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I'm so happy that we're gonna
kill 10s of 1000s of us. Here's

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my water. Mr. TSA, please take
my water.

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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It's September 10 2009. Time for
your Gitmo nation audio

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publication episode 129. This is
no agenda coming to you from the

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crackpot command centre located
in the minimum security

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containment cell under actual
threat of eminent domain in San

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Francisco, the United Republic
of California get mo nation

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West. I'm Adam curry,

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and from what appears to be a 99
degree weather day here in

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Northern Silicon Valley. I'm
John C. Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.

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Yeah, good to be back. John.

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Supposed to be hot today.

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It's nice though. I like it.
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it's gonna hit 80 in the city.

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It's perfect. I mean, that's
that's why you live here right

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for the weather.

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For the summer. That happens
anytime. But summer. Yeah,

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anytime but July. And actually,
July wasn't even that bad.

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No, this year wasn't bad. I've
seen worse. It was a little

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foggy during the fireworks as
usual. And but it wasn't as bad

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as some some of the July's
August is pretty flaky.

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I wasn't here for most of
August, so it didn't bother me.

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Yeah, well would have. So you're
back. You're settled and you got

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your machine hooked up. You're
ready to go. Ready? They didn't

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you must have been at dock in
time to see the Obama speech?

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Well, yes, of course. Actually.
I'd like to mention, first of

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all, that if I had not known
better, I would have said that I

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picked up a little bit of swine
flu on on the flight. I got

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back. And it may have been just
a combination of jetlag and some

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other stuff. But I was running a
fever

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the day before they let you into
the country.

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Oh, yeah. By the way, if you're
running a fever, don't let on.

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Don't Don't be like wheezing and
coughing because the KLM

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definitely will kick you off the
flight. That's documented.

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They've done that a couple of
times. So yeah, but just really

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a fever stomach a little bit
upset. Didn't you think I was a

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bit out of sorts when we had
that lunch the other day? When I

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was

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uh, ya know, you've been out of
shorts for the last couple of

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days. Yeah. When I was hitting
up the waitress. In fact, when

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you you were hitting up the
waitress, and you're in when you

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you're coming in? You're kind of
staggering. Yeah, exactly.

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I don't have a an oral or rectal
thermometer. But I was

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definitely running a fever. And
you know, and so I feel much

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better today. I feel really all
kinds of dust here. I haven't

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been around for too long.

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But I just picked up some bugs
on the plane. I mean, it's easy

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to get sick on these planes.
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funny thing is, you know, for
people who don't travel a lot

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when you all of a sudden, you
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you're travelling a lot. And you
actually, I think there must be

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a bunch of aeroplane airborne or
aeroplane diseases that are just

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common to people to travel.
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first start travelling, that
you're sick all the time, every

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time you go anywhere, it's like,

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and it's usually your nose and
throat,

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it's just yeah, it's usually
some minor things like that. So

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it's a version of the cold. And
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know, six months, a year, a
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you don't get sick at all, you

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kind of get used to it. But now
this is an interesting point,

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John, because we all know that
when you right now in these

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harrowing times, very troubling
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one virus ready to kill us all.
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see how our how incredibly
irresponsible, irresponsible, I

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tell you, our Congress was
yesterday. Oh, as I was

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watching, well, actually, I
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watching C span before the main
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when you really watch what's
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started speaking, it is just
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commercial breaks. Everyone's
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talking but hugging and kissing.
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President, our President to kiss
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not a Petri

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dish in I mean, what was that
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mean, it's a Petri dish for for
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that out of that entire room of
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guests because there were a lot
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one person can possibly have the
swine flu. I mean, the obvious

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answer is yes, of course someone
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they allow this and by the way,
I love I love HD. And I have

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never really seen this type of
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Shoulder smirking, and not just
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smirking. But how about the gold
baby? How about the designer

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threads? I mean, there's this
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I'm telling you, it's just like
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kind of unwritten rule,
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are allowed to wear red, because
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are really important.

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I wonder about that whether
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just do it because of the red,
the people wearing red and the

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women and by the way, these same
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worn red when they were in high
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No, certainly not after Labour
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And they I mean, they just
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read. I mean, because it's a
slightly colour. And so but they

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were in because there's a power
colour in Washington apparently

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or something or it's a way you
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like, oh, yeah, she's over
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you see Sheila Jackson from
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red with a big yellow thing
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amazing. This this like, like,
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So the ones that the red power
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Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary
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she had the pantsuit, the red
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the bottom but how could you
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Definitely, with more fabric,
let's say then Pelosi. And this

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Sebelius king. Oh

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my god. She was completely and
she was wearing jewellery, John.

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Oh, her earrings. Were so
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stretched down to her shoulders.

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So anyway, I thought it was
disgusting.

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Me too. And the whole show
because it is really a show.

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First of all, it started like 15
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your what's your might be play
The Dennis Miller thing. Right.

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Do you that clip right there.

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Hold on a second. Here we go.
Dennis Miller. This is from his

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appearance on O'Reilly.

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Yeah, I don't know much about
birth and babies. But I do know

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this when the six o'clock speech
on how government's going to

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tighten up health care starts at
650. Exactly. I think that says

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it all fabulous. This is this.
This is beautiful karaoke.

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And he's absolutely right. But
what got me even more is so what

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happens is first, and this was
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of the hour. Speaker of the
House Pelosi and reads Oh, wait,

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wait,

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wait, wait, play it play the
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you talk?

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Hold on, where is it? What's the
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Pelosi clip.

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I'll read the clip names. Debt
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escorts escorts.

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The Joint Session shall come to
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Right this is three minutes
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of the Committee on the part of
the house to escort the

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President of the United States
into the chamber. The gentleman

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from Maryland Mr. Hoyer, right

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so she reads off this entire
list of names and so these

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people who are already in the
chamber now have to go out

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through the lobby doors and then
they'll come back in again. In

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apparently in front of the
president who by the way stood

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in the doorway for at least
three minutes before he was

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announced by two dudes. Did you
see that? There's like two dudes

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now. Yeah, it's not just one
guy. It's it's like one guy says

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Ladies and Gentleman of the
house and then the other guy

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says the president of the United
States. Yeah. And he's standing

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there like a boxer you know,
kind of in the shadows and

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because he's very tall. And she
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was kind of shadowed off a

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surprise they weren't playing
music. The rocky receives they

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do the boxing match with the
lights go down. Exactly

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the wrestling match would have
been better. But you know, my

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personal feeling. And I like the
idea of a no nonsense president

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who Obama certainly pertains to
be in, wouldn't you just like

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come in, say, hey, right on
Let's rock. Let's go I got a

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message for you. I got something
to say boom, let's get right to

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it. No. Instead, we're steeped
in these ridiculous traditions.

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So after the escorts go out,
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the president's cabinet. That's
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and Sebelius and all the all the
other red suited women come in.

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And then there's applause all
the time. And then there's

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Applause Applause And then the
President comes in and he hugs

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everybody. St. Patrick's Day.

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And then he gets in, he gets up
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spot. And then there's more.
Thank you. Thank you. And then

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we have Pelosi who has to say it
is my high privilege and

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distinct honour to present to
you the President of the United

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States. By the way, why doesn't
anyone say the President of the

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United States of America, why is
it only the President of the

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United States? Is there a reason
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I never heard it. I don't know.
I never thought about it. She's

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still chatting in the background
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on Another thing that bothers me
to no end she's always saying

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something. She's always like
this. She's got these like half

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one liners. And she'll say it to
Biden, you know, and I wish I

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could lip read, although she
doesn't have a lot of lips to

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read, you know, because she that
she's saying something

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continuously this little like
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irritating as when Letterman or
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then okay, we're gonna go to
commercial and then they lean

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over to each other and they say
something that you can't hear

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because the mics are closed.
It's that annoyance that really

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gets ya know, I

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you know what, I agree with
that. And then actually

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Letterman does it when they come
out. He's he whispered something

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to him, like Obama did with
Hillary. Yes.

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Two things. He kissed her and
then said something and she

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laughed, and they yuck, yuck.
And of course, the mics are

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never on down.

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Ever. What's your Larry Sanders
Show? Yeah. So, uh, you know,

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they would actually, it was all
about that. Yeah, the

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conversation, there would be all
kinds of weird stuff. That that

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was the best part. Absolutely.
Absolutely. So yeah, so that

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stuff really, and watching a lot
of it in high definition, which

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means I did have to switch
between C span which is not high

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def. And I think I switched over
to MSNBC, which had a lot of the

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down on the floor camera feeds
they were using, except they had

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the annoying people talking over
it. So you couldn't hear

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that? Well. I actually was gonna
watch CNN. But then I decided,

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well, let's go mainstream. So I
watched it on CBS. I have a clip

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there, by the way, showing you
the shallowness of CBS, the

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Katie Couric clip, which is
during the beginning of the just

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before the speech began, if
you'd play that press to see how

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devoted he is to the issue, but
he wants conservative Democrats

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and Republicans to see that he
is out leaving the door open for

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a possible compromise. Another
big issue that has yet to be

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settled. Sorry,

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go ahead. I was just gonna say
we should mention that Mrs.

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Obama is standing beside Vicki
Kennedy, of course, the widow of

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Senator Ted Kennedy, whose
presence is so sorely missed

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during this health care debate.
Go ahead, Chip. I'm sorry.

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She's also with a group of
people that's just like eat

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entertainment when they do the
Oscars. Yes, that's the kind of

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colour commentary II does. When
when there's an award show.

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Yeah. And it's just like, you
know, enough already. This was

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billed as serious business. The
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Congress addressing the nation.
You know, I think we could do

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just do a little less of the of
the show around and just get

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down to business, do you and he
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this entire thing. He could have
cut it down significantly. My

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personal feeling, although Oh,

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yeah, no, it was too long. Yeah,
way too long,

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although as basically
representing brand Obama, I

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think he did a very good job.
He, of course, you can shoot

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holes in every single bit of the
speech. And I'm sure we'll do

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some of that during today's no
agenda. But in general, if I was

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just sitting there, and I was
just, you know, just Joe Schmo

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kind of concerned about all the
things I've heard, and I'm not

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going to townhall meetings, and
I'm not, you know, pissed off. I

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just kind of want to get on with
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care bill. I would probably say,
all right now guys seems to be

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on track. I think it was a
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story he had

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I thought it was a good. I mean,
for it was an Obama speech. You

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know, it was, it was well done.
I mean, I think some of the

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points he made were outstanding.
I think he did it well. And but

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you know, when you'd analyse it
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everything else, I realised that
Obama is one of those guys. he's

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reminding me of guys like Matt
Millen who was the general

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manager of the, of the Detroit
Lions. And he always reminds me

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of that I've talked about this
before, we had a publisher at PC

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Magazine for years at one of the
magazines who magazine was

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always failing to performance,
but this guy was the only guy

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that was never fired. So I go in
and visit with him because they

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would fire people that if they
weren't performing, but this guy

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was in forever. So I go in and
meet with the guy and I walked

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out of there I swear to god
thing, or whatever it was.

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That was great. Yeah, the guy's
cool. But then you go home, you

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went, Wait a

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minute. Wait a

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minute, this guy has buffaloed
me. And so Exactly. And Obama

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apparently is one of those types
of people. He has the ability to

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Buffalo in audience I mean, he
because he's a smooth talker.

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Face it, he is a smooth talker.
Yeah, totally. And when you and

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start analysing the speech, or
somebody else does who just

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hates him? Usually, there's
always somebody didn't want to

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listen to any of it. But they
start deconstructing it. You

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realise that in fact, yeah, he
didn't say this. In fact, there

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was a guy sitting in the
audience which nobody commented

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on you know, they even though
they come out the guy,

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the guy who always introduces
the bill that every session know

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guy who's not I don't know who
this what note, I don't know who

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this was because they never they
only focused on it for a minute

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on one of the stations and I saw
it twice and I saw it and the

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guy had a sign in kind
enrichment he had a sign in his

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lap that said, what Bill?

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I didn't see that. That's great.

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Yeah. And what in what it meant
meant, of course, was what Bill

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is Obama talking about? We're
talking about the Senate bill,

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the bill out of the finance
committee, the bill in the

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House. And nobody brought it up
that he's just generalising

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should technically have been
which Bill instead of what Bill?

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I think it said, what Bill, but
technically, it should have been

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which bill that would have made
more sense. I, you know, we can

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go through a couple of these
things. But I realised after a

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couple of people sent me this
article from The Wall Street

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Journal, that we've really been
focusing on the wrong things.

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You know, of course, the focus
has been on death panels, the

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focus has been on. Come on,
John. You know, basically, you

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know, killing grandma. Yeah, all
of that has really been a

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distraction. And it kind of hit
me this morning, after reading

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this article, I can say, I think
it's an op ed, I'm sorry. In the

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Wall Street Journal, by Mark
mix, and it's the title of it is

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read the union health care
label, subtitle, get ready for

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Detroit style labour relations
in our hospitals. And you and I

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both know, as we discussed many
times, that President Obama, of

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course, you know, the way
elections in America work, and

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this is this is no secret, you
get huge donations from from

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from special or just interest
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President Obama received more
money than anyone from Wall

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Street. Well, he basically took
care of them with all the

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bailouts. So that was done, you
know, that's been repaid. And he

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got huge support and money from
the unions. And so now all of a

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sudden, it's starting to click
in my head, you know, so he did

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do a little bit of stuff for
Detroit, bailing out the or more

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or less bailing out the the auto
industry, but really, the unions

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and this is something I need
your expertise on to understand

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that. The unions, of course, in
my mind, although I'm actually a

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member of a couple of unions,
are really about power at the

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end of the day. And from what I
understand from this, this op

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ed, and there are a couple other
articles that we probably should

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discuss that go along with it.
What a lot of the health care

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bill, if we're talking about HR
3200, which was, you know, I

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think the one that everyone's is
usually analysing and talking

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about section 225, a Grants
Secretary of Health and Human

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Services, Kathleen Sebelius,
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authority to regulate health
care workers under the public

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health insurance option.
Monopoly bargaining, and

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compulsory union dues may
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standard, resulting in
potentially hundreds of 1000s of

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doctors and nurses across the
country being forced into

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unions. So now Should I start to
click in my head, I'm like, Oh,

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of course, this is why the SEIU
is at all these rallies, because

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the idea is to grow the unions
by forcing medical personnel

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into them. Well, that's an
interesting idea.

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And if you look at some of the
data, let's see.

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Consider that because that's why
the SEIU is so gung ho for this

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bill, because that's that's the
union that would benefit the

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most. And that's the union
that's directly associated with

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acorn.

