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Nothing says I'm Muslim like
running around naked. Adam

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curry, John C. Dvorak. It's
Thursday, April 16 2015. Time

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for your give a nation media
assassination episode 713.

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This is no agenda.

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Celebrating nine years of not
winning and broadcasting live

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from the West Wing of Grand Duke
David Foley's High Roller sweet

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and FEMA Region nine in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where the High Roller suites

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consists of looking over garbage
cans. I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill.

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Take two.

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We have garbage day today. Yeah.
And I had to go running down

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there because I don't know. The
guy one truck comes by and

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knocks the other cans over.

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And do they have a second truck
that comes by to pick it up?

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There's three cans, three trucks
and they expect to canopy

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standing. Anyway,

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so I'm here in the High Roller
suite of Sir David Foley, Grand

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Duke of the USA who kindly
notified me that that he had an

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entire West Wing available here
in the Cosmopolitan Hotel.

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Did you did that save you money?
Or did you have

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no completely got a complete
refund on the hotel? Good. Yeah.

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And then so stayed here for
free. He took care of me. They

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actually served Jean Baron, the
Marriott sheriff of Texas was

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also here. And he's also been
taking care of me just like he's

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in the

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suite. You

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know, he's in Vegas, he's not in
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So next thing would be Mike
Tyson would be in this

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for the tiger. Hey. Yeah, but
it's I got here to Tuesday

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afternoon and the National
Association of Broadcasters here

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along with the New Media Expo
and the 10th annual Podcast

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Awards. And I decided it was it
made a lot more sense to stay

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and do the show from here and
after we restarted the show.

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Because it was so atrocious on
the hotel Wi Fi I'm on the I'm

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on Verizon on the on the LTE is.
It's pretty funny how

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when I check into a hotel like
that, Well Chris, you you're

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stuck, you're in that room. So
you don't have a choice. But I

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always ask this if there's a
room with a wired connection.

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It's fine to have Wi Fi and
these things be sketchy. So I

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connected to there is Ethernet
here and I connected to it. It's

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same, same crap. Makes it
because I have a little router I

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have a mini router that I carry
everywhere and plugged it into

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the Ethernet. So I had my own
little sub network and it was

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just crap. I don't know how they
get away.

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They didn't hold on and say
that's the Cosmopolitan Hotel.

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Yeah. That's what like one

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of the newest places in Vegas.
Yeah. Four years old or

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something, I think. Yeah.

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And they can't have good
connectivity. It's ridiculous.

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It's pathetic. It's pathetic.
Anyway, but I have news.

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Guess what? What we didn't

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win. Oh, like we knew that
before the event occurred?

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Yeah. And I there's no way to
nuance it. But these Podcast

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Awards, this is the 10th year
and it's not the same people who

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were organizing it this year was
podcast one, which is very

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strange to me. As podcasting
started out as completely

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independent, and podcast one is
norm Pattis. Who started

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Westwood one.

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Yeah, he thinks he can. Well,
this is the thing you've talked

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about a lot. Sometimes you've
talked about it off the air

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where we've discussed this, you
have this. And I'm all in with

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your thesis on this. And of
course, you've been doing it

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longer than anyone that these
networks are crazy. The idea of

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a network of network of podcasts
is is kind of nuts.

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The I think I've proved very
successfully. The only thing

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about pod show that was
successful as we prove that

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network of shows doesn't work.
It just doesn't work. And

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let's explain to some people why
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The reason why it doesn't work
is well first of all, podcasting

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has a an inherent issue of
measurement. So how many people

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listen, and you know, just like
we've seen banner ads and other

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types of advertising. Online,
there is no central organization

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like Nielsen or Arbitron for
radio, who are of the, you know,

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the God given word of this is
this is what it is. Of course,

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when it comes to television
ratings, we don't actually know

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if someone watched the show or
if they walked away during the

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commercials or took a leak or we
don't know that but it doesn't

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matter because the Nielsen
ratings are there and proof that

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that's your number. And it's
just an industry standard. So we

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have a number of different
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Interestingly, Nielsen is trying
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They are not seen as an
authority. And there's just too

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many questions, you know,

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we'll do is it isn't one of the
problems for Nielsen or anybody

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tries to get into that game for
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of podcasts A, and the low
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of them be?

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Well, we don't even know what it
all is. Hi all asterisks. Yeah.

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Yeah, that I'll be below 1.0, or
what is 0.5? Or whatever it is.

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Yeah, true. True. But this, you
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regardless, you just need a
central source. So it's not

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there. The when it comes to a
network, which I ran, one of the

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podcasts was doing exactly the
same. They've hired a number of

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people to do their show and have
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podcast, one, they have their
own app. And, you know, this is

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the bet it's like, I'm seeing
history repeat itself. And then

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they're being paid a, you know,
probably a, from what I

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understand the salary that they
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to be a few, and the people who
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getting paid, they're going to
be incredibly painful. Just like

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the Uber pool, or the Uber pop
drivers, they're gonna be

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complaining all the time. And
there's always bad blood, oh, I

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didn't get promoted on the
homepage. You don't care about

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me, I didn't get in on that
advertise. It doesn't work. It

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just doesn't work. And you can
get critical mass. The only

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thing that seems to work is if
you there's two things that seem

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to work in show, like Leo does,
which by the way, I have to say

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for all the arguments we have,
he does those in show reads

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really well. He convinces you

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your theory is simple, which is
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does as well as it does because
actually, Leo is a fantastic

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pitchman, one

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of the best I've ever seen.
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It's really incredible how he
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adds, I think the way Serial
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start the show, there's a read
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fires up the show, it's kind of
hard to miss. But you know, that

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doesn't scale, you can't have
five of them. And let's be

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honest, when twit starts in this
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go, I'm fast forwarding. I'm not
listening to that. It's okay. I

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know what's happening here.
Brought to you by brought to you

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by advertising in general is in
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think. And then there's the
inventory issue, which is what

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I've always said, the reason why
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million dollars for a spot is
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time. So you have a

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scarcity. Yeah, it's like a real
estate in Hong Kong. Yeah. It's

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not

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like they're gonna build some
new overnight. But with banner

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ads or anything, you know,
there's no, there's never a

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scarcity just make more. Just
make more banner ads, make more

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pages more podcasts, there's no
way there's no scarcity so you

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can't get the price high enough.
So then everyone has to resort

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to per inquiry, as we call it,
or you will use a code and

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you're going to have a loyalist
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you know, some networks do okay?
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someone used the code to
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is pretty much the only way. But
it matters not. Because let's

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get back to the Podcast Awards.
Even though we didn't win, we

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were nominated in two
categories. And actually, I was

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called out as Oh, he's here. I
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Sorry. Yes. Ladies and
gentlemen. Up For Adam curry.

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Yeah, it's

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like, oh, this is year 10. Boy,
the first year the only people

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here on stage random curry and
Wolfman Jack. Oh, boy, that was

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really funny. It probably would
have been if it was Dennis

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Miller, who was slated to host
the awards with Emily from sex

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with Emily, who we know from the
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even if he slammed me wish he
would have that would have been

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funny. But he all of a sudden he
was not on the the bill. He was

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hosting the award bailed out. I
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they didn't even do a run
through man. This was so

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pathetic. And I felt bad for for
Chris Jericho and Emily Morris.

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I think her name is I feel bad.
Now they were really struggling.

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And of course the room was
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there was only half full with
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Always a mistake. And you know,
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small and overflowing.

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And the only people there were
nominees. And so there's a I

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have a couple of theories on why
we didn't win. Certainly what

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was interesting to see was Brian
Brushwood who won with night

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attack and he accepted the award
for Tom Merritt for the daily

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tech news show. And when he went
up, he said, you know, hey, you

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know, we went independent, we
went independent and He kept

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mentioning that and then of
course, this is not a jury of

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your or a jury of your peers who
are selecting these every single

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category is a People's Choice
Award. And the it seems pretty

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obvious to me that because of
the rift between people who left

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the twit network that there was
a lot of incentive for people to

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say, I will show that guy will
show them who really wins. Yeah,

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I think there was an element of
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Yeah. The Bots and then voting.
Yeah. And then the via why we

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didn't win that my theory is
very simple as libertarians just

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don't vote so by our audience,
just I don't think I think a lot

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of people didn't vote we also
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And did you vote? Once? Well,
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can't vote more than you can't
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didn't have, you can

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vote once a day.

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Oh, no. There you go. How does?
How does that make sense?

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It doesn't make sense. Alright,
so you have the fanatics that

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you know, love Tom and hate the
fact that Leo fired him. Yeah.

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And or quit or we don't know,
doesn't matter. And it doesn't

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matter. And so they would all
vote once a day. And the

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problem? I think it would, you'd
have in some ways. With the show

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like ours, if everyone was all
in it was voting once a day,

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that would probably give him the
moral license is in tribute to

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his his show in ways that are
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which is donating.

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I think you're spot on with
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license, and I'm okay with that.
In this case. You know, the

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Yeah, I support the show. I
don't need the vote. It, it

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would just it would have been
nice because I had a speech

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which would have been fantastic.

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You add a speech course just in
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Oh, that's That's bad luck.

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No, no, it's not bad. But I can
tell you this with that award,

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particular award show. You could
have just given the speech. Just

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take the thank you part out.

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There you go. It was nice
meeting Sargent. Fred, he was

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there. He's always representing
the no agenda show. Then handed

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out to double nickels on the
dime on the spot met his lovely

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daughter and her fiance Matt.
And so that was that was admit a

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lot of people was oh, I finally
met Jennifer Briney. From a

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congressional righty. She was
texting you. Have you ever met

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her? No. She wants to have lunch
with you. And she asked me if if

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I thought that you would accept
if that would be okay.

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Yeah, she's living over here in
Oakland. So it's very easy to do

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in the hood. She was

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so she's fired. She's she's

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in this ritzy. This is funny,
because she told me this an

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email that she's in. I know
where she's in some part of town

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that is all new and built up.
It's nothing like normal

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Oakland. Uh huh. It's kind of
the elites. Oh, really? Okay,

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guys, kind of.

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So let me tell you about her.
Super cute.

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Yeah, she makes sense. She
sounds cute. She's 511 Oh, no,

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she doesn't sound fine. Oh,

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and she was wearing a Japanese
schoolgirl outfit. Yes. With the

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knee socks and the and the
plaid. Skirt and the what are

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the shoes?

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Yeah, those shoes.

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What are they called? Is it Mary
Jane's or something?

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What they're called. Like,

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it's the same one that that
Feinstein was talking about when

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when she mentioned her head is
gone. Which I had to keep

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thinking of that when I was
talking to her like this is

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strange. But besides that, of
course, the National Association

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of Broadcasters convention was
on so this is a this really is

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all about gear and technology
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great it's one of the best shows
in there are because it not for

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the I mean, there's a lot of
good stuff on the floor. You can

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go I had for example, this is my
last year. So I went to the

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country man booth.

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Oh yeah. I saw I went to the
country man booth as well. Yeah.

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And country men are those little
microphones that people have

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that over a year almost
invisible colored head and they

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go over your ear and they come
around did a cool on for your

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butthole too. So I had one of
the founders kids who obviously

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works there all the time. I told
him that when I wear these

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things they can flop and off.
And so he showed me how to put

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one on properly. And the kicker
to me was this little factoid

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when put on absolutely property
a properly the microphone head

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is actually pushed against your
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and it's very annoying.

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It's not but it's not what the
thing is annoying is the watch

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people that have it. So it's
like a little bitty boom mic.

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That's not what it's supposed to
be. It's supposed to be up

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against your cheek. Yeah.

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Okay, so a couple of I've wrote
I had took some notes and I

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wrote down a few things about
the about the show itself. First

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of all, this was new for me
while walking through the halls,

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every 10 or 15 minutes or so,
all of a sudden there would be

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this very distinct odor of
patchouli oil.

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yeah, and I was walking with the
with the Grand Duke, and I said,

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Dude, are you actually wearing
patchouli oil? He's like, No, I

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thought it was you know, no. And
it was really strange. And and I

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maybe it maybe just thought it
was patchouli oil, maybe it's

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that you know, been Vegas.
They're well known for pumping

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all kinds of scents into the
air, and over oxygenating and

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stuff like that. I have no idea.
Maybe someone in our audience

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may know what's what's going on
with that. Something that was

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new that I didn't that I've
never really why don't go to

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trade shows pretty much ever.
When you walk up to a booth. And

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you have your badge, which has
your name and stuff in a little

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QR code. Every single booth
there will be a booth babe. And

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I say this because no guys were
there. It was just booth babes.

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And they'll be Hi. And then they
aim this device at my chest with

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a red bow. What are you doing?

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They started this a few years. I
don't

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like you aiming anything that
turns red on my on my clothes.

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You know, I have a dot phobia.
Please don't do this. He's very

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rude.

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It's a grocery scanner. Yeah,
yeah. But the way they ask I'd

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never seen him do that we've
done volunteer on involuntarily,

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mostly. So can I scan your
badge? They usually say

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something. I don't know why they
weren't saying anything to you.

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Because generally, I think it's
frowned upon to just take the

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take the information, I presume

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that this has been going on so
long that people are just used

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to it. And everyone seems to be
okay with it. But I found that

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to be aggressive. I don't know,
I just didn't. I

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thought if you don't like it
doing that I

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was turning your badge over.

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You got your badge on your you
take your right hand and quickly

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put it over the badge and then
yell nine.

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I've resorted to my typical
punch in the gut. This is what I

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always do. Nine nice Scanlon is
one of mine fire out to Luke. A

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tip that I learned a tip maybe
you already didn't know this.

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But a tip if you're ever at a
convention in lost wages. And

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this is a tip from the Grand
Duke. You do not want to wait

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for cabs. And of course, there's
no Uber here. There's no Uber in

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Vegas. Which is,

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yeah, I've never I've never gone
to Vegas without renting a car.

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And where do you park near the
convention center.

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There's a little hotel that's on
one of the streets that will

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allow you to park in there a lot
of for a fee of 10 bucks.

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So if you go week, by the way,
if you go behind the convention

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center, there are very
depressing looking apartments.

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And all the residents during the
convention, remove their own

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cars and they pulled together
and they put one guy out and you

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park in their parking spots. And
it's literally right behind me.

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You can see the right behind the
loading dock. Yeah, hundreds of

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spaces. This hotel

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is just as close. And it's very
few people under know this

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because they don't advertise
that you just drive you drive

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into the little opening and you
say guy, can I get a spot for

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the day or week, and then they
give you a tag and you just

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drive in as a fantastic.
Fantastic. I know you never you

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always have to rent a car and
you always have to rent a car in

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Vegas because it is impossible
to get a cab and you look like

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an idiot standing in these lines
that are miles long. And the

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buses are just the just fall
Yeah. And then that night you

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have it's cold. It's cold at

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night. It's cold. It cans

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now.

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Now here's the thing that blew
me away was the drone pavilion.

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This year. The drones were
everywhere. But the drone they

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had just must have been 50
booths all about drones demos

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with big nets up to the ceiling,
but they were drones John I

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should say quad copters

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will mostly I want to stop here
and mention to people that are

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wondering why? It's because the
Hollywood and broadcasters both

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used camera drones for some of
their shots of for news and

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other things, sports events, all
kinds of sports events. So the

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drones took I remember first
seeing drones at NAB maybe five

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or six years ago, or maybe even
longer, but there weren't that

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many there's like the one or two
it's very expensive ones use for

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Hollywood. And then ces started
getting drones into their show

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and now these guys picked up the
pace I think they're gonna wipe

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see Yes out from the drone wire.

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Oh I'm sure. And but payloads
huge, like the big camera

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because the, if you can call her
wingspan on these quad copters

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from one arm to the other six
feet, six feet and redundant

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rotors, the rotors must have
been a foot long each. Someone's

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gonna get killed one of these
days. Oh yeah, it's gonna chop

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an arm off or a head or
something like that head if it's

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a head it'd be good. And it was
just I was blown away by these

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things. These are dangerous you
can't have this crap fly flying

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around the sky. Very dangerous,
very dangerous. If I when I saw

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the when I saw the rotors that
were propellers or you would

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call the rotors these are lethal
weapons and not enclosed or

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anything just loose and the bed
should be caged and how heavy

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teeth I should have gotten some
brochures. But even if this

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thing just falls on your head,
you're dead. You're dead. You're

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dead. This is this is a big
thing that's flying around. So

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whenever and then I have a tip
for everybody. A tip if you're

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in Vegas, have you ever John
been to Cabos restaurant?

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Which restaurant is that

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capos? It's me. Where's it? I
don't know. It's I may have been

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there. You can find it on the
Google. So you bounced. It's a

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it's a grungy looking place.
You'd be walking in you ring the

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bell. And then a little not
where you ring the bell. What

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looks like a door but then
there's kind of a wall all of a

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sudden, the painting moves away,
the door opens and the guy goes,

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Yeah, what do you want? How many
of us, what's your name? And

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it's like a gangster restaurant.
And then you go in the door

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closes and it's complete with a
crooner at the piano. It's like

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you're in gangster Ville.

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Is that that space? Right near
the convention center

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is I really don't know. I do not
know. Cabos

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called Cabo speakeasy.

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Yes. That's the one that's the
way it

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was set up that way. Yeah.

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That was really all the waiters
got, you know, like Brooklyn

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slash New Jersey attitude
accents. The there's, there's

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there's actors just sitting at
the bar. Go Hey, how you doing?

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How you doing? I have a good
experience. I liked it very

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much. It was cool. Yeah. And
then of course, I just want to

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thank Todd Cochran he was really
nice see him Dave Jackson,

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everybody else who, who popped
up on the scene. Good to see

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everybody. Especially Jen. My
goodness. She's single she was

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probably thrilled to see you.
She's a huge fan.

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Yes, I think so.

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But she's she's even our
politics are completely the

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opposite of your you think?
Yeah, I think

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she's very happy that she's on
the on the stream and everything

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that we'd like you to do.

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She's good. She has a good
product.

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I think at pretty much this.
There's some work that needs to

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be done, but otherwise no
outstanding product as far as

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I'm concerned. So that was it.
And then I'll fly back tonight.

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Why did you go to this thing?

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Because it was actually
Christina. Who said Dad, you're

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single we can sit around with
your hand in your pants like Al

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Bundy go go to Vegas? I think
she threw a party at the at the

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apartments exactly

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what she gets

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out of the house. We already got
a pole Yeah, we're

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good to go hang the doobies
Yeah, got the poll. Yeah, let's

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do it. That's

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party Yeah,

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that's you get back you'll see
because I think that I was so

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red but burns all over the
place. I was so petrified of

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stale here.

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We'll see. We'll see. So I think
she was right you know as good

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as it gets the your your neurons
are firing the you're in a

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different place stuff is
happening.

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Yeah, sometimes you gotta get
out. Yeah, I think so. Of course

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when you left you're lucky you
didn't get robbed because play

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the clip. Airport thefts.

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Hold on a second.

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Which is the one I wanted to
play last time.

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Here we go airport theft.

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I know you love traveling. So
check this out. You're about to

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see video of baggage thieves
caught red handed flipping

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through rifling through luggage
to problem a nationwide and it's

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not just about stopping theft.
Drew Griffin with our partners

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at CNN reports.

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These are airport baggage
handlers. Thieves inside the

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belly of a plane rifling through
passengers bags. What are they

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looking for? The valuables that
you pack that you thought would

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be safe. But in never before
seen video obtained by CNN.

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Undercover cameras and the
police are catching the baggage

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handlers in the act. Stealing on
planes and In supposedly secure

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areas of the airport, the video
even caught a security guard

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apparently in the air. My
reaction to seeing those videos

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is really discussed. It's pretty
incredible, isn't it? The video

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comes from a sting set up by
Miami Dade police to stop a rash

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of fifths 31 ramp workers and
baggage handlers have been

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arrested since 2012. Caught on
Camera, red handed, and when you

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catch them, catch them in the
act like you did on these

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videos. What's the response? A
lot of times there is no

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response other than shocked that
they were caught. And that's

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okay with us. There's many of
them that we can take away off

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of the airfield, the better it
is for everybody that travels

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through my international
airport, but it's certainly not

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just happening in Miami. A CNN
analysis finds over the past

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five years and nearly 31,000
Passenger claims of items

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missing from luggage filed with
the TSA. About 25,000 of those

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claims alleged valuables missing
from checked bags. The rest they

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disappeared from a TSA
checkpoint 513 TSA officers have

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been fired for theft since 2002.
Including one who had stolen

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items in this secret
compartment. It adds up to $2.5

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million worth of passenger
belongings gone

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you know what galls me? You
probably also heard about these

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two TSA agents who were fired
because they had set up with a

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female agent when good looking
guys would walk through the

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array go through the scan talked

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about we talked about on the
last show do we did

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I don't remember that. Yeah,

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I better get the guy than a boy
you get you something's wrong.

445
00:26:52,410 --> 00:26:53,070
You're nuts.

446
00:26:54,510 --> 00:26:58,860
Excuse me nut check here, sir,
if you don't mind. But what

447
00:26:58,860 --> 00:27:02,880
galls me is they just get fired.
Now these people are part of

448
00:27:02,910 --> 00:27:05,310
Department of Homeland Security.
These are they need to go to

449
00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:09,420
jail. They these people who used
to be really prosecuted. I have

450
00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:12,840
no no How can I have any trust
in these Goombas

451
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,940
I agree 100% They should all be
jailed, because if they're

452
00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:22,770
working national security job,
and they're failing to do what

453
00:27:22,770 --> 00:27:24,570
they're supposed to do, and then
they're actually abusing their

454
00:27:24,570 --> 00:27:26,940
powers. They should be in jail.
Yeah, that's the people you

455
00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:29,730
know, jail. Somebody smoking
dope. No.

456
00:27:30,930 --> 00:27:36,750
And but this of course, in some
way, I believe there is. There's

457
00:27:36,750 --> 00:27:42,450
an attack going on on Johnson
witness the gyrocopter that

458
00:27:42,450 --> 00:27:45,630
landed on the lawn of the yes in
fact, I have a clip. Yeah, good

459
00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:49,170
because I was here it wasn't
able to get a clip. What do you

460
00:27:49,170 --> 00:27:50,850
have? Where's, where's it

461
00:27:51,210 --> 00:27:55,680
Gyrocopter? I don't know gyro
story is actually an auto.

462
00:27:55,890 --> 00:27:58,410
Thank you. You're ahead of
you're ahead of me.

463
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,740
The US Capitol had a brief
security scare today when a

464
00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:05,910
gyrocopter landed on the west
lawn. The single seed helicopter

465
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:10,500
unsettled about a half a city
block the Capitol building.

466
00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:14,340
Police quickly cordoned it off
at a bomb disposal unit found

467
00:28:14,370 --> 00:28:18,570
nothing hazardous. The website
of a Florida mailman Doug Hughes

468
00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:21,840
announced he carried out the
stunt to protest political

469
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,530
corruption.

470
00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:28,170
So a couple of things. First of
all, this is not a helicopter,

471
00:28:28,350 --> 00:28:31,140
it does not function like a
helicopter auto gyro is the

472
00:28:31,140 --> 00:28:34,560
correct term. Then what
coincidentally, I've been

473
00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:39,090
looking into auto gyros for a
while because the new ones this

474
00:28:39,090 --> 00:28:42,750
one we call a broomstick. That
is the that is the aviation

475
00:28:43,170 --> 00:28:46,890
slang terminology for the auto
gyro and it looks like a

476
00:28:46,890 --> 00:28:50,340
broomstick. Like the guys flying
a broomstick. The the new ones

477
00:28:50,340 --> 00:28:54,750
have a side by side seating,
carbon fiber enclosed cockpit

478
00:28:54,780 --> 00:28:56,880
air conditioning. And you know
even with the air conditioner,

479
00:28:57,150 --> 00:29:00,720
yeah, you can still get 100
knots and it's very efficient,

480
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,060
you can put these things in your
garage is very, very nice. And

481
00:29:03,060 --> 00:29:06,420
they know you can lease them for
about the price of a car these

482
00:29:06,420 --> 00:29:10,590
days. And I think they're very,
they're actually incredibly

483
00:29:10,590 --> 00:29:13,380
safe. Because you are sorry,

484
00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:16,620
I question that because my
understanding is that the auto

485
00:29:16,620 --> 00:29:22,260
gyro even though they used to be
very popular in like the 70s 70s

486
00:29:22,530 --> 00:29:26,160
because you could fly you could
fly you could drive around some

487
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,520
of the agricultural areas and
you'd find these guys goofing

488
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,030
around racing each other in
these things over fields. And

489
00:29:33,030 --> 00:29:36,690
they're pretty cool and they
they're very maneuverable. And

490
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,350
and well you can explain how
they work but essentially you

491
00:29:40,350 --> 00:29:46,170
have a kind of a helicopter like
wing that's not hooked to

492
00:29:46,170 --> 00:29:50,220
anything just kind of supports
it's like an airfoil and over

493
00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:52,860
the top of these things and once
they get spinning, they fly

494
00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:56,370
around like like a regular
airplane. But I keep hearing

495
00:29:56,370 --> 00:29:58,950
that they're extremely dangerous
and people were most people used

496
00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:59,970
to fly them are all dead.

