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Podcasting 2.0 for January 24, 2025, episode

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208, The Booby Trap.

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Hello, everybody, once again.

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Thank God it's Friday.

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You know why?

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Because the weekend's here.

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No, because it's time for the official board

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meeting of Podcasting 2.0. This is where

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everything goes down.

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You want to know why podcasting is great,

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why it was already good, and why it

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will be even better?

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It's all happening here.

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We are the only boardroom that plays music

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instead of taking a bathroom break.

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I am Adam Curry, here in the heart

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of the Texas Hill Country and in Alabama,

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the man who decompresses your files on the

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fly.

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Say hello to my friend on the other

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end, the one, the only, Mr. Dave Jones.

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And two.

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And what?

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And two.

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And two.

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I just tooted.

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Oh, you tooted.

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Oh, you tooted.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I mean, right under the wire.

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Of course.

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You are the pod sage.

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You have all those capabilities.

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You are, in fact, a superman.

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You literally intro'd me as I was hitting

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the toot button.

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So, we're good.

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Ah, good.

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I, um, it's been a crazy day today.

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As we speak, for the first time ever,

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I have a brisket on the smoker.

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Oh, you got a smoker?

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Well, I've had the Pit Boss.

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I got it for my birthday.

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Oh, I've got a Pit Boss as well.

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Oh, you do?

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Oh, you do?

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Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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The Pit Boss is indeed quite boss.

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It's very boss.

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But I've never done, I've never smoked anything.

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I've done, you know, I've done steaks and,

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you know, burgers and stuff like.

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Did you have the sear plate?

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I don't, no, I want it.

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That's the one thing I don't have.

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And it's on my smoker lust list.

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It's one of the things that I want.

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Can you retrofit that on your Pit Boss?

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Yeah, I think so.

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Yeah, I think so.

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It's just the plate.

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Just change the plates out.

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Just the cast iron plate, right?

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So, I started this morning, warmed it up

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to 225 at a quarter to nine.

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And nine, we have a 10 pound brisket.

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Went right on.

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I'm worried about that.

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I'm like, oh my gosh.

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Was that like a 12 hour smoke, roughly?

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It should be about 10, 11.

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And well, they said these would be three

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to five hours to get it up to

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160 internal temperature.

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So, got the probe.

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Got the probe in there.

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Got the probe.

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Yeah, yeah.

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This is where I need the Bluetooth probe

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accessory, which I don't have.

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The Wi-Fi, yeah, Wi-Fi accessible.

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Yeah, the Wi-Fi accessory.

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Yeah, so I don't have that.

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So, I had to go out.

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And they said between three to five hours

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to get it up to 160.

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So, right at noon, it was at 160.

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So, then I had to wrap it in

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butcher paper, which I'd never even, I didn't

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even know what that was.

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Butcher paper.

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Yes, the barbecue, the heavy orange.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Rust colored.

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Yes, that's it.

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That's it.

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So, I got that, wrapped it all up.

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And then it has to go in for

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another, they say two to three hours to

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get to 190.

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So, I turned it down to 200.

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So, that during the board meeting, I wouldn't

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have to go check my meat.

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Well, you've got, you've got the, you've got,

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oh wait, Sam says the, did you?

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Oh, no, no, I'm a bad boy.

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I'm sorry.

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I tweeted and tweeted.

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I know.

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I'm sucking.

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Well, I'm, what can I tell you?

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I'm sorry.

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Hold on a second.

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What did I do wrong here?

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Let's see.

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I'm going to reply to Sam and say

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pod ping in progress.

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Hold on a second.

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Pod ping in progress.

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I did set it all up, but yes,

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you're right.

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I was so excited.

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I'm so excited.

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I'm so excited.

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And when I get excited, I forget important

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things.

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You don't have to check your, but you

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don't have to check your meat if you

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have the, if you, if you're probing it.

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Well, but I have to, I have to

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check the temperature.

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This is what I'm saying.

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If I had the wifi thing, I could

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sit here and know if it was okay.

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And then, you know, I could be, oh,

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but now it's like I turned it.

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So, it can't get hotter than 200 obviously.

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So hopefully it'll be, I've, I think I've

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timed it.

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So when, right, when we're done with the

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board meeting, it should be about one 90.

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Uh, so if you see that, I don't

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have the wifi thing.

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I have to go handle my mate in

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order to probe it.

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But you know, if you can, that's, that's

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kind of a, no, the probe is in,

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I have a built in a probe thermometer.

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See, I, oh, you're using the one that's

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built into the, uh, you're not using the,

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you're not using the, the, what do they

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call it?

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The handheld probe?

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No, I don't know.

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No, no, no.

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See, I use, I used, I do use

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that one sometimes, but I.

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I'm not a fan of it.

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Only if you have a really thick cut.

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Cause otherwise, you know, if it's too close

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to the plate, it'll be like, it's 500

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degrees.

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Like, no, I don't think so.

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I usually wait until the meat is hot

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to put the probe in.

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Cause if you get it, when it's cold,

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it's just too hard to probe.

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You know, we are probers.

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You got to get, cause it's when you,

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if you wait until it's hot, then it's

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kind of wet and juicy and you can

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just stick to the probe goes in so

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easy.

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That's what she said.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry, Jesus.

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Forgive me.

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Forgive me.

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This is the brisket that I've done one

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brisket and, and it turned out really good.

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You know, what is to no lie.

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The best cut of meat on the smoker

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though, is the plate ribs, the dino ribs.

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Ooh.

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It's basically a brisket with ribs, with ribs

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in it.

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And if you cook it just like a

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brisket, the ribs just, I mean, you can

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just pull them out with your hand.

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They just fall out and you've got this,

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it's basically the fatty part of the brisket,

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but all the way through, like, it's just

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like, it is so good.

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How long does that take?

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How long does that take to do?

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Oh, it's not, not nearly as long as

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a brisket.

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Cause I think the bone helps cook it

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faster.

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Cause it's like, I want to say like

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six hours, seven hours.

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This is going to wind up being eight

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or nine hours.

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Anyway, we'll, we'll see how it turns out.

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You know, there was a time in early

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no agenda days when, I don't know if

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you remember this, I don't know how long

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you were listening, but Dvorak would literally stop

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the show because he had to go outside

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to baste his meat.

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I don't remember him ever doing that.

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No, it was, it was much hilarity ensued

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from Dvorak basting his meat.

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Well, the, the, um, the best, so the

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pit boss, I almost spent like the pit

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boss is the best bang for the buck

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because there's many more expensive smokers like the,

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the one with the horns, the rec tech

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and all that.

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There's, there's much more expensive smokers, but the,

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the pit boss is, has got a feature

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that the other ones don't have, which you

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can, it's got the lever thing where you

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can expose the flame.

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That's the sear plate.

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You can reverse.

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Oh, that's what you mean by sear plate.

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What did you think of that?

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I thought you meant the sear plate.

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That's like a big cast iron griddle looking.

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Oh no, no.

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I think they actually call it the sear

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plate.

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You open it up and then the flames

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right underneath it.

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I've got that.

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That's cool.

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Reverse.

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You can reverse sear steaks with it.

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Oh yeah.

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That is that.

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Do you do the reverse?

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Oh yeah.

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Low and slow and then yeah.

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And then nuke it.

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Oh yeah, baby.

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Hey, we're, it's a meat show.

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Meat talk here on the board.

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You know what?

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I, since we're, we're, wait, we're already out

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of control.

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Do you mind if I break format completely?

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Cause I'm excited.

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It's already broken.

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There is no format.

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I am so excited.

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And please get your, your streaming podcast apps

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ready.

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Curio caster, you can do it on the

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split kit.

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You can do it in fountain.

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If you got pod verse, get it ready

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because we have a conversion taking place.

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We have converted Henry invisible.

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Now, Henry invisible.

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Did you see Henry invisible on booster, booster

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Graham ball live from Antones?

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No, I did not.

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This guy is a one man band and

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he's about five feet four tall.

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He has a bucket hat, a furry bucket

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hat on.

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Oh, that guy.

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Oh yeah.

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That guy.

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And, and he's just an amazing guy.

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And I remember when, cause he had, he

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didn't have any songs value for value, but

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we invited him anyway.

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And he got a really good experience because

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people were just boosting and, and zapping and,

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you know, he got, I don't know, six,

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$700, you know, for his set, which is

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much more than he'd make.

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You know, if you make anything at all

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at a set these days, you might get

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a little bit, but, uh, and he, I

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remember he said, Adam, this is so, and

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his dad was his roadie, you know, and

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his dad is really cool.

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And they're, and they're big believers.

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And, you know, so we were just having

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a good old time.

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He's like, you know, this really makes a

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difference.

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What you guys are doing is so cool.

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I'm so excited.

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And so now he has not one, but

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two songs that has released value for value.

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It's short.

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It's Take away the visual and just listen

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to what he's doing.

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He plays all the instruments himself.

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He's he has Prince like vibes and I

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just want to play it right off.

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I'm so excited.

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Henry invisible.

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Do it good on podcasting.

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Because I sing you this message.

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Here we are.

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So things in the world all that way.

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Why there's so much magic in this world

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And you can tell that every day, in

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many ways There's you and me, and we

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can be Everything we want to be Well,

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how do we do it?

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Got to do what you can, cause you

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should Do it good Got to do what

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you can, cause you should Do it good

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Got to do what you can, cause you

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should Do it good Got to do what

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you can, cause you should Got to do

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what you can, cause you should So

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I'm walking the dog last night, and I'm

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listening to This Week in Bitcoin, and Chris

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plays this at the end of the show,

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and I'm just dancing down the driveway.

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I'm like, I love this!

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This is my jam right there.

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I love that kind of music.

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He's like the funk version of the guy

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that I never can remember his name who

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does the punk set with just him and

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his guitar and a bass drum and a

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snare drum that are both foot-activated.

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Do you know the guy I'm talking about?

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Oh, yeah.

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He performed in Nashville.

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That guy, you mean?

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I can't ever remember his name.

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It's something that's hard for me.

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Rock and roll.

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Yeah, rock and roll, break heart.

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Yeah, there you go.

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Rock and roll, break heart.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It was a great show.

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And I just heard this song.

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I'm like, I like this.

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It's just...

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I'm a funky kind of guy.

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That's good.

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I'm a funky kind of guy.

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I'm just glad you played a song on

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the show again.

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I know.

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It's been like a month.

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Well, even longer, maybe.

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But, you know, ever since we went to

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this shortened time, which means we have to

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kind of hustle.

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But this is only three minutes.

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I'm like, oh, we can spare three minutes,

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three minutes.

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And thanks for not boosting everybody.

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Booshbags.

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Nobody boosted.

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Nobody boosted.

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Boost that man.

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Go back, rewind.

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Boost that man.

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It's good.

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They're invisible boosts.

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They're invisible boosts.

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So a couple things.

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We need to talk about Podping D.

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Need to talk about that because it's been

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on the list for as long as we

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haven't played songs.

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But I would like to reiterate our call

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out once again, and I have another one,

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for Apple and any other podcast app.

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We have many of them already that recognize

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the the lit tag Holy moly that you

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have no idea what you're missing out on

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Apple has such an opportunity.

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It's become even more clear this week Every

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single radio and young be talking at NRB

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every single radio station is talking about their

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stream They want to turn off these expensive

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transmitters They're converting their people and you can

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Apple you can be the directory for all

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radio stations in your podcast app It's such

410
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an obvious thing to do and I'm sure

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they're their player already handles it, right?

412
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It should I mean, it's the audio engine

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this underlying it does.

414
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Yeah, there's no difference there It just seems

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like it's a no-brainer.

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Thank you.

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Sam Sethi 35 18 This came up in

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a talk in some of the talks that

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we've had On the Godcaster stuff is Whether

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HLS audio Is how supported HLS?

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Oh, yeah, we actually ran into an HLS

422
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server in the wild and threw us for

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a loop Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, it's like an m3.

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It's like with here's our audio stream.

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It's like an m3 u8 Wait, what a

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playlist What is this because like 99%

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of the wild is Icecast or whatever shoutcast

429
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and then you see one of those and

430
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I was like, oh, I don't know I

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don't know how we're gonna support that.

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I mean so I'm assuming that My current

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understanding is at least in the browser.

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So this is video for like browser based

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podcast apps that HLS audio Meaning just a

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playlist of audio chunks It's gonna be I

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think that's supported in Safari by the app

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by the native audio tag Because some people

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like the audio tag in the video tag

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in HTML are My understanding is under the

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covers in the HTML world itself in the

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browser That the audio tag and the video

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tag are basically the same thing I Think

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they're identical under the hood except the video

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tag Excuse me, the audio tag just doesn't

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show the video portion But I think there's

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so if one supports something than the other

448
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one should as well So I think you

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I think the audio tag is the audio

450
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HLS is supported on Apple on Safari webkit

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browsers And my understanding is it may be

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supported on Android devices as well.

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I think it's the desktop.

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That's the hitch.

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Oh Really?

456
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That's interesting Why would that be a problem?

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Why would that be a problem?

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They just don't have it in there You

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know, I don't I don't really I don't

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know what an odd sure odd company sometimes

461
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but you know, but but It hasn't audio

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and have an audio and video codecs always

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been this way they've always been mired in

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like all kinds of Crap DRM all kinds

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of nonsense.

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Yeah, and on my browser is always saying

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well in order to view this video you

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have to allow this DRM stuff to come

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into your I like no, I won't just

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won't watch it.

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I'm good No, thank you.

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PP says curio caster supports it.

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I think it's because he's using I think

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it's video JS maybe Stephen B can correct

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me if I'm wrong.

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I think it's video.

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There's a there's plenty of plugins.

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It'll it'll help you do it Like yeah,

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like video JS, but I just mean like

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natively So I don't Apple probably has to

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own and have developed whatever they put in

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there.

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That's probably one of their main Requirements.

484
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Oh if we didn't develop it, we can't

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use it.

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Oh Stephen says HLS dot JS most of

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those plugins operate by those JavaScript plugins and

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the browser page Operate just by hooking the

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tat hooking the video or audio tag and

490
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then just Like, you know take taking over

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the decoding of of the thing and then

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provide, you know, providing the audio back to

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it So I don't you know, I don't

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I'm I agree I mean pocket like as

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far as live tag goes pocket casts.

