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The code was ants.

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak

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and Sunday January 8 2017. This
is your award winning give on

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nation media assassination
Episode Eight Niner. Three This

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is no agenda, reading
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broadcasting live from the

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darkest corners of the internet
here and FEMA ringtone six

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Austin Tejas the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon
Valley, we're being pounded by

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the Pineapple Express. And John
C. Dvorak.

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Buzzkill.

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The Pineapple Express. Wasn't
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McFarland, Seth Rogen and Rogen,
Seth Rogen, yeah.

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Seth Green.

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What is the Pineapple Express?

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It's a cool it's a front that
comes in it brings moisture in

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from the Hawaiian area in the
south and it comes to mixing

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mixes with something else and it
just drops a lot of moisture. We

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had two inches of rain last
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Oh my goodness. There's a lot
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was that just Northern
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pounded?

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Everybody's getting pounded.

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You know that wide swath
mudslides, mudslides

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areas are definitely will be
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Well, the weather is is crazy
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in Austin. Not right now. But
overnight it was

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really? Yeah, make sure you have
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What? You don't even know about
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I mean, I mean an apartment
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drifting I call maintenance.
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have here. Europe though is Wow,
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warming over there

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as a Big Freeze grips Europe the
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increasingly desperate at
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in Belgrade. Those unable or
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shelters shiver in temperatures
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Celsius in Bulgaria. Blizzards
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migrants froze to death and the
biting cold. Then there are

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those struggling to keep warm on
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Currently the situation on Samos
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worrying on Samos Around 700
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children and other especially
vulnerable individuals. These

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people are in unheated tents in
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Center.

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Well, this camp on less boss
does have heating the UN's

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refugee agency wants migrants
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quickly transferred to the
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countries or mid cold
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seeing snow for the first time
offering a chance to play for

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children and adults alike. Yeah,
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you go. It's incredible because
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it's been like 1112 years ago.
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would never see snow except in
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That's what they reported. Yeah.
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numerous times.

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This is pretty prominent
climatologist who quit her

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university Georgia Tech

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and she's finally fed up I don't
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talk to these people privately
most vault most all of them are

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just they feel you know, cowed
by the whole thing. It's a no

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it's actually an it's a scam.
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climatologist had been following
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she had a blog with an RSS feed
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every day for years. I've been
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course. She's not related, but
because of her name. Check her

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I'll follow her.

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I'll follow her. Yeah. Her and
Brittany. You want to hear a

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little bit of her Tucker Carlson
hat Carlson had her on?

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I it would be. It would be
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did kind of hits everything
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the 97% thing, although she has
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But here she is. She's professor
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resigned. Dr. Currie joins us
now. Professor Craig, thanks

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for coming on tonight.

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That's kind of a ring to it,
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curry. Yes. You're welcome,
Tucker. I'm happy to be here.

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joins us now. Professor Craig,
thanks for coming on tonight. It

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was a pleasure.

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Well, thank you it is for me. So
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the problem with climate
science, not just to your

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school, but at others is that
research money only goes to

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researchers pursuing certain
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they're all the same and that
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have happening. Am I
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I'm not really but what you're
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theme of human caused climate
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the research and the focus is
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too little Funding and effort
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climate variability. That's my
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Right. So is that for those who
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debate, not whether temperatures
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they always have, but over
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exactly No. And it's clearly
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for overall for several 100
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much of the recent warming say
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caused by humans? Right. And my
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is that we really can't tell and
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is being caused by humans
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do you believe you are penalized
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Oh, I've been vilified by some
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activists and don't like
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the, their big story. So I mean,
I walk around with knife

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sticking out of my back. And,
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environment, I just felt like I
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wall, and not being effective.
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of unfettered research, freedom
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open debate, diverse
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certain fields, you know, that
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definitely not seeing that

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the research you're doing in
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who described as activists are
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in a way that affects every
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stakes are really high. No,

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the stakes are very high.
Personally, I think I can have

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more of an impact outside of the
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sector, sort of free market
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I thought that was an
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their free market academic
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Tucker asked the final important
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Let me ask you this. When you
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that you just asked, to what
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driven by natural factors that
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extent by human activity? People
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derided as climate deniers?
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Well, my response is, we really
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are contributing something. We
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evidence that I've seen, I don't
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You may have you may have, you
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TV, because 98% of scientists
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you must be in the 2%. Right.

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Ironically, the way those The
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consensus that yes, it's
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to it. I mean, everybody agrees
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disagreement that is really
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I am a little confused by her
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She said that she agrees that
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have some something, something
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such a minor something that it
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she was saying you'd have to put
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specious. Those the things that
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by me. I'd expected her to
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you think she would, but she's I
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beaten down. She's got knives
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Getting nice sticking out of
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from their bit from from the
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big story. I kind of like that.
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We got people pay no attention
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store asking us questions. Let's
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rock and roll, baby. Exactly.
That sounds pretty. That's

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pretty funny. Everything about
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All right. Well, there's a lot
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want us to get just get started
with we got backgrounders on the

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Russian report. The reports the
big deal. Yeah, they came out

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and Trump apparently had his
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this this Adam Schiff character.
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he back on the scene complaining
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Yeah, I think I have two clips
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Okay, so the general background
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version of the assessment from
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the intelligence a new reports a

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new final. I know it's a new
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said it's, it said it's an
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absolutely correct. Yes. Which I
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unclassified version and it's,

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I knew you would, and so I
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it's of course it's marked up.
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though. Because the newsletter
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mean, yeah, of course I'd I
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oh, yeah, John saying Adam was
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everything going. Well, so I go
pull the report newsletters

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goading you. That's right. So
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this out. I was so proud.
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Alabama, had already pulled the
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in multiple colors, with commas
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actually. And I was like, wow,
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is this has got you off the
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is this is what true. Listener
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Before we go into that, I think
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get a feeling for what the media
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let's start with a negative
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from our tea, who's just taking
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let's play this is Larry Johnson
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who's always on he's one of the
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he has a beard? No, he's got no
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isn't another guy. You've seen
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for RT. He's one of the regular
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state sponsored media. You mean,
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has, as one of our ex agents
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it's so meta to have a report
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tea with former CIA agents in my
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bond designed to

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discredit us intelligence. Well,
you never know. But former CIA

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officer Larry Johnson says
regardless, it is an

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embarrassment to the US
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no facts underlying this, there
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you can tell that because
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like we assess that, or we
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that well, that means they don't
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community are coordinated with
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This one was only so called
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NSA. Now what's so curious about
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they said, Oh, yeah, we all
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interference, except it was only
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agreed. But NSA, who should have
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group that would actually have
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hacking, if it existed? is the
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judgments moderate, it's a joke.
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I'm a Russian intelligence
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your intelligence services
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suspicious to think what are the
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can't be this stupid. And let me
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side of the ledger, yeah, they
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me as well. It's not 17
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this report. So if any, if you
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channels, that saying all all 17
That's not true. It is only CIA,

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FBI and DHS who DHS indeed say,
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confidence, was it? I thought it
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you're right. That that was FBI.
Hold on. Let me see. I mean, let

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me double check the document
now. Now. I'm confused. Hold on.

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D DHS was the original one. On
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Yeah, you're right. And clapper.
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he he's actually not named in
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But that agency that he runs he
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no. AI is not in the document.

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It doesn't have the symbol of
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No, no, it only mean is that NSA
is the one that here let's

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listen to the whole report. From
NBC the you know, who's gonna

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give us government the
government angle. This is the

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clip of CIA hacking report,
Russia, Ms. Or an NBC

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misreporting. There's a lot of
bad reporting in this report,

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which is supposed to be the best
intelligence

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officials briefed him on their
top secret report about Russia's

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hacks during the election.
Following weeks of dismissals

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from Mr. Trump. A declassified
version of that report is now

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out. It claims Vladimir Putin
himself ordered the hack, in

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part to help Mr. Trump win. And
BCS Kristen Welker has a

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response from the president
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off the bat. That is not the
conclusion. It says it could

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only have been In one person if
it was at the top of the Russian

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if it went all the way to the
top of the Russian governor,

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no, you're wrong. You're
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sorry, Putin.

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I'm sorry. What am I thinking I
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the right.

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To our showdown at Trump Tower,
the president elect to face with

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the nation's top intelligence
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disparaging Trump calling the
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the explosive details of their
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afternoon. Their key findings
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ordered an influence campaign in
2016 and developed a clear

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preference for President elect
Trump. Putin and the Russian

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government aspired to help
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chances when possible by
discrediting Secretary Clinton,

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but the Russian hacking didn't
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for weeks questioned the
conclusion Russia was

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responsible could be somebody
sitting in his bed, and today

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still refuse to single out
Russia. Instead, Mr. Trump

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saying in a statement, Russia,
China and other countries are

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engaged in cyber attacks and
insisted there was absolutely no

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effect on the outcome of the
election. Late tonight top

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Democrats firing back it is

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beyond time for the president
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everyone else has. And if this
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enough to convince him nothing.

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The meeting kept a week of
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before the briefing started.
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the focus on Russian hacking is
a witch hunt by his political

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adversaries. Still, in their
report tonight, the nation's top

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intelligence officials, the FBI,
CIA, NSA and the Director of

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National Intelligence say
they're all in agreement,

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concluding with high confidence
Russia's efforts including

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hacking propaganda, my efforts
to undermine American democracy,

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democracy Mr. Trump will soon
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Yeah, that's not true. Because
they didn't all say hi comp, by

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the way, there's a in the,

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by the way, before you say that
every single network said that,

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yeah,

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that lie or liars? There's a
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shows the percentages of
likelihood based upon the

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verbiage from remote highly
probable, and probable.

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Actually, it has has almost no
chance very unlikely, unlikely,

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roughly even chance likely very
likely, almost certainly, which

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corresponds with probable highly
probable, nearly certain so they

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both said highly. Probable Wait,
no, no. What did they actually

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say? This is interesting. The
language they used was God, this

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is like we got to go through
some of this report. We you and

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I could have done a better
report than these jabroni has

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put together same information.
high confidence, okay, high

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confidence and high confidence
in their little chart here to

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explain that, I guess would be
under highly probable that's

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80%. Likely is 70%. And the
moderate would be at 60%. So

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it's not even 90% It's not even
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Good enough.

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Yeah. Yeah. Good enough. Do you
want to go through some of this

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report? Do you ever want to do
some more background or I want

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to do more background so with
the report can have more impact?

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Okay. Because this was so off
the rails this whole thing?

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Let's listen to for example, I
have way too many clips of this

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stuff, because it just was
beyond me.

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I would say so you didn't read
the report at all?

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You guys decided not to okay,
because I knew you were gonna go

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over with a fine tooth comb so I
can be flabbergasted. Oh, you

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will be? Yeah, okay. Good.
That's what I'm looking for. All

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right. I want to I want to I
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collaborate. Yeah. I'm gonna
flabbergast you hard.

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So let's go over. Okay, let's
go. Let's start with this

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horrible clip Shields and Brooks
on PBS. And they go on with the

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lies about everything. Everyone
agrees me this is very much like

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the Global Warming scam. Very
much like it and they have

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Shields and Brooks. Both of them
kind of denouncing. I don't know

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why Brooks is even on the show.
What's the point of having these

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two guys in a

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really? You really don't like
him? Y'all you always complained

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about him being fake. Not just

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like, what's the point of two
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and that Trump's a douchebag.
Right. I want to hear you know

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somebody else I don't want to
hear somebody just eat yo yo

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whatever he says. Yeah, I agree.
And this thing with the Russian

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thing is completely out of
control with these two. And

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let's play this. I got two of
these clips is one of them and

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the long one played along with
arches.

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I think and In this sense that
the intelligence community said

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it made these findings with high
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weapons of mass destruction era
decision on invading Iraq, the

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intelligence community's been
very, very careful to avoid high

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confidence that is that saying
we really believe this to be

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true. There's been a more
tentative there's no question

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that we're unequivocal emphatic
every American ought to be angry

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or to be concerned that an
unfriendly nation a nation that

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does that has cooperated with a
certain places but does not wish

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us well. It sought to sabotage
American democracy and market

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confidence in our own democratic
institutions, and to influence

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the outcome of the election. I
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concern, and, and worry and
anger. And I would hope that

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would respond not as Democrats
or Republicans, but as Americans

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to make sure it never happens
again,

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David, how should Americans,

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I agree with that with anger
with Sj, I

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agree with anger. Hey,

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let's rock against anger.

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We should do agree with that. I
agree with that with anger,

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we should have a celebrity
concert against anger. Look at

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this.

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I agree with that with anger
with shock. We're sort of used

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to the idea of anger and usually
anger but the idea that Russia

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felt emboldened and apparently
fearless to go into our election

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and manipulate our own election
process, whether successful or

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not, is a sign that they are
outside the norms of normal

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society. There's always
statecraft is always

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disinformation. But this is a
step up a Russia that feels

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Putin feels completely free to
do this, without fear of

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penalty, and so far paying
little penalty. Partly it's

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motivated, I think, by animus
toward Hillary Clinton, as we

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heard earlier in the program,
she said in 2011 2012, partly,

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frankly, a desire belief that
Donald Trump will be tougher on

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ISIS. But the thing that should
most concern us is a shift in

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American foreign policy. We've
had a bipartisan belief in

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American foreign policy based on
the post world war two

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institutions that believed in
democratic global world, which

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Russia and the Soviet Union was
often seen as hostile to, and

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most Republicans and Democrats
have always pleased typically

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believed in this world order.
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and maybe Marine LePen do not
agree with this basic structure

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of the world.

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What did Marine LePen have to do
with this all of a sudden? Why

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do you bring her in? He tells me
Hey, Buddy muscles you brought

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in here to builders while he was
No, but you could tell he wanted

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to,

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not again, that was interest
hostile to and most Republicans

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and come back a little more. Let
me go to based on the post world

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war two institutions that
believed in democratic global

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world, which Russia and the
Soviet Union, a

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democratic global world, really
that's what it led to,

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that believed in democratic
global world, which Russia and

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the Soviet Union was often seen
as hostile to, and most

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Republicans and Democrats have
always pleased typically

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believed in this world order.
Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin

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and maybe Marine LePen do not
agree with this basic structure

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of the world. They seem to have
no respect for the institutions

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that were created after World
War Two. And they see a

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potential alliance of populace
around the world who would fight

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Islam and restore certain
semblance of traditional values.

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Oh, what a horrible thing to do.
Well, we don't want that we say

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globalist.

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I had no idea

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of Taiwan any of that one world
order globalist Yeah, most

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Democrats and Republicans
believe in the New World Order.

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He said it World War world
order, he said, but

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he said world order. Yeah, well,
it's not new anymore. George HW

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Bush coined it that was some
time back so it's not do ya. Do

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then

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you want to play this? I have
something just to kind of slip

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in play. Alright. CBS and CNN. I
had no they took they had a good

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take on the report.
Surprisingly, I'm not quite sure

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why. On CNN, it's Smerconish.
That's the guy who does the

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media show. And he also had on
Sunday think former CIA guy but

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just listen, listen to how he is
skeptical of the report,

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Russian President Vladimir Putin
ordered an influence campaign

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aimed at boosting Donald Trump
and harming Hillary Clinton.

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That's what US intelligence
found and what they told the

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president on Thursday and the
President Elect on Friday. After

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being briefed, Trump released a
statement saying the outcome

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wasn't altered, and his tweet
blamed Democrats for their own

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vulnerability. Then last night
came the release of a

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declassified public version,
which left me wanting more,

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having a president elect at odds
with his intelligence community

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forces the public to have to
choose sides but we don't have

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enough to go on. No, it doesn't
as one who suspects poopoo it

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does didn't cause the hacking. I
was nevertheless disappointed in

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Reading the declassified report
due to its lack of specificity.

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And when I said so last night
via Twitter, man, the immediate

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harsh response was indicative of
how in this case our

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partisanship doesn't stop at our
borders. I tweeted last night

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quote, where's the beef?
Somebody please direct me

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to the Hello 1983 Where's the
beef? But okay, please direct me

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to the evidence.

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I want to see more. And my
observation costs something of a

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tweetstorm classified Holy S.
Dang, I used to like you, but

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you jumped on the crazy train or
I've been done with this Nazi in

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sheep's clothing months ago.
Smerconish has been a Trumper

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since day one. And I won't be
watching this weekend. Really,

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it

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was really interesting, because,
you know, he kind of had the

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same that we had, you know, you
can't be critical of the message

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regardless of what the message
is. And in this case, he was

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saying, Yeah, I don't know, man,
I'm missing a little bit. And

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then people immediately call him
a douchebag. And a Trump lover.

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Hold on, hold on. It's not done
yet. I want to bring into the

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CAC I have a topper. Yeah, you
can top me in a moment

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months ago. Smerconish has been
a Trumper since day one. And I

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will be watching this weekend
really reached a point where a

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demand for answers earn such
disdain. Yes. Here's how I

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followed up. I want an email. I
want to text an affidavit and

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intercept something. Yeah. I'm a
trial lawyer, and ideal in

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evidence, not generalities.
people accuse me of doubting the

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findings. I don't. But given the
stakes, I want

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proof. This guy is cruising for
a job on RT. That's for sure.

453
00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:41,670
Not just assessment. Yeah.
Joining me now the man with the

454
00:26:41,670 --> 00:26:46,260
expertise, the former director
of the CIA and NSA, whose memoir

455
00:26:46,260 --> 00:26:50,190
is titled playing to the edge.
General Michael Hayden joins me

456
00:26:50,190 --> 00:26:51,840
now. General, our buddy. Yeah.

457
00:26:52,169 --> 00:26:55,439
All right. You know, you need to
hear something from him. Can we?

458
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:57,390
The public? Be sure.

459
00:26:58,410 --> 00:27:02,010
Well, Michael, you raised great
questions and welcome to my

460
00:27:02,010 --> 00:27:04,290
water broke into my brugia.

461
00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:09,120
Welcome to my woods. Yeah.

462
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:13,740
Well, Michael, you raised great
questions, and frankly, welcome

463
00:27:13,740 --> 00:27:16,470
to my world or welcome to my old
world.

464
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,860
I think he wanted to say my new
world order, but he came up

465
00:27:19,890 --> 00:27:22,800
wardrobe wardrobe. Welcome to my
wardrobe.

466
00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:26,670
Welcome to my old world in which
an awful lot of the things

467
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,600
I want to hear the whole thing.
But a douche.

468
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,760
Well, Michael, you raise great
questions, and frankly, welcome

469
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,160
to my world or wardrobe. My old

470
00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:41,160
would you like to try my bow my
wardrobe, which an

471
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,170
awful lot of the things we know,
can't be shared? Because we need

472
00:27:46,170 --> 00:27:49,260
to keep going back to this well,
in the future when I see

473
00:27:49,260 --> 00:27:51,540
this is the big thing. And
you're going to read that in the

474
00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:53,460
report as well. You know,
there's a lot of things we

475
00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:57,210
really just can't share like
proof because that would ruin

476
00:27:57,210 --> 00:28:01,440
the whole our whole system and
our our statecraft and our the

477
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,660
way we do things, so we can't
actually show you the proof

478
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:06,090
because that would be
compromising our means

479
00:28:06,660 --> 00:28:10,380
to learn things to keep America
safe. Now, look, I really same

480
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:14,430
document last year was the same
sense of disappointment. I

481
00:28:14,430 --> 00:28:18,240
probably had a little more
understanding as to why it was a

482
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,500
brick short of a load.

483
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:23,550
More understanding because he's
more knowledgeable.

484
00:28:23,580 --> 00:28:26,640
Yes, it was a brick short of a
load though. I hadn't heard this

485
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,280
term. I like that a brick short
of a load. We can before you

486
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:38,040
taught me. I want to play it's
much shorter. CBS the morning

487
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,890
crew. There was Charlie and Nora
and Gail.

488
00:28:41,070 --> 00:28:44,970
Oh, hold on a second. You don't
know why am I why am I tapping?

489
00:28:44,970 --> 00:28:47,520
I'm topping you about being
condemned.

490
00:28:48,030 --> 00:28:51,690
Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, then let's
then top me with that. Yeah, cuz

491
00:28:51,690 --> 00:28:54,120
the guy see, the second part
didn't make any sense because of

492
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,780
the topper. Got it. Now. Do we
go back the guy was condemned by

493
00:28:57,780 --> 00:29:00,900
his colleagues. He's a Trump
bar. He's this and he's that.

494
00:29:00,930 --> 00:29:06,330
Yeah. Well, none of this comes
close to what happened to Glenn

495
00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:08,280
Greenwald. Your buddy.

496
00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:12,120
Hold on. Hold on a second. Why
is he my buddy?

497
00:29:13,230 --> 00:29:15,480
Well, cuz you'd like to call
them something else. I can't

498
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,150
remember what you call them.
grand, grand grand grand Rob.

499
00:29:18,150 --> 00:29:22,080
Don't rock primary. Well, yeah,
that's that guy. Okay, buddy.

500
00:29:22,110 --> 00:29:25,980
Yeah. Glenn, this is the I got a
bunch of greenwall clips. But

501
00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:29,250
this is the Glenn Greenwald
intro to attacks.

502
00:29:29,850 --> 00:29:32,400
Okay, because yeah, he's
getting, he's getting.

503
00:29:35,220 --> 00:29:37,980
Yes, I've done some, you know,
pretty controversial and

504
00:29:37,980 --> 00:29:42,210
polarizing reporting in the past
decade, when I've been writing

505
00:29:42,210 --> 00:29:44,970
about politics. And when you do
that you obviously get attacked

506
00:29:44,970 --> 00:29:48,060
in lots of different ways. It's
not just me, it's everybody who

507
00:29:48,060 --> 00:29:51,000
engages. It's just sort of the
rough and tumble of politics and

508
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,360
journalism. But I really haven't
experienced anything even

509
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,810
remotely like the smear campaign
that has been launched by

510
00:29:58,020 --> 00:30:00,540
Democrats in this really
coordinated way. Ever since I

511
00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:04,500
began just expressing skepticism
about the prevailing narrative

512
00:30:04,530 --> 00:30:09,060
over Russia and its role that it
allegedly played in the

513
00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:11,970
election, and in particular in
helping to defeat Hillary

514
00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:15,540
Clinton, I mean, not even the
reporting I did, based on the

515
00:30:15,540 --> 00:30:18,420
Edward Snowden archive, which is
extremely controversial in

516
00:30:18,420 --> 00:30:22,110
multiple countries around the
world, not even that compared to

517
00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:25,920
to the attacks now. And the
reason is, is very, very

518
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,970
obvious, which is that it is
become exceptionally important

519
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,020
to democratic partisans to
believe that the reason they

520
00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:37,890
lost this election is not
because they chose a candidate

521
00:30:37,890 --> 00:30:41,220
who was corrupt and who was
extremely disliked and who

522
00:30:41,220 --> 00:30:44,850
symbolized all of the worst
failings of the Democratic

523
00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:48,360
Party. It's extremely important
to them not to face what is

524
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,750
really a systemic collapse on
the part of the Democratic Party

525
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:54,630
as a political force in the
United States, and the House and

526
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:57,210
the Senate and state houses and
governorships all over the

527
00:30:57,210 --> 00:31:01,770
country. And so in order not to
face any of that and have to

528
00:31:01,770 --> 00:31:05,160
confront their own failings,
they instead want to focus

529
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:08,340
everything on Vladimir Putin and
Russia and insist that the

530
00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:12,450
reason they lost was because
this big, bad dictator

531
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:15,360
interfered in the election and
anyone who challenges or anyone

532
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,540
who questions that instantly
becomes not just their enemy,

533
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:21,390
but now according to their
framework, someone who's

534
00:31:21,390 --> 00:31:25,440
actually unpatriotic that that
if you question the evidence,

535
00:31:25,740 --> 00:31:28,290
the sufficiency of the evidence
to support this theory that

536
00:31:28,290 --> 00:31:31,890
somehow your loyalties are
suspect that you're not just a

537
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:35,880
critic of the Democratic Party,
you're actually a stooge of or

538
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,600
an agent of the Kremlin. And
obviously, we've seen this

539
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,570
rhetoric for decades during the
Cold War, although back then it

540
00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:43,590
was the far right.

541
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,280
I'm really happy. He jumped into
this. This is exactly why we

542
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,640
really need the guy here.
Because he was such a hero and

543
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,120
such a bastion of truth. And but
of course, he worked very

544
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,030
closely with WikiLeaks. I'm sure
this is why he's being

545
00:31:57,060 --> 00:32:00,090
excoriating. We can't have any
friend of WikiLeaks anywhere

546
00:32:00,090 --> 00:32:00,510
now.

547
00:32:02,340 --> 00:32:07,530
It's unbelievable. Here's a good
play the kicker. Okay,

548
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,580
yeah. And of course of being a
Kremlin operative, but it's just

549
00:32:11,580 --> 00:32:15,390
this constant flow, not from
fringe accounts online, but from

550
00:32:15,390 --> 00:32:18,960
the Democratic operatives and
pundants with the greatest

551
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,300
influence. In fact, Howard Dean,
the former chairman of the

552
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:23,640
Democratic National Committee,
went on Twitter three weeks ago

553
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,640
and said, I think it would be
really interesting to find out

554
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,840
whether the intercept is
receiving money from Russia or

555
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,410
Iran some something that he
obviously has zero evidence or

556
00:32:34,410 --> 00:32:38,520
basis for suggesting, This is
what the Democratic Party has

557
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,030
become.

558
00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:42,900
Well, Pierre Omidyar drive, my
car is, of course, Persian.

559
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:47,280
So I would think that Pierre
Omidyar would be irked about

560
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:47,640
that you

561
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,120
think? Yeah, but yeah, he's
Persian, no salt. He is He is

562
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:51,990
Persian, I believe.

563
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,620
Could be Yeah, and that would be
even more of an insult.

564
00:32:55,650 --> 00:32:58,290
That's what makes it so fun.
Now, do you want to continue

565
00:32:58,290 --> 00:33:01,020
with Greg Green Road Home graph?
Or do you want me to go back to

566
00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:01,650
the other stuff? Why

567
00:33:01,650 --> 00:33:04,680
don't you go back and then I do
have another thing because I can

568
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:05,130
I,

569
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,270
we got it, we got to read it.

570
00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:08,190
I can top anything you do.

571
00:33:09,270 --> 00:33:14,250
Anything you can do, I can do
better. Here's the morning crew

572
00:33:14,370 --> 00:33:17,220
on CBS This Morning, who
actually kind of are waking up

573
00:33:17,220 --> 00:33:20,280
to the idea that maybe Russia
didn't actually make Hillary

574
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,410
lose, and they're there with
David Sanger from the New York

575
00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:24,210
Times. Astounding.

576
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,560
Russia tried to interfere with
the election. But to Kelly Ann's

577
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,220
point, did they influence the
outcome of the election

578
00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:34,440
and tip it in Donald Trump's
favor?

579
00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:37,800
I don't think anybody is in
fact, any of that has happened.

580
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,990
And I think one of the
interesting things that's going

581
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:45,420
on with the Trump campaign right
now, or the Trump transition, is

582
00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:49,200
that they are confusing the fact
set of whether the Russians came

583
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,280
in what they did with the
outcome, right. And they could

584
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,520
easily be in a position I think,
and maybe after today's

585
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,460
briefing, but maybe not, though
saying, okay, they think the

586
00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:02,850
Russians were part of the groups
that came in, but that is still

587
00:34:02,850 --> 00:34:05,760
didn't affect the outcome. I
think so far, they've sort of

588
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,990
conflated those two.

589
00:34:07,050 --> 00:34:09,390
And that's why I asked the
question in that way for that

590
00:34:09,390 --> 00:34:11,400
very point. Because it is true,
actually, that the Clinton

591
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,370
campaign spent more money in
Georgia and Arizona than they

592
00:34:14,370 --> 00:34:15,720
spent in Wisconsin and Michigan.

593
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:18,120
No, that's right. That's because
the Russians have stayed out,

594
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,300
you could have exactly the same
result. But that doesn't

595
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:22,920
necessarily mean the Russians
didn't try.

596
00:34:24,060 --> 00:34:29,760
Bo, this is fascinating to me.
Everyone's like, Well, okay, the

597
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,970
report doesn't really show that
it did anything. In fact, they

598
00:34:32,970 --> 00:34:35,640
say didn't influence the
campaign. And now they're kind

599
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,200
of questioning Hillary a little
bit.

600
00:34:39,570 --> 00:34:44,880
Well, this, this meme has got me
bothered. And the meme is, well,

601
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,950
they didn't do anything about
the voting machines. They didn't

602
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:51,750
do they didn't directly change
anything. So that much we know.

603
00:34:52,110 --> 00:34:54,660
But they did this that and they
wanted to do this and they had

604
00:34:54,660 --> 00:34:57,930
all these bad intentions. And by
the way, this was all on you

605
00:34:57,930 --> 00:35:01,080
know, public media. Yeah. Then
way I said that here's the

606
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,360
question I'd asked one of these
guys said, Well, what happens?

607
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,400
Let's just get rid of our tea
and get rid of the tweeters. And

608
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,460
what if Russia just took out a
bunch of anti Hillary

609
00:35:11,490 --> 00:35:16,380
advertisements just paid for it
that is that is that like some

610
00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:18,870
sort of illegal act or something
they can't do or they're not

611
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:22,110
allowed to take out an ad should
the media would would refuse

612
00:35:22,110 --> 00:35:22,380
these

613
00:35:22,410 --> 00:35:26,190
ads. But why don't we go let me
go through the document just for

614
00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:28,560
a bit? Okay, let's do that
because I do have more I know he

615
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,110
lips Yeah, I want to hear more
of grin green Robin and I have

616
00:35:31,110 --> 00:35:34,170
some of the the hearing I have a
couple of clips from the

617
00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:37,650
hearing. So the official title
of the report is background to

618
00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:41,310
assessing Russian activities and
intentions in recent US

619
00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:45,930
elections, colon, the analytic
process and cyber incident

620
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,080
attribution. Alright.

621
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,830
Let's get the right name for

622
00:35:52,830 --> 00:35:55,290
a report does So assessing
Russian activities and

623
00:35:55,290 --> 00:35:58,380
intentions and recent US
elections is a declassified

624
00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:01,380
version of a highly classified
assessment that has provided

625
00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:03,990
been provided to the President
and to recipients approved by

626
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:07,830
the President, which apparently
included NBC News who reported

627
00:36:07,830 --> 00:36:11,490
on this, before it was even
given to anyone else, certainly

628
00:36:11,490 --> 00:36:14,940
the public. Then they say, of
course, the intelligence

629
00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:17,850
community rarely can publicly
reveal the full extent of its

630
00:36:17,850 --> 00:36:21,600
knowledge or the precise basis
for its assessments, as the

631
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,090
release of such information
would reveal sensitive sources

632
00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:26,970
or methods and imperil the
ability to collect critical

633
00:36:26,970 --> 00:36:30,090
foreign intelligence in the
future. So in other words, we're

634
00:36:30,090 --> 00:36:31,260
not gonna tell you how we did
it.

635
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,820
Then even did it the whole thing
can be a bluff?

