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six pound rodents.

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. It's

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Thursday December 18 2014. And
time for your gizmo nation media

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assassination, Episode Six,
Seven Niner. This

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is no agenda

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refusing to buckle to North
Korean hacker threats continuing

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on broadcast from FEMA Region
six, the capital the drone Star

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State last Tejas in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon

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Valley where we're all gonna die
from the Koreans. That is, I'm

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Johnson.

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But that is not the top news of
the day, John, that is just not

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the top news.

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Well, I have a prelude clip that
if you're going to have the top

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news

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do you know what the top news
is? Yet? Well,

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it doesn't make any difference
is evergreen Prelude?

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Is it called Evergreen Prelude
by any chance all another

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Parliament clip? Ah, one of my
favorites I'm sorry. Are you

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yelling at me?

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I'm announcing Mr. Adam curry
and then they're all cheering

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and cheering

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somehow the mix didn't work try
to get no it's because of Skype

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it did. You gotta like try it
again. Okay, hit it doesn't

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work. Doesn't just not working.
It's not working. Oh, John woke

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up this morning email box
filled. Sorry, I woke up this

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morning, my email box. My inbox
was filled. Okay, all kinds of

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concerns citizens about what
were they concerned about?

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Apparently, I'm divorced again.
two page spread in the newspaper

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today.

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Wow. Yeah. Where did this where
did this news come from?

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I don't know. It's interesting.
Because the there's no, no

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attribution to any sources who
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Well, you know what, this always
sounds like when something like

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this happens to me what sounds
like somebody recycled an old

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newspaper? Or they read it? Oh,
yeah. No, have you ever done

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this? I think everybody has but
you go on the internet and or

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somebody sends you a link to an
article. Yeah. And read this.

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Oh, my God, and you forget to
look at the dates to 2011.

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Okay, so so this is this was
what was it a couple like seven

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weeks ago, that that Gaza mag
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and Mickey on the front, looking
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getting getting divorced. And
you look like a goofball. Yeah,

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well, they've done more of that
now. It's It's unbelievable.

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From the same series. I look
even goofier

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it's is Caitlin good. Yeah,

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I'm getting that be. Yeah, it's
a profile shot. I mean, it's all

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over the Twitter's you should
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I don't say so. But the

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thing is, no, there's no
attribution not saying who has

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this information. They haven't
talked to Mickey or I, as a two

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page spread. And I'm convinced
this is the boomerang effect.

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You know, Mickey has a show
coming up in in January solo

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show. So she's setting up
interviews and it's kind of the

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way it works.

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What's Why don't get the
boomerang part. Oh, we it's

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when you put energy into the
press it boomerangs back it? Oh,

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see what you're thinking. It
always does.

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But this one is, this one was
really good. Because even though

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this article is swear to God, if
you read it, there is nothing in

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there that has any fact or any
source of any information. Just

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Oh, it's being talked about. And
I have good friends

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anything by searching.

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I have good friends. emailing
me. Oh, man, I'm so sorry to

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tell you where this came from.
This doesn't make zero sense.

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Listen, the thing is, everyone
believes it. My own sister's

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like, oh, no, I can't believe
getting divorced again. I said,

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Did you read the wrong thing?
It's somebody what was it that

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they read? The same thing, but I
just told you just went by the

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hand tweets a headline and the
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Adam and Mickey getting
divorced? That's the same gossip

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brag. No, this is the newspaper
The Telegraph, the big one. So

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this is

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what's wrong with these people.
They can't even get the story

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straight today. Recall for
attribution, or

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no, no. Well, of course, why
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everybody's calling Hey, we read
this thing in the newspaper. I'm

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like, and I'm not gonna call you
back. I'm like, I'm gonna. I'm

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gonna feed the machine. That's
funny. So that was my big news.

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And then there was all this
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Sure, big news. What I'm getting
divorced.

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And by the way, how stupid are
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Mickey cannot? She'd be stupid
to divorce me now. We have to

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have the two year interview with
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So she has the green card in the
pocket. Yeah. That makes no

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sense.

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No. Doesn't it after that? Yeah.
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I understand living with a
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you know,

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what are you? What are you? So
what does your husband do? He's

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a podcaster in Austin, in
Austin, Texas. Notice that what

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is that podcast? What does that
even what is that? What is that?

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Can you make money doing? What
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you know yet where you have now
we're V j's are kind of like the

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lowest rung of the show business
ladder actually, above that is

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it's curable lepers. And then
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podcaster calm. And then in the
curable lepers, it

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would make sense, man.

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Anyway, before we get started,
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you for June vented both of
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showbusiness, I know isn't that
great? Yeah, you're a double

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double you've done to have not
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any. So I spent a lot of time in
the past few days analyzing,

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really taking a very, very close
look. And you brought it up. And

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I have to admit, John C. Dvorak.
You were right.

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Okay.

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I think Fox News does have a
couple of transsexuals working

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for him.

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Yeah. How was it? Took me the
wrong direction.

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How was my timing? How was that
was pretty good, right? Yeah, it

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was excellent. I buxom
everybody. Happy Hanukkah. I

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think it's what you say Huck
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I don't know what that even
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happy Hanukkah.

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Because of the war on Christmas.
You see, that's why.

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Okay, it's a war on Christmas. I
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public.

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Well, yeah, I just have so many.
I just couldn't stop yesterday.

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It would not stop this the crazy
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with this with this Sony thing.

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Oh, it's out of control. Way too
many. Clips are revealing. I

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have a theory.

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Can I just follow on? Christmas?

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I'll just come in later.

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I just want to because it's a
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to play a clip from Alan
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Dershowitz. He's, is he a
divorce attorney? No, he's just

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a regular turn. No,

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he's a professor of law, Jew,
and troublemaker and Jew. Yes,

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he's a Jew,

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the world will be full of fear.
Remember the 11th of September

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2001, we recommend you to keep
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at that time. And if your house
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So this is a direct threat of
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goers and people who go to the
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What is the Jew with the wait
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Christmas is not the day that
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manger? Oh, nothing what
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Dershowitz, let's be

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very clear about that. Because
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choice but the bow is this could
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could affect the way Christmas
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affect not only this movie, but
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complex. So this is a big

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in a way that's more serious
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is if you can simply send an
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hall. That's, you know, that's
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about what and the thing I think
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responding to that has a cost to
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learned that the government is
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culprit. So you said you're not
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sponsored terrorism isn't kids
this is clearly state sponsored.

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Clearly. Worldly clearly. The
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backing in conversation with
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Yeah, and he probably has some
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a North Korean thing. Well,
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of course he knows it's bogus.
The problem is he he really I've

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had to educate him over the past
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And you know, because people
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hacking and cyber, if they don't
know what the reports are, you

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know, when someone does
something goes wrong. It's a

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glitch. I mean, there's no
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You sent a link that I did put
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there's a couple of X excellent
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absolutely not a shoo in for
North Korea. This is what I sent

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Don. I sent him a number of
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advice which I'd like to like to
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former CIA former ambassador to
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Ironically, very Ira

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Honestly, this is Carolyn Balan,
she is from Chatham House in the

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UK. She's She is an expert of
sorts in in the cyber Enos. I

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like what she has to say
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I'm going to expand on.
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one hand, you can make the
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attack code that was used in
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for, and this was an attack on
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sorry, what's up?

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Is you sure this isn't the girl
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it up? But it sounds like No,
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not Bandcamp girl than Bandcamp
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and Bandcamp girl at bandcamp.

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I stuck a flute my pacifically
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just right, she may be that
girl. disturbing. Okay,

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pack code is just bought and
sold quite regularly. There's a

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whole underground cyber criminal
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attack code. So I'm not sure
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accused North Korea. But I'm not
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a valid argument. You can
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you can buy even automated
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information can be purchased
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black market. So you can't
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Korea, there's a lot of
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corporate purposes. I mean,
there's always activists, for

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example, there are people who
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fun because it's there. And
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information online that's not
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result, you have people that are
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it's also very lucrative if you
can steal secrets about a

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company. And you're also seen
some extortion as well. So you

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could steal information about a
company and then you could

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extort that company and say, if
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money, then you will, then we
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And we've seen that this was
extremely damaging and extremely

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embarrassing for Sony. You also
just simply have hacktivists who

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engage in cyber attacks, you
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improve even a sort of political
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situation where there was a
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example at Sony or a group of
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therefore interested in getting
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Now, I watched your Twitch show
with the film girl by the way,

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if we could just turn teach her
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wouldn't have been a bad show.
He likes to talk no but she's

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one of these people just won't
stop like I got the microphone

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gonna keep talking I'm not gonna
look have diarrhea of the mouth

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girl Shut up once in a while.
And I was waiting for someone to

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say it Leo came kind of close.
That there have been 7000

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layoffs at Sony this year,
including the entire digital

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division that no one is looking
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fact that

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doesn't fit the narrative.

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But no, they may. The entire
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whole room full of dudes named
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two of them. Yeah, exactly.

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This is so obviously something
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out. And well

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this this this note I sent to be
put in the show notes as an

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analysis of why it's probably
not North Korean. I want to just

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mention a couple of the items
that pushed in here one of the

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most important to me, which was
their number five item, which is

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the attackers only latched on to
the me reading only latched on

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to the interview or the movie
after the media did. The film

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was never mentioned by the GOP
which is something of peace. How

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ironic that that was never
mentioned right at the start of

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the campaign. It was only after
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in the media. Exactly. And that
was and then they Oh yeah,

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that's good. that'll that'll
keep them off of our tracks. But

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then they at the beginning of
this note, I just want to make a

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few things. Everyone's eager to
play minute playing. I'm reading

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again. Blame pin it on us North
Korea, however, it's unlikely

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one, the booklet broken English
looks deliberately bad and

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doesn't exhibit any of the
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you actually expect to see in
Konglish. ie it reads like an

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English speaker pretending to be
bad at writing English, right?

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And the fact that the code was
written on a PC with Korean

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locale and language actually
makes it less likely to be North

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Korea, not least because they
don't speak traditional Korean

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and North Korea. They speak
their own dialect and

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traditional Korean is forbidden.
Yes, it is. This is one of the

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key things that make
communication with North Korea

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different difficult and there's
just point after in this memo

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which was in the show notes.
This there's point after point

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after point including a lot of
little small points that

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indicate but by any, any stretch
of the imagination is not North

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Korea. This is a government a US
government ploy to just once

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again blame North Korea for no
apparent reason. Except, of

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course, you've made this movie
deal which, you know, they

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didn't like the idea of the
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and here's, here's what I told
dawn. I said, Dawn, this is new,

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this is a shift. Because the
American public really doesn't

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care. You can look at the polls,
you can look at, you know,

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survey after survey, they had a
nuclear, nuclear, whatever human

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rights, but who cares. But when
you go after Seth Rogen and

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James Franco and our
entertainment business,

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everybody loses their collective
shit, don't you this, this needs

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to be countered it as a perfect
here's my advice to him. This is

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a big opportunity. Now that we
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couple of clips from Erin
Burnett so we'll have to see but

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I mean, Dan Rather was on Carney
was on Kevin Mitnick was on. I

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mean, everyone's coming out to
condemn North Korea. So this is

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now and of course now people are
paying attention. Hey, man, we

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can drink ruining Christmas man,
we can't go to the movies on

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Christmas man. And it's attack
on free speech and attack on the

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First Amendment. Everyone's
going completely nuts. I said

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Dawn is very simple. This is
what if, if you can through your

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channels make the following
happen. It would be the biggest

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coup in political trade craft
history. Kim Jong Un has to come

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out and say, Hey, why don't we
premiered this movie here in

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Pyongyang. This could be funny.
And he should smoke a blunt with

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Seth Rogen. See if we can get
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There you go right off the rail.

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I didn't say I didn't mention
the blunt thing. But in you know

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and he took my advice he's
listening he's really listening

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are not gonna do that. Ever, but
that is what should be

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happening. It's so obviously
this is so ludicrous. Real Carl

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Bernstein. It's unbelievable.
The people who were on CNN. I

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have a couple clips. I don't
know if you if you want to move

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to your

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players play. What do you have?
I have another thesis

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altogether. Okay. Let me
Alright, that's good. That

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finally figured out what was
going on here. Okay, well, then

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I'll wrap my my bits up. No, no,
I want to hear your clips

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because they will just do
they'll segue into mine. I

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guarantee it

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here. So on the show, Dan Rather
with Fareed Zakaria and Dan

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rather's actually kind of go
he's like, Hey, man, we don't

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actually have any proof yet. But
these guys are are so serious

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about this.

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Yeah, I'm sorry to say and by
the way, the way that stated

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that the FBI, as is now 99%
Certain, and they're going to

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come up with an announcement the
FBI

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no less. Yeah, the FBI. But
apparently last night, they were

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talking about the White House
counterterrorism Council, who

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were saying that although I've
looked at their website, I

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haven't seen any actual
announcement. Anyway, back to

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the these are this is a real
news guy. Two of them have no

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real and Fareed Zakaria A real
douchebag but he's you know,

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these are news guys, there

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is there is cyber war works both
ways. These guys need Internet

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access to operate. And there's
probably a way to get back in.

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Good point. Yes. Let's just
recap for a second. Fareed

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Zakaria clearly an expert in TCP
IP and Border Gateway Protocol

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thinks there's probably a way to
reverse this and get back in

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idiot about it doesn't know what
he's talking about. This is just

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loving

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us to operate in this poverty

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a way to get back in two points
we need to respond. If it is it

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now appears we certainly need to
respond what we've learned not

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to rush, you don't have to do
something. Think it through.

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What are our options in a
counter cyber attack if you have

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cyber attack on them? What are
our options in the banking as I

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mentioned earlier, what are the
options for showing it you say

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Walmart and Target might not
handle the DVDs? Let's put it

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this is another big narrative.
Hey, man, we got to get this

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thing out here. We have to get
released it we should release it

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digitally free for everyone to
see so we can show our American

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prowess because we won't have
our entertainment industry

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threatened by No, no one. Please
take American servicemen and

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women and your families take all
of your flags down and scrub

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your social networks because
ISIS might come to chop your

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head off. But man when it comes
to threatening our entertainment

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industry, we will start back no

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tears. They might not but they
might. But finding a way to get

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this movie out is one man's
opinion is now imperative. We

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have to find a way

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it's the case of national
security, we must get this movie

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out quickly

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have this movie shown in the
United States or will be

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blackmailed constantly by one
regime after another overall,

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we can't have our movies being
black by one regime or the

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other, which

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is what gets the point you made
free, which is the the deadly

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serious of this nature of this
threat of September 11 style

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attacks that is deadly serious,
then you get back to the fact

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that they're doing all of this
over a comedy that had a comedic

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assassination of the North
Korean leader and people say

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that you're willing to risk war
because you don't want that

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movie to come out.

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Doesn't matter whether the movie
is silly or good or bad or

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tastes fascinating winters. This
freedom of expression. Yes.

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Cannot be intimidated. And as
you very rightly pointed out,

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what is the message ISIS is
going to take from this? What is

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the message?

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ISIS, who knows what ISIS will
do next? Man we might have to

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shut down homeland oh my god
claim

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to be outraged by almost
everything, you know, cartoon or

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this or that. Or they're going
to view this and say, Well, this

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is very easy. We just threaten
these guys. And they'll claim

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and the message

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cannot be appeasement. That's
why it's calculated response

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based on hard evidence. And we
have time to make a response but

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respond we have

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the United States Canada,

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and it's fantastic. rageous and
um, let me ask you a question.

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Well, bring it up later, but
outrageous situation how the

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media has just gone in nuts and
but everyone

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is buying it. That's why it's so
great. We have Dan Rather as Dan

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fucking rather

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says because they've got I don't
know if he's, he's pretty old. I

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don't think he's having a lot of
sex. But the here's another note

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from Malmo.

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It's clear from his,

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I'm divorcing, I don't have sex
either. It's clear

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from the hardcore to coded coded
paths and passwords in the

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malware, apparently hard coded
passwords in the malware. Which

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is right there is a giveaway
that whoever wrote it had

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extensive knowledge of Sony's
internal architecture and access

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to key password course. This
inside job, it's very an inside

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job.

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It's very embarrassing. And your
point was well made not

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understood. On the twit show,
you said, the only thing that's

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real news here is that, and
this, by the way, is right out

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of the Unabomber manifesto. This
is what you get with technology.

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Okay. And this is just the
beginning. And a lot of this

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going on that is not talked
about, but that was

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entertainment. And we know the
stars and now it's not whoa,

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wait a minute. So this is great.
In fact, so great that we had

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the we had people coming out
promoting their businesses super

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hacker Kevin Mitnick alive via
satellite, everybody.

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So Kevin, help us understand the
sophistication of this attack?

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If hackers can cause this level
of havoc? What else can they do?

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Could they take out the power
grid or damage our banking

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system,

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quarters stretched, by the way
from a couple of emails in a

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movie trailer to Oh, all of a
sudden to take out the power

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grid already

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been attacks on critical
infrastructure, where allegedly

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the Chinese have been able to
get in. And this is what I do

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for a living companies actually
hired me oh, well break into

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their networks and test their
security. And amazingly, our

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success rates about 100%. I
mean, it's not hard to break

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into a major company these days,
especially when with Sony,

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because their attack surface is
so huge, because they have so

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many systems to attack out on
the internet. So it's really

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hard to defend against these
attacks. And until the security

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industry matures and comes up
with better technologies for

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companies to use. I think this
is going to happen again and

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again.

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Thank you. And your check is in
the mail. They bring in Jay

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Carney, former spokes hole for
the administration, who turned

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right around and became a CNN
expert to shill. And he is not

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he's just he's not sugarcoating
anything.

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What can the US do, Jay?

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Well, I don't think the US can
do anything directly. I think

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President Obama and other
leaders should speak out for the

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First Amendment should
discourage actions.

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First Amendment. John is our
First Amendment is under attack,

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under attack,

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like the one that Sony took in
theaters took that basically

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caved to these kinds of threats.
I think that the suggestion

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mentioned earlier, that Sony
should have and could still

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despite its announcement today,
and make the film available

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digitally so that people are
safe in their own homes when

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they watch it. I think that's
what they should do. Because

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right now you have a bunch of
hackers in North Korea and an

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illegitimate rogue regime in
North Korea, basically deciding

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what Americans and viewers
around the world can watch.

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Oh, my goodness, unlike the FCC.

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Yeah, the FCC doesn't do the
same thing really.

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So and now I want to definitely
hand it to you but so a couple

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just a couple points. I want to
make the The decision to not

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show the movie was based on the
email that said in broken

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English down rough. Do you
remember 911? Well, you might

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not want to go to the movie
theater. If it

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was translated by all the
pundits to a 911 type attack,

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yes. Which was the exact words
they all use? Yes. And 911 type

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attack every time I heard it, I
said, flying into do hijack an

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aeroplane and crash it into the
theater. Exactly.

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If that if if the United States
is going to respond to anything.

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And if they really believe that
this is North Korea, that is an

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act of war, that kind of
language not a terrorist threat.

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But of course, the President is
not going to respond to that

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because it's bull crap.

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Well, here's the problem.
They've dug themselves a hole.

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Yes. Which is they now have
determined is North Korea. So

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the so the real criminals here
they the worked, the ex

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employees, they're off the hook,
because you can't go back now

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and say, Well, I was it was an
irritated after all this too

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many people are in

453
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,010
on. Everyone's making money. The
ratings are through the roof.

454
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,870
Mitnick got contracts,

455
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,710
Yeah, everybody's doing well. So
they have to essentially just

456
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:20,910
keep the blame on North Korea,
even though all evidence doesn't

457
00:26:20,910 --> 00:26:23,790
point to them all evidence
points to them not being the

458
00:26:23,790 --> 00:26:26,820
culprit, and why would they be
what they have, oh, they have a

459
00:26:26,820 --> 00:26:30,840
cyber group, you know, you know,
as well as I do that as somebody

460
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,980
who's into computer hacking to
the point where they can do real

461
00:26:34,980 --> 00:26:38,490
hacking and get into things
without, you know, hard coded

462
00:26:38,490 --> 00:26:41,490
passwords, again, is like the
giveaway, but the guys who can

463
00:26:41,490 --> 00:26:44,280
really do this sort of thing.
Aren't the script kiddies.

464
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,210
They're kids who were like
outcasts in school, they were

465
00:26:48,210 --> 00:26:51,630
troublesome. They're the kind of
people that if we are to believe

466
00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:54,840
anything about North Korea,
would probably not have gotten

467
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,150
this far in the system. And they
definitely would not be in the

468
00:26:57,150 --> 00:27:02,760
3000 man army of cyber attackers
that supposedly North Korea has

469
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,460
they don't have anybody that can
do anything.

470
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,270
But it's almost like my the the
announcement of my divorce when

471
00:27:09,270 --> 00:27:13,710
you read the New York Times
article, Don said, Hey, what is

472
00:27:13,710 --> 00:27:18,270
the media basing this on? And of
course, he reads the paper

473
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:20,730
version. I'm not sure he's not
reading the online version. And

474
00:27:20,730 --> 00:27:25,860
I pointed him to the grey lady,
where it says American officials

475
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,310
have concluded North Korea was
centrally involved. I'm reading

476
00:27:29,310 --> 00:27:32,070
from the New York Times in the
hacking of Sony Pictures,

477
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:34,440
computers, even as the studio
canceled the release of a

478
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,800
Farfetch comedy, blah, blah,
blah, seeing your admission

479
00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:41,010
administration officials who
would not speak on the record

480
00:27:41,010 --> 00:27:45,840
about the intelligence findings.
I mean, come on. Come on. No one

481
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,490
is actually saying this. It's
just bullshit. But the New York

482
00:27:50,490 --> 00:27:52,500
Times is happy to jump right in.

483
00:27:52,590 --> 00:27:56,250
Oh, everybody's in on it. It's
unbelievable to me. I mean,

484
00:27:56,250 --> 00:27:59,430
everybody that listens to this
show must have been shaking

485
00:27:59,430 --> 00:28:01,710
their heads from the beginning
because it has all the earmarks

486
00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:05,280
of a hoax. But let's play Erin
Burnett, I was stopped playing

487
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,970
just a few of these. I was Sony,
Erin Burnett act of war. She

488
00:28:08,970 --> 00:28:12,450
pushes this meme as hard as she
can because she's been told to

489
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,320
Yeah, exactly.

490
00:28:14,370 --> 00:28:18,240
This is a story of incredible
significance. This is as many

491
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,430
have said, this is an act of
war.

492
00:28:20,459 --> 00:28:23,789
I picked a bad day to quit
heroin. Once again, I just gotta

493
00:28:23,789 --> 00:28:25,169
keep getting back on the horse.
That's an

494
00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:27,540
American company now has been
out they have said that this is

495
00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:29,730
perpetrated by a foreign
government by the Government of

496
00:28:29,730 --> 00:28:32,400
North Korea. Alright, so mark,
let me ask you the question that

497
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,400
directly when you hear this, the
threats that were made, and

498
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,010
there was a threat, right, there
was a written threat, not just

499
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:40,740
on Sony Pictures, but to the
American public of learning of

500
00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:43,470
911 style attacks. If people
went to see this movie on

501
00:28:43,470 --> 00:28:46,320
Christmas Day when it debuted,
is this an act of war?

502
00:28:46,830 --> 00:28:49,860
Well, it is an act of war, but
it is an act of wars, typically

503
00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:52,860
against by a nation state
against another state. This is

504
00:28:52,860 --> 00:28:57,210
unusual, because it is a warlike
act, if it was done, actually by

505
00:28:57,210 --> 00:29:00,150
North Korea, which all
indications are that it was it's

506
00:29:00,150 --> 00:29:04,230
an act of war against the
corporation. Now Sony had to had

507
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:08,070
to respond. And they have to
protect life, health, safety and

508
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:12,300
property first. But after that,
you know, really they did

509
00:29:12,330 --> 00:29:15,300
ultimately end up having to cave
in to these demands.

510
00:29:15,479 --> 00:29:18,209
It's Sony running our Department
of Homeland Security now that

511
00:29:18,209 --> 00:29:20,099
they have to protect life.

512
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,340
There's a couple of things that
come up come to mind

513
00:29:23,340 --> 00:29:28,200
immediately, which is, if that's
an act of war, which I don't see

514
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:31,170
wasn't the why don't they call
the attack on the target

515
00:29:31,170 --> 00:29:34,680
database and his credit cards an
act of war? Why wasn't that an

516
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,800
act of war? Why was it the
attack of Home Depot? And what

517
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,040
wasn't that an act of war? That
never came up in the

518
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,130
conversation? And if you want to
turn it around, why wasn't

519
00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:49,380
Stuxnet? Thank you an act of war
and it was designed to target

520
00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:52,830
the government. I mean, it was
not like some company and it was

521
00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:56,700
a component is an admitted act
of war. Yeah, it's an actual

522
00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:59,340
attack on someone's critical
infrastructure.

523
00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:02,970
Yeah. And this is just an attack
on the email system offense.

524
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,340
But think about it. We only
think about it. The

525
00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:09,180
entertainment business truly is
our critical infrastructure.

526
00:30:09,660 --> 00:30:12,540
That's what we run on.
Everything is fueled by it.

527
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:16,740
Everything I could I was so
blown. I mean, it's one, Carl

528
00:30:16,740 --> 00:30:21,240
Bernstein. Carl. He's from
Bernstein, Woodward and

529
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,510
Bernstein. These are the guys
who, who broke the Watergate

530
00:30:24,510 --> 00:30:29,670
story, right? Yes, he's he's
getting on the air. Now.

531
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:32,400
I want to read to you what,
what? Don Lemon, which

532
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,290
that just blows my mind right
there.

533
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,960
Engrish tweeted about Sony's
decision. He said, No one should

534
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,630
kill themselves with the Sony
collapse of America.