497
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,840
Now, I'm sorry, that's just not
true. So with a helicopter,

498
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,060
where the rotor and tail rotor
are powered, should your engine

499
00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:12,660
fail, then you immediately and
depending on the type of

500
00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:15,930
helicopter, you have half a
second to while in like an

501
00:30:15,930 --> 00:30:18,660
extreme, you can have seven
seconds, but that's a different

502
00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:22,110
type of machine. But let's say
up to about a second to put it

503
00:30:22,110 --> 00:30:25,200
into auto rotation, which is
like a maple. Is it a maple

504
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,630
leaf? That if you see a maple
leaf model, is that a maple?

505
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:33,630
What am I thinking of that that
floats down to twirls down to

506
00:30:33,630 --> 00:30:39,660
the ground? I don't know how to
Maple. Anyway. So with the auto

507
00:30:39,660 --> 00:30:44,190
gyro, you're constantly in auto
right rotation. So even if your

508
00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:48,570
engine quits, then you can,
nothing will change, you just

509
00:30:48,570 --> 00:30:51,720
you're going to have to land.
But you don't have to do any

510
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:54,510
quick maneuvering to get into
auto rotation. You're in auto

511
00:30:54,510 --> 00:30:59,460
rotational already. So the
chances of you landing fine are

512
00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:00,510
much greater.

513
00:31:01,050 --> 00:31:04,980
I have now I have a question
that just came to mind while you

514
00:31:05,010 --> 00:31:08,280
describe the auto rotation thing
in a regular helicopter, which

515
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,240
is the disengaging from the
engines. Why isn't this done

516
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:17,010
automatically by computer? Yeah,

517
00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:19,080
well, why don't we get into
that? Well, you want to go right

518
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,340
into that I actually I do have
may play a quick clip from MSNBC

519
00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:28,650
because it's galled me when I
heard this. This is Alex Wagner.

520
00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:33,330
This, this woman who has her
show and she has a panel. And it

521
00:31:33,330 --> 00:31:38,820
was very strange to hear how
they treated this. What I would

522
00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:43,080
call almost a part of the six
week cycle cluster. Certainly

523
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,260
because it was known the guy had
called ahead he did interviews

524
00:31:46,260 --> 00:31:48,360
with a newspaper he told
everyone was going to do it he

525
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,090
was interviewed by the cops
interviewed by Secret Service.

526
00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:54,810
Oh and guess what then he did
it. Ben please this is insulting

527
00:31:54,810 --> 00:31:57,180
and here's how MSNBC respond. Is
this

528
00:31:57,180 --> 00:32:00,630
a Christopher Lloyd who did he
plan Back to the Future and camp

529
00:32:00,630 --> 00:32:04,770
dot doc invention or is that
actually something USPS has

530
00:32:04,770 --> 00:32:06,450
Yeah, I have no idea I use

531
00:32:06,450 --> 00:32:07,800
he allowed to use it.

532
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,190
Breaking all kinds of rules like

533
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:12,900
campus official Gyrocopter.

534
00:32:16,740 --> 00:32:20,280
I will say I think there is
something great though I don't

535
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,880
encourage people to break
federal law. Citizens he was

536
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,480
trying to deliver a load of
letters to congressional

537
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,070
representatives to get to that
get the message to them.

538
00:32:33,180 --> 00:32:36,030
Great PR stunt we're talking
about it, but I bet you this guy

539
00:32:36,030 --> 00:32:38,040
is going to be under
surveillance for a long time.

540
00:32:39,150 --> 00:32:41,250
Like that. He did try and call
the Secret Service like Hey,

541
00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:42,390
it's me the gyrocopter thing.

542
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:46,650
Services radar,

543
00:32:47,970 --> 00:32:48,900
Gyrocopter.

544
00:32:50,430 --> 00:32:52,200
So funny, eight holes

545
00:32:53,490 --> 00:32:55,800
stupid like a chicken hen house.

546
00:32:55,950 --> 00:32:58,200
So let me get to your question
because this is very relevant

547
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:04,140
for some other really poorly
reported news about the night

548
00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:09,630
even saw a tweet from you. The
news is and I have here's a this

549
00:33:09,630 --> 00:33:13,710
is a fantastic report from Jake
Tapper on CNN who had who did

550
00:33:13,710 --> 00:33:17,040
not have Richard Quest as the
CNN aviation expert.

551
00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:23,070
Interestingly enough, there's
not his car. He couldn't get his

552
00:33:23,070 --> 00:33:27,240
boots off. The dildo is in the
way, Google him to figure out

553
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,710
what that's about. Some girl,
I'll just call her a girl who is

554
00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:38,280
clearly completely oblivious to
aviation, and didn't even read

555
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,540
the report. This is a GAO at a
General Accounting Office. This

556
00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:49,290
is an oversight organization who
released a report about not

557
00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:55,260
about planes being hacked, know
about the next generation

558
00:33:56,970 --> 00:34:00,000
aviation system which we have
been talking about for several

559
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,990
years. And this is the
computerization of aviation

560
00:34:04,020 --> 00:34:08,280
across the board. And I'll let
me play this little bit because

561
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,980
it's just too funny. All the
mistakes and the bullcrap that

562
00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:13,140
is coming out of this woman's
mouth and alarming

563
00:34:13,139 --> 00:34:15,629
government watchdog report
released just minutes ago,

564
00:34:15,779 --> 00:34:19,799
exposing flaws in newer
airliners computer systems on

565
00:34:19,799 --> 00:34:23,939
board, the report says could be
hacked causing a major system

566
00:34:23,939 --> 00:34:27,809
failure or potentially even
crash. CNN aviation

567
00:34:27,809 --> 00:34:30,359
correspondent Rene Marsh joins
me now. Renee, I have to say

568
00:34:30,359 --> 00:34:31,559
this sounds rather terrifying.

569
00:34:31,890 --> 00:34:35,700
It certainly does. I mean,
report here and it's a whole 56

570
00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:39,990
pages long. It's by the GAO and
essentially what they are saying

571
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:43,200
is there is a serious
cybersecurity concern that the

572
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,040
FAA really needs to address. One
of the vulnerabilities that they

573
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,700
point out here are the ultra
modern aircraft, we're talking

574
00:34:50,700 --> 00:34:54,060
about aircrafts that are highly
automated, and the issue that

575
00:34:54,060 --> 00:34:57,270
they find here is that someone
with just a laptop could

576
00:34:57,270 --> 00:35:02,220
possibly hack the aircraft.
asked from either on board or on

577
00:35:02,220 --> 00:35:06,990
the ground. Again, all you would
need is a laptop and a Wi Fi

578
00:35:06,990 --> 00:35:07,800
Connect. Okay.

579
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:12,810
I have to say I failed to I saw
this clip I failed for some

580
00:35:12,810 --> 00:35:16,320
reason failed to grab it. I
think I didn't. I didn't

581
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,070
transfer this is a great
bullcrap clip.

582
00:35:20,430 --> 00:35:25,200
Yes. And I. So I pulled up the
report, the 56 rule, 56 pages,

583
00:35:25,830 --> 00:35:30,000
and what so you'll hear this
this story has now become a

584
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,390
meme. With a Wi Fi connection
and a laptop, you can crash the

585
00:35:33,390 --> 00:35:37,320
airplane. And I read all 56
pages the report by the way,

586
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:43,140
it's titled FAA. So the air
traffic control FAA needs a more

587
00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:46,260
comprehensive approach to
address cybersecurity as agency

588
00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:51,120
transitions to next gen. M in
the on the first page this is

589
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,220
all these people read the first
page, there is one paragraph

590
00:35:56,250 --> 00:35:59,970
that says that this is what her
entire what the entire story is

591
00:35:59,970 --> 00:36:02,130
based on is just one paragraph
from report that is about

592
00:36:02,130 --> 00:36:05,460
something completely different.
Modern aircraft are increasingly

593
00:36:05,460 --> 00:36:08,880
connected to the internet. This
interconnectedness can

594
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,270
potentially provide unauthorized
remote access to aircraft

595
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:15,510
avionics systems potentially, as
part of the aircraft

596
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:18,780
certification process. FAA is
Office of Safety currently

597
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:22,020
certifies new interconnected
systems through rules for

598
00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:25,260
specific aircraft and started
reviewing rules for certifying

599
00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:30,690
the cybersecurity of all new
aircraft systems. That is pretty

600
00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:35,700
much all they say about the so
called Hacking, because this

601
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:41,280
entire report is about the next
gen aviation system. Let me play

602
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,710
a little bit more of her
bullcrap report as you're

603
00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:46,230
supposed to be really afraid of
flying? And then I'll tell you

604
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:49,020
what's really in the report and
why you should be very afraid of

605
00:36:49,020 --> 00:36:49,440
flying.

606
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,960
No, it's a little
counterintuitive. What about the

607
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,780
older planes? Are they as
vulnerable?

608
00:36:55,020 --> 00:36:57,630
Well, when we talk about the
more modern planes, they are

609
00:36:57,630 --> 00:37:00,660
more connected to the internet.
So it makes them a lot more

610
00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:04,380
vulnerable to Facebook, like
cybersecurity experts as well as

611
00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:07,500
aviation experts. And these
people essentially told them

612
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:11,610
that when you have such highly
automated systems on an aircraft

613
00:37:11,610 --> 00:37:15,180
connected to the internet, it's
like a flying router. No, no,

614
00:37:15,540 --> 00:37:17,220
you know, hackers can get stuff,

615
00:37:17,340 --> 00:37:21,180
I have that title, title, show
title flying router, lying, or

616
00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:24,840
it's like a flying router,
everybody. This is this is

617
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,570
propaganda that is so messed

618
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,560
up into your personal computer.
So if an aircraft is made up of

619
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,890
nothing, but computers, it's
just going to make it that much

620
00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:39,570
more vulnerable. Anything from
getting around the firewall to

621
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,750
possibly if you're on board,
some of these modern aircraft

622
00:37:42,750 --> 00:37:46,920
and you have a USB plugin, you
may even be able to get access

623
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:47,460
that way.

624
00:37:49,050 --> 00:37:54,780
Or USB plugin, so let's just
let's all plug in my USB, and

625
00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:57,600
then use my flying router. Fine
tap into

626
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,120
the flying right. So what
they're saying is because you

627
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,590
have an internet system, which
is you know, operated by, what

628
00:38:04,590 --> 00:38:08,400
is it go go in a Go Go internet
or whatever these things are

629
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,180
called that that somehow is
connected to the avionics

630
00:38:12,180 --> 00:38:15,300
computers, which means you can
get it you can breach some

631
00:38:15,330 --> 00:38:18,180
magical firewall because of
course, the avionics are

632
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:21,780
connected to the internet. Of
course they are. Yeah, makes

633
00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:26,010
nothing but sense. Currently,
no, they're not. And this way

634
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,520
you can get in you can hack in
and then you can crash the plane

635
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,570
or do whatever you want.

636
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:37,050
This is an extension of the auto
mobiel hack. Yeah. Oh, it's yes.

637
00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:41,250
Oh, same bogus over the car you
stopped, hit the brakes remotely

638
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,690
on your laptop somehow.

639
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,740
Continue with the report. And
then I want to look at this,

640
00:38:46,830 --> 00:38:48,570
this actual document what

641
00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:52,260
makes the Fed so sure that a
hacker could could compromise an

642
00:38:52,260 --> 00:38:56,100
aircraft system on the ground?
Or on board? What are they

643
00:38:56,190 --> 00:38:57,930
basing their analysis on?

644
00:38:58,020 --> 00:39:01,830
Well, I guess they are saying
that they are talking to they're

645
00:39:01,830 --> 00:39:05,100
talking to aviation experts.
They're talking to cybersecurity

646
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:08,880
experts. However, they made very
clear that they haven't done any

647
00:39:08,910 --> 00:39:12,990
actual testing or mock up of
these scenarios. Now, here's

648
00:39:12,990 --> 00:39:16,290
what these experts say could
essentially happen using a

649
00:39:16,290 --> 00:39:20,790
laptop, someone could take
control of an aircraft, they

650
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:24,750
could put a virus onto the
aircraft computer systems. They

651
00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:29,040
can even jeopardize the flight
by taking control of the planes

652
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,100
computers and lastly, they say
they could take over the warning

653
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:35,730
systems and the navigational
systems. These systems are

654
00:39:35,730 --> 00:39:36,750
extremely critical.

655
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,470
Alright, let's talk about this
for a moment because the experts

656
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,590
who are not named by the way in
the report, they are saying

657
00:39:46,590 --> 00:39:49,260
something completely different
because I've highlighted a

658
00:39:49,260 --> 00:39:51,210
couple of things in this report.
I just want to run through them

659
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:54,330
real quick. You can find them on
the show notes. 713 dot no

660
00:39:54,330 --> 00:39:59,520
agenda notes.com. This is about
the next generation air

661
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,010
transport tation system next
gen, which we know they've been

662
00:40:02,010 --> 00:40:05,430
trying to implement this and get
this going for a long time. And

663
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:10,590
the idea behind next gen is, and
we already talked about this on

664
00:40:10,590 --> 00:40:14,790
a previous show, now, we have a
DSB. So aircraft are

665
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:17,430
transmitted, the ones that are
outfitted with with this type of

666
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:21,180
transponder, which used to just
give a number of numerical code

667
00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:25,650
and a identifier which aircraft
they are. Now there's a lot more

668
00:40:25,650 --> 00:40:31,770
data coming out. And the concept
is to have these all aircraft

669
00:40:31,770 --> 00:40:34,080
talking to each other and
including all the ground

670
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,640
systems. And then in that will
indeed be hooked into avionics,

671
00:40:38,850 --> 00:40:43,800
the system. So that you you have
less likelihood of not less

672
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,920
likelihood of air mid air
collisions, which are very, very

673
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,390
rare. But really, it's to make
the transport system more

674
00:40:51,390 --> 00:40:55,530
efficient. So because computers
are controlling things, air

675
00:40:55,530 --> 00:40:59,400
quotes I'm doing hear that you
can get closer to each other

676
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,130
because you'll know the exact
distances and there will be some

677
00:41:02,130 --> 00:41:06,060
control on the ground. Now, what
happened with this report, is

678
00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:10,080
they talk about the protocol for
the next generation system will

679
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:15,540
be Internet Protocol, which is
not the same as being connected

680
00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:18,750
to the internet. We have to be
very, very clear about this.

681
00:41:20,370 --> 00:41:23,970
This was requested by Congress
and cyber here's what they say

682
00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:26,250
in the report. Cyber based
threats to Federal Information

683
00:41:26,250 --> 00:41:28,800
Systems are evolving and
growing. These threats can come

684
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,380
from many sources, including
criminals and other adversarial

685
00:41:31,380 --> 00:41:34,140
groups, foreign nations
terrorists and insiders. By the

686
00:41:34,140 --> 00:41:35,940
way, if you got an insider,
you're screwed no matter what.

687
00:41:36,210 --> 00:41:38,610
Further the growing intercut
interconnectivity among

688
00:41:38,610 --> 00:41:41,850
Information Systems presents
increasing opportunities for

689
00:41:41,850 --> 00:41:46,530
cyber attacks. Next Gen
increases reliance on integrated

690
00:41:46,530 --> 00:41:49,410
information systems and
distributed distribution of

691
00:41:49,410 --> 00:41:51,930
information, digital
communication methods and Global

692
00:41:51,930 --> 00:41:55,710
Positioning Systems Technology,
they may put the ATC system at

693
00:41:55,710 --> 00:42:00,360
greater risk for intentional or
unintentional information,

694
00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:06,120
system failures and breaches.
Correct. But this has nothing to

695
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,540
do with you hacking through
you're connected to the bio, you

696
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:14,250
can't even begin barely even get
100 kilobits of bandwidth on

697
00:42:14,250 --> 00:42:16,590
most of these things. But
somehow you're going to be able

698
00:42:16,590 --> 00:42:19,770
to breach this network, which
is, as far as I know, not

699
00:42:19,770 --> 00:42:23,730
connected to any of the other
avionics. But when the media

700
00:42:23,730 --> 00:42:27,180
when the press read Internet
Protocol, ah, well, of course,

701
00:42:27,180 --> 00:42:29,730
it's connected to the internet,
and therefore, it's going to be

702
00:42:29,730 --> 00:42:33,570
a big problem this report is
worth viewing. Because here's

703
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,740
here's Yes.

704
00:42:35,009 --> 00:42:38,189
This to me is a classic example
of reporters who don't know

705
00:42:38,189 --> 00:42:42,089
anything. No, not at all. It's
got nothing to wear. I mean, it

706
00:42:42,089 --> 00:42:43,859
has obviously something to do
with the internet because the

707
00:42:43,859 --> 00:42:47,219
Internet uses it. But it is a
protocol. It is not a

708
00:42:47,219 --> 00:42:51,719
connectivity. Yes. I mean, you
can I mean, excuse me, private

709
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,709
networks for IP telephony, for
example. Many of them are

710
00:42:55,709 --> 00:43:02,069
private. I mean, yes, we have an
IP network that is what it is

711
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:06,419
it's a network that's based on
IP Internet protocol but it's

712
00:43:06,419 --> 00:43:10,559
not it's not it's not hooked to
the internet itself. Allow me to

713
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:13,739
raise the a lot of phone calls
today are made with IP

714
00:43:13,769 --> 00:43:14,699
telephony. So here's

715
00:43:14,730 --> 00:43:16,980
here's the actual language.
According to the FAA, the shift

716
00:43:16,980 --> 00:43:19,800
to next gen technologies will
require FAA to replace this

717
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,700
proprietary, relatively isolated
ATC computer systems with

718
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:26,760
information systems that
interoperate and share data

719
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,760
through FAA operations and those
of its aviation partners, it

720
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,900
will use IP networking
technologies. It will also

721
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:36,870
employ digital and internet
based computer networking

722
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:40,650
technologies, exposing the air
traffic control system to new

723
00:43:40,650 --> 00:43:45,120
cybersecurity risks. So while
and by the way, this what's

724
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,550
going to be connected is
surveillance and broadcast

725
00:43:47,550 --> 00:43:50,220
services, collaborative air
traffic management, common

726
00:43:50,220 --> 00:43:52,680
support services, which like
weather data, data,

727
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,860
communications, voice
communication system wide

728
00:43:55,860 --> 00:44:00,570
information management, all
things that can I think can be

729
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:06,630
relatively safe on the aircraft
itself. However, this is the

730
00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:11,970
biggest mistake that is going to
be made in aviation history.

731
00:44:12,930 --> 00:44:18,360
Because you do not want
computers making any decisions

732
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:23,310
about what's going on. You want
a level headed experienced

733
00:44:23,310 --> 00:44:29,310
person in the cockpit doing what
is safe and what is has been

734
00:44:29,310 --> 00:44:33,810
proven over a centuries well,
not centuries, but as a century

735
00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:40,140
of flight. Yeah. powered flight
view want professionals running

736
00:44:40,140 --> 00:44:46,350
this the opportunity for oh,
let's use the word glitches is

737
00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:51,480
so vast that the computers don't
need to be hacked for people to

738
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,410
die. These things the assault
all software is crap. It's

739
00:44:55,410 --> 00:44:59,190
always full of bugs. Every every
computer program has bugs. It'll

740
00:44:59,190 --> 00:45:02,010
take decades. AIDS before
everything is fleshed out, and

741
00:45:02,010 --> 00:45:07,110
people will die, they will die.
This is the worst idea ever now

742
00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:10,470
to have more information. Yeah,
I'm all for it, but to have

743
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:14,460
systems that are going to
respond to the information, but

744
00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:16,920
I believe Airbus will be the
first to do it, because they

745
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,070
have all these, they really have
the fly by wire system, I

746
00:45:20,070 --> 00:45:23,670
believe is a huge mistake. And
I'm calling it right now, this

747
00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:26,910
tears will come, this will end
very, very poorly. And there's a

748
00:45:26,910 --> 00:45:29,310
lot of good graphs in this
report. A lot of good

749
00:45:29,340 --> 00:45:32,310
illustrations that show you a
show you exactly how it's

750
00:45:32,310 --> 00:45:34,800
supposed to work, and how
aircraft will be talking to each

751
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,780
other. And oh, we can get a
little closer to each other.

752
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:39,510
Because of separation is not a
problem that computers are

753
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:42,180
taking care of it, the
unintended consequences of

754
00:45:42,180 --> 00:45:47,040
technology will kill people.
This is a very dumb idea. Not a

755
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,450
dumb idea to have information
around

756
00:45:48,450 --> 00:45:51,510
it. Because the whole idea of
technology, when it when you

757
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:55,830
really take a look at it closely
is to eliminate jobs. Yes,

758
00:45:56,070 --> 00:45:58,980
eliminate people from from
employment, and then don't

759
00:45:58,980 --> 00:46:02,910
really do anything about I don't
mean that I can see I remember

760
00:46:02,910 --> 00:46:07,500
when I was a kid. This is it was
like the sixth, fifth or sixth

761
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:11,790
grade or something. And I
remember or maybe earlier. And I

762
00:46:11,790 --> 00:46:13,920
remember the teachers talking
about the great future where

763
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,830
everything's going to be run by
robots, and they're good, people

764
00:46:16,830 --> 00:46:19,110
aren't going to have to do any
work. Because who the hell wants

765
00:46:19,110 --> 00:46:21,660
to work on an assembly line is
the worst job in the world. I

766
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:24,360
have done that, by the way. And
it is not a great job, but it

767
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,360
pays well. But they don't want
people on the assembly line.

768
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,240
They will because it's a
demeaning job and hell with it,

769
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:32,550
let's get them off the assembly
line, let the robots do

770
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:37,230
everything. And then the
question remained, where do the

771
00:46:37,230 --> 00:46:41,070
people that were eliminated from
these jobs actually get money to

772
00:46:41,070 --> 00:46:44,280
survive, and it was assumed in
some way even that was never

773
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,060
said. So that would be in some
socialist utopia, where if you

774
00:46:48,060 --> 00:46:51,030
got eliminated from the
assembly, the assembly line job,

775
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:54,120
the robot would share whatever
it should have been, you know,

776
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,240
if it's being paid to with you,
someone doesn't have to work

777
00:46:57,240 --> 00:47:01,020
anymore. But in fact, as this
has progressed, the money just

778
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:05,130
goes to the CEO, haha. And so we
have this huge problem that

779
00:47:05,130 --> 00:47:08,460
nobody wants to address. And it
just continues and that's

780
00:47:08,460 --> 00:47:10,800
exactly what you're describing
here. Now we're gonna get rid of

781
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,990
some more highly skilled people,

782
00:47:13,140 --> 00:47:15,810
air traffic controllers are
highly skilled as well, they're

783
00:47:15,810 --> 00:47:17,310
also going to be a little takers
at

784
00:47:17,310 --> 00:47:20,490
the bridge, until they can
somehow eliminate toll takers at

785
00:47:20,490 --> 00:47:24,720
the bridge with a card flash or,
or a bump of the of the iWatch

786
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,540
or something. I mean, there's,
the whole goal is to have so

787
00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:30,630
nobody has a job. And there's no
jobs for anybody, one of

788
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:37,500
the most important functions of
ATC and pilots is weather. If

789
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:42,030
you're going to allow a weather
system to transmit data to tell

790
00:47:42,030 --> 00:47:45,930
an aircraft what to do, is
you're going to die eventually,

791
00:47:46,290 --> 00:47:49,290
because weather is very
different when you're up there

792
00:47:49,290 --> 00:47:53,160
and in it. And it's not just
some, some computer models that

793
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,920
are looking at what might happen
pilots all the time are talking

794
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,920
about to other pilots, here's
what's going on to talk to ATC,

795
00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:02,520
when when you're near an
airfield, you're going to get

796
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,430
continuous updates about what's
really going on, which is not

797
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:09,660
going to be even though aviation
terminal area forecasts or TAFs

798
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:13,170
are very good because they're
comprised from pilots flying

799
00:48:13,170 --> 00:48:17,340
around an airport and reporting
information back and ATC then

800
00:48:17,340 --> 00:48:19,530
updates that and so you can get
a pretty good idea of what's

801
00:48:19,530 --> 00:48:23,460
going on that particular hour,
then you have extended forecast,

802
00:48:23,460 --> 00:48:25,920
but you really want to know what
happened just a minute ago and

803
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,890
what is expected to happen in
the next hour. And that's pretty

804
00:48:28,890 --> 00:48:32,160
doable at that close range. But
the decisions are going to be

805
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,210
made which is it's going to mess
it up. And while there is of

806
00:48:36,210 --> 00:48:42,240
course, reason for concern, to
throw this onto cyber is only

807
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:47,160
promoting the bullcrap industry
that is now growing around us.

