1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,560 Why waste good content? 2 00:00:01,620 --> 00:00:02,260 You never know. 3 00:00:02,700 --> 00:00:04,180 Might as well record it. 4 00:00:05,500 --> 00:00:09,720 Okay, so I'm back to call me, right? 5 00:00:10,900 --> 00:00:12,840 And where are you? 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,380 You're way down the list, we don't talk 7 00:00:14,380 --> 00:00:14,740 anymore. 8 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,340 Oh, that's not cool. 9 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,360 That should be your unique code. 10 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:23,500 Okay, that's not too long, that's not bad. 11 00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:23,880 Okay. 12 00:00:26,580 --> 00:00:28,080 Actually, very short code. 13 00:00:28,300 --> 00:00:30,040 They got like an 8-bit hash. 14 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,940 This is not hack proof. 15 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:33,540 No. 16 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:34,560 All right. 17 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,580 Are you connecting? 18 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,680 Oh, I lost you. 19 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:38,820 Oh, there you go. 20 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,060 Okay, I just, I just, I just did 21 00:00:42,060 --> 00:00:42,280 it. 22 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:42,840 Yeah. 23 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,240 I did call a Roadcaster and hit the, 24 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,420 and put in the code. 25 00:00:46,540 --> 00:00:46,920 Yeah. 26 00:00:47,140 --> 00:00:48,560 And then it just went back to the 27 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,800 call Roadcaster screen. 28 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,440 Hold on. 29 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:52,240 Hosting. 30 00:00:52,380 --> 00:00:53,720 Ah, no, I'm hosting. 31 00:00:54,060 --> 00:00:54,560 I'm hosting. 32 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:55,820 I'm hosting. 33 00:00:58,500 --> 00:00:58,980 Okay. 34 00:00:59,420 --> 00:01:01,020 I hit done and then it just. 35 00:01:01,460 --> 00:01:02,560 It does nothing. 36 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,980 It goes back to, do I have to 37 00:01:04,980 --> 00:01:05,840 hit another button? 38 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:06,960 Advanced. 39 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,220 Make, make a call. 40 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:09,120 Oh, okay. 41 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:09,480 Okay. 42 00:01:09,580 --> 00:01:10,800 Wait, are we doing it? 43 00:01:10,860 --> 00:01:11,440 Is this happening? 44 00:01:11,980 --> 00:01:13,840 Wait, did I just see something pop up? 45 00:01:14,100 --> 00:01:14,580 Hold on. 46 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,080 Call me configuration. 47 00:01:16,660 --> 00:01:17,560 I am hosting. 48 00:01:18,020 --> 00:01:20,100 Does your screen says you must be connected 49 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:21,540 to the internet to use call me? 50 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,680 If you're not connected to the internet, it's 51 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,640 not going to work. 52 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:28,320 But I am, I've got a cord in 53 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:28,780 the wall. 54 00:01:29,380 --> 00:01:30,980 Like what, what does yours say? 55 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:31,280 Okay. 56 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:32,620 You got the call me thing on one 57 00:01:32,620 --> 00:01:33,900 side and then you have this button that 58 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:35,520 says call me configuration, right? 59 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:35,920 Yeah. 60 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:36,700 On the, on the right. 61 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,120 Yeah. 62 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,900 Above that, what does it say? 63 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,880 Because mine says you must be connected to 64 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,380 the internet. 65 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,540 Mine says you're ready to go. 66 00:01:43,700 --> 00:01:44,640 Dave's no good. 67 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,680 Oh, well this is clearly my fault. 68 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:47,340 Well, hold on. 69 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,640 Let's, uh, so if you go to settings 70 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:55,000 system network, uh, I'm on the internet because 71 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,480 I downloaded the firmware update. 72 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,460 You stupid machine. 73 00:01:57,700 --> 00:01:59,380 I just check and look at your IP 74 00:01:59,380 --> 00:01:59,920 address. 75 00:02:00,140 --> 00:02:02,680 Are you behind some kind of firewall thingamabob? 76 00:02:03,420 --> 00:02:05,860 No, I mean just a NAT router like 77 00:02:05,860 --> 00:02:06,820 everybody else. 78 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:07,520 Let's see. 79 00:02:07,979 --> 00:02:09,240 System network. 80 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:10,420 It says connected. 81 00:02:11,220 --> 00:02:11,920 All right. 82 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:12,960 Advanced. 83 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:14,700 Uh, yeah, I got a, I've got a, 84 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:14,960 all right. 85 00:02:14,980 --> 00:02:16,000 How about an IP address? 86 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,440 How about if you switch on hosting? 87 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,180 Okay. 88 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:22,060 And give me your code and we'll try 89 00:02:22,060 --> 00:02:23,400 it and we'll try it in reverse. 90 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,280 Well, you did the, that code all uppercase. 91 00:02:26,460 --> 00:02:26,860 Yeah. 92 00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:29,420 I don't think I can, uh, wait, switch 93 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:30,000 on hosting. 94 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:32,220 You must be connected to the internet to 95 00:02:32,220 --> 00:02:32,660 use call me. 96 00:02:32,700 --> 00:02:33,960 I am connected to the internet. 97 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:35,200 No, you're not, man. 98 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:35,800 Obviously. 99 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,220 Turn off. 100 00:02:36,340 --> 00:02:36,780 Okay. 101 00:02:36,860 --> 00:02:37,800 Turn, turn off. 102 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,180 Turn off and turn it on again. 103 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:40,380 Reboot your router. 104 00:02:41,820 --> 00:02:42,800 Reboot your router. 105 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,080 It says hosting is turned. 106 00:02:44,180 --> 00:02:44,440 Okay. 107 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,860 That was the, I had hosting turned on. 108 00:02:47,180 --> 00:02:47,280 Okay. 109 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,660 Uh, I've got a, I've got a, there's 110 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:51,000 a thing in here where you can like, 111 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,860 uh, put in, looks like a, like a 112 00:02:52,860 --> 00:02:54,500 auto dial, like a quick dial. 113 00:02:54,820 --> 00:02:56,080 I'm going to put you in my speed 114 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:56,420 dial. 115 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:59,400 Yeah, baby. 116 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:02,340 I gotta be number one on your roadcaster 117 00:03:02,340 --> 00:03:03,200 speed dial. 118 00:03:03,540 --> 00:03:05,920 I'm going to slide into your DMS. Okay. 119 00:03:06,620 --> 00:03:08,380 Now you're going to try calling me again. 120 00:03:08,660 --> 00:03:10,820 Yeah, this is great. 121 00:03:10,820 --> 00:03:11,360 Yeah. 122 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,520 Well, I mean, Hey, look, we already got 123 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:19,600 to alternate exposure, alternate exposure, alternate exposure, alternate 124 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,060 exposure for video. 125 00:03:21,540 --> 00:03:23,260 This, this is what the board meeting is 126 00:03:23,260 --> 00:03:23,560 for. 127 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,680 This is a horrible product. 128 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,380 This does, this does not, this does nothing. 129 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,500 Well, so what, walk me through it. 130 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,080 What are you seeing? 131 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,400 Well, I put, I put in, I put 132 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,460 you in as a speed dial and then 133 00:03:35,460 --> 00:03:38,340 I tap your name and it says call 134 00:03:38,340 --> 00:03:39,040 or delete. 135 00:03:39,180 --> 00:03:41,040 I hit call and it does nothing. 136 00:03:41,380 --> 00:03:42,980 Well, it just goes right back to this. 137 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:43,620 Go home. 138 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,560 Go back to hosting. 139 00:03:45,060 --> 00:03:45,500 Okay. 140 00:03:45,980 --> 00:03:47,760 I'm not going to turn this too long. 141 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,900 Turn on hosting. 142 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Hosting is currently. 143 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,020 You turn, you turn on hosting. 144 00:03:52,140 --> 00:03:53,240 I'll turn mine off. 145 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:53,800 Okay. 146 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,360 And all, now all it says is you 147 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,560 must be connected to the internet. 148 00:03:57,340 --> 00:03:58,780 This is a terrible product. 149 00:03:58,940 --> 00:04:01,340 That's what I had the previous time I 150 00:04:01,340 --> 00:04:01,960 had that. 151 00:04:02,220 --> 00:04:03,820 You're said you must be connected to the 152 00:04:03,820 --> 00:04:04,060 internet. 153 00:04:04,060 --> 00:04:04,680 Yeah. 154 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,160 But then I upgrade you. 155 00:04:06,260 --> 00:04:07,800 So you don't have, if you go to, 156 00:04:08,100 --> 00:04:09,960 if I turn on hosting, Oh, I got 157 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,420 a new, I got a new code. 158 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Hold on. 159 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:12,700 Oh, you got a new code. 160 00:04:12,740 --> 00:04:14,000 Oh, you had hosting turned off. 161 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:14,860 No, I had it on. 162 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:15,660 Okay. 163 00:04:15,660 --> 00:04:16,420 You got a new code. 164 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:17,540 I got to go change my code. 165 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,360 Change. 166 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:18,740 Okay. 167 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:19,779 Change your code. 168 00:04:20,019 --> 00:04:20,500 All right. 169 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,040 What's under advanced. 170 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Okay. 171 00:04:23,260 --> 00:04:26,620 Uh, why no caps lock? 172 00:04:27,660 --> 00:04:28,980 No, there is no caps lock. 173 00:04:28,980 --> 00:04:30,140 I know it's terrible. 174 00:04:30,780 --> 00:04:34,440 See, which is like the biggest UX problem. 175 00:04:34,540 --> 00:04:38,860 This whole product has keep double tapping it. 176 00:04:38,940 --> 00:04:39,680 Like, come on, man. 177 00:04:39,740 --> 00:04:40,340 Come on, man. 178 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Okay. 179 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:42,440 Okay. 180 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,060 I've saved. 181 00:04:43,180 --> 00:04:45,060 I've saved you call nothing. 182 00:04:45,220 --> 00:04:46,080 It does nothing. 183 00:04:46,220 --> 00:04:48,660 I hit call and it just goes right 184 00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:49,400 back to the screen. 185 00:04:49,460 --> 00:04:50,420 It doesn't do anything. 186 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,240 Well, let's try something else then. 187 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,280 Well, clean feed. 188 00:04:54,140 --> 00:04:55,600 No, no, no. 189 00:04:55,660 --> 00:04:56,540 Let me try this. 190 00:04:56,580 --> 00:04:58,480 Um, call me configuration. 191 00:04:59,260 --> 00:05:00,740 Like, I mean, what is it supposed to 192 00:05:00,740 --> 00:05:01,140 do? 193 00:05:01,660 --> 00:05:05,060 Well, I don't make a call bit punk. 194 00:05:05,140 --> 00:05:05,560 I'm connected. 195 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:06,180 I'm connected. 196 00:05:06,420 --> 00:05:06,920 I promise. 197 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:07,580 I'm connected. 198 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,700 No, I think, I think you need to 199 00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:09,440 do something different. 200 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:10,860 So go back. 201 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,940 I'm about to do something very different. 202 00:05:13,260 --> 00:05:13,500 Go ahead. 203 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Whoa. 204 00:05:14,260 --> 00:05:14,440 Whoa. 205 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,260 I lost Adam. 206 00:05:15,740 --> 00:05:16,380 I lost you. 207 00:05:16,900 --> 00:05:20,820 Oh, this, this is, this is the worst 208 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:21,340 thing ever. 209 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,600 So I was in the call me configuration 210 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,760 and wow. 211 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:26,280 Wow. 212 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:27,400 How does this even happen? 213 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,960 And the other mic doesn't work at all. 214 00:05:32,670 --> 00:05:32,930 Hello. 215 00:05:33,230 --> 00:05:33,490 Hello. 216 00:05:33,710 --> 00:05:34,610 Oh yeah. 217 00:05:34,630 --> 00:05:35,110 Yeah. 218 00:05:35,110 --> 00:05:35,390 Okay. 219 00:05:35,510 --> 00:05:36,030 That's better. 220 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,160 Wow, man. 221 00:05:43,180 --> 00:05:45,180 This is a complete meltdown of the road 222 00:05:45,180 --> 00:05:45,480 here. 223 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:49,220 I've never had this happen road. 224 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,120 Call me. 225 00:05:50,420 --> 00:05:50,920 Let me see. 226 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,160 That's very, very odd. 227 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,840 It's like, I hope I didn't blow something 228 00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:55,160 up. 229 00:05:55,460 --> 00:05:56,160 All right. 230 00:05:56,420 --> 00:05:58,720 Uh, let me try rebooting it again. 231 00:05:59,260 --> 00:06:01,340 Check for leaky, leaky capacitors. 232 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Uh, Lord Jesus have mercy on me. 233 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:05,000 All right. 234 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:06,840 See if I can come back. 235 00:06:07,420 --> 00:06:08,240 Oh man. 236 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,680 It can't be the mic. 237 00:06:10,860 --> 00:06:11,540 No, it's not. 238 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,540 I figured I might as well go all 239 00:06:15,540 --> 00:06:18,420 out and I'll do a firmware upgrade while 240 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:18,920 I'm at it. 241 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Is there one available? 242 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,180 Yes. 243 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,700 Oh yeah. 244 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:23,660 Do that quick. 245 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,300 What could possibly go wrong with that? 246 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,380 Also reboot the index node. 247 00:06:29,580 --> 00:06:29,820 Do that. 248 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,440 And he's had an, okay, we need a 249 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,020 couple hours. 250 00:06:32,140 --> 00:06:33,820 We'll be right back with the show. 251 00:06:34,420 --> 00:06:34,900 Wow. 252 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:36,580 This is, this is unbelievable. 253 00:06:36,820 --> 00:06:37,120 Okay. 254 00:06:37,180 --> 00:06:37,660 Here we go. 255 00:06:38,340 --> 00:06:38,820 Installing. 256 00:06:38,940 --> 00:06:40,340 Installing a horrible product. 257 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,680 Well, when stuff like this happens, it's very 258 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:45,400 disconcerting. 259 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Yeah. 260 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,840 And all we were trying to do just 261 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:50,660 use a new feature. 262 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,700 I'm a, I'm up to date. 263 00:06:52,780 --> 00:06:57,340 I don't have a, uh, uh, Spurlock said 264 00:06:57,340 --> 00:07:00,140 you need to say that's one small step 265 00:07:00,140 --> 00:07:00,700 for man. 266 00:07:04,690 --> 00:07:07,550 It's one small step for man. 267 00:07:07,970 --> 00:07:10,790 One giant leap for podcasting. 268 00:07:18,630 --> 00:07:23,750 Oh, that's crazy. 269 00:07:23,910 --> 00:07:26,350 It's, it's the mic channels that are busted, 270 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:28,490 which is, I mean, this is the main 271 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:29,190 mic channel. 272 00:07:29,870 --> 00:07:31,410 Were you running it too hot? 273 00:07:31,870 --> 00:07:32,270 No. 274 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:34,250 You rent, you overdrived it. 275 00:07:34,290 --> 00:07:34,850 You just blew it. 276 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:36,170 You blew out your road test. 277 00:07:36,270 --> 00:07:37,590 I fried my MOSFET. 278 00:07:38,050 --> 00:07:38,230 Yeah. 279 00:07:38,330 --> 00:07:38,730 MOSFET. 