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The titles look good enough.

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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It's Thursday, May 15 2014. Time
for you get more nation media

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assassination episode 617

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This is no agenda

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coming to you from the future
here in the hot pocket. Wasabi

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tour love hotel in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry.

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And from the past in northern
Silicon Valley, I'm John C.

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Dvorak. Buzzkill. A

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little more inspiration was
possible. What? Okay.

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It's early.

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Yeah. See, the minute. The
minute we start the show, that's

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when the Skype connection falls
apart. Yeah. That's crazy. How

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that? I don't know. Why does it
do that? We were on for 20

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minutes. It'll pick up

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it's the jingle.

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You're telling me the jingle
blows it out?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Weird. Cuz now some we have this
huge delay. I don't understand.

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How does that happen?

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It just does. You're in Japan.

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Yes. Hello. I'm just going to
shut down everything I can hold

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on one second. Maybe it's

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downloading porn.

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Yeah. Mickey's in the other
room. You never know what's

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going on. Alright, so maybe this
will help. Yeah, I mean, I'm in

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Tokyo. We are about an hour
early on the live stream. And it

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is 10. Eight minutes to
midnight. Thursday evening here

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in Tokyo.

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All right. It's 7:52am here in
West Coast time. Yeah. Just you

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know, not too bad. Alright.

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It's picking up again. Maybe it
was BitTorrent Sync or

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something? Who knows? Who knows
what was running. Anyway, this

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is our third day here. And also
when we leave Yes, Sunday, no.

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Fourth day? I don't know. It's
so confusing living on the other

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side of the world.

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You've been there for a month.

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And now?

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No, not quite a month. But I
tell you, I'll tell you one

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thing. I think we need to live
here a couple months out of the

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year. Okay, if I why? Wow. I
love this place. Okay, die. Oh,

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okay. Well, I'm glad you asked.
Here is a list of why this is

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nothing like I expected. And I
hadn't I had all these weird

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preconceived

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English like you expected? I'm
sorry.

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Nothing like it.

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Okay. First, we've got to really
figure out why all of a sudden,

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I can't even hear you. Hold on.

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Hold on one second. Can you just
talk for a moment? Yeah, sure.

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You know, bother

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you Now this happens more now
than it ever used to in the

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past, you go to a website, and
you dissipate, oh, I want to

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make I want to print this page
out. So I can, you know, do

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something with it. So you print
the page out and you get blank

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page million blank pages with
one or two items on each page.

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It's a disaster because of all
the JavaScript crap that is on

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these pages. And you just like
no, they don't. And whatever

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happened to the little icon said
print, specifically to create a

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page you can print nicely, they
don't do that anymore. No,

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because of all the Java Script
crap. Yeah.

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Anyway, well, it's not. There's
not just JavaScript. It's all

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the advertising JavaScript crap.
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right. All the flash combination
of flash JavaScript and ads that

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are clogging up the page. You
can't print the pages.

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They I'm gonna call you right
back. Let's just see if we can

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make this a little bit better.
Yeah, good idea.

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Okay

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all right. Yeah. All right.
Yeah, much better.

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Okay. All right. Did you get my
rant about printing pages? Yeah,

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no,

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I could hear you. It's just you
became you know, like, like the

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20 metre band.

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CQ CQ. No, it

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wasn't CQ. It was it was just
you complaining about about

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pages printing pages now now.
It's in the best thing you can

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do is print as PDF that actually
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Windows

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yeah there's some that there are
some PDF options I mean that

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look think about that

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well on the Mac I have good
success with print as PDF Yeah,

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of course you're gonna get all
the ads and everything there but

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you don't have all these these
issues that you're talking about

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by the way a lot of people
taking exception speaking of

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printing to your your rant
against a for

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yeah oh yeah. At least a half
dozen people that get all upset

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Oh, I emailed you not the ones
that emailed me as per usual

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EEA for is is tall and thin like
Adam not fat and chubby like

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John

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that's objective

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All right Tokyo extents Tokyo
observations here we

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go no, no, no, no, no no, you
first you tell us what you

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expect that I want to stereotype
and then you talk about

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okay, the expectation was and
this you have a little bit to do

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with this just the way you I
clearly recall you saying Tokyo

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sucks traffic sucks the cab suck
it I hate it you said to me

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literally I hate Tokyo does this
correctly okay yeah all right. I

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don't understand why so but my
my expectation was a lot of

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annoying little people running
around shoving me ever said

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anything telling you my
expectation this is what I

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thought a lot of annoying little
people running around getting in

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my way. Way overcrowded, stinky
smoggy crappy dirty everything

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to small strip

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China.

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Okay, so the only thing that is
kind of true is small but he I

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gotta list first of all green. I
had no idea how lush and green

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and juicy this we landed here.
It could have been New Jersey

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you see?

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Yeah. Juicy. Like yeah, like you
like green, lush, green and

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juicy. Yeah. Do you like the for
the foliage is juicy.

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Well come on. Maybe I'm
romanticising a little bit. But

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you know what I mean?

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Yes, the Japanese like there and
you're in the right time of year

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because you got all the
blossoms. Yeah, well,

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no, I think we just missed the
blossoms. But everything's green

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everywhere. There's great trees
and we're right near these

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these. These fantastic parks.
Just but everywhere on the

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streets. green and green. Okay,
streets. The roads. Beautiful.

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Everything's in what's supposed
to be black is black. What is

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supposed to be grey is grey. And
there's no and they like they

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painted at night every night is
to make sure it's perfect for

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Adam when he's walking down
there. Everything is beautiful.

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When was the last time you were
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I haven't been there for a
decade.

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Okay. Oh, that makes sense,
then. That makes sense.

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Why does that make sense?

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I mean, well, I think

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that asshole hasn't come back
for 10 years that's fix up the

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place. Well,

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here's the question. What if I
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noticeable about cabs in Tokyo?
What would you say?

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They have the doilies on the
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What do you mean by doily? You
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this knit? Just a little covers.
The seats are covered a lot of

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our plastic.

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Well, yes. No, no. They had to
have like silk.

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Some material. Yeah,

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that's silk. What am I thank you
lace. Yeah, lace lace. Boy.

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That's

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a doily.

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A doily is something that Martha
Stewart uses to create? stick

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figures with? No, no, no doily.
doily is a piece of oily is

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doily is a piece of wood. round
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a doily is a lace piece of lace
that you put on the table and

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then you put a cup on top of it.
It's a piece of lace. Those are

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doilies that they have on top of
those seats.

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Okay, yeah, I'm looking at the
book of knowledge. Okay, gotcha.

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What is the what is it? You get
piece of wood. What is it Martha

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Stewart is always talking about
doilies.

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Yeah, doilies. That's what you
got on those seats on those

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cabs.

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I thought it was like a toilet
paper roll.

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Holy crap.

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Okay, all right. I don't know
what I'm talking about.

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Now, right, so what I noticed
the most here's,

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here's what you would have
noticed if you'd been here in

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the last decade. Yeah, the doors
open and close automatically

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when the car pulls up to you on
the street. This is very and you

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are not supposed to open The
door yourself. That is a

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mechanism. Yeah. That was this

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like this one you were here 10
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I don't remember that

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it's possible. These are just
sedans. These aren't you know,

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and these are this is jerry
rigged this is not a

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bigger cars than then you'd
think I know that.

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Now that kind of standard
sedans,

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yeah, American size. Yeah,
they're big, but salvage cars in

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the US

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that not really that big. But
regardless, that's it, they have

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a special mechanism that is that
is jerry rigged onto the rear

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left hand door. And you are not
to open the door yourself. You

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stand there, the left hand rear
passenger door opens, you get

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in, and then he closes it. And
you do not open the door to get

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out. He opens it. And then you
walk away and he closes it. It's

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the weirdest thing. And I didn't
know this in and day mastered

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Metis here, like the first day
we arrived and I go to open the

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door and like oh, no, don't do
that. So what do you mean? No,

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no, no, no. Now he knows you're
a douchebag was a guy saying or

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something that some term for
douchebag foreigner gauging

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gauging the foreign devil so
he'll he'll let you get away

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with it this time, but you do
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Oh, that's charming.

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But every everybody is super
polite. Really nice. very

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courteous cab drivers are super
polite, very courteous. have no

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clue what you're asking them to
do. Can if you hold up a piece

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of paper or something on your
phone with this is the address I

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want to go to they go hi, hi.
But I know you can't read it.

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Then I actually didn't actually
know what you're saying. They're

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illiterate too. Yeah, that well,
they can't read English.

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Oh, and they just have it all in
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And then they just drive around.
We've had this several times

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now. And we say stop. He doesn't
stop. Like Stop, stop, stop.

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Let's let's look at the map
stop. He doesn't stop. To where

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if you say go straight what you
point straight? Hi. It's

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communication is impossible with
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Always had an escort?

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Yeah, well, we've we've had, we
have not had an escort all the

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time, obviously. So we've been
on our own and it's a disaster

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when we were on our own. Well,

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in China, the the rule is, I
mean, what you're supposed to do

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and what I in fact, have a book
that I have squirrelled away for

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Taiwan and Beijing and Shanghai
is you have to go to the hotel

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when you check in. And then you
have all these itineraries the

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places you want to go. And you
have the person at the hotel,

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one of the bilingual ones write
it all down in Chinese. But you

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know, page after page and you
have the English translation on

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the same page, and then you'd
hold up that specific

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translation for wherever it is,
you want to go to the cabbie and

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he takes you there. And it's no
big deal. Because in fact, in

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China is very common for people
to do that. Because most of them

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have all these dialects. They
can't even communicate with each

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other. And that would be the
thing I would do in Japan. Yeah,

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as opposed to saying stuff to
guys that can't speak English.

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Right.

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The difference is we're not in a
hotel. We are in DeMasters

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apartment, her piano tear. So
there's no concierge service.

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There's no, there's no concierge
service desk, we just pop by and

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say, Hey, could you write down
some kanji for me? And we were

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completely self sufficient on
our own, which is very cool.

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Yeah, sounds like it if you'd
like to spend money on cabs

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with just a couple of kids. It
was just to the gallery because

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Mickey had her opening. We're
schlepping stuff back and forth.

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And how'd that go, by the way?
Very well, it was it was this

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evening was earlier this
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And in drink, apparently. No.

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But we woke up at five this
morning. And I've been prepping

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most of the day. And then we had
the the opening, which was from

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six to quarter nine, I think,
came back here finished up, you

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know, a couple of recording a
couple of clips. And then and

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then got everything started get
everything ready, because you

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know, just just all timing. But
the show at that show was great.

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And it was very, the Dutch
embassy was represented and they

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brought, they also kind of
brought their guest list for

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some of the prominent Dutch
people here. And actually to two

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people were very interesting.
Who were there. One was, he's a

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reporter, a financial and
financial energy reporter. So he

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said if I was hard somewhere, he
basically reports on oil gas

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pipelines and nuclear energy

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to get somebody to talk to ya

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for an hour. here's like a vile,
Adam curry. Who knew? Because

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I'm laying everything on him,
I'm smacking him down with South

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Stream. I'm laying down the bar
Syria, Ukraine theory. And he

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said everything I said, he
thought, yeah, that makes a lot

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of sense. Except for when I laid
out I rolled out that tsunami

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bomb to to screw up the nuclear
energy in Tokyo. He wasn't he's

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like, and you lost me on that
one said, Well, I don't know,

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it's, you know, the US and
Australia. they've tested 40

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Tsunami bomb. So it's not like
it's crazy, unthinkable thing.

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It's, you know. But I got I got
a couple of pieces of insight he

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was I talked to him about the
Nicaragua canal versus the

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Panama Canal. He said, Yeah,
everyone in the industry,

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everybody is talking about this.
But nobody really knows. Any

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full details. So it's one of
those things that the entire

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energy industry is all over, but
no one really know, is it, you

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know, are the Chinese and the
Russians doing it together?

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Everyone's still waiting for
this. I think a lot of info

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actually from him. For the
Russia, China deal to complete.

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This is where Russia is selling
their oil to China. And he says,

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you know, they've been working
on this for 10 years. And the

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whole issue is the Chinese want
a participation deal. And they

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want 30% of, of this the
resource of the sort of the

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ownership if they're going to
buy this oil directly from

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Russia. And this has been on the
table for a while, apparently.

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And so no one's really sure if
that's going to happen. It was

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kind of good. So I think it's a
good contact for the show. And

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have some have some good
insight.

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Yeah, the Chinese always wanted
his participation deals. Yeah,

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that way, they get a foothold,
and they got the 30%. And then

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they kick you out of the
country. Yes, the way their deal

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works,

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except that, you know, the they
would be kicked out of the

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country.

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Well, if they're getting oil
from Russia, they're not gonna

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be able to, you know, end up
buying gas. They're not going to

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be buying Gazprom anytime soon.

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And then I met this other guy,
and he is he's a very he's a

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journalist. And of course, I've
promptly forgotten his name.

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Hold on. He just wrote an
article for Daily Beast, about

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the kind of big news here in
Japan. Ave. has been trying to

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change the constitution. In
Japan, apparently the ninth what

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would you call it the Ninth
Amendment?

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Revision? No, it's

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like point number nine on the on
the Japanese Constitution is,

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you know, they can't go to war.

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Though he wants to? Well, you
know, we're behind that.

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But no kidding. And so he's been
he's been systematically working

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on changing this. And already
the Japanese military industrial

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complex is cranking up.

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Yeah, well, we want that for a
good reason. Tell me. Well, we

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believe that history repeats
itself, and maybe the Japanese

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will attack the Chinese. solve
some of our problems. Exactly.

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And, and so now Mitsubishi is
starting to apparently the

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Japanese are very good at
building stuff that kills

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people. Oh, yeah. Let me just
get this guy's name. And

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one of the Mitsubishi cars you
know what that means?

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Yeah. Okay, here's the article
is a joke. Yeah. Japanese women

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tell their men they have to
choose between love and war. The

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eBay administration's attempts
to turn this guy's name is Jake

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Adelstein will book the attempt
to turn Japan from a pacifist

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nation into one that can wage
war and export arms more freely,

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is being met with some
undercover resistance or to put

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it more accurately under the
covers resistance. A Tokyo based

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group known as women who won't
have sex with warmongering men.

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As long as you get to the point
of

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full scale sex strike just in
time to block Prime Minister

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Shinzo Abe A and the liberal
democratic parties that make a

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push for militarization. So
that's a typical Daily Beast

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angle, but this guy, this Jake
Adelstein he has a book coming

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out called the the last Yakuza
of life in the Japanese

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underworld, and he apparently
has spent quite a number of

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months hanging out with the
Yakuza. I believe at one point

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he had to leave the country for
a while. Things got weird. So

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interesting fellow.

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Yeah, that guy would be an
interesting guy. I'm sure he's

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got stories. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be
great dinner table

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conversationalist. Okay, devas
fingered chopped off.

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No, no, he didn't. He didn't. He
did make a joke about that

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though. He was like, I forget
what it was. We're talking about

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guns or something. So you don't
have any guns here? Is it? No.

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Oh, good. So you can't have a
knife here. You can have a knife

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as long as it's just big enough
to cut off your pinky. Okay.

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Okay, so every all voice systems
here, like giant voice systems,

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but if you're in a cab and
anything that is that is giving

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you an electronic computerised
warning voice is a young girl.

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Yeah. And speaking of which,
school girls, holy cow, Japanese

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school girls. I'm in love.

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I get it now.

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The ones that are all dressed up
funny. Oh,

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they're there. They're the I'm
just blown away. This is one

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street and you walk through the
street. And you're like a salmon

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swimming upstream and nothing
but just hundreds of Japanese

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schoolgirls. And some of them
are in uniform. But they're only

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they got like, you know, Lacy
things on their head and crazy

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whacked out colours and high
platform shoes.

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I put a picture of the Yeah,
exactly. The newsletter.

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Well, what I saw it was 10 times
better even in the picture you

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put in them and you take

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some pictures. Okay, yeah, I
did. I want pictures for the

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newsletter. Okay.

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Yeah, we got lots of pictures.
Okay, tipping. No tipping in

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Japan?

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Yeah, that's right. I didn't
know this.

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In fact, it is, in some cases
deemed an insult. Right. So this

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is, this is good. I encourage
this. No, tipping is perfect. It

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saves me 20% on everything I'm
doing.

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Okay, and with

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the yen the way it is this is
not as expensive as I thought it

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would be the point of what

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is right did well, that's
because you're at a discount

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right now. Now's the time to be
in Japan.

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Resources very impressed with
how they manage resources. And

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let me give you some examples.
For instance, this evening in

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the at the opening now this was
an opening that we weren't

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really in charge of. So
obviously there were some

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Chardonnay in plastic cups. I
mean, that's that's typical.

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That is a a global phenomenon
for art Expo. Of course, they

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also had bottles of Heineken,
brought by the embassy and some

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odd cheese. Yeah, Gouda cheese.
But when they when you have a

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cough, and they they put a
liquid in your cup, like in

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America, you'd fill it up three
quarters of the way. Here 1/3.

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If not less, it's just like a
little bottom that's everything

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is less, less, less less. The
bathroom here in the apartment,

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which is a very typical,
actually luxury Japanese

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apartment. Which means well
being luxury is great. But

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Japanese means nice Mickey and I
have to be bent over a lot so as

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not to decapitate ourselves
moving from one space to the

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next, as the doorways are very
low. But the bathroom the toilet

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itself that I had never seen
this and it seems like such a

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smart idea. And when you flush
the toilet, and it's a it's a

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very standard kind of looking
toward Yeah, it has the seat

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with a warming thing and all
that crap. But that's not what

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I'm interested in here. The the
tank of the toilet, on the top

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of the tank, it's a sink. And
when you flush the toilet where

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typically in the tank, it starts
to fill up again. There's a

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faucet on the top of the tank
that then all of the water

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starts coming out right after
you flush and you wash your

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hands and it goes down the drain
into the tank. Oh, I'd never

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seen this. I've never seen that
either. And again, it makes so

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much sense.

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Well, yeah, I guess if you're

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worried about water,

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but it's wine over you. Why not?
Why not worried about water.

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It's just it's a simple thing
that makes you gotta wash your

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hands anyway. And for guys, it's
great and you're facing that

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direction. Most of the time. You
flush the toilet and then the

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water starts running out. Great.
I've just washed my hands here.

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Good to go.

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Yeah, well encourages
cleanliness.

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And let's see. Oh, yes.
Something that I believe it

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seems to

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me that there's really a subtle
message to that device.

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Apparently the Japanese have
they don't have the water

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running. They won't wash their
hands. Huh Not a bad sign. But

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anyway,

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I don't think it's that

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as well wash your hands because
the waters were running. Anyway,

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go on

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the something that I believe if
we could convince Eric, I think

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would be a big hit safety
helmets. The Japanese safety

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helmet.

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That's because of those low
doorways. You shouldn't have.

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You should have been wearing one
of those.

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Everybody here who is doing
something outside has a safety

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helmet on. I don't care what
you're doing. I don't care if

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you're a crossing guards

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are called hard hats in the
United States.

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It's not really a hard hat. I
know what a hard hat is a

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Japanese safety helmet, which is
what I'm calling it. It has a

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different look to it. It's kind
of it's like the it's, it's not.

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Do you know what I mean? It's it
is it has a different shape and

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a different form. And it's high
gloss. And it has the bill is

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not so construction helmet or a
hardhat. As we know it has a

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longer bill. These are kind of
short

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doesn't. Most hard hats don't
have a bill at all.

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If you were to Google Japanese
safety, I'm looking

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at him right now looks like a
hardhat. To me, it just got a

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couple of blind is a little
difference got like, it's got

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like a rim around the whole
thing which we don't have, which

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looks makes it look like a
German war helmet from you know,

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World War Two. No, it's a hard
hat. It's like a hard hat.

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I think there's a distinct
difference between hard hats and

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Well,

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looking at a hard hat.

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Yeah, no, I'm seeing a
difference.

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You don't see that?

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I'm looking I just typed in hard
hat. I've got to know. They're

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so similar. It's not. And if you
look at the like a pyramid hard

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hat. Or if you look at a little
thing shop for a hard hat on

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Google. They have every variety,
including the Japanese when they

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all look the same. The hard hat
is really most Well, here's one

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with the big bill that you're
talking about. No, I don't see

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it. Is that different? It's like
it's just a hardhat. But why are

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they walking around the streets
with them is the question you

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and I'm reminded of, I'm
reminded of these of these

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characters who come in the San
Francisco and they spend the

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rest of their day in the city
wearing their exhibition badge

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from Moscone centre. Downtown.

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Yeah, now this is different.
This is something very different

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here. All right. Oh, I'm just
I'm getting kicked out of the

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chat room, but it's not the chat
rooms fault.

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While you're getting kicked out
of the chat room, it's

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the well the connection that I'm
using right now. Is a one of

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those MiFi things and LTE. Yeah,
now the bandwidth is is

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outstanding when you do the
speed test. I'm getting 20

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megabits down almost 10 megabits
up and I just had to move it to

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a different spot at the start
here we

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go I'm looking at this you lines
got you lined with big company

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they got a hard hat white nice
white hard hat for 10 bucks,

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which is about right Skald Guard
protective hard at $127.95 for

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global industries. That is a
Jip. Jip

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anyway, we are, we are being a

451
00:28:46,530 --> 00:28:50,190
good way, by the way for you.
There's a Vulcan cowboy hard

452
00:28:50,190 --> 00:28:52,620
hat, which is shaped like a
cowboy hat.

453
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:55,140
I got a Vulcan hard hat for you
right here.

454
00:28:55,740 --> 00:28:57,330
Yeah, okay. No one

455
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,940
there's a difference. There's a
difference and people will be

456
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:03,360
emailing us in that there is a
difference with typical Japanese

457
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:03,900
heart is

458
00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:06,780
that the Japanese version of the
hard head yeah, there's a

459
00:29:06,810 --> 00:29:07,710
difference. It's minor.

460
00:29:07,740 --> 00:29:08,820
I think it looks funky.

461
00:29:10,740 --> 00:29:15,750
I'll get one and wear it around
Austin. See how far you get. You

462
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:16,260
know, for

463
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,430
what is that boy cranky today?

464
00:29:20,670 --> 00:29:23,370
You had to get up early to start
early.

465
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,400
The hell's wrong with you?
You're not from around here.

466
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,060
Yeah, go on. Go on with your
observations. Yeah.

467
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,570
Okay. Well, of course, a lot of
of our trips so far has been

468
00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:43,980
very nice because Sir Mark and
Dame Astrid who are of course a

469
00:29:43,980 --> 00:29:50,370
vie countin by counters here in
in Tokyo and, and they know

470
00:29:50,370 --> 00:29:53,700
their way around here and people
know them. And they've been

471
00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:56,550
taking extremely good care of
us, you know, that we arrived

472
00:29:56,550 --> 00:30:00,540
on, got on with a Tuesday
evening or whatever. They had a

473
00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:04,890
car pick us up at the airport.
And that was my first experience

474
00:30:04,890 --> 00:30:08,520
like whoa, where's the traffic?
There was no traffic and it was

475
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,480
6pm

476
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:14,370
Oh, yeah, in Narita. Yeah, yeah
I'm travelling nowhere

477
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,610
that's quite a ways away from
the city but there was no

478
00:30:17,610 --> 00:30:22,290
traffic and now there's beauty
beautiful car like a like a kind

479
00:30:22,290 --> 00:30:25,710
of a bus you know like I don't
know I don't know it was it was

480
00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:32,130
nice leather smell nice had the
the head the no doilies no doors

481
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,120
no no doilies the guys wearing
white gloves you know perfect

482
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,870
little hat little uniform. We're
watching sumo wrestlers live on

483
00:30:39,870 --> 00:30:40,500
TV.

484
00:30:40,530 --> 00:30:42,090
Was it a hard hat? No, it

485
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:45,990
was not a hard hat. Then then
you know we arrive and is it

486
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:49,680
okay and then take us out to
dinner we go to this place it

487
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,360
was a little small place and the
head you know on the steps going

488
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,860
down into it. There was a

489
00:30:56,010 --> 00:30:59,250
it was a small place or a little
small place how small was don't

490
00:30:59,250 --> 00:30:59,610
be such

491
00:30:59,610 --> 00:31:02,280
a dick Dvorak I just saying
yeah, it's

492
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,400
late for me. I'm very tired and
you're up early and cranky.

493
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,420
Don't be a shit.

494
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600
Okay, okay. Say anything. I
think

495
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,730
the problem is you're just
jealous. That's the problem

496
00:31:11,730 --> 00:31:15,030
you're jealous that you're stuck
in San Francisco a bee or

497
00:31:15,030 --> 00:31:17,250
hoarders house and I live in

498
00:31:17,730 --> 00:31:21,480
California we got no air
conditioning has been miserably

499
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:21,810
there

500
00:31:21,810 --> 00:31:24,690
it is there and if you didn't
sleep at all last night because

501
00:31:24,690 --> 00:31:27,750
of it's been sticky and you're
hot and you're just cranky and

502
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:31,830
angry. Alright, so a little
place not a little small place a

503
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:37,260
little place it stairs to go
down into it and at the top of

504
00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:40,530
the stairs at the street level
there's a watermelon in the

505
00:31:40,530 --> 00:31:43,470
middle of the steps and on
either side a little pile of

506
00:31:43,470 --> 00:31:48,600
salt now if I had what yes a
watermelon in the middle on the

507
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,440
top step

508
00:31:49,770 --> 00:31:53,550
okay and less than rice is on
the ground or tape

509
00:31:53,550 --> 00:31:57,930
on the ground right on the step
that there was a watermelon

510
00:31:57,930 --> 00:32:02,160
watermelon and to the left and
right of it a pile of white salt

511
00:32:03,090 --> 00:32:05,070
do you have to jump over the
water you

512
00:32:05,070 --> 00:32:09,570
have to walk over here you know
you have to this No I'm if I had

513
00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:13,290
seen this and not being with
Mark and Astrid I would have not

514
00:32:13,290 --> 00:32:16,530
walked down a door that doesn't
seem like a very friendly

515
00:32:16,530 --> 00:32:17,580
inviting place.

516
00:32:17,610 --> 00:32:22,740
It looks like the places close
marking it with watermelons can

517
00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:24,450
afford a don't enter sign.

518
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:29,010
This is the reason for this is
to keep away to ward off evil

519
00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:37,590
spirits. Well, yeah. Really?
Yeah. And then and then we had

520
00:32:38,850 --> 00:32:39,420
oni

521
00:32:40,530 --> 00:32:42,120
Yeah, I knew you'd have Guney
Yeah, we

522
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,680
had Guney. He like Guney. He has
very nice. Okay, good Tony,

523
00:32:46,740 --> 00:32:53,250
which is essentially sea urchins
the reproductive organs that's

524
00:32:53,250 --> 00:32:57,870
the row actually I read it's not
the row actually it's the stuff

525
00:32:57,870 --> 00:32:58,230
that makes

526
00:32:58,770 --> 00:33:00,660
gooey get Yeah, it's gooey.

527
00:33:00,780 --> 00:33:01,830
It's very gooey

528
00:33:02,010 --> 00:33:06,900
if you like Guney your your
Japanese will love you

529
00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:11,250
then we will the Japanese love
me anyway he's look at me and go

530
00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:17,880
Oh, we love you. We had
asparagus the size of a baseball

531
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:23,160
bat. Nice. They've really well
that's an exaggeration but

532
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:28,350
really huge asparagus stalks and
obviously in house it's just

533
00:33:28,380 --> 00:33:34,200
mind boggling and just really
nice and alcohol beer and Sakina

534
00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:42,930
okay perfect so I don't know man
I like it I it's it's so far

535
00:33:42,930 --> 00:33:47,760
removed from anything I know
from any type of culture and

536
00:33:48,510 --> 00:33:52,980
it's just no one is a dick here
they may be you know the cab

537
00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:54,600
drivers may not know what
they're doing but everyone's

538
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,980
really nice and just chill and
you don't feel weird on you

539
00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:02,610
don't feel threatened at any
minute doesn't know crime here

540
00:34:04,770 --> 00:34:10,020
are very very low crime they
have nine murders a year in

541
00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:10,500
total

542
00:34:15,150 --> 00:34:17,100
All right, well, I'm glad you're
having a good time.

543
00:34:17,250 --> 00:34:23,310
Yeah. Now before we left of
course we had to go through the

544
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:27,570
typical rigmarole at the airport
in America in the police state

545
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:33,600
where no Oh, before we get to
that arrival here you arrived

546
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,180
the airport there's no one
yelling at you no one telling

547
00:34:36,180 --> 00:34:41,310
you get in this line you're
gonna GREENGUARD that none of

548
00:34:41,310 --> 00:34:46,290
that. Here's a guy going Hello.
I am and he checks your your

549
00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:50,220
customs form all yes knowing you
do fill it out correctly. Or if

550
00:34:50,220 --> 00:34:54,210
you see someone all you have to
put away and explain it put it

551
00:34:54,210 --> 00:34:56,790
in to help you over here. It's
just no point to what you have

552
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:59,490
to fill out. Even though we did
it correctly, but he was he was

553
00:34:59,490 --> 00:35:02,760
very nice. Since smiling, and
then you go up to the to the

554
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,080
customs counter and no line no
crazy. No, no a million guys

555
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,230
looking at you with big guns
like, what are you coming to do

556
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:12,600
here? You should head you know
that's like America.

557
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,670
By the way there's 442 murders
in Japan. Wow,

558
00:35:17,790 --> 00:35:21,150
all of Japan. Yeah, I was just
talking about Tokyo I think is

559
00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:26,520
nine in Tokyo. And so there's
really a friend Oh, welcome,

560
00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:31,650
welcome Do you have any any just
you know, it looks Do your thing

561
00:35:31,650 --> 00:35:34,470
is it okay? And then as he would
want you to wants to do the

562
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:37,350
biometric thing and in, in the
US, you know, you have your

563
00:35:37,350 --> 00:35:40,500
whole print on there and they,
you know, this angle is this

564
00:35:40,530 --> 00:35:45,750
Logitech webcam at your face.
And here it's very pretty

565
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:51,240
colours. Blue, blue, blue, and
you're done with the fingerprint

566
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:54,780
scan. It's Oh, please smile for
camera, Moto Baba, Baba. And

567
00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:58,950
boom, you're done. And you bag?
Yeah, it's a good picture. Yeah.

568
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,310
And the bag comes right off. And
if you go to the customer, oh,

569
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:05,550
hi. Everyone's nice. It's just
nice. It's a welcoming

570
00:36:05,550 --> 00:36:10,020
experience. I remember a time
when it was welcome to America.

571
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,940
Please enjoy your stay.

572
00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:14,610
What now? Is that? What is it?
What do you want? Yeah.

573
00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:17,490
Oh, no, it's not even here. What
do you think you are?

574
00:36:18,210 --> 00:36:20,250
Exactly what what are you coming
here for

575
00:36:20,250 --> 00:36:23,760
embarrassing embarrassment when
I compare this? So before we

576
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,380
left, of course, we had our TSA
thing now. Very interesting.

577
00:36:28,410 --> 00:36:30,870
This is early. We haven't done
an early morning flight from

578
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:35,430
Austin in a while. And it was
extremely busy. And this was a

579
00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:38,640
Monday morning flights, I guess
people are commuters and our

580
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,330
airport is it gets busy. But I
had never been there during this

581
00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:48,510
period. And and so there's a
line. And of course, you know,

582
00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:53,340
us we always go in the precheck
line, which is also the the

583
00:36:53,340 --> 00:36:57,660
frequent flyer and or the
premium flyer line. And we do

584
00:36:57,660 --> 00:37:02,220
this with our coach tickets. And
we're standing in line Mickey's

585
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:04,830
ethos is a long line Hold on a
second I'm going to go up to the

586
00:37:04,830 --> 00:37:06,930
and talk to the guy Mickey gets
anything gun she wants, you

587
00:37:06,930 --> 00:37:10,770
know, she she's she has this,
this thing about her style. And

588
00:37:10,770 --> 00:37:14,490
style. That's probably what it
class, something we know nothing

589
00:37:14,490 --> 00:37:17,640
about. And then she's waving to
me. And she says, Oh, no, the

590
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:22,680
the TSA guy said no, the
precheck line is twice as slow

591
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,110
as the regular line now, which
is something you already

592
00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:29,160
identified this was going to
happen. And to everybody is in

593
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,510
the pre check. And it's just
it's taken a long time. So we

594
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:37,620
hop into the, into the regular
line, and it's moving along and

595
00:37:37,620 --> 00:37:40,770
we get up to the front there.
And we're together. And then

596
00:37:40,770 --> 00:37:42,900
there's the the lady's like, oh,
you know, of course, she asked

597
00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:44,760
you your name, which is all
ridiculous. What's your name?

598
00:37:45,330 --> 00:37:49,140
Adam curry. And she looks at you
like it? He did. He started out

599
00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:54,720
when he said that. Eric? Salah
Yeah, exactly. And then she hits

600
00:37:54,720 --> 00:38:00,810
the end, and Mickey gets to go
through precheck. She gets in.

601
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,590
And I have to go through the
slave scanner, which I don't do

602
00:38:04,590 --> 00:38:08,220
opt out, of course, but and she
can keep her shoes on and keep

603
00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:12,150
the laptop in the bag. And how
does this work? The woman, the

604
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:15,270
woman when she comes into
America every single time she is

605
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:20,700
detained for being a possible
terrorists. But Oh, when did she

606
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:21,600
gets pre check?

