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Yeah, they gotta wipe these
people out. Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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Sunday, February 16 2014. Time
for your Gitmo nation media

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assassination. Episode five,
nine or two. This is no agenda.

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Welcome to the official
nongovernmental organisation

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podcast from FEMA Region six
drivers high tide on Austin,

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Texas in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry

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from Northern Silicon Valley. I
have no idea what he said. I'm

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John C. Dvorak.

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Buzzkill.

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Is that because you can't hear
me or you? I was unclear. No,

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actually,

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I could, but you were long.
Don't know what you said. And

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also the music's a little louder
than you

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know, I'm sorry. Well, I was
just saying that this is the

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official non governmental
organisation podcast from FEMA

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Region six.

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We need to be a non governmental
organisation and I've no

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but I've looked into this. We
can be a non governmental

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organisation without being like
an official 5013 c nonprofit.

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This is true. Why not just call
us a word. We can just make

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something up. This is it and
I've

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tried it last night. I gave it a
shot. Right. We had a couple's

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dinner.

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A couple's dinner I know. Now,
what does this even mean? Ah.

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It's hard all dinners kind of a
couples dinner.

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This is so here's what happened.
One of the Mickey has, I think

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two years ago, we met this
beautiful girl. Probably the

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most beautiful black woman I've
ever seen. Like Cleopatra Jones

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beautiful. And Mickey. You know,
she they they started doing

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stuff. And she just fashion
stuff and mica use her for a lot

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of her artwork. So just kind of
Mickey's Muse and her husband, I

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think we've talked about this,
her husband is a lobbyist here

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in Texas, but he's totally no
agenda material.

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And that's a good thing. Ya
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a very good thing. And so that
was good. And she's pregnant.

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She I guess she has like three
more weeks to go and someone was

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going to do a baby shower. And
then he went from a baby shower,

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and so on. And so anyway, so
Mickey says about a week and a

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half ago, she's Oh, look, I got
shanghaied. And this thing was

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supposed to be like a baby
shower. But now it's a Saturday

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night. I know you're prepping.
But it's this couples dinner

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thing. Whatever. Please, please,
please. Okay, no problem we'll

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go to there's five couples is 10
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And this is a pretty good sized
event. Yeah. And

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it's pretty much the worst thing
you can do to me, certainly on.

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And I knew, actually some good
some, a lot of good that came

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out because besides the
lobbyist, the banker was also

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there, who and I'll talk about
him later because he knows one

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of the bankers that committed
suicide. So we can bring a

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little info in about that. And,
but then I had the opportunity

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with three new couples to
reintroduce myself and come up

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with new ways of saying it.

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So I tried to new ways to do not
annoy people,

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new ways to talk about what I
do. Okay, I work for a non

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governmental organisation. I
work for an NGO.

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Yes, gotta be huge.

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It's a winner. Really? Oh, wow.
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know, the funny thing is,
technically, technically

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our show is a non government is
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governmental org. And if
anything, that is not

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government, General Motors,

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non government, well, hold on,
did they did they pay the money

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back yet? I think so. Okay, then
they're an NGO. So I tried to

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two different ways. I tried NGO
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organisation. And NGO works
better hands down because people

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they don't even know what it
stands for. Oh, okay. Great.

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So you just buffalo them? Yeah.

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So what do you do with the NGO?
I'm a legislation analyst. Wow,

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this is fantastic. So So I think
we just we just need to say to

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any na NGO. We are an official
NGO. And I'm just going to keep

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trying it. See, see how far I
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I work for an NGO. Let me see if
I practice on this. And I'm John

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John. Hi. Hi. How are you?

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Hi, hey, I've seen you around
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do?

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Yeah, I come around once a while
I work for an NGO.

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Oh, really? Your offer often at
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Almost NGO
people did get an else to do

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because we pay.

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Oh man. Oh, alright. So
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some some nice people,
homeschoolers, and everyone it

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was kind of a mixed mixed batch
who was nice. But of course, you

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know, it's like 930 I'm like,
Okay, nice drinking with y'all,

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but I gotta go. Why NGO work?
Oh, that's a fair She'll

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business, he has to go

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to showbusiness.

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But that was nothing compared to
Valentine's Day. Then I'll I

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have to say I feel gypped and
screwed. And I don't know if you

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witnessed any of this, but I got
guilted. And this whole was

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really bad this year, typically,
you know, I can get away with

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whatever. But somehow because of
that we had the show before

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Valentine's Day. And you know,
and that was another thing we

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had. It's right. We had a thing
going on. That's crazy with the

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social calendar. Anyway, I
didn't think of reserving

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anything or, like restaurant or
any of this. And Friday morning,

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Mickey wakes me up with a
beautiful card and breakfast and

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candles and like, ah, oh, drop
the ball. Oh, like Oh, friggin

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Russian. fragger. As you're
killing, oh, my God, I at least

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give me the morning to rain some
stuff. He said, No, no, don't

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worry. You had a show yesterday.
I know. It's okay. Okay, this is

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very obvious. The Gauntlet is
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Yeah, that's not good. No, no,
don't worry about it. Don't

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worry about forgetting about me.

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I didn't forget. This was it was
not okay. This I was totally

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ashamed and guilty. I hop in the
truck. I'm running around to

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flower shops. Let me tell you
something that I didn't know.

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But it seems obvious flowers in
Texas, not a good match. And

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people literally would look at
me like, you seriously, you're

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here for roses right now on
Valentine's Day, and they'd walk

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away from me. The people in the
store would walk away. Yeah,

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like I was generat.

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Yeah, I would do the same thing.
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I wound up finding you know,
handmade chocolate and I got a

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beautiful card. And, and I drew
and you know how when you have

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the, you have the card and you
have the magic marker and you're

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doing like your thing. And
you're lucky you got through the

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spelling, but then I drew the
heart. And it kind of looked

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like an upside down but crack.
It was a totally horrible. But

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then, after our dinner, which I
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something we were invited to
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with the constitutional lawyer
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they're big donors to this act
theatre here. And we went to see

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the play in the next room, or
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Are you familiar with this play?

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Never heard of it.

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There was by Sarah rule, and
believe me, I'm just reading

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what I Googled. It was nominated
for Tony's and mythical one, a

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Tony. And she is the name of it
again. In the next room, the

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vibrator play. And it's about
the first doctor who use the

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vibrator on women to rid them of
their hysteria. So you know, the

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play may be very well written.
But within the were in the first

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act halfway through the first
act, and Mickey and I looked at

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each other like, oh my god, this
acting is so bad. It's just

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completely horrible. And maybe
Welcome to the locals. And maybe

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10 minutes after that all of a
sudden, a guy keels over right

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behind us from a heart attack,
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It's just and this is the third
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So I don't know if it's me. Yes
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this is. Yeah, I heard of this
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premiered in Berkeley.

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Yes, that's right. Exactly. That
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there. So the guy these keels
over and Mickey stops the play.

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This is why it's yeah, this is
the woman you want when there's

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an emergency. So this guy keels
over forward, you know, and so

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now he's like one row behind us.
And Nikki just stands up and

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says, Oh, this is unbelievable.
Yes. And make me stand up.

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Doors are better than mine to
stop stop medical doctor,

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medical doctor.

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And I'm like, as opposed to a
veterinarian. I don't know. What

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are we gonna do to budget and
it's good. And then because

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everyone's frozen and Mickey is
like, alright, call a doctor

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here. medical doctor. And people
like chill I call 911. And he's

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like, Yes, call 911 You You take
it over. I think she saved the

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guy's life. She probably did.

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Or that's a Valentine's Day
gift. Yeah. And well,

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that really kind of you know,
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really you really blew it. You
could I know what you could have

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done to save the moment. Not not
to play moment, but before Uh

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huh. You have a local guy there.
He's been wanting to meet you.

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You could call him up telling me
to do a little act. He was like

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part of it. Again. Pretend that
has been planned in advance and

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have Brian Brushwood come over
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with a bouquet of fake roses.
Right out of his ear.

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All I had to do was call Brian
Brushwood. How stupid am I could

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have taken care of all of this.
Thank you.

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Yeah, he fake it. Anyway,

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you blew it. Yeah, yeah, I did
Mimi's

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if she doesn't have it in my in
my family doesn't like that. I

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get it. Usually call on Tuesday
a couple of days before or if

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I'm not there. I'm down here and
she calls me Mimi will call and

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say, hey, don't forget it's
Valentine's Day. Really? Make

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sure to send Jay something.

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Do you but you don't have to
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that part of Valentine's? Oh,
yeah, yeah, no, wait. Christina.

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In America, it tends to be all
the women that you've seen in

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the last six months have your
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them

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if you lay eyes on them.

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What day was the date? Oh, yeah,
but just across the deadline,

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but it's such a it's such a
bogey Yes. Send them at least a

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hell Oh.

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Well, that's what that's what
the E cards that's why that's

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been that was great invention.
Oh, I love you kind of here's an

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E card. Anyway, so I had lots of
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Besides Bogota

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this story about about the heart
attack in the theatre is

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priceless This is the third

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time that the previous time
watch people dropping around

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yeah no no around me that
remember the UT game on

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Thanksgiving where the lady died
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Then we had the heart attack on
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just like the third heart
attack. Hmm I don't know. I

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don't really have some

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vibe coming off. Maybe let's
third three threes random now

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you probably won't happen again.
Everyone in life? Probably

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not. So I focused on the three
things that we were talking

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about last I focused on NGO's
because I just shared with you

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blew me away with your study.
And to revisit that. I don't

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remember exactly what the study
was. But the result was people

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believe the trust study done by
Edelman on a yearly basis.

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Right? Exactly what should we
you are not supposed to report

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on? To see I'm not supposed to
write it up just the way I heard

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it. Okay, that's what I heard.
So I didn't write it word of

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it, not a word. So the trust
studies people trust

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nongovernmental organisations
the most and so I decided it was

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time to probably revisit a
couple of these. Wow.

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Particularly your face something

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like God, particularly Human
Rights Watch.

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Oh, yeah, those guys. Well,

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these are kind of the guys
they're the ones that have been

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doing all this the Sochi stuff
but that's the way to pronounce

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it by the way. So Archie, so
Archie, not so cheap. So watchI

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well, before you go there, I do
have one clip that that relates

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to where I think you might be
headed, which is I have a clip

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of a woman what is ours one of
our ski jumpers and female ski

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jumpers is the first time they
have female ski jumpers. This

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clip by the way as the Olympian
does not get the memo. And I

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suspect that because she's she's
pretty she's a pretty Olympic

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ski jumper and they had her on
RT just tell her what she

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thought about the whole
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her an impression. And I believe
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that weren't weren't briefed,
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to her? And they so she was
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it like it is about Sochi,

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nevertheless had been enjoying
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I find it beautiful. I think
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really nice. And of course, the
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hard not attention to how much
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was trying to stay optimistic. I
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regardless and so far, I have
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Olympics. I tried to re catch
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very hard with all the
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of the couples last night the
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Now I think you and I pretty
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guy from a million miles away
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going on. Right and they are
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stock traders almost would you
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kind of floor guy, floor guy but
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in life. And we got the talking
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oh my god, they're doing it so
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the the snowboarder whose
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he's like, now he's, you know,
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snowboarder, he got Parkinson's
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put the camera on that guy a
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What do you mean it's beautiful
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were talking about how that has
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yeah, cumin definitely gets the
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people's eyes, a horse of course
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jerking moments in the Olympics.

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And then our short programme ice
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and he finished his programme a
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another tear

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fell on his ass. People were
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didn't lose because he had the
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at Human Rights Watch this is
very in their record is so

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atrocious In fact, the was
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worked for two was high ranking
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nominated and approved to be
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Democracy, Human Rights and
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in is convenes actually, the the
Tuesday meetings where they

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determine who they're going to
kill with the drone. This is

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Human Rights Watch this is and
this this guy was in government

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before they went out of
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Watch and back again. And these
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you know, as long as they're
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horrible organisation. It really
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course, you know, I had to pull
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what's going on dev comm like I
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revenue in one year. I'm pulling
up the 990. Now, so I can just

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give you the made a couple of
markups. Yeah, I think what was

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kind of interesting. Here we go.
What did they do? Yeah, they

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did. $36 million in total
revenue for 2012. Salaries $11

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million. Seems a little on the
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How many people do they have
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everything. Because it's, they

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don't have to first of all, they
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working there. And it's all
within reason they got just they

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got a lot of people making 240
to $260,000. Right. But when you

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really see the grants they paid
out, was $3.7 million. So they

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they almost tripled the amount
in salaries as to what they

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actually paid out in grants all
the rest of the money. Go so

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what what was, I'm sorry, this
is human rights. I made a

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mistake. This is Human Rights
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So you have the Human Rights
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rights campaign, Human Rights
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of stuff. And this is this is
the gay and lesbian thing. HRC.

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In fact, human rights camp, this
is from their tax form, the

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Human Rights Campaign is
organised and operated for the

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promotion of the social welfare
of the lesbian, gay, bisexual

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and transgender community. By
inspiring and engaging people

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from around the globe. That is
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that what they do is they give
little bits and bobs to just a

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different LGBT organisations.
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going into overhead and lobbying
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then the page where they have
all their donors, because it

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says their money comes from
individuals, they have all the

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all the amounts, but none of
them because they don't have to

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report it. None of the names. So
there's an individual gave

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150,300 41,000 But no names.
completely non transparent, this

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whole thing.

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Well, you know, You confused me.

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Why? Well, because

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the What about Human Rights
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Yeah, oh, they have over $150
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I'm trying to say is they're
split off and you have to follow

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all these individual little
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Watch. That's that is pretty
much one for one, the State

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Department and a lot of their
money comes from what is it the

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democratic endowment? Not fun.
What is it in down on? What is

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it that what is that thing
called? The Endowment for

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Democracy? Come on, help me out?

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I don't know what it is. I never
heard of it. Yes, of

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course you do. It's a big
drinking Club.

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Well, there's a lot of those.

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On the second National Endowment
for Democracy. You know, this

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don't I've heard of that? Yes.
This is where Hillary Clinton

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speaks at this all the time. And
this is Oh, yeah, that's right.

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it has something to do they take
somehow there's somebody's

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funnelling money that that is

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directly from the State
Department. And then they they

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distributed out to all these
other groups and crew including

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Human Rights Watch, and human
rights. Now and Human Rights

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Campaign and Human Rights
Foundation. And these are all

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the NGOs and they come up with
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though we reported on it way
ahead of time, seems that for

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some reason this is now his News
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freedom of the press worldwide
has issued a strong rebuke to

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the US, the World Press Freedom
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down from 13 spots down from
last year, Reporters Without

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Borders says the US had quote,
one of the most significant

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declines in press freedom.

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And now if you look at the
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difference of 4%. over last
year, on a scale of one to 100,

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you know, there's a 4% decline
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Decline.

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That's not right. Yeah, it is.
Not, it was 33. Before

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they do it, but it's a numbers.
If you look at the actual

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document, it's a number scoring
system. This is this is the try

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see what you're saying? Yeah,

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this is like showing the graphic
input. Yeah, the input is

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literally a 4% difference over
last year, because everything is

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so close, when they have the
numbers about education, all

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America's 190 It's on the list,
which is really, it's like two

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basis points different from
number two. It's just that looks

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really good and makes for a good
press release.

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So it's nice catch, yeah.

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And this will go nicely with our
new domain name. Thank you,

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Paul, the InfoSec guy Reporters
Without boredom.com. I guess we

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came up with that last time. And
we have reporters without

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boredom.com is our website,
because I think we should be

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doing our own little report. And
that, of course, brought me

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right back to the human rights
NGOs. And I thought maybe it

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would be interesting to revisit,
briefly, human rights. Good

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people talk about human rights,
gay rights, animal rights, but

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mainly human rights. And I guess
the big thing is LGBTQ Qi

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rights. But where did these
rights come from? Who determines

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the rights? What who codifies
the human rights? When were

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these put into existence?

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Okay, you're asking me,

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I don't know if you if you
recall.

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Well, I mean, the way it's
usually presented, is there a

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God given? Right?

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Exactly. Right. Except this
really happened in the 90s.

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That's when

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Yes, I didn't know that God came
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in the 90s. A little

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too, I got stuck in the 80s. He
got stuck with shoulder pads.

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And he's like I was groovin. Too
much. He came in in the 90s. And

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that's really when the United
Nations codified all this. And

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what I was going to do is go
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this from one of our earlier
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hundreds, when I remember this.
Yeah, by the way, when I

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interviewed Samuel Moines,
professor at Columbia, good,

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yep, professor at Columbia. And
he specifically talks about

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where these human rights really
came from, but what they're

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really used for. And as you
might guess, they're not really

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to protect other people's human
rights. They're used to impose

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military warfare on countries
who are accused, or states as he

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will say, who were accused of
not to protecting human rights,

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which is exactly what's going
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good to revisit that, yes, you

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imply human rights are open to
so many divergent uses. And the

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one thing I would clarify is
that the UN tries to introduce

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human rights are right after
World War Two. And that's how we

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get the Universal Declaration.
But no one really cares and in a

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way that UN initially is where
human rights go to die. So what

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happens in the post war period,
is that human rights are kind of

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reclaimed from the UN. On the
one hand, ordinary people part

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of amnesty and eventually part
of human rights groups like

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Human Rights Watch, begin to
take take a claim to human

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rights to analysing other states
to criticising other states.

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And the Human Rights Council,
the United Nations body that

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does this for a living,

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it definitely does. So it
definitely does. So but so but

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there are also so called non
governmental organisations which

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try to prevent provide an
alternative Human Rights Forum

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to the United Nations, and then
presidents do it. So, statesman

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since Jimmy Carter, have invoked
human rights have said American

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foreign policy should abide by
human rights or even promote

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human rights. And there we would
get into I think, what's quite

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difficult about it because human
rights could mean lots of

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different things. And it really
depends who's invoking them and

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to what purpose? I wouldn't want
to rule out that it can be a

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language that can make a
difference. Since interfering

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with other sovereignties may be
something worth doing, and there

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may be ways of doing it, that
improve the world. But as you

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suggest or fear, it could also
be subject to abuse. And I think

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we have to just be realist and
look out. So that when we hear

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human rights, we ask what for
which rights? With whose

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interests in mind. And

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that is a professor who's has
written the book about human

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rights?

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How does human rights and
droning some family out in the

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middle of nowhere Yemen, yeah,
how together?

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How does that go together? Yeah,
it doesn't, how the only way I

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see it going together is if you
condition people enough to not

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care. And that's also kind of
his point is that Americans

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really don't care. If and if you
if you look at what's going on,

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if you look at the spy
programmes, just the IRS

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targeting any really anything.
No one really cares. No one

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gives

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it No. Makes that you it kind of
makes that don't care kind of

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interesting, in an ironic way,
is that there are two political

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factions that dominate the the
conversation the United States,

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the Conservatives and the
liberals. And they both pretend

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to care in a lot of different
ways. But when the ball is in

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their court as it is in the
liberal world at the moment,

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they don't care. They don't do
anything. Nobody gives a crap

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about Obama's kill list. They
talk a big goal. It's terrible.

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It's terrible. What are we
having for dinner tonight?

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And then what's, what's
interesting is and it's fun to

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watch the lesbian, the LGBTQ Qi
community sit by idly while they

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are being misused. In the latest
round of what the human rights

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organisations, the NGOs, the non
governmental organisations who

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are either directly or
indirectly funded by the federal

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government are misusing gay and
rainbow for their own benefit,

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of course, and to and to
increase their I know, but to

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increase the coffers and
everyone's going along blindly.

446
00:27:28,650 --> 00:27:35,250
They don't care. They don't care
or they're part of it. Or it's

447
00:27:35,250 --> 00:27:37,980
maybe it's a social thing. I
mean, just like to go back to

448
00:27:37,980 --> 00:27:41,790
again, the gay news that with
the nd Harmon what's her name?

449
00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:46,650
Northrup woman. They don't
really go beyond any thing

450
00:27:46,650 --> 00:27:50,070
superficial. Just like oh, they
somebody's somebody's a

451
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:54,330
douchebag guy. This guy said
that gays are bad. This guy said

452
00:27:54,330 --> 00:27:56,820
that gays are bad and I mean,
there's nothing more to it. They

453
00:27:56,820 --> 00:28:00,210
don't see any big picture. And
they don't care about you know

454
00:28:00,210 --> 00:28:03,480
the truth about the Russians or
anything in between. Well, they

455
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,140
don't care.

456
00:28:04,170 --> 00:28:11,430
Well, here's here's the latest I
think blatant misuse of the

457
00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:15,000
alternative lifestyle and
sexuality communities and can we

458
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,830
stop with be calling it a
community, that community and a

459
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:23,790
community you're lesbian, you're
gay transaction, transgendered

460
00:28:26,550 --> 00:28:30,810
transgender new one, you're
vicarious bisexual, hetero

461
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:33,630
Flexa. Whatever it is, it's just
community that we have part of

462
00:28:33,630 --> 00:28:36,720
the community of the human
people. But this this one really

463
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,530
blew me away.

464
00:28:37,650 --> 00:28:41,460
Facebook users, your about
section just expanded in a big

465
00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:45,660
and maybe for many of you
unfamiliar way. Under gender,

466
00:28:45,690 --> 00:28:50,130
there's now a custom option, and
it allows you to choose from 50

467
00:28:50,130 --> 00:28:54,030
terms. Here's some of the
examples cisgender gender fluid

468
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,260
to spirit, intersex, and neither
Joining me now rich Ferraro,

469
00:28:58,260 --> 00:29:00,960
Vice President of Communications
for GLAAD. So written

470
00:29:00,990 --> 00:29:04,020
Let's pay close attention to
what's going on here. This is a

471
00:29:04,020 --> 00:29:07,050
representative from GLAAD. This
is another non governmental

472
00:29:07,050 --> 00:29:12,690
organisation. And this guy is
peeing in his pants with joy

473
00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:18,270
that they have somehow it was so
hard to convince Facebook to

474
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:22,830
allow people to customise their
gender where really, Facebook is

475
00:29:22,830 --> 00:29:27,570
going. Wow, thank you for yet
another invaluable data points

476
00:29:27,570 --> 00:29:31,050
that we can send messaging to
these people from advertisers.

477
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:35,580
How obviously has to make right
it's so a win for Facebook to

478
00:29:35,580 --> 00:29:40,710
win for Facebook, and this guy
is he's like, glad we had to

479
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:44,700
work so hard, but we got him to
do it. We got him for equality

480
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:49,020
for all 50 categories of sex
than gender. You actually

481
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:53,160
worked on this project with
Facebook. So whose idea was it

482
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,700
and why did it become an issue
and an important move for

483
00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:57,630
Facebook Facebook

484
00:29:57,630 --> 00:30:00,450
today is a reflection of who we
are and the story that We want

485
00:30:00,450 --> 00:30:02,610
to tell the world about
ourselves. And there were some

486
00:30:02,610 --> 00:30:04,200
users who couldn't do that.

487
00:30:07,410 --> 00:30:09,960
I don't have to tell you what
the, you know, this kind of guy,

488
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,860
right? This PR guy is really,
really horrible Facebook,

489
00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:18,000
smarmy PR guy there are a lot of
them are very, they're all cut

490
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:18,900
from the same cloth.

491
00:30:19,410 --> 00:30:22,800
Glad to help work with us on
this issue. And Claude was happy

492
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,710
to work with Facebook. But more
importantly, we were happy for

493
00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:29,190
the transgender and gender non
conforming youth who now could

494
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:33,000
tell gender non conforming youth
the world who they are in their

495
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:33,540
own words.

496
00:30:33,570 --> 00:30:36,360
So what do you say to those
folks that are like, Okay, this

497
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,200
is just way too much to
understand and comprehend. And

498
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,510
why can't we just keep it more
simple.

499
00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:46,170
I don't think it's ridiculous,
to accept LGBT young people for

500
00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:50,160
who they are. I think that
Facebook has really made a great

501
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,340
step forward to telling those
young people that you can be who

502
00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:54,690
you are on Facebook.

503
00:30:55,170 --> 00:30:57,060
That's a beautiful thing. We all
want to be who we are.

504
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,030
Beautiful thing we all want to
that actually that's a little

505
00:31:00,030 --> 00:31:02,100
slam at the end. That was kind
of fun. Listen to what she says

506
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:04,740
at the end. That's a beautiful
thing. We all want to be what we

507
00:31:04,740 --> 00:31:07,710
are right rich, you crazy gay PR
guy

508
00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:09,210
on Facebook? Well, that's a

509
00:31:09,210 --> 00:31:11,550
beautiful thing. We all want to
be who we are right, Rich.

510
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:13,650
Right?

511
00:31:13,710 --> 00:31:16,800
You sleeves that subtle. I
hadn't heard

512
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,360
that the first time around as
nice. And so this is to me, I

513
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,750
can't see it any other way than
this? Is Facebook, just taking

514
00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:29,910
advantage of free publicity
basically. And and turn that

515
00:31:29,910 --> 00:31:33,600
into direct advertising dollars.
Because

516
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,240
Oh, yeah, no, this is another
You're right. This is exactly

517
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,200
right. This is a data point for
advertisers, and the NSA and

518
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,440
whoever else, because now you've
just you've given a little bit

519
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,460
more of yourself away, because
you are a whatever these things

520
00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:50,880
are transit jester, whatever
that, you know, whatever, some

521
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,850
of these 50 categories, I'd like
to hear a reading of the 50

522
00:31:53,850 --> 00:31:55,020
categories. Do you have that?

523
00:31:55,230 --> 00:31:58,350
Well, the funny thing is, I went
into Facebook, and I wanted to

524
00:31:58,350 --> 00:32:02,100
try it. And it seems like you
type in a letter and they give

525
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:05,520
you suggestions. But I think you
can do whatever you want to do.

526
00:32:06,090 --> 00:32:08,700
It seems like you can change it
into anything. But here's the

527
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:12,420
rub. So I went in and of course
I put in hetero flexible. I

528
00:32:12,420 --> 00:32:16,080
think that'll be funny. And then
I save it and it says What does

529
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,130
it even mean?

530
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,650
Who cares? The flex hopefully
there'll be able to say everyone

531
00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:23,190
should put it

532
00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:26,400
hetero flexible. And as I put
that in, but then Facebook says,

533
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,090
oh, no, you can't do that. You
have to have two categories of

534
00:32:30,090 --> 00:32:35,970
people with two different gender
descriptions. So you have the I

535
00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:39,090
know it's it's crazy. You cannot
just have one it has to be you

536
00:32:39,090 --> 00:32:42,270
have to you have to have the
same. But you have to have one

537
00:32:42,270 --> 00:32:45,450
for your friends and then one
for public and one for your

538
00:32:45,540 --> 00:32:48,990
what's your red circles? I don't
know. I don't know how Facebook

539
00:32:48,990 --> 00:32:53,160
works is. I'm afraid I'll get
sucked in and become a user.

540
00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:54,540
A robot.

541
00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:56,760
I don't want to get hooked on
it. So I'm

542
00:32:57,270 --> 00:33:00,660
John, Facebook's really not that
bad. I think you've got the

543
00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:02,550
wrong impression. I think so
too.

544
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,100
But then so as I'm researching
this I fall into I think this is

545
00:33:08,130 --> 00:33:14,370
all part of it. The general
neutral gender neutral parenting

546
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,020
movement and community. Oh,
yeah, this is pretty big.

547
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:24,180
Oh, a huge and it's in the Bay
Area. We get a lot of those man

548
00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:27,690
on the street reports from our
local news, where this person is

549
00:33:27,690 --> 00:33:29,940
like, you know, I don't
understand why they keep the

550
00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:32,580
building problem is out of
control because my son wears a

551
00:33:32,580 --> 00:33:35,850
dress. Yeah, and we think he
should wear he should wear

552
00:33:35,850 --> 00:33:39,840
whatever he wants whatever he
wants to do is fine. Yeah, or

553
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,530
we want to raise our son as a
boy and a girl so he won't grow

554
00:33:43,530 --> 00:33:47,940
up aggressive towards women.
Yeah, there's that now there's

555
00:33:47,970 --> 00:33:53,670
there is one and this is
literally parents exposing their

556
00:33:53,670 --> 00:33:59,550
children to me traditional boy
traditional girls stuff, and

557
00:33:59,550 --> 00:34:02,640
lifestyle. Then there's the and
I'm trying to follows then

558
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,660
there's the general the gender
creative parenting, which is

559
00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:09,480
different, which I think is
actually yeah, which I think is

560
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,020
okay, because it's it's not
saying no when your kid wants to

561
00:34:13,020 --> 00:34:18,240
play with adults or wants to
have his hair along or whatever.

562
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:21,840
It's not saying no, you can't do
that. You're a boy that I'm okay

563
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,550
with. I think the name gender
creative parenting is off base

564
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:30,720
because it's just it's a bit
pretentious. Yes. But it seems

565
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:33,060
like every one of these parents
who was in the news you know

566
00:34:33,060 --> 00:34:35,970
like raising my boy chick. I
really

567
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,820
ah, isn't boy chicken old term
for the old a Yiddish term. I

568
00:34:41,820 --> 00:34:44,310
don't know a boy chick a

569
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:48,660
boy boy chick, goat chick I
think is what you think. They

570
00:34:48,660 --> 00:34:55,710
all have a blog or a book or so,
but I think we're all of this is

571
00:34:55,710 --> 00:34:58,830
headed and this is when I'm a
little a little worried about

572
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,140
this. ventually I think is
headed towards what are we

573
00:35:04,650 --> 00:35:10,500
emancipation. And we may want to
be as parents may want to be

574
00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:13,080
careful as what was really
happening because at a certain

575
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,650
point, when it comes to gender,
I think doctors already are

576
00:35:16,650 --> 00:35:18,780
saying, Oh, mom, dad, you have
to step out of the room, because

577
00:35:18,780 --> 00:35:21,330
you're going to talk about
something here with your kid.

578
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:25,350
And that's when the doctor will
say, well, here's some condoms,

579
00:35:25,350 --> 00:35:27,570
you know, but you know, don't
worry if you feel attracted to

580
00:35:27,570 --> 00:35:32,400
girls and or do you have same
sex? And doctors are? So

581
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,370
I, you know, I think you might
be overlooking something, okay.

582
00:35:36,060 --> 00:35:38,850
Which is our basic theme on a
lot of these things. It always

583
00:35:38,850 --> 00:35:41,880
boils down to it, which is
taking our rights away. And in

584
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,330
this case, I would say freedom
of speech again, because this

585
00:35:45,330 --> 00:35:48,330
whole sort of thing, this whole
where you this makes it so

586
00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:52,080
you're disallowed from saying,
you know, your kid is going to

587
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,650
be screwed up if you keep this
up with them. Right? Good to

588
00:35:55,650 --> 00:35:58,410
make you're actually making them
wear a dress. Why is he coming

589
00:35:58,410 --> 00:36:02,910
to school with high heels on?
He's in the fourth grade lady?

590
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,660
Oh, you're bullying me? Yeah,
yeah.

591
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,240
It was I was

592
00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:15,630
much of a society, much of
society especially. And I think

593
00:36:15,630 --> 00:36:17,670
this is also a part of the
world, the movement toward one

594
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:20,220
world government and all the
rest of it was a little wackier.

595
00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:25,050
There's always been this you
know, this movement to, to kind

596
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:31,560
of disintegrate the societal
norms and so far as peer group

597
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,260
pressure is concerned, and if
you have all this this

598
00:36:34,290 --> 00:36:37,320
essentially balkanization of the
social norms, in other words,

599
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,860
no, people just do do. They're
called nuts, kids coming in the

600
00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:43,320
fourth grade with tattoos on
their face, and they're saying

601
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,810
they're a girl. And they, and
they're bald. And I mean,

602
00:36:45,810 --> 00:36:49,800
there's a million possibilities.
And if you can't, you know, if

603
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,580
there's no social norms that
said, No, you know, just as a as

604
00:36:53,580 --> 00:36:56,550
a community, a real community.
In other words, the people that

605
00:36:56,550 --> 00:37:00,210
live in this town can't tell
you, No, you can't do that with

606
00:37:00,210 --> 00:37:04,650
this kid. It is disruptive. And
if you can't do that any more

607
00:37:04,650 --> 00:37:06,840
than the whole society falls
apart, because most of it is

608
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,280
based on this sort of pressure.
But

609
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,520
I would take it just I think I
leapfrog this step. And I took

610
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,650
it one further. And I believe
that the, and we've dealt with

611
00:37:16,650 --> 00:37:20,700
some other UN thing, children's
rights and children have to have

612
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:23,700
rights. And they didn't have to
be able to sue about this to

613
00:37:23,850 --> 00:37:26,520
some shows. Yeah, and there was
some legislation, it's just

614
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,860
coming back to me now. But I
believe when they were 13, or

615
00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:34,470
14, and maybe even 12, that
they're going to start to give

616
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:36,840
these children's so called
Rights, which makes it you know,

617
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:39,660
you gotta be careful because
then people start to tell your

618
00:37:39,660 --> 00:37:41,490
kids what to do against you.

619
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:49,140
Yeah, and that is going on now
to an extent to an extent. Many

620
00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:52,260
kids come home from his school.
Yeah. Which is a reason for

621
00:37:52,260 --> 00:37:57,420
homeschooling. And they kept his
crackpot notions that are fed to

622
00:37:57,420 --> 00:38:00,870
him by their teacher and I mean,
I've had it with the with Eric

623
00:38:00,870 --> 00:38:05,910
to shill. I bust killed Jr, who
came home with some what, what,

624
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:09,900
what have learned that? Oh, no,
it's mostly stuff like Columbus.

625
00:38:10,170 --> 00:38:13,710
Columbus is a slaver and he's a
horrible person that should be

626
00:38:14,010 --> 00:38:17,220
we should have indigenous day
rather than because we killed

627
00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:20,610
the Indians and we're horrible.
As a culture. We all stink we

628
00:38:20,610 --> 00:38:22,260
should shoot ourselves in the
head.