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Exactly. So you've got all of
these big labour, I guess we

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talked about Big Pharma, big
labour is probably just as evil

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as Big Pharma in my personal
opinion. And of course, this is

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all about union dues. And you
know, I'm a member of AFTRA a

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member of sag. And really,
there's only really two reasons

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that well, there's three reasons
that you're a member of these

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unions. One, you can't get a gig
in mainstream radio, television

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or film, if you're not a member
of the Union. It's a catch 22

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For sag the Screen Actors Guild
because you can't get into sag

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unless you have a speaking role.
But you can't get a speaking

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role unless you're a SAG member.
So basically, you have to be

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nominated by the production
company, which is why it's very

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hard to get a gig in in film,
because yet you know, there's

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this kind of this catch 22
scenario. Then you have after

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the American Federation of
Television and Radio Artists,

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you pay it's you can get into
that no problem. You pay your

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dues, and what do you get for it
in return is a standardised

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contract. So you have the, you
know, the set fee for an hour of

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radio or an appearance on
television that's really broken

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down into into pretty minut
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When I really relied on it, you
got health care, which was not

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to be underestimated. But when
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television and film, highly
unionised, you've got to ask

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yourself, is it good or does it
suck? So I think personally, it

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all sucks. Tel Aviv sucks radio
generally sucks, you know, film

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is pretty much sucks. And this
is the result of I think it

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being unionised. There's huge
control over who is in it what

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they do and you basically just
pay these dues all the time. And

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they can tell you when to not
show up for work and strike.

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Yeah, so what's your point?

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I guess the question is,
although totally legal under the

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Constitution to Unionise is
unionisation a good thing? Do we

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want big unions in the United
States? Do we want our entire

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healthcare industry to be
unionised? What are the pros and

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the cons?

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Well, I don't like the idea of
the healthcare system being that

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unionised because obviously you
can then you put the screws to

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people. I mean, do you think
health care is expensive now? I

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mean, it could really go up and
it's not going to go down. The

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unions are going to help people
save money. I'm just fascinated.

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I just think I think unions had
their place in time. And that

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became, I wouldn't say they're
corrupt organisations, because

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I've been in various unions that
are actually quite useful. But

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generally speaking, I think
they're full of crap. They've

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promised stuff that they don't
deliver, and then they throw

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their weight around. And they
the guys who run the unions are

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spending too much money. The
dues are too high for what you

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get. I mean, you know, I mean,
yeah, once in a while somebody

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goes to this shop steward, and
you know, it gets some justice

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because his boss is a jerk,
which is the reason you know, a

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lot of these people join unions,
because you have a bunch of

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management, schmucks that just
make your life miserable. So

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what what's the point? Right,
yeah, but for the most part, you

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know, these things should be
taken care of some other way.

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But but but unions are with us.
And that's that, but now that

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you mentioned that unions
involved, this explains the SEIU

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being show for this thing. That
and you're right, I think this

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whole thing is a scam. That's
very interesting. You got me on

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that one.

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Well, there's a couple more
pieces to this. There's a piece

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of legislation that has been
passed by the House but has been

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stuck in the Senate for a while,
which has been totally not this.

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And by the way, none of this
unionisation stuff is discussed

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anywhere and not on CNBC, MSNBC,
Fox News or anything. So this is

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part of what I love about this
show. And and this was pointed

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out by our listeners slash
producers. And so now we're

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catching on Hold on a second,
let's look into this. There is

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something that has been
lingering, needing to pass and

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is still in committee or
discussion or god knows how it

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works. Known as the EFC. A, have
you heard of this? John? The

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Employee Free Choice Act?

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Oh, yeah, no, this right, this
is the one where they were they

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want to eliminate the secret
ballot.

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Right? The so they're calling it
the card check bill. So the so

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the idea

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is a free choice. It's like a
guy, you have a guy coming up to

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you and your house knocks on the
door. And he says you want to

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join the union. And they said,
Well, I'm gonna vote on it. When

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the ballot comes around. Now you
can vote right now you got to

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tell me right now in front of
the entire class is basically

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what it is. So and by the way,
I'm going to slip it in early.

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This is exactly exactly what is
described in Atlas Shrugged, I'm

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gonna, I'm gonna put this link
up, I gotta sell some of these

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books. This is exactly what is
described, where you no longer

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have the secret ballot, you have
to stand up in front of all of

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your your co workers and peers
and basically say, I disagree,

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which of course, is the
shittiest situation to be in. So

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they want to eliminate the whole
idea of a secret ballot. But

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there's a lot more going on
here. As a part of this, I love

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the name, Employee Free Choice
Act. As a part of this, if, as

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an employer and I am an employer
in the state of California, you

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will not be able to say or do
certain things under penalty of

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$20,000 to your employees. And I
know and I've run small

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companies, bigger companies,
I've technically had a so right

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now, I guess anything under 500
employees is from what I

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understand is considered to be a
small business. I've had a small

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and then either medium or large
business with 700 employees.

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What would you call the vet
Kendra's company then that he

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had to know a

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place? I would call that a hobby
is what I call that. You know,

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it's just not a good idea to
have employees decide how you

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going to run your company is
just not and that's essentially

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what it comes down to worse, I
think with with with what is the

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power that is being given to
government now, to rule over

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some of these union rules, ie
what Sebelius will be able to do

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is basically the government
being allowed to run your

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business that's that's the
simple breakdown of what it

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comes down to. And so now I'm
saying whoa, wait a minute. This

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This isn't isn't really about
healthcare. It's not really

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about insurance companies. It's
about total takeover of all

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business. So it's not socialism.
It's fascism. Yeah. corporatism.

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corporatism. Yeah, fascism and
same thing.

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Here's an example lashes. And
that's a good point.

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Well, here's an example of how
well unionisation works. From

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the federal times. We have
discussed that the US Postal

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00:25:33,270 --> 00:25:36,750
Service is in dire straits. They
have a deficit of $7 billion.

440
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,010
They've gone to Congress.
They've said, Oh, we've got to

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00:25:41,010 --> 00:25:44,520
cut down mail delivery to five
days a week. So of course the

442
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,480
Postal Service is unionised.
Well, it turns out that they

443
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,610
have 1000s and 1000s of
employees who they have no work

444
00:25:53,610 --> 00:25:58,440
for, because their mail in mail
delivery is down by 12 to 15%.

445
00:25:58,650 --> 00:26:01,740
So what that literally doing
this is a great article, and

446
00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:05,640
it'll be in the show notes at no
agenda. show.com. They literally

447
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:11,430
put the employees into break
rooms, 12 foot by eight foot

448
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:15,870
closets, which the postal
service calls resource rooms,

449
00:26:15,870 --> 00:26:20,520
the postal worker employees call
it holding pens or blue rooms.

450
00:26:20,910 --> 00:26:25,530
They literally sit there for
eight hours a day doing nothing.

451
00:26:26,010 --> 00:26:28,950
Because they can't be fired.
They can't be laid off due to

452
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:33,150
the unionisation so that just
and I and also I believe Obama

453
00:26:33,150 --> 00:26:36,270
and the Obama administration
would never want these numbers

454
00:26:36,270 --> 00:26:39,510
to flow into the joblessness,
credit claims. So essentially,

455
00:26:39,810 --> 00:26:43,140
they're just sitting there doing
nothing literally 1000s of

456
00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:46,860
employees because there is no
work for them. Meanwhile, the

457
00:26:46,860 --> 00:26:50,220
taxpayer is being asked to bail
them out. Because they have a

458
00:26:50,220 --> 00:26:52,620
deficit because they have all
these employees doing nothing.

459
00:26:52,650 --> 00:26:54,180
It makes no sense to me.

460
00:26:57,810 --> 00:26:59,100
Interesting, okay.

461
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:02,790
So that is that is where
unionisation will lead to, I

462
00:27:02,790 --> 00:27:06,000
believe, because of course,
we'll have, you know, all kinds

463
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,720
of, I don't think we'll have a
doctors and nurses sitting

464
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,590
around with nothing to do. But
if this is the result, well, it

465
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:17,100
could. But if this is the
result, where the US Postal

466
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:20,160
Service is asking for a bailout,
but at the same time, they have

467
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,230
1000s of people who really just
aren't working, literally. And

468
00:27:25,230 --> 00:27:27,810
this is crazy. They're not
allowed to do anything in these

469
00:27:27,810 --> 00:27:31,230
break rooms. The you know,
because they technically are at

470
00:27:31,230 --> 00:27:33,180
work, so they're not allowed to
do and they're just sitting

471
00:27:33,180 --> 00:27:36,090
there this is this is gonna make
these people crazy. They're

472
00:27:36,090 --> 00:27:40,080
gonna go home and kill somebody
or go postal Yeah, go postal

473
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:40,770
totally.

474
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,750
So let's get Okay. So let's get
back to the speech. Okay, a

475
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,690
couple of things that I wanted
to I gave a bunch of notes to

476
00:27:48,690 --> 00:27:49,110
certain reason.

477
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,870
Before you do that, let's just
make sure people know exactly

478
00:27:51,870 --> 00:27:54,150
what this programme is all
about. Here's what we do.

479
00:27:55,770 --> 00:28:00,480
Our formula is this. We go out,
we get people in the mouth.

480
00:28:02,970 --> 00:28:05,400
All right, Johnny. Let's hit
someone in the mouth.

481
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,020
Okay. So I thought that, even
though I don't think a lot of

482
00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:12,420
people picked up on it, but I
was watching Obama's

483
00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:16,110
presentation and his prompter
use. He was flooding. Oh,

484
00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:19,620
he flubbed a lot of lines. He
realised several lines. Yeah,

485
00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:23,160
I think he was nervous. And I
think it

486
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,160
was nervous. I think also, the
speech was probably changed

487
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,180
multiple times. Because that's
usually the kind of mistakes he

488
00:28:30,180 --> 00:28:35,400
was making, like rereading a
line or saying, I will, instead

489
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,700
of I would, there was like a you
will, or you would think in

490
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:42,180
there, see more like a
formatting issue where you're

491
00:28:42,210 --> 00:28:45,360
you, because you read that you
read through a speech, it's

492
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,220
gonna be on the teleprompter.
And the best way to do of

493
00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:49,710
course, is to actually read I'm
sure he has a teleprompter in

494
00:28:49,710 --> 00:28:51,960
the Oval Office, because the
best way to do it is to actually

495
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,660
read it, because then you get
kind of used to the spacing on

496
00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:57,810
the teleprompter. Yeah, I
believe that some of the spacing

497
00:28:57,810 --> 00:29:01,110
changed. So when he was
expecting a new line to start,

498
00:29:01,110 --> 00:29:03,960
maybe it was It wasn't there, or
is already there. It was

499
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,070
clearly. For me, it was part
nervousness. And by the way, who

500
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:11,610
wouldn't be nervous? It was like
a huge gig, dude.

501
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,790
Yeah, he's done it before and he
looked less nervous before.

502
00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:15,090
Yeah,

503
00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:18,600
I think there were a lot of
changes over the past, probably

504
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,950
the past 24 hours.

505
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:24,600
Now also, I noticed that wrangle
that the guy in the audience was

506
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,320
glowering constantly about
something right I can't I

507
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,830
couldn't figure out what that
was all about. So But Richard

508
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:35,550
wrangles, that guy has a kind of
talks like this. I

509
00:29:36,450 --> 00:29:37,230
don't know who that

510
00:29:37,230 --> 00:29:41,520
is. Okay. Well, you would when
you saw him. He's a troublemaker

511
00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:45,360
and and then the up and down, up
and down, up and down. Applause

512
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,570
up and down and up and down.
Your guy was at a Catholic high

513
00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:49,050
mass.

514
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,710
Yeah, that's another part of
that. Just, you know, half of

515
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:56,070
the half of we should time it a
bit. Yeah, half of the entire

516
00:29:56,070 --> 00:30:01,110
show. Let's just call it a show
is applause It's just applause.

517
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,500
And every single, every single
Oh,

518
00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:08,370
and babies applause with a
standing ovation. Well, that's

519
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,270
that's what you're supposed to
do. That's idiotic. Yeah. Now

520
00:30:12,270 --> 00:30:14,700
then again, of course, on the
other side that Republicans sat

521
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:15,480
there, and so they,

522
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,900
they were not getting up a
couple of times they cut to them

523
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:19,020
and

524
00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:21,600
they weren't getting up. I mean,
some of them were kind of

525
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,900
intermixed, but the 90% of the
times they weren't getting up

526
00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:29,370
and, and but the CBS would cut,
you know, Obama would say

527
00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:31,710
something, and the Democrats
would go crazy and clap and they

528
00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:35,430
cut usually that Bomer guys, the
guy they had the camera on, or

529
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:39,750
Boehner or whatever his name is
a painter, painter. They he

530
00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:41,940
because he'd had his arms
folded, and he looked gruff. And

531
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:45,540
so they so they So Obama says,
it's for the good of the nation,

532
00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:47,400
and for the good of the
children, and then all the

533
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,950
Democrats stand up and clap and
he'd be sitting there with his

534
00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:52,770
arms folded, and they make him
look like an idiot. What do you

535
00:30:52,770 --> 00:30:58,950
hate kids? Yeah, so I thought
that was just very, you know,

536
00:30:59,250 --> 00:31:03,990
you know, kind of slanted covers
CBS, and NBC is, you know,

537
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,100
they're over the top with this
kind of thing. Anyway, so then

538
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:11,520
they had the one moment, of
course, in that where they were

539
00:31:11,550 --> 00:31:15,720
Obama starts talking about,
about the illegal aliens,

540
00:31:15,810 --> 00:31:19,620
illegal aliens, and they get
booed. First he gets booed. Some

541
00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:22,950
guy yells lies, this guy will
say, yeah. Oh, that was Wilson.

542
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:27,540
Yeah. Yeah. And so Pelosi and
Biden, look over there and glare

543
00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:28,290
at yes, we're

544
00:31:28,290 --> 00:31:32,610
going to give you two to the
head, you dick. They're on the

545
00:31:32,610 --> 00:31:36,060
list. You're on the list now.
Yeah.

546
00:31:36,090 --> 00:31:40,890
Now. There was a couple of
things. He had a he I have to

547
00:31:40,890 --> 00:31:43,860
give him kudos on one analogy
that I thought was really a

548
00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:46,170
winner, because I haven't heard
it before. And I always he was

549
00:31:46,170 --> 00:31:49,650
specially written for this
speech, where he's talking about

550
00:31:49,650 --> 00:31:54,300
private health care, insurance,
and then the public option. And

551
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:57,960
he uses the analogy that just
because there there are public

552
00:31:58,020 --> 00:32:00,600
universities doesn't mean
there's no more private

553
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,690
universities, they do compete in
the real world. And I thought

554
00:32:03,690 --> 00:32:06,870
that was like a really good
analogy. Yeah.