636
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,760
Well, when you read through this
intelligence, community,

637
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,490
analysts integrate information
from a wide range of sources,

638
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:44,220
including human sources,
technical collection, open

639
00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:47,490
source information, and apply
specialized skills and

640
00:36:47,490 --> 00:36:51,510
structured analytic tools to
draw inferences informed by the

641
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:55,050
data available. Relevance, we do
it, thank you. That's why I said

642
00:36:55,050 --> 00:36:58,500
we could have done a better job
on this report, relevant past

643
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:01,830
activity, logic and reasoning,
that should have put in their

644
00:37:01,830 --> 00:37:05,010
common sense to provide insight
into what is happening in the

645
00:37:05,010 --> 00:37:06,990
prospects for the future. But
when Intelligence Committee

646
00:37:06,990 --> 00:37:10,380
Allen says use such words, as we
assess, or we judge, they're

647
00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:14,100
conveying an analytic assessment
or judgment. Okay. And now

648
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,710
there's a couple of things he
does, this is just all the rules

649
00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:21,210
they set up before the report,
the nature of cyberspace, makes

650
00:37:21,210 --> 00:37:25,140
attribution of cyber operations
difficult, but not impossible.

651
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,040
The claim here, every kind of
cyber operation, malicious or

652
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:34,200
not leaves a trail. I disagree
with that assessment. It could

653
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,980
leave a trail, but the good
hackers erase their tracks,

654
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:46,140
it's very possible that that you
can do a lot online, in the

655
00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:50,970
cyber, cyber, cyber and not
leave a trail if you if you, of

656
00:37:50,970 --> 00:37:54,720
course, go to the library, go to
the library, and then from the

657
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,380
library, you check into a proxy.
And from that proxy, you check

658
00:37:58,380 --> 00:38:02,850
into another proxy, and then you
post something and then, you

659
00:38:02,850 --> 00:38:06,090
know, take the false nose off,
you're off your face when you

660
00:38:06,090 --> 00:38:09,630
leave the library. And then what
was the trail?

661
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,610
I would so I would assert that
as a false claim. An assessment

662
00:38:14,610 --> 00:38:17,250
of attribution usually is not a
simple statement of who

663
00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:20,040
conducted an operation, but
rather a series of judgments

664
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,160
that describe whether it was an
isolated incident, who was the

665
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,620
likely perpetrator, the
perpetrators possible

666
00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:28,050
motivations, and whether a
foreign government had a role in

667
00:38:28,050 --> 00:38:31,560
ordering or leading the
operation. So that is what they

668
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,350
talk about when it comes to
assessment. Now the things that

669
00:38:34,350 --> 00:38:36,510
are in this like key judgments,
I'm just going to pick out a

670
00:38:36,510 --> 00:38:40,950
couple of lines here. Russia's
goals were to undermine public

671
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:44,520
faith in the US democratic
process, denigrate Secretary

672
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,220
Clinton, and harm her
electability and potential

673
00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:52,410
presidency, that is a claim. We
have high confidence in these

674
00:38:52,410 --> 00:38:59,520
judgments. CIA and FBI have high
confidence in the judgments, NSA

675
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,120
has moderate confidence, and
then they just out of the blue,

676
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,440
further information has come to
light since Election Day, and

677
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,340
there's just That's it. There's
no There's no explanation of

678
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:14,010
what the information is just
further information, and that's

679
00:39:14,010 --> 00:39:17,100
not at the gate explained
anywhere in the document.

680
00:39:18,270 --> 00:39:21,060
Russian behavior since early
November 2016, increases our

681
00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:24,150
confidence in our assessment of
Russian motivations and goals.

682
00:39:25,110 --> 00:39:27,840
Again, I guess they're saying
Russia is acting shifty.

683
00:39:29,010 --> 00:39:31,650
Moscow's influence campaign
followed a Russian messaging

684
00:39:31,650 --> 00:39:34,740
strategy that blends covert
intelligence operations such as

685
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:38,640
cyber activity with overt
efforts by Russian government

686
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:44,310
agencies, state funded media,
third party intermediaries, and

687
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:51,120
paid social media users or
trolls. This is an intelligence

688
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:56,070
report. They use the word trolls
Well, worse they say paid social

689
00:39:56,070 --> 00:40:00,210
media users or trolls in quotes,
so they're saying trolls are

690
00:40:00,210 --> 00:40:03,930
paid social media users unless
I'm misreading? Oh, that's

691
00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:07,080
yeah, no, you have to assume
that that's exactly what that

692
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:07,470
means. And I

693
00:40:07,470 --> 00:40:11,610
think that is both grab total
bull crap. Russian and Russia's

694
00:40:11,610 --> 00:40:14,550
intelligence services conducted
cyber operations against targets

695
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:17,940
associated with the 2016. US
presidential election, including

696
00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:22,170
targets associated with both
major US political parties says

697
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:26,250
it right there in the document.
So let there be no confusion

698
00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:28,470
over that. So of course, they
assess with a

699
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:31,500
lot of confusion over that
already, because Iran's previous

700
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,870
says that they were never hacked
at the RNC. Well,

701
00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:38,490
we assess with high confidence
that Russian military

702
00:40:38,490 --> 00:40:42,000
intelligence that will be Gru
General Staff Main Intelligence

703
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,250
Directorate, use the Guccifer
2.0 persona and DC leaks.com to

704
00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:51,240
release us victim data obtained
in cyber operations publicly and

705
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,450
an exclusive to media outlets
and related material to

706
00:40:54,450 --> 00:41:01,680
WikiLeaks. It's quite a
mouthful. In addition, Russian

707
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,560
intelligence obtained to
maintain access to elements of

708
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,140
multiple US state or local
electoral boards. DHS who is not

709
00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:13,140
signing off on this report
assesses that types of systems,

710
00:41:13,140 --> 00:41:15,930
Russian actors targeted or
compromised, were not involved

711
00:41:15,930 --> 00:41:18,930
in vote tallying. I pulled that
that line is interesting,

712
00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:24,330
because there was the the only
claims we heard about of local

713
00:41:24,330 --> 00:41:27,450
US state or local electoral
boards is that it was actually

714
00:41:27,450 --> 00:41:31,650
DHS who was poking around in
their servers, you recall? Yes,

715
00:41:31,650 --> 00:41:34,470
they were the ones sport port
span and port scanning and

716
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:35,610
pinging around. So

717
00:41:36,030 --> 00:41:38,610
I want to point out to you that
that thing that you are

718
00:41:38,610 --> 00:41:41,520
concerned about that little
statement there about vote

719
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,590
tally, is part of that meme I'm
complaining about. And I do have

720
00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:50,280
a conclusion to make about this.
You want to do that now? No, no,

721
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,160
you're more than this. I just
wanted to make you aware that

722
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,050
this thing keeps cropping up,
right.

723
00:41:57,780 --> 00:42:00,840
This is all still just the key
findings, you know that nowhere

724
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,950
and this is the last bit of the
key findings. There's no mention

725
00:42:04,980 --> 00:42:09,510
of any proof for cyber tracks,
which of course we know they

726
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:13,140
leave them everywhere. All we
have is the statement that we

727
00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:16,140
can't tell you that because it
would ruin all of our spy craft.

728
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,680
However, Russia's state run
propaganda machine contributed

729
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,400
to the influence campaign
influence campaign by serving as

730
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,690
a platform for Kremlin messaging
to Russian and international

731
00:42:27,690 --> 00:42:32,130
audiences. So I guess it was
only for Russians and

732
00:42:32,130 --> 00:42:36,570
international audiences not for
the US electorate. I guess. We

733
00:42:36,570 --> 00:42:37,560
assess mosta

734
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,430
what is the point of saying
that? To me,

735
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:45,930
it debunks the entire thing. So
they weren't

736
00:42:45,930 --> 00:42:49,620
trying to invest it. When you
watch our TR T did does have a

737
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,580
UK feed and some feeds
elsewhere. Yeah, but that all

738
00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:56,370
that stuff. In fact, it clips I
played earlier from our tea.

739
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,560
They're not aimed at Argentina.
No. But that was the aim. You

740
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,950
have that guy, Larry Johnson.
That guy's talking to Americans,

741
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:08,730
but they specifically do not say
US audience I don't understand

742
00:43:08,730 --> 00:43:12,900
why not. However, finally, here
we assess Moscow will apply

743
00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:17,280
lessons learned from its Putin
ordered campaign. Well, that

744
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,880
statement aimed at the US
presidential election to future

745
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,270
influence efforts worldwide,
including against US allies and

746
00:43:24,270 --> 00:43:27,930
their election processes. That
is one of the dumbest things

747
00:43:27,930 --> 00:43:31,950
I've ever heard. All right now
been to the meat of the report.

748
00:43:34,590 --> 00:43:38,580
Putin ordered the campaign to
influence us election. We assess

749
00:43:38,580 --> 00:43:40,890
with high confidence that
Russian President Vladimir Putin

750
00:43:40,890 --> 00:43:44,250
ordered an influence campaign in
2016 aimed at US presidential

751
00:43:44,250 --> 00:43:47,790
election, the consistent goals
of which were to undermine

752
00:43:47,790 --> 00:43:50,520
public faith in the US
democratic process, denigrate

753
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,550
Secretary Clinton, and harm her
electability and potential

754
00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:58,530
presidency. Then, of course, all
three agencies have judged this

755
00:43:58,530 --> 00:44:02,430
with high confidence except for
NSA. In trying to influence the

756
00:44:02,430 --> 00:44:05,160
US election, we assess the
Kremlin sought to advance its

757
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,030
long standing desire to
undermine the US led liberal

758
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:13,170
democratic order, the promotion
of which Putin and other senior

759
00:44:13,170 --> 00:44:18,030
Russian leaders view as a threat
to Russia and Putin regime. I

760
00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:22,110
would say this is hearsay, Your
Honor. I mean, they're just

761
00:44:22,110 --> 00:44:24,180
making they're just saying stuff
now. Oh, they're

762
00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:28,530
just saying stuff. But I think
that in a broad sense, they're

763
00:44:28,530 --> 00:44:32,670
probably correct. Sure.
oneworld, or order as the

764
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:36,600
Hillary Clinton side of it
stands the the idea that we

765
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,950
should all be kind of slaves to
these trade treaty agreements

766
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:43,230
that NAFTA, for example, really
takes away a lot of our

767
00:44:43,230 --> 00:44:46,230
sovereignty when you look into
it, right. A who's Trade

768
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:49,350
Organization is the book you
want to read to understand that.

769
00:44:50,310 --> 00:44:54,480
That is a threat to Putin. I
agree. Okay. I think it's a

770
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,470
threat to us, I think,

771
00:44:56,550 --> 00:45:00,300
everybody, yes, Putin publicly
pointed to the past. Panama

772
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:03,510
Papers disclosure and the
Olympic doping scandal as US

773
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:08,640
directed efforts to defame
Russia, suggesting you sought to

774
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,040
use disclosures to discredit the
image of the United States and

775
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,420
cast it as hypocritical. Well,
it is maybe not for that. But

776
00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:19,800
Putin most likely, which is a
very weak argument, most likely,

777
00:45:20,250 --> 00:45:23,670
with high confidence. One I'm
just making that up wanted to

778
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:27,030
discredit Secretary Clinton
because he has publicly blamed

779
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:31,560
her since 2011, for inciting
mass protests against his regime

780
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,310
in late 2011, early 2012. And
because he holds a grudge for

781
00:45:35,310 --> 00:45:41,130
comments, he almost certainly
saw as disparaging him. Yeah, I

782
00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:44,310
agree with that, too. We assess
Putin, his advisors and the

783
00:45:44,310 --> 00:45:47,130
Russian government developed a
clear preference for President

784
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,030
elect Trump over Secretary
Clinton. And then they have a

785
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:57,120
couple of points here, I guess
to prove that. Trump's stated

786
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,640
policy to work with Russia and
pro Kremlin figures spoke highly

787
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,280
about what they saw as his
Russia friendly positions on

788
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,360
Syria and Ukraine. Putin
publicly contrasted the

789
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,910
president elects approach to
Russia with Secretary Clinton's

790
00:46:08,910 --> 00:46:14,730
quote, aggressive rhetoric.
Moscow saw that the election of

791
00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:17,520
President elect Trump as a way
to achieve an international

792
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,160
counterterrorism coalition
against the Islamic State in

793
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,300
Iraq and the Levant. What a
horrible idea. Putin has had

794
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:26,760
many positive experiences
working with Western political

795
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,670
leaders, whose business
interests made them more

796
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:33,330
disposed to deal with Russia,
such as let's put another shitty

797
00:46:33,330 --> 00:46:37,800
names in here. Former Italian
Minister Silvio Berlusconi and

798
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:46,170
German Chancellor Agera Gerhard
Schroeder. Now we go into, here

799
00:46:46,170 --> 00:46:49,080
we go. We assess that influence
campaigns are approved at the

800
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,780
highest levels of the Russian
government, particularly those

801
00:46:51,780 --> 00:46:54,780
that would be politically
sensitive, Moscow's campaign aid

802
00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:57,690
that the US election reflected
years of investments in its

803
00:46:57,690 --> 00:47:01,080
capabilities, which Moscow was
honed in the former Soviet

804
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:07,590
states. Yeah, so they're saying
Moscow is campaign to discredit

805
00:47:07,650 --> 00:47:11,280
Secretary Clinton reflects the
years of investment in its

806
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:16,050
capabilities, which Moscow was
honed in the former Soviet

807
00:47:16,050 --> 00:47:19,740
state. So they're saying this is
pretty much the old KGB guys who

808
00:47:19,740 --> 00:47:22,410
did this. That's the way I wrote
it

809
00:47:22,410 --> 00:47:25,230
really, in the end, and I'm
gonna say that term at the end

810
00:47:25,230 --> 00:47:27,210
of the day, this is about

811
00:47:27,210 --> 00:47:30,990
our tea. Yes. And we're gonna
get to that. But that

812
00:47:30,990 --> 00:47:34,440
has got anything to do with the
honing anything. Our tea, when

813
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,730
it first showed up was not very
well honed. Until it, you know,

814
00:47:38,730 --> 00:47:41,670
finally got a clue about how
Western media works. It wasn't

815
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:46,140
honed by the, by the doing our
tea in the sticks of the old

816
00:47:46,140 --> 00:47:49,440
Soviet Union. No, Are they
kidding with that assessment?

817
00:47:49,470 --> 00:47:52,410
Apparently, everyone in
mainstream media and in

818
00:47:52,410 --> 00:47:56,520
Congress. Now check this out. I
love putting this in an official

819
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,570
report. I always love it. By
their nature. Russian influence

820
00:48:00,570 --> 00:48:04,350
campaigns are multifaceted and
designed to be deniable because

821
00:48:04,350 --> 00:48:08,460
they use a mix of agents of
influence, cutouts, front

822
00:48:08,460 --> 00:48:14,880
organizations and false flag
operations. Thank you for

823
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,110
legitimizing that,

824
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,430
yes, but what false flags? Are
we talking about? That just

825
00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:22,950
stating a fact? What cut outs
are we talking about?

826
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:27,540
Moscow demonstrated this during
the Ukraine Greek Ukraine crisis

827
00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:30,930
in 2014, when Russia deployed
forces and advisors to eastern

828
00:48:30,930 --> 00:48:35,640
Ukraine and denied it publicly.
That's their that's their that's

829
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:43,320
their proof? Yes. That's their
proof. Okay, let me see. Then

830
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,340
they go on to say that,

831
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,000
that you mentioned it. Whatever
happened to the report about

832
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,760
that downed airliner that the
Dutch had, and they were

833
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,100
supposed to give us some clue
about who actually shot that

834
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:54,690
plane down. Where's that?

835
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,360
No, it's never gonna happen
since how long ago? Did

836
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,510
that happen? Two years. It's a
preliminary report. And the

837
00:49:00,510 --> 00:49:03,630
Russians were blamed all along.
Yes, of course. Well, why don't

838
00:49:03,630 --> 00:49:05,550
they show us and that's
something we have some real

839
00:49:05,550 --> 00:49:08,550
evidence. You got the black
boxes. Why is it taking so long?

840
00:49:10,020 --> 00:49:13,980
I'm sorry. That's okay. That's
that was That was uncalled for

841
00:49:14,010 --> 00:49:14,520
Go on.

842
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:23,130
Now, here's the assessment
regarding how it got how it was

843
00:49:23,130 --> 00:49:27,330
leaked the chain, the cutouts
Gusa for 2.0, who claimed to be

844
00:49:27,330 --> 00:49:30,540
an independent Romanian hacker
made multiple contradictory

845
00:49:30,540 --> 00:49:33,120
statements and false claims
about his likely Russian

846
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,150
identity through the election.
And this is great press

847
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:39,600
reporting suggests. So now we're
relying on the press. Press

848
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,270
reporting suggests that more
than one person claiming to be

849
00:49:42,270 --> 00:49:47,190
geuss for 2.0 interacted with
journalists. Content that we

850
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:49,860
assess was taken from email
accounts targeted by the GRU in

851
00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:54,300
March 2016 appeared on DC leaks.
So they're saying that this is

852
00:49:54,330 --> 00:49:58,800
all these were all fronts. the
Kremlin's principle

853
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:05,490
international propaganda. outlet
RT I love that the Kremlin their

854
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,150
principal that's that's it
that's their principal that's

855
00:50:09,150 --> 00:50:10,110
again that's it

856
00:50:10,110 --> 00:50:14,340
ladies and gentlemen their
principal propaganda outlet has

857
00:50:14,370 --> 00:50:16,140
actively yeah well

858
00:50:16,350 --> 00:50:20,790
I'll tell you we do a much
better job we got NBC CBS and to

859
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:27,360
a lesser extent ABC and CNN now
oh CNN and MSNBC divorce of

860
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,730
course okay so the propaganda
outfit actively collaborated

861
00:50:32,730 --> 00:50:36,660
with WikiLeaks Artis editor in
chief visited WikiLeaks founder

862
00:50:36,780 --> 00:50:40,740
Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian
embassy in London August 2013.

863
00:50:41,010 --> 00:50:44,310
Were to discuss renewing his
broadcast contract with R T.

864
00:50:44,370 --> 00:50:48,540
Three years ago, they did an
interview and RT routinely gives

865
00:50:48,540 --> 00:50:51,900
a song sympathetic coverage who

866
00:50:51,930 --> 00:50:55,440
has been on RT I think six to
eight times during this when

867
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,030
they get a TV camera next to

868
00:50:57,029 --> 00:51:00,209
them and so now now the report
just gets really bad now they

869
00:51:00,209 --> 00:51:04,529
just were writing to fill pages.
DHS who did not sign off on the

870
00:51:04,529 --> 00:51:07,769
report I remind you assesses
that the types of systems we

871
00:51:07,769 --> 00:51:11,129
observed Russian actors
targeting or compromising are

872
00:51:11,129 --> 00:51:14,549
not involved in vote tally,
there's your meme job. There it

873
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:19,349
is one more time. DHS assesses
that the types of systems we

874
00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:22,289
observed Russian actors
targeting or compromising are

875
00:51:22,289 --> 00:51:26,099
not involved in vote tallying.
And now we have Russian

876
00:51:26,099 --> 00:51:28,379
propaganda efforts. This is
where it gets a little crazy.

877
00:51:28,529 --> 00:51:30,899
Russia state run propaganda
machine compromise of its

878
00:51:30,899 --> 00:51:34,139
domestic media apparatus,
outlets targeting global

879
00:51:34,139 --> 00:51:38,519
audiences such as RT and Sputnik
and a network of quasi

880
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:44,699
government trolls. What does
that mean? Quasi like? They're

881
00:51:44,699 --> 00:51:48,779
fake government trolls. They
were quasi doesn't that mean?

882
00:51:48,779 --> 00:51:49,139
Like,

883
00:51:49,529 --> 00:51:55,229
maybe it means? Man, what does
it mean? That is very confusing

884
00:51:55,229 --> 00:52:00,539
that term quasi It could mean
that they're quasi there. There

885
00:52:00,539 --> 00:52:03,089
are trolls? Nevermind

886
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,480
quasi second to help quasi
definition. I

887
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,010
mean, it's kind of no,

888
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:16,470
apparently, but not real. Yeah,
kind of same thing, right, man.

889
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:19,680
Well, so it's quasi government
trolls means they're not really

890
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:20,610
government trolls.

891
00:52:22,170 --> 00:52:24,420
Yeah, what does it mean? That's
what I'm saying. This means this

892
00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:28,200
is a meaningless. What does it
mean? A quasi government troll.

893
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,840
They're real governmental.
They're quasi they're half. Are

894
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,060
they working for the government?
Are they trolls a pretend

895
00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:35,070
they're working for the
government? Or the government

896
00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:37,980
guys pretending to be trolls? Or
are they just phonies? I mean,

897
00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:39,060
what does it mean?

898
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:43,860
I don't know. That's if I had an
opportunity, I would get an

899
00:52:43,860 --> 00:52:47,940
answer. Now they just go into
all these things. Putin's chief

900
00:52:47,940 --> 00:52:52,440
propagandist, Dimitri Kizzy left
us his flagship weekly news news

901
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,800
magazine program to fall this
fall to cast president elect

902
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,340
Trump as an outsider victimized
by a corrupt political

903
00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:03,900
establishment. Pro Kremlin
proxy, Vladimir Zhirinovsky

904
00:53:04,110 --> 00:53:06,930
leader, the nationalists Liberal
Democratic Party of Russia

905
00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:09,480
proclaimed just before the
election that if President elect

906
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,470
Trump won Russia would drink
champagne in anticipation of

907
00:53:13,470 --> 00:53:16,890
being able to advance his
positions on Syria and Ukraine.

908
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:24,630
Yes, we will drink champagne and
we will snort caviar. On August

909
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:28,290
6, RTE published in English
language video called Julian

910
00:53:28,290 --> 00:53:32,130
Assange special do Wikileaks
have the email that will put

911
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,670
Clinton in prison and an
exclusive interview with Assange

912
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:40,290
entitled Clinton and ISIS funded
by the same money? Artis most

913
00:53:40,290 --> 00:53:43,740
popular video on Secretary
Clinton quote 100% of the

914
00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:47,400
Clinton's charity went to dot
dot dot themselves had more than

915
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:52,170
9 million views on social media
platforms. Artis most popular

916
00:53:52,170 --> 00:53:54,750
English language video about the
president length call a liked

917
00:53:54,750 --> 00:53:57,570
called Trump will not be
permitted to win featured

918
00:53:57,570 --> 00:54:02,790
Assange and had 2.2 million
views. And here we go Russia

919
00:54:02,850 --> 00:54:07,440
used trolls as well as RT as
part of its influence efforts to

920
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,870
denigrate Secretary Clinton.
Really, yes, really? The likely

921
00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:16,170
all of so let me get this
straight. When you went on

922
00:54:16,170 --> 00:54:18,750
Twitter all these people moaning
and groaning about Clinton there

923
00:54:18,750 --> 00:54:19,620
are trolls all of

924
00:54:19,620 --> 00:54:22,980
them paid and as we know trolls
are paid but they could be quasi

925
00:54:22,980 --> 00:54:25,680
government troll so they could
be paid trolls that aren't with

926
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:31,770
the government but I don't know.
The likely financier of the so

927
00:54:31,770 --> 00:54:37,380
called Internet Research Agency
of professional trolls Is that

928
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:42,450
is that on the on the on the
doorbell? Press here, press here

929
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:46,440
for us here for the Internet
Research Agency of professional

930
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:51,720
trolls, which is located in St.
Petersburg in a close in St.

931
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:54,750
Petersburg is a close Putin ally
with ties to Russian

932
00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:58,470
intelligence. Again here, a
journalist who is a leading

933
00:54:58,470 --> 00:55:02,430
expert on the internet It
research agency claimed that

934
00:55:02,430 --> 00:55:05,580
some social media accounts that
appear to be tied to Russia's

935
00:55:05,580 --> 00:55:10,170
professional trolls. There's
another category because they

936
00:55:10,170 --> 00:55:12,510
previously were devoted to
supporting Russian actions in

937
00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:15,510
Ukraine started to advocate for
President elect Trump as early

938
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:20,340
as December 2015. So now we are
talking about journalists who

939
00:55:20,340 --> 00:55:24,330
are not made, who are so called
experts on the internet research

940
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,960
agency of professional trolls
claim that some social media

941
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:33,180
accounts were professional
trolls. Are you kidding me? This

942
00:55:33,180 --> 00:55:39,660
is ridiculous. And then, of
course, they just kind of wrap

943
00:55:39,660 --> 00:55:42,270
it up by saying this is what
that's really the Russian

944
00:55:42,270 --> 00:55:44,970
Foreign Intelligence Service
SVR, though they're talking

945
00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:47,460
about since the Cold War This is
great. Since the Cold War,

946
00:55:47,460 --> 00:55:49,680
Russian intelligence efforts
related to US elections have

947
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,040
primarily focused on foreign
intelligence collection. For

948
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,200
decades, Russia and Soviet
intelligence services have

949
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,480
sought to collect insider
information from US political

950
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,570
parties that could help Russian
leaders understand a new US

951
00:56:00,570 --> 00:56:02,880
administration's plans and
priorities. Here's their

952
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,150
examples. The Russian Foreign
Intelligence Service SVR

953
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:12,060
director at s those are like the
Americans on the TV show. Wasn't

954
00:56:12,060 --> 00:56:15,840
that the hot redhead who in 2010
were arrested. I think it may

955
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,410
have been the hot redhead. Yeah,
yeah. So apparently they were

956
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,280
What was her name again?

957
00:56:20,910 --> 00:56:24,210
I can't remember. They weren't
red hot red faces.

958
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:27,900
They were deported to Moscow in
2010. But they report on the

959
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:33,420
28th election. In the 1970s, the
KGB recruited a Democratic Party

960
00:56:33,420 --> 00:56:36,690
activist who reported
information about then

961
00:56:36,690 --> 00:56:41,070
presidential hopeful Jimmy
Carter's campaign. And, of

962
00:56:41,070 --> 00:56:43,680
course, they have to say that
Russia has sought to influence

963
00:56:43,740 --> 00:56:47,160
elections across Europe. And
that's it. That's it.

964
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:49,410
They'll never even mention if
they're gonna do that mentioned

965
00:56:49,410 --> 00:56:53,670
Teddy Kennedy in 1984, when he
you know, contacted, openly

966
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:57,960
contacted Moscow to put a stop
to Reagan No, no, not in there.

967
00:56:58,020 --> 00:57:00,750
That's a price that's not in or
that really bothers me that he

968
00:57:00,750 --> 00:57:02,970
left that part out. I have to do
a little research on it. So I

969
00:57:02,970 --> 00:57:06,210
have more details. But it all
the right wing talk shows

970
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:10,860
this but this judge, this is an
essay. It's an essay that you

971
00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:13,500
and I could have written now.
They have snappy snazzy

972
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:19,500
graphics. Nice, cool graphics.
We could have done a better job.

973
00:57:20,009 --> 00:57:23,459
I think so this is I'm wondering
if this was an outsourced?

974
00:57:24,270 --> 00:57:26,580
Yeah, because it's interesting.
You say that? Because the first

975
00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:29,580
thing I thought this is this is
an FIR. This is not an

976
00:57:29,580 --> 00:57:31,680
intelligence report. Well, of
course, is not. It's an

977
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,220
assessment of Russian
activities. But it's using

978
00:57:35,490 --> 00:57:41,550
sketchy sources. It's using
social media as a source, social

979
00:57:41,550 --> 00:57:47,220
media, social media, and, and
they talk about trolls, paid

980
00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:50,040
trolls, quasi government trolls,
professional trolls, a lot of

981
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,760
trolls. And quite honestly, I
think is it a micro aggression

982
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:54,720
against trolls?

983
00:57:55,169 --> 00:57:57,719
Ah, yeah. And we have something
there.

984
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:05,010
I shall wrap up this bit with
the leaked report from NBC News,

985
00:58:05,010 --> 00:58:08,490
which came out Thursday night,
which I agree it's an outrage

986
00:58:09,450 --> 00:58:13,410
that this before there were
hearings before it was given to

987
00:58:13,410 --> 00:58:18,180
anyone else. It was leaked to
NBC. That of course is not okay.

988
00:58:18,210 --> 00:58:19,560
But whatever.

989
00:58:19,590 --> 00:58:23,910
Tonight, an exclusive inside
look at a top secret report on

990
00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:28,020
Russia, one that went directly
to President Obama today. So

991
00:58:28,050 --> 00:58:31,260
what does it reveal? To top
intelligence officials with

992
00:58:31,260 --> 00:58:34,620
direct knowledge of the report
tell NBC News. It details

993
00:58:34,620 --> 00:58:38,100
Russian cyber attacks against
not just the Democratic National

994
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:41,670
Committee, but the White House,
the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the

995
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:45,240
State Department, even American
companies, some hacks

996
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:50,130
successful, others forwarded.
The report explains Moscow's

997
00:58:50,130 --> 00:58:54,690
motives partly to disrupt the
democratic process. And partly

998
00:58:54,750 --> 00:58:58,470
as payback the intelligence
analysts conclude for the Obama

999
00:58:58,470 --> 00:59:01,830
administration's questioning of
Vladimir Putin's legitimacy as

1000
00:59:01,830 --> 00:59:04,770
president. It's not just last
year's presidential campaign

1001
00:59:04,770 --> 00:59:07,860
either. The report tracks
Russian cyber activity back to

1002
00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:12,570
2008 and 2012. It does not
speculate on whether Russia's

1003
00:59:12,570 --> 00:59:15,840
interference affected the
outcome of 2016 while President

1004
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:16,170
Obama

1005
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:20,100
did you hear how they did that?
That was interesting. They did

1006
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:22,620
have this like a whole different
audience like almost like it was

1007
00:59:23,130 --> 00:59:27,000
pushed in there. Like someone
said, Hey, I love the report is

1008
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,270
great and makes Russia sound
like bunch of a holes. We have

1009
00:59:30,270 --> 00:59:32,670
to put one nugget of truth.
Could you just put a little

1010
00:59:32,670 --> 00:59:37,290
little nugget in there. Just you
know, just make just put a just

1011
00:59:37,290 --> 00:59:39,960
try that whether Russia's
interference effect because it

1012
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,730
was really beautiful the way
they did that back to

1013
00:59:41,730 --> 00:59:46,440
2008 and 2012. It does not
speculate on whether Russia's

1014
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,680
interference affected the
outcome of 2016 while President

1015
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,430
Obama says that

1016
00:59:50,430 --> 00:59:53,520
was inserted after the fact
that's obvious. Whole different

1017
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,460
audio everything thrown in
there. Like we have to put

1018
00:59:56,460 --> 00:59:56,970
something day

1019
00:59:56,970 --> 01:00:00,090
he has full faith in the
conclusions of that report. Is

1020
01:00:00,090 --> 01:00:03,180
it an elected Trump? At the same
briefing tomorrow has seemed

1021
01:00:03,180 --> 01:00:06,330
skeptical of the intelligence
community. So far, the President

1022
01:00:06,330 --> 01:00:08,760
with NBC Chicago's Carol Marine,
when

1023
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,260
the President Elect receives

1024
01:00:10,260 --> 01:00:15,540
his own briefings and is able to
examine the intelligence as his

1025
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,460
team is put together, and they
see how professional and

1026
01:00:20,670 --> 01:00:25,260
effective these agencies are,
that some of those current

1027
01:00:25,260 --> 01:00:27,180
tensions will be reduced.

