1 00:00:01,050 --> 00:00:02,130 Death by hooker. 2 00:00:03,090 --> 00:00:06,960 Well, at least you're getting created. Adam curry, John C. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:07,590 Dvorak. 4 00:00:07,650 --> 00:00:11,190 It's Sunday August 15 2010 times your GIBBO nation media 5 00:00:11,190 --> 00:00:13,470 assassination episode two to six. 6 00:00:14,070 --> 00:00:17,730 This is no agenda. Trains are 7 00:00:17,730 --> 00:00:21,540 winning not a contrail in the sky for weeks. No more flying 8 00:00:21,570 --> 00:00:24,030 coming to you from the hilltop Watchtower crackpot command 9 00:00:24,030 --> 00:00:26,310 center and get my nation West and the People's Republic of 10 00:00:26,310 --> 00:00:28,950 Southern California. Yeah, in the morning. I'm the former 11 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:40,410 Soviet spy known as Adam curry. I'm John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill. Me 12 00:00:42,540 --> 00:00:46,500 That's all you're gonna say. freak me out, man. I wasn't 13 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:47,190 ready for that. 14 00:00:47,190 --> 00:00:50,550 I just think if you had the review already on the switch. I 15 00:00:50,550 --> 00:00:50,760 was 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,920 there. I was there and I even got your Hot Pocket soon. 17 00:00:53,579 --> 00:00:56,309 Yeah, well, I didn't ask for that. I did an awesome job as 18 00:00:56,309 --> 00:00:59,249 foggy and cold again. This is the worst summer in the history 19 00:00:59,249 --> 00:01:01,289 of Northern Silicon Valley. It's been bad 20 00:01:01,290 --> 00:01:05,910 in Southern California as well. But today is another beautiful 21 00:01:05,910 --> 00:01:10,050 day it's but last night it was cold we you know we we went out 22 00:01:10,380 --> 00:01:11,040 to sea 23 00:01:11,070 --> 00:01:13,410 or betcha was freezing. There was freezing 24 00:01:13,410 --> 00:01:19,020 we had to as low as 60 had to turn the fire pit on. We went 25 00:01:19,020 --> 00:01:22,260 out to see Billy Idol with Bobby Eaton. 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,610 He's still alive. 27 00:01:24,570 --> 00:01:29,760 Dude, not only is alive that guy looks amazing. 54 Toby sobered 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,520 up. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, he's got his shit together. But it was it 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,290 was a great show at the Palladium, which is I don't 30 00:01:34,290 --> 00:01:37,380 know. It wasn't Mickey like 800 people maybe? Something like 31 00:01:37,380 --> 00:01:42,420 that. Yeah. More. Yeah. How many people now not 1000s. 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,230 Catch my fall. Sorry. Nevermind. 33 00:01:46,470 --> 00:01:47,610 I guess I missed that. 34 00:01:47,820 --> 00:01:49,620 But you wedding did you do white? Yeah, 35 00:01:49,620 --> 00:01:52,290 of course he did. Why would he always great to Steve Stevens 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,600 plays guitar with him. And Steve Stevens is probably as big a 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,250 superstar as Billy Idol. And he was just amazing. I haven't been 38 00:02:02,250 --> 00:02:05,190 to a concert in a long time. I was like, I'll be wearing 39 00:02:05,190 --> 00:02:08,730 ear protection. What? Yeah, that's what I thought. 40 00:02:09,389 --> 00:02:13,979 But anyway, Bobby says hi. And she's coming by to do a special 41 00:02:13,979 --> 00:02:16,919 daily source code. This is a programming note special daily 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,149 source code on Wednesday in the hot tub. And she expects you to 43 00:02:21,149 --> 00:02:21,989 join John. 44 00:02:22,620 --> 00:02:23,730 Yeah, I'll be right down. 45 00:02:25,259 --> 00:02:30,539 She said we can get the booby prize since since the 46 00:02:30,539 --> 00:02:31,619 Netherlands laws I'm 47 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:35,280 perfect. Yes. Probably not a bad price. Yeah. 48 00:02:36,330 --> 00:02:39,720 Yeah, so All right. Anyway, that's a programming note that 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:45,120 will be broadcast live on the no agenda stream.com And of course 50 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:50,850 the party has always is at no agenda chat.net And I have to 51 00:02:50,850 --> 00:02:56,940 tell you that Eric the shill is Skyping you with the effing XLS 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,860 so what is this different? I don't know why because you don't 53 00:03:01,860 --> 00:03:03,660 have it the other one came up so I'm fine. 54 00:03:03,959 --> 00:03:07,739 Okay, well do we have any executive producers to thank for 55 00:03:07,739 --> 00:03:08,309 supporting the 56 00:03:08,490 --> 00:03:13,140 lunch actually well that's and let me read a few of them off 57 00:03:13,140 --> 00:03:15,180 here because now I'm getting another spreadsheet I don't know 58 00:03:15,180 --> 00:03:18,480 if it's any different. But let's start with Paul couture who's 59 00:03:18,930 --> 00:03:21,960 knighted himself while he was already Sir Paul 60 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,590 couture 61 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:25,860 well he's a double Knight now maybe he's got okay well he's 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,430 now he's let's make him he was the Knights of the no agenda 63 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:34,200 roundtable so now he's order the two different Sir Sir Paul 64 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,790 couture statuses Sir 65 00:03:35,789 --> 00:03:36,539 sir. Yeah, 66 00:03:36,539 --> 00:03:38,969 how does that work in England when you have the Order of the 67 00:03:38,999 --> 00:03:40,349 Bath or whatever it is 68 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:48,179 the Order of the Bath. I think you get to blow Charles to I 69 00:03:48,179 --> 00:03:52,229 don't think you can get of that. They have Order of the British 70 00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:55,199 Empire and then you have an outstanding citizen and then you 71 00:03:55,199 --> 00:03:57,689 have there's a couple different ones you can essentially 72 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,140 there's not just those three. Now there's a whole bunch of one 73 00:04:01,170 --> 00:04:04,770 but there's a different way can you get more than one? Yes of 74 00:04:04,770 --> 00:04:05,490 course of course 75 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,300 you can start at the bottom with like an OBE and then you can 76 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:16,470 work your way up to an actual knighthood to the king Yeah, 77 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:17,190 exactly. 78 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:20,219 Basically what the way Paul couture is going we're gonna 79 00:04:20,219 --> 00:04:22,049 have to give him the shopping couture. 80 00:04:24,809 --> 00:04:28,859 Yeah, that of course is from the no agenda fans.com coin 81 00:04:28,859 --> 00:04:31,949 challenge and they're sold out all 500 gone. 82 00:04:32,490 --> 00:04:36,120 Yeah, this is awesome. It's good news for everybody. We also have 83 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,890 as well he's executive producer we also have 1234 other 84 00:04:40,890 --> 00:04:45,690 executive producers. Okay, I'm sorry no three. Matthew Moss 85 00:04:45,690 --> 00:04:50,460 from Long Beach California gave us 372 50 with a with a note 86 00:04:50,490 --> 00:04:53,520 cursing us for using Pay Pal. 87 00:04:54,209 --> 00:04:57,719 How do I not use Pay Pal on my next donation I sent 88 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,580 him an email about how I can mail in a Yeah, check, right the 89 00:05:02,580 --> 00:05:07,320 nobody steals the fees. Charles Jordan. Wait a minute, Wisconsin 90 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,410 333 33 is on his way to a knighthood. I don't think he's 91 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:13,500 achieved it yet. And then we have some people did mail in a 92 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:16,200 check, including David vegam. At hon. 93 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,680 Charles Charles Jordan. Oh, I have a note here. That is 94 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,460 actually his third installment for knighthood. And he wants to 95 00:05:23,460 --> 00:05:28,200 gift the knighthood to his wife Carol. So she can be a dame of 96 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,650 the roundtable. She's a huge fan. He says I owe her a ring. 97 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:36,060 And we need more women at the table here, here. Here Here, 98 00:05:36,060 --> 00:05:36,900 we've always said that 99 00:05:36,899 --> 00:05:42,089 so, so that will not so that will be Carol Jordan. 100 00:05:43,289 --> 00:05:48,479 And then we have a Dave in Vegas who sent in a check for 417 33. 101 00:05:48,779 --> 00:05:52,499 Dave in Vegas. Yeah, Dave in Vegas, which is what he wants to 102 00:05:52,499 --> 00:05:58,289 be called Dave in Vegas. Okay, cool. And that includes a 333 33 103 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:02,309 donation plus X amount of money for each show that we've done in 104 00:06:02,309 --> 00:06:07,529 the past, which came out to 417 33. So thank you, David 105 00:06:07,529 --> 00:06:15,239 Vegas, and then we have 123 Social associate your three 106 00:06:15,989 --> 00:06:18,689 Associate Executive producers and will and that includes 107 00:06:18,689 --> 00:06:22,649 Robert majors from Lake Forest Park, Washington. I was an 108 00:06:22,649 --> 00:06:25,559 Internet audio video video communications director for the 109 00:06:25,589 --> 00:06:29,849 orcas drill. orchestral recording of the Spy Next Door 110 00:06:29,849 --> 00:06:35,699 with Jackie Chan. will get my IMDb listing going with that. 111 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:39,089 Plus the no agenda executive producer. Absolutely. 112 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,050 It's a real credit. 113 00:06:40,110 --> 00:06:42,720 So you get on that IMDB. You can throw all kinds of 114 00:06:43,649 --> 00:06:46,499 this. Yeah, but this is an important credit and it's real 115 00:06:46,499 --> 00:06:49,139 Very good. One is I think I put it above the Jackie Chan, I 116 00:06:49,139 --> 00:06:52,679 think in the order of things. Yes. I concur. 117 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:57,150 Brian Kaufman Tempe Arizona $200. This is karma for myself. 118 00:06:57,150 --> 00:06:59,730 Today's my last day at my engineering job. I start law 119 00:06:59,730 --> 00:07:03,900 school at Arizona State ASU party school. Next Thursday the 120 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:07,560 19th I'm now 600 over 1000 From my knighthood I'll try to finish 121 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,840 before long but the money might be tight. I would think so. 122 00:07:10,110 --> 00:07:14,100 Although Arizona state's a good place. And then finally Mark 123 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:17,400 Wilson of Glasgow, Scotland. 124 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:21,989 I'm sorry, Mark Wilson. Wilson. Yeah. 125 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:27,780 $200 of which Kelsall came in by by pigeon. 126 00:07:28,709 --> 00:07:35,279 Fabulous. Oh, that's very nice. Couple of extra mentions some PR 127 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:40,829 mentions briefly. After all of that crap that we went through 128 00:07:41,279 --> 00:07:45,449 one of our other producers, Pedro dos Santos was able 129 00:07:45,449 --> 00:07:50,129 without a problem to get a no agenda. Oh man might say 130 00:07:50,129 --> 00:07:53,279 everything's got a million things going off at the same 131 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:59,159 time. Pedro dos Santos producer was able to get a no agenda app 132 00:07:59,159 --> 00:08:01,649 in the Nokia Ovi Store without any permission from us 133 00:08:01,649 --> 00:08:02,399 whatsoever. 134 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,950 So yeah, that sounds like they got their act together, doesn't 135 00:08:07,950 --> 00:08:08,430 it? Yeah. 136 00:08:08,940 --> 00:08:13,470 Okay. Anyway, so it's in there. And that'll work on if you go to 137 00:08:13,470 --> 00:08:16,080 the Ovi Store, and it actually comes up in the work on your 138 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,710 phone. And there's a whole bunch of other stuff that they do. 139 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:20,970 Anyway, but definitely 140 00:08:20,969 --> 00:08:23,099 they have some platforms are more work on. 141 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Yeah, but on the newer phones, I guess it's gonna be okay. 142 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,520 And I guess one of the platforms that will work on his was the e 143 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,750 900. Which means that all five people that have that phone 144 00:08:34,410 --> 00:08:36,750 won't be able to listen to the show. Yeah, crap. 145 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:41,160 No agenda words.com is up and running, as I already predicted 146 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,600 on the previous show. That's great. entries. So that's now in 147 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,960 the links that rock. And then I just, I guess we have to give a 148 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,680 giant shout out to the guy who caused us to receive the most 149 00:08:52,710 --> 00:08:59,130 email, because he actually did us a favor. This guy who drove 150 00:08:59,130 --> 00:09:04,830 around the United States when pinpointed GPS points to create 151 00:09:04,830 --> 00:09:12,990 this read a and Rand signal that just shows up on on Google 152 00:09:12,990 --> 00:09:14,760 Earth. I mean, that, 153 00:09:15,060 --> 00:09:23,520 by the way, hitting out today by iron Rand, and you're gonna 154 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,070 drive it today to do the same thing I did was just going to 155 00:09:26,070 --> 00:09:29,670 spell it no agenda. But oh, it'll only be in Berkeley. So 156 00:09:29,670 --> 00:09:33,450 no, I'm heading out. I'm gonna take off right after the show. 157 00:09:34,020 --> 00:09:35,100 And see how far I get. 158 00:09:35,130 --> 00:09:38,310 We know we could easily do this. We have producers and in all 50 159 00:09:38,310 --> 00:09:41,280 states, in fact, we could do it across the entire globe, if you 160 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,910 think about it. And if people could coordinate that into like, 161 00:09:44,910 --> 00:09:48,300 no, no agenda, GPS, bat signal.com 162 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,580 I don't know. You know, somebody's gonna have to work on 163 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:54,240 the technology for that because here's the deal. That guy has a 164 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,590 single, you know, his he essentially has his signal. And 165 00:09:58,590 --> 00:10:01,680 so he would go and tag the The GPS system in all these 166 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,980 different spots to spell out the wordage. Right? But you can't 167 00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:07,770 just have anybody I mean, and because everybody's tagging the 168 00:10:07,770 --> 00:10:11,100 GPS system constantly to coordinate it so that so it 169 00:10:11,100 --> 00:10:14,370 actually spell something either has to be the exact same phone 170 00:10:14,370 --> 00:10:17,730 or jeep. No, it doesn't have to be that way. And there's no 171 00:10:17,730 --> 00:10:20,310 other way of getting having the Google Earth thing show up that 172 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:21,150 way. No, but it's 173 00:10:21,150 --> 00:10:24,480 just a KML file. Everyone can collect the coordinates and take 174 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,600 pictures that along their route, and then someone else can just 175 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,280 assemble it all and put it all together that 176 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,880 would want I like to see that it's not the way he did it. No, 177 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:33,000 I 178 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,180 know. It's not the way he did it. But it's the way we could do 179 00:10:36,180 --> 00:10:39,330 it. We could have enough producers go to certain points, 180 00:10:39,930 --> 00:10:43,680 tag it and then and have it spell Well, no agenda in the 181 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:46,680 morning and have it circumvent the globe so we can top this 182 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:47,130 guy. 183 00:10:47,790 --> 00:10:50,850 Well, we could the circumvention idea like so it's all over. 184 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,450 Yeah, so it's all around the middle of the ocean. So we would 185 00:10:54,450 --> 00:10:57,900 like to thank Sir Paul couture in the order of the mint, 186 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,260 Matthew Moss, Carole Jordan, David Vegas as our executive 187 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:04,140 producers, and our Associate Executive Producers Robert 188 00:11:04,140 --> 00:11:07,710 majors, Brian Kaufman and Mark Wilson. This is a real credit 189 00:11:07,710 --> 00:11:10,680 you are now the producers and Associate Executive Producer, 190 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:12,630 the executive producers and Associate Executive producers 191 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:17,160 have no agenda, episode two to six display it proudly. It's a 192 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,160 real credit and we will vouch for you everybody else out there 193 00:11:20,850 --> 00:11:23,640 in the chat room. Gotta go and propagate the formula. Our 194 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,080 formula is this. We go out for yet people in the mouth 195 00:11:37,470 --> 00:11:38,190 together now 196 00:11:46,740 --> 00:11:50,610 and I apologize to some of my fans of the duck call. Yeah, we 197 00:11:51,060 --> 00:11:52,650 seem to have misplaced the duck call. 198 00:11:53,220 --> 00:11:54,450 Did you leave it up north? 199 00:11:54,930 --> 00:11:56,910 I don't know. I know. I didn't take it out of the house. It's 200 00:11:56,910 --> 00:11:59,970 just so I put it down somewhere now know where it is speaking 201 00:11:59,970 --> 00:12:04,350 of up north by the way. It looks like Bill Gates, his dad is now 202 00:12:04,350 --> 00:12:09,090 on a crusade to get a 5% state income tax in Washington State. 203 00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:12,480 This wasn't gonna go over too well with the people that more 204 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,090 Yeah, he because he's one of the few people that can afford it. 205 00:12:15,390 --> 00:12:19,080 Yeah. Washington State is one of the states that is a personal 206 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,470 income tax haven. Yeah, that's why you're up there income tax. 207 00:12:23,250 --> 00:12:29,100 We were taxed to death as it is. So this idiot wants to add a 208 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:31,680 personal income tax to the state of Washington and hopefully 209 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:34,980 they'll be rejected soundly by the public and anyone who votes 210 00:12:34,980 --> 00:12:37,260 for it. And if in the legislature will vote these 211 00:12:37,260 --> 00:12:40,110 people out of office immediately. Well, I 212 00:12:40,110 --> 00:12:42,090 don't know. He said he should be rebuked 213 00:12:43,980 --> 00:12:46,950 was easy for him to be able to pay an extra 5% What does it 214 00:12:46,950 --> 00:12:49,710 what does that mean? Rebuke down turn if he hasn't noticed or 215 00:12:49,740 --> 00:12:51,150 maybe he hasn't. Wait a minute 216 00:12:51,150 --> 00:12:54,210 rebuked? This is a good one for no agenda. words.com What does 217 00:12:54,210 --> 00:12:55,260 rebuked mean? 218 00:12:56,039 --> 00:12:57,629 told to stuff it? 219 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,180 Definition of rebuked told to stuff it nice. Yeah. 220 00:13:06,210 --> 00:13:07,980 Well, I thought that was interesting, because I know I'm 221 00:13:07,980 --> 00:13:10,080 sure John, you should be shunned again. 222 00:13:10,140 --> 00:13:12,210 He's been forever. You know, it's 223 00:13:12,210 --> 00:13:15,510 really interesting that these rich guys, especially with the 224 00:13:15,510 --> 00:13:20,850 multi billionaire sons can you know, demand more taxation on 225 00:13:20,850 --> 00:13:24,750 the rest of us? And think that they you know, above everybody 226 00:13:24,750 --> 00:13:27,840 else is it's unbelievable to me that I mean, the nerve of the 227 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:28,290 guy. 228 00:13:28,739 --> 00:13:30,269 Yeah, it's pretty amazing, right? 229 00:13:33,510 --> 00:13:36,210 Yeah, it's pretty amazing. Just amazing. Yeah. Why don't you 230 00:13:36,210 --> 00:13:37,110 just shut up? 231 00:13:37,710 --> 00:13:42,150 Slave is a picture of him in the Wall Street Journal to He looks 232 00:13:42,150 --> 00:13:43,650 just like Bill Jr. 233 00:13:44,850 --> 00:13:48,330 Only, only older bills actually looks starting to look more like 234 00:13:48,330 --> 00:13:49,350 him. Yeah. 235 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:53,880 Yeah, so it's a it's a it's an ultra rich people. John, don't 236 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,620 worry about a 5% tax rate on incomes above $200,000 or 237 00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:02,400 400,000. for married couples, and would climb to 9% 238 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:08,790 Ultra Rich says, hey, if the worker average pay is 125,000 239 00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:13,650 bucks. Get a clue. Yeah, you're pretty unhappy about that, 240 00:14:13,650 --> 00:14:14,130 aren't you? Yes, 241 00:14:14,130 --> 00:14:16,650 you're making over a half a million dollars a year. You're 242 00:14:16,650 --> 00:14:19,080 not making really much money you're just getting by. 243 00:14:19,740 --> 00:14:25,860 I did not hear the Horvitz Dvorak Horowitz unplugged show 244 00:14:25,860 --> 00:14:29,070 and maybe this news came out after you did it. Did you guys 245 00:14:29,070 --> 00:14:29,850 do it on Tuesday? 246 00:14:30,660 --> 00:14:31,680 No, we did it Wednesday. 247 00:14:31,710 --> 00:14:36,900 Okay. Did you get the Hindenburg omen? News in there? No. You 248 00:14:36,900 --> 00:14:40,290 know what this is about? No. Oh, well, I'm sure you guys will be 249 00:14:40,290 --> 00:14:44,310 talking about it. This is now everywhere Wall Street Journal. 250 00:14:45,060 --> 00:14:49,560 Everyone's talking about this. This is the so called Hindenburg 251 00:14:49,590 --> 00:14:53,820 omen. Named after the famous German airship that crashed in 252 00:14:53,820 --> 00:14:58,020 Lakers New Jersey, New Jersey in 1937. It's a technical indicator 253 00:14:58,020 --> 00:15:02,310 that foreshadows not just a bear market but a stock market crash. 