808
00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:51,060
In the Hague right now. The big
cybersecurity Summit is taking

809
00:48:51,060 --> 00:48:54,090
place. John, this is so
coincidental this is happening.

810
00:48:55,260 --> 00:49:00,120
This is who expected that and
let me read from the dock

811
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,820
because people are going crazy
in the Netherlands over over.

812
00:49:02,850 --> 00:49:07,950
There's everyone's armed guards
walking around and do because of

813
00:49:07,950 --> 00:49:10,680
this. What is it called the
Global cyberspace conference?

814
00:49:11,250 --> 00:49:15,840
The Hague security Delta. Betcha
Richard Clarke is there Oh,

815
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,230
they're all there and The Hague
is almost in lockdown because of

816
00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:24,120
let me read from their website.
After the Afghanistan conference

817
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,490
and Nuclear Security Summit, the
city of The Hague will host yet

818
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,860
another World Summit. On 16th
and 17th April 2015, ministers

819
00:49:31,860 --> 00:49:34,680
from many countries will meet at
the World Forum to talk about

820
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,340
cyberspace and cybersecurity.
Around 1300 participants are

821
00:49:38,340 --> 00:49:40,680
expected. One of the main
reasons behind the choice for

822
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,560
the Hague is strong presence of
cybersecurity organizations.

823
00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:48,480
Aha, yes. Yeah. So here it is
subsequent to London 2011,

824
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,050
Budapest 212. And Seoul 2013.
The Netherlands will organize

825
00:49:52,050 --> 00:49:56,190
the fourth edition of the global
cyberspace conference in The

826
00:49:56,190 --> 00:49:59,130
Hague cyberspace unlocks
enormous potential gains in

827
00:49:59,130 --> 00:50:02,460
wealth and welfare. are in an
even more connected society. In

828
00:50:02,460 --> 00:50:04,650
order to be able to continue to
benefit from the internet, it is

829
00:50:04,650 --> 00:50:07,980
important to ensure safe ways to
do business protect people from

830
00:50:07,980 --> 00:50:10,740
threats to their privacy and
from crime related activities

831
00:50:10,830 --> 00:50:14,190
and to promote international
stability in the cyber domain.

832
00:50:14,550 --> 00:50:18,510
We are facing challenges and
dilemmas in within the way we

833
00:50:18,510 --> 00:50:22,980
secure these goals. Then check
this out side events of the

834
00:50:22,980 --> 00:50:26,490
global Cyber Conference
cyberspace conference. Connected

835
00:50:26,490 --> 00:50:28,440
to the high level political
conference, the National

836
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,950
Cybersecurity Center organizes
the one conference specifically

837
00:50:31,950 --> 00:50:34,890
aimed at cybersecurity
professionals. This is on the

838
00:50:34,890 --> 00:50:38,100
13th, the 14th of April, during
the week, several side events

839
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:43,980
powered by H S. D, be powered by
hS D, Mo, whatever that is, will

840
00:50:43,980 --> 00:50:47,880
be organized as well, first of
all, an innovation room where

841
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,670
innovative cybersecurity
technologies and their possible

842
00:50:50,670 --> 00:50:53,820
active applications are shown
will be hosted on the on the

843
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:57,300
campus on top of this, a
hackathon. And an accelerator

844
00:50:57,300 --> 00:51:00,480
session between entrepreneurs
and investors will be organized.

845
00:51:01,110 --> 00:51:04,650
This is a business people, this
is a business of scaring you.

846
00:51:04,890 --> 00:51:09,720
And quite frankly, the more of
these systems we have to protect

847
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:13,920
you, the more likely we're going
to die from them. This is bad.

848
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:19,200
This is very this is very, very
bad. I can't say it enough.

849
00:51:19,830 --> 00:51:24,810
Please read my friend Theo's
document in the show notes. You

850
00:51:24,810 --> 00:51:28,350
know Theo, right? Your buddy.
Yeah, for you. Okay, never

851
00:51:28,350 --> 00:51:30,450
talk to him. You don't even know
who he is. And he wouldn't give

852
00:51:30,450 --> 00:51:31,920
you the time of day? No, well,
he's

853
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,880
in jail. So it's hard isn't Max
super dismayed about not an easy

854
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,060
way. But I was reading it last
night. And he talks about the

855
00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:42,750
power process of human beings,
where we have three steps one is

856
00:51:42,750 --> 00:51:46,140
we need to make sure we have
food. And you know, there's

857
00:51:46,140 --> 00:51:49,380
there's the you have to do it
just to survive, eat food,

858
00:51:49,380 --> 00:51:51,900
shelter, some of these main
things. And then there's the

859
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,450
second step, which is stuff you
want to accomplish that is

860
00:51:54,450 --> 00:51:57,150
really, really hard. And then
there's the third step is to

861
00:51:57,150 --> 00:52:03,150
just give up. And people human
beings need challenge. If they

862
00:52:03,150 --> 00:52:06,540
don't have challenge, I'm just
I'm paraphrasing from his paper,

863
00:52:06,690 --> 00:52:09,600
if they don't have a challenge,
they kind of resort to one and

864
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,050
two. Now food and shelter.
That's easy these days, you

865
00:52:13,050 --> 00:52:16,050
know, even if you have no job,
you pretty much can get food and

866
00:52:16,050 --> 00:52:20,430
shelter. So you don't really
have to go out and hunt. Number

867
00:52:20,430 --> 00:52:22,890
two, where things are really
hard, we just give up on that.

868
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,430
Now, if you don't have to work
hard for anything, you then

869
00:52:26,430 --> 00:52:31,500
subsequently fall into frivolous
activities to keep keep your

870
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:37,230
brain busy. Well guess what that
is entertainment. Facebook, a

871
00:52:37,230 --> 00:52:41,820
book science is actually a
frivolous activity. According to

872
00:52:41,820 --> 00:52:46,800
a Theo scientists, you know,
they study Oh, how about global

873
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,020
warming, they want to be part of
the group, they want to have the

874
00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:51,180
group think they want to be
winners, they want to be

875
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:54,930
accepted. So they only focus is
really a frivolous activity in a

876
00:52:54,930 --> 00:52:58,230
way for these individual human
beings. And we're just going to

877
00:52:58,230 --> 00:53:02,700
melt into little puddles of
flesh that are unimportant

878
00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:04,500
because everything will take
over we won't have to do

879
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:08,700
anything and we're just going to
be you know, what useless eaters

880
00:53:09,870 --> 00:53:15,300
in that regard. that regard?
Yeah, there right. So this is

881
00:53:15,450 --> 00:53:15,720
this,

882
00:53:15,930 --> 00:53:18,960
which means you can just wipe
out everybody and get the number

883
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,730
down to the idealist. Yeah,

884
00:53:20,730 --> 00:53:21,870
500 500

885
00:53:23,490 --> 00:53:26,250
doesn't have enough. I don't
know how you did would,

886
00:53:27,209 --> 00:53:30,269
it's gonna be easy, planes are
gonna be falling out of the sky.

887
00:53:31,319 --> 00:53:33,239
Cars are gonna be crashed into
each other.

888
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:37,530
There's one scene in the movie
Idiocracy where there was only

889
00:53:37,830 --> 00:53:40,410
the looks out the window. It's
very sure I think they could

890
00:53:40,410 --> 00:53:43,800
have let the scene go on longer,
but they looks out the window

891
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,440
and he sees the dystopia that's
out there a building that's

892
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,080
about to fall or falls over
against another building.

893
00:53:49,230 --> 00:53:52,110
There's a freeway that just fell
apart and there's an and and

894
00:53:52,110 --> 00:53:54,150
cars are still on it. And
they're driving off the end and

895
00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:57,840
making a pile of cars. Yeah, and
it's just one thing after

896
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,410
another and you can just see
that is like the future some

897
00:54:01,410 --> 00:54:03,570
something. Yeah. Yeah.

898
00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:07,590
I had a lot of fun. I just I
spent 45 minutes last night just

899
00:54:07,590 --> 00:54:09,930
rereading oh my god this is this
is actually happening and

900
00:54:09,930 --> 00:54:14,400
Facebook is such by the way
Facebook now officially can

901
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,700
cause depression the report in
the got that in the show notes.

902
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,300
And the reason why is according
to this study, but the

903
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:25,200
paraphrasing because you're
looking at everybody's highlight

904
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,620
reel, viewed become depressed
about your own shitty life.

905
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:31,590
Yeah, and of course this is not
new, though. This is an old

906
00:54:31,590 --> 00:54:33,030
study. Yes, I heard this

907
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:37,170
a year ago. Yeah, that's about
it. But it's popped up again on

908
00:54:37,170 --> 00:54:37,680
the radar. I've

909
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,370
always pointed out to me me who
is a big Facebook user. Yeah,

910
00:54:41,370 --> 00:54:41,700
she's

911
00:54:41,730 --> 00:54:44,970
turning into a she's gonna melt
into a puddle of flesh if she

912
00:54:44,970 --> 00:54:45,750
doesn't watch it.

913
00:54:46,169 --> 00:54:47,639
Yeah, and Shaw.

914
00:54:50,070 --> 00:54:53,820
It's already started apparently.
Yeah. You can't even talk

915
00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:54,420
straight to you.

916
00:54:55,350 --> 00:55:01,470
Everybody Facebook, Facebook. My
old buddy highschool did we both

917
00:55:01,470 --> 00:55:05,100
my old eighth grade friends?
Were there up to you? How are

918
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:08,670
they doing? I don't care. Yeah,
you're doing fine.

919
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,490
Anyway, with all this cyber
stuff going on, I'm surprised

920
00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:19,320
that NORAD can track Santa Claus
but can't seem to track a gyro

921
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,350
and auto gyro is very, very,
very disturbing to me. It's

922
00:55:22,350 --> 00:55:24,840
coming in low. I don't think
anything could catch that horse.

923
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:25,140
Not

924
00:55:25,170 --> 00:55:27,510
Of course not. This is barely a
blip on the radar. This guy was

925
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:30,930
skimming the trees. And there's
no but we can't tell anybody

926
00:55:30,930 --> 00:55:34,080
that we need more cyber, more
Cyber Police. That's that's what

927
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,610
we need more of that. This will
not end well. But those of you

928
00:55:38,610 --> 00:55:41,190
listening to the best podcast in
the universe are forewarned and

929
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:42,570
you can take appropriate
measures.

930
00:55:43,860 --> 00:55:47,100
Right, which is get off
Facebook. And with that,

931
00:55:47,490 --> 00:55:49,500
I'd like to thank you for your
courage and say in the morning

932
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:53,370
to you John. See where it stands
for cyber divorce.

933
00:55:53,370 --> 00:55:56,940
Chuck. Well, good morning to
you, Adam. Korean demonios ships

934
00:55:56,940 --> 00:55:59,340
at sea boots on the ground feet
in the air subs in the water and

935
00:55:59,340 --> 00:56:01,170
all the days and nights out
there.

936
00:56:01,529 --> 00:56:04,139
In the morning to the chat room.
No agenda stream.com. Good to

937
00:56:04,139 --> 00:56:07,499
have you guys on board in the
morning to Sir David Foley in

938
00:56:07,499 --> 00:56:12,599
the morning to Phil Foley. My
host here and in the morning to

939
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:19,349
our artists 21. Bulb. Posted on
no agenda, art generator.com for

940
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:23,489
the previous episode 712 that
we're getting there were some

941
00:56:23,489 --> 00:56:27,149
pretty good, pretty good
submissions. Then this was the

942
00:56:27,179 --> 00:56:31,919
Caillat episode, and it was the
Trojan horse with clippity clop

943
00:56:31,919 --> 00:56:35,459
Hillary Clinton popping out of
it which even though she had not

944
00:56:35,459 --> 00:56:38,039
announced when we would do oh
right at the end of our show, I

945
00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:42,089
guess she had to wait. They
always do this to us. They had

946
00:56:42,089 --> 00:56:44,639
to wait until the Hey, it's the
show is no agenda over. Alright,

947
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:44,849
let's

948
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,620
let's do it now in the

949
00:56:46,620 --> 00:56:49,560
news. Bring the news now.

950
00:56:49,620 --> 00:56:52,440
I like the way she's floating
around in the stupid van.

951
00:56:52,530 --> 00:56:54,480
Yeah, the Scooby Doo van is
where they're calling it.

952
00:56:54,690 --> 00:56:57,150
Well, that's what she decided to
call. Oh, well, there you go.

953
00:56:57,180 --> 00:57:00,120
And it's just all published. I
mean, it's she's getting more

954
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,630
publicity doing nothing. Yeah,
because the media is just here's

955
00:57:03,630 --> 00:57:06,240
love this woman. Whatever I
promised

956
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:09,480
myself, I try not to talk about
her. You know what, by the way,

957
00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:14,550
Facebook is now unusable.
Facebook what is now

958
00:57:14,580 --> 00:57:16,890
unusable. It's always been
unusable.

959
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,570
But it's so bad because all it
is is it Hillary's a dick. Ted

960
00:57:21,570 --> 00:57:26,610
Cruz is a dick. Everybody's a
dick. No, screw the gays, screw

961
00:57:26,610 --> 00:57:31,140
the Christians. Everyone's
everybody and this is

962
00:57:31,410 --> 00:57:34,320
glad to see it deteriorate like
that. Maybe get some people to

963
00:57:34,980 --> 00:57:35,640
wake up?

964
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:40,470
Well, and I will say this, I
will say this justice once and I

965
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:46,860
won't say it again. I fully
support Hillary Clinton becoming

966
00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:49,620
the next President of the United
States. Not only is she uniquely

967
00:57:49,620 --> 00:57:55,020
qualified to run the Empire, but
she is unwavering in her

968
00:57:55,260 --> 00:57:59,610
apocalyptic goals. And I'm
thinking she just might create

969
00:57:59,610 --> 00:58:02,250
the tipping point that finally
spurs human resources of the

970
00:58:02,250 --> 00:58:07,650
world to get their crap together
and fight because this is melt

971
00:58:07,650 --> 00:58:11,160
down time with this lady. So I'm
all in on her.

972
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:14,430
Well, I don't know I think they
said the same thing when I'm not

973
00:58:14,430 --> 00:58:18,990
gonna say it. So the Germans
probably thought the same way at

974
00:58:18,990 --> 00:58:22,950
some point in their history.
Well, the guy and you know this

975
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:25,500
will take care of it everybody
Oh, you know the mark when he

976
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:27,690
goes out this guy's not gonna
last but

977
00:58:27,690 --> 00:58:32,580
isn't that exactly what I just
said? No. Oh, there were no

978
00:58:32,580 --> 00:58:36,330
apocalyptic goals of the guy
that the Germans talking about

979
00:58:36,330 --> 00:58:41,430
Hitler. Yes. Yes, it was Time
Magazine's Man of the Year. I

980
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:45,690
think twice Yeah. Yeah. Which
goes

981
00:58:45,690 --> 00:58:48,870
to show you some things well,
let's thank a few executive

982
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:51,540
producers very few as a matter
of fact we have one as executive

983
00:58:51,540 --> 00:58:53,520
producer and to associate so
we're not going to be here too

984
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:58,440
long. Robert Smiley in Holland
Pennsylvania. 314 15 is one at

985
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:03,150
some fleeter fest love can you
do a smiley and he loves the

986
00:59:03,150 --> 00:59:05,490
recent deconstructions and he
needs a job karma

987
00:59:06,810 --> 00:59:10,920
Okay, well I'm a little a little
slow on the on the draw here

988
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:11,760
hold on one second

989
00:59:16,860 --> 00:59:23,430
Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm not
doing very well here. Am I Why

990
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:24,690
can I not find this now?

991
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,470
There goes my new system up.
I'll give him a karma. Look for

992
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:36,480
the jobs. I don't know why I
can't find this. This is very

993
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,660
strange. You've got karma.

994
00:59:41,730 --> 00:59:49,320
Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote
for jobs. No big deal.

995
00:59:49,350 --> 00:59:50,310
Sorry about that. Yeah,

996
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,650
I'm here. Now we dropped down
Associate Executive Producer

997
00:59:52,650 --> 00:59:57,090
with Patrick Hamilton in
Atlanta, Georgia. 23456. ITM Jed

998
00:59:57,090 --> 01:00:00,270
gents, with the excellent
analysis of latest SP Actually,

999
01:00:00,270 --> 01:00:03,840
Mr. Devore acts eloquent and
undeniable analysis of the

1000
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:10,050
douchebag bicyclist throughout
the US a couple of weeks back. I

1001
01:00:10,050 --> 01:00:12,960
can tell you some more stories.
I'm glad someone reminded me.

1002
01:00:13,620 --> 01:00:16,860
And this Thursday show falling
on my birthday, I feel inclined

1003
01:00:16,860 --> 01:00:20,280
to throw a little value back for
the hours of excellent media

1004
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,090
analysis and comedy. Yes, if you
have the time I like to hear the

1005
01:00:24,090 --> 01:00:27,870
shapeshifting Jews song and
could always use a heaping

1006
01:00:27,870 --> 01:00:31,650
helping of karma PS How does one
go about getting the shape

1007
01:00:31,650 --> 01:00:34,530
shifting Jews song to use as a
ringtone?

1008
01:00:34,590 --> 01:00:37,230
Well, why don't you just clip it
up there or just shoot me an

1009
01:00:37,230 --> 01:00:38,280
email happy to help out?

1010
01:00:50,610 --> 01:01:02,610
shapeshifting Jews shapes and
illustration. Shapes and

1011
01:01:07,650 --> 01:01:09,330
shapes. Amen.

1012
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:16,410
You've got karma after we just
pretty much compared to Hillary

1013
01:01:16,410 --> 01:01:20,190
Clinton to Hitler. I think that
song is really great. And anyone

1014
01:01:20,190 --> 01:01:21,270
who doesn't know the history,

1015
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,660
you're the one you brought it
up. And so I couldn't the first

1016
01:01:24,660 --> 01:01:26,280
person that came to mind was
Hitler.

1017
01:01:26,819 --> 01:01:29,729
Yeah, but the shape then put the
shapeshifting Jews song in there

1018
01:01:29,729 --> 01:01:30,599
as a little twist.

1019
01:01:31,860 --> 01:01:36,990
Show goes up. Yeah. Exactly. Lou
graner in London, UK. We have a

1020
01:01:36,990 --> 01:01:40,740
Brit that came in over $200.
Hey, guys, the show keeps going

1021
01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:45,210
from strength to strength. Wow.
I'm sure you'll win that podcast

1022
01:01:45,210 --> 01:01:54,090
award. Denied. Okay, wrong. I
like some all purpose karma.

1023
01:01:54,090 --> 01:01:57,300
Unfortunately, I've tripled
booked myself this weekend. Nice

1024
01:01:57,300 --> 01:02:02,040
move. I use a calendar. I set up
a cycle event this Sunday was

1025
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,610
around 400 cyclists riding at
and then this note just

1026
01:02:05,790 --> 01:02:07,650
concatenates I don't have the
rest

1027
01:02:07,650 --> 01:02:09,930
of it. I don't have it either.
But I got the karma form right

1028
01:02:09,930 --> 01:02:13,410
here. You've got karma.

1029
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,090
The Return key right in the
middle of when you're typing. It

1030
01:02:18,090 --> 01:02:20,880
just says Okay, we're done. It's
horrible. Anyway, that's it.

1031
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,780
That's all we got. These three
people unfortunately, I wish

1032
01:02:24,780 --> 01:02:27,210
would support would hold up a
little better than it than it

1033
01:02:27,210 --> 01:02:32,970
did. I do have a kind of a late
job karma thing. I promised the

1034
01:02:32,970 --> 01:02:36,150
guy. Okay. We wrote in a note
saying that he doesn't

1035
01:02:36,270 --> 01:02:41,730
understand the mechanism,
apparently. But he says. He said

1036
01:02:41,730 --> 01:02:46,170
we give we he says you and Adam,
give me more neutral view of

1037
01:02:46,170 --> 01:02:49,200
current events. And I thank you
both. I think I never realized

1038
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,590
that they use the term neutral.
We are a neutral. That's where

1039
01:02:52,590 --> 01:02:57,180
we're no agenda. We do give a
neutral view we slam both sides

1040
01:02:57,180 --> 01:03:00,000
of the arguments show the
stupidities of what people say

1041
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,270
and it's very in the middle. We
don't advocate for these

1042
01:03:03,390 --> 01:03:06,750
political political people.
Anyway, this poor guy has been a

1043
01:03:06,810 --> 01:03:10,230
subscriber and he's been a donor
and he needs job karma jobs,

1044
01:03:10,410 --> 01:03:14,580
jobs, jobs and jobs. Or jobs.

1045
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,760
And that's create dash now who
just got that karma crowd?

1046
01:03:21,420 --> 01:03:22,620
Oh, I got that email too. Good.

1047
01:03:22,650 --> 01:03:24,150
You got to know too. Yeah. Good.

1048
01:03:24,270 --> 01:03:25,350
I'm glad you do that.

1049
01:03:25,590 --> 01:03:29,160
Anyway. That's it. That's all we
got. Show.

1050
01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:32,580
That's disappointing. You know,
pretty much we're telling we're

1051
01:03:32,580 --> 01:03:36,540
actually saving your life. Here.
We are. We're telling you how to

1052
01:03:36,540 --> 01:03:43,770
stay alive during the coming.
Apocalypse. And it's real. No,

1053
01:03:43,770 --> 01:03:46,080
I'm not. You can't get me on a
cocktail with dinner. Oops,

1054
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:52,560
sorry. Wrong one. It's real.
Well, yeah. Now you make me do

1055
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:52,890
it.

1056
01:03:54,570 --> 01:03:57,210
Make you do what making you do
anything? Of

1057
01:03:57,210 --> 01:04:00,390
course, you're making me do it.
Now. Yes, you make me do these

1058
01:04:00,390 --> 01:04:04,530
things. Okay, I won't do it.
This is these credits are real.

1059
01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:09,000
These are actually your right,
they are real. And you can use

1060
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,550
them wherever credits are
accepted. Of course, if you need

1061
01:04:11,550 --> 01:04:14,340
us to vouch for the validity of
your executive or Associate

1062
01:04:14,340 --> 01:04:17,880
Executive producer credit, we're
happy to vouch for you. We do

1063
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,250
need a little bit more help than
what we're seeing today. So for

1064
01:04:20,250 --> 01:04:21,450
Sunday show, please

1065
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:26,220
do avora.org/n A obviously
everybody

1066
01:04:26,220 --> 01:04:28,950
can help us out by propagating
the formula.

1067
01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:34,110
Our formula is this. We go out
for hit people in the mouth

1068
01:04:46,530 --> 01:04:47,610
got a question for you, John.

1069
01:04:48,450 --> 01:04:49,500
I'd ask away.

1070
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:56,160
So looking at just this, I had
CNN on last night and this

1071
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,700
morning while I was prepping the
and it seems like they're now

1072
01:04:59,700 --> 01:05:04,800
full or five at least four
videos of cops killing people.

1073
01:05:06,030 --> 01:05:08,430
And it's you know, it's pretty
graphic, you know, we have

1074
01:05:08,430 --> 01:05:11,670
ending, it's trending, cops
killing people is trending. And

1075
01:05:11,670 --> 01:05:14,130
this is shown on television over
and over and over again.

1076
01:05:14,489 --> 01:05:15,749
Night. What's your favorite?

1077
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,880
I like the guy who was a deputy,
who instead of grabbing his

1078
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,390
Taser grabbed his gun and shot
the guy and killed him.

1079
01:05:24,690 --> 01:05:27,120
No, no, no, that's not a good
one.