555
00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:09,270
Although it made me immediately
think of our discussion from the

556
00:32:09,270 --> 00:32:13,200
last show where all these public
universities are making off with

557
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,940
tonnes of dough. They're ripping
us and ripping us off, but okay,

558
00:32:17,940 --> 00:32:20,310
yeah, the analogy was there, but
that's immediately I thought of

559
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:21,690
like, Oh, my God, man. Yeah,
that

560
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:24,120
means everyone's gonna rip us
off instead of just a private

561
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,880
universities ripping us off,
you'll be getting ripped off by

562
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:33,090
the government, too. But it's I
still thought it was good. And I

563
00:32:33,090 --> 00:32:36,990
got some of the notes which I'll
go through. But he did bring up

564
00:32:36,990 --> 00:32:39,450
a little bit of Mel pray he got
some he finally got the

565
00:32:39,450 --> 00:32:40,170
Republicans.

566
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,230
Yeah, the tort reform, he got to
kind of slipped it in this kind

567
00:32:43,230 --> 00:32:43,590
of stuff, the

568
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:46,380
little tort reform idea in
there. And

569
00:32:47,370 --> 00:32:52,800
just a quick explanation of tort
reform would basically be a

570
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,930
limit. Not really a limit,

571
00:32:54,930 --> 00:32:57,570
but a cap on a cap on
malpractice, like we have in the

572
00:32:57,570 --> 00:32:58,560
state of California. Well, it's

573
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,260
not really going to be a cap,
but it's going to be if you

574
00:33:01,260 --> 00:33:04,140
lose, if you bring a lawsuit,
which apparently would be

575
00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:07,770
frivolous, then you would have
to pay the legal fees of the of

576
00:33:07,770 --> 00:33:08,760
the defending party.

577
00:33:08,850 --> 00:33:12,330
Yeah, well, hopefully they'd be
kept to. So anyway, the one but

578
00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:15,150
anyway, before the show that
everybody Lou Dobbs, and

579
00:33:15,150 --> 00:33:17,910
everybody, we're going over the
pieces of the speech that they

580
00:33:17,910 --> 00:33:22,380
had passed out to the media, and
one of the observers said, Well,

581
00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:24,480
you know, anything that they
pass out in advance has got

582
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,210
something in it. That is some
you know, that there's some

583
00:33:27,210 --> 00:33:29,970
thematic thing you have to check
into. But one of the guys

584
00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:34,290
pointed out a little catchphrase
that apparently Obama has been

585
00:33:34,290 --> 00:33:37,410
using, I haven't caught it. But
he pointed it out. And it was

586
00:33:37,410 --> 00:33:41,220
used in the speech. And it's
when he's talking about you

587
00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:44,850
know, some trend or something.
He uses the term. Not this time,

588
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,080
not now.

589
00:33:46,170 --> 00:33:50,580
Yeah, it was he actually started
off with that which by the way,

590
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,660
the news outlets clearly had the
speech before the speech started

591
00:33:54,660 --> 00:33:58,560
because I saw that quote,
already rolling on lower thirds

592
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,430
on the scroll before the
President even walked into the

593
00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:05,850
into the chambers. So the idea
was you said this has been

594
00:34:05,850 --> 00:34:09,540
brought up by many many
presidents you know, and and

595
00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:11,970
it's going to stop with me
essentially, but they had they

596
00:34:11,970 --> 00:34:14,370
had the speech before it started

597
00:34:14,370 --> 00:34:16,980
as well. My understanding only
had pieces of it it didn't have

598
00:34:17,130 --> 00:34:17,490
Oh, of

599
00:34:17,489 --> 00:34:19,649
course, that of course give the
news media that short. The

600
00:34:19,649 --> 00:34:21,869
choice sound bites the quotes,
of course, yeah.

601
00:34:21,899 --> 00:34:25,469
Now the thing that got me about
the speech was what was this Ted

602
00:34:25,469 --> 00:34:31,679
Kennedy death letter? He goes on
those of us who knew Teddy and

603
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,769
apparently got a death letter,
you know, a letter not to be

604
00:34:34,769 --> 00:34:39,629
open until I'm dead from
Kennedy, which was good reveal.

605
00:34:39,629 --> 00:34:42,359
Now, you know, it's like he's
the Pope or something. He's got

606
00:34:42,359 --> 00:34:42,659
some

607
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:45,269
he gets to open.

608
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,390
Is there a copy of that
available somewhere?

609
00:34:48,449 --> 00:34:51,089
I don't know. I think the whole
thing was a scam to be honest

610
00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:52,799
about it, but Well, it's

611
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,040
highly disputable. That's for
sure. Ted Kennedy death letter.

612
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,320
Let me just do a quick search.

613
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,130
But it was near the end of the
speech when he was pulling his

614
00:35:02,130 --> 00:35:05,130
Reagan style of public speaking
out with these personal

615
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,810
anecdotes about this person and
that person, Ted Kennedy's death

616
00:35:09,810 --> 00:35:10,200
letter. I

617
00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:11,789
want to know if you said
anything about Chappaquiddick,

618
00:35:11,789 --> 00:35:13,799
that's what I want to know if
that's the death letter, oh, and

619
00:35:13,799 --> 00:35:16,889
by the way, I totally boned her.
Something like that would be

620
00:35:16,889 --> 00:35:17,369
funny.

621
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,580
You can send your email to Adam,

622
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,679
please do. It doesn't matter.
We're not going to solve

623
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:33,119
anything. What's going on here,
John is it's a it's a mass. And

624
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:34,889
of course, we've been
conditioned this way. But

625
00:35:34,919 --> 00:35:40,829
really, we are in a mass vibe
of, oh, we everyone should be

626
00:35:40,829 --> 00:35:44,309
treated fairly. And we have to
have a beautiful world. And it's

627
00:35:44,309 --> 00:35:47,159
a it's part of it is your
generation's fault, actually.

628
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:51,599
And so we've been conditioned
into believing that we can have

629
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:54,779
all these things, and everybody
can live in peace and harmony,

630
00:35:54,779 --> 00:35:58,349
and an A can all be good. And no
one will, not only will we all

631
00:35:58,349 --> 00:36:00,959
be taken care of, but you
actually won't get sick and will

632
00:36:00,959 --> 00:36:04,769
fix everything. And that's just
not reality, you know, and we

633
00:36:04,769 --> 00:36:09,299
all have to chip in for the for
the poor sods. And this has been

634
00:36:09,299 --> 00:36:13,199
proven just not to work. It's
just not the way life works in

635
00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:15,869
general. And of course, you've
always got these, these

636
00:36:15,869 --> 00:36:19,049
characters in there who will
take advantage of this feeling

637
00:36:19,049 --> 00:36:22,349
this vibe that the universe
wants of everyone to be happy

638
00:36:22,349 --> 00:36:25,109
and live in harmony. And they'll
take advantage of that for their

639
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:29,939
own personal benefit, gain and
in power. And in this will just

640
00:36:29,969 --> 00:36:33,509
end in so in a in a couple. It
can only end in a couple of

641
00:36:33,509 --> 00:36:36,689
ways. None of them really
pleasant, but it doesn't work.

642
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:39,449
It just doesn't work this way.
You've got to have losers and

643
00:36:39,449 --> 00:36:41,519
winners in life. That's it.

644
00:36:44,340 --> 00:36:46,710
So the thanks for your

645
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:47,310
response.

646
00:36:48,809 --> 00:36:50,579
Thanks for the words of
encouragement.

647
00:36:51,059 --> 00:36:53,849
No, it's Atlas Shrugged. Read
it.

648
00:36:55,050 --> 00:36:59,760
So you know if you keep
mentioning it, I'll put a link

649
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,410
up with a link to my

650
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,280
Why don't you Why don't you read
it? Why don't you just take it

651
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:05,670
better to

652
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:08,610
do than read a book that I've
done a rewrite of a Fountainhead

653
00:37:08,610 --> 00:37:09,570
book in which I read

654
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,000
go read Atlas Shrugged. It's
different.

655
00:37:12,690 --> 00:37:16,500
So you read The Fountainhead?
I've started it. Yes. Sure.

656
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,520
I have started it.

657
00:37:17,550 --> 00:37:22,350
I document that. Yes. So I've
got this clip here called Obama

658
00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:24,480
school speech. What do you think
that is?

659
00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:28,920
Well, I would presume that is
about Obama's speech on

660
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,700
September 8 to the school
children have the right this is

661
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:39,540
Oh, yeah, this is a die. Whoa,
no clues in the title there. So

662
00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:45,690
who's this? This is like your
letter? I can't remember. Your

663
00:37:45,690 --> 00:37:48,780
death letters. Like, I gotta
remember. I gotta remember to

664
00:37:48,780 --> 00:37:50,940
say something about the school
speech. Okay.

665
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:53,730
Okay. So the schools because I
want to get that in before

666
00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:55,830
because we're I think we're
beating this other thing up.

667
00:37:55,830 --> 00:37:58,170
Yes. I got some other things to
talk about. This is an

668
00:37:58,170 --> 00:38:00,960
interesting little observation
that, you know, these these

669
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,530
right wing talk cable shows
which Obama condemned on his

670
00:38:04,530 --> 00:38:06,360
main school, which, really,
yeah,

671
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,700
he condemned them all. Yeah, it
was great.

672
00:38:09,210 --> 00:38:12,750
Which is just nothing but just
jack up the ratings. But anyway,

673
00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:16,110
so this is Hannity who like, you
know, by the way, the people out

674
00:38:16,110 --> 00:38:18,120
there should know that these
guys especially on the cable

675
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,200
shows, they don't really do it.
The two of us do more work than

676
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,890
those guys,

677
00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:27,090
and make 1/100 of the money.
Yeah, we

678
00:38:27,090 --> 00:38:30,210
make almost no money. But we do
all our own work. These guys

679
00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:33,180
have a staff of writers who dig
this stuff up, and they get some

680
00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:35,580
pretty good material. I mean,
the best example is Glenn Beck,

681
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,460
who used to do a radio show
where he was just yakking away

682
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:42,240
he's a dummy, to be honest about
it. But he's got with a staff of

683
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:43,620
writers. He's a genius

684
00:38:43,619 --> 00:38:46,409
and he looks like one gene away
from retardation.

685
00:38:46,769 --> 00:38:50,219
It's just not what you know, but
but tell you he's got good stuff

686
00:38:50,219 --> 00:38:52,679
because he's got good writers.
So this is a good example of

687
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,139
good writing, digging up
something very interesting. And

688
00:38:55,139 --> 00:38:58,169
then Hannity who can't really
say anything without having

689
00:38:58,169 --> 00:39:01,499
snide comments within the
sentence structure, which I find

690
00:39:01,499 --> 00:39:04,109
slightly annoying, but at the
same time, he gets his point

691
00:39:04,109 --> 00:39:06,389
across Play the Obama school
speech, I thought this was

692
00:39:06,389 --> 00:39:07,439
interesting. Today, President

693
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,990
Obama addressed schoolchildren
across the country now the

694
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:13,950
speech was praised by the
mainstream Obama mania media and

695
00:39:13,950 --> 00:39:16,740
drew little attention from the
Democratic majority on Capitol

696
00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:20,370
Hill. But as Byron York of The
Washington Examiner points out,

697
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,450
that was certainly not the case
back in 1991. On October 1 of

698
00:39:24,450 --> 00:39:27,870
that year, President George
Herbert Walker Bush spoke to

699
00:39:27,870 --> 00:39:31,470
students at a Washington area
junior high school, and unlike

700
00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:34,140
the Anointed One, President Bush
was slammed for holding the

701
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:38,190
event. Now the very first line
of a front page Washington Post

702
00:39:38,190 --> 00:39:41,670
article The very next day said,
quote, The White House turned a

703
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:45,120
Northwest Washington Junior High
classroom into a television

704
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,420
studio, and its students into
props. And that's not

705
00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:51,660
all. Well, and is there more to
this because I do want to say

706
00:39:51,660 --> 00:39:52,620
something about Yeah, he's

707
00:39:52,620 --> 00:39:55,320
got a couple more loyal pylons.

708
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:58,169
Well, what I did see some of
that what I found to be

709
00:39:58,169 --> 00:40:01,319
interesting when I looked at the
school auditor Orion is that

710
00:40:01,319 --> 00:40:04,799
over to the left, there was an I
don't know if this was by

711
00:40:04,799 --> 00:40:09,029
design, or if this is just how
it works in large crowds, but it

712
00:40:09,029 --> 00:40:12,119
seemed like all the African
American students were all in

713
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:16,499
one section, one section for one
camera shot. That's the way it

714
00:40:16,499 --> 00:40:19,949
looked to me if I were directing
this, which of course, this is

715
00:40:19,949 --> 00:40:23,579
highly produced and directed, I
probably would. If I had the

716
00:40:23,579 --> 00:40:26,069
same agenda, I probably would
have done the same thing. It

717
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:28,109
just appeared to me to be that
way.

718
00:40:28,140 --> 00:40:31,590
Democrats even call for a full
investigation on how the speech

719
00:40:31,590 --> 00:40:34,800
was funded. They held hearings
on the matter, and they forced

720
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,340
them then Education Secretary,
Lamar Alexander to testify

721
00:40:38,340 --> 00:40:41,820
before congressional panel. I
call me crazy, but I don't

722
00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:44,790
expect to see a similar story on
the front page of tomorrow's

723
00:40:44,820 --> 00:40:46,470
Washington Post. But we'll see

724
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:49,260
now they're always bitching
about each other. It's this is

725
00:40:49,260 --> 00:40:52,920
what tires me is the news media
complaining about the news media

726
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:54,030
isn't necessarily

727
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:59,129
good we do. We like yeah, you
guys suck. Well use

728
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:05,400
me. So no, no sooner had I
mentioned on Sunday show my

729
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,570
frustration about the so called
Liquid bombers in the United

730
00:41:09,570 --> 00:41:13,740
Kingdom. Seven. Yeah, the timing
is fantastic. Because of course,

731
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:17,790
they had been acquitted. All of
them had been acquitted, due to

732
00:41:17,790 --> 00:41:21,150
a hung jury in the United
Kingdom get get my nation east.

733
00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:22,470
What

734
00:41:22,469 --> 00:41:26,879
can I do to stop you before you
go there? Sure. Because I

735
00:41:26,879 --> 00:41:32,129
there's I have one note on this
pile of notes that I haven't

736
00:41:32,129 --> 00:41:35,609
eaten yet. That I haven't eaten
yet. And I just wanted to just

737
00:41:35,609 --> 00:41:38,309
for background for the public
out there because I realised

738
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:40,379
last night while I was watching
Obama's speech that there's a

739
00:41:40,379 --> 00:41:44,849
question I should have asked you
a couple of times in the last

740
00:41:44,849 --> 00:41:47,489
year and I haven't done it and I
think the public would be

741
00:41:47,489 --> 00:41:53,579
interested in just a quick take
on healthcare, public option

742
00:41:53,579 --> 00:41:58,709
health care in Holland and Great
Britain, both of which you have

743
00:41:58,709 --> 00:42:02,789
experienced personally Yes. What
about is it any good?