535
00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:43,560
Did he just did he just say
English? He didn't say that. And

536
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,930
I want to read to you. What
would Newt Gingrich Oh, Newt

537
00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:48,810
Gingrich, I'm sorry. Newt
Gingrich. Yeah. Newt Gingrich,

538
00:30:49,770 --> 00:30:53,730
have this clip. The other Newt
Gingrich, quote is a classic.

539
00:30:53,730 --> 00:30:56,610
You put English as the standard
in the media somehow, about

540
00:30:56,610 --> 00:30:56,940
Sony's

541
00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:59,490
decision. He said no one should
kill themselves with the Sony

542
00:30:59,490 --> 00:31:04,200
collapse. America has lost its
first cyber war. This is a very,

543
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,100
very dangerous precedent. So
Carl, you know, what message

544
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:11,850
will ISIS or the Taliban or
other characters from this

545
00:31:11,850 --> 00:31:12,480
capitulation

546
00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:16,380
is going to use Newt Gingrich
and I aren't known for being on

547
00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:17,160
the same page.

548
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:20,520
It's so good job, that Carl
burns and Newt Gingrich are now

549
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,670
agreeing with each other over
this must be true over this

550
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:24,690
obvious hoax too

551
00:31:24,690 --> 00:31:29,700
often, but we sure are here.
This is terrible. It also means

552
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:35,790
that almost any lone wolf
terrorist, some ways to inhibit

553
00:31:35,850 --> 00:31:40,080
scared the hell out of big
businesses, and we now have

554
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,150
capitulated to a force. You
know, we don't negotiate with

555
00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:50,520
kidnappers is a similar kind of
question. What are we doing here

556
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:54,000
by saying, oh, let's let these
guys just come in and have their

557
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,870
way I would hope that that the
White House with the

558
00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:02,850
entertainment industry figures
out a way to somehow insist that

559
00:32:02,850 --> 00:32:04,470
this movie Get Out there.

560
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,930
It's incredible, baffling.
dumbfounding

561
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:15,390
OSI have so I have a clip of and
this is I believe on one of

562
00:32:15,390 --> 00:32:19,230
these. I think it's a CNN show.
They may have been Aaron. They

563
00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:26,520
bring on Buck Sexton. Now, Buck
Sexton is an ex CIA guy who is

564
00:32:26,550 --> 00:32:33,510
one of the primary players on
the blaze. He's the handler for

565
00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:37,980
Verband back, okay. And he comes
on and I got three clips from

566
00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:42,090
one after the other because he,
he comes on to straighten out

567
00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:46,410
the memes. fast talker. Okay, so
you get a lot out of them yet.

568
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,080
And a lot of this stuff just
slips by his last IV slips in.

569
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:53,760
He had to do a couple of things.
One is is he had to correct the

570
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,430
notion that Sony is a Japanese
company.

571
00:32:57,540 --> 00:32:58,560
Oops, yeah.

572
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,090
Even though that's kind of like
an act of war. There's a logical

573
00:33:03,090 --> 00:33:07,260
problem here. Yeah. act of war.
Oh, we got it to retaliate. Oh,

574
00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:10,380
wait a minute. Sony is a
Japanese company.

575
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:12,450
ixnay on the Japanese Jay.

576
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:16,260
Shouldn't we shouldn't the
Japanese be bent out of shape?

577
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:18,270
At least taken care of? Yeah,
but they're not they're not

578
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:23,280
know. So he drops in the meme.
He uses it repeatedly. The meme

579
00:33:23,310 --> 00:33:28,110
on American soil. Oh, wow. Yes.

580
00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:30,870
Is that in this first clip here?

581
00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:33,570
It's an actually in a couple of
clips. But let's play Buck

582
00:33:33,570 --> 00:33:39,060
Sexton you know, trying to
straighten this out. So so all

583
00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:41,460
the memes are lining up properly
of this.

584
00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:43,560
Well, is this buck Sexton one
then because you want?

585
00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:46,470
A short time ago former
Republican presidential

586
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:49,080
candidate Newt Gingrich tweeted
his opinion this

587
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,680
is Fox man. It's not CNN. Yeah,
this fox. Let's make sense that

588
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,650
I would be surprised if Sexton
came on CNN. The whole

589
00:33:55,650 --> 00:33:58,380
thing called No one should kill
themselves with the Sony

590
00:33:58,380 --> 00:34:03,780
collapse. America has lost its
first cyber war. This is a very,

591
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,130
very dangerous seminal moment
press precedent. He says Buck

592
00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:10,980
Sexton has hosted the buck
Sexton show on glaze radio, a

593
00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:15,030
former CIA officer and former
NYPD Intelligence Division

594
00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:17,790
specialists back Welcome. Good
to have you here tonight. Thank

595
00:34:17,790 --> 00:34:20,820
you. That's a big deal. What
does the FBI know about this at

596
00:34:20,820 --> 00:34:21,630
this point? Do you think

597
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,830
it's bizarre and yet very
serious. At the same time? The

598
00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:28,530
idea that this could be anything
other than North Korea wouldn't

599
00:34:28,530 --> 00:34:30,960
make any sense who would go
through all this trouble? Who

600
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,870
would have the capability who
would care enough about this

601
00:34:33,870 --> 00:34:36,120
movie other than the North
Korean government and its

602
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,150
surrogates to actually engage in
this? So at this point, whether

603
00:34:39,150 --> 00:34:41,700
the administration comes out or
not and says it's official, I

604
00:34:41,700 --> 00:34:43,710
know there have been sources
saying that the FBI has

605
00:34:43,710 --> 00:34:46,530
essentially said that it is
North Korea, we basically know

606
00:34:46,530 --> 00:34:47,040
that it is

607
00:34:48,570 --> 00:34:50,610
essentially basically don't
question

608
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:56,310
it and basically know that it is
me I know, in our hearts, that

609
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:57,450
it's North Korean, I

610
00:34:57,450 --> 00:35:00,780
remind everybody that we are a
Gitmo nation. and living under

611
00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:04,950
the repeal meant of the Smith
Mundt Act, which forbade the

612
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:09,210
American government from
committing propaganda on the

613
00:35:09,210 --> 00:35:13,530
citizens of the United States.
And this is the result of that

614
00:35:13,890 --> 00:35:14,640
repeal.

615
00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:16,980
This is section two,

616
00:35:17,250 --> 00:35:19,740
the question becomes and what
should the response be? Because

617
00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:23,010
this is a very serious issue.
If, if North Korea is allowed to

618
00:35:23,010 --> 00:35:25,380
do this, if they're allowed to
essentially target private

619
00:35:25,380 --> 00:35:28,560
corporations on US soil, and
even private citizens, it has a

620
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,470
very real chilling effect on our
speech on top of being a form of

621
00:35:31,470 --> 00:35:34,530
cyber terrorism. So this is
something that requires a robust

622
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:37,410
and dedicated response from the
White House. I'm not sure we're

623
00:35:37,410 --> 00:35:40,050
going to get it though. I think
right now, they're waiting to

624
00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:41,160
see what happens so far, we

625
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,170
haven't heard booth from the
White House. I mean, you might

626
00:35:43,170 --> 00:35:46,500
expect when you think about
after 911, and the concerns that

627
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:49,500
there would be further threats,
the message was always go live

628
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:52,440
your life, do what you're gonna
do, go to the movies, go

629
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,070
shopping. Now, you know, this is
uncharted territory, in many

630
00:35:56,070 --> 00:36:01,710
ways, a cyber war, a terrorist
act in many ways, you know, we

631
00:36:01,710 --> 00:36:03,840
don't know this territory. We
don't know how to play out, but

632
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,760
it could happen again. And
again. And again, given this

633
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,950
precedent, Sony back down. Wow,

634
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:12,060
wow, this is great. And I do,
it's important what I said at

635
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:16,380
the opening of the show, when
you know that my own family and

636
00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:19,620
then people I know very well are
emailing me saying, Man, I'm so

637
00:36:19,620 --> 00:36:24,330
sorry to hear about the divorce.
This it works. This stuff works.

638
00:36:24,450 --> 00:36:26,130
It works. It works.

639
00:36:26,190 --> 00:36:31,770
I love it. Book, which is Buck
Sexton three, this is the

640
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:34,500
best, this is the mean time and
just rewind it there for a

641
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:36,450
second. This is good. By the
way. I like these.

642
00:36:36,510 --> 00:36:39,030
Alright, so when he did back
down, and I know that there's a

643
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:41,280
lot of people who are saying
that Sony essentially wimped out

644
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,040
here. But let's be clear that
Sony has been sucker punched by

645
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,620
this whole situation, their
computers have been wiped clean,

646
00:36:46,740 --> 00:36:49,560
everything has been taken off.
And as we know, shared very

647
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,390
broadly, to embarrass the
company tremendously, it's going

648
00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:54,960
to cost 10s of millions of
dollars more. So there's some

649
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,240
very serious issues that Sony is
trying to deal with on top of

650
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:59,220
whether they're even going to
release this movie. And quite

651
00:36:59,220 --> 00:37:01,680
honestly, this is a national
security issue. It's a First

652
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,780
Amendment issue from the
perspective of the American

653
00:37:03,780 --> 00:37:07,170
people who shouldn't be cowed by
foreign dictators.

654
00:37:07,710 --> 00:37:10,230
Is it an overreaction? Because,
you know, we're hearing there's

655
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:13,950
no credible threats to any movie
theaters in America based on

656
00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:17,280
this. And I also wonder, we've
heard so much about our invasion

657
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,190
of privacy, you know, that the
NSA is everywhere, that they're

658
00:37:20,190 --> 00:37:23,460
watching everything, there seem
to have any clue where this came

659
00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:23,670
from,

660
00:37:24,060 --> 00:37:26,430
telling us that this was very
sophisticated and the level of

661
00:37:26,430 --> 00:37:30,240
the President, but I'll say
this, the American people do not

662
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,390
react well forget about Sony for
a second. We don't react well to

663
00:37:33,390 --> 00:37:36,510
some tin pot dictator anywhere
in the world telling us what we

664
00:37:36,510 --> 00:37:42,300
can or cannot speak. What can we
do. And we've done is I think

665
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:44,130
that there'll be a little bit
among the American people that

666
00:37:44,130 --> 00:37:47,580
show some solidarity here and
the first amendment so far,

667
00:37:47,580 --> 00:37:49,290
they're saying they're not going
to release it digitally. I'm not

668
00:37:49,290 --> 00:37:51,480
sure that's going to hold
someone's going to get a copy of

669
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,940
this. It will be distributed on
the internet. And there will be

670
00:37:53,940 --> 00:37:56,550
I think, a movement to spread
the film far and wide. So the

671
00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:59,670
intent of this from North Korea,
at least in part, which was keep

672
00:37:59,670 --> 00:38:01,710
it from getting seen that's not
going to work

673
00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:04,470
that has been set for American
corporations as you guys want,

674
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:08,340
but we backed out we pulled our
movie out so you want that's the

675
00:38:08,340 --> 00:38:09,390
terrorists win

676
00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:13,380
against Sony. Between this and
Cuba. It's a good day for

677
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:14,610
tyranny a bad day for freedom.

678
00:38:15,150 --> 00:38:16,890
Great day for tyranny. John.

679
00:38:17,460 --> 00:38:20,520
I love the great day for tyranny
hail, Hydra. I

680
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,770
love the smell of tyranny in the
morning.

681
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:24,660
A for tear.

682
00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:30,180
You know, what the real bummer
is? And I think someone placed a

683
00:38:30,180 --> 00:38:33,450
couple of calls because it
stopped. But everybody who were

684
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,870
they were spoiling the movie.
You know, now we all know that

685
00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:39,990
it ends with Kim Jong owns head
exploding, right? That's a

686
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:45,570
spoiler man is a spoiler. And
that's not okay. No. And then

687
00:38:45,570 --> 00:38:45,750
that's,

688
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,370
and by the way, talking about
acts of war. Yeah. What would

689
00:38:50,370 --> 00:38:55,500
happen if France or Germany or
anyone did a movie about killing

690
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:59,910
Obama? Now, we've had movies
that are done out of Hollywood

691
00:38:59,910 --> 00:39:02,610
where the President's under
threat and they have to hold on

692
00:39:02,610 --> 00:39:05,940
a second. Every never thought of
specifics? Never about the

693
00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:10,200
specific president in office.
Correct. But this isn't I think

694
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,680
this is the movie itself, even
though our government suppose it

695
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,970
green lighted it, our

696
00:39:14,970 --> 00:39:18,120
government greenlit it. There's
Yeah, they have to call the

697
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,910
White House and say hey, man,
can you Greenlight this really?

698
00:39:21,450 --> 00:39:24,180
Yeah. Which of course that tells
you how deep the government's

699
00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:27,060
involved in stuff like this.
Yeah, the government Greenlight

700
00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:27,750
it, it probably was

701
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:31,080
a good idea. Maybe we can get
something going on bingo Boom

702
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:31,770
shaka laka.

703
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,180
And it was it was about a
specific individual who's it who

704
00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:41,370
was a real person. It was a
tasteless idea. I mean, to say

705
00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:44,940
the least. But of course the
Japanese and was never

706
00:39:44,940 --> 00:39:47,220
mentioned. This is the racism
between the Japanese and the

707
00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:50,460
Koreans in general. Huge, huge,
huge. The Japanese hate the

708
00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:54,150
Koreans. They've burnt they've
attacked them their their

709
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,630
country numerous times and burnt
the place to the ground. Yeah,

710
00:39:57,690 --> 00:40:00,540
the Koreans actually lost their
written land. Language and it

711
00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:05,040
had to be redeveloped from
scratch. I know why. So screwy

712
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,360
looking? Because of the
Japanese. Yeah. So them doing

713
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,420
this movie, you know, it's not
really a big surprise. But this

714
00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:17,250
is not an attack on the United
States by any means. by anybody.

715
00:40:17,250 --> 00:40:21,030
This is bullcrap. Now here's
what here's what I think. Here's

716
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:22,920
what I think would happen, or
what's happening.

717
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:25,260
Can I ask you one question
before you get into the final

718
00:40:25,260 --> 00:40:31,680
analysis? Yeah. is running the
entire nuclear armament of South

719
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,620
Korea, which we're doing about
to hand that over to South Korea

720
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,030
to sell them billions of dollars
worth of rockets pointed at

721
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:44,040
Pyongyang? Is that anywhere near
on the level of a movie about

722
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,500
the Kim Jong lunes head being
blown up?

723
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,250
I don't see any comparison
whatsoever. Okay, just want to

724
00:40:50,250 --> 00:40:53,700
make sure I'm not crazy. Now
let's go with I get the loudest

725
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:56,520
do these last two clips here.
Here's the first one that kind

726
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,180
of like, okay, I see where Korea
stands. And all this. Here's a,

727
00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:04,410
here's a fox, fox is all in on
this, of course, here's a fox

728
00:41:04,410 --> 00:41:09,510
item about Castro. And this is
the Castro North Korea clip and

729
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:12,510
this was this was kind of
triggered some of my thinking,

730
00:41:12,690 --> 00:41:16,260
then then we gave up three
spies. And suppose we might have

731
00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:19,290
another person that's, that's
coming. But on top of that,

732
00:41:19,650 --> 00:41:22,020
there are these incredible
concessions that the Castro

733
00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:25,980
regime has always asked for. And
in return, it's one that the Red

734
00:41:25,980 --> 00:41:29,220
Cross is going to be able to go
into Cuba and the UN is going to

735
00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:32,910
be able to go into Cuba. This is
the same un that six months ago,

736
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,370
was told that the Castro regime
has sent the largest shipment of

737
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,910
illicit arms to North Korea. And
they did nothing they didn't

738
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:45,270
respond. President Obama did
respond by giving the Castro

739
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:49,620
regime the largest concessions
that any dictator has gotten in

740
00:41:49,620 --> 00:41:51,690
franking. In frankly, your
recent history. I

741
00:41:51,690 --> 00:41:52,560
mean, it just raises

742
00:41:54,210 --> 00:41:56,850
Why is it why is this they're
throwing in a little thing,

743
00:41:56,850 --> 00:41:59,250
their little little who's got
nothing to do with this deal,

744
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:03,330
but they throw it in anyway.
Okay, would change it? Okay, so

745
00:42:03,330 --> 00:42:06,390
then I got Fox hints at the
truth about the Sony attack. And

746
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:09,540
this is what triggered my
conclusion from enablers

747
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:11,760
really of those behind this
vicious attack.

748
00:42:11,970 --> 00:42:14,700
But I find it curious, because
there's so many people who are

749
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:17,340
outraged in this country by the
involvement of government and

750
00:42:17,340 --> 00:42:19,860
private companies in the
business of private companies in

751
00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:22,470
regulation, all of that. And
yet, I mean, maybe we're gonna

752
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:25,290
hear more tomorrow when they
make this FBI announcement that

753
00:42:25,290 --> 00:42:28,500
supposedly will definitely link
it to North Korea. But we

754
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:31,050
haven't heard from the
government. Look, go about your

755
00:42:31,050 --> 00:42:34,320
lives. Don't let this cow you,
you know. And also, I heard that

756
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,350
two government officials were
consulted on this movie, and

757
00:42:37,350 --> 00:42:39,360
said, you know, we don't have a
problem with the fact that Kim

758
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,330
Jong Un's head blows up at the
end of the movie. We're okay

759
00:42:42,330 --> 00:42:44,310
with it. Now that I have too
much to say about the whole

760
00:42:44,310 --> 00:42:44,640
thing.

761
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,900
This was a stupid and reckless
idea by Sony, how it gets

762
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:53,340
marketed as a comedy. I have no
idea but it still is a blow

763
00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:56,790
against free speech as dumb as
the movie might be. And as you

764
00:42:56,790 --> 00:43:00,270
mentioned earlier, there is now
nothing to stop other attackers

765
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:04,680
from targeting any movie or
magazine or newspaper displeases

766
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,220
them. And many, many American
companies are vulnerable.

767
00:43:08,310 --> 00:43:10,890
And they will you can bet on it
after this. Howard, thank you

768
00:43:10,890 --> 00:43:11,520
very much.

769
00:43:11,550 --> 00:43:14,370
Okay. I think I know where
you're going. Any American

770
00:43:14,370 --> 00:43:17,070
companies are vulnerable by I
think I know what you're the

771
00:43:17,070 --> 00:43:18,990
word. Yes. I agree. I think that
Okay,

772
00:43:18,990 --> 00:43:22,980
so what we have is the they took
this situation, and they because

773
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,650
and the NSA was mentioned
earlier, which helps me come to

774
00:43:25,650 --> 00:43:29,760
the conclusion that this is an
opportunity to get the American

775
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,750
corporations on board with this
information sharing we've been

776
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:37,200
insisting on and then and the
company said last time you you

777
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,770
guys are involved, you're
screwed us. We got we burned us

778
00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:43,920
we can't do business overseas,
and all this sort of thing

779
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,730
because of the Snowden stuff. So
they're trying to make it you

780
00:43:47,730 --> 00:43:50,880
know, let's Let's scare these
companies to death, which is our

781
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,540
what we can do the best about
what this could happen to you.

782
00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:57,720
And this isn't foreign
government. And if we if you

783
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:00,270
don't have us in bed with you,
if we don't have the US, we

784
00:44:00,270 --> 00:44:03,390
can't we can't protect you. We
can't protect protect you,

785
00:44:03,450 --> 00:44:07,110
you're going to be screwed like
Sony got screwed by North Korea,

786
00:44:07,110 --> 00:44:11,040
those evil doers don't want
that, do you? So this is just a

787
00:44:11,130 --> 00:44:15,210
complete ploy. From the
beginning to the end for our

788
00:44:15,210 --> 00:44:18,570
intelligence services to get
into the corporate, you know,

789
00:44:18,570 --> 00:44:19,350
pants.

790
00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:22,950
Well, the bill is about to be
signed by the President. It went

791
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:25,740
through it he all he has to do
is sign it. And I guess now

792
00:44:25,740 --> 00:44:28,620
that's all he has to do in this
in this Gambit. This is a

793
00:44:28,620 --> 00:44:31,020
gambit. This is the definition
of a gambit, I think.

794
00:44:32,070 --> 00:44:35,670
Yes. Which also means that they
can't reveal if when they catch

795
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:39,480
the real guys who did this if
they do, they can they can never

796
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,540
say that because now it makes
the whole thing look like a

797
00:44:42,540 --> 00:44:44,070
giant scam which it is

798
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:45,180
fall apart. Yeah.

799
00:44:46,770 --> 00:44:49,080
I love this.

800
00:44:50,340 --> 00:44:53,970
Because if you had if we had
been talking a couple of years

801
00:44:53,970 --> 00:44:56,790
ago, and I would have said hey
man, you know what I think's

802
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:59,730
going to happen because I'm from
the future. And I told you this

803
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,320
You would have laughed in my
face. You would have said no

804
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,310
way. Even I couldn't have come
up with this scenario. This is

805
00:45:08,310 --> 00:45:13,950
great. Do you think that there's
one or two people who are really

806
00:45:13,950 --> 00:45:16,920
thought about this? Or is this
crisis teams who come in and

807
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:19,290
crisis thing? Don't let a good
crisis go to waste? But

808
00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:22,050
who do you think is really
driving this?

809
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,840
I you know, at first at first
just call me I mean,

810
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,550
call me could be call me. For
me.

811
00:45:26,940 --> 00:45:30,840
It's definitely NSA, NSA. So
there's some involvement, but I

812
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,010
think it started on its own. I
don't think anyone's plan. I

813
00:45:35,010 --> 00:45:37,890
agree scheme. I agree. First, it
started on Sunday in the media

814
00:45:37,890 --> 00:45:40,650
picked it up, because it's a
slow news, you know, time a

815
00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:43,800
year, well, North Koreans are
attacking because of this

816
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,320
because somebody put two and two
together somebody like us that

817
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,140
doesn't, but only at one level.
They didn't didn't go any

818
00:45:49,140 --> 00:45:52,110
deeper. Somebody in the media
put two and two together. So oh,

819
00:45:52,110 --> 00:45:56,310
there's this movie. And Kim Jong
Un, I think did express some

820
00:45:56,310 --> 00:45:57,780
dissatisfaction. Yes, there

821
00:45:57,780 --> 00:46:02,730
was on December 9, the state
television said they deserve

822
00:46:02,730 --> 00:46:06,270
that the putting about the Sony
hack. And they certainly deserve

823
00:46:06,270 --> 00:46:08,910
being hacked because there's a
horrible movie they're putting

824
00:46:08,910 --> 00:46:10,710
out that was state TV, which

825
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,590
first thing they hacked and
nobody mentioned the movie, then

826
00:46:13,590 --> 00:46:15,690
somebody mentions the movie, and
then somebody puts two and two

827
00:46:15,690 --> 00:46:18,840
together and all of a sudden is
the movie then thus it was thus

828
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,960
this is a postdoc argument. One
of those back as arguments is

829
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,020
bullshit. That would be put two
and two together and thought it

830
00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:27,570
has to be North Korea. And then
pretty soon it goes from an it

831
00:46:27,570 --> 00:46:30,900
must be North Korea to it is
North Korea, and everybody knows

832
00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:34,620
it like a buck sexes, and we all
know it. We all know it's North

833
00:46:34,620 --> 00:46:40,740
Korea. And it goes and then at
some point, it's between the

834
00:46:40,830 --> 00:46:43,890
putting together and then the
thing maintaining itself as a

835
00:46:43,890 --> 00:46:47,490
news story. Somebody came up
with the bright idea to say yes,

836
00:46:47,490 --> 00:46:49,710
it is North Korea, and everybody
is under attack. And all

837
00:46:49,710 --> 00:46:53,400
corporations are vulnerable. Get
in bed with the NSA, we've been

838
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,160
begging you to do this forever.
You don't want like us, but we

839
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,740
want you in bed, and this is
going to happen to you.

840
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,180
Everybody buys it. They all sign
up. It's fantastic. It's really

841
00:47:03,180 --> 00:47:06,840
smartly done. Yeah, but it
wasn't a it wasn't a plan it

842
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,330
just one of those crisis
management things. You got the

843
00:47:09,330 --> 00:47:12,960
crisis? What can how can we? How
can we make out on this crisis?

844
00:47:14,910 --> 00:47:19,140
And here's the only thing I will
say, first of all, and I know

845
00:47:19,170 --> 00:47:23,340
dudes named Ben and dudettes
named Ben, who have worked on

846
00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:28,500
drone programs. Who left and
were then asked by their

847
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:33,270
superiors. Oh, hey, man, could
you change the root password? To

848
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:33,870
this?

849
00:47:35,850 --> 00:47:36,750
To this I'm

850
00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:40,440
not kidding you this is true of
release, it was by believe it to

851
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,780
be true with this story that was
really sounds like something

852
00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:47,490
that would happen. The level of
knowledge of how technology

853
00:47:47,490 --> 00:47:52,800
works in American in any
business is so low is so trusted

854
00:47:53,040 --> 00:48:01,500
to just so trusted, really, that
the big news for me is, it's a

855
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:05,850
free for all. It's a big free
for all, and only the people

856
00:48:05,850 --> 00:48:09,540
it's very simple, very, very few
things you have to do. There's

857
00:48:09,540 --> 00:48:12,210
lots of stuff I email, if
someone breaks into my email

858
00:48:12,210 --> 00:48:15,240
could be potentially
embarrassing that I'm sure

859
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:18,360
there's something in there. This
is why all you have to do is

860
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,080
just use encryption. It's very
simple. And oh, yeah, it's not

861
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,630
being made simple for you to do
it. But once you figure it out,

862
00:48:24,900 --> 00:48:28,080
that's really the main thing
people have to do. That's it.

863
00:48:28,110 --> 00:48:29,280
That's all it has the powers

864
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,640
that they do not want you using
encrypt horse. Now notice that

865
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,180
if you're on all this reporting,
no one mentions it. No one even

866
00:48:36,180 --> 00:48:39,420
used the word encryption even
when I heard it.