629
00:38:22,530 --> 00:38:26,280
The American Academy of poetry
acts of Paediatrics has embraced

630
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,900
the youth rights campaign and
movement. In recent policy

631
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:35,250
statements on emergency
contraception and care of LGBTQ

632
00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:40,530
youth. It could you people get
it right is LGBTQ Qi. The AAP

633
00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:43,380
That's the American Academy of
Paediatrics, urges paediatric

634
00:38:43,380 --> 00:38:47,430
paediatricians who counsel,
educate, counsel, educate and

635
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:50,250
support young people in the
exercise of their sexual and

636
00:38:50,250 --> 00:38:56,460
reproductive rights. This is 12
and 13 year olds. The AAP

637
00:38:56,730 --> 00:38:59,190
informs us physicians that
regardless of the adolescents

638
00:38:59,190 --> 00:39:01,440
current intent intentions for
sexual behaviour, the

639
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,720
paediatrician should discuss
sexual safety and family

640
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:07,290
planning as a matter of routine
routine, anticipatory guidance.

641
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:14,640
The conscientious paediatrician
will go by offering to supply

642
00:39:14,730 --> 00:39:18,750
supply both boys and girls with
emergency contraception to have

643
00:39:18,750 --> 00:39:23,250
on hand in case of future need.
And this is done without parents

644
00:39:23,250 --> 00:39:29,310
consent 12 and 13 year olds,
and, and by the way, I'm, I

645
00:39:29,340 --> 00:39:33,930
handed out stuff to my daughter
even before that, but that's my

646
00:39:33,930 --> 00:39:38,340
decision. Not some association
of Paediatrics as to what

647
00:39:38,340 --> 00:39:43,710
they're going to do. And that
it, I think it runs both ways.

648
00:39:43,710 --> 00:39:46,560
Parents have to take
responsibility, and we're easy

649
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,200
to just hand it over.

650
00:39:49,770 --> 00:39:52,560
Yeah, and there are some parents
who are irresponsible and crappy

651
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,050
and I think they'll be targeting
them. You said well, there's a

652
00:39:55,050 --> 00:39:58,500
good this one is beside the
point because they still have

653
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:04,320
these rights. As they, you know,
bore the kid and raise the kid

654
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,660
and pay for the kids school and
do whatever they have to do if

655
00:40:06,660 --> 00:40:08,220
they hit you know if they can
manage.

656
00:40:09,570 --> 00:40:11,130
That's not right. That's
ownerships

657
00:40:11,820 --> 00:40:14,820
like Sparta they lead ideally
that some people would love to

658
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:17,940
take all the kids you have a kid
goes right to training camp,

659
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:21,990
never sees the parents on step
down maybe once a month, that'd

660
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:22,620
be perfect.

661
00:40:22,740 --> 00:40:25,380
You put something in the
newsletter, which relates to

662
00:40:25,380 --> 00:40:30,060
this, by the way, big kudos. Our
friend who does the newsletter

663
00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:35,100
for the spin class place. She's
She She reads our our

664
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:37,770
newsletters, because she does a
newsletter and she's a big fan

665
00:40:37,770 --> 00:40:42,150
of your newsletter. And she
thought the cat stroking the

666
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:45,540
dolphin was just about the best
thing she'd ever seen. She

667
00:40:45,540 --> 00:40:48,090
thought that was just she's
like, that was almost no fair.

668
00:40:48,210 --> 00:40:50,580
Just how can you top that
there's nothing better than

669
00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:50,850
that.

670
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:54,660
I spent a lot of times

671
00:40:55,470 --> 00:41:00,930
good work. Here's the Ellen
Page. She's an actor. And she

672
00:41:00,930 --> 00:41:10,650
chose the Human Rights Campaign
to out herself. And I had I

673
00:41:10,650 --> 00:41:13,170
didn't even know I didn't know
who Ellen Page was until I saw

674
00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:15,330
the newsletter. And then I went
looking for her. I'm like, Okay,

675
00:41:15,330 --> 00:41:18,960
I know who she is. So I have
this this minute and a half of

676
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,020
her coming out is that relevant
to play in regards to what you

677
00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:24,240
wrote about her? No, play it and
we'll find out. We

678
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:29,520
took just five minutes to
recognise each other's beauty

679
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:33,810
instead of attacking each other
for our differences. That's not

680
00:41:33,810 --> 00:41:37,860
hard. It's really an easier and
better way to live.

681
00:41:37,950 --> 00:41:42,330
And this is exactly not what HRC
and HR w are doing. They are not

682
00:41:42,330 --> 00:41:45,360
taking five minutes to look at
the beauty and the rainbows and

683
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,900
the unicorns, which I'm all for
instead, they are yelling, Putin

684
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:53,370
hates gays, Putin hates gays.
It's not it's true. It's not

685
00:41:53,370 --> 00:41:56,250
constructive. It's just not it's
not a constructive thing.

686
00:41:56,430 --> 00:42:00,390
It who says it's supposed to be
she just said it. But she's an

687
00:42:00,390 --> 00:42:01,260
idiot. She's

688
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,010
She's there on behalf of Human
Rights Campaign. Who are the

689
00:42:05,010 --> 00:42:06,810
people yelling this?

690
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,230
Yes, I know. But this just,
she's the she's the

691
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:13,410
counterbalance. It's like maybe
you won't notice that they're

692
00:42:13,410 --> 00:42:16,590
doing what you just described.
Oh, yeah. And they're all just a

693
00:42:16,590 --> 00:42:18,600
bunch of good people. This is a
great operation.

694
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,960
It saves lives. Then again, it
can be the hardest thing.

695
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,400
Because loving other people
starts with loving ourselves and

696
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,570
accepting ourselves.

697
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,730
And I know many of you have
struggled with this. And I draw

698
00:42:35,730 --> 00:42:39,600
upon your strength and your
support in ways that you will

699
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:48,000
never know. And I am here today
because I am gay. And because

700
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,150
I do want to say with 50
categories on Facebook, with big

701
00:43:00,150 --> 00:43:03,270
applause when you're outing
yourself. How come when I say

702
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:08,550
I'm by curious, which is a
category on Backpage. It's a

703
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:13,560
category on Craigslist. How come
I get no one's applauding food?

704
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,690
I get shouted down.

705
00:43:16,290 --> 00:43:18,930
It gets shouted down. Well,
you're not Ellen Page and cutie.

706
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:23,640
Yeah. But it's that's horrible,
by the way, but by the way, she

707
00:43:23,790 --> 00:43:29,490
I've heard her before. She is so
nervous. Yes, she's very well, I

708
00:43:29,490 --> 00:43:32,220
mean, she is extremely nervous
may have been a big deal. I

709
00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:32,640
mean, I can

710
00:43:32,670 --> 00:43:33,630
totally and I'm sure

711
00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:35,850
it was it made a lot of people I
you know, the funny thing is you

712
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:39,810
do a lot of public speaking.
Especially if you've never

713
00:43:39,810 --> 00:43:43,740
really been nervous in front of
a big crowd. You will find a

714
00:43:43,740 --> 00:43:48,420
moment someplace in your in your
career of talking to people and

715
00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:51,870
talking to the public where you
actually get nervous. It

716
00:43:51,870 --> 00:43:56,880
happened to me once and it's
extremely annoying. I got

717
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,120
nervous it happened. So yeah,
the only time I've ever gotten

718
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,190
nervous talking in front of the
city council. Really? Those

719
00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:06,090
heads?

720
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:09,720
Yeah, that's I know. That's the
joke of it. That's funny.

721
00:44:12,570 --> 00:44:14,190
Not sure why, anyway, go on. But

722
00:44:14,190 --> 00:44:17,400
I've had Yeah, of course, I've
had it. I think I had it once

723
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,260
with maybe it was Mick Jagger or
something. Or I was interviewing

724
00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:26,310
someone and all of a sudden just
fucking lost it. which had never

725
00:44:26,310 --> 00:44:32,790
happened to me before. Maybe it
was Quincy Jones, but I was

726
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:38,040
drinking then. I don't know.
Anyway, the I guess the point

727
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,640
that I'm saying here is there's
a matrix of this NGO crap that

728
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,170
is pulled all around us and I
appreciate that you kind of

729
00:44:46,170 --> 00:44:49,170
broke your embargo. Although I
think you held to the letter you

730
00:44:49,170 --> 00:44:53,400
didn't write anything up, but
told us about this. We need to

731
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,090
use it to know I

732
00:44:54,090 --> 00:44:57,270
didn't break an embargo. I would
this was an oral agreement a and

733
00:44:57,270 --> 00:45:01,830
it was about writing about it.
poured on it. But here's the

734
00:45:01,860 --> 00:45:05,280
here's the proviso that went in
there says, You can't talk, you

735
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,010
can't write about it, you can't
talk about this. This is, this

736
00:45:08,010 --> 00:45:12,030
is a non This is a private
event, but you can tweet about

737
00:45:12,030 --> 00:45:16,350
it. Right? So if I can tweet
about it, this is me say social

738
00:45:16,350 --> 00:45:18,870
media is open gaming, this is
Social Media, what we're doing.

739
00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:24,720
So I but I, regardless of how
we, we break this news, the two

740
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:28,440
things are one, we need to take
advantage of this for ourselves.

741
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,620
And we really need to use that.
And I'm just, I am now

742
00:45:31,650 --> 00:45:36,030
officially crowning us with the
title of NGO. And we need to be

743
00:45:36,030 --> 00:45:40,380
very, very vigilant. And
continuously look into all of

744
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:44,130
these operations that we have
been trained to accept as the

745
00:45:44,130 --> 00:45:49,470
good guys, because they're just
not. And even the good guys who

746
00:45:49,470 --> 00:45:53,070
have these good intentions, are
really just misusing their

747
00:45:53,070 --> 00:45:55,650
causes to further political
agenda.

748
00:45:56,190 --> 00:45:59,970
Yeah, no, in fact, this is what
I claimed on the last show.

749
00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:04,680
Looking at Edelman's complete
list, he first stumbled on this

750
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:08,370
the first time he did the truth
survey and started to notice it

751
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:12,660
as a major trend. And that was
14 years ago. So governments

752
00:46:12,660 --> 00:46:15,960
themselves Yes, and he made a
billion dollars doing they

753
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,350
looked at that they looked at
what this guy's like this, this

754
00:46:19,350 --> 00:46:24,000
character is a hotshot. And he's
one of the hasn't one of the

755
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,880
major public relations
operations in the world. And

756
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,630
when he says something like
that, people take notice and

757
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:33,180
then wishes I think the reason
they want to keep a bit quiet as

758
00:46:33,180 --> 00:46:36,630
they can they take notice and
literally take advantage of it.

759
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:41,220
And he was very was trusting the
NGOs. Let's just become an NGO.

760
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,100
And as you just did, well, if
nobody likes that, we're

761
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:47,400
podcasters. Well, let's just
become an NGO, which we can,

762
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:50,760
yes, we are not cast as an NGO.
It's a non governmental

763
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,530
organisation. Yes, we are guys.

764
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:58,410
We are an NGO by subscription.
It's subscribed, please

765
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,220
subscribe to my NGO on iTunes.
Yes, we're an

766
00:47:02,220 --> 00:47:04,980
NGO. But no, there's no there is
no right. I don't see any word

767
00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:08,070
any rule that says an NGO has to
be a nonprofit charitable

768
00:47:08,070 --> 00:47:09,060
organisation. Let's

769
00:47:09,060 --> 00:47:16,050
check out the book of knowledge.
Let's just see. Governmental

770
00:47:16,050 --> 00:47:19,440
organisation, I don't think you
have to be a nonprofit. I don't

771
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,430
think you have to have some kind
of certificate. Non Governmental

772
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:23,970
is no such

773
00:47:23,970 --> 00:47:27,870
thing is like being a reporter.
You don't need to have a you

774
00:47:27,870 --> 00:47:29,670
don't need yet. You don't need a
licence.

775
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:32,940
Oh, hold on. Yeah, this is true.
I think I just as it's opening

776
00:47:32,940 --> 00:47:34,680
up, and for some reason,
everything's going slow today,

777
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,040
here, listen to this. The term
non governmental organisation,

778
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,000
NGO, normally, which means not
always refers to organisations

779
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,500
that are neither a part of a
government nor conventional for

780
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:50,820
profit business, I'd say. Yeah,
we're highly unconventional,

781
00:47:50,970 --> 00:47:56,220
usually usually set up by
ordinary citizens who for to

782
00:47:56,550 --> 00:47:59,820
NGOs may be funded by
governments, foundations, or

783
00:47:59,820 --> 00:48:00,870
businesses.

784
00:48:01,530 --> 00:48:04,830
Now, we don't get any we get
some business support,

785
00:48:04,860 --> 00:48:09,150
some of wait some avoid formal
funding altogether, and are run

786
00:48:09,150 --> 00:48:15,240
primarily by volunteers. NGOs
are highly diverse group of

787
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:18,540
organisations engage with the
right wide range of activities,

788
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:21,120
and take different forms in
different parts of the world.

789
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:24,990
Some may have charitable status,
while others may be registered

790
00:48:24,990 --> 00:48:28,470
for tax exemption based on
recognition or social purposes.

791
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,710
Other may be fronts for
political, religious or other

792
00:48:31,710 --> 00:48:38,730
interest groups. Well, that's
us. A front for our rent. Yeah,

793
00:48:38,730 --> 00:48:42,600
that's what we are. The number
of NGOs operating in the United

794
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,620
States estimated one and a half
million NGOs, one and a half

795
00:48:46,620 --> 00:48:48,810
million, and that's not
nonprofits. That's one half

796
00:48:48,810 --> 00:48:52,920
million NGOs. Yeah, that's just

797
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:58,620
outrageous. That doesn't include
Russia, which has 277,000, it

798
00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:00,750
says, and those are probably
mostly American,

799
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,230
or American now have to be
registered as foreign agents.

800
00:49:04,859 --> 00:49:05,909
Look at India,

801
00:49:06,029 --> 00:49:10,859
how are they doing? 3.3 million
NGOs? What are they? How's that

802
00:49:10,859 --> 00:49:11,609
working out?

803
00:49:12,090 --> 00:49:15,360
There's just one NGO per 400
Indians.

804
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:23,190
That should be our ratio. Wow.
Yeah. Okay. So I think we fit

805
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:26,970
the mould we can just use the is
there any monitoring and control

806
00:49:27,090 --> 00:49:33,300
way to some organisation Hold
on. Kofi Annan, I just didn't

807
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:36,240
know if we have to register
anywhere legal form of legal

808
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,920
status, legal form of NGOs.

809
00:49:37,980 --> 00:49:41,460
We'll hold on a second. Now that
I think about this, and I think

810
00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:45,960
we discussed this on a show
about a year and a half ago. The

811
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,400
United Nations has some sort of
list of official NGOs that

812
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,290
somehow promote whatever and I
believe at least I tried and

813
00:49:55,290 --> 00:49:58,530
maybe you did to get to fill out
the forms necessary to be

814
00:49:58,530 --> 00:50:02,010
listing listing the show As one
of their approved operations,

815
00:50:02,010 --> 00:50:04,530
but it was so confusing. I think
we gave up on it and then stop

816
00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:05,190
talking about it.

817
00:50:05,820 --> 00:50:09,000
Well, so here the legal status
legal form of NGOs is diverse

818
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,640
and depends upon homegrown
variations in each country's

819
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,780
laws. In practice, however, four
main family groups of NGOs can

820
00:50:15,780 --> 00:50:18,360
be found worldwide
unincorporated and voluntary

821
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,410
association. I think that's us.
We're not incorporated. And

822
00:50:22,410 --> 00:50:26,400
we're voluntary association.
Trust charities and foundations

823
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:31,590
companies not just for profit.
Oh, hello. It's not just for

824
00:50:31,590 --> 00:50:37,590
profit. That's us. We're not
just for profit. Exactly. We're

825
00:50:37,590 --> 00:50:39,690
for fun. comedic value.

826
00:50:39,690 --> 00:50:43,170
We're here to serve the public
needs for real information. Yes.

827
00:50:43,260 --> 00:50:43,830
Value for

828
00:50:43,830 --> 00:50:47,370
value entities formed or
registered under special NGO or

829
00:50:47,370 --> 00:50:51,210
nonprofit laws. Okay, we're not
in that. All right. Well, we

830
00:50:51,210 --> 00:50:53,310
should probably look into that
again, see if there's a list we

831
00:50:53,310 --> 00:50:58,200
can get on someone can certainly
get us on a list. That's, that's

832
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,660
valid. And then isn't there?
Like no, I

833
00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:03,240
think we have a better shot now
than we did before. Yeah.

834
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,780
There's certainly there's some
kind of seal or stamp of

835
00:51:06,780 --> 00:51:10,350
approval or ribbon or some
banner, we can put it on our

836
00:51:10,350 --> 00:51:15,090
website that makes us official.
Don't you think there's got to

837
00:51:15,090 --> 00:51:20,940
be so pack them in. That'll pack
them in? Oh, they're official so

838
00:51:20,940 --> 00:51:24,120
I can listen to their show now.
Well, John, thank

839
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,480
you for your courage. And in the
morning to you, John C. Dvorak.

840
00:51:27,810 --> 00:51:29,670
In the morning, do you Adam
curry in the morning and all the

841
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:31,260
ships and sea boots on the
ground, feet in the air,

842
00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:33,600
subsequent water and all the
days and nights out there. And

843
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:33,780
to

844
00:51:33,780 --> 00:51:36,480
our artists, thank you very much
for all of the wonderful work

845
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,750
that you provide us with that.
No agenda art generator.com

846
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,430
Episode five, nine or two,
Martin JJ back. And we look

847
00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:48,300
forward to seeing what happens
today. And we always appreciate

848
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:51,000
the work that our artists do for
our album. Marty.

849
00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:55,950
Before you get finished in the
morning, to say something about

850
00:51:55,950 --> 00:51:57,060
the art in the morning in

851
00:51:57,090 --> 00:52:03,060
the chat room, people. Oh, yeah,
I've been so nice today. Is this

852
00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:06,150
is my favourite. When someone
just types a whole line of z's.

853
00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:09,060
Like I guess they're bored or
something about what we're

854
00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:10,950
talking about z's. Yeah.

855
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:15,690
Oh, boy, me. Yep. So bored.

856
00:52:15,899 --> 00:52:19,499
Look at your life. Loser. You're
listening to a podcast.

857
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:23,850
I want to I want to mention
something about Martin JJ and

858
00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:28,800
the art. Yeah, just to the other
artists. Just I mentioned this

859
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,830
about three, four months ago, I
mentioned it again, I went back

860
00:52:31,830 --> 00:52:34,380
and looked at old art because I
was digging up something for the

861
00:52:34,380 --> 00:52:39,120
newsletter. And I noticed that
like years ago, Martin JJ was

862
00:52:39,180 --> 00:52:42,780
constantly sending stuff in. And
I don't think we picked his

863
00:52:42,780 --> 00:52:47,130
stuff for two years. Because he
was missing it. You know, he

864
00:52:47,130 --> 00:52:52,440
just did a little thing there a
little bit. He wasn't nailing

865
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,670
it. And and so this is a thing
that I would do. I'm just saying

866
00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:59,220
this because I don't want to
dis. I don't want to see artists

867
00:52:59,220 --> 00:53:01,740
discouraged, because we don't
pick their art.

868
00:53:03,390 --> 00:53:06,540
So what you're saying is keep
going out at Attaboy. Is that

869
00:53:08,250 --> 00:53:11,280
what I'm saying? I have no idea
what I'm talking about trying

870
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,400
and one day the gods have no
agenda, the NGO might choose

871
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,250
you, we might bestow you with
the honour.

872
00:53:18,510 --> 00:53:20,310
Okay, yeah, pretty much.

873
00:53:20,430 --> 00:53:23,070
So the way this programme works,
and the only reason why we can

874
00:53:23,070 --> 00:53:26,940
even bring up the topic of NGOs,
because we're not afraid we

875
00:53:26,940 --> 00:53:31,320
don't have to pay our, our rent
from the NGOs, who we have to go

876
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,880
and be nice to to get a handout.
We don't have to do any of that.

877
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,550
We'd have to be nice to
advertisers. All we have to do

878
00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:41,730
is satisfy the people who
actually produce this programme.

879
00:53:41,730 --> 00:53:44,910
They are our producers, and they
support us with all kinds of

880
00:53:44,910 --> 00:53:48,270
information and also financially
and the top donors for each

881
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:51,390
episode. There are executive and
Associate Executive producers

882
00:53:51,540 --> 00:53:55,590
and a good list today to kick us
off into into the new week.

883
00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:00,450
That's your I do want to
mention, we also have this new

884
00:54:00,450 --> 00:54:03,450
category called Special
executive producer just for show

885
00:54:03,450 --> 00:54:08,700
600. Yes. And we do have first
just random number. I guess

886
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:12,930
three people showed up today.
Wow. Taking that honour, Sir

887
00:54:12,930 --> 00:54:16,980
David Foley $600.33 And he's in
Los Gatos we know him he's the

888
00:54:17,010 --> 00:54:19,470
what was the name which he does
4k? What's his name of his

889
00:54:19,470 --> 00:54:25,170
4k 4k special.com use N A for a
discount but I believe now Sir

890
00:54:25,170 --> 00:54:29,880
David Foley is the Is he the
Grand Duke? No,

891
00:54:30,810 --> 00:54:32,640
no, no, he's he's got he's

892
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,280
the Archduke. He's still
Archduke of Silicon Valley's up

893
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:35,760
there, but he's

894
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:41,460
in Grand Duke is going as hard.
In The Morning John and Adam

895
00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:44,730
sorry for the gap and supporting
your courage. Please find my

896
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,840
club 600 membership payment and
33 cents for good measure. Nice

897
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,230
and you'll get a special there
Hank and Sir Hank and Kew

898
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:57,240
Gardens New York $600. Thank you
for your hard work at please

899
00:54:57,240 --> 00:55:00,630
give a Karma shot for you and
everyone out out there to keep

900
00:55:00,630 --> 00:55:09,360
hitting people in the mouth.
You've got karma Sir Howard

901
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:14,250
crowd Longmont, Colorado. I have
I have it. I have the no you

902
00:55:14,250 --> 00:55:16,320
have the No I didn't. I couldn't
find those from him and his

903
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:16,740
brother.

904
00:55:16,770 --> 00:55:20,730
It's kind of funny because I
forward the note to Eric. And

905
00:55:20,730 --> 00:55:24,540
then he puts in the spreadsheet,
you got an email about it? Well,

906
00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:26,910
yeah, that's why I forwarded it
to you. Anyway,

907
00:55:26,940 --> 00:55:29,430
so I thought he's not going to
type all that crap in it. Oh,

908
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:36,390
I'm sorry. CTRL C Ctrl. V. My
hands hurts.

909
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:39,000
Whatever. Just three the note
pile everyone

910
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,580
the crop brothers look forward
to producing show five, nine or

911
00:55:41,580 --> 00:55:44,460
two and the 600th edition of the
greatest podcast in the

912
00:55:44,460 --> 00:55:47,280
universe. We thought that
Victoria Nuland segment was

913
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:53,940
great, fantastic analysis, Mr.
Dvorak. Moreover, Adam, you're

914
00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:56,820
spot on with your assessment of
Facebook. Keep it up. Today's

915
00:55:56,820 --> 00:56:00,300
donation makes the crud brothers
a night. We'd like to be known

916
00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:05,430
collectively as the night of
89th and bluegrass. Of course no

917
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:07,770
crowd brothers producers ship
would be complete without Adams

918
00:56:07,770 --> 00:56:13,290
patented shout out to Eleanor.
I'm not quite sure what that

919
00:56:13,290 --> 00:56:14,760
time did Shout Out is

920
00:56:15,210 --> 00:56:17,340
Yeah, your patented shout out
you No,

921
00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:24,780
no, no. Okay, by the way, keep
thinking about a real time

922
00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:29,310
donation mechanism for those who
listen to the live feed. That's

923
00:56:29,340 --> 00:56:32,580
Paul and Howard crowd, a couple
of Jews from FEMA regions to and

924
00:56:32,580 --> 00:56:37,380
aid beautiful and there'll be
knighted later on today. I like

925
00:56:37,380 --> 00:56:41,280
the idea of of real time
donations. You know, I think you

926
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,660
just cut people off while
they're listening to the live

927
00:56:45,660 --> 00:56:49,140
feed, where if they say
something dumb in the chat room,

928
00:56:49,140 --> 00:56:51,480
just cut them off and charge him
to get back in.

929
00:56:52,169 --> 00:56:56,219
So Leo does so he doesn't charge
them to get back in that's a

930
00:56:56,249 --> 00:56:57,299
that's a twist. That would

931
00:56:57,540 --> 00:57:01,320
be cool. That's like you can get
an extra five bucks you can get

932
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,000
an M five cheap

933
00:57:03,450 --> 00:57:08,220
to pay five bucks to get back in
bounds. That's gonna cost you 10

934
00:57:09,390 --> 00:57:14,130
We really appreciate the special
producer ship from the crowd

935
00:57:14,130 --> 00:57:16,500
brothers. Thank you very much,
gentlemen, and we'll be look

936
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:18,450
forward to knighting you later
today.

937
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:29,760
Grant signer cyno are $592 from
Leawood Kansas. He'll be an

938
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,820
executive producer this my
return is producer after calling

939
00:57:32,820 --> 00:57:38,700
out helmet head and fisherman as
complete douchebags on show 550

940
00:57:39,330 --> 00:57:44,310
helmet head has stepped up and
deduced himself so that is that

941
00:57:44,310 --> 00:57:47,880
just these fishermen as the
remaining supreme freeloading

942
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:54,990
commander of the douchebag dumb
you I think we should douchebag

943
00:57:54,990 --> 00:58:01,530
and of course I'm happy. I think
this is I guess to this dude,

944
00:58:01,530 --> 00:58:06,450
the model is value for free. I
think the only thing left to do

945
00:58:06,510 --> 00:58:12,840
is to appeal to the D bags wife.
I encourage everyone to like her

946
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:18,540
Hagen Hill photography page on
Facebook. At last check she has

947
00:58:18,540 --> 00:58:22,710
three she has pull a paltry
three two and a 34 likes then

948
00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:27,090
maybe the cheap DBA will pony up
under a new value for my wife's

949
00:58:27,090 --> 00:58:31,470
value model. Lastly, this puts
me past the coveted knighthood

950
00:58:31,470 --> 00:58:35,340
dollar amount Please shake a
rain stick for me. We should

951
00:58:35,340 --> 00:58:36,240
shake the reins to get

952
00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:40,920
where does where does he want to
be Kansas City? I do get

953
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,870
appointed the right way because
we've been getting a little bit

954
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:44,010
of flack from the UK.

955
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,980
I still need some here. Okay,

956
00:58:47,010 --> 00:58:54,450
I'm going to do Kansas City.
Perfect. Now I don't know I do

957
00:58:54,450 --> 00:58:58,680
it. Grant does not seem to be on
the list. In fact, and neither

958
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,470
do the crop brothers.
Interestingly enough.

959
00:59:02,220 --> 00:59:09,120
Okay, well put them on the list.
Drago, arigato 592 Walton cross

960
00:59:09,180 --> 00:59:14,250
Hertfordshire My name is Diego
and I have been a cheap bastard.

961
00:59:14,910 --> 00:59:18,330
Please de douche me and give me
some relocation karma as I'll be

962
00:59:18,330 --> 00:59:22,080
moving from Gitmo nation east
the femur region to New Jersey.

963
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,060
You guys are awesome.

964
00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:27,090
Oh, I was like, I just like
that's just that's the opening

965
00:59:27,090 --> 00:59:31,290
of a movie if I ever seen one.
Hello. My name is Diego. And I

966
00:59:31,290 --> 00:59:34,950
have been a cheap bastard. Do
you think that's a good opening

967
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:36,510
for a movie? I'd be perfect.

968
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:43,710
You've been de Deus. You've got
karma. You go.

969
00:59:44,190 --> 00:59:49,440
Do you do that Tarantino written
all over it does I agree. Aaron

970
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,950
bear in Wilkes Barre,
Pennsylvania. No coincidence

971
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:57,000
spelled differently. $500 Hey
JCD here's a famous movie line

972
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:01,380
for you. You sell put some
cheese on that. motherfucker Man

973
01:00:05,250 --> 01:00:07,590
What did I don't know? I have no
idea. I have no idea what that

974
01:00:07,590 --> 01:00:09,960
movies from. It's something to
do with cheddar cheese and a

975
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,250
burger. Growing up in a public
in public is not easy. It's not

976
01:00:14,250 --> 01:00:19,170
easy, homie. Take it easy. Oh
this is talking to you a grown

977
01:00:19,170 --> 01:00:22,830
up in Publix not easy, homie.
Take it easy on the old boy JCD

978
01:00:22,830 --> 01:00:27,960
and don't be so mean. By the way
the segway into Episode 5/92

979
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:33,060
donation karma thing was
flawless. Okay, so I agree with

980
01:00:33,060 --> 01:00:38,520
that your stop it. Tim wood
Schinsky in Elkins, West

981
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:47,040
Virginia 333 33 by Tm. O N I'm
sorry. No, sorry. That's dealer.

982
01:00:47,070 --> 01:00:49,980
Dear John. Just sharing the love
of my recent signing bonus. You

983
01:00:49,980 --> 01:00:51,000
got a signing bonus. Very

984
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,970
nice graduation is Kim. That's
great blue jewels.

985
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,750
$333 from Arlington, Virginia
just says ITM that's you know,

986
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,140
he's in Arlington. Hello. Well,
why would he say more?

987
01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:09,360
I would have to agree with that.
Yes. And actually, if you knew

988
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,200
the issue, I decided to protect
him. So I'm not telling the

989
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,410
whole story about anything.
Good. I'll tell you later. All

990
01:01:16,410 --> 01:01:18,870
right. I'm not trying to keep it
from anyone. Okay, I'll tell

991
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:28,200
you. It came in. He sent this in
an envelope with the return

992
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,680
address of the Electronic
Frontier Foundation in San

993
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,940
Francisco. Okay. So I don't know
something fishy about it. Sir.

994
01:01:35,940 --> 01:01:43,470
Mark Barron if Tokyo's our mark.
Yeah. 262 18. Okay, that's the

995
01:01:43,470 --> 01:01:46,500
$10 you got $10 for every mile.
He'll be running in the Tokyo

996
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:49,350
Marathon next Sunday. 23rd of
February. So he's running a 26

997
01:01:49,350 --> 01:01:55,770
mile marathon. And I have WWE no
agenda show emblazoned across my

998
01:01:55,770 --> 01:01:59,610
lycra. So other you know, it's
like Cary Sherman, who's

999
01:01:59,610 --> 01:02:02,250
disappeared from our listening
listenership used to put it

1000
01:02:02,250 --> 01:02:05,400
across there but yeah, so other
producers should look at me

1001
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,920
along the way so anyone can
Tokyo go watch the race and

1002
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,430
watch for the guy running around
with a no agenda show? On his

1003
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:15,900
back? Maybe it's front. I'm not
well, I'm not out promoting no

1004
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:18,690
agenda. I will be raising money
for home for all that we're

1005
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,480
building in Soma city a few
miles from the exclusion zone

1006
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,700
and Fukushima things are still
pretty tough there and kids

1007
01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:26,790
cannot play outside. So Dame
Astrid and I are designing an

1008
01:02:26,790 --> 01:02:30,510
indoor Park. Check out my
Indiegogo campaign for more

1009
01:02:30,510 --> 01:02:35,700
deets deets. Just do a search
for Tokyo on the Indiegogo site

1010
01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:40,290
and I will pop up. If you
support my campaign, you will be

1011
01:02:40,290 --> 01:02:44,070
able to see me run live from
RunKeeper account the RunKeeper

1012
01:02:44,070 --> 01:02:47,310
account route photos and heart
size, heart rate, heart rate.

1013
01:02:47,580 --> 01:02:51,150
It's got a big heart. At least
the NSA and my health insurance

1014
01:02:51,150 --> 01:02:53,760
company will know where I am.
I've been training for the last

1015
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,120
six months and lost almost 20
kilogrammes in the process. And

1016
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:57,960
wow

1017
01:02:59,700 --> 01:03:01,050
that's that's pretty good. Mark.

1018
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:06,930
That's 545 50 pounds. That's it
was he wasn't a fat guy was he

1019
01:03:06,930 --> 01:03:09,420
know he was to British? Yeah, I

1020
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:14,190
have almost run the length of
Japan. No agenda has been my on

1021
01:03:14,190 --> 01:03:17,460
with me all the way up great.
Companions, training companions

1022
01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:21,390
far better than those friendly,
trendy spinning trainers. They

1023
01:03:21,450 --> 01:03:23,700
show it just gets better and
better. Thanks from Tokyo Sir

1024
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:24,090
Mark.

1025
01:03:25,050 --> 01:03:28,230
So for your edification, it
looks like Miss Mickey and I

1026
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:34,500
will be going to Tokyo in May.
Miss Mickey has been offered a

1027
01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:41,580
show and are our barons over
there in Tokyo. We're going to

1028
01:03:41,580 --> 01:03:42,390
hook us up

1029
01:03:45,780 --> 01:03:51,330
I'm going somewhere in March
troit I'm going to Detroit.

1030
01:03:52,380 --> 01:03:56,640
Finally again, I got a speaking
thing. Oh Troy's I'm gonna. I'm

1031
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,610
gonna go to Detroit. Better
pictures and

1032
01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:05,130
I'm gonna why I'm gonna go up to
Fukushima. I'm gonna go. I'm

1033
01:04:05,130 --> 01:04:07,680
gonna get irradiated. I'm gonna
take a Geiger counter use a

1034
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,290
little radiation. I'm gonna take
a Geiger counter and take

1035
01:04:10,290 --> 01:04:14,370
videos. Look. Oh my god, it's
clicking.

1036
01:04:15,810 --> 01:04:17,730
You should this is going

1037
01:04:17,730 --> 01:04:21,180
viral baby. You're dying on the
West Coast. Thank you very much

1038
01:04:21,180 --> 01:04:24,600
sir mark. highly appreciate and
not just the donation but also

1039
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:30,540
what you're doing for the kids.
And the home for all. Very nice.

1040
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,160
Was that Oh, that was it. That
was the last one.

1041
01:04:32,910 --> 01:04:36,030
Yeah, that was closed our
Associate Executive Producers

1042
01:04:36,030 --> 01:04:39,180
segment and executive producer
segment in this special

1043
01:04:39,180 --> 01:04:42,990
executive producer segment for
show 592 Don't forget we have

1044
01:04:42,990 --> 01:04:45,060
another show coming up on
Thursday. Go to divorce

1045
01:04:45,060 --> 01:04:50,550
act.org/in A divorce.org/n.