280 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:39,050 Yeah. 281 00:07:39,510 --> 00:07:39,910 Okay. 282 00:07:39,910 --> 00:07:41,850 It's taken a long time to install this 283 00:07:41,850 --> 00:07:42,030 thing. 284 00:07:42,110 --> 00:07:42,210 Yeah. 285 00:07:42,210 --> 00:07:42,310 It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, 286 00:07:42,310 --> 00:07:43,670 it's, it's, it's, that's a bad sign too. 287 00:07:44,130 --> 00:07:45,370 That is never good. 288 00:07:45,710 --> 00:07:47,110 Do I sound normal to you? 289 00:07:47,230 --> 00:07:47,330 Yeah. 290 00:07:47,390 --> 00:07:47,490 Yeah. 291 00:07:47,530 --> 00:07:48,270 You sound fine. 292 00:07:48,330 --> 00:07:49,450 I mean the, huh? 293 00:07:49,890 --> 00:07:50,950 Oh, well now nothing. 294 00:07:51,150 --> 00:07:52,030 Now nothing works. 295 00:07:52,630 --> 00:07:54,190 We're in permanent state. 296 00:07:54,310 --> 00:07:57,710 My firmware version is 1.6.6. Oh, 297 00:07:58,150 --> 00:08:00,670 I really think that this should be the 298 00:08:00,670 --> 00:08:00,910 show. 299 00:08:01,030 --> 00:08:02,250 I'm just this, I'm going to put this 300 00:08:02,250 --> 00:08:02,930 whole bit out. 301 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:05,270 I mean, I'm, I'm streaming it. 302 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:09,550 So like on HLS, hold on a second. 303 00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:10,310 Now let me see. 304 00:08:10,410 --> 00:08:11,930 Maybe that was, maybe that was where the 305 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:12,710 problem was. 306 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:15,070 Um, now how do I get back to 307 00:08:15,070 --> 00:08:15,590 call me? 308 00:08:16,090 --> 00:08:17,510 Are we still calling each other? 309 00:08:18,570 --> 00:08:20,150 I'm in it for the long haul now, 310 00:08:20,250 --> 00:08:20,510 Dave. 311 00:08:20,670 --> 00:08:21,010 Okay. 312 00:08:21,050 --> 00:08:21,370 All right. 313 00:08:21,410 --> 00:08:21,690 All right. 314 00:08:21,690 --> 00:08:22,090 We'll do it. 315 00:08:22,090 --> 00:08:22,250 Okay. 316 00:08:22,330 --> 00:08:22,710 Let me see. 317 00:08:22,810 --> 00:08:23,490 So faders. 318 00:08:23,970 --> 00:08:25,230 Oh, I can't even adjust fate. 319 00:08:25,310 --> 00:08:26,530 Oh, that's because, okay. 320 00:08:26,950 --> 00:08:28,370 I've still got you in my, in my 321 00:08:28,370 --> 00:08:28,950 speed dial. 322 00:08:29,230 --> 00:08:29,350 Yeah. 323 00:08:29,490 --> 00:08:34,990 So faders, uh, number two, call me check 324 00:08:34,990 --> 00:08:35,350 Mark. 325 00:08:35,630 --> 00:08:36,169 Okay. 326 00:08:36,590 --> 00:08:37,650 So that's up. 327 00:08:37,990 --> 00:08:41,230 That's assuming you're through this whole firmware debacle 328 00:08:41,230 --> 00:08:42,809 that your code thing didn't change. 329 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:43,530 Yeah. 330 00:08:43,530 --> 00:08:43,810 Right. 331 00:08:44,390 --> 00:08:45,470 Uh, hosting. 332 00:08:46,030 --> 00:08:47,250 I am hosting. 333 00:08:47,790 --> 00:08:49,070 You want to try it one more time? 334 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:50,030 Oh yeah. 335 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:51,790 Did you, can you see what your code 336 00:08:51,790 --> 00:08:51,990 is? 337 00:08:52,030 --> 00:08:52,270 Yes. 338 00:08:52,930 --> 00:08:53,570 Is it the same? 339 00:08:54,070 --> 00:08:54,470 No. 340 00:08:55,430 --> 00:08:55,750 Okay. 341 00:08:55,770 --> 00:08:56,410 Of course not. 342 00:08:57,270 --> 00:08:58,090 No, man. 343 00:08:58,130 --> 00:08:58,970 It's encrypted. 344 00:08:59,810 --> 00:09:01,130 It's all encrypted stuff. 345 00:09:01,930 --> 00:09:02,670 Eight digit encrypted. 346 00:09:03,230 --> 00:09:03,570 Okay. 347 00:09:03,650 --> 00:09:06,170 You got my, uh, my who, how there 348 00:09:06,170 --> 00:09:10,790 me, uh, I'm signaling you on the, that 349 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:12,170 was hella crazy, man. 350 00:09:12,550 --> 00:09:14,230 That that's ridiculous. 351 00:09:14,510 --> 00:09:14,990 Let's see. 352 00:09:15,350 --> 00:09:16,890 I'm glad that didn't happen on an NA 353 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:17,370 show day. 354 00:09:17,850 --> 00:09:21,970 Well, especially since we had 1800 yesterday, the 355 00:09:21,970 --> 00:09:23,350 big celebration episode. 356 00:09:23,950 --> 00:09:25,590 Hey, it's not good. 357 00:09:25,610 --> 00:09:27,030 If I just say it out loud as 358 00:09:27,030 --> 00:09:29,270 I type it, that's not going to, that's 359 00:09:29,270 --> 00:09:30,250 going to defeat the purpose. 360 00:09:30,490 --> 00:09:32,590 Well, it's not like anyone's going to be 361 00:09:32,590 --> 00:09:33,750 able to call me anyway. 362 00:09:34,990 --> 00:09:37,070 Yeah, true. 363 00:09:37,630 --> 00:09:38,110 Okay. 364 00:09:38,670 --> 00:09:40,890 Call, call nothing. 365 00:09:41,330 --> 00:09:41,950 All right. 366 00:09:41,990 --> 00:09:44,010 Now, if you, now, why don't you turn 367 00:09:44,010 --> 00:09:45,810 on hosting and I'll try calling you. 368 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:47,810 This is where we screwed up last time. 369 00:09:48,290 --> 00:09:49,130 Make a call. 370 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:51,090 Roadcaster code. 371 00:09:51,790 --> 00:09:51,990 Okay. 372 00:09:52,210 --> 00:09:53,970 It says I have hosting already turned on. 373 00:09:54,350 --> 00:09:55,990 Oh, well you can't call me if you 374 00:09:55,990 --> 00:09:57,010 turn, you got, okay. 375 00:09:57,130 --> 00:09:58,370 Turn your hosting off. 376 00:09:58,850 --> 00:10:01,730 The, the, the, the interface for this is 377 00:10:01,730 --> 00:10:02,970 a horrible, is horrible. 378 00:10:03,170 --> 00:10:03,270 Okay. 379 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:04,910 So you go to, you go to call 380 00:10:04,910 --> 00:10:07,150 me and you got, you see advanced hosting 381 00:10:07,150 --> 00:10:08,030 and upgrade. 382 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:08,910 Okay. 383 00:10:08,990 --> 00:10:11,410 I see I'm on call me and it 384 00:10:11,410 --> 00:10:12,690 says enable hosting. 385 00:10:13,050 --> 00:10:14,650 And then at the bottom is call me 386 00:10:14,650 --> 00:10:15,370 configuration. 387 00:10:16,210 --> 00:10:16,310 Okay. 388 00:10:16,470 --> 00:10:17,990 So enable hosting. 389 00:10:18,310 --> 00:10:18,710 Okay. 390 00:10:18,830 --> 00:10:20,250 And it says you must be connected to 391 00:10:20,250 --> 00:10:20,650 the internet. 392 00:10:25,530 --> 00:10:27,110 I'm on the internet. 393 00:10:28,130 --> 00:10:30,590 I downloaded your firmware yesterday. 394 00:10:30,870 --> 00:10:32,250 I have an idea. 395 00:10:32,330 --> 00:10:32,890 Okay. 396 00:10:33,830 --> 00:10:37,310 Podcasting 2.0 for September 19th, 2025 episode 397 00:10:37,310 --> 00:10:40,190 235 roadcaster disaster. 398 00:10:41,690 --> 00:10:42,730 Hello everybody. 399 00:10:43,270 --> 00:10:44,130 It's not working. 400 00:10:44,270 --> 00:10:46,170 It's on the fridge, but the Eagle has 401 00:10:46,170 --> 00:10:46,530 landed. 402 00:10:46,730 --> 00:10:50,170 Welcome to podcasting 2.0. We are silo 403 00:10:50,170 --> 00:10:50,590 casting. 404 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:53,510 If everything's going according to plan, of course, 405 00:10:53,590 --> 00:10:55,150 this is the board meeting where we discuss 406 00:10:55,150 --> 00:10:58,010 all things podcasting and get into the weeds. 407 00:10:58,230 --> 00:11:00,410 It's the only boardroom that Brendan Carr may 408 00:11:00,410 --> 00:11:01,050 not enter. 409 00:11:01,510 --> 00:11:02,910 I'm Adam Curry here in the heart of 410 00:11:02,910 --> 00:11:04,710 the Texas Hill country and in Alabama, the 411 00:11:04,710 --> 00:11:07,130 man who spent two weeks fighting CSS and 412 00:11:07,130 --> 00:11:09,890 JavaScript and one say hello to my friend 413 00:11:09,890 --> 00:11:11,270 on the other end, the one, the only 414 00:11:11,270 --> 00:11:13,810 Mr. Dave Jones. 415 00:11:15,870 --> 00:11:19,070 If you use a roadcaster, you, you need 416 00:11:19,070 --> 00:11:21,070 to have, you need to have a couple 417 00:11:21,070 --> 00:11:21,490 of things. 418 00:11:21,690 --> 00:11:21,910 Yes. 419 00:11:21,970 --> 00:11:23,450 A technician next to you. 420 00:11:23,510 --> 00:11:26,650 First of all, a technician from Australia in 421 00:11:26,650 --> 00:11:27,810 the seat next to you. 422 00:11:28,070 --> 00:11:29,750 All right, you're pressing the wrong button. 423 00:11:31,530 --> 00:11:33,370 Check your profile mate. 424 00:11:33,790 --> 00:11:36,310 And then you need to also have a 425 00:11:36,310 --> 00:11:38,750 lot of a big, a humongous Costco sized 426 00:11:38,750 --> 00:11:39,930 bottle of antacid. 427 00:11:40,190 --> 00:11:41,510 Oh my Lord. 428 00:11:42,230 --> 00:11:44,850 The stress level of trying to use this 429 00:11:44,850 --> 00:11:47,170 product sometimes is off the charts. 430 00:11:47,370 --> 00:11:48,510 So, so what should we do? 431 00:11:48,610 --> 00:11:51,070 Shall I put the recording that I had 432 00:11:51,070 --> 00:11:53,150 at the end of the show so people 433 00:11:53,150 --> 00:11:55,350 can listen to it there and we'll just 434 00:11:55,350 --> 00:11:56,910 start the board meeting as usual? 435 00:11:57,250 --> 00:11:57,630 Yeah. 436 00:11:58,530 --> 00:12:00,410 You could just, you could because some of 437 00:12:00,410 --> 00:12:02,250 the, some of the effects that, that we 438 00:12:02,250 --> 00:12:05,910 acquired while trying to get this done were 439 00:12:05,910 --> 00:12:06,850 quite amazing. 440 00:12:07,470 --> 00:12:09,170 I think it should just be, I think 441 00:12:09,170 --> 00:12:10,470 you should just leave it as is. 442 00:12:10,590 --> 00:12:12,870 Just let the whole front, just, just roll 443 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:13,270 with it. 444 00:12:13,410 --> 00:12:14,690 You were recording the whole time. 445 00:12:14,770 --> 00:12:15,370 Just roll with it. 446 00:12:15,370 --> 00:12:17,250 Well, you know, whenever I post as is. 447 00:12:17,430 --> 00:12:17,870 Okay. 448 00:12:18,090 --> 00:12:18,570 You got it. 449 00:12:18,570 --> 00:12:20,290 Whenever I had to reboot. 450 00:12:21,130 --> 00:12:21,570 Wow. 451 00:12:21,670 --> 00:12:22,130 Hold a second. 452 00:12:22,250 --> 00:12:23,930 Now things have changed here on your end. 453 00:12:24,030 --> 00:12:25,810 I'm using the, I see why. 454 00:12:26,050 --> 00:12:27,910 I'm using the no agenda profile. 455 00:12:28,050 --> 00:12:28,650 That's why. 456 00:12:30,030 --> 00:12:32,650 Do I sound, that sounds, you sound like, 457 00:12:32,730 --> 00:12:34,190 you sound like you just got older. 458 00:12:34,270 --> 00:12:36,450 You sound like you're in your seventies all 459 00:12:36,450 --> 00:12:36,870 of a sudden. 460 00:12:41,030 --> 00:12:41,470 Yeah. 461 00:12:43,050 --> 00:12:47,150 So when, of course, whenever, whenever I had 462 00:12:47,150 --> 00:12:50,030 to reboot, which I did once and then 463 00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:52,070 I upgraded and then it reboot and then 464 00:12:52,070 --> 00:12:53,370 I entered a new profile. 465 00:12:53,750 --> 00:12:55,730 But when the, when the machine reboots, then 466 00:12:55,730 --> 00:12:57,970 of course Hindenburg, which I used to record, 467 00:12:58,070 --> 00:13:00,110 uh, that immediately goes, Nope. 468 00:13:01,710 --> 00:13:02,110 Nope. 469 00:13:02,630 --> 00:13:03,230 You're done. 470 00:13:03,410 --> 00:13:03,630 Yeah. 471 00:13:03,690 --> 00:13:05,150 Let me just make sure I actually am 472 00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:06,610 using the right input here. 473 00:13:06,610 --> 00:13:08,690 Cause that could be disastrous as well. 474 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:11,830 Oh goodness. 475 00:13:11,990 --> 00:13:12,730 Hold on a second. 476 00:13:13,090 --> 00:13:13,790 Oh no. 477 00:13:13,890 --> 00:13:14,770 Hold on a sec. 478 00:13:15,410 --> 00:13:16,190 Oh no. 479 00:13:16,510 --> 00:13:16,890 Hold on. 480 00:13:17,030 --> 00:13:18,070 Let me just check something. 481 00:13:18,070 --> 00:13:18,550 Hold on. 482 00:13:18,590 --> 00:13:18,890 Hold on. 483 00:13:18,930 --> 00:13:19,770 This is going to be funny. 484 00:13:19,890 --> 00:13:20,250 Hold on. 485 00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:21,470 Okay. 486 00:13:21,510 --> 00:13:21,770 Awesome. 487 00:13:21,970 --> 00:13:24,590 So then, although I don't, I don't think 488 00:13:24,590 --> 00:13:26,510 I have the, didn't we have to put 489 00:13:26,510 --> 00:13:27,610 in video somewhere? 490 00:13:28,170 --> 00:13:28,810 Oh wait. 491 00:13:28,910 --> 00:13:29,930 Didn't we, we did that. 492 00:13:30,070 --> 00:13:31,830 Um, we did that manually. 493 00:13:31,950 --> 00:13:32,470 Didn't we? 494 00:13:33,950 --> 00:13:36,270 Uh, that was in the, that was in 495 00:13:36,270 --> 00:13:38,190 the title attribute. 496 00:13:38,190 --> 00:13:38,790 I think. 497 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:39,650 Let me see. 498 00:13:39,710 --> 00:13:39,930 Yes. 499 00:13:39,990 --> 00:13:40,890 Title equals video. 500 00:13:40,950 --> 00:13:41,710 It's still in there. 501 00:13:42,490 --> 00:13:43,710 Steven Bell, man. 502 00:13:43,710 --> 00:13:45,130 You've made some amazing stuff. 503 00:13:45,390 --> 00:13:46,490 Let me go check. 504 00:13:46,490 --> 00:13:49,070 Uh, true fans and make sure. 505 00:13:49,830 --> 00:13:52,310 Uh, cause, uh, I think I saw a 506 00:13:52,310 --> 00:13:54,250 update come through for fountain this week, so 507 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:57,790 I think he may have added live, live 508 00:13:57,790 --> 00:13:59,230 video support. 509 00:13:59,710 --> 00:14:03,070 Oh, are we checking that? 510 00:14:03,530 --> 00:14:05,690 This is a, this is probably one of 511 00:14:05,690 --> 00:14:08,770 the most discombobulated podcasts I've done in my 512 00:14:08,770 --> 00:14:12,150 entire pod rear, my pod rear. 513 00:14:13,270 --> 00:14:15,430 I bet, I bet there were some early 514 00:14:15,430 --> 00:14:17,830 daily source codes that, uh, that rivaled it. 515 00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:19,290 Uh, well that's true. 516 00:14:19,530 --> 00:14:21,810 There were actually some shows that I did 517 00:14:21,810 --> 00:14:25,610 with, um, wow, I got a source error 518 00:14:25,610 --> 00:14:26,110 code. 519 00:14:26,250 --> 00:14:26,670 All right. 520 00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:27,770 Okay. 521 00:14:27,810 --> 00:14:28,370 Here we go. 522 00:14:28,910 --> 00:14:31,450 Uh, there were a couple of, um, what 523 00:14:31,450 --> 00:14:31,830 was his code? 524 00:14:32,030 --> 00:14:35,370 Dave Weiner and I, we did a, we 525 00:14:35,370 --> 00:14:39,570 did a podcast called trade secrets and okay, 526 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:40,570 here we are live. 527 00:14:40,750 --> 00:14:41,230 All right. 528 00:14:41,730 --> 00:14:41,930 Yep. 529 00:14:41,950 --> 00:14:42,130 Yep. 530 00:14:42,130 --> 00:14:43,730 I'm seeing this on, I'm seeing myself on 531 00:14:43,730 --> 00:14:44,910 true fans, so let me check. 532 00:14:45,830 --> 00:14:46,150 Okay. 533 00:14:46,250 --> 00:14:49,430 So, um, now where do I switch a 534 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:50,410 month on true fans? 535 00:14:50,730 --> 00:14:52,050 No, I'm on, I'm on fountain. 536 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:52,290 Yeah. 537 00:14:52,330 --> 00:14:52,990 Sing a fountain. 538 00:14:53,090 --> 00:14:53,510 I'll do it. 539 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:56,110 Uh, that's a good question. 540 00:14:56,270 --> 00:14:57,070 Let's switch the video. 541 00:14:57,190 --> 00:14:57,910 Oh, I just saw it. 542 00:14:57,950 --> 00:14:58,990 It said switch the video. 543 00:14:59,410 --> 00:14:59,770 All right. 544 00:14:59,770 --> 00:15:00,230 Where is it? 545 00:15:00,270 --> 00:15:01,090 I'm all excited. 546 00:15:01,230 --> 00:15:01,890 Hold on a second. 547 00:15:02,770 --> 00:15:03,170 Okay. 548 00:15:03,450 --> 00:15:04,110 I'm all jitty. 549 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:05,110 Switch to video. 550 00:15:05,510 --> 00:15:07,170 Oh, I switched the video and it doesn't 551 00:15:07,170 --> 00:15:07,850 switch. 552 00:15:08,750 --> 00:15:09,530 Switch to video. 553 00:15:09,790 --> 00:15:10,650 I saw switch to video. 554 00:15:10,790 --> 00:15:11,810 It was up for a second there. 555 00:15:12,070 --> 00:15:13,870 You got to tap the, uh, Oh, I 556 00:15:13,870 --> 00:15:14,250 see it. 557 00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:15,030 I see it. 558 00:15:15,890 --> 00:15:17,410 It's not working for me. 559 00:15:17,890 --> 00:15:18,290 Yes. 560 00:15:18,650 --> 00:15:18,850 Not. 561 00:15:18,950 --> 00:15:19,670 Oh, you're on Android. 562 00:15:19,750 --> 00:15:20,370 I'm on iOS. 563 00:15:20,590 --> 00:15:22,250 Oh, look at that. 564 00:15:22,350 --> 00:15:22,970 It's working. 565 00:15:23,890 --> 00:15:25,590 I get to switch the video. 566 00:15:25,790 --> 00:15:27,130 Oh, Oh, hold on. 567 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:27,690 Hold on. 568 00:15:27,710 --> 00:15:28,670 Did you get it? 569 00:15:29,070 --> 00:15:29,890 Hold on. 570 00:15:30,170 --> 00:15:31,410 I got a black screen. 571 00:15:32,190 --> 00:15:32,670 Okay. 572 00:15:32,730 --> 00:15:33,590 That's step one. 573 00:15:33,690 --> 00:15:35,450 The step one is black screen is good. 574 00:15:35,690 --> 00:15:36,750 Got a black screen. 575 00:15:36,830 --> 00:15:37,710 This is amazing. 576 00:15:37,790 --> 00:15:38,010 Okay. 577 00:15:38,070 --> 00:15:39,030 It's not working. 578 00:15:39,350 --> 00:15:40,850 Uh, let me see if I got audio 579 00:15:40,850 --> 00:15:41,450 from it. 580 00:15:42,410 --> 00:15:44,690 Yeah, I got audio, but I don't have 581 00:15:44,690 --> 00:15:45,230 video. 582 00:15:45,870 --> 00:15:46,930 No man. 583 00:15:47,270 --> 00:15:47,770 Let me see. 584 00:15:47,970 --> 00:15:48,910 That's a bummer. 585 00:15:49,530 --> 00:15:50,310 That is a bummer. 586 00:15:51,230 --> 00:15:53,270 It's working flawlessly on mine. 587 00:15:53,410 --> 00:15:53,890 Hmm. 588 00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:56,870 That's because all those guys only test on 589 00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:57,390 the iPhone. 590 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:58,430 It's like, Oh, it works great. 591 00:15:58,530 --> 00:15:58,730 Fine. 592 00:15:58,790 --> 00:16:01,310 It's just, just publish, just put it in 593 00:16:01,310 --> 00:16:03,990 Swift and publish it to the play store. 594 00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:04,930 Swift. 595 00:16:05,230 --> 00:16:06,550 Let me, let me pause. 596 00:16:06,650 --> 00:16:07,650 Let me see if that helps. 597 00:16:08,370 --> 00:16:09,690 Maybe I can cast it. 598 00:16:09,730 --> 00:16:11,790 Let me cast it to my device and 599 00:16:11,790 --> 00:16:13,110 see if I can cast it up to 600 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:13,730 the quad screen. 601 00:16:13,810 --> 00:16:14,090 Yeah. 602 00:16:15,210 --> 00:16:15,610 Nice. 603 00:16:15,770 --> 00:16:16,310 Let's see. 604 00:16:16,930 --> 00:16:18,070 It's looking for stuff. 605 00:16:18,950 --> 00:16:22,670 Looking for, looking, scanning, scanning. 606 00:16:22,830 --> 00:16:26,010 So so what we're doing here is basically, 607 00:16:26,290 --> 00:16:30,110 I think it's a first for podcasting where 608 00:16:30,110 --> 00:16:32,890 we're doing a live audio and video podcast 609 00:16:32,890 --> 00:16:34,490 with alternate enclosure. 610 00:16:35,190 --> 00:16:35,710 Yes. 611 00:16:36,190 --> 00:16:37,850 It still says looking for a device. 