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Transnistria or trans mystery?
Which one is it?

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak

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is Thursday, March 20 2014 It's
time for your gizmo nation media

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assassination episode 601

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This is no agenda

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masquerading as a debris field
and FEMA Region six and the

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traverse high tide on Austin
Texas in the morning everybody.

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I'm Adam curry and from

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Northern Silicon Valley we have
I think leverages say

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I stepped on your name but I got

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all over me. Well, I got
confused you did? Yeah, but that

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didn't mean I wasn't gonna say
my name.

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To trigger happy man I'm trigger
happy it's the best podcast in

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the universe. Happy

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slap happy trigger happy.

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There you go. Well, it's
official, John. No. Yeah, it is.

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It's official. Okay. Our news
media has just shut down

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completely. There is no other
news except debris field. Oh,

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God. I looked up the ratings
bonanza.

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No, I was listening to one of
the talk show radio am guys who

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was gloating, saying you know
you He says you people criticise

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the am talk radio guys, but we
have not gone on to this

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craziness that they've gone on
in their TV. And he explained it

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as a daily ratings boost. And I
was listening to him thinking,

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Wait a minute, you telling me
that these guys are getting hot

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ratings for this crap? Yeah. Oh,
yeah. I

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have the numbers here. Hold on a
second. Why is my Hello Firefox

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you're slow today. Hey, you
gotta love that.

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Notice Google's slowed way down.
When you do a search it takes

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forever. For this. It used to be
being used to be bowl pow.

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That may be that actually may be
a DNS thing on your end. I've

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seen that with it being a DNS
problem.

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I don't have a DNS issue. No,
no, of

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course not. We all have DNS
issues.

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I'm using the Comcast DNS How
could that be bad? Oh,

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there you go. That's your answer
right there. Oh

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to 808080808

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No, don't go don't go to 88888
You should do the open Nick.

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Definitely do not do the Google
that's how they can hijack you.

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I like being an object. It's so
much fun. Hold on a second here

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I have checked recently with the
icon drop Trojan. Here we go.

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The answer? Here's the deal if
you get a skid these guys then

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there's also a thing called Hi
lady or whatever it is. And so

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they it puts out you know those
double lines that used to be on

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web pages that you

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Oh yeah. And you'd mouse over it
and it pops up a little box with

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an X so

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that people said this sucks and
they stopped using it. Well, now

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there's a Trump person attack,
adware attack that does it just

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does it randomly page. People
who advertise on those things

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should know you should never buy
their product.

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Do you do not have a blocker
active on your, on your on your

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browser? I

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have blockers I get plenty of
stuff.

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I'm sure you do. I hear this
through a tremendous story that

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is completely in our wheelhouse
that a senior CNN executive who

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asked not to be identified,
defining the defining the

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network strategy for its
coverage. As I'm reading from

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the New York Times. CNN ratings
soared last week eating with our

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aviation theme, and over the
weekend rising by almost 100% in

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primetime. They literally have
doubled their numbers with this

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bullcrap.

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Have you watched any of it? It's
unwatchable. And

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Fox does the same thing. It's
touchable. I love the Martin

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savage who were back in the
simulator here. You're in a

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simulator. What are you doing?
Now? The whole thing is it's

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disgusting. It really is. It's
of course it's got all of the

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memes This is how sad we are as
a human race. You know, we love

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all of this stuff. And you know,
ultimately we're talking about

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293 people sad bad day but you
know it's not like that's the

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only ratings are up who gives a
shut up curry. Who gives a crap

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I heard it this thing got so out
of control. Let's just get it

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out of the way right now. Here
is a here are the shark jumps.

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So the first one is Don Lemon
that he's He has six people in

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the box actually have clips from
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is

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important to show you how the
whole we could the world could

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be burning down. In fact it is
in some parts of the world. And

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no one in America. No one would
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is in other countries. I'm sure
the BBC is doing something else

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besides this. But then again,
maybe not. But here. Just think

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of the resources we have done.
Lemann, he has a sex Dubach box

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to six people on screen in a box
with a six by six sector box. He

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has three people in the studio.
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was hijacking or terrorism or
mechanical failure or pilot

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error. But what if it was
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really understand? A lot of
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about black holes and on and on
and on and all black holes,

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black holes, yes conspiracy

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theories, you know, says What
else can you think about black

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hole Bermuda triangle and then
Desi says, just like the movie

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lost and of course, it's also
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Zone which has a very similar
plot. That's people are saying I

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know it's preposterous, but it
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Well, it is a black hole is
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hole would suck in our entire
universe. So we know it's not

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that. Oh, so we

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know it's not that. Let me just
check. John, how are you? Sure

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we have not been sucked into a
black hole?

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It's my call to you to her.

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It's yeah, right. Okay, so that
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we have both. And this is about
Israel's response. And by the

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way, I got notes from Dutch
emergency personnel, emergency

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rescue personnel, the you know,
the big nuclear summit is taking

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place any day now. And all of
the Netherlands is they've got

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walls and gates and choppers in
the duchy going what is going

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on. And one of our boots on the
ground producers says that he

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actually got notice from his
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on the lookout because you never
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as a shameful no landing in The
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and killing everybody this is.
And I said that the guy said

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dude, are you sure that this is
a reasonable? No, this is this

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is I really got this
information. So here's broth and

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of course Israel has checked in.
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this this plane reappearing all
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guess, I guess the big fear that
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and correct me if I'm wrong is
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plane may have landed wrong.

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Quite nice. It could be
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and then used as a missile, one
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or something along those lines,
I assume that's what they're

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worried about. Yes, this is

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what we all assume I woke up
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could only refuel the plane and
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they're worried about that. But
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implication of what this means.
And I was talking to an aviation

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expert there has been in the
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he

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who shall go unnamed, because he
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making them up on the spot help
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this sort of threat matrix
assessment, which even looks at,

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you know, the number of people
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mechanically working on the
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airport to fly towards Israel,
get ready has a very worrying

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assessment. He says, Look, in
the past, we were looking and

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scouring the passenger manifest
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used to be we only had to be
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thought the

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passengers were the threat post
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a thread that says what his
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last ring of trust, as he calls
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of trust, the guy making $22,000
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broken. And that is the air
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about now is the level of checks
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making on their air crews, some
app pilots, he says, pass those

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checks 25 years ago, he says
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pilots of terror.

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Alright, so I was about right in
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way I should mention that. There
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these primetime dramas were the
were the stewardess or some of

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their agents of the Russian
government. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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So this is not like a new idea.
It's taken right from fiction.

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So here's the final one. This is
the final shark jump. This is

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James Hall, former NTSB chair,
the chair of the National

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Transportation Safety Board. Oh,
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think I saw this guy. He's He's
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Well, he's everywhere he's on.
But he was on O'Reilly and one

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of our producers pointed this
out to be our project. He

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clipped it for me. Listen to
what he says that this is the

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former chair of the National
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Your facts? Same correct bill.
My concern here is you know you

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have the loves of the flight
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the individuals that were on
that aircraft. So I think we

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have to be very careful and very
responsible. I don't think we

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have been able to identify who's
in control of the aircraft. The

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aircraft certainly made
certainly some very strange

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movements. Was anyone in control
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flight crew? And the question
electronically are with the

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cyber warfare, this existing was
the aircraft being remotely

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controlled

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right, just like 911 remotely
controlled aircraft, and it was

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going left and right, because he
had a joystick, it's hard to

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control the triple seven with
the joystick. Okay, and then I

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heard this and I, okay, I'm
done. I'm just done. Really,

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really unbelievable.

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Yeah, yeah, that's it was
pathetic. But the whole, the

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whole scene in the media right
now is really deteriorated to do

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beyond pathetic. And I don't
want to go way off topic. But I

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do want to play a clip that kind
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way along the same lines. This
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show. And this is how he Mandel
in the clip is was the name of

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this clip, humiliating the
public? This is a clip this to

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me tells me that. I mean, I
thought this was the sickest

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thing I've heard for a long
time. And I realised that a lot

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of the stuff going on right now,
especially from these guys, who

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are the higher paid celebrities.
They, they are, essentially they

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don't understand that. In
especially in this dire time of

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an economic slowdown. They're
dreaming up ways to humiliate

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the public and the public is
going along with it.

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A hidden camera game show which
premieres a second season with

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celebrities and people do the
most awkward, crazy things for

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my event. You know what, I'll
tell you what the premise is

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just really quickly. We have
read in a restaurant, we'll have

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cameras and microphones, we send
a waiter over to call somebody

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back and we just say to them, we
just ambushed them and say you

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want to be on a game show you
want to win $5,000 If they say

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okay, we give them an earpiece
and back out. They can't let the

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person they're with no, they're
on a game show or anybody in the

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restaurant, and they have to do
whatever we tell them to do for

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money. You can say for $1,000
The guy sitting with his son,

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you could say, tell your son
that you are leaving her mother

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for another man.

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Oh, that's great.

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And you sit there and you go
Willie do it. And if he does it,

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how are they going to react? And
then if he does it, then we'll

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send in an actor. We'll send
them the other man. Introduce

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your son to his new mom. Oh,
wow, Steven. Yes, this show

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should be called how we ruins
lunch.

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You know, it's it's funny
because Mickey had what is known

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as an artist talk yesterday, be
aware of the artist. And she's

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doing a show with Peggy Weiss
here in Austin for Expo and they

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do a talk. And then we had the
lots of people there but also

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some friends including one of
one of our robot friends, the

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artist. And she she could not
stop talking about the

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conspiracy theories of this
plane.

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Really? Yeah. Like I

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was really people find it
fascinating. They love it. They

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they they lose all sense of
sensibility. And it's a part of

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this very proud by the way. We
were laughing at Japanese game

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shows 20 years ago they make
people sit on a block of ice

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like man those jabs are crazy.
Well there you go.

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first says but he says it's he
says it's amazing how what what

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awkward and crazy things people
do for money. And it just seems

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even mean television executives
who will do horrible things to

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people for money as well.

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Horrible It's inexcusable and I
think we don't need this guy

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down there these are the same
liberals I don't want to throw

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it into the political realm that
are always going on and on about

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you know being the good guys
this is like just a humiliation

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of the of the of the the public.
It's a it's a downgrade.

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Oh, yeah. This this particular
instance this this this missing

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flight is a downgrade of
humanity.

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You know, it's funny because I
would I didn't think it doing

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what you just did with a kind of
showing off this as a disaster.

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Not a disaster to the I'm
talking about a disaster to the

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public. Yes to your scores.
Yeah, so yeah, exactly. As we

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have may situation that Ukraine
that's quite interesting. thing

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totally, there was a lot of good
stuff that I picked up a couple

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of thing Brzezinski was his
operation that CSIS operation

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was gave a one of these little
talks, which you can't really

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want you don't really want to
miss because you get this word

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we should probably just, I don't
know why but sometimes we feel

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like we should just explain
briefly who some of these

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players are. Because virginity
is we know who he is. We talk

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about him. He's a rolls off the
tongue. But he wrote a book

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called, was it the global chess
game? I think I'm paraphrasing

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the title. And he is a huge
neoconservative, you know, screw

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screw everybody type of guy who
was foreign policy was the

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Foreign Affairs what was he

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the foreign national security
adviser for Carter Carter,

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that's what it was right. And
then I think he stayed on for a

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little bit and he became a
superstar.

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He's got dough, right. He's

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got money, too. He's got a lot
of money. He's became a

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superstar in this business of
kind of killing people. Create

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creating

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a, an environment to kill
people, as security

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organisation, which advises
people to kill his folks don't

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go out and do anything. His
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his staff doesn't directly do
it. But yeah, and the whole idea

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is to, I would say, to
manipulate the world into end

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with media but also with foreign
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military industrial complex to
give the crazy people of America

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the upper hand.

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Yes. And they've done a damn
good job with Gary. Good.

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Yeah, exactly. Carry in Nudelman
are all in there. And his

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daughter mica is on Morning Joe
with Joe Scarborough. So the the

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next generation is in place,
okay? So tell me about so

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Brzezinski. It's, it's like
clockwork, when you get this

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kind of stuff, he pops back onto
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Yeah, so I'm watching this is
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strategic Centre for strategy
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is one of the think tank think
quote unquote think tanks,

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essentially a security report
maker that gives do things to

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like a report. This is like one
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intelligence community and the
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State Department more than
anyone. But there's a bunch of

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these operations. Another guy
showed up at the meeting. It was

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one of those meetings you know,
where there's like a bunch of

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insiders and some news guys and
write about foreign affairs, and

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which is great. And then of
course, there was it was

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Brzezinski Scowcroft and some
reporter from some writer for

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the New York Times who has a
British accent so it's very

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important and he says
essentially covering the

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Ukrainian situation you

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know when you have oh, wait a
minute, is that that Oh, hold on

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a second. I was reading about
it. Oops, I just messed

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something up here for some
reason my computer is not really

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helping out today home I want to
see was it CJ something or

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others that the guy's

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name wasn't a CJ had a name? I
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Guys reading about someone wrote
something. He's probably the

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guy. Yeah, it's like if this guy
shows up then then you know

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that. Now here it is. CJ
Chivers.

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I don't think so. Apparently CJ
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dispatched to Ukraine.

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Oh no. Well, this guy was in
Washington at the time and

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wherever chivor

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Wherever Chivers go the
provocateurs Special Forces Oh,

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you could like water. Everyone
else go the time just all in

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on this and then he also had
that old fart on meet the press

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or, or Face the Nation,
whatever. Not not chip, but the

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other guy. For some reason, the
name is eluding me. Who's who's

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deaf. I didn't realise he
couldn't hear anything. So

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everybody who came up in the
audience. Yeah. All right. That

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was kind of slowed things down.
So this is if you want to get a

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rundown. I have when I picked up
Zabriskie went on for a while.

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This is a couple minutes

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and actually, we need to I have
here the official pronunciation

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of this guy's name, which we're
not doing properly. Here is the

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pronunciation. Speaking of
jeans, there you go. The big

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Brzezinski.

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Yeah. So Brzezinski runs down
the future Ukraine here after a

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question from some buddy in the
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It seems to me there's a bit of
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Their their decision of what
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depend on their understanding of
how much support they may have.

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Now, Dr. Brzezinski you
suggested that Mr. E's don't

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seem quite enough. It's a well
known menu we can provide

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intelligence support, we can
provide advisors and training we

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can provide non lethal
equipment, we can provide lethal

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equipment, we can provide air
cover. So I've given you the

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escalation. You already know
where where should we be and

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what should we be offering?

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I think and then case, we
shouldn't engage in contingency

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planning for all of that in
different portions depending on

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circumstances. But we should
couple that with a serious

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communication to the Russians,
that we would like an

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alternative outcome in which we
can be partners. But also a

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reaffirmation that the
Ukrainians resist, they will not

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be along, we are not going to
tell the Russians in advance

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exactly what we're going to do.
We may discuss some aspects of

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it with the Ukrainians. But the
test of the pudding is also in

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the Ukrainians, they have to
demonstrate that they really

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value their territorial
integrity, and are prepared to

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make sacrifices to protect it. I
think the Russians the way

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they've operated in Crimea, as
I've said before, we're

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operating on a contingent basis.
If there's a lot of resistance,

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we pulled back, the same may
very well happen. And in case of

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Ukraine as well, particularly in
those districts in which there

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are some Russian people living,
and we're demonstrating it and

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done Yes, and so forth. So the
Ukrainians themselves, first of

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all, have to take some clear
positions regarding what they

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intend to do with some degree of
credibility. Otherwise, if we

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didn't do it, then I think we
really are on a path towards

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grievious instability in Europe,
and also that spilling over to

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Georgia, Azerbaijan. The
Russians have scores to settle

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with Azerbaijanis and you're
gonna be elsewhere as well.

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Certainly, Riga, which has a
large Russian population could

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be the object of sudden
explosions, popular hatred and

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conflicts, I mean, you open up
all sorts of gates, our job is

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to reduce the scope of
uncertainty by commitment and

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clarity and willingness to
compromise on an intelligent

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level. But that also means the
President has to take a visible

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position and speak seriously to
the American people about the

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problem that we confront, that
we and our allies confront

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jointly. and Mrs. Merkel's
speech, I think, is a hopeful

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indication that more and more
importantly, Europeans are

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beginning to realise that we're
in this together, or lound, even

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though he has some personal
distractions has also spoken

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strongly on this subject, which,
you know, given his busy

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schedule, is

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all right, this, this coincides
exactly with our other favourite

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neocon douche bag, John McCain,
who is essentially just

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parroting what Brzezinski says
only he does it in English.

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I, you know, I don't think of
McCain as a neocon. I didn't see

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him as just a war hawk. war
monger. Yes. Okay. Is once the

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year right. I'll take you months
to blow up the world. He's He's

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irked about it. I think it's
personally a personal issues.

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It's, you're right. He's he's
not really in, in the club. But

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they like him. Because he's one
of those kids that always had

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the firecrackers. Like, hey,
watch me blow up this frog.

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Yeah, that's him. And he

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had what I think was the quote
of the week,

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one of his problems is that if
the people of Russia see a

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thriving economically strong
Ukraine on their border, they

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might be and he's worried that
they may be infected with the

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same disease. But the United
States of America, first of all,

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has to have a fundamental
reassessment of our relationship

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with Vladimir Putin and no more
reset buttons, no more. Tell

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Vladimir, I'll be more flexible.
Treat him for what he is that

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he's awesome. He also hates
Obama, by the way,

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does not mean reignition whole
Cold War, but it does mean

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treating him in the way that we
understand an individual who

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believes in restoring the old
Russian Empire, speed and

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matter. How do you treat him?
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here comes here comes the best
think

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economic sanctions are a very
important step. Identify these

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kleptocrats and Russia is a gas
station masquerading as a

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country.

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I gotta say that whoever wrote
that line is girl that's one of

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the best lines of

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ever. It's Kleptocracy, its
corruption. It's a nation that

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is really only dependent upon
oil and gas for their economy.

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And so economic sanctions are
important get some military

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assistance to Ukrainians at
least so they can defend

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themselves so

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that's the don't send them ready
to eat meals or meals ready to

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eat sense of military
assistance. I guess that's I

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don't know boots on the ground.
You know, dudes, have you seen

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these these in Crimea? The
photos of the soldiers that have

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no identifying marks on them,
like, have you seen, not just

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the ones that are being called
Russian soldiers by the news

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media are wearing black outfits,
right? What kind of what happens

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are they carrying? Listener
coughs already know already

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seven AR fifteens. Oh,
interesting.

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Yeah.

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resumed the missile defence
system in

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public Oh, Czech Republic
missile defence back at

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Moldova and Georgia, both of
whom are occupied by Russian

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troops as we speak.

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Georgia is not the

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path towards membership and
NATO. Yeah, there's a myriad of

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steps that we can take. And
it'll be very interesting to see

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to what degree our European
friends will join us. We're

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dependent on Russian energy.
That's

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the fact the EU part so. So it
truly is, then if I can under

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kind of help with the neocon
agenda. And I think McCain's

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agenda. You're right. Now he
sees that with military

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industrial complex, we're
pulling out of kind of Iraq and

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Afghanistan, although we have a
huge presence there and

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diplomatic and the biggest
embassy in the universe, but

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pulling out we need to go in
somewhere else. And we need to

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basically be mean to everybody,
and take everybody's crap, all

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of your resources, they all
belong to us. And I would agree

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that Russia is not the
strongest, it's been in there

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taking advantage of the
situation. They're going, Okay,

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we're gonna go and get you and
we're going to go, we're going

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to come in and take your lunch
money. That's essentially what

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it is. And that's what these
people do. And it is the same

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particular Yes. And everyone's
getting in on it. So you have

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Nudelman, also known as Victoria
Newman, but her in a real name

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is Nudelman. Who of course, is
married to one half of of the P

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neck brothership. Which is
what's the douche knuckles name

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again? I got it. I got it.
Again, it's very important for

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my story. Kagan, she's married
to Robert Kagan. And his brother

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is Frederick Kagan. Literally
the guy who wrote the project

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for New American Century the Neo
cons, who said, Hey, we should

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we should have a Pearl Harbour.
And then we should go into Iraq.

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Okay, so those guys, of course,
you know, Nudelman is out of the

448
00:27:04,620 --> 00:27:09,390
State Department who's left Jen
Psaki. And she wants to jump in

449
00:27:09,390 --> 00:27:12,150
on everything, because I was
having a good time. Everyone's

450
00:27:12,150 --> 00:27:16,170
having fun kicking the Russians
in the face. And so she tweets

451
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,630
out something, we had this, I
guess one or two soldiers were

452
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:26,220
were killed, most likely by
snipers, which would not

453
00:27:26,220 --> 00:27:29,040
necessarily be Russian. And she
tweets out something to the

454
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,480
effect of, oh, well, you know,
Russians killing people. But she

455
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,200
got called on it in her little
briefing, and it resulted

456
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,230
finally in a shut up slave
moment, it was very embarrassing

457
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:44,010
for her as she overstepped her
boundary trying to get in on the

458
00:27:44,010 --> 00:27:47,640
action, because it's so fun over
there at the skull and bones

459
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,030
stakes

460
00:27:48,030 --> 00:27:51,660
are gone in the back. You
tweeted several hours ago, stop

461
00:27:51,660 --> 00:27:54,720
the shooting and Simferopol
clear that Russia shot first.

462
00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:58,500
And I'm just curious, what is
this clarity based on? What What

463
00:27:58,530 --> 00:28:02,370
are the facts behind the
statement? Well, Russia entered

464
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,020
a Ukrainian base. And that's
clearly an act that we have

465
00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:10,800
concerns about and shows their
level of aggression in this

466
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,300
case. So I think events on the
ground seem pretty clear, in our

467
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:18,480
view, and we were just
expressing I was just expressing

468
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,850
a concern about the reports
we're hearing on the grounds.

469
00:28:20,940 --> 00:28:24,600
But now you said you talked
about entering a base. But in

470
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,790
the tweet, you're saying that
it's clear that it's actually

471
00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:29,160
fired a shot first. And that's a
pretty

472
00:28:29,370 --> 00:28:32,700
remember, she is the spokes hole
for the State Department. So for

473
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:35,910
her to say ball Russian shot
first they shot first bad guys

474
00:28:35,910 --> 00:28:38,550
shot first. Is is a big deal

475
00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:42,690
is serious allegation. So what
what is this information?

476
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,820
Where's it coming from? Because
there's been plenty of

477
00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:47,160
conflicting reports on what
actually has been happening and

478
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,630
some for oppo. So we're just
curious, we don't see let me

479
00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:54,420
just say we don't see how it's
possibly true that the Russian

480
00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:58,680
claim that they were there, they
were not that someone else was

481
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,690
the aggressor, that the
Ukrainians were the aggressor

482
00:29:00,690 --> 00:29:03,780
can possibly be true, given they
entered the Ukrainian base.

483
00:29:03,810 --> 00:29:06,030
They're not saying that they're
saying it's a provocation,

484
00:29:06,030 --> 00:29:09,210
whereas you're saying that it's
very clear, and they have said

485
00:29:09,210 --> 00:29:10,980
that a little bit I think we're
ready to move on.

486
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,060
And exactly the same lie as
south of Cydia, that everyone

487
00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:21,450
still somehow believes that
Russia was the aggressor when it

488
00:29:21,450 --> 00:29:24,720
really was Georgia who was the
aggressor and the Russians who

489
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,890
protected their of their Russian
brothers and sisters there. So

490
00:29:28,890 --> 00:29:32,010
it's these kinds of lies this,
this is how you can see what is

491
00:29:32,010 --> 00:29:33,630
really going on, and

492
00:29:33,780 --> 00:29:37,170
we're out to get these guys. Oh,
yeah. I mean, the situation in

493
00:29:37,170 --> 00:29:41,730
Crimea seems to be, you know, it
was always in part of Russia,

494
00:29:41,730 --> 00:29:45,960
and then it'd be just only since
55. It wasn't, and it's mostly

495
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,790
Russians, and there's some
people that are trying to get

496
00:29:47,790 --> 00:29:50,580
away from the Russians, of
course, the Tartars in

497
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:54,510
particular, staying there, but
the Russians had the place and

498
00:29:54,510 --> 00:29:57,330
they'd set this whole operation
up according to Brzezinski. They

499
00:29:57,330 --> 00:30:01,650
it was well, well orchestrated
this entire thing, and

500
00:30:01,650 --> 00:30:05,160
everyone's all bent out of shape
about it, but it seems that you

501
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,200
know, what was interesting about
this CSI s meeting was they all

502
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,760
agreed that the United States
was caught with its pants down

503
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:18,570
over the over the both the
Ukrainian the results of the

504
00:30:18,570 --> 00:30:21,660
Ukrainian revolution were
overthrown or whatever you want

505
00:30:21,660 --> 00:30:26,250
to call it. And this loss of
Crimea temporarily at some

506
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,730
point, it apparently nobody was
following this at all and

507
00:30:29,730 --> 00:30:32,250
Scowcroft said it was like,
well, we didn't we weren't

508
00:30:32,250 --> 00:30:35,880
paying attention. Brzezinski
agreed with that. And New York

509
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,640
Times, guys. So this is the
State Department completely

510
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,870
falling this up.

511
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:44,040
I think you're right. John had
said they were all over Kyiv

512
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:47,640
that we have McCain and Kyiv
hanging out with Neo Nazis. We

513
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,640
got Nudelman hanging out
pretzels on the on the square.

514
00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:54,030
We've got the phone call. Let's
not forget the phone call. Let's

515
00:30:54,030 --> 00:30:57,900
not forget the phone call to the
no chin monster, the High

516
00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:01,500
Priestess of foreign policy for
the EU, but like Oh really?

517
00:31:01,620 --> 00:31:04,230
Didn't know there were snipers.
Oh, gosh, oh, golly, oh, golly,

518
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:08,070
who hadn't heard that. And they
were all over that situation,

519
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:10,860
installing the this rogue Bogota
of government.

520
00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:14,580
In fact, our show we picked up
on the Chromium thing you did,

521
00:31:15,390 --> 00:31:20,340
early. France 24. That guy, the
bald guy who's floating around,

522
00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:24,030
I haven't seen him for a while,
was over there. And he pointed

523
00:31:24,030 --> 00:31:27,390
out that this is going to be a
hotspot and the US media wasn't

524
00:31:27,390 --> 00:31:29,790
looking at this and I guess the
State Department or anybody else

525
00:31:29,790 --> 00:31:32,970
was in it and all of a sudden
boom. It was just almost like an

526
00:31:32,970 --> 00:31:36,510
overnight thing. And Brzezinski
says it's because the Russians

527
00:31:36,510 --> 00:31:39,450
had planned this long in
advance. This was a this whole

528
00:31:39,450 --> 00:31:42,270
thing was a giant scheme. They
just didn't expect the whole

529
00:31:42,270 --> 00:31:44,160
Ukrainian thing to go south on
him.

530
00:31:45,450 --> 00:31:49,440
So as a part of helping the the
rest of the world, certainly the

531
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:55,530
United States flow into the
whole meme of Russia is bad

532
00:31:55,530 --> 00:32:00,810
Putin bad Putin, dictator,
Stalin, Hitler. Propaganda

533
00:32:00,810 --> 00:32:04,680
propaganda. We have the Liz wall
situation, and there is an

534
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:10,200
update on that. I tried to stay
away from her poo and ass. But

535
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,020
she Well, first I do have a fun
clip. She appeared on The View

536
00:32:13,470 --> 00:32:15,930
as a part of the whole as a part
of her campaign. Yes,

537
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:17,340
this was a great move for

538
00:32:17,340 --> 00:32:20,280
her. Wait, we wait until you
hear the background. But here is

539
00:32:20,490 --> 00:32:25,050
just a quick clip of her talking
about how horrible it was to

540
00:32:25,050 --> 00:32:25,620
work there.

541
00:32:25,710 --> 00:32:28,320
The coverage was actually making
you second was a propaganda

542
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,030
machine. Yes. So

543
00:32:30,659 --> 00:32:34,649
by the way, the view I was when
you have Barbara Walters, you've

544
00:32:34,649 --> 00:32:39,179
got Whoopi Goldberg, you have
you are talking to a cross

545
00:32:39,179 --> 00:32:42,629
section of women in America, who
will believe what they see on

546
00:32:42,629 --> 00:32:47,579
this show. Barbara Walters is
highly credible. I think Whoopi

547
00:32:47,579 --> 00:32:52,229
Goldberg is highly credible to
dissection of people who watch

548
00:32:52,229 --> 00:32:55,469
the show. And even Jenny
McCarthy. I think he's odd, but

549
00:32:55,499 --> 00:32:57,899
yeah. credible, credible,
credible, how?

550
00:32:58,530 --> 00:33:00,750
I mean, how long did you
actually work there? I was there

551
00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:03,780
for two years. So that at what
point did you say okay, I'm kind

552
00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:06,210
of have a feeling that this is
not right. Well, in light of

553
00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:10,470
current events, I could see how
the network was being used as a

554
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:13,620
propaganda machine to promote
Putin's foreign policy. And

555
00:33:14,010 --> 00:33:16,800
that's what kind of Yes, yes,
right now, right now, and

556
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,200
everybody's saying two years,
two years, but it's like, you

557
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,480
know, in an abusive
relationship, and the woman

558
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,660
finally leaves do you blame her
for getting in the relationship

559
00:33:24,660 --> 00:33:25,560
in the first place

560
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:28,500
in this country? If a journalist
disagrees with the

561
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:30,840
administration, they just get
hired to Fox News.

562
00:33:38,550 --> 00:33:42,420
She's great. I have to call
objective reporting. With non

563
00:33:42,420 --> 00:33:45,360
sequitur from Barbara Walters.
That's we can call him get good

564
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:50,850
morning. No, that was
disgusting. That was female

565
00:33:50,850 --> 00:33:55,560
unfriendly. No one called her on
that. It was an outrageous

566
00:33:55,860 --> 00:34:00,210
comparison. In this day and age,
well, you know, I've been in

567
00:34:00,270 --> 00:34:03,150
abusive relationship. My husband
been hitting me for two years,

568
00:34:03,330 --> 00:34:04,830
but I couldn't get out soon
enough.

569
00:34:05,550 --> 00:34:10,500
That was unbelievable. Boy I've
just borderline Oh, no, no, no,

570
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,200
no, no, no, but I have to say I
believe you didn't get it.

571
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:16,980
But can I just finish this up?
So I just want to wrap up wall

572
00:34:18,179 --> 00:34:21,119
I gotta wrap up get go? Yeah,
finish because this is a very

573
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:21,959
annoying one.