867
00:48:39,450 --> 00:48:42,030
Even Kevin Mitnick is saying,
Oh, we have to wait for more

868
00:48:42,060 --> 00:48:46,410
more sophisticated tools to be
developed. Shut up, you dick.

869
00:48:47,070 --> 00:48:50,070
That guy's a dick. He's all in.

870
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,200
Well, of course, this is his
livelihood. I'd be all into if I

871
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,480
was on the wrong side of
history. This was this. This is

872
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,110
a scam. It's the highest the
highest order. You know, of all

873
00:49:04,110 --> 00:49:07,020
the things in that memo that I
said it will be in the show

874
00:49:07,020 --> 00:49:10,380
notes. Of all the things there's
a long list of reasons why it's

875
00:49:10,380 --> 00:49:15,930
not North Korea, the hard coded
paths and passwords and malware.

876
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:21,300
Yeah, hard coded paths, paths,
paths. They knew the structure

877
00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:24,570
of the day of the whole network,
the whole course hard coded

878
00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:30,180
passwords. Yeah, that's not
malware. By any normal sense. I

879
00:49:30,180 --> 00:49:33,240
mean, you can't use it someplace
else. You can't take that code

880
00:49:33,330 --> 00:49:37,050
and then attack you know, Sears
with it or attack anybody

881
00:49:37,050 --> 00:49:38,190
Paramount Pictures.

882
00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:41,910
I didn't actually interact
directly with people in the IT

883
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:46,500
arena. There was somebody whose
name was I can't even remember

884
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:49,470
his last name. I think his first
name may have been been a guy

885
00:49:49,470 --> 00:49:50,130
named Ben and

886
00:49:50,130 --> 00:49:53,100
dude named Ben. That's right.
That's how people think about

887
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:57,000
their IT technology. The dude
named Ben is sitting there. I

888
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,970
don't know some dude named Ben
came over and he did some stuff.

889
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,620
It was damaged and fix it all.
He Sony, they're dumb. They

890
00:50:04,650 --> 00:50:11,490
fired 5000 people and another
2000 in July. No one is talking

891
00:50:11,490 --> 00:50:18,090
about this is the entire digital
division. Come on? Come on,

892
00:50:18,090 --> 00:50:20,910
who's the Chief Technology
Officer at Sony or whoever is

893
00:50:20,910 --> 00:50:21,840
supposed to be in charge?

894
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,540
I think this the hack came after
the second 2000 If you're

895
00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:29,010
working there, and they just
fired 5000 people in a certain

896
00:50:29,010 --> 00:50:34,050
type of arena, which would be
the computer guys. And your

897
00:50:34,050 --> 00:50:37,440
computer guys still working
there? Yeah. You The first thing

898
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,890
you do. I don't know. Maybe I'm
wrong about this, but a lot of

899
00:50:40,890 --> 00:50:43,020
people take defensive measures.

900
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:48,390
And yeah, of course, and you
should I'm doing that right now

901
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:52,230
to make his computer before the
divorce. I gotta download that

902
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:53,880
whole bench. I gotta have the
thing, man. I gotta

903
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:57,810
be 3.0 Really pull stuff down
fast.

904
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,460
I need my I need weaponization
here under attack.

905
00:51:03,090 --> 00:51:07,500
We're talking about under
attack. So I got it. This is

906
00:51:07,830 --> 00:51:10,410
this is the level of do it the
public has to deal with.

907
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,790
Can I just stop you for one
second? Isn't it great for you

908
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:17,190
and I to be alive while this is
happening? And to have a

909
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:18,030
podcast,

910
00:51:18,510 --> 00:51:20,910
though? Yeah. And I think
everyone who listens to this

911
00:51:20,910 --> 00:51:26,280
podcast Yeah, it's a winner very
much appreciates this probably

912
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,550
more than anyone else because
our audience is very technical.

913
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:33,930
Not everybody but most of them
and or a lot of them let's say

914
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,830
and they exist less and less
well crap constantly and they

915
00:51:37,830 --> 00:51:41,160
must and must drive them crazy
and they love they have to

916
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:44,910
because we have good support.
They love the fact that somebody

917
00:51:44,910 --> 00:51:49,830
is making the obvious you know
we're saying the obvious is this

918
00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:50,400
is no

919
00:51:50,430 --> 00:51:54,300
this is outcomes razor is this
is this is very obvious. It's

920
00:51:54,300 --> 00:52:00,270
very easy to see. I'm just
flabbergasted at the level of

921
00:52:00,270 --> 00:52:03,780
people that for Don Lemon to sit
around and one day he's talking

922
00:52:03,780 --> 00:52:06,510
about why didn't you bite Bill
Cosby's Dick when he was putting

923
00:52:06,510 --> 00:52:10,290
it in your mouth. Thanks Don
Lemon for a way to vilify the

924
00:52:10,290 --> 00:52:13,080
victim and then the next day
he's you know he's talking to

925
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:20,010
Dan Rather and Carl Bernstein
and through it's great All

926
00:52:20,010 --> 00:52:21,030
right, what do you have got
more?

927
00:52:21,630 --> 00:52:25,200
Well actually, let me skip it in
we can maybe you want to

928
00:52:25,410 --> 00:52:28,050
want to take a little break
afterwards. Well, maybe then

929
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:33,720
since we're, we are truly
courageous. In our reporting,

930
00:52:34,140 --> 00:52:36,750
duo we are the courageous do I'd
like to thank you for your

931
00:52:36,750 --> 00:52:40,170
courage and say in the morning
to you John C. Where the C

932
00:52:40,170 --> 00:52:42,120
stands for courage Dvorak

933
00:52:42,750 --> 00:52:48,960
as well then can't seem to find
my sound effects the tube in the

934
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,090
morning to you Adam curry also
in the morning a little chips to

935
00:52:51,090 --> 00:52:53,370
see boots on the ground subs in
the water if there are indeed

936
00:52:53,370 --> 00:52:57,180
any subs in the water anymore.
feet in the air and all the days

937
00:52:57,180 --> 00:52:57,900
and nights out there

938
00:52:57,930 --> 00:53:00,720
in the morning everybody in the
chat room no agenda stream.com

939
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:03,450
Good to see y'all there
depleting your $9.2 million

940
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:07,620
value slowly over time in the
morning to our artists nick the

941
00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:11,760
RAD Thank you very much for your
your work on the album art for

942
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,210
episode 678 What album What else
did you use in the newsletter?

943
00:53:15,210 --> 00:53:15,660
John?

944
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:17,430
It was some I you know,

945
00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:20,490
I wrote it down so we shouldn't
be crediting these people.

946
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,480
I know I should I feel bad about
this. It was so very old piece

947
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,020
of art that I found in the
Evergreen box. Okay, when it

948
00:53:28,020 --> 00:53:29,310
seemed to fit that bill next
time

949
00:53:29,310 --> 00:53:31,740
you do that just just put it in
and put it down below in the

950
00:53:31,740 --> 00:53:35,520
newsletter. Good art copyright.
Yes, I'm a credit. It's nice.

951
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:35,700
Yeah,

952
00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:39,180
I feel I feel bad now should
Thanks for making me feel bad in

953
00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:42,360
the middle of the show anytime.
But we do have some people to

954
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,870
thank and I feel better after I
thank them, including sir Oscar

955
00:53:45,870 --> 00:53:52,170
Nadal, who came in with $936.72.
With the commentary, karma

956
00:53:52,170 --> 00:53:56,340
works, more details to come and
a bigger donation.

957
00:53:56,820 --> 00:53:57,450
Oh,

958
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,350
hold on a second. So that's kind
of interesting. And what

959
00:54:01,350 --> 00:54:01,860
happened?

960
00:54:02,250 --> 00:54:05,400
Maybe he won the lottery. And
what an interesting number is

961
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,450
there? Is there a clue?

962
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:09,630
No, this is all he says we win
the number. No.

963
00:54:09,870 --> 00:54:16,650
Let me just see if I have any
emails from him. No.

964
00:54:18,540 --> 00:54:19,740
Yeah, I didn't see your age.

965
00:54:19,740 --> 00:54:24,840
No, I don't know. Well, I'm not
going to look the proverbial

966
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,460
gift horse in the mouth. Of
course not. I'm very happy.

967
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:32,430
Thank you very much, sir. Oscar
Nadal. All right. Give him some

968
00:54:32,430 --> 00:54:33,480
more karma since you know.

969
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,230
Really talk about karma

970
00:54:37,260 --> 00:54:39,570
on ride on

971
00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:43,260
Roger boots in Macau.
Mechanicsville, Iowa sent us

972
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:48,570
$500 I can find nothing from
him. It was that PayPal? Yes, it

973
00:54:48,570 --> 00:54:53,040
was it was a PayPal donation.
And it came in and it didn't it

974
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,040
came into regular through the
regular channel of PayPal. So

975
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,620
you had an opportunity to send
in a note that you could have

976
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,490
emailed us but we got Nothing so
and Thank you Roger. I'm looking

977
00:55:02,490 --> 00:55:08,130
I don't see anything. Sir H and
M fic. In Vermont ahead MoPhO in

978
00:55:08,130 --> 00:55:13,770
charge 33333 Blacknight of the
US Army. Yes Blacknight of the

979
00:55:13,770 --> 00:55:16,800
US Army All right, what does he
say? He's a law little note here

980
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,250
seeing is how my last attempt at
doing a drunk donation went

981
00:55:20,250 --> 00:55:23,370
about as well as Helen Keller
playing musical chairs.

982
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:28,620
And now we know that he's he's
up there in age with his

983
00:55:28,620 --> 00:55:29,100
reference.

984
00:55:31,350 --> 00:55:35,910
Yes, I decided to wait till his
sober right to know this magic

985
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:38,610
number donation helps combat the
drop in donations around the

986
00:55:38,610 --> 00:55:42,510
holidays which there is a slight
drop highly included in this

987
00:55:42,510 --> 00:55:45,390
donation is the back pay for my
promotion from staff sergeant to

988
00:55:45,390 --> 00:55:49,260
Sergeant First Class on December
6, oh congratulate have now

989
00:55:49,260 --> 00:55:52,170
joined the ranks of senior
noncommissioned officers and

990
00:55:52,170 --> 00:55:54,510
wanted to include the no agenda
nation and celebrating by

991
00:55:54,510 --> 00:55:57,570
donating the extra chunk of
change to the best podcast in

992
00:55:57,570 --> 00:56:00,210
the universe. Excellent. What I
was trying to say in my last

993
00:56:00,210 --> 00:56:03,240
donation note was that you are
both correct in the matter of

994
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:06,390
the Department of Defense,
telling servicemen to remove

995
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:09,270
their military affiliation
pictures etc from social media

996
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:13,140
due to the suppose a threat from
Toyota truck commercial known as

997
00:56:13,140 --> 00:56:19,110
ISIS is a huge Did you see the
did you get to note about this

998
00:56:19,110 --> 00:56:19,890
guy? Yeah,

999
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,600
the plumber in Texas. Yeah, the

1000
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,190
plumber Texas sells his car.
Yeah, okay, fine. You know the

1001
00:56:26,190 --> 00:56:28,950
story. Of course, I know the
story. Tell us the story. The

1002
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:34,140
story is we have this plumber in
Texas who has a Ford F 250.

1003
00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:36,420
Actually, I have a little clip
for you. They're starting

1004
00:56:36,420 --> 00:56:39,180
with a story that is getting
national attention. A truck

1005
00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:42,180
belonging to a Texas City
company pictured in a tweet that

1006
00:56:42,180 --> 00:56:45,300
looks like it's coming from a
terrorist organization and

1007
00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:48,060
now the company is getting
threats and is worried for their

1008
00:56:48,060 --> 00:56:49,050
employees safe.

1009
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,300
So there's this picture and it
shows his truck with his his

1010
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:58,770
Awan whatever his plumbing name
is on the side still, even with

1011
00:56:58,770 --> 00:57:01,920
the phone number even with the
Texas tags, you can kind of see

1012
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:08,190
that in the picture. And and is
now being said that this truck

1013
00:57:08,580 --> 00:57:14,730
somehow magically flew over or
floated over to ISIS in the

1014
00:57:14,730 --> 00:57:17,550
Middle East. And let me just say
this is the biggest bunch of

1015
00:57:17,550 --> 00:57:23,850
bull crap I've seen in a long
time. A no terrorist in the ISIS

1016
00:57:23,850 --> 00:57:27,930
group will be caught dead
driving a Ford it's Toyota. This

1017
00:57:27,930 --> 00:57:30,870
is clear this isn't I don't know
Ford is trying to weasel in on

1018
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:35,580
the business is not happening.
The second thing tweet should

1019
00:57:35,580 --> 00:57:39,480
meet this picture. As far as I
this could be from Abilene, this

1020
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,070
picture. This this could be in
Mexico where ISIS of course is

1021
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:48,330
you know, we know ISIS is in
Mexico. This is not that some

1022
00:57:48,330 --> 00:57:52,500
terrorist in the Middle East
with the Ford F 250. This is

1023
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:57,300
bullcrap. Yeah. Then I'm not
even sure the picture isn't

1024
00:57:57,300 --> 00:57:58,200
photoshopped.

1025
00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:02,010
And I'm sure it is. Like it.
Yeah, it's just like why this

1026
00:58:02,010 --> 00:58:04,260
guy's truck has always been the
question on my mind. What are

1027
00:58:04,260 --> 00:58:06,570
they trying to ruin this
company? Could have been done by

1028
00:58:06,570 --> 00:58:07,350
a competitor.

1029
00:58:07,710 --> 00:58:10,410
It's just someone tweeted that.
It's just fun. It's just fun.

1030
00:58:10,410 --> 00:58:15,480
You know? Here's how it goes.
Hey, man, look at look at the

1031
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,810
North Koreans man to taken all
our media juice. We got to do

1032
00:58:18,810 --> 00:58:19,290
some.

1033
00:58:19,980 --> 00:58:20,850
I know.

1034
00:58:22,620 --> 00:58:23,940
We could have come up with it.
And I mean,

1035
00:58:24,089 --> 00:58:28,199
anyway, it goes on. Or H or H M
and high

1036
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,730
school phone charge? Yes.

1037
00:58:31,020 --> 00:58:34,860
It's a huge insult to us to
suggest that we the US military

1038
00:58:34,860 --> 00:58:40,470
aka America's throbbing cock of
justice should cower in fear

1039
00:58:40,530 --> 00:58:43,740
because of the empty words of an
enemy that does not have the

1040
00:58:43,740 --> 00:58:47,250
means to follow through to tell
those that have deployed,

1041
00:58:47,250 --> 00:58:50,010
engaged and destroyed the enemy
and closed COC this white

1042
00:58:50,010 --> 00:58:55,830
doesn't want his name revealed.
Sorry, Jay. Get in here. Darren

1043
00:58:55,980 --> 00:58:58,620
fear because of the empty words
of an enemy that does not have

1044
00:58:58,620 --> 00:59:00,600
the means to follow through to
tell those that have deployed

1045
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,240
engaged and destroy the enemy in
close combat overseas that they

1046
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,200
should now be afraid on their
own soil is preposterous.

1047
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,550
Exactly. The reaction to this
from combat Vets has been pretty

1048
00:59:11,550 --> 00:59:15,090
solid. Let him come chat when
you allow yourself to be

1049
00:59:15,090 --> 00:59:20,280
terrorized the terrorists when
Marika morale when that can eat

1050
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,410
a shit he's got a birthday call.
I think he's got a birthday

1051
00:59:22,410 --> 00:59:23,010
coming up. We do have

1052
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:26,760
I think I think he means
America. Not Maria.

1053
00:59:26,790 --> 00:59:30,240
But what I say Maria Marie, I
like Marika, America.

1054
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:32,850
There's a need for a rescue
mission. When the world is

1055
00:59:32,850 --> 00:59:36,240
threatened. The world needs
help. calls on American

1056
00:59:42,990 --> 00:59:45,060
story America, Marika.

1057
00:59:45,450 --> 00:59:52,320
Steven McGaha another he's an
APO somewhere in the middle

1058
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,730
east. East it looks like it
sends a letter in Oh no. He also

1059
00:59:56,730 --> 01:00:00,000
donated 333 33. So our
militaries and on three three

1060
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,850
3333 This time thank you for
what you do in your courage. I

1061
01:00:02,850 --> 01:00:06,090
attempted to make a contribution
of 333 33 Mark of the Beast I

1062
01:00:06,090 --> 01:00:09,840
did it through the Pay Pal link,
but not sure it went through. If

1063
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,920
it did, yes it did. All I wanted
some Obama 18 which you just

1064
01:00:13,950 --> 01:00:17,970
sprayed? I didn't know that.
Yes, that's a little kid

1065
01:00:17,970 --> 01:00:24,420
Boom shaka laka and some karma
Okay, which is Sir the steel on

1066
01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:28,230
Brussel the subject of Baron
Baron von Pels. Ma

1067
01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:29,910
Very nice. Very nice. All right
here.

1068
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,800
You've got karma, right. Look

1069
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,400
it next. Next kid. Next kid.

1070
01:00:38,580 --> 01:00:40,530
Next kid next kid is next kid.

1071
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:47,760
Barwin Underwood 23456 in
Hamilton, Ohio. ITM gentlemen

1072
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,490
because of the session filmed
out because the session timed

1073
01:00:50,490 --> 01:00:53,970
out. typing my first note I've
gone from slightly buzzed to

1074
01:00:53,970 --> 01:01:00,210
total drunk donation will be
please give a UPS I gotta expand

1075
01:01:00,210 --> 01:01:05,880
this. Yeah, no, it doesn't do
page wrap anyway. To recap the

1076
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,430
original note please give a
homebuying karma shout out to my

1077
01:01:08,430 --> 01:01:12,300
brother sir metal Mike. Search
searching for a new home can be

1078
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:15,390
a bitch. Sorry. donations have
been low during the holidays. I

1079
01:01:15,390 --> 01:01:18,150
made an effort to donate for
November and here's my donation

1080
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:21,990
for December something more
about a six sided stop sign that

1081
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:24,390
doesn't exist reminded me to
donate again.

1082
01:01:25,350 --> 01:01:29,640
Right. I think we programmed
people if they saw the six sided

1083
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,940
stop sign it was time to donate
which is why this failed because

1084
01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:36,720
of course stop signs have eight
sides. Yes. So we programmed

1085
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:37,650
incorrectly it's

1086
01:01:40,170 --> 01:01:44,490
amateurish we're no North
Koreans he needs to do the head

1087
01:01:44,490 --> 01:01:48,120
Boom shakalaka Anna Reverend
Sharpton resist we much All

1088
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:48,510
righty.

1089
01:01:49,800 --> 01:02:00,510
thing go boom. Resist. We must.
We must. And we will much about

1090
01:02:01,170 --> 01:02:03,750
that. Karma.

1091
01:02:05,550 --> 01:02:06,300
Next Rev.

1092
01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:15,060
Carl of London, the UK 23456
requesting a de douching and

1093
01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:18,870
karma that is all finally
stepping up. his longtime

1094
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:25,410
Boehner won't be the last right
You bet. You've been de deuced

1095
01:02:27,810 --> 01:02:31,500
you've got karma. Right.

1096
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,700
James Ogilvy in Simsbury
Connecticut. Tune in $10.12

1097
01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:41,490
He'll be our last Associate
Executive Producer here for show

1098
01:02:41,490 --> 01:02:45,570
679 ITM boys meant to send this
in last week, so I'd be a

1099
01:02:45,570 --> 01:02:49,440
producer for my birthday show.
1214 But I was too busy

1100
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:56,850
spinning. And I get a D
Dutching. Hot Pockets. Dear Kiki

1101
01:02:57,180 --> 01:03:02,430
or dr. D Dizzy Dan. College I
can afford karma for my daughter

1102
01:03:02,430 --> 01:03:05,760
Rowan. Please keep up the great
work. Jimbo.

1103
01:03:06,420 --> 01:03:09,510
Does he want a new Dr. Kiki it
was worth it. He's one of the

1104
01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:10,740
science Dr. Kiki.

1105
01:03:10,770 --> 01:03:12,090
He just said Dr. Kiki.

1106
01:03:12,210 --> 01:03:13,350
I'll do the new Dr. Kiki.

1107
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,340
Ben de deuced

1108
01:03:23,610 --> 01:03:25,230
you've got karma

1109
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:28,530
rockin and rollin? And that

1110
01:03:29,610 --> 01:03:34,080
concludes the 679 donation
segment I want to for producers

1111
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,150
and executive producers. I want
to thank them all reminding

1112
01:03:36,150 --> 01:03:39,120
people we do have a show coming
up on Sunday. Just a few days

1113
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,840
away at divorce that org slash
and a to help us out on that

1114
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:43,260
day.

1115
01:03:43,290 --> 01:03:47,070
I also have a note here from Sir
David Foley got cut off of his

1116
01:03:47,070 --> 01:03:52,860
donation for Sir London who
presented episode 678 If you saw

1117
01:03:52,860 --> 01:03:58,470
the credits, he said anyone who
buys my new Christmas album? Oh

1118
01:03:58,470 --> 01:04:01,770
yes, grand dude. David Foley has
a Christmas album out. Did you

1119
01:04:01,770 --> 01:04:07,290
know what? Yes. Yes. On iTunes.
Ben if you email him the receipt

1120
01:04:07,290 --> 01:04:11,850
between now and the end of 2014.
He will donate the proceeds to

1121
01:04:11,850 --> 01:04:15,840
the no agenda show with the New
Year's donation. And you can

1122
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,400
find all the information at DEC
the house music.com of which I

1123
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:27,660
have a sample John. Apparently
the Grand Duke is a DJ house DJ

1124
01:04:27,660 --> 01:04:28,290
that is

1125
01:04:36,780 --> 01:04:41,310
sampler. Sounds good. Yeah, it's
great. It's called I don't have

1126
01:04:41,310 --> 01:04:41,970
it here. Hold on.

1127
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:49,470
It's called dec the house EDM
holiday songs electronic dance

1128
01:04:49,470 --> 01:04:50,940
music holiday songs.

1129
01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:52,590
I didn't think he was a house
guy.

1130
01:04:52,590 --> 01:04:57,150
Oh, yeah. Yeah, used to he's a
radio guy. I'm learning about

1131
01:04:57,450 --> 01:05:02,250
the Grand Duke. He used to work
in Boston. And he was spinning

1132
01:05:02,250 --> 01:05:04,950
the vinyls, man, vinyl, real
vinyl.

1133
01:05:05,339 --> 01:05:07,349
Anyway he thinks about dubstep.

1134
01:05:08,790 --> 01:05:13,770
Some gum do. Thank you very
much, David Foley sir The Grand

1135
01:05:13,770 --> 01:05:16,710
Duke dec the house music.com.
And thank everybody else our

1136
01:05:17,220 --> 01:05:19,320
executive producers and
Associate Executive producers

1137
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,580
for helping us with show Six,
Seven Niner we are doing the

1138
01:05:23,580 --> 01:05:26,430
best to give you all the value
that you want to derive from it.

1139
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,130
Your credits are what you get in
return. And of course those are

1140
01:05:29,130 --> 01:05:33,630
real. If anyone brings them into
question, we will gladly vouch

1141
01:05:33,630 --> 01:05:34,140
for you

1142
01:05:34,260 --> 01:05:37,500
devora.org/and

1143
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,430
A, and of course, always do we
need our Legion to go out and

1144
01:05:41,430 --> 01:05:43,410
propagate the formula. Our
formula

1145
01:05:43,410 --> 01:05:47,370
is this, we go out, we hit
people in the mouth

1146
01:06:02,070 --> 01:06:02,670
we go

1147
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,830
it's a good time to be alive.
Good time to be alive. I

1148
01:06:07,830 --> 01:06:13,140
say. But so I have this clip I
want to saved which this is from

1149
01:06:13,140 --> 01:06:17,190
NCIS I'm gonna get enough of
these crazy clips in. And this

1150
01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:21,150
is just this is the power and
power grid attack clip from the

1151
01:06:21,150 --> 01:06:24,780
last show it was just on the
other night. That's actually

1152
01:06:24,780 --> 01:06:25,980
insane as La

1153
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:30,270
from see bug. At the time of the
break in only one file was

1154
01:06:30,270 --> 01:06:35,880
downloaded onto a thumb drive.
860 kilobytes it's not that

1155
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:47,250
much. But it's enough to count.
Yeah. What do you got? Well, I

1156
01:06:47,250 --> 01:06:51,600
managed to ID the malware seems
to affect something called PLCs

1157
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,600
programmable logic controllers.
They're used in industrial

1158
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,660
computer systems to control
automation of industrial

1159
01:06:57,660 --> 01:07:01,170
systems. Well, the specific PLC
is that this malware targets are

1160
01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:05,520
only found in US electric power
plants, guys. This bug could

1161
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,410
crash the entire nation's
granted for

1162
01:07:07,410 --> 01:07:10,500
weeks. No power, no
communications, no heat.

1163
01:07:11,820 --> 01:07:16,470
No Netflix is what they should
have said no heat, no Netflix,

1164
01:07:17,070 --> 01:07:17,760
Netflix.