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You're an obvious one.

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Yep They should be supporting this I mean

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podcast addict out-of-the-box because they

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have they've always had radio stuff in there

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Their player not only will do it all

501
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it also reads the metadata in the stream,

502
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which is even more beautiful So it pulls

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up an image and changes when there's a

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new if it's if it's a music track

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it changes with all the metadata This is

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this episode if we have to if we

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had to type title it, okay I have

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my pen It would be Dave cries for

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help Done all right Dave cries on blue

510
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cry for help And because because I have

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many cries for help, oh baby what's going

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on talk to me The doctor is in

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Can you show me on the doll where

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the HLS hurt you Yeah, so one of

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the cries for help would be Would be

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this Would be the live I see where

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to us where I start.

518
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Where do you start pot?

519
00:19:51,570 --> 00:19:52,990
Okay, so pot you brought up pod ping

520
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D Pod ping in general pot is I'm

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talking about pod ping cloud.

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Yeah I Need some help with that with

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it pod so Alex and Archie have both

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offered recently and in the past to Help

525
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me with you know just some sysadmin DevOps

526
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type stuff and and I Appreciate both of

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them doing that I'm gonna have to take

528
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them up on it Because one of the

529
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one of the issues so live depends on

530
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pod ping in to some extent right You

531
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can do it without pod ping So if

532
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you have there's a start time in the

533
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live tag and an end time in the

534
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live tag But you could you know, if

535
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you're an app and you don't want any

536
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external dependencies you could just say okay start

537
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time is this Let's okay.

538
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This is a good exercise.

539
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Let's do let's do this.

540
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Let's say in Let's let's dream up an

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app.

542
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This is Adams podcast app.

543
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I like it already.

544
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It's a winner and You are going you

545
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want to support live?

546
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items But you don't want any third-party

547
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dependencies because you're gonna all you're gonna run

548
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on device purely You're not gonna you're not

549
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gonna try to check pod ping.

550
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You're not gonna do anything.

551
00:21:32,090 --> 00:21:34,210
You just want to exist purely on device,

552
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:34,770
okay?

553
00:21:35,710 --> 00:21:37,970
You're gonna read the RSS feeds and you're

554
00:21:37,970 --> 00:21:39,630
gonna see that there's a live item in

555
00:21:39,630 --> 00:21:44,710
this feed Um Since you have no pod

556
00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:49,760
ping What you do is so that's out.

557
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,900
So you're gonna have to depend on the

558
00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:54,800
feed refreshing and showing is it equals live?

559
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,540
Well, yeah.

560
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,740
Well the start the start time Okay here

561
00:21:59,740 --> 00:22:00,720
you see this is what I'm trying to

562
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,140
get to is What heuristics do you construct

563
00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:06,140
in order to make sure that you a?

564
00:22:06,860 --> 00:22:10,860
tune in on time and B don't miss

565
00:22:10,860 --> 00:22:14,560
any of it Well, I personally tend to

566
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,640
stay away from any and all heuristics in

567
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,080
my life.

568
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:23,760
I find them very unhelpful Agreed agrees Okay,

569
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,620
well that there's two different things there and

570
00:22:26,620 --> 00:22:28,500
some apps do this quite well where they

571
00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:30,800
say hey, this is coming up live some

572
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,880
will show it to me as Live next

573
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,480
and some won't you it show it to

574
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,620
me at all only when it's actually live.

575
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,620
What are we drinking?

576
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,480
Oh This is a LaCroix limoncello.

577
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,040
Nice limoncello with alcohol.

578
00:22:45,260 --> 00:22:45,740
Nice.

579
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,920
No, this is no, this is a virgin

580
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:57,000
yeah, a Mocktail It's a so if you

581
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,300
if you took that idea and said, okay,

582
00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:03,640
I'm going to Take a cue that this

583
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,540
thing is gonna start At this particular time

584
00:23:07,540 --> 00:23:10,080
that's defined in the live item start time

585
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,000
attribute You could say okay.

586
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,880
Well Let's go ahead and notify the user

587
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,380
like what you said, maybe five minutes before

588
00:23:21,380 --> 00:23:26,820
the start time is listed and then But

589
00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:28,520
at any time we can go ahead and

590
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,100
just like put something in the interfacing this

591
00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:37,700
is this is an upcoming Livestream You can

592
00:23:38,740 --> 00:23:40,860
Like a place almost like a placeholder like

593
00:23:40,860 --> 00:23:41,720
coming soon.

594
00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:44,600
Mm-hmm, and then you could tap on

595
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,740
it To go ahead and attempt to tune

596
00:23:47,740 --> 00:23:49,540
in to the live stream ahead of time

597
00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:52,000
Just you know because a lot of times

598
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,540
there's pre-show and Like like with this,

599
00:23:55,740 --> 00:23:57,120
you know with our with our thing We

600
00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:00,180
don't exactly the start time maybe 1230, but

601
00:24:00,180 --> 00:24:02,320
we some we you know You get this

602
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,840
ball rolling, you know, 15 20 minutes ahead

603
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,720
of time So you could you really there

604
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,420
could be like coming up maybe half an

605
00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:12,620
hour before there's like this this placeholder item

606
00:24:12,620 --> 00:24:16,220
Episode and you could tap in early Yeah,

607
00:24:16,260 --> 00:24:18,980
and then it doesn't really even though there's

608
00:24:18,980 --> 00:24:21,600
an in time defined attribute defined in the

609
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,340
live item You don't necessarily have to Cut

610
00:24:25,340 --> 00:24:26,000
it at that point.

611
00:24:26,060 --> 00:24:29,740
You probably probably shouldn't know You should say

612
00:24:30,420 --> 00:24:33,020
You know, you should just basically do what

613
00:24:33,020 --> 00:24:36,080
we do in the index Which is 24

614
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,260
hours after the start time we consider it

615
00:24:39,260 --> 00:24:42,000
done We consider it over as long as

616
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,700
the end time is some point in the

617
00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:48,060
past right, so then Then you're you're you

618
00:24:48,060 --> 00:24:50,800
basically allow the the listener to just continue

619
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,640
listening as long as they want when does

620
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,680
the crying start?

621
00:24:56,220 --> 00:24:57,520
I already did that.

622
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:58,360
Okay.

623
00:24:58,500 --> 00:24:59,480
I got it out of my system.

624
00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:02,120
I did it on the way home for

625
00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:11,440
lunch So You know, that's

626
00:25:13,010 --> 00:25:17,630
so that's the that's That's one thing that

627
00:25:17,630 --> 00:25:19,750
you could you could do if you're gonna

628
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:22,110
support live items and not depend on pod

629
00:25:22,110 --> 00:25:24,490
ping so that would because and the reason

630
00:25:24,490 --> 00:25:29,230
I'm talking about this is because I feel

631
00:25:29,230 --> 00:25:33,310
like that is going to be a Hindrance

632
00:25:33,310 --> 00:25:36,130
for some people Now we know that pod

633
00:25:36,130 --> 00:25:39,530
ping is dependable and right, you know pretty

634
00:25:39,530 --> 00:25:41,410
much rock-steady Yeah, nothing.

635
00:25:41,630 --> 00:25:45,290
Nothing's absolute absolute belongs to God, but sure,

636
00:25:45,450 --> 00:25:48,090
you know on this earth You know, there's

637
00:25:48,090 --> 00:25:52,350
basically cockroaches Velveeta cheese and pod ping those

638
00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:53,450
things remain.

639
00:25:53,870 --> 00:25:56,990
Yes, that's a Cockroaches specifically, but yes, the

640
00:25:56,990 --> 00:26:01,170
cheese is up there And so but there

641
00:26:01,170 --> 00:26:05,050
are some people like Apple and I'm a

642
00:26:05,050 --> 00:26:07,130
hundred percent sure that they would be this

643
00:26:07,130 --> 00:26:10,910
way like Pod ping, you know what?

644
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:11,130
I mean?

645
00:26:11,210 --> 00:26:13,690
Yeah, but we don't want to depend on

646
00:26:13,690 --> 00:26:19,070
some some rando You know internet messaging bus

647
00:26:19,070 --> 00:26:21,550
right that we don't that we don't control

648
00:26:22,130 --> 00:26:23,970
But that's okay because they could do it

649
00:26:23,970 --> 00:26:24,790
that other way, right?

650
00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:27,590
I mean they they can still support the

651
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:31,950
live item and And get that thing done.

652
00:26:32,510 --> 00:26:37,390
I feel like that's a dependable enough Yeah,

653
00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:40,390
you yeah, I think so I mean I

654
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:43,790
think they should consider pod ping anyway I

655
00:26:43,790 --> 00:26:44,310
do too.

656
00:26:44,510 --> 00:26:45,810
I mean just to say pod ping.

657
00:26:45,930 --> 00:26:48,830
Uh, I mean Think of think of the

658
00:26:48,830 --> 00:26:50,530
the whales and all the other things you're

659
00:26:50,530 --> 00:26:52,690
killing with your global warming with polling all

660
00:26:52,690 --> 00:26:58,190
these feeds and so the pot So the

661
00:26:58,190 --> 00:26:59,790
cry for help on the pod ping front

662
00:26:59,790 --> 00:27:01,750
is I need some I need some dev

663
00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:04,190
ops help on the pod ping cloud stuff

664
00:27:07,650 --> 00:27:10,490
Popping cloud is a sim.

665
00:27:10,810 --> 00:27:13,570
It's such a simple thing to run actually

666
00:27:14,270 --> 00:27:18,130
It's five servers There's three in the United

667
00:27:18,130 --> 00:27:18,590
States.

668
00:27:18,730 --> 00:27:20,330
There's an east of West Central and a

669
00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:29,010
West there's two There's two outside the US

670
00:27:29,010 --> 00:27:30,790
there's one in Australia one in Europe and

671
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:36,350
Then they're all like $5 a month Linode's

672
00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:37,170
right there.

673
00:27:37,270 --> 00:27:41,130
Just there's nothing to them the problem I'm

674
00:27:41,130 --> 00:27:44,090
having is And I've talked about this on

675
00:27:44,090 --> 00:27:46,290
the podcast index dot social is like I

676
00:27:48,550 --> 00:27:51,750
Don't I need somebody to get in there

677
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:54,450
and just set this Set this thing up

678
00:27:54,450 --> 00:27:56,450
to where the docker logs don't keep eating

679
00:27:56,450 --> 00:28:01,550
up all the disk space I've tried to

680
00:28:01,550 --> 00:28:03,850
fix this and I don't know what I'm

681
00:28:03,850 --> 00:28:04,450
doing wrong.

682
00:28:04,810 --> 00:28:07,610
I must just be missing something I've followed

683
00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:11,010
the documentation of the docker documentation It does

684
00:28:11,010 --> 00:28:17,810
their their log Trunk their log rotation algorithm.

685
00:28:18,190 --> 00:28:20,110
That's supposed to keep the logs no bigger

686
00:28:20,110 --> 00:28:21,110
than a certain size.

687
00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:23,810
It just doesn't work For and I don't

688
00:28:23,810 --> 00:28:27,130
know what I'm doing wrong so like I

689
00:28:27,850 --> 00:28:31,170
You know Alex offered to help or and

690
00:28:31,170 --> 00:28:32,930
I'm you know I may ping him and

691
00:28:32,930 --> 00:28:34,930
say you know and give him credentials to

692
00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:36,130
get in and just see what I'm doing

693
00:28:36,130 --> 00:28:38,750
wrong and fix it Yeah, if he can't,

694
00:28:38,790 --> 00:28:40,010
you know, if it's not too much trouble

695
00:28:40,010 --> 00:28:44,370
on his part But in order for pod

696
00:28:44,370 --> 00:28:49,250
ping You know pot popping has to for

697
00:28:49,250 --> 00:28:52,770
the best live experience depends on pod ping

698
00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:55,210
and So, you know you can do it

699
00:28:55,210 --> 00:28:57,070
another way We just outlined how you can

700
00:28:57,070 --> 00:28:59,210
but the best the best experience to get

701
00:28:59,210 --> 00:29:03,270
the most immediate, you know ping is To

702
00:29:03,270 --> 00:29:05,030
use pod ping and so that that that

703
00:29:05,030 --> 00:29:09,250
system has to remain Like rock steady and

704
00:29:09,250 --> 00:29:09,870
to do that.

705
00:29:10,030 --> 00:29:11,610
I'm just sort of like pulling my hair

706
00:29:11,610 --> 00:29:13,890
out with this docker thing That was a

707
00:29:13,890 --> 00:29:22,770
long way to go Well Bottom line.

708
00:29:22,910 --> 00:29:25,130
I think it's it's a great feature.

709
00:29:25,150 --> 00:29:29,410
I'm seeing Just a whole bunch of radio

710
00:29:29,410 --> 00:29:34,390
stations who have podcasts Who will love having

711
00:29:34,390 --> 00:29:38,750
a lit tag in their podcast feed We

712
00:29:38,750 --> 00:29:41,830
already know they do Because we have about

713
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:44,890
45 of them who do it without them

714
00:29:44,890 --> 00:29:46,830
really understanding it, but we do it for

715
00:29:46,830 --> 00:29:50,590
them and Then having their podcasts and everybody

716
00:29:50,590 --> 00:29:52,910
can use their favorite podcast app They're you

717
00:29:52,910 --> 00:29:54,230
know, they're also trying to set up their

718
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:57,130
own podcast or their own apps And they

719
00:29:57,130 --> 00:29:59,090
really don't have a lot of podcast capability

720
00:29:59,090 --> 00:30:02,750
in there But the lit tag really opens

721
00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:06,210
up new capabilities and I Just think it'd

722
00:30:06,210 --> 00:30:07,430
be great to have Apple on board and

723
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:09,210
there's another if we can move to a

724
00:30:09,210 --> 00:30:14,830
new topic wait The I have more cross

725
00:30:14,830 --> 00:30:15,250
for help.

726
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:17,570
Okay, I can know maybe I can maybe

727
00:30:17,570 --> 00:30:19,770
I can get it Let me throw in

728
00:30:19,770 --> 00:30:24,010
my other Live stream related cry for help.