744
00:42:05,130 --> 00:42:10,860
No, the Well, no. No, in the
United Kingdom, no, it is not

745
00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:14,070
good. There. You wait an
incredibly long time for

746
00:42:14,070 --> 00:42:18,330
necessary operations, there are
a very long waiting list. It is

747
00:42:18,330 --> 00:42:20,880
of course good that if you just
want to go see your general

748
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,730
practitioner, you can get in you
can get an appointment, it costs

749
00:42:23,730 --> 00:42:27,570
you essentially almost nothing.
Oh, it cost you nothing. meds

750
00:42:27,570 --> 00:42:30,960
are, you know, five pounds,
regardless of what the actual

751
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,860
cost may be. So that part is
good. But if you are actually in

752
00:42:34,860 --> 00:42:38,370
need of something, forget about
it. I've gone private many times

753
00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:44,250
for my family, to get my wife,
ex wife, I should say, needed an

754
00:42:44,250 --> 00:42:55,200
emergency. At Pagon, Peck Dang.
Appendicitis removal. Okay, she

755
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,490
wasn't she was missing dough.
She was misdiagnosed for a year.

756
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,370
And then, you know, it was
really dangerous.

757
00:43:02,369 --> 00:43:04,859
And luckily, I remember when she
was misdiagnosed,

758
00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:08,700
and I was able to take her
private and, and, you know,

759
00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:11,520
considering her condition might
have saved her life, who knows

760
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,460
what could have happened if it
if your appendix had exploded?

761
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:19,920
That would have been pretty bad.
In in the Netherlands prior to a

762
00:43:19,950 --> 00:43:23,520
I believe a 2000. A change,
where there was basically a

763
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:32,220
single payer type option. And
the doctors and pharmaceuticals

764
00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:35,160
had limits on what they could
charge for services and

765
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,360
products. I think it was in
general reasonable. Although the

766
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,490
same applies the idea of a death
panel, the idea of, hey, you

767
00:43:44,490 --> 00:43:50,280
know what, you're basically at
the, at the end of your life, no

768
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,150
service for you that this is
just a fact of how the system

769
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:57,960
works. Now, they changed that in
2008, everyone had to go to a

770
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,050
private health insurance. And of
course, now that's out of

771
00:44:01,050 --> 00:44:04,320
control costs are rising. But
that was a test, right? That was

772
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:10,230
a it's a it's a beta test. So
pros and cons, if you're old,

773
00:44:10,260 --> 00:44:12,360
no, I mean, you're gonna die and
they're gonna let you die

774
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,270
because your usefulness has been
used up. That's the way it

775
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:19,470
works. I'm sorry. It's just the
system to be able to see a

776
00:44:19,470 --> 00:44:22,350
doctor and get your meds
cheaply. Very, very good. So

777
00:44:22,350 --> 00:44:23,910
there's, there's pros and cons.

778
00:44:25,260 --> 00:44:27,240
Although we don't have the
public you do have the private

779
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:28,770
backup though. I think that's a
good thing.

780
00:44:28,949 --> 00:44:31,619
Right. So And here's an
interesting thing. I just got a

781
00:44:31,619 --> 00:44:35,879
note from my I have worldwide
private insurance. I am not a

782
00:44:35,879 --> 00:44:41,099
member of of our company
insurance scheme. Because I have

783
00:44:41,099 --> 00:44:43,589
this you know, there's pre
existing conditions within

784
00:44:43,649 --> 00:44:47,069
within my family. So you know, I
don't want to mess that up and

785
00:44:47,069 --> 00:44:50,819
switch around. They just
notified me personally, because

786
00:44:50,819 --> 00:44:55,079
they had read in gossip
magazines that I have now

787
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:57,749
permanently moved to San
Francisco. They are dropping my

788
00:44:57,749 --> 00:45:01,649
coverage, even though it's
Worldwide health insurance.

789
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,750
Well that doesn't make any
sense. No, of

790
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:05,940
course not. But you know, I
think they're looking at the

791
00:45:05,940 --> 00:45:08,430
news and saying dude, that's
it's expensive over there. What

792
00:45:08,430 --> 00:45:14,700
if we don't want to insure that
guy? So anyway, back to back to

793
00:45:14,940 --> 00:45:16,260
the liquid bombers?

794
00:45:16,410 --> 00:45:19,440
Yes, the liquid bombshell. The
deal is that we you know, we've

795
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:24,270
been following these boneheads
and they got busted for

796
00:45:24,270 --> 00:45:28,020
something then out of the blue.
They apparently try them again,

797
00:45:28,020 --> 00:45:30,930
just to put it seemed to me the
whole thing was a publicity

798
00:45:30,930 --> 00:45:34,410
stunt to prove that they were
right about banning these 100

799
00:45:34,410 --> 00:45:37,080
millilitre liquids. And by the
way, I was watching on one of

800
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,530
the new shows, they actually had
some guy build one of these

801
00:45:40,530 --> 00:45:41,430
liquids bomb.

802
00:45:41,459 --> 00:45:44,879
I saw that and little a little
of like a vitamin water bottle.

803
00:45:44,999 --> 00:45:47,399
Yeah, and blew off the side of a
plane with it.

804
00:45:47,489 --> 00:45:50,399
Yeah, but you see them put a
little bottle in this, and I

805
00:45:50,399 --> 00:45:53,759
have the video linked in the
show notes. He puts a little

806
00:45:53,939 --> 00:45:58,349
plastic bottle of like goop in
next to a seat inside the

807
00:45:58,349 --> 00:46:01,949
fuselage of this fake plane. And
then they cut to the explosion,

808
00:46:01,949 --> 00:46:04,499
you know, there's no detonator
attached to this thing. You

809
00:46:04,499 --> 00:46:07,829
know, it was clearly whatever he
put next to that seat was not

810
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:11,459
what exploded. But that's
neither here nor there. So just

811
00:46:11,459 --> 00:46:16,079
to just to review briefly, all
of them were acquitted of the of

812
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:22,589
this alleged plot to take
essentially, what is the

813
00:46:23,999 --> 00:46:25,049
peroxide

814
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:29,189
or something Sunday, it was
pretty sketchy. Yeah.

815
00:46:29,969 --> 00:46:32,789
What is the what was the name of
the chemical, it's used to

816
00:46:32,789 --> 00:46:36,149
bleach your hair, Hydrogen,
Hydrogen, Hydrogen Peroxide, so

817
00:46:36,149 --> 00:46:40,859
they actually were in possession
of hydrogen peroxide, hydrogen

818
00:46:40,979 --> 00:46:44,669
peroxide. They did not have
tickets, they did not have

819
00:46:44,669 --> 00:46:47,609
passports. But yet these guys
want to get out of these planes.

820
00:46:47,789 --> 00:46:50,399
And they were going to blow them
up. So the jury could not

821
00:46:50,399 --> 00:46:52,469
convict them because there was
just not enough evidence.

822
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:54,900
And by the way, the number of
people they're going to kill is

823
00:46:54,930 --> 00:46:57,120
now up to 10,000. Right 1000s

824
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,830
of people. So no sooner had I
said, these guys had all been

825
00:47:01,830 --> 00:47:04,860
acquitted. And it was basically,
it's basically a retail scam,

826
00:47:04,890 --> 00:47:06,720
which I still believe it is
because of course, the

827
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:09,720
retailer's want to sell you a $7
bottle of water, they want to

828
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:13,590
sell you all this toilet
articles and aftershave and

829
00:47:13,590 --> 00:47:16,740
perfume, etc, all the stuff you
can't take with you through that

830
00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:20,820
one simple x ray machine. Which
by the way, I can take all kinds

831
00:47:20,820 --> 00:47:24,390
of wires and batteries without
any check whatsoever. And all it

832
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:27,870
takes is a little bit of
plastic, plastic bottle and some

833
00:47:27,870 --> 00:47:30,540
liquid and double A battery.
Well, I got tonnes of double A

834
00:47:30,540 --> 00:47:33,120
batteries, so they don't check
me for that. So they get

835
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,120
acquitted. Now, I guess they
don't have double jeopardy in

836
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,670
the United Kingdom. So they say,
Hey, shit, that didn't work.

837
00:47:38,670 --> 00:47:41,400
Let's just get another jury. And
let's just do it all over again.

838
00:47:41,730 --> 00:47:44,940
So then they're able to convict
three of these guys. And I'm

839
00:47:44,940 --> 00:47:47,910
thinking to myself, because of
course I get tonnes of emails

840
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:51,000
saying you're full of shit. They
you know, they were guilty, it's

841
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,210
good that we're gonna kill 10s
of 1000s of people. I'm like,

842
00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:58,350
what was the difference? What
happened between jury number one

843
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,610
and jury number two? And I have
found out what has happened

844
00:48:03,930 --> 00:48:06,840
during shell. Okay, so the rule
in the British courts are is

845
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:12,240
that you cannot use intercepted
material as evidence, ie emails

846
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:15,720
that you've that you've
intercepted. So they they did a

847
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:20,220
workaround. And they got these
emails to be introduced as

848
00:48:20,250 --> 00:48:25,110
evidence to the second jury, not
because they were intercepted,

849
00:48:25,110 --> 00:48:29,430
but they were taken off the
Yahoo email server in America.

850
00:48:29,610 --> 00:48:32,790
So there's a difference between
actually intercepting the email

851
00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:36,150
or going to Yahoo and saying,
Hey, dudes, give us these

852
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:41,190
emails. Okay. So that was the
trick. Now, here's the emails.

853
00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:45,330
And so this is what convicted
these guys, not the fact that

854
00:48:45,330 --> 00:48:48,300
they didn't have passports
didn't have tickets, hydrogen

855
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:53,280
peroxide with double A
batteries. I'm no chemist. But I

856
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,370
think you need a lot more than
the little bottle they showed. I

857
00:48:56,370 --> 00:49:00,060
don't know. It could be totally
true. There's, you know, who the

858
00:49:00,060 --> 00:49:03,780
fuck knows. But here are the
emails. And then here's what

859
00:49:03,780 --> 00:49:09,120
prosecutor said it meant Fourth
of July 2006. And by the way,

860
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,720
these are all emails to
Pakistan, okay. Not to

861
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:18,600
Afghanistan, not to Iraq to
Pakistan. Quote, listen, dude.

862
00:49:19,740 --> 00:49:22,890
When is your mate going to bring
the projectors and the taxis to

863
00:49:22,890 --> 00:49:26,850
me? I got all my bits and bobs.
Tell your mate to make sure the

864
00:49:26,850 --> 00:49:30,420
projectors and taxis are fully
ready and proper. I don't want

865
00:49:30,420 --> 00:49:35,670
my presentation messed up. The
prosecutor said that means taxis

866
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:39,450
were code for knowledge and
equipment because Ahmed Ali

867
00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:43,800
still needed some guidance. The
word presentation meant attack.

868
00:49:44,700 --> 00:49:48,870
Next quote. I spoke to my friend
he will soon sort the prices for

869
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:52,560
the telephones. Everything is
good is going good here. We will

870
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,130
need to send you some CDs and
DVDs over to you soon. Don't

871
00:49:56,130 --> 00:49:59,970
forget to call me. Prosecutors
said over the coming week

872
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,450
surveillance officers see
salwaar Ahmed Ali and Tanveer

873
00:50:03,450 --> 00:50:06,930
Hussain buying bomb parts,
that's the hydrogen peroxide and

874
00:50:06,930 --> 00:50:10,740
the double A batteries. The
prosecution alleges that CDs and

875
00:50:10,740 --> 00:50:14,850
DVDs is a reference to martyrdom
videos they expect to send out

876
00:50:14,850 --> 00:50:20,130
to Pakistan. Next, Hi gorgeous.
Well, nice to hear from you,

877
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,610
your friend can go for his
rapping concert rehearsal, but

878
00:50:23,610 --> 00:50:26,910
somewhere popular would be good.
Make sure he goes on the bus

879
00:50:26,910 --> 00:50:31,320
service, which is most common
over here. prosecutor said that

880
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,560
was said to mean that their
aides in Pakistan had given the

881
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,550
go ahead for a dummy run to test
airport security. The

882
00:50:38,550 --> 00:50:42,690
prosecution alleged bus service
meant domestic American carriers

883
00:50:42,690 --> 00:50:45,990
such as United or American
Airlines. And this goes on and

884
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:51,720
on and on and on. Now, I'm
sorry. But this is really taking

885
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:52,770
it a bit too far.

886
00:50:56,670 --> 00:50:59,700
Dude, that's an awfully
elaborate code. I mean, it

887
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:05,160
sounds like these guys are, are
experienced mobsters that are

888
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,700
talking to each other knowing
their phones tapped. And that's

889
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:11,190
when they were you know,
producing it. Why didn't you

890
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:13,080
know if you here's the here's
the question that I would ask if

891
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,570
these guys were sophisticated
enough to create this elaborate

892
00:51:15,570 --> 00:51:20,040
code. So they could do this kind
of a scheme. Even though like

893
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,920
you said they had no passports
or anything like that. Why

894
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,830
wouldn't they just encrypt the
messages with some sort of, you

895
00:51:25,830 --> 00:51:27,900
know, what TrueCrypt or all
these things and get on your

896
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:30,510
computers? I mean, they have
email. I mean, encrypting is not

897
00:51:30,540 --> 00:51:32,880
difficult to do. I mean, unless
they thought this was

898
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,460
encrypting. And he did you guys,
by the way, didn't look that

899
00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:36,030
bright.

900
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:41,160
No. And this is because we've
been conditioned by television

901
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:46,380
drama series that this type of
sleuthing and extreme deduction

902
00:51:46,830 --> 00:51:51,900
is, is valid, you know, so
forget the evidence. Basically,

903
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,870
these guys were convicted upon
these emails. Here's another

904
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:58,560
one. Hi, smiley emoticon. Got
some good news that will bring a

905
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,710
big smile to your face. I have
some nice files you will love.

906
00:52:01,890 --> 00:52:05,460
It will give you wet dreams
after you see it. Hahaha. I have

907
00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:09,540
15 suppliers to give Calvin
Klein after shave one box of 50

908
00:52:09,540 --> 00:52:13,260
is only 175 pounds, which by the
way, sounds like they're running

909
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:17,340
an illegal, immoral grey market.
Yeah, what it meant. According

910
00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:20,490
to prosecutors, this is the
first in a series of confusing

911
00:52:20,490 --> 00:52:23,670
exchanges over the prices and
quantities of aftershave and

912
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:27,930
stock buying. The prosecution
said this was all code for

913
00:52:27,930 --> 00:52:32,400
quantities and concentrations of
hydrogen peroxide commonly sold

914
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,550
his hair bleach, the chemical
was a key part of the bomb

915
00:52:35,550 --> 00:52:40,050
design. I mean, look, I fuck the
terrorists, you know, I want if

916
00:52:40,050 --> 00:52:42,600
any terrorist Fuck you, I want
to kill you too. But this is

917
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:48,810
bullshit. This is just bullshit.
I'm sorry. It's BS. And this is

918
00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:51,390
what these guys were. And it
doesn't matter because no one

919
00:52:51,390 --> 00:52:53,700
looks into this shit. No one's
going to look at what at what

920
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:55,860
they were actually convicted of.
It's like, oh, they were

921
00:52:55,860 --> 00:52:58,920
convicted. I'm so happy that
we're gonna kill 10s of 1000s of

922
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,300
us. Here's my water. Mr. TSA,
please take my water

923
00:53:06,539 --> 00:53:08,579
you should use that for the
beginning of the show.