1046
01:04:50,610 --> 01:04:53,310
A and as always, these credits
are good where credits are

1047
01:04:53,310 --> 01:04:55,740
accepted and remember our
formula.

1048
01:04:55,950 --> 01:05:00,660
Our formula is this. We go out
for up Pulling them out

1049
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:19,740
Yay.

1050
01:05:23,790 --> 01:05:27,750
I heard that apparently Eric is
selling those 33 bags. Now

1051
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:28,650
they're selling quite

1052
01:05:28,650 --> 01:05:31,290
a few of them are there on the
website on the no agenda niche?

1053
01:05:31,290 --> 01:05:31,740
Yes.

1054
01:05:32,340 --> 01:05:35,820
I have been surprised he has
sent some samples out to us. He

1055
01:05:36,330 --> 01:05:39,450
He did ask me and then he said
you want someone to give me a

1056
01:05:39,450 --> 01:05:41,940
couple? I mean, I don't know if
you sell him I'm happy to have a

1057
01:05:41,940 --> 01:05:42,420
few.

1058
01:05:43,230 --> 01:05:45,720
And then it'd be cool to go out
and then

1059
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:50,160
he came back to the post office
rejected your address. He had my

1060
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:54,480
address from a year ago. Weird.
I had so I have not actually

1061
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,490
received my bags yet. No forward
to it. I did receive I did

1062
01:05:59,490 --> 01:06:04,620
receive yet another healthy
surprise box. I didn't Oh, and

1063
01:06:04,650 --> 01:06:06,870
that's also going this will be
the last one because I keep

1064
01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:09,570
telling Joe to email me because
he's going to go into the old

1065
01:06:09,570 --> 01:06:12,810
address and now the the post
office won't forward anymore.

1066
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:18,690
But in there I had and maybe you
had this in a previous box. The

1067
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:31,890
freshly wild kale joy with must
eat mesquite. And it's almost

1068
01:06:31,890 --> 01:06:36,030
like the Lord is messing with
me. Because then NPR has some

1069
01:06:36,030 --> 01:06:39,150
deal with Ted which I think
ruins both brands quite

1070
01:06:39,150 --> 01:06:42,300
honestly. ted.npr.org

1071
01:06:42,690 --> 01:06:45,870
and they have really tipped on
NPR news to me. Oh

1072
01:06:45,870 --> 01:06:49,800
yeah, no. So they had this whole
show a whole Ted show where

1073
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,130
they're playing little snippets
including Dr. Terry walls. I

1074
01:06:53,130 --> 01:06:56,340
started with greens because
their greens. By the way, can we

1075
01:06:56,340 --> 01:07:02,220
stop? This is almost as bad as
veggies. Greens. You find greens

1076
01:07:02,220 --> 01:07:04,170
to universally mean the same
thing.

1077
01:07:06,900 --> 01:07:10,590
I hate veggies. I started I like
vegetable. I like the vegetables

1078
01:07:10,590 --> 01:07:12,720
but I hate the term veggies

1079
01:07:12,750 --> 01:07:15,660
green creepy. Yeah, but greens.
That's okay. Greens, they

1080
01:07:15,660 --> 01:07:19,740
get some greens. Like that
sounds like a pill. Hey, you got

1081
01:07:19,740 --> 01:07:22,410
some greens. Yeah, I got some
greens. I got some blues. I got

1082
01:07:22,410 --> 01:07:23,850
some I got some crosstalk

1083
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,070
with greens because they are
rich in B vitamins, vitamins a

1084
01:07:29,070 --> 01:07:33,510
c, K and minerals. And those are
two types of kale. Kale has the

1085
01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:35,040
most nutrition per calorie,

1086
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,440
the most nutrition per calorie,
John.

1087
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,130
That's gotta be that's what does
that even mean? I don't

1088
01:07:41,130 --> 01:07:43,200
know of any plant of any plant.

1089
01:07:45,690 --> 01:07:47,550
I find that hard to believe, by
the way.

1090
01:07:47,850 --> 01:07:50,970
So do I but it's on TED. It's an
NGO

1091
01:07:50,970 --> 01:07:54,810
brassica cabbage. It's a form of
cabbage. By the way, Ted is

1092
01:07:54,810 --> 01:07:59,370
kind of they have NGO status as
well. Somehow, you know what I

1093
01:07:59,370 --> 01:08:02,340
mean? I'm not quite sure how
they did it, because they are

1094
01:08:02,430 --> 01:08:05,520
very commercial, but they have
some kind of that's why that's

1095
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,200
why Ted NPR it's

1096
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,470
it's Bucha types of kale. Kale
has the most nutrition per

1097
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:14,640
calorie of any plant. The B
vitamins will protect your brain

1098
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,420
cells and your mitochondria.
Vitamins A and C support your

1099
01:08:18,420 --> 01:08:22,470
immune cells. Vitamin K keeps
your blood vessels and bones

1100
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:26,550
healthy and minerals are
cofactors for hundreds of

1101
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:28,080
different enzymes in your body.

1102
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:29,790
Why is she shouting?

1103
01:08:30,029 --> 01:08:33,989
Well because she's programming
you know have more kale. Now

1104
01:08:33,989 --> 01:08:42,689
when I heard that not eat more
kale. But have more kale. I felt

1105
01:08:42,689 --> 01:08:43,679
it was time for this.

1106
01:08:43,710 --> 01:08:48,960
So have more kale have more
kale, have more kale, have more

1107
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,990
kale, have more kale have more
kale,

1108
01:08:51,990 --> 01:09:02,670
you you you you have more kale,
you will obey

1109
01:09:02,730 --> 01:09:07,530
I think that's working well. Or
kale, so you

1110
01:09:07,529 --> 01:09:12,479
went to the couple's thing and
then you came back

1111
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,090
and I made this and you felt the

1112
01:09:15,420 --> 01:09:17,580
obligation to produce a clip.

1113
01:09:19,109 --> 01:09:21,119
I thought it worked. I like
this.

1114
01:09:21,779 --> 01:09:26,489
It's just okay. You guys are
amazing. Exactly.

1115
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,700
All right, well I'm going to
disprove that that thesis so

1116
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,690
of the were amazing or kale is
the most nutritious kale is

1117
01:09:36,690 --> 01:09:40,740
number one on the list. You know
I before I never really went

1118
01:09:40,740 --> 01:09:43,890
into in great depth, but this
whole thing started in England,

1119
01:09:44,340 --> 01:09:47,190
but with one public relations
company that was hired by some

1120
01:09:47,190 --> 01:09:50,610
kale growers, who are apparently
couldn't sell the stuff usually

1121
01:09:50,610 --> 01:09:54,480
because it's Gosh, awful. You
can make it edible but you have

1122
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:56,490
to actually go out of your way.
It's not like something that's

1123
01:09:56,490 --> 01:10:00,240
naturally tasty. It's you know,
if you beat it up and go Looking

1124
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,570
at bacon fat and you smell and
put a lot of nuts in it, and

1125
01:10:03,570 --> 01:10:07,110
then you really do first you got
to parboil it to beat it beat it

1126
01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:09,450
up so you can actually chew it
then you cook in bacon fat and

1127
01:10:09,450 --> 01:10:13,860
you get this bacon a greasy
gobbly goo, or fry it, deep fat

1128
01:10:13,860 --> 01:10:17,010
fry it. So it's like a crunchy
potato chip. You can choke it

1129
01:10:17,010 --> 01:10:20,970
down. So these guys in England
have done everything they can to

1130
01:10:20,970 --> 01:10:24,720
promote kale as this bogus
superfood and this the word they

1131
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,470
used, and in fact it's taken off
I mean, it says your public

1132
01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:29,640
relations does it says it

1133
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,600
right here on this kale Joy
freshly wild superfoods is the

1134
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:39,570
name of the company. We need to
be the no agenda, non

1135
01:10:39,570 --> 01:10:42,690
governmental organisation
superdense be a super food. I

1136
01:10:42,690 --> 01:10:47,430
think we can be a super food,
super food on the brain. We are

1137
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:52,650
the no agenda, non governmental
100% natural antioxidant rich

1138
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:57,360
Omega three and four vegan
gluten free, dairy free, non GMO

1139
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,780
super food podcast with no trans
fats.

1140
01:11:01,740 --> 01:11:07,560
It's a mouthful. Okay, so you
have so the kale tastes like

1141
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,230
crap is what you're trying to
say. It's really bad. It's just

1142
01:11:10,230 --> 01:11:15,210
horrible. Now, I have not had,
I've cooked at once using view I

1143
01:11:15,210 --> 01:11:17,160
have a lot of recipes I'm
accumulating and I want to

1144
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,380
remind people if they haven't
recipe for Kale, that's a little

1145
01:11:19,380 --> 01:11:23,250
offbeat to put the subject line
kale and send me an email with

1146
01:11:23,250 --> 01:11:25,890
it with the recipe. I don't want
just a copy of something from

1147
01:11:25,890 --> 01:11:29,490
food.com to divorce. You know,
Jonathan horik.org, it's not

1148
01:11:29,490 --> 01:11:33,930
that hard to find my email. And
I'll put a little no agenda book

1149
01:11:33,930 --> 01:11:36,270
together. At some point. When I
have enough of these recipes. I

1150
01:11:36,270 --> 01:11:39,270
should be able to cut and paste
something pretty quickly. But

1151
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:43,080
most of these recipes are the
same. You parboil the kale, five

1152
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,990
minutes, so you can beat it up a
little bit. Take all the stringy

1153
01:11:46,020 --> 01:11:50,670
stems and stuff out. And then
you cook it in bacon fat, you

1154
01:11:50,670 --> 01:11:53,160
know, as much and with bacon
chips in there, maybe throw in

1155
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,390
some walnuts and then and then
choke it down was still warm.

1156
01:11:59,580 --> 01:12:01,290
She said, salt and

1157
01:12:01,290 --> 01:12:06,990
pepper. That's it. Yeah. All
right. Onward. Onward. Onward.

1158
01:12:06,990 --> 01:12:10,020
I got an interesting email from
one of our producers, who was

1159
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:12,990
very familiar with the drone
campaign. This relates to the

1160
01:12:13,740 --> 01:12:19,740
$250 million WordPress blog from
the PR drive my car and Glenn

1161
01:12:19,740 --> 01:12:24,780
Greenwald, oh, Raph. And Laura
Poydras. Oh, by the way, before

1162
01:12:24,780 --> 01:12:29,910
I even mentioned that I got a
nice little note that James and

1163
01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:35,160
Patricia portress donated $20
million to the Institute for

1164
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,820
Brain Research at MIT a couple
of years back. I didn't know

1165
01:12:38,820 --> 01:12:40,680
that Laura Poitras came from
money.

1166
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,400
That seemed if you can throw
money at just a research

1167
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,520
operation to the tune of 20
million, that means you've got a

1168
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:48,270
lot of money.

1169
01:12:48,750 --> 01:12:52,380
And here's what was in and it's
family money it's from from his

1170
01:12:52,380 --> 01:12:53,430
parents. Oh, yeah. She's

1171
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:54,690
loaded. Yes. A rich girl.

1172
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:59,370
Yes, she is. But what's
interesting, after hearing Bob,

1173
01:12:59,370 --> 01:13:02,520
we talked with Pat and over a
dinner and we realised we could

1174
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,880
help make this happen fascinate
hope to the poor just has have

1175
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,580
committed $20 million support
research of major depression,

1176
01:13:08,580 --> 01:13:12,420
bipolar disorder, schizophrenia
and other psychiatric disorders

1177
01:13:12,420 --> 01:13:18,750
at the centre. And they say one
of the reasons is that we were

1178
01:13:18,750 --> 01:13:22,710
happy to do this as one of our
own daughters was diagnosed with

1179
01:13:22,710 --> 01:13:30,960
bipolar disease. Now they don't
say which one? Oh, really? Uh

1180
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:35,100
Huh. Interesting, huh? Yeah,

1181
01:13:35,130 --> 01:13:41,130
I wonder if it's Laura. It could
be could be she you know, she

1182
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,970
the way she acts? I mean, that
that would explain a lot of the

1183
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,880
word nasil she goes through when
she comes through the border the

1184
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:51,480
cross the border, you're you're
pretty on the verge of having a

1185
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:55,260
nervous breakdown. Anyway,
proceeds anyway. Yeah. And you

1186
01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:58,470
come in you're a little uptight
and say the guy says ask you a

1187
01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:59,250
question and you

1188
01:13:59,700 --> 01:14:02,640
write little well, I'm not doing
anything what what

1189
01:14:03,510 --> 01:14:09,000
are you know, she snaps at him.
If you snap at one of these guys

1190
01:14:09,150 --> 01:14:12,420
with a snide comments, something
that bipolar person might do,

1191
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,720
you know, just as a meet some
mean sort of boy you're you're

1192
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:20,040
in lockup for hours. Oh, yeah,
that's not really lock up.

1193
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,290
You're in a closet, but or a
room.

1194
01:14:22,590 --> 01:14:27,660
So anyway, this, this, this
huge, well funded venture cranks

1195
01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:31,710
out one bullcrap drone story.
Let me just read what our

1196
01:14:31,710 --> 01:14:35,370
producer Matt says, hey, you
know switching SIM cards does

1197
01:14:35,370 --> 01:14:39,540
make sense, but not with drones.
When I was in Afghanistan, high

1198
01:14:39,540 --> 01:14:42,810
level targets would give their
SAT phones to low level idiots.

1199
01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:45,180
The idiot would be given a
message to read over the phone

1200
01:14:45,180 --> 01:14:47,430
so they would be targeted and
not the high level guy. Yes.

1201
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:51,150
Seems that makes sense to me
too. By the way. Since 2004, the

1202
01:14:51,150 --> 01:14:53,730
US is using newer technology
that allows them to clone

1203
01:14:53,730 --> 01:14:56,940
captured SIM cards. Often a
group of suspects will be

1204
01:14:56,940 --> 01:14:59,970
stopped and blindfolded all the
phones will be taken SIM cards

1205
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,090
clone then returned to the
people originally would take

1206
01:15:03,090 --> 01:15:06,540
hours to triangulate a person
then it would only give you a

1207
01:15:06,540 --> 01:15:10,170
general area with the newer
stuff. The Clone sibs, it took

1208
01:15:10,170 --> 01:15:13,680
15 to 20 minutes to pinpoint a
specific building. They caught

1209
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,020
on to this and would give their
SIM cards to nobodies are

1210
01:15:16,020 --> 01:15:18,900
idiots. So they would be thrown
off this switch of SIM cards

1211
01:15:18,900 --> 01:15:21,900
only make sense when they are
boots on the ground to throw

1212
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:24,990
them off. If they capture a
nobody, then they will release

1213
01:15:24,990 --> 01:15:27,060
them switching SIM cards doesn't
make any sense or they're being

1214
01:15:27,060 --> 01:15:30,000
drone, they would just switch
the SIM cards again. Matt says

1215
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,820
this is total bull crap. And
it's also not the way it works.

1216
01:15:32,820 --> 01:15:36,000
There is real boots on the
ground for a lot of these

1217
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,840
drownings. But as I was thinking
about this and the Poydras

1218
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,240
thing, and really our
conversation, and I kind of I

1219
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:47,310
think I misunderstood you on a
Thursday show where we were just

1220
01:15:47,310 --> 01:15:50,790
in completely different vibes
about what this thing is. And I

1221
01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:53,070
think you were looking at it
from a journalistic standpoint

1222
01:15:53,070 --> 01:15:57,870
of this is what you come up
with. I think maybe that's Am I

1223
01:15:57,870 --> 01:16:01,050
categorising that right where
you just saw this blog and went

1224
01:16:01,050 --> 01:16:01,560
what,

1225
01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:06,120
but that's what I did. I don't
know what you you were, I don't

1226
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,110
know what you were talking
about?

1227
01:16:07,170 --> 01:16:11,040
Well, what I was talking about
is what what is the journalistic

1228
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,220
side, but I think a lot of
journalists, yourself included

1229
01:16:14,340 --> 01:16:17,430
as you're in a more in a milieu
of writers and journalists than

1230
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:20,520
I am. I mean, I didn't get the
invite to Edelman and told to

1231
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,760
not, you know, not write about
it. You know, I don't hang out

1232
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,360
with John Markoff. Okay, so I
think you're more in that

1233
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,560
milieu. And I think there's a
lot of like, like, like, poets,

1234
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,080
you know, you sit around
grousing about the other guy.

1235
01:16:34,830 --> 01:16:37,170
Yeah, look at these assholes.
That's what they came up with.

1236
01:16:38,010 --> 01:16:38,610
Can I be a little

1237
01:16:38,610 --> 01:16:40,980
rough? There's an element of
that element of it. Okay. What's

1238
01:16:40,980 --> 01:16:43,290
the milieu like you said, it's
exactly what it is.

1239
01:16:43,679 --> 01:16:48,209
So I'm looking at this Greenwald
thing is, it hit me the other

1240
01:16:48,209 --> 01:16:51,659
day? He is just and you

1241
01:16:51,660 --> 01:16:56,040
say, did you come up with a new
name for him? Did you say green

1242
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:56,550
ball?

1243
01:16:57,390 --> 01:17:04,980
Yes. green ball. Glenn
Greenwald? Glenn Greenwald. He

1244
01:17:04,980 --> 01:17:10,320
is just a, it's a new of a new
cog in the wheel of the military

1245
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:16,410
industrial complex. And I say
this, because if you look at the

1246
01:17:16,410 --> 01:17:20,850
intelligence community, there's
about 16 different agencies. And

1247
01:17:20,850 --> 01:17:23,460
we've identified we've probably
identified maybe 12 of them, I

1248
01:17:23,460 --> 01:17:26,280
think we can identify, but
they're right down to the

1249
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:31,050
spinia. Are our friends special?
Our friend's girlfriend, special

1250
01:17:31,050 --> 01:17:34,410
area in the State Department. I
mean, there's all this all these

1251
01:17:34,410 --> 01:17:38,490
little everybody's got an
intelligence units, right? Yep.

1252
01:17:39,150 --> 01:17:43,440
Now, if you look at it all, but
one of them are related to one

1253
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:46,350
way or the other, the Pentagon
or the Department of Defence,

1254
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:50,430
only one of them is a civilian
agency. And that's the CIA.

1255
01:17:52,590 --> 01:17:53,340
Exactly.

1256
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,790
So they so they really are
outsiders, we have no idea what

1257
01:17:56,790 --> 01:18:01,350
their budget is. They, of
course, really do run the wet

1258
01:18:01,350 --> 01:18:04,230
operations. They do kill people,
they're doing the real work. And

1259
01:18:04,230 --> 01:18:09,240
I think what happened is that we
started this military industrial

1260
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:14,730
complex, in the 60s is really
when, when we were warned about

1261
01:18:14,730 --> 01:18:20,700
it. And I believe that what
we're looking at right now is

1262
01:18:20,730 --> 01:18:25,590
including Glenn greenwall, green
ball is, is just this whole

1263
01:18:25,590 --> 01:18:31,350
thing is spinning apart, because
we're withdrawing from portions

1264
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:33,750
of the Middle East, you know, so
what do we have to do we want to

1265
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:38,460
keep it's like 60, or 70, or $80
billion a year at least, that

1266
01:18:38,460 --> 01:18:41,670
goes around with all the
contractors, right? It's not

1267
01:18:41,790 --> 01:18:44,520
Edward Snowden did not work for
the NSA, he worked for Booz

1268
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:48,420
Allen Hamilton. Now these and
those guys have six, seven $8

1269
01:18:48,420 --> 01:18:53,070
billion worth of contract by
themselves. So this is a huge

1270
01:18:53,070 --> 01:18:55,650
thing that has to keep going.
And the only way to keep this

1271
01:18:55,650 --> 01:18:57,810
going. Of course, we point this
out all the time on the show,

1272
01:18:58,020 --> 01:19:01,350
the only way to keep this going
is to keep people afraid of now

1273
01:19:01,350 --> 01:19:04,800
the terror is coming to the
homeland. He'll be very worried

1274
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:09,330
about about all of this. And I
found some numbers and I found

1275
01:19:09,330 --> 01:19:11,070
it in go ahead.

1276
01:19:11,309 --> 01:19:14,429
Before you get those numbers. I
want to throw something in and

1277
01:19:14,429 --> 01:19:19,079
what you just said, just for the
listeners as an aside to people

1278
01:19:19,079 --> 01:19:22,439
who promote this idea that you
should just be sitting in your

1279
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,759
house watching television,
afraid of your own shadow, need

1280
01:19:26,759 --> 01:19:31,319
to be you have when you see
somebody doing that to you. And

1281
01:19:31,319 --> 01:19:33,599
if they're a politician or
anything else, you should either

1282
01:19:33,599 --> 01:19:36,269
call them on it or vote them out
of office. These people are evil

1283
01:19:36,329 --> 01:19:36,959
Anyway, go on.

1284
01:19:37,710 --> 01:19:41,670
Well, I did something that we we
tend to do from time to time.

1285
01:19:42,150 --> 01:19:44,730
And in fact that did that in the
start of the show. But I went

1286
01:19:44,730 --> 01:19:48,510
back and I listened to the
relevant portion of Eisenhower's

1287
01:19:48,510 --> 01:19:53,010
farewell farewell speech where
he specifically talks about the

1288
01:19:53,010 --> 01:19:57,420
military industrial complex and
warns us for it. And there were

1289
01:19:57,420 --> 01:20:00,750
a couple things and it's only a
minute and 50 cents. As you

1290
01:20:00,750 --> 01:20:03,690
know, I've cut down all the bits
and pieces. And this is kind of

1291
01:20:03,690 --> 01:20:05,940
nice. It's a dramatised version,
John's little bit of music in

1292
01:20:05,940 --> 01:20:09,750
there. I think we should listen
again, to what he actually told

1293
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:13,020
us and what he actually said and
look at some of the numbers that

1294
01:20:13,020 --> 01:20:15,750
he's talking about in 1961.

1295
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,530
Ladies and gentlemen, the
President of the United States.

1296
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:23,880
Good evening, my fellow
Americans, we now stand 10 years

1297
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:28,380
past the midpoint of a century,
that is witness for major wars

1298
01:20:28,410 --> 01:20:29,700
among great nations.

1299
01:20:32,220 --> 01:20:37,920
I love the little piano but it
makes it makes it more more

1300
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:38,610
dramatic.

1301
01:20:39,660 --> 01:20:41,040
I'll see what comes out

1302
01:20:41,070 --> 01:20:44,880
the latest of our world
conflicts. The United States had

1303
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:50,400
no armaments industry, American
makers of Ploughshares could

1304
01:20:51,060 --> 01:20:54,540
with time and as required make
swords as well.

1305
01:20:54,810 --> 01:20:58,320
Now I had to look this up, but I
hadn't had to like what the heck

1306
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:02,760
is the President talking about?
I Ploughshares and swords.

1307
01:21:04,500 --> 01:21:09,780
Swords to Ploughshares, is a
term used apparently, before I

1308
01:21:09,780 --> 01:21:13,920
was born, is the concept in
which military weapons or

1309
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,940
technologies are converted to
peaceful civilian applications?

1310
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,910
And what Eisenhower says in this
speech and this is there was a

1311
01:21:20,910 --> 01:21:24,060
televised speech and he's he's
saying be careful people, the

1312
01:21:24,060 --> 01:21:28,200
people the the American
Ploughshares. So this is the our

1313
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:33,270
civilian industry can actually
reverse the process and start to

1314
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:37,440
make swords, which of course is
exactly what happened. All of

1315
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:40,890
our you know, our aircraft, our
vehicle industry, our weapons

1316
01:21:40,890 --> 01:21:44,820
industry, we're just making like
little shot guns and and cars to

1317
01:21:44,820 --> 01:21:49,290
tootle around in and planes to
fly and bombs and fighters and

1318
01:21:49,290 --> 01:21:53,460
tanks. So yes, he was correct in
his assumption. And before this,

1319
01:21:53,460 --> 01:21:55,830
he said we had never had this in
the United States.

1320
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,240
But we can no longer risky
emergency improvisation of

1321
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,830
National Defence. We have been
compelled to create a permanent

1322
01:22:04,860 --> 01:22:09,390
armaments industry of vast
proportions. Added do this,

1323
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:14,100
three and a half million men and
women are directly engaged in

1324
01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:16,200
the defence establishment. All
right.

1325
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:24,780
Three and a half million men and
women in 1961. I got the 1960

1326
01:22:24,780 --> 01:22:32,190
census at that time, there were
179,323,175 people in America,

1327
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,130
right, roughly half the
population we have today.

1328
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,910
So if I don't know if it's fair
to do this, but can we then say

1329
01:22:38,910 --> 01:22:41,790
that by today's numbers that
will be 7 million people in

1330
01:22:41,790 --> 01:22:45,360
total? Yeah, I think that would
be fair. And I I would wager

1331
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,190
it's a lot higher than that
right now.

1332
01:22:47,220 --> 01:22:48,510
Oh, I thought you had the
number.

1333
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:50,700
We don't have that number

1334
01:22:51,180 --> 01:22:54,660
a bitches more? Or what it would
be but it's not seven.

1335
01:22:55,170 --> 01:22:59,010
But why don't you look that up?
Now this way of looking that up?

1336
01:22:59,100 --> 01:23:00,720
Thank you. Yes, I can let me

1337
01:23:01,380 --> 01:23:04,380
try it. You try to give it a
shot. But hold on. I'm gonna

1338
01:23:04,380 --> 01:23:06,780
rewind just a little bit. He
said some more interesting stuff

1339
01:23:06,780 --> 01:23:07,830
here. Do this

1340
01:23:07,860 --> 01:23:11,550
keep going. Three and a half
million men and women are

1341
01:23:11,550 --> 01:23:15,360
directly engaged in the defence
establishment. Now this

1342
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,450
conjunction of an immense
military establishment and a

1343
01:23:18,450 --> 01:23:23,970
large arms industry is new in
the American experience. That

1344
01:23:23,970 --> 01:23:29,250
total influence, economic,
political, even spiritual, is

1345
01:23:29,250 --> 01:23:33,000
felt in every city, every state
house every office of the

1346
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:37,020
federal government, we recognise
the imperative need for this

1347
01:23:37,020 --> 01:23:41,970
development. Yet we must not
fail to comprehend its grave

1348
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,860
implications. Our toil,
resources and livelihood are all

1349
01:23:46,860 --> 01:23:52,200
involved. So is the very
structure of our society and the

1350
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:56,430
council's of government, we must
guard against the acquisition of

1351
01:23:56,430 --> 01:24:00,300
unwarranted influence, whether
sought or unsought, by the

1352
01:24:00,300 --> 01:24:05,310
military industrial complex. The
potential for the disastrous

1353
01:24:05,310 --> 01:24:10,890
rise of misplaced power exists
and will persist. We must never

1354
01:24:10,890 --> 01:24:13,410
let the weight of this
combination endanger our

1355
01:24:13,410 --> 01:24:16,950
liberties or democratic
processes. We should take

1356
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:21,060
nothing for granted. Only an
alert and knowledgeable

1357
01:24:21,060 --> 01:24:26,280
citizenry can compel the proper
meshing of the huge industrial

1358
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,730
and military machinery of
defence with our peaceful

1359
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:34,440
methods and goals so that
security and liberty may prosper

1360
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:34,920
together.

1361
01:24:35,070 --> 01:24:38,370
Now, I didn't know that he had
said so that security and

1362
01:24:38,370 --> 01:24:41,700
liberty may prosper together.
Because that is pretty much the

1363
01:24:41,700 --> 01:24:45,030
only piece from this entire
speech which is left over and is

1364
01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:48,450
continuously abused by
politicians saying we need to

1365
01:24:48,450 --> 01:24:52,440
find the balance between
security and liberty which of

1366
01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:57,150
course the President recently
took to a new extreme by saying

1367
01:24:58,020 --> 01:25:02,880
security and your freedom that
is this you say your, your

1368
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,670
freedom or your liberty.
Liberty, not even liberty.

1369
01:25:05,850 --> 01:25:12,630
Liberty, your liberty. Liberty.
Liberty. Yeah. But but the we

1370
01:25:12,630 --> 01:25:16,290
are there, this has now happened
and I think that it's good to

1371
01:25:16,290 --> 01:25:21,030
revisit from time to time. This
is now what is it 40 years

1372
01:25:21,030 --> 01:25:24,120
later? What are we 50 years
later? Where are we? Yeah, 50

1373
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:25,650
years later here we are.

1374
01:25:26,790 --> 01:25:29,520
And it's gotten the number
appears to be about the

1375
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,970
extrapolation was 7,000,006

1376
01:25:32,970 --> 01:25:36,330
Actually, that can't be that
makes no sense. We have 2

1377
01:25:36,330 --> 01:25:41,490
million people with classified
status alone. This is all

1378
01:25:41,550 --> 01:25:45,750
specifically the defence
anything hooked directly to the

1379
01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:49,800
defence department and the Ennis
industries must be a lot more

1380
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:54,090
robots Well, I think there's a
they're taking a lot more money

1381
01:25:54,090 --> 01:25:59,430
at the top I think I don't know
what after the War World War Two

1382
01:25:59,430 --> 01:26:01,860
I think they're pretty much
fully staffed i don't i don't

1383
01:26:01,860 --> 01:26:03,690
know I'm just telling you this
what I only number I can come up

1384
01:26:03,690 --> 01:26:06,360
with like I can keep digging I'm
not gonna do it for today. No,

1385
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,840
no sir. I have a couple of
things I want you to listen to

1386
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:16,800
something want you to listen to
something and tell me what you

1387
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,800
hear in this within this clip
it's it's the clip is called

1388
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:24,120
listen carefully. This is this
somebody describing the skeleton

1389
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:25,560
run on the Olympics

1390
01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:28,980
section the next page

1391
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:41,760
I don't think I could hear what
your

1392
01:26:43,050 --> 01:26:46,740
I didn't hear any of this very
very difficult. I clipped it

1393
01:26:46,740 --> 01:26:51,030
down very difficult to hear.
Yeah, it's hard to hear but I'm

1394
01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:54,360
telling you you did something in
here and now play How did this

1395
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,940
even happen flub and see if this
is the clip I'd have liked

1396
01:26:56,940 --> 01:26:59,910
unfortunately Miss label this
one which is the just the part

1397
01:26:59,910 --> 01:27:03,060
that I'm trying to get you to
listen to can go in Toronto No

1398
01:27:03,060 --> 01:27:05,460
no, no strike try weird flub.

1399
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:10,740
Taxi drivers in France may have
won their first

1400
01:27:10,740 --> 01:27:12,150
is not it either. Dammit.

1401
01:27:14,430 --> 01:27:19,440
I have something do How about
zoom 0037 No, that can't be it

1402
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:19,800
either.

1403
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,010
Because zoom I think is the
social media report about the

1404
01:27:23,010 --> 01:27:27,570
Olympics. So here it is
selection normalised and and

1405
01:27:27,570 --> 01:27:29,880
boosted This is the same thing.
I'm trying to get you to listen

1406
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:30,810
to off this clip.

1407
01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:34,320
It's looking good.

1408
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,860
You don't hear him say fucking
No.

1409
01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:41,130
You're looking good.

1410
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,710
We have a really this is a
family and everybody hears

1411
01:27:49,890 --> 01:27:56,370
I can't hear that. I mean,
listen again. You think? Let's

1412
01:27:56,370 --> 01:28:05,820
listen. Let's listen one more
time. John, John. I'm here

1413
01:28:14,580 --> 01:28:15,930
to show me your tips. Yeah, I

1414
01:28:15,930 --> 01:28:21,600
heard it. Okay, very funny. I'm
watching the Olympics.

1415
01:28:21,630 --> 01:28:23,820
I never would have played that.
Let's you brought this clip.

1416
01:28:25,170 --> 01:28:28,590
i Yeah, very fancy. Good. I have
tried to dig up some stuff like

1417
01:28:28,590 --> 01:28:32,610
that on you. So let's go with
here's what here's why the

1418
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:37,320
Olympics boiled down play. Zoom
37

1419
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,890
Hey, Meredith. You know those
inappropriate selfies you've

1420
01:28:40,890 --> 01:28:43,320
been sending me lately? We're
talking about something

1421
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,290
different altogether here this
selfie is the thing that the

1422
01:28:46,290 --> 01:28:49,980
Winter Games The Sochi selfie.
Yes, it has its own name popping

1423
01:28:49,980 --> 01:28:54,120
up all over social media. Here a
couple of them to know each and

1424
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,270
athletes. Can you use their
heads and put them together to

1425
01:28:57,270 --> 01:29:00,540
wish a happy Valentine's Day?
How about American slopestyle

1426
01:29:00,540 --> 01:29:04,410
skier Nick gapper making swift
work of his bronze medal fame,

1427
01:29:04,590 --> 01:29:09,090
tweeting a Valentine to Yes.
Taylor Swift. On Instagram Team

1428
01:29:09,090 --> 01:29:12,270
USA writer Jamie Anderson won
gold this week and slopestyle

1429
01:29:12,270 --> 01:29:15,630
but first she tore up a little
fresh powder with some of her

1430
01:29:15,630 --> 01:29:20,370
friends and American alpine
skier. Julia min Cousteau lit up

1431
01:29:20,370 --> 01:29:22,800
Instagram with this cool kind of
artist. Why are

1432
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,210
you hurting me with this?

1433
01:29:24,900 --> 01:29:26,880
Yes, indeed, the twin flame

1434
01:29:26,910 --> 01:29:30,840
on the opening ceremony. A look
at the metal count shows host

1435
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,900
nation Russia is in the lead
with the United States and the

1436
01:29:33,900 --> 01:29:38,070
Netherlands. Not far behind
Germany and Norway also in the

1437
01:29:38,070 --> 01:29:41,820
mix. But you ask who's winning
the social conversation around

1438
01:29:41,820 --> 01:29:42,210
these wins?

1439
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:43,200
I'm asking

1440
01:29:43,830 --> 01:29:45,840
the social conversation.

1441
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,970
But wait, but wait, Adam, you're
asking who's winning the social?

1442
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,570
I'm not asking this. Why does
this guy assume that I give a

1443
01:29:54,570 --> 01:29:54,930
crap.

1444
01:29:55,530 --> 01:29:58,440
I'm very interested in who's
winning the social conversation

1445
01:29:58,620 --> 01:29:59,970
as a digital prophet.

1446
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,630
In the mix button us who's
winning the social conversation

1447
01:30:03,630 --> 01:30:03,840
now?