1028
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,340
Chuck Schumer, although it was a
few days ago, I went back and

1029
01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:39,000
watched him again as he was
talking to Rachel Maddow. And he

1030
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,280
said something that I thought
was pretty outrageous. I

1031
01:00:41,460 --> 01:00:43,830
completely understood what he
was saying, as you brought up,

1032
01:00:44,070 --> 01:00:47,250
we brought up Teddy Kennedy. But
there are other things to think

1033
01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:50,850
about in Kennedy's when it comes
to the intelligence services of

1034
01:00:50,850 --> 01:00:54,360
the United States. Here's the
veiled threat that Chuck Schumer

1035
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,320
throughout we're actually

1036
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,840
told intelligence sources tell
NBC News since this tweet has

1037
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,750
been posted, that actually this
intelligence briefing for the

1038
01:01:00,750 --> 01:01:03,450
president elect was always
planned for Friday and hasn't

1039
01:01:03,450 --> 01:01:07,170
been delayed. But he's he's
taking these shots, this

1040
01:01:07,170 --> 01:01:09,960
antagonisms, taunting to the
intelligence community

1041
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:13,020
you take on the intelligence
community, they have six ways

1042
01:01:13,020 --> 01:01:14,700
from Sunday at getting back at
you.

1043
01:01:15,150 --> 01:01:18,570
Really, Chuck? What is he
saying? We're gonna kill him

1044
01:01:18,570 --> 01:01:20,640
say they're gonna kill him.
That's it. You know, the funny

1045
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:28,680
thing a couple of that's 51% of
the American public believes

1046
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,220
that the CIA killed Kennedy
forwardly involve you.

1047
01:01:33,390 --> 01:01:36,090
In some way. We know that.
Jackie Kennedy, but

1048
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:40,050
Well, it could have been anybody
by now who knows it was like 50

1049
01:01:40,050 --> 01:01:42,660
years ago. It's kind of beside
the point. But that's kind of a

1050
01:01:42,660 --> 01:01:46,110
one of the senses of this. We
also have the Ron Paul that the

1051
01:01:46,140 --> 01:01:50,100
comment he wants made, that the
CIA took over and in a bloodless

1052
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:52,950
coup in December when they
killed Kennedy. Yes, yes. Yes,

1053
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:56,220
that element was just floating
around. And then we have in the

1054
01:01:56,220 --> 01:02:01,380
in the book that about the who's
a book that Ron Baker wrote that

1055
01:02:01,380 --> 01:02:05,010
we have a family of secrets,
family of secrets, it goes into

1056
01:02:05,010 --> 01:02:11,100
great detail about how the CIA
got Richard Nixon with the whole

1057
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:15,570
Watergate fiasco, right, right,
by kind of being double agents

1058
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,530
during that whole affair by by
purposely screwing up so he'd

1059
01:02:19,530 --> 01:02:22,290
get caught, I think is one of
the most fascinating parts of

1060
01:02:22,290 --> 01:02:24,150
that book. People should read
that book, you know,

1061
01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:28,620
as we have this also part of
that book, is the apparent fact

1062
01:02:28,650 --> 01:02:35,040
that Papa Bush, H Walker could
not remember where he was the

1063
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,870
day Kennedy was shot. Now
sources have him in Dallas. And

1064
01:02:39,870 --> 01:02:43,650
he suppose it Yeah, but he's I
can't remember where it was.

1065
01:02:43,830 --> 01:02:47,490
Every American and it remembers
where they were everyone in the

1066
01:02:47,490 --> 01:02:49,680
world who was alive and
conscious remembers where they

1067
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,810
were. Yeah, but not in
chemistry.

1068
01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:02,010
So there's that and so we have
this kind of this oblique threat

1069
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,760
by Schumer. But, but there's I
think there's goading going on

1070
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,250
there almost it's almost as if
there's the mainstream media

1071
01:03:08,250 --> 01:03:12,330
people are going wow, you know,
you can't do this. You can't

1072
01:03:12,330 --> 01:03:14,910
disparage the other ones that
are emphasizing Oh, Trump's

1073
01:03:14,910 --> 01:03:19,290
disparaging He's insulting the
agencies that are going on and

1074
01:03:19,290 --> 01:03:22,830
on about this are making a big
stink about it. Play this clip,

1075
01:03:22,860 --> 01:03:26,790
Gus shields goading the CIA This
is on PBS NewsHour.

1076
01:03:27,150 --> 01:03:33,240
I reject his disparagement, make
that disdain openly for the

1077
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:39,810
American intelligence community
and its work is is damaging to

1078
01:03:39,810 --> 01:03:43,980
national security. I mean, the
intelligence community and to

1079
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,620
for the security of our nation
for the well being of our

1080
01:03:46,620 --> 01:03:49,440
nation, for the economic
prosperity of our nation and

1081
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,220
competitiveness depends on
sources and other places and

1082
01:03:53,220 --> 01:03:56,700
other nations depend upon our
intelligence. And here we have

1083
01:03:56,850 --> 01:04:02,640
the president elect, dismissing
disparaging, disdaining openly,

1084
01:04:03,150 --> 01:04:08,760
because it somehow in his way,
his perspective diminishes his

1085
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,710
victory. It's just astonishing.

1086
01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:15,690
Yeah, well, with respect, our
intelligence agencies have done

1087
01:04:15,690 --> 01:04:18,990
some crazy crap in the past FBI
in particular,

1088
01:04:21,210 --> 01:04:22,620
which we'll get to later.

1089
01:04:23,550 --> 01:04:27,270
I did want to mention that, you
know, as we know that the DNC

1090
01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:32,250
servers were never investigated
by FBI or NSA or any other

1091
01:04:32,250 --> 01:04:36,180
official agency because the DNC
would not allow them to do that.

1092
01:04:36,510 --> 01:04:40,650
It of course, was CrowdStrike,
who they brought in CrowdStrike

1093
01:04:40,650 --> 01:04:44,190
is stacked with former
douchebags, former government

1094
01:04:44,190 --> 01:04:46,890
douchebags. And I also wanted to
point out I just learned this

1095
01:04:46,890 --> 01:04:52,470
this morning. CrowdStrike is
partially funded by Google

1096
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:57,030
capital, who led $100 million
financing round so just makes it

1097
01:04:57,030 --> 01:05:00,120
all that much more convenient.
It wraps it up in a dozen I've

1098
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,720
looked beautiful that way. I
think it's fabulous. Now the I'm

1099
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,200
thinking that these guys are in
the media and I would put, I

1100
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,200
think a lot of them are doing it
unwittingly, which is saying

1101
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,640
that Trump disparage this day
hates him. He's getting into a

1102
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,550
beef and I think it's all being
created by them is kind of a

1103
01:05:17,550 --> 01:05:18,960
message to the agencies.

1104
01:05:19,020 --> 01:05:22,590
Kill him, kill him, kill him,
kill him, kill him, kill him

1105
01:05:22,590 --> 01:05:23,490
kill him. Yeah,

1106
01:05:23,610 --> 01:05:26,490
that's what they're saying. Now,
let's listen to Adam Schiff, who

1107
01:05:26,490 --> 01:05:29,760
was in Congress, a Democratic
Representative from Southern

1108
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:30,900
California. And he was

1109
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:36,750
the guy that started with the
didn't he start with the

1110
01:05:36,750 --> 01:05:38,520
Electoral College? We had him on
Tucker.

1111
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,050
Yes, he was. That was That was
him. And he's also big buddies

1112
01:05:43,050 --> 01:05:46,710
with this huge Oh, everything's
bipartisan, bipartisan agrees.

1113
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:50,040
And when he talked bipartisan,
he talks about what two

1114
01:05:50,070 --> 01:05:54,060
Republicans are always part of
this bipartisan anti Russian

1115
01:05:54,060 --> 01:05:54,570
clique.

1116
01:05:54,810 --> 01:05:57,120
That would be Lindsey Graham and
John McCain.

1117
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,360
Exactly. Let's play this. This
is the first clip this is the

1118
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,210
one that just not the tampering
clip. But the other one, I got

1119
01:06:03,210 --> 01:06:03,300
it,

1120
01:06:03,569 --> 01:06:07,589
what should have been taken that
are not publicly known? Is it

1121
01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:12,029
your sense that the US is
responding appropriately? Should

1122
01:06:12,029 --> 01:06:16,649
more be done? What should
Americans? What should America

1123
01:06:16,649 --> 01:06:19,589
what should the United States be
prepared to do as a result of

1124
01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:20,039
this?

1125
01:06:20,339 --> 01:06:22,949
I think what has been done so
far by the current

1126
01:06:22,949 --> 01:06:26,639
administration is a first step
it is by no means, I think,

1127
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:30,419
sufficient, we need to work in
Congress on a bipartisan basis,

1128
01:06:30,569 --> 01:06:33,329
we've reached out on the
Democratic side to Senator

1129
01:06:33,569 --> 01:06:38,009
McCain and Graham on a package
of sanctions, broader sanctions,

1130
01:06:38,249 --> 01:06:41,849
to make the Russians pay a
price. But even beyond that, we

1131
01:06:41,849 --> 01:06:46,979
need a comprehensive approach to
what is a very successful, well

1132
01:06:46,979 --> 01:06:51,899
funded Russian effort through a
variety of vectors through as I

1133
01:06:51,899 --> 01:06:54,959
mentioned, you know, bribery of
people and their media

1134
01:06:54,959 --> 01:06:57,329
platforms, their hacking the
publishing of,

1135
01:06:57,569 --> 01:07:00,599
there was nothing in the report
about bribery of people that I

1136
01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:01,409
see bringing

1137
01:07:01,410 --> 01:07:04,830
it up, you know, bribery of
people and their media

1138
01:07:04,830 --> 01:07:08,640
platforms. They're hacking, the
publishing of fake news, the

1139
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,020
publishing bogus documents, we
need to push back against all of

1140
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:16,200
that. It's a threat to the
German elections coming up. It's

1141
01:07:17,130 --> 01:07:22,560
French allies, our allies, and
we need a comprehensive and hard

1142
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,590
push back. It's the only thing
the Russians understand. It's

1143
01:07:25,590 --> 01:07:27,750
the only thing that will deter
them. Yeah, let's

1144
01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:28,920
go start a war.

1145
01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:32,790
Well, talking about that, here's
McCain trying to start a war

1146
01:07:32,790 --> 01:07:36,210
when there those hearings were
going on. With clapper up there

1147
01:07:36,210 --> 01:07:40,620
this McCain's questioning
clapper specifically try and by

1148
01:07:40,620 --> 01:07:43,590
the way, clapper wouldn't answer
this question the way McCain

1149
01:07:43,590 --> 01:07:46,080
won. And McCain had a kind of a
smirk on his face afterwards

1150
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,550
saying I tried. Yes.

1151
01:07:48,270 --> 01:07:52,470
Really, what we're talking about
is, if there were if they

1152
01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:56,490
succeeded in, in changing the
results of an election, which

1153
01:07:56,490 --> 01:08:01,200
none of us believe they were
not, that would have to

1154
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,700
constitute an attack on the
United States of America because

1155
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:09,090
of the effects if they had
succeeded. Would you agree with

1156
01:08:09,090 --> 01:08:09,390
that?

1157
01:08:10,410 --> 01:08:13,710
The first we cannot say they
wait

1158
01:08:13,710 --> 01:08:17,250
a minute. He's saying even
though it didn't influence

1159
01:08:17,250 --> 01:08:20,190
because they did it with that
intent. Therefore, it's a huge

1160
01:08:20,190 --> 01:08:21,300
issue. That's what he's saying.

1161
01:08:22,380 --> 01:08:24,480
Yeah, and don't and isn't it an
act of war act

1162
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:27,930
of war? First we did he say act
of war. Yeah.

1163
01:08:30,450 --> 01:08:33,210
If they had succeeded, would you
agree with that?

1164
01:08:34,230 --> 01:08:39,990
The first we cannot say they did
not change any vote tallies or

1165
01:08:40,230 --> 01:08:46,230
anything of that sort. We had
no, we had no way of gauging the

1166
01:08:46,230 --> 01:08:46,620
impact.

1167
01:08:46,620 --> 01:08:48,840
But it McCain said he tried to
shut him up. When he said that

1168
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,030
McCain jumped in for something
that humble, we had

1169
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:56,550
no way. The impact that
certainly the intelligence

1170
01:08:56,550 --> 01:09:01,830
community can't gauge the impact
it had on choices the electorate

1171
01:09:01,860 --> 01:09:06,360
made, there's no way to for us
to gauge that. Whether or not

1172
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:11,670
that constitutes an act of war,
I think is a very heavy policy

1173
01:09:11,670 --> 01:09:16,230
call that I don't believe the
intelligence community should

1174
01:09:16,230 --> 01:09:21,720
make. But it's certainly a would
carry in my view, great gravity.

1175
01:09:22,050 --> 01:09:27,000
I have a clip from the same
hearing with Lindsey Graham. If

1176
01:09:27,030 --> 01:09:31,230
I got the biggest sissy clip in
the world. Lindsey Graham, here

1177
01:09:31,230 --> 01:09:31,620
we go.

1178
01:09:31,650 --> 01:09:36,360
Is there a difference between
espionage and interfering in an

1179
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:36,900
election?

1180
01:09:38,310 --> 01:09:42,660
Yeah, so espionage implies the,
to me at least a passive Yeah.

1181
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:46,260
Okay. passive collection, and
this was much more activist.

1182
01:09:46,290 --> 01:09:50,160
So when it comes to espionage,
we better be careful about

1183
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,640
throwing rocks. When it comes to
interfering in our election. We

1184
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,160
better be ready to throw rocks.
Do you agree with that?

1185
01:09:56,670 --> 01:09:57,750
That's a good metaphor.

1186
01:09:57,930 --> 01:09:58,740
I think what?

1187
01:09:59,430 --> 01:10:02,610
Really that's good metaphor,
throwing rocks that says yes, a

1188
01:10:02,610 --> 01:10:03,450
great metaphor be

1189
01:10:03,450 --> 01:10:05,610
ready to throw rocks. Do you
agree with that?

1190
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,200
That's a good metaphor.

1191
01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:11,730
I think what Obama did was throw
a pebble. I'm ready to throw a

1192
01:10:11,730 --> 01:10:12,090
rock.

1193
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:13,620
At me just

1194
01:10:15,509 --> 01:10:19,469
taking your information about
Russia's involvement in our

1195
01:10:19,469 --> 01:10:22,169
election and what they're doing
throughout the world and be more

1196
01:10:22,169 --> 01:10:24,599
aggressive than President Obama,
if I chose to.

1197
01:10:25,890 --> 01:10:27,540
That's your choice. And or

1198
01:10:27,690 --> 01:10:30,660
do you think he was, he was
justified in imposing new

1199
01:10:30,660 --> 01:10:35,730
sanctions based on what Russia
did? Or do? Okay? So to those of

1200
01:10:35,730 --> 01:10:38,700
you who want to throw rocks,
you're gonna get a chance here

1201
01:10:38,700 --> 01:10:42,330
soon, you and if we don't throw
rocks, and we're gonna make a

1202
01:10:42,330 --> 01:10:43,410
huge mistake,

1203
01:10:43,890 --> 01:10:45,690
he just wants to throw rocks,

1204
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,020
I didn't get that clip, you get
the borderline Clip of the Day

1205
01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:57,270
for that. I'm gonna throw a
rock, a rock, for rock and now

1206
01:10:57,300 --> 01:11:02,400
rocks. Now back to shift. This
is the one that this is my

1207
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,090
favorite clip. All right. And
this is the one where that I

1208
01:11:06,090 --> 01:11:09,630
think kind of gives me a clue to
what might be the reason for

1209
01:11:09,630 --> 01:11:13,740
this meme. I'm bitching about
and the meme again, the meme is

1210
01:11:13,740 --> 01:11:19,080
that the election results were
not altered one iota by whatever

1211
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,400
it was the Russians did

1212
01:11:20,430 --> 01:11:23,640
very hard for Congress to do it
over his opposition.

1213
01:11:24,150 --> 01:11:26,820
Well, one of the other one of
the comments he made after the

1214
01:11:26,820 --> 01:11:32,130
briefing, was he pointed out an
emphasize he said he said he

1215
01:11:32,130 --> 01:11:35,610
appreciated the briefing. But he
emphasized that the alleged

1216
01:11:35,610 --> 01:11:40,290
Russian action had in his words,
absolutely no effect on the

1217
01:11:40,290 --> 01:11:44,940
outcome of the election. Now, my
reading of what was made public

1218
01:11:44,940 --> 01:11:48,480
from this report is that they
didn't examine whether the

1219
01:11:48,780 --> 01:11:51,390
hacking affected the outcome of
the election.

1220
01:11:51,450 --> 01:11:53,790
That's exactly right. And I
think that was very misleading

1221
01:11:53,790 --> 01:11:56,610
of the president elect to
suggest that this report or the

1222
01:11:56,610 --> 01:12:00,450
presentation said there was no
outcome effect no effect on the

1223
01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:03,960
election itself. It's true.
There's no evidence that the

1224
01:12:04,230 --> 01:12:07,980
tampering with voting machines
or tampering with voter

1225
01:12:07,980 --> 01:12:10,800
registrations, or any of that
affected the counting of the

1226
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,130
votes. That's true. Ah,

1227
01:12:14,910 --> 01:12:17,100
if you listen to that clip
carefully, yeah, he

1228
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:21,270
said, the counting of the votes,
the tampering, the tampering,

1229
01:12:21,300 --> 01:12:22,170
the counting.

1230
01:12:22,710 --> 01:12:27,510
He said that there was tampering
with the vote. But there was

1231
01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:29,970
tampering with the other with
the county.

1232
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,930
Oh, I know why then, because it
was the Democrats who were

1233
01:12:33,930 --> 01:12:36,330
tampering and that's why they
have to keep it quiet.

1234
01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:40,350
No, I don't think that's it. I
think this is a scheme. They're

1235
01:12:40,350 --> 01:12:43,680
going to they're going to keep
this up this pressure. I'm sure

1236
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,620
that Democrats were tampering
Yes. But that's not the point.

1237
01:12:46,620 --> 01:12:49,350
The point is they've got it.
They keep this meme alive. So

1238
01:12:49,350 --> 01:12:51,840
it's like, okay, it wasn't a
failure. Oh, wasn't effect it

1239
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:57,450
wasn't effect. Schiff just said
there was tampering. The tamper.

1240
01:12:57,480 --> 01:13:01,530
Yes, said there was tampering,
yes. But it did not affect the

1241
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,580
outcome. No, he well play that
little. And again, tell me

1242
01:13:05,580 --> 01:13:06,810
whether he really said that.

1243
01:13:07,530 --> 01:13:09,780
Well, let me actually

1244
01:13:11,730 --> 01:13:13,260
play that clip about halfway
through.

1245
01:13:14,670 --> 01:13:16,860
Make sure I got the right one,
how much she said,

1246
01:13:16,860 --> 01:13:21,390
Let's go out. Go over it. Again.
She said that the report did not

1247
01:13:21,390 --> 01:13:24,360
say that there was tampering or
the tampering affected the

1248
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,460
outcome or anything that
Russians did affected the

1249
01:13:26,460 --> 01:13:30,300
outcome. And he agreed. He says,
Yeah, there was nothing in the

1250
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:32,610
report. And then he talked about
what's

1251
01:13:32,610 --> 01:13:35,310
your answer? And again, I'm
liking this very hard

1252
01:13:35,310 --> 01:13:37,770
for Congress to do it over his
opposition.

1253
01:13:38,250 --> 01:13:40,920
Well, one of the other one of
the comments he made after the

1254
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:46,230
briefing, was he pointed out an
emphasize he said he said he

1255
01:13:46,230 --> 01:13:49,710
appreciated the briefing. But he
emphasized that the alleged

1256
01:13:49,710 --> 01:13:54,450
Russian action had in his words,
absolutely no effect on the

1257
01:13:54,450 --> 01:13:59,040
outcome of the election. Now, my
reading of what was made public

1258
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,580
from this report is that they
didn't examine whether the

1259
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,520
hacking affected the outcome of
the election.

1260
01:14:05,550 --> 01:14:07,920
That's exactly right. And I
think that was very misleading

1261
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,710
of the president elect to
suggest that this report or the

1262
01:14:10,710 --> 01:14:14,550
presentation said there was no
outcome effect no effect on the

1263
01:14:14,580 --> 01:14:18,060
election itself. It's true.
There's no evidence that the

1264
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:22,110
tampering with voting machines
or tampering with voter

1265
01:14:22,110 --> 01:14:24,900
registrations, or any of that
affected the counting of the

1266
01:14:24,900 --> 01:14:25,920
votes. That's true.

1267
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:32,700
You're right. The tampering
didn't affect the accounting. So

1268
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,790
that doesn't mean that the votes
weren't falsified. Just when

1269
01:14:35,790 --> 01:14:38,040
they counted them. There was no
tampering.

1270
01:14:39,060 --> 01:14:42,060
That will He say it would this
would I think he's done because

1271
01:14:42,060 --> 01:14:45,540
he's on the Intelligence
Committee. He is stupidly

1272
01:14:45,870 --> 01:14:49,920
bringing up the end of the kind
of the next stage of this

1273
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:52,830
because I don't think he should
have said that at all. Yeah, he

1274
01:14:52,830 --> 01:14:54,720
shouldn't have said anything
he's just said the alleged

1275
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,170
tampering or the suppose it that
he didn't do any of that. He

1276
01:14:58,170 --> 01:15:02,760
said the tampering as is If
there was tampering, which I

1277
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,890
think is going to be the next
thing that comes out the next

1278
01:15:04,890 --> 01:15:09,030
the the other was tampering and
no you because you're letting

1279
01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:13,170
everybody step into this trap.
Oh, there is no and even McCain

1280
01:15:13,170 --> 01:15:15,510
does it and he's in on those
committees too. So he knows how

1281
01:15:15,510 --> 01:15:18,990
to do this. And he says it
right? There's no proof of what

1282
01:15:18,990 --> 01:15:23,310
he's leaving out is there's no
proof yet. There's no proof that

1283
01:15:23,310 --> 01:15:26,340
they outcome of the election was
affected by anything that

1284
01:15:26,340 --> 01:15:31,590
Russians did. There's no proof
yet. And so he does it right.

1285
01:15:31,770 --> 01:15:34,260
But he keeps the this. That's
what's bothering me about the

1286
01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:36,210
meme. It's in play.

1287
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:39,000
Right. I think you're right. I
think you're right. Yeah, I

1288
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,710
think you're right, we have to
keep our eye on it.

1289
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,100
Yeah, and then you're gonna see
the next thing they're gonna do,

1290
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:47,220
they're gonna fight oops, there
was tampering,

1291
01:15:47,820 --> 01:15:51,990
the President did issue an
executive order, which didn't

1292
01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:56,490
get a lot of play Executive
Order, taking additional steps

1293
01:15:56,490 --> 01:15:59,610
to address the national
emergency. With respect to

1294
01:15:59,610 --> 01:16:03,180
significant malicious cyber
enabled activities, I will only

1295
01:16:03,180 --> 01:16:06,810
read the opening here. By the
authority vested in me I BARACK

1296
01:16:06,810 --> 01:16:08,970
OBAMA, PRESIDENT United States
of America in order to take

1297
01:16:08,970 --> 01:16:11,340
additional steps to deal with
the National Emergency with

1298
01:16:11,340 --> 01:16:14,100
respect to significant malicious
cyber enabled activities

1299
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:18,810
declared in executive order
13 694 of April 1 2015. And in

1300
01:16:18,810 --> 01:16:21,810
view of the increasing use of
such activities to undermine

1301
01:16:21,810 --> 01:16:26,250
democratic processes or
institutions, hereby order, all

1302
01:16:26,250 --> 01:16:30,330
property and interest in
property that are in the United

1303
01:16:30,330 --> 01:16:33,180
States that here after come
within the United States, or

1304
01:16:33,180 --> 01:16:36,600
that here, or that our or
hereafter come within possession

1305
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,740
or control the United States
person, blah, blah, okay. So if

1306
01:16:40,740 --> 01:16:44,370
you, any person determined by
the Secretary of the Treasury,

1307
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,980
interestingly, in consultation
with the Attorney General and

1308
01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:49,800
the Secretary of State to be
responsible for or complicit in,

1309
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,370
or to have engaged in directly
or indirectly, cyber enabled

1310
01:16:53,370 --> 01:16:57,360
activities originating from or
directed by persons located in

1311
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,230
whole or in substantial part
outside the United States, that

1312
01:17:01,230 --> 01:17:03,690
are reasonably likely to result
in or have materially

1313
01:17:03,690 --> 01:17:06,480
contributed to a significant
threat to the national security,

1314
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:09,360
foreign policy, economic health
of financial stability of the

1315
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,080
United States, which includes
harming or otherwise

1316
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,480
significantly compromising the
provision of services by a

1317
01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:18,990
computer network, or computers
that support one or more

1318
01:17:18,990 --> 01:17:21,510
entities of critical
infrastructure, this is what

1319
01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:27,810
it's about. So now, he's putting
election systems under critical

1320
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,860
infrastructure, tampering with
altering or causing a

1321
01:17:31,860 --> 01:17:35,190
misappropriation of information
with the purpose or effect of

1322
01:17:35,190 --> 01:17:38,280
interfering with or undermining
election processes or

1323
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,990
institutions. And it goes on and
on. So this is now that means a

1324
01:17:42,990 --> 01:17:46,500
whole new set of rules come into
play, if there's suspicion of

1325
01:17:46,500 --> 01:17:50,460
that, and that could be part of
the setup of what you're talking

1326
01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:52,590
about. You know what I mean?

1327
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,740
Yeah, I think is a good
possibility that this is

1328
01:17:55,740 --> 01:17:57,000
definitely going on.

1329
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:02,880
Now. For future I thought,
Admiral Michael Rogers, who is

1330
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,510
now running NSA, I thought he
had a very interesting

1331
01:18:06,510 --> 01:18:09,360
statement, when asked what he
what you know, that's what keeps

1332
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,330
you awake at night? What are you
worried about? What I remember,

1333
01:18:12,330 --> 01:18:14,760
what is what are you so
frightened about for the future?

1334
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:15,510
Here's his answer.

1335
01:18:15,540 --> 01:18:20,130
When I look at the challenges
and the threats, it's in no

1336
01:18:20,130 --> 01:18:23,880
particular order, significant
extraction of information and

1337
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,490
insight that is generating
economic advantage for others.

1338
01:18:26,850 --> 01:18:31,020
That is eroding operational
advantage at times for us as a

1339
01:18:31,020 --> 01:18:36,930
nation. That is, as you have
seen in this Russian piece,

1340
01:18:37,590 --> 01:18:40,380
where we're not just the
extraction, but then the use of

1341
01:18:40,380 --> 01:18:45,060
this information adds a whole
nother dimension. And what

1342
01:18:45,060 --> 01:18:48,480
concerns me that beyond all that
is, what happens is we start to

1343
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:51,420
move into an environment in
which not only is information

1344
01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:54,930
being I've heard some people use
the phrase weaponized, what

1345
01:18:54,930 --> 01:18:57,900
happens when now we start
people, we see people suddenly

1346
01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:01,200
manipulating our network. So it
is the data that we're looking

1347
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,320
at. That would be a real
fundamental game changer to me.

1348
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,170
And to me, it's only a question
of the when the this is going to

1349
01:19:07,170 --> 01:19:12,780
happen. And what happens when
the non state actor decides that

1350
01:19:12,780 --> 01:19:16,470
cyber offers an asymmetric
advantage to them, because their

1351
01:19:16,620 --> 01:19:19,950
sense of risk, and their
willingness to destroy the

1352
01:19:19,950 --> 01:19:23,490
status quo is significantly
different and greater than your

1353
01:19:23,490 --> 01:19:26,610
typical nation state. Those are
the kinds of long term things.

1354
01:19:26,730 --> 01:19:30,300
So as we've talked about, more
broadly today, we've got to get

1355
01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:32,400
better on the defensive side,
because part of deterrence is

1356
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,830
making it harder for them to
succeed. I acknowledge that but

1357
01:19:34,830 --> 01:19:37,770
a defensive strategy alone isn't
going to work. It is a resource

1358
01:19:37,770 --> 01:19:40,380
intensive approach to doing
business, and it puts us on the

1359
01:19:40,380 --> 01:19:43,590
wrong end of the cost equation.
That's a losing strategy for us.

1360
01:19:43,740 --> 01:19:46,770
But it is a component of a
strategy. We have got to ask

1361
01:19:46,770 --> 01:19:50,010
ourselves, how do we change this
broader dynamic to go to the

1362
01:19:50,010 --> 01:19:53,250
point you've heard repeatedly
today, how do we convince

1363
01:19:53,370 --> 01:19:56,070
nations and other actors out
there that there is a price to

1364
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:59,190
pay for this behavior, that in
fact it is not in your best

1365
01:19:59,190 --> 01:20:02,820
interest and what should Let
price be, oh, it's a wide, it's

1366
01:20:02,820 --> 01:20:05,850
a wide range of, there's no one
silver bullet, which is another

1367
01:20:05,850 --> 01:20:07,770
show along with me. If we're
looking for the perfect

1368
01:20:07,770 --> 01:20:11,100
solution, there isn't one bomb
them, again, be a variety of

1369
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:13,860
incremental solutions and
efforts that are going to play

1370
01:20:13,860 --> 01:20:16,080
out over time. There's no one
single approach here.

1371
01:20:16,140 --> 01:20:19,050
So what he's saying is, you
know, and we've heard this

1372
01:20:19,050 --> 01:20:22,440
before, this was the initial
defense from people like Donna

1373
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:25,710
Brazil, I and they they changed
the information. These are my

1374
01:20:25,710 --> 01:20:28,890
emails, I don't recognize that
this will be grayed out, I would

1375
01:20:28,890 --> 01:20:31,920
say for the, for the climate
change people. Wow, well,

1376
01:20:31,980 --> 01:20:35,760
numbers, the numbers were
changed by Russia, we wasted all

1377
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,550
this time thinking we were gonna
die, it'd be perfect out for

1378
01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:41,790
them. And it would be one of
them. Ted Cruz, who was asking

1379
01:20:41,790 --> 01:20:44,970
this question had a little
editorial after the admirals

1380
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,260
response, like the

1381
01:20:46,260 --> 01:20:49,500
one about manipulating Russians
and climate change is great.

1382
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,260
Right. We've heard the other
Russians change the data. I'm

1383
01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:54,180
sorry, back to the drawing
board. Well, on

1384
01:20:54,180 --> 01:20:57,570
your point about manipulating
data, but a month ago, I chaired

1385
01:20:57,570 --> 01:21:00,000
a different committee a hearing
on artificial intelligence and

1386
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,700
our growing economies growing
reliance on artificial

1387
01:21:02,700 --> 01:21:04,830
intelligence. And one of the
things that the witnesses

1388
01:21:04,830 --> 01:21:08,220
testified there was concern on
the cybersecurity side Listen,

1389
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,910
of a hack that would modify the
big data that's being relied on

1390
01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:15,210
for artificial intelligence to
change the decision making in a

1391
01:21:15,210 --> 01:21:18,210
way nobody's even aware it's
been changed. And I think that's

1392
01:21:18,210 --> 01:21:22,560
a a threat. I hope that you all
are examining closely, and it's

1393
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,740
the sort of threat that could
have significant repercussions.