574
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:26,550
So the the, these Neo
conservative, the Neo

575
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:28,440
conservative group, which is
called the Neo cons we'll be

576
00:34:28,740 --> 00:34:33,210
talking about they have changed
face. What used to be this

577
00:34:33,210 --> 00:34:36,900
peanut project for New American
Century. There's now a new group

578
00:34:36,930 --> 00:34:40,770
of not new but they're now all
in the foreign policy

579
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:46,650
initiative. And if you look at
the Foreign Policy Initiative

580
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,990
twitter feed on March 5, the day
that Miss Miss wall here

581
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:58,800
resigned 20 minutes before she
resigned their tweet this

582
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,920
foreign policy initiative he's
tweeting hashtag word on the

583
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,300
street says something big might
happen at RT in about 20 to 25

584
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:12,570
minutes. Then about 10 minutes
later, 10 minutes before Liz did

585
00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:17,160
her pool and his rant. If Pei
tweeted, hashtag word on the

586
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,760
street says you're really going
to want to tune in to RT

587
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:24,330
something hashtag something big
may be going down. I swear to

588
00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:29,040
God, that's their hashtag. And
then at 526 The very moment this

589
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,350
girl quits on air, foreign
policy initiative tweets, anchor

590
00:35:34,350 --> 00:35:37,890
resigns on air cannot be part of
network that whitewashes the

591
00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:43,170
actions of Putin. Then she
appears in an interview with The

592
00:35:43,170 --> 00:35:47,040
Daily Beast, an hour later
exclusive interview, James

593
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:51,330
Kirchick. And what is the
connection to all of this? Well,

594
00:35:51,330 --> 00:35:54,300
if you look at the Foreign
Policy Initiative, you will see

595
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:56,730
the board of directors Well,
first of all, the Board of

596
00:35:56,730 --> 00:36:00,360
Directors, Kirchick is on the
board of directors along with

597
00:36:01,050 --> 00:36:06,150
Robert Kagan, Victorian Nudelman
husband, who of course, is the

598
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:11,070
brother of the original P
knacker Frederick Kagan, this

599
00:36:11,070 --> 00:36:16,200
was a setup from these people.
And there's the proof.

600
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:22,770
Nice, nice catch. Cat guy that
none of this is a surprise. Of

601
00:36:22,770 --> 00:36:25,440
course, no, but he's always kind
of annoying that it's like you

602
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,920
go and you dredge up all this
cool stuff. And then you go,

603
00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:34,530
yeah, yeah, surprise, surprise.
Like, God, I know. It's like,

604
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,360
you're going like, oh, yeah,

605
00:36:36,690 --> 00:36:40,590
this is reconfirming. The basic
thesis. Only in a big way.

606
00:36:40,590 --> 00:36:42,960
Nobody else does this. Of
course, everyone's all over.

607
00:36:42,990 --> 00:36:46,500
I did have help on this. We, for
this particular episode of the

608
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,590
Best podcast in the universe, a
lot of help from our producers,

609
00:36:49,590 --> 00:36:51,810
which is why we call them
producers and not listeners.

610
00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:54,690
Right? A lot of help. Okay. You
wanted to talk about

611
00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:57,810
the Well, I was just thinking
that this Yeah, this is such an

612
00:36:57,810 --> 00:37:02,070
obvious setup. And Liz wall is
just I mean, I think she should

613
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:05,700
be ashamed of herself. And of
course, then, I mean, she was

614
00:37:05,730 --> 00:37:11,220
obviously sent in as a spy.
Yeah, well, then she took the

615
00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:15,450
money. She was paid by them and
then made up this bullcrap. And

616
00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:20,310
the other thing is, is that this
is a she was stunned. shocked

617
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:26,070
that this was a an arm of the
Russian government was pushing

618
00:37:26,070 --> 00:37:32,700
its agenda. It's called Russia
today. Yeah, hello. Are you that

619
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:36,630
stupid, but she's not that
stupid. I must call this on

620
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:37,110
purpose.

621
00:37:37,140 --> 00:37:43,680
I must call out more. What's
Glenn Beck's thing? The blaze

622
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,750
the blaze? So I see I saw the
headlines I want to see this

623
00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:51,120
clip. He's got some hot chicks
by the way over there. The Blaze

624
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:54,330
is trying by the way he's worked
at Fox he mean he knows the

625
00:37:54,330 --> 00:37:55,140
formula. Have you

626
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:57,480
seen Russia today's financial
babe.

627
00:37:58,980 --> 00:38:01,560
Oh, he's talking about the blog.
We talked about her before.

628
00:38:01,830 --> 00:38:04,890
Oh, wood, but now her shirts
opened down to her midriff

629
00:38:05,550 --> 00:38:09,510
well she was she was she dresses
like a Russian whore? Well yeah,

630
00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:11,550
the blonde that does

631
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,880
no good she's blonde I think
she's she's brunette maybe she's

632
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,530
brunette now it's the market
says the show well let me see

633
00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:23,280
it's I think it's I'm looking
now I'm looking this by the way

634
00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:26,820
just so you know if you're new
to this programme, this is how

635
00:38:26,820 --> 00:38:31,110
we talk as television executives
for ratings. We are not

636
00:38:31,110 --> 00:38:32,010
misogynistic.

637
00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:36,570
We're just dialling it like this
is the way we actually this is a

638
00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:39,780
mild version of what you'd hear
in a in a closed behind closed

639
00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:45,000
doors at a network I think yeah.
Oh yeah. Or t.com When I say

640
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,500
mild I seriously mean

641
00:38:46,530 --> 00:38:49,320
we're very mild. Yeah, what is
her name? What let me just see

642
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,250
shows

643
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:54,180
a yard she's got a bunch of
different streams they have the

644
00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:57,510
one that comes out of Moscow and
then they have the one that

645
00:38:57,510 --> 00:39:00,120
comes out in New York and they
seem to be completely disparate

646
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,670
they're not they don't ever
bounce back and for energy you

647
00:39:02,670 --> 00:39:05,640
can catch what some of their
stuff syndicate and then catch

648
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,660
it on the RT network. Right.
He's got most of the American

649
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:12,540
stuff. It's just a weird
they've. You know, I don't know

650
00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:16,950
who's running it, but it seems
discombobulated if you asked me

651
00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:20,100
discombobulated let me see
technology documentary big

652
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:23,610
picture. Is it Sophie ko no it's
not Sophie Coco.

653
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:28,560
thing it is eight ad E. That's
the blonde. No, I think that's a

654
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,110
different one. Now that's not
the one this one's a big giant

655
00:39:31,350 --> 00:39:35,070
mouth. That word gives us a
giant smile that you can see

656
00:39:35,070 --> 00:39:39,990
every tooth is a little too big.
Yeah, well, I I'll find it

657
00:39:40,020 --> 00:39:41,220
again. It doesn't matter.

658
00:39:41,220 --> 00:39:45,540
So the blaze has their version.
And they're in on this. They are

659
00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:50,430
in on this. Anything to make
Russia look horrible. And let's

660
00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:54,840
see what can we do? What can we
possibly do to convince the

661
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,250
already crazed audience of the
blaze and I know people who work

662
00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:04,080
there I read their stuff some
stuff is good. But wow, this is

663
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,500
this just this took me aback for
a second when I heard this.

664
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,100
As for the record was preparing
to file this story. Our

665
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:14,460
investigative producer was
contacted by a naval officer

666
00:40:14,460 --> 00:40:19,260
serving in special operations.
One day before notice the music

667
00:40:19,290 --> 00:40:23,280
was resigning his commission. He
said he ordered a forensic

668
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,870
investigation into the 2008
crash. It was conducted by a

669
00:40:27,870 --> 00:40:32,070
military contractor with
expertise in global finance and

670
00:40:32,070 --> 00:40:36,240
data solutions. It was done
independently of Kevin Freeman

671
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:40,920
study. That report concluded
there is overwhelming evidence

672
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,240
that China and Russia launched
economic terrorist attacks on

673
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:49,950
the United States in 2008. There
you will have more on the story

674
00:40:49,950 --> 00:40:50,430
that's what

675
00:40:50,430 --> 00:40:54,540
caused the crash Exactly. That's
the whole story. Russia caused

676
00:40:54,540 --> 00:40:59,340
the crash John those bastards
wow those bastards and then but

677
00:40:59,340 --> 00:40:59,520
this

678
00:40:59,610 --> 00:41:02,310
what by the way explained to me
and this would be nice to

679
00:41:02,310 --> 00:41:05,970
somebody was would kind of
define it. What is an economic

680
00:41:05,970 --> 00:41:07,200
terror attack?

681
00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:09,540
Well, it's ZEV.

682
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,860
It's clear John. They crashed
the market for housing. The

683
00:41:13,860 --> 00:41:16,710
unknown a bunch of Russians sold
their houses.

684
00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:19,950
I love the unnamed guy who was
about to quit the military but

685
00:41:19,950 --> 00:41:23,700
still had one last hurrah. I'm
gonna give you this information.

686
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:26,220
Information

687
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,060
guys all bugged me. I mean, back
you know, I listened to his

688
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:35,220
stuff too. And I agree with you.
He's got something saved for

689
00:41:35,220 --> 00:41:38,220
once. Well, something's really
good. Yeah, sure. But let me

690
00:41:38,220 --> 00:41:41,940
just mention that the all these
guys are annoying, and they this

691
00:41:41,940 --> 00:41:44,610
is all they're annoying you to
support our show. Yeah, I was

692
00:41:44,610 --> 00:41:50,130
gonna say this is a pet peeve
clip that if you just went up

693
00:41:50,130 --> 00:41:52,260
and down the list you'd look at
and you go oh, God, I hope he

694
00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:53,520
doesn't want to play that.

695
00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:57,810
Sean Hannity show intro. I want
you to listen to this carefully.

696
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,050
I know honey, it's time for it.
We need to spend some time apart

697
00:42:01,050 --> 00:42:04,260
I think no, I know you too.
Well, now I'm gonna listen to

698
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:05,340
this thing I'm gonna hate it

699
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,270
well, you're gonna you're gonna
hate it but you're gonna you be

700
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:11,520
interested in my commentary or
my complaining

701
00:42:21,090 --> 00:42:27,540
party credo is bad. To the
revolution

702
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,460
Sean Hannity show more behind
the scenes information on

703
00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:42,930
breaking news and more bold,
inspired solutions for

704
00:42:42,930 --> 00:42:43,650
America.

705
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,300
But Bucky, wait, don't say
anything. Now I hear every time

706
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:50,550
I'm listening. I'd go through
the channels. I'm driving around

707
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:53,610
and I picked this up. And this
by the way, he's got lots of

708
00:42:53,610 --> 00:42:57,180
native advertising on this show.
And I totally corrupt just the

709
00:42:57,180 --> 00:43:00,030
immersion. So I'm listening. I
listen to this intro. This is

710
00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:03,780
the intro to the show in the
hour. We'll put a boot in your

711
00:43:03,810 --> 00:43:08,850
ass it's the American way Hell
Yeah, bitch is to me the most

712
00:43:08,850 --> 00:43:12,660
offensive thing that anybody
could put on the air besides

713
00:43:12,660 --> 00:43:16,410
using the word ass Yeah, well,
good. So this is a digital the

714
00:43:16,410 --> 00:43:18,990
American way according to this
guy the way he thinks because he

715
00:43:18,990 --> 00:43:21,390
thinks this is a great clip he
obviously put it to your help

716
00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:25,380
put it together produce it. This
this opening. So his thinking is

717
00:43:26,490 --> 00:43:29,940
our job is not to really be
friends with anybody is to be a

718
00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:33,450
big bully and put a boot in your
ass because it's the American

719
00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:37,170
way. What is the American way?
Yeah, to me it's a lot of things

720
00:43:37,170 --> 00:43:40,170
but putting a boot in somebody's
asked is not on my list.

721
00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:43,650
Have you seen Ukraine?

722
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,040
Well, we put a boot in there
asked exactly

723
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:47,940
what John cedars

724
00:43:49,050 --> 00:43:52,800
diva of the day is saying, I
just every time I hear that I

725
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,610
go, who does this guy think he
is? And what is his message for

726
00:43:56,610 --> 00:43:56,850
guy

727
00:43:56,850 --> 00:43:59,910
was such broad, you know, you'd
think that he would have Sean

728
00:43:59,910 --> 00:44:03,360
Hannity to Sean hannity.com
Which of course is pointing to

729
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,710
no agenda show.com That shows
you what boot he's got up his

730
00:44:07,710 --> 00:44:13,950
ass. That's that's i i could not
agree with you more. It is very

731
00:44:13,950 --> 00:44:17,430
disturbing. Unless it's done in
parody, kind of like, you know,

732
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:19,020
the Team America. That's funny.

733
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,540
No, this guy's got no humour
now, but

734
00:44:21,570 --> 00:44:25,380
this is exactly the business
carry. There is there is a

735
00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:30,510
section. We have a saying in the
Netherlands. But you say things

736
00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:34,110
self made you cop to the health.
It rhymes. And it means whatever

737
00:44:34,110 --> 00:44:37,020
you say if someone else is
really what you are. And that's

738
00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:41,400
it. And you'll find this true in
many, many cases in the

739
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,000
workplace and family relations.
When someone says you know,

740
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:47,640
you're an egomaniac the person
saying it is probably an

741
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,000
egomaniac. Would you say this is
kind of a thing that happens a

742
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,450
recurring theme. There's a lot
of that Sure. So you get these

743
00:44:54,450 --> 00:45:00,180
guys like Carrie and and just
McCain and I can't He would

744
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:02,670
fault the president. The
president is not a part of this

745
00:45:02,670 --> 00:45:05,130
pitch. He's doing brackets.

746
00:45:05,850 --> 00:45:10,470
Yeah, he's doing I swear to god
here he does brackets. This is

747
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:10,710
all

748
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:14,160
going on. And here's our
president everybody and finally,

749
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,170
the bracket technologist in
chief.

750
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,530
President Obama as he does every
March making his predictions as

751
00:45:22,530 --> 00:45:23,370
to the madness with

752
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,790
ESPN the guy can't even listen
to it then oh, I'm gonna win the

753
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:32,640
billion born buffets billion
dollar challenge. What is this

754
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,820
guy doing the Obama but so we
have an Obama bought dinner on

755
00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:37,890
Friday John the new Obama bought
dinner.

756
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,530
Oh, this is good is winding
down. I think

757
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,860
it is because two of the bots
are leaving for California. They

758
00:45:43,860 --> 00:45:44,550
can't take it.

759
00:45:44,910 --> 00:45:47,340
Very comfortable around here.
And

760
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,830
and so it's at the professor's
house. And I get an email. And

761
00:45:52,830 --> 00:45:56,040
the email is the subject isn't
usually it's Obama bought dinner

762
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,100
because they are cool that way.
They know they're Obama bots.

763
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:02,520
And they know I talk about him
on the show. And despite how

764
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,930
harsh I was on the last time,
they're all excited. I know

765
00:46:06,930 --> 00:46:07,410
right?

766
00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:11,790
And you talk about the missing
aeroplane. Oh, yeah. But no,

767
00:46:11,790 --> 00:46:16,860
but the title of the email the
subject was heal bots. It took

768
00:46:16,860 --> 00:46:20,460
me 10 minutes to what he taught
he'll bots kill bots. Like

769
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:22,920
they're not on a hill. What are
you talking about? Oh, he'll

770
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:28,230
bots Hillary. Oh, Hill bots.
Yes. Whoa, kill bots. So

771
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:31,620
he'll bots. So they're already
one year into the reelection?

772
00:46:31,620 --> 00:46:35,130
They're already? Well, damn,
that's no good, Hillary. Yeah,

773
00:46:35,130 --> 00:46:38,220
she'll do it, Hillary. And of
course, then, of course, they

774
00:46:38,250 --> 00:46:41,130
they're gonna be so disappointed
because I too want, right, I

775
00:46:41,130 --> 00:46:43,410
pray to God that I want Hillary
to become president.

776
00:46:43,770 --> 00:46:45,630
It's a boon for the show. Oh,
hell yeah.

777
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:52,380
At least four years of show. At
least, at least at least at

778
00:46:52,380 --> 00:46:54,900
least. So that should be and
they're going to be very

779
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:57,450
disappointed because of course,
I'm just going to say I can

780
00:46:57,450 --> 00:46:59,820
argue with I'm not going to
argue about the plan. I'm just

781
00:46:59,820 --> 00:47:03,180
going to say there's no evidence
that crashed. I think everyone

782
00:47:03,180 --> 00:47:06,330
is dead. And the reason why is
because they wanted either the

783
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,240
what's in the plane or the the
cargo or the passengers. That's

784
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:11,970
it. I'll carry out him because
you're not see what we're

785
00:47:11,970 --> 00:47:16,290
responsible Americans because we
watch. We watch cable news show.

786
00:47:16,290 --> 00:47:18,120
So we're very keeping up with
the news. I'm in

787
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,800
love with Rachel Maddow. I would
marry her if I could. Yeah,

788
00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:28,680
yeah. They watch the news, PBS
news hour. NPR. Oh, I can't even

789
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,640
listen to NPR. Well, we all know
that Vladimir Putin, his former

790
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,920
KGB and he really wants to
restore the KGB. He invented the

791
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,030
word KGB. And he wants to
restore Russia to its great

792
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,900
proportion when he wants to
rebuild the Soviet Yes,

793
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:47,460
yes, that's all he wants.

794
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,290
So here's Kearney trying to
explain why Putin is not on the

795
00:47:52,290 --> 00:47:56,010
list of people that are being
sanctioned. You're not taking

796
00:47:56,010 --> 00:47:57,360
sanctions against Putin off?

797
00:47:57,450 --> 00:48:00,570
I think I said that already. I'm
not, I'm not putting on or off

798
00:48:00,570 --> 00:48:07,500
any individual, you can see the
scope provided by the executive

799
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:14,010
orders that have been signed,
the and how individuals can fall

800
00:48:14,010 --> 00:48:17,580
into the categories outlined in
those executive orders. But

801
00:48:17,580 --> 00:48:21,120
beyond saying that we are
assessing regularly, additional

802
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,570
steps we could take and
sanctions we could impose. I'm

803
00:48:24,570 --> 00:48:29,610
not going to label individuals
or predict who might be next if

804
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:30,510
if anyone is

805
00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:34,050
taking these actions and saying
that they are targeted those

806
00:48:34,050 --> 00:48:37,620
responsible for what's your
watches activity in Crimea, the

807
00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:41,040
White House is not suggesting
that Vladimir Putin is not

808
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,360
responsible for what Russia has

809
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:45,900
done there. Certainly were not
that with the authorities

810
00:48:45,930 --> 00:48:47,370
or why not sanction him.

811
00:48:47,370 --> 00:48:51,480
I'm just John, I feel like this
is Groundhog Day from a briefing

812
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,830
I had last week

813
00:48:52,860 --> 00:48:57,600
no effect is today. And Putin is
not on the list. So I'm asking I

814
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:57,780
would

815
00:48:57,780 --> 00:49:02,640
suggest that we have identified
individuals today. We have the

816
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:08,370
authorities to more broadly
identify individuals and

817
00:49:08,370 --> 00:49:12,360
entities entities in the future.
And we will do that as

818
00:49:13,169 --> 00:49:17,339
he came. He answered the
question well, which is why

819
00:49:17,339 --> 00:49:19,019
isn't Putin on the list is
simple? Well,

820
00:49:19,050 --> 00:49:23,640
he's lying. Because even you're
either on the list. Jay, you

821
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,140
both of us are on the list.

822
00:49:26,490 --> 00:49:27,840
Because I read it we on

823
00:49:28,379 --> 00:49:36,659
a on the we are mentioned in the
executive order as eligible for

824
00:49:36,659 --> 00:49:41,789
seizure of property. Yes. Well,
let me read it because of

825
00:49:41,789 --> 00:49:45,119
course, whoever I'm now I'm
interested whoever that reporter

826
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:50,309
was, and we'll talk about that
in a moment. is clearly did not

827
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:53,189
read the executive order, which
you know, if you you can read

828
00:49:53,189 --> 00:49:55,499
the Federal Register and it has
this stuff in there or

829
00:49:55,499 --> 00:49:59,939
whitehouse.gov. Blocking
property of certain persons

830
00:50:00,569 --> 00:50:08,309
contributing to the situation in
Ukraine. That's me for sure. We

831
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:11,249
are contributing to the
situation. We are not being

832
00:50:11,249 --> 00:50:11,849
helpful.

833
00:50:12,809 --> 00:50:15,299
We are cropping helpful, that's
for sure. But I don't know if

834
00:50:15,299 --> 00:50:16,829
that contributes to anything.
How

835
00:50:16,830 --> 00:50:20,160
would you like to interpret that
John, contributing to the

836
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,920
situation in Ukraine? That is,
that can be any person in

837
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,910
America because it in fact, says
provisions for seizure of

838
00:50:26,910 --> 00:50:32,280
property extend to any United
States person. So if you are,

839
00:50:32,370 --> 00:50:35,190
and this is not for Russians,
this is for Americans, if you're

840
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:39,000
contributing to the situation,
Ukraine by doing a podcast where

841
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,590
you call out these Neo cons as a
whole bullies, you're

842
00:50:43,590 --> 00:50:46,350
contributing to the problem. And
I think,

843
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:51,120
good curry stuff. Anyway, boss,
guess what? He's got nothing.

844
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,540
He's judgement. What do we do
now Holy

845
00:50:54,540 --> 00:50:57,210
crap, that this is no good. He's
got nothing.

846
00:51:01,890 --> 00:51:05,610
There was a local report from a
CBS reporter about these, these

847
00:51:05,610 --> 00:51:08,550
White House briefing sessions.
And she went to she went to

848
00:51:08,550 --> 00:51:12,510
Washington. And she gave a
little report on the news there

849
00:51:12,540 --> 00:51:15,030
about how it works, because he
or she got to sit down with

850
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:18,270
spoke to Jay Carney. And he
showed them how these briefings

851
00:51:18,270 --> 00:51:18,690
work.

852
00:51:19,470 --> 00:51:22,380
Yes, it was a very busy day. We
started here shortly after eight

853
00:51:22,380 --> 00:51:26,370
o'clock with a coffee with Press
Secretary Jay Carney inside his

854
00:51:26,370 --> 00:51:29,850
office in the West Wing. And
this was off the record. So we

855
00:51:29,850 --> 00:51:33,420
were able to ask him all about
some of the preparation that he

856
00:51:33,420 --> 00:51:36,090
does on a regular basis for
talking to the press. In his

857
00:51:36,090 --> 00:51:39,930
daily press briefings, he showed
us a very long list of items

858
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:43,830
that he has to be well versed on
every single day. And then he

859
00:51:43,830 --> 00:51:46,980
also mentioned that a lot of
times unless it's something

860
00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:50,160
breaking, the questions that the
reporters actually asked were

861
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,190
the correspondents, they are
provided to him in advance. So

862
00:51:53,370 --> 00:51:56,280
then he knows what he's going to
be answering. And sometimes

863
00:51:56,310 --> 00:51:58,650
those correspondents and
reporters also have those

864
00:51:58,650 --> 00:52:01,620
answers printed in front of
them, because of course it helps

865
00:52:01,620 --> 00:52:03,750
when they're producing their
reports for later on. So that

866
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:05,610
was very interesting. And then
we

867
00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:10,560
there's sitting there doing a
little play, is that

868
00:52:10,860 --> 00:52:15,150
the way we should do our Listen,
this was an producers that we

869
00:52:15,150 --> 00:52:18,930
had one of the house Parliament
guys come on one of the shows

870
00:52:18,930 --> 00:52:21,390
and said the same thing about
that prime when the Prime

871
00:52:21,390 --> 00:52:24,930
Minister's that charade that
they do when they when they

872
00:52:24,930 --> 00:52:29,160
start screaming at each other in
Parliament, and then the camera

873
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,770
and whoever whoever's running
the place gets up and says

874
00:52:31,770 --> 00:52:35,070
something, it's all scripted.
Yes. And this script

875
00:52:35,759 --> 00:52:39,059
on both ends, all we need now is
for corny to actually give them

876
00:52:39,059 --> 00:52:40,619
the questions and the answer.

877
00:52:42,570 --> 00:52:45,090
Well, here's one question. I'm
surprised they let this one go

878
00:52:45,090 --> 00:52:50,580
on. But this was like a question
about Russian TV. This is, I

879
00:52:50,580 --> 00:52:53,160
just thought this was the most
interesting question and non

880
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:57,420
answer. That was that was at
that press conference,

881
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,260
or something on it was on
Russian television, state

882
00:53:01,260 --> 00:53:03,810
controlled television main state
control channel,

883
00:53:04,290 --> 00:53:05,700
unlike our controlled,

884
00:53:07,170 --> 00:53:07,950
thinking, the same

885
00:53:08,580 --> 00:53:15,720
Dmitry Kiselev, prominent
Russian television anchor, posed

886
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:20,070
in front of a mushroom cloud and
warned that Russia is the only

887
00:53:20,070 --> 00:53:23,670
country in the world capable of
turning the US into radioactive

888
00:53:23,730 --> 00:53:28,560
dust. I mentioned this because
the state controlled Russian

889
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,660
television which as we know,
doesn't, you know, generally,

890
00:53:34,140 --> 00:53:37,470
broadcast stuff that is not, you
know, signed off by by the

891
00:53:37,470 --> 00:53:39,450
government of Russia. What is
your sense when you hear

892
00:53:39,450 --> 00:53:40,170
something like that?

893
00:53:40,350 --> 00:53:43,770
I mean, that people say crazy
things on TV all the time. Yeah,

894
00:53:43,770 --> 00:53:45,480
but this is Russian state
controlled

895
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:53,280
TV, they take your point
entirely. We're focused on

896
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,250
the actions of the Russian
government, we're focused on the

897
00:53:56,250 --> 00:53:58,560
support we're providing to the
Ukrainian government, we're

898
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,330
focused on marshalling a
strategy with our partners

899
00:54:03,330 --> 00:54:06,030
around the world, especially in
Europe, for how to deal with

900
00:54:06,030 --> 00:54:11,610
this challenge posed by Russia.
And we are making sure that

901
00:54:11,610 --> 00:54:15,480
Russia is incurring costs for
the provocations that it has

902
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,880
engaged in and and the actions
that it's taken.

903
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:20,940
If you'll indulge me, John, I'll
go back to episode five, nine or

904
00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:25,230
nine or into your bin of clips
for American state run

905
00:54:25,230 --> 00:54:27,510
television, which of course, as
we know, is the American

906
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:31,860
Broadcast Corporation, like
Russia Today, American Broadcast

907
00:54:31,860 --> 00:54:36,690
Corporation, run by the Disney
Corporation. The whole new staff

908
00:54:36,690 --> 00:54:40,410
is is is married to the
administration everyone's

909
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,810
screwing each other sex symbol,
doting mom crap one on one that

910
00:54:45,810 --> 00:54:47,160
was set up so perfectly.

911
00:54:47,340 --> 00:54:49,350
Wow. I like it.

912
00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:55,740
That's not what I wanted that I
wanted to dramatise the crowd

913
00:54:55,740 --> 00:54:59,970
I'm so sorry. That it will fix
it in post effects.

914
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,890
Am I supposed to post

915
00:55:02,250 --> 00:55:04,950
with you had this whole divorce
called that clip and I thought

916
00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:07,620
ABC drama was what it would be.
You had this whole thing of

917
00:55:07,620 --> 00:55:13,740
there. They got the marching
music and Croix that was

918
00:55:13,740 --> 00:55:14,820
great. Yeah. What

919
00:55:14,820 --> 00:55:16,800
was it? What was it? Yeah, it

920
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:17,610
was on ABC.

921
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,890
What would you call that? Of
course, it was on ABC. But would

922
00:55:19,890 --> 00:55:21,540
you call that clickers? Now? I
can't find it.

923
00:55:21,930 --> 00:55:25,470
Find it. If I can find my list.
Eclipse does show 599. I thought

924
00:55:25,470 --> 00:55:31,230
it was 599. But I guess not
eight. I don't let me see. I

925
00:55:31,230 --> 00:55:33,750
have. That's okay. We'll deal
with it later.

926
00:55:33,780 --> 00:55:35,790
Anyway, trust me, we do the same
thing.

927
00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:42,030
It's exactly the same. The thing
that was interesting is the is

928
00:55:42,030 --> 00:55:45,360
the first thing I thought of
when I heard this was that the

929
00:55:45,390 --> 00:55:48,630
Russians are obviously got the
same kind of media that we have,

930
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:51,570
essentially state control. Ours
is like not state controlled,

931
00:55:51,570 --> 00:55:55,020
per se, but it is, yeah, there's
the state control than it is.

932
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,600
And they're brainwashing their
public the same way. We're

933
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,270
brainwashing our public this is
good. It's how these how

934
00:56:00,270 --> 00:56:04,470
countries begin to hate each
other. At all, we're gonna blast

935
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:09,810
these idiot Americans and Putin
straw, these American. Well, so

936
00:56:09,870 --> 00:56:12,390
that's true. We do think we own
the place the artists

937
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:16,170
talk yesterday and an artist
talk. You know, people go to

938
00:56:16,170 --> 00:56:19,620
that. First of all, they have no
money, no one buys anything.

939
00:56:20,730 --> 00:56:23,670
It's called ask questions and
look complicated.

940
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:26,610
One of these recently at the
Richmond art gallery, because

941
00:56:26,610 --> 00:56:30,060
they had some I went in to look
at some buddies stuff. And

942
00:56:30,090 --> 00:56:33,840
woman, the artist, who was
fairly famous and old, she was

943
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,260
going to be there and give an
artist talk. And it was, so I go

944
00:56:37,260 --> 00:56:39,480
there and the places packing up,
I couldn't even get in. So I

945
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,700
didn't even go to the artists
talk. But it was packed up

946
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:44,070
mostly, I don't know if this
would be the same in your area,

947
00:56:44,070 --> 00:56:48,180
but it was mostly elite, quasi
elite older women, middle aged

948
00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:49,020
old women,

949
00:56:49,140 --> 00:56:53,130
no amount of them the age the
age range. But I you know, of

950
00:56:53,130 --> 00:56:55,560
course, I was chatting with
everybody. And I was like, Oh,

951
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,640
we have Putin. Oh, yes. You Oh,
Putin. Oh, of Putin lip. Oh, if

952
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,540
there's gonna be a 2015 because
of Putin. Everyone's all because

953
00:57:03,570 --> 00:57:05,400
you're right, they're
indoctrinated. Here's that.

954
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,900
Here's an ABC clip that I found
just to show you the the America

955
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,180
American indoctrination
programme.

956
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,250
X ignore means to stop whatever
you are doing and get to the

957
00:57:17,250 --> 00:57:19,230
nearest safe place fast.

958
00:57:19,410 --> 00:57:24,840
That very real threat of nuclear
war seems a long time ago. But

959
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,550
watching developments this week.
It was hard not to think about

960
00:57:29,550 --> 00:57:32,160
those battle days of the Cold
War. How

961
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,530
is this different from a
mushroom cloud in the

962
00:57:34,530 --> 00:57:37,770
background? We've got air raid
sirens

963
00:57:38,730 --> 00:57:39,570
on the march

964
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:45,570
to Easter fighter jets.
Explosion Vladimir

965
00:57:45,570 --> 00:57:48,870
Putin test firing an
intercontinental ballistic

966
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:52,320
missile. ICBM though unarmed,

967
00:57:52,350 --> 00:57:59,100
so you know, thank you. That is
where we invented this. We know

968
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:02,670
how to we know we look at the
movies. We know how to do this.

969
00:58:03,390 --> 00:58:06,900
Yeah, we do a better than anyone
to say. It's it's not that an

970
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:09,600
expert can't come along from
someplace else. No, but but to

971
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,010
say based on Bernays

972
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,900
just the gall to say web,
Russian state television is

973
00:58:15,900 --> 00:58:20,820
really making their people
afraid. Oh, hey, you know,

974
00:58:20,910 --> 00:58:24,870
speaking of afraid, John, whoa,
whoa, whoa. Thank you for your

975
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:27,390
courage. I think we need to say
in the morning to you, John C.

976
00:58:27,390 --> 00:58:29,640
Dvorak. We are an hour into the
show.

977
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,510
We're into the show. We got to
stop. Yes, thanks some

978
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:36,510
producers. I want to say in the
morning to you Adam curry in the

979
00:58:36,510 --> 00:58:38,520
morning all the ships and sea
boots on the ground feet in the

980
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,890
air subs in the water and the
Dames and the Knights out there.

