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I don't understand why they don't think I'm

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Adam Curry, John C.

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Devorah.

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It's Thursday, July 3rd, 2025.

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This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media

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Assassination Episode 1778.

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This is no agenda.

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Counting the magic minutes and broadcasting live from

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the heart of the Texas Hill Country here

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in FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning,

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everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.

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And from northern Silicon Valley, where all our

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fireworks were destroyed.

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I'm John C.

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Devorah.

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This is Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.

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Yeah, man, did you see that thing blow?

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Yeah.

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That was crazy.

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You know, I have a firework explosion story

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from when I was, I want to say

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Well, before you tell the story, we should

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mention what we're talking about.

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You brought it up, you should mention it.

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We have a warehouse, I guess, in Yolo

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County, a little town.

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Yolo.

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And it blew up completely.

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Taken out most of the fireworks.

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So half the fireworks displays in California won't

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be happening.

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Now it killed seven people, but the seven

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people are just basically missing.

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I didn't even know that part.

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That sucks.

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By missing, we mean...

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Blown to smithereens.

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Yeah, smithereens.

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I think I was 11, and this is

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in Holland.

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My, this was for, they don't have a

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4th of July, obviously.

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They do have New Year's.

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And in the Netherlands, New Year's, everybody...

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They don't have a 4th of July.

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They go from July 3rd to July 5th.

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They just skip right over it.

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It's just done.

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It's like they eliminated it from the calendar.

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So New Year's Eve, of course, New Year's,

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they go nuts.

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I mean, anyone's ever been in the Netherlands,

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it's nuts.

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And it's two weeks before and two weeks

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Everybody's just so jacked about their fireworks.

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Because in good socialist manner, that's the only

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time of the year when you can just

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go nuts.

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Everything else is shut up, slaves, sit down

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and listen to what, do what you're told.

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So I was with a friend and his

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family.

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of like a vacation park where you have

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little bungalows.

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were up on the loft bed.

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the fireworks.

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the firecrackers, you know, looking at them.

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younger brother.

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Thing blows up right into the box of

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fireworks.

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And it's mayhem in this little house.

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and they, you know, they doused water on

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destroyed.

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different perspective of fireworks.

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I'm not such a fan anymore.

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That's a decent story.

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I still usually didn't lose an eye.

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There's no injury.

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But man, to this day, I still kind

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of feel bad about playing with the kids.

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They were the worst.

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So as we speak on this Thursday at

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a little after one o'clock in the

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Central Time Zone, the big beautiful bill is

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being voted on.

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Everyone's losing their health care.

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We're all going to die.

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We're going to there's going to be no

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money left.

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We got the deficit for our children, our

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grandchildren, our children's children.

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You've got your four boxes up there.

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Jeffrey's finally stopped talking.

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Finally, finally.

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record.

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He went nine hours or something.

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Yuck, yuck.

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Well, I actually got a an interesting analysis

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from CNN of all places about this magic

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minute that he was going for.

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Because apparently to go a little bit longer

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than what was the Republican who did it

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last?

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What's his name?

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He used to be speaker, the Speaker of

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the House guy got kicked out.

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McCarthy?

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Yeah, McCarthy.

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He went for eight hours and so many

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minutes.

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Will he make it longer?

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But CNN had an uncharacteristically good analysis of

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what is going on.

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Because none of this is about the bill.

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It's all about the midterms.

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It's all about the Democrats wanting to win

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a majority in the Senate, in the House.

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And no one cares about you, America.

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This is the big secret.

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Not the Republicans, not the Democrats.

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They all care about winning in the midterms.

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Seven hours and counting on the right side

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of your screen.

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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries still holding the

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floor, delivering a marathon speech in opposition to

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President Trump's massive agenda bill.

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Republicans are poised to pass that bill despite

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his efforts there.

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But will Jeffrey's magic minute give Democrats some

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renewed energy as they plot their course forward?

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That is certainly what they're hoping.

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My panel is back.

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Isaac, you have covered Hakeem Jeffries for-

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Many years.

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Take us inside the strategy that we're seeing

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play out right now.

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Yeah, I think it's less important for him

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to beat the Kevin McCarthy record here at

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1.30 or whatever point he'll pass that

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than what he actually has already achieved, which

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is that this vote was supposed to happen

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between 6 and 8 a.m., when few

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people would have been awake or paying attention

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It will now happen at some point in

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the middle of the day when more people

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are paying attention to it.

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specifically call out Republican members of Congress in

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districts that the Democrats are going to go

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after quite hard next year.

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It started yesterday.

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The Democrats, before the voting began, did an

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event on the steps of the Capitol.

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And he's picked up on this in his

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speech saying about Rob Bresnahan in Pennsylvania or

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Young Kim in California.

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These members that, again, they want to go

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after and saying these are the number of

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their constituents that are going to lose their

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health coverage, lose their nutritional assistance, all these

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sorts of things.

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And that, again, happening in the middle of

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the day rather than before most people had

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breakfast or were out of bed is what

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the objective is.

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Yes.

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The whole idea is to scare everybody that

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you're going to lose your health care.

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Do they think that anybody is, oh, we're

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going to delay it till afternoon.

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So more people.

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Nobody's paid.

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Nobody who who's who's the people they're talking

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about that are going to be paying attention

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in the afternoon and aren't going to be

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paying attention at six in the morning?

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No, you're correct.

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It's really because CNN doesn't want to have

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to do all this crap in the middle

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of the night.

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Could you guys please move that to the

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afternoon so we can grab our clips?

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Then we don't want to have to get

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up early.

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And that's more like it.

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Yes, of course.

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And here is even play some a little

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mini cut of the clips we shall discuss.

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they consider the moderate Republicans that they are

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going after.

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I want to play kind of a mashup

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of some of what we are hearing from

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the past.

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It's called a super clip, a super cut

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or a mini cut.

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In your case, it's not a mashup.

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Seven hours of mashup.

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Listen carefully to one example of exactly what

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Isaac was talking about.

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His fellow New Yorker Nick Lulota, who is

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a Republican from who knows if it's a

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swing district, but they certainly hope so in

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the Democratic Party.

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Listen, I'm going to take my time and

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ensure that the American people fully understand how

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damaging this bill will be to their quality

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of life as a result of the lack.

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Of health care that will result directly from

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this one big, ugly bill, people in America,

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by the way, weak, is that all you

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could come up with is big, ugly bill.

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That's the only you couldn't come up with

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a better acronym of health care that will

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result directly from this one big, ugly bill.

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People in America will die on necessary.

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Mr. Speaker, in New York's first congressional district,

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represented by our colleague, Congressman Nick Lulota, people

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will die.

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Approximately 50,000 will die.

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New Yorkers will lose their health care.

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It's a crime scene.

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It's a crime scene.

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Going after the health and the safety and

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the well-being of the American people.

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And Mr. Speaker, we want no part of

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it.

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No one, no part of the crime scene.

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And this and this works, by the way.

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You know, I thought it was more fun

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personally when I think when Mitt Romney was

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running, when it was or when it was

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the midterm and like, they're going to kill

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granny.

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And then, you know, the the commercials of

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Republicans pushing an old granny in a wheelchair

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off the cliff, that was great.

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That was creative.

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This is just in.

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But of course, as even CNN will point

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out, this is all about the clips.

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So I totally take your point about him

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wanting this to be a vote in the

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light of day and not early in the

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morning and about these stories to be playing

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out.

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But we all know how people consume information.

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It's about clips.

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So now they are building a set of

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clips with all of these examples, which I

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am sure we will see in various places

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to try to make.

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Where's the mashup?

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That was that was the mashup with a

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mashup.

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She placed two lone clips or even one

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that three, three.

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It was three.

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It was no good.

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It was not a mashup.

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It was nothing.

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It was crap.

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That was from earlier because they had to

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have the intern do it because no one

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wants to work early.

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So they're hoping to get some stuff done

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around noon, will you?

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So we can get it done then.

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Lives a little bit more difficult.

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Right.

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I think what happens after the bill passes

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is the president and his allies have to

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sell the bill and Democrats have to continue

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what they've been doing.

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They have actually done a relatively good job.

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Again, it's not about the bill.

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It's about the midterms.

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Despite their many challenges right now, but Democrats

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have actually done a relatively good job of

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driving the message, which is a fairly easy

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message to drive that this is a tax

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cut for the rich that will take benefits

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away from the poor.

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And they are selling that.

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It is showing up in polling.

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The president and his team have to figure

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out how to say, no, that's not it.

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This is a working class tax cut.

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And the thing about our information environment is

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it's going to take repetition.

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It's going to take repetition for the Democrats.

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It's going to take repetition from President Trump

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and Republicans.

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President Trump does have the advantage of being

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sort of a broken record.

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He's very good at repetition and was talking

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to a Republican consultant today who said, yeah,

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you're going to hear him talking about this

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a lot.

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So it's so obvious what they want to

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do here because these things don't even go

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into effect until in fact until after the

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midterms.

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So they're going you're going to be this

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is going to be thrown at us day

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in, day out.

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They're taking away your nutritional benefits.

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They're taking away your Medicaid.

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You're going to die.

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Your health care, your health care.

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I mean, we can discuss we can talk.

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We can let the other side talk on

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NPR, the New York Republican.

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I also did just go through the bill

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and not just the the health care parts.

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But there's a lot of other interesting stuff

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in there.

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I'm sure there's more interesting stuff in there

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that they're never going to talk about.

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Oh, yes.

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I mean, if you just want to understand

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the Medicaid provisions and man, there was so

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much so many psyops going on, the Democrats

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introduced some kind of crazy amendment that's you

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know, that that would keep illegals on the

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on Medicaid.

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And it was like it was worded.

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It was worded in a way that when

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the amendment got voted down, it looked like

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the Republicans wanted to have illegal immigrants on

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Medicaid.

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And there were some like the former Newsweek

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lady.

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What's her name?

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Batch of it.

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She forget her name.

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She was like, I can't believe it.

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I can't believe the Republicans want to have

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illegal immigrants and health care.

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I'm just going on and on.

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And they fell for it.

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It was then Roseanne.

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They fell for it.

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Well, before you do your analysis, I have

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the clips from NPR.

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Oh, the one with the Republican from New

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York?

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No, no.

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OK, all right.

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No, these are no, I do.

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I have this.

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I have four clips from NPR.

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One is the update, but then it's followed

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by three clips where they brought in experts

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to slam the bill, slam it, rail against

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it.

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And there was no again on NPR.

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There was no balance.

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There was nobody on the other side saying,

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well, there's this the good side is this,

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this and this.

404
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No, no, no, no.

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It was just slam, slam, slam, slam, slam,

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which is, you know.

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And by the way, in between all that,

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they keep playing this.

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They keep playing this one NPR missive about,

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oh, my God, they're taking our money away.

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They say that we're biased.

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Oh, let's play this right off the bat

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to start to start this thing of this

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public media funding lament this.

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They play this every hour.

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And on NPR, the House of Representatives has

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approved a White House request to claw back

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two years of previously approved funding for public

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media.

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The rescissions package now moves on to the

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Senate.

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This move poses a serious threat to local

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stations and public media as we know it.

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Please take a stand for public media today

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at go ACPR dot org.

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Thank you.

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Hey, do you have that xylophone still?

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Plum, plum, plum, plum, plum.

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Don't you have a xylophone somewhere?

430
00:14:53,830 --> 00:14:54,990
I never had a xylophone.

431
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I thought you or someone something.

432
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Oh, no.

433
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I know what you mean.

434
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Yeah.

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That little electronic device.

436
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Yeah.

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The batteries are dead.

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OK.

439
00:15:05,830 --> 00:15:06,850
The batteries are dead.

440
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You know, it's just the way it goes.

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Yeah.

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So that so they're playing this all.

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It's supposedly 1 percent.

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And they're whining about this 1 percent.

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00:15:14,830 --> 00:15:14,990
OK.

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00:15:15,290 --> 00:15:17,970
What's the what's that website address at the

447
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end?

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ACPR dot org.

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Go ACPR.

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ACPR.

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Go ACPR.

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00:15:25,970 --> 00:15:27,890
Go ACPR.

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That's not a that's it was confused.

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Oh, here's public radio is fighting to survive.

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We need to.

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Oh, it just changed.

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American Coalition for Public Radio.

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Oh, oh, go take action.

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I'm taking action.

460
00:15:43,090 --> 00:15:46,170
Public action is in jeopardy, is in jeopardy.

461
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Who are these?

462
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Who are these guys in jeopardy?

463
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Jeopardy 1 percent.

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If this if they said they told us

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it was 1 percent.

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Yes.

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So how does that make it in jeopardy?

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I'm taking action.

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I don't care what you say.

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I'm taking action.

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Dear lawmaker, public radio brings music, the arts

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and local culture into our homes.

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We don't need any of that.

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We got the Internet.

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We got tick tock.

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Cutting funding would erase programs that enrich your

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communities and support creative voices.

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Tick tock people with blue hair.

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Please protect the federal funding that makes this

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possible.

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Oppose rescission.

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Rescission.

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Rescission.

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What an odd word.

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Rescission.

486
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Why was that?

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Rescission.

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Rescission.

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The act of rescinding the cancellation of a

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contract.

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Rescission.

492
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That's not great marketing.

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Oppose rescission today and save local.

494
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Local public radio.

495
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Oh, you can submit a video message.

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Yes.

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This is a break the glass moment.

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Says that.

499
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Yeah.

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Public radio faces the biggest threat in its

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history.

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One percent.

503
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One percent.

504
00:16:57,310 --> 00:16:58,790
They said so themselves.

505
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Share a personalized message voicing your support now.

506
00:17:03,329 --> 00:17:07,750
Oh, just so you know, the proposal to

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eliminate federal funding, including a new plan to

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rescind previously approved funding, threaten to dismantle the

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very infrastructure that keeps 99 percent of Americans

510
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informed, safe and connected.

511
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I dispute that.

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I would say the Internet keeps 99 percent

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of Americans misinformed, safe and connected.

514
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Yeah.

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Anyway.

516
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Okay.

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So, well, that was fun.

518
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I'm glad you caught that.

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So we can skip the update and go

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to the slams.

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Slam.

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Okay.

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This will be BBB updates.

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Slam one.

525
00:17:48,970 --> 00:17:50,070
Policy bill passed the Senate.

526
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It's now being considered in the House.

527
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It would cut trillions of dollars in taxes,

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mostly for the well off to help offset

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that.

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It would also make the biggest cuts to

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the social safety net in decades.

532
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Is that a class?

533
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The well off?

534
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Is that if you're well, I haven't heard

535
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that term probably for 20 years.

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The well off.

537
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That is kind of interesting.

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The well off.

539
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The well, you know, well to do.

540
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Yes.

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The rich.

542
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The well off.

543
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You're well off.

544
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Hey, boy, you're well off.

545
00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:19,690
You mean like Brook Gladstone, who makes $370

546
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,000 a year just for hosting This American

547
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Life?

548
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Once a week show?

549
00:18:25,710 --> 00:18:27,530
No, no, it's not Brook Gladstone.

550
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That's, is that Brook Gladstone?

551
00:18:31,090 --> 00:18:33,230
No, Brook Gladstone does it on the media.

552
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Yeah, yeah.

553
00:18:33,690 --> 00:18:34,910
Who does This American Life?

554
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She makes $370,000 a year just for

555
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hosting that show.

556
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And that's good money.

557
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It's great money.

558
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That's what you want that 1% for.

559
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You know what you are when you have

560
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that kind of money?

561
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Well off is what I would say.

562
00:18:47,310 --> 00:18:47,630
You're well off.

563
00:18:47,670 --> 00:18:48,670
You're well off, yes.

564
00:18:48,770 --> 00:18:50,070
Policy bill passed the Senate.

565
00:18:50,210 --> 00:18:51,930
It's now being considered in the House.

566
00:18:52,330 --> 00:18:54,410
It would cut trillions of dollars in taxes,

567
00:18:54,590 --> 00:18:56,570
mostly for the well off to help offset

568
00:18:56,570 --> 00:18:56,850
that.

569
00:18:56,910 --> 00:18:58,610
It would also make the biggest cuts to

570
00:18:58,610 --> 00:19:00,030
the social safety net in decades.

571
00:19:00,030 --> 00:19:00,470
Hold on, stop.

572
00:19:02,070 --> 00:19:06,670
So if everybody's paying taxes and taxes are

573
00:19:06,670 --> 00:19:12,590
cut by, like, let's say 2%, it's going

574
00:19:12,590 --> 00:19:15,050
to benefit the richest people the most because

575
00:19:15,050 --> 00:19:16,450
they're paying the most taxes.

576
00:19:17,230 --> 00:19:18,350
Which is logical.

577
00:19:18,450 --> 00:19:20,410
Oh, why are you trying to refute this?

578
00:19:20,510 --> 00:19:22,450
This is not even, this is beneath you.

579
00:19:22,450 --> 00:19:25,350
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry for interrupting my

580
00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:25,990
own clip.

581
00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:27,050
This is beneath you.

582
00:19:27,170 --> 00:19:28,930
It's to things like food aid.

583
00:19:29,290 --> 00:19:30,290
And here's Jennifer Ludden.

584
00:19:30,290 --> 00:19:31,910
To walk us through the latest.

585
00:19:32,050 --> 00:19:32,370
Hi there.

586
00:19:32,970 --> 00:19:33,450
Hi there.

587
00:19:33,910 --> 00:19:36,550
Jennifer, NPR has reported a lot on changes

588
00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:38,750
to Medicaid, which provides health care for some

589
00:19:38,750 --> 00:19:42,830
70 million low-income elderly and disabled Americans.

590
00:19:43,050 --> 00:19:43,910
That's you, John.

591
00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:46,770
Scaling it back has been controversial even among

592
00:19:46,770 --> 00:19:47,970
congressional Republicans.

593
00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:50,030
Can you just briefly explain to us what's

594
00:19:50,030 --> 00:19:50,910
included in the Senate bill?

595
00:19:51,050 --> 00:19:51,390
Please.

596
00:19:51,810 --> 00:19:53,430
Right, and with the reminder, as you said,

597
00:19:53,490 --> 00:19:55,610
lawmakers in both chambers still have to agree

598
00:19:55,610 --> 00:19:56,610
on one version.

599
00:19:56,610 --> 00:19:59,430
But the Senate version would cut Medicaid spending

600
00:19:59,430 --> 00:20:01,970
even more than the House had by about

601
00:20:01,970 --> 00:20:03,290
a trillion dollars.

602
00:20:03,730 --> 00:20:06,030
Now, it's mainly through a new requirement that

603
00:20:06,030 --> 00:20:07,670
people would have to work at least 80

604
00:20:07,670 --> 00:20:09,470
hours a month unless they're exempt.

605
00:20:10,010 --> 00:20:11,270
And over all the- Stop.

606
00:20:12,010 --> 00:20:13,690
Okay, that's a lie.

607
00:20:14,350 --> 00:20:18,210
Must work, volunteer, or attend school for at

608
00:20:18,210 --> 00:20:19,850
least 80 hours a month.

609
00:20:20,030 --> 00:20:21,730
That's not just must work.

610
00:20:22,250 --> 00:20:22,650
Yep, yep, yep.

611
00:20:22,650 --> 00:20:24,790
That is lying by omission.

612
00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:26,770
Lying by omission, I tell you.

613
00:20:27,610 --> 00:20:27,710
Yep.

614
00:20:28,170 --> 00:20:29,030
By the way- Good catch.

615
00:20:29,370 --> 00:20:29,690
Yes.

616
00:20:30,010 --> 00:20:32,290
The House version, which I have no idea

617
00:20:32,290 --> 00:20:35,210
what's going on here, exempts parents of dependent

618
00:20:35,210 --> 00:20:37,470
children, seniors, and people with disabilities.

619
00:20:37,690 --> 00:20:38,250
All you.

620
00:20:38,550 --> 00:20:39,350
So you're exempt.

621
00:20:39,490 --> 00:20:41,110
That people would have to work at least

622
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:43,290
80 hours a month unless they're exempt.

623
00:20:43,690 --> 00:20:46,710
And over all, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office

624
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:50,430
says this package could cause nearly 12 million

625
00:20:50,430 --> 00:20:52,790
people to lose health insurance over the next

626
00:20:52,790 --> 00:20:53,190
decade.