254 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,080 And this was created by a blind mathematician. His name is Jim 255 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:13,140 Mica. And this indicator is now predicting a market meltdown for 256 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:21,030 September. And it's a it's like there's five criteria that are 257 00:15:21,090 --> 00:15:25,140 supposed to be met for this Hindenburg omen. See the daily 258 00:15:25,140 --> 00:15:28,050 number of the New York Stock Exchange new 52 week highs and 259 00:15:28,050 --> 00:15:30,690 the daily number of the 52 week lows both have to be greater 260 00:15:30,690 --> 00:15:34,050 than 2.2% of the total issues traded that day. It's all these 261 00:15:34,050 --> 00:15:39,510 technical things. Anyway, you can look at it in the show notes 262 00:15:39,510 --> 00:15:42,060 to see all these five indicators but it includes like the 263 00:15:42,060 --> 00:15:45,360 McClellan Oscillator has to be negative on the same things. 264 00:15:45,690 --> 00:15:48,390 You know, this is actually good news because the more people 265 00:15:48,390 --> 00:15:51,120 come out and talk about the thing collapsing the less likely 266 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:51,840 it is to happen 267 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:54,150 though. That's what I was gonna ask you. That's what I was gonna 268 00:15:54,150 --> 00:15:58,020 ask you and but I just find the whole the whole association with 269 00:15:58,020 --> 00:16:02,250 the Hindenburg so amazing because and John, you're old 270 00:16:02,250 --> 00:16:03,270 enough to remember this? 271 00:16:03,570 --> 00:16:06,120 Oh, yeah, I remember the Hindenburg crashing. This is the 272 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,830 bullet it's funny. It's a famous 273 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,750 it's a famous piece of journalism history. Listen to it 274 00:16:12,780 --> 00:16:18,120 down on the field by number of men holding it 275 00:16:19,230 --> 00:16:19,980 just enough to 276 00:16:29,730 --> 00:16:30,390 get out of the way 277 00:16:43,740 --> 00:16:56,040 feet into the sky. Ladies and gentlemen. To the crowd there it 278 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,030 is. Oh, there's 279 00:16:57,030 --> 00:17:01,650 humanity. There is a cleaned up version of that clip. Yeah, I'm 280 00:17:01,650 --> 00:17:04,350 sure that you could actually understand. 281 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,900 Well, it'll sound much better on the podcast than through Skype. 282 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:15,600 Okay. I'm wondering by the way are going public? With the 283 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,750 Hindenburg. Yeah, no, Skype. Skype is filed to go public. 284 00:17:18,930 --> 00:17:21,030 Yeah, this is the beginning of the end. What are we going to 285 00:17:21,030 --> 00:17:21,510 do? 286 00:17:21,660 --> 00:17:24,540 I don't know. I guess we'll have to get real tin cans. This is 287 00:17:24,540 --> 00:17:27,090 bad. This is really really bad. 288 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,090 Yeah, you know shows they go public? Well, actually, here's 289 00:17:30,090 --> 00:17:33,330 what my guess is they're gonna go public and then they're gonna 290 00:17:33,330 --> 00:17:36,060 find some way to make it fee based and if the fees are 291 00:17:36,060 --> 00:17:39,030 reasonable, you're probably cut down on the number of users and 292 00:17:39,030 --> 00:17:40,290 maybe improve the quality 293 00:17:40,650 --> 00:17:43,230 Well, I think we should look at if I wonder if they've already 294 00:17:43,230 --> 00:17:45,750 filed their s one if they filed their s one then we can look at 295 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:49,200 what the business case is going to be and and how they you know 296 00:17:49,260 --> 00:17:52,590 how they're going to convince potential investors that this is 297 00:17:52,590 --> 00:17:57,750 a good deal. Meanwhile, Rupert Murdoch is suing them. 298 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:05,250 He says that they can't use the word sky. Because sky is a part 299 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:11,400 of the word Skype what? Yes, be sky be right. That's his. That's 300 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,630 his his satellite. 301 00:18:13,019 --> 00:18:15,269 Yes, Sky surfaces. And it's uh, yeah. 302 00:18:15,660 --> 00:18:20,490 So he's he's a dish network. So he's in a in a legal battle, 303 00:18:21,030 --> 00:18:29,280 claiming that he owns the sky part of the word Skype. That's 304 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:29,910 good, right. 305 00:18:29,939 --> 00:18:32,159 What is he crazy? With that idea? I 306 00:18:32,220 --> 00:18:35,220 don't know. He's probably really worried that there's going to be 307 00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:40,950 some consumer confusion between B sky b and Skype. Yeah. 308 00:18:43,170 --> 00:18:46,200 Besides that, how can you copyright or trademark the word 309 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,070 sky? 310 00:18:47,550 --> 00:18:50,160 There's a lot of weird trademarks a trademark on the 311 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,140 words the Yeah, well, there's no triple what was it? Triple 312 00:18:55,140 --> 00:18:57,930 three. Pete? What was it? That was copyrighted? There's a lot 313 00:18:57,930 --> 00:19:01,260 of words that are copyrighted. You can't use a lot of weird 314 00:19:01,260 --> 00:19:05,880 stuff. Hey, so they have filed their s one. But it's in the 315 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:10,320 it's the it's in the European Union. I wonder what they're 316 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,360 gonna float it on. What's up? Will it be the London Stock 317 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:17,130 Market? Now? Probably. That could be like, like a really 318 00:19:17,130 --> 00:19:20,520 dodgy IPO. It's not may not be a real one. More of those like, 319 00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:21,810 pink slip things? 320 00:19:23,820 --> 00:19:26,700 Right. Sure. So what do we have for news this week? There's not 321 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:27,540 a lot going on. 322 00:19:27,570 --> 00:19:31,980 Now. There's tons of stuff going on. Like I got some, I got some 323 00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:41,400 kind of real news. And now back to a big flap about Dr. Laura. 324 00:19:43,620 --> 00:19:45,990 who I've never listened to, nor would I ever. 325 00:19:46,350 --> 00:19:48,750 I've listened to her numerous times because she's on the radio 326 00:19:48,750 --> 00:19:51,480 and I listened to everything to see what to keep in touch with 327 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,390 the context in the American psyche. 328 00:19:54,780 --> 00:19:57,810 Well, this was pointed out to me by my new friend Annie Duke, 329 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,940 poker player extraordinaire. 330 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,270 By the way, you I think you'd like Dr. Laura. And anyone who's 331 00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:05,640 ever listened to her will get it. I think that's hilarious. 332 00:20:06,060 --> 00:20:10,500 I think I actually might like her. Because there's this. Well, 333 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:13,950 I have an audio clip. And actually, John, I made clips for 334 00:20:13,950 --> 00:20:17,850 this episode. So we don't have, we don't have to listen to pre 335 00:20:17,850 --> 00:20:25,230 rolls and no complaining roles. So she gets a phone call. And 336 00:20:25,230 --> 00:20:28,380 this is going to turn into a national conversation you watch. 337 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:31,470 She gets a phone call from a woman who was I think she's 338 00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:35,520 married to a black man, she's white. And the following 339 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,860 conversation ensues, you had friends 340 00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:41,220 over the other day got about 35 people here, the guys who were 341 00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:43,800 going to start playing basketball, I was gonna go out 342 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,860 and play basketball, my body guard and my dear friend is a 343 00:20:46,860 --> 00:20:51,600 black man. And I said White Men Can't Jump I want you on my 344 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,750 team. And I was racist. It was funny 345 00:20:55,050 --> 00:20:58,590 about the N word though. The N words been thrown around black 346 00:20:58,590 --> 00:20:58,950 guys 347 00:20:58,950 --> 00:21:02,910 use it all the time. Turn on HBO, listen to a black comic and 348 00:21:02,910 --> 00:21:06,060 all you hear is Nigar Nigar Nigar. I don't get it. If 349 00:21:06,060 --> 00:21:08,820 anybody if anybody without enough melanin says it it's. 350 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:12,750 So that's how it starts off. And then she goes to commercial 351 00:21:12,750 --> 00:21:15,750 break. Because of course, you know, this is mainstream media. 352 00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:19,890 So how can you? How can you continue a thought but she comes 353 00:21:19,890 --> 00:21:24,450 back and then it just goes from one that just just gets the 354 00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:25,620 whole gets deeper. When you're 355 00:21:25,620 --> 00:21:28,410 talking to Jade, what did you think about during the break? By 356 00:21:28,410 --> 00:21:30,180 the way? I was 357 00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:33,330 a little cut back by the N word that you had. I have to be 358 00:21:33,330 --> 00:21:36,330 honest with you. But my point is race relations. 359 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:39,780 Oh, then I guess you don't watch HBO or listen to any black 360 00:21:39,810 --> 00:21:43,320 comedians. That that doesn't make it right. I mean, race is 361 00:21:43,410 --> 00:21:48,930 my dear, my dear point. I'm trying to make another level 362 00:21:48,930 --> 00:21:52,890 that's unacceptable. Yeah, we got a black man as president and 363 00:21:52,890 --> 00:21:56,370 we have more complaining about racism than ever. I mean, I 364 00:21:56,370 --> 00:21:56,820 think that's 365 00:21:56,850 --> 00:22:01,050 hilarious. So so far, I'm liking what she's saying. It's funny, 366 00:22:01,050 --> 00:22:04,740 because you're right. I think she's she's saying some really 367 00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:08,640 some stuff that's on a lot of people's minds today. Yes. But I 368 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,770 think honestly, because there's more white people afraid of a 369 00:22:10,770 --> 00:22:14,460 black man taking over the nation. And be honest about it. 370 00:22:14,490 --> 00:22:18,060 Dear, they voted him in only 12% of the population is Black 371 00:22:18,090 --> 00:22:21,090 White. generation that did it wasn't the older white people 372 00:22:21,090 --> 00:22:24,900 that did it. Okay, younger. All right. All right. chip on your 373 00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:28,410 shoulder. I can't do much about that. Yeah, I think you have too 374 00:22:28,410 --> 00:22:32,520 much sensitivity. And not enough sense of humor, but depends how 375 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,210 it's said. 376 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:36,030 Is it okay, is it okay to say that word? Is it ever? Okay. 377 00:22:36,030 --> 00:22:36,180 It's 378 00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:40,680 awkward. It depends how it's sad. black guys talking to each 379 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,300 other seem to think it's okay. 380 00:22:42,660 --> 00:22:45,300 That you're not black. They're not black. Oh, I see. 381 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:51,870 So a word is restricted to race. Got it. can't do much about 382 00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:52,200 that. 383 00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:55,170 I can't believe someone like you was on the radio sprucing up the 384 00:22:55,170 --> 00:22:56,700 nigger word. And I hope everybody I 385 00:22:56,700 --> 00:23:01,830 didn't spew out the neuter word. Right. I said, that's what you 386 00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:06,330 hear heard it? Yes, they did. I hope everybody heard it did and 387 00:23:06,330 --> 00:23:10,230 I'll say it again. Nigar Nigar. Nigar is what you hear on HB? 388 00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:12,810 Why don't you let me finish a sentence. 389 00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:15,990 It just goes on. So you keep saying it over and over again. 390 00:23:17,010 --> 00:23:19,650 And it's great. And by the way, Nigar should definitely be in no 391 00:23:19,650 --> 00:23:23,280 agenda words.com with the correct definition. And I got I 392 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,190 gotta tell you, John, I agree with her. This has bothered me 393 00:23:26,190 --> 00:23:29,430 for a long time people from from outside the United States and I 394 00:23:29,460 --> 00:23:33,570 deem myself to be somewhat of a Euro American, don't understand 395 00:23:33,570 --> 00:23:35,850 how a word can be banned that way. 396 00:23:37,230 --> 00:23:40,140 Well, you know, that's interesting, because it became 397 00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:43,710 an issue with and in fact, to have a clip of all things. 398 00:23:45,870 --> 00:23:49,140 Schlesinger's got himself in trouble a number of times. And 399 00:23:49,140 --> 00:23:53,190 in fact, one of the times who got so bad that she basically 400 00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:56,670 was going to be taken completely off the air and a woman who was 401 00:23:56,670 --> 00:24:02,760 a who's a talk show host down in Southern California. Man, by the 402 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,980 way, when I play this clip, people are gonna go, Oh, these 403 00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:08,700 guys are rehearsing the show which clip is Tammy Bruce clip? 404 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:08,970 Oh, 405 00:24:09,090 --> 00:24:11,670 we're not rehearsing the show. I'm Tammy Bruno. I 406 00:24:11,670 --> 00:24:13,650 know I'm just saying because it's just coincidence. I happen 407 00:24:13,650 --> 00:24:14,880 to have a clip that addresses there 408 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,150 is no there's nothing called Tammy Bruce here. So just so you 409 00:24:18,150 --> 00:24:18,510 know, it's 410 00:24:18,570 --> 00:24:23,220 it's the now clip. Oh, okay. So, Tammy, Bruce, was that one of 411 00:24:23,220 --> 00:24:26,100 the executives that now the National Organization for Women 412 00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:31,110 and she quit in a huff and we played some clips from this 413 00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:34,530 interview once before months and months ago, but she quit in a 414 00:24:34,530 --> 00:24:38,280 huff over two or three incidents that happened to her one was in 415 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,890 she explains it in here. And one of them involved Laura 416 00:24:40,890 --> 00:24:45,720 Schlessinger and her wanting to win her free speech issues and 417 00:24:46,050 --> 00:24:49,890 it maybe we should play that clip and we can see how this is 418 00:24:50,010 --> 00:24:51,090 evolving. Okay, 419 00:24:51,180 --> 00:24:54,450 which spurred Of course, my second book, The Death of right 420 00:24:54,450 --> 00:24:59,310 wrong about a year and a half later, but yeah, so talk radio 421 00:24:59,310 --> 00:25:04,950 up until I'm now left now the National Organization for Women 422 00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:05,940 in 1997. 423 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:10,860 How did you get though from now to being a conservative author, 424 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:15,210 you know, it was really a fight within the National Organization 425 00:25:15,210 --> 00:25:19,710 for Women during the OJ Simpson trial out here. I saw that I 426 00:25:19,710 --> 00:25:22,620 think as most Americans did, as and if certainly as an activist 427 00:25:22,620 --> 00:25:24,720 feminist at the time about the importance of the issue of 428 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,350 domestic violence, which is colorblind, women don't notice 429 00:25:28,350 --> 00:25:30,990 the complexion of the fist heading toward their face. And 430 00:25:30,990 --> 00:25:33,480 it was an issue that had been really ignored, because it 431 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,020 wasn't sexy, was difficult sometimes to find for the press 432 00:25:37,020 --> 00:25:43,050 the victims sympathetic. So we finally had attention. And then 433 00:25:43,050 --> 00:25:46,590 it started to move that it was an issue of race, which, of 434 00:25:46,590 --> 00:25:49,890 course, was obscene, and was an insult to every woman who faces 435 00:25:49,890 --> 00:25:53,400 this of all races and ethnicities. And so that became 436 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,130 an internal fight. And I realized that something had 437 00:25:56,130 --> 00:26:00,960 happened, that when I was being asked by the national office, to 438 00:26:00,990 --> 00:26:04,620 retreat on that issue, that the issues of race were more 439 00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:07,350 important. You know, there's a lot of organizations that deal 440 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:10,500 with race in the country. And that's an important issue. But 441 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:14,070 my job was to deal with issues of women, all women that fit 442 00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:17,700 within that envelope, and so that that was a wake up call, in 443 00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:20,460 addition to the attacks on Laura Schlessinger, I noticed an 444 00:26:20,460 --> 00:26:24,600 interesting trend, to this demand for surrender and 445 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,590 retreat, a demand in general socially for people not to speak 446 00:26:28,590 --> 00:26:32,520 up. And on my issues. You know, look, I think dealing with 447 00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:37,530 violence against women is nonpartisan. I was always a 448 00:26:37,530 --> 00:26:39,570 little bit of a thorn in the side. And now because my 449 00:26:39,570 --> 00:26:42,330 politics really where I thought we should organize ourselves out 450 00:26:42,330 --> 00:26:47,670 of business. And another click for me was when I was told by my 451 00:26:47,670 --> 00:26:51,660 mentor now that it was important to rub salt into the wound, so 452 00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:55,890 that we would always be needed. That wasn't my method. My method 453 00:26:55,890 --> 00:27:00,600 was success. So I realized I could do more on the issues that 454 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,260 matter to me by being outside of the organization, that I could 455 00:27:04,260 --> 00:27:07,590 be free or speak my mind. And that certainly ended up being 456 00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:08,160 the case. 457 00:27:09,690 --> 00:27:12,240 So the Laura Schlessinger initial thing that she got 458 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,660 involved with was apparently Schlesinger said something some 459 00:27:15,690 --> 00:27:18,630 about gay women or something that was that got everybody 460 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:22,410 worked up very similar to the situation occurring now. And 461 00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:28,050 Tammy, Bruce is a lesbian. She's an she's, you know, she, she's, 462 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,840 she's, she says, she's a lesbian. She's, you know, she's 463 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:37,950 not like a hidden lesbian, issue hot. She's in kind of Merkley 464 00:27:37,950 --> 00:27:38,490 kind of like, 465 00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:40,830 okay, Berkeley lesbian. 466 00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:44,700 She has unwashed hair on Washington, not a bad 467 00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:47,400 looking woman. So anyway, so she came on. So she had to, she 468 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,060 defended Schlesinger, because it's a free speech issue. And 469 00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:53,940 this is going on. I mean, this is again, a free speech issue. 470 00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:59,340 Now that said, you know, it's one of those things like the 471 00:27:59,370 --> 00:28:02,850 mosque in New York, Ohio, it's just one of these things. It's 472 00:28:02,850 --> 00:28:07,440 okay. It just triggers a lot of stuff. sleisenger is in for a 473 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,670 shitstorm. Here. 474 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,730 Well, she already came out and apologized, she came out, oh, 475 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:15,180 she gets a response. So she'll get kicked off the air, the 476 00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:17,400 sponsors will, will close down her show. 477 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,070 This is one of the problems of course, with commercial 478 00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:23,130 broadcasting Exactly. Which we talk about every so often. We 479 00:28:23,130 --> 00:28:26,250 can do whatever we want. I mean, if people I mean, we get a lot 480 00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:27,990 of nasty notes occasionally. 481 00:28:28,410 --> 00:28:31,920 Yeah. From time to time, how come? They're always directed at 482 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,370 me? 483 00:28:33,090 --> 00:28:37,860 Well, well, for good reason. Yeah. The point is, is that we, 484 00:28:37,890 --> 00:28:40,530 you know, don't have a sponsor that can pull the plug on the 485 00:28:40,530 --> 00:28:43,980 show we all we have to do is either ignore the nasty notes, 486 00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:47,310 or we can apologize or we can say, you know, a lot of the I 487 00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:49,680 mean, essentially the listeners are the sponsors. And so if 488 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,140 they'd say, if they complain to us, and they're and they're 489 00:28:52,380 --> 00:28:56,850 their big sponsors, in other words, they, they contribute a 490 00:28:56,850 --> 00:29:00,390 lot, we tend to probably we will, will apologize to him very 491 00:29:00,390 --> 00:29:04,350 quickly. It's not the same as apologizing to somebody who's 492 00:29:04,350 --> 00:29:07,680 selling cars or selling drugs, 493 00:29:07,710 --> 00:29:10,170 ya know, we have conversations all the time with our listeners, 494 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,770 one guy was offended about something I said about the 495 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,390 apparently gay flight attendant who pulled the chute. And yeah, 496 00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:20,430 and then you know, what's interesting is you shot you 497 00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:22,620 shoot him an email back, and then he's like, Well, you know, 498 00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:24,840 hey, you know, you got a point there. And actually, that'll 499 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,740 come up later in our, in our knighting of Dame Carol Jordan. 