924
00:53:08,579 --> 00:53:12,959
I will. Let me just let me just
mark it out time out time. Yeah,

925
00:53:12,959 --> 00:53:15,509
let me just mark it boom done
marked. Okay.

926
00:53:16,290 --> 00:53:20,010
Yeah, and I think your points
well taken. So as you guys are

927
00:53:20,010 --> 00:53:22,890
probably smuggling, you know,
cheap cologne that I mean? I

928
00:53:22,890 --> 00:53:25,770
mean, let's face it in Pakistan,
they use a lot of Cologne. And

929
00:53:26,849 --> 00:53:31,859
I don't want to generalise but I
just like to know, in order to

930
00:53:31,859 --> 00:53:36,059
make a an explosive device with
hydrogen peroxide, you know,

931
00:53:36,059 --> 00:53:39,989
what else do you need? And how
much else of it do you need? You

932
00:53:39,989 --> 00:53:43,649
look at that, that BBC video and
literally I have here a bottle

933
00:53:43,649 --> 00:53:48,359
of Vitamin Water is the exact
same bottle which is 20 fluid

934
00:53:48,359 --> 00:53:53,609
ounces. 591 millilitres is any
concoction of hydrogen peroxide

935
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:56,669
with a double A battery as
described by court documents is

936
00:53:56,669 --> 00:54:00,599
that enough to cause that type
of a ruckus and unless you're

937
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:05,819
transporting some type of highly
explosive fluid along with it,

938
00:54:05,819 --> 00:54:08,189
which probably would be too
would probably blow up if you

939
00:54:08,189 --> 00:54:11,819
dropped your bag. You know, can
you actually can you pull it

940
00:54:11,819 --> 00:54:14,459
off? I mean that's that's what
I'm interested in.

941
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,650
There are things you could do
with with by the way if you

942
00:54:19,650 --> 00:54:24,390
wanted to make a small bomb you
could do it with a hunt with 100

943
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:27,450
mil litre limit if you were
wanting to make some nitrile

944
00:54:27,450 --> 00:54:27,660
gloves

945
00:54:27,659 --> 00:54:31,739
so all you have to do is put you
know five different 100

946
00:54:31,739 --> 00:54:34,709
millilitre bottles of shit and
your little plastic baggie and

947
00:54:34,709 --> 00:54:38,189
it goes through and you're at
the same place this is no this

948
00:54:38,189 --> 00:54:40,349
is no no forte.

949
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:43,950
Yeah, no I agree it's not a two
word sport at all. They should

950
00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:46,770
either ban did just ban all
liquids. Tell people they can't

951
00:54:46,770 --> 00:54:49,170
bring anything on the damn
plane. Actually they'd like to

952
00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:51,540
do is just basically make sure
you go on the plane by yourself

953
00:54:51,540 --> 00:54:55,080
and they strap you down for the
whole flight. And you know and

954
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,800
then throw food in your face and
you know, maybe Fiji and Fiji

955
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,630
and then that gets you off the
plane Awesome. No knife for you.

956
00:55:04,590 --> 00:55:07,890
Yeah, that that in the plastic
knife. That's another classic.

957
00:55:08,009 --> 00:55:12,209
Yeah, I do like the KLM pilots,
though, whenever you fly to or

958
00:55:12,209 --> 00:55:14,909
from the United States, they
come on the intercom because the

959
00:55:14,909 --> 00:55:16,889
KLM you know, they're Dutch, you
know, they're a little laid

960
00:55:16,889 --> 00:55:19,829
back, there's smoke and Doobs,
up there in the cockpit. And the

961
00:55:19,859 --> 00:55:22,589
captain will always come on and
say, Oh, by the way, the

962
00:55:22,619 --> 00:55:26,999
American TSA has told us to tell
you, you're not allowed to stand

963
00:55:26,999 --> 00:55:30,359
around the toilets. It can only
be one person at a time. But it

964
00:55:30,359 --> 00:55:35,099
literally is like they've made
us tell you this. So we told you

965
00:55:35,129 --> 00:55:41,489
don't worry about it. Something
interesting, which of course,

966
00:55:41,489 --> 00:55:46,559
did not nor will it hit
mainstream happened the other

967
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:50,609
two days ago, I think, which is
worth mentioning. And I think I

968
00:55:50,609 --> 00:55:52,649
mentioned this to you the other
day, and you said no, I hadn't

969
00:55:52,649 --> 00:55:56,699
heard about it. So that means
that it not only has it not gone

970
00:55:56,699 --> 00:56:02,159
mainstream, it never will,
Charlie Sheen, teamed up with

971
00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:09,119
Alex Jones. And they kind of
played like a media hack, which

972
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:13,469
I don't think, I don't know if
it was really executed properly.

973
00:56:13,499 --> 00:56:17,309
It certainly got me for a
second, where apparently or the

974
00:56:17,309 --> 00:56:22,199
story that that was released,
was that Charlie Sheen had

975
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:26,399
requested a 30 minute interview
with President Obama, and that

976
00:56:26,399 --> 00:56:30,629
he was granted 20 minutes. And
then Charlie Sheen wrote up a

977
00:56:30,629 --> 00:56:35,039
transcript of his 20 minutes
with the President. And this 20

978
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:39,269
minutes included Charlie Sheen
presenting every single piece of

979
00:56:39,269 --> 00:56:42,959
what I would, by the way, deem
as credible evidence about

980
00:56:42,959 --> 00:56:46,589
government cover up and
government involvement in 911.

981
00:56:47,249 --> 00:56:51,029
And so it has his questions and
Obama's answers. Now, of course,

982
00:56:51,029 --> 00:56:54,179
this didn't actually happen. It
was just a, you know, this is

983
00:56:54,179 --> 00:56:57,359
probably what it would have been
in the whole idea is you go to

984
00:56:57,359 --> 00:57:00,839
this 20 minute interview. And
there's all these links of this

985
00:57:00,899 --> 00:57:06,149
credible evidence that it that
it was, quote, an inside job.

986
00:57:06,479 --> 00:57:11,909
And although I think a great
attempt to bring some attention

987
00:57:11,909 --> 00:57:14,249
to the matter now that we're
almost eight years after the

988
00:57:14,249 --> 00:57:17,789
fact, I don't think it's really
going to hit home. In fact, they

989
00:57:17,789 --> 00:57:21,539
even saw Bill O'Reilly like
called Charlie Sheen, a pinhead

990
00:57:23,459 --> 00:57:26,249
and just played a little audio,
quote, didn't even explain what

991
00:57:26,249 --> 00:57:29,939
what actually happened. What
what the whole what the whole

992
00:57:29,939 --> 00:57:33,839
scheme was. But I do think it's
interesting, you know, just to

993
00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:38,219
read through it, and to look at,
look at the different links. I

994
00:57:38,219 --> 00:57:41,459
think I've said many times that,
you know, I'm not an architect.

995
00:57:41,459 --> 00:57:45,749
I don't know about thermite. I
do know about aviation, and as

996
00:57:45,749 --> 00:57:49,589
long as the official 911
commission report contains

997
00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:54,989
extremely incorrect information
about aviation and what

998
00:57:54,989 --> 00:58:01,379
aeroplanes can do, I don't
believe any of it. We know that.

999
00:58:03,329 --> 00:58:12,329
So I have a jingle for that
someone sent me. CC sad I love I

1000
00:58:12,329 --> 00:58:14,879
love it. No, that's fantastic.

1001
00:58:21,659 --> 00:58:23,909
W TC seven won't go away.

1002
00:58:24,210 --> 00:58:29,160
W TC seven won't go away. That's
one thing for sure. So here's an

1003
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,460
interesting story. There's your
government at work again. What

1004
00:58:32,460 --> 00:58:35,880
was the price of that website?
They're doing recovery.gov. It's

1005
00:58:36,059 --> 00:58:39,299
that was? Well, there's two
prices we know now it was $18

1006
00:58:39,299 --> 00:58:45,689
million for recovery.gov and $53
million to secure the T essays,

1007
00:58:45,959 --> 00:58:47,519
computer infrastructure.

1008
00:58:48,869 --> 00:58:52,619
Well generated dynamische is one
a $10 million contract to

1009
00:58:52,619 --> 00:58:56,789
develop a network of websites
aimed at influencing foreign

1010
00:58:56,789 --> 00:59:00,569
audiences in support of the US
Special Operations Command.

1011
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:05,999
Okay, how does that work? A $10
million. Can we just set up a

1012
00:59:05,999 --> 00:59:11,759
WordPress blog for that? I mean,
please. It's a one year deal.

1013
00:59:11,789 --> 00:59:14,279
You got to send me that link. I
want to put that as a short

1014
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,090
12 month option periods which
means that you get more money oh

1015
00:59:18,090 --> 00:59:22,020
yay for work on the trans
regional is a good one. I liked

1016
00:59:22,020 --> 00:59:27,090
this term, trans trans regional
web initiative. A plan to

1017
00:59:27,090 --> 00:59:32,070
synchronise all US Combat
Command websites designed to win

1018
00:59:32,070 --> 00:59:33,810
hearts and minds.

1019
00:59:34,769 --> 00:59:38,759
It's a love fest. A love fest
contract.

1020
00:59:38,909 --> 00:59:40,799
I mean the original what's his
general Okay, here's the

1021
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:44,279
question on my mind. What the
hell's General Dynamics doing

1022
00:59:44,279 --> 00:59:47,729
developing website jet maker
something

1023
00:59:48,420 --> 00:59:50,940
it's well you know, they've got
this intern programme and they

1024
00:59:50,940 --> 00:59:53,850
need the the interns to do
something so they decided that

1025
00:59:53,850 --> 00:59:57,390
this would be a good one for
him. It's horse crap John.

1026
00:59:59,579 --> 01:00:02,219
Just said They're just gonna job
it out to somebody anyway and

1027
01:00:02,219 --> 01:00:03,389
take five of course.

1028
01:00:03,390 --> 01:00:06,540
Yeah, just give it to some, you
know, two man shop to build, of

1029
01:00:06,540 --> 01:00:07,080
course.

1030
01:00:07,979 --> 01:00:09,509
Why don't we, you know, this
deals

1031
01:00:09,540 --> 01:00:11,910
because we're too busy
complaining about not being in

1032
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:12,810
on these deals.

1033
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:16,679
United States Department of
Agriculture agreed last week to

1034
01:00:16,709 --> 01:00:21,329
buy an additional $30 million
worth 30 million by the way

1035
01:00:21,509 --> 01:00:27,029
worth of pork from the ailing
pork industry, for a total of

1036
01:00:27,029 --> 01:00:32,249
$151 million purchased this year
to compensate the suppose it

1037
01:00:32,249 --> 01:00:34,979
damage run from the minds of the
swine flu.

1038
01:00:35,010 --> 01:00:36,300
Yeah, I've heard about this.

1039
01:00:38,039 --> 01:00:42,209
You did it? Well, this tells you
as to how stupid the public is.

1040
01:00:42,689 --> 01:00:46,739
Oh, my God, you can eat pork,
you'll get a swine flu. Yeah.

1041
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,110
Yeah. And your point is, a lot
of people have sent me this

1042
01:00:52,110 --> 01:00:54,270
link, and I'm not quite sure
what to make of it. I will do

1043
01:00:54,270 --> 01:00:57,870
some more investigation. But in
the past three days, there's

1044
01:00:57,870 --> 01:01:04,170
been like, 50 small aircraft
incidents. When people are

1045
01:01:04,170 --> 01:01:08,430
saying that something weird is
going on? I'm not quite sure. In

1046
01:01:08,430 --> 01:01:12,720
the US alone. That is. So I'm
just making mention of it. Which

1047
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,030
means that our listeners
producers will send me more

1048
01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:18,240
information. I can Yeah, we need
some help. Yeah, but it is

1049
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,030
interesting. It is higher than
average. I mean, you know, then

1050
01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:23,250
there's incidents and there's
incidents, you know, there's

1051
01:01:23,490 --> 01:01:26,340
there's just dumb stuff that
happens. But that could be a

1052
01:01:26,340 --> 01:01:29,490
number of things. It could be
the for all I care, it could be

1053
01:01:29,490 --> 01:01:32,910
this the state of the moon, you
know, affecting people's brains

1054
01:01:32,910 --> 01:01:36,180
and taking an idiot pill doing
stupid stuff. It's not like all

1055
01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:40,860
crashes and stuff. But it is
worth mentioning that there's

1056
01:01:40,890 --> 01:01:44,190
that is definitely an
interesting coincidence.

1057
01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:48,899
So I've got another clip here I
want to play which is I was

1058
01:01:48,899 --> 01:01:53,009
actually even though this was I
think O'Reilly did this one. It

1059
01:01:53,009 --> 01:01:56,849
was taken as a kind of a light
hearted thing. I was actually

1060
01:01:56,849 --> 01:02:01,049
distressed by this story,
because I don't understand why.

1061
01:02:01,649 --> 01:02:06,569
What he was going to explain
actually takes place hit NBC

1062
01:02:06,569 --> 01:02:07,079
store.

1063
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:10,259
NBC News continues to support
the president just about every

1064
01:02:10,259 --> 01:02:14,519
way. I love that. Their
headquarters in Manhattan, the

1065
01:02:14,519 --> 01:02:21,509
NBC store is selling Obama
merchandise, doll shirts, mugs,

1066
01:02:21,899 --> 01:02:25,949
you can get them all at the NBC
store. Didn't see any Sarah

1067
01:02:25,949 --> 01:02:26,969
Palin stuff there.

1068
01:02:26,969 --> 01:02:31,259
I didn't see bold, fresh, but
they may have been sold out. You

1069
01:02:31,259 --> 01:02:34,229
know, this is a story from I
think it's at least three or

1070
01:02:34,229 --> 01:02:36,869
four weeks old. I remember
people sending me the link. And

1071
01:02:36,869 --> 01:02:39,179
I was like, Well, yeah, so what
you know,

1072
01:02:39,539 --> 01:02:42,899
find it distressing to head that
a network that's a news

1073
01:02:42,899 --> 01:02:47,519
organisation behind it is got
this kind of stuff for sale. I

1074
01:02:47,519 --> 01:02:51,329
mean, what is the point? Are
they are they boosters for the

1075
01:02:51,359 --> 01:02:52,499
President's with the deal as

1076
01:02:52,530 --> 01:02:55,320
well, I don't know if it's any
more distressing that Obama Chia

1077
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:56,940
Pet commercial I see running
everywhere.

1078
01:02:57,059 --> 01:02:58,079
I love that one.