1080
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:28,620
Then what's your what's your
favorite guy,

1081
01:05:28,620 --> 01:05:31,170
some guys walking out walking
down the street black guy in a

1082
01:05:31,170 --> 01:05:35,250
white Oh, and they drives over
him. And then there's one guy

1083
01:05:35,250 --> 01:05:38,070
following me and all of a sudden
out of the blue crossing your

1084
01:05:38,070 --> 01:05:41,610
meridian and everything else a
cop car during 60 It looked like

1085
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,640
plows into the guy targeted at

1086
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,580
him. Um, that was I liked that
one too. And it was all because

1087
01:05:47,580 --> 01:05:51,390
he had a rifle to his chin like
was going to kill himself. Oh,

1088
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:56,430
yeah, I did before. Yes, but
yes. Before skin down the

1089
01:05:56,430 --> 01:06:00,510
street. Okay, I saw the video I
saw as the guy was walking down

1090
01:06:00,510 --> 01:06:03,570
the street had a rifle in his
hand with it pointed at his

1091
01:06:03,570 --> 01:06:06,870
chin. And then the next scene
you see is where the cop car who

1092
01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:10,290
was following him is passed by
another cop car and plows into

1093
01:06:10,290 --> 01:06:10,470
him.

1094
01:06:11,070 --> 01:06:14,160
Yeah, that's the one but I don't
remember a rifle in the chin.

1095
01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:16,680
That gate came in from so far
away. How would he see it?

1096
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:19,920
I'm just telling you what I saw.
But that's irrelevant to my

1097
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:20,430
point.

1098
01:06:20,610 --> 01:06:21,360
Yes, it is.

1099
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:28,920
My point is, it's okay to show
this on TV. Every one is all. Of

1100
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,520
course, I hereby claim the
format the television format,

1101
01:06:33,180 --> 01:06:38,610
which will show it's a reality
show. We will be televising

1102
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:44,100
death sentences. There's no
reason that we can do that. Why

1103
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:47,610
would we show the victims being
killed? But we can't show people

1104
01:06:47,610 --> 01:06:49,920
who are killing people being put
to death

1105
01:06:50,070 --> 01:06:52,860
used to be very common to do
that they would have big public

1106
01:06:53,220 --> 01:06:56,490
party it would be parties would
be hundreds of maybe 1000s of

1107
01:06:56,490 --> 01:07:00,150
people watching. Yeah. heads on
their shoulders.

1108
01:07:01,620 --> 01:07:03,450
And kids are watching this on
CNN.

1109
01:07:03,930 --> 01:07:06,930
Yeah. Oh, you have to agree.
I've always thought this would

1110
01:07:06,930 --> 01:07:09,810
be a good show to watch we named
watch it they'd all bitch and

1111
01:07:09,810 --> 01:07:13,890
moan about ah, it's disgusting.
What what's wrong with our

1112
01:07:13,890 --> 01:07:17,220
civilization? Meanwhile, they
have all this crap on people

1113
01:07:17,370 --> 01:07:20,340
they have if you just look look,
think about what they show on

1114
01:07:20,340 --> 01:07:23,940
YouTube people falling on their
butt people getting kicked off a

1115
01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:27,300
horse all the stuff that goes in
it's all humility all

1116
01:07:27,330 --> 01:07:30,510
humiliation all humiliate this
guy's trying to you know, be

1117
01:07:30,510 --> 01:07:34,680
jackasses on the show. They kick
a bicycle on the top of a roof

1118
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,070
and then drive the bicycle and
getting down your break their

1119
01:07:38,070 --> 01:07:41,430
neck and entertainment. Just
fine. I guess.

1120
01:07:41,759 --> 01:07:51,959
So we need a name for the show.
Dead. Fry, or not fry? We got to

1121
01:07:51,959 --> 01:07:56,669
have something we had dead? No,
that's not nice. I don't think

1122
01:07:56,669 --> 01:07:57,539
that's compelling enough.

1123
01:07:57,570 --> 01:08:00,120
I think it should be just a
show. Well, how many people were

1124
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,060
executed? I don't do they do at
least one a week someplace in

1125
01:08:03,060 --> 01:08:03,570
the country.

1126
01:08:04,290 --> 01:08:08,430
But we can expand the format can
expand to other Saudi Arabia, we

1127
01:08:08,430 --> 01:08:12,300
can do beheadings that can but
that's not the same. It's more

1128
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:16,050
fun when it's American. And then
we keep cutting to a shot of the

1129
01:08:16,050 --> 01:08:18,510
phone on the wall. Maybe the
governor is going to call with a

1130
01:08:18,510 --> 01:08:23,250
stay of execution scary music.
Will the governor call find out

1131
01:08:23,250 --> 01:08:26,370
after these messages on the next
episode of dead?

1132
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:32,039
Now the problem is it's an half
an hour show, I would assume or

1133
01:08:32,039 --> 01:08:35,249
an hour. Now the one way you the
show would be produced is with

1134
01:08:35,249 --> 01:08:41,189
the suits get involved. I'd be a
suit. Okay, your idea? Hey, we

1135
01:08:41,189 --> 01:08:44,909
got it. We want to make it an
hour. Okay, we're gonna kill

1136
01:08:44,909 --> 01:08:48,029
some guy. And we have to make it
an hour. Okay, what are we

1137
01:08:48,089 --> 01:08:50,939
doing? In other words, you have
to start with the background.

1138
01:08:51,929 --> 01:08:54,959
Oh, yeah, I have to do all the
but you have to do package after

1139
01:08:54,959 --> 01:08:57,989
package to make it so the
audience hates this guy. Of

1140
01:08:57,989 --> 01:09:00,809
course, this would the suits
would say because you don't want

1141
01:09:00,809 --> 01:09:03,659
to have any audience sympathy
for this guy and you want to

1142
01:09:03,659 --> 01:09:07,409
actually feel good about seeing
him die. That's the way I would

1143
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,209
produce. I was super excited.
Now

1144
01:09:09,210 --> 01:09:13,200
of course, of course. And then
we'll also you know, the side

1145
01:09:13,890 --> 01:09:17,760
storyline will be oh, you know,
we're out of the route of the

1146
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,150
injectable drugs that kill
people which had true

1147
01:09:21,569 --> 01:09:23,009
at the bash firing squad.

1148
01:09:25,020 --> 01:09:27,750
firing squad thing. And then we
can have celebrities on the

1149
01:09:27,750 --> 01:09:33,540
firing squad. Him and Ted
Nugent. Hey Nuge. would do it?

1150
01:09:33,660 --> 01:09:38,070
Of course he would. He would be
great if we have a great then we

1151
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:41,850
have politicians talking about
this is a guaranteed hit. And

1152
01:09:41,850 --> 01:09:45,330
I'm claiming the format right
now. The title is dead. The and

1153
01:09:45,330 --> 01:09:47,610
if anyone tries to steal this,
we're going to sue you.

1154
01:09:49,770 --> 01:09:52,470
Yeah, yeah. You just didn't mark
it down in the show notes. It's

1155
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:55,290
our form. That would be the
show. It'd be an hour long.

1156
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,680
Because you build it. You build
a build a build. It's going to

1157
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,860
be genuine and I liked idea of
celebrities shooters or

1158
01:10:02,430 --> 01:10:04,290
witnesses or somebody even you
know,

1159
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,740
if it's not a shooting firing
squad, we could have celebrity

1160
01:10:07,740 --> 01:10:12,060
doctors like Dr. Drew could
inject him. Or Sanjay Gupta

1161
01:10:13,890 --> 01:10:14,670
celebrity, the

1162
01:10:14,670 --> 01:10:22,020
plastic surgeon they're always
looking for publicity. This is

1163
01:10:22,140 --> 01:10:27,450
actually charged them. And we'll
be on the show as a yes. Fee

1164
01:10:27,480 --> 01:10:31,170
native advertising. Yeah,
perfect. All we need is little

1165
01:10:31,170 --> 01:10:32,310
money to do a pilot.

1166
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,700
These executions, we could put
it in variety wanted

1167
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:42,390
a person, person for the show
dead.

1168
01:10:44,190 --> 01:10:47,760
Good, we probably could get some
people to do it on a spec, if

1169
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,600
they think you can't do the
fleet fake the thing at the end,

1170
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:54,570
we don't really need to have
somebody executed. For the

1171
01:10:54,570 --> 01:10:57,120
purposes of the pilot. We just
want to show people how the show

1172
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:57,600
works. You know

1173
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,290
what's great, what's really cool
about this, we will not have to

1174
01:11:01,710 --> 01:11:06,480
pay the person on death row.
Because it'll be a non speaking

1175
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:08,100
role. So they don't have to be
sag.

1176
01:11:10,020 --> 01:11:12,750
Right? They won't be they won't,
yes, they will have a non

1177
01:11:12,750 --> 01:11:13,470
speaking role.

1178
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:16,800
Everyone else will be sag out
with or after.

1179
01:11:17,460 --> 01:11:21,510
So it makes this people more
sympathetic toward the show. You

1180
01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:26,790
could have him interviewed with
and then paid to his relatives

1181
01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:30,030
who are going to suffer after he
gets killed and as a charitable

1182
01:11:30,030 --> 01:11:30,330
thing.

1183
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,030
Oh, not only that, but the
victim. We give some money to

1184
01:11:33,030 --> 01:11:33,540
the victim.

1185
01:11:33,810 --> 01:11:36,960
There's probably a murderer is
probably a murderer and they get

1186
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,080
victims dead or the victim's
family though. Which makes me

1187
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,310
Yeah, all right goes to the
victims.

1188
01:11:41,310 --> 01:11:44,520
So watching it will be the
ultimate moral self licensing.

1189
01:11:44,850 --> 01:11:46,710
Yeah, because you'll feel good.
You'll feel good that you

1190
01:11:46,710 --> 01:11:50,130
watched and help you we can even
do donate, we can do a donation

1191
01:11:50,130 --> 01:11:53,280
drive. Right on the show,
including commercials people

1192
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,730
will love it. It's so obvious
are the victims. Yeah, we of

1193
01:11:56,730 --> 01:12:01,470
course. Yes. Such an OB who
hosts the show. We need a host.

1194
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:07,710
Well, let's see who could host a
show like that. You want to

1195
01:12:07,710 --> 01:12:13,350
comic you know, like Paul like
Harvey, Steve Harvey. Drew, Cara

1196
01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:14,430
Drew, what the heck is

1197
01:12:14,940 --> 01:12:20,610
now Drew Carey now. We'll think
of somebody. I think. Yeah,

1198
01:12:20,610 --> 01:12:23,370
there's just about to say I
think Dennis Miller. Yeah, that

1199
01:12:23,370 --> 01:12:26,340
would be good. Or Ryan Seacrest
is a suggestion from the chatter

1200
01:12:26,340 --> 01:12:29,730
he'll do anything. He'll produce
it, we can hire him to produce

1201
01:12:29,730 --> 01:12:30,120
it we can,

1202
01:12:30,450 --> 01:12:33,090
produces a sure winner we will
own

1203
01:12:33,090 --> 01:12:38,550
the format then created by it
might be funny to have a super

1204
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:50,460
gay guy to host a show. That can
be I could be funny. Okay. So as

1205
01:12:50,460 --> 01:12:54,630
part of my annoyance with
Facebook, this particular clip

1206
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:59,100
from Ted Cruz came up and just
wanted to I'm not a fan of Ted

1207
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:04,560
Cruz. Although he's he's very
experienced as a politician, and

1208
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:09,540
his wife is very connected
through Goldman Sachs. He I find

1209
01:13:09,540 --> 01:13:12,930
him icky and creepy. But he said
something that a lot of people

1210
01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:15,450
are going just apeshit about.
And of course, it's about

1211
01:13:15,450 --> 01:13:18,780
religion. I guess he announced
his candidacy in a church or

1212
01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:21,690
something boo hoo, he doesn't
care about me because I don't

1213
01:13:21,690 --> 01:13:25,440
believe in God, whatever. But he
talks specifically about the

1214
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:27,990
bill of rights in the
Constitution. And I just wanted

1215
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:33,060
to, to explain what he is saying
because a lot of people are in

1216
01:13:33,060 --> 01:13:35,460
in the United States of Gitmo
nation, and certainly outside of

1217
01:13:35,460 --> 01:13:37,740
the United States do not
understand the Bill of Rights

1218
01:13:37,770 --> 01:13:38,310
when it comes

1219
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:41,490
to constitutional rights. What
matters is what the Bill of

1220
01:13:41,490 --> 01:13:44,490
Rights says, It doesn't matter
what might be popular at the

1221
01:13:44,490 --> 01:13:47,910
moment. We've seen regimes
across the face of the earth,

1222
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:52,200
come and take away people's guns
to strip away their rights to

1223
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,890
defend themselves. And sometimes
it's been very popular. And yet,

1224
01:13:56,370 --> 01:14:01,590
it is an inevitable prelude to
tearing. Our country was founded

1225
01:14:01,590 --> 01:14:04,650
on a radical proposition which
is that our rights don't come

1226
01:14:04,650 --> 01:14:08,640
from government. They come from
God. And the purpose of the

1227
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,130
Constitution Chairman Thomas
Jefferson said the Constitution

1228
01:14:11,130 --> 01:14:16,620
serves as chambers to bind the
mischief of government. And the

1229
01:14:16,620 --> 01:14:20,340
entire reason for the Second
Amendment is not for hunting.

1230
01:14:20,340 --> 01:14:22,260
It's not for target shooting.
Those are both wonderful. It's

1231
01:14:22,260 --> 01:14:24,960
great to go with your family
with your kids to go hunting, to

1232
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,060
get to go skeet shooting, but
that's not what the Second

1233
01:14:27,060 --> 01:14:30,330
Amendment is for. The second
amendment is there so that you

1234
01:14:30,330 --> 01:14:33,270
and I can protect our homes, our
families and our children in our

1235
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:37,620
lives. And it's also there as a
fundamental check on government.

1236
01:14:38,700 --> 01:14:41,850
And before I explain it just had
what a great idea when he loses.

1237
01:14:42,570 --> 01:14:47,310
He would be a fantastic host
he's got an annoying

1238
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:50,940
I don't think he's attractive
enough to do a show true.

1239
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:54,660
Just wanted to explain to people
because although Ted Cruz is

1240
01:14:54,660 --> 01:14:58,500
saying that the inalienable
rights that we have in the bill

1241
01:14:58,500 --> 01:15:02,760
of rights such as a Freedom of
speech right to bear arms, etc.

1242
01:15:02,910 --> 01:15:06,030
These are not if you read the
bill of rights and people need

1243
01:15:06,030 --> 01:15:09,420
to do this. These are not rights
given to you by the government

1244
01:15:09,420 --> 01:15:13,380
or by some agreement. These are
rights that you already have.

1245
01:15:13,410 --> 01:15:16,920
That is what the founding
document says, we already have

1246
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,050
these rights. Now, Ted Cruz
thinks that come from God,

1247
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:24,120
whatever. That's his version of
it. But the only thing that Bill

1248
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:28,350
of Rights does is restrict what
government can do and the words

1249
01:15:28,350 --> 01:15:32,580
are shall not be infringed. So
you already have the right

1250
01:15:32,580 --> 01:15:35,220
according to the Constitution,
the Bill of Rights, you have the

1251
01:15:35,220 --> 01:15:38,430
right to free speech, you have
the right to bear arms. That

1252
01:15:38,430 --> 01:15:41,880
right may not be infringed. And
people don't understand this.

1253
01:15:42,780 --> 01:15:47,220
And America I hate to do a man
on the street people are stupid,

1254
01:15:47,250 --> 01:15:51,300
they kept stupid of course by
the education system. They don't

1255
01:15:51,300 --> 01:15:53,970
understand that these are rights
that you already have as a

1256
01:15:53,970 --> 01:15:58,980
natural born person. And it
frustrates me to see what I

1257
01:15:59,580 --> 01:16:02,910
deemed to be in general
intelligent people getting this

1258
01:16:02,910 --> 01:16:07,410
wrong and and going nuts about
Ted Cruz talking about God we're

1259
01:16:07,410 --> 01:16:11,190
really the only God every
politician worships to is the

1260
01:16:11,190 --> 01:16:14,730
dollar and by the way on the
dollar it says In God we trust

1261
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,120
you know, that's a little a
little blip you might want to

1262
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,900
investigate if you do have a
problem with religion,

1263
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:26,430
well, we're gonna have a lot of
gun discussion between now and

1264
01:16:26,430 --> 01:16:29,910
the election with the both sides
taking you know, opposite views.

1265
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:34,110
And we're already starting to
see it on the kind of the shows

1266
01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:39,570
like Megan Kelly show Megan file
rivers called totally file. And

1267
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,350
I ran into a couple of clips I
want to play one of them is it

1268
01:16:43,380 --> 01:16:46,470
before we start, I want to give
some background this is called

1269
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:50,010
if you have a gun. And this is
she had a guest on who I guess

1270
01:16:50,010 --> 01:16:53,010
she brings on once in a while he
represents Fox does this much

1271
01:16:53,010 --> 01:16:55,680
better than everybody else? The
other side of the argument?

1272
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:56,640
Yeah, I agree. And,

1273
01:16:57,060 --> 01:16:59,520
and more respectful, I would say
I have to say that more

1274
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:00,300
respectful.

1275
01:17:01,500 --> 01:17:05,100
Yeah. Well, they also hope that
the guy is nuts. Yeah, whatever

1276
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:08,730
the case, this guy comes on, and
he has talking points that he

1277
01:17:08,730 --> 01:17:11,310
wants to get in. And it's
actually the beginning of the

1278
01:17:11,310 --> 01:17:14,430
clip. That's the most
interesting because he starts

1279
01:17:14,430 --> 01:17:17,070
the talking points. And then she
gets she interrupts and then he

1280
01:17:17,070 --> 01:17:20,280
starts the talking points and
she interrupts and this goes on

1281
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,010
about four or five times until
she finally stops talking and

1282
01:17:23,010 --> 01:17:25,560
who was this guy who was this
guy? I don't have his name but

1283
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,740
he's just another one of these
guys. He's an anti gun guy, one

1284
01:17:28,740 --> 01:17:32,490
of those guys and but he's doing
talking points so he's once he

1285
01:17:32,490 --> 01:17:35,070
gets started he wraps through
the talking points and you can

1286
01:17:35,070 --> 01:17:37,470
be sure you're gonna be hearing
these because this is somebody

1287
01:17:37,470 --> 01:17:41,610
put these out. And what's
interesting is the I would like

1288
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,390
anybody who was a not a second
amendment would they call it a

1289
01:17:45,390 --> 01:17:47,310
war against the Second Amendment
there's actually groups that are

1290
01:17:47,310 --> 01:17:51,000
forming to just take it out of
the Bill of Rights just take it

1291
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,780
out. Whatever the case there's a
bunch of information here I

1292
01:17:54,780 --> 01:17:58,110
think is bogus Texas is never
brought up in the conversation

1293
01:17:58,110 --> 01:18:01,440
for some reason. And they Megan
doesn't bring it up, nobody

1294
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:04,650
brings it up, which is you know,
people are packing in Texas and

1295
01:18:04,650 --> 01:18:09,150
there's less crime less violent
crime. And, but listen to this,

1296
01:18:09,150 --> 01:18:11,760
and you're here, this is what
this is like the one of the

1297
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,210
opening salvos of what we have
to put up with for the next year

1298
01:18:15,210 --> 01:18:16,920
and a half straight people

1299
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,670
did not have such easy access to
guns, two of the three people

1300
01:18:20,670 --> 01:18:23,640
would still be alive. How do you
have a gun in your home Chicago,

1301
01:18:24,150 --> 01:18:24,840
and other places.

1302
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,060
With guns, your home your four
times as likely to be shot with

1303
01:18:30,060 --> 01:18:32,880
it as be able to actually use it
to defend yourself if you have a

1304
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,310
gun in your home, you're twice
as likely to be a victim of

1305
01:18:35,310 --> 01:18:38,700
homicide three times as likely
to be the victim of suicide. And

1306
01:18:38,730 --> 01:18:41,700
and you are a young adult, you
are a young adult in this

1307
01:18:41,700 --> 01:18:46,050
country, you are 17 times more
likely to die from a gun than a

1308
01:18:46,050 --> 01:18:48,480
kid in another developed
country. That is just wrong.

1309
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:48,840
Recent

1310
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:49,680
statistics.

1311
01:18:51,390 --> 01:18:53,190
Statistics includes suicides,

1312
01:18:53,220 --> 01:18:56,640
guns are too easy to get in this
country, we have got to control

1313
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,890
our guns to be able to control
gun violence.

1314
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,590
And yet guns are a lot like
lawyers. You don't want one

1315
01:19:01,590 --> 01:19:04,050
around until you need one. And
in your in your in your house in

1316
01:19:04,050 --> 01:19:05,880
the middle of night and you hear
the door open and somebody's

1317
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,130
thinking probably gonna get
killed if you pull it out. Not

1318
01:19:08,130 --> 01:19:10,260
if you're not if you take your
training and you know how to use

1319
01:19:10,260 --> 01:19:13,290
it. Well, the vast majority of
people in this country do that.

1320
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:14,700
Well, I'm not making any further
comment.

1321
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:16,950
I'm not breaking into your
house.

1322
01:19:17,550 --> 01:19:18,990
I'm not saying a word, but
you're welcome.

1323
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,490
Now, the interesting thing in
that whole besides the talking

1324
01:19:23,490 --> 01:19:27,960
points was I'm not breaking into
your house, which

1325
01:19:28,590 --> 01:19:31,710
is the whole point. It's the
whole point exactly what Texas

1326
01:19:31,710 --> 01:19:33,840
is like, I'm not gonna break
into your house, you might you

1327
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:34,590
might have a gun.

1328
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:39,060
So he actually blew it by saying
that. Yeah. And then he also

1329
01:19:39,060 --> 01:19:40,980
said something the vast
minority.

1330
01:19:41,099 --> 01:19:43,139
Well, that was that was I
thought that was interesting to

1331
01:19:43,139 --> 01:19:45,509
the vast minority. That's what
Yeah, I think that was a

1332
01:19:45,509 --> 01:19:48,869
mistake. That's like most of the
minority, which means even less

1333
01:19:48,869 --> 01:19:50,609
than the minority. It means,

1334
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,480
I mean, anything could be one
person, the vast majority that

1335
01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:57,300
continued on the debt. That
discussion ended at some point

1336
01:19:57,300 --> 01:20:00,000
and we got this news item. I
don't know if this was on her

1337
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,810
Sure elsewhere but I think it
was on her show too. And this is

1338
01:20:03,810 --> 01:20:07,650
the problem this clip surprised
me because we knew this was

1339
01:20:07,650 --> 01:20:11,580
going on before with porn stars
porn stars you're having trouble

1340
01:20:11,580 --> 01:20:12,690
keeping a bank account

1341
01:20:13,740 --> 01:20:16,080
I know what's happening I know
what's out Yeah.

1342
01:20:16,590 --> 01:20:21,330
And porn stars certain kinds of
nightclubs strip joints places

1343
01:20:21,330 --> 01:20:22,800
like that where the banks would

1344
01:20:23,490 --> 01:20:26,730
won't give them an account to
charge to or even a bank account

1345
01:20:26,730 --> 01:20:27,510
period right

1346
01:20:27,540 --> 01:20:29,850
you wouldn't get a bank again
this is totally corrupt by the

1347
01:20:29,850 --> 01:20:32,640
way this nothing more corrupt
than the government and the

1348
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,690
banks being in bed together you
know it's a fascist and

1349
01:20:36,690 --> 01:20:40,110
doing it under the guise of
payday loans are bad and user

1350
01:20:40,140 --> 01:20:43,620
user us which is what the what
the explanation is?