729
00:30:24,050 --> 00:30:28,550
Okay is what you mentioned earlier the live

730
00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:33,730
stream metadata Yes we need you know, I

731
00:30:34,430 --> 00:30:40,340
need a way to To get the metadata

732
00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:49,200
from shoutcast streams In the browser and And

733
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,220
I cannot I Can't figure out how to

734
00:30:52,220 --> 00:30:55,500
do this The documentation is sort of like

735
00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:59,220
all over the place I've tried every approach

736
00:30:59,220 --> 00:31:02,260
I can find mentioned anywhere and none of

737
00:31:02,260 --> 00:31:04,460
them seem to work Isn't there isn't a

738
00:31:04,460 --> 00:31:06,320
this is a separate player that does this

739
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,400
or do you have to do you have

740
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,380
to do this as a?

741
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,220
Separate stream that comes from the server.

742
00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:11,800
I'm I don't know much about it.

743
00:31:11,820 --> 00:31:15,380
So just asking In it initially what I

744
00:31:15,380 --> 00:31:17,280
thought it was was I thought it was

745
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,580
id3 data embedded in the shoutcast stream chunks

746
00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:27,200
And if that's the case If That's the

747
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,640
case then I don't think I'd be able

748
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,500
to decode it without writing a custom audio

749
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:39,060
web web audio engine Okay, cotton gin says

750
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:41,320
there's a JSON XML endpoint for ice cast

751
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,320
that features metadata I See, I saw that

752
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,380
I saw that documented as well But it

753
00:31:49,380 --> 00:31:53,040
seems to indicate that the That where that

754
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,920
you find where that end point lives By

755
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,240
looking at the response headers of the HTTP

756
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,960
request to get the stream And I can't

757
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,680
that does not seem to be reliable.

758
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,440
I don't think Not everybody does it that

759
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,780
way not everybody does it that way there's

760
00:32:10,780 --> 00:32:13,680
different like think Thinking about like looking at

761
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,520
your stream for hello Fred for instance.

762
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:20,340
Yeah Because this is all pertinent, you know,

763
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,160
this is a godcaster related issue that I'm

764
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,840
running in from a development standpoint, but this

765
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,680
is also For you know for live to

766
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,760
doing live in general.

767
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:29,900
Yeah, you want to have that where you

768
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:30,620
got to have that?

769
00:32:30,660 --> 00:32:33,700
And so with the like broadly speaking this

770
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:35,960
needs to be for app developers of all

771
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:41,780
stripes The hello Fred live stream you're losing

772
00:32:41,780 --> 00:32:46,140
live 365 Yeah, and I couldn't and maybe

773
00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:48,600
I'm blind but I don't see anywhere where

774
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,860
it's where the Metadata endpoint is defined.

775
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,440
I Just don't see where it is.

776
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,740
Like it doesn't seem to be when you

777
00:32:57,740 --> 00:32:59,480
when you get the stream I don't see

778
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,340
a header that's coming back that says okay

779
00:33:01,340 --> 00:33:03,400
go here to get the eye the live

780
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:09,820
stream data hmm You know, I thought it

781
00:33:09,820 --> 00:33:11,900
was a the same address but a different

782
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:16,780
port honestly somehow I remember that Does it

783
00:33:16,780 --> 00:33:19,860
is there any documentation in live 365 that

784
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:24,480
would show them looking right now Let me

785
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,360
see if I can get the hello Fred

786
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,960
live stream you are well, no now there's

787
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,940
two Yeah, there's one coming from no agenda

788
00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:37,920
stream calm Which is what you probably have

789
00:33:39,140 --> 00:33:40,960
And it would be better to use that

790
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,100
one I think Because I'm streaming through live

791
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:48,860
365 and through live no agenda stream calm

792
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,240
Believe it or not for a whole bunch

793
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,820
of you're you're going live no agenda stream

794
00:33:54,820 --> 00:33:55,880
calm slash Adam.

795
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,920
Yes, correct now I know that the metadata

796
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,540
is being sent and received but That's being

797
00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:06,240
so if it shows up on No agenda

798
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,280
dot stream and I know that void zero

799
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,100
runs the server.

800
00:34:09,260 --> 00:34:10,639
So he's probably pulling it right out of

801
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,840
the server side Okay, see he's got it

802
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,840
easy there There are in the response headers

803
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,000
for the so if you do a get

804
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,659
request for HTTPS Live no agenda stream calm

805
00:34:23,659 --> 00:34:28,360
slash Adam What you get back is a

806
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,100
response You know, you obviously get the raw

807
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:32,739
byte response, but then you also get the

808
00:34:32,739 --> 00:34:36,780
headers which are which includes some ice cast

809
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,900
Specific headers.

810
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:40,920
Yeah, and that's gonna be like I see

811
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,659
I see dash description I see dash genre

812
00:34:45,659 --> 00:34:49,219
name blah blah blah blah blah and So

813
00:34:49,219 --> 00:34:53,260
then there should be by the documentation.

814
00:34:53,260 --> 00:34:54,940
I've seen there should be also be a

815
00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:58,420
metadata Endpoint in there.

816
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,400
That's something like I see dash metadata.

817
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:03,620
Hmm, and it should give you the the

818
00:35:03,620 --> 00:35:07,660
address To query, but I don't see that

819
00:35:07,660 --> 00:35:10,160
returned in almost any ice cast stream that

820
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,940
I can find Well, interestingly if I if

821
00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:15,280
you if you get the so there's an

822
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,720
X SPF stream What is that FPS well

823
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:23,920
if you go to listen, no agenda stream

824
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,840
calm Right.

825
00:35:26,220 --> 00:35:26,460
Okay.

826
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,220
Yeah, and you see at the top there

827
00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:34,420
you see mount point slash Adam mount point

828
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:37,240
I See mount point slash no agenda.

829
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,080
You don't see Adam at the top Listen,

830
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:42,500
no agenda stream doctor not live but listen

831
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,380
Yeah, yeah, listen that no agenda stream calm

832
00:35:45,380 --> 00:35:46,940
and I see mount point no agenda and

833
00:35:46,940 --> 00:35:48,320
mount point V for V music.

834
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:53,930
That's interesting Are you logged in or something?

835
00:35:54,070 --> 00:35:54,190
Maybe?

836
00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:56,590
Well, it doesn't really matter click on the

837
00:35:56,590 --> 00:35:58,610
if you download that at the top You

838
00:35:58,610 --> 00:36:03,210
see the X SPF link Yes, so if

839
00:36:03,210 --> 00:36:06,670
you download that and then open it in

840
00:36:06,670 --> 00:36:09,910
notepad plus plus I'm on Linux.

841
00:36:10,070 --> 00:36:12,770
I'll have to use a notepad How about

842
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:13,450
more?

843
00:36:16,810 --> 00:36:18,170
Cat there you go.

844
00:36:18,170 --> 00:36:20,910
You can use that So I'm going to

845
00:36:20,910 --> 00:36:23,470
you'll see that the current you know, the

846
00:36:23,470 --> 00:36:27,570
current metadata is being sent with it And

847
00:36:29,090 --> 00:36:33,350
Which is kind of interesting SPF so I

848
00:36:33,350 --> 00:36:38,550
see Homegrown hits homegrown hits episode 68 Thursday

849
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:43,790
16th of January Yeah, and I see it's

850
00:36:43,790 --> 00:36:46,450
this yeah track list track title create.

851
00:36:46,730 --> 00:36:46,830
Yeah.

852
00:36:46,990 --> 00:36:49,770
Yeah, so that changes along every time the

853
00:36:49,770 --> 00:36:50,950
stream Yes, it does.

854
00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:54,210
I believe so yeah, it does because I'm

855
00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:57,230
looking at mine from hello Fred and It

856
00:36:57,230 --> 00:37:01,190
shows me the current song playing Yes, and

857
00:37:01,190 --> 00:37:02,350
that is the current song.

858
00:37:02,670 --> 00:37:07,130
Yes, it is the current song Maybe I'm

859
00:37:07,130 --> 00:37:12,210
just not What's your what's your life 365

860
00:37:12,210 --> 00:37:20,450
URL Okay, you're hiding that behind the The

861
00:37:20,450 --> 00:37:22,510
no agenda stream comm slash Adam.

862
00:37:22,650 --> 00:37:23,410
Is that was well.

863
00:37:23,490 --> 00:37:27,790
No, I use that for tune-in But

864
00:37:27,790 --> 00:37:29,310
here I'll put it I'll put it in

865
00:37:29,310 --> 00:37:31,710
the in the in the boardroom, hold on

866
00:37:31,710 --> 00:37:33,750
I'll put in my end point My end

867
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:36,390
cuz I want to see Let's stick your

868
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:37,390
end point in the boardroom.

869
00:37:37,550 --> 00:37:37,970
There you go.

870
00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:39,850
I just stuck it in it's too late

871
00:37:39,850 --> 00:37:41,890
My end point has been stuck in the

872
00:37:41,890 --> 00:37:43,050
boardroom done.

873
00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:44,470
This is in ingest.

874
00:37:44,590 --> 00:37:44,990
Is that right?

875
00:37:45,310 --> 00:37:45,550
Yes.

876
00:37:46,210 --> 00:37:49,010
Oh wait, I'm sorry You're right my mistake,

877
00:37:49,070 --> 00:37:54,890
I think No, you're right that's that's the

878
00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:59,030
Audi Here it is.

879
00:37:59,090 --> 00:38:04,850
Here's the Audi Okay, here's the Audi There

880
00:38:04,850 --> 00:38:06,950
you go, hey there we go, that was

881
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:09,110
good, okay, so let me yeah, let me

882
00:38:09,110 --> 00:38:11,690
see Alright, so I'm gonna stick that in

883
00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:12,590
stick it in.

884
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:19,010
I Just did Dave copy link I'm gonna

885
00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:20,970
go I love I love doing this on

886
00:38:20,970 --> 00:38:23,930
in the boardroom It's like it's like, you

887
00:38:23,930 --> 00:38:25,410
know when you're in a board meeting and

888
00:38:25,410 --> 00:38:27,290
someone's trying to get the PowerPoint to work

889
00:38:27,290 --> 00:38:31,370
and I was like Looking on their phones,

890
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:36,170
you know doing other things It's like last

891
00:38:36,170 --> 00:38:38,150
week people are saying that they were bored

892
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:40,610
when the boardroom gets bored they start like

893
00:38:40,610 --> 00:38:46,110
creating protocols It's a good they were bored

894
00:38:46,110 --> 00:38:47,450
no one said that they said they were

895
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:50,070
bored last week somebody said they were bored

896
00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:55,950
Yawn, there's always some troll That's probably probably

897
00:38:55,950 --> 00:38:58,850
boobery boobery does that kind of stuff man?

898
00:38:58,970 --> 00:39:01,510
There's man yawn Yeah, man.

899
00:39:01,630 --> 00:39:02,230
Yeah, man.

900
00:39:02,370 --> 00:39:02,770
Okay.

901
00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:05,770
Yeah, see there's no there's no metadata header

902
00:39:05,770 --> 00:39:09,580
in here either So where am I supposed

903
00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:10,460
to get this from?

904
00:39:12,020 --> 00:39:14,220
Copy URL I'm gonna put in the raw

905
00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:14,700
stream.

906
00:39:15,140 --> 00:39:15,340
Yeah.

907
00:39:15,340 --> 00:39:19,140
Well, it's there it's there No, sure.

908
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:19,640
It's there.

909
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,540
It's coming out And then maybe I'll try

910
00:39:23,540 --> 00:39:31,270
dot X SPF interestingly that just gives me

911
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:38,970
the I Don't know man No, nothing on

912
00:39:38,970 --> 00:39:40,590
it, I don't know how to do this

913
00:39:40,590 --> 00:39:43,490
like I need a reliable way to document

914
00:39:43,490 --> 00:39:48,450
somewhere where To tell app developers, okay.

915
00:39:48,530 --> 00:39:49,730
Here's how you do this.

916
00:39:50,010 --> 00:39:58,310
Hmm Um Yeah, I don't I don't know

917
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:59,750
Okay.

918
00:39:59,770 --> 00:40:01,770
Well, we're gonna we're gonna figure it out

919
00:40:01,770 --> 00:40:03,250
We're gonna figure it out.

920
00:40:03,290 --> 00:40:05,430
You sure you dot dot X PSF and

921
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:08,250
it didn't didn't get you anything Yeah, yes,

922
00:40:08,270 --> 00:40:13,150
it's not no no go No, no, hold

923
00:40:13,150 --> 00:40:18,590
on a second more Hello friend XP, ooh,

924
00:40:18,670 --> 00:40:20,530
no that gave me something that gave me

925
00:40:20,530 --> 00:40:23,430
something wait Well that gave me a lot

926
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:27,350
actually if I do dot X PSF I

927
00:40:27,350 --> 00:40:30,890
get Do I get the current song?

928
00:40:31,850 --> 00:40:33,770
No, every time I do that that audio

929
00:40:33,770 --> 00:40:33,970
thing.

930
00:40:34,030 --> 00:40:34,990
It blows my head off.

931
00:40:35,230 --> 00:40:37,350
No, it's it's actually giving me the whole

932
00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:38,990
audio stream At that moment.

933
00:40:39,070 --> 00:40:43,610
No, it's not good Anyway, okay help just

934
00:40:43,610 --> 00:40:48,710
say help help Help somebody help somebody help

935
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:51,570
we'll get some it's a it's a cry

936
00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:55,630
This is the audio stream dust you're coming

937
00:40:55,630 --> 00:41:00,030
from dust edge That's edge Yes, is that

938
00:41:00,030 --> 00:41:01,490
where I'm coming from dust edge?

939
00:41:02,190 --> 00:41:04,690
Yeah, it's German It's right here.

940
00:41:04,690 --> 00:41:06,310
This is the this is the actual audio

941
00:41:06,310 --> 00:41:08,750
stream that get you get redirected to for

942
00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:12,090
your stream But then if you like tried

943
00:41:12,090 --> 00:41:14,910
various things like putting in dot X SPF,

944
00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:17,230
yeah, you get you get the stream Nothing

945
00:41:17,230 --> 00:41:19,110
you get a whole bunch of data.

