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everybody welcome once again to
the show that has absolutely no

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commercials, no music, no
jingles, no talent, no norovirus

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and no agenda. Coming to you
from a very dark and wet United

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Kingdom. I'm Adam curry.

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And I'm John C. Dvorak are
getting pounded by huge storm.

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You were just just before we
started, you were what? are you

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closing the window or something
or putting a screen on?

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The screen is gonna fly out into
the ocean here if I don't, so I

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had to open the window to grab
it. Now it's and then we just

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like get everything wet.

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So what are the what are these
wins because I even saw a news

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report about it somewhere. I was
aware of this. This was

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happening.

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Yeah, it's just a big you know,
once in a while we get these

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whopping Whopper storms. You
don't get a lot of action

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usually. But we had but there's
these two storms that came in

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one came in at four in the
morning. Last night. It was just

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like 60 mile an hour winds cold
and raining. Like to an extreme.

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In fact, this morning, I was
doing trying to do some work

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here. And it was like so noisy.
I couldn't even concentrate.

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Which is unusual. And it's also
coming from a weird angle which

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is always annoying it then it
kind of messes up the you know,

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most people's houses are kind of
set up in a certain way so the

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you know, so the so the shingles
don't go flying off the roof,

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right? I'm gonna check this roof
after this one.

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Okay, well, real sorry for all
you folks in California. I mean,

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we're used to that shit. We got
high winds all the time.

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No, you don't get this kind of
strange weather. I mean, why

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I've been in London when it's
been pretty bad. But no,

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it can be pretty, pretty weird.
Anyway, it's Friday afternoon,

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or at least it is. It's actually
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o'clock in the UK. So one day
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once.

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Right? We're supposed to do it
on Friday, but we never do. And

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I figured out the Skype

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problem and I really feel dorky
about it. And you know, you

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remember last week, the
connection got so bad at a

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certain point that we actually
turn the conversation into how

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can we do this in a in an
easier, easier way that at least

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will sound good. I had my DOM on
the PC. And when I do this

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because it's kind of like
permanently installed in the in

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the studio. And I had my my
MacBook Pro up here in the

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office. And I had left iTunes
running. And it was oh, I know

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I'm such a dick. So it was he
was downloading podcasts. Well,

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you know, when you're on the
sorry as DSL line, like I have

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here then that just blew it
also, my fault won't happen

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again.

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Good. But you sounded fine. The
whole podcast?

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Well, yeah. Because it's
recording my mic, or you listen

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to it. You listen to the show.
Yeah, really? No. I

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mean, we're not but what I'm
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when we're recording, okay, no,
I understand but you sounded

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fine. I don't really listen to
the show me why there's no real

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reason to listen to the show
since I write on the show.

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Right. That's what I that's why
I was surprised. I thought you

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had gone back and listened to
the show. I don't listen to my

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show.

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Once in a while, I will just to
see how the quality is what most

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people think

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our quality is actually pretty
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That's not bad. Yeah. So you
know, this week, of course, we

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just happened to be having pod
show meetings. And I asked you

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so let's just do the show now.
Because we were absolutely as

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unprepared as possible, which I
think is the kind of the theme

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of the show. Just to show people
that it can be done that way.

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And so I guess that's that's

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why we talked about one thing
that happened to you you had

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norovirus Yeah.

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That's the the epidemic that is
sweeping across the continent.

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Now. This they call it the
vomiting virus not that I

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vomited because I don't do that.

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It's reasonable in the United
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known as the stomach flu which
we've had you know bouts with

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now and again. And but it seems
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is just very hard hitting now
you're telling me it hit the

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continent too?

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Yeah, well, at least those those
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getting, first of all, they
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that the symptoms are projectile
vomiting. So you know, that is

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not just the stomach flu. I like
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down. Oh, you will projectile
vomit. Which I have never done

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in my life.

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Did you projectile vomit? No.

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I haven't puked in 30 years,
John, I don't puke.

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Oh, what are those guys I know I
had a friend in high school that

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never puked.

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It's not like I like I you know,
I just don't have to puke. I'm

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sorry. So I'm not a puker What
can I tell you? The whole family

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is is anti You hear, by the way,

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so you didn't have predict
projectile vomiting? No. Well,

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no. So that so, so much for the
symptoms? No, because

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the symptoms can be high fever,
which I had. I had an upset

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stomach for sure. It's just I
don't puke. That's the only

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difference. And believe me, you
know, there's enough project

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projectiles, just not vomit.

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Oh, I get my drift. We will go
there. Okay, thank

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you. But this is highly
contagious. And you know, so I

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posted on my blog that you know,
okay, I'm sick. And then the

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reports came out about this
virus and then everyone on in

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the country is every news report
is talking about it and the

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saying, Look, you know, so
you're, you're you got a fever,

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you're sick to your stomach,
don't go to the doctor, you're

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only going to infect more
people. It's infecting 200,000

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people a week. And they believe
that there may already be 2

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million people in the UK alone
who are infected. And when I

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posted on my weblog, I started
getting comments from

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everywhere, from the
Netherlands, from Germany, from

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Finland from Italy. I mean, this
thing is just and it's really

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really, really fast and you get
it by being in close proximity

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to someone else. So sporting
events, aeroplanes, ships, in

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fact, I think it's the queen is
the Queen Mary to that, that had

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they set sail and and there's
like 50 people who have the flu

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on board now.

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Yeah, well that you know, and of
course the smart money whether

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you have the flu or not, you say
you didn't get a free ride.

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Okay, so no, in fact, it's like
the biggest scam going on right

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now. People will do it again on
a cruise ship and then they if

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there's any indication that
something's breaking out, they

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go in with the symptoms. And you
know, you have some good glass

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of Tabasco sauce if you want to
elevate your temperature. And

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really does that work? Well, I
know you can if you eat some

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really hot food, you know, some
very spicy Mexican food some

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jalapenos, you can get your
temperature up if you've not

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just really I

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should have known that as a kid
man. I was always like running

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around my room and you know,
trying to to work out my body

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temperature.

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And most kids can't handle it.
But yeah, you see a beauty you

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see people that sweat I
remember, I'm reminded of a

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story says you know in
California a lot of us eat a lot

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of hot chilies. And although not
necessarily as much as some of

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us do, who are really kind of
addicted to the chilli and and

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I'm quite comfortable with the
hottest imaginable food except

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some places in India has served
food that is excruciating, and

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maybe too too much for me. But
so I'm in Brazil.

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Well, you're a professional job.
Let's just be honest. I mean,

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let's just call a spade a spade.
Doing what your professional

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foodie Yeah.

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I'm a foodie. Yeah, yeah. So
anyway, so I'm, by the way, the

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thing about Chili's for people
out there who wants to watch the

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big kick? Well, I mean, besides
the fact you get a little

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endorphin hit, the real kick of
chilies is it actually changes

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because it burns out certain
taste buds for a short term, it

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changes the flavour profile of
foods and you actually get in

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the food tastes differently and
sometimes it's meant to taste

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that differently way for you to
fully appreciate it. So I'm in

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Brazil, where they where they
really like hot chilies but not

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that many people actually in
Brazil eat them but they're all

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over the place. And when I go to
these churrascaria is which are

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these Brazilian barbecue places
which are all over the world

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now. But any of them outside of
Brazil they never have the

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chilli sauces they usually in
Brazil, you go to one of these

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places where they have these
barbecued meats on a sword they

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bring out and you ask for this
piece or that piece. They have

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like this they have these hot
some scotch bonnets and there's

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really little bitty really dinky
little peppers that are

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extremely hot

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and you eat for you before you
get to the meat.

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The peppers are usually soaked
in a vinegar or vinegar oil

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mixture and is that mixture
though the oil and vinegar you

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put on the meat. You don't ever
eat the peppers. Okay,

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generally, it's just a hot it's
a really kind of a version of a

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hot sauces. It's very evident it
can be extremely hot. Anyway,

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but so I'm in Brazil, and this
guy's you know, in real action,

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a little barbecue place right on
the beach. And the guy says,

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this guy, he's another
journalist, and he's like,

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challenges me to these peppers
thinking I'm just some sort of

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went from the United States who
doesn't know anything about

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peppers. So I said, Yeah, he
says, Would you ever have these

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peppers? I say yeah, those
peppers are are pretty hot.

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Pretty nice. He said, Would you
ever eat one of the peppers?