500 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,920 You know, he said, Well, there's a couple of things I'd like to 501 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,710 point out and then it usually turns out okay, you know, people 502 00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:35,550 are reasonable. 503 00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:38,550 Yeah, well, we do communicate with our listeners in a very 504 00:29:38,550 --> 00:29:41,070 common way. I mean, we don't get back to everybody, but we get 505 00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:43,260 back to a heck of a lot more people than almost anybody else 506 00:29:43,260 --> 00:29:48,750 doing this kind of show. But anyway, so this is kind of an 507 00:29:48,780 --> 00:29:53,100 interesting thing to Tammy Bruce is a very interesting she's an 508 00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:58,590 interesting person as a former now, an out lesbian and a 509 00:29:58,590 --> 00:30:01,800 conservative, conservative The talk show host the combination 510 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,650 is good one is hard to argue against. Because it's like, 511 00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:07,020 well, you know, your perspectives. It's a weird 512 00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:10,200 perspective to take. I think, I think on the conservative side, 513 00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:17,040 there's a lot more people that are have reasonable discussion 514 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,950 points, then then you see on the liberal side, which is very knee 515 00:30:19,950 --> 00:30:22,710 jerk and the whole thing, it's it's very depressing to listen 516 00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:27,600 to Thom Hartmann, for example, from the thumb, sorry, that Tom 517 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,750 Hartman is very hard to listen to, because he it makes you 518 00:30:30,750 --> 00:30:33,960 cringe that he's just going, you know, it's just, it's, it's 519 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,810 like, it's more than just talking points. It's like a 520 00:30:36,810 --> 00:30:40,230 litany that they stick to. And it's weird. Well, there's 521 00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:43,620 some but there is something going on. I guess on the 522 00:30:43,620 --> 00:30:47,460 conservative side, which is, you know, Glenn Beck, you brought up 523 00:30:47,460 --> 00:30:50,940 the the mosque, by the way, this is very interesting how this is 524 00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:54,180 propagating throughout the United States of Europe. People 525 00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:56,460 are emailing me and we talked about this long, you know, 526 00:30:56,490 --> 00:30:59,220 months ago, I think when it first came to committee in New 527 00:30:59,220 --> 00:31:04,050 York to build this mosque slash we've done it immediately. And I 528 00:31:04,050 --> 00:31:07,350 was like, oh, whatever, you know, this is crazy, but it's 529 00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:11,490 alright. And but but in Europe, they're like, Wow, we can't 530 00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:14,370 believe that this is an outrage know, the place where the 531 00:31:14,370 --> 00:31:18,390 Muslims and say, Wow, I mean, it's one thing to say, there are 532 00:31:18,390 --> 00:31:21,120 a bunch of terrorists, which of course, we know, it was all an 533 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,190 inside job, but that doesn't matter. The story is it was a 534 00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:25,710 bunch of terrorists with box cutters who did amazing things 535 00:31:25,710 --> 00:31:30,570 with aeroplanes. But you know, that they say, oh, it's Muslims, 536 00:31:30,570 --> 00:31:35,820 and what a slap in the face to have a mosque at ground zero. So 537 00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:39,870 Glenn Beck goes on the what is the name of that show? It's like 538 00:31:39,870 --> 00:31:44,700 red light or something at night on Fox. It's like a talk show. 539 00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:47,850 It's on. It's on. Like, after midnight. Nobody watches it. 540 00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:51,750 Nobody watches it. Except me. I do do staying 541 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:54,840 up too late. Yeah, well, I'm watching Billy. You know, but 542 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,330 it's kind of play a little clip. Yeah, play. 543 00:31:57,420 --> 00:32:02,220 Okay. This is this is back. This is back with it with a guy for 544 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:03,420 read. I think it's called. 545 00:32:03,690 --> 00:32:06,360 And you get a recorder. How are you having these all these clips 546 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,050 now? Because I was tired. What do you How you doing it? Do 547 00:32:10,050 --> 00:32:13,530 you have a recorder? Yeah, it's called the IG get an h2 Er, 548 00:32:13,530 --> 00:32:16,770 which I just use the iPhone. The iPhone four is pretty 549 00:32:16,770 --> 00:32:19,410 outstanding when it comes to this stuff now. Thank you, Steve 550 00:32:19,410 --> 00:32:19,830 Jobs 551 00:32:19,950 --> 00:32:23,250 and the author of the Bible of unspeakable truth. 552 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,150 I guess he Yeah. Okay. Which you have to read. It's laugh out 553 00:32:27,150 --> 00:32:33,270 loud. Funny. Okay. So, Greg, yes. Give me your proposal. 554 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,450 Well, you know, I was thinking, I went on to their website, the 555 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,270 Cordoba House website. It's a lovely website. And they talk 556 00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:42,570 about preaching tolerance and communication. And I thought, 557 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,150 how interesting is it that they're preaching tolerance and 558 00:32:45,150 --> 00:32:48,510 communication to Americans? Wouldn't it be great to test 559 00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:52,830 their tolerance, so I figured, let's open an Islam friendly gay 560 00:32:52,830 --> 00:32:56,460 bar next door to the mosque. That's my proposal. 561 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,300 So that by itself is like, okay, hahaha. But then then they go 562 00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:03,150 off John, and they start coming up with names for the gay bar. 563 00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:07,170 It's just like, whoa, sticking by it. I'm not a good 564 00:33:07,170 --> 00:33:10,590 businessman, and I'm a terrible activist. But this might be the 565 00:33:10,590 --> 00:33:12,420 greatest idea I've ever had. 566 00:33:12,660 --> 00:33:14,100 But you are very, very funny. 567 00:33:14,490 --> 00:33:18,930 Yeah. So are you am I joking, is what I'm saying is we'll give me 568 00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:25,830 some of the names of the well, I like I like G hot jihad for G 569 00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:33,600 hunk. Infidel Licious. Or turban cowboy. Cowboy. My favorite but 570 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,630 suspicious packages Yes. That's a nice one. 571 00:33:37,890 --> 00:33:42,270 That's funny shit. That they wrote some good stuff there. 572 00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:45,240 There's a couple more 573 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:51,570 RAM mme. There Yeah, there are other ones that I don't think 574 00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:53,550 you met me hot. 575 00:33:55,410 --> 00:33:58,860 Mean? It's like so are we just out and out? Gonna go insult 576 00:33:58,860 --> 00:34:03,600 everybody now? We got niggers we got gay Muslims. It's like, 577 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,230 Whoa, this is like, who wrote the memo? And what exactly did 578 00:34:07,230 --> 00:34:09,210 it say? What are we supposed to be doing here? 579 00:34:10,139 --> 00:34:11,969 I don't know. It's it's interesting that this would be 580 00:34:11,969 --> 00:34:15,599 going on. It's free. This has to do with the suppression of free 581 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:18,929 speech. And this started starting to crop up the the the 582 00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:23,489 resistance to it is cropping up in all sorts of ways. Because 583 00:34:23,489 --> 00:34:25,079 essentially, we've been, but 584 00:34:25,649 --> 00:34:30,389 I'm sorry. I'm sorry, John. The chat room is doing more gags, 585 00:34:30,419 --> 00:34:36,389 but bomber. G fabulous. That's crazy. 586 00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:40,140 Okay, so the fact is we don't have a First Amendment anymore. 587 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,890 You can't do this. You can't do that. You can't say this. You 588 00:34:43,890 --> 00:34:47,760 can't say that. In fact, I have another clip on there, which has 589 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,030 to do with this. If I could figure out which one is free 590 00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:53,880 speech, I bet right. Yeah, that would be to minimize we'll just 591 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,030 play that just to keep stay in the in the mood. 592 00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:00,690 The result of that would be you get five years for arson and 593 00:35:00,690 --> 00:35:02,310 what is this? What is the where's this from? 594 00:35:02,340 --> 00:35:08,160 This is a guy talking about his book, which is I don't know what 595 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,830 the hell book it is. But it just it just matches his family. His 596 00:35:10,830 --> 00:35:13,740 was it used to be an eco terrorist, and now he's gets 597 00:35:13,740 --> 00:35:15,540 thrown in jail for just speaking. And 598 00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:17,790 is this on C span? Or? Yes, he's been 599 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,540 the result of that would be you get five years for arson and 600 00:35:21,570 --> 00:35:23,910 under those current laws back at that time, and he got caught. 601 00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:26,490 And he did exactly five years for arson, he got out it was a 602 00:35:26,490 --> 00:35:29,910 calculation on his part. He didn't know that somewhere down 603 00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:32,130 the line, there could be a terrorism enhancement on 604 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:34,470 something like that, that could put you in jail, basically, for 605 00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:39,150 life. But also, he didn't know that about 20 years, well, 15 606 00:35:39,150 --> 00:35:42,660 years, 20 years later, he was making a speech in San Diego and 607 00:35:42,660 --> 00:35:45,840 someone asked him a question about how he used to make his 608 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,080 incendiaries. And this is a guy who now has two kids. And he's 609 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,080 kind of on a lecture circuit. And he's doing his thing. And he 610 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,380 answered the question. And they got him for that. And they tried 611 00:35:55,380 --> 00:35:57,990 to get him for 18 years for terrorism, for answering the 612 00:35:57,990 --> 00:36:02,130 question. Because it's now you know, I guess you have to watch 613 00:36:02,130 --> 00:36:05,790 what you say it was about a very little known law about teaching 614 00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:09,480 people to make incendiaries. And they didn't get him for the 18 615 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,730 years. But they did get him to take a plea and he did a year in 616 00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:16,530 a day. So you know, as far as how it's affecting, people are 617 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,290 really very confused. Because you know, there may not be the 618 00:36:19,290 --> 00:36:22,290 political will to make some these big changes that we talked 619 00:36:22,290 --> 00:36:24,570 about, there's plenty of political will to go after 620 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,440 targeted people like anarchists and eco radicals because it 621 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,990 sends a message, you know that these are not the ways that we 622 00:36:30,990 --> 00:36:33,600 should be doing these things. But we got to be careful about 623 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,340 how far that can be pushed. 624 00:36:36,659 --> 00:36:41,039 Because I want to point one thing out besides this situation 625 00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:43,799 with this guy who got thrown in jail for a year for just 626 00:36:43,799 --> 00:36:48,359 talking. And you know, pos 911 Is the Patriot Act, and this has 627 00:36:48,359 --> 00:36:53,759 been this began way before 911. I remember and you probably can 628 00:36:53,789 --> 00:36:59,099 recall this incident that a Russian kid speaking at one of 629 00:36:59,099 --> 00:37:06,989 the conferences and round 9899 came out and discussed reverse 630 00:37:06,989 --> 00:37:11,849 engineered some Adobe copy protection scheme and explained 631 00:37:11,849 --> 00:37:12,839 it to the audience. 632 00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:16,680 Oh, yeah, he actually talked about it your I do remember 633 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,190 this. Yeah. 634 00:37:17,219 --> 00:37:21,779 All he did was talk about it. And it resulted in him being 635 00:37:21,809 --> 00:37:29,699 arrested under some D. DMC DMCA, DMCA, the DMCA. And he was 636 00:37:29,699 --> 00:37:34,229 thrown in jail for just talking about something. And then he got 637 00:37:34,229 --> 00:37:36,539 out on bail and just headed out of the country and went to 638 00:37:36,539 --> 00:37:38,969 Russia and refused to return back for good reason. By the 639 00:37:38,969 --> 00:37:42,659 way, anyone see what you here's a classic movie for the 640 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,709 entertainment guys in their movie club. I was a prisoner on 641 00:37:46,709 --> 00:37:51,149 a chain gang with Paul Muni in the 30s. And here's a guy, it's 642 00:37:51,149 --> 00:37:54,479 a great movie because it shows how the guy was railroaded. And 643 00:37:54,479 --> 00:37:57,479 this Russian kid wasn't gonna take any chances with the stupid 644 00:37:57,479 --> 00:38:00,539 system. And he went back to Russia where he was safer than 645 00:38:00,539 --> 00:38:04,379 he would be here, which is disgusting concept. But the 646 00:38:04,379 --> 00:38:08,009 point is, is that all he did was talk. So our free speech is 647 00:38:08,009 --> 00:38:08,579 gone. 648 00:38:08,729 --> 00:38:11,579 Do you think do you think they're crazy? Do you think 649 00:38:11,579 --> 00:38:17,489 maybe this is here's just a wild theory. So we know that the 650 00:38:17,489 --> 00:38:21,719 fairness doctrine has been cropping up the the left who of 651 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,409 course, their their talk shows and their radio, certainly on 652 00:38:25,409 --> 00:38:28,769 the radio is just almost non existent. And there's been a lot 653 00:38:28,769 --> 00:38:31,169 of talk even from the White House about, oh, we've got to 654 00:38:31,169 --> 00:38:33,809 put the Fairness Doctrine back into effect, which means you 655 00:38:33,809 --> 00:38:37,979 have to give equal airtime on everything. Literally everything 656 00:38:37,979 --> 00:38:40,409 you say, which is just ludicrous. I mean, you couldn't 657 00:38:40,409 --> 00:38:45,449 have a show anymore. Do you think maybe the FCC ruling that 658 00:38:45,479 --> 00:38:49,109 essentially said oh, you can use all kinds of expletive words 659 00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:52,109 after the watershed which is after I think 10pm You think 660 00:38:52,109 --> 00:38:53,819 they're trying to? It's a 10? 661 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,870 I think it's Stanford generally but it was always open wide open 662 00:38:57,870 --> 00:38:58,470 after midnight 663 00:38:59,099 --> 00:39:01,769 after midnight. Yeah. Do you think maybe it's like let them 664 00:39:01,769 --> 00:39:06,029 all go crazy? Let them all say all these outrageous things and 665 00:39:06,029 --> 00:39:08,969 then you know then someone will you know it'll become public 666 00:39:08,969 --> 00:39:13,679 topic of discussion everyone's gonna be outraged by Dr. Laura 667 00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:17,969 saying nigger by this whole Glenn Beck you know, gay thing 668 00:39:17,969 --> 00:39:21,659 which of course is patently offensive to homosexuals and 669 00:39:21,659 --> 00:39:26,009 Muslims alike and Muslims alike. Yeah, double Yeah. And and then 670 00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:28,709 we're going to clamp down like this has gotten out of control. 671 00:39:28,709 --> 00:39:31,139 We've got to we've got to put in regulation. Do you think that's 672 00:39:31,139 --> 00:39:36,179 possible? I like it. And by the way, when people label me a 673 00:39:36,179 --> 00:39:39,749 conspiracy theorist that's offensive to me to know that 674 00:39:39,749 --> 00:39:43,259 that has now become a bad word. So you know, it's like everyone 675 00:39:43,259 --> 00:39:44,729 can be offended about something. 676 00:39:45,059 --> 00:39:47,159 Well, yeah, you can be offended about something everyone can do 677 00:39:47,189 --> 00:39:50,789 that conspiracy theory theorists thing is become a meme and the 678 00:39:50,789 --> 00:39:54,659 culture to marginalize anybody who has any thoughts that are 679 00:39:54,659 --> 00:39:57,809 outside of the whatever's lockstep it's in the checklist 680 00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:02,969 and not not just in in our US culture. People in the 681 00:40:02,969 --> 00:40:08,039 Netherlands who I met in Bonaire to Oh, you are a conspiracy 682 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:12,419 theorist. So yeah, that's what I am. So they already have the 683 00:40:12,419 --> 00:40:15,359 meme. It's spread worldwide. It's like it's like, oh, when 684 00:40:15,359 --> 00:40:18,599 you talk about things like, oh, I don't know 685 00:40:23,849 --> 00:40:26,039 then you're a conspiracy theorist. 686 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:29,970 But you are. Well, so. 687 00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:34,680 All right old man. I'm double the ages. I'll just be a just on 688 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,800 your old is what you are. Yeah. All Drew. Oh, 689 00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:40,289 you look can you're in ages to your Chrome. Yeah, that's 690 00:40:40,290 --> 00:40:43,200 what I just said. You want to? You want to slam me? I'll slam 691 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:43,650 you back. 692 00:40:45,059 --> 00:40:47,399 But you're slamming you're not slamming? Oh, you're not that's 693 00:40:47,399 --> 00:40:47,999 that's? 694 00:40:48,570 --> 00:40:50,970 Yeah. When I say you're an old man. Yeah, that's that's very 695 00:40:50,970 --> 00:40:55,080 rude. But let's put it this way. You know Billy Idol. Okay. 696 00:40:56,460 --> 00:40:58,710 So you have a crush on Billy Idol knows what you tell him. 697 00:40:58,770 --> 00:41:01,740 I have a crush on Steve Stevens. He had this guitar that lit up. 698 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,790 It was fucking awesome. 699 00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:05,280 Never heard of the guy, 700 00:41:05,309 --> 00:41:10,469 Steve Stevens. Oh, my God. It's he's he's a legend. I've heard a 701 00:41:10,469 --> 00:41:14,519 Billy Idol. Of course. Stevens is amazing, is a great guy. And 702 00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:17,429 it was good. But and you've heard of Bobby Eaton. Yeah, 703 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,850 everyone has ever since he took on that I made that bet. The 704 00:41:20,850 --> 00:41:21,750 public bet she 705 00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:27,150 says some people were actually very angry. Very well, I 706 00:41:27,150 --> 00:41:28,290 was I've Well, 707 00:41:28,289 --> 00:41:31,379 we're going to talk about it in the hot tub on Wednesday. So 708 00:41:31,379 --> 00:41:37,259 anyway, I have just a fabulous little little ditty that I came 709 00:41:37,259 --> 00:41:44,429 across. You filter that hot tub. We cleansed it before 710 00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:48,480 we moved in. We cleanse it after if I were you. So go ahead. 711 00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:53,670 So there's this story on Gizmodo, which actually was a 712 00:41:53,670 --> 00:42:01,680 rewrite from the Atlantic, the monthly magazine, I guess. And 713 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,160 so that Gizmodo titled it how ankle monitors could replace 714 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,510 prisons. And so I was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 715 00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:12,750 you know, all this stuff. And they basically they just ripped 716 00:42:12,750 --> 00:42:16,650 off the Atlantic magazine, which had an article called prison 717 00:42:16,650 --> 00:42:19,890 without walls, which by the way shows you how lame Gizmodo is. 718 00:42:20,190 --> 00:42:21,690 They don't do their own reporting. They just take 719 00:42:21,690 --> 00:42:24,840 someone else's reporting and Atlantic did some actual work 720 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:25,200 here. 721 00:42:25,530 --> 00:42:26,850 Yeah, it's called the blog. Yeah. 722 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,509 Call them fly. There's another there's another swear word 723 00:42:30,509 --> 00:42:33,809 blogger, damn blogger, it's like the same bigger you damn 724 00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:38,969 blogger. So this is about the whole idea of ankle bracelets 725 00:42:39,029 --> 00:42:41,909 reducing and it's fantastic. When you think about a job we 726 00:42:41,909 --> 00:42:44,039 think about the setup, and then I'm gonna punch it I'm gonna hit 727 00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:46,709 you right in the mouth with some some great details. So of 728 00:42:46,709 --> 00:42:48,809 course, we've got this prison system, which is completely 729 00:42:48,809 --> 00:42:51,989 commercialized. It's, you know, it's great to throw people in 730 00:42:51,989 --> 00:42:56,099 jail, because the jails get money per head. But what 731 00:42:56,099 --> 00:42:59,699 is it and they also get to put people to work, it notes pay, 732 00:42:59,729 --> 00:43:00,869 well, what is slave labor? 