1448
01:30:03,870 --> 01:30:08,220
No, this is I know who's asking
this, the advertisers. They're

1449
01:30:08,220 --> 01:30:10,980
saying, Hey, who's winning the
social conversation? Because I

1450
01:30:10,980 --> 01:30:13,770
want to advertise there. This
guy's talking to the advertisers

1451
01:30:13,770 --> 01:30:14,100
that's

1452
01:30:14,580 --> 01:30:17,730
winning the social conversation
around these Winter Games. Well,

1453
01:30:17,940 --> 01:30:20,970
Facebook tells us the US is
clearly in the league with posts

1454
01:30:20,970 --> 01:30:24,720
likes and updates. Topic number
one is figure skating. The

1455
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,820
United States though, if you
look, the map does have some

1456
01:30:26,820 --> 01:30:30,150
pretty decent competition. from
Great Britain and from Canada.

1457
01:30:30,150 --> 01:30:34,290
Great Britain's topic of choice
is snowboarding. But the big

1458
01:30:34,290 --> 01:30:38,250
surprise as you look here is
that the Philippines ranks sixth

1459
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:41,700
in the Olympic Facebook
conversation that Michael

1460
01:30:41,700 --> 01:30:45,390
Martinez is the country's first
ever winter Olympian, and no

1461
01:30:45,390 --> 01:30:48,480
surprise, it's his sport. That
is Topic number one.

1462
01:30:49,230 --> 01:30:52,260
Really, this was completely
unnecessary.

1463
01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:57,480
This is on on NBC there. This is
a major cancer. This is dumb.

1464
01:30:58,260 --> 01:31:01,020
Well placed the part two of it
to see how dumb it really is.

1465
01:31:01,710 --> 01:31:04,620
Well, what did How do you Oh,
there's a there's a second part

1466
01:31:05,820 --> 01:31:08,910
of competent report edition and
billions of kilobytes of online

1467
01:31:08,910 --> 01:31:10,950
chatter. We were wondering who
billions

1468
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:15,390
of kilobytes of online chatter
Hold on a second. I gotta write

1469
01:31:15,390 --> 01:31:18,810
that down. I got billions of
kilobytes of online chatter for

1470
01:31:18,810 --> 01:31:20,220
you babe. Right here. My pants
gained

1471
01:31:20,220 --> 01:31:23,010
the most traction on the web.
Well, Yahoo looked at the

1472
01:31:23,010 --> 01:31:25,620
athletes who inspired the
biggest overnight spike in

1473
01:31:25,620 --> 01:31:29,400
searches. So who's number one?
Is it Shawn white? Not him

1474
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,880
believe it or not Gracie gold?
No. Could be her next week. But

1475
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:37,110
right now it's sage Katzenberg,
his name saw the biggest spike

1476
01:31:37,110 --> 01:31:39,960
in Yahoo searches. He's gone
from the virtual unknown now to

1477
01:31:40,170 --> 01:31:43,440
do they have graphics and charts
to go with this and like Arrow

1478
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:43,740
Yeah.

1479
01:31:46,350 --> 01:31:48,870
Oh, yeah, this is loaded to the
gills with graphics.

1480
01:31:50,490 --> 01:31:53,790
Maps, Katzenberg brought his
followers along for the ride,

1481
01:31:53,970 --> 01:31:56,880
tweeting throughout his winning
day and afterward, getting love

1482
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,390
from all over the world,
including this tweet from Kobe

1483
01:32:00,420 --> 01:32:04,050
Bryant. Wow. Let's leave it
tonight with one last word from

1484
01:32:04,050 --> 01:32:07,290
the opening ceremony after the
cauldron was left the First Lady

1485
01:32:07,290 --> 01:32:10,140
of the United States Michelle
Obama summed it all up pretty

1486
01:32:10,140 --> 01:32:13,470
nicely in a tweet writing.
Thanks to US Olympic team for

1487
01:32:13,470 --> 01:32:18,030
inspiring me and our nation's
kids. Meredith, brought to you

1488
01:32:18,030 --> 01:32:18,660
by Visa.

1489
01:32:19,770 --> 01:32:21,360
Was that a piece of crap?

1490
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:27,570
It's i I told you I can't watch
it anymore. It's so Facebook

1491
01:32:27,570 --> 01:32:31,530
and Twitter plugs up the butt.
And and when the Twitter is

1492
01:32:31,530 --> 01:32:33,960
really got to be shut down.

1493
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,960
At the Twitter, he tweeted this.
He tweeted that.

1494
01:32:37,500 --> 01:32:40,140
He tweeted congratulations. Oh,
he tweeted you're ugly?

1495
01:32:40,230 --> 01:32:42,690
No, I think no, that's I think
that's all fine. I think that's

1496
01:32:42,690 --> 01:32:47,370
really good. That's actually the
tweeter thing. I'm okay with.

1497
01:32:48,030 --> 01:32:50,970
I'm not no I'm okay with that.
Because it's nice. I

1498
01:32:50,970 --> 01:32:51,720
know you're you're just

1499
01:32:52,170 --> 01:32:55,260
Yeah, but it's different. It's a
different thing. Who cares where

1500
01:32:55,260 --> 01:32:56,610
the I'm let

1501
01:32:56,610 --> 01:32:59,040
me do one little last little
thing here. Just to get you back

1502
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:03,450
on track. Did you've already
blonde got together? In

1503
01:33:03,450 --> 01:33:08,820
Washington, right? Yeah. So I
have two very short clips. One

1504
01:33:08,820 --> 01:33:13,260
is what Obama said to old
blonde, and then one that Holon

1505
01:33:13,260 --> 01:33:17,310
said to Obama, and I think the
contrast is, let's use the word

1506
01:33:17,310 --> 01:33:17,790
telling.

1507
01:33:17,820 --> 01:33:21,720
Okay, so we'll use Obama to
Ilana first. Yeah, play that.

1508
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:24,000
And then the break. Okay. And
then we'll go to the next one.

1509
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:25,110
All right, here we go. Here we
go ending

1510
01:33:25,110 --> 01:33:29,100
together. And using our freedom
to improve the lives of not only

1511
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:32,250
our citizens, but people around
the world is what makes France

1512
01:33:32,250 --> 01:33:35,280
not only America's oldest ally,
but also one of our closest

1513
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:35,850
allies. Wait

1514
01:33:35,850 --> 01:33:38,460
a minute. I've heard that line
before.

1515
01:33:39,090 --> 01:33:43,290
Yeah, was what he says. All
right. So now here's what Ilana

1516
01:33:43,290 --> 01:33:46,560
said to him, France and the
United States are two countries.

1517
01:33:51,060 --> 01:33:54,210
That's right. And one of them
speaks French.

1518
01:33:56,340 --> 01:33:58,590
He says, what is his line? Was
there two countries?

1519
01:33:58,890 --> 01:34:03,630
Well, this all this uh, this
visit, of course, comes amidst a

1520
01:34:03,630 --> 01:34:07,980
lot of stuff happening in
Africa. And a lot of it in the

1521
01:34:07,980 --> 01:34:12,720
French portion of the African
empire. What used to be known as

1522
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,780
the African empires, and I've
done my diligence I've really

1523
01:34:15,780 --> 01:34:19,170
tried to look into as much as
possible, starting with the

1524
01:34:19,170 --> 01:34:23,010
drone base that we really knew
nothing about in Niger or Niger

1525
01:34:23,010 --> 01:34:30,390
or making plans for Niger. And I
went back and I found a clip

1526
01:34:30,810 --> 01:34:35,160
from January of last year, when
the news about the so called

1527
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,190
drone base, which now is
apparently huge, and in full

1528
01:34:38,190 --> 01:34:41,910
operation. This is how the shill
woman from the Department of

1529
01:34:41,910 --> 01:34:45,930
Defence answered the question
about rumours in the press of

1530
01:34:45,930 --> 01:34:47,610
the drone base in Niger air

1531
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:55,920
this Dory. It has been widely
reported that the US is eager to

1532
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:00,330
build a drone base in Nigeria to
the extent you can tell Was it

1533
01:35:00,330 --> 01:35:05,310
an open hearing? Has that base
begun construction or even been

1534
01:35:05,310 --> 01:35:09,540
completed? Are drones being
launched from that base? And how

1535
01:35:09,540 --> 01:35:11,700
many US personnel are there?

1536
01:35:13,500 --> 01:35:16,320
We know these questions are
scripted, I think he did a

1537
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,240
little too easy on the read
there.

1538
01:35:18,450 --> 01:35:23,550
To start, we do not have a drone
base in Niger. So hopefully that

1539
01:35:23,550 --> 01:35:28,140
is helpful. What I can say is
that commensurate with the

1540
01:35:28,170 --> 01:35:31,980
growing threat in the region,
Africa Command as well as the

1541
01:35:31,980 --> 01:35:35,040
intelligence community is very
interested in increasing

1542
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:38,820
resources that are focusing on
the region to improve our

1543
01:35:38,940 --> 01:35:41,580
understanding of what is
happening there. And we are

1544
01:35:41,580 --> 01:35:46,980
seeing a growth in intelligence
resources of all kinds.

1545
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,360
This is how you skirt around the
question. There's a growth in

1546
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:54,480
intelligence resources of all
kinds. Okay,

1547
01:35:54,780 --> 01:35:59,400
to include ISR. What you're
referring to, in part, I

1548
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,090
believe, is news that stemmed
from the recent conclusion of a

1549
01:36:03,090 --> 01:36:06,240
status of forces agreement with
the government of New shear.

1550
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,980
This is the type of foundational
agreement that we pursue in many

1551
01:36:10,980 --> 01:36:15,570
different countries in Africa
that have regular relationships

1552
01:36:15,570 --> 01:36:19,080
with Africa Command for purposes
of exercises and other

1553
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:23,700
activities. So that that was
what made it into the news and

1554
01:36:23,700 --> 01:36:26,610
then an extract extrapolation
about a drone base from there,

1555
01:36:26,610 --> 01:36:27,630
but we are certainly

1556
01:36:27,660 --> 01:36:31,770
news report, that was an
exaggeration. does happen

1557
01:36:31,770 --> 01:36:32,310
unusual?

1558
01:36:32,370 --> 01:36:35,190
Yeah. Okay, so a year later, of
course, we know that it's true.

1559
01:36:35,580 --> 01:36:37,200
And that both of you are just
full of

1560
01:36:37,260 --> 01:36:41,220
crap. Can you? Can you remember,
this is one of the clips I had

1561
01:36:41,220 --> 01:36:45,210
on the last show, I believe
about the drought that was at

1562
01:36:45,210 --> 01:36:45,930
the show before

1563
01:36:46,019 --> 01:36:48,929
the last show. That's why I went
in looking for information right

1564
01:36:48,929 --> 01:36:49,169
now. I

1565
01:36:49,170 --> 01:36:52,050
understand. Yeah. What do you
remember which clip? It was?

1566
01:36:52,830 --> 01:36:56,910
Um, yeah, I can probably find it
hold on a second.

1567
01:36:58,170 --> 01:37:01,680
Because I guess I I was as
shocked as you are, that we have

1568
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:06,540
a base there and is based on
this clip? Well, so I figured

1569
01:37:06,540 --> 01:37:09,360
out, it was on event cat, I'm
just trying to say what the

1570
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,630
source of this information was.
Because now that it points out

1571
01:37:12,630 --> 01:37:15,270
an obvious lie, you know, was
this with a drone base

1572
01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:16,500
overnight? Or is this one

1573
01:37:16,950 --> 01:37:19,920
with a French and African troops
do have a mandate from the

1574
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:23,070
United Nations to use force if
there's a direct threat to the

1575
01:37:23,070 --> 01:37:26,400
civilian population? So if, for
example, a Muslim is being

1576
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:27,420
lynched by and

1577
01:37:27,660 --> 01:37:30,480
I don't think it's that one USA
in Africa with French maybe it's

1578
01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:32,580
that one, let me slit has
several military

1579
01:37:32,610 --> 01:37:36,000
bases. So looking at the map,
then just reminders where they

1580
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,000
propagate so far, and where they
may cooperate in the future?

1581
01:37:39,450 --> 01:37:40,770
Will they cooperate a lot

1582
01:37:40,830 --> 01:37:45,840
in Mali? Because the US had just
set up a drone base in

1583
01:37:45,870 --> 01:37:46,860
neighbouring Asia.

1584
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:51,240
There you go. So that's, that's
where it came from. And I

1585
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:53,670
understand why it's in Asia,
because we that's right in the

1586
01:37:53,670 --> 01:37:56,460
middle of Mali is this clip said
to the north, that's where we

1587
01:37:56,460 --> 01:38:02,160
have the ever so dangerous al
Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

1588
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:06,870
And that Yeah, yeah, this is
I've been to the south we have

1589
01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:13,020
Nigeria, which of course is Boko
Haram. But in both cases, it's

1590
01:38:13,020 --> 01:38:17,700
the Boko Haram was not there in
Nigeria, Boko Haram Kenya, they

1591
01:38:17,700 --> 01:38:20,940
may be there too, but I think
their base is in or the book,

1592
01:38:20,970 --> 01:38:22,740
all of this is probably made up.

1593
01:38:23,250 --> 01:38:25,470
I mean, who knows? Okay, we can
go with that right.

1594
01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:28,740
Now. Apparently, we also have a
drone base in Ethiopia, because

1595
01:38:28,740 --> 01:38:31,110
now I just I started really
looking into it, like where are

1596
01:38:31,110 --> 01:38:33,840
we in Africa? So we have
Ethiopia, we know we have

1597
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:41,820
Djibouti Africa which is
mentioned in my clip is still in

1598
01:38:41,820 --> 01:38:47,820
Germany. And this like this is
what's very strange that we have

1599
01:38:47,850 --> 01:38:51,060
it because you think they could
put it in Libya or any of these

1600
01:38:51,060 --> 01:38:55,080
other places that we kind of own
yes in Germany, right. But it's

1601
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:59,400
still in Germany. But we have
the eyes in the air we have the

1602
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,790
eyes in the air and and of
course the only two countries

1603
01:39:02,790 --> 01:39:05,700
that should that we need to
really be looking at although it

1604
01:39:05,700 --> 01:39:08,910
turns out that may not be true.
Is the two on the west Clarke

1605
01:39:08,910 --> 01:39:13,410
seven lists which would be I
think, Sudan and Somalia. These

1606
01:39:13,410 --> 01:39:17,850
are really on our on our new
world order list. But somehow

1607
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:23,160
and and obviously it's BP and
total and elf is it elf oil elf

1608
01:39:23,190 --> 01:39:26,940
elf is that the other French
elfia The French one Yeah. So so

1609
01:39:26,970 --> 01:39:30,030
if you really look at it, all
these countries, you know, they

1610
01:39:30,030 --> 01:39:34,800
were all run by up until now
like late 60s or 70s, by Britain

1611
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,740
and France, and we really had
didn't have a lot to do in

1612
01:39:37,740 --> 01:39:41,850
there. And and I'm starting to
see that not only are we

1613
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,790
extracting the minerals of
course, we're we're extracting

1614
01:39:44,790 --> 01:39:48,240
Chinese first, like, Oh, hello,
Chinese. Thank you for building

1615
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:52,080
the road and the infrastructure
get out. Then we're taking over

1616
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,710
that. But there's also and this
is what I think the French and

1617
01:39:55,710 --> 01:39:59,340
the British are seeing, because
these countries are growing

1618
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,410
There is there's a huge market
now in selling gasoline to

1619
01:40:04,440 --> 01:40:08,160
African countries that people
are getting cars and they you

1620
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,980
know the infrastructure is
really building there it's no

1621
01:40:10,980 --> 01:40:15,150
longer just a jungle bunnies
running around chucking Spears

1622
01:40:15,150 --> 01:40:18,780
you know, there's these are real
countries with real economies

1623
01:40:18,780 --> 01:40:23,010
that are going to make a big
difference. And I think this is

1624
01:40:23,010 --> 01:40:25,800
everything is shifting over
there not just for extracting

1625
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:29,340
but for selling and building and
buying and, and doing business.

1626
01:40:30,090 --> 01:40:32,880
You're gonna get letters for
that. For what spear chucking

1627
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:37,650
sand bunny jungle bunnies? Yeah,
I'm making a point.

1628
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,010
I know that you are. But I but
do listeners of the show don't

1629
01:40:41,010 --> 01:40:44,580
understand how you make your
points? Well, then they should I

1630
01:40:44,580 --> 01:40:47,250
think this is disgusting.
They're gonna gripe they're

1631
01:40:47,250 --> 01:40:49,410
gonna gripe I'm just telling you
in advance. I don't know, I

1632
01:40:49,410 --> 01:40:50,670
don't want to hear you grousing
about it.

1633
01:40:50,700 --> 01:40:54,600
Oh, that's fine. People don't
understand. That's fine. And you

1634
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:58,710
can kind of apply this to what's
happening in the Middle East. If

1635
01:40:58,710 --> 01:40:59,070
you live in

1636
01:40:59,070 --> 01:41:01,440
LA, hold on a second, let me
help you here. So you don't get

1637
01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:08,670
these letters. What Adam just
did was portray a stereotype of

1638
01:41:08,670 --> 01:41:14,790
the African which is used as a
model for the elites in so far

1639
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:18,120
as their their pre dis
predisposed definition of the

1640
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:23,070
situation. Yes. And that was
would be exactly how they think.

1641
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:27,570
And that's what he was doing was
essentially reflecting that when

1642
01:41:27,570 --> 01:41:31,710
he uses this, this this usage.
It's I didn't bother me, but I

1643
01:41:31,710 --> 01:41:34,650
know that let's some people
would be upset already on your

1644
01:41:34,650 --> 01:41:35,070
case.

1645
01:41:35,730 --> 01:41:38,580
It's fine. Everyone. Everybody
can be on my case. That's fine.

1646
01:41:39,450 --> 01:41:42,390
But I'm just saying I just
wanted to because I know what

1647
01:41:42,390 --> 01:41:47,550
you're doing. And in the way you
do it is it seems it seems it's

1648
01:41:47,550 --> 01:41:50,130
very elegant, actually. So
continue.

1649
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:55,200
Thank you. I am convinced that a
large portion certainly of the

1650
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:59,460
American public, but probably
the European public as well,

1651
01:41:59,940 --> 01:42:03,480
when they heard about the
shootings in the shopping mall

1652
01:42:03,480 --> 01:42:08,430
in Kenya. I have a feeling a lot
of them went what? They got

1653
01:42:08,430 --> 01:42:12,600
shopping malls in Kenya. Right
It's a

1654
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:14,400
modern shop. Yeah, it's very
modern.

1655
01:42:15,420 --> 01:42:17,550
It's like any crappy shopping
mall anywhere.

1656
01:42:17,580 --> 01:42:20,160
Exactly. They got popcorn and
got a movie theatre. They got

1657
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:24,060
the games out from the movie
theatre, Cineplex, Cineplex.

1658
01:42:24,060 --> 01:42:29,100
Thank you, they've got the
what's the what's the, the t

1659
01:42:29,100 --> 01:42:31,680
shirt shop where you buy your
skateboard hipster gear

1660
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:35,340
t shirt shop, t shirt shops.
It's,

1661
01:42:35,370 --> 01:42:38,460
well let me do a site about
this. Let me do it in his site

1662
01:42:38,460 --> 01:42:44,010
about this. For example, in
Asia, there's different kinds of

1663
01:42:44,010 --> 01:42:47,130
shopping malls, and I'm one of
those guys when I travel, I

1664
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:50,070
don't sit around the hotel, I
get somebody to take me

1665
01:42:50,070 --> 01:42:56,220
shopping. And your staff is
usually not a staff. Usually

1666
01:42:56,220 --> 01:42:58,770
somebody's holding me over there
for some reason. And I kind of

1667
01:42:58,770 --> 01:43:03,180
demand an escort to take me some
places unless it's like Korea,

1668
01:43:03,180 --> 01:43:05,670
which I know the town enough, I
can just draw a guy and get on a

1669
01:43:05,670 --> 01:43:09,690
bus and I've done that and just
bus around. But you there are

1670
01:43:09,690 --> 01:43:13,050
shopping malls that make many of
our shopping malls very sick by

1671
01:43:13,050 --> 01:43:15,180
comparison. And some of them are
very weird though. There's a

1672
01:43:15,180 --> 01:43:18,030
shopping mall. And I believe
this is in one, I think this is

1673
01:43:18,030 --> 01:43:22,140
an I'm trying to think he had to
Jakarta or someplace like that

1674
01:43:22,140 --> 01:43:24,870
is it but the outside of the
mall is like they're different.

1675
01:43:24,870 --> 01:43:27,660
They're like a big just like the
Merchandise Mart in Chicago.

1676
01:43:27,810 --> 01:43:31,770
It's a big building, as opposed
to a strip mall. And the

1677
01:43:31,770 --> 01:43:35,220
building has maybe eight floors
of shopping. And it's more

1678
01:43:35,220 --> 01:43:37,800
vertical than it is horizontal
because of the space

1679
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,440
limitations. So the shopping
mall takes on a slightly

1680
01:43:40,440 --> 01:43:42,990
different quality, but it's
still a shopping mall. And they

1681
01:43:42,990 --> 01:43:46,170
have the same stuff. They have
the same perfumes they usually

1682
01:43:46,170 --> 01:43:49,170
have a better selection of Asian
electronics and any place you've

1683
01:43:49,170 --> 01:43:53,370
ever seen. And cameras, etc. in
different colours you've never

1684
01:43:53,370 --> 01:43:56,520
seen. And they're pretty, pretty
moderate. It's just like people

1685
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,280
shouldn't be thinking like that,
that there's no shopping malls

1686
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:01,500
in Nairobi. Or,

1687
01:44:02,460 --> 01:44:06,060
or any of these countries
really, that that that of course

1688
01:44:06,060 --> 01:44:08,550
is the point that I'm making.
It's the same point that I make

1689
01:44:08,850 --> 01:44:13,020
that people somehow then this is
exactly the same. Russia is just

1690
01:44:13,020 --> 01:44:17,970
filled with a bunch of hairy fat
women with drunken vodka

1691
01:44:17,970 --> 01:44:23,310
slurping dudes with bear hats on
who hate gays. Yeah, well,

1692
01:44:23,310 --> 01:44:25,770
besides that, though, there's a
lot of pleasant Russians.

1693
01:44:26,820 --> 01:44:27,360
Actually.

1694
01:44:28,830 --> 01:44:33,540
I'll give you a little in the
morning. Have a report came out

1695
01:44:33,540 --> 01:44:36,720
whereas it here I have it here.
Americans Okay, who did this

1696
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:41,190
report? Washington DC. I just
got to open this up to find out

1697
01:44:41,190 --> 01:44:44,100
who did the actual report. This
is Gallup. Oh, there you go.

1698
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:47,070
Gallup poll. Would you say
that's reasonably no more

1699
01:44:47,070 --> 01:44:48,150
corrupt than the rest?

1700
01:44:48,509 --> 01:44:53,669
I would say it's probably the
least of the corrupt groups. I

1701
01:44:53,669 --> 01:44:56,729
like when I see Gallup I they
have a trust. They're

1702
01:44:56,729 --> 01:44:59,399
trustworthy in the trust. Since

1703
01:44:59,429 --> 01:45:04,529
February 3 In 2014, America's
views of Russia, Putin are worst

1704
01:45:04,529 --> 01:45:08,999
Aden years. clear majority view
the Russian president and his

1705
01:45:08,999 --> 01:45:13,319
nation unfavourably. Yeah, no
kidding.

1706
01:45:13,860 --> 01:45:16,860
So the propaganda machine does
its job as host

1707
01:45:16,860 --> 01:45:19,380
nation, Russia dominates the
world stage the Winter Olympics.

1708
01:45:19,380 --> 01:45:22,800
And so he, Americans clearly do
not think highly of the country

1709
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,130
or its President Vladimir Putin.
Putin and Russia scored the

1710
01:45:26,130 --> 01:45:30,930
highest unfavourable rating 63
and 60%, respectively, that

1711
01:45:30,930 --> 01:45:33,690
Gallup has recorded for them in
the past two decades.

1712
01:45:34,170 --> 01:45:38,040
20 years good worker Human
Rights Watch. Yeah,

1713
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:40,650
it's exactly what you wanted.
Well, there you go.

1714
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:45,120
Now, here's what's funny. I so
I'm, I don't know why this keeps

1715
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:47,880
getting lost in the conversation
because we I maybe because we

1716
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,610
don't hound our pound on it
enough. I'm listening to

1717
01:45:50,610 --> 01:45:54,540
somebody else's podcast. And the
guy goes on with this thesis

1718
01:45:54,540 --> 01:45:57,930
that we have because I guess it
got to him about the gay thing

1719
01:45:57,930 --> 01:46:00,990
in Russia is overblown. And the
Russians are just what they are.

1720
01:46:00,990 --> 01:46:03,870
I mean, they're the things you
know, they haven't drawn going

1721
01:46:03,870 --> 01:46:06,540
out of their way to do one thing
or another about gays coming

1722
01:46:06,540 --> 01:46:10,230
over to visit so she and so
she's not that bad, of a

1723
01:46:10,230 --> 01:46:15,930
situation in reality. And the
comment was, why would we do

1724
01:46:15,930 --> 01:46:19,500
that? Why would we what is the
point of making the Russians

1725
01:46:19,500 --> 01:46:24,060
look like a bunch of saps and
creeps? It's always forgotten

1726
01:46:24,060 --> 01:46:32,160
that the Russians have Snowden.
Yeah. It's about Snowden. Give

1727
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:37,020
us Snowden No, not giving you
Snowden. Oh, really? Okay, well

1728
01:46:37,020 --> 01:46:41,730
here out here. Watch this all
tracks right back to Snowden.

1729
01:46:43,140 --> 01:46:46,470
Just to show you how great the
no agenda global audiences I got

1730
01:46:46,470 --> 01:46:50,640
a tweet from someone who was
watching RTL four, which is the

1731
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:54,960
commercial broadcaster in the
Netherlands. And he said, Oh my

1732
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:59,640
god, RTL four on their newscast
use the same drag queens for a

1733
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:07,050
Sochi report as as NBC used the
same drag queens in the same

1734
01:47:07,050 --> 01:47:12,030
sorry as club with the same
sorry as story about how gays

1735
01:47:12,030 --> 01:47:13,590
are persecuted in so cheap.

1736
01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:17,760
Yeah, it's a package a package.
Exactly. And I wonder who did

1737
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,310
the package do we know who else
did I bet you it was one of

1738
01:47:20,310 --> 01:47:21,480
these NGOs? I

1739
01:47:21,480 --> 01:47:25,110
think it's well, I don't think
it was it wasn't a package per

1740
01:47:25,110 --> 01:47:28,770
se because the it's useless for
me to play because all in Dutch,

1741
01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:32,730
the the they had their own
reporter there but I think that

1742
01:47:32,730 --> 01:47:35,880
they have a liaison. You know,
this is part of the Human Rights

1743
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:40,950
Watch liaison there. It's like,
okay, NBC a tomorrow we'll be

1744
01:47:40,950 --> 01:47:46,320
going to the drag quad to the to
the Viking bar. And then RTL we

1745
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,860
can go on Thursday. Yes. Okay.
Very good. Well, such all up.

1746
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:55,080
Well, it's not I don't mean it's
a package by by, like a package

1747
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:57,720
package where it's a complete
product, right. But one of these

1748
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:01,140
years to be role, here's the
script. Here's the kind of thing

1749
01:48:01,140 --> 01:48:03,030
you know, one of those things
where you can have your local

1750
01:48:03,030 --> 01:48:06,420
guy doing the report, I think is
more common now than I've done a

1751
01:48:06,420 --> 01:48:10,470
pure package that is completely
done from beginning to end.

1752
01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:10,770
Right.

1753
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:14,310
Right. And meanwhile, I would I
found the real news to be is

1754
01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:19,980
that Egypt has apparently
reached a deal with Russia, for

1755
01:48:19,980 --> 01:48:24,180
Russian military equipment,
which so we have said, you know,

1756
01:48:24,180 --> 01:48:27,180
screw you guys, we're not going
to give you the F 16 We're not

1757
01:48:27,180 --> 01:48:32,100
going to give you some
helicopters. And Russia Putin

1758
01:48:32,100 --> 01:48:36,720
goes to Egypt makes a $3 billion
deal which apparently the Saudi

1759
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:41,850
Arabia is going to fund and no
one is talking about this if I

1760
01:48:41,850 --> 01:48:46,110
find wow there you got me I find
this to be something that needs

1761
01:48:46,110 --> 01:48:50,010
to be evaluated that we are
giving money. Of course that's

1762
01:48:50,010 --> 01:48:52,830
how it works and we give money
to Egypt, Egypt then I don't

1763
01:48:52,830 --> 01:48:55,770
think they even get our stuff
and then we get a check. Right?

1764
01:48:55,770 --> 01:48:59,640
Don't we just cut it directly to
the contractor? I would presume

1765
01:48:59,670 --> 01:49:02,730
I presume Egypt doesn't get a
check or Bitcoin.

1766
01:49:03,810 --> 01:49:05,400
No, no, no, they get a

1767
01:49:05,610 --> 01:49:11,010
Bitcoin one Bitcoin. So now,
Saudi Arabia has said, Well, you

1768
01:49:11,010 --> 01:49:13,260
know, we're kind of interested
in Egypt thing over there. We

1769
01:49:13,260 --> 01:49:18,570
want to because they're always
involved in everything. And

1770
01:49:18,570 --> 01:49:23,160
they're going to give $3 billion
to the Russians for MIG 20 nines

1771
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:30,240
and mi 35. Helicopters, some
light weapons of ammo. And but

1772
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:34,260
no, Bob Costas has pinkeye. And
what are we doing in America

1773
01:49:34,260 --> 01:49:38,010
people? What are we doing
anywhere with any kind of news?

1774
01:49:38,370 --> 01:49:41,490
Oh, the Dutch. to of course, the
Dutch are sweeping the

1775
01:49:41,490 --> 01:49:44,400
speedskating which, which is
great, you know that we have I

1776
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:48,180
think the men won. Gold, Silver,
Bronze women gold, silver,

1777
01:49:48,180 --> 01:49:51,840
bronze, Putin. This is what
Putin is over there, sucking up

1778
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:55,320
to our queen, our hottie queen
from Argentina, and our King

1779
01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:59,250
King Pils who's drunk, too
because he's drunk all the time.

1780
01:49:59,250 --> 01:50:06,150
He's 100 The Olympics it's it's
and that's all that they can

1781
01:50:06,150 --> 01:50:09,720
report on. Nothing else is
important. It is such a big

1782
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:13,080
distraction from reality. But
it's hunger. And we

1783
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,810
do the same thing where we watch
the reports together. Guy comes

1784
01:50:15,810 --> 01:50:18,210
in first a guy come to the gate
with a great story guy comes the

1785
01:50:18,210 --> 01:50:21,120
second guy, an American comes in
third the interview the American

1786
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:23,790
Yeah, of course. How was it
coming? How was it coming in

1787
01:50:23,790 --> 01:50:28,320
third? He wasn't exciting. Yeah,
it was exciting. I'm glad I got

1788
01:50:28,350 --> 01:50:29,220
third. Yeah.

1789
01:50:30,510 --> 01:50:33,900
So I think these things. And
then of course, we had the

1790
01:50:33,930 --> 01:50:37,950
hockey thing, which I guess we
got a ruling and we beat Russia

1791
01:50:37,950 --> 01:50:39,420
because of some technicality.

1792
01:50:40,110 --> 01:50:44,850
Well, it was it wasn't that it
was. Yeah, we had the net was

1793
01:50:44,850 --> 01:50:48,630
out of the hole. And by my rule,
you can't date gold doesn't

1794
01:50:48,630 --> 01:50:49,830
count. It's just a rule.

1795
01:50:49,860 --> 01:50:53,820
So you think that all of this
that the entire gang up is only

1796
01:50:53,820 --> 01:50:54,630
about Snowden?

1797
01:50:55,710 --> 01:51:01,380
I think so. Yeah. Oh, well, no,
no. Okay. Also the Syria, Syria

1798
01:51:01,380 --> 01:51:04,260
because Russia has a bunch of
things. But Snowden was the was

1799
01:51:04,260 --> 01:51:07,020
the was the cherry on the top of
the thing. That's when we let it

1800
01:51:07,020 --> 01:51:09,720
rip? Yeah. i Come on,

1801
01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:12,600
I think I think a lot of it has
to do with Syria, because Syria

1802
01:51:12,630 --> 01:51:15,360
is essentially been saved. If
you really want to look at it

1803
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:20,040
objectively. The Syrian people,
they all would have been dead,

1804
01:51:20,190 --> 01:51:22,950
all bombed to smithereens like
Libya. And you wouldn't have

1805
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:27,030
seen any of it if it were not
for the Russians. I truly think

1806
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:30,570
Russia saved more Syrian people
than we're pretending to with

1807
01:51:30,570 --> 01:51:33,360
sending, you know, al Qaeda
fighters over there.

