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Bitching and moaning is part of the process.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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DeVora.

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It's Sunday, October 19th, 2025.

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This is your award-winning GiveOnNation media assassination

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episode 1809.

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This is no agenda.

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Blowing up boats and broadcasting live from the

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heart of the Texas hill country here in

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FEMA region number six.

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In the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley where we've discovered

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that Democrats don't like kings, but they love

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queens.

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I'm John C.

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DeVorak.

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Did Marty write that for you?

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No, I wrote that myself.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.

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I don't know.

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It was a little too good.

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So I did, I followed some of this

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No Kings Day stuff.

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And there's really, there's really two things that

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you can just see happening everywhere.

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Every single one of them.

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And I wouldn't say it was a complete

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failure.

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I mean, they definitely had some crowds here

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and there.

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I thought it was a huge success for

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them.

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Yes, yes.

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That's what, well, that's what I'm saying.

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It was, it was reasonable.

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I'm trying to think, do I have, I

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thought I had it.

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Well, what would be more than reasonable to

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you?

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Well, you know, it was, the thing is,

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it's just everybody was kind of nice.

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You know, just walking around.

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So better would be if they'd write it.

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And actually made a fuss that it pulled

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a George Floyd.

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Yeah, that's an interesting point to make.

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Here's, let's see, let me see.

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I think this is the report I was

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looking for.

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Thousands of people are expected to descend on

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the nation's capital for a No Kings rally.

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Peaceful movement seeks to send a message to

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the Trump administration, saying that America does not

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put up with would-be kings.

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This week, multiple Republican leaders called next week's

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event, I Hate Rally.

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This Hate America rally that they have coming

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up for October 18th.

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The Antifa crowd and the pro-Hamas crowd

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and the Marxists, they're all going to gather

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on the mall.

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This is about one thing and one thing

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only, to score political points with the terrorist

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wing of their party, which is set to

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hold, as Leader Scalise just commented on, a

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Hate America rally in D.C. next week.

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And then October 18th is when the protest

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This will be a Soros paid for protest,

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where his professional protesters show up, the agitators

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show up.

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We'll have to get the National Guard out.

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Hopefully, it'll be peaceful.

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I doubt it.

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So none of that.

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This is not a Hate America rally.

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This was not Antifa.

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wealthy sources, but it wasn't necessarily a George

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Soros-funded organized protest.

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No, the Walton woman is part of this

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funding group.

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Yeah, the independent.org, whatever those people are

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No, it's not independent.

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What is it called?

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Indivisible.

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There we go.

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Indivisible.

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No, but the two things that, well, there

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First of all, everywhere, American flags.

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movement wants to hijack patriotism back from the

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right, if there is such a thing.

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So I was just, I was happy in

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general just to see people with American flags.

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We haven't seen that from the so-called

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left in a long time.

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So I kind of like that.

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But this was the general consensus amongst every

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single person who was interviewed, man on the

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It was always basically this.

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There are many, many reasons I do not

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want to get into all of them because

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I cannot stomach, stomach, stomach, stomach the thought

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of it.

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Literally displayed himself as one with AI-generated

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crowns and by quite literally positioning himself in

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kingly regalia, having a golden ballroom.

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Who needs a golden ballroom?

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It was like there was nothing about policy,

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nothing about Republicans.

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No, it was just to hate Trump.

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To hate Trump.

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And this is my favorite lady.

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There are many, many.

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Oh, oops, sorry.

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That's not the one I meant.

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Here, this one.

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This is the lady.

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No King's Day.

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And why specifically are you out supporting No

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King's Day?

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I think protest is important.

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Why are you protesting?

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How much time do you have?

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What's the main reason you're out here protesting

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President Trump?

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I don't agree with a lot of the

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decisions that are being made.

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Is there any decision in particular you disagree

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with?

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Okay, so I would start with.

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Well, I don't even think, I don't even

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think it's appropriate for me to have this

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interview.

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Yeah, that's correct.

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I have a topper.

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You can top that lady?

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Oh, goodness.

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Oh, yeah.

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Okay, all right.

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I believe this is a topper.

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I have three clips on No King's Day,

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but this one is, I'll start with the

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topper, which is, this is the man on

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the street.

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Yes.

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Okay, here we go.

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Trump's a bitch.

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Yeah, why is that?

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I don't know.

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He's just, we don't like him.

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That's the word around here.

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Any particular reason why you don't like him?

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No clue at all.

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I'm just going with everybody else saying.

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Are you sure that wasn't AI?

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That was real?

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Yeah, there was some guy, a white guy,

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sounded like a black guy.

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Oh, it was a white guy.

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It's even funnier.

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I know.

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Trump's a bitch, man.

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He's a bitch.

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He's a bitch.

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Why?

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I don't know.

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Well, I have just a few quick clips

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because I see you have NPR stuff.

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Well, yeah, to have one more person on

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the street, we should probably play first, which

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is the Unity Unicorn, which is another classic

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in the lines of that first one you

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I am the Unity Unicorn.

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Got my head out of my costume because

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I can't breathe right now.

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But we're here doing a peaceful protest, trying

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to get our democracy back, trying to get

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the current White House impeached and all removed

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for crimes against the United States and against

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our Constitution.

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Everybody here is being peaceful.

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So everybody here is being peaceful.

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I just want it out there.

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For anybody that's out here, we do have

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free water and a cooler.

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I brought some water for everybody in case

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they get thirsty or if somehow pepper spray

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happens to hit them, we have a way

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to wash it out.

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So anyway, this is my little catch up

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for today.

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So hopefully I'll be doing more of these

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protests or hopefully we won't have to.

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See you later.

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Bye.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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And when I look at this group of

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people, I'm like, these are just Americans.

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They're not running around.

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They're not breaking stuff.

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They have been completely brainwashed into one thing

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and one thing only.

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We need our democracy back.

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And that's actually worse than anything because they

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believe they have been completely brainwashed into believing

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we have a democracy.

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You know, and so the chance everything was

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there.

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We love America.

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We have to fight for our democracy.

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If you've been paying attention, if you paid

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attention in high school, junior high or college,

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if you pay attention to those lessons, some

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of the things are happening here where countries,

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people in other countries, bad things happen to

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them.

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And we have a pattern going on here.

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And so we need to stop it.

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Continuously.

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And I realize this is it.

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This is what democracy looks like.

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Which is we learned that if you paid

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attention in school, yeah, I don't know what

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school you went to.

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But unfortunately, the scholastic system has let us

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down and taught people some retarded things about

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our republic, our constitutional representative republic.

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It is not a democracy.

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We just have to keep saying it now.

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Bernie Sanders came out doing it.

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No, President Trump, we don't want you king

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to rule us.

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But we will maintain our democratic form of

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society.

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No, we don't have a democratic form of

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society.

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This is the problem.

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Now I realize they've just been taught a

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complete different America.

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I don't know if that's fixable, but dude,

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like, get it together.

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It doesn't seem like the left is mad

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at the right.

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They just hate Trump.

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And I thought your newsletter was very on

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point.

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You know, the joke of it all is

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that it's literally kings and monarchs who are

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trying to destroy us with the North Sea

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Nexus.

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And then these people come up with no

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kings.

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It's, it's, it's, it's demented.

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It's demented.

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But the people themselves are okay.

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But you know, your point, I have to

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say, and it is something we keep forgetting,

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or I, at least I have, and I

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think maybe generally everyone has, which is that

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we are a constitutional republic.

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We're not a constitutional democracy.

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I've heard more than a couple of politicians

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call us a constitutional democracy.

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We're not.

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Or, or Tulsi Gabbard saying a democratic republic.

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No, no, we're not.

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Get it straight.

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That's wrong, too, that she says that.

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They're all saying it because it's been drummed

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into everyone.

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Yeah.

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That it is.

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And so then we're losing our democracy, which

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we don't have to begin with.

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We are a republic.

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And if they truly, nobody wants to.

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We've been talking about this, by the way,

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on this show for at least 15 years.

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Yeah.

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You're right, because it's so prevalent.

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This is what I saw.

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I didn't clip it.

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Cory Booker.

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This is what democracy looks like.

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But that's not.

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But the thing is, if this is what

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democracy look like, then, OK, you lost.

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Shut up.

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So you want a democracy where the mob

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rules, in this case, the Republicans rule, they

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would be the mob.

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And then if this is what democracy looks

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like, then shut up, go home and wait

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until you have the mob rule.

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So it doesn't even make sense because that's

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not what democracy looks like.

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But actually, as you think about it, if

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a bunch of people in the streets screaming

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their heads off, including the we have to

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hear the hey, ho, gotta go stuff.

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Oh, I have two new ones.

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Yeah, it's just like if that's what if

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this is what democracy looks like, it's a

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mess.

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Exactly.

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Who wants that?

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This is a this was a very odd

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one.

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Yeah, I saw this one.

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Get FEMA rhyme.

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Get FEMA out of DHS.

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And then what was this one?

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Hey, hey, Donald J.

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How many kids did you start today?

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Hey, hey, Donald J.

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How many kids did you start today?

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Hey, hey, I'm not even sure what he's

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saying.

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How many kids?

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Hey, hey, how many kids you just starve?

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Oh, starve today.

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Oh, OK, got it.

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So, yeah, but otherwise, I was actually quite

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happy, like, oh, by the way, when is

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Trump starving kids?

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Yeah, well, I don't know.

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It must be Gazans, I guess.

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Yeah, but but I like that.

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You know, these I like the flags like

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a lot of Americans with flags.

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OK, there's a lot with the West Coast

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coverage a little different than what you saw.

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Well, there's a lot of Mexican flags and

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a lot of hello, hello, hello.

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I'm talking about America.

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You no longer live in America.

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That's close enough.

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No, it's not close enough.

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No.

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All right.

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What do you have?

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What's this NPR stuff?

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What do you have?

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Well, this is the only the one summary

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report that I thought was was interesting because

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this is NPR's report on the I mean,

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every news channel, they overcovered it, especially out

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here.

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Yeah.

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And it was like, oh, look at this.

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Look at that.

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And there's just a bunch of people and

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a lot of mostly old people, you know,

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a lot of it's like the retirees all

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came out of the woodwork.

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Well, it always hurts to see the Vietnam

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vets, you know, in these there's a couple

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of those.

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There's a lot of old, old, old, old,

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unreconstructed hippie ladies that are, you know, I

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hate to say it, but they're my age

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and they just look dreadful.

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They just look just horrible, horrible looking.

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You could have gone out and you could

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have scored, man.

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That sounds like a paradise.

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I'd still be itching.

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So so this is this is to me

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classic because it's NPR.

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They want their funding back and they're and

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they're I don't know what they're trying to

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pull here.

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But this is I consider this one of

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the most slanted news coverage reports I've heard

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for a while.

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In rural Shenandoah County, Virginia, demonstrators packed a

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quarter mile of sidewalk for the No King's

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Rally against President Trump.

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Randy Behege with member station WMRA has more.

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The No King's gathering was part of a

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seven month streak of weekly protests against the

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Trump administration.

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Here's one of the organizers, Dr. Mark Pierce.

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The reason we are out here is to

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give a message that we are not his

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subjects.

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Local resident Joan Griffin has been consistently protesting

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here.

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The fact that they are grabbing people who

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are even American citizens off the street, the

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cutting off of funding to universities and the

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like for research.

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And then I'm very disturbed by what is

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the apparent destruction of the federal government.

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More than 70 percent of voters in the

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county cast their ballot for President Donald Trump

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last year.

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For NPR News, I'm Randy Behege in Woodstock,

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Virginia.

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And that's part of some 2500 marches around

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the country today.

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So they had seven million.

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I'm looking at MSNBC now.

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Seven million protesters.

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OK, so you got two percent of the

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country.

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That's that's what democracy looks like.

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You are in the minority.

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Go home.

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You lost.

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Isn't that what democracy looks like?

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Or OK, you're protesting.

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It's fine.

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I think a lot of people are just

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protesting just because, well, it's the American thing

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to do.

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We protest, which I'm totally OK with.

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I think there's a lot of socialization.

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Oh, street.

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I heard every report look more like a

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street party.

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Well, that's fine.

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That's good.

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No, I was I thought this was actually

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a very American type of thing.

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You know, Americans get very confused.

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All of us do at some point and

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go out and we're out there.

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We're letting our voice be heard.

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And in this case, all we have to

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say is we hate Trump.

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We hate his golden stuff.

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But they know little about government or how

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it works or what our Constitutional Republic is

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really supposed to do, which is just protect

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our rights as citizens and not much else.

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Dismantling of the government.

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I'm all for I think that that should

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be the stance.

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It's just it was interesting.

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I the way the Mike Johnson or the

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FAA is useless.

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Johnson's useless National Guard.

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No, no.

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These were actually peace loving Americans who just

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have no, you know, they have no they

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get no poll on TikTok.

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So, you know, let me go out with

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some other people and I'll feel like I

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don't know how they have to.

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People don't even know how to use TikTok.

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In fact, the thing that and if you

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think about it, think about the images you've

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seen of all the people out there, you

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didn't see you saw very few of them

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holding a phone.

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Oh, interesting.

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Well, how come you this is your people?

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You should have been out there were my

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people.

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They didn't have a phone.

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And it's like they were my age group,

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which is I mean, it was just a

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bunch of old farts, basically.

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And they didn't have phones.

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You didn't see anybody on their phones because

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they were there were all this was a

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retirement community.

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Let go.

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OK, everybody, let's hit the streets.

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Here's 10 bucks.

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Here's 10 bucks.

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Here's some signs.

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That's interesting.

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Yeah, well, there was some younger people, but

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it's just very few, but at least out

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here, most of the images, imagery I saw

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was very few young people and mostly middle

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60 and up.

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No phones, dumb.

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They didn't know anything about what was going

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on.

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That's kind of the egregious part is that

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they really just don't know much about our

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system, how it's supposed to work.

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It has been working.

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You don't actually want a democracy that that

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is the end of everything.

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Just look at Europe.

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These people.

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I love the people say, oh, I'm going

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to go live in Lisbon.

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It's great there.

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OK, all right.

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Don't don't hang out too long.

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Because it's all going to come crashing down.

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Lisbon.

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I'm going to Portugal.

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It's the best.

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No, not really.

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You'll see.

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So, yeah, I was pleased.

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I have to say, I was just pleased

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that it wasn't what it could have been

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and what the Republican scaremongers told us it

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would be.

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You know, we've always had we've always had

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dumb people in America.

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We've always looked at other Americans.

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I mean, that guy's crazy.

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You know, we've had a lot of weird

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things that we do that we get into,

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like.

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Jazzercise, we've had some odd ones.

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You're wondering, it's kind of like you're just

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kind of going off.

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Yeah, I am.

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I am jazzercise.

532
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I was wondering where this is headed.

533
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That's just nowhere straight into a.

534
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Wow.

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Straight into it.

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I did have one clip from Don Lemon,

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who now, if anyone's a problem, Don Lemon

538
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and you should arm ourselves.

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Yeah, that's the one.

540
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It's like a great clip.

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Now, by the way, I agreed with Don

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Lemon.

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Everybody should arm themselves.

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Most people agree with Don Lemon.

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Yeah.

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It's just that his attitude about it is

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wrong.

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Black people, brown people of all stripes, whether

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you're an Indian American or a Mexican American

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or whoever you are, go out in your

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place where you live and get a gun

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legally, get a license to carry legally, because

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when you have people knocking on your door

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and taking you away without due process as

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a citizen, isn't that what the Second Amendment

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was written for?

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Go back and read what the Second Amendment

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says, and perhaps it will knock some sense

559
00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:23,000
in the head, in the heads of these

560
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,720
people who are saying, well, it's all great.

561
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,400
I don't believe they're doing it without due

562
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:26,700
process.

563
00:19:27,060 --> 00:19:28,300
They're asking people for papers.

564
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,800
They're not really beating people up.

565
00:19:30,060 --> 00:19:31,920
These people are doing things that are illegal.

566
00:19:32,180 --> 00:19:33,120
Nobody is illegal.

567
00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:35,500
It is a misdemeanor to cross the border.

568
00:19:35,780 --> 00:19:36,200
It's misdemeanor.

569
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,380
I love somehow the audio on him got

570
00:19:38,380 --> 00:19:39,520
really fliffy.

571
00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:41,140
He sounds better that way.

572
00:19:41,220 --> 00:19:42,120
It's a misdemeanor.

573
00:19:43,260 --> 00:19:45,640
You know, the other thing is, besides the

574
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,760
fact that he thinks misdemeanor is not breaking

575
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,240
the law, which we had in another clip,

576
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,380
but he lives in, I think he lives

577
00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:55,720
in New York, if I'm not mistaken.

578
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,540
You can't get a gun in New York,

579
00:19:57,860 --> 00:20:00,540
no matter what you think.

580
00:20:01,220 --> 00:20:04,520
But so when I saw this, I did

581
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,320
question myself because I've seen some other posts

582
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,600
on the ex.

583
00:20:10,260 --> 00:20:12,500
And I wonder, you know, because I live

584
00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:16,560
in a predominantly white community in Texas, I

585
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,520
mean, am I missing something?

586
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,860
Am I missing American citizens who are brown

587
00:20:21,860 --> 00:20:25,000
and black being rousted and arrested and asked

588
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,340
for their papers continuously?

589
00:20:26,340 --> 00:20:29,840
I don't see a lot of video evidence

590
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:30,300
of it.

591
00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:31,820
And you'd think you would see it if

592
00:20:31,820 --> 00:20:32,680
that were happening.

593
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,340
Yes, that's a good point.

594
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,500
You know, where's the video evidence?

595
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,180
Yeah.

596
00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:39,220
I mean, we've had enough of the kid

597
00:20:39,220 --> 00:20:40,220
being zip tied.

598
00:20:40,380 --> 00:20:41,640
We know what that was now.

599
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,420
And, you know, dragged out naked.

600
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,380
And but like I said on the last

601
00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:49,500
show where, you know, the white liberals of

602
00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:51,200
Austin are like, we need to do ice

603
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,080
training for when they come to take our

604
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:53,740
brown people.

605
00:20:54,340 --> 00:20:55,980
There's just no evidence of it.

606
00:20:58,550 --> 00:20:59,790
You know, no.

607
00:21:00,830 --> 00:21:02,770
So I'd like to see that.

608
00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:07,230
And I understand the empathy they have.

609
00:21:07,810 --> 00:21:10,910
But, you know, this is what democracy looks

610
00:21:10,910 --> 00:21:11,330
like.

611
00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:14,530
The president was democratically elected.

612
00:21:15,170 --> 00:21:17,110
Then he said he would do this.

613
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:18,630
And I think he's doing what he said

614
00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:19,070
he would.

615
00:21:19,530 --> 00:21:22,630
And going way beyond with these these these

616
00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:25,030
boats, man, this is this is a North

617
00:21:25,030 --> 00:21:26,370
Sea Nexus attack.

618
00:21:27,130 --> 00:21:28,390
This is fantastic.

619
00:21:28,550 --> 00:21:29,870
What the boats?

620
00:21:30,110 --> 00:21:30,450
Yeah.

621
00:21:30,830 --> 00:21:31,410
Oh, yeah.

622
00:21:32,090 --> 00:21:33,950
President explain that one.

623
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:37,090
OK, as you said, and I agree with

624
00:21:37,090 --> 00:21:40,010
you that these drug boats, this is all

625
00:21:40,010 --> 00:21:41,030
drugs for Europe.

626
00:21:41,470 --> 00:21:44,950
And I'm in complete agreement, knowing that in

627
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:48,670
particular, once something comes into the port of

628
00:21:48,670 --> 00:21:51,090
Rotterdam, where most of the drugs come in,

629
00:21:51,530 --> 00:21:54,750
you know, through whatever pipelines coming from Colombia,

630
00:21:54,930 --> 00:21:55,950
coming from Venezuela.

631
00:21:56,170 --> 00:21:57,590
Look, that's where the coke comes from.

632
00:21:59,310 --> 00:22:00,690
That is their money.

633
00:22:01,350 --> 00:22:02,850
That's the big, big money.

634
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:04,450
It's the banks are involved.

635
00:22:05,010 --> 00:22:06,590
The politicians are involved.

636
00:22:07,230 --> 00:22:08,670
Drugs is the business.

637
00:22:08,830 --> 00:22:10,890
It's certainly the business of the Netherlands.

638
00:22:11,570 --> 00:22:12,790
It's one of two things.

639
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:16,570
Either storing money for, well, three things, storing

640
00:22:16,570 --> 00:22:18,690
money for big tech, which is tax free

641
00:22:18,690 --> 00:22:22,290
because there's no tax on intellectual property, which

642
00:22:22,290 --> 00:22:23,950
is which is why the Rolling Stones have

643
00:22:23,950 --> 00:22:25,290
all their main offices there.

644
00:22:25,930 --> 00:22:30,070
Or you're running mailbox accounts for Russian oligarchs

645
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:32,090
or you're in the drug trade.

646
00:22:32,250 --> 00:22:35,970
I mean, it's it is a drug transport

647
00:22:35,970 --> 00:22:36,730
haven.

648
00:22:37,150 --> 00:22:38,730
It is a narco state.

649
00:22:39,170 --> 00:22:41,670
And it's been that way for decades.

650
00:22:42,530 --> 00:22:45,370
So, yeah, when you start to start to

651
00:22:45,370 --> 00:22:47,810
take out boats.

652
00:22:48,030 --> 00:22:49,170
Well, yeah.

653
00:22:50,090 --> 00:22:53,690
And now, you know, you don't think Trump

654
00:22:53,690 --> 00:22:55,810
is taking the boats out on the behest

655
00:22:55,810 --> 00:22:58,030
of the of the kings?

656
00:22:58,770 --> 00:22:59,650
No, no.

657
00:22:59,770 --> 00:23:02,430
They're the ones taking the money messing with

658
00:23:02,430 --> 00:23:02,710
them.

659
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:03,130
Yes.

660
00:23:03,550 --> 00:23:05,390
Oh, 100 percent.

661
00:23:06,570 --> 00:23:07,090
Absolutely.

662
00:23:07,890 --> 00:23:09,830
That's why white supremacy, by the way.

663
00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:11,270
What do you mean?

664
00:23:11,330 --> 00:23:13,990
That's white supremacy to say 100 percent.

665
00:23:14,290 --> 00:23:15,670
Oh, that's white supremacy.

666
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:16,390
Yeah.

667
00:23:16,550 --> 00:23:18,650
Somebody said, have you been talking to the

668
00:23:18,650 --> 00:23:19,150
kids again?

669
00:23:19,810 --> 00:23:21,730
So it's white supremacy.

670
00:23:21,910 --> 00:23:23,270
No, they didn't come up with somebody.

671
00:23:23,550 --> 00:23:25,750
I wanted the MSNBC or somebody.

672
00:23:26,090 --> 00:23:27,630
Oh, that's great.

673
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:30,130
So so let me see.

674
00:23:30,250 --> 00:23:31,890
So I didn't even know this was going

675
00:23:31,890 --> 00:23:32,170
on.

676
00:23:32,650 --> 00:23:34,750
We have Operation Pacific Viper.

677
00:23:34,910 --> 00:23:36,270
This is not even in the Mediterranean.

678
00:23:36,370 --> 00:23:39,190
This is Operation Pacific Viper.

679
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:41,350
As Coast Guard has announced it has seized

680
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:44,010
more than 100,000 pounds of cocaine.

681
00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:47,390
The seizures are part of Operation Pacific Viper.

682
00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:49,850
It started in August in the eastern Pacific

683
00:23:49,850 --> 00:23:52,890
Ocean, targeting drugs from Central and South America.

684
00:23:53,530 --> 00:23:56,630
Officials say they are seizing 1600 pounds of

685
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:57,450
drugs daily.

686
00:23:58,050 --> 00:24:00,310
Eighty six people have been arrested, suspected of

687
00:24:00,310 --> 00:24:01,250
narco trafficking.

688
00:24:01,830 --> 00:24:03,510
The Coast Guard says it is focusing on

689
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:05,910
drug smuggling routes in the eastern Pacific Ocean

690
00:24:05,910 --> 00:24:10,370
and dismantling narco narco terrorist networks, which includes

691
00:24:10,370 --> 00:24:10,890
Colombia.

692
00:24:11,030 --> 00:24:13,930
The United States has struck yet another ship

693
00:24:13,930 --> 00:24:16,530
in the Caribbean in a bragging post on

694
00:24:16,530 --> 00:24:17,270
social media.

695
00:24:17,490 --> 00:24:20,590
President Donald Trump posted this video claiming the

696
00:24:20,590 --> 00:24:23,470
vessel was a drug carrying submarine.

697
00:24:23,950 --> 00:24:26,730
U.S. intelligence confirmed this vessel was loaded

698
00:24:26,730 --> 00:24:30,090
up with mostly fentanyl and other illegal narcotics.

699
00:24:30,410 --> 00:24:32,890
There were four known narco terrorists on board

700
00:24:32,890 --> 00:24:33,390
the vessel.

701
00:24:33,730 --> 00:24:35,070
Two of the terrorists were killed.

702
00:24:35,470 --> 00:24:37,450
One of the survivors was a 34 year

703
00:24:37,450 --> 00:24:40,570
old Colombian who authorities say has been repatriated

704
00:24:40,570 --> 00:24:43,290
and will be prosecuted for alleged drug smuggling.

705
00:24:43,290 --> 00:24:47,130
Washington claims its unprecedented military campaign in the

706
00:24:47,130 --> 00:24:50,270
Caribbean has so far killed at least 27

707
00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:51,330
drug smugglers.

708
00:24:51,630 --> 00:24:53,950
In Colombia, there is a different story.

709
00:24:54,410 --> 00:24:56,470
Local media reported that one of the victims

710
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:59,310
from a recent attack was a fisherman whose

711
00:24:59,310 --> 00:25:01,470
engine was switched off and had issued a

712
00:25:01,470 --> 00:25:02,310
distress signal.

713
00:25:02,770 --> 00:25:05,730
An enraged President Gustavo Petro shared the reports

714
00:25:05,730 --> 00:25:07,230
on his own social media.

715
00:25:07,230 --> 00:25:10,350
U.S. government officials have committed murder and

716
00:25:10,350 --> 00:25:13,390
violated our sovereignty in our territorial waters.

717
00:25:13,910 --> 00:25:16,570
Fisherman Alejandro Carranza had no ties to drug

718
00:25:16,570 --> 00:25:19,330
traffickers and his daily activity was fishing.

719
00:25:19,630 --> 00:25:21,350
The U.S. has been building its military

720
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:24,250
presence in the Caribbean and since September has

721
00:25:24,250 --> 00:25:27,710
targeted at least six vessels, some from Venezuela.

722
00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:30,610
Human rights experts have described the strikes as

723
00:25:30,610 --> 00:25:32,430
extrajudicial killings.

724
00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:34,510
Yeah, of course, that's the main narrative.

725
00:25:34,510 --> 00:25:37,350
Like everybody's like, oh, this is illegal killing,

726
00:25:37,470 --> 00:25:38,310
illegal killing.

727
00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:39,770
Like what killing should be legal?

728
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:40,750
Oh, it's illegal killing.

729
00:25:41,630 --> 00:25:44,550
And I guess because of the past couple

730
00:25:44,550 --> 00:25:47,510
of days, CBS brought it all back in

731
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:49,530
a report about CIA in Venezuela.

732
00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:52,750
In a dramatic new show of force, three

733
00:25:52,750 --> 00:25:55,970
B-52 long range bombers flew for hours

734
00:25:55,970 --> 00:25:57,630
yesterday off the coast of Venezuela.

735
00:25:58,350 --> 00:26:00,310
Late today, the commander in charge of the

736
00:26:00,310 --> 00:26:04,050
mission, Admiral Alvin Hoseley, abruptly stepped down, a

737
00:26:04,050 --> 00:26:06,390
surprise move less than a year into the

738
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:06,810
job.

739
00:26:07,250 --> 00:26:10,010
That's after President Trump told reporters he authorized

740
00:26:10,010 --> 00:26:13,670
CIA operations in the country, prompting concern from

741
00:26:13,670 --> 00:26:15,290
Democrats on Capitol Hill.

742
00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:17,870
Starting wars that may spiral out of control

743
00:26:17,870 --> 00:26:19,610
ought to be deeply alarming the American public.

744
00:26:19,790 --> 00:26:21,950
There are now 10,000 troops in the

745
00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:24,910
Caribbean, including eight warships and a submarine.

746
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:28,890
And new images show military helicopters, which could

747
00:26:28,890 --> 00:26:33,230
carry special operations soldiers 90 miles off Venezuela's

748
00:26:33,230 --> 00:26:33,630
coast.

749
00:26:33,810 --> 00:26:35,710
We are certainly looking at land now because

750
00:26:35,710 --> 00:26:37,610
we've got the sea very well under control.

751
00:26:37,950 --> 00:26:40,230
The U.S. military took out another alleged

752
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:42,850
drug carrying boat this week, the fifth strike

753
00:26:42,850 --> 00:26:43,950
in six weeks.

754
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:48,250
Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has fired back against

755
00:26:48,250 --> 00:26:51,270
the escalation, saying there will be no regime

756
00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:54,210
change or CIA orchestrated coup.

757
00:26:54,210 --> 00:26:57,770
President Trump has not explicitly called for regime

758
00:26:57,770 --> 00:27:00,290
change, but the administration has made clear it

759
00:27:00,290 --> 00:27:02,670
does not want Maduro to remain in power.

760
00:27:02,970 --> 00:27:06,190
There's a $50 million reward for information leading

761
00:27:06,190 --> 00:27:08,850
to his arrest for alleged drug trafficking.

762
00:27:09,150 --> 00:27:12,230
Former U.S. Ambassador to Panama John Feeley

763
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:14,950
said Maduro has long been a problem for

764
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:18,090
the U.S. He is the nominal head

765
00:27:18,090 --> 00:27:21,650
of a government that has been wholly captured

766
00:27:21,650 --> 00:27:24,290
by organized crime in Venezuela.

767
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:26,950
And I think the problem is not even

768
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:29,450
so much, well, the drugs are the problem,

769
00:27:29,630 --> 00:27:29,970
of course.

770
00:27:30,270 --> 00:27:31,910
But we have to go back to the

771
00:27:31,910 --> 00:27:32,890
Panama Papers.

772
00:27:33,670 --> 00:27:35,950
That's how all the drug money was being

773
00:27:35,950 --> 00:27:36,370
hidden.

774
00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:39,130
And it's from, remember how many people had

775
00:27:39,130 --> 00:27:41,310
money involved in the Panama Papers?

776
00:27:41,690 --> 00:27:42,070
Everybody.

777
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:42,770
Yeah.

778
00:27:42,910 --> 00:27:45,290
And people don't even know it.

779
00:27:45,290 --> 00:27:46,270
I got a lot of money.

780
00:27:46,350 --> 00:27:47,410
I give it to those guys.

781
00:27:47,490 --> 00:27:48,990
Those guys did something with it.

782
00:27:49,470 --> 00:27:50,930
You know, it's all stored offshore.

783
00:27:51,390 --> 00:27:54,190
And this is the cartel.

784
00:27:54,270 --> 00:27:56,050
And I think President Trump is bringing it

785
00:27:56,050 --> 00:27:56,330
down.

786
00:27:56,550 --> 00:27:59,850
Interestingly, or at least this is a start,

787
00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:01,010
it's pretty big.

788
00:28:01,650 --> 00:28:03,630
Interestingly, it's pretty big when you're bringing in

789
00:28:03,630 --> 00:28:07,830
150,000 pounds of coke at a time.

790
00:28:07,910 --> 00:28:10,110
It's 15,000 pounds a day.

791
00:28:10,390 --> 00:28:13,050
How much cocaine is the American public consuming?

792
00:28:13,630 --> 00:28:16,530
Well, you can sense a lot of it

793
00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:18,410
by some of the people that you see,

794
00:28:18,810 --> 00:28:19,690
even on podcasts.

795
00:28:21,230 --> 00:28:22,490
I never noticed it.

796
00:28:22,570 --> 00:28:23,190
That's your job.

797
00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:23,910
That's your beat.

798
00:28:24,150 --> 00:28:25,190
You notice the cocaine.

799
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:26,650
Yeah, I'm always surprised that you never picked

800
00:28:26,650 --> 00:28:27,270
up on that.

801
00:28:28,430 --> 00:28:31,350
You know, sometimes you could tell, just listen

802
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:33,350
to the guy talking, that maybe he's been,

803
00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:35,810
something's wrong with his, he's got an adenoidal

804
00:28:35,810 --> 00:28:36,250
solid.

805
00:28:36,270 --> 00:28:36,450
Who?

806
00:28:36,570 --> 00:28:36,930
Who?

807
00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:37,870
Give me names.

808
00:28:38,670 --> 00:28:40,790
We've got, they're all over the place.

809
00:28:40,790 --> 00:28:43,870
It's like the number of people that you

810
00:28:43,870 --> 00:28:49,490
hear that have the coke voice is, I'd

811
00:28:49,490 --> 00:28:50,790
be saying it too often.

812
00:28:50,910 --> 00:28:52,130
Oh, you know, that guy sounds like, you

813
00:28:52,130 --> 00:28:54,270
can't keep accusing everybody being coked up.

814
00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:56,790
But sometimes with these numbers I'm hearing, maybe

815
00:28:56,790 --> 00:28:57,530
they are.

816
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:59,090
No, it's Europe.

817
00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:01,510
Europe, everybody's doing coke in Europe.

818
00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:03,330
I think you're wrong.

819
00:29:03,530 --> 00:29:07,710
I think a good portion of the politicians

820
00:29:07,710 --> 00:29:08,710
are coked up.

821
00:29:09,050 --> 00:29:09,730
Oh, that's possible.

822
00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:10,290
In this country.

823
00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:13,910
No, I'm, well, they're just getting part of

824
00:29:13,910 --> 00:29:14,470
the supply.

825
00:29:14,670 --> 00:29:15,790
They're in the supply chain.

826
00:29:16,670 --> 00:29:18,550
And by the way, as a former drug

827
00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:20,430
user, I can just say cocaine is not

828
00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:21,510
an excellent drug.

829
00:29:21,950 --> 00:29:22,870
It sucks.

830
00:29:24,150 --> 00:29:25,870
You know, weed, yeah, all right.

831
00:29:26,010 --> 00:29:28,390
You know, I can go with that.

832
00:29:29,170 --> 00:29:32,190
But cocaine, no, it's just a crappy drug.

833
00:29:33,090 --> 00:29:38,430
Anyway, so Majuro, apparently, according to this journalist,

834
00:29:38,750 --> 00:29:39,770
he said, what do you want?

835
00:29:39,770 --> 00:29:40,750
I'll do anything you want.

836
00:29:40,830 --> 00:29:41,490
Just stop it.

837
00:29:41,570 --> 00:29:42,190
Make it stop.

838
00:29:42,250 --> 00:29:43,050
Make it go away.

839
00:29:43,150 --> 00:29:44,590
I didn't even know he had said that.

840
00:29:44,670 --> 00:29:46,950
But this is what this journalist said, said

841
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:48,370
the president in a question.

842
00:29:49,210 --> 00:29:53,250
It has been reported that Maduro offered everything

843
00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:56,050
in his country, all the natural resources.

844
00:29:56,150 --> 00:29:57,770
He even recorded a message to you in

845
00:29:57,770 --> 00:30:00,130
English recently offering mediation.

846
00:30:00,450 --> 00:30:02,450
What should we do to stop that?

847
00:30:02,530 --> 00:30:03,810
He has offered everything.

848
00:30:04,410 --> 00:30:05,450
He's offered everything.

849
00:30:05,570 --> 00:30:05,990
You're right.

850
00:30:06,270 --> 00:30:06,850
You know why?

851
00:30:07,410 --> 00:30:09,610
Because he doesn't want to fuck around with

852
00:30:09,610 --> 00:30:10,530
the United States.

853
00:30:10,550 --> 00:30:11,610
Thank you, everybody.

854
00:30:13,050 --> 00:30:13,570
Wow.

855
00:30:16,090 --> 00:30:19,110
Yeah, that's that's big boy talk right there.

856
00:30:20,090 --> 00:30:23,310
And then this this surprise, by the way,

857
00:30:23,330 --> 00:30:25,130
I've heard that clip a dozen times, but

858
00:30:25,130 --> 00:30:26,930
they've always bleeped out what he said.

859
00:30:27,050 --> 00:30:28,690
Oh, well, that's no good.

860
00:30:29,630 --> 00:30:32,770
And this, you know, this this head of

861
00:30:32,770 --> 00:30:36,270
U.S. military for Latin American command or

862
00:30:36,270 --> 00:30:38,450
whatever it is in a surprise move, he

863
00:30:38,450 --> 00:30:39,250
has resigned.

864
00:30:39,370 --> 00:30:41,730
Well, that's not entirely true.

865
00:30:42,370 --> 00:30:44,710
It's the latest shakeup in the senior ranks

866
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:46,530
of the U.S. military under the Trump

867
00:30:46,530 --> 00:30:47,190
administration.

868
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:50,110
The admiral who oversees operations in the South

869
00:30:50,110 --> 00:30:52,290
Caribbean and Latin America will step down in

870
00:30:52,290 --> 00:30:54,370
December, two years earlier than expected.

871
00:30:55,090 --> 00:30:55,610
December.

872
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:57,250
It's not like he quit right away.

873
00:30:57,250 --> 00:30:59,450
Like, you can't be killing people.

874
00:30:59,610 --> 00:31:00,170
I quit.

875
00:31:00,310 --> 00:31:01,410
I'm a military man.

876
00:31:01,490 --> 00:31:02,470
We don't kill people.

877
00:31:02,610 --> 00:31:03,330
I quit.

878
00:31:03,930 --> 00:31:05,330
A military man.

879
00:31:05,410 --> 00:31:06,550
We don't kill people.

880
00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:07,770
That's a good line.

881
00:31:08,010 --> 00:31:09,350
He's retiring early.

882
00:31:09,810 --> 00:31:11,450
On behalf of the Department of War, we

883
00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:13,830
extend our deepest gratitude to Admiral Alvin Halsey

884
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:16,270
for his more than 37 years of distinguished

885
00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:18,410
service to our nation as he plans to

886
00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:19,390
retire at year's end.

887
00:31:19,850 --> 00:31:21,750
The New York Times reports a U.S.

888
00:31:21,870 --> 00:31:24,570
official said Halsey raised concerns over attacks on

889
00:31:24,570 --> 00:31:26,970
alleged drug boats and a source told Reuters

890
00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:29,570
that there was tension between him and Secretary

891
00:31:29,570 --> 00:31:31,470
Hegseth in the days leading up to the

892
00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:31,750
moment.

893
00:31:32,570 --> 00:31:35,070
On October 10th, Florida-based U.S. Southern

894
00:31:35,070 --> 00:31:37,370
Command announced it would create a new joint

895
00:31:37,370 --> 00:31:39,950
task force based in North Carolina to coordinate

896
00:31:39,950 --> 00:31:43,230
future counter-narcotics operations in the Western Hemisphere.

897
00:31:43,630 --> 00:31:45,430
The shakeup takes place in the backdrop of

898
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:47,790
U.S. military buildup and an escalation of

899
00:31:47,790 --> 00:31:48,750
tensions with Venezuela.

900
00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:50,690
Yeah, he's just connecting things.

901
00:31:50,890 --> 00:31:53,070
I don't, I honestly don't think it's connected.

902
00:31:53,070 --> 00:31:54,470
I think the guy's just tired.

903
00:31:55,150 --> 00:31:56,250
He's like, eh, you know what, I'm getting

904
00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:56,730
out early.

905
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:57,790
Oh no!

906
00:31:58,450 --> 00:31:59,170
This is no good.

907
00:32:00,430 --> 00:32:03,070
And France, man, France is in the crosshairs.

908
00:32:03,270 --> 00:32:05,010
This got almost no press.

909
00:32:05,070 --> 00:32:06,150
At least I didn't hear about it until

910
00:32:06,150 --> 00:32:07,750
I came across this one clip.

911
00:32:08,210 --> 00:32:11,230
France's biggest bank, BNP Paribas, forced to pay

912
00:32:11,230 --> 00:32:13,590
millions of dollars because of its operations in

913
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:13,830
Sudan.

914
00:32:14,190 --> 00:32:16,230
It's been found complicit in atrocities that took

915
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:18,130
place in the country in the early 2000s.

916
00:32:18,350 --> 00:32:20,190
On Friday, a U.S. jury cited with

917
00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:20,630
- Say what?

918
00:32:21,170 --> 00:32:23,670
That was BNP Bank National Paris?

919
00:32:23,950 --> 00:32:24,050
Yes.

920
00:32:24,350 --> 00:32:25,490
That's a big bank.

921
00:32:25,510 --> 00:32:26,050
It's the biggest.

922
00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:26,890
It's the biggest one.

923
00:32:26,970 --> 00:32:28,830
Well, listen to the accusation that they were

924
00:32:28,830 --> 00:32:30,570
found guilty of.

925
00:32:30,690 --> 00:32:32,750
It's been found complicit in atrocities that took

926
00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:34,650
place in the country in the early 2000s.

927
00:32:34,770 --> 00:32:36,710
On Friday, a U.S. jury cited with

928
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:39,070
three plaintiffs after hearing testimonies of their suffering

929
00:32:39,070 --> 00:32:41,230
at the hands of Sudanese soldiers and militias.

930
00:32:41,470 --> 00:32:43,490
Our clients lost everything to a campaign of

931
00:32:43,490 --> 00:32:46,070
destruction fueled by U.S. dollars that BNP

932
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:48,390
Paribas facilitated and that should have been stopped.

933
00:32:48,390 --> 00:32:51,390
The plaintiffs, two men and one woman, originally

934
00:32:51,390 --> 00:32:54,050
from Sudan but now American citizens, said that

935
00:32:54,050 --> 00:32:56,390
they had been tortured, burned with cigarettes, and

936
00:32:56,390 --> 00:32:58,310
in the case of the woman, sexually assaulted

937
00:32:58,310 --> 00:33:01,190
by Sudanese forces while former President Omar al

938
00:33:01,190 --> 00:33:02,090
-Bashir was in power.

939
00:33:02,350 --> 00:33:04,850
The plaintiffs argued the bank backed al-Bashir's

940
00:33:04,850 --> 00:33:06,930
regime by giving it access to markets to

941
00:33:06,930 --> 00:33:09,750
export resources, enabling it to buy weapons for

942
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:11,050
use against its population.

943
00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:13,810
The war in Sudan killed 300,000 people

944
00:33:13,810 --> 00:33:17,670
and displaced millions between 2002 and 2008, according

945
00:33:17,670 --> 00:33:19,950
to the U.N. Attorneys for BNP Paribas

946
00:33:19,950 --> 00:33:21,470
said it had no knowledge of the human

947
00:33:21,470 --> 00:33:23,610
rights violations and that the plaintiffs would have

948
00:33:23,610 --> 00:33:26,370
been abused or tortured despite the bank's operations

949
00:33:26,370 --> 00:33:27,090
in the country.

950
00:33:27,410 --> 00:33:29,490
Sudan would and did commit human rights crimes

951
00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:31,670
without oil or BNP Paribas.

952
00:33:31,890 --> 00:33:34,330
The plaintiffs will be awarded over $20 million.

953
00:33:34,990 --> 00:33:37,130
Their lawyers say their case may open the

954
00:33:37,130 --> 00:33:39,750
door for 20,000 other Sudanese refugees in

955
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:41,290
the U.S. to seek billions of dollars

956
00:33:41,290 --> 00:33:43,170
in compensation from the French bank.

957
00:33:43,170 --> 00:33:45,730
Not that we care much about Sudanese in

958
00:33:45,730 --> 00:33:46,210
America.

959
00:33:46,510 --> 00:33:48,270
I mean, I didn't see any protests about

960
00:33:48,270 --> 00:33:50,470
the 300,000 dead people.

961
00:33:51,070 --> 00:33:51,470
Nah.

962
00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:52,370
Who cares?

963
00:33:52,550 --> 00:33:53,110
No Jews.

964
00:33:53,250 --> 00:33:54,310
No Jews to blame it on.

965
00:33:55,030 --> 00:33:56,950
Here's, uh, you know, since...

966
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:57,230
That's right.

967
00:33:57,350 --> 00:34:00,710
Bank National Paribas, I think, is what it's...

968
00:34:00,710 --> 00:34:00,890
Yes.

969
00:34:00,970 --> 00:34:01,510
The last...

970
00:34:01,510 --> 00:34:02,750
The P stands for, yeah.

971
00:34:02,990 --> 00:34:04,470
It's, uh, it's the biggest one.

972
00:34:04,570 --> 00:34:05,550
And so they were...

973
00:34:05,550 --> 00:34:06,050
You know...

974
00:34:06,050 --> 00:34:06,870
Funding that guy.

975
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:10,310
I don't say, you know, they're doing banker

976
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:10,790
stuff.

977
00:34:10,889 --> 00:34:12,110
They're giving money to people.

978
00:34:12,370 --> 00:34:12,470
Exactly.

979
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:14,090
All wars are banker wars.

980
00:34:14,270 --> 00:34:14,429
I'm...

981
00:34:14,429 --> 00:34:16,110
No disagreement from me there.

982
00:34:17,230 --> 00:34:17,790
And now...

983
00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:20,070
Now we've got our boys.

984
00:34:20,270 --> 00:34:21,650
Hey, France is weak.

985
00:34:21,830 --> 00:34:22,270
I know.

986
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:24,409
Let's put in the call to the boys.

987
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:26,690
Down again to just one A.

988
00:34:27,250 --> 00:34:30,510
Credits Ratings Agency Standard & Poor's has notched

989
00:34:30,510 --> 00:34:33,170
France down to A+, one month after

990
00:34:33,170 --> 00:34:34,110
Fitch did the same.

991
00:34:34,810 --> 00:34:35,290
It means...

992
00:34:35,290 --> 00:34:36,210
Yeah, from...

993
00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:37,710
From double A...

994
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:40,190
From triple A to double A to A+.

995
00:34:40,770 --> 00:34:42,330
That's way down.

996
00:34:42,330 --> 00:34:43,090
That's horrible.

997
00:34:43,370 --> 00:34:43,690
Yes.

998
00:34:43,889 --> 00:34:45,590
They think the country will be slower to

999
00:34:45,590 --> 00:34:48,389
repair its finances and repay its debts than

1000
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:49,530
previously expected.

1001
00:34:50,090 --> 00:34:53,270
We expect policy uncertainty will affect the French

1002
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:57,270
economy by dragging on investment activity and private

1003
00:34:57,270 --> 00:35:00,330
consumption and therefore on economic growth.

1004
00:35:01,690 --> 00:35:04,390
It's a slap in the face before France's

1005
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:07,210
fractured parliament begins debating a new budget on

1006
00:35:07,210 --> 00:35:07,530
Monday.

