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Special execute anyone at her
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Dvorak.

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Sunday, July 7 2013. Time for
your Gitmo nation media

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assassination episode five to
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This is no agenda and join

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my star chamber in the Travis
heights hideout in Austin Jay

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Haas capital, the drone Star
State in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam curry,

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's dark. And there's

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crickets out. I'm John C.
Dvorak.

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Raglan Buzzkill. Did you have
like some kind of corporate deal

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with the Cricut maker guys who
said, what I

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can do if I if I keep saying
that the sounds like then people

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will believe it a place,

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then people? Oh, yeah. That
sounds just like crickets. No,

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doesn't sound Do it. Do it to
make the sound good. We've been

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listening to this for 10 minutes
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Oh, oh, dear. There's crickets.

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What shall we let's stay inside
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So well, we had a number of
incidents over the past few

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days, we're hoping they get to
hit our six week cycle. One of

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them I think had promised but it
got screwed up by this airplane

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crash, which we've determined is
not part of anything and in

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especially when the FBI comes
out and says no terrorism here.

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Yeah, so we need to backtrack
just a little bit. There may be

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some newer listeners to the
program. We were informed quite

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a while ago, by people inside of
the FBI, that the FBI does a lot

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of these these kind of like
honeypot deals where they

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infiltrate a group and that
goading the guy and like, you

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know, they, at no point does he
ever have any real explosives?

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And then like, yeah, man, hey,
you've dialed a cell phone

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number, and he will blow it all
up. And the reason why they do

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this approximately every six
weeks is because that's how they

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maintain their budgets. That's
how they grow the organization.

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That's what they do, quite
frankly. And we don't know if

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this is happening in every
agency. But we have pretty good

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confirmation affirmation. This
is happening with the FBI, and

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we've been able to kind of set
our clocks by it. And we were, I

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guess, Fourth of July was time
for a new one. Is that it? Yeah.

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The Fourth of July, July week. I
say that the incident in

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Washington State would qualify,
I could say, I wouldn't say

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there's a train wreck peculiar
train wreck that took place up

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in Canada. But that that didn't
seem to be getting any legs. And

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then of course, everything was
up ended by the 777 crash, which

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looks like would have been a
gem.

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Yeah, but there was You're
right. And it was really

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interesting to see this happen.
And most people who listen to

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the show for a while know that I
have been flying for. What is it

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now John a decade, more than a
decade, I've been flying like 12

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years, I've been flying
helicopters airplanes. And one

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of them was that

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long period of time where you
were smoking dope all the time

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while flying.

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And what what is always
interesting is to see how the

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reporting is done on aviation
incidents, because this is

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something I one of the few
things I actually know a lot

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about. You

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know, I just have a couple of
clips I want to play before we

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get into your analysis. Sure.
Because I was watching, I was

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watching in the reporting of
this from Central China News

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Service, because most of the
people that were on that plane

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were Chinese. In fact, most of
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can I just ask you something
about that. So there were 160

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Chinese people on this plane.
Yeah, a lot of students are oh,

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they're students. I'm like, What
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are students. We'd like Africa.
Now. There's just a million

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Chinese everywhere. And they're
like building pipelines and

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blowing in the Caribbean. They
have to take a flight out of

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Seoul. I don't know if they
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do now and before you get into
your clips, and I think we've

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talked about this before, that
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California airspace in
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you almost cannot understand
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because it's all Asian students,
primarily Chinese who are

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learning to fly. From zero
Sherif rah rah rah rah online.

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What? Ferrari rowshare on our
line, what you have no idea what

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they're talking about. It's
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Francisco is unintelligible
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not. It's frightening when
you're funny, too. You know?

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saying no. So I got a couple of
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peculiar report, but let's see
what we got. We got Asian

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passengers report. I think
there's a second one. Weird

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testimony of crash. Now. I want
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a kid that was on the flight.
And he he was talking he was

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weird. What he says is odd
enough. But then when he says it

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was sitting next to a hole in
the fuselage of a cop, good, you

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don't get to see this on the
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what happened. A cop came
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hold him off.

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While he was doing this, yeah.
Well, that's weird. What What's

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this was on the Chinese news.
Yeah, I was listened to it.

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One of the passengers aboard
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spoke to reporters after the
crash. It described what

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happened when the plane came in
to land at San Francisco

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International Airport. And went
up and down and then and then

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it's flipped to something like
that. I'm not sure. And then it

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hit the ground and then yeah, so
and what happened was people

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injured. Top just totally
collapsed on a lot of people. So

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a lot of people were injured.
Yeah. Okay. Where were you

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sitting? I was sitting next to
like, this big hole. Yeah.

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Now I've got one thing that kind
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guess it was, you know, the
slams down into the roof caves

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in

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it. This is but this is not the
this is not abnormal. Yeah, I've

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had a hard landing once in my
Cessna 182 Besides really

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rattling my my teeth, like, like
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I think I only landed hard from
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you know, essentially, a hard
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stall, so you have no lift. It's
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wing stall, you have no lift and
then you you fall to the ground

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like a brick. There's no
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boom, you're down it through all
my inch, I had to have the

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entire instrument panel taken
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everything was bent and broken.
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the airframe didn't have to go
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just 10 feet with a Cessna. So
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cave in is not unexpected at
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Okay, so now we go to Chinese
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just a bunch of miscellaneous
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interesting. This is all for
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anyone else's. So you when you
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this to account. Okay,

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thank you very much. Indeed. Our
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At San Francisco International
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to playing appeared to lose
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say the tail appeared to hit
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So what's this is this is kind
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probably it was exactly the
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reported, it sounds like they
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control going from left to
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tail fell off. Whereas it's
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where they came in nice and
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seawall. And then of course,
when you know when you have no

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tail and your landing gear is
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just rushing down whatever it

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was a guy that follows this has
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explanation for it saw that
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Well, yeah, people who say that
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triple somersaults. that's out
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you could see the front end pop
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and the tail of the plane caught
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then it pancaked on the runway.

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Chinese passenger aboard Asiana
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described his experience at the
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Sridhar describes the crash on
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does China's version of Twitter.
It says he was sitting at one

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end of the plane and the plane
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quickly on landing. As he looked
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it seemed to be level with
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suddenly and pull up abruptly
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explosion and could smell
burning and see flames. Now

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another entry on Weibo it says
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between landing to evacuation.
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remained very calm. There was no
shouting and passengers

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evacuated in an orderly fashion.
Their response to the crash of

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the Asiana Airlines flight in
San Francisco CCTV has launched

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an update service via social
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yeah, that shouldn't be

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okay. So let me let me give you
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here is pretty useless. It's
interesting that's coming from

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the Chinese television and and
from you know, from Chinese

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Twitter, but none of this you
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everything from it was coming in
too low, way too fast where All

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data shows exactly the opposite
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the aircraft was going to slow.
But for me, the fun thing was to

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immediately and you know, and I
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always looking for the story
behind the story he's looking

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for. And we've done lots of
aviation analysis where we think

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there has been a lot of fishing
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answers or something may even be
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this many different incidents in
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though, the fact that Sheryl
Sandberg was switched flights to

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get her to get miles on United,
that means nothing. It was not a

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message to Facebook. I don't
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her. And that the guy from
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this was

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random on any one of these
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people. Yeah, of course, of
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thing I'm sketchy about it
sounds like you know, it

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sounds it sounds like she's a
horn wants to promote her book

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is what it sounds like to me.

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That's what it sounds like to
me, too. I mean, why would if I

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was transferred flights and I do
it all commonly. And then the

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plane crashed. I'm not gonna go
out. Oh, geez, I go to bed on

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that plane. It's just like, you
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No, you wouldn't you probably
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I'll take it back. Publicity
horror is what I meant to say

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not a horror publicity whore.
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I'm seeing. I'm seeing

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I wouldn't do it unless I had a
book to sell right. But but

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let's go this last one and I
hate to bring the bell out on

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this one. But this just look
correspond a cute little British

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girl who looks frightened. And
but she's, she's cute. Very

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pretty on again to Chinese new
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I call her the M girl because
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not just a which is

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uncommon amongst she's like a
Hummer. She's a she's a kind of

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like a horror, but she doesn't
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she doesn't come off as one but
her um, scan to make up for and

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unfortunately, I have to ring
the bell as we play this. Okay,

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that's all right. We always
appreciate that.

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Some have gone to nearby cities
to wait it out. But as I say,

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Tomorrow morning is when we will
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of that team. Terrorism has been
ruled out by the FBI, which is

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an important thing to add.
Because after 911 questions are

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immediately raised as to whether
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terrorism, we do not believe
that to be the case. And various

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theories are being put forward
at this stage of absolutely only

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speculation. But some people are
wondering if there was a power

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outage on the plane. Other
people wondering if the fact

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that the runway was lengthened
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pilots approach. Wait a minute.
Wait a minute. Was

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she a passenger?

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Oh, okay. Thank you. Oh, my Wait
a minute. What does she she's

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and she's just talking out of
her anus. This is This is funny.

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I'm a

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survivor of that. Also a piece
of technology a device which

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helps pilots to judge distances
and height as they come into a

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piece of

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technology that helps pilots to
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It's been around since World War
Two, young lady, this piece of

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technology has supposedly been
out of action for a few days out

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of action for a few days. Oh,
again, questions, your best

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clip. Beautiful weather. It was
a clear blue sky this morning,

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so I just want to let the extra
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certainly asked about how this
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All right. All right. Thank you.
This was a good clip because

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this is exactly what pisses me
off so much. And and any one of

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you listening to this podcast
will know something. You're an

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expert in something. It may be
gardening, it may be bicycle

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shop repair, it may be trading
stocks and bonds. I don't know

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what it is. It's probably

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one of those guys, give us a
give us some tips. stocks. You

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know, you may be working I don't
think you need to justify your

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position I think we should get

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no I'm not justifying the
position. Um, I just want to

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remind people, Hey, give me a
break here is that when you see

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something in the news that you
actually knows something about

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and it's completely wrong. You
must assume everything else in

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the news is wrong. That's the
point I'm making. Oh,

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yeah, you did that you tend to
do that I think which means we

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make these mistakes we say some
boneheaded stuff once a while

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but we usually make up for it.
Yeah. Yeah. In a follow up.

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Here's what happened. First of
all, this is great because only

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two people died. Why am I
getting the bell rung at me? I

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said great. Okay, okay. Every
single time you say so I'll hit

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you with that. I wish you would.
We have the show would be too

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long. This is a guy named made
me self conscious. This is this

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is an interesting accident
because we have two pilots who

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are alive. Very low death count.
Everyone got off the bus. laying

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quickly and of course the two
victims I believe that they were

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probably ripped out of the plane
when the tale came yes

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actually one report by the
Chinese let me get to my

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analysis Mr. Cliff said that the
two guys were throw it to women

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thrown out yeah, now that sounds
like they were

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ripped out. Which sucks. Though
didn't um the ILS the instrument

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landing system on this
particular runway was is out of

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service until August this was
mentioned in the no Tam, the

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notice to Airmen, nothing
unusual about that had they

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needed to do an instrument
landing they could have taken

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runway one nine, not a problem
that was fully in service. When

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you do a visual approach, and
most of in San Francisco, most

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of these landings are visual
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weather. It's also a beautiful,
it's almost straight in all the

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way and it's nice coming over
the water. And then when then

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you're down. It's a huge, huge
long runway. You also have your

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Pap eye lights, Pappy lights, or
you might hear a lot of

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boneheads on the news talking
about Poppy lights or whatever,

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they have no idea what they're
talking about P API and this is

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their the red and white lights
position so that you can find

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the exact right glide path. And
if you're too low, then you have

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four red, if you're too high,
you get four whites. And if

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you're exactly on the glide
path, you have two red lights

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and two white lights. Now, these
lights could have been tampered

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with, that's entirely possible.
But that's pretty much how you

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come in. But also, if you know
how to drive a car, you kind of

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get a feel after 10,000 hours of
flying, where are you going to

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put this airplane down, it's
this is not like some big

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magical mystical thing, you do
have a feel for the plane unless

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you don't know what you're
doing. Or maybe you haven't

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practiced in years and just
letting the plane auto land. And

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these guys came in too low. And
from the data we have, which is

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not not necessarily accurate as
radar data, we can see that it

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appears the plane, the aircraft
was going too slow at a certain

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point may have stalled, they hit
full throttle, then essentially

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tried to execute a go around,
popped up the nose, which is

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over rotation that maybe they
weren't even in rotation the

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tail hits the seawall. And
that's it, the rest of the plane

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slams down and that thing is
starting to break apart the

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minute that happens. And you
know, you're still doing

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according to the data, we have
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you're gonna glide on for a bit.
And there's really nothing more

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or less to it. That doesn't seem
to be any, any I'm going to say

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probably pilot error in unless
there was some catastrophic

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event that doesn't appear to
have happen that cut the

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engines, you know, 1000 feet up,
but the data we have now just

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doesn't show it. So we have two
pilots who are alive. We have

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blackbox will and by the time
you listen to this podcast,

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everything may already be be
known. But I agree, John, that

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the minute the FBI came on when
and it's funny how whenever we

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have these events, usually
speculation of terrorism is

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right on the front. Except when
it's really not set up in a

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really it's an accident. You
know what I mean?

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Exactly? It's like, was it? Did
you guys do anything in that

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department? No.

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We were clean. No, I'll clear
here. Hey, is this CIA ops? No,

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no. They call USA Today. They
usually they know more than we

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do know. Now. We don't know
anything. Okay, bring out the

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guy to say it's not us. So bad
day in aviation. That's today.

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wrecker is what we call it. Now,
it's not to say that because I

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did read. Here we go. The White
House put out a statement. Soon

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after the plane crash in San
Francisco, the President was

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made aware of the incident by
Lisa Monaco Assistant to the

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President for Homeland Security
and Counterterrorism. It's not

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to say they won't use it. That
is always a possibility. Yeah,

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he's

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gonna be hard.

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I think you guys he was very
hard to do that now. But but I'm

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sure they probably evaluated it.
Can we use this? Can we do

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anything with this? Oh, well,
oh, well, only thing I'll give

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you my little minor crackpot
theory. We've had a huge I think

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we had a class X. A solar flare
it and at around the same time,

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there was another set a triple
seven that had an incident.

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Where is it? Probable but there
was another one there was

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another triple seven that had
some incident about five minutes

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apart from the flight to 14,
maybe maybe maybe somewhere it

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is possible that instruments got
jiggered because of some kind of

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Solar because we have had some
very severe solar weather

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events. So it's possible but you
know, I don't like that

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it's used for the pilot. Yeah,

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I'm not very familiar with the
triple seven we're kind of steam

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gauges they have because all
most aircraft that I know of the

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other got the computers and
everything but they still have

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kind of a steam gauge version of
an altimeter and that's kind of

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what you need, you know your
speed and altitude you can you

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can do pretty well with those
two. And it just seems like they

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messed it up and sad, but that's
it.

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Well, it wasn't a major disaster
it was just a disaster.

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Yeah, there's no what
constitutes a disaster Do you

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doesn't have to have a certain
body count or no I

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don't even think is body
counting of building a bridge

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collapsing and nobody getting
killed is a disaster. That's a

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crazy galloping Gertie on the
Verrazano straits. You know,

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that bridge, it was swinging
back and forth with a car on it.

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Though I think the only death
was the dog in the car. Remember

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that? Yeah. So John Kerry's
head. Can we call that a

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disaster is that does that
character? Did you see him? So

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you know, when a revolution is
the worst Secretary of State?

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Oh, well, and he doesn't even
know how to do it right. Now.

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All he does is talk but worse.
So Egypt is in the midst of some

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form of revolution. And he is
taking a canoe out to his tender

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to get on his yacht. He was on
this boat. Did you see these

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pictures of him in a canoe? It's
hilarious. He's taking. Yeah,

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it's a little red canoe. And
he's taken the canoe out to the

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tender. The tender is kind of
the boat that takes you to the

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shot to the yacht. And then he's
he's got his backpack and his

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weekend bag. And he's like,
looking at the cameras like,

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hey, we do. And he was on his
yacht. I mean, the President was

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in the, you know, in the set B.
Yeah. He was in the his city,

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his war room, his situation
room, looking all concerned and

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everybody was there except
Kerry. He couldn't even make it

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to the meeting. He was on the
yacht. That's dumb. That I mean,

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that's, that's, you don't you
don't you do not aspire to a

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political future. If this
happens, and you're not in the

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room.

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Yeah, pretty much that was done,
especially with this thing

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going. I mean, not only that,
but it's the other things going

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on. He doesn't have time to be
floating around on his yacht

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with his top ciders.

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I do have a feeling that you're
right. This University of

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Washington thing. Well, maybe
they were going to try and play

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this up. And this seems like a
total FBI setups.

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very sketchy. I have one clip or
two clips out actually. Can I

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play one? You have one? Is it
the same clip? I have?

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I don't know. I've got one with
scary music.

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I think I just have a straight
news report. Well, I have a news

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report. A scary new music and

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so this is a news report from
Washington from local news,

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where they put the scary music
in which to me is like oh, this

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is the queue. This is gotta be
the guy. Now our other big story

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of the night.

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A stolen stolen guns and Molotov
cocktails. And I police have

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arrested a suspect but now
investigators are trying to

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figure out why he was here and
what he might have been planning

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to do.

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Have you ever heard a news
report with that music?

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This is like a local news rip
yes this

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is Katie sounds like a package

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it well. Thank

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you. I'm pretty sure it's a
package. But then they do it

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with this music this kind of
electronica Suspense music

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that Madison police custody and
so is the cache of weapons and

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body armor from the back of the
truck cache

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a cache of weapons it's like a
disaster of weapons. Tonight.

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We're getting our first look at
that vehicle but police still

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aren't sure what the suspect
might have been planning come

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before us. John

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Humbert has the latest
developments for us tonight. The

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truck wasn't his but police say
the weapons were last night

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University of Washington police
arrested 21 year old Justin

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miles Jasper and Nevada
resident. They first found him

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near U DUB Tuesday sleeping in
the truck. Nothing seemed out of

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place. There was no need to have
any additional contact with the

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suspect the subject at that
time. So he was released. But

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Wednesday morning, everything
changed. That blue truck came

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back as stolen from Butte,
Montana. Police went back on the

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hunt. And this

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is what I find interesting. So
this guy, they talked to him he

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was sleeping in the truck and
then the truck turns out to be

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stolen. They go back or the guy
still there. He's still sleeping

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because he's such a terrorist.
He's hanging around in the same

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spot. We have no idea what his
intentions are.

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Police eventually found Jasper
in the truck last night and

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uncovered a stolen shotgun,
scoped rifle scoped rifle. A

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handful of Molotov cocktails and
body armor.

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Molotov cocktail.

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How do you have a handful of
Molotov cocktails?

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He's got big hands. His hands
are the big foam hands got the

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biggest hands in the world
Malkoff cocktails technically, a

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bottle of like a, like a milk
bottle filled with gasoline and

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a rag stuffed in

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it. Yeah, no, this is this is
sterno things it's for cooking.

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So he had no Molotov. This is
crazy. And the best part, which

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there's not mentioned in this
report, I don't know if you ever

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report about it is that he had a
podcast.

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Yeah. That was in the written
report. I didn't hear it in any

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of the TV stuff.

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No. And I was like, really? Are
they going for the podcast? But

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I listened to his podcast, which
is called Freedom Fighter radio.

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Oh, you found it? Yeah. I

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sent you a note I sent you in I
actually sent you a link to it

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on iTunes

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it Oh, yeah. The clip? No, I

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can't. You don't even you can't
listen to this for five seconds.

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It's this guy is insane. And his
whole podcast one of these Alex

442
00:25:57,810 --> 00:26:02,580
Jones wannabes. Like they're
ever gonna do a rally here we

443
00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:04,860
got our we're gonna have our
ARS. We're gonna be cocked and

444
00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:08,280
loaded and one in the chamber.
I'm gonna get pissed off people.

445
00:26:12,210 --> 00:26:12,630
That's

446
00:26:13,290 --> 00:26:15,390
telling you pretty good. Alex
Jones.

447
00:26:15,420 --> 00:26:19,470
Oh, I can do much better. I told
you this. We have to document

448
00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:23,670
the join us again. Blow your
voice. Yeah.

449
00:26:24,570 --> 00:26:27,210
Would it be that we messed up?
If I then wound up having a

450
00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:28,500
voice like him all the time?

451
00:26:28,890 --> 00:26:32,070
Yeah, you blew it. You blow your
voice out trying to do him and

452
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:34,110
then up then you become a voice.

453
00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:36,810
Alright, let's have some tangy
tangerine.

454
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,130
Okay, well, I took a different
little a different tact on this.

455
00:26:41,130 --> 00:26:44,610
I I think maybe they weren't
going after podcasts. But I

456
00:26:44,610 --> 00:26:47,730
think they de emphasize that on
these reports. Luckily,

457
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,170
well, the podcasts suck so bad.
If it's a detriment to you can't

458
00:26:52,170 --> 00:26:54,300
even it's not fair to call it a
podcast,

459
00:26:54,330 --> 00:26:56,730
just a rantings of a lunatic?
Well,

460
00:26:57,420 --> 00:26:59,610
I have a link to it. Everyone
can go check it out on talk

461
00:26:59,610 --> 00:27:03,060
shoe. What's interesting, is he
has one line on talk shoe you

462
00:27:03,060 --> 00:27:06,570
can record and then you can
schedule it for release. It's

463
00:27:06,570 --> 00:27:11,250
supposed to come out I think on
the 11th so tomorrow, no, the

464
00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:16,080
11th No, the ninth Tuesday. It's
supposed to automatically be

465
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:21,480
released so you can't listen to
it yet. Yeah, I know. But this

466
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,840
guy is over. It doesn't matter.
This is no play. No play. He's

467
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,070
out of out of play.

468
00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:29,490
I think so too. But I think
there's still an element here

469
00:27:29,490 --> 00:27:32,130
that we have to be on the
lookout for and see if you can

470
00:27:32,130 --> 00:27:36,720
spot what it is with the I
haven't in both in well you'll

471
00:27:36,750 --> 00:27:38,580
you'll catch in the second clip
for sure.

472
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,050
Which 1am i Oh Jasper one Jasper
one. All right.

473
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,760
Disturbing details emerge about
a man you got music to do you

474
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,860
hear that? Some local news shows
are great arrested near the

475
00:27:52,860 --> 00:27:54,270
University of Washington.

476
00:27:54,450 --> 00:27:58,140
Investigators say not only was
he armed with fire bombs, guns,

477
00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:03,240
knives and a machete he had maps
to three Seattle campuses. It

478
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,130
sounds very similar to mine. To
my scary music. No yours is

479
00:28:08,130 --> 00:28:11,670
scary. Do you mind to hold on to
somebody? Let me check. Now our

480
00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:16,170
other big story of the night a
stark difference to judge

481
00:28:16,170 --> 00:28:19,740
called the suspect and imminent
threat the prosecutor laid out

482
00:28:19,740 --> 00:28:22,830
stunning new evidence it all
unfolded today in the Seattle

483
00:28:22,830 --> 00:28:26,100
courtroom as we got our first
look at the man behind all the

484
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:29,370
ammo. Coming first Lindsey Cohen
is live in downtown Seattle with

485
00:28:29,370 --> 00:28:31,170
a very first appearance.

486
00:28:32,490 --> 00:28:35,430
Where does all the ammo come
from? We haven't heard about it

487
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:35,700
he's

488
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:39,840
behind for just drove Bella's

489
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:44,640
picked up just 1000s of boxes of
ammo. Buy love. Have a good

490
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,740
time. I'll see you later Jasper
Lindsay.

491
00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:50,730
Eric, we also got our first
glimpse at some core papers

492
00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:54,270
where that suspect lists his
occupation as a journalist. What

493
00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:57,300
we don't have at this point is
any sort of motive or

494
00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:58,080
explanation.

495
00:28:59,010 --> 00:29:02,160
There I see what you're coming
at. He's a journalist.

496
00:29:04,890 --> 00:29:08,850
He may have no criminal history,
but prosecutors hint Justin

497
00:29:08,850 --> 00:29:12,030
miles Jasper may have been
planning something big being

498
00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:16,020
military grade and quality in
addition to a stockpile of

499
00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:19,170
military grade weapons.
Prosecutors now say the Las

500
00:29:19,170 --> 00:29:22,500
Vegas resident was filled with
anti government literature. In

501
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:26,190
addition to detailed maps of
Seattle area college campuses,

502
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,810
you had a no agenda lanyard,
which is anti government

503
00:29:30,810 --> 00:29:31,560
literature.

504
00:29:31,710 --> 00:29:34,830
And police at the University of
Washington pulled him over in a

505
00:29:34,830 --> 00:29:37,050
stolen truck Wednesday night

506
00:29:37,170 --> 00:29:40,560
yet maps detailed maps to three
college campuses including

507
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,070
University of Washington,
Seattle Community College and

508
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:45,210
Seattle University.

509
00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:49,980
That's great. I love the
journalist.

510
00:29:50,610 --> 00:29:52,140
Yeah, no journalists,

511
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,470
from podcasts or journalists.
Yeah, that's good.

512
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:57,150
Okay, now there's a couple of
memes here we have to always

513
00:29:57,180 --> 00:30:01,080
deal with one is we know and
we've talked about And we're at

514
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,360
least the two of us. I believe
both of us are convinced that

515
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,260
they're trying to criminalize
unlicensed journalism.

516
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:12,420
Yes. Wanton, wanton publishing
wanton. potlights, and

517
00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:13,260
publishing and

518
00:30:13,260 --> 00:30:16,080
all the rest of it. So there's
gonna be a lot of people, I

519
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,930
don't think the two of us would
be categorized in this category.

520
00:30:18,930 --> 00:30:22,080
I mean, I've been written for
newspapers, I think I get I get

521
00:30:22,110 --> 00:30:24,060
I get through the filter.

522
00:30:24,179 --> 00:30:25,799
Are you saying something about
me?

523
00:30:26,010 --> 00:30:29,430
You? You? I think you, you, I
don't know why

524
00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:33,810
I have I do have a case, I have
thoughts on what defines someone

525
00:30:33,810 --> 00:30:36,030
as a journalist or not I knew to
anyone

526
00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:38,610
is a journalist who didn't with
the Founding Fathers, they were

527
00:30:38,610 --> 00:30:41,550
all journalistic. Anyone who
writes as a journalist, and it's

528
00:30:41,550 --> 00:30:44,160
all it's legal to write and say
what you want. That's what the

529
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,760
whole deal is. I don't know why
they've made why they're trying

530
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,700
to crack down on this. But but
the idea is to make I do

531
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,380
I do, okay, because their
definition quote, they there

532
00:30:55,380 --> 00:31:00,990
them, those guys, a journalist
is someone who has an editor,

533
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,200
that is what is going to be the
ultimate definition of a

534
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,560
journalist. If you are within an
organization or your work is

535
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,810
submitted to an editor, then you
will be deemed a journalist and

536
00:31:12,810 --> 00:31:13,590
annual, you're gonna

537
00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:16,710
have to submit your work to me.
Yes, and you will have to

538
00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:21,630
approve it. I have to fan and I
have to grade me on it. When I

539
00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:24,540
send the newsletter out. In
fact,

540
00:31:24,930 --> 00:31:26,970
I approve it, I approve your
work, send

541
00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:28,860
it to you edit it,

542
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,400
and I send it back. And usually
I'm like, oh, man, don't you

543
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,590
know how to spell use a spell
checker?

544
00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:40,650
So I use a spell checker beside
the point. Yeah, works great.

545
00:31:40,890 --> 00:31:43,710
But you have to put that so I
think it would whatever the case

546
00:31:43,710 --> 00:31:46,500
is that in the other one, which
I think is the one that we're

547
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:49,620
really working on here, which is
a freedom of speech. The Press

548
00:31:49,650 --> 00:31:54,060
issue, yeah, which is anti
government literature, whatever

549
00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:57,510
that is, we play Jasper to and
we hear some outside.

550
00:31:58,170 --> 00:32:01,680
What Jasper was going to do with
those universities remains to be

551
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,150
seen but police say they found a
shotgun, a rifle, six Molotov

552
00:32:06,150 --> 00:32:09,720
cocktails, three knives, even
body armor. In court,

553
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,140
prosecutors held up some of the
anti government literature that

554
00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:14,250
was also found

555
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,460
shooting revolution is being
hijacked by Western vultures.

556
00:32:17,790 --> 00:32:19,890
The other one the Brazilian
revolution is

557
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:25,140
Jasper's arrest on the Fourth of
July caught the attention of

558
00:32:25,140 --> 00:32:26,760
students at U DUB Oh, hold

559
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,990
on a second. What's the play
there? Yeah, he read the his

560
00:32:30,990 --> 00:32:32,760
This is anti government
literature

561
00:32:33,060 --> 00:32:35,610
that it's talking about the
Brazilian government. Yeah,

562
00:32:35,610 --> 00:32:39,750
he says this Syrian the Syrian
revolution is being hijacked by

563
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:42,480
Western powers. And the
Brazilian revolution is not

564
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,430
being emphasized something or
other. How is this and rose to

565
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:50,130
being anti government with maybe
it's about some other

566
00:32:50,130 --> 00:32:53,400
government. But this is not anti
government literature,

567
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:57,390
these this is very, very
dangerous. This news report is

568
00:32:57,390 --> 00:33:00,720
more dangerous than this guy.
Obviously, this is the kind of

569
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,560
stuff that this report is
disgusting. It's very unedited.

570
00:33:04,590 --> 00:33:08,550
Clearly, we have some package
things being sent around with,

571
00:33:08,910 --> 00:33:12,210
with music all queued up to make
it all you know, to emphasize

572
00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:15,060
it. We know that this happens
all the time that these news

573
00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:17,760
packages are sent out. And then
the local news loves it. They

574
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,740
love getting it because they
don't have to send a guy out to

575
00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:23,190
do a voiceover didn't sound like
they had much more than that.

576
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:28,020
They had pool video. Yeah, this
is dangerous. This is very

577
00:33:28,020 --> 00:33:31,710
dangerous stuff. But we're
getting close. John, we are now

578
00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:36,330
officially within target range
when they start talking about

579
00:33:36,660 --> 00:33:40,260
podcasters being journalists and
then journalists having anti

580
00:33:40,260 --> 00:33:43,830
government material. How about
our show notes?

581
00:33:45,450 --> 00:33:48,570
They don't notes for the no
agenda show or anti government?

582
00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:53,760
I was a prosecutor with you
know, a grudge. Yeah. Or I just

583
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,300
had you targeted, let's say
targeted? Yeah, I could go

584
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,810
through that. And I could make a
case easily. But I could do that

585
00:34:00,810 --> 00:34:02,880
with the New York Times for that
matter.