627
00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:55,990
So in my clips, we'll get to the

628
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:56,570
CBO.

629
00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:58,170
Which is, of course, a lot of people.

630
00:20:58,290 --> 00:20:59,130
I want to turn to some of the

631
00:20:59,130 --> 00:21:01,250
safety net cuts that haven't gotten as much

632
00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:03,410
attention, like food benefits.

633
00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:04,870
Tell us what could happen there.

634
00:21:05,310 --> 00:21:05,710
Yes, yes.

635
00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:08,750
So more than 40 million people get food

636
00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:10,830
stamps, as they're known, or SNAP.

637
00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:13,310
It's the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

638
00:21:13,770 --> 00:21:15,790
It would lose 20% of its funding,

639
00:21:15,930 --> 00:21:17,710
and that's the largest cut in its history.

640
00:21:18,090 --> 00:21:20,050
Now, this is also partly from a change

641
00:21:20,050 --> 00:21:22,170
to its existing work requirement.

642
00:21:22,170 --> 00:21:24,850
The Senate bill bumps up the age people

643
00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:27,090
have to work by a decade, until age

644
00:21:27,090 --> 00:21:27,950
65.

645
00:21:28,450 --> 00:21:30,310
And parents who used to be exempt would

646
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:31,910
now have to work if their kids were

647
00:21:31,910 --> 00:21:33,050
14 or older.

648
00:21:33,470 --> 00:21:35,790
Now, as with Medicaid, one concern is that

649
00:21:35,790 --> 00:21:37,710
people would run into red tape trying to

650
00:21:37,710 --> 00:21:38,790
prove they're working.

651
00:21:39,270 --> 00:21:41,850
The CBO estimates this change could push more

652
00:21:41,850 --> 00:21:44,170
than 2 million people off food aid.

653
00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:47,810
It's incredible what they're doing here.

654
00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:50,350
When I was 14, I was a latchkey

655
00:21:50,350 --> 00:21:50,830
kid.

656
00:21:50,830 --> 00:21:52,290
My mom worked.

657
00:21:52,450 --> 00:21:53,510
My dad worked.

658
00:21:53,930 --> 00:21:54,530
Oh, boo.

659
00:21:54,810 --> 00:21:56,810
Oh, if you have 14-year-old kids,

660
00:21:56,930 --> 00:22:00,310
let them roam the streets like ragamuffins, like

661
00:22:00,310 --> 00:22:00,810
ruffians.

662
00:22:01,850 --> 00:22:03,390
Ragamuffin is another good one.

663
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:05,090
Let them roam the streets.

664
00:22:05,290 --> 00:22:08,470
So you're getting the idea that this is

665
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:10,150
not a balanced presentation.

666
00:22:10,510 --> 00:22:11,590
I think you're correct.

667
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:12,970
I think you're correct, yes.

668
00:22:12,970 --> 00:22:15,150
This is why they're getting their funding pulled,

669
00:22:15,310 --> 00:22:17,510
because the taxpayer should not be paying for

670
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:19,510
biased presentations like this.

671
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:21,350
I bitch about this constantly.

672
00:22:21,490 --> 00:22:23,010
To be fair, the clips that I have

673
00:22:23,010 --> 00:22:26,470
from NPR do represent the other side, even

674
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:30,570
though the host is hemming and hawing throughout

675
00:22:30,570 --> 00:22:30,910
it.

676
00:22:32,110 --> 00:22:36,430
Well, there's a difference between finding what you

677
00:22:36,430 --> 00:22:39,690
found and somebody just making a straight-up

678
00:22:39,690 --> 00:22:41,230
presentation with no pushback.

679
00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:41,590
Yes.

680
00:22:41,730 --> 00:22:46,170
In other words, it's not giving us any

681
00:22:46,170 --> 00:22:47,050
perspective whatsoever.

682
00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:48,590
Fox News is fair and balanced.

683
00:22:49,610 --> 00:22:51,210
Fox News is not much better.

684
00:22:51,410 --> 00:22:53,270
But I don't think Fox News takes government

685
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:53,590
money.

686
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:54,470
Maybe they do.

687
00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:54,990
Who knows?

688
00:22:55,890 --> 00:22:57,710
Fox News, well, not that I know of

689
00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:57,890
either.

690
00:22:58,050 --> 00:22:58,910
Yes, you might be right.

691
00:22:59,050 --> 00:22:59,670
Okay, onward.

692
00:22:59,790 --> 00:23:00,050
Okay.

693
00:23:00,510 --> 00:23:02,050
Now, a couple more things, Fun Food Aid.

694
00:23:02,210 --> 00:23:04,430
The spending package makes it harder for states

695
00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:07,570
to waive these work requirements, and conservatives have

696
00:23:07,570 --> 00:23:09,090
long argued that it's just too easy.

697
00:23:09,170 --> 00:23:10,890
You've got entire states where they're waived.

698
00:23:11,230 --> 00:23:12,910
The Senate bill says you could only get

699
00:23:12,910 --> 00:23:14,290
a waiver if you live in a place

700
00:23:14,290 --> 00:23:17,090
with an unemployment rate above 10 percent, so

701
00:23:17,090 --> 00:23:17,630
quite high.

702
00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:20,850
And finally, for the first time, the federal

703
00:23:20,850 --> 00:23:23,090
government would not pay for all food aid.

704
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:25,510
Most states would have to chip in, which

705
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:27,570
sounds like a really big change for states.

706
00:23:27,610 --> 00:23:28,230
So how does that work?

707
00:23:28,890 --> 00:23:31,090
Yeah, it's tied to how much states have

708
00:23:31,090 --> 00:23:33,150
over or underpaid for SNAP.

709
00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:36,350
Researchers say these error rates are mostly unintentional,

710
00:23:36,650 --> 00:23:38,510
but it would mean that most states would

711
00:23:38,510 --> 00:23:40,170
now have to pick up between 5 and

712
00:23:40,170 --> 00:23:42,150
15 percent of food aid costs.

713
00:23:42,370 --> 00:23:43,290
Holy moly.

714
00:23:43,290 --> 00:23:45,690
The left-leaning Center on Budget and Policy

715
00:23:45,690 --> 00:23:49,070
Priorities says this undermines the whole guarantee that

716
00:23:49,070 --> 00:23:51,150
people in need should get food aid no

717
00:23:51,150 --> 00:23:52,350
matter where they live.

718
00:23:52,730 --> 00:23:54,370
And she says if states faced a budget

719
00:23:54,370 --> 00:23:56,830
crunch, they might shrink their SNAP program or

720
00:23:56,830 --> 00:23:57,950
even opt out altogether.

721
00:23:58,430 --> 00:24:01,030
So this is really a proposal that fundamentally

722
00:24:01,030 --> 00:24:04,530
changes the structure of SNAP, jeopardizes food assistance

723
00:24:04,530 --> 00:24:06,470
for millions of low-income families.

724
00:24:06,730 --> 00:24:08,870
This is the same as you won't have

725
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:10,390
access to vaccines.

726
00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:11,990
It's exactly the same thing.

727
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:15,630
And saying health care is like health care

728
00:24:15,630 --> 00:24:16,170
insurance.

729
00:24:16,510 --> 00:24:17,950
It's payment for health care.

730
00:24:17,950 --> 00:24:18,750
You can get health care.

731
00:24:19,450 --> 00:24:21,110
You can go in any emergency room.

732
00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:23,030
You will not be turned away, unfortunately.

733
00:24:23,410 --> 00:24:27,050
This is a very contentious point.

734
00:24:27,130 --> 00:24:27,710
What do you mean, unfortunately?

735
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:29,710
You want people dropping dead in the streets?

736
00:24:29,970 --> 00:24:33,270
Well, I speak to firefighters all the time,

737
00:24:33,670 --> 00:24:36,810
and they are obligated at a 911 call

738
00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:39,290
to go and help these people.

739
00:24:39,290 --> 00:24:42,050
It's by law, regardless of what it is.

740
00:24:42,250 --> 00:24:44,310
And it's like, well, I'm, you know, I

741
00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:45,770
need an aspirin.

742
00:24:46,050 --> 00:24:48,010
And, you know, it's literally, could you go

743
00:24:48,010 --> 00:24:49,530
to the, could you grab my cigarettes from

744
00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:50,170
the table there?

745
00:24:50,250 --> 00:24:51,470
I'm too obese to get up.

746
00:24:52,330 --> 00:24:55,130
And if it is anything beyond what they

747
00:24:55,130 --> 00:24:56,450
have in their kit, I don't even think

748
00:24:56,450 --> 00:24:58,110
they can give them an aspirin.

749
00:24:58,290 --> 00:25:00,170
They have to take them to the emergency

750
00:25:00,170 --> 00:25:00,590
room.

751
00:25:00,970 --> 00:25:03,710
That is enshrined in state law everywhere.

752
00:25:04,670 --> 00:25:05,690
That's the problem.

753
00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:06,990
That's the problem.

754
00:25:07,170 --> 00:25:09,450
That is one of many problems.

755
00:25:09,770 --> 00:25:13,550
Firefighters know this, and while doing their job,

756
00:25:13,610 --> 00:25:14,650
they get shot at and killed.

757
00:25:14,790 --> 00:25:16,290
So this is dandy.

758
00:25:16,590 --> 00:25:19,390
And could end SNAP as a nationwide program.

759
00:25:19,790 --> 00:25:21,310
Jennifer, I want to ask you about something

760
00:25:21,310 --> 00:25:22,690
that got quite a bit of attention for

761
00:25:22,690 --> 00:25:25,850
reducing poverty temporarily during the coronavirus pandemic, which

762
00:25:25,850 --> 00:25:28,030
is the federal child tax credit.

763
00:25:28,370 --> 00:25:29,350
Any big changes there?

764
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:31,850
I guess they're not as big as some

765
00:25:31,850 --> 00:25:34,550
were calling for during the 2024 election, including

766
00:25:34,550 --> 00:25:36,230
now Vice President J.D. Vance.

767
00:25:36,750 --> 00:25:38,990
The Senate bill does boost the tax credit

768
00:25:38,990 --> 00:25:41,750
from $2,000 per child to $2,200,

769
00:25:42,150 --> 00:25:44,210
and that would rise with inflation.

770
00:25:45,090 --> 00:25:47,410
But unlike during the pandemic, lawmakers did not

771
00:25:47,410 --> 00:25:50,410
expand this to include the lowest income families.

772
00:25:50,810 --> 00:25:53,010
And currently, they don't qualify for that full

773
00:25:53,010 --> 00:25:54,750
credit because they just don't earn enough.

774
00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:58,370
And also, SNAP had a huge industry lobby

775
00:25:58,370 --> 00:25:59,990
against proposed changes.

776
00:25:59,990 --> 00:26:01,850
I have not seen, well, I have not,

777
00:26:02,570 --> 00:26:05,530
if I saw it, it didn't stick with

778
00:26:05,530 --> 00:26:05,730
me.

779
00:26:07,370 --> 00:26:11,850
The carbonated drinks, fizzy drinks, the Coca-Colas

780
00:26:11,850 --> 00:26:15,010
of the world put together a huge lobby

781
00:26:15,010 --> 00:26:20,970
against taking soft drinks off of SNAP, which

782
00:26:20,970 --> 00:26:22,870
is kind of a logical thing that, no,

783
00:26:22,930 --> 00:26:24,390
you shouldn't be able to buy this with

784
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:26,810
your supplemental nutrition payments.

785
00:26:27,330 --> 00:26:29,510
Yeah, you shouldn't be buying cola.

786
00:26:30,210 --> 00:26:32,270
And in fact, I don't think we talked

787
00:26:32,270 --> 00:26:34,290
about it much, if at all, but they

788
00:26:34,290 --> 00:26:37,290
had a huge influencer campaign, which included a

789
00:26:37,290 --> 00:26:41,510
lot of conservative podcasters and influencers who all

790
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:43,750
took money to say, oh, no, no, you

791
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:44,470
shouldn't do this.

792
00:26:44,550 --> 00:26:46,870
You know, really, we need to have this

793
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:47,410
on SNAP.

794
00:26:47,710 --> 00:26:48,630
I'm paraphrasing.

795
00:26:48,830 --> 00:26:50,430
Oh, yeah, it was a huge thing.

796
00:26:50,990 --> 00:26:52,890
And then a couple got outed.

797
00:26:53,010 --> 00:26:57,270
And then all these other conservative, right-leaning

798
00:26:57,270 --> 00:27:00,950
influencers and podcasters went, yeah, I'm really sorry

799
00:27:00,950 --> 00:27:01,750
I took that money.

800
00:27:01,810 --> 00:27:02,710
I shouldn't have done that.

801
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:04,690
Then it was thousands of dollars in some

802
00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:05,110
cases.

803
00:27:05,790 --> 00:27:08,810
Oh, yeah, this is the dirty side of

804
00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:09,330
politics.

805
00:27:09,610 --> 00:27:11,490
That's a scandal what you just said.

806
00:27:11,610 --> 00:27:12,370
Yeah, well.

807
00:27:13,390 --> 00:27:14,890
Podcasters selling out.

808
00:27:16,510 --> 00:27:17,030
What?

809
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:17,830
Gambling?

810
00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:22,590
All right, slam three.

811
00:27:23,210 --> 00:27:23,470
Yeah.

812
00:27:24,030 --> 00:27:26,350
Sophie Collier is with the Center on Poverty

813
00:27:26,350 --> 00:27:28,450
and Social Policy at Columbia University.

814
00:27:28,910 --> 00:27:30,770
And she says for her, this really reflects

815
00:27:30,770 --> 00:27:33,450
the overall tilt of this tax and spending

816
00:27:33,450 --> 00:27:35,130
package in favor of the wealthy.

817
00:27:35,650 --> 00:27:37,090
Even this small provision that is kind of

818
00:27:37,090 --> 00:27:41,030
meant to help families is not reaching the

819
00:27:41,030 --> 00:27:42,610
children and families where it could do the

820
00:27:42,610 --> 00:27:46,970
most good, where that $200 actually could be

821
00:27:46,970 --> 00:27:47,650
more meaningful.

822
00:27:48,330 --> 00:27:49,530
Jennifer, I'll let you have the last word

823
00:27:49,530 --> 00:27:49,730
here.

824
00:27:49,730 --> 00:27:50,870
Anything else we should note?

825
00:27:51,930 --> 00:27:54,290
Yes, another key change to the child tax

826
00:27:54,290 --> 00:27:54,610
credit.

827
00:27:54,790 --> 00:27:56,990
At least one parent now would need a

828
00:27:56,990 --> 00:27:58,170
Social Security number.

829
00:27:58,550 --> 00:28:00,510
And Collier says by one estimate, that could

830
00:28:00,510 --> 00:28:03,910
disqualify 2.6 million children who are U

831
00:28:03,910 --> 00:28:06,170
.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents.

832
00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:08,050
And I should just add there are provisions

833
00:28:08,050 --> 00:28:10,590
in the package that would also cut federal

834
00:28:10,590 --> 00:28:13,590
health care and food benefits for some immigrants

835
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:14,770
with legal status.

836
00:28:15,170 --> 00:28:15,490
All right.

837
00:28:15,530 --> 00:28:17,650
So that's really what it comes down to.

838
00:28:17,650 --> 00:28:20,090
Most of this is blue states.

839
00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:21,450
I'll just run through it quickly.

840
00:28:22,050 --> 00:28:25,170
So yes, adults age 19 to 64 enrolled

841
00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:28,870
in Medicaid through the Affordable Care Act expansion,

842
00:28:29,090 --> 00:28:30,610
which is the expansion to states.

843
00:28:31,870 --> 00:28:34,690
You have to work, volunteer, or attend school

844
00:28:34,690 --> 00:28:36,550
for at least 80 hours if you're eligible.

845
00:28:37,230 --> 00:28:39,970
And exemptions are pregnant women, caregivers of children

846
00:28:39,970 --> 00:28:41,190
under 14, et cetera.

847
00:28:41,970 --> 00:28:42,930
Here's a big one.

848
00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:46,870
The states will have to verify compliance every

849
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:47,710
30 days.

850
00:28:47,870 --> 00:28:49,550
Well, we can't have that.

851
00:28:50,970 --> 00:28:55,410
Then we have the CBO estimate savings, which

852
00:28:55,410 --> 00:29:00,610
you can take or leave, increased eligibility, redetermination.

853
00:29:00,890 --> 00:29:05,210
So that's the verifying ACA expansion enrollees.

854
00:29:05,330 --> 00:29:07,190
See, the states got all this extra money

855
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:10,890
to expand Medicare and they gave it Medicaid

856
00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:13,570
and they gave it mostly to illegal immigrants.

857
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:15,950
And that's what this is cutting out.

858
00:29:16,610 --> 00:29:18,650
And so now the states will have to

859
00:29:18,650 --> 00:29:21,650
impose a copayment of $35.

860
00:29:22,830 --> 00:29:23,430
Okay.

861
00:29:23,570 --> 00:29:27,470
So I'm not downplaying $35 as being a

862
00:29:27,470 --> 00:29:30,070
lot or not, but it's hardly you're dead.

863
00:29:32,250 --> 00:29:36,810
And then the bill limits states' ability to

864
00:29:36,810 --> 00:29:39,290
impose taxes on health care providers.

865
00:29:40,890 --> 00:29:43,110
And I'm not quite sure whose side that

866
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:44,650
comes from or what that's about.

867
00:29:44,970 --> 00:29:45,650
I'm not sure.

868
00:29:45,730 --> 00:29:48,450
That's probably just to screw Democrat states, no

869
00:29:48,450 --> 00:29:48,830
doubt.

870
00:29:51,450 --> 00:29:55,310
Then there's new requirements to include monthly verification

871
00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:58,790
to ensure providers aren't excluded from other state

872
00:29:58,790 --> 00:30:00,990
Medicaid programs because there's a lot of double

873
00:30:00,990 --> 00:30:01,950
dipping going on.

874
00:30:02,890 --> 00:30:07,670
And then there's the specific restrictions, gender affirming

875
00:30:07,670 --> 00:30:10,510
care, Planned Parenthood, et cetera.

876
00:30:10,890 --> 00:30:13,750
So that's really what is in there about

877
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:14,190
Medicaid.

878
00:30:15,050 --> 00:30:17,150
And if you look, well, to be fair

879
00:30:17,150 --> 00:30:20,390
and to be fair and balanced, let's get

880
00:30:20,390 --> 00:30:24,890
the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez version of this big,

881
00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:25,930
beautiful bill.

882
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:29,830
President Trump, you're either being lied to or

883
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:33,850
you are lying to the American people because

884
00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:37,150
this bill represents in the text of this

885
00:30:37,150 --> 00:30:40,990
bill, the largest and greatest loss of health

886
00:30:40,990 --> 00:30:43,470
care in American history.

887
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:48,110
Seventeen million Americans will lose their health care.

888
00:30:48,190 --> 00:30:48,850
This is great.

889
00:30:48,970 --> 00:30:50,370
I mean, it's always been 11.

890
00:30:50,610 --> 00:30:51,370
I've heard 12.

891
00:30:51,610 --> 00:30:53,390
But AOC has 17 now.

892
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:55,810
It started actually around five.

893
00:30:56,830 --> 00:30:59,510
Somebody documented a jacking up every time somebody

894
00:30:59,510 --> 00:31:01,670
next guy talks, they top the last one.

895
00:31:01,770 --> 00:31:02,230
This is great.

896
00:31:03,050 --> 00:31:03,150
History.

897
00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:05,630
And she was she was she was swinging

898
00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:08,110
her hips and she was she was getting

899
00:31:08,110 --> 00:31:08,530
mad.

900
00:31:09,270 --> 00:31:12,830
Seventeen million Americans will lose their health care

901
00:31:12,830 --> 00:31:13,610
on this bill.

902
00:31:13,910 --> 00:31:18,030
Not undocumented people, not, quote, unquote, the disgusting

903
00:31:18,030 --> 00:31:20,930
term illegal, but 17 million.

904
00:31:21,250 --> 00:31:22,770
Disgusting term illegal.

905
00:31:22,990 --> 00:31:23,170
What?

906
00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:24,490
Why is that disgusting?

907
00:31:24,890 --> 00:31:25,790
Why is that disgusting?

908
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:28,230
Because no person can be illegal.

909
00:31:28,410 --> 00:31:28,890
Oh, that's right.