1165
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:23,730
They're going to be honest about
it. Oh my gosh. This is assuming

1166
01:07:23,730 --> 01:07:27,270
of course that the entire
country has the exact same lash

1167
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:32,040
up which is not the case. Of
course. No, no, no. So I you

1168
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,770
know radio stations being all
the same. They're not you

1169
01:07:34,770 --> 01:07:35,220
brought up

1170
01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:41,220
Cuba in that related to Sony
clip. Of course, I watched the

1171
01:07:42,570 --> 01:07:50,190
the State Department briefing
from yesterday. I do have to say

1172
01:07:50,220 --> 01:07:55,800
I'm impressed with Jen Psaki. I
really am this girl. She has to

1173
01:07:55,830 --> 01:07:58,260
you know, she has all these
papers and she has little tabs

1174
01:07:58,260 --> 01:08:00,930
and when someone says oh, it's
going to be Cuba, but they can

1175
01:08:00,990 --> 01:08:05,040
easily go to sony they can go to
any any topic, ISIS ISIL she has

1176
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,940
different ones or ISIS or ISIL.
And she whips that open. It's

1177
01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:13,140
just she starts talking, she
must have so much going on in

1178
01:08:13,140 --> 01:08:15,900
her head. I'm impressed. I have
to say

1179
01:08:15,930 --> 01:08:21,420
I can. I'm not impressed
unnecessarily. But I will say

1180
01:08:21,420 --> 01:08:24,150
that she is one of the slickest
that I've seen

1181
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:27,809
in that very, very slick,
extremely slick, and she makes

1182
01:08:27,809 --> 01:08:28,469
Marie

1183
01:08:29,609 --> 01:08:32,669
look stupid, like an amateur
look stupid exotic ovaries

1184
01:08:32,669 --> 01:08:33,749
trying to get her job.

1185
01:08:34,649 --> 01:08:40,049
We know that. And so I watched
the entire briefing I've watched

1186
01:08:41,249 --> 01:08:44,039
report after report after
report. And I think what happens

1187
01:08:44,039 --> 01:08:47,579
even Matt didn't didn't bring it
up. Matt Lee, Matthew Lee from

1188
01:08:47,789 --> 01:08:54,209
AP the AR guy are the savior of
journalism. Because I think what

1189
01:08:54,209 --> 01:08:58,979
happens is particularly
journalists, they hear they hear

1190
01:08:58,979 --> 01:09:02,189
all this we're going to open the
gates we're going to change

1191
01:09:02,189 --> 01:09:06,119
something with with Cuba. And
then immediately they're all

1192
01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:11,009
thinking about, you know, Bay of
Pigs and, and and Castro but no

1193
01:09:11,009 --> 01:09:16,019
one really looked at besides the
so called shipment to North

1194
01:09:16,019 --> 01:09:23,429
Korea. What happened in July, it
was just July that the following

1195
01:09:23,429 --> 01:09:26,159
took place and I went back to
the Clip Bin I pulled out a 25

1196
01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:29,699
second clip, which has as far as
like, as far as I know, has not

1197
01:09:29,699 --> 01:09:35,999
been brought up as a in any
relation to the new. The New

1198
01:09:35,999 --> 01:09:38,429
Deal we are trying to put
together with Cuba,

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01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,160
we can enroll a customer with a
rubber stamp an unprecedented

1200
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,850
agreement, Moscow is writing off
90% of Cuba's deaths to the USSR

1201
01:09:44,850 --> 01:09:48,180
that's $32 billion astronomical
money for a poor country like

1202
01:09:48,180 --> 01:09:51,210
Cuba, the remaining 10% will be
reinvested into social

1203
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,510
infrastructure projects on Cuba.
The intrigue is what Havana will

1204
01:09:54,510 --> 01:09:57,630
offer in return. Speculation
takes in everything from major

1205
01:09:57,660 --> 01:10:00,510
oil deals. Cuba potentially has
a lot of it but how is no money

1206
01:10:00,510 --> 01:10:03,900
to extract to rebuilding Soviet
military bases on the islands?

1207
01:10:04,410 --> 01:10:04,770
Okay,

1208
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,410
no one is mentioning the $34
billion

1209
01:10:08,849 --> 01:10:12,959
gift from Putin. $34 billion

1210
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,620
and military bases and,

1211
01:10:17,460 --> 01:10:18,510
and oil.

1212
01:10:19,620 --> 01:10:25,410
Why bother even bringing it up?
Why bother? We have a long

1213
01:10:25,470 --> 01:10:29,160
longish email from Cuban
producer who was born in Cuba.

1214
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:34,020
Lived in Havana for eight years.
Do you want to have this like,

1215
01:10:34,020 --> 01:10:34,260
yeah,

1216
01:10:34,260 --> 01:10:38,250
I want to read it in segments as
you see fit. I

1217
01:10:38,250 --> 01:10:41,010
think it's probably a good idea.
A little background is born in

1218
01:10:41,010 --> 01:10:43,440
Cuba lived in Havana for eight
years. He's in his mid 20s. Now

1219
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:47,100
came over to the US with his
family through the Cuban lottery

1220
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:49,980
visa program. But since then,
he's gone back a couple of times

1221
01:10:49,980 --> 01:10:53,400
to visit family. He says you
know, whatever is motivating the

1222
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,010
US and Cuba to do this. Now I'll
leave up to you and John, but

1223
01:10:56,010 --> 01:10:58,320
what I can talk about is my
experience living in Cuba for a

1224
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,860
short time, my family's history
and his visits. Anywhere you

1225
01:11:01,860 --> 01:11:04,140
look on walking down the streets
of Havana, you see people who've

1226
01:11:04,140 --> 01:11:07,770
been beaten into submission. The
police were military uniforms,

1227
01:11:07,770 --> 01:11:10,620
carry assault rifles, say
anything bad about the

1228
01:11:10,620 --> 01:11:12,840
government anywhere but in your
own home and privately you will

1229
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,690
get a knock on the door and the
butt of a rifle across your face

1230
01:11:15,690 --> 01:11:19,590
or worse, be imprisoned. several
family members of mine have had

1231
01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:22,860
their arms broken because they
spoke ill of the government. All

1232
01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:25,140
over the country you find
propaganda spewing lies about

1233
01:11:25,140 --> 01:11:28,440
the US demonizing Americans,
whatever happens because of the

1234
01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:31,890
actions Obama has now taken will
only increase the propaganda.

1235
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,550
Billboards telling the Cuban
people they've won over the US

1236
01:11:35,550 --> 01:11:39,420
or the US has been bent under
their will. The best thing for

1237
01:11:39,420 --> 01:11:41,310
the Cuban people is for the
government officials who run the

1238
01:11:41,310 --> 01:11:44,550
country to be gone while they're
still there in power. Any aid

1239
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:47,040
that goes to that country, every
new business that opens up will

1240
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,910
only line their pockets leave
the people starving. And then he

1241
01:11:50,910 --> 01:11:55,590
goes into more details about how
bad it is. And then we'll finish

1242
01:11:55,590 --> 01:12:00,300
it up here. The prostitution
This is of course key. We're

1243
01:12:00,300 --> 01:12:03,690
always interested in
prostitution is abundant and up

1244
01:12:03,690 --> 01:12:09,150
in your face. I don't see how
this is a bad thing. The one

1245
01:12:09,150 --> 01:12:12,870
club and the one bar I went to
were filled with almost 90%

1246
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:16,860
Hookers with pimps waiting
outside. All young girls who

1247
01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:20,520
need the money as jobs and Kuba
can hardly pay for anything. The

1248
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,480
tourists these clubs were mostly
old foreign men taking advantage

1249
01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:28,530
of the situation sounds like
Thailand. Just a few notes here.

1250
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,770
The thought of more tourism just
frightens me more money for the

1251
01:12:31,770 --> 01:12:34,980
higher ups in government and
more citizens oppressed in the

1252
01:12:34,980 --> 01:12:35,490
morning.

1253
01:12:38,220 --> 01:12:42,150
That is the bonus play my Cuba
clip I got this one says Kadena

1254
01:12:42,210 --> 01:12:45,270
exchange anomaly, which I think
is kind of interesting.

1255
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:52,440
apart is the freeing of Cuba of
a US spy of a Cuban nationality

1256
01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:57,120
who had been held in Cuba for
the last two decades or so says

1257
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,820
the Obama administration This is
one of the highest ranking

1258
01:12:59,940 --> 01:13:03,810
intelligence assets the United
States had. That is as much as

1259
01:13:03,810 --> 01:13:07,530
we know about this person will
presumably stay anonymous for a

1260
01:13:07,530 --> 01:13:12,480
long time. Possibly forever.
Alan Gross his release that was

1261
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:14,340
really the spark that got things
going.

1262
01:13:14,970 --> 01:13:17,940
Yeah, that's pretty cool. Don't
talk about the spy. Yeah, nobody

1263
01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:20,880
mentions the spy and then if we
don't even know the spies name,

1264
01:13:20,970 --> 01:13:24,570
Eric looked at this as in In
fact, he saw it mentioned by the

1265
01:13:24,570 --> 01:13:28,410
government, it's plural there
may be two spies as possible.

1266
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,620
Now wherever the case is, they
can't mention his name. Don't

1267
01:13:31,620 --> 01:13:34,950
ever mention his name. And why
was he why why now would be the

1268
01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:39,570
question I'd ask which I believe
was answered by the oil. Yeah,

1269
01:13:40,020 --> 01:13:43,380
it's $34 billion good here but
Cuba we just want to get that

1270
01:13:43,380 --> 01:13:45,000
oil quick before

1271
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,200
Putin gets back here before they
like doing this. The guys the

1272
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,520
guys hosting the Winter
Olympics. Let's go screw with

1273
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,160
Ukraine. We can do it right now.
He's not paying attention. This

1274
01:13:56,160 --> 01:14:02,670
is perfect. We can do it right
now. Like doing this dude. Oh,

1275
01:14:02,670 --> 01:14:03,330
man.

1276
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:12,330
You cray cray.

1277
01:14:14,010 --> 01:14:18,060
Cool. Is that one? That's cute.
Let's Dave the douche. Makes

1278
01:14:18,060 --> 01:14:19,140
good. I love it.

1279
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:24,930
That's great. See, it's using
the cocaine riff riff. Yeah,

1280
01:14:25,020 --> 01:14:30,120
yes. Inserting Ukraine. Oh,
clever. So I've got one clip of

1281
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,930
Obama discussing this. He came
up with a long obviously a long,

1282
01:14:34,230 --> 01:14:39,120
boring exposition on bringing
Cuba back. By the way I want to

1283
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:43,200
mention my take on this. I've
always felt this Cuban embargo

1284
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,610
is crap. It's and I think by
isolating a country like this,

1285
01:14:47,610 --> 01:14:51,900
it just makes matters worse.
But, and I and I've always felt

1286
01:14:51,900 --> 01:14:54,690
this way since it began It
Should Have Ended like five

1287
01:14:54,690 --> 01:14:57,630
years after they started in the
60s. Right? But anyway, so

1288
01:14:57,630 --> 01:15:00,810
here's all by his I just took a
little bit of this They just

1289
01:15:00,810 --> 01:15:03,330
kind of give us a feeling for
what Obama's talking about when

1290
01:15:03,330 --> 01:15:04,080
he brings it up.

1291
01:15:04,620 --> 01:15:09,060
At a time when we are focused on
threats from al Qaeda to ISIL. A

1292
01:15:09,060 --> 01:15:11,760
nation that meets our conditions
and renounces the use of

1293
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:17,850
terrorism should not face the
sanction. Third, we are taking

1294
01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:21,030
steps to increase travel,
commerce, and the flow of

1295
01:15:21,030 --> 01:15:24,570
information to and from Cuba
information. This is

1296
01:15:24,570 --> 01:15:29,370
fundamentally about freedom, and
openness, and also expresses my

1297
01:15:29,370 --> 01:15:33,030
belief in the power of people to
people engagement. With the

1298
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:35,760
changes I'm announcing today, it
will be easier for Americans to

1299
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,330
travel to Cuba, and Americans
will be able to use American

1300
01:15:39,330 --> 01:15:43,170
credit and debit cards on the
island. Nobody represents

1301
01:15:43,170 --> 01:15:46,410
America's values better than the
American people. And I believe

1302
01:15:46,410 --> 01:15:50,040
this contact will ultimately do
more to empower the Cuban

1303
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:50,850
people. Okay, there's

1304
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,400
there's some language in there
that I think is quite telling.

1305
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:58,620
We are connecting our payment
systems to Cuba before anybody

1306
01:15:58,620 --> 01:16:02,670
else can connect their payment
systems? That's a big deal. I

1307
01:16:02,670 --> 01:16:04,440
think that's the biggest part of
the whole deal.

1308
01:16:04,890 --> 01:16:07,650
Well, I think there's a number
of things. I think that's one

1309
01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:10,320
item, I think it's very
important. I think another item

1310
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:14,880
is the oil. And I think this
third item is the QRP. And it

1311
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,070
has to be going on in the
background. Because the

1312
01:16:17,070 --> 01:16:19,920
Canadians have been going back
and forth and back and forth to

1313
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,460
Cuba. And they're buying up the
place. Oh, really? Oh, they but

1314
01:16:23,460 --> 01:16:26,310
this has been going on for I
don't know how many years. Some

1315
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:28,950
Canadian listener could tell me.
But they've been going back and

1316
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:31,890
forth and back and forth, or
buying up the choice land on the

1317
01:16:31,890 --> 01:16:35,730
beaches for hotels, and doing
all the stuff that we should we

1318
01:16:35,730 --> 01:16:39,600
should be doing or at least
Clinton should be doing. But get

1319
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,290
some prime real estate and we're
falling way behind. And we're

1320
01:16:43,290 --> 01:16:45,990
going to be playing catch up
when we finally start. And

1321
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,420
that's one of the biggest
elements is that Canadians?

1322
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,410
Ha ah, I didn't know about this
that yes. In fact, a lot of

1323
01:16:52,410 --> 01:16:52,650
people

1324
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:55,170
go to Cuba, they go through
Toronto, they don't go through

1325
01:16:55,170 --> 01:16:57,570
Mexico so much. Because there
are better flights out of

1326
01:16:57,570 --> 01:17:02,400
Toronto to Cuba. And I could go
for example, I could always go

1327
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,790
because as a journalist, you can
get a visa to go to Cuba but

1328
01:17:05,790 --> 01:17:09,390
Dale a tariff did the paperwork
going both ways. If you don't

1329
01:17:09,390 --> 01:17:11,670
want to, we don't want it on
your passport as

1330
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,050
I'm, I'm going to stick with the
oil and with the the

1331
01:17:16,050 --> 01:17:20,070
encroachment by Russia and Putin
visiting there just a few months

1332
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:25,620
ago, setting everything up $34
billion. That's more than

1333
01:17:25,620 --> 01:17:31,440
Ukraine has received it from the
IMF and US and the EU combined.

1334
01:17:32,190 --> 01:17:33,390
That's big money.

1335
01:17:35,490 --> 01:17:37,380
Well, we're getting shame out of
it. Well,

1336
01:17:37,410 --> 01:17:45,660
hello. So President Vladimir
Putin every month I guess he

1337
01:17:45,660 --> 01:17:50,190
does a podcast. Not like a
President Obama's podcast. You

1338
01:17:50,190 --> 01:17:52,650
know, the three four mid highly
everybody hears what's going on?

1339
01:17:53,190 --> 01:17:56,400
He does a three hour live show.
This is one of the shows where

1340
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:02,850
Ed Snowden once allegedly called
in, which was video pre taped

1341
01:18:02,850 --> 01:18:06,870
video, but okay. You remember
these these shows that he does?

1342
01:18:07,290 --> 01:18:13,140
Yeah. And I have a transcript. I
have a two pieces. I think it's

1343
01:18:13,140 --> 01:18:15,060
important even though it's
tough, kind of to listen to the

1344
01:18:15,060 --> 01:18:21,330
translator, and stuff in real
time. I, since no one else does

1345
01:18:21,330 --> 01:18:25,770
it. Except RT, I guess. I think
it's important to play just two

1346
01:18:25,770 --> 01:18:29,730
clips that were pertinent. And
it is a very freeform kind of

1347
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:35,340
discussion. In fact, the BBC is
John Simpson stood up and asked

1348
01:18:35,340 --> 01:18:38,820
this whole long had a really
long question. But the

1349
01:18:38,850 --> 01:18:41,940
ultimately he says, I played
I'll just play his question, not

1350
01:18:41,940 --> 01:18:43,380
the not Putin's answer here.

1351
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:49,050
Western countries almost
universally now believe that

1352
01:18:49,050 --> 01:18:54,030
there's a new Cold War, and that
you frankly have decided to

1353
01:18:54,060 --> 01:18:59,820
create that. We see almost daily
Russian aircraft, taking

1354
01:18:59,820 --> 01:19:03,990
sometimes quite dangerous
maneuvers towards Western

1355
01:19:04,050 --> 01:19:07,350
airspace that must be done. On
your orders. You're the

1356
01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:11,610
Commander in Chief, it must have
been your orders that sent

1357
01:19:12,150 --> 01:19:15,990
Russian troops into the
territory of a sovereign

1358
01:19:16,230 --> 01:19:21,300
country. Crimea first and then
whatever it is that's going on

1359
01:19:21,300 --> 01:19:22,560
in eastern Ukraine.

1360
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,250
The guy just goes on and on and
on. And to me this was scripted

1361
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:32,190
this shirt was you can play the
another Parliament flip would

1362
01:19:32,190 --> 01:19:33,030
fit right in.

1363
01:19:37,470 --> 01:19:41,610
It's kind of funny. They have
the audience, the live studio

1364
01:19:41,610 --> 01:19:45,810
audience, mainly journalists,
and they all have signs with

1365
01:19:45,810 --> 01:19:52,380
their broadcast affiliation on
them. In France. 24 has, uh,

1366
01:19:52,410 --> 01:19:55,740
their sign is with an Eiffel
Tower, just holding up the

1367
01:19:55,740 --> 01:19:59,220
Eiffel Tower. So I guess the
president can say oh, yeah, so

1368
01:19:59,220 --> 01:20:02,700
there's the French Guy it'll
recognize the the Eiffel Tower

1369
01:20:02,700 --> 01:20:06,390
sign. So this sounded very
scripted to me in the answer was

1370
01:20:06,420 --> 01:20:10,770
long and boring and not very
good. Here is something I did

1371
01:20:10,770 --> 01:20:13,800
like the bear analogy. Of
course, everyone talks about

1372
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,480
Russia being the bear and
President Putin. Again, it's a

1373
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:20,520
little tough listening to the
translator. I think if he really

1374
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,400
just set your mind to it for a
minute and a half here, it'll

1375
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:27,480
it'll be worth listening to his
whole bear scenario, which kind

1376
01:20:27,480 --> 01:20:31,020
of wraps up his thinking in one
nice bundle, I think,

1377
01:20:31,290 --> 01:20:36,810
well, there's no speaking
premiere in front of the Valdai

1378
01:20:36,810 --> 01:20:40,770
Club was no MEC will meet you. I
quoted an example that McCraney

1379
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:53,070
and I mentioned the gods his
thing is that sometimes, but I

1380
01:20:53,070 --> 01:21:03,840
said, this thing even comes to
my mind. She'll just quiet and

1381
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:04,410
just eat.

1382
01:21:05,970 --> 01:21:09,090
Are you able to follow it? Now?
You into it? Yeah, barely. But

1383
01:21:09,090 --> 01:21:12,240
go on. Yes, it's the bear
analogy says we just want the

1384
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,070
bear to sit quietly and eat it's
honey,

1385
01:21:14,850 --> 01:21:19,080
counting animals. They will
leave the brain piece will do

1386
01:21:19,350 --> 01:21:23,100
it. No, they will not. What they
tried to do is to change the

1387
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:25,170
bear, when they manage to change
the

1388
01:21:30,630 --> 01:21:34,440
fangs and claws, which defeats
This is how nuclear deterrence

1389
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:39,930
is working at the moment through
reviews. We could even hear that

1390
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:47,490
from officials saying that it
belongs to Russia. But how can

1391
01:21:47,490 --> 01:21:51,210
they say that here's I'm just
depressed, that have proven

1392
01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:55,740
Texas from Mexico is the right
thing

1393
01:21:55,740 --> 01:21:58,710
to do. I can't listen to it
anymore. You got to listen to it

1394
01:21:58,710 --> 01:22:00,450
yourself in the show notes too
much.

1395
01:22:01,410 --> 01:22:03,900
I find it was they get what
she's saying about Mexico.

1396
01:22:03,930 --> 01:22:08,520
These are the like they said
Siberia belongs to Russia, like

1397
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,240
Texas belongs to the USA. And he
says look, you took Texas back

1398
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:16,050
from Mexico rightly so. So he
brings his whole analogy and he

1399
01:22:16,050 --> 01:22:18,480
keeps going about the bear the
bear the bear the bear the bear.

1400
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,370
And the bear. declawed the bear,
but the most

1401
01:22:23,820 --> 01:22:27,240
of the you know, this sort of is
not as good as our material. No,

1402
01:22:27,270 --> 01:22:30,270
the most important question. And
by the way, what does anybody

1403
01:22:30,270 --> 01:22:34,980
bring up this sovereign Oh of
sovereign country? What is our

1404
01:22:35,460 --> 01:22:39,810
rolling into Iraq? That's not a
foreign army going into a

1405
01:22:39,810 --> 01:22:40,980
sovereign country?

1406
01:22:41,310 --> 01:22:44,820
We've been inviting crap out of
Libya. We've been invited.

1407
01:22:45,330 --> 01:22:48,540
You've been invited by Oh, I
don't remember the invite. Oh,

1408
01:22:48,540 --> 01:22:50,190
you didn't get the memo? No,

1409
01:22:50,190 --> 01:22:51,780
I didn't get the memo. Well,

1410
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:56,580
we were invited we Iraq we have
a deal with an MOU. We're

1411
01:22:56,580 --> 01:23:00,480
allowed to, you know, help them
to send in our advisors and our

1412
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:03,930
consultants in our trainers.
Yeah, don't you remember we had

1413
01:23:03,930 --> 01:23:06,870
like the new guy come in and the
old guy went out and then we got

1414
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:10,680
the Go ahead. That guy they
hung. Yeah. And just recently

1415
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,110
the other guy then it kicked him
out too. Yeah,

1416
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:16,350
the guys left kick guys out so
they don't go along with our

1417
01:23:16,350 --> 01:23:18,120
program as it's fine. And you

1418
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:23,250
have one piece of entertaining.
Bloody Mr. Putin. His girlfriend

1419
01:23:23,250 --> 01:23:30,780
was in the audience. Oh my god.
smokin hot. Huh? She looks 20

1420
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:34,650
She looks 25 She probably will
she must be if she looks hot.

1421
01:23:34,980 --> 01:23:37,560
And the President was asked
about his love life

1422
01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:41,190
first impression to have any
time for the personal life.

1423
01:23:41,940 --> 01:23:47,310
Well, please pass my previous
call to welcome to the friends

1424
01:23:47,310 --> 01:23:47,550
rooms.

1425
01:23:49,020 --> 01:23:50,640
This is shot of her and a friend
of

1426
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:58,290
mine from Europe recently told
me you know can be used to do

1427
01:23:58,290 --> 01:24:04,290
boy loves a little disco when
you love. What do you mean? Do

1428
01:24:04,290 --> 01:24:10,410
love someone? Yes, I do. And
anyone who doesn't love people

1429
01:24:10,410 --> 01:24:16,050
who love me. Everything is just
fine. Please don't worry. I have

1430
01:24:16,050 --> 01:24:20,310
very good relations with Mila
Revenger relations we see each

1431
01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:24,150
other regularly, of course, with
my children and actually

1432
01:24:24,150 --> 01:24:27,960
everything is fine as well. Even
though I do not see them as

1433
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,310
often as I would like.

1434
01:24:31,260 --> 01:24:35,370
To describe her look, she was
born in 83. I would describe her

1435
01:24:35,370 --> 01:24:39,930
look as us see University of
Southern California cheerleader.

1436
01:24:41,490 --> 01:24:42,840
Is that what she is?

1437
01:24:43,230 --> 01:24:47,400
No, but that's what she looks
like. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, she's

1438
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,790
got that cheer at G Cal Southern
California. cheerless. She looks

1439
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:53,190
like a, you know, one of those
women. There's millions of them

1440
01:24:53,190 --> 01:24:56,640
down there and they all look
kind of like this. Very pretty.

1441
01:24:56,670 --> 01:24:59,670
It's just I'm telling you,
what's Alena? Kub KUB Ava is

1442
01:24:59,670 --> 01:25:00,120
that her name? I'm

1443
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:08,430
Lea Alina kabhi viva, and it was
born Alina Mira Taverna

1444
01:25:09,030 --> 01:25:12,150
she's a gymnast. I think she's a
gymnast

1445
01:25:12,150 --> 01:25:13,440
that she knows or something.

1446
01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:15,450
Oh my goodness. She's a
contortionist.

1447
01:25:15,690 --> 01:25:18,270
Oh, you know, I dated a
contortionist once until she

1448
01:25:18,270 --> 01:25:19,110
broke it off.

1449
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:22,440
Yeah. Hey now everybody.

1450
01:25:23,220 --> 01:25:26,310
Oh, it's my in the morning. I
can't get an end to do here

1451
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:26,940
crashed.

1452
01:25:27,570 --> 01:25:31,650
That's part of that's part of
the crash system to get you

1453
01:25:31,650 --> 01:25:32,460
there in the morning.

1454
01:25:32,970 --> 01:25:35,070
And I was Yeah, she is a
contortionist. This is there's a

1455
01:25:35,070 --> 01:25:40,080
good picture of her on Jim stars
magazine. Bench user. Her head

1456
01:25:40,260 --> 01:25:45,600
is touching the back of her
legs. I saw that. San Diego

1457
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,240
strip bar. Yeah.

1458
01:25:48,450 --> 01:25:52,770
All righty. All righty then. So
if you want the entire

1459
01:25:53,670 --> 01:25:59,400
translation of his his show, is
in the shownotes 679 Dots. No

1460
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:06,030
agenda notes.com. And I don't
think I had much more on see

1461
01:26:06,030 --> 01:26:06,990
what else under the F.

1462
01:26:07,740 --> 01:26:10,140
I'm looking at his website
that's showing this woman daily

1463
01:26:10,140 --> 01:26:14,010
entertainment news. And the
first comment she is with

1464
01:26:14,010 --> 01:26:18,420
another Adolf Hitler. Oh, of
course. This time Adolf Putin is

1465
01:26:18,420 --> 01:26:21,720
his name killing and hurting
people that are trying to live

1466
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:27,240
and work he sends his he sends
in his bullies the ugliest men

1467
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:31,110
to hurt innocent people. I
really can't wait when they hang

1468
01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:31,470
him.