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What kind of a child was this
guy? I know he's just a jerk is

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typical journalist. Anyway, so
oops. Anyway, so he says I said

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yeah, you want if you eat one,
you know here we go.

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Hey, go mature. He's nice.

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So he says, Okay, and so I took
one of the peppers and chewed it

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up and swallow it. And it was
really it was hot, but it wasn't

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intolerably hot. I mean, there's
many pepper harder than the

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thing. And he says, he says, you
want it? You don't want to have

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another one. I said, you want to
have another one? Because he put

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one in his mouth. And I said,
Sure. And so we took another

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white shoot it up and swallowed
it. And you know, and that was

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kind of the end of it for about
five or six minutes. And then

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all of a sudden, out of the
blue, this guy

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turns beet red and starts
projectile vomiting.

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Well, he doesn't do that. But
that's a funny punchline. But

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anyway, so he turns beet red,
and he's like dying. Sweating is

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drinking water. I said, what
happened? He says, Well, I saw

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you I said it. He says, I didn't
eat the peppers. I just put them

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in my mouth and

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kind of kept them in his mouth.
Oh, no.

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And then he says, and then when
I saw that you ate them and

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swallow them with no problem
that I decided. I decided they

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can't, they can't be that hot.
And so I just took it personal.

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isn't one of those anecdotes?
Show her the audience? Even

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showing you how the immature
adults can be.

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So we were talking about this.
Back to the flu for a second. We

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were talking about that earlier
in the week. And you said

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something really interesting
after I made a comment. And you

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said it would be a great theme
for a book. And this is a theory

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that I've had for a long time is
that you know, every season, I'm

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sure some pharmaceutical
conspiracy throw shit into the

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air so that they can go sell all
the antidote.

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And I know you said that, and
it's a nut job. thing to say,

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but I was thinking well, what
wouldn't actually be a bad idea

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for a book or a crappy, you
know, TV show or something like

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that? Well,

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just think about it. So that,
you know, Patricia, as long as

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I've been married to her, she
and and even as long as I've

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known her. She's always gotten
the flu shot every single year.

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She's a big believer, I am not a
believer in the flu shot,

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because at least I wasn't a
believer in the flu shot.

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Because I'm like, How the hell
can they have this, this thing

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changes and morphs, it comes
back in different, at least this

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is what I think we're led to
believe is that when this flu

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comes back, and it's amazing how
it always comes back, kind of in

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the wintertime. But now these
flu jabs, which are not cheap.

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They weren't gods come on. 10
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but the 10 bucks. But they, but
they work right? Yeah, they do.

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Well, you know what you're now
you're changing your whole pitch

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here. And then on the other
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saying I'm saying that

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this is a form of it's a form of
extortion.

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Yes. Yeah. There you go.

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Yeah, no, I understand that.
I've thought that myself once in

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a while. It's like these guys
dream up these, you know, they

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go and it's actually for
typically for vaccines in a flu

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shot for four different versions
of the flu that they predict,

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based on epidemiology and some
other things. I don't know, is

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it really a prediction? Or do
they know what they're going to

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throw in the air? That's what
I'm saying.

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Let's say that's what you're
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people thinking that. I mean,
it's an interesting theory to

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consider. But I think if you
talk to a virologist, you might

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get a reasonable maybe she get
one on the show and somebody can

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explain to us how this actually
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believe from it that they have
to because of the way the flu

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perpetrates itself or gender or
self perpetrate is not the right

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word, but you know, spreads
itself. They don't have to do

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that what you're claiming people
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people sneeze on each other,
they don't, you know, use a

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Kleenex,

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the actual the actual flu
itself, right? I mean, this

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thing comes in, why does it
appear all of a sudden, why does

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the flu just appear? I mean, so,
so they know what it is because

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they can create the antidote for
it. Right? Vaccine, the vaccine,

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I like antidote sounds like it's
funny. In and then and then lo

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and behold, the virus shows up
but where does that virus

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originate from and how come it's
exactly the virus that they have

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the antidote for? China? Yet
Yet, you know, bird flu we can't

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figure out when that one hits. I
don't know. It just I just got a

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weird feeling about it. I don't
know.

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Well, I mean, I'd say I think a
lot of people are like you, you

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know misinformed. Blonde, really
not too interested in science or

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anything like

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No, not at all interested in
that kind of stuff. Forget about

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it. Why don't

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we get a virologist and we'll
talk to him and we'll figure

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this out and maybe educate
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You know, we don't usually
comment on news stories. But you

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know the story that's been
whipping around the blogosphere

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about the Ri a apparently some
lawyer in a court in the court

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case, stated that making a copy
of a CD. That would

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do, by the way, this is my, this
is my PC Magazine column for

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this week, by the way.

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Well, let me just see. Let me
just see if we're talking about

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the same thing.

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Yeah, we're talking about the
idea that if you rip now Wait,

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wait, stop. No,

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stop, John. No, no, I'm not
doing my research. Listen to

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this. Listen to this. It turns
out that the this this started

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in a Washington Post article
written by a guy named Fisher, I

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believe,

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I know, I know, I refer to this
article. And then Steve wells

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strim, at the Business Week, and
a few other guys had come out

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and said, has his bowl.

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No, not this doesn't No, no, no,
you're missing it. You. Listen

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to me. Now, let me finish this,
let me finish the sentence. He

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only he only cited half of the
quote, the quote that the person

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from the RIA made was, if you
rip a CD, put it on your hard

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drive in a shared folder. That
would be deemed illegal. And he

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chose not to quote that part in
the article that you didn't

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know.

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Well, okay.

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But that's it. But that's a big
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They have been skirting they
have it's a big deal for this

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particular episode. They have
been skirting around this

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possibility of finding some way
to condemn mp3 to some illegal

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status for some time, they talk
about every once in a while, and

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Wallstrom in at Businessweek
wrote this up. And then they

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cited the, you know, the there's
a US Code law that says that,

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you know, you're allowed to make
it was put into law, you're

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allowed to make copies for
personal use, and it went on and

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on. But if you read that law
very carefully, and I wrote this

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actually in a comment on the
business wiki site, if you read

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that very carefully, it
specifically says what you can

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make copies onto. And a computer
hard disk is not one of them

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under any circumstances. And I
believe that they're going to

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find some way because of the way
that law is written to skirt the

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personal copy. protection issue
because a hard disk is not

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protected by that law, the only
things that are required audio

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recording devices, whether
digital or analogue, not hard

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disks.

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I think you're downplaying my
point.

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I, I'm not downplaying it, I'm
ignoring it. When you're,

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you're gonna hate it, because
it's going to be bigger than the

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story. It's the journalist, the
journalist made a huge

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journalistic mistake and won't
admit it.

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Oh, well, that's an issue. And I
know what your point is, is that

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here's a guy that took a thing
out of context. And then he made

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a big store article out of it.
And meanwhile, it's like one of

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those deals where you misquote
somebody and you make a make a

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federal case out of it. Yeah.
Yeah, that's, you're right. It's

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a completely different point in
my point. But I still think that

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underlying the whole thing is
this is the RAS A's attempt to

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genuinely kill off the mp3.

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Wow, well, so is the reverse
also true if I buy tracks off of

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iTunes, and then I burn it to a
CD? Is that okay?

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No, no, that's all I know. I'm
done. I'm have no further use on

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this topic.

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I'm sorry. I was really
interested in the journalistic

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angle to it. That's what a

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journalistic angle is. He did a
bad thing. And he's probably got

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chewed out for it already, I'm
sure.

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Yeah. Well, he won't admit to
it, which is the interesting

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part about

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it. Well, that is that that
doesn't make sense. Generally

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speaking, your best bet is to
admit you screwed up as fast as

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you can, and then go back to the
point in the you know, that you

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were trying to make to begin
with and kind of prove that your

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screw up had nothing to do with
your point. It's what you try to

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do if you can, but if you're
obviously if the screw up is

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fundamental to the point, then
you're out of luck.

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I'm really nervous about a new
TSA initiative, John.

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Oh, here we go again. Yeah.

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You know, being a mild sufferer
of Tourette syndrome. The TSA

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has actually for a while now
apparently have initiated the

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spot programme which stands for
screening passengers by

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observation technique. I'm not
kidding. Listen, listen, listen

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to this. So it's been since
January 2006. Behaviour

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detection officers

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love that title. I wonder if
they like that. To get a

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business card, I think I'm
picking apart show business card

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that has that as my title

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behaviour detection officer have
referred about 70,000 people for

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secondary screening of those.
Now check this out about 600 to

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700. were arrested on a variety
of charges, including possession

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of drugs, weapons violations,
and outstanding warrants. And

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I'm like, wait a minute, maybe
I'm just nuts. But now we have

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the TSA just randomly choosing
you at the airport. And, and so

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and now if I'm carrying some
some prescription drugs without

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a prescription, you know, I can
get busted. I mean, what is

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this? It's just that Yeah. Isn't
that unreasonable search?