1351
01:20:43,710 --> 01:20:45,960
Well, this explanation is they
don't know what it is because

1352
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,700
they haven't gotten to the
bottom of it. This is the gun

1353
01:20:47,700 --> 01:20:49,590
shops targeted by banks clip

1354
01:20:49,620 --> 01:20:51,960
developing tonight, a Kelly File
investigation into new

1355
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:56,190
allegations of a bank forcing a
gun shop out of business, even

1356
01:20:56,190 --> 01:20:58,560
after the Feds admitted their
involvement in the controversial

1357
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,700
program and agreed to cut it
out. Trace Gallagher reports

1358
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:03,720
trace

1359
01:21:04,590 --> 01:21:07,080
Megan operation choke point was
created by the Obama

1360
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,540
administration to choke up
businesses it finds

1361
01:21:09,540 --> 01:21:13,260
objectionable like gun shops,
casinos and tobacco sellers. The

1362
01:21:13,260 --> 01:21:16,110
way it reportedly worked is that
banks and other financial

1363
01:21:16,110 --> 01:21:19,290
institutions were pressured by
the Department of Justice and

1364
01:21:19,290 --> 01:21:23,940
the Federal Insurance deposit
corporation or FDIC to cut off

1365
01:21:23,940 --> 01:21:27,210
accounts for certain businesses.
After Congress challenged the

1366
01:21:27,210 --> 01:21:30,750
Feds on Operation choke point,
the chairman of the FDIC

1367
01:21:30,750 --> 01:21:34,110
acknowledged that program might
have been misunderstood and

1368
01:21:34,110 --> 01:21:37,440
misapplied and then agreed to
reverse course, by this

1369
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:41,370
Wednesday, Congress wants the
feds to provide documents to

1370
01:21:41,370 --> 01:21:44,880
prove that certain businesses
are no longer being bullied. And

1371
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,660
yet a few weeks ago, the owner
of American gun and pawn in

1372
01:21:48,660 --> 01:21:51,930
Central Florida got a letter
from SunTrust Bank saying that

1373
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,360
all of his accounts would be
closed, there was no

1374
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:58,440
explanation, except that quoting
here, there are circumstances

1375
01:21:58,530 --> 01:22:02,190
where we will identify a
specific account relationship

1376
01:22:02,250 --> 01:22:05,880
that no longer meets these
criteria. The owner Steve

1377
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,840
champion had no idea what the
criteria was. But when he called

1378
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,510
SunTrust he says he quickly
found out

1379
01:22:14,010 --> 01:22:17,400
when I called one of their one
of their you know, the people

1380
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,140
that answered the phone, you
know, first thing in the morning

1381
01:22:19,410 --> 01:22:21,660
could have been some kind of
clerk or something said all you

1382
01:22:21,660 --> 01:22:23,730
got one of the gun letters,
these are going out to a lot of

1383
01:22:23,730 --> 01:22:26,940
different you know, gun shops
around the country. So I can't

1384
01:22:26,940 --> 01:22:29,760
say for sure that the you know
the reason but it sure sounds

1385
01:22:29,850 --> 01:22:30,150
fishy.

1386
01:22:31,950 --> 01:22:35,340
So we called SunTrust. And a
spokesperson told us that the

1387
01:22:35,340 --> 01:22:38,460
reason Mr. champion's accounts
were closed is because part of

1388
01:22:38,460 --> 01:22:41,970
his business is a pawn shop
saying quoting again, any

1389
01:22:41,970 --> 01:22:45,450
suggestion that this is a
firearms issue is inaccurate?

1390
01:22:47,970 --> 01:22:52,740
Well, this is important. Yes.
That means they can do the same

1391
01:22:52,740 --> 01:22:54,060
thing to podcasts

1392
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:58,140
easily. Of course, we'll be on
deck right now like this. Shut

1393
01:22:58,140 --> 01:23:02,790
down. WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks.
Thank you very much. Pierre

1394
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:07,320
Omidyar drive my car that cut
off PayPal from WikiLeaks. It

1395
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,020
could be we use PayPal if we're
not on message and someone gets

1396
01:23:10,020 --> 01:23:13,170
annoyed. But if we had won a
podcast award, we would have had

1397
01:23:13,410 --> 01:23:17,340
the higher likelihood of being
cut off. Can you the you're in

1398
01:23:17,340 --> 01:23:18,240
the in the picture? Yeah.

1399
01:23:18,270 --> 01:23:21,510
Well, WikiLeaks is a perfect
example. So it's a legitimate

1400
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:26,130
business. They're not doing
anything illegal, unlawful, or

1401
01:23:26,130 --> 01:23:30,150
unlawful. But they got cut off
from PayPal, and once they put

1402
01:23:30,150 --> 01:23:32,610
up some stuff that the
government didn't want to see,

1403
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,480
this is what started to happen.
There was and this was happening

1404
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:40,560
with these gun guys because
Obama's boys led by holder don't

1405
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,930
like gun shops. They don't like
people owning guns. It's like

1406
01:23:42,930 --> 01:23:45,180
you don't want that. There was
so many, you know, been busy

1407
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:48,570
campaigning for the cops to run
some guy down. Walking down the

1408
01:23:48,570 --> 01:23:49,020
street.

1409
01:23:50,940 --> 01:23:56,280
I got a note from Sir Chris, who
runs a bull's eye. That's the he

1410
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,520
has a couple of gun stores.
Right and he sent me a note,

1411
01:23:59,820 --> 01:24:05,310
which was a letter sent to sent
from Shirley Weber, California

1412
01:24:05,310 --> 01:24:09,780
State Assembly regarding
regarding the opposition to a B

1413
01:24:09,780 --> 01:24:15,990
66. This is a bill about cops
wearing cameras. I just want to

1414
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:17,640
read it to you because there's
something very interesting in

1415
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:23,790
here on behalf of more than 2000
members of the San Francisco

1416
01:24:23,790 --> 01:24:26,760
Police Officers Association we
regret to inform you of our

1417
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:32,460
opposition to a B 66. From the
from the from the let me see

1418
01:24:32,460 --> 01:24:34,590
what this No it's I think this
is from the from the from the

1419
01:24:34,590 --> 01:24:39,450
cops from the SF P Oh A. We read
to inform your opposition to a B

1420
01:24:39,450 --> 01:24:43,290
66 contract concerning body worn
cameras for peace officers. I

1421
01:24:43,290 --> 01:24:48,210
love that term. By the way. This
like peace keepers. Many cities

1422
01:24:48,210 --> 01:24:50,040
and counties throughout
California have implemented or

1423
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,470
in the process of implementing
the use of body worn cameras a B

1424
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:55,380
66 establishes a number of
significant mandates concerning

1425
01:24:55,380 --> 01:24:58,440
the use of these cameras. Many
of the mandates and a B 66 are

1426
01:24:58,440 --> 01:25:00,750
likely to result in serious
putting unjustly, dangerous,

1427
01:25:00,780 --> 01:25:04,290
unintended consequences. While
we support much of the language

1428
01:25:04,290 --> 01:25:06,720
in this bill, the goals that
seeks to attain our strong

1429
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:10,410
concerns with certain sections
of this legislation require us

1430
01:25:10,410 --> 01:25:14,640
to oppose HB 66. And here's the
one that's interesting. Watch,

1431
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,850
I'll do all three of them here
lack of meet and confer this

1432
01:25:17,850 --> 01:25:19,980
bill potentially violates
meeting confer requirements for

1433
01:25:19,980 --> 01:25:21,660
any change in working
conditions. I don't know what

1434
01:25:21,660 --> 01:25:25,740
that means. Lack of clarity, but
here, it would recruit with him

1435
01:25:25,770 --> 01:25:31,260
having body worn cameras would
would require officers to read

1436
01:25:31,260 --> 01:25:34,590
Miranda rights to victims, and
would require it which I think

1437
01:25:34,590 --> 01:25:37,800
is required if you're arrested.
While we respect and understand

1438
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,770
the goal of this language, we do
not feel it is appropriate for a

1439
01:25:40,770 --> 01:25:43,380
victim or witness to have
Miranda rights read to them.

1440
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,590
Hearing Miranda rights can be a
stressful and confusing process

1441
01:25:46,590 --> 01:25:48,990
and may alienate the very
individuals who could be most

1442
01:25:48,990 --> 01:25:54,570
helpful in providing critical
evidence. How does that work?

1443
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,300
I don't think this is right,
first of all the meet and confer

1444
01:25:57,300 --> 01:26:01,020
means that the police union
can't have you just can't start

1445
01:26:01,020 --> 01:26:03,480
throwing making them do stuff
without the meeting and

1446
01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:10,440
conferring over it. Okay. Now.
They she says whoever wrote that

1447
01:26:10,440 --> 01:26:13,710
note says that Miranda rights
must be read to victims

1448
01:26:14,340 --> 01:26:18,690
and and potential witnesses.

1449
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:22,980
Why would that be that makes no
sense? I don't know.

1450
01:26:23,700 --> 01:26:28,680
It says rights to victims. Is
that requirement victimized

1451
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,650
somebody? Somebody drove did a
drive by shooting and I got

1452
01:26:31,650 --> 01:26:32,070
shot.

1453
01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:34,320
I think it's irrelevant if
you're going to my right, if

1454
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,770
you're arrested, if they if they
have to arrest you know, that

1455
01:26:37,770 --> 01:26:39,870
doesn't say anything about it
being a red house. What is a

1456
01:26:39,870 --> 01:26:41,430
victim get arrest? I'm just

1457
01:26:41,490 --> 01:26:44,280
no well, maybe I don't know.
We're witnesses. If there's

1458
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,010
confusion and the Hey, we get to
arrest everybody to find out

1459
01:26:47,010 --> 01:26:47,820
what happened here.

1460
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,620
What you did, it's called false
arrest. That's a problem.

1461
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:57,570
I I just found it interesting. I
really don't know why or how but

1462
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:02,940
it seems counterintuitive
clarification. Now, while we had

1463
01:27:02,940 --> 01:27:05,730
Megyn Kelly and I have a clip I
have Megyn Kelly clip,

1464
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,270
interestingly, but first broke.
We had Debbie Wasserman Schultz

1465
01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:13,350
led Yes, we had Debbie Wasserman
Schultz, the chairwoman of the

1466
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:18,270
Democratic Party going around
responding to little Ron Rand

1467
01:27:18,270 --> 01:27:25,590
Paul's statements about
abortion, late term abortion.

1468
01:27:26,250 --> 01:27:30,750
And I don't have his statement,
but I think it was very similar

1469
01:27:30,750 --> 01:27:34,860
to his father Ron Paul, saying,
you know, in the third

1470
01:27:34,860 --> 01:27:38,040
trimester, you have a living
human being inside of you, and

1471
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:43,020
that is murder and not abortion,
and which I'm not going to

1472
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:47,910
debate. But the way Debbie
Wasserman Schultz answered, this

1473
01:27:48,180 --> 01:27:52,230
was very interesting. In both
cases first, here she is with

1474
01:27:52,230 --> 01:27:52,710
broth,

1475
01:27:52,770 --> 01:27:56,250
right when he says that it's
okay, from your perspective to

1476
01:27:56,250 --> 01:27:59,670
kill a seven pound baby and
uterus. Is that your position?

1477
01:28:00,390 --> 01:28:03,090
We have very different
definitions of personal liberty.

1478
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,550
I made that clear in my
response, the Democratic Party's

1479
01:28:05,550 --> 01:28:08,820
position is that we are pro
choice. We believe that a

1480
01:28:08,820 --> 01:28:11,280
decision on a woman's
reproductive choices is best

1481
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,310
left between a woman and her
doctor. And I am still waiting

1482
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:17,760
for Rand Paul to say whether or
not he supports exceptions when

1483
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,120
when a woman is raped. Are we
going to force a woman to carry

1484
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,850
a baby to term and not allow her
to make that choice? Are we

1485
01:28:23,850 --> 01:28:25,920
going to wait when she's the
victim of rape when she's the

1486
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,490
victim of incest? Are we going
to let a woman die? Would Rand

1487
01:28:29,490 --> 01:28:34,800
Paul let a woman die? Because
she's carrying a baby? Or is she

1488
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,710
going to let her make that
choice with her doctor? I

1489
01:28:39,810 --> 01:28:42,570
I like where the conversation is
going because it's entertaining

1490
01:28:42,570 --> 01:28:42,990
to me.

1491
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,550
Is very entertaining. Wait for
the Megyn Kelly her Wasserman

1492
01:28:47,550 --> 01:28:51,180
Schultz cannot get off. She is
the representative of the

1493
01:28:51,210 --> 01:28:55,230
Democratic National Committee.
So she has very specific talking

1494
01:28:55,230 --> 01:28:58,290
point she cannot get off of the
she did not get off these

1495
01:28:58,290 --> 01:29:01,290
talking points, because it'll
screw things up. Uh huh. And she

1496
01:29:01,290 --> 01:29:05,250
can't, she can't just say no,
we're against murder. She will

1497
01:29:05,250 --> 01:29:07,860
not express an opinion of hers.

1498
01:29:07,889 --> 01:29:11,039
Yes. Let's listen to her on The
Kelly File even more

1499
01:29:11,039 --> 01:29:11,849
entertaining, you

1500
01:29:12,030 --> 01:29:15,930
would admit that. You can't have
women aborting third trimester

1501
01:29:15,930 --> 01:29:18,450
babies just on a whim. Right? I
mean, so you,

1502
01:29:18,690 --> 01:29:22,050
you agree they're certainly not
on a whim. But when

1503
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,110
trying to get you know, where
did where do the Democrats stand

1504
01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:26,280
on? You know, should?

1505
01:29:26,370 --> 01:29:29,490
We've been very clear that
there's no ambivalence here.

1506
01:29:29,490 --> 01:29:33,720
We're very clear. We believe
that that decision is best left

1507
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:37,140
not to government, but between a
woman and her doctor. So there

1508
01:29:37,140 --> 01:29:41,640
isn't I can't tell you a
specific date and time past

1509
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:46,620
which we on all in all cases are
certain that that choice

1510
01:29:46,620 --> 01:29:50,220
shouldn't be made because that
decision is very unique and

1511
01:29:50,220 --> 01:29:53,640
individual to the woman and
should be in consultation with

1512
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:57,360
her conscience and her God and
her doctor. That is the decision

1513
01:29:57,390 --> 01:29:58,290
left to her.

1514
01:29:58,620 --> 01:30:02,430
By the way dads have nothing to
do with this? Yeah, nothing's

1515
01:30:02,430 --> 01:30:08,190
zero. It must be unless you
unless he's a doctor. I just

1516
01:30:08,220 --> 01:30:10,440
found it interesting. She threw
in the little God thing there.

1517
01:30:10,440 --> 01:30:14,640
And that was kind of cool. That
we are in for a crazy time. And

1518
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:19,050
we're really going to try here
on the no agenda show. To cut

1519
01:30:19,050 --> 01:30:22,260
through the bullcrap. And boy,
there's a lot of it. Oh, it's

1520
01:30:22,260 --> 01:30:25,050
gonna be even better. Well, for
us, I think it's good because we

1521
01:30:25,050 --> 01:30:26,430
will. It'll be comedic.

1522
01:30:27,089 --> 01:30:30,269
Well, I got a little comedic
thing here. Okay. There's a

1523
01:30:30,269 --> 01:30:33,029
little distant guy gotta go very
far as it'll be a little bit off

1524
01:30:33,029 --> 01:30:37,799
topic. But this was a meeting
one of these financial things

1525
01:30:37,799 --> 01:30:44,999
about the the new bank China is
trying to open up the Asian in

1526
01:30:44,999 --> 01:30:46,409
the eye,

1527
01:30:46,769 --> 01:30:50,309
Asian in Infrastructure
Investment Bank, which Russia

1528
01:30:50,309 --> 01:30:52,049
now just signed up to join as
well.

1529
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,530
Yeah, that'll screw things up.
Anyway, let's listen to the

1530
01:30:55,530 --> 01:30:58,080
guard though. Because she made
she comes up with a new term

1531
01:30:58,110 --> 01:31:02,100
Fifi. Fifi is the the chairwoman
or president of the

1532
01:31:02,670 --> 01:31:08,160
International Monetary Fund,
which is at AIB is a competitor

1533
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:09,420
up to the

1534
01:31:10,019 --> 01:31:14,039
right. And, of course, the IMF
cut China out of the picture.

1535
01:31:14,039 --> 01:31:16,409
And that's why China started the
AI be?

1536
01:31:16,710 --> 01:31:20,820
Well, the IMF didn't cut China
out of the picture, the

1537
01:31:20,850 --> 01:31:25,410
ratification of the 2010 where
they call it

1538
01:31:28,440 --> 01:31:32,160
some Oh, but they got cut out
somehow.

1539
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,550
Because the United States
Congress would not ratify the

1540
01:31:35,550 --> 01:31:39,270
changes to allow China in, which
would make China number two and

1541
01:31:39,270 --> 01:31:43,020
voting rights, but the US would
retain its veto power. But we'll

1542
01:31:43,020 --> 01:31:43,860
just have none of that.

1543
01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:47,280
No, no, you have to have
everything here's loose is fine.

1544
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,580
All right. It's all setting up
China for a fall. Can we listen

1545
01:31:50,580 --> 01:31:52,050
to Fifi? Yes.

1546
01:31:52,410 --> 01:31:56,730
One of your main messages today
is that global economic growth

1547
01:31:57,030 --> 01:32:01,380
is yes, it's growing. But it's
not enough. It's not as fast as

1548
01:32:01,380 --> 01:32:06,030
you'd like to see it. And you
went so far as to say, growth in

1549
01:32:06,030 --> 01:32:10,740
the near term is going to be
pared down. What did you mean by

1550
01:32:10,740 --> 01:32:12,450
that? And why is that happening?

1551
01:32:14,430 --> 01:32:19,860
Today's growth indicates that
recovery is underway. And

1552
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:24,990
unfortunately, it is to moderate
and an even, that's for the

1553
01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:30,030
short term. But what we're also
seeing is that the growth

1554
01:32:30,030 --> 01:32:33,960
potential, that is growth for
tomorrow and the day after

1555
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:39,870
tomorrow, has been seriously
affected by the scars of the

1556
01:32:39,870 --> 01:32:43,620
financial crisis by something
that we can't do anything about,

1557
01:32:43,620 --> 01:32:48,030
which is the aging of
population, and by a very low

1558
01:32:48,030 --> 01:32:56,250
productivity. So what we risk is
the new mediocre, not to become

1559
01:32:56,250 --> 01:32:57,870
reality. Oh, well,

1560
01:32:57,900 --> 01:32:59,340
welcome to Facebook,

1561
01:32:59,580 --> 01:33:01,320
The New Yorker,

1562
01:33:01,350 --> 01:33:04,830
this is genome reality, that's
better than a flying router.

1563
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:09,120
Close second, actually, I don't
know. New, mediocre,

1564
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:14,310
mediocre. By the way, what she's
describing is Common Core.

1565
01:33:16,110 --> 01:33:18,510
There's that what she's
describing a lot of things, but

1566
01:33:18,540 --> 01:33:21,870
when she talks about the economy
going the way it's going, which

1567
01:33:21,900 --> 01:33:24,930
by the way, none of that was a
rosy picture. It wasn't Oh,

1568
01:33:24,930 --> 01:33:26,370
we're back on track the stock
market.

1569
01:33:26,370 --> 01:33:29,610
Oh, we have the scars of the
financial crisis. Yes, this

1570
01:33:29,670 --> 01:33:34,500
is an apt description of a 10
year depression, which was,

1571
01:33:34,830 --> 01:33:38,820
which was which took place in
the 70s place in the 30s. It's

1572
01:33:38,820 --> 01:33:42,120
taking place throughout history.
And that's exactly what's going

1573
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,610
on. And all she's doing is
describing it and nobody wants

1574
01:33:44,610 --> 01:33:47,100
to admit it, except a few people
or a few people that say we're

1575
01:33:47,100 --> 01:33:48,390
in a depression. But

1576
01:33:48,420 --> 01:33:53,310
well, you, you and I, you and I
we agree. Well, there was more

1577
01:33:53,310 --> 01:33:59,280
craziness, the European Central
Bank has now gone to negative

1578
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:03,180
interest rate. And I read in the
it was either Bloomberg or the

1579
01:34:03,180 --> 01:34:07,170
Wall Street Journal that banks
now who have handed out

1580
01:34:07,170 --> 01:34:11,880
mortgages to people with
adjustable rates now actually

1581
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:16,740
have to pay these people who
borrowed money. You have to pay

1582
01:34:16,740 --> 01:34:19,800
them because the interest rate
is negative. So what they're

1583
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:21,690
doing they're not actually
paying well, they are they're

1584
01:34:21,690 --> 01:34:22,590
not giving people

1585
01:34:22,860 --> 01:34:27,270
really pay you just your your
payments go below your base, so

1586
01:34:27,270 --> 01:34:31,710
is low that it's equivalent and
being paid. The report says have

1587
01:34:31,710 --> 01:34:32,670
to pay the loan off.

1588
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:36,030
Yes. But the report says that
they are now deducting the

1589
01:34:36,030 --> 01:34:39,270
amount from the principal. Yeah.
So yes, yes, you still have to

1590
01:34:39,270 --> 01:34:42,630
pay a principal amount but it's
reduced, right. It's reduced.

1591
01:34:42,930 --> 01:34:47,610
And then And then what happened
the ECB was discussing this. I

1592
01:34:47,610 --> 01:34:50,820
don't know if you saw this a
conference of the our press

1593
01:34:50,820 --> 01:34:55,050
conference. And they were
talking about the the negative

1594
01:34:55,050 --> 01:34:58,350
interest rate and all the
typical things about pretty much

1595
01:34:58,350 --> 01:35:02,580
running the EU banking system
them, and a protester woman cute

1596
01:35:02,580 --> 01:35:03,000
girl.

1597
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:04,020
I have a clip.

1598
01:35:04,140 --> 01:35:08,910
I have a clip too. I have a clip
of it happening. I'll just play

1599
01:35:08,910 --> 01:35:17,130
it's 30 seconds and then we'll
play your clip conditions. We

1600
01:35:17,130 --> 01:35:20,700
will treat it she jumps up

1601
01:35:41,700 --> 01:35:46,140
love this. So she jumps up
that's, that's actually as

1602
01:35:46,140 --> 01:35:50,670
interesting of this footage.
There's a shot of her. Before it

1603
01:35:50,670 --> 01:35:52,320
takes place. She's sitting in
the front row with other

1604
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,500
journalists. And she has a coda
which she takes off and she has

1605
01:35:55,500 --> 01:35:59,970
a t shirt on that says and the
ECB dictatorship DIC que tater

1606
01:35:59,970 --> 01:36:04,620
ship, which of course means that
men are ruining the male or she

1607
01:36:04,620 --> 01:36:09,600
by the way, calls herself a
protester for hire. And the if

1608
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:16,200
you look into who she is, her
name is something which

1609
01:36:16,230 --> 01:36:20,100
Stephanie wit I think she's one
of those from the feminine group

1610
01:36:20,910 --> 01:36:24,150
that oh, okay, who are
protesters for hire? So someone

1611
01:36:24,150 --> 01:36:29,550
hired her to do this. Yeah. And,
and feminine feminist, the group

1612
01:36:29,550 --> 01:36:31,020
of women who take their clothes
off

1613
01:36:31,020 --> 01:36:32,730
when sitting justice Farage?

1614
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,170
Possibly, but it's cool, because
you can now just hire this group

1615
01:36:37,170 --> 01:36:40,920
to do cool stuff. And yeah, and
she's hot and she jumped up on

1616
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:44,130
the pretty the enter button.
Yeah, her butt was showing and

1617
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:49,170
she had a skimpy little slip on
the whole thing was great.

1618
01:36:49,740 --> 01:36:52,740
Yeah, well, I actually just have
the report of it, which I

1619
01:36:52,740 --> 01:36:56,700
thought was pretty, pretty funny
in and of itself.

1620
01:36:58,170 --> 01:37:00,390
Which one is Draghi? And the
girl?

1621
01:37:00,810 --> 01:37:04,290
Yes. Mario Draghi, of course, is
the President of the ECB.

1622
01:37:04,590 --> 01:37:08,280
And in Germany, the head of the
European Central Bank had his

1623
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:13,290
own scare from against austerity
policies. Mario Draghi was

1624
01:37:13,290 --> 01:37:16,620
holding a news conference in
Frankfurt, when a woman leapt

1625
01:37:16,620 --> 01:37:21,030
onto the desk, she dumped
confetti and shouted in the ECB

1626
01:37:21,030 --> 01:37:23,580
dictatorship, before she was
dragged away.

1627
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:28,320
I'm all for this. I'm a big fan
of this. This is the kind of

1628
01:37:28,350 --> 01:37:32,730
protest that needs although it's
sad that it's not a real person

1629
01:37:32,730 --> 01:37:35,850
who really understands what
she's doing, and hates the ECB

1630
01:37:35,850 --> 01:37:39,420
for what they're doing. She's
hired by someone. But that in

1631
01:37:39,420 --> 01:37:42,300
itself is good. We need more
protests. This is

1632
01:37:43,140 --> 01:37:47,190
what it is. I say don't throw
the book at her. Oh, they will.

