1467
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,780
Yeah, I know. There's a couple
of guys that moan about it a lot

1468
01:22:45,780 --> 01:22:50,880
for some reason. So anyway, the
point I still want to make is

1469
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:55,050
that if I had a camera that had
Deadwood geotag automatically,

1470
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:59,160
like a good quality camera, or
one of these things like the

1471
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,980
little video camera, I would
think it'd be a cool thing to

1472
01:23:01,980 --> 01:23:05,640
have. Yeah, by the way, I did
get nine mesh I did get a couple

1473
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:09,030
of notes for people but they
said that they were in agreement

1474
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:12,420
with me about the idea being a
good one again, you're right. I

1475
01:23:12,420 --> 01:23:15,210
was always thinking that was a
bad idea. And I thought was just

1476
01:23:15,210 --> 01:23:17,670
a waste of money to put a
circuit in a camera that would

1477
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:20,190
have GPS capability.

1478
01:23:20,340 --> 01:23:24,840
The Ricoh Pro G three digital
camera. This came out in 2005

1479
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:29,130
Actually, I'm just Googling some
shit here. Digi cam so that does

1480
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:33,120
video and and pictures. And it

1481
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,470
has a GPS in it. Yeah.

1482
01:23:38,190 --> 01:23:41,040
Codec had went out ages ago. It
even says in this article.

1483
01:23:42,930 --> 01:23:44,940
So I guess it's lost favour.

1484
01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:49,620
It's gone out of style. So much
for my theory.

1485
01:23:52,350 --> 01:23:54,060
It's funny what time you gotta
get up, man. It's

1486
01:23:54,330 --> 01:23:57,120
mostly a marketing thing. You
know? These things have to be

1487
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:01,440
marketed properly. It's getting
late. At 230 where you are?

1488
01:24:01,770 --> 01:24:03,420
Yeah, it's 230 in the morning.

1489
01:24:03,450 --> 01:24:05,730
Oh shit, man. Listen the show
Hold on. Let me get the music

1490
01:24:05,730 --> 01:24:08,340
and that's that's too late. You
need your beauty sleep, John.

1491
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,920
Yes, I do. Yeah. And I actually
I was going to fly it one I'm

1492
01:24:14,010 --> 01:24:16,860
taking my wife's bags over again
to Holland because she refuses

1493
01:24:16,860 --> 01:24:21,090
to fly with me. And I gotta go
because there's a one storm

1494
01:24:21,090 --> 01:24:25,260
front over the North Sea now and
that will end the round. Around

1495
01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:27,420
12 o'clock, so I gotta get
flying because there's another

1496
01:24:27,420 --> 01:24:29,760
one coming up from France. I
don't want to take the channel

1497
01:24:29,790 --> 01:24:33,600
but okay, dude, you'd be doing
it all day to take the channel.

1498
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:38,790
You do not want to take the
channel. Okay, hey, I think I'm

1499
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:41,550
coming over in a couple of weeks
again. I can't wait we've got a

1500
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,140
got to set up another dinner
date.

1501
01:24:43,950 --> 01:24:46,170
I hope you're not going to be
over here when I'm in Holland.

1502
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,500
Oh crap. No when you're in
August, aren't you? Oh yeah,

1503
01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:53,520
right. Now we got June we got
July. No, no, we're gonna hook

1504
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,400
up an Amsterdam for sure. You're
bringing your family over,

1505
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:56,700
right.

1506
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,970
We're hope we're hoping to it
depends on what the schedule

1507
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,220
History my daughter, she's got
all these projects,

1508
01:25:04,710 --> 01:25:05,790
theatre projects.

1509
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,000
Now that and whatever. Oh well,
you're

1510
01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:14,010
busy. Good to hear how involved
you are and your children. It's

1511
01:25:14,010 --> 01:25:16,920
always nice to hear a parent's
being proud of all the whatever

1512
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,060
the heck the kids are doing.

1513
01:25:18,630 --> 01:25:21,570
I don't know what their kids are
doing all kinds of stuff.

1514
01:25:23,010 --> 01:25:25,410
All right, everybody. This was
no agenda for this week. Thank

1515
01:25:25,410 --> 01:25:28,140
you very much for listening.
Don't send us any email. We're

1516
01:25:28,140 --> 01:25:31,380
just not interested in coming to
you from the curry manor in the

1517
01:25:31,380 --> 01:25:32,970
United Kingdom. I'm Adam curry.

1518
01:25:33,570 --> 01:25:35,760
And I'm John C. Dvorak here in
Northern California.

1519
01:25:35,790 --> 01:25:38,850
We'll talk to you again next
week right here on no agenda.