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Well, I think it's profiling,
but they've come up with a new

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way to circumvent the profiling
provisions. Interesting. But

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that's behaviour. I have to get
that behaviour. What is it

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again,

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it's Hold on, we go back to it.

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Behavioural observation officers
and behaviour detection officer

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behaviour detection officer.

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So questions like How are you
today? Where are you heading? Is

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this all your property? This is
saying this this article, it's a

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great article, but here's where
it was funny.

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I got a blog it. Yeah, you do.

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TSN. To emphasise the
sensitivity TSA is bringing to

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the programme. They had a
meeting with an association for

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people with Tourette's disorder
to assure them that having a

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tick will not result in a pat
down. So I'm gonna get a note

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from the doctor. So I'm sorry,
you you can't actually pat me

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down because I have Tourette
Syndrome.

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Unbelievable. You don't have the
cussing type so you have the

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Tourette's it results in like
one tick that's ridiculously

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minor. That's hardly noticeable.
That's it? Yeah. Well, are you a

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neat freak, most Tourette
Syndrome people, the ones that

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have a good case of it? Or if
above all need finance? No, not

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at all. Not at all, then you
don't even get the good

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advantage of it now.

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No. And it's in our family. It's
hereditary.

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We just have some you know,
okay, so you don't have the neat

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thing going no, no, it was a
good special on PBS about

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Teressa was quite quite an
interesting. And you know, the

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crazy progress. We're Tourette's
where people come

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out of the blue we just want the
kids you talking about the kids

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now as a whole, but it was just
a whole shows a few years ago,

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but it was a good education for
anyone who didn't understand

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what it was. Because you because
you can see some of these people

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once you want to say that guy's
got Tourette's you don't think

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much about it. Although I did
see a guy thrown off of an

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aeroplane for having it. Once
you witnessed that. Really?

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Yeah, no, the guy was coming. I
find I saw right from the get

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go. I mean, first he came. He
was just he was a mess. And he

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was he was cussing and

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funny. You can't help but laugh.

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Well, it was it was pretty it
was kind of amusing, but I felt

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sorry for the guy for being
thrown off the plane because he

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was obviously harmless. Yeah,
but but he was like, you know, a

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mess. And he was besides the
cussing. He was shaking and he

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couldn't roll his rolly cart so
he had the wheels upside down it

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was dragging along is bouncing
all over the place. It was like

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somebody's filming this for some
TV show. And they finally got on

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the plane and he and he couldn't
stop cussing and so they took

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him off

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well don't forget we do have the
no agenda drinking game. I mean,

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I I do a little bit of cussing.
Yeah, well, no but yeah, but

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yeah, there it is. It is very
very very mild. But there's

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sometimes guttural grunting or
there's all kinds of weird

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little shit and and mood for me
it's it moves around all over

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the place. You know for all it's
it's not consistent. Never has

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been it's in variations degrees.
It's It's really weird. And but

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there was a I think it was. I
don't know if it was a PBS

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special. There was a special
special about kids with Tourette

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and my my cousin's son Connor
was like the main the main

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character main character yeah of
this special it's rich. It's a

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very very good I'll see if I can
find I'm sure it's on Google

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Video.

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Maybe that's what I see maybe
what I saw but I think not much

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because it was gross. It was
pretty I thought it was more

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about adults actually. But does
I mean I've not seen that one

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but I want you to see that you
understand what that is that not

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as

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no one really no one really
understands it John there's no

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I'm saying as

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a as a member of the public that
that doesn't suffer from it.

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When you somebody with it. You
know, it's not like a big deal.

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No, and it's it's very
identifiable once you get

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familiarised with it, too. Yep.
And I wouldn't have identified

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your whatever that Do one tick
you have anything other than

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just a nervous? Tic that shows
up once in a while?

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Yeah, but it moves around. You
can go from my shoulder or

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whatever.

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I just thought you were uptight.

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Yeah, that's unfortunate,
because I'm pretty fucking laid

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back, John. Finally, just so you
know. Ah, there we go. Yes. Nice

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one.

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Alright, so what else we got on
the agenda here?

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I don't know you have anything
specific. I

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was looking at some stuff that I
didn't cover in my tech five

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reports. There's a bunch of
weird stuff going on. It's not

441
00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:43,020
necessarily news related. It's
just kind of trends. I noticed

442
00:25:43,020 --> 00:25:46,110
one thing I'm doing on tech five
as I'm, I'm finding all these

443
00:25:46,110 --> 00:25:49,980
laundry lists at the end of the
year. It's like very popular the

444
00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:53,820
eight things about this the nine
things? I heard it I seven

445
00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:56,580
things. Yeah, well, they have
and they're always there's a

446
00:25:56,580 --> 00:25:59,610
formula, which is what
fascinates me is that the last

447
00:25:59,610 --> 00:26:03,570
item always sucks as an item.
It's like they ran out of

448
00:26:03,570 --> 00:26:08,220
material and they make something
up. And without exception.

449
00:26:09,660 --> 00:26:14,550
I was kind of happy. I was I was
sick during the day, during the

450
00:26:14,550 --> 00:26:17,820
Olden you know, the New Year's
switchover? Because I couldn't

451
00:26:17,850 --> 00:26:22,830
then resort to creating one of
my own. Yeah. It's not just in

452
00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:26,040
newspapers, it's every
everyone's fucking web log, you

453
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,520
know, everyone's doing it. And
I'm so so so sick of it.

454
00:26:30,540 --> 00:26:33,000
Yeah, I mean, I used to work at
a couple of places where they

455
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,400
required it, you know, you're a
columnist, you have to do a

456
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,460
deal. What's going to happen
next year predictions. And I

457
00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:41,340
remember the one I wrote some
years ago, it was like, you know

458
00:26:41,340 --> 00:26:44,130
that predictions? Are all if
anybody's any good at predicting

459
00:26:44,130 --> 00:26:46,620
this because they have insight
information. It's not predicting

460
00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:49,260
anything. Yeah. Because
especially with high tech, it's

461
00:26:49,260 --> 00:26:52,260
just impossible. And the one
thing that is being ignored and

462
00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:54,330
I've been harping on this a
little bit in some of my

463
00:26:54,330 --> 00:26:57,630
columns, is that there's the
switch that people are making

464
00:26:57,630 --> 00:27:00,330
subtly that no one's ever said,
this is a major trend when I

465
00:27:00,330 --> 00:27:03,420
think it's the biggest trend in
the industry, to switch over

466
00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:07,080
from desktop computers to laptop
computers, used as desktop

467
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,830
computers. Yeah, almost
everybody had pod show except

468
00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:15,480
me. Because I have a Mac on iMac
with two screens. And I don't

469
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:19,440
feel like I should be dragging a
laptop all over the place. But

470
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,960
everybody except me, as far as
that maybe I think Garcia maybe

471
00:27:24,990 --> 00:27:28,470
doesn't have a laptop. I'm not
sure. But anyway, the rest of

472
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:31,860
the everybody has uses laptops.
And they maybe they hook a big

473
00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:34,080
screen to him. Most of the time.
They don't even do that. They

474
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,080
just use those crappy little
laptop screen, the crappy little

475
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,830
laptop keyboard, I can't take
it. And they're all hunched over

476
00:27:40,830 --> 00:27:44,310
these things. And everybody in
most businesses now are using

477
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:46,770
laptops instead of desktops
because the laptops are more

478
00:27:46,770 --> 00:27:48,150
powerful in many cases.

479
00:27:48,180 --> 00:27:51,330
Are you really sure about that?
That? I mean, when you say most

480
00:27:51,330 --> 00:27:53,460
businesses, I mean, you're
talking really enterprise

481
00:27:53,970 --> 00:27:56,460
to ask around. I'm asking around
more and more and more, and I'm

482
00:27:56,460 --> 00:28:00,120
getting more and more of this
depart show. offices are just

483
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:04,470
the, you know, one of many
places when given the

484
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:09,540
opportunity. People wake up,
yeah, they choose the laptop,

485
00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:11,970
they take the laptop home, they
have everything they want on a

486
00:28:11,970 --> 00:28:15,720
laptop, they lose the laptop,
and then they're screwed. Yep.