612 00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:39,190 Do I have to do something on my, 613 00:16:39,450 --> 00:16:40,290 on my television? 614 00:16:40,730 --> 00:16:43,770 To be clear, we, the, you know, peer, 615 00:16:43,930 --> 00:16:47,250 peer tube supported this and, and when it 616 00:16:47,250 --> 00:16:50,010 was doable, but the, the apps did not 617 00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:52,310 support it until, until later. 618 00:16:52,830 --> 00:16:55,750 And so then I'm not sure that anybody 619 00:16:55,750 --> 00:17:00,730 has used I'm not sure it's been revisited 620 00:17:00,730 --> 00:17:02,790 since then, because it, we, I did a 621 00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:04,130 little bit of this on in a tube 622 00:17:04,130 --> 00:17:07,430 when, when no agenda tube was up, but 623 00:17:07,430 --> 00:17:09,750 then, but see, I, you have to, you 624 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:10,869 know, you got to go that extra step 625 00:17:10,869 --> 00:17:12,089 and stick it in a pod in the, 626 00:17:12,170 --> 00:17:13,710 in the index or stick it in a 627 00:17:13,710 --> 00:17:17,829 directory as a podcast with the podcasting 2 628 00:17:17,829 --> 00:17:18,890 .0 support in it. 629 00:17:19,569 --> 00:17:21,770 Then you have to, then somebody needs to 630 00:17:21,770 --> 00:17:22,430 watch it. 631 00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:23,770 And you'd be like, there's a lot of 632 00:17:23,770 --> 00:17:24,710 things that need to happen. 633 00:17:24,910 --> 00:17:26,890 And I'm just not sure that that has 634 00:17:26,890 --> 00:17:31,790 been ever fully tested on a live episode, 635 00:17:31,790 --> 00:17:33,470 you know, in the app. 636 00:17:33,570 --> 00:17:36,770 So true fans, true fans put in support 637 00:17:36,770 --> 00:17:37,290 later. 638 00:17:38,570 --> 00:17:41,470 So the, the con the content was there 639 00:17:41,470 --> 00:17:42,310 and ready to go. 640 00:17:42,450 --> 00:17:43,830 I just don't think the apps hit it 641 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:44,090 yet. 642 00:17:44,850 --> 00:17:45,850 Let me see. 643 00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:48,530 Do I need to, uh, if I want 644 00:17:48,530 --> 00:17:49,930 to cast to my device? 645 00:17:50,010 --> 00:17:50,630 Oh, source. 646 00:17:50,670 --> 00:17:51,810 How about that source? 647 00:17:52,210 --> 00:17:54,450 I thought it usually just pops up by 648 00:17:54,450 --> 00:17:54,890 itself. 649 00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:56,650 Source. 650 00:17:58,010 --> 00:18:01,450 Like the Chrome, the Chromecast type thing. 651 00:18:01,530 --> 00:18:01,790 Yeah. 652 00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:02,790 Source. 653 00:18:04,490 --> 00:18:07,410 Uh, doesn't look like it. 654 00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:09,230 I got a lot of IP address here. 655 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:13,950 Oh, okay. 656 00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:15,630 It doesn't look like that's going to happen. 657 00:18:18,330 --> 00:18:19,130 I wonder. 658 00:18:19,370 --> 00:18:21,090 Oh, I just got, Oh, Oh, Oh, look 659 00:18:21,090 --> 00:18:21,310 at you. 660 00:18:21,410 --> 00:18:22,010 True fans. 661 00:18:22,770 --> 00:18:25,510 Posting to my timeline on a podcast in 662 00:18:25,510 --> 00:18:27,170 real time. 663 00:18:27,670 --> 00:18:30,310 This is, this is pretty cool, man. 664 00:18:30,550 --> 00:18:32,810 It says Dave Jones played an episode of 665 00:18:32,810 --> 00:18:35,770 podcasting to listen for nine seconds, completed 1%. 666 00:18:35,770 --> 00:18:36,170 Wow. 667 00:18:37,630 --> 00:18:38,490 Let me see. 668 00:18:38,610 --> 00:18:42,310 How about if I'm on test, I'm on 669 00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:43,130 the test flight. 670 00:18:43,210 --> 00:18:44,110 I wonder if that, yeah. 671 00:18:44,570 --> 00:18:45,510 Oh, okay. 672 00:18:45,610 --> 00:18:46,050 Hold on. 673 00:18:46,130 --> 00:18:47,670 But you have it in yours though. 674 00:18:49,090 --> 00:18:50,310 I'm also a tester. 675 00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:51,850 Let me, let me see if there's an 676 00:18:51,850 --> 00:18:52,450 update. 677 00:18:53,110 --> 00:18:54,010 No, no. 678 00:18:54,110 --> 00:18:55,610 What, what version is this? 679 00:18:57,030 --> 00:18:59,050 Uh, you're an internal tester. 680 00:18:59,170 --> 00:19:02,230 This app may be unsecure or unstable. 681 00:19:02,690 --> 00:19:03,550 Five stars. 682 00:19:03,950 --> 00:19:04,050 Okay. 683 00:19:04,970 --> 00:19:07,630 Well, I mean the roadcasters unsecure and unstable. 684 00:19:11,210 --> 00:19:12,230 Let me see. 685 00:19:12,350 --> 00:19:13,490 Come on, come on. 686 00:19:13,510 --> 00:19:14,190 Get back here. 687 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:16,770 Well, let me just try it again. 688 00:19:16,910 --> 00:19:17,350 Open. 689 00:19:19,300 --> 00:19:20,040 All right. 690 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,200 Where's my podcasting 2.0. All right. 691 00:19:24,380 --> 00:19:25,780 I'll just try it one more time. 692 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,780 And otherwise, Oh, I'm getting a screenshot screenshots. 693 00:19:30,940 --> 00:19:31,840 Ah, missed it. 694 00:19:32,340 --> 00:19:32,980 Oh, what? 695 00:19:33,340 --> 00:19:34,780 I got, I got some failed. 696 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,180 I got, Oh, you got an error message. 697 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:37,540 Yeah. 698 00:19:37,580 --> 00:19:39,200 I got no activity. 699 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,280 How about now? 700 00:19:40,380 --> 00:19:43,800 Oh, where's live play play. 701 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:45,120 Okay. 702 00:19:45,380 --> 00:19:46,960 Playing switch to video. 703 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,940 Come on, come on, baby. 704 00:19:49,020 --> 00:19:49,280 Go. 705 00:19:49,580 --> 00:19:49,880 Come on. 706 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:50,500 Let's do it. 707 00:19:50,980 --> 00:19:52,380 It takes a bit. 708 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,540 It doesn't want to switch to video right 709 00:19:54,540 --> 00:19:56,900 away, which is odd. 710 00:19:59,340 --> 00:20:01,380 I had that the last time too. 711 00:20:02,620 --> 00:20:03,640 Mine took it. 712 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,580 Mine took like two or three seconds, but 713 00:20:07,580 --> 00:20:08,420 then it popped up. 714 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,200 Here we go. 715 00:20:10,060 --> 00:20:10,940 Is it working? 716 00:20:11,180 --> 00:20:11,820 Yeah, baby. 717 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,320 Oh, nice. 718 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:14,040 Nice. 719 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:14,460 Nice. 720 00:20:15,660 --> 00:20:17,440 What's the, is, can you tell what the 721 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,160 delay is? 722 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:19,360 Let's see. 723 00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:21,560 Popped up. 724 00:20:24,620 --> 00:20:25,780 So about what? 725 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:26,940 Six or seven seconds. 726 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:27,340 Yeah. 727 00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:30,860 That's fantastic. 728 00:20:31,060 --> 00:20:31,520 All right. 729 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,940 Well, that is very cool. 730 00:20:34,020 --> 00:20:34,900 Very cool. 731 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:36,600 Hey, that works, man. 732 00:20:36,740 --> 00:20:39,440 We need to have a, we need to 733 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:45,900 celebrate a horrible failure and a win. 734 00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:47,240 That is amazing. 735 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,780 Let me, that's a head snapper. 736 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:50,360 Let me see you. 737 00:20:50,460 --> 00:20:57,440 Is your, uh, yeah, your audio and video 738 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,240 is pretty sync. 739 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,340 That works. 740 00:20:59,420 --> 00:20:59,620 Okay. 741 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:00,100 Yeah. 742 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:00,500 Okay. 743 00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:02,020 Amazing. 744 00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:03,840 Well, that's a show everybody. 745 00:21:06,660 --> 00:21:08,980 Half the show was trying to get the 746 00:21:08,980 --> 00:21:10,060 failed roadcaster. 747 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,480 Call me function to work. 748 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,760 Well, just goes to show what a couple 749 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,940 of nut jobs in the UK can do 750 00:21:17,940 --> 00:21:21,380 versus an entire corporation organization in Australia. 751 00:21:21,620 --> 00:21:22,980 Nothing against Australia. 752 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,220 I'm just saying. 753 00:21:24,220 --> 00:21:29,600 Yeah, there's, there's this like this, um, I 754 00:21:31,740 --> 00:21:32,160 don't know. 755 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,040 There's like, there's like this penumbra around clean 756 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,540 around just web audio, like real time web 757 00:21:40,540 --> 00:21:44,700 audio and how you, it's just not, it's 758 00:21:44,700 --> 00:21:47,540 just not clear how to make this stuff 759 00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:47,980 work. 760 00:21:48,180 --> 00:21:50,600 There's all these little idiosyncrasies that you have 761 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,600 to get right. 762 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,040 And it really requires like some, some voodoo 763 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,380 and some experience to get, to get to 764 00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:00,100 the bottom of it. 765 00:22:00,140 --> 00:22:02,560 Like you, the problem with the call me 766 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,020 thing is we never even got to test 767 00:22:04,020 --> 00:22:05,280 it because it just doesn't work. 768 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:07,580 Well, so I tested it with a, with 769 00:22:07,580 --> 00:22:09,720 a web browser because you can give someone 770 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,040 a QR code and then, or a code, 771 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:12,560 a link. 772 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,440 And, and that worked. 773 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,200 It worked completely perfectly. 774 00:22:18,900 --> 00:22:20,520 I was using the web browser on my 775 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,940 phone and then I hung up and then 776 00:22:22,940 --> 00:22:23,900 it never worked again. 777 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,100 I, I would call and it would say 778 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:28,320 connected, but when nothing would come into my 779 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,660 end, which kind of makes me think that, 780 00:22:31,660 --> 00:22:34,000 you know, maybe there was something going on 781 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,160 with my RODECaster in general. 782 00:22:35,260 --> 00:22:36,320 I don't think we should try it again 783 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:36,820 right now. 784 00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:37,940 No. 785 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,480 Although I'll be a bad idea. 786 00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:41,360 So here's a question I have for you. 787 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:42,280 Sure. 788 00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:45,060 I've been doing a lot of coding. 789 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:46,260 Yes. 790 00:22:46,260 --> 00:22:46,940 Vibe coding. 791 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,080 And, you know, Tina's visiting her, her family 792 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,740 in Indiana. 793 00:22:52,940 --> 00:22:55,100 So it's just me and the dog. 794 00:22:56,140 --> 00:22:59,060 And that's, that's, that is, that's code fuel 795 00:22:59,060 --> 00:22:59,860 is what that is. 796 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:01,960 So my question, yes. 797 00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:04,620 So, you know, like one 30, I'm like, 798 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,280 Oh man, but it's always one more build, 799 00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:11,300 just, just one more, one more build. 800 00:23:11,580 --> 00:23:15,820 And then, so what do you do? 801 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,420 What do you use as the mechanism to 802 00:23:19,420 --> 00:23:19,940 stop? 803 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,940 Because it feels so, you know, it's like, 804 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,020 I'll do one more build. 805 00:23:23,180 --> 00:23:25,700 And then if, if the build fails, I'm 806 00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:26,300 going to keep going. 807 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,280 And if, if I can't get it done, 808 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,180 I'll revert back to the most recent one. 809 00:23:30,180 --> 00:23:31,780 And then I can go to bed, but 810 00:23:31,780 --> 00:23:34,360 then I'm really unhappy because I'm thinking, well, 811 00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:35,900 maybe it was this, maybe it was that 812 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:39,460 it's all these different possibilities that could have 813 00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:40,320 made it go wrong. 814 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:44,060 So at what point do you just say, 815 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,260 okay, I have to stop. 816 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,240 And how do you do it? 817 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,340 See, this is easy. 818 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,540 This is easy for me and hard for 819 00:23:51,540 --> 00:23:58,060 you because for me, I have natural break 820 00:23:58,060 --> 00:24:00,240 points built into my day where I have 821 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,820 to, my typical pattern is I get up, 822 00:24:02,820 --> 00:24:04,280 I get up in the morning, I get 823 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,020 a cup of coffee, immediately get a cup 824 00:24:06,020 --> 00:24:09,860 of coffee and start coding on Godcaster. 825 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,660 So I have to be, but I have 826 00:24:12,660 --> 00:24:14,100 to be at work and that's usually around 827 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:15,120 five 30 or six. 828 00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:16,680 And so I usually have about an hour 829 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,640 and a half before I have to leave 830 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,160 for work. 831 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:22,040 So that hour and a half, I naturally 832 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,320 just have to go, I have to go 833 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:23,720 to work. 834 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,080 So I just have to shut it down. 835 00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:26,560 No matter what state it's in, I have 836 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,080 to stop. 837 00:24:27,420 --> 00:24:28,720 And then I come, and then I come 838 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,880 home and wait, stop, stop right there. 839 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:33,920 So you have no other choice. 840 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,880 You have to go to work, but you 841 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,440 know that if you hit build, it'll probably 842 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,560 be done one minute before you need to 843 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:40,880 go. 844 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,780 Do you do that? 845 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,860 I can't do that because there's been so 846 00:24:48,860 --> 00:24:51,000 many times where I've played it too close 847 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,540 to the, to the, to the wire and 848 00:24:53,540 --> 00:24:54,520 I've been late. 849 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:55,140 Yeah. 850 00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:56,580 This is where, yeah. 851 00:24:57,140 --> 00:24:57,360 Yeah. 852 00:24:57,460 --> 00:25:00,620 You, you, you have to like, you have 853 00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:03,040 to begin to like, look at your, at 854 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,520 your time and say, uh, and say, do 855 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,180 I want to push it up to one 856 00:25:08,180 --> 00:25:09,480 minute before I need to leave? 857 00:25:09,620 --> 00:25:11,640 No, it's 15 minutes before I need to 858 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,300 leave right now. 859 00:25:13,700 --> 00:25:15,680 Experience tells me that this is not going 860 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,300 to be fixed. 861 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,160 The closer you get to a deadline, the 862 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,660 more like, the more difficult your mind finds 863 00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:26,080 it to actually focus on the thing in 864 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,420 hand. 865 00:25:27,460 --> 00:25:33,120 I just think that the, like, this still 866 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:33,900 happens to me now. 867 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,780 Now, like if, if Melissa and the kids 868 00:25:35,780 --> 00:25:37,460 go out of town or something, uh, or 869 00:25:37,460 --> 00:25:38,720 Melissa and my daughter go out of town, 870 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,100 Alex is right. 871 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,520 One more build in before, you know, it 872 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,760 is 6 a.m. So my house, my 873 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,500 house right now, the dishwasher didn't run. 874 00:25:50,180 --> 00:25:52,360 The bed is, is still, you know, not 875 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:52,880 made up. 876 00:25:52,980 --> 00:25:55,040 The, the blinds in the bedroom are down. 877 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,180 I haven't showered in two days. 878 00:25:57,260 --> 00:25:57,940 I'm not kidding. 