733 00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:04,170 Yes, well, what if we could make it even a little bit better? And 734 00:43:04,170 --> 00:43:07,200 instead of having to go through the whole issue of, you know, 735 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,260 taking care of these these prisoners, these poor saps who 736 00:43:10,260 --> 00:43:14,850 are caught smoking? Typically, yeah, so instead of instead, but 737 00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:17,640 that's coming that's coming out of their bottom line. So why 738 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,030 don't we just lock them up in their own home and use these 739 00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:24,330 bracelets for all these all these different crimes, because 740 00:43:24,330 --> 00:43:27,540 this is not just about the scram bracelet. And so in this 741 00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:32,940 article, I find the name of the company by incorporated which is 742 00:43:32,940 --> 00:43:37,680 just funny by itself bi and they actually have the domain bi.com 743 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:43,920 which I can only imagine was a hot ticket to get by.com and you 744 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,930 need to look at this website find company based in Colorado I 745 00:43:48,930 --> 00:43:53,700 might point out these guys are amazing John, they've so they 746 00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:58,200 were incorporated in 1978 in Boulder, Colorado as an 747 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:04,440 engineering and consulting firm. And they make all these amazing 748 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,700 products. I mean, just their their technology and treatment 749 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:13,260 solutions page. Let's see we've got the BI executive track one 750 00:44:13,260 --> 00:44:17,670 we've got the by Home Guard 200 The by voice ID the by Tad the 751 00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:18,990 by total access. 752 00:44:19,170 --> 00:44:21,360 You like a little brighter, that's my favorite looks like a 753 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,010 gun. Oh, yeah. 754 00:44:23,579 --> 00:44:29,159 But look at the Dubai drive by and it's spelled bi drive bi 755 00:44:29,369 --> 00:44:32,249 where you just drive by the slaves home to see if they're 756 00:44:32,249 --> 00:44:35,519 there. You know, it registers just from outside the door. 757 00:44:35,849 --> 00:44:40,169 These guys. They are the company I wish I could invest in them. I 758 00:44:40,169 --> 00:44:43,919 think private invest in it. No, I think it's private. But look 759 00:44:43,919 --> 00:44:49,229 at their partners. The change companies Microsoft moral 760 00:44:49,259 --> 00:44:57,569 record. Rick, moral recognition therapy, Sprint, and then look 761 00:44:57,569 --> 00:45:00,869 at their associations. This is fantastic. The American 762 00:45:00,869 --> 00:45:03,539 Correctional Association American prohibition and parole 763 00:45:03,539 --> 00:45:06,509 Association, National Association of Counties American 764 00:45:06,509 --> 00:45:10,739 jail Association, Federal probation and pretrial Officers 765 00:45:10,739 --> 00:45:13,259 Association, International Community Corrections 766 00:45:13,259 --> 00:45:16,109 Association, National Association of drug court 767 00:45:16,109 --> 00:45:19,409 professionals, National Association of pretrial services 768 00:45:19,409 --> 00:45:23,309 agencies National Association of probation executives National 769 00:45:23,309 --> 00:45:26,129 Sheriffs Association, the Washington association of 770 00:45:26,129 --> 00:45:29,999 sheriffs and police chiefs, the fix is in you're not going to 771 00:45:29,999 --> 00:45:33,269 jail anymore slave you're at home, and you've got to you've 772 00:45:33,269 --> 00:45:36,659 got to buy bracelet on you've got Gitmo jewelry draped from 773 00:45:36,659 --> 00:45:40,919 your wrist and your ankles. Now the only thing I thought is they 774 00:45:40,919 --> 00:45:44,159 do have a resellers page I thought maybe we could become a 775 00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:47,129 qualified buy reseller in our area. We should 776 00:45:48,210 --> 00:45:49,950 see a slight irony there 777 00:45:49,980 --> 00:45:55,530 by reseller program connecting for success this is an awesome 778 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,590 awesome company. But I don't think that Republic 779 00:45:58,620 --> 00:46:01,620 I think they're they're not I tried to there's no evidence. 780 00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:04,800 They're public. They're private. But these are the guys stay that 781 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,960 way because this is there's a scam. There's some sort of 782 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,580 underlying a scam here. And they can't probably reveal MEC if 783 00:46:11,580 --> 00:46:12,960 you're public you gotta tell all 784 00:46:13,050 --> 00:46:15,630 right, well, of course well the scam is is that they've 785 00:46:15,630 --> 00:46:18,330 basically they've got it all there. They're working with all 786 00:46:18,330 --> 00:46:21,540 these associations. The whole idea is the prisons are full 787 00:46:21,540 --> 00:46:24,720 Screw it. We'll just keep it in your home slave. Shut up. Here's 788 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:33,030 a bracelet kink. Done. Done. I love this. I this this is what a 789 00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:35,700 what a gem of a find in Boulder, 790 00:46:35,699 --> 00:46:39,569 Colorado. Give me a 10 on this one. Thank you. But then now 791 00:46:39,569 --> 00:46:40,859 you've depressed everybody. 792 00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:46,140 Well, this does go along with with this new story. 793 00:46:46,170 --> 00:46:48,750 Why is Microsoft the partner so what I'd like to know 794 00:46:51,989 --> 00:46:56,369 do I do I really have to explain. Come on. They're the 795 00:46:56,369 --> 00:46:59,429 technology partner. Of course, they're creating all this stuff. 796 00:46:59,759 --> 00:47:04,019 It's already in your PC. Sorry, it's already in Vista or Windows 797 00:47:04,019 --> 00:47:06,539 seven or whatever it is. And this is why they're doing 798 00:47:06,540 --> 00:47:10,620 it. A Texas man convicted of DWI for the ninth time will be 799 00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:14,220 spending the rest of his life in prison. Last month a jury found 800 00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:17,850 52 year old Bobby Joe Stovall guilty of driving while 801 00:47:17,850 --> 00:47:21,750 intoxicated. A judge has now sentenced him to life in prison. 802 00:47:22,140 --> 00:47:26,820 In July of 2009, STOVL crashed his truck and Round Rock, Texas, 803 00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:30,810 a blood sample showed his blood alcohol level was point three to 804 00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:34,980 four times the legal limit in Texas. Stovall has half a dozen 805 00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:37,050 convictions for other crimes as well. 806 00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:40,019 So you know, but other crimes. Oh, they don't 807 00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:42,480 tell you let me emphasize that what they don't tell you that it 808 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,500 doesn't matter. The whole 809 00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:46,140 point is what's the guy's name again? Stovall? Yeah, 810 00:47:47,099 --> 00:47:51,809 I have a web everything have a webpage on it as well. Let me 811 00:47:51,809 --> 00:47:56,099 see ABC News. They might actually have information. Bobby 812 00:47:56,099 --> 00:48:00,509 Stovall. 54. Same age is Billy Idol was driving his truck in 813 00:48:00,539 --> 00:48:03,359 Round Rock, Texas, early July, he went through several lanes of 814 00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:07,649 traffic flow of abala. See if the other one is conducted nine 815 00:48:07,649 --> 00:48:10,889 times. The guy does not deserve to be on the road, obviously. 816 00:48:11,130 --> 00:48:12,180 No, he's a drunk. Yeah. 817 00:48:12,209 --> 00:48:18,269 But instead of it, yeah, does it throw him in jail for life. So 818 00:48:18,269 --> 00:48:20,579 instead of doing that, which is a pain in the ass, you got to 819 00:48:20,579 --> 00:48:23,399 take care of this guy, you got to feed him. You know, it's 820 00:48:23,399 --> 00:48:27,779 better to have the slave feeding himself in his own house, and 821 00:48:27,779 --> 00:48:30,839 you can make him work. You can make him do all kinds of work. 822 00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:33,329 Call Centers. 823 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,539 reliq envelopes. Yeah, it 824 00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:40,200 can do all kinds of stuff in the comfort of his own home. And if 825 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:45,150 he drinks or weed or sex lines, anything if he drinks or 826 00:48:45,150 --> 00:48:47,880 anything like that, you know, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. So 827 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,880 this by incorporated these guys. I mean, they're going to clean 828 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,160 house if they aren't already, because it's an annuity. It's 829 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,800 not just, you know, the bracelet, it's the service. I'm 830 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,400 sure Microsoft is providing the service. You know, the the back 831 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:05,010 end the cloud, you're connected to the clouds leave. It's just 832 00:49:05,579 --> 00:49:08,999 this is why, you know, what's the name of the guy who had that 833 00:49:09,029 --> 00:49:12,719 conspiracy show and he was a governor of Minnesota for some 834 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,679 reason Ventura, Jesse Ventura. Just even sure it was on some of 835 00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:19,979 the other day. I think we've played the clip. He actually 836 00:49:19,979 --> 00:49:23,099 lives in Mexico now because he thinks it's a safer, more 837 00:49:23,099 --> 00:49:24,779 freedom loving place. 838 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,290 He's probably right. That's pathetic. Well, there's 839 00:49:28,290 --> 00:49:28,890 administrative 840 00:49:28,890 --> 00:49:31,110 understand what the how the public continues to put up with 841 00:49:31,110 --> 00:49:33,570 it. Well, there's some images character, here's got issues, 842 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,150 this should put him into some sort of a treatment program. 843 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:36,450 There's 844 00:49:36,449 --> 00:49:39,869 some there's some Ministry of Truth about Mexico, which I 845 00:49:39,869 --> 00:49:45,569 found to be very interesting. Associated Press and we know 846 00:49:45,569 --> 00:49:50,789 how, at least I think that we can safely say that they are 847 00:49:50,789 --> 00:49:54,299 often associated with information coming from the 848 00:49:54,299 --> 00:49:57,599 Central Intelligence Agency. Listen to this report, right, 849 00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:01,769 John, and you stop me when you When and this is from AP right? 850 00:50:02,669 --> 00:50:06,119 Mexico City and anonymous 20 Something bloggers giving 851 00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:08,999 Mexicans what they can get elsewhere an inside view of 852 00:50:08,999 --> 00:50:12,839 their country's raging drug war, operating from behind a thick 853 00:50:12,839 --> 00:50:16,679 curtain of computer security. You want to stop me yet? 854 00:50:17,730 --> 00:50:19,110 Keep going log Dell 855 00:50:19,110 --> 00:50:22,590 Narco in less than six months has become Mexico's go to 856 00:50:22,590 --> 00:50:25,350 internet site at the time when mainstream media are feeling 857 00:50:25,350 --> 00:50:28,170 pressure and threats to stay away from the story. I'm telling 858 00:50:28,170 --> 00:50:31,710 you this thing is a complete CIA website. Many postings including 859 00:50:31,710 --> 00:50:34,470 warnings and a beheading appear to come directly from drug 860 00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:37,800 traffickers appear. Others depict crime scenes accessible 861 00:50:37,830 --> 00:50:42,360 only to military or police. The mysterious blogger hides his 862 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:47,070 identity behind an elaborate cyber screen. The Associated 863 00:50:47,070 --> 00:50:50,130 Press wrote to the blogs email address hosted on Google I might 864 00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:53,490 point out and the blogger called back from a disguised phone 865 00:50:53,490 --> 00:50:56,340 number I mean this is like you can just see the guys of the 866 00:50:56,340 --> 00:50:57,630 agency writing this up 867 00:50:57,660 --> 00:51:00,060 well that's they've already they've already field tested 868 00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:03,030 with with the WikiLeaks this type of thing. 869 00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:06,600 Yeah, he said he's a student in northern Mexico majoring in 870 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,920 computer security. There we go. This year cyber threat mean that 871 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,070 he launched the blog in March as a quote hobby, but it has now 872 00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:17,580 grown to hundreds of postings a day and 3 million hits a week. 873 00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:21,180 And so it goes on and on with all of this really elaborate 874 00:51:21,210 --> 00:51:28,440 language and the very end here is kind of funny. He says 875 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,530 mainstream media was stealing his content so he doesn't feel 876 00:51:31,530 --> 00:51:34,500 bad about stealing. There's until the national millennial 877 00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:37,590 television network aired the prison warden video and credited 878 00:51:37,590 --> 00:51:42,330 Blog del Norco its daily hits went up 30%. So apparently they 879 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,180 know they know exactly what's going on with his blog, which, 880 00:51:45,690 --> 00:51:52,140 if you do a who is on El blog, del narco.com. It's registered 881 00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:56,730 by protected Domain Services in Denver, Colorado. 882 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,900 Here Listen, well, that's that's just up front. Yeah. Okay, 883 00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:04,770 here's here. I've got it open. And so I did I looked at 884 00:52:04,769 --> 00:52:07,289 it. She's a trans. Do you know, do you see the Translate button? 885 00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:10,289 I hit the Translate button, the translation? This is the 886 00:52:10,289 --> 00:52:13,559 giveaway to me that Something's fishy. The translation is 887 00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:14,309 perfect. I 888 00:52:14,310 --> 00:52:16,170 know. It's beautiful, isn't it? Let 889 00:52:16,170 --> 00:52:18,960 me read the headline of the first posting the Mexican army 890 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,440 said that soldiers are not murderers. And then I read it. 891 00:52:22,530 --> 00:52:25,770 The commander of the fourth Military Region, Guillermo 892 00:52:25,770 --> 00:52:29,850 Serrano. Serrano, said Saturday that Mexican army soldiers are 893 00:52:29,850 --> 00:52:32,370 not murderers and only respond to the aggregate aggressions of 894 00:52:32,370 --> 00:52:35,100 organized crime. This is like it was written in English 895 00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:37,470 translated, the Spanish would translate back 896 00:52:37,469 --> 00:52:39,809 perfectly and just put the button there just to make it 897 00:52:39,809 --> 00:52:45,089 look good. It's fantastic. This is your right. Eye when I saw 898 00:52:45,089 --> 00:52:48,419 this, I'm like, oh, Ministry of Truth. Completely. 899 00:52:49,380 --> 00:52:51,900 Ya know, the translation is absolutely, you know, most of 900 00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:54,870 the time, there's some screw in experience. This is like perfect 901 00:52:55,230 --> 00:52:59,880 translation. Register, guys, you know, try to make it a little 902 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,050 funkier. Yeah, I 903 00:53:01,050 --> 00:53:05,520 mean, mess it up, all over the public's eyes. So when you see 904 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,730 that AP press release, essentially, with all these like 905 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,470 shrouded in a veil of secrecy, a secret phone number, a secret 906 00:53:13,470 --> 00:53:16,380 email address the things hosted on Google, they can track who 907 00:53:16,380 --> 00:53:19,980 this guy is no problem. It's like Google's in on it. They're 908 00:53:19,980 --> 00:53:21,030 hosting it for him. 909 00:53:21,060 --> 00:53:23,250 Well, you know, they have the United in Mexico. That was for 910 00:53:23,250 --> 00:53:26,100 years now. Journalists couldn't do anything. If they mentioned a 911 00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:30,060 guy. As a drug cartel. You the daddy did shoot him. Yeah, this 912 00:53:30,060 --> 00:53:34,320 is a workaround to get the information out to both 913 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,620 Americans and Mexicans without having to worry about something 914 00:53:37,620 --> 00:53:39,060 you know that he's not going to stop. 915 00:53:39,449 --> 00:53:42,539 So this comes right up this guy. And it comes right along with 916 00:53:42,539 --> 00:53:43,769 the following story. 917 00:53:45,989 --> 00:53:48,149 And this is sitting in Monterrey for dead. 918 00:53:49,110 --> 00:53:52,770 This is from Gallup, which I you know, who the hell knows by 919 00:53:52,770 --> 00:53:58,230 polls? In US confidence in newspapers and TV news remains a 920 00:53:58,230 --> 00:54:02,970 rarity. So I think if I look at this, and this poll, which you 921 00:54:02,970 --> 00:54:06,210 know, I guess it was really important to do this poll and 922 00:54:06,210 --> 00:54:09,720 this trend they've been tracking and since 1990. People don't and 923 00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:13,830 which I think is a lie, an outright lie. People are saying 924 00:54:13,830 --> 00:54:17,910 they don't believe the news, the mainstream news. I don't buy 925 00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:21,900 that for a second. I think people totally buy it. I believe 926 00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:24,450 that that what's going to happen is we're gonna get a whole bunch 927 00:54:24,450 --> 00:54:29,790 of these del Narco sites, their proxy sites, which Yeah, which 928 00:54:29,790 --> 00:54:33,360 is going to look like you know, some anonymous blogger behind 929 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,780 the shield, you know, a screen of secrecy. But this is going to 930 00:54:36,780 --> 00:54:39,030 be the new information systems they're going to tell you 931 00:54:39,060 --> 00:54:42,510 network news no good it's an it's no good. No one believes in 932 00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:44,820 it. Yeah, you shouldn't be believing in this and then 933 00:54:44,820 --> 00:54:46,800 they're going to start propagating all these blogs 934 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,470 which will be there in the new version of, of the truth. 935 00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:55,080 Yeah, and these things can be just complete, you know, fronts, 936 00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:57,870 which can be that's what they're good at what they are, they are 937 00:54:57,870 --> 00:55:02,190 that's what this is. But again it's just they're just testing 938 00:55:02,190 --> 00:55:02,790 these things. 939 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,609 Yeah. Oh yeah, it's all beta right now but it'll get there. 940 00:55:05,969 --> 00:55:06,689 It'll get there 941 00:55:08,429 --> 00:55:11,699 these photos come from here's a photo on the second page of this 942 00:55:11,699 --> 00:55:18,569 blog was 66 comments that is I'd never heard of this I've never 943 00:55:18,569 --> 00:55:22,559 heard of this thing in the hangar the photos official from 944 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:24,659 somewhere where do you get where did the guy get the photo? 945 00:55:25,170 --> 00:55:28,110 Oh, it's only for military only military and police can get 946 00:55:28,110 --> 00:55:30,510 these photos that's what the that's what the article says. So 947 00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:34,350 how does he get them from the military and police Of course, I 948 00:55:34,350 --> 00:55:38,460 handed it to him they're writing it we got to be on the lookout 949 00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:43,740 we need a busted blogsite or something so we can call this 950 00:55:43,770 --> 00:55:47,400 type of crap out when it happens because people will start 951 00:55:47,580 --> 00:55:51,510 believing in this shit. Amazing though, right? 952 00:55:52,350 --> 00:55:56,790 Yeah, good catch. Meanwhile, there's a video here of some 953 00:55:56,820 --> 00:55:58,530 woman doing something weird. 954 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,400 I'm anyway in the videos anymore. I bet he has pre rolls. 955 00:56:03,570 --> 00:56:04,410 Mostly yes. 956 00:56:05,550 --> 00:56:10,140 Hey, we might as well make some money on it as well. Get some 957 00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:14,850 Google ads in there is good is really good. It's gonna rock. 958 00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:21,299 Ah, so So we've talked for an hour already? Almost. Yeah. 959 00:56:23,129 --> 00:56:27,299 Almost we should go into our knighthood den. Compliment 960 00:56:27,959 --> 00:56:28,619 moment. 