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I just can't see you on a
skateboard.

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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It's Thursday, February 13 2014.
Time for your getting donation

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media assassination, episode
five, nine or one.

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This is no agenda.

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vaccinating human resources
against mainstream melee and

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FEMA Region six at the travel
sites hideout in Austin, Texas

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in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry.

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And from Northern Silicon
Valley, plain and simple. I'm

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John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill.

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All right. Before we used to say
anything, did you did you

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purposely were you late on
coming in? Or do we have some

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kind of latency already?

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Oh, we have latency? Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Big

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time. I just waited three
seconds for you to reply.

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Well, it's funny because we
didn't have it the last time we

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did this. And is

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this. We're testing a new
package?

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's very weird when

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he's not good.

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You want to go back to MIT?

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No, I think we should disconnect
and reconnect. I don't think it

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has anything to do with the
quality.

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Of course it does. The higher
the quality, the more latency

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that's obvious because of the
date. Okay, I'll go back to mid

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to mid and you sounded fine. On
mid How do you send back on mid?

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Yeah, okay. I'm going to count
and you fill in the blank.

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1234567567 It's horrible. It's
really bad. I'm going to

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disconnect. We'll try it one
time and one time only.

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Okay, there we go away.

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This is John's idea. People just
want you to know, I had nothing

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to do with it. Hello.

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You didn't disconnect? I sure
did. Did you hit the disconnect

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button or close? Disconnect
after hit close? No, you have to

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disconnect. I'm gonna hit
disconnect. And we should be

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done

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disconnected. Are you
disconnected yet? No one needs

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to listen to this crap on a
podcast. Are you there?

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I just reconnect. All right. All
right. All right. I'm

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going to count 12345. It's not
going to work.

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What if you laugh after my five
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I'm laughing because I'm not
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Oh, you don't hear me at all?
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hear you. But I kind of 123455
All right, fine. We'll try this.

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It may it may be just as bad as
Skype. I don't know what is this

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thing we're using?

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This is called vave or vo V or I
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with a V.

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Oh, it's a Silicon Valley thing.
I know. And we had a meeting. We

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need to come up with a name. I
don't know, man. It's like, as

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named after a shoe store. Yeah,
shoe store.

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Is that with me via was?

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No. Maybe not a shoe store? I
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You're talking about

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this? I thought you said you'd
be like somebody like some shoes

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from this place in South
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You are making this up? I've
never heard of this. No. I

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just wonder why everyone was
told in

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the meeting. Whatever. All
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No, I mean, okay, well, what was
how did meitheal come about?

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I have no idea. That was the
domain name was available. Who

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cares? How can I? How do I get
rid of it as a bigger question.

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That's, that's what we want.
Anyway, so this is new package.

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I have to say you sound
spectacular.

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It's just that I have a little
you sound good, too. Okay.

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All right. Now, everyone's very
excited about the new package.

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Well, a new package is an alpha.
So we use a ways off before

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anyone can use it.

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Yeah. All right. Good, good.
Good. All right. Thank you all

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very much for the 800 emails
saying that you believe Victoria

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Nuland said deets and not deeds,
I got it. And that's actually

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makes me sadder than thinking
that she had some details to

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work out with with the current
prime minister of Ukraine. So

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instead of the instead of her
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know, like oil leases and deeds
and something interesting, she's

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doing hipster Valley girls speak
and saying deets, which just

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makes me want to throw up that's
horrible background

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on this.

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But you remember the quiz. This
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this is was this was a clip we
played on Sunday, right?

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This is and I was trying to
figure it out Christian Oh,

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yeah. Why don't you talk to
what's his name the prime

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minister of Ukraine and then
make sure the deed six stick and

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I thought she was talking about
the deeds. And I don't know did

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you not get any emails about
this zero.

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I got zero bonus. Oh, I

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got a whole bunch of I think she
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Valley. Speak for details.

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Oh, oh, that's funny.

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It's not It's disgusting. That's
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speak like that now.

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Is that? That is funny. I like
it. Hey, I got some deets for

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ya. It's sad. I can't even
imagine some of these other

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things. You could say my all my
email was people saying, Oh,

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they killed the guy who made the
the ring that

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did murder. We had that on the
show. We said it was the biggest

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hoax.

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Yeah, no, it was just, that's my
email was mostly Hold

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on a second. Let me let me play
the Newland thing because I

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didn't realise that you hadn't
received a single email about

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this, which is interesting. By
itself. He didn't. Let me just

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see I'd have to. Because at the
end, I think what she's talking

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about

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is my snarky responses that have
kept people away. No.

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It's also just your last name.
People don't know how to spell

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it. And with that they don't fry
back now they just give up they

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just like don't even try. Oh, I
looked everywhere for John's

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email address. No, you didn't.
Like everywhere. Everywhere he

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goes, Listen, talk to you. Oh,
there it is.

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Exactly. And I think we've got
to do something to make it stick

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together because you can be
pretty sure that if it does, if

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it does start to gain altitude,
the Russians will be working

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behind the scenes to try to
torpedo it. And again, the fact

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that this is out there right
now, I'm still trying to figure

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out in my mind why Yannick COVID
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a Party of Regions faction
meeting going on right now and

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I'm sure there's a lively
argument going on in that group

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at this point. But anyway, we
could we could land jelly set up

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on this one if we move

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even that we can land jelly sign
up on this one which of course

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was the title of the previous
episode. The way these people

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talk? What did they do? Do they
really think they are? More I

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hear this the more and she's
abbreviating everybody's name

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yes instead of yet to catch a
couple check off Yes, I got

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Yeah, it's and and this guy. I'm
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Sandwich click glitch clinching
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let me work on let me work on
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keep I think we want to try to
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international personality to

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ideas let's let's get some heavy
guns in here and national

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personality come on, say deets.

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Come out here and help to
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midwife this thing. That's
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during the test of this
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something being baked in you you
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we got to baked in all these
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this if it gains altitude we
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like land jelly side up. You'd
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if you didn't know that they
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the other issue is some kind of
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probably regrouped

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on that. Let me talk about that.

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So on that piece, Jeff, when I
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back to me VFR saying you need
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tomorrow for an attaboy and get
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the deeds to stick I guess I
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deets. All right, we got the
deets the

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dates the stick and the detail
deeds. Yeah, I

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guess it's details. I was
seriously like, these people are

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high ranking officials in the
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States of America. They sound

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like a sorority. freshman girls
at some crappy College.

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Tell me it's Yeah. Well, indeed.
Just this little doesn't sound

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right. Okay.

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All right jelly site up.

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So I started getting a whole
bunch of tweets two days ago. As

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it as the news report came out.
Donald Greg, my uncle Uncle Don

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arrived in Pyongyang. With a
that's North Korea. Yes. The

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Capitol Yes. With with an envoy.
Now this is very interesting.

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I didn't get to go on this trip.
Well, mount.

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So here's the deal. So as you
know, I had already reached out

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to Uncle Don Meg about hooking
up this summer and you're going

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to see them, which has actually
turned into a little mini family

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reunion in our mock which is
great, because, you know, I get

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to see all of my cousins who
have clearance.

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Which, how many is that?

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All of them? Well, Lucy used to
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What about Willow?

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No, that's my sister. She has no
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She's a relative. No, no, no, no

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wrong side of the family. But my
cousin, my cousin Lucy, who

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actually is coming to Austin in
April. So we'll see here before

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then. She was married to
Christopher Buckley.

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Yeah, can you have can you do me
a personal favour? Sure. Have

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the place look to bug detail?
Make sure that there's nothing

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planned.

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So you know, Christopher. It's
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Christopher Buckley is.

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Yeah, he's Christopher Buckley's
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exactly. And so there's all
there's all kinds of clearances

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and stuff over there. And so
anyway, I had reached out

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appropriately because we
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day uncle Nan is not going to be
there anymore. He's 84 And you

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know it's gonna suck because I
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deets. So I basically emailed
said, hey you know before this

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thing lands jelly sign up I need
some deeds from y'all can we

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come by so it turns into a
little mini reunion in August

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which is great. We're gonna go.
And so we're going and I just

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confirmed this. And then I see
on breaking news CNN Donald Greg

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with several other and this is
great the several other members

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of the Pacific century Institute
Yeah, you got to look this one

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up the Pacific century Institute
now I had I was unawares its

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Pacific Institute, the Pacific
century, I ns t.org. I think

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looking at it now, and I've done
as much research as I as I could

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really get to there was an
official ONVIF envoy from the

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State Department which was
cancelled. I guess these guys

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were going to try and see if
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jacked out or whatever. And that
was cancelled. And then the next

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day uncle Don with a couple
buddies from the Pacific century

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Institute show up. And the State
Department is very quick to say

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this is not sanctioned and not
there on behalf of the on behalf

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of the United States. You know
that this is not a

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wink wink nudge nudge? Well, I,

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I have to think, John, now that
we know that, you know, Uncle

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Don went on till he was
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amongst many other things. By
the way, his he is the let me

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see about. I gotta read this to
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the chairman of his generation.

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Have you seen his? Have you seen
his his bio? Let me read this

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on this on this. Yes, yes, yes,
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Following graduation from
Williams College in 1951, he

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joined the Central Intelligence
Agency and an even asked to say

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CIA in parentheses. Like we
didn't know that just in case.

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Over the next quarter century
was assigned to Japan, Burma,

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Vietnam and Korea. I thought it
wasn't allowed to talk about the

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Japan thing. Anyway, he was
seconded to the National

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Security Council staff in 79,
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intelligence activities and
Asian policy affairs. In 82,

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Greg was asked by then Vice
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his National Security Adviser.
He then retired wink wink from

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the CIA, and was awarded its
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distinguished intelligence
medal, which means I

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couldn't talk about fight club.
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when you get the metal you get
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I wonder what that understanding
was? No, we get to talk about

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the metal

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distinguished intelligence
metal. I wonder what that does

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that mean he's the best spy
ever. He's He's one. All right.

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And then he served as they make
no mention here of Iran Contra.

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I wonder why they don't put that
in his bio that would be

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appropriate. That's when he
became ambassador to South

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Korea. But then you look down
here at member of the Council on

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Foreign Relations. Recent awards
include honorary degree from

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Green Mountain College,
Secretary of Defence metal guys

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who make the coffee I think so.
Yeah. Secretary of Defence medal

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for outstanding public service.
The Williams College Kellogg

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award, this guy is so elitist,
but yet he's cool, which makes

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it kind of interesting.

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I think a lot of elites are
cool. Yeah.

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I do know that he wants to talk
for Goldman Sachs. And then they

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sent him stock and he was so
appalled because he didn't

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wouldn't take any payment. He
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To him that was a mistake. Now.
I think there's probably bugged

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now I think I think with with
Don, as he was the one that

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essentially said, you know,
Dennis Rodman the first time

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around, not this time when he
was puking in the hallways

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everywhere and shitting in the
hotel. He said, Dennis Rodman

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basically has the right idea
North Korea just wants they

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don't want pharmacists. They
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basketball and skiing kickball
and skiing. That's That's

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because Owen was a basketball
nut. We talked about this

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before. Yeah, we have all the
details of it. He liked the

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Chicago Bulls the most Yes.
Yeah. And was just where Dennis

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played. It was in one iteration.
And he loves skiing because he

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lived in Switzerland.

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So I send over a note to to Meg.
Please don't click that pen.

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It's so loud. We talk.

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This is different. This is me.
I'll tell you what I was doing.

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I had the keyboard on my lap and
I'm pulling out the little the

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little legs and then pushing the
legs back down. This is what

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caused me to keep hitting that
stupid button.

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What could you not do that?
fiddling? I'm

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fiddling good Don't be so mean
to me.

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Well just do it. Some fiddle
with something softer. No, I

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put a keyboard on the floor.
Whoa very funny. Oh yeah. is

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never that soft, my friend.
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let me write that down. When
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this is very stubborn. This is
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for North Korea, where they have
this kind of the carrot the

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stick thing like oh, we're going
to reunify the families but only

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if you guys don't do military
exercises with what

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is being seen as a surprise
invitation from North Korea to

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South Korea to take part in high
level talks in the demilitarised

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village of one one job

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here. This invite comes as
preparations continue for a

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reunion of separated families
later this month. And that we've

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just had these pictures that
have just come into us within

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the last few minutes of the
South Korean delegation. Just a

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warning, there is some flash
photography in the pictures you

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are about to see. They show the
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departing for the tools to be
held at the border. And it has

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been more than six years since
such high level meetings took

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place with the North Vietnamese
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although agenda has not been set
before the meeting, the two

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sides are expected to discuss
the major inter Korean issues

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including the smooth proceeding
and the regularisation of family

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reunions. And his

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conference there in Geneva, the
North Korean ambassador to the

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United Nations urged Washington
and Seoul to suspend their

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planned annual military
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So it's always the same thing.
It's always Oh, we want to bring

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everyone together but you have
to stop the military exercises

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now. I believe Don is there to
really make something work

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because he's never they don't
show him anywhere. He goes on

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Fareed Zakaria CNN Don says hey,
you know, these these guys just

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want to participate. You know,
don't be such douchebags towards

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North Korea. I haven't seen him
on the news since this is what

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two years ago

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was because he's not part of
these obviously not read into

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the whatever script they will
run.

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So I fire off an email the mag
I'm like, hey, you know, hey,

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looking forward to seeing this.
Hey, looking forward to seeing

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you guys August 16. Oh, just saw
on CNN the danza in. In K today

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you know any any any info was
always appreciated? I should

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read your her her exact email.
It was I don't have in front of

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me. It was literally like,
great. The union's gonna be fun.

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PS Don Tripp low key, which is
code four, shut the fuck up.

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Don't not even done. Just don
Tripp low key. Okay. So yeah,

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and there's nothing you can't
find a single news report about

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it. Since this is not three days
ago, you

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spotted the news report with a
news report. The guy probably

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was fired. Hey, man,

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don't do it. Anyway, so

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I may not have found out about
it. So we're scouring the news.

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so there is some some
speculation. Maybe he's going to

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try and pop this kind of Bay guy
free? I don't? I don't think so.

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I think I think Don was probably
requested by the South Koreans

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to try and make something work.
He's highly respected in both

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South and North Korea. And here,

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not so much so that I could meet
with the old man when he was

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still alive.

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Well, we talked about that. And
you'll recall that he had sent

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movies over and he at least took
a recommendation. Do you

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remember this? No. But yeah, he
was going to send a package of,

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of movies to Kim Jung IL. And we
and we had on the show we did

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suggestions. You remember this?

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Oh, I do remember the
suggestions for the movies.

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We had. We had some real prize
winners. Yeah, that's what we

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get. So that was that was the
closest we got to you drinking

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Cabernet or whatever the old guy
is. Anyway, so here's a

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Bordeaux. Here's one last little
report on this is all I could

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find on the North Korean
situation.

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There aren't many ways to relax
in North Korea. Here at the

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country's new ski resort. Fun is
accessed via military style

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checkpoint, and a creaky 40
minute crawl up the mountain.

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There's plenty of room on the
slopes. This is a hobby reserved

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for North Korea's elite.

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But the thing that's interesting
about this is they make it sound

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like this is crazy ski lift. The
thing is brand new to creaky.

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Sounds like it? Yeah, it sounds
like a bad report. And it's not

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probably reserved. Anyone who
can afford it can get there

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probably can go skiing if they
want. I mean, North Koreans are

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interested in skiing, not none.

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But yeah, you can go you can get
there. This is I think they're

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open for business. And this is
something you said years ago you

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said North Korea wants to be a
tourist destination. We nailed

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it is probably in Red Book
number one. Probably nailed it.

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And just you know, we just have
some issues with now it's like

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Russia. It's the same thing. All

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I see all the time to figure out
how to do things so they won't

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listen to anyone

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now but the way it's being
portrayed. If you walk out on

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the street, you say, what do you
think Russia is like? I'm sure

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people like oh, it's all locked
down. It's crazy. They have crap

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food, drink vodka that drunk all
day. Got nothing but in that

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case, though, Are there toilets
that Yeah, it's like, yeah, in

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1985. But you'd think that
America really does not

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understand that Moscow. You can
there's product stores, who they

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know who the Kardashians are in
Moscow and in St. Petersburg.

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If you travel enough, you can,
especially in these countries

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that we're developing. Like, if
you go if you've been I didn't

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go to Beijing and in the 80s,
but I was there in the 90s. And

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then within five years, it's
like a different city. And then

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as Shanghai just popped up out
of nowhere is this huge

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metropolis is modern metropolis.
Little is weird architecture.

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And they can turn this stuff. I
mean, these, we've done it every

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place except Haiti. We can
modernise in the drop of a hat

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for some reason. He's Jinx. Now
we realised

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Haiti, we rub alized at did
exactly what we're supposed to

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do that we're good, good work.

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So the Russian thing is
bullcrap. And if you see some of

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the reports from Sochi, where
they're actually in, it's a

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resort town on the Baltic Sea
for the Russian elites. And

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they're trying to modernise it,
in my opinion. They went through

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all this effort to modernise and
build up and dropped to 51

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billion in there to keep the
Russian oligarchs in the

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countries Yes, because they were
all going to Santro pay and

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throwing money away on
overpriced balls of DOM pairing

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y'all actually just assume they
have extra money away and so she

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it's no longer

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Santro pay it's what is the
island down there off of off of

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the Italian coast

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there's some island not going to
now not yet not talking about

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this?

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Yeah, we just can't remember
exactly Chicka Corsica was a

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Corsica No, I

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don't think so. Course was
pretty big.

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It was some other douchebag
yacht town. Yeah. Anyway, it's

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not it's not central Pei
anymore. It's just not. However,

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fascinating to go. Of course,
now we have the gay thing. And I

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wanted to state one more time to
my lesbian, gay, bisexual, queer

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questioning intersex. Brothers
and sisters, you are being

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misused. You are being abused by
the just by your own brothers

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and sisters unfortunately, are
doing anything they can to to

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collect money. All under the
premise of Russia is is horrible

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towards gays. And this ABC
report which I picked up really

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solidifies how out of touch the
mainstream media is with what's

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really going on as apparently
the only gays in Russia they can

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find our drag queens. And this
is it's actually it's offensive.

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It's really becoming offensive.
How and it's the same club by

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the way that BBC guy went to
visit we played that clip a

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couple of weeks ago. He's like
Oh yes. And now this clip boy

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was shot at and you get some
that he's got some she'll who's

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just not even understanding the
questions have been shot

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out. Because and there have also
been like water attacks. Yes.

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Maybe a gas. Yeah, they tore up
the roof. Yes, clubs Central

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Station. Russia's largest gay
venue is under attack a shooting

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gas attacks, vandalism, patrons
and staff horrified. And now the

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manager points out this, a
bizarre morality patrol van that

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monitors the club videotaping

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like someone's Volkswagen bus on
the sidewalk within and they

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might not even be true. It's
just a ridiculous report. Shame

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on you ABC patrons as they come
and go

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because they're trying to make
us uncomfortable to hide to not

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to go out

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the names of several Central
Station patrons have been

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changed to protect their
identities. Alexei is 20 years

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old, intelligent soft spoken

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here. You can't even go outside
and say out loud sit here again.

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And it's not only for the
Internet can be dangerous for

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you.

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Is not only forbidden, which is
not you know, they just got some

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kid who dresses up and is is a
drag queen performer to just say

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some stuff. And it's really it's
very disturbing. I think the gay

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community even the whole idea of
gay community to do everything

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makes me metal thing makes me
mad. Everything just ah ah,

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honestly, I had another great
example of that. There was I

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guess Amazon has their new show.
They're they're trying to

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compete with Netflix. So they
have a show out called the

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after, I guess. I have no idea
what it's about and and I was

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told I should not Watch it. But
here's a clip solidifying how

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wrong how misguided we are in
gay rights which are just human

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rights or human rights and
rights that you have this should

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why shouldn't if they're gay
rights it should be lesbian

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rights and intersex rights and
and by curious rights and

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straight rights what is that?
How about just human rights and

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crimes are crimes does not hate
crime it makes no sense focus

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fake it's a matter of fucking
speaking don't even have any

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friends in high fuckin places
yet twink How do you even know

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I'm gay it gays fucking
Christmas you're just a hateful

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human being I some folk in
parades I hate you know hate

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speech in itself is a crime.
There you go. That's what we're

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teaching people. Hate speech in
itself is a crime.

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Well, whatever it takes. Now
it's we got to get there with

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the only way we're going to slam
down our freedom of speech is by

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making everything like you know,
you gotta think through

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everything. And this is what's
going on. I think that's one of

451
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,770
the big news this week. I did
get mail on this was the drop of

452
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:16,470
the United States and so far as
the free press is concerned at

453
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:20,520
number 46 on the world.
Reporters Without Borders. And

454
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,320
of course there was all upset
about this. They said they were

455
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,730
number 33 That wasn't bad
enough. But you know, we started

456
00:26:26,730 --> 00:26:30,180
to strike What do you start
complaining about this at? 4042?

457
00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:30,720
I'm not sure.

458
00:26:30,750 --> 00:26:33,390
here's the here's the thing that
I found interesting. The

459
00:26:33,390 --> 00:26:36,960
Netherlands is number two. I
mean, anyone who's from the

460
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,960
Netherlands not Yes, number two
or number two, they were like

461
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,490
number 10 number two behind
Finland. Go look it up. I

462
00:26:44,490 --> 00:26:48,450
haven't right here. Number two,
what to go look at them now.

463
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,790
Number two behind Finland which
made me laugh.

464
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,610
What's the name of their? Yeah,
it is funny.

465
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,230
What do you mean Reporters
Without boredom? But Rob without

466
00:26:58,230 --> 00:27:04,320
borders and rpg.org Reporters
Without boredom is that's the

467
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:13,080
new the new name. Here. It's our
RSS. Rs f.org. And the

468
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,670
Netherlands is number two behind
Finland. And I've I have very

469
00:27:17,670 --> 00:27:22,980
close ties with the Netherlands.
It's a Staci state. But more

470
00:27:22,980 --> 00:27:26,670
than 2 million people were
eavesdropped on by the and this

471
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:32,970
this just came out in. In Dutch
parliamentary hearings, I think

472
00:27:32,970 --> 00:27:36,300
was 1.8 million people were
eavesdropped. That's 10% of the

473
00:27:36,300 --> 00:27:42,690
population. By the way. 1.8 more
than 10% 1.8 million calls were

474
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:51,210
eavesdropped on by the Dutch CIA
and then given to the NSA just

475
00:27:51,210 --> 00:27:55,080
given to them. Oh, here you go.
Here's everything we've got.

476
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:58,020
Here this Finland one
Netherlands to Norway, three

477
00:27:58,020 --> 00:28:03,810
Luxembourg for the freedom of
the they the government

478
00:28:03,810 --> 00:28:09,840
subsidises. Journalists in the
Netherlands. Yeah, everyone. Oh,

479
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,850
yeah. Everything's great here.
Yeah, I'm not gonna complain.

480
00:28:15,450 --> 00:28:18,270
How can it be number two, this
is this is a farce.

481
00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:22,920
Well, if everything you say is
true, it is an obvious farce.

482
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:29,220
But of course, that that made
room for something very, very

483
00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:34,440
weird. I had not expected this
to happen so quickly. I

484
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,830
seriously did not expect that
Glenn Greenwald's. First Look,

485
00:28:40,890 --> 00:28:46,140
the intercept media thing, the
$250 million WordPress blog. I

486
00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:50,640
did not expect that the first
story out of the gate to be

487
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,110
compromised. I was blown away.
Really they're doing this the

488
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:58,590
first story they have is a
complete cover for the

489
00:28:58,590 --> 00:29:02,250
government. How did you you saw
the first story, I presume,

490
00:29:02,250 --> 00:29:02,550
John?

491
00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:06,450
Yeah, the story was I have some
clips about it. The first story

492
00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:10,080
was, I thought it was very lame.
At first, I thought the first

493
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,330
two stories related. The second
one was worse than the first

494
00:29:12,330 --> 00:29:17,160
which was exclusive photos of
all the spy locations, Fort

495
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,480
Meade and whatever. Anybody
exclusive. If I take a picture

496
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,120
of my thumb and publish it, it's
an exclusive photo. You've never

497
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,630
seen it before. This is a photo
you've never seen before. And it

498
00:29:27,630 --> 00:29:30,090
was just a bunch of lame photos.
I didn't even see that it was

499
00:29:30,090 --> 00:29:31,530
even remotely interesting.

500
00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:36,329
But I'll take it one step
further. And I also have a few

501
00:29:36,329 --> 00:29:38,999
clips because this was no
coincidence as far as I'm

502
00:29:38,999 --> 00:29:42,239
concerned. And I'm going to I
just have to I have to call

503
00:29:42,239 --> 00:29:46,529
these guys on being corrupt. So
they come up with this first

504
00:29:46,529 --> 00:29:53,069
story. And and this first story
is about how the NSA is

505
00:29:53,099 --> 00:29:57,659
apparently solve by itself
responsible for the StG in

506
00:29:57,659 --> 00:30:04,229
signals intelligence, which She
is used for drone strikes and

507
00:30:04,229 --> 00:30:11,399
drone targeting. And
effectively, the way I saw it

508
00:30:11,819 --> 00:30:15,809
gave entire cover to the CIA who
actually run the drone

509
00:30:15,809 --> 00:30:20,279
programme, who have the kill
list, who actually killed people

510
00:30:20,639 --> 00:30:24,359
with all kinds of intelligence,
it put this squarely on the

511
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:28,229
shoulders of the NSA. In that
entire article, there was only

512
00:30:28,229 --> 00:30:33,119
one mention of the CIA, the rest
was all NSA and NSA and NSA and

513
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:33,809
NSA. Now

514
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,680
what you're, what you're saying
is, you're reiterating a point

515
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,710
that we made some time ago,
which is that this is a battle

516
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:45,330
between the NSA and the CIA, and
you're now saying that this is a

517
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,280
an exam. You're

518
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,220
done. I'm gonna take it once
they're done by this i Well, I

519
00:30:53,220 --> 00:30:58,050
am stunned. Yes, I am stunned
that. Apparently, this is I can

520
00:30:58,050 --> 00:31:00,180
see it no other way. But first,
I'll give you an example. Here's

521
00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:04,770
broth. And this is how the
mainstream media, which is what

522
00:31:04,770 --> 00:31:07,530
most citizens listen to, and
watch, here's how he's

523
00:31:07,530 --> 00:31:12,450
interpreting this news, which
should be about the CIA killing

524
00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:12,900
people.

525
00:31:12,930 --> 00:31:16,470
Many of those unmanned attacks
rely on mobile phone information

526
00:31:16,530 --> 00:31:20,310
from the NSA. That's not
necessarily all that dependable.

527
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:22,860
Our CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY
CORRESPONDENT, Jim Shooto is

528
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:25,650
here. He's got the details of
this new information, this new

529
00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:26,550
report, what are you learning?

530
00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:28,710
Well, this goes right to the
core of what you learn in drone

531
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:31,410
programme because it goes to how
targets are selected and comes

532
00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:31,620
from

533
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:34,230
this very important, he's
talking about the core of the

534
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:36,780
drone programme, which is no
longer the CIA, apparently,

535
00:31:36,780 --> 00:31:36,990
Glenn

536
00:31:36,990 --> 00:31:39,480
Greenwald, of course, the source
of the Edward Snowden

537
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,470
revelations about NSA mass
surveillance, he quotes a former

538
00:31:43,470 --> 00:31:44,610
drone operator.

539
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,970
Yes. And we have an by the way,
John, we have now a new unnamed

540
00:31:47,970 --> 00:31:53,160
source, a former drone operator,
diagnose some of those. So this

541
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,510
is a new source, they come out
on this day, apparently, some

542
00:31:57,510 --> 00:32:00,030
rush that they have to get
something up and going, which is

543
00:32:00,030 --> 00:32:02,640
why it looks, you know, their
feeds weren't even working for

544
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,960
the first 48 hours

545
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:06,990
saying that these targets are
chosen really by metadata

546
00:32:06,990 --> 00:32:10,740
analysis and phone tracking
rather than human intelligence

547
00:32:10,740 --> 00:32:14,040
on the ground. His reporting
partner Jeremy Scahill called it

548
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:18,510
quote, death by metadata,
entering an era of free crime or

549
00:32:18,510 --> 00:32:21,300
reference to the movie Minority
Report. Okay, so

550
00:32:21,330 --> 00:32:24,330
while this is taking place,
right now, we are seeing all

551
00:32:24,330 --> 00:32:26,520
kinds of movie clips. This is
another thing that happened in

552
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:32,280
the past 36 hours, 4836, maybe
48. We're seeing movie footage

553
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:35,910
references, they talk about
Minority Report. He's saying

554
00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:41,880
death by metadata data, which is
literally connecting the CIA

555
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,000
drone killings to the NSA
metadata.

556
00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:47,790
And what this does is it
encompasses two of the

557
00:32:47,790 --> 00:32:50,910
programmes Obama has expanded
while in office, both the drone

558
00:32:50,910 --> 00:32:54,030
programme, the NSA surveillance
programme, and of course, we'll

559
00:32:54,030 --> 00:32:56,130
have two programmes that he's
had trouble defending. And he's

560
00:32:56,130 --> 00:32:58,890
had to backtrack a bit now on
NSA mass surveillance. So it's,

561
00:32:58,950 --> 00:33:01,500
it's really getting into the two
of the most difficult areas for

562
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:03,900
President Obama in the national
security space.

563
00:33:03,930 --> 00:33:06,240
Now, this isn't as I said, the
timing of this was very

564
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,780
interesting. They rushed this
website out this WordPress blog.

565
00:33:10,410 --> 00:33:13,050
The feeds weren't working,
there's a lot of things were

566
00:33:13,050 --> 00:33:19,080
wrong. It just it was it was a
very end the story was right,

567
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,490
okay, so the terrorist, take
their SIM cards, jumble them up

568
00:33:23,490 --> 00:33:27,780
in a bag and somehow, you know,
then we can't find them track

569
00:33:27,780 --> 00:33:30,270
them. This is why we kill
innocent people. There's no

570
00:33:30,270 --> 00:33:33,990
human intelligence on the
ground. Sounds like bullcrap.

571
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:39,600
But it comes out on the same day
where we have this news, which

572
00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:42,930
all of a sudden appears in
Associated Press just out of the

573
00:33:42,930 --> 00:33:43,860
blue, another

574
00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:46,950
report than the AP today, for
anonymous officials basically

575
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:49,890
saying the US is currently
contemplating a targeted killing

576
00:33:49,890 --> 00:33:51,540
action against an American
citizen.