1633
01:37:47,820 --> 01:37:48,780
Oh, okay.

1634
01:37:48,810 --> 01:37:51,900
It's Europe may Hello, eu now
that of course they're gonna

1635
01:37:51,900 --> 01:37:55,530
throw the book at her, but as
great PR and I'd like what I

1636
01:37:55,590 --> 01:37:58,530
would have preferred if she
jumped up and she'd have no

1637
01:37:58,530 --> 01:38:01,290
agenda show a t shirt we can
hire them to do this

1638
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,040
might not be a bad thought, some
way of getting publicity. We can

1639
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:05,280
hire

1640
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:10,950
these feminine people. Hear the
truth. Listen to no agenda show.

1641
01:38:11,940 --> 01:38:16,230
Dictator. Well, there's another
route we listen to no agenda.

1642
01:38:16,260 --> 01:38:20,220
They put the dick in dictator.
What's the other route?

1643
01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:24,510
There's another route you can
go. Now this is a fairly long

1644
01:38:24,510 --> 01:38:27,180
report, but I got to divide it
up into two things and you can

1645
01:38:27,180 --> 01:38:33,000
cut the second part off. Okay,
but this is about trolls. paid

1646
01:38:33,060 --> 01:38:37,950
trolls in Russia. It's very
interesting.

1647
01:38:37,980 --> 01:38:41,460
I read this. Well, they are the
scourge of the internet.

1648
01:38:42,450 --> 01:38:45,900
That's it done. Report is done.
We are the scourge of the

1649
01:38:45,900 --> 01:38:47,760
internet. No agenda show.com
Trolls.

1650
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,520
These are people who get on chat
rooms or sites and try to stir

1651
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,520
up controversy. Whoo,
unsuspecting young people

1652
01:38:53,580 --> 01:38:54,840
or worse, and that's

1653
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:58,650
the picture most of us know. But
as our next report shows trolls

1654
01:38:58,650 --> 01:39:03,780
are also propaganda shares a
dubious political message

1655
01:39:03,810 --> 01:39:08,130
undercover as anonymous citizens
simply chatting online.

1656
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,970
It's being done in Russia. We
got an inside look at just how

1657
01:39:11,970 --> 01:39:12,570
it works.

1658
01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:16,620
This unremarkable building in a
residential part of St.

1659
01:39:16,620 --> 01:39:20,130
Petersburg is the locus of a pro
Kremlin propaganda campaign. The

1660
01:39:20,130 --> 01:39:23,400
sign says business center with
no other hint of what's going on

1661
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:28,290
inside. Most people working here
a young around 18 or 20. And no

1662
01:39:28,290 --> 01:39:34,500
one wants to say exactly what
they're doing. Merit applied for

1663
01:39:34,500 --> 01:39:38,910
work here as an online troll.
There was no contract. He was

1664
01:39:38,910 --> 01:39:42,720
paid in cash for 12 hour shifts.
He says there was barely any

1665
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:49,410
talking and employees had to pay
a fine for being late. So praise

1666
01:39:49,410 --> 01:39:50,040
quotes Coco court

1667
01:39:50,309 --> 01:39:53,039
multiline there was an
atmosphere of silence and

1668
01:39:53,039 --> 01:39:57,989
depression. Now, we had so many
tasks that we had no time to

1669
01:39:57,989 --> 01:40:02,009
walk around. Yeah, to meet you.
quota. You had to work, work

1670
01:40:02,009 --> 01:40:03,179
work, but somewhat struggle.

1671
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:08,670
To create the illusion of a
discussion, three trolls work on

1672
01:40:08,670 --> 01:40:12,480
one topic. One plays the villain
and says things clearly not in

1673
01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:15,300
line with the authorities and
other person contradicts him.

1674
01:40:15,570 --> 01:40:21,600
And the third adds balance from
the Kremlin perspective. Marat

1675
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:25,260
was told what to discuss on the
forums of various Russian

1676
01:40:25,260 --> 01:40:30,090
websites. They will often local
news sites from around the

1677
01:40:30,090 --> 01:40:30,570
country.

1678
01:40:30,660 --> 01:40:34,110
Is this a BBC report John or
just an English guy as well?

1679
01:40:34,410 --> 01:40:37,350
Okay, whenever you have a Brit,
you know, it sounds like the

1680
01:40:37,350 --> 01:40:37,830
truth.

1681
01:40:41,550 --> 01:40:45,000
starts in a store one time, I
had to convince the readers that

1682
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:49,920
a majority of Germans support
Putin's politics. Improv the bad

1683
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:55,170
guy wrote, nonsense. The Germans
don't like Putin. Then we come

1684
01:40:55,170 --> 01:41:00,600
in and write. Of course Germans
love him. Check this out. And

1685
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:04,650
then I posted a link to a
dubious Russian news portal to

1686
01:41:04,890 --> 01:41:08,940
the message to readers. Putin is
venerated in Germany by

1687
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,830
popularity is sinking is in
decline. So on point,

1688
01:41:14,730 --> 01:41:18,810
I will point out that this
tactic of troll is an

1689
01:41:18,810 --> 01:41:23,370
interesting word of trolls in
chat rooms and forums, etc. is

1690
01:41:23,370 --> 01:41:28,140
well documented to be a, a
concept invented by Cass

1691
01:41:28,140 --> 01:41:33,510
Sunstein. He wrote the paper on
this. This is how America would

1692
01:41:33,510 --> 01:41:34,560
propagandize

1693
01:41:35,130 --> 01:41:38,430
I believe that this has been
going on here much longer. It's

1694
01:41:38,430 --> 01:41:39,180
been going on it's

1695
01:41:39,180 --> 01:41:40,410
in our own chat room.

1696
01:41:41,940 --> 01:41:46,260
Exactly. It would be it wouldn't
be it has to be Yeah. This was

1697
01:41:46,260 --> 01:41:50,130
going on. I know this is going
on with the Munchkin a situation

1698
01:41:50,130 --> 01:41:53,580
with during the OS two era with
Microsoft trolls.

1699
01:41:53,610 --> 01:41:55,320
I'm sorry, the Munchkin Yeah,
we're

1700
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,720
called munchkins, these little
guys from Microsoft had come in

1701
01:41:57,720 --> 01:41:59,790
to anything that was had to do
with OS two and they were

1702
01:41:59,790 --> 01:42:05,490
promoting windows and it
destroying any concept that OS

1703
01:42:05,490 --> 01:42:10,350
two is any good. This is a era
when Ballmer IBM came out with

1704
01:42:10,350 --> 01:42:14,010
OS two at one point and said
it's crash proof. So Ballmer

1705
01:42:14,010 --> 01:42:19,620
himself with a disk that was
written for some by some coders

1706
01:42:19,620 --> 01:42:23,400
at the company would go during
comp the Comdex here and go into

1707
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,340
the IBM booth where there's
always two pieces crash proof,

1708
01:42:26,460 --> 01:42:30,390
stick the disk in and crashed
the machine. And of course,

1709
01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:35,910
nobody found this outrageous.
No, it was amusing in some ways,

1710
01:42:35,910 --> 01:42:39,450
but But this sort of thing is
American strategy. And there's

1711
01:42:39,450 --> 01:42:43,020
no question in my mind that the
State Department's been doing it

1712
01:42:43,170 --> 01:42:45,360
forever, especially when Hillary
was there.

1713
01:42:45,390 --> 01:42:48,090
We know she trailed nowhere. She
trained them. They called them

1714
01:42:48,090 --> 01:42:49,320
CYBER WARS. I

1715
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:53,730
talked to PR people and from big
agencies about this. And they

1716
01:42:53,730 --> 01:42:58,530
will they kind of deny that
anyone has anything to do with

1717
01:42:58,530 --> 01:43:01,080
it that definitely don't work
for the company. But there may

1718
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:04,950
be independent contractors that
contract out for certain things,

1719
01:43:05,250 --> 01:43:09,540
but certain kinds of publicity
stunts that have teams of these

1720
01:43:09,540 --> 01:43:13,200
people that go into chat rooms,
and this is why none of this

1721
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,440
should be taken. People should
only go to the chat room for the

1722
01:43:16,440 --> 01:43:21,210
amusement part. And no, don't
get into an argument because

1723
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:25,500
there's professional art viewers
that will beat you back. Yeah,

1724
01:43:25,710 --> 01:43:28,530
techno experts to Hillary's
technical experts. That's what

1725
01:43:28,530 --> 01:43:32,850
it was. Her techno experts tech
no extra training, it's well

1726
01:43:32,850 --> 01:43:36,240
documented. Let's see techno
echo I wonder if we have

1727
01:43:36,269 --> 01:43:38,279
any way they go on? Do you want
to play the second half a day

1728
01:43:38,279 --> 01:43:41,369
outside without having to go on
the show? It all like a lot of

1729
01:43:41,369 --> 01:43:45,629
the art that's on the internet
is created by the Russians on

1730
01:43:45,899 --> 01:43:49,289
elsewhere. We knew this has a
picture of something and another

1731
01:43:49,289 --> 01:43:52,469
Who's the idiot you know what
this captions is kind of the

1732
01:43:52,469 --> 01:43:55,079
stuff I put at the end of the
newsletter. I'll have some cute

1733
01:43:55,079 --> 01:43:58,199
thing. And once they're all and
make it look like a poster.

1734
01:43:58,260 --> 01:44:01,200
I don't have a technical experts
here. This is an old clip

1735
01:44:02,820 --> 01:44:04,950
in our technical experts,

1736
01:44:05,970 --> 01:44:10,110
okay, it's the jingle I got it.
techno song? Yes, the song. We

1737
01:44:10,110 --> 01:44:13,590
can play it at the end of the
show. That might be fun. Anyway,

1738
01:44:13,590 --> 01:44:13,650
I

1739
01:44:13,650 --> 01:44:16,530
thought that was interesting.
And a lot of it had to do with

1740
01:44:16,530 --> 01:44:19,260
demeaning Merkel. I think
Merkel's irked Oh,

1741
01:44:19,290 --> 01:44:21,690
they're calling it there's a
name for it in Europe. It's

1742
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:27,390
Merkel's mistake. This, this all
these alliterative terms that

1743
01:44:27,390 --> 01:44:30,690
are being used for and this is
the Kagan's by the way this is

1744
01:44:30,690 --> 01:44:34,680
Nudelman who was who I'm talking
about Merkel being an idiot and

1745
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:35,640
they're spreading that

1746
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,470
yeah, very rude. Oh

1747
01:44:42,990 --> 01:44:48,660
while here as a part of the six
weeks cycle cluster again, this

1748
01:44:48,660 --> 01:44:52,020
was very I actually caught this
and I went home this in my my

1749
01:44:52,020 --> 01:44:56,010
brain even though the short term
memory seems to be depleting

1750
01:44:56,610 --> 01:44:59,670
concern. I am concerned about my
short term memory, long term

1751
01:44:59,670 --> 01:45:04,530
memories Very good. And the big
news Oh, ISIS is in Mexico.

1752
01:45:05,010 --> 01:45:09,510
ISIS, just very walk right into
Laredo.

1753
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,870
They're here. I retweeted that.
Okay,

1754
01:45:12,930 --> 01:45:16,500
now, let me play the clip. And
then I'll play you something

1755
01:45:16,500 --> 01:45:19,290
that I went back and discovered
because of the long term memory

1756
01:45:19,290 --> 01:45:20,100
working. Here's

1757
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,490
our news report that said,

1758
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:27,270
this is Sheriff Gary painter
from Midland, Texas. And he's

1759
01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:29,970
talking about this report about
from the Mexican authorities

1760
01:45:29,970 --> 01:45:33,270
apparently, that ISIS is in
Mexico, just two miles from the

1761
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:35,760
border, and they could be in
Laredo any minute. Well, our

1762
01:45:36,990 --> 01:45:42,330
report that said that there was
ASOs sales that were active in

1763
01:45:42,330 --> 01:45:45,510
the Warriors area, which is
northern part of Chihuahua

1764
01:45:45,510 --> 01:45:49,260
state, and that they were moving
around over there that they had

1765
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,560
just to throw some activity in
for the sheriffs along the

1766
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:58,170
border to be on the alert for
all law enforcement to be on the

1767
01:45:58,170 --> 01:46:01,560
alert. And to be on the lookout
for these people maybe trying to

1768
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:02,130
come across.

1769
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:06,600
Are you saying that ISIS is
ready to come across poised to

1770
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,990
perhaps execute what they have
threatened to do attacks on the

1771
01:46:09,990 --> 01:46:12,720
United States drown us in our
own blood? Is that what you're

1772
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:12,960
saying?

1773
01:46:13,260 --> 01:46:18,300
leading the witness? drown us in
our own blood leading the

1774
01:46:18,300 --> 01:46:19,110
witness? I'm

1775
01:46:19,110 --> 01:46:21,780
saying the border is wide open.
There is no control on the

1776
01:46:21,780 --> 01:46:24,660
border. It's not shut off.
There's places along the Rio

1777
01:46:24,660 --> 01:46:27,600
Grande you can walk across
there's no water in it. I worked

1778
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,180
the border for eight years I
walked back and forth across the

1779
01:46:30,180 --> 01:46:34,380
Rio Grande I was in Mexico. I
was on this side and never got

1780
01:46:34,380 --> 01:46:38,070
challenged in there's always a
way to get across there's

1781
01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:41,790
counties that bring those people
across for 1000s of dollars but

1782
01:46:41,790 --> 01:46:45,150
they'll bring them into that
area in in wait when the time is

1783
01:46:45,150 --> 01:46:47,610
right and they'll bring them
across the river. Why not? We

1784
01:46:47,610 --> 01:46:51,750
have found people along those
the border Who is this,

1785
01:46:52,020 --> 01:46:54,180
this from CNN, of course,

1786
01:46:54,450 --> 01:46:57,960
these people come across have
found Muslim clothing they have

1787
01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,640
found books

1788
01:46:59,670 --> 01:47:05,040
they found Koran books it's not
Muslim clothing, Qur'an books,

1789
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:06,690
Damn man, Muslims laying

1790
01:47:06,690 --> 01:47:10,290
on the side of the road or side
of the trail. So we know that

1791
01:47:10,290 --> 01:47:13,650
there are Muslims that have come
across and being smuggled in the

1792
01:47:13,650 --> 01:47:14,880
United States, or perhaps

1793
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,880
just some Muslim Qur'an books
were thrown around as a Muslim

1794
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:20,910
clothing because nothing says
I'm Muslim, like running around

1795
01:47:20,910 --> 01:47:21,330
naked.

1796
01:47:21,630 --> 01:47:24,360
What is your message for the
White House? And what is your

1797
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:28,890
message for ISIS ISIL and terror
cells in making

1798
01:47:29,820 --> 01:47:34,560
if they show their ugly head and
send them to hell? The United

1799
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:39,060
States need to get busy, busy,
busy, they need to take them

1800
01:47:39,060 --> 01:47:43,560
out, take them out. I would like
for him to hit them so hard and

1801
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:47,370
so often, that every time they
hear a propeller on a plane or a

1802
01:47:47,370 --> 01:47:50,850
jet aircraft agent that to
urinate down both legs. When you

1803
01:47:50,850 --> 01:47:53,370
do that, then you've
accomplished a lot. And I think

1804
01:47:53,370 --> 01:47:58,710
General Allenby, Georgia, United
States Marine Corps, I think

1805
01:47:58,710 --> 01:48:01,680
we're going to have if they let
him go, let him do what needs to

1806
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,950
be done. If they'll hit him and
hit him hard and hit them often.

1807
01:48:05,370 --> 01:48:06,390
We need to shut them off.

1808
01:48:07,170 --> 01:48:11,040
They'll be that Sheriff painter,
we thank you for being with Fox

1809
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:15,450
and Friends with a very white
house. Okay,

1810
01:48:15,540 --> 01:48:18,390
so I'm listening to this. And of
course, I'm laughing the what

1811
01:48:18,390 --> 01:48:20,760
the guy saying is ridiculous.
But then like, wait a minute, I

1812
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:25,170
know this jabroni I take you
back to no agenda Show Episode

1813
01:48:25,170 --> 01:48:32,160
650, September 7 2014. That is
now more than halfway. Well,

1814
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:36,000
now, how long ago is that now?
That's more than half a year ago

1815
01:48:36,930 --> 01:48:38,460
when they tried this the first
time.

1816
01:48:38,490 --> 01:48:40,530
So if you live here in New York,
or if you've been here in the

1817
01:48:40,530 --> 01:48:43,890
subway system, and the row
passengers are constantly worn.

1818
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:47,640
If you see something say
something, every one of us has

1819
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:51,510
to be on our toes and one Texas
sheriff says he is ready for

1820
01:48:51,510 --> 01:48:54,960
ISIS. We're joined now by
Sheriff Gary painter of Midland

1821
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:58,440
County, Texas. Good evening,
Shara. Good evening. How are

1822
01:48:58,440 --> 01:49:01,140
you? I'm great. I hope you're
great. Well, you

1823
01:49:01,170 --> 01:49:05,310
it's the same guy with the same
stupid story. They tried it to

1824
01:49:05,310 --> 01:49:05,820
listen to

1825
01:49:05,820 --> 01:49:09,570
want to short it in case of an
attack by ISIS or by any other

1826
01:49:09,570 --> 01:49:11,400
terror group. What's your
biggest concern?

1827
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,300
Well, the fact that they're
already here, that's the biggest

1828
01:49:15,300 --> 01:49:18,630
thing. I've worked the border
for about eight years. Same

1829
01:49:18,630 --> 01:49:22,560
stories on the border that you
can walk across a river from

1830
01:49:22,590 --> 01:49:25,020
Presidio. There's no water in
the river.

1831
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,270
It's exactly the same script,
John.

1832
01:49:28,290 --> 01:49:31,950
This is outrageous. It is
outrageous.

1833
01:49:31,980 --> 01:49:36,660
There's nothing to keep you out.
We've got for 10 to 15 million

1834
01:49:36,660 --> 01:49:39,240
that are undocumented aliens
that are inside the United

1835
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:42,750
States now. And there's no doubt
that have that there have been

1836
01:49:42,750 --> 01:49:46,290
some people coming in that
should not be here that are from

1837
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,410
places other than Mexico or
Hispanics.

1838
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:53,610
So this is disturbing.

1839
01:49:54,990 --> 01:49:57,390
Well, I keep running these
things out and just until they

1840
01:49:57,390 --> 01:50:00,360
take hold until so yeah, until
eventually so yeah. So I was a

1841
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:04,140
lousy spokesperson out day and
Rob, I said, I know I sound

1842
01:50:04,140 --> 01:50:08,160
stupid. Well, let me tell you
about the rivers all dried up.

1843
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,460
And there's all kinds of Qur'an
books all over the place.

1844
01:50:12,060 --> 01:50:15,720
They're here. That's right.
That's right. Well, on the heels

1845
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:22,290
of this, there was a 39 I
believe 39 law enforcement

1846
01:50:22,290 --> 01:50:26,100
officials, I think FBI and other
Homeland Security. I haven't

1847
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:28,530
seen the list. So I don't even
know if it's true or not, was

1848
01:50:28,530 --> 01:50:32,280
published on the website. And
this was apparently done by the

1849
01:50:32,370 --> 01:50:38,010
caliphate, cyber group, or the
ISIS caliphate, cyber something

1850
01:50:38,010 --> 01:50:42,180
rather. The Cyber caliphate is
what its cyber caliphate. Thank

1851
01:50:42,180 --> 01:50:46,380
you. The Cyber caliphate. So who
should we blame this on?

1852
01:50:49,740 --> 01:50:53,040
The Cyber cat Oh, the killer
Hillary Clinton. Oh close.

1853
01:50:53,070 --> 01:50:56,460
CBS News has confirmed that
sensitive information on federal

1854
01:50:56,460 --> 01:51:00,270
law enforcement, including the
FBI has been leaked. The news

1855
01:51:00,270 --> 01:51:03,240
comes one month after ISIS
sympathizers post posted the

1856
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:06,090
names of US military members
online.

1857
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,520
HOMELAND SECURITY CORRESPONDENT
Jeff gates joins us from

1858
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:11,430
Washington. So Jeff, thanks for
being here. What do we exactly

1859
01:51:11,430 --> 01:51:12,240
know about this?

1860
01:51:12,510 --> 01:51:15,060
Well, this is something that law
enforcement officials are

1861
01:51:15,060 --> 01:51:18,150
looking into right now. And it's
something that they became aware

1862
01:51:18,150 --> 01:51:22,410
of yesterday, what we're told,
and what we've seen is that at

1863
01:51:22,410 --> 01:51:28,200
least 39 names and addresses of
senior law enforcement officials

1864
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:31,950
in this country, including the
director of the FBI, and Jay

1865
01:51:31,950 --> 01:51:34,980
Johnson of the Department of
Homeland Security, their

1866
01:51:34,980 --> 01:51:39,930
addresses listed on a website,
it was somehow obtained by the

1867
01:51:39,930 --> 01:51:43,950
person behind this website, or
who posted on the website. And

1868
01:51:43,950 --> 01:51:47,280
now it is out there. And so
investigators are looking into

1869
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:51,750
this. This is similar to what
happened last month when the

1870
01:51:51,780 --> 01:51:55,440
names and addresses of some
members of the military were

1871
01:51:55,440 --> 01:51:58,440
leaked. The Pentagon
investigated that it turns out

1872
01:51:58,440 --> 01:52:03,300
that that was attributed to ISIS
is hacking division or ISIS

1873
01:52:03,300 --> 01:52:06,630
sympathizers. This case is
different investigators believe

1874
01:52:06,630 --> 01:52:11,790
the people or person behind this
case is some sort of right wing

1875
01:52:12,450 --> 01:52:14,760
supervisor or right wing group.

1876
01:52:16,770 --> 01:52:23,520
So ISIS is now supported by
right wing crazies. And how do

1877
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:24,330
we know this?

1878
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:28,890
And I say that because in this
leak there are references to 911

1879
01:52:29,220 --> 01:52:34,080
and the person who posted this
accuses the people on the list

1880
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:36,720
that has been leaked of treason

1881
01:52:36,780 --> 01:52:40,800
There you go, right wing crazies
are now sympathizers of ISIS. It

1882
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:43,320
doesn't get much better than
that. And you know, we can I can

1883
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,990
combine jingles to make their
it's the cyber caliphate. Is

1884
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:47,370
that the name of their outfit?
You said?

1885
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:56,700
Yeah, cyber killer. That's not
bad at all. Not bad. Well, the

1886
01:52:56,700 --> 01:52:59,760
cyber caliphate shut down a
French TV stay. Yeah. So

1887
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:00,990
you have a clip. Good, good.
Good.

1888
01:53:01,049 --> 01:53:05,789
I use j clip last week last
show, and I know. Oh, okay. So I

1889
01:53:05,789 --> 01:53:08,069
didn't bring it over. But
there's a couple other things

1890
01:53:08,069 --> 01:53:10,469
kind of internationally going on
that are interesting. We have a

1891
01:53:10,469 --> 01:53:11,129
cyber attack

1892
01:53:11,549 --> 01:53:17,909
on a Belgian outfit. I'm sorry,
I want to go ahead. I'm gonna

1893
01:53:17,909 --> 01:53:18,269
interrupt.

1894
01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:26,130
I have one thing to play, which
is not directly related to cyber

1895
01:53:26,130 --> 01:53:29,910
caliphate. But But kind of
related to the war on terror.

1896
01:53:30,060 --> 01:53:34,710
This is the data privacy in
Germany clip and this guy that's

1897
01:53:34,710 --> 01:53:38,490
talking is the holder the Eric
Holder is that he's the head of

1898
01:53:38,490 --> 01:53:41,010
the of the government's, you
know,

1899
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:43,230
justice system, Attorney
justice.

1900
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,380
And the guy looks like him
later, but that's beside the

1901
01:53:46,380 --> 01:53:47,700
point. It's just unfortunate.
That's

1902
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:53,910
not saying anything at all. Hey,
man. Okay, play. Well play it.

1903
01:53:53,910 --> 01:53:54,060
Yeah.

1904
01:53:54,570 --> 01:53:58,320
What data privacy is a huge
issue here in Germany. In fact,

1905
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:01,530
Germany is frequently referred
to as the gold standard for

1906
01:54:01,530 --> 01:54:03,540
protecting privacy on the web.

1907
01:54:03,780 --> 01:54:07,260
And that explains why unlike in
most EU countries Germany does

1908
01:54:07,260 --> 01:54:10,470
not currently have a law
allowing massive retention of

1909
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:10,980
data.