981
00:58:40,890 --> 00:58:41,580
And to

982
00:58:41,610 --> 00:58:46,290
of course, our artists, thank
you very much major kills. Who

983
00:58:46,290 --> 00:58:52,350
we used for episode 600. He, he
or she I guess he had a great

984
00:58:52,350 --> 00:58:54,780
piece of art really nice to read
the background with all those

985
00:58:54,810 --> 00:58:57,360
memes in there. All the show
notes actually show notes to

986
00:58:57,390 --> 00:59:01,380
Section memes for our 600th
episode and of course in the

987
00:59:01,380 --> 00:59:03,870
morning, everybody there in the
chat room. And thank you for

988
00:59:03,870 --> 00:59:08,010
your kittens encourage. And
that's it no agenda stream.com

989
00:59:08,610 --> 00:59:12,240
We could not have any kind of
conversation is free and flowing

990
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:16,200
as this. If it were not for our
model, which is that one a value

991
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,290
for value, no commercial
messages, no one to have a

992
00:59:19,290 --> 00:59:22,260
meeting with later on. If you
don't support us, the show goes

993
00:59:22,260 --> 00:59:25,410
away. If you do support us we
continue on our merry way. And

994
00:59:25,410 --> 00:59:28,830
we have a couple people thank
you rhymed wants to the same

995
00:59:28,830 --> 00:59:33,000
word. But yeah, it robs us the
same word twice and call it a

996
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:33,510
rhyme.

997
00:59:34,110 --> 00:59:38,550
Oh, that's what this poet would
do this guy read earlier. Okay,

998
00:59:38,580 --> 00:59:41,730
we do have a few people to thank
want to thank him. We have two

999
00:59:41,730 --> 00:59:44,550
executive producer we didn't
have we had a drop off as

1000
00:59:44,550 --> 00:59:49,110
expected after our show 600
celebration, but at least we

1001
00:59:49,110 --> 00:59:52,530
made it through with a couple of
executive producers Philippine

1002
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:53,880
Venky in

1003
00:59:54,210 --> 00:59:56,820
I think it's finger. Vink
thinker.

1004
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,590
Think, think Philippine, the
Finca In

1005
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,410
whose horse pills Horst

1006
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:12,630
Holland for seven $471.10 is an
unusual number dudes she says

1007
01:00:12,660 --> 01:00:16,050
dudes please accept my donation
return I would like to receive a

1008
01:00:16,050 --> 01:00:20,280
personal ringtone I prefer
George Clooney as a spy followed

1009
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,300
by Adam shouting out my name
Philippine think up preferably

1010
01:00:24,300 --> 01:00:27,720
with a Dutch accent and ended by
you've got karma Okay,

1011
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,970
hold on a second oh stop let me
do this. Let me get this out of

1012
01:00:29,970 --> 01:00:32,430
the way first. Okay, we can
continue okay

1013
01:00:38,730 --> 01:00:39,600
is a spy

1014
01:00:40,170 --> 01:00:40,800
Philippine?

1015
01:00:43,170 --> 01:00:44,850
You've got karma

1016
01:00:47,370 --> 01:00:48,930
All right now let's try to do it
right.

1017
01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:50,849
What was wrong with that? Okay,
here's

1018
01:00:50,850 --> 01:00:53,820
the problem. You had the George
Clooney you stepped on George

1019
01:00:53,820 --> 01:00:54,630
Clooney is a spy,

1020
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,690
though he's supposed to flow
together. She wants a ringtone.

1021
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:58,080
No, no,

1022
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,290
no, you stepped on at the
beginning. You were still

1023
01:01:01,290 --> 01:01:03,210
clearing your throat when you've
hit the George Clooney button.

1024
01:01:03,210 --> 01:01:07,470
And so he said it's like George
with a guy coughing Oh, like she

1025
01:01:07,470 --> 01:01:10,770
needs at least a half a second.
Okay. Silence. Oh, now the

1026
01:01:10,770 --> 01:01:13,500
second one is the second one is
when she says shouting out my

1027
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:18,840
name. Philippine think Ah. You
are so under under the DBS on

1028
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,460
that one. I could barely hear
you.

1029
01:01:20,490 --> 01:01:24,930
Okay, well, thank you for come.
Can you can you do a little more

1030
01:01:24,930 --> 01:01:29,850
producer like like, Okay, one
more time. That was a good first

1031
01:01:29,850 --> 01:01:35,910
try out. Um, let's do one more.
Safety. One for safety. Okay. I

1032
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:41,820
mean, five. Jewels. Did you step
on that?

1033
01:01:42,210 --> 01:01:44,130
I didn't do anything. I'm
listening.

1034
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,770
I must be in the clip. I'm
sorry. All right. I'm in five.

1035
01:01:48,930 --> 01:01:49,950
Jewels clue

1036
01:01:50,370 --> 01:01:55,410
George Jones is a spy.
Philippine think

1037
01:01:57,270 --> 01:02:04,470
you've got karma. Perfect.

1038
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,540
When you were a little tight at
the end there. You could have

1039
01:02:06,540 --> 01:02:09,180
given a half a second at the
end, but Okay, good to go.

1040
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:12,630
Okay. All right. That was good.
And what else she she's saying

1041
01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:15,930
her note? She says maybe you can
instal donation plan for people

1042
01:02:15,930 --> 01:02:18,270
who would like to receive a
personalised ring to okay, yes,

1043
01:02:18,270 --> 01:02:21,360
well, $505,000.10 Oh, is

1044
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,170
that the new number? 471. When
she paid, she paid? I like it. I

1045
01:02:25,170 --> 01:02:27,510
like I like it for 7110. Okay,

1046
01:02:27,870 --> 01:02:31,200
I plan on becoming a knight
being a lady. I prefer real

1047
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,890
knighthood instead of a lame
Dame hood. What does that mean?

1048
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:38,490
I don't know. She just I put the
word lame. And by the way, she

1049
01:02:38,490 --> 01:02:42,030
said she sends me a lot of info.
She's a real producer. She sends

1050
01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:44,010
lots of links and all kinds of
stuff.

1051
01:02:44,430 --> 01:02:49,170
She says is way more posh to
tell people you have been geared

1052
01:02:49,170 --> 01:02:49,800
dared

1053
01:02:49,890 --> 01:02:56,040
could read it. Credit.
surrendered, surrendered? Oh, I

1054
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,880
see what she wants. Okay, so you
can actually be knighted? Or

1055
01:03:00,150 --> 01:03:02,340
that what they say as you get a
ribbon and Holland like kind of

1056
01:03:02,340 --> 01:03:07,080
like an OBE in the UK. So she
wants to wait until I'm an

1057
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,090
honorary console and then

1058
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,070
I can Oh, have you give her
that?

1059
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,610
Which I guess she'll be
deserving of.

1060
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,260
Anyway, she says in the morning
to everybody in the morning.

1061
01:03:20,340 --> 01:03:25,350
David Varney $366.66, from
Apollo, Pennsylvania. And he

1062
01:03:25,350 --> 01:03:28,200
just sent a note in saying he's
getting to knighthood, no

1063
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,770
register. So double check. Let
me see if you made it. So he's

1064
01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:36,510
got 100 200 as 3345 He actually
I didn't send this on to Eric.

1065
01:03:36,810 --> 01:03:40,050
He has a night of night and 90.
I apologise. I couldn't get to

1066
01:03:40,050 --> 01:03:42,570
this prior to show 600. But I
hope you forgive the small

1067
01:03:42,570 --> 01:03:44,880
oversight. Thanks, you. Yes, he
has to be knighted. Otherwise,

1068
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,810
it'd be it'd be our fault. Yes.
Sorry about that. Eric.

1069
01:03:49,230 --> 01:03:51,660
That's all right. Because I also
remember to write down Elliot

1070
01:03:51,660 --> 01:03:53,250
Gardner, which you also forgot.

1071
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,400
When I'm sorry. Anyway. 100 200.
Yeah, he's got the numbers. So

1072
01:03:59,610 --> 01:04:01,440
yeah, I think he's short a
penny.

1073
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,830
Oh, it's okay. I'll kick that
one in for him. No problem. All

1074
01:04:04,830 --> 01:04:05,130
right.

1075
01:04:06,210 --> 01:04:11,400
And he'll also be the executive
producer for show 601 And then

1076
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:18,120
John do maggio in methylene,
Massachusetts. $3.33,

1077
01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:21,450
Matthew, Matthew and McLuhan
Mattoon.

1078
01:04:22,230 --> 01:04:25,230
I am new John and Adam for your
courage. Thanks. I have been a

1079
01:04:25,230 --> 01:04:27,690
listener for just a short time
but you have surely opened my

1080
01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:30,450
eyes wide to the mainstream
media mind control. I've been

1081
01:04:30,450 --> 01:04:33,660
long suspicious of big business
and media and the government and

1082
01:04:33,660 --> 01:04:36,360
until now, within an AES
assistance I can I really

1083
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,750
appreciate what they're trying
to do to keep us in line. But

1084
01:04:39,750 --> 01:04:42,630
one of my biggest pet peeves has
long been manufacturers practice

1085
01:04:42,630 --> 01:04:46,290
of freshness born on an
expiration date. And yes, I do

1086
01:04:46,290 --> 01:04:49,260
agree that products expire. But
come on, folks. This practice

1087
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:52,110
has turned in to aggressive
marketing. Companies are

1088
01:04:52,110 --> 01:04:55,170
convincing the slaves out there
that they throw away a perfectly

1089
01:04:55,170 --> 01:04:57,570
good product so that they can
run to the store and spend more

1090
01:04:57,570 --> 01:04:59,490
of their hard earned money on a
new fresher product and

1091
01:04:59,490 --> 01:05:04,170
I am Can I take some blame for
this? Okay, it's your fault. The

1092
01:05:04,170 --> 01:05:09,090
bornon is my fault. Yes. Do you
want to know why? I came up with

1093
01:05:09,090 --> 01:05:09,390
that?

1094
01:05:09,660 --> 01:05:14,160
Oh, the Bourne on for the
Budweiser beer? Yes. The Coke

1095
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,850
came up with it. Yes. You're the
Born on guy. Yes.

1096
01:05:18,209 --> 01:05:20,819
I'll tell you bowling. Would you
like to hear the story briefly?

1097
01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:25,139
Yes, give it to us. We company
was on ramp before it became

1098
01:05:25,139 --> 01:05:29,189
think new ideas. And Anheuser
Busch was our first client and

1099
01:05:29,189 --> 01:05:32,669
we built budweiser.com and Bud
light.com. And we built the

1100
01:05:32,669 --> 01:05:35,429
website because it had lots of
content with Clydesdales and

1101
01:05:35,429 --> 01:05:39,089
brew meisters and all this crap,
whatever, and bracing and music.

1102
01:05:39,239 --> 01:05:46,259
You have a date? It was like the
late 90s. I bet. No, 9494 95

1103
01:05:46,259 --> 01:05:51,449
very early on. So I don't know,
maybe even 95 I would say. And

1104
01:05:52,109 --> 01:05:55,709
at the time, every Budweiser
cannon beer had a barcode on it.

1105
01:05:56,009 --> 01:05:59,159
And while we were in St. Louis,
at the, you know, the original

1106
01:05:59,159 --> 01:06:02,279
brewery there, they they showed
us how you could calculate that

1107
01:06:02,279 --> 01:06:05,939
barcode number down to the
quarter hour when that beer came

1108
01:06:05,939 --> 01:06:10,919
off of the assembly line. So we
created a widget, a widget on

1109
01:06:10,919 --> 01:06:14,399
the website, where you entered
that number, and then you could

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01:06:14,399 --> 01:06:18,389
see when your beer was born, and
it was the Born on date of your

1111
01:06:18,389 --> 01:06:21,539
beer. And they liked it so much.
They started putting it on their

1112
01:06:21,539 --> 01:06:25,679
product. So I'm sorry.

1113
01:06:26,970 --> 01:06:28,410
I think they've started to stop.

1114
01:06:28,950 --> 01:06:34,170
Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no,
that was so successful for them.

1115
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:37,650
Of course I didn't get paid any
extra for it. But that was that

1116
01:06:37,650 --> 01:06:41,970
was the idea of meat carry.
Nothing nothing. But that's how

1117
01:06:41,970 --> 01:06:42,510
that happened.

1118
01:06:42,780 --> 01:06:45,960
DiMaggio goes on on the topic of
intervention in the scientific

1119
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,780
community. I've recently read
China's study where the author

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01:06:48,780 --> 01:06:51,120
details how researchers and
other influential people in the

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01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:55,800
scientific community are on the
payroll of big business to

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01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,980
promote their agenda Geez. And
slant studies of health

1123
01:06:58,980 --> 01:07:02,400
benefits. Yes, especially if
unhealthy foods those telling us

1124
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,730
what we and our human resources
should be eating are on the

1125
01:07:05,730 --> 01:07:08,640
payrolls of the businesses that
are producing the foods sounds

1126
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,660
familiar climate change, hey,
find my enclosed. 200 hours is

1127
01:07:12,660 --> 01:07:15,210
payment for your hard work and
continued efforts. I could use

1128
01:07:15,210 --> 01:07:18,150
some karma as I've recently been
shopping my it talents in an

1129
01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:23,400
effort to land a new gig with my
current employer. All right.

1130
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,700
What is Karma? Oh, why isn't it
firing? Here we go. Sorry about

1131
01:07:29,700 --> 01:07:29,880
that.

1132
01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:32,940
You've got karma.

1133
01:07:33,540 --> 01:07:37,170
And thank you for your courage
and for your support. Joan

1134
01:07:37,170 --> 01:07:37,890
DiMaggio.

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01:07:39,660 --> 01:07:48,510
Onward. Scott Blair in Missouri
City, Texas. $200.33 hailing

1136
01:07:48,510 --> 01:07:51,660
from Houston, I'm a day late and
$1 Short congratulations on

1137
01:07:52,380 --> 01:07:55,230
scuze me show 600 I'm a new
listener and greatly enjoy your

1138
01:07:55,230 --> 01:07:59,670
insights and media crap filter
I've already hit several friends

1139
01:07:59,670 --> 01:08:03,360
in the mouth with my fellow no
agenda business owner listeners.

1140
01:08:03,570 --> 01:08:07,230
I am an independent broker for
merchant services I will set up

1141
01:08:07,230 --> 01:08:12,180
a 33% monthly donation for any
referrals on Commission's earned

1142
01:08:12,330 --> 01:08:18,600
website is get paid concepts.com
Just let me know you're within a

1143
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:23,160
you out there listening get down
within a I'm down within a year

1144
01:08:23,340 --> 01:08:27,060
these give me some of the self
employed mac and cheese did he

1145
01:08:27,060 --> 01:08:33,840
karma your slaves get used to
Mac into a mac and cheese?

1146
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,940
Macaroni and Cheese shatter
melted together back in chains

1147
01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:42,600
mac and cheese mac and cheese
karma

1148
01:08:43,740 --> 01:08:46,200
mac and cheese Diddy karma Thank
you.

1149
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,700
Nice. I got a weird character
this Alex Sorlie

1150
01:08:50,729 --> 01:08:55,049
surely Yeah, we need to fix
these double byte encoding. This

1151
01:08:55,049 --> 01:08:55,199
is

1152
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,300
like the Microsoft issue.

1153
01:08:57,450 --> 01:09:01,290
Well I have it here on open on
the open open office

1154
01:09:02,370 --> 01:09:04,320
and it comes out okay. No,

1155
01:09:04,349 --> 01:09:07,379
no it doesn't. I have also had
the problem. But of course I'm

1156
01:09:07,379 --> 01:09:07,979
opening up

1157
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:13,620
oh it's a 00 with Oh with a line
through it with a flat line girl

1158
01:09:13,620 --> 01:09:18,750
mail does it? Yeah. He didn't
send a follow up email that I

1159
01:09:18,750 --> 01:09:24,660
can find. And he is in Bergen,
Norway and his $200 and then

1160
01:09:24,660 --> 01:09:29,850
Jackie or Jacqueline Priester in
Parts Unknown California. She's

1161
01:09:29,850 --> 01:09:32,250
couple of different addresses
know what to use. She did. She

1162
01:09:32,250 --> 01:09:34,830
actually didn't send the notice
she sent a cute little card. She

1163
01:09:34,830 --> 01:09:38,160
sent a card. Oh, that's always
nice. Yeah, it was a card and

1164
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,640
she's got to create this little
kind of boxy handwriting. It's

1165
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,910
just dynamite. I wish everyone
had was legible. But she didn't

1166
01:09:44,910 --> 01:09:47,520
say anything except thank you
for your courage, but it was

1167
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:53,430
very legible. Okay. And that
will conclude our donors for

1168
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:57,000
show six oh, wired producers,
I'm sorry. The producers for

1169
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:01,950
show 6012 executives and one two
Who's free for associates?

1170
01:10:02,370 --> 01:10:04,920
I thank you all very much. It's
so highly appreciated. These are

1171
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,550
real credits. And in fact, if
you go to IMDb and search

1172
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:10,830
around, you'll see lots of
people have their no agenda

1173
01:10:10,830 --> 01:10:13,080
executive producer and Associate
Executive producer credits

1174
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,540
listed in their IMDb, it
apparently helps you get work.

1175
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:18,900
But also you can use it anywhere
else score credits are accepted,

1176
01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:21,330
and you can just display them
proudly. And people go hey, what

1177
01:10:21,330 --> 01:10:24,960
do we have? Yeah, man by my
producer, executive producer

1178
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:25,380
shows

1179
01:10:25,380 --> 01:10:27,780
up on that blog, people use it
on their signature on their

1180
01:10:27,810 --> 01:10:29,880
email. And again, LinkedIn.

1181
01:10:30,930 --> 01:10:33,780
And we appreciate the support,
it keeps us going. And of

1182
01:10:33,780 --> 01:10:36,030
course, we'll have another show
on Sunday. And we will have a

1183
01:10:36,750 --> 01:10:40,530
general Thank you segment for
all of our producers coming up

1184
01:10:40,530 --> 01:10:44,070
in just a little bit here on the
show. And of course, as always,

1185
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:49,350
you can go to our website for
that.org/and A also can

1186
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:52,440
continuously need some
propagation of our formula.

1187
01:10:53,070 --> 01:10:57,780
Our formula is this, we go out,
we hit people in the mouth

1188
01:11:11,790 --> 01:11:16,620
one of the things that we have
been tracking for a while now

1189
01:11:16,620 --> 01:11:21,660
several years is the six week
cycle. And, of course, the six

1190
01:11:21,660 --> 01:11:25,650
week cycle. It could go away at
any time I think even put that

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01:11:25,650 --> 01:11:29,010
in the book. But it did show up
again almost to the day, maybe

1192
01:11:29,010 --> 01:11:30,060
one or two days.

1193
01:11:31,980 --> 01:11:36,210
I should mention I'm looking at
the cycle as centering on the

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01:11:36,210 --> 01:11:40,050
first of the month or the 15th
of the month and this right and

1195
01:11:40,050 --> 01:11:43,500
so what you end the debt makes
it easier for the bookkeepers

1196
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:44,610
and the and the budget

1197
01:11:45,150 --> 01:11:49,680
and an explanation again,
because people go a little crazy

1198
01:11:49,710 --> 01:11:53,940
on the tweeters. The six week
cycle is not just some event

1199
01:11:53,940 --> 01:11:59,790
that happens on the date by Oh
someone died. No. It is very

1200
01:11:59,790 --> 01:12:04,170
specific. The FBI, it is it is
also specific to the Federal

1201
01:12:04,170 --> 01:12:08,190
Bureau of Investigations. They
need to announce every six weeks

1202
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:12,060
some kind of thwarting of a
terror attack. And it's

1203
01:12:12,060 --> 01:12:15,570
typically done with a a patsy,
they've been going and honey

1204
01:12:15,570 --> 01:12:19,560
potting for months, so that they
can continue to justify their

1205
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,580
budget. So it's not always this
huge. Last one was the Wichita,

1206
01:12:24,030 --> 01:12:27,300
Kansas, a guy who's going to the
airport blow and blow up the

1207
01:12:27,300 --> 01:12:30,390
airport. Right? And then they
didn't even have the code to get

1208
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:32,820
onto the tarmac. And then this
kid

1209
01:12:32,849 --> 01:12:35,699
guy was set up he was brought
in, you know, it was so obvious.

1210
01:12:35,759 --> 01:12:36,119
I have

1211
01:12:36,150 --> 01:12:39,780
a I have a little rundown clip.
Well, I have a rundown too

1212
01:12:39,780 --> 01:12:43,110
and mine is probably pretty
complete because it's done by a

1213
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:46,410
freelancer. Okay, well, I can't
find any record of

1214
01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:50,730
what is the rundown?

1215
01:12:50,730 --> 01:12:52,440
Okay, six weeks ago if you think

1216
01:12:52,650 --> 01:12:55,020
that looks good, looks good.
It's longer than mine. So it

1217
01:12:55,020 --> 01:12:55,890
must be great.

1218
01:12:56,370 --> 01:13:00,120
It's it's pretty concise. ABC
Seven News. Oh,

1219
01:13:00,180 --> 01:13:03,240
it's It's America today. ABC.

1220
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:04,050
It's ABC.

1221
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,590
state television. homegrown
terrorists

1222
01:13:07,620 --> 01:13:10,290
in Northern California man is
now under arrest accused of

1223
01:13:10,290 --> 01:13:13,560
plotting to blow up targets in
Los Angeles and tonight we are

1224
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,920
learning more about the 20 year
old student obsessed with al

1225
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:17,430
Qaeda.

1226
01:13:18,210 --> 01:13:20,280
Dan Ashley and I'm Carolyn
Johnson. ABC

1227
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,800
SEVEN NEWS REPORTER Cornell
Bernard is live at San Joaquin

1228
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,860
Delta College in Stockton
tonight with more forest Cornell

1229
01:13:27,930 --> 01:13:30,600
we oh that's not fair. You put
30 minutes of intro in there.

1230
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:31,830
That's not really fair.

1231
01:13:31,860 --> 01:13:36,060
I wanted I was gonna take it out
straight to Cornell, but I

1232
01:13:36,060 --> 01:13:39,690
wanted to make sure that you
realise it was an ABC. Okay. You

1233
01:13:39,690 --> 01:13:39,990
gotta get

1234
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:42,480
on the campus of San Joaquin
Delta College tonight where

1235
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:45,570
Nikolas Tucson attended classes
fellow classmates he

1236
01:13:45,570 --> 01:13:47,610
didn't use his three names. Come
on. This is

1237
01:13:47,610 --> 01:13:49,860
both shocked that he was
arrested near the Canadian

1238
01:13:49,860 --> 01:13:53,490
border this morning on terror
charges trying to get to the

1239
01:13:53,490 --> 01:13:57,210
Middle East. I'll go active duty
after this semester ends. That's

1240
01:13:57,210 --> 01:14:00,510
20 year old Nicholas Tucson.
Last week he was interviewed

1241
01:14:00,510 --> 01:14:03,960
about someone wearing a fake
military uniform on the campus

1242
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,230
of Delta College in Stockton
this week. He's in federal

1243
01:14:07,230 --> 01:14:11,970
custody accused of supporting
terrorism is a wonderful

1244
01:14:12,270 --> 01:14:14,370
and most great explainer.

1245
01:14:15,870 --> 01:14:19,500
videos posted by Nicholas Tucson
on the internet paint a picture

1246
01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:23,250
of a young man fascinated with
al Qaeda. several videos on his

1247
01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:27,750
YouTube page depict terrorist
attacks against the US. Tucson

1248
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:30,210
appeared in federal court
Monday. He's accused of

1249
01:14:30,210 --> 01:14:34,140
exploring ways of supporting
violent extremist activities and

1250
01:14:34,140 --> 01:14:37,830
attempting to join al Qaeda.
Court documents say Tucson

1251
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:41,670
popped up on the FBIs radar last
summer after he posted several

1252
01:14:41,670 --> 01:14:45,390
terrorist messages on social
media, including a plot to bomb

1253
01:14:45,390 --> 01:14:49,890
the LA subway system. undercover
agents posing as extremists are

1254
01:14:49,890 --> 01:14:50,940
two sides crossed.

1255
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:57,360
How do you pose as an extremist?
Is it a hat you wear? Or hey,

1256
01:14:57,450 --> 01:15:00,990
look at me. You may be confusing
me for extremists he

1257
01:15:00,990 --> 01:15:04,800
told what I want my face on the
FBI is top 12 Most Wanted

1258
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,250
because that means I'm doing
something right. Dusan told

1259
01:15:08,250 --> 01:15:12,150
informants, he was trying to get
to Syria to fight alongside al

1260
01:15:12,150 --> 01:15:12,660
Qaeda.

1261
01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:16,770
It was shocking that someone
stood here delta would be known

1262
01:15:16,770 --> 01:15:18,330
as probably a terrorist.

1263
01:15:18,540 --> 01:15:21,960
Son's classmates say he was
quiet and like to play chess,

1264
01:15:22,020 --> 01:15:22,350
you are

1265
01:15:22,980 --> 01:15:28,020
a newly converted Muslim. But
never really. He never really

1266
01:15:28,020 --> 01:15:30,930
pushed it on to anybody. He
never said anything chooses

1267
01:15:30,930 --> 01:15:31,350
normal

1268
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,310
two sides and had load I've said
this, all I know is that he

1269
01:15:35,310 --> 01:15:38,640
moved back to California he's
been living with his mom to join

1270
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:38,700
the

1271
01:15:38,700 --> 01:15:41,970
California National Guard in
2012, but never made it to

1272
01:15:41,970 --> 01:15:45,780
bootcamp after failing to meet
education requirements. All

1273
01:15:45,780 --> 01:15:46,050
right.

1274
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:49,410
I'm sorry, idiot he was an
obvious idiot This is

1275
01:15:49,410 --> 01:15:52,950
educational requirements. That
guy could barely speak and walk

1276
01:15:52,980 --> 01:15:56,880
I have to play my clip because
they use you always have to have

1277
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,120
the three names you got to use
the middle name. I'm think Mike

1278
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:05,340
clip has a better YouTube video
of him doing some some talking

1279
01:16:05,340 --> 01:16:08,490
some Arabic crap, and it's
shorter, and it's shorter jocks.

1280
01:16:08,490 --> 01:16:10,530
I mean, I totally forgot about
him up until

1281
01:16:10,530 --> 01:16:13,350
today. Friends have accused
terrorists suspect Nicolas

1282
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:14,220
Michael Tucson.

1283
01:16:14,250 --> 01:16:17,670
There you go. Nicholas. Michael
Tucson. Dad. Now you're talking

1284
01:16:17,700 --> 01:16:21,030
it's surprising that the 20 year
old wash out from the US Army

1285
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:24,990
National Guard was in court
today. federal charges the feds

1286
01:16:24,990 --> 01:16:28,170
say to assault and bragged on
social media and to informants

1287
01:16:28,260 --> 01:16:32,070
about plans to join al Qaeda in
Syria. So they had the community

1288
01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:35,490
college student pulled off an
Amtrak bus at the US Canadian

1289
01:16:35,490 --> 01:16:38,820
border last night. He's also
accused of targeting the Los

1290
01:16:38,820 --> 01:16:42,810
Angeles public transportation
system, Aleikum slum to all my

1291
01:16:42,810 --> 01:16:46,560
brothers and sisters that's a
YouTube video posted last year.

1292
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,880
Complaint states are two sides
goal was maximum fear and the

1293
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,880
maximum blow to the US
government so he could watch it

1294
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,430
tumble and fall in the wake of a
civil war now

1295
01:16:56,460 --> 01:17:01,620
that's that's a report John Oh,
maximum fear. When Civil War

1296
01:17:01,620 --> 01:17:07,050
watch it tumble and fall like a
bar my brothers and sisters

1297
01:17:07,140 --> 01:17:10,710
agents alleged last December to
SOT also warn the informants

1298
01:17:10,830 --> 01:17:15,420
don't go to LA anytime soon. If
you go don't use the subway, the

1299
01:17:15,420 --> 01:17:18,570
LAPD wouldn't discuss this
specific case. But say there's a

1300
01:17:18,570 --> 01:17:21,570
lesson for everyone. If someone
behaves this way,

1301
01:17:21,750 --> 01:17:25,500
if you see something we want you
to say something. If something

1302
01:17:25,500 --> 01:17:29,490
looks a little unusual, and you
see some suspicious behaviour,

1303
01:17:29,700 --> 01:17:36,660
please do give us a call Come
on,

1304
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,780
okay, okay, you when you got the
better of the two clips, not

1305
01:17:39,780 --> 01:17:42,990
because it was he had all the
good details like he plays

1306
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:46,590
chess, well, because it has all
the good memes, it had the three

1307
01:17:46,590 --> 01:17:50,670
names, it had to see something,
say something. And then it had

1308
01:17:50,670 --> 01:17:53,730
the downfall of the government
Volker, this guy, this guy can't

1309
01:17:53,730 --> 01:17:58,140
even tie his shoes and and it
had washed out was also a good

1310
01:17:58,140 --> 01:17:59,010
little jab.

1311
01:18:00,030 --> 01:18:05,310
And then had a very nice tie in
that I'm now trying to download

1312
01:18:05,310 --> 01:18:08,370
really quickly because it had a
musical tie in. I don't know if

1313
01:18:08,370 --> 01:18:10,800
you caught it. Oh,

1314
01:18:12,150 --> 01:18:15,390
I did not catch a musical tie.
And is there a new? Yeah, well,

1315
01:18:15,390 --> 01:18:16,560
I'm hitting the market.

1316
01:18:17,220 --> 01:18:20,580
Well, you know, and in fact,
only you and I would probably

1317
01:18:20,580 --> 01:18:23,610
catch this one almost almost
done downloading. I mean, I had

1318
01:18:23,610 --> 01:18:25,020
to go purchase it real quick.

1319
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,760
And actually spending money
while doing the show. Yes. On

1320
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:34,680
the show itself. Yeah. What's
what's? Yeah. Dedicated ladies

1321
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:35,910
and gentlemen. I'm spending

1322
01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:39,150
a whole actually this was
expensive. This is. This is

1323
01:18:39,150 --> 01:18:43,440
$1.29. But it's it's i It's
okay, here it is. Come on load.

1324
01:18:44,219 --> 01:18:47,459
I can get an e book for 30 cents
less. Yeah, but

1325
01:18:47,519 --> 01:18:48,809
oh man. What

1326
01:18:48,810 --> 01:18:51,540
is going on? It doesn't work.
Yeah, it does.

1327
01:18:51,540 --> 01:18:59,280
I just I just just here it is
everybody. From our new Patsy

1328
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:06,390
for the six week cycle you want
on your own? You get it yet?

1329
01:19:07,500 --> 01:19:11,520
When you dawns on

1330
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,600
John, you know the song? I do,
but I'm not seeing that. And I'm

1331
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:16,860
trying to catch the tie in.

1332
01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:23,400
Well, what's the name of the
song? I don't know. Wait for the

1333
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:33,390
hook. What do you care for?
Everybody? Come on now. I got

1334
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:36,870
fast forward. Here we go.

1335
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:47,970
A long, long way to go. I'm
sorry. Yeah. I'm sweating. I'm

1336
01:19:47,970 --> 01:19:52,890
sweating. Also just released in
time for the six week cycle.

1337
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,010
Issue 12 of Inspire magazine.