879 00:25:58,540 --> 00:26:01,200 I've not showered or shaved in two days. 880 00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:04,840 You know, I was literally making breakfast at 881 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,900 10 past 12. 882 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:08,200 Like I got a funny thing about this 883 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,640 is that I knew that this was happening 884 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,960 to you just from the way that we 885 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,880 interact on Signal. 886 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,220 I already knew this. 887 00:26:15,580 --> 00:26:18,220 I knew what you were, I knew exactly 888 00:26:18,220 --> 00:26:20,520 what was happening to you, that you were 889 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,300 getting sucked into what Alex is calling dopamine 890 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:24,360 driven development. 891 00:26:25,940 --> 00:26:26,460 DDD. 892 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,060 Uh-huh. 893 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:31,500 It's, it's, yeah, you can't do it. 894 00:26:31,820 --> 00:26:32,700 You can't do it. 895 00:26:32,740 --> 00:26:35,520 Like you have to, you have to develop. 896 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,880 You also can't have a family pretty much. 897 00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:41,240 The dog, the dog is whining. 898 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,820 Like, when am I going to get like 899 00:26:42,820 --> 00:26:43,640 this water? 900 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,980 It's food last night. 901 00:26:44,980 --> 00:26:46,680 So the dog came into the studio. 902 00:26:46,820 --> 00:26:47,680 That's where her bed is. 903 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:49,580 And you know, normally I take her out 904 00:26:49,580 --> 00:26:51,860 around nine, nine 30 for the final walk. 905 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,520 So it's 10 30. 906 00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:55,340 She comes into the studio, lays down on 907 00:26:55,340 --> 00:26:55,780 her bed. 908 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,180 And then at midnight, she gets up and 909 00:26:59,180 --> 00:27:00,880 go and looks at me and walks to 910 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,320 the door. 911 00:27:01,460 --> 00:27:03,820 It's like, dad, this is it, bro. 912 00:27:04,220 --> 00:27:05,200 We got to go. 913 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,140 Yeah. 914 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,100 And of course I'm working on this, on 915 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:09,080 a streaming server. 916 00:27:09,340 --> 00:27:11,460 So, you know, I'm listening on the walk, 917 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,640 you know, listening to transitions, how things are 918 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,720 flowing one into another and I come back 919 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,220 and you know, I still got a half 920 00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:19,020 glass of wine. 921 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,280 Like, okay, Phoebe in your bed. 922 00:27:20,380 --> 00:27:22,320 And when all we go, we can do 923 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,280 another hour. 924 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,480 Here we go. 925 00:27:24,580 --> 00:27:25,440 It's insane. 926 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,160 It's a couple of things that may help. 927 00:27:28,220 --> 00:27:30,880 One thing is I, I try, I really 928 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,900 do try not to code at night because 929 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:38,800 it's, it's too easy to just keep going. 930 00:27:38,860 --> 00:27:41,180 And then you, and then you get, you 931 00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:42,920 get terrible sleep for two reasons. 932 00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:46,880 One is that you don't, uh, you just 933 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,780 simply don't go to bed on hours, period. 934 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,440 Yeah. 935 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,200 I don't get enough hours. 936 00:27:51,260 --> 00:27:53,100 And the other one is when you finally 937 00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:55,940 do get in the bed, your mind is 938 00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:59,180 still thinking it over and over and over. 939 00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:00,400 Racing, racing. 940 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:01,060 Yeah. 941 00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:01,740 Even worse. 942 00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:04,220 I put the, my phone next to my 943 00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:05,940 bed and was listening in bed to the 944 00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:09,140 transitions between different elements on the streamer. 945 00:28:09,140 --> 00:28:09,280 Yeah. 946 00:28:09,460 --> 00:28:10,320 It's no, yeah. 947 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,540 It's like, that's a recipe for no sleep. 948 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,000 This is so bad, but I'm also having 949 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,920 so much fun. 950 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,660 That's the problem. 951 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:20,640 Yeah. 952 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,460 I'm really having a lot of fun. 953 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,160 It's in the thing. 954 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,520 Here's, here's another thing is that when you 955 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,480 like you, when, when you're in a situation 956 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,980 where like everybody's gone and you, you really 957 00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:38,820 have a whole lot of time, you think, 958 00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:40,520 you think you have time, but there's also 959 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,920 other obligations you have that you're not thinking 960 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,200 about, but yes, exactly. 961 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:44,680 Yes. 962 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:47,960 There's a, there's a long, like what you 963 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,160 can actually get a lot done, but what 964 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,540 happens, what tends to happen to me, and 965 00:28:53,540 --> 00:28:54,880 I think this is more than just me, 966 00:28:54,940 --> 00:28:58,800 I think this is, is more, more applicable 967 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,880 is that later you find out that that 968 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,980 long stretch of time, that 10 hours you 969 00:29:05,980 --> 00:29:09,460 spent on a single day coding, that some 970 00:29:09,460 --> 00:29:12,740 of that code, just because of like mental 971 00:29:12,740 --> 00:29:16,020 fatigue that you were not aware of, you 972 00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:17,580 can just toss it out. 973 00:29:17,740 --> 00:29:19,580 You're going to have to redo it later. 974 00:29:19,580 --> 00:29:20,820 You can toss it out. 975 00:29:21,540 --> 00:29:21,640 Yeah. 976 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,540 A lot like, like big coding blocks of 977 00:29:25,540 --> 00:29:29,800 like three, four hours at a time. 978 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,700 That's fun. 979 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,980 And you can get a lot accomplished, but 980 00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:34,900 when you start stretching it out for many, 981 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,300 many, many hours without, without kind of like 982 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:40,020 without stopping or only brief breaks, I think 983 00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:41,340 a lot of that, you're going to have 984 00:29:41,340 --> 00:29:42,700 to go back and you're going to find 985 00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:45,140 out later that it was not very good 986 00:29:45,140 --> 00:29:45,440 code. 987 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:45,980 Yeah. 988 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:46,960 Yeah. 989 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,080 And of course, if you're, if you're vibe 990 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:56,700 coding, it's, it's really interesting where, you know, 991 00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:58,080 now it's, I'm at the point where if 992 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,400 it says, well, clearly you have the wrong 993 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,100 version of FFmpeg installed. 994 00:30:02,180 --> 00:30:04,260 I'm like, okay, let's start a new conversation. 995 00:30:04,260 --> 00:30:05,900 Let's go back to the code I had 996 00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:06,420 before. 997 00:30:06,860 --> 00:30:09,600 And there was one, I had one bug. 998 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,860 It was literally a typo. 999 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,200 It does. 1000 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,260 The LLMs do a lot of typos like 1001 00:30:15,260 --> 00:30:15,980 pop open. 1002 00:30:16,060 --> 00:30:19,000 It'll be capital P capital O P E 1003 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,240 N. 1004 00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:21,040 Well, that won't work. 1005 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,240 It's got to be capital P lowercase O. 1006 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,100 So that stuff just pops in for no 1007 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:26,440 reason. 1008 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,540 You have some, some nut job on stack 1009 00:30:28,540 --> 00:30:31,060 overflow, posted it wrong one day and it 1010 00:30:31,060 --> 00:30:33,820 sucks it in completely incorrectly. 1011 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,780 That that's what's happening. 1012 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,160 And, um, what was it? 1013 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,780 Uh, so it was literally one line had 1014 00:30:41,780 --> 00:30:42,500 a bracket. 1015 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,460 It was, so I needed a space and 1016 00:30:44,460 --> 00:30:45,060 then a bracket. 1017 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,620 And now I'm getting actually pretty good at 1018 00:30:48,620 --> 00:30:50,540 reading code and I'm seeing, okay, what's going 1019 00:30:50,540 --> 00:30:51,040 on here. 1020 00:30:51,580 --> 00:30:53,280 And I couldn't figure this one out and 1021 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,840 it was going all over the place. 1022 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,040 And so I took the previous version, put 1023 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,240 it into new conversation. 1024 00:30:58,460 --> 00:30:58,780 Boom. 1025 00:30:58,780 --> 00:31:00,320 Oh, you need a space here. 1026 00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:03,940 So it could fix it in a whole 1027 00:31:03,940 --> 00:31:08,880 new, in a fresh start, which is bizarre. 1028 00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:10,500 Just bizarre. 1029 00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:12,280 And this is grock, right? 1030 00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:12,760 Yeah. 1031 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,140 Yeah. 1032 00:31:13,180 --> 00:31:14,820 Oh, that's your sucks. 1033 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,640 I've tried now chat GPT. 1034 00:31:18,820 --> 00:31:21,280 It makes everything so complicated. 1035 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,280 Takes you down so many roads and, um, 1036 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,960 and it, it maybe chat GPT just isn't 1037 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,940 as good at Python. 1038 00:31:29,460 --> 00:31:31,220 Grock I think is built on Python. 1039 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,820 It executes codes. 1040 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,860 Supposedly it says executing code. 1041 00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:35,180 Okay. 1042 00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:37,640 So I guess it's executing code. 1043 00:31:37,780 --> 00:31:39,420 I guess it's testing it internally. 1044 00:31:39,860 --> 00:31:41,180 I don't see how they can do that 1045 00:31:41,180 --> 00:31:42,420 for my 20 bucks a month. 1046 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,360 I really don't. 1047 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:44,880 I bet they can't. 1048 00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:46,740 I bet they're losing money on every request. 1049 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,940 I'm sucking up so much compute. 1050 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:49,960 I'm compute. 1051 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:51,260 I'm a compute monster. 1052 00:31:51,620 --> 00:31:52,500 I'm just eating it up. 1053 00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:53,400 Hmm. 1054 00:31:54,220 --> 00:31:54,500 Yeah. 1055 00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:55,800 No, I've tried Claude too. 1056 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,100 I mean, I've tried them all. 1057 00:31:57,180 --> 00:31:58,680 I have tried them all. 1058 00:31:59,220 --> 00:32:00,020 That's what sets. 1059 00:32:00,140 --> 00:32:00,860 What's so interesting. 1060 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,920 And maybe it just got used to how, 1061 00:32:02,980 --> 00:32:04,500 you know, maybe you just get used to 1062 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:08,060 the, the quirks of each individual model, you 1063 00:32:08,060 --> 00:32:10,980 know, each individual AI engine. 1064 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,000 You just get used to it. 1065 00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:13,360 Like, okay, now I know what, I know 1066 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:13,940 what this is. 1067 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,620 This is wrong. 1068 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:16,180 Let me go over here. 1069 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,600 What's funny is I was thinking, so I 1070 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,040 was finishing up that script, the HLS upload 1071 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:22,900 script this morning. 1072 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,280 And one, I had not spent the time. 1073 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,360 I never, the web hook server is the 1074 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,940 same thing that, you know, we use to 1075 00:32:34,940 --> 00:32:36,500 hook into sovereign feeds and all that. 1076 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,340 And it unlocks our node and all. 1077 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,240 So, I mean, it's just like a $5 1078 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,380 a month linode. 1079 00:32:41,540 --> 00:32:41,700 Yeah. 1080 00:32:42,580 --> 00:32:45,120 And I never took the time because I 1081 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,500 don't, there's really only like one or two 1082 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:49,420 scripts that run on that thing in response 1083 00:32:49,420 --> 00:32:50,040 to a web hook. 1084 00:32:50,180 --> 00:32:51,600 It's like one file. 1085 00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:53,260 So, I never took the time to like 1086 00:32:53,260 --> 00:32:54,440 set up my IDE. 1087 00:32:54,860 --> 00:32:58,300 I use PhpStorm from JetBrains. 1088 00:32:58,420 --> 00:32:59,700 And so, I never took the time to 1089 00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:01,060 like set all that up to where I 1090 00:33:01,060 --> 00:33:03,960 could hook in and do the development locally. 1091 00:33:04,980 --> 00:33:09,600 And so, I was like, oh, I need 1092 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,520 to put this script together. 1093 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,980 And I'm like, I'm just I don't want 1094 00:33:12,980 --> 00:33:14,020 to fool with all that. 1095 00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:15,300 I've only got a limited amount of time 1096 00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:15,920 before work. 1097 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,860 So, I'm going to just SSH in and 1098 00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:23,580 fire up Pico or Nano or whatever. 1099 00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:27,100 So, I start writing this code, you know, 1100 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,820 in Nano text editor on SSH. 1101 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,000 I'm so a VI guy. 1102 00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:34,700 It's like, and Grok keeps wanting to bring 1103 00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:35,580 me into Nano. 1104 00:33:35,860 --> 00:33:39,160 I'm like, no, no, no. 1105 00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:41,480 Don't you see what I'm doing every single 1106 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:41,840 time? 1107 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,880 I'm sorry, didn't mean to interrupt. 1108 00:33:43,220 --> 00:33:43,860 No, no, no, you're fine. 1109 00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:49,900 But it reminded me of the very first 1110 00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:52,920 code that we ever collaborated on together, the 1111 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,300 early days of Freedom Controller. 1112 00:33:55,020 --> 00:33:58,720 And all, I mean, almost, I bet you 1113 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,060 two-thirds of the Freedom Controller was written 1114 00:34:01,060 --> 00:34:04,040 in Pico in an SSH terminal. 