607
00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:25,800
Well to look at the draw. Well,

608
00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:33,270
not exactly. I was a little
irked by this. And I found a

609
00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:37,530
talk that took place a day
before yesterday from our buddy

610
00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:43,350
Pistole, the head of the TSA.
And he had a couple of

611
00:38:43,350 --> 00:38:48,570
interesting things to say about
precheck. And I wanted to play

612
00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:51,570
the first bit here, which is
well, you'll hear we can

613
00:38:51,570 --> 00:38:52,050
generally

614
00:38:52,110 --> 00:38:55,740
expedite those. And so for
example, those going through TSA

615
00:38:55,740 --> 00:38:59,220
PreCheck, we've now expanded
from our original four airports

616
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:04,140
in the fall of 2011 219
airports, the 100, the busiest

617
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,500
airports in the country. And
instead of having four

618
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:10,140
individual lanes and one
individual lane and those four

619
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:14,100
airports, we now have over 600
TSA PreCheck lanes around the

620
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:17,880
country either open full time
during the time that the

621
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,670
checkpoint is open, or just
during the busiest time, the

622
00:39:20,670 --> 00:39:22,530
early morning or late afternoon,

623
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,590
right. So this is exactly what
we witnessed. And the precheck

624
00:39:25,590 --> 00:39:28,170
line apparently now is just
where you throw everybody into

625
00:39:28,170 --> 00:39:31,680
and it's become an incredible
hassle. And now the part that

626
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,550
blew me away.

627
00:39:33,570 --> 00:39:36,390
As more and more people sign up,
we can have greater and greater

628
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:38,970
confidence that these are known
and trusted travellers that we

629
00:39:38,970 --> 00:39:40,950
can expedite. Again, we

630
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:43,740
trotting out key point here,
trusted travellers

631
00:39:43,770 --> 00:39:47,460
have a greater population,
greater universe of people as

632
00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:52,440
known and trusted. And as we do
that, you will you may have seen

633
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,170
we've included some some people
who weren't part of the trusted

634
00:39:55,170 --> 00:39:58,440
traveller programme and a TSA
PreCheck lane. And if you have

635
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,780
been behind some of this one If
you don't know what they're

636
00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:02,190
doing that can be frustrating.

637
00:40:03,419 --> 00:40:06,899
Yes, yes, I agree that can be
somewhat frustrating.

638
00:40:07,139 --> 00:40:10,979
We basically have been given
some free samples.

639
00:40:11,069 --> 00:40:15,599
Oh, let me just let me just see
how this works. We've been

640
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:22,079
giving free samples, which means
no checking for hidden explosive

641
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:27,809
devices or shoe bombs or battery
bombs or boob bombs, a free

642
00:40:27,809 --> 00:40:34,409
sample to these people who have
absolutely no clearance. Mickey

643
00:40:34,409 --> 00:40:39,089
has had no no interview, no,
nothing. In fact, quite the

644
00:40:39,089 --> 00:40:42,479
opposite. She is detained when
she re enters the country

645
00:40:42,479 --> 00:40:47,879
because she's a terrorist. But
she gets a free sample

646
00:40:48,060 --> 00:40:51,480
to say okay, if you're known if
you're not in one of our

647
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,020
programmes, but we're assessing
you in at least three or four

648
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:55,560
away,

649
00:40:55,590 --> 00:40:58,770
oh, what would these three or
four ways be? Well, let me see.

650
00:40:59,130 --> 00:41:04,020
We detain her every single time.
This is bull crabs,

651
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,340
then we'll perhaps have you go
through and there's some

652
00:41:08,340 --> 00:41:09,540
randomization on that.

653
00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:13,620
Yeah, the randomization is that
stupid iPad that will pop left

654
00:41:13,620 --> 00:41:15,780
arrow, go ahead, you're cleared

655
00:41:16,050 --> 00:41:19,680
that we've worked with create on
then you go through that. And if

656
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,020
you liked that, then we
encourage you to sign up. There

657
00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:22,170
was

658
00:41:22,170 --> 00:41:25,680
no, there was no encouragement,
no one had a form that said, oh,

659
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,360
did you like that? Miss? This is
this is this isn't

660
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,230
out. Right. This is the tip.
This is the the security theatre

661
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:38,370
that we're stuck with. I'm still
reminded of the numerous you

662
00:41:38,370 --> 00:41:40,710
know, because they're supposed
to keep the one thing when this

663
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:45,750
all began. Was you got to you
can't separate people from their

664
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:50,700
luggage. So if you check in a
bag and flight one, and then you

665
00:41:50,730 --> 00:41:53,910
somehow miss it, and you have to
take flight two, they're

666
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:57,300
supposed to stop flight one and
take your bag off. Yes, yes.

667
00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:00,840
Yes. When's the last time that's
happened? Well, I've heard

668
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,970
them threaten it.

669
00:42:04,590 --> 00:42:07,380
You realise how hard it is to
get they have to essentially

670
00:42:07,380 --> 00:42:11,370
unload all the bags, because
they just tossed the bags into

671
00:42:11,370 --> 00:42:15,480
the luggage area, you see it
going up the ramp, thrown a man,

672
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,080
they don't know where your bag
is. So they gotta take all the

673
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,630
luggage, it takes like an hour.
You know how long it takes to

674
00:42:21,630 --> 00:42:24,120
Unload the luggage when you go
pick up your luggage if you

675
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,720
checked luggage in, you know,
you gotta wait forever. So they

676
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:30,900
got to do that. And then they
got to find your bag, which is a

677
00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:33,840
pain in the ass and then pull it
off the flight and put it on a

678
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,020
different flight. And then I
often don't view already on the

679
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:39,660
plane so they send your bag on a
third flight like

680
00:42:40,140 --> 00:42:44,640
without you without you. Yeah.
And then and that is something

681
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,290
that has been happening. But But
this theatre of going through

682
00:42:49,290 --> 00:42:52,860
the scanner and then the oh
we're giving you a free sample

683
00:42:52,860 --> 00:42:57,150
of what freedom here's a free
sample of nones police state

684
00:42:57,150 --> 00:43:01,200
freedom. Did you enjoy that?
What happened to protecting me?

685
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,220
No, no, no, give it to the lady
who you have absolutely no data

686
00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:06,270
on whatsoever.

687
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:09,810
Some people may receive that
benefit several times in a row

688
00:43:09,810 --> 00:43:10,710
and then not get it.

689
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:16,200
Oh, the Oh, you may not get that
benefit. I'm an American

690
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,120
citizen. I didn't haven't gotten
that benefit.

691
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,750
Same thing, even if you're in
the programme, because we don't

692
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:24,720
want to provide a roadmap to
terrorist so we will always keep

693
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:28,170
random and unpredictable even
for those known and trusted so

694
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:34,170
Wait, hold on. Oh, yeah. So if I
pay good money, yes, sir. To get

695
00:43:34,170 --> 00:43:37,500
on that pre scan thing. They're
pre screened. Yes, sir. One or

696
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:39,720
two they can say now not today.

697
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:44,010
In fact, if you listen to this
next bit, it even happens to him

698
00:43:44,010 --> 00:43:45,150
apparently. And just

699
00:43:45,180 --> 00:43:48,810
I can testify that personally
because I get random out from

700
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:51,420
time to time and they Okay, now
this is not really risk based.

701
00:43:51,810 --> 00:43:55,830
If I if I'm going through
standard training, but go along

702
00:43:55,830 --> 00:43:56,160
with it.

703
00:43:56,190 --> 00:44:03,510
Just go along with it slave.
Wow. Yeah. Now just to wind up

704
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:07,650
this little talk with just to
make it funny. Yeah, and there's

705
00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:10,560
a lot of this going on. Now. We
see this on the on the on the

706
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,430
telescreen happening. Often, he
had a little video which he

707
00:44:14,430 --> 00:44:17,850
showed him this is what you do
when you when you are creating

708
00:44:17,850 --> 00:44:21,060
this theatre, you need to create
an event in people's minds and

709
00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:25,410
make them believe that something
that didn't happen, maybe it

710
00:44:25,410 --> 00:44:27,750
could but you've got to give
them some visual aids so they

711
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:32,220
can they can really, really get
into it. And well then this is

712
00:44:32,220 --> 00:44:35,880
where we go from the pre check
into the the underwear bomber

713
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,920
and what could have happened.

714
00:44:37,950 --> 00:44:42,840
This video is just the 15 second
video from something the FBI

715
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,320
took so I still with the FBI
when the Christmas Day plot

716
00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:51,480
happened. And what it shows is
just the device that the 24 year

717
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,890
old Nigerian Abdul Muttalib had
that and the FBI and others

718
00:44:55,890 --> 00:44:59,610
recreated that device if you
will, which as you remember, he

719
00:44:59,670 --> 00:45:01,410
burned earned but didn't
explode.

720
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,030
Okay, let's just recap for a
second. This device that he had,

721
00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:08,310
what was the device that he had
John?

722
00:45:09,780 --> 00:45:13,170
It was supposedly as some sort
of explosive device in his

723
00:45:13,170 --> 00:45:13,680
crotch

724
00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:14,940
explosive underwear.

725
00:45:15,390 --> 00:45:17,580
Yeah, exactly that that would
blow up.

726
00:45:17,610 --> 00:45:19,080
Okay. So

727
00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:23,370
here we go. And so this was done
just to see what would have

728
00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:27,300
happened if it had exploded as
an as design is intended by the

729
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:31,830
bomb maker and others. And it's
just on a sheet of aluminium to

730
00:45:31,830 --> 00:45:34,260
replicate the skin of an
aircraft on a couple of

731
00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:37,650
sawhorses. And so let's go ahead
and run that. And you can get a

732
00:45:37,650 --> 00:45:40,260
sense of the power of this non
metallic IED.

733
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,790
So now they have a distance shot
in a field of a sheet of

734
00:45:44,820 --> 00:45:49,500
aluminium on two sawhorses with
this thing in the middle, none

735
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:53,370
of this happened. None of this
happened. The guy's crotch

736
00:45:53,370 --> 00:45:57,690
started to smoke and the
passengers of the aircraft, you

737
00:45:57,690 --> 00:46:00,870
know, hit him over the head and
poured water on his crotch and

738
00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:03,870
put out whatever he was whatever
matchstick he was trying to

739
00:46:03,870 --> 00:46:08,460
light up, but just to frighten
you. We're going to show you

740
00:46:08,460 --> 00:46:09,180
this video.

741
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,440
And of course, the whole the
whole thing explodes a hole in

742
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,810
the ground replay. There you go
replayed twice.

743
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,450
So you can imagine in a
pressurised cabin of an aircraft

744
00:46:30,450 --> 00:46:33,270
at 30 35,000 feet, that is
clearly going to be

745
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:34,380
catastrophic. See,

746
00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:38,520
this is what you can imagine,
please imagine, but it didn't

747
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,300
happen to we don't know if this
master bomb maker can actually

748
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:43,710
make a bomb or not. And

749
00:46:43,710 --> 00:46:46,980
not only that, but it wasn't a
government that stopped it from

750
00:46:46,980 --> 00:46:50,400
even beginning to happen. It was
the public at large. And it's

751
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,920
happened to same thing with the
shooting original shoe bomber.

752
00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:57,330
He waltz through, tried to lie
to shoot he was clubbed to

753
00:46:57,330 --> 00:47:00,300
death, not to death, but he was
clubbed with some guy by a fire

754
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:03,000
extinguisher they clubbed him in
their head and beat the shit out

755
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640
of him. And that's what the
public will do if they're given

756
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,370
the opportunity. Because
apparently the government can't

757
00:47:08,370 --> 00:47:09,690
do any of this work

758
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:15,210
now, but this, there's so much
idiocy going around. When it

759
00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:20,760
comes to people like this
Pistole guy, like Senator

760
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:26,220
Sheldon Whitehouse, and I could
not believe what I was hearing.

761
00:47:26,430 --> 00:47:30,420
And I have the setup clip and a
payoff here. They had a

762
00:47:32,130 --> 00:47:36,720
congressional hearing. And this
was, of course, about cyber

763
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:42,450
theft. And for some reason, the
American public, I think the

764
00:47:42,450 --> 00:47:45,300
American public is docile
doesn't give a crap. But we are

765
00:47:45,300 --> 00:47:48,900
all buying into the fact that
the government needs to protect

766
00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:54,300
your business. So if you have
any kind of business, and you

767
00:47:54,300 --> 00:47:58,860
have having a computer, and you
use the internet, apparently

768
00:47:58,890 --> 00:48:02,100
we're allowing it to be the
government's business to protect

769
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:06,900
us from well, not just cyber
thieves, but from the Chinese,

770
00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:11,460
obviously. And then this, this
whole thing is wrong to me.

771
00:48:11,490 --> 00:48:15,510
Since when is the government
tasked with protecting your

772
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:20,130
business from theft? Is this a
government function? Am I

773
00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:21,390
misunderstanding? This

774
00:48:21,390 --> 00:48:24,420
is what the police does that
mean? Do they they protect you

775
00:48:24,420 --> 00:48:27,210
from theft, that they patrol the
streets and if somebody's

776
00:48:27,210 --> 00:48:29,850
breaking into your place, then
you will arrest them?

777
00:48:30,210 --> 00:48:34,260
I don't think it's the same
thing. It's not it's not the

778
00:48:34,260 --> 00:48:34,770
same.

779
00:48:35,340 --> 00:48:37,170
Why not? It sounds the same to
me.

780
00:48:37,710 --> 00:48:41,730
They don't have checkpoints on
the roads to make sure that no

781
00:48:41,730 --> 00:48:46,980
one who is coming down my road
as a cyber is a thief. If so, if

782
00:48:46,980 --> 00:48:49,890
they kept someone breaking in,
and they're, they're smashing a

783
00:48:49,890 --> 00:48:54,000
window, but these guys are doing
they want to firewall the entire

784
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,550
country. And you know, then of
course, you're gonna have to

785
00:48:56,550 --> 00:49:00,570
hire you know, 1000s of
contractors to do all this. You

786
00:49:00,570 --> 00:49:03,330
know, this is about making the
internet all of a sudden some

787
00:49:03,330 --> 00:49:05,850
kind of national infrastructure
that needs to be protected,

788
00:49:05,850 --> 00:49:10,110
which is is ludicrous. You can't
do it. Anyway, here's the here's

789
00:49:10,110 --> 00:49:12,510
his, here's his little setup
from your spiel, and then I'll

790
00:49:12,510 --> 00:49:14,490
play the piece that just was
mind boggling.

791
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:18,390
American companies are renowned
as being the most innovative in

792
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:22,530
the world, that companies of
every size and in every

793
00:49:22,530 --> 00:49:28,200
industry, from manufacturing, to
software to biotechnology to

794
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:34,680
aerospace, own large portfolios
of legally protected trade

795
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,320
secrets, they have developed and
innovated.

796
00:49:37,439 --> 00:49:42,119
Okay, so he's talking about
legally protected trade secrets.

797
00:49:43,019 --> 00:49:48,509
So it doesn't matter if an if a
Chinese guy or you know, hacker,

798
00:49:48,509 --> 00:49:52,829
whoever it is, steals the
secret. If it's legally

799
00:49:52,829 --> 00:49:59,459
protected, they shouldn't be
able to use it. It's like if

800
00:49:59,459 --> 00:50:02,429
there's some kind of
intellectual property that is so

801
00:50:02,429 --> 00:50:07,799
hidden, you know that, that no
one can access it, then what's

802
00:50:07,799 --> 00:50:12,299
the where's the legal
protection? It's I'm not quite

803
00:50:12,299 --> 00:50:15,509
sure what he's trying to protect
us from, from what kind of

804
00:50:15,509 --> 00:50:17,129
theft? What exactly.

805
00:50:17,909 --> 00:50:24,389
In some cases, the secret sauce
may be a company's most valuable

806
00:50:24,389 --> 00:50:28,979
asset. The theft of the secrets
can lead to devastating

807
00:50:28,979 --> 00:50:32,459
consequences. For small
businesses, it can be a matter

808
00:50:32,459 --> 00:50:33,659
of life and death.

809
00:50:33,749 --> 00:50:37,919
Oh, really? So if someone hacks
into my computer and all of a

810
00:50:37,919 --> 00:50:42,509
sudden were dying? I'm not so
sure.

811
00:50:44,610 --> 00:50:45,840
Yeah, companies now.

812
00:50:46,050 --> 00:50:48,900
I think they I think he meant
death to the company. Now give

813
00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:50,400
him a break on that No. Okay.

814
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:56,970
The reality that they are being
attacked on a daily basis by

815
00:50:56,970 --> 00:51:00,480
cyber criminals who are
determined to steal their

816
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,260
intellectual property. As
Attorney General Holder has

817
00:51:04,260 --> 00:51:08,580
observed, there are two kinds of
companies in America, those that

818
00:51:08,580 --> 00:51:12,030
have been hacked. And those that
don't know that they've been

819
00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:12,540
hacked.

820
00:51:12,570 --> 00:51:15,840
Now, not really, there's no
other kind of company. That's

821
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,010
it. There's only two you either
you're being hacked, or you

822
00:51:20,010 --> 00:51:22,620
don't know that you've been
hacked. Me being hacked at this

823
00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:23,730
very minute know.

824
00:51:25,230 --> 00:51:28,320
Many of the cyber attacks we are
seeing are the work of foreign

825
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:34,740
governments, China, and other
nations, now routinely steal

826
00:51:34,770 --> 00:51:38,430
from American businesses don't
sugarcoat the secrets to their

827
00:51:38,430 --> 00:51:40,020
own companies.

828
00:51:40,050 --> 00:51:43,710
Oh, that's pretty big fight and
words,

829
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:50,220
their version of competition.
And let's be clear, we do not do

830
00:51:50,220 --> 00:51:55,470
the same to them. We are now
going through a healthy debate

831
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:58,980
in America about the scope of
government surveillance, but

832
00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:04,530
there is no dispute about one
thing. Our spy agencies do not

833
00:52:04,530 --> 00:52:08,160
steal from foreign businesses to
help American industry.

834
00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:12,660
Okay, what is what is probably
one of the best kept

835
00:52:13,050 --> 00:52:16,470
intellectual property secrets of
any corporation? I'm thinking

836
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:20,430
big, massive major corporations
in the world. What what is one

837
00:52:20,430 --> 00:52:24,300
of the best kept secrets that
everyone would want to have, but

838
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:26,040
no one has been able to
replicate

839
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,350
the formula for Coca Cola.
There's a

840
00:52:28,350 --> 00:52:32,070
reason why Coca Cola has kept
its formula locked away in a

841
00:52:32,070 --> 00:52:37,260
vault for decades. But in recent
years, the methods used to steal

842
00:52:37,260 --> 00:52:40,380
trade secrets have become more
sophisticated.

843
00:52:40,410 --> 00:52:43,860
Does he realise what he's
saying? This is there's your

844
00:52:43,860 --> 00:52:49,680
solution. If you have something
so incredibly secret, like I

845
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,330
don't know the formula Coca Cola
apparently it is possible to

846
00:52:54,330 --> 00:52:59,820
protect this Yeah, you're lucky
you lock it in the safe. Yeah,

847
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,820
if there's something you really
want to protect and you really

848
00:53:02,820 --> 00:53:07,380
don't want China to steal don't
put it on a computer on the

849
00:53:07,380 --> 00:53:08,010
internet.

850
00:53:08,580 --> 00:53:10,950
That was the was the folder name
tops.

851
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:19,170
secret formula don't look here.
And so this whole concept he

852
00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:21,900
just the whole concept is
ludicrous.

853
00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:29,850
To me, what are they up to? Oh,
I mean, there's money Bonanza

854
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,180
money Bonanza yeah, there's a
money Bonanza involved as the

855
00:53:33,180 --> 00:53:35,940
owner the same time to damage
the beast merch China

856
00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:39,060
essentially our companies have
given China all the secrets

857
00:53:39,060 --> 00:53:42,060
because we turned our
manufacturing over to them. So

858
00:53:42,060 --> 00:53:45,240
here you like for example, I'm
looking at the one of the

859
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:49,170
cameras I have the new Olympus,
one of the new Olympus cameras

860
00:53:49,620 --> 00:53:52,530
bottom and Olympus camera which
has got all kinds of mechanisms

861
00:53:52,530 --> 00:53:56,340
in it any of these cameras do
canon Nikon and they got all

862
00:53:56,340 --> 00:54:01,230
kinds of proprietary ways of
doing stuff. And and used to

863
00:54:01,230 --> 00:54:04,680
always say made in Japan and
made in Tokyo even and now they

864
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,320
all say made in China. So
they've essentially turned over

865
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,830
all their patents and everything
to the Chinese manufacturer. And

866
00:54:10,830 --> 00:54:13,710
it's generally only one or two
companies that make all the

867
00:54:13,710 --> 00:54:16,260
cameras they make them for
everybody. Yeah, so they know

868
00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:19,380
all the tricks that everyone
uses. Yeah. So So what do we

869
00:54:19,380 --> 00:54:23,040
got? What does that got to do
with cybercrime? The Japanese

870
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,210
and Chinese they got it they're
inundated with with good moving

871
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:30,450
material that they can use.
They're prevented from a lot of

872
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,230
using a lot of it by
international law. For example,

873
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:38,850
most zoom lenses for example
have no they're all most of them

874
00:54:38,850 --> 00:54:41,760
are all patented by the by the
Japanese and you can't really

875
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,480
make a modern zoom lens without
violating a patent and you will

876
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,170
be cited and fined and you will
be driven out of business. If

877
00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:54,150
you tried to steal one of these
one of these mechanisms. It's

878
00:54:54,420 --> 00:54:59,160
pretty much covered as bullcrap
this this is a bullcrap argument

879
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:59,550
well

880
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:03,570
It's a big deal and a lot of
money is going into it and a lot

881
00:55:03,570 --> 00:55:07,650
of consultancies are jumping on
board to. And let

882
00:55:07,650 --> 00:55:12,270
me ask this question. Cyber
criminals are attacking all

883
00:55:12,270 --> 00:55:13,800
these companies daily.

884
00:55:14,460 --> 00:55:17,160
As we speak, you're either being
hacked or you've been hacked.

885
00:55:17,759 --> 00:55:20,519
Why doesn't the Justice
Department do something about

886
00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:25,109
tracking the IP addresses and
finding these guys? There was an

887
00:55:25,469 --> 00:55:29,729
example after example of people
who have been hacked. They, they

888
00:55:29,729 --> 00:55:34,139
themselves track the guy who did
it like some kid in Minnesota or

889
00:55:34,139 --> 00:55:36,989
whatever, somebody hacked them
or has been harassing him. They

890
00:55:36,989 --> 00:55:39,869
turn it over to the FBI and the
FBI does nothing.

891
00:55:39,899 --> 00:55:44,519
Well, let's listen to our other
friend, Michael Chertoff, who

892
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:49,169
was speaking at the same event
as pistolet. I know it's pistol

893
00:55:49,169 --> 00:55:54,329
by like St. Stoli man, here he
is on the cyber threat. And of

894
00:55:54,329 --> 00:55:57,149
course, we all know whenever
someone says yes, cyber that

895
00:55:57,149 --> 00:56:00,029
he's a dick, because he has no
idea what he's talking about. If

896
00:56:00,030 --> 00:56:02,790
you pay attention to what goes
on at the Blackhat conference,

897
00:56:03,090 --> 00:56:06,960
in Las Vegas, there have been
presentations about for example,

898
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,360
the ability to hack into
pacemakers or insulin pumps. So

899
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,000
this was very interesting. He's
now taking the Blackhat

900
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:23,220
conference findings and turning
this into fear mongering to sell

901
00:56:23,220 --> 00:56:26,370
his services to the corporations
who are represented in the

902
00:56:26,370 --> 00:56:27,030
audience.

903
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,980
remotely, when those medical
devices are connected wirelessly

904
00:56:31,980 --> 00:56:35,070
to a monitoring station, they've
demonstrated that your

905
00:56:35,070 --> 00:56:38,880
automobile can be remotely
interfered with, through some of

906
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,080
the, you know, GPS and OnStar
capabilities that they build

907
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,400
into modern automobiles.

908
00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:49,560
Okay. This is this is working
out? Well. Yes,

909
00:56:49,590 --> 00:56:54,000
this is going to become a more
serious issue. As more and more

910
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,920
devices in the home, become
linked up, quote, to smart

911
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,340
grids, whether it's your
thermostat, or your smoke

912
00:57:02,340 --> 00:57:06,030
detector, or your television,
all of these things are going to

913
00:57:06,030 --> 00:57:09,180
be things that can be remotely
monitored, penetrated, and in

914
00:57:09,180 --> 00:57:14,190
some cases compromised. How we
think about the architecture,

915
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:19,020
and the trade offs involved in
an Internet of Things is exactly

916
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:22,260
the kind of challenge I think
that a an institution like this

917
00:57:22,260 --> 00:57:23,130
would be looked at.

918
00:57:23,250 --> 00:57:27,660
Well, here's an idea. I'm not
going to get a connected

919
00:57:27,660 --> 00:57:31,590
thermostat. I'm not I'm gonna
keep my dumb TV Thank you very

920
00:57:31,590 --> 00:57:36,360
much. This guy this guy can't be
serious.

921
00:57:36,899 --> 00:57:41,879
He's dead serious. There the
Internet of Things, which is the

922
00:57:41,879 --> 00:57:46,349
biggest crock of crap never to
come down the road thank you is

923
00:57:46,379 --> 00:57:50,609
going to be used to leverage
companies like charge offs and

924
00:57:50,609 --> 00:57:53,789
other consultants who are going
to scare you to death because

925
00:57:53,789 --> 00:57:57,029
this because your coffee pod can
be accessed and somebody can

926
00:57:57,029 --> 00:58:00,869
boil the water when you're not
home. Or do whatever you know

927
00:58:00,869 --> 00:58:05,669
make make coffee. Yeah, not
they're trying to find a bunch

928
00:58:05,669 --> 00:58:07,559
of stale coffee. The Chinese

929
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,250
are going to be brewing coffee
through the internet.

930
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:15,990
What happened honey, my coffee,
it's cold,

931
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,900
the Chinese are brewing it.
Those bastards

932
00:58:20,970 --> 00:58:25,410
there was a lot of things is
only being implemented for one

933
00:58:25,410 --> 00:58:29,400
reason and one reason only to
spy on people. Well, I don't

934
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,370
think that's even the reason I
think is to deliver advertising.

935
00:58:32,550 --> 00:58:35,310
So when you go to your you know,
your refrigerators got a big

936
00:58:35,310 --> 00:58:37,830
screen, it's gonna have a touch
screen because you wanted to I

937
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,290
don't know why you want to touch
screen on the refrigerator, but

938
00:58:40,290 --> 00:58:43,470
you'll have one and it'll be
asking you to say hey, you know,

939
00:58:43,590 --> 00:58:46,890
notice that there's a sale on
milk over here at the Safeway.

940
00:58:46,980 --> 00:58:49,650
You should go get some push a
button and use a coupon to print

941
00:58:49,650 --> 00:58:52,620
out on your computer upstairs.
And that's what's going to

942
00:58:52,650 --> 00:58:56,310
that's the real purpose is not
to spy on you because I mean

943
00:58:56,310 --> 00:59:01,200
yeah, you can monitor it in
their home, but that's not

944
00:59:01,530 --> 00:59:05,250
there's no money in that the
money's in selling crap right

945
00:59:07,590 --> 00:59:10,590
well, you chose one of my
favourite examples in the

946
00:59:10,590 --> 00:59:14,250
example that is always given of
course is your refrigerator will

947
00:59:14,250 --> 00:59:17,610
know that you're out of milk and
it will automatically purchase

948
00:59:17,610 --> 00:59:21,030
the milk for you. And some guy
will deliver it to your home.

949
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:24,240
That was the promise that's been
the promise for 30 years. I

950
00:59:25,410 --> 00:59:28,050
first heard that in the late 80s
Yeah, so it's

951
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,970
30 years close to 30 years that
and I still see Cisco

952
00:59:32,970 --> 00:59:37,410
commercials where the dad is
shopping in the shopping cart

953
00:59:37,410 --> 00:59:39,930
starts talking to him about
picking up the milk

954
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:45,990
I have not seen in version yeah
don't forget so so in other

955
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:51,600
words the shopping cart is gonna
be a nag yeah generally speaking

956
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,050
when you go to the store to get
milk that's what you get. Nag

957
00:59:55,770 --> 00:59:57,000
No, you get the milk. I

958
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,090
mean, it's I guess, forgetting
to do that. It's go pick up I

959
01:00:00,090 --> 01:00:03,210
never got milk, I forgot.

960
01:00:06,569 --> 01:00:11,849
Oh, we live in interesting times
where people buy into this

961
01:00:11,849 --> 01:00:15,299
stuff. And particularly
corporations are spending

962
01:00:15,929 --> 01:00:18,209
billions on these Jabra Ionis

963
01:00:18,510 --> 01:00:20,100
as because he got money to burn.

964
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,470
Yeah, well, there's certainly
Yeah, there you go. Anyway,

965
01:00:25,470 --> 01:00:28,950
John, even at this early hour
for you this late hour for me, I

966
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:31,890
would like to thank you for your
courage and say in the morning

967
01:00:31,890 --> 01:00:33,750
to you, John C. Dvorak.

968
01:00:34,350 --> 01:00:35,700
Did the spreadsheet come in?

969
01:00:35,730 --> 01:00:36,780
I sure did.

970
01:00:37,980 --> 01:00:43,050
Oh, well, then I will say to
you, Adam curry in Japan, where

971
01:00:43,050 --> 01:00:48,000
you are in the morning to you.
And in the morning, and all

972
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,310
ships and sea boots on the
ground feet in the air subs in

973
01:00:50,310 --> 01:00:54,960
the water. And all the Dames and
nights out there. Yeah. And I

974
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,010
want to say hi to everybody
listening in the chat room.

975
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:02,760
Yeah, I would say that as well.
Except for some reason I can't

976
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,370
stay logged into the chat room
and keeps I keep getting

977
01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:08,640
disconnected. So I have no idea
who's in there, but I know

978
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,010
they're there. And in the
morning thank you very much for

979
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,770
sticking with us no agenda
stream.com The origin of

980
01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:18,330
chat.net Thank you to our
artists Cosmo did the art for

981
01:01:18,330 --> 01:01:22,830
episode 616 This was a tough one
for our choice. Because we knew

982
01:01:22,830 --> 01:01:26,070
what that we knew the title we
wanted we which was jihadi

983
01:01:26,070 --> 01:01:29,850
Disneyland right and of course
there wasn't a perfect jihadi

984
01:01:29,850 --> 01:01:34,050
Disneyland piece of art and but
we try not to be redundant by

985
01:01:34,050 --> 01:01:37,350
using art that either portrays
or says exactly the same as the

986
01:01:37,350 --> 01:01:42,600
title therefore we wound up with
whatever we have

987
01:01:46,350 --> 01:01:47,880
protocol harem Yes.

988
01:01:48,660 --> 01:01:49,620
Boko Haram

989
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:53,700
right we use somebody this was
an older piece this is why we

990
01:01:53,700 --> 01:01:59,280
want people to not put the show
numbers on the art because we

991
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,890
sometimes will go back a couple
of shows and pull something that

992
01:02:01,890 --> 01:02:02,340
we

993
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,410
didn't use but that we that we
liked a lot exactly Don't Don't

994
01:02:07,410 --> 01:02:07,830
panic. This

995
01:02:07,830 --> 01:02:10,950
was a parody of course of the
which we've always thought of

996
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:14,250
when we first heard the name
Bogle harem or whatever it is

997
01:02:14,250 --> 01:02:20,130
Boko buku we always thought of
Boko Haram i These I did yeah.

998
01:02:20,550 --> 01:02:24,330
Within that name and of course
we did have one of our artists

999
01:02:24,870 --> 01:02:26,220
condemn us Yeah,

1000
01:02:26,340 --> 01:02:30,450
think yeah, this rip that
artists ripped off like oh, hey

1001
01:02:30,450 --> 01:02:30,840
Rob, there

1002
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,880
was a parody which is like a
legal by the way Yeah. And

1003
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:40,650
they're all the but some people
just laugh if you like a sense

1004
01:02:40,650 --> 01:02:44,370
of humour you there's nothing
you can do about it. So let's

1005
01:02:44,370 --> 01:02:46,950
thank a few people who helped
produce this show and executive

1006
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:49,050
producers and Associate
Executive Producer we actually

1007
01:02:49,050 --> 01:02:53,730
got to the newsletter pointed
out our new stone nation. Yeah,

1008
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,780
that was interesting. I Yeah, it
was invented by Spencer Pearson

1009
01:02:57,810 --> 01:03:02,940
and Columbus, Missouri. But
first let's start at the top

1010
01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:07,590
with Sir Andrew largeman in
Taipei City's right and she's

1011
01:03:07,590 --> 01:03:12,720
you just down the street from
right up the road. 515 ITM from

1012
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:17,940
St. Andrew largeman This FY 15
for May 15 donation by 15 and

1013
01:03:17,940 --> 01:03:22,050
have been a good one is to wish
Adam a smooth and fruitful trip

1014
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,880
in Tokyo. He's actually having a
juicy trip. Adams Tokyo notes

1015
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:31,020
and observations on his blog
were fun to read haha is instead

1016
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:33,540
of talking about on the show,
he's blowing it off on a blog.