586
00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:07,110
This is this is what this whole
man, this is exactly the

587
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:11,310
conversation that people need to
understand when it comes to

588
00:34:11,610 --> 00:34:15,330
getting, you know, allowing some
mediocre encroachment on your

589
00:34:15,330 --> 00:34:19,230
liberty, in turn for some
safety. This is exactly the

590
00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:22,200
problem, the interpretation. I
was telling someone the other

591
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,190
day, I was involved in the first
real loss that I was involved in

592
00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:31,470
with many more to follow was at
Viacom versus me about the

593
00:34:31,470 --> 00:34:37,260
mtv.com domain name. And this is
now 1993. And I went through the

594
00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:40,560
process of discovery and with
discovery, you pretty much have

595
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,740
to show everything that the
other side asked for and in

596
00:34:43,770 --> 00:34:49,950
those days, it was email but
email we didn't have you know,

597
00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:53,640
nice little didn't have Gmail or
any of this. You know, you had

598
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,880
your email on a server that you
typically had in your own

599
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,120
office. We didn't have you know,
services that hosted me They'll

600
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,080
servers. And I had to take
printouts of email, yes,

601
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,850
printouts, reams of paper, and
backups on floppies, which were

602
00:35:08,850 --> 00:35:11,580
three and a half inch hard
floppies, not quite the floppy

603
00:35:11,580 --> 00:35:14,940
floppies. And I had to take them
over and I had to walk through

604
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:19,080
it all with the with the other
attorneys. And when this is used

605
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,010
in court, as I wrote something
off the cuff like, you know,

606
00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:27,420
fuck those guys at MTV, but
about, you know, a video that

607
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:30,150
we're playing. And I wrote that
to someone else that was then

608
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:34,590
used in court. Yeah. And you
hear the other lawyer use this,

609
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:38,880
you know, clearly Mr. Curry had
a disdain for the, and you sit

610
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,550
there you go, like, holy crap,
I'm guilty. That's how that's

611
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:48,360
how it comes across it without
context without the that's why

612
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,620
communications that are private
have to be private. Because if I

613
00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:56,070
say this show, John knows, as
you all know, I'm talking about

614
00:35:56,070 --> 00:35:59,610
no agenda show. But to someone
who just reads that sentence in

615
00:35:59,610 --> 00:36:02,790
a transcript has no idea what
they think, Oh, he was talking

616
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:07,320
about that guy's show. It's the
context that that that can then

617
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,580
be used to put anyone in jail,
including, as you point out,

618
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:15,450
John and the entire staff, a
newsroom with the New York Times

619
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:21,300
if you have no context. Yeah.
Alright, that's it. Good night.

620
00:36:21,330 --> 00:36:21,660
We're done

621
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:26,310
at a drop of a hat if it was if
it wasn't, but by virtue of the

622
00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:29,250
fact that we are so
entertaining, many of our

623
00:36:29,250 --> 00:36:32,880
government agents, yes. We've
gone long ago.

624
00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:37,140
Like, I'm sure the note comes by
from time to time, it has time

625
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:43,590
to pick those guys up. And I was
like, Oh, no. What are we going

626
00:36:43,590 --> 00:36:47,520
to do twice a week? What I'm
going to do on my commute? Have

627
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,800
you ever driven in to the DC?
Come on, we can't pick those

628
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,730
guys up. But clearly,
Something's coming.

629
00:36:57,029 --> 00:37:02,429
Yeah. And it has to do with
government literature. I have

630
00:37:02,429 --> 00:37:04,829
like a fairly decent collection
for exam

631
00:37:04,859 --> 00:37:08,789
of anti government literature.
No, I haven't selected Lenin the

632
00:37:08,789 --> 00:37:10,019
anti government literature

633
00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:12,390
Marxist stuff. In fact, I'm
reading Karl Marx's history of

634
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:15,210
the civil war as we speak now
you

635
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:19,380
you you commie anti government
basket would be

636
00:37:19,439 --> 00:37:22,349
it could be easily construed if
it was taken completely out of

637
00:37:22,349 --> 00:37:27,299
context. Yes, I was a communist.
Communist as you can get.

638
00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:30,090
Absolutely. And that's the
number one thing with books I

639
00:37:30,090 --> 00:37:31,890
have mine calm fear.

640
00:37:33,090 --> 00:37:36,330
Well, I've always suspected that
Oh, please come on. I have mine

641
00:37:36,330 --> 00:37:39,810
coffin I have. I have
Mussolini's novel. Of course,

642
00:37:39,810 --> 00:37:42,300
you have mine comp. Yeah, of
course. It's somewhere I don't

643
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,480
even know where it is important
information. I have Mussolini's

644
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:51,390
novel, which has got to say that
must be crazy. No, yes. Well, I

645
00:37:51,390 --> 00:37:54,660
can't remember the name of it's
really a piece of crap. I think

646
00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:56,730
it's very collected information,
man.

647
00:37:56,940 --> 00:37:59,910
New shit has come to light.
You're not going to believe

648
00:37:59,910 --> 00:38:03,810
this. The book that you turned
everyone on to in the garden of

649
00:38:03,810 --> 00:38:10,680
the beasts. Yeah, yeah. Now I so
there's only two possible

650
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:16,260
reasons this is happening. A
which I want to believe we are

651
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:20,850
just so ahead of the curve. Are
you Did you just get Whoa, what

652
00:38:20,850 --> 00:38:21,420
was that?

653
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:23,820
Not me. Oh, that was me.

654
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:32,100
Never had that happen before. On
the Windows box. either. You are

655
00:38:32,130 --> 00:38:35,310
just so ahead of the curve,
which I think is pretty much

656
00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:39,840
what we always are on the show
or and I'd hate to think this.

657
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,700
You are an agent of change.
Throwing propaganda on us.

658
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:49,320
Yeah, yeah. That seems unlikely
based on my income

659
00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:57,030
Tom. Tom Hanks will be releasing
the movie version of in the

660
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:59,670
garden of beasts in 2014. Well,
that'd

661
00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:00,240
be great.

662
00:39:00,270 --> 00:39:03,690
How about that? Yeah. Is that
insane that we've been talking

663
00:39:03,690 --> 00:39:08,640
about this. And he will play the
ambassador he'll play the

664
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,700
ambassador and Natalie Portman
will be this is gonna be a huge

665
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:12,360
mural. Natalie

666
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,330
Portman is going to be the dim
witted daughter. Yeah.

667
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,250
It says it says rumored but I'm

668
00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:24,870
perfect. I think she'd be good
all in on the Nazi screw and

669
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:27,420
they head to the Gestapo. And
she's smoking.

670
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:33,450
Yeah. Tommy. So now we have to
think Tom Hanks. Him doing this

671
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,120
is he what's the spin he's gonna
eat? I mean, it's hard to put

672
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,830
any spin on this book, although
I looked at the budget

673
00:39:40,830 --> 00:39:42,240
was producing and direct he is

674
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,730
it's his touchstone. It's his
it's his he's gonna It's Oh,

675
00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:48,510
he's going yeah. No, yes. No,
no, I'm sorry, Director.

676
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:54,240
Michelle. azana Vicus. Let me
see what Michelle Havana NICUs

677
00:39:54,240 --> 00:40:02,730
has done. He's done. Ooh, some
spy. Movies OSS one separately,

678
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:07,950
guys. What is the artists 2009?
Which I O T directed the artist?

679
00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:12,960
Oh, hello you know the artists
right?

680
00:40:13,110 --> 00:40:13,890
I know the

681
00:40:13,890 --> 00:40:16,740
artists yeah the silent movie
that won the Best Oscar so

682
00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:18,240
that's a great director.

683
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,460
Well, yeah, but now he's got
voices so you get to do it as a

684
00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:23,910
silent

685
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:27,810
silent, silent movie to a great
movie no talking just a bunch of

686
00:40:27,810 --> 00:40:29,700
Nazis all over Natalie Portman.

687
00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:34,650
Well after reading the book I'm
gonna be interested in see how

688
00:40:34,650 --> 00:40:37,260
they handle it as a screenplay
because there's a lot of stuff

689
00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:38,640
in there. That's really weird
play

690
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,500
tone productions have not
touched on Play tone

691
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:43,530
productions. That's Hanks his
movie company budget. $50

692
00:40:43,530 --> 00:40:48,930
million. That's small. That's a
small budget. Of course he can

693
00:40:48,930 --> 00:40:49,170
but it's

694
00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:52,140
not an action adventure. That's
actually for just a straight

695
00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:54,060
drama. That's that seems Reason
No,

696
00:40:54,090 --> 00:41:00,180
that's not true. It depends on
the stars. Most of the money

697
00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:02,490
that you see in these budgets,
Frank Karachi, my friend who

698
00:41:02,490 --> 00:41:04,980
just did the he doesn't the
Kevin James movies, which are

699
00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:10,530
not action movies, but he had
Kevin James, Salma Hayek, he had

700
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,030
Henry Winkler that's $170
million movie and I said, What

701
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:18,660
do you do? You spend it on
hookers? He's like, Yeah,

702
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:22,620
they're called actors. Because
every one of these actors these

703
00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:25,290
days are getting 20 $25 million.
It's crazy.

704
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:27,960
Yeah, but if you're doing it,
maybe this is a small this is

705
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,870
not the regular production
company that Jenks works for. It

706
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:33,120
sounds to me that is going to
take just a piece of the action,

707
00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:36,600
run it out as an indie, and it's
not going to cost that much.

708
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:37,980
Well, that is fine budget.

709
00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:42,540
He's probably not taking any
money. And this problem and this

710
00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:45,780
budget probably does not include
anything regarding marketing.

711
00:41:45,930 --> 00:41:48,030
And Playtone. His his own
production company.

712
00:41:48,510 --> 00:41:51,690
Yeah, he's just gonna go for the
small, small. Yeah.

713
00:41:52,590 --> 00:41:57,600
But but it could. No, he's been
known to do some kind of

714
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,920
propaganda stick stuff.

715
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:00,930
Yeah, very much. So.

716
00:42:00,990 --> 00:42:04,020
Yeah. So is he going to turn
this around and turn it into the

717
00:42:04,020 --> 00:42:05,070
Nazis? We're good?

718
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,810
Don't think so? I think it'll
work that one out.

719
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,870
And how do you choose this? The
only reason you brought this

720
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:16,320
book up is to say hold on a
second. Look at exactly where we

721
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,590
are. This is the only reason to
read this book now is to say,

722
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,490
here's history. Look at what
happened the run up to the to

723
00:42:23,490 --> 00:42:27,600
the Hitler regime, to the
killing of anyone not blue eyed

724
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,410
and blonde, to the overrun of
Europe to the the second

725
00:42:31,410 --> 00:42:35,850
greatest World War. The only
reason to read that now is to

726
00:42:35,850 --> 00:42:39,450
avoid the same trappings which
we're clearly headed right

727
00:42:39,450 --> 00:42:43,170
towards. Do you think Tom Hanks
is the guy to bring this message

728
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,310
in this movie? Or is he trying
to fork this message and make it

729
00:42:47,310 --> 00:42:50,550
into a Nazi movie? You know what
I mean?

730
00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:56,250
Like don't go read the message I
think the message I think you're

731
00:42:56,250 --> 00:43:01,230
writing the message of this book
it base level is that the world

732
00:43:01,230 --> 00:43:04,140
back then is maybe what we're
going through now which is we

733
00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:08,820
talk about this commonly on the
show that are we in the 30s in

734
00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:13,470
1930s Germany it was was it like
that when you around the dinner

735
00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:15,780
table what was going on in
Germany they weren't all freaked

736
00:43:15,780 --> 00:43:17,760
out because Hitler was running
things they were all happy

737
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,210
people were acting normal they
agreed with everything you know

738
00:43:21,210 --> 00:43:24,420
in fact like the story in the in
the book which the with the

739
00:43:24,420 --> 00:43:27,600
demoted daughter, who's screwing
everybody she just thinks that

740
00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:33,630
Nazism is fantastic, right?
Right and then famous. What's

741
00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:40,410
good Kaltenborn who was a radio
commentator? We've I don't know

742
00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:42,150
if he played a clip of him
before but we

743
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:47,130
let me give you an alternative
scenario. And by the way, Mr.

744
00:43:47,130 --> 00:43:47,520
Sandwich

745
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,770
I mean that that's what's in the
book. I don't know what Hanks is

746
00:43:49,770 --> 00:43:50,190
going to do.

747
00:43:50,730 --> 00:43:54,240
alternative scenario Mr. Silicon
in the chat room who said oh my

748
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,790
god who cares move on you're
gonna be the first one in the

749
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:59,970
oven. Okay, you're the on the
train in the oven first get

750
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:02,580
back to the story don't Don't be
given us chat rooms.

751
00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:09,720
The the maybe it went down like
this. It Oh my god. And he's no

752
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:12,630
agenda guys are talking about
this book. stop people from

753
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:14,790
reading the book. Hanks Hanks.

754
00:44:15,870 --> 00:44:19,140
Hey, not Clooney. Well, he's

755
00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:24,210
Hollywood establishment. Yeah,
no, no, no, no. distraction from

756
00:44:24,210 --> 00:44:28,650
legal action. Call Hollywood.
Hey, thanks, man. Listen, could

757
00:44:28,650 --> 00:44:31,710
you make this movie about you
know, some jackboot guys bang

758
00:44:31,710 --> 00:44:33,660
and Natalie Portman or
something? Just some people

759
00:44:33,660 --> 00:44:36,030
shouldn't read the book. Okay.

760
00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:38,670
Well, it's so that's

761
00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:41,310
not that's not important. It's
not unthinkable.

762
00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:45,000
No, and the people that always
complain about this when they

763
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,820
see the movie, they read the
book. They go, Oh, it's nothing

764
00:44:47,820 --> 00:44:50,130
like the book. Actually. Nobody
reads the book.

765
00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:52,290
Exactly. Exactly.

766
00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:55,680
Here's what's worse about that
kind of thing. If you think

767
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,790
about it, here's the psychology.
Hanks puts a dynamite movie not

768
00:44:59,790 --> 00:45:02,100
dying. and might not see movie
together important getting

769
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:05,970
screwed by these jackbooted
thugs. And she's loving it. And

770
00:45:06,030 --> 00:45:08,190
people cause it. There's nothing
like the book is more than I

771
00:45:08,190 --> 00:45:10,260
don't want to read the book.
movie was great.

772
00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:15,330
They win either way, whether the
movies a dog or not. Well, the

773
00:45:15,330 --> 00:45:19,080
important thing that the
takeaway from this is, Tom Hanks

774
00:45:19,110 --> 00:45:23,460
is going to wind up giving you
information and giving the world

775
00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:26,220
information that no matter how
it turns out, people will not

776
00:45:26,220 --> 00:45:29,760
read this book. And he's getting
he has a $50 million budget for

777
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,180
it. We, on the other hand, will
produce the best podcast in the

778
00:45:33,180 --> 00:45:36,660
universe. And we have zero
budget. Well, not true. We have

779
00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:40,980
producers who care about what
we're putting on the air. And I

780
00:45:40,980 --> 00:45:43,740
think we should thank our
executive producers very similar

781
00:45:43,740 --> 00:45:47,490
to when this movie comes out.
You'll see people up there you

782
00:45:47,490 --> 00:45:50,580
know, John F. Kerry, you know,
they have all the all the people

783
00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:53,670
that helped out on the movie,
we'll have some, you know, some

784
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,520
Holocaust experts, but then
we'll have the money people,

785
00:45:56,580 --> 00:45:59,910
Harvey Weinstein. Now, these are
the people that are going to be

786
00:45:59,910 --> 00:46:03,330
financing the movie you know,
say executive producer, Harvey

787
00:46:03,330 --> 00:46:06,900
Weinstein, Associate Executive
Producer, Harvey, Weinstein's,

788
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:10,530
kid, brother, all that it just
goes on and on and on and on. I

789
00:46:10,530 --> 00:46:16,440
don't think he's married
actually. Ah, so we have our

790
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,730
version of that. And these are
the people that keep the show on

791
00:46:20,730 --> 00:46:25,440
the air by enabling us to do the
show. I am I talking long enough

792
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:26,760
to bring up the spreadsheet?
Well, you

793
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:32,640
know, here's the problem. So I
got a spreadsheet error, oh,

794
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,450
really excels unopened, able to
open the file by repairing or

795
00:46:36,450 --> 00:46:39,840
removing the unreadable content.
And it gives a bunch of

796
00:46:39,870 --> 00:46:42,990
unreadable parts. So all I do is
I'll have it on mine is column

797
00:46:42,990 --> 00:46:46,200
B, and a list of numbers. Do you
have a spreadsheet? They don't

798
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:46,980
actually read? Yeah,

799
00:46:47,009 --> 00:46:49,289
I do. I do. i What's

800
00:46:49,290 --> 00:46:52,200
wrong with mine, I read in. And
I also wish I want to mention

801
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,800
this to Eric. But I want to
mention it to everybody. If

802
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,740
you're running newer versions of
any of these prod any of these

803
00:46:58,740 --> 00:47:03,900
windows products, don't send out
the x version. Like for the

804
00:47:03,930 --> 00:47:07,560
spreadsheets, send out an XLS.
If you've got a doc file, people

805
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,180
do this all the time, they send
out the doc x. Now only people

806
00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:15,510
with the newest versions of
these programs can read doc X,

807
00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:20,010
man, man, I can read it as XLS x
on this machine, by the way, but

808
00:47:20,010 --> 00:47:21,630
if for some reason it's not
coming in,

809
00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:25,410
can I can I kind of give you
some data points? Yes, number

810
00:47:25,410 --> 00:47:30,930
one, you can open the X
versions, I use Open Office and

811
00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:35,160
it opens all x versions of
everything. Beautifully. When

812
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,460
Eric sent the spreadsheet this
morning, it said in the email it

813
00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:42,360
said I have stopped using
Windows eight I have moved to

814
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:48,120
Linux. There could be errors in
the spreadsheet. I opened the

815
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,410
spreadsheet on Open Office on
the Mac no problems. Can you oh

816
00:47:52,410 --> 00:47:56,010
can you try opening it in Open
Office? And I encourage and I'm

817
00:47:56,190 --> 00:48:00,120
I encourage Eric not to use
Microsoft products so I'm all

818
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,360
for it. And it opened fine and
works perfectly in Open Office.

819
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,070
So I don't understand why it's
an

820
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:07,890
egg would work in Microsoft
because it's supposed to be

821
00:48:07,890 --> 00:48:08,910
compatible. Oh, of

822
00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:12,630
course it won't. Microsoft is
just not compatible. They their

823
00:48:13,110 --> 00:48:15,060
their job and you are you
running eight?

824
00:48:16,290 --> 00:48:17,220
I'm running seven.

825
00:48:17,730 --> 00:48:19,530
Do you want to just try Open
Office?

826
00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:23,130
I don't know that I have open
office on this on this Windows

827
00:48:23,130 --> 00:48:25,740
machine because I tried to keep
stuff off this machine because

828
00:48:25,740 --> 00:48:28,740
it's a podcasting machine. Let
me see really

829
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:33,510
does it have? Does it have a
little sticker? Yes it does. And

830
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:39,000
podcasting machine only hands
off. Um, while soon you will

831
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,950
have the ultimate podcast device
and you will only need the

832
00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:46,080
computer for spreadsheets.

833
00:48:46,860 --> 00:48:49,320
Excel was able to open the file
by repairing or removing the

834
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,460
unreadable content. Go ahead
just say yes and still check

835
00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:54,870
views listing rip

836
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:57,870
Do you mind if I do you mind if
I just read the you're gonna

837
00:48:57,870 --> 00:49:01,920
have to because I can't. Okay,
why don't you find a sir Eric's

838
00:49:01,950 --> 00:49:08,100
note of Minnesota knots
apparently sent you an email or

839
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:15,480
no. I'll start though with Sir.
David R. Foley, black Baron of

840
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:24,480
Silicon Valley who comes in with
a very apropos $777.33 He knows

841
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,780
how to send us a message that's
for sure. And he's from Los

842
00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:30,120
Gatos, California in the
morning, Adam, John please keep

843
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,830
that no agenda karma coming my
way as my stock doubled after

844
00:49:34,830 --> 00:49:40,470
your last dose. So we are happy
to tell the Baron of Silicon

845
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:43,620
Valley to bend over because here
comes another dose of karma.

846
00:49:43,770 --> 00:49:50,460
You've got karma. That is
fantastic as a measure of

847
00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:55,110
support for the program. Then we
have sir Eric of Minnesota knots

848
00:49:55,110 --> 00:50:00,090
who I believe this was meant
for. I'm saying ain't

849
00:50:00,090 --> 00:50:02,610
gonna say the fourth he wanted
to get it in, but it just showed

850
00:50:02,610 --> 00:50:04,680
up at the post office box on
Saturday

851
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:10,440
five, so he does five to 774.
But I'm gonna give him five to

852
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,740
eight club member. Because if
you round it up, it's five to

853
00:50:13,740 --> 00:50:15,360
eight. And you have a note from
him.

854
00:50:15,930 --> 00:50:21,000
Yeah, he says, Here's some
money. Right. That's it. And

855
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,520
Bob, by the way, I want to
mention this. He's actually

856
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,450
somewhat famous and where are
you where he's from? But what he

857
00:50:27,450 --> 00:50:31,080
did was he is a very cute little
letter and it's got a seal. You

858
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,290
use the no agenda. Oh, our
ceiling, our ceiling, the

859
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,610
envelope and then inside and his
little note, he's got the seal

860
00:50:38,610 --> 00:50:42,180
again. Really? That's cool. He's
using that wax.

861
00:50:42,810 --> 00:50:46,680
I think I use my wax up pretty
quick. I did that for a while.

862
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:51,930
Okay, I'm gonna put my signet
ring in there. Perfect. Sir Mark

863
00:50:51,930 --> 00:50:55,650
Dytham of Tokyo. Of course, we
have Sir Mark and de mastered

864
00:50:55,650 --> 00:50:58,020
who have been longtime
supporters of the show. Both of

865
00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:04,620
them are extremely famous in, in
in Japan. And Sir Mark says,

866
00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:08,970
What can we say you are already
the only news source we listen

867
00:51:08,970 --> 00:51:13,110
to. We just cannot bear to
listen to anything else. I'm

868
00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:16,800
doing my sums. He's British. It
looks like I can proudly call

869
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,150
myself Baron of Tokyo territory
will happily be the slave under

870
00:51:21,150 --> 00:51:24,570
the Viscountess Astrid of Tokyo.
Needless to say, I need to

871
00:51:24,570 --> 00:51:28,590
upgrade quickly to VI count. I'm
sorry vi count. So I can get by

872
00:51:28,590 --> 00:51:33,480
and we'll start by donating
$333.33 today. I was in Beijing

873
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,230
Friday night. Did you see the
note with the with the bottle?

874
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,040
I just need to know what the
bottle is. I was thinking

875
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,450
of slipping this bottle of
Chateau Latour. 1981 into a bag

876
00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:48,660
for John to auction off.
However, it was a six liter

877
00:51:48,660 --> 00:51:53,580
bottle. This thing was beautiful
that it was opened. The cork was

878
00:51:53,580 --> 00:51:55,050
off and people were drinking it.

879
00:51:55,590 --> 00:51:58,800
Yeah, well, six liter bottle is
a Imperial.

880
00:51:59,460 --> 00:52:02,940
Right. That's got to be an
$8,000 bottle of wine.

881
00:52:03,330 --> 00:52:08,190
There's anyone Latour. Yeah,
more? No, it's a six litre of AD

882
00:52:08,190 --> 00:52:12,060
when the tours probably say
probably about $1,000 at

883
00:52:12,060 --> 00:52:16,320
least as we ended up. Okay, so
6000 Big deal.

884
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,320
All adds up.

885
00:52:19,350 --> 00:52:25,590
He says we ended up drinking it.
The whole bottle. Yeah. That's

886
00:52:25,620 --> 00:52:30,600
that's that's our audience. I
love it. Good to see Sir Mark.

887
00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:35,670
Oh, hello. Damien Rothschild

888
00:52:37,860 --> 00:52:39,750
apparently is the Baron of
Tokyo.

889
00:52:40,170 --> 00:52:44,760
Welcome to Tokyo which I own and
as you said hello to VI counters

890
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:52,260
damn Astrid. If you don't you
clap you and irons. Love you. I

891
00:52:52,260 --> 00:52:56,190
love you guys. We'll make sure
we we attach the proper title to

892
00:52:56,190 --> 00:52:59,850
you, Baron of Tokyo. That's
great.

893
00:53:00,630 --> 00:53:04,080
You know, I'm thinking that if
Eric, what you just did, he sent

894
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,120
me the XLS file. Yeah. Because
with these open office systems,

895
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,870
all these other ones. They I
think that perfect works fine

896
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:16,800
words because the Microsoft is
really screwed with things with

897
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,400
this x thing? Yeah, because they
did it with Doc x, which I still

898
00:53:20,430 --> 00:53:24,000
moan and groan about. Okay, so
he's got the I got the thing

899
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:29,820
now. You all good? Well, not
really. Because I have David

900
00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:33,900
Foley at the top HW Smith and
Dame Francine Hardaway he sent

901
00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:35,280
me the last week's or

902
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:37,350
that's not the right one.

903
00:53:37,410 --> 00:53:40,110
That's 526 Eric That's not
what's okay.

904
00:53:40,140 --> 00:53:44,340
I will continue to work things
out. John Reichert. I think it

905
00:53:44,340 --> 00:53:51,870
is ri ch er T from New Orleans.
This is also a 33333 donation.

906
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,050
This should put me overnight
level could use some heartbreak

907
00:53:55,050 --> 00:53:58,650
karma ha Are there any New
Orleans area female listeners

908
00:53:58,650 --> 00:54:03,450
out there looking for love from
a night? Jesus? That's sad he

909
00:54:03,450 --> 00:54:07,200
adds to his note. Well, John, we
will be knighting you today and

910
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,050
I would just have to use my
regular line which is send

911
00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:15,510
pictures we'll see if we can
hook Yep. They're in in New

912
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:19,710
Orleans and a little bit of
heartbreak karma for you. You've

913
00:54:19,710 --> 00:54:26,040
got karma sir Dr. Sharkey is
back once again. He is really on

914
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:31,140
a roll and in fact today's
donation of 3333 three shouldn't

915
00:54:31,140 --> 00:54:33,720
bring him up to a barren he'd
like to be barren sir Dr.

916
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:38,910
Sharkey, protector of the Great
Smoky Mountains. Oh, cool. I

917
00:54:38,910 --> 00:54:41,910
think that's possible. That's
fine. And he wants to know why

918
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:42,090
the

919
00:54:42,090 --> 00:54:49,020
Smoky Mountains are smoky. No,
there's so many pine trees in

920
00:54:49,020 --> 00:54:53,130
the area and it gets gets a kind
of a hot humidity. That smoke of

921
00:54:53,130 --> 00:54:58,080
the Great Smoky Mountain is all
pollution from evaporating pine

922
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:03,480
tar liquids. Uh, terpenes mostly
that get into this make this

923
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:08,280
mess smoke smog should be called
the Great Smog integration

924
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,770
while he showed me the barren of
the Great's protector of the

925
00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:14,220
Great Smoky Mountains. And he
wants what does he want here? He

926
00:55:14,220 --> 00:55:20,670
wants a magic number LG y ITM
karma okay. That's the magic

927
00:55:20,670 --> 00:55:25,230
number. The magic number

928
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:37,800
you've got karma Baba Mustapha,
or most of our from Clayton

929
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:44,430
North Carolina douchebag that
other guy who was supposed to be

930
00:55:44,430 --> 00:55:51,330
douchebag and I'll do it Sure. I
would have donated more but I

931
00:55:51,330 --> 00:55:57,000
had to buy some magic beans.
From that Alex James from infant

932
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,800
wars. Here the sonic boom from a
hellfire and duck really a

933
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,680
missile traveling faster than
sound will arrive after the

934
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,610
sound of its sonic boom arrives.
Oh, Bogut of clip best podcast

935
00:56:08,610 --> 00:56:12,360
in the universe. Oh, of course.
He's talking about the drone

936
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,740
operator who was on NBC with
that interview and he's saying

937
00:56:16,740 --> 00:56:20,220
this is total bogus madness
because if you if if the guy

938
00:56:20,220 --> 00:56:23,730
hears the sonic boom then the
Hellfire is already up his butt.

939
00:56:24,690 --> 00:56:27,600
You know now that you mentioned
because it's caught off.

940
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:31,980
There are so many things we miss
that people point out I have

941
00:56:32,010 --> 00:56:34,650
no that's that was it? I would
say that that's a that's a mia

942
00:56:34,650 --> 00:56:37,920
culpa. Error on our practice
would be 600 something miles an

943
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,430
hour the booms going to arrive
long after the thing hits.

944
00:56:41,460 --> 00:56:44,580
Yeah, that's that's really dumb
that we missed that one.

945
00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:45,510
Yeah, I

946
00:56:46,650 --> 00:56:50,490
don't know that. Isn't that
annoying when that happens? I

947
00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:52,590
got I got another correction. We
have to talk. We'll do that in a

948
00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:55,590
second first week. And so Bubba
will be an Associate Executive

949
00:56:55,590 --> 00:56:59,370
producer Michael Knight. And
Bubba came in with 250 Thank you

950
00:56:59,370 --> 00:57:03,960
very much, Bob and Michael
nights from Katy, Texas. Also

951
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,840
250 longtime Boehner first time
donor Thank you very much.

952
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,610
Appreciate that. And since
you're in the first time, I want

953
00:57:08,610 --> 00:57:11,070
to give you a bit of karma for
that. Always nice to see the new

954
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:18,030
newbies, John sex tro St.
Peter's Missouri 222. With no

955
00:57:18,030 --> 00:57:24,990
note that I have Keith Brown,
another spring Texas, with $200

956
00:57:24,990 --> 00:57:28,890
will tour will come out to be a
Associate Executive Producer.

957
00:57:28,890 --> 00:57:33,960
And there she is. Dame Astrid
will be Associate Executive

958
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,410
Producer Dear John and Adam de
mastered says your analyses are

959
00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:41,460
top notch lately lately. And
getting better by the day. Over

960
00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:45,030
the years I've become such a no
agenda bot, that I have to

961
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:48,510
remind myself to remain
critical. If all my calculations

962
00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:50,730
are right, please find the
counting below. This should make

963
00:57:50,730 --> 00:57:54,090
me VI, Countess of Tokyo. And I
shall endeavor to bring the

964
00:57:54,090 --> 00:57:57,930
city's giant voice system under
my jurisdiction to allow for the

965
00:57:57,930 --> 00:58:01,170
best podcast in the universe to
be broadcast when the need

966
00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:07,290
arises to awaken the slaves.
Thank you and keep it coming. I

967
00:58:07,290 --> 00:58:09,090
have to say I really love these
two.