1115 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,280 And I kid you not. 1116 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,239 It was, this was before, I mean, this 1117 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,520 was like, what, 15 years ago? 1118 00:34:10,060 --> 00:34:12,080 I mean, this is before, or I don't 1119 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,440 know how long ago, but this was sort 1120 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,179 of like before PHP IDEs. 1121 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,780 And like, the IDEs were not as mature 1122 00:34:21,780 --> 00:34:23,560 for PHP as they are now. 1123 00:34:23,780 --> 00:34:25,560 And so, I mean, it was all just 1124 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,980 text editor. 1125 00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:30,219 And the amount of bugs, of simple syntax 1126 00:34:30,219 --> 00:34:32,159 bugs, when you just don't have like color 1127 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,060 highlighting, it really threw me back. 1128 00:34:35,139 --> 00:34:36,199 I was like, this is awful. 1129 00:34:36,380 --> 00:34:37,179 I hate this. 1130 00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:38,420 I hate every second of it. 1131 00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:41,120 I can't believe that I wrote, you know, 1132 00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:44,360 10,000 lines of code in a text 1133 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:44,760 editor. 1134 00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:45,719 It's awful. 1135 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,260 I used to, I used to use Pine 1136 00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:50,260 as my email client. 1137 00:34:50,340 --> 00:34:51,360 I was pretty good at it. 1138 00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:53,360 I'll just look at the boardroom. 1139 00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:57,060 So one really good thing is, you know, 1140 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,480 so I'm building a management interface for people 1141 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,940 to just manage a streaming station. 1142 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,380 And the streaming station the music is all 1143 00:35:08,380 --> 00:35:09,320 pre-programmed. 1144 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,940 The format comes with a format. 1145 00:35:11,060 --> 00:35:11,840 You can change it around. 1146 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,560 The ideas, you can change it around. 1147 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,900 And then it has all these different slots, 1148 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:23,980 station ID, promo, church promo, the events, local. 1149 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:25,840 So these are all bins and it can 1150 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,600 pick something at random, or you can select 1151 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,280 something individually. 1152 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:31,720 And so I'm like, okay, I want a 1153 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:34,700 management interface so that it's just like a 1154 00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:36,520 calendar, just make it work like a calendar. 1155 00:35:37,060 --> 00:35:39,880 And it did, but it came up with 1156 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,400 such a cockamamie way of doing it because 1157 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,320 ultimately you have to send, everything has to 1158 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,080 go to the streaming server as one YML 1159 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,600 file, YAML. 1160 00:35:51,820 --> 00:35:54,780 And it had, it was so convoluted that 1161 00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:56,700 you wound up with a dashboard. 1162 00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:58,700 I'm telling you, this thing was nuts with 1163 00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:00,900 a dashboard, with all these code blocks. 1164 00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:03,780 And then if you inserted something into Wednesday, 1165 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,160 it would create another block for Wednesday, excluding 1166 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,280 that hour and a new block for Wednesday 1167 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,240 with just that hour. 1168 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:11,000 I'm like, what is going on? 1169 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,840 But so it did, it did make me 1170 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,360 think about how I wanted it to work. 1171 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,960 And that really to me is, is the 1172 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,800 core of, of software development, really sketching it 1173 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,440 out on paper. 1174 00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:25,600 Okay. 1175 00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:27,200 Here's how I think it should work. 1176 00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:28,140 Here's how it works. 1177 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,580 Here's, here's what makes sense. 1178 00:36:30,860 --> 00:36:32,500 And then you can actually get somewhere. 1179 00:36:34,590 --> 00:36:36,750 I think it, I forgot who it was. 1180 00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:40,450 Who's the guy that wrote the famous algorithm 1181 00:36:40,450 --> 00:36:41,090 book? 1182 00:36:43,930 --> 00:36:46,390 Man, there's a, there's a really famous book, 1183 00:36:46,730 --> 00:36:48,310 a computer science book on algorithms. 1184 00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:50,290 I think it was that guy who said 1185 00:36:50,290 --> 00:36:54,670 that you always have to like, to truly 1186 00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:58,210 get proper code, you need to rewrite it 1187 00:36:58,210 --> 00:36:58,850 three times. 1188 00:36:59,350 --> 00:37:00,910 The first, the first time is not going 1189 00:37:00,910 --> 00:37:01,310 to work. 1190 00:37:01,390 --> 00:37:03,330 The second time is going to work, but 1191 00:37:03,330 --> 00:37:04,090 it's not great. 1192 00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:05,930 And the third time is when you fully, 1193 00:37:06,350 --> 00:37:07,850 it's when, and it's not about, was it 1194 00:37:07,850 --> 00:37:08,570 Clifford Stein? 1195 00:37:10,370 --> 00:37:11,250 Thomas Corman. 1196 00:37:13,090 --> 00:37:13,450 Okay. 1197 00:37:14,450 --> 00:37:15,030 Let me see. 1198 00:37:15,370 --> 00:37:16,390 Introduction to algorithms. 1199 00:37:16,510 --> 00:37:17,730 Is that the one you're talking about? 1200 00:37:18,730 --> 00:37:19,090 Maybe. 1201 00:37:19,450 --> 00:37:19,790 Okay. 1202 00:37:20,010 --> 00:37:20,830 Well, it doesn't matter. 1203 00:37:21,370 --> 00:37:24,250 But it's like, but it's not the, it's 1204 00:37:24,250 --> 00:37:27,610 not the, the only thing that changes is 1205 00:37:27,610 --> 00:37:28,990 your understanding of the problem. 1206 00:37:29,930 --> 00:37:30,370 Yeah. 1207 00:37:30,370 --> 00:37:34,010 As you understand the problem better, you, you 1208 00:37:34,010 --> 00:37:37,350 begin to write code that more accurately maps 1209 00:37:37,350 --> 00:37:40,310 to the problem domain itself. 1210 00:37:40,410 --> 00:37:42,610 And so you, you know, and this can 1211 00:37:42,610 --> 00:37:44,450 also, but this can also have a, have 1212 00:37:44,450 --> 00:37:46,970 a negative effect too, because this is where, 1213 00:37:47,110 --> 00:37:51,790 this is where developers get into, get into 1214 00:37:51,790 --> 00:37:54,750 like a, an, not an echo chamber, but 1215 00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:56,710 like that you get blinders on because you 1216 00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:59,310 book if, especially when it doesn't show up 1217 00:37:59,310 --> 00:38:02,030 so much in, in sort of like backend 1218 00:38:02,030 --> 00:38:03,950 or under the covers code as it does 1219 00:38:03,950 --> 00:38:07,550 in user user interface development, you get so 1220 00:38:07,550 --> 00:38:11,510 hooked into solving a user interface problem that 1221 00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:13,490 you end up with a user interface that 1222 00:38:13,490 --> 00:38:16,310 works, but it is so complex that mere, 1223 00:38:16,510 --> 00:38:18,990 that regular humans don't know how to exactly. 1224 00:38:19,370 --> 00:38:19,490 Yeah. 1225 00:38:19,490 --> 00:38:21,350 That's exactly what happened by the way. 1226 00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:23,790 Flask is my, is my vibe, baby. 1227 00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:25,670 I love flask. 1228 00:38:25,930 --> 00:38:27,510 I don't know what that is. 1229 00:38:27,590 --> 00:38:28,590 Oh, it's heard of it. 1230 00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:34,250 It's a Python thingamabob that, that, that specifically 1231 00:38:34,250 --> 00:38:37,270 meant for creating web interfaces. 1232 00:38:38,290 --> 00:38:38,810 Okay. 1233 00:38:39,330 --> 00:38:39,550 Yes. 1234 00:38:39,630 --> 00:38:40,370 And it's pretty good. 1235 00:38:41,170 --> 00:38:44,130 I mean, it looks Mike, my web interface 1236 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:48,430 looks a lot like your freedom controller interface. 1237 00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:49,310 Yeah. 1238 00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:49,590 Yeah. 1239 00:38:49,610 --> 00:38:52,090 It's, it's unintelligible to me, to mere mortals. 1240 00:38:52,450 --> 00:38:55,210 No, it's actually, it's actually pretty simple. 1241 00:38:55,610 --> 00:38:57,070 It just looks like crap. 1242 00:38:57,250 --> 00:38:59,770 It just looks like, you know, you're expecting 1243 00:38:59,770 --> 00:39:01,010 a blink tag somewhere. 1244 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:02,410 That's basically what it looks like. 1245 00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:04,150 There's no, no design. 1246 00:39:04,370 --> 00:39:05,630 And I'm, I can't wait for the day 1247 00:39:05,630 --> 00:39:08,490 when I say, okay, let's beautify this and 1248 00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:09,650 see what, see what happens. 1249 00:39:09,890 --> 00:39:11,950 But I've got drag and drop of elements 1250 00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:13,350 and it's pretty cool. 1251 00:39:14,090 --> 00:39:14,890 It's pretty cool. 1252 00:39:15,490 --> 00:39:15,890 Yeah. 1253 00:39:15,930 --> 00:39:19,430 That the, the, the hardest, Oh, you got 1254 00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:20,130 drag and drop. 1255 00:39:20,250 --> 00:39:20,370 Yeah. 1256 00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:21,630 Drag and drop is no joke. 1257 00:39:21,830 --> 00:39:23,930 Web UI with drag and drop. 1258 00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:25,630 You gotta be real careful cause that thing 1259 00:39:25,630 --> 00:39:26,350 can get ugly. 1260 00:39:26,850 --> 00:39:27,310 Well, yes. 1261 00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:29,770 Well, um, you, what you do is you 1262 00:39:29,770 --> 00:39:33,810 use, um, so you use flask and then 1263 00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:35,130 this, what's this thing? 1264 00:39:35,250 --> 00:39:38,110 There's a, there's another thing that makes it 1265 00:39:38,110 --> 00:39:40,450 really easy to library. 1266 00:39:40,810 --> 00:39:45,240 Um, let me see. 1267 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:52,250 It is sortable. 1268 00:39:53,110 --> 00:39:55,010 It's a JavaScript library. 1269 00:39:58,050 --> 00:40:02,070 Sortable.min.js. Is that for sorting tables? 1270 00:40:02,170 --> 00:40:02,310 Yeah. 1271 00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:03,130 HTML tables. 1272 00:40:03,390 --> 00:40:04,850 Grunicum or whatever that to that. 1273 00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:06,010 That's another one of those. 1274 00:40:06,430 --> 00:40:07,490 Gunicum, whatever. 1275 00:40:09,250 --> 00:40:10,250 All these names. 1276 00:40:10,730 --> 00:40:11,090 Gunicorn. 1277 00:40:11,350 --> 00:40:11,490 Yeah. 1278 00:40:11,570 --> 00:40:12,030 Gunicorn. 1279 00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:13,170 I think that's what it is. 1280 00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:14,630 Yeah. 1281 00:40:14,730 --> 00:40:16,570 As soon as you put the first is 1282 00:40:16,570 --> 00:40:19,290 draggable on any element in your HTML interface, 1283 00:40:19,450 --> 00:40:21,310 you've entered the wild West. 1284 00:40:23,110 --> 00:40:23,890 Oh man. 1285 00:40:24,090 --> 00:40:26,230 I I'm enjoying it immensely though. 1286 00:40:26,450 --> 00:40:27,110 I'm really am. 1287 00:40:27,170 --> 00:40:29,210 Cause you know, I, I'm, I'm thinking pastors, 1288 00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:31,490 you know, I'm thinking pastors, I'm thinking marketing 1289 00:40:31,490 --> 00:40:33,070 people at a radio station. 1290 00:40:33,550 --> 00:40:36,010 Um, and yeah, don't, I think cotton gin 1291 00:40:36,010 --> 00:40:38,130 was just taunting me by saying, Oh, they 1292 00:40:38,130 --> 00:40:39,190 know NAM. 1293 00:40:39,950 --> 00:40:42,630 Uh, they just dropped liquid soap 2.4. 1294 00:40:42,730 --> 00:40:44,970 No, no, no, I'm not going down the 1295 00:40:44,970 --> 00:40:45,490 liquid soap. 1296 00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:48,690 He got it to work. 1297 00:40:48,850 --> 00:40:49,630 He got it to work. 1298 00:40:49,710 --> 00:40:50,930 And it has a, I mean, if you 1299 00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:53,470 really get it to work and it's singing 1300 00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:56,150 along, but there's so many dependencies, so much 1301 00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:56,810 can go wrong. 1302 00:40:57,070 --> 00:40:58,370 I just don't have the energy. 1303 00:40:58,770 --> 00:40:59,810 I'm loving FFmpeg. 1304 00:41:01,050 --> 00:41:03,070 No, it's pretty FFmpeg is tight. 1305 00:41:03,350 --> 00:41:04,010 It is. 1306 00:41:04,110 --> 00:41:05,350 It does a pretty good job. 1307 00:41:05,890 --> 00:41:08,910 It's got a, it's got, it's got to 1308 00:41:08,910 --> 00:41:11,350 have one of the longest lists of possible, 1309 00:41:11,350 --> 00:41:13,850 uh, plug in line parameters. 1310 00:41:14,090 --> 00:41:14,630 Oh, parameters. 1311 00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:15,210 Oh yeah. 1312 00:41:15,310 --> 00:41:16,190 Oh, absolutely. 1313 00:41:16,810 --> 00:41:18,270 I mean, you can make, you can make 1314 00:41:18,270 --> 00:41:22,490 an FFmpeg command that is like 12 lines 1315 00:41:22,490 --> 00:41:23,250 long, you know? 1316 00:41:23,650 --> 00:41:24,450 Well, it's cool. 1317 00:41:24,510 --> 00:41:26,090 You know, it's like you can use it 1318 00:41:26,090 --> 00:41:27,450 to normalize stuff. 1319 00:41:27,790 --> 00:41:31,030 You, although the, I made a processing chain, 1320 00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:35,970 man, the assumptions, uh, Grok LLM made were 1321 00:41:35,970 --> 00:41:36,650 pretty nuts. 1322 00:41:37,310 --> 00:41:37,970 Oh really? 1323 00:41:38,090 --> 00:41:44,050 I was like, that sounds like the roadcast. 1324 00:41:44,070 --> 00:41:46,010 It sounds like the opposite of the roadcaster. 1325 00:41:46,210 --> 00:41:48,110 Yeah, it was, it was quite amazing. 1326 00:41:48,670 --> 00:41:49,450 Quite amazing. 1327 00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:49,830 All right. 1328 00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:52,190 So I don't know my, my, uh, my, 1329 00:41:52,270 --> 00:41:54,250 my recording thing here. 1330 00:41:55,150 --> 00:41:57,850 We've, the recording has been at 90 megabytes 1331 00:41:57,850 --> 00:41:59,570 for about 15 minutes. 1332 00:41:59,750 --> 00:42:01,050 So it'd be a failed experiment. 1333 00:42:01,510 --> 00:42:03,470 That's 90 megabytes for video. 1334 00:42:03,630 --> 00:42:05,030 Nah, that doesn't sound right. 1335 00:42:05,210 --> 00:42:07,510 Nah, this is, this is, this sounds bad. 1336 00:42:07,610 --> 00:42:08,350 Oh, it's too bad. 1337 00:42:08,530 --> 00:42:09,710 And I, I, I see that. 1338 00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:12,370 I think the fountain screencast is either not 1339 00:42:12,370 --> 00:42:14,630 implemented or not done properly because I can 1340 00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:17,710 screencast from YouTube TV and it pulls up 1341 00:42:17,710 --> 00:42:18,830 my TV right away. 1342 00:42:19,130 --> 00:42:21,110 So that must, that must be a bug 1343 00:42:21,110 --> 00:42:22,810 or not implemented or something. 1344 00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:24,730 Oh, okay. 1345 00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:25,910 It's not coming through to the. 1346 00:42:26,030 --> 00:42:28,610 No, but, but man, in general, that was 1347 00:42:28,610 --> 00:42:30,410 a, that was a wonderful experiment. 1348 00:42:31,690 --> 00:42:34,030 I, I, I want, I want a snippet 1349 00:42:34,030 --> 00:42:36,110 of us all jubilant on pod news. 1350 00:42:38,350 --> 00:42:38,770 Yeah. 1351 00:42:38,850 --> 00:42:39,570 With confetti. 1352 00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:43,290 Exactly. 1353 00:42:45,870 --> 00:42:48,250 This is kind of annoying with the, actually 1354 00:42:48,250 --> 00:42:49,590 I'm going to try to, let's see, let 1355 00:42:49,590 --> 00:42:52,490 me, let me hiccup the stream and see 1356 00:42:52,490 --> 00:42:53,590 if it'll start over. 1357 00:42:53,870 --> 00:42:55,090 Now here's a good question. 1358 00:42:57,130 --> 00:43:04,300 Um, if let, let's say it, well, we 1359 00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:06,060 have, there, there is a, there is a 1360 00:43:06,060 --> 00:43:09,520 general problem with doing this next phase of 1361 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,420 this experiment, uh, with, with, with putting the 1362 00:43:14,420 --> 00:43:17,960 HLS video stream into the regular episode item. 1363 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,260 And that is how do you time sink? 1364 00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:26,720 You know, if, if you're expecting, if you're 1365 00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:28,400 a, if you're a listener and you're expecting 1366 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,200 to be able to bounce back and forth 1367 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,020 between the video and the audio, you're talking 1368 00:43:33,020 --> 00:43:34,500 very advanced stuff here. 1369 00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:37,340 Well, well, yeah. 1370 00:43:37,620 --> 00:43:38,600 You know what you need? 1371 00:43:39,620 --> 00:43:40,400 A clapper. 1372 00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:42,480 Three, two, one. 1373 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:42,820 Oh yeah. 1374 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,060 Yeah. 1375 00:43:43,220 --> 00:43:44,100 Three, two, one. 1376 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:44,260 Yeah. 1377 00:43:44,380 --> 00:43:44,740 Okay. 1378 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,180 Start. 