1007
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:10,810
The downgrade is an unusual move outside of

1008
00:35:10,810 --> 00:35:13,650
regular scheduled updates and came at the end

1009
00:35:13,650 --> 00:35:15,570
of a turbulent week in which Prime Minister

1010
00:35:15,570 --> 00:35:20,390
Sébastien Lecornu survived two no-confidence votes and

1011
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:23,510
pledged to suspend a highly controversial pension reform.

1012
00:35:24,830 --> 00:35:27,750
Reacting to the rating, Finance Minister Roland Lescure

1013
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:30,390
said it stressed the importance of approving a

1014
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:31,730
budget by the end of the year.

1015
00:35:32,370 --> 00:35:35,850
The agency highlighted France's very good fundamentals.

1016
00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:39,750
We have a diversified economy, resilient growth and

1017
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:41,410
a high level of savings, which is really

1018
00:35:41,410 --> 00:35:41,830
important.

1019
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:46,130
As hard as passing a budget will be,

1020
00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:47,030
it's only the beginning.

1021
00:35:47,570 --> 00:35:50,170
SNP projects that France's debt will rise to

1022
00:35:50,170 --> 00:35:54,330
121% of GDP by 2028, 9%

1023
00:35:54,330 --> 00:35:55,310
more than last year.

1024
00:35:55,950 --> 00:35:58,590
Next Friday, fellow credit rater Moody's will reveal

1025
00:35:58,590 --> 00:36:01,050
whether they too are downgrading France.

1026
00:36:01,130 --> 00:36:01,890
Of course they will.

1027
00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:04,470
Of course they will because the other guys

1028
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:04,770
did.

1029
00:36:04,850 --> 00:36:05,330
Yeah, of course.

1030
00:36:05,350 --> 00:36:07,110
The first one, that's why they did it

1031
00:36:07,110 --> 00:36:07,750
out of order.

1032
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:09,750
They said it was not normal to do

1033
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:12,250
it outside of their quarterly changes.

1034
00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:14,170
So they just jumped on board.

1035
00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:15,090
No, we're not going to.

1036
00:36:15,170 --> 00:36:15,830
No, we did it.

1037
00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:16,750
We did it already.

1038
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:19,490
It's for the reputation of the standard and

1039
00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:19,710
poor.

1040
00:36:19,850 --> 00:36:21,270
It's the only reason they did it out

1041
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:21,730
of the blue.

1042
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:22,350
Of course.

1043
00:36:23,110 --> 00:36:23,630
Of course.

1044
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:25,330
So Moody's will do it.

1045
00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:27,150
And so then the next thing it'll be

1046
00:36:27,150 --> 00:36:28,030
down to an A.

1047
00:36:28,450 --> 00:36:30,970
Yeah, and of course, I mean, we have

1048
00:36:30,970 --> 00:36:33,570
125% debt to GDP, I think.

1049
00:36:33,710 --> 00:36:35,130
But we have our own money.

1050
00:36:35,410 --> 00:36:36,930
No, we don't have 125%.

1051
00:36:36,930 --> 00:36:37,410
What is it?

1052
00:36:37,410 --> 00:36:38,450
No, it's way below that.

1053
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:40,190
It's over 100, but it's not 125.

1054
00:36:40,190 --> 00:36:41,610
Oh, I thought I was the...

1055
00:36:41,610 --> 00:36:42,010
People always told me it's 125.

1056
00:36:42,010 --> 00:36:42,810
No, no.

1057
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:43,710
No?

1058
00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:44,950
Ask the robot.

1059
00:36:45,410 --> 00:36:46,710
All right, let me ask the robot.

1060
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:47,570
Hold on a second.

1061
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:48,330
Hello, robot.

1062
00:36:48,490 --> 00:36:49,010
Where are you?

1063
00:36:49,090 --> 00:36:49,790
Where's my robot?

1064
00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:52,570
What is the current U.S. debt to

1065
00:36:52,570 --> 00:36:54,390
GDP ratio?

1066
00:36:56,670 --> 00:36:59,670
A GDP ratio usually means a figure...

1067
00:36:59,670 --> 00:37:00,670
I don't need it.

1068
00:37:00,690 --> 00:37:02,710
I don't need a lesson in GDP.

1069
00:37:03,650 --> 00:37:04,530
I'll try it again.

1070
00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:08,410
What is the current United States GDP to

1071
00:37:08,410 --> 00:37:09,290
debt ratio?

1072
00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:16,940
The current United States debt to GDP ratio

1073
00:37:16,940 --> 00:37:21,140
is about 119%, meaning total debt's a bit

1074
00:37:21,140 --> 00:37:22,340
over 36 trillion.

1075
00:37:23,060 --> 00:37:25,560
Okay, well, so she says 119.

1076
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:27,720
All right, so it wasn't way below.

1077
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,080
No, well, I thought it was less than

1078
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:32,780
119.

1079
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:33,920
Way below.

1080
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,280
So it wasn't way below.

1081
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:37,220
It's just below.

1082
00:37:37,220 --> 00:37:39,920
Yeah, but they don't control their own money.

1083
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:40,980
They don't get to print it.

1084
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:42,160
They don't control it.

1085
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:43,060
Yes, that's a big difference.

1086
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,960
They may have a French lady running the

1087
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,740
show, but I don't think she has any

1088
00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:48,380
affinity towards France per se.

1089
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,760
She's an international banker.

1090
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,440
So, yeah, you know, meh.

1091
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,480
I think...

1092
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,040
Yeah, they're screwed.

1093
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Yeah, I think the war is on.

1094
00:37:58,940 --> 00:38:00,300
This is Greece all over again.

1095
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,140
Well, Greece was a little worse, and it

1096
00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:06,860
was their own people, their own European brethren

1097
00:38:06,860 --> 00:38:09,660
doing it to them, you know?

1098
00:38:11,180 --> 00:38:13,860
Which, of course, should bring us to what's

1099
00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:15,840
happening in Ukraine, because that is the next

1100
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,320
step.

1101
00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:19,180
I have a couple of clips on this.

1102
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,500
I have some analysis.

1103
00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:22,200
Yes, I have some analysis too.

1104
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,940
We'll go with your analysis first.

1105
00:38:27,420 --> 00:38:27,720
Yes.

1106
00:38:29,620 --> 00:38:31,260
Go with my analysis first.

1107
00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:31,680
Yes.

1108
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:33,800
Yeah, clip one.

1109
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,440
Oh, well, I thought you have no leading.

1110
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,460
You're just like, you're not going to tell

1111
00:38:36,460 --> 00:38:37,400
me where the clip is from.

1112
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,320
No, because these clips are from the Ukraine

1113
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,500
analysis.

1114
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:43,100
Yeah, but who, where are they from?

1115
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:43,640
What is it?

1116
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,220
What is it about?

1117
00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:46,800
These are from NPR.

1118
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,060
It may even be Scott Simon's boys.

1119
00:38:49,340 --> 00:38:50,860
Oh, jeez.

1120
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,540
If it's Scott Simon, I'll be mad.

1121
00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:53,620
There we go.

1122
00:38:53,740 --> 00:38:55,880
President Trump says he wants Russia and Ukraine

1123
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,920
to stop fighting in their current position.

1124
00:38:57,980 --> 00:38:58,720
I warned you.

1125
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,100
This is an outrage.

1126
00:39:02,060 --> 00:39:03,800
Because you didn't get to play the Scott

1127
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,760
Simon jingle.

1128
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Exactly.

1129
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:07,240
Suffer and succotash.

1130
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,500
I'm Scott Simon.

1131
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:15,410
President Trump says he wants Russia and Ukraine

1132
00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:18,250
to stop fighting in their current positions and

1133
00:39:18,250 --> 00:39:20,030
start setting up a ceasefire.

1134
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:21,890
He made the comments Friday after a two

1135
00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:24,350
-hour meeting in the Oval Office with Ukraine's

1136
00:39:24,350 --> 00:39:27,590
President Zelensky, who told reporters that he agreed.

1137
00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:29,010
He is right.

1138
00:39:29,290 --> 00:39:30,050
President is right.

1139
00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:32,150
We have to stop where we are.

1140
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:35,030
This is important to stop where we are

1141
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:36,910
and then to speak.

1142
00:39:36,910 --> 00:39:40,810
Getting there, however, remains a challenge, and Ukrainians

1143
00:39:40,810 --> 00:39:42,510
say largely because of Russia.

1144
00:39:43,170 --> 00:39:46,390
NPR's Ukraine correspondent Joanna Kakissis in Kyiv joins

1145
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:46,530
us.

1146
00:39:46,570 --> 00:39:47,930
Joanna, thanks for being with us.

1147
00:39:48,110 --> 00:39:49,610
Thanks for having me on the show, Scott.

1148
00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:53,750
How are Ukrainians reacting to President Trump's latest

1149
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:54,870
proposal to end the war?

1150
00:39:55,610 --> 00:39:58,230
Well, Scott, Ukrainians certainly want a ceasefire.

1151
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:59,790
They want an end to the war, which

1152
00:39:59,790 --> 00:40:00,550
Russia started.

1153
00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:02,590
And they certainly see that this is a

1154
00:40:02,590 --> 00:40:03,290
war of attrition.

1155
00:40:03,490 --> 00:40:05,850
And Russia is larger and has more resources.

1156
00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:08,990
In Kyiv, we spoke with Vladislav Havrylov, who

1157
00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:11,070
investigates Russian war crimes here.

1158
00:40:11,390 --> 00:40:12,570
And here's how he put it.

1159
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:16,170
He's saying that the war is depleting Ukraine,

1160
00:40:16,330 --> 00:40:18,470
that there are not enough people or resources

1161
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:21,050
or emotional bandwidth to keep fighting indefinitely.

1162
00:40:21,390 --> 00:40:23,730
However, like many Ukrainians, he says that a

1163
00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:27,090
ceasefire favoring Russia would only open Ukraine to

1164
00:40:27,090 --> 00:40:28,390
future Russian attacks.

1165
00:40:28,850 --> 00:40:31,890
Now, has President Zelensky tried to convince the

1166
00:40:31,890 --> 00:40:35,310
Trump administration that accommodating Russia is not going

1167
00:40:35,310 --> 00:40:36,050
to lead to peace?

1168
00:40:36,910 --> 00:40:38,370
So, Scott, before I get into that, let

1169
00:40:38,370 --> 00:40:40,990
me point out that Russia actually began its

1170
00:40:40,990 --> 00:40:43,870
war on Ukraine back in 2014, seizing parts

1171
00:40:43,870 --> 00:40:44,970
of the south and east.

1172
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:47,850
Now, Russia agreed to previous ceasefires during that

1173
00:40:47,850 --> 00:40:50,130
stage of the war, but repeatedly violated the

1174
00:40:50,130 --> 00:40:50,450
terms.

1175
00:40:50,590 --> 00:40:53,410
And then in 2020, Russian forces tried to

1176
00:40:53,410 --> 00:40:54,490
invade all of Ukraine.

1177
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:57,030
So Zelensky told reporters in Washington that to

1178
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:59,750
make a current ceasefire work, you need to

1179
00:40:59,750 --> 00:41:02,990
strengthen Ukraine and force Russian President Vladimir Putin

1180
00:41:02,990 --> 00:41:04,550
into concessions.

1181
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:05,530
OK, a couple of things.

1182
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:09,950
First, interesting that this started when Russia took

1183
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:10,810
over Crimea.

1184
00:41:11,370 --> 00:41:13,630
Forget all the other stuff that happened in

1185
00:41:13,630 --> 00:41:14,170
2014.

1186
00:41:14,370 --> 00:41:15,430
By the way, it turns out Boris —

1187
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:17,730
Forget the fact that this is what democracy

1188
00:41:17,730 --> 00:41:18,230
looks like.

1189
00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:18,730
They voted.

1190
00:41:19,350 --> 00:41:24,330
The public voted in a democratic fashion in

1191
00:41:24,330 --> 00:41:26,910
Crimea and voted for the Russians to take

1192
00:41:26,910 --> 00:41:27,110
over.

1193
00:41:27,110 --> 00:41:28,830
That's what democracy looks like.

1194
00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:30,570
No, that's not what democracy looks like because

1195
00:41:30,570 --> 00:41:31,430
it's not right.

1196
00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:35,790
It turns out Boris Johnson, when he went

1197
00:41:35,790 --> 00:41:38,910
in to stop the peace negotiations, he brought

1198
00:41:38,910 --> 00:41:41,490
in one of his big donors to his

1199
00:41:41,490 --> 00:41:43,950
outfit, his organization.

1200
00:41:44,530 --> 00:41:47,030
And once the peace process was stopped, that

1201
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:48,630
guy donated a million pounds.

1202
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:51,650
Just one of those little irritating little things

1203
00:41:51,650 --> 00:41:52,410
that pops up.

1204
00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:55,530
The second thing, you know what I'm missing?

1205
00:41:55,530 --> 00:41:58,890
Besides endless war footage of all the people

1206
00:41:58,890 --> 00:42:01,470
being killed in Ukraine, I know it's available.

1207
00:42:01,670 --> 00:42:03,470
Please don't email me and say it's on

1208
00:42:03,470 --> 00:42:03,990
Telegram.

1209
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:04,510
I know.

1210
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:07,930
I'm talking about mainstream visuals.

1211
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:09,750
We've had it of everything.

1212
00:42:10,610 --> 00:42:12,610
Of all the wars that are important to

1213
00:42:12,610 --> 00:42:13,810
television, they show it.

1214
00:42:13,830 --> 00:42:15,050
So this one is just not important.

1215
00:42:15,250 --> 00:42:17,650
And what I never see or hear is

1216
00:42:17,650 --> 00:42:18,630
men on the street.

1217
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:23,530
Can I hear one Ukrainian voice just once?

1218
00:42:24,670 --> 00:42:28,090
I don't ever hear a Ukrainian person speaking

1219
00:42:28,090 --> 00:42:29,790
about what they think about what's going on.

1220
00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:30,910
It's always some analyst.

1221
00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:33,290
I have seen and heard this.

1222
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:35,290
Well, then we need to bring some clips

1223
00:42:35,290 --> 00:42:36,750
because I'm skeptical.

1224
00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:38,770
I don't see any of it.

1225
00:42:39,230 --> 00:42:40,810
Well, you're saying that the whole war is

1226
00:42:40,810 --> 00:42:41,910
a scam, is a fake?

1227
00:42:42,030 --> 00:42:44,910
No, I'm saying that they're not being honest

1228
00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:45,450
about it.

1229
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:48,430
And maybe the Ukrainians are really sick and

1230
00:42:48,430 --> 00:42:49,150
tired of this.

1231
00:42:49,230 --> 00:42:51,050
And it's not just, well, you know, it's

1232
00:42:51,050 --> 00:42:52,070
hard to get people to fight.

1233
00:42:52,070 --> 00:42:53,950
I'm not going to argue against that because

1234
00:42:53,950 --> 00:42:55,190
they should be.

1235
00:42:55,450 --> 00:42:56,770
Yes, I'm sure they are.

1236
00:42:57,890 --> 00:42:58,630
Sure, they are.

1237
00:42:58,730 --> 00:42:59,810
All right, let's go to clip two.

1238
00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:03,230
For us, all the signals from Russians, they

1239
00:43:03,230 --> 00:43:06,650
are not new, but we count on President,

1240
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:08,870
on his pressure on Putin to stop this

1241
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:09,090
war.

1242
00:43:09,690 --> 00:43:11,590
And by pressure, he means additional U.S.

1243
00:43:11,650 --> 00:43:14,350
sanctions or supplying Ukraine with American weapons like

1244
00:43:14,350 --> 00:43:17,030
the Tomahawk cruise missile, which can hit targets

1245
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:18,290
deep inside Russia.

1246
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:20,150
I'm also, I got to stop here.

1247
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:23,890
Why do we not have protests against these

1248
00:43:23,890 --> 00:43:29,550
completely misnomered, misnamed weapons?

1249
00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:31,890
They should, I mean, isn't.

1250
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:33,290
You mean by the Native Americans?

1251
00:43:33,310 --> 00:43:33,690
Yes, yes.

1252
00:43:33,690 --> 00:43:34,910
By the indigenous people?

1253
00:43:34,970 --> 00:43:35,190
Yes.

1254
00:43:35,490 --> 00:43:37,350
Bitching and moaning about the Tomahawk missile?

1255
00:43:37,570 --> 00:43:37,850
Yes.

1256
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:39,590
What do Tomahawks do?

1257
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:41,090
Do they scalp the enemy?

1258
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:43,550
I mean, this is this is an outrage

1259
00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:45,610
that we keep calling them Tomahawks on NPR.

1260
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:48,270
But the Trump administration has not agreed to

1261
00:43:48,270 --> 00:43:48,650
either.

1262
00:43:49,330 --> 00:43:51,930
Can President Zelensky do anything more to convince

1263
00:43:51,930 --> 00:43:52,130
him?

1264
00:43:52,910 --> 00:43:54,150
Well, that's not clear because.

1265
00:43:54,270 --> 00:43:55,230
He can do a dance.

1266
00:43:55,470 --> 00:43:57,830
You know, Ukrainians often see their diplomatic efforts

1267
00:43:57,830 --> 00:44:00,650
fall apart after Trump talks with Putin, which

1268
00:44:00,650 --> 00:44:02,230
he did before Zelensky's visit.

1269
00:44:02,410 --> 00:44:04,530
And Zelensky, by the way, has spent months

1270
00:44:04,530 --> 00:44:06,850
working on his relationship with Trump, which got

1271
00:44:06,850 --> 00:44:08,450
off to a very rocky start at the

1272
00:44:08,450 --> 00:44:09,270
beginning of the year.

1273
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:12,310
Ukraine has also signed a minerals deal with

1274
00:44:12,310 --> 00:44:13,290
the Trump administration.

1275
00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:16,630
Zelensky offered cutting edge drones in exchange for

1276
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:18,210
maybe some Tomahawk cruise missiles.

1277
00:44:19,530 --> 00:44:22,310
Ukrainian diplomacy did seem to pay off last

1278
00:44:22,310 --> 00:44:25,830
month when Trump suggested Russia was weak and

1279
00:44:25,830 --> 00:44:27,310
Ukraine could even win this war.

1280
00:44:27,410 --> 00:44:29,350
But Zelensky walked away Friday with not much

1281
00:44:29,350 --> 00:44:29,910
of anything.

1282
00:44:30,610 --> 00:44:33,430
And Trump said he will meet with Putin

1283
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:34,530
soon in Hungary.

1284
00:44:35,370 --> 00:44:38,070
Do Ukrainians tend to believe that President Trump

1285
00:44:38,070 --> 00:44:40,990
alone can convince Russia to agree to a

1286
00:44:40,990 --> 00:44:41,470
ceasefire?

1287
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:43,510
Well, that's interesting you ask that, Scott.

1288
00:44:43,630 --> 00:44:45,590
I have some man on the street interviews

1289
00:44:45,590 --> 00:44:47,170
from actual Ukrainians.

1290
00:44:47,170 --> 00:44:48,490
And here's what they have to say.

1291
00:44:49,210 --> 00:44:50,770
You know, some Ukrainians are skeptical.

1292
00:44:51,150 --> 00:44:53,830
I spoke with Oleksandr Kraev of the Ukrainian

1293
00:44:53,830 --> 00:44:55,970
Prizm Foreign Policy Council in Kyiv.

1294
00:44:56,010 --> 00:44:57,870
And he said Trump won't be able to

1295
00:44:57,870 --> 00:45:00,650
negotiate any kind of ceasefire involving Russia without

1296
00:45:00,650 --> 00:45:04,010
China, which supports Russia politically and financially.

1297
00:45:04,370 --> 00:45:06,770
But that wasn't the question Scott wanted to

1298
00:45:06,770 --> 00:45:08,130
know about Ukrainians.

1299
00:45:08,830 --> 00:45:10,530
And you give us some consul guy.

1300
00:45:11,010 --> 00:45:12,730
See, this is this is what bothers me.

1301
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:15,430
There's some guy who runs an NGO.

1302
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:17,170
Yeah, they're just playing games.

1303
00:45:17,310 --> 00:45:19,190
OK, well, what's the last one?

1304
00:45:19,250 --> 00:45:19,490
Short.

1305
00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:20,230
This is short.

1306
00:45:22,210 --> 00:45:22,530
Short.

1307
00:45:23,050 --> 00:45:24,970
China is the only one who can influence

1308
00:45:24,970 --> 00:45:27,450
Russia to stop hostilities and to stop the

1309
00:45:27,450 --> 00:45:29,830
attacks and to stop the war as it

1310
00:45:29,830 --> 00:45:30,030
is.

1311
00:45:30,430 --> 00:45:33,390
So basically, without substantial push from China and

1312
00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:36,330
without substantial push from the United States on

1313
00:45:36,330 --> 00:45:38,390
China in order to push on Russia, I

1314
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:39,750
don't think anything will be done.

1315
00:45:40,350 --> 00:45:42,010
He says the next steps might be clear

1316
00:45:42,010 --> 00:45:44,270
after China and the U.S. fight out

1317
00:45:44,270 --> 00:45:44,950
their trade war.

1318
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:47,410
Turns out that the Ukrainians speak perfect English,

1319
00:45:47,530 --> 00:45:48,730
but we don't have any men on the

1320
00:45:48,730 --> 00:45:48,950
street.

1321
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:52,310
OK, so I have a few clips here

1322
00:45:52,310 --> 00:45:56,470
of Zelensky in D.C. And what was

1323
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:58,770
different is this was more like a board

1324
00:45:58,770 --> 00:45:59,110
meeting.

1325
00:45:59,610 --> 00:46:01,530
So I found the setting to be interesting.

1326
00:46:01,650 --> 00:46:03,230
This wasn't a come and sit down in

1327
00:46:03,230 --> 00:46:04,590
front of my gold fireplace.

1328
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:06,350
This was a come on.

1329
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:07,470
I want you to come into the boardroom

1330
00:46:07,470 --> 00:46:07,850
here.

1331
00:46:08,290 --> 00:46:10,410
Volodymyr, why don't you sit down and why

1332
00:46:10,410 --> 00:46:11,450
don't you tell us what you want?

1333
00:46:11,450 --> 00:46:13,650
U.S. President Donald Trump is backing off

1334
00:46:13,650 --> 00:46:16,930
on providing Ukraine with long range Tomahawk missiles,

1335
00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:20,590
something his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky is still

1336
00:46:20,590 --> 00:46:22,210
lobbying hard to receive.

1337
00:46:22,530 --> 00:46:26,190
Ukraine has such thousands of our production drones,

1338
00:46:26,410 --> 00:46:28,130
but we don't have Tomahawks.

1339
00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:29,750
That's why we need Tomahawks.

1340
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:33,170
But the United States is a very strong

1341
00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:33,990
production.

1342
00:46:34,730 --> 00:46:37,910
And the United States has Tomahawks and other

1343
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:39,510
missiles, very strong missiles.

1344
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:42,730
But they can have our thousands of drones.

1345
00:46:42,990 --> 00:46:45,470
That's why where we can work together, where

1346
00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:48,650
we can strengthen American production.

1347
00:46:48,810 --> 00:46:49,630
This is hilarious.

1348
00:46:50,190 --> 00:46:52,110
Hey, man, we got awesome drones.

1349
00:46:52,670 --> 00:46:54,050
Give us some Tomahawks.

1350
00:46:54,110 --> 00:46:55,430
What kind of deal is that?

1351
00:46:55,970 --> 00:46:57,610
We don't want the Tomahawks.

1352
00:46:57,810 --> 00:46:58,790
That's ridiculous.

1353
00:47:00,050 --> 00:47:00,870
I mean, the drones.

1354
00:47:01,650 --> 00:47:03,410
It's just it's like, oh, we have thousands

1355
00:47:03,410 --> 00:47:04,370
of drones.

1356
00:47:05,170 --> 00:47:06,570
Why don't you stick them up your butt?

1357
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:07,790
We don't need the drones.

1358
00:47:08,010 --> 00:47:09,210
What do we use drones for?

1359
00:47:09,210 --> 00:47:11,570
Other than to terrorize our own people over

1360
00:47:11,570 --> 00:47:12,170
New Jersey.

1361
00:47:12,450 --> 00:47:14,130
Well, that that'll be later later.

1362
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:16,390
Well, so the thing the other thing is,

1363
00:47:16,490 --> 00:47:17,990
we you know, there's got to be at

1364
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:21,930
least in the meetings without without without Vladimir,

1365
00:47:22,190 --> 00:47:27,810
where they where they they say, you know,

1366
00:47:27,850 --> 00:47:29,770
if he gets a hold of these Tomahawks,

1367
00:47:30,250 --> 00:47:31,950
he's going to send one right into the

1368
00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:32,310
Kremlin.

1369
00:47:32,490 --> 00:47:33,170
Of course.

1370
00:47:33,630 --> 00:47:35,930
Well, actually, there's a little more to the

1371
00:47:35,930 --> 00:47:37,210
Tomahawk business.

1372
00:47:37,210 --> 00:47:39,770
But first, let's go to my boy, my

1373
00:47:39,770 --> 00:47:42,790
boy from Candanavia, Rassoulis, Andrew Rassoulis.

1374
00:47:42,910 --> 00:47:44,050
I got a rundown from him.

1375
00:47:44,190 --> 00:47:46,030
Once you haven't heard from him for a

1376
00:47:46,030 --> 00:47:47,930
couple of weeks because it wasn't interesting.

1377
00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:49,250
But now it's interesting again.

1378
00:47:49,250 --> 00:47:50,670
So they get him back in.

1379
00:47:51,150 --> 00:47:52,810
And of course, what happened in the backdrop

1380
00:47:52,810 --> 00:47:55,350
of all this is the Trump Putin phone

1381
00:47:55,350 --> 00:47:55,990
call.

1382
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:59,150
Well, certainly the conversation that he had with

1383
00:47:59,150 --> 00:48:03,010
Putin, that Putin's request on Thursday seemed to

1384
00:48:03,010 --> 00:48:05,970
make a very significant impact on Trump.

1385
00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:11,110
We saw that display in yesterday's meeting with

1386
00:48:11,110 --> 00:48:14,790
Zelensky in the open news part where we

1387
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:16,270
could actually watch the conversation.

1388
00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:18,750
And I watched Trump very carefully.

1389
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:22,210
And he seemed to me to be very

1390
00:48:22,210 --> 00:48:25,770
convinced, not that there was a guarantee at

1391
00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:28,470
achieving a peace settlement, but that there was

1392
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:31,330
a real prospect, which is why he's going

1393
00:48:31,330 --> 00:48:35,890
now this distance to a bilateral summit with

1394
00:48:35,890 --> 00:48:38,750
Putin in Hungary and maybe about four weeks

1395
00:48:38,750 --> 00:48:39,070
from now.

1396
00:48:39,210 --> 00:48:40,430
We'll have to see sometime in November, I

1397
00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:40,910
would imagine.

1398
00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:42,230
But there was a shift.

1399
00:48:42,410 --> 00:48:44,370
I mean, so the Russians said something or

1400
00:48:44,370 --> 00:48:46,810
Putin said something to Trump in those two

1401
00:48:46,810 --> 00:48:48,410
and a half hours that we, of course,

1402
00:48:48,490 --> 00:48:49,870
do not know what that was.

1403
00:48:49,950 --> 00:48:53,230
But we know by based on Trump's reaction

1404
00:48:53,230 --> 00:48:56,810
that Putin must have convinced him based on

1405
00:48:56,810 --> 00:48:58,090
two, probably two tracks.

1406
00:48:58,090 --> 00:49:00,950
One is something about the Ukraine war that

1407
00:49:00,950 --> 00:49:03,110
maybe there's some movement possible from the Russian

1408
00:49:03,110 --> 00:49:06,270
side and to the bilateral side.

1409
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:09,950
This is the ongoing American and Russian attempts

1410
00:49:09,950 --> 00:49:13,410
to rebuild the bilateral relationship, which is very

1411
00:49:13,410 --> 00:49:15,510
important to both Trump and Putin.

1412
00:49:16,210 --> 00:49:19,270
Anyways, all that led to Trump being convinced

1413
00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:21,670
it's worth a shot and diplomacy is back

1414
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:22,310
on the track.

1415
00:49:23,150 --> 00:49:25,070
OK, so something happened.

1416
00:49:25,170 --> 00:49:26,710
We don't know exactly what.

1417
00:49:27,290 --> 00:49:30,250
And I think it has to do with

1418
00:49:30,250 --> 00:49:32,750
the with the previous clips because he didn't

1419
00:49:32,750 --> 00:49:33,930
put two and two together here.

1420
00:49:33,930 --> 00:49:35,250
But I'm going to do it.

1421
00:49:35,410 --> 00:49:36,770
OK, I think it has something to do

1422
00:49:36,770 --> 00:49:37,190
with China.

1423
00:49:38,610 --> 00:49:41,090
Well, he actually does go into this in

1424
00:49:41,090 --> 00:49:43,190
a in a later clip here.

1425
00:49:43,930 --> 00:49:45,510
But first, we need to talk about the

1426
00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:46,170
tomahawks.

1427
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:48,630
And again, I mean, I think it was

1428
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:52,570
almost more insulting to have Volodymyr Zelensky sitting

1429
00:49:52,570 --> 00:49:54,690
there saying, hey, man, I got a thousand

1430
00:49:54,690 --> 00:49:55,170
drones.

1431
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:56,210
Give me some tomahawks.

1432
00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:58,350
I mean, even price wise, it doesn't make

1433
00:49:58,350 --> 00:49:58,970
any sense.

1434
00:49:59,750 --> 00:50:02,370
But the tomahawk turnaround is is on deck

1435
00:50:02,370 --> 00:50:02,610
here.

1436
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:05,030
Well, I think the turnaround is predominantly diplomatic.

1437
00:50:05,370 --> 00:50:07,170
I mean, yes, the United States has to

1438
00:50:07,170 --> 00:50:08,370
maintain its stockpile.

1439
00:50:08,850 --> 00:50:11,150
And there was never any talk, even when

1440
00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:15,150
Trump was suggesting that they might sell tomahawks

1441
00:50:15,150 --> 00:50:15,750
to Ukrainians.

1442
00:50:16,090 --> 00:50:19,030
The numbers floated in the press were like

1443
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:22,130
10, 15, very small numbers and not all

1444
00:50:22,130 --> 00:50:24,610
that significant in the battlefield context.

1445
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:29,050
You would need hundreds of these missiles to

1446
00:50:29,050 --> 00:50:31,030
really be effective strategically.

1447
00:50:31,630 --> 00:50:33,410
They need to be fired in salvos and

1448
00:50:33,410 --> 00:50:33,770
so on.

1449
00:50:34,090 --> 00:50:38,110
So there was always this limitation from Trump.

1450
00:50:38,330 --> 00:50:40,390
He was, I think, mostly using it as

1451
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:43,470
a kind of a rhetorical push against the

1452
00:50:43,470 --> 00:50:43,770
Russians.

1453
00:50:44,410 --> 00:50:46,550
And it may have succeeded because he got

1454
00:50:46,550 --> 00:50:48,510
a phone call on Thursday from Putin.

1455
00:50:49,610 --> 00:50:51,270
So I thought that to be interesting.

1456
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:53,510
I don't know much about the tomahawk missiles,

1457
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:55,930
but I guess that they're not just good

1458
00:50:55,930 --> 00:50:57,290
just having like 10 of them.

1459
00:50:57,570 --> 00:50:59,730
You got to have hundreds of them in

1460
00:50:59,730 --> 00:51:00,770
order for them to be effective.

1461
00:51:01,090 --> 00:51:02,310
Well, that's what he said.

1462
00:51:02,350 --> 00:51:03,290
That's what he said.

1463
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:05,030
I know, but that's not the case.

1464
00:51:05,170 --> 00:51:06,550
It's a cruise missile.

1465
00:51:06,750 --> 00:51:09,070
Well, don't they need hundreds of cruise missiles?

1466
00:51:09,170 --> 00:51:10,350
They used to use them in the Middle

1467
00:51:10,350 --> 00:51:11,670
East from the side.

1468
00:51:11,790 --> 00:51:14,510
They shot them off of ships and it'd

1469
00:51:14,510 --> 00:51:15,630
be one shot off.

1470
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:17,250
And then another, there'd be like two.

1471
00:51:17,250 --> 00:51:19,350
And they go all, I think those are

1472
00:51:19,350 --> 00:51:21,350
the things that may have hit one of

1473
00:51:21,350 --> 00:51:23,150
the Iranian nuke plants.

1474
00:51:23,310 --> 00:51:24,610
You don't have hundreds of them.

1475
00:51:24,690 --> 00:51:25,790
They don't even, I don't even know if

1476
00:51:25,790 --> 00:51:26,690
we have that many.

1477
00:51:27,050 --> 00:51:28,430
We were bitching and moaning that we haven't

1478
00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:29,630
got enough tomahawks.

1479
00:51:30,130 --> 00:51:31,770
It's not like a little bitty thing.

1480
00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:33,210
It's a big giant missile.

1481
00:51:33,630 --> 00:51:35,950
Yeah, subsonic cruise missile.

1482
00:51:36,730 --> 00:51:39,550
Yeah, and it floats around, loaded the ground

1483
00:51:39,550 --> 00:51:40,950
so the radar can't catch it.

1484
00:51:41,070 --> 00:51:43,570
So they can't stop it with like their

1485
00:51:43,570 --> 00:51:44,990
own Russian Iron Dome?

1486
00:51:46,330 --> 00:51:47,910
There is no Russian Iron Dome.

1487
00:51:48,050 --> 00:51:48,670
Well, how do you know?

1488
00:51:48,750 --> 00:51:49,610
We've never tried it.

1489
00:51:51,070 --> 00:51:53,170
Well, we don't want to find out by

1490
00:51:53,170 --> 00:51:55,070
sending a cruise missile to Moscow.

1491
00:51:55,290 --> 00:51:57,310
Obviously, you don't want this dancer to have

1492
00:51:57,310 --> 00:51:58,290
any tomahawks.

1493
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:59,030
That's obvious.

1494
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:59,970
That's just no good.

1495
00:52:00,210 --> 00:52:01,210
No, it's no good.

1496
00:52:01,230 --> 00:52:02,890
Even if there was a deal on deck,

1497
00:52:02,930 --> 00:52:03,790
we're not going to do that.

1498
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:05,470
And I think you have to have US

1499
00:52:05,470 --> 00:52:07,550
guidance in order to use those.

1500
00:52:08,370 --> 00:52:10,870
I don't think they just light the fuse

1501
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:12,450
and go, all right, put your fingers in

1502
00:52:12,450 --> 00:52:12,750
your ears.

1503
00:52:13,230 --> 00:52:15,010
Put their hands over their ears.

1504
00:52:15,010 --> 00:52:16,370
I don't think that's how it works.

1505
00:52:16,850 --> 00:52:19,210
So, of course, we had the bilateral coming

1506
00:52:19,210 --> 00:52:22,090
up in Budapest, and there could be some

1507
00:52:22,090 --> 00:52:23,930
issues with the European nations.

1508
00:52:24,010 --> 00:52:24,790
Oh, they will.

1509
00:52:24,990 --> 00:52:26,910
I mean, there will be certain countries that

1510
00:52:26,910 --> 00:52:29,690
will insist on what they would say, the

1511
00:52:29,690 --> 00:52:32,550
rule of law and the adherence to the

1512
00:52:32,550 --> 00:52:33,870
International Criminal Court.

1513
00:52:34,490 --> 00:52:36,390
On the other hand, it's well known these

1514
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:39,990
provisions can be waived for special circumstances.

1515
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:43,030
And it can be waived to achieve a

1516
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:44,430
diplomatic meeting.

1517
00:52:44,850 --> 00:52:47,490
That is certainly within the construct of the

1518
00:52:47,490 --> 00:52:47,770
law.

1519
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:49,690
So exemptions are permissible.

1520
00:52:50,610 --> 00:52:53,550
And so he would have to get a

1521
00:52:53,550 --> 00:52:54,790
flight plan and so on.

1522
00:52:55,630 --> 00:52:57,250
If you look at the map, I did

1523
00:52:57,250 --> 00:52:57,850
a quick look.

1524
00:52:58,330 --> 00:53:01,570
Black Sea to Mediterranean international airspace.

1525
00:53:01,930 --> 00:53:04,750
You'd have to cross Slovenian airspace and then

1526
00:53:04,750 --> 00:53:06,490
Austrian airspace to get to Hungary.

1527
00:53:06,490 --> 00:53:08,890
Those would be the minimum amount of European

1528
00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:11,430
countries that would have to grant him airspace

1529
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:12,150
privileges.

1530
00:53:12,450 --> 00:53:14,690
But I think under the circumstances, I would

1531
00:53:14,690 --> 00:53:17,170
be surprised to find those countries or any

1532
00:53:17,170 --> 00:53:18,790
other countries really stand in the way.

1533
00:53:19,350 --> 00:53:19,650
All right.

1534
00:53:19,730 --> 00:53:21,430
Well, I do have the latest out of

1535
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:21,750
Brussels.

1536
00:53:22,350 --> 00:53:25,330
This is the second don't to Queen Ursula,

1537
00:53:25,850 --> 00:53:31,270
cautiously welcoming the Putin-Trump meeting in Budapest.

1538
00:53:31,490 --> 00:53:34,790
The European Commission has cautiously welcomed the announcement

1539
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:37,090
of a summit between the American and Russian

1540
00:53:37,090 --> 00:53:39,670
presidents to find a solution to the war

1541
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:40,290
in Ukraine.

1542
00:53:40,590 --> 00:53:43,030
The meeting between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin

1543
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:45,390
could take place within two weeks in Budapest,

1544
00:53:45,690 --> 00:53:48,450
although no further details are available at the

1545
00:53:48,450 --> 00:53:48,710
moment.

1546
00:53:48,930 --> 00:53:50,770
What I want to convey from the European

1547
00:53:50,770 --> 00:53:52,830
Commission point of view and from President von

1548
00:53:52,830 --> 00:53:54,670
der Leyen's point of view, first to repeat

1549
00:53:54,670 --> 00:53:58,690
that any meeting that moves forward the process

1550
00:53:58,690 --> 00:54:00,650
of achieving a just and lasting peace for

1551
00:54:00,650 --> 00:54:02,090
Ukraine is welcome.

1552
00:54:02,090 --> 00:54:05,030
The location of the meeting is politically significant.

1553
00:54:05,350 --> 00:54:07,870
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban is seen as

1554
00:54:07,870 --> 00:54:09,710
close to Donald Trump as well as to

1555
00:54:09,710 --> 00:54:10,490
Vladimir Putin.

1556
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:12,970
Furthermore, Viktor Orban is at odds with the

1557
00:54:12,970 --> 00:54:15,450
European Union regarding its stance on the war

1558
00:54:15,450 --> 00:54:15,930
in Ukraine.

1559
00:54:16,590 --> 00:54:17,870
Cautiously, cautiously.

1560
00:54:18,070 --> 00:54:19,530
I think that was an interesting clip, the

1561
00:54:19,530 --> 00:54:23,650
previous one, about how it's illegal actually to

1562
00:54:23,650 --> 00:54:26,230
have Putin go to Budapest.

1563
00:54:26,690 --> 00:54:27,250
Yeah.

1564
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:31,130
Because he's indicted by the International Criminal Court,

1565
00:54:31,130 --> 00:54:32,970
which is part of the EU, and so

1566
00:54:32,970 --> 00:54:34,070
they have to arrest him.

1567
00:54:34,210 --> 00:54:36,070
Well, no, I think what he said is

1568
00:54:36,070 --> 00:54:36,510
that they can...

1569
00:54:36,510 --> 00:54:37,770
No, then he said that they can get

1570
00:54:37,770 --> 00:54:38,310
an exception.

1571
00:54:38,310 --> 00:54:39,250
Yes, exactly.

1572
00:54:39,570 --> 00:54:42,210
Which has to be done in writing or

1573
00:54:42,210 --> 00:54:44,250
just somebody says it or the whole thing

1574
00:54:44,250 --> 00:54:44,830
bullcrap.

1575
00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:47,090
In triplicate with carbon copy paper.

1576
00:54:47,950 --> 00:54:49,710
All right, we got some stamps here.

1577
00:54:49,830 --> 00:54:50,870
All right, you're good to go.

1578
00:54:51,070 --> 00:54:51,970
You've got passage.

1579
00:54:52,850 --> 00:54:56,150
And then Queen Ursula, this was puzzling to

1580
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:56,330
me.

1581
00:54:56,890 --> 00:55:00,030
This is her response to the, let's put

1582
00:55:00,030 --> 00:55:03,190
ceasefire in big quotes, since it seems to

1583
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:06,370
be still some firing going on in Israel,

1584
00:55:06,610 --> 00:55:08,610
between Israel and the Gazans.

1585
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:13,050
War is over, so I guess now it's

1586
00:55:13,050 --> 00:55:15,050
time for Europe to do something.

1587
00:55:15,450 --> 00:55:18,270
The devastating war in Gaza has now come

1588
00:55:18,270 --> 00:55:21,010
to an end, marking a pivotal moment not

1589
00:55:21,010 --> 00:55:23,110
only for Gaza, but also for the European

1590
00:55:23,110 --> 00:55:27,070
Union and the wider Mediterranean, marking the moment

1591
00:55:27,070 --> 00:55:29,990
when the future of the region is being

1592
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:30,870
rewritten.

1593
00:55:31,170 --> 00:55:33,850
Europe has a stake in shaping a future

1594
00:55:33,850 --> 00:55:37,130
of peace and prosperity, because this is our

1595
00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:39,450
common region and we want to play our

1596
00:55:39,450 --> 00:55:40,350
part as partners.

1597
00:55:40,830 --> 00:55:43,390
And this is our commitment to our shared

1598
00:55:43,390 --> 00:55:44,630
Mediterranean home.

1599
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:46,990
Our shared Mediterranean home?

1600
00:55:47,350 --> 00:55:48,870
When did this happen all of a sudden?

1601
00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:51,230
Probably during the Eurovision song contest.

1602
00:55:52,410 --> 00:55:55,410
So they have the whole system for it.

1603
00:55:55,410 --> 00:55:59,910
In an increasingly competitive and contested global economy,

1604
00:56:00,170 --> 00:56:03,250
our economic ties with our southern neighbours have

1605
00:56:03,250 --> 00:56:04,750
already grown stronger.

1606
00:56:04,930 --> 00:56:07,610
Trade between the European Union and the rest

1607
00:56:07,610 --> 00:56:10,510
of the Mediterranean has increased by over 60

1608
00:56:10,510 --> 00:56:12,410
% in the last five years.

1609
00:56:12,590 --> 00:56:15,050
Our value chains are more and more interconnected,

1610
00:56:15,390 --> 00:56:17,510
so we should work on a deeper integration.

1611
00:56:18,010 --> 00:56:21,190
We should simplify making business with each other

1612
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:23,770
and we should create new ties between our

1613
00:56:23,770 --> 00:56:26,990
industries, our universities, our institutions.

1614
00:56:27,330 --> 00:56:29,730
This is why today we are making a

1615
00:56:29,730 --> 00:56:31,330
clear offer to our neighbours.

1616
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:36,550
Let us create a common Mediterranean space with

1617
00:56:36,550 --> 00:56:39,990
the goal of progressive integration between the two

1618
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:40,430
of us.

1619
00:56:40,690 --> 00:56:42,790
And this is the essence of the Pact

1620
00:56:42,790 --> 00:56:43,590
of the Mediterranean.

1621
00:56:43,850 --> 00:56:45,610
The Pact of the Mediterranean?

1622
00:56:45,770 --> 00:56:48,870
See, this is exactly what Trump knows isn't

1623
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:49,670
a good idea.

1624
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:52,150
Let the Arabs run the place.

1625
00:56:54,310 --> 00:56:56,450
Well, they're doing a pretty bad job.

1626
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:58,370
Some breaking news this hour.

1627
00:56:58,490 --> 00:57:01,370
The Israeli military has confirmed that fighter jets

1628
00:57:01,370 --> 00:57:04,530
carried out airstrikes in the Rafah area of

1629
00:57:04,530 --> 00:57:06,550
southern Gaza on Sunday.

1630
00:57:06,730 --> 00:57:08,890
The army says the strikes were in response

1631
00:57:08,890 --> 00:57:11,870
to attacks by Hamas militants on Israeli troops.

1632
00:57:12,430 --> 00:57:14,530
The militant group Hamas has so far not

1633
00:57:14,530 --> 00:57:16,870
commented on these strikes.

1634
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:20,010
Meanwhile, the Rafah border crossing between Gaza and

1635
00:57:20,010 --> 00:57:22,090
Egypt is still closed.

1636
00:57:22,250 --> 00:57:24,450
It had been hoped that aid trucks could

1637
00:57:24,450 --> 00:57:26,810
start using the crossing from Monday, but Israel's

1638
00:57:26,810 --> 00:57:29,510
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says it will remain

1639
00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:32,510
closed until further notice, adding its reopening will

1640
00:57:32,510 --> 00:57:35,410
depend on Hamas handing over the bodies of

1641
00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:37,270
the remaining deceased hostages.

1642
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:41,250
Israel says it has identified both bodies of

1643
00:57:41,250 --> 00:57:44,130
two deceased hostages that Hamas has handed over

1644
00:57:44,130 --> 00:57:45,490
on Saturday night.

1645
00:57:45,490 --> 00:57:48,110
Hamas has so far returned the remains of

1646
00:57:48,110 --> 00:57:52,890
12 identified bodies out of 28 deceased hostages.

1647
00:57:53,210 --> 00:57:55,050
So what happens now?

1648
00:57:55,350 --> 00:57:56,910
Here's the problem.

1649
00:57:59,190 --> 00:58:02,830
These guys died maybe over a year ago,

1650
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:04,610
and they started stinking up the place.

1651
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:07,550
They buried them all over Gaza.

1652
00:58:07,770 --> 00:58:09,030
There's a bunch of corpses.

1653
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:12,290
And so they're using bulldozers, they say, to

1654
00:58:12,290 --> 00:58:14,330
have to dig up trying to roll these

1655
00:58:14,330 --> 00:58:15,590
guys out of the graves.

1656
00:58:15,590 --> 00:58:17,210
They're not like in a coffin.

1657
00:58:18,250 --> 00:58:19,090
And so they got a bunch.

1658
00:58:19,210 --> 00:58:20,930
You know, they're not going to get all

1659
00:58:20,930 --> 00:58:22,430
28 of them because most of them are

1660
00:58:22,430 --> 00:58:23,370
decomposed.

1661
00:58:23,550 --> 00:58:25,230
I know, but that wasn't the part of

1662
00:58:25,230 --> 00:58:26,690
the report I was focusing on.

1663
00:58:27,150 --> 00:58:28,330
Oh, no, but the part of the report

1664
00:58:28,330 --> 00:58:30,150
I was focusing on was the guy says,

1665
00:58:30,330 --> 00:58:32,790
because the Israelis are making a big fuss

1666
00:58:32,790 --> 00:58:34,350
about where's our dead bodies.

1667
00:58:35,370 --> 00:58:36,750
Yes, I understand.

1668
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:38,750
But that's not why they were fighting.