946
00:41:19,350 --> 00:41:21,410
Yeah Yeah Whatever.

947
00:41:22,130 --> 00:41:24,810
All right help just help everybody now I

948
00:41:24,810 --> 00:41:26,550
there was been some talk and I'm not

949
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:28,470
gonna tell you anybody who or what but

950
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:31,090
there was some interesting talk There was some

951
00:41:31,090 --> 00:41:35,510
interesting backroom talk Back channel back channel stuff

952
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:37,490
about chapters and I thought this was so

953
00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:37,970
interesting.

954
00:41:38,030 --> 00:41:41,190
I wanted to bring it up that this

955
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:43,750
may be another very and not for necessarily

956
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:47,590
for me not for value for value, but

957
00:41:48,510 --> 00:41:54,850
Chapters Apparently from what I understand Some entities

958
00:41:54,850 --> 00:42:00,650
have been tinkering with chapters To use the

959
00:42:00,650 --> 00:42:04,330
firing of a chapter image at a chapter

960
00:42:04,330 --> 00:42:07,750
point when the podcast plays to that moment

961
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:13,570
As a tracking mechanism for people actually listening

962
00:42:13,570 --> 00:42:18,650
at that moment in the podcast Now now

963
00:42:18,650 --> 00:42:21,510
I don't know if every podcast app works

964
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:25,750
the same way I presume Some may already

965
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:26,770
cache the images.

966
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:28,570
I'm not sure and I'd love to know

967
00:42:28,570 --> 00:42:31,350
how people are doing it, but I Would

968
00:42:31,350 --> 00:42:33,830
say that is a very interesting hack that

969
00:42:33,830 --> 00:42:36,430
people are looking at and maybe we can

970
00:42:36,430 --> 00:42:39,490
turn that into something robust That is not

971
00:42:39,490 --> 00:42:43,950
necessarily a spying mechanism But does give those

972
00:42:43,950 --> 00:42:47,110
who believe advertising is the future and their

973
00:42:47,110 --> 00:42:52,330
their Lord and Savior a way to get

974
00:42:52,330 --> 00:42:55,930
more first-person data than what we currently

975
00:42:55,930 --> 00:42:58,990
have and could actually help that side of

976
00:42:58,990 --> 00:43:01,870
Podcasting because obviously I'm not against what they're

977
00:43:01,870 --> 00:43:02,210
doing.

978
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:05,310
I Thought it was just a interesting an

979
00:43:05,310 --> 00:43:15,270
interesting observation Okay, so you're saying You're saying

980
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:19,270
that let me just flesh it out Somebody's

981
00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:20,070
listening to a podcast.

982
00:43:20,210 --> 00:43:21,410
It's got chapters file in it.

983
00:43:21,490 --> 00:43:26,710
Yeah right before the ad There is an

984
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:29,470
image this displayed in the chapters and right

985
00:43:29,470 --> 00:43:31,610
after it perhaps and right after and so

986
00:43:31,610 --> 00:43:33,490
you could time you could time The to

987
00:43:33,490 --> 00:43:35,650
get requests for the images and find out

988
00:43:36,570 --> 00:43:39,870
If they listened or maybe skipped yes as

989
00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:41,750
a bonus you could actually put the ad

990
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:43,870
with the clickable link in the chapter I'm

991
00:43:43,870 --> 00:43:48,190
just saying right That may be something that's

992
00:43:48,190 --> 00:43:55,740
really beneficial easy way to fix that from

993
00:43:55,740 --> 00:43:59,060
a privacy standpoint It's just when you download

994
00:43:59,060 --> 00:44:01,840
the chapters file You just go ahead and

995
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:02,980
get all the images with it.

996
00:44:03,020 --> 00:44:05,060
Well, yeah, but I'm but I'm not saying

997
00:44:05,060 --> 00:44:07,120
it's a bad thing I'm trying to think

998
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,680
about our brothers who are the hell-bent

999
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,000
on advertising Right.

1000
00:44:12,140 --> 00:44:13,640
I want I want to have you know,

1001
00:44:13,660 --> 00:44:15,600
that could be a toggle, you know privacy

1002
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,800
mode Or you know, whatever or obfuscate to

1003
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,840
the get road proxy that get requests when

1004
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,020
you whatever it is I'm saying that that

1005
00:44:25,020 --> 00:44:28,080
could be a very interesting feature for people

1006
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,460
who want to track advertising listens And if

1007
00:44:32,460 --> 00:44:35,420
it's happening anyway, if people are experimenting with

1008
00:44:35,420 --> 00:44:36,680
it Let's get it out in the open

1009
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,820
and let's talk about how can we do

1010
00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:40,120
it that it protects privacy?

1011
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,340
But still delivers what people who need that

1012
00:44:43,340 --> 00:44:46,300
tracking want to achieve or not It doesn't

1013
00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:49,080
matter to me You can have the app

1014
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,920
that doesn't do that.

1015
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,920
That's fine But what we need what we

1016
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,620
need is for for all this I Mean

1017
00:44:57,620 --> 00:44:58,800
Apple has the right idea.

1018
00:44:58,900 --> 00:44:59,780
We need private relay.

1019
00:45:00,060 --> 00:45:01,960
There you go That would be what Apple

1020
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,240
could do that and if Apple ever decides

1021
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:05,960
to do that for their podcast app in

1022
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,780
general There's gonna be all kinds of issues

1023
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,320
No, oh, it'd be their hue and cry,

1024
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:12,900
you know, so they could do two at

1025
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:15,020
the same time They could privatize it all

1026
00:45:15,020 --> 00:45:18,260
and add in chapters Yeah, it would be

1027
00:45:18,260 --> 00:45:21,960
a win-win for everybody Yeah, because if

1028
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,560
you have anonymized IPs Or obfuscated IPs then

1029
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,420
none of that other stuff then then the

1030
00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:30,160
the tracking doesn't matter, right?

1031
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,520
We're just giving these guys so many good

1032
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,180
ideas and what are they doing Apple intelligence?

1033
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,800
There's no intelligence to be found in it

1034
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,920
No, no, you see they've even stopped doing

1035
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,660
the the little summary of news Alerts because

1036
00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:51,060
they were doing news alert some you get

1037
00:45:51,060 --> 00:45:51,420
an alert.

1038
00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:53,720
There's a news item breaking news breaking news

1039
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:55,780
I need your attention right now, and they

1040
00:45:55,780 --> 00:45:57,620
would summarize it and it would it would

1041
00:45:57,620 --> 00:46:00,760
kind of Transmogrify the headline is something that

1042
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:06,340
was completely untrue The example being the the

1043
00:46:06,340 --> 00:46:09,420
kid who shot and killed the insurance company

1044
00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:14,160
CEO They had do they had that The

1045
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,540
final line was and then he shot himself

1046
00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:22,020
So he didn't shoot himself and but now

1047
00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:24,620
Apple has actually stopped doing that because the

1048
00:46:24,620 --> 00:46:26,780
BBC was very upset with him because the

1049
00:46:26,780 --> 00:46:29,080
BBC Was getting all these I mean there

1050
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,040
may be three examples, but let's just say

1051
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,640
all of these Headlines from Apple's pop-up

1052
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,780
alert that were just factually incorrect and they

1053
00:46:37,780 --> 00:46:41,220
were like Apple Apple stopped doing that for

1054
00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:46,630
now at least Spurlock says that ice cast

1055
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:50,230
show shoutcast streams stick live meta in between

1056
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:53,150
the MP MP3 frames So I didn't see

1057
00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:57,610
this because Spurlock Is a genius No, no,

1058
00:46:57,630 --> 00:47:01,670
he he's he's not he's not a Shuns

1059
00:47:01,670 --> 00:47:03,450
the board really he doesn't he doesn't sit

1060
00:47:03,450 --> 00:47:04,090
in the boardroom.

1061
00:47:04,190 --> 00:47:04,450
Why not?

1062
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:05,290
What's his problem?

1063
00:47:05,790 --> 00:47:08,610
He doesn't like the way everybody smells No

1064
00:47:08,610 --> 00:47:12,270
fair, he's yeah, it's I mean, honestly, it's

1065
00:47:12,270 --> 00:47:14,530
a little ripe in here sometimes But that's

1066
00:47:14,530 --> 00:47:16,930
that's the way, you know shout if that's

1067
00:47:16,930 --> 00:47:19,030
the case, then I would you should be

1068
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:21,390
able to pick it up Well, I mean

1069
00:47:21,390 --> 00:47:23,070
with you'd have to decode the audio.

1070
00:47:23,130 --> 00:47:30,850
You gotta have a sniffer Yeah, you just

1071
00:47:31,390 --> 00:47:34,070
Sniffer grab a sniffer have a sniffer man.

1072
00:47:34,130 --> 00:47:36,010
Just get a little sniffer sniffer action going

1073
00:47:36,010 --> 00:47:36,250
on.

1074
00:47:36,310 --> 00:47:40,010
You're good to go That's cry for help

1075
00:47:40,010 --> 00:47:42,210
may not be this may not be the

1076
00:47:42,210 --> 00:47:44,810
in sniffer action That may be the title

1077
00:47:44,810 --> 00:47:47,010
of this just get a little bit of

1078
00:47:47,010 --> 00:47:50,250
sniffer action because that's that's actually kind of

1079
00:47:50,250 --> 00:47:52,030
difficult because you I mean you would have

1080
00:47:52,030 --> 00:47:55,290
to Create your own and you'd have to

1081
00:47:55,290 --> 00:47:58,270
do web audio Yeah, and then decode the

1082
00:47:58,270 --> 00:48:01,510
mp3s yourself Which is great as long as

1083
00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:03,490
you know, which is not the I mean,

1084
00:48:03,490 --> 00:48:06,110
it's no fun, but it's not the end

1085
00:48:06,110 --> 00:48:10,030
of the world Until now you have to

1086
00:48:10,030 --> 00:48:12,250
not all now you have to do Oh

1087
00:48:13,010 --> 00:48:18,730
AAC right, right Version 2 version 2 and

1088
00:48:18,730 --> 00:48:19,450
OGG.

1089
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:20,370
Oh, yeah.

1090
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:22,630
Yeah, and then it's like, oh really?

1091
00:48:22,830 --> 00:48:23,950
I mean, I don't want to have to

1092
00:48:23,950 --> 00:48:26,230
recreate all these different protocols and nobody else

1093
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:29,270
does either But I mean, it's gotta be

1094
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:31,250
a simpler way to do this I mean,

1095
00:48:31,330 --> 00:48:33,810
how did a podcast addict podcast addict should

1096
00:48:33,810 --> 00:48:38,190
tell us they've done it May it this

1097
00:48:38,190 --> 00:48:39,990
there's got there's got to be a way

1098
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:41,610
it's got to be a way to player

1099
00:48:41,610 --> 00:48:43,470
just a different player you put in There

1100
00:48:43,470 --> 00:48:44,990
it doesn't make any sense to me Why

1101
00:48:44,990 --> 00:48:46,130
would it be why would they make it

1102
00:48:46,130 --> 00:48:48,630
so hard that the pod sage can't figure

1103
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:48,910
it out.

1104
00:48:48,930 --> 00:48:51,790
This is this is atrocious No, but there's

1105
00:48:51,790 --> 00:48:53,290
a lot of things I can't figure out.

1106
00:48:53,350 --> 00:48:56,790
This is not a new development This is

1107
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:57,770
not a new development.

1108
00:48:57,870 --> 00:49:02,330
Yeah, you see see See server-side refresh

1109
00:49:02,330 --> 00:49:05,990
Hydrated pages and trying to you know, load

1110
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:09,170
dynamic content nice from a third party.

1111
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:14,630
Awesome I want to end everything You know

1112
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:17,550
Yeah, next to JS with hydration.

1113
00:49:17,870 --> 00:49:19,210
That is no fun.

1114
00:49:19,370 --> 00:49:19,830
Please.

1115
00:49:20,010 --> 00:49:20,270
Okay.

1116
00:49:20,530 --> 00:49:23,590
All right We won't go there server-side.

1117
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:25,310
Yes, please if you if you're a web

1118
00:49:25,310 --> 00:49:29,810
dev, please don't do server-side Rendering with

1119
00:49:29,810 --> 00:49:34,110
next J with with these react frameworks Please

1120
00:49:34,110 --> 00:49:36,550
don't it just makes everything such a pain

1121
00:49:36,550 --> 00:49:39,890
in the butt even it even breaks Things

1122
00:49:39,890 --> 00:49:43,210
like last pass like it breaks like web

1123
00:49:43,210 --> 00:49:43,750
extensions.

1124
00:49:43,950 --> 00:49:49,210
Yeah anything anything that break so there's Like

1125
00:49:49,210 --> 00:49:51,730
any I think what's happening is it's like

1126
00:49:51,730 --> 00:49:58,230
it's rendering everything on It's rendering everything server

1127
00:49:58,230 --> 00:50:02,010
-side and then pushing it to Pushing it

1128
00:50:02,010 --> 00:50:04,410
to like a shadow DOM and then flipping

1129
00:50:04,410 --> 00:50:08,190
it into the regular DOM in after the

1130
00:50:08,190 --> 00:50:11,830
page loads and So you don't but there's

1131
00:50:11,830 --> 00:50:16,210
no like as a third party developer That's

1132
00:50:16,210 --> 00:50:17,810
supposed to put some stuff on the page

1133
00:50:17,810 --> 00:50:19,690
or interact with the page somehow There's no

1134
00:50:19,690 --> 00:50:21,510
clear way to know when the page is

1135
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:24,490
finished building itself So it's just like you're

1136
00:50:24,490 --> 00:50:28,550
just like what mm-hmm You got to

1137
00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:30,670
get your doms in order man something wrong

1138
00:50:30,670 --> 00:50:34,290
with your doms Hell, it's a dumb issue

1139
00:50:35,830 --> 00:50:37,510
His dom is a dumb issue.

1140
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:40,710
Yes, I wanted to mention Another huge opportunity

1141
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:42,270
for everybody that you could even do.