1394
01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:28,680
Without anyone even being aware
it's happening. I would

1395
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,500
really love to see the good
professor Theodore Kaczynski

1396
01:21:31,500 --> 01:21:36,900
testify. Because that's what
you're saying Teddy Cruz. None

1397
01:21:36,900 --> 01:21:40,620
of this ends. Well, of course,
that's dangerous. He's right.

1398
01:21:41,310 --> 01:21:41,910
It's a huge

1399
01:21:41,910 --> 01:21:45,450
day. He's right. But he's wrong.
Well, yeah. Just shut down the

1400
01:21:45,450 --> 01:21:49,140
internet. And we'll be fine.
Yeah, power. We thought this was

1401
01:21:49,140 --> 01:21:51,630
a good idea to begin with the
internet.

1402
01:21:52,260 --> 01:21:55,470
Yeah. Tim Berners Lee, of
course,

1403
01:21:55,500 --> 01:21:58,530
I've said it numerous times.
Even when the early days of

1404
01:21:58,530 --> 01:22:01,200
this. I'm very consistent. I
said, the first thing you should

1405
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,200
have done is shut down the
internet for at least a couple

1406
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,930
of months to get rid of TCP IP,
because that's really the base

1407
01:22:06,930 --> 01:22:09,540
of the problem and find
something else that works

1408
01:22:09,540 --> 01:22:12,930
better. Get rid of Lillian
secure, you want to get works

1409
01:22:12,930 --> 01:22:14,220
great. I mean, yeah, you're
gonna

1410
01:22:14,220 --> 01:22:16,260
you want to go back to Novell
network?

1411
01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:20,310
Yeah. Token Ring ring, a token

1412
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:22,560
ring. You did? I think I

1413
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,500
said it a little sooner. Because
of the lag.

1414
01:22:26,220 --> 01:22:29,160
I think she'll go back to frame
relay connections. I'm ready for

1415
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:35,610
it. Now. I do have I do have one
jokey, jokey kicker. Okay. Go

1416
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,750
jokey kicker. Nancy Pelosi
places the blame squarely on the

1417
01:22:39,750 --> 01:22:40,170
media.

1418
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,840
I really say to you, my friends
in the press, with all due

1419
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,080
respect for the guardians of
First Amendment that you are

1420
01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:51,060
the guardians of the First
Amendment that you are,

1421
01:22:52,140 --> 01:22:54,840
I really say to you, my friends
in the press with all due

1422
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,590
respect for that's your job to
Chicago guardians of First

1423
01:22:58,590 --> 01:23:02,280
Amendment that you are that
you're accomplices in this

1424
01:23:02,430 --> 01:23:07,200
because every single day, Jeremy
and Hillary lost me mail that

1425
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:11,370
was embarrassing to the Clinton
administration without saying

1426
01:23:11,460 --> 01:23:15,840
this is we know this because of
disruption by a foreign power

1427
01:23:16,410 --> 01:23:17,700
into our electoral system.

1428
01:23:18,090 --> 01:23:22,590
Yeah. So you have to disclaim
every WikiLeaks email with

1429
01:23:22,620 --> 01:23:24,570
Oh, is that defending the First
Amendment?

1430
01:23:25,650 --> 01:23:28,650
Well, do you have this? Yes.
What you have to do slave

1431
01:23:29,250 --> 01:23:37,080
into our electoral system is and
so did it affect the Clinton

1432
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:41,310
campaign? Horse? Of course it
would. It hadn't come out

1433
01:23:41,310 --> 01:23:44,040
differently. I don't know.
Because there are many factors

1434
01:23:44,250 --> 01:23:45,240
in an election.

1435
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:53,340
Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Nancy.
Douche All right. That's all I

1436
01:23:53,340 --> 01:23:55,980
got. I think we might have
beaten this one to death. It's a

1437
01:23:55,980 --> 01:23:56,730
stupid I

1438
01:23:56,730 --> 01:23:58,980
liked it. I think this is good,
because this is going to be the

1439
01:23:58,980 --> 01:24:02,430
future of news. Let's see if
there's anything I need to play

1440
01:24:02,430 --> 01:24:07,080
before we get out of here with
Chuck. I did yeah. Chuck Schumer

1441
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,140
at least this play a little bit
of him. Okay. This is Schumer

1442
01:24:10,140 --> 01:24:13,950
babbling is the Senate so they
did they're all introduce

1443
01:24:13,950 --> 01:24:17,760
themselves. So this is Shoom
part part of Schumer's long

1444
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,750
winded bull crap about you know,
Trump being a crappy president

1445
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:23,580
and he's already laid down the
gauntlet.

1446
01:24:23,610 --> 01:24:27,840
So when he calls Chuck Schumer,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1447
01:24:28,260 --> 01:24:30,450
Schumer babbling as new leader.

1448
01:24:30,570 --> 01:24:31,410
I'm sorry.

1449
01:24:32,370 --> 01:24:37,530
I got it serious thought and
action. These issues are too

1450
01:24:37,530 --> 01:24:43,800
important. From your words, our
challenges too entrenched for

1451
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:49,680
mere tweeting. Making America
Great Again, requires more than

1452
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:57,060
140 characters per issue. With
all due respect, America cannot

1453
01:24:57,060 --> 01:25:02,310
afford a Twitter presidency. We
have real challenges and we have

1454
01:25:02,310 --> 01:25:06,840
real needs to get things done.
And many Americans are afraid,

1455
01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:10,830
Mr. President Elect, then
instead of rolling up your

1456
01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:16,770
sleeves, and forging serious
policies for you, Twitter

1457
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:21,030
suffices. There's nothing wrong
with using Twitter to speak to

1458
01:25:21,030 --> 01:25:25,590
the American people. It's a good
use of modern media. But these

1459
01:25:25,590 --> 01:25:29,940
issues are complex, and demand
both careful consideration and

1460
01:25:29,940 --> 01:25:35,190
action. We cannot tweet them
away. For instance, a tweet

1461
01:25:35,190 --> 01:25:38,820
bragging about the 800 jobs that
were saved at the carrier plant

1462
01:25:38,820 --> 01:25:42,750
doesn't solve the underlying
problem. While it's good the 800

1463
01:25:42,750 --> 01:25:48,090
jobs were saved even a carrier
1300 jobs are still leaving

1464
01:25:48,990 --> 01:25:53,010
hundreds more jobs are leaving
it from the nearby Rexnord giant

1465
01:25:53,010 --> 01:25:57,000
down the road. Gone Qualcomm.

1466
01:26:00,300 --> 01:26:04,020
Sorry, he goes on and on about
all these things that the

1467
01:26:04,020 --> 01:26:07,140
Democrats have done nothing
about for the last eight years.

1468
01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:11,010
And he's bitching and moaning.
So So apparently, which is the

1469
01:26:11,010 --> 01:26:13,980
other clip that when you started
to play, would you now to play

1470
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,510
this other clip? The Chuck
Schumer clown room? I didn't

1471
01:26:18,510 --> 01:26:22,830
know this happened, but
apparently, Trump called Schumer

1472
01:26:22,830 --> 01:26:27,000
a clown. I never heard that
mirror it goes

1473
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:30,930
to when he calls Chuck Schumer
the head clown work?

1474
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:37,980
What does it help? How does it
possibly help? I mean, he's

1475
01:26:37,980 --> 01:26:42,930
gonna need Chuck Schumer, Chuck
Schumer is a proud and able and

1476
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:47,430
dedication bands. And you don't
want him as an opponent. You

1477
01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:51,840
don't want him as a sworn
adversary. And he's a formidable

1478
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,350
authority is legislatively. Why
do it? It's because,

1479
01:26:55,500 --> 01:26:59,580
you know, I, while we're on
this, that I was gonna save this

1480
01:26:59,580 --> 01:27:03,030
clip, but while we're on people
slamming Trump particularly for

1481
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:09,240
tweeting, I need to play this
clip. I consider Jason Calacanis

1482
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,030
to be a friend. I've known him
for a long time, back to the

1483
01:27:12,030 --> 01:27:15,570
Silicon Alley days in New York.
He's an odd duck. And I always I

1484
01:27:15,570 --> 01:27:18,510
always thought that he and Trump
actually are a little similar in

1485
01:27:18,510 --> 01:27:22,740
the way they speak. And just
some things are to be familiar.

1486
01:27:23,340 --> 01:27:26,610
And these days, he is a as far
as I know, an unpaid

1487
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:31,920
correspondent on CNBC, to go
talk about technology related

1488
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:38,010
issues. And again, he knows a
lot about Silicon Valley and

1489
01:27:38,010 --> 01:27:41,580
funding and angel investing. And
you know, he knows a decent

1490
01:27:41,580 --> 01:27:45,630
amount about technology. But
when it comes to this, I gotta

1491
01:27:45,630 --> 01:27:49,830
say he's overstepped his bounds.
And he's really he really comes

1492
01:27:49,830 --> 01:27:51,510
off as a douchebag. Well, I

1493
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:54,600
would say we're starting to see
exactly how disastrous the Trump

1494
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,360
presidency can be tweeting
first, and then getting the

1495
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:01,470
intelligence second is the worst
possible strategy you could have

1496
01:28:01,470 --> 01:28:04,830
when dealing with cyber attacks.
You don't want to force the

1497
01:28:04,830 --> 01:28:07,350
intelligence community
intelligence community to tip

1498
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:10,410
their cards and explain how they
get their information, who they

1499
01:28:10,410 --> 01:28:12,510
get their information from when
they got it

1500
01:28:12,540 --> 01:28:15,360
there's Jays did miss these
talking points is Mr. Talking

1501
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,000
Points all of a sudden, so here
he is, oh, well, you know, we

1502
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,010
have methods we can't disclose

1503
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,200
what you want to do is meet with
the intelligence community,

1504
01:28:22,230 --> 01:28:25,350
respect the hard work, the
dangerous work that they do,

1505
01:28:25,350 --> 01:28:27,960
where they put their lives at
risk, collect the information,

1506
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:31,980
and then you don't want to
explain to Julian Assange, you

1507
01:28:31,980 --> 01:28:34,830
know, the PR, you know, Putin's
organization

1508
01:28:34,860 --> 01:28:41,220
really, really, really Jason
Julian Assange is the PR agency

1509
01:28:41,220 --> 01:28:45,210
for Vladimir Putin. I mean,
these offices off the

1510
01:28:45,210 --> 01:28:46,320
reservation with this shit,

1511
01:28:46,350 --> 01:28:50,760
I know explain to Julian
Assange, you know, the PR, you

1512
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:54,090
know, Putin's organization, or
to Putin, how you're getting

1513
01:28:54,090 --> 01:28:57,930
your information, Trump is an
absolute unmitigated disaster

1514
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:01,620
right now, this is incredibly
dangerous. When it comes to

1515
01:29:01,620 --> 01:29:04,710
cybersecurity. You've never
explained how you catch people

1516
01:29:04,830 --> 01:29:08,070
that is like a proprietary
secret that you would never want

1517
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:10,080
Putin to understand. Because
then they can close those

1518
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,230
loopholes. They can close the
access we have to their

1519
01:29:13,230 --> 01:29:16,620
information. It's a disaster, I
think what you want to do is you

1520
01:29:16,620 --> 01:29:20,880
want to back your team, in all
things, first, hear the

1521
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:25,470
information first, and then form
an opinion, forming opinions and

1522
01:29:25,470 --> 01:29:29,610
then spewing them on Twitter at
6am or 7am. Without thinking

1523
01:29:29,610 --> 01:29:33,810
about them or having collected
the information is idiotic.

1524
01:29:33,930 --> 01:29:36,630
Let's not sit here and try to
normalize what Trump is doing.

1525
01:29:36,750 --> 01:29:39,900
This is insane behavior. And
we're sitting here trying to

1526
01:29:39,900 --> 01:29:42,690
pretend like Oh, but he's so
good at Twitter. He's so good

1527
01:29:42,690 --> 01:29:46,290
with this, you know, negotiating
on Twitter. This is not a normal

1528
01:29:46,290 --> 01:29:50,040
negotiation. We're dealing with
superpowers and information

1529
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:54,450
about rigging and dismantling
our democracy. There is nothing

1530
01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:58,560
normal about this. This is
idiotic, dangerous behavior.

1531
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,510
Let's not sit here and try to
ignore Otherwise,

1532
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,360
he will certainly be asked to
come back with that kind of

1533
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:07,590
talk. They love that. Yeah,
probably. But that's I'm very

1534
01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:08,370
disappointed.

1535
01:30:09,420 --> 01:30:12,960
Well, I am too. I didn't realize
he was such a hill, but I don't

1536
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:13,080
even

1537
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,660
think he's a hill bodies, too.
He's just trying to be you have

1538
01:30:15,660 --> 01:30:19,050
to beat him. No, no, he's he's
trying to be a cybersecurity

1539
01:30:19,050 --> 01:30:21,690
expert, which is with us. That's
the whole reason why, you know,

1540
01:30:22,020 --> 01:30:27,480
Tina, and I watched the McAfee
documentary. Of course, after

1541
01:30:27,480 --> 01:30:29,550
she went into the show notes,
looked at the clip and said,

1542
01:30:29,550 --> 01:30:32,280
Boy, you guys made a good call
not to play that. And then we

1543
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:37,140
looked at the call. Okay. You
made the

1544
01:30:37,140 --> 01:30:40,380
call. I'm just saying because
you I was getting resistance.

1545
01:30:41,010 --> 01:30:44,310
Yeah, but I didn't push. I mean,
ultimately, I know, I control

1546
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:44,460
that.

1547
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,640
When you insist on some I don't,
I'm not going to

1548
01:30:47,910 --> 01:30:50,880
kind of read. Okay, fine. Okay.
You get all the credit. Good,

1549
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:51,240
man.

1550
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:55,230
I don't want to credit I just
don't want. I just don't I just

1551
01:30:55,230 --> 01:30:58,560
wanted to make clear that you
would have played the clip? No,

1552
01:30:58,560 --> 01:30:58,620
I

1553
01:30:58,620 --> 01:31:04,470
don't think so. Anyway, that
documentary. I will tell you

1554
01:31:04,470 --> 01:31:10,320
right now, that is McAfee is
behind it. He is biased. Oh,

1555
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:14,850
yeah. Oh, for sure. He's behind
it, and it is positioning him as

1556
01:31:14,850 --> 01:31:17,010
a cybersecurity expert.

1557
01:31:17,370 --> 01:31:21,510
Okay. I have not seen the clip.
I mean, the documentary in its

1558
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,290
entirety. I would have thought
it was because of that sub clip

1559
01:31:25,290 --> 01:31:27,630
that we put on the show notes
which anyone can listen to.

1560
01:31:27,690 --> 01:31:30,390
Yeah, I would think that it was
a hit piece

1561
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:35,280
in context of the documentary.
It only adds to his craziness.

1562
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:41,160
Which I'm telling you this thing
is a propaganda documentary for

1563
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:45,690
him to reposition him as a
cybersecurity expert, which he

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01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,600
and I mean, and the clue for me,
I should have clipped it

1565
01:31:48,780 --> 01:31:50,100
the closer to it than

1566
01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:55,620
Calacanis. Well, that's for
sure. The clue was he ran for

1567
01:31:56,130 --> 01:32:00,060
Libertarian candidate and came
in second behind Gary Johnson.

1568
01:32:00,510 --> 01:32:03,870
That is not how a documentarian
would position what happened

1569
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:09,210
with the primary. And Bt was not
even nor close to me. He was

1570
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:13,590
Okay second, but nowhere close
to Gary Johnson in votes. So

1571
01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:16,200
that was it. I'm telling you,
you watch this

1572
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,570
thing. Okay. I'm taking your
word for it.

1573
01:32:19,530 --> 01:32:23,190
He's pretty much insane, though.
It's frankly crazy.

1574
01:32:23,220 --> 01:32:28,350
He's always been a little Andy.
Yeah. But anyway, after hearing

1575
01:32:28,350 --> 01:32:31,440
that, what he likes to eat, I'm
decided that I'm not gonna take

1576
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:32,790
him up on the dinner. He owes me

1577
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:37,440
one other thing just before we
take our break. Sunday night I

1578
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:40,230
watched just, Tina wasn't
handling. And that's when I

1579
01:32:40,230 --> 01:32:45,330
watch Grand Tour. I watched Jay
Leno's Garage, and also watched

1580
01:32:45,330 --> 01:32:47,520
the accountant the Ben Affleck
movie.

1581
01:32:48,450 --> 01:32:51,000
I just watched that a week ago.
Well,

1582
01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:52,350
what did you notice?

1583
01:32:53,340 --> 01:32:59,730
Oh I didn't I just enjoyed the
movie. I didn't notice anything

1584
01:32:59,730 --> 01:33:00,510
particularly

1585
01:33:00,540 --> 01:33:04,740
I noticed that the end I thought
it got went very heavy on we

1586
01:33:04,740 --> 01:33:07,320
have to respect her autistic
children. They could be

1587
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:11,340
brilliant. Yeah, so we got that
that was a message message who

1588
01:33:11,340 --> 01:33:14,760
was the executive producer of
this movie? I don't remember

1589
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:20,610
much. Our new Secretary of the
Treasury Munch Yeah, he he was

1590
01:33:20,610 --> 01:33:24,720
also executive producer on Saly
executive producer on Mad Max

1591
01:33:24,780 --> 01:33:26,580
this guy's a huge Hollywood guy.

1592
01:33:28,620 --> 01:33:30,600
Really? Yeah, yeah.

1593
01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:35,910
Yeah, yeah. mancia is so I
immediately went to see if he

1594
01:33:35,910 --> 01:33:39,900
had I couldn't find it because
this morning before the show. I

1595
01:33:39,900 --> 01:33:42,720
have a feeling that he may
somehow maybe has an autistic

1596
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,870
child or something because there
was such a strong it was like

1597
01:33:45,870 --> 01:33:49,710
the artist like the Autism
Foundation had financed part of

1598
01:33:49,710 --> 01:33:50,220
the movie.

1599
01:33:50,519 --> 01:33:52,949
Yeah, well because at the end it
was all about he you know, he

1600
01:33:52,949 --> 01:33:56,309
just guy steals money left and
right now to steal he gets big

1601
01:33:56,309 --> 01:34:00,299
fees for working with the shady
characters as to beyond the run

1602
01:34:00,299 --> 01:34:03,539
all the time. And then launder
the money only so I can give it

1603
01:34:03,539 --> 01:34:07,289
to this one operation which is
autism. Kind of a hotel.

1604
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,890
Yeah. And he was autistic
himself. Of course. Yeah, then I

1605
01:34:10,890 --> 01:34:14,340
look into the IMDB of Monty oh
my god this guy has done a lot.

1606
01:34:15,330 --> 01:34:17,640
And but he's a Goldman guy,
isn't he?

1607
01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:21,810
Goldman or I think JP Morgan who

1608
01:34:22,050 --> 01:34:24,930
I think is a Goldman guy and I
think he's part of that division

1609
01:34:24,930 --> 01:34:27,960
of the of the company that does
a lot of finances movies, and

1610
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:32,070
he's like shows up as executive
producer. I think I could be

1611
01:34:32,070 --> 01:34:35,040
wrong. Let me see I have it
caught me off guard.

1612
01:34:35,220 --> 01:34:41,310
Yeah, it was like whoa, this is
interesting. Oh, here I can find

1613
01:34:41,310 --> 01:34:44,940
it here. I think we ended up
figure out how to pronounce his

1614
01:34:44,940 --> 01:34:47,220
name when Munch

1615
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:48,510
Munch is good.

1616
01:34:50,970 --> 01:34:56,550
Munch Melenchon Okay, I am the
DB. Check this out. You'll love

1617
01:34:56,550 --> 01:35:03,870
this. Okay, I am DB Here's his
most recent movies the ones that

1618
01:35:03,870 --> 01:35:09,030
are coming out the LEGO Ninjago
Movie but the ones we would know

1619
01:35:09,030 --> 01:35:16,020
Salih, The Legend of Tarzan
Keanu Batman vs Superman Dawn of

1620
01:35:16,020 --> 01:35:19,320
Justice. There's a ton of them
here. I don't know all of the

1621
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:25,530
Man from UNCLE the 2015 version
Mad Max Fury Road. American

1622
01:35:25,530 --> 01:35:30,210
Sniper. And the guy's been
around the Lego movie a lot of

1623
01:35:30,210 --> 01:35:31,320
movies. Yeah.

1624
01:35:33,150 --> 01:35:33,870
The money guy.

1625
01:35:33,929 --> 01:35:36,119
Yeah, that's a real money guy.

1626
01:35:36,750 --> 01:35:39,840
Yeah. I thought that was he had
some money people too, you know?

1627
01:35:39,870 --> 01:35:40,230
Yeah, but

1628
01:35:40,230 --> 01:35:44,580
I thought that was interesting.
That was interesting. Yes. So

1629
01:35:44,580 --> 01:35:46,470
with that comment, I would like
to thank you for your courage

1630
01:35:46,470 --> 01:35:49,290
and say in the morning to you
John C where the C stands for

1631
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,920
cyber reports are better when we
do them Devorah back

1632
01:35:53,490 --> 01:35:55,740
in the morning you Mr. Adam
curry. Also in the morning they

1633
01:35:55,740 --> 01:35:58,230
all ships at sea boots on the
ground feeding the air subs in

1634
01:35:58,230 --> 01:35:59,790
the water and all the demons and
nights out there.

1635
01:35:59,820 --> 01:36:02,130
Yes. In the morning to everybody
in the chat room. No agenda

1636
01:36:02,130 --> 01:36:05,010
stream.com Thank you all for
being here. And massive numbers.

1637
01:36:05,010 --> 01:36:08,340
Good to have you and in the
morning to our artists of

1638
01:36:08,340 --> 01:36:14,280
supreme, Nick the rat, who got
it. He always gets it. When it

1639
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,820
comes to simple artwork. This of
course was for Episode Eight,

1640
01:36:17,820 --> 01:36:21,720
nine or two foot stomp. Yeah, he
did a blue hat with Make America

1641
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:26,700
sick again. Which was exactly,
exactly spot on spot on the

1642
01:36:26,700 --> 01:36:27,420
money. That's

1643
01:36:27,480 --> 01:36:28,770
actually what we requested.

1644
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:33,450
That was exactly it is indeed
exactly what we requested. And

1645
01:36:33,450 --> 01:36:37,980
it was something else I was
gonna say about that. Oh, yes,

1646
01:36:38,190 --> 01:36:42,870
the the title was foot stomp.
And we received a lot of a lot

1647
01:36:42,870 --> 01:36:46,140
of notes. I'm sure you receive
them as well, John, no, oh foot

1648
01:36:46,140 --> 01:36:51,660
stomp is it's a real training.
If you're a cadet in the army,

1649
01:36:52,650 --> 01:36:54,630
this is what you learn. We're
going to foot stomp that into

1650
01:36:54,630 --> 01:36:59,280
you. So it is a term it is a
military term that we just not

1651
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:00,090
familiar with.

1652
01:37:02,190 --> 01:37:06,090
Well, coming from the guys chief
DNI intelligence guy,

1653
01:37:06,269 --> 01:37:07,199
I'm just saying

1654
01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:13,950
No, I appreciate the the notice.
Well, let's thank a few people.

1655
01:37:14,070 --> 01:37:18,510
Okeydoke starting with our first
and only executive producer for

1656
01:37:18,510 --> 01:37:23,340
this show. Uncle Dave is
actually a guy. He's one of the

1657
01:37:23,370 --> 01:37:25,320
guys who contributed DeVore ag
blog.

1658
01:37:25,530 --> 01:37:27,510
Oh yeah, I know Uncle Dave Of
course,

1659
01:37:27,540 --> 01:37:31,470
Uncle Dave and he's also works
in the gaming industry. He's in

1660
01:37:31,470 --> 01:37:34,920
Henderson, Nevada, and he
donated 333 dot 33 And he left a

1661
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:38,820
note with a check. Uncle Dave
here after my invention of the

1662
01:37:38,820 --> 01:37:43,680
small boobs donation was pointed
out that the big boobs and small

1663
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,710
boobs donation leaves out a
portion of the female audience.

1664
01:37:47,010 --> 01:37:50,700
As a result I'm inaugurating the
flat chest a donation of

1665
01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:55,500
$111.11. What makes us an even
greater figures that if you

1666
01:37:55,500 --> 01:37:59,700
triple the amount, you get the
magic number donation of 33333.

1667
01:38:00,300 --> 01:38:00,900
Which is what

1668
01:38:00,900 --> 01:38:07,800
I've done nice. I like that flat
flat chest times 31111.

1669
01:38:08,670 --> 01:38:12,720
I'm in my early 60s, when saving
what I can show is not to have

1670
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,140
to retire to a mac and cheese
lifestyle. donating money

1671
01:38:16,140 --> 01:38:19,470
therefore has to be for
something truly important. And

1672
01:38:19,470 --> 01:38:25,980
that means no agenda. Nothing
pointed out how important what

1673
01:38:25,980 --> 01:38:30,060
you two are doing than the item
on Pearl Harbor Day. Were

1674
01:38:30,060 --> 01:38:33,900
students going to the memorial
weren't only ignorant about the

1675
01:38:33,900 --> 01:38:38,400
attack. They didn't even know
who we fought and who won the OH

1676
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:42,900
GOD remember that? Yeah, the
best podcast in the universe is

1677
01:38:42,900 --> 01:38:45,930
fighting this kind of ignorance
with with which the media and

1678
01:38:45,930 --> 01:38:50,340
government wants us slaves to
wallow in and it's that worthy

1679
01:38:50,340 --> 01:38:53,910
cash money out of my pocket and
that's worthy of my cash money

1680
01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:56,670
out of my pocket and Isn't that
always agree with your

1681
01:38:56,670 --> 01:39:02,280
conclusions in fact is precisely
then that I often learn the most

1682
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,700
by questioning what I thought I
knew or believed there you go

1683
01:39:05,700 --> 01:39:09,060
recent war on cash segment was a
special interest to me. I

1684
01:39:09,060 --> 01:39:11,490
recently had two credit cards
cancelled because both had

1685
01:39:11,490 --> 01:39:14,970
fraudulent charges on them. That
to their credit card companies

1686
01:39:14,970 --> 01:39:18,390
took off. Problem was until the
new cards are mailed to me and

1687
01:39:18,390 --> 01:39:22,800
activate I couldn't use their
man without cash. I had to use

1688
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,430
cash. Just another reason while
hearing someone say they don't

1689
01:39:26,430 --> 01:39:29,250
have any cash on them. I tell
them that's foolish because they

1690
01:39:29,250 --> 01:39:32,730
never know when they'll need to
bribe a cop. Pay off a judge or

1691
01:39:32,730 --> 01:39:37,140
bail a hooker out of jail. Happy
ways in Nevada appropriate

1692
01:39:37,140 --> 01:39:41,520
apropos of that Please play the
bush just send cash and the

1693
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:44,760
donating is love jingles. Keep
up the good work and always

1694
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,850
carry cash while listening to no
agenda. Good David Anderson

1695
01:39:47,850 --> 01:39:48,240
Nevada.

1696
01:39:48,540 --> 01:39:55,440
Okay. Donating is loving I think
was the title of that. Yes. And

1697
01:39:55,470 --> 01:39:59,970
I'll add a little extra one on
there for him. And Akarma Yes.

1698
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,820
Of course, take that to the
bank. You can take that to the

1699
01:40:02,820 --> 01:40:22,890
bank why? Because donating is I
forgot that you've got karma.

1700
01:40:27,150 --> 01:40:31,290
Nice. That was good. Thank you.
Anonymous Baronet and Las Vegas,

1701
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:35,520
Vegas, Nevada has robbed the
street from Uncle Dave to 2222

1702
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:39,330
Anonymous Bernetta have a hate
talking politics. So I'm sending

1703
01:40:39,330 --> 01:40:43,560
in this question about climate
change anonymously. The theme of

1704
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:45,720
the show is that the media
manipulation and propaganda are

1705
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,960
typically done for profit,
either to protect the profits of

1706
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:53,490
a company like Atrazine, or to
create new markets like vaccines

1707
01:40:53,490 --> 01:40:56,640
assuming climate change is BS,
who is spending all of the

1708
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,790
effort propagating this carbon
trading appears to be going

1709
01:40:59,790 --> 01:41:03,060
nowhere. Alternative Energy
proponents certainly use climate

1710
01:41:03,060 --> 01:41:06,810
change to sell solar panels. But
buying solar panels usually ends

1711
01:41:06,810 --> 01:41:12,060
up being a cost benefit analysis
by the homeowner. Many academics

1712
01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:15,000
receive lots of funding to study
climate change, but to what end?

1713
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:20,010
Where's the product? More papers
about climate change, lame books

1714
01:41:20,010 --> 01:41:23,280
and second rate documentaries.
If manmade climate change is

1715
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,370
happening, the effects appear to
be slow and subtle. The world is

1716
01:41:26,370 --> 01:41:29,370
certainly not ending in the next
50 years. Regardless, I'm not

1717
01:41:29,370 --> 01:41:33,390
seeing where the big profit scam
is, or how climate change itself

1718
01:41:33,390 --> 01:41:36,690
is a complete fiction and
insight you can provide would be

1719
01:41:36,690 --> 01:41:42,510
helpful. jingler Well, I said it
before I said this is a way to

1720
01:41:42,510 --> 01:41:47,340
identify the sheep associated
the grand scheme. It's a meta

1721
01:41:47,790 --> 01:41:51,720
bus tremely mad I agree. That'd
be very meta. Yeah, I'd say.

1722
01:41:52,380 --> 01:41:55,920
Okay. Onward. Anonymous Baronet
proof. Yeah, we'll keep it in

1723
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:59,130
mind. We'll look for there and
we'll I'm sure that there'll be

1724
01:41:59,130 --> 01:42:05,130
something shows up. Well, two or
$3.33. That was 222 22, I

1725
01:42:05,130 --> 01:42:08,640
believe. Correct. Correct. Dear
John, inanimate although I

1726
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,880
remain happily employed, I have
applied to a position at a firm

1727
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:14,280
on a different industry. I love
my current job. So things

1728
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:17,880
didn't. If so things don't work
out. It's no big deal. As such,

1729
01:42:18,060 --> 01:42:20,850
I would like to offer my
situation as an opportunity to

1730
01:42:20,850 --> 01:42:26,880
test the efficiency of the Trump
only jobs karma. We don't have a

1731
01:42:26,970 --> 01:42:31,080
Do we have a Trump? Oh, yes, we
do. Yes. Okay. As a bonus test,

1732
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:34,320
I will also attempt to leverage
my newly obtained Associate

1733
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,840
Executive producer credit at
some point during the hiring

1734
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:40,590
process should results from the
karma be forthcoming, I will

1735
01:42:40,590 --> 01:42:44,070
report back on my findings, the,
in the interest of further

1736
01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:46,050
establishing a robust knowledge.