968
00:58:11,070 --> 00:58:16,170
Yeah, no the best. It's yeah,
it's good to have them on our

969
00:58:16,170 --> 00:58:16,590
side.

970
00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:21,540
Miss Mickey is doing everything
in her power to get us over to

971
00:58:21,540 --> 00:58:22,110
Tokyo.

972
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,650
She should be able to manage
that. Now I said,

973
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,140
you know, if you have if you can
get a gallery to show you know,

974
00:58:28,140 --> 00:58:30,750
then yeah, then we'll go over. I
mean, we don't have like, just

975
00:58:30,750 --> 00:58:33,000
money to go cat galavanting

976
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:36,990
over there. Yeah, it's an
expensive operation. I mean,

977
00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:40,320
other parts of Japan, which are
nicer to Tokyo is not that I

978
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,370
don't like Tokyo at all. I think
it's too crowded. It's too, too

979
00:58:44,370 --> 00:58:45,000
big.

980
00:58:45,690 --> 00:58:48,150
I've never been there. I've
never been so it's kind of I

981
00:58:48,180 --> 00:58:52,680
have to go see it, you know. And
Mickey lived in Nagasaki for

982
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,890
five years. So she wants to show
me Nagasaki, which sounds like

983
00:58:55,890 --> 00:58:57,300
it's kind of a dynamite place.

984
00:58:58,830 --> 00:59:03,720
Well, Kyoto and Sapporo are the
places that most Americans like

985
00:59:03,779 --> 00:59:04,949
that's where the beer comes
from.

986
00:59:06,180 --> 00:59:10,770
Maybe named after it. All right.
We want to thank all these

987
00:59:10,770 --> 00:59:15,990
people for generously help
helping us on show five to

988
00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:21,330
eight. Want to remind people to
go to dvorak.org/and a challenge

989
00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:24,510
of org.com/and a no agenda
show.com and also no agenda.

990
00:59:24,510 --> 00:59:28,050
nation.com has a donate button
there and click on it. And give

991
00:59:28,050 --> 00:59:32,640
us some some attention for show
a five to nine coming out next

992
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,220
Thursday. And we're going to be
early. I want to remind people

993
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:37,680
are going to be early hour. Oh,

994
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,330
that's right on Thursday. Yes.
Next

995
00:59:39,330 --> 00:59:42,750
Thursday. So people they want to
listen live. They might want to

996
00:59:43,290 --> 00:59:43,740
change,

997
00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:49,860
but we will be at 8am Gitmo
nation West time. That will be

998
00:59:49,890 --> 00:59:56,610
5pm Get my nation East time I
think in the UK and the UK Yeah.

999
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,970
Oh, UK. Yeah, let's get my
nation east. Yeah, right route.

1000
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,350
Keep thinking I have no idea

1001
01:00:01,350 --> 01:00:03,450
I'm just going to wait until you
call me I'm just gonna get up

1002
01:00:03,450 --> 01:00:06,300
real at five and just wait I
have no idea what time it is now

1003
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,690
it's use your whatsapp What time
is it there now banks I

1004
01:00:09,690 --> 01:00:15,420
think I get it I'm just kidding
Yeah vorak.org/n A

1005
01:00:22,530 --> 01:00:25,920
There you go do you hear the
change that now now I can

1006
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,750
remember it. Oh three nine
breaking up I could no Ciriaco

1007
01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:40,050
94530 That's it. It works. Yes
success okay. Of course we need

1008
01:00:40,050 --> 01:00:44,520
you to do this propagator
formula. Our formula is this we

1009
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,860
go out we hit people in the
mouth

1010
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:03,540
you want to make quick mention
of the website, which is now

1011
01:01:03,540 --> 01:01:05,520
part of the no agenda news
network no agenda news

1012
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:10,110
network.com where anyone can add
an RSS feed. So you can it's you

1013
01:01:10,110 --> 01:01:12,510
could have that all of your
Google Reader feeds for all IKEA

1014
01:01:12,510 --> 01:01:17,670
they're probably good. 33 is the
magic number.com where this

1015
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:20,970
currently has 166 articles all
articles that mentioned the

1016
01:01:20,970 --> 01:01:25,110
number 33 are tracked on this
website as a part of the result

1017
01:01:25,110 --> 01:01:27,990
that's cool little masonic
symbol here. It's kind of funny.

1018
01:01:29,550 --> 01:01:31,590
This is an interesting website,
one of our producers put

1019
01:01:31,590 --> 01:01:32,010
together

1020
01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:36,540
I like it. I think it's overdue,
right? Yeah, let's just let's

1021
01:01:36,540 --> 01:01:36,660
have

1022
01:01:36,660 --> 01:01:39,780
a quick little rundown. McDowell
clinches French Open title the

1023
01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:43,620
33 year old more time for
missing women suspects

1024
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,730
interviewed 33 year old man you
Kip is not Tory splinter group

1025
01:01:47,730 --> 01:01:53,550
33% It's interesting. Yeah, it's
it's an idea long, long overdue.

1026
01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:56,310
Very nice. Yeah.

1027
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,570
So there's a couple of things
going on. Just kind of on the

1028
01:02:00,570 --> 01:02:05,340
side here. I have a clip that I
want to play because I'm going

1029
01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:08,250
to be some reference to it
later. But I just you know the

1030
01:02:08,310 --> 01:02:12,600
ever since that guy that the
blimey character Binney, that

1031
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,120
was the NSA whistleblower from
some time ago.

1032
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,740
This is the stellar winds guy.

1033
01:02:18,180 --> 01:02:22,800
Being a bi N anyway. Yeah, this
is something else

1034
01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:27,300
wasn't he? The guy who ran it on
the stellar when he look it up?

1035
01:02:27,330 --> 01:02:30,390
I don't worry about it. Right.
No one cares doesn't anyway,

1036
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:33,330
but anyway, we had it on he gave
me he he's going around giving

1037
01:02:33,330 --> 01:02:38,940
speeches and he talks about he
turned whistleblower on 2000

1038
01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:42,270
When he has something to do Oh,
illegal spying on the public.

1039
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:46,890
Same thing is going on now.
Yeah. So I mean, these guys know

1040
01:02:46,890 --> 01:02:49,620
what the law is. And they see it
being broken and they blow the

1041
01:02:49,620 --> 01:02:53,580
whistle and they get, you know,
thrown in jail by the FBI. I

1042
01:02:53,580 --> 01:02:57,240
want to play this a long clip.
But this is a rundown because

1043
01:02:57,270 --> 01:02:59,610
we're here in the US of people
who have been following this

1044
01:02:59,610 --> 01:03:05,580
worldwide. very notorious
criminal name Whitey Bolger was

1045
01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:10,500
arrested about a year or so ago
in after he went on the run. He

1046
01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:15,660
was running most of the mob
action in Boston, and he's the

1047
01:03:15,690 --> 01:03:18,870
main he's the character that was
played by Jack Nicholson in the

1048
01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:24,510
movie departed. And he was
involved with the FBI as a

1049
01:03:24,510 --> 01:03:26,910
supposedly an informant, which
he denies but he was an

1050
01:03:26,910 --> 01:03:35,190
informant, an FBI, two FBI guys
were indicted for being corrupt.

1051
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:37,770
But it's it seems to me to be
deeper than that when it comes

1052
01:03:37,770 --> 01:03:40,290
to the FBI. And the reason I
bring this up is because it's

1053
01:03:40,290 --> 01:03:45,510
Binney, who says the one mistake
he made as a whistleblower was

1054
01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:49,920
talking to the FBI, because
essentially they railroaded him

1055
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,900
into something that ended up him
being indicted for for espionage

1056
01:03:54,900 --> 01:04:00,150
or whatever. But this this FBI
story, I think, really, the FBI

1057
01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:03,300
needs to be called out when this
reporter discusses the

1058
01:04:03,300 --> 01:04:06,060
operations, especially the
Boston group like this, they

1059
01:04:06,060 --> 01:04:09,840
should be ashamed of themselves.
Why do you Bolger are from the

1060
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,590
wrong side of the tracks that
criminals themselves. There was

1061
01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:16,650
a corrupt FBI agent named John
Morris, who just spent a few

1062
01:04:16,650 --> 01:04:20,430
days on the stand. And these are
nefarious people, and

1063
01:04:20,970 --> 01:04:23,760
particularly the Hitman John
Maharana, who was up there for

1064
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,410
several days. I described one of
my columns that after the first

1065
01:04:28,410 --> 01:04:33,180
two days of his testimony, we
were hit by punishing rains. He

1066
01:04:33,180 --> 01:04:36,540
is such a venial, venal and vile
man who's admitted to murdering

1067
01:04:36,540 --> 01:04:40,320
20 people that it was almost as
if there was a higher power that

1068
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,590
needed to wash us of our having
to listen to this guy. But I

1069
01:04:43,590 --> 01:04:46,800
think the most powerful
testimony over the last two

1070
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,670
weeks have come from ordinary
people. Because there was a myth

1071
01:04:50,700 --> 01:04:53,370
that the government particularly
the FBI, and the justice

1072
01:04:53,370 --> 01:04:56,490
department wanted you except
when it came to Whitey Bolger is

1073
01:04:56,490 --> 01:04:59,970
that he only killed other
criminals. Well, that died on

1074
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,090
waterfront of South Boston with
a man named Michael Donahue in

1075
01:05:03,090 --> 01:05:07,440
1982. And his family has been in
court every day for the last few

1076
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,370
weeks. And yesterday, John
Morris that corrupt FBI agent

1077
01:05:11,490 --> 01:05:15,420
who helped get Michael Donahue
murdered, turn to the family and

1078
01:05:15,420 --> 01:05:19,470
apologize to them. Now that
murder happened 31 years ago,

1079
01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:22,770
and this is the first time
anyone remotely connected to

1080
01:05:22,770 --> 01:05:26,670
this government has apologized
to the Donahue family. As Pat

1081
01:05:26,670 --> 01:05:29,760
Donohue, Michael's widow, who
raised three boys on her own

1082
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,300
after her husband was murdered
with FBI complicity. As she said

1083
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:39,000
to me, it's a little late for an
apology. But and the but if you

1084
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,460
look at the W family, the way
they have been dragged through

1085
01:05:41,460 --> 01:05:45,780
the mud by their own government,
the idea that the FBI got their

1086
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,300
their husband and their father
killed is one thing, but the

1087
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:52,290
Justice Department refused to
apologize to them refused to

1088
01:05:52,290 --> 01:05:54,810
settle with them, drag them
through nine years of

1089
01:05:54,810 --> 01:05:59,160
litigation. And so to see that
apology in the court was one of

1090
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,160
the most emotional moments and
it really had nothing to do with

1091
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,580
testimony. It really wasn't
evidence, it was just a sign of

1092
01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:10,920
emotion and humanity in a place
where that has been sorely

1093
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:11,430
lacking.

1094
01:06:11,550 --> 01:06:13,560
Now, you're gonna have to
explain this to me because I

1095
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,000
kind of lost the plot on it.

1096
01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:20,970
Well, the FBI was in bed with
bolger's the problem, okay. And

1097
01:06:20,970 --> 01:06:23,550
they did it because Bolger had
convinced them and the movie

1098
01:06:23,820 --> 01:06:28,740
pretty much discusses most of
this. They he convinced the FBI

1099
01:06:28,740 --> 01:06:32,340
that he can get a bigger fish at
by convincing them that he was

1100
01:06:32,340 --> 01:06:35,040
not a big fish, but he was a
great, you're going to be a

1101
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,190
great informant for them. And
that's what he did. So he got

1102
01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:41,640
what he managed to do is use the
FBI to get rid of his enemy.

1103
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,580
This is not dissimilar for
what's going on with the Sinaloa

1104
01:06:44,580 --> 01:06:48,720
Cartel, by the way, right now,
as we speak. We're in bed with

1105
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,660
the Sinaloa Cartel thinking we
got some something going on. We

1106
01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:55,380
got it over them. But anyway,
Bolger was an extremely

1107
01:06:55,380 --> 01:06:58,950
intelligent character using the
FBI. And he managed to use the

1108
01:06:58,950 --> 01:07:02,070
FBI, this guy that was murdered,
the citizen was going to be

1109
01:07:02,070 --> 01:07:05,970
like, I forget what his basis
for Bolger winning in dead but

1110
01:07:05,970 --> 01:07:10,530
the FBI essentially set it up.
And then once it was discovered,

1111
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,850
some years back that the FBI was
behind the murder of this

1112
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,800
innocent civilian, the family
went to get some compensation,

1113
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,690
and then the government went
after them.

1114
01:07:23,010 --> 01:07:25,080
That sounds like America. And

1115
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,660
it was just really a disgusting
story that people should look

1116
01:07:27,660 --> 01:07:30,480
into. And then the FBI has never
explained that the Justice

1117
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,690
Department has never liked
Eastlake, the reporter says they

1118
01:07:33,690 --> 01:07:37,290
never even have yet to
apologize. They corrupt FBI guy

1119
01:07:37,290 --> 01:07:40,440
apologize on the stand. But
because I guess he was getting

1120
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,700
badgered by the prosecution. But
whatever the case, it's just a

1121
01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:48,330
really a sad point that this
sort of thing takes place. And I

1122
01:07:48,330 --> 01:07:52,200
think is going on now with the
with the Sinaloa Cartel. We have

1123
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,530
this dissents. There's a bunch
of these law enforcement types

1124
01:07:55,530 --> 01:07:59,700
who have the sense that they're
smarter than the bad guys.

1125
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,690
Because the bad guys are under
educated or whatever. But in

1126
01:08:03,690 --> 01:08:09,150
most cases they're not. And that
this that kind of hubris that is

1127
01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:10,800
that's problematic. I would also

1128
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:17,280
say that most of the recruiting
for for the FBI and the CIA, and

1129
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,090
many of the intelligence
agencies are done at some of the

1130
01:08:21,420 --> 01:08:24,900
most prestigious universities in
the country. And a lot of these

1131
01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:29,400
students are hyped up. I'm sure
you've heard the NSA recruiters

1132
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:35,730
going into universities trying,
trying to get kids to buy into

1133
01:08:35,730 --> 01:08:38,040
their bullcrap. And they weren't
having a Do you hear any of

1134
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:42,090
this? No. Oh, geez. Everyone's
heard this. I can't believe I

1135
01:08:42,090 --> 01:08:43,950
would have clipped it if I
didn't know you hadn't heard it?

1136
01:08:44,010 --> 01:08:46,260
Well, I don't know that. I'd
haven't heard it. But if Yeah,

1137
01:08:46,710 --> 01:08:47,190
no, I don't

1138
01:08:47,190 --> 01:08:49,710
have the clip. But the kids are
basically, you know, they're

1139
01:08:49,710 --> 01:08:51,960
saying, Well, wait a minute,
you're asking us to spy on

1140
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:56,490
Americans like Well, no, no,
we're not really hidden. But

1141
01:08:56,490 --> 01:09:00,150
there's really it's it's
beautiful to listen to. But my

1142
01:09:00,150 --> 01:09:03,420
point being, that these
recruiters come in, they make

1143
01:09:03,420 --> 01:09:07,110
you feel great. They make you
this is what's the Matt Damon

1144
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:11,670
movie that he wrote that he won
the awards for?

1145
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:15,870
Pouring conspiracy?

1146
01:09:16,020 --> 01:09:24,090
No, the first one that Matt and
and Matt and Ben. Yeah. Yeah, I

1147
01:09:24,090 --> 01:09:26,760
can't remember the name of that
one where they also he's genius.

1148
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,750
He's a genius, genius. They
everyone's blowing him to get

1149
01:09:30,750 --> 01:09:33,420
them to work for him. This is
what happens and so the hubris

1150
01:09:33,420 --> 01:09:36,780
is built into the process. Like
oh, yeah, I'm pretty quick. I'm

1151
01:09:36,780 --> 01:09:39,660
good. I should be working. I
should have clearance. Get a

1152
01:09:39,660 --> 01:09:44,190
badge. Get some funky makeup
shoot somebody you get like all

1153
01:09:44,190 --> 01:09:48,720
kinds of passes could challenge
coins. I get a chance

1154
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,840
to get that dough challenge
going to oh, now by the way. Did

1155
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,210
you get anybody out there who
has one or can get one?

1156
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,890
Did you get the NSA challenge
coin?

1157
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,530
Yeah, I did get that challenge.
I was contacting the anonymous

1158
01:09:58,530 --> 01:10:00,570
person who sent it to me by the
MSA

1159
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,700
did it say W A wy?

1160
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,780
On the note? This the same coin
you have but I apparently

1161
01:10:09,780 --> 01:10:15,630
you got to note this A W A wy.
Okay. Did you get a note that

1162
01:10:15,630 --> 01:10:16,230
said that?

1163
01:10:16,770 --> 01:10:20,190
Not that I remember.
Interesting. And that's to go

1164
01:10:20,190 --> 01:10:22,680
get the coin. Anyway stands for

1165
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:23,820
we are watching you

1166
01:10:26,340 --> 01:10:32,940
and have to go get the coin.
It's funny though. Yeah. It's

1167
01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:38,130
hilarious. Yeah. They didn't get
that coin on eBay for $14.95. So

1168
01:10:38,910 --> 01:10:42,270
Wow. Banks are gonna say contact
has dried up.

1169
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,390
The coin. i One is what's the
name of the new guy, the

1170
01:10:45,930 --> 01:10:47,940
Secretary of Defense. What's his
name?

1171
01:10:48,570 --> 01:11:02,220
Hilger. Hold hold. Yeah, it's
dressed in. Dumbo? I know. I

1172
01:11:02,220 --> 01:11:06,180
know who you mean, I know who
you mean, the Secretary of

1173
01:11:06,180 --> 01:11:07,680
Defense. Yeah.

1174
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,940
You can't even get his name or
typing it into Wikipedia.

1175
01:11:12,599 --> 01:11:14,819
What do you mean? Of course you
can. No, I

1176
01:11:14,820 --> 01:11:15,960
mean, you Chuck Hagel.

1177
01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:17,550
That's what I said Hagel.

1178
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:22,470
Who's the guy that's the head of
the CIA then? Well, whatever we

1179
01:11:22,470 --> 01:11:25,980
either the CIA guy, the new CIA
or Hegel, I think is Hegel. They

1180
01:11:25,980 --> 01:11:29,100
have their own challenge coin.
is not as though it's like the

1181
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:33,720
kind of the one you have with
the signed some. Yeah, I get a

1182
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,090
signature, but this one doesn't
even say that what they're

1183
01:11:36,090 --> 01:11:38,460
doing. It's just their coin. I
think we should have individual

1184
01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:41,160
coins. Uh, Adam curry challenge
coin.

1185
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:44,880
Yeah. Okay, that's we need more.
We need more annoying things

1186
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,130
that have to send through the
mail. This is a great idea. I

1187
01:11:47,130 --> 01:11:49,770
can't do it. We're not gonna do
it anyway. So just just throw it

1188
01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:52,650
out. Throw this stuff out. You
should. We got an email from

1189
01:11:52,650 --> 01:11:54,930
some guy. Do you have the email?
That guy says that he used to

1190
01:11:54,930 --> 01:11:57,780
work for Alec? And he believes

1191
01:11:57,810 --> 01:12:03,630
Yes. And I found this to be very
interesting. So Alec stands for?

1192
01:12:04,050 --> 01:12:06,390
What is it? The abbreviation of
it's the

1193
01:12:06,420 --> 01:12:10,410
American the legislature
exchanged? Some

1194
01:12:10,650 --> 01:12:13,530
right and essentially, oh,
again, there are Bill mill,

1195
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,920
essentially what they do Bill
mill is they Yeah, is they sit

1196
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,060
around and they and they

1197
01:12:18,060 --> 01:12:21,360
wait for legislative exchange
council,

1198
01:12:21,389 --> 01:12:23,909
right. They sit around and they
wait for an opportunity where

1199
01:12:23,909 --> 01:12:28,439
they think they can deliver the
goods to their members, which

1200
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,989
are essentially large
corporations. And then they

1201
01:12:30,989 --> 01:12:34,979
draft legislation and through
their donations and their

1202
01:12:34,979 --> 01:12:39,539
systems and through lobbying.
They get the legislation entered

1203
01:12:39,539 --> 01:12:42,689
enacted or you know, sometimes
pass enacted a study by state,

1204
01:12:42,779 --> 01:12:45,839
state by state and he sent a
note and said, Look, I used to

1205
01:12:45,839 --> 01:12:49,349
work for Alec and I think that
you're onto something here with

1206
01:12:49,349 --> 01:12:51,809
this abortion legislation and
being the same in all these

1207
01:12:51,809 --> 01:12:55,469
different states, including
Texas and North Carolina. And

1208
01:12:55,469 --> 01:12:59,069
not only is the legislation
eerily similar when it comes to

1209
01:12:59,069 --> 01:13:03,449
the the the level of
sophistication the clinics will

1210
01:13:03,449 --> 01:13:07,589
have to have. But it was also
introduced in a stealthy way

1211
01:13:07,589 --> 01:13:11,219
here in Texas in a special
session, which is weird,

1212
01:13:11,609 --> 01:13:14,399
certainly for something as
controversial as this and in

1213
01:13:14,399 --> 01:13:18,149
North Carolina was attached to
some bill that was about banning

1214
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:22,529
Sharia law. So it's kind of
being introduced stealthily. And

1215
01:13:22,529 --> 01:13:27,329
I went and looked and lo and
behold, this legislation called

1216
01:13:27,329 --> 01:13:33,359
the man I got it here. It's
something like the the the right

1217
01:13:33,359 --> 01:13:41,159
the something about the clinics
is was written for Republicans

1218
01:13:41,399 --> 01:13:46,409
to introduce. And and you know,
my theory is Yeah, because

1219
01:13:46,409 --> 01:13:49,769
somehow the next step is to
figure out how how to use public

1220
01:13:49,769 --> 01:13:53,309
funds for it to give to the
insurance companies or to

1221
01:13:53,309 --> 01:13:56,759
Medicaid and it'll be a bonanza
and your $500, abortion will go

1222
01:13:56,759 --> 01:14:01,649
to 5000. And you can just count
out the money. It's going to be

1223
01:14:01,649 --> 01:14:02,279
huge.

1224
01:14:03,660 --> 01:14:08,250
It's about the money. So it
turns out I have a clip. It

1225
01:14:08,250 --> 01:14:11,550
turns out that Alex has all
kinds of

1226
01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:15,360
preborn pain act that's what
it's called the pre pre born

1227
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:16,350
pain act.

1228
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,150
Alec is behind all the stuff
that you do every single can

1229
01:14:21,150 --> 01:14:23,850
take photos. They're the Antifa
they're the ones that are

1230
01:14:23,940 --> 01:14:27,300
working on legislation so you
can't take photos of wrongdoing

1231
01:14:27,570 --> 01:14:30,930
especially in the in the food
business.

1232
01:14:31,020 --> 01:14:35,160
Oh right. Well, you can take
pictures of of cows being led to

1233
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,160
slaughter and the chicken houses
that kind of legislation.

1234
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,070
Yeah, well here with let me play
two clips and I'll play the Alec

1235
01:14:41,070 --> 01:14:44,790
clip. Yes, exactly. Play the
first start with the Amy Myers

1236
01:14:44,790 --> 01:14:45,420
story.

1237
01:14:46,590 --> 01:14:47,970
Okay, do you need to lead in.

1238
01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:51,720
Now we had just a strip woman
that was arrested for taking

1239
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,290
photos and they'd luckily a
bunch of social media got her

1240
01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:57,450
out of prison or out of out of
jail

1241
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:03,270
example of this of how toxic
sunshine is, to this industry

1242
01:15:03,270 --> 01:15:06,540
into these bills is the first
prosecution, which happened in

1243
01:15:06,540 --> 01:15:08,940
Utah. This was the first
prosecution under any of this

1244
01:15:08,940 --> 01:15:14,460
legislation. A woman named Amy
Meyer was charged for filming a

1245
01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:19,110
slaughterhouse from the public
easement. She went to this place

1246
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:23,070
because she knew abuse was
happening, she heard that cows

1247
01:15:23,070 --> 01:15:25,920
were being pushed around by
bulldozers, much like that

1248
01:15:26,010 --> 01:15:28,440
situation that led to the
largest meat recall in US

1249
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:32,520
history. So she had a reasonable
interest in seeing what was

1250
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,520
happening. I have a video I'll
be putting up in the next couple

1251
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,750
of days on my site. But it
shows, you know, heavy equipment

1252
01:15:39,780 --> 01:15:44,070
using Moving the stick animals.
And she was charged under this

1253
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:49,140
legislation. And so I wrote an
article about it, I put it up on

1254
01:15:49,140 --> 01:15:52,320
my own website. And within 24
hours, it was getting hundreds

1255
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:57,600
of 1000s of views, went up on
Reddit and brought the site down

1256
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,320
because it was getting several
100 unique visitors a second for

1257
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:05,040
several hours. So within 24
hours after this, it just made

1258
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,860
the rounds everywhere. I know
that word viral doesn't mean a

1259
01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:10,770
whole lot anymore. I think this
legitimately went viral pretty

1260
01:16:10,770 --> 01:16:13,710
fast. The prosecutor was like
we're gonna drop all the

1261
01:16:13,710 --> 01:16:18,240
charges. So think about what
that reflects. I mean, this is

1262
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,510
criminal activity up until the
point people know what's going

1263
01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:24,330
on it get pissed off about it.
And then it's Oh, no, no, no,

1264
01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:27,480
no, we didn't mean to do that.
Amy Myers not going to be

1265
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:28,110
prosecuted.

1266
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,350
But this is tells me is that the
guys are putting laws on the

1267
01:16:34,350 --> 01:16:37,500
books, just to screw with
people. But if there isn't

1268
01:16:37,530 --> 01:16:41,250
enough people find out about it.
There's such an outrage that

1269
01:16:41,250 --> 01:16:43,770
these guys back off real quick,
which means these are really,

1270
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,890
really sketchy laws that
shouldn't even be on the books

1271
01:16:46,890 --> 01:16:50,490
and somehow some buddy rammed
them through play this other

1272
01:16:50,490 --> 01:16:52,860
one, which is no photos of
farmers.

1273
01:16:54,450 --> 01:17:00,030
Okay, stuck here moment. Sorry,
here we

1274
01:17:00,030 --> 01:17:04,380
go closed doors. So the response
to these damning investigations

1275
01:17:04,380 --> 01:17:08,760
by industry has not been to
change animal welfare standards,

1276
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,510
or to change the most abusive
practices. It's meant to outlaw

1277
01:17:12,510 --> 01:17:16,350
the people who are exposing
them. So last year, there were

1278
01:17:16,350 --> 01:17:20,010
10 Bill bills introduced that
specifically criminalize

1279
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,650
undercover investigations of
factory farms and

1280
01:17:22,650 --> 01:17:26,190
slaughterhouses that include
language, which I'll talk about

1281
01:17:26,190 --> 01:17:29,610
in a moment, a moment about
banning foot photography,

1282
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,450
banning videotape, and enhanced
criminal penalties for that.

1283
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,440
There's actually passed in
several states in Iowa, Utah and

1284
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:40,080
Missouri, which are green on
this map here. Yeah, we've

1285
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,050
talked about that a couple of
times. Alright, so now play a

1286
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:44,760
clip. Y'all heard

1287
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,730
of ALEC, the American
Legislative Exchange Council,

1288
01:17:47,730 --> 01:17:51,300
it's kind of a kind of a well
known group, especially in

1289
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:56,550
conferences like this. Alec in
2003, drafted a piece of model

1290
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:59,610
legislation called the animal
and ecological Terrorism Act.

1291
01:18:00,810 --> 01:18:03,510
And Alec, for those of you who
don't know, it's a corporate

1292
01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:05,910
front group. And the way it
operates is corporations give

1293
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:09,780
10s of 1000s of dollars to the
organization. And in exchange

1294
01:18:09,780 --> 01:18:12,480
for that they get a seat at the
table in drafting model

1295
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:15,930
legislation. And then those
model bills are taken back by

1296
01:18:15,930 --> 01:18:19,740
state lawmakers around the
country and introduce where

1297
01:18:19,740 --> 01:18:22,470
their colleagues have no idea
that they're actually written by

1298
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:27,240
Pfizer, Wyatt GlaxoSmithKline.
And its association exactly what

1299
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:31,800
Santo and Ron the union busting
bills in Wisconsin, where Alec

1300
01:18:31,860 --> 01:18:34,740
the standard ground bills in
Florida. So this animal and

1301
01:18:34,740 --> 01:18:38,700
ecological Terrorism Act was
written by these industries. And

1302
01:18:38,700 --> 01:18:42,060
the model bill includes things
like undercover investigations.

1303
01:18:42,750 --> 01:18:45,090
It also includes really
dangerous language about

1304
01:18:45,090 --> 01:18:49,290
materially or financially
supporting people who are doing

1305
01:18:49,290 --> 01:18:52,740
things like this in order to
encourage plan, prepare, carry

1306
01:18:52,740 --> 01:18:56,370
out, publicize or promote these
activities. This kind of

1307
01:18:56,370 --> 01:18:59,400
material support language is not
just about undercover

1308
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,790
investigators. It's not just
about arsonists, or the Animal

1309
01:19:02,790 --> 01:19:05,880
Liberation Front. It's about
people like us, I mean, that

1310
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,450
make absolutely no mistake about
the intent of this language.