1017
01:03:33,570 --> 01:03:40,470
Oh, please. I'd like to request
an Al Sharpton resist we much. I

1018
01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:44,070
don't know if you have that.
Yeah, like Charlie Rose. It's in

1019
01:03:44,070 --> 01:03:48,390
your DNA. And then biodiversity.
Well,

1020
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:53,700
the only thing that's happened
here very strange. I'm using the

1021
01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:57,990
new This is weird. Okay, I'm
using the new the new Mac OS and

1022
01:03:57,990 --> 01:04:01,560
it does some funky things. If
you I made I put the spreadsheet

1023
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,560
into full screen mode, and then
you can't get out of it.

1024
01:04:07,020 --> 01:04:08,340
Very slow. Okay,

1025
01:04:08,460 --> 01:04:12,870
well, that stinks. Yeah, well, I
got this full screen mode thing.

1026
01:04:13,980 --> 01:04:19,620
This is a harkens back to to dos
you know you had a full screen

1027
01:04:19,620 --> 01:04:22,530
because that's the way it
worked. Right? And this was like

1028
01:04:22,530 --> 01:04:29,070
some new invention Oh, full
screen apps. And then they I

1029
01:04:29,070 --> 01:04:31,380
thought it was a joke to be
honest about it. That was an

1030
01:04:31,380 --> 01:04:34,500
April Fool's gag Who the hell is
gonna go with what's full screen

1031
01:04:34,530 --> 01:04:37,140
who wants a full screen app you
want to full screen you just

1032
01:04:37,140 --> 01:04:39,750
click on the little thing it
becomes full screen. It should

1033
01:04:39,780 --> 01:04:40,890
default

1034
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,500
Well yeah. So I clicked on the
thing and it went full screen

1035
01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:46,560
and then you can't click it to
make it go back from full

1036
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:53,430
screen. You can't escape doesn't
work. You have to like command

1037
01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:55,410
tab into a different app. It's

1038
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:01,020
no real contract. Call me about
the sexuality. It it's in your

1039
01:05:01,020 --> 01:05:01,860
DNA

1040
01:05:07,259 --> 01:05:10,439
hit a Karma there. You've got
karma just even enough.

1041
01:05:12,570 --> 01:05:14,220
I'm surprised you had those
clips.

1042
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,000
Well, I have the full studio
here and everything is pretty

1043
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:18,810
much there's a Mac

1044
01:05:18,810 --> 01:05:22,530
you're using. Yes. Yeah. And the
Mac, you had to do all that.

1045
01:05:22,650 --> 01:05:25,740
Yeah. Because they've adopted
the full screen stupidity too,

1046
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:26,160
right.

1047
01:05:26,190 --> 01:05:28,620
Yeah. This is what you get when
you're when you're visionary

1048
01:05:28,620 --> 01:05:30,480
dies. Yeah.

1049
01:05:31,590 --> 01:05:36,060
So it's, I don't know why anyone
couldn't just simply reject the

1050
01:05:36,060 --> 01:05:38,940
idea. Or you know, if it was a
meeting like at Microsoft when

1051
01:05:38,940 --> 01:05:41,400
they came up with this idea, why
didn't somebody say this is

1052
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,950
stupid and idiotic? Why do we
even pay you to work here? Yeah.

1053
01:05:48,780 --> 01:05:51,270
That's what Bill Gates would
have said. Yes. Ryan Merritt

1054
01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:54,360
comes in from Hoboken, New
Jersey with for 2033 which is

1055
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:59,400
the stone nation. Yeah. And he I
look for note no note. He's the

1056
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,510
one who turned us on to the
clips of Sharpton making all the

1057
01:06:03,510 --> 01:06:04,350
gaffes. Yeah.

1058
01:06:04,410 --> 01:06:08,160
Which, at the end of the show, I
now have a one of our producers

1059
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,770
mixed like a minute and a half
song. Do I have all of all I'll

1060
01:06:13,770 --> 01:06:14,820
play that at the end of the
show?

1061
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:18,540
Yeah, it's a good it's a good
mix. I've heard it. Anonymous of

1062
01:06:18,540 --> 01:06:21,660
all people, which is probably
the smart money to give a stone

1063
01:06:21,660 --> 01:06:28,260
nation of $420.30 from Michigan
finally got a real salary

1064
01:06:28,260 --> 01:06:31,920
programming job now make 100%
more than any previous time in

1065
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,150
my life. Who needs college?
Yeah. Therefore, I figured I

1066
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:40,650
could. I could stop being a
douchebag. So equals therefore

1067
01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:44,250
they are conjunctions. Why not
stop saying so but not AND or OR

1068
01:06:44,250 --> 01:06:48,960
AIRCARE. Anyway, he. So that's
that's his note. He's just done.

1069
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,610
He's criticising us for saying
so.

1070
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,240
Yeah. What am I hearing in the
background? Train? Okay.

1071
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:58,230
It's 90 degrees and it's like
miserable. The windows open.

1072
01:06:58,230 --> 01:07:00,300
Okay. I'm just asking. It's
alright. You have the window

1073
01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:00,630
open. I

1074
01:07:00,630 --> 01:07:05,670
got it. Ben sir Pearson in
Columbia, Missouri. He's the one

1075
01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:09,450
who invented this for 2033.
Actually, it's it's coming

1076
01:07:09,450 --> 01:07:12,780
before but I didn't pick up on
it. In the morning John and Anna

1077
01:07:12,780 --> 01:07:14,910
been listening since just before
Christmas and have fallen in

1078
01:07:14,910 --> 01:07:18,210
love with the show. It's insane
to see how many media sources

1079
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,530
even many of the comedy podcasts
I love, which we know which we

1080
01:07:22,530 --> 01:07:27,060
are which we really are endowed
with repeating some of the same

1081
01:07:27,090 --> 01:07:30,210
bull crap memes in the
mainstream media that the

1082
01:07:30,210 --> 01:07:33,660
mainstream media is cooked up
and dished out between atoms

1083
01:07:33,660 --> 01:07:37,530
beautiful dissection of the
Bring Back Our Girls Malarkey,

1084
01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:41,070
and Johnson passionate defence
of the cannabis plant last

1085
01:07:41,070 --> 01:07:44,550
Sunday. I knew I could be a
Boehner no more please accept my

1086
01:07:44,670 --> 01:07:50,070
donation of 423 33 as the
ultimate stone nation. I've been

1087
01:07:50,070 --> 01:07:52,920
considering donating to the show
for quite some time and had been

1088
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:56,160
living the mac and cheese life
to save up for a doozy but after

1089
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,490
hanging Sunday show and plugging
no agenda on my own baby podcast

1090
01:07:59,490 --> 01:08:03,660
bowl after bowl bowl after
bowl.com If you have any

1091
01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:07,170
interest I knew the time had
come I'd like it creepy Charlie

1092
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,310
is now telling me that this is
not how can this be random

1093
01:08:11,310 --> 01:08:15,930
number theory? Not only your two
people in a row as for the

1094
01:08:15,930 --> 01:08:21,810
Charlie Rose sexuality thing,
which we rarely play. But they

1095
01:08:21,810 --> 01:08:25,470
both donated for 2033. So
there's something in the ether

1096
01:08:25,470 --> 01:08:30,330
about this about Charlie Rose at
this clip and pot. Well, hey,

1097
01:08:30,389 --> 01:08:33,929
hey, wait a minute, Charlie Rose
and pot let me

1098
01:08:34,769 --> 01:08:38,909
I think Mac me about in the
sexuality. It's in your DNA.

1099
01:08:38,969 --> 01:08:39,749
This? Yeah.

1100
01:08:40,590 --> 01:08:43,410
It wasn't for you. I want you to
think of the children plus a

1101
01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:46,650
little podcast Carmen never
hurts. Keep up the fantastic

1102
01:08:46,650 --> 01:08:49,200
work putting on the best podcast
in the universe. You really do

1103
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,620
make it look easy, but I have no
idea what I would look forward

1104
01:08:52,620 --> 01:08:55,020
to twice a week without the
show. You know?

1105
01:08:59,310 --> 01:09:03,720
You've got karma. All right.
Nice.

1106
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:14,730
My mom moving along. Just Diane
300 in El Eldridge, Iowa. I have

1107
01:09:14,730 --> 01:09:18,090
the note. Nice. I have to run to
the other desk. That's okay.

1108
01:09:19,260 --> 01:09:19,680
Right?

1109
01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:23,189
Yes, you're running to the desk.
And I'm still trying to figure

1110
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:27,599
out how I can reconfigure this
full screen app. I don't think

1111
01:09:27,599 --> 01:09:30,569
anyone likes full screen apps.
Do they? This makes no sense. To

1112
01:09:30,569 --> 01:09:32,969
me. It was really bad when you
have a big screen because people

1113
01:09:32,969 --> 01:09:36,359
like big screens because they're
cheap. Yeah. And the full screen

1114
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:38,129
app on a big screen is horrible.

1115
01:09:38,130 --> 01:09:41,820
Can't really it's not really
usable than the app. So that

1116
01:09:42,150 --> 01:09:45,690
so just Diane came in front with
300 bucks and she's has a

1117
01:09:45,690 --> 01:09:50,430
handwritten note on a card with
a cat with a Texas Longhorn on

1118
01:09:50,430 --> 01:09:53,310
the front so weird. Sorry, it's
been so long since my last

1119
01:09:53,310 --> 01:09:57,390
donation my only wishes for a
What difference does it make for

1120
01:09:57,390 --> 01:10:02,100
my husband and karma for our
kids? Is with human resources in

1121
01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:07,260
the oven. Oh, he's got a bun in
the oven as it were. So let's

1122
01:10:07,260 --> 01:10:08,460
give her that. Yeah.

1123
01:10:09,599 --> 01:10:13,829
If I knew that, what difference
does it make?

1124
01:10:14,309 --> 01:10:16,829
It's gotta be under Hillary.
Yeah, that's

1125
01:10:16,830 --> 01:10:20,970
what I thought that it would be
under the would be under our I

1126
01:10:20,970 --> 01:10:24,210
don't know, the Benghazi. Yeah,
I'm not trying that as well. And

1127
01:10:24,210 --> 01:10:33,150
it's what difference does it
make? I'm sorry, I I have the

1128
01:10:33,150 --> 01:10:40,110
Hillary emperor. What is that?
No, that's not it. I'm sorry.

1129
01:10:40,110 --> 01:10:40,740
I've you know,

1130
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,770
I don't do a make good for her.
Well, I

1131
01:10:43,770 --> 01:10:47,820
can do a delicious and then I
have what is this?

1132
01:10:48,930 --> 01:10:58,710
Talking about? Gay, lesbian,
bisexual, and transgender? Have

1133
01:10:58,710 --> 01:11:03,750
no idea. I don't know those two
delicious two.

1134
01:11:05,310 --> 01:11:08,040
I'm sorry. I don't maybe I don't
have that one.

1135
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:10,320
We played it.

1136
01:11:10,350 --> 01:11:12,660
Yeah. All right. Well, we'll
look for it. I'm sorry. Well,

1137
01:11:12,660 --> 01:11:14,430
we'll have to do a make good for
you.

1138
01:11:14,940 --> 01:11:19,230
Okay, sir. Danis Cruz and
meanwhile, comes in with $21.

1139
01:11:19,230 --> 01:11:23,160
He'll be Associate Executive
Producer for show 617

1140
01:11:23,190 --> 01:11:29,400
And he sent him a very nice note
a long note about the sense of

1141
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,400
media Yeah, of course that that
was what used to mean without

1142
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:37,290
seeds. And he explained in great
detail why there are no no more

1143
01:11:37,290 --> 01:11:39,810
seeds and stems in our weed.
John, you know, when you were I

1144
01:11:39,810 --> 01:11:43,590
aroma of the Doobs and we're
complaining about that. We can't

1145
01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:46,740
separate that in our double
album of Frampton comes alive.

1146
01:11:49,650 --> 01:11:51,090
That's that was the one

1147
01:11:53,220 --> 01:11:53,940
No, it

1148
01:11:53,940 --> 01:11:57,780
was more 1111 Wow. Yeah. And
that's

1149
01:11:57,780 --> 01:12:01,020
because everything's cloned.
They cloned?

1150
01:12:02,190 --> 01:12:04,110
I did was educational. Yeah,

1151
01:12:04,110 --> 01:12:07,560
it was it was actually it was
quite educational. You know, a

1152
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,470
lot of interesting things for
us. So that is also highly

1153
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:12,930
appreciated, of course. And
that's it.

1154
01:12:13,259 --> 01:12:16,859
caught us up he's a sponsor of
the den Man Show and hot

1155
01:12:16,859 --> 01:12:20,069
coffee.org Yeah. For anyone who
wanted to check that so those

1156
01:12:20,069 --> 01:12:22,349
are executive producers
Associate Executive producers

1157
01:12:22,349 --> 01:12:25,319
for 6671 Remind people we do
have a show coming up on Sunday

1158
01:12:25,319 --> 01:12:28,859
we get very poor donations is an
opportunity to get a cheap

1159
01:12:28,859 --> 01:12:30,899
producer ship it seems to me it
was

1160
01:12:30,900 --> 01:12:37,530
Sir Jean who remarked the other
day when he gave us 269 69 For

1161
01:12:37,530 --> 01:12:40,770
Suazo enough and he was
astounded that he was the

1162
01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:42,840
executive producer. Yeah he

1163
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:47,100
got he got bumped up Panzer was
relatively nobody contributing

1164
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:50,040
on Sundays. I don't even know if
they listen to the Sunday show.

1165
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:53,670
Whatever the case is coming up
go to divorce.org/na channel

1166
01:12:53,670 --> 01:12:57,660
divorce.com/any no agenda
show.com And no agenda nation

1167
01:12:57,660 --> 01:12:59,940
both have buttons you can click
on if you want to get involved

1168
01:12:59,940 --> 01:13:00,480
that way.

1169
01:13:00,510 --> 01:13:02,850
And thank you very much to our
executive producers and

1170
01:13:02,850 --> 01:13:05,340
Associate Executive Producers
these are real credits you can

1171
01:13:05,340 --> 01:13:07,740
use them anywhere credits are
accepted that just like

1172
01:13:07,740 --> 01:13:10,620
Hollywood with one big
difference is unlike those

1173
01:13:10,620 --> 01:13:14,460
phonies will actually vouch for
you if someone needs to know and

1174
01:13:14,460 --> 01:13:16,890
a quick promo in the PR
department you'll find that

1175
01:13:16,890 --> 01:13:21,600
under PR in the show notes there
is apparently a no agenda B

1176
01:13:21,810 --> 01:13:28,350
BlackBerry Messenger Channel A
BBM channel and yeah, and I

1177
01:13:28,350 --> 01:13:31,650
guess a lot of people use it and
they messenger each other on the

1178
01:13:31,650 --> 01:13:38,820
blackberries. What is that Bongo
so you can find the channel in

1179
01:13:38,820 --> 01:13:41,040
the show notes but I'll give it
to you right now is Charlie

1180
01:13:41,130 --> 01:13:49,920
0023653 foxtrot.org/and And of
course we need everyone to do as

1181
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,530
much as possible when it comes
out to propagating the formula

1182
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:57,210
our formula is this we go out we
hit people in the mouth

1183
01:14:11,130 --> 01:14:12,870
there we go all right.

1184
01:14:14,130 --> 01:14:20,190
I got a good example of how
everything works watching our T

1185
01:14:20,940 --> 01:14:25,080
I have a this I was watching
this we probably have the most

1186
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:29,910
important part clipped because
as you'll see this was a report

1187
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:33,840
on Palestinians and some good
some bad guy getting screwed

1188
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,070
over and then they had all these
horrible pictures and they were

1189
01:14:38,070 --> 01:14:41,730
wrapping up this this thing they
brought a special guy to talk

1190
01:14:41,730 --> 01:14:46,560
about the this something Well,
if you play the clip you'll see

1191
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,740
what the problem is with this
particular report stopped the

1192
01:14:49,740 --> 01:14:53,880
settler and actually, you know
sent him to the police and

1193
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,180
charged him with trespassing you
know no one can imagine as a

1194
01:14:57,180 --> 01:14:59,970
different you know the opposite
situation ending in less than

1195
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,180
arrest and presumably also the
use of live ammunition against

1196
01:15:03,180 --> 01:15:03,990
this Palestinian

1197
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:05,730
Saudis brother Adam.

1198
01:15:11,010 --> 01:15:15,150
Is this a signal? Are we seeing
random blue stripes on the on

1199
01:15:15,150 --> 01:15:16,290
the YouTube video?

1200
01:15:17,940 --> 01:15:19,350
Over the Air and really

1201
01:15:22,410 --> 01:15:25,770
sounds like what's clearly
digital?

1202
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:27,930
Let it play us here. Okay.

1203
01:15:29,310 --> 01:15:30,360
All right, we know what that is

1204
01:15:36,150 --> 01:15:37,020
this is nice.

1205
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,960
This is the coordinated monthly
test of the Emergency Alert

1206
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,260
System. If this had been an
actual emergency, you would have

1207
01:15:46,260 --> 01:15:49,560
received timely emergency
information. This concludes this

1208
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,720
test of the Emergency Alert
System.

1209
01:15:58,470 --> 01:16:01,410
Dr. T, Hebron, wow.

1210
01:16:03,090 --> 01:16:05,640
They listed that girl get her
nit, you're thinking?

1211
01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:08,190
Well, of course, this is done.

1212
01:16:08,190 --> 01:16:10,770
It was a great report, you get
to see a bunch of bloody stuff

1213
01:16:10,770 --> 01:16:11,280
going on. And

1214
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,600
that, of course is done at the
local level that's had nothing

1215
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,690
to do with our T. That's the
local level. That's your cable

1216
01:16:18,690 --> 01:16:23,490
station doing that's why it's so
crappy. Your local cable

1217
01:16:23,490 --> 01:16:24,090
station,

1218
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,950
it was was free speech TV as far
as I know. I know whatever.

1219
01:16:31,050 --> 01:16:35,160
Alright, so the even though we
were travelling, I was able to

1220
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:42,060
watch the 17 minute video put
together by Boko Haram, of the

1221
01:16:42,060 --> 01:16:48,480
so called abducted schoolgirls
of which apparently, only four

1222
01:16:48,750 --> 01:16:54,720
had been identified by their
parents. And when I was watching

1223
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:55,650
this video,

1224
01:16:55,890 --> 01:16:58,260
and by the way, couldn't they
round up a few more, they had

1225
01:16:58,260 --> 01:17:01,710
that group picture. And they had
the not

1226
01:17:01,710 --> 01:17:04,590
everybody who was not everyone
knew it was school picture day.

1227
01:17:05,549 --> 01:17:11,549
So they had 300 Girls supposedly
captured, or 276 is really the

1228
01:17:11,549 --> 01:17:14,489
base number, even though it
varies and they could only get

1229
01:17:14,489 --> 01:17:17,519
90 of them to show up for the
photo. What were the other girls

1230
01:17:17,519 --> 01:17:18,149
doing? Well, I

1231
01:17:18,150 --> 01:17:22,530
was just looking at the app, the
video itself? I was Did you see

1232
01:17:22,530 --> 01:17:24,480
the whole thing? You said the
whole 17 minutes? Do you have a

1233
01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:28,170
chance to watch it? Oh, no, no,
I didn't. It was kind of hard

1234
01:17:28,170 --> 01:17:31,980
because the original upload on
Youtube has been removed by this

1235
01:17:31,980 --> 01:17:37,770
user. Okay. But I had to go hunt
around and find find the full

1236
01:17:37,770 --> 01:17:39,840
length video because you can
find lots of little bits and

1237
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:40,380
pieces.

1238
01:17:40,410 --> 01:17:42,090
Why would somebody have it
removed?

1239
01:17:42,150 --> 01:17:48,060
I hope well, for re editing
apparently, this thing was

1240
01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:52,050
styled they had overlays they
had there was a there was some

1241
01:17:52,050 --> 01:17:54,810
chroma key in there there was
multiple canon guy

1242
01:17:54,810 --> 01:17:57,000
was against the brand new every
time when I saw it, it was

1243
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,120
against the greenback raw
background, right? What's the

1244
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,860
point of that and seeing it?

1245
01:18:01,950 --> 01:18:07,290
Well, the BBC, a BBC Radio
someone sent me this report had

1246
01:18:07,290 --> 01:18:10,650
a forensic specialist on who
works with the defence

1247
01:18:10,650 --> 01:18:14,760
department and the police.
Specifically his his speciality

1248
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:20,640
is video forensics of, of
hostage situations. And he says,

1249
01:18:20,850 --> 01:18:23,190
and this is what the will you'll
you'll hear in this a little bit

1250
01:18:23,190 --> 01:18:29,400
of the report. This is the most
elaborate hostage video ever, in

1251
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:34,020
the history of all hostage
videos. That go figure that this

1252
01:18:34,020 --> 01:18:37,950
would come from a terrorist
group in Africa. Hmm,

1253
01:18:37,980 --> 01:18:41,850
it was really interesting to see
that these people were

1254
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,580
reasonably professional, there
was at least two cameras being

1255
01:18:44,580 --> 01:18:47,850
used. In fact, in one of the
wide shots, we could see one of

1256
01:18:47,850 --> 01:18:52,200
the cameramen. They were using
backdrops. I suspect that the

1257
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,250
leader was recorded at a
separate location. But it was

1258
01:18:56,250 --> 01:18:59,190
very obvious to me that a lot of
preparation had gone into the

1259
01:18:59,220 --> 01:19:02,580
production of this video, we
know it's been subjected to some

1260
01:19:02,580 --> 01:19:05,550
post production editing in a
nonlinear suite because they've

1261
01:19:05,550 --> 01:19:09,120
superimposed a logo, etc. on it.
And there are some cuts during

1262
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,630
the actual recording. But I
found it very interesting to

1263
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:16,260
notice the amount of preparation
within in advance. There's a

1264
01:19:16,260 --> 01:19:19,830
suggested conversion from
Christian to Islam for these

1265
01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:22,680
young ladies. And they're all
dressed in black and grey

1266
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:27,030
clothing, as as you will have
noticed. So all of this clothing

1267
01:19:27,030 --> 01:19:29,880
would have been prepared in
advance. So that gives us an

1268
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,610
indication of how organised this
group of

1269
01:19:32,610 --> 01:19:35,940
people are. And when he put
those things together, the

1270
01:19:36,030 --> 01:19:39,810
extent of the preparation, the
sophisticated editing, I could

1271
01:19:39,810 --> 01:19:42,480
see that their cameraman seem to
have improved from the last

1272
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:46,620
video, what and the filming on
two different locations. What

1273
01:19:46,860 --> 01:19:51,450
does that tell you about trying
to locate the girls? Well, it's

1274
01:19:51,450 --> 01:19:51,630
got to

1275
01:19:51,630 --> 01:19:54,840
be very, very difficult. There's
obviously a number of locations

1276
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,110
involved. And it's interesting
to note and know that families

1277
01:19:58,140 --> 01:20:01,890
of these young ladies have have
only been able to identify four

1278
01:20:01,890 --> 01:20:07,350
of them. So far from the the 200
Plus that were taken the most

1279
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:12,720
recent abduction. So it's very
obviously a number of locations

1280
01:20:12,750 --> 01:20:16,650
are involved, it would be
someplace pretty rural, the

1281
01:20:16,650 --> 01:20:20,280
forest area in the background,
it was very, very interesting to

1282
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,220
note that no buildings are
visible of any note and it's

1283
01:20:23,220 --> 01:20:27,090
just trees in the background.
There is some screening in the

1284
01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:29,100
background as well which is
interesting to look at more

1285
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:33,990
closely. In the screening to be
seems to be possibly hiding

1286
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:36,120
something in the background. So
that needs to be looked at very,

1287
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:36,660
very careful

1288
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:39,540
banner, this is the second
banner that doesn't have Boko

1289
01:20:39,540 --> 01:20:42,600
Haram kind of logo, if you will
on it, but something

1290
01:20:42,990 --> 01:20:43,770
Yeah, absolutely.

1291
01:20:44,220 --> 01:20:50,520
So very interesting of this
video, which was it wasn't like

1292
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:54,720
it was out of focus. And I'll
tell you, you can put my kid in

1293
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,430
a headscarf and whatever you
want, that parents have an

1294
01:20:59,430 --> 01:21:03,750
uncanny ability to pick out your
kid from a crowd no matter

1295
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:08,220
what's going on. It's it is a
human recognition facility that

1296
01:21:08,220 --> 01:21:14,730
parents have. This is well
documented. So for only for

1297
01:21:14,730 --> 01:21:19,350
parents to be able to find their
their child in this group where

1298
01:21:19,350 --> 01:21:25,230
you could see a lot of faces is
interesting. Then all of these

1299
01:21:25,260 --> 01:21:28,710
extra bits, multiple locations,
multiple multiple cameras,

1300
01:21:28,710 --> 01:21:32,430
overlays green screen, not
seeing the background, as we

1301
01:21:32,430 --> 01:21:35,460
know from one of our producers
who has been in that area, isn't

1302
01:21:35,460 --> 01:21:40,200
it this is barren wasteland and
lots and lots of where it's not

1303
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,810
barren. There's lots of
buildings, lots of things to see

1304
01:21:42,810 --> 01:21:50,580
not forest, no foliage. So the
obvious thing that we need to do

1305
01:21:50,580 --> 01:21:54,780
as as United States, you know,
of course when we have something

1306
01:21:54,780 --> 01:21:55,560
like this happen

1307
01:21:55,710 --> 01:22:00,270
overseas, a US military Global
Hawk drone flew its first

1308
01:22:00,270 --> 01:22:04,200
surveillance mission over
Nigeria today. In the search for

1309
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:08,220
hundreds of kidnap school girls.
This comes as the Nigerian

1310
01:22:08,220 --> 01:22:11,280
government said today it might
negotiate with the terrorists.

1311
01:22:11,490 --> 01:22:14,670
This was an agonising day for
relatives as they tried to

1312
01:22:14,670 --> 01:22:18,030
identify loved ones in a video
released by the terrorists.

1313
01:22:18,060 --> 01:22:21,030
I got bad news for you. This
drone is not doing any

1314
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:24,300
surveillance drone, these kids

1315
01:22:25,230 --> 01:22:27,540
are going to drones somebody so
therefore

1316
01:22:28,980 --> 01:22:33,630
I talked with the I laid out
some of our ideas about the

1317
01:22:33,630 --> 01:22:38,100
Nigerian National Petroleum
Corporation zipline guy. Yeah.

1318
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,970
And about the the 49 point 6
billion and that they were

1319
01:22:41,970 --> 01:22:46,950
sending in accountants. They
said oh, yeah, yeah, well, that

1320
01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:50,160
makes a lot of sense. Because
yeah, we know about the the

1321
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:54,690
issues with the with the money,
they're in Nigeria so it's

1322
01:22:54,690 --> 01:22:59,400
becoming more apparent that the
trickery put together in this

1323
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,190
video is intended to be

1324
01:23:02,490 --> 01:23:07,200
another Nigerian scam letter.
It's just a high end version.

1325
01:23:07,230 --> 01:23:07,830
Yeah.

1326
01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:15,600
Hi, I have 400 Nigerian
princesses for you. And yeah,

1327
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,240
and people may find that
insensitive but I'm sorry

1328
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:22,470
there's so much pointing to this
being an elaborate not even it's

1329
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:23,340
just a hoax

1330
01:23:25,530 --> 01:23:28,320
it's a scam that's what they do.
That's their that's their

1331
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,520
specialty. It's uh, you know
that Nigeria, the Nigerian scam

1332
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:37,440
letter writers is a huge part of
the GDP of Nigeria I think

1333
01:23:37,470 --> 01:23:39,690
always up to it. Yeah, we talked
about this before

1334
01:23:39,690 --> 01:23:40,500
this. Yeah, we have.

1335
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:42,960
And this is just another scam.

1336
01:23:43,020 --> 01:23:44,280
Well, there was something else
that

1337
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:47,070
that I would like Jonathan. Oh,

1338
01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:50,520
I had an email about that. Hold
on a second. Oh, I had an email

1339
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:55,200
about names. Because of course I
was ridiculing his name. Let's

1340
01:23:55,200 --> 01:24:00,120
see. Adam I'm South African. But
where I'm from among the tribal

1341
01:24:00,150 --> 01:24:05,010
black culture names like there
are names like beauty good luck

1342
01:24:05,010 --> 01:24:11,430
and even cell phone. These cell
phone No, it'd be it would be

1343
01:24:11,550 --> 01:24:16,620
yes. Cell phone Johnny. quite
common. I'm not joking. Normal

1344
01:24:16,620 --> 01:24:20,850
African names like C fo Lin
Lindy and to me for instance are

1345
01:24:20,850 --> 01:24:23,460
still more common though. Again
this is from my limited

1346
01:24:23,460 --> 01:24:28,140
experience but cell phone that's
pretty cool. What should I call

1347
01:24:28,140 --> 01:24:31,680
him it's a boy Mrs. Walker which

1348
01:24:31,830 --> 01:24:35,160
column cell phone Walker fell
for Walker

1349
01:24:38,910 --> 01:24:48,000
the this was kind of weird. I
could pick this up on from

1350
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:52,950
MSNBC. Now. This is this is
weird and for two reasons. One,

1351
01:24:52,980 --> 01:24:57,960
the report is stupid to the host
this stupid three the whole

1352
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,810
thing is stupid. But once I went
and got Look at the report.

1353
01:25:00,810 --> 01:25:03,780
There was something that that I
picked up this is our friend

1354
01:25:03,810 --> 01:25:05,010
Ronan Sinatra,

1355
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:10,230
shambling, mindless flesh eating
monsters threatening to devour

1356
01:25:10,230 --> 01:25:14,160
each other alive. But enough
about Congress. No, I'm talking

1357
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:15,480
about. Well,

1358
01:25:15,660 --> 01:25:19,080
he's got this stuff. Right
shouldn't even deliver

1359
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,340
it now. God's newly revealed
plan for the zombie. You cannot

1360
01:25:23,340 --> 01:25:25,650
be you know, I've watched the
show. I've tried to get clips

1361
01:25:25,650 --> 01:25:30,870
from this show. I cannot watch
this kid. He looks like he's 15

1362
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:36,120
he reads like like an amateur.
He can't communicate with

1363
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,510
anybody that's on show. Why is
he even on this show? Why did

1364
01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:46,140
they give him a show it all Mia
Farrow's kid has got a show he's

1365
01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:48,660
making he must be making at
least a million dollars. No,

1366
01:25:48,660 --> 01:25:49,890
no, no, I doubt that. I

1367
01:25:49,890 --> 01:25:53,760
bet he's, he's making good money
on a show like this at all.

1368
01:25:53,790 --> 01:25:56,880
Because everything all the
research said he will be great.

1369
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,720
He does great Twitter. He's
completely tied into the White

1370
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,810
House of the State Department. I
should say. He's incredibly

1371
01:26:03,810 --> 01:26:08,310
smart. It just doesn't
translate. It happens. MTV used

1372
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:12,600
to do this all the time, that
hire people who look great on

1373
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,590
paper, and then they'd show up
and they would suck. Well, this

1374
01:26:16,590 --> 01:26:19,860
guy sucks. Yeah, so let him get
into his little gag here

1375
01:26:19,889 --> 01:26:25,799
pocalypse. I repeat, the
Pentagon has a zombie plan. Tips

1376
01:26:25,799 --> 01:26:28,709
elite opens with a disclaimer
saying while it's not a joke, it

1377
01:26:28,709 --> 01:26:33,839
was for training purposes, but
still zombie plan 31 pages of it

1378
01:26:33,839 --> 01:26:37,109
to be exact written in military
speak, listing eight different

1379
01:26:37,109 --> 01:26:41,069
types of zombies to combat from
pathogenic zombies like the ones

1380
01:26:41,069 --> 01:26:43,979
on The Walking Dead to evil
magic zombies. I don't even know

1381
01:26:43,979 --> 01:26:47,939
what those are to space zombies,
and even vegetarian zombies. You

1382
01:26:47,939 --> 01:26:52,679
know, like in Plants versus
Zombies. Still, the Pentagon has

1383
01:26:52,679 --> 01:26:53,339
a zombie plan.

1384
01:26:53,580 --> 01:26:55,560
Well, there's two things wrong
with him. And I'm gonna get

1385
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,710
around to why I'm playing this
at all. One the writing is is

1386
01:26:58,740 --> 01:27:04,800
atrocious. It is sad humour. It
is VH one level humour that's

1387
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:09,270
being written. And I'm sure it's
someone who he feels comfortable

1388
01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:12,060
with. Yeah, no, but I really I
feel really comfortable with,

1389
01:27:12,660 --> 01:27:16,530
with Joanne or whoever, you
know, whoever is sitting with

1390
01:27:16,530 --> 01:27:20,610
him and going through this. And
he really is not good at he's

1391
01:27:20,610 --> 01:27:24,660
not a prompter reader. He's
getting through it. But it's a

1392
01:27:24,660 --> 01:27:27,240
skill, you know, and he can
develop this over time. If they

1393
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,670
hired the courier for a
consulting group, I would turn

1394
01:27:29,670 --> 01:27:32,520
the gig down, but we could
probably do it, we could

1395
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,200
probably get a gig as possible.

1396
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,720
And hopeless guy

1397
01:27:36,750 --> 01:27:39,840
and Mikkel Schatzi joins us from
the Pentagon, which looks not

1398
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,940
under attack by zombies. But
everything all right.

1399
01:27:42,990 --> 01:27:46,170
Everything is fine here,
Pentagon security is absolutely

1400
01:27:46,170 --> 01:27:47,250
impenetrable.

1401
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,850
And now we probably continue
with the joke. And as a matter

1402
01:27:50,850 --> 01:27:51,120
of fact,

1403
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,280
it would be impossible for
zombies

1404
01:27:53,460 --> 01:27:54,450
to actually

1405
01:27:56,580 --> 01:27:57,510
and the lights go out.