1469
01:26:31,530 --> 01:26:35,940
Oh, yes, that henchmen that'll
do. That'll be great. His devil

1470
01:26:35,940 --> 01:26:42,360
henchmen. I'm getting an email
from emails. From many people in

1471
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,590
the EU, they're very worried
about the the, the obvious

1472
01:26:46,590 --> 01:26:53,580
simultaneous collapse of oil and
the ruble. And Russians travel,

1473
01:26:53,700 --> 01:26:56,910
they travel a lot. They, they
certainly come to the United

1474
01:26:56,910 --> 01:26:59,640
States, but they also like to
travel in the EU. And a lot of

1475
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,560
them are not going to be able to
travel this year. And a lot of

1476
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,230
know now with the ruble
collapse. And the way it works,

1477
01:27:04,410 --> 01:27:08,670
the way I understand it. The
most Russians don't have a

1478
01:27:08,670 --> 01:27:12,570
mortgage. I think they own their
homes. Because when when Russia,

1479
01:27:12,630 --> 01:27:17,010
the former Soviet Union came
back, somehow we just had their

1480
01:27:17,010 --> 01:27:19,410
shit and they owned it. And the
note then you owe any money,

1481
01:27:20,610 --> 01:27:23,040
though, as it gets some
verification, that thesis.

1482
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:26,760
This is what I've read. I don't
know, I haven't looked into it

1483
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,180
too, you know, for full on
analysis. But they do have a lot

1484
01:27:30,180 --> 01:27:34,410
of disposable income. And a lot
of that, of course, is that the

1485
01:27:34,410 --> 01:27:38,070
Euro Round Robin, you know, they
they make money from Germany and

1486
01:27:38,070 --> 01:27:42,480
from from other European
countries EU with the gas, and

1487
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:45,570
oil, of course, and then they
they circulate that back into

1488
01:27:45,570 --> 01:27:50,310
the economy and EU. And this is,
especially when the President

1489
01:27:50,310 --> 01:27:54,480
signs off on the omnibus bill,
which includes all these other

1490
01:27:54,480 --> 01:27:58,410
great things we've been talking
about, but also the derivatives

1491
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:04,680
security before the American
banks, I think you're going to

1492
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:09,060
see, in particular Deutsche Bank
will. I'm not sure if Deutsche

1493
01:28:09,060 --> 01:28:10,770
Bank will be good or not,
depending on where they're

1494
01:28:10,770 --> 01:28:13,320
operating. But you're gonna see
some problems in Europe.

1495
01:28:16,260 --> 01:28:18,960
Yeah, and this is a shocker to
you.

1496
01:28:18,990 --> 01:28:22,800
No, no, not at all. I'm just
pointing out the obvious.

1497
01:28:23,580 --> 01:28:26,070
Yeah, of course. That's exactly
what we want. Yeah, fuck

1498
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:28,680
the EU. Yeah, that's what people
don't understand. This is not

1499
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,500
about Russia. What it? Well,
it's

1500
01:28:31,500 --> 01:28:32,640
partly about Russia. But

1501
01:28:32,850 --> 01:28:39,480
when you think about it, John,
what truly is the currency that

1502
01:28:39,480 --> 01:28:40,470
we don't like?

1503
01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:44,040
Oh, yeah, we don't like to EU
but I mean, the euro. But we

1504
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:48,240
don't like to. We don't also,
and the up and coming brick

1505
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,330
currency or the SR, DS or any of
these. We don't like any of this

1506
01:28:51,330 --> 01:28:56,310
stuff, because it ruins our
ability to print money. There's

1507
01:28:56,340 --> 01:29:01,470
Yes. That is it. All of a sudden
that we are the We Are The the

1508
01:29:01,470 --> 01:29:01,920
money.

1509
01:29:02,070 --> 01:29:04,110
And I Yes, we we are the

1510
01:29:04,110 --> 01:29:07,110
money. We're the reserve
currency. We are the

1511
01:29:07,110 --> 01:29:13,170
money in January 2015. The
Eurasian Economic Union comes

1512
01:29:13,170 --> 01:29:18,150
into effect. And I believe that
may have something to do with

1513
01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:25,350
this attack on the on the ruble.
This would bring together this

1514
01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:28,650
will bring together let me see
it's the EU. It's a political

1515
01:29:28,650 --> 01:29:32,070
and economic union, five member
states we have Belarus,

1516
01:29:32,070 --> 01:29:39,270
Kazakhstan, Russia, of course.
Kazakhstan. And is that five?

1517
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:45,840
Yes. And I believe that I'm not
sure how it works. And I'm not I

1518
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,420
have not I've only really just
learned about this Eurasian

1519
01:29:48,420 --> 01:29:53,970
Economic Union. I didn't really
know. I didn't get a memo. But I

1520
01:29:53,970 --> 01:29:57,120
think that that is of importance
that they the ruble needs to be

1521
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:01,350
as low as possible when this
thing kicks off. If that makes

1522
01:30:01,350 --> 01:30:02,070
any sense to you

1523
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,250
know, you have to explain why it
has to be as low as possible.

1524
01:30:05,250 --> 01:30:06,630
And this thing kicks off because
it's

1525
01:30:06,630 --> 01:30:11,340
an economic union. And if they
are, maybe they're going to do

1526
01:30:11,370 --> 01:30:14,070
let me see, I have an article
here. Let me read through this

1527
01:30:14,070 --> 01:30:14,640
for a second.

1528
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,210
think from our perspective, it
would be better we'd be better

1529
01:30:21,210 --> 01:30:25,860
we we use our schemers it would
be better off if the rule is

1530
01:30:25,860 --> 01:30:30,870
highest, when it kicked off and
then sync it then. Because then

1531
01:30:30,870 --> 01:30:33,420
it would it would hurt the
organization having the ruble

1532
01:30:33,420 --> 01:30:36,180
low, may have the opposite
effect, because it's not going

1533
01:30:36,180 --> 01:30:37,800
to stay low forever. No.

1534
01:30:40,290 --> 01:30:42,390
If you look at the charts,
you're a Chartist. You're a

1535
01:30:42,420 --> 01:30:46,440
historian, and certainly when it
comes to financials, looking at

1536
01:30:46,440 --> 01:30:50,730
the collapse of oil prices, was
that did that come? Just at the

1537
01:30:50,730 --> 01:30:55,290
same time as the 2008? Great
Recession?

1538
01:30:55,530 --> 01:30:59,520
No, no oil prices went up. It
was only it's very recent, this

1539
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,180
collapse of oil prices. I mean,
that's why it was so funny about

1540
01:31:03,180 --> 01:31:07,230
it, because it's so recent, and
just so quick. What do you

1541
01:31:07,230 --> 01:31:12,000
think? I think I think it's, I
don't know, I have I've been

1542
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:12,870
thinking about it.

1543
01:31:14,010 --> 01:31:16,980
You sit around on a Wednesday
night before the show thinking,

1544
01:31:17,190 --> 01:31:18,180
Yeah, I'm scratching my head,

1545
01:31:18,210 --> 01:31:19,260
can I do

1546
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:23,790
the deal with this oil collapse
because it is a it has a

1547
01:31:23,790 --> 01:31:26,940
profound impact on all sorts of
things. And I think it's a

1548
01:31:26,940 --> 01:31:30,990
repeat of what we saw a couple
of times now. Especially in the

1549
01:31:30,990 --> 01:31:35,010
70s when the oil prices
collapsed, and resulted in

1550
01:31:35,010 --> 01:31:37,980
putting out putting out of
business all the shale oil

1551
01:31:37,980 --> 01:31:40,830
people that's definitely going
to fractures out of business,

1552
01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:43,590
it's going to put a whole bunch
of people out of business

1553
01:31:43,590 --> 01:31:48,540
because they need oil to be in
60 ad, or no, they needed

1554
01:31:48,540 --> 01:31:51,300
typically to be over $80 But I
think some of these crazy

1555
01:31:51,300 --> 01:31:55,200
schemes you need $100 oil and
make it work and this is not

1556
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,080
going to this you're not going
to be pumping oil out of the

1557
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,870
ground. It's going to cost you
100 bucks to pump it out. And

1558
01:32:00,870 --> 01:32:04,800
you can sell it for 40 or 50 I
believe is going to hit the oil

1559
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:08,970
price is going to go down to 40
I personally really Yeah. I said

1560
01:32:08,970 --> 01:32:10,560
additional it's a traditional
price

1561
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,680
it's it's a tradition edition
and

1562
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,350
it will give everybody and you
know the American stock market

1563
01:32:16,350 --> 01:32:19,890
is going to getting flaky about
this because I don't know but in

1564
01:32:19,890 --> 01:32:23,070
fact it will stimulate the
economy because people have more

1565
01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:26,280
disposable income if they don't
tell you is 75 bucks in their

1566
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:30,570
tank every time they go to the
gas station or 100 we have

1567
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,510
here in Texas of course
everything's much cheaper here

1568
01:32:33,540 --> 01:32:38,580
certainly taxation cetera we are
down to dollars and 11 cents I

1569
01:32:38,580 --> 01:32:39,000
saw

1570
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:41,040
right what's the reg me?

1571
01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:44,760
Oh premium is going to be 230 I
still think

1572
01:32:45,090 --> 01:32:49,230
that's the deal. We our best
premium is about 280 which is

1573
01:32:49,230 --> 01:32:51,000
still going up very good dollars
good.

1574
01:32:51,030 --> 01:32:56,010
It was five when I left
California almost five there's

1575
01:32:56,010 --> 01:33:00,120
not just over five for premiums
though it was a gym. That's Los

1576
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:01,620
Angeles Jamesville.

1577
01:33:03,090 --> 01:33:06,150
Then of course we against
gypsies when I say that by the

1578
01:33:06,150 --> 01:33:07,020
way? Absolutely not.

1579
01:33:08,610 --> 01:33:16,470
Then of course we we had this
fantastic attack on chocolate in

1580
01:33:16,890 --> 01:33:26,010
Australia. This was really a
phenomenal event. This terrorist

1581
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:31,320
and moreover because we have
such a large contingent of

1582
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:36,510
producers in Australia, who were
really feeding on sending

1583
01:33:36,510 --> 01:33:40,770
reports and then scouring the
news trying to come up with you

1584
01:33:40,770 --> 01:33:46,590
know, angles etc. There had of
course not recently but a year

1585
01:33:46,590 --> 01:33:50,790
earlier there was there had been
a drill in the exact same

1586
01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:57,990
location Martin's place for this
exact scenario. Very convenient,

1587
01:33:57,990 --> 01:34:02,760
right across the way from the
ABC Studios where the morning

1588
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:09,840
show is is presented live. It's
very, very funny. Funny things

1589
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:16,620
that took place. I let me see I
have this is Ali. Are you still

1590
01:34:16,620 --> 01:34:22,710
with me, John? Yeah. Okay. This
is Ali Soufan. Ali Soufan. He

1591
01:34:22,710 --> 01:34:27,990
comes on to I guess it was the
CNNs. Then he is an ex FBI

1592
01:34:28,020 --> 01:34:31,830
counterintelligence guy. I think
it was on the national cutter

1593
01:34:31,830 --> 01:34:34,440
and Counter Intelligence
Council, and he has a book out,

1594
01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:38,190
of course, all the reasons you
bring him in, but even he really

1595
01:34:38,190 --> 01:34:41,220
couldn't make heads or tails of
what was going on with this guy.

1596
01:34:41,550 --> 01:34:44,310
And all the things that are
wrong, including including the

1597
01:34:44,310 --> 01:34:46,050
flag business. Yeah, that's

1598
01:34:46,050 --> 01:34:50,880
interesting. What a person who
supposedly planned all this and

1599
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:54,210
he gets there and he said, Oh, I
got the wrong flag. Something

1600
01:34:54,210 --> 01:34:58,650
here doesn't make sense. Scrap I
got the wrong flag. It gives us

1601
01:34:58,860 --> 01:35:02,190
an idea please. Just an insight
about the mentality of that

1602
01:35:02,190 --> 01:35:05,160
individual. What? What are you
thinking? What about his

1603
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,860
mentality? Well, it seems that
he's all over the place. He's

1604
01:35:07,860 --> 01:35:11,610
he's a criminal, he is trying to
cover his crime using religion.

1605
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:16,170
And he seems under a lot of
pressure from the court, he

1606
01:35:16,710 --> 01:35:20,310
allegedly was involved in about,
you know, dozens of police I

1607
01:35:20,310 --> 01:35:24,960
forget the exact sexual assaults
and then possibly killing his

1608
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,990
wife. So he want to go down as a
hero, not as a thug and not as a

1609
01:35:27,990 --> 01:35:31,440
criminal. It seems to me that
there's something fishy about

1610
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:34,050
the individual that
investigation is still early on.

1611
01:35:34,290 --> 01:35:37,680
I think I'll be, you know, very
anxious to see what the

1612
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,280
Australian police gonna find out
about the motivation about why

1613
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,970
he did that. But the flag that
he had with him, is basically a

1614
01:35:44,970 --> 01:35:48,840
black flag that has a shahada on
it. You know, there's no god but

1615
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:53,520
God and Muhammad is his prophet.
And that a flag on Black is

1616
01:35:53,550 --> 01:35:57,090
basically the original slog of
al Qaeda under Osama bin Laden

1617
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:01,560
is now with a nostra the added
jump had to nostra underneath it

1618
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,740
is the same one was Jabatan
nostra the Minister of front

1619
01:36:04,740 --> 01:36:07,740
underneath it, and that
indicates it is Al Qaeda

1620
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:13,320
Affiliated Organization in
Syria. The ISIS flag is a little

1621
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,890
bit different. It is black, it
has the same terminology, but it

1622
01:36:16,890 --> 01:36:21,600
has that circle at the bottom.
And it's a little bit different

1623
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:26,040
than al Qaeda flag. It indicates
the same narrative. Both of them

1624
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,460
indicates the narrative of Osama
bin Laden, both of them indicate

1625
01:36:29,460 --> 01:36:33,840
the narrative of bin Laden ism
if you want to call it but it

1626
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,960
depends which a flag you have
indicates who's your leader

1627
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:38,220
Baghdadi, or is a wiry?

1628
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,000
And it's kind of interesting,
how they they've tried a couple

1629
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,210
things here in Australia, they
had liked the

1630
01:36:45,210 --> 01:36:46,890
term bed laden ism.

1631
01:36:47,429 --> 01:36:51,599
It's good, isn't it? Yeah. Been
there. I don't think this guy

1632
01:36:51,599 --> 01:36:56,729
was not really prepared, I
guess, to be just came out and

1633
01:36:57,329 --> 01:37:00,749
said all the things that he that
he knew that he really knows

1634
01:37:00,749 --> 01:37:03,809
about, a lot of our producers
pointed out that simultaneously

1635
01:37:03,809 --> 01:37:09,269
with this terrorist attack with
the TV studios, I saw in the

1636
01:37:09,269 --> 01:37:12,359
chat room with Channel Seven,
also a CNN affiliate and CNN, of

1637
01:37:12,359 --> 01:37:18,959
course was all over this live
continuously. A lot of people

1638
01:37:18,959 --> 01:37:23,339
are saying our producers have
been sending me links about the

1639
01:37:23,339 --> 01:37:26,399
budget, the midterm budget being
presented at the exact same

1640
01:37:26,399 --> 01:37:30,869
moment, which was 10 billion
Australian dollars over budget,

1641
01:37:31,379 --> 01:37:36,569
which is a apparently was not
expected and was a was worth

1642
01:37:36,569 --> 01:37:41,069
covering up if this had anything
to do with it. And this and the

1643
01:37:41,069 --> 01:37:46,049
report that Australia has now
committed Oh had already

1644
01:37:46,049 --> 01:37:50,309
committed before this happened I
presume 1.3 billion Australian

1645
01:37:50,309 --> 01:37:55,259
dollars to fight Islamic state
terror in Iraq. And of course

1646
01:37:55,259 --> 01:37:59,879
you need buy in from from the
public. And we tried the the the

1647
01:37:59,909 --> 01:38:02,279
actors who were running around
pretending that they were going

1648
01:38:02,279 --> 01:38:05,459
to behead people that didn't
work very well. Remember that?

1649
01:38:05,819 --> 01:38:11,039
Yeah, Guy was an actor. He was
an actual actor. So that didn't

1650
01:38:11,039 --> 01:38:14,129
work. And now the headlines are,
you know, we are no longer

1651
01:38:14,129 --> 01:38:16,589
innocent. We are now a part of
this.

1652
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:20,730
So I lose a screwy event.

1653
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:25,170
Mike Morel was on the scene, I
think. Was he on the CBS Morning

1654
01:38:25,170 --> 01:38:30,390
Show. Mike Morell, of course
former CIA director he came on

1655
01:38:31,170 --> 01:38:33,240
was asked to comment on this,
we're gonna

1656
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:41,430
see this kind of, of terrorism
around the world. And we are

1657
01:38:41,430 --> 01:38:44,430
going to see it here nor we are
going to see this kind of attack

1658
01:38:44,430 --> 01:38:48,360
here. And we need to be prepared
for that. You know, it shouldn't

1659
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,210
surprise people when this
happens here sometime over the

1660
01:38:51,210 --> 01:38:52,050
next year or so.

1661
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,680
No guaranteed guarantee
guaranteed. He says it's the

1662
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:55,950
mike.

1663
01:38:56,670 --> 01:38:59,730
This is like though, the
guarantee that we picked up, I

1664
01:38:59,730 --> 01:39:01,950
was 2008 I gotta get that clip.

1665
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:07,380
But I have the clip. Hold on a
second. It was what we call it

1666
01:39:07,380 --> 01:39:08,070
again, it was

1667
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:13,530
iron stop Feinstein thinking
about having a massive 911 Like

1668
01:39:13,530 --> 01:39:15,990
event within the next six
months.

1669
01:39:16,740 --> 01:39:19,380
Now didn't I save that as you
had laid the

1670
01:39:19,710 --> 01:39:22,470
about a month or two ago? Right.
So I'm trying to think that I

1671
01:39:22,710 --> 01:39:26,400
it'd be fine Stein it would be
Yeah, hold on a second. But one

1672
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:29,460
hack the homeland homeland might
be one of the key words.

1673
01:39:30,420 --> 01:39:33,300
Wouldn't it be I think would be
Feinstein I think Yeah.

1674
01:39:33,300 --> 01:39:33,960
Feinstein

1675
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,570
is one of the her committee.
I've

1676
01:39:37,290 --> 01:39:41,190
I've done a great job. Good
work. Yeah. Thank you. You're

1677
01:39:41,190 --> 01:39:43,650
welcome. I don't know I don't
know why. I'm sorry. I don't

1678
01:39:43,650 --> 01:39:44,520
know how I messed that up.

1679
01:39:48,420 --> 01:39:50,910
Anyway, she asked you all these
hot shots, you know, they headed

1680
01:39:50,910 --> 01:39:54,900
as the head of that. Would it be
a terrorist attack like 911 in

1681
01:39:54,900 --> 01:39:59,640
the next six months? And every
one of them? Yes, it absolutely

1682
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,550
yes. See? What else coming still
waiting?

1683
01:40:02,580 --> 01:40:04,050
Um, that was how long ago?

1684
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:09,420
I think that was in 2008. Wow.
So now you know, it's about,

1685
01:40:09,780 --> 01:40:14,670
what, six years ago and it we're
still waiting unless you want to

1686
01:40:14,670 --> 01:40:18,120
call these bullcrap events, you
know something but they weren't

1687
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:19,290
they're not well, I'll add

1688
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:22,560
I will store this Mike morale
clip right next to her so we

1689
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,930
can't play either one in the
future. That'll be great. I'm

1690
01:40:24,930 --> 01:40:30,450
sorry about that. Philip Mudd.
Philip Mudd, why do I know this

1691
01:40:30,450 --> 01:40:30,900
name? And

1692
01:40:31,170 --> 01:40:33,540
might I know his name, too? In
fact, I think I had a PHILIP

1693
01:40:33,540 --> 01:40:37,110
MUDD clip. I haven't I have a
PHILIP MUDD clip. Lucy's been

1694
01:40:37,110 --> 01:40:39,360
floating around for some reason.
I mean, look him up. He must

1695
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:45,780
be a former US CIA guy. Of
course, CIA guy is very TV

1696
01:40:45,780 --> 01:40:51,090
ready. And of course, he's part
of the pond Pro. Program, the

1697
01:40:51,090 --> 01:40:54,450
pundit program. So they roll him
out for this. I remember

1698
01:40:54,450 --> 01:40:56,730
sitting at the table at the
agency, we used to do nightly

1699
01:40:56,730 --> 01:40:59,190
threat briefings with Director
Tennant, the CIA director in

1700
01:40:59,190 --> 01:41:04,080
2000 to 2003. And I remember one
thing happening that I never

1701
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:08,850
anticipated I thought we were
facing the architects of 911.

1702
01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:12,510
Then we started to see attacks
in Saudi Arabia, attacks in East

1703
01:41:12,510 --> 01:41:16,380
Africa, attacks in Madrid
attacks in London. And I started

1704
01:41:16,380 --> 01:41:19,650
thinking we're not only facing
al Qaeda, we were facing

1705
01:41:19,650 --> 01:41:23,340
affiliated organizations across
Africa, into the Philippines,

1706
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:27,090
into London. And then something
happened at about 2008.

1707
01:41:27,090 --> 01:41:30,450
Anderson, we started to see in
Minneapolis, Minnesota, in New

1708
01:41:30,450 --> 01:41:33,870
York, across this country, we
started see individuals you

1709
01:41:33,870 --> 01:41:36,390
remember on the West Coast, a
kid who was thinking about

1710
01:41:36,390 --> 01:41:39,720
attacking a Christmas tree
ceremony, we're seeing the

1711
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,960
genesis of a revolutionary
movement that is not connected

1712
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,990
to a core group. And if you want
to try to find those guys have a

1713
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:48,360
good time because I don't know
how you do have a good time

1714
01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:51,510
unfathomable. Philip Mudd was
the guy that was cited

1715
01:41:51,540 --> 01:42:00,450
specifically by the chief, the
Chief of Staff of Colin Powell.

1716
01:42:00,809 --> 01:42:02,669
Oh, right. Right. Right. Right.
Right.

1717
01:42:02,700 --> 01:42:07,470
We called tenet a liar. He lied
directly to Colin Powell. Mud

1718
01:42:07,470 --> 01:42:11,610
was in that same group. Yeah.
And he was sickened by muddy

1719
01:42:11,610 --> 01:42:14,730
says he's tired of him. Good
guy. It's a very funny clip.

1720
01:42:15,330 --> 01:42:17,220
Good guy. This this mud guy had

1721
01:42:17,220 --> 01:42:20,070
various mud guys. stooge of

1722
01:42:21,150 --> 01:42:26,400
what everybody is a stooge.
Yeah, I saw on ABC stage done

1723
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:32,580
ABC, ABC World News Tonight.
They are now using Radio Free

1724
01:42:32,610 --> 01:42:38,760
Europe Radio Liberty footage.
There they are literally taking

1725
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,300
the propaganda arm of America
taking their footage and putting

1726
01:42:42,300 --> 01:42:47,340
it on the domestic news. Yeah,
with a Chiron legal RFP. No,

1727
01:42:47,340 --> 01:42:52,110
it's not illegal. It used to be
it used to be an RFP RL. This is

1728
01:42:52,110 --> 01:42:55,410
the in fact if you look at I've
saved this page Hold on a

1729
01:42:55,410 --> 01:42:59,190
second. about Cuba. I think it
was me it was about was about

1730
01:42:59,190 --> 01:43:07,230
Cuba. Let me say there was no
I'm sorry. It was about Ukraine.

1731
01:43:07,230 --> 01:43:10,530
That's what it was. This called
the who are Ukraine's new

1732
01:43:10,530 --> 01:43:14,880
foreign born ministers. So just
just to give you the idea of

1733
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,550
what's going on here This is
Radio few Free Europe Radio

1734
01:43:17,550 --> 01:43:23,670
Liberty, which I think many
people are confused. I think

1735
01:43:23,670 --> 01:43:28,200
that it's very unclear that this
is a United States State

1736
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:33,660
Department sponsored paid for
operation I believe Millennials

1737
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:36,450
think Oh, this must be like the
radical guys you know they're

1738
01:43:36,450 --> 01:43:39,180
fighting for freedom press
freedom Radio Free Europe, free

1739
01:43:39,180 --> 01:43:43,500
Europe free liberty. And they do
this rundown. They say three

1740
01:43:43,500 --> 01:43:47,640
foreigners Natalie juris
dresscode Alvares Abramovich

1741
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:52,620
kiss and Alexandre COVID Seville
Lee, were approved as ministers

1742
01:43:52,620 --> 01:43:54,930
by Ukraine's parliament on
December 2. So these are the

1743
01:43:54,930 --> 01:43:59,370
people that that received a
citizenship overnight. But they

1744
01:43:59,370 --> 01:44:04,140
don't say that in their article.
They just say hey, you know,

1745
01:44:04,170 --> 01:44:06,810
this is this is who they are.
This is why they're qualified.