1737
01:42:46,260 --> 01:42:48,840
This is good, I'm glad I'm very
happy with this dude, this is a

1738
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:49,740
great idea

1739
01:42:50,009 --> 01:42:52,049
is is a great idea. I'm
surprised someone else hasn't

1740
01:42:52,049 --> 01:42:54,539
done it. Well, it's gonna it's
risky. It's risky. You know,

1741
01:42:54,539 --> 01:42:58,739
it's it's risky. It's risky,
full of risk. He's going to roll

1742
01:42:58,739 --> 01:43:01,559
but he says establishing a
robust knowledge base regarding

1743
01:43:01,559 --> 01:43:06,779
no agenda, karma and special
temporal effects. spatial

1744
01:43:06,779 --> 01:43:10,859
temporal, temporal. All dualist
listeners should attest you to

1745
01:43:10,859 --> 01:43:14,789
serve a vital function by
providing an oasis of truth like

1746
01:43:14,969 --> 01:43:21,839
that, to those who struggle to
subsist on low fat diets. This

1747
01:43:21,839 --> 01:43:25,859
is great. Love and Light. So he
has jingle requests though Okay,

1748
01:43:25,859 --> 01:43:30,839
he wants Bill Nye These are
short he's too good. Bill nice

1749
01:43:30,839 --> 01:43:36,089
so come on champ. Yeah, I
thought was kind of a an

1750
01:43:36,089 --> 01:43:42,959
outrageous thing. To to the head
Don't be in denial and then the

1751
01:43:42,959 --> 01:43:45,089
aforementioned Trump jobs I

1752
01:43:45,090 --> 01:43:47,730
will I cannot wait to find out
if it works and he may be super

1753
01:43:47,730 --> 01:43:51,810
karma we don't know. We don't
know. We've been cautious in

1754
01:43:51,810 --> 01:43:53,490
testing that so. Okay, thank
you.

1755
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,500
Oh, come on champ. Show us are
tough.

1756
01:43:58,710 --> 01:43:59,880
The sciences

1757
01:44:02,430 --> 01:44:07,080
we are going to stand up for the
American worker like nobody has

1758
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:17,010
ever stood up for that worker
our economic agenda, not the

1759
01:44:17,010 --> 01:44:22,800
right word but very beautiful
words. Jobs. Jobs

1760
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,710
I mean, try the other one while
we're at it just to make Okay.

1761
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:36,300
jobs jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

1762
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:40,170
Now everything's in there.

1763
01:44:41,370 --> 01:44:43,590
Okay, we got two things are you
still you still have to be

1764
01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:45,810
broken down to I thought I had a

1765
01:44:47,010 --> 01:44:52,650
maybe this is it. Okay. This is
the one jobs jobs job. There we

1766
01:44:52,650 --> 01:44:52,920
go.

1767
01:44:54,330 --> 01:44:55,800
You've got karma.

1768
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:58,410
Karma. done those

1769
01:44:58,620 --> 01:45:01,380
guys. That guy's gonna be in The
Cabinet guys

1770
01:45:03,540 --> 01:45:08,100
but that ticked by all right,
finally Eric Ross in Corona,

1771
01:45:08,100 --> 01:45:10,950
California $200 John and Adam I
started listening to the

1772
01:45:10,950 --> 01:45:14,310
podcasts around the middle of
2016 and became an instant fan

1773
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:17,790
of the show. This is my first
donation and a de douche would

1774
01:45:17,790 --> 01:45:19,470
be greatly appreciate it.
Although

1775
01:45:21,390 --> 01:45:23,070
you've been de Deus.

1776
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,090
I was hit in the mouth by a co
worker and since then I've had a

1777
01:45:27,090 --> 01:45:30,630
few people myself, love and
light to you both for doing what

1778
01:45:30,630 --> 01:45:34,530
you're doing and keeping us
sane. Can I please get a we and

1779
01:45:34,530 --> 01:45:38,430
a Putin yell? I'd also love to
hear a drone again naturally at

1780
01:45:38,430 --> 01:45:40,590
the end of the show, if
possible. Yeah, I'll

1781
01:45:40,590 --> 01:45:42,900
give him the shorty here. We'll
do that one.

1782
01:45:52,590 --> 01:45:54,270
You've got karma.

1783
01:45:55,980 --> 01:45:58,080
Put the long version at the end
of the show. You got

1784
01:45:58,440 --> 01:46:01,350
concludes our small group of
executive and Associate

1785
01:46:01,350 --> 01:46:04,800
Executive producers for show 893

1786
01:46:04,890 --> 01:46:07,770
I believe yes, eight, nine or
three a couple of mentions here

1787
01:46:07,770 --> 01:46:10,740
at the top. I put a search back
in the show notes after enough

1788
01:46:10,740 --> 01:46:15,120
bitching, Ah, finally figured it
out. And it works very well also

1789
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:20,820
on mobile. They also wanted to
mention that we messed up our

1790
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:26,760
sole executive producer on the
previous episode, as we credited

1791
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:30,660
Andrew COPPA kin. But it's Adam
complicated.

1792
01:46:31,650 --> 01:46:35,880
Oh, yes. Okay. Well, so that's
taken care of right did in

1793
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:37,260
there. So yes, yes. I've

1794
01:46:37,260 --> 01:46:39,300
corrected it in the notes and
everywhere. I can, of course

1795
01:46:39,300 --> 01:46:42,000
can't go back and correct the
audio, but we apologize for

1796
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:48,600
that. Other good news, Dame
Angela from Las Vegas.

1797
01:46:48,630 --> 01:46:52,290
He was in the vortex I guess.
Yeah, he was. Adam. I'll see him

1798
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,140
later. He's going to come out to
the Bay Area. No.

1799
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:02,160
Dame Angela. from Vegas, of
course, who produced the I love

1800
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:06,180
laundry tour has agreed to
produce the the Australia and

1801
01:47:06,180 --> 01:47:07,020
New Zealand tour.

1802
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:09,750
Does it have a name yet a title?
Well, we

1803
01:47:09,750 --> 01:47:13,740
have a couple of names. The
Hokey Pokey tour, for some

1804
01:47:13,740 --> 01:47:19,650
reason is funny in New Zealand.
Yeah, the pavlova tour? Not sure

1805
01:47:19,650 --> 01:47:20,580
what that means?

1806
01:47:21,330 --> 01:47:23,400
I have a lot of Pavlov's dog.

1807
01:47:23,460 --> 01:47:27,570
I don't know the pavlova. I
don't know why. But I did get a

1808
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:31,770
kind of a concerning message.
Oh, yeah, that apparently

1809
01:47:31,770 --> 01:47:36,840
Australia is very sharp on
people who come in and do stuff

1810
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:40,110
without filing the proper
paperwork. So if you do a

1811
01:47:40,110 --> 01:47:43,470
documentary or anything else
like that, or if you come into

1812
01:47:44,220 --> 01:47:49,620
work and do shows that if they
if they hear about it, and the

1813
01:47:49,650 --> 01:47:52,350
person who told me said Yeah,
they're pretty sharp about this

1814
01:47:52,350 --> 01:47:55,200
stuff. It's not easy to do stuff
in Australia. You know, if you

1815
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,960
want to move there, you have to
be a rocket scientist or have a

1816
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:01,320
lot of money. That's pretty much
the only way I can be against

1817
01:48:01,350 --> 01:48:05,850
marriage. I couldn't get you in.
And he said, No, you really need

1818
01:48:05,850 --> 01:48:09,780
to get the proper paperwork to
do that, which I think is okay.

1819
01:48:09,810 --> 01:48:14,220
He is a producer even said,
probably if you talk to the

1820
01:48:14,220 --> 01:48:17,790
tourism bureau, they may even
pay for the trip, which I don't

1821
01:48:17,790 --> 01:48:20,280
really want. But I do want I
don't want to get kicked out of

1822
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:21,810
the country. If that's really
true.

1823
01:48:22,679 --> 01:48:26,009
I think it is you just Yeah, you
should do some. I would talk to

1824
01:48:26,009 --> 01:48:28,379
the tourism bureau right here to
help you out on this.

1825
01:48:28,530 --> 01:48:30,720
Right. But that but I don't
know, but I don't want it but

1826
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,600
I've done tourism bureau stuff.
And then it's like, Well, you

1827
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,180
got to talk about this. You got
to talk about what will fly on

1828
01:48:36,180 --> 01:48:38,040
cuantas you got to talk about
quantity.

1829
01:48:38,429 --> 01:48:40,769
But don't take the free trip.
Just have them expedite some of

1830
01:48:40,769 --> 01:48:42,059
these issues. Okay,

1831
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:45,270
well, we'll be working on that
anyway. So it's we're getting

1832
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:50,190
serious about this. I'm excited.
Okay. I'm glad you're equally as

1833
01:48:50,190 --> 01:48:52,740
excited about the tour. John.
That's fabulous. Thrilled I'm so

1834
01:48:52,740 --> 01:48:54,780
jacked. I'm sure you Oh, yes,
I'm still

1835
01:48:54,780 --> 01:48:57,480
trying to get the damn train
museum thing going here.

1836
01:48:58,140 --> 01:49:00,180
And thank you very much to our
executive and Associate

1837
01:49:00,180 --> 01:49:02,790
Executive producers would really
appreciate that and we'll be

1838
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:05,190
thanking more people later on in
our second segment. Remember

1839
01:49:05,190 --> 01:49:10,230
another show coming up on
thursday.org/n

1840
01:49:10,230 --> 01:49:10,410
Even

1841
01:49:10,410 --> 01:49:12,600
if you're down under your loops

1842
01:49:14,340 --> 01:49:17,370
that happened that's not what I
wanted. Even if you are down

1843
01:49:17,370 --> 01:49:19,860
under you can always get ready
for us by propagating the

1844
01:49:19,860 --> 01:49:20,670
formula our

1845
01:49:20,670 --> 01:49:33,120
formula is this we go out we hit
people in the mouth Hey citizens

1846
01:49:37,050 --> 01:49:43,830
factoring false Okay.

1847
01:49:47,010 --> 01:49:49,800
Baby, we talked about Fort
Lauderdale for a moment about

1848
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:50,310
the shooting.

1849
01:49:50,340 --> 01:49:54,240
Well, do we have any? Yes, we
shall have the long I have a

1850
01:49:54,240 --> 01:50:00,270
long. I have the full NBC
report. I have a car I have an

1851
01:50:00,270 --> 01:50:04,980
overview shorter report from NBC
but the blog report which is

1852
01:50:04,980 --> 01:50:10,170
long you can kill it but is
doing in all caps, says Fort

1853
01:50:10,170 --> 01:50:11,400
Lauderdale full.

1854
01:50:11,580 --> 01:50:14,370
Okay, what's long let me see
that's not too long. Let's have

1855
01:50:14,370 --> 01:50:15,420
a listen for a background

1856
01:50:15,450 --> 01:50:18,840
evening airport baggage claim
became a scene of carnage and

1857
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:22,380
bloodshed when a gunman began
firing into a crowd of arriving

1858
01:50:22,380 --> 01:50:25,740
passengers today at Florida's
Fort Lauderdale Hollywood

1859
01:50:25,740 --> 01:50:29,580
International Airport. 13 people
were shot five of them killed

1860
01:50:29,580 --> 01:50:33,330
before the 26 year old suspect
was finally subdued. The

1861
01:50:33,330 --> 01:50:36,750
shooting touched off a panic
that sent passengers and airport

1862
01:50:36,750 --> 01:50:40,410
workers fleeing onto the tarmac.
SWAT teams descended on the

1863
01:50:40,410 --> 01:50:43,470
airport amid concerns there
might be other attackers.

1864
01:50:43,500 --> 01:50:47,580
I got to say something about
that. When I saw the footage of

1865
01:50:47,580 --> 01:50:52,200
people running across runways,
all I thought to myself was this

1866
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:57,480
airport has no plan. That that
is a the security

1867
01:50:57,480 --> 01:51:01,320
risk is show security breach.
With that, that

1868
01:51:01,350 --> 01:51:05,760
that place had no plan. How can
people run out on active

1869
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:12,270
runways? Active taxiways. That
was that was truly insane. I was

1870
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:15,600
doing I kid got it. Yes, I know
how airports work. This was a

1871
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:16,440
breakdown.

1872
01:51:16,590 --> 01:51:19,980
But tonight Police say the
gunman operated alone and had

1873
01:51:19,980 --> 01:51:23,340
himself just arrived off the
flight and used a weapon that

1874
01:51:23,340 --> 01:51:26,550
had apparently been in his
checked luggage. Our team is in

1875
01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:29,760
full place with coverage of the
attack and the investigation.

1876
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:32,850
Let's begin with NBC News. Kerry
Sanders has been at the scene

1877
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,040
all afternoon. Jerry what's the
latest?

1878
01:51:36,390 --> 01:51:39,480
Well, good evening, Lester. The
airport remain shut down all

1879
01:51:39,480 --> 01:51:43,770
roads in and out closed. There
are 10s of 1000s of passengers

1880
01:51:43,770 --> 01:51:47,580
who are being told to still
remain here and shelter in place

1881
01:51:47,580 --> 01:51:51,120
and many of them are panicked
and anxious even now after

1882
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:56,400
witnessing the horrific deaths
here. Just before 1pm has

1883
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,670
passengers gathered in baggage
claim and terminal two shots

1884
01:51:59,670 --> 01:52:03,660
fired a chaotic and horrific
scene. Bags scattered frightened

1885
01:52:03,660 --> 01:52:06,480
passengers and airport workers
streaming out gathering on the

1886
01:52:06,480 --> 01:52:15,270
tarmac. Officials responding
within minutes I've been working

1887
01:52:15,270 --> 01:52:20,820
on it this time on tactical
channel one. casualty incident.

1888
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:24,420
One witness told us the shooter
was relentless.

1889
01:52:24,660 --> 01:52:28,620
He continued firing. And I know
that at one point he stopped and

1890
01:52:28,620 --> 01:52:31,350
reloaded and continued firing
again

1891
01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:34,080
the Wechsler family. We're
headed home to Denver after a

1892
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:35,250
Caribbean cruise.

1893
01:52:35,310 --> 01:52:37,050
We looked down the end of the
terminal and started seeing

1894
01:52:37,050 --> 01:52:39,480
people running. It might be a
good idea to get out of

1895
01:52:39,480 --> 01:52:43,950
there when it was over eight
wounded five dead. Broward

1896
01:52:43,950 --> 01:52:47,190
County SWAT teams deputies in
the FBI swarmed the area

1897
01:52:47,190 --> 01:52:50,250
immediately looking for the
suspect apprehending him shortly

1898
01:52:50,250 --> 01:52:55,320
after 26 year old estava and
Santiago. His route he flew on

1899
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:58,470
Delta Airlines from Anchorage to
Minneapolis and on to Fort

1900
01:52:58,470 --> 01:53:01,470
Lauderdale. Nine hours in the
air. The weapon he used in the

1901
01:53:01,470 --> 01:53:04,320
attack was in his checked
luggage. According to witnesses

1902
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:07,920
after he got his luggage. He
then got the gun loaded in a

1903
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:11,580
bathroom and began shooting
without saying a word he

1904
01:53:11,580 --> 01:53:15,240
allegedly reloaded several
times. Once he ran out of

1905
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:19,290
bullets he allegedly put the gun
down and got down on the floor

1906
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:20,760
waiting for authorities.

1907
01:53:20,850 --> 01:53:29,250
We have the shooter in custody.
He's unharmed no law enforcement

1908
01:53:29,250 --> 01:53:33,420
fired any shots. The subject is
being interviewed by a team of

1909
01:53:33,420 --> 01:53:34,530
FBI agents

1910
01:53:35,460 --> 01:53:38,400
all right that is part of the
background we're missing some

1911
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:40,950
pieces there but that wasn't
well I got another little while

1912
01:53:41,370 --> 01:53:44,310
before we do that before we do
that because I want to get into

1913
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:48,300
that I know what you got to do.
First we need to go into the

1914
01:53:48,300 --> 01:53:51,840
immediate reaction and analysis
that was taking place on the

1915
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:55,470
news channels CNN knows exactly
what's gonna happen with their

1916
01:53:55,500 --> 01:53:59,040
panel of former secret service
dudes and other dishes. This is

1917
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:00,840
a wow this is never heard of
this.

1918
01:54:00,870 --> 01:54:03,570
I just brought you know I
brought two handguns down to

1919
01:54:04,140 --> 01:54:05,280
Charleston South Carolina

1920
01:54:06,690 --> 01:54:08,520
what what did

1921
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:11,490
they immediately make that the
point your wait wait you'll hear

1922
01:54:11,490 --> 01:54:11,700
it

1923
01:54:12,599 --> 01:54:14,939
would you have to do is you have
to go when you go to Kennedy.

1924
01:54:15,059 --> 01:54:17,729
You go to the Port Authority
police. They check your weapon

1925
01:54:17,729 --> 01:54:20,099
they check my permit, make sure
everything's okay then it's

1926
01:54:20,099 --> 01:54:22,499
gotta be put in your luggage.
Yeah, so apparently anybody can

1927
01:54:22,499 --> 01:54:25,409
do that who's licensed? You
know, because the police at that

1928
01:54:25,409 --> 01:54:28,679
airport was specifically showed
us so I think this man put this

1929
01:54:28,679 --> 01:54:31,739
weapon in his luggage like like
that. And whether or not he

1930
01:54:31,739 --> 01:54:33,689
checked it or not. There's a
possibility they might not have

1931
01:54:33,689 --> 01:54:35,909
caught it. All right, and was
able to recruit

1932
01:54:35,910 --> 01:54:37,110
it down communally, lawfully,

1933
01:54:38,970 --> 01:54:42,240
lawfully, totally lawfully and
then decide to do this. So

1934
01:54:43,380 --> 01:54:45,900
changing. You can see no
question about that

1935
01:54:45,900 --> 01:54:47,700
can be new legislation. Yep.

1936
01:54:48,090 --> 01:54:51,630
Yeah, definitely. Definitely a
game changer at this point that

1937
01:54:51,630 --> 01:54:55,470
just Just that fact if that is,
if that's correct, you know,

1938
01:54:55,500 --> 01:54:57,840
you're checking checking
firearms is going to change, you

1939
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:01,620
know, moving forward. I mean, it
almost had assume this is now a

1940
01:55:01,620 --> 01:55:06,030
new and it's it's unfortunate.

1941
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:10,860
It's just when you think of
everything we go through to get

1942
01:55:10,860 --> 01:55:15,870
on a plane these days right
shoes, liquids searching, to

1943
01:55:15,870 --> 01:55:20,580
think that you know, someone
could grab a firearm and could

1944
01:55:20,580 --> 01:55:22,470
place it in there lawfully if
you fill out the proper

1945
01:55:22,470 --> 01:55:25,410
paperwork, right? And then you
get to baggage claim right? And

1946
01:55:25,410 --> 01:55:28,860
you pull the gun out, because
there's no metal detectors. What

1947
01:55:28,860 --> 01:55:29,940
a disaster correctly. Now.

1948
01:55:30,180 --> 01:55:32,730
Clearly, we have to look at this
loophole. It needs to be

1949
01:55:33,090 --> 01:55:34,080
completely changed.

1950
01:55:34,110 --> 01:55:36,960
Yeah, has to be completely stop.

1951
01:55:39,420 --> 01:55:43,110
Are these people insane? Tell me
what the difference is between

1952
01:55:43,110 --> 01:55:47,760
what that guy did. And me taking
a gun or saying the guy himself

1953
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:51,960
taking a gun? Going down to the
second level walking into

1954
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:55,230
baggage claim, which there is no
there was zero?

1955
01:55:55,230 --> 01:55:58,350
Exactly It is of course, it's
the accounting shooting up the

1956
01:55:58,350 --> 01:56:01,350
place you couldn't you couldn't
walk straight into baggage claim

1957
01:56:01,350 --> 01:56:06,780
everybody can walk into baggage
claim. Yeah, that's over. No

1958
01:56:06,780 --> 01:56:07,410
more happy to

1959
01:56:07,740 --> 01:56:10,560
change all the laws because of
this situation. Even though that

1960
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:11,850
situation as John

1961
01:56:12,060 --> 01:56:15,810
is to think about it, think
about it, if you are L three or

1962
01:56:15,810 --> 01:56:19,950
one of these Homeland Security,
you know, contracted companies.

1963
01:56:20,670 --> 01:56:25,770
Oh my now we get to protect
baggage claim, which means we'll

1964
01:56:25,770 --> 01:56:28,530
have you know, you have to come
in through a metal detector or a

1965
01:56:28,530 --> 01:56:31,620
body scan or you can't just come
no more happy hellos at the

1966
01:56:31,620 --> 01:56:39,240
airport. No, no. Shut up and sit
in the cell phone lot. There's a

1967
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,670
meme for two, we have a meme. I
mean,

1968
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:46,500
the other challenge that we have
is that you are able to check a

1969
01:56:46,500 --> 01:56:51,690
firearm and the procedures here
in place were followed. But we

1970
01:56:51,690 --> 01:56:54,780
most definitely and I'm gonna go
back to Washington and start

1971
01:56:54,780 --> 01:56:59,400
work on this need to review the
procedures, not only the

1972
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:01,800
question of whether or not you
should be allowed to check a

1973
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:05,130
firearm when you travel at all,
rather than shipping or

1974
01:57:05,730 --> 01:57:10,680
transported in some other way.
But we need to more minute ly

1975
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:14,280
examine the question. If humans
aren't going to continue to

1976
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:17,520
allow that. In what way? Are we
going to reunite you with your

1977
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:18,120
firearm?

1978
01:57:18,270 --> 01:57:24,270
I love that. How we will reunite
you with your firearm? Debbie

1979
01:57:24,270 --> 01:57:25,200
Wasserman Schultz,

1980
01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:31,950
yes, we could tell that horrible
voice of hers, like scraping

1981
01:57:31,950 --> 01:57:34,110
your fingernails on a
chalkboard.

1982
01:57:34,350 --> 01:57:38,430
Now, a piece of information came
out and and then where it came

1983
01:57:38,430 --> 01:57:43,320
from all the reports, I have
been able to assess. It was not

1984
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:47,070
from the intelligence agencies
themselves, or from the FBI

1985
01:57:47,070 --> 01:57:50,010
themselves, I'd have not been
able to find an official

1986
01:57:50,070 --> 01:57:53,100
statement from them. But
everyone was in New Jersey, they

1987
01:57:53,100 --> 01:57:57,060
were outside some ontem. Some
reporters got in, talk to them,

1988
01:57:57,150 --> 01:57:59,550
a number of reporters were able
to go inside and speak to the

1989
01:57:59,550 --> 01:58:04,200
ad. And the aunt actually said
that her nephew had a baby that

1990
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:07,950
he's the youngest of five
siblings. They live both in

1991
01:58:07,950 --> 01:58:11,610
Puerto Rico and also in Florida,
which may explain why he was on

1992
01:58:11,610 --> 01:58:15,660
his way to Florida. She said
that he served in Iraq, from

1993
01:58:15,930 --> 01:58:22,170
December, I'm sorry, from April
2010 to February 2011. That was

1994
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:25,410
in Iraq. He was deployed when he
returned, she said that he was

1995
01:58:25,410 --> 01:58:30,660
really acting strangely. And he
was discharged in August of this

1996
01:58:30,660 --> 01:58:34,050
past year. And a couple of
months later, that's when he

1997
01:58:34,050 --> 01:58:37,350
walked into the FBI agent saying
that somebody from the US

1998
01:58:37,350 --> 01:58:40,230
intelligence agency was was
speaking to him. He was heard of

1999
01:58:40,230 --> 01:58:43,470
hearing these voices. And that's
when he was questioned and taken

2000
01:58:43,470 --> 01:58:46,530
to a medical facility for that
medical evaluation.

2001
01:58:47,700 --> 01:58:55,890
So FBI does admit that, in fact,
I have the second I think it's

2002
01:58:55,920 --> 01:59:00,360
this one. They admit that he did
walk into an FBI office but no

2003
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:05,370
mention of this. Alaska. Yeah,
but yes, but no mention of this.

2004
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:09,270
This intelligence talking to him
and telling him to watch ISIS

2005
01:59:09,270 --> 01:59:11,520
videos, but this is what the
official word was. The

2006
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:11,970
individual

2007
01:59:11,970 --> 01:59:16,500
did walk into our anchorage
office in November, he came in

2008
01:59:16,650 --> 01:59:21,270
and spoke with FBI agents. At
that time, he clearly stated

2009
01:59:21,270 --> 01:59:25,470
that he did not intend to harm
anyone. However, his erratic

2010
01:59:25,500 --> 01:59:30,960
behavior concerned FBI agents
that were interviewing him, and

2011
01:59:30,990 --> 01:59:35,490
they contacted local police and
turned him over to the local

2012
01:59:35,490 --> 01:59:38,400
police. He was taken into
custody by the local police and

2013
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:42,210
transported to a medical
facility for a mental health

2014
01:59:42,270 --> 01:59:49,560
evaluation. We looked at his
contacts we looked at, we did

2015
01:59:49,590 --> 01:59:52,800
our interagency checks and
everything. And at that point,

2016
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:54,330
we closed our assessment.

2017
01:59:54,570 --> 01:59:57,510
Alright, so two things about
this one, this is the second the

2018
01:59:57,510 --> 02:00:00,900
second FBI failure the previous
one was the The Orlando

2019
02:00:00,900 --> 02:00:06,750
nightclub shooter pulse. Omar
Mateen. He also was investigated

2020
02:00:06,750 --> 02:00:10,890
by FBI. So two failures, I have
to call it a failure. But what

2021
02:00:10,890 --> 02:00:12,840
interests No, no.

2022
02:00:14,099 --> 02:00:15,479
That's a nice pointing. Well,

2023
02:00:15,539 --> 02:00:17,819
let me let me just finish and
then that may help you with your

2024
02:00:17,819 --> 02:00:23,609
point of view. This FBI agent on
the scene. They flashed up his

2025
02:00:23,609 --> 02:00:26,219
name George Piero. I'm like,
wait a minute, I know this guy.

2026
02:00:26,759 --> 02:00:32,039
George Piero is not just any FBI
agent. He is the special agent

2027
02:00:32,039 --> 02:00:35,849
in charge. At the Federal Bureau
of Investigations Miami field

2028
02:00:35,849 --> 02:00:39,359
office, he was the team leader
and lead interrogator of the

2029
02:00:39,359 --> 02:00:43,949
Saddam Hussein interrogation
team. This is the guy who

2030
02:00:43,949 --> 02:00:48,479
interrogated Hussein while he
was imprisoned in Iraq. And

2031
02:00:48,479 --> 02:00:52,139
through his conversations, he
learned that Iraq did not have

2032
02:00:52,139 --> 02:00:55,259
weapons of mass destruction at
the time of the invasion. 2003

2033
02:00:55,439 --> 02:01:00,059
But he had some other info. But
this guy is a is a top notch

2034
02:01:00,119 --> 02:01:05,159
terrorism guy from the FBI. I
thought that was interesting. He

2035
02:01:05,159 --> 02:01:05,879
shows up.

2036
02:01:06,809 --> 02:01:09,329
Yes to I would think

2037
02:01:09,509 --> 02:01:13,409
he was in 22,007. He was serving
as supervisory FBI Joint

2038
02:01:13,409 --> 02:01:20,369
Terrorism Task Force in the
Washington Field Office. So I

2039
02:01:20,369 --> 02:01:23,549
don't know I just thought, okay,
that's that's an interesting guy

2040
02:01:23,549 --> 02:01:26,039
to roll out to be the spokes
haul for this incident.

2041
02:01:26,070 --> 02:01:29,220
Yes, it seems unlikely. I don't
know why they do that. Play that

2042
02:01:29,220 --> 02:01:31,980
for this one. This is a good
it's somewhat of an analysis

2043
02:01:31,980 --> 02:01:35,790
after the long ABC NBC report is
the Fort Lauderdale Airport

2044
02:01:35,790 --> 02:01:37,410
shooting clip.

2045
02:01:39,540 --> 02:01:40,950
Oh, yes, I have it here. Got it.

2046
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:43,500
That's correspondent Pete
Williams has been working his

2047
02:01:43,500 --> 02:01:46,620
sources all day. He joins us now
from Washington with new

2048
02:01:46,620 --> 02:01:48,390
details. Pete What can you tell
us?

2049
02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:51,180
Well, Leicester law enforcement
officials say tonight that they

2050
02:01:51,180 --> 02:01:54,930
do not consider this an act of
terrorism. They say the suspect

2051
02:01:54,930 --> 02:01:59,580
was struggling with serious
mental health issues. Officials

2052
02:01:59,580 --> 02:02:02,700
say estaban Santiago was
undergoing treatment for mental

2053
02:02:02,700 --> 02:02:06,060
health problems complaining that
he was hearing voices. They say

2054
02:02:06,060 --> 02:02:09,270
a few months ago he walked into
the FBIs office in Anchorage,

2055
02:02:09,390 --> 02:02:12,750
complaining that the CIA was
forcing him to join ISIS.

2056
02:02:13,110 --> 02:02:15,420
Officials say the local police
were called and he went

2057
02:02:15,420 --> 02:02:21,030
voluntarily to a mental health
facility for treatment. His aunt

2058
02:02:21,030 --> 02:02:23,970
and uncle in Union City New
Jersey near where officials say

2059
02:02:23,970 --> 02:02:27,540
Santiago was born say they
believe he developed problems

2060
02:02:27,540 --> 02:02:31,440
after a military deployment
overseas military record show he

2061
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:35,040
signed up for the National Guard
in 2007. While he was living in

2062
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:38,550
Puerto Rico, where the family is
from the record show he was on

2063
02:02:38,550 --> 02:02:42,360
duty as a combat engineer for 10
months in Iraq returning five

2064
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:46,440
years ago. He was discharged
last August. Family members say

2065
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:49,920
he went to Alaska looking for
work where he had a son and was

2066
02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:53,790
receiving psychological
counseling their investigators

2067
02:02:53,790 --> 02:02:56,850
say they've heard from witnesses
that who say he got into an

2068
02:02:56,850 --> 02:03:00,990
altercation on board one of the
flights but whatever that was,

2069
02:03:01,290 --> 02:03:04,530
it wasn't serious enough for the
airline to call the police. So

2070
02:03:04,710 --> 02:03:08,850
tonight it's still unanswered
why he opened fire and why in

2071
02:03:08,850 --> 02:03:10,710
the Fort Lauderdale Airport
Lester

2072
02:03:10,740 --> 02:03:13,320
Pete Williams Thank you Pete and
worried that the alleged gunman

2073
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:16,290
had apparently retrieved a
firearm from his check baggage

2074
02:03:16,290 --> 02:03:19,350
before opening fire. It's
shining a spotlight and a whole

2075
02:03:19,350 --> 02:03:22,740
new set of concerns among them.
What are the restrictions on

2076
02:03:22,740 --> 02:03:24,000
checking away and border

2077
02:03:24,269 --> 02:03:26,039
finish and what have I done?
Yeah,

2078
02:03:26,070 --> 02:03:29,670
well, there's a simple fix but
that's not going to be the fix

2079
02:03:29,670 --> 02:03:32,220
that come up with me you can
obviously say you can check your

2080
02:03:32,580 --> 02:03:36,360
your firearm but no ammo. That
would be the well it'd be good.