577
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:54,600
This story was strange to me for
a number of reasons. One,

578
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,030
why are they talking now? Two,
what is the purpose? And three,

579
00:33:57,030 --> 00:34:00,210
it seemed to kind of bury the
lead, which is that we've

580
00:34:00,210 --> 00:34:01,080
already done this. I'm

581
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,840
not quite clear. What would be
new here. How do you react to

582
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,080
that?

583
00:34:04,110 --> 00:34:08,040
Now this is the MSNBC and Jeremy
Scahill who of course, there is

584
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,910
some timing because the Oscars
are coming up in his Dirty Wars

585
00:34:11,910 --> 00:34:16,410
is nominated. But he's on every
single show, plugging the death

586
00:34:16,410 --> 00:34:20,550
by metadata connecting the NSA
to the droning. And we have the

587
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:24,990
story, all of a sudden, there's
some unnamed terrorist, an

588
00:34:24,990 --> 00:34:29,130
American in an unnamed place who
we need to go kill. And for some

589
00:34:29,130 --> 00:34:33,780
reason, exactly when this cover
story comes out, the Associated

590
00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:36,150
Press gets the announcement
about this from the

591
00:34:36,150 --> 00:34:38,190
administration. Interesting
timing.

592
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,200
Right. I mean, as you know,
because you've talked about

593
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,690
this, probably more than almost
anyone on corporate television.

594
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:45,390
You know, President Obama has
admitted that the US has killed

595
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,260
four US citizens and a drone
strike, the most prominent Anwar

596
00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:52,170
al aulaqi, this American
citizen, to me, Chris

597
00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:54,330
politically, this indicates that
the White House has already made

598
00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:57,120
a decision that they're going to
kill another American citizen

599
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,220
and they're sort of floating a
balloon out to the American

600
00:34:59,220 --> 00:35:02,730
public this way. is very, very
serious issues about the

601
00:35:02,730 --> 00:35:05,880
constitutionality of the drone
strike programme. Whether or not

602
00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:08,760
the US believes it can kill its
own citizens without even

603
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,250
charging them with a crime where
the President has sort of

604
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,890
Emperor like powers would be
something that our courts should

605
00:35:13,890 --> 00:35:16,470
take up very, very quickly. And
that should be the subject of

606
00:35:16,590 --> 00:35:19,440
much debate in Congress and not
just from the Rand Paul's, and

607
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,690
the Justin Amash is of the
world, it should be something

608
00:35:21,690 --> 00:35:23,550
that Democrats should actually
pay attention to.

609
00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:27,660
Now. I think Scahill is I think
he's just dumb. But I think, at

610
00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:29,550
least when he when he does
interviews, he's not the

611
00:35:29,550 --> 00:35:32,460
smartest guy he always divulge
just too much, I think. I think

612
00:35:32,460 --> 00:35:36,180
he's right about this. And there
is a reason that the

613
00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:40,290
administration wants to find out
if they can legally kill an

614
00:35:40,290 --> 00:35:43,350
American citizen. Of course,
broth is on the other side, he's

615
00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:44,700
just doing what he's supposed to
do.

616
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:48,660
Like a scene out of homeland
elite US forces mapping and

617
00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:50,430
alleged al Qaeda leader on the
street.

618
00:35:50,460 --> 00:35:54,180
This is very important, like a
scene out of homeland connecting

619
00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:58,740
your brain to Homeland and we're
seeing some grainy video footage

620
00:35:58,770 --> 00:36:02,640
in a matter of seconds. The
remarkable video is surfacing in

621
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,940
the midst of a new debate within
the Obama administration about

622
00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:09,720
his terrifying tactics, the key
question right now, should the

623
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:13,950
United States kill kill an
American citizens plotting an

624
00:36:13,950 --> 00:36:17,220
attack right now against the
United States kill,

625
00:36:17,250 --> 00:36:22,440
kill, kill kill. Then we have
David Martin of CBS, who's going

626
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,290
to give us the very short
version of what this is really

627
00:36:25,290 --> 00:36:29,640
about, and why we have this
homeland TV show like looking

628
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,820
footage all of a sudden popping
up with the news that we're

629
00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:36,030
going to kill a citizen with the
news that it's all the NSA is

630
00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:37,020
doing? Well, officials

631
00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:40,440
confirmed that, indeed, the
Obama administration is trying

632
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,130
to decide whether it can legally
launch a drone strike and

633
00:36:44,130 --> 00:36:48,300
against an American citizen, who
is working with al Qaeda in an

634
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:52,080
unnamed foreign country, in
effect execute him without a

635
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,080
trial. But the Justice
Department first has to make a

636
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,740
case that this American is
actively plotting to kill other

637
00:36:58,740 --> 00:37:03,360
Americans. And the Pentagon has
to determine there is no chance

638
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,350
to capture him alive and that a
drone strike would not cause

639
00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:08,430
civilian casualties.

640
00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:14,490
Okay, so now we have the the
everything is spread and set. So

641
00:37:14,490 --> 00:37:18,480
we need to prove that we can't
capture the guy and we need to

642
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:24,030
prove that there will be no
casualties, no civilian

643
00:37:24,030 --> 00:37:27,780
casualties. Now, the civilian
casualties will be covered by

644
00:37:27,780 --> 00:37:30,960
the NSA, because we're going to
have to change something there

645
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,960
so that the NSA is clearly
guilty of killing civilian

646
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:38,730
civilians. But at the same time
while this is happening,

647
00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:43,950
outcomes, add this footage from
Libya that proves that we know

648
00:37:43,950 --> 00:37:47,010
how to capture these guys we
just can't capture this guy

649
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,670
in this dramatic newly released
security camera footage newly

650
00:37:50,670 --> 00:37:54,390
released just coincidental
obtained by the Washington Post.

651
00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:58,560
A van pulls up next to a vehicle
on the streets of Tripoli,

652
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,870
Libya. Last October watch as US
Army Delta Force commandos jump

653
00:38:03,870 --> 00:38:08,280
out and grab on so Libby, an
alleged al Qaeda operative

654
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:12,510
alleged second, the suspect is
captured but raids like this one

655
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:15,510
aren't always an option for
terrorist suspects. The usual

656
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:17,220
option drone strikes.

657
00:38:18,089 --> 00:38:22,349
So we're set so obviously the
public now knows we know how to

658
00:38:22,349 --> 00:38:26,369
capture guys because you saw the
homeland TV show. You saw the

659
00:38:26,369 --> 00:38:30,359
footage that you saw the closed
caption grainy video we know how

660
00:38:30,359 --> 00:38:34,529
to do we just can't capture this
guy. Let's talk to some real

661
00:38:34,529 --> 00:38:40,949
experts. BBC has Alberto
Gonzalez. What do we know about

662
00:38:40,949 --> 00:38:42,329
Alberto Gonzalez? John?

663
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:50,760
Well, we know he was the stooge
that a lawyer that okayed the

664
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,300
torture,

665
00:38:51,569 --> 00:38:54,749
torture and wire the wire
warrantless wiretapping.

666
00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:57,390
Yeah, no, he's just the all in
on everything.

667
00:38:57,420 --> 00:39:02,760
And he actually wrote a large
portion of the drone rules of

668
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,530
engagement. And the BBC
unbelievably asks the right

669
00:39:07,530 --> 00:39:08,310
question.

670
00:39:09,330 --> 00:39:11,970
Well, I think that is a
challenge for the Obama

671
00:39:11,970 --> 00:39:17,400
administration in terms of the
whole process of deeming this

672
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,400
person that enemy combatant,
he's an American citizen, but

673
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,300
deeming him as a new combatant
is a process or protocol that

674
00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:27,990
involves solely the executive
branch. And it does call into

675
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:30,900
question whether or not this
American citizen is being

676
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:35,310
afforded due process and in the
process of designating him an

677
00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:38,370
enemy combatant. And that's the
challenge that I think the the

678
00:39:38,370 --> 00:39:41,970
President has even istration has
in the event that this issue

679
00:39:41,970 --> 00:39:45,690
ever becomes before a US Court,
which of

680
00:39:45,690 --> 00:39:48,600
course is exactly what we want,
because we want to have the

681
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,110
Supreme Court say this is all
okay, here comes the smart lady

682
00:39:52,110 --> 00:39:52,980
from the BBC.

683
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,480
You of course, were in the Bush
administration, as the drone

684
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,220
policy was being drawn up. It
sounds though, like you have

685
00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:06,330
some concerns about the White
House targeting an American

686
00:40:06,330 --> 00:40:07,350
citizen abroad?

687
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:12,120
Not necessarily I'm in favour of
a drone programme, I think it's

688
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,380
been very, very effective,

689
00:40:13,980 --> 00:40:16,830
obviously, might not be able to
get through a court of law.

690
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,550
Well, what I'm worried about is
that when the programme began,

691
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:24,450
of course, we didn't target
American citizens, as I recall.

692
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,380
And also we did

693
00:40:25,620 --> 00:40:29,280
not sure. But that's what I I'm
not sure I've done not what I

694
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:29,730
recall the

695
00:40:29,730 --> 00:40:33,000
benefit of Supreme Court
decisions that came about after

696
00:40:33,210 --> 00:40:37,140
the programme began. So we're
wiser today, we we now know, I

697
00:40:37,140 --> 00:40:39,150
think we have a better
understanding and feel as to

698
00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:42,240
where the court might go, if
this issue ever came before the

699
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:43,440
court to the pushing

700
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,920
this job. They know exactly what
they want. They need to get this

701
00:40:47,070 --> 00:40:50,070
for one reason, and one reason
only, so we can use drones on

702
00:40:50,070 --> 00:40:52,680
American citizens in the
homeland, wait for

703
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,090
it. So and I think that prudent
decision makers should be

704
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,600
cognizant of those decisions and
should take those decisions into

705
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,780
account in making decisions
about how we prosecute the war

706
00:41:03,780 --> 00:41:04,350
on terror.

707
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:07,260
But Mr. Cazale, is where does
this stop? I mean, you know,

708
00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:11,640
what, what's to prevent one day
the administration making a case

709
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,330
that it should I take out an
American citizen who's actually

710
00:41:15,330 --> 00:41:16,500
on American soil?

711
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,420
Well, I think that that presents
a much different scenario. There

712
00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:24,270
are additional constitutional
rights that would attach and I

713
00:41:24,270 --> 00:41:26,280
think the administration would
say that's not something we have

714
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,300
any interest in doing.

715
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:31,020
I love how that's pushed under
the rug. No, no, I wouldn't have

716
00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:34,380
no interest in doing that. We
have no interest in killing you

717
00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:36,000
in America. We're not interested

718
00:41:36,030 --> 00:41:38,490
that's not something that we
would ever consider. I would

719
00:41:38,490 --> 00:41:40,860
never consider that however,
when you think about the

720
00:41:40,860 --> 00:41:43,410
possibility the very real
possibility that the war on

721
00:41:43,410 --> 00:41:47,760
terror will be fought more
likely in the future on US soil

722
00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:50,040
may involve more likely in the
future.

723
00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:53,280
I'm sorry, this is this is
breaking news to me. It seems

724
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,490
like the war on terror will be
fought in on our own soil John

725
00:41:56,490 --> 00:41:59,400
this is seems like everyone's in
on this we're missing the memo.

726
00:42:00,450 --> 00:42:04,290
This is a very they would love
to have this go off like this.

727
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,070
Well listen to I think these
people are so deluded. Oh, no,

728
00:42:08,070 --> 00:42:11,490
no no no no witness by these
witnesses. This guy's

729
00:42:11,669 --> 00:42:16,919
this you want to hear diluted.
Erin Burnett, who's had her baby

730
00:42:16,919 --> 00:42:19,649
hit your face looks beautiful by
the way that you know after she

731
00:42:19,649 --> 00:42:23,249
had the kid as radiant very
radiant, but they're only

732
00:42:23,249 --> 00:42:29,699
showing neck they're not zooming
out which is I'm suspicious so

733
00:42:29,699 --> 00:42:33,959
she had general marks on whose
name is general spider marks

734
00:42:33,989 --> 00:42:38,399
this this would be a clue right
there. He's retired spider marks

735
00:42:38,399 --> 00:42:44,849
whose whose nickname is spider.
That's creepy. And he he's going

736
00:42:44,849 --> 00:42:48,569
to take it one step further here
is the the megalomania that is

737
00:42:48,569 --> 00:42:50,789
rampant in our governments. Also

738
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:53,790
the fact and I you know people
have have laughed at that at

739
00:42:53,820 --> 00:42:57,120
this point. But to me, it's very
important. That is if you're

740
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,490
going to have a conversation
about whether it's okay to kill

741
00:42:59,490 --> 00:43:02,520
an American who happens to be
overseas who's plotting attacks

742
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,880
against America? Suppose that
person was sitting in Des Moines

743
00:43:06,060 --> 00:43:08,730
or in Washington DC, all of a
sudden people go oh, well, that

744
00:43:08,730 --> 00:43:11,280
would be ridiculous. We would
never do it. intellectually.

745
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,430
It's the same person plotting
the same thing. If we would kill

746
00:43:14,430 --> 00:43:16,920
them with a drone overseas, it
would only be intellectually

747
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,200
consistent to be willing to do
it on American soil.

748
00:43:19,799 --> 00:43:25,889
My answer to that is why not?
Why not baby? exactly correct.

749
00:43:25,889 --> 00:43:29,219
In fact, go back to 1996 with
Timothy McVeigh Oh, and the

750
00:43:29,219 --> 00:43:30,029
Murrah Building

751
00:43:30,060 --> 00:43:33,150
in areas is McVeigh again, we've
heard this several times now in

752
00:43:33,150 --> 00:43:34,050
Oklahoma City.

753
00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:37,620
And the great tragedy that
occurred in that here's let's

754
00:43:37,650 --> 00:43:41,160
let's assume for a second that
drone technology existed, it did

755
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,790
not insufficient precision and
detail back then, but let's

756
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:48,450
assume intelligence was known
about McVeigh. His you is a

757
00:43:48,450 --> 00:43:51,780
rental truck was in route, the
rebuilding, we knew and

758
00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:54,840
positively identified that he
was in the vehicle, it was ready

759
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,420
to explode. And it was moving in
the direction of the Murrah

760
00:43:57,420 --> 00:44:00,540
Building. Why wouldn't we have
used a drone to go after that?

761
00:44:01,290 --> 00:44:04,290
Putting a bunch of law
enforcement folks at risk to

762
00:44:04,290 --> 00:44:05,370
stop that now instead?

763
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:09,060
Why should we forcement folks at
risk Yeah.

764
00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:12,840
Instead just explode this truck
in the middle of I don't know

765
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:17,220
the highway. This is this is
truly insanity. What this guy's

766
00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:22,770
talking about? Who is this idiot
general spider marks and never

767
00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:29,700
heard of him. Now? He's retired
general. These are x Ma, RK s.

768
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:33,330
He's insane. While you're
looking that up, I'll wind this

769
00:44:33,330 --> 00:44:38,580
up with both reiterating once
again, that it's the NSA droning

770
00:44:38,580 --> 00:44:39,930
people and not the CIA.

771
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,650
I want to make sure we heard
from you correctly about the

772
00:44:43,650 --> 00:44:47,190
NSA, the White House about these
allegations that the drone

773
00:44:47,340 --> 00:44:52,500
targeting uses cell phones
better data, what's going

774
00:44:52,529 --> 00:44:55,049
on with it? It focuses purely on
the SIGINT as they call it

775
00:44:55,049 --> 00:44:57,779
signals intelligence rather than
human intelligence sources on

776
00:44:57,779 --> 00:45:00,329
the ground. I was able to reach
out to a US into allegiance

777
00:45:00,329 --> 00:45:02,729
official also to the National
Security Council in the White

778
00:45:02,729 --> 00:45:05,159
House. And they say that for
obvious reasons why they can't

779
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:08,609
comment on specific intelligence
methods, they do make this point

780
00:45:08,609 --> 00:45:11,639
very strongly that quote, our
assessments are not based on a

781
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:14,609
single piece of information that
we gather and scrutinised

782
00:45:14,609 --> 00:45:17,729
information from a variety,
variety of sources and methods.

783
00:45:17,729 --> 00:45:20,159
They also pointed wolf to a
speech by the President last

784
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:23,249
May, when he talks specifically
about drone strikes, strikes as

785
00:45:23,249 --> 00:45:26,699
they relate to civilians, and he
said that we have to have near

786
00:45:26,699 --> 00:45:29,369
certainty that no civilians will
be killed or injured, the

787
00:45:29,369 --> 00:45:32,399
highest standard reconsent. So
pushing back very hard on this

788
00:45:32,399 --> 00:45:35,279
point that for any strike,
they're going to rely on any one

789
00:45:35,279 --> 00:45:36,779
single piece of information if

790
00:45:36,780 --> 00:45:40,200
there's no doubt that drone
strikes have escalated since

791
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,050
President Obama took office from
the Bush administration.

792
00:45:43,050 --> 00:45:43,590
Absolutely.

793
00:45:43,590 --> 00:45:46,350
Both. Both of these programmes
he inherited from the Bush

794
00:45:46,350 --> 00:45:48,630
administration NSA surveillance
and the drone strikes both

795
00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:50,070
expanded under Obama

796
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:54,780
Okay, so here's how I see the
whole thing this all comes out

797
00:45:54,780 --> 00:45:59,220
at the same time we have a rush
job of Greenwald's expensive

798
00:45:59,250 --> 00:46:07,020
blog coming out with a very not
even a nun it not even like a

799
00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:11,730
new story. But essentially
saying we've got a new guy, we

800
00:46:11,730 --> 00:46:15,690
have a new leaker whistleblower,
we can't tell you who he is. He

801
00:46:15,690 --> 00:46:19,050
used to operate drones. And he
says the NSA is to blame for

802
00:46:19,050 --> 00:46:23,790
civilian casualties at the same
time when all of a sudden for

803
00:46:23,790 --> 00:46:26,550
some reason we feel we have to
announce we're going to kill an

804
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:30,660
American citizen we need to find
out the legality Well, we can

805
00:46:30,660 --> 00:46:33,300
only do that if he's plotting
against the homeland if we

806
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:36,240
cannot capture him Oops, there's
the new capture video that shows

807
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:41,520
we do know how to capture we
just can't capture him I think

808
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,070
what's going to happen this I
think it's a red herring I think

809
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,370
what they're going to do is
they're going to have some kind

810
00:46:47,370 --> 00:46:53,880
of congressional hearing about
using SIM cards to track people

811
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:57,390
and they'll blame the NSA and
then someone will step up and

812
00:46:57,390 --> 00:46:59,850
say Oh, no problem we fixed it
we can you know, we're good to

813
00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:04,320
go. And meanwhile the CIA gets a
free pass

814
00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:16,050
Yeah, I'm not I don't know I'm
not i It's an interesting I

815
00:47:16,050 --> 00:47:19,950
can't I like what you you I
liked the basis for I like where

816
00:47:19,950 --> 00:47:24,300
you when you get the spider. But
after that, I'm not so sure that

817
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:27,120
this is gonna get anybody a free
pass for anything? I think it

818
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,600
is. Because for one thing, that
amount of tension is getting is

819
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:38,340
only on these, CNN and now, I
mean, they they play a bit of

820
00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:41,070
it, nobody cares. It's not
really getting any, you know,

821
00:47:41,070 --> 00:47:43,050
it's not getting any real
traction. You're right there

822
00:47:43,050 --> 00:47:46,530
will be a hearing. And they'll
get to the question of this then

823
00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:50,430
by the way, and it's so it's
such nonsense. One of the claims

824
00:47:50,430 --> 00:47:54,720
is that oh, all these guys get
together. It's like a swingers

825
00:47:54,720 --> 00:48:01,470
party comes out party and they
throw it into a hat and then you

826
00:48:01,470 --> 00:48:03,900
grab somebody else you grab a
sim and then you go off your

827
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:07,800
debt. Well, you can't be this
bullcrap because it makes Abdul

828
00:48:08,490 --> 00:48:14,040
Abdul is that you know this
Muhammad here at Where's Abdul?

829
00:48:14,070 --> 00:48:17,370
I don't know. He just grabbed a
random seed. It's just gonna

830
00:48:17,370 --> 00:48:18,690
happen to make 100 Call

831
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:23,130
note I write I heard this too. I
was thinking to myself This

832
00:48:23,130 --> 00:48:25,860
makes absolutely no sense

833
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:30,030
no, it makes no sense at all.

834
00:48:30,060 --> 00:48:34,050
It's like oh, yeah, I want to
play roulette I might I might be

835
00:48:34,050 --> 00:48:35,760
the guy who gets the bad sim

836
00:48:37,260 --> 00:48:41,280
that's the other thing I just
keep my phone off yeah. Well

837
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,860
that we know that doesn't be on
run when I was we know that

838
00:48:43,860 --> 00:48:48,210
doesn't matter. Sim now this
bull crap. Yeah. Well, we have

839
00:48:48,210 --> 00:48:50,850
the W didn't get any of the I'm
surprised how many clips because

840
00:48:50,850 --> 00:48:54,150
they Scahill and greenwall. Were
on Democracy Now talking about

841
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:58,500
this. And it was interesting
because you do when you watch

842
00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:04,350
this just as a quick analysis.
Greenwald and Scahill are not

843
00:49:04,350 --> 00:49:07,800
going to get along. No. They're
two different kinds of

844
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,540
personalities. Greenwald can't
stop talking. yak yak, yak, yak,

845
00:49:12,540 --> 00:49:16,500
yak, yak yak. When you play a
little bit of the of the clip

846
00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:20,940
that is coming to Rogers versus
Glenn Greenwald clip

847
00:49:21,900 --> 00:49:23,010
Devki

848
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,770
for the hearing ended, he
reportedly said quote for

849
00:49:25,770 --> 00:49:28,440
personal gain. He's now selling
his access to information.

850
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,430
That's how they're terming it a
thief selling stolen material is

851
00:49:32,430 --> 00:49:35,490
a thief. So the head of the
House Intelligence Committee,

852
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,230
your response? Well, first of

853
00:49:37,230 --> 00:49:41,880
all, Mike Rogers is a liar. He's
outright lying when he says that

854
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,120
I or any other journalists
working on this case. Okay,

855
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,200
I gotta stop. This is not what
Mike Rogers said. He was very

856
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,760
smart about it. And this is now
being twisted. He never said I'm

857
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,480
not defending the guy but we
played this clip. He did not say

858
00:49:58,350 --> 00:50:02,640
grant grant Greenwald stole This
he said if someone steals

859
00:50:03,210 --> 00:50:03,990
offences

860
00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:05,850
stolen That's what she said

861
00:50:07,350 --> 00:50:11,160
that's not exactly what she said
and and now I

862
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:15,000
know she knows she was she
doesn't say Glenn Greenwald in

863
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,370
that clip to have her you can
back it up and listen again

864
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,070
because she read from the from
the transcript insinuate

865
00:50:20,070 --> 00:50:23,250
something which is not entirely
true and Greenwald he's the liar

866
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,810
he's lying right now for the
hearing

867
00:50:24,810 --> 00:50:27,870
ended he reportedly said quote
for personal gain he's now

868
00:50:27,870 --> 00:50:30,120
selling his access to
information. That's how they're

869
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:30,720
Turkish she

870
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:33,630
said something else after the
hearing ended he reportedly said

871
00:50:33,630 --> 00:50:37,020
so she has nothing that's just
made up stuff. That's not even

872
00:50:37,020 --> 00:50:37,590
from the hearing.

873
00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:42,540
A thief selling stolen material
is a thief to the head of the

874
00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:45,570
House Intelligence Committee,
your response? Well, first of

875
00:50:45,570 --> 00:50:50,220
all, Mike Rogers is a liar. He's
outright lying when he says that

876
00:50:50,220 --> 00:50:53,760
I or any other journalists
working on this case, sold

877
00:50:53,790 --> 00:50:59,040
documents or fence documents.
The one thing that's missing

878
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,940
from his accusations is any
evidence because none exist and

879
00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:07,710
I defy him to present any but
that's what Mike Rogers does to

880
00:51:07,710 --> 00:51:11,940
he is he just lies and smears
people with no evidence. But I

881
00:51:11,940 --> 00:51:15,180
think the more important point
than the fact that Mike Rogers

882
00:51:15,180 --> 00:51:19,140
is is a pathological liar is the
fact that this is part of a

883
00:51:19,140 --> 00:51:22,590
broader campaign on the part of
the Obama administration, as

884
00:51:22,590 --> 00:51:26,550
Jeremy said, to try and either
threatened journalists that they

885
00:51:26,550 --> 00:51:30,180
will be criminalised or outright
criminalise them by prosecuting

886
00:51:30,180 --> 00:51:33,210
us. For the journalism that
we're doing. It comes in the

887
00:51:33,210 --> 00:51:35,850
context of this coordinated
campaign to call us accomplices

888
00:51:35,850 --> 00:51:38,580
by President Obama's top
national security official,

889
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:42,210
which is another thing I do want
to point out. No one has

890
00:51:42,210 --> 00:51:47,190
actually called Glenn Greenwald
and accomplice. No one has even

891
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:50,580
insinuated that journalists are
accomplices, I want to I have

892
00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:53,490
listened very, very carefully.
And these guys are way too

893
00:51:53,490 --> 00:51:54,360
small. But what

894
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,820
to you? Yeah, but I don't care
how carefully you listen, this

895
00:51:56,820 --> 00:51:59,970
is what the insinuation is, I
disagree. This is the point to

896
00:51:59,970 --> 00:52:02,490
trying to make to the American
public that these guys are part

897
00:52:02,490 --> 00:52:05,520
and parcel and you ask people,
is he a traitor? Or a

898
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,620
whistleblower? That question
alone implies something bad,

899
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,900
something bad is going on with
these people, and they're

900
00:52:12,900 --> 00:52:16,470
obviously accomplices of some
sort? I mean, I'm not buying

901
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:19,770
your argument here at all. I
don't know how you can defend

902
00:52:19,770 --> 00:52:21,900
these guys. I'm not even though
they're not saying Glenn

903
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:24,450
Greenwald? No, I they are saying

904
00:52:24,990 --> 00:52:28,050
they're saying, Sorry. They're
saying they're not saying

905
00:52:28,050 --> 00:52:32,310
journalists were accomplices
that has not been said once. And

906
00:52:32,310 --> 00:52:35,610
I'm not just FEMP and say, I'm
defending the fact. John, I'm

907
00:52:35,610 --> 00:52:36,810
not defending I hate bill,

908
00:52:36,810 --> 00:52:39,240
you're in defended all you want.
And I think is you're right.

909
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:41,910
They didn't specifically say
that. But that is just parsing

910
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:46,470
what what their implications are
not true mentioned, Joe.

911
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:51,300
Well, no, no, you're the context
in which the accomplished is

912
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:59,640
mentioned was made was in the
context of FSB, Russia being a

913
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,590
trader, not in the context of
giving documents to journalists.

914
00:53:04,620 --> 00:53:07,200
I'm sorry, that's just not the
context in which it was said,

915
00:53:07,290 --> 00:53:11,490
even though I agree that this is
now being used that way. And for

916
00:53:11,490 --> 00:53:14,250
specific reasons, but that is
not the context in which that

917
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,150
specific thing was said it was
in the context of Russia selling

918
00:53:18,330 --> 00:53:23,070
to Russia, and China. And that's
the context of the accomplices

919
00:53:23,070 --> 00:53:28,320
not journalist. I'm sorry.
That's just fact. That's all.

920
00:53:28,589 --> 00:53:31,499
So you don't say so that just
the stuff you played in the last

921
00:53:31,499 --> 00:53:37,619
show, where we're Rogers was
implying that is not without

922
00:53:37,619 --> 00:53:42,629
using Greenwald's name. He was
going out of his way to imply

923
00:53:42,869 --> 00:53:46,019
that Greenwald or one of these
other guys should be arrested.

924
00:53:46,049 --> 00:53:46,679
Yes, he

925
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,420
was. Well, then

926
00:53:48,420 --> 00:53:49,830
what are you talking about?
Because

927
00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:53,760
I'm just talking about facts,
John, that's all. I'm just

928
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,920
saying. That's not true. This is
two separate instances. What

929
00:53:58,950 --> 00:54:02,310
what he was saying what Rogers
was saying he was making a

930
00:54:02,310 --> 00:54:05,610
connection between selling
stolen goods and stolen

931
00:54:05,610 --> 00:54:08,400
documents. He did not say he did
not say anything. What he

932
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,630
implied was obvious, was
obvious. He did not say what Amy

933
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:15,990
Goodman just said that,
allegedly, there's no transcript

934
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:19,530
of that. I never heard that. And
I'm saying that the accomplices

935
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,920
piece which was a different
hearing was said in a different

936
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,040
context. It doesn't mean that
it's not so I'm just saying a

937
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,870
fact get over it. I'm not
defending anybody but fact. Not

938
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:31,740
a big deal.

939
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:38,370
Oh, I didn't even bring this
little clip up for this purpose

940
00:54:38,370 --> 00:54:41,490
of the for this purpose of
debate. I know but that's why it

941
00:54:41,490 --> 00:54:44,940
shouldn't be fine. Yeah. They
never mentioned Greenwald. And,

942
00:54:45,150 --> 00:54:45,570
you know,

943
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,880
a cop key is what I'm saying is
Greenwald is pulling this

944
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,770
towards himself. And he loves
it. And that's okay. But he's

945
00:54:55,770 --> 00:54:56,430
wrong

946
00:54:56,460 --> 00:54:59,490
was kind of the point of this
clip. I know because I want to

947
00:54:59,490 --> 00:55:01,800
contract As Tim was what what?
No, you're the one that brought

948
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,410
all this other stuff up by
Greenwell being the liar. He's

949
00:55:04,410 --> 00:55:04,890
lying

950
00:55:04,890 --> 00:55:07,140
right here. He's lying. That's
all I'm just want to point out.

951
00:55:09,269 --> 00:55:12,989
He's lying when he says that.
What? What's What's his lie

952
00:55:13,049 --> 00:55:17,429
that that Mike Rogers called him
an accomplice, that is a lie.

953
00:55:17,459 --> 00:55:21,089
That is not it's what he wants.
And it was not what Rogers

954
00:55:21,089 --> 00:55:24,989
implied in that in that instance
that's all. Greenwald is lying

955
00:55:24,989 --> 00:55:28,139
to him he knows it but he likes
it. He wants to be he wants to

956
00:55:28,140 --> 00:55:30,630
be targeted. Listen to it.
Again. He's not saying that he

957
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:34,140
just says Mike Rogers is a liar
is a pathological liar any hot

958
00:55:34,290 --> 00:55:41,160
and he harps on it. Is there
anywhere in there that he says

959
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,620
that Mike Rogers called him an
accomplice? Yes. So the

960
00:55:43,620 --> 00:55:46,800
hearing ended he reportedly said
quote for personal gain. He's

961
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,230
now selling his access to
information. That's how they're

962
00:55:49,230 --> 00:55:50,400
terming it a thief.