1379 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:45,460 Yeah. 1380 00:43:45,980 --> 00:43:47,680 And then, then you can find the point 1381 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,800 and you can sync it up. 1382 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,020 Is there, you just have to, uh, put 1383 00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:54,400 in a sync point in your video and 1384 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,560 in your audio and then Bob's your uncle. 1385 00:43:57,660 --> 00:44:00,340 We're, we're back to the 1930s, uh, filming. 1386 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,360 See, Alex said, I think I was suggesting 1387 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,420 to Spurlock an offset attribute. 1388 00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:09,600 See, in that, I think that's, that's going 1389 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,800 to have to be what, what this is, 1390 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,300 is it's going to have to be some 1391 00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:17,600 cause you can't depend on here's what we 1392 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:17,860 have. 1393 00:44:17,940 --> 00:44:21,720 This is perfect because we have to, we 1394 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:25,100 have the ability here to build this the 1395 00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:27,660 right way from the, like at, from the 1396 00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:30,300 beginning and the right to me, what I'm 1397 00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:32,500 calling the right way is I should not 1398 00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:35,400 have, I, as a podcaster should not have 1399 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,100 to do some extra step to make sure 1400 00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:41,360 that the video and audio are going to 1401 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,200 be synced in the, in the podcast feed. 1402 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,620 I should be able to record my HLS 1403 00:44:48,620 --> 00:44:51,320 stream just like we did. 1404 00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:53,180 Like you, we, you know, we're half, we're, 1405 00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:55,620 I don't know, 10 minutes into the show. 1406 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,260 And then I fire up the, and then 1407 00:45:00,260 --> 00:45:01,940 I fire up the HLS stream because I 1408 00:45:01,940 --> 00:45:05,960 forgot or something like that. 1409 00:45:05,980 --> 00:45:07,980 And then I should still just be able 1410 00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:13,000 to say, okay, I record it, post it. 1411 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,540 And then exactly. 1412 00:45:17,180 --> 00:45:17,820 Yes. 1413 00:45:18,140 --> 00:45:19,040 Mad scissors. 1414 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,240 I'm running with scissors over here, baby. 1415 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,720 So then we, I just be able to, 1416 00:45:24,780 --> 00:45:27,940 you can post the audio and video, but 1417 00:45:27,940 --> 00:45:31,460 we provide enough information so that the podcast 1418 00:45:31,460 --> 00:45:34,820 app can figure out how to sync them. 1419 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,660 We haven't even done that with dynamically inserted 1420 00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:40,280 ads yet. 1421 00:45:40,340 --> 00:45:41,720 It might be, it might be a twofer 1422 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:47,900 with transcripts, you know, transcripts and then DAI 1423 00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:48,520 are a problem. 1424 00:45:51,610 --> 00:45:51,890 Yeah. 1425 00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:58,240 So this, this tells me, I mean, my, 1426 00:45:59,060 --> 00:46:06,980 if there's a timestamp in the, um, you 1427 00:46:06,980 --> 00:46:08,920 could, I could see hitting this from multiple 1428 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:10,920 directions, you know? 1429 00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:12,920 So if there's a time, there's gotta be 1430 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,560 a timestamp somewhere, a UTC timestamp of when 1431 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,360 a sort of the canonical start time of 1432 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:26,140 this episode and when, when was it? 1433 00:46:26,860 --> 00:46:32,320 And then you could either have the file 1434 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,240 itself timestamped in sort of like the ID 1435 00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:36,540 three tag or something. 1436 00:46:38,220 --> 00:46:45,970 Um, the, yeah, it's a Spurlock says players 1437 00:46:45,970 --> 00:46:47,270 to see video in the feed and want 1438 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:48,830 flawless sync experience back and forth. 1439 00:46:48,970 --> 00:46:51,010 We use the audio from the HLS, ignoring 1440 00:46:51,010 --> 00:46:52,930 the MP3 entirely like Spotify does. 1441 00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:53,690 Yeah. 1442 00:46:53,710 --> 00:46:55,690 But see, to me, that's, that's, that just 1443 00:46:55,690 --> 00:46:56,510 is not right. 1444 00:46:57,330 --> 00:46:59,710 I understand that's the easy way to make 1445 00:46:59,710 --> 00:47:01,590 sure that things are in sync, but man, 1446 00:47:02,150 --> 00:47:05,430 cause cause the HLS audio, like if, if 1447 00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:08,550 people use the HLS audio from this, it 1448 00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:11,290 would not be as good as your processed 1449 00:47:11,290 --> 00:47:11,790 audio. 1450 00:47:12,350 --> 00:47:15,770 You have the, you have the best audio 1451 00:47:15,770 --> 00:47:19,390 experience in your, in, in, in your MP3. 1452 00:47:19,710 --> 00:47:19,810 Yes. 1453 00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:21,750 That should be used. 1454 00:47:22,430 --> 00:47:25,130 And the, the alternate enclosure is an alternate. 1455 00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:27,650 It should not be used as the enclosure. 1456 00:47:28,490 --> 00:47:28,970 Right. 1457 00:47:29,230 --> 00:47:32,330 Well, it's, it's a minor hassle to flip 1458 00:47:32,330 --> 00:47:35,230 back to video from video to audio and 1459 00:47:35,230 --> 00:47:36,310 it being out of sync. 1460 00:47:36,310 --> 00:47:38,650 I mean, it seems like there's, there's ways 1461 00:47:38,650 --> 00:47:39,270 to do it. 1462 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,140 Well, you know, and that's what I was 1463 00:47:43,140 --> 00:47:45,120 trying to, you know, this was thinking through 1464 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,940 is that if you have, if there's a 1465 00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:51,400 master timestamp somewhere to say this, if there's 1466 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,700 a master timestamp somewhere, and then either the 1467 00:47:53,700 --> 00:47:59,320 files or the enclosures referencing or the tags 1468 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,880 referencing the files have a corresponding timestamp as 1469 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,180 well. 1470 00:48:05,260 --> 00:48:06,140 Well, hold on a second. 1471 00:48:06,580 --> 00:48:07,840 Then you just need an offset. 1472 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,660 I mean, if you, yeah, if you just 1473 00:48:10,660 --> 00:48:13,520 have your video file and you started at 1474 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,640 the very head and you have your audio 1475 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,180 file and you start at the very head, 1476 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,640 it should in principle be pretty. 1477 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,380 Now there's all kinds of reasons why it 1478 00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:24,520 would get a little bit out of sync, 1479 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,800 but in principle it should be pretty close 1480 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,440 to equal. 1481 00:48:28,660 --> 00:48:30,180 I don't see why it wouldn't be if 1482 00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:32,100 you do, if both playing at the same 1483 00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:35,620 time or you're referencing that timestamp. 1484 00:48:40,420 --> 00:48:42,780 But see, like, so we're, we're the worst 1485 00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:43,360 case scenario. 1486 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,120 This is, this is a great example of 1487 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,260 the worst case scenario because I'm recording video 1488 00:48:48,260 --> 00:48:50,600 on my side, you're recording audio on your 1489 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:50,980 side. 1490 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,680 Neither one of us did anything to try 1491 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,600 to stay in sync. 1492 00:48:56,460 --> 00:48:59,880 And somehow, and we're going to put both 1493 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,840 of these things into the episode. 1494 00:49:02,140 --> 00:49:03,840 We're not putting anything in because it stopped 1495 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,380 recording at 90 megs. 1496 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,400 Yeah, but we should still stick it in 1497 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:07,600 there. 1498 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:11,280 Why not? 1499 00:49:12,260 --> 00:49:12,800 Stick it in. 1500 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:13,340 I agree. 1501 00:49:13,620 --> 00:49:14,600 Hey, stick it in. 1502 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,220 Who cares? 1503 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,240 Okay. 1504 00:49:16,340 --> 00:49:17,380 I mean, it could be, it could be 1505 00:49:17,380 --> 00:49:19,720 a quick time movie for all who we 1506 00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:20,600 need to stick it in there. 1507 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,540 Quick time movie. 1508 00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:24,740 What was that thing? 1509 00:49:24,820 --> 00:49:25,660 What was that old thing? 1510 00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:26,720 The Divx? 1511 00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:27,720 It could be Divx. 1512 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:28,360 Divx. 1513 00:49:28,460 --> 00:49:29,960 Oh man, Divx. 1514 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,320 Oh, I forgot about that. 1515 00:49:32,220 --> 00:49:33,160 Hey, how are you on time? 1516 00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:33,960 We're at 138. 1517 00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:36,380 Do you got to go back to the 1518 00:49:36,380 --> 00:49:36,760 office? 1519 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,860 Uh, I mean, I, I need, it's just 1520 00:49:39,860 --> 00:49:41,540 standard, you know, standard stuff. 1521 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,260 So I'll be, well, we got another 10 1522 00:49:44,260 --> 00:49:44,620 or 15 minutes. 1523 00:49:44,620 --> 00:49:46,120 Well, then why don't we thank some people 1524 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,100 and, uh, and wrap it up with whatever 1525 00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:48,940 thoughts we have. 1526 00:49:48,940 --> 00:49:49,600 Because. 1527 00:49:50,260 --> 00:49:50,500 Okay. 1528 00:49:50,660 --> 00:49:51,580 I don't want you to be late. 1529 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,780 Here's, uh, here are the live boosts that 1530 00:49:53,780 --> 00:49:54,240 came in. 1531 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,280 Not all of them were audible due to 1532 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,320 a roadcaster. 1533 00:49:59,940 --> 00:50:00,900 Upbeats 333. 1534 00:50:01,180 --> 00:50:03,120 Dave resisted the urge to build before heading 1535 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:03,340 out. 1536 00:50:03,460 --> 00:50:05,140 Sounds like another good data segment. 1537 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,020 Well, I think we just did it actually. 1538 00:50:09,460 --> 00:50:11,080 A thousand from Doma. 1539 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,860 Missed y'all live last week. 1540 00:50:12,980 --> 00:50:13,940 Here's a few shekels. 1541 00:50:14,140 --> 00:50:14,500 Thank you. 1542 00:50:15,620 --> 00:50:17,220 Uh, let me see. 1543 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,580 Seth 215 sats. 1544 00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:20,000 Seth. 1545 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,260 Uh, I don't think that's Sam Seth. 1546 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,520 The S3TH. 1547 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,700 Sounds like you're in a tunnel or an 1548 00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:27,100 airplane. 1549 00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:28,060 Yes, indeed. 1550 00:50:29,060 --> 00:50:29,580 Yeah. 1551 00:50:29,620 --> 00:50:30,500 That's being generous. 1552 00:50:30,740 --> 00:50:35,960 Master Poe sent a couple of, uh, two 1553 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,080 boosts. 1554 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:40,160 One, both from one from Castamatic and one 1555 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,100 from the index. 1556 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,280 The first one, one, two, three, four grasshopper 1557 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:45,760 rumors. 1558 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,660 I like the wind. 1559 00:50:46,820 --> 00:50:48,200 They stir the leaves, but they do not 1560 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,780 move the roots before you repeat the claim. 1561 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:51,720 Seek it's truth. 1562 00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:53,860 If there's no evidence that key send is 1563 00:50:53,860 --> 00:50:55,880 ending, they do not let fear dictate the 1564 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,260 path. 1565 00:50:56,740 --> 00:50:57,980 Thus you must guide your peers. 1566 00:50:57,980 --> 00:50:59,400 Not with fear of what may come, but 1567 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,240 with balance say, do not remove key send 1568 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,080 until its work is truly replaced. 1569 00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:06,960 Add Ellen address where you can, but not 1570 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,000 the server roots that feed the tree in 1571 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:09,220 this. 1572 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,600 You walk the middle path. 1573 00:51:11,460 --> 00:51:12,660 Oh, wow. 1574 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,020 Such wisdom from the top of the stairs. 1575 00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:15,340 Yeah. 1576 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,000 And master Poe comes in again with three 1577 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,900 33 grasshopper. 1578 00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:21,360 Key send grasshopper. 1579 00:51:21,740 --> 00:51:24,480 Key send an Ellen address are not rivals, 1580 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,760 rivals, but different paths. 1581 00:51:27,460 --> 00:51:29,720 The old bridge remains strong while the new 1582 00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:31,480 has yet to span all rivers. 1583 00:51:31,980 --> 00:51:34,420 Keep both in your steps for one serves 1584 00:51:34,420 --> 00:51:36,780 them any and the other beckons the future. 1585 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,620 Do not sever what still nurtures the tree. 1586 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,680 Balance is the path and wisdom guides the 1587 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,040 way. 1588 00:51:45,620 --> 00:51:46,920 I don't know what to make of that. 1589 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,900 That's a, I don't know, but it's beautiful. 1590 00:51:50,620 --> 00:51:50,720 Yeah. 1591 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,280 It did sound a bit like master CBS, 1592 00:51:53,460 --> 00:51:53,940 a CSB. 1593 00:51:54,140 --> 00:51:56,520 It wasn't quite CSB. 1594 00:51:56,860 --> 00:51:58,260 Snatched the coin from my hand. 1595 00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:58,580 Yeah. 1596 00:51:58,620 --> 00:51:59,900 The pedal is when you can snatch the 1597 00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:00,700 pedals from my hand. 1598 00:52:00,740 --> 00:52:02,700 It is time for you to leave grasshopper. 1599 00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:04,780 All right, Dave, you got anything there? 1600 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,140 You got some booster grams and something on 1601 00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:08,840 your, uh, your list there. 1602 00:52:09,140 --> 00:52:10,800 By the way, I think we really earned 1603 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,040 our spurs today, man. 1604 00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:14,580 We earned something. 1605 00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:16,500 And you're sure you want me to put 1606 00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:18,660 all that nonsense in the beginning at the 1607 00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:19,500 beginning of the, okay. 1608 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,520 Yes. 1609 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,680 I'll clean up any big gaps, but we'll 1610 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,580 take it as it is. 1611 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:25,320 Yeah. 1612 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,680 I mean, you got no post, no zero 1613 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:29,620 post show. 1614 00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:30,380 I love it. 1615 00:52:31,060 --> 00:52:36,040 Uh, the boys at bus sprout $1,000. 1616 00:52:36,660 --> 00:52:37,240 Hello. 1617 00:52:41,940 --> 00:52:44,480 Thank you boys for keeping it all running. 1618 00:52:44,540 --> 00:52:45,980 So highly appreciated. 1619 00:52:47,380 --> 00:52:51,800 Uh, the, I should say boys and girls. 