1079
01:02:59,190 --> 01:03:02,310
That's like the old Obama.

1080
01:03:03,059 --> 01:03:06,029
I've been trying to catch that
one. So I could get it. I keep

1081
01:03:06,029 --> 01:03:06,599
missing it. I

1082
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,560
do see, I presume looking at the
title of this clip debt stinks

1083
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,080
that you caught the same
commercial that I did.

1084
01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:15,839
Yes. This commercial has been on
over and over again. And so but

1085
01:03:15,839 --> 01:03:18,779
and the problem with this
commercial we can play it. Which

1086
01:03:18,809 --> 01:03:23,129
by the way, if you watch the
Glenn now Glenn Beck but Lou

1087
01:03:23,129 --> 01:03:26,339
Dobbs, he has apparently not I
don't know if anybody's

1088
01:03:26,339 --> 01:03:30,659
sponsoring his show at all. It's
all you know, either unions or,

1089
01:03:30,839 --> 01:03:34,289
or special interest groups.
There's no companies. And I

1090
01:03:34,289 --> 01:03:36,989
think he's like, I think they
bailed out on him or some I

1091
01:03:36,989 --> 01:03:39,119
think it's weird, almost like
public service announcements.

1092
01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:43,559
But this ad has been floating
around. The punch line is debt

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01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:45,899
stinks at the end you get but
the problem is, is very poorly

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01:03:45,899 --> 01:03:48,419
produced. You can hardly hear
the kids, but they are doing the

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01:03:48,419 --> 01:03:52,499
pledge of allegiance to
America's debt. I love it. You

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01:03:52,499 --> 01:03:55,949
can kind of catch the words. If
somebody out there can can give

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01:03:55,949 --> 01:03:59,789
us a transcript of the words
we'll put it on the show notes.

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01:03:59,789 --> 01:04:00,569
But once you play it.

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01:04:18,570 --> 01:04:22,080
American taxpayers owe more than
500 million in interest payments

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01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,840
every day to cover our
government's debt. Much of that

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01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,720
debt is owed to foreign
governments go to defeat the

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01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:27,960
debt

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01:04:29,429 --> 01:04:34,499
stinks. debts. Thanks. Have you
gone to defeat the debt.com?

1104
01:04:34,499 --> 01:04:39,719
Maybe? Yeah, that would be the
first place to look defeat the

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01:04:39,989 --> 01:04:41,639
debt.com

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01:04:41,969 --> 01:04:45,779
damage. I pledge allegiance to
the debt. Some of the Chinese

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01:04:45,779 --> 01:04:51,479
government who own this Chinese
government to its own I mean,

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01:04:51,479 --> 01:04:53,249
the whole thing is hilarious
interest

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01:04:53,250 --> 01:04:57,420
compound ended. Okay, so there's
a lot. Well, let's look through

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01:04:57,420 --> 01:04:59,970
this because I think they've got
a lot of different a lot of

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,860
different versions of this
commercial so we can probably

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01:05:01,860 --> 01:05:06,240
get a better, better version of
it. Well, first of all, yeah. I

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01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,940
mean, have you seen what's
what's been happening? You know,

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01:05:09,750 --> 01:05:12,810
as I was reading through, I
think either Wall Street Journal

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01:05:12,810 --> 01:05:16,230
of Financial Times. And you
know, we're right now at a

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01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:19,470
double whammy for the dollar. So
at the very moment where people

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01:05:19,470 --> 01:05:21,960
are saying, hey, wait a minute,
let's get out of this dollar.

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01:05:22,170 --> 01:05:25,530
And by the way, they seem to be
going to gold, I might want to

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01:05:25,530 --> 01:05:29,670
point out at this, at the same
time, this is happening, of

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01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:33,630
course, we're printing up
massive amounts of dollars, so

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01:05:33,630 --> 01:05:36,780
that what you can happen is that
it devalues and I'm just

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01:05:36,780 --> 01:05:41,040
thinking to myself, you know,
Ben Bernanke, he was so much the

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01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:45,270
right guy to have in the Federal
Reserve, because if you really

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01:05:45,270 --> 01:05:48,510
want to blow up the economy
implode everything you want to

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01:05:48,510 --> 01:05:52,020
have the guy who was an expert
on the Great Depression. It is

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01:05:52,020 --> 01:05:57,210
textbook, it is exactly it's the
same blueprint, exactly the same

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01:05:57,210 --> 01:06:00,600
thing that happened is taking
place now. And Ben Bernanke with

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01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:05,490
Alan Greenspan, preceding him,
and Timmy Geithner now carrying

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01:06:05,490 --> 01:06:09,240
the baton, it's happening and
the dollar is going to drop more

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01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:14,130
and more, it's now $1 $44.45 per
euro is going to go to they're

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01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,100
already predicting $1.50. Of
course, what that does, on the

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01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:20,940
other hand, is it makes your oil
go up. It's now 70 to 73 bucks,

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01:06:21,210 --> 01:06:26,160
you know, at a time where we
have no jobs. It's and and we

1134
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,070
are just spending and spending
and spending money that we don't

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01:06:29,070 --> 01:06:33,180
have. I mean, it's like duck use
said the legendary words to me

1136
01:06:33,180 --> 01:06:36,750
the other day at lunch, hey,
this economy doesn't look good.

1137
01:06:40,110 --> 01:06:42,810
Doesn't doesn't seem like it's
gonna be real good.

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01:06:43,889 --> 01:06:49,109
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs.

1139
01:06:52,619 --> 01:06:54,749
So here's another thing that's
depressing play the in

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01:06:54,749 --> 01:06:58,469
Afghanistan clip, this is a guy
this is a piece of a story that

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01:06:58,469 --> 01:07:03,119
was run on the network news. Er,
and they're getting they're out

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01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:05,429
in the field in Afghanistan,
they found some Oh, this is

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01:07:05,429 --> 01:07:07,709
actually on 60 minutes. I'm
sorry, this was on 60 minutes.

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01:07:07,889 --> 01:07:10,499
And they're talking to this guy
who casually said something that

1145
01:07:10,499 --> 01:07:13,559
I thought was like, course, they
never question it or say what,

1146
01:07:13,829 --> 01:07:15,059
but just play this short.

1147
01:07:15,449 --> 01:07:18,989
For the captain scene here
putting out the flames moments

1148
01:07:18,989 --> 01:07:23,699
after the blast. It was the
bloodiest day, so far. Nothing's

1149
01:07:23,699 --> 01:07:25,619
easy. It's gonna be a long
fight. I'm

1150
01:07:25,620 --> 01:07:27,540
not telling you that it's gonna
be it's gonna happen tomorrow.

1151
01:07:27,540 --> 01:07:29,730
I'm not gonna tell you. It's
gonna happen next year. But you

1152
01:07:29,730 --> 01:07:32,250
know, it might be 1215 years
from now. And we're still in

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01:07:32,250 --> 01:07:32,910
Afghanistan.

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01:07:34,050 --> 01:07:40,140
Right? Well, so I'm glad you
bring this up. So of course,

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01:07:40,140 --> 01:07:43,950
this is the necessary war, as
our president calls it, it's

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01:07:43,950 --> 01:07:46,530
necessary. And there's lots of
questions about it and

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01:07:48,210 --> 01:07:49,590
why it's necessary. Oh, it's

1158
01:07:49,590 --> 01:07:55,020
necessary, because this is where
Al Qaeda stems from Bin Laden is

1159
01:07:55,020 --> 01:07:58,560
still holed up in a cave. And
they are still plotting to come

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01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,500
over here and kill us. And
there's plenty of news articles

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01:08:01,500 --> 01:08:04,620
to back that up that that that
that is the story. And I was

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01:08:04,620 --> 01:08:07,830
just thinking about this harm. I
Hamid Karzai, he is the

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01:08:07,830 --> 01:08:10,830
president of Afghanistan. And
actually, I have to correct

1164
01:08:10,830 --> 01:08:14,220
myself. He did not go to school
in the United States. He

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01:08:14,220 --> 01:08:18,180
actually went to a school in
India, and he is a native of of

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01:08:18,180 --> 01:08:21,930
Afghanistan. But you know,
there's always been these, this

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01:08:21,930 --> 01:08:27,390
talk about his brother, who was
known as King Karzai. And he's

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01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:30,660
been accused of but I totally
believe it, of running all the

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01:08:30,660 --> 01:08:34,350
drug trade in Afghanistan. And
I'm thinking to myself, Okay, so

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01:08:34,350 --> 01:08:37,200
we went into Iraq. The first
thing we did is we grabbed

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01:08:37,290 --> 01:08:41,070
Saddam Saddam Hussein, right.
And we eventually got him hang.

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01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:45,480
That's just the fact. Now this
Karzai dude who has been in

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01:08:45,480 --> 01:08:49,470
Afghanistan since 2001, he's
been running the show there. We

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01:08:49,470 --> 01:08:51,930
treat him we kiss his ass all
the time. You know, we got

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01:08:51,930 --> 01:08:56,130
everyone over there. Hey, Hamid,
how you doin? What's going on?

1176
01:08:56,430 --> 01:08:59,160
And like, what how can this be?
How can we aren't pressuring

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01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,700
this guy to shape up his frickin
country? Well, because he's an

1178
01:09:02,730 --> 01:09:06,360
obvious plant. And you said
something. At lunch again,

1179
01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:09,030
yesterday, John, which I looked
up his it's not him, but his

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01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:15,810
brother, Mahmoud Karzai built a
restaurant Empire starting in

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01:09:15,810 --> 01:09:20,550
San Francisco, Boston and
Baltimore. This guy runs

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01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:25,890
everything. He owns the Toyota
dealership, he took over the

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01:09:25,890 --> 01:09:30,240
cement factory, the only cement
factory in Afghanistan, which by

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01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,910
the way, he did all the all he
did is he came in put a bag full

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01:09:32,970 --> 01:09:36,570
full of $25 million on the table
and said, and he was the only

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01:09:36,570 --> 01:09:39,750
bidder. I'm going to take it
over after the government had

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01:09:39,750 --> 01:09:43,140
already confiscated it. So this
is basically he runs the whole

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01:09:43,140 --> 01:09:46,530
show and Afghanistan. And if you
don't go along with what he

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01:09:46,530 --> 01:09:49,860
says, and you're within the
government, and this is a link

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01:09:49,860 --> 01:09:53,040
from the New York Times,
fantastic article. The article

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01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,900
is actually from from a march 4.
So you know, this is just the

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01:09:57,900 --> 01:10:01,080
stuff that the mainstream news
media won't read. The delve into

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01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,660
although luckily, it's being
reported on. So we've got this

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01:10:03,660 --> 01:10:09,090
trifecta of Karzai, who is in a
Putin completely protected

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01:10:09,090 --> 01:10:12,210
presidential palace so that his
hat doesn't get dirty and his

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01:10:12,210 --> 01:10:16,950
cape and is protected by of
course, the coalition forces

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01:10:17,070 --> 01:10:22,050
you've got his brother running
the drug trade is Wally is the

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01:10:22,050 --> 01:10:25,920
king Karzai, it's got his other
brother, who runs all of the

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01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,850
business, all commerce and
essentially is the is the

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01:10:29,850 --> 01:10:34,410
mobster. And now it makes so
much sense. We've got the

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01:10:34,410 --> 01:10:39,900
coalition troops protecting this
gang of thugs from the Taliban

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01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:43,560
who are actually trying to get
rid of all these assholes. So we

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01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,530
are in there protecting the drug
trade, which as you know, is the

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01:10:46,530 --> 01:10:49,860
way that Wall Street can shovel
money in because the only type

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01:10:49,860 --> 01:10:54,270
of entity in the United States
that can take money outside of

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01:10:54,270 --> 01:10:57,390
the country without you know,
registering that if it's more

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01:10:57,390 --> 01:11:01,440
than $10,000 are publicly listed
companies. So we've got the

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01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:04,350
drugs flowing back and forth
freely. We know from Bloomberg

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01:11:04,350 --> 01:11:07,470
that it's a completely
commoditized industry, they can

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01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:10,980
tell you exactly how much the
poppy stocks are up or down.

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01:11:10,980 --> 01:11:13,800
They say it's up, you know,
production is up. 22% How the

1212
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,740
fuck do they know this? Because
it's all registered because it's

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01:11:16,740 --> 01:11:20,970
a big scam. We are over there
protecting this gang of thugs

1214
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:25,530
that feel. So my understanding
is that restaurant in San

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01:11:25,530 --> 01:11:27,720
Francisco that that guy owns is
pretty good.

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01:11:28,770 --> 01:11:31,710
That's the downside. You can
hate the guy because he's got a

1217
01:11:31,710 --> 01:11:35,550
good he's got a good restaurant.
We should go there. Let's go eat

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01:11:35,550 --> 01:11:38,370
there this week. We should let's
go eat and we should ask

1219
01:11:38,370 --> 01:11:43,620
questions. Hey, by the way, did
Hamid Hamid come by lately

1220
01:11:43,620 --> 01:11:44,370
you've seen him where?

1221
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:50,550
days right after 911. He was he
was in the city. And I guess he

1222
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:54,390
rushed off for some reason they
think he rushed off to go as

1223
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:58,890
soon as presidency. And so there
was a lot of there was a few

1224
01:11:58,890 --> 01:12:02,250
news stories about it. They
thought it was quaint, that we'd

1225
01:12:02,250 --> 01:12:04,320
have to do it the way they
played it though, of course, as

1226
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,490
these guys were in exile,
running this rich, huge chain of

1227
01:12:08,490 --> 01:12:12,510
restaurants in Boston and San
Francisco and it was quite

1228
01:12:12,510 --> 01:12:16,530
interesting. Well, it's sure the
food's good. And Afghanistan

1229
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:16,980
food is

1230
01:12:16,979 --> 01:12:19,799
white. Let's, let's go eat
there. We've got to eat there.

1231
01:12:19,919 --> 01:12:23,909
So but you know, when you just
look at it all at face value, it

1232
01:12:23,909 --> 01:12:28,199
just becomes so incredibly clear
what is going on, you know,

1233
01:12:28,229 --> 01:12:30,869
because there's nothing else
going on in Afghanistan except

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01:12:30,869 --> 01:12:34,079
drugs. You know, Bloomberg is
tracking it like an oil

1235
01:12:34,079 --> 01:12:37,139
commodity that I bet you there's
somewhere there's a futures we

1236
01:12:37,139 --> 01:12:41,519
can buy on it. You know, the
Karzai is not being pressured.