1311
01:19:09,450 --> 01:19:13,650
It's about people who are
sharing this information online

1312
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,280
and writing about it and people
like me who are speaking out in

1313
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:21,270
defense of political prisoners.
This all has to be viewed in

1314
01:19:21,300 --> 01:19:25,770
this post 911 context. This is
from a Freedom of Information

1315
01:19:25,770 --> 01:19:29,550
Act document obtained from the
FBI that says the bureau was

1316
01:19:29,550 --> 01:19:32,610
actually considering terrorism
prosecutions against undercover

1317
01:19:32,610 --> 01:19:37,410
investigators as far back as
2003. This was even before new

1318
01:19:37,410 --> 01:19:39,960
legislation called the Animal
Enterprise Terrorism Act was

1319
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:44,670
passed. Again, this isn't about
property destruction. It's not

1320
01:19:44,670 --> 01:19:49,890
about arson is about people
taking photographs. This is from

1321
01:19:49,890 --> 01:19:54,990
another FOIA request. These were
presentations given by the FBI

1322
01:19:55,020 --> 01:19:59,970
to new FBI special agents. This
is one page on animal rights and

1323
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,860
Echo activists, and notice the
emphasis on information about

1324
01:20:04,860 --> 01:20:08,670
them being engaged in a public
relations war, how media is

1325
01:20:08,670 --> 01:20:12,240
vital to every part of their
campaigns. God forbid media

1326
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:16,230
sometimes is even slanted in
their favor. And sometimes they

1327
01:20:16,230 --> 01:20:20,910
use celebrities. This rhetoric,
in addition to being a top FBI

1328
01:20:20,910 --> 01:20:25,470
priority of terrorism threat,
it's also been embraced by

1329
01:20:25,470 --> 01:20:29,850
corporations and of course,
politicians, when that meat

1330
01:20:29,850 --> 01:20:34,560
recall happened in California,
and soon after, another

1331
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,130
investigation shut down a
slaughterhouse. The industry put

1332
01:20:38,130 --> 01:20:42,510
pressure on local lawmakers,
members of Congress, who in turn

1333
01:20:42,510 --> 01:20:45,810
sent a letter to the USDA, in
which they said undercover

1334
01:20:45,810 --> 01:20:49,410
investigations were an act of
quote, economic terrorism.

1335
01:20:49,769 --> 01:20:55,979
Okay, help me understand it so
far, it sounds pretty much like

1336
01:20:55,979 --> 01:21:01,049
the American way. I'm not quite
sure how the FBI gets sucked

1337
01:21:01,049 --> 01:21:01,709
into this.

1338
01:21:02,190 --> 01:21:04,830
I don't know how they got sucked
into it either. But apparently,

1339
01:21:04,830 --> 01:21:09,090
the these guys have put together
packages these industry industry

1340
01:21:09,090 --> 01:21:12,270
guys have put together these
packages. And they make such a

1341
01:21:12,330 --> 01:21:16,470
this is lobbyists. Yeah. And
they make such a fuss that the

1342
01:21:16,770 --> 01:21:21,030
legislative branch of the
government tells the FBI or

1343
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:23,940
gives them a clip, you know,
they'd like to arrest everyone

1344
01:21:24,870 --> 01:21:27,870
says, Look, this is terrorism.
And they make the argument that

1345
01:21:27,870 --> 01:21:31,680
it's terrorism. These guys and
these are the various angles.

1346
01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:36,420
This guy came onto our facility
at posing as a as a worker, and

1347
01:21:36,420 --> 01:21:39,630
all he did was take pictures,
and then he exposed us. This is

1348
01:21:39,630 --> 01:21:41,580
terrorism. He's they're
terrorizing they're hurting

1349
01:21:41,610 --> 01:21:45,270
business. They're hurting the
bottom line. And now we take it

1350
01:21:45,270 --> 01:21:48,120
to another extreme, which is the
one that really bothers me. Oh,

1351
01:21:48,150 --> 01:21:51,210
did you read this that these
guys wrote? They wrote in

1352
01:21:51,210 --> 01:21:55,710
defense of this guy who was
working for us taking pictures

1353
01:21:55,710 --> 01:22:00,180
and making us look bad to he's
he's a terrorist is this writer?

1354
01:22:00,690 --> 01:22:04,350
Yeah, seriously, this is where
this is all headed. Yes. And

1355
01:22:04,380 --> 01:22:09,690
ALEC is and you brought this you
discovered this by bringing up

1356
01:22:09,690 --> 01:22:13,410
the abortion deal. And then
having the our guy come in with

1357
01:22:13,410 --> 01:22:16,860
the aleck note notation which I
forgot all about Alec. Yeah, me

1358
01:22:16,860 --> 01:22:20,250
too. And then I coincidentally
listening to C span caught this

1359
01:22:20,250 --> 01:22:23,580
little Alec clip. And I'm
thinking this is this needs to

1360
01:22:23,580 --> 01:22:25,410
be exposed. This is horrible.

1361
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:28,530
But a lot of people are trying
to expose Alec I think that's

1362
01:22:28,530 --> 01:22:33,840
pretty futile because it is it
is the biggest companies on

1363
01:22:34,230 --> 01:22:38,910
board makes me kind of laugh. Is
that it? In many ways it plays

1364
01:22:38,910 --> 01:22:41,760
right into what people actually
want and the end their anger and

1365
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:47,010
outrage is being used to get
what they think they want. And

1366
01:22:47,010 --> 01:22:51,060
let me elaborate. Oh, man, we
had so we had another dinner

1367
01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:56,400
with one of our average first or
before after dinner. It's a part

1368
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,550
of it. Okay, it's a part of the
dinner. We will wrap it up.

1369
01:22:59,550 --> 01:23:02,730
Yeah, the reason why. Okay, so
I'm going to jump around in the

1370
01:23:02,730 --> 01:23:06,270
dinner. There were two so this
is the Obama bought dinners that

1371
01:23:06,270 --> 01:23:11,430
we have which are turning out to
be this our table mates are

1372
01:23:11,490 --> 01:23:14,460
moving away from Obama botanists
and I've got to be careful

1373
01:23:14,460 --> 01:23:17,340
because you know, once they're
converted will be no more fun.

1374
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,260
And why cuz dad? Got three,
isn't it this group? test group

1375
01:23:22,260 --> 01:23:22,620
three,

1376
01:23:22,650 --> 01:23:26,490
this is the original group to
the test group. Yes, this is

1377
01:23:26,490 --> 01:23:33,120
test specimens A, we have a
Lorien mark. And then we have

1378
01:23:33,210 --> 01:23:38,490
Ross and his wife, Jennifer and
Russia will recall is the

1379
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:43,320
professor of brain shit here at
University of Texas. He's a he's

1380
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:47,580
a brain professor. Now he's, I
guess technically his boss, the

1381
01:23:47,580 --> 01:23:51,030
chair of the Psychology
Department of University of

1382
01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:54,810
Texas joined our group. And by
the way, how cool is this? That

1383
01:23:54,810 --> 01:23:57,960
a drop out this jockey gets to
argue with these people for

1384
01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,790
free? Like no tuition.

1385
01:24:00,690 --> 01:24:04,200
When you have to pay to argue
and I get fed is great. Yeah.

1386
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,390
Well, you you're doing the
cooking this time? No, no, this

1387
01:24:06,390 --> 01:24:09,870
was a Lori's house. No, she did
the cooking. Okay. Yeah. And now

1388
01:24:09,900 --> 01:24:14,010
we'll we'll talk about Jamie
Pennebaker later because Jamie

1389
01:24:14,010 --> 01:24:17,280
is the performative guy. He's
about the you know, he's the

1390
01:24:17,610 --> 01:24:20,790
secret life of pronouns, the
performance, and we heard his

1391
01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:24,750
his tape and I got to talk to
him about that. His wife is Ruth

1392
01:24:24,750 --> 01:24:29,970
Pennebaker. She has written wow,
I think five or six books that

1393
01:24:29,970 --> 01:24:33,720
have been published. She's
written extensively for the New

1394
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:38,760
York Times a lot in the Art
section, but she's a I can I can

1395
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:43,470
say she is a very outspoken
feminist. And to give you an

1396
01:24:43,470 --> 01:24:50,580
idea, she was she's very much.
She talks like a Hummer, like a

1397
01:24:50,580 --> 01:24:55,980
Berkeley Hummer. In fact, she
has that New York Times kind of

1398
01:24:56,010 --> 01:24:59,580
cadence to her. What's
interesting about you, what in

1399
01:24:59,580 --> 01:25:02,760
the milieu Yes, indeed. What's
interesting about Ruth is that

1400
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:07,140
she not only she blogged but she
was at the protest and I think

1401
01:25:07,140 --> 01:25:14,100
she was arrested. Because she
had a coat hanger. Now, Ruth, I

1402
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:17,970
don't know how old she is, and I
don't care to guess, but I will

1403
01:25:17,970 --> 01:25:20,820
say that she is at least two
years older than I am. So that

1404
01:25:20,820 --> 01:25:27,030
would put her at a minimum of
50. And, and I was not about for

1405
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:30,570
single minute going to really
get into my, my personal

1406
01:25:30,570 --> 01:25:35,100
feelings about this issue.
Because I think I probably would

1407
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:38,190
have ruined the night at the get
go towards Marino, you

1408
01:25:38,190 --> 01:25:46,980
have to I, I admire your ability
to manage this, because I tend

1409
01:25:46,980 --> 01:25:50,400
to in these situations, I just I
just clam up. I'm the worst guy

1410
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:51,180
to be at this thing.

1411
01:25:52,380 --> 01:25:54,870
Well, I had done a lot of
homework, I had read their

1412
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:58,140
books. I had read it, you know,
I'd read his book, or read her

1413
01:25:58,140 --> 01:26:00,810
book, or at least one, you know,
her columns. So I already knew

1414
01:26:00,810 --> 01:26:03,510
kind of what I was getting into.
And you can't walk into these

1415
01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:06,480
situations. And think that
because people don't listen,

1416
01:26:06,510 --> 01:26:09,330
this is the main thing. And it
became true. I don't think she

1417
01:26:09,330 --> 01:26:14,220
really heard me. When I did lay
down my, my smack on her. I

1418
01:26:14,220 --> 01:26:15,900
said, Oh, you know, I think this
is great, because I've been

1419
01:26:15,900 --> 01:26:20,040
following this. And it looks to
me, like, you know, this 20

1420
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:24,360
pages of legislation about the
about the clinics. And by the

1421
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,570
way, she had not read the bill.
I will point that out. It's

1422
01:26:27,570 --> 01:26:30,210
like, Oh, that's interesting.
You went to protest something

1423
01:26:30,210 --> 01:26:34,680
you had not read? She? Did you
wear an orange t shirt? Yeah,

1424
01:26:34,710 --> 01:26:36,510
where did it come from? I don't
know, someone's handing them

1425
01:26:36,510 --> 01:26:40,470
out. The Planned Parenthood, who
was handed to us need to know

1426
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:43,230
these things. Because it's, it's
a big money. Planned Parenthood

1427
01:26:43,620 --> 01:26:48,000
has an annual income of $155
million dollars, I checked their

1428
01:26:48,030 --> 01:26:52,410
form 990. So there's a lot of
money involved in, in this

1429
01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:55,410
abortion business. And a lot of
people want it for one reason or

1430
01:26:55,410 --> 01:26:58,830
the other. And I'm not so sure
necessarily about protecting

1431
01:26:58,860 --> 01:27:03,540
unborn life or or protecting a
woman's rights. I'm just not

1432
01:27:03,540 --> 01:27:06,570
convinced I don't, I've never
seen any legislator really give

1433
01:27:06,570 --> 01:27:10,410
a shit about the citizenry, it's
all about money. And I said, I

1434
01:27:10,410 --> 01:27:12,540
think it's going to be a
bonanza, and they're setting it

1435
01:27:12,540 --> 01:27:14,370
up. And we've got this
everywhere in the States. And

1436
01:27:14,370 --> 01:27:17,580
ALEC is the bill mill is writing
this stuff. And it's gonna be

1437
01:27:17,580 --> 01:27:20,760
great poor women everywhere will
be able to get abortions. It's

1438
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,940
just it's gonna be $5,000 bill
to the insurance and ultimately,

1439
01:27:23,940 --> 01:27:27,390
we'll all pay for it. And it's
funny, it really didn't even

1440
01:27:27,390 --> 01:27:31,290
register. I could see it was
just kind of flying by. But

1441
01:27:31,290 --> 01:27:36,510
here's what I learned. Almost no
one at this protest was under

1442
01:27:36,510 --> 01:27:40,920
50. Now, what's wrong with that?

1443
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,310
Yeah. Is that like they're
having babies? Thank you.

1444
01:27:45,390 --> 01:27:51,000
And I kind of probed the little
bit and I said, I'm nowhere in

1445
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,630
the bill, which I actually read,
does it this is later during the

1446
01:27:54,630 --> 01:27:58,620
dinner, not off the bat. I said,
I read the bill. And I had all

1447
01:27:58,620 --> 01:28:01,020
these requirements. But yeah,
that's gonna make it all these.

1448
01:28:01,500 --> 01:28:06,690
All these clinics shut down. I
said, How do you know? Well,

1449
01:28:06,690 --> 01:28:10,560
this fact. Oh, you're accepting
the math. We don't actually know

1450
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,610
the calculation. Yeah, and I
went looking, John, I cannot

1451
01:28:14,610 --> 01:28:19,260
find I see. Graphics, I see
maps, I see maps with pinpoints

1452
01:28:19,260 --> 01:28:21,900
and flashing lights, and you
see, you can use you like 50.

1453
01:28:21,900 --> 01:28:25,410
And then they all go away. And
it's only six left as like,

1454
01:28:25,410 --> 01:28:29,550
okay. But yeah, and then, you
know, this was designed to shut

1455
01:28:29,550 --> 01:28:32,700
down clinics. No, it was
designed to if you'd look at it,

1456
01:28:32,700 --> 01:28:35,790
and this is what I love with
professors at the table. And by

1457
01:28:35,790 --> 01:28:39,150
the way, Mr. Pennebaker had
listened to some of our show,

1458
01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:43,080
and he loves it. He's like, Oh,
you guys are great. I love this.

1459
01:28:43,260 --> 01:28:45,810
Because he actually said, You're
fucking great. I love this shit.

1460
01:28:46,170 --> 01:28:48,780
He believes that when people use
swear words, they're more

1461
01:28:48,780 --> 01:28:53,010
honest. So I think he uses them
a lot. Just gratuitously more

1462
01:28:53,010 --> 01:28:55,380
than most people not
gratuitously but when he really

1463
01:28:55,380 --> 01:28:58,170
wants to accentuate a point he
says it comes across he's an

1464
01:28:58,170 --> 01:29:01,260
expert, he's a linguist, he's
people you're more believable if

1465
01:29:01,260 --> 01:29:04,830
you use swear words. I'm just a
point a small point I want to

1466
01:29:04,830 --> 01:29:08,880
throw out there but when you're
talking to a scientist it's very

1467
01:29:08,910 --> 01:29:11,310
it's great because now I've
learned you can say Oh, really?

1468
01:29:11,340 --> 01:29:14,790
Do you have the calculation? No
said Well, it's actually not in

1469
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:17,970
the bill it nowhere does it say
this bill intends to shut down

1470
01:29:17,970 --> 01:29:23,010
clinics. So you are just making
a you are, you are regurgitating

1471
01:29:23,010 --> 01:29:26,190
talking points of which you have
no scientific or mathematical

1472
01:29:26,190 --> 01:29:31,680
fact. Have you ever seen a
professor Shut up? Because you

1473
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:32,940
just said something like that?

1474
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,880
Well, if you say something like
that, and it's true, they would

1475
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:36,870
shut up now and

1476
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:39,780
then of course Ross the brain
professor. He hands me this

1477
01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:43,440
article about the eat right for
your blood type. Oh, man, I'm

1478
01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:46,680
totally shut down on that. Oh, I
destroyed it.

1479
01:29:48,660 --> 01:29:49,470
Well, I didn't think

1480
01:29:50,340 --> 01:29:53,190
nothing about the whole backs
everything is wrong about it.

1481
01:29:53,190 --> 01:29:56,820
The whole backstory, everything
and he like he must have worked

1482
01:29:56,820 --> 01:29:59,220
for you know, a week on
researching these. I'm gonna get

1483
01:29:59,220 --> 01:30:04,260
this curry I don't care. I'm
gonna find it. No. And he has. I

1484
01:30:04,260 --> 01:30:07,110
put it in the show notes. So I'm
pretty sure that that was a

1485
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:11,640
placebo effect. But ultimately,
yeah, don't don't eat grains,

1486
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,080
you'll be healthier. That's for
sure.

1487
01:30:13,650 --> 01:30:16,140
Yeah, yeah, that's I think,
absolutely true. So

1488
01:30:16,140 --> 01:30:19,680
the main thing is, and this kind
of, to bring it back to ALEC, is

1489
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,190
that there's big money involved
in this particular legislation.

1490
01:30:23,340 --> 01:30:28,320
And I, look, we put in God, we
trust on our money here in

1491
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,380
America, okay, there's a reason
for that the money is bigger

1492
01:30:31,380 --> 01:30:34,740
than God, I'm sorry, I'm just
not buying it. And then when I'm

1493
01:30:34,740 --> 01:30:37,950
seeing all the money that is
being spent, by the way, Wendy

1494
01:30:37,950 --> 01:30:42,000
Davis, who is now being heralded
as the rising political star who

1495
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:45,570
has been born, I looked at her
funding, and you know, it's

1496
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,320
$500,000. From this law firm,
it's all these law firms that

1497
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,890
are expert at suing the
government. And they have, they

1498
01:30:52,890 --> 01:30:56,100
have essentially financed a lot
of what she's been doing in the

1499
01:30:56,100 --> 01:31:01,170
past, in the past year. So
there's a lot of interest in

1500
01:31:01,170 --> 01:31:04,410
this. And again, I thoroughly
believe that it's all going to

1501
01:31:04,410 --> 01:31:08,220
come down to something that is
really going to be Republican

1502
01:31:08,220 --> 01:31:12,780
led, that will be the joke of it
all Republican led, and it will

1503
01:31:12,810 --> 01:31:16,650
bring in some kind of financing
for abortions. And really, we're

1504
01:31:16,650 --> 01:31:21,300
not, we're talking about a very
small amount of actual vaginal

1505
01:31:21,300 --> 01:31:27,780
abortions. Most of this is ru
486. It's a pill it goes in, you

1506
01:31:27,780 --> 01:31:30,270
know, two weeks later,
everything's done. It's

1507
01:31:30,270 --> 01:31:33,840
relatively safe. It's highly
controversial, but it's been

1508
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,780
around for a long time. I don't
think it's in patent anymore.

1509
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,660
And that's what we're really
talking about. And it's right

1510
01:31:39,660 --> 01:31:43,320
now it's 500 bucks, that's too
cheap. You can't really do

1511
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,690
anything with that needs to be
5000. And that

1512
01:31:45,690 --> 01:31:49,080
is the same thing with a lot of
these manufacturing chemists.

1513
01:31:49,470 --> 01:31:54,510
Yes, with the compounders a drug
for the person customized at the

1514
01:31:54,510 --> 01:31:58,080
manufacturers, but it's too
cheap. Yeah, no good. Like why

1515
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,950
should we be selling anyone
drugs that they need to survive

1516
01:32:02,340 --> 01:32:06,630
for like, five bucks a month?
Don't do that himself for 2000 a

1517
01:32:06,630 --> 01:32:08,670
month? Don't do that. This is no
good.

1518
01:32:09,300 --> 01:32:13,650
No, let's just gouge the public.
Especially when that when it's

1519
01:32:13,710 --> 01:32:18,270
when it's kind of a cap, captive
market just gouge them gouge

1520
01:32:18,270 --> 01:32:19,320
gouged out and also

1521
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:23,940
rate but then here, but here's
what the big tip off John. It's

1522
01:32:23,940 --> 01:32:26,310
not actually the women who need
these abortions who were

1523
01:32:26,310 --> 01:32:29,850
protesting. So what does that
tell you? And this is the

1524
01:32:29,850 --> 01:32:33,960
discussion we got and rigged.
Well, it's worse than that. And

1525
01:32:33,990 --> 01:32:37,350
because I did lay a little bit
of because Jennifer who was

1526
01:32:37,350 --> 01:32:39,900
there and now she's protested
this before not this particular

1527
01:32:39,900 --> 01:32:43,200
time, but she's pregnant. And
she's really really angry. You

1528
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,720
know, this whole Get out of my
vagina thing. What are you doing

1529
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:52,140
in my womb, and you and I can
feel a a huge surge of emotion

1530
01:32:52,440 --> 01:32:57,510
that's funneled that's channeled
into this. But it's a lot a lot

1531
01:32:57,510 --> 01:32:59,670
more, you know, it's just you
know, people are crazy these

1532
01:32:59,670 --> 01:33:01,920
days. They're angry, they're
upset, they're pressured by all

1533
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:06,360
kinds of things. But it's a
trigger. And I think this is a

1534
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,660
long this is kind of the
Republican version or maybe it's

1535
01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:11,910
all Democrat. I don't know who
gives a crap which one it is.

1536
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,730
This is only about getting your
vote. It's about getting your

1537
01:33:14,730 --> 01:33:19,470
vote, just like the gun issue.
And and it's about getting the

1538
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:24,900
the upper middle aged woman's
vote. I don't think it's about

1539
01:33:24,900 --> 01:33:28,770
anything else. And it's an to
realize this bill is not really

1540
01:33:28,770 --> 01:33:32,820
forbidding anything. There's no
real change. You're listening to

1541
01:33:32,820 --> 01:33:34,950
talking points and you're
getting riled up and you're

1542
01:33:34,950 --> 01:33:38,610
getting angry and then you're
walking around with coat hangers

1543
01:33:38,610 --> 01:33:40,920
and you're not you don't you
never even tend to get pregnant

1544
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,340
anymore. Do you see that you're
being manipulated all men all

1545
01:33:44,340 --> 01:33:46,110
that that got everyone into a
tizzy.

1546
01:33:46,950 --> 01:33:48,180
Once you said that,

1547
01:33:48,180 --> 01:33:50,490
yes. I had to. I had to

1548
01:33:50,580 --> 01:33:52,740
just but it was late in the
meal. Yes. This way.

1549
01:33:53,309 --> 01:33:58,649
Yes. This was much later in the
meal. Oh, God, I had everyone.

1550
01:33:58,649 --> 01:34:01,229
Oh my god, that was alright. It
was alright. But it was a little

1551
01:34:01,229 --> 01:34:01,499
tan. I

1552
01:34:01,710 --> 01:34:04,920
bet you there's high fives and
some PR agency as we speak.

1553
01:34:05,550 --> 01:34:09,810
Curry data? Yeah. Oh, no. Now,
you know, I'm talking about over

1554
01:34:09,810 --> 01:34:10,500
this event.

1555
01:34:11,370 --> 01:34:16,110
Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, totally,
totally. And if you look at the

1556
01:34:16,140 --> 01:34:20,910
the people involved, it's, I
mean, wow, Cecile Richards, who

1557
01:34:20,910 --> 01:34:25,080
was an Richard's daughter, and
Richards, who was here before

1558
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:29,070
George W. Texas was run by
Democrats, you'd be, you'd be

1559
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:33,210
amazed to know. And she makes
half a million dollars at this

1560
01:34:33,210 --> 01:34:35,610
Planned Parenthood thing. It's a
big operation. And there's all

1561
01:34:35,610 --> 01:34:40,470
kinds of all kinds of things
going on with this. But I really

1562
01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:45,540
have to say it is manipulation
of people, getting them using

1563
01:34:45,540 --> 01:34:49,830
their, their utmost fears and
desires and angers and man you

1564
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:52,440
can get you can get women
really, really angry about this

1565
01:34:52,440 --> 01:34:57,030
issue very easily. And you can't
you can't just say well, I think

1566
01:34:57,030 --> 01:35:00,300
X Y or Z certainly not as a guy,
because then I was Then you're

1567
01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:04,740
just shit. No Did she she you
can actually get beat up over

1568
01:35:04,740 --> 01:35:08,010
this you have to be very, very
careful. So I come back from the

1569
01:35:08,010 --> 01:35:12,420
front saying it was not a pretty
pretty sight. I do need to bring

1570
01:35:12,420 --> 01:35:14,700
you some more reports from this
dinner because there were some

1571
01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:17,610
other interesting things we
discussed a particularly with

1572
01:35:17,670 --> 01:35:23,670
Professor Pennebaker who I was,
you know, you kind of eased into

1573
01:35:23,670 --> 01:35:28,650
it, kinda let them know that I'd
read his book. And I said, you

1574
01:35:28,650 --> 01:35:32,010
know, this performance that was
really quite, quite fantastic.

1575
01:35:32,010 --> 01:35:35,400
And he's just launched into it.
He told everything. No one knew

1576
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,340
what I was talking about except
Mickey. And then so he explained

1577
01:35:38,340 --> 01:35:42,120
explains performative. And for
those who don't know, it's where

1578
01:35:42,270 --> 01:35:45,030
typically a politician will say
things like, let me be clear.

1579
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,420
And then whatever he says after
that doesn't matter, because he

1580
01:35:48,420 --> 01:35:50,460
already told the truth, because
he just wanted to be clear,

1581
01:35:50,460 --> 01:35:53,070
didn't want to tell you the
truth. He was just you

1582
01:35:53,070 --> 01:35:56,010
wanted to be clear, my favorite
while I was thinking about this

1583
01:35:56,010 --> 01:35:59,400
the other day, and I realized
the Kennedys had had a distinct

1584
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,210
one that caught on for a while,
and then it kind of dropped off.

1585
01:36:03,210 --> 01:36:06,300
And it's Ted Kennedy used it but
John Kennedy used to say it all

1586
01:36:06,300 --> 01:36:11,460
the time. And it was this. Let
me say this, about that. That's

1587
01:36:11,460 --> 01:36:15,030
the best one right. I think
that's the best one. This about

1588
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:17,490
that. Yeah, that's a good way
this about that. But what you're

1589
01:36:17,490 --> 01:36:19,530
gonna say next is like could be
anything?

1590
01:36:19,740 --> 01:36:22,410
Well, here's I'll just give you
an example. A recent one from

1591
01:36:22,440 --> 01:36:24,420
Stephen Harper of the Canadians.

1592
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:27,600
And the prime minister is also
defending his actions following

1593
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,600
new revelations in the Senate
expenses scandal. Here's what he

1594
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,450
had to say when asked about the
payment between his former Chief

1595
01:36:33,450 --> 01:36:36,630
of Staff Nigel Wright and
conservative Senator Mike Duffy.

1596
01:36:37,590 --> 01:36:39,750
First of all, let me be very
clear on this I've been clear

1597
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:40,980
clear repeatedly I

1598
01:36:41,759 --> 01:36:45,149
double whammy. I've been clear
repeatedly let me be clear about

1599
01:36:45,149 --> 01:36:47,999
this learned of this on May the
15th. This I learned of this May

1600
01:36:47,999 --> 01:36:50,819
that it just doesn't stop. It's
all performances I learned of

1601
01:36:50,819 --> 01:36:53,549
this. I made this information
available to the public people

1602
01:36:53,549 --> 01:36:59,249
of Canada. So that's basically
what it is. And then I later I

1603
01:36:59,249 --> 01:37:01,769
forget who it was one of our
producers said the presidential

1604
01:37:01,769 --> 01:37:05,519
oath is essentially the biggest
performative because it says I

1605
01:37:05,519 --> 01:37:08,669
hear Dubai solemnly swear that
to the best of my ability, like

1606
01:37:08,699 --> 01:37:11,129
okay, thanks. Good night, go
home. Doesn't matter what you

1607
01:37:11,129 --> 01:37:14,489
say, after that. Pennebaker. I
thought he was going to shit

1608
01:37:14,489 --> 01:37:18,689
himself. He's like, Oh, my God,
I never thought of that one. So

1609
01:37:18,689 --> 01:37:21,749
now I'm on the inside right now.
I'm like, Hey, this is good.

1610
01:37:21,779 --> 01:37:26,249
Tell me some more. He's, and
he's so I want to get into his

1611
01:37:26,249 --> 01:37:29,459
research, which hasn't been
published yet. And he has

1612
01:37:29,459 --> 01:37:33,929
computer programs, and he does a
lot with pronouns. So he has

1613
01:37:33,929 --> 01:37:38,399
computer programs that calculate
the use of certain words, but

1614
01:37:38,399 --> 01:37:44,879
it's the words like I am, we
are, that they're they these

1615
01:37:44,879 --> 01:37:49,349
types of things. And he has
several proven theorems that

1616
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,949
that he can point to. And the
first thing he told me about

1617
01:37:52,949 --> 01:37:57,989
was, you can also see if, if a
right if a writer was male or

1618
01:37:57,989 --> 01:38:03,569
female. And he's done some very
interesting studies, to see how

1619
01:38:03,599 --> 01:38:07,499
good playwrights were at writing
male or female characters, etc.

1620
01:38:08,009 --> 01:38:12,449
And just to give you an example,
all of the female characters in

1621
01:38:12,449 --> 01:38:16,889
Quentin Tarantino movies are
extremely written as extreme

1622
01:38:16,889 --> 01:38:21,329
males. So are those of
Shakespeare. And he has studied

1623
01:38:21,329 --> 01:38:24,239
all the American presidents and
he said about Barack Obama, he

1624
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:28,409
said, is unbelievable. to every
single American president is

1625
01:38:28,409 --> 01:38:32,639
100% Macho male, Barack Obama
could not be more female. He

1626
01:38:32,639 --> 01:38:35,699
says, it's like a woman is
writing his stuff. I said,

1627
01:38:35,699 --> 01:38:41,429
Valerie Jarrett, he didn't get
it. But no, but he says, the way

1628
01:38:41,429 --> 01:38:45,929
he the show, the way he the way
the President talks, speaks,

1629
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,649
it's all very soft, a little
wishy washy, he says it but he's

1630
01:38:49,649 --> 01:38:54,179
doing it with scientific with,
with word counts. And yeah,

1631
01:38:54,180 --> 01:38:56,550
there are a lot of there's
actually a bunch of computer

1632
01:38:56,550 --> 01:39:00,090
programs that attempt to do
this, and you can run, I've run

1633
01:39:00,090 --> 01:39:03,360
professional writers copy
through a bunch of these

1634
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:08,220
systems. And you can find, you
can, you can always spot a

1635
01:39:08,220 --> 01:39:12,870
female writer of, but you can,
you can see them trending to

1636
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:15,810
female. Most professional
writers are all trained

1637
01:39:15,810 --> 01:39:19,440
similarly, so that the female in
this come from a professional

1638
01:39:19,710 --> 01:39:21,780
professionals have a
professional style that they've

1639
01:39:21,780 --> 01:39:25,590
developed from training and
editing. And they tend to be

1640
01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:29,430
kind of mostly, if not all male,
even if they're women, and

1641
01:39:29,430 --> 01:39:32,160
there's normal people that just
right away, they're just writing

1642
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:35,400
naturally. They I think it's
easier with them. I think it's

1643
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:36,900
harder with professionals, he

1644
01:39:36,900 --> 01:39:39,120
Well, of course, if a
professional is trying to you

1645
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:42,060
know, a great writer can write a
woman's character the way a

1646
01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:44,430
woman thinks, you know, I think
that that would be the hallmark

1647
01:39:44,430 --> 01:39:45,360
of a great writer.