963
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:53,009
So I'd like to know where this
came from. Because I this is

964
00:55:53,009 --> 00:55:53,399
nowhere

965
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:57,210
selling stolen material is a
thief said the head of the House

966
00:55:57,210 --> 00:55:59,190
Intelligence Committee. Your
response?

967
00:55:59,490 --> 00:56:03,870
Well, first of all, Mike Rogers
is a liar. He's outright lying

968
00:56:03,870 --> 00:56:06,360
when he says that I or any other
journalists working on this

969
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:11,610
case, sold documents or fence
documents.

970
00:56:12,149 --> 00:56:14,879
The one thing missing, though he
didn't say that we don't know

971
00:56:14,879 --> 00:56:15,929
that he said that. But okay,

972
00:56:15,959 --> 00:56:19,859
from his accusations is any
evidence because none exist, and

973
00:56:19,859 --> 00:56:24,329
I defy him to present any but
that's what Mike Rogers does.

974
00:56:24,329 --> 00:56:28,499
It's who he is. He just lies and
smears people with no evidence.

975
00:56:28,679 --> 00:56:31,679
But I think the more important
point than the fact that Mike

976
00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:35,939
Rogers is is a pathological liar
is the fact that this is part of

977
00:56:35,939 --> 00:56:39,539
a broader campaign on the part
of the Obama administration, as

978
00:56:39,539 --> 00:56:43,499
Jeremy said, to try and either
threatened journalists that they

979
00:56:43,499 --> 00:56:47,129
will be criminalised or outright
criminalise them by prosecuting

980
00:56:47,129 --> 00:56:50,159
us. For the journalism that
we're doing. It comes in the

981
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:52,829
context of this coordinated
campaign to call us accomplices.

982
00:56:52,890 --> 00:56:57,900
That's what I'm saying. That is
not factual. That's all

983
00:56:57,930 --> 00:57:00,870
by President Obama's top
national security official Keith

984
00:57:00,870 --> 00:57:04,350
Alexander, two months ago, in
his speech raised this idea of

985
00:57:04,350 --> 00:57:07,080
selling documents when we did
our first report in Canada with

986
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,470
the CBC, the right wing, Harper
government attacked us as having

987
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:15,900
sold documents to the CBC. And
so what you're really seeing is

988
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:18,900
the Obama ministration has been
worse on press freedoms than any

989
00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:21,810
president since President Nixon
is James good all the former New

990
00:57:21,810 --> 00:57:23,280
York Times national General
Counsel,

991
00:57:23,490 --> 00:57:29,160
you can stop him because he goes
on for another hour. So okay, so

992
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,940
Scahill, which is the point I'm
trying to make here. Scahill who

993
00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:36,180
will not get along. I guarantee
it over time, but I'll give it

994
00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:40,980
six months, will not be able to
get along with Greenwell because

995
00:57:40,980 --> 00:57:44,430
Scahill is one of these picky
guys who likes to throw out

996
00:57:44,430 --> 00:57:47,160
little details and like you said
talks too much and brings out

997
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,720
too much. This is an example of
when Scahill gets back in there.

998
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:55,350
He's asked a question but
immediately has to rebut

999
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,200
Greenwald before he can answer
the other question. This is the

1000
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,730
comparison clip Jeremy

1001
00:57:59,730 --> 00:58:02,940
to the J sock operator's
account. I'm sorry.

1002
00:58:03,210 --> 00:58:06,510
I'm sorry, wrong clip. One clip
I didn't understand. Here we go.

1003
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,140
Jeremy Scahill, if you'd like to
expand on this, the Associated

1004
00:58:10,140 --> 00:58:12,600
Press has agreed to the
government's request to withhold

1005
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,120
the name of the country where
the suspected terrorist is

1006
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,820
believed to be because official
said publishing it could

1007
00:58:17,820 --> 00:58:21,630
interrupt ongoing counter terror
operations in later part of the

1008
00:58:21,630 --> 00:58:24,690
piece. It says one US official
said the defence department was

1009
00:58:24,690 --> 00:58:28,140
divided over the woman whether
the man is dangerous enough to

1010
00:58:28,140 --> 00:58:31,440
merit the potential domestic
fallout of killing an American

1011
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,530
without charging him with a
crime or trying him and the

1012
00:58:34,530 --> 00:58:37,320
potential international fallout
of Section operation in a

1013
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,250
country that's been resistant to
us action. Another of the US

1014
00:58:41,250 --> 00:58:44,760
officials said the Pentagon did
ultimately decide to recommend

1015
00:58:44,790 --> 00:58:45,960
lethal action.

1016
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,020
Right, you know, I mean, again,
I mean, we haven't I haven't

1017
00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:52,320
seen this this piece yet. But
you know, there are a number of

1018
00:58:52,350 --> 00:58:56,610
Americans who we already
understand have been cleared at

1019
00:58:56,610 --> 00:59:00,630
some point over the past several
years for being hit in these

1020
00:59:00,630 --> 00:59:04,200
targeted strikes. One of the My
understanding is a guy named

1021
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:09,720
Adam Gadon, who is basically a
propagandist for al Qaeda is a

1022
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:10,860
US citizen and we'll

1023
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,360
just the comparison

1024
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:16,200
is this your you playing
comparison? Clip Scahill betters

1025
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,670
Greenwald? Yes, I am.

1026
00:59:19,950 --> 00:59:23,070
That's the clip I'm playing
doesn't even sound like him. But

1027
00:59:23,070 --> 00:59:25,860
that's him, though. We have
another minute.

1028
00:59:26,279 --> 00:59:30,089
Doesn't this clip like I miss it
labelled a clip. In this clip,

1029
00:59:30,089 --> 00:59:34,949
he actually identifies the guy
that's going to be executed or

1030
00:59:34,949 --> 00:59:37,139
the guy that's under debate,
which I thought was weird,

1031
00:59:37,139 --> 00:59:39,269
because nobody else has
mentioned this guy. But he

1032
00:59:39,269 --> 00:59:40,469
doesn't say it's Adam.

1033
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:42,930
He's saying it's Adam. Good Don.
I thought he was already dead.

1034
00:59:45,150 --> 00:59:48,870
I don't think Adam good. Don is
dead. I think he'd have been

1035
00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:51,630
mentioned since he's an American
if he's had been killed by us.

1036
00:59:52,020 --> 00:59:54,540
Oh, hold on a second. I always
thought he was already he'd

1037
00:59:54,540 --> 01:00:00,090
already been droned. Let's see.
I have to consult the book. have

1038
01:00:00,090 --> 01:00:02,550
knowledge that would be very
interesting. If it was him,

1039
01:00:02,940 --> 01:00:04,800
we'll play the rest of it
because he does have a couple of

1040
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,390
interesting tidbits occasionally

1041
01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:09,960
be running his mouth off on, you
know, on videos around the

1042
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,650
world, I have no knowledge of
what he may or may not be

1043
01:00:13,860 --> 01:00:16,710
involved with. But we do know
that the United States doesn't

1044
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:20,700
have a problem with killing
American citizens without

1045
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:22,740
presenting any evidence against
them. And I think that's the

1046
01:00:22,740 --> 01:00:26,490
real issue here. You know, the,
the guy, the current guidelines

1047
01:00:26,940 --> 01:00:31,170
that the White House is using,
still permit the killing of

1048
01:00:31,170 --> 01:00:34,230
Americans and non Americans on a
regular basis around the world

1049
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:37,290
using these drones. And I think
that, to an extent, the White

1050
01:00:37,290 --> 01:00:40,830
House has started to believe its
own propaganda about how precise

1051
01:00:40,830 --> 01:00:44,400
these strikes actually are, in
part, because when they when

1052
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,890
they get a cell phone, or they
blow up someone's cell phone,

1053
01:00:47,460 --> 01:00:50,910
they're told up well, we got the
target. And in the jargon, of

1054
01:00:50,910 --> 01:00:53,340
the operators who do these
missions, you know, when you get

1055
01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:56,670
the phone itself, it's called
the jackpot. And when you

1056
01:00:56,670 --> 01:00:59,910
confirm that you've actually
killed the target. It's called

1057
01:00:59,910 --> 01:01:02,970
the touchdown. So how often are
these jackpots being passed up

1058
01:01:02,970 --> 01:01:06,180
to the White House, as you know,
touchdowns as confirmation that

1059
01:01:06,180 --> 01:01:09,390
they've killed the individuals
in question, but I do think it's

1060
01:01:09,390 --> 01:01:13,230
chilling, that we live in an era
where a man who won the Nobel

1061
01:01:13,230 --> 01:01:15,780
Peace Prize and is a
constitutional lawyer by

1062
01:01:15,780 --> 01:01:21,240
training is streamlining and
creating a mechanism for making

1063
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:26,520
assassination including of US
citizens, a normal part of our

1064
01:01:26,550 --> 01:01:28,470
what's called our national
security policy.

1065
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,990
So here's I agree with you that
they will not last together. And

1066
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:39,240
here's the reason why. Glenn
Greenwald is in on this game. He

1067
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,050
has been in on it from day one.
He's been in on it since his

1068
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,980
days being funded by Adobe at
Salon, which is a complete Adobe

1069
01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:51,570
funded operation. He's been they
must have something on him. I'm

1070
01:01:51,570 --> 01:01:57,960
sure. He sent his boyfriend
purposely through London. He

1071
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,850
leaks his own though his own
news to BuzzFeed about his great

1072
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:10,800
new venture with peer drive my
car, the guy is in on it. And

1073
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,740
when the script screws up,
because believe me clappers not

1074
01:02:13,770 --> 01:02:17,340
he's, he's dumb, but he can he
can read most of the script most

1075
01:02:17,340 --> 01:02:21,600
of the time. And even the
Guardian is is drawing all these

1076
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,780
conclusions and when when it
doesn't, when the script doesn't

1077
01:02:24,780 --> 01:02:28,410
go right then Glenn will pull it
towards himself. And this is

1078
01:02:28,410 --> 01:02:31,380
ultimately for the media shield
law and Glenn Greenwald will get

1079
01:02:31,410 --> 01:02:35,550
a licence. But he's in on it.
This guy is in on it. I'm sorry.

1080
01:02:35,550 --> 01:02:38,550
And I think ski hills not I
think scale this that's his

1081
01:02:38,550 --> 01:02:42,270
problem that he's, he's real.
And he's going to start messing

1082
01:02:42,270 --> 01:02:45,660
up and saying too much, which is
exactly what happened when this

1083
01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:48,840
whole venture leaked. So called
leaked through BuzzFeed by

1084
01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:52,710
Greenwald himself. He's in he's
in on it. He's, he's in on it

1085
01:02:52,710 --> 01:02:56,010
with Snowden. It's, you know,
call it whatever you want

1086
01:02:56,010 --> 01:03:00,480
limited Hangout, whatever it is,
and it's all to to rein in the

1087
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,500
NSA and cover up what the CIA is
really doing. That's all I can

1088
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:04,950
see.

1089
01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:08,520
Well, I'm not going to disagree
with that because I think that's

1090
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,990
been our premise all along. But
Greenwald is so good at this the

1091
01:03:12,990 --> 01:03:15,390
thing that I think is gonna get,
here's your here's the problem.

1092
01:03:15,390 --> 01:03:17,760
If you're working in this
publication, I'm Scahill

1093
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:19,800
Greenwell is really the editor.

1094
01:03:20,010 --> 01:03:23,190
He even has his own little
section there on the masthead is

1095
01:03:23,340 --> 01:03:28,020
you get like everyone else in is
is under news and he's got his

1096
01:03:28,020 --> 01:03:29,430
own thing, his own button.

1097
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,390
So he's editing himself, which
is always a bad thing for guys

1098
01:03:33,390 --> 01:03:39,090
who aren't do or got an agenda.
And his the latest thing and

1099
01:03:39,090 --> 01:03:41,580
what I was getting out of these
clips, including this one, the

1100
01:03:41,610 --> 01:03:44,520
the clip you want to play now is
will Glenn Greenwald, come back

1101
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:50,550
to the US, he is setting himself
up as martyr. I mean, he's not

1102
01:03:50,550 --> 01:03:57,030
an idiot, he is setting himself
up for a series of some sub, but

1103
01:03:57,030 --> 01:04:01,200
close to million dollar speeches
on a circuit in the US that's

1104
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,190
gonna He's gonna walk away with
five plus million dollars on the

1105
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:08,040
speaker circuit. I agree,
because that's what everything

1106
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,310
I've watched him do has been
leading up to this. And this

1107
01:04:11,310 --> 01:04:15,600
clip kind of to me, gives it
away that he's, you know, he's

1108
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,910
got some plans ahead. Our
lawyers,

1109
01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:20,640
they obviously want to keep us
in a state of uncertainty. And

1110
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,490
this recent escalation of
rhetoric and accusations

1111
01:04:23,490 --> 01:04:27,090
obviously makes that concern,
more acute at the same time just

1112
01:04:27,090 --> 01:04:30,120
on principle, as an American
citizen, I refuse to be kept out

1113
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:34,110
of my own country, for the crime
of doing journalism. And so I

1114
01:04:34,140 --> 01:04:37,020
absolutely will come back. I'm
going to pick the time to do it

1115
01:04:37,020 --> 01:04:40,500
when I feel like I understand
the risks and am as protected as

1116
01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:43,260
I can be. But under no
circumstances will I allow this

1117
01:04:43,260 --> 01:04:46,440
intimidation campaign to succeed
either in deterring me from

1118
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,510
doing the journalism I do or
returning to the country of

1119
01:04:48,510 --> 01:04:49,290
which I'm a citizen.

1120
01:04:51,180 --> 01:04:55,530
Yeah, yeah, he's, you know, he's
gonna get detained and you'll be

1121
01:04:55,530 --> 01:04:59,550
tweeting about it. He's,

1122
01:04:59,580 --> 01:05:01,410
he's be detained like you were.

1123
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,220
Yeah, of course and like Laura
Poitras says she's been and like

1124
01:05:05,370 --> 01:05:09,510
Jacob Appelbaum says he always
is and all these people they

1125
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:10,110
know. Yeah,

1126
01:05:10,170 --> 01:05:11,700
yeah. Where's the videos? Yeah.

1127
01:05:14,190 --> 01:05:18,900
So, Greenwald is just in on it,
he's just in any swarmy smarmy,

1128
01:05:18,900 --> 01:05:24,480
he's icky. And that in that
opening piece on the intercept

1129
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:29,010
was shite. Nothing new with
your, with your anonymous

1130
01:05:29,010 --> 01:05:33,630
source. Oh, no, no, no, no, I'm
not buying any of this.

1131
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,900
So play this clip, because I
thought this was the clip that

1132
01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:43,740
you already played. Kill a third
American clip

1133
01:05:45,030 --> 01:05:50,040
on a piece that has just come
out from Associated Press, us

1134
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,910
suspect possibly targeted for
drone attack. It's by Kimberly

1135
01:05:53,910 --> 01:05:58,110
Dozier AP intelligence, right,
or just the first paragraph says

1136
01:05:58,110 --> 01:06:02,100
an American citizen, who is a
member of al Qaeda is actively

1137
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:05,070
planning attacks against
American Overseas Americans

1138
01:06:05,070 --> 01:06:08,520
overseas, US officials say and
the Obama administration is

1139
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,510
wrestling with whether to kill
him with a drone strike and how

1140
01:06:12,510 --> 01:06:17,040
to do so legally under its new
stricter targeting policy issued

1141
01:06:17,250 --> 01:06:19,380
last year. Your comment?

1142
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,990
I haven't seen the article yet.
But that first paragraph should

1143
01:06:24,990 --> 01:06:28,500
be shocking to every American
and yet at this point, I think

1144
01:06:28,500 --> 01:06:32,370
we're probably all kind of
accustomed to, to it, despite

1145
01:06:32,370 --> 01:06:34,020
how radical it is, was that

1146
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:35,850
your mind just wanted to say

1147
01:06:35,940 --> 01:06:38,220
that's good. You're messed up or
you're mumbling.

1148
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,910
The last one, I just want to
play this because again, Scahill

1149
01:06:41,910 --> 01:06:44,850
is trying to one up this the
thing is going to really cause

1150
01:06:44,850 --> 01:06:48,960
some problems. Scahill shows
that he actually has some

1151
01:06:49,020 --> 01:06:52,980
connections, besides just a
bunch of papers that Snowden

1152
01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:56,340
handed over to us. Greenwald,

1153
01:06:56,549 --> 01:06:59,609
a tarball from a recursive curl.
Yeah.

1154
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,470
So he keeps throwing this kind
of thing. And this is the ski

1155
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:08,670
hill, de ski hill track and
whacking little thing tidbit and

1156
01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:11,610
he caught in this discussion,
which went on forever, mostly

1157
01:07:11,610 --> 01:07:14,580
with Greenwald talking. Every
time scale came in, he throw in

1158
01:07:14,580 --> 01:07:18,390
some, some, I don't know,
uninteresting, but kind of

1159
01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:24,780
interesting. inside baseball,
the Star Trek II guy. Fact, that

1160
01:07:24,780 --> 01:07:27,780
was, you know, he must know
somebody to get this. And even

1161
01:07:27,780 --> 01:07:29,100
though it could be bull crap,

1162
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:34,800
Jeremy to the J sock operators
account, you quote in this first

1163
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:39,390
piece for the intercept.org
Brandon Bryant, talk about the

1164
01:07:39,390 --> 01:07:43,980
significance of his experience
and who he is. First, just

1165
01:07:43,980 --> 01:07:46,350
just something to follow up on
what Glenn says, you know, the

1166
01:07:46,380 --> 01:07:49,170
the, the teams from the NSA that
are involved with this programme

1167
01:07:49,170 --> 01:07:53,070
are called geocell geolocation
cells. And their motto is we

1168
01:07:53,070 --> 01:07:56,400
track them, you whack them,
meaning that the NSA will find

1169
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,890
these individuals and then the
military or the CIA will

1170
01:07:58,890 --> 01:08:03,360
actually conduct or carry out
these hits. And that's the other

1171
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,790
question that we're talking
about, about the relevance for

1172
01:08:05,790 --> 01:08:06,960
people in the United States.

1173
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,350
Yeah, this is not new. By the
way. We already heard this. This

1174
01:08:10,350 --> 01:08:11,610
is all old news.

1175
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,140
Yeah, well, he's not gonna let
Greenwald blather on for hours,

1176
01:08:16,170 --> 01:08:19,620
right? With no facts, just
bitching and moaning, which is

1177
01:08:19,620 --> 01:08:21,780
what he does. I know if you've
listened to Greenwald. There's

1178
01:08:21,780 --> 01:08:22,920
actually nothing

1179
01:08:23,700 --> 01:08:26,910
he says. And then he's on the
satellite. And when someone you

1180
01:08:26,910 --> 01:08:28,800
know what, there's always that
satellite delay and he'll be

1181
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,220
talking so I'm going to talk and
then you're going to pretend

1182
01:08:32,220 --> 01:08:35,340
like you want to, you're going
to go up, Mr. Mr. Greenwald.

1183
01:08:35,370 --> 01:08:38,940
Okay. Okay, here I go. So, yes,
and of course, we've been named

1184
01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:41,340
accomplices and clappers an
incredible lie, and everyone's

1185
01:08:41,340 --> 01:08:47,700
just a big liar. And that's how
he does it. Have you ever

1186
01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:48,300
noticed that

1187
01:08:49,950 --> 01:08:51,390
he raises his voice

1188
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,050
to shout over you on the
satellite delay?

1189
01:08:56,580 --> 01:08:57,870
He's got to stop doing that.

1190
01:08:58,290 --> 01:09:01,140
We actually have to find some
examples of that. Oh, we've

1191
01:09:01,140 --> 01:09:03,660
played examples of it where we
were laughing. I know but we

1192
01:09:03,660 --> 01:09:07,980
didn't think of it in those
terms. He just likes to be on he

1193
01:09:07,980 --> 01:09:11,160
just likes to Yak. Yeah, guy is
a chatterbox. Yes,

1194
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:16,980
it's exactly what he likes to
do. And so someone sent me the

1195
01:09:16,980 --> 01:09:21,810
guardian. And so here is clapper
called on Snowden and his

1196
01:09:21,810 --> 01:09:24,780
accomplices to return the
documents the former National

1197
01:09:24,780 --> 01:09:29,340
Security Agency contractor took
and now the guardian of course

1198
01:09:29,340 --> 01:09:35,670
wants to know, rectify, though,
clarify this. And clapper

1199
01:09:35,670 --> 01:09:39,120
Spokesman Sean Turner clarified
Director Clapper was referring

1200
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,940
to anyone who was assisting
Edward Snowden to further

1201
01:09:41,940 --> 01:09:49,080
threaten our national security
but it's it's it's drawing the

1202
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,440
attention to himself as what he
does. And he does that through

1203
01:09:52,440 --> 01:09:57,240
his incessant yakking. And it's
also horrible. Yeah, it is.

1204
01:09:57,270 --> 01:10:01,770
Absolutely. If If it really was
and everyone loves Glenn

1205
01:10:01,770 --> 01:10:04,980
Greenwald resolve where was
everybody on the day we fight

1206
01:10:04,980 --> 01:10:10,950
back? What happened there? That
was February,

1207
01:10:11,699 --> 01:10:12,869
the day after it happened me

1208
01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:19,560
too. The day we fight back and
of course the reason is that

1209
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:24,000
Wikipedia and read it and Google
and no one participated. You put

1210
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,900
a little banner because they
really don't want to stop.

1211
01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:34,380
What's going on. That's what's
happening. This was supposed to

1212
01:10:34,380 --> 01:10:38,580
be the big O. This was supposed
to be SOPA SOPA PIPA two

1213
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:46,650
well, it wasn't I don't even
know who was behind it.

1214
01:10:47,370 --> 01:10:50,940
EFF I think was the main No,
they

1215
01:10:50,940 --> 01:10:51,660
gotta Well,

1216
01:10:52,260 --> 01:10:55,230
it was supposed to be Silicon
Valley. It was supposed to be

1217
01:10:55,230 --> 01:11:00,510
here we go. Here at EFF Demand
Progress. ACLU Reddit credo

1218
01:11:00,630 --> 01:11:05,730
Greenpeace web. We want thought
works. Duck Duck, go Mozilla

1219
01:11:05,730 --> 01:11:11,220
Tumblr. The Wikimedia where was
everyone shutting stuff down

1220
01:11:11,220 --> 01:11:14,580
like the last time they didn't
do it. Why? Because they don't

1221
01:11:14,580 --> 01:11:21,810
really want this to stop. That's
why the day we fight back.org.

1222
01:11:23,970 --> 01:11:24,630
It was I

1223
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:29,190
went to an event, I went to an
event last night. I got out of

1224
01:11:29,190 --> 01:11:32,970
the house and went to an event.
It was supposedly they said that

1225
01:11:32,970 --> 01:11:36,330
denote can't do any reporting on
this, although that you could

1226
01:11:36,330 --> 01:11:38,730
tweet about it, which I figured
well, this is the same thing

1227
01:11:38,730 --> 01:11:43,260
doing a podcast. So I can report
on it. But the but all the data

1228
01:11:43,260 --> 01:11:47,700
is publicly available. So as
Richard Richard Edelman, the

1229
01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:51,270
head of the large public
relations company, the largest

1230
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,510
Edelman, public relations
company, his name is Roman came

1231
01:11:54,510 --> 01:11:57,780
out from New York to present
this thing, which is the annual

1232
01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:05,370
trust survey results. And it's
actually I've set you up with a

1233
01:12:05,370 --> 01:12:07,710
link to the slide show, because
you can get most of it from

1234
01:12:07,710 --> 01:12:12,750
that. But it's about how various
public's trust or distrust their

1235
01:12:12,750 --> 01:12:15,420
own government with a list of
all the countries that are

1236
01:12:15,420 --> 01:12:18,990
highly trusted and the ones that
aren't by their own people. And

1237
01:12:18,990 --> 01:12:21,450
then there's cross references,
how many people trust other

1238
01:12:21,450 --> 01:12:25,110
governments and if we don't
trust the Chinese to do business

1239
01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:28,620
with them, or the Russians, and
it goes on and on. But he's been

1240
01:12:28,620 --> 01:12:34,380
doing this for 14 years. And the
one thing that really showed it

1241
01:12:34,380 --> 01:12:38,490
to me, showed up as the most
important thing that I learned

1242
01:12:38,490 --> 01:12:41,250
by listening to this, and
especially listening to somebody

1243
01:12:41,250 --> 01:12:44,010
give up power or giving
PowerPoint slides and talking

1244
01:12:44,010 --> 01:12:46,080
about his little different than
just looking at the slides,

1245
01:12:46,350 --> 01:12:50,250
because they will point things
out. It began when he first

1246
01:12:50,250 --> 01:12:52,830
started doing this, and it's
just been growing the most

1247
01:12:52,830 --> 01:12:58,560
trusted source of information.
Laval just asked you, what do

1248
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,200
you think the most trusted, the
most trusted source of

1249
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,030
information? Where does it come
from?

1250
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,690
And this is in the United States
for American citizens or for

1251
01:13:06,690 --> 01:13:07,230
this actually

1252
01:13:07,230 --> 01:13:09,540
turns out to be worldwide, but
it isn't the United States

1253
01:13:09,540 --> 01:13:10,410
profound.

1254
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,110
The most trusted source of news?

1255
01:13:13,620 --> 01:13:17,730
Yeah, if you got if you got some
news coming, which is just your

1256
01:13:17,730 --> 01:13:20,670
guy across the street, they're
tweeting something isn't a

1257
01:13:20,940 --> 01:13:25,920
broadcast news media is a TV, is
it? Howard Stern?

1258
01:13:27,090 --> 01:13:31,890
I would say the most trusted
news is a worldwide CNN.

1259
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:36,960
Now, what is it? It is none no
news organisations. Okay, take

1260
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:42,420
news organisations out and now
give me one Twitter know, the

1261
01:13:42,420 --> 01:13:46,200
most trusted source period of
every and this is you when you

1262
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,590
think about it. Because of the
way we've noticed this on the

1263
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:55,260
show, but we've never actually
seen any data about it. Or NGOs.

1264
01:13:55,290 --> 01:13:55,980
No.

1265
01:13:56,970 --> 01:14:00,900
Oh, yeah, of course. Yes. Non
Governmental organisations. Yes,

1266
01:14:00,930 --> 01:14:05,070
of course. Of course, like
Amnesty International Human

1267
01:14:05,070 --> 01:14:08,130
Rights Watch all these state
department funded operations.

1268
01:14:08,130 --> 01:14:08,460
Yeah.

1269
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,650
And it's until you see the
numbers and realise that Oh,

1270
01:14:13,710 --> 01:14:16,410
because it is obvious just the
way you reacted to it as the way

1271
01:14:16,410 --> 01:14:19,500
I reacted to it when I saw it.
And it said, Yeah, this is the

1272
01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:22,800
whole idea. This is why these
things are so popular. And this

1273
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,340
is when we start when we start
breaking them apart, we find the

1274
01:14:26,340 --> 01:14:27,570
usual suspects.

1275
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:34,170
This is exactly like Mother
Jones, and ProPublica which is

1276
01:14:34,170 --> 01:14:39,720
the same thing. So and at all of
these non these nonprofits, you

1277
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:45,030
can say I think NGOs is almost a
misnomer, because people don't

1278
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:47,250
even look at them as NGOs of
well, it's a nonprofit

1279
01:14:47,250 --> 01:14:49,620
organisation there for human
rights. I mean, obviously

1280
01:14:49,650 --> 01:14:50,460
Greenpeace is

1281
01:14:50,460 --> 01:14:54,150
not an NGO is a is an inside
baseball buzz term. It is a term

1282
01:14:54,150 --> 01:14:55,650
Yeah. Nobody calls them NGOs.

1283
01:14:55,650 --> 01:14:58,530
Now they call them by what they
are Human Rights Watch. Well,

1284
01:14:58,620 --> 01:15:02,490
obviously they didn't nonprofit
Amnesty International profit.

1285
01:15:02,490 --> 01:15:06,630
Yes, of course. They've been
doing this for years, obviously.

1286
01:15:08,130 --> 01:15:12,480
Yeah. What we noticed on this
show is that because they're so

1287
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:15,180
co opted, they're co opted that

1288
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,600
Southern Poverty Law Centre,
Southern Poverty Law Centre,

1289
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:19,530
another great one.

1290
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,390
It's Edelman spotted this first
spotted this trend and it's

1291
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:28,680
growing, by the way, but he
first bought it in in 14 years

1292
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,500
ago, which would be the year
2000 or so when he started doing

1293
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:35,190
these presentations. And I think
what happened is that because

1294
01:15:35,190 --> 01:15:38,310
the people that are at this
presentation is a real weird mix

1295
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:44,340
of public relations folks and
journalists and CEOs. It's kind

1296
01:15:44,340 --> 01:15:45,090
of like a weird

1297
01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:47,940
up. How did you get into what
happened there?

1298
01:15:48,780 --> 01:15:55,650
Yeah, well, one, yeah, it's more
stories to be told. But somebody

1299
01:15:55,650 --> 01:15:58,260
gave me said, you, you can come
and then they told me late. And

1300
01:15:58,260 --> 01:15:59,910
so you know, I didn't realise
it. But they're not supposed to

1301
01:15:59,910 --> 01:16:02,550
be anybody reporting on this.
And I said, Well, reporting on,

1302
01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:05,850
I will report it. I just want to
get the facts. And I, you know,

1303
01:16:05,850 --> 01:16:08,970
what's there? And then I went to
and I said, and my response to

1304
01:16:08,970 --> 01:16:14,340
that nobody can report on it
was, what's there to report? I

1305
01:16:14,340 --> 01:16:16,200
mean, they already put the
slideshow out in the public

1306
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,710
domain, which is available, and
you can anyone could just Google

1307
01:16:19,710 --> 01:16:22,860
it and get it. There's nothing
to report really. And so I

1308
01:16:22,860 --> 01:16:25,350
thought that was kind of weird.
It was just like, gonna make it

1309
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:30,720
seem more secretive. It's
bullcrap. But this the engineer,

1310
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,650
so I figured when they started
spotting this, you know, 15

1311
01:16:34,650 --> 01:16:39,300
years ago or so? That's when the
CO opting began. Yeah. Because

1312
01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:42,420
the smart money's sitting there
saying, Hmm, we can't seem to

1313
01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:45,810
get our message across as a
company. We can't seem to get

1314
01:16:45,810 --> 01:16:48,150
our message across as a
government agency. And by the

1315
01:16:48,150 --> 01:16:51,570
way, the government numbers are
down in the toilet for

1316
01:16:51,570 --> 01:16:55,530
believability that nobody just
did his don't believe anything.