1142
00:50:42,490 --> 00:50:45,870
Okay AI jockeys AI jockeys pay attention Here's

1143
00:50:45,870 --> 00:50:49,470
something you can do or not or you

1144
00:50:49,470 --> 00:50:52,230
could do it just by yourself Something and

1145
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:56,370
another gaping hole has has showed up has

1146
00:50:56,370 --> 00:51:02,410
has opened in the Communications landscape in America,

1147
00:51:02,510 --> 00:51:04,330
I'll say in America, but it may actually

1148
00:51:04,330 --> 00:51:05,230
be more outside.

1149
00:51:05,310 --> 00:51:10,130
I'm not sure Byron Allen Who I really

1150
00:51:10,130 --> 00:51:13,270
think is a cool dude Byron Allen Started

1151
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:15,090
with a radio show and now he just

1152
00:51:15,090 --> 00:51:18,530
has a media empire And he owns a

1153
00:51:18,530 --> 00:51:23,090
lot of cable Cable stations cable programming.

1154
00:51:23,290 --> 00:51:24,670
He's just been buying this up over the

1155
00:51:24,670 --> 00:51:27,930
years And he just recently closed his acquisition

1156
00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:31,370
for 300 million dollars of the weather channel

1157
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:35,210
So he owns the weather channel he owns

1158
00:51:35,210 --> 00:51:38,150
the weather channel And the first order of

1159
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:40,210
business which of course if you're gonna buy

1160
00:51:40,210 --> 00:51:41,770
the weather channel you want to make money

1161
00:51:41,770 --> 00:51:44,010
on it So what did he do fired

1162
00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:45,650
all the local weather people?

1163
00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:50,100
Okay now I'll tell you from my experience

1164
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:53,420
from my little Fredericksburg streaming station hello Fred

1165
00:51:53,420 --> 00:51:58,200
dot FM The number one thing people this

1166
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,120
is what people always say to me after

1167
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,980
they've listened for it for an hour or

1168
00:52:01,980 --> 00:52:03,220
day or whatever They'll come up to me

1169
00:52:03,220 --> 00:52:04,540
and say man.

1170
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,360
I love hello Fred dot FM I especially

1171
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,680
love it when you tell me what the

1172
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,240
temperature is on Main Street Because you know

1173
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:13,680
and the trap and the trap well, I

1174
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,840
don't have traffic, but the you know the

1175
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,900
software I use the playout system I basically

1176
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:21,640
recorded from minus ten to plus a hundred

1177
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,440
and ten and then it goes like this

1178
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,320
It's 15 degrees on Main Street in Fred,

1179
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,180
and it just pops it in in between

1180
00:52:28,180 --> 00:52:32,280
two songs people love that the most They

1181
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,580
say They really do they said you know

1182
00:52:34,580 --> 00:52:35,900
I can listen to k-love, but I

1183
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:37,360
like listen to hello Fred It's got the

1184
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,740
same kind of music, but I get to

1185
00:52:38,740 --> 00:52:40,400
know what the temperature is on Main Street,

1186
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,420
so it's really hyper local What an opportunity?

1187
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:46,000
What an opportunity?

1188
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,680
for automated stuff I mean for so many

1189
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,320
different things I I'm blown away by the

1190
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,700
opportunity here for local weather Which you can

1191
00:52:57,700 --> 00:53:01,080
get from you your nearest regional airport or

1192
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,280
local airport you can go to their website

1193
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,580
And they'll have the the the TAF the

1194
00:53:06,580 --> 00:53:10,860
terminal area forecast, and it's very accurate The

1195
00:53:10,860 --> 00:53:11,820
I mean that's great.

1196
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,540
You just scrape the HTML and get a

1197
00:53:13,540 --> 00:53:13,840
sniffer.

1198
00:53:14,020 --> 00:53:15,880
You didn't get a surfer You can guess

1199
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,160
it well you can also get it from

1200
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,200
the National Weather Service You can get the

1201
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,380
it's code so you have to decode it,

1202
00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:25,400
but most of these local Airports they'll decode

1203
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,100
it for you because it's just saying you

1204
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:30,120
know they have BRKN which means broken you

1205
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,280
know they have all these abbreviations, which is

1206
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,300
a as a pilot I've learned to read

1207
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:35,980
them, but you know if we can get

1208
00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:36,760
it translated.

1209
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,280
That's good, too Right and it's good within

1210
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,460
like a 12-hour period it's going to

1211
00:53:42,460 --> 00:53:44,820
be very very accurate because lives depend on

1212
00:53:44,820 --> 00:53:46,380
it So these types of and they have

1213
00:53:46,380 --> 00:53:48,980
PI reps which is pilot report So you

1214
00:53:48,980 --> 00:53:51,560
know you get a good situational awareness, and

1215
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,180
it's and now you have this hole where

1216
00:53:53,180 --> 00:53:56,520
people desperately want this kind of information So

1217
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,000
even if you had a podcast that just

1218
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,100
said right now the weather is and here's

1219
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:03,240
what's coming up people would listen to it

1220
00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:05,740
They would subscribe, and they will always check

1221
00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:06,300
the weather boom.

1222
00:54:06,420 --> 00:54:08,460
Here's my latest report kind of like James

1223
00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:11,100
when he had that time thing Oh, yeah,

1224
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,100
the clock yeah the clock which was cool.

1225
00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:14,480
It was a pod clock pod clock.

1226
00:54:14,580 --> 00:54:16,440
Yeah I think he he shut that down

1227
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,760
he he it went into sunset mode.

1228
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,300
He retired shame Yeah, but and it would

1229
00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:25,620
have your your local your local time wherever

1230
00:54:25,620 --> 00:54:28,360
you were based on time zone That is

1231
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,280
I'm that is a programming opportunity that is

1232
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,200
just waiting to be scooped up by somebody

1233
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:34,700
How are you?

1234
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,840
How are you doing that on the live

1235
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:37,960
365 side?

1236
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,920
Well, I you how is it dynamic well?

1237
00:54:40,980 --> 00:54:44,280
I use this software called station playlist which

1238
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,040
is what most radio stations use.

1239
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:46,660
It's not cheap.

1240
00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:50,120
It's like 400 bucks And it has all

1241
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,940
these different things, I mean you can record

1242
00:54:52,940 --> 00:54:54,780
A little you can just record a little

1243
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:57,280
intro just talking about something And then you

1244
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,480
can tell it okay back time it into

1245
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,360
the intro of the next song that comes

1246
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,660
up That that presumes that you have the

1247
00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:07,160
intro timing set etc So in this case

1248
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,040
I literally just have a temp a temp

1249
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,160
insert the software Looks at the at the

1250
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,580
temperature for Fredericksburg, which I get from whatever

1251
00:55:15,580 --> 00:55:18,100
service they use you know whatever open-source

1252
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:20,860
service So it knows that it's 50 degrees,

1253
00:55:20,860 --> 00:55:23,240
and then actually I can I can probably

1254
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:24,400
play this for you get it you get

1255
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,160
it Let me see so I'll say it

1256
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:27,480
right now.

1257
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:32,540
It's about 39 degrees in Fred hold on

1258
00:55:32,540 --> 00:55:35,520
a second Where do I get that from?

1259
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,760
Hottest year on record It's always the hottest

1260
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,600
year on record Hold on a second.

1261
00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:44,140
I said I have to go in here.

1262
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,860
It's it's really it's really quite funny.

1263
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,200
Let me see station playlist Where is it

1264
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,980
here it is and then temp files?

1265
00:55:53,620 --> 00:55:58,160
Studio Okay, but it's your software.

1266
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:58,820
That's dude.

1267
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,040
That's like dynamically.

1268
00:56:00,380 --> 00:56:02,140
Yes, so it picks it up.

1269
00:56:02,140 --> 00:56:05,060
It literally picks it up Let me see,

1270
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,740
but it feels like mine.

1271
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,580
Oh, that's that's feels like I didn't do

1272
00:56:08,580 --> 00:56:10,460
the feels like stuff That was too stupid

1273
00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:14,040
for me Here we go is this edge.

1274
00:56:14,540 --> 00:56:18,800
Yeah Here we go it's 17 degree.

1275
00:56:19,140 --> 00:56:21,180
That's their standard thing and here's my it's

1276
00:56:21,180 --> 00:56:23,780
minus 17 degree man, I'm in the wrong

1277
00:56:23,780 --> 00:56:26,100
folder they so they give you they give

1278
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:27,500
you that I don't use that one I

1279
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:30,900
recorded them myself Yeah, I've heard your inserts.

1280
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:31,900
They yeah, they're cool.

1281
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:34,260
Yeah, I'm trying to find one to play

1282
00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:36,280
for people, but obviously I'm I guess What

1283
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,900
I'm wondering is it is it?

1284
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,940
Uploading it to live 365 grid that no

1285
00:56:41,940 --> 00:56:44,000
no no no this this does all local,

1286
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,440
and it just outputs it Outputs it as

1287
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,220
a in the stream, so it just inserts

1288
00:56:50,220 --> 00:56:51,720
it the same way it would play the

1289
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:55,040
next song It just plays it just plays

1290
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,960
the temperature Okay, so I think I misunderstood

1291
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,080
live 365 so live 365 is an RTSP

1292
00:57:01,780 --> 00:57:05,160
You're you're broadcasting into live 365 from here.

1293
00:57:05,180 --> 00:57:07,160
We go like it like you Is on

1294
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,880
Main Street in Fred there you go.

1295
00:57:09,020 --> 00:57:10,440
That's that's that okay?

1296
00:57:10,580 --> 00:57:13,020
Yeah, so you're doing is sort of like

1297
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:15,580
it's sort of like OBS would you're broadcasting

1298
00:57:15,580 --> 00:57:16,740
into?

1299
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,540
365 yes, yeah exactly Restreaming you yes live

1300
00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:23,800
365 does have a way where you can

1301
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,500
schedule everything and it will do the transitions

1302
00:57:26,500 --> 00:57:28,760
But it's kind of low tech It's great

1303
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,580
if you're just starting out But if you

1304
00:57:30,580 --> 00:57:32,540
really want to make things zippy and snappy

1305
00:57:32,540 --> 00:57:34,120
then you have to go to your own

1306
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,860
software, so I have a full-time Dell

1307
00:57:36,860 --> 00:57:39,180
that's just running that software all the time

1308
00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:40,500
I Got you.

1309
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:40,740
Okay.

1310
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,140
This makes things a lot clearer.

1311
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:43,000
Okay.

1312
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:44,280
I got you and so how I went

1313
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,540
so you so the metadata that Ultimately comes

1314
00:57:47,540 --> 00:57:50,780
out of the hello Fred livestream is coming

1315
00:57:50,780 --> 00:57:53,440
a writ is originating from the software yes

1316
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,540
from me correct Okay, this is much clearer

1317
00:57:57,540 --> 00:58:00,480
in my head No, I like that.

1318
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:00,760
Okay.

1319
00:58:01,180 --> 00:58:01,780
Okay.

1320
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,000
I've helped the sage.

1321
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,680
This is amazing All right no one more

1322
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,460
topic we got a hit because as I

1323
00:58:10,460 --> 00:58:14,840
look at my strike wallet funny things are

1324
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,740
happening I Got two sats here earlier this

1325
00:58:18,740 --> 00:58:21,300
week if you're seeing this then I zapped

1326
00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:26,560
episode 207 from Nostra From Damus on iOS

1327
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,720
using strike and it went to all the

1328
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,440
splits love Stephen B Of course it was

1329
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:32,940
Stephen B.

1330
00:58:33,060 --> 00:58:35,140
So his split box is working.

1331
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,720
I have no idea What do you do

1332
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:38,980
Stephen?

1333
00:58:39,460 --> 00:58:39,920
Well?

1334
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:41,620
I think he's using the split box now

1335
00:58:41,620 --> 00:58:46,460
I see Undefined Eric PP PC 207 live

1336
00:58:46,460 --> 00:58:50,100
January 17th, so it's last week Six sats

1337
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:54,100
So something is working somewhere And I have

1338
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:56,820
a feeling that the split box if that

1339
00:58:56,820 --> 00:58:59,240
one thing that Stephen B Sent he must

1340
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,760
be using the split box if he can

1341
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:07,340
zap to episode 207 From a Nostra note

1342
00:59:07,340 --> 00:59:10,900
from Damus on iOS using strike and it

1343
00:59:10,900 --> 00:59:11,840
went to all the splits.

1344
00:59:11,860 --> 00:59:15,080
That's pretty amazing Stephen B.

1345
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,140
Said witchcraft and lots of chicken bones.

1346
00:59:17,340 --> 00:59:17,520
Okay.

1347
00:59:17,660 --> 00:59:18,820
Well, there we go.

1348
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,780
Could you please document your chicken bones?

1349
00:59:22,180 --> 00:59:25,040
We need we should get Stephen on the

1350
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:25,320
show.

1351
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,820
Just get him to break down split box.

1352
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,560
Yeah, that would be let's do that Stephen

1353
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,880
be you available next week.

1354
00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:30,600
Let's do that.

1355
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:32,040
Yeah, let's go ahead and do that He

1356
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,380
says split box can now read feed and

1357
00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:39,200
get item goods That I put in the

1358
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,740
Nostra notes, okay Okay, I see that And

1359
00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:46,920
so he was sending it from strike which

1360
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,940
doesn't do key send and his split box

1361
00:59:49,940 --> 00:59:52,760
was then converting what needed to be key

1362
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,700
sent into key sand and what needed to

1363
00:59:54,700 --> 00:59:57,940
be Ellen URL pay into Ellen URL pay

1364
00:59:57,940 --> 01:00:02,720
and Re broadcasting it which is just lovely

1365
01:00:04,900 --> 01:00:07,940
Interesting and and we're still waiting for for

1366
01:00:07,940 --> 01:00:12,420
Oscar to get To get the Ellen URL

1367
01:00:12,420 --> 01:00:14,700
P stuff working on fountain he says what

1368
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:16,400
is coming in the next week or so

1369
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,860
So we're waiting for that Yeah, I think

1370
01:00:19,860 --> 01:00:21,280
Oscar was out of the country for a

1371
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:21,380
while.

1372
01:00:21,420 --> 01:00:22,700
I think he was on vacation He's always

1373
01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:23,380
out of the country.

1374
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,080
He lives in England.