1237
01:12:41,519 --> 01:12:46,469
In fact, he was just reelected
or not technically reelected

1238
01:12:46,469 --> 01:12:49,889
yet. But there's, you know,
every single organisation every

1239
01:12:49,889 --> 01:12:52,469
watchdog said, hey, there was
ballot box stuffing, there was

1240
01:12:52,469 --> 01:12:54,719
huge fraud, that like that
doesn't matter. We're gonna

1241
01:12:54,719 --> 01:12:59,759
count those votes anyway. And
then what's his name? Holbrook,

1242
01:12:59,969 --> 01:13:04,499
who was the special envoy, ie a
czar? You know, he's been

1243
01:13:04,619 --> 01:13:07,259
saying, Oh, well, you know, you
shouldn't count those. And you

1244
01:13:07,259 --> 01:13:10,049
know, they're afraid of them.
John, I believe the United

1245
01:13:10,049 --> 01:13:12,359
States government that the
administration is afraid of

1246
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:15,509
these guys, for a couple of
reasons. One, they don't want to

1247
01:13:15,509 --> 01:13:17,819
get the drug supply cut off,
which of course, is being flown

1248
01:13:17,819 --> 01:13:21,029
back a military, military,
military planes and transport.

1249
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,089
And they don't want to get
banned from the restaurant. I

1250
01:13:24,089 --> 01:13:28,859
think that's probably the number
one that would really really

1251
01:13:28,859 --> 01:13:31,229
suck because you know that
Afghani food is really good.

1252
01:13:32,460 --> 01:13:34,110
Spicy. Yeah.

1253
01:13:34,140 --> 01:13:39,120
So I'm thinking this is a this
is horse crap. And on top of

1254
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,630
that, you know, it's all it's
all coming from Pakistan, you

1255
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:44,820
know, when are we gonna go
invade there instead of just

1256
01:13:44,820 --> 01:13:48,810
sending unmanned drones over to
kill people? Kill me, that's

1257
01:13:48,810 --> 01:13:51,810
lame. You know, that's like, if
you want to go fight, fight,

1258
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:56,670
let's watch this boom, fight.
And then they keep blowing up

1259
01:13:56,670 --> 01:14:00,570
civilians all the time. And I
thought it was Al Qaeda and now

1260
01:14:00,570 --> 01:14:03,570
it's the Taliban. Why is the
Taliban because the Taliban had

1261
01:14:03,570 --> 01:14:06,660
completely obliterated the poppy
fields. They got rid of

1262
01:14:06,690 --> 01:14:10,080
everything. They had a couple of
other radical ideas that you may

1263
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,560
or may not agree with, but hey,
don't go live there. Okay. I'm

1264
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,110
sorry. Just don't go live there.
Apparently you can get out and

1265
01:14:16,110 --> 01:14:18,420
you can do quite well in the
West. You can come here you can

1266
01:14:18,420 --> 01:14:21,180
build a restaurant chain. So
don't live there. If you don't

1267
01:14:21,180 --> 01:14:25,020
like the shit that they make you
do. I love women. I love women's

1268
01:14:25,020 --> 01:14:27,000
rights. I'm sorry, I can't
change it. We got enough

1269
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,870
problems in our own country with
women being suppressed. So let's

1270
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:34,830
concentrate on that first. But
no, we're over there and we're

1271
01:14:34,830 --> 01:14:39,300
protecting these guys. That's
what it seems like to me, I and

1272
01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:45,090
Iraq. So did our president not
say that he was pulling the

1273
01:14:45,090 --> 01:14:45,870
troops out

1274
01:14:48,899 --> 01:14:52,709
is vague I don't think he said I
think yeah, he did actually said

1275
01:14:52,709 --> 01:14:55,199
they're gonna be pulled up by
2012 or something like that.

1276
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,130
He is pulling the troops out but
he's replacing them.

1277
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,580
Yeah with with guy should cost
even more money Exactly. He's

1278
01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:03,330
replacing them

1279
01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:08,340
by the way when did the army
have to be catered? I mean used

1280
01:15:08,340 --> 01:15:11,040
to be you know in the green zone
if you're you know, they have

1281
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,710
these catering companies they
had a huge contract they've got

1282
01:15:13,710 --> 01:15:14,130
Burger

1283
01:15:14,130 --> 01:15:17,820
King John burger giant JP
Where's the guy

1284
01:15:17,820 --> 01:15:20,880
that could appealing up potatoes
to, you know, the sergeant of

1285
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,640
the mess hall whatever happened
to these things this is how you

1286
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,280
save money on these war efforts
is cost a lot of money to have

1287
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,970
all these private mercenaries
and private catering companies

1288
01:15:29,970 --> 01:15:32,070
and all this other stuff. None
of this stuff costs. No wonder

1289
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:34,170
we're going broke. No wonder we
are broke. This is why we're

1290
01:15:34,170 --> 01:15:34,620
broke.

1291
01:15:34,650 --> 01:15:39,450
I had I have pictures of when I
was at Basra airport in in

1292
01:15:39,450 --> 01:15:43,410
southern Iraq when I was there
in 2003. I was blown away. I was

1293
01:15:43,410 --> 01:15:46,170
like, Hey, let's go eat. I'm
like, okay, you know, and then I

1294
01:15:46,170 --> 01:15:48,450
had actually been in the Dutch
Marines camp. And that was

1295
01:15:48,450 --> 01:15:51,720
pretty much everyone has KP
duty, and it was really peeling

1296
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,030
potatoes and shit. Although
there was some catered stuff.

1297
01:15:54,690 --> 01:15:57,210
And I'm like, Whoa, Burger King,
but with a sign, you know, not

1298
01:15:57,210 --> 01:16:00,840
just like a tent with like, a
Burger King like a franchise?

1299
01:16:01,230 --> 01:16:04,470
Right there. With the logo and
everything. Yeah, I'm not

1300
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:09,120
kidding. I'm not kidding. And
I'm looking for the I'm looking

1301
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,930
for the link here. But this in
the past week, another $485

1302
01:16:12,930 --> 01:16:17,910
million worth of a contract
signed to send more contractors

1303
01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:27,390
over to over to Iraq. Let me see
why is this not opening up? Come

1304
01:16:27,390 --> 01:16:28,170
on Linky.

1305
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:31,170
While you're doing that, I'm
going to ask him kind of a

1306
01:16:31,170 --> 01:16:34,440
rhetorical question. I was
watching some of the C span this

1307
01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:37,080
week. And by the way, which is
the reason people should be

1308
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:40,320
contributing to this show,
because we talk to torment

1309
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:44,520
ourselves. I'm watching this
thing. It's at the steamboat

1310
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,040
Institute and one guy is talking
to another guy.

1311
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,400
I saw this the steamboat
Institute. Fantastic. Yeah, go

1312
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,000
ahead. But yeah,

1313
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,550
but here's what gets me there's
a guy from the Galen or a woman

1314
01:16:53,550 --> 01:16:55,440
from the garlic guy. I don't
know remember a guy from the

1315
01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:58,830
Galen Institute, a guy from the
Cato Institute at the steamboat

1316
01:16:58,830 --> 01:17:01,200
Institute, and they're all
talking about this and where did

1317
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,960
all these Institute's come from
and where all these guys these

1318
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,440
blowhards. They seem to be
manufacturing them by the tonne

1319
01:17:07,710 --> 01:17:11,580
that sit around going to other
institute events. And from in

1320
01:17:11,580 --> 01:17:13,950
one Institute talking to another
this is worse than the

1321
01:17:13,950 --> 01:17:14,580
government. Well,

1322
01:17:14,580 --> 01:17:17,280
this is how it works. That's
what the CFR is Council on

1323
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,560
Foreign Relations, the
Trilateral Commission the

1324
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,320
steamboat, which by the way was
hosted by Blakely who I think is

1325
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:23,400
an interesting character.

1326
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,029
They sit around Now that wasn't
a member of an institute.

1327
01:17:27,689 --> 01:17:30,749
They sit around they dream up
shit and then they basically get

1328
01:17:30,749 --> 01:17:33,299
lobbyists to go and push through
their agenda. This is how it

1329
01:17:33,299 --> 01:17:36,839
works. This is what this is how
that's the real government right

1330
01:17:36,839 --> 01:17:42,209
there. When you know USAID, who
by the way, is sending millions

1331
01:17:42,209 --> 01:17:46,319
to Afghanistan. Were sending
millions to Afghanistan. They

1332
01:17:46,319 --> 01:17:49,379
shouldn't get shit from us. If
they're trying to blow us up.

1333
01:17:49,379 --> 01:17:51,419
Why are we trying to give them
money i that

1334
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:55,170
boggles the mind. Use that as a
clip to

1335
01:17:55,170 --> 01:17:58,440
hear listen to this. This is my
favourite link of the week. I

1336
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:02,070
need a jingle for that. Adams
favourite link of the week. We

1337
01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:07,680
have finally, John, broken
ground. You think a website is

1338
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,580
expensive. We have finally
broken ground on the Homeland

1339
01:18:11,580 --> 01:18:16,560
Security complex. Do you know
how much this complex is going

1340
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,650
to cost? An office building
essentially?

1341
01:18:20,249 --> 01:18:23,069
Well it office building can't
cost more than about a good

1342
01:18:23,069 --> 01:18:25,649
office buildings should run you
about 150 million.

1343
01:18:25,709 --> 01:18:34,019
Okay, try $3.4 billion $3.4
billion for a department that is

1344
01:18:34,019 --> 01:18:35,999
only what two years old?

1345
01:18:37,590 --> 01:18:40,260
Well, that should piss off the
other departments. Well, listen

1346
01:18:40,260 --> 01:18:44,580
to this. This is this is my
favourite quote. So upon queried

1347
01:18:44,820 --> 01:18:50,220
why the Department of Homeland
Security needs a $3.4 billion

1348
01:18:50,730 --> 01:18:56,220
complex. Secretary of Defence or
Secretary of Homeland Security

1349
01:18:56,310 --> 01:19:04,950
Janet Napolitano said it will
help us hold meetings it will

1350
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:08,910
help us hold meetings it will
help us build that culture of

1351
01:19:08,910 --> 01:19:16,830
One DHS. This is more expensive
than the Pentagon.

1352
01:19:20,220 --> 01:19:24,210
Why isn't the public up in arms
about this sort of crap? Because

1353
01:19:24,210 --> 01:19:27,810
no one knows about it. Why isn't
the media talking about why what

1354
01:19:27,810 --> 01:19:30,630
is the problem with this country
that people don't say Hey, this

1355
01:19:30,630 --> 01:19:34,920
is bull. You're not building a
$3.2 billion building where they

1356
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,050
because they're going out there
looking for ways to save money.

1357
01:19:37,050 --> 01:19:39,840
Oh, look at that good person.
They they bought a box of

1358
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,050
popsicles. You'd have to take
that off the budget as we say we

1359
01:19:43,050 --> 01:19:46,410
were costing us 10s of dollars
is a popsicles

1360
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,739
as we say in aviation John while
you're looking at all the little

1361
01:19:49,739 --> 01:19:53,219
ship on the map, trying not to
fly into it. You crash into the

1362
01:19:53,219 --> 01:19:55,919
mountain that's right in front
of you. That's the way it goes.

1363
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,540
You know nothing to see here.
Jingle.

1364
01:19:58,890 --> 01:20:05,700
Don't look over here. Nothing to
see. Look at that. So our job,

1365
01:20:05,700 --> 01:20:10,140
if anything is to, to at least
bring these things into the

1366
01:20:10,140 --> 01:20:13,410
topic of conversation. I know
it's very difficult for people

1367
01:20:13,410 --> 01:20:17,400
to get friends and colleagues
and fellow students to listen to

1368
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,030
this programme. We of course,
are deemed completely nuts,

1369
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:26,010
crackpots, idiots, not part of
the programme. But maybe you can

1370
01:20:26,010 --> 01:20:29,070
just talk about some of the
things that we discuss, we have

1371
01:20:29,070 --> 01:20:32,640
links for all of this, and this
particular story about the

1372
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,480
security Homeland Security
complex. It's a CNN story. So I

1373
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:39,900
believe that the people who are
hypnotised and programmed by

1374
01:20:39,930 --> 01:20:42,840
cable news media will take note
of it, and they'll they'll take

1375
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:47,370
your link serious if it says
cnn.com in the URL, but get the

1376
01:20:47,370 --> 01:20:50,070
conversation started. Because
that's, that's about the only

1377
01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:54,030
thing we can do. And we do it
almost as a public service,

1378
01:20:54,060 --> 01:20:54,840
almost.

1379
01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:57,810
But yeah, we did get some
contributions. And I'm gonna

1380
01:20:57,810 --> 01:21:02,070
mention some names here. And I
do going to pound the pavement

1381
01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:04,530
for getting more people to
contribute. We do have a lot of

1382
01:21:04,530 --> 01:21:07,590
listeners, and we only have a
very small number who contribute

1383
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:09,810
the rest of the people think
that we can just keep doing this

1384
01:21:09,810 --> 01:21:15,120
without their help. By the way,
it's d u i dash help.com for a

1385
01:21:15,150 --> 01:21:18,360
contributor from a few weeks
ago, and I said DUI help.com

1386
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:22,950
which is a competitor. DUI dash
help.com Go check them out if

1387
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:26,970
you have a DUI. Hey, we got the
competitive zone out of

1388
01:21:26,970 --> 01:21:30,390
Brantford, Ontario gave us
$120.12 What do you think that

1389
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:30,870
means?

1390
01:21:31,470 --> 01:21:32,460
Give me the number again.

1391
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:37,650
120 dot one, two, there's a lot
of potential for sixes who

1392
01:21:37,679 --> 01:21:41,429
don't want to ship mad or no,
it's a nice, nice amount though.

1393
01:21:41,429 --> 01:21:42,149
I appreciate that.

1394
01:21:42,149 --> 01:21:45,149
I think we should get more of
that. Richard Baumgarten,

1395
01:21:45,539 --> 01:21:47,579
Ontario Canada it's a

1396
01:21:47,580 --> 01:21:49,740
start is what it is John, it's a
good start.

1397
01:21:49,890 --> 01:21:54,960
We need more. Adam earnest his
last name is spelled er from

1398
01:21:54,990 --> 01:21:58,140
Ankara Turkey for $67. By the
way, these odd numbers that come

1399
01:21:58,140 --> 01:22:00,450
in from Europe I think is
because they give us your house.

1400
01:22:00,750 --> 01:22:01,470
Right exactly.

1401
01:22:02,069 --> 01:22:08,069
Comes in his three euros, three
euros. So yeah, three euros.

1402
01:22:08,249 --> 01:22:08,609
Now. That's

1403
01:22:10,590 --> 01:22:12,600
better. It's exactly 50 euros.

1404
01:22:12,900 --> 01:22:16,230
It probably is so I so he's from
angry. We need more euros, maybe

1405
01:22:16,230 --> 01:22:20,370
50 euros is all you need to give
us anyway, in Ankara, Turkey. I

1406
01:22:20,370 --> 01:22:25,500
think that's cool. We have a
Turkish producer, Scott Scott

1407
01:22:25,530 --> 01:22:29,820
Wald her Scott Wald hers. 100
bucks out of Minneapolis. Thank

1408
01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:36,120
you, Mark Honigman from
Victoria, Australia. It shows

1409
01:22:36,150 --> 01:22:43,470
any GMA and I think a Bauman
Tillman or Tillman. beilman from

1410
01:22:43,470 --> 01:22:47,580
Hampshire, England. $50.23 What
do you think that means?