910
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:30,630
No, no, no human.

911
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:32,210
No human is illegal.

912
00:31:32,570 --> 00:31:33,770
No human can be illegal.

913
00:31:33,950 --> 00:31:34,170
Unquote.

914
00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:36,190
The disgusting term illegal.

915
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:40,750
But 17 million Americans will have their health

916
00:31:40,750 --> 00:31:44,110
care Americans from this bill on this point

917
00:31:44,110 --> 00:31:46,630
of tax on tips as one of the

918
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:48,830
only people in this body who has lived

919
00:31:48,830 --> 00:31:49,670
off of tips.

920
00:31:49,910 --> 00:31:51,570
I want to tell you a little bit

921
00:31:51,570 --> 00:31:52,410
about the scam.

922
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:54,830
That's pretty telling if that's true.

923
00:31:55,290 --> 00:31:57,410
If she is the only person in this

924
00:31:57,410 --> 00:31:59,030
body who lived on tips.

925
00:31:59,030 --> 00:32:00,810
Let's let's face reality.

926
00:32:01,010 --> 00:32:02,090
That's probably not true.

927
00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:04,890
But but I'd like to know how the

928
00:32:04,890 --> 00:32:07,410
Democrats, when they turn on a dime on

929
00:32:07,410 --> 00:32:11,570
this, have suddenly forgotten that Kamala made a

930
00:32:11,570 --> 00:32:12,410
big stink about.

931
00:32:12,550 --> 00:32:12,810
Yes.

932
00:32:13,030 --> 00:32:14,070
No tax on tips.

933
00:32:14,350 --> 00:32:16,170
She introduced it to her platform.

934
00:32:16,330 --> 00:32:18,850
The Democrats accept it as a platform item.

935
00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:20,970
But now they're pushing it back on it.

936
00:32:21,010 --> 00:32:23,770
Well, what so you're telling me they were

937
00:32:23,770 --> 00:32:25,130
insincere earlier?

938
00:32:25,290 --> 00:32:26,230
I think so.

939
00:32:26,450 --> 00:32:27,470
As one of the by the way, the

940
00:32:27,470 --> 00:32:28,610
bill just passed the House.

941
00:32:28,610 --> 00:32:31,170
Only people in this body who has lived

942
00:32:31,170 --> 00:32:31,990
off of tips.

943
00:32:32,530 --> 00:32:32,810
I want to.

944
00:32:32,890 --> 00:32:34,630
But I guess the reason we're doing this

945
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:36,970
is so that people understand because this doesn't

946
00:32:36,970 --> 00:32:39,370
come into effect until December of twenty twenty

947
00:32:39,370 --> 00:32:39,830
six.

948
00:32:40,290 --> 00:32:41,870
So and that's for a reason.

949
00:32:42,370 --> 00:32:45,610
This is all going to be midterm jockeying

950
00:32:45,610 --> 00:32:46,390
for position.

951
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:47,630
Yeah, it's fodder.

952
00:32:47,630 --> 00:32:48,630
It's total fodder.

953
00:32:48,790 --> 00:32:50,390
As one of the only people in this

954
00:32:50,390 --> 00:32:52,370
body who has lived off of tips.

955
00:32:52,590 --> 00:32:54,290
I want to tell you a little bit

956
00:32:54,290 --> 00:32:56,510
about the scam of that text, a little

957
00:32:56,510 --> 00:32:58,250
bit of the fine print there.

958
00:32:58,410 --> 00:33:02,210
The cap on that is twenty five thousand

959
00:33:02,210 --> 00:33:03,190
dollars.

960
00:33:03,370 --> 00:33:03,950
That's true.

961
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:07,030
That is the cap on taxing your tips

962
00:33:07,030 --> 00:33:09,030
up to twenty five thousand dollars that she

963
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:09,250
has.

964
00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:09,690
That number.

965
00:33:09,770 --> 00:33:10,090
Correct.

966
00:33:10,550 --> 00:33:13,290
While you're jacking up taxes on people who

967
00:33:13,290 --> 00:33:16,830
make less than fifty thousand dollars across the

968
00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:17,930
United States.

969
00:33:18,110 --> 00:33:19,130
That I don't see.

970
00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:21,490
I don't see where people making less than

971
00:33:21,490 --> 00:33:23,570
fifty thousand dollars will be paying more in

972
00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:23,950
taxes.

973
00:33:24,150 --> 00:33:25,390
I have not seen.

974
00:33:25,390 --> 00:33:25,870
I don't.

975
00:33:26,590 --> 00:33:28,010
That's the first I've heard of that.

976
00:33:28,330 --> 00:33:28,810
I've heard of it.

977
00:33:28,970 --> 00:33:32,010
While taking away their snap, while taking away

978
00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:34,890
their Medicaid, while taking kicking them off of

979
00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:36,910
the ACA and their health care extension.

980
00:33:37,290 --> 00:33:37,390
No.

981
00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:39,290
So if you're at home and you're living

982
00:33:39,290 --> 00:33:41,350
off tips, you do the math.

983
00:33:41,710 --> 00:33:43,790
Hold on, get your calculator.

984
00:33:44,030 --> 00:33:45,050
I got to do the math.

985
00:33:45,330 --> 00:33:46,570
Is that not allowed to do your own

986
00:33:46,570 --> 00:33:47,470
math and research?

987
00:33:47,710 --> 00:33:50,490
Worth it to you losing all your health

988
00:33:50,490 --> 00:33:52,990
care, not able to feed, feed your babies,

989
00:33:53,150 --> 00:33:54,750
not being able to put a diaper on

990
00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:55,350
their bottom.

991
00:33:55,490 --> 00:33:59,050
It specifically says if you have babies or

992
00:33:59,050 --> 00:34:00,730
one on the way, you're not going to

993
00:34:00,730 --> 00:34:02,090
get kicked off of anything.

994
00:34:02,350 --> 00:34:03,550
So that's just not true.

995
00:34:03,970 --> 00:34:04,790
Losing life.

996
00:34:04,910 --> 00:34:05,390
That's a lie.

997
00:34:05,510 --> 00:34:07,790
Your health care, not able to feed, feed

998
00:34:07,790 --> 00:34:09,710
your babies, not being able to put a

999
00:34:09,710 --> 00:34:12,270
diaper on their bottom in exchange for what?

1000
00:34:12,489 --> 00:34:12,889
What?

1001
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:16,190
This bill is a deal with the devil.

1002
00:34:16,449 --> 00:34:16,909
The devil.

1003
00:34:17,489 --> 00:34:19,370
Explodes our national debt.

1004
00:34:20,429 --> 00:34:24,469
Militarizes our entire economy and it strips away.

1005
00:34:24,810 --> 00:34:25,150
By the way.

1006
00:34:25,210 --> 00:34:26,810
OK, first, let me just back up because

1007
00:34:26,810 --> 00:34:28,290
I've read most of this.

1008
00:34:28,429 --> 00:34:29,949
Not all, but I've read most of it.

1009
00:34:29,969 --> 00:34:31,370
The important parts, I think I've got.

1010
00:34:31,449 --> 00:34:32,110
So let's see this.

1011
00:34:32,409 --> 00:34:34,170
Explodes our national debt.

1012
00:34:34,590 --> 00:34:37,010
Actually, it reduces our national debt.

1013
00:34:37,110 --> 00:34:40,310
And I think I can show that over

1014
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:41,170
10 years.

1015
00:34:41,610 --> 00:34:43,050
And of course, there's a big piece of

1016
00:34:43,050 --> 00:34:44,770
it where we're going to we're going to

1017
00:34:44,770 --> 00:34:46,270
grow faster than the debt.

1018
00:34:46,330 --> 00:34:47,130
OK, sure.

1019
00:34:47,130 --> 00:34:50,310
OK, with President Trump, maybe, maybe.

1020
00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:50,969
I don't know.

1021
00:34:51,150 --> 00:34:53,670
It militarizes our entire economy.

1022
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:54,889
Yes, that is correct.

1023
00:34:54,989 --> 00:34:57,350
It will militarize our entire economy.

1024
00:34:57,690 --> 00:34:59,190
And that is what every economy in the

1025
00:34:59,190 --> 00:35:01,770
world is doing right now, because the green.

1026
00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:02,670
The entire economy.

1027
00:35:02,850 --> 00:35:04,610
So when I go to the Monterey Foods

1028
00:35:04,610 --> 00:35:05,510
to buy mushrooms.

1029
00:35:05,710 --> 00:35:07,130
That's your militarizing.

1030
00:35:07,410 --> 00:35:09,830
I'm militarizing the mushroom grower.

1031
00:35:10,070 --> 00:35:11,130
What are you talking about?

1032
00:35:11,650 --> 00:35:14,190
No, there's a lot of money for military

1033
00:35:14,190 --> 00:35:15,730
industrial complex.

1034
00:35:15,930 --> 00:35:17,090
No, she said entire economy.

1035
00:35:17,090 --> 00:35:17,790
I know.

1036
00:35:18,130 --> 00:35:21,050
But but there's there's 30 million people minimum

1037
00:35:21,050 --> 00:35:22,430
in this in this deal now.

1038
00:35:22,510 --> 00:35:25,550
So she's not she's exaggerating.

1039
00:35:26,110 --> 00:35:27,670
But there is some truth to it.

1040
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:28,930
The whole world is.

1041
00:35:29,110 --> 00:35:31,070
That's our new industrial base.

1042
00:35:31,290 --> 00:35:33,270
Yeah, well, dude, she and that's this is

1043
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:33,670
new.

1044
00:35:34,570 --> 00:35:36,370
Well, no economy.

1045
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:40,690
And it strips away health care and basic

1046
00:35:40,690 --> 00:35:44,390
dignity of the American people for what?

1047
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:45,930
No, it doesn't strip away.

1048
00:35:45,930 --> 00:35:48,210
Give Elon Musk a tax break.

1049
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:51,530
This Elon Musk hates the bill.

1050
00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:55,250
Elon Musk says it's a five trillion dollar

1051
00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:55,990
spending bill.

1052
00:35:56,090 --> 00:35:56,930
He's gone all the way.

1053
00:35:57,230 --> 00:35:59,470
It was two trillion, three trillion.

1054
00:35:59,630 --> 00:36:01,670
Now, Elon Musk is five trillion dollars.

1055
00:36:01,790 --> 00:36:03,750
Do the math at home, people to give

1056
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:05,490
my calculator doesn't go to trillion.

1057
00:36:06,130 --> 00:36:07,370
Hold on a minute.

1058
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:12,130
So she's basically not keeping tabs on the

1059
00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:14,050
political situation as Elon Musk.

1060
00:36:14,050 --> 00:36:15,890
No big mistake.

1061
00:36:16,210 --> 00:36:17,290
This is a big mistake.

1062
00:36:17,310 --> 00:36:20,790
She should have said even Elon Musk is

1063
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:21,470
embarrassed.

1064
00:36:22,290 --> 00:36:23,030
That's what she should have.

1065
00:36:23,170 --> 00:36:24,350
She should have gone with that.

1066
00:36:24,570 --> 00:36:24,850
Yeah.

1067
00:36:24,910 --> 00:36:28,330
Or or mention some other evil person that,

1068
00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:30,390
you know, gets getting the tax break, the

1069
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:31,810
Trump family or anything.

1070
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:33,150
But Elon Musk.

1071
00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:33,350
Yeah.

1072
00:36:33,450 --> 00:36:35,490
Fox News, the Murdochs, anything.

1073
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:35,870
Yeah.

1074
00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:36,330
The Murdoch.

1075
00:36:36,930 --> 00:36:37,410
Oops.

1076
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:37,930
I'm sorry.

1077
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:38,710
They're our side.

1078
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:43,630
Basic dignity of the American people for what?

1079
00:36:43,790 --> 00:36:46,610
To give Elon Musk a tax break and

1080
00:36:46,610 --> 00:36:50,070
billionaires, the greedy taking of our nation.

1081
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:52,090
We cannot stand for it and we will

1082
00:36:52,090 --> 00:36:53,330
not support it.

1083
00:36:53,450 --> 00:36:54,970
You should be ashamed.

1084
00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:57,150
Ashamed, ashamed, ashamed.

1085
00:36:57,450 --> 00:36:57,810
All right.

1086
00:36:57,830 --> 00:36:59,610
So I'm going to play these quick clips

1087
00:36:59,610 --> 00:36:59,850
here.

1088
00:36:59,950 --> 00:37:05,450
This is the New York representative, Mike Lawler.

1089
00:37:05,710 --> 00:37:07,190
I didn't even know New York had a

1090
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:08,430
Republican representing them.

1091
00:37:08,430 --> 00:37:09,330
But they do apparently.

1092
00:37:09,530 --> 00:37:12,710
And he goes on NPR and he says,

1093
00:37:12,770 --> 00:37:15,130
you know, CBO is wrong.

1094
00:37:15,570 --> 00:37:17,670
Over the next decade, we're projected to spend

1095
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:21,710
86 trillion dollars as a country, federal government.

1096
00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:24,490
And we're talking about one point six trillion

1097
00:37:24,490 --> 00:37:26,970
in savings over the course of the 10

1098
00:37:26,970 --> 00:37:27,210
years.

1099
00:37:27,230 --> 00:37:29,130
That amounts to about one point eight percent

1100
00:37:29,130 --> 00:37:30,830
of overall spending.

1101
00:37:30,970 --> 00:37:33,650
So, you know, as we start to bend

1102
00:37:33,650 --> 00:37:36,790
the curve with two trillion dollar deficit, I

1103
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:40,350
love, you know, everybody bending it like Beckham.

1104
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:42,210
We're we're not reducing the deficit.

1105
00:37:42,450 --> 00:37:44,010
We're bending the curve.

1106
00:37:44,210 --> 00:37:46,510
You see, I'm bending the curve.

1107
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:48,330
So this is like a kind of a

1108
00:37:48,330 --> 00:37:50,690
take on a flat curve.

1109
00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:51,390
Yes.

1110
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:53,090
So now they're going to bend the curve,

1111
00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:55,750
the curve of overall spending.

1112
00:37:55,830 --> 00:37:58,550
So, you know, as we start to bend

1113
00:37:58,550 --> 00:38:02,110
the curve with two trillion dollar deficits, you

1114
00:38:02,110 --> 00:38:05,430
know, everybody, Republicans and Democrats need to get

1115
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:07,070
serious about tackling our debt.

1116
00:38:07,290 --> 00:38:09,590
Let me just jump in here.

1117
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:11,590
The Congressional Budget Office found that the spending

1118
00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:13,730
bill would add roughly three trillion dollars to

1119
00:38:13,730 --> 00:38:15,290
the deficit over the next decade.

1120
00:38:15,410 --> 00:38:17,450
So to your mind, are you concerned about

1121
00:38:17,450 --> 00:38:18,710
growing the nation said it sounds like you

1122
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:18,810
are.

1123
00:38:18,890 --> 00:38:19,430
What should be done?

1124
00:38:20,530 --> 00:38:24,210
So CBO has consistently been wrong in its

1125
00:38:24,210 --> 00:38:28,690
pronouncements, including seven years ago when they undercut

1126
00:38:28,690 --> 00:38:31,290
revenue by a trillion dollars on the Tax

1127
00:38:31,290 --> 00:38:34,050
Cuts and Jobs Act, which we now know

1128
00:38:34,050 --> 00:38:37,430
has produced the largest revenue that the federal

1129
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:38,810
government has ever seen.

1130
00:38:39,310 --> 00:38:42,010
The question is, how do we start to

1131
00:38:42,010 --> 00:38:47,450
right size our spending where we're running two

1132
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:49,130
trillion dollar deficits?

1133
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:53,530
And what you're seeing is over 10 years,

1134
00:38:53,830 --> 00:38:56,150
a reduction in spending by one point six

1135
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:57,250
trillion dollars.

1136
00:38:57,530 --> 00:39:02,350
You're going to see economic growth, you know,

1137
00:39:02,510 --> 00:39:04,410
two, three, four percent.

1138
00:39:05,650 --> 00:39:07,870
By the way, two, three, four percent is,

1139
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:10,150
you know, there's a 100 percent difference in

1140
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:10,830
those numbers.

1141
00:39:11,390 --> 00:39:13,130
So two to four is a big difference.

1142
00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:15,330
But OK, for the life of the bill,

1143
00:39:15,350 --> 00:39:19,010
which is going to be critical, grow our

1144
00:39:19,010 --> 00:39:21,890
economy and start to move things in the

1145
00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:25,650
right direction, reducing our deficits and reining in

1146
00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:26,290
our debt.

1147
00:39:26,290 --> 00:39:29,030
This is a big challenge and something that's

1148
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:31,230
going to require both parties just to really

1149
00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:32,670
focus on this coming decade.

1150
00:39:32,910 --> 00:39:33,890
Chomping at the bit here.

1151
00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:34,290
Chomp.

1152
00:39:34,410 --> 00:39:35,830
OK, but what about all the people who

1153
00:39:35,830 --> 00:39:36,570
are going to die?

1154
00:39:36,830 --> 00:39:37,830
I want to just jump in here because

1155
00:39:37,830 --> 00:39:39,490
earlier you mentioned some of the concerns that

1156
00:39:39,490 --> 00:39:41,550
you've been discussing, including those around health care

1157
00:39:41,550 --> 00:39:42,170
and Medicaid.

1158
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:43,130
And she talked.

1159
00:39:43,290 --> 00:39:44,270
Hold on, back it off.

1160
00:39:44,290 --> 00:39:45,430
She's very animated.

1161
00:39:45,650 --> 00:39:47,150
She is a fast talker.

1162
00:39:47,290 --> 00:39:50,070
Yes, this is Juana Summers.

1163
00:39:50,510 --> 00:39:51,290
Juana Summers.

1164
00:39:51,550 --> 00:39:53,530
Bring back, you know, Scott Simon's being inducted

1165
00:39:53,530 --> 00:39:54,950
into the Radio Hall of Fame.

1166
00:39:56,290 --> 00:39:57,030
Did you know that?

1167
00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:59,570
What first first diction?

1168
00:40:00,030 --> 00:40:00,870
I don't know.

1169
00:40:01,190 --> 00:40:02,070
I don't know.

1170
00:40:02,190 --> 00:40:02,770
Let's go back.

1171
00:40:02,910 --> 00:40:03,370
Where are we?

1172
00:40:03,490 --> 00:40:04,450
I want to just jump in here because

1173
00:40:04,450 --> 00:40:06,070
earlier you mentioned some of the concerns that

1174
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:08,130
you've been discussing, including those around health care

1175
00:40:08,130 --> 00:40:08,710
and Medicaid.

1176
00:40:09,290 --> 00:40:11,590
And there are estimates, according to CBO, that

1177
00:40:11,590 --> 00:40:13,470
maybe they're all doing coke at NPR these

1178
00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:13,750
days.

1179
00:40:13,850 --> 00:40:15,150
I don't know this possible.

1180
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:18,050
Twelve million people will lose health care coverage,

1181
00:40:18,170 --> 00:40:19,470
including Medicaid coverage.

1182
00:40:19,830 --> 00:40:22,750
If this bill becomes law, Congressman Lawler, given

1183
00:40:22,750 --> 00:40:24,770
that roughly a quarter of the people in

1184
00:40:24,770 --> 00:40:26,830
your district in New York, some 200,000

1185
00:40:26,830 --> 00:40:27,590
people are on Medicaid.

1186
00:40:27,790 --> 00:40:28,810
That's according to KFF.

1187
00:40:29,070 --> 00:40:29,570
I'm going to die.

1188
00:40:29,850 --> 00:40:32,030
Are you concerned about what the cuts enshrined

1189
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:33,790
in this legislation would mean to the people

1190
00:40:33,790 --> 00:40:35,150
who live in your district?

1191
00:40:35,410 --> 00:40:38,230
Please, again, let's actually focus what's in the

1192
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:40,770
bill and not what is the Democrat talking

1193
00:40:40,770 --> 00:40:41,170
point.

1194
00:40:41,570 --> 00:40:44,750
The fact is that you have eligibility verification,

1195
00:40:45,130 --> 00:40:48,070
making sure that people who are not supposed

1196
00:40:48,070 --> 00:40:51,210
to be collecting Medicaid benefits are no longer

1197
00:40:51,210 --> 00:40:54,650
receiving those benefits that they're not entitled to.