1375
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:24,640
What do you mean?

1376
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,920
The only country that matters man, but no

1377
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,140
one by the way, I will I will

1378
01:00:31,140 --> 01:00:34,660
point out that our new our newly minted

1379
01:00:34,660 --> 01:00:39,920
president Put out quite an interesting Statement on

1380
01:00:40,660 --> 01:00:42,320
Let me see if I can find it

1381
01:00:43,420 --> 01:00:45,580
the Where is it?

1382
01:00:45,940 --> 01:00:49,900
executive order to establish United States leadership in

1383
01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:53,960
digital financial technology and There's a lot in

1384
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,340
here, which I'm still parsing But yes, this

1385
01:00:57,340 --> 01:00:59,140
is causing much consternation.

1386
01:00:59,320 --> 01:00:59,640
Yeah.

1387
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:02,820
Well, you know Confusion like some people are

1388
01:01:02,820 --> 01:01:04,720
like rug pull, you know, and other people

1389
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,040
are I don't I don't know.

1390
01:01:06,180 --> 01:01:09,060
I don't see the rug pull But it

1391
01:01:09,060 --> 01:01:15,620
does it doesn't mention specifically Self custody and

1392
01:01:15,620 --> 01:01:18,880
creating software that you can do all that

1393
01:01:19,980 --> 01:01:24,180
I'm looking for the for the exact language

1394
01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:28,960
here I think the rug pull comments came

1395
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:34,380
from the from the the stable coin Stuff.

1396
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:35,640
Oh, but I've said this from day.

1397
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,380
He was very clear about that at the

1398
01:01:37,380 --> 01:01:40,080
Bitcoin conference But everyone's all too jitty listening

1399
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,040
to the Bitcoin strategic Bitcoin reserve He's going

1400
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,580
to use stable coins stable coin that the

1401
01:01:46,580 --> 01:01:50,720
US dollar will be stable coin based which

1402
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,940
is great because stable coins are based on

1403
01:01:54,940 --> 01:01:58,100
a A one-to-one peg with the

1404
01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:01,560
US dollar and a stable coin is created

1405
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,860
when the US borrows one dollar So and

1406
01:02:04,860 --> 01:02:07,160
we borrow a dollar So we have a

1407
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,100
dollar we just created a dollar and we

1408
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:12,480
borrowed that and someone else holds that debt

1409
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,580
That is tether because they hold a lot

1410
01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:16,760
of it And then they create another dollar

1411
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,300
in the form of a stable coin on

1412
01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:21,980
top of that So you've secretly kind of

1413
01:02:21,980 --> 01:02:23,920
made two dollars for the price of one

1414
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:29,880
on the balance on the balance No, the

1415
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,140
whole the whole thing could fall apart, I

1416
01:02:32,140 --> 01:02:33,920
mean our entire economy could blow up at

1417
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,520
any moment my favorite my favorite line from

1418
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,300
the from the movie contact is You know

1419
01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:42,200
with governments.

1420
01:02:42,260 --> 01:02:44,460
Why about why build one when you can

1421
01:02:44,460 --> 01:02:45,880
build two for twice the price?

1422
01:02:46,780 --> 01:02:48,000
exactly Exactly.

1423
01:02:48,260 --> 01:02:50,740
I'll have to I'm looking into it, but

1424
01:02:50,740 --> 01:02:52,720
I'm gonna I'm gonna see if I can

1425
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,340
break that down for next week because there's

1426
01:02:54,340 --> 01:02:58,080
there's some other stuff that that that needs

1427
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,920
to be discussed about but but specifically it

1428
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,040
said self custody will be legal and And

1429
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,200
we should not only be feel free to

1430
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:12,620
create software that that that facilitates cryptocurrency, but

1431
01:03:12,620 --> 01:03:15,120
also be you know free and legal to

1432
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,650
do that and So you won't get rolled

1433
01:03:17,650 --> 01:03:22,640
up into you know, some Get arrested for

1434
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:29,500
doing something This all sounds like manosphere talking

1435
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:34,380
points protecting and promoting the ability of Citizens

1436
01:03:34,380 --> 01:03:37,320
and private sector entities alike to access and

1437
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,560
use for lawful purposes open public blockchain networks

1438
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,340
without persecution Including the ability to develop and

1439
01:03:44,340 --> 01:03:47,460
deploy software to participate in mining and validation

1440
01:03:47,460 --> 01:03:51,180
To transact with other persons without unlawful censorship

1441
01:03:51,180 --> 01:03:54,180
and to maintain self custody of digital assets

1442
01:03:54,180 --> 01:03:59,180
Dude that just made split box legal That's

1443
01:03:59,180 --> 01:04:02,760
what was the the thing that's needed is

1444
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,520
the thing that this this This not clear

1445
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,080
to me with this but seems to be

1446
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,160
promised in this which is which is regulatory

1447
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:12,860
clarity, correct?

1448
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,220
Okay, because I mean that that's really the

1449
01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:19,960
issue here is that and if I run

1450
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,920
split box Am I a money transmitter?

1451
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,600
Well, you may be but as long as

1452
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,040
you're not doing it for unlawful reasons, you're

1453
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,400
okay, according to purpose and policy section 1

1454
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:37,740
AI Well, yeah Apple intelligence.

1455
01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:40,600
Yeah, I think providing right here We go

1456
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,860
providing regulatory clarity and certainty built on technology

1457
01:04:43,860 --> 01:04:47,200
neutral regulations frameworks that account for emerging technologies

1458
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:52,060
transparent decision-making a well-defined Jurisdictional regulatory

1459
01:04:52,060 --> 01:04:55,480
regulatory boundaries all of which are essential essential

1460
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,940
to support a vibrant and inclusive digital economy

1461
01:04:57,940 --> 01:05:02,160
and innovation digital assets permissionless blockchains and distributor

1462
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,620
ledger technologies Promoting and protecting the sovereignty of

1463
01:05:06,620 --> 01:05:09,020
the United States dollar including through actions to

1464
01:05:09,020 --> 01:05:10,900
promote the development and growth of lawful and

1465
01:05:10,900 --> 01:05:14,040
legitimate dollar backs Stable coins worldwide.

1466
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:18,460
There's your there's your extra dollar creation But

1467
01:05:18,460 --> 01:05:21,000
it it's it's very clear that you should

1468
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,120
be able to develop and deploy software to

1469
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,980
participate in mining and validating to transact with

1470
01:05:25,980 --> 01:05:29,020
other persons That I interpret that to be

1471
01:05:29,020 --> 01:05:32,020
directly without unlawful censorship and to maintain self

1472
01:05:32,020 --> 01:05:34,660
custody of assets These are all the issues

1473
01:05:34,660 --> 01:05:37,280
I'll be had Right.

1474
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:49,840
Yeah Yeah,

1475
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,400
that's that's what Daniel was saying it doesn't

1476
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,180
mean Albie can come back I mean, I

1477
01:05:54,180 --> 01:05:56,480
doubt they would because they would you know,

1478
01:05:56,540 --> 01:06:03,500
it's specifically states no CBDC Specifically, no CBDCs.

1479
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,460
No, no No taking measures to protect Americans

1480
01:06:06,460 --> 01:06:08,700
from the risk of central bank digital currencies,

1481
01:06:08,900 --> 01:06:11,100
which threaten the stability of the financial system

1482
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:12,500
Yeah, like stable coins are great.

1483
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:13,420
Okay, fine.

1484
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:14,180
Yeah.

1485
01:06:14,180 --> 01:06:19,120
Well see CBDCs the thing It's not like

1486
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,700
the digital dollar that we already use is

1487
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:26,700
that much different than a CBDC No, everything's

1488
01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:29,300
digital anyway The only thing that have the

1489
01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:31,240
only thing that's the problem with a CBDC

1490
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,640
is that it accelerates the the the race

1491
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,700
to the bottom Yes, like an infinity speed

1492
01:06:37,700 --> 01:06:40,480
it does it does Because because then you

1493
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,700
just there's just no not even any pretense

1494
01:06:42,700 --> 01:06:44,840
of holding back You just you know, you

1495
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,980
just start adding zeros like, you know, yeah

1496
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,660
they're doing But I Think this is very

1497
01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:52,740
positive for me.

1498
01:06:52,780 --> 01:06:54,600
It's spells out very clearly.

1499
01:06:54,780 --> 01:06:57,280
You can develop software as long as you're

1500
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,500
not using it for money-laundering Which you

1501
01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:03,380
know, of course there's all kinds of caveats

1502
01:07:03,380 --> 01:07:05,240
there that has to be lawful So if

1503
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,000
someone is boosting a million dollars through your

1504
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,360
your split box You might have a problem

1505
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,900
if they're doing it to obfuscate money laundering,

1506
01:07:12,980 --> 01:07:15,720
but it's highly doubtful that is going to

1507
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:22,340
work Whoa That drips got waltzes in the

1508
01:07:22,340 --> 01:07:25,260
door Well, that's just where you you know,

1509
01:07:25,540 --> 01:07:27,220
but that's just where you put sane limits.

1510
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:30,040
Yeah, exactly even you know, even at like

1511
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,500
Albie did this when you're running a service

1512
01:07:33,500 --> 01:07:36,260
and You know, this is something that I've

1513
01:07:36,260 --> 01:07:39,380
run into this week Let's let's go this

1514
01:07:39,380 --> 01:07:46,840
way So Tom over at bus sprout He

1515
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:51,060
pinged me and said You know, hey, I'm

1516
01:07:51,060 --> 01:07:55,120
about one out of every You know 200

1517
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,300
requests is to the API I'm getting an

1518
01:07:58,300 --> 01:08:00,840
error and it's a it's a compression a

1519
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,560
decompression error Yes.

1520
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,660
Yes, and So I'm like, huh?

1521
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:07,780
That's that's odd.

1522
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:08,900
And he you know, he showed me the

1523
01:08:08,900 --> 01:08:15,120
error and And It's it's like a something

1524
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,680
with it with decoding does the Z the

1525
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,560
g-zip compression from the HTTP You know

1526
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:26,300
payload Okay, this is weird so I look

1527
01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:28,140
and I can't find I really can't find

1528
01:08:28,140 --> 01:08:31,760
anything in any of the logs That's causing

1529
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:32,540
a problem.

1530
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:35,260
I Don't see where this is where this

1531
01:08:35,260 --> 01:08:37,140
failure is being documented and the thing is

1532
01:08:37,140 --> 01:08:39,200
he's still getting back a 200 error Excuse

1533
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,319
me a 200 response code but then it

1534
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:47,660
just fails on the decoding part and The

1535
01:08:47,660 --> 01:08:52,140
only thing I can see that's different By

1536
01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:54,380
looking at all the logging on cloudflare and

1537
01:08:54,380 --> 01:08:58,760
everything is that We've had a huge influx

1538
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,200
in the in the amount of API traffic,

1539
01:09:01,220 --> 01:09:05,720
okay The the the overall traffic on the

1540
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,500
API has gone way up.

1541
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:08,859
Do we know where it's coming from?

1542
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,800
well, I started looking, you know started looking

1543
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:16,100
into it and there's a couple there were

1544
01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:21,700
a couple of new sources of Requests that

1545
01:09:21,700 --> 01:09:25,420
look like they're not They're not steady.

1546
01:09:25,460 --> 01:09:30,160
They're sort of bursty type traffic bursty They're

1547
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:30,660
very burst.

1548
01:09:30,740 --> 01:09:31,500
They're very thirsty.

1549
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,120
Hmm sounds scammy.

1550
01:09:33,899 --> 01:09:35,580
I Don't think it is.

1551
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,340
I think it's just people Actually in a

1552
01:09:38,340 --> 01:09:40,200
bursty mood, I think I'll burst over at

1553
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:45,080
podcast index here I come I'm bursting I

1554
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,840
don't think it's necessarily scammy.

1555
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,300
I think they're just over I think they're

1556
01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:53,700
hitting the API to too fast of a

1557
01:09:53,700 --> 01:09:56,980
rate and Like we I get this from

1558
01:09:56,980 --> 01:09:58,000
from time to time.

1559
01:09:58,020 --> 01:10:00,720
I get people emailing and saying hey, I

1560
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,500
just hit your rate limit What is I'm

1561
01:10:04,500 --> 01:10:06,500
getting rate limited what is your rate limit

1562
01:10:06,500 --> 01:10:08,820
so I'll know how much traffic I can

1563
01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:11,480
send Yes, we have seen those notes, too

1564
01:10:12,380 --> 01:10:15,460
Are you I'm almost always reply and say

1565
01:10:15,460 --> 01:10:17,520
we do not publish rate limits, right?

1566
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,780
Because this is my standard replies.