1411
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:49,920
5320 ship?

1412
01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:52,110
No. 5023 I'm sorry.

1413
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,740
5023 I'm so lost on this John. I
really

1414
01:22:55,740 --> 01:22:59,370
think we're okay. These people
will have to give us our era

1415
01:22:59,370 --> 01:23:07,290
dirt. Durian era durian. That's
it from Trump booth go

1416
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:14,730
somewhere. Don Chilton I
actually wrote you're really

1417
01:23:14,730 --> 01:23:19,140
butchering this today. I am Don
Shelton and Pittsburgh, Lynn.

1418
01:23:19,860 --> 01:23:23,850
You Lena sorry. You're what it
was. I wrote up my crappy

1419
01:23:23,850 --> 01:23:30,060
handwriting I ate your notes.
Lena No, Bert no boo Hara in

1420
01:23:30,060 --> 01:23:33,480
Australia. And of course, I
think we've already named bite

1421
01:23:33,480 --> 01:23:35,730
marks which I still think is a
great name for a company white

1422
01:23:35,730 --> 01:23:36,960
Mark White.

1423
01:23:37,019 --> 01:23:38,729
What is bite marks do you think

1424
01:23:39,599 --> 01:23:43,079
would be YT? Ma, rk is either
Honolulu they have to be a

1425
01:23:43,079 --> 01:23:43,619
computer.

1426
01:23:44,399 --> 01:23:47,369
I hope they build websites and I
hope they get a $18 million

1427
01:23:47,790 --> 01:23:50,610
contract and dollars to build a
WordPress site.

1428
01:23:50,639 --> 01:23:52,559
No, no Drupal Drupal site.

1429
01:23:52,740 --> 01:23:55,320
We want to thank everybody for
these contributions and I want

1430
01:23:55,320 --> 01:24:01,710
you to encourage you to continue
by going to dvorak.org/n A and

1431
01:24:01,710 --> 01:24:07,170
clicking on one of the links or
go to a no agenda show.com Or no

1432
01:24:07,170 --> 01:24:12,600
agenda.squarespace.com And you
know, contribute we also have

1433
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,330
that we're still leaving the
dinner open. Yeah, how are we

1434
01:24:15,330 --> 01:24:18,780
doing with that? We're not doing
as well as all the promises so a

1435
01:24:18,780 --> 01:24:21,990
lot of people Oh yeah, our men
on this and then the next thing

1436
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:27,870
I can't come so we're gonna go
until next Thursday if we don't

1437
01:24:27,870 --> 01:24:30,570
have the thing fall by then I
have to cancel it and what do

1438
01:24:30,570 --> 01:24:34,530
we have like like three people
now to 10 to boy

1439
01:24:35,490 --> 01:24:37,290
See, so that's not good. Yeah,

1440
01:24:37,290 --> 01:24:41,190
we got to have at least at least
seven or eight Yeah, eight

1441
01:24:41,220 --> 01:24:43,980
Otherwise, otherwise, we're
gonna lose money on it. You

1442
01:24:43,980 --> 01:24:45,510
know, this is not a money making
deal.

1443
01:24:46,170 --> 01:24:48,300
may change the model to
something that's a little

1444
01:24:48,300 --> 01:24:50,820
further out in advance and has
more people at less money

1445
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,550
where even we're even taking
commercial you know, John was

1446
01:24:53,550 --> 01:24:55,530
like, Hey, when are we gonna fly
in your plane like Dude, that's

1447
01:24:55,530 --> 01:24:58,800
gonna be way more expensive than
the 79 bucks special.

1448
01:24:59,490 --> 01:25:02,430
Earlier So what does it cost to
fly a little plane? Is it twice

1449
01:25:02,430 --> 01:25:03,750
as much as commercial airlines?

1450
01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:09,270
Well, it depends. I burned 16
gallons an hour. So to Vegas,

1451
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:11,070
what's the distance between here
in Vegas,

1452
01:25:11,670 --> 01:25:14,370
I think is about 400 500 miles.

1453
01:25:14,700 --> 01:25:19,500
So that would be about two and a
half, three hours. So you're

1454
01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:28,050
looking at 50 gallons 50 times,
what is it now? It's probably

1455
01:25:28,050 --> 01:25:29,790
about four bucks for aviation.

1456
01:25:30,090 --> 01:25:32,370
That's four to five bucks
depends on the airport. Oh, it's

1457
01:25:32,370 --> 01:25:34,020
gonna be like 200.

1458
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:40,320
That's one way. Correct. So it's
400 bucks just kind of high.

1459
01:25:41,130 --> 01:25:42,540
When we can fly in it special.

1460
01:25:42,540 --> 01:25:47,370
But you get to smoke on board,
which is kind of cool. For you.

1461
01:25:50,340 --> 01:25:52,950
We're done with the with the,
with the donations.

1462
01:25:53,250 --> 01:25:56,670
Yeah, that's all we got in the
want to encourage people to

1463
01:25:56,670 --> 01:26:03,690
continue. No agenda show.com or
divorce iq.org/n. A. And as we

1464
01:26:03,690 --> 01:26:06,180
appreciate, today's show, by the
way is worth the price of

1465
01:26:06,180 --> 01:26:08,250
admission. I mean, the fact
about the union scan that

1466
01:26:08,250 --> 01:26:12,690
nobody's covering, which I think
is outstanding analysis is worth

1467
01:26:12,690 --> 01:26:15,210
people sending us some money.
And I'll tell you, you know, if

1468
01:26:15,210 --> 01:26:18,840
you think about it, we do three
hours a week, more or less,

1469
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:24,180
sometimes more. Which is, which
is a little bit about the same

1470
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,900
amount as a as an epic movie
that you'd pay 20 bucks to go to

1471
01:26:27,900 --> 01:26:30,300
it. And you might go to those
like three or four or five or 10

1472
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:34,350
times a year, which is hundreds
of dollars of entertainment

1473
01:26:34,350 --> 01:26:37,380
value. I think we provide that
much. And we also keep people

1474
01:26:37,410 --> 01:26:39,510
you know gives them something to
listen to on their way to work

1475
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:44,490
the commuters definitely should
be paying us. Yeah, we do not

1476
01:26:44,490 --> 01:26:47,400
want to take subscriptions from
me, we do not want to take

1477
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:51,690
advertisers because it turns
into a fiasco. It's it corrupts

1478
01:26:51,690 --> 01:26:54,360
the show, which is not gonna do
anything and it's boring. It

1479
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,480
makes it totally boring. Makes
no changes the pacing. And

1480
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,639
then how can we laugh about
commercials if we got our own

1481
01:26:59,639 --> 01:27:02,369
commercials that would never
work that way? Couple A couple

1482
01:27:02,369 --> 01:27:07,709
of quick as we wrap it up a
couple of quick notes. HR 1207,

1483
01:27:07,709 --> 01:27:17,069
the Audit the Fed bill will
enter into the hearings. I guess

1484
01:27:17,069 --> 01:27:19,529
that's hearings or committee.
I'm not quite sure Friday,

1485
01:27:19,529 --> 01:27:24,779
September 25, nine o'clock, as
promised Barney Twinkletoes

1486
01:27:24,779 --> 01:27:27,869
Frank, has agreed to hold
hearings on it. So that's good.

1487
01:27:27,869 --> 01:27:31,049
That's a really good start.
Although John, you maintain that

1488
01:27:31,049 --> 01:27:35,639
it'll never pass? Oh, of course
not. But it's a good start. So

1489
01:27:35,639 --> 01:27:37,409
at least we can get some
conversation Well, we'll get

1490
01:27:37,409 --> 01:27:39,749
good audio clips, there'll be
some you know, we're gonna get

1491
01:27:39,869 --> 01:27:44,699
interviews and stuff like that.
So. And I just wanted to

1492
01:27:44,699 --> 01:27:48,359
mention, finally, what you
haven't heard throughout this

1493
01:27:48,359 --> 01:27:51,419
entire programme, and that of
course, now I have to play at

1494
01:27:51,539 --> 01:27:55,499
least once a mack daddy, he
perhaps white women and black

1495
01:27:55,499 --> 01:27:59,549
women, Obama is a long leg mack
daddy. Although highly

1496
01:27:59,549 --> 01:28:02,429
entertaining, we figured that
would be pretty offensive to a

1497
01:28:02,429 --> 01:28:06,359
lot of people, hopefully to some
people in our very own audience.

1498
01:28:07,379 --> 01:28:12,239
One of our employees, John, over
bvo, Maggie came in, you know, I

1499
01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:15,509
have a great relationship with
Maggie who was I shouldn't give

1500
01:28:15,509 --> 01:28:21,089
her age, but she's older than 50
and younger than 70. And I think

1501
01:28:21,089 --> 01:28:24,779
she's an ex Black Panther
actually, she asked me she was

1502
01:28:24,779 --> 01:28:29,009
threatened to kill me several
times. And she said to me, I

1503
01:28:29,009 --> 01:28:31,859
mean, we talk about all kinds of
crazy shit. And a lot of the

1504
01:28:31,859 --> 01:28:34,559
stuff we discussed on no agenda.
And you know, and it's fun,

1505
01:28:34,559 --> 01:28:37,469
because she'll really push back
in some time, but she's a total

1506
01:28:37,469 --> 01:28:39,989
Obama bot, and I kid her about
it. And so we have a great

1507
01:28:39,989 --> 01:28:42,899
relationship, which is really
private, not part of the

1508
01:28:42,899 --> 01:28:46,589
workplace, although they usually
take place in the workplace. And

1509
01:28:46,589 --> 01:28:49,289
she said, Oh, have you heard
about have you heard about the

1510
01:28:49,289 --> 01:28:54,449
LA guns? I'm like LA guns.
That's a that's like a rock band

1511
01:28:54,449 --> 01:28:59,219
from the 80s from from the West
Coast. La guns apparently, it's

1512
01:28:59,669 --> 01:29:04,319
some mailing list that she's on,
which is a part of the NAACP San

1513
01:29:04,319 --> 01:29:07,859
Francisco chapter. And she
forwarded to me which I can't

1514
01:29:07,859 --> 01:29:10,289
post of course, because there's
all these email addresses and

1515
01:29:10,289 --> 01:29:17,069
and she forwarded me this entire
thread of NAACP members, I

1516
01:29:17,069 --> 01:29:22,529
presume, who have now finally
found Pastor Manning, and oh my

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01:29:22,529 --> 01:29:26,009
god, the stuff they are writing.
So she said, he's gonna get

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01:29:26,009 --> 01:29:30,029
killed here. Where can I find
someone who for five CDs will go

1519
01:29:30,029 --> 01:29:33,179
and kill this fool? And this
kind of stuff that is in his

1520
01:29:33,209 --> 01:29:36,239
email? I mean, it's, it's here,
I'll just read this, be sure to

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01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:39,449
click on the link and check this
black fool out. African

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01:29:39,449 --> 01:29:41,909
Americans need to develop a
strategy for dealing with

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01:29:41,909 --> 01:29:45,809
educated ignorant Uncle Tom
steppin feathers suckers like

1524
01:29:45,809 --> 01:29:50,099
this. With a PhD, a Bible, a
microphone and an audience. This

1525
01:29:50,099 --> 01:29:53,429
is a dangerous man and in the
year 2009 He has the nerve to

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01:29:53,429 --> 01:29:57,119
record this garbage and the
conversation I tried to get into

1527
01:29:57,119 --> 01:30:00,689
with her which was just
impossible was mad. I

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01:30:00,689 --> 01:30:03,869
understand, you know, the guy,
obviously, the guy is passing on

1529
01:30:03,869 --> 01:30:08,159
a message, which is not okay.
Although it's interesting how he

1530
01:30:08,159 --> 01:30:10,829
explains what he means by this
and you might want to and I

1531
01:30:10,829 --> 01:30:13,079
said, hey, check out this where
he explains what he means with

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01:30:13,079 --> 01:30:17,309
mack daddy. She's like, No, we
have to kill him like this. But

1533
01:30:17,309 --> 01:30:21,929
that makes no sense. This is a
thing of freedom of speech, you

1534
01:30:21,929 --> 01:30:24,989
know, whether you like it or not
let the guy talk. And now you're

1535
01:30:24,989 --> 01:30:28,109
just bringing more to the
forefront by exposing him to

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01:30:28,109 --> 01:30:32,369
everybody. Not discussable not
discussable. Well,

1537
01:30:32,370 --> 01:30:35,460
that's the way it is with the
the true Obama bot.

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01:30:36,930 --> 01:30:39,420
Yeah, I guess, too, anyway.

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01:30:40,020 --> 01:30:44,400
But it is a little incendiary. I
would say yes. But But it's

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01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,470
funny. I think there's humour
there. I don't know why people

1541
01:30:46,470 --> 01:30:48,750
just don't think see the humour.
I see

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01:30:48,750 --> 01:30:51,240
the humour. And that's what I
tried to keep telling us. Don't

1543
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:55,290
you just see the humour? She's
like, there is nothing funny

1544
01:30:55,290 --> 01:30:58,170
about that said the guy's
wearing a purple dress. Come on,

1545
01:30:58,170 --> 01:31:02,040
get over a minute. Yeah. And she
couldn't see that. Oh, well.

1546
01:31:03,150 --> 01:31:08,100
Yeah, it was. Let's try on
Sunday maybe to discuss because

1547
01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:11,370
there had been some updates with
my eminent domain situation

1548
01:31:11,370 --> 01:31:14,580
which are quite interesting.
Because there's some huge

1549
01:31:14,580 --> 01:31:18,210
government's scam happening in
in the United Republic of

1550
01:31:18,210 --> 01:31:19,800
California. Here. I also

1551
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,430
have a right after the Obama
speech to the second being the

1552
01:31:23,430 --> 01:31:27,660
phone rings and I got a call
from a survey person. And I put

1553
01:31:27,660 --> 01:31:29,400
the recorder on solid we have
good

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01:31:29,430 --> 01:31:33,600
Oh, did you talk to the survey
person? Yeah. Excellent.

1555
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:36,750
I took the survey.

1556
01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:41,160
Oh, great. Love it. Coming to
you from the crackpot command

1557
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:45,060
centre located in the minimum
security containment cell under

1558
01:31:45,060 --> 01:31:48,150
a real threat of eminent domain
in San Francisco, California get

1559
01:31:48,150 --> 01:31:50,370
one nation West. I'm Adam curry.

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01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:55,470
And from a warming trend,
northern Silicon Valley. I'm

1561
01:31:55,470 --> 01:31:56,640
John C. Dvorak.

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01:31:56,670 --> 01:32:00,420
We'll be here once again on
Sunday, around nine o'clock

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Pacific time. On no agenda