1317
01:16:55,530 --> 01:16:59,010
The government says the
worldwide public. There's like

1318
01:16:59,010 --> 01:17:02,790
14%, the large numbers
ridiculous. But so what you do

1319
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:05,730
is you take a look at this, and
you go, I got it. Why don't we

1320
01:17:05,730 --> 01:17:09,570
just create these crazy because
there's 1000s of these things by

1321
01:17:09,630 --> 01:17:14,370
and we find one link to another,
you know, we all connect right?

1322
01:17:14,370 --> 01:17:16,800
All these the head of the other
one, and this is and they just

1323
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,260
get a lot of government money or
corporate money. And then they

1324
01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:22,500
tell this corporate story
through the NGO and it works

1325
01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:25,560
like a champ to public lapsit. I
saw this as a media.

1326
01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:33,150
I saw this firsthand when in
1996. Reebok was my client of

1327
01:17:33,150 --> 01:17:39,660
the company think new ideas. And
we built plan@reebok.com. And

1328
01:17:39,690 --> 01:17:43,020
you may recall at the time, and
of course, there were bulletin

1329
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:45,480
boards, and the internet was
just kind of exploding. People

1330
01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:48,900
are learning that they had a
voice and all over the Reebok

1331
01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:52,500
planet reebok.com site people
saying yeah, you know, you guys,

1332
01:17:52,500 --> 01:17:55,530
yeah, you use like child labour
to put together your stuff. It's

1333
01:17:55,530 --> 01:17:59,400
all kit children are dying of
your glue. And they were really

1334
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,270
freaked out. And I don't
remember who there. It might

1335
01:18:03,270 --> 01:18:06,420
have been Edelman. They're big
enough to hire Edelman, but they

1336
01:18:07,050 --> 01:18:11,820
made a sizable donation to human
rights now. I didn't know that

1337
01:18:11,850 --> 01:18:15,330
outfit still exists. And human
rights now put together a

1338
01:18:15,330 --> 01:18:18,570
delegation and they went down
and they all checked it out and

1339
01:18:18,570 --> 01:18:22,140
everything's out good. And we
took pictures and some videos,

1340
01:18:22,140 --> 01:18:25,110
we put that on the web and, and
little kids looking all happy

1341
01:18:25,110 --> 01:18:28,590
with no glue on their hands.
Then human rights now took care

1342
01:18:28,590 --> 01:18:32,970
of it. And that's just another
one of those bullcrap

1343
01:18:32,970 --> 01:18:36,900
organisations. Unfortunately, a
lot of them don't. There is

1344
01:18:36,900 --> 01:18:41,040
some, not all of them some, some
actually do some good things

1345
01:18:41,850 --> 01:18:42,930
under now.

1346
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:48,060
Ah, well, the other little trend
that kind of got my attention.

1347
01:18:48,750 --> 01:18:53,100
Even though I knew this, I kind
of knew this, but I didn't know

1348
01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:59,130
the numbers or see it in action.
They had a series of slides and

1349
01:18:59,130 --> 01:19:03,630
they did a bunch of studies on
if you say you're a company, and

1350
01:19:03,630 --> 01:19:06,090
you're trying to get your
message across who is the best

1351
01:19:06,330 --> 01:19:10,350
person within that company that
can actually get people to

1352
01:19:10,350 --> 01:19:15,600
believe you Bano? Is it that
would be closed. But that's

1353
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,810
actually on the list. But it's
not it. It's not by No, it's not

1354
01:19:18,810 --> 01:19:23,070
the CEO. It's not the public
relations company. There's a

1355
01:19:23,070 --> 01:19:23,940
whole bunch of things. It's the

1356
01:19:23,940 --> 01:19:26,940
guy on the factory floor with a
hardhat. Yeah, yeah.

1357
01:19:27,180 --> 01:19:32,760
Right. Yeah. It's the employee
II. So the idea is, so we can

1358
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,240
see this coming down Broadway.
In fact, I think a lot of this

1359
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,390
stems from what Adam Curtis did
when he did that documentary

1360
01:19:39,390 --> 01:19:42,360
showing that the news source,
the news sources are going to

1361
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,990
the man on the street. Yeah.
This is an extension of that

1362
01:19:45,990 --> 01:19:49,620
where you were you just had us.
Right, right. Right. Exactly.

1363
01:19:49,860 --> 01:19:52,200
And you say what do you think
happened? I don't know. But it's

1364
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:59,220
bad. Wow. And this is a news
report. So we're doomed here.

1365
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:05,730
The only Bullet or gun to this
podcast is one of the few things

1366
01:20:05,730 --> 01:20:10,380
that's an outlier, because it's
not falling for any of this

1367
01:20:10,380 --> 01:20:11,010
crap.

1368
01:20:11,850 --> 01:20:15,090
And for that very reason I want
to thank you for your courage.

1369
01:20:15,690 --> 01:20:18,210
And say in the morning to you
John C. Dvorak.

1370
01:20:18,780 --> 01:20:22,050
Linda morning to you Adam curry.
In the morning Ola ships as he

1371
01:20:22,050 --> 01:20:24,810
boots on the ground feet in the
air subs in the water. And all

1372
01:20:24,810 --> 01:20:26,340
the Dames and nights out there.
I

1373
01:20:26,340 --> 01:20:29,880
feel kind of bad. We're late on
on our opening credits in the

1374
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,630
morning to all of our artists.
Thank you, sir Nussbaum for the

1375
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,470
album artwork on episode five
nine or zero Thank you chat room

1376
01:20:37,470 --> 01:20:41,130
in the morning to you human
resources there who pointed out

1377
01:20:41,130 --> 01:20:43,710
it was Sardinia where all the
Russians are going these days.

1378
01:20:44,250 --> 01:20:50,850
And this conversation that we've
been having today is heated at

1379
01:20:50,850 --> 01:20:57,600
times enia. Sardinia acidemia.
Yeah. Heated at times as it is

1380
01:20:57,750 --> 01:21:01,770
would not be possible without
the the only way this type of

1381
01:21:01,770 --> 01:21:05,340
programme can be financed was
just through your support. And

1382
01:21:05,340 --> 01:21:07,320
these are our executive
producers and Associate

1383
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,500
Executive Producers anything
over $200 for each episode you

1384
01:21:10,500 --> 01:21:13,350
get credit as such on the
homepage is everywhere. You get

1385
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:17,610
the credits. And we will start
today with our executive

1386
01:21:17,610 --> 01:21:19,980
producer Sir Frank, I guess.

1387
01:21:21,900 --> 01:21:25,560
Yeah, we want to thank a few
people, starting with Sir Frank.

1388
01:21:26,430 --> 01:21:31,440
As as Zen's thought, as in
stats, I shouldn't start, I

1389
01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:38,850
shouldn't start stajan stat is
in Australia $557.39. It was a I

1390
01:21:38,850 --> 01:21:42,210
have to make another serious
contribution. He says over my

1391
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:46,650
monthly 1111 amount 357 of this
contribution takes me to Baronet

1392
01:21:46,650 --> 01:21:50,280
and an additional 200 To
celebrate my son's 21st Birthday

1393
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,700
Rohan and my wife Michelle's
50th birthday.

1394
01:21:53,730 --> 01:21:56,730
I don't see that on the list.
Interestingly enough,

1395
01:21:57,450 --> 01:21:59,610
I'll put Michelle on there while
I

1396
01:21:59,610 --> 01:22:03,900
have to do his son so Hola, Sir
Frank, and none of that's on

1397
01:22:03,900 --> 01:22:05,160
this on the list by the way.

1398
01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:09,150
Girl Han I thought I saw Rohan
on there. No.

1399
01:22:11,610 --> 01:22:12,810
Not on the birthdays.

1400
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,680
Well, that's interesting.

1401
01:22:16,740 --> 01:22:19,620
Okay, Roja and wife Michelle.
Okay, I got it.

1402
01:22:22,140 --> 01:22:27,600
Send Eric a note. He's not doing
anything. Hi. I'd love to hear

1403
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:27,990
from you.

1404
01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:31,290
It's time for our review. Eric.
Yeah, we want to review your

1405
01:22:31,290 --> 01:22:34,920
performance here at the company
at the organisation and yeah,

1406
01:22:35,460 --> 01:22:38,070
yeah, this it's a little
unfortunate when we're on the

1407
01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:41,550
air, you know, like live and,
and we're catching things that

1408
01:22:41,550 --> 01:22:42,870
are wrong. It's just it's

1409
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:49,050
up to the incredible work goes
on Frank. So you can believe

1410
01:22:49,050 --> 01:22:52,350
that you both deliver him. Okay.
Thanks, Frank. Sir Frank as a

1411
01:22:52,350 --> 01:22:55,620
matter of fact, and now and
we're coming up. Sir Philip

1412
01:22:55,620 --> 01:23:01,740
Nissan in Welshpool, Powys UK at
333 33 and he does have a note

1413
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:08,880
that he emailed in versus
complaining about his different

1414
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,970
email accounts. He did send us
an interesting thing about the

1415
01:23:12,060 --> 01:23:15,900
guy who was moaning that
Christians have difficulty

1416
01:23:17,310 --> 01:23:22,590
contributing to the show saying
that he doesn't see the cont do

1417
01:23:22,590 --> 01:23:26,550
conflict because any had any put
up a web page, which will link

1418
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:27,510
to at some point.

1419
01:23:29,130 --> 01:23:33,660
I think I think the the nucleus
of his message was if you're a

1420
01:23:33,660 --> 01:23:36,750
Christian, you have 10% tithing
then you need to make sure that

1421
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:41,130
you have food on your on the
table for your family shelter,

1422
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,610
and then you need to pay your
utilities. Netflix had no

1423
01:23:44,610 --> 01:23:48,000
agenda. I think it was in that
order. Yeah, sounds like I

1424
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:48,900
thought it was very cute.

1425
01:23:50,610 --> 01:23:54,690
So here he says Please, could I
request some last dog karma from

1426
01:23:54,690 --> 01:23:59,160
my friend Julian. The evil
flanker whose 15 year old

1427
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:03,840
Staffordshire Bull Terrier has
gone missing in Newport Wales.

1428
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,740
That's good. Some dog has been

1429
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,460
Go ahead. The dogs with Mizel
finish. The dog has been

1430
01:24:11,460 --> 01:24:15,120
Julian's companion sense of
puppy and has been constant

1431
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,330
companion from my friend Ken
producers in the Newport area.

1432
01:24:18,330 --> 01:24:22,410
Please keep your eyes out for
the dog. There are flyers with

1433
01:24:22,410 --> 01:24:26,400
his picture and contact
information posted posted around

1434
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:27,540
parts of Newport.

1435
01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:32,070
Here's him finding your dog
karma. Come on back money. Karma

1436
01:24:35,670 --> 01:24:38,730
those aren't the friendliest
dogs to walk up to

1437
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:46,890
Jordan Goodfellow. 33321. Which
is the reverse of one two triple

1438
01:24:46,890 --> 01:24:50,100
three. I'm catching you. I
gotcha, Jordan. I like it a lot.

1439
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:52,860
Thank you for always producing a
great show, guys. Your courage

1440
01:24:52,860 --> 01:24:56,010
is appreciated. Today's my 33rd
birthday. I knew that it was

1441
01:24:56,010 --> 01:24:59,040
time to get off the Boehner
waggon and become a donor. I

1442
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:02,190
always enjoy I'm helping my
thinking challenge while

1443
01:25:02,190 --> 01:25:04,740
increasing my critical thinking
skills and knowledge as I

1444
01:25:04,740 --> 01:25:08,250
listened to the show I've all
but stopped listening to twit

1445
01:25:08,250 --> 01:25:10,620
because the no agenda show is
just playing awesome and I think

1446
01:25:10,620 --> 01:25:13,110
you can listen to both there's
no problem there

1447
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,890
I would think that you can don't
stop listening to why I don't

1448
01:25:16,890 --> 01:25:17,310
understand

1449
01:25:17,310 --> 01:25:19,890
well you know people have only
so much time in the day that

1450
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:24,360
there's there's that I would
love a jobs no conflict to to

1451
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:33,120
the head karma. Okay. So we have
jobs to to the head and then no

1452
01:25:33,150 --> 01:25:36,510
conflicts. See normally when
John is reading this I'm reading

1453
01:25:36,510 --> 01:25:39,150
a little bit ahead and then I
can do it. So here we go.

1454
01:25:39,180 --> 01:25:47,520
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. No real conflict,

1455
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:48,750
karma.

1456
01:25:50,340 --> 01:25:53,460
Also have any listeners out
there in need of end to end live

1457
01:25:53,460 --> 01:25:56,130
event support. I would love to
offer the services of my company

1458
01:25:56,130 --> 01:25:59,790
the rare experience. We design
produce, manage corporate

1459
01:25:59,790 --> 01:26:04,110
events, concerts, rock shows and
nonprofit events. Yes, your NGO

1460
01:26:04,110 --> 01:26:06,660
is in anyone can get started at

1461
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:09,570
great, the

1462
01:26:09,570 --> 01:26:11,220
rare experienced.com

1463
01:26:12,420 --> 01:26:16,680
Barry Kroger $333 in Greeley
Colorado Hello Adam and John

1464
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,040
this is my knife donation 333 my
third year of donating a lot of

1465
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,160
threes there doesn't mean
something hopefully it's good

1466
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,740
and should complete my first
knighthood My birthday is this

1467
01:26:25,740 --> 01:26:29,430
Friday. So a birthday wish would
be great. Thank you for all the

1468
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:34,320
work you guys do in a some
accounting, which is great. Brah

1469
01:26:34,350 --> 01:26:39,510
Rachel Anderson 214 14 in
Covington, Louisiana. Thank you

1470
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:43,020
both for your courage and Happy
Valentine's Day to my very

1471
01:26:43,050 --> 01:26:46,050
smart, funny and handsome
boyfriend who told me about your

1472
01:26:46,050 --> 01:26:50,790
show and one of our first dates.
Several months later he now says

1473
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:55,680
it regrets it because you've
sent me off the deep end. And I

1474
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,950
suppose he's right I am the
crackpot in the relationship.

1475
01:26:59,490 --> 01:27:02,850
Keep up the good work, eat more
kale and please send us both

1476
01:27:02,850 --> 01:27:06,840
some wealth karma so he can
someday hire a fancy British

1477
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:10,620
Butler and called him parm
Parmesan.

1478
01:27:11,490 --> 01:27:14,700
Parmesan. You get 10 minutes. I
don't know. I don't very

1479
01:27:14,700 --> 01:27:16,950
Kroger's. zoeken they're very
Kroger's also not on the

1480
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:19,530
birthday list. Do I have the
wrong birthday list somehow I do

1481
01:27:19,530 --> 01:27:22,560
something completely wrong. This
is very weird.

1482
01:27:24,540 --> 01:27:28,890
Though maybe you do have the
wrong birthday. I saw no XO Han

1483
01:27:28,890 --> 01:27:32,790
on the list. Let me go back
anyway,

1484
01:27:32,790 --> 01:27:36,960
I'm gonna hand out the karma
here. There's your money. You've

1485
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:41,190
got karma. Eat more kale indeed.

1486
01:27:43,440 --> 01:27:47,490
Okay, just waiting. Who says
this? You know

1487
01:27:51,630 --> 01:27:53,490
Anthony Cole, Angela, thank

1488
01:27:53,490 --> 01:27:59,400
you right. And Jordan Goodfellow
Anthony cool Angelo Dame Andrea

1489
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,820
furred sir Dallas. Joe van Scott
and Greg.

1490
01:28:03,420 --> 01:28:06,180
Yeah, Barry Kroger and Sir
Frank. We're not on the list.

1491
01:28:07,980 --> 01:28:11,760
Very Kroger. Yeah, who's right
this is as my birthday on

1492
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:12,330
Friday.

1493
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,950
Yeah, it's another one. I don't
know how he must have done it.

1494
01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:21,990
No, I have no idea. I would send
you should send a note to join

1495
01:28:22,110 --> 01:28:28,170
Constant Contact. Okay, where
were we? Anthony co Angelo to

1496
01:28:28,170 --> 01:28:33,120
1314 Mount Laurel new
journaling. 22 1314 damask

1497
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,720
today's date, which I was doing
my birthday shows have been

1498
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,460
great. Thank you for your
courage.

1499
01:28:38,669 --> 01:28:41,549
And you're now breaking up Did
you do something are you doing

1500
01:28:41,549 --> 01:28:44,069
something on that computer
because you're breaking up now?

1501
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:48,420
Just probably going online maybe
Am I still breaking up? Yeah.

1502
01:28:49,980 --> 01:28:56,730
You just breaking up break it
up. Now Alright, let me drop the

1503
01:28:56,730 --> 01:28:57,720
quality down one.

1504
01:28:57,990 --> 01:29:00,690
Don't Don't please don't do
anything. Just leave it as it

1505
01:29:00,690 --> 01:29:03,600
is. We'll see if it shakes out.
I think you were you were doing

1506
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:09,270
something and it had happened.
So anyway. Sir Richard, Horizon

1507
01:29:09,270 --> 01:29:09,750
high res

1508
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:12,780
neck. I wanted to celebrate the
arrival of my no agenda night

1509
01:29:12,780 --> 01:29:15,690
ring in my new job in the
petroleum industry by donating

1510
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:20,160
yay, I was in. I was encouraged
by a colleague to read petroleum

1511
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:24,240
refining and non technical
language on page 36. Under D

1512
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:28,650
salting it said the following.
As crude oil comes into the

1513
01:29:28,650 --> 01:29:34,590
refinery tankage it generally
contains trash contains trash,

1514
01:29:34,620 --> 01:29:38,730
not the people but sand. That's
a bit says not the people in

1515
01:29:38,730 --> 01:29:46,320
this text. Really. That's pretty
fun. Really. It is generally

1516
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:51,180
contains trash, not the people,
but sand, minerals and salts.

1517
01:29:51,630 --> 01:29:54,270
When I showed my colleagues
expected they would find the

1518
01:29:54,270 --> 01:29:58,170
humour that I found in that
statement. He said yeah, those

1519
01:29:58,170 --> 01:30:03,180
people are generally trashy I
would like to ask for continued

1520
01:30:03,180 --> 01:30:04,140
job karma.

1521
01:30:05,970 --> 01:30:07,050
Yeah, I keep it.

1522
01:30:08,189 --> 01:30:12,419
Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote
for jobs.

1523
01:30:17,220 --> 01:30:23,370
Overdue that was $2.33 and
finally TAF fawn. I think it's

1524
01:30:23,460 --> 01:30:28,470
pronounced that way, Madison in
Brooklyn 200. Gentlemen, for too

1525
01:30:28,470 --> 01:30:32,070
long I've been a Boehner. After
the last newsletter newsletter,

1526
01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:35,580
I could no longer bear the shame
of not donating. I encourage all

1527
01:30:35,580 --> 01:30:38,070
the listeners who have listened
to every episode of the show

1528
01:30:38,070 --> 01:30:41,100
such as myself to remove their
death grip hold on their

1529
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:46,380
wallets, and start donating you
cheap bastards. I would like to

1530
01:30:46,380 --> 01:30:49,500
request a deed douching and some
getting laid karma in honour of

1531
01:30:49,500 --> 01:30:53,400
the soon approaching Bogota
Valentine's Day. Thanks for the

1532
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,320
spot on News Analysis.

1533
01:30:57,300 --> 01:31:02,040
You've been de Deus. You've got
karma.

1534
01:31:05,430 --> 01:31:08,160
So those are our executive
producers and producers for

1535
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:14,700
show. 591 and I want to thank
them for contributing and remind

1536
01:31:14,700 --> 01:31:19,920
you to go to divorce.org/and A
child of org.com/and A, also a

1537
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,680
no agenda show.com And no agenda
nation.com bullets have donate

1538
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,320
buttons hit them and you can
help us out for the next show,

1539
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:26,520
which is 592.

1540
01:31:26,550 --> 01:31:30,780
And indeed in quick PR mentioned
Sergeant Fred did an interview

1541
01:31:30,780 --> 01:31:33,540
with me you can hear that at
boomers for startups.com where

1542
01:31:33,540 --> 01:31:36,390
he prominently featured the no
agenda show and everything we do

1543
01:31:36,450 --> 01:31:39,450
and our value for value model
which is exactly what we just

1544
01:31:39,450 --> 01:31:41,580
went through with our executive
producers Associate Executive

1545
01:31:41,580 --> 01:31:45,360
Producers these are real
credits. Unlike the phonies in

1546
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,720
Hollywood will vouch for them.
People can call us up we'll say

1547
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,620
yes. If you really are an
executive producer, I'm looking

1548
01:31:52,620 --> 01:31:56,910
at you kid then we'll be happy
to about and of course you can

1549
01:31:56,910 --> 01:31:58,860
put them on your LinkedIn
account all other places where

1550
01:31:58,860 --> 01:32:04,260
credits are accepted for.org/n A
and of course we'd always

1551
01:32:04,260 --> 01:32:07,950
appreciate you going out there
and propagating our formula. Our

1552
01:32:07,950 --> 01:32:12,390
formula is this we go out 48
People in the mouth

1553
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:33,240
the Ministry of Truth is
becoming even smaller now as

1554
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:36,210
Comcast is going to acquire Time
Warner Cable.

1555
01:32:37,170 --> 01:32:39,240
I think this is quite good or
bad for you.

1556
01:32:39,990 --> 01:32:41,880
I think it's bad for everybody

1557
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:48,300
Yeah, I have time is it good or
bad for you? Does your quality

1558
01:32:48,300 --> 01:32:49,080
of your connection

1559
01:32:49,260 --> 01:32:54,990
um it's not just that it's it's
who who is the gatekeeper now

1560
01:32:55,020 --> 01:33:00,450
Comcast will pretty much what
what do we have left if Comcast

1561
01:33:00,450 --> 01:33:03,990
and Time Warner Cable charter
charter small though they're not

1562
01:33:03,990 --> 01:33:04,860
that big or they

1563
01:33:07,500 --> 01:33:10,650
actually tried to attack they're
the ones who triggered this this

1564
01:33:10,650 --> 01:33:11,700
purchase? Yeah, they were

1565
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:18,180
they offered $130 A share I
believe. And this whole thing is

1566
01:33:18,210 --> 01:33:24,780
this is this I would strongly
advise our our administration to

1567
01:33:24,780 --> 01:33:33,180
not allow this to happen. Ya
know, how silly am I? And the

1568
01:33:33,180 --> 01:33:38,100
only thing I care about is is
the conductivity because all

1569
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:41,040
we'll have well, Austin has an
interesting town for this.

1570
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:46,140
Comcast is competing against AT
and T AT and T is competing is

1571
01:33:46,140 --> 01:33:50,100
they're really trying to jump
the gun on Google's fibre thing

1572
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,600
which is apparently coming this
year. And they're offering their

1573
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,750
Giga maximum fluc them luck and
they're doing it well because

1574
01:33:57,750 --> 01:34:01,410
they they've got all Austin
celebrities kind of musician

1575
01:34:01,410 --> 01:34:05,340
types and people you'd recognise
with crazy hair. Oh, there's

1576
01:34:05,340 --> 01:34:07,200
that guy with the dreadlocks?
Yeah, I've seen him play at the

1577
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:13,590
market on the corner. Seriously
acids in some models that Mickey

1578
01:34:13,590 --> 01:34:16,740
is actually used for some
photography so it's their local

1579
01:34:16,740 --> 01:34:20,730
Austin people and they're doing
a good job but man that's all

1580
01:34:20,730 --> 01:34:25,470
we're gonna have kind of AT and
T and Time Warner slash Comcast

1581
01:34:25,470 --> 01:34:28,920
I guess and then whatever Google
comes up with but Google is dead

1582
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,130
won't really be fully rolled out
for years to come before it's

1583
01:34:32,130 --> 01:34:33,090
all over Austin.

1584
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:37,740
Isn't they'll sell to somebody
else? Yeah,

1585
01:34:37,770 --> 01:34:40,830
but the whole thing is, you
know, that's what I'm worried

1586
01:34:40,830 --> 01:34:43,830
about this about the internet.
I'm not so I don't give a crap

1587
01:34:43,830 --> 01:34:44,790
about the television.

1588
01:34:48,270 --> 01:34:54,090
Yeah, you have one gatekeeper.
You can only subscribe and even

1589
01:34:54,090 --> 01:34:58,830
get a connection if you only
watch NBC 10 That's pretty much

1590
01:34:58,830 --> 01:35:01,890
what it comes down to see How
they can get away with this. All

1591
01:35:01,890 --> 01:35:05,640
these conflicts of interest and
monopolies positioning is

1592
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:06,300
ridiculous. I

1593
01:35:06,300 --> 01:35:07,170
don't think they care.

1594
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:12,480
No, they care if they were told
no. Yeah.

1595
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:19,320
So the President took his pen
and phone campaign on the road.

1596
01:35:21,570 --> 01:35:25,410
Which is very interesting. What
he's doing. This, by the way, is

1597
01:35:25,410 --> 01:35:30,300
what Barack Obama does best. He
loves going out with a message,

1598
01:35:30,300 --> 01:35:33,840
something simple, and
communicating that to the

1599
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:39,090
sheeple. And he did something.
There's a lot of mind control

1600
01:35:39,090 --> 01:35:44,940
going on. So this is really,
really quite interesting. Where

1601
01:35:44,940 --> 01:35:48,870
he so we had an executive order,
he already announced this in the

1602
01:35:49,260 --> 01:35:53,280
State of the Union, he was going
to raise the minimum wage of

1603
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:57,000
federal employees and
contractors, I believe, to

1604
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:02,730
$10.10 an hour, the 1010 rule,
which I guess is put in because

1605
01:36:02,730 --> 01:36:08,580
it's easy to remember. And this
is so Atlas Shrugged what he

1606
01:36:08,580 --> 01:36:13,950
does here, where he's going to
connect a great company being

1607
01:36:13,950 --> 01:36:18,150
Costco, to working for the
government, because they pay a

1608
01:36:18,150 --> 01:36:22,140
lot and they care about you, and
they'll keep you employed for 20

1609
01:36:22,140 --> 01:36:26,910
years or more. This is this is
true mind programming going on.

1610
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,160
And there's another little
gotcha in here, which is just

1611
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:34,140
hilarious. To show that anyone
who applauded and laughed at

1612
01:36:34,140 --> 01:36:35,790
this is so out of touch with
reality.

1613
01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:40,080
And, you know, when I was over
at the Costco store, I was mean,

1614
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,080
folks would start it off as bull
crap.

1615
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,260
When I was over at the Costco
store, I was meeting folks who

1616
01:36:49,260 --> 01:36:53,070
wash register, and they start at
the cash register. Okay. Hello,

1617
01:36:53,550 --> 01:36:57,720
Mr. President, when you started
Costco, you are not at the cash

1618
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:03,420
register. That's that's a
premium job, dude. You do not

1619
01:37:03,420 --> 01:37:08,490
start at the cash register, you
start stacking, which is a

1620
01:37:08,490 --> 01:37:10,770
dangerous job. So you're wrong.

1621
01:37:10,980 --> 01:37:14,250
You know, now we're in
supervisory positions.

1622
01:37:14,339 --> 01:37:18,209
Oh, the supervisory positions.
I'm supervising. You had been

1623
01:37:18,210 --> 01:37:21,210
there for 20 years. And you
could see the kind of pride that

1624
01:37:21,210 --> 01:37:24,390
they had in the company because
the company when you start

1625
01:37:24,390 --> 01:37:27,300
talking like this, that's right.
That's right. Wait until you

1626
01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:27,870
hear what he says.

1627
01:37:28,980 --> 01:37:31,620
When did this happen? I don't
remember this two years ago.

1628
01:37:31,650 --> 01:37:32,250
Yeah.

1629
01:37:32,700 --> 01:37:35,760
Well, he had different that was
different. This is

1630
01:37:35,790 --> 01:37:39,450
over now. He talks like this. He
talks like George Bush. No, it's

1631
01:37:39,450 --> 01:37:42,870
a little more there's a hipster
thing to it. You got that? I

1632
01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:47,910
don't want to Oh, you got it.
It's kind of an up talk with the

1633
01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:49,020
back with a backflip.

1634
01:37:49,830 --> 01:37:54,090
cared about them. I even
received a letter the next day

1635
01:37:54,090 --> 01:37:57,840
from a woman who saw my visit on
TV she decided to fly a job for

1636
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:58,320
Costco.

1637
01:37:58,559 --> 01:38:02,099
Oh, okay. Let me get this
straight to the woman sitting at

1638
01:38:02,099 --> 01:38:08,459
home and she has no job and she
sees you on TV and went I think

1639
01:38:08,489 --> 01:38:12,779
I shall apply for a job at
Costco. That seems like a great

1640
01:38:12,779 --> 01:38:13,439
place

1641
01:38:14,370 --> 01:38:18,750
you're gonna get a like a board
seat or something on Costco This

1642
01:38:18,750 --> 01:38:19,890
is ridiculous.

1643
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:26,910
But to insult the millions of
jobless Americans who I think

1644
01:38:26,940 --> 01:38:32,430
stand in lines five deep to get
a job at Costco opening the door

1645
01:38:32,430 --> 01:38:37,410
for people and to say some lady
just saw him on TV Oh, I'm gonna

1646
01:38:37,410 --> 01:38:42,150
go get a job over there. There's
so many jobs it's really really

1647
01:38:42,150 --> 01:38:42,720
insulting.

1648
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:46,680
She said well let me let me let
me limit limit limit eliminate

1649
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:47,520
her job at Costco

1650
01:38:49,290 --> 01:38:52,140
I can't Why Why did I mean I
apply apply anywhere else?

1651
01:38:52,260 --> 01:38:53,340
There's plenty of jobs

1652
01:38:54,990 --> 01:38:58,140
across the country owners of
small and large businesses are

1653
01:38:58,140 --> 01:39:01,710
recognising that fair wages and
higher profits go hand in hand

1654
01:39:02,100 --> 01:39:02,820
for the bottom line

1655
01:39:02,849 --> 01:39:07,679
okay. Nice. It's good for the
bottom line is which is exactly

1656
01:39:07,679 --> 01:39:12,059
not see let me see more expenses
good for

1657
01:39:12,060 --> 01:39:16,080
the bottom line got as America's
chief executive Oh, the here

1658
01:39:16,110 --> 01:39:20,310
he's he's as he's the runner of
the corporation as the CEO of

1659
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:22,170
the of the United States of the
Gitmo.