1620 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:52,260 Yes. 1621 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,220 There are girls at bus. 1622 00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:53,620 Yes. 1623 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:53,940 Yes. 1624 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:54,280 Indeed. 1625 00:52:54,460 --> 00:52:54,840 Indeed. 1626 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:56,640 Thank you, Tom. 1627 00:52:56,780 --> 00:52:57,340 Thank you, Kevin. 1628 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,240 Appreciate you guys. 1629 00:52:59,140 --> 00:53:03,440 Uh, this, uh, who's, uh, I'm going to 1630 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,040 have a hard time pronouncing this name. 1631 00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:09,180 Mikhail Breyer, I think is how you say 1632 00:53:09,180 --> 00:53:09,480 this. 1633 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:09,880 Okay. 1634 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,360 Uh, $24. 1635 00:53:11,780 --> 00:53:12,160 No note. 1636 00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:13,160 Oh, thank you, Mikhail. 1637 00:53:13,580 --> 00:53:14,140 Thank you. 1638 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:15,620 Appreciate that Mikhail. 1639 00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:17,820 And we get some, uh, I really like 1640 00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:19,280 how you sound by the way in this 1641 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:19,480 setting. 1642 00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:20,620 I'm going to save this as the new 1643 00:53:20,620 --> 00:53:22,080 podcasting 2.0 setting. 1644 00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:22,800 You sound good. 1645 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,320 Is it, am I on the JCD hot 1646 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:25,600 mix? 1647 00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:26,560 Yeah. 1648 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,980 Well, I've tweaked it a little bit. 1649 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,240 Um, you know, it's the mic man. 1650 00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:31,880 It's the mic, the mic really works. 1651 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,540 I'm doing my best JCD impression around this. 1652 00:53:36,580 --> 00:53:37,460 So it's probably coming through. 1653 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:38,180 Yeah, it's working. 1654 00:53:38,980 --> 00:53:39,840 Uh, let's see. 1655 00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:42,860 We got some boost to grams that we 1656 00:53:42,860 --> 00:53:43,400 got here. 1657 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,780 Uh, Oh, Kyron for the mill more mortals 1658 00:53:46,780 --> 00:53:48,480 podcast, Satchel Richards. 1659 00:53:48,620 --> 00:53:51,280 He says, I'm definitely one of those people 1660 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,620 who won't be running a node or hardware. 1661 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,980 I'm totally fine with the trade-off that 1662 00:53:55,980 --> 00:53:57,500 I could get rugged at any time. 1663 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,120 I should change my middle name to thistle 1664 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,500 Kyra and thistle down sophisticated. 1665 00:54:03,140 --> 00:54:05,540 And I'm not AI, by the way, I 1666 00:54:05,540 --> 00:54:08,820 was listening to, um, to power, power, power 1667 00:54:08,820 --> 00:54:09,200 FM. 1668 00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:11,620 And they were talking about, you know, the 1669 00:54:11,620 --> 00:54:14,980 James and, uh, uh, Sam are very, uh, 1670 00:54:14,980 --> 00:54:17,420 very, uh, I don't know what the right 1671 00:54:17,420 --> 00:54:18,940 word is, but they're not liking that. 1672 00:54:18,980 --> 00:54:22,180 Uh, you know, the, the AI, the inception 1673 00:54:22,180 --> 00:54:26,400 point inception point and James made such a 1674 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:26,940 great point. 1675 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,340 I don't know if he really knew what 1676 00:54:29,340 --> 00:54:31,280 he was saying, but he said, well, at 1677 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,480 a certain point you'll, you'll essentially have a 1678 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,880 robot making the podcast. 1679 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,240 And because of people subscribing and it just 1680 00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,280 downloaded with people never listened to it. 1681 00:54:42,340 --> 00:54:44,580 It's just a robot talking to a robot. 1682 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:45,780 No one ever hears it. 1683 00:54:45,860 --> 00:54:48,040 And yet somehow advertisers are paying for it. 1684 00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:50,410 Yeah. 1685 00:54:50,550 --> 00:54:54,410 So like, um, it's dead casting Dick. 1686 00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:54,990 Yeah. 1687 00:54:55,130 --> 00:54:56,750 It was a dead internet theory. 1688 00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:57,870 Yeah. 1689 00:54:58,670 --> 00:55:00,870 And it was, I was listening to him 1690 00:55:00,870 --> 00:55:03,770 like, Oh, James, quiet about that, man. 1691 00:55:03,790 --> 00:55:05,210 You don't want anyone to hear that. 1692 00:55:05,370 --> 00:55:07,850 What downloads aren't always listens. 1693 00:55:08,010 --> 00:55:12,190 What the thing I was thinking about with 1694 00:55:12,190 --> 00:55:17,230 that is, um, like if you, so if 1695 00:55:17,230 --> 00:55:22,260 you took, if it would be super easy 1696 00:55:22,260 --> 00:55:24,940 to do, to do this, I think to 1697 00:55:24,940 --> 00:55:27,980 get the economics of this and I'm guessing 1698 00:55:27,980 --> 00:55:29,860 this is something like what they're doing. 1699 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,140 I'm saying inception or whoever this company is. 1700 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,180 I'm, I'm, I'm guessing that this might be 1701 00:55:36,180 --> 00:55:39,680 it is you take, you, you pump out 1702 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,680 some shows with AI and then you use 1703 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:50,880 some, some kind of a traffic generator scheme 1704 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:51,540 type thing. 1705 00:55:51,540 --> 00:55:54,020 Like, like Mo pod, like Mo, you know, 1706 00:55:54,060 --> 00:55:56,020 Mo pod is you can buy, you can 1707 00:55:56,020 --> 00:55:57,400 essentially buy subscribers. 1708 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:57,700 Yeah. 1709 00:55:57,700 --> 00:55:58,440 It's arbitrage. 1710 00:55:58,740 --> 00:55:59,980 It's complete arbitrage. 1711 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:00,320 Yeah. 1712 00:56:00,340 --> 00:56:01,960 And then you just play the arbitrage. 1713 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,780 And I looked in the index and they 1714 00:56:04,780 --> 00:56:06,640 have to be doing something like that. 1715 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,360 So you just get enough, uh, you know, 1716 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,280 things like Mo, uh, these products like Mo 1717 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,800 pod, they, um, I think the way they 1718 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,740 do is they use advertising in like games 1719 00:56:17,740 --> 00:56:19,120 and stuff like that to get people to 1720 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,340 temporarily, to get people to screw, go to 1721 00:56:21,340 --> 00:56:22,620 the podcast and subscribe. 1722 00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:23,280 Yes. 1723 00:56:23,820 --> 00:56:26,700 And then, so you'll get a temporary boost 1724 00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:27,580 in downloads. 1725 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,940 And I think the way that like, especially 1726 00:56:29,940 --> 00:56:32,080 the Apple podcast app works, I think what 1727 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,060 you would have to do is you would 1728 00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:36,020 have to release a bunch of episodes at 1729 00:56:36,020 --> 00:56:40,120 once or very quickly back to back every 1730 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,200 day, every day. 1731 00:56:41,260 --> 00:56:44,340 As an example, yeah, that appears to be 1732 00:56:44,340 --> 00:56:44,800 what's happening. 1733 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,940 Cause if you look at the end, if 1734 00:56:45,940 --> 00:56:47,540 you look at the episode release dates and 1735 00:56:47,540 --> 00:56:49,960 the index for these shows, what you see 1736 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,380 is like a cluster of episodes released within 1737 00:56:52,380 --> 00:56:53,800 a one day or two or three day 1738 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:54,180 period. 1739 00:56:54,380 --> 00:56:55,780 And then there'll be nothing for a while. 1740 00:56:56,620 --> 00:56:58,420 And so you see, you, you see like 1741 00:56:58,420 --> 00:57:01,580 essentially batches of episodes and those must correspond 1742 00:57:01,580 --> 00:57:04,520 to the arbitrage campaign that they're working, that 1743 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:04,900 they're running. 1744 00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:05,300 Yeah. 1745 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,200 Well, I mean, the math is simple. 1746 00:57:07,460 --> 00:57:10,660 If you've got 3000 episodes a week, that's 1747 00:57:10,660 --> 00:57:12,020 12,000 a month. 1748 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,780 And if you can get a hundred, a 1749 00:57:14,780 --> 00:57:19,480 hundred people, I'm sorry, a hundred downloads per 1750 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,100 episode, which is not much. 1751 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,300 So you're now talking a million. 1752 00:57:24,420 --> 00:57:24,940 Am I right? 1753 00:57:25,260 --> 00:57:26,180 Am I saying that right? 1754 00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:29,800 No, I can't podcast math. 1755 00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:31,940 Hold on. 1756 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:38,500 So we have 12,000 times 100 is 1757 00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:38,760 yeah. 1758 00:57:38,820 --> 00:57:41,260 1.2 million downloads. 1759 00:57:42,050 --> 00:57:45,200 So that is divided by a thousand. 1760 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:51,540 That is 1200 times, let's say remnant inventory. 1761 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,180 So let's say five bucks. 1762 00:57:53,940 --> 00:57:55,000 Eh, it's not really worth it. 1763 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,360 $6,000 a month. 1764 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,380 That's not really worth it. 1765 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,800 There's got, we've seen this type of like 1766 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,160 at scale, at a, at a big enough 1767 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:05,660 scale. 1768 00:58:05,660 --> 00:58:08,060 No, it, it, it starts to make sense, 1769 00:58:08,180 --> 00:58:09,860 but not for a company with, you know, 1770 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,580 five people in the, in the C-suite. 1771 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:14,820 Well, no, what I was going to say 1772 00:58:14,820 --> 00:58:16,340 though, I was going to say something different 1773 00:58:16,340 --> 00:58:18,900 though, is, is the, like, we've seen this 1774 00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:19,400 before. 1775 00:58:19,940 --> 00:58:27,580 We've seen this, this sort of like loopholing 1776 00:58:27,580 --> 00:58:32,560 of, of a, of a way of an, 1777 00:58:32,620 --> 00:58:34,720 of a money earning scheme on the web. 1778 00:58:35,100 --> 00:58:37,500 I mean, these content, these web content factories 1779 00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:43,000 that like Quora and like these, those have 1780 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,020 been around a long time. 1781 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,240 This is an old scheme. 1782 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:45,600 Yeah. 1783 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,060 It just happens to be using new technology 1784 00:58:48,060 --> 00:58:50,480 to do this old scheme and where, you 1785 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,680 know, recipe websites. 1786 00:58:51,940 --> 00:58:53,960 I mean, come on, come on. 1787 00:58:54,300 --> 00:58:57,060 Well, here, here's, here's the, what, what I 1788 00:58:57,060 --> 00:58:58,560 propose and then we should continue. 1789 00:58:58,600 --> 00:58:59,620 Cause you're going to be real late. 1790 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,860 I propose we let them go because they'll 1791 00:59:03,860 --> 00:59:07,520 probably come up with 50,000, not 5 1792 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,180 ,000 podcasts, but 50,000. 1793 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,020 And you know, when the stuff is humming 1794 00:59:12,020 --> 00:59:13,200 along, then we're going to send them a 1795 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,100 little note and say, yeah, we're thinking of 1796 00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:18,560 blocking you from the index, but you know, 1797 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:19,480 we'll take a donation. 1798 00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:24,580 That's a protection racket. 1799 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,320 That's exactly what it is. 1800 00:59:26,540 --> 00:59:28,240 You wouldn't want anything bad to happen. 1801 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,120 Would you be ashamed of something bad happened 1802 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,200 to these AI podcasts? 1803 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:34,800 Come on, man. 1804 00:59:35,140 --> 00:59:37,380 Give us the rest of our, our V4V 1805 00:59:37,380 --> 00:59:37,980 people here. 1806 00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:38,920 I want to get you out. 1807 00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:39,920 Oh, okay. 1808 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:40,320 Okay. 1809 00:59:41,660 --> 00:59:42,400 Let's see. 1810 00:59:42,540 --> 00:59:44,500 We got, there's the delimiter. 1811 00:59:44,900 --> 00:59:46,240 When these came in a little bit out 1812 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:46,940 of order here. 1813 00:59:48,740 --> 00:59:53,720 Oh, this a citizen, a podverse, Satchel Richards, 1814 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,220 a legacy boost using deprecated technology. 1815 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:56,720 Okay. 1816 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:56,940 Okay. 1817 00:59:57,780 --> 00:59:58,440 Yeah, I got you. 1818 00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:02,320 I think I have, I have, I have 1819 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:02,820 a jingle. 1820 01:00:03,620 --> 01:00:05,240 Uh, yeah, we do have that. 1821 01:00:05,580 --> 01:00:05,860 Hey, citizen. 1822 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:06,720 There we go. 1823 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:07,340 I knew I had it. 1824 01:00:07,420 --> 01:00:07,840 Yeah, there it is. 1825 01:00:07,980 --> 01:00:08,080 Yeah. 1826 01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:11,620 5,000 stats from anonymous through podcast index. 1827 01:00:11,740 --> 01:00:13,780 The most consistent trade I see in the 1828 01:00:13,780 --> 01:00:16,240 decentralization ecosystem is inconsistency. 1829 01:00:16,340 --> 01:00:16,480 Yeah. 1830 01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:17,220 No kidding. 1831 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,620 Whether, whether it's related to Noster podcasting, value 1832 01:00:20,620 --> 01:00:22,800 for value music or private messaging, everybody wants 1833 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,340 to make a baby, but nobody wants to 1834 01:00:24,340 --> 01:00:27,340 raise it straight up. 1835 01:00:27,460 --> 01:00:29,080 Hey, that's called open source software. 1836 01:00:29,260 --> 01:00:31,840 That's just, that's exactly what it is. 1837 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,260 And you know what I, you know what 1838 01:00:33,260 --> 01:00:33,980 else you call it? 1839 01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:36,540 Freedom. 1840 01:00:36,540 --> 01:00:36,980 Freedom. 1841 01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:40,500 See loss on Linux 22, 22 row of 1842 01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:41,100 ducks through fountain. 1843 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:42,480 He says, I'm back. 1844 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,500 I ran out of sats and then took 1845 01:00:44,500 --> 01:00:45,160 a summer break. 1846 01:00:45,220 --> 01:00:47,100 People tell me you're supposed to chill out 1847 01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:48,580 and not be busy constantly. 1848 01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:50,020 Even though that bores me. 1849 01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:52,400 I also feel really bad and sad about 1850 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:52,780 Todd. 1851 01:00:52,780 --> 01:00:54,900 I'm happy to have met and hung out 1852 01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:56,280 with him in London this year though. 1853 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,060 Did not take a picture with him though. 1854 01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,140 Of course I didn't. 1855 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,040 This might be the last thing our group 1856 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:01,760 needed right now. 1857 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,620 Surprise death of a leadership position. 1858 01:01:03,780 --> 01:01:05,540 We cannot let this project keep fading. 1859 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:06,040 Let's go. 1860 01:01:06,820 --> 01:01:07,780 Yeah, absolutely. 1861 01:01:08,980 --> 01:01:10,860 Uh, let's see. 1862 01:01:11,180 --> 01:01:13,540 Uh, 5,000 sets from Odyssey Westro. 1863 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,280 Sounds like a defragmenting is an order. 