1746
01:44:06,810 --> 01:44:10,620
This is why they're great for
the country. Whereas we look at

1747
01:44:10,620 --> 01:44:15,480
this news and go holy crap. We
are literally putting our people

1748
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:19,680
from the former State Department
people into the government but

1749
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:24,180
that's not how this propaganda
works. It's fascinating great a

1750
01:44:24,180 --> 01:44:28,890
great time to be alive. Here's
Cooper Anderson Cooper this my

1751
01:44:28,890 --> 01:44:31,680
laps before we leave mud No, I
was gonna go back to mud but

1752
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,170
okay, good because I have I
think I'm gonna send you the

1753
01:44:34,170 --> 01:44:37,050
link gonna send it on Skype. I
wish I could show it Yeah, you

1754
01:44:37,050 --> 01:44:40,230
can do it on Skype. But go
Sandtown Scott This is a mud in

1755
01:44:40,230 --> 01:44:45,120
2013 on the Colbert show showing
apparently didn't never heard of

1756
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,820
the Colbert show. So this is
makes for nothing but awkward

1757
01:44:47,820 --> 01:44:51,210
humor and the guys who just
acting like a dick, but did you

1758
01:44:51,210 --> 01:44:52,680
send it to me yet? No, not yet.
I'm

1759
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,330
gonna do that. Now. You want me
to play that is that we

1760
01:44:54,780 --> 01:44:58,500
wanted to play it but it is I
but I placed a clip first.

1761
01:44:58,530 --> 01:45:00,750
Oh, okay. But send me that. Link
already.

1762
01:45:00,900 --> 01:45:02,550
I'm trying to get to this page.

1763
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:11,430
This is his the guy's name is
yes received. That wasn't loud

1764
01:45:11,430 --> 01:45:15,690
at all. Bring this. I didn't
hear it. Well, we might as well

1765
01:45:15,690 --> 01:45:18,120
just go straight into this. It's
I think it's playing.

1766
01:45:20,370 --> 01:45:23,490
My guest tonight is an
intelligence analyst who has

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01:45:23,490 --> 01:45:25,650
worked at both the CIA and the
F.

1768
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,170
It's a seven minute clip. He
wanted to just see how long it

1769
01:45:28,170 --> 01:45:29,160
lasts until we're bored.

1770
01:45:29,340 --> 01:45:33,990
Yeah. That means both of his
shoes, our phones, please

1771
01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:35,400
welcome PHILIP MUDD.

1772
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:39,210
Honey, and then apparently much
not having any of it because

1773
01:45:39,210 --> 01:45:42,780
my didn't know how the hell the
show works. Yeah, probably. But

1774
01:45:42,930 --> 01:45:43,590
we're gonna add it.

1775
01:45:45,090 --> 01:45:50,220
All right, Phil Mudd 25 years in
the intelligence world, Deputy

1776
01:45:50,220 --> 01:45:52,860
Director of the CIA's
Counterterrorism Center from

1777
01:45:52,860 --> 01:45:57,030
2003 to 2005, then became the
FBI senior intelligence adviser

1778
01:45:57,030 --> 01:46:01,560
and you've got a new book here
called take down inside the hunt

1779
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:05,280
for al Qaeda, right? Do we
really take down al Qaeda or

1780
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:10,710
should it be called spread out
inside the scattering of al

1781
01:46:10,710 --> 01:46:11,220
Qaeda?

1782
01:46:11,670 --> 01:46:15,480
No, I think if you looked at the
adversary we faced 12 years ago,

1783
01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:18,360
it bears no resemblance to what
we see today. The problem is

1784
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:21,480
that we don't face an al Qaeda
group today we face the remnants

1785
01:46:21,480 --> 01:46:23,250
of a revolution, a revolution.

1786
01:46:23,610 --> 01:46:27,120
All right, but I'll I'll skim it
for later. I don't think it's

1787
01:46:28,980 --> 01:46:31,110
to take a look at it later. So
I'm gonna get a good bite of it.

1788
01:46:31,110 --> 01:46:34,410
Apparently, he just can't get it
that this is a comedy show.

1789
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:37,740
He doesn't see the irony.
Alright, did they now we're

1790
01:46:37,740 --> 01:46:44,130
going to this guy. Majeed. Now,
vos Majeed Nivas. I actually put

1791
01:46:44,130 --> 01:46:51,390
his wiki page in the show notes
here. He is a I think he's a

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01:46:51,390 --> 01:46:54,030
liberal Democrat,
parliamentarian parliamentary

1793
01:46:54,030 --> 01:46:57,540
candidate for Hampstead, and
Kilburn, Brit, a founder of

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01:46:57,540 --> 01:47:02,280
Quilliam, counter extremism
Think Tank, himself a former

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01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:06,090
member of the Islamist
revolutionary group, his book,

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01:47:06,390 --> 01:47:11,910
Tahrir. He's the guy he's the go
to guy. He said he came over to

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01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:16,020
the the good side of history and
breathes enough for Anderson

1798
01:47:16,020 --> 01:47:20,010
Cooper to ask him all about this
terror attack in Australia, and

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01:47:20,010 --> 01:47:22,410
what should be done about it and
what is going on here and he has

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01:47:22,410 --> 01:47:23,580
a new term

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01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,580
for law enforcement has been
saying that this type of lone

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01:47:26,580 --> 01:47:30,000
wolf attack, is that is that the
ones that they're most concerned

1803
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,910
with? Do you believe it's a
mistake to call this guy a lone

1804
01:47:32,910 --> 01:47:33,330
wolf?

1805
01:47:33,780 --> 01:47:37,020
Yes, I think it is a mistake, I
would use the term self starter.

1806
01:47:37,230 --> 01:47:38,160
But the reason I think low

1807
01:47:38,850 --> 01:47:40,020
self starter,

1808
01:47:40,860 --> 01:47:41,640
a salesman

1809
01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:45,540
that he's gonna mention this a
couple of times, he was a self

1810
01:47:45,540 --> 01:47:49,980
starter lone wolf is out. self
starter is a more appropriate

1811
01:47:49,980 --> 01:47:50,310
term.

1812
01:47:50,340 --> 01:47:53,460
But the reason I think low self
starter. Yes. And I think it

1813
01:47:53,460 --> 01:47:56,550
doesn't necessarily describe the
the phenomenon correctly to use

1814
01:47:56,550 --> 01:48:00,540
the term lone wolf, what we saw
was a metastasize ation of the

1815
01:48:00,540 --> 01:48:04,140
phenomenon. And our worst
nightmares came true and ISIL

1816
01:48:04,140 --> 01:48:07,380
emerged. Because what we're
really dealing with here is a

1817
01:48:07,380 --> 01:48:10,260
fundamental inspiration for
Muslims to sympathize with the

1818
01:48:10,260 --> 01:48:13,470
idea of creating or resurrecting
the so called caliphate and

1819
01:48:13,470 --> 01:48:17,760
instituting theocracy in Muslim
majority countries. And calling

1820
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,910
it a caliphate is something we
have to make very unpopular. And

1821
01:48:20,910 --> 01:48:23,520
that's that's a challenge at the
moment as things stand and

1822
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:23,730
you've

1823
01:48:23,730 --> 01:48:27,750
always said it's not enough for
for Muslims to simply say, Well,

1824
01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:30,750
look, I don't believe in
beheading hostages. You see,

1825
01:48:30,750 --> 01:48:32,100
people have to go farther than
that

1826
01:48:32,130 --> 01:48:35,370
if we expect non Muslims to
speak out against anti Muslim

1827
01:48:35,370 --> 01:48:38,280
bigotry. And as as was evidenced
in this, I'll ride with you

1828
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,310
hashtag campaign on Twitter. How
many times do we see Muslim

1829
01:48:41,310 --> 01:48:44,910
starting such hashtags? To say
actually, we condemn Islamist

1830
01:48:44,910 --> 01:48:48,300
and Jihadist terrorism? Instead,
what we find is many of my co

1831
01:48:48,300 --> 01:48:50,400
religionists say I've got
nothing to do with this. Why

1832
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,740
should I condemn it? It's not in
my name. But if we have that

1833
01:48:52,740 --> 01:48:55,410
expectation of non Muslims to
condemn things such as racism,

1834
01:48:55,650 --> 01:48:58,410
to condemn things such as anti
Muslim hate, likewise, we have

1835
01:48:58,410 --> 01:49:00,900
to step up to our own
responsibilities.

1836
01:49:00,930 --> 01:49:03,870
This harsh triggered his former
attorney who says that this is a

1837
01:49:03,870 --> 01:49:07,560
one off random individual not
acting in concert with anyone.

1838
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:09,690
Do you think it's dangerous to
kind of just kind of say, Okay,

1839
01:49:09,690 --> 01:49:11,130
well, this is a one off thing.

1840
01:49:11,730 --> 01:49:14,340
Absolutely. It's very dangerous.
I mean, that we have the school

1841
01:49:14,340 --> 01:49:17,340
shootings in America as a
phenomenon. And again, they

1842
01:49:17,340 --> 01:49:19,920
aren't one off, but there is a
difference here. And the

1843
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,830
difference is that, in the case
of Islamist inspired self

1844
01:49:22,830 --> 01:49:23,400
starters,

1845
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:29,520
self study as a whole Islam is
inspired self starters. Why do

1846
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,980
you think he's pushing this meme
this self starter

1847
01:49:31,980 --> 01:49:35,250
meme? As opposed to Lone Wolf?
Yeah.

1848
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:38,490
Well, lone wolf hasn't really
worked. I guess it's just it's

1849
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:39,360
no one's afraid

1850
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:42,420
of dogs not gonna work if the
lone wolf didn't work. Just

1851
01:49:42,420 --> 01:49:45,900
sounds like if you read any one
ad for somebody employee,

1852
01:49:46,170 --> 01:49:50,490
looking for a self starter,
looking for a terrorist, looking

1853
01:49:50,490 --> 01:49:53,400
for some guy who doesn't have to
be told what to do every second.

1854
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:53,850
Yeah,

1855
01:49:53,910 --> 01:49:57,330
exactly. So the definition is
right, a self starter

1856
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:00,360
urbanism, an ideology underneath
it that inspires There's

1857
01:50:00,450 --> 01:50:03,600
multiple one offs and at what
stage do these multiple one off

1858
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:06,240
stop becoming one offs? And we
start recognizing that we're

1859
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:09,510
dealing with a phenomenon of the
atomization of self-starter

1860
01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:12,690
Islam as terrorists. Starter
ism.

1861
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:16,110
Yes. That goes along with being
a self starter ism. Yes. It's

1862
01:50:16,110 --> 01:50:18,480
Bin Laden ism and self starter
ism.

1863
01:50:18,899 --> 01:50:21,089
Wow, this is good to show tidal

1864
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:26,819
self-starter ism. I was
thinking, I was thinking, as I

1865
01:50:26,819 --> 01:50:31,799
heard this clip, I was watching
this interview. Truly, this is

1866
01:50:31,799 --> 01:50:36,599
the problem with the Industrial
Technology society. Because it's

1867
01:50:36,599 --> 01:50:40,349
just like this divorce crap.
Because of the speed of

1868
01:50:40,379 --> 01:50:41,789
information flow.

1869
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:46,380
You're really bugged by that
divorce thing. I think is cute.

1870
01:50:46,650 --> 01:50:47,400
It's not

1871
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:49,860
cute because they didn't they
made me look ugly. Right. Look,

1872
01:50:49,860 --> 01:50:50,400
really?

1873
01:50:50,970 --> 01:50:53,820
See, I haven't seen the picture.
I'm sure. It's horrible,

1874
01:50:54,030 --> 01:50:57,690
horrible job. horrible. It's
horrible. I'd like to see it in

1875
01:50:57,690 --> 01:50:59,790
the newsletter for people. And
the copy.

1876
01:50:59,790 --> 01:51:03,720
Actually, it pretty much says,
well, he's a podcaster in

1877
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:07,920
Austin, you know, no wonder. No
wonder she wants to know that

1878
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:08,700
nothing is old,

1879
01:51:08,730 --> 01:51:13,200
old media. Yeah, they're finally
getting a clue. Right?

1880
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:21,150
I'm just saying that what? This
this is just the beginning, life

1881
01:51:21,150 --> 01:51:23,190
is going to get much crazier.

1882
01:51:23,340 --> 01:51:27,510
I had much much Craig teaches
journalism at the Arizona State

1883
01:51:27,510 --> 01:51:30,900
University. And he's always been
fascinated by the podcast

1884
01:51:30,900 --> 01:51:34,560
because he sees it for what it
is is the most modern professor

1885
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:36,030
of journalism. Yeah, thank

1886
01:51:36,030 --> 01:51:36,990
you. Certainly.

1887
01:51:37,919 --> 01:51:40,619
And he's been read last time I
sent him something he says oh,

1888
01:51:41,009 --> 01:51:45,329
because I had been you know, the
just stunned because he knows

1889
01:51:45,329 --> 01:51:46,799
what we're doing is the right
thing to do.

1890
01:51:46,860 --> 01:51:49,950
No agenda player.com I need to
remind people this is a

1891
01:51:49,950 --> 01:51:52,920
fantastic resource. I think I've
put it back in the in the on the

1892
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:56,940
homepage of the show notes. You
can go and someone's annotating

1893
01:51:56,940 --> 01:52:00,750
the shows, not transcribed. But
annotating, you can contribute

1894
01:52:00,750 --> 01:52:04,140
to that you go to no agenda
player.com You pick the episode,

1895
01:52:04,260 --> 01:52:07,050
you say okay, here's the topic,
click and it gives you a link

1896
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:10,800
even if it's not one of the
annotated topics as the the show

1897
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:15,570
is playing. You can stop it and
there's a link to that exact

1898
01:52:15,570 --> 01:52:19,920
spot in the show. And you can
tweet it email it is a great

1899
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,410
resource exists for exactly this
reason.

1900
01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:28,410
So the Dutch paper you know,
they're a bunch of old hacks and

1901
01:52:28,410 --> 01:52:32,340
they know that their days are
numbered, which they are and

1902
01:52:32,340 --> 01:52:34,890
although in Europe is taking
longer than it took here, we

1903
01:52:34,890 --> 01:52:37,500
pretty much wiped out everything
except the New York Times

1904
01:52:37,500 --> 01:52:40,560
Washington Post, which is not
owned by Jeff Bezos so they have

1905
01:52:41,130 --> 01:52:44,760
you know, at least a sugar daddy
to keep them going. But that's

1906
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:46,980
what the you need. Now. You had
to have a sugar daddy, you're

1907
01:52:47,220 --> 01:52:51,180
not gonna stay in business. I'd
settle for a sugar daddy. Yeah,

1908
01:52:51,180 --> 01:52:55,140
well, I'm sure you would. A
couple others say no to this

1909
01:52:55,590 --> 01:52:59,520
couple other great little
articles that were of course

1910
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:05,010
snowed under by all of this
fantastic news from Australia

1911
01:53:05,010 --> 01:53:07,890
which really, really helped.
Because of course we have to you

1912
01:53:07,890 --> 01:53:12,510
know, we are now on high alert
because of this. Is his headline

1913
01:53:12,510 --> 01:53:15,630
Islamic State extremists are
training five year olds for

1914
01:53:15,630 --> 01:53:18,480
combat and Syria. I liked that
one thought that was a valiant

1915
01:53:18,480 --> 01:53:22,140
effort. But my favorite, my
favorite one I wish I had a

1916
01:53:22,140 --> 01:53:22,680
clip.

1917
01:53:23,070 --> 01:53:27,150
Five year olds. Yes. They're
trading talk to a five year old.

1918
01:53:27,870 --> 01:53:28,890
Anyway, go on.

1919
01:53:29,550 --> 01:53:32,100
Yeah, I talked to a five year
old knew what the five year old

1920
01:53:32,100 --> 01:53:39,000
said to me. Terrorists, right.
They're self starter. Yep. self

1921
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:44,700
starter. I wish I had an audio
clip of this. I don't. Islamic

1922
01:53:44,700 --> 01:53:48,390
State militants are launching
bombs containing live scorpions

1923
01:53:48,390 --> 01:53:56,550
as the latest terror weapon in
Iraq. That's fantastic. That is

1924
01:53:56,550 --> 01:54:03,210
one of the best things I've
heard ever. Very, very, very

1925
01:54:03,210 --> 01:54:06,420
happy with that. Yeah, very
happy.

1926
01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:10,260
Now that was a classic discord.
I remember the scorpion clip.

1927
01:54:10,410 --> 01:54:10,920
Funny.

1928
01:54:12,450 --> 01:54:13,170
There was

1929
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:20,430
I think I had something else.
Maybe I don't have it. Well,

1930
01:54:20,430 --> 01:54:24,870
then, of course, we had
Pakistan. And this made me Well,

1931
01:54:24,900 --> 01:54:28,200
I hate to say it I would I did
not like I really smiled. But

1932
01:54:28,350 --> 01:54:34,500
this is exactly what our expert
known as the Pakistani guy who

1933
01:54:34,500 --> 01:54:36,870
runs the liquor store on the
corner. It's exactly what he

1934
01:54:36,870 --> 01:54:39,750
said. Do you remember what he
said? No, the terrorists. He

1935
01:54:39,750 --> 01:54:42,300
said the terrorists are coming.
The Tet we know where they are.

1936
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:44,340
It's just a matter of time
before we have a terrorist

1937
01:54:44,340 --> 01:54:47,550
attack in Pakistan. He said
there's not two weeks ago when

1938
01:54:47,550 --> 01:54:50,100
we talked about it on the show.
Yeah, he knew what was coming.

1939
01:54:50,100 --> 01:54:54,210
They all knew was coming. Is
everyone knows what's going on

1940
01:54:54,210 --> 01:54:54,780
over there.

1941
01:54:56,010 --> 01:54:58,740
They talk politics in the coffee
shops. We don't do that. We

1942
01:54:58,740 --> 01:55:02,520
talked about the card machines
and the size of their enormous

1943
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:03,360
rear ends.

1944
01:55:04,110 --> 01:55:09,990
John McCain took immediate
advantage of this. This attack

1945
01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:11,130
in Pakistan, you know,

1946
01:55:11,130 --> 01:55:14,820
when you go after civilians,
everyone is horrified at the

1947
01:55:14,820 --> 01:55:17,340
viciousness this went to
children. It just gets even

1948
01:55:17,340 --> 01:55:18,120
worse doesn't it

1949
01:55:18,959 --> 01:55:23,189
gets worse. And also, it's going
to be a lot worse unless we

1950
01:55:23,189 --> 01:55:27,059
leave a force behind. Rather
than removing everybody from

1951
01:55:27,059 --> 01:55:30,479
Afghanistan. We'll see the Iraq
movie again. And you'll see the

1952
01:55:30,479 --> 01:55:34,199
Taliban inflicting more of these
kinds of heinous outrageous,

1953
01:55:35,430 --> 01:55:36,690
Gina's the penis

1954
01:55:37,260 --> 01:55:41,880
attacks and Murder, Mayhem that
they are capable of the United

1955
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:46,110
States should be talking about a
stabilizing force behind in

1956
01:55:46,110 --> 01:55:49,560
Afghanistan, to give them the
capabilities that they don't

1957
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:53,280
have right now and won't have
when we hold leave, it should be

1958
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:57,120
a conditions based withdrawal,
not a date driven withdrawal.

1959
01:55:57,330 --> 01:56:00,450
And that way we can work more
closely with the Pakistanis.

1960
01:56:00,660 --> 01:56:04,050
I've been encouraged by the new
head chief of the Pakistani

1961
01:56:04,050 --> 01:56:07,800
army. The Prime Minister seems
to be serious, they did carry

1962
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:13,200
out these exercises in
Waziristan against the Taliban.

1963
01:56:13,230 --> 01:56:16,740
So I think we could get greater
cooperation. But right now, they

1964
01:56:16,740 --> 01:56:20,490
have a sanctuary. And frankly,
there's attacks in the

1965
01:56:20,490 --> 01:56:24,780
wintertime, which is unusual. In
Kabul and Helmand and other

1966
01:56:24,780 --> 01:56:28,860
places. The Taliban has stepped
up those attacks. casualties

1967
01:56:28,950 --> 01:56:32,490
have been larger, showing that
we must leave a horse behind.

1968
01:56:37,350 --> 01:56:40,350
He's all about leaving the force
behind more force behind we need

1969
01:56:40,350 --> 01:56:42,810
to bring some dudes there. What
do you got done that can't draw

1970
01:56:42,810 --> 01:56:45,750
down now that he's going to be
running the committee?

1971
01:56:46,620 --> 01:56:49,470
Oh, yeah. Once he's on the head
as he as soon as that happened,

1972
01:56:49,470 --> 01:56:52,290
he's right. He's going to be
running every theory. These

1973
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,950
these C span clips are going to
be much more entertaining.

1974
01:56:57,300 --> 01:56:58,740
And this wasn't even C span.

1975
01:56:59,490 --> 01:57:02,430
No, I'm talking about the CCENT
span clips of the committee

1976
01:57:02,430 --> 01:57:03,360
meetings, whoa,

1977
01:57:03,390 --> 01:57:08,010
gains much more entertaining.
Bobby, great. There is good

1978
01:57:08,010 --> 01:57:11,040
news. In all of this. There is
opportunity. John, if this

1979
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:14,400
podcasting thing doesn't work
out for us, there is a plan B

1980
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:21,030
and it was sent to me by one of
our peerage members. And I have

1981
01:57:21,030 --> 01:57:27,360
a promotional clip from the
intelligence community.com

1982
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:28,020
website.

1983
01:57:28,230 --> 01:57:31,860
So if you're looking for a job
in national security, perhaps

1984
01:57:31,860 --> 01:57:35,070
you're a recent graduate, or
veteran, or a government

1985
01:57:35,070 --> 01:57:39,600
employee in between jobs, or a
stay at home spouse, it would be

1986
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:42,750
nice to find a permanent job and
national security or in the

1987
01:57:42,750 --> 01:57:45,450
government. But it seems like
everything requires you to have

1988
01:57:45,450 --> 01:57:49,200
a clearance and work out of an
office building. Nowadays, so

1989
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,200
much of what we do can be done
remotely, especially when it

1990
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:55,350
comes to analyzing and managing
information, translation

1991
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:59,040
services, proposal writing,
geopolitical consulting,

1992
01:57:59,460 --> 01:58:02,430
business development,
recruiting, and the list goes

1993
01:58:02,430 --> 01:58:07,080
on. Why not do it remotely as a
freelancer? The intelligence

1994
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:11,400
community.com is a new online
marketplace under construction

1995
01:58:11,670 --> 01:58:14,490
that will help you find these
types of opportunities. There's

1996
01:58:14,490 --> 01:58:15,270
opportunities

1997
01:58:15,270 --> 01:58:18,900
abound John, freelance part time
from home.

1998
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:22,290
Ah, we can do this.

1999
01:58:22,710 --> 01:58:28,650
Oh, yeah. Proposal Writing is
not it's a thrill. Still, if you

2000
01:58:28,650 --> 01:58:34,080
go to just intelligence.gov they
have a bunch of same. This other

2001
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:37,560
thing sounds like it's kind of a
copy of intelligence.gov which

2002
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:40,290
is a government thing, our
mission careers, a lot of stuff

2003
01:58:40,290 --> 01:58:44,040
on careers, best places to work
in the federal government.

2004
01:58:45,210 --> 01:58:50,010
Because it's six is a good one.
To 2014 best places to work in

2005
01:58:50,010 --> 01:58:53,670
the federal government. For the
sixth consecutive year, the

2006
01:58:53,670 --> 01:58:57,480
intelligence community IC was
honored as one of the top 10

2007
01:58:57,480 --> 01:59:00,270
best places to work in the
federal government. According to

2008
01:59:00,270 --> 01:59:03,990
an independent analysis of
federal workers job satisfaction

2009
01:59:03,990 --> 01:59:04,860
and commitment

2010
01:59:04,980 --> 01:59:11,490
Nice. George W. Bush has
canceled his trip to

2011
01:59:11,490 --> 01:59:16,230
Switzerland. What were fears he
might be arrested on torture

2012
01:59:16,230 --> 01:59:21,000
charges. He was going to say
this and say that. Yes. Well,

2013
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:23,670
that's that. That's the
headline. Let me see what who

2014
01:59:23,670 --> 01:59:26,730
wrote this home on that Daily
Mail. Sorry, that's not that

2015
01:59:26,730 --> 01:59:32,040
great. But, uh, he was supposed
to go to Switzerland to Geneva

2016
01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:38,040
for a charity gala. keynote
speaker at the Jewish charity

2017
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:43,170
gala in Geneva on February 12.
According to this report to

2018
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:45,300
pressure has been building on
the Swiss government to arrest

2019
01:59:45,300 --> 01:59:49,650
him and open a criminal
investigation if he entered the

2020
01:59:49,650 --> 01:59:55,230
country so that has been
cancelled. Vice vice never

2021
01:59:55,230 --> 02:00:02,400
ceases to amaze me. They have
Coming up, I have not seen it

2022
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:06,720
yet an exclusive interview
exclusive, where the

2023
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:12,360
psychologist not named in the
torture report confirming his

2024
02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:16,950
role in CIA interrogations in
the program. Vice guys they get

2025
02:00:16,950 --> 02:00:18,180
scoop after scoop

2026
02:00:19,529 --> 02:00:21,839
out do they do it? I don't know.
Stop,

2027
02:00:22,019 --> 02:00:25,199
go okay. That was a medical
procedure. I'm not a doctor and

2028
02:00:25,199 --> 02:00:27,389
neither are you. I'm a doctor,
not an escalator.

2029
02:00:30,180 --> 02:00:32,100
Move by donate to no agenda.

2030
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:35,310
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

2031
02:00:43,020 --> 02:00:49,950
is McCoy clips. Love We thank a
few people here for helping us

2032
02:00:49,950 --> 02:00:54,000
out on show 679 Starting with
Chris cromoly. Our grim old I'm

2033
02:00:54,000 --> 02:01:00,210
sorry, Chris. Grumble. I'm
guessing port you in Wuhan un.