961 00:56:29,249 --> 00:56:33,839 Okay, I'm down with them to bring up the elves. So as much 962 00:56:33,839 --> 00:56:34,199 heat 963 00:56:35,099 --> 00:56:39,329 as we explained. Last week explain every week this show is 964 00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:42,359 listener supported and we need listener support to continue to 965 00:56:42,359 --> 00:56:47,909 do the show. We have bills to pay unfortunately. And so anyone 966 00:56:47,909 --> 00:56:52,709 who wants to donate can go to dvorak.org/n A and take on one 967 00:56:52,709 --> 00:56:58,109 of the programs we have including the $33.33 cent 968 00:56:58,649 --> 00:57:01,259 boarding pass to the spaceship that the atom it's the 969 00:57:01,259 --> 00:57:05,279 mothership. Not a spaceship. It's the mothership. Some 970 00:57:05,309 --> 00:57:07,139 mother of a ship is coming. Oh, hold 971 00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:14,880 on a second John. I almost forgot I'm so sorry. We have to 972 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,460 have our NPR telephones ringing Yeah, 973 00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:19,830 we need Roy we're gonna have a ringing going on the background 974 00:57:19,830 --> 00:57:27,600 from now on. But yeah, Mike Keaton my my Yamaha keyboard has 975 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:28,620 better ringtones than 976 00:57:28,650 --> 00:57:32,310 well oh, now you say that right. But that is not true. Because I 977 00:57:32,310 --> 00:57:39,180 was sent. Here it is. The the official the universal telephone 978 00:57:39,210 --> 00:57:44,160 ring. This is Hollywood lost them found. This is this is the 979 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,430 quintessential actually it's only this one. I'm going to the 980 00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:49,770 one you're hearing right now. This is the 981 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,180 the telephone that was good to use on PBS. This is 982 00:57:54,179 --> 00:57:56,969 the one that has been used, which actually was produced the 983 00:57:56,969 --> 00:58:01,949 Universal Studios in the 70s for The Rockford Files, which is the 984 00:58:01,949 --> 00:58:04,709 opening of The Rockford Files television show and the 985 00:58:04,739 --> 00:58:07,919 answering machine would pick up this is the ring two this is the 986 00:58:07,919 --> 00:58:09,089 one that they always use. 987 00:58:13,020 --> 00:58:16,320 Right? Yeah, that's a good one ring that ring I like Okay, so 988 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,620 we'll keep that one. Ringing in the background as we're talking 989 00:58:19,620 --> 00:58:22,260 about, you know, getting some donation contributions 990 00:58:22,290 --> 00:58:25,440 knighthoods and the rest of it divorce.org/and Anyone to thanks 991 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,410 to people who've donated for the last show, including Randy 992 00:58:28,410 --> 00:58:32,580 Asher, of course, who's basically selling T shirts and 993 00:58:32,580 --> 00:58:37,920 giving us a piece of it and no agenda to lead artists. Yes, no 994 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:43,350 agenda stuff.com. And he did the art for last week show as a 995 00:58:43,350 --> 00:58:48,960 matter of fact, Barbara Starr in Cleveland, Ohio $60. And she has 996 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:54,960 a message which we needed to to bring up and let me just jump to 997 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,040 that on the email. Hi, 998 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,700 John. I sent a check to the PIO box and put a note asking to 999 00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:03,450 renew my yearly subscription. And for more no agenda karma 1000 00:59:03,450 --> 00:59:07,740 last time I sent a check to the local Girl Scout Council. They 1001 00:59:07,740 --> 00:59:12,630 change their mind and did not close camp Crowl halacha but 1002 00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:15,660 kept it partially open. They're going to make a final decision 1003 00:59:15,660 --> 00:59:18,330 on the fate of our beloved camp soon. So please ask any 1004 00:59:18,330 --> 00:59:22,200 listeners that have camped there to contact friends of Cromwell 1005 00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:27,300 he laka.org Please mention our website because last time you 1006 00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:30,870 mentioned us we got some former campers to join us. Okay. So I 1007 00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:32,040 think we've done that. 1008 00:59:33,570 --> 00:59:36,150 Maybe put a link in the show notes for the people that like 1009 00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:39,540 the camp. Yeah, 1010 00:59:39,540 --> 00:59:42,210 I'll put a link in the show notes. Let me do that right now. 1011 00:59:42,210 --> 00:59:45,510 Lest I forget. It's a tough one that they could have had a 1012 00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:47,850 little snappier name than friends problem. 1013 00:59:49,260 --> 00:59:53,610 Just a series of letters better than that. It's really not a 1014 00:59:53,610 --> 00:59:58,920 very handy one of the one in the middle. Michael Warner Vestal 1015 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:04,710 New York 62 ollars Derek a bully in North Sydney, New South 1016 01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:09,210 Wales. 5510 Double nickels on the dime. Maxwell Roberts double 1017 01:00:09,210 --> 01:00:13,290 nickels on the dime Crown Point Indiana and right it's same 1018 01:00:13,290 --> 01:00:19,500 list. 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Do it Wednesday 1062 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:01,110 night. 1063 01:03:02,219 --> 01:03:05,129 We do have to I don't know. I guess we forgot this. John. 1064 01:03:05,129 --> 01:03:11,189 Good. Notice notice Granada's on the previous show. He asked in I 1065 01:03:11,189 --> 01:03:13,919 think we I guess we did thank him for his support of the show. 1066 01:03:14,369 --> 01:03:19,229 We neglected to mention his site device knit.com. That's it as a 1067 01:03:19,229 --> 01:03:23,549 knitting device can I t.com is a place where it helps people 1068 01:03:23,549 --> 01:03:26,009 share ways of getting the most out of their electronics and 1069 01:03:26,009 --> 01:03:29,549 gadgets. They have a couple of ways to listen to the no agenda 1070 01:03:29,549 --> 01:03:33,689 show on there as well in the car. With like transmitters and 1071 01:03:33,689 --> 01:03:37,559 stuff. It's a good little geeky gadget site. So we appreciate 1072 01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:43,079 John supported the show. And perhaps I've got mine out 1073 01:03:43,799 --> 01:03:44,159 here. 1074 01:03:45,210 --> 01:03:50,220 Cool. Yes. It's so large once again. goldwind. Okay, this is 1075 01:03:50,250 --> 01:03:58,980 on behalf of John Charles Jordan, who has decided to give 1076 01:03:58,980 --> 01:04:02,790 his knighthood today to his wife, Carol. So Carol, please 1077 01:04:02,790 --> 01:04:11,520 step forward. She's suave isn't she's very nice, Carol. Thanks 1078 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,300 to Charles's complete donations in support of the no agenda show 1079 01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:20,730 in the amount of at least $1,000 We hear by night the Dane 1080 01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:27,990 Carroll Jordan. Dane of the no agenda roundtable. Please join 1081 01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:32,790 us here at the roundtable for some hustlers and Petrus. That's 1082 01:04:32,790 --> 01:04:37,680 our new one. We've got we've got hookers and blow and hustlers 1083 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,390 and Petrus which is Asian 1084 01:04:39,389 --> 01:04:42,839 Petrus, which is outstanding. According to Eric Paul couture 1085 01:04:42,839 --> 01:04:44,909 was not no no that was for last week. 1086 01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:47,430 I know. That's why I didn't do him. 1087 01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:55,620 Stocks symbol BIA see? What for buys according to maybe it's a 1088 01:04:55,620 --> 01:05:00,210 public company and NASDAQ Good buy is a public company BAC is 1089 01:05:00,210 --> 01:05:01,680 the symbol. Let's check it out. 1090 01:05:01,709 --> 01:05:04,079 Really? How's it doing? Is it on the upswing? 1091 01:05:04,530 --> 01:05:10,170 Well, not, if not, after a BAC of five org.org/na 1092 01:05:10,169 --> 01:05:13,679 To support this show or channel dvorak.com/na. And of course, 1093 01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:18,119 you can find the link to the support page at no agenda 1094 01:05:18,119 --> 01:05:20,909 show.com where you can also find all the shownotes hundreds of 1095 01:05:20,909 --> 01:05:25,079 links in every single program, we have a stream that's running, 1096 01:05:25,469 --> 01:05:29,549 we've got a new show coming on to the stream as well John, that 1097 01:05:30,419 --> 01:05:33,689 our our friend Marcus couch will be producing called the 1098 01:05:33,689 --> 01:05:37,889 earthquake machine, which will be a hard rockin show. Looking 1099 01:05:37,889 --> 01:05:40,379 forward to that popping up on the stream pretty soon. 1100 01:05:41,340 --> 01:05:47,100 BAC is not listed under Ed under anything. That's not the symbol. 1101 01:05:48,270 --> 01:05:50,880 Generally speaking, most of these companies, if they're 1102 01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:54,270 publicly listed will have this symbol in their in their website 1103 01:05:54,270 --> 01:05:56,790 and having their website investor relations. They don't 1104 01:05:56,790 --> 01:05:58,260 have the tab investors. They 1105 01:05:58,260 --> 01:06:02,880 don't have any of that. So I doubt it could be my who knows. 1106 01:06:04,140 --> 01:06:06,360 I have an endo show clip. John just wanted to clear it with 1107 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,300 you. Maybe we should end a little bit early now that we're 1108 01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:09,900 ending now. 1109 01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:11,400 But how long is this clip? 1110 01:06:11,429 --> 01:06:16,379 It's 13 minutes and maybe if I just play 30 seconds of the 1111 01:06:16,379 --> 01:06:19,199 beginning of it. It's a David Icke, you will tell me do you 1112 01:06:19,199 --> 01:06:19,949 think we should play it? 1113 01:06:25,230 --> 01:06:29,040 Well, 20 years ago now that I began, 1114 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:33,810 this, by the way is Trafalgar Square in Gitmo nation east, the 1115 01:06:33,810 --> 01:06:37,290 seventh of August. So this is a brand new clip to understand 1116 01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:43,560 not just the scale of pedophilia and child abuse and child 1117 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:52,110 abduction and all the rest of it. But the people and level 1118 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:57,360 known as the elite level of our society, which is driving it. 1119 01:07:00,270 --> 01:07:08,220 So he calls out President Bush, former Prime Minister's it's an 1120 01:07:08,220 --> 01:07:13,290 amazing piece about the pedo bear amongst the elites. And I 1121 01:07:13,290 --> 01:07:15,240 want to ask you, if you thought was okay, if we played that as 1122 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,870 an end of show clip, I think is too long. Too long, then I'll 1123 01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:20,730 just put it in the show notes. Okay, 1124 01:07:20,849 --> 01:07:22,739 I think you should put a link and let people listen to it if 1125 01:07:22,739 --> 01:07:23,579 they want to. Okay, 1126 01:07:23,699 --> 01:07:28,919 okay, good. It's it's under pedo. Bear, obviously. That's, 1127 01:07:28,949 --> 01:07:33,449 that's our our general name, that's where you can find it. So 1128 01:07:34,289 --> 01:07:37,169 I'd like to give you a little bit more info about the Ted 1129 01:07:37,169 --> 01:07:45,239 Stevens crash. Yeah, some very interesting details. So first of 1130 01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:50,069 all, they have there's a no tam which has been posted, which is 1131 01:07:50,069 --> 01:07:56,039 a notice to Airmen. And it's very interesting. The cause of 1132 01:07:56,039 --> 01:07:58,589 course, you know, you see all these reports and you know, you 1133 01:07:58,589 --> 01:08:03,089 had the the idea you get his like this hill and the mountain 1134 01:08:03,089 --> 01:08:06,239 and they crashed into the mountain. So they have put up a 1135 01:08:06,239 --> 01:08:12,659 25 mile radius, no fly zone from the surface up to 5000 feet, I'm 1136 01:08:12,659 --> 01:08:19,889 sorry, a 20.7 nautical mile radius in dealing him, Alaska, 1137 01:08:20,609 --> 01:08:22,829 and it says effective immediately until further notice 1138 01:08:22,829 --> 01:08:26,639 pursuant to CFR Section Babu temporary flight restrictions 1139 01:08:26,639 --> 01:08:30,599 are in effect for downed aircraft investigation. And then 1140 01:08:30,599 --> 01:08:34,469 they give the coordinates and I've actually I went to Google 1141 01:08:34,469 --> 01:08:39,599 Earth and I put these coordinates in the terrain there 1142 01:08:39,629 --> 01:08:45,089 is two meters above sea level for for 100 miles radius it's 1143 01:08:45,089 --> 01:08:50,969 right on the water right near the bay. And this is where this 1144 01:08:50,969 --> 01:08:53,669 aircraft went down it sure as hell didn't fly into a mountain. 1145 01:08:54,299 --> 01:08:57,209 And if it's not where the aircraft went down, why are they 1146 01:08:57,239 --> 01:09:02,219 why did they put up this no fly zone there? And it's it's very 1147 01:09:02,219 --> 01:09:05,009 very weird and then they had these stories coming out saying 1148 01:09:05,009 --> 01:09:08,999 Well, Ted Stevens plane had a terrain warning system while 1149 01:09:08,999 --> 01:09:10,949 they should not have flown in and well there was nothing to 1150 01:09:10,949 --> 01:09:13,679 fly into if that's where they're if that's where the no fly zone 1151 01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:16,139 is for the downed aircraft. There was nothing to fly 1152 01:09:16,169 --> 01:09:19,439 hundreds of miles before you hit anything above 100 meters 1153 01:09:19,859 --> 01:09:23,609 Yeah. Have you seen the pictures though it is inside of a hill 1154 01:09:24,029 --> 01:09:28,409 it but this is nowhere near where this this no fly zone is 1155 01:09:28,619 --> 01:09:32,759 so you will so what what are you trying to tell us? Well that 1156 01:09:32,759 --> 01:09:34,529 either things fishy we know that 1157 01:09:34,559 --> 01:09:39,479 yes. Okay. So the couple of things one the terrain warning 1158 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:43,019 didn't go off because there was no terrain to fly into. So I 1159 01:09:43,019 --> 01:09:45,659 don't know what I have not seen this picture. Can you Skype me a 1160 01:09:45,659 --> 01:09:46,799 link for this picture? I 1161 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,070 told you so I can't Skype. You think it was played on the Fox? 1162 01:09:50,340 --> 01:09:51,120 They showed though? 1163 01:09:51,149 --> 01:09:54,569 Yeah. Okay. So that's there you go. Ministry of Truth. 1164 01:09:54,719 --> 01:09:56,849 It could have been CNN doesn't make any difference, but they 1165 01:09:56,849 --> 01:09:59,969 showed the plane crash there and it looks like it's classic. 1166 01:09:59,999 --> 01:10:02,459 Little small airplane it was the side of a hill 1167 01:10:03,689 --> 01:10:06,329 Did it have floats on? Could you see if the plane had floated? No 1168 01:10:06,330 --> 01:10:09,180 it did you couldn't see floats and all you could see was the 1169 01:10:09,180 --> 01:10:12,660 top the bottom of the thing was gone and 1170 01:10:13,529 --> 01:10:16,109 could have just been filed footage who knows what it was? 1171 01:10:16,979 --> 01:10:18,149 Well, anyway so, so the 1172 01:10:18,150 --> 01:10:19,680 talent Yeah, I saw what they showed. 1173 01:10:19,709 --> 01:10:24,179 So this aircraft as are all aircraft is outfitted with an E 1174 01:10:24,179 --> 01:10:29,579 L T, emergency locator transmitter, which you cannot 1175 01:10:29,609 --> 01:10:34,109 fly legally without this thing being up to date. In fact, mine 1176 01:10:34,109 --> 01:10:39,509 has to be I have to get a new one because they expire. Before 1177 01:10:39,509 --> 01:10:43,859 I could sell my aircraft. Yeah, more crap. Always something I'm 1178 01:10:43,859 --> 01:10:46,979 telling you. Oh, it's so painful. The paperwork. I mean, 1179 01:10:46,979 --> 01:10:50,279 literally the paperwork to get this done and I got people who 1180 01:10:50,279 --> 01:10:53,789 might want to buy it but the paperwork is just not done yet. 1181 01:10:53,789 --> 01:10:58,589 It's it's horrible. So the ELT didn't go now this ELT, if you 1182 01:10:58,589 --> 01:11:01,739 kick it in the airplane, it'll go off. So when you when you 1183 01:11:01,739 --> 01:11:07,049 when you hit something, this thing is wired to essentially go 1184 01:11:07,049 --> 01:11:10,529 off and send out an emergency beacon. Unless, of course, 1185 01:11:10,529 --> 01:11:13,079 there's some kind of weird radio waves that would disable that. 1186 01:11:13,079 --> 01:11:16,739 But I'm gonna stay away from that. So I took a picture of 1187 01:11:16,739 --> 01:11:20,549 three points on the map and Alaska, I took a picture of this 1188 01:11:20,579 --> 01:11:24,089 no fly zone where there are no hills whatsoever. So if that's 1189 01:11:24,089 --> 01:11:28,349 where the aircraft crash, it's not in a hill. It is like a big 1190 01:11:28,349 --> 01:11:31,109 slope, John, or little slope, or what it looked like to you. 1191 01:11:31,170 --> 01:11:33,990 It was a mild slope. It wasn't like the side of a mountain, it 1192 01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:40,980 was looked like a small hill is like the Albany Hill. And in the 1193 01:11:40,980 --> 01:11:45,300 Berkeley area, it's a small hill about maybe 500 feet high, I'm 1194 01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:48,570 guessing, because you couldn't see too far down. But it was a 1195 01:11:48,570 --> 01:11:51,750 mild slope. It wasn't like a you know, it wasn't right. So they 1196 01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:53,520 did not it was by the way grassy. 1197 01:11:53,820 --> 01:11:57,840 So if it's 500 feet, they didn't fly into it, they crashed into 1198 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,530 it, because you're not flying at 500 feet. Skies, of course, you 1199 01:12:01,530 --> 01:12:07,320 know, anyway. So then I plotted the HAARP facility, which you 1200 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,140 can see on Google Earth, I mean, this is just a huge array of 1201 01:12:10,140 --> 01:12:14,340 antennas. And here, and here's what was interesting. Then I 1202 01:12:14,340 --> 01:12:24,450 plotted the site of the crash of Terry, the pilots, sons, C 17. 1203 01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:30,300 If you draw a line from the HAARP facility, to Dillingham 1204 01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:35,190 Alaska, right in the middle on the very same line, is where the 1205 01:12:35,190 --> 01:12:36,510 C 17 went down. 1206 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,409 So you've been spending a lot of time, Google Earth 1207 01:12:43,410 --> 01:12:46,860 well, because you know, you you berated me so so much, I'm like, 1208 01:12:46,890 --> 01:12:49,650 Wow, man, you know, I'm so confident that this has 1209 01:12:49,650 --> 01:12:53,190 something to do with HAARP. There's just too much evidence 1210 01:12:53,220 --> 01:12:57,270 or seemingly too much evidence pointing towards it. That when 1211 01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:59,520 you look at this picture, you're like, wow, that you know, 1212 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:04,410 coincidence? Yeah, maybe? Maybe not. Oh, I got a picture of the 1213 01:13:04,410 --> 01:13:07,350 plane crash here. Mr. Oil. Just Skyped it to me, let me take a 1214 01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:12,570 look. Let's see what this hill looks like. Right? Did the hill 1215 01:13:12,570 --> 01:13:13,800 is in the distance? 1216 01:13:15,060 --> 01:13:17,460 Let me see that picture. I'll say the same thing I saw. Yeah. 1217 01:13:17,460 --> 01:13:17,700 Hold 1218 01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:23,730 on. Yeah. Bring up the Skype here. I'm also going to throw 1219 01:13:23,730 --> 01:13:28,380 this into the chat rooms of people can play along at home. 1220 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,500 He had to Hill his way in the distance. This is just a slope. 1221 01:13:31,500 --> 01:13:33,990 Yeah, this looks like the place where it happened. So they went 1222 01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:35,610 down. They didn't crash. This is 1223 01:13:35,609 --> 01:13:41,189 nothing like the shot I saw. This is this not even? That 1224 01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:43,739 little blump is must be where the plane is right? Yeah, with a 1225 01:13:43,739 --> 01:13:47,039 smile. They had a close up of the plane. It's an orange red 1226 01:13:47,039 --> 01:13:50,039 colored thing, which you might want to check out if that's the 1227 01:13:50,039 --> 01:13:53,669 case. And it was a but that's like the Yeah, that's probably 1228 01:13:53,669 --> 01:13:56,759 the hill. Yeah, that's it in the background. Yeah. So that's 1229 01:13:56,999 --> 01:13:58,769 crappy picture, that picture is useless. 1230 01:13:59,609 --> 01:14:04,829 Anyway, so I found the coordinates of those three a 1231 01:14:04,829 --> 01:14:07,319 three way points rather rather interesting. 1232 01:14:07,620 --> 01:14:10,920 And we did get an email from a Alaskan 1233 01:14:10,979 --> 01:14:14,849 who said this guy was an amazing pilot. There's no frickin way 1234 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:19,200 and he also talked about Stevens being you know, a target and 1235 01:14:19,230 --> 01:14:22,860 apparently the Sarah Palin group and Stevens group are out to get 1236 01:14:22,860 --> 01:14:27,630 each other. And for some reason, I don't know why. And it was an 1237 01:14:27,630 --> 01:14:30,720 interesting little email it kind of he was totally convinced that 1238 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:31,410 it was a hit. 1239 01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:35,670 So whether it was a hit by sabotage, whether it was a hit 1240 01:14:35,670 --> 01:14:38,940 by HAARP, which I'm pretty convinced that was you know, 1241 01:14:38,940 --> 01:14:41,640 there's just too much going on with the seas the sun sea 17 1242 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,810 etc. Regardless, it's old fashioned, because there's a new 1243 01:14:45,810 --> 01:14:51,120 way for to to the head. And this just took place. Colin birch. 1244 01:14:52,410 --> 01:14:56,610 Let me guess. Okay. Oh, by the way, I would be I would think 1245 01:14:56,610 --> 01:14:59,970 twice about that hot tub thing you're thinking about it 1246 01:15:00,930 --> 01:15:07,380 Well listen to this the new way and this is from Australia is 1247 01:15:07,380 --> 01:15:08,460 death by hooker. 1248 01:15:10,380 --> 01:15:12,600 Well, at least are getting created. Here it 1249 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:17,610 is Colin Birch 44 hanged himself from a tree. days after he lost 1250 01:15:17,610 --> 01:15:21,000 his job as an assistant vice president at Deutsche Bank in 1251 01:15:21,030 --> 01:15:25,770 London. The women Marie Laurel and Alex Sterling, both 35 1252 01:15:25,770 --> 01:15:28,560 fighter was playing a kinky sex game and wearing a safety 1253 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:32,040 harness. They hurled abuse at him telling him he deserved to 1254 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,590 die while he stood on a wooden step with a noose around his 1255 01:15:34,590 --> 01:15:37,890 neck. The girls believes this is from the police report. The 1256 01:15:37,890 --> 01:15:40,890 girls believe they were used to help kill him without realizing 1257 01:15:40,890 --> 01:15:45,120 what they were doing. It was death by hooker. Miss Lauren and 1258 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,510 Mr. Lee from Katie's lovely escort agency said that Mr. 1259 01:15:48,510 --> 01:15:53,520 Burch almost said that Mr. Bucha told them to meet them at a wood 1260 01:15:53,550 --> 01:15:57,540 in Dartford Heath in southeast England on July 30 and pose as x 1261 01:15:57,540 --> 01:16:02,220 as his executioners. The woman told police they left him only 1262 01:16:02,220 --> 01:16:05,010 for a moment and that during that time he had killed himself 1263 01:16:07,740 --> 01:16:12,720 Yeah, I'm saying you know suicide let's not order hookers. 