1669
00:58:39,050 --> 00:58:42,390
Apparently, Hamas is still shooting at the IDF

1670
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:44,990
behind the yellow line or whatever it is.

1671
00:58:44,990 --> 00:58:48,870
Yeah, so seen yellow, the magical yellow.

1672
00:58:49,230 --> 00:58:49,350
Right.

1673
00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:52,150
But don't we have where the Arab troops

1674
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:54,230
there to go and stop and say, well,

1675
00:58:54,290 --> 00:58:54,910
that's the question.

1676
00:58:55,050 --> 00:58:57,410
And the Indonesians are supposed to be there.

1677
00:58:57,570 --> 00:58:58,310
You know, they should have.

1678
00:58:58,770 --> 00:59:00,990
These guys should have been there by now.

1679
00:59:01,550 --> 00:59:03,570
Well, it doesn't seem like they're there yet.

1680
00:59:06,310 --> 00:59:07,550
Yeah, I agree with that, too.

1681
00:59:07,730 --> 00:59:07,950
Yeah.

1682
00:59:08,050 --> 00:59:10,070
So but they're never going to get these

1683
00:59:10,070 --> 00:59:10,930
bodies back.

1684
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:12,710
Most of them are dissolved.

1685
00:59:13,410 --> 00:59:15,410
That was that was probably a little trick.

1686
00:59:15,410 --> 00:59:18,670
The the Benjamin Netanyahu had up his sleeve,

1687
00:59:18,730 --> 00:59:20,050
I would never get it back so we

1688
00:59:20,050 --> 00:59:21,330
can go and strike him again.

1689
00:59:22,430 --> 00:59:24,850
I, I believe that's a possibility.

1690
00:59:25,150 --> 00:59:29,290
Yeah, which is not not Netanyahu is just

1691
00:59:29,290 --> 00:59:31,870
not, you know, he's he's out of control.

1692
00:59:32,090 --> 00:59:34,730
Yeah, he just announced he's running again.

1693
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:37,590
I don't think he's got the.

1694
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:39,470
Well, you know, the public is so irked

1695
00:59:39,470 --> 00:59:40,050
by him.

1696
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:41,970
If he gets in again, then I have

1697
00:59:41,970 --> 00:59:44,470
to say the elections in Israel are rigged.

1698
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:45,510
Yeah, I agree.

1699
00:59:45,710 --> 00:59:47,350
But who will get in is is the

1700
00:59:47,350 --> 00:59:48,030
is the question.

1701
00:59:48,290 --> 00:59:50,090
If he doesn't get in, who will it

1702
00:59:50,090 --> 00:59:50,350
be?

1703
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:51,570
I don't know.

1704
00:59:52,030 --> 00:59:53,070
Probably some Jew.

1705
00:59:56,010 --> 00:59:59,590
So speaking of Jews, there's it seems to

1706
00:59:59,590 --> 01:00:02,150
be quite a problem with the with the

1707
01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:04,850
upcoming soccer match, the football match.

1708
01:00:06,750 --> 01:00:07,810
In Birmingham.

1709
01:00:10,030 --> 01:00:12,410
And this whole thing is a mess.

1710
01:00:13,050 --> 01:00:13,710
Here's the report.

1711
01:00:13,790 --> 01:00:16,310
This is GBN, so take it for the

1712
01:00:16,310 --> 01:00:17,110
slant they have.

1713
01:00:17,310 --> 01:00:19,970
Maccabi Tel Aviv fans have been banned from

1714
01:00:19,970 --> 01:00:24,310
Aston Villa's Europa League clash in Birmingham over,

1715
01:00:24,610 --> 01:00:26,170
quote, safety fears.

1716
01:00:26,350 --> 01:00:28,870
Many residents have raised concerns about the football

1717
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:30,710
match, which is due to take place on

1718
01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:31,570
the 6th of November.

1719
01:00:32,090 --> 01:00:33,430
Maccabi Tel Aviv.

1720
01:00:33,710 --> 01:00:36,590
We've all seen those harrowing images from Amsterdam.

1721
01:00:37,150 --> 01:00:40,390
I've started a petition to boycott Maccabi Tel

1722
01:00:40,390 --> 01:00:40,510
Aviv.

1723
01:00:40,510 --> 01:00:43,650
There is no space for violence or any

1724
01:00:43,650 --> 01:00:46,250
thugs to come into Aston or indeed Birmingham.

1725
01:00:46,530 --> 01:00:48,370
That is why I urge everyone to sign

1726
01:00:48,370 --> 01:00:49,230
up to this petition.

1727
01:00:50,030 --> 01:00:51,570
Boycott Maccabi Tel Aviv.

1728
01:00:51,790 --> 01:00:52,210
Yes.

1729
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:54,530
So Jews aren't safe in Birmingham.

1730
01:00:55,070 --> 01:00:57,670
Aston Villa Football Club were Jews playing Maccabi

1731
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:58,810
Tel Aviv in the Europa League.

1732
01:00:59,110 --> 01:01:01,730
That was local MP Ayub Khan, one of

1733
01:01:01,730 --> 01:01:03,130
the infamous Gaza gang.

1734
01:01:03,230 --> 01:01:05,270
And he did that ridiculous video.

1735
01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:07,550
And then now this has happened, hasn't it?

1736
01:01:07,730 --> 01:01:09,630
This is a statement from West Midlands police.

1737
01:01:09,630 --> 01:01:12,330
This decision is based on current intelligence and

1738
01:01:12,330 --> 01:01:16,110
previous incidents, including violent clashes and hate crime

1739
01:01:16,110 --> 01:01:19,710
offences that occurred during the 2024 Europa League

1740
01:01:19,710 --> 01:01:22,690
match between Ajax and Maccabi Tel Aviv in

1741
01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:23,070
Amsterdam.

1742
01:01:23,410 --> 01:01:24,910
OK, it's not really about safety.

1743
01:01:25,250 --> 01:01:26,850
We all know what this is about.

1744
01:01:27,150 --> 01:01:27,990
We all know.

1745
01:01:28,250 --> 01:01:31,210
And today the government released this statement.

1746
01:01:31,530 --> 01:01:33,770
You have to step up in relation to

1747
01:01:33,770 --> 01:01:35,030
defeating anti-Semitism.

1748
01:01:35,250 --> 01:01:36,490
Action is what matters.

1749
01:01:37,050 --> 01:01:39,070
And we're absolutely committed to that.

1750
01:01:39,070 --> 01:01:40,790
The discussion we've had this morning was not

1751
01:01:40,790 --> 01:01:41,490
about words.

1752
01:01:42,070 --> 01:01:44,250
It was about what are the actions that

1753
01:01:44,250 --> 01:01:46,290
are going to follow through from this.

1754
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:47,430
It's amazing.

1755
01:01:48,350 --> 01:01:50,470
The Keir Starmer doesn't know whose side to

1756
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:51,210
be on now.

1757
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:54,830
They're like, well, you know, we don't want

1758
01:01:54,830 --> 01:01:57,590
to have problems with the Jews, but we

1759
01:01:57,590 --> 01:01:59,150
don't, you know, you can't really come.

1760
01:01:59,230 --> 01:02:00,830
Well, you can, you can't.

1761
01:02:02,230 --> 01:02:04,410
And of course, all of these cities have

1762
01:02:04,410 --> 01:02:06,870
become completely overrun with Muslims.

1763
01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:09,410
And the Brits are tired of it.

1764
01:02:09,930 --> 01:02:11,130
This is Matt Goodwin.

1765
01:02:11,770 --> 01:02:13,690
He's a conservative journalist.

1766
01:02:13,950 --> 01:02:15,050
Again, GBN.

1767
01:02:15,350 --> 01:02:17,330
Keir Starmer says he is shocked by the

1768
01:02:17,330 --> 01:02:20,190
events in Birmingham, where police supported by local

1769
01:02:20,190 --> 01:02:25,030
independent Muslim politicians have banned Jewish football fans,

1770
01:02:25,090 --> 01:02:27,570
fans of the Maccabi Tel Aviv team from

1771
01:02:27,570 --> 01:02:30,590
coming to Birmingham, our second major city.

1772
01:02:31,030 --> 01:02:32,470
This is a national disgrace.

1773
01:02:32,990 --> 01:02:34,510
This is absolutely appalling.

1774
01:02:34,510 --> 01:02:35,790
But I have a question.

1775
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:37,450
Why is Keir Starmer shocked?

1776
01:02:37,930 --> 01:02:41,230
This Muslim sectarianism is exactly what the Labour

1777
01:02:41,230 --> 01:02:44,450
government and Keir Starmer have enabled for many,

1778
01:02:44,650 --> 01:02:45,110
many years.

1779
01:02:45,230 --> 01:02:47,330
It was the Labour Party that gave us

1780
01:02:47,330 --> 01:02:50,070
a policy of mass uncontrolled immigration while not

1781
01:02:50,070 --> 01:02:52,510
even bothering to integrate our communities.

1782
01:02:52,670 --> 01:02:55,070
It was the Labour Party that recognised Palestine

1783
01:02:55,070 --> 01:02:56,630
at exactly the wrong time.

1784
01:02:56,830 --> 01:02:59,730
The Labour Party that allowed the pro-Hamas,

1785
01:02:59,910 --> 01:03:02,670
pro-Palestine hate marches on the streets of

1786
01:03:02,670 --> 01:03:05,290
our major cities with no pushback at all

1787
01:03:05,290 --> 01:03:05,930
from the police.

1788
01:03:06,070 --> 01:03:08,650
It was the Labour Party that mainstreamed two

1789
01:03:08,650 --> 01:03:12,270
-tier policies in our police forces, encouraging them

1790
01:03:12,270 --> 01:03:15,250
to prioritise some minorities over others.

1791
01:03:15,330 --> 01:03:17,670
And it was the Labour Party that simultaneously

1792
01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:20,870
berated millions of people in this country for

1793
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:23,550
being racist, for being far-right, when they

1794
01:03:23,550 --> 01:03:25,910
highlighted to some of the problems that we

1795
01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:28,950
can now see very clearly in cities like

1796
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:29,370
Birmingham.

1797
01:03:29,370 --> 01:03:32,030
Keir Starmer and the Labour government are now

1798
01:03:32,030 --> 01:03:35,350
only just beginning to see the downstream effects

1799
01:03:35,350 --> 01:03:37,950
of the policies they have been promoting for

1800
01:03:37,950 --> 01:03:39,510
much of the last 30 years.

1801
01:03:39,830 --> 01:03:41,190
It's a national disgrace.

1802
01:03:41,710 --> 01:03:44,030
Jews should be able to go wherever they

1803
01:03:44,030 --> 01:03:44,750
want in Britain.

1804
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:47,610
There should be no no-go zones for

1805
01:03:47,610 --> 01:03:48,950
Jews in this country.

1806
01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:50,430
It's absolutely shameful.

1807
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:53,630
Yeah, well, it is what it is, Britain.

1808
01:03:56,810 --> 01:03:57,910
No-go zone.

1809
01:03:58,250 --> 01:03:59,950
Yeah, no-go zone for Jews.

1810
01:03:59,990 --> 01:04:00,810
No Jews here!

1811
01:04:04,110 --> 01:04:05,290
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1812
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,000
Which brings us to that hate note we

1813
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:09,360
got.

1814
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:10,720
Which one?

1815
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,300
There's a couple of them.

1816
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:13,340
The good ones.

1817
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:14,440
Yeah, some good ones.

1818
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:15,080
What was the one?

1819
01:04:15,460 --> 01:04:17,380
I mean, here's what I get.

1820
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,760
John blocked me, so I'm going to email

1821
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,540
you, Adam, and tell you how much I

1822
01:04:21,540 --> 01:04:22,240
hate John.

1823
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,640
I get that all the time.

1824
01:04:25,220 --> 01:04:27,220
Yes, no, I know you blocked this guy.

1825
01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:28,520
I know you blocked him.

1826
01:04:28,580 --> 01:04:30,120
Oh, I may have blocked him, but it's

1827
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,360
not because of anything he said.

1828
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,040
Well, I block a few people.

1829
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,080
There's just nuisances.

1830
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:38,260
I block a nuisance.

1831
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,140
Well, I mean, I'll read it to you.

1832
01:04:41,940 --> 01:04:43,980
Well, this email was blocked as well.

1833
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,640
Looks like I've made it on the John's

1834
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:47,160
block list.

1835
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:48,380
There should be an award for that.

1836
01:04:48,540 --> 01:04:49,960
There should be a judge.

1837
01:04:50,380 --> 01:04:52,960
Hey, maybe for a donation of 500 bucks,

1838
01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:54,020
you can be on the block list.

1839
01:04:55,380 --> 01:04:57,500
I could use another email address, but it

1840
01:04:57,500 --> 01:04:59,640
seems clear that John would rather not deal

1841
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,700
with constructive criticism, hence his go-to choice

1842
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:04,780
of a red herring or straw man fallacious

1843
01:05:04,780 --> 01:05:08,020
argument in response to constructive criticism, rather than

1844
01:05:08,020 --> 01:05:11,240
dealing slash growing slash improving regarding an issue

1845
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:12,020
when he's wrong.

1846
01:05:12,540 --> 01:05:15,620
And this was the guy about the warrant

1847
01:05:15,620 --> 01:05:16,620
versus weren't.

1848
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,360
That's the guy.

1849
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,100
I mean, I don't know why you blocked

1850
01:05:22,100 --> 01:05:23,060
him, because you did.

1851
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:23,720
I don't remember.

1852
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:25,400
You know, I may have blocked him after

1853
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,300
that last one.

1854
01:05:26,300 --> 01:05:27,360
It's just one.

1855
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:28,820
It's the same note.

1856
01:05:28,900 --> 01:05:30,920
He sends it over and over and over

1857
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:32,000
and over and over.

1858
01:05:32,420 --> 01:05:33,000
And I did.

1859
01:05:33,140 --> 01:05:35,000
I don't like getting into a dialogue with

1860
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,060
people that keep repeating themselves and they keep

1861
01:05:38,060 --> 01:05:40,360
belaboring the point that I say, OK, fine,

1862
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,520
you're right about it.

1863
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,580
Dramatically, but I didn't think it was funny.

1864
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,180
This guy wrote about saying I shouldn't have

1865
01:05:46,180 --> 01:05:50,180
said when I wrote the script for Cronkite

1866
01:05:50,180 --> 01:05:53,660
saying if I wasn't dead, I'd like this

1867
01:05:53,660 --> 01:05:54,080
show.

1868
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,400
And he says, no, it should be if

1869
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,840
I were weren't dead.

1870
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,200
And I said that it's not going to

1871
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:02,300
be.

1872
01:06:02,420 --> 01:06:03,620
It's just not funny.

1873
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,140
As funny as saying wasn't.

1874
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,100
And he said, well, that may be true.

1875
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,340
But it's bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.

1876
01:06:08,380 --> 01:06:09,500
And the back and forth and back and

1877
01:06:09,500 --> 01:06:11,100
forth and back and forth blocked.

1878
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,420
Why don't you just ignore the emails?

1879
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:14,540
Just ignore them.

1880
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,500
You don't have to answer everything.

1881
01:06:16,940 --> 01:06:19,180
But when you block someone, it's an aggressive

1882
01:06:19,180 --> 01:06:20,240
move.

1883
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,260
And in today's day and age, it's seen

1884
01:06:23,260 --> 01:06:25,660
as, you know what, from now on, I'm

1885
01:06:25,660 --> 01:06:28,280
going to there's another mechanism that this system

1886
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:29,580
uses called a black hole.

1887
01:06:29,900 --> 01:06:31,060
Put him in the black hole.

1888
01:06:33,180 --> 01:06:34,580
And I just put him in the black

1889
01:06:34,580 --> 01:06:34,720
hole.

1890
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,040
OK, I can already predict the emails I'm

1891
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:37,240
getting.

1892
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,960
Well, looks like I got put in John's

1893
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:40,900
black hole.

1894
01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:42,820
So I'm going to email you about how

1895
01:06:42,820 --> 01:06:44,260
mad I am at him.

1896
01:06:45,020 --> 01:06:45,980
It's amazing.

1897
01:06:47,740 --> 01:06:49,740
Although I did get a good one today.

1898
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:51,760
I got a fun one.

1899
01:06:52,020 --> 01:06:53,620
There was a there was a letter that

1900
01:06:53,620 --> 01:06:54,180
it was better.

1901
01:06:54,300 --> 01:06:56,020
The one that would bitch about us not

1902
01:06:56,020 --> 01:06:57,840
liking Tucker's commentary.

1903
01:06:58,060 --> 01:06:58,420
Well, no.

1904
01:06:58,620 --> 01:06:59,240
OK, yes.

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01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,120
But I predicted that would happen.

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01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:01,940
I'm right.

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01:07:02,020 --> 01:07:03,420
And I sent you a note back saying

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01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:04,560
you were dead on on this.

1909
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,560
But that note is worth reading.

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01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:07,740
If I could find it.

1911
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:08,820
Yeah, I can find it.

1912
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,560
It's what happened to you guys?

1913
01:07:12,500 --> 01:07:13,400
That's the one.

1914
01:07:14,620 --> 01:07:17,320
When it always starts off, you would get

1915
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,720
these notes from people that what happened?

1916
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,960
So just to reiterate, you brought in kind

1917
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,240
of rather oldish clips from Tucker with Sam

1918
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:26,660
Altman.

1919
01:07:27,140 --> 01:07:30,800
And we were literally deconstructing the reason for

1920
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,860
this, what he was doing, what it was

1921
01:07:32,860 --> 01:07:33,300
about.

1922
01:07:33,700 --> 01:07:36,280
And I think our deconstruction was pretty spot

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01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:36,600
on.

1924
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,700
It's like this was you know, this is

1925
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:39,300
what you do.

1926
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:40,300
You need inventory.

1927
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,420
You got to create stuff.

1928
01:07:41,500 --> 01:07:42,100
You got a name.

1929
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:42,920
You got Altman.

1930
01:07:43,420 --> 01:07:47,080
You talked about his language being actionable.

1931
01:07:47,820 --> 01:07:49,380
What else was there to say?

1932
01:07:49,380 --> 01:07:52,180
Well, apparently we did it all wrong.

1933
01:07:52,940 --> 01:07:55,680
I tried listening to the latest episode today,

1934
01:07:55,780 --> 01:07:57,120
but couldn't even finish it.

1935
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,420
Not a Tucker Carlson fan in particular.

1936
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:04,660
Barely even watch his show.

1937
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,200
But what you call media deconstruction right now

1938
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,320
is just shitting on someone's character because of

1939
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:12,960
emotional disdain.

1940
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:15,240
What's the emotional?

1941
01:08:15,340 --> 01:08:16,960
What emotional disdain?

1942
01:08:17,660 --> 01:08:20,279
I don't know of any emotional disdain that

1943
01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:21,120
we have.

1944
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:22,939
Emotional disdain towards Tucker?

1945
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,819
I don't think so.

1946
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,020
There was literally nothing of substance you two

1947
01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:30,819
had to say about that Altman interview except

1948
01:08:30,819 --> 01:08:32,240
shitting on Tucker.

1949
01:08:32,819 --> 01:08:34,680
Oh, he's accusing him.

1950
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,540
He just wants views.

1951
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:39,380
I remember you two doing the same thing

1952
01:08:39,380 --> 01:08:41,439
when commenting on the interview he did with

1953
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:42,140
Ted Cruz.

1954
01:08:42,460 --> 01:08:43,760
Zero substance.

1955
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,080
100% disdain.

1956
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,520
It's like you two have Tucker derangement syndrome

1957
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:50,399
or something.

1958
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,700
What I like about it is he starts

1959
01:08:54,700 --> 01:08:57,500
it off by using the concept that I

1960
01:08:57,500 --> 01:08:58,620
never listened to Tucker.

1961
01:08:58,740 --> 01:08:59,620
I'm not a big fan.

1962
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:02,260
Yet all he's doing is defending Tucker.

1963
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,979
The letter may have come from Tucker.

1964
01:09:08,660 --> 01:09:11,000
But this is what's puzzling to me because

1965
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,439
as I said, because I said, hey, you're

1966
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,100
going to do anything about a podcast.

1967
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:18,700
We're going to get hate mail because it's

1968
01:09:18,700 --> 01:09:20,760
like shooting inside the tent, man.

1969
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,920
And I think we literally did media deconstruction.

1970
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,160
You said, hey, it's media.

1971
01:09:25,660 --> 01:09:27,380
And so he says, if you want to

1972
01:09:27,380 --> 01:09:29,939
do actual media deconstruction, how about you go

1973
01:09:29,939 --> 01:09:31,520
over his talking points?

1974
01:09:31,859 --> 01:09:33,920
Maybe try to debunk them or see what

1975
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:34,859
his sources are.

1976
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:36,380
What is that?

1977
01:09:36,700 --> 01:09:38,000
That sounds like journalism.

1978
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:39,600
We don't do that.

1979
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,340
But we literally talked about every single talking

1980
01:09:43,340 --> 01:09:44,760
point Tucker had.

1981
01:09:45,500 --> 01:09:48,060
That would be actually interesting to listen to.

1982
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,840
He says that would actually be interested to

1983
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:50,240
listen to.

1984
01:09:50,340 --> 01:09:51,060
But I won't pick.

1985
01:09:52,300 --> 01:09:55,660
Instead, you two bicker about his ads.

1986
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:56,960
No, we didn't.

1987
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,220
We just say that's what it's about.

1988
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,420
If this is the level you two have

1989
01:10:02,420 --> 01:10:04,360
sunk to, it's no wonder he makes better

1990
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,160
quality content than you.

1991
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,780
In fact, it would be hard not to.

1992
01:10:08,780 --> 01:10:11,000
You two are in desperate need of a

1993
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:11,880
reality check.

1994
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,940
I already stopped my donation some time ago

1995
01:10:16,940 --> 01:10:19,500
exactly because of the behavior and bizarre out

1996
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:21,120
of touch takes like that.

1997
01:10:21,460 --> 01:10:23,160
Please get your act together.

1998
01:10:23,460 --> 01:10:25,460
So some of us with common sense and

1999
01:10:25,460 --> 01:10:29,380
above average emotional intelligence can actually enjoy the

2000
01:10:29,380 --> 01:10:30,040
show again.

2001
01:10:30,500 --> 01:10:32,400
I think he wants second half of show

2002
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:32,680
back.

2003
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:33,640
I think that's what he's saying.

2004
01:10:33,860 --> 01:10:36,220
Yeah, more flying saucer stuff.

2005
01:10:36,860 --> 01:10:39,480
It would be widely appreciated because I have

2006
01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:41,500
fond memories of what no agenda used to

2007
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:41,760
be.

2008
01:10:42,020 --> 01:10:43,300
And if I didn't think you had it

2009
01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:45,380
in you, I wouldn't be writing this message.

2010
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,480
We have gone through this so many times.

2011
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,420
Whenever we have a different take on something,

2012
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:54,300
which isn't the the the narrative of the

2013
01:10:54,300 --> 01:10:58,120
podcast, then we get these kinds of notes.

2014
01:10:58,800 --> 01:10:59,920
And it's OK.

2015
01:11:00,180 --> 01:11:00,740
And you know what?

2016
01:11:00,740 --> 01:11:01,820
You don't have to donate.

2017
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,520
You know, it's like it's fine.

2018
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,380
I doubt if he ever donated.

2019
01:11:06,620 --> 01:11:07,880
But I think he did.

2020
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,900
I've been around long enough to know people

2021
01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:13,360
that say, well, I said you canceled my

2022
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:14,100
subscription.

2023
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,440
I've unsubscribed from your podcast.

2024
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:22,020
I did like this one that came in.

2025
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:24,980
Dear Adam, two things.

2026
01:11:25,140 --> 01:11:28,560
One, I cannot stop singing the secretary general

2027
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,520
song to myself.

2028
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,440
It is by far the same problem.

2029
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:34,200
Wait, she says it is by far the

2030
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,200
most powerful jingle ever used on the shore

2031
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,960
on the show, even more than Dvorak dot

2032
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,120
org slash N.A. So she likes the

2033
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,780
show, likes the jingle.

2034
01:11:45,020 --> 01:11:46,780
And by the way, the whole point of

2035
01:11:46,780 --> 01:11:49,700
a jingle is to be an earworm so

2036
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:51,060
that it sticks in your head.

2037
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:53,920
And if you're singing our jingles, that's success

2038
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:54,440
to me.

2039
01:11:55,400 --> 01:12:00,580
Two, I, I, I firmly believe that John

2040
01:12:00,580 --> 01:12:03,240
and his family are hoodwinking you with this.

2041
01:12:03,300 --> 01:12:06,040
Be nice to John stuff either.

2042
01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:07,520
Either they.

2043
01:12:07,860 --> 01:12:08,720
This is good.

2044
01:12:09,060 --> 01:12:12,720
Either they are creating multiple email addresses or

2045
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,540
whatever, or otherwise planting seeds.

2046
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,980
I like John very much, but he's very

2047
01:12:17,980 --> 01:12:19,240
mean to you.

2048
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,280
And she has some examples.

2049
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,060
If you come up with a joke, he

2050
01:12:23,060 --> 01:12:25,380
jabs you and says, where did you get

2051
01:12:25,380 --> 01:12:25,960
that from?

2052
01:12:26,060 --> 01:12:27,120
You didn't write it.

2053
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,140
Even on the last episode, you mentioned knowing

2054
01:12:30,140 --> 01:12:32,280
where the triangle in San Francisco is.

2055
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:34,240
And he said, you must have looked it

2056
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:34,600
up.

2057
01:12:35,300 --> 01:12:36,380
That's some serious.

2058
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:37,940
I didn't do that.

2059
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:38,520
Yes, you did.

2060
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:40,600
Well, you must have looked it up.

2061
01:12:40,660 --> 01:12:40,820
Yes.

2062
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,100
Oh, you say that all the time.

2063
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,160
You looked it up.

2064
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,460
That's some serious treating you like a beta

2065
01:12:46,460 --> 01:12:46,940
male.

2066
01:12:46,940 --> 01:12:51,320
Meanwhile, John does the, John does those long

2067
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:52,560
periods of silence.

2068
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,480
Instead of commenting on your clips, he just

2069
01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:57,180
tells you to play his clips.

2070
01:12:57,740 --> 01:12:59,020
Also, you put.

2071
01:13:00,140 --> 01:13:02,500
Did you write, Tina wrote this.

2072
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,660
Also, you put so much work into making

2073
01:13:07,660 --> 01:13:09,980
the show sound professional and he talks while

2074
01:13:09,980 --> 01:13:12,360
you play the jingles, blows his nose, turns

2075
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,620
his headphones up, which you don't wear, which

2076
01:13:14,620 --> 01:13:17,460
is probably him being professionally contrarian, but he's

2077
01:13:17,460 --> 01:13:18,400
gone off the rails.

2078
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:19,660
And it just seems mean.

2079
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,900
Yes, there have been times, especially back in

2080
01:13:21,900 --> 01:13:24,040
the weed days when you are too touchy.

2081
01:13:24,860 --> 01:13:26,940
But overall, there's not an issue with the

2082
01:13:26,940 --> 01:13:28,620
way you treat John, in my opinion, is

2083
01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:29,960
an issue in the way he treats you.

2084
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,020
Well, there you go.

2085
01:13:32,140 --> 01:13:37,100
So I'm being victim blames that I agree.

2086
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:37,900
I agree.

2087
01:13:38,020 --> 01:13:40,760
She's spot on spot on with that.

2088
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:42,520
All right, people, you know what to do.

2089
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,460
Oh, man, that's great.

2090
01:13:49,380 --> 01:13:51,760
And if anything, these notes keep it going

2091
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:52,220
for me.

2092
01:13:52,700 --> 01:13:54,320
I did get one other note about the,

2093
01:13:54,440 --> 01:13:56,360
you know, the video versus audio.

2094
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,340
Oh, we still get I got a I

2095
01:13:59,340 --> 01:14:01,980
got a I ended up chatting with Brunetti

2096
01:14:01,980 --> 01:14:02,760
about this.

2097
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,240
Well, I'm more interested in that.

2098
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:06,040
What did he say?

2099
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,540
Oh, you know, it was the same lecture

2100
01:14:08,540 --> 01:14:10,200
that we get about, oh, you know, the

2101
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,760
reason you want to do he said and

2102
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,700
he was just coming from a meeting with

2103
01:14:15,700 --> 01:14:16,620
some guy at a bar.

2104
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,660
So I'm wondering how it would kind of

2105
01:14:18,660 --> 01:14:20,620
I was he was he was lucid.

2106
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:21,820
He was plastered.

2107
01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:23,380
Yeah, well, maybe.

2108
01:14:23,700 --> 01:14:26,140
But he did say that, you know, you

2109
01:14:26,140 --> 01:14:27,660
can get to you get to the audience

2110
01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:28,020
bill.

2111
01:14:28,060 --> 01:14:29,020
It's about the audience.

2112
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,620
You get the audience because you get these

2113
01:14:30,620 --> 01:14:32,920
mini clips and the clips get out there

2114
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:33,880
on the YouTubes.

2115
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,400
And you did two guys.

2116
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,160
He says, I know it's he he kind

2117
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,000
of like the idea.

2118
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,520
But at the same time, he couldn't sell

2119
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:42,040
it to me.

2120
01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:44,460
No, of course he can't, because he wants

2121
01:14:44,460 --> 01:14:46,520
people to watch his movies that he doesn't

2122
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,260
want them to be watching clips of his

2123
01:14:48,260 --> 01:14:48,660
movies.

2124
01:14:48,660 --> 01:14:50,140
So like, well, I saw the clips.

2125
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:51,820
That's what happened to South Park.

2126
01:14:52,700 --> 01:14:54,320
No, I saw you didn't watch.

2127
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,380
You didn't even watch South Park when Trump

2128
01:14:56,380 --> 01:14:58,100
was sleeping with the devil.

2129
01:14:58,560 --> 01:14:59,700
I saw enough clips.

2130
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:00,800
I don't need to watch it.

2131
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:01,400
That's right.

2132
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:02,440
It's true.

2133
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:03,380
The clips.

2134
01:15:03,380 --> 01:15:03,860
Yeah.

2135
01:15:04,100 --> 01:15:05,900
In fact, most of the Joe Rogan stuff

2136
01:15:05,900 --> 01:15:07,000
is now just clips.

2137
01:15:07,860 --> 01:15:08,300
Absolutely.

2138
01:15:08,620 --> 01:15:13,300
Megyn Kelly, the Joe Rogan meme, where Joe

2139
01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:15,700
Rogan says, hey, go to that video.

2140
01:15:15,820 --> 01:15:17,200
This is the best thing I've seen forever.

2141
01:15:17,260 --> 01:15:18,760
And then they say random video.

2142
01:15:18,940 --> 01:15:19,160
Yeah.

2143
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,960
It's not even from the show.

2144
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,800
I do want to point out that if

2145
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,160
you go to being it.io, which is

2146
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:30,600
powered by Clip Genie, you can specifically make

2147
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:31,000
a clip.

2148
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,020
You can highlight the text in the transcript

2149
01:15:34,020 --> 01:15:37,240
and make a shareable clip right on the

2150
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:37,560
spot.

2151
01:15:37,900 --> 01:15:39,160
So it's not true.

2152
01:15:39,820 --> 01:15:40,940
It's just not true.

2153
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,180
You can do this, do this.

2154
01:15:43,860 --> 01:15:46,540
But this producer was saying, you know, you

2155
01:15:46,540 --> 01:15:48,640
don't know about the learning pyramid.

2156
01:15:49,900 --> 01:15:51,340
The cone of learning.

2157
01:15:51,780 --> 01:15:52,560
Did I see this?

2158
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:53,620
Was I CC'd on this?

2159
01:15:53,620 --> 01:15:54,500
Yeah, I think I CC'd you on it.

2160
01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:56,060
Because I remember something about the.

2161
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:56,980
It was hard.

2162
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:58,560
I could not get through what he.

2163
01:15:58,780 --> 01:15:59,100
I did.

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01:15:59,220 --> 01:16:00,300
I think I sent a note back.

2165
01:16:00,300 --> 01:16:02,160
Maybe you're right.

2166
01:16:02,300 --> 01:16:03,980
If I could ever figure out what you

2167
01:16:03,980 --> 01:16:04,360
said.

2168
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:05,920
Well, I think what he was saying is

2169
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,540
that the learning cone or the learning pyramid

2170
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,180
basically works like this.

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01:16:13,340 --> 01:16:17,660
80% retention, practice by doing hands-on

2172
01:16:17,660 --> 01:16:20,660
activity, 70% by discussion with others, 50

2173
01:16:20,660 --> 01:16:23,680
% by demonstration, watching someone else do it,

2174
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:29,160
30% watching videos, 20% reading, and

2175
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,080
the lowest 10% is by listening.

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01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:36,520
And my point was, we are actually doing

2177
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,220
something at the top of the learning pyramid.

2178
01:16:39,340 --> 01:16:42,940
We are teaching people to listen because there's

2179
01:16:42,940 --> 01:16:43,580
no video.

2180
01:16:44,140 --> 01:16:47,200
As you explained on the last show, because

2181
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,460
there's no video, you are forced to listen

2182
01:16:50,460 --> 01:16:52,340
and you hear a lot more.

2183
01:16:53,180 --> 01:16:55,000
You hear, we hear stuff that we didn't

2184
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,880
hear even while we were clipping it.

2185
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:57,600
Yeah.

2186
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,120
Sometimes the third time, I've more than once,

2187
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,260
I have clipped something.

2188
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:03,180
I go, this is good.

2189
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,120
I clip it and then I produce it

2190
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:05,980
to put on the show.

2191
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:07,600
Then when I hear it on the show

2192
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,080
for the third time, maybe the fourth, I

2193
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:12,380
pick up something new.

2194
01:17:12,700 --> 01:17:12,820
Yeah.

2195
01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:14,500
Happens all the time.

2196
01:17:14,700 --> 01:17:15,140
Exactly.

2197
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:18,480
So.

2198
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:18,740
Yeah.

2199
01:17:18,740 --> 01:17:22,520
You're not distracted by Newsome wiggling his shoulders

2200
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,200
around and doing some jerk-off moves where

2201
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:27,920
it looks like he's jacking off two horses.

2202
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,080
That kind of thing.

2203
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:29,760
Wow.

2204
01:17:31,460 --> 01:17:31,980
Okay.

2205
01:17:32,220 --> 01:17:33,280
I didn't see that one coming.

2206
01:17:34,220 --> 01:17:35,260
Two horses.

2207
01:17:37,900 --> 01:17:40,760
So there's been some updates on the Gen

2208
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,380
Z revolutions that I want to get into

2209
01:17:43,380 --> 01:17:46,020
because we have a lot of Gen Zers

2210
01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:47,100
in the audience.

2211
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,620
I'm very proud to have these.

2212
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,360
They are the good Zeds.

2213
01:17:51,820 --> 01:17:52,780
They are the winners.

2214
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,840
They are the future generation of winners.

2215
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,120
But I was astounded.

2216
01:17:59,220 --> 01:18:02,700
There's a game show called The Floor.

2217
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:04,680
Are you familiar with this game show?

2218
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:04,780
Yeah.

2219
01:18:04,780 --> 01:18:05,880
I'm very familiar with it.

2220
01:18:06,440 --> 01:18:07,840
You're familiar with it?

2221
01:18:08,180 --> 01:18:08,600
Yeah.

2222
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:09,740
I've seen it a couple of times.

2223
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:10,740
What is it on?

2224
01:18:10,980 --> 01:18:12,140
Where does it air?

2225
01:18:12,180 --> 01:18:14,720
I believe it's either on Fox.

2226
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,420
I think it's on Fox, but it could

2227
01:18:16,420 --> 01:18:17,920
be on ABC, but I think it's Fox.

2228
01:18:17,980 --> 01:18:18,700
Let me see.

2229
01:18:18,860 --> 01:18:19,160
Yes.

2230
01:18:19,260 --> 01:18:19,640
Fox.

2231
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:20,960
Rob Lowe?

2232
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:21,620
He hosts it?

2233
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:22,060
Rob Lowe?

2234
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:22,400
Yep.

2235
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:23,520
Rob Lowe hosts it.

2236
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,020
Funny enough, it's an original Dutch game show.

2237
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:28,940
How about that?

2238
01:18:29,460 --> 01:18:30,500
That makes sense.

2239
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,320
The premise of the show never made any

2240
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:34,840
sense to me.

2241
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:35,460
I watched it.

2242
01:18:36,500 --> 01:18:38,620
It's very spectacular to watch.

2243
01:18:38,780 --> 01:18:40,360
What is the premise of the game show?

2244
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:41,780
It's a trivia show, isn't it?

2245
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:42,320
Yeah.

2246
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:43,240
They ask you these questions.

2247
01:18:43,380 --> 01:18:45,660
Then you have to get a line on

2248
01:18:45,660 --> 01:18:47,620
the floor and the floor lights up.

2249
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:53,820
It's one of these highly produced game shows.

2250
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:56,120
It's an Endemol show is what it is.

2251
01:18:56,260 --> 01:18:56,900
It sounds like it.

2252
01:18:57,020 --> 01:18:57,380
Endemol.

2253
01:18:58,580 --> 01:18:59,460
John the Mole.

2254
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:00,740
The guy who does all those things.

2255
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:01,280
Big Brother.

2256
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,420
All that stuff is from him.

2257
01:19:03,420 --> 01:19:07,100
Well, whatever it is, it's visually stimulating.

2258
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:07,440
Okay.

2259
01:19:07,580 --> 01:19:08,540
Visually stimulating.

2260
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,940
So they have a contest as part of

2261
01:19:12,940 --> 01:19:13,040
it.

2262
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:13,860
I've not watched it.

2263
01:19:14,020 --> 01:19:15,680
I'm going to have to watch this show

2264
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:16,040
now.

2265
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,200
You're not going to like it.

2266
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:22,180
Well, so I was sent this clip.

2267
01:19:22,340 --> 01:19:23,660
I could not for the life of me

2268
01:19:23,660 --> 01:19:24,540
find the original.

2269
01:19:24,780 --> 01:19:27,200
This is recorded from TV.

2270
01:19:27,540 --> 01:19:29,420
So I fixed the sound somewhat.

2271
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:30,320
You'll get the idea.

2272
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:32,080
It's not all that bad in this case.

2273
01:19:32,980 --> 01:19:35,780
And so there's two contestants, one on the

2274
01:19:35,780 --> 01:19:36,540
left, one on the right.

2275
01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:39,980
And on the screen, they flash up clocks.

2276
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,860
Like a church tower clock.

2277
01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:47,600
Then there's a digital clock showing 19.30

2278
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,800
instead of 7.30. And literally, the object

2279
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,400
of the game between these two human beings,

2280
01:19:54,580 --> 01:19:57,960
adult human beings, is to tell me what

2281
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,520
time it is by reading the clock.

2282
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,620
10.10. 12.

2283
01:20:04,980 --> 01:20:05,420
12 o'clock.

2284
01:20:06,180 --> 01:20:06,740
Wait, what?

2285
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:07,380
5.

2286
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:07,920
5 o'clock.

2287
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:16,440
11.30. That is 2.55, or 1

2288
01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:20,940
.55. 2.55. 2.50?

2289
01:20:21,540 --> 01:20:25,420
1.50. 9 o'clock.

2290
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,400
That is 5.

2291
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:34,100
That's 5.10. So in what world would

2292
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:36,840
you ever expect to live where there would

2293
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,840
be a game show where adult human beings

2294
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,440
were tested on their ability to read clock?

2295
01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:46,340
That's unbelievable.

2296
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,420
And then they also had the 24-hour

2297
01:20:48,420 --> 01:20:51,260
clock digital, which would confuse most people.

2298
01:20:51,300 --> 01:20:51,960
And that was tough, yes, because it said

2299
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,740
19.30. 7.30. 7.30. Got it.

2300
01:20:55,740 --> 01:20:57,700
7.30. I mean, huh?

2301
01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:58,560
Huh?

2302
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,480
That is, to me, maybe I'm just an

2303
01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:03,340
old fuddy-duddy.

2304
01:21:03,740 --> 01:21:04,240
You are.

2305
01:21:04,540 --> 01:21:06,480
But that really surprised me.

2306
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:09,260
It surprised me.

2307
01:21:09,260 --> 01:21:10,960
It's ludicrous.

2308
01:21:11,260 --> 01:21:13,960
Now, are you familiar with the 6-7?

2309
01:21:15,260 --> 01:21:15,940
The what?

2310
01:21:16,140 --> 01:21:17,100
6-7, baby.

2311
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:19,140
6-7?

2312
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,720
You're not familiar with 6-7, 67, 6

2313
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:22,040
-7?

2314
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,320
You don't know about the 6-7?

2315
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:24,560
You got kids there?

2316
01:21:24,780 --> 01:21:25,360
They're not talking.

2317
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,140
They don't laugh at you when you say

2318
01:21:27,140 --> 01:21:27,440
6.

2319
01:21:27,500 --> 01:21:27,980
They say 7.

2320
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,400
6-7, 6-7, no?

2321
01:21:30,020 --> 01:21:31,540
If I say 6, they say 7?

2322
01:21:31,700 --> 01:21:32,280
6-7.

2323
01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:32,860
5.

2324
01:21:33,260 --> 01:21:33,700
6.

2325
01:21:34,140 --> 01:21:34,880
5-6.

2326
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:36,080
So we are back.

2327
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,860
We're back with something you're probably very familiar

2328
01:21:38,860 --> 01:21:41,780
with, probably also very confused about, if you

2329
01:21:41,780 --> 01:21:43,920
spend any time around a teenager or even

2330
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,300
a tween as well.

2331
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:46,420
I'm not even going to do the hand

2332
01:21:46,420 --> 01:21:46,680
gesture.

2333
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:47,020
I'll do it.

2334
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:48,340
Because it's so cringe.

2335
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:50,580
We're talking about 6-7, the slang that

2336
01:21:50,580 --> 01:21:52,660
kids just cannot stop saying, but now some

2337
01:21:52,660 --> 01:21:55,140
teachers and schools are saying they've had enough.

2338
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,280
Yeah, NBC's Savannah Sellers is here with more.

2339
01:21:57,480 --> 01:21:58,980
Hey, Savannah, 6-7.

2340
01:21:59,220 --> 01:22:01,140
6-7, you've got the tone down and

2341
01:22:01,140 --> 01:22:01,480
everything.

2342
01:22:01,580 --> 01:22:02,000
Good morning.

2343
01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:03,480
You got to do the hand motion with

2344
01:22:03,480 --> 01:22:03,600
it.

2345
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,980
So this first went viral last year.

2346
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:06,800
Here's the thing, though.

2347
01:22:06,860 --> 01:22:09,260
It really means nothing at all, but unlike

2348
01:22:09,260 --> 01:22:11,940
most internet trends, this one seems to be

2349
01:22:11,940 --> 01:22:14,640
sticking around, prompting some teachers to set some

2350
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:15,640
new rules in the classroom.

2351
01:22:16,140 --> 01:22:16,860
6-7.

2352
01:22:17,060 --> 01:22:19,440
And so I've been waiting for a report

2353
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:21,860
like this because I've been seeing this go

2354
01:22:21,860 --> 01:22:23,220
on for a while and it was just,

2355
01:22:23,340 --> 01:22:24,280
there never was any reason.

2356
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:25,140
Where have you been seeing it?

2357
01:22:25,180 --> 01:22:26,600
I have never seen this anywhere.

2358
01:22:26,860 --> 01:22:29,540
Well, I actually look at TikTok once in

2359
01:22:29,540 --> 01:22:31,440
a while, like the real TikTok, not the

2360
01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:34,880
filtered down, libtard, nut jobs that you watch,

2361
01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:37,080
but actually what's happening, what's on the streets?

2362
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,100
See, that's an example of him being mean

2363
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:39,440
to me.

2364
01:22:40,140 --> 01:22:42,120
Ladies and gentlemen, you just heard it right

2365
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:42,460
there.

2366
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:44,880
Yes, I'm sorry.

2367
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:45,840
I apologize.

2368
01:22:47,940 --> 01:22:49,780
Is that okay if I apologize?

2369
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:51,960
No, I don't care if you apologize or

2370
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:52,140
not.

2371
01:22:52,180 --> 01:22:53,400
I just want to point it out that

2372
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,820
this woman, when Tina wrote that fake letter

2373
01:22:56,820 --> 01:22:57,500
in...

2374
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,500
Tina's actually always on your side, to be

2375
01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:02,120
honest about it.

2376
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,220
She's like, you know, you should be a

2377
01:23:03,220 --> 01:23:04,070
little nicer to John.

2378
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:06,980
She's actually a Christian.

2379
01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:09,740
No, because then she says, because, you know,

2380
01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:11,180
he's old and we got to be nice

2381
01:23:11,180 --> 01:23:11,820
to our elders.

2382
01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:14,740
There it is again, ladies and gentlemen, you

2383
01:23:14,740 --> 01:23:15,320
just heard it.

2384
01:23:17,620 --> 01:23:18,380
6-7.

2385
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,000
I mean, kids can't get enough of and

2386
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:22,980
teachers can't get away from.

2387
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,060
We are not saying the word 6-7

2388
01:23:25,060 --> 01:23:25,680
anymore.

2389
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,900
If you do, you have to write a

2390
01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:29,320
67 word essay.

2391
01:23:29,660 --> 01:23:32,280
Some schools even banning the phrase in classrooms.

2392
01:23:32,620 --> 01:23:34,480
You are no longer allowed to say, what

2393
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:35,580
number do you think I'm going to say?

2394
01:23:35,660 --> 01:23:36,780
6-7.

2395
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,640
Caitlin Soriano is a seventh grade math teacher.

2396
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,420
How much are you hearing and seeing 6

2397
01:23:43,420 --> 01:23:45,240
-7 in your classroom?

2398
01:23:46,260 --> 01:23:47,980
All day, every day.

2399
01:23:48,340 --> 01:23:51,600
It is nonstop throughout my class, the hallways,

2400
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:52,760
the cafeterias.

2401
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,020
She says she banned the term last year

2402
01:23:55,020 --> 01:23:56,960
after it became distracting for students.

2403
01:23:57,340 --> 01:23:59,020
But now this has been going on for

2404
01:23:59,020 --> 01:23:59,760
more than a year.

2405
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:00,860
It has been going on for a while.

2406
01:24:00,940 --> 01:24:03,300
I think for since 2024.

2407
01:24:03,820 --> 01:24:04,720
Yeah, we're leaning in.

2408
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,280
We hope that if it is embarrassing enough

2409
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:08,860
for the adults to be doing it, that

2410
01:24:08,860 --> 01:24:10,100
maybe they stop.

2411
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,360
The trend took off a few months ago,

2412
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,880
but has reintensified with school back in session,

2413
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,400
thought to originate from a rap song by

2414
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:17,740
Skrilla.

2415
01:24:17,940 --> 01:24:20,940
But the experts we spoke to say the

2416
01:24:20,940 --> 01:24:22,740
numbers really don't mean anything.