1660
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:26,340
I agree. So while Congress
decides what it's going to do,

1661
01:39:27,090 --> 01:39:30,840
and I hope this year and I'm
going to work this year and urge

1662
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:35,130
this year that they actually
pass a law today I'm gonna do

1663
01:39:35,130 --> 01:39:39,660
what I can to help raise working
Americans wages. So

1664
01:39:41,550 --> 01:39:44,910
do you hear the the shield in
the back trying to get everyone

1665
01:39:44,910 --> 01:39:46,800
going? That's pretty fun guys, I

1666
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,830
get one of those in the studio
and then no one did anything

1667
01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:50,490
and it goes again.

1668
01:39:50,970 --> 01:39:53,880
Raise working Americans wages.
So

1669
01:39:58,980 --> 01:40:03,360
today So remember now you've
just heard how Costco is so

1670
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:08,310
great people are running to go
work for them, because they pay

1671
01:40:08,310 --> 01:40:09,630
more. And now

1672
01:40:12,450 --> 01:40:15,420
so today I'm issuing an
executive order requiring

1673
01:40:15,450 --> 01:40:19,770
federal contractors to pay their
employees a fair wage of at

1674
01:40:19,770 --> 01:40:21,660
least $10.10 an hour.

1675
01:40:35,550 --> 01:40:37,980
These are obviously the people
who are going to get this raise.

1676
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,020
This will make a difference for
folks. Right now there's a

1677
01:40:43,020 --> 01:40:45,600
dishwasher at Randolph Air Force
Base in Texas.

1678
01:40:45,630 --> 01:40:47,670
Now this is where he gets a
little messed up, because

1679
01:40:47,670 --> 01:40:49,980
there's a lot of numbers on the
prompter. And it's very

1680
01:40:49,980 --> 01:40:51,990
complicated to read all them
when you're excited.

1681
01:40:52,019 --> 01:40:59,549
Megan $7.70 $7.76 Now 776 Now,

1682
01:41:00,570 --> 01:41:05,280
you can just see how it was in
the prompter. Someone did 776 Or

1683
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,130
there was it there was no
decimal or something was wrong.

1684
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:12,060
And he couldn't figure it out.
777

1685
01:41:12,210 --> 01:41:16,650
may have been it may have been
written also like they'd like to

1686
01:41:16,650 --> 01:41:24,270
do. So it was 776 and he just
ploughed through it. So he got

1687
01:41:24,270 --> 01:41:27,540
to the second part of seven,
seven in the in the read and he

1688
01:41:27,540 --> 01:41:28,860
said wait a minute, just said
this

1689
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:32,100
was on a second line. That's
right. It was 770 says sepsis.

1690
01:41:32,370 --> 01:41:36,210
77 said was something in our

1691
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:43,410
Sentinelle 776 Now there's a
fast food worker at Air Andrews

1692
01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:47,700
right down the street, Megan
$8.91 an hour. There's a laundry

1693
01:41:47,700 --> 01:41:52,530
worker at Camp Dodge in Iowa
making $9.03. Now making once I

1694
01:41:52,530 --> 01:41:55,620
signed this order starting next
year, as their contracts come

1695
01:41:55,620 --> 01:41:58,620
up, each of them and many of
their fellow co workers are

1696
01:41:59,820 --> 01:42:02,610
Oh Torian and it ended there. I
got bored

1697
01:42:02,730 --> 01:42:05,520
as their contracts come up with
a sign that doesn't you just

1698
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,940
have to go to that immediately.
No, I mean, is there contracts,

1699
01:42:08,970 --> 01:42:11,940
what kind of contract we're
dealing with here? I don't know

1700
01:42:11,970 --> 01:42:14,760
who's making minimum wage
signing this contract?

1701
01:42:17,130 --> 01:42:18,810
Yeah, sounds a little sketchy,
doesn't it?

1702
01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:21,930
You know, I think he doesn't
know he ad libbed that this is

1703
01:42:21,930 --> 01:42:24,060
like he doesn't even know how it
works.

1704
01:42:25,440 --> 01:42:29,070
I think he means when the
contracts come up of the

1705
01:42:29,100 --> 01:42:33,870
contracting corporations.
They're the contractors, and

1706
01:42:33,870 --> 01:42:37,410
they're so Okay, you're right,
you're right. So it's 1010 An

1707
01:42:37,410 --> 01:42:42,540
hour starting January first
2015. And then beginning January

1708
01:42:42,540 --> 01:42:45,870
one 2016. And annually
thereafter, an amount determined

1709
01:42:45,870 --> 01:42:49,260
by Secretary of labour, the
amounts will be published. Oh,

1710
01:42:49,260 --> 01:42:54,810
that's interesting. I didn't see
that part. They're going to

1711
01:42:55,980 --> 01:42:59,880
start at a regular increase
rate. What is your view, John on

1712
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:03,750
on a minimum wage at all? Do we
actually have a federal man

1713
01:43:03,750 --> 01:43:06,720
federally mandated minimum wage?
Is that does that exist at all

1714
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:08,880
in America? I'm unclear if that
state

1715
01:43:09,330 --> 01:43:12,690
was a state priority because we
have in California that is 11 or

1716
01:43:12,690 --> 01:43:16,950
12 bucks. As we speak, it's
going up and especially in

1717
01:43:16,980 --> 01:43:20,610
different cities have a minimum
wage and then go down minimum

1718
01:43:20,610 --> 01:43:21,360
wage. So federal

1719
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:24,870
contracts in California Well,
it'll go down for them. They go

1720
01:43:24,870 --> 01:43:26,010
down to 1010.

1721
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:31,410
State Trump's federal I did see
I don't should

1722
01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:35,850
I don't think that there is a
there is a federal man federally

1723
01:43:35,850 --> 01:43:38,460
mandated minimum wage. It's all
by state. That's that's the way

1724
01:43:38,460 --> 01:43:39,360
I've always understood. We

1725
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:44,010
can look it up. Keep playing
I'll look it up.

1726
01:43:44,070 --> 01:43:50,670
There's nothing left to play on
that. No, I found it. But is it

1727
01:43:51,540 --> 01:43:55,350
I just found it to be what is
this application two tipped

1728
01:43:55,350 --> 01:43:58,980
workers for workers covered by
Section two of this order who

1729
01:43:58,980 --> 01:44:05,130
are tipped employees. The hourly
cash wage must be paid by an oh

1730
01:44:05,130 --> 01:44:10,860
this is interesting. Oh, this is
very this is a hidden man.

1731
01:44:11,130 --> 01:44:13,950
Section three application to
tipped workers for workers

1732
01:44:13,950 --> 01:44:17,250
covered by Section two of this
order who are tipped employees,

1733
01:44:17,700 --> 01:44:21,540
which means you make no money
except for tips. So I guess

1734
01:44:21,540 --> 01:44:25,140
that's if you're working at the
word the dishwashers making nine

1735
01:44:25,140 --> 01:44:30,300
bucks and you're just working
for tips pursuant to 29. US Code

1736
01:44:30,300 --> 01:44:33,330
two or three T the hourly cash
wage must be paid by an employer

1737
01:44:33,330 --> 01:44:38,760
to such workers shall be at
least $4.90 an hour. Oh good. I

1738
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,580
have a US Department of Labour
site it says the minimum wage

1739
01:44:41,580 --> 01:44:44,790
there is one federal minimum
wage provisions are contained in

1740
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:49,440
the fair Labour Standards Act
725. Many here's how they get

1741
01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:52,290
around the state Trump's federal
listen to this. I love this

1742
01:44:52,290 --> 01:44:55,890
wording. Many states also have
minimum wage laws. Some state

1743
01:44:55,890 --> 01:44:59,430
laws provide greater employee
protections, protections and

1744
01:44:59,430 --> 01:45:05,820
better price, employers must
comply with both. So if the

1745
01:45:05,820 --> 01:45:08,400
state says is going to be 11
bucks, you have to comply with

1746
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:08,760
that,

1747
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,360
too. Why didn't the President
comply with both? Why didn't the

1748
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:16,110
President just make the
federally mandated minimum wage

1749
01:45:16,110 --> 01:45:18,450
1010? Why is he a pussy was
wrong?

1750
01:45:20,190 --> 01:45:23,760
If I think this was passed by
Congress years, I don't know why

1751
01:45:23,790 --> 01:45:27,870
maybe just as done by the
Department of Labour. No, I

1752
01:45:27,870 --> 01:45:29,130
thought that's what he was
trying to do.

1753
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:33,840
No, this is only for federal
workers. So this is why you want

1754
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,780
that sucks. You want to go work
for the government? This is this

1755
01:45:36,780 --> 01:45:40,380
is the whole totally stinks. It
should be for everyone. No, this

1756
01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:42,060
is only for government workers.

1757
01:45:43,350 --> 01:45:45,900
The federal minimum wage
provisions and maybe this is

1758
01:45:45,900 --> 01:45:47,970
only for government workers. It
is only

1759
01:45:47,970 --> 01:45:51,030
for government workers is what
I'm telling you $10.10 an hour

1760
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:52,320
for federal

1761
01:45:52,380 --> 01:45:55,740
NYCHA, but maybe the 725 zone
for government work. Oh, that's

1762
01:45:55,740 --> 01:46:01,830
possible. Yeah, that has to be
the case. That's the only read

1763
01:46:01,830 --> 01:46:07,980
that would make sense what he's
up to visit to employers now to

1764
01:46:07,980 --> 01:46:16,710
look or read this thing over.
Okay, no. Screw him.

1765
01:46:17,610 --> 01:46:21,660
Yeah, I'm not thinking this is a
very, I am I have my problems,

1766
01:46:21,660 --> 01:46:24,120
not very aggressive for a big
talker. Now I

1767
01:46:25,140 --> 01:46:28,440
have my issues with the Oh, the
idea of a minimum wage, I think

1768
01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:31,680
it actually hurts. You know, I'm
not an economist that people

1769
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,980
can, can and will argue. And
please just don't send me email

1770
01:46:34,980 --> 01:46:37,710
about this. I don't need to hear
your you know, I get enough

1771
01:46:37,710 --> 01:46:40,320
grief from John on the show. I
don't need to hear about you

1772
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:43,740
know, the you know it better.
Unless you're Paul Krugman, and

1773
01:46:43,740 --> 01:46:48,990
I'll argue with you. If you have
a Nobel Prize in Economics, I

1774
01:46:48,990 --> 01:46:49,230
think

1775
01:46:49,260 --> 01:46:51,540
like the minimum wage, I don't
think it's a big deal. Everybody

1776
01:46:51,540 --> 01:46:54,330
makes a big stink about it. Why
don't you see the Republicans

1777
01:46:54,330 --> 01:46:58,770
Oh, how am I going to pay my
illegal alien Mexican person to

1778
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:04,170
clean my yard? No, that's no use
a contractor and they'll screw

1779
01:47:04,170 --> 01:47:04,830
the guy over.

1780
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:11,310
No, I like markets setting the
setting prices. I think that

1781
01:47:11,310 --> 01:47:14,820
makes more sense. You know, I'm
pumping my own gas. And I'm, you

1782
01:47:14,820 --> 01:47:18,510
know, there's less service
everywhere, which I which is

1783
01:47:18,510 --> 01:47:22,200
because there's less jobs
because you don't have college

1784
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:25,950
kids working for tips anymore?
Or just running around? You

1785
01:47:25,950 --> 01:47:31,560
know, checking your oil. Wiping
down the your windshield does

1786
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:32,280
that anymore? No,

1787
01:47:32,310 --> 01:47:35,220
because it's the last time you
in Oregon, by the way. It's

1788
01:47:35,220 --> 01:47:38,580
required by state law that you
cannot pump your own gas or

1789
01:47:38,580 --> 01:47:42,630
check your oil. Right? Well, it
has to be somebody has to come

1790
01:47:42,630 --> 01:47:43,380
out and do it for you.

1791
01:47:43,410 --> 01:47:47,850
Yeah. And jobs programme. Yeah.
And I think that minimum wage

1792
01:47:47,850 --> 01:47:52,590
hurts a lot of job
opportunities. I have I'm not an

1793
01:47:52,590 --> 01:47:55,260
economist. And people argue
about this all the time. But my

1794
01:47:55,260 --> 01:47:58,470
gut tells me that that's that's
kind of the case.

1795
01:47:58,890 --> 01:48:02,460
Yeah, you would be that way.
After listening to Tom Perkins

1796
01:48:02,460 --> 01:48:03,900
thing, I can see where you're
coming from

1797
01:48:03,930 --> 01:48:07,800
very interesting that you bring
that up seeing as Scott Adams

1798
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:12,720
completely agrees with me. He
wrote it, he wrote a very

1799
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:17,430
interesting piece called nerds
are taking your lunch money. And

1800
01:48:18,330 --> 01:48:25,590
he's, it's in the shownotes. He
even had to say because probably

1801
01:48:25,620 --> 01:48:28,050
people like you were yelling at
him warning. This blog is

1802
01:48:28,050 --> 01:48:30,570
written for a rational audience
that likes to have fun wrestling

1803
01:48:30,570 --> 01:48:33,900
with unique or controversial
points of view. It is written in

1804
01:48:33,900 --> 01:48:36,570
a style that can easily be
confused as advocacy for one

1805
01:48:36,570 --> 01:48:39,570
sort of unpleasantness or
another. It is not intended to

1806
01:48:39,570 --> 01:48:42,480
change anyone's beliefs or
actions. If you quote from this

1807
01:48:42,480 --> 01:48:44,700
post or link to it, which you're
welcome to please take

1808
01:48:44,700 --> 01:48:46,860
responsibility for whatever
happens if you mismatch, the

1809
01:48:46,860 --> 01:48:49,650
audience and the content. It's
exactly what happened to me.

1810
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:57,060
And well played, well play. And
he said, Scott Adams sad at me.

1811
01:48:57,060 --> 01:49:01,110
Yeah. Why don't you just want to
play the douchebag thing in a

1812
01:49:01,110 --> 01:49:01,800
minute me?

1813
01:49:01,890 --> 01:49:05,280
Is Perkins sort of a dick. Yes,
but I have some respect for the

1814
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:07,680
fact that he's not trying to be
a phoney and based on what I've

1815
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:11,850
read online, most of his critics
are ignorant dicks. That seems

1816
01:49:11,850 --> 01:49:15,240
one level worse than being a
well informed dick. The Nazi

1817
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:17,790
analogy wasn't politically
correct, nor wasn't brilliant

1818
01:49:17,790 --> 01:49:20,460
choice because all analogies
cause fights. And when you throw

1819
01:49:20,460 --> 01:49:23,340
in some Holocaust references,
you're just asking for trouble.

1820
01:49:23,700 --> 01:49:26,460
My verdict is Perkins point
about escalating contempt for

1821
01:49:26,460 --> 01:49:30,270
the rich, potentially leading to
violence is legitimate, in large

1822
01:49:30,270 --> 01:49:32,850
part because the media
contributes to economic literate

1823
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:36,510
illiteracy, and highlights the
bad apples in the top 1%.

1824
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,080
Totally agreeing with my point
about Perkins,

1825
01:49:40,890 --> 01:49:44,310
okay. I'm glad that he had well,
you know, he's worth millions I

1826
01:49:44,310 --> 01:49:47,400
can see why he would do that.
Likes guy nice guy.

1827
01:49:47,460 --> 01:49:52,200
Oh, yeah. Well, of course. But
yeah, this is also happening in

1828
01:49:52,230 --> 01:49:55,710
I guess the people were
protesting the Microsoft shuttle

1829
01:49:55,710 --> 01:49:56,580
in Seattle.

1830
01:49:57,870 --> 01:50:02,100
I didn't know they had one. Oh,
yeah. See? Well they throw eggs

1831
01:50:02,100 --> 01:50:06,120
the big thing is San Francisco
now is to throw eggs at the bus.

1832
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:09,960
Really? Yeah, that's like a big
deal. So if you're if the buses

1833
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,150
in your neighbourhood I saw one
late yesterday, by the way in

1834
01:50:12,150 --> 01:50:15,450
San Francisco just sitting there
parked illegally, it seems to

1835
01:50:15,450 --> 01:50:19,470
me. But anyway, they Yeah,
supposedly when your bus goes by

1836
01:50:19,500 --> 01:50:22,950
you you find out what the times
are and then you toss eggs at it

1837
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:24,780
as it goes by

1838
01:50:33,300 --> 01:50:38,310
chicken that's right. familiar
theme brought back this the war

1839
01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:39,480
on unborn chicken.

1840
01:50:40,350 --> 01:50:45,930
Well, in that case, I guess it
is. So here's I have one clip

1841
01:50:45,930 --> 01:50:47,880
here. I got a couple of
miscellaneous clips. I want to

1842
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:52,110
get out of the way. One of
them's kind of disgusting. And

1843
01:50:52,110 --> 01:50:55,320
the other one is just silly. You
want disgusting or silly

1844
01:50:56,580 --> 01:50:57,630
dealer's choice?

1845
01:50:59,130 --> 01:51:02,340
Well, let's start with silly.
I've said it before. I'll say it

1846
01:51:02,340 --> 01:51:08,640
again. This woman needs to get
go to a speech coach. She needs

1847
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:12,810
to get out of the office and do
some work. I if I had it. I used

1848
01:51:12,810 --> 01:51:16,650
to be a big fan of Janet Yellen.
I thought that she was really

1849
01:51:16,650 --> 01:51:18,510
great. But I hated the Fed

1850
01:51:18,540 --> 01:51:21,000
at home. If you were a fan of
where you're part of the Janet

1851
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:22,320
Yellen fan club.

1852
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:28,350
Yes, I was. I was one of that
was the treasurer. And I never

1853
01:51:28,350 --> 01:51:31,560
heard her talk. That's the
problem. She sounds like an old

1854
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:36,090
woman from Brooklyn. It's just a
really horrible, horrible speech

1855
01:51:36,090 --> 01:51:39,510
pattern that she has that she's
neat needs to fix immediately.

1856
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:45,030
My colleagues on the FOMC and I
anticipate that economic

1857
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:50,040
activity and employment will
expand at a moderate pace this

1858
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:55,140
year and next, the unemployment
rate will continue to decline.

1859
01:51:56,760 --> 01:52:02,550
sustainable level and inflation
will move back toward 2% over

1860
01:52:02,550 --> 01:52:03,900
coming years. Okay,

1861
01:52:03,930 --> 01:52:06,750
now what did you say? She sounds
like what?

1862
01:52:07,710 --> 01:52:10,350
Sounds like an old battle axe
from Brooklyn. Alright, so why

1863
01:52:10,350 --> 01:52:11,730
don't Long Island No,

1864
01:52:12,150 --> 01:52:16,530
no, man this that's not at all
what this is. What is it? This

1865
01:52:16,530 --> 01:52:18,930
is this is an old Jewish lady.

1866
01:52:19,950 --> 01:52:23,070
Oh, here we go again. Yeah, I'm
sorry. I wouldn't be Brooklyn.

1867
01:52:23,670 --> 01:52:25,350
That's why Queens Queens,

1868
01:52:26,370 --> 01:52:29,010
Brooklyn to could be there's a
little Italian in Brooklyn, but

1869
01:52:29,010 --> 01:52:33,960
it could be queens. But when she
said what talk like the Yeah.

1870
01:52:35,010 --> 01:52:35,490
Yeah,

1871
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:36,270
gotta go.

1872
01:52:37,890 --> 01:52:44,250
She she talked for six hours.
Did you want it? Did you watch

1873
01:52:44,250 --> 01:52:44,790
any of that?

1874
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:48,270
I can never I couldn't even
watch Bernanke when he was doing

1875
01:52:48,270 --> 01:52:54,000
these things. It's so dull.
Yeah, as opposed to this story,

1876
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:57,060
which I thought was interesting
and for some reason rubbed me

1877
01:52:57,060 --> 01:53:00,000
the wrong way. burgers in France

1878
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:05,550
now the Think of France Do you
think perhaps beautiful

1879
01:53:05,550 --> 01:53:09,180
mountains beautiful beaches? And
of course very important for me

1880
01:53:09,210 --> 01:53:11,610
beautiful food. The French
shrimp famous for their

1881
01:53:11,610 --> 01:53:16,200
traditional steak fruit perhaps
or a rich one gras. But what is

1882
01:53:16,230 --> 01:53:20,670
France his favourite food? Yes,
it is the humble burger with

1883
01:53:20,670 --> 01:53:24,570
sales going up by around 40%. In
fact, McDonald's says that

1884
01:53:24,570 --> 01:53:28,980
France is even its second
biggest market after the US who

1885
01:53:28,980 --> 01:53:29,670
should own sell

1886
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:35,220
meat on the griddle sauce on the
burn a few letters, leaves and a

1887
01:53:35,220 --> 01:53:39,480
slice of cheese. The burger is
ready in one minute flat. And it

1888
01:53:39,480 --> 01:53:44,760
has to be that many do you make
every day like 5000 at lunchtime

1889
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:48,420
this Paris branch of the fast
food chain quick is always

1890
01:53:48,420 --> 01:53:50,880
packed. So vicious battle. It's

1891
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,000
just a part of our lives now. Is
there a fast food chains

1892
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,430
everywhere good like traditional
groceries.

1893
01:53:56,460 --> 01:53:59,010
It's just a part of France is
food landscape.

1894
01:54:00,090 --> 01:54:04,410
The burger has well and truly
conquered France in 2007. One

1895
01:54:04,410 --> 01:54:08,130
out of every seven sandwiches
sold was a burger. By last year

1896
01:54:08,130 --> 01:54:12,060
that figure was one out of every
two French people jumped through

1897
01:54:12,060 --> 01:54:16,470
almost a billion burgers in
2013. In the country where

1898
01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:20,460
gastronomy is King traditional
brasseries are keen to tap into

1899
01:54:20,460 --> 01:54:24,090
that market and offer a better
class of burger profits.

1900
01:54:25,620 --> 01:54:28,380
When we opened the restaurant,
we tried to do a classic buried

1901
01:54:28,380 --> 01:54:31,590
menu. I said like people just
kept ordering burgers, burgers,

1902
01:54:31,590 --> 01:54:32,130
burgers.

1903
01:54:34,110 --> 01:54:38,610
75% of French restaurants offer
this quintessential American

1904
01:54:38,610 --> 01:54:40,830
dish, but with a French twist.

1905
01:54:43,350 --> 01:54:46,320
On those, I definitely prefer
ordering them in a restaurant or

1906
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,930
brasserie, that's where you find
something a bit more original

1907
01:54:49,170 --> 01:54:51,330
thought the basic bargain you
find them as chains but

1908
01:54:51,330 --> 01:54:53,580
something with a local church
that data can come through.

1909
01:54:54,540 --> 01:54:58,260
It's far cry from the days The
burger was denounced as Malibu

1910
01:54:58,260 --> 01:55:01,530
for bad food by free and
activist farmers

1911
01:55:02,550 --> 01:55:03,690
okay

1912
01:55:05,009 --> 01:55:07,679
you didn't think that was
horrible the horrible

1913
01:55:07,679 --> 01:55:11,429
development one and a half the
APA sandwiches sold in France or

1914
01:55:11,429 --> 01:55:14,699
burgers? I don't believe this
doesn't bother you

1915
01:55:14,729 --> 01:55:17,429
I don't believe it I think that
would have anything that was a

1916
01:55:18,479 --> 01:55:21,299
native advertising for
McDonald's i

1917
01:55:21,450 --> 01:55:25,140
don't know i don't believe quack
quack quack Oh, is

1918
01:55:25,140 --> 01:55:28,110
that their that's their that is
their kind of their thing isn't

1919
01:55:28,110 --> 01:55:28,260
it?

1920
01:55:28,379 --> 01:55:30,779
That was the one they slipped in
and that was the advertisement

1921
01:55:31,379 --> 01:55:37,169
is possible. I just don't
believe it. Okay, that's fine. I

1922
01:55:37,169 --> 01:55:41,309
don't care. You don't have to
believe it. There was Did you

1923
01:55:41,309 --> 01:55:44,909
know that Holanda? Holland,
Holland, Holland was in you

1924
01:55:44,909 --> 01:55:47,909
know, he went to a state one of
the seven state dinners they put

1925
01:55:47,909 --> 01:55:52,319
on just the other day? Yes, I
have the guest list. And then he

1926
01:55:52,349 --> 01:55:55,949
would you have you know who is
at the head table then? Um,

1927
01:55:56,339 --> 01:55:58,889
Bradley Cooper. One of them.

1928
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:05,160
Ken Erlich, who was gay was the
horrible producer of all these

1929
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:09,060
stupid award shows and needs to
be replaced. Mary J. Blige.

1930
01:56:09,780 --> 01:56:12,840
Chrissy was the singer. Yes. She
wasn't at the head table,

1931
01:56:12,870 --> 01:56:16,710
Christine Lagarde. I would say
she'd be at the head table. She

1932
01:56:16,710 --> 01:56:23,670
was and Ahmad Rashad who is
dating Valerie Jarrett. It's

1933
01:56:23,670 --> 01:56:24,030
true.

1934
01:56:24,900 --> 01:56:27,720
Yeah, no. Joke. I have a report
Julia

1935
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:30,630
Louie Louie Dreyfus, who was
sitting next to Biden, I bet

1936
01:56:30,630 --> 01:56:33,300
because that's really funny.
When you get the VT next to the

1937
01:56:33,300 --> 01:56:33,630
VP?

1938
01:56:35,940 --> 01:56:39,360
That would be yes, I don't think
Biden was at the head table.

1939
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,650
You have a report along the part
one half a couple of

1940
01:56:43,650 --> 01:56:46,320
reports are with this first one
is if you want to hear this to

1941
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:50,220
short that well, that's actually
too long. Here's the the long

1942
01:56:50,220 --> 01:56:53,130
was the part to play the part
two, which is a little

1943
01:56:53,130 --> 01:56:55,530
discussion of who showed up. And
there was I thought a couple of

1944
01:56:55,530 --> 01:56:56,910
surprises at the head table.

1945
01:56:56,940 --> 01:57:01,710
I've only been seven of these
states or official visits during

1946
01:57:01,710 --> 01:57:05,370
the whole time that Barack Obama
has spent in the White House. So

1947
01:57:05,370 --> 01:57:08,010
what this brings together is the
great and good of this world,

1948
01:57:08,190 --> 01:57:12,450
all sorts of fascinating
juxtapositions of politicians

1949
01:57:12,450 --> 01:57:15,360
and celebrities. First of all,
let's get this out of the way.

1950
01:57:15,780 --> 01:57:19,680
The dress worn by Michelle Obama
by Karolina Herrera, if that's

1951
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:23,280
the kind of fact that you're
interested in. But in terms of

1952
01:57:23,310 --> 01:57:26,100
the guests, we'll look at this
Stephen Colbert, for example,

1953
01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:29,220
the comedian at the head table.
He's the author of one of the

1954
01:57:29,220 --> 01:57:33,570
most stinging attacks on fossil
Island. On his relationship

1955
01:57:33,570 --> 01:57:37,380
status post splits with Valerie
travailler. He was put up at the

1956
01:57:37,380 --> 01:57:40,770
head table, the actor Bradley
Cooper there as well, the likes

1957
01:57:40,770 --> 01:57:43,830
of the IMF head, Christine
Lagarde, a lot of Cabinet

1958
01:57:43,830 --> 01:57:46,440
members as well. And
interestingly enough, the head

1959
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:49,980
of the NSA as well, Keith
Alexander, now these state

1960
01:57:49,980 --> 01:57:54,150
dinners was the chance for a bit
of joking around to show how

1961
01:57:54,180 --> 01:57:57,450
friendly the relationship really
is between these two heads of

1962
01:57:57,450 --> 01:57:59,640
state. Here's a quote from
Forrester alarm, speaking

1963
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:03,900
directly to Barack Obama saying
this. We love the United States

1964
01:58:03,900 --> 01:58:06,540
and you love the French,
although you're sometimes too

1965
01:58:06,540 --> 01:58:10,140
shy to say so yes, it is a
little bit dangerous for a US

1966
01:58:10,140 --> 01:58:13,530
president to get that little bit
too close to a socialist

1967
01:58:13,530 --> 01:58:16,830
president. A little bit of
dancing as well. In the end, by

1968
01:58:16,830 --> 01:58:20,040
the way, the White House
delegations and the French

1969
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:23,130
delegations, all dancing a
little bit in that room to Mary

1970
01:58:23,130 --> 01:58:28,170
J. Blige. By the way, she was
the entertainment part of this

1971
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:29,550
state dinner here in Washington.

1972
01:58:30,030 --> 01:58:31,290
It's good to be the king, man.

1973
01:58:31,860 --> 01:58:34,110
How can we don't get invited to
these things?

1974
01:58:34,140 --> 01:58:38,760
I got an invite from Hillary
Clinton once. I still have the

1975
01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:44,070
invitation. And the invitation.
It went to the empty as MTV

1976
01:58:44,070 --> 01:58:49,440
days, it went to the MTV offices
and some bitch sat on the

1977
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:53,310
invitation. And oh, like three
days after the event? Oh, yeah,

1978
01:58:53,310 --> 01:58:58,410
this came free with the office.
Yeah, so I didn't make and of

1979
01:58:58,410 --> 01:59:01,860
course, we want you. You stand
them up, but loved there at MTV.

1980
01:59:01,860 --> 01:59:04,980
Oh, no. Once you stand him up,
then you never get asked back

1981
01:59:04,980 --> 01:59:05,400
again.

1982
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:12,960
No, you didn't even RSVP. That's
why Yeah, you're Vitia dickhead,

1983
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:13,050
the

1984
01:59:13,050 --> 01:59:17,100
First Lady requests your
presence. I didn't I didn't

1985
01:59:17,100 --> 01:59:20,910
respond to the First Lady. And
you know now, persona non grata.

1986
01:59:20,910 --> 01:59:21,060
Was

1987
01:59:21,060 --> 01:59:22,470
it for a big dinner or
something?

1988
01:59:22,530 --> 01:59:27,300
I don't remember fundraiser. No,
it was some. I'm sure it was

1989
01:59:27,300 --> 01:59:30,180
some internet related thing. You
know how that goes.

1990
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:33,840
You know, you got to meet the
Queen,

1991
01:59:33,870 --> 01:59:36,810
which was also in it when she
relaunched her website that's

1992
01:59:36,930 --> 01:59:40,080
that's when I was invited there.
Oh, yes. This is here we have

1993
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:41,880
this American champion has
something to do with the

1994
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:43,500
Internet. So this is him put him
on a list.