1264 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:15,750 This is not good. 1265 01:16:16,710 --> 01:16:21,690 So I have this Skyped you for the from the plane crash. 1266 01:16:22,290 --> 01:16:24,180 Yeah, I'm looking at it right now it's loading. 1267 01:16:24,990 --> 01:16:28,050 And you can see it's just the side of a hill. But if you look 1268 01:16:28,050 --> 01:16:30,510 in the background, this is not that flat. It is not as flat as 1269 01:16:30,510 --> 01:16:33,300 you say. But what was he doing there is still another issue. 1270 01:16:33,660 --> 01:16:34,770 This thing is fishy. 1271 01:16:35,970 --> 01:16:40,410 Yeah, this is not at all the same picture. It's you can't 1272 01:16:40,410 --> 01:16:44,880 quite read out the the tail number can you see what it says? 1273 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:49,980 455 I can't read the tail number. And you can't see a this 1274 01:16:49,980 --> 01:16:51,780 may not even be the plane man psyching 1275 01:16:51,779 --> 01:16:58,379 in 455 something Yeah, I need it bushes right obscuring it for 1276 01:16:58,379 --> 01:16:59,729 someone you know, I guess. Yeah, of 1277 01:16:59,730 --> 01:17:00,960 course, you know, weed. So 1278 01:17:01,650 --> 01:17:04,800 does anyone get this photoshopped? But whatever the 1279 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,640 case is a fishy deal and we're gonna leave it leave it at that. 1280 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,630 But the hooker thing? Yeah, that could be a problem for you he's 1281 01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:17,100 in the kinky sex. Yeah, oh, no, do not get killed but then 1282 01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:20,100 you're you leave a legacy of being some sort of a weirdo. So 1283 01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:24,030 let me just get somebody just to shoot i The after this. 1284 01:17:24,030 --> 01:17:27,480 Wednesday's daily source code with Bobby Eaton mysteriously 1285 01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:31,260 have pulled the lid over the hot tub and killed myself or have 1286 01:17:31,260 --> 01:17:35,580 hung myself. And she just looked away for a moment and she and 1287 01:17:35,580 --> 01:17:39,690 Mickey were playing Scrabble or Words with Friends. I did not 1288 01:17:39,690 --> 01:17:44,100 kill myself. Okay, just so you know, I'm saying it now. Damn. 1289 01:17:44,910 --> 01:17:46,200 There are other ways to get you. 1290 01:17:47,010 --> 01:17:50,520 This. This is creative, though. You gotta hand it to him. It's 1291 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:51,030 creative. 1292 01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:54,210 It's was better than than the two shots. It's creative. 1293 01:17:54,390 --> 01:18:03,270 All right. This one has to go now all the ball. Planes Okay, 1294 01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:08,280 two stories. Two amazing Diddy's that outside of the runaway 1295 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:13,380 subway in, in in London, which was funny. You heard about that 1296 01:18:13,380 --> 01:18:13,920 the subway? 1297 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,380 Yeah, the subway running away. Yeah, in fact, I'm starting to 1298 01:18:16,380 --> 01:18:19,830 notice a trends that there's actually people taking sides. 1299 01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:23,760 I'm thinking the New York Times is now is now out on the side of 1300 01:18:24,030 --> 01:18:25,620 planes. Well, 1301 01:18:25,650 --> 01:18:28,170 yeah. And actually, there's some more evidence that might 1302 01:18:28,170 --> 01:18:32,580 corroborate that. But the most interesting level, there's two 1303 01:18:32,580 --> 01:18:41,580 stories about planes bad. And so Peggy Noonan, not a fan of Ms. 1304 01:18:41,580 --> 01:18:47,070 Noonan's writing, she writes his whole essay, or op ed in the 1305 01:18:47,070 --> 01:18:51,750 Wall Street Journal, about you know, it's basically it's a 1306 01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:55,200 setup for the video on the page. And I want to play the video on 1307 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:59,670 the page, because this shows you it's it's it's absolutely 1308 01:18:59,670 --> 01:19:04,710 amazing how the story was planted to show you how bad 1309 01:19:04,710 --> 01:19:08,400 plane travel is. We got off on a little little track here a 1310 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,670 sidetrack of the guy's a hero and quit your job and all that. 1311 01:19:11,700 --> 01:19:14,280 So the Wall Street Journal, which of course is a part of the 1312 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:18,360 Murdoch Empire, and we believe is probably also run by 1313 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,570 Democrats. They really bring it back with their Wall Street 1314 01:19:21,570 --> 01:19:27,330 journal.com report. This will slay you, John, when you opinion 1315 01:19:27,330 --> 01:19:32,010 journal, Wall Street Journal, mid stock, Jesus Christ the one 1316 01:19:32,010 --> 01:19:34,920 thing I didn't think because I checked it, and it didn't have a 1317 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,610 pre roll. That's one thing I didn't have a clip of and it has 1318 01:19:38,610 --> 01:19:41,010 a pre roll. I'm sorry. It's only IBM roll 1319 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,910 together. Well, these were consistent. Yeah. IBM 1320 01:19:44,910 --> 01:19:49,380 slash engines story this week about the folk hero Stephen 1321 01:19:49,380 --> 01:19:53,640 Slater, the the flight attendant with Jet Blue who made headlines 1322 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,580 and here to talk about it are my editorial board colleagues, 1323 01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:57,060 Jason, 1324 01:19:57,359 --> 01:20:00,509 editorial board colleagues, that means yes, you That's right. 1325 01:20:00,509 --> 01:20:02,789 Yeah. These are the guys who were paid to say whatever is the 1326 01:20:02,789 --> 01:20:03,359 message 1327 01:20:03,390 --> 01:20:06,450 O'Reilly and Matt Kaminsky, thanks for joining us. Okay, so 1328 01:20:06,630 --> 01:20:09,510 the news from the news side of the wall street journal this 1329 01:20:09,510 --> 01:20:13,170 week is that Mr. Slater is looking like less and less of a 1330 01:20:13,170 --> 01:20:17,520 hero. People who were on the flight from Pittsburgh to New 1331 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,700 York earlier this week saying he was abusive, he may have had 1332 01:20:20,700 --> 01:20:24,420 that cut on his head. When he got on the flight. He was 1333 01:20:24,420 --> 01:20:29,400 saying, let me get the quote error saying, I have to, I need 1334 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,520 to take care of myself first honey, when someone asked him 1335 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,800 for assistance with some coffee that it spilled, by 1336 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,350 the way, another gay reference there, they keep pulling that 1337 01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:38,610 out the honey thing. 1338 01:20:39,899 --> 01:20:44,099 But so we're seeing a picture here emerging of a guy. I 1339 01:20:44,099 --> 01:20:46,319 shouldn't say there's a question whether this woman who? 1340 01:20:48,899 --> 01:20:50,339 You hear it, you hear the setup, 1341 01:20:50,819 --> 01:20:53,909 he claims harassed him even exists, but 1342 01:20:55,229 --> 01:20:57,869 they're saying that the woman didn't even exist is what 1343 01:20:57,869 --> 01:21:00,599 they're saying now that you didn't even exist, there was no 1344 01:21:00,599 --> 01:21:01,679 woman with baggage. 1345 01:21:02,430 --> 01:21:06,420 Whether or not His story is true. Jason, you never really 1346 01:21:06,420 --> 01:21:08,520 bought into the idea that this guy was the hero? 1347 01:21:08,670 --> 01:21:11,730 Not Not at all. I mean, you have to keep in mind this start as a 1348 01:21:11,730 --> 01:21:15,570 baggage dispute. A woman apparently bought two bags on 1349 01:21:15,570 --> 01:21:18,270 board was trying to put them in the overhead when this dispute 1350 01:21:18,270 --> 01:21:24,450 broke out. And Slater is a self described bag Nazi. Now, 1351 01:21:25,950 --> 01:21:28,680 I mean, can it get much better, but calling someone on the plane 1352 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:29,370 and Nazi 1353 01:21:31,290 --> 01:21:33,210 John is getting it's getting good, okay. 1354 01:21:33,870 --> 01:21:36,810 It's just amazing and amazing to me that the storyline is meant 1355 01:21:36,810 --> 01:21:40,080 to sympathize with the airline employee flights have gotten 1356 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,540 more expensive in recent years, they want you at the airport 1357 01:21:42,540 --> 01:21:45,480 three hours ahead of time for a one hour flight, which is often 1358 01:21:45,540 --> 01:21:49,200 you know, delayed if not canceled, where you have little 1359 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,900 recourse plates are more expensive and they're serving 1360 01:21:51,900 --> 01:21:54,420 less food, fewer snacks, you have to pay for them. You have 1361 01:21:54,420 --> 01:21:58,620 to pay for bags, that they often lose on the way airline 1362 01:21:58,620 --> 01:22:00,210 personnel to me how good 1363 01:22:00,209 --> 01:22:05,369 is this? This guy is like he's getting the star Merit Award of 1364 01:22:05,369 --> 01:22:06,779 Honor for the train. 1365 01:22:06,779 --> 01:22:09,209 Yeah, he's like listing everything is bullcrap, by the 1366 01:22:09,209 --> 01:22:13,199 way, you don't have to three hours is a lie is a total lie. 1367 01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:16,889 It's a lie. But he's used to the excuses that from the 1368 01:22:16,889 --> 01:22:19,109 journalistic perspective as well. And now I'm just 1369 01:22:19,109 --> 01:22:21,149 exaggerating a little bit just to make the point that you do 1370 01:22:21,149 --> 01:22:23,849 have to be there earlier and they make a big deal out of it 1371 01:22:23,849 --> 01:22:27,719 and all the rest of it, and the end, but it's like the laundry 1372 01:22:27,719 --> 01:22:30,419 list of problems that gov complaints. He's he's doing it 1373 01:22:30,419 --> 01:22:32,909 and exaggerating them all to make it even worse, which is 1374 01:22:32,909 --> 01:22:34,199 they're actually you shouldn't be doing but 1375 01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,200 wait, there's more. John, it doesn't end there. Oh, no. 1376 01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:39,360 Is the problem the 1377 01:22:42,780 --> 01:22:46,920 generalizations about airline personnel, but this idea that 1378 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,070 this guy is a folk hero that a lot of people seem to not 1379 01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:54,180 identify with the passengers. But with the with Slater in this 1380 01:22:54,180 --> 01:22:58,320 case. I mean, did Rush Limbaugh he was saying, you know, maybe 1381 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,110 the guy was racing home to hear the WinBot radio program. 1382 01:23:03,510 --> 01:23:06,720 I mean, I think it's there's a clear reason why we all of us in 1383 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,260 some way sympathize with him. He had a bad day at the office. He 1384 01:23:10,260 --> 01:23:13,620 kind of lost it. He had his Howard Beale wheel moment here. 1385 01:23:13,620 --> 01:23:17,250 I'm mad as hell. I'm going to pull the emergency slide and 1386 01:23:17,250 --> 01:23:20,340 just shoot out of there with a beard in my hand. Don't worry, 1387 01:23:20,340 --> 01:23:28,050 I'm gonna start cursing here. But then, I think what we're 1388 01:23:28,050 --> 01:23:31,140 realizing now is that actually it's us passengers so should 1389 01:23:31,140 --> 01:23:32,550 have this Howard Beale moment. 1390 01:23:33,330 --> 01:23:37,080 Here you go. So he, now the other guy is going to pile jump 1391 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,690 and do another planes. Bad thing about us. 1392 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,600 I think we've all anyone who's flown domestic in this country 1393 01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:46,440 must have a masochistic streak in them. It is it is one of the 1394 01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:48,600 worst experiences. I mean, especially compared 10 years 1395 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,140 ago. I mean, my favorite is the fee for the extra piece of 1396 01:23:52,140 --> 01:23:54,750 luggage, which happens to be your first piece of luggage that 1397 01:23:54,750 --> 01:23:55,680 you want to check in. 1398 01:23:56,310 --> 01:23:59,310 Man Oh, check for luggage. If they thought it was going to 1399 01:23:59,310 --> 01:24:03,240 arrive with them at their destination? It often does not. 1400 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,240 I mean, the in the name of safety in the last 10 years, 1401 01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,080 it's in the name of safety. I think airline personnel has been 1402 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:14,700 on a power trip. And, frankly, and they've made airline travel 1403 01:24:14,940 --> 01:24:18,300 in the large in many ways miserable. And again, my 1404 01:24:18,300 --> 01:24:21,510 sympathies have always been with this woman whether she exists or 1405 01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:21,690 not. 1406 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,210 So you get the whole point, obviously. 1407 01:24:29,010 --> 01:24:32,160 Yeah. But they don't bring the trains 1408 01:24:34,890 --> 01:24:37,920 do they use Yeah, they don't need to bring the trains into. 1409 01:24:38,580 --> 01:24:41,040 I know I'm saying that. But there at least they didn't do 1410 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:41,610 that. 1411 01:24:43,140 --> 01:24:50,310 We had one other planes bad story about the 15 year olds who 1412 01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:55,200 took their babysitting money and hopped on a Southwest flight. 1413 01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,710 I'm sure you heard about this story, John. Yep. 1414 01:24:59,189 --> 01:25:02,339 At West Airlines. just defending its policy on unaccompanied 1415 01:25:02,339 --> 01:25:05,369 minors after three Jacksonville children bought plane tickets to 1416 01:25:05,369 --> 01:25:08,669 Nashville and flew there without their parents even knowing about 1417 01:25:08,669 --> 01:25:08,849 it. 1418 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:13,590 Listen to these kids. They're totally prepped three ar 1513 1419 01:25:13,620 --> 01:25:16,470 and 11. NBC smart Potter reports. 1420 01:25:18,270 --> 01:25:22,020 On a summer day in Jacksonville, Florida, 13 year old Bobby Nolan 1421 01:25:22,020 --> 01:25:25,890 was looking for something to do. When 15 year old Bridget brown 1422 01:25:25,890 --> 01:25:27,360 sent him a text message. 1423 01:25:27,420 --> 01:25:29,760 I asked him today if you wanted to go to Nashville, Tennessee. 1424 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,080 Welcome to Dollywood, 1425 01:25:31,109 --> 01:25:35,009 they decided to visit the Dollywood theme park using $700 1426 01:25:35,009 --> 01:25:36,779 Bridget saved from babysitting. 1427 01:25:37,530 --> 01:25:43,560 Dude, I've babysat before. Have you ever saved $700 for 1428 01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:44,610 babysitting? 1429 01:25:45,390 --> 01:25:46,920 Hey, maybe she babysits a lot. 1430 01:25:49,020 --> 01:25:52,140 And without telling their parents, Bridget for 11 year old 1431 01:25:52,140 --> 01:25:56,370 brother Cody and Bobby then took a cab to the airport and bought 1432 01:25:56,370 --> 01:25:57,750 tickets to Nashville. 1433 01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,700 Anyway, I don't want this is the clip is way too long. But they 1434 01:26:02,700 --> 01:26:05,940 bring in the expert who then, you know, says oh, there's a 1435 01:26:05,940 --> 01:26:10,170 huge security hole because anyone under the age of 50, 1436 01:26:10,170 --> 01:26:13,410 under the age of 18, I think even says doesn't have to 1437 01:26:13,410 --> 01:26:16,200 identify themselves. Because these kids went to the airport, 1438 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,140 they paid cash, you know they could have been terrorists. 1439 01:26:19,470 --> 01:26:20,340 That's not true. 1440 01:26:21,420 --> 01:26:24,720 This is what they're saying. What's not true 1441 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,480 that looked into the TSA rules on this because we might find my 1442 01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:30,360 daughter back and forth. You know, I usually fly with her and 1443 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,360 I always make sure she has her her ID. But it turns out that if 1444 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,700 you're a parent and you have an under you know somebody under 1445 01:26:35,700 --> 01:26:39,390 21, or 18, or whatever it is, I guess it's 18. They don't have 1446 01:26:39,390 --> 01:26:42,900 to have an ID that is a security hole of sorts. The kids do not 1447 01:26:42,900 --> 01:26:45,600 have to have IDs. That's if they're traveling with some 1448 01:26:45,630 --> 01:26:47,760 with someone. Well, you want to hear the experts. You 1449 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,790 have just three kids that did they have no idea. Do we know 1450 01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:53,220 that for a fact that the older girl have ID? Well, 1451 01:26:53,340 --> 01:26:57,480 no, they had no ID and nobody had Id No. And this guy even 1452 01:26:57,510 --> 01:27:01,560 this guy, it gets into a whole IDs thing was like everyone has 1453 01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,930 some form of ID you've got a birth certificate which by the 1454 01:27:03,930 --> 01:27:06,330 way it doesn't it's not qualified. His ID doesn't have 1455 01:27:06,330 --> 01:27:09,600 your picture on it. There's not yet it's idle. Listen to this 1456 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:10,290 guy, again are 1457 01:27:10,290 --> 01:27:15,060 not required to show ID to fly. All they need is a valid 1458 01:27:15,060 --> 01:27:19,170 boarding pass before entering security. And Southwest Airlines 1459 01:27:19,170 --> 01:27:23,700 says under its policies, a 12 year old can travel alone. As 1460 01:27:23,700 --> 01:27:27,900 for 11 year old Kodi southwest says he too was okay to fly 1461 01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:29,520 because he was accompanied 1462 01:27:29,550 --> 01:27:31,680 listen to the experts whether she brought it home. 1463 01:27:32,490 --> 01:27:36,210 This was within the rules then specifically, but a lot of 1464 01:27:36,210 --> 01:27:38,880 people are saying Does the gate agent. Does the ticketing agent 1465 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,670 have any discretion when they're either issuing these tickets, a 1466 01:27:41,670 --> 01:27:44,460 child's paying cash? And you know, Chris, you said where's 1467 01:27:44,460 --> 01:27:46,800 your mom and dad? Do they know you're flying? So many alarm 1468 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,230 bells are going off here. First off the ages of the kids, 1469 01:27:49,230 --> 01:27:51,930 especially the very young one, they're buying tickets with 1470 01:27:51,930 --> 01:27:54,930 cash, they're buying one way only tickets, there's no parents 1471 01:27:54,930 --> 01:27:58,380 there. There's no ID, any one of those things could have set, set 1472 01:27:58,380 --> 01:28:01,650 this thing in motion to ask for supervisor who might come in and 1473 01:28:01,650 --> 01:28:03,990 say, Hey, kids, your folks know you're here. Right? Exactly. 1474 01:28:03,990 --> 01:28:06,000 Just to double check power was common sense. 1475 01:28:06,180 --> 01:28:08,490 The question is, I want to know, you mentioned Southwest 1476 01:28:08,490 --> 01:28:11,190 Airlines. And they're saying we actually have a specific thing. 1477 01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:16,320 So a couple of things jump out. Yeah. First of all, 15 year old 1478 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,340 kid can get on a bus. Sure. Exam, get a bus they get on a 1479 01:28:20,340 --> 01:28:22,950 Greyhound bus, anywhere they want. So what difference does it 1480 01:28:22,950 --> 01:28:25,170 make whether it's a bus or a plane? Well, now they're trying 1481 01:28:25,170 --> 01:28:27,450 to make a security thing because we're going to have obviously 11 1482 01:28:27,450 --> 01:28:29,940 year olds going to be loaded up with bombs. And yeah, I guess 1483 01:28:29,940 --> 01:28:31,560 that could happen in the Middle East. But it's not going to 1484 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,200 happen here. Let's face reality. This is a bunch of malarkey. 1485 01:28:34,530 --> 01:28:39,270 It's baloney. They've had one way tickets without it's like, 1486 01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:41,580 you know, you kids going there to get to move there. I couldn't 1487 01:28:41,580 --> 01:28:43,350 believe they had one way tickets. It doesn't make any 1488 01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:44,790 sense. I don't I don't 1489 01:28:44,850 --> 01:28:49,500 understand how they TSA does not let you through. This just 1490 01:28:49,530 --> 01:28:53,640 doesn't do the whole story sounds bogus to me. You can TSA 1491 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,420 checks your ID against your ticket. And you can't go through 1492 01:28:57,420 --> 01:29:00,900 security unless you have that or and yeah, sure. Maybe if you're 1493 01:29:00,900 --> 01:29:03,810 with an adult and you're 15 you don't have to have 1494 01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:07,440 that doesn't make sense. The oldest girl must have had ID 1495 01:29:07,470 --> 01:29:10,350 Well, they say she didn't say she did somebody There's 1496 01:29:10,350 --> 01:29:12,690 something's wrong with the report. Well, the thing 1497 01:29:12,689 --> 01:29:15,089 that's wrong with the only reason why it's a report is 1498 01:29:15,089 --> 01:29:17,009 because the planes are bad. 1499 01:29:17,399 --> 01:29:21,179 Well, so I'm not even sure that see the problem is what could 1500 01:29:21,179 --> 01:29:24,119 they get on a train and go to Nashville? I mean, is that okay? 1501 01:29:25,019 --> 01:29:27,149 This is making me sick. 1502 01:29:27,179 --> 01:29:31,589 Yes. Could you just reiterate briefly why we think this whole 1503 01:29:31,589 --> 01:29:33,539 trains and planes thing is going on? 1504 01:29:34,109 --> 01:29:38,519 Yeah. The you know, we have one of the greatest transportation 1505 01:29:38,519 --> 01:29:41,669 systems in the world with our airline system. You can go 1506 01:29:41,669 --> 01:29:44,789 anywhere you want and you can go get there rather quickly. We're 1507 01:29:44,789 --> 01:29:47,399 never going to move to trains which is really only works in a 1508 01:29:47,399 --> 01:29:50,819 compact area like Europe, or in places where you really, you 1509 01:29:50,819 --> 01:29:53,489 know, you got to control the people more like maybe China. 