2081
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:39,870
Yeah, that's not going to but
the problem is obvious and the

2082
02:03:39,870 --> 02:03:43,410
solution is a bunch of money
waiting to be picked up as well.

2083
02:03:43,410 --> 02:03:44,040
Yeah, yeah. It

2084
02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:48,450
shows right to me. Yeah. Now I
was concerned about I mean, I'm

2085
02:03:48,450 --> 02:03:51,780
gonna have my I have a crackpot
theory I'm taking your position

2086
02:03:51,780 --> 02:03:54,720
in this you come up with
something better, but theory

2087
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:58,320
about this whole thing. Okay.
But I was very concerned about

2088
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:01,020
the widespread panic that took
place and you talked about a

2089
02:04:01,020 --> 02:04:04,590
little bit already but
apparently it was way beyond

2090
02:04:04,590 --> 02:04:06,810
that with people in the other
terminals thinking something was

2091
02:04:06,810 --> 02:04:11,610
going on in there and the
general public it's very it's to

2092
02:04:11,610 --> 02:04:15,840
me it's very disconcerting how
they panic to such an extreme.

2093
02:04:16,140 --> 02:04:18,000
And it's almost as though this
was like a test of

2094
02:04:18,059 --> 02:04:23,039
everybody is is so wired and so
keyed and so has been so

2095
02:04:23,039 --> 02:04:26,069
traumatized. About airport
shooting. Thank

2096
02:04:26,070 --> 02:04:30,900
you media. Yes. Could we play
this this is a clip from NBC

2097
02:04:30,900 --> 02:04:33,630
said discussing that would
happen after the guy was

2098
02:04:33,630 --> 02:04:38,220
actually already in custody.
Which one is the job of Fort

2099
02:04:38,220 --> 02:04:40,650
Lauderdale widespread panic,
yes.

2100
02:04:42,270 --> 02:04:47,040
And around 230 more chaos panic
in another terminal terminal

2101
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:50,160
one. As passengers they are
thought they heard more shots.

2102
02:04:50,250 --> 02:04:52,890
Authorities telling them to
evacuate also to evacuate

2103
02:04:52,890 --> 02:04:57,150
terminal to people ran outside
falling in the rush to get away.

2104
02:04:57,660 --> 02:05:00,870
Others like Callie Hazel Grove
hiding them. She could,

2105
02:05:01,170 --> 02:05:05,670
there was another shooting and
we hid behind something like

2106
02:05:05,670 --> 02:05:08,760
this in the airport for a while.
And then we realized everyone

2107
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:10,290
else was gone. So we ran outside

2108
02:05:10,380 --> 02:05:13,560
those already outside running
and crouching, taking cover

2109
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:18,060
behind cars. Around the same
time reports of a suspicious

2110
02:05:18,060 --> 02:05:21,270
person in a parking garage
nearby, you would later turn out

2111
02:05:21,300 --> 02:05:24,360
nothing was going on in the
garage. And there were no shots

2112
02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:27,420
fired in Terminal One.
Meanwhile, a complete ground

2113
02:05:27,420 --> 02:05:30,870
stop, John, all flights in and
out of Fort Lauderdale Hollywood

2114
02:05:30,870 --> 02:05:33,270
International Airport. Yeah.

2115
02:05:34,410 --> 02:05:37,410
I find that to be well, there.
There was other things. I mean,

2116
02:05:37,410 --> 02:05:41,340
first, the timing of this was
was interesting. At the same

2117
02:05:41,340 --> 02:05:45,750
moment, the intelligence
assessment came out. So it was

2118
02:05:45,750 --> 02:05:48,900
like flip flopping back and
forth. And I'm pretty sure that

2119
02:05:49,170 --> 02:05:54,300
it's much easier just for people
just to hear the headline. Putin

2120
02:05:54,300 --> 02:05:56,880
something okay. Yeah. Because
they're all looking to everyone

2121
02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:59,730
who's no one's afraid when it
comes to Russia or crashing or

2122
02:05:59,730 --> 02:06:02,580
being shot at an airline in the
airport. People are gonna watch

2123
02:06:02,580 --> 02:06:06,240
the airport. And of course, you
know, when you have a guy

2124
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:10,260
saying, they're talking in my
head telling me to watch ISIS

2125
02:06:10,260 --> 02:06:12,660
videos, there's something going
on?

2126
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:16,050
Well, I thought this was an
here's what I thought at from

2127
02:06:16,050 --> 02:06:19,980
the most extreme crackpot
perspective. And I've learned

2128
02:06:19,980 --> 02:06:23,520
this from you. Yes. And also
taught you well, my son, yes.

2129
02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:29,340
And basically, based on what
we've seen before, for the past

2130
02:06:29,340 --> 02:06:33,060
two, or three or four or five
years that we've deconstructed

2131
02:06:34,290 --> 02:06:37,410
this guy, his eye and it's
almost a comedy scene in a funny

2132
02:06:37,410 --> 02:06:42,630
movie. This guy has been,
supposedly now this is only from

2133
02:06:42,630 --> 02:06:44,550
right wing talk shows that it
doesn't show up in any of the

2134
02:06:44,550 --> 02:06:48,090
mainstream news media. He's a
converted Muslim. Yes, that's

2135
02:06:48,090 --> 02:06:48,990
what I heard as well.

2136
02:06:49,500 --> 02:06:53,730
And he was living near what the
apparently the only mosque he

2137
02:06:53,730 --> 02:06:56,010
wasn't living near. He was a
mile away from it. But it was

2138
02:06:56,010 --> 02:06:58,590
from the only mosque in Alaska.
And that's why he was living in

2139
02:06:58,590 --> 02:07:03,900
that little area. Uh huh. And so
I think he was targeted. This

2140
02:07:03,900 --> 02:07:07,140
the crackpot theory now I'm
liking it. So far, so good. He

2141
02:07:07,140 --> 02:07:11,040
was targeted by the FBI to be
one of the Stooges because he

2142
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:13,740
was at convert. He has all the
right elements. Now you say, Oh,

2143
02:07:13,740 --> 02:07:16,050
look, even the Puerto Ricans are
susceptible to this sort of

2144
02:07:16,050 --> 02:07:18,930
thing. Yeah. And they and
veteran

2145
02:07:18,930 --> 02:07:22,710
veteran veteran, you got crazy
PTSD veteran. Everything's in

2146
02:07:22,710 --> 02:07:23,070
there.

2147
02:07:23,610 --> 02:07:27,060
So the FBI poses as the CIA.

2148
02:07:27,630 --> 02:07:30,000
Oh, man, yes.

2149
02:07:31,110 --> 02:07:34,650
To get him which they've done
before. Yep, they've done this

2150
02:07:34,650 --> 02:07:38,130
before they poses another
agency. And they get him to get

2151
02:07:38,130 --> 02:07:40,860
they tried to get him on board
with a scheme of theirs, which

2152
02:07:40,860 --> 02:07:43,920
is an FBI scheme to become like
a shooter that they you know,

2153
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:47,400
gets killed in the process,
which was the idea, of course,

2154
02:07:47,700 --> 02:07:50,700
which is the idea at the end
should have been killed. And so

2155
02:07:50,700 --> 02:07:56,850
then he stupidly goes to the FBI
itself, and they're aware of

2156
02:07:56,850 --> 02:08:00,360
this situation is Oh, my God,
this guy's in here talking to

2157
02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:05,700
us. Throw him in the nuthouse as
fast as you can. So they have

2158
02:08:05,700 --> 02:08:09,420
him arrested. They throw him
into the insane asylum nearby.

2159
02:08:09,420 --> 02:08:13,020
But a clerical error lets him
out. A cleric of well, either

2160
02:08:13,020 --> 02:08:16,170
that or he gets out now some way
or another after he's been

2161
02:08:16,170 --> 02:08:19,140
programmed, at least or
unprepared, programmed enough so

2162
02:08:19,290 --> 02:08:22,620
that he knows to go to Florida
and shoot up the place with a

2163
02:08:22,620 --> 02:08:26,490
gun that he apparently has with
him and hit the ideas. He goes

2164
02:08:26,490 --> 02:08:30,570
nuts there, the Florida police
go crazy and kill him. Boom,

2165
02:08:30,570 --> 02:08:31,680
problem solved.

2166
02:08:32,639 --> 02:08:35,099
Yeah, that didn't work out the
way they wanted it to. This will

2167
02:08:35,099 --> 02:08:35,879
be interesting. As

2168
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,400
he surrendered, he put the gun
down and then went into the

2169
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:40,950
position where you agree if you
shoot me, it's just murder.

2170
02:08:40,980 --> 02:08:44,490
Yeah. And so they arrested him,
which was the big screw up in

2171
02:08:44,490 --> 02:08:51,450
this scheme. I'm all in. I'm all
in. So now he's got a crackpot

2172
02:08:51,450 --> 02:08:53,940
theory. Oh, they haven't this.
Yeah, he's involved. He's bald.

2173
02:08:54,090 --> 02:08:58,770
This was all part of the old six
week cycle. And somebody just

2174
02:08:58,770 --> 02:09:01,830
messed up. They picked the wrong
guy. They didn't evaluate him

2175
02:09:01,830 --> 02:09:07,680
properly. He wasn't gonna go for
any of this. So now, they're

2176
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:10,320
gonna have to kill him while
he's in custody. Now, did

2177
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:14,850
he travel through Canada when he
came through? No. Okay. He never

2178
02:09:14,850 --> 02:09:17,430
traveled to Canada. It was a
flight to Minnesota,

2179
02:09:17,430 --> 02:09:21,510
Minneapolis. From Alaska. That
means he was flying on Northwest

2180
02:09:21,540 --> 02:09:23,790
right? It was they never
mentioned I don't know what the

2181
02:09:23,790 --> 02:09:26,310
point of this Canadian story was
all about. I didn't quite

2182
02:09:26,310 --> 02:09:29,370
understand that either. Go the
Canadians the Canadians don't

2183
02:09:29,370 --> 02:09:32,220
let you do you have a gun in the
condo? They don't I think it was

2184
02:09:32,220 --> 02:09:36,030
just no I checked the needle
that Canadians Yeah. I think was

2185
02:09:36,030 --> 02:09:38,640
the needle the Canadians the
Canadian airlines really came

2186
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:41,790
out too hard and strong all over
the places it is bullcrap. This

2187
02:09:41,790 --> 02:09:44,520
guy's not on our any of our
itineraries. Right. They did

2188
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:47,760
that everyone dropped that line
of everything. They just said,

2189
02:09:47,790 --> 02:09:50,640
Oh, I guess we were wrong. And
but no, he went from Minneapolis

2190
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:52,170
into good five from Minneapolis.
So

2191
02:09:52,170 --> 02:09:54,900
in this case, you know, you're
kind of like shields, you know,

2192
02:09:55,410 --> 02:10:00,720
or Brooks KNOW WHAT ARE YOU
Brooks you're I got my side of

2193
02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:04,560
the fence up. where's the
where's the pushback? Yeah, I

2194
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:08,280
know, bad, very bad. It's
programmatically wrong, but

2195
02:10:08,280 --> 02:10:09,660
okay. I like it

2196
02:10:11,490 --> 02:10:13,800
makes more sense than any other
narrative.

2197
02:10:13,830 --> 02:10:16,950
Yeah, well, MK Ultra is alive
and well, as far as I'm

2198
02:10:16,950 --> 02:10:22,680
concerned. You know, on the last
show, we were talking about the,

2199
02:10:23,940 --> 02:10:28,260
the four black youths who had
kidnapped the white youth and

2200
02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:34,470
tortured him and broadcasted on
Facebook Live. And we were

2201
02:10:34,470 --> 02:10:37,350
talking about how the, you know,
the media obviously, was not

2202
02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:40,980
playing it up as as, as they
would if the roles have been

2203
02:10:40,980 --> 02:10:45,870
reversed, if it had been for
white youth and black youth. So

2204
02:10:45,870 --> 02:10:48,270
I have a couple of clips because
what was interesting is that no

2205
02:10:48,270 --> 02:10:51,840
one wanted to classify this in
the media, or even in the White

2206
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:55,170
House, you'll hear in a moment
as a hate crime. And I think

2207
02:10:55,170 --> 02:11:00,750
that we're all so afraid to be
the first to classified as a

2208
02:11:00,750 --> 02:11:03,540
hate crime in case you know,
they were on the wrong side of

2209
02:11:03,540 --> 02:11:08,670
history. It was really, really,
really literacy to watch and I

2210
02:11:08,670 --> 02:11:13,710
ended up just before I roll out
these set of clips. The FBI

2211
02:11:13,710 --> 02:11:17,160
fbi.gov Has the definition of a
hate crime on their website. So

2212
02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:22,410
let's review what a hate crime
is. Just so we can see what they

2213
02:11:22,410 --> 02:11:26,040
were hemming and hawing about.
Yes, I hate crime do yes, they

2214
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:30,690
hate crime is a traditional
offense, like murder, arson, or

2215
02:11:30,690 --> 02:11:35,760
vandalism with an added element
of bias. For the purposes of

2216
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:40,110
collecting statistics, the FBI
has defined a hate crime as and

2217
02:11:40,110 --> 02:11:44,340
I quote, criminal offenses
against a person or property

2218
02:11:44,490 --> 02:11:49,140
motivated in whole or in part by
an offender's bias against a

2219
02:11:49,140 --> 02:11:54,960
race, religion, disability,
sexual orientation, ethnicity,

2220
02:11:55,020 --> 02:12:00,150
gender, or gender identity. Hate
itself is not a crime and the

2221
02:12:00,150 --> 02:12:02,850
FBI is mindful of protecting
freedom of speech and other

2222
02:12:02,850 --> 02:12:07,020
civil liberties. So that is the
definition of a hate crime. Not

2223
02:12:07,020 --> 02:12:10,380
that hard that we have. We
actually have a political thing

2224
02:12:10,380 --> 02:12:14,880
in here because of the Trump. We
have a racial thing here because

2225
02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:18,570
it's black versus white. And we
have a disability thing in here

2226
02:12:18,570 --> 02:12:23,280
so it kind of hits three of the
main points but nails it

2227
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:28,890
everyone's rule. Let's be quiet.
Let's not and now CBS these

2228
02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:33,210
these eight holes are so biased.
This is the initial reporting

2229
02:12:33,210 --> 02:12:35,820
from CBS radio radio news.

2230
02:12:36,030 --> 02:12:39,630
The viral video of a beating a
knife attack in Chicago suggests

2231
02:12:39,630 --> 02:12:43,410
the assault had racial
overtones. CBS de manos tells us

2232
02:12:43,410 --> 02:12:49,230
the victim is described as a
mentally challenged teenager. In

2233
02:12:49,230 --> 02:12:53,040
the video, he is choked and
repeatedly called the N word and

2234
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:56,850
His clothes are slashed and he
is terrorized with a knife is

2235
02:12:56,850 --> 02:13:00,300
alleged captors repeatedly
referenced Donald Trump police

2236
02:13:00,300 --> 02:13:02,700
are holding for people in
connection with the attack.

2237
02:13:02,730 --> 02:13:07,080
Now does that sound like it was
reversed to you?

2238
02:13:07,860 --> 02:13:11,730
That's exactly what it sounds
like. And it's so shameful that

2239
02:13:11,730 --> 02:13:15,900
CBS went out of its way to pull
every example that you cannot

2240
02:13:15,900 --> 02:13:16,890
get that clip now.

2241
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:20,370
I know they pull it off. I got
it. Thank goodness. Yes,

2242
02:13:20,370 --> 02:13:22,620
batteries, shameful indeed.

2243
02:13:23,010 --> 02:13:25,860
They call it was the worst
example of anything or it made

2244
02:13:25,860 --> 02:13:28,920
it sound like a bunch of white
guys who are Trump supporters.

2245
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:32,220
Yeah. beaten up and calling N N
word on this

2246
02:13:32,220 --> 02:13:35,370
poor. Yeah, that's exactly what
it sounds like. It was really

2247
02:13:35,910 --> 02:13:40,380
just the best example that you
could find of CBS, the CIA

2248
02:13:40,380 --> 02:13:44,700
broadcasting being extremely
biased and trying to just cover

2249
02:13:44,700 --> 02:13:47,970
up the story. It was there's no
explanation for this.

2250
02:13:48,630 --> 02:13:52,560
Now into the examples here is
The Josh Earnest White House,

2251
02:13:52,710 --> 02:13:55,410
just powered by just don't know
if we can call it a hate crime.

2252
02:13:55,410 --> 02:14:00,660
I mean, yeah, I'm big disability
white, but it's very hard or

2253
02:14:00,660 --> 02:14:02,190
hey, why is it not firing?
Obviously,

2254
02:14:02,190 --> 02:14:06,030
this is something that's gotten
a lot of attention and for good

2255
02:14:06,030 --> 02:14:09,330
reason, with this rise to the
level of a hate crime, in your

2256
02:14:09,330 --> 02:14:09,630
opinion.

2257
02:14:09,930 --> 02:14:14,760
I think it's too early to tell I
certainly too early to don't

2258
02:14:14,760 --> 02:14:18,780
want to predict where the where
the investigation would lead. I

2259
02:14:18,780 --> 02:14:22,200
think our expectation would be
that local law enforcement would

2260
02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:28,380
follow the facts. And I wouldn't
speculate at this point about to

2261
02:14:28,380 --> 02:14:32,430
what degree federal officials
would get involved for

2262
02:14:32,430 --> 02:14:36,390
considering those kinds of
crimes. And it's really a

2263
02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:39,510
decision by the Department of
Justice to investigate a matter

2264
02:14:39,510 --> 02:14:42,000
like this is something that is a
decision that they would have to

2265
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:42,510
make alone

2266
02:14:42,570 --> 02:14:47,460
and it's really mind boggling to
me that the whole conversation

2267
02:14:47,460 --> 02:14:51,570
is around. Is this a hate crime.
It's a freakin crime. You

2268
02:14:51,570 --> 02:14:56,460
committed a crime of kidnapping
asking for ransom threatening

2269
02:14:56,610 --> 02:15:01,710
you Who gives a shit sorry,
timecode who care's this whole

2270
02:15:01,710 --> 02:15:05,010
notion of hate crime now it's
about hate crime hate crime.

2271
02:15:05,220 --> 02:15:08,670
There's this is only being
positioned now to talk about

2272
02:15:08,670 --> 02:15:13,860
hate crime versus just crime.
Now Don Lemon, as you know, he

2273
02:15:13,860 --> 02:15:18,660
is the legend of the overnight
television news business. He had

2274
02:15:18,660 --> 02:15:21,300
a whole conversation with a
whole bunch of people and why

2275
02:15:21,300 --> 02:15:25,320
don't we ask the constitutional
lawyer JEFFREY TOOBIN. If this

2276
02:15:25,320 --> 02:15:26,730
is a hate crime, police say

2277
02:15:26,730 --> 02:15:28,650
they still they're still
investigating. They won't

2278
02:15:28,650 --> 02:15:30,870
classify it as a hate crime. Is
this a hate crime?

2279
02:15:32,190 --> 02:15:36,060
Well, I don't know. And I don't
want to judge the too much.

2280
02:15:36,060 --> 02:15:38,040
Because you know, frankly, even
the video has so

2281
02:15:38,100 --> 02:15:42,330
it's so easy. I've just read the
definition. How hard can it be

2282
02:15:42,330 --> 02:15:44,730
to say, yeah, it's a hate crime,
because you're a bunch of

2283
02:15:44,730 --> 02:15:49,620
pussies is what you are the
bleeps that you would need to

2284
02:15:49,620 --> 02:15:52,200
hear that what he says, oh,
there was too many bleeps. I

2285
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:54,360
couldn't figure out what the
bleeps were. So I don't know if

2286
02:15:54,360 --> 02:15:57,690
it was a hate crime. Did you see
the color of everybody involved?

2287
02:15:57,690 --> 02:15:57,990
Here's

2288
02:15:57,990 --> 02:16:03,630
some of the offenders Jeff.
Shouting F Trump F white people.

2289
02:16:03,870 --> 02:16:06,360
Do you think that this was
politically motivated, a

2290
02:16:06,360 --> 02:16:07,830
politically motivated crime?

2291
02:16:07,860 --> 02:16:11,670
Are these just stupid kids? This
is my favorite. This is the

2292
02:16:11,670 --> 02:16:16,620
narrative they will just stupid
kids. So the options are, was

2293
02:16:16,620 --> 02:16:21,300
this politically motivated or
just stupid kids? The option

2294
02:16:21,510 --> 02:16:27,030
glaringly missing option is was
it racially motivated Don Lemon?

2295
02:16:27,540 --> 02:16:29,160
I get really mad at this guy

2296
02:16:29,190 --> 02:16:32,700
made it a politically motivated
crime. Are these just stupid

2297
02:16:32,700 --> 02:16:33,000
kids?

2298
02:16:33,029 --> 02:16:35,099
I mean, that's all your options,
just stupid kids.

2299
02:16:36,090 --> 02:16:38,850
You know, I'm gonna say the
three words you're never allowed

2300
02:16:38,850 --> 02:16:44,580
to say on cable news, which are
I don't know. Now G. Cop Out.

2301
02:16:44,880 --> 02:16:49,680
P you. You know this is the
liberals, at least a contingent

2302
02:16:49,680 --> 02:16:54,510
that's running things. The
narrative is that black skin

2303
02:16:54,540 --> 02:16:57,840
cannot be racist. That's
correct, and therefore could

2304
02:16:57,840 --> 02:17:00,120
never take part in a hate crime
because you have to be a racist

2305
02:17:00,120 --> 02:17:00,900
to do that. Well,

2306
02:17:00,929 --> 02:17:05,069
let us then listen in on a
conversation between Don Lemon

2307
02:17:05,429 --> 02:17:09,059
and Robin Sanders, Robin
Sanders, black woman, it's

2308
02:17:10,169 --> 02:17:14,279
notable in this particular clip,
who used to be Bernie Sanders,

2309
02:17:15,149 --> 02:17:21,149
PR manager, your you know her
big mouth. Why don't we ask her

2310
02:17:21,149 --> 02:17:24,629
so now we have two black people
who have an opportunity to do

2311
02:17:24,629 --> 02:17:25,979
something good here.

2312
02:17:26,010 --> 02:17:28,350
I can't say that it's a hate
crime because Chicago police

2313
02:17:28,350 --> 02:17:30,660
won't say it. They're saying
they're still investigating it.

2314
02:17:30,690 --> 02:17:32,670
They're not investigate. They
they're not done with their

2315
02:17:32,670 --> 02:17:36,330
investigation. But when you look
at this, Simone, they're saying,

2316
02:17:37,050 --> 02:17:41,130
Simone, well, F Trump. How can
you say it's not a hate crime

2317
02:17:41,130 --> 02:17:42,480
against the white Simone
Sanders.

2318
02:17:42,510 --> 02:17:47,640
So first, I want to say this is
absolutely sickening. It's, It's

2319
02:17:47,640 --> 02:17:51,480
unfathomable that so much hate
and anger can fill up a person

2320
02:17:51,480 --> 02:17:53,850
where they go out. And they
think that this is okay. And

2321
02:17:53,850 --> 02:17:55,800
then it was stupid to do it on
Facebook Live, but that's a

2322
02:17:55,800 --> 02:17:56,610
whole nother story. Actually,

2323
02:17:56,610 --> 02:17:59,430
there's the meme again. Stupid
kids. Just stupid kids. Just

2324
02:17:59,430 --> 02:18:01,320
stupid kids. You watch a stupid
case.

2325
02:18:01,320 --> 02:18:03,390
So this is absolutely sickening.
But I'm gonna say something

2326
02:18:03,390 --> 02:18:07,170
that's probably not very
popular. We cannot callously go

2327
02:18:07,170 --> 02:18:10,710
about classifying things as a
hate crime motive here matters.

2328
02:18:10,710 --> 02:18:15,660
So was this for hate of Donald
Trump, the President Elect

2329
02:18:15,660 --> 02:18:17,880
because of the things he has
said, or was this for pure hate

2330
02:18:18,060 --> 02:18:20,700
of white people that matters?
Because if we start going

2331
02:18:20,700 --> 02:18:25,020
around, and anytime someone says
something, or does something

2332
02:18:25,020 --> 02:18:27,930
really egregious, really bad and
sickening in this instance, in

2333
02:18:27,930 --> 02:18:31,140
connection with the president
elect, or Donald Trump or even

2334
02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:34,440
President Obama, for that
matter, because of their

2335
02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:38,460
political leanings, that is
slippery territory. That is not

2336
02:18:38,460 --> 02:18:40,620
a hate crime, hate crimes are
because of a person.

2337
02:18:40,740 --> 02:18:44,070
Do you hear this? She's talking
the hate crime out of it,

2338
02:18:44,070 --> 02:18:48,630
because, well, you can't
classify people saying bad

2339
02:18:48,630 --> 02:18:51,450
things about Donald Trump as a
hate crime. Maybe when you're

2340
02:18:51,450 --> 02:18:54,870
pushing someone's head in the
toilet and saying it may be

2341
02:18:54,870 --> 02:18:57,840
that's a hate crime, just to
maybe you have to flush it

2342
02:18:57,840 --> 02:18:58,710
before. It's a hate crime,

2343
02:18:58,710 --> 02:19:02,490
racial ethnicity, their
religion, their gender, and we

2344
02:19:02,490 --> 02:19:07,290
cannot sit here and ignore that
for at least for the last year

2345
02:19:07,350 --> 02:19:12,360
on very public display. The
worst parts of America have been

2346
02:19:12,360 --> 02:19:15,240
brought from the fringe into the
mainstream. So that affects

2347
02:19:15,240 --> 02:19:18,510
people on both sides. We've
talked about white nationalists

2348
02:19:18,510 --> 02:19:22,890
and white supremacists and the
kk k, but they're also this when

2349
02:19:22,890 --> 02:19:26,400
this inflammatory rhetoric is
out there, when someone is

2350
02:19:26,400 --> 02:19:29,490
repeatedly telling you that your
community is the worst of the

2351
02:19:29,490 --> 02:19:33,120
worst. It brings out the worst
of the worst in people and so

2352
02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:35,970
I'm not defending what they did.
What these young people did was

2353
02:19:35,970 --> 02:19:39,480
sickening. I would I would argue
that they also need some help

2354
02:19:39,480 --> 02:19:45,090
and in addition to, you know,
some consequences, but this just

2355
02:19:45,090 --> 02:19:46,230
didn't come out of thin air.

2356
02:19:46,440 --> 02:19:53,520
It's not a hate crime. It's all
Donald Trump's own fault. Boy,

2357
02:19:53,940 --> 02:19:54,570
Trump's fault

2358
02:19:54,570 --> 02:19:58,470
and I got nothing after I hear
that just wow, you know, I know

2359
02:19:58,500 --> 02:20:01,560
you got another you know, Yeah,
if you haven't seen it yet, I

2360
02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:06,150
know you love the comedies. Dana
Carvey has a new comedy special

2361
02:20:06,150 --> 02:20:14,280
out. And it's titled, single
white man, male, comma 60. And I

2362
02:20:14,280 --> 02:20:17,670
have to say, if he's brilliant,
every single, you know,

2363
02:20:17,820 --> 02:20:21,600
everything you can't say as a
white male, he makes jokes about

2364
02:20:21,600 --> 02:20:25,500
throughout this entire thing.
It's fabulous. My new hero of

2365
02:20:25,500 --> 02:20:25,590
the

2366
02:20:25,589 --> 02:20:28,319
single white onions are
rebelling against a lot of

2367
02:20:28,319 --> 02:20:31,199
comedians are rebelling against
what's going on. They have

2368
02:20:31,199 --> 02:20:35,459
because it is it's ruining their
audience. They can't do gigs at

2369
02:20:35,489 --> 02:20:36,059
all

2370
02:20:36,060 --> 02:20:40,500
that's left for the comedians as
podcasts. And you're all doing

2371
02:20:40,590 --> 02:20:43,530
now because they can't go to
college campuses anymore. They

2372
02:20:43,530 --> 02:20:46,470
can't go to comedy clubs.
Everyone's getting blood

2373
02:20:46,470 --> 02:20:47,100
slammed.

2374
02:20:47,850 --> 02:20:51,240
Yeah, I haven't seen the new
Carvey thing, but I would, I

2375
02:20:51,240 --> 02:20:55,350
would assume that of all the
people getting screwed by

2376
02:20:55,350 --> 02:20:58,230
situation he one of them and I
can see him doing a very good

2377
02:20:58,230 --> 02:20:58,770
bit on it.

2378
02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:01,200
He also does a brilliant bit.
Check it out. He also does a

2379
02:21:01,200 --> 02:21:04,830
brilliant it looks right. Yes.
He does a brilliant bit, where

2380
02:21:04,830 --> 02:21:07,710
he's Paul McCartney. And he's
talking to John Lennon, who's in

2381
02:21:07,710 --> 02:21:12,840
heaven. And he's explaining the
explaining iPhones and the

2382
02:21:12,840 --> 02:21:16,470
internet. And Kim Kardashian.

2383
02:21:17,820 --> 02:21:21,810
It's fantastic. It's really It's
very good. It's very, very good.

2384
02:21:23,970 --> 02:21:28,350
Okay, what else do we have?
Well, do you want to would you

2385
02:21:28,350 --> 02:21:29,730
like to take a break or?

2386
02:21:30,300 --> 02:21:34,380
Well, let me just say there's a
entre Oh, yeah, I got one. I got

2387
02:21:34,380 --> 02:21:37,920
launcher ma before the break.
All right. Flew,

2388
02:21:38,400 --> 02:21:42,060
flew. We just got the flu is the
flu Oh,

2389
02:21:42,060 --> 02:21:45,630
warning about the flu. The CDC
says this season is worse than

2390
02:21:45,630 --> 02:21:49,770
last more than 10,000 reported
cases nationwide, is hitting

2391
02:21:49,770 --> 02:21:53,490
especially hard on the coasts
and reaching epidemic levels in

2392
02:21:53,490 --> 02:21:56,820
Washington state where at least
10 people have died. While

2393
02:21:56,820 --> 02:21:59,790
doctors do say the flu shot is a
good match for this year's

2394
02:21:59,790 --> 02:22:02,640
dominant strain. And it's not
too late to get

2395
02:22:02,670 --> 02:22:05,610
Wow, there's the promotion.
There it is.