1995
01:59:45,420 --> 01:59:48,120
So that's how I got the reason
it seemed online when they gave

1996
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:50,250
a couple of speeches at the
beginning and have the clip but

1997
01:59:50,250 --> 01:59:54,930
I could just summarise quicker.
He made the point he says one

1998
01:59:54,930 --> 01:59:57,990
good thing about our two
countries is that respect to

1999
01:59:57,990 --> 02:00:00,930
tell me what you think this
message was. We respect each

2000
02:00:00,930 --> 02:00:06,060
other's sovereignty. Put Keith
Alexander at the head table,

2001
02:00:06,090 --> 02:00:09,510
I think I think that also may be
a little bit about the Central

2002
02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:15,750
African Republic. There's, it's
a little confusing what's

2003
02:00:15,750 --> 02:00:19,140
happening there, the French are
supposed to be in charge, and

2004
02:00:19,140 --> 02:00:21,960
they're not really doing a great
job. And then we have Christians

2005
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:24,000
now killing Muslims reportedly.

2006
02:00:25,050 --> 02:00:28,710
That's the key here. That's
reportedly, I have a couple

2007
02:00:28,710 --> 02:00:32,250
clips on that instance, we were
talking about play us in Africa

2008
02:00:32,250 --> 02:00:36,720
with French is interesting, has
several military

2009
02:00:36,780 --> 02:00:40,140
bases. So looking at the map,
then just reminders where they

2010
02:00:40,140 --> 02:00:43,140
propagate so far, and where they
may cooperate in the future.

2011
02:00:43,590 --> 02:00:44,550
Well, we cooperated a

2012
02:00:44,550 --> 02:00:49,980
lot in Mali, because the US had
just set up a drone base in

2013
02:00:50,010 --> 02:00:54,570
neighbouring Asia when the
French to come a jihadists in

2014
02:00:54,570 --> 02:00:58,050
northern Mali. So those drones
help France with its

2015
02:00:58,050 --> 02:01:03,180
intelligence, US also helping
with Air to Air refuelling that

2016
02:01:03,180 --> 02:01:05,880
was very important. More
recently, in the Central African

2017
02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:08,460
Republic. In that conflict,
we've seen the US provide

2018
02:01:08,460 --> 02:01:12,300
African forces with big
transport planes, C seven teams.

2019
02:01:12,780 --> 02:01:16,830
In terms of future hotspots, one
place that we definitely need to

2020
02:01:16,830 --> 02:01:20,790
keep an eye on is Southern
Libya. And last week, a

2021
02:01:20,790 --> 02:01:25,410
government minister in Niger air
said that this was an the new

2022
02:01:25,410 --> 02:01:29,730
breeding ground, essentially,
for jihadists. So I think we can

2023
02:01:29,730 --> 02:01:33,390
expect that high level French us
group that you mentioned in your

2024
02:01:33,390 --> 02:01:36,840
introduction to take a very
close look at Southern Libya.

2025
02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:44,010
Okay, hold on a second. Now,
Niger air, which isn't that

2026
02:01:44,010 --> 02:01:48,540
isn't that the Djibouti base in
Niger? No, no, no, no. Djibouti,

2027
02:01:48,660 --> 02:01:51,330
Djibouti has its own country.
I'm sorry. Where's new shares?

2028
02:01:51,330 --> 02:01:52,950
That is that West Africa?

2029
02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:55,920
Yes, West is West. Yeah, it's
West. It's part of that whole

2030
02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:58,410
group of West African countries,
right, Ghana as

2031
02:01:59,940 --> 02:02:02,940
well. So they have I've had not
heard a lot about that drone

2032
02:02:02,940 --> 02:02:03,480
base.

2033
02:02:03,870 --> 02:02:06,060
I didn't hear about that was the
first time I heard about it.

2034
02:02:06,090 --> 02:02:07,800
Here's here's a report I have
about

2035
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:10,530
the Djibouti base, which is
huge.

2036
02:02:10,590 --> 02:02:13,680
The Americans have got an
enormous and extensive

2037
02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:17,070
intelligence and satellite
intelligence gathering

2038
02:02:17,070 --> 02:02:21,660
operation, very much centred
here in Djibouti, there is

2039
02:02:21,690 --> 02:02:24,930
within this camp, and this is a
huge sprawling camp. It's got

2040
02:02:24,930 --> 02:02:28,800
helicopters that fly long range
missions, they're able to refuel

2041
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:32,820
using those long pylons out the
front, they can fly deep into

2042
02:02:32,820 --> 02:02:36,300
Somalia, they can even get their
planes as far as the borders of

2043
02:02:36,300 --> 02:02:39,870
South Africa, Mozambique, South
Sudan, they even deployed to

2044
02:02:39,870 --> 02:02:43,620
South Sudan recently. But
essentially, what they're doing

2045
02:02:43,740 --> 02:02:46,770
is they're cooperating with
local countries in the region,

2046
02:02:46,980 --> 02:02:49,890
countries like Kenya very much,
of course, which suffered the

2047
02:02:49,890 --> 02:02:53,520
Nairobi attack, training their
soldiers to get to join Amazon

2048
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:56,370
and go into Somalia, and carry
the fight out for them and

2049
02:02:56,370 --> 02:03:00,330
giving them that technical
expertise. This is my third

2050
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:03,870
visit next to this country. And
unlike in the surrounding

2051
02:03:03,870 --> 02:03:07,290
countries, I've detected very
little resentment against this

2052
02:03:07,290 --> 02:03:10,260
camp. Now it is probably going
to make Djibouti a bit of a

2053
02:03:10,260 --> 02:03:13,560
target. The foreign minister
said we feel we are a target for

2054
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:14,760
Al Shabaab. Yeah. He said

2055
02:03:15,990 --> 02:03:20,370
there was there was another one
of these congressional scripted

2056
02:03:20,370 --> 02:03:27,270
hearings with clapper and who
else? Couple other these guys.

2057
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:32,520
And they were talking about the
terrorism. And of course, we

2058
02:03:32,520 --> 02:03:37,470
always are told that al Qaeda
has been decimated.

2059
02:03:39,330 --> 02:03:42,930
But depends, right? Well, that's
exactly right. convenience of

2060
02:03:42,930 --> 02:03:45,720
the assertion, right. So here's.

2061
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:51,630
Here's Jay Johnson of
department. He's our new

2062
02:03:51,630 --> 02:03:57,450
Secretary of Homeland Security.
Who kind of explains how we're

2063
02:03:57,450 --> 02:04:01,110
weaselling out of this, with all
these fuzzy words,

2064
02:04:01,110 --> 02:04:04,350
counterterrorism efforts in both
the Bush and Obama

2065
02:04:04,350 --> 02:04:08,250
administrations, we have put
down kind of poor leadership on

2066
02:04:08,250 --> 02:04:08,790
the path.

2067
02:04:09,570 --> 02:04:12,420
He's reading a prompter, by the
way, so I'll Kaijus core

2068
02:04:12,420 --> 02:04:14,280
leadership on the path to defeat
but

2069
02:04:14,970 --> 02:04:16,500
the threat has evolved.

2070
02:04:16,980 --> 02:04:18,150
The threat has evolved.

2071
02:04:18,780 --> 02:04:23,490
Since about 2009. We saw the
rise of al Qaeda affiliates,

2072
02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:27,510
such as Al Qaeda in the Arabian
Peninsula, which has made

2073
02:04:27,510 --> 02:04:31,860
repeated efforts to export
terrorism to our homeland, our

2074
02:04:31,860 --> 02:04:35,250
government working with others
must continually divide these

2075
02:04:35,250 --> 02:04:39,840
affiliates that they take a
place to hide training and from

2076
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:41,820
which to launch terrorist
attacks.

2077
02:04:41,940 --> 02:04:45,960
Okay, so what he's saying is my
job is safe because we have all

2078
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:49,920
these affiliates who are
training and we'll send them to

2079
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:55,440
the homeland here. That's
America to kill people. Inhofe

2080
02:04:55,470 --> 02:05:00,600
asked the question specifically
at clapper who was supposed to

2081
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:03,240
know everything about all things
intelligence keep

2082
02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:05,280
hearing these things that
different people the

2083
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:09,930
administration is talking about.
Al Qaeda is on the run on the

2084
02:05:09,930 --> 02:05:14,010
path to defeat. If you look at
this chart up here, it depicts

2085
02:05:14,010 --> 02:05:17,790
that the al Qaeda and its allies
have a presence and are now

2086
02:05:17,790 --> 02:05:20,820
operating and it's to me it's
just the opposite of that. What?

2087
02:05:21,390 --> 02:05:25,680
This yes or no, each one of you
is kinda on the run and on the

2088
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:28,290
path to defeat No, it

2089
02:05:28,290 --> 02:05:34,260
is morphing and, and franchising
itself, not only here, but other

2090
02:05:34,260 --> 02:05:35,040
areas of the world.

2091
02:05:35,310 --> 02:05:39,360
Yes, it's going to be quick. In
France. Oh, kinda on the quick

2092
02:05:40,380 --> 02:05:41,790
franchising everywhere, John

2093
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:45,480
Bell, McDonald's, look out.

2094
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:51,030
Then clapper gave us an
incredible new number. How many

2095
02:05:51,030 --> 02:05:53,490
terrorists do you think there
are out there and of course,

2096
02:05:53,490 --> 02:05:56,730
this would all be in kind of in
the African region, which is

2097
02:05:56,730 --> 02:06:00,480
where we're, you know, we're
moving out of Afghanistan. I

2098
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:04,110
want to hear your Poppy thing as
part of this. How many

2099
02:06:04,110 --> 02:06:06,990
terrorists do you believe think
that are in in the continent of

2100
02:06:06,990 --> 02:06:07,530
Africa

2101
02:06:08,340 --> 02:06:09,570
30,000.

2102
02:06:09,870 --> 02:06:12,690
Looking back over my now more
than half a century and

2103
02:06:12,690 --> 02:06:14,880
intelligence I've not
experienced the time when we've

2104
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:21,210
been beset by more crises and
threats around the globe. It is

2105
02:06:21,210 --> 02:06:25,410
long, my list is long. It
includes the Scourge and

2106
02:06:25,410 --> 02:06:28,350
diversification terrorism
loosely connected and globally

2107
02:06:28,350 --> 02:06:32,580
dispersed to include here at
home, as it is amplified by the

2108
02:06:32,580 --> 02:06:37,440
Boston Marathon bombing. And by
the sectarian video war in

2109
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:41,010
Syria, its attraction as a
growing centre of radical

2110
02:06:41,010 --> 02:06:44,460
extremism and the potential
threat this poses now to the

2111
02:06:44,460 --> 02:06:49,230
homeland. Let me briefly expand
on this point, the strength of

2112
02:06:49,230 --> 02:06:53,040
the insurgency is now estimated
at somewhere between 75 to

2113
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:57,150
80,000 on the low end, and 110
to 115,000 on the high end,

2114
02:06:58,050 --> 02:07:01,800
we're organised into more than
1500 groups of widely varying

2115
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:03,960
political leanings I love

2116
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:10,650
this 1500 groups the these guys
set themselves why don't

2117
02:07:10,650 --> 02:07:14,160
we just start firing but there's
that many of them they must be

2118
02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:17,400
in large order you should be
able to just drought drone by

2119
02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:23,460
the hundreds Yeah. You should at
invasion in the kitchen. The

2120
02:07:23,460 --> 02:07:23,760
share

2121
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:27,090
is very interesting. It seems
like there's like if I just look

2122
02:07:27,090 --> 02:07:32,370
at the map it looks very brown.
Just like no green not doesn't

2123
02:07:32,370 --> 02:07:34,140
look like an attractive place to
be.

2124
02:07:35,430 --> 02:07:40,380
Nor does Libya where do you
think the best place to go out

2125
02:07:40,380 --> 02:07:40,920
of their way

2126
02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:43,830
to you know, I'm I did this
little thing in the newsletter

2127
02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:47,160
about the the ease in which you
can move the poppy fields to

2128
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:53,460
parts of Africa. And there's
lots more room. And so I'm

2129
02:07:53,460 --> 02:07:55,740
looking at the Central African
Republicans who put everything

2130
02:07:55,740 --> 02:07:58,110
I've ever seen in your watch.
The news is just some guy

2131
02:07:58,110 --> 02:08:01,350
walking down a dirt road and a
bunch of shanties, and it's just

2132
02:08:01,350 --> 02:08:04,590
dusty. And as everything's all
that's missing is the Tumbleweed

2133
02:08:05,700 --> 02:08:10,110
and you go and you look at
Central African Republic,

2134
02:08:11,220 --> 02:08:14,160
agriculture and you start Genda
and you just hit the images and

2135
02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:17,640
you get this a lush green, it's
always raining there's plenty of

2136
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:20,610
water. It's more like Myanmar in
terms of you can grow poppies

2137
02:08:20,610 --> 02:08:24,180
and don't have to worry about
about irrigation like you would

2138
02:08:24,180 --> 02:08:28,080
in lots of other parts of
Africa. And it's just like, this

2139
02:08:28,110 --> 02:08:32,910
image that we have we West
Africa is not the Sahara Desert.

2140
02:08:32,940 --> 02:08:36,030
No, in fact, if you look on
Google Maps, you'll see this car

2141
02:08:36,030 --> 02:08:40,920
is beautiful grace under Chad
shod and it's green. The only

2142
02:08:40,920 --> 02:08:44,280
greener piece would be the
Republic of the Congo.

2143
02:08:45,420 --> 02:08:48,150
Right which looks right that's
where you get your jungle Green

2144
02:08:49,740 --> 02:08:51,870
Kale. It looks like kale

2145
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:57,270
looks at the probably is kale, a
lot of kale. Well, it looks to

2146
02:08:57,270 --> 02:08:59,760
me they got to grow straight and
they grow pretty much everything

2147
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:02,580
in the Central African Republic
got strawberries and all kinds

2148
02:09:02,580 --> 02:09:05,580
of stuff. It's just it's it
looks like you could have a good

2149
02:09:05,580 --> 02:09:07,290
meal there. If you find somebody
could cook.

2150
02:09:07,710 --> 02:09:11,610
We really just need to what is
frustrating to me is this

2151
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:13,950
continuous loop and I think
people are getting very

2152
02:09:14,190 --> 02:09:18,450
literally physically ill from
what is happening the way we're

2153
02:09:18,450 --> 02:09:22,890
being inundated with these with
these messages nonstop. And wood

2154
02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:26,100
we're killing Americans and we
have everywhere. It's everyone's

2155
02:09:26,100 --> 02:09:29,790
crazy and they're all terrorists
and hundreds of 1000s of them

2156
02:09:29,790 --> 02:09:35,940
and When will someone say hey,
why do they want to kill us?

2157
02:09:37,350 --> 02:09:40,020
They don't like our way of life
Adam.

2158
02:09:40,950 --> 02:09:46,080
They don't read our freedoms.
Yeah, they don't like our

2159
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:46,860
freedoms

2160
02:09:47,580 --> 02:09:48,330
already

2161
02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:51,570
made this claim. Yeah, but I
think it needs to be we

2162
02:09:51,750 --> 02:09:54,360
don't like our freedoms. They
don't like our way of life. They

2163
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:59,970
want to kill us. They don't want
to take on our way of life or or

2164
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:04,710
quote unquote, freedoms, they
want to kill us. Okay, that

2165
02:10:04,710 --> 02:10:05,520
makes sense.

2166
02:10:07,649 --> 02:10:11,879
It's, well, I just wish someone
would revisit the question from

2167
02:10:11,879 --> 02:10:14,759
time to time would help people
rationalise what is happening.

2168
02:10:17,340 --> 02:10:21,900
It's not in anybody's interest.
No, there's no money to be made

2169
02:10:22,470 --> 02:10:25,680
by asking that question over and
over like you just did No, no, I

2170
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:28,740
understand no profit in it. And

2171
02:10:31,110 --> 02:10:36,780
JF Carey made a weird comment
during the Munich Conference,

2172
02:10:36,810 --> 02:10:41,550
the security conference, where
all the, I guess security guys

2173
02:10:41,550 --> 02:10:45,720
go hang out. And it was
interpreted very strangely and

2174
02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:48,360
aggressively by mainly by
Israel. You see, for

2175
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:51,960
Israel, there's an increasing de
legitimization campaign that has

2176
02:10:51,960 --> 02:10:55,410
been building up. People are
very sensitive to it. They're

2177
02:10:55,410 --> 02:10:59,430
talking about boycotts and other
kinds of things. Are we all

2178
02:10:59,430 --> 02:11:01,320
going to be better with all of
that?

2179
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:05,400
Now, the way this has been
interpreted by a lot of Israeli

2180
02:11:05,760 --> 02:11:10,230
elites and leaders is Hey, shut
up. Carrie. Do you? Are you

2181
02:11:10,260 --> 02:11:13,170
threatening us with a boycott,
but that's not really what's

2182
02:11:13,170 --> 02:11:17,670
happening. And I've been
following a couple of our

2183
02:11:17,670 --> 02:11:23,460
producers who have is Israeli,
Israeli cool.com and a couple of

2184
02:11:23,460 --> 02:11:28,230
blogs. And there have been some,
some interesting boycotts from

2185
02:11:28,230 --> 02:11:33,780
musicians. Scarlett Johansson is
boycotted some soda company. She

2186
02:11:33,780 --> 02:11:42,360
was promoting their drink. Roger
Waters, I think is is being very

2187
02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:46,290
politically outspoken. And
what's really happening is

2188
02:11:46,290 --> 02:11:47,430
explained here by Ross, you

2189
02:11:47,430 --> 02:11:48,870
say about Scarlett Johansson.

2190
02:11:48,900 --> 02:11:54,150
She's boycotted the drink
company. She was promoting

2191
02:11:54,180 --> 02:11:55,050
SodaStream I

2192
02:11:55,050 --> 02:11:57,330
think it's noticed stream she's
not working for him anymore.

2193
02:11:57,360 --> 02:12:03,330
No, no, thanks. So I think she
said oh, I because and there is

2194
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:04,380
there is talk factory

2195
02:12:04,380 --> 02:12:06,480
in the Palestinian areas,
although

2196
02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:09,870
apparently, if you went back to
the 67 borders, it would still

2197
02:12:09,870 --> 02:12:12,750
be within those borders. I'm not
quite sure. But there is some

2198
02:12:12,750 --> 02:12:15,720
talk of a boycott. And that's
really what Kerry was referring

2199
02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:20,460
to. And he's he's really on
Israel side, which is what's

2200
02:12:20,460 --> 02:12:23,640
very interesting, as Robert
Wexler explains,

2201
02:12:23,700 --> 02:12:26,160
is former Florida Congressman
Robert Wexler. He's president of

2202
02:12:26,160 --> 02:12:28,200
the Abraham Centre for Middle
East peace,

2203
02:12:28,230 --> 02:12:31,380
whatever that means. Sounds like
another NGO to me,

2204
02:12:31,559 --> 02:12:33,809
Congressman, good to see you.
Good morning. You know, this

2205
02:12:33,809 --> 02:12:38,519
first popped up on my radar, I
get a lot of Israeli newspapers,

2206
02:12:38,519 --> 02:12:40,829
we get a whole thing. But this
first popped up on my radar ha

2207
02:12:40,829 --> 02:12:43,949
rats did a story about this
during the Mandela funeral about

2208
02:12:43,949 --> 02:12:47,729
saying that there is fear in
Israel among the Israel business

2209
02:12:47,729 --> 02:12:50,039
community that there's a tipping
point that what happened to

2210
02:12:50,039 --> 02:12:53,729
South Africa in the 80s could be
globally what could happen to

2211
02:12:53,729 --> 02:12:56,909
Israel? Now in 2014, and 2015.

2212
02:12:56,940 --> 02:12:58,980
That's really interesting. By
the way, I think Scarlett

2213
02:12:58,980 --> 02:13:01,530
Johansson quit Oxfam or some
other thing.

2214
02:13:02,339 --> 02:13:05,639
But now here's what happened
because I faxed it a bunch of

2215
02:13:05,639 --> 02:13:09,149
clips about this. We never
played Scarlett Johansson went

2216
02:13:09,149 --> 02:13:11,699
to work for SodaStream for a
huge amount of money, then then

2217
02:13:11,699 --> 02:13:15,509
they get a bunch of flack from
the Palestinians, because I

2218
02:13:15,509 --> 02:13:18,059
guess SodaStream is making this
some of these devices in

2219
02:13:18,059 --> 02:13:21,449
Palestine areas, and they don't
want the money. I have no idea

2220
02:13:21,449 --> 02:13:25,079
what the real basis was. But
then Oxfam got all bent out of

2221
02:13:25,079 --> 02:13:28,679
shape, because it was somehow
anti Palestinian, and they're so

2222
02:13:28,709 --> 02:13:31,439
hooked in there. And she was one
of the board members. And they

2223
02:13:31,439 --> 02:13:34,949
came and they said they asked
her to quit and she quit easily

2224
02:13:34,949 --> 02:13:42,209
gladly and she left. So the
Yeah, that's the social, she's

2225
02:13:42,209 --> 02:13:45,569
still working for Sodastream.
Okay, so this sounds like it

2226
02:13:45,569 --> 02:13:46,259
would make sense.

2227
02:13:46,350 --> 02:13:49,350
What is what has happened? I
lied, like what would Wexler

2228
02:13:49,350 --> 02:13:53,340
just said that there's now this
noise that I'm sure it's all

2229
02:13:53,340 --> 02:13:57,270
NGOs. Everyone's getting all
upset and saying, Hey, we can

2230
02:13:57,270 --> 02:14:02,430
turn Israel into what South
Africa was with apartheid, which

2231
02:14:02,430 --> 02:14:07,140
would mean the whole world
against Israel. Are they are

2232
02:14:07,140 --> 02:14:08,700
they Is there something to this?

2233
02:14:08,760 --> 02:14:13,590
Well, of course there is because
large European institutions,

2234
02:14:13,680 --> 02:14:16,920
financial institutions, in
particular have begun to adopt

2235
02:14:16,920 --> 02:14:21,120
policies that are punitive with
respect Israel, and Europe is

2236
02:14:21,120 --> 02:14:24,300
Israel still biggest trading
partner, Prime Minister

2237
02:14:24,300 --> 02:14:28,620
Netanyahu made an extraordinary
speech recently at the Davos

2238
02:14:28,620 --> 02:14:32,160
world economic conference in
which he outlined this this

2239
02:14:32,160 --> 02:14:36,120
remarkable innovation nation. I
mentioned it because after he

2240
02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:38,820
was done with the speech, he
then did an interview with a

2241
02:14:38,820 --> 02:14:42,300
European journalist, which I
assume the Israeli government

2242
02:14:42,300 --> 02:14:46,110
chose, and all the journalists
wanted to talk about was Israel

2243
02:14:46,110 --> 02:14:49,140
settlement policy. Prime
Minister Netanyahu went back to

2244
02:14:49,140 --> 02:14:52,860
Israel called an emergency
cabinet meeting to discuss

2245
02:14:52,860 --> 02:14:56,340
what's happening in Europe.
That's what Secretary Kerry was

2246
02:14:56,340 --> 02:14:59,790
referring to, and what's
important, three people on this

2247
02:14:59,790 --> 02:15:03,240
earth For the last four years
have done more to stop the

2248
02:15:03,240 --> 02:15:06,810
boycott effort and mitigate its
disastrous consequences.

2249
02:15:06,990 --> 02:15:10,470
President Obama, Secretary Kerry
and Secretary Clinton,

2250
02:15:10,740 --> 02:15:17,040
interesting. That's our special
relationship. But it seems like

2251
02:15:17,040 --> 02:15:18,330
Europe is having none of it.

2252
02:15:23,910 --> 02:15:29,160
Oh, wow. Did I lose you? John?
Hold on. I think somehow we we

2253
02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:36,300
blew up. Hold on, hold on, hold
on. We have to. And we're back.

2254
02:15:36,300 --> 02:15:40,380
Okay, good. Yes. You were saying
which we understood nothing.

2255
02:15:42,600 --> 02:15:44,820
I didn't get the clip throat
start breaking up. And you're

2256
02:15:44,820 --> 02:15:47,580
gonna have to? Oh, okay. I'm
sorry. So just tell me just to

2257
02:15:47,580 --> 02:15:48,180
summarise from

2258
02:15:48,750 --> 02:15:52,680
essentially, the only three
people who've done really tried

2259
02:15:52,680 --> 02:15:58,740
to stop a boycott of your large
European countries and companies

2260
02:15:59,190 --> 02:16:05,490
are Obama, Kerry and Clinton and
Hillary Clinton. But I didn't

2261
02:16:05,490 --> 02:16:09,480
know that Europe was also know
that this was really a big deal.

2262
02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:16,110
I didn't either. Don't have to
think about what Oxfam is up to.

2263
02:16:17,220 --> 02:16:17,610
Well,

2264
02:16:17,610 --> 02:16:21,810
these are all these
organisations, man. It's tough.

2265
02:16:22,350 --> 02:16:25,350
Very, very hard to you can't be
I don't think you can get a

2266
02:16:25,470 --> 02:16:29,160
there is Oxfam USA, I can get a
form 990 from them. But it's

2267
02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:31,620
very hard to do anything I know,
it won't really don't want to

2268
02:16:31,620 --> 02:16:32,130
help. No,

2269
02:16:32,190 --> 02:16:35,880
no, this whole NGO thing, which
we mentioned earlier, is is is

2270
02:16:35,880 --> 02:16:39,360
scandalous. I mean, there's no
way that we can get a handle on

2271
02:16:39,360 --> 02:16:42,510
a lot of the things going on
until we get a real handle on

2272
02:16:42,510 --> 02:16:45,390
these these operations and what
they're up to been behind the

2273
02:16:45,390 --> 02:16:46,260
scenes, the only

2274
02:16:46,259 --> 02:16:48,479
thing you can do is you can
follow the money you can see

2275
02:16:48,479 --> 02:16:52,859
which which NGOs are handing
money to which other NGOs and

2276
02:16:52,859 --> 02:16:55,769
you can follow that down the
line a little bit. But when you

2277
02:16:55,769 --> 02:16:59,219
get you know, 501 C threes, and
there's a lot of things that

2278
02:16:59,219 --> 02:17:02,429
don't have to talk about and
don't have to disclose who all

2279
02:17:02,429 --> 02:17:08,489
their donors are you kind of
lose track. And it's, but it is

2280
02:17:08,489 --> 02:17:11,519
interesting that that is exactly
what if so, maybe we should just

2281
02:17:11,519 --> 02:17:17,729
call ourselves an NGO. I was
thinking of forming one. Yeah,

2282
02:17:17,759 --> 02:17:19,469
it just the sole purpose

2283
02:17:19,470 --> 02:17:22,830
of the NGO is to promote the no
agenda show. Yeah. Yeah.

2284
02:17:22,980 --> 02:17:27,000
It's the NA NGO, in a NGO.

2285
02:17:27,510 --> 02:17:30,840
Yeah, there's a song in that and
there is I'm gonna show my

2286
02:17:30,840 --> 02:17:34,380
school by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could

2287
02:17:34,380 --> 02:17:36,120
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

2288
02:17:44,340 --> 02:17:47,520
so what was the record time on
that breakup of the of the

2289
02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:51,840
product? Oh, turn logging the

2290
02:17:51,990 --> 02:17:55,320
oh, I don't know. It'll be like
217 or something.

2291
02:17:55,680 --> 02:17:59,640
Now I started to I knew that two
hours. Okay. We want to thank a

2292
02:17:59,640 --> 02:18:04,770
few people that helped us out on
show 591 including Dame and

2293
02:18:04,770 --> 02:18:09,060
Draya Garni. A. in the Rocky
Mountain House of Alberta,

2294
02:18:09,060 --> 02:18:12,090
Canada, also known we went to
$23.33 Dame

2295
02:18:12,090 --> 02:18:15,030
Andrea, checking in we have with
the executive order.

2296
02:18:15,840 --> 02:18:21,390
We have a couple of the
apparently, sir Dallas gonna

2297
02:18:21,390 --> 02:18:25,050
legally drink all the booze,
beer Rosae single malt, scotch,

2298
02:18:25,050 --> 02:18:28,500
Chardonnay, vodka, bourbon,
sparkling cider, Cabernet and

2299
02:18:28,500 --> 02:18:34,440
Mead. He wants nice in the great
state of oil. Berta who? I can

2300
02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:39,870
use that. Maxwell thin in
Seattle, Washington $111.11.

2301
02:18:39,870 --> 02:18:43,500
They do not have a list of call
outs for him from him. Kutta

2302
02:18:43,530 --> 02:18:47,610
Computer Services Pacifica
California $100. Max you Maxwell

2303
02:18:47,640 --> 02:18:57,090
Matthew Livingston, Sudbury.
$100. Graham Scott. Nein nein

2304
02:18:57,090 --> 02:18:57,900
nein Nein.

2305
02:18:57,959 --> 02:19:00,569
Can I just say about Matthew
Livingstone. I'm just reading

2306
02:19:00,569 --> 02:19:03,779
the note. The donation is in
memory of his mother, Sandra

2307
02:19:03,779 --> 02:19:07,439
Livingstone, who passed away
December 13 2013. She'd love

2308
02:19:07,439 --> 02:19:11,879
what you guys talk about an
expose. Love you mom. Oh,

2309
02:19:12,719 --> 02:19:17,219
nice. Or not nice in one way.
Nice. And another. Graham Scott

2310
02:19:17,219 --> 02:19:25,169
in boiling up. boiling up in
Australia. 9999 Brian Williams

2311
02:19:25,169 --> 02:19:36,599
7373 Streamwood Illinois, Dwayne
Parker 6969 Minot North Dakota.

2312
02:19:37,049 --> 02:19:43,289
Eric Thorson, Bergen poured the
land in Norway and that is the

2313
02:19:43,289 --> 02:19:45,029
end of the 6969 that

2314
02:19:45,300 --> 02:19:49,830
might really be the end to only
let's hope. Christian Smith

2315
02:19:49,830 --> 02:19:58,650
and Blyton Lincolnshire, UK 60
Ryan Van Mesa, Arizona 5555

2316
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,370
Hold on, Christian Smith.

2317
02:20:02,670 --> 02:20:04,260
Oh yes, she has a nice note
because

2318
02:20:04,290 --> 02:20:06,720
as I said last show, my 13 year
old daughter has started

2319
02:20:06,720 --> 02:20:09,000
listening to the show. I can't
believe I forgot to put her name

2320
02:20:09,000 --> 02:20:12,210
on the note. If you could do a
shout out to Lauren, I'm sure

2321
02:20:12,210 --> 02:20:13,470
she would appreciate it now.