1510 01:29:53,849 --> 01:29:56,999 But generally speaking, we're never going to take a high speed 1511 01:29:56,999 --> 01:30:00,329 rail from San Francisco to Chicago, or even Sam resist go 1512 01:30:00,329 --> 01:30:03,809 to Los Angeles for that matter. The idea though is to is to kind 1513 01:30:03,809 --> 01:30:07,709 of promote the idea of high speed rail. So we can put in new 1514 01:30:07,709 --> 01:30:10,529 track beds around the country which are falling apart and 1515 01:30:10,529 --> 01:30:12,719 they're old fashioned with these new tracks are made out of 1516 01:30:12,839 --> 01:30:16,949 welded steel and on the cement beds are built Rearden metal. 1517 01:30:17,579 --> 01:30:20,609 They're absolutely fantastic. And the idea is to set it up to 1518 01:30:20,639 --> 01:30:24,299 make the taxpayers pick up the bill for upgrading the bed 1519 01:30:24,449 --> 01:30:28,649 around the country. So they so Burlington Northern can at some 1520 01:30:28,649 --> 01:30:31,409 point, say hey, you're not using it this very well. Nobody's 1521 01:30:31,409 --> 01:30:34,709 taking your stupid high speed rail. Can we use it all? Okay, 1522 01:30:34,709 --> 01:30:37,169 well, maybe we can make up you know, we can get something out 1523 01:30:37,169 --> 01:30:39,689 of these tracks, and then all the trade that goes on the high 1524 01:30:39,689 --> 01:30:42,809 speed rail and goes flying around it without Burlington 1525 01:30:42,809 --> 01:30:46,049 Northern having to pick up a nickel of it. It's a scam. 1526 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,420 Thank you. Thank you very much. I 1527 01:30:48,420 --> 01:30:49,980 got to shorten that speech up a little bit. 1528 01:30:50,069 --> 01:30:52,349 That was that was much better. But you know, because new people 1529 01:30:52,349 --> 01:30:54,989 are listening to the show. And like, why are you guys against 1530 01:30:54,989 --> 01:30:59,039 trains is wonderful. We can get there and three times the amount 1531 01:30:59,039 --> 01:31:04,859 of time we can spend days. We can we got Wi Fi is wonderful. 1532 01:31:05,399 --> 01:31:06,779 The trains are good. 1533 01:31:09,630 --> 01:31:11,850 And even if it's a local, like I said the other day, I mean, I 1534 01:31:11,850 --> 01:31:14,370 can go to take the train to Sacramento to go to the museum 1535 01:31:14,370 --> 01:31:18,540 up there. But I did cost more than it would cost me to drive. 1536 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,360 I would get there maybe a little faster, but not much. And I 1537 01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,400 don't have a car when I'm there. I mean, the whole thing is 1538 01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,910 ridiculous. It makes no logical sense. 1539 01:31:26,939 --> 01:31:29,759 Maybe the TSA let him through like hey, we got three kids. We 1540 01:31:29,759 --> 01:31:30,749 can look at him naked. 1541 01:31:31,710 --> 01:31:35,670 It was a bunch of bullcrap. It's more like it yeah. So I got an 1542 01:31:35,670 --> 01:31:37,710 interesting clip we want to change the topic a bit like you 1543 01:31:37,710 --> 01:31:39,690 have more trains and planes things No, 1544 01:31:39,690 --> 01:31:42,450 but let me just let me just close it out. Because we'd love 1545 01:31:42,450 --> 01:31:50,760 playing the jingle so much all aboard trains, planes, bad. Wi 1546 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:51,870 Fi and hot towels. 1547 01:31:52,979 --> 01:31:56,129 So the you know, I haven't heard it in the morning for a while. 1548 01:32:01,019 --> 01:32:05,129 So that's not a bad combination. So Christopher Hitchens, the 1549 01:32:05,159 --> 01:32:08,189 British writer who is a very interesting character in terms 1550 01:32:08,189 --> 01:32:12,149 of his politics, and his intellectualism, as a journalist 1551 01:32:12,329 --> 01:32:14,759 is dying and he's probably going to be dead before the end of the 1552 01:32:14,759 --> 01:32:18,509 year to dying of AIDS. They had esophageal cancer, which is a 1553 01:32:18,509 --> 01:32:21,479 mustache the size of everything he's gotten as long as in his 1554 01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:27,449 lymph nodes. And, but he had heard of Charlie Rose, who were 1555 01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,089 not necessarily big fans that had a pretty good interview with 1556 01:32:30,089 --> 01:32:32,009 him a couple days ago. What you mean, 1557 01:32:32,370 --> 01:32:35,880 tell me about the sexuality. It's in your DNA 1558 01:32:36,090 --> 01:32:37,650 that Charlie Rose? Yeah, 1559 01:32:37,649 --> 01:32:41,099 well, this is when he's with a male it's a little different. So 1560 01:32:42,179 --> 01:32:44,969 and I just I was listening to thing looking for some some 1561 01:32:44,969 --> 01:32:47,279 clips and the only one I found that was kind of interesting was 1562 01:32:47,279 --> 01:32:51,179 Hitchens on Clinton. He they asked him about his feelings 1563 01:32:51,179 --> 01:32:53,789 about Bill Clinton and I thought since we've been you know, 1564 01:32:53,819 --> 01:32:56,669 pounding Clinton since he's he's still hasn't filed as you know, 1565 01:32:56,669 --> 01:32:59,129 anything under the charity of his he's stealing money for the 1566 01:32:59,279 --> 01:33:02,219 Haitians, and he's on the jet the Gulf Stream because we if 1567 01:33:02,219 --> 01:33:04,589 anyone listened to last week's show, we documented a lot of 1568 01:33:04,769 --> 01:33:08,609 interesting things about why Cliff Josh, white Cliff Sean, 1569 01:33:09,029 --> 01:33:11,129 and the Gulfstream jet he flies around, and 1570 01:33:11,550 --> 01:33:13,530 I have some more on him later, by the way, 1571 01:33:13,860 --> 01:33:16,800 well play the Clinton on the Hitchens on Clinton thing. I 1572 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,740 just think it's a really interesting clip from a guy 1573 01:33:19,740 --> 01:33:23,370 who's really has nothing to lose, has nothing to lose. 1574 01:33:23,700 --> 01:33:28,410 Has time made you more or less admiring of Bill Clinton. 1575 01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:33,990 Certainly not more. But then I'm not sure it could have been a 1576 01:33:33,990 --> 01:33:35,550 less really, yes. 1577 01:33:36,660 --> 01:33:38,100 You had that much 1578 01:33:40,859 --> 01:33:46,019 it's it's visceral. If it is what is the mistress of I've 1579 01:33:47,339 --> 01:33:50,789 interviewed some of the women whose stories never quite made 1580 01:33:50,789 --> 01:33:54,719 it. Who claimed that he forced himself on them I think they're 1581 01:33:54,719 --> 01:33:59,339 telling the truth. I thought that his 1582 01:33:59,399 --> 01:34:00,779 net unimaginable to you in 1583 01:34:01,530 --> 01:34:06,840 Yes. Yes, yes. I'd have a friend to it. Yeah, exactly. 1584 01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:12,690 Imagine well because the idea that that you have been so lucky 1585 01:34:12,690 --> 01:34:15,210 and fortunate or successful 1586 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:20,700 well now I'm not sure I saw that coming 1587 01:34:22,109 --> 01:34:24,809 I've been looking for an opportunity to I think that I 1588 01:34:24,809 --> 01:34:27,269 had a better way but I think there's I think even the most 1589 01:34:27,269 --> 01:34:27,869 What the hell 1590 01:34:27,870 --> 01:34:28,860 is Rose doing 1591 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:32,250 Rose is you know now that you mentioned I was going to edit 1592 01:34:32,250 --> 01:34:35,820 that part out because it was rows being so friggin lame 1593 01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,180 about the sexuality it's in your DNA 1594 01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,900 apparently about you know, Hitchens, womanizing without 1595 01:34:42,900 --> 01:34:45,630 having to be a masher, but he couldn't bring himself to 1596 01:34:45,630 --> 01:34:49,230 actually did it. So it became this this kind of awkward moment 1597 01:34:49,230 --> 01:34:51,300 in the interview and I found I was going to just cut it out and 1598 01:34:51,300 --> 01:34:54,960 I forgot to the guy's a jerk. Yeah, but anyway, so he gets 1599 01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:56,790 back on topic here right after this was 1600 01:34:56,790 --> 01:35:01,650 the quipped of men. You should get used to the idea that if the 1601 01:35:01,650 --> 01:35:03,960 good to enjoy feel female company better be on their own 1602 01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:05,250 merits. Yeah, exactly. So 1603 01:35:05,250 --> 01:35:07,320 what's the visceral attitude about Clinton? 1604 01:35:07,350 --> 01:35:09,420 I thought that George Stephanopoulos was essentially 1605 01:35:09,420 --> 01:35:12,780 right when he realized the demand was so so perfect that 1606 01:35:12,780 --> 01:35:16,560 other people don't have a real existence. I mean, he's he only 1607 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:22,140 cares about himself. I thought that was so obvious and so 1608 01:35:22,170 --> 01:35:27,810 reptilian so damaging to politics. 1609 01:35:28,170 --> 01:35:33,300 That seems to be in the end. History is what fascinates you 1610 01:35:33,300 --> 01:35:37,170 the most? The Making of history? 1611 01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,290 Yes. And having a sense of what goes into making that. Yeah, 1612 01:35:40,290 --> 01:35:40,860 absolutely. 1613 01:35:41,130 --> 01:35:44,040 And what you have said before, is the idea that you influence 1614 01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:48,120 history is the most intoxicating of things. Yeah. 1615 01:35:48,750 --> 01:35:52,890 So I didn't Did I must have missed this Stephanopoulos. I 1616 01:35:52,890 --> 01:35:55,200 didn't know stepping off was said that Clinton was a 1617 01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:56,100 sociopath. 1618 01:35:56,460 --> 01:36:03,750 I never heard it. It wasn't on extra Western. I wasn't on 1619 01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:10,350 extra. So I must have missed it. Wow. Yeah. So a couple of 1620 01:36:10,350 --> 01:36:11,340 nuggets there a. 1621 01:36:12,300 --> 01:36:15,120 Yeah, I thought that I was very interested in that. And he 1622 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,750 really, but you know, I knew somebody who was an agent, 1623 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:25,020 female that was matched by him. He apparently goes up to a lot 1624 01:36:25,020 --> 01:36:27,540 of women that he's targeting and he first thing he starts doing, 1625 01:36:27,540 --> 01:36:30,510 she said creeps her out. It starts you know, you know, these 1626 01:36:30,510 --> 01:36:33,540 using these guys, they go up to a woman and they start rubbing 1627 01:36:33,540 --> 01:36:36,240 them as you rubbing the woman's shoulders, or they're rubbing 1628 01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,360 their arm as they're talking to him constantly. Yeah. And 1629 01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,120 apparently he does that kind of thing. And then again, it moves 1630 01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,580 keeps moving in closer, you have to keep backing off until you 1631 01:36:44,580 --> 01:36:48,060 hit a wall. And then you know, then he moves in his eye. But 1632 01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:53,730 the curious thing, Gore seems to be the same way. All right. 1633 01:36:53,850 --> 01:37:01,050 Also, speaking of Bill, the, the guy who pretty much single 1634 01:37:01,050 --> 01:37:06,120 handedly is helped the takeover of Haiti. Very interesting 1635 01:37:06,150 --> 01:37:10,500 article in Spanish article, let me bring up the original, I have 1636 01:37:10,500 --> 01:37:17,250 the Google translation in El caribe.com, that door from the 1637 01:37:17,250 --> 01:37:20,790 Dominican Republic. Well, it's interesting when you go to 1638 01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:25,290 translate an article on Google. And so you've copied the URL, 1639 01:37:25,290 --> 01:37:29,250 and then you go to Google, and you click on Language Tools, it 1640 01:37:29,250 --> 01:37:31,890 already knows that you want to translate Spanish. Have you ever 1641 01:37:31,890 --> 01:37:35,580 noticed that? If you have like, if you have a German article, it 1642 01:37:35,580 --> 01:37:38,190 already has German pre selected. 1643 01:37:38,789 --> 01:37:40,829 But that's no, I didn't notice that. But that's a very nice 1644 01:37:40,829 --> 01:37:41,309 feature. 1645 01:37:42,090 --> 01:37:48,150 Nice feature. So this is a scientific study of the 1646 01:37:48,150 --> 01:37:52,560 earthquake in Haiti, which, as you know, I believe was caused 1647 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:57,180 by the earthquake machine. So there is a fault in Haiti. We 1648 01:37:57,180 --> 01:38:00,420 know there is because there was an earthquake, was it 80 years 1649 01:38:00,420 --> 01:38:05,790 ago or something? Yeah, and but that was not this, this fault. 1650 01:38:07,260 --> 01:38:11,100 Scientists have are puzzled and are scratching their heads 1651 01:38:11,100 --> 01:38:14,580 because it was not this fault, there must be a new fault 1652 01:38:14,580 --> 01:38:19,350 somewhere. The absence of changes on the ground in the 1653 01:38:19,350 --> 01:38:24,300 area is the first indication the fault was not responsible. As 1654 01:38:24,300 --> 01:38:27,420 the fault extends east to west or part of the land bounced up 1655 01:38:27,420 --> 01:38:32,130 and south to the north of the fault, named N and Rikuo, an 1656 01:38:32,130 --> 01:38:35,130 indication of the existence of another fault, although still 1657 01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:41,970 unknown in that area. So more credence to my theory that that 1658 01:38:41,970 --> 01:38:45,960 this was set off by a so called earthquake machine, 1659 01:38:46,830 --> 01:38:52,080 intentionally so. And so then we get this douchebag whitecliff 1660 01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:56,040 Shah, who all of a sudden, he's got the Armani suit and his 1661 01:38:56,040 --> 01:39:01,020 flying in the Gulfstream for the Clinton uses and the and the oil 1662 01:39:01,020 --> 01:39:05,430 guys are using because of course is a complete oil takeover. And 1663 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:11,250 now because of he was a fugi a fugi. And a former bandmate of 1664 01:39:11,250 --> 01:39:16,440 his comes out and says, Well, this guy's a douchebag he 1665 01:39:16,440 --> 01:39:20,010 shouldn't be he shouldn't be president of Haiti. You've got 1666 01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:26,190 this is Pross is his bandmate Pross patient born musician says 1667 01:39:26,190 --> 01:39:29,370 he will not back whitecliff home because he lacks a definitive 1668 01:39:29,370 --> 01:39:32,880 plan to bring the island nation into the 21st century. It gets 1669 01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,730 better here. You've got 1.2 million people living in tent 1670 01:39:35,730 --> 01:39:38,790 city right now. What are the plans to get these people out 1671 01:39:38,820 --> 01:39:42,000 process said of the survivors of the January 12 earthquake 1672 01:39:42,330 --> 01:39:47,670 process plans to support John's opponent, Michael Sweet Mickey 1673 01:39:47,670 --> 01:39:50,610 Martelly. So we have a new player 1674 01:39:51,780 --> 01:39:55,770 and a metalli. This guy voted for him. You know what I mean? 1675 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:59,100 Michel Martelly has been heralded as a pioneer of a 1676 01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:03,360 unique brand of composite music of style of Haitian dance music. 1677 01:40:04,650 --> 01:40:10,260 Yeah, so they've got they've got the new name. It is a sweet 1678 01:40:10,260 --> 01:40:13,560 Mickey is his nickname and you spell the way my Mickey's name M 1679 01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:22,860 I C K y. Michel Martelly Ma, R t e LL. Y. And it's the Battle of 1680 01:40:22,860 --> 01:40:28,380 the musicians for the presidency of Haiti. But this guy, this 1681 01:40:28,380 --> 01:40:32,940 sweet Mickey guy, he's perhaps even worse. He's worse. 1682 01:40:33,630 --> 01:40:36,630 outlandish ly and outspoken. Martelli has been known to drink 1683 01:40:36,630 --> 01:40:39,600 publicly while performing in wigs, costumes, diapers and 1684 01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,170 Scottish kilts, and occasionally remove his own attire while 1685 01:40:43,170 --> 01:40:48,060 performing. Well, arguably the most recognized and applauded 1686 01:40:48,060 --> 01:40:51,090 musician and public personality in Haiti. Martellus performance 1687 01:40:51,090 --> 01:40:53,670 style has sometimes ignited controversy throughout the 1688 01:40:53,670 --> 01:40:57,540 Haitian diaspora. He has finished school and has a degree 1689 01:40:57,540 --> 01:41:00,150 in music lessons. I'm reading from Wikipedia. So take that 1690 01:41:00,150 --> 01:41:02,220 with a grain of salt. So 1691 01:41:03,780 --> 01:41:09,210 as late as August 6, Michel Martelly is shown as mi CH, E. 1692 01:41:09,210 --> 01:41:13,350 L. We have it here. Martelly I use a ball is just shaved head 1693 01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:16,470 character is his running mate of whitecliff. John, 1694 01:41:17,370 --> 01:41:20,730 really, where did you have this? Is that also on the weekend and 1695 01:41:20,730 --> 01:41:25,560 on a website that called Lovely t.com Which is apparently a 1696 01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,710 music site or something that comes out of the area. Pa white 1697 01:41:28,710 --> 01:41:31,920 Smith, right. White Cliffs running mate Michel Martelly 1698 01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:35,490 speaks. Ha then it's an interview with him. 1699 01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,450 mortalities past and current friendships with members of 1700 01:41:39,450 --> 01:41:42,750 Haiti's turbulent government and with US diplomats has been met 1701 01:41:42,750 --> 01:41:45,840 with mixed opinion and criticism by music fans and activists 1702 01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:50,400 alike. They're both shills, this, this is the perfect way if 1703 01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:53,430 you want to make sure you get the right outcome of the match. 1704 01:41:53,430 --> 01:41:56,640 You've got to own both sides. So they're like, Okay, we got this 1705 01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:59,010 whitecliff Shawn he's in we need someone to run against them. Who 1706 01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,920 was the guy with the diapers? Yeah, that guy, but bring him 1707 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:02,220 in. 1708 01:42:03,390 --> 01:42:04,410 There's the link. 1709 01:42:05,850 --> 01:42:07,530 Is there a video we can play? 1710 01:42:08,010 --> 01:42:11,670 Now? Well, yeah, maybe down further, but I don't trust it. 1711 01:42:12,210 --> 01:42:15,240 I'll put this into the show notes as well. That is 1712 01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:19,200 phenomenal. Phenomenal. They've just they just don't 1713 01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,270 think let's put it this way. Something's fishy. 1714 01:42:23,010 --> 01:42:25,590 And the answer, of course to what are you going to do with 1715 01:42:25,590 --> 01:42:29,130 the 1.2 million intensity? Is that going to be your servants? 1716 01:42:29,820 --> 01:42:33,810 They're going to be serving your drinks your Mojito. And they're 1717 01:42:33,810 --> 01:42:36,450 going to be cleaning up your room making your bed in the 1718 01:42:36,660 --> 01:42:40,980 Hilton Hotel in the Clinton Clinton Hilton hotel complex. 1719 01:42:41,820 --> 01:42:44,880 total ripoff of that country. I don't see any video on this 1720 01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:49,050 page. Is there anything that doesn't matter? And of course, 1721 01:42:49,050 --> 01:42:52,980 lots of people sent me the Ritz crackers spot that Wyclef Shan 1722 01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:57,150 stars in I guess he's now the spokesman for Ritz crackers. So 1723 01:42:57,150 --> 01:42:59,460 what what are we gonna do with this 1.2 million people we're 1724 01:42:59,460 --> 01:43:03,030 going to let them eat Ritz crackers. Eat Ritz crackers in 1725 01:43:06,210 --> 01:43:07,560 sorry Haiti. Nice no one yeah, 1726 01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:14,970 this is interesting. This from September 27 2007 Michel 1727 01:43:14,970 --> 01:43:19,290 Martelly and whitecliff campaign video they apparently have been 1728 01:43:19,290 --> 01:43:25,050 running before in some way shape or form Wow, I can't believe 1729 01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,180 this when we look at this again this is what this is for him so 1730 01:43:27,180 --> 01:43:28,290 the date may be wrong but 1731 01:43:28,290 --> 01:43:31,470 John This makes so much sense if you if you want to win an 1732 01:43:31,470 --> 01:43:34,830 election, you've got to own both sides. These two guys who 1733 01:43:34,830 --> 01:43:38,340 apparently are friends that just gonna be they're gonna be 1734 01:43:38,340 --> 01:43:41,190 running against each other. But they both it doesn't matter who 1735 01:43:41,190 --> 01:43:44,910 wins because they're both in the pocket of the corporations. 1736 01:43:46,380 --> 01:43:51,030 Wow, is it Sunday August 8, posting from somebody who was 1737 01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:56,460 fairly listening to some presentation this is August 8. I 1738 01:43:56,460 --> 01:43:58,890 have to admit sweet Mickey presented himself better than 1739 01:43:58,890 --> 01:44:01,530 white cliff in his video interview so there's something 1740 01:44:01,530 --> 01:44:03,570 out there we can look at. However, neither one of these 1741 01:44:03,570 --> 01:44:05,460 should be a candidate. So this is where they're, I guess, 1742 01:44:05,820 --> 01:44:09,630 facing off against each other. Cliff was not delivering a 1743 01:44:09,630 --> 01:44:12,240 speech Cliff was wrapping Mickey on the other hand was quite 1744 01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:15,960 elegant in delivering his positions and ideas. There's 1745 01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:20,610 something this is just totally fishy. Yeah, you think and 1746 01:44:20,610 --> 01:44:22,740 here's some videos you I'm gonna give you this link but we don't 1747 01:44:22,740 --> 01:44:25,050 we don't want to play these now. But you should lose later. I'll 1748 01:44:25,050 --> 01:44:31,230 put them in the show notes for sure. Good you got any more 1749 01:44:31,230 --> 01:44:31,740 clips? 1750 01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,310 Yeah, I got a couple All right, roll back to let me see I'm 1751 01:44:35,310 --> 01:44:36,210 sending you the Skype thing 1752 01:44:36,210 --> 01:44:39,870 I got it. I got it. I got it. Oh, I love the internet. Thank 1753 01:44:39,870 --> 01:44:42,930 you Skype. Too bad you're going public. So what it all suck from 1754 01:44:42,930 --> 01:44:44,580 now on. Pulling joy 1755 01:44:44,730 --> 01:44:48,660 out a word that's that's a cool one to use. Which is there's a 1756 01:44:48,660 --> 01:44:51,990 15 second ad called deodorant and it which has a weird sound 1757 01:44:51,990 --> 01:44:54,270 effect in the middle of the sea. If you pick up the sound effect. 1758 01:44:55,410 --> 01:44:58,800 There's a 15 second ad for a deodorant and the use there's a 1759 01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:03,390 usage in there that I think it's just so cool. JC and I both 1760 01:45:03,390 --> 01:45:07,020 spotted it as a Word, we should be using more. But see if you 1761 01:45:07,020 --> 01:45:09,090 can find you first you're gonna have to listen for the sound 1762 01:45:09,090 --> 01:45:11,760 effect, which is hilarious and then the word that we're 1763 01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,270 looking for, and it's not to panty waste. No, okay, that's a 1764 01:45:15,270 --> 01:45:15,450 good. 1765 01:45:16,140 --> 01:45:19,380 If you feel you sweat more than average, you probably avoid 1766 01:45:19,380 --> 01:45:24,780 getting close to people. degree Clinical Protection is what his 1767 01:45:24,780 --> 01:45:28,380 protection is up to three times stronger than necessary. Dare to 1768 01:45:28,380 --> 01:45:29,550 get much closer? 