1338
01:19:56,550 --> 01:20:00,600
Oh, it came out right on the
spot. Yep. I have not been able

1339
01:20:00,930 --> 01:20:03,570
to see the CIA and the FBI
working together. It's pushing

1340
01:20:03,570 --> 01:20:05,790
it aside the NSA nice to have
the guys in

1341
01:20:05,790 --> 01:20:08,820
one camp for a change, doesn't
it? Yeah, no, it feels good.

1342
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,910
Speaking of which, I think we
should we could move on to the

1343
01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:18,840
snow job report. Oh, I watched a
riveting. Of course, it was hard

1344
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,800
to find it. Although Luckily,
the Privacy and Civil Liberties

1345
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:30,780
Oversight Board tweeted, we're
gonna be on C span two. And let

1346
01:20:30,780 --> 01:20:33,660
me tell you, if you see this
video, and this is the

1347
01:20:33,660 --> 01:20:40,530
Presidential approved and
nominated board. Oh, wait,

1348
01:20:40,860 --> 01:20:42,840
before you go there. I just want
to mention that people that the

1349
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:47,100
next cycle is on May Day, May 1,
May Day May 1, thank you.

1350
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:54,330
This board was initiated and
nominated by the President. And

1351
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:59,940
if we've done the timeline, the
director Modine could not get

1352
01:20:59,940 --> 01:21:05,610
confirmed for 500 days. And then
he gets confirmed just two days

1353
01:21:05,610 --> 01:21:08,700
before the Snowden revelations.
It's amazing how this timing

1354
01:21:08,700 --> 01:21:13,410
works. Fascinating. Even he
thought it was fascinating. So

1355
01:21:13,410 --> 01:21:15,990
the board convenes and they've
gotten it's all lawyers, the

1356
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:20,760
whole its lawyers, wall to wall,
wall to wall, which is

1357
01:21:20,790 --> 01:21:23,280
disconcerting, because, you
know, we've got, who do we have

1358
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,450
on here we have on them. I wrote
down some of the names. We've

1359
01:21:27,450 --> 01:21:30,630
got David Medina, he's the he's
a lawyer. Of course, he is the

1360
01:21:30,630 --> 01:21:33,210
chairman of the Privacy and
Civil Liberties Oversight Board.

1361
01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:37,260
Brad Wiegmann, who was the
Deputy Attorney General for the

1362
01:21:37,260 --> 01:21:43,080
National Security Division, we
and then we have Rajesh de de

1363
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:48,210
Rajesh de who is the General
Counsel, the lawyer for the

1364
01:21:48,210 --> 01:21:52,770
National Security Agency. And
then we also have an interesting

1365
01:21:52,770 --> 01:21:56,070
guy who you'll hear in one of
these clips, I have James X,

1366
01:21:56,100 --> 01:22:01,620
Dempsey, James X Dempsey, I kind
of like that have an x as a

1367
01:22:01,620 --> 01:22:05,310
middle name, and James X.
Dempsey is from the Centre for

1368
01:22:05,310 --> 01:22:09,600
Democracy and Technology, and he
is also on your Privacy and

1369
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:15,240
Civil Liberties Oversight Board.
And what I like to play here is

1370
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,900
the first clip where in James
Medina said to the Brad

1371
01:22:18,900 --> 01:22:22,230
Wiedemann, the deputy, could you
please give me a an overview of

1372
01:22:22,230 --> 01:22:25,350
the definitions used in all
these conversations? I thought

1373
01:22:25,350 --> 01:22:30,210
that will be very handy for us
to have. Because what really is

1374
01:22:30,270 --> 01:22:33,570
a locator? You know, what a
locator is John,

1375
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:38,130
someone who finds cool places to
shoot movies.

1376
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:46,740
That's a scout. Okay. And I
think it's good, because I

1377
01:22:46,740 --> 01:22:49,470
learned a lot of things just
from hearing these definitions.

1378
01:22:49,470 --> 01:22:54,390
And it really will help you when
you may be if in the off chance,

1379
01:22:54,420 --> 01:22:58,440
you see some news about I don't
know, the everyone in the world

1380
01:22:58,440 --> 01:23:00,810
being spied on, it's good to
know, because you can, you know,

1381
01:23:00,810 --> 01:23:02,520
you'll know what's actually
being said, I'd like to

1382
01:23:02,700 --> 01:23:04,980
get back to some of the
definitions here. Which is there

1383
01:23:04,980 --> 01:23:08,100
some terms here be helpful to
understand your view of which is

1384
01:23:08,460 --> 01:23:13,920
what it means to Tarik, what is
the target? What is a tasking?

1385
01:23:14,190 --> 01:23:16,410
What is a selector? And what's a
directive?

1386
01:23:16,559 --> 01:23:18,899
I'm sorry, selector, not a
locator a selector,

1387
01:23:18,929 --> 01:23:21,479
if you could explain those
terms. And then because I didn't

1388
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,759
want to shift how those terms
might apply in the about

1389
01:23:23,759 --> 01:23:25,229
context. Okay,

1390
01:23:25,379 --> 01:23:26,399
I can take a stab at that.

1391
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:29,430
Definitely sounds like I can
take a stab at that I'm a

1392
01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:29,700
lawyer.

1393
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:34,050
So our target is the maybe I
should start with selector.

1394
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,970
Since that's the, the, the
operative term Never mind, lung,

1395
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,780
that selector would typically be
an email account, or a phone

1396
01:23:42,780 --> 01:23:49,620
number that you are targeting.
So this is the you get no

1397
01:23:50,670 --> 01:23:53,370
terrorist@google.com

1398
01:23:53,730 --> 01:23:59,490
Write this down John. selector
would be terrorist@google.com.

1399
01:23:59,490 --> 01:24:01,740
Okay, got it, you know,
whatever,

1400
01:24:02,130 --> 01:24:02,610
whatever.

1401
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,640
The address that you have
information about that if you

1402
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,130
have reasonable to believe that
that person is a terrorist, and

1403
01:24:08,130 --> 01:24:09,330
you would like to collect
foreign intelligence

1404
01:24:09,330 --> 01:24:10,740
information, reasonable to

1405
01:24:10,740 --> 01:24:11,880
believe, yes,

1406
01:24:12,660 --> 01:24:15,780
reasonable to very reasonable to
reasonable belief

1407
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,980
on that person's account. So
when you go up on that selector,

1408
01:24:20,130 --> 01:24:22,890
when we say go up on or target
that selector, that means we're

1409
01:24:22,890 --> 01:24:25,080
collecting information, we're
going to the provider, and

1410
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,120
getting information from it
related to that person's

1411
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,250
accounts that we're intercepting
in real time, and then

1412
01:24:29,250 --> 01:24:32,190
collecting the store community
in real time applications of

1413
01:24:32,190 --> 01:24:34,890
that particular account. Okay,
so that's what we mean by

1414
01:24:34,890 --> 01:24:38,010
targeting a selector. You're
using that selector, you're

1415
01:24:38,010 --> 01:24:40,890
providing that to the to the
company, that provider to get

1416
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,350
information on that account, or
if it's a phone number on that

1417
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:45,930
phone number. So that's when we
say selector. It's really it's

1418
01:24:45,930 --> 01:24:47,550
an arcane term that people
wouldn't understand what's

1419
01:24:47,550 --> 01:24:49,320
really phone numbers, email
addresses, things like that.

1420
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,940
So it's phone numbers, email
addresses, things like that.

1421
01:24:54,690 --> 01:24:58,620
Those are selectors that are
being targeted in real time in

1422
01:24:58,620 --> 01:25:00,990
and this is not he's not going
to mention this In the upstream

1423
01:25:00,990 --> 01:25:04,950
collection, which was on screen,
which is quote the collection of

1424
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:09,270
metadata and contents directly
from internet and phone cables,

1425
01:25:09,570 --> 01:25:13,170
that would be your, your second
street to room where they're

1426
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,690
literally tapping stuff off of
the fibre

1427
01:25:16,110 --> 01:25:17,970
and targeting it means that's
the one you're trying to get.

1428
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,700
They may be in communication
with other email addresses or

1429
01:25:20,700 --> 01:25:22,200
other phone numbers and so
forth. Those are not the

1430
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,660
targeted numbers or accounts,
those are others that are

1431
01:25:24,690 --> 01:25:27,600
incidentally acquired because
they're on the other end of

1432
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,690
these communications. So that's
what target is the one you're

1433
01:25:30,690 --> 01:25:33,330
going after. And the statute
requires that that target be a

1434
01:25:33,330 --> 01:25:37,770
non US person located overseas.
And so that's that's the foreign

1435
01:25:37,890 --> 01:25:40,110
determinations that we're
talking about as we go through

1436
01:25:40,140 --> 01:25:43,770
to great lengths to make sure
that that target is, in fact

1437
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,220
belongs to a non US person and
is located overseas. The other

1438
01:25:47,220 --> 01:25:51,630
two questions, tasking or task
tasking is when you're going and

1439
01:25:51,630 --> 01:25:54,240
saying, Okay, I want to task
this account means I want to

1440
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,000
collect information from that
account. So that's the

1441
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,150
collection, select the task a
selector, so you're identifying

1442
01:26:00,150 --> 01:26:01,890
that's when you take that
selector to the company and say,

1443
01:26:01,890 --> 01:26:04,560
this one's been approved, we
concluded that it is does belong

1444
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,440
to a non US person overseas, a
terrorist or proliferate or

1445
01:26:07,620 --> 01:26:11,160
cyber person, or whoever it is
cyber person. And then we go to

1446
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,280
the company and get the
information and directive. So

1447
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:15,780
drip directives are the

1448
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,350
backing up a little because
there's a word to use in there,

1449
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:24,150
I wanted to write it down. Or
the solicitation or something

1450
01:26:24,150 --> 01:26:27,990
like that Felicity taters,
solicitor, facilitator going

1451
01:26:28,020 --> 01:26:30,840
and saying, Okay, I want to task
this account means I want to

1452
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,600
collect information from that
account. So that's the

1453
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,750
collection, select the task, a
selector, so you're identifying

1454
01:26:36,750 --> 01:26:38,490
that's when you take that
selector to the company and say,

1455
01:26:38,490 --> 01:26:41,160
this one's been approved, we
concluded that it is does belong

1456
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,040
to a non US person overseas, a
terrorist or proliferate or

1457
01:26:44,220 --> 01:26:47,850
cyber person, or whoever it is,
and, and then we go to the

1458
01:26:47,850 --> 01:26:51,990
company and get the information
and directive. So directives are

1459
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:54,750
the orders that go to the
companies that say they have to

1460
01:26:54,750 --> 01:26:57,360
comply with lawful tasks. And so
that's the kind of more

1461
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,740
overarching order that goes to a
company provider and says, Okay,

1462
01:27:01,740 --> 01:27:05,880
you have a legal obligation to
comply with taskings that are

1463
01:27:05,940 --> 01:27:08,820
given to you. And here are the
rules and everything. And that's

1464
01:27:08,820 --> 01:27:10,170
all provided to them. So we

1465
01:27:10,170 --> 01:27:13,200
learned a lot of interesting
terms here. But there's

1466
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:14,160
something that odd by

1467
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:19,230
the way, the word I was looking
for was proliferator or how's

1468
01:27:19,230 --> 01:27:19,650
that?

1469
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,420
Well, it's like a cyber person.

1470
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:22,650
Okay.

1471
01:27:25,050 --> 01:27:28,440
Here's something that we did not
know. Obviously, the Privacy and

1472
01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:31,950
Civil Liberties Oversight Board
is working for us. That's why

1473
01:27:31,950 --> 01:27:34,050
they and you should see this
shit. They're not unlike some

1474
01:27:34,050 --> 01:27:39,060
cool room with guards and wooden
panels and a Deus. They're like,

1475
01:27:39,090 --> 01:27:43,050
they're like in a Marriott that
I'm not kidding, with a with a

1476
01:27:43,050 --> 01:27:46,890
skirt over the tables. And they
don't have mics that can turn on

1477
01:27:46,890 --> 01:27:50,370
or off their old aka AKG like
the beginning of like, the vocal

1478
01:27:50,370 --> 01:27:54,360
mics. And that's why here.
Everyone's moving the mics

1479
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,900
around. They have, you know,
bowls of candy, you know, like

1480
01:27:57,900 --> 01:28:00,900
little peppermints that the
Marriott provides. It's

1481
01:28:00,900 --> 01:28:01,710
pathetic.

1482
01:28:01,830 --> 01:28:06,180
It is pathetic. And by the way,
there's a lot of people do

1483
01:28:06,180 --> 01:28:08,550
conventions and stuff at these
Marriott's and these sorts of

1484
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:11,130
places, I know exactly what to
do. I've been in that kind of

1485
01:28:11,130 --> 01:28:15,330
room way too much. And it's
horrible. And then you go into

1486
01:28:15,330 --> 01:28:18,180
the lobby and then they have
some some food

1487
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,240
and everyone talks to you and
out of their mouth comes this

1488
01:28:21,690 --> 01:28:24,990
vile coffee smell that it is
made up

1489
01:28:24,990 --> 01:28:29,940
of cheap coffee and advice and
birthchart cheap crap that you

1490
01:28:29,940 --> 01:28:32,670
can eat if you can't dare to and
they always have the worst

1491
01:28:32,670 --> 01:28:33,540
croissants,

1492
01:28:33,810 --> 01:28:37,290
croissants and the bagels are
like dough balls of God knows

1493
01:28:37,290 --> 01:28:41,310
horrible. It's not actual food.
Yes. With with the cream cheese

1494
01:28:41,340 --> 01:28:46,740
in a in a little plastic
containers. Yeah, horrible.

1495
01:28:46,740 --> 01:28:49,380
Alright. But here's what we
learned David Medina, who was

1496
01:28:49,380 --> 01:28:52,380
working for us, and I appreciate
what this guy's doing. He's

1497
01:28:52,380 --> 01:28:54,750
going to ask a very important
question about the selectors,

1498
01:28:54,750 --> 01:28:57,990
which as you'll recall, is can
be an email address, like

1499
01:28:57,990 --> 01:29:02,640
terrorist@google.com, which, you
know, could be an obvious one to

1500
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,990
check out. It could be a phone
number, but it's not just the

1501
01:29:06,990 --> 01:29:10,440
phone number or the email
address, or the selector is the

1502
01:29:10,440 --> 01:29:13,800
statutory rationale for about
collections. Because if the

1503
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,700
target is the email account, or
the phone number, what is the

1504
01:29:17,700 --> 01:29:20,370
justification for gathering
communications between two

1505
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:25,200
persons? May it be to US persons
who are discussing at phone

1506
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,710
number or that email address,
but they are not themselves?

1507
01:29:29,580 --> 01:29:32,010
There's no two are from that
particular email address or

1508
01:29:32,010 --> 01:29:34,830
particular phone number. Why is
that targeting? That is

1509
01:29:34,830 --> 01:29:36,060
permissible under the statute.

1510
01:29:36,180 --> 01:29:38,580
So did you catch what he just
said?

1511
01:29:38,970 --> 01:29:41,610
No, that plain it is.

1512
01:29:41,610 --> 01:29:43,770
So let's say you have an email
address, which is

1513
01:29:43,770 --> 01:29:48,630
terrorist@google.com. And of
course that has been targeted

1514
01:29:48,630 --> 01:29:50,940
and they've given a directive
and they're tasking that so they

1515
01:29:50,940 --> 01:29:54,120
get the tracking that in real
time, however, that must be a

1516
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:59,280
non US person. However, if there
are two so if you and I, in our

1517
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,910
email come versation between
adam@curry.com and John at the

1518
01:30:02,910 --> 01:30:08,010
vortech.org mention
terrorists@google.com They can

1519
01:30:08,010 --> 01:30:12,540
net now that tap into our email
accounts if they could get into

1520
01:30:12,540 --> 01:30:18,840
it. And it's valid to now
eavesdrop on our conversation

1521
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,300
because we mentioned the
selector.

1522
01:30:22,410 --> 01:30:25,200
So the conclusionary. And in a
typical case, you're right, if

1523
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:29,160
you're targeting, you know, bad
guy@google.com we

1524
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:30,360
write this down bad New

1525
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:35,460
guy, bad guy, bad guy or bad guy
knows about terrorists, bad

1526
01:30:35,460 --> 01:30:36,750
guy@google.com

1527
01:30:37,590 --> 01:30:39,810
Your turn targeting that
person's account, their

1528
01:30:39,810 --> 01:30:42,930
communications, why bounce
collection is different is it's

1529
01:30:42,930 --> 01:30:44,250
not necessarily communication.
This

1530
01:30:44,250 --> 01:30:47,520
is called a bounce collection,
John abouts collection, which I

1531
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,470
got the what a lawyer term that
is about

1532
01:30:49,500 --> 01:30:52,650
that person's account, their
communications, why bounce

1533
01:30:52,650 --> 01:30:55,560
collection is different is it's
not necessarily communications

1534
01:30:55,740 --> 01:30:59,580
to or from that bad guy, but
instead about that selector. And

1535
01:30:59,580 --> 01:31:03,060
so what the court has concluded
is that when that statute uses

1536
01:31:03,060 --> 01:31:07,200
the term targeting a non US
person overseas, targeting that

1537
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:11,460
selector, qualifies under the
statute for targeting that non

1538
01:31:11,460 --> 01:31:13,470
US person overseas. So it
doesn't have to be targeting

1539
01:31:13,470 --> 01:31:16,140
necessarily, to or from but can
also target the communications

1540
01:31:16,140 --> 01:31:17,910
that are about a particular
selector.

1541
01:31:18,030 --> 01:31:21,030
So that's a different meaning of
target than earlier, which is

1542
01:31:21,030 --> 01:31:23,520
where you're focusing on an
account. Now you're discussing

1543
01:31:23,550 --> 01:31:26,220
targeted means discussions about
that account

1544
01:31:27,030 --> 01:31:29,550
about that selector. Correct. It
is

1545
01:31:29,610 --> 01:31:33,390
always focused on that account.
So I think the key is the

1546
01:31:33,420 --> 01:31:38,430
misperception that suddenly have
that abouts collection is

1547
01:31:38,430 --> 01:31:43,830
somehow about a keyword or about
the person that may be behind

1548
01:31:43,830 --> 01:31:47,760
that account. But all collection
under Section 702 Whether it's

1549
01:31:47,790 --> 01:31:52,470
upstream, abouts, which is a
subset of upstream, or prison is

1550
01:31:52,500 --> 01:31:55,110
all based on the selectors at

1551
01:31:55,110 --> 01:32:00,720
issue. So literally, if I were
to email you, which I'm sure at

1552
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:04,890
some point I've done and I put
in that email, Anwar al aulaqi

1553
01:32:05,190 --> 01:32:10,380
More some other douche knockaloe
was on the top 10 list. Now, if

1554
01:32:10,380 --> 01:32:12,810
I mentioned his email address,
I'm sorry. So on were

1555
01:32:12,870 --> 01:32:19,440
lucky@terrorists.org, or bad
guy@google.com. Now, both of our

1556
01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:25,890
email accounts can legally be
targeted for them to listen to

1557
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,740
upstream, which means in real
time, so they don't even need to

1558
01:32:28,740 --> 01:32:33,780
break into my email server. They
can just tap in real real time.

1559
01:32:33,930 --> 01:32:35,580
This is bullshit.

1560
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,270
Yeah, and here's one of the
reasons it is bullshit. I want

1561
01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:40,170
to target you.

1562
01:32:40,830 --> 01:32:44,640
Send me an email sent me an
email exactly send you an email

1563
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:45,180
about

1564
01:32:45,390 --> 01:32:48,270
bad bad guy. google.com. Hey,
Adam, what do you think about

1565
01:32:48,270 --> 01:32:52,740
bad guy? google.com? Yeah, now
you're far I don't even have to

1566
01:32:52,740 --> 01:32:57,810
answer. Right? And I don't even
have to be somebody you know, I

1567
01:32:57,810 --> 01:33:01,800
could be an NSA guy. What are we
gonna do bill to get around

1568
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:06,840
these rules? Hey, I got a great
idea. Why don't we just email

1569
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:07,530
everybody?

1570
01:33:07,860 --> 01:33:11,940
Here's our final clip. And this
was in one minute and 18

1571
01:33:11,940 --> 01:33:17,160
seconds, you will hear the
unfiltered. Exactly what was

1572
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:21,420
said in this hearing, which the
Guardian and The Washington

1573
01:33:21,420 --> 01:33:27,360
Post. And everyone wrote
100 1000s of words. Boy, great

1574
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,970
journalism, you're producing
great journalism people.

1575
01:33:32,220 --> 01:33:38,910
Trying to clear up another issue
in terms of the participation of

1576
01:33:38,970 --> 01:33:41,820
service providers who have the
awareness of service providers

1577
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:48,390
702 implementation is 702
implemented all 702. Now just

1578
01:33:48,420 --> 01:33:52,170
to clarify, when they talk about
service providers in this

1579
01:33:52,170 --> 01:33:55,230
context, this is very difficult
for people who who've been on

1580
01:33:55,230 --> 01:33:59,220
the internet for a while. That
is not your ISP that is not like

1581
01:33:59,220 --> 01:34:04,680
Comcast or Time Warner. That is
someone who provides an internet

1582
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:08,880
service that can be your
website, Yahoo, Google, Apple,

1583
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:10,230
exactly the exact sky ask

1584
01:34:10,230 --> 01:34:14,340
your question. I just came up
with Visscher. So okay, well,

1585
01:34:14,340 --> 01:34:19,410
I'm going back to this abouts
collection. So and I hate this.

1586
01:34:19,500 --> 01:34:21,150
I said so twice. That's okay.

1587
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,990
Hey, you said about stop. We
might. You might as well say

1588
01:34:24,990 --> 01:34:28,200
Anyways, if we're talking about
about anyways, let's talk about

1589
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:29,400
about a boot about

1590
01:34:29,430 --> 01:34:34,560
now. The if if you send me an
email about bad guy@google.com

1591
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:38,760
And whether you know me or not,
let's say you do that. And

1592
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,580
they're not monitoring my email,
supposedly, how do they know

1593
01:34:41,580 --> 01:34:45,210
this? Of course they know this.
How do they know this? Let's

1594
01:34:45,210 --> 01:34:47,940
start monitoring my email
already. Because they are

1595
01:34:48,540 --> 01:34:52,890
they are listening upstream all
the time, the metadata, upstream

1596
01:34:52,890 --> 01:34:53,610
metadata

1597
01:34:53,610 --> 01:34:58,410
content, it's not metadata. This
is raw content. Yeah, we'll

1598
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,410
surprise that. is nicer than
lying to us?

1599
01:35:02,610 --> 01:35:06,750
Hello. And the ones who are
really lying to us are this

1600
01:35:06,750 --> 01:35:08,070
service providers,

1601
01:35:08,250 --> 01:35:11,040
service providers who have the
awareness of service providers

1602
01:35:11,370 --> 01:35:17,160
702 implementation is 702
implemented all 702

1603
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:22,860
implementation is done with the
full knowledge and assistance of

1604
01:35:22,860 --> 01:35:27,060
any company that from which
information is obtained. Is that

1605
01:35:27,060 --> 01:35:30,780
correct? Yes,

1606
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:35,040
yes. So early on in the did you
hear that little that little

1607
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:38,910
thing before he answered? You
got the the the lawyers talking

1608
01:35:38,910 --> 01:35:41,040
to the lawyer going to go ahead
and just say just fine and say,

1609
01:35:41,370 --> 01:35:44,760
go ahead, bust them, you fucking
silica just say it Yes. Or no.

1610
01:35:44,910 --> 01:35:46,830
They know they're lying to
everybody. They're pretending

1611
01:35:46,830 --> 01:35:47,610
like they don't just go ahead
and

1612
01:35:47,610 --> 01:35:49,740
say it man permission is
obtained. Is that correct?

1613
01:35:52,590 --> 01:35:54,090
Yes, the answer is, yes.

1614
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:59,850
Early on in the debate, there
were some statements by

1615
01:35:59,850 --> 01:36:03,870
companies who may or may not
have been involved in the

1616
01:36:03,870 --> 01:36:07,620
programme, saying, well, we
never heard of prism. But

1617
01:36:08,010 --> 01:36:11,760
whether they ever heard of
prism, any company that was from

1618
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,630
whom information was being
obtained under 702 knew that it

1619
01:36:15,630 --> 01:36:16,530
was being obtained.

1620
01:36:17,610 --> 01:36:20,670
Correct. Prison was just an
internal government term that as

1621
01:36:20,670 --> 01:36:24,240
a result of the leaks became a
public term, but collection

1622
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,520
under this programme is done
pursuant to compulsory legal

1623
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,700
process that any recipient
company would have received.

1624
01:36:30,180 --> 01:36:34,980
So they know that they are that
their data is being obtained

1625
01:36:34,980 --> 01:36:36,690
because they would receive

1626
01:36:38,070 --> 01:36:39,600
who's asking this question?

1627
01:36:40,500 --> 01:36:44,280
James X. Dempsey, who was on the
PII the Privacy and Civil

1628
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:45,810
Liberties Oversight Board,

1629
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:47,010
I'm liking this guy.

1630
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,250
I told you, I like the guy. And
his middle name was cool. James

1631
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:55,440
X, Dempsey, Xavier. So what he's
saying is, wait a minute, these

1632
01:36:55,440 --> 01:36:58,230
Silicon Valley companies all
went like, we don't know

1633
01:36:58,230 --> 01:37:02,250
anything about this. They all
knew

1634
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,550
I protest to you, Mr. Obama, I'm
calling

1635
01:37:05,580 --> 01:37:09,720
I'm calling a president like
this, you lying sacks of poop.

1636
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:16,860
It's real, it's and a reminder
that these companies cannot

1637
01:37:16,860 --> 01:37:20,460
encrypt all of your data.
Because then their business

1638
01:37:20,460 --> 01:37:24,990
model falls apart. This is the
catch 22 If they were to really

1639
01:37:24,990 --> 01:37:29,880
encrypt all of your email so
that the upstream collection

1640
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:34,680
would falter, they could also
not put in advertising because

1641
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:36,930
they wouldn't know what you're
talking about, which is that one

1642
01:37:36,930 --> 01:37:42,600
of the main business principles
of Gmail, SEO would not work on

1643
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:46,170
Google if if you're if you have
end to end encryption of your

1644
01:37:46,170 --> 01:37:49,740
searches. So it's never going to
happen. And this is the big

1645
01:37:49,740 --> 01:37:55,230
secret of Silicon Valley. And
they are in bed they that NSA

1646
01:37:55,260 --> 01:38:01,530
equals Google. Facebook equals
FBI and there's some CIA in

1647
01:38:01,530 --> 01:38:07,170
there because they financed them
early on and this is what are we

1648
01:38:07,170 --> 01:38:10,380
seeing I'll play I will plug in
my television right now I'm

1649
01:38:10,380 --> 01:38:12,360
gonna plug it in here we go
plugging it in

1650
01:38:13,110 --> 01:38:16,260
minded everyone that there is no
proof yet there is no

1651
01:38:16,260 --> 01:38:21,030
identification. And so if we're
hanging that CNN should be

1652
01:38:21,180 --> 01:38:23,820
switched to Fox for a second he
don't know yet. Well.

1653
01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:30,180
That was all of your life. Okay,
commercial commercial. Mostly

1654
01:38:30,180 --> 01:38:31,380
just as good but there it is.

1655
01:38:31,769 --> 01:38:32,519
Identify

1656
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:37,170
some satellite spots debris in
flight 370 Search come

1657
01:38:37,170 --> 01:38:39,750
on five found a napkin in the
ocean.

1658
01:38:41,310 --> 01:38:44,160
I was just hoping that far and
it's funny because usually Fox

1659
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,380
and CNN are in sync on the
commercials.

1660
01:38:46,980 --> 01:38:49,650
That is what I noticed recently
they got different clocks. Oh

1661
01:38:49,650 --> 01:38:51,450
really? They Zoli recently
different

1662
01:38:51,450 --> 01:38:52,620
format. Oh, here we got we're
back

1663
01:38:52,830 --> 01:38:55,740
story just how many hours are
left in the Malaysia Airlines?

1664
01:38:56,580 --> 01:38:57,150
These black

1665
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,010
random sampling ladies and
gentlemen. And

1666
01:39:02,310 --> 01:39:05,670
that was very good. This is like
live TV.

1667
01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:09,570
Only we're not as hot as these
chicks I'm seeing which is kind

1668
01:39:09,570 --> 01:39:11,370
of ad that's

1669
01:39:11,790 --> 01:39:15,180
more money than we do and free
dinners. Hey.

1670
01:39:16,860 --> 01:39:20,940
So there you go. That is that so
they knew about it? They're

1671
01:39:20,940 --> 01:39:24,000
lying about it. They will not
change it because it ruins their

1672
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:29,400
entire model they are afraid
that somehow someone that of

1673
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:34,260
course it's really not going to
matter because people are so

1674
01:39:34,290 --> 01:39:38,730
dumb. So dumbed down I should
say it that they don't know

1675
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,670
there's like a this this is this
like water. I have my

1676
01:39:41,670 --> 01:39:46,350
electricity I have my Google's
you know, got my Gmail. It's

1677
01:39:46,350 --> 01:39:49,260
free. It's the way it is. Isn't
the government provide that? If

1678
01:39:49,260 --> 01:39:51,150
people said the government
provides your email, they go

1679
01:39:51,150 --> 01:39:51,870
okay, that's good.

1680
01:39:52,410 --> 01:39:55,680
It'd be this way it is today. So
okay, well, that makes sense.

1681
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:56,370
Nobody cares.

1682
01:39:56,670 --> 01:40:01,320
No, they absolutely do not give
a rat's ass and I do So I've

1683
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:05,040
been working with the void zero
sir 19 inch rack, we've been

1684
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:11,040
working on encrypting all of the
no agenda, everything's now with

1685
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,620
the DNS sec, by the way, so
that, you know, we will be

1686
01:40:13,620 --> 01:40:17,220
secure. And we cannot be
hijacked, and someone can't

1687
01:40:17,220 --> 01:40:20,040
just, you know, just all of a
sudden take over our website,

1688
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:23,520
which should take over the
website and whatever. Now, this

1689
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:23,700
does

1690
01:40:23,700 --> 01:40:26,850
bring me to another topic, which
I did want to discuss briefly.

1691
01:40:27,930 --> 01:40:32,520
This is I can because I was
severely severely disappointed.

1692
01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:36,540
Well, no, let me take that back.
I was very happy to see that I

1693
01:40:36,540 --> 01:40:42,810
want our bet. From last week,
let bet you went on the twit

1694
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:43,470
show.

1695
01:40:44,610 --> 01:40:46,860
And there was no money involved.
You still owe me $1 From a

1696
01:40:46,860 --> 01:40:47,880
couple of shows ago.

1697
01:40:47,910 --> 01:40:52,200
And the bet was that Leo would
be all in on the United Nations

1698
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:52,950
running it

1699
01:40:52,950 --> 01:40:56,190
shut down the show. To bet
because when you did that, if

1700
01:40:56,190 --> 01:41:00,000
you don't recall that right.
Yes. Yeah, yeah, no, no. He

1701
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,270
says, what what? How did you
last? How did you lose the bed?

1702
01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:04,500
Because you're

1703
01:41:04,500 --> 01:41:05,580
so predictable. Leo.