1808
01:51:35,070 --> 01:51:37,980
It's just I agree with that.
Yeah. Because I think the

1809
01:51:37,980 --> 01:51:40,230
Russians are full of crap,
because I've been watching a lot

1810
01:51:40,230 --> 01:51:44,550
of RT. And, you know, they're
full of crap. I mean, they're,

1811
01:51:44,550 --> 01:51:46,950
they're trying to do the best
they can with the propaganda,

1812
01:51:46,980 --> 01:51:50,970
their propaganda machine, which
doesn't even come close to ours,

1813
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:55,380
were so much better. Yes. It
says ludicrous. And they and I

1814
01:51:55,380 --> 01:51:57,840
think they're flummoxed by the
whole thing to kind of like, Oh,

1815
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:01,830
God, what do we do now? I don't
know. And they just hope to God

1816
01:52:01,830 --> 01:52:06,030
that I mean, we're two guys that
try to compare notes on these

1817
01:52:06,030 --> 01:52:10,860
things. And we see what the
Russians are up to, and our what

1818
01:52:10,860 --> 01:52:13,260
our State Department is up to in
terms of countering what the

1819
01:52:13,260 --> 01:52:16,260
Russians are trying to do right.
And then there's the Chinese

1820
01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:19,470
issue which the Russians are
also kind of a wildcard in that

1821
01:52:19,470 --> 01:52:21,570
because they're kind of friends
with the Chinese but then again,

1822
01:52:21,570 --> 01:52:24,090
they're not because they share a
border and they really don't

1823
01:52:24,090 --> 01:52:27,120
like each other. It's it's
interesting, but yeah, the

1824
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:30,360
Russians are out flanked by us
by lots it's just got to be

1825
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:33,570
frustrating if you're them Yeah.
And I think that's part of the

1826
01:52:33,570 --> 01:52:36,090
reason that Putin is always out
there with the shirt off. You

1827
01:52:36,090 --> 01:52:38,760
know, your president can't ride
a motorcycle your president

1828
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:40,860
can't write he all you ever see
him throw a baseball he can

1829
01:52:40,860 --> 01:52:42,900
throw a baseball I can do a
shoot shoot a basket know

1830
01:52:42,900 --> 01:52:46,560
what it is here so thank you for
pointing this out. This is and

1831
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,820
by the way, all of this can be
solved very easily all Russia

1832
01:52:50,820 --> 01:52:54,660
has to do is hire the curry
Devorah Consulting Group. We

1833
01:52:54,660 --> 01:52:59,310
know how to do this for you.
They are using know that using

1834
01:52:59,430 --> 01:53:04,020
cold war tactics of look at my
my chest. Look at the bear I

1835
01:53:04,020 --> 01:53:07,590
shot Look at the fish I caught.
This is no you know, you got to

1836
01:53:07,590 --> 01:53:13,080
do. You have to be way, way way
on the other end of things to

1837
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:15,300
impress the world stage. This is
all

1838
01:53:15,900 --> 01:53:19,470
do. Right. This is all 50s 60s

1839
01:53:19,500 --> 01:53:22,680
era. Thank you. You know, first
of all, Vlad has got it. He's

1840
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:25,590
got to start speaking English.
He's gotten you'll get someone

1841
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:30,330
you just got to do it. You are
behind you have zero. You need

1842
01:53:30,330 --> 01:53:34,140
to speak the language of the
kids. And that's what I'm all

1843
01:53:34,140 --> 01:53:36,510
the kids speak English because
that's the popular culture. Just

1844
01:53:36,510 --> 01:53:41,340
learn a few words. Tweet it. We
could start there. We can start

1845
01:53:41,340 --> 01:53:45,720
there. Now. Where's Russia's
First Lady? And we've got

1846
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:50,220
Michelle Obama. Excuse me, by
the way, this counts the $12,000

1847
01:53:50,220 --> 01:53:55,110
dress the Celebrate ease and her
at the state dinner. This stuff

1848
01:53:55,110 --> 01:54:00,870
counts on the world stage. Putin
you get your baby out there get

1849
01:54:00,870 --> 01:54:05,310
her done gussied up and some.
You know, Tom for you. You were

1850
01:54:05,310 --> 01:54:12,090
the Tom Ford give her some go to
a Gucci whatever, Versace. You

1851
01:54:12,090 --> 01:54:15,060
got store's there you got to
gussied up man.

1852
01:54:16,890 --> 01:54:20,820
I start talking to the way I the
way I see it even though it

1853
01:54:20,820 --> 01:54:23,880
doesn't really work because
after spending $50 billion on

1854
01:54:24,780 --> 01:54:29,640
gussying up Sochi the he gets a
lot of he gets a lot of flack

1855
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:34,020
from his political competition.
As a spendthrift he's just all

1856
01:54:34,020 --> 01:54:37,950
you guys he's you he's not a
he's not a good Soviet or Soviet

1857
01:54:37,980 --> 01:54:41,910
Russian. Recently he's too
flamboyant, which is not true.

1858
01:54:41,940 --> 01:54:44,700
The Russians actually have a
history of flam Catherine the

1859
01:54:44,700 --> 01:54:50,100
Great Peter the Great all these
the greats Putin the great they

1860
01:54:50,100 --> 01:54:52,710
have with all these in the past
they you know, they would the

1861
01:54:52,710 --> 01:54:54,930
French and the Russians were
very close to each other

1862
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,510
historically, and they would
always copy each other the

1863
01:54:57,510 --> 01:55:00,450
French love the Russians in
terms of their art and

1864
01:55:00,450 --> 01:55:03,870
architecture and then it goes
the other way. And so they when

1865
01:55:03,870 --> 01:55:06,270
Catherine the Great goddess, she
just built the place up with all

1866
01:55:06,270 --> 01:55:09,900
kinds of fancy palaces and, and
then before that they've done

1867
01:55:09,900 --> 01:55:13,680
this for just all the time until
Stalin got in. And then he just

1868
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:16,440
built everything. And this kind
of let me let me. Let me give

1869
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:17,640
you an example, I designed

1870
01:55:17,670 --> 01:55:21,660
an example. So on this ski
slopestyle thing, they have a

1871
01:55:21,660 --> 01:55:25,920
big babushka doll on the ski
slope of the nesting doll. Yeah,

1872
01:55:25,950 --> 01:55:28,440
they need chicks to pop out of
that at some point. You know,

1873
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:32,430
like, babes. Not just another
doll. You know, this is

1874
01:55:32,580 --> 01:55:34,440
modernise a little bit people.

1875
01:55:34,770 --> 01:55:38,010
The thing Russia does have that
dollar school because the some

1876
01:55:38,010 --> 01:55:39,540
of the stunt guys would bounce

1877
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:43,470
bounce off of it. I know. I
know. The the best thing the

1878
01:55:43,470 --> 01:55:46,950
best thing Putin has going for
him in this fight America

1879
01:55:46,980 --> 01:55:51,720
against Russia. Putin against
Obama. Yeah, apart. He's clever.

1880
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:56,430
It's clearly his his agent of
change, Joe Biden. He's working

1881
01:55:56,430 --> 01:56:00,570
for the Russians. Did you hear
what he said just the other day?

1882
01:56:01,259 --> 01:56:02,129
You have a clip? I

1883
01:56:02,130 --> 01:56:06,750
do. It always surprises me when
we don't have the degree of

1884
01:56:06,750 --> 01:56:10,530
optimism we should about the
state of the nation. And in

1885
01:56:10,530 --> 01:56:13,680
spite of who's president, in
spite of who's in the Congress,

1886
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:19,560
in spite of who's president.
That's your boss, dude. You

1887
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,680
realise you can say in spite of
the President,

1888
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:26,820
that he doesn't know a lot
doesn't even know what

1889
01:56:26,820 --> 01:56:32,190
does he even know what he's
saying? In spite, in spite of

1890
01:56:32,190 --> 01:56:36,960
the who's president. Wow, Joe,
pick up your ruble check.

1891
01:56:40,260 --> 01:56:45,270
Well, he's he deserves it for
that. Meanwhile, yeah, they need

1892
01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:48,810
to upgrade they got to modernise
to get to bring it up to the

1893
01:56:48,810 --> 01:56:51,690
21st century. That's just old
fashioned stuff. I mean, it's

1894
01:56:51,690 --> 01:56:54,330
funny for us, I mean, we get a
kick out of seeing Putin, you

1895
01:56:54,330 --> 01:56:58,050
know, doing some dumb things
flying with a with a goose and a

1896
01:56:59,370 --> 01:57:02,880
ultralight is an example. But
yeah,

1897
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:06,960
and but I know all of that is
it's you're right. 1950s

1898
01:57:07,650 --> 01:57:11,490
He got definitely jobbed on this
social thing, because when you

1899
01:57:11,490 --> 01:57:15,810
see that when you watch Russia,
today's version of the Olympics,

1900
01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:19,590
and they of course, they're, you
know, promoting it. They show

1901
01:57:19,590 --> 01:57:22,140
some stuff though, that is like
I never saw that the some of the

1902
01:57:22,140 --> 01:57:25,350
fireworks displays and some of
the cute little town that's

1903
01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:29,130
there, and they just they, you
know, they roaming around is

1904
01:57:29,130 --> 01:57:32,340
really quite quite attractive.
It'd be a cool place to visit.

1905
01:57:32,670 --> 01:57:35,040
But I've never get that
impression from any American

1906
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:35,610
coverage.

1907
01:57:36,150 --> 01:57:44,040
I saw that. I see. Do I have it
here? So they were misusing the

1908
01:57:44,070 --> 01:57:48,810
global warming in Sochi? Yeah,
because I guess they don't have

1909
01:57:48,810 --> 01:57:54,690
snow or it's, it's above
freezing. And there's and so now

1910
01:57:54,690 --> 01:57:57,900
that's being misused as Oh, yes.
Well, there's a global warming

1911
01:57:57,900 --> 01:58:01,680
and it's ruining the Olympics.
Well, isn't Sochi a place that

1912
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:05,430
has palm trees? isn't the kind
of like doesn't kind of happen

1913
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:05,730
there?

1914
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:09,780
It's a resort town on the on
the, on the Balkan or in the was

1915
01:58:09,780 --> 01:58:13,350
it the Black Sea? Yes, it's a
resort town. It's a resort

1916
01:58:13,380 --> 01:58:16,860
village that they built up and
probably going to have a Do you

1917
01:58:16,860 --> 01:58:18,630
know, I don't know what they're
going to do with it now. But

1918
01:58:18,660 --> 01:58:21,870
because of all this extra
buildings, but yeah, it's all

1919
01:58:21,870 --> 01:58:25,080
built up. It's it. But it's,
it's a summer thing. And so it

1920
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:28,410
probably doesn't get that cold.
They all have skiing stuff is 45

1921
01:58:28,410 --> 01:58:29,130
minutes away.

1922
01:58:30,450 --> 01:58:35,790
But we're getting a tonne of, of
course, in. Here's the situation

1923
01:58:35,790 --> 01:58:40,530
in the United States, we have
the pretty big Cold Snap, which

1924
01:58:40,530 --> 01:58:44,340
is not unprecedented, but it's
it's very annoying for people on

1925
01:58:44,340 --> 01:58:48,270
the West Coast and southern
states. In the meantime, in

1926
01:58:48,300 --> 01:58:53,340
Europe and the United Kingdom is
flooding. The Dutch claim they

1927
01:58:53,340 --> 01:58:56,100
have the warmest winter ever,
which I also don't think is

1928
01:58:56,100 --> 01:59:02,220
true. Then people are using the
example of it being very warm in

1929
01:59:02,220 --> 01:59:05,190
Australia. Of course this is
their summer it's exactly polar

1930
01:59:05,190 --> 01:59:10,260
opposite. But CBS really is
taking this to the max with

1931
01:59:10,260 --> 01:59:15,510
this. You know the me Shukaku
the crazy Asian scientist guy.

1932
01:59:16,260 --> 01:59:19,920
What they bring in from time to
time. Yeah, to white hair. Yes,

1933
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:25,590
that guy. That guy, that guy. So
and he is a he's not a

1934
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:29,730
meteorologist. I think he's a
he's a physics physicists right.

1935
01:59:29,820 --> 01:59:32,850
But he is now in charge of
propagating the message you need

1936
01:59:32,850 --> 01:59:36,870
to listen to this report.
combating the global cooling

1937
01:59:36,870 --> 01:59:40,290
that we believe we are in.
Charlie Rose just muttering

1938
01:59:42,210 --> 01:59:45,120
throughout the whole thing while
Kaku is talking out of his butt

1939
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:45,300
as

1940
01:59:45,300 --> 01:59:49,200
another major storm system hits
the south and the east subzero

1941
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:52,950
temperatures still gripped the
Midwest and Western Oregon and

1942
01:59:52,950 --> 01:59:55,830
Washington State were hit with
unusual snow.

1943
01:59:56,130 --> 01:59:59,220
Northern California just got
about 20 inches of rain from a

1944
01:59:59,220 --> 02:00:02,490
pineapple Mix. pres but that
state is far from ending its

1945
02:00:02,490 --> 02:00:03,660
drought emergency

1946
02:00:04,140 --> 02:00:07,830
question about that. When When
do you have enough rain to end

1947
02:00:07,830 --> 02:00:11,400
the drought emergency? What do
you really need to end it? In

1948
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:12,120
California?

1949
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:15,900
I was listening to you your I
don't know if you listened to

1950
02:00:15,900 --> 02:00:19,830
her normally but just the
congressional dish with Jen

1951
02:00:19,830 --> 02:00:20,430
brainy.

1952
02:00:20,670 --> 02:00:24,360
Yeah, I listened to her but
sometimes I get annoyed by her

1953
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:25,620
Obama bot ism

1954
02:00:25,980 --> 02:00:28,710
is She's a bit of a bot but
that's but she does go through

1955
02:00:28,710 --> 02:00:31,680
this stuff. And she went through
the Farm Bill. Yes, I heard what

1956
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:34,290
she did. I realised there's
something she talks about which

1957
02:00:34,290 --> 02:00:40,890
is the drought funds that if you
apparently declare a drought,

1958
02:00:41,220 --> 02:00:44,100
sort exactly what I was thinking
yeah, how much money can you

1959
02:00:44,100 --> 02:00:45,240
get? You get a

1960
02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:48,450
bunch of money so you you're
also a California if it can do

1961
02:00:48,450 --> 02:00:50,280
it. It just stays in a drought
no matter how

1962
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:55,320
much. Yes, that's what I was
thinking. It's a scam. Yes. And

1963
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:57,210
it's a federal funding scam.

1964
02:00:57,720 --> 02:01:00,840
Yeah, it's just a way to get
money from the feds. But they

1965
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:04,110
have to pretend you know, it got
us a drought. Oh, yeah. And then

1966
02:01:04,110 --> 02:01:06,510
that gives them an excuse to
jack up the rates again, they

1967
02:01:06,510 --> 02:01:10,290
never lower the rates by the
way. What is gonna be flooding?

1968
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:12,840
What do you think Charlie meant
by a Pineapple Express? Is that

1969
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:14,880
a medium meteorological term?
It's,

1970
02:01:15,210 --> 02:01:20,640
it's any storm that comes in
over Hawaii. Okay, and then

1971
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:23,820
comes up and picks up tropical
moisture and drops it in

1972
02:01:23,820 --> 02:01:25,920
California is called a Pineapple
Express

1973
02:01:26,190 --> 02:01:30,180
tide, but I keep following this
and I also see the the Federal

1974
02:01:30,180 --> 02:01:33,990
Register. And every single day
there's the President signed

1975
02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:37,410
disaster relief for the state
for Georgia for Florida. For

1976
02:01:37,410 --> 02:01:41,520
California for New Jersey. It's
like billions and billions of

1977
02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:44,010
dollars. And I think you're
right, as long as you keep

1978
02:01:44,010 --> 02:01:47,460
claiming it's a drought no
matter how hard it rains. I

1979
02:01:47,460 --> 02:01:52,110
mean, I'm expecting zero fruits
and greens from California this

1980
02:01:52,110 --> 02:01:54,510
year. You guys must be dying out
there. I mean, yeah, I can't

1981
02:01:54,510 --> 02:01:58,410
believe I'm talking to you. You
must be dead. The way it sounds

1982
02:01:58,650 --> 02:02:01,380
out here and it's everything was
pretty green, CBS News. Now

1983
02:02:01,380 --> 02:02:05,280
here's I was just apparently a
whopper coming in. That's going

1984
02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:08,460
to drop a couple of feet on us
and it looks like it's going it

1985
02:02:08,460 --> 02:02:11,100
looks like the jet stream is
shifting enough to bring all

1986
02:02:11,100 --> 02:02:15,030
this Alaskan air down. We're
filled with moisture and just

1987
02:02:15,030 --> 02:02:18,450
flood us I mean, just nails and
I guarantee after that's over,

1988
02:02:18,450 --> 02:02:18,960
it'll still be

1989
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:23,460
drought. Now. You're right.
Here's the rest of this report

1990
02:02:23,460 --> 02:02:26,790
rain from a Pineapple Express.
But that state is far from

1991
02:02:26,820 --> 02:02:30,840
ending its drought emergency.
CBS News contributor Michio Kaku

1992
02:02:30,870 --> 02:02:33,960
is a physics professor, which
means he knows nothing

1993
02:02:33,990 --> 02:02:37,860
professionally Professor really
about climate at the City

1994
02:02:37,860 --> 02:02:40,500
College of New York. Good
morning. Morning. So what's

1995
02:02:40,500 --> 02:02:41,670
causing all this?

1996
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:44,580
Well, the wacky weather it could
get even wacky her.

1997
02:02:45,270 --> 02:02:46,620
That's when I perk up.

1998
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:51,000
Holy crap. When did he become a
broadcaster The Morning

1999
02:02:51,780 --> 02:02:58,110
everybody. My daddy was a
Beatle.

2000
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:01,710
I don't know why I said that.
But that's what they do at the

2001
02:03:01,710 --> 02:03:02,040
morning.

2002
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:08,100
What we're seeing is that the
jet stream and the polar vortex

2003
02:03:08,100 --> 02:03:12,720
are becoming unstable, unstable,
unstable instability of historic

2004
02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:13,410
proportions.

2005
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:16,200
historic proportions. I will
give you no backup no proof, but

2006
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:17,220
It's historic. Trust me.

2007
02:03:17,460 --> 02:03:20,970
Now think of the polar vortex as
a bucket. A swirling bucket of

2008
02:03:20,970 --> 02:03:25,260
cold air. However the walls are
weakening. Cold air is spilling

2009
02:03:25,260 --> 02:03:25,650
listen to

2010
02:03:25,680 --> 02:03:31,890
RO is going. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
he's, he's a robot. And he's

2011
02:03:31,890 --> 02:03:32,940
just lapping it up

2012
02:03:33,179 --> 02:03:36,449
bottling bucket of cold air.
However, the walls are

2013
02:03:36,449 --> 02:03:40,319
weakening, cold air is spilling
out spilling out over the walls

2014
02:03:40,319 --> 02:03:44,519
of the bucket. And the question
is why? Why is this polar vortex

2015
02:03:44,609 --> 02:03:45,389
weakening?

2016
02:03:45,540 --> 02:03:51,810
This is. This is like Romper
Room. It's a big bucket but the

2017
02:03:51,810 --> 02:03:55,710
walls are weakening. And the air
is spilling over the thin walls.

2018
02:03:55,800 --> 02:04:00,540
The question is why? Why? Let's
ask dooby dooby can tell us

2019
02:04:00,570 --> 02:04:05,010
we think it's because of the
gradual heating of the north

2020
02:04:05,010 --> 02:04:05,490
pole

2021
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:10,620
out the gradual heating of the
north we think it's the gradual

2022
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:12,510
heating of the North Pole.

2023
02:04:12,690 --> 02:04:14,580
The North Pole is melting.

2024
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:18,870
It's melting that excess heat
global warming Charlie Rose. Oh,

2025
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:25,020
God. I just woke up. Cuckoo Did
you say global warming melting?

2026
02:04:26,790 --> 02:04:28,470
Listen to rose in the
background. It's hilarious

2027
02:04:28,470 --> 02:04:29,340
global warming.

2028
02:04:29,730 --> 02:04:33,690
The North Pole is melting. That
excess heat. This is

2029
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:36,330
this is the programming. See
Charlie Rose is very tired.

2030
02:04:36,540 --> 02:04:38,310
Very, very tired. Man. He does

2031
02:04:38,310 --> 02:04:41,280
too much work. It's way too much
have to. There's only a few guys

2032
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:44,460
with a few minutes. Just let me
go aside for a second. He does

2033
02:04:44,460 --> 02:04:47,760
his regular interview show which
takes a lot of effort has a big

2034
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:51,360
staff. He's got to coordinate
and then he's got to talk to all

2035
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:54,330
these guys. And if you've done
an interview show of any sort

2036
02:04:54,330 --> 02:04:56,850
over the years, you know that
most people are not even

2037
02:04:56,850 --> 02:04:59,970
interesting, right? They can't
Converse you have to carry this

2038
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,150
show it's like a lot of work.
And so you get pooped. That's

2039
02:05:03,150 --> 02:05:05,400
enough work for anyone guy,
believe it or not, even though

2040
02:05:05,400 --> 02:05:06,180
it's only an hour. I

2041
02:05:06,510 --> 02:05:08,250
know it's a lot of work,

2042
02:05:08,550 --> 02:05:11,580
and a lot of work and doesn't
look like it, but it is. And he

2043
02:05:11,580 --> 02:05:15,810
and I do a morning show, which
means you have to get up at 430

2044
02:05:15,810 --> 02:05:16,470
earlier no

2045
02:05:16,470 --> 02:05:20,070
earlier. No, no, he's okay. But
three, he's up a three man

2046
02:05:20,070 --> 02:05:20,520
desperately

2047
02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:23,610
in the morning. Yeah. And then
you got to prep and they got a

2048
02:05:23,610 --> 02:05:26,460
budget to make up and then you
got to go over the Shah and you

2049
02:05:26,460 --> 02:05:29,970
got to, and that's an hour and a
half show. Right? So you gotta

2050
02:05:29,970 --> 02:05:30,960
be lively.

2051
02:05:31,050 --> 02:05:33,810
So here's what's happening the
housewives. So he is in a

2052
02:05:33,810 --> 02:05:39,330
constant buzz, coma buzz. Yeah.
And this is what's so beautiful

2053
02:05:39,330 --> 02:05:46,620
about it because the trigger
words are ISIS mountain North

2054
02:05:46,620 --> 02:05:51,390
Pole is melting. The pole is
warming. And then you can hear

2055
02:05:51,390 --> 02:05:55,860
him go. Global warming, which is
what most people are programmed

2056
02:05:55,860 --> 02:06:00,000
to think. This is guess is
programming in process. It's

2057
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:03,180
beautiful. A wicked. I'm Sir
Richard Attenborough. And here

2058
02:06:03,180 --> 02:06:06,420
we see a fine specimen. A
specimen known as the morning

2059
02:06:06,420 --> 02:06:09,840
news Casta. The news. The news
Castle wish

2060
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:12,720
you could find the clip of him
where he's making a pass it that

2061
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:13,140
woman

2062
02:06:13,799 --> 02:06:20,459
I have I have that. I have it.
We have the newscaster the news

2063
02:06:20,459 --> 02:06:23,759
cast that has been programmed
over the years to believe in

2064
02:06:23,939 --> 02:06:26,669
Angry pressure by global
warming. That's the stuff that

2065
02:06:26,669 --> 02:06:31,289
man made themselves. And when he
gets the keywords, he literally

2066
02:06:31,289 --> 02:06:33,449
will wake up and say global
warming

2067
02:06:33,509 --> 02:06:38,459
weakening. We think it's because
of the gradual heating up of the

2068
02:06:38,459 --> 02:06:46,709
North Pole. The North Pole is
melting. Tell me about the

2069
02:06:46,709 --> 02:06:50,189
sexuality. It's in your DNA.
That's right.

2070
02:06:51,780 --> 02:06:54,510
That is the creepy. That was
Angelina Jolie,

2071
02:06:54,540 --> 02:06:58,200
tell me about your sexuality is
in your DNA global warming.

2072
02:06:58,650 --> 02:07:02,250
That excess heat generated by
all this warm water is

2073
02:07:02,250 --> 02:07:06,570
destabilising this gigantic
bucket of cold air weakening

2074
02:07:06,570 --> 02:07:10,860
this low pressure region causing
cold air to spill out over the

2075
02:07:10,860 --> 02:07:12,960
United States. Okay, that's the
irony.

2076
02:07:13,380 --> 02:07:16,440
What's the irony of the bucket
and the whatever leading

2077
02:07:16,500 --> 02:07:20,040
could cause gigantic storms of
historic proportions?

2078
02:07:20,070 --> 02:07:25,080
Okay, so the irony is the
heating can cause gigantic

2079
02:07:25,080 --> 02:07:27,780
storms of epic proportions.
Okay, we get the third please

2080
02:07:30,570 --> 02:07:34,470
get the spilling out of the
bucket right because right now I

2081
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:38,610
don't get that. This one is this
happened before the spilling out

2082
02:07:38,610 --> 02:07:40,110
of the bucket. Right. Okay, we
get

2083
02:07:40,110 --> 02:07:43,080
the third please. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.

2084
02:07:43,590 --> 02:07:46,830
We get the spilling out of the
bucket. Right. We see this snow

2085
02:07:46,830 --> 02:07:50,280
in the Midwest in the South. Why
then is California been the

2086
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:52,980
driest on record? I mean, look
at the snowpack in the Sierras.

2087
02:07:52,980 --> 02:07:55,590
Any whiskey or nose out there
they have so little snowpack,

2088
02:07:55,650 --> 02:07:56,610
huge drought,

2089
02:07:56,970 --> 02:08:01,620
because a lot of the weather
that warm. The moisture laden

2090
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:05,400
air which should go to
California is being diverted

2091
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,530
into Canada who had freezes.

2092
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:14,340
Oh, yes. Finally, damn can the
Navy and stealing our snow? I

2093
02:08:14,340 --> 02:08:14,850
knew it

2094
02:08:14,910 --> 02:08:18,480
and it falls on your backyard.
So in some sense, there's a link

2095
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:21,480
between what's happening in
California as the Jetstream

2096
02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:28,320
diverts diverts the the moisture
laden air over Canada and then

2097
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:31,950
it snows on the on the United
States. I'm trying to follow

2098
02:08:31,950 --> 02:08:32,160
you.

2099
02:08:32,610 --> 02:08:35,160
I'm really trying to follow you.
But does this explain why

2100
02:08:35,370 --> 02:08:38,760
Niagara Falls is frozen and why
it's warm in Sochi? It's all

2101
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:40,020
connected to the same thing.

2102
02:08:41,790 --> 02:08:43,410
Okay, so what is that saying?

2103
02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:45,240
This guy off the air? Oh, no,

2104
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:48,840
he's he's genius. In fact,
they're going to compliment him

2105
02:08:49,050 --> 02:08:51,540
on his broadcast
professionalism. It's connected.

2106
02:08:51,930 --> 02:08:52,470
Look at

2107
02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:56,760
globally, globally, globally. I
know I'm trying rose globally,

2108
02:08:56,790 --> 02:09:00,120
you see he's had to England is
flooding right now. Latin

2109
02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:03,180
America is warm. While
California has a drought. We're

2110
02:09:03,180 --> 02:09:06,750
talking about instabilities
caused by the erratic new

2111
02:09:06,780 --> 02:09:09,090
weather stream

2112
02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:11,760
what can be done about it,
Professor? Ah, well, I think we

2113
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:13,110
can actually do about it.

2114
02:09:13,530 --> 02:09:16,500
The bad news is that the North
polarising that continues to

2115
02:09:16,500 --> 02:09:20,070
rise in temperature. It seems to
be irreversible at a certain

2116
02:09:20,070 --> 02:09:20,460
point.

2117
02:09:20,850 --> 02:09:24,540
Where is where is the fact that
in this, this isn't just not

2118
02:09:24,540 --> 02:09:25,110
true?

2119
02:09:25,500 --> 02:09:27,900
There's not affecting any of
this. This is all supposition

2120
02:09:27,900 --> 02:09:31,260
and just knee jerk bullcrap. And
I like to ask the question which

2121
02:09:31,260 --> 02:09:34,410
I asked every time you bring one
of these idiots on here with a

2122
02:09:34,410 --> 02:09:39,900
clip. I thought, I think the
first time I heard it was maybe

2123
02:09:39,900 --> 02:09:43,230
almost 10 years ago that if we
don't do something this year,

2124
02:09:43,770 --> 02:09:46,830
first of all, we're doomed. The
next year if we don't do

2125
02:09:46,830 --> 02:09:50,130
something this year, it's
irreversible. We're doomed. If

2126
02:09:50,130 --> 02:09:53,160
we don't do something this year,
it's irreversible. We're doomed

2127
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:56,910
happens all the time. And now
it's happening again. When are

2128
02:09:56,910 --> 02:10:02,880
we doomed? What's irreversible?
If it was irreversible 10 years

2129
02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:05,580
ago? Why is it not irreversible?
It's always gonna be. We're

2130
02:10:05,580 --> 02:10:09,360
getting near the end here. Yeah,
just bother you.

2131
02:10:09,870 --> 02:10:12,060
Me? Yes, yes, we're doomed you

2132
02:10:12,060 --> 02:10:15,300
may have to get used to a new
normal. That is a north polar

2133
02:10:15,300 --> 02:10:19,350
region that is melting, causing
more instability in this bucket

2134
02:10:19,470 --> 02:10:23,070
causing more things to spill
out, which means more extremes

2135
02:10:23,100 --> 02:10:25,980
some winters can be very mild.
Yeah, other winters could be

2136
02:10:25,980 --> 02:10:26,820
horrendous.

2137
02:10:26,850 --> 02:10:29,820
And you say 2014 is the hottest.
Listen, just

2138
02:10:29,820 --> 02:10:33,300
listen. Just listen it out, man.
Listen it out. We have to help

2139
02:10:33,300 --> 02:10:36,660
people understand the need that
they can laugh about the Jabra

2140
02:10:36,660 --> 02:10:37,770
Ionis it's on record.

2141
02:10:38,519 --> 02:10:40,769
It's shaping up that this year
could be one of the hottest

2142
02:10:40,769 --> 02:10:44,969
years on record. The decade that
just passed it was the hottest

2143
02:10:44,969 --> 02:10:47,129
decade ever recorded in history
of science.

2144
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:51,570
In the history of science ever
since bones were invented.

2145
02:10:51,600 --> 02:10:54,450
You know if this physics thing
doesn't work out, you can be a

2146
02:10:54,450 --> 02:10:55,080
weatherman.

2147
02:10:57,450 --> 02:11:03,210
Charlie Rose made a funny but
there's something up with CBS

2148
02:11:03,210 --> 02:11:08,250
CBS is really pushing this right
now. And I got an equally

2149
02:11:08,250 --> 02:11:13,200
disturbing report from the local
Steve CBS station. And you

2150
02:11:13,230 --> 02:11:18,480
there's all these climate spokes
holes that are around. They all

2151
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:22,470
did. They're available and
they're all professors somewhere

2152
02:11:22,470 --> 02:11:27,480
other. This guy what is his
profession Hold on a second.

2153
02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:33,180
He's from I think Alabama. And
his name is Terrell, what is his

2154
02:11:33,180 --> 02:11:43,200
name here? Matthew Thoreau. And
he is he's not a meteorologist.

2155
02:11:43,650 --> 02:11:46,410
I have it here somewhere. I
gotta look for what he is. But

2156
02:11:46,410 --> 02:11:49,800
he they pulled him as an expert
onto a local CBS where they're

2157
02:11:50,220 --> 02:11:54,930
essentially doing the same
package. He had dendro

2158
02:11:54,930 --> 02:12:01,410
chronology. What's dendro
chronology? Well, let's find I

2159
02:12:01,410 --> 02:12:04,590
think that's the study of dead
trees. Actually. That's probably

2160
02:12:04,590 --> 02:12:06,630
why it could be Yeah, that's
probably why he's in bald guy

2161
02:12:06,630 --> 02:12:09,810
has a huge beard. So you know
he's hiding something. A welcome

2162
02:12:09,810 --> 02:12:12,390
back in the recent winter
weather only gives more fodder

2163
02:12:12,390 --> 02:12:14,760
for those who debate the
validity of the global warming

2164
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:16,380
and climate change argument.

2165
02:12:17,910 --> 02:12:21,840
You know where this is going.
This is this is the the

2166
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:26,220
propaganda, the anti prod the
anti pill that we need to spread

2167
02:12:26,220 --> 02:12:29,550
locally to tell people that this
cold weather it's just part of

2168
02:12:29,550 --> 02:12:29,640
the

2169
02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:32,370
heat and a recent article citing
several scientists suggest our

2170
02:12:32,370 --> 02:12:36,240
planet could actually be in for
a global cooling period. Dr.

2171
02:12:36,240 --> 02:12:38,760
Matthew Farrell is a Professor
of Geography at the University

2172
02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:42,210
of Alabama. He joins us now live
from our Tuscaloosa newsroom.

2173
02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:43,890
Doctor, good morning to you.
Good morning.

2174
02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:47,670
They wait hold on a second. You
picked us up in local affiliate

2175
02:12:47,670 --> 02:12:54,780
in Arkansas, or Alabama? I mean,
it's from I mean, I always just

2176
02:12:54,780 --> 02:12:55,680
played in Austin.

2177
02:12:57,060 --> 02:13:01,800
No, this was not an Austin. I
think this is Washington state.

2178
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:06,690
Well, they don't have a play
that back. There's no way

2179
02:13:06,690 --> 02:13:09,300
anybody in Washington state has
a as a

2180
02:13:10,170 --> 02:13:12,990
let me let me let me find out
who could be wrong? Hold on. Let

2181
02:13:12,990 --> 02:13:19,560
me find out. Let me find out if
I can. I don't know where this

2182
02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:21,510
is from John. Let's listen
again, we might be able to

2183
02:13:21,510 --> 02:13:21,720
figure

2184
02:13:21,720 --> 02:13:22,680
it out. So that is slide.

2185
02:13:23,190 --> 02:13:25,830
Back in the recent winter
weather only gives more fodder

2186
02:13:25,830 --> 02:13:28,200
for those who debate the
validity of the global warming

2187
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:31,590
and climate change argument. And
a recent article citing several

2188
02:13:31,590 --> 02:13:34,170
scientists suggest our planet
could actually be in for a

2189
02:13:34,170 --> 02:13:37,920
global cooling period. Dr.
Matthew Farrell is a Professor

2190
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,890
of Geography at the University
of Alabama. He joins us now live

2191
02:13:40,890 --> 02:13:42,750
from our Tuscaloosa newsroom,
Dr.

2192
02:13:42,810 --> 02:13:45,990
Tuscaloosa. So where's
Tuscaloosa?

2193
02:13:46,889 --> 02:13:48,629
Alabama? Tuscaloosa? Alabama? So

2194
02:13:48,630 --> 02:13:49,860
it's an Alabama report.

2195
02:13:51,300 --> 02:13:54,360
I'm pretty sure Okay, morning to
be good morning could be Burma.

2196
02:13:54,360 --> 02:13:57,180
It seems like it depends on who
you're talking to these days,

2197
02:13:57,180 --> 02:13:59,070
whether there's a difference
between global warming and

2198
02:13:59,070 --> 02:14:02,070
climate change. Talking about
the saying here?

2199
02:14:02,550 --> 02:14:05,100
Well, essentially, I mean, I
think that that's an argument

2200
02:14:05,100 --> 02:14:07,890
that's sort of in the public
realm, maybe in the internet,

2201
02:14:07,890 --> 02:14:08,130
but

2202
02:14:08,670 --> 02:14:11,970
pay attention, John, just in the
internet, the stupid internet,

2203
02:14:11,970 --> 02:14:13,950
people think that that's
something Yeah.