487
00:28:16,890 --> 00:28:19,110
They don't back things up
properly. With a laptop, you

488
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:21,570
really have to be conscientious.
You should have it password

489
00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:23,730
protected. So if somebody steals
that they can't take all your

490
00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:26,670
data. And you I mean, you
definitely should do nobody does

491
00:28:26,670 --> 00:28:29,790
that. Nobody backs it up. It's a
disaster waiting to happen for

492
00:28:29,790 --> 00:28:34,020
most people. But it's but what's
weird to me is that the trend

493
00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:36,930
kind of took I think Scott every
just taken everyone by surprise.

494
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,620
I mean, I've been a laptop guy
only four years. I mean, I don't

495
00:28:43,620 --> 00:28:47,850
even remember the last time I
had a desktop. It's to me that's

496
00:28:47,850 --> 00:28:50,100
quite normal. And all the
companies that I've had in the

497
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:54,930
last 10 years it was I think all
laptops even. Yeah, even from

498
00:28:54,930 --> 00:28:55,890
the mid 90s.

499
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:59,040
Well, the crossover point for
sales from laptops to desktop

500
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,800
has only been within the last
couple of years. So not

501
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,160
everybody was that advanced, but
it's an obvious trend to me and

502
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,310
it's you know, I still I guess
I'm just gonna be the old

503
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:11,070
fashion guy because I still have
a laptop that I use I

504
00:29:11,070 --> 00:29:13,980
synchronise it with the desktop
when I travel, I take the laptop

505
00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:17,580
and I use it for mostly email
and some surfing and stuff like

506
00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:22,050
that. But I don't want to you if
I can have a big screen and a

507
00:29:22,050 --> 00:29:24,930
big powerful desktop like for
example the machine I'm on now

508
00:29:24,930 --> 00:29:29,370
which runs the this you know, I
run I run a whole app through

509
00:29:29,370 --> 00:29:34,200
it. I've got like two DVD
burners one that's a two sided

510
00:29:34,590 --> 00:29:38,760
and I have a couple of three and
a half inch drives and I have a

511
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,130
five and a quarter inch drive on
this thing for finding you

512
00:29:41,130 --> 00:29:43,830
because I want some I find an
old disc I need to convert it.

513
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:48,750
You know it's a pretty powerful
you just got a lot of USB ports

514
00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:52,590
and some other connectivity.
It's fast. It's got a terabyte

515
00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:56,010
in it. I mean, it just seems to
me that I would rather have this

516
00:29:56,010 --> 00:29:59,790
than a crappy little laptop that
I'm hunched over. I don't know

517
00:29:59,820 --> 00:30:03,150
man Maybe I'm getting I'm just
out of out of the I don't know.

518
00:30:03,180 --> 00:30:03,750
No, no,

519
00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:07,920
that's cool. But just on the
laptop thing, I really enjoyed

520
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,430
your article about the One
Laptop per Child like totally

521
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:11,940
agree,

522
00:30:12,750 --> 00:30:15,660
though that the Yeah, I got it I
got a lot of that's one of those

523
00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:16,020
artists, you

524
00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:17,700
got a lot of negative negativity
for it, I'll

525
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:22,380
bet you gotta get the mix that
absolute split down the middle

526
00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:26,400
type of response. I'm an idiot
for suggesting it. These people

527
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,150
are trying to do good work and
I'm in their way, which I always

528
00:30:30,180 --> 00:30:33,570
find to be bold. I'm not in
anybody's way. I'm just saying

529
00:30:33,570 --> 00:30:36,720
stuff. And then there's other
guys. Uh, yeah, this is a crock.

530
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,790
And you're right on the money. I
mean, there's nobody in the

531
00:30:38,790 --> 00:30:41,580
middle in any way. And it's just
like, you're an idiot, or

532
00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:45,570
you're, you're a great guy kind
of thing and expect like an

533
00:30:45,570 --> 00:30:46,140
article. That

534
00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:48,630
was good though. I enjoyed that.
It's just Well, here's one thing

535
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:50,700
I promised I was going to
promise myself I was going to

536
00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:54,030
talk to you about because, you
know, when I was sick, I was

537
00:30:54,030 --> 00:30:56,490
watching, you know, of course,
you know, is laying there in bed

538
00:30:56,490 --> 00:30:59,550
watching tonnes of conspiracy
videos. No, not much more to do.

539
00:31:00,450 --> 00:31:03,960
And to make yourself crazy, by
the way, listen to that stuff.

540
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:07,050
I actually believe my I have.
I've throttled back because

541
00:31:07,050 --> 00:31:11,670
you're right, you go absolutely
bonkers from it. But I did run

542
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:14,280
across a reference that came
back a couple times. And I

543
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,710
started to do some research now
because of course, I'd planned

544
00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:19,860
to the show tomorrow. I don't
have everything done, but the

545
00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:23,280
origin of the name Al kinda do
you know what that is?

546
00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:27,810
Did you ever get that Dead video
I sent you from the BBS dude.

547
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,420
That's what that's that's what
started me off. I watched all

548
00:31:30,420 --> 00:31:34,920
three of them. He made the power
of nightmares. Yeah, yeah. No,

549
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,200
that was that was very good.
That was very I posted. Thanks

550
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,820
for reading my fucking weblog.
John. I even credited you

551
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,150
know, I don't read a lot. I'm a
writer. I write I don't read. So

552
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,620
my reading days are over. I'm a
lover, not a fighter. Anyway,

553
00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:56,700
exactly the same. So the origin
Yeah, al Qaeda. Do

554
00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:58,140
you know the origins? You do?

555
00:31:58,170 --> 00:32:01,500
Yeah, I do. Because I saw those
same specials. But did you do

556
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:04,440
any research into this to make
it to verify this information?

557
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:09,270
Well, so that's, that's what my
whole preamble was. I did find a

558
00:32:09,270 --> 00:32:11,250
couple of articles. The
Guardian, I would say is

559
00:32:11,250 --> 00:32:16,350
reasonably trustworthy wing yet?
Well, yeah. Well, left wing, but

560
00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:21,030
but the fact let me just read
this to you. Because it's about

561
00:32:21,030 --> 00:32:23,610
Bin Laden. Right. So Bin Laden
was through a product of

562
00:32:24,270 --> 00:32:27,330
monumental miscalculation by
Western students throughout the

563
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:27,990
ADM Oh, wait,

564
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:30,600
wait, wait, wait before I think
you'd better preface to the

565
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,360
listeners out there, what the
answer to the question is,

566
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,270
before you start to document the
answer and know the answer

567
00:32:36,270 --> 00:32:39,390
to the question is coming up in
this next sentence. Okay, go.

568
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,050
It's just what the Okay, the
answer is, it stands for the

569
00:32:43,050 --> 00:32:47,940
database. That's the answer.
It's is it like it's Arabic for

570
00:32:47,970 --> 00:32:52,740
for the database. And the reason
why is throughout the 80s, bin

571
00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:56,370
Laden was armed by the CIA,
funded by the Saudis to wage

572
00:32:56,370 --> 00:32:59,670
jihad against the Russian
occupation of Afghanistan. Al

573
00:32:59,670 --> 00:33:03,870
Qaeda, literally, the database
was originally the computer file

574
00:33:03,870 --> 00:33:07,590
of the 1000s of Mujahideen, who
were recruited and trained with

575
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:14,820
help from the CIA to defeat the
Russians. So okay, so the name

576
00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:19,230
Al Qaeda originated with the
CIA, according to this.

577
00:33:21,810 --> 00:33:25,920
Yeah, well, those documentaries
from the BBC claim that the that

578
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,890
even after the early events that
took place against American

579
00:33:31,890 --> 00:33:35,100
facilities, like the embassies,
and whatever were, the al Qaeda

580
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:39,030
name came up, that were the ones
who who foisted the name on

581
00:33:39,030 --> 00:33:39,540
them.

582
00:33:39,810 --> 00:33:44,550
Exactly. So but but it's, it's
been, it's been marketed very

583
00:33:44,550 --> 00:33:48,930
differently from what it is. And
when they first came out and

584
00:33:48,930 --> 00:33:52,140
said, it's al Qaeda, it
basically means Yeah, the list

585
00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:53,910
of guys that we gave money to,

586
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,600
right? I would have to assume
so.