1198
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:57,670
Second is citizenship verification to make sure that

1199
00:40:57,670 --> 00:41:00,610
illegal immigrants are not collecting Medicaid benefits.

1200
00:41:00,770 --> 00:41:03,290
Right now you have 1.4 million illegal

1201
00:41:03,290 --> 00:41:05,830
immigrants collecting Medicaid benefits.

1202
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:07,730
That is wrong, fundamentally.

1203
00:41:08,430 --> 00:41:09,990
And third is work requirements.

1204
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:12,370
You have nearly 4 million people who are

1205
00:41:12,370 --> 00:41:16,130
able-bodied adults without dependent children who are

1206
00:41:16,130 --> 00:41:17,190
refusing to work.

1207
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:20,930
They should be trying to get a job,

1208
00:41:21,050 --> 00:41:23,670
to get employment, to go to school or

1209
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:26,890
to volunteer upwards of 80 hours a month.

1210
00:41:27,290 --> 00:41:31,130
That's about 20 hours a work week to

1211
00:41:31,130 --> 00:41:35,810
help get into the workforce, participate in the

1212
00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:39,810
workforce, and ultimately help themselves because they may

1213
00:41:39,810 --> 00:41:42,290
be able to get an employer-based health

1214
00:41:42,290 --> 00:41:44,910
care plan long-term or be able to

1215
00:41:44,910 --> 00:41:46,230
purchase on the open market.

1216
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:48,890
But the objective here is to sustain this

1217
00:41:48,890 --> 00:41:51,670
program for the long-term for those who

1218
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:53,970
need it and those who are eligible for

1219
00:41:53,970 --> 00:41:54,110
it.

1220
00:41:54,130 --> 00:41:55,070
She's just all like...

1221
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:57,330
Last one.

1222
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:59,930
And you have seen, and this is important,

1223
00:42:00,150 --> 00:42:03,410
even with these changes, Medicaid spending is going

1224
00:42:03,410 --> 00:42:06,150
to go up 24% over the next

1225
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:06,550
decade.

1226
00:42:07,210 --> 00:42:07,770
24%.

1227
00:42:07,770 --> 00:42:10,810
So when we're talking about how to strengthen

1228
00:42:10,810 --> 00:42:13,450
the system, this is not about gutting the

1229
00:42:13,450 --> 00:42:13,710
system.

1230
00:42:13,710 --> 00:42:15,890
This is about protecting it for those who

1231
00:42:15,890 --> 00:42:16,310
need it.

1232
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:17,350
But it's not about that.

1233
00:42:17,390 --> 00:42:19,110
It's all about the midterms.

1234
00:42:20,070 --> 00:42:21,230
Would you like to hear a few other

1235
00:42:21,230 --> 00:42:22,930
things that are in this big, beautiful bill

1236
00:42:22,930 --> 00:42:23,610
that just passed?

1237
00:42:23,710 --> 00:42:25,810
Just a quick little rundown, as we have

1238
00:42:25,810 --> 00:42:27,570
done so often on the No Agenda Show,

1239
00:42:27,650 --> 00:42:30,150
which your NPR local station will not do.

1240
00:42:32,070 --> 00:42:32,330
What?

1241
00:42:33,410 --> 00:42:34,250
I'm saying...

1242
00:42:34,450 --> 00:42:34,870
Yes.

1243
00:42:35,690 --> 00:42:36,110
Ships!

1244
00:42:36,510 --> 00:42:37,630
Big, beautiful ships!

1245
00:42:38,910 --> 00:42:39,330
Ships.

1246
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:40,590
Yeah, right off the top, baby.

1247
00:42:40,730 --> 00:42:43,130
$250 million for ships!

1248
00:42:43,130 --> 00:42:44,410
That's nothing.

1249
00:42:44,750 --> 00:42:44,930
Ships.

1250
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:46,330
Well, this is going to be tiny ships,

1251
00:42:46,450 --> 00:42:47,710
but they'll be beautiful ships.

1252
00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:50,210
They got to be pretty tiny because some

1253
00:42:50,210 --> 00:42:52,350
of those new class ships...

1254
00:42:52,350 --> 00:42:57,130
But wait, there's $450 million for additive manufacturing

1255
00:42:57,130 --> 00:43:01,310
for wire production and machining capacity for shipbuilding

1256
00:43:01,310 --> 00:43:02,370
industrial base.

1257
00:43:03,250 --> 00:43:06,830
$492 million for next generation shipbuilding techniques.

1258
00:43:07,970 --> 00:43:08,990
85 techniques.

1259
00:43:10,190 --> 00:43:11,510
I got a technique for you.

1260
00:43:11,770 --> 00:43:12,250
Wow.

1261
00:43:13,010 --> 00:43:14,070
That's a scam.

1262
00:43:14,510 --> 00:43:17,110
$500 million for the adoption of advanced manufacturing

1263
00:43:17,110 --> 00:43:18,850
techniques in the shipbuilding industry.

1264
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:19,910
There's a lot of money for it.

1265
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:21,270
So basically...

1266
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:21,850
Oh, there's another...

1267
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:23,250
Oh, this is good.

1268
00:43:23,370 --> 00:43:26,630
$4.6 billion for second Virginia class submarines

1269
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:27,890
in 2026.

1270
00:43:28,070 --> 00:43:29,230
One year is a lot for a sub.

1271
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:34,330
$5.4 billion for additional guided missile destroyer

1272
00:43:34,330 --> 00:43:34,590
ships.

1273
00:43:35,550 --> 00:43:37,430
Then we have a billion dollars for the

1274
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:39,510
border for deployment of military personnel.

1275
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:45,030
And we have $1.142.5 billion for

1276
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:46,290
the Coast Guard side.

1277
00:43:46,530 --> 00:43:47,850
Can I ask a question?

1278
00:43:48,070 --> 00:43:48,390
Yes.

1279
00:43:49,950 --> 00:43:51,610
Trump shut the border down.

1280
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:52,770
There's nobody coming over.

1281
00:43:52,930 --> 00:43:55,570
Well, we're still going to spend $46.5

1282
00:43:55,570 --> 00:43:58,830
billion for the wall, but don't worry, Mexico's

1283
00:43:58,830 --> 00:43:59,610
paying for that one.

1284
00:43:59,710 --> 00:44:01,650
So we can just put that aside.

1285
00:44:01,930 --> 00:44:04,570
So wait, nobody's coming over as we speak.

1286
00:44:04,930 --> 00:44:09,390
Yeah, I'm just telling you...

1287
00:44:09,390 --> 00:44:11,250
Because it seems to be working just fine

1288
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:13,410
the way it is with the expenditures that

1289
00:44:13,410 --> 00:44:15,770
are currently being used to stop the people

1290
00:44:15,770 --> 00:44:17,490
from coming over because they're not coming over

1291
00:44:17,490 --> 00:44:17,830
at all.

1292
00:44:17,970 --> 00:44:20,910
It sounds like a jobs program because it's

1293
00:44:20,910 --> 00:44:25,930
construction, installation, access roads, barrier system, et cetera.

1294
00:44:26,090 --> 00:44:27,010
Here's my favorite.

1295
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:29,330
Gee, what are the chances that you'd have...

1296
00:44:32,050 --> 00:44:35,350
And by the way, since my point that

1297
00:44:35,350 --> 00:44:38,250
I just made, why don't the Democrats make

1298
00:44:38,250 --> 00:44:38,830
that point?

1299
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:42,210
Because the only thing they have is you're

1300
00:44:42,210 --> 00:44:42,790
going to die.

1301
00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:46,840
I don't think that's the reason.

1302
00:44:47,340 --> 00:44:49,820
Because to make that point, they have to

1303
00:44:49,820 --> 00:44:52,180
admit that Biden could have done the same

1304
00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:52,660
thing.

1305
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,960
Yeah, well, there is your good point.

1306
00:44:57,620 --> 00:44:58,960
Guess what's in here?

1307
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:00,740
What did we hear for the past two

1308
00:45:00,740 --> 00:45:01,000
months?

1309
00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:03,560
Oh, oh no, Newark Airport.

1310
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,200
Oh no, oh no.

1311
00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:06,820
Fiber optics, yeah.

1312
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:14,780
I see $4.7 billion for telecommunications infrastructure,

1313
00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:24,100
$3 billion for radar systems, $500 million for

1314
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:26,120
runway safety technologies.

1315
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,520
Whatever that is.

1316
00:45:27,820 --> 00:45:29,960
It's a guy with an orange vest.

1317
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,620
No, a guy with a horn telling the

1318
00:45:31,620 --> 00:45:32,900
birds to get off the runway.

1319
00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:36,900
$1.9 billion for necessary actions to construct

1320
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:39,580
a new air routes traffic control center.

1321
00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:42,980
So now you see how it works.

1322
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,840
That is the sausage being made.

1323
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:47,960
Create a big fuss about something that all

1324
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,540
of our air traffic controllers say, it's been

1325
00:45:50,540 --> 00:45:51,320
that way forever.

1326
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,260
We work around it nine times a day.

1327
00:45:54,620 --> 00:45:56,040
But okay, I'm sure everybody's happy.

1328
00:45:56,140 --> 00:45:57,560
I'm not against it, obviously.

1329
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,920
But the PSYOP was mean.

1330
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:03,620
Gas and oil leases.

1331
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,900
So we got a lot of, like the

1332
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:12,440
Gulf of America, Gulf of America leases for

1333
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:12,880
oil.

1334
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,500
Coal mining.

1335
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,380
Access to coal reserves in adjacent state or

1336
00:46:19,380 --> 00:46:21,920
private land without authorization could not be mined

1337
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,520
economically.

1338
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:25,720
Federal coal reserves located in federal land subject

1339
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,580
to a mining plan previously approved.

1340
00:46:28,540 --> 00:46:31,660
Timber on public domain forest reserves will be

1341
00:46:31,660 --> 00:46:32,380
sold off.

1342
00:46:32,980 --> 00:46:36,340
There's an amount here, 250 million board feet.

1343
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,900
Renewable energy.

1344
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:39,580
This is fun.

1345
00:46:40,340 --> 00:46:44,940
100% fees for solar energy generation facility

1346
00:46:44,940 --> 00:46:47,640
and 10% for wind generation.

1347
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,540
So if you are selling your land or

1348
00:46:50,540 --> 00:46:53,460
leasing your land for solar panels, you will

1349
00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:56,300
have a fee of 100% of something.

1350
00:46:57,580 --> 00:46:59,640
We're going to up the petroleum reserve.

1351
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,500
The American Science Cloud.

1352
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:02,880
This is my favorite.

1353
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,520
Transformational artificial intelligence models.

1354
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:09,140
Yeah, baby.

1355
00:47:10,220 --> 00:47:12,620
The cloud means a system of United States

1356
00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:15,740
government academic and private sector programs and infrastructure

1357
00:47:15,740 --> 00:47:19,800
utilizing cloud computing technologies to facilitate and support

1358
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,020
scientific research.

1359
00:47:21,180 --> 00:47:23,080
Dad, I thought we were cutting off all

1360
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:23,660
research.

1361
00:47:24,580 --> 00:47:25,060
Well, no.

1362
00:47:25,060 --> 00:47:27,760
Turns out the American Science Cloud will be

1363
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,160
a thing.

1364
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:31,680
Then we do have a lot of things

1365
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,040
for.

1366
00:47:32,260 --> 00:47:34,040
That sounds like a boondoggle.

1367
00:47:34,140 --> 00:47:36,600
That's for for all the tech bros.

1368
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,580
That's what they got.

1369
00:47:38,140 --> 00:47:39,700
Everyone gets something in this.

1370
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:40,840
Not us.

1371
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,540
What about the podcasting provisions?

1372
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,720
I haven't seen it.

1373
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,100
Committee on Environment and Public Works.

1374
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,240
So recession of funding for clean, heavy duty

1375
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:51,800
vehicles.

1376
00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:52,280
Goodbye.

1377
00:47:53,140 --> 00:47:55,520
Repeal of greenhouse gas reduction fund.

1378
00:47:55,620 --> 00:47:55,800
Goodbye.

1379
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,040
Recession of funding for diesel emissions reductions.

1380
00:47:59,340 --> 00:47:59,460
Goodbye.

1381
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:02,480
Recession of funding to address air pollution.

1382
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,100
Recession of funding to address air pollution at

1383
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:06,620
schools.

1384
00:48:07,060 --> 00:48:07,600
Recession of.

1385
00:48:07,820 --> 00:48:08,360
What?

1386
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,740
Yeah, just air pollution at school.

1387
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,560
Suck it up, kids.

1388
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,760
There's air pollution everywhere.

1389
00:48:14,460 --> 00:48:15,460
You might die.

1390
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:18,440
Recession of funding for the low emissions electricity

1391
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,120
program.

1392
00:48:19,340 --> 00:48:19,600
Oops.

1393
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:22,500
Recession of funding for Section 211 of the

1394
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:22,940
Clean Air.

1395
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,080
It just goes on and on and on.

1396
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:26,860
So this is all taking away the Green

1397
00:48:26,860 --> 00:48:27,440
New Deal.

1398
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:30,780
Then we have the child tax credit, which

1399
00:48:30,780 --> 00:48:33,360
will be tied to a Social Security number.

1400
00:48:34,700 --> 00:48:36,680
This is so now for every kid you

1401
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,260
get a.

1402
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,340
But how does a tax credit not get

1403
00:48:39,340 --> 00:48:40,960
tied to a Social Security number?

1404
00:48:41,140 --> 00:48:42,840
I'm going to ask you right now.

1405
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,120
When we have a Democrat president in Congress,

1406
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:46,800
then it's just it's a free for all,

1407
00:48:46,860 --> 00:48:47,480
I guess.

1408
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:50,580
So that goes.

1409
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,000
Tax credit is a credit on your income

1410
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,460
taxes.

1411
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:54,480
Am I not mistaken?

1412
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,720
Yeah, but you know.

1413
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,320
And don't you have to have a Social

1414
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,020
Security number to even file?

1415
00:48:59,340 --> 00:49:00,240
No, that's not true.

1416
00:49:00,380 --> 00:49:03,100
As a illegal immigrant, you can get a

1417
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:05,580
you get a tax ID number, which is

1418
00:49:05,580 --> 00:49:07,060
not a Social Security.

1419
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:08,180
OK, it's a good point.

1420
00:49:08,300 --> 00:49:08,560
Good point.

1421
00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:09,400
You got it.

1422
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,640
So this is tied specifically to SSN, and

1423
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,520
it's going to be twenty two hundred dollars

1424
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,240
per child.

1425
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,200
Let me see.

1426
00:49:17,260 --> 00:49:18,860
Oh, here you go, John.

1427
00:49:18,860 --> 00:49:19,640
Good news.

1428
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,120
Extension and enhancement of increased estate and gift

1429
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,760
tax exemption amounts.

1430
00:49:24,860 --> 00:49:26,640
This is what the billionaires get.

1431
00:49:27,540 --> 00:49:29,080
So you can now leave.

1432
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:32,420
You were allowed to leave five million dollars

1433
00:49:32,420 --> 00:49:33,340
to your heirs.

1434
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,000
But you, of course, need the higher amount

1435
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,120
of 15 million.

1436
00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:38,180
So that's good.

1437
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,820
That really affects me.

1438
00:49:41,620 --> 00:49:42,880
Here, kid is a watch.

1439
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,360
Good luck with it.

1440
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,980
I got a watch.

1441
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,360
At least you're under the number.

1442
00:49:49,140 --> 00:49:52,760
No tax on tips for any taxable year.

1443
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,220
So not exceed twenty five thousand low ceiling

1444
00:49:56,220 --> 00:49:57,900
for no tax on overtime.

1445
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,420
That will be so not exceed twelve and

1446
00:50:01,420 --> 00:50:02,300
a half thousand.

1447
00:50:02,860 --> 00:50:04,440
Then we have the Trump accounts.

1448
00:50:05,140 --> 00:50:05,800
Hold on a second.

1449
00:50:06,220 --> 00:50:08,720
There's another thing I'm complaining about.

1450
00:50:08,940 --> 00:50:10,620
Yeah, they were saying that there's going to

1451
00:50:10,620 --> 00:50:13,540
be no tax on tips, no tax on

1452
00:50:13,540 --> 00:50:17,160
overtime and no tax on Social Security.

1453
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:17,540
Yeah.

1454
00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:19,240
No, that's just not true.

1455
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,900
The old oldsters on the Social Security thing.

1456
00:50:23,220 --> 00:50:24,300
What happened to that?

1457
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,300
What happened to that?

1458
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,000
I think I actually get to that down

1459
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,840
a little bit further.

1460
00:50:28,260 --> 00:50:29,560
It's not not too much further.

1461
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,080
What I have the Trump accounts that I

1462
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,980
think is the the baby, the baby bonus.

1463
00:50:37,780 --> 00:50:40,220
And I don't even see an amount here.

1464
00:50:40,580 --> 00:50:41,220
Oh, it's.

1465
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:45,140
Baby doesn't say, oh, I like this one.

1466
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,980
Spaceports and airports.

1467
00:50:49,180 --> 00:50:52,200
Spaceports will be treated like airports under exempt

1468
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,900
facility bond rules.

1469
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:56,120
I'm not sure what that means.

1470
00:50:56,740 --> 00:50:57,380
Spaceports.

1471
00:50:57,940 --> 00:51:00,520
Well, these guys are getting pretty aggressive with

1472
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,680
things that that's I think that that is

1473
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,080
actually a Bezos and and Musk benefit, I

1474
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:07,620
think.

1475
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:09,420
But I'm not sure.

1476
00:51:09,580 --> 00:51:09,760
Oh, yeah.

1477
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,500
When they put their spaceports up, we'll be.

1478
00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:13,000
Yes.

1479
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,300
So here here's one that that got in

1480
00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:18,380
there that for some reason no one's talking

1481
00:51:18,380 --> 00:51:22,660
about excise tax based on investment income of

1482
00:51:22,660 --> 00:51:24,760
private colleges and universities.

1483
00:51:25,420 --> 00:51:26,520
Hey, now.

1484
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,700
Tax impose hereby impose the tax on each

1485
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:35,120
applicable educational institution, Harvard, Columbia, et cetera, for

1486
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,500
the taxable year, a tax equal to the

1487
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:40,680
applicable percentage of the net investment come income

1488
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:41,980
of such institution.

1489
00:51:42,620 --> 00:51:44,840
One point four percent in the case of

1490
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,540
an institution with a student adjusted endowment of

1491
00:51:47,540 --> 00:51:49,680
at least half a million, not in excess

1492
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,280
of seven hundred fifty thousand four percent in

1493
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,500
the case of an institution with a student

1494
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:57,880
adjusted endowment in excess of seven fifty not

1495
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,020
to exceed two million and eight percent in

1496
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:04,000
in case of the institution with a student

1497
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,300
adjusted endowment in excess of two million.

1498
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,660
So that's the big boys.

1499
00:52:08,660 --> 00:52:10,980
That sounds like all the big boys all

1500
00:52:10,980 --> 00:52:12,760
of a sudden went from no tax to

1501
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:13,420
eight percent.

1502
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,400
I can't imagine why they're mad at Trump.

1503
00:52:17,020 --> 00:52:18,560
Well, that.

1504
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:23,520
Well, again, I think your original point, which

1505
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,040
is why hasn't anyone said anything about this

1506
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,660
because they can bitch and moan because they're

1507
00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:30,920
in they're in the fund.

1508
00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:34,300
There's I think it has to do with.

1509
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:40,320
Whining about their situation, it sounds like they're,

1510
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,700
you know, it's like NPR whining about losing

1511
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:45,780
their one percent, it draws attention to the

1512
00:52:45,780 --> 00:52:46,200
problem.

1513
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,400
Ah, that's a good point.

1514
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,120
Vetting of sponsors.

1515
00:52:51,820 --> 00:52:52,360
This is good.

1516
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,480
So if we're going to the Office of

1517
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,620
Refugee Resettlement, the so if you're going to.

1518
00:52:59,180 --> 00:52:59,880
Oh, this is interesting.

1519
00:53:00,020 --> 00:53:01,560
You're going to have kids a very long.

1520
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:02,920
I'm not going to read all of it,

1521
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,280
but they will have to.

1522
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,460
Vet the sponsors for unaccompanied alien.

1523
00:53:07,660 --> 00:53:08,140
Yes.