2204
02:14:16,200 --> 02:14:19,020
I've noticed that there are a
lot of idiots on the internet.

2205
02:14:19,020 --> 02:14:21,630
They talk about stuff like that,
but we're gonna be serious here.

2206
02:14:21,750 --> 02:14:26,010
It's not a it's not a serious
it's not an important argument

2207
02:14:26,010 --> 02:14:27,690
going on in the scientific
community.

2208
02:14:27,750 --> 02:14:31,170
No, not in the scientific
community, which is different

2209
02:14:31,170 --> 02:14:33,270
from the LGBTQI community.

2210
02:14:33,300 --> 02:14:36,840
So when we get this harsh winter
weather that we're getting now a

2211
02:14:36,840 --> 02:14:40,740
sceptics though the wonder, how
could we be warming up the

2212
02:14:40,770 --> 02:14:42,330
earth? So what do you say?

2213
02:14:42,570 --> 02:14:47,820
I love how he how the package is
written. Sceptics say. It's

2214
02:14:47,820 --> 02:14:51,000
everything this whole thing is
written so beautifully to to

2215
02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:52,260
shout down people.

2216
02:14:52,470 --> 02:14:55,260
Well, I think that people need
to remember that weather and

2217
02:14:55,260 --> 02:14:58,860
climate are different things and
you can take what is convenient

2218
02:14:58,860 --> 02:15:04,020
for you one On whether event and
I ascribe that to global change,

2219
02:15:04,020 --> 02:15:06,510
for instance, at the same time
that we're experiencing really

2220
02:15:06,510 --> 02:15:09,330
cold weather. It's extremely
warm in Australia. Yeah, it's

2221
02:15:09,330 --> 02:15:12,390
their summer douche. And so you
can't

2222
02:15:12,390 --> 02:15:14,310
That is unbelievable. Yeah.

2223
02:15:15,060 --> 02:15:18,360
He's literally saying it's warm
in Australia. Yeah, it's summer

2224
02:15:18,360 --> 02:15:18,930
there.

2225
02:15:19,530 --> 02:15:22,380
Yeah, it's also kind of warm in
Panama a lot of times of the

2226
02:15:22,380 --> 02:15:23,100
year. Yeah,

2227
02:15:23,130 --> 02:15:24,450
it's very weird that way

2228
02:15:24,480 --> 02:15:27,210
can take one event and say that
that has anything to do with

2229
02:15:27,540 --> 02:15:29,700
climate change or global
warming, even

2230
02:15:30,180 --> 02:15:33,390
right now in a Forbes magazine
article back in May of last

2231
02:15:33,390 --> 02:15:35,970
year, and this is my favourite
piece. They cited noted

2232
02:15:35,970 --> 02:15:39,630
scientists from West Russia,
meteorologists from Germany is

2233
02:15:39,630 --> 02:15:42,990
saying we're actually entering
an era of global cooling caused

2234
02:15:42,990 --> 02:15:45,810
mainly by two factors, colver
ocean water,

2235
02:15:46,080 --> 02:15:46,650
what are you doing?

2236
02:15:47,670 --> 02:15:48,480
I'm clapping,

2237
02:15:49,260 --> 02:15:53,940
cycling to the top every 20 to
30 years and decreased sunspot

2238
02:15:53,940 --> 02:15:57,570
activity. So there seems to be
maybe some disagreement within

2239
02:15:57,570 --> 02:15:58,860
the scientific community.

2240
02:15:58,920 --> 02:16:02,610
Now, how are we going to address
this, because this is the Nexus

2241
02:16:02,610 --> 02:16:05,910
this, I think we probably have
people in our audience who have

2242
02:16:05,910 --> 02:16:09,780
seen this report on their local
station, maybe with this guy,

2243
02:16:09,780 --> 02:16:13,500
even as the expert, because what
happened is Forbes magazine

2244
02:16:13,500 --> 02:16:16,200
publishes an article saying
looks like global cooling. And

2245
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:21,510
they have scientists weighing in
with their expert analysis just

2246
02:16:21,510 --> 02:16:25,290
as good or as bad as the IPCC,
really. And this has to be

2247
02:16:25,320 --> 02:16:27,180
discredited. And this is how you
do it?

2248
02:16:27,510 --> 02:16:30,840
Well, you know, that's a good
point. That's something I talk

2249
02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:33,420
with my students a lot about,
which is media literacy. And,

2250
02:16:33,810 --> 02:16:36,030
you know, the first thing I
always tell them is to consider

2251
02:16:36,030 --> 02:16:39,210
the sources. And so for example,
I don't think most people

2252
02:16:39,210 --> 02:16:42,720
consider Forbes magazine, a
reputable source for climate

2253
02:16:42,720 --> 02:16:45,420
information. And if you look at
the particular article that

2254
02:16:45,420 --> 02:16:49,110
you're referencing, that's an op
ed piece. It's not a journalism

2255
02:16:49,110 --> 02:16:52,560
article. And so, you know, this
isn't something that I would

2256
02:16:52,560 --> 02:16:56,490
consider a reputable source for
discussing climate change.

2257
02:16:56,670 --> 02:16:59,580
Well, you know, he but the
scientists, though he cited

2258
02:16:59,580 --> 02:17:02,760
there, they were obviously
commenting on the Op Ed piece,

2259
02:17:02,760 --> 02:17:05,070
they were just mainly stating
their data, their their

2260
02:17:05,070 --> 02:17:07,950
scientific research, or feeding
their research.

2261
02:17:08,309 --> 02:17:11,189
Well, he actually referenced
newspaper articles that

2262
02:17:11,189 --> 02:17:14,429
reference those scientists. So
you know, if you really want to

2263
02:17:14,429 --> 02:17:18,119
understand it, you have to get
to the original sources and look

2264
02:17:18,119 --> 02:17:21,179
at those, you know, like I say,
it's, if you if you're really

2265
02:17:21,179 --> 02:17:24,599
doing studies on this, like my
students would, for example,

2266
02:17:24,749 --> 02:17:26,879
that would not be a good source
to look at. Yeah,

2267
02:17:26,879 --> 02:17:29,729
okay. All right. Good. So it's
the wrong source wrong.

2268
02:17:29,729 --> 02:17:30,419
Scientists,

2269
02:17:30,450 --> 02:17:34,050
obviously. Yeah, his students
would know better as kids

2270
02:17:34,080 --> 02:17:39,480
students would know that. Forbes
is an idiot. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I

2271
02:17:39,480 --> 02:17:41,730
was good. i That's exactly the
way to do it. You discredit the

2272
02:17:41,730 --> 02:17:44,460
source, right? You cut it off,
and then you cut them off at the

2273
02:17:44,460 --> 02:17:45,120
knees.

2274
02:17:45,150 --> 02:17:49,260
Perfect. And yeah, and I do want
to say about this whole thing in

2275
02:17:49,260 --> 02:17:53,430
the UK. This is not unexpected.
What is happening there. And so

2276
02:17:53,460 --> 02:17:57,240
you these guys can say a million
times is all freakish and whoa,

2277
02:17:57,240 --> 02:18:01,470
who knows? But in 2014 there
before Yeah. I remember when

2278
02:18:01,470 --> 02:18:04,170
Britain used to people would
highlight the are the A and the

2279
02:18:04,170 --> 02:18:06,870
i in the end of Britain, it
would always rain. It was just

2280
02:18:06,900 --> 02:18:10,140
in the 70s like you go into
Britain, rains ever hear of

2281
02:18:10,140 --> 02:18:15,450
London fog. It used to be the
wettest place on earth the way I

2282
02:18:15,450 --> 02:18:21,300
remember it. Yeah, but I had
this great article about

2283
02:18:21,360 --> 02:18:27,720
European Union policy introduced
by the 2007 directive from the

2284
02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:31,500
Environment Agency, which is I
think, introduced but published

2285
02:18:31,560 --> 02:18:35,490
fully in 2008 which then sought
to increase the frequency of

2286
02:18:35,490 --> 02:18:41,100
flooding in this exact area.
They knew this was coming they

2287
02:18:41,100 --> 02:18:43,920
knew that they could either make
space for water this is all

2288
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:49,050
agenda 21 stuff by the way of
all of this, all of this this

2289
02:18:49,110 --> 02:18:53,250
luda cracy of not building up
resistance to this area. The

2290
02:18:53,250 --> 02:18:56,310
whole point is to have these
homes washed away. I'm quite

2291
02:18:56,310 --> 02:19:01,320
convinced about it when you read
this article, and you see how

2292
02:19:01,320 --> 02:19:06,000
this this this area of the UK
was really meant to be managed

2293
02:19:06,000 --> 02:19:10,290
to flood and all the
documentation points towards it.

2294
02:19:10,290 --> 02:19:12,630
And now all of a sudden, where
people are bitching and moaning

2295
02:19:12,810 --> 02:19:15,870
that bring in the Dutch who are
just pumping it out with their

2296
02:19:15,900 --> 02:19:18,480
you know, this is what the Dutch
should do very well. And oh,

2297
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:22,620
yeah, maybe we should, you know,
put some strategy in place. But

2298
02:19:22,620 --> 02:19:25,920
this is not unexpected. This
This has been known since you

2299
02:19:25,920 --> 02:19:29,670
know, almost the mid 2000s that
this this area was going to be

2300
02:19:29,670 --> 02:19:35,520
flooding. And now Cameron just
walks around pretending like

2301
02:19:35,520 --> 02:19:39,750
yeah, oh, whatever. Oh, yes.
We'll help them all out. It's

2302
02:19:39,750 --> 02:19:40,710
very disturbed since

2303
02:19:40,710 --> 02:19:44,550
we don't have we haven't had any
major kind of even though I

2304
02:19:44,550 --> 02:19:50,250
still think there's one coming.
Conflict conflagration In other

2305
02:19:50,250 --> 02:19:55,260
words, World War Two, where you
get to bomb out all this old

2306
02:19:55,260 --> 02:19:57,630
stuff kill a lot of people in
the process, but you get to bomb

2307
02:19:57,630 --> 02:20:00,750
it out and then rebuild this in
a modern you know In modern

2308
02:20:00,750 --> 02:20:04,320
facilities, you gotta You still
got to get rid of some of this

2309
02:20:04,320 --> 02:20:08,190
crap. They mean people crap or
no to you and me. It's not crap.

2310
02:20:08,190 --> 02:20:11,760
It's beautiful stuff that could
be modernised or it's just, but

2311
02:20:11,760 --> 02:20:15,450
no, no, that's not the way
anyone else thinks. Americans

2312
02:20:15,450 --> 02:20:17,610
kind of think like that, because
we don't really have anything

2313
02:20:17,610 --> 02:20:21,060
old, but they have stuff from
the 16 and 1700s that is falling

2314
02:20:21,060 --> 02:20:24,060
apart, they just, but you can't
just tear it down. Many of us

2315
02:20:24,060 --> 02:20:28,320
got special designations.
Exactly. If you got a special

2316
02:20:28,320 --> 02:20:31,860
designation place, you'll start
to hear reports and I've already

2317
02:20:31,860 --> 02:20:33,840
started to hear him I didn't
think about it until he brought

2318
02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:37,650
this theory up, that you start
to hear reports Oh, it's such a

2319
02:20:37,650 --> 02:20:42,270
so that was one of the most
famous places there was famous

2320
02:20:42,270 --> 02:20:46,620
and it was it was protected. And
now it's washed away. What are

2321
02:20:46,620 --> 02:20:51,390
we gonna do? Yeah, have you
noticed this? Yeah. Yeah, that'd

2322
02:20:51,390 --> 02:20:55,800
be a bunch of famous places that
a ruin washed away gutted. I

2323
02:20:55,800 --> 02:20:58,020
mean, because you you know, in
other parts of the world where

2324
02:20:58,020 --> 02:21:01,380
there's a lot of famous old cool
stuff like Syria, you know, we

2325
02:21:01,380 --> 02:21:03,270
just realise that nobody gives a
crap

2326
02:21:03,780 --> 02:21:07,830
oh, the best part was Iraq when
we we the Sumerian tablets and

2327
02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:09,120
all that today, what does this

2328
02:21:09,150 --> 02:21:11,610
clay What is this crap?

2329
02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:15,390
Is this is Clay just time to
clean up kids

2330
02:21:15,390 --> 02:21:20,550
sweep up the clay shards people
this is no good. And the crazy

2331
02:21:20,550 --> 02:21:24,390
thing is that this is what is
happening right now. This this

2332
02:21:24,420 --> 02:21:28,920
global warming making it very
cold is pretty much the exact

2333
02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:32,550
script for the day after
tomorrow. You remember this? Oh,

2334
02:21:32,550 --> 02:21:35,370
I noticed that this movie was
this was this one was this was

2335
02:21:35,370 --> 02:21:38,490
this 2003 or four? I think this
this movie came out and let's

2336
02:21:38,490 --> 02:21:41,670
look it up. And the whole idea
was you had this professor and

2337
02:21:41,670 --> 02:21:44,100
he went to the United Nations.
He said, I'll be here because

2338
02:21:44,100 --> 02:21:48,030
the polar ice is melting. We're
going to freeze down here. And

2339
02:21:48,030 --> 02:21:49,200
everyone laughs at him.

2340
02:21:51,540 --> 02:21:56,910
2004 Okay. It's pretty much 10
years ago. Yeah. Hey, 10 years

2341
02:21:56,910 --> 02:21:58,740
have passed. Let's go with this
script. Yeah.

2342
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:02,160
I think not. Exactly.

2343
02:22:03,780 --> 02:22:04,530
It is the

2344
02:22:04,590 --> 02:22:08,430
it is this is this story. It is
exactly my story.

2345
02:22:08,580 --> 02:22:12,720
So if we do not see Grand
Central Station under 500 feet

2346
02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:13,560
of ice.

2347
02:22:14,880 --> 02:22:17,310
That's okay. Not yet, but
standby.

2348
02:22:18,119 --> 02:22:21,389
I'm going to show my mood by
donating to no agenda. Imagine

2349
02:22:21,389 --> 02:22:24,089
all the people who could do
that. Oh yeah, that'd be fine.

2350
02:22:32,190 --> 02:22:36,990
We do have a few people to thank
and let's begin with Van Klich

2351
02:22:37,020 --> 02:22:43,980
Gah. Klitschko, not Klitschko
Klitschko, Vaughn Tichka. And in

2352
02:22:43,980 --> 02:22:47,970
Salem, Oregon, for under 50
bucks and does have a note I'll

2353
02:22:47,970 --> 02:22:54,180
read it in its entirety. Thumbs
up. Road Wolfin north to one

2354
02:22:54,270 --> 02:23:01,110
Tonawanda New York $111.11 And
he wants Naomi on the stage

2355
02:23:01,110 --> 02:23:03,780
we'll bring her out when we do
the next when we open reopen the

2356
02:23:03,780 --> 02:23:06,420
club which is down for repairs
by the way

2357
02:23:06,480 --> 02:23:09,090
oh when is when is it expected
to open up again club?

2358
02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:12,780
I don't know. You know, this DJ
thing fell over because it's

2359
02:23:12,780 --> 02:23:16,800
poorly constructed. We had some
Chinese guys come in from and

2360
02:23:16,800 --> 02:23:19,560
that welds didn't hold and the
whole thing fell apart. And now

2361
02:23:19,560 --> 02:23:21,300
we got to rebuild it with
American labour.

2362
02:23:21,330 --> 02:23:24,450
Oh, that'll be expensive. Dot
Yeah.

2363
02:23:25,650 --> 02:23:27,660
There's nobody that can really
do that job anymore. Dean

2364
02:23:27,660 --> 02:23:32,160
Weisner in Lubbock, Texas
$111.11 He says it's time to

2365
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:35,220
show a little Valentine's Day
love to the best podcast in the

2366
02:23:35,220 --> 02:23:39,870
universe. Thank you and don't
give him his get to 110 you want

2367
02:23:39,870 --> 02:23:42,660
to give him my relationship
karma on the fly here.

2368
02:23:43,140 --> 02:23:45,720
Oh, for his possible future
girlfriend Meghan.

2369
02:23:47,130 --> 02:23:51,420
Really? helped me put that
sounds like it. You've got

2370
02:23:51,570 --> 02:23:52,920
karma. Okay.

2371
02:23:55,170 --> 02:23:59,250
All right. Jim Zuko in Los
Angeles, California. $100. You

2372
02:23:59,250 --> 02:24:03,930
guys are the best Cheryl Draper
$100 from Draper, Utah. She must

2373
02:24:03,930 --> 02:24:08,460
own the town. Sherry is Sherry
Draper. Sorry, Sherry. Rick

2374
02:24:08,460 --> 02:24:11,700
Olson and elenberg Washington.
$100. So Hunter,

2375
02:24:11,940 --> 02:24:15,090
I'm sorry. We just need to break
for one second. Sherry Draper.

2376
02:24:15,090 --> 02:24:19,680
You know who she is now. And you
know, she's the she is the

2377
02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:21,060
rainstick goddess.

2378
02:24:21,570 --> 02:24:25,290
Oh, she started with rainstick
woman. Yeah, yes. Oh, yeah.

2379
02:24:25,290 --> 02:24:27,720
Shake away. She says rainstick
Sherry,

2380
02:24:27,750 --> 02:24:29,940
she wants a de douching and so
I'm sorry. I

2381
02:24:29,940 --> 02:24:33,360
don't remember. Yeah, yeah, I'm
sorry. I screwed that I want to

2382
02:24:33,360 --> 02:24:33,660
do

2383
02:24:33,660 --> 02:24:35,010
sure and give her the area that

2384
02:24:37,290 --> 02:24:39,030
you've been de Deus.

2385
02:24:39,420 --> 02:24:43,800
Well, Carrie, you You truly are
the magician because it's

2386
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:48,090
because of you California now
has rain. And unfortunately,

2387
02:24:48,090 --> 02:24:52,170
it's true due to our poor
skills. We were a little rusty.

2388
02:24:52,320 --> 02:24:54,330
We flooded island but I'm sorry.

2389
02:24:56,760 --> 02:25:00,870
Yeah, sorry, sorry. Rick Olson
Ellenberg wash. intent I have a

2390
02:25:00,870 --> 02:25:03,960
note but it's just says Hi we're
doing a great job and you really

2391
02:25:03,960 --> 02:25:08,490
appreciate the show Hunter poles
MA in Brunswick Victoria

2392
02:25:08,490 --> 02:25:15,900
Australia at James sharer in
Spearfish, South Dakota 75

2393
02:25:16,470 --> 02:25:25,080
Armando gara thanks was 16 I was
16 This is This is

2394
02:25:25,380 --> 02:25:26,910
Armando the mail carrier.

2395
02:25:28,020 --> 02:25:29,640
Oh you're Armando is

2396
02:25:29,640 --> 02:25:30,390
he's in Buda.

2397
02:25:31,770 --> 02:25:35,700
Yeah, that's nice. It's
beautiful. Did you call him on

2398
02:25:35,700 --> 02:25:37,170
that thing he left in your box
and

2399
02:25:38,100 --> 02:25:40,380
I think we saw on the other day
and we stopped for a quick chat

2400
02:25:40,380 --> 02:25:43,320
and then as we were driving off
like completely forgot to ask

2401
02:25:43,320 --> 02:25:47,220
him if he did the Hillary hit. I
don't know he's a mysterious

2402
02:25:47,220 --> 02:25:50,580
guy. I don't know Armando is
mysterious, I think is but some

2403
02:25:50,580 --> 02:25:52,320
things just best left unsaid.

2404
02:25:53,730 --> 02:25:58,200
Dennis Cruz in Beaverton, Oregon
69 Six, yeah, these. These are

2405
02:25:58,200 --> 02:26:02,100
all 6960 nines. And we'll give
them a comma at the end, Alan

2406
02:26:02,100 --> 02:26:05,850
smelling in Cranston Rhode
Island Steven Pels. mockers his

2407
02:26:05,850 --> 02:26:10,770
back was 6969 I think the the
Grand Duke are only one and only

2408
02:26:10,770 --> 02:26:11,490
Grand Duke

2409
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:14,520
doesn't I think regardless of
donation amount he always gets

2410
02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:15,480
his jingle so

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02:26:19,590 --> 02:26:27,180
please be outstanding Thank you.
Thank you, sir.

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02:26:27,180 --> 02:26:30,030
Can we do a movie we have to
always read his note as he says

2413
02:26:30,030 --> 02:26:32,550
ITM gentlemen Valentine's Day
seems to be a good day as any

2414
02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:35,040
das for Swaziland of karma for
all the producers of the best

2415
02:26:35,040 --> 02:26:36,540
podcast in the universe.
Alright,

2416
02:26:36,570 --> 02:26:38,460
that's fine. Everyone will get
some

2417
02:26:40,980 --> 02:26:46,440
I imagination Auckland, New
Zealand. Max Windham in The

2418
02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:47,580
Woodlands, Texas.

2419
02:26:50,490 --> 02:26:52,470
Have no idea where the woodlands
is.

2420
02:26:52,650 --> 02:26:56,400
Well, there's probably some
trees there. Michelle Holman in

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02:26:56,430 --> 02:27:03,540
Novi, Michigan. 69.00 Victor
person $60 And Rona B, Sweden.

2422
02:27:03,630 --> 02:27:08,250
First time donor. A Josh
MacDonald, Brunswick, Victoria,

2423
02:27:08,550 --> 02:27:15,300
Australia and other people up
there. Sorry, Chris Lewinsky are

2424
02:27:15,300 --> 02:27:17,460
all but in Sherwood Park,
Alberta where all the money is

2425
02:27:17,460 --> 02:27:23,280
$50 Philip Mason these are all
50 Welshpool pounds in the UK

2426
02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:24,150
that finally

2427
02:27:24,510 --> 02:27:26,970
Mason as well. Pretty soon
sorry,

2428
02:27:28,350 --> 02:27:31,740
who commonly sends us long notes
to lecture us about the way we

2429
02:27:31,740 --> 02:27:38,070
should treat the Christians?
Okay, yeah. And we pay we read

2430
02:27:38,070 --> 02:27:43,710
everything anyone says this. And
Philip is is very, very smart

2431
02:27:43,710 --> 02:27:47,250
guy vocal. Beverly Tanner,
Whittier, California is our last

2432
02:27:47,250 --> 02:27:52,560
donor for today's show. 592 in
order to remind people to go to

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02:27:52,560 --> 02:27:58,140
divorce.org/n A for 593. She has
a interesting number, I guess.

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02:27:58,140 --> 02:28:02,700
But because there's take two,
five and a three and add them

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02:28:02,700 --> 02:28:09,510
together, you get one number
less than nine. Wow. It's the

2436
02:28:09,510 --> 02:28:10,140
best I could do.

2437
02:28:10,800 --> 02:28:14,040
That's an error. It's an
uninteresting number. The good

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02:28:14,040 --> 02:28:18,210
news is it's only seven episodes
away from the big 600 We have

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02:28:18,210 --> 02:28:22,890
this special producer, big 600
Club. But really anything you

2440
02:28:22,890 --> 02:28:27,660
can help us with is appreciated
at any level. And also your

2441
02:28:27,660 --> 02:28:31,080
information is highly
appreciated. The feedback is the

2442
02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:36,360
feedback loop is is it's
intensified it really has a lot

2443
02:28:36,360 --> 02:28:40,320
of great information coming in
on all fronts. And that is

2444
02:28:40,320 --> 02:28:43,560
appreciated. Thank you very much
for being producers. Our

2445
02:28:43,560 --> 02:28:46,230
executive and Associate
Executive producers and super

2446
02:28:46,380 --> 02:28:48,720
notes especially executive
producers all got the credits on

2447
02:28:48,720 --> 02:28:51,750
the homepage on the show notes
page. And of course we

2448
02:28:51,750 --> 02:28:54,690
appreciate all other donations
as well the $5 a month it all

2449
02:28:54,690 --> 02:28:58,260
makes a difference the 1111 The
30 threes, it is appreciated

2450
02:28:58,260 --> 02:29:02,340
thank you very much for.org/and
A

2451
02:29:09,390 --> 02:29:12,990
here's what I got. I got Hunter
pools monitoring 22 on the 11th

2452
02:29:12,990 --> 02:29:16,260
and Britton Johnson who wants to
congratulate Thorin who

2453
02:29:16,260 --> 02:29:20,220
celebrated on Valentine's Day
The 14th Happy Birthday familiar

2454
02:29:20,220 --> 02:29:25,560
friends he had the best podcast
in the universe and I'm even

2455
02:29:25,560 --> 02:29:28,890
though it didn't quite show up
on the spreadsheet as such, I'm

2456
02:29:28,890 --> 02:29:33,090
just going to presume that a
grant signer and the crop

2457
02:29:33,090 --> 02:29:36,540
brothers have their accounting
in order John so I know if

2458
02:29:36,540 --> 02:29:38,130
that's okay with you I just like
to do the night and

2459
02:29:38,820 --> 02:29:41,370
take their word for it. We don't
we have yet to see the criminal

2460
02:29:41,400 --> 02:29:42,870
element amongst our producers.

2461
02:29:43,170 --> 02:29:47,820
By the way the crowd brothers, I
think we can elevate them to be

2462
02:29:47,820 --> 02:29:49,110
the new Koch brothers.

2463
02:29:51,690 --> 02:29:53,280
Unlike the idea because it

2464
02:29:53,280 --> 02:29:56,550
really the Koch brothers is just
a meme. No, no Yes,

2465
02:29:56,580 --> 02:29:58,530
they don't. What do they do?
They actually most of their

2466
02:29:58,530 --> 02:30:01,560
money goes to operations like
PBS ironically,

2467
02:30:01,590 --> 02:30:04,050
yeah, and if the Koch brothers
are walking down the street, no

2468
02:30:04,050 --> 02:30:06,480
one would recognise them. So why
don't we just pretend the crap

2469
02:30:06,480 --> 02:30:10,980
brothers are our Koch brothers?
Okay, they're evil. And they're

2470
02:30:10,980 --> 02:30:14,820
funding evil crowd. Crowd
brothers. Yes. And they're

2471
02:30:14,820 --> 02:30:24,930
funding our our anti science
agenda. Yes, yes. All right,

2472
02:30:24,930 --> 02:30:27,480
grab your blade John, because we
got two of these guys to

2473
02:30:27,510 --> 02:30:30,750
tonight. So there you go.
Perfect. All right, crap brother

2474
02:30:30,750 --> 02:30:35,580
stepped forward, both of you and
grant signer. All three of you

2475
02:30:35,580 --> 02:30:39,810
have really supported the no
agenda show best podcast in the

2476
02:30:39,810 --> 02:30:43,020
universe. And we appreciate that
and welcome you to the night and

2477
02:30:43,020 --> 02:30:46,710
Dane roundtable. I hereby
pronounce the source plant

2478
02:30:46,710 --> 02:30:51,210
signer and certain nights of at
night and bluegrass the evil

2479
02:30:51,210 --> 02:30:54,900
crown brothers all of you here
the no agenda roundtable for

2480
02:30:54,900 --> 02:30:58,470
you. Red boys in Chardon, a
Cuban cigars and single mouth

2481
02:30:58,470 --> 02:31:02,580
shots, hot pans and booze long
had heavy metal guys and whiskey

2482
02:31:02,580 --> 02:31:06,390
and sparkling sparkling cider
escorts mutton and meat. I've

2483
02:31:06,390 --> 02:31:10,740
had too much of it. The bong
hits in bourbon must be working

2484
02:31:10,740 --> 02:31:15,840
on me. I go to Northern
nation.com/rings. And of course,

2485
02:31:16,020 --> 02:31:19,830
the evil crowd brothers will
each receive a ring, obviously.

2486
02:31:20,670 --> 02:31:23,430
Since they're in this together.
Did you get a note from them? By

2487
02:31:23,430 --> 02:31:28,530
the way about the bread? What
bread? Okay, one of them? Isn't

2488
02:31:28,530 --> 02:31:29,160
the bread business

2489
02:31:29,160 --> 02:31:30,270
gonna send you bread?

2490
02:31:30,960 --> 02:31:33,270
Yeah, they offered you to

2491
02:31:34,830 --> 02:31:38,100
see the note about bread. They
make bread to bread makers. One

2492
02:31:38,100 --> 02:31:39,120
of them's a bread guy.

2493
02:31:39,630 --> 02:31:42,780
I don't think he's like a
commercial bread guy. Like big

2494
02:31:42,780 --> 02:31:45,120
bread guy. Big bread,

2495
02:31:45,150 --> 02:31:48,810
I think big. Like a big, like
big data. Only big bread,

2496
02:31:48,840 --> 02:31:54,510
big data, big bread. Yeah. So it
makes like, like balloon bread

2497
02:31:54,510 --> 02:31:56,010
and those sorts of things. It's
the mercial,

2498
02:31:56,040 --> 02:31:59,790
the evil crowd brothers and
their bread Empire are funding

2499
02:31:59,820 --> 02:32:02,250
our funding our fossil fuel
agenda.

2500
02:32:04,290 --> 02:32:08,430
Obviously, we're, obviously
we're all in stages for the

2501
02:32:08,460 --> 02:32:11,820
fossil fuel industry. That's why
we're so only promoted as

2502
02:32:11,850 --> 02:32:14,730
nuclear. But that's beside the
point. Hey, told

2503
02:32:14,730 --> 02:32:18,900
me about in the newsletter, you
wrote something about the unions

2504
02:32:18,900 --> 02:32:21,420
and the wages and the minimum
wage, and you're going to bring

2505
02:32:21,420 --> 02:32:24,810
that up on the show today. So
I'm reminding you to do this.

2506
02:32:25,800 --> 02:32:31,290
That's your fantastic setup. You
didn't like? That's okay. No, I

2507
02:32:31,290 --> 02:32:33,450
would I thought one of the news
items of the week that we didn't

2508
02:32:33,480 --> 02:32:36,270
discuss much I mean, especially
when you compare it to play this

2509
02:32:36,270 --> 02:32:39,390
clip because it compares the way
unions go in the United States

2510
02:32:39,390 --> 02:32:43,440
of America with the way they go
in France play Uber in France

2511
02:32:43,500 --> 02:32:44,310
and karaoke.

2512
02:32:44,820 --> 02:32:48,450
Taxi drivers in France may have
won their first fight and a long

2513
02:32:48,450 --> 02:32:52,020
fight battle. The government has
suspended new registrations for

2514
02:32:52,020 --> 02:32:56,040
private chauffeur services like
Uber. Parents made the decision

2515
02:32:56,040 --> 02:32:59,010
until it finishes talks with
unions representing taxi

2516
02:32:59,010 --> 02:33:02,520
drivers, who have been striking
since Monday. The crucial

2517
02:33:02,520 --> 02:33:06,090
stumbling block is taxis require
a licence that cost more than

2518
02:33:06,090 --> 02:33:09,870
200,000 euros while private
competitors have no fee.

2519
02:33:11,790 --> 02:33:13,950
She had a little flub in there
by the way that was interesting.

2520
02:33:13,950 --> 02:33:16,020
I think it's under weird flub,
can you play that?

2521
02:33:19,140 --> 02:33:22,770
Taxi drivers in France may have
won their first fight and a long

2522
02:33:22,770 --> 02:33:23,970
fight battle to

2523
02:33:25,020 --> 02:33:26,940
fight fight battle thing

2524
02:33:27,180 --> 02:33:30,240
is like neuro linguistic
programming but probably just a

2525
02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:31,680
flub. I did follow.

2526
02:33:32,940 --> 02:33:37,320
I signed up for Uber. I got the
app I've never use the service

2527
02:33:37,560 --> 02:33:38,610
but the me see

2528
02:33:38,700 --> 02:33:41,430
buzzkill Jr. uses it daily. So I

2529
02:33:42,150 --> 02:33:44,910
I got the app and then
immediately I'm getting spam

2530
02:33:44,910 --> 02:33:50,370
from them and news articles and
and I did read about I think a

2531
02:33:50,370 --> 02:33:53,250
cab driver beat up an Uber
driver or something this

2532
02:33:53,250 --> 02:33:56,490
happened weeks ago. This is not
fresh. Okay. All right.

2533
02:33:57,420 --> 02:33:59,310
I think it may have been the
lift guys though, because the

2534
02:33:59,310 --> 02:34:02,400
lift guys go around with that
big pink moustache on their car.

2535
02:34:03,120 --> 02:34:06,390
And they are slightly different.
They're more visible and they

2536
02:34:06,390 --> 02:34:09,630
get harassed more because of the
big pink moustache. But as part

2537
02:34:09,630 --> 02:34:12,900
of the end this, it's a
different system. When you go on

2538
02:34:12,900 --> 02:34:15,540
Lyft I wrote a column about this
because I was fascinated by it,

2539
02:34:15,540 --> 02:34:18,780
because JC uses it. But when you
go on Lyft you have to be a

2540
02:34:18,780 --> 02:34:20,910
conversationalist. In the end,
you end the

2541
02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:24,240
drivers back up. But Lyft is an
Uber like service because I have

2542
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:25,770
no idea what you're talking
about. I think

2543
02:34:25,800 --> 02:34:29,010
I think it was I think it might
even predate Uber Ubers, a

2544
02:34:29,010 --> 02:34:31,500
little more polished, a little
more venture capital A little

2545
02:34:31,500 --> 02:34:35,100
slicker, a little better cars.
Lyft is really pretty much

2546
02:34:35,100 --> 02:34:40,110
anybody. And and it has a
different model. And you pay,

2547
02:34:40,410 --> 02:34:42,720
you don't pay a fixed amount you
pay what you think the guy

2548
02:34:42,720 --> 02:34:47,190
deserves. Oh value value is
value for value. And so what

2549
02:34:47,190 --> 02:34:51,660
happens though, is that the Lyft
drivers, and you rate each other

2550
02:34:51,930 --> 02:34:55,710
after the ride is over this.
That's the lictors rate you as a

2551
02:34:55,710 --> 02:34:56,280
customer

2552
02:34:56,369 --> 02:34:59,249
I believe in this is the
pressure. Yeah, no, this is the

2553
02:34:59,249 --> 02:35:03,089
future puking My car smelled
like crap, you know, annoying.

2554
02:35:03,449 --> 02:35:04,229
Talk to me.