2417
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:27,380
It's like slang to like, make parents be

2418
01:24:27,380 --> 01:24:28,940
like, what does that mean?

2419
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:30,100
Yeah, baby.

2420
01:24:30,220 --> 01:24:32,220
It's just the latest example of slang through

2421
01:24:32,220 --> 01:24:32,880
the years.

2422
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,400
Eat my shorts.

2423
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,540
From the hippie generation, where things were groovy

2424
01:24:39,540 --> 01:24:42,340
and far out, to the 90s, where everyone

2425
01:24:42,340 --> 01:24:43,900
was asking, why's that?

2426
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,240
If you're wondering what the skibbity is going

2427
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,520
on, and how all this brain rot is

2428
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,740
getting to us, you're not in Delulu.

2429
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:53,620
It's already Ohio.

2430
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,020
But the kids, they just want us to

2431
01:24:56,020 --> 01:24:56,580
let them cook.

2432
01:24:57,180 --> 01:24:59,220
As for parents, they're feeling the pain too.

2433
01:24:59,460 --> 01:25:02,460
According to a recent study, 35% say

2434
01:25:02,460 --> 01:25:05,640
they struggle to understand their kids' slang vocabulary.

2435
01:25:06,060 --> 01:25:09,280
And 56% say their kids feel cringe

2436
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,520
when they try and use slang to communicate.

2437
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,640
Do you think that your mom and your

2438
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,320
dad or your teachers are getting a little

2439
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:18,220
annoyed of it?

2440
01:25:18,220 --> 01:25:18,960
Yes.

2441
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,360
Is that going to stop you?

2442
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:22,360
No.

2443
01:25:23,620 --> 01:25:25,500
And that's really the point.

2444
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,040
And there's an outro clip to this.

2445
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,920
But so the thing with this is it's

2446
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,940
being done specifically to annoy your parents.

2447
01:25:36,380 --> 01:25:39,360
And that's different from any other slang that

2448
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:40,640
I can remember.

2449
01:25:41,620 --> 01:25:43,640
I mean, we had all kinds of terms.

2450
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,380
And okay, well, the chat room is going

2451
01:25:47,380 --> 01:25:48,980
to have to chime in on this.

2452
01:25:49,420 --> 01:25:51,540
Because I'm trying to think, the point you're

2453
01:25:51,540 --> 01:25:54,280
making here is that, is this a new

2454
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,120
phenomenon just to find a way to annoy

2455
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:57,620
parents?

2456
01:25:57,780 --> 01:26:00,320
I mean, kids have always annoyed parents in

2457
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,300
all kinds of different ways by not doing

2458
01:26:02,300 --> 01:26:02,860
stuff.

2459
01:26:03,660 --> 01:26:05,120
You know, you didn't do this, you didn't

2460
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,180
do that, which annoys parents.

2461
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,000
But this is a disrespectful annoyance.

2462
01:26:12,190 --> 01:26:13,530
You heard those two young kids.

2463
01:26:13,530 --> 01:26:14,450
This is why I want to hear from

2464
01:26:14,450 --> 01:26:15,190
the chat room.

2465
01:26:15,370 --> 01:26:16,150
You mean the troll room?

2466
01:26:16,270 --> 01:26:16,530
Yes.

2467
01:26:18,350 --> 01:26:19,490
Well, what do you want to hear?

2468
01:26:20,110 --> 01:26:22,810
I want to hear why.

2469
01:26:23,810 --> 01:26:25,890
Why, how, has this ever happened before?

2470
01:26:25,970 --> 01:26:26,810
Is there any other examples?

2471
01:26:26,810 --> 01:26:28,790
No, I don't think, just think about your

2472
01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:30,210
own, my own youth, your youth.

2473
01:26:30,210 --> 01:26:30,910
That's what I'm trying to think.

2474
01:26:30,950 --> 01:26:32,070
I can't come up with anything.

2475
01:26:32,230 --> 01:26:34,930
That's why I'm asking the troll room to

2476
01:26:34,930 --> 01:26:35,490
help.

2477
01:26:35,930 --> 01:26:38,790
We never had anything that we purposely used

2478
01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:40,250
to annoy our parents.

2479
01:26:40,250 --> 01:26:43,030
And parents, if I see, I don't believe

2480
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:43,670
that's true.

2481
01:26:44,070 --> 01:26:46,450
If you said something to annoy your parents,

2482
01:26:46,630 --> 01:26:48,850
your mom would whoop you upside the head.

2483
01:26:49,250 --> 01:26:49,790
Shut up.

2484
01:26:50,950 --> 01:26:51,810
That's my point.

2485
01:26:51,890 --> 01:26:53,670
It's more the parents who should say, who

2486
01:26:53,670 --> 01:26:55,890
shouldn't be, I don't understand what you're causing.

2487
01:26:56,050 --> 01:26:57,250
Stop annoying me.

2488
01:26:57,630 --> 01:26:58,510
Get out of my house.

2489
01:26:58,770 --> 01:26:59,470
Here's a hundred bucks.

2490
01:26:59,590 --> 01:27:00,330
Run away from home.

2491
01:27:00,490 --> 01:27:01,210
That's what I got.

2492
01:27:02,090 --> 01:27:03,130
Here's a hundred dollars.

2493
01:27:03,230 --> 01:27:04,310
You can run away from home, but you

2494
01:27:04,310 --> 01:27:05,130
can't come back.

2495
01:27:05,890 --> 01:27:06,890
Is that what happened?

2496
01:27:07,170 --> 01:27:08,630
Yeah, my mom actually did that.

2497
01:27:08,630 --> 01:27:10,390
I'm running away from home, having a little

2498
01:27:10,390 --> 01:27:10,730
knapsack.

2499
01:27:11,070 --> 01:27:12,330
Okay, well, here's a hundred dollars.

2500
01:27:12,990 --> 01:27:13,810
I had a knapsack.

2501
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:14,030
Yeah.

2502
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:16,450
I, I, you know, I saw, I saw

2503
01:27:16,450 --> 01:27:18,170
the drawing, knapsack on a stick over your

2504
01:27:18,170 --> 01:27:18,510
shoulder.

2505
01:27:18,770 --> 01:27:20,450
You brought this up before that you ran

2506
01:27:20,450 --> 01:27:21,090
away from home.

2507
01:27:21,210 --> 01:27:21,430
Yeah.

2508
01:27:21,530 --> 01:27:22,930
And then my mom gave me a hundred

2509
01:27:22,930 --> 01:27:24,590
bucks and I walked down the street under

2510
01:27:24,590 --> 01:27:25,050
the tree.

2511
01:27:25,130 --> 01:27:26,030
I'm like, this sucks.

2512
01:27:26,210 --> 01:27:26,870
I'm going back.

2513
01:27:26,990 --> 01:27:28,590
This hundred dollars is not going to do

2514
01:27:28,590 --> 01:27:29,150
it for me.

2515
01:27:30,630 --> 01:27:30,950
But.

2516
01:27:31,090 --> 01:27:32,410
You should have gone back and said, I

2517
01:27:32,410 --> 01:27:33,050
spent a hundred.

2518
01:27:33,610 --> 01:27:34,110
So the.

2519
01:27:36,130 --> 01:27:38,350
So, I mean, we've had lots of terms,

2520
01:27:38,530 --> 01:27:41,430
lots of slang, but this is, it's appears

2521
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:44,890
specifically to mess with your teacher, mess with

2522
01:27:44,890 --> 01:27:45,590
your parents.

2523
01:27:45,870 --> 01:27:48,170
And I think parents, parents, they need to

2524
01:27:48,170 --> 01:27:49,250
stop this.

2525
01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:52,270
Like, hey, stop annoying me.

2526
01:27:52,330 --> 01:27:53,690
I didn't even know this was going on.

2527
01:27:53,710 --> 01:27:55,730
So I have no thoughts on it, but

2528
01:27:55,730 --> 01:27:56,770
I'll think about it.

2529
01:27:56,810 --> 01:27:59,270
Well, here, here's the NBC Today show.

2530
01:27:59,270 --> 01:28:00,690
I guess the troll room has come up

2531
01:28:00,690 --> 01:28:01,030
with nothing.

2532
01:28:01,030 --> 01:28:01,910
No, they got nothing.

2533
01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:03,150
They got nothing.

2534
01:28:05,490 --> 01:28:07,970
Here's the NBC Today show with all the

2535
01:28:07,970 --> 01:28:09,930
slang they can think of from back in

2536
01:28:09,930 --> 01:28:11,950
the day, but it's completely irrelevant to what

2537
01:28:11,950 --> 01:28:14,310
this trend really is, which is to annoy

2538
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:15,030
your parents.

2539
01:28:15,170 --> 01:28:17,210
And I think parents should just stop, stop

2540
01:28:17,210 --> 01:28:18,290
the children to stop it.

2541
01:28:18,490 --> 01:28:20,630
Maybe the kids aren't getting enough attention.

2542
01:28:20,810 --> 01:28:21,510
Well, there you go.

2543
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:23,290
And by the way, it's not 67, of

2544
01:28:23,290 --> 01:28:25,030
course, but this is 41.

2545
01:28:25,310 --> 01:28:25,930
Do you know what that means?

2546
01:28:26,030 --> 01:28:26,770
What does that mean?

2547
01:28:26,790 --> 01:28:28,330
That one I've heard it started with the

2548
01:28:28,330 --> 01:28:29,790
Rizzler and doesn't also make sense.

2549
01:28:29,850 --> 01:28:30,450
Maybe, you know.

2550
01:28:30,490 --> 01:28:31,850
No, but you're exactly right.

2551
01:28:31,850 --> 01:28:35,050
It is an adjective used to describe excess.

2552
01:28:35,250 --> 01:28:35,830
I have an idea.

2553
01:28:35,990 --> 01:28:38,470
What if we call 67 when adults kill

2554
01:28:38,470 --> 01:28:39,250
a fun trend?

2555
01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:43,830
We just 67'd this trend.

2556
01:28:44,330 --> 01:28:45,030
Thank you so much.

2557
01:28:45,050 --> 01:28:45,970
Okay, 86.

2558
01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:46,830
That's 86.

2559
01:28:47,150 --> 01:28:47,250
I love that.

2560
01:28:47,250 --> 01:28:47,610
86.

2561
01:28:48,010 --> 01:28:49,230
We 86'd 67.

2562
01:28:49,410 --> 01:28:51,290
67 is the new 86.

2563
01:28:51,770 --> 01:28:53,370
Dylan's been trying to bring that back.

2564
01:28:53,370 --> 01:28:55,130
Oh, God, these people are insufferable.

2565
01:28:55,230 --> 01:28:57,330
And Calvin says he's heard kids say it

2566
01:28:57,330 --> 01:28:57,910
in school.

2567
01:28:58,110 --> 01:29:00,450
You remember like Rusty called me over yesterday

2568
01:29:00,450 --> 01:29:01,330
and he's like, Mom, can I have a

2569
01:29:01,330 --> 01:29:01,570
kiss?

2570
01:29:01,570 --> 01:29:02,790
And I go like all the way over

2571
01:29:02,790 --> 01:29:03,270
to give him a kiss.

2572
01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:06,130
And he's like, well done.

2573
01:29:06,330 --> 01:29:07,890
That's a good education he's getting.

2574
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:08,270
Yeah.

2575
01:29:08,330 --> 01:29:10,350
So, you know, for what that's worth, let's

2576
01:29:10,350 --> 01:29:11,210
bring that one back.

2577
01:29:11,350 --> 01:29:13,030
Another one you slap your kid for.

2578
01:29:13,110 --> 01:29:13,790
Don't do that.

2579
01:29:15,130 --> 01:29:16,450
73 is the new number.

2580
01:29:17,150 --> 01:29:17,870
Seven threes.

2581
01:29:19,550 --> 01:29:20,230
I don't know.

2582
01:29:20,850 --> 01:29:23,410
Something about this, the way it bothers me.

2583
01:29:23,470 --> 01:29:24,090
I don't know why.

2584
01:29:24,170 --> 01:29:24,790
I don't have any kids.

2585
01:29:24,850 --> 01:29:26,730
I need a grandkid to boss around.

2586
01:29:26,830 --> 01:29:27,530
That's what I need.

2587
01:29:29,980 --> 01:29:30,820
That would help me.

2588
01:29:33,700 --> 01:29:33,960
What?

2589
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,740
Well, I like six threes.

2590
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:37,920
Six threes.

2591
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:39,260
The rubble is your donation.

2592
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,260
And we are working on a challenge going.

2593
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:43,660
So just to let you know.

2594
01:29:44,060 --> 01:29:44,480
All right.

2595
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:46,920
So let's let's look at what Gen Z

2596
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,080
is doing around the world.

2597
01:29:48,220 --> 01:29:49,720
Let's see how things are going in Peru.

2598
01:29:50,140 --> 01:29:53,260
This vigil in Lima in Peru is for

2599
01:29:53,260 --> 01:29:56,120
a 32 year old demonstrator killed on Wednesday

2600
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,880
during anti-government Gen Z protests.

2601
01:29:59,300 --> 01:30:01,000
People gathered at the site where he died.

2602
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,060
A police officer was detained in relation to

2603
01:30:04,060 --> 01:30:04,540
the shooting.

2604
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:06,660
They are killing us during the protests.

2605
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,380
They are taking away our rights and leaving

2606
01:30:09,380 --> 01:30:11,180
us at the mercy of extortionists.

2607
01:30:11,460 --> 01:30:12,460
They are killing us.

2608
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:13,640
So we have to protest.

2609
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,720
We demand not only that these mafias stop

2610
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,540
destroying our country, but also that they stop

2611
01:30:19,540 --> 01:30:21,740
justifying their criminal actions.

2612
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,640
The government on Friday suspended the Lima police

2613
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:25,820
chief over the protests.

2614
01:30:26,340 --> 01:30:28,900
Anger centers on corruption and worsening crime.

2615
01:30:28,900 --> 01:30:31,800
Tension persists despite the removal of the deeply

2616
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,640
unpopular President Dina Baloate earlier this month and

2617
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,280
her replacement with Congress Speaker Jose Heri.

2618
01:30:38,440 --> 01:30:41,620
This is really quite a good regime change

2619
01:30:41,620 --> 01:30:45,140
method to just get some Gen Zers into

2620
01:30:45,140 --> 01:30:47,300
the discord, get them on the streets, and

2621
01:30:47,300 --> 01:30:50,080
then have mayhem take place and blame it

2622
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:50,860
on Gen Z.

2623
01:30:51,540 --> 01:30:53,960
So they already got rid of the president.

2624
01:30:54,180 --> 01:30:56,280
And so they brought in a replacement guy.

2625
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,000
Uh, then we have Madagascar.

2626
01:30:59,220 --> 01:31:01,520
The U.N. Secretary General António Guterres has

2627
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,000
issued a strong condemnation of the recent unconstitutional

2628
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,340
change of government in Madagascar.

2629
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,020
He's now calling for an immediate restoration of

2630
01:31:09,020 --> 01:31:11,340
constitutional order and respect for the rule of

2631
01:31:11,340 --> 01:31:12,040
law in the country.

2632
01:31:12,620 --> 01:31:14,820
In a statement delivered by U.N. Spokesperson

2633
01:31:14,820 --> 01:31:18,840
Stefan Dujarric, Guterres expresses backing of the African

2634
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,220
Union's decision to suspend Madagascar from all activities

2635
01:31:22,220 --> 01:31:22,920
within the bloc.

2636
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,500
The Secretary General condemns the unconstitutional change of

2637
01:31:27,500 --> 01:31:29,780
government power in Madagascar and calls for the

2638
01:31:29,780 --> 01:31:32,920
return to constitutional order and the rule of

2639
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:33,240
law.

2640
01:31:33,500 --> 01:31:35,620
I think it's amazing that some Gen Z

2641
01:31:35,620 --> 01:31:38,980
protests are turning out this way and no

2642
01:31:38,980 --> 01:31:40,060
one is seeing this.

2643
01:31:40,260 --> 01:31:42,080
They're not seeing what's actually happening.

2644
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,340
This is regime change.

2645
01:31:43,660 --> 01:31:44,380
Could be us.

2646
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:45,540
Could be the French.

2647
01:31:45,980 --> 01:31:46,800
Could be the French.

2648
01:31:47,220 --> 01:31:49,380
Could be the Nordic nexus.

2649
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:50,520
The Nordic nexus.

2650
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:51,800
It could be.

2651
01:31:52,660 --> 01:31:54,580
The question is, who is it?

2652
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:55,360
I don't know.

2653
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:56,700
But it's not happening here.

2654
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:58,060
No, it's happening.

2655
01:31:58,620 --> 01:31:59,780
So that's a clue.

2656
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:00,700
That's a clue.

2657
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,280
And it's happening again after a brief pause

2658
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:04,940
in Morocco.

2659
01:32:05,480 --> 01:32:08,660
After almost 10 days, young Moroccans resumed their

2660
01:32:08,660 --> 01:32:10,800
protests in front of parliament on Saturday.

2661
01:32:11,060 --> 01:32:14,300
They're demanding government reform, education and health care

2662
01:32:14,300 --> 01:32:17,200
while tackling corruption and a cost of living

2663
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:18,040
crisis.

2664
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,960
This protest was organized to unify our ranks

2665
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,380
and coordinate our demonstrations and sends a message

2666
01:32:23,380 --> 01:32:24,140
to the authorities.

2667
01:32:24,740 --> 01:32:26,280
Even though we paused for more than 10

2668
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,820
days, we're continuing and will continue until our

2669
01:32:28,820 --> 01:32:30,920
demands are met, not just in words but

2670
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:31,520
in reality.

2671
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,100
We want to see solutions that satisfy us

2672
01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:36,360
and make us feel that our daily sacrifices

2673
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:37,280
are worthwhile.

2674
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,420
It was the first demonstration since King Mohammed

2675
01:32:40,420 --> 01:32:44,160
VI addressed parliament 10 days ago following weeks

2676
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:44,780
of unrest.

2677
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,200
But he didn't mention the Gen Z movement

2678
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,100
directly and his call for job creation for

2679
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:52,580
young people and improving health care and education

2680
01:32:52,580 --> 01:32:55,520
left many of the protesters unconvinced.

2681
01:32:55,940 --> 01:32:58,760
Whether this movement will...

2682
01:32:58,760 --> 01:32:59,720
Listen to this kid.

2683
01:33:00,100 --> 01:33:02,020
So this is a Moroccan Gen Z'er

2684
01:33:02,020 --> 01:33:04,760
who sounds like he's been on American Discord

2685
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,300
for several years.

2686
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:10,640
Whether this movement will bear its fruits, I

2687
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,080
think it's very soon to tell.

2688
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:17,560
There will still be, you know, political changes

2689
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,000
that will come in the upcoming days.

2690
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,580
And up until then, we cannot really predict

2691
01:33:23,580 --> 01:33:25,660
what's going to happen because, you know, in

2692
01:33:25,660 --> 01:33:27,920
politics, there are lots of variables that enter

2693
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:29,680
in the equation and a lot of things

2694
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:30,420
can change.

2695
01:33:30,820 --> 01:33:31,920
Whoa, whoa.

2696
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,160
He just went into straight up Yang talk.

2697
01:33:35,540 --> 01:33:37,320
Between two days, like, you know.

2698
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,560
So I think that it's too soon to

2699
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:40,340
tell, to tell.

2700
01:33:40,340 --> 01:33:43,780
But obviously, the youth are hopeful.

2701
01:33:44,420 --> 01:33:47,220
Young people taking part in Saturday's protests say

2702
01:33:47,220 --> 01:33:49,840
the movement has not lost momentum during the

2703
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,680
break, despite some reports to the contrary.

2704
01:33:53,260 --> 01:33:54,240
I don't know, man.

2705
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,500
There is something afoot here with the Gen

2706
01:33:56,500 --> 01:33:57,520
Z protests.

2707
01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:59,380
Yeah, it's definitely something.

2708
01:33:59,860 --> 01:34:02,720
And it's a scheme because it's just not

2709
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,000
one place.

2710
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:05,660
And it's always, it's the same model.

2711
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,240
And it's being dumped here and there because

2712
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:09,340
it's a model that works.

2713
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:09,720
Yes.

2714
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,420
That means there's something behind it.

2715
01:34:13,260 --> 01:34:15,820
So it's either the CIA or one of

2716
01:34:15,820 --> 01:34:19,760
our intel people, agencies or military intelligence, who

2717
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:20,020
knows?

2718
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,220
I think it could be us, but it

2719
01:34:22,220 --> 01:34:26,100
could be the international communist conspiracy.

2720
01:34:26,420 --> 01:34:27,600
It could be a lot of different things.

2721
01:34:27,620 --> 01:34:29,040
We have to figure out who it is.

2722
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,520
Well, we have boots on the ground everywhere.

2723
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:32,960
So I'd love to see if we can

2724
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,200
get a little bit more on this.

2725
01:34:36,140 --> 01:34:37,220
Yeah, it should be.

2726
01:34:37,220 --> 01:34:39,360
We should be able to figure out who

2727
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:39,960
it is.

2728
01:34:40,180 --> 01:34:40,280
Yeah.

2729
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:41,260
And why?

2730
01:34:41,820 --> 01:34:43,900
Well, some of it's against BRICS.

2731
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:44,860
We know that.

2732
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:48,440
That's what, wasn't Peru about BRICS?

2733
01:34:48,860 --> 01:34:49,080
No.

2734
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:50,920
Yeah, I thought Peru.

2735
01:34:51,020 --> 01:34:52,920
Peru is the outlier, it seems to me.

2736
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,360
I don't see how Peru fits into it

2737
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:56,800
at all.

2738
01:34:59,000 --> 01:34:59,300
Well.

2739
01:34:59,960 --> 01:35:02,620
Although maybe, look at the robot.

2740
01:35:02,900 --> 01:35:04,300
Nah, screw the robot.

2741
01:35:06,220 --> 01:35:11,280
BPC, BRICS Policy Center receives delegation from Peru.

2742
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:16,220
There's a lot of Peru in BRICS in

2743
01:35:16,220 --> 01:35:16,800
the news.

2744
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:18,460
How about Madagascar?

2745
01:35:18,620 --> 01:35:19,160
Let's see.

2746
01:35:20,340 --> 01:35:20,860
Madagascar.

2747
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:21,880
Because that would be us.

2748
01:35:22,020 --> 01:35:23,060
I mean, if- That would be us.

2749
01:35:23,140 --> 01:35:23,880
Yeah, let me see.

2750
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:25,200
Madagascar.

2751
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:26,780
And the fact that we can do this

2752
01:35:26,780 --> 01:35:29,300
this well, it's a good sign.

2753
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,440
Yeah, let me see.

2754
01:35:33,180 --> 01:35:33,700
Madagascar.

2755
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,740
Well, I don't really see anything about Madagascar

2756
01:35:36,740 --> 01:35:37,320
in BRICS.

2757
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,200
But it's all Africa, you know, so it's

2758
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:43,260
- Do we have interest in Africa?

2759
01:35:44,660 --> 01:35:46,340
We're trying to take over the place.

2760
01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:47,280
Well, then that's us.

2761
01:35:47,300 --> 01:35:48,900
And move the Chinese out so we can

2762
01:35:48,900 --> 01:35:49,700
get those minerals.

2763
01:35:50,620 --> 01:35:52,700
Well- We need rare earths.

2764
01:35:54,220 --> 01:35:57,700
Our technology, because the little magnets, those little

2765
01:35:57,700 --> 01:36:01,020
super powerful little magnets require rare earth elements.

2766
01:36:01,140 --> 01:36:03,120
A couple of them in particular.

2767
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,700
And we need them.

2768
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,260
We never needed them before, but we need

2769
01:36:08,260 --> 01:36:09,080
them now big time.

2770
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:10,940
All right.

2771
01:36:11,740 --> 01:36:13,200
What else you got, John?

2772
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:14,840
I'm sure you have some interesting stuff for

2773
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:14,940
us.

2774
01:36:14,940 --> 01:36:17,180
I got a little religious breakdown here, because

2775
01:36:17,180 --> 01:36:18,220
we like to talk about that.

2776
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:19,780
This is part of- I did one

2777
01:36:19,780 --> 01:36:20,480
for the last show.

2778
01:36:20,580 --> 01:36:22,100
We've never played it, but this is different.

2779
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,680
This is about, although we can also go

2780
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:31,740
light and talk about Taylor Swift and her

2781
01:36:31,740 --> 01:36:32,500
marketing.

2782
01:36:33,980 --> 01:36:40,220
Let's do NPR religion first, then we'll go

2783
01:36:40,220 --> 01:36:41,420
light with Taylor Swift.

2784
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:43,200
And Taylor Swift better be good.

2785
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,080
One or the other before the break, it

2786
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:45,700
seems to me.

2787
01:36:45,780 --> 01:36:47,660
We got plenty of time before the break.

2788
01:36:47,740 --> 01:36:48,300
We can do both.

2789
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,120
Let's go sociology of religion.

2790
01:36:50,300 --> 01:36:52,360
This is a sociologist.

2791
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,060
And I thought this was interesting because of

2792
01:36:55,060 --> 01:36:59,300
the rationale for what's going on.

2793
01:36:59,300 --> 01:37:01,600
He thinks that religion is- This is

2794
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,240
different than the last report, which we never

2795
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:03,600
played.

2796
01:37:04,300 --> 01:37:07,680
This guy says religion is becoming obsolete.

2797
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:09,360
Oh, okay.

2798
01:37:09,780 --> 01:37:12,660
University of Notre Dame sociology professor Christian Smith

2799
01:37:12,660 --> 01:37:15,560
has spent his career studying religion in the

2800
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,540
U.S. He has a new book titled

2801
01:37:17,540 --> 01:37:21,140
Why Religion Went Obsolete, The Demise of Traditional

2802
01:37:21,140 --> 01:37:22,340
Faith in America.

2803
01:37:22,980 --> 01:37:26,260
Smith says that word, obsolete, doesn't necessarily mean

2804
01:37:26,260 --> 01:37:28,600
religion is useless or lost.

2805
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,440
It's more about how religion is viewed across

2806
01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:32,160
generations.

2807
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,280
By obsolete, I mean to focus more on

2808
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,980
the cultural realm, the cultural status of religion,

2809
01:37:38,260 --> 01:37:41,000
not just how many people go to church

2810
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:44,920
or pray, but traditional religion's role in the

2811
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:45,800
larger culture.

2812
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,260
And so the idea is just what we

2813
01:37:49,260 --> 01:37:50,160
mean by obsolete.

2814
01:37:50,420 --> 01:37:55,080
Traditional religion has just, for most people, been

2815
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,900
replaced or supplanted by other things that have

2816
01:37:57,900 --> 01:37:58,520
come along.

2817
01:37:58,900 --> 01:38:01,040
The image I use in the book is

2818
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,460
what PCs and laptops did to electric typewriters.

2819
01:38:05,340 --> 01:38:07,860
People can still use obsolete things.

2820
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,340
I have college students that use electric typewriters,

2821
01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:11,400
and I have CDs.

2822
01:38:12,220 --> 01:38:13,840
But it's not that it's extinct.

2823
01:38:14,420 --> 01:38:16,080
And it's not that the obsolete thing is

2824
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:17,500
worse than what replaced it.

2825
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:18,980
A lot of times the obsolete thing is

2826
01:38:18,980 --> 01:38:19,280
better.

2827
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,380
But just it's not as much referred to

2828
01:38:22,380 --> 01:38:24,940
or practiced or easy to pull off than

2829
01:38:24,940 --> 01:38:27,560
the thing that people are most into at

2830
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:28,360
any given time.

2831
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:29,900
Oh, interesting.

2832
01:38:30,140 --> 01:38:34,740
Well, I take a little bit of, I

2833
01:38:34,740 --> 01:38:36,280
think there's a lot of, when you say

2834
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:40,120
religion, I mean, that to me doesn't mean

2835
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:40,840
Christianity.

2836
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:42,320
That can be Islam.

2837
01:38:42,620 --> 01:38:43,640
That can be Buddhism.

2838
01:38:43,700 --> 01:38:47,120
That can be all kinds of religion.

2839
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,780
And I would say that's what he would

2840
01:38:49,780 --> 01:38:50,440
agree with that.

2841
01:38:50,620 --> 01:38:52,420
OK, so and I would agree when he

2842
01:38:52,420 --> 01:38:55,720
talks about Christianity, he's really more or less

2843
01:38:55,720 --> 01:39:01,040
referring to the established sects, the churches, the

2844
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,760
Methodists versus the Presbyterians versus the.

2845
01:39:03,980 --> 01:39:06,200
Well, again, that to me is is.

2846
01:39:06,260 --> 01:39:08,680
But that's what he's all in on everything

2847
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:09,220
you say.

2848
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,580
OK, but what my point was going to

2849
01:39:11,580 --> 01:39:15,180
be that we religion has only gotten more

2850
01:39:15,180 --> 01:39:20,400
intense with climatism, scientism.

2851
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,100
Yeah, well, he's got that covered, too.

2852
01:39:22,220 --> 01:39:23,520
OK, so let's get to the crux of

2853
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:23,720
the matter.

2854
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:26,300
Why are people turning away from traditional religion?

2855
01:39:26,380 --> 01:39:26,880
What did you find?

2856
01:39:27,900 --> 01:39:30,500
Yeah, so my argument is that the causes

2857
01:39:30,500 --> 01:39:33,300
of this are not recent, that they're complex.

2858
01:39:33,660 --> 01:39:34,340
There are many.

2859
01:39:34,660 --> 01:39:36,860
I use the image of a converging of

2860
01:39:36,860 --> 01:39:37,780
perfect storms.

2861
01:39:38,420 --> 01:39:42,260
There's a lot of technological factors, economic factors.

2862
01:39:42,260 --> 01:39:45,460
And so, you know, religion has a smaller

2863
01:39:45,460 --> 01:39:47,980
pool of a market, so to speak, to

2864
01:39:47,980 --> 01:39:48,900
draw people from.

2865
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:50,740
So it's not a matter of, for the

2866
01:39:50,740 --> 01:39:53,320
most part, sort of an atheist or scientific

2867
01:39:53,780 --> 01:39:55,240
rationalist rejection of religion.

2868
01:39:55,540 --> 01:39:58,580
It's just a sort of a doesn't fit,

2869
01:39:58,700 --> 01:39:59,440
doesn't work.

2870
01:39:59,620 --> 01:40:00,300
I don't need it.

2871
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:02,860
Well, you say that 1991 was a crucial

2872
01:40:02,860 --> 01:40:03,340
turning point.

2873
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:04,540
Why is that year so crucial?

2874
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,500
For starters, that was the year when the

2875
01:40:07,500 --> 01:40:09,980
number of Americans in national surveys who said

2876
01:40:09,980 --> 01:40:11,760
they were not religious started to rise.

2877
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,720
Prior to then, every survey, about six or

2878
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,320
seven percent of Americans said they were not

2879
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:16,620
religious.

2880
01:40:17,140 --> 01:40:19,720
1991 was the first uptick, and it's been

2881
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:21,660
growing ever since for three decades.

2882
01:40:22,620 --> 01:40:24,200
The end of the Cold War happened in

2883
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:27,620
1991, and that was really consequential for America's

2884
01:40:27,620 --> 01:40:29,780
self-image in the world, its mission and

2885
01:40:29,780 --> 01:40:30,520
place in the world.

2886
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:32,880
We used to be, during the Cold War,

2887
01:40:32,980 --> 01:40:35,160
even if people weren't religious as a nation,

2888
01:40:35,260 --> 01:40:37,360
we conceived of ourselves as the God-fearing

2889
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:41,800
religious liberty nation fighting against atheist commonness.

2890
01:40:42,700 --> 01:40:44,040
And after the end of the Cold War,

2891
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,300
that evaporated, and it wasn't clear who we

2892
01:40:47,300 --> 01:40:50,080
were, what our place in the world was.

2893
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,500
And the economy was changing, and so the

2894
01:40:52,500 --> 01:40:54,500
American dream was starting to become less and

2895
01:40:54,500 --> 01:40:55,340
less available.

2896
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:57,080
Okay.

2897
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:58,480
Well, that's just some stats.

2898
01:40:58,640 --> 01:40:58,840
Okay.

2899
01:40:58,980 --> 01:40:59,980
That's probably true.

2900
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:02,880
Well, then he comes up with a laundry

2901
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,120
list of changes that have taken place, and

2902
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,320
there's kind of an Ask Adam here.

2903
01:41:07,500 --> 01:41:08,940
What's the one he leaves out?

2904
01:41:08,940 --> 01:41:11,140
You'll see if you can spot it, but

2905
01:41:11,140 --> 01:41:13,780
when he talks about the 90s starting in

2906
01:41:13,780 --> 01:41:17,780
91, we started to enter the Clinton era

2907
01:41:17,780 --> 01:41:21,100
in 92, and it got full blown.

2908
01:41:21,500 --> 01:41:23,720
This was the most prosperous period of time

2909
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:25,380
I've ever experienced in my life.

2910
01:41:25,540 --> 01:41:28,120
In fact, didn't the religion in those early

2911
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:30,820
90s, wasn't that greed is good?

2912
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:32,000
Wasn't that Wall Street?

2913
01:41:32,220 --> 01:41:34,140
Wasn't that the religion?

2914
01:41:35,340 --> 01:41:37,400
Well, I don't know if that was the

2915
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,460
religion per se, but I do know that

2916
01:41:39,460 --> 01:41:41,600
there was a lot of money flying, and

2917
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,360
the American dream was doing quite well for

2918
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,120
itself, so I think he's wrong about that.

2919
01:41:47,580 --> 01:41:49,820
But then he goes through this laundry list

2920
01:41:49,820 --> 01:41:52,380
of the changes, and there are these moments

2921
01:41:53,140 --> 01:41:55,240
in time, 91 is a good time to

2922
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:55,960
put it.

2923
01:41:56,020 --> 01:41:59,900
You could say 92, 90, that period of

2924
01:41:59,900 --> 01:42:02,020
time, it was a big change that took

2925
01:42:02,020 --> 01:42:02,400
place.

2926
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,420
But then he goes through the little laundry

2927
01:42:04,420 --> 01:42:06,800
list here, and then he leaves one out.

2928
01:42:07,140 --> 01:42:09,980
There was a growing sort of dissatisfaction with

2929
01:42:09,980 --> 01:42:13,360
the standard American way of life and declining

2930
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:14,580
trust in political leaders.

2931
01:42:15,060 --> 01:42:17,900
Lots of other cultural things happened in 1991.

2932
01:42:18,340 --> 01:42:21,300
James Hunter published this book, Culture Wars, putting

2933
01:42:21,300 --> 01:42:23,560
a name on the polarization that's happened ever

2934
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:24,020
since.

2935
01:42:25,300 --> 01:42:26,340
Music changed.

2936
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,420
The era of 1980s big hair bands was

2937
01:42:29,420 --> 01:42:33,020
liquidated by grunge and other movements.

2938
01:42:33,480 --> 01:42:35,960
It's not that everything changed in 1991, but

2939
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,100
that that was a pivot year, and over

2940
01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:42,000
the next two decades, all of these profound

2941
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,600
changes in culture sort of worked their way

2942
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:44,900
out.

2943
01:42:45,480 --> 01:42:47,840
You mean Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton?

2944
01:42:49,620 --> 01:42:51,540
What did he leave out of that list?

2945
01:42:51,540 --> 01:42:53,220
It's a little list, but it's not long,

2946
01:42:53,380 --> 01:42:56,240
but he never, in his whole presentation, that's

2947
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:57,500
the last clip I have, he goes on

2948
01:42:57,500 --> 01:42:59,420
about some other stuff here that's quite interesting.

2949
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:00,700
It's a very good piece.

2950
01:43:01,780 --> 01:43:02,500
The internet.

2951
01:43:03,340 --> 01:43:04,320
Oh, of course.

2952
01:43:04,860 --> 01:43:06,100
He never mentions the internet.

2953
01:43:06,260 --> 01:43:09,040
91 isn't when the browser came out, but

2954
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:10,980
91, we were talking about the internet a

2955
01:43:10,980 --> 01:43:12,700
lot, because there was one gopher, and your

2956
01:43:12,700 --> 01:43:15,100
buddy gopher, and all these other things were

2957
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:16,680
out there, and people were talking about the

2958
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,080
internet.

2959
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,900
Everyone, we all had internet email addresses, you

2960
01:43:21,900 --> 01:43:25,700
got them one way or another, and the

2961
01:43:25,700 --> 01:43:29,680
internet is what really happened in 1991, and

2962
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,740
it just exploded with the web, which was

2963
01:43:32,740 --> 01:43:35,320
the, you know, there was that period between

2964
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,820
91 and 93 where people kept, if you

2965
01:43:37,820 --> 01:43:40,940
remember, and you do, that period of time

2966
01:43:40,940 --> 01:43:42,880
where people said, oh, oh, that web is

2967
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:43,740
not the internet.

2968
01:43:44,060 --> 01:43:45,060
That's the web.

2969
01:43:45,060 --> 01:43:47,640
The internet is this, and the web is

2970
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:47,780
that.

2971
01:43:47,860 --> 01:43:50,140
They really had to differentiate between the internet

2972
01:43:50,140 --> 01:43:50,760
and the web.

2973
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,100
And everybody made a big fuss about that

2974
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:59,520
differentiation, and that differentiation disappeared completely.

2975
01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:03,460
No one has used that comment.

2976
01:44:03,540 --> 01:44:05,440
Oh, but in fact, no one even unknows

2977
01:44:05,440 --> 01:44:06,900
what the web is anymore.

2978
01:44:07,420 --> 01:44:10,020
Just open your browser.

2979
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:10,660
What?

2980
01:44:12,260 --> 01:44:13,420
It's Safari.

2981
01:44:13,420 --> 01:44:15,720
Oh, okay, now I have DuckDuckGo.

2982
01:44:16,380 --> 01:44:20,980
So I would say that the internet became

2983
01:44:20,980 --> 01:44:21,640
the religion.

2984
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:26,100
It never mentions that once, and it goes

2985
01:44:26,100 --> 01:44:27,560
on and on, and he talks about this

2986
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:30,260
third thing that took place, which is spiritualism,

2987
01:44:30,620 --> 01:44:32,720
which is kind of not religion, but it's

2988
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,820
like everyone still has to have a spiritual

2989
01:44:34,820 --> 01:44:36,760
angle, and it brings in all kinds of

2990
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:37,220
problems.

2991
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:40,200
I've actually seen, that's a good point.

2992
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:43,220
I've actually seen surveys that show that more

2993
01:44:43,220 --> 01:44:45,340
and more Americans are saying they are, quote,

2994
01:44:45,500 --> 01:44:50,300
spiritual, and I certainly think that the American

2995
01:44:50,300 --> 01:44:52,860
church is definitely breaking apart.

2996
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,880
We're seeing huge splits in churches, certainly with

2997
01:44:56,880 --> 01:45:02,140
the traditional, you know, like Methodist, Protestant, you

2998
01:45:02,140 --> 01:45:02,240
know.

2999
01:45:02,340 --> 01:45:05,040
Well, he goes on, I could have clipped

3000
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:06,600
his 10 clips from this presentation.

3001
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:07,500
I'm sure you could have, yeah.

3002
01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:10,820
He goes on about exactly what you say,

3003
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:12,740
and he says that the problem with these

3004
01:45:12,740 --> 01:45:15,700
churches is they have not fundamentally, that's why

3005
01:45:15,700 --> 01:45:18,100
I think it's interesting that your church has

3006
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:20,260
a number of little factoids that it pulls

3007
01:45:20,260 --> 01:45:23,940
off that I think, which will create a

3008
01:45:23,940 --> 01:45:27,280
revivalism, I think, which is the socialization thing.

3009
01:45:27,500 --> 01:45:27,940
Yes.

3010
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:30,460
Which is a lot of churches become social,

3011
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:32,380
and I came up with this thinking about

3012
01:45:32,380 --> 01:45:34,560
this because I did a hit on Chanel's

3013
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:35,300
show on Friday.

3014
01:45:35,460 --> 01:45:36,560
Oh, I missed it.

3015
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,100
A hit, a Chanel hit.

3016
01:45:39,060 --> 01:45:42,740
And she was, this discussion was about this

3017
01:45:42,740 --> 01:45:45,660
country and western guy who's a left winger,

3018
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:47,900
and how about country and western is, you

3019
01:45:47,900 --> 01:45:49,320
know, they're trying to move in on it.

3020
01:45:49,860 --> 01:45:52,260
But she said, she made the comment that

3021
01:45:52,260 --> 01:45:55,300
there was a large, the country and western

3022
01:45:55,300 --> 01:45:58,620
music is the largest genre that is growing

3023
01:45:58,620 --> 01:46:01,060
the fastest, and asked me if I had

3024
01:46:01,060 --> 01:46:02,860
any idea of why this might be.

3025
01:46:02,860 --> 01:46:05,640
And I said, maybe it's because country and

3026
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,220
western at least has to do with relationships

3027
01:46:08,220 --> 01:46:13,000
and, you know, boys and girls, and the

3028
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:15,140
idea that you can, you know, there's love

3029
01:46:15,140 --> 01:46:17,720
songs within the country and western genre as

3030
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:21,680
opposed to shooting somebody or bitching about immigration

3031
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:25,060
status in a song, and so you end

3032
01:46:25,060 --> 01:46:27,000
up with this kind of, the need for

3033
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:27,720
socialization.

3034
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,120
I think the churches that do well are

3035
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:32,340
the ones that are pushing that part of

3036
01:46:32,340 --> 01:46:32,500
it.

3037
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:34,580
They have their message, but they could, but

3038
01:46:34,580 --> 01:46:37,940
the idea that kids in particular, young ones,

3039
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:41,120
the Zeds, they, you know, they haven't been,

3040
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:43,060
they don't have, there was a big story

3041
01:46:43,060 --> 01:46:45,380
that was going around all this last week

3042
01:46:45,380 --> 01:46:47,140
on the mainstream media about one of the

3043
01:46:47,140 --> 01:46:49,060
high schools that canceled all their dances.

3044
01:46:49,780 --> 01:46:50,660
It's insane.

3045
01:46:50,940 --> 01:46:52,680
Because nobody was going to go to the

3046
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:53,180
dances.

3047
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,180
And it's like, that brings back my old

3048
01:46:56,180 --> 01:46:59,660
point about the sock hop, and so I

3049
01:46:59,660 --> 01:47:03,360
think churches have their opportunity to help kids

3050
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:07,020
socialize because it is a place where you

3051
01:47:07,020 --> 01:47:08,780
can meet people.

3052
01:47:09,020 --> 01:47:12,020
Yes, and, and I will say that more,

3053
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,580
so yes, non-denominational churches I think are

3054
01:47:15,580 --> 01:47:18,660
doing quite well, and they're growing, and they

3055
01:47:18,660 --> 01:47:20,120
also have very young pastors.

3056
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:21,720
You know, when I say young, I mean

3057
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:25,300
40s, and it's a very different breed, a

3058
01:47:25,300 --> 01:47:29,780
very different genre, and the music is actually

3059
01:47:29,780 --> 01:47:31,160
much closer to country and Western.

3060
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:31,880
It's all Nashville.

3061
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,100
All of the Christian contemporary music comes out

3062
01:47:35,100 --> 01:47:37,980
of Nashville now, and they're, you know, they're,

3063
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:41,460
Ann Wilson, traditional country artist, boom, moves right

3064
01:47:41,460 --> 01:47:43,280
over to Christian contemporary.

3065
01:47:43,480 --> 01:47:46,400
Jelly Roll, you know, this guy is the

3066
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:48,460
furthest thing from Christian contemporary music.

3067
01:47:48,460 --> 01:47:50,300
Has a number one hit with Brandon Lake.

3068
01:47:51,340 --> 01:47:52,400
Never heard any of these people.

3069
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,880
No, I know you haven't, but in the

3070
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,460
legendary words of Lonnie Frisbee, there's a whole

3071
01:47:57,460 --> 01:48:00,420
generation out there just looking for God, man.

3072
01:48:01,700 --> 01:48:03,580
I think they're looking to meet a girl.

3073
01:48:03,980 --> 01:48:04,760
And that too.

3074
01:48:04,940 --> 01:48:07,060
I mean, we have the Catalyst group on

3075
01:48:07,060 --> 01:48:09,000
Wednesday nights, and I actually, I go in

3076
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,600
Wednesday to help these, there's two kids, they're

3077
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:13,360
14 and 16, and they're doing a podcast.

3078
01:48:13,820 --> 01:48:15,940
So I set them up, and the church

3079
01:48:15,940 --> 01:48:18,180
is actually building podcast studios.

3080
01:48:18,180 --> 01:48:20,220
That's why you don't do the newsletter on

3081
01:48:20,220 --> 01:48:20,740
Wednesdays.

3082
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:23,080
Sometimes.

3083
01:48:23,500 --> 01:48:24,080
Yeah, sometimes.

3084
01:48:24,220 --> 01:48:25,660
No, during the day.

3085
01:48:25,740 --> 01:48:26,140
I don't know.

3086
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:27,760
I might've been doing, no, I was in

3087
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:29,280
Austin last Wednesday.

3088
01:48:29,740 --> 01:48:30,820
And I did it on Wednesday.

3089
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:31,520
What are you talking about?

3090
01:48:31,580 --> 01:48:32,460
I did it in the car.

3091
01:48:32,620 --> 01:48:34,780
I pulled over to check the newsletter.

3092
01:48:35,500 --> 01:48:36,060
Yeah, I did.

3093
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,520
I pulled over to, this is my dedication

3094
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:39,220
to the show.

3095
01:48:39,780 --> 01:48:43,380
But they have Wednesday nights, and the kids

3096
01:48:43,380 --> 01:48:44,300
are playing music.

3097
01:48:44,480 --> 01:48:46,600
They got a band, you know, and they

3098
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:47,760
are socializing.

3099
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:48,780
So yeah, yeah.

3100
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,220
And I'm, I think that is on the

3101
01:48:51,220 --> 01:48:51,620
upswing.

3102
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:53,600
We used to, you used to socialize when

3103
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:54,400
I was a kid.

3104
01:48:54,580 --> 01:48:55,260
Oh, here we go.

3105
01:48:55,700 --> 01:48:57,000
Everything was socialized.

3106
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:58,660
I mean, they had parties on the weekends.

3107
01:48:58,660 --> 01:49:00,380
We had community centers.

3108
01:49:00,620 --> 01:49:02,740
We had schools that taught you how to

3109
01:49:02,740 --> 01:49:04,600
do dances, whether you liked it or not.

3110
01:49:05,180 --> 01:49:08,200
They had sock hops and dances and proms

3111
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:08,620
and one thing.

3112
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,500
There was a socialization thing was extremely important.

3113
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,100
It's been lost to gender studies.

3114
01:49:14,340 --> 01:49:15,700
Yeah, well, it's coming back.

3115
01:49:15,900 --> 01:49:16,720
And all these churches.

3116
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:17,440
No, it's not.

3117
01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:18,080
Yes, it is.

3118
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:18,580
All these.