1524
00:53:08,180 --> 00:53:11,060
In other words, the ending that is what

1525
00:53:11,060 --> 00:53:11,480
it's doing.

1526
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,060
We're ending that nonsense.

1527
00:53:13,260 --> 00:53:14,680
They're ending the vetting.

1528
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,920
No, no, we're ending the not people weren't

1529
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,280
vetted.

1530
00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:20,420
Yeah, no, they were just giving them to

1531
00:53:20,420 --> 00:53:21,500
two pimps.

1532
00:53:21,580 --> 00:53:21,720
Yeah.

1533
00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:23,220
So we're ending that nonsense.

1534
00:53:23,460 --> 00:53:25,720
Now these people will be the coyotes.

1535
00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:29,520
Then we have asylum fee.

1536
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:30,580
Here we go.

1537
00:53:31,220 --> 00:53:33,260
In addition to any other fee authorized by

1538
00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:35,120
law, if you want to request and file

1539
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,900
for asylum, you will pay one hundred dollars.

1540
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,080
That doesn't nickel and diming them to death.

1541
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,180
And if you want to be paroled into

1542
00:53:44,180 --> 00:53:47,680
the US, that will cost you a thousand

1543
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,260
dollars.

1544
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,300
So it's setting a bar.

1545
00:53:50,540 --> 00:53:52,340
And you can get citizenship for five to

1546
00:53:52,340 --> 00:53:54,060
five million if you buy one of those

1547
00:53:54,060 --> 00:53:54,640
gold cards.

1548
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,740
I wonder if that's in there.

1549
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,600
I haven't seen it yet.

1550
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,020
And then there's extension of radioactive leukemia related

1551
00:54:03,020 --> 00:54:04,900
to atmospheric atom bomb tests.

1552
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,560
So we're going to pay people some some

1553
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,180
some money for that, as well as people

1554
00:54:11,180 --> 00:54:15,100
who were kind of screwy, were harmed from

1555
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:16,220
uranium mining.

1556
00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:18,520
And those are the things that we just

1557
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,100
have off the bat with some help from

1558
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:20,820
one of our producers.

1559
00:54:20,820 --> 00:54:22,340
I will add he categorized it.

1560
00:54:22,340 --> 00:54:23,360
I appreciate that.

1561
00:54:23,420 --> 00:54:25,460
But it seems to me that the that

1562
00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:31,940
the the leukemia from atmospheric testing would have

1563
00:54:31,940 --> 00:54:34,120
been already resolved by now.

1564
00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:37,280
Well, apparently, I know no offense, but I

1565
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,060
think you'd be dead.

1566
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,660
Well, because I was in the 50s.

1567
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,020
Yeah, well, apparently not.

1568
00:54:42,940 --> 00:54:45,220
So so anyway, so there's a lot of

1569
00:54:45,220 --> 00:54:46,000
things in here.

1570
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:46,960
And you're right.

1571
00:54:47,020 --> 00:54:48,500
None of this was discussed.

1572
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,400
It's all about you're going to die.

1573
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,880
And we have family members who believe this,

1574
00:54:53,020 --> 00:54:56,620
who believe that Trump himself is taking away

1575
00:54:56,620 --> 00:54:57,240
their Medicaid.

1576
00:54:58,140 --> 00:55:00,840
And one of these family members absolutely cannot

1577
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,080
work, cannot volunteer, is not mobile.

1578
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,140
You know, so it's like, no, you'll be

1579
00:55:05,140 --> 00:55:05,540
OK.

1580
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,080
You'll be OK.

1581
00:55:10,660 --> 00:55:12,580
So but we're going to be this is

1582
00:55:12,580 --> 00:55:13,220
going to be thrown.

1583
00:55:13,340 --> 00:55:14,800
We're going to be thrown to death with

1584
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:15,300
this stuff.

1585
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,380
The Republicans, they should bring back the granny

1586
00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:19,280
over the cliff bit.

1587
00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:20,200
I thought that was fun.

1588
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,520
Well, you know, they're not creative anymore.

1589
00:55:22,700 --> 00:55:23,200
No, they're not.

1590
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:26,680
So I think that's it.

1591
00:55:26,740 --> 00:55:28,980
I think we're done with that with that

1592
00:55:28,980 --> 00:55:29,380
topic.

1593
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,500
So it passed.

1594
00:55:31,380 --> 00:55:33,560
Now everyone's going to be just passed now.

1595
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:34,580
Yeah, yeah.

1596
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,060
So I was wondering because I know they

1597
00:55:38,060 --> 00:55:39,160
had a bunch of guys in the fence

1598
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,580
and Trump, I guess, had to promise a

1599
00:55:41,580 --> 00:55:43,740
bunch of executive orders to very specific.

1600
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:44,680
Oh, I'm sure.

1601
00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:45,380
I'm sure.

1602
00:55:45,380 --> 00:55:48,740
Congress people that he would do this and

1603
00:55:48,740 --> 00:55:50,400
that for them if they just get this

1604
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,060
out of the way.

1605
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,100
And so they got it out of the

1606
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:52,280
way.

1607
00:55:52,380 --> 00:55:52,880
OK, good.

1608
00:55:53,060 --> 00:55:53,860
It's about time now.

1609
00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:55,520
Now they can talk about something else.

1610
00:55:55,620 --> 00:55:59,460
They've been incessantly discussing this on public radio.

1611
00:55:59,460 --> 00:56:01,440
For one thing, it makes it very difficult

1612
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,120
to find clips on other interesting things like

1613
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,380
the fact and I don't have a clip

1614
00:56:06,380 --> 00:56:11,220
that Jaguar lost 95 percent of its sales

1615
00:56:11,220 --> 00:56:13,780
after it ran those stupid ads with the

1616
00:56:13,780 --> 00:56:17,300
transgender androgynous people.

1617
00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:19,260
You know, it's funny because that that meme

1618
00:56:19,260 --> 00:56:22,180
came back around and I thought they everyone

1619
00:56:22,180 --> 00:56:23,560
already saw the ad.

1620
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,400
It was like, was it did they report

1621
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:26,960
numbers?

1622
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:28,800
Is that why they reported numbers?

1623
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,220
They only sold 26 cars in Europe in

1624
00:56:31,220 --> 00:56:31,600
April.

1625
00:56:34,020 --> 00:56:35,880
It's also a crap car.

1626
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:36,840
It's a Ford.

1627
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:39,840
And the and the and the in the

1628
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,700
advertising agency saying, I don't get it.

1629
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,440
It makes no sense.

1630
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,560
It was a great ad.

1631
00:56:50,340 --> 00:56:51,300
Yeah, so.

1632
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,880
I'll let you go for a bit and

1633
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,640
I have other stuff to do.

1634
00:56:56,660 --> 00:56:57,280
You want me to go?

1635
00:56:57,340 --> 00:56:58,700
Well, let's go for a bit with my

1636
00:56:58,700 --> 00:56:59,560
thesis about.

1637
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,620
Yes, about the New Yorker and I'll summarize

1638
00:57:02,620 --> 00:57:04,080
your thesis from the newsletter.

1639
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,980
If you're not subscribed to the newsletter, you

1640
00:57:06,980 --> 00:57:09,460
are missing out on some good quality content

1641
00:57:09,460 --> 00:57:12,680
and memes and a lot of meme.

1642
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:15,880
And the thesis that you drew up on

1643
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,920
the previous no agenda episode was that this

1644
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,040
is the populace, the Democrat version of a

1645
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,880
populace candidate saying all the things that the

1646
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,460
Democrats want to hear.

1647
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:32,920
And, of course, the more the more outrageous

1648
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:33,680
the things are.

1649
00:57:33,780 --> 00:57:34,840
This is the Trump model.

1650
00:57:35,020 --> 00:57:37,400
The more outrageous those things are, the more

1651
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,020
I mean, no one even could pronounce, let

1652
00:57:40,020 --> 00:57:43,740
alone spell his name until all the outrageousness

1653
00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:46,180
and the coverage on all sides of the

1654
00:57:46,180 --> 00:57:47,580
political news spectrum.

1655
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:50,900
Mondami mondani mondani.

1656
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,980
Mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, Donnie, mom, Donnie,

1657
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:55,420
yes.

1658
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,100
So, yes, the thesis is that this is

1659
00:57:58,100 --> 00:58:02,100
Trump's playbook from 2015, 2016.

1660
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,460
Which, by the way, indirectly is Putin's playbook

1661
00:58:05,460 --> 00:58:07,800
and Hitler's playbook, so, I'm just saying.

1662
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:08,740
Well, there's a lot of playbooks involved.

1663
00:58:08,740 --> 00:58:09,680
A lot of playbooks, yeah.

1664
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,640
But I'm talking about the publicity playbook where

1665
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,160
you get a lot of free publicity for

1666
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,220
being outrageous and saying crazy things and getting

1667
00:58:16,220 --> 00:58:17,820
the other side worked up.

1668
00:58:17,940 --> 00:58:18,320
Yes.

1669
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,900
And this is the problem that we've had.

1670
00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:21,720
We had these guys getting all worked up

1671
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,800
and I wanna play the thing that triggered

1672
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,180
this week's workup, which was the last meet

1673
00:58:27,180 --> 00:58:30,920
the presses where she asked him three times,

1674
00:58:30,940 --> 00:58:34,460
and I have all three clips, to rebuke

1675
00:58:34,460 --> 00:58:39,360
the comment about worldwide intifada.

1676
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,060
And he beats around the bush.

1677
00:58:44,420 --> 00:58:47,600
And he got, Fox has played these clips.

1678
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,000
Of course.

1679
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,440
It's over.

1680
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,920
Like idiots, like idiots, like idiots.

1681
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,120
Like the idiots they are at Fox.

1682
00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:57,380
And here we go.

1683
00:58:57,460 --> 00:58:58,100
I'm gonna play these.

1684
00:58:58,260 --> 00:59:01,940
This is Mondani infatata clips with our buddy

1685
00:59:01,940 --> 00:59:05,460
Kristen Welker, man hands Welker, and she's gonna

1686
00:59:05,460 --> 00:59:07,000
try to get him to say things.

1687
00:59:07,380 --> 00:59:09,180
Oh, hold on, do I have the, yes,

1688
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:09,760
hold on a second.

1689
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:11,380
This is intifada one.

1690
00:59:11,380 --> 00:59:11,900
Yeah, I got it.

1691
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,680
You were recently asked about the term globalize

1692
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,460
the intifada, if it makes you uncomfortable.

1693
00:59:18,460 --> 00:59:21,220
In that moment, you did not condemn the

1694
00:59:21,220 --> 00:59:21,520
phrase.

1695
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,480
Now, just so folks understand, it's a phrase

1696
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,680
that many people hear as a call to

1697
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,240
violence against Jews.

1698
00:59:27,380 --> 00:59:29,140
There's been a lot of attention on this

1699
00:59:29,140 --> 00:59:29,460
issue.

1700
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,900
So I wanna give you an opportunity to

1701
00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:33,140
respond here and now.

1702
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,980
Do you condemn that phrase, globalize the intifada?

1703
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,000
That's not language that I use.

1704
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,540
The language that I use and the language

1705
00:59:40,540 --> 00:59:42,220
that I will continue to use to lead

1706
00:59:42,220 --> 00:59:44,640
this city is that which speaks clearly to

1707
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,040
my intent, which is an intent grounded in

1708
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,940
a belief in universal human rights.

1709
00:59:49,380 --> 00:59:52,060
And ultimately, that's what is the foundation of

1710
00:59:52,060 --> 00:59:53,640
so much of my politics, the belief that

1711
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,380
freedom and justice and safety are things that

1712
00:59:56,380 --> 00:59:58,000
to have meaning have to be applied to

1713
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:58,600
all people.

1714
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:00,520
And that includes Israelis and Palestinians as well.

1715
01:00:00,780 --> 01:00:02,780
No, but that's not that bad of an

1716
01:00:02,780 --> 01:00:03,160
answer.

1717
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,620
But he didn't condemn it.

1718
01:00:05,700 --> 01:00:07,380
So she's now on it and thinking, well,

1719
01:00:07,380 --> 01:00:07,780
wait a minute.

1720
01:00:08,180 --> 01:00:09,180
He didn't answer my question.

1721
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,840
So I'm gonna be a hotshot journalist and

1722
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:12,900
ask him again.

1723
01:00:13,180 --> 01:00:13,460
Yeah.

1724
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,220
But do you actually condemn it?

1725
01:00:15,220 --> 01:00:17,860
I think that's the question and the outstanding

1726
01:00:17,860 --> 01:00:20,080
issue that a number of people, both of

1727
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,720
the Jewish faith and beyond have.

1728
01:00:22,180 --> 01:00:24,740
Do you condemn that phase, globalize the intifada,

1729
01:00:24,820 --> 01:00:26,200
which a lot of people hear as a

1730
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,460
call to violence against Jews?

1731
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,640
I've heard from many Jewish New Yorkers who

1732
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,200
have shared their concerns with me, especially in

1733
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:33,820
light of the horrific attacks that we saw

1734
01:00:33,820 --> 01:00:36,980
in Washington, D.C. and in Boulder, Colorado

1735
01:00:36,980 --> 01:00:39,280
about- Did he say Colder Ballerado?

1736
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,020
That's kind of cool.

1737
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,580
He wanted to say Colder Ballerado, Ballerado.

1738
01:00:43,980 --> 01:00:47,220
In Washington, D.C. and in Boulder, Colorado

1739
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,380
about this moment of anti-Semitism in our

1740
01:00:51,380 --> 01:00:52,320
country and in our city.

1741
01:00:52,420 --> 01:00:54,380
And I've heard those fears and I've had

1742
01:00:54,380 --> 01:00:56,960
those conversations and ultimately they are part and

1743
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,160
parcel of why in my campaign I've put

1744
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,760
forward a commitment to increase funding for anti

1745
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,500
-hate crime programming by 800%.

1746
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,660
I don't believe that the role of the

1747
01:01:05,660 --> 01:01:07,340
mayor is to police speech.

1748
01:01:09,060 --> 01:01:12,440
Oh, you know, I can see, he's tricky.

1749
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:14,840
He's a, he's a- Oh, he's good.

1750
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:15,420
He's good.

1751
01:01:15,660 --> 01:01:16,760
I think he's really good.

1752
01:01:16,980 --> 01:01:17,180
Yeah.

1753
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,660
And here he goes.

1754
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,380
Okay, now, so she's the journalist who asked

1755
01:01:21,380 --> 01:01:22,640
the same question twice.

1756
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:23,820
He got no answer from her.

1757
01:01:23,820 --> 01:01:24,260
He's beating her.

1758
01:01:24,260 --> 01:01:25,400
Let's do it again, let's do it again.

1759
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,820
Let's try number three.

1760
01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:30,300
Quickly, for the people who care about the

1761
01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:33,240
language and who feel really concerned by that

1762
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,000
phrase, why not just condemn it?

1763
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,940
My concern is to start to walk down

1764
01:01:40,940 --> 01:01:44,540
the line of language and making clear what

1765
01:01:44,540 --> 01:01:47,340
language I believe is permissible or impermissible takes

1766
01:01:47,340 --> 01:01:49,680
me into a place similar to that of

1767
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,540
the president who is looking to do those

1768
01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:53,400
very kinds of things, putting people in jail

1769
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,100
for writing an op-ed, putting them in

1770
01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:55,920
jail for protesting.

1771
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,960
Ultimately, it's the language that I use.

1772
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,780
It's language I understand there are concerns about.

1773
01:02:00,340 --> 01:02:02,560
And what I will do is showcase my

1774
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,080
vision for the city through my words and

1775
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:04,540
my actions.

1776
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,880
Hold on, surely the next question was, what

1777
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,120
journalist was put in jail for writing an

1778
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:10,580
op-ed?

1779
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:12,600
Yeah, no, no.

1780
01:02:12,740 --> 01:02:13,320
Do you know?

1781
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,560
Do you know by any chance?

1782
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:15,600
No, there's none.

1783
01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:17,340
No, none have, none have.

1784
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:18,060
By the way.

1785
01:02:18,340 --> 01:02:19,440
None have been put in jail.

1786
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,220
They did lose their case.

1787
01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:25,080
CBS bailed out and gave Trump $16 million

1788
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,480
to go up to $30.

1789
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:27,820
I have that clip if you want to

1790
01:02:27,820 --> 01:02:28,200
hear it.

1791
01:02:28,340 --> 01:02:29,940
Yeah, let's play that before we finish this

1792
01:02:29,940 --> 01:02:30,180
off.

1793
01:02:30,780 --> 01:02:33,740
CBS's parent company, Paramount Global, will shell out

1794
01:02:33,740 --> 01:02:37,260
$16 million to President Trump to settle a

1795
01:02:37,260 --> 01:02:40,280
lawsuit waged over a 60 minutes interview with

1796
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,080
then Vice President Kamala Harris that aired weeks

1797
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,700
before the presidential election.

1798
01:02:45,140 --> 01:02:48,060
Trump claims it gave Harris an unfair advantage.

1799
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,640
Kamala was unable to answer a question properly.

1800
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,160
And they took the question that they asked

1801
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,280
and they inserted an answer.

1802
01:02:57,420 --> 01:02:59,660
In his lawsuit, Trump accused the network of

1803
01:02:59,660 --> 01:03:02,940
misleading voters with quote, deceitful editing of Harris's

1804
01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:05,060
answer to a question on whether the U

1805
01:03:05,060 --> 01:03:07,800
.S. has any sway over Israeli Prime Minister

1806
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,060
Benjamin Netanyahu.

1807
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:10,180
But it seems that.

1808
01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:12,680
As reflected by the raw interview posted by

1809
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,940
60 Minutes.

1810
01:03:13,940 --> 01:03:14,460
Well Bill.

1811
01:03:15,020 --> 01:03:17,560
The program Face the Nation used a longer

1812
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,200
portion at the beginning of Harris's response.

1813
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,900
While 60 Minutes used a shorter portion.

1814
01:03:23,020 --> 01:03:24,040
We are not gonna stop.

1815
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,000
That came at the end of that same

1816
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,340
response to accommodate time restraints.

1817
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,180
CBS said Trump's claims were false and the

1818
01:03:31,180 --> 01:03:32,700
interview was not doctored.

1819
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,980
Paramount Settlement does not include an apology or

1820
01:03:35,980 --> 01:03:36,600
any regret.

1821
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:39,180
And the settlement money will go toward Trump's

1822
01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:42,360
future presidential library, not the president himself.

1823
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:43,540
Sorry, not sorry.

1824
01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:45,120
You know the thing I just realized?

1825
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:46,840
I don't even remember what the question was

1826
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:47,140
about.

1827
01:03:47,620 --> 01:03:50,080
It was something about whether Israel controls U

1828
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:50,660
.S. policy?

1829
01:03:50,780 --> 01:03:51,520
Was that the question?

1830
01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:52,840
I don't remember either.

1831
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:53,440
I have to go back now.

1832
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,060
The whole thing is.

1833
01:03:54,140 --> 01:03:55,240
I have to go back and listen to

1834
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:55,480
that.

1835
01:03:55,740 --> 01:03:57,320
I haven't since we just played that.

1836
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,700
I might as well play my CBS case

1837
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:00,040
to Trump.

1838
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,720
This is the NPR version of what you

1839
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:02,340
just played.

1840
01:04:03,580 --> 01:04:06,560
Press rights groups are denouncing the parent company

1841
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,660
of CBS for agreeing to pay President Trump's

1842
01:04:09,660 --> 01:04:11,760
future library $16 million.

1843
01:04:12,860 --> 01:04:16,200
NPR's David Folkenflik reports Trump had sued CBS.

1844
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,380
Over the way, 60 Minutes edited an interview

1845
01:04:19,380 --> 01:04:21,560
with then-Vice President Kamala Harris.

1846
01:04:21,860 --> 01:04:25,500
Trump's lawyers said the segment constituted electoral interference.

1847
01:04:25,940 --> 01:04:28,000
Outside legal observers say his case had no

1848
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,520
merit, that the First Amendment covers such editorial

1849
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:31,100
choices.

1850
01:04:31,620 --> 01:04:33,360
His legal team says Trump has held the

1851
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,980
fake news media accountable for their wrongdoing and

1852
01:04:35,980 --> 01:04:36,480
deceit.