587
00:33:57,660 --> 00:34:01,800
But if you ask anyone, what is
Al Qaeda, they immediately

588
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,760
imagine this, you know, this
complex network of terror cells

589
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,880
throughout the entire world of
sleeper cells that are going to

590
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,380
pop up and annihilate us all you
know, it's been marketed as as

591
00:34:13,380 --> 00:34:16,350
you know, this this group you
know, the guys in the I love

592
00:34:16,350 --> 00:34:18,510
that every single time they're
shown out they talk about an

593
00:34:18,540 --> 00:34:21,480
outside a training camp. You see
those guys on the monkey bars?

594
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,950
Don't you love that video?
Season guys with hoods on on

595
00:34:25,950 --> 00:34:28,980
fucking monkey bars, like, okay,
yeah, that's really frightening.

596
00:34:29,850 --> 00:34:34,890
But to me, it's just, it's like,
wow, I totally believed al Qaeda

597
00:34:34,890 --> 00:34:38,970
was like, No, this name of this,
you know, these guys like, you

598
00:34:38,970 --> 00:34:43,620
know, al Qaeda is the same as
mean other like the IRA. You

599
00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:46,290
know what I'm saying like a
terrorist group, but it's not it

600
00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:49,920
was just a fucking name of the
database of the Mujahideen that

601
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,980
the CIA funded. That's to me is,
is a revelation.

602
00:34:53,579 --> 00:34:57,419
But since Yeah, well, but since
then, haven't the people

603
00:34:57,419 --> 00:35:01,889
involved with bin Laden, kind of
adapt? opted are in fact co

604
00:35:01,889 --> 00:35:06,779
opted their name and perhaps use
it. Because I think I think

605
00:35:06,779 --> 00:35:10,949
AlJazeera uses it as a, as a
name of an organisation now and

606
00:35:10,979 --> 00:35:12,359
I mean things change.

607
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,869
No, I understand but that's the
beauty of it. And you know, they

608
00:35:15,869 --> 00:35:19,289
threw a fucking media virus into
the ether on its stock. I mean

609
00:35:19,289 --> 00:35:22,799
that does it makes meme a meme.
Yeah, but it makes no

610
00:35:22,799 --> 00:35:26,249
difference. I'm just amazed that
to me, it's just another little

611
00:35:26,579 --> 00:35:29,609
little tick the box there as to
how all this all this shit was

612
00:35:29,609 --> 00:35:33,539
orchestrated. I mean, that's a
that's a that's a good job on on

613
00:35:33,539 --> 00:35:36,599
pumping that one out there that
people now have this al Qaeda

614
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:39,509
meme and they believe that it
really is this true terror

615
00:35:39,509 --> 00:35:41,729
network? That's pretty
impressive.

616
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,210
Well, you gotta do something to
get the people riled up.

617
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:48,120
I'll do some more research on
it.

618
00:35:49,110 --> 00:35:51,000
Yeah, I think it needs you. I
don't think I don't know if

619
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,180
there's anyone's explored it to
the nth degree, because I'm sure

620
00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:58,560
you could actually find some one
person. If you really did your

621
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,500
homework. I hate to use that
term, because it's not really

622
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:05,730
homework. But if you actually
didn't have research, you could

623
00:36:05,730 --> 00:36:09,060
probably narrow it down to some
one guy. Unless, of course, it's

624
00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:15,990
very deep within the confines of
the of Langley. But I would

625
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:18,570
assume that, you know, somebody
came up with this bright idea,

626
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:19,530
calling it that.

627
00:36:19,830 --> 00:36:23,940
Yeah. Well, that's all sorry.
I'm sorry. No, go ahead. No, I

628
00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:26,730
was just say those documentaries
are fantastic that now who is

629
00:36:26,730 --> 00:36:29,400
the name of that guy that
produces those people should

630
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,260
look him up? Because they have
most of them on YouTube? They're

631
00:36:31,260 --> 00:36:36,150
quite good. Yeah, the one I
linked to here, he's new one on

632
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:38,940
fear is good. And there's a
couple other ones I have to

633
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:39,990
we'll have to add

634
00:36:39,989 --> 00:36:42,959
them to Curtis. That's his name.
Adam Curtis Curtis. Right. He

635
00:36:42,959 --> 00:36:44,519
has a new one on fear. Is that
what you said?

636
00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:46,950
He's got another one out.
That's, that's really

637
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:49,860
outstanding son fear or fear of
the politics of fear or

638
00:36:49,860 --> 00:36:52,410
something like that as another
three or four parter goes on

639
00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:56,580
forever. But in with him, you
know, he does the voiceover. And

640
00:36:57,510 --> 00:37:00,450
he's got this really interesting
voice because it's got the

641
00:37:00,450 --> 00:37:03,990
cynicism built into it. The
tones. I enjoyed

642
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:06,150
it thoroughly. I mean, it was
they were they were the

643
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:09,420
documentaries were well, well
put together, for sure. I really

644
00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:10,200
liked watching him.

645
00:37:10,980 --> 00:37:13,530
Yeah. And he has and he uses
sound effects much the way you

646
00:37:13,530 --> 00:37:17,640
and I do here and there, which
is always hilarious. And he uses

647
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,690
that boying boy,

648
00:37:19,710 --> 00:37:21,780
you know, there was another
documentary I was watching,

649
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:26,010
while bedridden. And it was,
it's funny, because it was

650
00:37:26,010 --> 00:37:31,140
called, always about the binge
drinking here in the UK. And,

651
00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:34,740
you know, this, this new year,
celebration all time high, I

652
00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:39,030
think the record was at 1.5 100
calls per second, we're coming

653
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:42,390
into the emergency services
about people who, you know,

654
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,020
basically alcohol related
problems at that very moment,

655
00:37:46,290 --> 00:37:50,190
like dying of poisoning, etc.
But alcohol poisoning and and

656
00:37:50,190 --> 00:37:53,340
it's just, um, but this
documentary was unbelievable.

657
00:37:54,810 --> 00:37:59,970
People of Britain, you're
killing yourselves. It's, it's

658
00:37:59,970 --> 00:38:01,350
an epidemic, John.

659
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:08,370
How much drinking does it
entail? Oh, hold on. Oh, you do?

660
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:10,740
Yeah.

661
00:38:11,369 --> 00:38:14,219
I rolled over the headphone
wire, and then my head like, got

662
00:38:14,219 --> 00:38:20,399
stuck between my knees. Sorry.
Well, you know, so they had this

663
00:38:20,399 --> 00:38:25,079
girl, she's the singer for some
non ignant important pop group

664
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:27,809
Liberty acts, you know,
basically needed a gig. And they

665
00:38:27,809 --> 00:38:30,599
follow her phone was one of
these 30 Day deals like format,

666
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:32,879
and so they follow her for 30
days, while she just binge

667
00:38:32,879 --> 00:38:36,059
drinks with everyone else and,
you know, keeps along pace. And

668
00:38:36,059 --> 00:38:39,569
then, you know, they basically
follow her physical, but also

669
00:38:39,569 --> 00:38:41,639
our mental abilities. And of
course, you know, you know,

670
00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:44,849
what's going to happen and how
they decline and et cetera, but

671
00:38:44,849 --> 00:38:49,529
just looking at, and of course,
you know, it's just one view,

672
00:38:49,529 --> 00:38:53,309
and it's edited to show a lot of
bad shit. So, you know, but, but

673
00:38:53,309 --> 00:38:56,279
I do have a 17 year old
daughter, and, you know, she

674
00:38:56,279 --> 00:38:59,339
tells me everything, and this is
actually happening everywhere

675
00:38:59,339 --> 00:39:03,659
and it's bad. What happened?
Well, what happens is, the

676
00:39:03,659 --> 00:39:06,419
Brits, I'm just going to
generalise for a second, they

677
00:39:06,419 --> 00:39:10,919
like to they the consensus that
I got from the documentary is

678
00:39:11,219 --> 00:39:14,849
that the Brits, only real few
really feel comfortable

679
00:39:15,059 --> 00:39:21,329
socialising when they're drunk.
They and but, but it's okay.

680
00:39:21,329 --> 00:39:22,739
It's not like they they're not

681
00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:26,850
driving it. Then they have to
write do they have to be quote

682
00:39:26,850 --> 00:39:28,080
unquote, drunk?