3119
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:19,380
Not in the schools.

3120
01:49:19,620 --> 01:49:20,420
No, not in the schools.

3121
01:49:20,540 --> 01:49:21,080
But you know what?

3122
01:49:21,140 --> 01:49:22,380
And you know how many churches are now

3123
01:49:22,380 --> 01:49:23,460
starting schools?

3124
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:26,540
It's an enormous amount.

3125
01:49:27,480 --> 01:49:30,900
They're bringing, they're starting schools as affiliated with

3126
01:49:30,900 --> 01:49:32,540
the church, starting in the church.

3127
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:35,520
Then they, many of them now have buildings

3128
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:36,780
with hundreds of students.

3129
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:39,460
You know, and it's an outgrowth of the

3130
01:49:39,460 --> 01:49:40,560
homeschool movement.

3131
01:49:41,580 --> 01:49:44,340
Yeah, no, there's, but all of these, all

3132
01:49:44,340 --> 01:49:48,420
of these non-denominational churches, they're all pushing

3133
01:49:48,420 --> 01:49:49,060
culture.

3134
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:53,480
You know, and actually, funny enough, the seven

3135
01:49:53,480 --> 01:49:55,960
mountain mandate is how you could look at

3136
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,560
it, which is, you know, I don't think

3137
01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:00,260
anyone's really part of the new apostolic reformation,

3138
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,360
the way NPR might categorize it.

3139
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:04,680
But they are saying, you know, hey, you

3140
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:05,740
know, look, this is our country.

3141
01:50:06,140 --> 01:50:08,360
And if we don't have God in our

3142
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:10,120
country, then our country is going to fall

3143
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:10,460
apart.

3144
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:12,280
That's not a new message.

3145
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:14,880
That's an old, very, very old message, about

3146
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:16,140
250 years old.

3147
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:18,400
Let's go to Taylor Swift.

3148
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:24,260
Speaking of the devil, let's bring in Beelzebub

3149
01:50:24,260 --> 01:50:24,880
herself.

3150
01:50:25,300 --> 01:50:25,400
Okay.

3151
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:27,900
I didn't know this was going on, and

3152
01:50:27,900 --> 01:50:29,620
I didn't realize it's been going on for

3153
01:50:29,620 --> 01:50:30,200
a while.

3154
01:50:31,540 --> 01:50:33,260
The third, yeah, you didn't realize that her

3155
01:50:33,260 --> 01:50:36,480
last album, the Showgirls album was, she has

3156
01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:38,360
39 versions of it.

3157
01:50:38,480 --> 01:50:39,380
No, I'm sorry.

3158
01:50:39,460 --> 01:50:42,180
I totally, look, I'm giving you license here

3159
01:50:42,180 --> 01:50:45,400
because 15 years, no, maybe it wasn't 15.

3160
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:49,500
10 years ago, you identified Taylor Swift out

3161
01:50:49,500 --> 01:50:50,040
of the gate.

3162
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:51,480
No, it was longer than that.

3163
01:50:51,580 --> 01:50:54,060
It was about 15, 16 years ago.

3164
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,040
You identified her right out of the gate

3165
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:56,900
with her noodling.

3166
01:50:57,220 --> 01:50:58,620
And you're like, there's something up with this

3167
01:50:58,620 --> 01:50:59,040
girl.

3168
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:01,740
And I remember it's so long ago, Andrew

3169
01:51:01,740 --> 01:51:04,420
Grumet was still hanging around, although Andrew Grumet

3170
01:51:04,420 --> 01:51:06,180
is part of Podcasting 2.0 now.

3171
01:51:06,740 --> 01:51:08,780
And his daughter was all into Taylor Swift.

3172
01:51:09,020 --> 01:51:10,600
And so I give you license on the

3173
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:11,460
Taylor Swift beat.

3174
01:51:11,460 --> 01:51:14,240
But no, John, I did not know she

3175
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,020
has 39 versions of the album.

3176
01:51:19,380 --> 01:51:23,540
This presentation, which was on NPR, is one

3177
01:51:23,540 --> 01:51:26,160
of the kind of lunatic presentations where they

3178
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:28,620
bring in these goofballs and they're yucking it

3179
01:51:28,620 --> 01:51:29,320
up constantly.

3180
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:31,800
But they do bring out some marketing.

3181
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:35,600
Taylor Swift, to me, is a marketing genius.

3182
01:51:35,780 --> 01:51:38,060
And that's where she really stands in the

3183
01:51:38,060 --> 01:51:38,300
world.

3184
01:51:38,340 --> 01:51:40,720
Well, somebody is, she or somebody.

3185
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:41,700
I think it's her.

3186
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,780
I thought it was her dad.

3187
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:45,240
I think her dad taught her well.

3188
01:51:45,380 --> 01:51:46,840
I think she's the one that's doing it

3189
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:47,060
all.

3190
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:48,020
But here she goes.

3191
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:51,440
As of this recording, there are 38 variants

3192
01:51:51,440 --> 01:51:53,600
of Taylor Swift's new album, The Life of

3193
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:54,040
a Showgirl.

3194
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:57,820
But are all these variants fan service or

3195
01:51:57,820 --> 01:51:58,680
fan exploitation?

3196
01:51:59,380 --> 01:52:01,140
We're getting into it with Stephen Thompson, host

3197
01:52:01,140 --> 01:52:02,940
for NPR Music and Pop Culture Happy Hour,

3198
01:52:03,380 --> 01:52:06,200
and Anne Powers, NPR Music critic and correspondent.

3199
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:08,480
Anne, Stephen, welcome to the show.

3200
01:52:08,700 --> 01:52:10,420
Thank you so much for having us.

3201
01:52:11,220 --> 01:52:13,100
I'm sorry, what is this show?

3202
01:52:13,180 --> 01:52:14,040
Is this on the radio?

3203
01:52:14,260 --> 01:52:15,160
Is this only a podcast?

3204
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:17,300
What is it?

3205
01:52:18,540 --> 01:52:19,480
Is this on the radio?

3206
01:52:20,660 --> 01:52:22,200
Yeah, it's Taylor season.

3207
01:52:22,460 --> 01:52:24,620
I feel like every season is Taylor season.

3208
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:27,120
When you are the main character in our

3209
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:29,240
lives, every season belongs to you.

3210
01:52:29,620 --> 01:52:32,060
Taylor is the climate crisis of popular music.

3211
01:52:32,140 --> 01:52:33,820
She's also the actual climate crisis with how

3212
01:52:33,820 --> 01:52:34,980
much she uses that private jet.

3213
01:52:37,340 --> 01:52:38,560
Gloves are off already.

3214
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:39,060
I love it.

3215
01:52:39,060 --> 01:52:40,380
My gloves are always off when it comes

3216
01:52:40,380 --> 01:52:40,960
to Taylor Swift.

3217
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:43,920
All right, but Stephen and Anne, can you

3218
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:45,940
name any of the different variants?

3219
01:52:46,260 --> 01:52:48,620
So there's one that's like, that's showbiz baby

3220
01:52:48,620 --> 01:52:49,300
edition.

3221
01:52:49,660 --> 01:52:50,100
Very close.

3222
01:52:50,220 --> 01:52:52,580
You're thinking of the baby, that's show business

3223
01:52:52,580 --> 01:52:53,880
vinyl collection.

3224
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:55,500
And I'll give you some of the other

3225
01:52:55,500 --> 01:52:55,840
names.

3226
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,640
There was the deluxe, so punk on the

3227
01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:00,320
internet, digital version.

3228
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:04,960
The sweat and vanilla perfume, portofino, orange glitter,

3229
01:53:05,480 --> 01:53:07,240
all one title, vinyl version.

3230
01:53:07,860 --> 01:53:11,160
And also the alone in my tower acoustic

3231
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:11,880
CD version.

3232
01:53:12,060 --> 01:53:12,840
That's just a few.

3233
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:14,200
Like I said, there's 38, right?

3234
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:16,340
27 physical, 11 digital.

3235
01:53:16,580 --> 01:53:16,980
Right.

3236
01:53:17,300 --> 01:53:19,080
Now there's a couple of ways to look

3237
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:19,460
at this.

3238
01:53:20,180 --> 01:53:22,800
You could call all of these collectible variants,

3239
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:26,120
as some have said, exploitative or manipulative.

3240
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:28,980
Maybe for rabid fans, you know, they can't

3241
01:53:28,980 --> 01:53:30,300
not buy all of this.

3242
01:53:30,420 --> 01:53:32,700
On the other hand, you could call this

3243
01:53:32,700 --> 01:53:35,580
fan service because Taylor Swift is not forcing

3244
01:53:35,580 --> 01:53:37,020
anyone to buy her music.

3245
01:53:37,140 --> 01:53:39,180
Her fans of their own volition are the

3246
01:53:39,180 --> 01:53:41,340
ones putting in their credit card information.

3247
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:42,860
Plus, you know, a lot of fans are

3248
01:53:42,860 --> 01:53:45,800
collectors and like having special violet sparkle or

3249
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:46,560
blue shimmer vinyl.

3250
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:49,880
You know, buying a vinyl also could be

3251
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:50,780
a good investment.

3252
01:53:51,940 --> 01:53:53,600
Can we go back to the church talk?

3253
01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:58,100
This better get good.

3254
01:53:59,220 --> 01:54:00,360
This is good.

3255
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,340
You're listening to a marketing genius at work

3256
01:54:03,340 --> 01:54:04,080
and what they're doing.

3257
01:54:04,380 --> 01:54:05,460
And the thing about these.

3258
01:54:06,020 --> 01:54:09,360
She's she's she has an audience that is

3259
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:13,200
buying 38 copies of the exact same product.

3260
01:54:13,620 --> 01:54:15,780
And they're not buying one or two.

3261
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:16,960
They're buying all of them.

3262
01:54:17,060 --> 01:54:18,580
And it's just different packaging.

3263
01:54:18,660 --> 01:54:20,020
It's the same songs, but different.

3264
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:21,960
No, it's like different colored vinyl.

3265
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:24,260
There's different names on each album.

3266
01:54:24,500 --> 01:54:24,900
Packaging.

3267
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:25,120
Yeah.

3268
01:54:25,140 --> 01:54:26,080
Different packaging.

3269
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:29,760
You think I know what you're thinking, which

3270
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:31,800
is, well, maybe some bonus clips on there.

3271
01:54:31,900 --> 01:54:34,700
Or maybe there's a different version of the

3272
01:54:34,700 --> 01:54:37,740
song to do that to outtakes or, you

3273
01:54:37,740 --> 01:54:39,960
know, studio studio floor stuff.

3274
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:40,700
No, none of that.

3275
01:54:41,020 --> 01:54:44,320
No, no, it's just different packaging and each

3276
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:46,360
one being a quote unquote collectible.

3277
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:48,360
And of course, it turns out that they

3278
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:50,480
are because of the you know, it's like

3279
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:51,960
anything else that's a collectible.

3280
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:53,140
Is there a market for it?

3281
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:55,520
Are they getting bid up?

3282
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:57,520
Well, let's listen to part clip two here.

3283
01:54:57,680 --> 01:54:59,140
One of our producers has a rare Swift

3284
01:54:59,140 --> 01:55:01,800
vinyl that is currently selling for upwards of

3285
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:03,980
$1,000 online.

3286
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:04,880
Right.

3287
01:55:05,900 --> 01:55:07,700
So before the Swifties come for me, I

3288
01:55:07,700 --> 01:55:11,260
know that Taylor Swift is not the only

3289
01:55:11,260 --> 01:55:13,740
one releasing all these album variants.

3290
01:55:14,220 --> 01:55:16,160
I mean, for example, Travis Scott and Fall

3291
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:20,020
Out Boy, they each released 31 physical variants

3292
01:55:20,020 --> 01:55:21,840
of their 2023 albums.

3293
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:24,180
But I will say Taylor Swift gets the

3294
01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:26,340
most attention for this business tactic.

3295
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:28,900
Why do you think she's the one who's

3296
01:55:28,900 --> 01:55:30,580
seen as preying on her fans?

3297
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:32,240
Well, I think part of it is that

3298
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:34,620
is the downside of being the biggest, right?

3299
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:37,320
And being the main character in our lives

3300
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:39,520
makes her a very rich and juicy target.

3301
01:55:39,900 --> 01:55:42,100
So it's easy to kind of single her

3302
01:55:42,100 --> 01:55:43,980
out as an emblem of the problem.

3303
01:55:44,140 --> 01:55:46,900
But Brittany, like you said, there are many,

3304
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,460
many, many stars in pop, hip hop, R

3305
01:55:49,460 --> 01:55:52,200
&B, K-pop, my God, where this is

3306
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:53,940
just standard operating procedure.

3307
01:55:54,220 --> 01:55:54,460
Yeah.

3308
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,100
I have to add, let's think about Taylor

3309
01:55:57,100 --> 01:55:59,940
Swift not as our bestie right now, but

3310
01:55:59,940 --> 01:56:01,060
as a product.

3311
01:56:01,660 --> 01:56:03,820
And I want us to think beyond music

3312
01:56:03,820 --> 01:56:07,160
because other products are sold in exactly the

3313
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:07,560
same way.

3314
01:56:07,620 --> 01:56:10,380
And I'm specifically thinking about my daughter's favorite

3315
01:56:10,380 --> 01:56:12,000
soda, Mountain Dew.

3316
01:56:12,700 --> 01:56:15,080
My daughter loves Mountain Dew and she has

3317
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:16,140
to have every new flavor.

3318
01:56:16,140 --> 01:56:18,820
And she knows, which I didn't know, that

3319
01:56:18,820 --> 01:56:20,580
there are certain flavors that are only sold

3320
01:56:20,580 --> 01:56:23,480
through Taco Bell or only sold at Walmart.

3321
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:27,480
And there's infinite varieties of basically sugar water,

3322
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:27,760
right?

3323
01:56:28,020 --> 01:56:31,660
So this is marketing beyond pop music.

3324
01:56:31,940 --> 01:56:34,600
But because Taylor is also an artist and

3325
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:36,700
has been so insistent on being an artist,

3326
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:40,320
to view her as a product feels somehow

3327
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:44,620
offensive, bringing up the other side of this

3328
01:56:44,620 --> 01:56:48,220
issue, which is, is the music worth this

3329
01:56:48,220 --> 01:56:49,020
fetishization?

3330
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:50,700
And there's been a lot of debate.

3331
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:53,500
And I would say, even though I still

3332
01:56:53,500 --> 01:56:56,620
think this album is more enjoyable and think

3333
01:56:56,620 --> 01:56:58,860
it will last longer than some people do.

3334
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:02,160
But the commentary I've seen, it's really like,

3335
01:57:02,260 --> 01:57:04,820
well, there's 38 variations and also the music

3336
01:57:04,820 --> 01:57:05,500
is terrible.

3337
01:57:06,620 --> 01:57:09,220
Well, so this is not entirely new.

3338
01:57:09,340 --> 01:57:10,820
We've had picture discs.

3339
01:57:10,820 --> 01:57:14,820
We've had all kinds of marketing, packaging differences

3340
01:57:14,820 --> 01:57:16,980
for many artists throughout the ages.

3341
01:57:18,140 --> 01:57:21,380
It really is also the only way you

3342
01:57:21,380 --> 01:57:22,240
can make money.

3343
01:57:22,660 --> 01:57:23,860
I mean, yeah, she gets a lot of

3344
01:57:23,860 --> 01:57:25,820
the Spotify money just by default.

3345
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:28,860
But really, you want people buying packages.

3346
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:30,560
You want them buying product.

3347
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:32,940
And that's, is that any different from Beanie

3348
01:57:32,940 --> 01:57:35,780
Babies or Cabbage Patch Dolls or anything like

3349
01:57:35,780 --> 01:57:35,940
that?

3350
01:57:36,060 --> 01:57:36,560
Of course not.

3351
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:36,860
No.

3352
01:57:36,860 --> 01:57:39,720
But there's a little gotcha in here in

3353
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,460
the last clip, which is the little interesting

3354
01:57:42,460 --> 01:57:43,240
thing about this.

3355
01:57:43,380 --> 01:57:46,240
If you're like, she brings out 38 copies

3356
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:48,340
of the same album and you're a collector,

3357
01:57:48,500 --> 01:57:49,920
you're a nutball.

3358
01:57:50,220 --> 01:57:52,120
I don't know anyone like that.

3359
01:57:53,420 --> 01:57:55,780
I would be shocked if you did.

3360
01:57:56,300 --> 01:57:57,220
I know collectors.

3361
01:57:57,220 --> 01:57:58,880
But there are people that are out there.

3362
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:00,560
The Swifties.

3363
01:58:03,140 --> 01:58:04,500
Comey, for example.

3364
01:58:06,020 --> 01:58:07,700
Uh, Justin Trudeau.

3365
01:58:07,860 --> 01:58:09,260
He went to her concert.

3366
01:58:09,740 --> 01:58:09,880
Yeah.

3367
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:13,680
And that's just because they like young girls.

3368
01:58:14,540 --> 01:58:16,360
Say you buy 10 or 20 of these

3369
01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:16,700
things.

3370
01:58:18,580 --> 01:58:20,640
Billboard says that's 20 sales.

3371
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:22,660
It helps you get to number one.

3372
01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:23,660
It's bullcrap.

3373
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:24,040
Yeah.

3374
01:58:24,140 --> 01:58:26,840
Does that really matter anymore that you're number

3375
01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:28,020
one on a chart?

3376
01:58:28,020 --> 01:58:28,900
It does in the industry.

3377
01:58:29,060 --> 01:58:29,760
It doesn't to us.

3378
01:58:29,780 --> 01:58:31,120
No, I don't think it makes a difference

3379
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:31,460
to any.

3380
01:58:31,500 --> 01:58:32,940
I don't think the kids care anymore.

3381
01:58:33,340 --> 01:58:33,860
The kids.

3382
01:58:34,500 --> 01:58:36,380
I don't think the kids ever cared when

3383
01:58:36,380 --> 01:58:37,160
I was a kid.

3384
01:58:37,260 --> 01:58:39,720
I never I'm 16.

3385
01:58:39,900 --> 01:58:41,360
I bought some 45.

3386
01:58:41,660 --> 01:58:42,900
Well, no, no, no, no.

3387
01:58:42,900 --> 01:58:45,160
The way the I didn't care what Billboard

3388
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:45,980
had to say.

3389
01:58:46,140 --> 01:58:48,180
No, the way the industry used to work

3390
01:58:48,180 --> 01:58:51,220
with radio when radio was the predominant distribution

3391
01:58:51,220 --> 01:58:54,480
mechanism instead of Spotify or Apple Music or

3392
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:56,300
Amazon or whatever you're using.

3393
01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,060
It was important because the higher up you

3394
01:58:59,060 --> 01:59:00,720
are in the chart, the more you got

3395
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:02,540
into rotation on the radio stations.

3396
01:59:02,540 --> 01:59:04,120
That's all that it was about.

3397
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:06,100
I don't think any kid really cared that

3398
01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:06,820
it was number one.

3399
01:59:07,540 --> 01:59:09,320
It was all about radio rotation.

3400
01:59:10,060 --> 01:59:11,880
That's an industry I happen to know about.

3401
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:12,960
Yes.

3402
01:59:13,140 --> 01:59:15,580
Well, there's still there's still Billboard has not

3403
01:59:15,580 --> 01:59:16,400
gone out of business.

3404
01:59:17,140 --> 01:59:17,580
Barely.

3405
01:59:17,900 --> 01:59:20,760
They've been hanging on by their fingernails as

3406
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:22,120
opposed to why they're in business.

3407
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:23,980
There's a question, since you know that much

3408
01:59:23,980 --> 01:59:26,720
about it, what's keeping them alive and why?

3409
01:59:28,060 --> 01:59:28,800
Well, I don't know.

3410
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:29,240
I got to be.

3411
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:31,120
I don't know if they're alive.

3412
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:33,220
Well, during this clip, I'll look it up

3413
01:59:33,220 --> 01:59:34,700
and I'll tell you if they really are

3414
01:59:34,700 --> 01:59:35,760
in existence.

3415
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:38,240
As opposed to, I guess, if there had

3416
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:40,460
been 38 versions of folklore.

3417
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,180
And then all the critics would be like,

3418
01:59:43,260 --> 01:59:47,040
oh, yes, please give us the flower press

3419
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:50,040
version that has the dried unicorn blood.

3420
01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:51,720
I will pay for that because the music

3421
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:52,680
is so exquisite.

3422
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:56,060
Also, there were variants on folklore, but only

3423
01:59:56,060 --> 01:59:58,000
20 variants as far as I can tell.

3424
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:01,240
Now, let's not forget that Taylor has been

3425
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,580
a bestselling artist for nearly two decades, and

3426
02:00:03,580 --> 02:00:06,260
her efforts to sell physical albums go way

3427
02:00:06,260 --> 02:00:07,680
back to the beginning of her career.

3428
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:10,380
There was, for example, her partnership with Papa

3429
02:00:10,380 --> 02:00:13,580
John's for her 2012 album, Red, where I

3430
02:00:13,580 --> 02:00:14,720
mean, this is a good deal, mind you.

3431
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:18,300
For $22, you could buy a pizza and

3432
02:00:18,300 --> 02:00:20,800
Taylor's new album and have them delivered to

3433
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:21,080
you.

3434
02:00:21,820 --> 02:00:25,000
Just a side note, those Papa John's boxes

3435
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:28,380
were printed with Taylor's album cover on them.

3436
02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:31,040
And you can buy one of those cardboard

3437
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:37,000
pizza boxes for $513 on eBay right now.

3438
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:38,200
Oh, my gosh.

3439
02:00:38,440 --> 02:00:41,080
So I wonder, what's different now?

3440
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:43,940
Like, why is this grinding everybody's gears?

3441
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:46,420
I think it's just proxy rage.

3442
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:49,140
Say more, please.

3443
02:00:49,420 --> 02:00:52,780
People are very mad in general right now

3444
02:00:52,780 --> 02:00:54,480
about everything.

3445
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:59,300
And Taylor Swift, she enters into this conversation

3446
02:00:59,300 --> 02:01:02,380
with an album full of songs that are

3447
02:01:02,380 --> 02:01:07,800
flaunting her material success, her partnership with an

3448
02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:09,220
equally wealthy...

3449
02:01:09,220 --> 02:01:10,620
Not equally wealthy, but...

3450
02:01:10,620 --> 02:01:11,700
Okay, not equally.

3451
02:01:11,860 --> 02:01:12,640
Fair, okay.

3452
02:01:12,700 --> 02:01:14,740
They both clear a certain box with mega

3453
02:01:14,740 --> 02:01:15,280
wealth, yeah.

3454
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:16,340
With a wealthy guy.

3455
02:01:16,660 --> 02:01:19,000
I will say she is also a billionaire.

3456
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:21,400
So here comes a billionaire in a feather

3457
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:21,680
boa.

3458
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:23,800
It just drives everybody crazy.

3459
02:01:25,500 --> 02:01:27,380
Oh, I'd forgotten about this.

3460
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:32,330
Penske bought it five years ago.

3461
02:01:32,510 --> 02:01:33,490
Penske Media.

3462
02:01:33,730 --> 02:01:35,910
It's like a vanity ownership.

3463
02:01:36,190 --> 02:01:37,690
Oh, I got billboard, not gonna hang out

3464
02:01:37,690 --> 02:01:38,530
with Taylor Swift.

3465
02:01:39,750 --> 02:01:40,430
It could be.

3466
02:01:40,570 --> 02:01:41,930
It's not a very valuable property.

3467
02:01:42,810 --> 02:01:45,850
But I think what's more interesting with Taylor

3468
02:01:45,850 --> 02:01:48,690
Swift is that, yeah, you need to be

3469
02:01:48,690 --> 02:01:49,650
a real person.

3470
02:01:51,290 --> 02:01:54,270
My buddy, Vic, with his wife, Chris, they

3471
02:01:54,270 --> 02:01:55,350
stayed over for the weekend.

3472
02:01:55,350 --> 02:01:56,530
They're from Dallas.

3473
02:01:56,870 --> 02:01:58,930
And he used to be in the music

3474
02:01:58,930 --> 02:02:02,650
business, wrote and produced with all the Jersey

3475
02:02:02,650 --> 02:02:05,650
Shore guys, all the hair bands, Alice Cooper.

3476
02:02:06,930 --> 02:02:11,030
And he's now doing, just for fun, he's

3477
02:02:11,030 --> 02:02:13,410
doing music on Suno.

3478
02:02:14,330 --> 02:02:17,270
And he says, everything has changed.

3479
02:02:17,430 --> 02:02:20,670
Now, everybody can make any kind of song.

3480
02:02:20,670 --> 02:02:23,610
And he had created his own Taylor Swift.

3481
02:02:24,370 --> 02:02:26,450
It was a great title.

3482
02:02:26,610 --> 02:02:28,430
You're My Next Last Boyfriend.

3483
02:02:29,550 --> 02:02:30,710
I wish he had left.

3484
02:02:31,130 --> 02:02:32,530
It's fantastic.

3485
02:02:33,270 --> 02:02:35,330
He created the look, everything.

3486
02:02:35,710 --> 02:02:38,450
The only thing that's missing is an actual,

3487
02:02:39,050 --> 02:02:40,790
I forget what name he chose for her,

3488
02:02:41,090 --> 02:02:43,050
but the actual physical person.

3489
02:02:44,070 --> 02:02:46,350
And I think we're not far away from

3490
02:02:46,350 --> 02:02:48,190
going back to kind of the days of

3491
02:02:48,190 --> 02:02:51,070
the early 80s, Milli Vanilli, where you just

3492
02:02:51,070 --> 02:02:51,730
have a song.

3493
02:02:51,850 --> 02:02:53,010
And as long as you can attach a

3494
02:02:53,010 --> 02:02:54,790
human being to it, you can have a

3495
02:02:54,790 --> 02:02:58,190
Taylor Swift type experience of fame and kids

3496
02:02:58,190 --> 02:02:59,130
going nuts for him.

3497
02:02:59,370 --> 02:03:02,310
And I have to say, for all the

3498
02:03:02,310 --> 02:03:05,170
things I don't like about AI, I think

3499
02:03:05,170 --> 02:03:06,390
we should just go full bore.

3500
02:03:06,770 --> 02:03:07,870
Just flood the zone.

3501
02:03:08,110 --> 02:03:08,570
Oh, brother.

3502
02:03:08,730 --> 02:03:09,230
Yeah, flood.

3503
02:03:09,330 --> 02:03:11,690
I want as much AI end of show

3504
02:03:11,690 --> 02:03:12,050
mixes.

3505
02:03:12,690 --> 02:03:13,990
I want our musical.

3506
02:03:14,570 --> 02:03:15,170
I mean, come on.

3507
02:03:15,270 --> 02:03:16,630
We already got the art.

3508
02:03:17,230 --> 02:03:17,890
Well, yeah.

3509
02:03:17,890 --> 02:03:23,390
And I've got the end of show blurbs,

3510
02:03:24,110 --> 02:03:26,010
or half of those are AI.

3511
02:03:26,750 --> 02:03:27,070
Oh, yeah.

3512
02:03:27,270 --> 02:03:29,190
Well, but those are just annoying.

3513
02:03:29,430 --> 02:03:31,390
But I'm talking about, like, I want the

3514
02:03:31,390 --> 02:03:31,530
real.

3515
02:03:31,530 --> 02:03:32,830
Right, because I'm doing it.

3516
02:03:32,890 --> 02:03:33,850
You heard that, right?

3517
02:03:34,250 --> 02:03:35,430
I'm mean, I'm mean.

3518
02:03:36,530 --> 02:03:38,690
No, I want some songs.

3519
02:03:38,770 --> 02:03:39,810
I want some real songs.

3520
02:03:39,930 --> 02:03:40,190
Let's do it.

3521
02:03:40,210 --> 02:03:41,130
And you know what the great thing is

3522
02:03:41,130 --> 02:03:41,910
about these songs?

3523
02:03:42,490 --> 02:03:42,990
None of them are.

3524
02:03:42,990 --> 02:03:46,490
You disparage Nico Seim, who is our great

3525
02:03:46,490 --> 02:03:48,490
songwriter that was doing this.

3526
02:03:48,630 --> 02:03:48,870
He stopped.

3527
02:03:49,090 --> 02:03:49,990
No, I didn't.

3528
02:03:50,070 --> 02:03:50,730
I played him.

3529
02:03:50,770 --> 02:03:51,590
What are you talking about?

3530
02:03:51,710 --> 02:03:53,030
I didn't disparage him at all.

3531
02:03:53,430 --> 02:03:55,490
I played them because he's actually good.

3532
02:03:56,030 --> 02:03:56,730
He is good.

3533
02:03:56,970 --> 02:03:58,830
Yeah, but I want more of them.

3534
02:03:58,930 --> 02:04:01,890
The best thing about all these songs is

3535
02:04:01,890 --> 02:04:03,470
that you can play them on a podcast

3536
02:04:03,470 --> 02:04:06,490
because they're not registered with ASCAP BMI.

3537
02:04:06,830 --> 02:04:09,330
There's no physical licensing required.

3538
02:04:10,010 --> 02:04:10,250
He just.

3539
02:04:10,270 --> 02:04:11,690
Oh, that's an interesting point.

3540
02:04:11,690 --> 02:04:14,750
I could do a music show with all

3541
02:04:14,750 --> 02:04:17,370
AI music and it would probably be pretty

3542
02:04:17,370 --> 02:04:17,790
good.

3543
02:04:18,810 --> 02:04:19,990
But no one's registered.

3544
02:04:20,270 --> 02:04:20,570
No one's.

3545
02:04:20,730 --> 02:04:21,450
No one even.

3546
02:04:21,530 --> 02:04:23,030
No one even knows what to do.

3547
02:04:23,270 --> 02:04:25,150
We need an ASCAP for AI.

3548
02:04:25,390 --> 02:04:25,870
AI.

3549
02:04:26,030 --> 02:04:26,490
ASCAP.

3550
02:04:26,690 --> 02:04:27,510
No, we don't.

3551
02:04:28,510 --> 02:04:28,930
AISCAP.

3552
02:04:28,930 --> 02:04:29,870
Let's do AISCAP.

3553
02:04:30,950 --> 02:04:32,110
No, not at all.

3554
02:04:32,210 --> 02:04:33,130
This is the great thing.

3555
02:04:33,850 --> 02:04:35,150
That's an exit strategy.

3556
02:04:35,290 --> 02:04:36,050
Are you kidding me?

3557
02:04:36,150 --> 02:04:36,870
Oh, please.

3558
02:04:37,010 --> 02:04:37,910
Exit strategy.

3559
02:04:37,910 --> 02:04:38,250
Yeah.

3560
02:04:40,030 --> 02:04:43,390
No, I want all kinds of great songs,

3561
02:04:43,510 --> 02:04:44,490
but they have to be short.

3562
02:04:44,650 --> 02:04:45,970
Make them a minute, a minute and a

3563
02:04:45,970 --> 02:04:46,210
half.

3564
02:04:46,310 --> 02:04:48,590
That shows the true professional prompter.

3565
02:04:50,230 --> 02:04:51,770
Yeah, if you can keep them short, that's

3566
02:04:51,770 --> 02:04:52,130
the problem.

3567
02:04:52,490 --> 02:04:53,650
And then I can publish them.

3568
02:04:53,990 --> 02:04:55,710
These things are scheduled, like the AI says,

3569
02:04:55,790 --> 02:04:58,050
oh, a song should be 2.2 minutes.

3570
02:04:58,230 --> 02:04:59,030
No, no.

3571
02:04:59,710 --> 02:05:00,950
There are people who know how to do

3572
02:05:00,950 --> 02:05:01,050
it.

3573
02:05:01,090 --> 02:05:02,410
They know how to do this stuff now.

3574
02:05:02,690 --> 02:05:03,690
They're figuring it out.

3575
02:05:04,690 --> 02:05:07,110
And it's, I'm okay with it.

3576
02:05:07,110 --> 02:05:09,790
And then maybe, you know, here's the exit

3577
02:05:09,790 --> 02:05:10,350
strategy.

3578
02:05:10,810 --> 02:05:12,770
We pick one of these songs that's really

3579
02:05:12,770 --> 02:05:14,890
good, you know, like a Nico Sime toe

3580
02:05:14,890 --> 02:05:15,230
tapper.

3581
02:05:15,650 --> 02:05:19,670
And then we find some teenage girl to

3582
02:05:19,670 --> 02:05:20,370
lip sync.

3583
02:05:20,490 --> 02:05:21,950
And then we create a star out of

3584
02:05:21,950 --> 02:05:22,070
her.

3585
02:05:22,730 --> 02:05:24,550
We could be the new hit makers.

3586
02:05:25,670 --> 02:05:26,790
Because that's all you need to do.

3587
02:05:26,890 --> 02:05:28,990
You just need to attach a human being

3588
02:05:28,990 --> 02:05:29,370
to it.

3589
02:05:29,410 --> 02:05:30,870
And then boom, you fill up the stadium.

3590
02:05:34,270 --> 02:05:35,650
It's just that easy.

3591
02:05:35,670 --> 02:05:36,590
It's that easy.

3592
02:05:36,590 --> 02:05:37,850
And with that, I want to thank you

3593
02:05:37,850 --> 02:05:38,450
for your courage.

3594
02:05:38,590 --> 02:05:39,850
In the morning to you, the man who

3595
02:05:39,850 --> 02:05:43,170
put three C's in the church sock hop.

3596
02:05:43,270 --> 02:05:44,550
Say hello to my friend on the other

3597
02:05:44,550 --> 02:05:44,730
end.

3598
02:05:44,790 --> 02:05:47,070
The one, the only, Mr. John C.

3599
02:05:50,110 --> 02:05:52,290
Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam

3600
02:05:52,290 --> 02:05:52,430
Curry.

3601
02:05:52,550 --> 02:05:53,790
In the morning, ships to sea, boots on

3602
02:05:53,790 --> 02:05:55,430
the ground, feet in the air, subs in

3603
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:56,830
the water, all the dames and knights out

3604
02:05:56,830 --> 02:05:57,030
there.

3605
02:05:57,070 --> 02:05:58,390
Yeah, in the morning to the, whoa.

3606
02:05:58,790 --> 02:06:00,010
In the morning to the trolls in the

3607
02:06:00,010 --> 02:06:00,470
troll room.

3608
02:06:00,510 --> 02:06:00,930
Here we go.

3609
02:06:01,030 --> 02:06:01,770
Let's take the trolls.

3610
02:06:01,770 --> 02:06:07,430
We have 1865 at the peak.

3611
02:06:07,610 --> 02:06:09,250
OK, 1865.

3612
02:06:09,810 --> 02:06:11,310
These trolls are in the troll room.

3613
02:06:11,410 --> 02:06:13,090
You can find them at no agenda stream

3614
02:06:13,090 --> 02:06:13,690
dot com.

3615
02:06:14,410 --> 02:06:17,170
Or you can listen to them on.

3616
02:06:18,150 --> 02:06:19,470
You can join them, I should say.

3617
02:06:19,570 --> 02:06:21,210
Listening live in a modern podcast.

3618
02:06:21,350 --> 02:06:23,510
I've got an email this morning from someone

3619
02:06:23,510 --> 02:06:26,910
who said, hey, man, Apple and Spotify aren't

3620
02:06:26,910 --> 02:06:28,750
uploading your podcast anymore.

3621
02:06:28,970 --> 02:06:30,110
I sent it on to you.

3622
02:06:30,210 --> 02:06:30,630
Yes.

3623
02:06:30,630 --> 02:06:32,090
They sent it to me.

3624
02:06:32,170 --> 02:06:33,310
I don't know why people send me this

3625
02:06:33,310 --> 02:06:33,470
stuff.

3626
02:06:33,530 --> 02:06:34,310
It's not my job.

3627
02:06:34,630 --> 02:06:36,570
Well, so first of all, we are not

3628
02:06:36,570 --> 02:06:37,430
on Spotify.

3629
02:06:38,130 --> 02:06:39,050
We never have been.

3630
02:06:39,190 --> 02:06:40,610
No, because we we will not.

3631
02:06:40,690 --> 02:06:42,130
So why would you think we why does

3632
02:06:42,130 --> 02:06:43,170
anyone think we were?

3633
02:06:43,910 --> 02:06:45,490
Well, that's why it's kind of problematic.

3634
02:06:45,510 --> 02:06:46,810
And then, you know, I go look at

3635
02:06:46,810 --> 02:06:48,410
Apple podcast and yeah, we're there.

3636
02:06:48,510 --> 02:06:49,890
Our latest episode is there.

3637
02:06:50,290 --> 02:06:52,790
But I think the problem is that people

3638
02:06:52,790 --> 02:06:54,230
are still in these legacy apps.

3639
02:06:54,230 --> 02:06:55,610
And then, you know, they see it show

3640
02:06:55,610 --> 02:06:56,730
up on no agenda show.

3641
02:06:56,730 --> 02:06:59,350
And like you forgot to upload it to

3642
02:06:59,350 --> 02:07:00,990
Apple podcast, which is not how it works.

3643
02:07:01,110 --> 02:07:02,550
But OK, I don't expect you to understand

3644
02:07:02,550 --> 02:07:03,150
how it works.

3645
02:07:03,750 --> 02:07:05,230
But that's just the legacy apps.

3646
02:07:05,310 --> 02:07:06,410
That's the legacy system.

3647
02:07:07,070 --> 02:07:08,010
You want to get out of that.

3648
02:07:08,090 --> 02:07:09,910
You want to get a modern podcast app.

3649
02:07:10,890 --> 02:07:13,430
And even pocket casts.

3650
02:07:15,270 --> 02:07:17,550
I think they they I believe that I

3651
02:07:17,550 --> 02:07:20,070
don't know if they use pod ping because

3652
02:07:20,070 --> 02:07:22,170
someone said, hey, man, it's two hours late

3653
02:07:22,170 --> 02:07:23,490
on on pocket cast.

3654
02:07:23,570 --> 02:07:25,890
Well, that's because pocket casts may not use

3655
02:07:25,890 --> 02:07:26,510
pod ping.

3656
02:07:27,110 --> 02:07:29,230
You can go to podcast apps dot com.

3657
02:07:29,230 --> 02:07:31,530
You can see exactly who uses pod ping.

3658
02:07:31,610 --> 02:07:33,210
And that's the one you want to use.

3659
02:07:33,870 --> 02:07:36,470
What was that URL again?

3660
02:07:36,810 --> 02:07:40,770
Podcast apps dot com, plural podcast apps dot

3661
02:07:40,770 --> 02:07:41,210
com.

3662
02:07:41,630 --> 02:07:42,530
That's what you want to do.

3663
02:07:44,990 --> 02:07:47,370
So we've been talking about A.I., of

3664
02:07:47,370 --> 02:07:50,010
course, even though it's not a huge lift

3665
02:07:50,010 --> 02:07:54,650
anymore, it still does take actual creativity and

3666
02:07:54,650 --> 02:07:57,530
humor to be able to create something that

3667
02:07:57,530 --> 02:07:59,770
is worthy of becoming the show art for

3668
02:07:59,770 --> 02:08:00,950
the no agenda podcast.

3669
02:08:01,570 --> 02:08:05,330
And I'd say 90 percent aren't able to

3670
02:08:05,330 --> 02:08:07,910
do it, which it's OK because it just

3671
02:08:07,910 --> 02:08:09,330
it clutters everything up.

3672
02:08:09,470 --> 02:08:11,870
And it's hard to, you know, you just

3673
02:08:11,870 --> 02:08:14,550
have to look through more submissions, which I

3674
02:08:14,550 --> 02:08:16,670
quite enjoy because we go, oh, man, I

3675
02:08:16,670 --> 02:08:17,990
can get something to complain about.

3676
02:08:20,310 --> 02:08:22,390
But if you have it in you, if

3677
02:08:22,390 --> 02:08:25,430
you have the the the humor and it's

3678
02:08:25,430 --> 02:08:27,690
all human element and you can translate that

3679
02:08:27,690 --> 02:08:29,670
through your prompt, you can create something that

3680
02:08:29,670 --> 02:08:30,890
will be quite good.

3681
02:08:31,010 --> 02:08:32,990
And I'm just I'm pulling back from the

3682
02:08:32,990 --> 02:08:35,010
generative A.I. I'm OK with it.

3683
02:08:35,350 --> 02:08:36,070
Flood the zone.

3684
02:08:36,210 --> 02:08:37,390
I hope it stays alive.

3685
02:08:37,470 --> 02:08:38,590
I hope it stays cheap.

3686
02:08:38,710 --> 02:08:39,690
I don't know if it will.

3687
02:08:40,310 --> 02:08:42,130
I don't know how any of it's possible

3688
02:08:42,130 --> 02:08:43,650
for these prices.

3689
02:08:43,690 --> 02:08:46,170
But OK, well, he's backed off from his

3690
02:08:46,170 --> 02:08:46,610
position.

3691
02:08:46,650 --> 02:08:48,210
Did you notice that, ladies and gentlemen?

3692
02:08:48,410 --> 02:08:50,150
No, I still think it's going to kill

3693
02:08:50,150 --> 02:08:52,510
our young people with their chat bots.

3694
02:08:52,690 --> 02:08:55,270
And I don't think it's proven any worthiness

3695
02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:59,130
in the in industry or in business, except

3696
02:08:59,130 --> 02:09:00,310
for call centers.

3697
02:09:01,870 --> 02:09:03,830
Harmful is the word you're looking for.

3698
02:09:03,930 --> 02:09:06,290
Otherwise, it's harmful and it's costing way too

3699
02:09:06,290 --> 02:09:06,790
much money.

3700
02:09:06,830 --> 02:09:07,390
But it's OK.

3701
02:09:07,790 --> 02:09:09,330
We've been through these things before.

3702
02:09:09,450 --> 02:09:11,090
What was it before this machine learning?

3703
02:09:11,210 --> 02:09:12,970
Then it was cloud and then it was

3704
02:09:12,970 --> 02:09:13,950
Internet of Things.

3705
02:09:14,050 --> 02:09:15,310
It's just another passing.

3706
02:09:15,450 --> 02:09:17,850
And we'll we'll have quantum coming up soon.

3707
02:09:17,990 --> 02:09:20,310
So just another client server.

3708
02:09:20,310 --> 02:09:21,930
Client, client server.

3709
02:09:22,630 --> 02:09:24,730
So congratulations to Comic Strip Blogger.

3710
02:09:25,450 --> 02:09:28,030
He prompted it properly and brought us No

3711
02:09:28,030 --> 02:09:29,750
Agenda the Musical as the artwork.

3712
02:09:29,930 --> 02:09:31,470
A lot of people did No Agenda the

3713
02:09:31,470 --> 02:09:31,710
Musical.

3714
02:09:31,990 --> 02:09:34,650
Somehow he just got the right element of

3715
02:09:34,650 --> 02:09:35,750
hokey looking dorks.

3716
02:09:36,750 --> 02:09:40,510
He had absolutely had the right No Agenda

3717
02:09:40,510 --> 02:09:41,250
in lights.

3718
02:09:41,550 --> 02:09:42,610
No Agenda the Musical.

3719
02:09:42,850 --> 02:09:43,750
It was perfect.

3720
02:09:44,590 --> 02:09:45,090
I mean, he did.

3721
02:09:45,170 --> 02:09:48,110
He took about 10 stabs at it.

3722
02:09:48,190 --> 02:09:48,630
Oh, he did.

3723
02:09:48,730 --> 02:09:49,770
Oh, yeah, he did.

3724
02:09:49,770 --> 02:09:51,650
He had a whole bunch of different ones.

3725
02:09:51,810 --> 02:09:52,190
He did.

3726
02:09:52,550 --> 02:09:53,970
Yeah, he was going to he was going

3727
02:09:53,970 --> 02:09:55,630
for he was swinging for the fences.

3728
02:09:55,890 --> 02:09:56,390
He was.

3729
02:09:56,790 --> 02:09:57,230
He was.

3730
02:09:57,550 --> 02:10:01,530
And so he ended up hitting a homer.

3731
02:10:01,730 --> 02:10:03,390
It's what happens if you keep swinging for

3732
02:10:03,390 --> 02:10:03,930
the fences.

3733
02:10:04,130 --> 02:10:06,210
The earlier version of the particular one that

3734
02:10:06,210 --> 02:10:07,610
he picked is way down at the bottom.

3735
02:10:07,710 --> 02:10:09,330
There's a version called Just Musical.

3736
02:10:09,630 --> 02:10:11,070
I think this is his first attempt.

3737
02:10:11,110 --> 02:10:11,810
And it's terrible.

3738
02:10:12,450 --> 02:10:13,010
Let me see.

3739
02:10:13,250 --> 02:10:14,730
And Just Musical.

3740
02:10:14,910 --> 02:10:15,990
I'm looking for it now.

3741
02:10:16,170 --> 02:10:18,790
I don't see it's next to Trump piece.

3742
02:10:18,790 --> 02:10:22,830
And we also had a lot of people

3743
02:10:22,830 --> 02:10:27,930
doing 78s, which was, I mean, I think

3744
02:10:27,930 --> 02:10:29,730
a lot of it's eight rows down if

3745
02:10:29,730 --> 02:10:30,450
you're four across.

3746
02:10:30,710 --> 02:10:32,270
No, I am four across.

3747
02:10:32,370 --> 02:10:33,070
Let me see.

3748
02:10:34,390 --> 02:10:38,230
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

3749
02:10:38,350 --> 02:10:38,750
Oh, yeah.

3750
02:10:38,910 --> 02:10:39,910
Oh, no, no, no.

3751
02:10:39,930 --> 02:10:40,690
Well, you're right.

3752
02:10:41,270 --> 02:10:43,790
So he kept stabbing at it and he

3753
02:10:43,790 --> 02:10:45,490
came up with one that worked and we

3754
02:10:45,490 --> 02:10:46,130
liked it.

3755
02:10:46,930 --> 02:10:48,370
Um, let's see.

3756
02:10:48,570 --> 02:10:50,750
What else did we consider?

3757
02:10:51,010 --> 02:10:52,110
Anything else?

3758
02:10:53,210 --> 02:10:55,490
Kind of thought Nancy Pelosi strung out as

3759
02:10:55,490 --> 02:10:57,350
a drunk was funny, but we thought that

3760
02:10:57,350 --> 02:10:57,890
was funny.

3761
02:10:58,030 --> 02:10:58,530
That's right.

3762
02:10:58,610 --> 02:11:00,510
One dimension that we're never going to use,

3763
02:11:00,670 --> 02:11:01,930
but we'll never use that.

3764
02:11:02,050 --> 02:11:02,490
We won't use.

3765
02:11:02,570 --> 02:11:03,170
No, of course not.

3766
02:11:03,430 --> 02:11:04,670
But that was a funny piece.

3767
02:11:05,810 --> 02:11:06,390
Looked great.

3768
02:11:07,370 --> 02:11:09,130
I mean, that's good prompting.

3769
02:11:10,910 --> 02:11:13,650
We had several Noah Jenner, the musicals.

3770
02:11:14,170 --> 02:11:16,270
Yeah, no, nothing there.