1648
01:39:45,570 --> 01:39:48,990
I don't think so. I don't think
that's the hallmark of a great

1649
01:39:49,110 --> 01:39:50,940
writer being able to become a
woman.

1650
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:52,020
No.

1651
01:39:53,220 --> 01:39:55,620
Okay, you're I'm not even sure
there are many great writers

1652
01:39:55,620 --> 01:39:57,480
have ever accomplished what you
just said. Well,

1653
01:39:57,480 --> 01:40:00,570
he has done this exact study.
You Yeah, what

1654
01:40:00,570 --> 01:40:02,640
great writers have done it?
Well,

1655
01:40:02,820 --> 01:40:06,180
I don't I don't have that
information handy. But if you

1656
01:40:06,180 --> 01:40:12,840
look at, it doesn't I would say
that it's, it may be challenging

1657
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,880
to write like a woman if you
don't know what you're doing to

1658
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:18,360
actually write from a female's
perspective and to, for it to

1659
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:21,750
come out in the computer
analysis as a woman, but

1660
01:40:21,750 --> 01:40:24,450
sometimes it may not be
necessary. Ergo Quentin

1661
01:40:24,450 --> 01:40:27,780
Tarantino is characters, his
female characters are all

1662
01:40:27,780 --> 01:40:32,280
extremely male, and his movies
seem to do fine. So it's just

1663
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,830
it's just the point that you can
distinguish between men and

1664
01:40:34,830 --> 01:40:37,680
women in the writing in general.
Is that fair?

1665
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:43,380
I'd say it's, it's partially
true. I think, if you want to

1666
01:40:43,380 --> 01:40:46,590
make the argument, I'm not gonna
argue against it. But it's still

1667
01:40:46,620 --> 01:40:49,500
you know, it's what his research
shows and his roster. He's

1668
01:40:49,500 --> 01:40:51,300
probably coming up with that,
but I don't know if he's

1669
01:40:51,330 --> 01:40:53,640
studying just professionals. You
study. No, no, no,

1670
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:56,880
no, no, no, not at all. No, no,
in fact, far from it. And the

1671
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:01,560
reason why he does this is is
the ultimate reason is to see

1672
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,980
that if you he's all about
writing certain things if you

1673
01:41:04,980 --> 01:41:07,890
had traumatic experiences, and
you can actually heal yourself.

1674
01:41:07,890 --> 01:41:11,760
So his, this is all just side
research, which by the way, is

1675
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,220
now going to Bing This is very
interesting, because that's,

1676
01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:17,970
these guys all got consulting
gigs. It's very interesting. So

1677
01:41:17,970 --> 01:41:20,790
Bing, looks like the search
engine is going to be looking at

1678
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:24,390
some some fun things, the way
things are written, but of

1679
01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:29,460
course, you know, these guys are
vibing on Twitter and, and all

1680
01:41:29,460 --> 01:41:32,790
this these incredible datasets
that we have. And what he's done

1681
01:41:32,790 --> 01:41:36,960
is he said if you go and look at
the pronouns, particularly the

1682
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,080
use of AI words that every
single president has used before

1683
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:45,870
warfare, in speeches, etc. You
can see that right before they

1684
01:41:45,870 --> 01:41:49,380
are about to attack or do
something their use of AI goes

1685
01:41:49,380 --> 01:41:54,930
down significantly said George W
with Iraq senior with the with

1686
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:59,280
the first Gulf War, Nixon, I
mean, that he's gone back and

1687
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:04,020
studied that and, and I said,
rolled How about Obama says, Now

1688
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:07,050
we haven't really done that
research. So we have to

1689
01:42:07,559 --> 01:42:10,259
bet she's gonna find that little
country Miss there. Because if

1690
01:42:10,259 --> 01:42:14,519
you remember, we've spotted
this. When the when they got Bin

1691
01:42:14,519 --> 01:42:19,139
Laden, it was I he's a very I or

1692
01:42:19,170 --> 01:42:23,910
rarely, or four. And this is
where I'm going. It didn't

1693
01:42:23,910 --> 01:42:27,900
actually happen. No intention.
It's all it's not it's Yeah,

1694
01:42:27,930 --> 01:42:31,140
that's actually a good one.
That's the way I see it. And

1695
01:42:31,140 --> 01:42:34,410
he's done. So and that's kind of
the reverse of the last piece of

1696
01:42:34,410 --> 01:42:39,300
information that I got from him.
They studied the younger, Tsar

1697
01:42:39,300 --> 01:42:44,220
Neff, brothers tweets, you know,
the the so called Boston bomber.

1698
01:42:45,090 --> 01:42:49,440
And so I like it. First of all,
he said, Oh, we took the Boston

1699
01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:52,560
bomber. I said, I'm sorry, he
hasn't actually been convicted

1700
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:56,460
of anything. Oh, you know, the
alleged Boston bomber said,

1701
01:42:56,460 --> 01:42:59,580
Yeah. And they studied his
tweets going

1702
01:42:59,820 --> 01:43:03,750
with somebody to actually have
to use the word alleged. Table.

1703
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,010
Just said, each

1704
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,210
is it professors is what's so
great about it, you can do this

1705
01:43:12,210 --> 01:43:18,210
thought you can do it all night
long. And so they took the

1706
01:43:18,210 --> 01:43:22,050
Tsarnaev brothers tweets, and
his there are two things they

1707
01:43:22,050 --> 01:43:28,050
analyze the I word usage, which
started to go down when his

1708
01:43:28,050 --> 01:43:31,560
older brother went back to
Chechnya. But then when his

1709
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:34,470
older brother came back, not
only the I word usage stopped,

1710
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:38,880
but the cognitive the word
cognitive words, really dropped

1711
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,000
off meaning according to the
professor, meaning that they had

1712
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:45,420
already made up their mind they
were going to do something. And

1713
01:43:45,420 --> 01:43:47,820
I found this to be interesting,
because neither you or I

1714
01:43:47,850 --> 01:43:50,610
necessarily believe that they
were certainly solely

1715
01:43:50,610 --> 01:43:54,060
responsible for the Boston
bombing. A lot has yet to be

1716
01:43:54,060 --> 01:43:56,580
proven. There's a lot of
questions and sketchiness and

1717
01:43:56,580 --> 01:44:00,210
certainly no videotape as
alleged. But it does feel like

1718
01:44:00,210 --> 01:44:03,480
perhaps they were involved in
some kind of operation and

1719
01:44:03,480 --> 01:44:06,360
something was taking place. But
it's not necessarily that I

1720
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:09,390
wonder if he's going to submit
this research. I'm wondering if

1721
01:44:09,390 --> 01:44:11,910
it's going to be used in court,
which would be kind of funny.

1722
01:44:13,980 --> 01:44:16,830
Yeah, go on, because that brings
up and another interesting thing

1723
01:44:16,830 --> 01:44:20,580
that I picked up off the C span
in court using this sort of

1724
01:44:20,580 --> 01:44:21,990
thing in court. Well, let's,

1725
01:44:22,020 --> 01:44:25,740
let's go ahead, because I will,
I'm about to wrap it up with a

1726
01:44:25,740 --> 01:44:27,780
document that I want to talk
about. So if you got something

1727
01:44:27,780 --> 01:44:28,440
about this that

1728
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,350
I thought this was kind of
interesting, they had a bunch of

1729
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:35,250
people on it was another one of
these crazy little events. And

1730
01:44:35,250 --> 01:44:40,080
somebody brought this using NSA
data in court. And I think that

1731
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,110
this is maybe one of the reasons
that the FBI and all these other

1732
01:44:43,110 --> 01:44:46,170
guys are freaked out about the
Snowden revelations because they

1733
01:44:46,170 --> 01:44:48,660
don't need this situation,
getting out of control where

1734
01:44:48,660 --> 01:44:50,730
it's gonna require, and I'll
tell you where I think it's

1735
01:44:50,730 --> 01:44:52,020
gonna require after you play the
clip,

1736
01:44:52,740 --> 01:44:56,820
a really interesting example
from my work just on this topic

1737
01:44:56,820 --> 01:45:01,410
real fast is that in 2005, there
A group of environmentalists

1738
01:45:01,410 --> 01:45:04,170
that were facing multiple life
sentence sentences for property

1739
01:45:04,170 --> 01:45:06,720
destruction. And like these
cases, the government was just

1740
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,840
turning the screws and really
threatening them with this. And

1741
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:13,410
they were refusing to take any
plea agreement. A handful of

1742
01:45:13,410 --> 01:45:15,930
these activists were including
DANIEL MCGOWAN from New York.

1743
01:45:16,350 --> 01:45:20,220
And the defense attorneys filed
a motion for any NSA

1744
01:45:20,220 --> 01:45:22,740
surveillance that was used. This
was at the really the peak of

1745
01:45:22,830 --> 01:45:26,760
the Bush administration spy
scandal, right? And the judge

1746
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,900
agreed. And so it's just like,
Wow, holy, holy crap, this is

1747
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,380
That's amazing. This could throw
out if that was used to throw

1748
01:45:34,380 --> 01:45:37,110
out the entire prosecutions. And
then what happened is,

1749
01:45:37,290 --> 01:45:41,670
prosecutors have this amazing
change of heart. And they agreed

1750
01:45:41,670 --> 01:45:44,340
to take the plea agreements
without them snitching on their

1751
01:45:44,340 --> 01:45:47,610
friends in order to quash that
motion. So we'll move forward.

1752
01:45:47,730 --> 01:45:49,860
And I say this, just because I
think it's a really unique

1753
01:45:51,210 --> 01:45:55,470
element that not a lot of people
know about. I have a very strong

1754
01:45:55,470 --> 01:45:58,710
suspicion that illegal
surveillance is working its way

1755
01:45:58,710 --> 01:46:03,000
into many court cases. And
there's a lot of pressure on

1756
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,010
prosecutors and on the
government to make sure the

1757
01:46:05,010 --> 01:46:09,510
extent to that isn't. Hey,
Judge,

1758
01:46:11,310 --> 01:46:12,180
you know, it's

1759
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:14,550
about Yeah, sure.

1760
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:18,330
You're, you know, you're suing
me over sophistry. I'm gonna get

1761
01:46:18,330 --> 01:46:21,030
discovery. And I'm going to say,
well, while I'm at it, I'm going

1762
01:46:21,030 --> 01:46:21,180
to

1763
01:46:22,260 --> 01:46:23,730
get all your phone calls say

1764
01:46:23,730 --> 01:46:27,000
to get give me all that because
they have them. Yeah, give me

1765
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:29,940
all your the websites, the whole
thing you give, I want to see

1766
01:46:29,940 --> 01:46:32,400
you I want to see your email
once your websites, I want to

1767
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,110
see what you visited. I want to
see your go for it

1768
01:46:34,140 --> 01:46:37,800
before I forget. interesting
data point. That, you know, the

1769
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,980
professor works of course with
his undergrads, right. And he

1770
01:46:40,980 --> 01:46:43,980
has them I'll do the all the
experiments. They all were super

1771
01:46:43,980 --> 01:46:47,940
happy to give him emails,
tweets, letters, anything to

1772
01:46:47,940 --> 01:46:51,060
analyze. When he said, Hey, I'd
like to analyze your search

1773
01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:55,770
history. Everyone went Oh, no.
Well, no one wanted to give him

1774
01:46:55,770 --> 01:46:56,100
that.

1775
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:59,670
No, everybody's got sketchy
stuff in their searches.

1776
01:47:00,330 --> 01:47:06,030
Exactly. Exactly. And the NSA
has it all or Omniture, Adobe,

1777
01:47:06,030 --> 01:47:07,290
whoever has it all. Somebody's

1778
01:47:07,290 --> 01:47:10,620
got to and by the way, if you
take any of that stuff out of

1779
01:47:10,620 --> 01:47:13,530
context, you have an answer.

1780
01:47:14,820 --> 01:47:17,520
We should do that. So I just
read my you want to read your

1781
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:18,810
search history? And I'll do
mine. You

1782
01:47:19,110 --> 01:47:23,190
do too many searches? It really?
Yeah, I

1783
01:47:23,190 --> 01:47:27,330
think it would be a wonderful
journey into the mind of John C.

1784
01:47:27,330 --> 01:47:33,090
Dvorak. I would pay money for
it, actually, how much? 10

1785
01:47:33,090 --> 01:47:36,420
bucks, the usual, the usual
Motema $1.

1786
01:47:37,020 --> 01:47:40,230
I'll give you a fine $1. So
anyway, so here's what's gonna

1787
01:47:40,230 --> 01:47:43,080
have to happen. It's like,
almost a red book prediction.

1788
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:49,470
Oh, which reminds me, great.
They're going to have to make

1789
01:47:49,500 --> 01:47:53,040
this stuff, they're gonna have
to do something legislatively to

1790
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:56,790
prevent abuse of all this data
that the NSA is collecting.

1791
01:47:56,790 --> 01:48:00,000
Because, I mean, if I'm a
lawyer, I'm going after that

1792
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,070
data on every case, I do. Oh,

1793
01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:09,750
can I this almost brings me to a
natural segue into the snow job,

1794
01:48:09,750 --> 01:48:13,650
Snowden. I think I know where
this is going to come down. All

1795
01:48:13,650 --> 01:48:16,740
right, once you go in that
direction. Okay. And well, I

1796
01:48:16,740 --> 01:48:18,930
just want to make sure we will,
we'll come back eventually to

1797
01:48:18,930 --> 01:48:22,440
this document. There's a new
player on the scene in the snow

1798
01:48:22,440 --> 01:48:27,030
job. Now, there's a lot going
on, and I'm happy to talk about

1799
01:48:27,030 --> 01:48:30,480
the bullcrap, flyovers that the
Bolivian President was allowed

1800
01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:34,830
to fly and I can I can debunk
all of that. But the new guy on

1801
01:48:34,830 --> 01:48:38,010
the scene now remember, his dad
came out Snowdens dad came out

1802
01:48:38,010 --> 01:48:41,820
and said, Oh, you know what, and
I meet this guy. There's not

1803
01:48:41,820 --> 01:48:45,780
even his dad. I'm like, I don't
know what this guy is. He has

1804
01:48:45,780 --> 01:48:50,280
brought in a lawyer. And this is
very interesting. The lawyer

1805
01:48:50,310 --> 01:48:56,970
that Lonnie has brought in is
Bruce fine. Now Bruce fine. Is

1806
01:48:57,150 --> 01:49:01,830
this is this is no slouch. Key
is a part of Lichfield and

1807
01:49:01,830 --> 01:49:04,320
Associates. Have you ever heard
of this outfit?

1808
01:49:05,190 --> 01:49:07,650
Yeah, I have. As a matter of
fact, this is

1809
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:13,800
this is a huge, huge old school
law firm. Their offices are at

1810
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:22,320
Lichfield Cathedral. This is an
unbelievable group. What? In

1811
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:26,220
what context? Have you heard of
Lichfield and Associates?

1812
01:49:26,310 --> 01:49:29,670
Sure. They're just a big giant
firm. Right now, if

1813
01:49:29,670 --> 01:49:32,070
you look at their mission
statement, and you can find that

1814
01:49:32,070 --> 01:49:34,470
at Lichfield, group.org,

1815
01:49:34,860 --> 01:49:37,650
a spelling Lichfield, Lima,
India,

1816
01:49:37,650 --> 01:49:43,740
Charlie hotel, Foxtrot, India
echo Lima Delta, list, field

1817
01:49:43,770 --> 01:49:48,570
group.org. Enduring statement of
mission of the Lichfield group

1818
01:49:48,570 --> 01:49:51,510
by resolution feeding the
world's hungry and preventing

1819
01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:55,350
global hunger. Yeah, okay. I
know a lot of lawyers whose

1820
01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:59,250
mission statement is that
whereas the Lichfield group is

1821
01:49:59,250 --> 01:50:01,860
an independent neutral and
impartial organization whose

1822
01:50:01,860 --> 01:50:05,160
humanitarian mission is to
provide food and aid to those in

1823
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,160
need, and to supply them with
the assistance in establishing

1824
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:12,150
and ultimately maintaining their
own self sustainability, blah,

1825
01:50:12,150 --> 01:50:16,740
blah, blah. We're like the
International Red Cross. They

1826
01:50:16,740 --> 01:50:21,300
say, No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
What's going to happen is we're

1827
01:50:21,300 --> 01:50:25,410
going to have wiki wiki leaks on
one side. And of course, they,

1828
01:50:25,530 --> 01:50:31,200
you know, now that MasterCard
has said, oh, yeah, we're gonna

1829
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,680
allow we're gonna let wiki
leaks. process credit cards

1830
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:39,000
again. Oh, How coincidental is
that at this moment in time? And

1831
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,100
why such a change of heart? I
wonder

1832
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:46,050
that we, I, we may have just not
the company I was thinking of,

1833
01:50:46,050 --> 01:50:48,900
by the way, but I think we've
discussed this group before and

1834
01:50:48,900 --> 01:50:51,330
I'm not if I'm not mistaken.
They're out of the they're from

1835
01:50:51,330 --> 01:50:54,060
the like, the they're in the
Oxfam category. They're in

1836
01:50:54,060 --> 01:50:55,170
England. Well, it's

1837
01:50:55,170 --> 01:50:59,340
also they've got big Israeli
money behind them. This is huge

1838
01:50:59,340 --> 01:51:05,490
DC, like, I guess, you call
neocon or, you know, this, this

1839
01:51:05,490 --> 01:51:09,600
is these guys have been around.
And they are going to make some

1840
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:14,070
kind of huge trouble. Because I
think I think Snowden will come

1841
01:51:14,070 --> 01:51:18,450
back. I think he's going to give
himself up, but only under some

1842
01:51:18,450 --> 01:51:21,780
kind of deal. And then we're
going to have some kind of

1843
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:26,910
lawsuit and I'm not sure exactly
why this guy is not. You can't

1844
01:51:26,910 --> 01:51:32,640
retain this guy. If you're the
you're Lonnie. Hi, I'm Lonnie.

1845
01:51:32,670 --> 01:51:38,850
I'm Edward Snowden is dead. Hi.
Yeah. Hi, Bruce. I want to

1846
01:51:38,850 --> 01:51:42,870
retain you. No, that's not how
it works. These guys are based

1847
01:51:42,870 --> 01:51:48,630
in Geneva. Yeah, that's why I
called something big is going

1848
01:51:48,630 --> 01:51:55,470
down here. And I think it has it
has everything to do with with

1849
01:51:55,470 --> 01:51:59,100
putting the screws to probably
this administration is what I'm

1850
01:51:59,100 --> 01:51:59,640
guessing.

1851
01:51:59,670 --> 01:52:03,840
Well, everything that we've seen
over the last week when it first

1852
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:06,150
began when they started and
we've said it a couple of times,

1853
01:52:06,150 --> 01:52:11,520
they're piling on Obama began
they are relentless. And we

1854
01:52:11,730 --> 01:52:15,630
decided, I believe the two of us
that about a month ago, when

1855
01:52:16,230 --> 01:52:20,700
once it had already begun, and
now we started it was like we're

1856
01:52:20,700 --> 01:52:24,540
gonna eat you ever shot at
getting rid of him now? Or

1857
01:52:24,540 --> 01:52:28,140
never. And so we have it's been
relentless, relentless,

1858
01:52:28,140 --> 01:52:31,200
relentless, and I don't see
that. They figured I think

1859
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:34,110
somebody did a psychological
profile of them the woman's side

1860
01:52:34,110 --> 01:52:36,930
of him, I guess. He's gonna
crack.

1861
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:40,140
Yeah, let me let me give you a
little more extra or let me give

1862
01:52:40,140 --> 01:52:43,140
the the producers of the show a
little more extra data. So we

1863
01:52:43,140 --> 01:52:48,390
had this Bolivian incident and,
and this was essentially the

1864
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:52,980
setup to rile up all of South
America. Let me play this is

1865
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:57,900
about a minute and a half of we
have Bolivia, Venezuela,

1866
01:52:57,900 --> 01:53:01,770
Argentina. And by the way, the
the Venezuelan President. He's

1867
01:53:01,770 --> 01:53:07,230
kind of like a, like a Devo
safety dance hat on this very

1868
01:53:07,230 --> 01:53:11,190
interesting outfit he's wearing.
And these are the them speaking

1869
01:53:11,220 --> 01:53:15,630
and translations. It's a little
compilation of what they're

1870
01:53:15,630 --> 01:53:18,690
saying about the President and
the United States of America.

1871
01:53:19,290 --> 01:53:19,590
See.

1872
01:53:24,180 --> 01:53:28,800
If necessary, we will close the
US Embassy in Bolivia. We do not

1873
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:32,310
need the US Embassy. We don't
need this pretext of cooperation

1874
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:35,340
and diplomatic relations. When
they come to conspire from

1875
01:53:35,340 --> 01:53:39,990
within and from outside. The US
Ambassador to Bolivia is gone.

1876
01:53:41,100 --> 01:53:45,990
The US Drug Enforcement
Administration is gone. Surely

1877
01:53:46,050 --> 01:53:49,110
the CIA is infiltrated all over
the place.

1878
01:53:51,210 --> 01:53:53,100
And now we go to Venezuela, my
hand would not

1879
01:53:53,100 --> 01:53:57,180
tremble to shut down the US
Embassy. We have dignity. We

1880
01:53:57,180 --> 01:54:00,390
have sovereignty. Without
America. We are better off

1881
01:54:00,450 --> 01:54:03,000
politically and democratically

1882
01:54:03,090 --> 01:54:04,770
that was still liable Libyan
advantage

1883
01:54:09,210 --> 01:54:11,790
gave the order to the
authorities in these countries

1884
01:54:11,820 --> 01:54:18,270
and said Yun Snowden was on the
plane with a CIA. According to

1885
01:54:18,270 --> 01:54:21,420
what has happened in Europe, the
CIA is more powerful than the

1886
01:54:21,420 --> 01:54:29,430
government's. He's in charge in
Europe. European governments and

1887
01:54:29,430 --> 01:54:31,140
their people are the CIA.

1888
01:54:34,710 --> 01:54:39,720
President, you President of
Bolivia were held hostage for 13

1889
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:43,680
hours. And now they're trying to
explain all this saying it was

1890
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,740
due to technical problems or
feel problems.

1891
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,920
Okay, so that was the three
South American countries in a

1892
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:55,470
row and very interesting how
they're talking about the CIA

1893
01:54:55,470 --> 01:54:59,190
being infiltrated how America is
shit, you know, and by the way

1894
01:54:59,610 --> 01:55:03,360
to the chair chat room. You're
absolutely right. Devo did not

1895
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,760
do safety dance. It was men
without hats. And because that's

1896
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,190
the only thing you care about,
I'm logging off of the chat room

1897
01:55:08,190 --> 01:55:11,580
because you're idiots. You're
not the only fact that can pick

1898
01:55:11,580 --> 01:55:17,280
up on. So, I mean, I just logged
out. How stupid are you? Oh,

1899
01:55:17,610 --> 01:55:22,590
there was he was met with Red
Hat. Alright. So there's clearly

1900
01:55:22,590 --> 01:55:25,560
and this is all Russian based
Putin is sitting there laughing

1901
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:26,280
at this because

1902
01:55:26,550 --> 01:55:29,640
Putin is having the time of his
life. I wouldn't be surprised if

1903
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:32,790
Putin this group didn't make
themselves look like the CIA

1904
01:55:32,790 --> 01:55:33,990
pulling this off.

1905
01:55:34,140 --> 01:55:36,600
Well, let me tell you what
happened. So the Bolivian

1906
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:40,470
President had just had a meeting
in Moscow, he's flying back from

1907
01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:44,700
Moscow, where, you know, they
have a $5 billion deal with

1908
01:55:44,700 --> 01:55:49,110
Gazprom, which is Putin. They
know what side of the bread is

1909
01:55:49,110 --> 01:55:52,620
buttered. And this whole like,
oh, they were they were free or

1910
01:55:52,620 --> 01:55:55,230
they were not allowed to cross
they were forced to land well,

1911
01:55:55,230 --> 01:55:59,490
here is the and if you look on
the map, they they they tried to

1912
01:55:59,490 --> 01:56:04,920
land in Portugal, for fueling
that Portugal Faro airport I

1913
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:07,410
believe could not take them for
technical reasons which is

1914
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:10,410
highly possible that they had to
divert but if you look at the

1915
01:56:10,410 --> 01:56:14,910
map and then circle around they
go to Austria this is the the

1916
01:56:14,940 --> 01:56:19,320
tail numbers Fox Alpha Bravo 001
And I'm going to let you in a

1917
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:23,970
little bit of pilot humor here
as you listen to this force

1918
01:56:23,970 --> 01:56:25,680
landing in Austria.

1919
01:56:31,260 --> 01:56:37,230
001 Good evening. Information
whiskey Okay, so that's the

1920
01:56:37,230 --> 01:56:40,230
tower saying Good evening, how
you doing information whiskey,

1921
01:56:40,230 --> 01:56:43,500
which this is the that's the the
current weather an atmosphere

1922
01:56:43,500 --> 01:56:45,990
conditions, expect this runway,
how you doing?

1923
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:57,510
You need any assistance. They
need any assistance from

1924
01:56:57,510 --> 01:57:00,180
learning. So this is the
Austrian flight controller

1925
01:57:00,180 --> 01:57:02,550
saying, Hey, do you guys need
any assistance when you land?

1926
01:57:02,550 --> 01:57:05,010
You know, because we know that
your presidential plane you need

1927
01:57:05,010 --> 01:57:08,160
anything anything we can do ice
cream, you know, Twizzlers,

1928
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:14,940
anything we can get for you. Not
at this moment. Because we

1929
01:57:14,940 --> 01:57:24,000
cannot get a correct indication
of indication. So now, let me

1930
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:27,090
tell you a little bit of pilot
humor. So what he said is no,

1931
01:57:27,090 --> 01:57:29,970
no, we don't need assistance, we
need to land because we cannot

1932
01:57:29,970 --> 01:57:34,410
get a correct indication of our
fuel level. Therefore, we need

1933
01:57:34,410 --> 01:57:39,510
to land as a precautionary
measure. This is a $47 million

1934
01:57:39,930 --> 01:57:44,820
jet. Which you know, this is not
like your fuel gauge in your

1935
01:57:44,850 --> 01:57:50,010
car. And it's not just one fuel
gauge as multiple fuel gauge

1936
01:57:50,010 --> 01:57:53,820
fuel pressure fuel flow. This is
very, very rare. In fact,

1937
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,610
there's two things pilots use
when they want to make an

1938
01:57:56,610 --> 01:58:00,060
unscheduled landing, because
this was an unscheduled landing

1939
01:58:00,060 --> 01:58:05,130
that probably because Putin said
Alright, here's what we're gonna

1940
01:58:05,130 --> 01:58:09,390
do. Firstly, I'm going to say
that Anna Chapman wants to marry

1941
01:58:09,390 --> 01:58:12,360
Snowden that'll piss everybody
off, then I want you guys to

1942
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:15,300
pretend like you're being forced
down. But he's not he is

1943
01:58:15,300 --> 01:58:18,480
requested to land. In the two
things if you need to make an

1944
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:21,210
unscheduled stop or some change
that is not a part of your

1945
01:58:21,210 --> 01:58:24,240
flight plan. The two things you
use are one. Oh, man, there's

1946
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:26,820
something wrong with the fuel.
We don't know. Because you he

1947
01:58:26,820 --> 01:58:29,970
didn't declare an emergency. You
see, declaring an emergency is a

1948
01:58:29,970 --> 01:58:31,860
whole different level. He said
no, no, as a precautionary

1949
01:58:31,860 --> 01:58:34,410
measure, we might have something
wrong with the fuel. We want to

1950
01:58:34,410 --> 01:58:37,050
land. The other one which you
use in smaller aircraft, and

1951
01:58:37,050 --> 01:58:39,840
every pilot will know this. You
say? Yeah, we have passenger

1952
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:41,970
who's sick? In other words, did
you know that you got someone

1953
01:58:41,970 --> 01:58:44,940
puking in your cockpit and you
want to land and you just want

1954
01:58:44,940 --> 01:58:46,950
to get them out because it
smells a puke and you want to

1955
01:58:46,950 --> 01:58:50,490
stop? And though they're both
usually lies. Because you just

1956
01:58:50,490 --> 01:58:53,700
want to convert to a different
flight plan. You want to land

1957
01:58:53,700 --> 01:58:58,830
somewhere you were too lazy to
file etc. To this does not jive

1958
01:58:58,830 --> 01:59:02,130
with. They were not allowed to
enter airspace, they were

1959
01:59:02,130 --> 01:59:07,230
blocked. No, they they did it
made an unscheduled stop. And it

1960
01:59:07,230 --> 01:59:10,800
was their request. And it was a
lie that brought them down. But

1961
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:14,130
this whole thing South America
is I think what Putin is doing

1962
01:59:14,130 --> 01:59:16,920
is saying, Okay, you want to
surround everything here. You

1963
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:19,680
want all your rockets, you want
to put everything here you want

1964
01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:23,610
it. You want Syria, you got your
stuff in Poland, you got all of

1965
01:59:23,610 --> 01:59:26,460
North Africa, how about it get
South America, all I'm waiting

1966
01:59:26,460 --> 01:59:30,420
for now is for Mexico to start
saying something to us that we

1967
01:59:30,420 --> 01:59:33,570
had to put in the Red Book.
Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico

1968
01:59:33,570 --> 01:59:39,810
next. This is cold war. And I
think Did you hear Bolivia

1969
01:59:39,810 --> 01:59:45,630
Venezuela? And? And Argentina?
This is like all of South

1970
01:59:45,630 --> 01:59:48,570
America is an upward Well, I
think the Russians pretty much

1971
01:59:48,570 --> 01:59:50,220
have deals with all of those
countries.

1972
01:59:52,260 --> 01:59:56,850
No, it's It's becoming quite
funny to us. Now. What was the

1973
01:59:56,850 --> 01:59:59,970
point or was you think that this
was Bogota of where they came?

1974
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,000
And is searched the plane for
supposedly for Snowden. But

1975
02:00:03,180 --> 02:00:06,810
there was the plane made maybe
they just continued with the

1976
02:00:06,810 --> 02:00:10,380
ruse and had look, if they
really had a fuel indicator

1977
02:00:10,380 --> 02:00:13,560
problem, then it can take quite
a while to get someone out to

1978
02:00:14,190 --> 02:00:17,490
look knows this Trident jet and
knows how to look at the fuel

1979
02:00:17,490 --> 02:00:20,820
indicator you you kind of have
to keep the roof going whatever.