1567
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,600
We do not publish rate limits because we

1568
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,700
are a free service that operates on donations

1569
01:10:23,700 --> 01:10:29,460
and if we publish rate limits Everyone would

1570
01:10:29,460 --> 01:10:32,420
elevate their there to the rate limit exactly

1571
01:10:32,420 --> 01:10:34,580
to right under the rate limit and you

1572
01:10:34,580 --> 01:10:37,160
can't and we can't handle that We we

1573
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,640
just want we want you to do We

1574
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,020
want you to treat the API responsibly that

1575
01:10:43,020 --> 01:10:47,900
means think about how you Cannot hit us

1576
01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:52,800
very much Please please consider us consider us

1577
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,220
like your friends not like just some some

1578
01:10:55,220 --> 01:10:57,400
well You can drink from all the time

1579
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,100
whenever you want you thirsty pauper you Yeah,

1580
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,000
right and the ones that always ask about

1581
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,880
the rate limits are the ones that have

1582
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,580
never donated any of course Oh, yeah, so

1583
01:11:07,580 --> 01:11:10,660
I know people who complain about donation segments

1584
01:11:10,660 --> 01:11:14,960
have never donated right, so this is that's

1585
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:20,000
my typical response and The and I think

1586
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,540
what has happened is a couple of people

1587
01:11:22,540 --> 01:11:24,820
have come on board and they're hammering us

1588
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,940
In in waves to the point where they

1589
01:11:28,940 --> 01:11:31,040
get rate limited And I think at that

1590
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,240
point what is happening is I think I

1591
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,860
feel like It is Overloading the front ends

1592
01:11:37,860 --> 01:11:40,040
either one or both of the front-end

1593
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,640
servers to the point where there starts to

1594
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:46,360
become error Errored like traffic like responses maybe

1595
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:53,580
get Broken mm-hmm and then When it

1596
01:11:53,580 --> 01:11:57,580
backs off Everything goes back to normal This

1597
01:11:57,580 --> 01:12:04,200
is just Completely a guess on my part

1598
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,500
because I can't find any reason for this

1599
01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:10,000
hmm, I don't know so that means the

1600
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,220
compression breaks when when when we're getting hammered

1601
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:19,460
Here my theory is that is that before

1602
01:12:19,460 --> 01:12:23,320
the rate limit kicks in The traffic gets

1603
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,280
high enough on one of the front-end

1604
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:33,000
nodes to to cause a connection failure Before

1605
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,480
the request is finished and this and so

1606
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:37,860
what you end up is you end up

1607
01:12:37,860 --> 01:12:41,580
with half a request being returned So you

1608
01:12:41,580 --> 01:12:43,900
don't you basically have an incomplete payload being

1609
01:12:43,900 --> 01:12:47,580
returned from the edge node To cloudflare which

1610
01:12:47,580 --> 01:12:49,260
then passes it through and it can't be

1611
01:12:49,260 --> 01:12:52,380
decoded properly So but because what one of

1612
01:12:52,380 --> 01:12:53,540
the things I did was one of the

1613
01:12:53,540 --> 01:12:57,040
people that were hitting us Were you hard

1614
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,440
was using the sample code user agent string

1615
01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:01,200
mm-hmm?

1616
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,620
And and so that is something that I

1617
01:13:03,620 --> 01:13:05,900
don't allow that that we typically do not

1618
01:13:05,900 --> 01:13:08,740
allow We actually block sample codes of people

1619
01:13:08,740 --> 01:13:10,740
that just we don't I don't want people

1620
01:13:10,740 --> 01:13:12,680
hitting us that are anonymous, right?

1621
01:13:12,860 --> 01:13:15,500
they I'm gonna force them to use a

1622
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,780
Legitimate user agent string that identifies their application

1623
01:13:19,780 --> 01:13:22,260
and so that we know who they are,

1624
01:13:22,420 --> 01:13:22,580
right?

1625
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,100
Because that's just that's there's the only way

1626
01:13:27,100 --> 01:13:29,180
to keep sanity and keep everything running Well

1627
01:13:29,180 --> 01:13:31,280
as I have to be able to identify

1628
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,120
Okay, this person is doing this thing which

1629
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,460
is causing some problems And I need to

1630
01:13:37,460 --> 01:13:38,580
be able to know who that is so

1631
01:13:38,580 --> 01:13:40,000
I can contact them and say hey Can

1632
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:40,700
you back off?

1633
01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:41,340
Can you do this?

1634
01:13:41,380 --> 01:13:42,000
Can you do this?

1635
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,680
So I just need some I need some

1636
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,520
wiggle room there, so I'm I'm actually I

1637
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,560
got more aggressive with blocking now What happens

1638
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,640
is if you use?

1639
01:13:54,060 --> 01:13:58,760
I just put in some more Restrictions so

1640
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,440
if you use any sample any user agent

1641
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:04,600
strings from our sample code library or if

1642
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:09,660
you use something that's vague like A Python

1643
01:14:09,660 --> 01:14:15,200
HTTP library, that would be me Yeah Like

1644
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:21,640
a default library name, you know Anything like

1645
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:22,680
that kind of stuff?

1646
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,700
You're gonna get you get blocked with a

1647
01:14:25,700 --> 01:14:28,040
403 and in the response body of the

1648
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,140
403 It's gonna tell you what the problem

1649
01:14:30,140 --> 01:14:31,180
is so you can fix it.

1650
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,820
It's gonna say it says You're not allowed

1651
01:14:33,820 --> 01:14:37,920
to use vague Or sample code user agent

1652
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,760
strings Or default library user agent strings you

1653
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:47,900
must create a distinct identifiable app name And

1654
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:52,620
that will at least let me know What

1655
01:14:52,620 --> 01:14:54,940
this traffic is because if we have something

1656
01:14:54,940 --> 01:14:58,260
you know if if if somebody Here's another

1657
01:14:58,260 --> 01:14:59,700
thing that happens a lot on the API

1658
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,480
We get a lot of educational people that

1659
01:15:03,480 --> 01:15:08,340
are like doing You know postgraduate work, and

1660
01:15:08,340 --> 01:15:10,940
they'll want to Download a bunch of data

1661
01:15:10,940 --> 01:15:13,620
out of the API to do analysis on

1662
01:15:13,620 --> 01:15:14,780
which I think is great.

1663
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,760
Which is great I'm happy to provide that

1664
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,640
for them And they usually contact us because

1665
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,420
they want you know they do things right

1666
01:15:22,420 --> 01:15:26,100
yeah Yep, and so they'll contact us and

1667
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:26,360
say hey.

1668
01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:27,500
Here's what I want to do Can I

1669
01:15:27,500 --> 01:15:30,120
do this and you know yeah sure and

1670
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:31,480
but but then a lot of times They're

1671
01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:32,800
just you know they just create a script

1672
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,000
And they'll just you know I always tell

1673
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,640
them I was like do not scrape Don't

1674
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,760
go Feed ID one all the way through

1675
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,780
feed ID seven Please don't eight million, please

1676
01:15:42,780 --> 01:15:45,720
don't do this just download download the database

1677
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,660
right But they don't you know they don't

1678
01:15:48,660 --> 01:15:51,860
always get This and so they'll they'll there

1679
01:15:51,860 --> 01:15:53,360
are a lot of times what the source

1680
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,900
of this traffic is and I need to

1681
01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:58,060
I just need to know in advance name

1682
01:15:58,060 --> 01:16:02,620
your app like University of Michigan You know

1683
01:16:02,620 --> 01:16:06,020
Jimmy Whatever something so I can know that

1684
01:16:06,020 --> 01:16:07,960
you're Jimmy And this is what you're doing

1685
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,460
so that if you do something inadvertently that

1686
01:16:10,460 --> 01:16:12,380
hurts us I can I can contact you

1687
01:16:12,380 --> 01:16:14,820
and let you know So I think that

1688
01:16:14,820 --> 01:16:16,400
may have been the source of the issue

1689
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:21,340
Okay he says it has resolved and But

1690
01:16:21,340 --> 01:16:24,820
Alex from podcast guru said he was also

1691
01:16:24,820 --> 01:16:27,160
He thinks he was seeing the same issue,

1692
01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:29,200
and it was very it was rare, but

1693
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,300
it was it was showing up in the

1694
01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:35,080
logs So I'm hoping that resolves it, but

1695
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,020
if it doesn't I'll get back in there,

1696
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,020
and we'll figure something out That's another another

1697
01:16:40,020 --> 01:16:41,700
cry for help that I need on the

1698
01:16:42,820 --> 01:16:45,160
On that on the DevOps side is I

1699
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,800
need to put in I need and I

1700
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:55,500
need to finally put in some better Guardrails

1701
01:16:55,500 --> 01:17:01,740
No, it's We don't have we don't use

1702
01:17:01,740 --> 01:17:05,260
Redis as you're you know every at every

1703
01:17:07,460 --> 01:17:11,660
Every decision that we've made on the API

1704
01:17:11,660 --> 01:17:17,500
revolves around lack of Resources of course just

1705
01:17:17,500 --> 01:17:20,800
money you know It's purely all about keeping

1706
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,980
this thing as cheap as we can because

1707
01:17:22,980 --> 01:17:25,400
that's the way that we're gonna live forever

1708
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:32,520
and So What I mean anyone who works

1709
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:33,200
in a company?

1710
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,620
Have you ever heard your DevOps people say

1711
01:17:37,620 --> 01:17:39,640
we're trying to run this as cheaply as

1712
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:45,080
possible boss No, no no definitely not so

1713
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,940
hat tip to the pod sage Thank you,

1714
01:17:47,980 --> 01:17:52,080
brother wait well so You know what we

1715
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,380
would normally do what I would normally do

1716
01:17:54,380 --> 01:17:55,980
in a production server that I knew was

1717
01:17:55,980 --> 01:17:58,560
gonna be getting a lot of traffic is

1718
01:17:59,380 --> 01:18:04,620
Run run a Redis box which is in

1719
01:18:04,620 --> 01:18:06,720
you know is an in-memory database very

1720
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:10,360
fast and Then all the things that are

1721
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,220
like sort of bookkeeping work So like when

1722
01:18:14,220 --> 01:18:16,140
an API request comes in you want to

1723
01:18:16,140 --> 01:18:19,220
look up their authorization token Make sure it's

1724
01:18:19,220 --> 01:18:21,620
valid all this sort of bookkeeping work that

1725
01:18:21,620 --> 01:18:23,940
happens with every request You want to shift

1726
01:18:23,940 --> 01:18:26,620
that off to this fast in-memory database?

1727
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,540
like Redis That way you're not hitting your

1728
01:18:30,540 --> 01:18:32,880
main database for just a little nothing sort

1729
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,820
of insignificant traffic You're keeping it reserved for

1730
01:18:36,820 --> 01:18:38,920
the heavy hitter traffic, so you need me

1731
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,180
to create that ready date Redis database for

1732
01:18:41,180 --> 01:18:42,960
you Is that what you're asking is that

1733
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,160
the help you need you chat GPT that

1734
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,040
thing you can get that up and running

1735
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,880
Why don't we thank some people who have

1736
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,420
helped us keep this running since I'm not

1737
01:18:52,420 --> 01:18:56,920
sure I'm Conscious of your time in these

1738
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:00,540
thank you in these trying days So for

1739
01:19:00,540 --> 01:19:02,160
those who are new to the board meeting

1740
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,020
welcome Enjoy the doughnuts a little stale by

1741
01:19:05,020 --> 01:19:07,680
now, but okay the good doughnuts We run

1742
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,600
everything value for value the index the index

1743
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,760
node All of the sats that you boost

1744
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,700
us going to the node we open up

1745
01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:18,720
Channels of liquidity to anybody who needs it

1746
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,960
if you have an albie hub That has

1747
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,740
turned out to be kind of problematic because

1748
01:19:24,740 --> 01:19:27,120
people are using the LSP And then you

1749
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,780
don't actually have a publicly accessible node But

1750
01:19:29,780 --> 01:19:31,580
you know I think boomy and Maurits are

1751
01:19:31,580 --> 01:19:34,140
working on stuff, and so we're happy to

1752
01:19:34,140 --> 01:19:35,380
help But if you have your own node

1753
01:19:35,380 --> 01:19:36,680
at home We're happy to open up some

1754
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,520
liquidity to you and of course you can

1755
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,480
also go to podcast index org down at

1756
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:42,260
the bottom there's a big red donate button

1757
01:19:42,260 --> 01:19:44,460
that goes to our fiat fund coupons funnel,

1758
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:49,460
which is PayPal and Everything that you send

1759
01:19:49,460 --> 01:19:51,940
us goes into the into the kitty into

1760
01:19:51,940 --> 01:19:53,600
the bank account And we use it to

1761
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,980
continue the the life of and the life

1762
01:19:55,980 --> 01:19:58,500
cycle of podcast index, and we really appreciate

1763
01:19:58,500 --> 01:19:58,820
it.

1764
01:19:58,820 --> 01:20:02,400
We we got a seven seven seven seven

1765
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,060
a Mini striper boost from Dreb Scott.

1766
01:20:06,140 --> 01:20:08,020
He says boosting because I don't think I've

1767
01:20:08,020 --> 01:20:10,340
heard enough pews this episode go podcasting That's

1768
01:20:10,340 --> 01:20:13,060
right very low pewage the pewage is off

1769
01:20:13,060 --> 01:20:16,100
today Br with a thousand sats two for

1770
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:17,700
the price of one what could possibly go

1771
01:20:17,700 --> 01:20:19,680
wrong a micro strategy strategy.

1772
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,800
Yes Exactly yeah, Randy black 1321.

1773
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:25,940
How does any of this work running with

1774
01:20:25,940 --> 01:20:27,260
scissors and raw dog on it?

1775
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:32,080
That's how go podcasting Yeah Raw dog in

1776
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,560
it, baby Bro, no, thank you, Sam.

1777
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:35,980
Sassy.

1778
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,220
It's at the 3518 Boosting in from true

1779
01:20:39,220 --> 01:20:41,820
fans love that track sounds like Prince indeed.

1780
01:20:41,900 --> 01:20:46,880
We got lyceum Lyceum boosted in early and

1781
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,180
said I listened to the episode 10 of

1782
01:20:49,180 --> 01:20:53,120
Claire Waite Brown's podcast Podcasting 2.0 and

1783
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:53,500
practice.

1784
01:20:53,700 --> 01:20:54,760
Oh, yes guest Daniel J.

1785
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,100
Lewis talked about different use cases for super

1786
01:20:57,100 --> 01:21:00,320
chapters Yeah, he's changing the name super chapters.

1787
01:21:00,420 --> 01:21:03,380
I got inspired and searched on books about

1788
01:21:03,380 --> 01:21:06,040
astronomy and space science I stumbled upon a

1789
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,520
list of proper names on Wikipedia I look

1790
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,620
forward to listening to a podcast about astronomy

1791
01:21:10,620 --> 01:21:14,880
and cyberspace episode 1701 Atlas 27 Tauri I

1792
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,980
a1 Taurus Adam and Dave.

1793
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,320
How about stargazing events in Fredericksburg, Texas and

1794
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:21,040
Birmingham, Alabama?

1795
01:21:23,060 --> 01:21:27,440
Interesting you should say that Fredericksburg, Texas has

1796
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:31,680
low-light laws For this very really yes

1797
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,460
dark sky dark sky dark sky Yes for

1798
01:21:34,460 --> 01:21:37,240
this very reason people love walking outside in

1799
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:37,860
Fredericksburg.

1800
01:21:37,860 --> 01:21:40,360
And so neon is not allowed on Main

1801
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:45,480
Street and You're supposed to even Residential so

1802
01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:46,760
that people can look over the night and

1803
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,600
see the stars and you can gaze to

1804
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,320
your heart's content And we do have a

1805
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:50,520
club.