2396
02:22:05,640 --> 02:22:06,630
Gotta get that. You know,

2397
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:11,250
I was disappointed because I had
this clip from Thursday show

2398
02:22:11,460 --> 02:22:16,770
from the local Washington state
broadcaster and they did they

2399
02:22:16,770 --> 02:22:17,580
messed it up

2400
02:22:17,610 --> 02:22:20,250
here. According to Dr. Jeff du
Chien at Seattle King County

2401
02:22:20,250 --> 02:22:23,460
Public Health, the number of
people seen a hospital emergency

2402
02:22:23,460 --> 02:22:26,820
rooms with flu like symptoms is
more than they've seen at this

2403
02:22:26,820 --> 02:22:30,360
time of year than in the
previous five years. This graph

2404
02:22:30,360 --> 02:22:33,660
helps illustrate the situation
in our state right now. In the

2405
02:22:33,660 --> 02:22:38,250
51st week. Last year, the
percentage of ER visits jumped

2406
02:22:38,340 --> 02:22:45,510
to 2.2%, spiking earlier and
almost at the same rate as the

2407
02:22:45,510 --> 02:22:50,820
peak high of last year, late
February 2.9%. So what we're

2408
02:22:50,820 --> 02:22:56,610
seeing right now, spiking
earlier, and almost as high as

2409
02:22:56,610 --> 02:23:00,930
last year since the season began
in September, statewide, there

2410
02:23:00,930 --> 02:23:06,120
have been nine deaths and this
is very concerning to officials.

2411
02:23:06,480 --> 02:23:09,750
The state is now declaring the
flu widespread in Washington.

2412
02:23:09,960 --> 02:23:12,840
And while all age groups appear
to be affected, the incidence

2413
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:16,590
was highest among children and
young people under 24. And

2414
02:23:16,590 --> 02:23:20,220
here's the bad news. Oh, Dr. du
Chien says as far as the flu, we

2415
02:23:20,220 --> 02:23:21,930
haven't peaked yet,

2416
02:23:22,259 --> 02:23:24,179
but she forgot the payoff. I was

2417
02:23:24,180 --> 02:23:26,940
very disappointed. Yeah, that's
just crypto screw told very

2418
02:23:26,940 --> 02:23:27,630
disappointing.

2419
02:23:27,630 --> 02:23:31,440
I didn't understand what she
was. She messed that up. was

2420
02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:33,060
weird. All right.

2421
02:23:34,530 --> 02:23:37,590
Well, more little ones, but we
can do I'd like to do a clip

2422
02:23:37,590 --> 02:23:41,550
blitz with maybe Oh, four clips
at the end of the show. Oh, you

2423
02:23:41,550 --> 02:23:44,790
wonder the end. Okay. All right.
Yeah, we can take a break right

2424
02:23:44,790 --> 02:23:45,690
now. We shall do that.

2425
02:23:46,350 --> 02:23:49,800
I'm going to show my school by
donate to no agenda. Imagine all

2426
02:23:49,800 --> 02:23:53,100
the people who could do that.
That'd be fun. That will be fun.

2427
02:24:00,330 --> 02:24:03,390
We do have a few people to
thank. And a few notes to read

2428
02:24:03,390 --> 02:24:07,800
that are pretty entertaining.
Oh, nice. Patrick go hopple in

2429
02:24:07,800 --> 02:24:13,950
Deerfield, Wisconsin, came in
with 12345. I think he sent a

2430
02:24:13,950 --> 02:24:17,310
note in everybody. His next
three guests and notes and

2431
02:24:17,490 --> 02:24:20,790
there's actually one or two of
them here that are I think

2432
02:24:20,790 --> 02:24:23,790
definitely worth reading because
they're the besides being

2433
02:24:23,790 --> 02:24:24,600
complimentary.

2434
02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:28,290
And I will say that for people
who know how it works and have

2435
02:24:28,410 --> 02:24:31,470
listened to the show for a bit.
If you wanted to have your note

2436
02:24:31,470 --> 02:24:35,460
read with a lower amount, which
we don't have to do. I mean,

2437
02:24:35,460 --> 02:24:38,730
those are the rules. You know
that when you have like lower

2438
02:24:38,730 --> 02:24:41,280
donation days, that's when you
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handwritten note with a check.
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did send a note in and it was
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care about is at the end of the
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Thank you very much Sam house in
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Yes, sir. Mark Tanner came in
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100. And so that was normal 50
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that's like our Christmas bonus.
Christopher share it 9999 He's

2452
02:25:38,310 --> 02:25:42,000
been listening for a long time.
He needs a deducing and jobs

2453
02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:45,720
karma. We'll put that at the end
for you. Yeah. William Matt

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note and that was the problem is
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wear reading glasses nowadays. I
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2457
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glasses on. He wants another
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2458
02:26:04,590 --> 02:26:08,160
the end. He This is an
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have some karma in helping me to
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this year or keep on working.
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right.

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So the karma will will show you
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synonymous at 808 which is not
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up. My mistake. That's okay.

2467
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No, we're doing this on the fly.
We ad libbed this show. It's a

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give me keeps me sane from all
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Now this was what's coming up
here. This this row. This was

2485
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from the newsletter,

2486
02:28:16,710 --> 02:28:24,690
Preston Thaler. 7117 Yes, this
was a palindrome from yesterday

2487
02:28:24,690 --> 02:28:27,630
when the newsletter went out.
Right. I got it but What

2488
02:28:27,990 --> 02:28:33,390
didn't we also have the train
stuff and all the he had

2489
02:28:33,390 --> 02:28:38,070
something in the newsletter was
it wasn't 7117 on trains.

2490
02:28:39,030 --> 02:28:42,090
Trains. Oh, yeah, no, it was
there was a number of trains

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including trans rail Yeah, that
were good. 7117 was that was the

2492
02:28:47,970 --> 02:28:50,130
name of the was the number on
the train. Yeah, but

2493
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there's a whole bunch of 7117
Yeah.

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There's a Japanese band girl
band 711 called 7117 There's a

2495
02:29:00,240 --> 02:29:03,240
bunch of there's stuff I left
off there was some was

2496
02:29:03,870 --> 02:29:08,820
no idea. I mean, we need to
figure out the 7117 mean, I know

2497
02:29:08,820 --> 02:29:12,810
must mean something. Anyway,
precedent. They are 7117 David

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02:29:12,810 --> 02:29:16,290
Oliver, in California,
California. These are all 7117

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donation Nick in Walnut Creek.
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unknown Roger St. in Tampa,
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Murphysboro, Tennessee, which
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agenda listeners. Robert Cohan
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grouping of 123456 only seven.
Curiously seven. Brandon Brandon

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Turner say no more in King's
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these has a he's in for 5555 So
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got a pen because he needs a
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tell Eric Sure. I was hoping to
get a birthday call it to my

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daughter Harper. She is going to
be six on January 7, six mind

2509
02:30:04,920 --> 02:30:10,050
you. She listens to the show
with me and likes to sing along

2510
02:30:10,050 --> 02:30:18,360
to the jingle especially I'VE
GOT ANTS Yeah, I'm slowly

2511
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working my way to knighthood
originally had a couple of funny

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occurrences I wanted to share
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and got a listing at 1233 3/3
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them had a manual key lockbox,
which are usually four to five

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numbers. This one had four
letters, which was odd. I called

2516
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the listing agent and I shit you
not good. The code was ants.

2517
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No, we'll just do a little bit
for his daughter for Harper

2518
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:52,020
because she likes it just the
beginning. It does kick in great

2519
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doesn't it

2520
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again ants, Baba. And ants.

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I said I gotta dance. I love
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song. And he's ki seven hd t so
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right. seven threes kilo five
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her out as a douchebag as she
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tough man. All right.

2535
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2536
02:32:06,689 --> 02:32:11,939
donate or something or punch him
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Pennsylvania. And last but not
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Raleigh, North Carolina. Want to
thank all these folks who are

2545
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helping us out and help produce
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And here we go. Jason. Jason
says Happy Birthday whose

2558
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daughter Lily she's turning 13
Martin Feldman says Happy

2559
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2560
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lens she turned 25 on January 6.
Brandon Turner says Happy

2561
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Birthday to his daughter Harper.
She turned six yesterday.

2562
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Christopher Sure. 33 tomorrow
and Noah Reeves will be

2563
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celebrating on the 19th Happy
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2564
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the best podcast in the
universe. And we have no title

2565
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changes no nights no nothing.
But I do have a report. A report

2566
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okay. Yes, this is a very
important report. It is porn

2567
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hubs 2016 Year in Review. And I
find it always very interesting

2568
02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:23,820
to see what types and what
categories of porn different

2569
02:34:23,820 --> 02:34:29,730
countries are viewing. I think
it tells you something about the

2570
02:34:29,730 --> 02:34:30,090
country.

2571
02:34:30,300 --> 02:34:33,570
Like it reminds me of leg mins
rationale, the dirty joke a very

2572
02:34:33,570 --> 02:34:40,770
famous folklore resource that
were leg men whose thesis is

2573
02:34:40,770 --> 02:34:44,040
that you can tell a person's
what their person that you did a

2574
02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:47,070
little bit about their
personality but by what kind of

2575
02:34:47,070 --> 02:34:50,970
jokes. Dirty jokes in
particular, what kind of jokes

2576
02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:54,360
do they tell? Yeah, you can
learn a little

2577
02:34:54,420 --> 02:34:58,800
I would agree. I would agree.
Yes. And we learn a lot of very

2578
02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:02,820
interesting things from this
search behavior from different

2579
02:35:02,820 --> 02:35:06,150
countries now first of all, when
it comes to just traffic in

2580
02:35:06,150 --> 02:35:09,600
general United States top of the
bill, we win. We're number one

2581
02:35:09,600 --> 02:35:15,060
big foam finger. We watched the
most porn followed by you just

2582
02:35:15,060 --> 02:35:15,690
want to guess.

2583
02:35:17,160 --> 02:35:21,870
Let me think. Now it's just done
per capita or total population.

2584
02:35:22,920 --> 02:35:24,360
I guess the Germans?

2585
02:35:24,930 --> 02:35:28,530
No, no, no, United Kingdom is
number two. Oh, I

2586
02:35:28,530 --> 02:35:30,870
was gonna guess them. That was
my second choice.

2587
02:35:30,900 --> 02:35:37,710
Number three on the list is
Canada. Number four, is India.

2588
02:35:39,090 --> 02:35:43,200
Number five, yeah, Japan, then
we get France, Germany,

2589
02:35:43,200 --> 02:35:46,950
Australia, Italy, Brazil,
Mexico, Russia, Spain,

2590
02:35:46,950 --> 02:35:50,970
Philippines, ha Netherlands, way
down the bottom there. Poland,

2591
02:35:50,970 --> 02:35:55,260
Sweden, Argentina, Belgium. And
bottom of the list is South

2592
02:35:55,260 --> 02:35:59,190
Africa. Now let's look at the
most searched for terms. And

2593
02:35:59,190 --> 02:36:01,440
these are pretty consistent
across the board with some

2594
02:36:01,830 --> 02:36:06,660
obvious differences per country.
And some and there's a new entry

2595
02:36:06,660 --> 02:36:10,980
that I'd like to discuss. Number
one, and this, you know, it

2596
02:36:10,980 --> 02:36:14,490
surprises me that I actually had
a conversation not too long ago

2597
02:36:15,120 --> 02:36:19,170
with the keeper about this. And
I'm surprised that this is the

2598
02:36:19,170 --> 02:36:23,550
number one. Well, maybe I'm not
surprised when I think about how

2599
02:36:23,940 --> 02:36:28,680
men are being de masculinized
What do you think the number one

2600
02:36:28,680 --> 02:36:30,180
porn search term is? John?

2601
02:36:31,530 --> 02:36:34,410
I would just type in porn. No,

2602
02:36:34,440 --> 02:36:36,360
no, there's I mean, this
categories, you know,

2603
02:36:36,690 --> 02:36:39,240
I don't know. I have no idea
wouldn't have a clue Tim's?

2604
02:36:39,360 --> 02:36:44,820
Nope. Lesbian. Number one,
number one search porn term

2605
02:36:44,850 --> 02:36:49,500
lead. I would have never guessed
that. No. Number two. Stepmom.

2606
02:36:51,150 --> 02:36:54,420
What, step mom that's even more
surprised.

2607
02:36:54,900 --> 02:37:02,490
Number three milk. Then we get
teen step sister, mom, cartoon.

2608
02:37:03,000 --> 02:37:09,840
Hen Thai massage. Japanese and
the new entry. Overwatch.

2609
02:37:11,640 --> 02:37:13,200
Overwatch? Yeah,

2610
02:37:13,230 --> 02:37:15,480
yeah, that's what I said
Overwatch.

2611
02:37:15,720 --> 02:37:16,890
I don't even know what it means.

2612
02:37:17,699 --> 02:37:22,259
Okay, this is this shows you how
the culture is collapsing.

2613
02:37:22,949 --> 02:37:28,019
Overwatch is a video game. And
it's really a platform. At this

2614
02:37:28,019 --> 02:37:33,809
point. I think it was who it
was. The old game guys. Who were

2615
02:37:33,809 --> 02:37:36,599
the game guys. You remember?
I'll tell you what Overwatch

2616
02:37:36,599 --> 02:37:37,019
was.

2617
02:37:37,710 --> 02:37:39,570
Goodson and Todd meant no, it

2618
02:37:39,570 --> 02:37:44,850
was. Blizzard Blizzard
Entertainment. Yeah. And they

2619
02:37:44,850 --> 02:37:49,080
have a toolkit so you can
manipulate your characters. And

2620
02:37:49,080 --> 02:37:54,210
there's a huge category in porn
now is computer generated

2621
02:37:54,210 --> 02:37:58,530
rendered porno. So you have
these you know, and a lot of

2622
02:37:58,530 --> 02:38:01,740
these video game characters are
already you know, highly

2623
02:38:01,740 --> 02:38:07,020
sexualized. So now they just
have you know, genitals and you

2624
02:38:07,020 --> 02:38:13,140
know, and very, it's all
animated, but it's real

2625
02:38:13,350 --> 02:38:17,040
pornographic depictions. But
that is a and this is high in

2626
02:38:17,040 --> 02:38:19,530
several countries. So we're
gonna get to that. After that

2627
02:38:19,590 --> 02:38:22,530
After Overwatch and old
favorites on the way down the

2628
02:38:22,530 --> 02:38:26,220
list Angel was just on its way
out. Ebony threesome almost at

2629
02:38:26,220 --> 02:38:29,310
the bottom of the list lesbian
scissoring I mean, Jace, you

2630
02:38:29,310 --> 02:38:32,490
have lesbians at the top but
scissors is going away cream pie

2631
02:38:32,490 --> 02:38:35,820
Asian black squirt and gangbang
at the bottom of the list now.

2632
02:38:36,810 --> 02:38:41,190
Let's look at By country United
States and you heard some of

2633
02:38:41,190 --> 02:38:44,850
these you heard some of the
search terms. What do you think

2634
02:38:44,850 --> 02:38:49,050
the top three are for the United
States? Remember we are being

2635
02:38:49,080 --> 02:38:52,380
number one was lesbian now it's
actually stepmom number one

2636
02:38:52,380 --> 02:38:54,930
lesbian number two step sister
number three.

2637
02:38:55,080 --> 02:38:59,040
Okay. Yep. And makes sense based
on your thesis? Yes,

2638
02:38:59,070 --> 02:39:03,660
Overwatch comes in at the
bottom. Now we'll go to actually

2639
02:39:03,660 --> 02:39:07,830
this is a quick intermezzo time
spent per visit shows you

2640
02:39:07,980 --> 02:39:11,580
something very funny. Of course
we know there's a lot of fraud

2641
02:39:11,580 --> 02:39:14,250
going on in the internet. So
what is the number one country

2642
02:39:14,250 --> 02:39:17,100
that spends the most time
watching porn?

2643
02:39:19,110 --> 02:39:24,390
Not us. No, we're number two
we're number three. I have no

2644
02:39:24,390 --> 02:39:25,650
idea the Philippines

2645
02:39:25,710 --> 02:39:27,390
of course that's where all the
click farms are.

2646
02:39:29,010 --> 02:39:32,700
Oh, oh, so they're not really
watching porn now. They're just

2647
02:39:32,700 --> 02:39:35,520
clicking around and watching the
hit. They're doing what they do

2648
02:39:35,520 --> 02:39:38,100
right to Philippines and India
both which may account for some

2649
02:39:38,100 --> 02:39:42,930
of India's numbers are both
click farms so you hire them.

2650
02:39:42,960 --> 02:39:47,070
This is a very common scam which
is why we ask our producers to

2651
02:39:47,100 --> 02:39:50,640
help pay for our show because
everybody else is scamming the

2652
02:39:50,640 --> 02:39:53,880
advertisers. And that's how you
do it. You hired there's certain

2653
02:39:53,880 --> 02:39:58,410
firms you can hire. Yep. And
they will put together a click

2654
02:39:58,410 --> 02:40:02,700
farm and usually in The
Philippines and India and they

2655
02:40:02,700 --> 02:40:05,340
just go on your site and start
pounding your site with all

2656
02:40:05,340 --> 02:40:08,520
kinds of clicks and the
advertisers go oh, look at all

2657
02:40:08,520 --> 02:40:09,300
that click around

2658
02:40:10,050 --> 02:40:13,320
and number two and I would wager
they have some farms as well as

2659
02:40:13,320 --> 02:40:17,280
South Africa. So either they're
really horny or they gotta click

2660
02:40:17,280 --> 02:40:17,580
farms

2661
02:40:18,030 --> 02:40:20,250
but they're so low on the
overall list why would they be

2662
02:40:20,250 --> 02:40:23,130
so high on that watching now
it's not you're right. It's got

2663
02:40:23,130 --> 02:40:26,490
to be clicked probably a new a
new area for click farms.

2664
02:40:27,840 --> 02:40:30,630
Nice little category here time
spent per visit for the United

2665
02:40:30,630 --> 02:40:34,440
States. So states that spent the
time the longest and then the

2666
02:40:34,440 --> 02:40:37,620
shortest, which I guess you
could extrapolate to say guys

2667
02:40:37,620 --> 02:40:40,980
who take a really long time and
who take a very short time.

2668
02:40:41,880 --> 02:40:46,140
Mississippi watches porn the
longest Alabama, Arkansas,

2669
02:40:46,140 --> 02:40:50,850
Louisiana, South Carolina. The
shortest time Oregon Utah Kansas

2670
02:40:50,850 --> 02:40:57,930
Colorado. Yeah, okay, now we go
into I know isn't that funny?

2671
02:40:58,200 --> 02:41:03,570
United Kingdom. Let's look at
their their top searches. top

2672
02:41:03,570 --> 02:41:08,520
searches lesbian MILF stepsister
British steps stepmom. Ooh,

2673
02:41:08,910 --> 02:41:13,380
lesbian seduces straight girl
who is a good one. And they do

2674
02:41:13,380 --> 02:41:19,380
not have Overwatch on that list.
We go to Canada, Canada also

2675
02:41:19,590 --> 02:41:23,130
becoming very feminine lesbian
stepsister MILF, stepmom all in

2676
02:41:23,130 --> 02:41:27,720
the top but top gaming searches
and this is across the board

2677
02:41:27,900 --> 02:41:33,690
virtual reality and oh my
favorite Oh Canada. Oh Canada.

2678
02:41:33,900 --> 02:41:37,890
Number three on their top gaming
searches surprise come in mouth.

2679
02:41:37,920 --> 02:41:43,380
Wow. Gee, Canada, you're a bunch
of nice guys. A baby don't worry

2680
02:41:43,380 --> 02:41:49,410
about hey, that's a word to the
wise if you're going out with

2681
02:41:50,760 --> 02:41:53,580
now, here's what I found
interesting. You get to other

2682
02:41:53,580 --> 02:41:57,480
countries like India. And their
top searches are Indian Indian

2683
02:41:57,480 --> 02:42:01,230
wife Indian College, Indian
actress Indian teacher, Indian

2684
02:42:01,230 --> 02:42:06,960
Auntie Indian Auntie with young
team. So they're all about their

2685
02:42:06,960 --> 02:42:09,900
own. They don't want to see any
Americans they want to see

2686
02:42:10,200 --> 02:42:15,180
Indians Japan same thing. top
searches Japanese Japanese teen

2687
02:42:15,180 --> 02:42:19,050
Japanese amateur Japanese wife
Japan Japanese massage Japanese

2688
02:42:19,050 --> 02:42:19,440
school.

2689
02:42:19,860 --> 02:42:22,950
Interesting racial overtones you
would think

2690
02:42:24,600 --> 02:42:28,950
top gaming searches in Japan
Japan sex game show. Magic

2691
02:42:28,950 --> 02:42:35,760
Mirror car. And Japanese amateur
ass This is top search. And

2692
02:42:35,760 --> 02:42:39,390
again for France. We see French
friend says my mom concept

2693
02:42:40,590 --> 02:42:46,260
massager. And those are the top
ones VR again, really climbing

2694
02:42:46,260 --> 02:42:49,740
the charts everywhere. Germany
of course. German teen Deutsch

2695
02:42:49,740 --> 02:42:53,160
German Mom Mom stepmom
stepsister German dirty talk

2696
02:42:53,160 --> 02:42:57,990
massage. Wow, this is all about
women in in Germany with gaming

2697
02:42:57,990 --> 02:43:02,400
searches virtual reality again.
Skyrim I did not look that one

2698
02:43:02,400 --> 02:43:07,680
up. real celebrity sex tape ball
busting and October fest? Yes.

2699
02:43:08,790 --> 02:43:13,800
Now Australia, we're going to
Australia. Oddly, Australian

2700
02:43:13,800 --> 02:43:16,680
itself bottom of the list, but
lesbian MILF Asian massage

2701
02:43:16,680 --> 02:43:19,830
cartoon stepmom boom Overwatch
comes in on the list there.

2702
02:43:20,490 --> 02:43:24,060
Harley Quinn. I don't know
Harley, she's some porn. Italy

2703
02:43:24,060 --> 02:43:29,760
also Italian. Oh, number three
in Italy foot job. Foot job for

2704
02:43:29,760 --> 02:43:37,140
the Italians. See, they don't
have any Overwatch Brazil. Top

2705
02:43:37,140 --> 02:43:37,650
of the list. I

2706
02:43:37,650 --> 02:43:40,500
mean that Overwatch isn't on
anybody's list. Wow. No,

2707
02:43:40,500 --> 02:43:43,560
no, it is. It is but they're not
in the top. No, it's on

2708
02:43:43,560 --> 02:43:47,130
everyone's list but not in the
top. But in Brazil. It is number

2709
02:43:47,130 --> 02:43:47,610
one.

2710
02:43:49,410 --> 02:43:53,130
Well, the Brazilians have a very
strong social media structure to

2711
02:43:53,130 --> 02:44:00,450
their society. And they like to
just a social it their social,

2712
02:44:00,540 --> 02:44:02,640
and so Overwatch must be a
social game.

2713
02:44:04,140 --> 02:44:09,390
Russia also number one,
Overwatch. Spain number three

2714
02:44:09,390 --> 02:44:18,870
Overwatch. The Philippines? Not
at all. The Netherlands. Let me

2715
02:44:18,870 --> 02:44:22,200
see No, no Overwatch six the
Netherlands.

2716
02:44:22,620 --> 02:44:25,500
Okay, well, I don't know what
those Overwatch thing is. So I'm

2717
02:44:25,500 --> 02:44:26,520
gonna have to look into it.

2718
02:44:26,640 --> 02:44:32,130
Yeah, it well. Here Argentina.
Number two. What is just I told

2719
02:44:32,130 --> 02:44:32,730
you what it is.

2720
02:44:32,760 --> 02:44:37,560
It's it's a sex game of like
real life? No, no,

2721
02:44:37,560 --> 02:44:42,690
it's a video game. But just like
Grand Theft Auto you can modify

2722
02:44:42,690 --> 02:44:45,690
it. So they're modifying the
characters and they're creating

2723
02:44:45,690 --> 02:44:49,080
sex scenes will they then video
to do that they capture and then

2724
02:44:49,080 --> 02:44:52,740
publish that as a sex video. And
they put storylines in it and

2725
02:44:52,740 --> 02:44:56,310
all kinds of stuff. It's it's
interesting, but the sad thing

2726
02:44:56,310 --> 02:44:58,560
is, it's not real sex.

2727
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,120
No, doesn't sound like real sex
to me. There's

2728
02:45:03,120 --> 02:45:06,570
something there that needs to be
looked at by someone who knows

2729
02:45:06,570 --> 02:45:08,070
much more about this than we do.

2730
02:45:08,910 --> 02:45:11,760
Well, what I when I run into
this sort of thing, I always say

2731
02:45:11,760 --> 02:45:15,030
the same thing and I say it in
my writings. I say it everywhere

2732
02:45:15,030 --> 02:45:18,900
I can. No one pays attention,
but I say it anyway. The

2733
02:45:18,900 --> 02:45:22,560
sociologists that work at a
major university should look

2734
02:45:22,590 --> 02:45:23,610
into this.

2735
02:45:23,670 --> 02:45:27,660
They should. But here's the
thing that threw me off though.

2736
02:45:29,100 --> 02:45:33,120
And I'll end with that. They
also split it up by search terms

2737
02:45:33,120 --> 02:45:39,060
by gender. And this is this
really threw me off. So men's

2738
02:45:39,060 --> 02:45:43,080
favorites. Milk stepmom,
stepsister, Japanese mom, teen

2739
02:45:43,080 --> 02:45:46,950
lesbian, stepmom, Mom and son
celebrity sex tape hentai ebony

2740
02:45:46,950 --> 02:45:51,900
massage cartoon, anal and Asian
Women's favorites. Lesbian

2741
02:45:51,900 --> 02:45:55,050
lesbian scissoring threesome big
black dick lesbian seduces

2742
02:45:55,050 --> 02:45:58,740
straight woman, stepdad and her
daughter black extreme. gangbang

2743
02:45:58,740 --> 02:46:01,890
Japanese gang bang massage
lesbian threesome cartoon

2744
02:46:01,890 --> 02:46:07,260
squirting orgasm anal. I mean,
wow, women. So they're

2745
02:46:07,260 --> 02:46:09,180
apparently pushing the lesbian
stuff up.

2746
02:46:10,290 --> 02:46:13,260
lesbianism is in a is hot.

2747
02:46:13,290 --> 02:46:18,990
I'm telling you. I mean as as in
trendy hot. Yeah. I don't know.

2748
02:46:19,020 --> 02:46:22,050
Right. I think someone should
indeed look at this. Well, they

2749
02:46:22,050 --> 02:46:23,940
should think there's something
going on.

2750
02:46:26,970 --> 02:46:29,970
There's been something going on
and we're just a reporters.

2751
02:46:30,000 --> 02:46:36,180
That's right. All right. Well,
thanks for that report.

2752
02:46:38,190 --> 02:46:39,600
Back to you in the studio, John.

2753
02:46:39,660 --> 02:46:42,660
As long as it was. Come on.

2754
02:46:43,890 --> 02:46:46,080
All right. You just don't like
those words.

2755
02:46:46,800 --> 02:46:51,360
No, I just thought the words the
length is the length and which

2756
02:46:51,360 --> 02:46:57,150
does have some something to do
with it. Okay, what Yeah, I got

2757
02:46:57,180 --> 02:46:59,790
I got a couple of funny things.
I got this goal. It should be

2758
02:46:59,790 --> 02:47:05,370
part of the clip Blitz. I have I
hear I can I get to play this

2759
02:47:05,370 --> 02:47:06,480
anyway, let's play this.

2760
02:47:06,780 --> 02:47:08,790
Do you not want to finish the
Greenwald stuff? Because I

2761
02:47:08,790 --> 02:47:10,500
thought there was more that we
could do there?

2762
02:47:10,530 --> 02:47:13,170
No, I think the Greenwell stuff
was fine the way he did it. And

2763
02:47:13,170 --> 02:47:15,480
we don't need the extra stuff.
But I do have to play this

2764
02:47:15,480 --> 02:47:18,870
because I have to. I wonder if
there's mixed feelings at NBC

2765
02:47:19,320 --> 02:47:23,190
when Jimmy Fallon does this gag.
Now Jimmy Fallon is being

2766
02:47:23,190 --> 02:47:26,010
introduced is going to be the
host of the Golden Globes which

2767
02:47:26,010 --> 02:47:30,900
are tonight. Yes, that's true.
So he does this joke and I'm and

2768
02:47:30,900 --> 02:47:34,020
I have to think to myself, What
would then be see, can they get

2769
02:47:34,020 --> 02:47:36,600
in a suit come up to him and
say, you know, we're trying not

2770
02:47:36,600 --> 02:47:40,020
to trivialize this. You're
making fun of it, because it's

2771
02:47:40,020 --> 02:47:43,080
really counterproductive for the
narrative that we're trying to

2772
02:47:43,080 --> 02:47:47,040
push in this country that the
Russians are bad actors. So you

2773
02:47:47,040 --> 02:47:50,760
don't make light of it like he
doesn't is part of the promotion

2774
02:47:50,760 --> 02:47:55,500
for the Golden Globes biggest
scars in TV. You must

2775
02:47:58,560 --> 02:48:01,320
be sure to catch all the winners
voted on by you. The Russian

2776
02:48:01,320 --> 02:48:01,860
hackers.

2777
02:48:03,270 --> 02:48:09,630
Sell and host the Golden Globe
Award Don't you think?

2778
02:48:11,220 --> 02:48:13,890
I think it brings the academy
into question quite honestly.

2779
02:48:14,519 --> 02:48:18,929
I would say that. I would say
that if I'm an NBC executive and

2780
02:48:18,929 --> 02:48:22,499
I know what I'm supposed to do.
And then he does this joke. But

2781
02:48:22,499 --> 02:48:26,639
you the Russian hacker as a
little rich. Yes. I'm thinking

2782
02:48:26,639 --> 02:48:29,819
like can we tell him Can we
gripe at him but he's like the

2783
02:48:29,819 --> 02:48:32,939
number one nighttime show now
it's just Jimmy just Joe no

2784
02:48:32,939 --> 02:48:36,599
one's gonna die. He's just
kidding around. I I really

2785
02:48:36,599 --> 02:48:39,449
thinks somebody talks discuss
this at the network level.

2786
02:48:39,480 --> 02:48:46,020
That is funny. That is very
funny. YEAH. YEAH. Jimmy, you

2787
02:48:46,020 --> 02:48:47,970
wanted on the 34th floor.