1980
02:00:21,420 --> 02:00:24,150
But they asked if they needed
assistance. This is not a forced

1981
02:00:24,150 --> 02:00:29,580
landing. This is not like so I'm
checking. This is all all a lie.

1982
02:00:29,940 --> 02:00:35,760
None of it is true. None of it.
There is no evidence other than

1983
02:00:36,450 --> 02:00:38,760
that, you know, the analysis is
interesting because if you

1984
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:41,460
listen to the State Department,
I have a clip. Oh, good. But

1985
02:00:41,460 --> 02:00:44,760
they were jumping all over. That
was it was Jen. That was the

1986
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:46,860
spokesman. I have other clips.

1987
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:51,240
I've listened to her a couple of
times. And I can't believe that

1988
02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:53,010
the press corps doesn't shoot
her.

1989
02:00:53,250 --> 02:00:57,180
Yeah, no, she is condescending.
Oh, she's much worse than our

1990
02:00:57,180 --> 02:01:00,510
other girl than Newland. Yeah,
she is so condescending. I don't

1991
02:01:00,510 --> 02:01:04,140
have these clips because I
didn't produce them. I may put

1992
02:01:04,140 --> 02:01:07,110
them together later. Because it
takes a little production. She

1993
02:01:07,110 --> 02:01:10,890
is especially to Matt Lee. This
is our failures. Our guy is our

1994
02:01:10,890 --> 02:01:14,700
guy Matt. Yeah. Matt. And so
Matt from AP he's been on are

1995
02:01:14,700 --> 02:01:17,580
constantly and she's always
going. She's like big nurse and

1996
02:01:17,580 --> 02:01:21,030
they One Flew Over the Cuckoo's
Nest? Well, Matt, I know you'd

1997
02:01:21,030 --> 02:01:23,880
like to think that. I know you'd
like not to fact and we're not

1998
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:24,570
going to talk.

1999
02:01:25,530 --> 02:01:28,320
And Matt is also always saying
like, well, before you say the

2000
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:31,530
fluid is the situation is fluid,
and we don't address yet he's

2001
02:01:31,530 --> 02:01:36,090
always giving her crap about her
bull crap. It's hilarious. But I

2002
02:01:36,090 --> 02:01:39,030
haven't been able to find enough
to clip from you clearly got

2003
02:01:39,330 --> 02:01:42,960
a clip of her saying that oh,
well, you know, it's not, we

2004
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:44,880
can't tell you which
essentially, is a clip of her

2005
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:47,220
saying we can't talk about
anything. But they got on the

2006
02:01:47,220 --> 02:01:51,630
case about this, about this
plane and all the crap that went

2007
02:01:51,630 --> 02:01:55,920
on. She seemed she seemed as
though she was either unaware of

2008
02:01:55,980 --> 02:01:59,010
from your perspective of what
you say is true, or what you

2009
02:01:59,250 --> 02:02:01,710
your thesis, say your thesis
data

2010
02:02:01,710 --> 02:02:03,750
I have? I mean, she does not

2011
02:02:03,750 --> 02:02:05,610
have any of this at all. I mean,

2012
02:02:05,610 --> 02:02:08,910
that you're taking one side over
the other. Go ahead.

2013
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:13,740
system, the US have any role in
encouraging Western European

2014
02:02:13,740 --> 02:02:16,530
countries to block the flight of
the Bolivian President

2015
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:20,820
yesterday. Was there any
communication between the US and

2016
02:02:20,820 --> 02:02:21,720
those countries?

2017
02:02:23,190 --> 02:02:26,340
Well, as you know, because we've
talked about it quite a bit in

2018
02:02:26,340 --> 02:02:30,930
here. The US has been in touch
the United States, I should say

2019
02:02:30,930 --> 02:02:34,140
officials have been in touch
with a broad range of countries

2020
02:02:34,380 --> 02:02:35,130
over the world. Was

2021
02:02:35,130 --> 02:02:39,360
that about the United States?
Yes. No, no, no, no, no, she

2022
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:41,910
says something else. It says the
US or I mean, the United States,

2023
02:02:41,910 --> 02:02:43,140
I should say, yeah, no,

2024
02:02:43,140 --> 02:02:47,250
I heard that. analyzer says the
US it's just the United States

2025
02:02:47,250 --> 02:02:52,620
officials? I do not know. Okay,
that was weird. I will not get

2026
02:02:52,620 --> 02:02:54,750
it that was in those countries?

2027
02:02:56,220 --> 02:02:59,010
Well, has, you know, because
we've talked about it quite a

2028
02:02:59,010 --> 02:03:03,480
bit in here. The US has been in
touch the United States, I

2029
02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:06,540
should say officials have been
in touch with a broad range of

2030
02:03:06,540 --> 02:03:12,120
countries over the course of the
last 10 days. And we haven't I

2031
02:03:12,120 --> 02:03:16,110
haven't listed those countries.
I'm certainly not going to do

2032
02:03:16,110 --> 02:03:21,000
that today. Our position on Mr.
Snowden has also been crystal

2033
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:24,570
clear in terms of what we want
to happen. And that message has

2034
02:03:24,570 --> 02:03:29,460
been communicated both publicly
and privately and a range of

2035
02:03:29,460 --> 02:03:33,060
these conversations we've had
with countries. And let me just

2036
02:03:33,060 --> 02:03:36,420
repeat he's been accused of
leaking classified information.

2037
02:03:36,420 --> 02:03:39,420
He's been charged with three
felony counts and should be

2038
02:03:39,420 --> 02:03:42,630
returned to the United States. I
don't know that any country

2039
02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:46,650
doesn't think that that is what
the United States would like to

2040
02:03:46,650 --> 02:03:53,880
happen. The public many, the
public. But decision made, you

2041
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:56,700
know, over the course of the
last week or so whether they're

2042
02:03:56,700 --> 02:04:00,750
public comments about whether or
not they'll accept asylum as

2043
02:04:00,750 --> 02:04:04,980
asylum request, or whether it's
closing airspace are decisions

2044
02:04:04,980 --> 02:04:09,150
made by individual countries.
And I would point you to them

2045
02:04:09,420 --> 02:04:13,140
to, to describe why they made
decisions if they made

2046
02:04:13,140 --> 02:04:15,750
decisions. And I know there's
already been a range of public

2047
02:04:15,750 --> 02:04:16,650
comments out there.

2048
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:19,620
There's been a great deal of
criticism, though, from Latin

2049
02:04:19,620 --> 02:04:23,190
American leaders about the
decision, not least because

2050
02:04:23,220 --> 02:04:27,390
Snowden doesn't appear to have
been on board. You don't sound

2051
02:04:27,390 --> 02:04:29,670
like you're denying that there
were conversations about this. I

2052
02:04:29,670 --> 02:04:32,400
mean, they number of Latin
American leaders today has

2053
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:36,390
specifically criticized the US
for intervening in the

2054
02:04:36,390 --> 02:04:40,560
diplomatic flight. Are you are
you are you am I right? And

2055
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:42,360
understand that you're not
denying there were conversations

2056
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:42,570
about

2057
02:04:42,630 --> 02:04:45,360
I'm not going to get into
diplomatic conversations that

2058
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:48,660
happened over the past 10 days
and which countries they were

2059
02:04:48,660 --> 02:04:52,230
with but I would point you to
the countries that you're

2060
02:04:52,230 --> 02:04:55,830
referring to and ask you to ask
them about decisions that were

2061
02:04:55,830 --> 02:04:56,100
made

2062
02:04:56,160 --> 02:04:59,340
and I just got a little extra
new piece of information in that

2063
02:04:59,340 --> 02:05:05,670
they And the aircraft also made
a refueling stop at Las Palmas

2064
02:05:05,670 --> 02:05:09,870
airport, which I think is Canary
Islands, where they only took on

2065
02:05:09,870 --> 02:05:15,090
3100 kilos of fuel, which is
about a third, you know, just

2066
02:05:15,090 --> 02:05:19,620
about enough to run out. Or to
refuel somewhere else, this

2067
02:05:19,620 --> 02:05:24,000
thing. And by the way, that
clip, which I had, I saw that

2068
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:27,150
whole piece, I was thinking
about it. I realized it's better

2069
02:05:27,150 --> 02:05:29,070
when you can see her annoying
head.

2070
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:33,510
Oh, it's so funny. You have to
kind of, cuz she's got to.

2071
02:05:34,050 --> 02:05:37,260
Yeah, you have to kind of see
the face when she doesn't really

2072
02:05:37,290 --> 02:05:37,620
know.

2073
02:05:37,620 --> 02:05:40,140
Actually, she doesn't. If you
just listen to her audio, it's a

2074
02:05:40,140 --> 02:05:42,840
lot different than if you watch
her. Yeah, no, because it's just

2075
02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:47,490
like this. It's like you idiots.
I don't She's a very Hillary

2076
02:05:47,490 --> 02:05:50,850
style. Yes. Well, I think she
was obviously hired by Hillary

2077
02:05:50,850 --> 02:05:52,530
during that era. But we should
we

2078
02:05:52,530 --> 02:05:55,170
should look into her background.
I have not done that. I know

2079
02:05:55,170 --> 02:05:58,380
that she that Jin Woo because
you know, Victoria moved on.

2080
02:05:58,380 --> 02:06:01,050
Right. She's up. She's now she's
on the plane. She's She flies

2081
02:06:01,050 --> 02:06:03,810
with Carrie. And she's, you
know, she's a she's a muckety

2082
02:06:03,810 --> 02:06:06,780
muck Now, which of course she
wants to be because she is in

2083
02:06:06,780 --> 02:06:09,840
the elitist circle with her
husband there. But this whole

2084
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:14,640
thing is, and you can hear her
really having nothing to say

2085
02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:18,540
about it. There was no call.
There's no there's nothing went

2086
02:06:18,540 --> 02:06:23,640
out this distance. It is
theater. It is one big theater.

2087
02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:26,940
I'm telling you. I don't think
she'd had a clue. It knows. No,

2088
02:06:26,940 --> 02:06:27,150
she

2089
02:06:27,150 --> 02:06:30,750
has no idea because it didn't
happen that way. He just didn't

2090
02:06:30,750 --> 02:06:33,660
have this as a UN. It's so hard.
We don't catch these things

2091
02:06:33,660 --> 02:06:37,230
quite quick enough. We need to
find out where did this come

2092
02:06:37,230 --> 02:06:42,840
from first, who was the first to
report this atrocity? I'm pretty

2093
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:48,390
sure it came from source Arceus
RT Yeah, exactly. R T. Maybe the

2094
02:06:48,390 --> 02:06:48,810
first

2095
02:06:48,810 --> 02:06:52,050
clip I saw that was our tea.
Yeah. I'm telling you, these

2096
02:06:52,050 --> 02:06:53,910
guys are making fools of our
people.

2097
02:06:55,320 --> 02:07:00,750
Yeah, well, there's two things
you can do a shut our tea down,

2098
02:07:01,170 --> 02:07:05,040
get them off, or that's what I
would do or be higher the curry

2099
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:09,870
Devorah Consulting Group and
give us a channel. Give us give

2100
02:07:09,870 --> 02:07:11,130
us MSNBC.

2101
02:07:11,430 --> 02:07:14,490
I think what you want to do is
you want to create a I don't

2102
02:07:14,490 --> 02:07:18,630
know. Yeah, MSNBC, B, please, we
could be great with it, you got

2103
02:07:18,630 --> 02:07:22,530
to get rid of some of these guys
like Schultz saw. I mean, he's

2104
02:07:22,530 --> 02:07:28,980
not doing anybody a favor. Oh,
okay to spy on the American

2105
02:07:28,980 --> 02:07:32,550
public because terrorists are
involved. I don't even know what

2106
02:07:32,550 --> 02:07:33,060
the right

2107
02:07:33,330 --> 02:07:36,240
way to go. And the funny thing,
and I'm in the midst of all of

2108
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:39,330
this is to go after the
Russians. And the New York Times

2109
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:43,770
is for some reason they got left
out. I'm not quite sure why. But

2110
02:07:43,770 --> 02:07:47,040
the New York Times didn't get it
didn't get a seat at this table

2111
02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:51,120
for this, this grand game, this,
you know, this whole, the

2112
02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:54,840
leaking of the of the documents,
and they're just not a part of

2113
02:07:54,840 --> 02:08:00,300
it. In fact, there's a pretty
good article in the Times about

2114
02:08:00,300 --> 02:08:04,260
the FISA court, the Foreign
Intelligence Service Act courts,

2115
02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:08,460
and how they created this huge
body of legislation that

2116
02:08:08,460 --> 02:08:14,670
actually enables under the
special circumstances clause

2117
02:08:15,060 --> 02:08:19,230
enables this type of large
surveillance, and it is the same

2118
02:08:19,230 --> 02:08:23,820
clause that is used for sobriety
checkpoints for airport

2119
02:08:23,820 --> 02:08:27,420
security. And what you're seeing
is the so called slippery slope,

2120
02:08:27,450 --> 02:08:30,720
you know, it's mud and we're
down, we're, we're headed on the

2121
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:33,570
way down, and there's no
stopping it. Because we allowed

2122
02:08:33,570 --> 02:08:38,010
all this to happen, even though
lots of people are saying, Hey,

2123
02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:41,940
don't do this. The rest of the
fools are like, oh, I want to be

2124
02:08:41,940 --> 02:08:45,060
safe. And we're only getting
more of that. We're only getting

2125
02:08:45,060 --> 02:08:48,630
more of that. Yeah, I agree. And
this, and maybe I should just

2126
02:08:48,630 --> 02:08:51,990
finish with, with a document
that that Professor Russell get,

2127
02:08:51,990 --> 02:08:54,570
and Professor Ross gave to me,
because I put this in the show

2128
02:08:54,570 --> 02:09:00,060
notes. And this is something you
have to see to believe in 1987.

2129
02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:04,590
So Russ is near one of our
dinner group. And, and we were

2130
02:09:04,590 --> 02:09:08,430
talking about what is, you know,
it was part of the manipulation

2131
02:09:08,460 --> 02:09:11,400
thing, like, you know, people
get freaked out about all the

2132
02:09:11,400 --> 02:09:13,230
wrong things, and you're
probably worried that you're

2133
02:09:13,230 --> 02:09:17,100
gonna get shot by some white
psycho in the shopping mall, or

2134
02:09:17,100 --> 02:09:19,650
the movies were really the
likelihood of that is less than

2135
02:09:19,650 --> 02:09:22,800
getting struck by lightning, you
have more chance of dying by

2136
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:26,520
driving home tonight, etc. And
of course, you know, this, this

2137
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:29,490
becomes a conversation and there
was an email thread the next

2138
02:09:29,490 --> 02:09:34,470
day. And Ross ends because he's,
uh, you know, he's, he's a brain

2139
02:09:34,470 --> 02:09:38,610
scientist. So they, he knows all
the research on this stuff. And

2140
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:42,870
let me just find the, the actual
document here. There's a very

2141
02:09:42,870 --> 02:09:45,630
and he says it's a very famous
study that was done. And this

2142
02:09:45,630 --> 02:09:51,390
has been, you know, this type of
research is, is done by, you

2143
02:09:51,390 --> 02:09:55,920
know, it's federally funded,
right. A lot of research is done

2144
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:59,550
by the, what do you call it the
National Institutes of Mental

2145
02:09:59,550 --> 02:10:02,550
Health Have what else do you
have? John?

2146
02:10:03,510 --> 02:10:07,770
National Science Foundation?
Science? Yeah, the army, the

2147
02:10:07,770 --> 02:10:11,520
army, the intelligence agencies,
the DARPA does a lot of this.

2148
02:10:12,540 --> 02:10:17,250
So he gives me the document. Oh,
I'm just scrolling. I'm little.

2149
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:19,320
Oh, I see what you're up to.
Yeah, I can't find

2150
02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:22,200
it. Find it by John helped me
out here. Could you talk?

2151
02:10:22,230 --> 02:10:25,740
Yeah. And then I think, you
know, Brown is a pretty color if

2152
02:10:25,740 --> 02:10:28,800
you're really dumb. The

2153
02:10:29,910 --> 02:10:35,190
the research was done by a guy
named Slavic, SL, O. V. I see.

2154
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:41,490
And that's the name I'm looking
for. Right? Frog? This is

2155
02:10:41,490 --> 02:10:46,980
horrible. I can't believe I lost
the fucking document. Yes, I

2156
02:10:46,980 --> 02:10:48,030
said it. I'm sorry. She

2157
02:10:48,030 --> 02:10:48,900
more believable.

2158
02:10:49,110 --> 02:10:53,430
Yeah, well, believe me that I
lost this document, I'm gonna

2159
02:10:53,430 --> 02:10:55,740
have to come back to it.
Otherwise, I'm just run around

2160
02:10:55,740 --> 02:11:00,000
like an idiot because I marked
it up anyway, in 1987, they did

2161
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:03,540
a survey, and it was done. It
was given to the government and

2162
02:11:03,540 --> 02:11:08,250
given with the express notion
of, hey, wow, the American

2163
02:11:08,250 --> 02:11:11,790
people are afraid about really
stupid things that aren't really

2164
02:11:11,850 --> 02:11:15,990
all that dangerous. And you
should adjust your the way you

2165
02:11:15,990 --> 02:11:19,710
legislate, to let people know
that they're worried about all

2166
02:11:19,710 --> 02:11:23,850
the wrong things. And I look at
this document 1987 when look at

2167
02:11:23,850 --> 02:11:27,030
and just the opposite. Yes.
1987. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do

2168
02:11:27,030 --> 02:11:29,790
the same thing. I mean, I would
guess what you're gonna say, the

2169
02:11:29,790 --> 02:11:32,580
document comes as Oh, this is
what they're afraid of, let's

2170
02:11:32,580 --> 02:11:33,840
milk it. And it's

2171
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:38,130
the top of the list, nuclear
energy, you know, at that time,

2172
02:11:38,130 --> 02:11:43,500
at that point in time, top of
the list was what was and of

2173
02:11:43,500 --> 02:11:47,760
course, it did segregated by
women and students, etc. Top

2174
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:52,230
analysts was private aviation,
people on small airplanes, all

2175
02:11:52,230 --> 02:11:58,680
of this stuff. And it goes into
a level of, of how your brain

2176
02:11:58,680 --> 02:12:03,000
works. And it turns out that
people are more afraid of

2177
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:05,280
events. And there's an I'm
looking for a word, because it's

2178
02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:07,740
going to be a show title.
They're more afraid of events

2179
02:12:07,740 --> 02:12:15,000
that actually have no, no real
victims. But that, you know,

2180
02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:19,830
shows a failure, typically a
technological failure, that if

2181
02:12:19,830 --> 02:12:23,100
that happens, all the 1000s of
people could die. And that's, of

2182
02:12:23,100 --> 02:12:28,290
course, what what nuclear energy
is. So the event doesn't

2183
02:12:28,290 --> 02:12:32,310
actually not a lot of people die
or hurt or if anything at all

2184
02:12:32,310 --> 02:12:37,110
happens. But it gives you the
idea that if if the government

2185
02:12:37,110 --> 02:12:40,320
doesn't fix this, fix the
technology, fix the legislation,

2186
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:43,170
technology is a big one on this,
by the way, that then it could

2187
02:12:43,170 --> 02:12:45,870
have catastrophic, catastrophic
results.

2188
02:12:46,530 --> 02:12:49,620
It's probably why they're
milking the cyberterrorism.

2189
02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:54,210
Exactly. This thing is like a
joke. This is essentially

2190
02:12:54,210 --> 02:12:57,360
unfortunate. Everybody forgets
about this. This is no worse

2191
02:12:57,360 --> 02:12:59,070
than y 2k

2192
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:03,930
Same thing. Y 2k This was the
study was done before y2k.

2193
02:13:04,110 --> 02:13:07,320
Otherwise it would have been
perfect for it. Perfect.

2194
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:12,900
And y2k the biggest fiasco ever.
Oh, I

2195
02:13:12,900 --> 02:13:15,750
have it. Oh, my goodness. All
this time. I was looking for the

2196
02:13:15,750 --> 02:13:18,570
dummies the show's over. I know
what to kind of say Okay, I just

2197
02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:22,290
okay. And it's one of these. He
got it from? What's the thing

2198
02:13:22,290 --> 02:13:28,080
that they killed Aaron Schwartz
for JSTOR. They killed people

2199
02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:31,590
over over talking about
documents like this. The zero

2200
02:13:31,590 --> 02:13:34,500
risks here it is. This is the
these perceptions and the

2201
02:13:34,500 --> 02:13:38,040
opposition to technology that
accompanies them have puzzled

2202
02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:41,370
and frustrated industrialists
and regulators. And I've led

2203
02:13:41,370 --> 02:13:44,520
numerous observers to argue that
the American public's apparent

2204
02:13:44,520 --> 02:13:49,110
pursuit of a quote zero risk
society threatens the nation's

2205
02:13:49,110 --> 02:13:54,450
political and economic stability
wishes. If I read that, right,

2206
02:13:54,450 --> 02:13:57,510
you got like, No, this is
perfect. So how do you want me

2207
02:13:57,510 --> 02:14:02,160
to like control people? That's
exactly what we want. New

2208
02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:05,940
evidence appears reliable and
informative. If it is consistent

2209
02:14:05,940 --> 02:14:08,670
with one's initial beliefs,
contrary evidence tends to be

2210
02:14:08,670 --> 02:14:11,610
dismissed as unreliable. This is
kind of the basis of conspiracy

2211
02:14:11,610 --> 02:14:15,120
theories, erroneous or
unrepresentative. So it kind of

2212
02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:19,710
is a reverse of conspiracy
theories. That shows the

2213
02:14:19,710 --> 02:14:24,090
government how to help people
get on board with some agenda.

2214
02:14:25,470 --> 02:14:27,810
And then it goes into the Three
Mile Island nuclear reactor and

2215
02:14:27,810 --> 02:14:30,450
79 provides a dramatic
demonstration that factors

2216
02:14:30,450 --> 02:14:33,540
besides injury, death and
property damage impose serious

2217
02:14:33,540 --> 02:14:37,170
costs, despite the fact that not
a single person died and few

2218
02:14:37,170 --> 02:14:40,410
have any late and cancer
fatalities are expected. No

2219
02:14:40,410 --> 02:14:43,470
other accident in our history
has produced such costly social

2220
02:14:43,500 --> 02:14:46,650
impacts. The accident at Three
Mile Island devastated the

2221
02:14:46,650 --> 02:14:48,120
utility that owned and operated

2222
02:14:48,900 --> 02:14:52,710
it all don't forget the movie.
Yeah, no syndrome, which which

2223
02:14:52,710 --> 02:14:53,850
came out in Fonda, which

2224
02:14:53,850 --> 02:14:56,250
came out 12 days before that
happened.

2225
02:14:56,820 --> 02:14:59,190
Yeah, well, there you go. And so

2226
02:14:59,190 --> 02:15:03,840
it goes on now. I want to give
you the the meat of it. Although

2227
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:08,010
TMI Three Mile Island, accent is
extreme it is by no means unique

2228
02:15:08,040 --> 02:15:11,820
are the recent events resulting
in enormous higher order impacts

2229
02:15:11,820 --> 02:15:14,580
include the chemical
manufacturing accidents, Bhopal,

2230
02:15:14,580 --> 02:15:17,670
India, the pollution of Love
Canal, New York, the Times

2231
02:15:17,670 --> 02:15:20,880
Beach, Missouri disasters launch
of the space shuttle Challenger,

2232
02:15:21,090 --> 02:15:24,150
the meltdown of the nuclear
reactor, Chernobyl etc, etc. And

2233
02:15:24,180 --> 02:15:27,990
here it is. An important concept
that has emerged from the cycle

2234
02:15:28,020 --> 02:15:32,520
metric research is that the
seriousness and higher order

2235
02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:37,500
impacts of an unfortunate event
read determined in part by what

2236
02:15:37,500 --> 02:15:42,690
that event signals or portends.
The infant informativeness, or

2237
02:15:42,690 --> 02:15:48,330
signal potential of an event is
thus its potential social impact

2238
02:15:48,540 --> 02:15:52,560
appears to be systematically
related to characteristics of

2239
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:56,430
the hazard and the location of
the event. With the factor space

2240
02:15:56,430 --> 02:16:00,120
described earlier. An accident
that takes many lives may

2241
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:05,070
produce relatively little social
disturbance. It occurs as part

2242
02:16:05,070 --> 02:16:07,890
of a familiar and well
understood system like a train

2243
02:16:07,890 --> 02:16:14,010
wreck. However, a small accident
in an unfamiliar system, such as

2244
02:16:14,280 --> 02:16:20,910
nuclear reactor or recombinant
DNA laboratory, may have immense

2245
02:16:20,910 --> 02:16:25,020
social consequences. If it is
perceived as a harbinger of

2246
02:16:25,020 --> 02:16:28,770
further and possibly
catastrophic mishaps. That is

2247
02:16:28,770 --> 02:16:33,900
your cyber war right there. No
one dies. But you can say, Oh,

2248
02:16:33,930 --> 02:16:36,300
you I mean, you really don't.
You don't understand why

2249
02:16:36,330 --> 02:16:39,480
we should just quit the show and
go do a cyber war company.

2250
02:16:40,590 --> 02:16:43,020
There's so much money in that,
well, maybe we should do both.

2251
02:16:43,170 --> 02:16:44,760
I think we could do it part
time.

2252
02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:48,600
So here's the clip that relates
to that clip, which I thought

2253
02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:51,870
was interesting. I was again, on
C span watching these two guys

2254
02:16:51,870 --> 02:16:55,530
who wrote the book balance is on
book TV. And they're talking

2255
02:16:55,530 --> 02:16:59,340
about the the economies of the
various countries and how we can

2256
02:16:59,340 --> 02:17:01,350
get out of this mess we're in
and why we need a balanced

2257
02:17:01,350 --> 02:17:03,540
budget, but we did has to be
balanced a certain way because

2258
02:17:03,540 --> 02:17:06,180
we have to, we have emergency
situations. But then they

2259
02:17:06,180 --> 02:17:09,990
dropped this one in a
manufactured crisis clip

2260
02:17:10,020 --> 02:17:14,100
times, changes spurred by either
a crisis in this country, we're

2261
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:18,300
good when our backs against the
wall. And other times technology

2262
02:17:18,450 --> 02:17:21,420
advancements help. How do you
see those two playing a role in

2263
02:17:21,420 --> 02:17:22,710
your view of the future?

2264
02:17:23,969 --> 02:17:27,299
Well, it's a it's a great point.
And where the country has risen

2265
02:17:27,299 --> 02:17:31,469
to great challenges have been
economic crises, wars, one of

2266
02:17:31,469 --> 02:17:35,969
the reasons we were for the rule
changes, is if I can be really

2267
02:17:35,969 --> 02:17:40,169
candid, almost manufactured
crisis, politicians have very

2268
02:17:40,169 --> 02:17:43,649
difficult times in dealing with
long term present value issues,

2269
02:17:43,649 --> 02:17:47,039
they need a crisis in the here
and now and we may have to we

2270
02:17:47,039 --> 02:17:51,359
may have to manufacture that.
Because if we don't, the problem

2271
02:17:51,359 --> 02:17:55,559
is as with other great powers
over time, our ability to do all

2272
02:17:55,559 --> 02:17:58,319
the things that the American
people today take for granted,

2273
02:17:58,919 --> 02:18:00,269
will simply diminish.

2274
02:18:01,109 --> 02:18:04,649
Exactly. And so these numbers
help.

2275
02:18:05,700 --> 02:18:11,340
And so I sent this back to Ross,
I went, Oh my God. I said this

2276
02:18:11,340 --> 02:18:16,080
is 87 cable television was just
starting I mean it CNN had been

2277
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:19,470
around for a couple of years.
But it was every everyone had

2278
02:18:19,470 --> 02:18:23,010
big bass 40 channel basic cable.
We had cell phones, which are

2279
02:18:23,010 --> 02:18:26,670
the size of VHS cassettes.
Hello, VHS cassettes, what am I

2280
02:18:26,670 --> 02:18:31,860
even talking about? We had
internet was paying finger and

2281
02:18:31,860 --> 02:18:36,060
gopher. And can you imagine that
this is and when this was

2282
02:18:36,060 --> 02:18:40,440
starting, this is a bonanza. So
he's now he's going to look for

2283
02:18:40,440 --> 02:18:43,290
us and see if there's been any
updated research. But he says

2284
02:18:43,290 --> 02:18:47,430
this is a paper that was
landmark at the time, and is

2285
02:18:47,430 --> 02:18:50,760
constantly referred to in the
scientific community. And so he

2286
02:18:50,760 --> 02:18:56,130
said that maybe there may be
something new. But he's he'll

2287
02:18:56,130 --> 02:18:58,350
find it for you'll find it for
us if there's been new research,

2288
02:18:58,350 --> 02:19:01,350
but this is basically what
everything started on. If you

2289
02:19:01,350 --> 02:19:04,440
correlate that back to 87. I
mean, look at all the things

2290
02:19:04,440 --> 02:19:06,870
that have happened since then
look at all the fantastic

2291
02:19:06,900 --> 02:19:10,260
manufactured crises we've had,
including your y2k example.

2292
02:19:11,730 --> 02:19:18,000
Yeah. A lot of money was spent
on that y2k thing. Yeah. I'm

2293
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:21,480
gonna show my school by donating
to no agenda. Imagine all the

2294
02:19:21,570 --> 02:19:23,910
people who could do that. Oh,
yeah, that'd be fun.