1704
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:09,240
I didn't say that. But I said
was what you said, which is

1705
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:12,450
you'd be all for it. Right? So
Leo is basically an

1706
01:41:12,450 --> 01:41:15,120
internationalist. He's all he's
all in on that. I would

1707
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,450
like to explain because this is
what was disappointing. No one

1708
01:41:18,450 --> 01:41:23,490
had taken two seconds of time to
investigate what really the deal

1709
01:41:23,490 --> 01:41:28,260
is with ICANN. They just read
some something from the verge. I

1710
01:41:28,260 --> 01:41:30,690
read it in the verge this must
be that this is must be Howard's

1711
01:41:30,690 --> 01:41:35,910
going down. This is tech news we
buy I hate to the harsh on it,

1712
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:38,340
but there were a couple other
people on that show and no one

1713
01:41:38,340 --> 01:41:43,170
did any work. First, let's
explain the difference between

1714
01:41:43,410 --> 01:41:49,560
IP ranges and domain names I can
does not hand out IP addresses.

1715
01:41:49,590 --> 01:41:53,190
Okay. There are three different
organisations in the world in

1716
01:41:53,190 --> 01:41:55,980
Europe, for instance, is right,
they hand out the blocks of IP

1717
01:41:55,980 --> 01:41:59,970
addresses. ICANN is not in
charge of that. They do not hand

1718
01:41:59,970 --> 01:42:04,590
out block ranges. They only do
the DNS resolution and work on

1719
01:42:04,590 --> 01:42:07,740
domain name disputes. I happen
to know a little bit about this.

1720
01:42:09,180 --> 01:42:15,390
Their charter and their mission
since 1997, President Clinton

1721
01:42:15,450 --> 01:42:19,620
made it very clear that the
ultimate goal he directed the

1722
01:42:19,620 --> 01:42:23,760
Secretary of Commerce, Commerce
to eventually privatise entirely

1723
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,970
the domain name system in a
manner that increases

1724
01:42:26,970 --> 01:42:30,000
competition and facilitates
international participation in

1725
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:34,260
its management. And
specifically, it was not to be

1726
01:42:34,260 --> 01:42:39,450
transferred to a governmental or
inter governmental body. Now,

1727
01:42:39,450 --> 01:42:42,990
this is what's interesting,
because this obfuscates the or

1728
01:42:43,020 --> 01:42:46,800
eliminates the immediate
transfer to a body like the

1729
01:42:46,830 --> 01:42:50,820
United Nations. So they had a
green paper that came out and it

1730
01:42:50,820 --> 01:42:53,400
was supposed to happen around
2000. But of course, it took

1731
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:57,930
much longer. And this I can
operation which really only they

1732
01:42:57,930 --> 01:43:00,870
took these big guy was a John
pastel, the guy who used to like

1733
01:43:00,900 --> 01:43:04,140
he had a, like a spreadsheet, I
think and he had all the domain

1734
01:43:04,140 --> 01:43:06,930
names and the rows and the IP
addresses that resolve to it.

1735
01:43:07,380 --> 01:43:10,920
It's basically just a big
database that maintains that

1736
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:15,360
which is an illusion that this
is the internet. We talked about

1737
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,490
that the other day, you can go
to the open Nick project, there

1738
01:43:17,490 --> 01:43:20,940
are many other ways to get your
point. Shut up, man, don't be

1739
01:43:20,940 --> 01:43:24,150
like that you have been beating
around the bush is the problem.

1740
01:43:24,210 --> 01:43:27,180
I have to remind people, not
some people come in for the

1741
01:43:27,180 --> 01:43:33,180
first time. It's because you're
impatient. I am. So there's a

1742
01:43:33,180 --> 01:43:36,360
transition plan for ICANN, which
has been on the bump and all

1743
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:40,560
these documents are the Clinton
transition plans all PDFs are in

1744
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:47,370
the show notes. Here's a an FAQ
that I need to read so you

1745
01:43:47,370 --> 01:43:50,160
understand where this is really
going and what is going to

1746
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,980
happen. And again, this is what
people believe the internet is

1747
01:43:52,980 --> 01:43:56,100
it's not it is not the network
itself is the layer of domain

1748
01:43:56,100 --> 01:44:00,060
name services on top, which is
replaceable. Why is the United

1749
01:44:00,060 --> 01:44:03,330
States initiating this
transition? Now? Answer I can is

1750
01:44:03,330 --> 01:44:06,030
an organisation that has made
matured and taking steps in

1751
01:44:06,030 --> 01:44:08,790
recent years to improve its
accountability and transparency

1752
01:44:08,940 --> 01:44:12,060
and its technical competence. At
the same time, international

1753
01:44:12,060 --> 01:44:15,120
support continues to grow for
the multi stakeholder model of

1754
01:44:15,150 --> 01:44:19,290
internet governance as evidenced
by the continued success of the

1755
01:44:19,290 --> 01:44:24,840
Internet Governance Forum and
the resilient stewardship of

1756
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:29,070
various internet institutions.
Important question are the

1757
01:44:29,070 --> 01:44:31,530
legacy top level domains
associated with the US

1758
01:44:31,530 --> 01:44:37,230
government eg.mil.gov and.edu
part of this transition? No, no

1759
01:44:37,230 --> 01:44:41,640
no no operational responsibility
for the three remaining legacy

1760
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,550
top level domains associated
with US government are not

1761
01:44:44,550 --> 01:44:48,120
impacted by this transition.
What will the role of

1762
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:51,690
governments in the developed in
developing the Trent what will

1763
01:44:51,690 --> 01:44:55,680
be the role of Governor Are you
reading this facts from from the

1764
01:44:55,680 --> 01:45:00,630
I can transition to plan is it
from it's an I Can Yes, I

1765
01:45:00,630 --> 01:45:05,400
can.org Yes. Okay, go PDF. What
will be the role of governments

1766
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,280
in developing the transition
proposal? Like the other

1767
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:11,010
stakeholders that are part of
ICANN multi stakeholder model,

1768
01:45:11,010 --> 01:45:13,800
we expect governments will have
an opportunity to provide input

1769
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:18,330
either via I cans Governmental
Advisory Committee, or as

1770
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:23,460
individual governments. NTIA
will not accept the proposal

1771
01:45:23,460 --> 01:45:25,980
that replaces the role with a
government or intergovernmental

1772
01:45:25,980 --> 01:45:30,270
organisations solution. And
here's the very interesting one

1773
01:45:30,270 --> 01:45:33,540
will the result of this process
effect very signs agreement to

1774
01:45:33,540 --> 01:45:38,610
operate the.com registry? No.
That is a separate agreement

1775
01:45:38,610 --> 01:45:41,700
between VeriSign and ICANN for
VeriSign, the only potential

1776
01:45:41,700 --> 01:45:43,950
change will be the maintenance
and publication of the root

1777
01:45:43,950 --> 01:45:47,640
zone. So those guys stay in the
game. And then that's a big

1778
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:50,460
moneymaker for everybody who's
involved. And if you want to get

1779
01:45:50,460 --> 01:45:53,550
a top level this this whole
thing is a commercial bullcrap

1780
01:45:53,550 --> 01:45:57,690
operation for money that could
have been managed much easier.

1781
01:45:58,230 --> 01:46:02,760
However, you heard the word
Internet governance and internet

1782
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:09,240
governments Governance Forum.
This is the problem. What is the

1783
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:12,330
Internet Governance Forum it
serves to bring people together

1784
01:46:12,330 --> 01:46:15,510
from various stakeholder groups
as equals but not to make

1785
01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:18,720
decisions or negotiate. Instead,
they discuss exchange

1786
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,840
information and share good
practices with each other. While

1787
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,870
the IGF may not have decision
making abilities, it informs and

1788
01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:28,170
inspires those who do un
connection or again, this is

1789
01:46:28,170 --> 01:46:32,730
from their own documentation.
And this is where this is where

1790
01:46:32,730 --> 01:46:34,950
you see where this is going.
More than 60 years ago, the

1791
01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:37,830
General Assembly of the United
Nations adopted the Universal

1792
01:46:37,830 --> 01:46:41,970
Declaration of Human Rights.
Negotiators then could not

1793
01:46:41,970 --> 01:46:44,760
possibly have imagined that a
quarter of a century later there

1794
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:48,450
would be a new invention, the
internet, and yet it seems they

1795
01:46:48,450 --> 01:46:52,200
had the internet in mind when
they drafted article 19 writing

1796
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,270
down kids, here's where they
would here's where the

1797
01:46:54,270 --> 01:46:57,030
government and the the New World
Order takes over your internet.

1798
01:46:57,570 --> 01:47:00,840
Quote. Everyone has the right to
freedom of opinion and

1799
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:05,190
expression. Semicolon. This
right includes freedom to hold

1800
01:47:05,190 --> 01:47:09,150
opinions without interference
and to seek, receive and impart

1801
01:47:09,150 --> 01:47:12,660
information and ideas through
any media and regardless of

1802
01:47:12,660 --> 01:47:17,580
frontiers. This article
encapsulates the very essence of

1803
01:47:17,580 --> 01:47:20,730
the internet and its borderless
nature, the internet is seen as

1804
01:47:20,730 --> 01:47:25,230
providing a crucial
international platform. So this

1805
01:47:25,230 --> 01:47:28,050
Internet Governance Forum and
then the I think the other one

1806
01:47:28,050 --> 01:47:34,800
is the G A F is staffed by as
the panel on global Internet

1807
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:40,290
Corporation is staffed by any
guesses?

1808
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:43,230
douchebags,

1809
01:47:43,980 --> 01:47:47,970
people from Google people from
Yahoo people from Apple people

1810
01:47:47,970 --> 01:47:53,520
from Microsoft. Why do you think
Google is providing free DNS to

1811
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:58,740
everybody? This is much worse,
much much worse than a direct

1812
01:47:58,740 --> 01:48:01,560
government takeover. The
internet is going to be run by

1813
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:05,370
people like Google. This is why
Vint Cerf is in here. And they

1814
01:48:05,370 --> 01:48:09,120
are going to going to determine
what internet freedom is, what

1815
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:12,270
Internet governance is, what the
rules of the road are going to

1816
01:48:12,270 --> 01:48:16,980
be. There's a document here 128
pages, written by Vint Cerf

1817
01:48:17,790 --> 01:48:23,310
about internet governance in its
art shared responsibility. This

1818
01:48:23,310 --> 01:48:27,210
is very, very bad people. It is
the internet as most people know

1819
01:48:27,210 --> 01:48:31,680
it is going to go away. This is
what I said. But I'm just giving

1820
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:32,910
the backup and the proof.

1821
01:48:33,210 --> 01:48:36,120
Yeah, well, you did better than
I did. I just saw it come in.

1822
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,490
It's like a fastball. I didn't
really bother to look at how

1823
01:48:38,490 --> 01:48:39,660
many seams were on it.

1824
01:48:40,260 --> 01:48:46,020
You just go shit going away.
Crap. It's, it's done. And but

1825
01:48:46,050 --> 01:48:46,710
ya know,

1826
01:48:46,710 --> 01:48:52,320
and I just saw Eric Schmidt.
They were playing his little

1827
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:56,190
talk with his buddies Cohen guy,
this State Department guy, which

1828
01:48:56,250 --> 01:48:58,350
is like the two of them
apparently travelled all over

1829
01:48:58,350 --> 01:49:02,190
together. And it's like a, it's
like Clooney and his buddy. And

1830
01:49:02,190 --> 01:49:04,230
they're flying around. And they
were being interviewed at the

1831
01:49:04,230 --> 01:49:09,570
Computer History Museum by
Sheryl Sandberg. After 15

1832
01:49:09,570 --> 01:49:16,530
minutes of seeing you for a
week. kissy kissy. So after that

1833
01:49:16,590 --> 01:49:20,520
they started and poor Eric had
because he's just who he is now.

1834
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:25,590
And he's now he just looked like
a guy who has was just in a

1835
01:49:25,590 --> 01:49:26,430
different world.

1836
01:49:26,519 --> 01:49:29,609
I think he dresses up in leather
and has that orange ball in his

1837
01:49:29,609 --> 01:49:33,989
mouth on weekends. Always, I
just wanted to read from a piece

1838
01:49:33,989 --> 01:49:39,089
of this 120 page document
written by Vint Cerf who is

1839
01:49:39,119 --> 01:49:42,599
works for Google. Of course,
he's very important scientist

1840
01:49:42,599 --> 01:49:46,859
and he created some very
important protocols, but screw

1841
01:49:46,859 --> 01:49:50,759
that if he works for Google.
This is the from the Tunis

1842
01:49:50,789 --> 01:49:55,529
Agenda for the information
society. This little intro and

1843
01:49:55,529 --> 01:49:58,889
it's written like a un document.
I'll just do it here. Example

1844
01:49:58,919 --> 01:50:01,979
introduction one we will
recognised which is bolded that

1845
01:50:01,979 --> 01:50:04,259
it is now time to move from
principles to action,

1846
01:50:04,469 --> 01:50:06,719
considering the work already
being done in implementing the

1847
01:50:06,719 --> 01:50:09,749
Geneva plan of action, and
identifying those areas where

1848
01:50:09,749 --> 01:50:13,499
progress has been made is being
made or has not taken place. We

1849
01:50:13,499 --> 01:50:16,709
reaffirm the commitments made in
Geneva and build on them and

1850
01:50:16,709 --> 01:50:20,099
Tunis by focusing on financial
mechanisms for bridging the

1851
01:50:20,099 --> 01:50:24,149
digital divide on internet
governance and related issues as

1852
01:50:24,149 --> 01:50:26,609
well as on implementation and
follow up of the Geneva and

1853
01:50:26,609 --> 01:50:31,859
Tunis decisions. Internet
governance, My God is a Spirit

1854
01:50:31,859 --> 01:50:36,269
makes me I literally I throw up
in my mouth. Number 31. We

1855
01:50:36,269 --> 01:50:38,819
recognise that Internet
governance carried out according

1856
01:50:38,819 --> 01:50:42,539
to the Geneva principles is an
essential element for a people

1857
01:50:42,539 --> 01:50:45,929
centred inclusive development
oriented and non discriminatory

1858
01:50:45,959 --> 01:50:50,549
information society. Fuck me
with a chainsaw Vint Cerf

1859
01:50:52,109 --> 01:50:55,199
Furthermore, we commit ourselves
to the stability and security of

1860
01:50:55,199 --> 01:50:58,229
the internet as a global
facility and to ensuring the

1861
01:50:58,229 --> 01:51:02,369
requisite legitimacy of its
governance based on the full

1862
01:51:02,369 --> 01:51:04,529
participation of all
stakeholders from both developed

1863
01:51:04,529 --> 01:51:06,299
and developing countries within
the respective roles and

1864
01:51:06,299 --> 01:51:09,749
responsibilities. And we thank
the UN Secretary General, for

1865
01:51:09,749 --> 01:51:13,889
establishing the Working Group
on Internet Governance that WGI

1866
01:51:13,889 --> 01:51:17,969
G. We commend the Chairman
members and Secretariat for

1867
01:51:17,969 --> 01:51:20,969
their work and their report.
This thing is all Geneva based.

1868
01:51:21,299 --> 01:51:24,779
It's all these assholes from
these companies who think

1869
01:51:24,779 --> 01:51:27,509
they're like, where's Bill
Gates? You might as well be the

1870
01:51:27,659 --> 01:51:31,049
oh, we have to make sure that no
one says poop. We'll make sure

1871
01:51:31,049 --> 01:51:34,769
no one says you're gay. Who
don't don't don't don't do but

1872
01:51:34,769 --> 01:51:35,099
make sure

1873
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:40,080
the link online no bullying.
This is horrible. I get it. You

1874
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:46,230
can play the clip to which clip
is that? Adam Curry's pet peeve

1875
01:51:46,230 --> 01:51:52,530
of the day, and while it's not
of the day is BS. Wow, it's a

1876
01:51:52,530 --> 01:51:55,800
good day. Today's day you came
up with it anyway. Okay, yeah.

1877
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,250
This We're doomed. It's all
about free speech. But I just

1878
01:51:59,250 --> 01:52:02,370
wanted to point us down the
shedding people up. Yes. If

1879
01:52:02,370 --> 01:52:05,220
people don't talk, and they
don't write things that are like

1880
01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:09,090
against the government, then
there will be no more wars. Adam

1881
01:52:09,090 --> 01:52:12,660
get with the programme, we have
to make people shut up. Yeah.

1882
01:52:14,010 --> 01:52:17,430
That's exactly right. And I'm
sorry, but I have not heard

1883
01:52:17,460 --> 01:52:21,330
anyone, or seen anyone point to
any of the simply available

1884
01:52:21,330 --> 01:52:26,010
documents in technology
reporting. Just to say, Hey,

1885
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,740
this is the deal. This is what's
really happening. Here's the

1886
01:52:28,740 --> 01:52:31,230
connections. Here's who's
running it. Google's going to

1887
01:52:31,230 --> 01:52:34,710
run a big part of this. With
Eric Schmidt. I'm sure it'll be

1888
01:52:34,710 --> 01:52:41,070
honorary chair knuckle of some
of this bullcrap. And the only

1889
01:52:41,070 --> 01:52:44,850
thing I'm happy about is that
the network is unstoppable. The

1890
01:52:44,850 --> 01:52:48,690
DNS and you will have to create
sub systems for that. No,

1891
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:52,770
torrents will be important, we
can still do that. But just a

1892
01:52:52,770 --> 01:52:55,530
website know that unfortunately,
see Mr.

1893
01:52:55,530 --> 01:53:00,330
Korea by looking at your bill
here at Time Warner. Yes, I

1894
01:53:00,330 --> 01:53:05,760
noticed that you've been using
some illegal DNS systems and not

1895
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:06,540
allowed anymore.

1896
01:53:06,630 --> 01:53:09,660
They'll block that off and but
you know, you

1897
01:53:09,660 --> 01:53:13,830
cannot we give you two more
strikes. Or you get no internet.

1898
01:53:13,890 --> 01:53:15,990
I mean, there's all kinds of
ways your stand. Do you

1899
01:53:15,990 --> 01:53:22,200
understand? I understand, sir.
I'm sorry, I will comply. Or

1900
01:53:26,820 --> 01:53:28,290
I have a transition clip. Yeah.

1901
01:53:28,290 --> 01:53:30,930
Well, let me let me just finish
this bit off your own,

1902
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:41,070
you will obey you will obey you
will obey will obey. So I'm just

1903
01:53:41,220 --> 01:53:44,310
I'm spending lots of time on C
span this week. So yeah, me too.

1904
01:53:44,970 --> 01:53:50,310
So I get this get this one. This
is the WTF clip. And I I'm

1905
01:53:50,340 --> 01:53:54,690
listening to this clip. So they
bring Syria back into the issue

1906
01:53:54,690 --> 01:53:58,770
at all. This was completely
alien to me. I always I always

1907
01:53:58,770 --> 01:54:01,830
thought this already happened. I
thought I was watching a rerun

1908
01:54:01,830 --> 01:54:02,910
but play this. The

1909
01:54:02,910 --> 01:54:06,450
Obama administration has
suspended the Syrian Embassy in

1910
01:54:06,450 --> 01:54:09,540
Washington and ordered the
expulsion of its diplomats and

1911
01:54:09,540 --> 01:54:13,650
staff. Secretary of State John
Kerry said the Assad regime has

1912
01:54:13,650 --> 01:54:16,860
lost the right to claim
diplomatic legitimacy.

1913
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:22,410
We just felt the idea that this
this embassy is sitting here

1914
01:54:22,410 --> 01:54:25,710
with representation that we
could take seriously is an

1915
01:54:25,710 --> 01:54:30,540
insult. And we close it's that
simple. And we'll see what

1916
01:54:30,540 --> 01:54:36,420
happens in other places. But the
Assad regime can never regain

1917
01:54:36,420 --> 01:54:41,010
legitimacy in Syria. Whether
they win don't win, they can't

1918
01:54:41,010 --> 01:54:42,180
regain legitimacy.

1919
01:54:43,170 --> 01:54:46,020
They got they need our help.
They got too many messages

1920
01:54:46,050 --> 01:54:47,520
messages changed.

1921
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:50,910
What what's in my way This is
Democracy Now Nazis, man, I just

1922
01:54:50,910 --> 01:54:53,880
want to apologise for that
mistake. What? What changed?

1923
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:54,780
Well,

1924
01:54:54,810 --> 01:55:00,330
what changed is apparently some
guy named Assad move out of

1925
01:55:00,330 --> 01:55:03,810
Syria and some guy named asshat
moved in. I can't I do hear

1926
01:55:03,810 --> 01:55:04,860
asshat all the time.

1927
01:55:08,250 --> 01:55:09,960
No, I will. Thanks.

1928
01:55:10,050 --> 01:55:14,070
I've programmed you to welcome
as that.

1929
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:20,190
Yeah. Listen to it, listen to it
again. You're just gonna drive

1930
01:55:20,190 --> 01:55:21,000
you crazy now.

1931
01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:25,380
The Obama administration has
suspended the Syrian Embassy in

1932
01:55:25,380 --> 01:55:28,470
Washington and ordered the
expulsion of its diplomats and

1933
01:55:28,470 --> 01:55:32,580
staff. Secretary of State John
Kerry said the Assad regime has

1934
01:55:32,580 --> 01:55:35,700
lost the right to claim
diplomatic legitimacy.

1935
01:55:36,390 --> 01:55:41,340
We just felt the idea that this
this embassy is sitting here

1936
01:55:41,340 --> 01:55:46,050
with representation that we can
take seriously is an insult. And

1937
01:55:46,050 --> 01:55:49,950
we closed it. It's that simple.
And we'll see what happens in

1938
01:55:49,950 --> 01:55:54,930
other places, but the Assad
regime can never

1939
01:55:54,990 --> 01:55:59,280
Could you sit asshat I put those
guys to rambling. Hey, hey,

1940
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:02,400
watch this. I'll say asshat. No,
no, no, it'll catch on. It'll be

1941
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:02,970
really funny.

1942
01:56:04,590 --> 01:56:09,300
As asshat Assad regime men.
Okay, sure. We were talking

1943
01:56:09,300 --> 01:56:11,940
about Snowden a minute ago. I've
got this Snowden clip. Do you

1944
01:56:11,940 --> 01:56:19,830
see the robots? Snowden? No.
Okay, so they have the TED

1945
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:24,870
Vancouver. Is it a TEDx? Or is
it a TED? Vancouver's got it?

1946
01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:25,890
Man. They've got it up there.

1947
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:29,940
This must be a TEDx. No, no,
this apparently Vancouver got

1948
01:56:29,940 --> 01:56:32,040
the real TED is it a boot stuff
like?

1949
01:56:33,540 --> 01:56:36,930
Like so Vancouver's got the TED.
And so they had Chris Anderson

1950
01:56:36,990 --> 01:56:39,600
appears to me came out and he
introduced note and because he's

1951
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:43,050
one of the main guest presenters
and runs to Ted, right. And so

1952
01:56:43,050 --> 01:56:49,650
so a robot comes out with a TV
screen as I had. No, and it's

1953
01:56:49,650 --> 01:56:50,370
Snowden.

1954
01:56:50,460 --> 01:56:57,930
No. Yes. I got to look at this
on a second. We played it. No,

1955
01:56:57,930 --> 01:56:59,040
you're still setting it up.
Okay.

1956
01:56:59,550 --> 01:57:02,910
So meanwhile, they take this
clip, and I think this may have

1957
01:57:02,910 --> 01:57:07,050
been on Democracy Now two, or
one of the news shows that I

1958
01:57:07,050 --> 01:57:10,770
think is Democracy Now. So you
so you have to listen to what

1959
01:57:10,770 --> 01:57:14,550
they clip from Snowden and what
he said, Because he makes about

1960
01:57:14,550 --> 01:57:17,700
Agda. But they only run about
six sentences of his nonsense.

1961
01:57:18,030 --> 01:57:22,830
It makes it's a non sequitur. It
makes absolutely no sense if you

1962
01:57:22,830 --> 01:57:25,830
try to listen to the what he
says and then try to take some

1963
01:57:25,830 --> 01:57:29,430
notes. And tell me what he said
because he's just play it

1964
01:57:29,460 --> 01:57:33,300
does a TED conference in
Vancouver, Canada. Speaking from

1965
01:57:33,300 --> 01:57:36,660
Russia through a robot that
wheeled out onto the stage,

1966
01:57:36,690 --> 01:57:40,110
Snowden urged global citizens to
work together against

1967
01:57:40,110 --> 01:57:42,330
unwarranted government
surveillance.

1968
01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:48,480
The last year has been a
reminder that democracy may die

1969
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:52,080
behind closed doors, but we as
individuals are born behind

1970
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:56,970
those same closed doors. And we
don't have to give up our

1971
01:57:56,970 --> 01:58:01,170
privacy to have good government.
We don't have to give up our

1972
01:58:01,170 --> 01:58:06,750
liberty to have security. And I
think by working together, we

1973
01:58:06,750 --> 01:58:11,250
can have both open government
and private lives. And I look

1974
01:58:11,250 --> 01:58:14,100
forward to working with everyone
around the world to see that

1975
01:58:15,270 --> 01:58:19,260
wow. You know what, I think
Glenn Greenwald stop writing for

1976
01:58:19,260 --> 01:58:21,660
him or something. Because that
was

1977
01:58:23,460 --> 01:58:26,940
overseas died behind closed
doors, but were born behind

1978
01:58:26,940 --> 01:58:29,670
those same closed doors. What
does that mean?

1979
01:58:29,700 --> 01:58:31,860
You can still have privacy and a
government.

1980
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,600
That's what he said. The whole
thing was ludicrous, a

1981
01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:40,290
sharp jump of epic proportions
and Tim Berners Lee is on stage

1982
01:58:40,290 --> 01:58:44,310
listening to this bullcrap. He's
Tim Berners Lee must be going am

1983
01:58:44,310 --> 01:58:46,860
man this is dumb. When I sign up
for this

1984
01:58:50,370 --> 01:58:54,900
whole thing was just ludicrous.
But the robot that took the cake

1985
01:58:55,410 --> 01:58:58,350
and this is yeah, I see. It was
not even it's like one of the

1986
01:58:58,350 --> 01:59:02,250
I've seen this in on a
commercial somewhere it's like

1987
01:59:02,250 --> 01:59:04,260
an 18 T commercial where you
know

1988
01:59:05,370 --> 01:59:09,480
that a robot with arms and legs
this is rolling thing Yes,

1989
01:59:09,510 --> 01:59:12,990
so there's a kid in the hospital
and the kid can't come to class

1990
01:59:12,990 --> 01:59:16,500
but this robot wheels through
the halls of the of the school

1991
01:59:16,620 --> 01:59:20,820
Yeah, really? Yeah, that
happened in my school Sure. No,

1992
01:59:20,820 --> 01:59:26,820
that's not how that's dumb so
stupid. Oh, I'm sorry Snowden

1993
01:59:26,850 --> 01:59:30,120
whatever it whatever he is or
what it's no I think you're

1994
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:33,810
right I think green jeopardise
jeopardise everything. And by

1995
01:59:33,810 --> 01:59:39,360
the way is everybody we're all
over this. This forget about it.

1996
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:42,000
It's so stupid. Why am I even
asking? The internet is dead

1997
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:46,200
man. No, I say definitely the
web is dead. Let's put that the

1998
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:51,330
web is captured hijacked. The
internet will never go away. The

1999
01:59:51,330 --> 01:59:56,220
network itself is indestructible
as intended. That's the good

2000
01:59:56,220 --> 01:59:59,730
news. That's why I have to write
my digital prepper book. So

2001
01:59:59,730 --> 02:00:03,900
people Know how to use it and
how to reboot things because

2002
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:07,740
what you've got now is not going
to cut it. It's all gonna go

2003
02:00:07,740 --> 02:00:08,070
away.

2004
02:00:11,099 --> 02:00:14,789
It's definitely on its way out.
I think we win this, this new

2005
02:00:14,789 --> 02:00:18,359
guy that took over icon. This
who's a multi CultI guy. I can't

2006
02:00:18,359 --> 02:00:19,829
tell where he's from. I think

2007
02:00:19,859 --> 02:00:21,929
he's, I think he's Persian.

2008
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:28,590
Whatever he is, he goes on. He's
just so good. Slap happy glad

2009
02:00:28,590 --> 02:00:31,890
that this is happening. This is
great. We're out of a job and

2010
02:00:31,890 --> 02:00:33,090
there's going to be
international.

2011
02:00:34,590 --> 02:00:40,230
He's not out of a job for hard
faddish fatty Shahad. Yeah, his

2012
02:00:40,230 --> 02:00:43,230
career has been defined by
building consensus and promoting

2013
02:00:43,230 --> 02:00:46,830
collaborative technologies and
practices. He has more than 25

2014
02:00:46,830 --> 02:00:49,770
years of experience in building
and leading progressive internet

2015
02:00:49,770 --> 02:00:55,920
enterprises. Let's see Mikado
LLC, a firm that as a provider

2016
02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:59,550
of cloud based software for the
administration of educational

2017
02:00:59,550 --> 02:01:05,880
institutions. Well, there's a
guy who set for life. I think

2018
02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:08,370
he's, I think he's Iran, Persian
Iran.

2019
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:11,250
He was brought in obviously to
bust it up a citizen of

2020
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:14,460
Egypt, Lebanon and the United
States. I guess he has three

2021
02:01:14,490 --> 02:01:21,960
citizenships. Born in Beirut to
Egyptian parents left the war

2022
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:25,830
torn country in 1980. He speaks
fluent Arabic, English, French

2023
02:01:25,830 --> 02:01:29,520
and Italian. Yeah, you're right.
He brought in to break it up.

2024
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:32,130
But I think he's he's going to
continue to lead this. He's not

2025
02:01:32,130 --> 02:01:32,940
going anywhere.

2026
02:01:33,300 --> 02:01:35,460
Well, just as he can keep
busting it up.

2027
02:01:35,820 --> 02:01:39,360
VINT CERF and Eric Schmidt. And
all these people are going to

2028
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:42,210
come in all these elites who
think they know better and

2029
02:01:42,210 --> 02:01:45,750
they'll goonyella Zuckerberg, I
can go the President did.

2030
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:50,370
DIX they called the president? A
bunch of days. I have him on my

2031
02:01:50,370 --> 02:01:51,870
speed dial. Seriously.

2032
02:01:51,870 --> 02:01:55,440
It's a bunch of dicks all these
people. But I'm sick of them.

2033
02:01:56,400 --> 02:02:01,020
I'm literally sick of them. And
they've hijacked you know, so

2034
02:02:01,260 --> 02:02:04,500
after this art talk yesterday,
I'll shut up about it. No, I

2035
02:02:04,500 --> 02:02:07,950
liked this discussion. Mickey
and I so we got to grab it. It's

2036
02:02:07,950 --> 02:02:10,770
like eight o'clock. And I've
worked all afternoon. Let's grab

2037
02:02:10,770 --> 02:02:13,500
a bite. And then I worked like
130 Because you know, that was

2038
02:02:13,500 --> 02:02:15,690
just in the middle. But I got by
prep school night, you know,

2039
02:02:15,690 --> 02:02:19,470
prep night. And we go to diner
24. here in Austin, which as the

2040
02:02:19,470 --> 02:02:22,140
name implies, it's a diner. It's
open 24 hours a day. It's great.