2322
02:20:13,560 --> 02:20:20,880
There we go. Lauren Lauren. Ooh,
shout out. Gregory Gregory was

2323
02:20:20,910 --> 02:20:21,750
que ski

2324
02:20:22,470 --> 02:20:28,770
was West puits. But I'd make a
scoop of wits rise, West west,

2325
02:20:29,190 --> 02:20:32,730
west Paskowitz. Paskowitz now we
go

2326
02:20:33,119 --> 02:20:37,859
5206 and lost wages in Nevada.
We have a birthday, Greg who

2327
02:20:37,859 --> 02:20:41,189
says he we can call him Warren
Taggart in Philadelphia,

2328
02:20:41,189 --> 02:20:47,129
Pennsylvania. 52 Daniel
stalemate. STEM it in Stockton,

2329
02:20:47,489 --> 02:20:54,539
New Jersey. 51 Kevin Payne 5069.
Chantilly Virginia. Brandon

2330
02:20:54,539 --> 02:20:58,469
Savoie, 50 bucks, these are all
$50 donors. Brendon Savoie, Mike

2331
02:20:58,469 --> 02:21:01,229
Westerfield parts unknown,
although I think they are

2332
02:21:01,229 --> 02:21:05,939
unknown. Walter grant the fourth
Moreno Valley, California,

2333
02:21:06,299 --> 02:21:10,889
Jennifer Langston in Huntsville,
Alabama. And as a Valentine's

2334
02:21:10,889 --> 02:21:15,299
gift for her husband, Jeremy.
Without him, I would not know

2335
02:21:15,299 --> 02:21:18,869
the awesomeness of this no
agenda show. Could you please

2336
02:21:18,869 --> 02:21:22,439
send some karma his way we'll do
that at the end. But thanks,

2337
02:21:23,099 --> 02:21:26,069
Robin Hawk, Anna, Illinois 50.

2338
02:21:26,130 --> 02:21:29,880
Also held also to honour my
awesome hubby Raleigh. Happy

2339
02:21:29,880 --> 02:21:31,080
Valentine's Day.

2340
02:21:31,289 --> 02:21:33,329
A well, you know, we could have
done a valid way we could do

2341
02:21:33,329 --> 02:21:35,429
that. Now. It's too late. We're
not going to do it. It's a it's

2342
02:21:35,429 --> 02:21:37,889
a show fell on Valentine's Day
we would have been more gimmicky

2343
02:21:37,889 --> 02:21:38,789
about it. Yeah. But

2344
02:21:38,820 --> 02:21:42,900
why would we participate in the
commercial bogusness of it?

2345
02:21:43,530 --> 02:21:51,870
There's a couple of reasons.
Jason Fortuna in Geneva,

2346
02:21:51,870 --> 02:21:57,090
Illinois. 50 and Tonio McMillan
Parts Unknown also 50 and

2347
02:21:57,090 --> 02:22:02,340
finally, the last 50 years is
when as I just moved up and lost

2348
02:22:02,340 --> 02:22:11,670
my place, Bart's hope. McMullen.
Bart, hook mode, HK moot, Holger

2349
02:22:11,670 --> 02:22:13,320
moot and zag

2350
02:22:14,190 --> 02:22:17,610
and survive and he says longtime
donor first time donor. After

2351
02:22:17,610 --> 02:22:20,310
the last newsletter, I realise
my excuse for not donating being

2352
02:22:20,310 --> 02:22:23,490
a student is totally ridiculous
considering the value you guys

2353
02:22:23,490 --> 02:22:27,690
provide. Wow. Sue Xactly student

2354
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Sue Covey, Alexander in Moscow,
Russia, John Sprague in San

2355
02:22:34,020 --> 02:22:38,460
Antonio, Texas. And finally last
but not least, got sold to us in

2356
02:22:38,460 --> 02:22:42,450
Minneapolis. Minnesota nuts.
Want to thank them and everyone

2357
02:22:42,450 --> 02:22:47,670
who's helped us produce the show
591 and reminds you to go to

2358
02:22:47,670 --> 02:22:53,610
divorce.org/na when you can
that's dot org slash n a.

2359
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:02,970
Get everything in here and do it
correctly. Barry Kruger

2360
02:23:02,970 --> 02:23:05,490
celebrates on Friday. We'll be
nodding him in a moment Sir

2361
02:23:05,490 --> 02:23:08,250
Frank says Happy Birthday to
Rohan turning 21 and wife

2362
02:23:08,250 --> 02:23:12,480
Michelle is she 21 as well.
Jordan Goodfellow turns 33.

2363
02:23:12,480 --> 02:23:16,530
Today Anthony calendula 23 on
the 13th that would be today as

2364
02:23:16,530 --> 02:23:19,530
well day Mondrian sir Kelly say
happy birthday to Sir Dallas and

2365
02:23:19,530 --> 02:23:23,670
a happy 18th birthday. That's
right. He can enjoy everything

2366
02:23:23,670 --> 02:23:26,640
now. Graham Scott says Happy
Birthday to his son joven Scott

2367
02:23:26,640 --> 02:23:30,840
and Gregory W turns 33 Tomorrow
happy birthday from all your

2368
02:23:30,840 --> 02:23:36,570
buddies here the best podcast in
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2369
02:23:36,570 --> 02:23:40,950
Frank Ajin stat becoming a
Baronet today and we have one

2370
02:23:41,250 --> 02:23:44,190
nice thing to do. That would be
Barry Krueger. Let me see. Do

2371
02:23:44,190 --> 02:23:49,200
you have any special requests?
You have a special new? I don't

2372
02:23:49,200 --> 02:23:54,570
think so. So if you can just
grab your blade. Yeah. Thank you

2373
02:23:54,750 --> 02:23:59,490
very crooked. Come on down my
friend. Yes. As you give the

2374
02:23:59,490 --> 02:24:02,970
proper accounting and we
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2375
02:24:02,970 --> 02:24:06,420
their own accounting. You have
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2376
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2377
02:24:09,510 --> 02:24:12,150
pronounce these. Barry Gruber
night of the no agenda

2378
02:24:12,150 --> 02:24:15,270
roundtable Sir, come on down for
you. We've got hotline brands

2379
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and Jager bombs. We've got Cuban
cigars and single malt scotch

2380
02:24:18,090 --> 02:24:20,670
we've got hookers and blow red
boys and Chardonnay if you're

2381
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swinging that way hot pants and
booze Rubenesque swelling women

2382
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and Rosae buck in the middle of
bong hits and bourbon or mutton

2383
02:24:26,550 --> 02:24:31,170
and Mead and go to no agenda
nation.com/rings and pick up

2384
02:24:31,170 --> 02:24:35,970
your rings your ceiling wax in
your official certificate of

2385
02:24:35,970 --> 02:24:38,370
being a night of the no agenda
roundtable. Welcome to the

2386
02:24:38,370 --> 02:24:39,990
family. Thank you very much

2387
02:24:40,260 --> 02:24:42,990
for joining make sure deliver
some karma for those who asked

2388
02:24:42,990 --> 02:24:43,410
for it that

2389
02:24:43,410 --> 02:24:47,640
have moved out here to karma for
everybody. You've got karma.

2390
02:24:48,540 --> 02:24:50,460
Thank you for supporting us.
We'll have another show on

2391
02:24:50,460 --> 02:24:57,630
Sunday. And there will be more
analysis and quite an analysis

2392
02:24:57,630 --> 02:25:00,870
we've got to do. My goodness
there is a It's just it's hidden

2393
02:25:00,870 --> 02:25:02,490
one after another these days.

2394
02:25:02,850 --> 02:25:05,040
Well, I'm telling you, I think
we got to start following the

2395
02:25:05,130 --> 02:25:06,300
hipsters. The

2396
02:25:06,360 --> 02:25:10,770
hipsters. Yeah. The hipsters
misters.

2397
02:25:10,800 --> 02:25:14,790
Is this a clip? They described
themselves as Muslim hipster

2398
02:25:14,790 --> 02:25:18,060
women. And then hipsters
movement has been making waves

2399
02:25:18,060 --> 02:25:21,900
online. Social networks are
abuzz with pictures of Muslim

2400
02:25:21,900 --> 02:25:26,010
women who coordinate their hijab
the Islamic veil with colourful

2401
02:25:26,070 --> 02:25:33,150
and trendy outfits. Hipsters
trend became something of a

2402
02:25:33,150 --> 02:25:36,780
talking point after this video
was released online entitled

2403
02:25:36,780 --> 02:25:39,840
somewhere in America. It
features young women across the

2404
02:25:39,840 --> 02:25:43,860
US having fun skateboarding in
high heels to the sounds of JC

2405
02:25:43,920 --> 02:25:47,580
clips intended to challenge the
stereotypes surrounding Islamic

2406
02:25:47,580 --> 02:25:50,790
bale often associated with
oppression and to show stylish,

2407
02:25:50,820 --> 02:25:54,510
edgy and fun loving women can
also practice the Muslim faith.

2408
02:25:55,050 --> 02:25:57,780
Webster Shara a common
philosophy and describe

2409
02:25:57,780 --> 02:26:01,020
themselves as at the forefront
of the latest music, fashion

2410
02:26:01,050 --> 02:26:04,890
art, whilst continuing to seek
inspiration from the sacred

2411
02:26:04,890 --> 02:26:05,790
texts of Islam.

2412
02:26:07,740 --> 02:26:09,540
Where do these ministers live?

2413
02:26:10,680 --> 02:26:13,980
I have no idea. I've never seen
one Muslim hipsters, the

2414
02:26:14,040 --> 02:26:17,160
hipsters, they all wear four
inch heels, five inch heels, all

2415
02:26:17,160 --> 02:26:19,650
these women, and let me just
check and the veil, you know,

2416
02:26:19,650 --> 02:26:23,490
and they're all looking cool. So
I have the clip, I think my

2417
02:26:23,490 --> 02:26:26,010
favourite Clip of the Day even
though it's not Clip of the Day

2418
02:26:26,010 --> 02:26:29,340
by any means. But you know, you
wonder why in the Central

2419
02:26:29,340 --> 02:26:32,460
African Republican these places,
why, you know, these, these,

2420
02:26:32,670 --> 02:26:38,730
these troops probably aren't
accomplishing a lot. The WTF

2421
02:26:38,730 --> 02:26:41,580
clip is what this one is, you
hear this clip, and then you

2422
02:26:41,580 --> 02:26:45,420
say, Oh, I get this. It's just
too ridiculous.

2423
02:26:45,960 --> 02:26:48,900
We'll French and African troops
do have a mandate from the

2424
02:26:48,900 --> 02:26:52,080
United Nations to use force if
there's direct threat to the

2425
02:26:52,080 --> 02:26:55,410
civilian population. So if, for
example, a Muslim is being

2426
02:26:55,410 --> 02:27:00,540
lynched by an anti black mob,
they could step in, when they've

2427
02:27:00,540 --> 02:27:04,560
been asked, why aren't you doing
that? They answer well, we can't

2428
02:27:04,620 --> 02:27:06,510
be seem to be taking sides.

2429
02:27:08,280 --> 02:27:10,470
Okay, because of what religion

2430
02:27:10,470 --> 02:27:16,290
you get to straight. You're a
cop. And you're in downtown

2431
02:27:16,290 --> 02:27:19,050
Oakland and guys are shooting at
each other. What are you going

2432
02:27:19,050 --> 02:27:21,360
to do? You're going to shoot at
one of these guys maybe to make

2433
02:27:21,360 --> 02:27:25,350
him stop. But you don't want to
take sides? Is this too much of

2434
02:27:25,350 --> 02:27:28,860
a commitment? Why don't take
sides one minute and the next

2435
02:27:28,860 --> 02:27:33,930
minute somebody else is too much
work? Don't take sides.

2436
02:27:33,990 --> 02:27:36,510
We really don't want doing
there. We really don't

2437
02:27:36,510 --> 02:27:38,070
understand how this works at
all.

2438
02:27:39,210 --> 02:27:42,990
What are they doing? They're
they're just standing around. I

2439
02:27:42,990 --> 02:27:43,920
believe we all know

2440
02:27:43,950 --> 02:27:51,930
there was a warning. Let me see.
Embassy warning in Kampala. So

2441
02:27:51,930 --> 02:28:00,210
that's Uganda. They're expecting
a terrorist. See, threat

2442
02:28:00,210 --> 02:28:02,790
information indicates a group of
attackers possibly in place

2443
02:28:02,790 --> 02:28:06,390
ready to strike targets inside
Kampala in February or March.

2444
02:28:08,700 --> 02:28:13,200
That's a coincidence. Yeah. Why
our economic hitman happens to

2445
02:28:13,200 --> 02:28:20,040
be headed to Uganda for some
reason Damn. Yeah, it's

2446
02:28:22,110 --> 02:28:24,990
we do not have you know, we're
really missing we just are

2447
02:28:24,990 --> 02:28:28,860
missing more people who
understand what is really

2448
02:28:28,860 --> 02:28:31,740
happening in Africa. And I don't
even know if people who are in

2449
02:28:31,740 --> 02:28:35,010
Africa and work for the State
Department. I don't even know if

2450
02:28:35,010 --> 02:28:40,320
they understand. This is a very
no whole thing is messed up.

2451
02:28:43,470 --> 02:28:50,220
Yes, I would say that's true. I
have a question for you. Okay,

2452
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:55,560
your play this clip, the Syria
barrel bomb clip, and then I'm

2453
02:28:55,560 --> 02:28:56,670
going to ask you something.

2454
02:28:57,930 --> 02:29:01,680
All right, here we go. Now new
video from Syria appears to show

2455
02:29:01,680 --> 02:29:04,740
the moment a barrel bomb has
fallen in the northern city of

2456
02:29:04,770 --> 02:29:08,190
Aleppo hacktivist said the
images uploaded online or of the

2457
02:29:08,190 --> 02:29:11,280
bomb landing just after two
other bombs exploded nearby

2458
02:29:11,550 --> 02:29:14,430
columns of fixed smoke seen that
rising in the sky where the

2459
02:29:14,430 --> 02:29:17,580
bombs were dropped before local
people carry the injured to

2460
02:29:17,580 --> 02:29:18,960
safety. Okay

2461
02:29:21,180 --> 02:29:24,240
all right. I've noticed I didn't
pay full attention to this when

2462
02:29:24,240 --> 02:29:28,170
it first cropped up so I missed
it. But what is a barrel bomb?

2463
02:29:28,170 --> 02:29:31,410
When did this barrel bomb meme
show up? And what's got to do

2464
02:29:31,410 --> 02:29:34,590
with anything? I mean? Are they
throwing these bombs? Are they

2465
02:29:34,590 --> 02:29:37,440
using giant sling shots? are
they dropping him from planes?

2466
02:29:37,530 --> 02:29:38,910
What are they?

2467
02:29:39,150 --> 02:29:43,140
I don't know exactly. I do know
that three of them exploded on

2468
02:29:43,170 --> 02:29:47,340
was it the day of the opening
ceremonies I think of the

2469
02:29:47,340 --> 02:29:50,610
Olympics. I think he's one that
when they were when they first

2470
02:29:50,610 --> 02:29:53,100
came into the lexicon What do
you have on barrel bomb? Do you

2471
02:29:53,100 --> 02:29:55,590
have any research on it? Because
I know I

2472
02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:57,900
was asked that's what's asked
says right there ask Adam

2473
02:29:57,900 --> 02:30:01,230
because I figure you'd know I
Don't know. All I know is that

2474
02:30:01,260 --> 02:30:04,320
all of a sudden barrel brown
barrel bowl is a barrel bomb is

2475
02:30:04,320 --> 02:30:10,080
that worse than like a one tonne
bomb dropped from a plain sight

2476
02:30:10,080 --> 02:30:10,770
barrel.

2477
02:30:13,139 --> 02:30:16,379
Interesting barrel bomb, there
must be something to it. There

2478
02:30:16,379 --> 02:30:18,779
must be a reason for it that
weren't that we're not figuring

2479
02:30:18,779 --> 02:30:22,139
this out. Are Syrian barrel
bombs really worse than

2480
02:30:22,139 --> 02:30:26,159
weaponry? There you go Newsweek
asked the same question. And

2481
02:30:26,159 --> 02:30:30,179
let's see what news we came up
with. It's oil drums filled with

2482
02:30:30,179 --> 02:30:39,239
explosives dropped from
helicopters. Really? Huh. I

2483
02:30:39,239 --> 02:30:41,609
think that there's so there's
there's a couple things going

2484
02:30:41,609 --> 02:30:47,069
on, which are to be noted.
Particularly it comes to Aleppo

2485
02:30:47,069 --> 02:30:50,849
and Homs. Now, both of these
places which are to north of

2486
02:30:50,849 --> 02:30:57,299
Damascus, and West, both of
these places are major

2487
02:30:57,539 --> 02:31:04,859
intersections for the pipelines.
The homes Tatuus oil pipeline

2488
02:31:04,889 --> 02:31:12,089
was blown up, February 3. And
then right after that, they

2489
02:31:12,089 --> 02:31:15,989
start evacuating people from
homes, which is not a lot of

2490
02:31:15,989 --> 02:31:20,999
people to 1000 people or
whatever. I feel there's there's

2491
02:31:20,999 --> 02:31:26,129
something about the strategic
location of this particular when

2492
02:31:26,129 --> 02:31:32,279
we note that Turkey has now
opened negotiations for the to

2493
02:31:32,279 --> 02:31:39,719
take, let's see Iran natural gas
via Iran's natural gas via Iraq.

2494
02:31:42,269 --> 02:31:45,149
It would seem like they are
trying to take away some of the

2495
02:31:45,149 --> 02:31:47,969
business that was supposed to go
through that those actual

2496
02:31:47,969 --> 02:31:54,689
pipelines in Homs and Aleppo.
None of this just it's not just

2497
02:31:54,689 --> 02:31:56,789
a bunch of people hurl and
barrel bombs, if anything, that

2498
02:31:56,789 --> 02:31:59,069
barrel bomb was probably to
distract from what's really

2499
02:31:59,069 --> 02:32:03,209
happening. does another thing to
get NGOs all pissed off about

2500
02:32:03,209 --> 02:32:05,759
oh, they're throwing barrel
bombs.

2501
02:32:08,730 --> 02:32:11,640
It's, it's I don't know, I just
found it to be completely

2502
02:32:11,640 --> 02:32:12,270
baffling.

2503
02:32:12,630 --> 02:32:13,500
No, I agree with you.

2504
02:32:14,850 --> 02:32:18,660
So I ran into this group, or
this was a report on one of the

2505
02:32:18,690 --> 02:32:23,370
again foreign source about these
these kind of weird African

2506
02:32:23,370 --> 02:32:28,770
hipsters called Sacco that are
all addressing clownish in some

2507
02:32:29,100 --> 02:32:32,970
native form and, and this report
I just thought was kind of I

2508
02:32:32,970 --> 02:32:35,340
don't know what there's another
weird distraction, some another

2509
02:32:35,340 --> 02:32:39,150
trend in Africa, Africa is going
to be by the way, a big part of

2510
02:32:39,150 --> 02:32:40,950
our news coverage in the next
year,

2511
02:32:40,980 --> 02:32:41,970
no doubt about it.

2512
02:32:42,750 --> 02:32:46,620
Now they are called last SAP
which stands for the Society for

2513
02:32:46,620 --> 02:32:49,680
party goers an elegant people
sounds fun, doesn't it? Well, in

2514
02:32:49,680 --> 02:32:52,620
fact, it is a social movement
centred in the Democratic

2515
02:32:52,620 --> 02:32:56,520
Republic of Congo, which was
created 30 years ago and now has

2516
02:32:56,520 --> 02:33:00,090
some 50 clubs despite their
modest means. They spend

2517
02:33:00,090 --> 02:33:03,900
hundreds on shoes and clothes,
and they're now turning even

2518
02:33:03,900 --> 02:33:07,380
more heads than usual, taking
pride of place in a popular

2519
02:33:07,410 --> 02:33:08,340
television ad.

2520
02:33:13,830 --> 02:33:17,070
These are the famous supper or
the Society of elegant people.

2521
02:33:17,250 --> 02:33:20,730
Initially under authoritarian
ruler Mabou. wearing bright

2522
02:33:20,730 --> 02:33:24,000
clothes was a gesture of
defiance that he has later the

2523
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:25,530
movement is no longer political.

2524
02:33:27,570 --> 02:33:30,330
You have four rules you don't
become a sapper if you were born

2525
02:33:30,330 --> 02:33:33,270
one you will honour soft like
your father and mother. He will

2526
02:33:33,270 --> 02:33:36,360
never betray, stop whatever the
situation may be, and you will

2527
02:33:36,360 --> 02:33:40,620
die as a sufferer. Like starve
us. First rule of fight club is

2528
02:33:40,890 --> 02:33:47,010
you do not talk about fight.
Club is you do not talk about

2529
02:33:47,010 --> 02:33:47,610
fight club.

2530
02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:49,260
Have you been editing again,
John?

2531
02:33:50,940 --> 02:33:52,080
To a sound is like

2532
02:33:54,720 --> 02:33:56,460
less sounded like Fight Club.
Yeah.

2533
02:33:59,970 --> 02:34:01,260
Another thing we have to

2534
02:34:01,890 --> 02:34:04,920
I feel like distraction. Yeah,
I'm going to be spending a lot

2535
02:34:04,920 --> 02:34:08,880
of time today and tomorrow.
Really going as deep. We have a

2536
02:34:08,880 --> 02:34:11,880
couple of people you obviously
we have our economic hitman in

2537
02:34:11,880 --> 02:34:17,130
Africa. I have as one person
who's involved with the legal

2538
02:34:17,130 --> 02:34:19,620
profession in Kenya. We have

2539
02:34:19,620 --> 02:34:23,790
one of our nights in Accra.
Right? He never checks in

2540
02:34:23,790 --> 02:34:25,170
anymore. Well,

2541
02:34:27,540 --> 02:34:31,530
I got an interesting note from
producer Patrick about the

2542
02:34:31,530 --> 02:34:38,520
Panama Canal. And a Nicaragua as
well as Costa Rica, which this

2543
02:34:38,520 --> 02:34:41,040
was very interesting. We, of
course, keep our eye on the

2544
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:46,230
Chinese and what they're doing.
They are without doubt, a source

2545
02:34:46,230 --> 02:34:51,030
of much chagrin for the
imperialist leaders of the

2546
02:34:51,030 --> 02:34:54,780
United States and France and the
United Kingdom. We need to kick

2547
02:34:54,780 --> 02:34:58,500
the Chinese out of Africa and
take over and just get

2548
02:34:58,500 --> 02:35:03,930
everything we can Patrick says
first time I heard about the

2549
02:35:03,960 --> 02:35:08,190
Nicaraguan canal was a while I
was living in Costa Rica which

2550
02:35:08,190 --> 02:35:13,440
borders on Nicaragua to the
south. And apparently, Daniel

2551
02:35:13,440 --> 02:35:17,490
Ortega is he's he's back. He
wasn't good. Yeah, he

2552
02:35:17,490 --> 02:35:19,260
was President always been
entertaining.

2553
02:35:19,619 --> 02:35:22,919
So he's been President in the
80s. Of course. This was the

2554
02:35:22,919 --> 02:35:27,239
whole Iran Contra scandal. He
was a part of that. But he was

2555
02:35:27,239 --> 02:35:31,259
recently elected president again
in oh six and reelected in 11.

2556
02:35:31,259 --> 02:35:34,409
seems to be pretty comfortable
in his position. But here's

2557
02:35:34,409 --> 02:35:36,749
what's interesting. Nicaragua
has threatened to take Costa

2558
02:35:36,749 --> 02:35:40,859
Rica to international court to
dispute Costa Rica's claim to

2559
02:35:41,189 --> 02:35:44,579
Guana Casa de which is a
province that shares the border.

2560
02:35:45,749 --> 02:35:51,059
And what's interesting about all
this is that the Chinese are in

2561
02:35:51,059 --> 02:35:55,799
Costa Rica. They've built a
national stadium, they've built

2562
02:35:55,799 --> 02:35:59,579
some roads donated a bunch of
police vehicles, which our

2563
02:35:59,579 --> 02:36:01,439
producer says is hilarious
because they actually have a

2564
02:36:01,439 --> 02:36:03,899
Chinese flag on them. And
they're driving around in Costa

2565
02:36:03,899 --> 02:36:10,709
Rica with a Chinese flag on the
police cars. A few years back in

2566
02:36:10,709 --> 02:36:13,109
the grandiose scheme by Ortega,
the canal started get some

2567
02:36:13,109 --> 02:36:15,599
backing, there was talk of
Japanese backers for a while and

2568
02:36:15,599 --> 02:36:19,199
out of nowhere, sizeable backing
from the Chinese. And what he's

2569
02:36:19,199 --> 02:36:22,829
saying is, it's very interesting
to see that we have US companies

2570
02:36:22,829 --> 02:36:25,799
in Costa Rica, which I always
thought was very us friendly.

2571
02:36:27,029 --> 02:36:32,819
Intel, HP, Microsoft, but the
Chinese are taking over. And I

2572
02:36:32,819 --> 02:36:35,159
think when we don't we we've
taken our eye off the ball

2573
02:36:35,159 --> 02:36:39,809
there. And you do not want the
Chinese to have control of Costa

2574
02:36:39,809 --> 02:36:42,989
Rica and Nicaragua and building
their canal there. I think this

2575
02:36:42,989 --> 02:36:43,799
is a mistake.

2576
02:36:45,780 --> 02:36:47,820
Well, I don't think it's a
mistake as much as is an

2577
02:36:47,820 --> 02:36:48,990
oversight oversight.

2578
02:36:48,990 --> 02:36:49,890
Yes, oversight.

2579
02:36:51,300 --> 02:36:53,550
I don't think they mean to be
doing that. They're just You're

2580
02:36:53,550 --> 02:36:57,720
right. They're distracted in one
way. Hey, look at this. And then

2581
02:36:58,080 --> 02:36:58,920
why are you why are they

2582
02:36:58,949 --> 02:37:03,029
what? They're what? I don't see
nothing.

2583
02:37:04,980 --> 02:37:10,770
Ah, well, that is looking into.
Now who does this come from?

2584
02:37:11,910 --> 02:37:16,590
Patrick, he doesn't want it. He
lives there. Okay, he wants to

2585
02:37:16,590 --> 02:37:17,700
remain a little anonymous. We

2586
02:37:17,700 --> 02:37:18,750
need more reports.

2587
02:37:18,990 --> 02:37:21,660
Yeah, I'm sure he'll be sending
it just to the Chinese. It's

2588
02:37:21,660 --> 02:37:22,860
just okay.

2589
02:37:24,690 --> 02:37:26,580
Yeah, well, they'd love it.
There would be a good little

2590
02:37:26,580 --> 02:37:29,610
landing spot for them to be
perfect. I mean, they got

2591
02:37:29,640 --> 02:37:32,310
California targeted, but they're
not building roads here.

2592
02:37:32,880 --> 02:37:33,960
Although that would be useful

2593
02:37:33,990 --> 02:37:36,900
wouldn't. Hey, you know, what,
if only they would get would

2594
02:37:36,900 --> 02:37:37,890
make you happy?

2595
02:37:38,580 --> 02:37:41,940
Yeah. One of my little roads
over here is now a bunch of

2596
02:37:41,940 --> 02:37:45,840
potholes. It's not even a road
site is jarring to drive down

2597
02:37:45,840 --> 02:37:46,740
this little street.

2598
02:37:48,810 --> 02:37:50,670
Looking at today, bang, bang,

2599
02:37:50,700 --> 02:37:52,050
do I need new struts?

2600
02:37:53,070 --> 02:37:56,820
Looking at the Turkish
situation. Photographer Tula

2601
02:37:56,820 --> 02:38:00,510
Gulin has been challenged by the
prime minister of Turkey says

2602
02:38:00,510 --> 02:38:03,780
hey, if you're such a such a
brave guy, why don't you come

2603
02:38:03,780 --> 02:38:06,120
home with foreign political
party and run against me like a

2604
02:38:06,120 --> 02:38:09,660
man? But that's not gonna
happen. That's not gonna happen.

2605
02:38:09,660 --> 02:38:13,380
No, that's crazy talk. A writer

2606
02:38:14,160 --> 02:38:17,280
of the Hizmet Movement, which is
the Gulen Movement, that's

2607
02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:21,720
another word for it. His met,
has come out and said, Yeah,

2608
02:38:22,110 --> 02:38:25,080
we're pretty much all part of an
anti government plot to

2609
02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:30,960
overthrow overthrow the current
government. This guy's name is

2610
02:38:31,140 --> 02:38:35,610
one of these. This is part of
the problem. What is his name?

2611
02:38:36,240 --> 02:38:42,990
It's yen, my hoop Ian. And he's
been writing for some Gulenist

2612
02:38:43,020 --> 02:38:46,500
publications. They have a lot of
them. They just opened a Dutch

2613
02:38:46,500 --> 02:38:52,230
language magazine in the
Netherlands and Belgium also run

2614
02:38:52,230 --> 02:38:59,700
by by the Gulenist. So, you
know, that's, I don't know if

2615
02:38:59,700 --> 02:39:02,100
we'll be hearing from this guy
much longer. But he said, Hey,

2616
02:39:02,100 --> 02:39:06,360
yeah, well, this is really what
we've been doing. And of course,

2617
02:39:06,360 --> 02:39:11,370
at the same time, we have
something that we'd love to talk

2618
02:39:11,370 --> 02:39:15,810
about here. And we can just
pretty much wait for the NGOs to

2619
02:39:15,810 --> 02:39:19,530
show up and start talking about
how draconian it all is. In

2620
02:39:19,530 --> 02:39:20,070
Turkey

2621
02:39:20,070 --> 02:39:24,720
riot police used tear gas and
water cannon to try and disperse

2622
02:39:24,750 --> 02:39:29,070
protests in Istanbul. The crowds
were demonstrating against plans

2623
02:39:29,070 --> 02:39:32,460
for new legislation, which would
give the government even more

2624
02:39:32,460 --> 02:39:34,560
control over the use of the
internet.

2625
02:39:34,950 --> 02:39:37,260
Now, I thought this was
interesting. I have not been

2626
02:39:37,260 --> 02:39:41,550
able to find a copy of anything
of what the actual law is. But I

2627
02:39:41,550 --> 02:39:47,400
liked the way the prime minister
of Turkey explains it. This by

2628
02:39:47,400 --> 02:39:51,180
the way is it's just fireworks
this protest. There's no There's

2629
02:39:51,180 --> 02:39:54,120
no Molotov cocktails or
anything. It literally they're

2630
02:39:54,120 --> 02:39:59,970
just throwing bottle rockets and
you know, it looks very simple.