2034
02:01:00,510 --> 02:01:06,300
New York. 12345 finally stopped
freeloading. He says it finally

2035
02:01:06,300 --> 02:01:10,440
donated and he's a de douching
and a Karma would give the karma

2036
02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:19,080
at the end. You been de Deus to
get a Galois in San Francisco so

2037
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:25,200
12345 He says my wife and I are
visiting Osaka, Japan expecting

2038
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:28,860
our first human resource very
soon. pain free karma will give

2039
02:01:28,860 --> 02:01:35,160
you karma at the end. He's in
Osaka. Villar Strauss, Cape Town

2040
02:01:35,310 --> 02:01:40,320
is nice 12345 He's into the
sequential numbers. That's

2041
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:44,790
pretty cool. Karma will be at
the end. Brandon Stewart Dallas,

2042
02:01:44,790 --> 02:01:51,000
Texas. $100 Pedro Villa fun
Villa Villa Fein Villa Fein I

2043
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:57,210
don't know. Bia ll a FA N E and
supple BA. Oklahoma. $100.

2044
02:01:58,860 --> 02:02:05,850
Timothy Loudermilk in Boca
Raton, Florida, 100. Sebastian

2045
02:02:05,850 --> 02:02:15,690
lambinon in Alicante, Spain. Oh,
nice. 75 Randolph del in

2046
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:21,390
Albuquerque, New Mexico, or di
del, John. And my last name is

2047
02:02:21,390 --> 02:02:26,280
Donnie del. And he says thanks,
do you for the QS Oh, last night

2048
02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:27,630
I reflected 33 C.

2049
02:02:27,750 --> 02:02:29,280
That's right. Three, three,
Charlie,

2050
02:02:29,340 --> 02:02:31,170
that's a five our HD.

2051
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:35,610
I was just, he's listened to in
show number one. He said he has

2052
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:39,450
he has been I think it's been an
associate producer. Yeah, so

2053
02:02:39,450 --> 02:02:41,880
it's terrible just hanging out.
You know, I got the dual

2054
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:43,290
reflectors going on and

2055
02:02:43,349 --> 02:02:44,459
get to do a reflector

2056
02:02:44,639 --> 02:02:46,079
selectors. 33

2057
02:02:46,410 --> 02:02:49,980
kilo, five, real high
definition.

2058
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:55,140
You know, it's funny, I
participated a Kickstarter for

2059
02:02:55,140 --> 02:02:59,610
my birthday, went to Amsterdam
to celebrate my 50th and for the

2060
02:02:59,610 --> 02:03:03,810
first time, the digital ham
conference tapper, which is

2061
02:03:03,810 --> 02:03:08,310
actually the Tucson, Arizona,
digital hams, whatever, was in

2062
02:03:08,310 --> 02:03:11,640
Austin, so I missed that. And
this, there's this guy who is

2063
02:03:11,670 --> 02:03:14,610
ham nation today, or whatever
it's called. And he does a

2064
02:03:14,610 --> 02:03:18,360
podcast, a video podcast, and
he, he did a Kickstarter to take

2065
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:22,440
all of the sessions. Like this
is great, what a great value. So

2066
02:03:22,470 --> 02:03:26,910
I gave him whatever the whatever
one of the levels was. And

2067
02:03:26,910 --> 02:03:31,440
somehow he's turned that into a
no agenda donation. So at the

2068
02:03:31,440 --> 02:03:36,600
start of every one of these
sessions that he's videotaped

2069
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:39,690
and produced, he does his whole
thing and plays the opening from

2070
02:03:39,690 --> 02:03:43,110
our show and talk to you talks
about us being hands and about

2071
02:03:43,110 --> 02:03:45,870
the show. It's not a show about
ham radio, but we mentioned it

2072
02:03:45,870 --> 02:03:48,900
we got the no agenda hams and
it's all the stuff is pretty

2073
02:03:48,900 --> 02:03:52,890
funny. We have a lot of hams. We
are We are We are ham meisters.

2074
02:03:53,460 --> 02:03:57,300
We're the ham meisters Richard
Chow in Fullerton, California.

2075
02:03:57,300 --> 02:04:03,810
6969 We got a Karma Dan for you,
sir Rick in Arlington,

2076
02:04:03,810 --> 02:04:10,470
Washington. 6933. Aaron Heath,
and St. Agnes South Australia.

2077
02:04:11,310 --> 02:04:18,750
63. Karma coming for you. Kevin
deals 55 WT goes on to diamond

2078
02:04:18,750 --> 02:04:22,710
Charlotte, North Carolina.
Stephen Schwartz in Schertz.

2079
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:26,970
Texas. Where is that? I don't
know who goes on the dime. And

2080
02:04:26,970 --> 02:04:31,560
he says Merry Christmas mofos
Joseph Monte and Pittsfield

2081
02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:38,010
Massachusetts double nickels on
the dime. Thomas gets in

2082
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:43,530
Dortmund Deutschland. I've been
to Dortmund they have a good

2083
02:04:43,530 --> 02:04:46,890
beer there who some of the time
Jason fortuin. Double nickels on

2084
02:04:46,890 --> 02:04:50,430
the dime Parts Unknown Simon
read double nickels on the dime.

2085
02:04:50,430 --> 02:04:55,890
This is interesting. In New York
City. Let's see what he's got.

2086
02:04:55,890 --> 02:04:59,280
He's got something. Pay Pal says
you cancel my subscription but

2087
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:03,330
it wasn't true. To the upgraded
to the $33.33 a month

2088
02:05:03,330 --> 02:05:06,330
subscription and throwing in a
double nickels on the dime to

2089
02:05:06,330 --> 02:05:09,210
help make up for the whatever
the losses were there and

2090
02:05:09,630 --> 02:05:12,150
because no through though no
this happened or if they find

2091
02:05:12,150 --> 02:05:14,280
out about us always like later,
it's really,

2092
02:05:14,789 --> 02:05:18,749
really one of the strangest
things that PayPal does that

2093
02:05:18,749 --> 02:05:21,869
it's just it makes no sense if
you have a subscription to

2094
02:05:21,869 --> 02:05:25,949
anything and your credit card
expires or it gets canceled or

2095
02:05:25,949 --> 02:05:30,509
anything like that. And perhaps
for other reasons we don't know,

2096
02:05:30,959 --> 02:05:35,159
then you will not be notified.
But if you go looking it will

2097
02:05:35,159 --> 02:05:39,329
say oh, the no agenda show
cancelled your subscription talk

2098
02:05:39,329 --> 02:05:45,899
to them. Yeah, and believe me,
we may be not the smartest

2099
02:05:45,899 --> 02:05:48,209
apples in the bunch, but we
ain't canceling those

2100
02:05:48,209 --> 02:05:49,139
subscriptions.

2101
02:05:49,590 --> 02:05:56,340
Now why would we? It makes no
sense. I don't like that guy's

2102
02:05:56,340 --> 02:05:57,270
name. Let's just

2103
02:06:00,780 --> 02:06:03,540
well, you are the guy who blocks
people everywhere. Do you know

2104
02:06:03,540 --> 02:06:04,980
how many emails I get?

2105
02:06:06,540 --> 02:06:09,120
I wish John would unblocked me
already.

2106
02:06:10,530 --> 02:06:14,010
From email I blocked blocked me
on email. Well, I guess I can

2107
02:06:14,010 --> 02:06:18,660
communicate with him. You can
always send a note to Adam No,

2108
02:06:18,690 --> 02:06:23,130
no, John as the same thing just
send it to john@curry.com

2109
02:06:23,250 --> 02:06:26,970
a skill still be blocked.
Anonymous in Milton, Ontario and

2110
02:06:26,970 --> 02:06:32,970
these are all $50 donors. He is
donating because you correctly

2111
02:06:32,970 --> 02:06:36,300
spelled a lot as to words in
your newsletter. there's any

2112
02:06:36,300 --> 02:06:38,550
reason to get somebody to
donate. That's pretty good, most

2113
02:06:38,550 --> 02:06:39,060
obscure.

2114
02:06:40,350 --> 02:06:41,190
And a lot

2115
02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:46,350
sir Mitch bid drawn in Long
Beach, California. And we have

2116
02:06:46,350 --> 02:06:48,960
them down for a birthday call
out the Andrew Harrison in

2117
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:54,210
Gravenhurst tech Ontario $50
Dave Evans right there in a

2118
02:06:54,210 --> 02:06:54,780
mustard my

2119
02:06:54,780 --> 02:06:56,760
buddy. My buddy Dave up on the
hill. Dave

2120
02:06:56,760 --> 02:06:57,600
has always called

2121
02:06:58,110 --> 02:07:01,800
Dave travels. He travels a lot
for his business in Europe all

2122
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:05,220
the time. Yeah. I'm sure it's
keeping him sane and his wife

2123
02:07:05,220 --> 02:07:06,030
and their lovely son

2124
02:07:06,300 --> 02:07:09,600
Michael gates in Colorado
Springs, Colorado. Rosalynn

2125
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:13,770
Furness in turn bridge wells
hungry what's Tunbridge Wells?

2126
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:18,840
Tunbridge right now turn bridge.
So it's a woodworking shop in

2127
02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:24,630
the UK, Amitabh Agera and Dale
Ville Virginia John camp in

2128
02:07:24,660 --> 02:07:28,230
antlers Oklahoma. Great name for
a town Chris Lewinsky and

2129
02:07:28,230 --> 02:07:29,730
Sherwood Park Alberta

2130
02:07:29,790 --> 02:07:33,120
and that Sir Chris by now it is
Sir Chris Adams I'm pretty sure

2131
02:07:33,150 --> 02:07:36,510
people put your peerage titles
on your on your donations help

2132
02:07:36,510 --> 02:07:37,200
us out. Yeah. And when

2133
02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:41,130
you do what through the banks
just put it at the top as a note

2134
02:07:41,130 --> 02:07:44,340
as notes that you can put in
that go to on each check. And

2135
02:07:44,340 --> 02:07:49,680
then it would use the reminds us
Stacy St. Armand in Kingston,

2136
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:54,960
Ontario. And finally, last but
not least, Zachary Stanko in

2137
02:07:56,970 --> 02:08:01,560
Omaha, Nebraska, home of Warren
Buffett, and he sent a note in

2138
02:08:01,650 --> 02:08:05,160
let's see if there's anything he
wants us to read. Thanks so much

2139
02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:09,000
for all you do, the valve
provided the Val value to the

2140
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,570
valve. The second valve provided
by the no agenda show and

2141
02:08:12,570 --> 02:08:16,560
helping us cope with us cope
with the globalists total

2142
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:19,920
victory is well worth a check
for $50 and close my first

2143
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:25,320
donation needs a de douching
because of this being

2144
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:29,100
bandied deuced

2145
02:08:31,530 --> 02:08:34,860
Yeah, you should give everyone a
karma and then this guy actually

2146
02:08:34,860 --> 02:08:37,260
request something Mickey would
like even though Mickey's not on

2147
02:08:37,260 --> 02:08:40,440
the show, what does that I don't
know what

2148
02:08:40,590 --> 02:08:45,060
like oh, just anything that
Mickey would like yeah that's

2149
02:08:45,090 --> 02:08:48,570
that's an that's a very good
question. I have no idea which

2150
02:08:48,690 --> 02:08:51,600
um, we don't think we ever
really discussed what would

2151
02:08:51,630 --> 02:08:53,700
jingle she would like she
probably

2152
02:08:53,700 --> 02:09:00,270
doesn't like jingles not
everybody likes to jingles.

2153
02:09:00,330 --> 02:09:02,820
That's true. I don't know.

2154
02:09:03,809 --> 02:09:07,859
I didn't mean to mention this to
Buffalo you know I played

2155
02:09:07,949 --> 02:09:10,589
something we much or something
that's fine. Anything from sharp

2156
02:09:10,589 --> 02:09:11,939
and I'm sure she gets a kick out
of

2157
02:09:12,509 --> 02:09:16,799
no I'd rather play here's I'll
play someone else. And then I'll

2158
02:09:16,799 --> 02:09:19,409
go into the car I'll do a job
karma because people need that

2159
02:09:19,409 --> 02:09:28,619
all the time. ISIS will follow
them the gate

2160
02:09:30,450 --> 02:09:31,170
ISIS

2161
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:40,260
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

2162
02:09:44,340 --> 02:09:47,850
We need to catalog the songs
because everyone says oh yes,

2163
02:09:47,850 --> 02:09:50,220
some Dvorak would be I would
pick that one. That's an

2164
02:09:50,430 --> 02:09:51,360
outstanding

2165
02:09:51,480 --> 02:09:52,740
right now. Great. Yeah.

2166
02:09:53,190 --> 02:09:55,710
We do have a lot of songs. We
have a lot of songs that play

2167
02:09:55,710 --> 02:09:57,960
that Ukraine one again, I get a
biggest kick out.

2168
02:09:58,020 --> 02:10:00,750
I'll play you the long version.
He sent me a Short version and I

2169
02:10:00,750 --> 02:10:02,490
have another one actually. Oh
boy

2170
02:10:11,099 --> 02:10:17,009
Ukraine love that shit right
there. Ukraine

2171
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:23,040
Eric Clapton on the line. And
this was oh this is a new one as

2172
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:26,790
well. You want to do a song.
This is about? It's from Hugh

2173
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:30,150
Allison. About Eric Holder

2174
02:10:33,060 --> 02:10:41,670
you got to know where recall as
a secret he wants to walk away

2175
02:10:41,790 --> 02:10:46,110
selling him the guns. He always
likes to play the race card.

2176
02:10:46,710 --> 02:10:52,200
Whenever he is able there'll be
Taberna comically whipped

2177
02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:59,730
around. Everyone considered him
the coward. The cabinet

2178
02:11:05,940 --> 02:11:08,340
over about a country radio
bringing it to you right

2179
02:11:08,340 --> 02:11:19,500
now.org/first

2180
02:11:19,500 --> 02:11:19,650
Off

2181
02:11:19,650 --> 02:11:22,170
we have an anniversary Chris
Cook says Happy anniversary to

2182
02:11:22,170 --> 02:11:27,450
his lovely wife Lucy celebrating
the 19th tomorrow, belated

2183
02:11:27,450 --> 02:11:30,270
birthday to James Ogilvy as
celebrated on the 14th and

2184
02:11:30,270 --> 02:11:34,380
birthdays today sir head MoPhO
in charge 32 He turns on

2185
02:11:34,380 --> 02:11:37,740
December 19. Chris Cook says
Happy Birthday to his son

2186
02:11:37,740 --> 02:11:41,100
Nicholas celebrating on the 20th
and Sir Mitch been drawn says

2187
02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:44,250
Happy Birthday to his daughter
Samantha and wishes her happy

2188
02:11:44,250 --> 02:11:47,820
14th birthday as do all of us
here the best podcast in the

2189
02:11:47,820 --> 02:11:54,270
universe. No changes in titles.
No nice things. No. Nothing else

2190
02:11:54,270 --> 02:11:55,080
going on today.

2191
02:11:56,220 --> 02:11:57,210
Oh, that's too bad.

2192
02:11:57,480 --> 02:12:00,960
Well, it happened. Let me see.
We had our break. Just trying to

2193
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:03,990
figure out the time here. Okay,
I think we're okay.

2194
02:12:05,820 --> 02:12:08,100
Oh, let's see. Yeah, I got

2195
02:12:08,100 --> 02:12:09,360
a good I got a good segue,

2196
02:12:09,390 --> 02:12:10,980
right segue segue baby.

2197
02:12:11,670 --> 02:12:16,230
Mega rat Zilla. Okay.

2198
02:12:17,550 --> 02:12:22,140
The prowl in the night, thrive
on trash and human waste. And

2199
02:12:22,140 --> 02:12:25,830
once they move into an area,
they're almost impossible to

2200
02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:32,070
eliminate. Now, an exceptionally
huge rat has been spotted on the

2201
02:12:32,070 --> 02:12:37,080
outskirts of New York City.
wasn't just one stray supersized

2202
02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:41,100
rodents, are a sign that a big
wave of mega rats is ready to

2203
02:12:41,100 --> 02:12:43,140
take a bite out of the Big
Apple.

2204
02:12:43,620 --> 02:12:46,110
It's something to think about a
pound and a half road and

2205
02:12:46,110 --> 02:12:49,140
running around your home. But
think about a six or seven pound

2206
02:12:49,140 --> 02:12:52,050
road and running around. That
probably would send shivers up

2207
02:12:52,050 --> 02:12:52,980
anybody's spine.

2208
02:12:55,260 --> 02:12:59,490
A great segue John is happening.
Like the killer bees,

2209
02:13:00,090 --> 02:13:05,400
six pound rodents to get a note
rat, six pound rats, let's get

2210
02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:06,000
that straight.

2211
02:13:06,090 --> 02:13:11,880
Got a note from John Calvin
Jones, Ph. D. J. D. This is a

2212
02:13:11,970 --> 02:13:15,930
professor of law. Is that what
is that? Am I correct there?

2213
02:13:16,110 --> 02:13:21,480
Doctor of Law Doctor of Law. Is
that a PhD? That's PhD is a

2214
02:13:21,480 --> 02:13:25,860
professor, someone else? PhD JD
it says yeah, that means he got

2215
02:13:25,860 --> 02:13:28,830
a PhD in something and went off
to get his JD he's got two

2216
02:13:28,830 --> 02:13:29,970
degrees, two big ones.

2217
02:13:30,450 --> 02:13:33,630
Big ones, big ones. Well, that
is not so good news for you.

2218
02:13:34,470 --> 02:13:38,250
Why? Well, he says you are
correct. John did not listen to

2219
02:13:38,250 --> 02:13:42,360
the full implications of the
idea of an anonymous vote. Yeah,

2220
02:13:42,420 --> 02:13:45,360
I'll skip all the I'll skip
everything. And let's go to the

2221
02:13:45,360 --> 02:13:49,380
end. So please tell John and the
end no agenda producers and

2222
02:13:49,380 --> 02:13:53,010
listeners that I a PhD in
Political Science, University of

2223
02:13:53,010 --> 02:13:57,030
Iowa 2003. Recognize that you a
true and professional

2224
02:13:57,030 --> 02:14:01,080
legislative analyst are correct,
sir. That is at least at the

2225
02:14:01,080 --> 02:14:04,440
subcommittee and committee
level. Anonymous votes would

2226
02:14:04,440 --> 02:14:07,170
reduce the influence of
corporate control of federal

2227
02:14:07,170 --> 02:14:10,950
legislation and or reduce the
divergence between congressional

2228
02:14:10,950 --> 02:14:13,590
voting and the public public
preferences.

2229
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:16,950
I think it would make it worse.

2230
02:14:18,030 --> 02:14:20,280
Do you have a PhD in Political
Science?

2231
02:14:20,849 --> 02:14:23,159
I don't I don't I do not.

2232
02:14:23,190 --> 02:14:26,040
Do you have a PhD in English?

2233
02:14:26,940 --> 02:14:30,060
I have a PhD who has a PhD in
England he actually requested

2234
02:14:30,060 --> 02:14:37,830
you do not okay ask. I just
thought that was nice. So you

2235
02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:41,160
can disagree with the PhD? I
mean, who did University of IERS

2236
02:14:41,250 --> 02:14:41,940
have to

2237
02:14:41,970 --> 02:14:43,140
so this by law?

2238
02:14:43,650 --> 02:14:44,190
Yeah.

2239
02:14:46,890 --> 02:14:50,190
Let's see. Oh, that the native
advertising thing you caught

2240
02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:54,030
Toys R Us? Yeah, that's
spreading everywhere Walmart has

2241
02:14:54,030 --> 02:14:56,940
been using. Everyone's trying to
everyone's trying to jump. Oh,

2242
02:14:56,940 --> 02:14:57,720
this is great.

2243
02:14:59,130 --> 02:15:03,960
Here it is Miss Every man pays
$50,000 in Walmart layaway bill,

2244
02:15:04,200 --> 02:15:07,920
and then listen and listen to
the story. Nearly 100 patrons of

2245
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:11,490
Pennsylvania wall of a
Pennsylvania Walmart had an

2246
02:15:11,490 --> 02:15:14,100
early Christmas gift given to
them by a mystery man dropped

2247
02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:17,340
off a $50,000 check to pay off
the stores layaway bills. And

2248
02:15:17,340 --> 02:15:21,900
notice they don't say of shake
shinny Pennsylvania on the

2249
02:15:21,900 --> 02:15:26,610
corner of first and main. It's
just a Pennsylvania Walmart.

2250
02:15:26,940 --> 02:15:28,800
Please. How insulting?

2251
02:15:29,040 --> 02:15:32,580
Oh that way. Yeah, that way
nobody can check exists story.

2252
02:15:33,150 --> 02:15:33,720
Oh, guess

2253
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:41,160
Exactly. And it's all over the
place. Crazy Crazy. Oh, the Kony

2254
02:15:41,460 --> 02:15:42,660
This is strange.

2255
02:15:42,839 --> 02:15:48,509
Kony 2012 Yeah. Kony 2012. Yeah,
they should have captured by now

2256
02:15:48,509 --> 02:15:51,119
because we can do all these were
very powerful country. If we

2257
02:15:51,119 --> 02:15:53,669
wanted to get him we could get
him because we have cyber spy

2258
02:15:53,669 --> 02:15:56,639
satellites everywhere. And the
NSA is plugged into everything.

2259
02:15:56,759 --> 02:15:59,129
So we can track this guy down
and grab him. As soon as that

2260
02:15:59,129 --> 02:16:01,439
video came out. You mean that
guy? Yeah. And we have

2261
02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:06,690
to Osprey raise the tilt rotor
aircraft, 300 advisors and

2262
02:16:06,690 --> 02:16:11,400
consultants at helping attract
down the Lords revolution, Army

2263
02:16:11,400 --> 02:16:20,250
and hiding. Meanwhile, Invisible
Children. This is the nonprofit

2264
02:16:21,210 --> 02:16:25,080
that that produced the video,
you'll recall, the the founder

2265
02:16:25,080 --> 02:16:29,850
of this was a video producer
guy. And he more or less raised

2266
02:16:29,850 --> 02:16:34,710
all this money to create videos
and make them go viral. They're

2267
02:16:34,710 --> 02:16:39,270
shutting down. They're closing
down the the operation

2268
02:16:39,570 --> 02:16:44,700
didn't work. Well. And we're
always skeptical about the viral

2269
02:16:44,700 --> 02:16:45,900
aspect of it too.

2270
02:16:45,930 --> 02:16:48,690
We're announcing today that the
Invisible Children you've known

2271
02:16:48,690 --> 02:16:52,140
is changing. We're downsizing
the bulk of our US programs and

2272
02:16:52,140 --> 02:16:55,770
operations at the end of the
year to prioritize our political

2273
02:16:55,770 --> 02:17:01,320
advocacy and Central Africa
programs through 2015. Then they

2274
02:17:01,320 --> 02:17:03,690
go through some kind of this is
the guy who was running around

2275
02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:11,130
naked. Jumping on cars. When she
says it wasn't me. It wasn't me.

2276
02:17:11,130 --> 02:17:16,830
I was I was I was an outer body
experience. By mid 2012, they

2277
02:17:16,830 --> 02:17:22,140
had $26.5 million in revenue $17
million net assets incredible.

2278
02:17:22,830 --> 02:17:27,750
By merely macro. By mid 2013. Of
course, this is when the

2279
02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:30,690
meltdown happened the
organization 4.9 million in

2280
02:17:30,690 --> 02:17:35,880
revenue less than 6.6 million in
assets and all that money go it

2281
02:17:35,880 --> 02:17:40,260
making videos and apparently a
lot of crystal meth or whatever

2282
02:17:40,260 --> 02:17:44,970
else the guy was on when he
freaked out. That's a lot of

2283
02:17:44,970 --> 02:17:45,450
money.

2284
02:17:46,530 --> 02:17:49,170
Yeah, a lot of money to blow
through when you're just a phony

2285
02:17:49,170 --> 02:17:50,670
operation like that. Yeah.

2286
02:17:52,410 --> 02:17:57,420
It's what it is. I have a clip
here

2287
02:17:57,420 --> 02:18:01,290
we can place another segue.
Below you won't play the another

2288
02:18:01,290 --> 02:18:03,810
Parliament clip to its end where
they're booing.

2289
02:18:04,440 --> 02:18:05,580
Why not?

2290
02:18:07,620 --> 02:18:10,980
about breaking bad TV tour. I
thought this was kind of

2291
02:18:10,980 --> 02:18:13,050
interesting. I had no idea
people were this stupid.

2292
02:18:13,649 --> 02:18:18,029
Normally successful TV drama
Breaking Bad puts albuquerque

2293
02:18:18,059 --> 02:18:21,449
new mexico firmly on the map.
Well, since then, the city has

2294
02:18:21,449 --> 02:18:24,539
become something of a pilgrimage
site for the show's fans.

2295
02:18:24,839 --> 02:18:28,199
Breaking Bad success had a
positive impact on the local

2296
02:18:28,199 --> 02:18:32,429
economy. But after five seasons
and 62 episodes, it's now off

2297
02:18:32,429 --> 02:18:35,489
air or local government is
trying to keep people

2298
02:18:35,489 --> 02:18:36,179
interested.

2299
02:18:38,790 --> 02:18:42,060
The series has ended but the
famous RV from Breaking Bad is

2300
02:18:42,060 --> 02:18:46,050
still alive and kicking. At
least a replica of it as this

2301
02:18:46,050 --> 02:18:49,800
one isn't the meth lab. It's a
tourist bus. over to my left is

2302
02:18:49,800 --> 02:18:50,430
the Crossroads

2303
02:18:50,430 --> 02:18:53,220
hotel used in almost every
season.

2304
02:18:53,400 --> 02:18:57,480
These fans paid $75 for the
breaking toward

2305
02:18:59,430 --> 02:19:00,570
Wow, there's hope for us.

2306
02:19:12,180 --> 02:19:13,710
That's how it ends. There's no
booing.

2307
02:19:14,039 --> 02:19:16,049
Yeah, it was good to hear the
booing Not really. There were

2308
02:19:16,049 --> 02:19:21,659
three rounds of going boo boo
and Boo. That's what they were

2309
02:19:21,659 --> 02:19:22,799
doing. They were booing

2310
02:19:24,570 --> 02:19:27,180
I received a doctrine root
operation that

2311
02:19:27,180 --> 02:19:32,310
thing. What thing? That
parliament? Fine. Can't they

2312
02:19:32,310 --> 02:19:34,380
just be quiet? Let people speak?
Oh,

2313
02:19:34,440 --> 02:19:38,850
I think I like it. I think it's
fun. It's entertaining to watch.