1406
01:27:59,850 --> 01:28:03,780
Zombie meme at least 12 months
behind the times, maybe two

1407
01:28:03,780 --> 01:28:07,140
years, we had you had picked up
the zombie thing like five years

1408
01:28:07,140 --> 01:28:09,720
ago. And then I thought it
peaked? Well, this launches

1409
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,830
zombie movies. Now why is this
even being it's like old

1410
01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:14,400
material?

1411
01:28:14,430 --> 01:28:18,600
I glad you asked. So I pull up
the report, which is from April

1412
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,770
30 2011, which is when I think
we first discussed this report.

1413
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:26,130
No, I think we discussed the
report, but we picked up on the

1414
01:28:26,130 --> 01:28:27,480
zombie meme earlier.

1415
01:28:27,900 --> 01:28:32,220
So yeah, oh, yeah. No. Well, we
actually had a conversation I

1416
01:28:32,220 --> 01:28:35,070
said zombie and you said you
thought was gonna be something

1417
01:28:35,070 --> 01:28:36,870
else? Doesn't matter.

1418
01:28:39,180 --> 01:28:41,670
Yeah, no, I did poopoo the
zombie thing.

1419
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,390
And this is from the
headquarters United States

1420
01:28:45,390 --> 01:28:48,930
Strategic Command. Now, I think
they're trying to cover

1421
01:28:48,930 --> 01:28:54,540
something up here. Because there
is no reason to rehash this

1422
01:28:54,540 --> 01:28:56,970
zombie thing other than that
someone found it in there's

1423
01:28:56,970 --> 01:29:00,630
something in here, which could
potentially be embarrassing.

1424
01:29:00,660 --> 01:29:03,810
Now. What they will explain this
report and I refuse to play any

1425
01:29:03,810 --> 01:29:10,530
more of it is that this zombie
apocalypse plan was a real plan

1426
01:29:10,530 --> 01:29:13,950
done as a simulation. And I'm
going to read the disclaimer

1427
01:29:13,950 --> 01:29:16,950
that they that they're only
reading one little part of it,

1428
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:21,780
and this is Complan 8888. This
plan was not actually designed

1429
01:29:21,780 --> 01:29:24,780
as a joke, and this is from the
actual document during the

1430
01:29:24,780 --> 01:29:28,170
summer of 2009 2010. While
training Augmentee is from a

1431
01:29:28,170 --> 01:29:32,400
local training squadron about
the GOP members of us STRATCOM

1432
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,870
component found out by accident
it says that the hyperbole

1433
01:29:37,170 --> 01:29:40,470
involved in writing a zombie
survival plan actually provided

1434
01:29:40,470 --> 01:29:45,150
a very useful and effective
training tool. Now that's where

1435
01:29:45,150 --> 01:29:48,330
everyone stops reading but it
this disclaimer continues for a

1436
01:29:48,330 --> 01:29:52,020
whole nother paragraph. planners
who attended JP me too at the

1437
01:29:52,020 --> 01:29:55,680
joint combined warfare school
also realised that training

1438
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:58,350
examples for plans must
accommodate the political

1439
01:29:58,350 --> 01:30:02,040
fallout that occurs if the
General public mistakenly

1440
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:06,120
believes a fictional training
scenario scenario is actually a

1441
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:11,640
real plan. And this makes some
sense if you are doing a

1442
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:16,770
training exercise, and it's very
believable that it can confuse

1443
01:30:16,770 --> 01:30:22,380
people. Rather than risk such an
outcome by teaching our augmente

1444
01:30:22,380 --> 01:30:27,990
is using the Tunisia or Nigeria
scenarios, we elected to use a

1445
01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:30,750
completely impossible scenario
that can never be mistaken as a

1446
01:30:30,750 --> 01:30:37,170
real plan. Hello, since when?
Since when do we have Tunisia

1447
01:30:37,170 --> 01:30:39,120
and Nigeria scenarios?

1448
01:30:42,630 --> 01:30:43,860
Well, that's a catch

1449
01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:51,000
that, and that is what I like,
wow. Well, the Tunisia scenario

1450
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,540
hasn't played out yet. But maybe
the Nigeria scenario is in play.

1451
01:30:56,040 --> 01:31:02,520
So I have, um, I have the
document. And it's been very

1452
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:09,240
comprehensive. But I'm looking
for similarities now. between

1453
01:31:09,270 --> 01:31:14,100
what is in the plan? And what is
happening in Nigeria?

1454
01:31:16,170 --> 01:31:22,080
Well, we had a scenario play out
in Tunisia, was it post? Or pre?

1455
01:31:22,290 --> 01:31:26,310
What was the date on the
Tunisian revolution, which began

1456
01:31:26,310 --> 01:31:26,820
Arabs? That

1457
01:31:26,820 --> 01:31:30,480
was Arab Spring? That was
2011 2011.

1458
01:31:31,020 --> 01:31:33,300
So it'd be right at the time of
that memo.

1459
01:31:35,460 --> 01:31:40,680
But the memo does not specify
this. No, I'm sorry. This is

1460
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:46,830
2009. What they're saying is,
it's 2009 2010. See what it was

1461
01:31:46,830 --> 01:31:50,190
designed to? Oh, no, no, it was.
It was designed in 2009 2010. So

1462
01:31:50,190 --> 01:31:52,020
played out in 2011. There you
go.

1463
01:31:52,770 --> 01:31:56,640
Yeah, so the Tunisian thing did
play out. Yep. But we don't

1464
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:59,400
know, do we have a document that
shows what the scenario was?

1465
01:32:00,150 --> 01:32:03,180
It's, if I put it in the show
notes, people are gonna have to

1466
01:32:03,180 --> 01:32:06,750
help. There's so many. It's a
lot of high level jargon.

1467
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,810
There's a lot of you know, this
very obvious stuff, which I of

1468
01:32:09,810 --> 01:32:13,440
course, completely understand.
But there's a lot of real

1469
01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:21,720
operational stuff in here. But I
just found it regardless. If

1470
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,030
you're training and you're
training for Tunisia and

1471
01:32:24,030 --> 01:32:27,450
Nigeria, in this, there's a lot
of other things you could be

1472
01:32:27,450 --> 01:32:31,590
training for. Yeah,

1473
01:32:32,790 --> 01:32:34,350
yeah. Some coincidence.

1474
01:32:34,410 --> 01:32:38,130
And then for for this old joke
to be pulled out again.

1475
01:32:40,500 --> 01:32:43,440
Well, I'm not sure that I don't
know if you're ready. The

1476
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:48,270
analysis of the old joke being
pulled out again, is to distract

1477
01:32:48,270 --> 01:32:51,330
people from what they've already
given up on on on paying

1478
01:32:51,330 --> 01:32:52,470
attention to this memo.

1479
01:32:52,530 --> 01:32:56,460
Maybe maybe someone found
something or I don't know.

1480
01:32:56,580 --> 01:32:59,640
I mean, somebody slipped it into
the thing to get people to look

1481
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:00,480
at it again. We

1482
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:03,120
know we know that. Nigeria is in
play.

1483
01:33:05,580 --> 01:33:10,110
Weird while you're on the topic
of MSNBC, one of the things that

1484
01:33:10,110 --> 01:33:13,770
people notice and I always like
to look at what are the average

1485
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:18,120
what kind of person watches
MSNBC you can usually figure out

1486
01:33:18,450 --> 01:33:21,390
the viewer by looking at the
advertisement what kind of

1487
01:33:21,390 --> 01:33:24,690
person pretty much always Yeah,
yes, almost always because of

1488
01:33:24,690 --> 01:33:26,760
their target especially these
little networks are targeted

1489
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:31,110
like a lot of pill commercials
on the CBS news is all of a unit

1490
01:33:31,140 --> 01:33:34,560
for drugs for depression. Lot of
depressed people watch the

1491
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,950
network news. Yeah. What do you
kind of what kind of person do

1492
01:33:37,950 --> 01:33:43,050
you think watches MSNBC? Hi. I
didn't read it

1493
01:33:43,260 --> 01:33:48,240
seems to be something wrong with
your MSNBC commercial clip. It's

1494
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:49,350
zero bytes.

1495
01:33:50,490 --> 01:33:53,130
MSNBC commercial zero byte Yeah,

1496
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:57,990
let me let me check in the
original email. Let me see what

1497
01:33:57,990 --> 01:33:58,950
went wrong here.

1498
01:33:59,070 --> 01:34:01,230
So did the FUBAR boy because
that would have it

1499
01:34:01,740 --> 01:34:04,980
that's where I got everything
from continuing while I'm while

1500
01:34:04,980 --> 01:34:05,850
I'm working on this.

1501
01:34:06,510 --> 01:34:09,420
Anyway, so you have to try to
figure out you can you can

1502
01:34:09,420 --> 01:34:15,600
reverse engineer the the viewer
of the network's by listening to

1503
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,330
the commercials on those
networks and then sometimes you

1504
01:34:18,330 --> 01:34:20,910
just kind of humiliating because
you look you're watching the

1505
01:34:20,910 --> 01:34:23,100
show and the next thing you know
they got one of those little

1506
01:34:23,130 --> 01:34:25,590
mopeds or those little rides
right yeah.

1507
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:31,110
Or that's you or reverse home
mortgage reversal

1508
01:34:32,730 --> 01:34:35,700
All right, I got the clip play.
Yeah, now you can touch you can

1509
01:34:35,700 --> 01:34:43,350
figure this is an MSNBC viewer.
How can I use this pain? When I

1510
01:34:43,350 --> 01:34:48,330
can't go? It's like, piling up.
Wish I could find some relief.

1511
01:34:48,900 --> 01:34:52,560
Ask your doctor about Lindsey is
a once daily capsule for adults

1512
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:56,610
with IBS with constipation, or
chronic idiopathic constipation

1513
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,140
is thought to help calm pain
sensing nerves accelerate bowel

1514
01:35:01,140 --> 01:35:03,630
movements. It helps you
proactively manage your

1515
01:35:03,630 --> 01:35:07,170
symptoms. Do not give lenses to
children under six and it should

1516
01:35:07,170 --> 01:35:10,800
not be given to children six to
17. It may harm them. Don't take

1517
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,860
lenses. If you have a bowel
blockage, get immediate help if

1518
01:35:13,860 --> 01:35:16,860
you develop unusual or severe
stomach pain, especially with

1519
01:35:16,860 --> 01:35:23,670
bloody or black stools if you
stopped taking lenses and call

1520
01:35:23,670 --> 01:35:26,460
your doctor right away, other
side effects include gas and

1521
01:35:26,460 --> 01:35:31,620
stomach area pain and swelling.
Fine. Ask your doctor about

1522
01:35:31,620 --> 01:35:32,850
Lin's asked today.

1523
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:37,260
Yeah. I never heard of this
product before. But MSNBC

1524
01:35:37,260 --> 01:35:39,780
viewers apparently are
constipated. Yeah, the black

1525
01:35:39,780 --> 01:35:43,740
poop, and blue and black goo.
And they're all They're all like

1526
01:35:43,740 --> 01:35:47,460
Chris Matthews. Apparently, I
got this Chris Matthews clip.

1527
01:35:48,150 --> 01:35:51,480
The way he was with Obama. You
know, I've always felt the thing

1528
01:35:51,480 --> 01:35:56,310
on my leg is just that guy. So
now he's he's all in with

1529
01:35:56,310 --> 01:36:01,080
Hillary. Oh, okay. Right. He's
in love with Hillary so I can

1530
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:01,590
play this.

1531
01:36:02,910 --> 01:36:03,900
Oh, hold on a second.

1532
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:08,550
All in love with Hillary. Is
this another one? This is weird.

1533
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,970
There's something strange
happened. It's probably my

1534
01:36:11,970 --> 01:36:15,270
fault. Sorry about this.

1535
01:36:16,230 --> 01:36:17,850
You just downloaded titles?

1536
01:36:18,690 --> 01:36:23,430
Well, the titles look good
enough. Like, Yeah, screw it.

1537
01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:24,270
We'll just do some typing

1538
01:36:24,270 --> 01:36:28,350
to make these titles a little
more easy for you to chew up.

1539
01:36:28,380 --> 01:36:32,310
Yeah. This is I don't know, this
is clearly something that went

1540
01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:34,710
wrong in the in the overall
download.

1541
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,920
If that is going to stick, there
are substantive issues where we

1542
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,230
can have a broad discussion
about her leadership and her

1543
01:36:40,230 --> 01:36:43,410
capabilities to be president. I
think that's all legitimate. The

1544
01:36:43,410 --> 01:36:46,290
health question is a legitimate
concern. But that will be

1545
01:36:46,290 --> 01:36:49,200
addressed when she releases her
health records. And as I said

1546
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,380
before, Chris, if there's no
there, there, let's move on and

1547
01:36:52,380 --> 01:36:54,240
have that debate about the
future of the country. So

1548
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,060
let's talk about guts here, by
the way, and you know, Karl

1549
01:36:57,060 --> 01:36:59,910
Rove's guts compared to her
guts, okay, she goes up in New

1550
01:36:59,910 --> 01:37:02,340
York. I never give her enough
credit for this. But more I

1551
01:37:02,340 --> 01:37:05,100
think about how tricky it is.
She went up to New York to run

1552
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:07,410
for United States senator the
state she really never lifted.

1553
01:37:07,530 --> 01:37:10,650
She could have she could have
been pounded up there. She could

1554
01:37:10,650 --> 01:37:13,530
have you don't know, nobody
knows the vagaries of the voter,

1555
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,170
or the strange things that
happen in an election. She could

1556
01:37:16,170 --> 01:37:19,530
have been humiliated. But she
said, No, I'm going to put my

1557
01:37:19,530 --> 01:37:21,540
head out there and the ringer,
I'm going to take that what

1558
01:37:21,540 --> 01:37:24,780
comes to me, I'm going to do
something on my own. Not just

1559
01:37:24,780 --> 01:37:26,730
because I'm first lady, I'm
going to do it on my own. I

1560
01:37:26,730 --> 01:37:31,680
gotta prove myself, right. And
she did it dammit. And she never

1561
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,320
do anything like that. He was
always hiding behind his W.

1562
01:37:35,310 --> 01:37:37,320
These are a hide behind a
candidate and to be the

1563
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:38,550
candidate. I'll tell you, I'll
tell you,

1564
01:37:38,639 --> 01:37:42,719
right. This is because Karl Rove
apparently said that she might

1565
01:37:42,719 --> 01:37:43,919
have brain damage.

1566
01:37:44,220 --> 01:37:48,150
Yeah, there's some gossip going
around. This became a big news

1567
01:37:48,150 --> 01:37:51,300
item all over the place. Because
when Hillary conked herself out,

1568
01:37:51,300 --> 01:37:52,200
as we recall was

1569
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,410
about a year ago. Yeah. You mean
when she got her facelift, which

1570
01:37:55,440 --> 01:37:59,850
we believe was a facelift
involved, or eye lift or

1571
01:37:59,850 --> 01:38:04,590
something that needed to get her
out of the public eye? Now, the

1572
01:38:04,590 --> 01:38:08,760
claim is that she conked herself
out and she was down for six

1573
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:09,720
months recovering.

1574
01:38:10,890 --> 01:38:13,410
This is ridiculous. But we do
have this

1575
01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:16,110
we do have this clip. And I did
take the takeaway get the Chris

1576
01:38:16,110 --> 01:38:18,720
Matthews takeaway from that long
clip that I think would be a

1577
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:19,410
good evergreen.

1578
01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:23,100
I'm gonna prove myself right.
And she did a damage and she did

1579
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:23,250
it.

1580
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,380
She did it dammit. Yes. Well,

1581
01:38:28,769 --> 01:38:31,679
I think that beggar, by the way,
is what you call that type of

1582
01:38:31,679 --> 01:38:34,139
person? Well, the narrative

1583
01:38:34,140 --> 01:38:41,400
has has, has really changed in
an interesting way. There was no

1584
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:47,430
doubt that after the initial
review panel or whatever it's

1585
01:38:47,430 --> 01:38:51,810
called that we know for sure,
and everyone has copped to this.

1586
01:38:52,140 --> 01:38:55,800
That what happened in Benghazi
with Ambassador Stevens that it

1587
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,130
was one thing we all know for
sure. It was it was not caused

1588
01:38:59,130 --> 01:39:07,410
by the Innocence of Muslims
video on YouTube. That everyone

1589
01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:10,620
agreed on this unilaterally. Am
I crazy? I

1590
01:39:10,620 --> 01:39:11,970
think Benghazi Benghazi.

1591
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:16,290
I mean, every everyone said this
right? And was like, Okay, well,

1592
01:39:16,290 --> 01:39:19,890
but he said the video was
bullcrap. And watch the video

1593
01:39:19,890 --> 01:39:22,230
and it wasn't causing any
problems anywhere, right?

1594
01:39:22,710 --> 01:39:28,230
Except to Eleanor Clift. Eleanor
who was my my friend from the

1595
01:39:28,260 --> 01:39:33,300
McLaughlin group group. As you
know, she is the one that likes

1596
01:39:33,300 --> 01:39:37,050
to say that he's a
constitutional more Yeah. About

1597
01:39:37,050 --> 01:39:41,340
her president. And Benghazi came
up here.

1598
01:39:41,490 --> 01:39:45,600
What is going what happened? The
organisation has investigated

1599
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:49,140
this to death. This animates the
right wing of the Republican

1600
01:39:49,140 --> 01:39:51,690
Party and I would like to point
out that Ambassador Stevens was

1601
01:39:51,690 --> 01:39:55,770
not murdered. He died of smoke
inhalation in the safe room in

1602
01:39:58,380 --> 01:39:59,010
combat.

1603
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,690
that I think that is no I think
I've heard a drastically

1604
01:40:03,690 --> 01:40:06,810
different story now people are
also in the know about that so I

1605
01:40:06,810 --> 01:40:09,720
don't think I don't think it was
Turkey oh no he was murdered

1606
01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:15,720
opportunistic terrorist attack
that opportunistic was rollout

1607
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:21,330
of that video the video where he
was the video where there were

1608
01:40:21,330 --> 01:40:27,840
demonstrations across the GFI
there was no video delighted to

1609
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:32,640
it at all. Opportunistic and
it's still a CIA and if you're

1610
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,610
going to put people on trial we
should put David Petraeus on

1611
01:40:35,610 --> 01:40:38,010
trial bring Hillary Clinton
testified

1612
01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:45,810
there you go that's what it's
all about. So she is so either

1613
01:40:46,020 --> 01:40:50,070
dense or dumb or out of out of
the out of the loop that

1614
01:40:50,070 --> 01:40:53,250
she This is the common kind of
weirdness that's going on where

1615
01:40:53,250 --> 01:40:58,110
people were some meme is created
the bull crap, like like our

1616
01:40:58,110 --> 01:41:03,570
friend, or for 2033 friend
Spencer says, The bull crap meme

1617
01:41:03,570 --> 01:41:06,330
that's created somewhere by the
State Department or whoever and

1618
01:41:06,330 --> 01:41:08,970
it stays in play. I have a clip.

1619
01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:14,400
I have a follow on to this.
Okay. Because it's one thing for

1620
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:19,410
Eleanor Clift to to somehow get
some memo and say, Oh, no, we

1621
01:41:19,410 --> 01:41:24,330
know that he died of smoke
inhalation which we know he died

1622
01:41:24,330 --> 01:41:29,040
in a horrific way. Yeah, with
you know, raped with broom

1623
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:32,190
handles and all kinds of
horrible things happened. This

1624
01:41:32,190 --> 01:41:37,350
is this is real fact. Not smoke
inhalation the CIO. And by the

1625
01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:40,530
way, could she say CIA one more
time to make sure that David

1626
01:41:40,530 --> 01:41:44,430
Petraeus and everyone but
Hillary is implicated in this.

1627
01:41:44,940 --> 01:41:49,020
And I think we should reiterate
our theory that this was a

1628
01:41:49,020 --> 01:41:53,910
botched operation. It was meant
to be an October surprise. And

1629
01:41:53,910 --> 01:41:57,330
the idea was to and we believe
the ambassador was in on it. He

1630
01:41:57,330 --> 01:42:00,600
was meant to be kidnapped. And
the positive kidnapping it was

1631
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:05,250
botched kidnapping attempt.
Yeah. For an October surprise

1632
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:05,610
event,

1633
01:42:05,700 --> 01:42:08,760
the alleged prom was there were
simultaneous operations going

1634
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:09,180
cross?

1635
01:42:09,330 --> 01:42:15,360
Yes. And were in that regard.
The CIA probably is responsible

1636
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,960
because they were running their
guns which are being run up to

1637
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:23,220
Libya. I'm sorry, from Libya to
Syria. And that's where things

1638
01:42:23,220 --> 01:42:26,580
crossed. So for Eleanor to say
this who's all in with Hillary

1639
01:42:26,580 --> 01:42:30,720
and this is an Obama bot and
just a nut job. She was kind of

1640
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:34,200
cute back in the day though. I
saw her press photo. She man's

1641
01:42:35,850 --> 01:42:36,750
got a little harsh there

1642
01:42:36,750 --> 01:42:39,810
shows you that anyone can be
fooled as right a young age but

1643
01:42:39,810 --> 01:42:41,160
built base. But when

1644
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:44,760
Bill Maher started saying the
same thing, then you know that

1645
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,020
there's a memo that went out.

1646
01:42:46,770 --> 01:42:47,790
Oh, you got

1647
01:42:49,530 --> 01:42:52,920
it. This is like a bad case of
the shingles. I I thought it was

1648
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,980
gone. And it came back. And I
mentioned again. I mean,

1649
01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:00,570
somehow, the roof doesn't matter
how many times they turn that a

1650
01:43:00,570 --> 01:43:03,900
bullet always comes up.
Benghazi,

1651
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:08,670
by the way on this show, they've
got Berra tune day, isn't it as

1652
01:43:08,670 --> 01:43:10,440
isn't on twit from time to time,
this guy,

1653
01:43:10,710 --> 01:43:14,340
Barrett tune day? Yeah. What's
he doing on there?

1654
01:43:14,370 --> 01:43:17,850
He Well, he's a comedian, I
believe I know. But he's pretty

1655
01:43:17,850 --> 01:43:19,980
good, although he's an Obama
bot.

1656
01:43:20,219 --> 01:43:25,169
And worse such tests for America
because like sane people, I

1657
01:43:25,169 --> 01:43:28,679
think, look at it and see
nothing. And they see it and see

1658
01:43:28,679 --> 01:43:32,339
the greatest crime in the
history of men, about 44% of

1659
01:43:32,339 --> 01:43:34,979
Republicans and false think
Benghazi is the worst scandal in

1660
01:43:34,979 --> 01:43:38,579
American history. I think it's
not a scandal. And I can tell

1661
01:43:38,579 --> 01:43:41,819
why. Because in 2012, the
scandal was about Obama because

1662
01:43:41,819 --> 01:43:46,229
he was running. And now somehow
the scandals about a Hillary is

1663
01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:46,949
about to run.

1664
01:43:47,130 --> 01:43:48,990
That might be from Republicans
point of view. But

1665
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:52,380
this is very interesting. That
that more of now, of course,

1666
01:43:52,380 --> 01:43:56,670
Maher would do this because he
is a huge contributor to the

1667
01:43:56,670 --> 01:43:57,660
Democratic Party.

1668
01:43:58,260 --> 01:44:01,620
You gave a million bucks to the
party or to the

1669
01:44:01,620 --> 01:44:06,360
super PAC that guess helps out
the party. But I didn't Well,

1670
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,030
anyway, let's lit and now this
the guy from Reason magazine or

1671
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:11,010
something, whatever it is
Republic, I don't know what

1672
01:44:11,190 --> 01:44:13,350
right. Would they got token
right wing guy from

1673
01:44:13,350 --> 01:44:16,050
my point of view, there is a
scandal here just because John

1674
01:44:16,050 --> 01:44:18,930
Boehner thinks that the scandal
doesn't mean that it's not he's

1675
01:44:18,930 --> 01:44:22,440
talking about it is it is this.
The administration, the White

1676
01:44:22,440 --> 01:44:25,410
House and the State Department
could have said on September

1677
01:44:25,410 --> 01:44:29,430
11 12 1314 Hey, look, fog of
war. Terrible thing happened. We

1678
01:44:29,430 --> 01:44:32,520
don't know really what happened?
Give us a few days. They didn't.

1679
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:36,390
Instead, they said at the
moment, we condemn religious

1680
01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:41,490
incitement. They blamed a video
by a Cerritos nutbag for this

1681
01:44:41,490 --> 01:44:43,650
and that's what it was. That's
not what

1682
01:44:45,150 --> 01:44:47,580
this is Bill Maher saying that's
what it was what it was,

1683
01:44:47,610 --> 01:44:50,520
you burned a Qur'an right now,
if you had the courage of your

1684
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:54,120
convictions to burn a Qur'an on
this desk right now, would you

1685
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:57,000
be guilty of inciting violence
that happened somewhere else?

1686
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:57,330
Right, so

1687
01:44:57,420 --> 01:44:59,820
there's three or four more
minutes of this and but yeah, we

1688
01:44:59,820 --> 01:45:02,070
don't To hear we don't need to
hear but they just want you to

1689
01:45:02,070 --> 01:45:04,500
hear that Bill Maher is like no,
it was the video.

1690
01:45:05,340 --> 01:45:09,180
Wow, that's been so debunked.
And why didn't the right wing

1691
01:45:09,180 --> 01:45:13,590
guy bring up the stand down
orders? Oh, you're asking for

1692
01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:18,240
assistance? That's the scandal.
Oh, no. Because the because it

1693
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:19,710
actually brings up the real good
cuz

1694
01:45:20,340 --> 01:45:22,590
none of that. None of that.
Yeah, of course it would trace

1695
01:45:22,590 --> 01:45:24,390
back. This is all this theatre.

1696
01:45:25,770 --> 01:45:30,240
Yeah, well, that's TV. Well, I
was more stunned by this,

1697
01:45:30,270 --> 01:45:33,030
actually, because this is at a
high level, though. That's just

1698
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:37,380
a bunch of low end losers. This
is the French foreign minister,

1699
01:45:37,710 --> 01:45:40,710
reiterating what's already been
deep now. If anything has been

1700
01:45:40,710 --> 01:45:45,660
debunked, it's it's it's the gas
gassing of civilians by the

1701
01:45:45,660 --> 01:45:49,560
Syrian army that has been proven
that the gas canisters weren't

1702
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:53,490
there were kind of handmade.
They were fired from to close,

1703
01:45:53,790 --> 01:45:56,070
because you couldn't get the gas
to you know, remember the

1704
01:45:56,070 --> 01:45:58,950
gassing that took place a year
ago? Yeah. And it was too close.

1705
01:45:58,950 --> 01:46:02,910
And so they so so there's been
two or three studies, Seymour

1706
01:46:02,910 --> 01:46:05,700
Hersh came out with a long
report showing that these were

1707
01:46:05,700 --> 01:46:10,260
the rebels firing on the cities
to kill the Syrian soldiers. It

1708
01:46:10,260 --> 01:46:14,040
was them who set off the gas.
Yeah, it's Seymour

1709
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,940
Hersh is is not like to some
hack. You know, he's award

1710
01:46:17,940 --> 01:46:21,840
winning investigative journalist
and very well respected and has

1711
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:26,040
been completely stifled with his
take and stance on this

1712
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:27,600
particular instance.

1713
01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:32,220
But most people have debunked
the idea that the Syrian

1714
01:46:32,250 --> 01:46:36,360
government was gassing the
Syrian people for their own

1715
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:39,630
people for some unknown reason.
And then there was a secondary

1716
01:46:39,630 --> 01:46:42,990
thing where some get people were
aghast with chlorine, which they

1717
01:46:42,990 --> 01:46:46,020
don't even have a stockpile of.
So that wasn't the government

1718
01:46:46,020 --> 01:46:50,730
either. But meanwhile, the
French Foreign Minister decides

1719
01:46:50,730 --> 01:46:53,610
to backtrack on the whole thing
and listen to him. And his

1720
01:46:53,610 --> 01:46:56,670
diplomacy falters, the war
continues in Syria, and so does

1721
01:46:56,670 --> 01:46:59,130
the use of chemical weapons.
That's according to the French

1722
01:46:59,130 --> 01:47:01,770
foreign minister, little half
abuse currently in the United

1723
01:47:01,770 --> 01:47:05,100
States to meet his counterpart
John Kerry. He says France has

1724
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:07,680
reliable information that
chemical agents were used by the

1725
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:12,060
regime on 14 separate occasions
since last October, though half

1726
01:47:12,060 --> 01:47:15,060
of us also expressing regret
yesterday that the US didn't

1727
01:47:15,060 --> 01:47:18,150
strike Syria last year when the
news first broke have a chemical

1728
01:47:18,150 --> 01:47:19,350
attack near Damascus

1729
01:47:22,410 --> 01:47:25,920
said that we can rewrite
history. A few months ago, if

1730
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:29,070
you recall events, there was a
massive use of chemical weapons

1731
01:47:29,070 --> 01:47:31,590
I'm sure you know what it was it
was it was ready to act.

1732
01:47:31,590 --> 01:47:34,110
However, that was not possible
as the Americans and British

1733
01:47:34,110 --> 01:47:37,560
were not able to do so. Acting
would have changed a lot of

1734
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:41,550
things. Firstly, concerning
Syria itself. And also in a

1735
01:47:41,550 --> 01:47:44,730
certain way, in the way Russians
deal with a certain number of

1736
01:47:44,730 --> 01:47:47,910
questions, but we are not going
to rewrite history.

1737
01:47:51,480 --> 01:47:56,490
So the French are shocked that
this scheme is bullcrap scheme,

1738
01:47:56,490 --> 01:47:57,900
or we're gonna bomb them.

1739
01:47:58,110 --> 01:47:59,850
If you recall, ya know that we
put,

1740
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,410
oh, Obama pulled back at the
last minute, after promising

1741
01:48:04,410 --> 01:48:07,080
there was a line we're going to
red line, nobody can cross and

1742
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,270
all the rest of it, he backed
off because Congress wasn't

1743
01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:12,000
going to approve it. And he
actually threw it to Congress

1744
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,430
knowing they wouldn't approve
it, right. And now the French

1745
01:48:14,430 --> 01:48:18,000
are all bent out of shape for
some reason, which I'm assuming

1746
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,490
has to do with either pipelines
or oil. And what did what did

1747
01:48:20,490 --> 01:48:23,490
the French have to do with
Syria. And now they're also

1748
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,820
irked with with the Russians for
kind of saving the day with

1749
01:48:26,820 --> 01:48:30,180
their idea to, to, you know,
pick up all the gas canisters

1750
01:48:30,180 --> 01:48:33,600
and ship them off somewhere. I
just found that to be very

1751
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,480
peculiar rewriting history,
which says you can't do what she

1752
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:41,160
did. Very strange, very much
like the lesser one with Bill

1753
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:42,930
Maher and the bony video,

1754
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:46,740
but the French. The French guys
said some other weird things. I

1755
01:48:46,740 --> 01:48:52,920
don't know if you caught this.
regarding climate change, which

1756
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:57,480
he coins, something different.
And he puts a timeline on it

1757
01:48:57,510 --> 01:49:03,630
very important issues, issue of
climate change, climate chaos,

1758
01:49:03,630 --> 01:49:07,860
and we have said that you had
500 days to avoid your gun and

1759
01:49:07,860 --> 01:49:11,670
cows and I know that President
Obama and John Kerry himself

1760
01:49:12,780 --> 01:49:21,570
committed on this subject, and
I'm sure that there was a lot of

1761
01:49:21,570 --> 01:49:26,970
other friends we should be able
to reach success in this very

1762
01:49:27,420 --> 01:49:28,410
important matter.

1763
01:49:28,590 --> 01:49:40,140
So 500 days to avoid climate
chaos. So I like climate chaos.

1764
01:49:40,230 --> 01:49:42,690
I like climate chaos to think
that's very good, but

1765
01:49:42,690 --> 01:49:48,360
we have 500 days only, which was
so what is that? That's three

1766
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:51,810
that's a year and a half. 500
days. Yeah. So where does that

1767
01:49:51,810 --> 01:49:55,320
put us does that does that put
Kerry out of office that put

1768
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:58,140
Obama out of office I thought he
had two years it?

1769
01:49:58,380 --> 01:50:02,190
Well he gets going to be Is it a
European thing? Who

1770
01:50:02,190 --> 01:50:06,780
has 500 days left? That's the
question Who or what is the 500?

1771
01:50:07,590 --> 01:50:09,420
Is that the EU Parliament maybe?

1772
01:50:09,900 --> 01:50:12,420
Well, they're having elections
shortly, but I don't know what

1773
01:50:12,420 --> 01:50:13,980
happens in 500 days.

1774
01:50:14,070 --> 01:50:16,860
Well, someone out there who's
listening will be worried about

1775
01:50:16,890 --> 01:50:17,460
this guy.

1776
01:50:19,410 --> 01:50:23,340
Talking about climate chaos.
I've heard some extreme examples

1777
01:50:23,340 --> 01:50:27,150
of horrible things that can
happen. You have to listen to

1778
01:50:27,150 --> 01:50:31,500
KTVU and what they say. Okay.