2041
02:02:22,140 --> 02:02:24,630
It's the best food in Austin if
you just want something good

2042
02:02:24,630 --> 02:02:28,140
parking, good food. Everything
good. Good. Good. And next to

2043
02:02:28,140 --> 02:02:32,040
us, is a glass hole. And I have
not seen one of these in the

2044
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:36,420
wild. So that is a person
wearing Google Glass. Yes. And I

2045
02:02:36,420 --> 02:02:39,000
say to Mickey and Duchess say,
look, there's one of those guys

2046
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:41,610
and she looks over. He says,
does he have a disability or

2047
02:02:41,610 --> 02:02:45,600
something? What's the thing on
his head? Like, that's exactly

2048
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,090
what it looks like. Looks like
you got a disability man like

2049
02:02:48,090 --> 02:02:50,550
your handicap where that big
thing sticking out of the back

2050
02:02:50,550 --> 02:02:55,440
of your head is ugly and dumb.
And of course, I made the joke

2051
02:02:55,440 --> 02:03:01,050
which all the glass holes hate.
Okay, Google show porn. And he

2052
02:03:01,050 --> 02:03:04,650
was like, Why you wearing that
thing? You look like a douche?

2053
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:10,320
It is bad. Oh, it's it's beyond
curious. You'll see him a lot.

2054
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:14,130
But you do see him? I've seen
him for months. And they really

2055
02:03:14,130 --> 02:03:17,250
do look like you just look
douchey I don't know what you're

2056
02:03:17,250 --> 02:03:20,220
trying to prove. I mean, I'm
using it for just know what time

2057
02:03:20,220 --> 02:03:22,680
it is or not. I know. It's
always showing the time.

2058
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:25,410
Anyway, this is your no agenda
show best podcast in the

2059
02:03:25,410 --> 02:03:33,450
universe as as evidenced by this
jingle, the best. And we are

2060
02:03:33,450 --> 02:03:37,410
medicine for your media malaise.
I'm gonna show my support by

2061
02:03:37,410 --> 02:03:38,370
donating to no

2062
02:03:38,370 --> 02:03:41,400
agenda. Imagine all the people
who could do that. Oh, yeah,

2063
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:42,120
that'd be fun.

2064
02:03:49,950 --> 02:03:53,490
All right, we have a few donors.
That's thanks and contributors

2065
02:03:53,490 --> 02:03:58,980
and producers George over Hoffer
in Jackson, New Jersey 1111. Can

2066
02:03:58,980 --> 02:04:04,200
I just make a little point of
order a parliamentary inquiry?

2067
02:04:04,710 --> 02:04:09,450
No. Just so people are not
confused. Executive producers

2068
02:04:09,450 --> 02:04:11,580
and Associate Executive
producers, we read your notes

2069
02:04:11,580 --> 02:04:14,370
verbatim on the air no matter
what's in there. We read

2070
02:04:14,370 --> 02:04:18,360
everything and we make we may
make a selection out of the over

2071
02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:22,560
50 donations. But we really just
you know, we just try to move it

2072
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:24,570
along. And thank you for your
courage and your kittens and

2073
02:04:24,570 --> 02:04:28,620
your puppies and all that. So
you know, this is the deal.

2074
02:04:28,620 --> 02:04:31,980
Otherwise the show dies. We have
no time for

2075
02:04:32,010 --> 02:04:34,170
we've already known this because
we've had and here's what

2076
02:04:34,170 --> 02:04:36,390
happened and I've told us that
somebody said I don't understand

2077
02:04:36,390 --> 02:04:39,840
why you don't play it. We'll
read all the notes. We were

2078
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:44,250
doing that for a while until it
became impossible because people

2079
02:04:44,250 --> 02:04:47,190
were weren't writing notes. They
were writing war and peace.

2080
02:04:47,220 --> 02:04:51,060
Yeah. And so they'd be like a
three page monograph about blah,

2081
02:04:51,060 --> 02:04:54,510
blah, blah. The way I see it,
you know, I saw this on Glenn

2082
02:04:54,510 --> 02:04:58,860
Beck and they go on and on and
then we try to edit it down a

2083
02:04:58,860 --> 02:05:01,650
little bit usually on the floor.
Why? Because he's spreadsheet

2084
02:05:01,650 --> 02:05:04,800
comes in in the morning. And
then they get mad that we didn't

2085
02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:09,600
read the whole No, you forgot to
mention my wife. So we

2086
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,660
eventually killed that part of
it. If you really have something

2087
02:05:12,660 --> 02:05:15,450
to say, you can become an
executive producer. And then you

2088
02:05:15,450 --> 02:05:18,540
can say it there. And you might
get lucky in this section. But

2089
02:05:18,540 --> 02:05:21,990
in this case, when somebody
sends in a check and then writes

2090
02:05:21,990 --> 02:05:25,170
a note, and then in the note,
there's some interesting stuff

2091
02:05:25,170 --> 02:05:25,950
and handwritten

2092
02:05:25,950 --> 02:05:29,700
notes do sometimes have priority
because they're fun to read, and

2093
02:05:29,700 --> 02:05:30,900
they're beautiful territory.

2094
02:05:31,620 --> 02:05:35,700
A lot of effort. Just donation
as a belated birthday gift to

2095
02:05:35,700 --> 02:05:38,880
the man who hit me in the mouth
last June, his name you asked

2096
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:43,050
future night Kevin McCarthy. He
just turned 30 I figured out

2097
02:05:43,230 --> 02:05:45,420
figured this would be the
perfect gift for the best friend

2098
02:05:45,420 --> 02:05:52,770
of 25 years. Oh, yeah. You may
also know just a peculiar amount

2099
02:05:52,770 --> 02:05:56,130
as I'd like to call his
girlfriend Kimberly to this day.

2100
02:05:57,720 --> 02:06:01,320
She earned her stripes at Club
33 When she recently questioned

2101
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:05,760
the show's accuracy at brunch
from now on any woman who

2102
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:08,730
questions the no agenda show
will be forced to dance.

2103
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:13,230
This is a good policy. Yes, you
will be fought

2104
02:06:13,290 --> 02:06:17,580
we believe those guys that can't
be true. How's the club now?

2105
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:19,170
From documents mostly?

2106
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:23,370
How was the club now? Can we
open this again? Sunday, Sunday

2107
02:06:23,370 --> 02:06:24,180
Sunday Sunday.

2108
02:06:24,420 --> 02:06:28,860
He's asshole inspectors. The guy
can't I told you about this

2109
02:06:28,860 --> 02:06:31,890
after the last the show that you
know that we have water damage

2110
02:06:31,890 --> 02:06:34,140
and we had to have another
inspection. The guy makes an

2111
02:06:34,140 --> 02:06:37,740
appointment, and then cancels
the appointment the same day.

2112
02:06:37,740 --> 02:06:40,080
Now I have to wait a week for
the guy to come back.

2113
02:06:40,110 --> 02:06:45,210
Oh, man. He's like we have these
guys here in Austin. I see them

2114
02:06:45,210 --> 02:06:47,910
at the neighbor's house have to
have trucks here and it's called

2115
02:06:47,910 --> 02:06:53,730
the code compliance force. And
literally their slogan is

2116
02:06:53,970 --> 02:06:58,680
protecting Austin's quality of
life. And they have uniforms and

2117
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:01,200
badges and shit and they're
looking for really Yes. And

2118
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:04,290
looking for I took a picture of
one the other day. Wow. Oh,

2119
02:07:04,290 --> 02:07:07,860
yeah, they're like cops. And
they got cop like cars.

2120
02:07:08,130 --> 02:07:12,000
Nowadays. They got uniforms and
he's got to be a cop lashing bad

2121
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:15,090
just like this in the third
thing. The hall monitor

2122
02:07:15,090 --> 02:07:15,690
syndrome.

2123
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:19,950
Everyone. Like everybody wants
to be a cop. Yeah, it is or SWAT

2124
02:07:19,950 --> 02:07:24,000
team. Yeah, even better little
towns have SWAT teams for it's

2125
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:26,610
never made sense to me. And then
they're always bused into the

2126
02:07:26,610 --> 02:07:28,590
wrong house and they never you
know, they wrecked the guys

2127
02:07:28,590 --> 02:07:31,770
shoot the guys dog is dog
shootings everywhere. Anyway,

2128
02:07:31,770 --> 02:07:39,720
and go on. Alright, so that's a
note from George Keith McAlpin

2129
02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:46,380
and Imperial Pennsylvania
$100.01. And he's He wants us to

2130
02:07:46,380 --> 02:07:49,290
work our asses off but he put
the one cent in is what he says.

2131
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:54,480
Sir is Philip Smith oslo norway
Philip Smith in Oslo, Norway.

2132
02:07:54,630 --> 02:08:00,510
$100. Thanks for your courage.
Richard Olson in Ellensburg.

2133
02:08:00,510 --> 02:08:04,860
Washington. In his wife, I think
his wife should get credit. I

2134
02:08:05,340 --> 02:08:09,000
didn't. I thought I put it in
there. I guess not. But he wrote

2135
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,930
the check. And I never heard of
Ellensburg Washington, which is

2136
02:08:12,930 --> 02:08:18,240
weird. Fabian sure Shoal in
Hannover, Germany. Deutschland

2137
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:21,240
sorry, been listening for years
finally deducing myself here

2138
02:08:21,240 --> 02:08:24,210
some value for value as a fellow
podcaster I have a lot of

2139
02:08:24,210 --> 02:08:25,260
respect for what you do.

2140
02:08:25,530 --> 02:08:30,390
I'll do a little DD. You've been
de deuced.

2141
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:37,500
Share shell. Sure, shell. Sure.
Sure. Sure. Danny Haynes and

2142
02:08:37,530 --> 02:08:42,420
Grayson's Australia, and he
emailed a separate comment,

2143
02:08:43,650 --> 02:08:50,940
which we read I guess. The ADA
ADA thing. Ah, yeah, sorry. 999

2144
02:08:50,940 --> 02:08:52,320
thing off to ya know, I

2145
02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:56,310
got the I got the you know,
today is not a good day on the

2146
02:08:56,310 --> 02:08:58,410
computer. I don't know what's
good. It's time you know, this

2147
02:08:58,410 --> 02:09:05,100
thing is this thing has been
around for so long. We've had

2148
02:09:05,100 --> 02:09:09,570
this for this is since San
Francisco days, man. Really?

2149
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:11,100
Yeah. This is like what is it?
No.

2150
02:09:13,980 --> 02:09:18,360
What? Not play the 999 thing for
the for our friend. That's what

2151
02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:24,150
I just did. Oh, okay. Anyway, he
said long, kind of a long note

2152
02:09:24,150 --> 02:09:29,490
about he finds a job. Great. And
so like, that's good. Anyway,

2153
02:09:29,490 --> 02:09:35,040
he's got to data that dot dot
dot, Daniel Brown. That's my way

2154
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:39,360
of saying 8888 AES in
Deutschland. He's in the armed

2155
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:47,670
forces. 7124, John Terada, who's
a common contributor 6969 69

2156
02:09:48,060 --> 02:09:50,700
It's crazy to get a whole bunch
of them and then it's always

2157
02:09:50,700 --> 02:09:54,510
two. Yes, two, two is to two

2158
02:09:54,870 --> 02:09:56,280
is another one to John

2159
02:09:56,280 --> 02:10:00,930
strain surgeon Antonioni. Sir
John by now I think so. It might

2160
02:10:00,930 --> 02:10:06,210
be that well, he's he was he was
a 600 producer. I don't know

2161
02:10:06,270 --> 02:10:09,780
why. He wants some karma and he
was Yeah, I do. Some karma.

2162
02:10:10,110 --> 02:10:11,940
You've got why not? Harminder

2163
02:10:12,209 --> 02:10:14,939
John John Terada wanted
Commerford. We will put that at

2164
02:10:14,939 --> 02:10:16,889
the end. Of course, Eric Nagel
in

2165
02:10:17,219 --> 02:10:21,059
Utrecht, Boone's halter
Spartanburg. Yes,

2166
02:10:21,090 --> 02:10:26,880
exactly. How do you know $60.02
Nicholas SAR Samara $6.01,

2167
02:10:27,150 --> 02:10:31,080
Robert Owens, Oak Hill,
Virginia, by the way, we counted

2168
02:10:31,080 --> 02:10:34,770
the votes. And we figured that
the dark show and the clip show

2169
02:10:34,770 --> 02:10:37,320
we're doing a clip show, so
that's what we're doing exactly

2170
02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:42,240
one for 20 and we're having our
clip show, expert. Ramsey.

2171
02:10:42,270 --> 02:10:45,390
That's right. Ramsey with a clip
show for us because he's, he's

2172
02:10:45,390 --> 02:10:49,800
good to show. He's good. He's
good. He's very good. Gabriel

2173
02:10:49,830 --> 02:10:54,330
Shabazz in in Irvine,
California. $60 Hans Hofner

2174
02:10:54,330 --> 02:10:57,360
these are all belated $60 Thank
you very much for doing 600

2175
02:10:57,360 --> 02:11:04,020
shows donations. Hans Hofner. In
Berlin, Deutschland. I missed

2176
02:11:04,020 --> 02:11:05,700
the deadline, he says but here
he is. He needs

2177
02:11:05,700 --> 02:11:07,740
some job karma that's coming up
at the end. They're pitching

2178
02:11:07,740 --> 02:11:10,260
music for a new series in
Germany, so they need to win

2179
02:11:10,260 --> 02:11:11,130
that thing. Okay.

2180
02:11:11,220 --> 02:11:14,850
All right, Hans. A new series
like a like acting series where

2181
02:11:14,850 --> 02:11:18,180
I can get a bit par Yeah, that
would be the one. I'd go to

2182
02:11:18,180 --> 02:11:24,240
Berlin for that. Steven Ruri
Ryko Rico and I think is Ryko.

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Each CEO was Winston Salem John
Porter Paisley. UK. Arthur a

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Govetts go bits in Zaandam

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Holland more cats and newsletter
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2186
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five Niner Niner

2187
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dogs and I've learned like eight

2188
02:11:45,959 --> 02:11:46,409
cats.

2189
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:48,930
I love the puppies were the one
that was petting the other

2190
02:11:48,930 --> 02:11:52,620
puppies head. It was very cute.
But the best but I get the

2191
02:11:52,620 --> 02:11:55,140
biggest kick out of knowing that
you are sitting there in your

2192
02:11:55,140 --> 02:11:58,050
chaise lounge searching for
puppy images.

2193
02:11:59,490 --> 02:12:00,870
I know it's disgusting.

2194
02:12:01,349 --> 02:12:02,699
The little creepy actually.

2195
02:12:03,690 --> 02:12:08,790
A little say the least. Error as
shots. It doesn't take that

2196
02:12:08,790 --> 02:12:14,280
long. I know how to look for
images, eras shots in between

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02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:21,030
Amina in Israel 60 Brian Navarro
la California 60 Anthony

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Rodriguez 5510 Who is on the
diamond Faber, Virginia. Anthony

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Rodriguez. I'm sorry, I just
said Anthony Rodriguez in favour

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of Virginia should have Kevin
Nunez in East Brunswick New

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Jersey double nickels on the
dime. Let's see. Liberty DECA

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yes and Rock Springs Wyoming

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02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:43,710
from my Wyoming for the
underappreciated show notes and

2204
02:12:43,710 --> 02:12:46,200
Adams quick response to a
technical issue.

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02:12:47,130 --> 02:12:50,760
On the show notes are incredibly
valuable. I think they're worth

2206
02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:55,380
the price of the all the money
that we get. Mark meshi in

2207
02:12:55,500 --> 02:13:00,330
Montgomery, Illinois, who was on
the dime, Stacy St. Armand in

2208
02:13:00,330 --> 02:13:04,710
Kingston, Ontario. These are all
$50 donors. And she has a she

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02:13:04,710 --> 02:13:07,650
has a note we have to read. My
brother pointed me to your show

2210
02:13:07,650 --> 02:13:10,920
and has been an I've been
listening religiously. My bro

2211
02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:14,760
says he's frugal, but I say he's
a cheap bastard. So please send

2212
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:18,900
a douchebag his way and
hopefully the show coughs up a

2213
02:13:18,900 --> 02:13:25,530
buck. Keep on the amazing debunk
work debunking. Thank you Stacy.

2214
02:13:26,010 --> 02:13:31,350
James wolgemuth in Everett,
Washington, 50. Michael gates,

2215
02:13:31,350 --> 02:13:35,370
Colorado Springs, Andrew
Halverson in Gravenhurst or

2216
02:13:35,370 --> 02:13:39,210
Gravenhurst Gravenhurst,
Ontario, Canada, Benjamin Smith

2217
02:13:39,210 --> 02:13:45,780
and Jamie Kidd $50. Nathan
Hansen in St. Paul, I do have a

2218
02:13:45,780 --> 02:13:49,920
note from Hansen, he's a lawyer
sent a nice typewritten note. He

2219
02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:55,890
says I would like he would give
some karma at the end. He needs

2220
02:13:55,890 --> 02:13:58,560
some work Chroma but he would
like to call out his friend

2221
02:13:58,590 --> 02:14:04,950
Tristan as a boner douchebag.
And finally, Mark Tannen in

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02:14:04,950 --> 02:14:07,470
Whittier, California with $50
Want to thank these folks and

2223
02:14:07,470 --> 02:14:10,980
everyone else who helped the
show get produced by helping us

2224
02:14:11,940 --> 02:14:14,700
pay for it and go to
direct.org/and A, we have

2225
02:14:14,700 --> 02:14:17,850
another show coming up 602 on
Sunday. We hope that people keep

2226
02:14:17,850 --> 02:14:19,110
up the pace here. Thanks.

2227
02:14:19,170 --> 02:14:21,600
And we most certainly do. We
need all the help that we can

2228
02:14:21,600 --> 02:14:24,960
get and continue because you
know, there's actual work being

2229
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:29,760
done here. You know, it's always
amazing to me, the couple of

2230
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:32,760
people that artists talking I
know what I do, like well, why

2231
02:14:32,760 --> 02:14:36,630
can't you come like why can't we
go out? No, because I work on

2232
02:14:36,630 --> 02:14:40,560
Sundays. Just so it's just a
microphone we just talking crap.

2233
02:14:42,090 --> 02:14:44,370
You just go on and spout
conspiracy theories.

2234
02:14:45,630 --> 02:14:46,380
They said that

2235
02:14:46,980 --> 02:14:52,050
it's not exactly that way. But
sometimes, you know, it's, we

2236
02:14:52,050 --> 02:14:55,050
make it look easy. That's what
it is. We make it look easy.

2237
02:14:55,470 --> 02:14:59,940
Please do try doing your pro.
Try do a show. Go ahead and do

2238
02:14:59,940 --> 02:15:02,940
it. Show. Right now I'd like to
give everybody some well

2239
02:15:02,940 --> 02:15:06,510
deserved karma. And this also,
of course includes our donors

2240
02:15:06,780 --> 02:15:10,410
who check in under the $50
level, which is often done

2241
02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:14,520
specifically, to remain
anonymous. I also have a note

2242
02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:17,790
here, John Adam wants a copy of
an email I got from PayPal

2243
02:15:17,790 --> 02:15:20,190
stating that you suspended my
monthly subscription, which I

2244
02:15:20,190 --> 02:15:23,100
know is not true. And it
happened because I got a new

2245
02:15:23,100 --> 02:15:27,420
credit card number, thank you
target. And due to this lie, I

2246
02:15:27,420 --> 02:15:30,090
will stop using PayPal for my
future donations to your show,

2247
02:15:30,090 --> 02:15:32,730
and I just set up an automatic
payment from my bank, you should

2248
02:15:32,730 --> 02:15:35,220
be receiving a check from them
by the end of the week. I think

2249
02:15:35,220 --> 02:15:37,530
you should keep reminding people
about this issue and how easy it

2250
02:15:37,530 --> 02:15:39,180
is to use your bank instead.

2251
02:15:40,380 --> 02:15:45,990
On the bank, that bank thing
works like a charm. I think the

2252
02:15:45,990 --> 02:15:48,690
banks are kind of you know, they
don't know what's going on. They

2253
02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:54,600
set it up. And it's like, they
have this service and it's free.

2254
02:15:54,630 --> 02:15:54,930
Yeah.

2255
02:15:55,380 --> 02:15:59,730
Yeah. Which is good for us too.
Yeah. So yeah, Pay Pal cancel

2256
02:15:59,730 --> 02:16:04,320
subscriptions all the time. On a
second note, I'd like to share

2257
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:06,840
my karma story. I recently moved
from Rhode Island to Las Vegas,

2258
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:08,790
Nevada. I've been trying to sell
my house in Rhode Island since

2259
02:16:08,790 --> 02:16:11,340
October I didn't get any offers
on it at all. I was paying two

2260
02:16:11,340 --> 02:16:13,590
mortgages for a couple of months
a bunch of money was very tight

2261
02:16:13,590 --> 02:16:16,050
but a spirit a few bucks and
decided to donate a little extra

2262
02:16:16,050 --> 02:16:19,140
for the show on February the
13th. Even though I didn't get

2263
02:16:19,140 --> 02:16:21,420
specific house still in common
because my amount wasn't high

2264
02:16:21,420 --> 02:16:24,720
enough thanks to general karma.
You guys sent out to all the

2265
02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:27,060
donors the very next day I got
an offer on the house and I'm

2266
02:16:27,060 --> 02:16:31,020
closing on it at the end of this
month. I was always a sceptic of

2267
02:16:31,020 --> 02:16:34,410
karma but this made me a
believer thanks for creating a

2268
02:16:34,410 --> 02:16:38,310
great and outstanding product
that no agenda show thank you

2269
02:16:38,310 --> 02:16:41,310
Greg W and for you sir and
everyone else here's your

2270
02:16:41,310 --> 02:16:49,140
general purpose karma take it
you've got karma and lovin and

2271
02:16:49,140 --> 02:16:52,140
then I have a quick mate good
from five nine or nine or Bernie

2272
02:16:52,140 --> 02:16:55,950
Glynn? From Bear Mountain New
South Wales Australia donated

2273
02:16:55,950 --> 02:16:59,880
$60.04 Of course he was voting
for what is the four was that

2274
02:16:59,880 --> 02:17:03,120
the clip show or that was just
to get out of the way or go dark

2275
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:03,570
or whatever it

2276
02:17:03,570 --> 02:17:05,700
was darkness five. Please help

2277
02:17:05,699 --> 02:17:07,379
us for the Sunday show. Go to

2278
02:17:07,500 --> 02:17:11,010
Data. vorak.org/in a

2279
02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:12,810
randomised will do this for a
moment.

2280
02:17:18,059 --> 02:17:21,359
Well, it's a big list of all the
one and it's the same Bernie

2281
02:17:21,359 --> 02:17:24,299
Glenn who celebrated his
birthday on March 13. Happy

2282
02:17:24,299 --> 02:17:28,559
birthday for your buddies here
to no agenda show. All right,

2283
02:17:28,559 --> 02:17:31,859
then we have a couple of nice
things to do. I've got David

2284
02:17:31,859 --> 02:17:35,519
Varney lined up. Then also
Elliot Gardner now Elliot

2285
02:17:35,519 --> 02:17:39,569
Gardner we met him on the Hot
Pockets tour Pennsylvania. His

2286
02:17:39,569 --> 02:17:42,809
birthday we celebrate his
birthday, I think last Friday

2287
02:17:42,809 --> 02:17:46,949
before show 600 and his brother
Andrew Gardner Sir Andrew

2288
02:17:46,949 --> 02:17:56,039
Gardner. He has so he has over
1500 in his his standings and he

2289
02:17:56,039 --> 02:17:59,639
is going to donate a part of
that to compensate and fill up

2290
02:18:00,419 --> 02:18:04,559
his brother's knighthood. So
because he already has he was

2291
02:18:04,559 --> 02:18:07,319
halfway there and so these
brothers of course are big

2292
02:18:07,319 --> 02:18:11,429
supporters of the show and we're
happy to night sir or Eliot

2293
02:18:11,429 --> 02:18:13,889
garden make him certainly a
gardener. I do not see if

2294
02:18:13,889 --> 02:18:19,889
there's a special name for him.
And we also have David drawl,

2295
02:18:20,609 --> 02:18:25,589
who was not knighted on show 600
So he is a black knight. doesn't

2296
02:18:25,589 --> 02:18:28,799
happen often but this one we
literally slipped on it. And he

2297
02:18:28,799 --> 02:18:34,379
will be served Mr. Texas of
Phoenix. So I'll get my blade

2298
02:18:34,410 --> 02:18:36,420
here. Didn't we have the one
that was at the beginning of the

2299
02:18:36,420 --> 02:18:38,100
show to that I found David
varney.

2300
02:18:38,130 --> 02:18:42,540
I gotta Varney just grabbed your
sword and yeah, okay, good. All

2301
02:18:42,540 --> 02:18:46,800
right. David Terrell come on by
Eliot Gardiner and David varney.

2302
02:18:46,800 --> 02:18:49,530
All three of you are now joining
the elite group the no agenda

2303
02:18:49,530 --> 02:18:54,030
roundtable of Knights and Dames
so hereby pronounce the sir.

2304
02:18:54,450 --> 02:18:59,010
Black Knights sir Mr. Texas of
Phoenix, surely a gardener and

2305
02:18:59,010 --> 02:19:02,280
Sir David Varney, gentlemen, for
you. I've got it right here.

2306
02:19:02,280 --> 02:19:05,400
Your hookers and blow your red
boys in Chardonnay. If you want.

2307
02:19:05,400 --> 02:19:08,730
I've got some bad science and
perky breasts, geishas and a

2308
02:19:08,730 --> 02:19:11,820
bucket of fried chicken hot
pants and booze, sparkling cider

2309
02:19:11,820 --> 02:19:15,300
and escorts maybe just a minute
and me. Congratulations, thank

2310
02:19:15,300 --> 02:19:17,220
you very much for your support
of the best podcast in the

2311
02:19:17,220 --> 02:19:19,680
universe. It's highly
appreciated, it keeps us going.

2312
02:19:20,340 --> 02:19:23,310
And it's a value for value
proposition. So clearly you've

2313
02:19:23,310 --> 02:19:27,090
gotten the value Thank you. Go
to nogen nation.com/rings to

2314
02:19:27,090 --> 02:19:31,260
pick up your ring sealing wax
and your official certificate so

2315
02:19:31,260 --> 02:19:37,500
that you can not continue to hit
people in the mouth. Yes,

2316
02:19:37,500 --> 02:19:42,840
indeed. I got let me see what
can we just do a little complete

2317
02:19:42,840 --> 02:19:45,570
internet so just a just a two
minute something completely

2318
02:19:45,570 --> 02:19:50,790
different? Yeah. Okay, this is a
video that I thought was really

2319
02:19:50,790 --> 02:19:54,840
nice to play the audio from or
you may you may or may not have

2320
02:19:54,840 --> 02:19:58,800
seen this. It's a two minute
video and it's really cute, old

2321
02:19:58,800 --> 02:20:05,580
fashioned. images, but the the
audio speaks for itself. And it

2322
02:20:05,580 --> 02:20:09,300
will put a little bit of this
crazy world into perspective. I

2323
02:20:09,300 --> 02:20:09,750
can't

2324
02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:13,470
believe we made it. According to
today's regulators and

2325
02:20:13,470 --> 02:20:17,010
bureaucrats, those of us who
were kids in the 50s 60s 70s or

2326
02:20:17,010 --> 02:20:21,090
even early 80s Probably should
not have survived. Our baby

2327
02:20:21,090 --> 02:20:24,210
cribs were covered with bright
coloured lead based paint. We

2328
02:20:24,210 --> 02:20:27,540
had no childproof lids or locks
on medicine bottles, doors or

2329
02:20:27,540 --> 02:20:31,020
cabinets. And when we rode our
bikes, we had no helmets. We

2330
02:20:31,020 --> 02:20:34,680
drank water from the garden hose
and not from a bottle. We ate

2331
02:20:34,680 --> 02:20:38,250
cupcakes, bread and butter and
drink soda with lots of sugar in

2332
02:20:38,250 --> 02:20:40,830
it. But we were rarely
overweight because we were

2333
02:20:40,860 --> 02:20:45,420
always outside playing. leave
home in the morning and play all

2334
02:20:45,420 --> 02:20:48,300
day. As long as we were back
when the street lights came on.

2335
02:20:48,750 --> 02:20:52,230
No one was able to reach us all
day smartphones, we didn't have

2336
02:20:52,230 --> 02:20:56,100
cell phones at all. No
Playstations Xboxes limitless

2337
02:20:56,100 --> 02:21:00,330
channels on cable laptops or
tablets. Facebook was an actual

2338
02:21:00,330 --> 02:21:04,590
face and an actual book. We had
friends we went outside and

2339
02:21:04,590 --> 02:21:07,620
found them. We played dodgeball,
and sometimes the ball would

2340
02:21:07,620 --> 02:21:11,310
hurt. We fell out of trees got
cut and broke bones and teeth.

2341
02:21:11,580 --> 02:21:14,730
And there were no lawsuits from
these accidents. No one was to

2342
02:21:14,730 --> 02:21:18,210
blame. But us remember
accidents. We had fights and

2343
02:21:18,210 --> 02:21:21,120
punched each other and got black
and blue and learned to get over

2344
02:21:21,120 --> 02:21:24,660
it. We made up games with sticks
and tennis balls. And although

2345
02:21:24,660 --> 02:21:28,560
we were told it would happen, we
didn't put out any eyes. We rode

2346
02:21:28,560 --> 02:21:30,630
bikes or walked through a
friend's home, knocked on the

2347
02:21:30,630 --> 02:21:33,240
door rang the bell or just
walked right in and talk to him,

2348
02:21:33,630 --> 02:21:37,710
literally had tryouts. And not
everyone made the team. Those

2349
02:21:37,710 --> 02:21:40,710
who didn't have to learn to deal
with disappointment. Some

2350
02:21:40,710 --> 02:21:43,290
students weren't as smart as
others. So they failed a grade

2351
02:21:43,290 --> 02:21:46,860
and we're held back to repeat
the same grade tests were not

2352
02:21:46,860 --> 02:21:50,130
adjusted for any reason. Our
actions were our own

2353
02:21:50,190 --> 02:21:54,480
consequences were expected. The
idea of parents bailing us out

2354
02:21:54,480 --> 02:21:57,990
if we got in trouble in school
or broke a law was unheard of.

2355
02:21:58,230 --> 02:22:01,800
They actually sided with the
school or the law. Imagine that.

2356
02:22:02,370 --> 02:22:05,370
Now this generation has produced
some of the best risk takers,

2357
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:10,350
problem solvers and inventors
ever. We had freedom, failure,

2358
02:22:10,410 --> 02:22:14,790
success and responsibility and
we learn how to deal with it. If

2359
02:22:14,790 --> 02:22:17,340
you've related to anything that
was just said you're one of

2360
02:22:17,340 --> 02:22:21,810
them. Congratulations. You made
it. I love

2361
02:22:21,810 --> 02:22:24,960
that can be congratulations, you
old fart. Yeah,

2362
02:22:24,990 --> 02:22:26,220
I like it congratulate.

2363
02:22:26,640 --> 02:22:31,770
This is the GED this night, I
did test this kind of thing. I

2364
02:22:31,770 --> 02:22:35,130
knew you would hate it. I knew
you would hate it. No, I mean, I

2365
02:22:35,160 --> 02:22:38,160
I'm not disagreeing with the
thesis. But it's just the

2366
02:22:38,160 --> 02:22:40,680
Pontifical aspect of it. And
this is the kind of thing it

2367
02:22:40,680 --> 02:22:44,310
shows up an email a lot. You
somebody says, Oh, this is good.