1769 01:45:30,540 --> 01:45:35,970 Okay, I got the Yeah, I but I didn't hear the word. Clinical. 1770 01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:38,280 Clinical. Let me hear that. 1771 01:45:39,390 --> 01:45:42,660 If you feel you sweat more than average, you probably avoid 1772 01:45:42,660 --> 01:45:48,030 getting close to people. degree Clinical Protection is what his 1773 01:45:48,030 --> 01:45:51,630 protection is up to three times stronger than necessary. Dare to 1774 01:45:51,630 --> 01:45:52,800 get much closer? 1775 01:45:54,090 --> 01:45:56,280 Yeah, that's a good one. We could use surgical too, because 1776 01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:57,450 you can also use that like, 1777 01:45:57,810 --> 01:46:03,240 what is critical about deodorant use the word clinical is if 1778 01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,240 you're what you're gonna find in the hospital. Oh, get her some 1779 01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:07,380 clinical protection. 1780 01:46:07,380 --> 01:46:10,590 Oh, my God, he's sweating. John, get him some clinical protection 1781 01:46:10,590 --> 01:46:16,620 immediately. That's better than the ding on Hot Pockets. Bloop. 1782 01:46:17,310 --> 01:46:20,220 We should get a blue. We need to get that that's good. 1783 01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:22,530 Clinical. 1784 01:46:24,090 --> 01:46:26,040 I'm thinking it every product should have. I've got a new 1785 01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,050 clinical photography program. I mean, just 1786 01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:32,820 just throw it. I think we should use surgical to surgical 1787 01:46:32,820 --> 01:46:39,630 clinical. I have a clinical story. Female infants growing 1788 01:46:39,630 --> 01:46:43,500 breasts. Yeah, in the I saw this in China. 1789 01:46:45,149 --> 01:46:47,969 It's something in the in the formula they're serving up. 1790 01:46:48,060 --> 01:46:50,970 Yeah. Where do you think that comes from? 1791 01:46:51,689 --> 01:46:53,849 I don't know that. I think they're just trying to tank the 1792 01:46:53,849 --> 01:46:56,549 stock. I was looking at that stock, which is a publicly 1793 01:46:56,549 --> 01:47:00,689 traded company. And it was as high as 25. And once this report 1794 01:47:00,689 --> 01:47:03,359 came out, the stock tanked went down to 12. I think the whole 1795 01:47:03,359 --> 01:47:07,109 thing if I if I get if we can do the quarter, which I'm going to 1796 01:47:07,109 --> 01:47:09,989 put it on my list of stocks to pick up because I think it's 1797 01:47:09,989 --> 01:47:13,529 just I think the whole thing's bogus, designed to because I 1798 01:47:13,529 --> 01:47:16,319 think stock market manipulation is going to is going on like 1799 01:47:16,409 --> 01:47:19,949 rampantly in China. I think this was done to tank the stock, 1800 01:47:19,949 --> 01:47:23,069 which it did. Yeah. And killing can be made 1801 01:47:23,069 --> 01:47:26,189 in the US. Okay, yeah, that makes sense that Oh, very good. 1802 01:47:26,219 --> 01:47:26,909 Very good. 1803 01:47:30,030 --> 01:47:30,870 Just to guess, 1804 01:47:31,890 --> 01:47:36,210 I love listening to your tips on that show. Not that I had any 1805 01:47:36,210 --> 01:47:39,900 money to put anything. It's like the fees for buying stock or 1806 01:47:39,900 --> 01:47:43,740 more than the actual amount of stock I can buy. Anyway, share 1807 01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:47,400 my money goes to paying bills doesn't go to anything else 1808 01:47:47,430 --> 01:47:48,120 currently. 1809 01:47:49,290 --> 01:47:54,540 So I have kind of a funny clip. Oh, good. Letterman clip. As we 1810 01:47:54,540 --> 01:47:58,170 start to get into the end here. As a lighten things up. Don't 1811 01:47:58,170 --> 01:48:00,750 worry, I'll bogey out at the end. Don't worry. Yeah, we tend 1812 01:48:00,750 --> 01:48:05,460 to be discharged getting depressing. So So Letterman had 1813 01:48:05,460 --> 01:48:09,900 Landon Donovan on the show. And and he was a who's kind of an 1814 01:48:09,900 --> 01:48:13,200 arrogant character who is a soccer player. He's an American 1815 01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:16,080 soccer players on the American team. And he's and he's, you 1816 01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:19,590 know, big into soccer. And you know, and he's and so Letterman 1817 01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:24,420 kind of goes he just kind of demeans him in some very 1818 01:48:24,420 --> 01:48:28,500 peculiar way. Because I think it's because the guys act it was 1819 01:48:28,500 --> 01:48:32,520 a dick. And and you know, he's about soccer is the next big 1820 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,220 thing kind of thing. And let him has never been a soccer fan. 1821 01:48:35,220 --> 01:48:36,120 He's like, you know, he 1822 01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:37,320 doesn't get it right now. He 1823 01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:40,200 doesn't understand he doesn't get it was there to get Yeah, so 1824 01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:45,630 anyway. So so this clip, so listen to this, and I just I had 1825 01:48:45,630 --> 01:48:49,920 to be highly amused by the way he tell with his guy. Walk up 1826 01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:51,870 and get out and watch games live. Because when you watch it 1827 01:48:51,870 --> 01:48:53,340 live, you realize just how special 1828 01:48:53,370 --> 01:48:56,670 now if you were to go to see a high school soccer team, a great 1829 01:48:56,670 --> 01:48:59,490 school soccer team or a college or pro, would you see the same 1830 01:48:59,490 --> 01:49:04,830 level of play you see at the World Cup? I'd say it's highly 1831 01:49:04,830 --> 01:49:07,230 unlikely. Are you going to watch high school games is that I 1832 01:49:07,230 --> 01:49:09,570 might now you know what it just looks like. It's fun to run 1833 01:49:09,570 --> 01:49:13,890 around on that huge green field. Is it fun? I wouldn't say it's 1834 01:49:13,890 --> 01:49:17,970 fun all the time. It's funny. 1835 01:49:19,740 --> 01:49:21,240 I was amused like that, 1836 01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:25,290 and that's pretty good. I have a little clip from Burn Notice. 1837 01:49:25,290 --> 01:49:27,150 Have you ever watched that show? You know, 1838 01:49:27,149 --> 01:49:29,669 here's the problem I have with you know, other people have the 1839 01:49:29,669 --> 01:49:34,109 same problem. I'm going to kind of discuss this issue. I have 1840 01:49:34,109 --> 01:49:39,029 the entire first season of Burn Notice on DVD which I got from 1841 01:49:39,029 --> 01:49:44,489 one of the guys that used to be on the Emmy is an Emmy guy so he 1842 01:49:44,489 --> 01:49:48,689 gets all these DVDs. And the entire first season was given 1843 01:49:48,689 --> 01:49:52,559 out to the judges, and I have it so I have the first season of 1844 01:49:52,559 --> 01:49:55,589 Burn Notice that I've been itching to watch because I think 1845 01:49:55,589 --> 01:49:58,049 the theory behind the show is kind of interesting, but because 1846 01:49:58,049 --> 01:50:01,259 I haven't watched those I refuse to watch anything since, and I'm 1847 01:50:01,259 --> 01:50:04,529 noticing people doing this, like some people won't watch a new 1848 01:50:04,529 --> 01:50:06,509 episode of madmen because I haven't seen it from the 1849 01:50:06,509 --> 01:50:10,379 beginning, right? This is becoming like an issue, kind of 1850 01:50:10,379 --> 01:50:13,499 a change in policies that people are adopting. 1851 01:50:13,590 --> 01:50:15,900 It's kind of, it's kind of annoying because you have to, 1852 01:50:15,930 --> 01:50:18,870 you have to kind of know what's what's gone on previously, 1853 01:50:18,900 --> 01:50:21,660 because a lot of these series are now tied in, they write it 1854 01:50:21,660 --> 01:50:24,720 that way. So it's not really a standalone like kung fu used to 1855 01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:25,560 be when 1856 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,580 somebody wrote us, both of us to bitching about the fact we 1857 01:50:29,580 --> 01:50:32,010 haven't talked about Rubicon, which is kind of up our alley, 1858 01:50:32,010 --> 01:50:34,560 and so far as a conspiratorial, 1859 01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:37,140 she's also an American movie channel, right? 1860 01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:41,820 Yes, he's got it. Right after madmen, actually. And when I've 1861 01:50:41,820 --> 01:50:43,650 seen it for I've seen the first episode. Actually, I watched the 1862 01:50:43,650 --> 01:50:46,740 first episode three times. And I've seen all the episodes 1863 01:50:46,740 --> 01:50:50,460 fourth episodes today. And I'm totally convinced that if you'd 1864 01:50:50,460 --> 01:50:53,730 haven't seen the first episode, don't even bother. And this is 1865 01:50:53,730 --> 01:50:56,220 what's ended. And this show has got no legs, there's no way 1866 01:50:56,250 --> 01:50:58,680 because it's so complicated that no one's gonna be able to follow 1867 01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:01,890 unless they've seen every episode, from the beginning, who 1868 01:51:01,890 --> 01:51:04,890 produced is asking too much, and they don't have it online. And 1869 01:51:04,890 --> 01:51:08,010 my son was saying, Why don't they put it online so people can 1870 01:51:08,010 --> 01:51:10,680 catch up. This is the mistake AMC and these other guys are 1871 01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:11,130 making. 1872 01:51:11,430 --> 01:51:16,290 It's, well this is from Hulu. So but this may be season four, I 1873 01:51:16,290 --> 01:51:22,050 think, who produces this? I don't. Okay. So listen to this 1874 01:51:22,050 --> 01:51:27,330 little bit of dialogue, which of course is art imitating life. I 1875 01:51:27,330 --> 01:51:29,220 thought Marines were all about teamwork. 1876 01:51:30,330 --> 01:51:33,360 bomb disposal, you know, right. I know that tattoo. I was 1877 01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:36,360 special forces. Court told me anything. It's not to trust no 1878 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:40,920 one. Usually, only Korea, Marines get a moto, tat like 1879 01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:44,730 that. You should be clearing roads in Iraq, not hunting FBI 1880 01:51:44,730 --> 01:51:51,420 witnesses in Miami. Tell that to my squadmates, spectatorship and 1881 01:51:51,420 --> 01:51:52,410 drugs to the states 1882 01:51:57,930 --> 01:52:03,720 and that great, brother, I love that. It's like yeah, tell that 1883 01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:06,780 to my squadmates who spend all their time over there shipping 1884 01:52:06,780 --> 01:52:11,730 drugs to the states. Yeah. It's so blatant now. And that's why I 1885 01:52:11,730 --> 01:52:15,390 want to know who the who these producers are. Because either 1886 01:52:15,390 --> 01:52:20,670 they're there with us. Or, or the whole show is just you know, 1887 01:52:21,180 --> 01:52:24,450 a setup to just like make it normal for us. Like I you know, 1888 01:52:24,540 --> 01:52:26,700 I just tell them just tell the slaves that we're shipping the 1889 01:52:26,700 --> 01:52:27,300 drugs. 1890 01:52:28,740 --> 01:52:31,080 They don't think anything suspicious suspicious 1891 01:52:33,569 --> 01:52:36,119 about it. Yeah, it was on Burn Notice. I already knew that. 1892 01:52:36,119 --> 01:52:38,879 There's nothing new about that. That's normal. That's all cool. 1893 01:52:39,899 --> 01:52:46,019 Yeah, I thought that was a nice little ditty. You got a couple 1894 01:52:46,019 --> 01:52:48,089 more things. I wouldn't mind hearing him before we 1895 01:52:48,090 --> 01:52:51,480 cut out. Yeah, unfortunately. What are they you've 1896 01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:55,319 got his in quail. You've got AIDS. Not you. But you have a 1897 01:52:55,319 --> 01:52:57,869 clip called AIDS. You have tort reform? 1898 01:52:59,100 --> 01:53:00,840 clip, let's do the age one. 1899 01:53:00,870 --> 01:53:03,810 Okay. This is gonna bum me out. I don't want to be bummed out. 1900 01:53:03,990 --> 01:53:06,780 Well, what it is, is this, like an early you know, this is one 1901 01:53:06,780 --> 01:53:09,810 of the things we do on the show way we like people to send us 1902 01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:14,370 supported no agenda show.com or divorce.org/and. A, just to 1903 01:53:14,370 --> 01:53:18,900 throw an extra plug in is that we, since we did watch C span to 1904 01:53:18,900 --> 01:53:22,380 access every once in a while you catch it you catch an early 1905 01:53:22,380 --> 01:53:24,900 warning, you'll get one of these like, we're like NORAD, 1906 01:53:25,350 --> 01:53:28,290 we are where the nor atom of media assassination. 1907 01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:33,510 Yeah, so you can see stuff, you know, kind of being tested in 1908 01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:38,700 the market and or sometimes being discussed openly. Amongst 1909 01:53:38,700 --> 01:53:40,950 them, you know, like a kind of amongst themselves, but still 1910 01:53:40,950 --> 01:53:44,130 shown on C span in the den. And you know, 20 people watch some 1911 01:53:44,130 --> 01:53:47,700 of this stuff at the most. But so I caught this, this I don't, 1912 01:53:47,700 --> 01:53:52,050 I had to have the whole panel, but I decided only to play the 1913 01:53:52,050 --> 01:53:54,390 intro because it kind of says it all. And I can kind of explain 1914 01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:58,860 the rest faster than then they can blabber about it. There's a 1915 01:53:58,860 --> 01:54:01,080 guy. There's three people, one from the Council on Foreign 1916 01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,480 Relations. And this is a woman that runs some some odd 1917 01:54:03,480 --> 01:54:07,020 magazine. I've never heard of discussing the AIDS problem in 1918 01:54:07,020 --> 01:54:09,030 the around the world. And there's a couple of interesting 1919 01:54:09,060 --> 01:54:12,570 factoids that came up 30 million people out there have AIDS. 20 1920 01:54:12,570 --> 01:54:16,470 million of them are in Africa, right. And we are getting a lot 1921 01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:20,400 of blowback because we haven't increased the amount of money we 1922 01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,890 give to a zoo and the United States, by the way, provide some 1923 01:54:22,890 --> 01:54:26,760 like 80% of all the all the money to give people free drugs 1924 01:54:26,910 --> 01:54:30,630 for AIDS, and the Africans are now getting mad because you're 1925 01:54:30,630 --> 01:54:34,140 not giving more. And so it's becoming a political football. 1926 01:54:34,140 --> 01:54:37,230 And we're and from what I can tell, we're ready to pull the 1927 01:54:37,230 --> 01:54:39,780 plug on everything. 1928 01:54:40,109 --> 01:54:43,589 Good morning. I'm Susan dancer, Editor in Chief of the health 1929 01:54:43,589 --> 01:54:47,399 policy journal Health Affairs. And I want to welcome you to 1930 01:54:47,459 --> 01:54:51,149 this first in a series of debates on key global health 1931 01:54:51,179 --> 01:54:54,779 issues and controversies. Thank you for joining us. The 1932 01:54:54,779 --> 01:54:59,579 resolution we'll be debating today is this resolved, that the 1933 01:54:59,579 --> 01:55:04,649 US commitment to universal HIV AIDS treatment is unsustainable, 1934 01:55:04,979 --> 01:55:08,849 and decreases the US leverage and the nation's foreign policy. 1935 01:55:09,689 --> 01:55:13,769 Now, let us begin by stating the obvious. This is a painful 1936 01:55:13,769 --> 01:55:17,969 topic, because lives are at stake, potentially millions of 1937 01:55:17,969 --> 01:55:22,469 them. And understandably, the debate can get quite emotional. 1938 01:55:23,249 --> 01:55:27,719 We will all agree that the group of eights announcement in 2005 1939 01:55:27,719 --> 01:55:32,369 that member countries agreed to provide all those infected with 1940 01:55:32,369 --> 01:55:36,749 HIV access to life saving antiretroviral treatment was 1941 01:55:36,749 --> 01:55:40,829 among the most noble of actions. And what that meant whether it 1942 01:55:40,829 --> 01:55:44,339 was fully understood at the time or not, was keeping some 30 1943 01:55:44,339 --> 01:55:49,169 million people worldwide on ARV treatment for three or four 1944 01:55:49,169 --> 01:55:54,029 decades, if not beyond. That was very noble. But five years 1945 01:55:54,029 --> 01:55:58,469 later, that picture of nobility looks quite different. We will 1946 01:55:58,469 --> 01:56:03,689 all know that Donor Assistance in HIV AIDS is flat to falling 1947 01:56:03,749 --> 01:56:08,879 in 2009. The GA country's disbursements for HIV were $7.6 1948 01:56:08,879 --> 01:56:15,269 billion a year earlier, they had been $7.7 billion. And we also 1949 01:56:15,269 --> 01:56:19,109 know that given the global economic situation, this trend 1950 01:56:19,109 --> 01:56:23,759 is not likely to change anytime soon. Although the Obama 1951 01:56:23,759 --> 01:56:26,789 administration is working very hard to meet its other global 1952 01:56:26,789 --> 01:56:30,749 health goals, such as maternal maternal and child health and 1953 01:56:30,749 --> 01:56:35,489 neglected tropical diseases. It intends to keep its commitment 1954 01:56:35,489 --> 01:56:38,789 to increase the number of patients receiving every the 1955 01:56:38,789 --> 01:56:44,819 treatment under PEPFAR, to 4 million by 2014. It is however, 1956 01:56:44,819 --> 01:56:48,029 unclear if the US Congress is going to go along with that. 1957 01:56:48,839 --> 01:56:53,519 It's also clear that even if the US is somehow able unwilling to 1958 01:56:53,519 --> 01:56:57,449 deliver evermore increasing sums, to global health, and 1959 01:56:57,449 --> 01:57:01,499 specifically to HIV AIDS, it is not at all clear that much of 1960 01:57:01,499 --> 01:57:05,339 the rest of the world will go along. Now everybody can agree 1961 01:57:05,339 --> 01:57:07,919 that these circumstances are unfortunate. 1962 01:57:08,069 --> 01:57:11,609 Hmm. Well, before you say anything, I'd like to mention 1963 01:57:11,609 --> 01:57:17,129 two things. PEPFAR is the President's Emergency Plan for 1964 01:57:17,129 --> 01:57:19,679 AIDS Relief, which I believe George Bush set up and he was 1965 01:57:19,679 --> 01:57:22,949 actually heralded for setting that up. Yeah. But what's 1966 01:57:22,949 --> 01:57:26,879 interesting is this has been Clinton's thing. The Clinton 1967 01:57:26,879 --> 01:57:31,949 Health Access Initiative, known as Chai, which was actually 1968 01:57:31,949 --> 01:57:36,509 founded January 1 2010, is formally known as the HIV AIDS 1969 01:57:36,509 --> 01:57:38,969 Initiative. And I'm reading from the Clinton foundation.org. 1970 01:57:38,969 --> 01:57:42,689 website. This the numbers don't add up. Since its inception, 1971 01:57:42,689 --> 01:57:45,629 Chai has helped more than 2 million people access the 1972 01:57:45,629 --> 01:57:49,559 medicines needed for treatment, which represents nearly half of 1973 01:57:49,559 --> 01:57:53,009 all the people living with HIV and on treatment in developing 1974 01:57:53,009 --> 01:57:57,269 countries. How does that work? I thought you said it's 30 million 1975 01:57:57,269 --> 01:58:01,259 good. But so when these two guys show up, when these two guys are 1976 01:58:01,259 --> 01:58:02,369 together in something, 1977 01:58:02,550 --> 01:58:05,790 shysters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill 1978 01:58:05,790 --> 01:58:08,130 and generosity. I don't trust it. 1979 01:58:09,899 --> 01:58:13,109 So you say a political football I say a rip off. I'm not sure 1980 01:58:13,109 --> 01:58:16,679 how or why. But I just don't think these guys are genuine. 1981 01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:21,960 Yeah, I'm not gonna argue that point. I just, I'm just it. All 1982 01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:24,960 I saw was a little NORAD action here. There's something going 1983 01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:28,800 on. They're starting to pull the plug in on this thing. Africa's 1984 01:58:28,860 --> 01:58:31,680 is going to be targeted and large largely has to do with the 1985 01:58:31,740 --> 01:58:34,830 fact that the carping that's going on in Africa. One thing I 1986 01:58:34,830 --> 01:58:36,810 don't have in the clip, but they mentioned it the Gates 1987 01:58:36,810 --> 01:58:39,210 Foundation, it was actually Bill Gates that came out said this is 1988 01:58:39,210 --> 01:58:41,550 unsustainable. And they're thinking about, you know, 1989 01:58:41,550 --> 01:58:43,920 stopping something new. Oh, there's 1990 01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:47,340 another another one of our favorite guys. That will gates 1991 01:58:47,340 --> 01:58:51,090 will be the topic of conversation. And I'm sure for 1992 01:58:51,090 --> 01:58:55,530 many a show because of the Gates Foundation issues. Well, I 1993 01:58:55,530 --> 01:59:00,060 think you're absolutely spot on your, your douchebag radars 1994 01:59:00,060 --> 01:59:03,750 going off. And when you see the Clinton just changed the HIV 1995 01:59:03,750 --> 01:59:08,520 AIDS Initiative to the chai, as of January 1 2010. You know, 1996 01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:11,190 this is setup, you know that something is coming. So I think 1997 01:59:11,190 --> 01:59:14,490 you're right, oops, wrong one. I think you're right. We got to 1998 01:59:14,490 --> 01:59:19,770 keep our laser beam focused on him. And just some really good 1999 01:59:19,770 --> 01:59:23,220 news to end up the Postal Service. You know, there's a new 2000 01:59:23,220 --> 01:59:27,690 law you can't ship tobacco through the mail. This has now 2001 01:59:27,690 --> 01:59:34,800 been changed the cigarette Trafficking Act and of course 2002 01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:39,990 change so that starting August 27 military care packages with 2003 01:59:39,990 --> 01:59:43,680 tobacco can be sent using priority mail which ships to 2004 01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:50,040 overseas military addresses. And according to this story, the US 2005 01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:52,350 Postal Service initially said that you couldn't ship any 2006 01:59:52,350 --> 01:59:56,190 products but now as long as the sender and recipient are both 2007 01:59:56,220 --> 01:59:59,400 adults and it is not for commercial purposes, then it's 2008 01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:02,190 okay to say Then tobacco through the mail we'll find out as I 2009 02:00:02,190 --> 02:00:05,400 have some shipments coming from Gitmo nation east from Mr. Oil 2010 02:00:06,210 --> 02:00:11,580 of my favorite rolling tobacco. Good. Some good news for me. 2011 02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:12,840 Yeah. 2012 02:00:14,460 --> 02:00:15,600 Hey, support us something. 2013 02:00:15,630 --> 02:00:19,560 Yeah, support our show, please. divorce.org/na channel 2014 02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:21,780 dvorak.com/na. 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