2631
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:03,540
vicious smoke from fireworks
that tear gas fills the air as

2632
02:40:03,540 --> 02:40:06,810
demonstrators and riot police
battle it out on the streets of

2633
02:40:06,810 --> 02:40:10,650
Istanbul, water cannon are
brought in to try to disperse

2634
02:40:10,650 --> 02:40:14,010
the crowd. But the protesters
are not going anywhere. They're

2635
02:40:14,040 --> 02:40:17,430
curious about a new internet law
that's been approved by

2636
02:40:17,430 --> 02:40:21,570
parliament. If it's ratified by
the President, internet sites

2637
02:40:21,570 --> 02:40:25,650
can be blocked within hours
without a court order that also

2638
02:40:25,650 --> 02:40:29,550
force internet providers to keep
the browsing histories of users

2639
02:40:29,580 --> 02:40:33,660
for up to two years and make it
available to the authorities.

2640
02:40:33,690 --> 02:40:36,480
Now when I heard this well, when
you hear what they're doing,

2641
02:40:36,480 --> 02:40:41,190
what is the first thing that
comes to mind? What sounds like

2642
02:40:41,190 --> 02:40:46,440
us? Yeah. Oh, I thought it was
yeah, no, this. This is this is

2643
02:40:46,440 --> 02:40:50,400
Turkey like, oh, this horrible
draconian measures like that's

2644
02:40:50,400 --> 02:40:52,410
pretty much the way it works
here.

2645
02:40:52,530 --> 02:40:55,740
The Turkish Prime Minister
insists that these regulations

2646
02:40:55,800 --> 02:40:59,190
are the same as the US and
several European countries that

2647
02:40:59,190 --> 02:41:00,180
already have

2648
02:41:00,690 --> 02:41:04,770
exactly. Keeping your browsing
history where we can shut down a

2649
02:41:04,770 --> 02:41:06,150
website in seconds.

2650
02:41:08,820 --> 02:41:12,570
Well, it's the way you if you do
it with drunk drama makes it

2651
02:41:12,570 --> 02:41:13,590
sound worse. Yeah,

2652
02:41:13,680 --> 02:41:15,960
go ahead with fire with
fireworks. That's what you got

2653
02:41:15,960 --> 02:41:21,060
to do. And the only other thing
I have is we had to and this is

2654
02:41:21,060 --> 02:41:25,410
all this very underreported, at
least I didn't get a lot didn't

2655
02:41:25,410 --> 02:41:30,030
find a lot on it. About the
Osama bin Laden pictures

2656
02:41:30,030 --> 02:41:35,550
apparently being destroyed by
the Pentagon. What was

2657
02:41:35,580 --> 02:41:38,100
interesting about this report,
which I believe is brought off

2658
02:41:38,100 --> 02:41:43,980
on the CN ns. It's the report.
Of course, I have no video of

2659
02:41:43,980 --> 02:41:47,550
everything. But they have these
great animated pieces, which

2660
02:41:47,550 --> 02:41:51,090
they still had on file of how
this attack went down. And then

2661
02:41:51,090 --> 02:41:56,550
they they cut to a Zero Dark 30.
And meanwhile, and if you really

2662
02:41:56,550 --> 02:42:02,760
just listened to the report.
It's you get you hear what

2663
02:42:02,760 --> 02:42:05,850
they're trying to programme you
with. But it really the

2664
02:42:05,850 --> 02:42:08,250
programming doesn't work unless
you're watching the video where

2665
02:42:08,250 --> 02:42:11,640
you're seeing this scene, which
may not even have happened

2666
02:42:11,640 --> 02:42:15,450
because all we have is a movie,
literally a Hollywood version.

2667
02:42:15,690 --> 02:42:19,200
And we have an animated version,
which shows a little stick guys

2668
02:42:19,200 --> 02:42:21,750
getting out of a helicopter and
walking around. We really don't

2669
02:42:21,750 --> 02:42:24,960
know that any of this happened
at all. And the thing that

2670
02:42:25,200 --> 02:42:31,050
annoys me to no end is they talk
about you BL and not OBL I still

2671
02:42:31,050 --> 02:42:35,220
think that there's two different
guys or something. Oussama

2672
02:42:35,460 --> 02:42:37,470
code for something you don't
know about. And we

2673
02:42:37,470 --> 02:42:42,930
don't know. But But the idea
here is to paper over the

2674
02:42:42,930 --> 02:42:47,580
destruction of evidence. And
just you know, do you know what

2675
02:42:47,580 --> 02:42:49,860
we don't need to see that
anyway, because it could just

2676
02:42:49,860 --> 02:42:52,530
incite violence. And it's so
well produced cover

2677
02:42:52,530 --> 02:42:54,930
up. Brian Todd has been
investigating this part of the

2678
02:42:54,930 --> 02:42:57,060
story. What are you finding out
this is the cover up

2679
02:42:57,060 --> 02:42:58,980
is actually this news report.
This

2680
02:42:58,980 --> 02:43:02,070
information just getting out two
and a half years after the bin

2681
02:43:02,070 --> 02:43:05,550
Laden raid a Freedom of
Information Act request, finally

2682
02:43:05,550 --> 02:43:08,640
bring it to light this sensitive
email from the commander of the

2683
02:43:08,640 --> 02:43:12,480
seal raid saying to subordinates
if you've got the photos, get

2684
02:43:12,480 --> 02:43:15,720
rid of them, gentlemen, all
photos should have been turned

2685
02:43:15,720 --> 02:43:19,020
over to the CIA. If you still
have them, destroy them

2686
02:43:19,020 --> 02:43:23,010
immediately or get them to the
blank, whoever that was still

2687
02:43:23,010 --> 02:43:26,820
classified. If these records
were indeed destroyed, there may

2688
02:43:26,820 --> 02:43:30,000
have been crimes committed. Tom
Fitton of Judicial Watch

2689
02:43:30,000 --> 02:43:33,210
believes it shows a cover up the
possible suppression of key

2690
02:43:33,210 --> 02:43:36,630
documents from maybe the most
famous raid in military history.

2691
02:43:36,660 --> 02:43:39,420
There's laws that prohibit the
mutilation and destruction of

2692
02:43:39,420 --> 02:43:42,210
government records. It shows
contempt for the law, and it

2693
02:43:42,210 --> 02:43:44,850
shows contempt for the people's
right to know the Pentagon

2694
02:43:44,850 --> 02:43:47,850
wouldn't comment on those
assertions or the McRaven email.

2695
02:43:47,940 --> 02:43:51,090
A spokesman for Admiral McRaven
wouldn't comment, nor would the

2696
02:43:51,090 --> 02:43:54,420
CIA or the White House. But in
the days after the bin Laden

2697
02:43:54,420 --> 02:43:58,530
raid, President Obama told CBS
60 minutes why he believed the

2698
02:43:58,530 --> 02:44:01,650
photos of a deceased Bin Laden
should not be made public.

2699
02:44:01,680 --> 02:44:04,680
This is very good. By the way,
this piece and us again, you're

2700
02:44:04,680 --> 02:44:10,680
seeing the visuals of Hollywood
fabrication and then boom back

2701
02:44:10,680 --> 02:44:11,460
to this it is

2702
02:44:11,460 --> 02:44:17,250
important for us to make sure
that very graphic photos of

2703
02:44:17,250 --> 02:44:23,490
somebody who was shot in the
head are not floating around as

2704
02:44:24,090 --> 02:44:26,310
an incitement to additional
violence.

2705
02:44:26,340 --> 02:44:27,720
It's not I you

2706
02:44:27,720 --> 02:44:34,950
know, I really love how we can
have photographs of a GI pissing

2707
02:44:34,950 --> 02:44:36,030
on corpses.

2708
02:44:37,410 --> 02:44:39,870
Well, there's no exciting
incitement there.

2709
02:44:39,900 --> 02:44:43,140
I didn't and I didn't see
anything anything really in any

2710
02:44:43,140 --> 02:44:46,590
increased violence anywhere. But
it's just brings you back to the

2711
02:44:46,590 --> 02:44:49,440
bull crap that we've been fed
and I'm glad that brought

2712
02:44:49,440 --> 02:44:54,060
brought this back in his report.
That it is makes no sense

2713
02:44:54,060 --> 02:44:57,060
whatsoever that we're not
allowed to see this proof but

2714
02:44:57,090 --> 02:44:58,890
it's not going to be papered
over clear

2715
02:44:58,890 --> 02:45:03,750
whether any photos of In London
were actually destroyed. Put any

2716
02:45:03,750 --> 02:45:07,110
of the seals depicted in the
movie Zero Dark 30 have taken

2717
02:45:07,140 --> 02:45:10,860
personal photos. CNN military
analyst General James spider

2718
02:45:10,860 --> 02:45:14,070
marks says it's likely they were
ordered not to by their

2719
02:45:14,070 --> 02:45:16,170
commander are using it. It
wouldn't be surprising if they

2720
02:45:16,170 --> 02:45:16,740
shut them down.

2721
02:45:16,770 --> 02:45:18,270
We don't know. They said, Okay,

2722
02:45:18,390 --> 02:45:20,940
I want to make sure you don't
have something that's hidden

2723
02:45:20,940 --> 02:45:21,840
away someplace.

2724
02:45:22,170 --> 02:45:26,760
Why? Hold on a second is the
style. Yeah. Why would Why would

2725
02:45:26,760 --> 02:45:29,310
that happen? Why would there be
why?

2726
02:45:30,090 --> 02:45:33,300
What would be the point of that
of having something hidden away?

2727
02:45:33,960 --> 02:45:37,470
No. What would be the point of
command order not to take

2728
02:45:37,470 --> 02:45:38,100
photos?

2729
02:45:38,970 --> 02:45:42,570
Because it's not true? Yeah,
that's

2730
02:45:42,570 --> 02:45:45,480
the point is is bullcrap. Yeah.
They wouldn't say that these

2731
02:45:45,480 --> 02:45:47,370
guys are on their own when that
once they're in there, and

2732
02:45:47,370 --> 02:45:50,190
there's no commander barking
orders. They're just say do the

2733
02:45:50,190 --> 02:45:53,010
whole thing was scripted, go
come in there and grab the guy.

2734
02:45:53,370 --> 02:45:56,190
A guy below. I'm sure we're
taking photos a guy.

2735
02:45:57,780 --> 02:46:00,660
These guys have GoPros they got
everything.

2736
02:46:01,530 --> 02:46:04,410
Now the yeah, there's a movie
the whole thing? I'm sure. Well,

2737
02:46:04,410 --> 02:46:04,620
yeah,

2738
02:46:04,650 --> 02:46:06,780
the movie is called Zero Dark
30. And that's what you're

2739
02:46:06,780 --> 02:46:10,470
supposed to believe you say?
This is how it works.

2740
02:46:10,860 --> 02:46:13,290
And they said, Okay, I want to
make sure you don't have

2741
02:46:13,290 --> 02:46:15,540
something that's hidden away
someplace.

2742
02:46:16,530 --> 02:46:19,410
But Mark says the seals would
have designated some member of

2743
02:46:19,410 --> 02:46:22,740
that team to take official
photos and video for posterity

2744
02:46:22,740 --> 02:46:25,620
and training purposes. He
believes that if Admiral McRaven

2745
02:46:25,650 --> 02:46:28,380
ordered photos destroyed, he was
trying to protect operational

2746
02:46:28,380 --> 02:46:31,320
secrets, sources and methods and
trying to protect American

2747
02:46:31,320 --> 02:46:33,180
troops in dangerous areas. Well,

2748
02:46:33,240 --> 02:46:36,120
I love the sources and methods.
Okay, first, we crashed the

2749
02:46:36,120 --> 02:46:42,900
helicopter. This is our our
highly secretive stealth

2750
02:46:42,900 --> 02:46:45,810
helicopter, which looks like it
couldn't fly in a million years

2751
02:46:45,810 --> 02:46:50,040
with all that metal hanging off
of it. Yeah, we crashed that.

2752
02:46:50,040 --> 02:46:53,400
And then we'd go in and we'd go
get him. He's watching the TV

2753
02:46:53,400 --> 02:46:57,510
satellite. And we shoot him in
the head and we don't take a

2754
02:46:57,510 --> 02:46:59,730
picture and then we dump him in
the ocean real quick about

2755
02:46:59,730 --> 02:47:00,210
photos

2756
02:47:00,210 --> 02:47:03,720
of bin Laden buried at sea.
could those be made public?

2757
02:47:03,720 --> 02:47:06,330
Well, Judicial Watch says that
it has asked for that as maybe

2758
02:47:06,330 --> 02:47:08,670
some sort of compromise. If
you're not going to release the

2759
02:47:08,670 --> 02:47:11,220
photos of bin Laden himself, at
least give us those

2760
02:47:11,400 --> 02:47:14,970
thoughts be on the lookout for a
sheet being dumped into the

2761
02:47:14,970 --> 02:47:15,750
ocean photo,

2762
02:47:15,780 --> 02:47:19,110
the Obama administration that
has steadfastly said it is not

2763
02:47:19,110 --> 02:47:21,360
going to release those it is
very concerned about incitement

2764
02:47:21,360 --> 02:47:21,840
to violence.

2765
02:47:21,870 --> 02:47:24,600
Now now listen to both wrap it
all up. afraid it

2766
02:47:24,600 --> 02:47:27,270
would incite a new generation of
terrorists, right would be

2767
02:47:27,270 --> 02:47:29,250
outraged by seeing those
pictures. Alright. Thanks very

2768
02:47:29,250 --> 02:47:30,600
much, Brian, for that.

2769
02:47:30,810 --> 02:47:33,600
That's right, it would incite a
whole new generation of

2770
02:47:33,600 --> 02:47:37,320
terrorists if that were to come
out. So let's just not do that

2771
02:47:37,320 --> 02:47:37,710
wasn't

2772
02:47:37,740 --> 02:47:41,820
one of our original theses on
this at the beginning when it

2773
02:47:41,820 --> 02:47:46,050
happened. Oh, actually, even
before it happened, because

2774
02:47:46,050 --> 02:47:49,830
there's a lot of reports of
already being dead. Yeah. Years

2775
02:47:49,830 --> 02:47:53,340
before who was this was not an
assassin. Yeah, it was not an

2776
02:47:53,340 --> 02:47:57,360
assassination because that SEAL
team was was an extraction team.

2777
02:47:57,360 --> 02:48:01,260
It wasn't a assassination team.
We isolated that piece of

2778
02:48:01,260 --> 02:48:05,310
information, right. And this was
just an extraction of an of an

2779
02:48:05,310 --> 02:48:08,760
asset because we've always
thought as possible. This guy

2780
02:48:08,760 --> 02:48:13,230
was a CIA plant in the whole
operation that was you know, he

2781
02:48:13,230 --> 02:48:16,980
was ended up leading, and this
was just getting him out of

2782
02:48:16,980 --> 02:48:20,580
there. And maybe and the guy has
shaved, you know, to give him a

2783
02:48:20,580 --> 02:48:23,970
shave and a haircut and a little
note, new nose job and boom,

2784
02:48:23,970 --> 02:48:29,580
he's a professor someplace at
Georgetown as we speak. We

2785
02:48:29,580 --> 02:48:31,620
discuss that as a possibility.
Well, the

2786
02:48:31,620 --> 02:48:34,830
thing that interests me is why
has no one put in a Freedom of

2787
02:48:34,830 --> 02:48:40,800
Information request for the live
helmet cam video that everybody

2788
02:48:40,800 --> 02:48:44,070
was watching in the situational
rallies, everyone was in

2789
02:48:44,070 --> 02:48:46,800
the situation 1000 of these
requests

2790
02:48:46,800 --> 02:48:48,390
I had never heard of one

2791
02:48:49,530 --> 02:48:54,810
you know I'm there I can
guarantee there's been there's a

2792
02:48:54,810 --> 02:48:57,660
whole bunch of guys that do
nothing but just crank out these

2793
02:48:57,660 --> 02:49:01,110
freedom of information requests.
They get the same form letter

2794
02:49:01,110 --> 02:49:03,300
back we can't do this because of
one thing or another. You never

2795
02:49:03,300 --> 02:49:07,350
get the information doesn't mean
it works. Some guys have waited

2796
02:49:07,350 --> 02:49:11,850
a decade to get some stuff the
old crap from the 60s because

2797
02:49:11,850 --> 02:49:16,680
it's a bogus system. Yeah,
you're not gonna get the helmet

2798
02:49:16,680 --> 02:49:21,210
cam. guy would have it'd be
golden Bin Laden turning around

2799
02:49:21,210 --> 02:49:25,260
saying how long what takes you
guys so long? Hey,

2800
02:49:25,290 --> 02:49:30,030
did you bring my m&ms? I love
them. I love them with the

2801
02:49:30,030 --> 02:49:31,230
peanut said the best.

2802
02:49:32,760 --> 02:49:33,660
Right? You want

2803
02:49:33,660 --> 02:49:36,750
us to bring this device nods
bushes, it says dialysis

2804
02:49:36,750 --> 02:49:45,870
machine. All right, the dialysis
machine. Then, does a little

2805
02:49:45,900 --> 02:49:47,880
little tidbit that got lost in
the shuffle.

2806
02:49:47,910 --> 02:49:53,160
Oh yeah. No, no, no, this is why
even bother if people ask us all

2807
02:49:53,160 --> 02:49:57,900
the time. So you should revisit
that and you know, yeah, he was

2808
02:49:57,900 --> 02:50:04,350
on dialysis in what 2000 Nine I
think, no, wait, no way earlier

2809
02:50:04,350 --> 02:50:06,600
than that. I'm I'm crazy. No,
no. Like

2810
02:50:08,550 --> 02:50:09,840
it was right after 911

2811
02:50:10,259 --> 02:50:12,479
I thought it was even before 911
with no, I

2812
02:50:12,480 --> 02:50:16,050
think maybe maybe it could be.
I'm a little fuzzy

2813
02:50:16,050 --> 02:50:17,430
on that. But yeah.

2814
02:50:20,100 --> 02:50:22,590
And there's all the memory, all
the ridicule from the media, how

2815
02:50:22,590 --> 02:50:25,650
come they can't catch a guy
who's six, five and has to bring

2816
02:50:25,650 --> 02:50:29,100
a dialysis machine everywhere?
He goes, Yeah, you can't find

2817
02:50:29,100 --> 02:50:32,190
that guy. Yeah. And then that
went away that that went by the

2818
02:50:32,190 --> 02:50:36,720
wayside. Somebody in the in the
office of propaganda went, Oh,

2819
02:50:36,720 --> 02:50:39,540
man, this is getting on our
nerves. Can we get them to stop

2820
02:50:39,540 --> 02:50:41,130
talking about the dialysis
machine?

2821
02:50:44,160 --> 02:50:47,700
Okay, let's see. Seems to be
troubling Bitcoin paradise,

2822
02:50:47,730 --> 02:50:51,330
which is, I don't know if you've
been following that. Yeah, a

2823
02:50:51,330 --> 02:50:56,940
little bit, it appears that you
can. You can DDoS something and

2824
02:50:56,940 --> 02:50:59,640
then the Bitcoins that will look
like it wasn't confirmed and

2825
02:50:59,640 --> 02:51:01,650
taken out of the wallet. And
then you can do it. It seems

2826
02:51:01,650 --> 02:51:03,120
like a flaw in the system.

2827
02:51:04,350 --> 02:51:06,420
Right, which will destroy the
system. Yeah.

2828
02:51:06,450 --> 02:51:09,330
Which if that's not fixed very
soon, that will the system is

2829
02:51:09,330 --> 02:51:14,310
kind of destroyed? No, no one's
paying out anymore. And the

2830
02:51:14,310 --> 02:51:20,400
current price according to what
is it? Mt. Gox? I guess there

2831
02:51:20,400 --> 02:51:27,120
are $617. But you know, we've
always kind of been waiting for

2832
02:51:27,120 --> 02:51:31,260
this to see what happens and
looks like, here it is, you

2833
02:51:31,260 --> 02:51:35,010
know, here's here's the issue.
But of course, you know, I don't

2834
02:51:35,010 --> 02:51:37,500
know, the I'm reading this from
Forbes, who claimed that we have

2835
02:51:37,500 --> 02:51:40,620
a subscription app. So I don't
know. Who knows.

2836
02:51:43,320 --> 02:51:45,840
You know, Forbes is not the best
source of this stuff.

2837
02:51:46,170 --> 02:51:47,580
You know, this is?

2838
02:51:48,360 --> 02:51:51,090
I don't think I was loaded with
native advertising. Yeah,

2839
02:51:51,120 --> 02:51:54,480
I don't think I was asked or you
were asked to comment on this.

2840
02:51:55,140 --> 02:51:59,670
On this Forbes piece, which was
about podcasting. And I guess

2841
02:51:59,670 --> 02:52:03,960
the crux of the article was you
don't need ads to make it in

2842
02:52:03,960 --> 02:52:08,190
podcasting. And it was a huge
bit about Patreon.

2843
02:52:09,180 --> 02:52:12,090
Which I think it was like a
native ad for paid. Yeah, it

2844
02:52:12,090 --> 02:52:14,370
seemed like a native ad for
Patreon. And then we were kind

2845
02:52:14,370 --> 02:52:17,520
of lumped in down at the bottom
saying, you know, other people

2846
02:52:17,520 --> 02:52:20,820
sell subscriptions and apps,
which we have, which we do

2847
02:52:20,820 --> 02:52:21,390
neither.

2848
02:52:23,040 --> 02:52:28,080
I might add. No, we don't sell
anything. No. So the show

2849
02:52:28,110 --> 02:52:31,770
Yeah, so I found that to be
interesting, the same time. Both

2850
02:52:31,770 --> 02:52:36,120
you I am the gay Crusader. We're
and I got I hate this. We're

2851
02:52:36,120 --> 02:52:41,640
asked by Russia today to comment
on to come on Skype and comment

2852
02:52:41,640 --> 02:52:49,290
on the LGBT laws in Russia. I'm
declined to this. No, I'm

2853
02:52:49,290 --> 02:52:50,850
declining this. I'm not going to
like that you

2854
02:52:50,850 --> 02:52:51,540
are going to do it.

2855
02:52:53,040 --> 02:52:56,130
First of all, Brian, the gay
Crusader should be on he wrote

2856
02:52:56,130 --> 02:53:00,030
the white paper. And if he's
nice, plug the problem, here's

2857
02:53:00,030 --> 02:53:03,750
what I don't like. So the
producer reaches out to all

2858
02:53:03,750 --> 02:53:06,870
three of us independently, not
on one email, but all

2859
02:53:06,870 --> 02:53:11,370
independently. And it's for an
edited piece. And you know, we

2860
02:53:11,370 --> 02:53:13,980
want to talk to you for 30
minutes, and then we're going to

2861
02:53:13,980 --> 02:53:17,430
make like, No, I'm not going to
do anything as edited. If it's

2862
02:53:17,430 --> 02:53:21,780
not live. I'd not interested.
This is how they screw you.

2863
02:53:25,380 --> 02:53:28,500
Yeah, they can do that. Yeah,
but I want no part of that.

2864
02:53:29,099 --> 02:53:32,729
Okay. They just should be Brian,
the gay Crusader. Anyway, that's

2865
02:53:32,729 --> 02:53:35,519
what it did on right. I thought
they were gonna talk to him. And

2866
02:53:35,519 --> 02:53:36,089
you

2867
02:53:36,240 --> 02:53:39,180
know, but I Why would I do that?
Why would I be why would I talk

2868
02:53:39,180 --> 02:53:41,820
to them for 30 minutes when he
wrote the whole white paper? All

2869
02:53:41,820 --> 02:53:46,290
I'm going to say is, yeah, I
like that. Right? Yeah, exactly.

2870
02:53:46,380 --> 02:53:49,830
I had it translated and looked
like it was bullcrap. He's gonna

2871
02:53:49,830 --> 02:53:54,360
make the points. He's, it's his
piece. Yeah, I'm just sceptical.

2872
02:53:54,360 --> 02:53:54,420
I

2873
02:53:54,420 --> 02:53:57,690
don't wait, where's this word?
Where are we? Where's this whole

2874
02:53:57,690 --> 02:53:58,770
process? Hopefully Brian

2875
02:53:58,770 --> 02:54:01,260
is going to do it. But the
producer keeps bugging me and

2876
02:54:01,260 --> 02:54:05,220
I'm not so I'm like, I really
don't want to do this.

2877
02:54:06,630 --> 02:54:10,200
Then well, when they asked me I
said you are the man. Now you

2878
02:54:10,200 --> 02:54:12,030
didn't I sent you i BCC

2879
02:54:12,060 --> 02:54:14,580
you or even better than that
you'd like we're available for

2880
02:54:14,580 --> 02:54:16,890
comment. All different all types
of issues.

2881
02:54:18,150 --> 02:54:20,790
Yeah, well, no, I like the show.
I know. I know.

2882
02:54:21,720 --> 02:54:24,930
I know. All right, we should
definitely get out of here.

2883
02:54:25,080 --> 02:54:29,700
There's a lot to a lot of stuff
I got to catch up on. Let's see

2884
02:54:29,700 --> 02:54:36,090
what else do we have I fulmen.
On Sunday show more cultural

2885
02:54:36,090 --> 02:54:41,430
Marxism. More gas stuff to look
at. I am but we'll be looking at

2886
02:54:41,430 --> 02:54:45,870
the Cybersecurity Framework,
which has just been released.

2887
02:54:47,550 --> 02:54:51,450
The background briefing which I
only got a man Don't you love it

2888
02:54:51,450 --> 02:54:56,310
when you get a document and it
says Hi, good morning, everyone.

2889
02:54:56,310 --> 02:54:58,830
We're delighted to launch the
Cybersecurity Framework just so

2890
02:54:58,830 --> 02:55:03,480
you know, all the information on
this call is embargoed. This is

2891
02:55:03,480 --> 02:55:06,240
the government. Does the
government get to embargo

2892
02:55:06,240 --> 02:55:07,050
information?

2893
02:55:08,849 --> 02:55:12,179
That's interesting. This call
will be good question I have

2894
02:55:12,179 --> 02:55:13,739
that's a good question. I can't
answer

2895
02:55:13,769 --> 02:55:16,319
just as a reminder of the
information, this call is

2896
02:55:16,319 --> 02:55:18,959
embargoed until that event
begins.

2897
02:55:19,709 --> 02:55:22,949
Well, I think they do that with
speeches. They give you Obama

2898
02:55:22,949 --> 02:55:26,099
speech in advance, but you can't
like put up some black guy and

2899
02:55:26,099 --> 02:55:30,929
have him read it in advance of
the speech. As if he was Obama.

2900
02:55:32,280 --> 02:55:35,670
Just some random funny idea.
That's what what happened. Yeah,

2901
02:55:35,760 --> 02:55:39,720
the onion, I could just see him
doing it. All information is

2902
02:55:39,720 --> 02:55:42,570
attributable to senior senior
administration officials on

2903
02:55:42,570 --> 02:55:46,560
background really, so that you
don't even hear who they are.

2904
02:55:46,560 --> 02:55:49,650
But this this cybersecurity
framework, this is what we've

2905
02:55:49,650 --> 02:55:57,300
been waiting for. And this is
how this truly is the the

2906
02:55:57,300 --> 02:56:03,960
fascistic government and work
how commercial companies and the

2907
02:56:03,990 --> 02:56:06,240
government will be working
together to share your

2908
02:56:06,240 --> 02:56:15,210
information. And the standards
are being written by NIST. And

2909
02:56:15,210 --> 02:56:20,130
the framework is going to exist
of standards and practices to

2910
02:56:20,130 --> 02:56:24,600
help organisations understand,
communicate, and manage their

2911
02:56:24,600 --> 02:56:33,000
cyber risks. And that reminds me
wow, that's kind of interesting.

2912
02:56:33,030 --> 02:56:35,640
It reminds me exactly of this
douchebag.

2913
02:56:38,970 --> 02:56:43,020
intelligence work takes place
within a strong legal framework

2914
02:56:43,020 --> 02:56:46,470
legal framework operates under
the rule of law, and are

2915
02:56:46,470 --> 02:56:49,590
accountable for it. In southern
countries, the secret

2916
02:56:49,590 --> 02:56:54,000
intelligence is used to control
the people in ours and only

2917
02:56:54,000 --> 02:56:57,870
exists to protect their
freedoms, protect them, you

2918
02:56:57,870 --> 02:56:58,170
gotta

2919
02:56:58,170 --> 02:57:01,800
love it, man, the framework, the
framework, the core, the

2920
02:57:01,800 --> 02:57:05,820
profiles, the tears, reinforcing
the connection between business

2921
02:57:05,820 --> 02:57:11,760
drivers and cybersecurity
activities. Oh, yes. I'll be

2922
02:57:11,760 --> 02:57:15,990
pulling that apart for
everybody. Why don't you be

2923
02:57:15,990 --> 02:57:16,800
working on John?

2924
02:57:18,630 --> 02:57:24,510
I'm gonna take a nap. Work on
the vinegar book. Maybe go up to

2925
02:57:24,510 --> 02:57:28,800
Leo's of Petaluma. Today check
out the local news feeds and

2926
02:57:28,800 --> 02:57:33,600
then probably nothing I don't
have any plans for Sunday. Oh,

2927
02:57:33,600 --> 02:57:36,630
no, but okay, you're gonna be on
the twigs work on the poppy

2928
02:57:36,630 --> 02:57:39,930
story a little more. There's
more to this than meets the eye.

2929
02:57:39,960 --> 02:57:43,800
I'm totally convinced that
Africa is going to be the now

2930
02:57:43,800 --> 02:57:48,000
that I saw this report about the
central called the the saw hell

2931
02:57:48,000 --> 02:57:53,130
or something, which turns out to
be a strip all the way across to

2932
02:57:53,130 --> 02:57:57,930
Africa, which has a bunch of
illegal drug activity and

2933
02:57:57,930 --> 02:58:01,830
criminality. And this is weird
strip, and it matches perfectly

2934
02:58:01,830 --> 02:58:06,720
in actual climate zone. So this
climate zone matches a criminal

2935
02:58:06,780 --> 02:58:10,800
strip of Africa that apparently
is uncontrollable, and I believe

2936
02:58:10,800 --> 02:58:13,200
this may be the area where
they're gonna put the put the

2937
02:58:13,200 --> 02:58:14,400
little puppies.

2938
02:58:14,519 --> 02:58:18,629
Alright, that was coming to you
from FEMA Region six in the

2939
02:58:18,629 --> 02:58:19,709
morning. I'm Adam curry.

2940
02:58:20,790 --> 02:58:23,280
And from Northern Silicon
Valley, which I believe is FEMA

2941
02:58:23,280 --> 02:58:26,520
Region nine, although it could
be changed. I'm John C. Dvorak.

2942
02:58:26,520 --> 02:58:27,420
We'll be back on Sunday

2943
02:58:27,420 --> 02:58:46,500
right here on no agenda. Three
to one. Adios MoPhO boruch.org/n

2944
02:58:46,560 --> 02:58:47,040
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