1779
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:35,130
And alarming government report
will be formally released this

1780
01:50:35,130 --> 01:50:39,210
week says extreme weather events
may become more common. No

1781
01:50:39,210 --> 01:50:42,270
National Climate Assessment
concluded the global climate

1782
01:50:42,270 --> 01:50:45,540
change is real and already
happening happening human

1783
01:50:45,540 --> 01:50:48,210
activity, most notably the
burning of fossil fuels with

1784
01:50:48,210 --> 01:50:51,540
humans, temperatures to rise,
rising, emissions are not

1785
01:50:51,540 --> 01:50:54,510
reduced. Experts believe
temperatures could rise by as

1786
01:50:54,510 --> 01:51:00,000
much as 10 to 2100 degrees in
California drought conditions

1787
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,420
could worsen leading to more
wildfires. I'm sorry, water

1788
01:51:03,420 --> 01:51:03,960
resources

1789
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:07,290
becoming more scarce. 2100
degrees a

1790
01:51:07,290 --> 01:51:08,370
yes. Just above

1791
01:51:08,370 --> 01:51:10,020
the boiling point of aluminium.

1792
01:51:11,250 --> 01:51:15,870
Well, yeah, we'd be dying then
for sure. There was a different

1793
01:51:15,870 --> 01:51:17,010
report, which NASA

1794
01:51:17,460 --> 01:51:21,240
by the way, this is the station
that gave you some thing wrong.

1795
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:25,440
Yeah, we too low. Yeah,

1796
01:51:25,500 --> 01:51:26,280
exactly.

1797
01:51:27,750 --> 01:51:35,010
Boom, crash out. Oh, there was a
report a new report, which NASA

1798
01:51:35,010 --> 01:51:38,370
participated in and was touted
as a NASA report, although NASA

1799
01:51:38,370 --> 01:51:42,150
has backtracked immediately
saying, Whoa, whoa, whoa, you

1800
01:51:42,150 --> 01:51:45,780
know, we we had one guy like an
intern working on it. And we,

1801
01:51:45,780 --> 01:51:49,500
you know, it wasn't really, you
know, it wasn't sanctioned. And

1802
01:51:49,710 --> 01:51:54,090
then this is regarding the
Antarctic ice sheet, which is

1803
01:51:54,210 --> 01:51:56,130
melting. But it's not just melt.
There was

1804
01:51:56,130 --> 01:51:59,400
a startling new report today
issued about the state of the

1805
01:51:59,490 --> 01:52:03,060
huge Antarctic ice sheet.
According to scientists

1806
01:52:03,060 --> 01:52:06,270
monitoring the area, the ice is
now melting in a way that is

1807
01:52:06,480 --> 01:52:07,500
unstoppable,

1808
01:52:07,530 --> 01:52:11,610
unstoppable, unstoppable. I tell
you,

1809
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:13,890
Science and Technology
correspondent Jacob Ward joins

1810
01:52:13,890 --> 01:52:17,250
us from San Francisco with her
right report scientists at NASA

1811
01:52:17,250 --> 01:52:18,870
and UC Irvine and JPL what

1812
01:52:18,900 --> 01:52:22,380
UC Irvine and NASA. It's a very
serious report. This is the real

1813
01:52:22,380 --> 01:52:22,710
deal

1814
01:52:22,740 --> 01:52:25,260
this particular ice sheet and
explain why it's so important.

1815
01:52:25,770 --> 01:52:28,860
Well, David, the West Antarctic
Ice Sheet is a massive

1816
01:52:28,860 --> 01:52:31,770
collection of glaciers and other
ice formations. And the

1817
01:52:31,770 --> 01:52:34,950
particular section that this
report deals with is 255 square

1818
01:52:34,950 --> 01:52:37,830
miles, that's about twice the
size of Philadelphia. The reason

1819
01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:42,090
it's so important is that inside
that object is enough water if

1820
01:52:42,090 --> 01:52:46,500
it were to all melt to raise
global sea levels by four feet.

1821
01:52:46,650 --> 01:52:49,560
And as you mentioned, this
report has basically shown that

1822
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:54,870
that this is melting far faster,
and in a pretty unstoppable way.

1823
01:52:54,870 --> 01:52:56,370
There's really no turning it
back.

1824
01:52:56,670 --> 01:53:00,720
So Janka no turning back why
that is so bad. And what's the

1825
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:03,120
timeframe that the scientists
are talking about? All right,

1826
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,480
so this report, of course, is
extremely frightening. And

1827
01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:09,990
there's no turning back four
feet of water, we will all be be

1828
01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:13,350
drowning what the timeframe is,
of course, what is always,

1829
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:14,850
always the most frightening.

1830
01:53:15,150 --> 01:53:18,810
Well, the reason it is so bad is
that with a sort of an

1831
01:53:18,810 --> 01:53:21,930
unstoppable flow like this, it's
really just a matter of physics

1832
01:53:21,930 --> 01:53:24,840
holding it back, the whole thing
basically sits on a in a big

1833
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:28,740
sort of depression bowl. And so
it's just slowly falling water

1834
01:53:28,830 --> 01:53:32,460
and ocean of water is getting
between it and the rock that it

1835
01:53:32,460 --> 01:53:35,940
sits on. So there's just nothing
to stop it. It's really the

1836
01:53:35,940 --> 01:53:40,050
greatest fear scientists have
for a rapid sea level rise now,

1837
01:53:40,140 --> 01:53:44,370
in sort of glacial terms rapid
in this case means between

1838
01:53:44,370 --> 01:53:46,200
205 100 years from now.

1839
01:53:48,930 --> 01:53:56,700
205 100 years from now, give or
take 300 years. This this is so

1840
01:53:56,730 --> 01:54:03,090
Michael Crighton state of fear.
And I am telling you some

1841
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:09,360
douchebag crazy f is going to
dynamite some big piece of ice

1842
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:15,570
somewhere just to prove a point.
I can feel it. I whenever I hear

1843
01:54:15,570 --> 01:54:17,820
these reports, that's all that
comes into my mind.

1844
01:54:19,020 --> 01:54:23,100
Well, we're since we're on this
topic. You know, everybody's

1845
01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:26,400
complicit in this. I mean that
news media is the worst. I mean,

1846
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:30,570
besides the 2100 degree increase
in temperature, which he can't

1847
01:54:30,570 --> 01:54:33,150
stop himself from saying even
though it's on the prompter, and

1848
01:54:33,150 --> 01:54:39,600
it actually meant by the year
2021 200. Yeah. So Marco Rubio

1849
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,660
was talking to the national
press corps at the National

1850
01:54:42,660 --> 01:54:47,310
Press Club in Washington DC. And
he's talking about his speech

1851
01:54:47,310 --> 01:54:55,530
was about future retirement
systems of Social Security and

1852
01:54:55,530 --> 01:54:57,780
what we're going to do about it
and all the rest of that's what

1853
01:54:57,780 --> 01:55:02,250
he says it was a policy speech.
So the question is start to come

1854
01:55:02,250 --> 01:55:07,200
in after his talks and that's, I
would like to play three this

1855
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:08,910
went on for a while, but I'm
going to play three of the

1856
01:55:08,910 --> 01:55:12,780
questions start with Rubio's
zero. And remember that he was

1857
01:55:12,780 --> 01:55:14,100
talking about retirement.

1858
01:55:14,460 --> 01:55:18,030
Earlier this week, you rejected
scientists assertions, that

1859
01:55:18,030 --> 01:55:21,750
human activity is causing
climate change, and that actions

1860
01:55:21,750 --> 01:55:26,310
taken to curtail such activity
will destroy our economy. How

1861
01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:28,710
would you propose that the
country whether any dramatic

1862
01:55:28,710 --> 01:55:32,730
shifts in climate and the
impacts such such shifts could

1863
01:55:32,730 --> 01:55:34,500
have and quality of life?

1864
01:55:35,700 --> 01:55:38,730
Okay, now he I do have his
answer, which is a minute we

1865
01:55:38,730 --> 01:55:41,820
don't have to play it doing a
skip it, but I keeping this

1866
01:55:41,820 --> 01:55:45,990
answer around because this will
be the Litany answer by the

1867
01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:50,400
Republicans who are against the
some of this climate change

1868
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:52,950
hysteria. So So he's talking
about retirement. So they asked

1869
01:55:52,950 --> 01:55:56,250
him that course. That's what the
press corps does. He add it

1870
01:55:56,250 --> 01:56:01,020
gives a long answer. That's very
adequate, saying he climate is

1871
01:56:01,020 --> 01:56:04,410
changing all the time, and blah,
blah, blah. So okay, fine.

1872
01:56:04,500 --> 01:56:06,570
Question number two, Rubio two,

1873
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:10,950
what information reports,
studies or otherwise, are you

1874
01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:14,910
relying on to inform and reach
your conclusion that human

1875
01:56:14,910 --> 01:56:19,020
activity is not to blame for
climate change? Okay. Well,

1876
01:56:19,020 --> 01:56:20,820
yeah, I mean, I have very good
question.

1877
01:56:21,809 --> 01:56:26,189
Okay, so he's there to talk
about retirement systems. So

1878
01:56:26,189 --> 01:56:29,339
they asked him the same question
twice in a row. And she answers

1879
01:56:29,339 --> 01:56:33,089
by the way, again, with another
one long minute. So okay, this.

1880
01:56:33,479 --> 01:56:34,979
here's question number three.

1881
01:56:35,009 --> 01:56:39,089
The US Geological Survey has
warned that sea levels could

1882
01:56:39,089 --> 01:56:45,419
rise by two feet by 2060
imperilling Florida's coastline,

1883
01:56:45,779 --> 01:56:49,049
how should the United States
prepare itself and its citizens

1884
01:56:49,259 --> 01:56:52,889
to deal with rising sea levels
and the catastrophic flooding

1885
01:56:53,009 --> 01:56:55,799
that is likely to follow by
retiring I pointed out

1886
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:02,760
it's like, this is there's a
huge preoccupation. This is,

1887
01:57:03,450 --> 01:57:07,170
this is like a hysteria. This is
mass hysteria. I've never seen

1888
01:57:07,170 --> 01:57:09,630
anything like it, especially
with the news media. You got to

1889
01:57:09,630 --> 01:57:12,690
narrate the guy up there. He's
got a million questions he could

1890
01:57:13,470 --> 01:57:16,200
pull from the pile, but every
question seems to be about

1891
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:20,520
climate change. Right. Well,
that will that that is find the

1892
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:21,060
whole thing to

1893
01:57:21,060 --> 01:57:24,180
be that that is how that is
before the you know, we have

1894
01:57:24,180 --> 01:57:27,720
elections in Gitmo nation
proper, and we have to go after

1895
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:32,130
the Republican Party and make
them look like crazy religious

1896
01:57:32,130 --> 01:57:38,310
nut jobs. So you know, you you
attack them on, ugh, you know, I

1897
01:57:38,310 --> 01:57:43,980
pretty convinced that most
people are in on climate change.

1898
01:57:44,010 --> 01:57:47,580
I don't think that they are in
on the dire consequences that

1899
01:57:47,580 --> 01:57:53,040
are being fed to them. And
that's, that's because of the

1900
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:57,240
overkill probably. And and you
know, and then it's way too dark

1901
01:57:57,240 --> 01:58:03,510
to 200, maybe 500 years. That
no, that doesn't scare me.

1902
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:07,080
I can't predict tomorrow's
weather. This seems highly

1903
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:07,710
unlikely.

1904
01:58:07,740 --> 01:58:12,960
Oh, we don't have to rehash that
debate. But this is this is all

1905
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:15,480
politicised. It's all
politicised. That's the only

1906
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:19,890
reason for it. I before we go to
our break, John, today is a

1907
01:58:19,890 --> 01:58:26,520
pretty important day. Although
not really, as the FCC has

1908
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:32,310
released their rulemaking,
seeking public comment on how to

1909
01:58:32,310 --> 01:58:35,640
best protect and promote and
quote open Internet. This is the

1910
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:38,970
new mean, by the way, we went
from net neutrality to open

1911
01:58:38,970 --> 01:58:44,400
Internet, which, what does that
mean, open Internet? This is

1912
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:49,140
complete. This is a complete
change in narrative. And there's

1913
01:58:49,140 --> 01:58:51,540
a couple of things going on. As
you know, this is this is one of

1914
01:58:51,540 --> 01:58:55,860
my my main pet peeves. And I had
a conversation again this

1915
01:58:55,860 --> 01:58:59,460
evening at the opening with
people who are well intended,

1916
01:58:59,490 --> 01:59:03,060
you know, this girl member of
the Pirate Party, you know,

1917
01:59:03,060 --> 01:59:08,040
she's a, she's very active
politically. And, and I said,

1918
01:59:08,130 --> 01:59:10,770
you know, and somehow it came
down to net neutrality, or

1919
01:59:10,770 --> 01:59:12,630
though we're talking about the
show, and she says, You know,

1920
01:59:12,630 --> 01:59:14,700
I've heard a lot about your
show, and I don't listen to it.

1921
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:16,950
I said, Well, you know, you'll
hear about net neutrality and

1922
01:59:16,950 --> 01:59:20,490
how we think it is the stupidest
thing people are campaigning for

1923
01:59:20,700 --> 01:59:24,150
me, if you want to see someone's
someone, just their jaw dropped

1924
01:59:24,150 --> 01:59:28,170
to the floor, when they when
they're kind of all in on what

1925
01:59:28,170 --> 01:59:30,450
you're saying. But then you
throw out you know, net

1926
01:59:30,450 --> 01:59:33,210
neutrality is the only thing
that's going to achieve is

1927
01:59:33,210 --> 01:59:35,940
exactly what the broadband
providers want. And that is

1928
01:59:35,940 --> 01:59:40,320
metered billing. They're like,
what? No, no, this is to protect

1929
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:44,460
the internet. And they can't
explain what it is other than,

1930
01:59:44,460 --> 01:59:47,370
you know, outcome, the analogies
of the fast lane and which is

1931
01:59:47,370 --> 01:59:50,250
just not a level that best leads
not an appropriate technical

1932
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:53,490
response. Now, there's a couple
things I want to do. So first, I

1933
01:59:53,490 --> 01:59:56,550
have in front of me, the
proposed rulemaking understand

1934
01:59:56,550 --> 01:59:59,880
that all of these groups all of
these nonprofit groups, these

1935
01:59:59,880 --> 02:00:03,450
look Two groups who have
$200,000 being given to them, a

1936
02:00:03,450 --> 02:00:06,330
lot of them indirectly through
Open Society Institute, which is

1937
02:00:06,330 --> 02:00:11,010
Soros. And I'm not quite sure
you know how he ties into it.

1938
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:13,920
But they're all you know, asking
for donations, and I'm getting

1939
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:16,710
email after email, and we're
doing great and the fight is on,

1940
02:00:16,860 --> 02:00:20,250
but the fight, you know, this 60
days comment period, then we

1941
02:00:20,250 --> 02:00:23,520
have another 60 days to come
back. So it's four months before

1942
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:26,970
we even get close to any final
rulemaking. So we're all you

1943
02:00:26,970 --> 02:00:30,810
know, everyone's really early
with all the yelling here. But

1944
02:00:30,810 --> 02:00:35,040
the main thing that it's coming
down to is title two of the

1945
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:40,560
Telecommunications Act, which
was revised in 1996. And

1946
02:00:41,100 --> 02:00:45,960
specifically, section 706. And
the idea is to turn if this is

1947
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:48,450
what people think is the right
thing to do is to have the

1948
02:00:48,450 --> 02:00:50,850
government come in, in the
United States that is, and

1949
02:00:50,850 --> 02:00:55,890
regulate the internet, and make
it so that the internet is a

1950
02:00:56,190 --> 02:01:00,750
telecommunication service, very
much like the telephone. Now,

1951
02:01:00,750 --> 02:01:04,380
there's a couple of things that
people are really the when it

1952
02:01:04,380 --> 02:01:07,200
comes down to the technological
thinking about it, they are

1953
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:12,210
very, very, very wrong,
particularly when it being

1954
02:01:12,210 --> 02:01:15,600
discussed as a utility. Now,
this is a there was a video

1955
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:19,080
going around that I wanted to
play a little piece from this is

1956
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:23,040
from internet citizens, defend
net neutrality. Now there's a

1957
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:27,750
lot of these whenever it comes
to explaining how this works,

1958
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:31,620
someone puts a video together
with a drawing a fast drawing

1959
02:01:31,620 --> 02:01:34,920
and stick figures and a
voiceover and a lot of Yeah,

1960
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:38,580
right. Understand, don't you
think Crazy, right? But and it's

1961
02:01:38,580 --> 02:01:42,060
just wrong. The things that are
being said are wrong, Hello,

1962
02:01:42,090 --> 02:01:44,970
internet, it was a Hello
internet, when it starts like

1963
02:01:44,970 --> 02:01:48,930
that I cringe. I cringe when I
hear this during

1964
02:01:48,930 --> 02:01:51,210
your internetting session.
Perhaps watching this video with

1965
02:01:51,210 --> 02:01:53,880
lots of tabs open in the
background full of interesting

1966
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:56,730
things to check out the internet
is amazing. And that's because

1967
02:01:56,730 --> 02:01:59,040
of the rules which govern how it
works, and

1968
02:01:59,070 --> 02:02:02,730
what rules to already the
talking about the rules that

1969
02:02:02,730 --> 02:02:06,180
govern how it works, that there
is no governing in that regard.

1970
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:10,380
So boring. This video is giving
you the impression rules, there

1971
02:02:10,380 --> 02:02:14,340
are rules, there are rules and
governance as to how the

1972
02:02:14,340 --> 02:02:17,550
internet works. No, no, go
ahead, please.

1973
02:02:17,670 --> 02:02:21,300
I was going to interrupt because
right now the open internet, if

1974
02:02:21,300 --> 02:02:24,060
you look it up, the FCC has a
page on this. And but and by the

1975
02:02:24,060 --> 02:02:27,450
way, my thinking is a little
different than yours about what

1976
02:02:27,450 --> 02:02:31,770
they're really after. In terms
of turning into a

1977
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:38,040
telecommunications regulation.
Like the phone, I'm thinking

1978
02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:41,070
they're trying to regulate like
television, because I know

1979
02:02:41,070 --> 02:02:45,060
they've been trying to do this
with cable TV forever. The FCC

1980
02:02:45,060 --> 02:02:49,350
wants to regulate the internet,
like they regulate television.

1981
02:02:49,350 --> 02:02:52,500
In my opinion. That's what the
long the long game is. And let

1982
02:02:52,500 --> 02:02:55,290
me just play this because the
little key word is in here. This

1983
02:02:55,290 --> 02:02:58,320
is the first paragraph of open
Internet. If you go to

1984
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:02,460
fcc.gov/open, internet, the open
internet, quote unquote, as the

1985
02:03:02,460 --> 02:03:06,540
Internet as we know, it is open
because it uses free publicly

1986
02:03:06,540 --> 02:03:09,030
available standards that anyone
can access and build to. And it

1987
02:03:09,030 --> 02:03:12,180
treats all traffic that flows
across the network in roughly

1988
02:03:12,180 --> 02:03:15,570
the same way. The principle of
the open Internet is sometimes

1989
02:03:15,570 --> 02:03:19,260
referred to sometimes referred
to as net neutrality. Well hold

1990
02:03:19,260 --> 02:03:23,790
on a second. So you're telling
me that I can use my, my

1991
02:03:23,790 --> 02:03:30,210
Facebook Messenger to talk to my
Yahoo Messenger. Really? Or

1992
02:03:30,210 --> 02:03:31,200
that? That's what

1993
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:32,700
they're saying? Or no, I'm

1994
02:03:32,700 --> 02:03:36,240
just being devil's advocate, I'm
saying or that Facebook is an

1995
02:03:36,270 --> 02:03:39,960
open system? No, not not unless
you're registered. It's not

1996
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:42,030
open, it's closed. It's quite
the opposite.

1997
02:03:42,570 --> 02:03:45,690
Under this principle, and here's
the here's the kicker, under

1998
02:03:45,690 --> 02:03:49,680
this principle of net neutrality
or open area, whatever,

1999
02:03:49,830 --> 02:03:53,250
consumers can make their own
choices about what applications

2000
02:03:53,250 --> 02:03:58,110
and service to use and are free
to decide what lawful content

2001
02:03:58,140 --> 02:04:00,330
Yeah, access, create or

2002
02:04:01,710 --> 02:04:05,190
lawful cut. Well, we'll get to
that because I'm on we agree on

2003
02:04:05,190 --> 02:04:09,270
the legality of it, but they
specifically and I'm very

2004
02:04:09,270 --> 02:04:11,880
familiar with title two because
I've had a lot of time during

2005
02:04:11,940 --> 02:04:17,220
today to read it. The next title
in the act is about broadcasts

2006
02:04:17,220 --> 02:04:19,770
and but they're just not there
yet. So long game you may be

2007
02:04:19,770 --> 02:04:24,810
right. You may be right. But I
have and this I'll get to this

2008
02:04:24,810 --> 02:04:27,300
in a minute because I'm gonna
get give you information

2009
02:04:27,300 --> 02:04:31,080
straight from the horse's mouth.
But I really need to point out

2010
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:35,520
the bogus activity of these
cries for help. And and the so

2011
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:39,090
many, I mean, I watched you on
twit and um, you know, I know

2012
02:04:39,090 --> 02:04:41,970
you're staying away from you
know, it's like talking to a

2013
02:04:41,970 --> 02:04:44,760
brick wall. So I understand why
you're kind of backed off and

2014
02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:48,420
you still are getting a little
huffy. You know, for the same

2015
02:04:48,420 --> 02:04:50,850
people who said we never should
regulate the internet, but Oh,

2016
02:04:50,850 --> 02:04:53,490
please come in and regulate the
internet for all the wrong

2017
02:04:53,490 --> 02:04:56,550
reasons, which is basically I
want Netflix, that's the only

2018
02:04:56,550 --> 02:04:59,070
thing that is these people
providing alternative content

2019
02:04:59,070 --> 02:05:02,910
they're complaining about Their
Hollywood content it's pathetic

2020
02:05:03,990 --> 02:05:08,220
but listen to onic it's ironic
and pathetic just listen to the

2021
02:05:08,220 --> 02:05:12,000
explanation because this is very
typical of it when you when you

2022
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,880
hear it like oh yeah fuck man we
gotta get on this your protest

2023
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:19,020
yeah turn my Twitter icon black
man Slow down, slow down amazing

2024
02:05:19,020 --> 02:05:21,870
and that's because of the rules
which govern how it works and

2025
02:05:21,870 --> 02:05:25,260
important one of which is net
neutrality treating all data

2026
02:05:25,290 --> 02:05:29,310
equally okay so there is no rule
anywhere that is net neutrality

2027
02:05:29,310 --> 02:05:33,570
and all data by no means is
treated equally on networks.

2028
02:05:33,570 --> 02:05:33,780
Some

2029
02:05:33,780 --> 02:05:36,690
internet providers want to ditch
this rule to insert themselves

2030
02:05:36,690 --> 02:05:39,990
bitwixe to you and your data as
the most meddlesome middlemen in

2031
02:05:39,990 --> 02:05:41,040
human history. And

2032
02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:43,950
the word betwixt is just not
okay when you're explaining some

2033
02:05:43,950 --> 02:05:46,440
that something to somebody is
not okay to their benefit

2034
02:05:46,470 --> 02:05:50,310
and our detriment how well think
of the internet as a series of

2035
02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:53,370
pipes really our ocean and
continent spanning pipes through

2036
02:05:53,370 --> 02:05:54,480
which vast rivers

2037
02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:57,630
have not have trucks, not
trucks. No, you don't get

2038
02:05:57,630 --> 02:06:00,600
access to those they're very
expensive and you couldn't

2039
02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:01,560
handle it anyway,

2040
02:06:01,590 --> 02:06:05,730
the interesting Yes, it's very
expensive and I guess who pays

2041
02:06:05,730 --> 02:06:08,520
for that just magic this
expensive backbone,

2042
02:06:08,550 --> 02:06:11,010
but you do have a little pipe
that connects to the big pipes

2043
02:06:11,010 --> 02:06:14,190
through which you can pull down
and send out data you pay your

2044
02:06:14,190 --> 02:06:17,670
internet provider to maintain
this pipe. That's not entirely

2045
02:06:17,670 --> 02:06:20,220
true. But okay, I'll let you
slide on this rule means that

2046
02:06:20,220 --> 02:06:23,520
your rule cares not what flows
through it can use discussion

2047
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:26,370
forums, calls or games whatever
you're doing, you're using the

2048
02:06:26,370 --> 02:06:29,220
whole pipe to do it and no
website gets preference over

2049
02:06:29,220 --> 02:06:32,250
another everyone wants a faster
internet but that requires more

2050
02:06:32,250 --> 02:06:35,340
metaphorical pipe in the ground
the building of which is slow

2051
02:06:35,340 --> 02:06:38,070
and expensive. Now you may have
heard your internet provider on

2052
02:06:38,070 --> 02:06:40,680
the news talking about how this
rule prevents them from building

2053
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:42,600
fast lanes for special kinds of
data.

2054
02:06:42,630 --> 02:06:45,660
Now this is very interesting.
Now they've turned this around

2055
02:06:45,660 --> 02:06:50,910
to say that the ISPs are on the
news saying they want to build

2056
02:06:50,910 --> 02:06:57,030
fast lanes this is not true this
is not this is not what the how

2057
02:06:57,030 --> 02:07:01,560
that how the news came to be the
news was Netflix specifically

2058
02:07:02,070 --> 02:07:08,010
wanting specific type of access
into the pipes and specific type

2059
02:07:08,010 --> 02:07:12,780
of performance on these
networks. That's that was the

2060
02:07:12,780 --> 02:07:16,350
conversation that started at not
no ISP said oh, we have to

2061
02:07:16,350 --> 02:07:21,960
remove net neutrality. You show
me one ISP who has said we need

2062
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:25,440
to get rid of this so called net
neutrality, which is not a rule

2063
02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:30,240
does not exist as a written
governance piece of legislation.

2064
02:07:30,630 --> 02:07:33,660
But this is how it's being
portrayed and this is just

2065
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:35,490
realise

2066
02:07:35,519 --> 02:07:38,099
they want you to think they're
expanding your access to the

2067
02:07:38,099 --> 02:07:41,339
information superhighway but
removing this rule also gives

2068
02:07:41,339 --> 02:07:44,489
them the power to speed bump the
existing roads and charge more

2069
02:07:44,489 --> 02:07:47,789
to use the fast lane that was
really just what you had before

2070
02:07:47,819 --> 02:07:48,089
okay,

2071
02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:53,460
that just right really put in
speed bombs to charge you for

2072
02:07:53,460 --> 02:07:57,090
the fast lane which you had
before. This at this road

2073
02:07:57,090 --> 02:08:00,630
analogy has got to anyone who's
giving you this is does not know

2074
02:08:00,630 --> 02:08:01,830
what they're talking about power
to

2075
02:08:01,830 --> 02:08:04,770
preference. Some data over
others is the power to favour

2076
02:08:04,770 --> 02:08:08,790
one video site over another and
to limit a tiny part of the pipe

2077
02:08:08,790 --> 02:08:10,860
for the video you're watching
right

2078
02:08:11,429 --> 02:08:12,869
now. Now they're like cutting it
out.

2079
02:08:12,900 --> 02:08:16,020
You know this condescending
patronising style. Yeah, chat.

2080
02:08:16,050 --> 02:08:19,710
Yeah, is very much like MSNBC,
this guy sounds like Chris

2081
02:08:19,710 --> 02:08:20,640
Hayes. Well, it's

2082
02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:22,980
probably saying this, they're
probably the same people who are

2083
02:08:22,980 --> 02:08:26,850
behind it. And now they're
giving you a buffering thing. So

2084
02:08:27,210 --> 02:08:31,530
and look again, what's happening
here is you won't be able to get

2085
02:08:31,530 --> 02:08:35,940
the video you want. Really I've
been what happened to the

2086
02:08:35,940 --> 02:08:39,180
production and upstream and
sending things and sharing

2087
02:08:39,180 --> 02:08:42,780
information and know it they
will determine what video you

2088
02:08:42,780 --> 02:08:45,900
can watch. And this is
unfortunately what a lot of

2089
02:08:45,900 --> 02:08:48,840
people the majority people oh
really can watch that video.

2090
02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:49,230
Oh, the

2091
02:08:49,230 --> 02:08:51,750
video will buffer well, that
sucks now or

2092
02:08:51,750 --> 02:08:56,610
trying to. Anyway, we've been
through this before constraining

2093
02:08:56,610 --> 02:08:59,940
other companies in similar ways.
Take electricity, you pay for a

2094
02:08:59,940 --> 02:09:02,160
certain amount and when it
arrives in your house, you can

2095
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:02,610
do with it

2096
02:09:02,610 --> 02:09:07,980
what you wish. Okay. I love the
electricity analogy. The certain

2097
02:09:08,010 --> 02:09:13,590
amount you pay is not a fixed
amount per month. Okay? If you

2098
02:09:13,590 --> 02:09:16,560
leave the lights on your air
conditioner running 24 hours.

2099
02:09:17,220 --> 02:09:20,340
You're you're saying okay, at
the end of your sentence.

2100
02:09:20,370 --> 02:09:24,270
Thank you. Thank you. It's late.

2101
02:09:24,930 --> 02:09:25,860
Yeah, just mentioned.

2102
02:09:25,890 --> 02:09:26,850
Thank you. Thank you for
calling.

2103
02:09:28,650 --> 02:09:30,810
The faculty. Dang, yeah, it's
metered.

2104
02:09:30,870 --> 02:09:34,290
So it's metered. But that's not
where they're going to give us

2105
02:09:34,290 --> 02:09:35,400
an example the electricity

2106
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:37,590
company doesn't get to decide
that rather than build more

2107
02:09:37,590 --> 02:09:40,620
power plants, it's going to dim
your bulbs and then offer a

2108
02:09:40,620 --> 02:09:43,650
brighter bulbs monthly
subscription. And you hear this

2109
02:09:43,650 --> 02:09:47,460
example they are

2110
02:09:47,639 --> 02:09:49,319
Chris What is this? You're
playing?

2111
02:09:49,349 --> 02:09:53,969
It's one of these nonprofits
man. Yeah, I got tonnes of these

2112
02:09:53,969 --> 02:09:54,509
so it should go

2113
02:09:55,650 --> 02:09:58,230
this has to be the worst of
them. All right. Well, I'm gonna

2114
02:09:58,230 --> 02:10:01,590
stop this because now that I
like keep blank. I'm fascinated

2115
02:10:01,590 --> 02:10:06,690
by this guy. Really? He's so
arrogant, really? And he's

2116
02:10:06,690 --> 02:10:11,460
condescending, so condescending
and patronising. He's, he's smug

2117
02:10:11,460 --> 02:10:15,060
in a weird way, and he's just
trying to bullshit Yeah. Now I

2118
02:10:16,050 --> 02:10:18,810
also know that what you're
seeing on screen is a lot of

2119
02:10:18,810 --> 02:10:22,020
stick figures being drawn. And
this drawing

2120
02:10:22,020 --> 02:10:23,670
thing has got to go not to

2121
02:10:23,670 --> 02:10:26,460
be overly dramatic here, but
preserving data equality may be

2122
02:10:26,460 --> 02:10:30,150
one of the most important issues
in a generation a generation

2123
02:10:30,690 --> 02:10:33,270
because without this rule,
internet providers could cripple

2124
02:10:33,270 --> 02:10:35,430
competitors they don't like I
guess

2125
02:10:35,430 --> 02:10:37,890
some other things that might be
important decisions like let me

2126
02:10:37,890 --> 02:10:41,370
think, let's not kill people
anymore, particularly if they're

2127
02:10:41,370 --> 02:10:45,390
brown and live in sand. Let's
not educate our children to be

2128
02:10:45,390 --> 02:10:50,430
slaves for Motorola and Dell and
Microsoft. Let's not inject

2129
02:10:50,430 --> 02:10:54,450
things that did 24 to 30 shots
before a child is one and a

2130
02:10:54,450 --> 02:10:58,440
half. Let's spread that out a
little bit I got some other

2131
02:10:58,440 --> 02:11:01,050
important decisions to make here
drawing douche

2132
02:11:01,110 --> 02:11:03,600
ever noticed the same company
that sells you internet also

2133
02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:08,010
sells cable TV and landlines
stuff the internet Wow. Really

2134
02:11:08,010 --> 02:11:09,240
replaces without data?

2135
02:11:09,900 --> 02:11:12,540
The whole lot stopped a thing I
gotta write that down. I never

2136
02:11:12,540 --> 02:11:13,230
noticed that.

2137
02:11:14,010 --> 02:11:15,480
Have you ever noticed it?

2138
02:11:15,809 --> 02:11:19,349
Yeah, you're providing the pipe
for competitors until they

2139
02:11:19,379 --> 02:11:22,169
either go out of business pay
the metal some middleman or

2140
02:11:22,169 --> 02:11:25,349
both? It's like if one store in
town super promised to pay for

2141
02:11:25,349 --> 02:11:28,469
fast roads everywhere as long as
the town gave them absolute

2142
02:11:28,469 --> 02:11:31,349
power over all the roads
forever. No backseat,

2143
02:11:31,410 --> 02:11:33,990
if you agree. No backseat to
that. No,

2144
02:11:34,020 --> 02:11:35,820
that's easy said that. Yeah,

2145
02:11:35,849 --> 02:11:40,109
yeah. Okay, this is very hip.
And he's drawing stuff. I agree.