1864 01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:18,420 Uh huh. 1865 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,700 When it comes to running relays, you guys 1866 01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:25,640 can probably run your own filter relay because 1867 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,160 if you took a look at a relay 1868 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,200 called filter dot Nostra dot wine, it has 1869 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,440 a way of aggregating multiple relays and giving 1870 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:32,980 you a fee. 1871 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,280 This is designed to reduce spam on the 1872 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,300 Nostra network and also battery life because it's, 1873 01:01:38,300 --> 01:01:42,960 yeah, because it's there less, I think here. 1874 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,280 Uh, so if each podcast app has its 1875 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,640 own relay to handle its own community and 1876 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,280 podcast index can just take in those feeds 1877 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,140 are submitted and then aggregate them together in 1878 01:01:52,140 --> 01:01:54,760 a single global feed, then that way that 1879 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,120 gives you a central information point. 1880 01:01:56,180 --> 01:01:57,840 But if you guys go down, each podcaster 1881 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,260 has their own relay and they can handle 1882 01:02:00,260 --> 01:02:00,940 their own loads. 1883 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,540 Just my two cents to love you guys. 1884 01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:06,580 And, uh, and I'll bet you do go 1885 01:02:06,580 --> 01:02:08,920 podcast, go podcast, go, go podcasting. 1886 01:02:08,940 --> 01:02:09,320 Thank you. 1887 01:02:09,460 --> 01:02:09,860 Thanks. 1888 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,540 Appreciate that comment. 1889 01:02:12,260 --> 01:02:15,000 Um, Oh, Villa, uh, 21,000 sats. 1890 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:15,320 Whoa. 1891 01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:16,060 Thank you. 1892 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:17,680 Uh, thank you. 1893 01:02:18,340 --> 01:02:19,220 Through fountain. 1894 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,320 He says, uh, just emptying my sets. 1895 01:02:21,380 --> 01:02:24,200 I mean, sats, I mean, sacks and greetings 1896 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:24,860 from Finland. 1897 01:02:25,260 --> 01:02:26,160 Hey, go podcast. 1898 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:26,620 All right. 1899 01:02:26,660 --> 01:02:27,920 Go podcasting in Finland. 1900 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:29,080 Tone record. 1901 01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:29,760 Hey, tone record. 1902 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:31,360 4444. 1903 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,420 Uh, through fountains has been out of the 1904 01:02:33,420 --> 01:02:34,300 loop playing catch up. 1905 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,540 Thanks for your ongoing efforts. 1906 01:02:35,660 --> 01:02:37,360 Now we got, this is like a return 1907 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,820 to booster Graham central this week. 1908 01:02:38,820 --> 01:02:39,760 I love it. 1909 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,080 And, uh, and there we get the, uh, 1910 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,240 the delimiter commissioner. 1911 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,220 Ah, he's here. 1912 01:02:44,780 --> 01:02:47,780 12, eight 25 through, uh, through fountain. 1913 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:53,680 He says, howdy, Jesus followers, Adam and Dave. 1914 01:02:53,740 --> 01:02:54,120 Yes. 1915 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,200 Since John Spurlock helped me in the area 1916 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,980 of YouTube content creation, I'd like to recommend 1917 01:02:58,980 --> 01:03:02,300 his SAS OP three.dev quote. 1918 01:03:02,380 --> 01:03:04,800 The open podcast prefix project. 1919 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,240 OP three is a free podcast prefix analytics 1920 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,900 service committed to privacy podcasters or podcast. 1921 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,100 Hoping companies can prepend HTTPS colon slash slash 1922 01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:19,380 OP three.dev slash E slash two podcast 1923 01:03:19,380 --> 01:03:23,000 episodes, URLs in their feed to participate and 1924 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,860 start measuring downloads into quote, yo, CSB, the 1925 01:03:26,860 --> 01:03:30,280 maker of www.training.toys. Yes. 1926 01:03:30,420 --> 01:03:32,020 And, and I, Oh, sorry. 1927 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,360 And, uh, I was corrected. 1928 01:03:34,540 --> 01:03:36,460 It's not just a bunch of Bitcoin charts. 1929 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:42,420 Go look at, uh, www.what was it 1930 01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:42,680 again? 1931 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,680 Trading.toys. Trading.toys. Trading.toys. Toys. 1932 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:49,100 Yeah. 1933 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,080 Trading.toys. Yeah. 1934 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:52,700 It is, it is much more. 1935 01:03:53,140 --> 01:03:54,320 So it's true. 1936 01:03:54,380 --> 01:03:54,820 CSB. 1937 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:55,680 Sorry about that. 1938 01:03:56,180 --> 01:03:57,480 I've got it right here on my screen. 1939 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,960 Trading.toys slash LB is the live Bitcoin, 1940 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,740 but it also has Satoshi to USD. 1941 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:04,360 Yeah. 1942 01:04:04,460 --> 01:04:05,340 It's got all kinds of stuff. 1943 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:05,900 Converter. 1944 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:06,180 Yep. 1945 01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:07,380 Uh, and we got some monthlies. 1946 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,440 We got, uh, whew, golly, that screen is 1947 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,320 blowing me out here. 1948 01:04:10,780 --> 01:04:11,960 Get off, get off of that. 1949 01:04:12,380 --> 01:04:14,140 Um, Oh, we got Derek J. 1950 01:04:14,180 --> 01:04:15,220 Viscar, $21. 1951 01:04:15,940 --> 01:04:18,820 Paul Saltzman, $22.22. Thank you, Paul. 1952 01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:20,700 Damon Cassajack, $15. 1953 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:22,820 Jeremy Gerds, $5. 1954 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,120 And here, we need to have a discussion 1955 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,220 about this, Adam. 1956 01:04:28,060 --> 01:04:30,420 We got a donation from New Media Productions, 1957 01:04:30,540 --> 01:04:31,600 which was Todd's PayPal. 1958 01:04:32,980 --> 01:04:37,240 Do you want to contact Rob and see 1959 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,080 what to do with this? 1960 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:38,380 Yeah. 1961 01:04:38,540 --> 01:04:38,740 Yeah. 1962 01:04:38,740 --> 01:04:39,560 We can't take that. 1963 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:40,680 Cause we can send that. 1964 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,140 We'll just send that back. 1965 01:04:42,180 --> 01:04:45,440 That by the way, is a something interesting 1966 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:45,960 thought. 1967 01:04:47,500 --> 01:04:49,720 Just all the subscriptions and stuff that just 1968 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,040 continue after you're gone. 1969 01:04:52,220 --> 01:04:53,880 It's, it's kind of weird in it. 1970 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,060 That's very weird. 1971 01:04:55,220 --> 01:04:57,460 Although it is kind of Todd saying, hi 1972 01:04:57,460 --> 01:04:59,480 guys, I'm watching you. 1973 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,020 I got my eye on you. 1974 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:01,740 That's how I did. 1975 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:02,680 It kind of feels like that. 1976 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,520 Like Todd, I saw it come in this 1977 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,740 morning and I had, yeah, it's a weird 1978 01:05:06,740 --> 01:05:09,040 feeling of strange experience. 1979 01:05:09,180 --> 01:05:09,340 Yeah. 1980 01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:10,580 Story of a guy. 1981 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,420 This is, this is internet lore and he 1982 01:05:14,420 --> 01:05:18,000 passed away and, but he was logged into 1983 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,620 a server and everyone just kept him logged 1984 01:05:20,620 --> 01:05:22,580 in, never rebooted the server. 1985 01:05:22,780 --> 01:05:24,300 And you could look at his uptime. 1986 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:25,760 It was like four years. 1987 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:27,320 Oh really? 1988 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:27,800 Yeah. 1989 01:05:27,980 --> 01:05:29,080 That's internet lore. 1990 01:05:29,340 --> 01:05:29,740 Yeah. 1991 01:05:29,780 --> 01:05:31,320 Back from the day of Emacs. 1992 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,340 It doesn't even matter if it's true. 1993 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:33,880 It's just good. 1994 01:05:33,940 --> 01:05:34,800 It just sounds good. 1995 01:05:35,340 --> 01:05:35,540 Yeah. 1996 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:35,860 Yeah. 1997 01:05:36,540 --> 01:05:39,320 Do you, do you have Rob's contact that 1998 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,260 you can ping him about this? 1999 01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:40,640 I do. 2000 01:05:40,740 --> 01:05:40,960 I will. 2001 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:41,320 All right. 2002 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,540 Gene Liverman, $5. 2003 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:45,220 Thank you, Gene. 2004 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,320 Michael Hall, $5 and 50 cents. 2005 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:48,980 And Timothy Voice, $10. 2006 01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:52,320 Thank you all so much for supporting Podcasting 2007 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,800 2.0. The index, of course, podcasting, podcastindex 2008 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:57,340 .org. 2009 01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,940 Everything goes to keep the machines running. 2010 01:06:00,140 --> 01:06:02,280 And of course, if you need liquidity for 2011 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,760 your, for your key send, I'm happy, happy 2012 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:06,640 to provide it to you. 2013 01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:08,540 Just hit me up and we'll take care 2014 01:06:08,540 --> 01:06:08,800 of that. 2015 01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:10,820 Go to podcastindex.org, down at the bottom, 2016 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,660 big red button, a donate button, hit that 2017 01:06:13,660 --> 01:06:16,900 and go to the PayPal for our fiat 2018 01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:17,660 fund coupons. 2019 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,620 And that will have to conclude it for 2020 01:06:20,620 --> 01:06:20,960 today. 2021 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,660 Well, the, yeah, I guess, I guess. 2022 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,020 But now I'm going to wait. 2023 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,840 I'm going to wait before publishing so you 2024 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,380 can tell me how to, how to grab, 2025 01:06:30,460 --> 01:06:31,820 you're going to push it through your pipeline 2026 01:06:31,820 --> 01:06:33,100 and then I'll hook it in. 2027 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,180 Yeah, I'm going to, yeah, I'm going to 2028 01:06:36,180 --> 01:06:37,040 see what this does. 2029 01:06:37,140 --> 01:06:38,460 I'm going to hit the script. 2030 01:06:38,540 --> 01:06:38,940 Let me go ahead. 2031 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:40,700 Let me go ahead and do this now. 2032 01:06:40,820 --> 01:06:43,200 I'm going to figure out if this is 2033 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:43,860 going to break. 2034 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,000 Syntax error. 2035 01:06:46,700 --> 01:06:48,680 I wrote this completely blind. 2036 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,120 It's never, I've never, I have not run 2037 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:51,740 it before. 2038 01:06:53,140 --> 01:06:53,600 Okay. 2039 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:54,700 I love that. 2040 01:06:54,940 --> 01:06:55,780 That's so good. 2041 01:06:57,340 --> 01:06:58,840 It's a PHP script. 2042 01:06:59,820 --> 01:07:00,280 Okay. 2043 01:07:00,340 --> 01:07:02,660 PHP, HLS upload. 2044 01:07:02,740 --> 01:07:04,420 Let's hit, wait, I got to stop the 2045 01:07:04,420 --> 01:07:04,920 stream though. 2046 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:05,300 Okay. 2047 01:07:05,420 --> 01:07:06,280 Stopping the stream. 2048 01:07:07,020 --> 01:07:08,400 Stopping, stopping stream. 2049 01:07:09,140 --> 01:07:10,280 Stream stopped. 2050 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:10,920 All right. 2051 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:11,880 HLS upload. 2052 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,200 Syntax error. 2053 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:15,320 Really? 2054 01:07:16,060 --> 01:07:16,500 Yes. 2055 01:07:17,380 --> 01:07:18,220 Syntax error. 2056 01:07:18,340 --> 01:07:21,500 Unexpected open curly brace on line three. 2057 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,560 Oh, it's at the top. 2058 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:24,240 Easy to find. 2059 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:25,620 Yeah, it's right. 2060 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:26,240 Yeah. 2061 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:26,680 Really? 2062 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,900 This is the problem with Pico. 2063 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,880 You got to try something or fail. 2064 01:07:34,140 --> 01:07:34,540 HLS. 2065 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:35,480 Let's see. 2066 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,020 Let me open it up real quick. 2067 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,080 On line three. 2068 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,460 Oh, I see what I did. 2069 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:44,040 Yeah. 2070 01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:44,700 Yep. 2071 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:44,980 Yep. 2072 01:07:44,980 --> 01:07:45,520 That'd do it. 2073 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:46,640 That would do it every time. 2074 01:07:47,380 --> 01:07:47,500 Yeah. 2075 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,560 It's not, it's not, this is the, this 2076 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,220 is the compiler like lying to you. 2077 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,640 It's not a curly brace problem. 2078 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,520 It's a close parentheses problem. 2079 01:07:57,140 --> 01:07:58,420 My favorite is parse error. 2080 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,000 Oh, okay. 2081 01:08:01,020 --> 01:08:01,440 It's working. 2082 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:02,080 Oh, okay. 2083 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:03,020 All right. 2084 01:08:03,060 --> 01:08:03,660 We're vibing. 2085 01:08:03,820 --> 01:08:04,300 All right. 2086 01:08:05,380 --> 01:08:05,640 Yeah. 2087 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:06,900 So I'll, I'll, okay. 2088 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,780 I'll upload this and then I'll send you 2089 01:08:08,780 --> 01:08:11,540 a, I'll send you, I'll signal you the 2090 01:08:11,540 --> 01:08:13,240 link to the M3U8 file. 2091 01:08:13,580 --> 01:08:13,960 Yeah. 2092 01:08:13,980 --> 01:08:15,819 And then tell me what parameters I need 2093 01:08:15,819 --> 01:08:16,660 to put in there. 2094 01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:19,120 I need to put the video thing in 2095 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:19,600 there as well. 2096 01:08:19,740 --> 01:08:20,180 I guess so. 2097 01:08:20,420 --> 01:08:20,520 Huh? 2098 01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:21,319 Yeah. 2099 01:08:21,380 --> 01:08:24,200 It should be literally identical to the one 2100 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,100 that's in the episode tag, just with a 2101 01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:26,840 different URL. 2102 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:27,240 Okay. 2103 01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:28,520 It's in the live item tag. 2104 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:29,040 Okay. 2105 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:30,859 We'll see how that goes. 2106 01:08:31,220 --> 01:08:33,000 This is this, this will be interesting. 2107 01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:37,500 No. 2108 01:08:38,620 --> 01:08:39,040 You living? 2109 01:08:39,220 --> 01:08:39,320 Okay. 2110 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:40,479 I'm choking. 2111 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:40,939 All right. 2112 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:41,380 Boardroom. 2113 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:42,160 Thank you very much. 2114 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,399 Brother Dave, have yourself a great weekend and 2115 01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:46,240 fingers crossed for this test. 2116 01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:48,160 This has been without a doubt, one of 2117 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,260 the most interesting board meetings of podcasting 2 2118 01:08:51,260 --> 01:08:53,279 .0. We'll be back next week and it 2119 01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:54,060 all will work. 2120 01:08:54,140 --> 01:08:54,800 I promise. 2121 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,800 You have been listening to podcasting 2.0, 2122 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,680 visit podcastindex.org for more information.