2788
02:48:50,430 --> 02:48:54,690
Here's my one of my favorite
closer today. This guy's name

2789
02:48:54,720 --> 02:49:01,500
definitely is Dean Kenya's ex
head of the NRA, who was also a

2790
02:49:01,500 --> 02:49:04,080
book writer, and he's written
books defending the Second

2791
02:49:04,080 --> 02:49:09,900
Amendment. And he was on a C
span talking about his book. And

2792
02:49:09,900 --> 02:49:13,200
I believe it was he said, Yes,
it was. And this is a little

2793
02:49:13,230 --> 02:49:15,900
anecdote he threw in I have a
couple more of him that I will

2794
02:49:15,900 --> 02:49:19,110
use in other shows. But this is
an anecdote he throws in about

2795
02:49:20,010 --> 02:49:24,600
the show they have it they play
it on CNBC or not CNBC been on C

2796
02:49:24,600 --> 02:49:27,960
span where the where they bring
in a bunch of reporters, and

2797
02:49:27,960 --> 02:49:31,800
they host a breakfast and this
guy's grill. Oh, gosh, yes, yes,

2798
02:49:31,800 --> 02:49:36,360
I know. Exactly. Science Monitor
breakfast. Here's his little

2799
02:49:36,360 --> 02:49:38,880
story about his reporters in the
gun show

2800
02:49:38,910 --> 02:49:41,640
during what we call our gunfight
with when I was president of the

2801
02:49:41,640 --> 02:49:45,120
NRA with the Obama
administration. I was invited to

2802
02:49:45,120 --> 02:49:49,050
the the Christian Science
Monitor breakfast used to be

2803
02:49:49,050 --> 02:49:52,890
known as the Sperling breakfast
in Washington. So maybe 50 or 60

2804
02:49:52,890 --> 02:49:55,710
print broadcast reporters and
they have a guest there that

2805
02:49:55,710 --> 02:50:01,110
they call rang or asked
question. So I As the I was to

2806
02:50:01,110 --> 02:50:05,010
be put on the spit one morning,
and somebody brought up the

2807
02:50:05,040 --> 02:50:07,710
question of the gun show
loophole. And I said, I have a

2808
02:50:07,710 --> 02:50:10,290
question for all of you how many
people at this table? How many

2809
02:50:10,290 --> 02:50:14,220
of you reporters who write about
this have ever been to a gun

2810
02:50:14,220 --> 02:50:19,110
show? Nobody raised their hand.
So I said, okay, it just happens

2811
02:50:19,710 --> 02:50:24,690
that next weekend, in Virginia,
just outside Washington is going

2812
02:50:24,690 --> 02:50:29,010
to be the largest gun show in
this region. So the editor of

2813
02:50:29,010 --> 02:50:31,950
the monitor will pass around a
sign up sheet, and I will host

2814
02:50:31,950 --> 02:50:34,290
you, I'll take you there. So you
can look at this. And then if

2815
02:50:34,290 --> 02:50:36,870
you want, we can go to the NRA,
and you can do whatever you want

2816
02:50:36,870 --> 02:50:41,160
there. So that way, you'll know
what you're writing about. And

2817
02:50:41,160 --> 02:50:44,130
the poor guy called me Wednesday
of the next week, and he said,

2818
02:50:44,130 --> 02:50:47,670
nobody signed up. My reaction
was, why would you want to know

2819
02:50:47,670 --> 02:50:50,520
about something you were
reporting? So

2820
02:50:51,240 --> 02:50:56,160
yeah, that would be crazy. Yeah,
nuts. Don't be doing that. I

2821
02:50:56,220 --> 02:50:57,930
don't find that out about
anything.

2822
02:50:58,980 --> 02:51:03,210
A lot of people that are in the
media, especially modern New

2823
02:51:03,210 --> 02:51:07,050
reporters, and ones that don't
even like to go drinking, a lot

2824
02:51:07,050 --> 02:51:10,560
of these people would feel shame
ashamed of themselves if they

2825
02:51:10,560 --> 02:51:14,880
went to bed show. Exactly. Are
you going to take him up on that

2826
02:51:14,880 --> 02:51:16,080
offer to go to the gun show? I

2827
02:51:16,080 --> 02:51:19,470
would never, never I never to
gardening and jumping to your

2828
02:51:19,470 --> 02:51:19,800
right.

2829
02:51:19,920 --> 02:51:24,240
I would never go to a gun show.
There's guns there. And that's

2830
02:51:24,240 --> 02:51:29,340
the way they are. They're
extremely kind of closeted.

2831
02:51:29,370 --> 02:51:32,850
Yeah. Well, it's it really get
out there. And there's this kind

2832
02:51:32,850 --> 02:51:34,410
of monitor reporting we get,
they don't know what they're

2833
02:51:34,410 --> 02:51:35,190
talking about. It's

2834
02:51:35,190 --> 02:51:38,160
the same thing as not wanting to
say something as a hate crime

2835
02:51:38,160 --> 02:51:42,660
when it obviously is, it's the
same. It's the same shame or

2836
02:51:42,660 --> 02:51:47,190
worry or fear. I got a quick
multiparty really short clips

2837
02:51:47,610 --> 02:51:52,140
about the the women organizing
the March on Washington, DC.

2838
02:51:53,640 --> 02:51:57,780
This is now this is this is
supposed to be a really big

2839
02:51:57,780 --> 02:52:01,650
deal. And I was interested
because it was Carol. Carol at

2840
02:52:01,650 --> 02:52:05,280
facebook.com/carol. CNN, who had
these two women on one is

2841
02:52:05,310 --> 02:52:08,910
Latina. The other is I don't
know where she's from, but she's

2842
02:52:08,910 --> 02:52:13,020
Muslim. She's wearing hijab. And
as as I was listening to them,

2843
02:52:13,110 --> 02:52:18,930
I'm like, Oh, my God. First of
all, if this is how you become,

2844
02:52:18,930 --> 02:52:21,450
I'll just say people who hate
Donald Trump are going to

2845
02:52:21,450 --> 02:52:26,220
organize, this is going to be a
big failure. There. There's so

2846
02:52:26,220 --> 02:52:29,730
much hate, that they're not even
really focusing on how to do

2847
02:52:29,730 --> 02:52:32,880
this properly, and how to
communicate to people. And while

2848
02:52:32,880 --> 02:52:36,450
just here's a little intro of
these two ladies and the genesis

2849
02:52:36,480 --> 02:52:37,500
of the movement

2850
02:52:37,530 --> 02:52:40,260
today after President elect
Trump is inaugurated, hundreds

2851
02:52:40,260 --> 02:52:43,620
of 1000s of women will take dC
by storm they have one mission

2852
02:52:43,620 --> 02:52:46,620
in mind. So the bold message to
our government on Mr. Trump's

2853
02:52:46,620 --> 02:52:50,340
first day in office 200,000
Women are expected to attend.

2854
02:52:50,610 --> 02:52:53,040
Joining me now are the co chairs
of the Women's March on

2855
02:52:53,040 --> 02:52:56,430
Washington, Linda Sarsour, and
Carmen Perez. Welcome to both of

2856
02:52:56,430 --> 02:53:02,490
you. So you guys don't belong to
any political group. Yeah,

2857
02:53:02,790 --> 02:53:07,950
200,000 women like condiment?
How did you do that?

2858
02:53:08,429 --> 02:53:11,879
So really, a woman by the name
of Teresa who's from Hawaii, put

2859
02:53:11,879 --> 02:53:15,479
up a photo op post and sent it
to 40 of her friends. And when

2860
02:53:15,479 --> 02:53:19,379
she woke up 10,000 women were
joining her in Washington, DC.

2861
02:53:19,379 --> 02:53:22,679
And so there were other women
who also had kind of felt this

2862
02:53:22,679 --> 02:53:26,039
despair after the election and
wanted to find hope in DC

2863
02:53:26,039 --> 02:53:29,279
together. So this woman has
given her blessing to other

2864
02:53:29,279 --> 02:53:32,459
women. One of our other national
co chairs is Bob bland, who is

2865
02:53:32,549 --> 02:53:33,929
also founder of the march.

2866
02:53:34,140 --> 02:53:36,870
Now this is interesting, because
it was kind of a throwaway line

2867
02:53:36,870 --> 02:53:41,100
at the end there about Bob
bland. I like Bob brand, who the

2868
02:53:41,100 --> 02:53:45,000
hell is Bob bland? Well, Bob
bland, you've got to check this

2869
02:53:45,000 --> 02:53:48,750
up, is a woman that she's the
CEO and co founder of

2870
02:53:48,750 --> 02:53:52,470
manufacture in New York, a
social enterprise that is

2871
02:53:52,470 --> 02:53:56,070
rethinking the fashion
ecosystem, and creating a new

2872
02:53:56,070 --> 02:53:58,770
vertically integrated business
model that will transform

2873
02:53:58,770 --> 02:54:02,700
apparel and textile production
for the 21st century. So this is

2874
02:54:02,700 --> 02:54:06,390
a bunch of Fashionistas. The way
I see it, Bob bland is going to

2875
02:54:06,390 --> 02:54:10,560
be there, you know, gives a crap
about but she's a VC funded

2876
02:54:10,740 --> 02:54:15,150
shill in the fashion industry.
So then let's talk about this

2877
02:54:15,150 --> 02:54:18,840
grassroots movement that
includes shock celebrities. This

2878
02:54:18,840 --> 02:54:18,960
is a

2879
02:54:18,960 --> 02:54:21,990
grassroots effort. And because
we don't belong to any political

2880
02:54:21,990 --> 02:54:24,510
groups, we have no loyalties to
any political groups that we

2881
02:54:24,510 --> 02:54:27,300
aren't able to show what
ordinary Americans are capable

2882
02:54:27,300 --> 02:54:30,300
of doing. This is going to be
from the grassroots up we have

2883
02:54:30,300 --> 02:54:31,230
bus cold you think that

2884
02:54:31,350 --> 02:54:34,380
day they're trying to say it's
grassroots here. Do you think I

2885
02:54:34,380 --> 02:54:37,860
get the impression? The grass
involved? Yeah, but there's

2886
02:54:37,860 --> 02:54:41,310
money in there with VCs and Bob
bland and he was across the

2887
02:54:41,310 --> 02:54:45,870
country and over 45 states. We
have about 144 sister marches

2888
02:54:45,870 --> 02:54:49,200
that are happening here in the
United States but also globally

2889
02:54:49,200 --> 02:54:52,320
in Europe and places like
Australia. We have so many

2890
02:54:52,320 --> 02:54:54,720
exciting people like America for
era

2891
02:54:54,750 --> 02:54:59,610
oh yes America for another
fashionista. She was on the the

2892
02:54:59,640 --> 02:55:02,160
that fat fashions sitcom,
whatever the hell it was.

2893
02:55:03,120 --> 02:55:06,930
Perfect Betty Betty Betty Dumbo
what was it whatever it was, so

2894
02:55:06,960 --> 02:55:08,850
I have no more fashion. Yes.

2895
02:55:09,270 --> 02:55:13,410
People like America Ferreira who
is part of his she's chairing

2896
02:55:13,410 --> 02:55:16,350
our artists table artists table.
No, Carmen is

2897
02:55:16,620 --> 02:55:21,600
mentor Harry Belafonte is
culture. Yes, Harry Belafonte,

2898
02:55:21,960 --> 02:55:22,470
Stein,

2899
02:55:23,070 --> 02:55:26,250
who just came on board. And so
we've been very valid.

2900
02:55:27,120 --> 02:55:31,080
No, no, they are not affiliated
with any party whatsoever. Now,

2901
02:55:31,320 --> 02:55:34,500
now comes the part where that
you can see the organization is

2902
02:55:34,530 --> 02:55:36,540
stupid. So

2903
02:55:37,230 --> 02:55:38,940
what is the point? What is that?

2904
02:55:39,150 --> 02:55:42,330
What is the point? What is what
is the bold message you want to

2905
02:55:42,330 --> 02:55:45,570
send? What bold message then to
the Trump administration? I

2906
02:55:45,570 --> 02:55:45,960
mean,

2907
02:55:46,890 --> 02:55:51,900
you cannot ignore 200,000.
Conservatives just based on the

2908
02:55:51,900 --> 02:55:53,970
numbers of buses that we have,
because there could be random

2909
02:55:53,970 --> 02:55:56,790
people and random busses that we
don't know about yet. That we

2910
02:55:56,790 --> 02:55:59,970
will not be ignored there. We
want our President left in the

2911
02:55:59,970 --> 02:56:02,340
new administration and our
congress and senate. This is not

2912
02:56:02,340 --> 02:56:06,180
just about Donald Trump, this is
about our government, fashion

2913
02:56:06,180 --> 02:56:09,480
colors or women, we will protect
the most vulnerable amongst us.

2914
02:56:09,690 --> 02:56:11,670
We are intersectional human
beings we are

2915
02:56:11,910 --> 02:56:15,330
what your strengths are
sectional human beings. What

2916
02:56:15,330 --> 02:56:19,560
does that mean? I looked it up
for us. Intersectionality is a

2917
02:56:19,560 --> 02:56:22,440
term first coined in 1989 by
American civil rights advocate

2918
02:56:22,440 --> 02:56:25,380
and leading scholar of the
critical race theory, Kimberly

2919
02:56:25,380 --> 02:56:28,560
Williams Crenshaw, it is the
study of overlapping or

2920
02:56:28,560 --> 02:56:31,230
intersectional social identities
and related systems of

2921
02:56:31,230 --> 02:56:34,320
oppression, domination and
discrimination. I think what it

2922
02:56:34,320 --> 02:56:37,920
means if you're intersectional,
is you can be just as big an

2923
02:56:37,920 --> 02:56:42,540
asshole as men. I think that's
that's the idea. I think.

2924
02:56:43,200 --> 02:56:46,020
Yeah, I think you're probably
not right. But there's no

2925
02:56:46,020 --> 02:56:49,170
definition that that makes no
sense what you just read about

2926
02:56:49,170 --> 02:56:51,690
it. That's the definition. And
she's the one who defined it.

2927
02:56:52,230 --> 02:56:55,470
I think that we are
intersectional podcasters.

2928
02:56:55,530 --> 02:56:57,720
I think it's people that are
standing in the middle of the

2929
02:56:57,720 --> 02:56:59,940
street, they don't really know
where they should go. It's just

2930
02:56:59,940 --> 02:57:04,020
one of those streets. Do I cross
here rush the middle and you

2931
02:57:04,020 --> 02:57:06,780
have to go one by street.
Intersection?

2932
02:57:06,810 --> 02:57:10,260
Yes, in total, that we are
women, we will protect the most

2933
02:57:10,260 --> 02:57:13,410
vulnerable amongst us. We are
intersectional human beings, we

2934
02:57:13,410 --> 02:57:16,680
are impacted by so many issues,
including reproductive rights,

2935
02:57:17,100 --> 02:57:20,370
issues of immigration of racial
justice, religious freedom

2936
02:57:20,370 --> 02:57:23,790
issues. So we are going to be
out there with a broad spectrum

2937
02:57:23,790 --> 02:57:25,830
of people from class who is
going to be assessed to

2938
02:57:25,830 --> 02:57:28,710
reproductive rights to women's
rights to immigration, instead

2939
02:57:28,710 --> 02:57:29,460
of one man,

2940
02:57:29,460 --> 02:57:33,300
one bold message, it's going to
be 100 people who are going

2941
02:57:33,300 --> 02:57:37,260
climate change, and it would be
like gays and this is going to

2942
02:57:37,260 --> 02:57:39,630
be horrible. This is not gonna
get you right, no

2943
02:57:39,660 --> 02:57:43,470
native issues and issues. We're
here. We're watching you, we're

2944
02:57:43,470 --> 02:57:45,900
ready to fight back. And this is
what happens when ordinary

2945
02:57:45,900 --> 02:57:47,880
people are going to stand up and
say we're coming to you to

2946
02:57:47,880 --> 02:57:49,110
Washington DC on your first day.

2947
02:57:49,200 --> 02:57:52,380
So that is clearly clearly a
very bold message. But really in

2948
02:57:52,380 --> 02:57:54,810
this the last bit, just a
shorter you can really hear

2949
02:57:54,810 --> 02:57:56,910
that. Really they just hate
Trump. That's what it's about.

2950
02:57:57,960 --> 02:58:01,140
Women is one thing, this this
idea that women are so shallow

2951
02:58:01,140 --> 02:58:04,020
that we cared when we see other
women, women doesn't mean that

2952
02:58:04,020 --> 02:58:06,750
you stand for my issue. So if
you're appointing women, but

2953
02:58:06,750 --> 02:58:08,250
they're you're telling me you're
going to defund Planned

2954
02:58:08,250 --> 02:58:11,760
Parenthood, I don't want to hear
that. So I understand that women

2955
02:58:11,760 --> 02:58:13,890
are a lot more sophisticated.
We're a lot more intelligent

2956
02:58:13,890 --> 02:58:14,580
than he thinks we

2957
02:58:14,580 --> 02:58:17,190
are. Then he thinks we are.
There you go. So they just hate

2958
02:58:17,190 --> 02:58:20,490
Trump. That's pretty much it. If
you just hate Trump and come on

2959
02:58:20,490 --> 02:58:25,080
over and do your thing and just
hate Trump. That's what it will

2960
02:58:25,080 --> 02:58:34,050
be. All right. All right. It's
time. Okay, the Blitz clip

2961
02:58:34,050 --> 02:58:35,250
Blitz. Yes, hold on, we

2962
02:58:35,250 --> 02:58:43,140
only got three left. The final
submission of the votes in

2963
02:58:43,140 --> 02:58:47,100
Congress when Biden was up there
and the Democrats who always

2964
02:58:47,130 --> 02:58:51,060
could accuse Trump of doing this
tried to interrupt the final

2965
02:58:51,150 --> 02:58:56,040
Electoral College count in in
the session of the House and

2966
02:58:56,040 --> 02:58:56,940
Senate rules.

2967
02:59:00,480 --> 02:59:03,210
In today's other news, the
election of Donald Trump as

2968
02:59:03,210 --> 02:59:06,720
president was certified when
Congress tallied the Electoral

2969
02:59:06,720 --> 02:59:10,800
College votes. Vice President
Joe Biden presided as a number

2970
02:59:10,800 --> 02:59:14,490
of House Democrats objected. But
none had the support of a

2971
02:59:14,490 --> 02:59:18,270
senator, as the rules require,
even as people waited hours.

2972
02:59:19,199 --> 02:59:23,279
There's no debate. And if
there's not signed by a senator,

2973
02:59:23,369 --> 02:59:25,169
the objection cannot be
entertained,

2974
02:59:25,260 --> 02:59:28,920
Mr. President that the objection
is signed by a member of the

2975
02:59:28,920 --> 02:59:32,280
House but not yet by a member of
the Senate. It is over.

2976
02:59:37,530 --> 02:59:42,480
Mr. Trump finished with 304
electoral votes to 227 for

2977
02:59:42,480 --> 02:59:43,260
Hillary Clinton.

2978
02:59:46,380 --> 02:59:49,410
Let me let me let me throw a
clip in there because Biden said

2979
02:59:49,410 --> 02:59:51,540
something at the end of that
which you didn't have on your

2980
02:59:51,540 --> 02:59:51,930
clip,

2981
02:59:51,990 --> 02:59:56,610
the purpose of this joint
session, having been concluded,

2982
02:59:56,970 --> 03:00:00,120
pursuant to the Senate
concurrent resolution to With

2983
03:00:00,900 --> 03:00:04,680
the 115 Congress the chair
declares the joint session

2984
03:00:04,740 --> 03:00:05,460
dissolved.

2985
03:00:05,490 --> 03:00:19,800
Now listen, wait for it he says
God Save the Queen. The very end

2986
03:00:19,800 --> 03:00:24,420
very funny. All right,

2987
03:00:24,839 --> 03:00:26,519
Face Time manslaughter

2988
03:00:26,520 --> 03:00:29,220
story face time manslaughter
story.

2989
03:00:31,080 --> 03:00:35,040
tech giant Apple faces a new
lawsuit over a popular app used

2990
03:00:35,040 --> 03:00:39,150
by millions parents in Texas
contend a driver was distracted

2991
03:00:39,150 --> 03:00:43,080
while using Apple's facetime
when he hit their car and killed

2992
03:00:43,080 --> 03:00:46,110
their five year old daughter.
The suit questions whether Apple

2993
03:00:46,110 --> 03:00:49,260
should do more to stop accidents
just like this. And besides

2994
03:00:49,260 --> 03:00:50,790
Miguel Elmiger has that story.

2995
03:00:52,050 --> 03:00:57,750
Nice good. Cute little girl two
is a shame. Air rage and

2996
03:00:57,750 --> 03:01:03,420
conclusion. It's another call
they should be.

2997
03:01:04,470 --> 03:01:07,770
Air rage seems to be taking off
from this brawl on the flight

2998
03:01:07,770 --> 03:01:11,550
from Baltimore. This takedown in
Charlotte to Popstar Richard

2999
03:01:11,550 --> 03:01:15,630
Marx helping subdue and unruly
passenger last week worldwide

3000
03:01:15,630 --> 03:01:18,690
there were more than 10,000
cases of air rage reported by

3001
03:01:18,690 --> 03:01:21,780
airlines last year a 16% jump
from

3002
03:01:21,780 --> 03:01:22,860
the year before.

3003
03:01:22,920 --> 03:01:25,260
I don't think that alcohol
really is the cause of the

3004
03:01:25,260 --> 03:01:29,220
increase in air rage. The real
cause of air rage increase is

3005
03:01:29,280 --> 03:01:31,770
the lack of personal space on
aircraft.

3006
03:01:34,080 --> 03:01:37,530
Know the shocking thing about
that story with Richard marks.

3007
03:01:38,460 --> 03:01:43,680
He's He's married to Daisy
Fuentes. Yes. Yeah, well, you

3008
03:01:43,680 --> 03:01:47,190
may not know that means who that
is. I work with Daisy. She was

3009
03:01:47,190 --> 03:01:50,880
an MTV VJ. Right and that she
would marry Richard Marx.

3010
03:01:50,880 --> 03:01:55,950
Believe me if from people from
my era is mind boggling. Okay,

3011
03:01:55,980 --> 03:01:57,390
it's mind boggling.

3012
03:01:58,080 --> 03:02:01,350
Well, I found that the guy just
one expert comes out and says

3013
03:02:01,350 --> 03:02:04,590
hey, yeah, it's too nice space
are too close together.

3014
03:02:05,970 --> 03:02:08,400
Definitely good. That's it.
Okay.

3015
03:02:08,730 --> 03:02:18,840
Yeah. All right. Are you cranky?
Yeah, I'm

3016
03:02:18,840 --> 03:02:22,680
cranky. Why? I have a schedule.
I'm supposed to be I'm hired to

3017
03:02:22,680 --> 03:02:26,970
be cranky. Went to your door
doesn't make anybody cranky. So

3018
03:02:27,000 --> 03:02:27,960
in Oakland, this will be

3019
03:02:27,960 --> 03:02:31,560
my last clip. Oh, okay. Hold on
a second. Yes. All right.

3020
03:02:31,950 --> 03:02:35,310
Okay, this clip is called
Oakland Police Chief. Now I have

3021
03:02:35,310 --> 03:02:43,500
to say there's this woman. She
is a gray haired old lady. She

3022
03:02:43,500 --> 03:02:46,110
has been hired as Oakland. They
can't get anyone to be the

3023
03:02:46,110 --> 03:02:49,050
Oakland Police Chief because
it's impossible city. It's just

3024
03:02:49,050 --> 03:02:54,090
a mess that town. And so they
hired some old lady who really

3025
03:02:54,090 --> 03:02:57,900
has never been a police chief
except in Spokane, Washington,

3026
03:02:57,900 --> 03:03:01,290
where they ran her out of town.
And so she's really annoyed.

3027
03:03:01,290 --> 03:03:03,030
This is going to be one of the
funniest things you've ever

3028
03:03:03,030 --> 03:03:06,420
seen. But she sounds kinda like
an old lady. As she tells you.

3029
03:03:06,480 --> 03:03:11,250
She's got no real big town
experience whatsoever. And she's

3030
03:03:11,250 --> 03:03:14,610
an old woman. She's like this
old woman. I haven't one not

3031
03:03:14,610 --> 03:03:18,030
disparaging all the elderly that
listen to the show. I'm an old

3032
03:03:18,030 --> 03:03:22,920
man. Okay. She's an old woman.
And so let's play this case

3033
03:03:22,950 --> 03:03:26,280
Oakland's new police chief says
she's ready to hit the ground

3034
03:03:26,280 --> 03:03:30,210
running veteran law enforcement
leader and Kirkpatrick says she

3035
03:03:30,210 --> 03:03:34,470
has the courage to transform the
beleaguered Oakland Police

3036
03:03:34,470 --> 03:03:35,250
Department.

3037
03:03:35,280 --> 03:03:38,460
So we're moving forward. We'll
learn from the mistakes of our

3038
03:03:38,460 --> 03:03:41,940
past but the past is behind us
now. We learn from that and

3039
03:03:41,940 --> 03:03:42,750
we're moving forward.

3040
03:03:42,900 --> 03:03:46,650
Kirkpatrick is 34 years in law
enforcement includes serving as

3041
03:03:46,650 --> 03:03:50,340
chief in several cities in
Washington, and most recently

3042
03:03:50,340 --> 03:03:54,420
heading up police reforms in
Chicago. The Tennessee native

3043
03:03:54,420 --> 03:03:57,780
says she's not afraid to hold
officers accountable, but

3044
03:03:57,780 --> 03:04:02,010
promises to also be their
biggest champion for the men and

3045
03:04:02,010 --> 03:04:03,900
women of Oakland Police
Department. I

3046
03:04:03,900 --> 03:04:08,640
also want you to know that in
this chief, I have the courage

3047
03:04:08,640 --> 03:04:12,450
to stand by you. And I will

3048
03:04:12,480 --> 03:04:15,930
I'm glad and I think all the
officers that are glad that the

3049
03:04:15,930 --> 03:04:19,470
uncertainty of not having a
chief has now ended and we

3050
03:04:19,470 --> 03:04:22,500
actually have a chief of police
moving into the new year.

3051
03:04:22,650 --> 03:04:26,100
Kirkpatrick will be Oakland's
first female police chief at a

3052
03:04:26,100 --> 03:04:28,560
time the mayor says the
department needs a change in

3053
03:04:28,560 --> 03:04:32,700
culture. But Kirkpatrick says
it's all about leadership, not

3054
03:04:32,700 --> 03:04:33,240
gender.

3055
03:04:33,360 --> 03:04:39,360
I am a leader who is cloaked as
a woman. And I'm grateful for

3056
03:04:39,360 --> 03:04:43,020
being a woman. But I will be
your leader.

3057
03:04:44,340 --> 03:04:45,630
I be your Fuhrer.

3058
03:04:46,440 --> 03:04:50,100
This is Libby. She'll do this
woman this woman may or hired

3059
03:04:50,100 --> 03:04:53,880
her. Yeah. And this is going to
end this is not going to end up

3060
03:04:53,880 --> 03:04:55,200
well. I can assure you think

3061
03:04:55,200 --> 03:04:59,250
this was was actually a gender
hire. Is that your feeling? Yes

3062
03:04:59,250 --> 03:05:00,960
I think is told The agenda
higher.

3063
03:05:01,710 --> 03:05:04,560
Yeah, well, you better get some
guns up there.

3064
03:05:05,310 --> 03:05:09,030
Well, I don't live in Oakland.
Thank God. Yeah, but it spills

3065
03:05:09,030 --> 03:05:13,170
over man. Well, it's got his
fill over 1234 towns too many

3066
03:05:13,170 --> 03:05:13,710
towns before

3067
03:05:13,710 --> 03:05:15,630
you know what they're when
they're walking across the mud

3068
03:05:15,630 --> 03:05:16,140
flats

3069
03:05:17,220 --> 03:05:20,640
so they could separate today
it's been raining so much rent.

3070
03:05:20,970 --> 03:05:23,850
actually funny thing is as much
as it's rain and mudslides are

3071
03:05:23,850 --> 03:05:29,250
still there. I think yeah, we
need a high tide.

3072
03:05:30,510 --> 03:05:34,680
Alright, we'll be watching for
any Illuminati. devil worship on

3073
03:05:34,680 --> 03:05:37,140
the Golden Globes Of course. So
my beat

3074
03:05:37,170 --> 03:05:41,010
Golden Gloves doesn't have so
much of that will say and well

3075
03:05:41,010 --> 03:05:41,070
of

3076
03:05:41,070 --> 03:05:43,440
course we'll see the big
controversy. I'm sure they leave

3077
03:05:43,440 --> 03:05:46,230
someone out of the dead segment
and everyone gets all pissed off

3078
03:05:46,230 --> 03:05:50,100
about it that always happen. Oh,
yeah. And of course we will

3079
03:05:50,100 --> 03:05:54,420
return on Thursday to bring you
a another best podcast in the

3080
03:05:54,420 --> 03:05:56,160
universe. Another episode of it.

3081
03:05:56,730 --> 03:06:00,420
I think you got something out of
this one. Think of maybe helping

3082
03:06:00,420 --> 03:06:02,370
us out there with a small
contribution.

3083
03:06:02,430 --> 03:06:05,970
That's right. Remember us a
divorce. act.org/na and coming

3084
03:06:05,970 --> 03:06:08,730
to you from the crackpot condo
here in the skyscraper downtown

3085
03:06:08,730 --> 03:06:12,090
Austin Tejas, we are the capital
of the drone Star State located

3086
03:06:12,090 --> 03:06:17,130
in FEMA Region six on all
government maps. And until next

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Thursday, everybody in the
morning I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where this de luz a has actually

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stopped although looks like it's
going to reconnect later. I'm

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John C. Dvorak

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we'll be back on Thursday right
here on no agenda until then

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mofos

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donate to no agenda they give us
as we enter we donate to no

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agenda is a show that's really
unique donate to no agenda.

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Listen to John Adams be that own
a two with no science is turned

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into Klieg.

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Flying over Afghanistan or maybe
it was Pakistan I promised

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myself to aim myself at every
woman child and man that was on

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03:07:27,540 --> 03:07:33,360
my list. I don't care if I
missed I'm remote controlling I

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do what I'm told by someone at
comm you turn Obama gave me a

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03:07:38,940 --> 03:07:44,610
bush more than Bush and I cost
millions were supposed to target

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terrorists but not so much
civilians. I don't know why to

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03:07:50,100 --> 03:08:00,600
say rip some got in my way. A
drone again. Naturally a drone

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03:08:00,600 --> 03:08:03,960
again naturally

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blue and you don't know where
those things news? Why don't you

3106
03:08:14,040 --> 03:08:22,650
get your get mo fix. Dressed up
like a million dollar true.

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Trying not to look like Anderson

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03:08:26,910 --> 03:08:27,330
Cooper.

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03:08:29,340 --> 03:08:33,450
Calm let's mix with John Podesta
walks with kids. I mean pizzas

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in his mid boot and on the rest.
If you see something, say

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something.

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To accept science of climate
change, and 98% of the world's

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scientists believe is true.

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How do you know that 90% of the
world's scientists believe what

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you believe? The answer of
course is you have no idea. Or

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even 90% of the science. People
know. The answer of course is

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you have no idea. You don't want

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03:09:15,390 --> 03:09:18,300
your giant research team you
could send people out and find

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out about merely ask

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03:09:19,619 --> 03:09:22,739
them to explain something you
just said live on our show. And

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03:09:22,739 --> 03:09:25,799
then 98% of worldwide scientists
believe that how do you know

3122
03:09:25,799 --> 03:09:27,599
that? Are you are you a
scientist? Or have you been

3123
03:09:27,599 --> 03:09:30,809
pulled other scientists or where
do you get that figure? You're

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03:09:30,809 --> 03:09:34,229
practicing a religion where
anybody doesn't really think you

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03:09:34,229 --> 03:09:42,299
believe is inherently true. Of
The World scientists believe you

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03:09:42,299 --> 03:09:48,659
believe the answer of course you
have no idea of 98% of science.

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03:09:48,659 --> 03:09:53,579
I mean, I don't hear people say
that. The answer was you have no

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03:09:53,579 --> 03:09:56,429
idea. I'm a skeptic of
everything including your

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03:09:56,429 --> 03:09:56,909
answers.

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Amen Adios mopho.org/n

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