2146
02:11:40,140 --> 02:11:41,790
And that you actually see no
backseat

2147
02:11:41,820 --> 02:11:45,150
be surprised when you're later
all the traffic to them is fast

2148
02:11:45,150 --> 02:11:47,340
and free. While the roads
elsewhere are slow and

2149
02:11:47,340 --> 02:11:50,370
neglected. This town is
basically the internet without

2150
02:11:50,370 --> 02:11:53,220
net neutrality, which some
internet providers would love

2151
02:11:53,220 --> 02:11:57,720
but actual internet citizens not
so much. All the data the same,

2152
02:11:57,720 --> 02:12:00,000
this one guy with a good idea
and a bit of programming

2153
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:02,250
knowledge makes something today
that's seen by millions

2154
02:12:02,250 --> 02:12:05,430
tomorrow, but only because his
data is treated equally with

2155
02:12:05,430 --> 02:12:08,430
everything else in those pipes.
And all right. So

2156
02:12:09,540 --> 02:12:11,610
these these things would be
better if at some point in the

2157
02:12:11,610 --> 02:12:16,440
middle of all these drawings, a
big draw to dogs. Just right in

2158
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:18,150
the middle of it. That's
something

2159
02:12:18,150 --> 02:12:21,330
I'd watch. All right. Do you
need to see you need to hear the

2160
02:12:21,330 --> 02:12:22,530
rest? It's a little bit now. No,

2161
02:12:22,530 --> 02:12:24,060
you're right. You're probably
right. I

2162
02:12:24,060 --> 02:12:24,570
think we're done.

2163
02:12:24,750 --> 02:12:26,700
It is just getting annoying at
this point.

2164
02:12:26,700 --> 02:12:31,110
Okay, so I believe that the
people listen to no agenda do

2165
02:12:31,110 --> 02:12:34,950
not need to be patronised and do
not need to have little drawings

2166
02:12:34,950 --> 02:12:39,690
and analogies of fast lanes and
toll booths and speed bumps, and

2167
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:45,330
broken condoms, whatever analogy
you want to use. I think our

2168
02:12:45,330 --> 02:12:48,990
people can handle real
information, and they will

2169
02:12:48,990 --> 02:12:53,850
actually understand it if it's
explained to them. In terms that

2170
02:12:53,850 --> 02:13:01,740
are true. And not this this
makes me mad. Okay. Firstly, let

2171
02:13:01,740 --> 02:13:01,860
me

2172
02:13:02,700 --> 02:13:07,560
before you say any more, you
should maybe reiterate why, you

2173
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:12,720
know, why is this even going on?
Who invented the term net

2174
02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:16,710
neutrality is even backed off on
what he you know, his original

2175
02:13:16,710 --> 02:13:18,540
thesis you brought that up and
I'll show you his

2176
02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:25,230
his his his original thesis is
that this needs to be a metered

2177
02:13:25,230 --> 02:13:31,740
service that is in his orig in
Tim Woods original paper is yes,

2178
02:13:32,190 --> 02:13:35,280
you and although it is
impossible from a tech

2179
02:13:35,310 --> 02:13:38,550
engineering technical
perspective, to literally treat

2180
02:13:38,550 --> 02:13:45,630
every packet as equal, that that
set aside. In his original

2181
02:13:45,630 --> 02:13:50,310
paper, the only way for true
democratisation of how data

2182
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:54,150
travels on a network and who
gets to use what because it is

2183
02:13:54,150 --> 02:13:59,160
not an infinite resource is
through metered service you use

2184
02:13:59,160 --> 02:14:03,900
more you pay more. That is what
this is all about. Now, I read

2185
02:14:03,900 --> 02:14:08,010
to you the paragraph The FCC
released today, the FCC proposes

2186
02:14:08,010 --> 02:14:10,290
to rely on a legal group
blueprint set out by the United

2187
02:14:10,290 --> 02:14:12,150
States Court of Appeals for the
District of Columbia. This is

2188
02:14:12,150 --> 02:14:15,660
this is what started off there
was a lawsuit. In his January

2189
02:14:15,660 --> 02:14:18,660
decision, Verizon versus FCC
using FCC has authority to

2190
02:14:18,660 --> 02:14:21,570
promote broadband deployment to
all Americans under Section 706

2191
02:14:21,570 --> 02:14:25,800
of the Telecommunications Act of
1960s 1996. At the same time,

2192
02:14:26,190 --> 02:14:29,100
the Commission will seriously
consider using its authority

2193
02:14:29,100 --> 02:14:32,670
under the telecommunications
regulation found in title two of

2194
02:14:32,670 --> 02:14:40,410
the Communications Act. So that
would mean regulating Internet

2195
02:14:40,440 --> 02:14:45,900
access as a utility, like the
telephone system, which also I'd

2196
02:14:45,900 --> 02:14:49,980
like to point out is a metered
service. You talk more you pay

2197
02:14:49,980 --> 02:14:54,660
more, it's always been that way.
In addition, the notice proposes

2198
02:14:54,660 --> 02:14:58,500
to retain the definitions and
scope of the 2010 rules, which

2199
02:14:58,500 --> 02:15:00,930
govern broadband Internet
access. as service providers,

2200
02:15:00,930 --> 02:15:04,080
but not services like Enterprise
Services, internet traffic

2201
02:15:04,080 --> 02:15:08,160
exchange and specialised
services, Enterprise Services

2202
02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:11,490
means for businesses they can
have a different deal than

2203
02:15:11,490 --> 02:15:14,700
consumers. Internet traffic
exchange very important because

2204
02:15:14,700 --> 02:15:18,660
that is the market of how the
internet works that which a lot

2205
02:15:18,660 --> 02:15:23,790
of it is not the no money flows,
it's peering from network to

2206
02:15:23,790 --> 02:15:26,460
network. This is what really
makes the Internet work and

2207
02:15:26,460 --> 02:15:30,000
specialised services, which
would be your Netflix inside

2208
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:33,210
your network so that it works
the way you want it at a price

2209
02:15:33,210 --> 02:15:37,320
that you paid that will be
reasonable for you. The agency

2210
02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:40,170
proposes to enhance the existing
transparency rule, which was

2211
02:15:40,170 --> 02:15:42,900
upheld upheld in the DC court,
the proposed enhancements would

2212
02:15:42,900 --> 02:15:45,660
provide consumers edge providers
and the commission with the

2213
02:15:45,660 --> 02:15:48,240
Taylor disclosures including
information on the nature of

2214
02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:51,600
congestion that impacts
consumers use of online services

2215
02:15:51,780 --> 02:15:56,250
and timely notice of new
practices. So if they are going

2216
02:15:56,250 --> 02:16:01,260
to make a change, and this is
the proposal based upon managing

2217
02:16:01,260 --> 02:16:04,620
their network, they will have to
tell you why and who's to blame.

2218
02:16:05,370 --> 02:16:09,270
As part of the Revive no
blocking rule proposes ensuring

2219
02:16:09,270 --> 02:16:12,090
that all who use the internet
can enjoy robust, fast and

2220
02:16:12,090 --> 02:16:14,760
dynamic internet access. I
understand everything in that

2221
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:17,280
sentence except dynamic. I don't
know what they mean by that.

2222
02:16:18,090 --> 02:16:20,490
Tentatively concludes the
priority service offered

2223
02:16:20,490 --> 02:16:22,800
exclusively by broadband
provider to an affiliate should

2224
02:16:22,800 --> 02:16:25,500
be considered illegal until
proven otherwise. Let's read

2225
02:16:25,500 --> 02:16:29,730
that again. Priority service
offered exclusively Oh, to a

2226
02:16:29,820 --> 02:16:32,520
affiliate should be considered
illegal, illegal until proven

2227
02:16:32,520 --> 02:16:37,620
otherwise. So that is the NBC
Comcast clause that you can't

2228
02:16:37,620 --> 02:16:42,150
provide some kind of priority to
your own content. Ask how to

2229
02:16:42,150 --> 02:16:46,200
devise a rigorous multifactor
screen to analyse whether any

2230
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:49,770
conduct hurts consumers
competition, free expression and

2231
02:16:49,770 --> 02:16:52,860
civic engagement and other
criteria under a legal standard

2232
02:16:52,860 --> 02:16:55,980
termed commercial
reasonableness, which is already

2233
02:16:55,980 --> 02:17:00,030
kind of in place. Ask a series
of detailed questions about what

2234
02:17:00,030 --> 02:17:03,060
legal authority provides the
most effective means of keeping

2235
02:17:03,060 --> 02:17:08,220
the Internet open. There's your
open, broad statement, section

2236
02:17:08,220 --> 02:17:11,490
706, or title two. So which one
will it be and proposes a

2237
02:17:11,490 --> 02:17:14,940
multifaceted process to promptly
resolve and head off disputes,

2238
02:17:15,210 --> 02:17:18,420
including an ombuds person to
act as a watchdog on behalf of

2239
02:17:18,420 --> 02:17:22,410
consumers and startups and small
businesses? In other words, the

2240
02:17:22,440 --> 02:17:26,400
FCC is saying, Yeah, we think we
should regulate this. And we

2241
02:17:26,400 --> 02:17:30,090
probably want to do it in a
manner that is consistent with

2242
02:17:30,090 --> 02:17:33,000
and that depends whether it be
706, or title two, but it's kind

2243
02:17:33,000 --> 02:17:37,500
of the same thing. It will be
consistent with some form of

2244
02:17:37,500 --> 02:17:40,410
utility, although, from what I'm
reading, here, the proposal is

2245
02:17:40,410 --> 02:17:46,710
to keep it a little bit more
open. Now, the CEO of Comcast

2246
02:17:47,370 --> 02:17:53,490
spoke to his investors, that now
it's two days ago, and I have

2247
02:17:53,490 --> 02:17:57,240
the end was as streamed on a
conference call. This happens

2248
02:17:57,240 --> 02:18:01,290
all the time. Public companies
do this. And they, you know,

2249
02:18:01,290 --> 02:18:04,050
this is for investors to listen
to, and they and in this case,

2250
02:18:04,050 --> 02:18:10,050
it was not the typical calling a
q&a, like a, like a quarterly

2251
02:18:10,050 --> 02:18:14,970
report. But there was a q&a with
an insider at Comcast asking the

2252
02:18:14,970 --> 02:18:18,840
CEO questions, then I have three
clips from this. And I believe

2253
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:21,660
that when our listeners hear
these clips, they will not only

2254
02:18:21,660 --> 02:18:26,250
understand what the debate is
really about, but they will

2255
02:18:26,250 --> 02:18:29,370
understand the technical portion
of it. And they will understand

2256
02:18:29,370 --> 02:18:33,240
where it is headed, because it
is laid out very clearly by the

2257
02:18:33,240 --> 02:18:37,350
guy who's on the other side of
the debate, if you look at the

2258
02:18:37,350 --> 02:18:42,960
whole net neutrality issue. So
here he is explaining about what

2259
02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:45,420
he is calling, I think it's
appropriate term paid

2260
02:18:45,420 --> 02:18:51,090
prioritisation. That will be
Netflix and title two. And what

2261
02:18:51,090 --> 02:18:54,720
that really entails. If we go
for a title to regulation by the

2262
02:18:54,720 --> 02:18:55,290
FCC,

2263
02:18:55,320 --> 02:18:59,580
then you have this reaction of
Oh, my God, he's authorising a

2264
02:18:59,580 --> 02:19:03,630
fast lane. That's the death of
net neutrality. And therefore we

2265
02:19:03,630 --> 02:19:08,070
have to go to title two. I think
there are a lot of logical, I

2266
02:19:08,070 --> 02:19:10,740
think there are a lot of
synapses in that logical chain.

2267
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:14,490
But I'm going to give you the
biggest one. And Tom Wheeler

2268
02:19:14,490 --> 02:19:17,760
himself has written about it in
a blog. Lots of people have

2269
02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:21,480
commented on it, which is, and
this you know, I hope this isn't

2270
02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:26,070
headline news to everyone in
this room. But there is nothing

2271
02:19:26,070 --> 02:19:31,290
in title two, that provides
authority for saying that all

2272
02:19:31,290 --> 02:19:34,770
services have to be treated the
same. In fact, the whole history

2273
02:19:34,770 --> 02:19:41,010
of title two has been that
Telecom, I mean, that the

2274
02:19:41,010 --> 02:19:45,240
telecom carriers regulated or
the title two are absolutely

2275
02:19:45,510 --> 02:19:49,440
allowed to provide different
levels of service for different

2276
02:19:49,440 --> 02:19:52,890
amounts of money, taking about
bells providing different level

2277
02:19:52,890 --> 02:19:56,640
of service to businesses, versus
residences. And in fact, the

2278
02:19:56,640 --> 02:20:02,100
language of title two is that
the differentiation and services

2279
02:20:02,100 --> 02:20:05,940
being provided has to be
commercially reasonable.

2280
02:20:07,020 --> 02:20:10,350
Now, this is interesting. The
one thing most people have

2281
02:20:10,350 --> 02:20:13,680
right, and I'm going to use Leo
Laporte as an example, I think a

2282
02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:17,550
lot of our listeners have seen
the his stance on this is that

2283
02:20:17,550 --> 02:20:22,350
Wheeler is an insider for the
cable television Association,

2284
02:20:22,380 --> 02:20:26,310
who are a lot of the providers
are cable companies. And he is

2285
02:20:26,310 --> 02:20:31,170
right that they are playing
together and working together

2286
02:20:31,170 --> 02:20:35,790
towards a common goal. But he is
incorrect in thinking this

2287
02:20:35,790 --> 02:20:38,820
comment. And this is I think
it's purely political. I think

2288
02:20:38,820 --> 02:20:42,150
people that politicians love
using it to get votes and

2289
02:20:42,150 --> 02:20:45,990
contributions. podcasters love
saying this, and bloggers love

2290
02:20:45,990 --> 02:20:49,230
saying it to get to garner
sympathy or something like this,

2291
02:20:49,230 --> 02:20:53,070
like, Oh, look at me, look at
me, I'm all for net neutrality.

2292
02:20:53,730 --> 02:20:58,560
But it is not in anyone's
interest to slow down your video

2293
02:20:58,560 --> 02:21:03,150
or slow down your website, these
guys are doing one thing and one

2294
02:21:03,150 --> 02:21:05,880
thing only playing together
because their dream has always

2295
02:21:05,880 --> 02:21:11,010
been to legally have a way to
set your price and charge you

2296
02:21:11,010 --> 02:21:14,940
more if you go over a certain
price point and have that

2297
02:21:14,940 --> 02:21:17,760
regulated by the government.
This is what they want, they

2298
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:21,360
really really want this because
broadband and all types of

2299
02:21:21,360 --> 02:21:24,930
access for the internet have
been going down. Because there

2300
02:21:24,930 --> 02:21:28,200
was there's real competition,
certainly in the main market,

2301
02:21:28,200 --> 02:21:32,370
which is the peering and
exchange market. And this is

2302
02:21:32,400 --> 02:21:35,910
this is a little bit longer
clip. This I think will help

2303
02:21:35,910 --> 02:21:40,950
explain exactly what the
different markets are and why

2304
02:21:42,330 --> 02:21:44,910
you are going to have to pay for
what you use.

2305
02:21:44,940 --> 02:21:47,940
There are two different markets
here. There is the last mile

2306
02:21:47,940 --> 02:21:52,470
market where we as an ISP
deliver content to our customers

2307
02:21:52,740 --> 02:21:55,890
and charge customers for that
content. And they access the

2308
02:21:55,890 --> 02:22:00,480
internet by going through the by
going through Comcast is an ISP.

2309
02:22:00,900 --> 02:22:05,130
And there is what I would call a
first mile market, which is the

2310
02:22:05,130 --> 02:22:09,300
way in which the internet at
large, the internet edge

2311
02:22:09,300 --> 02:22:13,890
providers content providers get
their content onto our network

2312
02:22:14,100 --> 02:22:19,800
to be able to be consumed by our
consumers. The Open Internet

2313
02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:24,240
debate is about that first
market, it's about the last mile

2314
02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:28,590
market, it's about treating,
making sure that consumers have

2315
02:22:28,590 --> 02:22:32,070
an open and unfettered access to
all the content on the internet,

2316
02:22:32,340 --> 02:22:35,160
that there's no blocking,
there's no discrimination in the

2317
02:22:35,160 --> 02:22:38,610
way in which they get access to
that to that content. The

2318
02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:41,880
interconnection market is a
completely different market. And

2319
02:22:41,880 --> 02:22:46,500
it functions in a different way.
It is a market that I would

2320
02:22:46,500 --> 02:22:49,920
argue is intensely competitive.
I think the ISP market is

2321
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:52,350
competitive. But the
interconnection market is

2322
02:22:52,350 --> 02:22:57,390
intensely competitive. There are
dozens of very large players in

2323
02:22:57,390 --> 02:23:01,590
that space, who are selling
transit services. So much by the

2324
02:23:01,590 --> 02:23:05,520
competition is so intense in
that market, that the pricing in

2325
02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:09,690
the interconnection market has
dropped 99% In the last 15

2326
02:23:09,690 --> 02:23:13,920
years. So among the dozens of
large players here, Comcast

2327
02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:17,520
alone has 40 companies with
which we have settlement free

2328
02:23:17,520 --> 02:23:20,490
hearing. That is we don't pay
them anything. They don't pay us

2329
02:23:20,490 --> 02:23:24,540
anything because our traffic is
roughly imbalanced. And for and

2330
02:23:24,540 --> 02:23:28,890
there was a time when Netflix
was using aka my level three,

2331
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:32,730
very cogent, and their traffic
was imbalanced with our traffic.

2332
02:23:32,910 --> 02:23:36,540
So there was no way in that
model for us to collect anything

2333
02:23:36,810 --> 02:23:41,100
without completely disrupting
the business model and structure

2334
02:23:41,310 --> 02:23:44,340
of the interconnection market,
which I think would be a mistake

2335
02:23:44,340 --> 02:23:44,730
to do.

2336
02:23:44,970 --> 02:23:48,120
Now, before I could tell you is
this clear? John, do you find

2337
02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:51,180
this clear what he is saying
about the internet, this is my

2338
02:23:51,180 --> 02:23:51,840
old peering

2339
02:23:51,840 --> 02:23:54,300
situation where you have all
these backbone providers and

2340
02:23:54,300 --> 02:23:57,420
there's a bunch of never heard
of, I mean, the public hasn't

2341
02:23:57,420 --> 02:24:01,170
and they do deals. Yeah. And
they do and they, they try to

2342
02:24:01,170 --> 02:24:04,860
balance the deal. So okay, we'll
give you a better connection to

2343
02:24:04,860 --> 02:24:07,890
this because you you but you
need to connection to me and

2344
02:24:07,890 --> 02:24:10,530
it's going to be you're going to
use so much of what I have and

2345
02:24:10,530 --> 02:24:13,080
I'm going to use so much of what
you have. And this is all of

2346
02:24:13,080 --> 02:24:17,130
course bypassing the big real
internet main nodes which is may

2347
02:24:17,130 --> 02:24:20,280
east and Mae West and those
sorts of things, which you

2348
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:22,770
actually have to pay a lot of
money to get on and you just

2349
02:24:22,770 --> 02:24:26,070
could do all the whole world is
about bypassing so there's all

2350
02:24:26,070 --> 02:24:28,200
these these deals these

2351
02:24:28,230 --> 02:24:32,970
deals and when you have a movie
which so what is the movie a

2352
02:24:32,970 --> 02:24:35,460
gigabyte? I'm just going to
throw a number out there.

2353
02:24:36,030 --> 02:24:39,540
No wonder maybe four maybe four?
No, actually the run HD could be

2354
02:24:39,540 --> 02:24:42,300
more he about that's actually
about a gigabyte the way they do

2355
02:24:42,300 --> 02:24:43,290
it today. Yeah, so

2356
02:24:43,290 --> 02:24:48,240
gigabyte. I remember waiting an
hour for one megabyte to

2357
02:24:48,240 --> 02:24:53,070
download or my 56k frame relay.
Oh, maybe there was a 28 eight,

2358
02:24:53,550 --> 02:25:00,000
regardless. So what he's saying
is there was a time when now

2359
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,940
Netflix was, and they were
using, they might have been

2360
02:25:02,940 --> 02:25:05,040
using Akamai, I think they were
using cogent because he brings

2361
02:25:05,040 --> 02:25:08,430
that up. But any type of
provider, you know, and these

2362
02:25:08,430 --> 02:25:11,730
guys are not cheap, it's very
expensive to distribute that

2363
02:25:11,730 --> 02:25:17,700
kind of data through a company
like Akamai to these edge

2364
02:25:17,700 --> 02:25:20,220
providers, and depending on
which network you're going to

2365
02:25:20,220 --> 02:25:23,760
and, and which deals you have,
you're going to find yourself

2366
02:25:23,790 --> 02:25:26,880
in, in different scenarios,
different pricing. And so

2367
02:25:26,880 --> 02:25:32,370
obviously, as Netflix grows, it
is just not an infinite

2368
02:25:32,370 --> 02:25:37,680
resource. Bandwidth, including
the network of Comcast, pipes

2369
02:25:37,680 --> 02:25:42,060
become saturated routers become
saturated, there is up there is

2370
02:25:42,060 --> 02:25:45,210
management necessary, there's
upgrade of equipment necessary.

2371
02:25:45,360 --> 02:25:48,810
And these video services,
Netflix being the one that has

2372
02:25:48,810 --> 02:25:52,800
really kicked all this off art,
really using up a lot of

2373
02:25:52,800 --> 02:25:56,400
resources and somebody has to
pay, what he's saying is, I

2374
02:25:56,400 --> 02:26:01,020
really don't want that to be the
interconnect part, because that

2375
02:26:01,020 --> 02:26:06,120
will ruin the internet. And I
have I happen to agree. So his

2376
02:26:06,120 --> 02:26:10,320
idea is bring that inside the
network and give them some kind

2377
02:26:10,320 --> 02:26:13,860
of priority inside my network,
if that's what people want. But

2378
02:26:13,860 --> 02:26:17,160
that is actually doing the
opposite of ruining. And for

2379
02:26:17,160 --> 02:26:22,290
everyone else, it is making more
room for the other traffic that

2380
02:26:22,290 --> 02:26:24,630
is within balance. We continue.

2381
02:26:24,930 --> 02:26:28,620
And I think that at Netflix,
that when he calls for strong

2382
02:26:28,620 --> 02:26:30,900
net neutrality, I think he's
definition of metal, he's

2383
02:26:30,900 --> 02:26:35,010
talking about Reed Hastings, I
guess the Netflix CEO quality

2384
02:26:35,010 --> 02:26:38,070
of transport shouldn't have a
charge associated, he is talking

2385
02:26:38,070 --> 02:26:40,920
about the interconnect
connection, he would like he

2386
02:26:40,920 --> 02:26:45,660
would like free transit. Yeah,
and I read, I have a huge amount

2387
02:26:45,660 --> 02:26:48,450
of respect for Reed Hastings,
he's built an amazing business.

2388
02:26:49,080 --> 02:26:51,990
And I don't blame him for saying
I'd like my transit to be free.

2389
02:26:51,990 --> 02:26:55,530
And he used to pay $700 million
to the United States Postal

2390
02:26:55,530 --> 02:27:00,480
Service, taking $700 million
cost on your business is a good

2391
02:27:00,480 --> 02:27:04,320
thing. But I point out, you
know, I'd like set top boxes for

2392
02:27:04,320 --> 02:27:07,020
free. Imagine how much that
would take out of our business

2393
02:27:07,020 --> 02:27:09,360
and how much you're getting
lower cost, lower the pricing

2394
02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:12,120
for our customers, but
somebody's got to pay for the

2395
02:27:12,120 --> 02:27:16,680
set top boxes. I mean, and and
it's obviously we're the most

2396
02:27:16,680 --> 02:27:20,700
logical person to pay for the
set top boxes, reads argument

2397
02:27:21,090 --> 02:27:24,240
that, that he should have free
transit and it's a cogent

2398
02:27:24,240 --> 02:27:28,470
argument is well, and that there
should be free transit is just a

2399
02:27:28,470 --> 02:27:31,230
cost shifting argument. That's
a, that's an argument there is

2400
02:27:31,230 --> 02:27:35,730
cost for transit providers,
content delivery networks, other

2401
02:27:35,730 --> 02:27:39,180
transit providers to connect to
our network. And there's a cost

2402
02:27:39,180 --> 02:27:44,640
to that. And, and if Netflix
doesn't bear its share of those

2403
02:27:44,640 --> 02:27:48,060
costs to connect to the network,
then we have no choice but to

2404
02:27:48,060 --> 02:27:50,910
raise prices for everyone else.
Even though Netflix is

2405
02:27:50,910 --> 02:27:54,210
responsible for a third of the
traffic on the internet at peak

2406
02:27:54,210 --> 02:27:58,290
times. That means two thirds of
the traffic is not Netflix. And,

2407
02:27:58,830 --> 02:28:01,620
you know, making a rough
approximation here. Why should

2408
02:28:01,650 --> 02:28:05,010
two thirds of the people who
never use Netflix, pay for the

2409
02:28:05,010 --> 02:28:08,340
cost for Netflix to attach to
our network? It doesn't make any

2410
02:28:08,340 --> 02:28:08,670
sense.

2411
02:28:09,750 --> 02:28:14,400
This, to me is a very compelling
argument. And is he is saying

2412
02:28:14,400 --> 02:28:17,970
exactly the opposite of people
who are calling the ISPs the

2413
02:28:17,970 --> 02:28:23,190
evil devil. He's saying, you
know, Netflix is ruining the

2414
02:28:23,190 --> 02:28:26,460
experience for everyone else. We
don't want to start charging

2415
02:28:26,460 --> 02:28:29,310
people at the edge, the opposite
of what everyone thinks is

2416
02:28:29,310 --> 02:28:34,830
happening. We want to bring them
inside the network and help them

2417
02:28:34,830 --> 02:28:37,890
but yeah, it's a cost somewhere.
And it's probably going to be

2418
02:28:37,890 --> 02:28:41,460
cheaper if they come inside the
network. But you're going to

2419
02:28:41,460 --> 02:28:45,360
raise prices across the board.
And here is the the Comcast the

2420
02:28:45,360 --> 02:28:48,420
largest ISP in United States,
here's their what he is

2421
02:28:48,420 --> 02:28:51,900
proposing will happen over the
next five years. And I'm here to

2422
02:28:51,900 --> 02:28:56,430
report it is it is a version of
metered internet. It will be

2423
02:28:56,430 --> 02:29:00,660
much more friendly than your
telephone, or your electricity

2424
02:29:00,660 --> 02:29:00,960
bill.

2425
02:29:00,990 --> 02:29:03,780
We have a series of pilots,
we've got three or four

2426
02:29:03,780 --> 02:29:07,140
different structure of pilots.
When we started, we had two

2427
02:29:07,140 --> 02:29:11,460
basic models, which is one is
depending on the tier of service

2428
02:29:11,460 --> 02:29:15,570
you bought, that's how much
capacity we would give you in a

2429
02:29:15,570 --> 02:29:20,580
month. So you'd get whatever 250
gig and I don't remember these

2430
02:29:20,580 --> 02:29:25,560
numbers were right at 15 at our
at our 15 meg down service and

2431
02:29:25,560 --> 02:29:31,560
350 50 Meg and 550 at 100, Meg
and whatever. And then we had a

2432
02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:37,080
model where everybody got 300 or
350. And you could buy extra

2433
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:43,680
packages of 10 meg each as you
went through them for $10. And

2434
02:29:43,740 --> 02:29:46,980
tentatively, we're not there
yet. It seems like the second

2435
02:29:46,980 --> 02:29:50,520
model is preferable to
consumers, then the first model

2436
02:29:50,550 --> 02:29:53,160
first model didn't really
understand there's a little

2437
02:29:53,160 --> 02:29:56,520
confusing to them. Seems like
the second model is preferable

2438
02:29:56,520 --> 02:30:01,470
to that in our pilot markets,
more than 90 8% of our customers

2439
02:30:01,470 --> 02:30:04,740
are not affected by this. So
you're you're talking about

2440
02:30:04,740 --> 02:30:08,100
something less than 2% of the
customers being affected by

2441
02:30:08,100 --> 02:30:13,290
these pilots, I would predict
that in five years, Comcast at

2442
02:30:13,290 --> 02:30:16,260
least would have a usage based
billing model rolled out across

2443
02:30:16,260 --> 02:30:16,830
its footprint,

2444
02:30:17,190 --> 02:30:20,730
usage based billing model. And
here's a CEO of a publicly

2445
02:30:20,730 --> 02:30:24,120
listed company, who is
predicting something, which

2446
02:30:24,120 --> 02:30:27,690
means he's really sure of his
case, these guys don't just this

2447
02:30:27,690 --> 02:30:31,170
forward looking statements, you
don't just do this stuff before

2448
02:30:31,170 --> 02:30:33,840
shareholders unless you're very
sure of where you're headed, and

2449
02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:35,430
what's going to happen, here's
the pricing.

2450
02:30:35,610 --> 02:30:38,220
But I would also predict that
the vast majority of our

2451
02:30:38,220 --> 02:30:44,970
customers would never be caught
in the in the in the buying the

2452
02:30:44,970 --> 02:30:48,510
additional buckets of usage that
will that will always want to

2453
02:30:48,510 --> 02:30:53,490
set the basic level of usage at
a sufficiently high level that

2454
02:30:53,490 --> 02:30:56,670
the vast majority of our
customers are not implicated by

2455
02:30:56,670 --> 02:31:02,070
the usage based billing plan.
And that number may be 350. That

2456
02:31:02,070 --> 02:31:07,260
might be 350 Gig a month. Today,
it might be 500 Gig a month in

2457
02:31:07,260 --> 02:31:12,480
five years. But we'll all that.
But it will never, I don't think

2458
02:31:12,480 --> 02:31:16,230
we will want to be in a model
where it is fully variable eyes.

2459
02:31:16,230 --> 02:31:19,530
And you know, 80% of our
customers are implicated by

2460
02:31:19,530 --> 02:31:22,680
usage based billing and are all
buying different packets of

2461
02:31:22,680 --> 02:31:25,680
usage. I don't, I don't think
that's the model that we are

2462
02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:26,340
heading towards.

2463
02:31:26,430 --> 02:31:30,000
But it is usage based billing.
And that's exactly what he

2464
02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:30,510
wants.

2465
02:31:32,040 --> 02:31:35,340
Well, I think what he really
would like, Well, yeah, because

2466
02:31:35,370 --> 02:31:39,090
there's kind of a interesting
trick here, essentially, it's a

2467
02:31:39,090 --> 02:31:41,880
high minimum that you pay for
it, you actually pay, you're

2468
02:31:41,880 --> 02:31:44,340
paying for stuff you don't use.
In that case, you're paying for

2469
02:31:44,340 --> 02:31:47,970
stuff you don't use, which is
great. And then if you go over,

2470
02:31:48,030 --> 02:31:51,180
you have to pay more, which is
exactly what these guys like. I

2471
02:31:51,180 --> 02:31:54,540
mean, this is the cell phone
model, they love this model,

2472
02:31:54,540 --> 02:31:55,260
which is

2473
02:31:55,320 --> 02:31:58,320
yeah, it's and this is what you
get when you get regulation.

2474
02:31:59,490 --> 02:32:01,470
And that's what's going to
happen, which I've always said

2475
02:32:01,470 --> 02:32:03,750
is going to happen. I've
actually advocated it myself,

2476
02:32:03,750 --> 02:32:06,420
because it's the only thing that
makes any sense. But there's an

2477
02:32:06,420 --> 02:32:09,060
interesting thing here about
Netflix, which I thought was

2478
02:32:09,090 --> 02:32:17,070
unique, which is Netflix did
this deal, because it's people

2479
02:32:17,070 --> 02:32:21,360
are getting a questionable
experience. And so they had to

2480
02:32:22,110 --> 02:32:24,930
up the ante by doing this
peering agreement with Comcast,

2481
02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:27,810
which is interesting, because
Reed Hastings, if you look it

2482
02:32:27,810 --> 02:32:31,980
up, is just bitching and moaning
about the you know, he's a big

2483
02:32:31,980 --> 02:32:34,290
promoter of net neutrality. This
whole thing is almost like a

2484
02:32:34,290 --> 02:32:40,740
scheme dreamed up by Netflix.
Yeah, to get a better deal

2485
02:32:40,770 --> 02:32:43,830
better or more throughput
without having to pay for it?

2486
02:32:43,860 --> 02:32:47,100
Yeah. Oh, you know, the customer
is going to have to pay for net

2487
02:32:47,100 --> 02:32:49,920
neutrality so we can get our
movies through. Yeah, that's

2488
02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:52,800
exactly what it is it the whole
thing. Everybody's playing with

2489
02:32:52,800 --> 02:32:56,610
your theory isn't i I'm more or
less into this, this idea, even

2490
02:32:56,610 --> 02:32:58,890
though I have this more onerous
concept.

2491
02:32:59,100 --> 02:33:00,810
And that may come that may come

2492
02:33:02,130 --> 02:33:05,400
theory is that these guys are
playing into the hands of

2493
02:33:05,400 --> 02:33:09,570
Netflix. Not anybody else.
You're not gonna get any better.

2494
02:33:09,870 --> 02:33:10,680
YouTube,

2495
02:33:10,710 --> 02:33:13,290
you're gonna get better Netflix,
you're gonna get a guaranteed

2496
02:33:13,290 --> 02:33:14,250
good Netflix.

2497
02:33:14,429 --> 02:33:16,889
And, but and you're gonna pay
for it.