1853
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,600
Paramount needs approval from Trump's regulators to sell

1854
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,640
the company in an $8 billion deal.

1855
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,020
The lawsuit is hardly a one-and-done

1856
01:04:44,020 --> 01:04:44,700
for the president.

1857
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,260
The agreement appears modeled on a past settlement

1858
01:04:47,260 --> 01:04:49,360
from the Walt Disney Company, the corporate parent

1859
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,080
of ABC News, over anchor George Stephanopoulos' imprecise

1860
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,420
statements about legal findings against Trump.

1861
01:04:55,620 --> 01:04:57,320
Trump is still suing the Des Moines Register

1862
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,980
over a poll last year, and he recently

1863
01:04:59,980 --> 01:05:02,180
threatened the New York Times and CNN with

1864
01:05:02,180 --> 01:05:03,760
prosecution for their reporting.

1865
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:06,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1866
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,300
I'm a little, I'm torn.

1867
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,500
He'll come for the podcasters next, people.

1868
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,200
Well, the ones who are getting paid off

1869
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,960
by Coca-Cola.

1870
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:17,520
Yeah, they should.

1871
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,220
So we go back to Mamdani.

1872
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:21,860
Mamdani, Mamdani.

1873
01:05:22,060 --> 01:05:24,620
So he does these, he refuses to answer

1874
01:05:24,620 --> 01:05:26,720
that question, which I believe he will eventually

1875
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,960
say, no, I always meant that, because he's

1876
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,960
going to pull a Trump in every way

1877
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,520
he can, and I think he's going to

1878
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,180
win the election the way they've got it

1879
01:05:36,180 --> 01:05:39,860
set up with the ranked voting, which is

1880
01:05:39,860 --> 01:05:42,920
just a disaster if you start to think

1881
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:43,040
about it.

1882
01:05:43,060 --> 01:05:45,620
Can I just ask you one question, going

1883
01:05:45,620 --> 01:05:46,980
back to CBS?

1884
01:05:48,860 --> 01:05:52,100
I mean, the First Amendment clearly, I mean,

1885
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,660
I know this was a civil suit, but

1886
01:05:54,660 --> 01:05:57,440
the First Amendment clearly states that, you know,

1887
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,000
you cannot create any law against the press,

1888
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:01,980
whatever, if they want to write your, I

1889
01:06:01,980 --> 01:06:04,760
mean, there's slander, there's things that have, there

1890
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,980
are different provisions, but there was, I mean,

1891
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,040
the only reason for this is they want

1892
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,120
the Paramount merger to go through, correct?

1893
01:06:13,260 --> 01:06:15,060
I think that's one of the reasons they

1894
01:06:15,060 --> 01:06:16,820
settled, but I think they also had a

1895
01:06:16,820 --> 01:06:17,280
weak case.

1896
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,020
This wasn't about free speech.

1897
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,860
This was about election law violation.

1898
01:06:21,860 --> 01:06:23,120
Okay, all right.

1899
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,980
Yeah, the equal time equals something rule?

1900
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,800
No, not equal time, it's just the fairness.

1901
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:30,420
The fairness doctrine.

1902
01:06:31,220 --> 01:06:33,820
You can't meddle in an election in some

1903
01:06:33,820 --> 01:06:38,360
unfair way that is the way CBS, what

1904
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,800
CBS did was illegal, the way I see

1905
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,080
it, but I could be wrong, I'm not

1906
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:43,420
a lawyer.

1907
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,580
But let's get back to Mom Donnie.

1908
01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:49,940
So he's, so he makes these comments and

1909
01:06:49,940 --> 01:06:51,500
he gets everybody bent out of shape.

1910
01:06:51,500 --> 01:06:54,840
So I'm trying to find, and I'm watching

1911
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,140
Outnumbered and these three clips.

1912
01:06:57,140 --> 01:06:58,900
Oh my goodness, did you have too much

1913
01:06:58,900 --> 01:06:59,120
time?

1914
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,580
What happened to sumo wrestling?

1915
01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:03,340
It's only every other month.

1916
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:04,000
Oh, okay.

1917
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,640
And so there's a new tournament coming up

1918
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:06,000
this month.

1919
01:07:06,260 --> 01:07:09,220
Luckily, can't have you watching Outnumbered.

1920
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,960
There's good stuff on Outnumbered because it's very

1921
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,180
well, it's highly structured.

1922
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,220
And they had Marie Harf on, your buddy.

1923
01:07:16,380 --> 01:07:17,760
Oh, Marie Harf.

1924
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,040
So Marie Harf is on.

1925
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,180
She always plays the devil's advocate.

1926
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:22,840
She's the Democrat.

1927
01:07:22,980 --> 01:07:24,100
She's the Democrat of the box.

1928
01:07:24,180 --> 01:07:26,100
Yeah, she's a Democrat spokeshole.

1929
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,180
Yeah, she was, X, yes.

1930
01:07:29,180 --> 01:07:31,620
And so she comes on as the foil.

1931
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,460
They always try to bring somebody on with

1932
01:07:33,460 --> 01:07:35,660
a perspective.

1933
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:36,840
Fox does this better.

1934
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,720
CNN does it with the one guy, whatever

1935
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:41,200
his name is.

1936
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:42,380
Well, Brooks and Capehart.

1937
01:07:44,500 --> 01:07:46,720
Yeah, right, PBS doesn't do it at all,

1938
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:47,260
obviously.

1939
01:07:47,940 --> 01:07:49,580
But so they had Marie Harf on and

1940
01:07:49,580 --> 01:07:52,900
so I finally found an example of that.

1941
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:57,260
Now, I'm just switching my thought process, the

1942
01:07:57,260 --> 01:08:00,400
dimensionality, to flip it from Trump to Mom

1943
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,980
Donny and the way people were reacting to

1944
01:08:02,980 --> 01:08:05,220
Trump when he first showed up with the

1945
01:08:05,220 --> 01:08:06,620
Trump derangement syndrome.

1946
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,100
We have Mom Donny derangement syndrome.

1947
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,180
And you have the Trump supporters in the

1948
01:08:12,180 --> 01:08:15,620
early days that were defending him against all

1949
01:08:15,620 --> 01:08:17,720
this crazy stuff they were throwing at him.

1950
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,460
And that's what Marie Harf does.

1951
01:08:20,180 --> 01:08:23,279
She is on board with Mom Donny.

1952
01:08:23,660 --> 01:08:25,979
She understands it, she knows the playbook.

1953
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,819
But she doesn't understand it to the extent

1954
01:08:28,819 --> 01:08:30,399
that I do.

1955
01:08:31,140 --> 01:08:34,120
She's not seeing it as using Trump's playbook

1956
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:34,479
at all.

1957
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,800
She's actually seeing it as a true believer.

1958
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:41,859
And she's buying, this is just classic, this

1959
01:08:41,859 --> 01:08:43,140
is classic to listen to her.

1960
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:47,080
So here she is, they ask her about,

1961
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,560
they're all blasting this guy.

1962
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:49,600
They're out of control.

1963
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,380
And you'll hear some pieces of that in

1964
01:08:52,380 --> 01:08:52,540
here.

1965
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,880
Everybody on the show is, oh, this is

1966
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,420
the worst thing that could ever happen.

1967
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,520
John Yoo is on there going, oh my

1968
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:58,979
God.

1969
01:08:59,300 --> 01:09:02,120
And Emily is nuts over this guy.

1970
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,920
Oh, geez, this is the end of the

1971
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:04,380
world.

1972
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,279
This is all the same thing that was

1973
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:07,260
going on with Trump.

1974
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,520
And so we have Marie Harf, who's the

1975
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,300
voice of reason, but it's not gonna work.

1976
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:13,880
Here we go.

1977
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,800
Yeah, here's why I think this is an

1978
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,620
interesting look into his campaign.

1979
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,720
He was unknown as of six months or

1980
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:20,600
a year ago, right?

1981
01:09:20,660 --> 01:09:22,460
He is a new candidate who has tapped

1982
01:09:22,460 --> 01:09:25,460
into energy and concerns about cost of living,

1983
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,580
things that you mentioned.

1984
01:09:26,979 --> 01:09:29,680
He has repeatedly said he abhors anti-Semitism.

1985
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,479
Increasing anti-hate crime funding by 800%, that's

1986
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:34,880
real.

1987
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:36,300
That will help in New York.

1988
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:37,640
And don't take my word for it.

1989
01:09:37,779 --> 01:09:40,760
Prominent Jewish New Yorkers, Jerry Nadler, Brad Lander,

1990
01:09:40,979 --> 01:09:43,040
they have said, they've endorsed him.

1991
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,899
You're talking politicians who want their party to

1992
01:09:45,899 --> 01:09:49,060
be an office irrespective of anything that they

1993
01:09:49,060 --> 01:09:49,640
believe in.

1994
01:09:49,700 --> 01:09:50,340
That's not true.

1995
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,640
Are you questioning Jerry Nadler or Brad Lander's

1996
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:54,520
commitment to Judaism?

1997
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:56,200
100%.

1998
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,740
Wow, I wouldn't question anyone's commitment to their

1999
01:09:58,740 --> 01:09:58,840
faith.

2000
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,220
The same way that I would question Chuck

2001
01:10:00,220 --> 01:10:02,800
Schumer, who works against the interests of his

2002
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,920
own people at times for the politics.

2003
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,180
Let me finish what I'm saying here.

2004
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,880
Prominent Jewish New Yorkers have said they have

2005
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:10,480
met with him.

2006
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:13,460
They believe that he abhors anti-Semitism and

2007
01:10:13,460 --> 01:10:15,140
will help New York do better.

2008
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,160
Then why not condemn a globalized antifa?

2009
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,320
I think that he should be more sensitive

2010
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,600
to the context in which many people hear

2011
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:22,200
that language.

2012
01:10:22,340 --> 01:10:23,600
And I think he should condemn it.

2013
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,940
But I think that painting him with a

2014
01:10:25,940 --> 01:10:28,380
brush, that because he won't, because he's wordsmithy,

2015
01:10:28,420 --> 01:10:30,580
because he doesn't want to censor, that everything

2016
01:10:30,580 --> 01:10:33,860
else he's said about condemning anti-Semitism.

2017
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,180
I think we should just coin it, MDS.

2018
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,220
MDS right now, Mamdani Derangement Syndrome.

2019
01:10:39,780 --> 01:10:40,560
Yes, great.

2020
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:41,060
MDS.

2021
01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:44,760
I don't understand why everybody's not spotting this

2022
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,240
as this is an analog of Trump.

2023
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:49,600
Well, they have to get up early for

2024
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,080
this show.

2025
01:10:50,300 --> 01:10:51,620
You know, you and I, we just lounge

2026
01:10:51,620 --> 01:10:54,260
around, we get up around 8.30, you

2027
01:10:54,260 --> 01:10:54,620
know, we have our coffee.

2028
01:10:54,620 --> 01:10:56,720
I'm talking about in general, this is all

2029
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:57,740
day on Fox.

2030
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,860
I just happened to catch Harf, I thought

2031
01:10:59,860 --> 01:11:04,260
this was, because she represents a certain, she

2032
01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:06,140
represents the party pretty much.

2033
01:11:06,220 --> 01:11:08,160
I mean, here she is, now she's gonna

2034
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,540
get into it with some other people.

2035
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,500
I think this is Emily starting off and

2036
01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:15,020
then they get a little argument going.

2037
01:11:15,540 --> 01:11:17,620
Jewish leaders saying he is good for their

2038
01:11:17,620 --> 01:11:18,040
community.

2039
01:11:18,140 --> 01:11:18,660
Not everybody.

2040
01:11:19,020 --> 01:11:19,980
No, but a lot.

2041
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,400
I think that matters too.

2042
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,060
And I don't think he's an anti-Semite.

2043
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:24,840
I don't see three people being a lot,

2044
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,300
but we can get back into it another

2045
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:26,620
time.

2046
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,640
The number of Jewish New Yorkers who voted

2047
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,320
for him in the primary was not small.

2048
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,160
Maybe one in five, two in five Jewish

2049
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,020
New Yorkers, we're still getting data here.

2050
01:11:35,340 --> 01:11:36,700
That's not a small number of Jews.

2051
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:38,440
I don't think you should discount their feelings

2052
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:39,100
on this either.

2053
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:40,600
I'm not discounting their feelings.

2054
01:11:40,740 --> 01:11:41,240
They're voters.

2055
01:11:41,420 --> 01:11:44,020
They can vote in their interest or not.

2056
01:11:44,580 --> 01:11:47,080
I would say this, if they're really concerned,

2057
01:11:47,220 --> 01:11:49,160
Emily, about affordability in the city, why did

2058
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,280
they live for the last four years with

2059
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,620
no protest against all the illegal aliens that

2060
01:11:53,620 --> 01:11:56,260
came in and soaked up more than a

2061
01:11:56,260 --> 01:12:01,340
billion dollars each year, plus while Biden was

2062
01:12:01,340 --> 01:12:04,240
in office, while they had Democrats in majority

2063
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:04,600
here?

2064
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,400
What a great question.

2065
01:12:06,140 --> 01:12:06,960
I'll just be candid.

2066
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:08,180
I find this person frightening.

2067
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,220
You know, it's interesting because here in Fredericksburg,

2068
01:12:13,540 --> 01:12:15,760
the conversation is ongoing.

2069
01:12:15,900 --> 01:12:17,440
They have MDS here.

2070
01:12:17,860 --> 01:12:19,920
And like, New York is lost.

2071
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,300
This is crazy.

2072
01:12:21,660 --> 01:12:24,020
One of our biggest, most beautiful cities.

2073
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,980
Hey, you live in Texas.

2074
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,060
Beautiful city?

2075
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:27,860
Are you kidding me?

2076
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:29,140
You live in Texas.

2077
01:12:29,580 --> 01:12:30,640
Who cares?

2078
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,140
Why do you care?

2079
01:12:32,260 --> 01:12:34,240
Did you plan a vacation to Broadway?

2080
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:36,000
No.

2081
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:39,640
MDS is working.

2082
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:40,400
It's working.

2083
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,100
It's working.

2084
01:12:41,540 --> 01:12:42,520
It's working great.

2085
01:12:42,620 --> 01:12:45,440
So here is the last clip where she

2086
01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:48,720
tries to get some more information out there.

2087
01:12:48,820 --> 01:12:50,440
She's trying to defend, this is again, if

2088
01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:52,080
we reverse this and go back to the

2089
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,400
Trump time where you had the pro-Trumpers,

2090
01:12:54,740 --> 01:12:57,340
trying to convince people, yeah, he's harsh.

2091
01:12:57,700 --> 01:12:59,740
Yeah, he does cuss a lot, but he's

2092
01:12:59,740 --> 01:12:59,980
harsh.

2093
01:13:00,060 --> 01:13:02,180
His language is harsh, but, but, but, but,

2094
01:13:02,300 --> 01:13:02,520
but.

2095
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,280
And so we have this same thing right

2096
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,180
now with this guy.

2097
01:13:06,300 --> 01:13:06,900
Here we go.

2098
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,740
The people that Mondami is preaching to are

2099
01:13:10,740 --> 01:13:12,380
ultra rich in this city.

2100
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,240
Some of them have even said they may

2101
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:14,600
leave.

2102
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,240
Now, I don't know how you square that.

2103
01:13:16,340 --> 01:13:17,320
You're going to vote for the guy, and

2104
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:18,920
then you might think about taking your square

2105
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,040
of moneyness someplace else.

2106
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:22,960
I don't know how that works out.

2107
01:13:23,060 --> 01:13:24,300
My square of money?

2108
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:26,380
Moneyness.

2109
01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:28,440
Oh, my square of moneyness?

2110
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:29,820
Yeah, I don't know.

2111
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,180
She was like, look, I've never heard this.

2112
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,720
Well, it's because she just, it came off

2113
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:35,360
the top of her head.

2114
01:13:35,480 --> 01:13:37,980
She's trying to, she's trying to slam the

2115
01:13:37,980 --> 01:13:39,200
guy and she's failing.

2116
01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:40,500
Railing against him.

2117
01:13:40,620 --> 01:13:40,880
She's railing.

2118
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:41,920
That was a fail, yeah.

2119
01:13:41,940 --> 01:13:42,980
You're going to vote for the guy, and

2120
01:13:42,980 --> 01:13:44,600
then you might think about taking your square

2121
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,720
of moneyness someplace else.

2122
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:48,680
I don't know how that works out.

2123
01:13:49,180 --> 01:13:51,080
But you're talking about affordability and you bring

2124
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:51,860
it up, Emily.

2125
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,580
How can you have that conversation, but the

2126
01:13:54,580 --> 01:13:57,920
people who would benefit from more affordability didn't

2127
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:58,480
vote for you?

2128
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,920
What do they see about you that they

2129
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:01,540
don't like?

2130
01:14:02,060 --> 01:14:04,080
What about all the anti-Muslim hate that

2131
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,120
has been spewed at him?

2132
01:14:05,340 --> 01:14:06,560
We should also condemn that.

2133
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,900
The horrible things that- So, let me

2134
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:10,280
step in on that.

2135
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:11,780
Did you see the video from over the

2136
01:14:11,780 --> 01:14:12,000
weekend?

2137
01:14:12,180 --> 01:14:13,840
Those are people who had gone to support

2138
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:14,720
him at his rally.

2139
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,640
And he said something akin to what I

2140
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:18,280
said to you.

2141
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,820
No Jewish state, but Israel can stay with

2142
01:14:21,820 --> 01:14:23,860
different people in it or a wider spectrum.

2143
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,160
And they thought that that didn't go far

2144
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:26,360
enough.

2145
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:27,100
Look at the video.

2146
01:14:27,300 --> 01:14:27,980
It's fascinating.

2147
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:28,900
All right, we're going to move.

2148
01:14:29,060 --> 01:14:29,940
All right, we're going to move.

2149
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:30,580
It's fascinating.

2150
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,540
Man, you get extra bonus points for watching

2151
01:14:33,540 --> 01:14:34,600
that crap.

2152
01:14:35,620 --> 01:14:36,580
That's crap.

2153
01:14:36,820 --> 01:14:37,760
I actually like the show.

2154
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:39,600
I can't stand it.

2155
01:14:39,980 --> 01:14:41,100
You don't like anything.

2156
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:42,400
I like lots of things.

2157
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,180
You're a negative person.

2158
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,380
I'm a very positive person when it comes

2159
01:14:46,380 --> 01:14:47,340
to other things.

2160
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,420
But the point is made.

2161
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,580
I'm making that this is the point I'm

2162
01:14:52,580 --> 01:14:52,940
going to make.

2163
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:53,660
I'm sticking with it.

2164
01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:55,560
I see no evidence to the contrary that

2165
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,180
this is all not just a complete populist.

2166
01:14:58,180 --> 01:15:00,300
And the thing is, this is a worldwide

2167
01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:01,380
populist movement.

2168
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,960
And he's showing the Democrats how to do

2169
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:06,220
it.

2170
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:06,700
Yes.

2171
01:15:07,300 --> 01:15:09,360
And they should be paying attention to it

2172
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:10,900
because he's doing it the right way.

2173
01:15:11,860 --> 01:15:12,420
He is.

2174
01:15:12,540 --> 01:15:13,660
And he'll come out of it fine.

2175
01:15:13,740 --> 01:15:16,220
He probably will get the mayorship and nothing

2176
01:15:16,220 --> 01:15:17,680
really will change much.

2177
01:15:17,740 --> 01:15:19,140
It won't be worse than de Blasio.

2178
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:19,680
No.

2179
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,640
No, I think you're absolutely right.

2180
01:15:23,820 --> 01:15:25,160
And he is doing it.

2181
01:15:25,220 --> 01:15:27,300
He's doing just like Trump.

2182
01:15:27,690 --> 01:15:29,540
Where he's using word smithing.

2183
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,480
You know, he's very fine people.

2184
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:34,680
It's all his own version of it.

2185
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,000
I have to admit you've nailed it on

2186
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:37,300
this.

2187
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:38,820
No, I want to admit.

2188
01:15:38,980 --> 01:15:40,020
I'm happy to admit.

2189
01:15:40,220 --> 01:15:41,160
That's why there's two of us.

2190
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:41,740
This is good.

2191
01:15:42,580 --> 01:15:43,260
This is very good.

2192
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,900
Here's a little gambit playing out.