1910
01:54:11,430 --> 01:54:14,250
But that could be changing. The
German government is now

1911
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:18,270
proposing limited legislation to
help intelligence agencies

1912
01:54:18,270 --> 01:54:20,550
prevent terrorist attacks.

1913
01:54:22,500 --> 01:54:25,890
Germany's Justice Minister Heiko
moss knows it's an unpopular

1914
01:54:25,890 --> 01:54:29,460
decision. The majority of
Germans oppose data retention.

1915
01:54:30,060 --> 01:54:33,210
But he says he can no longer
ignore the threat from terrorist

1916
01:54:33,210 --> 01:54:36,630
networks. Proposal, compromise,
shuffle

1917
01:54:36,870 --> 01:54:39,750
was good. We want him to create
a balance between security

1918
01:54:39,750 --> 01:54:43,530
interests, on the one hand on
civil rights, the other and

1919
01:54:43,530 --> 01:54:46,350
that's the basis for the
guidelines we presented today

1920
01:54:46,380 --> 01:54:47,220
divide the four

1921
01:54:47,220 --> 01:54:51,510
states. Therefore see retaining
German citizens phone and

1922
01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:55,170
internet usage records for up to
10 weeks. That would be the

1923
01:54:55,170 --> 01:54:59,070
shortest retention time and all
of Europe. security authorities

1924
01:54:59,070 --> 01:55:02,280
could only access The data if
they suspect criminal activity,

1925
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:06,930
and they would need permission
from a judge data that won't be

1926
01:55:06,930 --> 01:55:10,770
saved includes the content of
calls, websites visited and

1927
01:55:10,770 --> 01:55:16,500
emails. Interior Minister Thomas
Tim Azir would have preferred to

1928
01:55:16,500 --> 01:55:21,930
allow security officials access
to more information. But he says

1929
01:55:21,930 --> 01:55:24,990
he's happy just to have some
form of data retention taking

1930
01:55:24,990 --> 01:55:27,780
place. To tell us Mr. Kevin L

1931
01:55:27,780 --> 01:55:31,260
of terrorism and organized crime
is a key issue. That was very

1932
01:55:31,260 --> 01:55:33,690
important both to me and to
security officials,

1933
01:55:34,050 --> 01:55:37,530
permission to burn. After

1934
01:55:37,530 --> 01:55:42,000
four ads, that's why I pushed
for data retention on the home

1935
01:55:42,300 --> 01:55:46,110
to provide us with information
about terrorist networks and

1936
01:55:46,110 --> 01:55:48,060
activity of clear and second,

1937
01:55:49,140 --> 01:55:52,170
the minister has helped to have
a draft law for Parliament soon.

1938
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,020
But they face vehement
resistance from the opposition

1939
01:55:55,020 --> 01:55:58,650
parties who say the plan law is
a violation of the basic right

1940
01:55:58,650 --> 01:55:59,460
to privacy.

1941
01:56:00,210 --> 01:56:02,640
Okay, what's your takeaway from
this? Well, it's

1942
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:05,670
an interesting thing. They, for
one thing, they shouldn't put up

1943
01:56:05,670 --> 01:56:08,730
with this because what terrorism
is taking place in Germany,

1944
01:56:09,060 --> 01:56:11,580
although there was an incident
in Belgium, which couldn't be

1945
01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:14,190
stopped anyway. And they are
they already retain records

1946
01:56:14,190 --> 01:56:18,330
there. But he slips in the word
just out of the blue just before

1947
01:56:18,330 --> 01:56:22,980
the end. He says terrorism and
organized crime. Ah, and they

1948
01:56:22,980 --> 01:56:25,800
slipped it in very, very you
didn't hear I didn't hear it?

1949
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:29,130
No. Yeah, very suddenly slips it
in. And that's what this is all

1950
01:56:29,130 --> 01:56:32,760
about. This is the Old God is so
much work to bust these guys.

1951
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:35,790
Let's put the set up a dragnet.
And we get them some other way.

1952
01:56:35,790 --> 01:56:40,260
We just add, let's use terrorism
as an excuse, as usual. What

1953
01:56:40,260 --> 01:56:41,460
we're doing in this country?

1954
01:56:42,420 --> 01:56:44,400
Yes. And people will be all

1955
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:46,350
in? Oh, yeah. Because of
terrorism.

1956
01:56:47,100 --> 01:56:51,780
And a reminder, going back to
the beginning of the show, when

1957
01:56:51,780 --> 01:56:58,860
you let other people, certainly
a government be fully in charge

1958
01:56:58,890 --> 01:57:03,810
of your privacy, your security,
your food, your shelter, your

1959
01:57:03,810 --> 01:57:07,200
anything else, the primary
needs, you become a lazy,

1960
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:13,350
complacent, blubbering mess of
flesh. Because you got nothing

1961
01:57:13,350 --> 01:57:14,040
better to do,

1962
01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:15,540
check and Facebook.

1963
01:57:16,620 --> 01:57:21,780
Oh, by the way, cool article
about Facebook. Here it is this

1964
01:57:21,780 --> 01:57:31,230
is bring this up for a second.
So there was a group of

1965
01:57:31,230 --> 01:57:34,290
developers, I'm reading verbatim
notice the curious amount of

1966
01:57:34,290 --> 01:57:38,130
activity on Facebook chat. I'm
not I'm not sure what that is. I

1967
01:57:38,130 --> 01:57:41,400
certainly don't chat on
Facebook. I guess it's just the

1968
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:46,710
instant message this thing.
Pulling at the thread, it says

1969
01:57:46,710 --> 01:57:50,250
here, they discovered a
mysterious company, known as

1970
01:57:50,250 --> 01:57:56,970
Recorded Future, was accessing
the chat. So they were chatting

1971
01:57:56,970 --> 01:58:02,850
from one Facebook account to
another. And they I guess the

1972
01:58:02,850 --> 01:58:06,000
developers were integrating
something into that. But they

1973
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:09,030
saw besides the two IP
addresses, the sender and the

1974
01:58:09,030 --> 01:58:14,250
receiver, they saw 10 other IP
addresses accessing this chat.

1975
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:19,410
And it's this outfit called
Recorded Future. And Recorded

1976
01:58:19,410 --> 01:58:24,330
Future is a cybersecurity firm.
And they are funded by Oh, here

1977
01:58:24,330 --> 01:58:26,970
it comes. First of all, they're
funded by Google, which is cool,

1978
01:58:27,450 --> 01:58:30,000
because it could be some
espionage going on there, but

1979
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:33,180
also by acuto. And of course, my
favorite company, which is the

1980
01:58:33,180 --> 01:58:37,650
CIA's venture capital firm.
Right, and they are spying on

1981
01:58:37,650 --> 01:58:38,370
your chats.

1982
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:43,920
Yeah, they're probably
downloading them, keeping them

1983
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:45,450
to some database. Of course,

1984
01:58:45,450 --> 01:58:48,780
of course. But that is, I think,
clearly being

1985
01:58:48,810 --> 01:58:51,120
allowed to get arrested for a
parking ticket. Next thing you

1986
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:56,220
know, you're up first edition.
Yep. Yep. So when you send those

1987
01:58:56,220 --> 01:59:00,000
chats and Facebook and you're
saying hi, you know, and Obama's

1988
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:04,110
sucks, he stinks. To have that.
You can't say anything. Don't

1989
01:59:04,110 --> 01:59:08,490
say anything. Just say Oh, Kim
Kardashian looks fat. Yes.

1990
01:59:09,420 --> 01:59:12,900
Well, I think that will be a dog
that you can't say those things.

1991
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:16,230
Can't say hate speech. Yeah.

1992
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:18,240
Random curry.

1993
01:59:18,929 --> 01:59:20,249
Curry. Now.

1994
01:59:21,059 --> 01:59:24,239
That's what's gonna happen. Yes,
it's very bleak.

1995
01:59:24,870 --> 01:59:26,370
Yeah, you might as well just,

1996
01:59:27,180 --> 01:59:30,060
I don't want people to do I
don't want people to be all, but

1997
01:59:30,060 --> 01:59:31,830
I don't want to depress you
know,

1998
01:59:32,430 --> 01:59:37,200
it's funny to watch. Just kick
back, relax. Watch your friends

1999
01:59:37,230 --> 01:59:43,440
melt into a blubbering blob of
flesh on Facebook. And by the

2000
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:47,970
way, that is how you will sound
the

2001
01:59:48,990 --> 01:59:54,360
news that Google busted by the
EU. Let's get look. This fit

2002
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:56,820
does our minor tech news today.
Ah,

2003
01:59:56,850 --> 01:59:59,460
do you want me to read that we
know we don't need to do Yeah,

2004
01:59:59,460 --> 01:59:59,700
just

2005
01:59:59,700 --> 02:00:00,210
play the Today,

2006
02:00:01,380 --> 02:00:03,120
I hear ya the European

2007
02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:07,440
Union charge Google today with
violating anti monopoly laws. It

2008
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:10,740
is the latest move in a five
year legal battle, and it could

2009
02:00:10,740 --> 02:00:14,760
lead to billions of dollars in
fines. The EU's competition

2010
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:18,270
commissioner said Google uses
its dominance over internet

2011
02:00:18,270 --> 02:00:21,030
searches to promote its own
services.

2012
02:00:21,510 --> 02:00:26,490
Our investigation so far has
shown that when a consumer

2013
02:00:26,580 --> 02:00:31,170
enters a shopping related query
in Google's search engine,

2014
02:00:31,770 --> 02:00:35,280
Google's comparison shopping
product is systematically

2015
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:39,840
displayed prominence at the top
of the search results.

2016
02:00:41,340 --> 02:00:45,540
Wow, I wish I had something for
that. I wish I had a you know

2017
02:00:45,540 --> 02:00:48,660
like a shocked I don't have to
shocked

2018
02:00:48,750 --> 02:00:52,200
at Google's cheating. Who knew?

2019
02:00:52,410 --> 02:00:54,810
I'm shocked indeed. Well, I can
always use this one.

2020
02:00:56,610 --> 02:01:00,330
Shocked shocked I am to find
that John Fletcher screaming in

2021
02:01:00,330 --> 02:01:00,960
here you go.

2022
02:01:01,980 --> 02:01:07,140
Now we have an offer from the
shocked guy. Yeah, we do. And

2023
02:01:07,140 --> 02:01:09,570
we're gonna put it in play.
We're going to end the Fletcher

2024
02:01:09,570 --> 02:01:16,560
screaming donation segment on
May Day. And we're going to play

2025
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:20,700
the clips on Cinco Demayo. Oh,
nine. That's it. We're gonna

2026
02:01:20,700 --> 02:01:25,410
move to another program, which
will be the shocked guy. Yeah,

2027
02:01:25,410 --> 02:01:31,740
who can do I'm shocked you're
getting a phone call. With all

2028
02:01:31,740 --> 02:01:37,620
those sources with that, with
that sort of thing, so cool.

2029
02:01:37,740 --> 02:01:40,260
Talking about that in the next
newsletter.

2030
02:01:41,490 --> 02:01:44,940
I'm going to show my move by
Jonah to no agenda. Imagine all

2031
02:01:44,940 --> 02:01:47,520
the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

2032
02:01:56,130 --> 02:01:58,650
all right. We do have a few
people to thank for show 713

2033
02:01:59,340 --> 02:02:06,120
including, hey, Soos Murielle in
Miami, Florida. $123. And he's

2034
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:10,200
going to put in his brother's
name Joshua. He's getting

2035
02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:13,320
married this Saturday and I want
to wish him the best. And give

2036
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:17,070
him a job karma put that at the
end. He is in need of a job.

2037
02:02:17,460 --> 02:02:21,330
Getting married with a job it's
challenging. Yeah, the wife

2038
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:24,990
the wife may have a job Mr.
Sexist

2039
02:02:25,019 --> 02:02:28,499
Oh, that could be that could be
okay. Why not? Our sin

2040
02:02:28,499 --> 02:02:37,379
Brzezinski and did co uk $111.11
He sent His pronunciation to

2041
02:02:37,379 --> 02:02:40,769
you. They didn't include the
some other Polish names. Well,

2042
02:02:40,769 --> 02:02:44,879
it's a Polish name so it's not
why it could be Brzezinski. This

2043
02:02:44,879 --> 02:02:49,139
one looks like he felt he is
filling up his douche bag and he

2044
02:02:49,139 --> 02:02:52,799
had to give us some some
compensation. Chad Christian in

2045
02:02:52,799 --> 02:02:54,749
Erie, Colorado. $100 Craig

2046
02:02:55,230 --> 02:02:57,840
that's bad. Chad Hold on. Hello
bad Chad. This is the guy who

2047
02:02:57,840 --> 02:02:59,670
right this is a birthday shout
out for

2048
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:00,810
a birthday shout out.

2049
02:03:00,990 --> 02:03:02,130
I'd wait a minute. Yeah,

2050
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:07,770
I'm down at the birthday list.
For gauge. Oh, cool. And cry.

2051
02:03:07,770 --> 02:03:15,390
That's a Chad bad chat in Erie,
Colorado. $100 Craig Allen

2052
02:03:15,390 --> 02:03:21,240
Harrison in Wichita, Kansas.
$100. Roberto Mendez in Flowery

2053
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:26,850
Branch Georgia. It's an
interesting he said he sent the

2054
02:03:26,850 --> 02:03:29,610
12 bucks in for commiseration.
But this one's for the road. I'm

2055
02:03:29,610 --> 02:03:35,070
visiting Accra, Ghana. We have a
we have a night in Accra, Ghana,

2056
02:03:35,070 --> 02:03:38,850
who I think stop listening to
the show. To bet we can hook

2057
02:03:38,850 --> 02:03:41,640
these two guys up. I'll see if I
can do that with

2058
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:46,380
when it's so discouraging for me
personally. When when we lose

2059
02:03:46,380 --> 02:03:47,550
someone like that. You know?

2060
02:03:48,299 --> 02:03:50,939
Yeah, man overboard.

2061
02:03:50,969 --> 02:03:54,839
You go across the ring. Yeah.

2062
02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:03,720
Okay, where was I? Okay, you're
I am. That's Roberto. Jason Kirk

2063
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:09,330
in Williamsport, Pennsylvania at
$6. And he had something to say.

2064
02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:09,900
Thanks for

2065
02:04:10,740 --> 02:04:12,870
Thanks. Are we now reading now?

2066
02:04:13,980 --> 02:04:16,230
Anybody donating so I'm going to
read once. Okay. All right.

2067
02:04:16,350 --> 02:04:26,400
Nicole Nicole devoran a church
with the Mormon Church, maybe

2068
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:30,480
Daisy Hill, Queensland,
Australia, James Shea and

2069
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:36,960
Bruceton Mills, West Virginia.
Gabriel? Shabbat Bazian. Which

2070
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:42,000
is I think in Armenian name in
6666. In San Francisco,

2071
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:48,150
California. No, Isaac. P. Joe, I
think and he's the one who does

2072
02:04:48,150 --> 02:04:51,540
the shocked I'm shocked. Oh,
nice. And he reads the

2073
02:04:51,540 --> 02:04:55,050
following. I'm off Boehner roll
with some special foreplay for

2074
02:04:55,050 --> 02:04:58,710
this to 416 Sure. I'm popping up
with $64 for which blah, blah,

2075
02:04:58,710 --> 02:05:02,370
blah. Anyone who donate. This is
the number he's come up with

2076
02:05:02,700 --> 02:05:06,390
anyone who donates $256 to the
show which is four to the fourth

2077
02:05:06,390 --> 02:05:10,650
power. We'll get a custom I'm
shocked green tone you play a

2078
02:05:10,650 --> 02:05:11,400
couple of his.

2079
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:14,940
Okay. Let's do this one here.

2080
02:05:14,970 --> 02:05:18,720
I'm shocked shocked to find
value for value going on here.

2081
02:05:18,780 --> 02:05:21,540
I'm shocked shocked to find that
climate data is being

2082
02:05:21,540 --> 02:05:24,870
manipulated around here. I'm
shocked shocked to find first

2083
02:05:24,870 --> 02:05:28,230
amendment violations going on in
here. I'm shocked shocked to

2084
02:05:28,230 --> 02:05:31,320
find six week cycles going on
around here. There you go.

2085
02:05:31,740 --> 02:05:35,730
Okay. You get the idea. Greg
dash net will put a special

2086
02:05:35,730 --> 02:05:38,820
number up in the bay in the
newsletter the details. Craig

2087
02:05:38,820 --> 02:05:44,160
dash now and Ascot Vale,
Victoria, Australia. $63 lucid

2088
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:51,960
map in Bristol. Tennessee is
5678 Sir Kevin Payne in

2089
02:05:51,960 --> 02:05:59,100
Richmond, Virginia $50.69 As
usual, Keith Karn Carlisle is in

2090
02:05:59,100 --> 02:06:02,370
Carlisle in Centralia,
Washington 5039 and the rest of

2091
02:06:02,370 --> 02:06:07,440
these are $50 donations
including Andy Kluber. Parts

2092
02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:13,260
Unknown. Tanya is in our Daymond
John California. Whoa, do you do

2093
02:06:13,260 --> 02:06:17,100
have a birthday shout out to her
daughter, and she was born on

2094
02:06:17,100 --> 02:06:19,770
April 15. Tax Day. Isn't that
interesting?

2095
02:06:20,430 --> 02:06:25,500
Eva, is it our EVA? It'd be Eva.
I think it's Eva. Yeah.

2096
02:06:26,070 --> 02:06:27,150
Did I say ABA? No,

2097
02:06:27,150 --> 02:06:29,250
I'm questioning I didn't know.
No, it's

2098
02:06:29,250 --> 02:06:33,960
gotta be Ava. She lives here in
Richmond, John camp and antlers

2099
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:40,110
Oklahoma $50. Ama Tav. hogere
Hajra. In Dale Ville, Virginia,

2100
02:06:40,590 --> 02:06:44,580
the Jerome Rossen, Gwynn Oak,
Maryland, Patrick Thomas and

2101
02:06:44,580 --> 02:06:49,560
Petworth West Sussex, UK. Eric
do tro and Flint, Michigan.

2102
02:06:50,220 --> 02:06:53,400
Chris Lewinsky is Sir Chris I
believe in Sherwood Park,

2103
02:06:53,400 --> 02:07:00,360
Alberta, where the money is $50
and Sue Mita. Aurora in Breyer

2104
02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:07,020
in brining baton via
Pennsylvania somewhere. And

2105
02:07:07,020 --> 02:07:13,710
finally, Dwayne blow in Calgary,
Alberta another money. City.

2106
02:07:14,220 --> 02:07:17,340
Mike Westerfield, sir Mike
Westerfield, $50 Patricia

2107
02:07:17,340 --> 02:07:21,510
Worthington, Miami, Florida,
Brandon sev live in Parts

2108
02:07:21,510 --> 02:07:25,980
Unknown. And finally, last but
not least, day melody man. By

2109
02:07:25,980 --> 02:07:28,200
the way, everyone named melody
is always really attractive.

2110
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:33,180
It's very strange. in Ringgold,
Louisiana and that's concludes

2111
02:07:33,180 --> 02:07:37,530
our donations for show seven of
one three, we want to thank

2112
02:07:37,710 --> 02:07:40,950
everybody else and remind them
to go to

2113
02:07:40,980 --> 02:07:44,670
devorah.org/in a.

2114
02:07:52,350 --> 02:07:55,470
We say happy birthday to Patrick
Hamilton to keep truckin keep

2115
02:07:55,470 --> 02:07:59,790
Carly says Happy Birthday to
Diana choristers of Tumwater

2116
02:07:59,790 --> 02:08:03,930
Virginia or Washington
celebrating on the 17th and

2117
02:08:03,930 --> 02:08:06,990
Tonya foster of course happy
birthday to her daughter as

2118
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:12,540
April 15. Tax Day and bad Chad
Christian from Colorado. Who of

2119
02:08:12,540 --> 02:08:16,800
course we use our hosts during
the hot pockets. Tour the second

2120
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:21,930
tour. Happy birthday to his son,
Gage Henry from your uncle's

2121
02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:25,860
uncle Adam Uncle John for today
Happy Birthday from all the best

2122
02:08:25,860 --> 02:08:30,990
podcast in the universe. No nice
things No, nuttin,

2123
02:08:31,140 --> 02:08:35,940
watch you know, I went I took to
soar to the sharpening place and

2124
02:08:35,940 --> 02:08:39,030
I had expedited service
otherwise it wouldn't be back

2125
02:08:39,030 --> 02:08:42,780
until like next Monday. Well
utilize scripts but I did

2126
02:08:42,780 --> 02:08:45,510
surface and we got screwed on a
deal. You got screwed on the

2127
02:08:45,510 --> 02:08:48,120
deal. It's called an instant
night. We have an instant right?

2128
02:08:48,150 --> 02:08:50,100
No. Here's the

2129
02:08:50,100 --> 02:08:55,770
jobs karma that was requested
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for

2130
02:08:55,770 --> 02:08:56,400
jobs.

2131
02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:04,290
There was an interesting story,
just as we were talking about

2132
02:09:05,070 --> 02:09:10,380
the idiocy that's going on these
days about and there's a great

2133
02:09:10,380 --> 02:09:14,550
term in here. And I'm not quite
sure this one wonder this take

2134
02:09:14,550 --> 02:09:17,760
place in the in the clip where
this happened. I just play and I

2135
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:19,290
will respond to this race

2136
02:09:19,290 --> 02:09:22,440
statement from Montgomery County
Child Protective Services today

2137
02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:26,400
did little to call the shockwave
surrounding an incident. With

2138
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:30,270
two local children taken into
custody last night the six and

2139
02:09:30,270 --> 02:09:33,330
10 year olds have gained
worldwide notoriety because

2140
02:09:33,330 --> 02:09:37,020
their parents allow them to be
free range which means they can

2141
02:09:37,020 --> 02:09:39,900
walk together around their
neighborhood without an adult.

2142
02:09:40,139 --> 02:09:44,519
Now, first of all, free range
children. I didn't know this was

2143
02:09:44,519 --> 02:09:45,929
a term I'm loving it.

2144
02:09:46,469 --> 02:09:50,009
Because funny you say that
because everybody this is one of

2145
02:09:50,009 --> 02:09:52,799
those cost celebrities that is
usually on the right wing talk

2146
02:09:52,799 --> 02:09:57,599
shows and all the TV and Fox.
They all use the term I'd never

2147
02:09:57,599 --> 02:09:59,969
heard it before. Parents
apparently invented the term

2148
02:09:59,999 --> 02:10:02,339
from Walmart, there's a
movement. If you listen to some

2149
02:10:02,339 --> 02:10:06,569
reports, there's a movement in
the country of these adamant

2150
02:10:06,569 --> 02:10:09,749
parents who believe that their
children should be able to walk

2151
02:10:09,749 --> 02:10:12,029
around the neighborhood by
themselves or be in a park by

2152
02:10:12,029 --> 02:10:16,439
themselves. Yes. And they but
the cops say no. Yeah, let's

2153
02:10:16,439 --> 02:10:17,849
listen to the rest of the poor
and we'll discuss

2154
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:21,360
every McCarren broke this story
and she joins us this evening

2155
02:10:21,390 --> 02:10:22,500
from Silver Spring.

2156
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:24,900
I can't believe we're going
through this again. And

2157
02:10:24,900 --> 02:10:28,410
emotional Danielle may TV late
last night after her two

2158
02:10:28,410 --> 02:10:31,620
children were finally returned
to her by Child Protective

2159
02:10:31,620 --> 02:10:32,340
Services.

2160
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:37,650
Well, the policeman said, we
will give you a ride home bone,

2161
02:10:37,650 --> 02:10:41,760
we're like two blocks away. So
he got into the car and then

2162
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:46,680
about two and a half hours
later. Instead he bring us here

2163
02:10:46,770 --> 02:10:49,950
10 year old Rafi and six year
old Devorah had been playing at

2164
02:10:49,950 --> 02:10:54,840
the silver spring Park and we're
walking home. But at 4:55pm

2165
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:58,620
police received a call asking
officers to check on the

2166
02:10:58,620 --> 02:10:59,910
children's welfare.

2167
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:02,670
Somebody called 911. The police
called CPS and they decided to

2168
02:11:02,670 --> 02:11:04,410
bring the kids here and they
didn't call us

2169
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:08,730
CPS finally called the main team
three hours later, when they

2170
02:11:08,730 --> 02:11:11,430
were frantically searching for
their missing children.