2498
02:33:18,750 --> 02:33:22,470
Yeah, yeah. And it's going to be
set by law. And it's going to be

2499
02:33:22,470 --> 02:33:27,750
set by law. And it's all about
Netflix. If people would say,

2500
02:33:28,110 --> 02:33:33,000
Oh, wow, I really want to have
better YouTube. Not another

2501
02:33:33,030 --> 02:33:34,080
screw YouTube

2502
02:33:34,140 --> 02:33:36,660
better, but I want to get
better. blogspot. Yeah.

2503
02:33:37,080 --> 02:33:40,920
Well, not even that Blogspot is
also owned by some not also

2504
02:33:40,920 --> 02:33:45,600
Google product. Yeah, let's face
it, how many really into and how

2505
02:33:45,600 --> 02:33:48,330
many really independent
companies are there? I'll tell

2506
02:33:48,330 --> 02:33:54,750
you, twit is one. And I think if
anything, and I'm all for the

2507
02:33:54,750 --> 02:33:57,810
little guy I'm all for Leo. I
want him to succeed. I enjoy

2508
02:33:57,810 --> 02:34:02,010
watching his success. But his
bandwidth comes from CacheFly.

2509
02:34:02,880 --> 02:34:08,040
And you watch there's going to
be problems because of net

2510
02:34:08,040 --> 02:34:12,900
neutrality. It's going to it's
good people and customers are

2511
02:34:12,900 --> 02:34:15,450
going to pay more and be paid
more but usage base and is going

2512
02:34:15,450 --> 02:34:19,080
to be set in law it's going to
be statutory and

2513
02:34:19,110 --> 02:34:20,100
congratulations.

2514
02:34:21,840 --> 02:34:26,400
Well, an operation like Leo's
which chews up a lot of banding

2515
02:34:26,910 --> 02:34:30,360
because they're doing video on
show and they do they have way

2516
02:34:30,360 --> 02:34:32,670
too many shows are always
experimented and keep too many

2517
02:34:32,670 --> 02:34:37,470
shows on the air I think and
their video, a lot of video

2518
02:34:37,470 --> 02:34:40,050
fees, which is high bandwidth
and they're all high def they're

2519
02:34:40,230 --> 02:34:45,090
nice. Feeds are great. But
there's too much of it and he's

2520
02:34:45,090 --> 02:34:47,610
gonna either have to cut back on
his programming or whatever or

2521
02:34:47,610 --> 02:34:50,610
it had to pay more which I think
he can afford to be honest about

2522
02:34:50,610 --> 02:34:54,510
it. But it's it's gonna it
hurts. I think a lot of these

2523
02:34:55,530 --> 02:35:00,510
these networks have pockets like
us, for example. We have a

2524
02:35:00,510 --> 02:35:07,170
podcast. Yes. It's like we're
never going to approach the, the

2525
02:35:07,170 --> 02:35:11,370
limits at all. Because it's one
operates one show and there's no

2526
02:35:11,370 --> 02:35:14,700
video. It's actually we don't
use much bandwidth doing this

2527
02:35:14,700 --> 02:35:15,390
show no.

2528
02:35:16,500 --> 02:35:21,930
At all. It also do, we don't
have to stream it is no reason

2529
02:35:21,930 --> 02:35:22,770
for streaming.

2530
02:35:24,990 --> 02:35:27,660
Right? Although you'd like to
stream. Yeah,

2531
02:35:28,260 --> 02:35:30,210
of course, I like it. But
there's no, there's no reason

2532
02:35:30,210 --> 02:35:31,830
for it. I mean, stream

2533
02:35:31,830 --> 02:35:32,790
th unplugged,

2534
02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:39,240
I mean, more that you don't. So
if you want to watch a Netflix

2535
02:35:39,240 --> 02:35:42,690
movie, if you're not streaming
it, you'd have to wait for it to

2536
02:35:42,690 --> 02:35:45,360
download. And that would be a
bad experience, because oh, man,

2537
02:35:45,360 --> 02:35:47,730
I gotta wait, you know, an hour
for this whole movie to

2538
02:35:47,730 --> 02:35:51,150
download. And then I can watch
it. So that's why people want it

2539
02:35:51,150 --> 02:35:53,700
streaming. So you can kick it
off and kind of an on demand

2540
02:35:53,700 --> 02:35:58,080
experience. Right now with us,
you might have to wait two

2541
02:35:58,080 --> 02:35:58,680
minutes.

2542
02:35:59,880 --> 02:36:01,620
And by the way, slow connection.
And by

2543
02:36:01,620 --> 02:36:04,710
the way, a lot of people have
said, Man, you know, it took so

2544
02:36:04,710 --> 02:36:09,900
long for to download, it took
five minutes. That's because we

2545
02:36:09,930 --> 02:36:12,720
sometimes we have different
peering agreements run through

2546
02:36:12,720 --> 02:36:16,230
different routes to keep cost
down on our provider side, which

2547
02:36:16,230 --> 02:36:19,590
by the way, is kindly provided
for, by by the frown net guys.

2548
02:36:20,970 --> 02:36:25,170
You know, and we, we, we
actually pay, we actually pay

2549
02:36:25,170 --> 02:36:28,950
for it. You know, there's a lot
of a lot of management that goes

2550
02:36:28,950 --> 02:36:32,310
on. And it's not free, you know,
these, it's not like they just

2551
02:36:32,310 --> 02:36:36,570
have a server somewhere and have
unlimited bandwidth No, in and

2552
02:36:36,570 --> 02:36:38,670
if you want any kind of
experience, they have all kinds

2553
02:36:38,670 --> 02:36:40,950
of agreements and routes that
they take through different

2554
02:36:40,950 --> 02:36:44,430
ISPs. And they can change that
based upon demand and based upon

2555
02:36:44,520 --> 02:36:47,970
billing cycles, and, and you
watch the 95 Five, everyone's

2556
02:36:47,970 --> 02:36:50,940
gonna be on some version of 95.
Five. And if you want to know

2557
02:36:50,940 --> 02:36:53,490
what that is, look it up. Even I
don't really understand how it

2558
02:36:53,490 --> 02:36:57,390
works, you always get screwed
when you go over 95% for bursts

2559
02:36:57,390 --> 02:37:03,960
or whatever. But anyway, the
bottom line is do not accept

2560
02:37:03,960 --> 02:37:09,090
Fast Lane speed bump, toll road
analogies, you this is all your

2561
02:37:09,090 --> 02:37:12,360
right is all Netflix and just
not wanting to pay up, you are

2562
02:37:12,360 --> 02:37:15,420
going to be paying and you are
going to be paying more if you

2563
02:37:15,420 --> 02:37:17,940
want Netflix, if you watch a lot
of it, you're going to be paying

2564
02:37:17,940 --> 02:37:21,540
more than you pay now. And the
difference is you will not only

2565
02:37:21,540 --> 02:37:25,590
do not have the competition in
most most cases, you now will

2566
02:37:25,590 --> 02:37:29,190
not be able to bitch and moan
because it will be set in law

2567
02:37:29,190 --> 02:37:32,820
and the government will regulate
it. That's what that's what

2568
02:37:32,820 --> 02:37:36,360
you're voting for when you yell
net neutrality and change your

2569
02:37:36,360 --> 02:37:39,480
icon to black and talk about
slowing down the net. And

2570
02:37:39,480 --> 02:37:44,460
hahaha. That's the bottom line.
And I hope that it's clear now.

2571
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:45,060
No.

2572
02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:50,400
You're nuts. Yeah, I

2573
02:37:50,400 --> 02:37:52,710
guess I mean, this is really
interesting to listen to this

2574
02:37:52,710 --> 02:37:55,860
long spiel, because it was
pretty, you know, you had a lot

2575
02:37:55,860 --> 02:37:59,010
of details you have your
theories are all they all make

2576
02:37:59,010 --> 02:38:02,400
sense? Then you have the quotes
the quotes from the Comcast guy,

2577
02:38:02,400 --> 02:38:07,020
which is the guy who would know,
and all the rest of it. And it's

2578
02:38:07,020 --> 02:38:10,470
now now this is just a complete
waste of your time. No offence?

2579
02:38:10,500 --> 02:38:13,020
No, I know, I know. Well, we
have to provide this public

2580
02:38:13,020 --> 02:38:13,590
service.

2581
02:38:13,680 --> 02:38:16,470
We have I've been on the show,
like you said, I've been on

2582
02:38:16,470 --> 02:38:19,770
radio show twice where this came
up. And I could bring it in. I

2583
02:38:19,800 --> 02:38:22,650
drew the metre thing at him the
last time I said, well, because

2584
02:38:22,650 --> 02:38:27,090
I had argued with Leo two years
ago about metering the internet.

2585
02:38:27,090 --> 02:38:29,640
I said it's a foregone
conclusion, it's like gonna be

2586
02:38:29,640 --> 02:38:34,290
like water, you use water, you
know, what is everywhere, the

2587
02:38:34,290 --> 02:38:36,480
water is everywhere. And but you
turn on the faucet in your

2588
02:38:36,480 --> 02:38:38,730
house, and you got to pay for
it. And that's the way the

2589
02:38:38,730 --> 02:38:42,570
internet will has to go. There's
no two ways about it. I mean,

2590
02:38:42,570 --> 02:38:45,210
they're essentially that way now
and they're gouging. Yeah,

2591
02:38:45,210 --> 02:38:47,790
but it's a lack of technical
knowledge of how the Internet

2592
02:38:47,790 --> 02:38:51,660
actually works. When people say
they're double dipping, and this

2593
02:38:51,660 --> 02:38:56,640
is this is it's two completely
different markets, taking place

2594
02:38:56,670 --> 02:38:57,450
EEO and

2595
02:38:57,450 --> 02:39:01,110
and a lot of these guys, they
they think that they're going to

2596
02:39:01,110 --> 02:39:03,990
have they think they're going to
get it, it's targeting them to

2597
02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:06,360
gouge them. Yeah. Well,

2598
02:39:06,539 --> 02:39:09,809
well, is it probably it may
happen. Yeah. You know, and

2599
02:39:09,839 --> 02:39:10,529
sorry.

2600
02:39:10,890 --> 02:39:15,300
But if you've been getting a you
know, essentially, you're using

2601
02:39:15,300 --> 02:39:18,120
a distribution mechanism that
for all practical purposes, is

2602
02:39:18,120 --> 02:39:21,630
free. Although it's not free, we
pay to have our content

2603
02:39:21,630 --> 02:39:25,380
distributed because it has to be
done by some professional group.

2604
02:39:25,380 --> 02:39:27,000
It can't be just on my server.

2605
02:39:27,029 --> 02:39:31,199
And it's also it has to go it's
a lot of bandwidth. When you

2606
02:39:31,199 --> 02:39:34,679
look at how many people download
the show, and that bandwidth has

2607
02:39:34,679 --> 02:39:37,769
to be paid for it is not free.
It is not just you can hook up

2608
02:39:37,769 --> 02:39:41,099
the pipe and you're good to go.
This is the part that people do

2609
02:39:41,099 --> 02:39:43,559
Leo hasn't really had to deal
with bandwidth because he gets

2610
02:39:43,559 --> 02:39:48,269
from cash fly through some old
AOL deal or whatever it is, in

2611
02:39:48,269 --> 02:39:51,539
one day, someone's gonna wake up
and he's gonna say, you know,

2612
02:39:51,539 --> 02:39:54,689
and that's what he's afraid of.
I understand. Yeah, you know,

2613
02:39:54,869 --> 02:39:58,709
you're pushing a lot of bits
here and your interconnect is

2614
02:39:58,709 --> 02:40:00,719
getting pretty weird. We're out
of whack, we're gonna have to

2615
02:40:00,719 --> 02:40:02,369
start buying transit. And

2616
02:40:03,510 --> 02:40:06,240
another example of this sort of
thing is of your right eye, this

2617
02:40:06,240 --> 02:40:09,180
happened to me a couple of
times, you're a writer, you do a

2618
02:40:09,180 --> 02:40:13,290
deal with some magazine, and you
get paid way too much, it's way

2619
02:40:13,290 --> 02:40:16,890
over the top. Because there's a
moment in time you catch the

2620
02:40:16,890 --> 02:40:19,410
guys when they have to pay to
get Yeah, or whatever. And this

2621
02:40:19,410 --> 02:40:23,040
is that all deals are like this.
And then somewhere down the line

2622
02:40:23,040 --> 02:40:25,860
when you're not needed anymore.
And the bookkeeper comes in and

2623
02:40:25,860 --> 02:40:33,750
says, What is this guy's done?
And you're done. Right? And this

2624
02:40:33,750 --> 02:40:38,310
is Leo has been coasting on that
CacheFly thing. I have

2625
02:40:38,310 --> 02:40:43,140
a version of this right now. You
know, the, the company in LA is

2626
02:40:43,140 --> 02:40:45,090
in you know, they're, they're
tightening their belt and

2627
02:40:45,090 --> 02:40:47,700
they're, you know, looking for
something to happen and stuff

2628
02:40:47,700 --> 02:40:50,640
going on. And, you know, all of
a sudden, it's like, well, you

2629
02:40:50,640 --> 02:40:53,730
know, the cell phone. Yeah, no,
you you're not going to pay for

2630
02:40:53,730 --> 02:40:59,670
that anyway. Yeah. Have you
heard of Cobra you know, these

2631
02:40:59,670 --> 02:41:04,470
things happen. It's life. You
provide value, you know, things

2632
02:41:04,500 --> 02:41:07,140
go the way you want. They don't
go. It's You're right. It's like

2633
02:41:07,140 --> 02:41:10,410
the writer thing is like
everything. Somebody has to pay

2634
02:41:10,410 --> 02:41:11,130
somewhere.

2635
02:41:11,430 --> 02:41:15,180
Yeah. And then when the bean
counters come in, that's what

2636
02:41:15,180 --> 02:41:20,160
they do. They don't care.
Alright, speaking. So Leo has a

2637
02:41:20,190 --> 02:41:22,470
because when I'm I always sit
next to him narrow it down on

2638
02:41:22,470 --> 02:41:24,930
that show. And he really has a
look

2639
02:41:24,960 --> 02:41:29,070
of disdain disgust and me,

2640
02:41:29,100 --> 02:41:32,790
you know, he has a look up beer.
Yeah, he does. Yeah, it's a very

2641
02:41:32,790 --> 02:41:36,810
slight look of this is not good.
He knows is going to eat into

2642
02:41:36,810 --> 02:41:40,410
his bottom line. He's got Lisa
who's really running the show.

2643
02:41:40,410 --> 02:41:44,250
And she's, you know, not a
spendthrift. And she said, Look,

2644
02:41:44,250 --> 02:41:49,500
we can't we were gonna just one
last vacation. One thing we can

2645
02:41:49,500 --> 02:41:50,370
do now to sell

2646
02:41:50,370 --> 02:41:55,710
the Audi one we're going to do
is sell the Audi. Yeah, and I'm

2647
02:41:55,710 --> 02:41:58,590
not going to bust you on the not
getting not wanting to get into

2648
02:41:58,590 --> 02:42:03,330
the podcast patent thing. You
backed out of that?

2649
02:42:04,620 --> 02:42:07,380
Oh, well, no, actually, that's
interesting. You should bring

2650
02:42:07,380 --> 02:42:09,570
that up because we have to talk
about that now. Not on this

2651
02:42:09,570 --> 02:42:12,390
show. I don't want to talk about
it. We'll talk about it. I

2652
02:42:12,390 --> 02:42:16,500
talked to Lisa about you always
told me to go in there and find

2653
02:42:16,500 --> 02:42:23,220
what the hell's going on. Yeah.
And that they're not supposed to

2654
02:42:23,220 --> 02:42:27,660
talk about it. So what their
lawyer said don't talk about

2655
02:42:27,660 --> 02:42:29,820
this you know, just just not
talk about it. There's more

2656
02:42:29,820 --> 02:42:32,280
details for selling you know, we
can talk about later it's gotten

2657
02:42:32,280 --> 02:42:35,130
it's I don't want to you know, I
understand how it gets business

2658
02:42:35,130 --> 02:42:38,610
or anything. Nobody said that to
me and then Leo brings it up I

2659
02:42:38,610 --> 02:42:42,450
just said we're not talking
about Okay. Oh, just I was just

2660
02:42:42,450 --> 02:42:43,440
working for the company.

2661
02:42:43,470 --> 02:42:46,830
Oh all right. No, because
because the chaton was like it

2662
02:42:46,830 --> 02:42:50,370
curries a dick. He's against the
podcast troll?

2663
02:42:51,060 --> 02:42:56,100
Which of course I was working I
was all in operation when I did

2664
02:42:56,100 --> 02:42:58,290
that. It was like you were told

2665
02:42:58,290 --> 02:43:00,900
by Lisa to shut up and not talk
about it and Leo brings it up

2666
02:43:00,900 --> 02:43:03,120
you're like No, we're not
talking about it. Right God

2667
02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:06,330
Exactly. Good man. Well, good.
You saved him.

2668
02:43:07,290 --> 02:43:11,070
Well, yeah, he should have he
should be talking about

2669
02:43:11,220 --> 02:43:14,040
I'm so happy the best part is
it's very kind of you. You could

2670
02:43:14,040 --> 02:43:16,170
have gotten a cheap shot in
there but you save the

2671
02:43:16,410 --> 02:43:18,330
company man when it comes down
to it.

2672
02:43:18,510 --> 02:43:21,990
I'm gonna show my school by
donate to no agenda Imagine all

2673
02:43:21,990 --> 02:43:24,540
the people who could do that. Oh
yeah, that'd be fun

2674
02:43:31,800 --> 02:43:35,940
we do have some people to thank
for show 617 which is you got a

2675
02:43:35,940 --> 02:43:38,940
six any add six plus when you
get seven there's opportunities

2676
02:43:38,940 --> 02:43:45,270
here. Yes, sir. Danis crews.
Wait, he's back. Yeah, Dan man

2677
02:43:45,270 --> 02:43:48,150
is back again. No, no, I'm
sorry. You I just thought you

2678
02:43:48,150 --> 02:43:52,050
give an extra plug. No, Todd,
Tim, Kate and Margaret mckernon.

2679
02:43:52,290 --> 02:43:56,280
in Roanoke, Virginia, who sent
in an acute note ever hand

2680
02:43:56,280 --> 02:43:59,700
written on a card. This is card
day. This is like we get the two

2681
02:43:59,940 --> 02:44:04,050
requests for the one clip and
now we have two cards coming in

2682
02:44:04,530 --> 02:44:07,710
a hand written in longhand. Oh
no. I assume this would be

2683
02:44:07,710 --> 02:44:11,190
Margaret good road maybe Katie
because no guy writes like this

2684
02:44:11,760 --> 02:44:14,940
Dear John Adams just sending in
some value for value even though

2685
02:44:14,940 --> 02:44:21,450
club 33 is no more yes or no
more our favour I can read it

2686
02:44:22,530 --> 02:44:26,430
blah blah blah may issue $111
maybe make it rain here in

2687
02:44:26,430 --> 02:44:29,850
Roanoke to sustain our vegetable
garden we have been we should do

2688
02:44:29,850 --> 02:44:30,240
those.

2689
02:44:30,360 --> 02:44:33,000
Do you have a range? I didn't
bring rain stick man. Oh, I can

2690
02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:34,710
do the range. I do the rain
stick well I got a glass

2691
02:44:37,380 --> 02:44:42,750
let's see here we go for
Roanoke. Should be in better

2692
02:44:42,750 --> 02:44:43,950
fidelity with his mic

2693
02:44:49,620 --> 02:44:53,550
Yep. We have been almost
completely unsuccessful in the

2694
02:44:53,550 --> 02:44:56,610
attempts to hit people in the
mouth. Yeah, it's hardly in

2695
02:44:56,610 --> 02:45:02,070
Virginia. Our only convert our
only convert is our 10 year old

2696
02:45:02,070 --> 02:45:08,970
butter. Oh, Margaret. She comes
home from her government school

2697
02:45:08,970 --> 02:45:14,610
each day tells us what she
learned and asked us to tell her

2698
02:45:14,610 --> 02:45:20,280
the truth. Oh, wow. We call it
the D education Thursday. Ah,

2699
02:45:20,550 --> 02:45:25,500
keep up the good work. Isn't
that interesting but weird.

2700
02:45:25,620 --> 02:45:30,750
Hey, are you familiar with the
key beaky. Now? Wow. Let's see

2701
02:45:30,750 --> 02:45:40,020
beaky. It's a Suntory whisky.
717 year old Centauri whiskey.

2702
02:45:40,410 --> 02:45:44,520
Yeah. What about it? He beaky.
Well they mastered left the

2703
02:45:44,550 --> 02:45:46,410
city. Here's a bottle you need
to drink that.

2704
02:45:46,530 --> 02:45:51,180
Oh, God, love 17. Centauri. No,
I have half a bottle now. Oh,

2705
02:45:51,300 --> 02:45:52,440
oh, you drank half good.
Alright.

2706
02:45:54,720 --> 02:45:58,920
This is really good stuff that's
ending. It's very outstanding

2707
02:45:58,920 --> 02:45:59,490
product.

2708
02:46:00,179 --> 02:46:05,099
Suntory makes a good product. A
lot of Bordeaux vineyards they

2709
02:46:05,429 --> 02:46:08,249
they bring Scott they own some
scotch distilleries and they

2710
02:46:08,249 --> 02:46:10,979
make your own they do their own
blending the sun Dupree label

2711
02:46:11,009 --> 02:46:15,839
I'm drinking right now as we
have to be very, very good

2712
02:46:15,839 --> 02:46:16,349
company.

2713
02:46:16,380 --> 02:46:20,640
I'm drinking it as we speak and
the time is 2:37am

2714
02:46:21,330 --> 02:46:25,770
Anthony dismore in Springfield,
Missouri $101.01. He does send a

2715
02:46:25,770 --> 02:46:28,200
note I will read notes when they
send in like this sometimes,

2716
02:46:28,470 --> 02:46:30,450
especially if they're short.
I've been listening a few months

2717
02:46:30,510 --> 02:46:35,250
and love your programme, but the
clip show blew me away. If this

2718
02:46:35,250 --> 02:46:38,400
is the calibre of media geek
deconstruction and analysis you

2719
02:46:38,430 --> 02:46:41,550
always provide I would be remiss
not to provide some value for

2720
02:46:41,550 --> 02:46:45,390
value. Just take my money and
keep up the good work.

2721
02:46:45,420 --> 02:46:50,430
It's funny on the plane ride,
which was door to door 18 hours,

2722
02:46:50,430 --> 02:46:54,810
but the flight from Atlanta was
13 and a half. Yeah, and I've

2723
02:46:54,810 --> 02:47:00,060
had the my dog catcher app on
the Android tablet and I liked

2724
02:47:00,060 --> 02:47:04,080
the tablet because it has a huge
battery life. So I was listening

2725
02:47:04,080 --> 02:47:08,730
to DHA unplugged and behead died
on a Tarpley or something, and I

2726
02:47:08,730 --> 02:47:15,000
kind of slipped to sleep. We got
Yeah, you got me. But I woke up

2727
02:47:15,000 --> 02:47:20,010
and it was the clip show. And it
was I have to say was good. I

2728
02:47:20,010 --> 02:47:22,380
totally agree. The clip show
right there was some stuff in

2729
02:47:22,380 --> 02:47:27,270
there like wow. Yeah, it was
Ramsey did a great job on that

2730
02:47:27,270 --> 02:47:31,200
was a good good friend. But you
know, it's us, dude. We have a

2731
02:47:31,200 --> 02:47:34,140
very funny show, dude. Okay,
dude, dude.

2732
02:47:35,190 --> 02:47:39,240
We do good work. It you know,
and we have normal

2733
02:47:39,240 --> 02:47:42,570
conversations, too. It's not
like we're just completely doing

2734
02:47:42,570 --> 02:47:45,120
this constantly without chatting
about certain things. I'm

2735
02:47:45,150 --> 02:47:51,390
dicking around on the email. I
can tell. Sorry, because I got

2736
02:47:51,390 --> 02:47:53,760
some things here. I can't read
out because I don't have any

2737
02:47:53,760 --> 02:47:58,200
Urbandale studios ek in
Freiburg, Germany Deutschland.

2738
02:47:58,290 --> 02:48:01,440
I've been to Freiburg very nice
place it's in the Black Forest.

2739
02:48:01,890 --> 02:48:07,770
$100.33 He's got a note
somewhere I can't find Maria and

2740
02:48:07,770 --> 02:48:12,390
Elaine Rao in Anchorage, Alaska.
$100. Matthew Anderson and

2741
02:48:12,390 --> 02:48:19,890
Rosaline Dale Massachusetts nuts
$100. Yes, three of those nine

2742
02:48:19,890 --> 02:48:24,420
or nine year Niners stash cough
Vladimir stash cough in Russia

2743
02:48:24,450 --> 02:48:28,260
may z have a note here just got
something.

2744
02:48:29,160 --> 02:48:31,920
In The Morning John would like
to remind freeloading boners out

2745
02:48:31,920 --> 02:48:34,470
there to donate to the show as
it is science scientifically

2746
02:48:34,470 --> 02:48:37,260
proven fact you are not fully
immune to the mainstream

2747
02:48:37,260 --> 02:48:41,490
propaganda until you become a
regular donor to the show. Until

2748
02:48:41,490 --> 02:48:44,250
then boneheads who have yet to
donate donate should feel like a

2749
02:48:44,250 --> 02:48:50,370
Dutch retard from a famous city
of crusted but where everyone

2750
02:48:50,370 --> 02:48:53,010
speaks disingenuous and
extremely offensive dialect of

2751
02:48:53,010 --> 02:48:57,180
Chinese. Not sure what that
means. I don't either by the

2752
02:48:57,180 --> 02:48:59,490
way, Preston bluff. This is
where they keep the plane and

2753
02:48:59,490 --> 02:49:03,690
the Nigerian girls. Could you
please give me some appropriate

2754
02:49:03,690 --> 02:49:06,780
nine or nine or karma to get
into German university? Yes,

2755
02:49:06,780 --> 02:49:08,970
well, you got the Niner Niner
and we'll give you karma at the

2756
02:49:08,970 --> 02:49:10,620
end with everyone else.
Absolutely. Irwin,

2757
02:49:10,770 --> 02:49:13,500
Irwin Owens, Jr. and Alameda,
California. Right down the

2758
02:49:13,500 --> 02:49:17,850
street Daggett actually waved to
him 9999 Paulina Spencer also

2759
02:49:17,850 --> 02:49:20,460
nein nein nein nein Nein. She's
from London and we gotta call

2760
02:49:20,460 --> 02:49:26,520
out for birthday here. Dutchman
living in London makes everyone

2761
02:49:26,520 --> 02:49:29,940
listen to your show, including
me drives me mad. I'm a douche

2762
02:49:29,940 --> 02:49:39,240
bag. She says Brian Williams in
Streamwood, Illinois 7373 and he

2763
02:49:39,390 --> 02:49:44,190
that comes in monthly he's
actually donate 7373 Every month

2764
02:49:44,250 --> 02:49:48,960
by cheque through his bank. Very
nice. Andrew otter in Wahoo,

2765
02:49:48,990 --> 02:49:53,100
Nebraska 60. William will like
us know the thanks for

2766
02:49:53,100 --> 02:49:54,900
the entertaining and informative
show.

2767
02:49:55,710 --> 02:50:02,700
That's Yes, that is William
White. From Honea path South

2768
02:50:02,700 --> 02:50:06,780
Carolina 5432 And he says after
a long, long bout of

2769
02:50:06,780 --> 02:50:10,650
douchebaggery I doubt this one
will deduce me but here's a

2770
02:50:10,650 --> 02:50:14,040
start. Okay. Upstate South
Carolina, wherever that means.

2771
02:50:14,310 --> 02:50:18,180
Thomas J. Riley Wheaton,
Illinois, will also comes in

2772
02:50:18,180 --> 02:50:25,200
from the bank, Cameron Smith and
one grey, New Zealand. James

2773
02:50:25,200 --> 02:50:30,660
Thompson Cherrydale. Somewhere
Oh, Kansas, sorry, Kansas in the

2774
02:50:30,660 --> 02:50:35,340
USA. Brett yo, Baltimore,
Maryland. 5028 and the following

2775
02:50:35,670 --> 02:50:40,290
are all $50 donors. Let me just
scroll down to them, including

2776
02:50:40,290 --> 02:50:42,990
the first one which has some
sort of weird character. He

2777
02:50:42,990 --> 02:50:47,310
Kitteh Galois. He's in Japan and
says Sweden, but I believe he is

2778
02:50:47,340 --> 02:50:47,940
in

2779
02:50:48,180 --> 02:50:50,370
San Francisco. I have here no it

2780
02:50:51,720 --> 02:50:54,330
all right. Well, I'm looking at
the wrong one. You're right. He

2781
02:50:54,330 --> 02:50:59,640
is in San Francisco. And then
Eric Johnson is in somewhere in

2782
02:50:59,640 --> 02:51:04,260
Sweden. 50 bucks and he wants
you to take some iodine pills

2783
02:51:04,260 --> 02:51:07,050
while you're there. Chris
Lewinsky and Sherwood Park

2784
02:51:07,050 --> 02:51:10,050
Alberta common donor that's
where all the money is it Chris

2785
02:51:10,410 --> 02:51:15,720
T Timothy Cayman Cayman Cayman
ke e i m a n and Bellevue

2786
02:51:15,720 --> 02:51:19,440
michigan 50. These are all 50s
Taylor Bentley and Tacoma

2787
02:51:19,440 --> 02:51:24,120
Washington brand and Seth why?
Parts Unknown Mike Westerfield.

2788
02:51:25,800 --> 02:51:29,460
I don't know where he's comes in
every month with 50 Patricia

2789
02:51:29,460 --> 02:51:33,330
Worthington in Miami Beach or
Miami, sorry, just Miami, Walter

2790
02:51:33,330 --> 02:51:36,540
grant the fourth in Moreno
Valley. And finally, another

2791
02:51:36,540 --> 02:51:42,390
regular Kevin or Sir Kevin
Payne, in Chantilly, Virginia,

2792
02:51:43,590 --> 02:51:45,960
who apparently was one of those
Virginians hit in the mouth,

2793
02:51:45,960 --> 02:51:49,830
which I guess is a problem in
some parts of Virginia like

2794
02:51:49,830 --> 02:51:55,890
Roanoke. And that concludes our
donors for show 617 We do have

2795
02:51:55,890 --> 02:51:59,130
people that donate less than
$50, which are kept anonymous

2796
02:51:59,130 --> 02:52:02,010
and want to thank them and
everyone else and remind you to

2797
02:52:02,010 --> 02:52:04,800
go to dvorak.org/na for the
Sunday show.

2798
02:52:04,890 --> 02:52:07,650
Thank you. And I'd like to give
some karma out to everyone who

2799
02:52:07,650 --> 02:52:11,310
needs it. In fact, let me make
that job karma. Although no one

2800
02:52:11,310 --> 02:52:18,150
requested it. Typically, people
need that. I heard on this, this

2801
02:52:18,150 --> 02:52:22,680
Devorah Horowitz unplugged
podcast that 800,000 People just

2802
02:52:22,680 --> 02:52:27,450
disappeared off the face of the
earth. Which brought her on

2803
02:52:27,450 --> 02:52:29,970
unemployment numbers down, but
we don't know where those

2804
02:52:29,970 --> 02:52:31,410
800,000 people went

2805
02:52:31,890 --> 02:52:34,110
there on the streets of San
Francisco from what I can tell.

2806
02:52:34,680 --> 02:52:35,520
So we got some

2807
02:52:36,180 --> 02:52:40,260
jobs karma also special karma
for Mr. Oil and his family. They

2808
02:52:40,260 --> 02:52:44,070
had a tragic event this morning.
And so we're thinking of them

2809
02:52:44,070 --> 02:52:46,740
and giving them lots of karma as

2810
02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:54,630
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. Karma.

2811
02:52:55,920 --> 02:53:00,390
And I'd also like to thank frale
net because they did discount us

2812
02:53:00,390 --> 02:53:03,870
and considered a donation for
$150 which they should have been

2813
02:53:03,870 --> 02:53:06,540
on the list. Very cool. Very put
it as a total.

2814
02:53:06,690 --> 02:53:09,390
Alright, so no nights no
nothing. We got nothing.

2815
02:53:09,450 --> 02:53:12,750
Nothing. Yeah, birthdays. Yeah,
we got birthdays. But I would

2816
02:53:12,750 --> 02:53:15,960
like to see some more. I mean,
here we are. I think we're

2817
02:53:15,960 --> 02:53:18,690
providing the value for you.
It's a quarter to three in

2818
02:53:18,720 --> 02:53:22,410
Tokyo. And tomorrow Of course,
there's a big party which I'll

2819
02:53:22,410 --> 02:53:23,520
tell you about in a moment.

2820
02:53:23,580 --> 02:53:30,330
so.org/a.

2821
02:53:38,010 --> 02:53:41,040
Pretty shirtless Brett yo says
Happy Birthday to his bestie his

2822
02:53:41,040 --> 02:53:44,850
bestie Matt 28 on the 13th so
this is a belated birthday.

2823
02:53:44,910 --> 02:53:48,660
Polina Spencer's Happy Birthday
to Edwin Luxenberg. Looked in

2824
02:53:48,660 --> 02:53:52,800
Bern, he'll be celebrating on
the 27th and margen. dealer says

2825
02:53:52,800 --> 02:53:57,660
Happy Birthday to boy friend,
Nick. He turns 22 Today happy

2826
02:53:57,660 --> 02:54:00,570
birthday from all of your
buddies, yet the best podcast in

2827
02:54:00,780 --> 02:54:06,360
the universe. I love it when
when women are given their men,

2828
02:54:07,350 --> 02:54:11,970
the shout outs and donations and
birthday stuff. It's nice.