2193
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,920
The timing is remarkable.

2194
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:51,300
This is ABC.

2195
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,020
A new setback for Ukraine.

2196
01:15:53,140 --> 01:15:55,200
The U.S. is causing some weapons shipments.

2197
01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:56,900
My crane, Ukraine.

2198
01:15:56,900 --> 01:15:58,700
His crane, her crane, Ukraine.

2199
01:15:58,880 --> 01:15:59,960
A new setback for Ukraine.

2200
01:16:00,060 --> 01:16:02,120
The U.S. is pausing some weapons shipments

2201
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,500
to the country after a Pentagon review reportedly

2202
01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:06,920
found certain U.S. stockpiles were too low.

2203
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,120
Officials are not saying what weapons are being

2204
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,340
held back, but the Pentagon insists this is

2205
01:16:11,340 --> 01:16:13,540
not affecting the readiness of the U.S.

2206
01:16:13,620 --> 01:16:14,100
military.

2207
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,700
Ukraine has been struggling to fend off some

2208
01:16:16,700 --> 01:16:18,560
of the biggest Russian attacks of the war

2209
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,640
and peace talks have ground to a halt.

2210
01:16:20,780 --> 01:16:21,780
So that's ABC.

2211
01:16:22,540 --> 01:16:25,940
Remarkably, Franz Van Katra does have the list

2212
01:16:25,940 --> 01:16:29,760
of low stockpiles and has something different to

2213
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:30,000
say.

2214
01:16:30,180 --> 01:16:31,740
In what looks to be a severe blow

2215
01:16:31,740 --> 01:16:34,500
to Ukraine's war effort, Washington says it will

2216
01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:36,420
pause arms deliveries to Kiev.

2217
01:16:37,180 --> 01:16:39,400
NBC and the New York Times report that

2218
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,120
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth made the decision because

2219
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,740
of concerns about the U.S. military stockpile.

2220
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,540
Hegseth had ordered a review of the army's

2221
01:16:47,540 --> 01:16:50,640
munitions inventory, which has been depleted after three

2222
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,440
years of supplying weapons to Ukraine and carrying

2223
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:55,780
out military operations in the Middle East.

2224
01:16:55,780 --> 01:16:58,020
Among the weapons likely to be delayed are

2225
01:16:58,020 --> 01:17:03,300
Patriot interceptors, 155 millimeter howitzer munitions, Hellfire missiles,

2226
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,860
GMLRS missile systems, and Stinger surface-to-air

2227
01:17:06,860 --> 01:17:07,380
missiles.

2228
01:17:07,900 --> 01:17:10,360
Just this week, Ukraine's foreign minister said Kiev

2229
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,960
had been asking Washington for more deliveries.

2230
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,320
A halt in deliveries would hamper Ukraine's abilities

2231
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,020
to defend its cities from Russian drone and

2232
01:17:19,020 --> 01:17:22,120
missile attacks and also impede its own precision

2233
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,860
strikes against Russian targets.

2234
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,020
Sources say the deliveries being paused were scheduled

2235
01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:29,400
for several months from now, but there are

2236
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,820
fears in Kiev the suspension will be assigned

2237
01:17:31,820 --> 01:17:34,500
to Moscow that Ukraine's support from the West

2238
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:35,520
is compromised.

2239
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,940
So this is hilarious because this comes right

2240
01:17:38,940 --> 01:17:41,900
on the heels of the 5% NATO

2241
01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:42,640
increase.

2242
01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:44,140
Okay, three and a half percent.

2243
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:45,620
Well, I have- Wait, wait, wait.

2244
01:17:46,180 --> 01:17:48,040
I have the NTD version of the same

2245
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:48,400
report.

2246
01:17:48,740 --> 01:17:49,560
But there's a payoff.

2247
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:50,420
I have the payoff.

2248
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:52,980
Well, you know what?

2249
01:17:52,980 --> 01:17:54,740
I want to hear- Yeah, the payoff

2250
01:17:54,740 --> 01:17:55,540
should go last.

2251
01:17:55,660 --> 01:17:56,540
Okay, I want to hear it.

2252
01:17:56,540 --> 01:17:57,160
Where's your...

2253
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,880
I got your NTD right here.

2254
01:17:58,940 --> 01:17:59,320
Here we go.

2255
01:17:59,460 --> 01:18:01,100
The U.S. confirms that it is pausing

2256
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:03,800
some weapons shipments to Ukraine, but officials stopped

2257
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,060
short of confirming reports saying that air defense

2258
01:18:06,060 --> 01:18:08,080
missiles are mostly affected by the halt.

2259
01:18:08,620 --> 01:18:11,720
NTD's international correspondent, Ariane Postar, has the latest.

2260
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,580
This capability review, and that's exactly what it

2261
01:18:14,580 --> 01:18:17,060
is, is a capability review is being conducted

2262
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,580
to ensure U.S. military aid aligns with

2263
01:18:21,580 --> 01:18:23,040
our defense priorities.

2264
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:24,400
And we will not be- The Pentagon

2265
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,720
on Wednesday confirmed that the U.S. is

2266
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,340
currently pausing some weapons shipments to Ukraine.

2267
01:18:29,820 --> 01:18:33,440
A senior Ukrainian lawmaker previously called Washington's decision,

2268
01:18:33,780 --> 01:18:36,600
quote, painful for Kiev's efforts to defend against

2269
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:37,800
Russian airstrikes.

2270
01:18:38,260 --> 01:18:40,720
The attacks have intensified in recent weeks.

2271
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,080
The Pentagon was asked whether this review would

2272
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:44,960
embolden Russia.

2273
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,540
The spokesman replied that the capability review aims

2274
01:18:48,540 --> 01:18:51,300
to make sure America is strong, which benefits

2275
01:18:51,300 --> 01:18:52,280
the entire globe.

2276
01:18:52,900 --> 01:18:54,380
Our job here at the Department of Defense

2277
01:18:54,380 --> 01:18:56,940
is to pursue the President's America First agenda

2278
01:18:57,340 --> 01:18:59,020
and make sure that we achieve peace through

2279
01:18:59,020 --> 01:18:59,980
strength throughout the world.

2280
01:19:00,460 --> 01:19:03,400
The State Department on Wednesday echoing that sentiment,

2281
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,840
a spokesperson says that despite the review, the

2282
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,900
U.S. will continue supporting Ukraine.

2283
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,820
Our commitment hasn't changed.

2284
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,300
The nature of how we're able to make

2285
01:19:14,300 --> 01:19:15,980
that commitment is going to be based on

2286
01:19:15,980 --> 01:19:17,820
what is best for America first.

2287
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:21,060
Russia also commented on the latest developments.

2288
01:19:21,540 --> 01:19:24,560
A spokesperson says pausing shipments would bring a

2289
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:25,980
quicker end to the conflict.

2290
01:19:26,420 --> 01:19:28,020
Nah, well, none of that is true.

2291
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,160
By the way, I want that past star

2292
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,040
guy to get on the Radio Hall of

2293
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:32,300
Fame.

2294
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,400
This, of course, is a money gambit.

2295
01:19:39,500 --> 01:19:43,620
Well done, Merka, Merka first, yes, because on

2296
01:19:43,620 --> 01:19:45,920
the very same day this is announced, Queen

2297
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:50,380
Ursula is in Denmark telling everybody, we'll protect

2298
01:19:50,380 --> 01:19:51,820
Greenland, don't worry about it.

2299
01:19:52,180 --> 01:19:53,720
And here's what she said.

2300
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,380
For us, it's a clear signal or clear

2301
01:19:57,380 --> 01:19:59,560
message to step up our own support.

2302
01:19:59,860 --> 01:20:04,200
So ramping up our European defense capacities, not

2303
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,460
only at the level of the European Union,

2304
01:20:06,580 --> 01:20:08,160
but at a continental level.

2305
01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:12,040
And as you know, we have already provided

2306
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,520
around about 50 billion euros of support in

2307
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,140
the military part, military equipment.

2308
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,920
Denmark has shown with a significant deliveries as

2309
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,160
of the start of the war, how to

2310
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,760
do it, from a much needed artillery to

2311
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,120
F-16s, for example.

2312
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,480
I, for my part, can only recommend to

2313
01:20:33,480 --> 01:20:34,660
use now safe.

2314
01:20:35,300 --> 01:20:37,360
Here are 150 billion euros.

2315
01:20:37,700 --> 01:20:42,340
Now that's the new law that they passed,

2316
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,480
that everybody can dip into deficits to-

2317
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:47,460
Oh, the deficit, you're right.

2318
01:20:47,460 --> 01:20:49,960
Right, so this is about the money, and

2319
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:50,760
what are we gonna do?

2320
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,460
Much needed artillery to F-16s, for example.

2321
01:20:53,980 --> 01:20:57,820
I, for my part, can only recommend to

2322
01:20:57,820 --> 01:20:59,000
use now safe.

2323
01:20:59,620 --> 01:21:01,720
Here are 150 billion euros.

2324
01:21:02,460 --> 01:21:05,660
The member states can take this money and

2325
01:21:05,660 --> 01:21:08,800
either buy military equipment and give it to

2326
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,780
Ukraine, or they can- Buy it from

2327
01:21:12,780 --> 01:21:15,160
us, buy it from us, of course.

2328
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,420
Well, but you don't have to buy it.

2329
01:21:17,480 --> 01:21:19,440
You could also just squander it.

2330
01:21:19,900 --> 01:21:21,940
Or they can take this money and invest

2331
01:21:21,940 --> 01:21:25,540
it in the extremely efficient Ukrainian defense industry.

2332
01:21:25,780 --> 01:21:28,320
Did you know that the Ukrainian defense industry

2333
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:29,860
is extremely efficient?

2334
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:31,900
I didn't know it was efficient, but I

2335
01:21:31,900 --> 01:21:33,380
do know they make a lot of drones.

2336
01:21:33,540 --> 01:21:34,180
It's efficient.

2337
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,820
President Zelensky told us that this defense industry,

2338
01:21:37,820 --> 01:21:42,320
which is highly efficient, has a capacity where

2339
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,200
only 60% are being used, so there's

2340
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,300
room for more 40% of capacity to

2341
01:21:48,300 --> 01:21:51,300
finance by our member states, for example, and

2342
01:21:51,300 --> 01:21:53,300
safe is the instrument that is there.

2343
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:55,020
What?

2344
01:21:55,020 --> 01:21:56,540
They're not- What scam are we talking

2345
01:21:56,540 --> 01:21:57,300
about now?

2346
01:21:57,420 --> 01:21:59,540
They're not gonna give anything to Ukraine.

2347
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:01,440
They're gonna buy Patriots from us.

2348
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,400
Trump said, oh, I'll make sure I get

2349
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,060
you, I'll get you, to that journalist, I'll

2350
01:22:05,060 --> 01:22:06,280
make sure I get you some Patriots.

2351
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,060
Hey, Ursula, we're gonna stop sending them for

2352
01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:11,420
free, so pay up, queen.

2353
01:22:12,500 --> 01:22:13,460
And that's what's happening.

2354
01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:13,880
Yeah, I guess that's the deal.

2355
01:22:13,980 --> 01:22:14,860
Of course it is.

2356
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:15,880
It's so obvious.

2357
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,760
It's, it's almost, it's crazy.

2358
01:22:23,500 --> 01:22:25,440
Talk about throwing money away.

2359
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,440
Well, blowing it up in the sky, basically.

2360
01:22:28,980 --> 01:22:31,440
So we have a new Dutch guy on

2361
01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:31,860
the scene.

2362
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,060
He's not as good as the Rutte.

2363
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,300
Far from it, actually.

2364
01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:38,480
I can't even really do his voice, which

2365
01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:40,740
I probably just should stop doing that, unless

2366
01:22:40,740 --> 01:22:42,080
it's Rutte, Rutte.

2367
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,420
And- What do you mean, should stop

2368
01:22:45,420 --> 01:22:45,980
doing what?

2369
01:22:46,460 --> 01:22:48,740
The Dutch voice, when I'm on the international

2370
01:22:48,740 --> 01:22:51,820
stage, I'm talking about climate change.

2371
01:22:51,860 --> 01:22:53,360
We have a new climate pope.

2372
01:22:54,060 --> 01:22:57,660
His name is Wopke, Wopke Hofstra.

2373
01:22:58,100 --> 01:23:02,240
Wopke, Wopke, W-O-P-K-E, Wopke.

2374
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,500
That's his first name.

2375
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,860
Wow, what a first name that is.

2376
01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:10,160
Well, it's a Frisian name, I believe, from

2377
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:10,800
Friesland.

2378
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:16,400
Wopke Hofstra, Wopke, he is the commissioner for

2379
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:17,340
climate change.

2380
01:23:17,900 --> 01:23:21,800
And we have a solution so that we

2381
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,220
don't screw ourselves while still saving the planet.

2382
01:23:26,300 --> 01:23:28,380
And I have a big thing, I talk

2383
01:23:28,380 --> 01:23:28,780
about it.

2384
01:23:28,820 --> 01:23:30,800
It's really carbon credits, but don't worry about

2385
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:30,980
it.

2386
01:23:30,980 --> 01:23:33,840
The European commissioner for climate defends the strategy

2387
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,460
presented to reach a 90% reduction of

2388
01:23:36,460 --> 01:23:38,740
CO2 emission by 2040.

2389
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:40,120
Now, that seems doable.

2390
01:23:40,500 --> 01:23:44,020
In an interview with Euronews, Wopke Hofstra explains

2391
01:23:44,020 --> 01:23:46,700
his stance on giving carbon credit in which

2392
01:23:46,700 --> 01:23:49,760
the EU countries pay other countries to cut

2393
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:50,800
their carbon emissions.

2394
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:52,560
So they're going to tax- What?

2395
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,520
They're going to tax their citizens.

2396
01:23:54,860 --> 01:23:56,520
This sounds like cap and trade.

2397
01:23:56,660 --> 01:23:58,380
Oh, it's carbon credits.

2398
01:23:58,380 --> 01:24:01,920
It's ETS, the European trading system for carbon

2399
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:02,400
credits.

2400
01:24:02,780 --> 01:24:05,320
They're going to let their industry do whatever

2401
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,460
they want, take taxpayer money and give that

2402
01:24:08,460 --> 01:24:11,260
to African nations and our Southern neighbors.

2403
01:24:11,940 --> 01:24:14,800
However, critics question how reliable and fair the

2404
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,460
plan is, particularly as member states are farming

2405
01:24:18,460 --> 01:24:22,180
out their carbon emission responsibilities to developing countries.

2406
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,440
In this hugely complicated geopolitical- Does anybody

2407
01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:27,880
see this as a scam of scams?

2408
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:28,340
No.

2409
01:24:28,740 --> 01:24:31,600
You're still producing the same amount of carbon.

2410
01:24:32,460 --> 01:24:32,900
No, no.

2411
01:24:32,900 --> 01:24:34,320
And you're saying, hey, you're not producing any

2412
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,940
carbon, so you can take our carbon and

2413
01:24:36,940 --> 01:24:39,740
we'll give you your carbon and so we

2414
01:24:39,740 --> 01:24:42,840
can swap your no carbon for our carbon,

2415
01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:44,640
and now all of a sudden everything's good?

2416
01:24:44,860 --> 01:24:46,760
I'm going to, I have another clip about

2417
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,140
what they're doing with the carbon.

2418
01:24:49,740 --> 01:24:53,240
But yeah, it's an obvious scam, you know,

2419
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,600
and they say, well, don't farm in this

2420
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,880
land, you poor Africans, because that's a carbon

2421
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,420
sink, you see, and we'll give you money

2422
01:25:00,420 --> 01:25:01,060
for it.

2423
01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:01,200
You see.

2424
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:01,980
Yeah, you see.

2425
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:02,820
To develop it.

2426
01:25:02,940 --> 01:25:04,240
And by the way, they already bought up

2427
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,040
all the African land, so this is really

2428
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,660
just putting money in multinationals' pockets and countries

2429
01:25:09,660 --> 01:25:11,780
like China who bought up large pieces of

2430
01:25:11,780 --> 01:25:13,740
land as a carbon sink and they'll just

2431
01:25:13,740 --> 01:25:15,160
collect money for it.

2432
01:25:15,460 --> 01:25:18,280
Emission responsibilities to developing countries.

2433
01:25:18,700 --> 01:25:22,120
In this hugely complicated geopolitical world, there is

2434
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,580
a lot of value also for us in

2435
01:25:24,580 --> 01:25:26,900
building more bridges with our friends in Africa

2436
01:25:26,900 --> 01:25:27,740
and Latin America.

2437
01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:29,820
They like- Yes, a bridge, a bridge

2438
01:25:29,820 --> 01:25:32,520
to nowhere, just bridges, our friends, you're my

2439
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:32,900
friend.

2440
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,260
They have, they often lack the capital, they

2441
01:25:36,260 --> 01:25:37,480
often lack the opportunity.

2442
01:25:37,740 --> 01:25:39,540
We give you opportunity and capital.

2443
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,340
Hoekstra also justifies the measure by the need

2444
01:25:42,340 --> 01:25:45,420
to reduce carbon emissions while balancing it with

2445
01:25:45,420 --> 01:25:46,180
competitiveness.

2446
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,080
Critics say the commission is chipping away at

2447
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,000
the EU's Green Deal provisions.

2448
01:25:51,540 --> 01:25:53,500
Hoekstra says he can do both.

2449
01:25:53,500 --> 01:25:57,780
There is some sort of a discrepancy between

2450
01:25:57,780 --> 01:25:59,840
on the one hand economic growth and on

2451
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:00,940
the other hand climate action.

2452
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,540
You think there's some kind of discrepancy like

2453
01:26:03,540 --> 01:26:05,600
being able to make steel and build other

2454
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,900
things and not having to pay out the

2455
01:26:07,900 --> 01:26:09,920
nose for it so you can build your

2456
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:10,380
industry?

2457
01:26:10,780 --> 01:26:12,480
It's some kind of discrepancy here.

2458
01:26:12,780 --> 01:26:14,720
We need to keep the earth clean.

2459
01:26:15,220 --> 01:26:17,940
And our job is to make sure that

2460
01:26:17,940 --> 01:26:20,420
we continue with climate action but do so

2461
01:26:20,420 --> 01:26:22,600
in a way that works for our people,

2462
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,060
works for our companies and works for our

2463
01:26:25,060 --> 01:26:25,620
economy.

2464
01:26:25,820 --> 01:26:28,260
The 2040 target is just a step along

2465
01:26:28,260 --> 01:26:30,820
the way before reaching the carbon neutrality goal

2466
01:26:30,820 --> 01:26:31,620
in 2050.

2467
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,080
All right, so since you brought it up,

2468
01:26:33,140 --> 01:26:35,040
I'm gonna give you an example of what

2469
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:35,980
Sweden is doing.

2470
01:26:35,980 --> 01:26:37,300
Sweden is so innovative.

2471
01:26:37,820 --> 01:26:40,120
Sweden is so innovative what they're doing with

2472
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:40,960
their carbon capture.

2473
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,020
I've just tried to elucidate why I think

2474
01:26:43,020 --> 01:26:46,140
it is a great idea to have for

2475
01:26:46,140 --> 01:26:47,660
a small percentage carbon credits.

2476
01:26:48,220 --> 01:26:50,280
The same is true for negative emissions and

2477
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:51,940
filtering them back into the ETS.

2478
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,120
Just to give you that one example, I

2479
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,140
was a couple of weeks ago, I was

2480
01:26:55,140 --> 01:26:55,520
in Sweden.

2481
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,500
It's the largest CCS project in Europe.

2482
01:26:58,740 --> 01:26:59,440
What are they doing?

2483
01:27:00,500 --> 01:27:04,580
They're getting emissions or they're getting CO2, they're

2484
01:27:04,580 --> 01:27:05,600
putting it in a ship.

2485
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:07,940
They're shipping it up north and they're putting

2486
01:27:07,940 --> 01:27:08,680
it into the ground.

2487
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:09,620
How about that?

2488
01:27:10,300 --> 01:27:12,640
They put the carbon emissions into a ship

2489
01:27:13,140 --> 01:27:14,580
and they ship it up and they put

2490
01:27:14,580 --> 01:27:15,340
it into the ground.

2491
01:27:16,140 --> 01:27:17,240
Come on, man.