2555
02:35:04,770 --> 02:35:07,830
You like you rate each other
before you receive each other's

2556
02:35:07,830 --> 02:35:13,140
ratings too. So you can lowball
the guy and so he'll say that

2557
02:35:13,140 --> 02:35:16,770
you just guy stinks and he's you
know, or whatever that you as

2558
02:35:16,770 --> 02:35:19,140
the customer or that you can say
that guy's car was a piece of

2559
02:35:19,140 --> 02:35:22,590
crap and I would never be in it
again, I get one star and it

2560
02:35:22,590 --> 02:35:25,260
would you but you can get
blackballed. You can as a driver

2561
02:35:25,260 --> 02:35:27,750
get blackballed with too many of
these, you know, negative

2562
02:35:27,750 --> 02:35:32,070
reviews and you can also get
blackballed as a passenger is

2563
02:35:32,070 --> 02:35:35,310
very interesting and more like a
slightly more advanced in some

2564
02:35:35,310 --> 02:35:38,550
ways, but Uber is more popular
is trying to go all over the

2565
02:35:38,550 --> 02:35:40,620
world. So they go to France and
of course, they this is where

2566
02:35:40,620 --> 02:35:43,050
you will get beat up because the
French have these great remedies

2567
02:35:43,050 --> 02:35:45,750
unions in France. These taxi
drivers didn't just go on

2568
02:35:45,750 --> 02:35:48,630
strike, they went out to the
main freeways and just you know,

2569
02:35:48,630 --> 02:35:53,820
five across just stopped dead
right? 100 deep. Yeah. Yeah,

2570
02:35:53,880 --> 02:35:57,540
well, the French we don't do
don't do that. We are so anti

2571
02:35:57,540 --> 02:36:00,840
Union now in this country. And I
was thinking about it because

2572
02:36:00,840 --> 02:36:04,440
they had this VW plant that
tried to go UAW and the UAW is a

2573
02:36:04,440 --> 02:36:07,350
dying Union. It was a member of
that union and at least two

2574
02:36:07,350 --> 02:36:08,310
different local let's

2575
02:36:08,310 --> 02:36:10,950
let's talk about what actually
happened. So just set this up

2576
02:36:10,950 --> 02:36:15,630
for people around the world. So
the the United Auto Workers

2577
02:36:15,630 --> 02:36:20,640
Union wanted to Unionise at the
Volkswagen plant in

2578
02:36:21,720 --> 02:36:25,260
Charlotte, I think North Korea,
North Carolina or Arkansas, I

2579
02:36:25,260 --> 02:36:27,990
can't remember exactly where
what happens is in the south,

2580
02:36:27,990 --> 02:36:33,090
where they're generally anti
union, okay. And they voted,

2581
02:36:33,390 --> 02:36:35,520
they thought it were going to
win and without a lot of real

2582
02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:39,090
pressure, just not make the vote
no, they voted no anyway. And

2583
02:36:39,090 --> 02:36:41,640
that was the end of it, because
the UAW has been trying to get

2584
02:36:41,640 --> 02:36:46,770
all these, these so called their
companies that come in from

2585
02:36:46,770 --> 02:36:49,140
like, Volkswagen comes in and
builds a factory because it's

2586
02:36:49,140 --> 02:36:53,190
cheaper. And Honda's got
factories down there. Toyotas

2587
02:36:53,190 --> 02:36:56,730
got factories, and so the these
import cars that you buy in the

2588
02:36:56,730 --> 02:36:59,520
United States generally aren't
really imported. The only thing

2589
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:04,950
imported is the factory. Well,
the way I see it is that I've

2590
02:37:04,950 --> 02:37:07,290
come to the conclusion, the only
reason I wanted to bring this up

2591
02:37:07,290 --> 02:37:09,690
was I think that unions have
outlived their usefulness in

2592
02:37:09,690 --> 02:37:12,000
this country, I think they
worked fine and socialist

2593
02:37:12,060 --> 02:37:14,400
oriented company that countries
like France, where people

2594
02:37:14,400 --> 02:37:17,370
actually get a job as a taxi
driver take it very seriously.

2595
02:37:17,490 --> 02:37:20,220
They spent $200,000 for a
licence, and they do this for

2596
02:37:20,220 --> 02:37:22,860
the rest of their lives. They're
not trying to be you know, in

2597
02:37:22,860 --> 02:37:25,290
the United States, we're all
thing I, I'm going to quit and

2598
02:37:25,290 --> 02:37:28,380
get get some financing from
venture capital, I'm going to

2599
02:37:28,380 --> 02:37:32,760
start myself a mud pie company.
Yeah, we have all these, you

2600
02:37:32,760 --> 02:37:36,570
know, these outrageous dreams
that have been kept alive by the

2601
02:37:36,570 --> 02:37:40,860
Bs in the media. So I think the
only I think the future for

2602
02:37:40,860 --> 02:37:44,130
unions in the United States is
over, I think they're all dead.

2603
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:46,980
And I think that the model is
actually the syllabus for

2604
02:37:47,010 --> 02:37:52,620
success in terms of worker
participation. And so far as by

2605
02:37:52,620 --> 02:37:56,550
participation, I mean, have some
thing to do with you, whether

2606
02:37:56,550 --> 02:37:58,680
you like working or whether
you're, you know, you have a job

2607
02:37:58,680 --> 02:38:03,510
and you're being mismanaged by
people. How do you deal with it?

2608
02:38:04,020 --> 02:38:08,430
If there's no union? I think the
model in Silicon Valley, which

2609
02:38:08,430 --> 02:38:11,880
is to just give you a piece of
the company, so you're, you're

2610
02:38:11,880 --> 02:38:14,220
essentially read into the
company, and if he had

2611
02:38:14,220 --> 02:38:17,070
mismanaged you can you have some
sort of recourse as a part

2612
02:38:17,070 --> 02:38:21,000
owner, I think that's totally
the future. Because the results

2613
02:38:21,000 --> 02:38:23,400
of that model, that Silicon
Valley model where everybody

2614
02:38:23,400 --> 02:38:28,440
gets a piece of the action, has
people working 16 hours a day,

2615
02:38:28,650 --> 02:38:32,400
it's rageous, because of the the
carrot at the end of the stick,

2616
02:38:32,400 --> 02:38:35,820
and that's just seems like the
future in such a in so many

2617
02:38:35,820 --> 02:38:37,980
ways. I just I've never seen
anything work like that, that

2618
02:38:37,980 --> 02:38:43,710
works so well. And you're part
of that system. I am. Well, you

2619
02:38:43,710 --> 02:38:46,230
were in startups, and you've
seen these guys kill themselves,

2620
02:38:46,470 --> 02:38:49,170
you know, on the frontlines for
them. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah.

2621
02:38:49,230 --> 02:38:52,860
Yeah. Well, so. So yes, I agree
to a certain extent, I think the

2622
02:38:52,860 --> 02:38:58,920
startup culture, which is a
Ponzi scheme, and you are of

2623
02:38:58,920 --> 02:39:03,000
course you're projecting you're
on your own family so you see

2624
02:39:03,000 --> 02:39:07,500
buzzkill Jr, busting his ass 20
hours of 16 hours a day. And

2625
02:39:07,500 --> 02:39:12,810
yes, he's in a startup so he has
a piece of the Ponzi scheme but

2626
02:39:12,810 --> 02:39:17,610
once the once this this level
moves up, I either bought by

2627
02:39:17,610 --> 02:39:21,390
somebody which would usually be
a Google that's pretty much what

2628
02:39:21,390 --> 02:39:24,450
everyone's looking for. And
that's what the angel investors

2629
02:39:24,450 --> 02:39:28,590
and even the a round investors
get in for is for that big pop.

2630
02:39:29,190 --> 02:39:33,930
Everyone after that is slave but
but get slave wages and you get

2631
02:39:33,930 --> 02:39:40,080
this big promise of options.
Yes, take these options,

2632
02:39:40,080 --> 02:39:43,110
there'll be worth something
someday. And when you leave, you

2633
02:39:43,110 --> 02:39:48,960
got to buy them. So it's a Ponzi
scheme and a scam. And I

2634
02:39:48,960 --> 02:39:53,280
actually like what you were
talking about the lift model

2635
02:39:53,970 --> 02:39:57,300
that I believe is the future.
The problem with with all these

2636
02:39:57,300 --> 02:40:01,290
companies is the company itself
who Wouldn't some like it's the

2637
02:40:01,290 --> 02:40:05,460
same with Patreon, this value
for value for the arts,

2638
02:40:05,790 --> 02:40:08,460
everything about it is right,
except for the fact that there's

2639
02:40:08,460 --> 02:40:11,070
a company in the middle. That's
the one thing that is

2640
02:40:11,070 --> 02:40:13,470
unnecessary. So I say that
again, that everything is right.

2641
02:40:13,470 --> 02:40:16,410
But what except for the company
that's running the service,

2642
02:40:17,400 --> 02:40:21,210
there's no reason we have to
have companies that are going to

2643
02:40:21,210 --> 02:40:26,730
take all this money and create
them and essentially, take the

2644
02:40:26,730 --> 02:40:31,770
value to enrich themselves.
There's no reason if you run it,

2645
02:40:31,770 --> 02:40:34,950
like a co op, where it really
what do you what do you need,

2646
02:40:35,340 --> 02:40:37,620
and when it comes to
infrastructure to run Uber,

2647
02:40:38,070 --> 02:40:42,360
really, it's, you know, it's
server infrastructure, that's a

2648
02:40:42,360 --> 02:40:46,890
co op thing. But instead, they
are, they're creating all the

2649
02:40:46,890 --> 02:40:51,240
value and keeping that for
themselves. I love the mutual

2650
02:40:53,100 --> 02:40:58,140
reputation systems. And there
will not be a single person who

2651
02:40:58,140 --> 02:41:01,830
doesn't buy a car in the future,
that well, there will be people

2652
02:41:01,830 --> 02:41:04,860
but I'm pretty sure you and I,
John will buy cars based upon

2653
02:41:04,860 --> 02:41:07,590
the model that this thing is
sitting there 70% of the time,

2654
02:41:07,770 --> 02:41:11,280
and I'd be happy for people to
use my car and pay me for it. As

2655
02:41:11,280 --> 02:41:13,620
long as I knew who know who they
are, and I can check up on the

2656
02:41:13,620 --> 02:41:17,190
reputation system. But that
doesn't this whole idea that

2657
02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:20,010
that has to be accompany every
single time that's monetizing

2658
02:41:20,010 --> 02:41:22,800
the network. And it's proven
time and time again. It's

2659
02:41:22,800 --> 02:41:27,000
limited. And it works great for
the big scams, you know, the geo

2660
02:41:27,000 --> 02:41:31,500
cities, the AOL cells, the
Facebook's the Twitter's, they

2661
02:41:31,500 --> 02:41:36,540
will go away every single one of
them, you know, my space? Well,

2662
02:41:36,540 --> 02:41:36,990
no, I

2663
02:41:37,020 --> 02:41:41,280
know I'm gonna I can't disagree
with it's just because this is a

2664
02:41:41,280 --> 02:41:46,080
basic thesis of yours that has
never wavered. And I can see

2665
02:41:46,080 --> 02:41:49,770
where you're coming from with
this again. And I have to agree,

2666
02:41:49,770 --> 02:41:52,770
because I think a better example
of that something extremely

2667
02:41:52,770 --> 02:41:58,530
successful, that doesn't really
need any sort of centric,

2668
02:41:59,070 --> 02:42:02,340
corporate entity is LinkedIn.

2669
02:42:03,210 --> 02:42:06,420
LinkedIn, yeah. You Me saying
LinkedIn doesn't really need to

2670
02:42:06,420 --> 02:42:10,230
have a central system or a
central company? No, I

2671
02:42:10,230 --> 02:42:12,540
don't see what I mean, I know
what they're doing. They are the

2672
02:42:12,540 --> 02:42:16,620
ones that created the network,
and they created this. But why I

2673
02:42:16,620 --> 02:42:19,170
mean, why can't that be an open
source thing, just like you're

2674
02:42:19,170 --> 02:42:20,520
describing for everything else?

2675
02:42:20,700 --> 02:42:27,090
Well, and this is why, when you
have a system like RSS that

2676
02:42:27,120 --> 02:42:30,690
these companies set out to
destroy it. This is why Google

2677
02:42:30,840 --> 02:42:34,560
turned off Google Reader.
Because they saw the writing on

2678
02:42:34,560 --> 02:42:38,280
the wall, hold on a second.
Everybody poops an RSS feed out

2679
02:42:38,280 --> 02:42:42,090
of everything these days, we
have to stop this. That is that

2680
02:42:42,090 --> 02:42:46,110
would that could route around us
being the connector. That's

2681
02:42:46,110 --> 02:42:48,780
exactly what that was about.
That's why Twitter doesn't

2682
02:42:48,780 --> 02:42:53,070
support RSS feeds anymore.
That's why Facebook barely they

2683
02:42:53,070 --> 02:42:59,100
had some little support. They
are shunning. But even worse,

2684
02:42:59,100 --> 02:43:03,990
they get their corporate shills,
Mike Arrington, and as all of

2685
02:43:03,990 --> 02:43:09,630
CNET if you Google RSS is dead?
And that because these people

2686
02:43:09,630 --> 02:43:12,690
are maybe even paid? I don't
know, to go out and say, Oh,

2687
02:43:12,690 --> 02:43:16,170
that's dead. Oh, it's all dead?
Of course. So it's a fun thing

2688
02:43:16,170 --> 02:43:17,280
to say in tech land. It's

2689
02:43:17,280 --> 02:43:19,110
dead. Yeah.

2690
02:43:19,590 --> 02:43:24,930
And that was a concerted effort
to kill it. And we will have to

2691
02:43:24,930 --> 02:43:29,490
somehow come up with you know,
whatever we have to do. But the

2692
02:43:29,550 --> 02:43:30,390
gay I

2693
02:43:30,390 --> 02:43:34,050
just went to it. The number one
the RSS is dead. I went just

2694
02:43:34,050 --> 02:43:36,600
Google it into TechCrunch
TechCrunch. As the first two

2695
02:43:36,630 --> 02:43:40,920
articles, RSS is dead question
mark is for percussion.com.

2696
02:43:40,920 --> 02:43:46,980
Never heard of them. Digital
trend has it. But they're

2697
02:43:46,980 --> 02:43:49,260
talking tomorrow about the
Google thing failing and being

2698
02:43:49,260 --> 02:43:52,860
alive didn't fail. Why aren't
matters is the herd. So there's

2699
02:43:52,860 --> 02:43:58,080
some fighting going didn't fail.
It got shut down. I mean, how

2700
02:43:58,080 --> 02:44:00,930
right how can that fail? They
claim that's what that no,

2701
02:44:00,930 --> 02:44:01,980
that's what Google said.

2702
02:44:03,450 --> 02:44:07,140
Right? It failed, unlike what
YouTube is making them so much

2703
02:44:07,140 --> 02:44:13,620
money? No, no, no, no, this is a
concerted effort. And I believe

2704
02:44:13,620 --> 02:44:19,380
eventually, in the long run,
they will not prevail. But as

2705
02:44:19,380 --> 02:44:23,190
you know, but then but as long
as we're teaching children non

2706
02:44:23,190 --> 02:44:28,080
keyboard, shiny touch and swipe
tablet consumption devices.

2707
02:44:28,500 --> 02:44:32,910
Yeah, we're it's going to be
difficult. But I've really

2708
02:44:32,910 --> 02:44:37,380
turned my social network is much
more email now. And somehow the

2709
02:44:37,380 --> 02:44:40,800
idea of hashtags in the subject
line really stuck with people

2710
02:44:41,430 --> 02:44:44,790
that are really using that a
lot. And it was funny

2711
02:44:44,790 --> 02:44:49,290
about that. If you remember when
that first showed up. Twitter

2712
02:44:49,290 --> 02:44:52,650
was dead set against against de
dri. Yeah,

2713
02:44:52,680 --> 02:44:56,730
exactly. Even the retweet RT
even that is it was a user

2714
02:44:56,730 --> 02:45:00,330
developed thing. Right, but I
just looked at my team All right

2715
02:45:00,330 --> 02:45:04,620
now I have number two hashtags
snowed in effect, third email,

2716
02:45:04,620 --> 02:45:09,270
hashtag, Africa hashtag NGO,
then I have six is hashtag

2717
02:45:09,270 --> 02:45:12,030
turkey. So what's happening is
because people are used to the

2718
02:45:12,030 --> 02:45:16,290
idea of a hashtag, I'm finally
getting descriptive subjects in

2719
02:45:16,290 --> 02:45:20,940
my email and emails a beautiful
social network. You know, I can

2720
02:45:20,940 --> 02:45:25,890
block people. I can put them in
the spam bucket, I can auto auto

2721
02:45:25,890 --> 02:45:29,670
reply, I can do all kinds of
really interesting things. Yeah,

2722
02:45:29,670 --> 02:45:33,180
it's it's work. And it's, you
know, there's others. It's a lot

2723
02:45:33,180 --> 02:45:35,760
of it's mixed up, but at least
no one owns me.

2724
02:45:39,720 --> 02:45:42,000
Don't know how we get from there
to you. But you're right. I

2725
02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:45,420
don't know either. Well, there's
a good but it was very well

2726
02:45:45,450 --> 02:45:49,350
done. Whatever happened reserve
segue, somehow, we talked about

2727
02:45:49,350 --> 02:45:53,460
bitching about RSS being not
dead. I have one more thing I

2728
02:45:53,460 --> 02:45:58,770
want to bring up just I thought
was interesting. Okay. This is

2729
02:45:58,770 --> 02:46:02,400
the because as you know, and
most of the listeners have

2730
02:46:02,400 --> 02:46:04,830
listened the show for a while
know that my thinking is that by

2731
02:46:04,830 --> 02:46:10,020
2020, there'll be a civil war in
the EU, which will result in the

2732
02:46:10,020 --> 02:46:13,200
same old same old battle between
Germany and France, you

2733
02:46:13,200 --> 02:46:17,640
mind if we just move that to
2030? Just to propagate our 20

2734
02:46:17,700 --> 02:46:21,330
for the purposes of our gimmick?
Yeah, just just make it 2030.

2735
02:46:21,510 --> 02:46:22,920
And that also gives you a little
bit of room.

2736
02:46:23,730 --> 02:46:26,430
Well, I guess I could say that
it'd be there'll be a skirmish

2737
02:46:26,430 --> 02:46:28,890
in 2020 Because something is
going to happen. And then the

2738
02:46:28,890 --> 02:46:32,280
world wars the big one because
like the First World War was

2739
02:46:32,280 --> 02:46:36,360
just like a opening salvo and
the big 110 years later, you

2740
02:46:36,360 --> 02:46:38,700
know, it happened. Works fine.

2741
02:46:38,700 --> 02:46:41,190
was fine. Okay. 20 by 20 years,
yes.

2742
02:46:42,210 --> 02:46:45,810
German roots of descent. This is
the beginning of the end.

2743
02:46:47,760 --> 02:46:50,550
Is this a clip I'm supposed to
look for? Yeah, it says John.

2744
02:46:51,720 --> 02:46:53,670
I'm sorry. I saw I got it here
gave me

2745
02:46:53,670 --> 02:46:57,210
the name Ana and who didn't want
to be identified. Tell me how

2746
02:46:57,210 --> 02:47:00,480
grateful she is for the help the
food bank provides.

2747
02:47:01,680 --> 02:47:05,070
I have everything here. Eggs,
even fish bread. The little

2748
02:47:05,070 --> 02:47:08,010
things make a big difference.
The money I get from the state

2749
02:47:08,100 --> 02:47:12,150
goes to keep the power on that
most I have 150 euros a month.

2750
02:47:12,810 --> 02:47:15,450
I'm very happy to have this.
Because of this. I can buy

2751
02:47:15,450 --> 02:47:16,350
clothes and live.

2752
02:47:17,250 --> 02:47:21,000
Some of those receiving handouts
accuse Germany's politicians of

2753
02:47:21,000 --> 02:47:24,450
caring more for wider Europe
than the German people

2754
02:47:24,480 --> 02:47:29,070
event of immigrants halfway part
of Europe. We help you Why don't

2755
02:47:29,070 --> 02:47:32,550
you help us? We have hungry
kids. But the government says we

2756
02:47:32,550 --> 02:47:36,030
should help immigrants that take
more of them. We have to close

2757
02:47:36,030 --> 02:47:36,870
the open door.

2758
02:47:37,950 --> 02:47:40,980
Charity organisers say that
they've seen a change in the

2759
02:47:40,980 --> 02:47:44,220
demographic of those coming to
them for help. Doesn't matter.

2760
02:47:44,220 --> 02:47:45,570
My editor mentioned Swanscombe,

2761
02:47:45,570 --> 02:47:48,180
we've noticed an increase of
older people, which is

2762
02:47:48,180 --> 02:47:51,060
unbelievable for us.
Traditionally, old people in

2763
02:47:51,060 --> 02:47:54,270
Germany wouldn't ask for free
food. Now they have no

2764
02:47:54,270 --> 02:47:57,540
alternative. So we see more
people whose need has become

2765
02:47:57,540 --> 02:47:58,860
stronger than shame.

2766
02:48:00,240 --> 02:48:02,280
This is happening everywhere
across Europe.

2767
02:48:02,340 --> 02:48:07,650
Yeah. And this is thanks to Bill
Maher, by the way. Oh, so he's

2768
02:48:07,650 --> 02:48:12,840
just a jerk. So going back this
is the overriding situation in

2769
02:48:12,840 --> 02:48:16,410
Germany is this clip which is
Germans on well, a welfare ended

2770
02:48:16,410 --> 02:48:17,940
the numbers are kind of
interesting.

2771
02:48:19,290 --> 02:48:23,220
Business is booming in Germany.
But under the surface, there's a

2772
02:48:23,220 --> 02:48:27,240
surprising number of people
failing to get anything from it.

2773
02:48:27,510 --> 02:48:29,400
The Harbin but when Sam
Hartsfield says

2774
02:48:29,430 --> 02:48:32,220
we still have 6 million people
on long term unemployment

2775
02:48:32,220 --> 02:48:36,900
benefits. That means almost one
in 10 households live on

2776
02:48:36,900 --> 02:48:38,370
welfare Deutschland.

2777
02:48:38,730 --> 02:48:42,390
In fact, figures from the German
Office of National Statistics

2778
02:48:42,390 --> 02:48:47,430
and Euro stats show that just
over 16% of Germans are at risk

2779
02:48:47,460 --> 02:48:51,930
of falling into poverty. Compare
that to the situation in France,

2780
02:48:51,960 --> 02:48:55,350
the Czech Republic or the
Netherlands. And you see that

2781
02:48:55,350 --> 02:48:58,920
more people can potentially slip
through the safety net in

2782
02:48:58,920 --> 02:49:02,940
Europe's economic powerhouse.
This is see more and more

2783
02:49:02,940 --> 02:49:07,080
Germans turning to charities for
help. This food distribution

2784
02:49:07,080 --> 02:49:07,740
centre

2785
02:49:07,740 --> 02:49:10,020
we're seeing this in the
Netherlands as well. The food

2786
02:49:10,020 --> 02:49:12,870
banks are the it's really the
big thing is where people just

2787
02:49:12,870 --> 02:49:15,810
going to get food. Yeah, and

2788
02:49:16,110 --> 02:49:19,200
it'd be an epidemic and
throughout the EU. But the

2789
02:49:19,200 --> 02:49:22,860
numbers at least that they
presented on this report, which

2790
02:49:22,860 --> 02:49:26,190
I think was on our tea or art if
it was on our tea, but it may

2791
02:49:26,190 --> 02:49:28,050
have been on van cat

2792
02:49:28,050 --> 02:49:33,600
so they're really looking at a
14 to 15% unemployment rate. If

2793
02:49:33,600 --> 02:49:34,200
every one is

2794
02:49:34,590 --> 02:49:37,650
something like real, even higher
rate of about 16 Maybe

2795
02:49:37,740 --> 02:49:42,360
so what happens what happens
when we have all of Europe? The

2796
02:49:42,360 --> 02:49:45,000
real unemployment if you if
you're looking at the US, let's

2797
02:49:45,000 --> 02:49:48,210
just we'd say youth unemployment
would be 40 50% In some

2798
02:49:48,210 --> 02:49:48,960
countries

2799
02:49:50,220 --> 02:49:53,160
in Germany to is pretty high to
what what

2800
02:49:54,000 --> 02:49:58,980
I mean, this can't be hard to
look at and predict nothing but

2801
02:49:59,010 --> 02:50:03,510
darkness What what is going to
have? I mean, what is going to

2802
02:50:03,510 --> 02:50:10,440
happen? What is this because we
have the industrial period is

2803
02:50:10,440 --> 02:50:13,830
over and we just have a bunch of
people who don't fit in with the

2804
02:50:13,830 --> 02:50:18,780
new Tino hipster model. I mean,
what is going to happen? Where

2805
02:50:18,780 --> 02:50:21,660
are the jobs going to come from
for these people? They're not.

2806
02:50:23,070 --> 02:50:27,150
Then we need to have a war.
Yeah, that that is what the

2807
02:50:27,150 --> 02:50:28,530
elites have always done.

2808
02:50:30,750 --> 02:50:34,230
Yeah, they gotta wipe these
people out, is because they've

2809
02:50:34,230 --> 02:50:37,230
already restructured the whole
world essentially. So the old

2810
02:50:37,230 --> 02:50:41,580
manufacturing is in China. Yeah.
In parts of Mexico. And here and

2811
02:50:41,580 --> 02:50:43,590
there. I mean, scattered around.
But China's the ones got their

2812
02:50:43,590 --> 02:50:45,930
fancy factories that can really
crank stuff out. I mean, they're

2813
02:50:46,410 --> 02:50:48,570
astonishing. Well, so

2814
02:50:49,380 --> 02:50:49,710
you have

2815
02:50:49,710 --> 02:50:52,200
all these, there's no more
factories, there's no more work.

2816
02:50:52,530 --> 02:50:55,770
I always reminisce, I tell him
stories about when I worked at a

2817
02:50:55,770 --> 02:50:58,590
factory. I've worked in a bunch
of factories I had when I was in

2818
02:50:58,590 --> 02:51:02,040
high school, when I was in high
school as summer jobs, I'd come

2819
02:51:02,040 --> 02:51:04,920
out with a lot of money and kids
were buying cars with their own

2820
02:51:04,920 --> 02:51:08,520
money. Because they got to get
during the summer time saved,

2821
02:51:08,640 --> 02:51:10,020
we saved our money.

2822
02:51:11,100 --> 02:51:14,250
And you could do all that you
can't do any of that now and you

2823
02:51:14,250 --> 02:51:16,740
can't lecture people about it
and you can't listen to right

2824
02:51:16,740 --> 02:51:22,020
wing talk shows. Go get a job.
Go get a job doing what

2825
02:51:22,590 --> 02:51:25,170
McDonald's you have to wait in
line to get a job there. That's

2826
02:51:25,170 --> 02:51:27,540
all you're doing is taking the
lowest possible wage and I'm

2827
02:51:27,540 --> 02:51:29,550
making anything at that place
when you were just to work at a

2828
02:51:29,550 --> 02:51:30,240
factory I

2829
02:51:30,240 --> 02:51:33,270
hear I hear your money. I hear
Costco is a great place to to

2830
02:51:33,270 --> 02:51:34,800
work Costco, right.

2831
02:51:34,830 --> 02:51:37,080
That's what the programme so you
get a job at Costco. You can't

2832
02:51:37,080 --> 02:51:38,160
do luck. Yeah.

2833
02:51:38,490 --> 02:51:42,210
Well, then I would say the only
other way to do it is we have to

2834
02:51:42,210 --> 02:51:45,900
have some kind of pandemic we
have to kill people in another

2835
02:51:45,900 --> 02:51:46,260
one. They've

2836
02:51:46,260 --> 02:51:49,170
tried to do that with them
slipping in the bird flu that

2837
02:51:49,170 --> 02:51:50,610
remember that one? That's my
favourite.

2838
02:51:50,760 --> 02:51:55,470
Let me the here's one. So this
is a report. The Lancet The

2839
02:51:55,470 --> 02:52:00,900
Lancet that I would say the
lancet is when it comes to

2840
02:52:01,860 --> 02:52:06,030
medical information. It's highly
regarded. Lancet has a called

2841
02:52:06,030 --> 02:52:11,790
Lancet. I said Lancet. Yeah, the
lancet Lancet, the Lancet. This

2842
02:52:11,790 --> 02:52:15,720
is what everyone points to when
they say vaccines are safe and

2843
02:52:15,990 --> 02:52:22,650
correct the Lancet. Am I wrong?
Or do you know anything about

2844
02:52:22,650 --> 02:52:23,280
the lancet

2845
02:52:23,280 --> 02:52:26,250
is one of the great medical
journals. Yeah, thank you. Okay.

2846
02:52:27,510 --> 02:52:32,910
A new report, which came out on
February 15, neuro behavioural

2847
02:52:32,910 --> 02:52:37,170
effects of developmental
toxicity. And I have this report

2848
02:52:37,170 --> 02:52:42,270
in the show notes 5902 dot Ionis
show notes.com. In 2006, they

2849
02:52:42,270 --> 02:52:44,820
did a systematic review and
identified five industrial

2850
02:52:44,820 --> 02:52:52,470
chemicals as developmental
neurotoxins. We postulate that

2851
02:52:52,500 --> 02:52:55,950
people should never be exposed
to these, these chemicals should

2852
02:52:55,950 --> 02:53:02,400
not be presumed safe to brain
development. At any time, these

2853
02:53:02,400 --> 02:53:06,450
include, I'm going to try and
read some of these lead,

2854
02:53:06,480 --> 02:53:10,920
obviously, methyl mercury
polychlorinated biphenyls

2855
02:53:10,950 --> 02:53:18,870
arsenic, and Choate toluene.
Since 2006. epidemic, epidemic,

2856
02:53:20,070 --> 02:53:21,390
epidemiologists,

2857
02:53:21,690 --> 02:53:25,950
epidemiological studies have
documented six additional

2858
02:53:25,950 --> 02:53:30,180
developmental neurotoxins. So
these are six additional ones

2859
02:53:30,180 --> 02:53:33,810
that you should not have
anywhere near you. They include

2860
02:53:33,900 --> 02:53:42,000
manganese chloro, chloro, Pirate
phos, dye chloro dye phenol

2861
02:53:42,000 --> 02:53:46,650
trick to loafer the theme to
others I can't pronounce and

2862
02:53:47,430 --> 02:53:54,360
fluoride. Oh, and what do we see
here on the first thing that we

2863
02:53:54,360 --> 02:53:56,790
see in the news regarding
fluoride

2864
02:53:57,810 --> 02:54:01,080
going Finally this week some new
advice for parents the American

2865
02:54:01,080 --> 02:54:04,920
Dental Association says that a
tiny bit of fluoride toothpaste

2866
02:54:04,920 --> 02:54:08,550
should be used to brush kids
baby teeth. As soon as they come

2867
02:54:08,550 --> 02:54:11,160
in. China. I think a lot of
parents normally try to avoid

2868
02:54:11,160 --> 02:54:13,020
this because they're worried
their little kids might swallow

2869
02:54:13,020 --> 02:54:15,060
this. So why did the ADA make
the change to

2870
02:54:15,060 --> 02:54:18,810
kill them? That's why to kill
these little children. Give them

2871
02:54:18,810 --> 02:54:20,190
fluoride because

2872
02:54:20,190 --> 02:54:23,340
it turns out that a lot of kids
are getting cavities 40% of

2873
02:54:23,340 --> 02:54:25,350
school kids and the more
cavities you have as a kid, the

2874
02:54:25,350 --> 02:54:27,660
more likely you are to have
cavities as a grownup, which is

2875
02:54:27,660 --> 02:54:32,160
also absolutely not true. It's
behavioural is not medical. They

2876
02:54:32,160 --> 02:54:38,910
are literally promoting a neuro
toxin. That hurts your brain as

2877
02:54:38,910 --> 02:54:42,840
per the lancet promoting that
for two year

2878
02:54:42,840 --> 02:54:48,450
olds. Yeah, that's probably not
a good good thing. No, yes. Or

2879
02:54:49,860 --> 02:54:51,630
is fluoride in March?

2880
02:54:52,530 --> 02:54:56,940
I find it fascinating. And this
has to be part of this part of

2881
02:54:56,940 --> 02:55:01,020
the idea that we can the war is
messy. Why don't we just poison

2882
02:55:01,020 --> 02:55:02,910
the kids to poison him to death?

2883
02:55:03,270 --> 02:55:05,580
Man, it's just this this you
know, the thing is, is going to

2884
02:55:05,580 --> 02:55:08,040
be developmental. So the kids
still going to grow up, he's

2885
02:55:08,040 --> 02:55:11,160
just gonna be dumb. And it's
that which makes it easier to

2886
02:55:11,160 --> 02:55:13,830
kill them in a war but I think
that there's gonna have to be

2887
02:55:15,660 --> 02:55:20,790
some it's just as it seems like,
you know, this is kind of

2888
02:55:20,820 --> 02:55:21,810
insincere.

2889
02:55:24,510 --> 02:55:25,860
It's an insincere attempt,

2890
02:55:25,890 --> 02:55:29,040
this is a big this gonna be a
dare just nothing. Unless they

2891
02:55:29,040 --> 02:55:31,860
come up with something, some
invent, I don't know how you can

2892
02:55:31,860 --> 02:55:34,680
do it, there's no jobs. No,

2893
02:55:35,850 --> 02:55:37,050
there's not. And also

2894
02:55:37,050 --> 02:55:39,240
to all the countries that have
done, you know, kind of gets

2895
02:55:39,270 --> 02:55:42,720
eaten through this economic
situation or doing it through

2896
02:55:42,720 --> 02:55:47,010
financial services and services,
you know, service industries and

2897
02:55:47,010 --> 02:55:50,220
all that sort of thing. I mean,
Iran here yeah, there's there

2898
02:55:50,220 --> 02:55:55,890
are a moderate amount of
industrial operations here in

2899
02:55:55,890 --> 02:55:59,010
there. I mean, there's paint
mixing place down the street of

2900
02:55:59,010 --> 02:56:02,850
Zubair has got a facility in
Berkeley, there's a they still

2901
02:56:02,850 --> 02:56:05,910
make a lot of stuff here and
there as small, I think there's

2902
02:56:05,910 --> 02:56:08,910
gonna be a lot of craftsmanship,
stuff that that will keep people

2903
02:56:08,940 --> 02:56:13,260
busy, there's stuff like, you
know, completely off the off

2904
02:56:13,260 --> 02:56:16,230
beat new media stuff that we're
doing. Right, right, right.