683
00:39:28,110 --> 00:39:33,420
Yeah, no, yeah. Drunk. Like
drunk. Yeah. Like, yeah, like

684
00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:37,380
one beer? No, it has to be like
eight eight beers, you know? And

685
00:39:38,010 --> 00:39:41,190
it's unshared. Right. eight
pints. Oh, John, you have no

686
00:39:41,610 --> 00:39:46,170
idea how much people can put
away here. And I've talked to a

687
00:39:46,170 --> 00:39:48,630
lot of Brits about it, and they
say, hey, it's our culture, you

688
00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:53,910
know, and look, it's okay. But
and by the way, the majority of

689
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:57,690
the Brits, you know, hold their
liquor with decency. And with

690
00:39:57,690 --> 00:40:01,200
that, I mean, they don't all get
rowdy. In fight, they don't all

691
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,180
projectile vomit. They don't all

692
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:06,990
the Irish who are I've been in
many of British pub and an Irish

693
00:40:06,990 --> 00:40:09,720
guy comes up to you and he
starts yelling exactly, no,

694
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:13,290
no. I mean, and in fact, I have
a he hasn't called him in a

695
00:40:13,290 --> 00:40:15,990
while, but I had Charles the
drunken Londoner who would call

696
00:40:16,050 --> 00:40:20,490
my show completely fucking
hammered, you know, and, and he

697
00:40:20,490 --> 00:40:23,250
was great. You know, in fact, he
started calling sober and he

698
00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:29,850
wasn't that funny anymore. But
but, you know, so they're,

699
00:40:29,850 --> 00:40:33,810
they're happy drunks, then I got
no problem with it. But man,

700
00:40:33,810 --> 00:40:36,600
they're fun. You're killing
yourself. It's just, it's, it's

701
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,500
unbelievable that it's gotten to
a very, very, I think, a

702
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:43,110
critical point. And meanwhile,

703
00:40:44,190 --> 00:40:46,470
Well, isn't that why they used
to close the pubs early, and

704
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:48,780
then they changed the law now
you can drink all the time. Now

705
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:49,380
it's 24

706
00:40:49,380 --> 00:40:54,660
hours. Yeah, but it doesn't
really matter. It the increase

707
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:57,150
is not because of that,
necessarily. I don't think

708
00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:58,410
that it's a coincidence.

709
00:40:58,409 --> 00:41:03,629
I mean, that there's been lots
of studies and you know, some

710
00:41:03,629 --> 00:41:07,409
places are you know, turning it
back and I don't think it's

711
00:41:07,409 --> 00:41:10,349
mandatory you know, you can you
can set a curfew in in a

712
00:41:10,349 --> 00:41:14,699
municipality, I guess, if you
want to, but it starts early,

713
00:41:14,699 --> 00:41:18,389
you know, it's, it's, you know,
let's let's drink eight pints

714
00:41:18,389 --> 00:41:22,079
or, you know, what I saw on the
documentary 1818 pints, no,

715
00:41:22,169 --> 00:41:23,549
1818. Up

716
00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:27,750
and up. BBP. And all day? Yeah,
well, well, you know, there's a

717
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:30,150
lot of cultures like review go
and people I don't think

718
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:32,040
Americans especially don't
understand this because, you

719
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,030
know, we don't really like to. I
mean, it's a funny gag to say

720
00:41:36,030 --> 00:41:38,520
that you drink during the day,
but most people don't even drink

721
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,400
usually at lunch and I find it
difficult to have even a couple

722
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,480
glasses of wine and a big lunch
because I get low GI Yeah, I

723
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,120
can't you know, I'm like tired.
I gotta take a nap. I mean, the

724
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,610
French can do it. Because they,
you know, they take most of

725
00:41:50,610 --> 00:41:51,090
their

726
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:57,030
cars, they get to work, man.
They're lazy French fuck house.

727
00:41:57,690 --> 00:42:00,930
But the culture is somewhat
different. And your engineering

728
00:42:00,930 --> 00:42:05,430
you do things differently there.
But anyway. Where was I going

729
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:08,880
with this? I got interrupted by
an im from someone and I get the

730
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,140
phone ringing. So let that go.
Now you actually can pause this

731
00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:19,740
for one second. Or you just want
me to know I'm paused. Anyway,

732
00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:22,290
so I was rudely interrupted by
someone sending me an I am

733
00:42:22,290 --> 00:42:25,740
telling me I made a bunch of
money on a stock. So I've lost

734
00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:27,480
my train of thought because of
that, because that never

735
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,980
happens. So anyway, so if people
don't know Americans don't know,

736
00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:34,410
you know, we're we're pretty
circumspect about how we drink.

737
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,300
I mean, that doesn't mean that
people don't get drunk but and

738
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:39,180
it is probably more of a problem
if you wait until like nine

739
00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:41,850
o'clock and then just start at,
you know, pounding drinks, which

740
00:42:41,850 --> 00:42:45,630
I think people do. But like in
Europe, like in Denmark, for

741
00:42:45,630 --> 00:42:48,270
example, I was first time I went
to Denmark, which was done an

742
00:42:48,270 --> 00:42:50,760
over a decade ago, I should go
into the airport because I did

743
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:57,810
get an early flight out. And I'm
at the airport at eight 830 And

744
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,650
everybody's drinking Carlsberg.
You know, they all have their

745
00:43:01,650 --> 00:43:06,180
beers. For breakfast. Yeah. And
I'm thinking, well, that's kind

746
00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:07,080
of interesting.

747
00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:10,590
Oh, the Dutch, the Dutch Prince,
when he was still alive every

748
00:43:10,590 --> 00:43:12,360
morning, he would have a
Heineken beer.

749
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,820
Yeah. Prince in the morning.

750
00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:17,370
Yeah, in the morning for
breakfast.

751
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,079
Well, you know, it's a it's a
thought. Yeah,

752
00:43:22,139 --> 00:43:29,939
I think I'll try that. It's a
lifestyle choice. Anyway, you

753
00:43:29,939 --> 00:43:34,169
know, from a social perspective,
this country also happens to

754
00:43:34,169 --> 00:43:39,539
have an enormously high divorce
rate. There's tonnes of kids

755
00:43:39,539 --> 00:43:43,109
that are shuttled back and forth
between moms and dads and

756
00:43:43,139 --> 00:43:46,529
cousins and uncles. I mean, it's
an island, right? It is a

757
00:43:46,529 --> 00:43:53,759
fucking Island. And, and, and
sexual health is also not too

758
00:43:53,759 --> 00:43:56,819
fantastic here because people
are so fucking drunk. You know,

759
00:43:56,819 --> 00:44:00,029
they don't wear protection.
Their teenage pregnancy is

760
00:44:00,059 --> 00:44:03,869
outrageously high. I mean, it's,
it's.

761
00:44:05,310 --> 00:44:07,050
So I don't know how many years
everything I've been people have

762
00:44:07,050 --> 00:44:08,850
to realise when we're talking
about somebody drinking eight

763
00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:13,260
pints, which are these big giant
beer glasses, or 18 Is that the

764
00:44:13,260 --> 00:44:17,970
beer which is actually ale in
England mostly, is very high and

765
00:44:17,970 --> 00:44:22,380
alcohol often. It's not the 3.2
crap that we get in the United

766
00:44:22,380 --> 00:44:26,130
States. It's more like six
sometimes 7% Oh, yeah, no, it's

767
00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:26,700
real good.

768
00:44:26,729 --> 00:44:28,499
It's at least five five

769
00:44:28,529 --> 00:44:32,699
so 18 pints is like eight and a
half litres.

770
00:44:34,530 --> 00:44:38,580
Yeah, that's a that would be a
lot of alcohol. And that would

771
00:44:38,580 --> 00:44:42,270
be like drinking a bolo or buy a
whole bottle of vodka, maybe

772
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:43,590
something like that. I'm not
sure

773
00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:46,620
but that's that's what that's
what people do, John. I'm not

774
00:44:46,620 --> 00:44:51,960
kidding you. Yeah, yeah. So you
learn something new.

775
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,040
Yeah, well, I'd be I've gone pub
crawling. When I go to London

776
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,440
with you. There's some of my
friends there and I will float

777
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,770
around but generally speaking
Especially an after work pub

778
00:45:01,770 --> 00:45:05,400
crawl consists of you know, you
actually have two pints Do you

779
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,010
have one at one pub and then you
go visit another and then you

780
00:45:08,010 --> 00:45:10,590
find another probably want to
stay and you have another pint.