2368
02:22:44,310 --> 02:22:46,470
Oh, and they should say like,
get some it's chain letter. By

2369
02:22:46,470 --> 02:22:48,900
the way. It's not like
somebody's sincerely emailing

2370
02:22:48,900 --> 02:22:51,630
you they're passing along a
chain letter, which has a

2371
02:22:51,630 --> 02:22:55,110
laundry list of this crap. And
you know how to do you know, the

2372
02:22:55,110 --> 02:22:58,350
doors to cars used to be to tone
and they'd be all these kinds of

2373
02:22:58,350 --> 02:23:01,920
sentimental garbage. And I find
it detestable. It's like, it's

2374
02:23:01,920 --> 02:23:05,400
got nothing to do with the
problems at hand. But okay, you

2375
02:23:05,400 --> 02:23:08,130
know, we can bitch and moan and
be sentimental about the, about

2376
02:23:08,130 --> 02:23:11,220
the way things should have been,
or we used to be, or maybe they

2377
02:23:11,220 --> 02:23:13,170
were good, maybe they're best
beside the point. That's not the

2378
02:23:13,170 --> 02:23:16,650
world we live in. We do have
smartphones, it's the way the

2379
02:23:16,650 --> 02:23:19,680
way it is, and they're all gonna
get cut off someday by some

2380
02:23:19,680 --> 02:23:22,350
government takeover. If anybody
thinks that the one thing that's

2381
02:23:22,350 --> 02:23:25,980
never changed is the is the
warlike characteristics of the

2382
02:23:25,980 --> 02:23:29,190
human species. And it's going to
end up creating some horrible

2383
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:32,460
situation killing millions of
people, the way it always does,

2384
02:23:32,460 --> 02:23:35,070
and the cell phone connection is
going to be gone. And people

2385
02:23:35,070 --> 02:23:37,140
don't know what to do, because
they never got their ham

2386
02:23:37,140 --> 02:23:38,250
licence. That's.

2387
02:23:40,170 --> 02:23:43,140
And there it is your ham
licence. Exactly. Bottom line

2388
02:23:43,170 --> 02:23:48,690
ham. I was thinking the other
day, is it feasible? What is

2389
02:23:48,690 --> 02:23:54,720
your take on this? That the
human species, it was not has

2390
02:23:54,720 --> 02:23:59,730
not been able to evolve in pace
with what the internet delivers?

2391
02:24:00,030 --> 02:24:03,930
Oh, yeah. Do you know what I
mean? Yeah, we can't process we

2392
02:24:03,930 --> 02:24:07,890
don't know how to how to deal
with it. Because when you when

2393
02:24:07,890 --> 02:24:09,780
you listen to this, you know,
yeah, that's kind of how I grew

2394
02:24:09,780 --> 02:24:12,060
up. You know, we didn't have all
that stuff. And all of a sudden

2395
02:24:12,090 --> 02:24:14,190
internet. I don't think

2396
02:24:14,700 --> 02:24:18,030
internet is the worst thing
that's ever happened. The way I

2397
02:24:18,030 --> 02:24:18,420
see it,

2398
02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:21,570
I think you're right. It's the
best of times and the worst of

2399
02:24:21,570 --> 02:24:24,330
times right now in the same
bucket. But won't won't our

2400
02:24:24,330 --> 02:24:26,970
kids, will they? Will they? Or
will it be their kids that maybe

2401
02:24:26,970 --> 02:24:29,850
can do something or they all be
just these robots like Snowden

2402
02:24:29,940 --> 02:24:31,650
wheeling around on stage

2403
02:24:31,890 --> 02:24:35,460
is pretty much like the Futurama
show with Nixon's head in a jar.

2404
02:24:36,600 --> 02:24:40,050
The kids will just be sitting in
home, jerking off to porn, and

2405
02:24:40,260 --> 02:24:43,560
they'll be attending school on
those robots with wheels. Yeah,

2406
02:24:43,560 --> 02:24:49,260
some might be eaten Pop Rocks.
Yeah, it's true, though, as we

2407
02:24:49,260 --> 02:24:52,470
have no we don't understand how
maybe we need internet

2408
02:24:52,470 --> 02:24:55,080
governance. Maybe we need to be
rationed. Maybe.

2409
02:24:55,260 --> 02:24:58,740
I think I think just the powers
that be the elites have told her

2410
02:24:58,740 --> 02:25:02,190
she's trying to protect their
stuff throttle up once they get

2411
02:25:02,190 --> 02:25:05,310
their stuff, many of them got it
gotten ill gotten stuff and as

2412
02:25:05,340 --> 02:25:07,800
much of it as by accident, but
they've got it, they want to

2413
02:25:07,800 --> 02:25:10,440
keep it. They've they've decided
they're just gonna keep the

2414
02:25:10,440 --> 02:25:13,170
whole world in check as long as
they can and so they can enjoy

2415
02:25:13,170 --> 02:25:13,860
themselves.

2416
02:25:14,760 --> 02:25:16,860
Yeah, they're gonna throttle our
access.

2417
02:25:17,010 --> 02:25:19,440
So I got a couple of clips show
that you're gonna get a kick

2418
02:25:19,440 --> 02:25:21,810
out, Oh, good, I need a kick.
Well, you're not gonna get a

2419
02:25:21,810 --> 02:25:24,390
kick. The exclude clips are kind
of boring, but they're but what

2420
02:25:24,390 --> 02:25:26,820
the interesting thing was they
were on Charlie Rose, and I've

2421
02:25:26,820 --> 02:25:30,780
got three of them Ukraine about
this. The sanctions won't work.

2422
02:25:31,440 --> 02:25:35,820
Another expert, professor at
Barnard College talks confirms

2423
02:25:35,820 --> 02:25:40,170
your L liquid natural gas
thesis. But that's what it's all

2424
02:25:40,170 --> 02:25:45,030
about. And then the guy who's
the host, which curiously isn't

2425
02:25:45,030 --> 02:25:48,060
Charlie Rose. Oh, well, wait a
minute. Tell me about in this

2426
02:25:48,060 --> 02:25:49,020
sexuality.

2427
02:25:49,050 --> 02:25:51,960
It's in your DNA. Oh, that's a
bummer. Because I was already

2428
02:25:51,960 --> 02:25:52,530
for Charlie.

2429
02:25:52,710 --> 02:25:56,280
So when Charlie Rose goes away
for some reason, or maybe they

2430
02:25:56,280 --> 02:25:59,280
didn't want him on this
particular show. talking to one

2431
02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:03,210
of the guests is the is the
managing partner of the

2432
02:26:03,210 --> 02:26:05,340
Kissinger and Associates group.

2433
02:26:05,430 --> 02:26:06,870
Hmm. Sounds like a fun.

2434
02:26:08,130 --> 02:26:10,650
One is a professor at Barnard.

2435
02:26:10,680 --> 02:26:11,880
I'm Henry Kissinger, I'm

2436
02:26:11,880 --> 02:26:16,680
going to kill you. And the guy
who's now the host, you're going

2437
02:26:16,680 --> 02:26:21,300
to just die. Richard Haass, the
president of the Council on

2438
02:26:21,300 --> 02:26:22,620
Foreign Relations? Oh,

2439
02:26:22,620 --> 02:26:23,580
really?

2440
02:26:23,820 --> 02:26:24,570
Yes.

2441
02:26:25,020 --> 02:26:30,630
Guys, trying to make it more
obvious. Wow, okay, sanctions

2442
02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:31,440
won't happen. First,

2443
02:26:31,589 --> 02:26:33,149
let's just play these and read
and discuss,

2444
02:26:33,359 --> 02:26:38,009
how do I get placed in can a
government that is going to be

2445
02:26:38,009 --> 02:26:41,459
at a minimum in the near term,
not hostile to my interest is

2446
02:26:41,459 --> 02:26:45,569
not going to move closer to
Europe. And keep this Ukraine in

2447
02:26:45,569 --> 02:26:48,479
play to a point where I think I
can bring the whole thing and

2448
02:26:49,590 --> 02:26:51,960
Professor Martin, Kimberly just
basically said that sanctions

2449
02:26:51,960 --> 02:26:54,450
might not be able to do a whole
lot for us. What's your view? Do

2450
02:26:54,450 --> 02:26:57,390
you feel we've got economic
tools that could basically

2451
02:26:57,390 --> 02:27:00,450
persuade Mr. Putin to temper his
ambitions?

2452
02:27:01,020 --> 02:27:04,770
I think the short answer to that
is no. Because particularly,

2453
02:27:04,770 --> 02:27:07,320
we're not prepared to do a lot
of harm to ourselves.

2454
02:27:07,560 --> 02:27:09,450
But when you mean the United
States, Europe, or both,

2455
02:27:09,570 --> 02:27:13,770
I think it has to be both. It
has to be a consolidated, use

2456
02:27:13,770 --> 02:27:17,310
the term Western position. And
there's a lot of economic

2457
02:27:17,490 --> 02:27:21,840
hardship you could create, that
might cause Putin and Mr. Putin

2458
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:24,960
to rethink, but we would have to
be prepared to sacrifice a lot

2459
02:27:24,960 --> 02:27:28,170
on our sides. As, as Kim has
said, I mean, they are

2460
02:27:28,170 --> 02:27:30,720
intertwined. You can't hurt
Russia without hurting us in

2461
02:27:30,720 --> 02:27:33,630
some way. And the problem is
that when you look at this from

2462
02:27:33,630 --> 02:27:37,410
the standpoint of European
interest, and American interest,

2463
02:27:37,890 --> 02:27:40,500
not doesn't rise the level it
does in Russia, so they're

2464
02:27:40,500 --> 02:27:44,820
prepared to withstand a lot more
pain than we are. And I don't

2465
02:27:44,820 --> 02:27:48,420
think that we're prepared to do
that damage to ourselves to make

2466
02:27:48,420 --> 02:27:51,450
a point about changing borders
in Europe at this point.

2467
02:27:52,920 --> 02:27:55,800
All right. I just beat like to
beat the point of that this,

2468
02:27:55,800 --> 02:27:56,400
nothing's gonna

2469
02:27:56,460 --> 02:27:59,730
come up. And, of course, it's
all it's all just posturing and

2470
02:27:59,730 --> 02:28:02,760
it says, we just want the
missiles on the border, and just

2471
02:28:02,760 --> 02:28:06,150
try to pressure the guy when
he's weak and just go grab his

2472
02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:06,810
stuff.

2473
02:28:07,050 --> 02:28:10,650
Now, here's an interesting one.
This is the LNG thesis, and I

2474
02:28:10,680 --> 02:28:13,860
only clipped this because I
thought, because I know your

2475
02:28:13,860 --> 02:28:17,340
theory. And I like it. My
because my theory is simpler,

2476
02:28:17,340 --> 02:28:20,670
which is all about Snowden.
Although it's not, but I liked

2477
02:28:20,670 --> 02:28:24,600
that, that idea. But you're in
the LNG camp, which thinks that

2478
02:28:24,600 --> 02:28:27,330
you know that this is all about
getting our gas over there and

2479
02:28:27,330 --> 02:28:31,170
screwed. Big part of it. Not all
but no, but it's a big part of

2480
02:28:31,170 --> 02:28:34,860
it. And this is the woman she's
totally on board with this.

2481
02:28:34,950 --> 02:28:37,320
You've already expressed your
scepticism on economic

2482
02:28:37,320 --> 02:28:40,620
sanctions. But if the West, for
example, increased its military

2483
02:28:40,620 --> 02:28:43,890
collaboration with Poland and
others, if the West increased

2484
02:28:43,890 --> 02:28:48,060
its energy exports to challenge
Russia's advantages in that

2485
02:28:48,060 --> 02:28:52,560
area. Would Mr. Putin still see
this as so much the tipping the

2486
02:28:52,560 --> 02:28:54,360
balance in his face is Mr.

2487
02:28:54,360 --> 02:28:57,030
Putin bullcrap. What is that all
about?

2488
02:28:57,180 --> 02:28:59,850
The Council of Foreign
Relations. Mr. Putin, I'm sorry,

2489
02:28:59,850 --> 02:29:00,270
your river?

2490
02:29:00,780 --> 02:29:03,810
Well, I think actually what
Putin has done is to provoke the

2491
02:29:03,810 --> 02:29:08,010
West to do exactly those things.
And what is so amazing is that

2492
02:29:08,010 --> 02:29:11,790
Putin already had a great deal
of influence in Ukraine. Ukraine

2493
02:29:11,790 --> 02:29:15,540
is dependent on Russia for its
natural gas imports. There is

2494
02:29:15,540 --> 02:29:18,300
such a large Russian ethnic
population in Ukraine that it

2495
02:29:18,300 --> 02:29:20,850
meant that whatever coalition
government were to emerge over

2496
02:29:20,850 --> 02:29:23,370
the long term in Ukraine, Putin
would have influenced their

2497
02:29:23,940 --> 02:29:27,750
Putin was about ready to sign
contracts for aircraft

2498
02:29:27,780 --> 02:29:30,930
development, with Ukrainian
enterprises when all of this

2499
02:29:30,930 --> 02:29:34,980
went bad. And so in a sense,
Putin has brought on himself the

2500
02:29:34,980 --> 02:29:38,820
fact that now NATO is going to
focus on the East West divide in

2501
02:29:38,820 --> 02:29:41,220
a way that it hasn't been doing
since the end of the Cold War,

2502
02:29:41,490 --> 02:29:45,720
and has certainly made it
certain that Europe is going to

2503
02:29:45,750 --> 02:29:49,230
increase its capabilities to
accept liquid natural gas and

2504
02:29:49,230 --> 02:29:51,780
other forms of of natural gas
alternatives. So

2505
02:29:51,780 --> 02:29:55,560
when this happens, and the glow,
shall we say wears thin in

2506
02:29:55,560 --> 02:30:00,270
Moscow, and suddenly the Russian
economy is paying a price Russia

2507
02:30:00,270 --> 02:30:03,540
is even more isolated military
and NATO is essentially found a

2508
02:30:03,540 --> 02:30:07,860
new lease on life. Does Mr.
Putin then start confronting if

2509
02:30:07,860 --> 02:30:10,680
you will, second guessers and
saying, Hey, this may not have

2510
02:30:10,680 --> 02:30:13,080
been such a good thing for us
could could, even in the short

2511
02:30:13,080 --> 02:30:15,720
run, if this helps them in the
medium and long run could just

2512
02:30:15,720 --> 02:30:17,400
come back, could could this come
back and bite him?

2513
02:30:17,610 --> 02:30:19,530
Well, I'm sure what he's going
to try to do is blame any

2514
02:30:19,530 --> 02:30:22,350
economic problems on the west,
which he's done already with the

2515
02:30:22,380 --> 02:30:25,080
economic difficulties that
Russia currently finds itself

2516
02:30:25,080 --> 02:30:27,720
in. But what's really going to
make a difference is how the

2517
02:30:27,720 --> 02:30:29,850
leaders of the Russian
businesses that have been

2518
02:30:29,850 --> 02:30:33,690
internationalised recently react
to this. Gazprom is becoming a

2519
02:30:33,690 --> 02:30:36,360
pawn of the Russian state, and
it doesn't want to do that it

2520
02:30:36,360 --> 02:30:38,040
wants to be a profit making
entity.

2521
02:30:41,160 --> 02:30:42,210
What Who is that woman

2522
02:30:43,860 --> 02:30:47,550
left an envelope downstairs
again, but it's a professor with

2523
02:30:47,550 --> 02:30:48,030
the winner

2524
02:30:48,210 --> 02:30:51,720
was the winner in the envelope.
What was the winner in the

2525
02:30:51,720 --> 02:30:53,160
envelope? Ulis? Down left. Okay,

2526
02:30:53,160 --> 02:30:58,410
this was a bill. She's a
professor at Barnard College.

2527
02:30:58,980 --> 02:31:01,890
So something that I did pick up
on one thing in that clip that I

2528
02:31:01,890 --> 02:31:06,450
didn't know or maybe I did, but
I'm just the he was working on

2529
02:31:06,450 --> 02:31:09,990
an aircraft contract with the
Ukrainian manufacturers. Yeah, I

2530
02:31:09,990 --> 02:31:11,850
guess interesting. Brenton over

2531
02:31:11,850 --> 02:31:15,480
dead either. Maybe, anyway, let
me just wrap this up with this

2532
02:31:15,480 --> 02:31:18,060
guy. This is the Council on
Foreign Relations guy that most

2533
02:31:18,060 --> 02:31:21,150
of you would learn most most
about him by his questions

2534
02:31:21,150 --> 02:31:23,940
themselves. There's also a
buzzword in this last clip,

2535
02:31:23,970 --> 02:31:26,640
which I want you to see he ring
the bell when you hear it, which

2536
02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:31,200
I warned you about. And this is
just a random analysis about

2537
02:31:31,200 --> 02:31:33,750
what would happen if they you
know, they start arming these

2538
02:31:33,750 --> 02:31:36,600
guys. And it's obviously nobody
thinks that's a good idea.

2539
02:31:37,199 --> 02:31:39,539
If you were still in one of your
old jobs at the State Department

2540
02:31:39,539 --> 02:31:42,839
or the White House, and the
President said, Look, I don't

2541
02:31:42,839 --> 02:31:45,269
want to hear discouraging ideas.
What I want to hear are your

2542
02:31:45,269 --> 02:31:48,959
best ideas for what we can do to
get Mr. Putin to alter his

2543
02:31:48,959 --> 02:31:51,059
calculus, what would you tell
the president? Yeah,

2544
02:31:51,090 --> 02:31:58,290
there are? Two things. One is we
do have to recognise that is the

2545
02:31:58,290 --> 02:32:01,200
Ukraine question. And it's where
Ukraine is going to be located

2546
02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:06,210
economically and geopolitically
over the long term. And maybe

2547
02:32:06,210 --> 02:32:09,660
Russia had significant levers of
influence in Ukraine. But the

2548
02:32:09,660 --> 02:32:12,690
problem was that Ukraine was
drifting westward. That's what

2549
02:32:12,690 --> 02:32:16,860
the negotiation of the agreement
association agreement was all

2550
02:32:16,860 --> 02:32:20,070
about. NATO was still on the
table, even if push away on the

2551
02:32:20,070 --> 02:32:24,300
back burner at this point. So
one of the positive things you

2552
02:32:24,300 --> 02:32:27,960
tried to do is to take Ukraine
off the geopolitical table. At

2553
02:32:27,960 --> 02:32:31,170
this point, a lot of people have
talked about neutrality, non

2554
02:32:31,170 --> 02:32:36,300
alignment, how can you formalise
that in some way for some, for

2555
02:32:36,300 --> 02:32:40,350
some period to give Putin some
competence that Ukraine is not

2556
02:32:40,350 --> 02:32:41,310
going to be in play?

2557
02:32:41,550 --> 02:32:43,470
Well, the prime minister of
Ukraine just the other day

2558
02:32:43,470 --> 02:32:46,410
basically said, we have no
intentions of becoming a member

2559
02:32:46,410 --> 02:32:50,730
of NATO basically meant to
reassure shall we say, but this

2560
02:32:50,730 --> 02:32:54,600
would have to be something that
then is endorsed by the United

2561
02:32:54,600 --> 02:32:56,700
States to major European powers,
should that

2562
02:32:56,700 --> 02:32:59,400
be something the United States
is prepared to do, either on its

2563
02:32:59,400 --> 02:33:01,140
own or in exchange for something
else?

2564
02:33:01,200 --> 02:33:03,330
I think it's something the
United States should be prepared

2565
02:33:03,330 --> 02:33:05,910
to do on its own. And it's
something that you want to have

2566
02:33:05,910 --> 02:33:08,580
a conversation with, with Mr.
Putin about as well.

2567
02:33:08,610 --> 02:33:11,610
What about the question, as some
have said, of arming the

2568
02:33:11,610 --> 02:33:14,010
Ukrainians the idea that the
United States in the West would

2569
02:33:14,010 --> 02:33:17,040
provide arms, I've heard the
other side argued that that's

2570
02:33:17,040 --> 02:33:19,320
the worst of all options,
because it would be so slow to

2571
02:33:19,320 --> 02:33:22,140
have a real military effect yet
I might actually provoke Mr.

2572
02:33:22,140 --> 02:33:22,980
Putin to do something.

2573
02:33:23,010 --> 02:33:27,120
I mean, the problem we have is
Ukrainian state and the state of

2574
02:33:27,120 --> 02:33:30,720
the Ukrainian state. I mean, the
way you would deal with Putin,

2575
02:33:30,900 --> 02:33:33,630
ideally, is to build a
functioning Ukrainian state,

2576
02:33:33,630 --> 02:33:36,510
Russia moves into vacuums, or
they don't move into places

2577
02:33:36,510 --> 02:33:39,270
where they're going to be meet
stiff resistance.

2578
02:33:42,840 --> 02:33:43,710
Calculus,

2579
02:33:44,160 --> 02:33:47,670
calculus, calculus, I keep an
eye out for that word. I do have

2580
02:33:47,670 --> 02:33:51,240
one more clip I want to play
which is this is back going back

2581
02:33:51,240 --> 02:33:55,650
to the council and strategy and
international whatever, which is

2582
02:33:55,650 --> 02:34:00,660
the this is a little this is
like when we spotted the Crimean

2583
02:34:00,660 --> 02:34:03,600
thing. This is a saint, this is
a similar situation. Apparently,

2584
02:34:03,600 --> 02:34:06,270
there's a similar situation in
Moldova, this

2585
02:34:06,270 --> 02:34:09,480
is what what's his face? McCain
mentioned Moldova, didn't he?

2586
02:34:09,660 --> 02:34:13,830
Yeah, right. And this little
situation of everybody that's at

2587
02:34:13,860 --> 02:34:17,280
this think tank with all the hot
shots of Brzezinski and the rest

2588
02:34:17,280 --> 02:34:20,610
of them they all said this is
not thing to even talk about or

2589
02:34:20,610 --> 02:34:22,740
think about because we still got
to deal with the Ukraine we

2590
02:34:22,740 --> 02:34:23,820
should focus while

2591
02:34:24,630 --> 02:34:26,970
just while this is playing what
is the name of this think tank

2592
02:34:26,970 --> 02:34:28,080
again that everyone was at

2593
02:34:28,410 --> 02:34:32,730
the Centre for strategy
strategic, the Centre for

2594
02:34:32,730 --> 02:34:36,930
Strategic and International
Studies. Okay. Si si s and I

2595
02:34:36,930 --> 02:34:40,890
think the guy who asked this
question is from the I s another

2596
02:34:40,890 --> 02:34:44,130
one of these bullcrap operations
that are essentially just

2597
02:34:44,760 --> 02:34:47,580
policymakers for the you know,
the good for the State

2598
02:34:47,580 --> 02:34:49,230
Department, largely thanks to

2599
02:34:49,230 --> 02:34:54,270
fossilise boo her from the ISS.
There is another country which

2600
02:34:54,270 --> 02:34:57,840
has a common border with the
with an EU member and with a

2601
02:34:57,840 --> 02:35:00,930
NATO member and which has an
agreement With the EU, and

2602
02:35:00,930 --> 02:35:05,760
that's Moldova. And Moldova also
has its own Crimea in the form

2603
02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:10,860
of Transnistria, which is now
asking Russia to become part of

2604
02:35:10,860 --> 02:35:15,930
the Russian Federation. And
there is a game which is

2605
02:35:15,930 --> 02:35:20,790
beginning now, between Russia
and Moldova to get Moldova to go

2606
02:35:20,790 --> 02:35:27,540
to the Eurasian agreement in
exchange of trans history or not

2607
02:35:27,540 --> 02:35:35,010
being made part of Russia, what
should we be doing now? To

2608
02:35:35,040 --> 02:35:39,660
prevent that particular domino
from falling? Because if it

2609
02:35:39,660 --> 02:35:43,290
does, then you're going to have
a problem for Russia, of

2610
02:35:43,290 --> 02:35:47,370
territorial continuity between
Russia and Transnistria and

2611
02:35:47,370 --> 02:35:51,000
Russia and Crimea. And that
happens to be the southern

2612
02:35:51,210 --> 02:35:53,730
Borderlands of Ukraine.

2613
02:35:55,980 --> 02:35:58,680
Transnistria or trans mystery?
Which one is it?

2614
02:35:58,710 --> 02:36:03,900
Trans nistri tra N S n i s t r i
a

2615
02:36:03,930 --> 02:36:07,200
great name. Yeah, really like
that.

2616
02:36:07,439 --> 02:36:10,229
To break away state located
mostly on the strip of land

2617
02:36:10,229 --> 02:36:14,639
between the river didn't Nestor
and the eastern Moldova and

2618
02:36:14,639 --> 02:36:15,929
border with you the route with

2619
02:36:16,500 --> 02:36:18,690
right Right, right. Right.
What's what's going on there?

2620
02:36:18,690 --> 02:36:22,080
There's got to be something
valuable. Now, I don't know.

2621
02:36:22,260 --> 02:36:24,840
It's it's I'm looking. I'm
looking at the si si s

2622
02:36:24,840 --> 02:36:31,590
operative. $29.8 million in
2010. I've noticed a lot of

2623
02:36:31,590 --> 02:36:36,660
these these, these big think
tanks have not yet even filed

2624
02:36:36,660 --> 02:36:42,900
their 2012 form 990s which is
their past due now. I mean, you

2625
02:36:42,900 --> 02:36:48,870
can only get an extension until
October of 2013. Just like you

2626
02:36:48,870 --> 02:36:52,080
know, your own taxes like your
personal taxes. Yeah, you

2627
02:36:52,080 --> 02:36:53,280
can push it to one,

2628
02:36:53,550 --> 02:36:57,240
seven. But why? Why did these
big organisations what? What's

2629
02:36:57,240 --> 02:36:59,520
the problem? Why can't they just
do it? Why can't they do it?

2630
02:37:00,300 --> 02:37:02,790
I don't know what doesn't make
sense. You think they'd hire one

2631
02:37:02,790 --> 02:37:06,870
bookkeeper? Yeah, it's, it's
annoying. And I don't want

2632
02:37:06,870 --> 02:37:11,970
knowing but so what? So what I
mean, so what it's easy to get

2633
02:37:11,970 --> 02:37:14,160
your give, you're gonna be one
of these operations running

2634
02:37:14,160 --> 02:37:16,830
this, this this kind of business
with millions and millions of

2635
02:37:16,830 --> 02:37:19,680
dollars of cash flow. You know,
you're gonna have to be

2636
02:37:19,680 --> 02:37:23,520
responsible, it seems to me.
Other than that, that I think

2637
02:37:23,520 --> 02:37:25,680
it's anything but you know, as
far as I'm concerned, everything

2638
02:37:25,680 --> 02:37:28,140
should be just a wealth tax. But
either.

2639
02:37:28,350 --> 02:37:31,650
Yeah, no, but this should be no
nonprofits. This bowl.

2640
02:37:32,340 --> 02:37:35,550
Yes. That's true, too. It's just
a bunch of bullcrap paperwork,

2641
02:37:36,570 --> 02:37:40,410
your taxes? I can't find
anything about this operation.

2642
02:37:40,410 --> 02:37:42,780
Isn't this Transnistria I

2643
02:37:42,780 --> 02:37:46,740
find at least for nonprofits,
they should have to write in

2644
02:37:46,740 --> 02:37:50,220
detail who the donors are this,
this, they don't have to report

2645
02:37:50,220 --> 02:37:53,670
that I hate that. Why don't they
have to report who gives them

2646
02:37:53,670 --> 02:37:57,450
money? I think they should.
Every person if someone's going

2647
02:37:57,450 --> 02:37:59,400
to be able to deduct that tax,

2648
02:38:00,119 --> 02:38:03,149
if you're a working person and
you're getting your 1099 Because

2649
02:38:03,149 --> 02:38:07,409
you're a contractor, you are
reporting with the 1099 who

2650
02:38:07,409 --> 02:38:10,739
you're getting your money from.
So the citizenry is generally

2651
02:38:10,739 --> 02:38:14,519
reporting where they're getting
their money. Yes. The citizenry

2652
02:38:14,519 --> 02:38:17,969
So your point is absolutely
correct. Why aren't these people

2653
02:38:17,969 --> 02:38:20,699
reporting where they're getting
their money from? Because it's

2654
02:38:20,699 --> 02:38:25,259
dodgy and shady. It's very dodgy
very shady. I have all in on

2655
02:38:25,319 --> 02:38:25,619
this. I

2656
02:38:25,620 --> 02:38:29,100
have a little clip here. You
know, one of my favourite things

2657
02:38:29,100 --> 02:38:34,350
to track for many years now has
been the HPV, the HEPA pop up

2658
02:38:34,350 --> 02:38:39,240
and lack of my my virus. This is
vaginal warts, really, which

2659
02:38:39,270 --> 02:38:41,850
apparently you can get in your
throat if you will participate

2660
02:38:41,850 --> 02:38:46,320
in cunnilingus which is why boys
and girls all over the world

2661
02:38:46,320 --> 02:38:50,250
have been vaccinated with the
Gardasil vaccine. And I have

2662
02:38:50,250 --> 02:38:52,380
tracked this very closely
because one of the things that

2663
02:38:52,380 --> 02:38:54,720
we have seen in the past is you
think this

2664
02:38:54,720 --> 02:38:57,930
could explain a raspy voice as
some commentators sell seeds.

2665
02:39:00,090 --> 02:39:01,710
Yes, but that's not from
cunnilingus.

2666
02:39:07,440 --> 02:39:11,790
Ah, wow, that threw me off. At
one of the things that I found

2667
02:39:11,790 --> 02:39:15,990
so egregious first of all, the
vaccine does not really protect

2668
02:39:15,990 --> 02:39:19,140
you against all strains of
vaginal warts, the oh, they also

2669
02:39:19,140 --> 02:39:23,640
go away by themselves. Yes, that
can be you can get cervical

2670
02:39:23,640 --> 02:39:27,030
cancer, of course. But there's
very simple tests, you can do

2671
02:39:27,030 --> 02:39:32,160
the vinegar test, Pap smear. Of
course, they changed the Pap

2672
02:39:32,160 --> 02:39:36,270
smear not too long ago to a new
system, which has very high

2673
02:39:36,270 --> 02:39:39,390
false positives. And we've
tracked this consistently with

2674
02:39:39,390 --> 02:39:44,010
many women in my life and in our
audience. Where you get a false

2675
02:39:44,010 --> 02:39:46,560
positive you start freaking out
they say, Oh, you could be pre

2676
02:39:46,560 --> 02:39:51,510
cancerous, you pre cancerous,
your pre dead in the go through

2677
02:39:51,510 --> 02:39:53,910
all these crazy tests, and then
you do another test and then

2678
02:39:53,940 --> 02:39:57,150
nine out of 10 cases it's okay.
But you know what? Just so that

2679
02:39:57,150 --> 02:40:00,000
never happens again. Why don't
you take the first of two guard

2680
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:02,970
There's all shots which will
only cost your insurance $350

2681
02:40:03,510 --> 02:40:06,510
big scam as far as I'm
concerned. And then there's a

2682
02:40:06,510 --> 02:40:09,870
lot of side effects and things
that that, you know, I don't

2683
02:40:09,870 --> 02:40:14,790
want to get into all that but
this is there's some evidence

2684
02:40:14,790 --> 02:40:19,980
that this HPV virus not helpful
to a lot of young girls. There

2685
02:40:19,980 --> 02:40:25,770
very surprised to find out that
Roche now, Merck makes the

2686
02:40:25,770 --> 02:40:32,130
Gardasil Roche is has been
approved by the FDA with their

2687
02:40:32,130 --> 02:40:37,770
new test, which will do away
with pap smears in schmeer pap

2688
02:40:37,770 --> 02:40:38,700
smears.