2314
02:19:39,630 --> 02:19:43,800
It's it's a scripted show. It's

2315
02:19:43,800 --> 02:19:44,940
not even interesting.

2316
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:49,200
I received the document from the
Lincoln Nebraska school system.

2317
02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:53,280
And of course, schools have
changed dramatically,

2318
02:19:53,280 --> 02:19:57,090
particularly with what I would
call cultural Marxism. But

2319
02:19:57,090 --> 02:20:01,140
really political correctness and
and how Teachers should be

2320
02:20:01,500 --> 02:20:05,670
educating our children. And
there's this was sent to me this

2321
02:20:05,670 --> 02:20:11,850
is about the, the gender
spectrum, the continuum of sex

2322
02:20:11,850 --> 02:20:18,120
and gender. And this brings
together knowledge of biology

2323
02:20:18,120 --> 02:20:21,210
which of course is anatomy
chromosomes hormones, where you

2324
02:20:21,210 --> 02:20:24,180
have the little graph here, we
have male on the left female on

2325
02:20:24,180 --> 02:20:26,400
the right and intersex in the
middle. This is the school

2326
02:20:26,400 --> 02:20:30,150
document gender identity,
psychological sense of self to

2327
02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:35,100
spirit, third gender, age,
gender, with a no gender, a

2328
02:20:35,100 --> 02:20:39,030
gender expression, sexual
orientation. And then there's 12

2329
02:20:39,060 --> 02:20:43,710
Easy Steps on the way to gender
inclusiveness. This these are

2330
02:20:43,740 --> 02:20:46,620
recommend, I don't know if there
are rules or recommendations for

2331
02:20:46,620 --> 02:20:51,750
the Lincoln Nebraska school
system, but I thought maybe we

2332
02:20:51,750 --> 02:20:53,340
should discuss a few of them. I
think

2333
02:20:53,340 --> 02:20:55,530
this is a great idea. Number
one.

2334
02:20:57,180 --> 02:21:02,340
Avoid asking kids to line up as
boys or girls or separating them

2335
02:21:02,340 --> 02:21:07,530
by gender. Instead, use things
like odd and even birth dates,

2336
02:21:07,560 --> 02:21:11,700
or which would you choose?
skateboards or bikes milk or

2337
02:21:11,700 --> 02:21:15,570
juice dogs or cats summer or
winter? Talking or listening?

2338
02:21:16,770 --> 02:21:20,250
invites students to come up with
choices themselves. Consider

2339
02:21:20,250 --> 02:21:23,790
using tools like the appointment
schedule to form pairs or

2340
02:21:23,790 --> 02:21:27,510
groups. Always ask yourself,
will this configuration create a

2341
02:21:27,510 --> 02:21:28,770
gendered space?

2342
02:21:31,020 --> 02:21:33,150
What? Yeah,

2343
02:21:33,930 --> 02:21:37,200
they always have the teachers
must always ask themselves will

2344
02:21:37,200 --> 02:21:41,010
this configuration create a
gendered space? What does that

2345
02:21:41,010 --> 02:21:44,880
mean? They don't know gender
space gendered gendered spaces?

2346
02:21:44,880 --> 02:21:49,920
I said gender. Now it's gendered
with Edie at the end. gendered

2347
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:51,360
and yes, gendered space,

2348
02:21:51,600 --> 02:21:56,250
gendered space? Will this create
a gendered space? Meaning will

2349
02:21:56,250 --> 02:21:57,660
this create what does that mean?

2350
02:21:57,660 --> 02:21:59,940
I don't know how I'm looking at
this. No definitions. I do see

2351
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:05,070
at the bottom of this. They have
a gingerbread man. And it's

2352
02:22:05,070 --> 02:22:07,260
called the gender bread person.

2353
02:22:08,010 --> 02:22:10,830
Fuck me. Gender red man.

2354
02:22:10,860 --> 02:22:14,370
So the gender bread person
gender bread, not gingerbread.

2355
02:22:14,370 --> 02:22:19,290
The Gen Ed's a gingerbread
cookie. But they call it the

2356
02:22:19,290 --> 02:22:21,210
gender bread person. You have to
see it nevermind.

2357
02:22:21,690 --> 02:22:25,020
Bread move on. Er ed or Bre ad?

2358
02:22:26,220 --> 02:22:27,480
br e ad?

2359
02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:29,610
So gender, gender

2360
02:22:29,640 --> 02:22:33,270
or gender? Right and a gender
bread makes those What is this?

2361
02:22:33,300 --> 02:22:34,590
What are they trying to do?

2362
02:22:34,619 --> 02:22:36,929
Well, let's let's go to number
two on the list while we're at

2363
02:22:36,929 --> 02:22:42,719
it. Don't use phrases such as
boys and girls, you guys ladies

2364
02:22:42,719 --> 02:22:46,349
and gentlemen. And similarly
gendered expression to get kids

2365
02:22:46,349 --> 02:22:51,419
attention instead say things
like calling all readers or Hey,

2366
02:22:51,419 --> 02:22:55,499
campers, or could all of the
athletes come here.

2367
02:22:56,099 --> 02:22:59,939
Creating a classroom says ladies
and gentlemen, I like hey,

2368
02:22:59,939 --> 02:23:02,609
campers, a campers

2369
02:23:02,640 --> 02:23:06,960
create classroom names then ask
all of the purple penguins to

2370
02:23:06,960 --> 02:23:07,830
meet it the rug

2371
02:23:10,050 --> 02:23:14,070
This is a joke. No, no, nothing
from the onion. Hello. It's

2372
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:19,950
not the I'm sorry, ma'am. This
is real. No, yes. No. Yes. No.

2373
02:23:20,190 --> 02:23:25,680
Okay, it can't be it's real.
Yes, this is very real. I like

2374
02:23:25,710 --> 02:23:28,260
why don't just Hey slaves that
would be better if that would

2375
02:23:28,260 --> 02:23:35,760
work. Slave number three.
provide an opportunity for every

2376
02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:41,820
student to identify a preferred
name or pronoun at the beginning

2377
02:23:41,820 --> 02:23:46,020
of the year or at a back to
school night. invite students

2378
02:23:46,020 --> 02:23:49,710
and parents to let you know if
they have a preferred name and

2379
02:23:49,710 --> 02:23:52,650
or pronoun by which they wish to
be referred.

2380
02:23:54,870 --> 02:23:57,120
Hey you what

2381
02:23:58,710 --> 02:24:00,840
what would prefer the pro name
Sue? I

2382
02:24:00,840 --> 02:24:03,810
mean I'm not sure what I'm
trying to get people to do I

2383
02:24:03,810 --> 02:24:04,110
don't know.

2384
02:24:04,949 --> 02:24:09,689
Let us go to number four on the
list. have visual images

2385
02:24:09,689 --> 02:24:14,279
reinforcing gender inclusion,
pictures of people who don't fit

2386
02:24:14,309 --> 02:24:20,879
gender norms signs that strike
out sayings like all boys or all

2387
02:24:20,879 --> 02:24:23,699
girls or all genders welcome

2388
02:24:25,170 --> 02:24:26,850
well genders welcome.

2389
02:24:28,470 --> 02:24:32,040
When you find it necessary, this
is number five, will you find it

2390
02:24:32,040 --> 02:24:37,380
necessary to reference gender
say, boy girl both or neither?

2391
02:24:39,090 --> 02:24:43,380
Neither or neither? When asked
girl both or

2392
02:24:43,380 --> 02:24:45,960
neither. So you can say to what
do you want to be called are

2393
02:24:45,960 --> 02:24:49,980
both Yeah. But then what do you
call somebody? Hey, both get

2394
02:24:49,980 --> 02:24:53,910
over here. I mean, what do you
call it would you know? Okay,

2395
02:24:53,940 --> 02:25:00,450
when asked why. Use this as a
teachable moment and for Sighs

2396
02:25:00,450 --> 02:25:05,460
to students that your classroom
recognizes and celebrates the

2397
02:25:05,490 --> 02:25:10,230
celebrates the gender diversity
of all students. You celebrate.

2398
02:25:10,260 --> 02:25:13,770
That's right. Six. You like
this? You won't do some oranges.

2399
02:25:13,980 --> 02:25:14,640
It's only 12

2400
02:25:14,700 --> 02:25:16,800
us in a mall. It's just
disgusting as hell.

2401
02:25:16,980 --> 02:25:18,330
Point out and inquire

2402
02:25:18,330 --> 02:25:20,250
wonder the country's going
downhill.

2403
02:25:20,820 --> 02:25:25,260
Oh, yeah. Point out and inquire
when you hear others referencing

2404
02:25:25,260 --> 02:25:29,130
gender in a binary manner? Oh,

2405
02:25:29,220 --> 02:25:32,490
this is like for fifth graders
or is this for college students?

2406
02:25:32,490 --> 02:25:36,840
What is who is this for? So
fifth graders, your fifth

2407
02:25:36,840 --> 02:25:40,320
graders? Oh, now you can't use
the word girl. You can't use she

2408
02:25:40,350 --> 02:25:44,550
no good. Don't use it. Stop it.
No, I think

2409
02:25:44,550 --> 02:25:48,690
it could be mine could even be
for third graders. I think maybe

2410
02:25:48,690 --> 02:25:48,780
it

2411
02:25:48,780 --> 02:25:52,680
is. Can you imagine these kids
by the time they're in high

2412
02:25:52,680 --> 02:25:55,800
school if they actually stick to
this kind of philosophy

2413
02:25:56,430 --> 02:25:57,630
insufferable

2414
02:25:57,690 --> 02:26:02,010
when so when someone uses
references gender in a binary

2415
02:26:02,010 --> 02:26:06,870
manner, ask things like, Hmm,
that is interesting. Can you say

2416
02:26:06,870 --> 02:26:11,610
more about that? Or what makes
you say that I think of it a

2417
02:26:11,610 --> 02:26:14,670
little differently. Provide
counter narratives that

2418
02:26:14,670 --> 02:26:18,810
challenge students to think more
expansively about their notions

2419
02:26:18,840 --> 02:26:24,360
of gender. This is fantastic
seven. Look for examples in the

2420
02:26:24,360 --> 02:26:28,560
media that reinforced gender
stereotypes or binary models of

2421
02:26:28,560 --> 02:26:31,740
gender. They won't be hard
they're everywhere. When with

2422
02:26:31,740 --> 02:26:37,530
others call it out and
interrogate it. How about hey,

2423
02:26:37,530 --> 02:26:38,910
that Miss America Pageant?

2424
02:26:39,089 --> 02:26:39,929
What the fuck?

2425
02:26:41,610 --> 02:26:46,200
Eight. be intolerant of openly
hostile attitudes or references

2426
02:26:46,200 --> 02:26:51,600
towards others every time you
hear or observe them, but also

2427
02:26:51,600 --> 02:26:53,340
use these as teachable moments.

2428
02:26:53,640 --> 02:26:56,430
Take the simple moments, take
the

2429
02:26:56,610 --> 02:26:59,640
opportunity to push the
individual on their statements

2430
02:26:59,640 --> 02:27:03,750
about gender. being punitive may
stop the behavior, at least in

2431
02:27:03,750 --> 02:27:06,930
your presence, being
instructive, may stop it

2432
02:27:06,930 --> 02:27:14,250
entirely. Three more. Nine teach
children specific language that

2433
02:27:14,250 --> 02:27:18,300
empowers them to be proud of who
they are, or to defend others

2434
02:27:18,300 --> 02:27:23,730
who are being mistreated. Such
as, please respect my privacy.

2435
02:27:24,330 --> 02:27:30,480
Or you may think that but I
don't. Or you may not like it,

2436
02:27:30,510 --> 02:27:35,490
but I do. Or, hey, they're
called Private Parts for a

2437
02:27:35,490 --> 02:27:42,360
reason. Oh, man, what they're
called Private Parts for a

2438
02:27:42,360 --> 02:27:45,780
reason. In other words, it's
private what I am or how I

2439
02:27:45,780 --> 02:27:50,400
identify. In the gym on the
gentleman I

2440
02:27:50,400 --> 02:27:54,030
was a kid they had the big you
go to pee and then you'd have a

2441
02:27:54,060 --> 02:27:57,600
shower. Yeah. And it'd be just a
big open shower but you're naked

2442
02:27:57,600 --> 02:27:58,560
kids roaming around.

2443
02:27:59,910 --> 02:28:04,110
Just can't do that anymore. I
don't know, doesn't say anything

2444
02:28:04,110 --> 02:28:08,220
about that. Help students record
plied. Help students recognize

2445
02:28:08,250 --> 02:28:10,710
all or nothing language by
helping them understand the

2446
02:28:10,710 --> 02:28:14,370
difference between patterns and
rules. Teach them phrases like

2447
02:28:14,640 --> 02:28:17,490
that may be true for some
people, but not all people or

2448
02:28:17,730 --> 02:28:21,600
frequently but not always, or
more common and less common.

2449
02:28:22,230 --> 02:28:27,540
Avoid using normal to define any
behaviors. It can be normal.

2450
02:28:28,650 --> 02:28:31,290
Know that it can be something
that may be true for some

2451
02:28:31,290 --> 02:28:32,880
people, but not all people
frequently

2452
02:28:32,880 --> 02:28:36,570
but not always. share personal
anecdotes from your own life

2453
02:28:36,570 --> 02:28:38,790
that reflect gender
inclusiveness even better share

2454
02:28:38,790 --> 02:28:41,550
examples when you are not gender
inclusive and your thinking

2455
02:28:41,550 --> 02:28:44,280
words or behaviors, what you
learned as a result and what you

2456
02:28:44,280 --> 02:28:48,570
will do differently next time.
I'm sorry, I didn't I was gender

2457
02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:50,940
exclusive. Finally, well,

2458
02:28:51,630 --> 02:28:55,020
that may be true for some
people, but not all people. It's

2459
02:28:55,020 --> 02:28:55,200
more

2460
02:28:55,200 --> 02:28:57,990
common or less and less common.
And finally, do the work

2461
02:28:57,990 --> 02:29:00,390
yourself. What are your own
experiences with gender? What

2462
02:29:00,390 --> 02:29:02,850
might be some of your own
biases? What assumptions do you

2463
02:29:02,850 --> 02:29:05,730
make about gender of others
share reflections about your own

2464
02:29:05,730 --> 02:29:11,760
evolving understandings of
gender. Hey, campers, let's talk

2465
02:29:11,760 --> 02:29:16,080
about my own understanding of
gender today. Wow.

2466
02:29:17,160 --> 02:29:20,700
All right. Well, that was a good
little list. And that's in

2467
02:29:20,700 --> 02:29:28,800
Nebraska. Can't imagine what's
going on in California. Mm hmm.

2468
02:29:29,100 --> 02:29:36,870
The sofa that's that's about it
is written by ice. Written by

2469
02:29:36,870 --> 02:29:39,480
Ms. Bill Williams.

2470
02:29:39,780 --> 02:29:43,980
I hope it wasn't duped. I think
I think that's real refers

2471
02:29:43,980 --> 02:29:47,190
to doesn't use pronouns. Or
you're a chooses his own

2472
02:29:47,190 --> 02:29:51,810
pronouns and nouns chooses or he
she got a love chooses it. You

2473
02:29:51,810 --> 02:29:56,220
gotta love it. That's pretty
insulting. Yeah. But that's what

2474
02:29:56,220 --> 02:29:56,700
it said.

2475
02:29:58,740 --> 02:30:01,650
What else you got? Boy? How are
we doing on time? Now? You can't

2476
02:30:01,650 --> 02:30:04,500
be I have one more clip. Let me
see what we have

2477
02:30:05,549 --> 02:30:08,009
gone through all my clips which
is rare. Yeah,

2478
02:30:08,040 --> 02:30:09,210
I think you have

2479
02:30:09,689 --> 02:30:10,919
I didn't have a lot of clips
then

2480
02:30:10,949 --> 02:30:16,859
I have let's see what can still
be good. Well not not

2481
02:30:16,859 --> 02:30:26,999
necessarily clip i i did parse
through the United Nations IPCC

2482
02:30:27,449 --> 02:30:33,899
adura The Lima Peru agreement.
We didn't get to this on Sunday.

2483
02:30:34,709 --> 02:30:37,529
Everybody was in Lima, you know
that this was another one of the

2484
02:30:37,529 --> 02:30:37,859
big

2485
02:30:37,890 --> 02:30:40,770
guests, including Amy Goodman,
who was reporting from Lima.

2486
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:45,300
And everyone was there and, and
they were supposed to end on

2487
02:30:45,330 --> 02:30:49,500
Friday, and they didn't have an
agreement. It was freaking out.

2488
02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:53,580
And so they they stayed all
night Saturday and came up with

2489
02:30:53,580 --> 02:30:59,250
a with a thing on Sunday, and I
put the paper the the agreement

2490
02:30:59,640 --> 02:31:03,180
into the show notes. This is the
Conference of the Parties 20 the

2491
02:31:03,180 --> 02:31:07,200
session Lima one through 12
December 2014, a report of the

2492
02:31:07,200 --> 02:31:12,180
ad hoc Working Group on the
Durban platform. It's so obvious

2493
02:31:12,180 --> 02:31:15,780
that this is such bull crap,
because no one really wants to

2494
02:31:16,020 --> 02:31:19,470
commit to anything. Because it
means that we'd have to send

2495
02:31:19,470 --> 02:31:26,160
money to poor nations, typically
in Africa. So there is no

2496
02:31:26,160 --> 02:31:30,510
outcome. They have what they
call a good framework for the

2497
02:31:30,510 --> 02:31:38,340
2015 meeting in Paris. And this
this thing is filled with Well,

2498
02:31:38,340 --> 02:31:38,670
I think I'd

2499
02:31:38,670 --> 02:31:39,630
like to go to that one.

2500
02:31:40,140 --> 02:31:43,560
Yeah, to get our hair done with
with everybody else. Perfect for

2501
02:31:43,560 --> 02:31:44,430
that. Nobody gets

2502
02:31:44,430 --> 02:31:45,240
that joke.

2503
02:31:46,350 --> 02:31:47,160
The hair done.

2504
02:31:47,640 --> 02:31:50,400
Yeah, that's referred this as
for new newbies to the show.

2505
02:31:50,400 --> 02:31:52,500
This was a reference to Hillary
Clinton.

2506
02:31:52,950 --> 02:31:58,260
Yes, she used to go to Paris and
her hair would look dynamite. So

2507
02:31:58,260 --> 02:32:02,880
the whole document is filled
with reiterating recalling

2508
02:32:02,910 --> 02:32:09,450
affirming, noting our favorite
underscoring urging,

2509
02:32:09,480 --> 02:32:12,330
acknowledging there's pretty
much nowhere in there that

2510
02:32:12,360 --> 02:32:16,110
really agrees Oh, yes. agrees
that each party's intended

2511
02:32:16,110 --> 02:32:19,590
national nationally determined
contribution towards achieving

2512
02:32:19,590 --> 02:32:23,040
the objective of the convention,
as set out in its Article Two

2513
02:32:23,190 --> 02:32:26,280
will represent a progression
beyond the current undertaking

2514
02:32:26,280 --> 02:32:29,850
of that party. which I think
means we all promised to do

2515
02:32:29,850 --> 02:32:37,920
better. Is this this is really
to me. proof that this is

2516
02:32:37,920 --> 02:32:41,550
bullcrap. No one wants to do
anything.

2517
02:32:42,390 --> 02:32:45,390
Well, they know they don't want
to talk a big game. They

2518
02:32:45,390 --> 02:32:48,180
really, really, really don't
want to do anything.

2519
02:32:49,200 --> 02:32:53,100
Well, I don't even know why it's
no, the whole thing is ludicrous

2520
02:32:53,100 --> 02:32:55,260
in so many, so many different
angles.

2521
02:32:57,300 --> 02:33:01,440
And I don't think I don't think
I think I'm out.

2522
02:33:02,369 --> 02:33:04,709
Okay, well, that's good. We did
the show. It doesn't mean we

2523
02:33:04,709 --> 02:33:06,389
have to just stretch forever.

2524
02:33:06,630 --> 02:33:08,910
Well, I had two things you tell
me if you're interested in one

2525
02:33:08,910 --> 02:33:16,800
is Matt and Jen, talking about
Turkey's NATO membership. Now

2526
02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:22,920
that they are friends with
Russia. Want to join the

2527
02:33:22,920 --> 02:33:27,510
Shanghai cooperate cooperative
organization? Little back and

2528
02:33:27,510 --> 02:33:28,620
forth from Jen and Matt.

2529
02:33:29,160 --> 02:33:32,670
I loved this. This is the show
this is the oh this Janice is

2530
02:33:32,670 --> 02:33:33,630
not Marie.

2531
02:33:33,660 --> 02:33:36,180
No, it's not Matt. We don't
Yeah, it's the mountain Henry

2532
02:33:36,180 --> 02:33:39,090
show. But But Marie is no longer
in the show.

2533
02:33:39,120 --> 02:33:42,990
One of the prerequisites for
being a member of NATO or at

2534
02:33:42,990 --> 02:33:46,110
least a member in good standing
in NATO is to be a

2535
02:33:48,150 --> 02:33:48,870
democracy.

2536
02:33:50,880 --> 02:33:54,150
Are you concerned at all this
backsliding that you're seeing

2537
02:33:54,150 --> 02:34:00,600
in Turkey that you've expressed
concern about might hurt turkeys

2538
02:34:00,630 --> 02:34:07,500
standing in NATO as a good solid
number? No, no, no. So in other

2539
02:34:07,500 --> 02:34:12,540
words, they can go around and
detain as many journalists and

2540
02:34:12,540 --> 02:34:14,220
cops as they will I love

2541
02:34:14,220 --> 02:34:18,240
how he sets her up. Get her to
say no is it Oh really? That's

2542
02:34:18,240 --> 02:34:22,470
okay. You're a dumb democracy if
you arrest journalist and an

2543
02:34:22,470 --> 02:34:24,180
arrest cops and

2544
02:34:24,210 --> 02:34:29,280
and try soccer club supporters
for trying to overthrow the

2545
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:33,780
government by attending a what
you'd say is illegal protest.

2546
02:34:34,260 --> 02:34:38,430
And it has no implications for
them, or any other NATO member.

2547
02:34:39,510 --> 02:34:42,330
It's not the same thing was
going on in there and there

2548
02:34:43,020 --> 02:34:48,180
is a democracy. As I mentioned,
a number of these important

2549
02:34:48,180 --> 02:34:51,510
values like media freedom, due
process, judicial independence

2550
02:34:51,540 --> 02:34:53,610
are enshrined in the Turkish
constitution,

2551
02:34:54,120 --> 02:34:56,310
so that they're actually
respected. I mean, there's a lot

2552
02:34:56,310 --> 02:34:57,030
of things and trying to

2553
02:34:58,500 --> 02:35:01,680
eke out as do others We have
concerns about the

2554
02:35:01,680 --> 02:35:04,830
implementation of these pieces.
But it does not mean that they

2555
02:35:04,830 --> 02:35:08,130
don't continue to be an
important ally and NATO partner.

2556
02:35:08,580 --> 02:35:17,490
There you go. It's not a
problem. Interesting. Yeah.

2557
02:35:20,550 --> 02:35:24,270
All right. All right. I think we
should end the show today. For

2558
02:35:24,300 --> 02:35:27,420
this. This particular episode is
going to be very interesting to

2559
02:35:27,420 --> 02:35:33,900
see what happens for the next
program, which will be 380.

2560
02:35:33,900 --> 02:35:39,060
That'll be on Sunday. And I may
have more info from the back

2561
02:35:39,060 --> 02:35:43,320
channel, The New York channel
with the North Korea through

2562
02:35:44,640 --> 02:35:45,150
Don.

2563
02:35:47,040 --> 02:35:49,110
I think that will be very
entertaining and very

2564
02:35:49,110 --> 02:35:53,250
interesting and probably
incredibly unique. Compared to

2565
02:35:53,250 --> 02:35:55,560
what everyone else is doing,
which is just running around

2566
02:35:55,560 --> 02:35:57,930
there, waving their hands in the
air and yelling,

2567
02:35:57,960 --> 02:36:03,930
we however, will not succumb to
any threats from North Korea.

2568
02:36:05,670 --> 02:36:10,950
Ever, because we are the best
podcast in the universe.

2569
02:36:11,730 --> 02:36:12,480
This is true.

2570
02:36:12,510 --> 02:36:13,920
Thank you very much. Thank you
very much, everybody.

2571
02:36:15,270 --> 02:36:18,120
Thank you for your courage,
John, coming to you from FEMA

2572
02:36:18,120 --> 02:36:22,650
Region six in the morning
everybody. I'm Adam curry

2573
02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:26,790
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where all the news is obscured

2574
02:36:26,790 --> 02:36:30,600
by this North Korean bull crap.
I'm John C. Dvorak and we'll

2575
02:36:30,600 --> 02:36:34,890
be back on Sunday with more
analysis deconstruction where

2576
02:36:34,890 --> 02:36:39,630
the show was the product not
you? Dude right here on no

2577
02:36:39,630 --> 02:36:43,170
agenda? Remember us at the
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2578
02:36:51,780 --> 02:37:02,940
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2579
02:37:02,940 --> 02:37:05,100
will follow them the gate

2580
02:37:06,900 --> 02:37:07,620
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2581
02:37:13,230 --> 02:37:27,000
dude oh man you cray cray. Go
Okay, that was a medical

2582
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:30,030
procedure. I'm not a doctor and
neither are you. I'm a doctor,

2583
02:37:30,030 --> 02:37:35,250
not an escalator taking the time
to listen audios

2584
02:37:35,310 --> 02:37:43,230
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