781
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,220
Yeah. And that's it. Because if
you have a third pie which you

782
00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:17,100
know, like people love to see
you want to float around and

783
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:21,240
have three pints of beer, it
will affect your it will affect

784
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:26,490
your sense of balance. And other
thing just you know, pretty

785
00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:29,670
fast. I mean, you can do too and
you have to you don't just

786
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:33,420
guzzle them. You do a couple. I
mean, you can drink one faster,

787
00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:36,450
you're thirsty, but generally
speaking, I mean, you could stay

788
00:45:36,450 --> 00:45:39,420
out all night, I guess. But
eight? Yeah, I don't even know

789
00:45:39,420 --> 00:45:41,790
how you can manage it. Yeah,
well, I mean, I'd be drilling I

790
00:45:41,790 --> 00:45:43,860
would be throwing up a night and
I know how to drink.

791
00:45:44,820 --> 00:45:49,080
Well, we're all going to be
safe. John. This just came in.

792
00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:56,970
So happy about this 10s of 1000s
of airline passenger jets will

793
00:45:56,970 --> 00:46:04,110
soon be flying with anti missile
systems courtesy that make

794
00:46:04,110 --> 00:46:05,580
courtesy of the TSA

795
00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:09,450
what does that supposed to mean?

796
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,620
Well here Well, the it's exactly
what it means the here three

797
00:46:13,620 --> 00:46:18,330
American Airlines have already
been outfitted they fly daily

798
00:46:18,330 --> 00:46:21,420
round routes between New York
and California anti missile

799
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:23,880
jamming laser jammers.

800
00:46:26,070 --> 00:46:30,390
God that's that's that's not
encouraging.

801
00:46:31,980 --> 00:46:36,270
It said let me see what it is.
Uh oh, it's it's uh oh of course

802
00:46:36,300 --> 00:46:41,370
because we want to we want to
jam shoulder fired fired

803
00:46:41,370 --> 00:46:44,070
missiles. Can you believe this
short

804
00:46:44,610 --> 00:46:47,940
who manufactured those shoulder
fired missiles in the first

805
00:46:47,940 --> 00:46:48,510
place? Well,

806
00:46:48,810 --> 00:46:53,370
I'm sure some fine American
company manufactured them. Here

807
00:46:53,370 --> 00:46:56,610
it is all the although there has
not been an attempt to take down

808
00:46:56,610 --> 00:46:59,520
a jet on US soil with the
shoulder fired missile Homeland

809
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:00,570
Security has a

810
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:06,750
lot of people still suspicious
of that TWA Flight which one the

811
00:47:06,750 --> 00:47:09,750
one that blew up bought so you
know after takeoff Oh in New

812
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:12,930
York became a big conspiracy
theorists.

813
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,330
I don't I think that was I've
seen the accident data on that.

814
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:23,520
I think that was a very
unfortunate rudder problem that

815
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,840
was later corrected will tank

816
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,650
exploded. That's what they claim
is like the fuel tanks blue. I

817
00:47:28,650 --> 00:47:31,620
feel what you mean the one that
landed like in Brooklyn. Now is

818
00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:34,440
the one that blew up in the
middle of the air is through TWA

819
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,010
Flight whatever it is seven
something or other 700 Maybe.

820
00:47:38,820 --> 00:47:44,490
Oh, that one. Oh, no. I thought
they already said that. That was

821
00:47:44,490 --> 00:47:48,270
a like a tape recorder that had
no that was pan and 103 Fuck I

822
00:47:48,270 --> 00:47:48,930
don't know, man.

823
00:47:49,110 --> 00:47:52,320
No, it was a it was the there
was the lowest.

824
00:47:53,790 --> 00:47:56,130
Right right off the coast of
Maine.

825
00:47:57,090 --> 00:47:59,880
Yeah, and then somebody's you
know, there was a witnesses that

826
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,570
said that they saw a missile,
you know, but then these guys

827
00:48:03,570 --> 00:48:06,030
were shut up by the government.
Nobody wanted to say anything

828
00:48:06,030 --> 00:48:09,360
after that. Right. Well,
whoever's making the hairstyle

829
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,090
and this is the one where Pierre
Salinger came out and you know

830
00:48:12,090 --> 00:48:16,020
the next president guy you know
presidential spokesperson for

831
00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:19,890
Kennedy comes out and says, he
says is a great government

832
00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:21,900
conspiracy because he got
suckered by one of these

833
00:48:21,900 --> 00:48:25,650
conspiracy websites and
humiliated himself. Oh, boy.

834
00:48:26,820 --> 00:48:27,300
Anyway,

835
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:30,900
so it'll only cost $1 million
per plane to have this

836
00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:33,870
installed. Oh, gee, I should get
into the missile jamming

837
00:48:33,870 --> 00:48:34,530
business.

838
00:48:34,830 --> 00:48:40,230
Good business shit Yeah.
Unbeliev so is this thing gonna

839
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:43,530
just be shooting laser rays down
at the public or what I don't

840
00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:43,950
understand.

841
00:48:44,580 --> 00:48:49,050
No, I think there's Well there's
two ways that you can and I

842
00:48:49,050 --> 00:48:51,150
guess the shoulder missiles so
they're either either they're

843
00:48:51,150 --> 00:48:54,990
heat seeking which then you use
what's called chaff which is

844
00:48:54,990 --> 00:48:58,560
basically like throwing
aluminium foil into the air and

845
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,280
that distracts the the missile
thinking it needs to go hit that

846
00:49:02,310 --> 00:49:06,630
or that wait, that's chapter
chapter that is hot chaff. Yeah,

847
00:49:06,930 --> 00:49:11,460
yeah, hot flares us not yet. The
flares and chaff and and then

848
00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:13,860
they're gonna jam the rain. I'm
like, What the fuck happens

849
00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:17,700
after the jet jams the radar,
then that thing comes back down

850
00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:18,750
to earth, though, doesn't it?

851
00:49:20,159 --> 00:49:21,959
There's nobody shooting missiles
at these planes.

852
00:49:24,060 --> 00:49:28,110
But what a fantastic this is.
Well, of course, this is off of

853
00:49:28,110 --> 00:49:32,610
AOL news. So what's the top of
their news today?

854
00:49:34,739 --> 00:49:40,439
Well, now we know we don't cover
the news. Yeah, you're right. So

855
00:49:40,439 --> 00:49:43,559
what else going on? I think
that's it. Yeah.

856
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,040
We could talk about the caucus,
but I don't really understand

857
00:49:47,370 --> 00:49:47,490
the

858
00:49:47,489 --> 00:49:50,459
caucuses. Who cares? This is
like, oh, you know, just a good

859
00:49:50,459 --> 00:49:53,099
thing to you know, these people.
It's it means nothing.

860
00:49:53,250 --> 00:49:55,320
I don't quite understand it
either. I

861
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,400
mean, we're glad the caucus is a
different system for picking

862
00:49:59,550 --> 00:50:01,920
represent You know, the way the
system works, we pick a bunch of

863
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,050
representatives they go to the
convention and they pick the guy

864
00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:06,420
who's going to run for the
office. And the way they do in

865
00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:09,150
Iowa is they use this caucusing
system which is a little

866
00:50:09,150 --> 00:50:11,940
different than voting because
you keep you can keep changing

867
00:50:11,940 --> 00:50:14,940
your vote. If you don't get if
the guy doesn't get a majority

868
00:50:14,940 --> 00:50:17,700
then you can and you vote for a
guy who only got 15% You can

869
00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:20,070
change your vote to somebody
else in the next round until

870
00:50:20,070 --> 00:50:22,620
they finally decide on who
they're going to pick. Right and

871
00:50:22,620 --> 00:50:27,210
it's a complicated process as
you know that's not the way it

872
00:50:27,210 --> 00:50:29,910
used to be in this with a smoke
filled rooms and I'm of the

873
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:33,690
opinion and I say this often is
that I think we had better

874
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:37,500
politicians running the country
when we were doing it via the

875
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:41,400
smoke filled rooms and people
were you know, people knew what

876
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,550
they were doing were rather than
the public or suckered by you

877
00:50:44,550 --> 00:50:45,900
know idiots

878
00:50:46,050 --> 00:50:48,810
by Huckabee playing bass on Leno

879
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:52,560
right and things like that. And
you know Britney Spears would be

880
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:57,870
the president you know if given
a shot and in the old days the

881
00:50:57,870 --> 00:51:01,350
olden days with the smoke filled
rooms cigar smoke filled by the

882
00:51:01,350 --> 00:51:05,730
way Yes. I thought gave it some
better people although you know,

883
00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:07,140
there's a bunch of boneheads
Ultra so

884
00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:11,040
how many states have have a
caucus then? 14 is only a couple

885
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,690
of or four, maybe just some
really old school thing that

886
00:51:15,690 --> 00:51:16,110
just kind of

887
00:51:16,110 --> 00:51:20,490
stuck away. Right. Right. And I
was the only one I know of i but

888
00:51:20,490 --> 00:51:21,120
that I could did all

889
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,740
the original. The original
states did they all caucus back

890
00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:26,760
in the day or was

891
00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:30,570
I you know, I should know. I
don't know. But I'm guessing

892
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,650
they probably did smoke filled
rooms mostly or they may have

893
00:51:34,650 --> 00:51:39,180
called it caucuses because the
way a caucus back in the day. Is

894
00:51:39,180 --> 00:51:42,900
that storm again just gonna blow
the screen out of here. Back in

895
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:48,450
the day, there is a the caucuses
were closed. These are open.