2905
02:56:16,770 --> 02:56:22,260
Which is not even on the list of
things to do for anybody. And do

2906
02:56:22,260 --> 02:56:24,780
ya know, it's gonna be a huge
war and it's gonna take place in

2907
02:56:24,780 --> 02:56:25,230
Europe.

2908
02:56:25,920 --> 02:56:32,130
And you're thinking same actors,
Germany, and the rest. Germany

2909
02:56:32,130 --> 02:56:33,960
and France, France, really

2910
02:56:34,050 --> 02:56:36,060
is going to be interesting is
how it breaks down because you

2911
02:56:36,060 --> 02:56:38,640
know, you'd always end up with
the British getting involved

2912
02:56:38,640 --> 02:56:40,770
because they can't keep out of
anything. And so they'll get

2913
02:56:40,770 --> 02:56:44,220
involved with the French and
then the Germans because there's

2914
02:56:44,220 --> 02:56:46,740
more talented at this sort of
thing they'll start kicking

2915
02:56:46,740 --> 02:56:50,070
their ass and we're gonna have
to get involved to save or are

2916
02:56:50,070 --> 02:56:51,720
there's going to be all these
other countries I don't know

2917
02:56:51,720 --> 02:56:54,660
what the Russians are going to
do. Well, no, they're freaked

2918
02:56:54,660 --> 02:56:56,010
out about everything so they

2919
02:56:56,040 --> 02:57:00,750
if we if we believe in Smith,
Smedley Butler's war is a racket

2920
02:57:01,200 --> 02:57:05,070
then this is the only logical
way to go because that's how

2921
02:57:05,070 --> 02:57:08,970
money gets created industry
comes back and every everything

2922
02:57:09,240 --> 02:57:10,920
it takes a while and it's messy

2923
02:57:12,720 --> 02:57:15,630
I'm gonna have to get some a
clip of this or do a scanning or

2924
02:57:15,630 --> 02:57:21,180
something but in in one of
William Manchesters books where

2925
02:57:21,180 --> 02:57:24,390
he discusses the beginning of
most of this about Roosevelt and

2926
02:57:24,390 --> 02:57:28,680
he discusses the beginnings of
World War Two and he has stats

2927
02:57:28,680 --> 02:57:32,130
on how many planes and ships we
had and then how our

2928
02:57:32,130 --> 02:57:34,800
manufacturing cranked up and
then what it was like two years

2929
02:57:34,800 --> 02:57:40,620
later it's it makes your hair
stand on and how we went from

2930
02:57:40,620 --> 02:57:45,300
his kind of as funky country
that was whatever to into the we

2931
02:57:45,300 --> 02:57:47,910
don't want to get involved the
years a bunch of a holes we

2932
02:57:47,910 --> 02:57:52,800
don't want to deal with them to
incredible I think

2933
02:57:52,800 --> 02:57:55,410
stinky eight holes was what we
said the smelly

2934
02:57:57,270 --> 02:58:02,100
and it was like Wow, you got to
see these numbers. I'll dig that

2935
02:58:02,100 --> 02:58:02,280
up.

2936
02:58:02,310 --> 02:58:07,020
Why would How about the Middle
East will be Rob alized How

2937
02:58:07,020 --> 02:58:09,900
about Africa? We can we do
anything? Will they? Can we not

2938
02:58:09,900 --> 02:58:13,380
just make war in Africa and
build that

2939
02:58:13,800 --> 02:58:14,640
is no fun?

2940
02:58:18,060 --> 02:58:19,260
Yeah, that's right.

2941
02:58:19,890 --> 02:58:22,620
Making war in Africa does not
really solve Europe's problem.

2942
02:58:24,060 --> 02:58:27,450
Here's the good news. This is
for the book club after the war.

2943
02:58:27,480 --> 02:58:29,940
There's lots of fun stuff we can
do with science

2944
02:58:29,970 --> 02:58:33,840
does America oh its edge and
military technology to Nazi war

2945
02:58:33,840 --> 02:58:36,990
criminals brought here after
World War Two. An important new

2946
02:58:36,990 --> 02:58:40,470
book shows that while part of
our technical edge was homegrown

2947
02:58:40,620 --> 02:58:45,030
part came from some 1600 Nazi
scientists who tried to win the

2948
02:58:45,030 --> 02:58:48,750
war for Adolf Hitler. Operation
Paperclip explores the secret

2949
02:58:48,750 --> 02:58:52,350
military programme that hired
scientists who use slave labour

2950
02:58:52,350 --> 02:58:55,650
to build the v2 rocket and
others who use concentration

2951
02:58:55,650 --> 02:58:58,710
camp victims for human
experiments. For more. I'm

2952
02:58:58,710 --> 02:59:01,440
joined here in New York by Annie
Jacobson, she's the author of

2953
02:59:01,440 --> 02:59:04,290
Operation Paperclip, The Secret
Intelligence programme That

2954
02:59:04,290 --> 02:59:07,710
Brought Nazi Scientists to
America Ania it's such a thought

2955
02:59:07,710 --> 02:59:11,460
provoking book, you start at the
end of World War Two, when of

2956
02:59:11,460 --> 02:59:14,400
course the Americans and
Russians are rushing towards

2957
02:59:14,400 --> 02:59:18,120
Berlin. And there's a different
race going on trying to get a

2958
02:59:18,120 --> 02:59:20,880
hold of these Nazi scientists.
Yes, we

2959
02:59:20,880 --> 02:59:25,650
were after what were called ABC
weapons, atomic, biological and

2960
02:59:25,650 --> 02:59:26,190
chemical.

2961
02:59:27,900 --> 02:59:32,820
I think we nailed it. This is
good. i This is the first kind

2962
02:59:32,820 --> 02:59:36,030
of mainstream publication that
I've heard about recently of

2963
02:59:36,030 --> 02:59:37,320
Operation Paperclip.

2964
02:59:38,820 --> 02:59:42,480
He is getting back in the news.
Some reason I'm not sure why

2965
02:59:42,540 --> 02:59:45,210
movie is getting geared up.
We're trying to get the right

2966
02:59:45,210 --> 02:59:47,820
mindset. We've already
militarised the United States of

2967
02:59:47,820 --> 02:59:51,570
America by making everyone you
know, go through a rigmarole

2968
02:59:51,570 --> 02:59:54,930
just before any sort of an
athletic event where you stand

2969
02:59:54,930 --> 02:59:57,420
up and you're just salute the
flag and then there's a fly

2970
02:59:57,420 --> 02:59:57,840
over.

2971
02:59:58,590 --> 03:00:01,470
Don't forget the satellite. of
the troops satellite shot of the

2972
03:00:01,470 --> 03:00:02,640
troops in Kandahar

2973
03:00:03,030 --> 03:00:06,930
satellite Shan they're all
waving and they're in there is

2974
03:00:06,930 --> 03:00:10,890
all done. Now the most recent
thing is they've gone from in

2975
03:00:10,890 --> 03:00:14,280
baseball games, they start off
with a militaristic, which is

2976
03:00:14,310 --> 03:00:16,140
recent by the way people should
look into this. They weren't

2977
03:00:16,140 --> 03:00:21,240
doing this around 1920. So they
have the, you know, the national

2978
03:00:21,240 --> 03:00:23,550
anthem, and then on the seventh
inning stretch where they used

2979
03:00:23,550 --> 03:00:26,400
to play I take a break for a
minute or two where they

2980
03:00:26,430 --> 03:00:31,740
refurbish the infield with some
scrapers. They used to sing Take

2981
03:00:31,740 --> 03:00:34,770
Me Out to the Ballgame. It was a
tradition. They've dropped that

2982
03:00:34,770 --> 03:00:37,710
in most parks now and they sing
America the Beautiful so they've

2983
03:00:37,740 --> 03:00:44,220
added a second second element of
militarism into the baseball

2984
03:00:44,220 --> 03:00:46,140
game, which is supposed to be
just something to sit in.

2985
03:00:46,530 --> 03:00:50,670
Something that you know laze
around watching, which I found

2986
03:00:50,670 --> 03:00:54,360
was a little distressing. And
you see that a lot. This America

2987
03:00:54,360 --> 03:00:56,430
the Beautiful there's no reason
for this. We don't need to be

2988
03:00:56,430 --> 03:00:59,790
listening to the same two songs
excessively.

2989
03:01:00,570 --> 03:01:02,760
You want to do a clip Blitz to
get out of here. Are you done?

2990
03:01:02,760 --> 03:01:03,690
What do you Where are you at?

2991
03:01:04,530 --> 03:01:07,440
Well, if we do have if you want
to hear some, here's, hold on.

2992
03:01:08,160 --> 03:01:14,820
We're gonna set it up right me?
Yeah,

2993
03:01:15,660 --> 03:01:18,930
unreported news, Bahrain still
going strong.

2994
03:01:19,529 --> 03:01:21,239
Bahrain, a string

2995
03:01:21,240 --> 03:01:24,930
of violent protests by Shia
Muslims and Bahrain, marking the

2996
03:01:24,930 --> 03:01:27,540
third anniversary of the
uprising against the Sunni

2997
03:01:27,540 --> 03:01:31,530
government. Several injured over
a dozen detained as police used

2998
03:01:31,560 --> 03:01:35,730
tear gas. The unrest that began
in February 2011 has been

2999
03:01:35,730 --> 03:01:39,720
violently suppressed with rather
a lot of help coming in from the

3000
03:01:39,720 --> 03:01:42,120
ruling Maliki as a Gulf allies.

3001
03:01:44,010 --> 03:01:47,160
I think we should do like Libya,
they do not no fly zone and go

3002
03:01:47,190 --> 03:01:48,780
go get those by Iranians.

3003
03:01:48,930 --> 03:01:51,930
This has been going on forever.
It never gets reported to us

3004
03:01:51,930 --> 03:01:55,320
media, but it's been going on
forever. Another non real hold

3005
03:01:55,320 --> 03:01:55,650
on hold

3006
03:01:55,650 --> 03:01:56,670
on hold on another non

3007
03:01:56,670 --> 03:02:02,910
reporting back and forth. Okay,
it's not just all you, man,

3008
03:02:03,660 --> 03:02:06,750
three clips 33, clip Blitz,
Blitz,

3009
03:02:06,780 --> 03:02:11,040
Syria, it's been a week where
there was some rare good news,

3010
03:02:11,250 --> 03:02:15,060
food and medicine finally went
into the besieged or quarter of

3011
03:02:15,060 --> 03:02:19,620
palms. And more than 1000 people
were brought out during a

3012
03:02:19,620 --> 03:02:23,550
temporary truce between rebel
fighters and the government. But

3013
03:02:23,550 --> 03:02:27,120
resolving serious deep
humanitarian crisis needs a

3014
03:02:27,120 --> 03:02:31,980
political solution that helped
push the warring parties to

3015
03:02:31,980 --> 03:02:35,970
attend peace talks in Geneva.
But the second round ended today

3016
03:02:36,060 --> 03:02:37,470
in complete failure,

3017
03:02:38,310 --> 03:02:44,310
failure failure, everything's
failed. I wonder why Kerry's not

3018
03:02:44,310 --> 03:02:50,130
out there saying hey, I suck.
Sorry. Didn't work. What I mean,

3019
03:02:50,160 --> 03:02:54,570
well, so remember now that the
the chemical weapons apparently

3020
03:02:54,570 --> 03:02:58,230
we're all going to be gone. And
you had the Geneva one protocol

3021
03:02:58,230 --> 03:03:01,440
which called for Assad to step
down. Then they came back for

3022
03:03:01,440 --> 03:03:05,100
Geneva to protocol. And then the
guy said, well, but this is

3023
03:03:05,130 --> 03:03:08,580
based on one which means you
still have to go and then Assad

3024
03:03:08,580 --> 03:03:10,980
said but hold on. I gave him my
weapons. Why do I have to go?

3025
03:03:11,610 --> 03:03:15,540
And now it's all failed again.
So the verbalization continues?

3026
03:03:16,020 --> 03:03:16,680
Exactly.

3027
03:03:20,040 --> 03:03:20,850
BlueJ

3028
03:03:21,990 --> 03:03:26,010
southern Bulgaria hit it. All
right.

3029
03:03:27,060 --> 03:03:30,360
To southern Bulgaria, where far
right protesters clashed with

3030
03:03:30,360 --> 03:03:33,960
police after proceeding a
mosque. Over 100 demonstrators

3031
03:03:33,960 --> 03:03:37,590
arrested after hurling rocks and
bottles at security forces and

3032
03:03:37,590 --> 03:03:41,160
smashing the building's windows.
Local anger was sparked by a

3033
03:03:41,160 --> 03:03:44,850
decision to reopen the site as
an active place of worship. It

3034
03:03:44,850 --> 03:03:47,340
had been used for secular
purposes since the country

3035
03:03:47,340 --> 03:03:52,860
became communist in 1944. Yeah,

3036
03:03:53,610 --> 03:03:56,910
yeah. Bulgaria let's put it on
the list of countries to watch

3037
03:03:56,910 --> 03:03:57,210
rebel

3038
03:03:57,330 --> 03:04:00,930
rehabilitation list.
regularisation has begun through

3039
03:04:00,930 --> 03:04:04,680
through Facebook kills Oh, it

3040
03:04:04,680 --> 03:04:07,590
started for some of the drinking
game has already begun to claim

3041
03:04:07,590 --> 03:04:11,790
lives for victims so far, all
young men. The premise of the

3042
03:04:11,790 --> 03:04:15,300
game called Nick nominate is
simple. Someone films themselves

3043
03:04:15,300 --> 03:04:19,140
down in a large drink and post
the video on social media. After

3044
03:04:19,140 --> 03:04:22,080
that, they nominate a friend to
outdo them. And if the nominee

3045
03:04:22,080 --> 03:04:25,470
doesn't respond, they are
ridiculed on their Facebook wall

3046
03:04:25,500 --> 03:04:26,310
or on a Twitter

3047
03:04:26,340 --> 03:04:29,220
bullied. It's very difficult in
this day of personal liberties

3048
03:04:29,220 --> 03:04:31,950
to say that Facebook shouldn't
be condoning this, it should be

3049
03:04:31,950 --> 03:04:34,890
taking these videos offline.
Personally, I'd like to see that

3050
03:04:34,890 --> 03:04:37,800
happening because frankly, if
the thrill wasn't there, because

3051
03:04:37,800 --> 03:04:41,430
your mates weren't seeing you, I
suspect it would very rapidly

3052
03:04:41,430 --> 03:04:41,910
fizzle out.

3053
03:04:42,150 --> 03:04:46,200
I think this is another part of
a fine campaign. You hook them

3054
03:04:46,200 --> 03:04:49,440
up with the fluoride early on.
Then you get them to drink

3055
03:04:49,440 --> 03:04:53,040
themselves into a stupor in
their teens. Then you get them

3056
03:04:53,040 --> 03:04:57,960
on the meds and get them to OD
on heroin in their 30s. Who

3057
03:04:57,960 --> 03:04:58,800
needs more it

3058
03:04:58,800 --> 03:05:04,830
does It's too little too late.
All right,

3059
03:05:05,730 --> 03:05:06,450
one more.

3060
03:05:06,990 --> 03:05:11,910
Well, my favourite clip is this
one Bart cops at work. Okay.

3061
03:05:13,349 --> 03:05:16,199
And what Bart is admitting
tonight, Kristen?

3062
03:05:17,940 --> 03:05:21,060
Yeah Burt's police chief telling
us today that the officer who

3063
03:05:21,060 --> 03:05:25,080
tased a man on the train here at
San Bruno BART station was doing

3064
03:05:25,080 --> 03:05:30,510
his job. You cell phone video
shows it up close. The BART

3065
03:05:30,510 --> 03:05:36,390
officer warns a man of what he
is about to do. And he teases

3066
03:05:36,390 --> 03:05:40,200
him. It happened the night of
January 29. Someone called Bert

3067
03:05:40,200 --> 03:05:43,800
police to complain that this man
was drunk and harassing writers.

3068
03:05:43,890 --> 03:05:47,160
When an officer tracks the man
down on the train. He repeatedly

3069
03:05:47,160 --> 03:05:54,780
asked him to get off. The man
who has now been identified as

3070
03:05:54,780 --> 03:06:00,210
Robert Asbury doesn't listen. So
he's tased once and minutes

3071
03:06:00,210 --> 03:06:04,110
later when he's on the ground
again for five full seconds.

3072
03:06:07,110 --> 03:06:13,230
Taste again. As you saw in the
video, the officer was extremely

3073
03:06:13,230 --> 03:06:13,770
patient

3074
03:06:13,890 --> 03:06:18,120
first police chief. The Office
patient does not take the tasing

3075
03:06:18,120 --> 03:06:21,630
is fairly new. But he defended
the officer's actions saying

3076
03:06:21,660 --> 03:06:23,820
even the second teasing seemed
reasonable.

3077
03:06:24,300 --> 03:06:27,600
saw the subject still kicking
struggling with the officer. We

3078
03:06:27,600 --> 03:06:27,900
also

3079
03:06:27,900 --> 03:06:31,110
showed the video to Don camera
and a former BART police officer

3080
03:06:31,110 --> 03:06:32,940
who is now a tactical trainer.

3081
03:06:33,000 --> 03:06:37,320
I think both tastings were
appropriate simply because you

3082
03:06:37,320 --> 03:06:37,710
will listen

3083
03:06:38,490 --> 03:06:41,430
to people on don't listen to me.
You don't listen, it's

3084
03:06:41,430 --> 03:06:44,190
appropriate for me to shoot
electricity through you

3085
03:06:44,220 --> 03:06:47,730
for the train that day do not
agree. In that video they can be

3086
03:06:47,760 --> 03:06:51,930
heard telling the officer that
Asbury did nothing wrong. was

3087
03:06:51,930 --> 03:06:55,440
sitting next to him insisted as
Barry was harmless he should

3088
03:06:55,440 --> 03:06:58,770
have complied. But San Francisco
resident Benito Taylor told us

3089
03:06:58,770 --> 03:07:01,950
that does not justify what the
officer did next.

3090
03:07:02,070 --> 03:07:06,570
I don't think the second tase
was necessary was already a

3091
03:07:06,570 --> 03:07:07,830
painting is down.

3092
03:07:10,950 --> 03:07:16,410
I love that we will have the
entire world go into a tizzy

3093
03:07:16,860 --> 03:07:23,460
over some zoo that killed the
giraffe. Or some stray dogs that

3094
03:07:23,460 --> 03:07:28,140
are going to be picked up. And
everyone's all freaking out. But

3095
03:07:28,410 --> 03:07:28,740
oh,

3096
03:07:28,740 --> 03:07:32,400
I think you know one Tears was
okay. You know, it was a second

3097
03:07:32,400 --> 03:07:35,700
one. I think it was a valid
tasing. I think that's all

3098
03:07:35,700 --> 03:07:38,310
right. Shoot some electricity.
So that guy with hooks with

3099
03:07:38,310 --> 03:07:41,790
metal hooks into his skin. You
know, I think that's okay.

3100
03:07:41,940 --> 03:07:44,670
Taser, taser, taser. Ah,

3101
03:07:45,420 --> 03:07:47,910
wow, that is that guy was

3102
03:07:48,330 --> 03:07:50,700
the reason I like that clips
because the guy was barking at

3103
03:07:50,700 --> 03:07:53,790
the guy like the TSA people used
to bark at you that you always

3104
03:07:53,790 --> 03:07:54,690
bitched about Yeah,

3105
03:07:54,690 --> 03:07:55,980
oh, but this this

3106
03:07:55,980 --> 03:07:59,100
is not patients. No, this is
what's not patient. Get off the

3107
03:07:59,100 --> 03:08:00,000
train, sir. Yeah,

3108
03:08:00,030 --> 03:08:03,060
this is the next step. Put your
put your laptop in the thing I'm

3109
03:08:03,060 --> 03:08:06,930
gonna teach you take your shoes
off. No liquids,

3110
03:08:08,010 --> 03:08:12,600
taser, taser, taser, shelter in
place, cower in the corner.

3111
03:08:14,670 --> 03:08:20,400
Well, luckily, those of you
listening to this programme are

3112
03:08:20,400 --> 03:08:25,200
going to stop that. Because you
can stand there and just laugh.

3113
03:08:26,910 --> 03:08:28,200
days or days or days.

3114
03:08:29,160 --> 03:08:31,530
You can just stand there and
just laugh and everything will

3115
03:08:31,530 --> 03:08:36,180
be fine. And you know that
you're there just, you are just,

3116
03:08:36,450 --> 03:08:40,770
the whole idea is to just
terrorise you, and go forth

3117
03:08:40,770 --> 03:08:43,650
after this podcast and realise
that you you cannot be

3118
03:08:43,650 --> 03:08:48,210
terrorised. They cannot do it to
you because you see the humour.

3119
03:08:49,440 --> 03:08:52,230
You see the you got to admit
it's humorous.

3120
03:08:53,430 --> 03:08:55,830
It's very funny in a sick way.

3121
03:08:56,370 --> 03:08:57,750
It is for the sick world.

3122
03:08:59,850 --> 03:09:01,020
Taser, taser, taser.

3123
03:09:01,080 --> 03:09:09,540
Yeah, you're not listening, sir.
Wow. I don't know what to leave

3124
03:09:09,540 --> 03:09:12,720
you with experience North Korea
or the Snowden accomplices. I'm

3125
03:09:12,720 --> 03:09:14,910
not sure I'm a little torn.
Maybe I'll do both.

3126
03:09:16,140 --> 03:09:18,690
Hit the boats off and we'll
finish up. All right. So go to

3127
03:09:18,690 --> 03:09:24,780
experience North korea.com. This
is our producer my thesis? Yes,

3128
03:09:24,780 --> 03:09:31,770
exactly. Our producer Tony. He
says he was in Shanghai. And

3129
03:09:31,770 --> 03:09:37,680
there is a there's a C in it.
They went to he went to a bar

3130
03:09:37,680 --> 03:09:42,630
with his South Korean friend.
And he says these flyers were

3131
03:09:42,630 --> 03:09:47,160
all over this restaurant or this
bar in Shanghai. And it's

3132
03:09:47,160 --> 03:09:52,140
experienced North korea.com. And
there's big big tours. And by

3133
03:09:52,140 --> 03:09:54,180
the way, it's all in English.
There's no Mandarin so they're

3134
03:09:54,180 --> 03:09:56,430
not going after the Chinese
market. They're going after the

3135
03:09:56,430 --> 03:10:00,000
American market or English
speaking market. And it looks

3136
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:00,750
because this is get

3137
03:10:00,750 --> 03:10:03,780
good. Yeah, I want to see that
parade that big thing they do

3138
03:10:03,780 --> 03:10:06,990
once a year that's got to be
just worth the price of

3139
03:10:06,990 --> 03:10:07,980
admission. I'm going

3140
03:10:08,160 --> 03:10:13,020
to this is Pyongyang marathon
2014. With the banner on the

3141
03:10:13,020 --> 03:10:15,480
homepage has that hole. What are
they? What are the tours? They

3142
03:10:15,480 --> 03:10:19,950
have something that let's see.
Is there anything okay? We can

3143
03:10:19,950 --> 03:10:24,210
go to Pyongyang and
surroundings, which you get

3144
03:10:24,210 --> 03:10:26,400
visit three most important
cities of the country get to

3145
03:10:26,400 --> 03:10:30,510
understand the country and its
society. observe their way of

3146
03:10:30,510 --> 03:10:34,440
life, or you can do a week in
the past, which is 1900 euros

3147
03:10:34,470 --> 03:10:38,850
live a unique experience for the
world's most hermetic country.

3148
03:10:39,870 --> 03:10:43,590
Visit the country under the
purest communism. Whoo. And then

3149
03:10:43,590 --> 03:10:46,020
you could do Pyongyang, the
capital of communism, that's

3150
03:10:46,020 --> 03:10:47,370
three days and two nights.

3151
03:10:48,300 --> 03:10:52,320
I said, you know, there's gonna
cost about a grand for some of

3152
03:10:52,320 --> 03:10:54,600
these things. I think this would
be you probably could do this

3153
03:10:54,600 --> 03:10:56,790
trip for about $1,000 If you can
get there.

3154
03:10:56,940 --> 03:10:59,310
But I'd like to congratulate
you. And I think you can pull

3155
03:10:59,310 --> 03:11:03,420
this out. I mean, it's fact you
are right on North Korea wants

3156
03:11:03,420 --> 03:11:07,020
to be a tourist destination. And
then their marketing. They're

3157
03:11:07,020 --> 03:11:09,420
actually marketing. They're out
there getting getting the word

3158
03:11:09,420 --> 03:11:10,890
out. I think it's really good.
It's

3159
03:11:10,890 --> 03:11:13,920
fantastic. I think I can
probably put this back about

3160
03:11:13,920 --> 03:11:16,380
four years when I first bitched
and moaned about wanting to

3161
03:11:16,380 --> 03:11:19,560
drink Bordeaux. And after I saw
the vice thing, and they had all

3162
03:11:19,560 --> 03:11:22,080
these tourist things, even
though they're all empty. You

3163
03:11:22,080 --> 03:11:24,990
don't set up a big tourist
attraction because you just want

3164
03:11:24,990 --> 03:11:27,780
to kill empty. You wanted to
bring tourists. Yes.

3165
03:11:28,320 --> 03:11:31,230
You wanted and I bet it's a
beautiful country. I bet his

3166
03:11:31,230 --> 03:11:34,200
beautiful. Oh, it's untouched.
Yeah.

3167
03:11:34,560 --> 03:11:36,690
It's the light that say on this
website. Is that the final the

3168
03:11:36,690 --> 03:11:39,060
last frontier or something that
have some? Yeah,

3169
03:11:39,060 --> 03:11:43,530
there'll be no billboards.
Horrible. McDonald signs.

3170
03:11:43,530 --> 03:11:46,080
There's no McDonald's. Let's
face it. There's no jack in the

3171
03:11:46,080 --> 03:11:48,510
box. There will be 10 years from
now. But right now it's probably

3172
03:11:48,540 --> 03:11:49,590
pristine.

3173
03:11:51,090 --> 03:11:57,030
Experience North Korea, the
untouched final frontier. Its

3174
03:11:57,030 --> 03:12:00,570
beauty great, was beautiful. So
everyone can enjoy that. And

3175
03:12:00,570 --> 03:12:05,160
then then we had a little bit of
an argument about this. It

3176
03:12:05,160 --> 03:12:08,790
appears the accomplices everyone
was referring to regarding

3177
03:12:08,820 --> 03:12:14,160
Edward J. Snowden, unknown to
many in Congress as Edwin or

3178
03:12:14,160 --> 03:12:18,450
Eric because that's how our
Congress is paying attention.

3179
03:12:19,200 --> 03:12:22,680
Looks like the the accomplices
are being targeted. And we'll

3180
03:12:22,680 --> 03:12:25,110
hear about who they are soon
take

3181
03:12:25,320 --> 03:12:29,250
this February 10 memo from the
National Security Agency to

3182
03:12:29,250 --> 03:12:33,420
members of Congress detailing to
some great extent what they

3183
03:12:33,420 --> 03:12:36,180
believe now is happening and
what they're saying to Congress

3184
03:12:36,180 --> 03:12:40,980
his there was an NSA civilian
who Snowden apparently got to

3185
03:12:40,980 --> 03:12:45,510
enter his the civilians password
into computers Snowden was using

3186
03:12:45,510 --> 03:12:49,500
the person did not know of
course, he says that Snowden was

3187
03:12:49,500 --> 03:12:54,240
going to steal information from
the NSA database has entered his

3188
03:12:54,240 --> 03:12:57,510
password and Snowden,
unbeknownst to him, is able to

3189
03:12:57,510 --> 03:13:02,340
capture that password and use
it. That civilian who is not

3190
03:13:02,340 --> 03:13:06,750
identified now has left the
employment of the NSA, the NSA

3191
03:13:06,750 --> 03:13:10,770
says that it is informed the
Justice Department of all of

3192
03:13:10,770 --> 03:13:14,550
this no information about what
will happen next, the memo

3193
03:13:14,550 --> 03:13:19,110
pretty tantalising because it
also says there is a contractor

3194
03:13:19,140 --> 03:13:23,670
and an active duty member of the
US military also caught up in

3195
03:13:23,670 --> 03:13:26,520
all of this, but the NSA same,
it's going to leave it to their

3196
03:13:26,520 --> 03:13:31,260
employers to deal with it. So
perhaps more to come. All of

3197
03:13:31,260 --> 03:13:34,680
this, of course, a massive
security violation. And it

3198
03:13:34,680 --> 03:13:37,350
begins to explain how some of
this happened.

3199
03:13:37,440 --> 03:13:41,490
Yes. And I think it starts to
put the strategy into clearer

3200
03:13:41,490 --> 03:13:48,300
view of calling Snowden a thief.
By saying he didn't have access

3201
03:13:48,300 --> 03:13:54,450
to this, he stole the documents.
So this very different legal

3202
03:13:54,450 --> 03:13:56,280
scenario that is compliant, it

3203
03:13:56,760 --> 03:14:01,170
puts your buddy Glenn green
balls into a bind because he

3204
03:14:01,170 --> 03:14:01,380
ain't

3205
03:14:01,380 --> 03:14:05,070
by now. Now. He truly is offence
of stolen material. You're

3206
03:14:05,070 --> 03:14:09,600
absolutely right. So we both
were eautiful we both win. And

3207
03:14:09,600 --> 03:14:12,840
it's a set of beautiful. It's a
setup though. It's so obvious

3208
03:14:12,840 --> 03:14:17,820
because first we have douchebag
Rogers trying to get Comey the

3209
03:14:17,820 --> 03:14:22,890
FBI guy who's new, let's face
it, to say yes, if you if you

3210
03:14:23,310 --> 03:14:27,150
are a whistleblower and you
stole a dress, then you're a

3211
03:14:27,150 --> 03:14:30,090
thief. If you're a
whistleblower, but you stole the

3212
03:14:30,090 --> 03:14:33,540
documents, then you are a thief.
And if you sell those documents,

3213
03:14:33,540 --> 03:14:38,580
you are fencing. So if you did
not so it's a very specific

3214
03:14:38,580 --> 03:14:41,670
difference between having access
to the documents and saying,

3215
03:14:41,670 --> 03:14:46,890
Whoa, this is wrong what's going
on or stealing the documents?

3216
03:14:48,600 --> 03:14:53,040
Then that isn't that will not
that will put Snowden outside of

3217
03:14:53,040 --> 03:15:00,750
the whistleblower category and
place him firmly in To the thief

3218
03:15:00,750 --> 03:15:01,650
category

3219
03:15:05,790 --> 03:15:08,460
well, it changes a lot of
premises because Snowden was

3220
03:15:08,490 --> 03:15:11,760
always sold to the American
public as the guy who had

3221
03:15:11,760 --> 03:15:15,270
access. And that was a it was
scandalous that he had access.

3222
03:15:15,270 --> 03:15:17,400
And now that if he didn't have
access, and he just stole a

3223
03:15:17,400 --> 03:15:20,430
password and went in, this
changes the whole thing, just

3224
03:15:20,430 --> 03:15:22,500
gonna take a lot of work to
straighten this out

3225
03:15:22,560 --> 03:15:26,520
it i think i think it's and it's
so clear that you can set this

3226
03:15:26,520 --> 03:15:29,040
up, it's easy to get some other
civilian to say, yeah, no, I

3227
03:15:29,040 --> 03:15:32,970
gave that to him. Yeah. And some
of the active member of the DOD.

3228
03:15:33,660 --> 03:15:39,150
Yeah, yeah. He find some
students to do that. Well, okay.

3229
03:15:39,180 --> 03:15:40,500
I think we've gone too long.

3230
03:15:41,610 --> 03:15:43,230
Dude, we've gone way too. So be
back in the

3231
03:15:43,230 --> 03:15:44,400
conversation. I'm sure.

3232
03:15:45,870 --> 03:15:49,050
It's I think that's going to be
one of the major focus eyes of

3233
03:15:49,050 --> 03:15:50,100
the coming week.

3234
03:15:50,940 --> 03:15:54,690
Probably that end that we got
it. Just funny that mainstream

3235
03:15:54,690 --> 03:15:56,910
media hasn't picked up on this
North Korea thing.

3236
03:15:57,420 --> 03:16:00,360
The again, the experience North
Korea trips,

3237
03:16:00,510 --> 03:16:10,710
yeah. Dynamite. Yes, perfect. To
get there's that ex that

3238
03:16:10,710 --> 03:16:14,880
interested Vice magazine used to
China, I think was the way to go

3239
03:16:14,880 --> 03:16:16,890
because you get your documents
right there on the spot.

3240
03:16:17,160 --> 03:16:20,130
Right. And you're good to go.
Well, yeah, although they seem

3241
03:16:20,130 --> 03:16:22,050
to be steering clear of all
things China, which is

3242
03:16:22,050 --> 03:16:25,080
interesting. I'm not sure.

3243
03:16:25,200 --> 03:16:30,060
Not sure. Yeah, that's weird,
too. Well, we'll figure it out.

3244
03:16:30,570 --> 03:16:31,710
Figure it out and take the
visit.

3245
03:16:31,740 --> 03:16:35,130
We're definitely going to do our
best and we will continue to do

3246
03:16:35,130 --> 03:16:38,550
that for you on Thursday. When
we come back on the best podcast

3247
03:16:38,550 --> 03:16:41,790
in the universe. Remember us at
the vorak.org/na as we move

3248
03:16:41,790 --> 03:16:45,480
closer towards Episode 600, you
can become a special executive

3249
03:16:45,480 --> 03:16:49,980
producer coming to you from FEMA
Region six here in Austin,

3250
03:16:49,980 --> 03:16:53,040
Texas, capital of the drone Star
State in the morning, everybody.

3251
03:16:53,370 --> 03:16:54,270
I'm Adam curry,

3252
03:16:54,599 --> 03:16:58,559
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where the motto is taser, taser,

3253
03:16:58,559 --> 03:17:00,599
taser, I'm John C. Dvorak.

3254
03:17:00,690 --> 03:17:07,980
We'll be back on Thursday right
here. I know agenda. Tech

3255
03:17:07,980 --> 03:17:09,270
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3256
03:17:10,980 --> 03:17:17,520
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