1806
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,900
We have a club out here that was

1807
01:21:52,900 --> 01:21:53,200
a call.

1808
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:53,880
What's the cold?

1809
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,280
I don't know what it's called the the

1810
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,420
Fredericksburg Stargazers Club probably something like that.

1811
01:21:59,500 --> 01:22:02,180
I think they meet at the airport On

1812
01:22:02,180 --> 01:22:03,880
certain days and I don't know about Birmingham,

1813
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:04,400
Alabama.

1814
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:05,520
Do you have any do you have any

1815
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,540
dark skies rules there?

1816
01:22:08,580 --> 01:22:11,980
We all just blasting just blasting everything No,

1817
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,520
it's it's no we're we're we just off

1818
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:16,700
the seat of the pants all the time.

1819
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:18,860
There's no rules here Yeah, you're lucky to

1820
01:22:18,860 --> 01:22:20,060
get a speeding ticket in Birmingham.

1821
01:22:20,460 --> 01:22:23,780
So that's all we got live and During

1822
01:22:23,780 --> 01:22:24,840
the pre-show Dave.

1823
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:25,940
What do you have on your list?

1824
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:34,040
Tom and Tom and the boys at buzzsprout

1825
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,900
They in spite of us giving them errors

1826
01:22:36,900 --> 01:22:38,220
on the API lookups.

1827
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:45,160
Give us $1,000 Thank you very much

1828
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,600
buzzsprout errs, we love you we appreciate you

1829
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,600
you are almost single-handedly keeping us alive

1830
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,920
But there are other people every single amount

1831
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,360
helps value for value every single even the

1832
01:22:56,360 --> 01:23:00,900
smallest Satoshi matters the Thank you, Tom.

1833
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,280
Thank you guys been and all the boys

1834
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,440
and girls over there and speaking of hosting

1835
01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:16,180
companies blue blueberry team comes in with Thank

1836
01:23:16,180 --> 01:23:20,000
You blueberry team Todd and the kids The

1837
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,460
blueberry team is head down and cranking away

1838
01:23:22,460 --> 01:23:27,260
go podcast indeed I'll hit it for that.

1839
01:23:27,380 --> 01:23:28,380
Give us 300 bucks.

1840
01:23:28,500 --> 01:23:31,880
I'll hit a go podcasting for you You'll

1841
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:32,180
hit it.

1842
01:23:32,180 --> 01:23:32,720
I'll hit it.

1843
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,620
I'll hit it by the way.

1844
01:23:34,740 --> 01:23:36,220
Oh, I don't know how this got in

1845
01:23:36,220 --> 01:23:36,380
here.

1846
01:23:36,380 --> 01:23:40,560
But this is a Renewed our DMCA agent

1847
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:40,860
thing.

1848
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:41,900
It was about to expire.

1849
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,960
Oh Agent registration with the copyright office.

1850
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:46,900
Oh, okay.

1851
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:47,300
Good.

1852
01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:50,000
I had to transfer it out of Eric's

1853
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,860
email address to ours I got that off.

1854
01:23:51,940 --> 01:23:53,340
I need to send you these credentials.

1855
01:23:53,340 --> 01:23:55,880
You have to do this through login gov

1856
01:23:56,620 --> 01:24:00,000
Yes, because I saw like you've changed your

1857
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,580
password on login gov.

1858
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,720
I'm immediately like oh crap Somebody's trying to

1859
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,580
hack into my or change your phone number

1860
01:24:06,580 --> 01:24:08,320
or something like that Someone's trying to hack

1861
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,340
into my login gov, which is bad because

1862
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that's your TSA number in your hole That'll

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soon be your digital ID.

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01:24:15,220 --> 01:24:17,460
No doubt So you would do I figured

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you would because I saw then that was

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info podcasting next org.

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01:24:20,380 --> 01:24:23,940
So I figured okay Yeah, yeah, how how

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01:24:23,940 --> 01:24:27,000
I ended up changing this I Still don't

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01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:27,700
know somehow.

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01:24:27,820 --> 01:24:29,580
It just it didn't work didn't work didn't

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work.

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And then it just worked.

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01:24:31,140 --> 01:24:34,440
I don't know Yeah, login gov sucks banana

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01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:36,180
balls Let me tell you that it does

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01:24:36,180 --> 01:24:38,720
because there's certain points like oh, you've tried

1876
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,040
too many times come back in 48 hours

1877
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,620
It's got all kinds of it's buggy.

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01:24:43,620 --> 01:24:45,260
It's just you know, what do you know?

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01:24:45,300 --> 01:24:47,640
What's also a scam is ID dot me.

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01:24:47,860 --> 01:24:49,180
Oh, we stay away from that.

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01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:50,860
Stay away from that There's a lot of

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01:24:50,860 --> 01:24:53,520
you can't you can't I mean like, oh,

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01:24:53,540 --> 01:24:55,540
I mean they have like exclusive contracts with

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01:24:55,540 --> 01:24:56,940
government He's now real.

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01:24:57,140 --> 01:25:01,060
Oh, yeah, Social Security Administration No way you

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01:25:01,060 --> 01:25:02,620
have to use ID done me.

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01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:03,000
Yes.

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Yes.

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01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,940
I haven't forced down that path yet How

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01:25:06,940 --> 01:25:09,420
they've done that with a private company I

1891
01:25:09,420 --> 01:25:12,660
have is, you know pure But there's also

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01:25:12,660 --> 01:25:14,640
other scams people who are trying to get

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01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,660
an ESTA an ESTA visa Which is what

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01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:20,380
you need to know.

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01:25:20,420 --> 01:25:21,940
I know what's the one in Europe the

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01:25:21,940 --> 01:25:24,060
the opposite way So now in Europe you

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have to pay it's supposed to be 21

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buck.

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01:25:26,340 --> 01:25:27,100
No, it was asked.

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01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,620
I'm sorry ESTA which if you're coming from

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outside the US need to get a visa

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01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,560
and it's it was $17 now It's 21

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01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,260
and someone emailed me and said I paid

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01:25:36,260 --> 01:25:37,000
90 bucks.

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01:25:37,140 --> 01:25:37,760
What a ripoff.

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01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,400
I said, did you use a dot-gov?

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01:25:40,580 --> 01:25:41,340
Oh crap.

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01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:42,960
He said I went through some other service

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01:25:43,700 --> 01:25:45,880
And they jack up the price from 21

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01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:46,540
to 90.

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01:25:46,540 --> 01:25:48,160
So you got to be real careful It's

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01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:49,760
a lot of scams, you know, the Internet

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01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,140
was kind of a bad idea when you

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01:25:51,140 --> 01:25:52,680
think about it No, it was a terrible

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01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:53,040
idea.

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01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,980
We need to go back Back to bake

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01:25:55,980 --> 01:26:00,640
-a-lite sticks sticks We got some boost

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01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,200
Farrell Jeremy sent us in us 3,000

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01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,360
sass the fountain he says He says James

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01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,420
Spann is a no agenda listener.

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01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,120
Also, you know, that's the that's our local

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01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,820
weather guy Really how do we know this

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01:26:15,820 --> 01:26:17,340
man doesn't know he's a no agenda listener.

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01:26:17,380 --> 01:26:19,560
Also, he knows every small town and crossroads

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01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:20,360
in the state Of Alabama.

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01:26:20,460 --> 01:26:22,940
Yes, he does nice the the most famous

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01:26:23,660 --> 01:26:28,360
Video of James Spann is he's talking about

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01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:28,540
it.

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01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,100
He's doing live.

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01:26:30,420 --> 01:26:33,380
He's covering live a tornado that's coming through,

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Alabama And he's talking about the path is

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01:26:36,900 --> 01:26:40,380
taking and he's naming every single little little

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01:26:40,380 --> 01:26:43,760
like Hamlet and Berg every one of them

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01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,560
of by memory off of this off of

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01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,440
this thing and then he throws in a

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01:26:49,180 --> 01:26:50,920
He's like it's coming through your town's come

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01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:51,460
through your town.

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01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,340
Hey everybody at Wesley's booby-trap, that's a

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01:26:54,340 --> 01:26:54,860
strip club.

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01:26:54,920 --> 01:27:04,420
It's coming at you Landmark classic Thank You

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01:27:04,420 --> 01:27:07,700
Farrell Jeremy gene being 2222 through castamatic He

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01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:09,840
says regarding what Sam was talking about HLS

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01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,900
can also be plugged into a CDN if

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01:27:11,900 --> 01:27:13,560
you happen to need that level of concurrent

1945
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,120
listeners It's it's where a lot of things

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01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,380
in television industry are going so I can

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01:27:19,380 --> 01:27:20,400
see why it would be a good fit

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01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:21,700
for the Audio side too.

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01:27:21,860 --> 01:27:22,160
Hmm.

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01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:23,860
Okay Interesting.

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01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,480
Well, we are seeing radio stations in the

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01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:27,400
wild using it.

1953
01:27:27,900 --> 01:27:30,860
Mm-hmm Gene being again 2222.

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01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,400
He says Dave in case you haven't already

1955
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,180
seen it on Mastodon I finally gotten around

1956
01:27:34,180 --> 01:27:36,940
to setting up some additional monitoring beyond uptime

1957
01:27:36,940 --> 01:27:39,100
Kuma and happy to extend my monitoring alerting

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01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:40,720
related to the index Thank you.

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01:27:40,900 --> 01:27:41,160
Gene.

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01:27:41,300 --> 01:27:44,480
Yes, I did see this and I'm getting

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01:27:45,480 --> 01:27:48,700
Your notifications and Archie's notifications and it is

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01:27:48,700 --> 01:27:49,660
very helpful.

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01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,580
Thank you Yes, Kiwi the boobies Wesley's booby

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01:27:53,580 --> 01:27:54,620
-trap is a strip club.

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01:27:54,660 --> 01:27:55,520
Yes case.

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01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,940
You didn't understand the story Yes, what a

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01:27:57,940 --> 01:27:59,700
great a great name great name.

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01:27:59,780 --> 01:28:01,000
Yeah, I think that's the show title.

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01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,560
That's our show title right there The booby

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01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:03,620
-trap Wesley's booby-trap.

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01:28:03,660 --> 01:28:04,820
No, just the booby-trap.

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01:28:04,860 --> 01:28:09,160
Yeah Booby-trap Dwebb sent us 2500.

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01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,780
He says through true fans.

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01:28:11,900 --> 01:28:14,960
He says Curated feeds in a constant stream

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01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,640
could really work for publishers It's it could

1976
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,780
easily be automated with the handovers between podcasts

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01:28:20,780 --> 01:28:23,740
for example I imagine something like a pushkin

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01:28:23,740 --> 01:28:25,720
live stream Where you could have all the

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01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,640
pushing content on a single stream with automated

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01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:31,120
bumpers and handovers even sponsorships Between programs you

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01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,680
could have a special link that allows you

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01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,480
to go from the live stream To the

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01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:36,320
same time in the actual podcast episode a

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01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:36,920
lot of chapters.

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01:28:37,060 --> 01:28:39,460
He's Yeah, that's a cool idea.

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01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,560
That's real similar to what that that's a

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01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:43,700
similar idea to what?

1988
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,340
Jupiter broadcasting is doing with the Jupiter station

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01:28:48,340 --> 01:28:51,700
their lives It's it's all their shows in

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01:28:51,700 --> 01:28:53,640
a live linear format.

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01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:55,660
Yeah a linear format automated.

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01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:55,920
Yep.

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01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,760
Yep, cool I Like the idea of saying

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01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,180
okay click and that takes you to the

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01:29:01,180 --> 01:29:03,220
podcast and then you're at that very spot

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01:29:03,220 --> 01:29:05,040
in the podcast That's that's pretty bad.

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01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:07,180
That's I like that Yeah, I like it

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01:29:07,180 --> 01:29:07,440
too.

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01:29:07,700 --> 01:29:08,520
Yeah, let's see.

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01:29:08,620 --> 01:29:09,520
We can't that's okay.

2001
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:10,300
You already read that one.

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01:29:10,380 --> 01:29:11,920
So we got the delimiter Here we go.

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01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,940
Tom comes for a blogger 14 to 50

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01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,340
through fountain he says How do you Dave

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01:29:17,340 --> 01:29:17,640
and Adam?

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01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,880
Do you need a short form podcast to

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01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:20,700
help fill time?

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Become informed on a wide variety of topics

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and spark new ideas Check out a walk

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through the mind with Billy Bones That's within

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three instead of an e at Billy bone

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01:29:33,140 --> 01:29:37,420
3s calm over 300 episodes to get you

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01:29:37,420 --> 01:29:40,120
started pick a title that sounds interesting and

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hit play Billy bones Calm with a three

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instead of an e take a walk through

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the mind Yo, CSB.

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Hey, that was a big rhymer there.

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Nice.

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Thank you comics for blogger on every single

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podcast He shows up and he's promoting other

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01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:59,920
podcasts is a very valuable booster Now now

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with broccoli All splits are green like my

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01:30:04,780 --> 01:30:06,040
broccoli, that's right.

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That's right.

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Beautiful get monthlies.

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We got Lauren ball $24 20 cents.

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Thank you Satan's lawyer Trevor down under at

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That's our group.

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01:30:27,380 --> 01:30:29,160
Thank you all so much for supporting the

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podcast index.

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01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,540
And of course the subsequent board meeting Thank

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01:30:32,540 --> 01:30:34,820
you boardroom for being with us today.

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01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:36,420
We went through a lot.

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01:30:36,540 --> 01:30:38,080
You heard the cries for help.

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01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,520
So if you feel so moved please reach

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01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,700
out to David podcast index org and And

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01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:47,020
now is a perfect time for me to

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01:30:47,020 --> 01:30:50,960
go probe my meat, how about you I'll

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01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,140
let you take care of your meat.

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01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:54,660
I'll take care of my okay.

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01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:58,680
All right Have a good weekend brother Dave

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01:31:00,980 --> 01:31:02,760
Everybody in the boardroom will see you next

2046
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:22,680
week right here on podcast Oh

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Thanks for not boosting everybody