2295
02:19:31,350 --> 02:19:34,260
And we do have a number of
people to thank for the help and

2296
02:19:34,260 --> 02:19:39,810
support the show 528 And I'll
rattle their names off. Evelyn

2297
02:19:39,810 --> 02:19:45,300
by Salas in Venezuela, as a
matter of fact $100 My husband

2298
02:19:45,300 --> 02:19:49,830
Diego Medina is a huge note and
he has donated I believe, a huge

2299
02:19:49,830 --> 02:19:55,140
no agenda fan. His birthday on
July 7 Is today. Hey, so he's on

2300
02:19:55,140 --> 02:20:01,500
the list. Sean coffee in
Annandale. A New South Wales

2301
02:20:02,040 --> 02:20:05,550
Boehner turn donor watching the
Dakotas how to make money

2302
02:20:05,550 --> 02:20:09,150
selling drugs and backed up by
the house. Excuse me back to buy

2303
02:20:09,150 --> 02:20:13,950
the house. I live in slaves.
Slaves the winter of the wire is

2304
02:20:13,950 --> 02:20:18,330
in both slaves. No need to read
on air. Okay, we won't. Matthew

2305
02:20:18,330 --> 02:20:24,360
Yates, Fairport, New York at
436. Vaughn glitch gah in Salem,

2306
02:20:24,360 --> 02:20:34,260
Oregon 7777 Sam Minar in Box
Hill, South Australia Victoria,

2307
02:20:34,920 --> 02:20:39,210
or South someplace Victoria
anyway, Australia 7713 Glen

2308
02:20:39,210 --> 02:20:44,850
Risio in Charlottesville,
Virginia 7713 We have a rather

2309
02:20:44,850 --> 02:20:50,700
long note here when you look it
over I think Kieran in gray in

2310
02:20:50,700 --> 02:20:54,060
Glenwood New South Wales we have
a lot of Australians coming

2311
02:20:54,300 --> 02:20:55,890
forward today for some reason

2312
02:20:55,890 --> 02:20:58,890
you know why because the
everything's in turmoil there

2313
02:20:58,890 --> 02:21:04,590
and then and you I've noticed
this when we when you do news

2314
02:21:04,590 --> 02:21:08,370
about a certain country and we
talked about the the New

2315
02:21:08,370 --> 02:21:12,000
Zealanders going to Australia
for jobs I got a lot of email

2316
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:15,570
about that. And now people feel
involved in the show and then

2317
02:21:15,570 --> 02:21:18,000
like Oh, hold on, hold on a
second. This and I got a lot of

2318
02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:21,360
stories. The show notes are
usually filled with all kinds of

2319
02:21:21,360 --> 02:21:24,660
interesting Australian and New
Zealand news. No different

2320
02:21:24,660 --> 02:21:25,080
today.

2321
02:21:25,260 --> 02:21:28,920
Well Kieran is apparently been
watching since show 25 and just

2322
02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:31,710
gave for the first time he feels
like kinda like a douche. But

2323
02:21:31,980 --> 02:21:36,030
the mail we sent him on Saturday
or our Saturday, which I think

2324
02:21:36,030 --> 02:21:38,880
is Thursday of last year in
Australia. I don't know.

2325
02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:42,120
Whatever the case is, it was
right at the top of his box and

2326
02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:45,420
he says okay, I give in. Keys
Shoemaker in Jacksonville,

2327
02:21:45,420 --> 02:21:50,010
Florida. 7713 Joe Collins is
7730 in Woodbridge, Virginia.

2328
02:21:50,670 --> 02:21:54,930
He's actually sir, yo ho. I want
to make sure that he gets that

2329
02:21:54,960 --> 02:22:03,060
call out. Right, right. Jesse
brunette brunette 75 in Sudbury,

2330
02:22:03,060 --> 02:22:08,040
Ontario. I'm no longer a Hoser
I'm now a donor. Much love from

2331
02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:11,910
Sudbury, Ontario. Big Nico
loves. Yep. Please send karma to

2332
02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:16,740
my love. Alex. He got me into
the show earlier this year. Some

2333
02:22:16,740 --> 02:22:21,600
pictures. Get some karma at the
end. Yep. James Howard. 7413

2334
02:22:21,600 --> 02:22:24,870
Indianapolis, Indiana Pat Derry
7413.

2335
02:22:25,530 --> 02:22:28,650
These still a lot of our seven

2336
02:22:28,650 --> 02:22:34,740
437 7430s coming in late. Harvey
Lee 7413 in just Washington.

2337
02:22:35,010 --> 02:22:37,500
Federal Way somewhere federal
ways that is town? I don't think

2338
02:22:37,500 --> 02:22:42,030
so. No. I don't know. I'm sure
way Deming $73 in Anchorage,

2339
02:22:42,030 --> 02:22:45,660
Alaska. Michael Kyrin 66.

2340
02:22:49,770 --> 02:22:54,360
He says he wants to win the damn
time in my spreadsheet. I'm

2341
02:22:54,360 --> 02:22:58,110
gonna hold on. Scroll down and
scroll all the way back up.

2342
02:22:58,470 --> 02:23:01,350
You said wish I had my night
ring bought. I understand it's

2343
02:23:01,350 --> 02:23:04,890
hard to ship to Missoura Yeah,
all right. No,

2344
02:23:05,160 --> 02:23:06,300
I think the Knights will get

2345
02:23:06,420 --> 02:23:09,660
kind of a way of saying Hey,
fuck you with your ring. Yeah,

2346
02:23:09,660 --> 02:23:09,780
it's

2347
02:23:10,650 --> 02:23:17,070
trying to say yeah. Jacob Jacob
Griffith in six minutes. He's in

2348
02:23:17,070 --> 02:23:21,000
Raleigh, North Carolina. Anthony
Rodriguez 16 at 16 A Waynesboro,

2349
02:23:21,000 --> 02:23:27,870
Virginia. James Howard 6969 in
Indianapolis.

2350
02:23:31,500 --> 02:23:35,490
Very close. 1234448

2351
02:23:35,490 --> 02:23:38,820
By the way Howard wants to do
James wants to say I like to

2352
02:23:38,820 --> 02:23:41,400
call it the guy from the last
show who wouldn't donate because

2353
02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:47,130
of drones as a freeloading?
Douchebag that was a bullshit

2354
02:23:47,130 --> 02:23:49,830
excuse. I'm firmly convinced
that the no agenda show does

2355
02:23:49,830 --> 02:23:54,330
more good than bad. That might
be causing any maybe cause by

2356
02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:56,850
any show funding eventually
migrating to the government

2357
02:23:56,850 --> 02:23:57,900
through taxes. Yeah,

2358
02:23:57,900 --> 02:24:01,410
well, of course there's money
that we pay our taxes believe

2359
02:24:01,410 --> 02:24:04,350
me, the last thing we want is
for them to that's the easy way

2360
02:24:04,350 --> 02:24:08,880
to get us taxes too much tax but
then my money goes to local

2361
02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:10,590
people in Texas.

2362
02:24:11,280 --> 02:24:15,150
Like media LLC, that's where
most of you Yeah, of course 5670

2363
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:22,350
At least for now. Pedro Gonzalez
Gonzalez in 55 Divide New York

2364
02:24:22,350 --> 02:24:27,150
New York. Sam men are bucks Hill
south. Whatever bucks Hill South

2365
02:24:27,150 --> 02:24:30,780
is in Australia again. 50 Double
nickels on the dime. We get one

2366
02:24:30,810 --> 02:24:37,380
a show. Can Can Catriona cat
throat Catriona? Thanks Scott

2367
02:24:37,380 --> 02:24:43,710
Scott Catriona photography $2.33
Christopher Walker 50 David

2368
02:24:43,710 --> 02:24:49,050
Becker 50. Chuck Boyce 50
Patrick Mac Makeham. It'd be the

2369
02:24:49,050 --> 02:24:52,080
last 50 He's in I hate to
mention, but Matt Carver's in

2370
02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:57,300
Sheboygan and Pat maqams in
Vermont, New York. Are you going

2371
02:24:57,300 --> 02:24:59,400
to want to thank them and
everyone else who's contributed

2372
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:01,860
lesser amounts for the show 528

2373
02:25:02,010 --> 02:25:07,230
We do indeed. Thank you because,
well, there you go. Could you

2374
02:25:07,230 --> 02:25:10,380
get any of this conversation? I
think, by the way, just so you

2375
02:25:10,380 --> 02:25:14,610
know, none of that was
rehearsed. I had no idea what

2376
02:25:14,610 --> 02:25:17,250
clips John had. I didn't know he
was coming up with that. I mean,

2377
02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:20,580
that was I think we float in and
out for like, 25 minutes there,

2378
02:25:20,580 --> 02:25:23,460
John. Just going back and forth.
That was pretty outrageous.

2379
02:25:23,609 --> 02:25:24,359
It happens.

2380
02:25:25,410 --> 02:25:26,640
We don't talk.

2381
02:25:28,110 --> 02:25:36,420
No, we don't. I mean, come on.
Why would we? Really? Stinky he

2382
02:25:36,420 --> 02:25:40,290
gave me crap. This guy, Adam
curry on the Twitter. I do.

2383
02:25:41,190 --> 02:25:42,900
Crazy analysis is

2384
02:25:43,170 --> 02:25:46,800
Oh, is that what I said? Or did
I say stop with the amateur

2385
02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:51,450
analysis? Tail did not fall off.
slavers? I didn't say shut up.

2386
02:25:51,450 --> 02:25:54,900
Slave. You said the tail fell
off. I said no. Didn't fall off.

2387
02:25:54,900 --> 02:25:57,750
Never said it fell off. I says
it could have fallen off. It's

2388
02:25:57,750 --> 02:25:58,230
not what

2389
02:25:58,230 --> 02:26:04,980
you said. Ah. That's not what
you said. Oh, that's not what

2390
02:26:04,980 --> 02:26:07,500
you said. You said the tail
fell. That's exactly what you

2391
02:26:07,500 --> 02:26:08,730
said. Oh, no, no, no, you

2392
02:26:08,730 --> 02:26:09,450
can't reach with

2393
02:26:09,480 --> 02:26:12,870
tweets. Okay. Should I read it
to you? No. Yeah, no, I'm

2394
02:26:12,870 --> 02:26:16,140
reading it to you now. To you
the guy that's always so by the

2395
02:26:16,140 --> 02:26:19,470
way you your artwork is
beautiful on your Twitter. What

2396
02:26:19,470 --> 02:26:21,510
is that? Is that? Van Gogh?

2397
02:26:22,440 --> 02:26:23,520
No, it's me.

2398
02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:27,840
You did that? Yeah. That that
green thing?

2399
02:26:28,020 --> 02:26:30,540
Yeah. Really? Gray Marsh farms.

2400
02:26:30,660 --> 02:26:33,960
That's beautiful. Yeah, how can
I yell at you now you're

2401
02:26:33,960 --> 02:26:34,980
sensitive man.

2402
02:26:35,370 --> 02:26:36,780
I am I probably

2403
02:26:38,910 --> 02:26:44,400
was about the airplane and use
and you said Yeah, and yeah. guy

2404
02:26:44,400 --> 02:26:47,130
sitting in the bathroom. blew it
up tail fell off.

2405
02:26:47,340 --> 02:26:50,610
That's exactly what I said that
made this up. Okay,

2406
02:26:51,060 --> 02:26:55,080
now you're gonna have to wait. I
will find it and you tweet a lot

2407
02:26:55,980 --> 02:26:58,290
more How annoying is that? Is

2408
02:26:58,830 --> 02:27:03,150
How many followers do you have?
Are you tweet the more followers

2409
02:27:03,150 --> 02:27:06,840
you get? I don't like logging if
you don't blog much nobody

2410
02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:09,690
follows your blog ever keep
looking.

2411
02:27:10,290 --> 02:27:16,710
I don't I don't hear I'm gonna
kids playing you do tweet a lot

2412
02:27:16,710 --> 02:27:17,730
of nonsense

2413
02:27:18,750 --> 02:27:22,140
tweet any nonsense Yeah, my some
of this stuff that seems like

2414
02:27:22,140 --> 02:27:24,990
nonsense. It's just me
responding to someone you have

2415
02:27:24,990 --> 02:27:30,150
to read those Hey, by the way,
you know when they mentioned

2416
02:27:30,150 --> 02:27:33,450
earlier in the show that guy who
did they stay mentioned that

2417
02:27:33,450 --> 02:27:37,620
Chinese version of Twitter and
then when they go to English, we

2418
02:27:37,620 --> 02:27:39,150
should be members of this.

2419
02:27:39,449 --> 02:27:43,139
Okay, hold on a second. So I
gotta find it. Yeah, I found it

2420
02:27:43,709 --> 02:27:47,459
and it was to Eve connected and
that's what I responded to it

2421
02:27:47,459 --> 02:27:52,349
wasn't even to you and Eve
connected had because this was

2422
02:27:52,409 --> 02:27:58,019
it was valid. It said it's only
the six week cycle if it's

2423
02:27:58,019 --> 02:28:01,499
terror related and you said how
did the tail fall off?

2424
02:28:02,400 --> 02:28:05,550
Ah, is that saying how did the
tail fall off saying that the

2425
02:28:05,550 --> 02:28:10,200
tail fell off? Yeah, you said
and you can rewind the tape Yes.

2426
02:28:10,320 --> 02:28:13,260
You got that? Yes. So you said
the tail fell yes when

2427
02:28:13,260 --> 02:28:16,200
you question how the tail fell
off that means you believe the

2428
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:20,160
tail fell off which is should
all which shouldn't be with two

2429
02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:21,780
F's not one by the way

2430
02:28:21,810 --> 02:28:28,230
whatever. It was very funny.
Belly Yes that one and

2431
02:28:28,230 --> 02:28:31,410
then I said all I said was
please stop with the amateur

2432
02:28:31,410 --> 02:28:35,310
analysis the tail did not fall
off and then you came back and

2433
02:28:35,310 --> 02:28:39,120
tail on it and fell off and that
No it did not fall off. It was

2434
02:28:39,120 --> 02:28:40,140
chopped off

2435
02:28:40,500 --> 02:28:43,080
and then it chopped off it was
get banged and fell off.

2436
02:28:43,110 --> 02:28:46,110
No it did not fall off. And then
you come back and you say

2437
02:28:46,380 --> 02:28:49,770
on there this knot on there.
It's fallen off.

2438
02:28:50,220 --> 02:28:53,910
It's not it doesn't falling off
is different than being chopped

2439
02:28:53,910 --> 02:28:54,450
off.

2440
02:28:55,170 --> 02:28:58,110
It wasn't chopped up. There was
no big knife out of the sky

2441
02:28:58,110 --> 02:29:01,140
chopping it off it No, no off
the plate.

2442
02:29:01,170 --> 02:29:05,070
It got chopped off by the
sidewall it was chopped off by

2443
02:29:05,070 --> 02:29:08,910
the sea wall and then you come
back and say this is Twitter not

2444
02:29:08,910 --> 02:29:12,330
a place for your Shut up slave
invectives which meant I had to

2445
02:29:12,330 --> 02:29:16,650
go to the dictionary to look up
the word invectives. Which

2446
02:29:16,650 --> 02:29:21,360
means, which means like, which
is why you use the word, which

2447
02:29:21,360 --> 02:29:25,080
means insulting or whatever, I
didn't insult you and then I

2448
02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:28,890
said, categorizing amateurish
and grossly inaccurate

2449
02:29:28,890 --> 02:29:32,160
conjecture is hardly invective.

2450
02:29:32,640 --> 02:29:35,250
The tail did not that tweet I
had given up on this

2451
02:29:35,250 --> 02:29:38,940
conversation already. The tail
did not fall off. No, no, there

2452
02:29:38,940 --> 02:29:42,840
was a tail on there. Yeah, sure.
It was a shop dog.

2453
02:29:43,350 --> 02:29:46,800
Regardless, it did prove the
point that Twitter is nothing

2454
02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:49,170
but a big global schoolyard of
people

2455
02:29:49,170 --> 02:29:51,600
just bad is Google Plus No. And
I

2456
02:29:51,600 --> 02:29:55,230
loved your article, by the way,
love the PC Magazine, which I

2457
02:29:55,230 --> 02:29:58,230
think was Google Plus blows
chunks. Was that the title of

2458
02:29:58,230 --> 02:29:58,560
it?

2459
02:29:58,800 --> 02:30:06,810
It was close. Got some guys on
Google Plus just as usual? Holy

2460
02:30:06,810 --> 02:30:12,450
crap warehouse so how can Google
Plus be dead? Where else can I

2461
02:30:12,450 --> 02:30:13,920
post a picture of Rob?

2462
02:30:13,950 --> 02:30:16,170
This is what a guy said he
didn't say it was dead by the

2463
02:30:16,170 --> 02:30:16,500
way.

2464
02:30:16,680 --> 02:30:19,530
I never said was dead. I just
thought it was a loser. He's

2465
02:30:19,530 --> 02:30:24,360
Where else can I post a picture
of Robert Scoble with a caption

2466
02:30:24,480 --> 02:30:31,620
and get 500 page views and
500,000 500,000 Page bots, bots,

2467
02:30:31,740 --> 02:30:35,640
and besides the bots, but my
comment was, if that's true,

2468
02:30:35,670 --> 02:30:37,470
this thing is worse off than I
thought

2469
02:30:37,470 --> 02:30:41,670
exactly. Who wants to be a part
of that as a part of a picture

2470
02:30:41,670 --> 02:30:48,240
of Robert Scoble getting 500
million views five was 5 billion

2471
02:30:48,240 --> 02:30:51,510
the number right? Yeah, that was
I just don't like Google

2472
02:30:51,750 --> 02:30:55,560
Finance. It's just annoying.
It's it's Twitter on steroids.

2473
02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:59,820
Take this, take this. Now. If
you go and look. Now, all the

2474
02:30:59,820 --> 02:31:02,370
people that have been at these
dinner parties, especially the

2475
02:31:02,370 --> 02:31:05,640
women, if you look if they have
Twitter accounts, if you look at

2476
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:08,370
their Twitter accounts, these
are highly educated,

2477
02:31:08,430 --> 02:31:13,770
sophisticated, very, very, very
respectable women. They get on

2478
02:31:13,770 --> 02:31:20,850
Twitter, and it's like, you
Republicans suck. You're dumb.

2479
02:31:21,540 --> 02:31:22,890
You're dumb Republican

2480
02:31:22,890 --> 02:31:24,090
is literally

2481
02:31:24,090 --> 02:31:27,420
that I'm not making these words
up. I'm like, You are an

2482
02:31:27,420 --> 02:31:31,800
intelligent woman. And you're
sitting on Twitter going era you

2483
02:31:31,800 --> 02:31:36,360
Republicans are just lame. It's
like you're on the schoolyard

2484
02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:42,750
yelling to the other side. What
is this behavior? What is it? We

2485
02:31:42,750 --> 02:31:48,240
are all still six years old? And
you and I were doing the same?

2486
02:31:48,930 --> 02:31:52,410
Yes, six. Why? No. Well, okay,
now anyway.

2487
02:31:53,850 --> 02:31:57,090
We got to finish up the dinner.
You never finished the show?

2488
02:31:57,090 --> 02:31:57,390
Yes.

2489
02:31:57,390 --> 02:32:00,330
Hold on. John. I have like 20
things I got to do. One is

2490
02:32:00,330 --> 02:32:05,460
boruch.org/and trying to play
that for the fast past 10

2491
02:32:05,460 --> 02:32:10,020
minutes and not that one. We got
it. I got like birthdays and

2492
02:32:10,020 --> 02:32:18,270
stuff. Oh. All kinds of
important. Evelyn Becerra says

2493
02:32:18,270 --> 02:32:21,660
Happy Birthday to your hubby.
Diego Medina who celebrates

2494
02:32:21,690 --> 02:32:26,610
today that being July 7 In the
year of our Lord 2013 country on

2495
02:32:26,610 --> 02:32:32,010
a Scots congratulates her other
half turns 33 today and

2496
02:32:32,010 --> 02:32:35,850
celebrating tomorrow. The lovely
and talented Miss Mickey will be

2497
02:32:35,850 --> 02:32:38,430
celebrating her birthday so that
should be a fun day. Happy

2498
02:32:38,430 --> 02:32:41,550
birthday to all of you from your
buddies and lovers here at the

2499
02:32:41,550 --> 02:32:47,430
no agenda show. Then we have a
couple of titles. Sir Dr.

2500
02:32:47,430 --> 02:32:51,900
Sharkey now becomes barren sir
Dr. Sharkey, protector of the

2501
02:32:51,930 --> 02:32:56,610
Great Smoky Mountains. And Sir
Mark Dytham becomes the Baron of

2502
02:32:56,610 --> 02:33:01,440
Tokyo and Dame Astrid which I
don't know why it's not on here

2503
02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:08,400
I'm putting on right now. Astrid
becomes the VI Countess. Is that

2504
02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:11,490
how you pronounce vi Countess?
Yeah, the VI Countess Countess

2505
02:33:11,490 --> 02:33:17,100
of Tokyo. What does she get to
do as a as a as a VI Countess?

2506
02:33:17,100 --> 02:33:17,970
Is there some special

2507
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:25,410
execute anyone at her own will?
Just like the Brits.

2508
02:33:29,220 --> 02:33:35,100
She can execute anyone at her
beckon at her beck and call, and

2509
02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:39,360
we have oh, this is very nice.
We have a night and we have one

2510
02:33:39,360 --> 02:33:42,780
or two. Let me see. We have 19
to do so let's go out the swords

2511
02:33:42,780 --> 02:33:46,260
here. John. If you can grab your
sword then that will be perfect.

2512
02:33:47,370 --> 02:33:50,670
John Reichert or I think it'd be
Reichard, we think would be

2513
02:33:50,670 --> 02:33:55,740
Riker, John. Ri ch Margarita
Reichert. I record record. I'll

2514
02:33:55,740 --> 02:33:58,860
take this later. John, would you
please step forward because you

2515
02:33:58,860 --> 02:34:01,230
have contributed to the best
podcast and university amount of

2516
02:34:01,230 --> 02:34:05,070
$1,000 more so we hereby
pronounce the Sir John Knight

2517
02:34:05,070 --> 02:34:07,620
and the norgine Roundtable and
for you, I have reserved hookers

2518
02:34:07,620 --> 02:34:09,690
and blow over and poison
Chardonnay hot pants and booze.

2519
02:34:09,690 --> 02:34:12,630
longhaired heavy metal guys and
Scotch went to be a little less

2520
02:34:12,630 --> 02:34:15,210
limited Rosae Gosh isn't sock a
buck in the middle of bar hits

2521
02:34:15,210 --> 02:34:18,120
and bourbon sparkling cider and
escorts and mutton and Mead

2522
02:34:18,330 --> 02:34:21,810
right here at the table that is
round with all of our Knights

2523
02:34:21,840 --> 02:34:26,640
and Dames. And of course, along
with this comes a certificate

2524
02:34:26,640 --> 02:34:29,520
and you should be receiving that
at some point.

2525
02:34:30,000 --> 02:34:35,130
Either point of business of
announcement. No agenda show I'd

2526
02:34:35,130 --> 02:34:39,030
like to announce that Eric de
shield has taken over the

2527
02:34:39,030 --> 02:34:43,950
delivery and customer service
regarding the rings. Yeah.

2528
02:34:45,480 --> 02:34:47,190
That means rings are really
coming.

2529
02:34:47,580 --> 02:34:51,360
So if you did so make sure you
send your note to a no edge

2530
02:34:51,390 --> 02:34:55,620
rings at no agenda. nation.com
And I might add a lot of the

2531
02:34:55,620 --> 02:34:59,850
people that didn't get rings.
Mimi gave up finally she says a

2532
02:34:59,850 --> 02:35:04,350
guy I says, I said what's your
ring sizes? I don't know. She's

2533
02:35:04,350 --> 02:35:09,390
once you find out she's I don't
care. It just became this kind

2534
02:35:09,390 --> 02:35:11,730
of you know she couldn't get
information she'd be good and

2535
02:35:11,730 --> 02:35:17,520
she but she's not like Eric Eric
is a born you somebody should

2536
02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:23,010
just hire him for like $250,000
to manage customer relations. He

2537
02:35:23,010 --> 02:35:25,650
could run Amazon he actually
wrote a customer relations

2538
02:35:25,650 --> 02:35:26,790
management package

2539
02:35:26,790 --> 02:35:29,610
and he's extremely good at it.
Yeah,

2540
02:35:29,640 --> 02:35:33,780
I mean, he's been the most
annoying but when it comes to

2541
02:35:33,780 --> 02:35:37,260
customers, but this is a please
hire him.

2542
02:35:37,320 --> 02:35:44,250
Can I can I give an outsider's
view he is fantastic when it

2543
02:35:44,250 --> 02:35:49,050
comes to this kind of stuff. He
went and getting things done and

2544
02:35:49,260 --> 02:35:53,070
you know, I'm I'm very Oh, I'm
horrible when you got to sign

2545
02:35:53,070 --> 02:35:55,800
this or approve this or
whatever. And he's very good at

2546
02:35:55,950 --> 02:35:58,980
coming back at it and asking and
you know, never annoyed or

2547
02:35:58,980 --> 02:36:01,980
whatever, never annoying. And
eventually I'll do what he wants

2548
02:36:01,980 --> 02:36:07,290
me to do. For some reason,
within the family, this is

2549
02:36:07,290 --> 02:36:12,240
nightmarish. I just see. See it
happen? Like, wow, I don't know

2550
02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:16,320
you guys. All you guys. This is
funny. The Dvorak family is

2551
02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:16,860
funny.

2552
02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:22,320
We're a larious. You think we're
funny? Yeah. Anyway, so Eric is

2553
02:36:22,320 --> 02:36:26,040
back in charge of this and we'll
catch up to all the you know,

2554
02:36:26,040 --> 02:36:28,980
back stuff which sent him a note
Yeah, rings it no agenda

2555
02:36:28,980 --> 02:36:31,860
nation.com. And if you're gonna
want if you got a ring that

2556
02:36:31,860 --> 02:36:33,990
you'd need, because just got
your knighthood or something,

2557
02:36:33,990 --> 02:36:36,810
you just send them to a mailing
address, which, if you have a

2558
02:36:36,810 --> 02:36:40,830
title, you use something I don't
know, do you put a form together

2559
02:36:40,830 --> 02:36:41,880
and all be taken care of?

2560
02:36:41,910 --> 02:36:45,840
Yes. And he's also working on
the special 33 bags, all kinds

2561
02:36:45,840 --> 02:36:47,850
of stuff. It's good to have him
back in the saddle. We're very

2562
02:36:47,850 --> 02:36:51,450
happy. And but also, if you do
have a position to run an entire

2563
02:36:51,450 --> 02:36:54,990
customer service of Amazon or
eBay or something like that,

2564
02:36:54,990 --> 02:36:57,660
yeah, you this is the guy you
need to hire. I would be very

2565
02:36:57,660 --> 02:36:58,260
sad.

2566
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:02,820
Because we'd be screwed. But he
could probably still do it on a

2567
02:37:02,820 --> 02:37:07,740
Sunday. I don't know he's busy.
He likes to stay busy. So nice

2568
02:37:07,740 --> 02:37:08,460
shape form.

2569
02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:11,940
So I did kind of I'd kind of
finished out the dinner. I mean,

2570
02:37:11,940 --> 02:37:13,650
I had I hit everything right?

2571
02:37:14,010 --> 02:37:17,460
Eat. Oh, everybody say Did they
all drink? Were there bunches?

2572
02:37:17,460 --> 02:37:20,160
lushes were they just
circumspect because they didn't

2573
02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:23,790
want to get outed on the show
for drinking too. Oh,

2574
02:37:23,790 --> 02:37:26,880
no, no, very interesting. So
first of all, it started you

2575
02:37:26,880 --> 02:37:30,720
know, Lorie, who is an artist
she has a 3d printer now. And we

2576
02:37:30,720 --> 02:37:34,440
all had to wait for her to her
3d printed the napkin rings to

2577
02:37:34,440 --> 02:37:40,680
be completed before we could
eat. She was making 3d printing

2578
02:37:40,680 --> 02:37:41,670
napkin rings

2579
02:37:41,970 --> 02:37:44,520
Yeah, well that's what you know.
I've thought about getting a 3d

2580
02:37:44,520 --> 02:37:49,110
That's all you do. I ended up
doing I don't need more napkins.

2581
02:37:50,790 --> 02:37:55,500
What do you make napkin ring?
Okay, great. That she lowered

2582
02:37:55,500 --> 02:37:57,990
the bar. She says she lowered
the bar because it's my turn

2583
02:37:57,990 --> 02:38:02,850
next. And she she made gourmet
hamburgers. Oh,

2584
02:38:03,030 --> 02:38:06,270
she lowered the bar. That was
her excuse because you're next

2585
02:38:06,270 --> 02:38:07,860
and she figures you're like
allows she

2586
02:38:07,860 --> 02:38:11,010
did she didn't say because I'm
next. But she said I'm lowering

2587
02:38:11,010 --> 02:38:14,430
the bar because she didn't want
this thing to turn into. This is

2588
02:38:14,430 --> 02:38:18,240
a very interesting group. I
mean, we none of us agrees on

2589
02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:21,030
anything. But yet it's a safe
environment where we all can go

2590
02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:26,220
nuts. It's hard to find that and
with the knowledge, because

2591
02:38:26,220 --> 02:38:30,270
Laurie actually said to
Pennebaker, oh by the way,

2592
02:38:30,420 --> 02:38:35,880
everything you say is going to
be in the pot. In case you

2593
02:38:35,880 --> 02:38:38,820
forgot to notify you everything
you say is on Adam show

2594
02:38:38,820 --> 02:38:39,480
tomorrow.

2595
02:38:40,080 --> 02:38:43,620
I am sure there's a few things
you've left out. Well,

2596
02:38:43,650 --> 02:38:46,620
they deserve Well, of course,
they deserve it now because

2597
02:38:46,620 --> 02:38:48,900
they're all you know, Ross and
Laurie. They're getting

2598
02:38:48,900 --> 02:38:52,020
interviewed by NPR so now
they're celebrities. So now

2599
02:38:52,020 --> 02:38:52,860
they're fair game.

2600
02:38:55,620 --> 02:38:59,520
Guys, I think I take everybody's
fair game if they show up with

2601
02:38:59,520 --> 02:38:59,850
you.

2602
02:38:59,880 --> 02:39:04,770
Yeah, so the pennant Baker's
lovely I don't know if they're

2603
02:39:04,770 --> 02:39:08,490
either going to be in the in the
core group. But this this was, I

2604
02:39:08,490 --> 02:39:13,740
think, at the end there, because
we did have two vodka drinks.

2605
02:39:14,310 --> 02:39:17,190
Some not champagne. What do you
call it? Prosecco. I

2606
02:39:17,190 --> 02:39:18,750
know that you really can't
drink.

2607
02:39:20,730 --> 02:39:24,090
Um, you know what I have to
admit, I'm very very careful

2608
02:39:24,120 --> 02:39:27,300
during these dinners, because I
need to record in my head. I

2609
02:39:27,300 --> 02:39:30,720
can't be like writing stuff down
or like talking to just talking

2610
02:39:30,720 --> 02:39:35,850
to the microphone. And Nikki is
actually she's, she's hardcore

2611
02:39:35,850 --> 02:39:40,140
during these dinners. Because
she's the one that says guys I

2612
02:39:40,140 --> 02:39:50,370
have a gun. I love my gun. Or
during the during the, the the

2613
02:39:50,370 --> 02:39:54,810
abortion debate Nikki's like,
you know, I got I got him I got

2614
02:39:54,810 --> 02:39:58,890
a problem with this abortion
thing. Like yes, she's great.