3771
02:11:16,370 --> 02:11:17,050
Jeffrey Rhea.

3772
02:11:17,330 --> 02:11:19,250
A lot of people tried the protein powder.

3773
02:11:19,530 --> 02:11:21,170
I think we did waver a little bit

3774
02:11:21,170 --> 02:11:23,390
on Nestworks protein chips, or at least I

3775
02:11:23,390 --> 02:11:23,670
did.

3776
02:11:24,550 --> 02:11:25,550
Yeah, you liked it.

3777
02:11:25,670 --> 02:11:26,130
I was it.

3778
02:11:26,350 --> 02:11:29,250
Well, I really saw the comic strip blogger

3779
02:11:29,250 --> 02:11:30,630
piece early and I liked it a lot.

3780
02:11:30,630 --> 02:11:31,410
It was a good piece.

3781
02:11:31,510 --> 02:11:32,750
Yeah, it was a good piece.

3782
02:11:33,850 --> 02:11:36,390
And Scaramanga keeps threatening as he's going to

3783
02:11:36,390 --> 02:11:37,070
do some video.

3784
02:11:37,190 --> 02:11:39,250
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm all

3785
02:11:39,250 --> 02:11:39,470
in.

3786
02:11:39,770 --> 02:11:42,590
And where's our, where's our Sora 2 musical

3787
02:11:42,590 --> 02:11:43,010
stuff?

3788
02:11:43,010 --> 02:11:44,970
I mean, people should be all over this

3789
02:11:44,970 --> 02:11:46,830
now that I'm opened up.

3790
02:11:46,850 --> 02:11:47,270
I'm ready.

3791
02:11:47,350 --> 02:11:48,270
I'm going to promote this.

3792
02:11:48,730 --> 02:11:50,050
I want tons of songs.

3793
02:11:50,170 --> 02:11:51,590
We're going to publish the songs.

3794
02:11:51,710 --> 02:11:54,870
We'll become a publisher of AI songs because

3795
02:11:54,870 --> 02:11:55,970
normally we don't do that.

3796
02:11:56,470 --> 02:11:58,050
We don't put the songs in the show

3797
02:11:58,050 --> 02:12:00,970
notes because that is actually an issue.

3798
02:12:01,150 --> 02:12:04,830
Well, particularly if it's, if you're using copyrighted

3799
02:12:04,830 --> 02:12:09,030
work, we can play spoofs and copy of

3800
02:12:09,030 --> 02:12:12,070
copyrighted work and parodies is the, is the

3801
02:12:12,070 --> 02:12:14,970
actual term within context of the show.

3802
02:12:16,090 --> 02:12:18,430
That would be, I can defend that under

3803
02:12:18,430 --> 02:12:19,190
fair use.

3804
02:12:19,310 --> 02:12:22,390
If you start publishing that separately, that's a

3805
02:12:22,390 --> 02:12:23,050
huge problem.

3806
02:12:23,690 --> 02:12:25,330
So that's why people always ask, why don't

3807
02:12:25,330 --> 02:12:26,450
you publish the end of show mix?

3808
02:12:26,570 --> 02:12:28,170
And well, for that reason, now, if you're

3809
02:12:28,170 --> 02:12:30,510
sending me AI stuff, we're going to start

3810
02:12:30,510 --> 02:12:31,230
highlighting you.

3811
02:12:31,330 --> 02:12:32,670
We're going to put you front and center

3812
02:12:32,670 --> 02:12:33,570
in the show notes.

3813
02:12:34,010 --> 02:12:35,610
We're going to, we're going to, it'll be

3814
02:12:35,610 --> 02:12:36,910
no agenda records.

3815
02:12:38,750 --> 02:12:39,830
No agenda music.

3816
02:12:40,030 --> 02:12:40,550
They are.

3817
02:12:41,230 --> 02:12:42,030
How about.

3818
02:12:43,370 --> 02:12:43,770
NAP.

3819
02:12:45,410 --> 02:12:48,190
No agenda music publishing NAMP.

3820
02:12:48,270 --> 02:12:48,670
NAMP.

3821
02:12:48,970 --> 02:12:49,450
So catchy.

3822
02:12:51,190 --> 02:12:53,310
So we will, we will promote you.

3823
02:12:53,590 --> 02:12:54,430
We will promote you.

3824
02:12:54,510 --> 02:12:56,190
And then, you know, maybe we'll find someone,

3825
02:12:56,390 --> 02:12:57,990
one of our producers has a kid.

3826
02:12:58,310 --> 02:12:59,510
Teach the kid how to lip sync.

3827
02:12:59,530 --> 02:13:00,630
We'll make your kid a star.

3828
02:13:01,690 --> 02:13:02,650
It's going to be fabulous.

3829
02:13:03,330 --> 02:13:05,110
So thank you, comics for blogger.

3830
02:13:05,110 --> 02:13:05,930
And congratulations.

3831
02:13:06,130 --> 02:13:07,390
You hadn't had a win for a while.

3832
02:13:07,390 --> 02:13:09,690
And he's been prompting for many, many, many

3833
02:13:09,690 --> 02:13:10,250
episodes.

3834
02:13:10,390 --> 02:13:11,390
And he finally made it.

3835
02:13:13,160 --> 02:13:15,120
Of course, we've been running value for value.

3836
02:13:15,280 --> 02:13:18,460
It'll be 18 years coming up in a

3837
02:13:18,460 --> 02:13:18,740
week.

3838
02:13:19,480 --> 02:13:23,400
Next Sunday, 18 years of your no agenda

3839
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:23,740
show.

3840
02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:24,800
We will be celebrating.

3841
02:13:24,980 --> 02:13:26,140
We hope you join us for that.

3842
02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:28,500
And we've been doing value for value for

3843
02:13:28,500 --> 02:13:30,140
those 18 years, which means.

3844
02:13:30,340 --> 02:13:32,620
We give you the show right up front

3845
02:13:32,620 --> 02:13:34,380
open and available.

3846
02:13:34,380 --> 02:13:40,160
There's no, no levels or subscriptions or anything.

3847
02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:41,200
You got to jump around.

3848
02:13:41,320 --> 02:13:41,960
You just listen to it.

3849
02:13:41,980 --> 02:13:42,680
You subscribe to it.

3850
02:13:42,700 --> 02:13:43,340
You listen to it.

3851
02:13:43,340 --> 02:13:46,860
And if you go, yeah, secret, no, no,

3852
02:13:47,020 --> 02:13:51,160
no bonus content, you know, nothing behind the

3853
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:52,120
paywall.

3854
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:53,120
Oh, none of that.

3855
02:13:53,500 --> 02:13:56,340
If you feel that you've received value from

3856
02:13:56,340 --> 02:13:58,440
the show, such as those, that fabulous Taylor

3857
02:13:58,440 --> 02:14:01,680
Swift segment or the Africa news, all things

3858
02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:04,020
I know we're grabbing someone's attention with that

3859
02:14:04,020 --> 02:14:04,460
somewhere.

3860
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:06,600
If you're that one, someone saying, you know,

3861
02:14:06,660 --> 02:14:08,300
I never would have known about the Gen

3862
02:14:08,300 --> 02:14:12,360
Zed takeover, the Gen Zed revolution, the color

3863
02:14:12,360 --> 02:14:15,560
revolution of the Gen Zeders across Africa, then

3864
02:14:15,560 --> 02:14:16,520
send us some value back.

3865
02:14:17,160 --> 02:14:18,040
Noagendadonations.com.

3866
02:14:18,080 --> 02:14:18,720
It's that easy.

3867
02:14:19,160 --> 02:14:21,000
We always thank everyone who supports us.

3868
02:14:21,040 --> 02:14:22,500
$50 and above for each episode.

3869
02:14:22,600 --> 02:14:24,080
Doesn't matter how much you send, as long

3870
02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:25,720
as it's value to you, it's equal to

3871
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:26,780
the value you received.

3872
02:14:27,380 --> 02:14:30,240
We love the numerology of different, different types

3873
02:14:30,240 --> 02:14:32,120
of numbers that are meaningful to you or

3874
02:14:32,120 --> 02:14:33,800
to your group or your crowd or whatever.

3875
02:14:33,960 --> 02:14:34,520
We love it all.

3876
02:14:35,080 --> 02:14:36,780
And if you're fortunate enough to support us

3877
02:14:36,780 --> 02:14:39,220
with $200 or more, we not only will

3878
02:14:39,220 --> 02:14:41,100
read your note that you send us, but

3879
02:14:41,100 --> 02:14:43,140
we also give you the official show business

3880
02:14:43,140 --> 02:14:44,920
title of associate executive producer.

3881
02:14:45,060 --> 02:14:45,680
It's a real title.

3882
02:14:45,780 --> 02:14:47,060
Go look at imdb.com.

3883
02:14:47,160 --> 02:14:48,200
People use it all the time.

3884
02:14:48,300 --> 02:14:51,540
They're over a thousand producers, $300 and above.

3885
02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:53,760
You become an executive producer for this episode

3886
02:14:53,760 --> 02:14:54,680
of the no agenda show.

3887
02:14:54,700 --> 02:14:56,940
And we kick it off with Dame Sand

3888
02:14:56,940 --> 02:14:57,300
Cat.

3889
02:14:57,760 --> 02:14:58,180
She's from.

3890
02:14:58,320 --> 02:14:59,280
Hold on a second.

3891
02:14:59,420 --> 02:14:59,640
What?

3892
02:15:00,200 --> 02:15:02,940
So I'm thinking about the Zed thing you

3893
02:15:02,940 --> 02:15:03,300
mentioned.

3894
02:15:03,640 --> 02:15:06,920
Is it possible that the Moroccan thing was

3895
02:15:06,920 --> 02:15:07,760
the first, right?

3896
02:15:07,900 --> 02:15:08,580
I believe so.

3897
02:15:08,640 --> 02:15:08,780
Yeah.

3898
02:15:09,180 --> 02:15:11,220
And that we can't associate that with bricks.

3899
02:15:11,820 --> 02:15:14,260
Is it possible that the Moroccan thing was

3900
02:15:14,260 --> 02:15:15,200
actually organic?

3901
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:18,400
And they said, look at what's happening here.

3902
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:20,220
We can, we can use that as the

3903
02:15:20,220 --> 02:15:20,600
model.

3904
02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:25,620
I don't know, because they stopped for 10

3905
02:15:25,620 --> 02:15:27,320
days and they started up again.

3906
02:15:27,500 --> 02:15:28,940
I'm, I don't know.

3907
02:15:29,500 --> 02:15:31,920
Maybe the first round was organic and they

3908
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:33,340
started it up again to see if they

3909
02:15:33,340 --> 02:15:37,400
could, if they could start it up again,

3910
02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:39,360
just as prove that the model works.

3911
02:15:39,460 --> 02:15:40,820
Well, you can know one thing.

3912
02:15:41,140 --> 02:15:43,020
Your no agenda show is on top of

3913
02:15:43,020 --> 02:15:43,180
it.

3914
02:15:43,540 --> 02:15:48,920
We are watching Africa because no one else

3915
02:15:48,920 --> 02:15:49,240
will.

3916
02:15:49,500 --> 02:15:50,640
We're watching Africa.

3917
02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:55,140
Dame Sand Cat from Parump, Nevada.

3918
02:15:55,680 --> 02:15:56,260
Parump.

3919
02:15:56,460 --> 02:15:56,920
Parump.

3920
02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:02,580
515.38, which I'm sure is $500 with

3921
02:16:02,580 --> 02:16:04,820
$15 and 38 cents.

3922
02:16:05,040 --> 02:16:07,640
By the way, did you see, I thought

3923
02:16:07,640 --> 02:16:08,440
this was a scandal.

3924
02:16:08,900 --> 02:16:11,000
Did you see what GoFundMe did that they've

3925
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:13,800
now been admitted to have done?

3926
02:16:14,660 --> 02:16:14,880
No.

3927
02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:20,620
They started over a million GoFundMe pages for

3928
02:16:20,620 --> 02:16:22,980
nonprofits who didn't sign up.

3929
02:16:22,980 --> 02:16:25,700
The nonprofits, they just got all the information

3930
02:16:25,700 --> 02:16:30,960
from IRS, from the PayPal giving big databases.

3931
02:16:31,879 --> 02:16:34,219
So if you have a nonprofit, there's a

3932
02:16:34,219 --> 02:16:38,260
high likelihood that GoFundMe has a GoFundMe page

3933
02:16:38,260 --> 02:16:38,740
for you.

3934
02:16:39,500 --> 02:16:41,520
Now, I think they do actually send the

3935
02:16:41,520 --> 02:16:42,360
money to you.

3936
02:16:42,660 --> 02:16:43,959
But you know, when you go on GoFundMe.

3937
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:44,600
You don't know that.

3938
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:47,080
Well, I've heard no one saying that they

3939
02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:48,959
haven't received the money from GoFundMe.

3940
02:16:48,959 --> 02:16:52,040
The exception people take to it is these

3941
02:16:52,040 --> 02:16:56,600
guys, they suggest a tip for GoFundMe of

3942
02:16:56,600 --> 02:16:57,120
16%.

3943
02:16:59,420 --> 02:16:59,900
Wow.

3944
02:17:00,139 --> 02:17:01,600
And it's like, it's like one of those

3945
02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:02,700
pre-check jobs.

3946
02:17:02,900 --> 02:17:04,480
Like, hey, you know, just go ahead and

3947
02:17:04,480 --> 02:17:05,160
help us out.

3948
02:17:05,240 --> 02:17:07,020
And so we can continue to grow.

3949
02:17:08,020 --> 02:17:08,500
Yeah.

3950
02:17:08,879 --> 02:17:11,900
I think this is a huge violation somehow.

3951
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:13,260
You can't just do that.

3952
02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:14,820
But they did it.

3953
02:17:14,879 --> 02:17:15,059
Yeah.

3954
02:17:15,280 --> 02:17:15,600
No.

3955
02:17:16,780 --> 02:17:17,879
So opt in.

3956
02:17:18,139 --> 02:17:19,180
As long as it's opt in.

3957
02:17:19,780 --> 02:17:20,600
What do you mean opt in?

3958
02:17:20,680 --> 02:17:22,360
They just opted everybody in.

3959
02:17:23,580 --> 02:17:24,520
I thought you said there's a thing you

3960
02:17:24,520 --> 02:17:25,100
had to check.

3961
02:17:25,540 --> 02:17:27,139
No, but forget if there's a check or

3962
02:17:27,139 --> 02:17:27,540
not.

3963
02:17:28,020 --> 02:17:30,059
They just decided to go fundraise.

3964
02:17:30,260 --> 02:17:31,559
I'm not talking about the opt in for

3965
02:17:31,559 --> 02:17:33,620
the for the donation recipient.

3966
02:17:33,920 --> 02:17:35,480
I'm talking about the opt in for the

3967
02:17:35,480 --> 02:17:35,760
16%.

3968
02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:37,580
Oh, let me take a look.

3969
02:17:37,760 --> 02:17:38,360
Let me see.

3970
02:17:38,639 --> 02:17:41,020
Let me just go to a rando GoFundMe.

3971
02:17:44,750 --> 02:17:45,930
rando GoFundMe.com.

3972
02:17:45,990 --> 02:17:46,250
Okay.

3973
02:17:46,250 --> 02:17:47,549
I'll just select one.

3974
02:17:48,889 --> 02:17:52,190
Don't they highlight one somewhere?

3975
02:17:52,770 --> 02:17:54,690
Here, please help Steven's family.

3976
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:55,110
Okay.

3977
02:17:55,850 --> 02:17:56,910
So we'll go there.

3978
02:17:57,410 --> 02:17:58,969
I'm going to hit donate now.

3979
02:18:01,129 --> 02:18:03,010
And suggested amount.

3980
02:18:04,709 --> 02:18:07,490
So I'll do 200 bucks.

3981
02:18:07,870 --> 02:18:08,889
Not really going to do it.

3982
02:18:09,910 --> 02:18:11,930
Oh, right off the bat, add $30 to

3983
02:18:11,930 --> 02:18:13,670
be in the top 5% of donors.

3984
02:18:14,350 --> 02:18:14,889
Wow.

3985
02:18:14,889 --> 02:18:15,490
Before.

3986
02:18:15,910 --> 02:18:16,870
Oh, yeah, there it is.

3987
02:18:17,030 --> 02:18:19,830
Custom tip 16.5 preselected.

3988
02:18:20,889 --> 02:18:22,290
So you have preselected.

3989
02:18:22,370 --> 02:18:22,490
Yes.

3990
02:18:22,530 --> 02:18:23,969
So you have to move the slider back

3991
02:18:23,969 --> 02:18:24,610
to zero.

3992
02:18:25,030 --> 02:18:26,870
And the minute you do that, are you

3993
02:18:26,870 --> 02:18:27,910
able to add a tip?

3994
02:18:28,170 --> 02:18:29,610
Tips keep GoFundMe running.

3995
02:18:29,670 --> 02:18:31,690
So people like Ruben can get the help

3996
02:18:31,690 --> 02:18:32,209
they need.

3997
02:18:32,650 --> 02:18:36,309
It's that slider is preselected at 16.5%.

3998
02:18:36,309 --> 02:18:38,410
So if you're not looking at it and

3999
02:18:38,410 --> 02:18:40,650
you just hit your PayPal, boom, you've already

4000
02:18:40,650 --> 02:18:41,110
paid them.

4001
02:18:41,170 --> 02:18:42,910
So it's it's opt out.

4002
02:18:45,330 --> 02:18:45,730
Scandalous.

4003
02:18:46,850 --> 02:18:47,730
That's not good.

4004
02:18:47,850 --> 02:18:48,709
No, it's scandalous.

4005
02:18:49,490 --> 02:18:51,129
So with none of that nonsense at no

4006
02:18:51,129 --> 02:18:51,549
agenda.

4007
02:18:51,709 --> 02:18:54,309
But if you send the check, that $15

4008
02:18:54,309 --> 02:18:56,709
.38 won't happen either.

4009
02:18:57,790 --> 02:18:58,290
It'll be.

4010
02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:58,670
What is it?

4011
02:18:58,730 --> 02:18:59,430
40 cents?

4012
02:18:59,790 --> 02:19:00,389
40 cents.

4013
02:19:00,469 --> 02:19:03,209
Probably depends after a couple hundred free checks.

4014
02:19:03,530 --> 02:19:03,730
Yeah.

4015
02:19:03,770 --> 02:19:05,410
And you can send it right from your

4016
02:19:05,410 --> 02:19:05,690
bank.

4017
02:19:06,070 --> 02:19:07,190
You don't have to write the check out,

4018
02:19:07,270 --> 02:19:08,469
although we'll appreciate that, too.

4019
02:19:09,110 --> 02:19:10,549
No, we like the people who write that.

4020
02:19:10,629 --> 02:19:12,629
Yes, we like because it's personalized.

4021
02:19:12,850 --> 02:19:13,330
You get it.

4022
02:19:13,330 --> 02:19:16,950
And it encourages people to write checks and

4023
02:19:16,950 --> 02:19:17,209
send.

4024
02:19:17,690 --> 02:19:19,570
We don't encourage cash because, you know, you

4025
02:19:19,570 --> 02:19:21,129
don't trust the mail that much, even though

4026
02:19:21,129 --> 02:19:22,389
it seems to work fine.

4027
02:19:22,990 --> 02:19:25,950
But the it's nice to write your signature

4028
02:19:25,950 --> 02:19:27,530
down and write the amount.

4029
02:19:27,709 --> 02:19:28,809
It gives you something to do.

4030
02:19:29,430 --> 02:19:32,709
So Dame Sandcat says this is Dame Sandcat

4031
02:19:32,709 --> 02:19:36,330
to be recognized as Secretary General of Southern

4032
02:19:36,330 --> 02:19:39,350
Nye County Land of Hookers and Blow.

4033
02:19:40,049 --> 02:19:40,549
And indeed.

4034
02:19:40,770 --> 02:19:41,170
Is that right?

4035
02:19:41,170 --> 02:19:43,330
That's the land of hookers and blow.

4036
02:19:43,549 --> 02:19:44,809
That's the land of hookers and blow.

4037
02:19:45,490 --> 02:19:47,389
And this is the last opportunity.

4038
02:19:47,549 --> 02:19:50,030
These will be our last secretaries general, I

4039
02:19:50,030 --> 02:19:50,430
believe.

4040
02:19:50,970 --> 02:19:52,330
Is the promotion over now?

4041
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:56,430
The promotion will be over after midnight tonight.

4042
02:19:56,870 --> 02:19:57,210
After midnight.

4043
02:19:57,550 --> 02:19:59,610
Get your order up.

4044
02:20:00,370 --> 02:20:02,350
And she says, Rev Owl, please.

4045
02:20:06,050 --> 02:20:08,150
R-E-S-P-I-C-T.

4046
02:20:08,470 --> 02:20:08,910
It was funny.

4047
02:20:09,030 --> 02:20:10,630
One of our producers went to the.

4048
02:20:11,330 --> 02:20:14,390
He sent me like 50 pictures from the

4049
02:20:14,390 --> 02:20:19,370
no kings protest that he went to and

4050
02:20:19,370 --> 02:20:20,690
he sent a picture because he had a

4051
02:20:20,690 --> 02:20:21,050
sign.

4052
02:20:22,330 --> 02:20:23,970
And he had a because everyone had handmade

4053
02:20:23,970 --> 02:20:24,630
signs.

4054
02:20:24,830 --> 02:20:26,890
He had a sign that said, resist we

4055
02:20:26,890 --> 02:20:29,890
much and we must much, much about that

4056
02:20:29,890 --> 02:20:30,590
be committed.

4057
02:20:30,590 --> 02:20:34,570
He's walking around with a great deal.

4058
02:20:34,890 --> 02:20:35,450
Thank you very much.

4059
02:20:35,530 --> 02:20:36,210
Dame Sandcat.

4060
02:20:37,530 --> 02:20:41,170
Sir Henry in Austin, Texas, right where you

4061
02:20:41,170 --> 02:20:41,870
used to live.

4062
02:20:42,650 --> 02:20:43,510
500 bucks.

4063
02:20:43,610 --> 02:20:45,070
I.T.M. With this donation, I would

4064
02:20:45,070 --> 02:20:47,650
like to be I.T.M. With this

4065
02:20:47,650 --> 02:20:48,130
donation.

4066
02:20:48,230 --> 02:20:48,730
That's funny.

4067
02:20:49,530 --> 02:20:51,810
It's actually says I.T.M. Period.

4068
02:20:52,470 --> 02:20:54,570
With this donation, I would like to become

4069
02:20:54,570 --> 02:20:56,750
the secretary general of Shangri-La.

4070
02:20:57,210 --> 02:20:57,590
Nice.

4071
02:20:57,950 --> 02:20:58,430
Congratulations.

4072
02:20:58,890 --> 02:20:59,650
Shangri-La.

4073
02:20:59,850 --> 02:21:00,190
That's good.

4074
02:21:00,190 --> 02:21:02,310
Sir Henry Baron of Flowerland.

4075
02:21:02,710 --> 02:21:03,470
Flower field.

4076
02:21:04,750 --> 02:21:06,050
Oh, flower field.

4077
02:21:06,290 --> 02:21:07,410
I don't know how you got flower land.

4078
02:21:07,610 --> 02:21:09,350
Well, because there's a there's a place down

4079
02:21:09,350 --> 02:21:11,730
the street from me called Flowerland.

4080
02:21:13,450 --> 02:21:14,970
And it just sticks in my brain.

4081
02:21:15,110 --> 02:21:16,010
I see that flower part.

4082
02:21:16,130 --> 02:21:19,390
I see land automatically appears in my brain.

4083
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:21,470
We shall make it so later on.

4084
02:21:21,610 --> 02:21:23,310
And Sir Dan, the man checks in.

4085
02:21:23,390 --> 02:21:24,830
Haven't heard from him in a while with

4086
02:21:24,830 --> 02:21:25,590
500 dollars.

4087
02:21:26,050 --> 02:21:28,070
He says congratulations on 18 years.

4088
02:21:28,070 --> 02:21:30,110
I would like to be named secretary general

4089
02:21:30,110 --> 02:21:31,730
of the Sunshine State.

4090
02:21:32,170 --> 02:21:33,310
Thank you for your courage.

4091
02:21:33,430 --> 02:21:35,550
Sir Dan, the man Earl of Southwest Florida.

4092
02:21:35,650 --> 02:21:36,430
You got it.

4093
02:21:36,730 --> 02:21:37,170
Well.

4094
02:21:39,450 --> 02:21:39,890
North.

4095
02:21:40,110 --> 02:21:43,070
Oh, here's our North Idaho Sanity Brigade.

4096
02:21:43,690 --> 02:21:46,090
Post Falls, Idaho, three, three, three, three, three.

4097
02:21:46,130 --> 02:21:48,230
On behalf of the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.

4098
02:21:48,590 --> 02:21:51,470
Here is a crowd funded magic number donation

4099
02:21:51,470 --> 02:21:53,870
courtesy of many of their attendees.

4100
02:21:53,870 --> 02:21:58,490
A piling various amounts of cash into the

4101
02:21:58,490 --> 02:21:59,390
center of the table.

4102
02:21:59,690 --> 02:21:59,910
Nice.

4103
02:22:00,150 --> 02:22:00,630
Nice.

4104
02:22:00,890 --> 02:22:01,890
Thank you.

4105
02:22:02,090 --> 02:22:02,770
I'm all in.

4106
02:22:02,870 --> 02:22:06,510
Yeah, we have released the debut episode of

4107
02:22:06,510 --> 02:22:09,090
our new hybrid hyperlocal podcast.

4108
02:22:09,190 --> 02:22:12,450
No ID as in North Idaho.

4109
02:22:12,590 --> 02:22:13,210
No ID.

4110
02:22:13,330 --> 02:22:13,770
Oh, cool.

4111
02:22:13,870 --> 02:22:14,530
I like it.

4112
02:22:14,650 --> 02:22:14,890
Get it.

4113
02:22:15,170 --> 02:22:16,290
North Idaho, dude.

4114
02:22:17,070 --> 02:22:21,250
But also as in screw your cabal issued

4115
02:22:21,250 --> 02:22:23,750
digital social credit credential thing.

4116
02:22:25,270 --> 02:22:27,890
Every region should have its own no agenda

4117
02:22:27,890 --> 02:22:31,930
because every region has a mainstream apparatus that

4118
02:22:31,930 --> 02:22:36,310
propagate propagandizes requiring deconstruction.

4119
02:22:36,870 --> 02:22:40,590
Heed Adam's call like we did start a

4120
02:22:40,590 --> 02:22:41,570
hyperlocal podcast.

4121
02:22:41,950 --> 02:22:44,510
Thanks, Podfather, for the inspiration.

4122
02:22:44,930 --> 02:22:48,150
Sir Scott, the Jew and the North Idaho

4123
02:22:48,150 --> 02:22:49,390
Sanity Brigade.

4124
02:22:49,630 --> 02:22:50,670
Oh, this is very interesting.

4125
02:22:50,670 --> 02:22:53,370
I would love to host a no agenda

4126
02:22:53,370 --> 02:22:55,470
network of hyperlocal podcasts.

4127
02:22:55,790 --> 02:22:58,130
I happen to have the software for it.

4128
02:22:58,850 --> 02:23:01,210
So and what you missed out on Sir

4129
02:23:01,210 --> 02:23:03,770
Scott, the Jew and the North Idaho Sanity

4130
02:23:03,770 --> 02:23:05,010
Brigade is you didn't tell me where to

4131
02:23:05,010 --> 02:23:05,810
find the podcast.

4132
02:23:06,130 --> 02:23:07,350
Is it just no ID?

4133
02:23:07,550 --> 02:23:09,370
Can I just find that in every podcast

4134
02:23:09,370 --> 02:23:09,670
app?

4135
02:23:09,710 --> 02:23:11,630
Is it on the is on the index?

4136
02:23:11,710 --> 02:23:12,170
Let me know.

4137
02:23:12,390 --> 02:23:14,370
I would be more than happy to create

4138
02:23:14,370 --> 02:23:16,230
the no agenda podcast network.

4139
02:23:16,290 --> 02:23:17,750
I think it's a grand idea.

4140
02:23:18,390 --> 02:23:19,070
Very good.

4141
02:23:20,030 --> 02:23:22,930
And Sir Commodore J Stroke from Norton, Ohio,

4142
02:23:23,090 --> 02:23:25,610
comes in with an associate executive producer credit

4143
02:23:25,610 --> 02:23:28,230
for his 234.16 cents.

4144
02:23:28,890 --> 02:23:30,830
ITM came across Citizen.

4145
02:23:31,990 --> 02:23:34,190
HTTPS citizen portal dot AI.

4146
02:23:34,970 --> 02:23:36,930
It's a service in which you get AI

4147
02:23:36,930 --> 02:23:39,590
generated summaries of local government meetings.

4148
02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:42,290
Not sure if you've heard of it.

4149
02:23:42,430 --> 02:23:44,710
Oh, that's actually interesting.

4150
02:23:45,050 --> 02:23:45,750
Is it free?

4151
02:23:45,870 --> 02:23:47,230
How do they do this stuff for free?

4152
02:23:47,390 --> 02:23:48,110
I got to wonder.

4153
02:23:49,070 --> 02:23:50,110
Adam, your recommendation.

4154
02:23:50,370 --> 02:23:52,730
Here we go again on hyperlocal podcast made

4155
02:23:52,730 --> 02:23:54,530
me seek out ways to be more informed

4156
02:23:54,530 --> 02:23:56,690
locally, even if not doing a podcast, which

4157
02:23:56,690 --> 02:23:57,630
is how I found it.

4158
02:23:58,250 --> 02:24:00,110
Seems like the best use of AI that

4159
02:24:00,110 --> 02:24:00,490
I've seen.

4160
02:24:00,570 --> 02:24:02,350
It helps keep me just an average husband,

4161
02:24:02,510 --> 02:24:04,230
father and night stay in the know on

4162
02:24:04,230 --> 02:24:04,850
local government.

4163
02:24:04,950 --> 02:24:06,530
I've been using it to follow a proposed

4164
02:24:06,530 --> 02:24:08,250
data center development in my town.

4165
02:24:08,590 --> 02:24:09,110
Check it out.

4166
02:24:09,530 --> 02:24:11,210
If you're interested, I know you guys are

4167
02:24:11,210 --> 02:24:13,110
swamped with no agenda and doing around as

4168
02:24:13,110 --> 02:24:14,250
podcast guests.

4169
02:24:15,390 --> 02:24:18,190
Yeah, boy, we're so busy with the podcast

4170
02:24:18,190 --> 02:24:18,790
guesting.

4171
02:24:19,070 --> 02:24:20,990
But I felt obliged to share.

4172
02:24:21,210 --> 02:24:22,510
I can hear John commenting.

4173
02:24:22,850 --> 02:24:25,110
I wish you were obliged to send donations.

4174
02:24:25,290 --> 02:24:25,770
So I did.

4175
02:24:26,430 --> 02:24:29,210
Please accept my PayPal donation of 234 16

4176
02:24:29,210 --> 02:24:30,250
for the show plus fees.

4177
02:24:30,690 --> 02:24:32,530
Do you think the constant berating of donors

4178
02:24:32,530 --> 02:24:34,710
is directly is directed incorrectly?

4179
02:24:35,190 --> 02:24:37,410
Shouldn't you berate the listeners who aren't donors?

4180
02:24:37,870 --> 02:24:39,890
Maybe it's just semantics, but words are a

4181
02:24:39,890 --> 02:24:40,730
weapon these days.

4182
02:24:40,990 --> 02:24:41,590
Thank you.

4183
02:24:41,690 --> 02:24:43,030
This is a very good point.

4184
02:24:43,430 --> 02:24:45,390
And someone else made that point to me.

4185
02:24:45,990 --> 02:24:48,430
Someone said, hey, man, like I don't.

4186
02:24:48,790 --> 02:24:53,190
I think we should say specifically that it's

4187
02:24:53,190 --> 02:24:55,770
the people who listen, but aren't donating who

4188
02:24:55,770 --> 02:24:56,510
we are berating.

4189
02:24:56,650 --> 02:24:58,870
I don't think we're berating our our existing

4190
02:24:58,870 --> 02:24:59,370
donors.

4191
02:24:59,390 --> 02:24:59,790
Do you?

4192
02:24:59,910 --> 02:25:02,570
I don't think that's everybody berate everybody evenly.

4193
02:25:03,250 --> 02:25:04,690
I don't see a problem.

4194
02:25:05,950 --> 02:25:08,490
When you have 800,000 people listening and

4195
02:25:08,490 --> 02:25:11,050
only 50,000 rating any of the dukes

4196
02:25:11,050 --> 02:25:12,830
that I know of.

4197
02:25:12,970 --> 02:25:14,370
No, I don't berate people.

4198
02:25:14,370 --> 02:25:17,770
Are we berating the donors today?

4199
02:25:17,870 --> 02:25:18,510
I don't think so.

4200
02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:21,170
If I get any emails about you, I

4201
02:25:21,170 --> 02:25:24,490
would say 85 percent about your bitching and

4202
02:25:24,490 --> 02:25:28,070
moaning and and and complaining about donations.

4203
02:25:28,390 --> 02:25:31,330
What people don't understand is if you don't

4204
02:25:31,330 --> 02:25:32,650
do that, guess what happens?

4205
02:25:33,270 --> 02:25:33,630
Nothing.

4206
02:25:33,830 --> 02:25:35,290
You know, we get no donations.

4207
02:25:35,510 --> 02:25:36,290
That's exactly right.

4208
02:25:36,290 --> 02:25:37,290
You got to bitch and moan.

4209
02:25:37,490 --> 02:25:39,570
Bitching and moaning is part of the process.

4210
02:25:39,970 --> 02:25:40,370
Come on.

4211
02:25:40,410 --> 02:25:42,050
This is the reason that we get donations

4212
02:25:42,050 --> 02:25:42,710
at all.

4213
02:25:43,190 --> 02:25:44,190
It's part of them.

4214
02:25:44,470 --> 02:25:45,270
Well, what are you going to come out

4215
02:25:45,270 --> 02:25:46,870
and say, hey, oh, we got a lot

4216
02:25:46,870 --> 02:25:47,090
of dough.

4217
02:25:47,170 --> 02:25:47,950
Oh, that's great.

4218
02:25:48,010 --> 02:25:49,430
You guys, you're doing it.

4219
02:25:49,430 --> 02:25:50,490
This is fabulous.

4220
02:25:50,630 --> 02:25:53,470
We're getting these donations and don't worry about

4221
02:25:53,470 --> 02:25:53,770
it.

4222
02:25:56,310 --> 02:25:58,730
Maybe some yak karma could do some good,

4223
02:25:58,830 --> 02:26:00,390
says Sir Commodore J Stroke.

4224
02:26:00,490 --> 02:26:01,030
Well, we agree.

4225
02:26:01,150 --> 02:26:02,030
Thank you very much.

4226
02:26:02,150 --> 02:26:06,350
You've got karma.

4227
02:26:07,470 --> 02:26:08,690
Bitching and moaning works.

4228
02:26:08,750 --> 02:26:09,950
It's part of the process.

4229
02:26:10,850 --> 02:26:11,470
It is.

4230
02:26:12,130 --> 02:26:15,430
Welcome to Podcasting 101 with Adam C.

4231
02:26:15,530 --> 02:26:16,450
Curry and John C.

4232
02:26:16,530 --> 02:26:16,930
Dvorak.

4233
02:26:17,590 --> 02:26:19,590
Today we talk about donations.

4234
02:26:19,890 --> 02:26:22,250
John, what is the crux of the donation

4235
02:26:22,250 --> 02:26:23,750
value for value model?

4236
02:26:24,670 --> 02:26:25,830
Complaining a lot.

4237
02:26:27,870 --> 02:26:28,430
Boom.

4238
02:26:28,950 --> 02:26:30,350
We don't get enough money.

4239
02:26:30,550 --> 02:26:31,230
There it is.

4240
02:26:31,910 --> 02:26:32,790
There it is.

4241
02:26:33,330 --> 02:26:34,130
And you know what?

4242
02:26:34,410 --> 02:26:35,530
A lot of people have a problem.

4243
02:26:35,590 --> 02:26:39,110
I think people are embarrassed because they know

4244
02:26:39,110 --> 02:26:40,230
they could never do it.

4245
02:26:41,470 --> 02:26:42,470
They could never do it.

4246
02:26:42,490 --> 02:26:43,850
Oh, you mean they can't bitch and moan?

4247
02:26:43,970 --> 02:26:46,550
No, they can't bitch and moan about donations.

4248
02:26:46,610 --> 02:26:47,510
Well, this is the problem.

4249
02:26:47,610 --> 02:26:48,970
We would notice this, by the way, for

4250
02:26:48,970 --> 02:26:50,350
you out there that think you're going to

4251
02:26:50,350 --> 02:26:52,230
be able to pull off value for value.

4252
02:26:52,870 --> 02:26:54,330
You do have to have some sincerity.

4253
02:26:54,690 --> 02:26:56,510
Do you want the money or not?

4254
02:26:57,450 --> 02:26:57,750
Yes.

4255
02:26:57,990 --> 02:26:59,610
It's called asking for the money.

4256
02:26:59,910 --> 02:27:00,090
Yes.

4257
02:27:00,190 --> 02:27:01,510
It's also biblical.

4258
02:27:01,710 --> 02:27:03,610
If you think about it, the asking ye

4259
02:27:03,610 --> 02:27:04,350
shall receive.

4260
02:27:04,550 --> 02:27:06,590
If you don't ask, you don't get it.

4261
02:27:06,710 --> 02:27:09,190
Whoa, you just threw some biblical scripture out.

4262
02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:09,550
Beautiful.

4263
02:27:09,730 --> 02:27:10,890
Oh, yeah, that's scripture.

4264
02:27:10,890 --> 02:27:11,590
It is.

4265
02:27:12,170 --> 02:27:14,490
So the point is, is that you have

4266
02:27:14,490 --> 02:27:17,070
to be sincere about, look, we need the

4267
02:27:17,070 --> 02:27:17,250
money.

4268
02:27:17,590 --> 02:27:19,610
Look, the show doesn't pay for itself.

4269
02:27:20,090 --> 02:27:21,130
We have bills.

4270
02:27:21,470 --> 02:27:22,250
We do the show.

4271
02:27:22,330 --> 02:27:24,290
This is a full time job, basically.

4272
02:27:24,290 --> 02:27:25,590
And we need some help here.

4273
02:27:25,790 --> 02:27:26,990
And that's all we're doing.

4274
02:27:27,050 --> 02:27:30,450
It's not like we're berating any one person.

4275
02:27:30,690 --> 02:27:32,510
You, Jim out there, you didn't give us

4276
02:27:32,510 --> 02:27:32,990
any money.

4277
02:27:34,890 --> 02:27:36,490
You know, there is a Jim that's never

4278
02:27:36,490 --> 02:27:37,210
given us money.

4279
02:27:37,210 --> 02:27:39,170
You know what I think a lot of

4280
02:27:39,170 --> 02:27:42,650
people, certainly for me, a lot of people

4281
02:27:42,650 --> 02:27:44,550
think, you're rich, Curry.

4282
02:27:45,230 --> 02:27:46,350
You were on television.

4283
02:27:46,830 --> 02:27:49,250
You, Dvorak, you sold millions of books.

4284
02:27:49,610 --> 02:27:50,970
See, I think they think that we're loaded

4285
02:27:50,970 --> 02:27:52,450
and we're just doing this as a hobby.

4286
02:27:52,750 --> 02:27:53,570
For fun.

4287
02:27:54,330 --> 02:27:55,990
No, it's cash flow.

4288
02:27:56,130 --> 02:27:56,870
Yeah, cash flow.

4289
02:27:56,890 --> 02:27:57,590
We're not loaded.

4290
02:27:57,750 --> 02:27:58,550
Neither one of us.

4291
02:27:58,550 --> 02:28:00,330
We live on cash flow, basically.

4292
02:28:00,610 --> 02:28:00,870
We do.

4293
02:28:00,990 --> 02:28:02,910
We live by the ebb and flow of

4294
02:28:02,910 --> 02:28:03,050
cash.

4295
02:28:03,050 --> 02:28:04,230
If we were rich, we'd be, you know,

4296
02:28:04,310 --> 02:28:05,170
we wouldn't have this.

4297
02:28:05,170 --> 02:28:07,270
Our attitude is not that of a rich

4298
02:28:07,270 --> 02:28:07,770
person.

4299
02:28:07,930 --> 02:28:08,570
Either one of us.

4300
02:28:08,650 --> 02:28:09,370
No, I don't think so.

4301
02:28:09,510 --> 02:28:10,570
I don't think that, no.

4302
02:28:11,070 --> 02:28:11,790
You know who's rich?

4303
02:28:11,930 --> 02:28:12,590
Dana Brunetti.

4304
02:28:12,870 --> 02:28:13,870
And what does he donate?

4305
02:28:14,090 --> 02:28:14,430
Nothing.

4306
02:28:15,570 --> 02:28:16,750
Dana Brunetti is rich.

4307
02:28:16,950 --> 02:28:17,130
Yeah.

4308
02:28:17,350 --> 02:28:20,230
And he has a big giant ranch.

4309
02:28:20,430 --> 02:28:20,590
Yeah.

4310
02:28:20,770 --> 02:28:22,450
And when's the last time he donated?

4311
02:28:23,650 --> 02:28:26,270
Well, he relies on other people to donate

4312
02:28:26,270 --> 02:28:28,930
in his name at levels that he doesn't

4313
02:28:28,930 --> 02:28:29,410
appreciate.

4314
02:28:32,490 --> 02:28:33,710
Let's move on, shall we?

4315
02:28:34,810 --> 02:28:36,610
Onward with, oh, I'm sorry.

4316
02:28:36,690 --> 02:28:37,390
You got that one.

4317
02:28:37,570 --> 02:28:38,930
Stephen Trockels is here.

4318
02:28:39,490 --> 02:28:40,850
Or it's possibly Stefan.

4319
02:28:42,110 --> 02:28:43,650
I think it's Stefan.

4320
02:28:44,290 --> 02:28:44,990
It might be.

4321
02:28:45,190 --> 02:28:46,730
Stefan Trockels from Parts Unknown.

4322
02:28:47,410 --> 02:28:51,790
Double up karma for my nephew named, what

4323
02:28:51,790 --> 02:28:52,330
does that say?

4324
02:28:52,410 --> 02:28:52,750
Bali.

4325
02:28:53,030 --> 02:28:53,350
Bali.

4326
02:28:53,550 --> 02:28:53,790
Bali?

4327
02:28:54,430 --> 02:28:54,750
Yes.

4328
02:28:54,870 --> 02:28:58,110
Who recently completed his first trip, oh, around

4329
02:28:58,110 --> 02:29:01,230
the sun, having accumulated so many miles in

4330
02:29:01,230 --> 02:29:04,250
an airplane, he might as well be Generation

4331
02:29:04,250 --> 02:29:05,810
Delta Airlines.

4332
02:29:06,230 --> 02:29:07,210
Delta Airlines.

4333
02:29:07,490 --> 02:29:07,650
Get it?

4334
02:29:07,770 --> 02:29:08,410
Yeah, I get it.

4335
02:29:11,250 --> 02:29:11,730
Sorry.

4336
02:29:14,550 --> 02:29:15,850
You've been de-douched.

4337
02:29:15,850 --> 02:29:16,110
Sorry.

4338
02:29:16,470 --> 02:29:17,890
Accidental de-douching.

4339
02:29:18,090 --> 02:29:18,470
There we go.

4340
02:29:18,550 --> 02:29:19,410
And by the way, he came in with

4341
02:29:19,410 --> 02:29:20,030
222.

4342
02:29:21,370 --> 02:29:21,850
21019.

4343
02:29:22,450 --> 02:29:24,410
Eli the Coffee Guy always adds the date.

4344
02:29:24,530 --> 02:29:25,410
1019 today.

4345
02:29:25,570 --> 02:29:26,750
200 plus 1019.

4346
02:29:26,930 --> 02:29:29,330
He says, lots of goings on around the

4347
02:29:29,330 --> 02:29:29,590
globe.

4348
02:29:29,590 --> 02:29:32,930
Good thing we have AstroTurf protests and John

4349
02:29:32,930 --> 02:29:35,350
Bolton's mustache for the media here to talk

4350
02:29:35,350 --> 02:29:35,670
about.

4351
02:29:36,210 --> 02:29:38,830
Gentlemen, thank you for the excellent media deconstruction.

4352
02:29:38,930 --> 02:29:39,710
Keep up the great work.

4353
02:29:39,970 --> 02:29:41,890
And I'm happy to keep you caffeinated.

4354
02:29:42,030 --> 02:29:44,330
Actually, we're happy to keep everyone in Gitmo

4355
02:29:44,330 --> 02:29:45,250
Nation caffeinated.

4356
02:29:45,670 --> 02:29:49,250
Just visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20

4357
02:29:49,250 --> 02:29:50,650
for 20% off your order.

4358
02:29:51,070 --> 02:29:54,090
Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.

4359
02:29:54,170 --> 02:29:56,590
And I will say our guests love the

4360
02:29:56,590 --> 02:29:57,470
gigawatts.

4361
02:29:57,470 --> 02:29:59,490
They will be purchasing their own.

4362
02:29:59,650 --> 02:30:01,430
You know, I was selling for them this

4363
02:30:01,430 --> 02:30:01,550
morning.

4364
02:30:01,630 --> 02:30:02,310
Check this out.

4365
02:30:02,590 --> 02:30:03,450
Check this coffee.

4366
02:30:03,490 --> 02:30:04,490
You think you got good coffee?

4367
02:30:04,710 --> 02:30:07,970
You don't have the official gigawattcoffeeroasters coffee.

4368
02:30:08,430 --> 02:30:11,250
By the way, his Ethiopian Guji, well, organic,

4369
02:30:11,390 --> 02:30:13,170
whatever it is that he promoted a couple

4370
02:30:13,170 --> 02:30:13,850
shows ago.

4371
02:30:13,930 --> 02:30:14,130
Yeah.

4372
02:30:14,550 --> 02:30:16,090
I finally opened the bag and put it

4373
02:30:16,090 --> 02:30:16,650
in the machine.

4374
02:30:17,530 --> 02:30:18,410
It's outstanding.

4375
02:30:18,690 --> 02:30:18,830
Yeah.

4376
02:30:18,870 --> 02:30:21,110
He makes a good product, he and Jen

4377
02:30:21,110 --> 02:30:21,650
together.

4378
02:30:22,770 --> 02:30:24,610
I would like to see a picture of

4379
02:30:24,610 --> 02:30:27,390
his roaster with him standing next to it.

4380
02:30:27,470 --> 02:30:30,330
I want to see you lots of people's

4381
02:30:30,330 --> 02:30:30,730
roasters.

4382
02:30:33,230 --> 02:30:37,710
This next letter is from Baron OG Godcaster,

4383
02:30:37,830 --> 02:30:39,410
and he wants you to read this note,

4384
02:30:39,490 --> 02:30:40,110
please.