2689
02:40:40,050 --> 02:40:41,610
Bagel, it is the

2690
02:40:41,610 --> 02:40:44,520
actually, it'll do with pap
smears all together and will be

2691
02:40:44,520 --> 02:40:46,860
replaced by the Roche HPV test.

2692
02:40:46,890 --> 02:40:50,130
Even though more than 12,000
American women were diagnosed

2693
02:40:50,130 --> 02:40:53,520
with cervical cancer last year.
It's still the easiest female

2694
02:40:53,520 --> 02:40:58,320
cancer to prevent because of two
main tests. The first is the Pap

2695
02:40:58,320 --> 02:41:01,980
test or Pap smear, which detects
precancerous cells in the

2696
02:41:01,980 --> 02:41:05,820
cervix. It's the gold standard
of cervical cancer prevention.

2697
02:41:06,150 --> 02:41:11,070
The Pap test is recommended for
all women aged 21 to 65 years,

2698
02:41:11,310 --> 02:41:14,580
although the cancer has a
tendency to show up in mid life.

2699
02:41:14,940 --> 02:41:19,860
The second is the HPV or human
papilloma virus test, which

2700
02:41:19,860 --> 02:41:24,930
looks for the virus. Almost
99.9% of cervical cancers are

2701
02:41:24,930 --> 02:41:29,880
caused by HPV. If you get an HPV
test with pap, the cells

2702
02:41:29,880 --> 02:41:33,450
collected during a pap smear
we'll be tested for HPV in a

2703
02:41:33,450 --> 02:41:37,650
lab. Talk with your doctor
whether an HPV test is needed.

2704
02:41:38,040 --> 02:41:42,450
In some cases, an HPV vaccine
may be recommended. But keep in

2705
02:41:42,450 --> 02:41:47,070
mind the Pap test and the HPV
test only screened for cervical

2706
02:41:47,070 --> 02:41:51,960
cancer. Neither test detects for
ovarian, uterine or vaginal

2707
02:41:51,960 --> 02:41:52,740
cancers.

2708
02:41:54,510 --> 02:41:55,740
Exactly oh,

2709
02:41:56,910 --> 02:42:00,720
by the way, they like just said
maybe they may find me at the

2710
02:42:00,720 --> 02:42:01,920
shot. But well, here.

2711
02:42:01,950 --> 02:42:07,620
Here's the interesting part. Two
of our producers, were at the

2712
02:42:08,070 --> 02:42:13,410
ballroom at College Park,
Maryland Holiday Inn with this

2713
02:42:14,400 --> 02:42:19,110
announcement by the FDA. And
here's the report, the FDA

2714
02:42:19,110 --> 02:42:22,050
collaborated with Roche on the
clinical trial and provided them

2715
02:42:22,050 --> 02:42:24,900
with the results that were
presented at the hearing. To

2716
02:42:24,900 --> 02:42:27,270
achieve the results. The
statistical analysis that took

2717
02:42:27,270 --> 02:42:29,700
place was not done properly
because the samples were not

2718
02:42:29,700 --> 02:42:33,780
normalised which skewed the
clinical trial information in a

2719
02:42:33,780 --> 02:42:37,530
way that proved the results that
were desired by the FDA. The

2720
02:42:37,530 --> 02:42:40,620
asshats at Roche was so
confident as to the outcome of

2721
02:42:40,620 --> 02:42:44,040
the hearing. They were bragging
in the Holiday Inn restaurant

2722
02:42:44,040 --> 02:42:47,010
dining room, they had the whole
hearing in the bag, because they

2723
02:42:47,010 --> 02:42:52,500
had been in bed and in collusion
with the FDA all along and our

2724
02:42:52,530 --> 02:42:56,040
two producers overheard all this
while they were there is imagine

2725
02:42:56,040 --> 02:43:00,450
these these asshats at Roche, we
got his the bag FDA we do we do?

2726
02:43:00,930 --> 02:43:02,160
Oh good, no problem.

2727
02:43:03,960 --> 02:43:06,900
Wow, great. feet on the ground
report.

2728
02:43:06,929 --> 02:43:09,539
And I've put the the entire
report which contains a little

2729
02:43:09,539 --> 02:43:13,589
more information into the show
notes with of course, names,

2730
02:43:13,769 --> 02:43:17,909
etc. removed as as they
requested. But the information

2731
02:43:17,909 --> 02:43:23,609
is confident these are basically
our version of whistleblowers. I

2732
02:43:23,609 --> 02:43:24,149
love that.

2733
02:43:24,150 --> 02:43:27,420
And of course, only our
listeners know any of this.

2734
02:43:28,650 --> 02:43:31,170
And then I have one more email
that'll be that'll be it for me

2735
02:43:31,170 --> 02:43:33,510
something that neither of us
really picked up on. But of

2736
02:43:33,510 --> 02:43:37,140
course, why would we? And but
it's so we'll actually have two

2737
02:43:37,140 --> 02:43:42,660
things. It's so obvious once.
Once it was pointed out to me,

2738
02:43:42,690 --> 02:43:48,540
come on. It's just not a good
computer day. Come on.

2739
02:43:48,570 --> 02:43:51,270
I would run a virus check on
that machine. Yes,

2740
02:43:51,270 --> 02:43:55,590
you're from episode five, nine
or nine or Neil deGrasse Tyson,

2741
02:43:55,590 --> 02:44:01,080
this is the guy who's doing the
who's doing the new Cosmos show

2742
02:44:01,560 --> 02:44:05,580
and science letter that shut
down. Did you get this one? All

2743
02:44:05,580 --> 02:44:07,650
right. Well, I don't know if you
did. But so let me just go back

2744
02:44:07,680 --> 02:44:11,400
briefly to a small piece of Neil
deGrasse Tyson,

2745
02:44:11,550 --> 02:44:14,640
we all know we live in a
politically divided country for

2746
02:44:14,640 --> 02:44:18,450
almost anything is fair game for
snipers on both sides. But

2747
02:44:18,450 --> 02:44:22,350
science? Shouldn't science be
immune from politics? After all,

2748
02:44:22,350 --> 02:44:25,740
it's called scientific fact for
a reason. And yet there are

2749
02:44:25,740 --> 02:44:29,310
millions of climate deniers,
evolution deniers vaccine

2750
02:44:29,310 --> 02:44:32,760
deniers out there. Last year in
a speech on climate change,

2751
02:44:32,760 --> 02:44:36,690
President Obama summed up the
war on science this way. I don't

2752
02:44:36,690 --> 02:44:39,540
have much patience for anyone
who denies that this

2753
02:44:39,540 --> 02:44:42,690
challenge is real. We don't have
time for a meeting of the

2754
02:44:42,690 --> 02:44:43,830
flatter society.

2755
02:44:47,700 --> 02:44:50,460
Many Americans agree with them.
But many other Americans see

2756
02:44:50,460 --> 02:44:53,490
science as an attack an attack
on their values or on their

2757
02:44:53,490 --> 02:44:56,820
religion or on what they believe
to be true. Which brings me to

2758
02:44:56,820 --> 02:45:00,000
my next guest. I am so excited.
He's here today. He may just do

2759
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,780
The man who can end the war on
science or on science, he's got

2760
02:45:03,780 --> 02:45:07,230
a better chance than you are. I
have. He's Neil deGrasse Tyson,

2761
02:45:07,230 --> 02:45:10,170
an astrophysicist and director
of the Hayden Planetarium in New

2762
02:45:10,170 --> 02:45:10,500
York.

2763
02:45:10,530 --> 02:45:13,680
I keep hearing Assad Assad
physicist. It's now it's really

2764
02:45:13,680 --> 02:45:14,850
in my brain. Yeah, you're
getting

2765
02:45:15,810 --> 02:45:19,620
his own series cosmos. Can you
imagine a primetime network

2766
02:45:19,620 --> 02:45:24,240
television show all about
science. Pretty amazing. Pretty

2767
02:45:24,240 --> 02:45:24,720
amazing.

2768
02:45:24,750 --> 02:45:26,730
Thanks for hey, I want to talk
all

2769
02:45:26,730 --> 02:45:29,520
about cosmos in a moment. But I
first want to ask you, do you

2770
02:45:29,520 --> 02:45:32,130
think there is a war on science
the way I'm describing? And if

2771
02:45:32,130 --> 02:45:34,620
so, how do you think we can
broker a peace that our

2772
02:45:34,620 --> 02:45:41,220
civilization, our civilization
is built on the innovations of

2773
02:45:41,220 --> 02:45:44,940
scientists and technologists and
engineers who have shaped

2774
02:45:45,360 --> 02:45:48,480
everything that we so take for
granted today? So some of the

2775
02:45:48,480 --> 02:45:50,850
science deniers are science
eight, these are people who are

2776
02:45:50,850 --> 02:45:53,760
telling you telling that to you
while they're on their mobile

2777
02:45:53,760 --> 02:46:00,750
phone? Oh, oh, God, GPS just
told us to go left. Yeah. Okay.

2778
02:46:02,100 --> 02:46:07,560
So I don't. So it's time for
people to sort of sit back and

2779
02:46:07,590 --> 02:46:11,580
reassess what role science has
actually played in our lives and

2780
02:46:11,610 --> 02:46:14,100
know and learn how to embrace
that going forward, because

2781
02:46:14,100 --> 02:46:17,370
without it, we will just regress
back into the cave. You don't

2782
02:46:17,610 --> 02:46:20,670
talk about the spherical Earth
with NASA and then say, Oh, now

2783
02:46:20,670 --> 02:46:24,030
let's give equal time to the
Flat Earthers. But science is

2784
02:46:24,030 --> 02:46:26,430
not there for you to cherry
pick. Alright,

2785
02:46:27,810 --> 02:46:30,720
here we are into the email
received Adam and John, enjoy

2786
02:46:30,720 --> 02:46:34,110
your discussion episode 599 of
the Neil deGrasse Tyson clip on

2787
02:46:34,110 --> 02:46:36,570
science and climate deniers. I
just want to add an observation

2788
02:46:36,570 --> 02:46:38,790
I think that you and John may
have missed or didn't have time

2789
02:46:38,790 --> 02:46:41,640
to point out no, we missed it.
The language that Tyson and his

2790
02:46:41,640 --> 02:46:50,220
interviewer use is religious
language. Tyson says sorry, yes,

2791
02:46:50,220 --> 02:46:54,300
it's I'm still sick. Tyson says
science is not there for you to

2792
02:46:54,300 --> 02:46:57,240
cherry pick. That's true.
Whether you believe it in it or

2793
02:46:57,240 --> 02:47:01,140
not. You could decide not to
believe in it. But that doesn't

2794
02:47:01,140 --> 02:47:04,770
change the reality. As a
Christian, Adam and John, I

2795
02:47:04,770 --> 02:47:08,130
recognise this as faith language
particularly used in

2796
02:47:08,130 --> 02:47:12,270
apologetics. I have heard and
read arguments and sermons just

2797
02:47:12,270 --> 02:47:15,750
like this. The Bible is not
there for you to cherry pick.

2798
02:47:15,840 --> 02:47:19,950
It's true whether you believe in
it or not. I submit that science

2799
02:47:19,950 --> 02:47:23,070
as a whole with no distinction
between fields of study, some of

2800
02:47:23,070 --> 02:47:26,310
which are more theoretical than
not, is being positioned as a

2801
02:47:26,310 --> 02:47:30,660
religion with scientists as the
modern day prophets. As

2802
02:47:30,660 --> 02:47:33,870
technology and science becomes
more complicated so that as the

2803
02:47:33,870 --> 02:47:37,320
old quotation goes, they see
more like magic. Belief in

2804
02:47:37,320 --> 02:47:40,380
science looks more like faith.
You and I have not done any

2805
02:47:40,380 --> 02:47:43,710
experiments or studies or seen
any scientific results. And we

2806
02:47:43,710 --> 02:47:47,160
trust that the what the
researchers tell us and not even

2807
02:47:47,160 --> 02:47:50,430
that what the media tells us,
the researchers have found, we

2808
02:47:50,430 --> 02:47:52,560
as a culture have come to
believe that the scientists were

2809
02:47:52,560 --> 02:47:55,620
there many educational degrees
and arcane jargon that only the

2810
02:47:55,620 --> 02:47:58,620
privileged few understand are
the truth seekers and truth

2811
02:47:58,620 --> 02:48:02,370
tellers is has to be frustrating
to scientists who truly do want

2812
02:48:02,370 --> 02:48:06,480
to seek truth, and who know how
scientific inquiry should work,

2813
02:48:06,600 --> 02:48:09,570
not by consensus, or by adhering
to belief system, but by being

2814
02:48:09,570 --> 02:48:13,650
open to the possibility of your
theories being proven wrong. And

2815
02:48:13,650 --> 02:48:18,420
I think she spot on, and this is
exactly what is happening. And I

2816
02:48:18,420 --> 02:48:21,390
think people like deGrasse Tyson
know, it's hot, and they're part

2817
02:48:21,390 --> 02:48:27,180
of it. Is cherry picking the
language is it really is

2818
02:48:27,210 --> 02:48:29,910
equating science with religion.

2819
02:48:29,970 --> 02:48:33,750
Yeah. And in fact of the matter.
Okay, you know, where that came

2820
02:48:33,750 --> 02:48:37,410
from my identity is because it's
in my brain, if you call your JC

2821
02:48:37,410 --> 02:48:40,830
did some research on this. And
fact of the matter and matter of

2822
02:48:40,830 --> 02:48:45,390
fact, and the same route, which
was a, which was some joke

2823
02:48:45,390 --> 02:48:51,180
usage, because facts do not have
matter. And so when you say fact

2824
02:48:51,180 --> 02:48:54,690
of the matter, or matter of
fact, it's it means nothing.

2825
02:48:54,690 --> 02:48:58,170
Literally, it means that it
means the opposite

2826
02:48:58,200 --> 02:49:01,380
of what you think yes, yeah.
It's just just the fact of the

2827
02:49:01,380 --> 02:49:01,710
matter is

2828
02:49:02,130 --> 02:49:05,400
the fact of the matter. That
means the opposite of what

2829
02:49:05,400 --> 02:49:08,010
you're going to say next. It
means to whatever you're going

2830
02:49:08,010 --> 02:49:12,150
to say next is bull. Right?
Well, anyway, the point is, is

2831
02:49:12,150 --> 02:49:14,670
that yeah, this was a great
letter, I thought was the letter

2832
02:49:14,670 --> 02:49:18,720
of the month, it was a nail that
we didn't even think in those

2833
02:49:18,720 --> 02:49:23,370
terms. And you can cherry pick,
because in many studies, there's

2834
02:49:23,370 --> 02:49:27,240
like, this thing does this, this
thing does this and now we came

2835
02:49:27,240 --> 02:49:29,970
along and found it does this. It
does that you know, these

2836
02:49:29,970 --> 02:49:34,170
studies, if they're not funded
by some corporation, that with

2837
02:49:34,170 --> 02:49:37,740
an end result in mind that you
better achieve or you don't get

2838
02:49:37,740 --> 02:49:41,040
your money. If it's a real
study, you can get all kinds of

2839
02:49:41,040 --> 02:49:43,710
contradictory information you
have to cherry pick certain and

2840
02:49:43,710 --> 02:49:49,260
also a GPS, or cell phone or
iPhone is engineering. It's not

2841
02:49:49,260 --> 02:49:53,670
scientific breakthrough and
discovery is engineering using

2842
02:49:55,410 --> 02:49:59,790
technology. It's not science,
then everything is science. Then

2843
02:49:59,790 --> 02:50:02,160
I'm A scientist because I like
talking it's

2844
02:50:02,160 --> 02:50:04,530
this food science yeah Food
Science

2845
02:50:04,530 --> 02:50:05,010
Yes.

2846
02:50:05,340 --> 02:50:08,760
I mean the way the proteins act
when you heat them up then there

2847
02:50:08,760 --> 02:50:11,970
was doing a study I'm just
cooking some they eat

2848
02:50:14,309 --> 02:50:20,339
this scientist David ro pike
ropeik R O P E ik. in Scientific

2849
02:50:20,339 --> 02:50:27,659
American sigh I am wrote a piece
about the verdict of the

2850
02:50:27,659 --> 02:50:36,029
scientists in Italy, who failed
to communicate the earthquake in

2851
02:50:36,029 --> 02:50:40,619
L'Aquila in 2009. So a court in
Italy has convicted six

2852
02:50:40,619 --> 02:50:46,499
scientists to think it was six
or nine years of prison. Yeah,

2853
02:50:46,499 --> 02:50:46,619
it

2854
02:50:46,620 --> 02:50:47,250
is great.

2855
02:50:47,279 --> 02:50:53,369
Well, here's what's great. This
is this, I think is a professor

2856
02:50:53,369 --> 02:50:58,559
I'm not sure what he is he
saying? Yes. We need to let all

2857
02:50:58,559 --> 02:51:03,989
sudden people who deny science
or stop communication of science

2858
02:51:03,989 --> 02:51:08,729
should be penalised and go to
jail. And I'm thinking yes, I

2859
02:51:08,729 --> 02:51:13,169
totally agree because all of
those 97% who were all in when

2860
02:51:13,169 --> 02:51:16,079
it turned when we finally find
out that this was a big joke and

2861
02:51:16,079 --> 02:51:19,019
a big lie this bullcrap that
you've made up you're all gonna

2862
02:51:19,019 --> 02:51:22,559
go to jail. And you don't you
don't have to go to jail just

2863
02:51:22,559 --> 02:51:25,829
put you in the stockade is put
you here on the town square

2864
02:51:25,829 --> 02:51:29,039
there'll be enough for me that'd
be great that was wasted gonna

2865
02:51:29,039 --> 02:51:31,499
have we need to bring back the
stockade. already.

2866
02:51:31,529 --> 02:51:34,169
I'm already working on a bit on
how that's going to come down.

2867
02:51:34,199 --> 02:51:37,829
Oh, tell me just a bit. I have
to do the bit. I can't tell you

2868
02:51:37,829 --> 02:51:37,949
that.

2869
02:51:38,070 --> 02:51:40,740
You can't give be given it away.
But it's a good bit. Oh,

2870
02:51:41,039 --> 02:51:45,419
that's a good bit. It's a good
bit. It's like I just did to the

2871
02:51:45,419 --> 02:51:48,059
acting thing. I'm not in the
mood to do I gotta be I gotta

2872
02:51:48,059 --> 02:51:52,709
get my I gotta think about it. I
only have a couple more things.

2873
02:51:52,739 --> 02:51:53,039
Well,

2874
02:51:53,190 --> 02:51:57,300
we're overdue we got to stop but
okay couple more thing i one

2875
02:51:57,300 --> 02:52:00,270
more thing you got a couple go
for your couple. Just do my I

2876
02:52:00,270 --> 02:52:02,790
just want to play how lucky are
you people that we just sit here

2877
02:52:02,790 --> 02:52:06,330
and don't stop thinking about
tomorrow time to take a hard

2878
02:52:06,360 --> 02:52:08,880
break. That's right news coming
up. We got some commercials to

2879
02:52:08,880 --> 02:52:11,610
play and oh, by the way, my
Ferrari has to be picked up at

2880
02:52:11,610 --> 02:52:13,500
the garage so I'm out of here.
See ya.

2881
02:52:14,820 --> 02:52:18,390
Obama record on transparency on
Democracy Now, but they still

2882
02:52:18,390 --> 02:52:19,290
vote for the guy.

2883
02:52:21,120 --> 02:52:24,480
New figures show the Obama
administration denied a record

2884
02:52:24,480 --> 02:52:28,050
number of Freedom of Information
Act requests last year despite

2885
02:52:28,050 --> 02:52:31,650
pledges of transparency.
According to the Associated

2886
02:52:31,650 --> 02:52:37,800
Press, the White House denied or
partially censored 36% of FOIA

2887
02:52:37,830 --> 02:52:43,050
requests in a record 57% of
cases the administration cited

2888
02:52:43,050 --> 02:52:46,860
grounds of national security
upon first taking office

2889
02:52:46,860 --> 02:52:50,400
President Obama had vowed to
make his administration quote

2890
02:52:50,400 --> 02:53:00,780
the most open and transparent in
history. He'll bots really,

2891
02:53:01,980 --> 02:53:06,180
and just last but not least, or
it actually is least this you

2892
02:53:06,180 --> 02:53:07,890
know, the general that was
busted for some sexual

2893
02:53:07,890 --> 02:53:10,530
harassment thing. This is a just
an interesting report. I just

2894
02:53:10,530 --> 02:53:15,300
wanna make a quick quick comment
on the general God plea deal for

2895
02:53:15,300 --> 02:53:18,660
a sexual son is I didn't realise
this was a guy's a real sleazy

2896
02:53:18,660 --> 02:53:19,080
Boyd.

2897
02:53:19,740 --> 02:53:23,580
Military Prosecutors have agreed
to drop sexual assault charges

2898
02:53:23,580 --> 02:53:26,940
against Brigadier General
Jeffrey Sinclair, in return for

2899
02:53:26,940 --> 02:53:30,720
a guilty plea on lesser
offences. The accuser and army

2900
02:53:30,720 --> 02:53:34,530
captain testified Sinclair twice
forced her to perform oral sex

2901
02:53:34,530 --> 02:53:38,610
during a fair enough threatened
to murder her and her family if

2902
02:53:38,610 --> 02:53:42,300
she told anyone exactly wonder
place and Claire will admit to

2903
02:53:42,300 --> 02:53:46,170
mistreatment but avoid charges
that would have forced him to

2904
02:53:46,170 --> 02:53:49,140
register as a sex offender if
convicted.

2905
02:53:50,130 --> 02:53:54,480
Heaven forbid I mean guy pees in
the park sex offender in Iowa,

2906
02:53:54,480 --> 02:54:00,720
and he's a sex offender. Are you
having to take a leak? Oh, yeah.

2907
02:54:02,370 --> 02:54:02,820
Anyway,

2908
02:54:03,750 --> 02:54:06,780
my last one is a is an odd kind
of an obvious one. But it didn't

2909
02:54:06,780 --> 02:54:08,880
kind of click until this
morning, and I'd saw it and I

2910
02:54:08,880 --> 02:54:12,930
was like, Oh, of course. It's a
99/5 story. You know, we have 99

2911
02:54:12,930 --> 02:54:15,930
fists in this country's 99 fist
against the one fist. It's the

2912
02:54:15,930 --> 02:54:19,680
99% versus the 1%. Here's report
number one national

2913
02:54:19,680 --> 02:54:22,950
battle over inequality the rich
versus the rest of the

2914
02:54:22,950 --> 02:54:23,730
population.

2915
02:54:23,760 --> 02:54:26,760
That's really the clue here.
What is this all about this

2916
02:54:26,790 --> 02:54:29,670
inequality? We keep hearing
about inequality, the rich

2917
02:54:29,670 --> 02:54:32,460
versus the poor that 99% versus
the 1%

2918
02:54:32,490 --> 02:54:36,300
has taken a curious turn in the
San Francisco Bay Area where

2919
02:54:36,300 --> 02:54:39,930
buses carrying high tech workers
have become a symbol of the

2920
02:54:39,930 --> 02:54:40,560
divide.

2921
02:54:41,280 --> 02:54:43,470
This is PBS, obviously, and I
don't know why they're running

2922
02:54:43,470 --> 02:54:45,810
the story. But oh, yes, I do
know why they're running the

2923
02:54:45,810 --> 02:54:46,800
story again.

2924
02:54:46,920 --> 02:54:51,600
Every weekday morning between
730 and 10. Dozens of big sleek

2925
02:54:51,600 --> 02:54:54,630
buses rolled down Valencia
Street in the heart of San

2926
02:54:54,630 --> 02:54:58,500
Francisco's traditionally Latino
Mission District and other city

2927
02:54:58,500 --> 02:55:03,060
thoroughfares. When they began
rolling six or seven years ago,

2928
02:55:03,210 --> 02:55:06,210
they were generally praised as
an alternative to crowded

2929
02:55:06,210 --> 02:55:10,410
highways and carbon emissions
from cars. But that's not the

2930
02:55:10,410 --> 02:55:13,680
issue says writer Rebecca
Solnit, one of the first to

2931
02:55:13,680 --> 02:55:17,340
charge that the buses were more
than a way to get to work.

2932
02:55:17,610 --> 02:55:21,600
They're unmarked and with tinted
windows, so you don't know who's

2933
02:55:21,600 --> 02:55:24,150
inside there like a cross
between a limousine and an

2934
02:55:24,150 --> 02:55:27,540
armoured personnel carrier
cruising around the central

2935
02:55:27,540 --> 02:55:28,170
city.

2936
02:55:28,650 --> 02:55:32,280
Solid and others say the buses
are symbols of the disparity in

2937
02:55:32,280 --> 02:55:36,090
wealth between the new tech
workers and the longtime working

2938
02:55:36,090 --> 02:55:38,910
class residents of
neighbourhoods like the mission,

2939
02:55:39,240 --> 02:55:43,500
and she adds the influx of
techies is gentrifying the city.

2940
02:55:43,890 --> 02:55:47,070
So this story has been around
for a while. And we know that a

2941
02:55:47,070 --> 02:55:49,620
lot of this has been trumped up.
There's been activists who are

2942
02:55:49,620 --> 02:55:54,960
doing this I'm no doubt an NGO
that nonprofits a bunch of just

2943
02:55:55,470 --> 02:55:59,580
provocateurs, Magary everywhere.
Yeah. Well, it wasn't until this

2944
02:55:59,580 --> 02:56:01,890
morning, they figured out why
this is happening. Do you have

2945
02:56:01,890 --> 02:56:03,600
an idea? They have you? Have you
a clue?

2946
02:56:03,960 --> 02:56:06,270
Well, there's a couple of things
I can see you going with this?

2947
02:56:06,270 --> 02:56:09,000
One is that they do when they
bring in the armoured personnel

2948
02:56:09,000 --> 02:56:11,280
in the buses, which they do,
they won't notice they won't

2949
02:56:11,280 --> 02:56:14,340
notice it. Nobody will notice
and then they can run the cops

2950
02:56:14,340 --> 02:56:16,980
can run out like crazy. So
that's always one possibility.

2951
02:56:16,980 --> 02:56:21,090
The second thing which I note
here, though, I'm sure that's

2952
02:56:21,090 --> 02:56:23,730
not what you're going to talk
about, is that, you know, you're

2953
02:56:23,730 --> 02:56:26,820
talking about guys having to
take the bus to work as the

2954
02:56:26,820 --> 02:56:30,840
upper class. I don't think so.
Okay, how fancy the buses taking

2955
02:56:30,870 --> 02:56:35,970
a bus to work. It's just not.
It's not like you're living it.

2956
02:56:35,970 --> 02:56:38,190
You're not living the high life.
Let's put it that way.

2957
02:56:38,190 --> 02:56:40,590
But it's being positioned as
living the high life. It's the

2958
02:56:40,590 --> 02:56:45,690
99% against the 1%. Yeah, and
it's an all it's it's so obvious

2959
02:56:45,690 --> 02:56:49,380
why this is being ratcheted up.
Now, when I saw spokes hole for

2960
02:56:49,380 --> 02:56:53,160
the president Dan Pfeiffer on
chip show. Well, look,

2961
02:56:53,370 --> 02:56:56,400
there is no question. This is a
tough map for Democrats. That's

2962
02:56:56,400 --> 02:56:58,080
what happens when you want a lot
of elections like we did in

2963
02:56:58,080 --> 02:57:01,170
2008. But it but the good news
is, is that we have good

2964
02:57:01,170 --> 02:57:03,240
candidates. And most
importantly, we're on the right

2965
02:57:03,240 --> 02:57:06,150
side of the issue that matters
most to most of the public jobs

2966
02:57:06,150 --> 02:57:08,430
in the economy. Here's what the
President is going to do. He is

2967
02:57:08,430 --> 02:57:11,370
going to lay out the terms of
the of the debate in this

2968
02:57:11,370 --> 02:57:14,640
election is a choice between
Democrats who support an agenda

2969
02:57:14,640 --> 02:57:17,010
of opportunity for all for
Republicans for an agenda of

2970
02:57:17,010 --> 02:57:17,910
opportunity for a few.

2971
02:57:18,390 --> 02:57:24,300
There it is 1% Republicans who
support an agenda for only the

2972
02:57:24,300 --> 02:57:28,050
few the rich, they're the 1%.
That's it. That's the

2973
02:57:28,050 --> 02:57:30,600
whole buddy in that bus. I
guarantee if you took a poll,

2974
02:57:30,600 --> 02:57:31,530
they're all Democrats. I

2975
02:57:31,530 --> 02:57:33,480
know. But that's not important.
No,

2976
02:57:33,480 --> 02:57:35,340
I know, it's not important,
because it's all positioning.

2977
02:57:35,340 --> 02:57:37,920
And this is what the Democrats
have been doing very well. This

2978
02:57:37,920 --> 02:57:38,280
is what

2979
02:57:38,280 --> 02:57:41,130
the guns thing is about is have
women never ever vote for

2980
02:57:41,130 --> 02:57:43,740
Republicans again. What was the
other one? We had another one?

2981
02:57:44,010 --> 02:57:46,920
Another? Yeah, we have two or
three of them, we should put it

2982
02:57:46,920 --> 02:57:49,320
on a wall. We should write
something down from time to

2983
02:57:49,320 --> 02:57:54,270
time. Once in a while, just the
newsletter. Nice newsletter, by

2984
02:57:54,270 --> 02:57:59,640
the way, hit that comment. Let's
see for Sunday, or Sunday, I

2985
02:57:59,640 --> 02:58:04,110
will be talking about the single
resolution mechanism that was

2986
02:58:04,110 --> 02:58:08,400
just signed in Euro get moulded
nation land, which is

2987
02:58:08,400 --> 02:58:12,900
essentially how the banks will
be bailed out with your savings.

2988
02:58:14,940 --> 02:58:17,220
That's why they call it
something like single resolution

2989
02:58:17,220 --> 02:58:17,970
mechanism. So

2990
02:58:17,970 --> 02:58:21,300
you guys, do you go like, Oh,
whatever. Whatever.

2991
02:58:22,830 --> 02:58:25,740
We'll see. That's the meanwhile
I'm working. I've got some

2992
02:58:25,740 --> 02:58:32,250
common core stuff, obviously.
And no, I'd be excited to talk

2993
02:58:32,250 --> 02:58:33,030
to you again, John.

2994
02:58:33,510 --> 02:58:38,790
It's always fun to be some more
action in the Ukraine, I

2995
02:58:38,790 --> 02:58:43,020
suspect. No, we were very
negligent about Venezuela.

2996
02:58:43,110 --> 02:58:46,860
Oh, yeah. Hold on. Let me get
Fox News for this investigation.

2997
02:58:46,860 --> 02:58:49,380
Chef. Catherine, one of the
possibilities they've told us is

2998
02:58:49,380 --> 02:58:53,850
that one of these objects is a
cargo container. Let's check

2999
02:58:53,850 --> 02:58:58,950
CNN. The probability that it is
the aircraft

3000
02:59:00,450 --> 02:59:05,400
again, a double hit. Ladies and
gentlemen, if that doesn't prove

3001
02:59:05,400 --> 02:59:07,920
to you that the no agenda show
is what you should be listening

3002
02:59:07,920 --> 02:59:12,900
to and supporting a
divorce.org/and a nothing will

3003
02:59:12,930 --> 02:59:13,500
that is

3004
02:59:13,680 --> 02:59:18,540
horrible. We'll talk to you
again on Sunday right here on no

3005
02:59:18,540 --> 02:59:19,110
agenda.

3006
02:59:31,980 --> 02:59:35,250
Simple red.org/n A