2829
02:54:12,720 --> 02:54:18,270
I want to mention something to
the letter from Vladimir. Yes,

2830
02:54:18,300 --> 02:54:22,800
in Russia. Yes, there is a we
have to emphasise this a little

2831
02:54:22,800 --> 02:54:25,380
bit. People that I know people
that have said they listened to

2832
02:54:25,380 --> 02:54:27,450
the show, and then they think
they've got it. They figured it

2833
02:54:27,450 --> 02:54:30,630
all out. And then they some of
them stop listening to the show.

2834
02:54:30,810 --> 02:54:35,580
Oh, yeah, we lose listeners. We
have people that we have a lot

2835
02:54:35,580 --> 02:54:38,040
of new listeners, but there are
people that need. I just wanna

2836
02:54:38,040 --> 02:54:42,810
remind people that you, there's
revelations in every one of

2837
02:54:42,810 --> 02:54:45,870
these shows that sometimes I
provide them, Adam provides them

2838
02:54:45,870 --> 02:54:49,710
very consistently. And when I
hear them myself and think, Ah,

2839
02:54:49,740 --> 02:54:53,160
I didn't even think of that. And
that is kind of the real one of

2840
02:54:53,160 --> 02:54:56,070
the values of the show, which is
ah, I didn't even think of that.

2841
02:54:56,070 --> 02:54:59,820
So obvious, right, right. And
that happens commonly with the

2842
02:54:59,820 --> 02:55:02,640
show. But the reason you didn't
think of it because you if you

2843
02:55:02,640 --> 02:55:06,270
stop listening to no agenda you
get you get complacent will be

2844
02:55:06,270 --> 02:55:10,710
sucked back and mess Yep. And
you will have this you know you

2845
02:55:10,710 --> 02:55:13,920
will be just another slave out
there just bumbling around wake

2846
02:55:13,920 --> 02:55:14,100
up

2847
02:55:14,100 --> 02:55:16,290
you'll wake up one day and
you're like oh my god I'm

2848
02:55:16,290 --> 02:55:20,430
getting turned on by Kim
Kardashians fat ass and you lost

2849
02:55:20,430 --> 02:55:21,030
you gone?

2850
02:55:22,770 --> 02:55:25,080
Do you know what your stick with
the show is? It's good for you.

2851
02:55:25,110 --> 02:55:28,350
It's a very healthy Show. Show
it's good for it's a good diet

2852
02:55:28,350 --> 02:55:31,410
show everything but it's good to
use it. Listen to it on the gym.

2853
02:55:32,070 --> 02:55:36,660
I'm talking to Sir Mark and
DeMasters. Now these two, when

2854
02:55:36,660 --> 02:55:40,770
you see the work they've done.
You see this? Did you I don't

2855
02:55:40,770 --> 02:55:45,810
know if you saw the blog post
that I did about the it's a

2856
02:55:45,840 --> 02:55:49,920
bookstore but it's not. This
place is like a mega complex,

2857
02:55:50,250 --> 02:55:54,810
which is a restaurant it's a
coffee bar. It's a it's it's a

2858
02:55:54,810 --> 02:55:59,430
bar, it's a library. It's a It's
iTunes, it's an Apple store,

2859
02:55:59,430 --> 02:56:03,210
it's people go hang out things
open, you know, 20 hours a day.

2860
02:56:03,780 --> 02:56:10,140
And this is huge project. And
they are no slouches. These are

2861
02:56:10,140 --> 02:56:13,920
big, big shots. Yeah. Although
in Tokyo or Japan in general. No

2862
02:56:13,920 --> 02:56:16,530
one's a big shot. Everyone plays
it down. Like yeah, whatever.

2863
02:56:16,530 --> 02:56:17,550
It's a team that was

2864
02:56:17,580 --> 02:56:20,370
very nail it gets hammered down
kind of thing. Yeah.

2865
02:56:20,970 --> 02:56:24,000
DeMasters also says, oh, no, we
couldn't do this great work if

2866
02:56:24,000 --> 02:56:30,180
we didn't have a great client
like wow. I always said we'd

2867
02:56:30,180 --> 02:56:37,050
have a great business if we had
no clients could. But but they

2868
02:56:37,050 --> 02:56:41,250
do not watch news. They don't
good for them. No, they don't

2869
02:56:41,250 --> 02:56:43,830
watch news. They listened. They
figured what we didn't know. And

2870
02:56:43,830 --> 02:56:46,410
by the way, they don't
necessarily they're not I think

2871
02:56:46,410 --> 02:56:50,400
DeMasters more on board with
certainly my thinking. But our

2872
02:56:50,400 --> 02:56:54,450
thinking and I think Sir Mark is
may not even agree with a lot of

2873
02:56:54,450 --> 02:56:59,730
stuff, but but they use our
programme to keep themselves

2874
02:56:59,730 --> 02:57:04,860
sane, without being sucked into
the whole system of the new

2875
02:57:04,860 --> 02:57:09,570
cycle. And in fact, when pressed
upon it, they said that we

2876
02:57:09,570 --> 02:57:13,440
definitely are influential in
their award winning

2877
02:57:13,440 --> 02:57:14,550
architectural design.

2878
02:57:14,970 --> 02:57:18,780
Well, that's weak. It's not
true. But it's a lot of people

2879
02:57:18,870 --> 02:57:19,050
if

2880
02:57:19,050 --> 02:57:22,500
I said, Hey, do we influence
your award winning architectural

2881
02:57:22,500 --> 02:57:25,740
design? Yeah, shear curry.

2882
02:57:25,830 --> 02:57:28,860
Sanity is like one of the things
that we noticed the people

2883
02:57:29,190 --> 02:57:33,630
thanking us for in these notes.
The I noticed that when we had

2884
02:57:33,630 --> 02:57:38,730
the last contribution from the
anonymous lesbian performance

2885
02:57:38,730 --> 02:57:43,260
artists Yes. The bombers a
little note on the on the check

2886
02:57:44,010 --> 02:57:48,810
it it said sanity, ah. Because
that's what we provide. You're

2887
02:57:48,810 --> 02:57:52,350
paying us for sanity. Because
it's insane. If you don't

2888
02:57:52,710 --> 02:57:55,410
deconstruct these stories, and
just listen to the mainstream

2889
02:57:55,410 --> 02:57:59,160
media, feeding you crap, feeding
you means

2890
02:57:59,190 --> 02:58:03,330
parental, for instance, there's
this meme. And this is a

2891
02:58:03,330 --> 02:58:06,870
typical, no agenda, thinking and
analysis. There's an ongoing

2892
02:58:06,870 --> 02:58:10,590
meme about endless conferences
and you see the stories of

2893
02:58:10,590 --> 02:58:15,360
robots and being autonomous and
killer robots and the

2894
02:58:15,360 --> 02:58:18,000
transhumanist robots and
everyone's talking about have

2895
02:58:18,000 --> 02:58:20,820
you seen these stories? Yeah,
it's grey tonnes of them right

2896
02:58:20,820 --> 02:58:26,070
now. Why are they happening
right now? Because on the 28th,

2897
02:58:26,160 --> 02:58:31,260
the 23rd of May a new movie Yes.
X Men Days of Future Past, which

2898
02:58:31,260 --> 02:58:35,730
is about robots gone bizarre
robots. Yeah. And you once you

2899
02:58:35,730 --> 02:58:39,450
understand how the system works,
and that first and foremost,

2900
02:58:39,480 --> 02:58:42,690
everything on television and in
the news is meant to promote

2901
02:58:42,720 --> 02:58:46,710
another entertainment product.
It's also funny because when I

2902
02:58:46,710 --> 02:58:49,200
was hunting around, and there's
a new Transformers movie coming

2903
02:58:49,200 --> 02:58:53,130
out as well, and I'm getting all
the robots i Yes, I'm getting

2904
02:58:53,130 --> 02:58:56,880
all the Japanese pre rolls.
Yeah. Which is kind of cute.

2905
02:58:56,880 --> 02:58:59,490
kind of cute. Here's here's what
I got for the Transformers

2906
02:58:59,490 --> 02:59:07,440
movie. And you can just hear the
the dispassionate energy that

2907
02:59:07,440 --> 02:59:10,740
was put into this promo of
transformers. Oh, Japan,

2908
02:59:10,740 --> 02:59:13,710
Mark Wahlberg. Here. Go check
out my latest film transformers

2909
02:59:13,710 --> 02:59:17,130
last Age. It has tonnes of
action, some new characters, and

2910
02:59:17,130 --> 02:59:19,740
it's full of effects that you've
never seen before. It opens in

2911
02:59:19,740 --> 02:59:21,480
Japan in August. Don't miss it.

2912
02:59:22,590 --> 02:59:27,930
Alright, market we're doing the
Spanish market next. Hello,

2913
02:59:27,930 --> 02:59:28,830
Mexico.

2914
02:59:30,180 --> 02:59:36,150
Really? They do. Wow. Brought up
movies. Yes, I do have and this

2915
02:59:36,150 --> 02:59:38,580
time I'm trying to make it easy
on you. And I don't want you to

2916
02:59:38,580 --> 02:59:42,660
look into the chat room because
this is what

2917
02:59:43,050 --> 02:59:45,960
I'm off the chat room so there's
no there's no way I can.

2918
02:59:46,830 --> 02:59:51,390
So I'm gonna give you an easy
guest the movie for today. This

2919
02:59:51,390 --> 02:59:54,180
is something I do about once a
month maybe once on a

2920
02:59:54,180 --> 02:59:58,230
second. Hold on. Let's just
queue up. It's time for

2921
02:59:58,230 --> 02:59:59,970
another episode of guests.

2922
03:00:04,920 --> 03:00:07,290
Do you need to set it up? Or can
I just now it's

2923
03:00:07,530 --> 03:00:08,640
pretty self explanatory.

2924
03:00:09,600 --> 03:00:11,460
I'm making sloppy joes for
dinner.

2925
03:00:12,900 --> 03:00:17,280
I can't stay for dinner. Or you
got to eat. Why do you think we

2926
03:00:17,280 --> 03:00:20,610
call them pecker never did eat
properly as a child just picked

2927
03:00:20,610 --> 03:00:24,210
that as food. Well, I'm not
hungry and besides, I'm late for

2928
03:00:24,210 --> 03:00:27,030
my photoshoot with Tina Packer.

2929
03:00:27,090 --> 03:00:30,840
We love your big sister. But you
know how we feel about that

2930
03:00:30,840 --> 03:00:33,570
place where she works at Devil's
workshop.

2931
03:00:36,540 --> 03:00:38,550
Well, at least they don't show
pubic hair. That's one good

2932
03:00:38,550 --> 03:00:48,090
thing I can say. Honey Don't see
pubic. Percy Okay, Okay, Bye,

2933
03:00:48,090 --> 03:00:49,860
dad. It'll be too late Packer

2934
03:00:51,870 --> 03:00:57,420
This is Yes, I know this one. I
believe this to be happy days

2935
03:00:57,420 --> 03:00:58,050
the movie.

2936
03:00:59,760 --> 03:01:04,560
You know, I've gone out of my
way. This is a segment of the

2937
03:01:04,560 --> 03:01:07,620
show that I believe is important
because it adds a little light

2938
03:01:07,740 --> 03:01:11,670
levity, and you always fail to
guess the name of the movies. I

2939
03:01:11,880 --> 03:01:14,640
don't think you're taking it
seriously. This time. I gave you

2940
03:01:14,640 --> 03:01:15,390
every hint

2941
03:01:16,110 --> 03:01:18,090
that it must be called pecker or
something. That's

2942
03:01:18,270 --> 03:01:22,710
exactly hacker. I don't know why
it's called pecker. You never

2943
03:01:22,710 --> 03:01:23,280
get up? I've

2944
03:01:23,280 --> 03:01:24,120
never heard of this

2945
03:01:24,120 --> 03:01:27,090
movie. Yes, it was on epics.

2946
03:01:28,140 --> 03:01:33,150
Never heard of this movie.
Before for another episode, I

2947
03:01:33,270 --> 03:01:33,660
guess.

2948
03:01:34,560 --> 03:01:37,530
It's interesting. You bring that
up because I felt that I really

2949
03:01:37,530 --> 03:01:40,740
did need to brush up on some of
my movies skills. And there's a

2950
03:01:40,740 --> 03:01:44,130
number of movies. I realised I'm
really suck at this. And it's

2951
03:01:44,130 --> 03:01:48,360
because I don't watch a lot of
movies. On the plane. We had

2952
03:01:48,360 --> 03:01:53,070
Delta. Horrible. Yeah, not a
good experience. Just

2953
03:01:53,070 --> 03:01:56,790
to interrupt you. I seem to get
most of my intense movie viewing

2954
03:01:56,790 --> 03:02:00,150
on planes. Yeah, you get to
watch three or four movies on a

2955
03:02:00,210 --> 03:02:01,740
flight to Japan. Yeah, so

2956
03:02:01,740 --> 03:02:07,110
I watched I know I had seen it
but I couldn't remember I

2957
03:02:07,110 --> 03:02:08,520
watched taxi driver.

2958
03:02:10,470 --> 03:02:11,910
oldies, but goodies. Yeah,

2959
03:02:11,910 --> 03:02:15,540
they have this of back
catalogue. It's on demand. And

2960
03:02:16,530 --> 03:02:19,560
it was not as good as I
remembered or man that just like

2961
03:02:19,560 --> 03:02:20,340
whatever.

2962
03:02:20,580 --> 03:02:23,970
You looking at me? Yeah, but
that, you know, you're talking

2963
03:02:23,970 --> 03:02:24,600
to me, too. I

2964
03:02:24,600 --> 03:02:28,050
know all of those classic
scenes, but when you see them in

2965
03:02:28,050 --> 03:02:33,480
the movie, like, Ah, all right,
not all that great. Although I'd

2966
03:02:33,480 --> 03:02:38,070
forgotten that. What's your
face? From Moonlighting? Right.

2967
03:02:38,130 --> 03:02:42,150
Yeah, this guy is hot man back
in the day. What else did I

2968
03:02:42,150 --> 03:02:44,310
watched? I watched the Men in
Black three.

2969
03:02:45,360 --> 03:02:47,040
That's a horrible film.

2970
03:02:47,250 --> 03:02:52,140
Yes, that's you are correct. And
what else did I watch? I don't

2971
03:02:52,140 --> 03:02:52,530
remember.

2972
03:02:54,510 --> 03:02:57,630
The best movies to watch on a
plane or the Fast and Furious

2973
03:02:57,630 --> 03:02:58,110
series.

2974
03:02:58,710 --> 03:03:00,060
I'm not gonna watch seriously.

2975
03:03:01,380 --> 03:03:05,250
Let's do a little bit of Snowden
stuff. And then we got to go

2976
03:03:05,250 --> 03:03:08,970
pretty soon. We're running over
over time already. Michael

2977
03:03:08,970 --> 03:03:12,810
Hayden said something very
interesting. In related this was

2978
03:03:12,810 --> 03:03:18,180
on a panel show, he was on the
show with Major Garrett, who was

2979
03:03:18,180 --> 03:03:24,030
moderating, and then some lawyer
and they were talking about a

2980
03:03:24,090 --> 03:03:30,930
think an attorney for the NSA
and talking about metadata. And

2981
03:03:30,930 --> 03:03:36,120
the guy who was clearly invited
to yell at Michael Hayden. I

2982
03:03:36,120 --> 03:03:40,050
think it was an eff type. That
kind of guy was essentially

2983
03:03:40,050 --> 03:03:43,980
saying, Wow, man, metadata is so
much more important. And Peter

2984
03:03:43,980 --> 03:03:47,280
Baker, this attorney had said
this, that, you know, we don't

2985
03:03:47,280 --> 03:03:50,220
need to listen to the content of
your phone call. Metadata is

2986
03:03:50,220 --> 03:03:53,670
really what's important. That
really tells us about your life

2987
03:03:53,670 --> 03:03:55,650
about who you're calling, what
time you call them, how often

2988
03:03:55,650 --> 03:03:57,750
you call them. And it's much
more important than the drivel

2989
03:03:57,750 --> 03:04:00,330
you're actually saying on the
call, to which Michael Hayden

2990
03:04:00,330 --> 03:04:06,090
responds. And Michael Hayden, of
course, ran the NSA. And did he

2991
03:04:06,090 --> 03:04:06,600
also run the

2992
03:04:06,600 --> 03:04:10,590
CIA? Yes, during the torture
period? Yeah. He used to torture

2993
03:04:10,620 --> 03:04:13,110
me as a torture guy. And he
shouldn't he should lay low, it

2994
03:04:13,110 --> 03:04:14,550
seems to me but okay, well,

2995
03:04:14,550 --> 03:04:17,160
he's not he's doing anything but
laying low. We heard him on

2996
03:04:17,160 --> 03:04:21,630
that, that show with Dershowitz.
And Dershowitz. And he were

2997
03:04:21,630 --> 03:04:26,400
against the Reddit kid and
Greenwald. And he's just he's

2998
03:04:26,400 --> 03:04:27,990
just going balls to the wall,
man.

2999
03:04:28,020 --> 03:04:32,040
Yeah, first of all, David's
description of what you can do

3000
03:04:32,040 --> 03:04:35,550
with metadata and, quoting a
mutual friend Stuart Baker, is

3001
03:04:35,550 --> 03:04:39,660
absolutely correct. Okay. We
kill people based on metadata.

3002
03:04:40,770 --> 03:04:41,580
All righty.

3003
03:04:44,340 --> 03:04:47,220
The guy's unbelievable. And then
he says he's saying stuff like

3004
03:04:47,250 --> 03:04:47,700
he follows

3005
03:04:47,700 --> 03:04:48,480
it up with this.

3006
03:04:49,710 --> 03:04:52,800
But that's not what we do with
this metadata. Okay.

3007
03:04:54,930 --> 03:04:55,770
Stuart Baker,

3008
03:04:55,800 --> 03:04:58,920
not Peter, whatever that means.
This guy's insane.

3009
03:04:59,190 --> 03:05:02,130
No, he is totally If he's gone
because he's worried sick about

3010
03:05:02,130 --> 03:05:06,030
this, he's gonna get tried as a
war criminal. He should.

3011
03:05:08,160 --> 03:05:13,020
Grant green rado ravintsara was
on the C span show. Thanks,

3012
03:05:13,020 --> 03:05:16,260
everybody for thinking of us.
Thanks for calling in with your

3013
03:05:16,260 --> 03:05:20,070
question or going, Hey, Grant
green Rao. To see what to do

3014
03:05:20,070 --> 03:05:24,660
that it would have been funny.
The C span columns show it's so

3015
03:05:24,660 --> 03:05:29,250
easy to get on that show. Or
just go. Hey, Greg grey Well,

3016
03:05:29,700 --> 03:05:32,220
no, no, but someone called him
with something funny.

3017
03:05:32,250 --> 03:05:34,350
Chuck waiting in Kansas City,
Missouri.

3018
03:05:34,500 --> 03:05:37,470
On our line for Democrats.
Chuck, good morning. Hey, good

3019
03:05:37,470 --> 03:05:41,070
morning, guys. Go ahead. Oh,
yeah, I want to do I want to ask

3020
03:05:41,610 --> 03:05:43,590
if we can address the
surveillance state unless we

3021
03:05:43,590 --> 03:05:46,230
address the issue surrounding
what is used to justify the work

3022
03:05:46,230 --> 03:05:48,420
that we're journalists writing
about the evidence explosives

3023
03:05:48,420 --> 03:05:51,060
destroyed the third tower
building seven on 911 and all

3024
03:05:51,060 --> 03:05:54,450
the 1000s and Chuck, we're gonna
hold off on the 911 questions.

3025
03:05:57,030 --> 03:05:57,690
Were talking to

3026
03:06:03,960 --> 03:06:07,230
questions about WT seven TC
seven won't go away.

3027
03:06:08,940 --> 03:06:11,070
I love it though. So funny.

3028
03:06:11,280 --> 03:06:14,430
I got to Eurovision character he
came out and he actually said

3029
03:06:14,430 --> 03:06:18,780
something. Oh, wow. The winner
you know that guy? The lady

3030
03:06:18,780 --> 03:06:19,290
consider

3031
03:06:19,290 --> 03:06:22,110
worst? Yeah. Yeah. You know, we

3032
03:06:23,640 --> 03:06:27,540
we unity, and we are
unstoppable.

3033
03:06:29,940 --> 03:06:32,190
The context has played an
important role in bringing

3034
03:06:32,190 --> 03:06:35,550
Europeans together since it was
first held in 1956.

3035
03:06:37,050 --> 03:06:41,400
We you know who you are. We are
unity. We are unstopped What is

3036
03:06:41,400 --> 03:06:42,540
he talking about?

3037
03:06:43,410 --> 03:06:47,550
I think the Antarctic ice melt
is unstoppable. So maybe that I

3038
03:06:47,550 --> 03:06:51,390
said, I didn't realise I didn't
realise that. And maybe this has

3039
03:06:51,390 --> 03:06:54,900
always been this way. Because of
course I'm looking how do they

3040
03:06:54,900 --> 03:06:59,670
rig this? This vote to have this
obvious why this? This Conchita

3041
03:06:59,670 --> 03:07:04,560
worst one? I did not know that
they split the popular vote

3042
03:07:04,560 --> 03:07:07,950
through phone and SMS voting in
each country with a professional

3043
03:07:07,950 --> 03:07:10,830
quote unquote, jury who also
votes.

3044
03:07:12,480 --> 03:07:13,410
Oh, well, that's how

3045
03:07:13,439 --> 03:07:15,929
that's how you do it. I didn't I
didn't vote. I don't know if it

3046
03:07:15,929 --> 03:07:18,419
was always that way. Or if
that's something that's new or

3047
03:07:18,419 --> 03:07:19,619
relatively new,

3048
03:07:20,490 --> 03:07:22,830
and that's when they politicised
it. I'm sure when it began in

3049
03:07:22,830 --> 03:07:26,970
1956. It was there was no call
in anyway, you know, they're

3050
03:07:26,970 --> 03:07:30,540
just, I don't know. They
probably added the call in later

3051
03:07:30,540 --> 03:07:34,110
this American gimmick to rack up
big money for the phone

3052
03:07:34,110 --> 03:07:34,680
companies.

3053
03:07:35,490 --> 03:07:38,790
Just a quick couple of things
that I have on the list and I'll

3054
03:07:38,790 --> 03:07:44,220
save some of this for Sunday
show. A lot of people weirded

3055
03:07:44,220 --> 03:07:48,390
out to say the least about the
new rules that are being I think

3056
03:07:48,390 --> 03:07:50,820
they're being proposed, but
we'll go into effect that looks

3057
03:07:51,090 --> 03:07:55,650
in Gitmo nation east, the United
Kingdom. If you have not paid

3058
03:07:55,650 --> 03:07:58,650
your taxes if you have been
issued several warnings for

3059
03:07:58,650 --> 03:08:02,730
paying your taxes. The British
government now will take the

3060
03:08:02,760 --> 03:08:04,230
amount from your bank account.

3061
03:08:05,730 --> 03:08:07,020
Will they do that here?

3062
03:08:07,830 --> 03:08:11,040
No, they don't they they lock
your bank account and they can

3063
03:08:11,040 --> 03:08:15,480
put a lien on it, but they don't
actually take the amount. It

3064
03:08:15,480 --> 03:08:18,240
comes down to the same thing,
but I think there's a nuance

3065
03:08:18,660 --> 03:08:22,110
there's a slight difference in
just saying oh, we'll just take

3066
03:08:22,110 --> 03:08:22,830
it don't worry about it.

3067
03:08:25,050 --> 03:08:28,980
Usually, you know, if you're not
paying your taxes, it's unlikely

3068
03:08:28,980 --> 03:08:32,880
that you have the taxable amount
sitting in a bank account for

3069
03:08:32,880 --> 03:08:34,770
them to just casually grab
correct

3070
03:08:34,770 --> 03:08:38,550
and I think it's only a setup to
a next step which is just you

3071
03:08:38,550 --> 03:08:40,770
know what, why don't we all just
don't worry about it. We'll just

3072
03:08:40,770 --> 03:08:43,320
take your taxes from your bank
account. That's why I think that

3073
03:08:43,320 --> 03:08:46,500
doing it is just to get set for
that next step.

3074
03:08:47,039 --> 03:08:48,239
Hmm, maybe

3075
03:08:50,610 --> 03:08:53,400
All right, well, you got to go
to bed you got to finish it. You

3076
03:08:53,400 --> 03:08:56,430
got to produce the show. We got
some clips. I got a whole series

3077
03:08:56,430 --> 03:09:00,960
of things. This Cohen guy showed
up again, our professor Dolan.

3078
03:09:00,990 --> 03:09:04,830
Yeah, why are you yeah showed up
on what show did you show up on

3079
03:09:05,130 --> 03:09:07,770
on Democracy Now? Oh, okay. He's
doing the rounds again. He was

3080
03:09:07,770 --> 03:09:09,480
on some radio show

3081
03:09:09,480 --> 03:09:10,560
and the

3082
03:09:10,560 --> 03:09:13,440
democracy now because democracy
now and bring a guest on like

3083
03:09:13,440 --> 03:09:16,290
this. They'll give the guy a
half hour. Yeah, it's not like

3084
03:09:16,290 --> 03:09:19,020
you know, we got 10 minutes like
PBS NewsHour, the guys on it

3085
03:09:19,020 --> 03:09:21,750
makes, you know, to keep it
tight. Keep it tight. Soundbite

3086
03:09:21,750 --> 03:09:26,250
sound by giving it gives, you
know, Democracy Now they drag it

3087
03:09:26,250 --> 03:09:30,090
out. And often it's horribly
boring and stupid. And it goes

3088
03:09:30,090 --> 03:09:33,840
on forever. You don't watch it.
This guy is just loaded with

3089
03:09:33,840 --> 03:09:36,840
material. So I've got a bunch of
clips from him that will just

3090
03:09:36,960 --> 03:09:40,950
make your give us a tease or
sir, my friend. I don't have I

3091
03:09:41,190 --> 03:09:45,090
don't have I don't have a clip.
Okay. All right. I have for

3092
03:09:45,090 --> 03:09:50,730
Sunday show. See, I have a whole
bunch of John Miller clips,

3093
03:09:51,990 --> 03:09:57,780
which is pretty it's very
interesting about al Qaeda and

3094
03:09:57,780 --> 03:10:00,930
what Al Qaeda does and doesn't
do and what you influences them

3095
03:10:00,930 --> 03:10:04,620
and he of course has the
authority being a former NSA

3096
03:10:05,310 --> 03:10:10,110
employee than working at CBS and
soft balling everything and now

3097
03:10:10,110 --> 03:10:13,530
back working for for New York
State New York City, I should

3098
03:10:13,530 --> 03:10:13,830
say.

3099
03:10:14,520 --> 03:10:19,830
Yeah, that guy. The guy who did
the great 60 minutes Yeah, that

3100
03:10:19,830 --> 03:10:23,430
that piece exactly right down of
the NSA, which was just a joke.

3101
03:10:24,420 --> 03:10:27,780
All right, so we will be back on
Sunday. Can we did this time

3102
03:10:27,780 --> 03:10:30,450
work for you this a little
earlier than Yeah, that's fine.

3103
03:10:30,450 --> 03:10:32,670
I can do this time again.
Alright, so the work works great

3104
03:10:32,670 --> 03:10:35,460
for me because now it's three.
By the time I'm done, I'll be in

3105
03:10:35,460 --> 03:10:40,530
bed by 430 asleep at fun you got
a party? Yes. The party. I have

3106
03:10:40,530 --> 03:10:43,200
the flyer right here it is the
5050 party.

3107
03:10:43,500 --> 03:10:45,990
I've got tonight. Friday night.

3108
03:10:45,990 --> 03:10:52,080
Yeah. Oh, performing. DJ Toretto

3109
03:10:53,790 --> 03:10:55,320
is that the DJ? That's

3110
03:10:55,320 --> 03:11:00,720
me. But we have actually we have
some really super acts

3111
03:11:00,720 --> 03:11:05,370
performing this is all at the
super super Luxe super Luxe

3112
03:11:05,370 --> 03:11:06,750
Super Deluxe super.

3113
03:11:07,199 --> 03:11:09,509
I can't get what's the name of
the place? Well,

3114
03:11:09,540 --> 03:11:12,960
yeah, super deluxe in Tokyo that
is actually super market damn

3115
03:11:12,960 --> 03:11:17,130
asteroids. Project they have
they do this like all these

3116
03:11:17,130 --> 03:11:20,880
performances and they do it from
donations is very cool. But most

3117
03:11:20,880 --> 03:11:24,990
importantly, the 5678 from Kill
Bill will be performing. That's

3118
03:11:24,990 --> 03:11:28,560
the Japanese girl band. Yeah,
yeah. They're gonna be

3119
03:11:28,560 --> 03:11:33,570
performing for our birthday. And
it looks like pole dancers. So

3120
03:11:34,740 --> 03:11:35,160
sorry, you

3121
03:11:35,160 --> 03:11:36,450
got a dancer. Yeah, sorry.

3122
03:11:36,450 --> 03:11:37,530
You can't be there. My friend.

3123
03:11:37,590 --> 03:11:41,070
I've seen pole dancers. Yeah, I
know you're on a pole. They

3124
03:11:41,070 --> 03:11:44,010
swing around the pole. They
climb up the pole. They slide

3125
03:11:44,010 --> 03:11:46,500
down the pole. Some of them go
upside down the pole and then

3126
03:11:46,500 --> 03:11:49,890
slide down. I know you and then
they swing out from the pole ran

3127
03:11:49,890 --> 03:11:54,390
the club man. I know. I wonder
what the Yeah, yeah. You ran it

3128
03:11:54,570 --> 03:11:57,180
on the ground by the way. You
know, we don't. Yeah, pole

3129
03:11:57,180 --> 03:11:57,780
dancers.

3130
03:11:58,530 --> 03:12:01,650
You ran this entire club that
worked out for a little while.

3131
03:12:01,740 --> 03:12:04,590
Yeah, but looking back on it.
You know, I've always wondered

3132
03:12:04,590 --> 03:12:07,560
why who invented pole dancing.
You know, when you go to

3133
03:12:07,560 --> 03:12:11,760
Vancouver or know Toronto, they
have unionised strippers. And so

3134
03:12:11,760 --> 03:12:14,550
they go from club to club, the
club and these little Jitneys

3135
03:12:14,700 --> 03:12:17,700
Oh, see the same girl
everywhere. But yeah, I was

3136
03:12:17,700 --> 03:12:21,480
taken to a club. I think it was
invented in Toronto and they and

3137
03:12:21,480 --> 03:12:24,420
they had this thing where the
girl performs well on the pole.

3138
03:12:24,840 --> 03:12:28,560
They the crowd starts yelling,
shower, shower, shower, all in

3139
03:12:28,560 --> 03:12:31,590
unison and then the girl has to
go into the shower, which is on

3140
03:12:31,590 --> 03:12:38,520
stage and turn it on. Nice. This
is a Canadians idea of cool.

3141
03:12:39,600 --> 03:12:43,290
Fun. All right, everybody. So
we'll be back on Sunday right

3142
03:12:43,290 --> 03:12:47,910
here. And please support the
programme. We're really trying

3143
03:12:47,910 --> 03:12:52,170
to do our best for you here.
divorce.org/na. And coming for

3144
03:12:52,230 --> 03:12:54,900
any more reports from Japan as
well. Yeah, we'll have more

3145
03:12:54,900 --> 03:12:57,330
report round and actually see
the plays. Yeah, we'll have some

3146
03:12:57,330 --> 03:13:00,240
more reports from Japan. From
Tokyo here. At least go to

3147
03:13:00,270 --> 03:13:04,500
Akihabara. I will start here.
We've got a party remember

3148
03:13:05,190 --> 03:13:10,440
coming to you from the Hot
Pockets wasabi love hotel here

3149
03:13:10,440 --> 03:13:12,870
in Tokyo. In the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry.

3150
03:13:13,110 --> 03:13:17,310
And from the past the near past
from Northern Silicon Valley.

3151
03:13:17,310 --> 03:13:18,660
That is I'm John C. Dvorak, he

3152
03:13:18,660 --> 03:13:22,800
will talk to you again on Sunday
right here. On no agenda. We

3153
03:13:22,800 --> 03:13:26,730
must bow

3154
03:13:33,450 --> 03:13:41,070
down, down, down, down, down
down. Kazakhstan for his first

3155
03:13:41,070 --> 03:13:49,980
job shipped from Kazakhstan for
his first job. First.

3156
03:13:55,680 --> 03:14:03,630
Up, down, up, down, down, down,
down, down, up, down, up, down.

3157
03:14:06,780 --> 03:14:15,690
Down, up, down, up, down, down,
down. Down, up, down. Up, down,

3158
03:14:15,690 --> 03:14:18,660
down, down, up, down, up, down.

3159
03:14:20,220 --> 03:14:21,030
resist,

3160
03:14:23,910 --> 03:14:36,210
resist, resist. Resist and 10
Means Committee. About about

3161
03:14:36,540 --> 03:14:37,050
Jimmy

3162
03:14:43,650 --> 03:14:50,700
Jimmy and Joe Biden and thank
you for taking the time to

3163
03:14:50,700 --> 03:14:51,060
listen

3164
03:14:51,420 --> 03:14:55,200
to vora.org/n A