4385
02:30:40,450 --> 02:30:42,710
This must be Steve Webb, because there's only

4386
02:30:42,710 --> 02:30:44,210
one OG Godcaster.

4387
02:30:46,610 --> 02:30:49,390
$200.77, message received.

4388
02:30:49,530 --> 02:30:50,350
In the morning, fellas.

4389
02:30:50,890 --> 02:30:53,390
I just launched a new show called Versus

4390
02:30:53,390 --> 02:30:55,930
We Missed, and I want to invite Gitmo

4391
02:30:55,930 --> 02:30:56,970
Nation to check it out.

4392
02:30:57,530 --> 02:30:59,550
It's a short weekly show that looks into

4393
02:30:59,550 --> 02:31:01,690
those Bible verses you may have read before,

4394
02:31:01,830 --> 02:31:03,390
but maybe didn't really see.

4395
02:31:03,850 --> 02:31:05,770
There's a lot of treasure under the surface.

4396
02:31:06,350 --> 02:31:08,250
Find the show in your podcast app or

4397
02:31:08,250 --> 02:31:10,570
at VersusWeMissed.com.

4398
02:31:11,050 --> 02:31:12,970
And please credit this, yes, it is from

4399
02:31:12,970 --> 02:31:13,210
Steve.

4400
02:31:13,530 --> 02:31:16,070
Please credit this donation to the lovely Leanne,

4401
02:31:16,490 --> 02:31:17,690
Lady Leanne, I should say.

4402
02:31:17,930 --> 02:31:19,330
And if you would, pray for her.

4403
02:31:19,410 --> 02:31:21,130
She took a nasty fall this past Thursday

4404
02:31:21,130 --> 02:31:23,190
and needed six staples in her scalp.

4405
02:31:23,310 --> 02:31:24,230
Oy, ouch.

4406
02:31:24,250 --> 02:31:24,630
Ouch.

4407
02:31:24,970 --> 02:31:25,890
Ouch, yes.

4408
02:31:25,890 --> 02:31:27,770
Prayer flare received.

4409
02:31:27,970 --> 02:31:28,590
Love you guys.

4410
02:31:28,930 --> 02:31:30,530
May God bless you richly.

4411
02:31:30,670 --> 02:31:31,010
All right.

4412
02:31:31,110 --> 02:31:32,970
And that will also go in our new

4413
02:31:32,970 --> 02:31:36,830
No Agenda network system.

4414
02:31:37,450 --> 02:31:38,310
I'm going to start this.

4415
02:31:38,390 --> 02:31:38,810
I like this.

4416
02:31:39,010 --> 02:31:41,890
Hyperlocal podcast, and this one belongs in it

4417
02:31:41,890 --> 02:31:42,210
as well.

4418
02:31:43,470 --> 02:31:48,050
So after proving the point about complaining, I

4419
02:31:48,050 --> 02:31:51,310
complain every so often about the Irish never

4420
02:31:51,310 --> 02:31:52,650
donating to the show.

4421
02:31:52,810 --> 02:31:53,470
They're no good.

4422
02:31:53,970 --> 02:31:56,990
And Peter McClay comes in from Dublin.

4423
02:31:57,170 --> 02:31:57,670
There we go.

4424
02:31:58,130 --> 02:32:00,930
$200 and 18 cents, no note, but he

4425
02:32:00,930 --> 02:32:02,430
will give him a double up karma.

4426
02:32:02,710 --> 02:32:04,730
Yeah, proof that moaning works.

4427
02:32:05,150 --> 02:32:08,530
You've got karma.

4428
02:32:09,030 --> 02:32:10,610
Why don't you do Linda and then I'll

4429
02:32:10,610 --> 02:32:11,810
do the long one because they want me

4430
02:32:11,810 --> 02:32:12,770
to read that one.

4431
02:32:14,330 --> 02:32:15,630
Oh, no, I'm sorry.

4432
02:32:15,910 --> 02:32:17,190
No, I'm sorry.

4433
02:32:17,290 --> 02:32:18,530
That long one isn't even a two.

4434
02:32:18,630 --> 02:32:19,510
Oh, it's from Canada.

4435
02:32:19,670 --> 02:32:20,530
It is a Canada.

4436
02:32:20,690 --> 02:32:21,150
You're right.

4437
02:32:21,210 --> 02:32:21,570
It is.

4438
02:32:21,670 --> 02:32:21,870
Yes.

4439
02:32:21,870 --> 02:32:23,690
Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado.

4440
02:32:23,870 --> 02:32:27,470
$200 jobs, karma for a competitive edge with

4441
02:32:27,470 --> 02:32:28,510
a resume that gets results.

4442
02:32:28,550 --> 02:32:33,190
Go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive

4443
02:32:33,190 --> 02:32:35,710
resume and job search needs.

4444
02:32:35,770 --> 02:32:37,090
I'm doing a little modulation here.

4445
02:32:37,170 --> 02:32:37,730
Yeah, I can tell.

4446
02:32:37,910 --> 02:32:39,430
And job search needs.

4447
02:32:39,870 --> 02:32:42,750
That's imagemakersinc with a K.

4448
02:32:43,210 --> 02:32:44,790
And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs

4449
02:32:44,790 --> 02:32:46,970
and writer of winning resumes.

4450
02:32:47,210 --> 02:32:47,430
$200.

4451
02:32:47,770 --> 02:32:49,310
So I was talking to Vic because he

4452
02:32:49,310 --> 02:32:50,170
actually does sell.

4453
02:32:50,170 --> 02:32:53,690
He's in the sales chain, like the corporate

4454
02:32:53,690 --> 02:32:54,110
sales.

4455
02:32:54,470 --> 02:32:56,190
He actually does sell, like we don't.

4456
02:32:56,410 --> 02:32:56,690
No, no.

4457
02:32:56,770 --> 02:32:58,330
But no, that's not what I mean.

4458
02:32:59,190 --> 02:33:03,170
So a lot of his clients are the

4459
02:33:03,170 --> 02:33:03,770
sales.

4460
02:33:03,870 --> 02:33:06,070
If you're in like the Microsoft sales chain

4461
02:33:06,070 --> 02:33:09,590
and you sell, let's just say SharePoint or

4462
02:33:09,590 --> 02:33:11,470
whatever, you get a perpetual.

4463
02:33:11,670 --> 02:33:14,210
So as long as that company is using

4464
02:33:14,210 --> 02:33:16,910
the product, you as the in-between guy

4465
02:33:16,910 --> 02:33:18,470
in the sales chain, you get like 10

4466
02:33:18,470 --> 02:33:19,410
or 15 percent.

4467
02:33:19,990 --> 02:33:20,270
Yeah.

4468
02:33:20,530 --> 02:33:22,710
It's an unbelievable business.

4469
02:33:23,330 --> 02:33:24,110
Yeah, it's great.

4470
02:33:24,450 --> 02:33:27,310
And so he has, yeah, it's great.

4471
02:33:27,730 --> 02:33:31,250
He has a number of clients and we

4472
02:33:31,250 --> 02:33:35,130
were talking about use of AI for resumes.

4473
02:33:36,210 --> 02:33:38,590
And it turns out the number one thing

4474
02:33:38,590 --> 02:33:40,510
that you can really do with AI for

4475
02:33:40,510 --> 02:33:43,110
your resumes that will actually, and I'd love

4476
02:33:43,110 --> 02:33:44,870
to hear from Linda Lou Patkin on this,

4477
02:33:45,250 --> 02:33:47,930
is have AI do your headshot.

4478
02:33:49,490 --> 02:33:52,010
That's, and make sure your headshot is the

4479
02:33:52,010 --> 02:33:53,130
one you use on LinkedIn.

4480
02:33:53,890 --> 02:33:56,290
There's a couple of AI products that do

4481
02:33:56,290 --> 02:33:57,350
headshots for you.

4482
02:33:57,390 --> 02:33:58,570
Oh, see, it doesn't surprise me.

4483
02:33:59,330 --> 02:34:00,030
Yeah, there's a couple.

4484
02:34:00,170 --> 02:34:01,910
And they take your, you give them a

4485
02:34:01,910 --> 02:34:05,130
couple of photos and it'll create a perfect

4486
02:34:05,130 --> 02:34:08,010
headshot with the right background and the whole

4487
02:34:08,010 --> 02:34:08,190
thing.

4488
02:34:08,250 --> 02:34:09,770
It makes you look very professional.

4489
02:34:11,170 --> 02:34:12,570
And then I think we talked about it

4490
02:34:12,570 --> 02:34:13,210
on the show before.

4491
02:34:13,430 --> 02:34:14,050
Not that part.

4492
02:34:14,110 --> 02:34:15,090
I don't remember that part.

4493
02:34:15,230 --> 02:34:16,410
Maybe I've seen it.

4494
02:34:16,590 --> 02:34:18,630
It's been pointed out a couple of times.

4495
02:34:18,630 --> 02:34:19,490
They look good.

4496
02:34:19,890 --> 02:34:25,730
Sarah Nielsen comes in with $157.97, which

4497
02:34:25,730 --> 02:34:28,870
was 200 Canadian dollar reduce.

4498
02:34:29,090 --> 02:34:31,470
So we do honor that.

4499
02:34:31,830 --> 02:34:34,270
It's getting increasingly difficult, but we honor it.

4500
02:34:34,310 --> 02:34:38,010
She's from Val Morin, Quebec in Canada.

4501
02:34:38,590 --> 02:34:40,470
And she said, I hope this message finds

4502
02:34:40,470 --> 02:34:40,810
you well.

4503
02:34:41,030 --> 02:34:43,070
Adam, if you could, if possible, could you

4504
02:34:43,070 --> 02:34:45,710
try a Danish accent for this note?

4505
02:34:46,170 --> 02:34:47,550
If not, Dutch would work.

4506
02:34:47,750 --> 02:34:48,050
Danish.

4507
02:34:49,010 --> 02:34:51,030
Well, my Danish sounds a bit like my

4508
02:34:51,030 --> 02:34:52,450
Swedish, but I'll give it a shot.

4509
02:34:52,710 --> 02:34:54,670
I would like to to wish my smoking

4510
02:34:54,670 --> 02:34:58,590
hot husband, Alex, a happy 33, oops, I

4511
02:34:58,590 --> 02:35:01,430
mean 47th birthday today, October 19th.

4512
02:35:02,250 --> 02:35:03,850
What do you do when your husband and

4513
02:35:03,850 --> 02:35:05,910
your own birthday falls on a show day

4514
02:35:05,910 --> 02:35:06,970
all in the same week?

4515
02:35:07,370 --> 02:35:09,030
I will have to do like him and

4516
02:35:09,030 --> 02:35:09,470
donate.

4517
02:35:10,090 --> 02:35:12,950
May this $210.19 Canadian.

4518
02:35:13,490 --> 02:35:14,510
What am I doing?

4519
02:35:15,230 --> 02:35:16,270
I'll switch Dutch.

4520
02:35:16,610 --> 02:35:17,890
Go towards his knighthood.

4521
02:35:17,890 --> 02:35:21,030
Side note, his $200 U.S. donation on

4522
02:35:21,030 --> 02:35:24,150
show 1808 is 280 Canadians.

4523
02:35:24,930 --> 02:35:26,450
Alex and I have been on a glorious

4524
02:35:26,450 --> 02:35:28,350
journey for 23 years.

4525
02:35:28,870 --> 02:35:31,190
We meet while touring with Cirque du Soleil.

4526
02:35:31,790 --> 02:35:32,290
Oh, wow.

4527
02:35:33,070 --> 02:35:34,210
We had our first born.

4528
02:35:34,510 --> 02:35:35,270
That's cool.

4529
02:35:35,930 --> 02:35:39,410
Were you the lady in the cocktail glass?

4530
02:35:40,490 --> 02:35:41,650
We had our first born.

4531
02:35:41,810 --> 02:35:42,050
In the ball.

4532
02:35:43,130 --> 02:35:45,210
We had our first born on tour until

4533
02:35:45,210 --> 02:35:45,870
school age.

4534
02:35:45,870 --> 02:35:47,970
Then we started playing house, and we had

4535
02:35:47,970 --> 02:35:50,530
our second daughter and many crazy adventures ever

4536
02:35:50,530 --> 02:35:50,810
since.

4537
02:35:50,930 --> 02:35:51,890
It has been a blast.

4538
02:35:52,550 --> 02:35:54,770
Alex has been my rock and keeps inspiring

4539
02:35:54,770 --> 02:35:55,770
all of us girls.

4540
02:35:56,310 --> 02:35:57,530
Happy hunting, my love.

4541
02:35:58,030 --> 02:35:58,950
What do you want him to hunt?

4542
02:35:59,850 --> 02:36:00,390
There's two.

4543
02:36:00,390 --> 02:36:01,210
Yeah, really?

4544
02:36:01,950 --> 02:36:04,050
He doesn't quite understand the meaning of that.

4545
02:36:04,050 --> 02:36:04,790
Oh, it's Danish.

4546
02:36:04,970 --> 02:36:06,970
There's too many more years as we slowly

4547
02:36:06,970 --> 02:36:09,130
make the journey towards dame and knighthood.

4548
02:36:09,250 --> 02:36:10,990
Thank you for your attention to this matter.

4549
02:36:11,150 --> 02:36:12,650
John, would you be so kind to play?

4550
02:36:12,830 --> 02:36:14,310
I love my truck and I love what

4551
02:36:14,310 --> 02:36:14,630
I do.

4552
02:36:16,900 --> 02:36:17,680
Yes, I would.

4553
02:36:18,200 --> 02:36:23,730
I love my truck.

4554
02:36:23,730 --> 02:36:26,110
And we thank you all, executive and associate

4555
02:36:26,110 --> 02:36:28,250
executive producers, for your support of the No

4556
02:36:28,250 --> 02:36:30,970
Agenda Show for episode 1809.

4557
02:36:31,030 --> 02:36:32,390
It is all highly appreciated.

4558
02:36:32,810 --> 02:36:34,410
And of course, these credits are the real

4559
02:36:34,410 --> 02:36:34,690
deal.

4560
02:36:34,850 --> 02:36:38,630
Go to imdb.com and you can open

4561
02:36:38,630 --> 02:36:40,130
up an account if you already have one.

4562
02:36:40,410 --> 02:36:41,830
And of course, we'll be thanking the rest

4563
02:36:41,830 --> 02:36:43,850
of our donors, $50 and above in our

4564
02:36:43,850 --> 02:36:44,470
second segment.

4565
02:36:44,850 --> 02:36:47,390
We love every single value for value donation.

4566
02:36:47,490 --> 02:36:48,010
Any amount.

4567
02:36:48,290 --> 02:36:50,250
You can also set up a recurring donation.

4568
02:36:50,250 --> 02:36:51,890
Don't you do it through GoFundMe.

4569
02:36:52,070 --> 02:36:54,630
Do it right here on NoAgendaDonations.com.

4570
02:36:54,750 --> 02:36:57,810
Congratulations again to these executive and associate executive

4571
02:36:57,810 --> 02:36:58,270
producers.

4572
02:36:59,010 --> 02:37:00,370
Our formula is this.

4573
02:37:01,210 --> 02:37:03,490
We go out, we hit people in the

4574
02:37:03,490 --> 02:37:03,730
mouth.

4575
02:37:17,030 --> 02:37:19,430
So, Lady Vox in the troll room says

4576
02:37:19,430 --> 02:37:20,210
she's disappointed.

4577
02:37:20,350 --> 02:37:21,930
She thought that her check would have reached

4578
02:37:21,930 --> 02:37:22,510
you by now.

4579
02:37:22,590 --> 02:37:24,210
She sent it nine days ago.

4580
02:37:24,530 --> 02:37:26,070
When did you check the P.O. box?

4581
02:37:26,170 --> 02:37:27,250
You check it regularly, don't you?

4582
02:37:27,250 --> 02:37:28,850
I'll tell you what, I checked that P

4583
02:37:28,850 --> 02:37:32,490
.O. box every Tuesday and Friday.

4584
02:37:33,730 --> 02:37:34,350
Oh, okay.

4585
02:37:34,430 --> 02:37:36,550
How long?

4586
02:37:36,690 --> 02:37:37,570
I don't know where she lives.

4587
02:37:37,690 --> 02:37:39,030
I don't know how long it would take.

4588
02:37:39,390 --> 02:37:41,570
The mail has been kind of unpredictable, I

4589
02:37:41,570 --> 02:37:42,030
would say.

4590
02:37:43,250 --> 02:37:43,910
Just just me.

4591
02:37:44,090 --> 02:37:45,490
Sometimes it takes longer than it should.

4592
02:37:45,630 --> 02:37:47,590
Sometimes it comes in like really fast.

4593
02:37:48,590 --> 02:37:50,230
I don't know how it works.

4594
02:37:51,310 --> 02:37:52,970
Hey, we have an Epstein update.

4595
02:37:53,330 --> 02:37:54,110
Epstein update.

4596
02:37:54,850 --> 02:37:55,310
Epstein?

4597
02:37:55,450 --> 02:37:56,050
Who's Epstein?

4598
02:37:56,410 --> 02:37:58,990
Prince Andrew gives up his royal title of

4599
02:37:58,990 --> 02:38:01,510
Duke of York as well as other honors

4600
02:38:01,510 --> 02:38:05,050
after his friendship with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein

4601
02:38:05,050 --> 02:38:06,770
returns to the headlines.

4602
02:38:07,370 --> 02:38:09,810
The news comes ahead of the late Virginia

4603
02:38:09,810 --> 02:38:13,250
Roberts' Jeffrey's memoir, due to be published on

4604
02:38:13,250 --> 02:38:13,770
Tuesday.

4605
02:38:14,230 --> 02:38:17,330
Jeffrey alleged she was trafficked by Epstein and

4606
02:38:17,330 --> 02:38:19,790
had sex with Andrew when she was 17.

4607
02:38:20,270 --> 02:38:21,910
Claims Andrew denies.

4608
02:38:22,090 --> 02:38:24,810
In a statement released by Buckingham Palace on

4609
02:38:24,810 --> 02:38:27,250
Friday and with the agreement of his brother,

4610
02:38:27,250 --> 02:38:31,070
King Charles, Andrew said, the continued accusations about

4611
02:38:31,070 --> 02:38:33,810
me distract from the work of His Majesty

4612
02:38:33,810 --> 02:38:35,110
and the royal family.

4613
02:38:35,350 --> 02:38:39,010
In 2019, Andrew had already stepped down from

4614
02:38:39,010 --> 02:38:42,270
public life over links to Epstein, despite denying

4615
02:38:42,270 --> 02:38:43,430
any wrongdoing.

4616
02:38:43,770 --> 02:38:45,830
Interesting that she keeps saying Epstein.

4617
02:38:46,090 --> 02:38:47,810
The whole world knows it's Epstein.

4618
02:38:47,950 --> 02:38:48,770
I don't know why I have to say

4619
02:38:48,770 --> 02:38:49,270
Epstein.

4620
02:38:50,030 --> 02:38:51,770
And it seems like Duke of York title

4621
02:38:51,770 --> 02:38:52,370
is in play.

4622
02:38:52,550 --> 02:38:55,070
Anyone who wants to upgrade to Duke, you

4623
02:38:55,070 --> 02:38:56,150
can become the Duke of York.

4624
02:38:59,920 --> 02:39:01,900
I think we should give it to a

4625
02:39:01,900 --> 02:39:03,240
Duke of York promotion.

4626
02:39:04,400 --> 02:39:06,500
I think it was, it was very strange

4627
02:39:06,500 --> 02:39:07,720
that this guy bailed out.

4628
02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:09,440
Like, I mean, why didn't he do this

4629
02:39:09,440 --> 02:39:10,080
years ago?

4630
02:39:10,280 --> 02:39:12,160
Because the book is coming out and something

4631
02:39:12,160 --> 02:39:13,240
no good is in the book.

4632
02:39:13,660 --> 02:39:15,300
Something in the book that he knows about

4633
02:39:15,300 --> 02:39:16,140
is not good.

4634
02:39:16,700 --> 02:39:17,580
For sure.

4635
02:39:18,560 --> 02:39:19,180
For sure.

4636
02:39:22,140 --> 02:39:24,620
We have, let's see.

4637
02:39:26,670 --> 02:39:30,490
We have, oh yeah, I guess the, there's

4638
02:39:30,490 --> 02:39:32,910
a, well, let's start with this just cause,

4639
02:39:33,110 --> 02:39:34,150
just to keep up on it.

4640
02:39:34,490 --> 02:39:34,730
Bolton.

4641
02:39:36,430 --> 02:39:38,010
These were sealed indictments.

4642
02:39:38,830 --> 02:39:39,370
These were actual.

4643
02:39:39,610 --> 02:39:41,330
Before you, before you play that, let's play

4644
02:39:41,330 --> 02:39:43,250
Bolton is past commentary.

4645
02:39:43,670 --> 02:39:44,950
I have a clip here.

4646
02:39:46,450 --> 02:39:49,130
Bolton on his, on the whole, on the

4647
02:39:49,130 --> 02:39:50,650
legality of all these.

4648
02:39:51,970 --> 02:39:53,710
He, he had some way, he has some

4649
02:39:53,710 --> 02:39:57,050
commentary about Snowden and Assange and all these

4650
02:39:57,050 --> 02:39:58,470
people and how he felt about it.

4651
02:39:59,570 --> 02:40:00,790
We'll have to prove it.

4652
02:40:01,250 --> 02:40:04,550
Then, then he has committed very serious crimes.

4653
02:40:04,950 --> 02:40:05,810
This is, this, this is.

4654
02:40:05,870 --> 02:40:07,850
Wait, is this, this is, this is Bolton

4655
02:40:07,850 --> 02:40:09,090
and Mar-a-Lago raids?

4656
02:40:10,410 --> 02:40:10,850
Yeah.

4657
02:40:10,950 --> 02:40:14,530
He is talking about, he's talking about how

4658
02:40:14,530 --> 02:40:17,310
he, how the law should treat people who've

4659
02:40:17,310 --> 02:40:18,850
mishandled classified information.

4660
02:40:19,230 --> 02:40:19,330
Okay.

4661
02:40:19,450 --> 02:40:20,470
We'll have to prove it.

4662
02:40:20,870 --> 02:40:24,170
Then, then he has committed very serious crimes.

4663
02:40:24,490 --> 02:40:26,930
This is, this, this is a devastating indictment.

4664
02:40:26,930 --> 02:40:28,510
I speak here as an alumnus of the

4665
02:40:28,510 --> 02:40:31,550
justice department myself, because not only is it

4666
02:40:31,550 --> 02:40:34,210
powerful, it's very narrowly tailored.

4667
02:40:34,590 --> 02:40:36,470
They didn't throw everything up against the wall

4668
02:40:36,470 --> 02:40:37,430
to see what would stick.

4669
02:40:37,790 --> 02:40:39,810
This really is a rifle shot.

4670
02:40:40,210 --> 02:40:42,510
And I think it's, it should be the

4671
02:40:42,510 --> 02:40:44,490
end of Donald Trump's political career.

4672
02:40:44,910 --> 02:40:47,030
Oh, no, that's the one on Trump.

4673
02:40:47,130 --> 02:40:47,290
Yeah.

4674
02:40:47,390 --> 02:40:47,650
Yeah.

4675
02:40:47,730 --> 02:40:49,090
I don't have the other one, which is

4676
02:40:49,090 --> 02:40:49,690
even funnier.

4677
02:40:49,890 --> 02:40:52,430
No, but that is kind of funny in

4678
02:40:52,430 --> 02:40:55,150
light of the 18 indictments that were sealed.

4679
02:40:55,150 --> 02:40:58,390
Former UN ambassador and former Trump national security

4680
02:40:58,390 --> 02:41:01,750
advisor, John Bolton, appearing in federal court in

4681
02:41:01,750 --> 02:41:02,130
Maryland.

4682
02:41:02,590 --> 02:41:05,170
Bolton pleading not guilty to 18 counts of

4683
02:41:05,170 --> 02:41:08,890
alleged illegal transmission and retention of classified information.

4684
02:41:09,330 --> 02:41:12,010
He declared himself the latest target in weaponizing

4685
02:41:12,010 --> 02:41:14,810
the justice department to charge those Trump deems

4686
02:41:14,810 --> 02:41:15,710
to be his enemies.

4687
02:41:16,130 --> 02:41:18,070
Bolton is the third Trump enemy to be

4688
02:41:18,070 --> 02:41:19,470
indicted in three weeks.

4689
02:41:19,770 --> 02:41:22,730
The others, former FBI Director James Comey and

4690
02:41:22,730 --> 02:41:24,570
New York Attorney General Letitia James.

4691
02:41:24,570 --> 02:41:26,190
Earlier this week, the president.

4692
02:41:26,290 --> 02:41:26,510
What?

4693
02:41:27,470 --> 02:41:28,930
Where did this clip come from?

4694
02:41:32,110 --> 02:41:33,370
Let me check.

4695
02:41:33,790 --> 02:41:35,170
This seems a little slanted.

4696
02:41:35,530 --> 02:41:37,570
This is the third Trump enemy.

4697
02:41:38,390 --> 02:41:39,290
This ABC.

4698
02:41:39,650 --> 02:41:40,570
Yes, good catch.

4699
02:41:41,530 --> 02:41:43,210
Oh, it's a Trump enemy.

4700
02:41:43,370 --> 02:41:43,710
Yes.

4701
02:41:44,090 --> 02:41:45,610
It's a guy who broke the law.

4702
02:41:45,850 --> 02:41:46,430
Yeah, I know.

4703
02:41:47,330 --> 02:41:49,270
I'd actually put a note to myself and

4704
02:41:49,270 --> 02:41:50,570
forgot to stop it myself.

4705
02:41:50,710 --> 02:41:51,730
Thank you for catching that.

4706
02:41:51,750 --> 02:41:53,590
Trump deems to be his enemies.

4707
02:41:53,590 --> 02:41:55,910
Bolton is the third Trump enemy to be

4708
02:41:55,910 --> 02:41:57,250
indicted in three weeks.

4709
02:41:57,510 --> 02:41:58,190
Isn't that great?

4710
02:41:58,290 --> 02:41:59,210
I just love that.

4711
02:41:59,250 --> 02:42:00,350
I think it's fantastic.

4712
02:42:00,470 --> 02:42:01,450
They slip that in there.

4713
02:42:01,570 --> 02:42:04,450
The others, former FBI Director James Comey and

4714
02:42:04,450 --> 02:42:06,330
New York Attorney General Letitia James.

4715
02:42:06,650 --> 02:42:08,950
Earlier this week, the president urging the Justice

4716
02:42:08,950 --> 02:42:10,310
Department to keep going.

4717
02:42:10,670 --> 02:42:13,450
Bolton saying the Trump administration embodies what Joseph

4718
02:42:13,450 --> 02:42:15,690
Stalin's head of secret police once said.

4719
02:42:15,970 --> 02:42:17,490
You show me the man and I'll show

4720
02:42:17,490 --> 02:42:18,070
you the crime.

4721
02:42:18,350 --> 02:42:21,170
Bolton is accused of sharing classified information with

4722
02:42:21,170 --> 02:42:24,430
two family members in diary-like emails describing

4723
02:42:24,430 --> 02:42:27,010
his experiences in Trump's White House for a

4724
02:42:27,010 --> 02:42:27,690
tell-all book.

4725
02:42:28,170 --> 02:42:31,330
Prosecutors say that information, in addition to documents,

4726
02:42:31,670 --> 02:42:34,070
was discovered when the FBI searched his home.

4727
02:42:34,490 --> 02:42:36,750
President Trump saying this on Fox News.

4728
02:42:36,970 --> 02:42:40,130
He took classified information and he published it

4729
02:42:40,130 --> 02:42:41,290
during the presidency.

4730
02:42:41,610 --> 02:42:43,250
It's one thing to write a book after,

4731
02:42:43,890 --> 02:42:44,250
during.

4732
02:42:45,170 --> 02:42:46,690
And I believe that he's a criminal.

4733
02:42:46,990 --> 02:42:49,310
And I believe, frankly, he should go to

4734
02:42:49,310 --> 02:42:49,910
jail for that.

4735
02:42:49,910 --> 02:42:52,470
The indictment says Bolton's email was hacked by

4736
02:42:52,470 --> 02:42:55,530
an Iranian cyber actor gaining access to alleged

4737
02:42:55,530 --> 02:42:56,770
classified material.

4738
02:42:57,310 --> 02:42:59,330
Bolton did report the hack to authorities.

4739
02:42:59,730 --> 02:43:03,650
Bolton's attorneys deny any wrongdoing with Bolton insisting

4740
02:43:03,650 --> 02:43:06,170
his book was reviewed and approved by the

4741
02:43:06,170 --> 02:43:09,230
appropriate experienced career clearance officials.

4742
02:43:09,470 --> 02:43:12,150
If convicted, each count carries 10 years.

4743
02:43:12,390 --> 02:43:15,730
Yeah, I find this very interesting because, yeah,

4744
02:43:15,810 --> 02:43:17,430
first of all, he published it in a

4745
02:43:17,430 --> 02:43:20,490
book and he says it was cleared by

4746
02:43:20,490 --> 02:43:23,990
security officials.

4747
02:43:26,010 --> 02:43:27,870
I wonder who does that.

4748
02:43:28,010 --> 02:43:30,030
And then, oh, it was an Iranian cyber

4749
02:43:30,030 --> 02:43:30,490
hacker.

4750
02:43:31,110 --> 02:43:35,690
OK, yeah, well, I don't know.

4751
02:43:35,790 --> 02:43:36,870
You think he's going to go away?

4752
02:43:38,090 --> 02:43:39,150
I doubt it.

4753
02:43:39,450 --> 02:43:42,190
The Republicans are always making these threats and

4754
02:43:42,190 --> 02:43:43,090
never nothing.

4755
02:43:43,290 --> 02:43:45,710
I'm always reminded of James Comer.

4756
02:43:45,710 --> 02:43:47,730
Now, you say this, but you keep saying

4757
02:43:47,730 --> 02:43:48,390
it about the Republicans.

4758
02:43:48,530 --> 02:43:50,770
Look, everything in Congress, I'm with you.

4759
02:43:51,170 --> 02:43:52,130
Who cares?

4760
02:43:52,250 --> 02:43:53,170
It's uninteresting.

4761
02:43:53,610 --> 02:43:54,750
They don't do anything.

4762
02:43:55,290 --> 02:43:57,030
But when it gets to the Department of

4763
02:43:57,030 --> 02:43:59,390
Justice, that's not just the Republicans.

4764
02:43:59,570 --> 02:44:00,790
That's the Department of Justice.

4765
02:44:01,010 --> 02:44:02,690
And Pam Bondi, who we know is not

4766
02:44:02,690 --> 02:44:05,850
the brightest lamp, she could just take it

4767
02:44:05,850 --> 02:44:06,410
all the way.

4768
02:44:07,630 --> 02:44:09,690
You know, she could make it happen.

4769
02:44:09,810 --> 02:44:11,530
She can get someone put in jail.

4770
02:44:12,230 --> 02:44:12,870
We'll see.

4771
02:44:13,410 --> 02:44:17,350
Well, then there's the declassified Durham report documents.

4772
02:44:17,610 --> 02:44:21,290
The documents contain emails allegedly from the senior

4773
02:44:21,290 --> 02:44:24,610
vice president of the George Soros Open Society

4774
02:44:24,610 --> 02:44:25,190
Foundation.

4775
02:44:25,630 --> 02:44:27,770
He quotes a Clinton campaign advisor saying, quote,

4776
02:44:28,010 --> 02:44:30,310
it will be a long term affair and

4777
02:44:30,310 --> 02:44:33,690
to demonize Putin and Trump and adds that,

4778
02:44:33,870 --> 02:44:37,270
quote, later the FBI will put more oil

4779
02:44:37,270 --> 02:44:38,710
into the fire, unquote.

4780
02:44:38,710 --> 02:44:42,370
Other emails reveal Hillary Clinton approved the idea

4781
02:44:42,370 --> 02:44:46,030
of tying Trump and Russia to election interference,

4782
02:44:46,550 --> 02:44:49,010
and that was a scheme hoping the allegations

4783
02:44:49,010 --> 02:44:52,510
would distract people from her own email scandal.

4784
02:44:52,850 --> 02:44:55,950
These documents provide clear evidence that Hillary Clinton's

4785
02:44:55,950 --> 02:44:58,470
campaign was behind the Russia hoax and that

4786
02:44:58,470 --> 02:45:00,730
the FBI knew what the Clinton team was

4787
02:45:00,730 --> 02:45:03,430
up to, acknowledging that the info they were

4788
02:45:03,430 --> 02:45:06,150
receiving about the Trump campaign may have come

4789
02:45:06,150 --> 02:45:07,770
from the Clinton camp.

4790
02:45:07,770 --> 02:45:11,450
Despite this, the Obama intel community forged ahead

4791
02:45:11,450 --> 02:45:15,470
with their 2017 assessment, concluding that Russia aspired

4792
02:45:15,470 --> 02:45:17,530
to help Trump win the election.

4793
02:45:18,350 --> 02:45:19,350
So what laws?

4794
02:45:19,470 --> 02:45:21,110
Where did that report come from?

4795
02:45:21,290 --> 02:45:21,550
Fox.

4796
02:45:22,650 --> 02:45:23,290
Yeah, of course.

4797
02:45:23,450 --> 02:45:23,910
Yeah, of course.

4798
02:45:23,930 --> 02:45:25,730
Nobody is reporting that but Fox.

4799
02:45:25,950 --> 02:45:27,870
And do you think that that can be

4800
02:45:27,870 --> 02:45:30,890
used to send someone like Comey or Brennan

4801
02:45:30,890 --> 02:45:31,650
to jail?

4802
02:45:32,330 --> 02:45:34,590
I think that I think there's a unless

4803
02:45:34,590 --> 02:45:35,770
they can prove conspiracy.

4804
02:45:35,950 --> 02:45:36,570
I don't know.

4805
02:45:36,570 --> 02:45:37,990
No, I don't think so either.

4806
02:45:38,330 --> 02:45:41,150
If they can't prove conspiracy because everything else

4807
02:45:41,150 --> 02:45:43,510
is statute of limitations is long gone.

4808
02:45:44,430 --> 02:45:46,450
Yeah, they have to prove conspiracy.

4809
02:45:46,630 --> 02:45:48,890
And, you know, that's why I think they're

4810
02:45:48,890 --> 02:45:51,590
going after Comey with this minor charge.

4811
02:45:51,990 --> 02:45:52,250
Yeah.

4812
02:45:52,370 --> 02:45:53,530
Get him on tax evasion.

4813
02:45:54,610 --> 02:45:55,770
Yeah, that's the trick.

4814
02:45:56,610 --> 02:45:58,670
And then sad news from the world of

4815
02:45:58,670 --> 02:45:59,850
rock and roll, everybody.

4816
02:46:00,090 --> 02:46:00,930
Rock and roll.

4817
02:46:01,090 --> 02:46:02,790
Sad news in the world of rock and

4818
02:46:02,790 --> 02:46:03,110
roll.

4819
02:46:03,250 --> 02:46:04,010
Rock and roll.

4820
02:46:04,010 --> 02:46:06,530
Ace Frehley, a founding member of the glam

4821
02:46:06,530 --> 02:46:09,130
rock band Kiss, has died after a recent

4822
02:46:09,130 --> 02:46:09,550
fall.

4823
02:46:09,910 --> 02:46:12,770
Frehley's driving guitar sound powered the band that

4824
02:46:12,770 --> 02:46:16,290
captivated audiences with elaborate makeup and thrilling stage

4825
02:46:16,290 --> 02:46:16,910
performances.

4826
02:46:17,410 --> 02:46:20,570
His agent says Frehley died peacefully Thursday, surrounded

4827
02:46:20,570 --> 02:46:22,550
by family in Morristown, New Jersey.

4828
02:46:23,030 --> 02:46:24,310
Ace Frehley was 74.

4829
02:46:25,170 --> 02:46:27,330
They leaving a lot out there.

4830
02:46:28,270 --> 02:46:30,410
Ace Frehley, lifelong addict.

4831
02:46:31,470 --> 02:46:33,710
So bad that his daughter just she quit

4832
02:46:33,710 --> 02:46:36,150
her job, everything to try and keep him

4833
02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:38,310
alive and keep him off substances.

4834
02:46:39,050 --> 02:46:40,990
And then he slipped and he fell and

4835
02:46:40,990 --> 02:46:42,810
then he got a brain bleed and they

4836
02:46:42,810 --> 02:46:44,010
thought it was going to be OK, but

4837
02:46:44,010 --> 02:46:47,840
then he wasn't, which I don't know if

4838
02:46:47,840 --> 02:46:48,120
he would.

4839
02:46:48,240 --> 02:46:50,880
His driving guitar was really the success of

4840
02:46:50,880 --> 02:46:54,140
Kiss, but it was an element.

4841
02:46:54,260 --> 02:46:55,400
It was it was an element.

4842
02:46:55,600 --> 02:46:55,800
Yeah.

4843
02:46:56,960 --> 02:46:58,060
74 is too young.

4844
02:46:58,280 --> 02:46:58,840
It's too young.

4845
02:46:59,680 --> 02:47:00,220
Too young.

4846
02:47:00,280 --> 02:47:01,040
I tell you.

4847
02:47:01,040 --> 02:47:03,520
Well, if you're strung out, it's easy to

4848
02:47:03,520 --> 02:47:04,180
get that far.

4849
02:47:06,720 --> 02:47:07,840
Climate change.

4850
02:47:07,960 --> 02:47:08,840
There's a new report.

4851
02:47:10,220 --> 02:47:11,560
Man, I'm so happy.

4852
02:47:11,580 --> 02:47:12,900
I really hope that.

4853
02:47:13,120 --> 02:47:14,760
Well, before you play the new report on

4854
02:47:14,760 --> 02:47:17,500
climate change, let's play my old report from

4855
02:47:17,500 --> 02:47:18,520
2009.

4856
02:47:19,100 --> 02:47:22,040
OK, climate change from John Kerry on the

4857
02:47:22,040 --> 02:47:22,900
Congress floor.

4858
02:47:23,360 --> 02:47:25,440
In five years, scientists predict we will have

4859
02:47:25,440 --> 02:47:29,640
the first ice free Arctic summer that exposes

4860
02:47:29,640 --> 02:47:31,100
more ocean to sunlight.

4861
02:47:31,620 --> 02:47:32,620
Ocean is dark.

4862
02:47:33,000 --> 02:47:34,880
It consumes more of the heat from the

4863
02:47:34,880 --> 02:47:38,940
sunlight, which then accelerates the rate of of

4864
02:47:38,940 --> 02:47:42,020
the of the melting and warming rather than

4865
02:47:42,020 --> 02:47:44,320
the ice sheet and the snow that used

4866
02:47:44,320 --> 02:47:46,540
to reflect it back up into the atmosphere.

4867
02:47:47,180 --> 02:47:47,480
No.

4868
02:47:47,620 --> 02:47:49,760
So that was so 10 years ago we

4869
02:47:49,760 --> 02:47:51,200
should have had an ice free Arctic.

4870
02:47:51,880 --> 02:47:54,140
Well, he said in five years and that

4871
02:47:54,140 --> 02:47:54,880
was 2009.

4872
02:47:55,000 --> 02:47:56,980
So in 2014, which is 11 years ago,

4873
02:47:57,040 --> 02:47:58,600
11 years, we should have had an Arctic,

4874
02:47:58,600 --> 02:48:00,620
a free Arctic, even though we're buying ice

4875
02:48:00,620 --> 02:48:02,640
breakers for some reason from Finland.

4876
02:48:04,080 --> 02:48:05,680
This is a good beat, John.

4877
02:48:05,780 --> 02:48:07,240
I want you to keep bringing these on.

4878
02:48:08,080 --> 02:48:10,580
All these old clips, just keep bringing them

4879
02:48:10,580 --> 02:48:10,780
up.

4880
02:48:10,960 --> 02:48:12,600
And then there's a good intro to the

4881
02:48:12,600 --> 02:48:14,220
new clips on which you have.

4882
02:48:14,300 --> 02:48:15,760
Yes, it's a new report.

4883
02:48:16,000 --> 02:48:18,180
And of course, it's actually quite similar.

4884
02:48:18,660 --> 02:48:22,520
Sweltering heat and cracked earth all over the

4885
02:48:22,520 --> 02:48:22,740
world.

4886
02:48:22,980 --> 02:48:24,540
Global warming is having an impact.

4887
02:48:24,840 --> 02:48:25,180
Oh, no.

4888
02:48:25,340 --> 02:48:26,200
Cracked earth.

4889
02:48:26,460 --> 02:48:27,520
And it's getting hotter.

4890
02:48:28,140 --> 02:48:31,020
Average global temperatures have risen by 0.3

4891
02:48:31,020 --> 02:48:34,820
degrees Celsius since 2015, leading to 11 more

4892
02:48:34,820 --> 02:48:36,040
hot days per year.

4893
02:48:36,400 --> 02:48:39,360
A decade ago, almost 200 governments came together

4894
02:48:39,360 --> 02:48:40,700
to sign the Paris Agreement.

4895
02:48:41,180 --> 02:48:43,300
So I love the hot days.

4896
02:48:43,420 --> 02:48:44,760
I don't know what a hot day is.

4897
02:48:44,880 --> 02:48:45,620
You know, it's a hot day.

4898
02:48:45,660 --> 02:48:47,120
Hot day here is over 100.

4899
02:48:47,280 --> 02:48:49,180
A hot day for you might be 90.

4900
02:48:49,380 --> 02:48:50,680
You know, it's like, what's a hot day?

4901
02:48:51,260 --> 02:48:54,680
And no, I don't like this at all.

4902
02:48:54,760 --> 02:48:55,440
I don't like these.

4903
02:48:55,680 --> 02:48:57,060
You should be a little more exact.

4904
02:48:57,060 --> 02:48:58,600
An international climate.

4905
02:48:58,860 --> 02:48:59,080
85.

4906
02:48:59,580 --> 02:49:00,560
Is that a hot day for you?

4907
02:49:00,700 --> 02:49:01,580
I think so, yeah.

4908
02:49:01,660 --> 02:49:04,040
Most 200 governments came together to sign the

4909
02:49:04,040 --> 02:49:04,760
Paris Agreement.

4910
02:49:05,020 --> 02:49:07,400
Yes, just a reminder, the Paris Agreement, part

4911
02:49:07,400 --> 02:49:08,400
of the North Sea Nexus.

4912
02:49:08,820 --> 02:49:11,920
An international climate accord that obliges nations to

4913
02:49:11,920 --> 02:49:15,040
reduce their greenhouse gas emissions and limit temperature

4914
02:49:15,040 --> 02:49:17,260
rise to no more than 2 degrees Celsius.

4915
02:49:18,060 --> 02:49:19,600
Before the agreement was signed.

4916
02:49:19,920 --> 02:49:20,160
What?

4917
02:49:20,340 --> 02:49:20,520
What?

4918
02:49:20,920 --> 02:49:22,500
What happened to 1.5?

4919
02:49:22,640 --> 02:49:25,360
No, no, it's a moving target.

4920
02:49:25,360 --> 02:49:28,340
Emissions and limit temperature rise to no more

4921
02:49:28,340 --> 02:49:29,520
than 2 degrees Celsius.

4922
02:49:30,200 --> 02:49:33,420
Before the agreement was signed, global warming was

4923
02:49:33,420 --> 02:49:36,180
estimated to reach 4 degrees Celsius above pre

4924
02:49:36,180 --> 02:49:38,280
-industrial levels by the end of the century,

4925
02:49:38,680 --> 02:49:41,500
which scientists say would have led to 114

4926
02:49:41,500 --> 02:49:43,180
additional hot days per year.

4927
02:49:43,400 --> 02:49:44,480
This is the new metric.

4928
02:49:44,840 --> 02:49:47,040
It's how many extra hot days you get.

4929
02:49:48,000 --> 02:49:49,080
Hey, you know what?

4930
02:49:49,300 --> 02:49:52,220
There's people that live in Holland and they're

4931
02:49:52,220 --> 02:49:53,420
happy with hot days.

4932
02:49:53,540 --> 02:49:54,760
They're like, it's beautiful weather.

4933
02:49:54,760 --> 02:49:57,120
I live in a perpetual car wash.

4934
02:49:57,280 --> 02:49:58,580
I like hot weather.

4935
02:49:58,860 --> 02:50:01,480
If enacted, pledges made under the accord would

4936
02:50:01,480 --> 02:50:04,320
limit warming to 2.6 degrees, leading to

4937
02:50:04,320 --> 02:50:05,760
half the number of hot days.

4938
02:50:06,140 --> 02:50:08,360
It's progress, say experts, as part of a

4939
02:50:08,360 --> 02:50:08,920
new study.

4940
02:50:09,300 --> 02:50:11,020
But more still needs to be done.

4941
02:50:11,500 --> 02:50:13,840
We are still not seeing the highest possible

4942
02:50:13,840 --> 02:50:14,320
ambition.

4943
02:50:14,760 --> 02:50:17,360
And that is obviously a huge problem.

4944
02:50:17,800 --> 02:50:19,540
And Brit, Brit, North Sea Nexus.

4945
02:50:19,740 --> 02:50:21,220
It is a problem that will be paid

4946
02:50:21,220 --> 02:50:23,800
for with the lives and livelihoods of.

4947
02:50:23,800 --> 02:50:24,360
Lives.

4948
02:50:25,160 --> 02:50:26,860
Yeah, the poorest people in the world.

4949
02:50:27,120 --> 02:50:28,660
Poorest people in the world will die.

4950
02:50:28,820 --> 02:50:30,700
You evil, evil Westerners.

4951
02:50:30,860 --> 02:50:31,840
In every country.

4952
02:50:32,380 --> 02:50:34,460
Heat is the deadliest type of extreme weather,

4953
02:50:34,840 --> 02:50:37,680
contributing to an estimated half a million deaths

4954
02:50:37,680 --> 02:50:39,040
globally every year.

4955
02:50:39,940 --> 02:50:41,560
And it's often underestimated.

4956
02:50:42,600 --> 02:50:45,380
Only around half of countries worldwide have heat

4957
02:50:45,380 --> 02:50:48,760
early warning systems in place, with coverage uneven

4958
02:50:48,760 --> 02:50:52,080
and far fewer systems found in Africa, Latin

4959
02:50:52,080 --> 02:50:54,040
America and parts of Asia.

4960
02:50:54,440 --> 02:50:56,760
We need heat early warning systems.

4961
02:50:56,980 --> 02:50:58,380
Another exit strategy.

4962
02:50:59,440 --> 02:51:00,540
It's called a thermometer.

4963
02:51:05,640 --> 02:51:07,460
OK, we can keep playing these sorts of

4964
02:51:07,460 --> 02:51:07,740
things.

4965
02:51:07,920 --> 02:51:09,900
Yeah, I don't have any more, but.

4966
02:51:10,000 --> 02:51:12,100
I think more dangerous is Starshield.