2615
02:39:58,920 --> 02:40:02,640
You know, she is She's like,
just you know, you gotta fire

2616
02:40:02,670 --> 02:40:05,820
here's Mickey. Oh, I have a can
of gasoline. I'm just gonna

2617
02:40:05,820 --> 02:40:10,530
throw it right on top. And it's
fantastic because she she can

2618
02:40:10,530 --> 02:40:14,430
lay into people like anybody I
just sat back I'm like okay,

2619
02:40:14,430 --> 02:40:17,760
this is good I'm gonna watch
this one take place and it's

2620
02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:20,790
just it's nice to see these
different opinions and I did get

2621
02:40:20,790 --> 02:40:21,960
a beautiful email

2622
02:40:23,130 --> 02:40:24,390
from one of those the wine

2623
02:40:25,890 --> 02:40:30,690
we had I don't remember there
was yes I do. It was a no I

2624
02:40:30,690 --> 02:40:34,380
don't remember was it was it was
a local wine. We have good wine

2625
02:40:34,380 --> 02:40:38,880
here in Texas. We're pretty good
wine. I think I John, I don't

2626
02:40:38,880 --> 02:40:40,890
remember why did you do have to
record this now?

2627
02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:43,560
No, I'm just wondering I just
thought it might you might think

2628
02:40:43,560 --> 02:40:46,770
it was a interesting group. But
I think it wasn't last time and

2629
02:40:46,770 --> 02:40:50,790
very high in Austin kind of toy.
hoity toity. Yes. Probably roll

2630
02:40:50,790 --> 02:40:54,300
out some Latour or something?
No, like, like our like our

2631
02:40:54,300 --> 02:40:55,320
architects do

2632
02:40:55,350 --> 02:40:58,920
know we don't have to bring
casually they bring a six liter

2633
02:40:58,920 --> 02:41:03,060
bottle. I don't think anyone of
this dinner has looked to our

2634
02:41:03,060 --> 02:41:07,740
money. This is intellectual
hoity toity university people

2635
02:41:08,130 --> 02:41:13,830
that do okay. We're not super
rich. We're not sure it's drink

2636
02:41:13,830 --> 02:41:14,400
good wine.

2637
02:41:15,420 --> 02:41:19,380
litoria do $6,000 bottle of a
tour. Yeah,

2638
02:41:19,560 --> 02:41:21,990
yeah, but that's a six liter
special bottle. That's really

2639
02:41:21,990 --> 02:41:25,590
old. I mean, this this different
than Yeah, I would say Latour is

2640
02:41:25,590 --> 02:41:29,040
out. Yeah, it's because of the
Chinese by the way, I'd say that

2641
02:41:29,040 --> 02:41:31,470
used to get on store. I've
gotten the tours cheapest. 50

2642
02:41:31,470 --> 02:41:32,220
bucks a bottle.

2643
02:41:32,250 --> 02:41:34,950
Yeah. Well, I would serve that
if I had it.

2644
02:41:35,610 --> 02:41:38,220
But you know, it's good.
Similarly good wine.

2645
02:41:38,490 --> 02:41:39,780
Okay, well, I'm next.

2646
02:41:39,900 --> 02:41:42,840
I'm sorry. I'm just gonna stop
talking. I'm

2647
02:41:42,840 --> 02:41:47,280
sorry. It's alright. So what I
did get a beautiful email from

2648
02:41:47,280 --> 02:41:51,330
one of the women at the dinner
is saying, hey, you know, we

2649
02:41:51,330 --> 02:41:55,650
feel so fortunate that we can
have dinner with friends who

2650
02:41:55,650 --> 02:41:58,620
don't necessarily have the same
opinion because every other

2651
02:41:58,620 --> 02:42:02,670
place we go, everyone set talks
and all nods in agreement. And

2652
02:42:02,670 --> 02:42:04,140
it's this boring.

2653
02:42:05,430 --> 02:42:06,960
Boring who needs that? Yeah,

2654
02:42:06,960 --> 02:42:10,260
right. Exactly. Exactly. So now
you and I have

2655
02:42:10,590 --> 02:42:13,710
by the way, I wouldn't say this.
I have been in these situations

2656
02:42:13,710 --> 02:42:18,450
because you know, obviously my
opinion is is libertarian style

2657
02:42:18,450 --> 02:42:20,220
and it has certain things when
you get a group especially

2658
02:42:20,220 --> 02:42:22,740
around the Bay Area, everyone's
a Democrat. You get in these

2659
02:42:22,740 --> 02:42:25,710
groups that are all nodding like
you say, and then if you start

2660
02:42:25,710 --> 02:42:27,780
bringing some of this stuff up,
you will have one or two of

2661
02:42:27,780 --> 02:42:29,730
these people that will never
speak to you again ever life

2662
02:42:29,730 --> 02:42:30,360
ever again,

2663
02:42:30,390 --> 02:42:35,670
though avoid you like the
plague. Yeah, yep, true. Toxic

2664
02:42:35,700 --> 02:42:40,290
but now you and I you my friend,
and I have to work on the dinner

2665
02:42:40,320 --> 02:42:43,560
the next dinner because it's
going to be me. We've done the

2666
02:42:43,560 --> 02:42:49,080
double dip recession slave stew
now we have to do something. I

2667
02:42:49,080 --> 02:42:50,550
got to up my game.

2668
02:42:50,940 --> 02:42:51,750
Coco van

2669
02:42:53,250 --> 02:42:56,910
Hmm. Interesting. Do you think
that's the way to go Coco van?

2670
02:42:57,870 --> 02:43:00,480
Yeah, did fly. People haven't
had it for a while and when you

2671
02:43:00,480 --> 02:43:02,340
have it so it's always a
pleasant dish.

2672
02:43:02,370 --> 02:43:03,120
Yes. Yeah, it's

2673
02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:06,450
true. Okay, but you know what, I
think it would really do it for

2674
02:43:06,450 --> 02:43:09,600
you in this group. Oryx

2675
02:43:13,230 --> 02:43:16,470
where first we show a little
movie of me killing the oryx.

2676
02:43:18,780 --> 02:43:21,150
And then and then still holding.

2677
02:43:21,900 --> 02:43:29,460
It's like, here it is. Bon
appetit, baby. Oh, wow. Okay, so

2678
02:43:29,460 --> 02:43:31,680
that was the that was the
dinner. It was very

2679
02:43:31,680 --> 02:43:34,920
entertaining, very educational.
I feel very fortunate that I can

2680
02:43:34,920 --> 02:43:37,740
bring this information to y'all
because we would not have known

2681
02:43:37,740 --> 02:43:40,590
about this type of research. We
would not there's a lot of stuff

2682
02:43:40,590 --> 02:43:43,470
we wouldn't know. And so I hope
to keep it keep it all common.

2683
02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:49,110
Do we I think we should just
briefly touch on Egypt. Before

2684
02:43:49,110 --> 02:43:49,530
we go.

2685
02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:52,860
Briefly, should I'm trying to
see if there's anything here I

2686
02:43:52,860 --> 02:43:53,730
have a need.

2687
02:43:53,760 --> 02:43:58,830
The thing I have on on Egypt is
that remember, we were tracking

2688
02:43:58,860 --> 02:44:01,740
el barra de and everyone was
saying, Oh, well, Barrett is

2689
02:44:01,740 --> 02:44:05,580
going to be Prime Minister. And
they announced him on, you know,

2690
02:44:05,610 --> 02:44:09,480
in the media, except they forgot
to tell the Egyptian people

2691
02:44:10,890 --> 02:44:14,820
because he's like, he's not
prime minister. He's doing his

2692
02:44:14,820 --> 02:44:20,100
best to pretend it's just
hilarious. And he's like, and

2693
02:44:20,100 --> 02:44:23,970
he's doing interviews and but
everywhere today, and this is

2694
02:44:23,970 --> 02:44:29,130
Sunday. Everyone's reporting
well, maybe he's not exactly you

2695
02:44:29,130 --> 02:44:33,210
know, not everyone. Not
everybody agrees. And this guy

2696
02:44:33,210 --> 02:44:35,940
was just, and he is from the
International Crisis Group. This

2697
02:44:35,940 --> 02:44:40,260
is a Soros guy. Yes. This is a
guy who, who essentially, you

2698
02:44:40,260 --> 02:44:44,880
know, is a complete shill. And
this revolution this there was

2699
02:44:44,880 --> 02:44:47,730
another this was kind of
interesting. I think this is

2700
02:44:47,730 --> 02:44:50,940
along the same lines propaganda.
This is an Egyptian who showed

2701
02:44:50,940 --> 02:44:54,330
up on YouTube with a message to
President Obama. He said Mr.

2702
02:44:54,330 --> 02:44:58,290
Obama. I'm talking to you today.

2703
02:44:59,100 --> 02:45:03,090
On behalf Have a lot of
Egyptians who wants to deliver a

2704
02:45:03,090 --> 02:45:09,870
message not only for you, for
all the American citizens leave

2705
02:45:10,020 --> 02:45:14,190
us alone. All the families in
Egypt want to tell you this

2706
02:45:14,190 --> 02:45:21,660
message. leave Egypt alone.
Please, Mr. Obama, and stop

2707
02:45:21,690 --> 02:45:27,840
supporting the terrorists. Stop
supporting the Friends of Amara

2708
02:45:27,840 --> 02:45:33,570
Brockman. The terrorist who
killed lots of Americans stop

2709
02:45:33,600 --> 02:45:39,630
supporting the allies of Ayman
al Zawahiri of Pakistan of

2710
02:45:39,660 --> 02:45:44,250
Taliban. You are giving them the
full support by calling what's

2711
02:45:44,250 --> 02:45:49,620
happening in Egypt. A military
group is not a military group.

2712
02:45:50,220 --> 02:45:55,680
It's a revolution done by a
civilized people, civilized

2713
02:45:55,710 --> 02:45:59,670
Egyptians who are counted
officially more than 30 million.

2714
02:46:00,180 --> 02:46:03,000
Here's what I find interesting.
But what can I say something for

2715
02:46:03,000 --> 02:46:08,370
at least? Putin? Da

2716
02:46:09,600 --> 02:46:13,740
da Yeah, the guy holds the whole
structure. What that guy said

2717
02:46:13,740 --> 02:46:17,580
was totally Russia, Russia
today. Yes, yes. Oh, crap.

2718
02:46:18,570 --> 02:46:22,590
And here's here's what I find
interesting. Do you think that

2719
02:46:22,590 --> 02:46:27,090
the American armed forces could
ever do this in America where?

2720
02:46:27,450 --> 02:46:29,670
Oh, well, we'll just remove the
government because the people

2721
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:30,180
want it.

2722
02:46:31,290 --> 02:46:36,480
I think they had their shot with
Smedley Butler. Back in the 30s

2723
02:46:36,480 --> 02:46:40,770
with the Roosevelt the plot the
plot that get Roosevelt out, and

2724
02:46:40,770 --> 02:46:43,410
it was a big plot all Democrats
by the way, it was all the

2725
02:46:43,410 --> 02:46:46,290
Democrat industrialists, which
is where most of the money is

2726
02:46:47,130 --> 02:46:50,910
decided that people can look
this up. It's look up Smedley

2727
02:46:50,910 --> 02:46:54,570
Butler. But it was very it was
very cold. It's called Business

2728
02:46:54,570 --> 02:46:57,690
Smedley Butler was named Charles
at the time had decided given it

2729
02:46:57,690 --> 02:47:00,750
to go ahead. It would have
happened. It's too late now.

2730
02:47:00,750 --> 02:47:02,340
It'll never happen. It's called

2731
02:47:02,340 --> 02:47:06,690
the Business plot is what John
was referring to. And I think it

2732
02:47:06,690 --> 02:47:11,340
was General Smedley Butler, who
said all war is a racket. I

2733
02:47:11,340 --> 02:47:12,390
think that was his quote

2734
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:14,850
by he wrote a little book on
that it's very small book, but

2735
02:47:14,850 --> 02:47:16,350
it's this war is a racket war

2736
02:47:16,350 --> 02:47:18,510
has arrived. And it did say war,
all war.

2737
02:47:19,170 --> 02:47:25,440
War. I'm sure it's just war, I
believe you. So anyway, so

2738
02:47:25,440 --> 02:47:28,140
Butler nixed the whole thing.
And that was the end of it, it

2739
02:47:28,140 --> 02:47:31,860
would have happened, and then
we'd be screwed in that cycle. I

2740
02:47:31,860 --> 02:47:35,190
think that this particular
situation in Egypt is has to

2741
02:47:35,460 --> 02:47:39,960
wake up the military in Turkey,
because the church is doing this

2742
02:47:39,960 --> 02:47:42,570
constantly. But of course
there's Ertegun outflank them.

2743
02:47:42,570 --> 02:47:45,510
And but according to today's New
York Times, let me grab the

2744
02:47:45,510 --> 02:47:46,620
front page. Okay.

2745
02:47:47,670 --> 02:47:48,330
Oh, can I?

2746
02:47:50,700 --> 02:47:52,770
Yeah, you might as well might as
well hold on a second.

2747
02:47:53,280 --> 02:47:56,700
Whereas we haven't done this in
a while actually.

2748
02:48:05,760 --> 02:48:08,580
Two more two headlines on the
front page above the fold that

2749
02:48:08,580 --> 02:48:11,910
are worth looking at. They have
the plane on fire, of course,

2750
02:48:12,150 --> 02:48:14,640
one of them but which is not
what I'm talking about. But you

2751
02:48:14,640 --> 02:48:19,680
should at least know this in
secret. The court vastly

2752
02:48:19,680 --> 02:48:21,810
broadens the power of NSA.

2753
02:48:22,590 --> 02:48:25,080
Oh, this is what I was talking
about this. This is the whole

2754
02:48:25,080 --> 02:48:26,400
New York Times article.

2755
02:48:26,610 --> 02:48:29,430
Yeah, it's right down the front
page. And the front page just

2756
02:48:29,430 --> 02:48:34,530
below the fire burning plane
Morsi spurned deals, seeking a

2757
02:48:34,530 --> 02:48:39,330
seeing the military as tamed,
because he had figured that he

2758
02:48:39,330 --> 02:48:42,990
had decapitated the military
knowing that they could pull a

2759
02:48:42,990 --> 02:48:47,040
stunt like this and got relaxed.
I think this is going on in

2760
02:48:47,040 --> 02:48:51,000
Turkey right now. would make
sense. And if they did, they

2761
02:48:51,000 --> 02:48:53,880
don't call them these the Turks
are irked. Or this is a

2762
02:48:53,880 --> 02:48:57,480
situation where the middle class
what's left of them. And many of

2763
02:48:57,480 --> 02:49:01,350
the the elites are irked by the
government and the way they're

2764
02:49:01,350 --> 02:49:03,900
handling things and they and
they know how that can be done.

2765
02:49:04,170 --> 02:49:08,310
The easy way to do this is to
just take over the place of the

2766
02:49:08,310 --> 02:49:13,200
military and start over. And I
think it can happen in this

2767
02:49:13,200 --> 02:49:16,110
country in the United States. I
don't see this happening ever

2768
02:49:16,110 --> 02:49:19,470
How do you take any would be
ridiculous we got we have a

2769
02:49:19,470 --> 02:49:22,590
pretty strict strict system. If
it was a parliamentary system

2770
02:49:22,590 --> 02:49:24,930
where somebody could stay in
office forever be a problem,

2771
02:49:24,930 --> 02:49:29,730
right? Because it was a problem
with Roosevelt staying in for

2772
02:49:29,730 --> 02:49:30,600
four terms.

2773
02:49:31,110 --> 02:49:35,820
You feel you still think that
this is I mean, I do this is

2774
02:49:35,820 --> 02:49:42,900
still a Russian slash Chinese
plot. What's happening in Egypt

2775
02:49:42,900 --> 02:49:43,200
Scott,

2776
02:49:43,740 --> 02:49:45,990
the Chinese I think are just
supporters. I don't think

2777
02:49:45,990 --> 02:49:49,920
they're involved Soros from the
intelligence side. I think is a

2778
02:49:49,920 --> 02:49:53,340
totally a Russian do though.
These Russians are sick and

2779
02:49:53,340 --> 02:49:56,730
tired. And I think they've been
given the go ahead by our

2780
02:49:56,790 --> 02:50:01,830
intelligence people. Go ahead,
do is, in particular to, you

2781
02:50:01,830 --> 02:50:05,100
know, do to do because he has
getting blamed for a lot of

2782
02:50:05,100 --> 02:50:07,350
stuff. Yes, like whatever.

2783
02:50:08,550 --> 02:50:10,380
here's the here's the proof.

2784
02:50:10,619 --> 02:50:13,889
Chinese and Russia naval forces
will be putting on a show of

2785
02:50:13,889 --> 02:50:17,279
strength over the next week.
They're holding joint exercises

2786
02:50:17,309 --> 02:50:17,819
in this

2787
02:50:17,820 --> 02:50:21,630
new meme, the show of strength,
show of force show of whatever

2788
02:50:21,630 --> 02:50:25,800
you have Japan. China state run
Xinhua News Agency reports. The

2789
02:50:25,800 --> 02:50:29,280
eight day drill will start
Friday off Vladivostok in

2790
02:50:29,280 --> 02:50:33,690
Russia's Far East, the navies
will use 18 ships, including

2791
02:50:33,690 --> 02:50:37,230
China's latest destroyer.
They'll also have submarines and

2792
02:50:37,230 --> 02:50:41,700
aircraft on hand for the live
fire drills. Shin hardcoded, a

2793
02:50:41,700 --> 02:50:44,880
top general with the Chinese
People's Liberation Army of

2794
02:50:44,880 --> 02:50:48,420
saying the exercises are
designed to boost cooperation

2795
02:50:48,420 --> 02:50:52,680
and capability. He said the two
nations can play a positive role

2796
02:50:52,710 --> 02:50:57,450
in regional security and
stability. Patrolling Japan

2797
02:50:57,990 --> 02:51:02,160
where we've got this is the
whole thing is, do we not? Why?

2798
02:51:02,550 --> 02:51:07,860
Let me ask you this. Why is this
not being reported as a huge

2799
02:51:07,860 --> 02:51:11,880
chilling cold war? Why is this
not being played up? It seems

2800
02:51:11,880 --> 02:51:16,620
like a beautiful script for for
the for the news media. It's

2801
02:51:16,650 --> 02:51:20,130
this fun, it's great. But you
know, it's got all the elements

2802
02:51:20,130 --> 02:51:24,420
you want in it. In fact, I don't
really want them to do it.

2803
02:51:24,420 --> 02:51:27,900
Because now we get to do we get
to do it. We get to analyze the

2804
02:51:27,900 --> 02:51:33,360
phony plane landings and we've
got the everyone yelling in

2805
02:51:33,360 --> 02:51:36,600
South America. I mean, I love
it. I love that with that you're

2806
02:51:36,600 --> 02:51:39,420
leaving it all to us. But why
are you leaving all that meat on

2807
02:51:39,420 --> 02:51:40,110
the table?

2808
02:51:40,350 --> 02:51:42,210
I don't know why they're leaving
that meat on the table. And it

2809
02:51:42,210 --> 02:51:45,270
is meat. And in fact, this whole
Putin thing and my favorite

2810
02:51:45,270 --> 02:51:48,630
thing was when he was Did you
see he did you see Putin to his

2811
02:51:48,630 --> 02:51:51,870
press conference about Snowden?
Yeah, what are you saying? Eat

2812
02:51:51,870 --> 02:51:55,380
for one thing. He's got a smirk.
And they kept showing pictures

2813
02:51:55,380 --> 02:51:58,710
of the audience of these of
these recruitment Putin bots,

2814
02:51:58,890 --> 02:52:02,340
kind of doing everything they
can to keep from cracking

2815
02:52:02,400 --> 02:52:03,930
up pretty well. That's, that's

2816
02:52:05,220 --> 02:52:08,850
Putin says, Yeah, we will we
take Snowden in but we'd require

2817
02:52:08,850 --> 02:52:12,210
really, we'd be real strict
about making sure he doesn't do

2818
02:52:12,210 --> 02:52:16,650
any more of these revelations.
Wink wink, nudge nudge. You

2819
02:52:16,650 --> 02:52:20,250
know, we don't like that because
our great friends the United

2820
02:52:20,250 --> 02:52:24,090
States of America is is an
insult to them. We would have to

2821
02:52:24,090 --> 02:52:25,470
put a stop to that.

2822
02:52:25,530 --> 02:52:27,000
We couldn't have any of that.

2823
02:52:28,350 --> 02:52:32,820
phony and he's laughing his eyes
are twinkling. He's just having

2824
02:52:32,820 --> 02:52:36,000
a ball doing this stuff. Because
he's, you know, former KGB so he

2825
02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:39,720
knows all these tricks. Oh, and
I guess you know, it still runs

2826
02:52:39,720 --> 02:52:42,060
the security mechanism. I'm sure
it's

2827
02:52:42,060 --> 02:52:51,600
more like. Hey, Glen, Glen, is
Vlad. Pay pay? Yeah, right. You

2828
02:52:51,600 --> 02:52:53,730
got any more than PowerPoint
stuff? And this shit is

2829
02:52:53,730 --> 02:52:58,710
hilarious. Put some more out
there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Good.

2830
02:52:58,950 --> 02:53:02,460
Excellent. Oh, by the way, I'm
gonna call Leni Riefenstahl. You

2831
02:53:02,460 --> 02:53:08,340
see that she's now publishing.
What Leni Riefenstahl. That's

2832
02:53:08,340 --> 02:53:15,090
not her name. Laura Poitras.
elsley. The filmmaker? Yeah,

2833
02:53:15,090 --> 02:53:19,740
he's now she's now reporting in
Der Spiegel. She's so she's the

2834
02:53:19,740 --> 02:53:22,860
one that got the half a million
dollar payoff. And she's put in

2835
02:53:22,860 --> 02:53:28,590
this report that she has seen
internal documents, which is not

2836
02:53:28,590 --> 02:53:34,050
published. About all the spying
done on Germany. These people

2837
02:53:34,050 --> 02:53:38,220
are agents. And Glenn Greenwald.
You want to have a laugh? Are

2838
02:53:38,220 --> 02:53:39,630
you following his Twitter?

2839
02:53:40,800 --> 02:53:42,090
No, not really. Oh

2840
02:53:42,090 --> 02:53:42,960
my God, John.

2841
02:53:43,320 --> 02:53:45,120
I am following you. But

2842
02:53:45,120 --> 02:53:48,450
I haven't done anything yet. You
just have to go to his Twitter

2843
02:53:48,450 --> 02:53:53,700
and just watch it update. If
he's he's like, Edward really

2844
02:53:53,700 --> 02:53:56,730
wrote that thing in in
WikiLeaks. He just has a problem

2845
02:53:56,730 --> 02:54:03,660
with nouns. From when I kid you
not. This is the stuff he's

2846
02:54:03,660 --> 02:54:08,700
writing. He's defending the
Bogut of Snowden writing on

2847
02:54:08,700 --> 02:54:12,570
WikiLeaks. Glenn Greenwald is
here reporter or what is he?

2848
02:54:13,830 --> 02:54:15,330
What is Glenn Greenwald?

2849
02:54:16,830 --> 02:54:19,290
Well, I don't know what Glenn
Glenn Greenwald is, but he's

2850
02:54:19,290 --> 02:54:21,720
doing everything he can to stay
in the public eye to do a book

2851
02:54:21,720 --> 02:54:24,360
deal. That's the way I see it.
But this is what's so stupid.

2852
02:54:24,360 --> 02:54:28,860
Where's the book? Get it out.
Oh, that's it. That is kind of

2853
02:54:28,860 --> 02:54:31,980
surprising that somebody hasn't
called him to do a book.

2854
02:54:32,340 --> 02:54:35,700
Now maybe the payoff was so huge
just to do all this crap. I

2855
02:54:35,700 --> 02:54:39,060
don't know. I've got so much
stuff we're going to do have to

2856
02:54:39,060 --> 02:54:44,190
do to pass on for Thursday. Let
me see. I've got I've been

2857
02:54:44,190 --> 02:54:47,880
sitting on this Haiti report
from the General Accounting and

2858
02:54:47,880 --> 02:54:51,060
Oversight Office, which is so
damning, and then not a peep in

2859
02:54:51,060 --> 02:54:55,020
the news. So I can just hold on
to that. I think I've had it for

2860
02:54:55,080 --> 02:54:59,790
almost three weeks now. It'll
hold but you can imagine it's

2861
02:54:59,790 --> 02:55:00,570
not Good.

2862
02:55:02,580 --> 02:55:05,790
I got that's it. A lot of the
stuff we do on the show is not

2863
02:55:05,790 --> 02:55:09,150
good, right, except for the show
itself.

2864
02:55:09,870 --> 02:55:14,190
And there you go. I did get a
lot of email about this one

2865
02:55:14,190 --> 02:55:19,680
particular clip, the Los Angeles
show of force, about the, which

2866
02:55:19,680 --> 02:55:23,400
I wish I just wanted to replay
this 15 second clip about the

2867
02:55:23,400 --> 02:55:29,880
holidays being tied to terror
events, which of course is less

2868
02:55:29,880 --> 02:55:33,450
and less going to be this fact
it's not going to be the fourth

2869
02:55:33,450 --> 02:55:37,260
of July. But a lot of people
pointed out several things in

2870
02:55:37,260 --> 02:55:39,900
this in this particular piece of
the clip as we're talking to

2871
02:55:39,900 --> 02:55:43,380
some muckety muck there in Los
Angeles, who was terrorizing

2872
02:55:43,380 --> 02:55:48,960
citizens with police officers in
complete fatigues and camouflage

2873
02:55:48,960 --> 02:55:52,320
combat gear, with automatic
cassette and full automatic

2874
02:55:52,320 --> 02:55:55,350
rifles and night vision goggles
and tanks. Yesterday,

2875
02:55:55,350 --> 02:55:58,230
federal authorities released a
bulletin saying the country is

2876
02:55:58,230 --> 02:55:59,160
on heightened alert.

2877
02:55:59,460 --> 02:56:01,770
Anytime you have a holiday, it's
something that you want to look

2878
02:56:01,770 --> 02:56:06,810
at you, you the Boston bombing
took place on Patriots Day, the

2879
02:56:06,840 --> 02:56:12,360
Time Square incident took place
on May Day, Benghazi on 911.

2880
02:56:13,020 --> 02:56:13,950
Okay, so

2881
02:56:13,980 --> 02:56:17,550
here's here's the things that
people emailed me and we are

2882
02:56:17,550 --> 02:56:23,190
even learning how to listen
better. May Day is really quite

2883
02:56:23,190 --> 02:56:28,380
a cultish celebrate celebration.
If you look into the to the

2884
02:56:28,410 --> 02:56:34,200
cultish parts of May Day. That
is a very weird thing to say

2885
02:56:34,200 --> 02:56:37,680
that, Oh, you know, this took
place on this celebration of

2886
02:56:37,680 --> 02:56:41,610
occultism. Yes, may days, you
know, as a day of labor

2887
02:56:41,610 --> 02:56:44,220
celebration, but if you're
looking to the maypole, and all

2888
02:56:44,220 --> 02:56:47,790
this stuff, there's a lot going
on. But the funniest thing is

2889
02:56:47,790 --> 02:56:52,560
this guy calls 911 a holiday.
That's pretty hilarious.

2890
02:56:53,670 --> 02:56:58,380
Well, it's one of these days.
Right? It will be a holiday,

2891
02:56:58,410 --> 02:57:03,000
like holy crap. How could we
have missed that one? Yeah, is?

2892
02:57:03,540 --> 02:57:05,940
Well, that's why it is the best
podcast in the universe.

2893
02:57:05,970 --> 02:57:09,690
Although we shall never receive
an award for such. It's because

2894
02:57:09,690 --> 02:57:12,210
we have the best producers in
the universe who support the

2895
02:57:12,210 --> 02:57:16,950
program financially and with
content. And that includes my

2896
02:57:16,950 --> 02:57:19,500
friends here in Austin who put
up with me at their dinners.

2897
02:57:22,680 --> 02:57:26,460
But generally, I usually have a
taster. A taster. Yes, somebody

2898
02:57:26,460 --> 02:57:27,330
who tastes your food.

2899
02:57:31,470 --> 02:57:36,330
Alrighty, this is not a bad
plan. Thank you for suggesting

2900
02:57:37,650 --> 02:57:40,170
everybody a little bit longer
normal. But what can I tell you?

2901
02:57:40,170 --> 02:57:42,660
There's just so much going on.
We'll be back with you on

2902
02:57:42,660 --> 02:57:45,390
Thursday. Thank you very much
for your support of the program.

2903
02:57:45,420 --> 02:57:52,950
Remember, divorce iq.org/and, a
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2904
02:57:52,950 --> 02:57:56,520
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2905
02:57:56,520 --> 02:57:59,850
you from the Capitol, the drone
Star state here in Texas at his

2906
02:57:59,850 --> 02:58:02,700
Austin Travis Hide, hide out.
I'm Adam curry in the morning.

2907
02:58:03,780 --> 02:58:07,260
And from Northern Silicon
Valley, where I'm here with the

2908
02:58:07,260 --> 02:58:11,100
crickets crickets John C.
Dvorak. We'll be back on

2909
02:58:11,100 --> 02:58:11,520
Thursday

2910
02:58:11,520 --> 02:58:14,490
with another thrilling episode
of the Best podcast in the

2911
02:58:14,490 --> 02:58:17,400
universe right here on no agenda

2912
02:58:27,240 --> 02:58:30,630
now you know your neighborhood
keep an eye on it. A stranger

2913
02:58:30,630 --> 02:58:33,360
taking a shortcut through the
backyard next door might have

2914
02:58:33,360 --> 02:58:36,510
broken into your neighbor's home
report him report a strange car

2915
02:58:36,510 --> 02:58:39,330
parked illegally might be loaded
with stolen goods waiting to

2916
02:58:39,330 --> 02:58:43,020
make a getaway report it report.
Loud fight next door might be

2917
02:58:43,020 --> 02:58:45,900
the start of a violent crime
report a report you see a

2918
02:58:45,900 --> 02:58:49,020
prowler at night don't frighten
him away by turning on a light

2919
02:58:49,080 --> 02:58:52,080
reporting reporting. Remember,
by helping us apprehend a

2920
02:58:52,080 --> 02:58:55,110
criminal. You will make sure
that you're not his next victim.

2921
02:58:55,830 --> 02:59:00,540
I guess you can sum it up in two
words. Watch that. Get involved.

2922
02:59:01,800 --> 02:59:03,540
If you see something.

2923
02:59:09,750 --> 02:59:14,490
Bullshit, do vorak.org/n A