896
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:52,350
No. Okay. Well, Ron Paul
certainly sucked.

897
00:51:54,420 --> 00:51:55,740
I don't think he's gonna make
it.

898
00:51:56,250 --> 00:51:59,760
I don't understand how that
happens. He's not

899
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,850
the chosen boy. They got the old
things rigged. That's the way I

900
00:52:02,850 --> 00:52:03,180
see it.

901
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,050
Well, if it was truly rigged,
then then According to your

902
00:52:07,050 --> 00:52:10,260
theory, McCain would have I
talked to Patricia about McCain.

903
00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:14,489
Now McCain has to stay in third
because he's the he's the the

904
00:52:14,489 --> 00:52:18,389
horse running back in the pack.
So they don't, the negative

905
00:52:18,389 --> 00:52:21,659
media attention is not going to
be focused on him. And by the

906
00:52:21,659 --> 00:52:24,869
time all these other guys are
beaten to death by the system,

907
00:52:24,869 --> 00:52:25,289
Donald

908
00:52:25,290 --> 00:52:28,200
but that that's not that's when
Ron Paul is gonna sneak ahead

909
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,760
you watch that's when it's gonna
happen.

910
00:52:30,510 --> 00:52:32,040
He's already beaten to death.

911
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,780
I don't know. I mean, I have to
remain positive. First of all,

912
00:52:36,810 --> 00:52:40,680
if you say it's rigged, but you
know how so rigged?

913
00:52:41,550 --> 00:52:44,370
It's rigged. There's these guys
that have already chosen who's

914
00:52:44,370 --> 00:52:48,120
going to be running, and they
just make it happen. I don't

915
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,580
know how they do it. If I was
part of that system, I'd be

916
00:52:50,580 --> 00:52:51,720
wouldn't be talking to you.

917
00:52:53,369 --> 00:52:58,919
Thanks. You'd be out there.
Reagan more systems. Exactly.

918
00:52:58,949 --> 00:53:01,259
Yeah. making your life
miserable. I'd be saying, well,

919
00:53:01,259 --> 00:53:04,469
who's this curry guy? Let's put
them on a watch. Let's

920
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:07,830
fuck with him for a while. Yeah.
All right. So but then it's got

921
00:53:07,830 --> 00:53:10,950
to be rigged on the Democratic
side as well. Oh, absolutely.

922
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:13,140
Okay, so interesting.

923
00:53:13,139 --> 00:53:15,569
And here's the way I want to
tell you again, how I think

924
00:53:15,569 --> 00:53:18,179
that's gonna play out, it's
gonna be Hillary, but she's

925
00:53:18,179 --> 00:53:20,939
gonna have to concede to Obama,
so he becomes the vice

926
00:53:20,939 --> 00:53:23,909
presidential candidate. And so
it's going to be those are gonna

927
00:53:23,909 --> 00:53:25,919
be the two, I can't see it going
the other way around, because

928
00:53:25,919 --> 00:53:27,959
she's not going to be vice
president. You won't put up with

929
00:53:27,959 --> 00:53:31,559
that. But I think it's got to be
her as president and him as vice

930
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:34,679
president, which they can argue
you can rationalise that as an

931
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:37,139
unbeatable ticket, because you
get all the women and all the

932
00:53:37,139 --> 00:53:40,049
blacks to vote for this party.
And you know, for these two

933
00:53:40,049 --> 00:53:43,289
people, and you will win, you
know, statistically, except for

934
00:53:43,289 --> 00:53:45,389
the fact you're not going to get
all the blacks to vote for this

935
00:53:45,389 --> 00:53:47,729
guy, you're not going to get all
the women to vote for her by any

936
00:53:47,729 --> 00:53:51,479
means. And so the fact is, is
going to be actually an

937
00:53:51,479 --> 00:53:53,669
unelectable ticket because
there's going to be so much

938
00:53:53,669 --> 00:53:56,669
negative energy that that is
focused on that thing that

939
00:53:56,669 --> 00:53:58,889
whoever the Republican is will
win easily.

940
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,040
It's almost like a Hollywood
script. What you said by the

941
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,330
way, you should that description

942
00:54:03,330 --> 00:54:06,240
of what's going to happen you
should save a copy on your in

943
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:09,570
one of those folders are yours.
And so when after the election,

944
00:54:09,570 --> 00:54:12,990
we can play this old no agenda
and you can hear this again, you

945
00:54:12,990 --> 00:54:17,280
know, you know, a year later how
unbelievably accurate I am about

946
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:17,700
this stuff,

947
00:54:17,699 --> 00:54:22,109
right? But of course, so the
Democrats won't win, it'll be

948
00:54:22,139 --> 00:54:27,419
McCain who will who's going to
win because he will win the

949
00:54:27,449 --> 00:54:30,089
Republican ticket and who is his
VP gonna be?

950
00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:33,360
Well, I was initially thinking
Giuliani and I'm going to kind

951
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,090
of stick with that for a while
but whoever the Republican run

952
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,180
that runs is is going to win
that's for sure. And I'm gonna

953
00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:41,370
stay right now with the
prediction is going to be McCain

954
00:54:41,370 --> 00:54:45,870
at the top of the ticket and
he'll win no, against no matter

955
00:54:45,870 --> 00:54:48,240
who the Democrats run. They got
nobody I mean, were they going

956
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:50,910
to run John Edwards that guy? I
was listening to him after the

957
00:54:50,910 --> 00:54:58,110
thing that guy sounds coked up.
Y'all, so people kind of talk

958
00:54:58,110 --> 00:55:00,870
like this. Well, he's talking
like this Lowry like, he can't

959
00:55:00,870 --> 00:55:02,190
breathe through his nose and
maybe

960
00:55:02,190 --> 00:55:04,920
like maybe he has the norovirus.
Come on, man get

961
00:55:05,850 --> 00:55:07,800
up the projectile vomiting.
Yeah.

962
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,490
Very interesting. Well, I shall
certainly save this in one of my

963
00:55:11,490 --> 00:55:17,400
folders, one of my shared
folders. And, and, and we'll

964
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,860
see. Okay, well, I still have
hope. Yeah, I guess that's all I

965
00:55:22,860 --> 00:55:26,850
can have. And I can I can
continue to support Ron Paul.

966
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:29,730
You know, I think as long as
people are getting the message,

967
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,220
that'll work because, you know,
God forbid, if that really does,

968
00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:35,040
that scenario really does play
out. It's going to be a very

969
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,060
confused country.

970
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,290
Well, it doesn't make any
difference that there's more to

971
00:55:40,290 --> 00:55:44,340
the story that, you know, I'll
discuss in future episodes of

972
00:55:44,340 --> 00:55:45,150
this fine show.

973
00:55:45,210 --> 00:55:49,290
Oh, boy. Well, I can't wait. And
on that note, Mr. Dvorak, thank

974
00:55:49,290 --> 00:55:50,970
you very much for joining me.

975
00:55:52,530 --> 00:55:53,490
It's a pleasure

976
00:55:57,989 --> 00:56:01,499
coming to you from the curry
manor in the United Kingdom. Hi,

977
00:56:01,499 --> 00:56:02,279
I'm Adam curry.

978
00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:05,970
And I'm John C. Dvorak and
stormy indeed, Northern

979
00:56:05,970 --> 00:56:06,630
California.

980
00:56:07,110 --> 00:56:09,240
Have a great weekend, everybody.
We'll talk to you next week.

981
00:56:10,590 --> 00:56:13,980
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982
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