4967
02:51:12,240 --> 02:51:13,200
Have you heard about this?

4968
02:51:13,340 --> 02:51:14,320
Yes, I have.

4969
02:51:14,860 --> 02:51:16,020
I have heard about it.

4970
02:51:16,040 --> 02:51:16,700
I have a clip.

4971
02:51:16,860 --> 02:51:18,740
I would love to hear your clips about

4972
02:51:18,740 --> 02:51:20,800
Starshield, because it seems like they're on the

4973
02:51:20,800 --> 02:51:21,620
hand bands.

4974
02:51:22,780 --> 02:51:23,260
Exactly.

4975
02:51:23,900 --> 02:51:29,040
It all began with a guy living out

4976
02:51:29,040 --> 02:51:31,220
in British Columbia named Scott Tilley.

4977
02:51:31,540 --> 02:51:33,640
Tilley tracks satellites for fun, kind of like

4978
02:51:33,640 --> 02:51:35,540
plane spotting, but in space.

4979
02:51:36,200 --> 02:51:36,960
He was working with his.

4980
02:51:37,160 --> 02:51:38,000
Yeah, there it is.

4981
02:51:38,100 --> 02:51:41,720
That categorizes your typical amateur radio operator, kind

4982
02:51:41,720 --> 02:51:43,840
of like a plane spotter in space.

4983
02:51:44,100 --> 02:51:46,120
Tilley tracks satellites for fun, kind of like

4984
02:51:46,120 --> 02:51:48,020
plane spotting, but in space.

4985
02:51:48,180 --> 02:51:50,400
He was working with his equipment one day.

4986
02:51:50,720 --> 02:51:52,560
And it was just a clumsy move at

4987
02:51:52,560 --> 02:51:53,060
the keyboard.

4988
02:51:53,060 --> 02:51:54,860
I was just resetting some stuff.

4989
02:51:55,060 --> 02:51:57,100
He switched to the wrong antenna and found

4990
02:51:57,100 --> 02:51:59,540
himself looking at a range of radio frequencies

4991
02:51:59,540 --> 02:52:01,340
that are normally quiet.

4992
02:52:01,720 --> 02:52:02,940
He was about to move on when he

4993
02:52:02,940 --> 02:52:04,180
saw something weird.

4994
02:52:04,400 --> 02:52:05,280
It's really subtle.

4995
02:52:05,440 --> 02:52:06,600
Just, you know, you catch it by the

4996
02:52:06,600 --> 02:52:07,320
corner of your eye.

4997
02:52:07,420 --> 02:52:07,920
Hey, wait a minute.

4998
02:52:08,020 --> 02:52:09,700
That's exactly the type of stuff I'm normally

4999
02:52:09,700 --> 02:52:10,420
looking for.

5000
02:52:10,740 --> 02:52:13,340
A radio signal from a satellite, but at

5001
02:52:13,340 --> 02:52:14,700
the wrong frequency.

5002
02:52:14,940 --> 02:52:17,340
Tilley recorded the signal and then looked at

5003
02:52:17,340 --> 02:52:19,900
a catalog other amateurs had created of all

5004
02:52:19,900 --> 02:52:21,180
the satellites in space.

5005
02:52:21,180 --> 02:52:25,760
And bang, up came an unusual identification that

5006
02:52:25,760 --> 02:52:26,940
I wasn't expecting at all.

5007
02:52:27,180 --> 02:52:27,620
Starshield.

5008
02:52:28,000 --> 02:52:31,280
Starshield is a classified network of intelligence satellites

5009
02:52:31,280 --> 02:52:32,960
from the commercial company SpaceX.

5010
02:52:33,400 --> 02:52:36,880
Its users include spy agencies like the National

5011
02:52:36,880 --> 02:52:40,480
Reconnaissance Office, which launched a batch of Starshield

5012
02:52:40,480 --> 02:52:42,260
satellites just last month.

5013
02:52:42,380 --> 02:52:44,800
Two, one, ignition.

5014
02:52:46,180 --> 02:52:48,020
And liftoff of Falcon 9.

5015
02:52:48,160 --> 02:52:49,920
Go SpaceX, go NRL 48.

5016
02:52:49,920 --> 02:52:53,160
Tilley has since spotted a lot more Starshields,

5017
02:52:53,220 --> 02:52:54,940
170 in all.

5018
02:52:55,340 --> 02:52:57,500
And that's a problem, he says, because this

5019
02:52:57,500 --> 02:52:59,840
frequency they're using to send data down to

5020
02:52:59,840 --> 02:53:02,440
Earth is supposed to be used for the

5021
02:53:02,440 --> 02:53:06,040
exact opposite, for sending commands from Earth to

5022
02:53:06,040 --> 02:53:07,260
civilian satellites.

5023
02:53:07,680 --> 02:53:09,320
He worries Starshield could mess them up.

5024
02:53:09,620 --> 02:53:13,840
Nearby satellites could receive radio frequency interference and

5025
02:53:13,840 --> 02:53:18,040
could perhaps not respond properly to commands or

5026
02:53:18,040 --> 02:53:19,540
ignore commands from Earth.

5027
02:53:19,540 --> 02:53:22,220
Kevin Gifford is a computer scientist at the

5028
02:53:22,220 --> 02:53:25,300
University of Colorado Boulder who specializes in radio

5029
02:53:25,300 --> 02:53:26,780
interference from spacecraft.

5030
02:53:27,200 --> 02:53:30,480
He agrees Starshield signals could cause interference.

5031
02:53:31,280 --> 02:53:34,360
I'm skeptical about this because the way I

5032
02:53:34,360 --> 02:53:39,040
understand it is he's using, or these Starshields

5033
02:53:39,040 --> 02:53:44,680
are sending signals on the downlink, what should

5034
02:53:44,680 --> 02:53:46,840
be the uplink from a bunch of hams

5035
02:53:46,840 --> 02:53:48,860
on CubeSats.

5036
02:53:49,660 --> 02:53:52,180
So I'm not sure if that's going to

5037
02:53:52,180 --> 02:53:54,900
mess up command and control of other satellites.

5038
02:53:56,060 --> 02:53:57,640
Well, that's what they imply.

5039
02:53:57,920 --> 02:53:59,880
Yeah, I'm not sure that's true.

5040
02:54:00,340 --> 02:54:01,860
I think that it's definitely happening.

5041
02:54:02,960 --> 02:54:05,760
How big of an impact is a question.

5042
02:54:06,220 --> 02:54:09,340
The truth is satellite operators really don't send

5043
02:54:09,340 --> 02:54:11,640
that many commands from Earth to space, and

5044
02:54:11,640 --> 02:54:13,980
the commands they do send via uplink are

5045
02:54:13,980 --> 02:54:15,180
usually brief.

5046
02:54:15,570 --> 02:54:18,760
That uplink has a low probability of being

5047
02:54:18,760 --> 02:54:22,400
corrupted simply because the uplink in those bands

5048
02:54:22,400 --> 02:54:23,980
is not happening that often.

5049
02:54:24,280 --> 02:54:26,860
SpaceX and the NRO did not respond to

5050
02:54:26,860 --> 02:54:29,460
NPR's request for comment about the transmissions, but

5051
02:54:29,460 --> 02:54:31,880
Tilley says he thinks the world needs to

5052
02:54:31,880 --> 02:54:32,100
know.

5053
02:54:32,480 --> 02:54:34,980
These secret satellites are beaming out a signal

5054
02:54:34,980 --> 02:54:37,300
that could mess up other spacecraft.

5055
02:54:37,300 --> 02:54:42,960
Hmm, but I thought that it was on

5056
02:54:42,960 --> 02:54:46,620
a ham, part of the ham band for

5057
02:54:46,620 --> 02:54:48,080
satellite communications.

5058
02:54:48,560 --> 02:54:50,400
Did I misunderstand that?

5059
02:54:50,500 --> 02:54:51,280
They never say.

5060
02:54:51,880 --> 02:54:55,380
You know, Vic, same Vic, he's going to

5061
02:54:55,380 --> 02:54:57,200
be one of the first reps for, ah,

5062
02:54:57,200 --> 02:54:58,060
I forget the name of it.

5063
02:54:58,220 --> 02:55:01,100
What's the Amazon Starlink variant?

5064
02:55:02,540 --> 02:55:03,020
Amazon.

5065
02:55:03,740 --> 02:55:05,500
Amazon's shipping some...

5066
02:55:05,500 --> 02:55:05,660
Yes.

5067
02:55:06,200 --> 02:55:07,960
Amazon is going to put satellite birds up?

5068
02:55:08,160 --> 02:55:09,120
They already are.

5069
02:55:10,040 --> 02:55:10,300
Yeah.

5070
02:55:10,660 --> 02:55:11,660
Yeah, let me see.

5071
02:55:11,740 --> 02:55:13,260
It's called Kuiper.

5072
02:55:13,440 --> 02:55:13,840
There you go.

5073
02:55:13,940 --> 02:55:19,040
Using that same crackpot technology that Musk uses?

5074
02:55:19,180 --> 02:55:21,360
So it's called Kuiper, which is a Dutch

5075
02:55:21,360 --> 02:55:21,560
name.

5076
02:55:21,880 --> 02:55:21,980
Kuiper?

5077
02:55:22,220 --> 02:55:24,720
Yeah, K-U-I-P-E-R, Kuiper.

5078
02:55:26,680 --> 02:55:29,620
But according to Vic, this will be gigabit

5079
02:55:29,620 --> 02:55:30,180
speeds.

5080
02:55:33,060 --> 02:55:33,540
Bull.

5081
02:55:34,380 --> 02:55:37,540
Well, I mean, hey, he's a sales guy,

5082
02:55:37,800 --> 02:55:38,620
so...

5083
02:55:38,620 --> 02:55:39,060
But you should...

5084
02:55:39,580 --> 02:55:40,220
Bless you.

5085
02:55:41,320 --> 02:55:43,340
If Vic says it, I believe it.

5086
02:55:43,380 --> 02:55:45,260
That woman who wrote the note will be

5087
02:55:45,260 --> 02:55:46,400
bitching about me doing that.

5088
02:55:48,060 --> 02:55:50,560
John, you're so rude and so mean to

5089
02:55:50,560 --> 02:55:52,580
Adam, you keep sneezing in the middle of

5090
02:55:52,580 --> 02:55:52,680
him.

5091
02:55:52,900 --> 02:55:54,120
Can't you mute your mic?

5092
02:56:06,560 --> 02:56:08,920
Well, good news for the fans.

5093
02:56:09,060 --> 02:56:11,960
The Secretary's General's jingle is coming up, as

5094
02:56:11,960 --> 02:56:16,080
we have four, four, one, two, yes, four

5095
02:56:16,080 --> 02:56:17,880
Secretaries General to celebrate today.

5096
02:56:18,160 --> 02:56:19,820
Of course, John's tip of the day coming

5097
02:56:19,820 --> 02:56:22,480
up, and some outstanding end of show mixes

5098
02:56:22,480 --> 02:56:23,460
along with our meetups.

5099
02:56:23,600 --> 02:56:25,240
And right now, John is going to thank

5100
02:56:25,240 --> 02:56:29,020
the Value for Value producers who supported us,

5101
02:56:29,080 --> 02:56:30,740
$50 and above.

5102
02:56:31,660 --> 02:56:35,900
Yes, starting with Stephen or Stephan, Kirkpatrick.

5103
02:56:36,120 --> 02:56:37,400
This is, I think this is Stephen.

5104
02:56:37,580 --> 02:56:38,240
This will be Stephen.

5105
02:56:38,240 --> 02:56:40,340
Probably, but it could be anything, who knows.

5106
02:56:40,800 --> 02:56:41,240
Yes, indeed.

5107
02:56:41,420 --> 02:56:45,860
Langley Washington, one, three, five, three, eight.

5108
02:56:47,260 --> 02:56:49,580
Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee, one, two, three,

5109
02:56:49,640 --> 02:56:49,920
four, five.

5110
02:56:49,940 --> 02:56:51,120
Well, you know who Nathan is.

5111
02:56:51,580 --> 02:56:52,840
Yeah, Mercy Me.

5112
02:56:52,920 --> 02:56:53,780
He's the only one.

5113
02:56:53,860 --> 02:56:55,440
Where's the other guys from this band?

5114
02:56:55,920 --> 02:56:57,640
Well, we're never going to get Bart the

5115
02:56:57,640 --> 02:56:57,920
singer.

5116
02:56:58,180 --> 02:56:59,480
I don't think he's a Noah Jenner guy.

5117
02:56:59,480 --> 02:57:02,640
Left winger, singer, winger.

5118
02:57:03,700 --> 02:57:04,660
He's moody.

5119
02:57:05,260 --> 02:57:06,920
He's a vocalist.

5120
02:57:07,000 --> 02:57:07,420
He's moody.

5121
02:57:07,740 --> 02:57:12,700
But Barry and Mike, yes, Schwu, they are

5122
02:57:12,700 --> 02:57:13,780
big supporters.

5123
02:57:13,920 --> 02:57:14,660
And they love the show.

5124
02:57:15,200 --> 02:57:16,580
And they want us to open up and

5125
02:57:16,580 --> 02:57:19,220
go on the cruise, the Mercy Me cruise,

5126
02:57:19,740 --> 02:57:22,540
and do a Noah Jenner show talk.

5127
02:57:24,810 --> 02:57:25,770
That's nice.

5128
02:57:25,950 --> 02:57:26,530
It's lucrative.

5129
02:57:27,710 --> 02:57:28,590
I'm sure it is.

5130
02:57:29,790 --> 02:57:31,290
That's a no from John.

5131
02:57:31,730 --> 02:57:33,010
I didn't say that.

5132
02:57:34,150 --> 02:57:35,910
You're reading into what I say.

5133
02:57:36,150 --> 02:57:36,750
I'm mean.

5134
02:57:37,810 --> 02:57:38,610
Because you're mean.

5135
02:57:38,690 --> 02:57:39,550
There it is again.

5136
02:57:39,650 --> 02:57:40,290
Yeah, I'm mean.

5137
02:57:40,510 --> 02:57:43,490
Cody Dobson in San Antonio, Texas, one, oh

5138
02:57:43,490 --> 02:57:44,670
five, thirty five.

5139
02:57:45,650 --> 02:57:47,350
He's your neighbor, he says.

5140
02:57:47,670 --> 02:57:49,030
And he's a de-douching.

5141
02:57:49,230 --> 02:57:49,450
Oh.

5142
02:57:51,730 --> 02:57:53,430
You've been de-douched.

5143
02:57:53,570 --> 02:57:53,710
Wow.

5144
02:57:54,730 --> 02:57:55,610
Wait, wait.

5145
02:57:55,630 --> 02:57:57,890
He wants to call out his good friend,

5146
02:57:58,270 --> 02:58:03,170
supposedly good friend, James Walker, as a douchebag.

5147
02:58:04,910 --> 02:58:08,290
Well, Cody is, yeah, San Antonio is kind

5148
02:58:08,290 --> 02:58:10,090
of a neighbor, but it's about an hour

5149
02:58:10,090 --> 02:58:10,430
away.

5150
02:58:10,630 --> 02:58:11,230
Do you go there?

5151
02:58:11,650 --> 02:58:12,710
I go there, yes.

5152
02:58:12,930 --> 02:58:14,170
I think you go there for the Costco,

5153
02:58:14,350 --> 02:58:15,050
if I'm not mistaken.

5154
02:58:15,350 --> 02:58:18,290
Tina goes there for the Costco.

5155
02:58:19,810 --> 02:58:23,630
Robert Pettah in Sacramento, or Sacto, as we

5156
02:58:23,630 --> 02:58:26,010
call it locally, California, 100.

5157
02:58:26,570 --> 02:58:29,690
Sir Dan, the quiet man, in Kenton, Georgia,

5158
02:58:29,910 --> 02:58:31,110
84, 38.

5159
02:58:32,190 --> 02:58:35,630
Ah, Kevin McLaughlin's here, Concord, North Carolina, 8

5160
02:58:35,630 --> 02:58:37,870
-0-8-0-0-8.

5161
02:58:38,310 --> 02:58:40,490
He's the Archduke Luna lover, America lover of

5162
02:58:40,490 --> 02:58:41,470
boobs and melons.

5163
02:58:41,970 --> 02:58:43,530
P.S. Save second base.

5164
02:58:47,750 --> 02:58:49,230
I don't want to get into it.

5165
02:58:49,250 --> 02:58:50,570
That's one of the better ones.

5166
02:58:51,110 --> 02:58:52,690
Save second base.

5167
02:58:52,850 --> 02:58:53,750
Save second base.

5168
02:58:56,010 --> 02:58:58,010
You got a laugh out of us?

5169
02:58:58,230 --> 02:58:59,390
It's a good one, yeah.

5170
02:58:59,410 --> 02:58:59,990
It's a good one.

5171
02:59:04,490 --> 02:59:11,570
Christopher O'Hara, yeah, in Humblestown, Pennsylvania, 77

5172
02:59:11,570 --> 02:59:12,670
-73.

5173
02:59:13,350 --> 02:59:17,170
Darius Walker in Charleston, West Virginia, 74-14.

5174
02:59:17,990 --> 02:59:20,670
Ah, that's the West Virginia Hill donation.

5175
02:59:21,550 --> 02:59:22,830
Yeah, he sent you a note.

5176
02:59:22,830 --> 02:59:26,670
Timothy Lipton in Truckee, California, 75-88.

5177
02:59:27,550 --> 02:59:30,870
Ah, Dame Becky, good old Dame Becky in

5178
02:59:30,870 --> 02:59:33,870
Arlington, Washington, 69-96.

5179
02:59:35,030 --> 02:59:35,930
What is this?

5180
02:59:36,050 --> 02:59:38,690
H-J-C-J, is that what that

5181
02:59:38,690 --> 02:59:38,890
is?

5182
02:59:39,010 --> 02:59:40,670
H-J-C-J, Holtman.

5183
02:59:40,770 --> 02:59:41,490
Yeah, Hoffman.

5184
02:59:41,650 --> 02:59:42,870
Holtman, Holtman.

5185
02:59:43,690 --> 02:59:45,250
Holtman, Holtman.

5186
02:59:45,550 --> 02:59:45,910
Yes.

5187
02:59:46,110 --> 02:59:46,650
Holtman.

5188
02:59:46,790 --> 02:59:47,050
Yes.

5189
02:59:47,790 --> 02:59:50,150
In Wormer, Wormerver.

5190
02:59:51,230 --> 02:59:51,870
Wormerver.

5191
02:59:54,070 --> 02:59:59,230
Wormerver, which I think means the water filled

5192
02:59:59,230 --> 02:59:59,910
with worms.

5193
03:00:00,390 --> 03:00:01,890
Is that what it really means?

5194
03:00:02,110 --> 03:00:03,770
I think so, something like that, yeah.

5195
03:00:03,850 --> 03:00:06,910
Yeah, he's in Holland, 60-61.

5196
03:00:07,450 --> 03:00:10,730
Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, 6-006.

5197
03:00:10,790 --> 03:00:15,450
Dame Liberty Mom in Vista, California, 6-006.

5198
03:00:15,970 --> 03:00:18,190
And then we got, oh, nuts.

5199
03:00:19,050 --> 03:00:19,490
Okay.

5200
03:00:19,770 --> 03:00:20,350
Nuts?

5201
03:00:20,350 --> 03:00:22,930
Yeah, I hit the button to move the

5202
03:00:22,930 --> 03:00:24,970
scroll and it shot to the top.

5203
03:00:25,470 --> 03:00:27,330
Dean Roker, 55-10.

5204
03:00:27,950 --> 03:00:31,190
Sir Nick in Knoxville, Tennessee, 52-72.

5205
03:00:31,410 --> 03:00:32,570
Is there anything in here he wants to

5206
03:00:32,570 --> 03:00:32,730
say?

5207
03:00:32,730 --> 03:00:34,730
Yeah, there's some make goods in here.

5208
03:00:34,850 --> 03:00:36,110
He says, as a follow-up to my

5209
03:00:36,110 --> 03:00:38,790
instant night donation show, 1807.

5210
03:00:38,850 --> 03:00:40,130
That's why we stop and read this.

5211
03:00:40,570 --> 03:00:42,590
And for novelty's sake, I'd love to include

5212
03:00:42,590 --> 03:00:44,330
a secretary of generalship as well as that.

5213
03:00:44,430 --> 03:00:45,550
Okay, yes, you're on the list.

5214
03:00:46,370 --> 03:00:48,050
He wants to be the secretary general of

5215
03:00:48,050 --> 03:00:48,650
the Daily Grind.

5216
03:00:48,650 --> 03:00:51,050
Additionally, I previously, I left out my request

5217
03:00:51,050 --> 03:00:54,950
for jobs karma and for the entire Mazzoni

5218
03:00:54,950 --> 03:00:56,830
clan baby-making karma.

5219
03:00:57,310 --> 03:01:00,150
Many thanks and kind regards, Sir Nick of,

5220
03:01:00,370 --> 03:01:02,610
Knight of Knoxville's 33rd Degree.

5221
03:01:03,090 --> 03:01:05,090
So jobs and baby karma will be at

5222
03:01:05,090 --> 03:01:06,070
the end of this list.

5223
03:01:07,090 --> 03:01:08,110
Baby-making karma.

5224
03:01:08,230 --> 03:01:11,150
Kent O'Rourke in Frostburg, Maryland, 52-72.

5225
03:01:11,570 --> 03:01:15,270
Baron Henry of the Outpost West in Rancho

5226
03:01:15,270 --> 03:01:17,990
Palos Verdes, California.

5227
03:01:17,990 --> 03:01:19,030
52-42.

5228
03:01:20,090 --> 03:01:23,990
Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri, 50-05.

5229
03:01:24,770 --> 03:01:26,130
And from there, we go to the $50

5230
03:01:26,130 --> 03:01:26,750
donors.

5231
03:01:26,990 --> 03:01:28,190
And this is just gonna be the names

5232
03:01:28,190 --> 03:01:29,770
and the locations of these people.

5233
03:01:30,330 --> 03:01:33,490
Starting with the Chris Cowan in Austin.

5234
03:01:35,950 --> 03:01:38,810
Madison Hardin in Fort Mill, South Carolina.

5235
03:01:38,990 --> 03:01:40,850
Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.

5236
03:01:41,110 --> 03:01:44,510
Noah McDonald in Traverse City, Michigan.

5237
03:01:45,230 --> 03:01:48,150
Terrence Boyer in Tuscola, Illinois.

5238
03:01:48,570 --> 03:01:52,730
Andrew Gusick in Greensboro, North Carolina.

5239
03:01:53,190 --> 03:01:56,170
Ryan Asito in Argyle, Texas.

5240
03:01:57,230 --> 03:02:01,110
Lisa Rosa in Highland Park, Illinois.

5241
03:02:02,190 --> 03:02:04,050
No King's Chuckles from Chicago.

5242
03:02:04,170 --> 03:02:05,410
She sent a note with some photos, I

5243
03:02:05,410 --> 03:02:05,630
guess.

5244
03:02:06,150 --> 03:02:08,530
Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington.

5245
03:02:08,750 --> 03:02:10,810
And last on the list, our buddy, the

5246
03:02:10,810 --> 03:02:13,230
Baron of Beaverton.

5247
03:02:13,230 --> 03:02:15,810
Alan Bain in Beaverton, Oregon.

5248
03:02:17,250 --> 03:02:18,990
And that's a group of well-wishers and

5249
03:02:18,990 --> 03:02:22,050
supporters and people that made show 180...

5250
03:02:22,050 --> 03:02:23,330
Is it 1809?

5251
03:02:23,630 --> 03:02:23,930
1809.

5252
03:02:23,950 --> 03:02:25,110
The possibility made it happen.

5253
03:02:25,450 --> 03:02:25,870
Thank you.

5254
03:02:25,930 --> 03:02:27,490
And thank you again to our executive and

5255
03:02:27,490 --> 03:02:30,130
associate executive producers for this episode.

5256
03:02:30,410 --> 03:02:32,050
Your credits are real and they are listed

5257
03:02:32,050 --> 03:02:33,610
in the show notes here as requested.

5258
03:02:33,770 --> 03:02:35,090
The jobs and baby-making karma.

5259
03:02:35,430 --> 03:02:38,490
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

5260
03:02:38,670 --> 03:02:40,170
Let's vote for jobs.

5261
03:02:45,700 --> 03:02:45,800
Karma.

5262
03:02:45,800 --> 03:02:46,360
Karma.

5263
03:02:46,940 --> 03:02:49,640
And I just realized I forgot Linda Lou

5264
03:02:49,640 --> 03:02:50,740
Patkins' jobs karma.

5265
03:02:50,860 --> 03:02:52,460
So we'll do a double jobs karma for

5266
03:02:52,460 --> 03:02:54,080
her on the next donation on the next

5267
03:02:54,080 --> 03:02:54,260
show.

5268
03:02:54,360 --> 03:02:55,120
Sorry about that, Linda.

5269
03:02:56,160 --> 03:02:57,740
Thank you again to these donors.

5270
03:02:58,940 --> 03:03:00,820
noagendadonations.com is where you can support us.

5271
03:03:00,860 --> 03:03:01,620
Value for value.

5272
03:03:01,720 --> 03:03:03,020
The system is very simple.

5273
03:03:03,100 --> 03:03:04,760
We've been doing it for almost 18 years.

5274
03:03:05,140 --> 03:03:06,560
If you get value out of the show,

5275
03:03:06,680 --> 03:03:07,420
support the show.

5276
03:03:07,620 --> 03:03:10,440
Send that money back in whatever is valuable

5277
03:03:10,440 --> 03:03:10,900
to you.

5278
03:03:11,060 --> 03:03:12,280
That's exactly how it works.

5279
03:03:12,280 --> 03:03:22,240
noagendadonations.com Paul wishes his smoking hot,

5280
03:03:22,340 --> 03:03:24,580
loving, resilient wife, Lauren, a happy birthday.

5281
03:03:24,760 --> 03:03:26,620
She turned 35 yesterday.

5282
03:03:27,020 --> 03:03:29,200
Sir Raquel turned crazy Steve.

5283
03:03:29,400 --> 03:03:32,060
Happy birthday to his wife Dame Dream Girl

5284
03:03:32,060 --> 03:03:32,620
Rose.

5285
03:03:32,840 --> 03:03:33,860
She celebrates today.

5286
03:03:34,320 --> 03:03:36,700
And Sarah Nielsen wishes her smoking hot husband,

5287
03:03:36,940 --> 03:03:38,140
Alex, a very happy birthday.

5288
03:03:38,240 --> 03:03:39,900
He turns 47 today.

5289
03:03:39,900 --> 03:03:42,280
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best

5290
03:03:42,280 --> 03:03:43,760
podcast in the universe.

5291
03:03:45,120 --> 03:03:47,960
Time now for that jingle that is the

5292
03:03:47,960 --> 03:03:49,320
earworm of the century.

5293
03:04:04,060 --> 03:04:05,000
That's right.

5294
03:04:05,080 --> 03:04:08,200
We have secretaries general to celebrate today.

5295
03:04:09,040 --> 03:04:12,000
We say congratulations to Secretary General of the

5296
03:04:12,000 --> 03:04:15,280
Daily Grind, Secretary General of Southern Nye County,

5297
03:04:15,460 --> 03:04:18,200
Land of Hookers and Blow, Secretary General of

5298
03:04:18,200 --> 03:04:20,500
the Shangri-La, and the Secretary General of

5299
03:04:20,500 --> 03:04:21,680
the Sunshine State.

5300
03:04:22,180 --> 03:04:23,960
Go to noagenderings.com.

5301
03:04:24,040 --> 03:04:25,660
Give us the information where to send this

5302
03:04:25,660 --> 03:04:29,060
very handsome secretaries general certificate to you.

5303
03:04:29,280 --> 03:04:30,600
It is well deserved.

5304
03:04:31,080 --> 03:04:33,460
Almost the last batch of the no agenda

5305
03:04:33,460 --> 03:04:35,080
secretaries general.

5306
03:04:50,380 --> 03:04:51,680
I'm going to miss the jingle.

5307
03:04:52,260 --> 03:04:53,520
Honestly, I'm going to miss it.

5308
03:04:53,540 --> 03:04:54,760
I love that jingle.

5309
03:04:54,900 --> 03:04:55,920
And I love my truck.

5310
03:04:56,120 --> 03:04:57,940
Time now for our no agenda meetups.

5311
03:05:04,300 --> 03:05:07,380
I got a couple of meetups taking place

5312
03:05:07,380 --> 03:05:07,920
today.

5313
03:05:08,660 --> 03:05:10,880
Pat's surprise birthday party in Michigan.

5314
03:05:11,460 --> 03:05:13,880
I guess the Michigan local one is already

5315
03:05:13,880 --> 03:05:14,980
doing this at two o'clock.

5316
03:05:15,100 --> 03:05:17,820
Horrocks Farm Market Beer Garden in Lansing, Michigan.

5317
03:05:18,420 --> 03:05:20,800
Thursday, our next show day, the happy birthday

5318
03:05:20,800 --> 03:05:24,800
no agenda meetup at Canyon's Crown in Tucson,

5319
03:05:25,080 --> 03:05:25,320
Arizona.

5320
03:05:25,320 --> 03:05:29,040
That is one show before the actual 18th

5321
03:05:29,040 --> 03:05:29,820
anniversary.

5322
03:05:30,360 --> 03:05:33,040
And that will start at 419 Arizona time

5323
03:05:33,040 --> 03:05:33,780
for some reason.

5324
03:05:33,940 --> 03:05:34,960
I'm not quite sure why.

5325
03:05:35,720 --> 03:05:37,800
Coming up, Los Altos, California.

5326
03:05:37,800 --> 03:05:39,440
The 25th Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.

5327
03:05:39,620 --> 03:05:41,240
The 26 Berlin, Germany.

5328
03:05:41,360 --> 03:05:43,160
Hello, Deutschland on the 27th.

5329
03:05:43,160 --> 03:05:44,620
Alpharetta, Georgia on the 30th.

5330
03:05:45,160 --> 03:05:47,820
Hello to the Hollanders in Leiden on the

5331
03:05:47,820 --> 03:05:48,640
31st.

5332
03:05:49,160 --> 03:05:50,080
Indianapolis, Indiana.

5333
03:05:50,240 --> 03:05:52,560
They will be back with their monthly meetup

5334
03:05:52,560 --> 03:05:54,560
on November 2nd, the 15th.

5335
03:05:54,600 --> 03:05:56,120
Another get John out of the house meetup

5336
03:05:56,120 --> 03:05:57,320
in Albany, California.

5337
03:05:57,800 --> 03:06:00,900
Zurich, Switzerland on the 15th and going all

5338
03:06:00,900 --> 03:06:01,680
the way through January.

5339
03:06:01,920 --> 03:06:03,140
Santa Rosa, California.

5340
03:06:03,640 --> 03:06:05,640
What we really like is when you send

5341
03:06:05,640 --> 03:06:06,660
us in a meetup report.

5342
03:06:06,660 --> 03:06:07,740
We appreciate those.

5343
03:06:07,840 --> 03:06:09,460
Of course, we love it when you include

5344
03:06:09,460 --> 03:06:10,060
your server.

5345
03:06:10,240 --> 03:06:11,840
If you want to find out where all

5346
03:06:11,840 --> 03:06:14,580
these no agenda meetups are taking place, go

5347
03:06:14,580 --> 03:06:16,100
to no agenda meetups dot com.

5348
03:06:16,360 --> 03:06:18,500
Remember, this is where you get the connection

5349
03:06:18,500 --> 03:06:20,960
that always brings you very important protection.

5350
03:06:21,080 --> 03:06:22,840
It is community, common unity.

5351
03:06:23,200 --> 03:06:23,780
That's right.

5352
03:06:23,860 --> 03:06:25,820
These are your first responders in any type

5353
03:06:25,820 --> 03:06:26,540
of disaster.

5354
03:06:26,980 --> 03:06:28,140
No agenda meetups dot com.

5355
03:06:28,200 --> 03:06:29,580
If you can't find one on the list,

5356
03:06:29,620 --> 03:06:30,220
no problem.

5357
03:06:30,520 --> 03:06:31,340
Start one yourself.

5358
03:06:31,340 --> 03:06:33,440
It's easy and always a party.

5359
03:06:52,660 --> 03:06:55,620
We got John's tip of the day coming

5360
03:06:55,620 --> 03:06:55,800
up.

5361
03:06:55,860 --> 03:06:57,380
Everybody loves the tip of the day.

5362
03:06:57,560 --> 03:07:00,060
They have been increasingly interesting as tips of

5363
03:07:00,060 --> 03:07:00,360
the day.

5364
03:07:00,360 --> 03:07:01,060
Everyone.

5365
03:07:01,280 --> 03:07:03,840
I saw the Manchurian candidate rocketed to the

5366
03:07:03,840 --> 03:07:04,840
top of the charts.

5367
03:07:04,980 --> 03:07:07,640
Everyone picking that one up from the classic

5368
03:07:07,640 --> 03:07:08,120
movies.

5369
03:07:09,380 --> 03:07:11,040
And before we do that, we always like

5370
03:07:11,040 --> 03:07:12,020
to take a look at some of the

5371
03:07:12,020 --> 03:07:12,560
end of show.

5372
03:07:12,620 --> 03:07:13,280
I said, what?

5373
03:07:13,620 --> 03:07:15,580
I don't see any ISOs on your list.

5374
03:07:15,800 --> 03:07:16,600
I have none.

5375
03:07:16,860 --> 03:07:18,180
I'm deferring.

5376
03:07:18,480 --> 03:07:19,520
Well, I have three.

5377
03:07:19,760 --> 03:07:20,660
You get to choose.

5378
03:07:20,780 --> 03:07:22,300
Hail to the king, baby.

5379
03:07:23,700 --> 03:07:25,820
Okay, we have this one.

5380
03:07:25,920 --> 03:07:26,680
Bye bye.

5381
03:07:26,860 --> 03:07:27,640
Bye bye.

5382
03:07:29,660 --> 03:07:31,380
And this one is a little long, but

5383
03:07:31,380 --> 03:07:32,200
I kind of liked it.

5384
03:07:32,380 --> 03:07:33,180
What are we doing?

5385
03:07:33,440 --> 03:07:34,840
You have a podcast, but you don't have

5386
03:07:34,840 --> 03:07:35,800
a YouTube channel.

5387
03:07:37,640 --> 03:07:39,520
Yes, that was sent in by someone.

5388
03:07:39,640 --> 03:07:40,700
Yeah, you don't like that one.

5389
03:07:41,780 --> 03:07:43,460
I do kind of like it.

5390
03:07:43,520 --> 03:07:45,260
But you know, when you bring in the

5391
03:07:45,260 --> 03:07:51,120
Jones material, there's no competition.

5392
03:07:52,460 --> 03:07:53,180
I agree.

5393
03:07:54,400 --> 03:07:55,340
AJ, it is.

5394
03:07:55,340 --> 03:07:57,520
But first, we have to listen to the

5395
03:07:57,520 --> 03:08:00,080
very important John Cena Borax tip of the

5396
03:08:00,080 --> 03:08:00,540
day.

5397
03:08:07,320 --> 03:08:12,980
Okay, this is a screwball tip.

5398
03:08:13,600 --> 03:08:15,180
This is for people who travel in Europe

5399
03:08:15,180 --> 03:08:15,940
by train.

5400
03:08:17,300 --> 03:08:19,160
Okay, everybody pay attention.

5401
03:08:19,320 --> 03:08:20,020
That's you.

5402
03:08:21,000 --> 03:08:23,600
It could be anybody because you get a

5403
03:08:23,600 --> 03:08:25,840
Eurorail pass, which Americans love to do.

5404
03:08:25,900 --> 03:08:26,920
And you just jump on the train.

5405
03:08:27,040 --> 03:08:27,820
You go from here to there.

5406
03:08:28,140 --> 03:08:29,120
But it's kind of a pain in the

5407
03:08:29,120 --> 03:08:30,300
ass to figure out where to go, how

5408
03:08:30,300 --> 03:08:30,640
to go.

5409
03:08:31,100 --> 03:08:32,680
Where is the schedules?

5410
03:08:33,500 --> 03:08:37,800
The Deutsche Bahn puts together a website for

5411
03:08:37,800 --> 03:08:38,960
everybody.

5412
03:08:39,180 --> 03:08:41,560
But there's an international travelers version, which is

5413
03:08:41,560 --> 03:08:42,460
the one I'm recommending.

5414
03:08:43,280 --> 03:08:45,580
And the website is int.

5415
03:08:47,680 --> 03:08:48,400
Exactly right.

5416
03:08:48,940 --> 03:08:49,960
Get it right now.

5417
03:08:51,900 --> 03:08:55,720
int.bahn, B-A-H-N, dot D

5418
03:08:55,720 --> 03:08:58,840
-E slash English, E-N.

5419
03:09:00,800 --> 03:09:02,280
I think if you don't put the E

5420
03:09:02,280 --> 03:09:03,200
-N, it still works.

5421
03:09:03,720 --> 03:09:06,440
But you can also look it up on

5422
03:09:06,440 --> 03:09:08,700
Google, a Deutsche Bahn international travel site.

5423
03:09:09,500 --> 03:09:10,860
You put in where you're going.

5424
03:09:11,000 --> 03:09:12,240
And this is for all of Europe.

5425
03:09:12,420 --> 03:09:13,960
And it includes the UK.

5426
03:09:14,900 --> 03:09:16,820
I don't know why they do this.

5427
03:09:16,820 --> 03:09:20,300
Because there's all these different competing operations in

5428
03:09:20,300 --> 03:09:22,380
Europe with the different train companies.

5429
03:09:22,960 --> 03:09:25,260
But you put in where you're starting and

5430
03:09:25,260 --> 03:09:26,160
where you want to go.

5431
03:09:26,920 --> 03:09:29,940
And it will take you from train to

5432
03:09:29,940 --> 03:09:32,360
train to train, show you what platform you're

5433
03:09:32,360 --> 03:09:35,780
landing on, what platform to go to to

5434
03:09:35,780 --> 03:09:37,460
transfer to the next train.

5435
03:09:38,580 --> 03:09:41,200
At what time the train comes in and

5436
03:09:41,200 --> 03:09:43,380
at what time the next train leaves and

5437
03:09:43,380 --> 03:09:44,700
what platform it's on.

5438
03:09:45,020 --> 03:09:46,260
It's unbelievable.

5439
03:09:46,260 --> 03:09:48,960
If you happen to be traveling through Europe

5440
03:09:48,960 --> 03:09:50,140
in Deutschland.

5441
03:09:50,380 --> 03:09:56,140
Well, Europe, Eastern Europe, Middle Europe, England, all

5442
03:09:56,140 --> 03:09:57,040
the way up to Sweden.

5443
03:09:57,260 --> 03:09:59,700
It's just astonishing that they have this and

5444
03:09:59,700 --> 03:10:02,480
it's well-structured, very easy to deal with.

5445
03:10:02,580 --> 03:10:04,240
They've changed the interface a little bit.

5446
03:10:04,280 --> 03:10:06,700
I used to use this a lot, you

5447
03:10:06,700 --> 03:10:10,820
know, 20 years ago or 30 years ago.

5448
03:10:10,920 --> 03:10:11,340
Yeah.

5449
03:10:11,900 --> 03:10:15,320
And I thought the layout was a little

5450
03:10:15,320 --> 03:10:17,380
nicer when it was more old-fashioned.

5451
03:10:19,100 --> 03:10:20,340
But it still works.

5452
03:10:20,360 --> 03:10:21,860
That's because you like blink tags.

5453
03:10:22,620 --> 03:10:24,540
There was no blink tags involved.

5454
03:10:25,220 --> 03:10:27,460
And the cat running across the bottom.

5455
03:10:27,640 --> 03:10:28,540
That's what I was missing.

5456
03:10:29,000 --> 03:10:30,060
There it is, everybody.

5457
03:10:30,220 --> 03:10:31,980
Find them all at tipoftheday.net.

5458
03:10:32,060 --> 03:10:33,040
John's Tip of the Day.

5459
03:10:42,340 --> 03:10:43,640
Created by Dana Brunetti.

5460
03:10:44,220 --> 03:10:46,220
And in the show notes, I just added

5461
03:10:46,220 --> 03:10:46,500
it.

5462
03:10:46,820 --> 03:10:50,140
A 1989 interview I did with Ace Frehley

5463
03:10:50,140 --> 03:10:54,540
on the Headbangers Ball, which I cannot remember.

5464
03:10:55,420 --> 03:10:57,160
But it did happen, apparently.

5465
03:10:57,880 --> 03:10:58,620
You were a pothead.

5466
03:11:00,080 --> 03:11:00,860
Oh, that's why.

5467
03:11:00,980 --> 03:11:02,060
Yeah, now I remember.

5468
03:11:02,280 --> 03:11:02,600
Thanks.

5469
03:11:02,800 --> 03:11:03,820
Thanks for reminding me.

5470
03:11:05,340 --> 03:11:07,700
That's it for No Agenda for today.

5471
03:11:07,700 --> 03:11:10,200
But we will be back in just a

5472
03:11:10,200 --> 03:11:11,080
few short days.

5473
03:11:11,220 --> 03:11:12,440
Thursday, our next show day.

5474
03:11:12,700 --> 03:11:14,860
There will be plenty to deconstruct.

5475
03:11:14,920 --> 03:11:16,140
No doubt about it.

5476
03:11:16,180 --> 03:11:17,860
There's always something happening in your world.

5477
03:11:17,980 --> 03:11:19,220
If you want to know what's really going

5478
03:11:19,220 --> 03:11:22,200
on, don't get confused by the mainstream media.

5479
03:11:22,820 --> 03:11:24,680
Let us deconstruct it for you.

5480
03:11:24,820 --> 03:11:26,360
That includes podcasts.

5481
03:11:28,400 --> 03:11:30,400
Coming up next on your No Agenda stream.

5482
03:11:30,580 --> 03:11:32,920
Oh, Salty Crayon with some value for value

5483
03:11:32,920 --> 03:11:34,040
music, upbeats.

5484
03:11:34,660 --> 03:11:36,100
It's a great show if you want to

5485
03:11:36,100 --> 03:11:39,480
hear some cool music that you may not

5486
03:11:39,480 --> 03:11:40,340
hear anywhere else.

5487
03:11:40,760 --> 03:11:42,160
An end of show mixes from our very

5488
03:11:42,160 --> 03:11:44,100
own Clip Custodian Neil Jones.

5489
03:11:44,300 --> 03:11:48,420
And we've got, uh, uh, what was it?

5490
03:11:48,480 --> 03:11:51,080
Jeff, uh, Jeff and his buddy.

5491
03:11:51,220 --> 03:11:51,560
I'm sorry.

5492
03:11:51,660 --> 03:11:52,520
I forgot who you were.

5493
03:11:53,240 --> 03:11:55,440
Uh, with a toe tapper soon to be

5494
03:11:55,440 --> 03:11:57,000
in the No Agenda the musical.

5495
03:11:57,740 --> 03:11:58,700
Coming to you from the heart of the

5496
03:11:58,700 --> 03:11:59,840
Texas Hill Country in the morning.

5497
03:11:59,940 --> 03:12:00,940
Everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

5498
03:12:01,540 --> 03:12:04,480
And from the northern Silicon Valley, I'm John

5499
03:12:04,480 --> 03:12:04,780
C.

5500
03:12:04,980 --> 03:12:05,380
Dvorak.

5501
03:12:05,380 --> 03:12:08,500
Remember us at noagendadonation.com until Thursday.

5502
03:12:08,680 --> 03:12:10,300
Adios, mofos, a hui hui and such.

5503
03:12:10,320 --> 03:12:12,180
A planted gun was referred to by the

5504
03:12:12,180 --> 03:12:14,300
detective as a ham sandwich.

5505
03:12:14,880 --> 03:12:16,900
Every cop that I knew carried a ham

5506
03:12:16,900 --> 03:12:17,320
sandwich.

5507
03:12:17,460 --> 03:12:18,220
A ham sandwich.

5508
03:12:19,140 --> 03:12:20,160
A ham sandwich.

5509
03:12:21,020 --> 03:12:24,980
Is a clean gun that they would take

5510
03:12:24,980 --> 03:12:27,140
and put it in like an old pair

5511
03:12:27,140 --> 03:12:29,940
of jeans or britches or whatever you want

5512
03:12:29,940 --> 03:12:30,360
to call it.

5513
03:12:30,620 --> 03:12:31,980
And they'd let it sit there and get

5514
03:12:31,980 --> 03:12:32,680
some lint on it.

5515
03:12:38,100 --> 03:12:41,840
Grand jury is where you go to indict

5516
03:12:41,840 --> 03:12:43,340
the ham sandwich.

5517
03:12:44,880 --> 03:12:46,360
A ham sandwich.

5518
03:12:47,060 --> 03:12:48,360
Grand jury.

5519
03:12:49,100 --> 03:12:50,360
The ham sandwich.

5520
03:12:51,700 --> 03:12:53,120
Grand jury.

5521
03:12:53,840 --> 03:12:54,640
A ham sandwich.

5522
03:12:55,640 --> 03:12:57,060
The ham sandwich.

5523
03:12:58,020 --> 03:13:00,620
So you carried around a gun to plan

5524
03:13:00,620 --> 03:13:01,140
on suspects?

5525
03:13:01,660 --> 03:13:02,180
Yeah, of course.

5526
03:13:02,980 --> 03:13:03,900
A ham sandwich.

5527
03:13:04,640 --> 03:13:05,900
A ham sandwich.

5528
03:13:06,100 --> 03:13:08,120
Hey, this was an underground culture.

5529
03:13:08,260 --> 03:13:10,100
They would carry around something they call a

5530
03:13:10,100 --> 03:13:12,120
ham sandwich, and they would plant that ham

5531
03:13:12,120 --> 03:13:14,800
sandwich at the scene of officer-involved shootings.

5532
03:13:17,100 --> 03:13:18,880
Because it sounds so official.

5533
03:13:19,440 --> 03:13:20,800
A ham sandwich.

5534
03:13:20,800 --> 03:13:20,900
A ham sandwich.

5535
03:14:18,000 --> 03:14:24,340
Cry, cry, baby, cry.

5536
03:14:26,540 --> 03:14:30,380
Blue cry, nothing but blue cry.

5537
03:14:31,760 --> 03:14:35,480
Cry, baby, cry.

5538
03:14:37,660 --> 03:14:41,980
Blue cry, nothing but blue cry.

5539
03:14:43,540 --> 03:14:46,780
Cry, baby, cry.

5540
03:14:54,050 --> 03:14:58,490
The best podcast in the universe.

5541
03:14:58,670 --> 03:14:59,090
Adios.

5542
03:14:59,450 --> 03:14:59,950
Mopo.

5543
03:15:00,010 --> 03:15:03,430
Dvorak.org slash N-A.

5544
03:15:03,950 --> 03:15:04,830
Bye-bye.

5545
03:15:05,050 --> 03:15:05,770
Bye-bye.