2171
02:11:11,460 --> 02:11:14,430
Andrea, thank you. The main
teams had to sign a safety plan

2172
02:11:14,430 --> 02:11:18,210
with CPS last night to get their
children back and it orders them

2173
02:11:18,210 --> 02:11:20,820
never to leave their children
unaccompanied.

2174
02:11:20,850 --> 02:11:23,700
That's the part that's
disturbing. A safety plan.

2175
02:11:26,850 --> 02:11:28,920
Yeah, the

2176
02:11:28,980 --> 02:11:32,580
so these kids are six and tender
together. And I don't want to

2177
02:11:32,580 --> 02:11:37,020
sound like you know when I was a
kid, but when I was a kid when I

2178
02:11:37,020 --> 02:11:41,070
was six, I'd be out roaming
around and it's I don't believe

2179
02:11:41,070 --> 02:11:44,850
that the world has gotten so
dangerous that kids can't walk

2180
02:11:44,850 --> 02:11:48,060
alone anymore. Certainly 10 year
old. And when it was time for me

2181
02:11:48,060 --> 02:11:51,510
to come home. I hope you have
your instrument near you. Do you

2182
02:11:51,510 --> 02:11:54,480
know how and I knew it was time
for me to come home. Even if the

2183
02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:57,600
street lights weren't on yet,
which was also a signal. My mom

2184
02:11:57,600 --> 02:12:01,410
had a slide whistle and she'd do
a boson whistle. He do a boson

2185
02:12:01,410 --> 02:12:01,800
whistle.

2186
02:12:02,250 --> 02:12:06,150
I can't find my slide whistle. I
can I can actually I have a real

2187
02:12:06,150 --> 02:12:08,970
boson. Do you have it there?
Yeah, I don't have it in front

2188
02:12:08,970 --> 02:12:14,160
of me. Sorry. All right, maybe.
Yeah, that was pretty bad. They

2189
02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:19,800
can do? Well, when I was in the
third grade

2190
02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:23,370
how's it going to do

2191
02:12:29,850 --> 02:12:35,490
did a better job than that?
Anyway, when I was in the third

2192
02:12:35,490 --> 02:12:40,020
grade, I'd be nine. And I was
would commonly go with a couple

2193
02:12:40,020 --> 02:12:46,140
of my friends and there's nine
euros and bicycle from from

2194
02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:51,090
within the woods now Fremont, it
was Centerville, then to Niles

2195
02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:53,400
just kind of constant, we'd
always go there through the

2196
02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:54,990
cherry fields and all the rest
by the way,

2197
02:12:55,019 --> 02:12:58,259
we'd be making fires, we'd be
getting into doing all kinds of

2198
02:12:58,259 --> 02:13:01,259
stuff going to construction
sites, rock fights,

2199
02:13:01,440 --> 02:13:04,380
and when I was I lived in
Chicago when I was 10. And we

2200
02:13:04,380 --> 02:13:08,250
would just go everywhere in the
in the elevated the you know,

2201
02:13:08,250 --> 02:13:11,910
and it was not a big deal and
nobody thought much about it.

2202
02:13:12,390 --> 02:13:16,800
And now these this 10 year old
can't go to the park by himself

2203
02:13:16,830 --> 02:13:17,940
or you can't make no

2204
02:13:17,970 --> 02:13:21,840
no and it's you have to sign a
safety order. What is this? This

2205
02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:23,070
is not okay. I

2206
02:13:23,130 --> 02:13:25,830
mean, this was I didn't expect
to really talk about this, but

2207
02:13:25,860 --> 02:13:30,810
this is just more moronic
activity by law enforcement, the

2208
02:13:30,810 --> 02:13:37,530
United States. But I think it's
I think you got to be 20 to be

2209
02:13:37,530 --> 02:13:38,250
by yourself.

2210
02:13:40,020 --> 02:13:43,140
Well, it's also it's the it's
the other people I'm gonna call

2211
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:48,960
Child Protective Services. But
it's just as nutty as calling

2212
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:52,770
your free range kids. Free Range
kid.

2213
02:13:54,090 --> 02:13:55,170
Funny all the kids

2214
02:13:55,170 --> 02:13:56,100
can do these days.

2215
02:13:56,580 --> 02:13:59,280
It's good social. That's all

2216
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:03,060
you can do. Stay at home and
just sit on Facebook and get

2217
02:14:03,060 --> 02:14:05,010
social and meltaway to a blog.

2218
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:06,480
Get a big fat butt.

2219
02:14:06,540 --> 02:14:10,380
That's right. That's right. That
is right. All right, we

2220
02:14:10,380 --> 02:14:15,510
shouldn't be whines down Johnny
Boy because Because yeah, just

2221
02:14:15,540 --> 02:14:18,930
donations low. I gotta catch my
plane.

2222
02:14:19,590 --> 02:14:22,710
You got a plane to catch I do I
have a late start.

2223
02:14:22,740 --> 02:14:26,220
Did you know about this Walmart
closing near you or near us? San

2224
02:14:26,220 --> 02:14:29,760
Francisco big Walmart. I don't
know the big Walmart in San

2225
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:33,360
Francisco something is up with
the Walmart's

2226
02:14:33,390 --> 02:14:36,330
Yes. Somebody said that sent us
a note saying they look into

2227
02:14:36,330 --> 02:14:36,510
this

2228
02:14:36,540 --> 02:14:40,110
issue extends way beyond this
brand and Walmart that is close.

2229
02:14:40,110 --> 02:14:44,010
Take a look at this five
Walmart's across the nation hit

2230
02:14:44,010 --> 02:14:47,700
we're closed Monday for months
at a time because of these major

2231
02:14:47,730 --> 02:14:48,630
plumbing. All right.

2232
02:14:49,110 --> 02:14:50,070
Did you know about this?

2233
02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:52,680
I've read about it. Yeah, that
we've got a Walmart in

2234
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:56,130
Livingston, Texas. We've got one
in Midland, Texas, Tulsa,

2235
02:14:56,130 --> 02:15:00,120
Oklahoma. And of course we have
this one near Los Angeles. as

2236
02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:03,360
well as branded Walmart. I
talked to Hillsborough County

2237
02:15:03,390 --> 02:15:07,350
and Walmart to get answers about
why these plumbing repairs will

2238
02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:10,440
take so long. After a day
illusion of shoppers lined up

2239
02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:13,830
for hours to get deals Monday, I
just tried to go in the door and

2240
02:15:13,830 --> 02:15:18,120
it's like it's closed. Hundreds
were turned away at the Walmart

2241
02:15:18,120 --> 02:15:21,180
superstore on East Brandon
Boulevard Tuesday where they

2242
02:15:21,180 --> 02:15:25,320
found door shut and locked. The
pharmacy guarded by security,

2243
02:15:25,470 --> 02:15:26,520
all because

2244
02:15:26,550 --> 02:15:30,240
and we were told that they were
closing for plumbing issues.

2245
02:15:30,270 --> 02:15:30,600
Yeah,

2246
02:15:30,630 --> 02:15:33,510
a Walmart spokesperson says
it's, quote, ongoing plumbing

2247
02:15:33,510 --> 02:15:37,110
issues that will require
extensive repairs, closing the

2248
02:15:37,110 --> 02:15:39,750
store for four to six months.

2249
02:15:41,340 --> 02:15:46,020
That so that they're closing on
the same day claiming plumbing

2250
02:15:46,020 --> 02:15:50,880
issues for four months. That's
one thing what I found fun is

2251
02:15:51,210 --> 02:15:54,630
how the stupid slaves are
confused. Oh, there's no

2252
02:15:54,630 --> 02:15:58,650
Walmart, what am I going to do?
Where am I gonna get my food and

2253
02:15:58,650 --> 02:16:02,310
my stuff? And bro, I gotta do.
This is an outrage the

2254
02:16:02,310 --> 02:16:03,660
government should step in.

2255
02:16:07,320 --> 02:16:09,090
On the next show, we're gonna
have to talk a little bit about

2256
02:16:09,090 --> 02:16:14,820
this Iranian deal. Yo, because
it seems to be falling apart in

2257
02:16:14,820 --> 02:16:18,630
some funny way that as though
was planned to fall apart?

2258
02:16:20,130 --> 02:16:23,460
Well as Yeah, I think wasn't
this exactly what we discussed

2259
02:16:23,460 --> 02:16:26,490
as the whole plan? Is the
President even telegraph

2260
02:16:26,610 --> 02:16:30,120
telegraph by saying, Oh, don't
let those stupid Republicans go

2261
02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:32,880
and ruin the deal. Don't let him
ruin it. It's gonna it's a big

2262
02:16:33,210 --> 02:16:35,460
political election talking
point. That's all that it's

2263
02:16:35,700 --> 02:16:38,760
promised the Democrats are all
in with stopping it to at least

2264
02:16:38,760 --> 02:16:43,050
with the Senate. Republican
thing?

2265
02:16:43,530 --> 02:16:46,260
Well, maybe it backfired. Maybe
it was a strategy from Valerie

2266
02:16:46,260 --> 02:16:47,580
Jarrett and it backfired.

2267
02:16:47,670 --> 02:16:52,200
She's gonna be that would make
no sense. She runs the place.

2268
02:16:52,260 --> 02:16:53,910
Well, I'm What am I saying she
does run the

2269
02:16:53,910 --> 02:16:56,910
place. Hello, V. J 44.

2270
02:16:57,570 --> 02:17:00,180
Already, there's some
interesting commentary, which is

2271
02:17:00,180 --> 02:17:03,840
going to annoy everybody, which
is the clip I have is the

2272
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:08,190
Iranian leaders, the great
leaders. Coming up with this.

2273
02:17:08,610 --> 02:17:10,590
We'll just play this clip. And
you'll see what I'm talking

2274
02:17:10,590 --> 02:17:10,830
about.

2275
02:17:10,889 --> 02:17:14,849
Iran's President today dismissed
US Congressional pressure over a

2276
02:17:14,849 --> 02:17:18,269
potential nuclear deal. That's
after President Obama accepted a

2277
02:17:18,269 --> 02:17:22,409
compromise giving the House and
Senate a say Hassan Rouhani told

2278
02:17:22,409 --> 02:17:25,439
the crowd of 1000s that his
government deals with world

2279
02:17:25,439 --> 02:17:29,609
leaders, not lawmakers. Hmm.

2280
02:17:31,049 --> 02:17:36,059
We don't deal with the way your
system actually operates as a

2281
02:17:36,059 --> 02:17:40,799
constitutional democracy, that
they don't, is that none. And so

2282
02:17:40,799 --> 02:17:44,429
the way we do things here, and
we do our top guy talks to your

2283
02:17:44,429 --> 02:17:47,789
top guy, the two of them make a
deal. And that is going to be

2284
02:17:48,389 --> 02:17:50,969
it's gonna knock that doesn't
work. And it's going to cause

2285
02:17:50,969 --> 02:17:51,629
issues.

2286
02:17:51,749 --> 02:17:55,709
Well, it does relate directly to
the Cotton letter, who said you

2287
02:17:55,709 --> 02:17:58,919
can't deal with our top leader
because he's an Indian giver?

2288
02:18:00,629 --> 02:18:02,579
didn't exactly say that. But
that's I think that's what they

2289
02:18:02,579 --> 02:18:05,339
were saying. There's not you
can't be trusted, this guy who

2290
02:18:05,339 --> 02:18:07,319
can't be trusted is no good. No
good.

2291
02:18:08,219 --> 02:18:10,979
This is a very interesting
political football is being

2292
02:18:10,979 --> 02:18:15,869
passed around and we have to
analyze it further. Also, we

2293
02:18:15,869 --> 02:18:19,379
talked about the new Associated
Press report about the Veterans

2294
02:18:19,379 --> 02:18:21,779
Administration not doing the
job. This may be part of a

2295
02:18:21,779 --> 02:18:25,949
concerted effort, which I think
will fail. But Rachel Maddow

2296
02:18:25,949 --> 02:18:29,999
seems to have picked up because
of some leaked tapes at a recent

2297
02:18:29,999 --> 02:18:33,899
meeting on this possibility,
which I think is an interesting.

2298
02:18:34,829 --> 02:18:40,229
It's an interesting, paranoid
prospect that she developed on

2299
02:18:40,229 --> 02:18:42,689
her show, and I don't like her
show, and I don't necessarily

2300
02:18:42,689 --> 02:18:44,369
like her. But listen to this.

2301
02:18:44,910 --> 02:18:47,970
We have intentionally broaden
the debate to include big

2302
02:18:47,970 --> 02:18:52,530
government dysfunction generally
concerned veterans for America

2303
02:18:52,530 --> 02:18:55,200
and the Koch brothers network
and the Republican presidential

2304
02:18:55,200 --> 02:18:58,980
candidates. They're taking an
issue that used to be an

2305
02:18:58,980 --> 02:19:01,830
absolute third rail. But now
when they find themselves

2306
02:19:01,830 --> 02:19:04,320
pushing on this issue, they are
pushing on an open door, in part

2307
02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:07,590
because it is a door that they
opened themselves, the VA is in

2308
02:19:07,590 --> 02:19:10,440
such bad shape. And none of its
traditional vendors, defenders

2309
02:19:10,440 --> 02:19:15,060
feels like they can stand up for
the status quo. Even though and

2310
02:19:15,060 --> 02:19:17,790
this is key, the VA Health Care
System consistently gets better

2311
02:19:17,790 --> 02:19:21,030
ratings than the private health
care system on just about every

2312
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:23,190
metric, not just better
outcomes, but higher

2313
02:19:23,190 --> 02:19:27,870
satisfaction rates among their
patients. privatizing the VA,

2314
02:19:27,900 --> 02:19:31,890
I'm telling you is a sleeper
issue for the 2016 campaign. The

2315
02:19:31,890 --> 02:19:36,180
Republican candidates are lining
up in support. And the Democrats

2316
02:19:36,210 --> 02:19:37,470
and supporters of the VA

2317
02:19:37,500 --> 02:19:41,340
Wait a minute. She says
privatizing the VA. This is her

2318
02:19:41,340 --> 02:19:42,690
thesis, Oh, interesting.

2319
02:19:42,810 --> 02:19:47,070
There's no evidence of this and
the Republicans aren't lining up

2320
02:19:47,070 --> 02:19:50,760
in any sort of support that I
can see. And there's no reason

2321
02:19:50,760 --> 02:19:53,970
to defend it because there's
nothing going on. But she sees

2322
02:19:53,970 --> 02:19:57,180
this as happening. And it's
actually I think, a pretty good

2323
02:19:57,180 --> 02:20:01,200
thesis based on that last report
that You know the VA is screwing

2324
02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:03,660
up worse than they were before
and this plant some of these

2325
02:20:03,660 --> 02:20:06,540
stores so and the Koch brothers
being involved because they'd

2326
02:20:06,540 --> 02:20:11,130
like to privatize everything
that's the way they brought I

2327
02:20:11,130 --> 02:20:14,610
just thought it was in unique
perspective that yes was worth

2328
02:20:14,610 --> 02:20:17,250
talking about except for one
thing did you use at the end of

2329
02:20:17,250 --> 02:20:17,760
it no here

2330
02:20:17,939 --> 02:20:21,419
not appear to have any strategy
to respond to what is happening

2331
02:20:21,419 --> 02:20:24,929
on the right, there is a
concerted but as yet low profile

2332
02:20:24,929 --> 02:20:28,619
push from the right right now to
kill the VA.

2333
02:20:30,480 --> 02:20:33,300
All right, so now she never gets
a spokesperson on she admits

2334
02:20:33,300 --> 02:20:36,540
from the VA to talk about any of
these things. This time, she got

2335
02:20:36,540 --> 02:20:42,420
the head of the VA to come on
the show she the guy comes on.

2336
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:47,580
And he has for all projects.
What he does is he he throws a

2337
02:20:47,580 --> 02:20:52,350
wet blanket over this theory, at
the extremely wet blanket by

2338
02:20:52,440 --> 02:20:55,290
talking about how big it is just
getting bigger, and they're

2339
02:20:55,290 --> 02:20:58,230
going to opens 27 new hospitals
that are fixing all these

2340
02:20:58,230 --> 02:21:00,810
problems, and all the guy sounds
like he's really got his act

2341
02:21:00,810 --> 02:21:05,610
together. And he fraught when I
could tell. Everything she said

2342
02:21:05,610 --> 02:21:09,990
is just from his perspective is
bullcrap. And he outlined that

2343
02:21:09,990 --> 02:21:12,810
but at the very end of it, she
comes back saying, I don't know.

2344
02:21:12,930 --> 02:21:14,790
Yeah, he's gone. He's gone. Now.
He said, I didn't think it's

2345
02:21:14,790 --> 02:21:17,430
still happening. They're gonna
do this. And it's a little

2346
02:21:17,430 --> 02:21:20,610
nutty, but I was admired that
she could come up with this

2347
02:21:20,610 --> 02:21:21,960
theory in the first place. Are
you

2348
02:21:21,990 --> 02:21:25,110
are you are you feeling like you
got a fever or some? Sorry? Do

2349
02:21:25,110 --> 02:21:26,730
you have a fever? Are you
running a fever?

2350
02:21:27,720 --> 02:21:31,290
Am I Yes, I am. I'm running if
you're admiring actually came up

2351
02:21:31,290 --> 02:21:36,030
with a reasonable prospect.
Well, for a you watch doesn't

2352
02:21:36,030 --> 02:21:39,090
make any sense. And I was
stunned by it sad, but I, but I

2353
02:21:39,090 --> 02:21:43,740
never thought of this this
angle, which I should have. And

2354
02:21:43,740 --> 02:21:46,620
you know, but I think it's
bullcrap. I think it's just

2355
02:21:46,680 --> 02:21:49,530
crazy fear mongering and you
know, these people get involved

2356
02:21:49,530 --> 02:21:53,610
in it. She's a paranoid. But I
still like to theory.

2357
02:21:53,940 --> 02:21:57,270
So that would probably have
something to do with the with

2358
02:21:57,270 --> 02:22:01,170
hospital and Medicaid codes,
which we're not going to discuss

2359
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:06,630
right now. But I want to thank
everybody. Everybody, we had not

2360
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:12,540
met just breams of emails, very
detailed from people every

2361
02:22:12,540 --> 02:22:15,450
perspective. And no perspective
was identical.

2362
02:22:16,230 --> 02:22:19,140
No, they're all different. We
had primary health people write

2363
02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:22,200
us we had heads of large
insurance company data

2364
02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:25,740
processing centers, writers, we
had everybody and their sister

2365
02:22:25,740 --> 02:22:26,160
from all

2366
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:28,380
kinds of prescriptions
appreciated. Lots of dudes named

2367
02:22:28,380 --> 02:22:29,250
Ben, everybody,

2368
02:22:29,850 --> 02:22:32,580
a fan. And then a lot of dudes
they banded really don't have

2369
02:22:32,580 --> 02:22:34,440
anything to do with it. But they
always have to throw their two

2370
02:22:34,440 --> 02:22:38,280
bids in, which is the annoying
ones to me. Oh, I

2371
02:22:38,310 --> 02:22:41,070
didn't find anybody annoying. I
appreciate it. Everybody's

2372
02:22:41,070 --> 02:22:41,580
email.

2373
02:22:43,650 --> 02:22:46,080
Well, whatever they say, we got
a lot of stuff we have to we

2374
02:22:46,080 --> 02:22:47,130
have to distill.

2375
02:22:47,160 --> 02:22:50,700
Yeah, there's a lot. There's a
lot, but I like the ones that

2376
02:22:50,700 --> 02:22:53,460
say, well, you're both kind of
right. And the one I appreciated

2377
02:22:53,460 --> 02:22:56,970
was John's right is the way it
is right now. And Adams right is

2378
02:22:56,970 --> 02:23:02,760
the way it can be in the future.
That made sense to me. But now

2379
02:23:02,760 --> 02:23:05,340
you throw this VA thing in there
and it just feels like whoo,

2380
02:23:05,700 --> 02:23:09,030
boy, because a lot of these
codes, you know, got sucked into

2381
02:23:09,030 --> 02:23:12,810
a jet engine while in Iraq. You
know, that could be bad. You

2382
02:23:12,810 --> 02:23:18,150
know, mother in law hates you,
because you're never home. But I

2383
02:23:18,150 --> 02:23:22,050
just all these things. I don't
know that. The scary thing is

2384
02:23:22,050 --> 02:23:27,750
that nobody really knows exactly
how it's how it's working. And

2385
02:23:27,990 --> 02:23:34,530
none of the systems talk to each
other. And, you know, it's it

2386
02:23:34,530 --> 02:23:38,280
certainly seems like it's like
it's depleting public funds.

2387
02:23:39,630 --> 02:23:42,750
One other thing and of course,
the health care guy told us this

2388
02:23:42,750 --> 02:23:46,080
too, that the healthcare
insurance companies are making

2389
02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:47,910
all the money Yeah, obviously we

2390
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:49,530
know that yes, of course.

2391
02:23:51,510 --> 02:23:55,890
Anyone was fearful because of
Obamacare fearing the wrong

2392
02:23:55,890 --> 02:24:01,290
thing. Anyway, that's we'll talk
about that more anything else?

2393
02:24:01,290 --> 02:24:03,120
So catch a plane what Yeah, no,
I

2394
02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:08,670
did your bags. I did uh, yeah.
No. Time to go time to No, I'm

2395
02:24:08,670 --> 02:24:12,510
doing yeah knows this is not
good. This is not good. All

2396
02:24:12,510 --> 02:24:15,030
right, everybody. Thank you very
much for tuning in. Thank you T

2397
02:24:15,030 --> 02:24:18,780
Mobile. For making it worse.
Saving

2398
02:24:18,780 --> 02:24:23,130
the podcast definitely wasn't
gonna work that other when we

2399
02:24:23,130 --> 02:24:23,700
started.

2400
02:24:24,630 --> 02:24:27,630
No, that was definitely not
going to work. Definitely not

2401
02:24:27,630 --> 02:24:31,050
going to work. Okay.

2402
02:24:34,320 --> 02:24:36,810
I like the fact that T Mobile
can save the day.

2403
02:24:37,500 --> 02:24:40,380
Yeah, that is kind of cool. The
uncarrier is not what to call

2404
02:24:40,380 --> 02:24:43,080
the uncarrier. I don't know what
they call themselves now.

2405
02:24:43,080 --> 02:24:45,150
Something like that. So I'll
play the techno expert as

2406
02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:50,310
a public they would have been
gobbled up gobbled up indeed.

2407
02:24:51,930 --> 02:24:58,860
See to have something else. We
are good. I would say. Thank you

2408
02:24:58,860 --> 02:24:59,970
very much, John Claude.

2409
02:25:02,310 --> 02:25:05,580
And I want to remind people that
it takes if you eat a soy

2410
02:25:05,580 --> 02:25:11,760
burger, it still cost you 174.7
gallons of water. To get to that

2411
02:25:11,790 --> 02:25:12,900
those stats next time,

2412
02:25:13,649 --> 02:25:16,499
very risky. But we both were
coming to you from FEMA Region

2413
02:25:16,529 --> 02:25:19,949
nine today. And luckily we got
the show out and we're good to

2414
02:25:19,949 --> 02:25:22,949
go. So coming to you from Las
Vegas, Nevada in the morning,

2415
02:25:22,949 --> 02:25:24,149
everybody, I'm Adam curry,

2416
02:25:24,539 --> 02:25:27,389
and from Northern Silicon
Valley, where it's going to be a

2417
02:25:27,389 --> 02:25:29,879
scorcher. I'm John C. Dvorak and
we

2418
02:25:29,880 --> 02:25:33,660
will talk to you again on Sunday
right here on religion

2419
02:25:35,580 --> 02:25:40,620
in the morning, this is Sir Jeff
Smith, saying Say no to vocal

2420
02:25:40,620 --> 02:25:43,530
fry, the more you know in the
morning

2421
02:25:44,970 --> 02:25:46,860
vo girl for

2422
02:25:52,680 --> 02:25:55,470
nerds good social,

2423
02:25:56,340 --> 02:25:59,190
young techno experts.

2424
02:27:20,850 --> 02:27:22,050
This job

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gets adopted all over the place.
Fashion people are gonna find a

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reason to love it.

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It's happening. It's happening.
It's happening. It's happening.

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It's happening. It's happening.
I really look forward to the

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challenges of this new job and
putting my stamp on it.

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I'm Joe Biden and thank you for
taking the time to listen. Adios

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MoPhO the best.

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devorah.org/in a payment