2492
01:27:17,860 --> 01:27:20,260
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard

2493
01:27:20,260 --> 01:27:20,500
of.

2494
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:23,760
So you could actually, is there any, okay.

2495
01:27:24,420 --> 01:27:26,100
Are there inspectors?

2496
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:26,580
Yeah.

2497
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,300
Yeah, this guy, he's gonna inspect it.

2498
01:27:30,300 --> 01:27:33,940
Are there inspectors that can verify that the

2499
01:27:33,940 --> 01:27:35,860
carbon is in the ship to begin with

2500
01:27:35,860 --> 01:27:38,860
and that it's being put into the ground?

2501
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,500
Are there verify, you know, trust and verify

2502
01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:44,420
people out there?

2503
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:45,340
Is there any of this?

2504
01:27:45,380 --> 01:27:46,780
Or this is just bull crap.

2505
01:27:46,780 --> 01:27:49,240
It's a lie for the dummies.

2506
01:27:49,420 --> 01:27:51,740
It's just a ship with an empty ship.

2507
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:53,620
Oh, it's filled with CO2, baby.

2508
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:54,860
Don't come near it.

2509
01:27:54,980 --> 01:27:55,600
It's dangerous.

2510
01:27:55,860 --> 01:27:57,880
This sounds like a scam of scams.

2511
01:27:58,280 --> 01:27:59,240
Dangerous emissions.

2512
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,120
Well, and then this is where- Don't

2513
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:01,700
come near it.

2514
01:28:01,700 --> 01:28:02,760
What happens if it sinks?

2515
01:28:04,220 --> 01:28:07,180
This is the worst analogy ever.

2516
01:28:07,700 --> 01:28:10,700
So now he's gonna tout a favorite of,

2517
01:28:11,180 --> 01:28:13,600
oh my goodness, this goes back to 2007.

2518
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:14,740
Ready for it?

2519
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,000
Cleantech, okay?

2520
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,980
Cleantech, which I remember the Kleiner Perkins.

2521
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,460
They were all, oh, we're investing in cleantech.

2522
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,340
We have a cleantech fund.

2523
01:28:25,440 --> 01:28:27,820
Everybody lost their shirt on that cleantech fund.

2524
01:28:27,900 --> 01:28:28,940
There was no money in it.

2525
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,700
Yeah, Kleiner Perkins has never been the same

2526
01:28:30,700 --> 01:28:32,520
ever since they tried doing all that crap.

2527
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,060
The cleantech fund.

2528
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,260
So he's now gonna tell us that cleantech,

2529
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,820
we have no idea what innovative things, this

2530
01:28:41,820 --> 01:28:43,080
is how they, they don't say innovative, they

2531
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:43,400
say innovative.

2532
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,780
Innovative things cleantech will bring us.

2533
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,880
I will give you an analogy that we

2534
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,360
never know what technology will bring to us

2535
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:51,960
in the future.

2536
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,300
Without blaming the past, I do think we

2537
01:28:54,300 --> 01:28:56,380
have sometimes been too one dimensional.

2538
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,480
It is exactly when you get it right

2539
01:28:59,480 --> 01:29:01,880
at this nexus of the economy and climate

2540
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,520
action that you will create an engine for

2541
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:06,780
clean economic growth.

2542
01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:08,860
And that is why it is so extremely

2543
01:29:08,860 --> 01:29:11,460
important that we double down on cleantech, that

2544
01:29:11,460 --> 01:29:13,640
we double down on all the enabling conditions

2545
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:14,580
that I was just mentioning.

2546
01:29:14,980 --> 01:29:17,140
Because what we need to do is make

2547
01:29:17,140 --> 01:29:20,920
sure that we expose European industry to the

2548
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:22,620
potential to be one of the winners in

2549
01:29:22,620 --> 01:29:22,980
the future.

2550
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,620
I don't have my phone with me, but

2551
01:29:25,620 --> 01:29:26,400
I'm sure you have.

2552
01:29:26,460 --> 01:29:28,900
And if you look at it and you

2553
01:29:28,900 --> 01:29:30,380
think about what it would look like 15

2554
01:29:30,380 --> 01:29:32,420
years from now, that's always a complicated thing

2555
01:29:32,420 --> 01:29:32,800
to do.

2556
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,740
But just think what it was like 15

2557
01:29:34,740 --> 01:29:35,260
years ago.

2558
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,960
Nokia, a great company, was about to lose

2559
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,900
to BlackBerry, a company that now no longer

2560
01:29:42,900 --> 01:29:44,480
exists, at least not in the business of

2561
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:45,540
making these type of phones.

2562
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,640
That is the type of transition we will

2563
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,200
see in many industries, right?

2564
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:52,520
Wait a minute.

2565
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,500
He's saying that look at Nokia.

2566
01:29:56,940 --> 01:29:59,240
They had the market for cell phones.

2567
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:04,440
They got outpaced by BlackBerry, which then died.

2568
01:30:05,260 --> 01:30:07,280
And that's bull crap, by the way.

2569
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,000
That's the kind of innovation he's touting?

2570
01:30:10,140 --> 01:30:12,840
Well, besides the fact that that's not what

2571
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,600
happened to Nokia, it was the smartphone that

2572
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:19,700
killed them, and iOS and Android.

2573
01:30:19,780 --> 01:30:20,960
He doesn't even mention that.

2574
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,100
He's talking about BlackBerry.

2575
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:23,940
No, he talks about BlackBerry was never a

2576
01:30:23,940 --> 01:30:26,920
competitor with Nokia, it was a paging device,

2577
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:27,800
mostly.

2578
01:30:28,180 --> 01:30:29,980
And when they finally got to the phone

2579
01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:32,320
side of things, it wasn't a thing that

2580
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:33,400
wiped out Nokia.

2581
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,080
So they don't even have their analogies correct.

2582
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:37,000
That's what I'm saying.

2583
01:30:37,380 --> 01:30:39,620
He should have said smartphone, at least.

2584
01:30:40,420 --> 01:30:42,080
Instead, he says, we can be the BlackBerry

2585
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:42,980
of climate change.

2586
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,400
Okay, bro, sounds like a plan.

2587
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:46,060
The BlackBerry.

2588
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,040
Sounds like a plan.

2589
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:48,260
Wow.

2590
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:49,880
Sounds like a plan.

2591
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,620
Yeah, that's their cleantech vision.

2592
01:30:53,140 --> 01:30:55,000
The BlackBerry of climate tech.

2593
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,460
Well, okay, it's fine with me.

2594
01:30:58,480 --> 01:31:00,640
He's not being dishonest, if you think about

2595
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:01,820
it at the deepest levels.

2596
01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:04,780
So I have three clips on climate.

2597
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,480
But first of all, since the one you

2598
01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:10,400
just played showed what a farce these things

2599
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:14,220
are, especially the ship full of CO2, there

2600
01:31:14,220 --> 01:31:14,680
we go.

2601
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:17,360
Here it's going in the ground, take a

2602
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:17,820
look, see?

2603
01:31:18,180 --> 01:31:20,980
I'm going to start carrying around an empty

2604
01:31:20,980 --> 01:31:22,760
bag and say, stay away.

2605
01:31:23,500 --> 01:31:24,700
I'm going to put this in the ground.

2606
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,300
This is my CO2 for the day.

2607
01:31:26,500 --> 01:31:28,620
I'm going to bury this in my backyard

2608
01:31:28,620 --> 01:31:29,960
because I'm helping the climate.

2609
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,200
So there's a guy on TikTok who goes

2610
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:34,820
around, he's in Marin County.

2611
01:31:35,300 --> 01:31:38,420
And in Marin County, they show these bins.

2612
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,700
There's three recycling bins.

2613
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,580
There's the solid waste, and then there's the

2614
01:31:43,580 --> 01:31:46,980
recyclable cardboard, and then there's something else.

2615
01:31:47,380 --> 01:31:48,780
And this is Marin County.

2616
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,160
This is his report, as he has a

2617
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,820
video showing the garbage guys picking this stuff

2618
01:31:53,820 --> 01:31:54,040
up.

2619
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,480
Welcome to the progressive bastion of Marin County,

2620
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,520
California, where we environmentalists go out of our

2621
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,400
way to separate our refuse for a more

2622
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:02,360
sustainable planet.

2623
01:32:02,700 --> 01:32:05,000
Residents can be fined up to $500 for

2624
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:06,740
not properly separating their trash.

2625
01:32:07,180 --> 01:32:08,920
As you can see, the separating can be

2626
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,260
futile as all this trash is remixed in

2627
01:32:11,260 --> 01:32:12,580
the truck and hauled to the landfill.

2628
01:32:13,060 --> 01:32:14,820
This is at the end of Tiburon's Restaurant

2629
01:32:14,820 --> 01:32:18,180
Row, where the restaurants diligently separate their waste

2630
01:32:18,180 --> 01:32:21,240
into recyclables, compostables, and common trash.

2631
01:32:21,940 --> 01:32:24,520
I witnessed bin after bin of meticulously sorted

2632
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:27,560
waste, several tons worth, dumped into the same

2633
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,160
truck, crushed, and hauled away.

2634
01:32:30,260 --> 01:32:32,480
Recycling is not specifically mentioned in the book,

2635
01:32:32,980 --> 01:32:36,080
but rent-seeking is, and so is virtue

2636
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:36,560
signaling.

2637
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:38,940
Make sure you audit your own local trash

2638
01:32:38,940 --> 01:32:40,220
and recycling facilities.

2639
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,020
You may be shocked at what you find.

2640
01:32:42,220 --> 01:32:45,500
Yeah, this of course has been noticed all

2641
01:32:45,500 --> 01:32:47,560
over the world with this bin scandal.

2642
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:48,600
Yeah.

2643
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,120
By the way, don't you think it's a

2644
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:50,720
good no agenda?

2645
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:53,940
Before you say that, I just wanted, before

2646
01:32:53,940 --> 01:32:55,260
I lose my train of thought on this,

2647
01:32:55,260 --> 01:32:59,520
there's a bin at Costco that has three

2648
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:00,000
holes.

2649
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,740
It says, you know, cups, garbage.

2650
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,380
It goes into the same bin.

2651
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:07,780
Three holes with the one bag.

2652
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:09,640
Three holes, one bag.

2653
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:10,860
There's your show title.

2654
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:13,440
Three holes, one bag.

2655
01:33:13,700 --> 01:33:15,840
I'm telling you, that's your show title right

2656
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:16,040
there.

2657
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:17,060
Three holes, one bag.

2658
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:22,060
Maybe a no agenda premium, dare I say,

2659
01:33:22,180 --> 01:33:25,840
exit strategy, is just an empty box that

2660
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:27,240
says, you know, this is where I store

2661
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:28,340
my carbon credits.

2662
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:30,520
Carbon.

2663
01:33:30,860 --> 01:33:32,120
Carbon credits box.

2664
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:33,540
It'd be the pet rock of a-

2665
01:33:33,540 --> 01:33:36,980
The carbon credit box, which reminds me, I

2666
01:33:36,980 --> 01:33:39,320
think in three weeks, we have the best

2667
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:40,980
of no agenda exit strategies.

2668
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,020
Tina and I listened to the first 20

2669
01:33:43,020 --> 01:33:43,380
minutes.

2670
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,160
She, of course, she hasn't heard any of

2671
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:48,540
our crazy- Great ideas.

2672
01:33:48,620 --> 01:33:49,200
Great ideas.

2673
01:33:49,260 --> 01:33:51,280
By the way, they're mostly mine, and you're

2674
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,400
always in on it, and then they fizzle

2675
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:53,740
out.

2676
01:33:55,660 --> 01:33:58,580
That must be, I'm sabotaging them.

2677
01:33:58,780 --> 01:34:02,040
I mean, we were crying at points, just

2678
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,700
crying over the excellent ideas that, she's like,

2679
01:34:05,780 --> 01:34:08,140
I could have been married to a rich

2680
01:34:08,140 --> 01:34:08,540
guy.

2681
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:09,820
What were you thinking?

2682
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:11,860
Why did you not follow up on that?

2683
01:34:12,220 --> 01:34:15,560
I mentioned as an example, the no agenda

2684
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:19,880
water that had 17 virgins around it, holding

2685
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,780
up signs called love, and that would be

2686
01:34:22,780 --> 01:34:24,960
better water, according to the crystal theory.

2687
01:34:25,260 --> 01:34:27,260
I mean, we had some real doozies, including

2688
01:34:27,260 --> 01:34:30,980
your strip club exit strategy, which is in

2689
01:34:30,980 --> 01:34:33,340
the first hour is pretty good, when you

2690
01:34:33,340 --> 01:34:34,820
do all the girls.

2691
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:36,640
The strip clubs.

2692
01:34:36,900 --> 01:34:37,160
Yeah.

2693
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,140
Well, here we have, this is the climate.

2694
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,040
This is a scandal that kind of been

2695
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,920
overshadowed by the big, beautiful bill, but I

2696
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,340
thought this was pretty funny, because if you

2697
01:34:47,340 --> 01:34:50,120
start thinking about it, it's like, oh, the

2698
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,600
research, we're losing our research for this and

2699
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,140
that, because of the government.

2700
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,600
Why is the government responsible for research anyway?

2701
01:34:57,780 --> 01:34:59,060
It should be private industry.

2702
01:34:59,340 --> 01:35:03,500
Bell Labs, which invented the silicon world, the

2703
01:35:03,500 --> 01:35:05,160
world we live in today, was not a

2704
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:06,220
government operation.

2705
01:35:06,340 --> 01:35:08,440
Well, we have the cloud, John.

2706
01:35:08,500 --> 01:35:10,320
The scientific cloud is coming.

2707
01:35:11,460 --> 01:35:13,640
So here's the climate website, gone.

2708
01:35:14,940 --> 01:35:15,980
Oh, goodness.

2709
01:35:15,980 --> 01:35:18,560
The Trump administration has shut down a website

2710
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:21,140
that's home to a series of major national

2711
01:35:21,140 --> 01:35:22,820
reports on climate change.

2712
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:26,240
NPR's Alejandra Barunda reports on what that means.

2713
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,980
Back in the 1990s, Congress asked U.S.

2714
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:31,160
scientists to produce a series of reports.

2715
01:35:31,780 --> 01:35:33,520
The National Climate Assessments were supposed to come

2716
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,300
out every four years, and they were intended

2717
01:35:35,300 --> 01:35:37,880
to round up the best, newest research on

2718
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:39,640
how climate change affects the country.

2719
01:35:40,660 --> 01:35:43,080
Over the decades, those reports homed in on

2720
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:44,120
one big point.

2721
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,440
What the National Climate Assessment showed so clearly

2722
01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:48,200
is that if you are a human being

2723
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,540
living in the United States, your life is

2724
01:35:51,540 --> 01:35:54,180
already being impacted by climate change, whether you

2725
01:35:54,180 --> 01:35:55,160
know it or not.

2726
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:56,060
That's Catherine Hayhoe.

2727
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,240
She's the chief scientist at the Nature Conservancy

2728
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,100
and a climate scientist who has worked on

2729
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:01,260
several of the assessments.

2730
01:36:01,660 --> 01:36:03,500
If we don't recognize that, it's simply because

2731
01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:04,780
we haven't connected the dots.

2732
01:36:05,220 --> 01:36:07,820
And the National Climate Assessment was one of

2733
01:36:07,820 --> 01:36:10,460
the primary tools connecting those dots.

2734
01:36:10,780 --> 01:36:12,740
Hundreds of scientists worked on the reports.

2735
01:36:12,740 --> 01:36:15,920
They were used by policymakers, city planners, business

2736
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,360
owners, and regular people to figure out things

2737
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,720
like where neighborhoods might be endangered by sea

2738
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:22,960
level rise or which places were most at

2739
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:24,600
risk during heat waves or droughts.

2740
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,360
Hayhoe says the reports also pointed out ways

2741
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:28,560
to solve the challenges.

2742
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,940
The choices that we make today will determine

2743
01:36:31,940 --> 01:36:34,560
the magnitude of the impacts we face tomorrow.

2744
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,040
Urban planning expert Ladd Keith from the University

2745
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,360
of Arizona says the loss of the reports

2746
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,680
will leave many smaller cities or rural areas

2747
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,500
in the dark about their climate risks.

2748
01:36:43,820 --> 01:36:45,420
A lot of them rely on the National

2749
01:36:45,420 --> 01:36:47,920
Climate Assessment because they don't have the resources

2750
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,460
locally to do their own climate profiles or

2751
01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:52,640
to explore the impacts of climate change in

2752
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:53,360
their own community.

2753
01:36:53,660 --> 01:36:55,700
Keith says the loss of the reports, along

2754
01:36:55,700 --> 01:36:57,480
with other federal climate data sets.

2755
01:36:57,700 --> 01:36:59,340
It's a little bit like watching the modern

2756
01:36:59,340 --> 01:37:00,540
version of a book burning.

2757
01:37:01,500 --> 01:37:03,460
I like my climate profile.

2758
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,120
Modern version of a book burning because you

2759
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:08,560
took a website down.

2760
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:09,820
Yeah, that's book burning.

2761
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:10,620
That's right.

2762
01:37:11,900 --> 01:37:12,080
Yeah.

2763
01:37:12,180 --> 01:37:13,040
Here's part two.

2764
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,860
A NASA spokesperson told NPR that PDFs of

2765
01:37:15,860 --> 01:37:18,200
the reports will eventually find a new home

2766
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:20,580
on a NASA website, but they don't know

2767
01:37:20,580 --> 01:37:20,840
when.

2768
01:37:21,480 --> 01:37:23,800
And there are even more questions about the

2769
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,240
next edition of the assessment, which was in

2770
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,080
progress and was supposed to come out in

2771
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:28,840
2027.

2772
01:37:29,660 --> 01:37:32,540
But in April, the Trump administration dismissed all

2773
01:37:32,540 --> 01:37:35,280
the scientists working on it, including Keith.

2774
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:40,840
The guy complaining, yeah, okay.

2775
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:47,520
You know, the federal, the big, beautiful bill,

2776
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:52,180
speaking of NASA, is cutting NASA's budget drastically.

2777
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:53,080
Did you know that?

2778
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:54,260
No.

2779
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:56,020
What's the rationale?

2780
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,620
Well, a lot of it is climate nonsense.

2781
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:03,140
I had, who, this is, I can't remember

2782
01:38:03,140 --> 01:38:03,820
who did this report.

2783
01:38:03,860 --> 01:38:05,800
I think it's a Colorado local station.

2784
01:38:06,180 --> 01:38:08,720
Now, beyond the spending bill, the federal government's

2785
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,300
budget proposal next year contains even more cuts,

2786
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,800
and one could slash NASA's science funding nearly

2787
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:15,360
in half.

2788
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:17,420
A Denver 7 viewer sent us this email

2789
01:38:17,420 --> 01:38:19,200
saying he feels like this story is slipping

2790
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,640
through the cracks, asking us to dig into

2791
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,000
how this could impact Colorado's aerospace industry.

2792
01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:26,540
So Denver 7's Colette Bordelon is on it

2793
01:38:26,540 --> 01:38:26,820
tonight.

2794
01:38:27,180 --> 01:38:28,900
She spent the day in Boulder hearing from

2795
01:38:28,900 --> 01:38:30,900
CU scientists who fear one of the Mars

2796
01:38:30,900 --> 01:38:32,580
missions could be on the chopping block.

2797
01:38:32,580 --> 01:38:34,860
By the way, I'm all for cutting the

2798
01:38:34,860 --> 01:38:36,060
stupid Mars mission.

2799
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:38,080
Stop that nonsense.

2800
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:38,960
Why?

2801
01:38:39,860 --> 01:38:40,340
Why?

2802
01:38:40,700 --> 01:38:42,360
Why do we have to pretend we can

2803
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,620
go there and blast through the firmament?

2804
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:45,140
No.

2805
01:38:45,620 --> 01:38:49,060
And liftoff of the Atlas V with Maybach.

2806
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:50,780
I've always loved space.

2807
01:38:50,900 --> 01:38:53,080
It's been something that's just brought me joy

2808
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:54,100
since I was a little kid.

2809
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,140
Some of us grew up fascinated.

2810
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:57,500
This is a NASA scientist.

2811
01:38:57,820 --> 01:38:58,320
Bull crap.

2812
01:38:58,380 --> 01:38:59,720
This is the money we're spending.

2813
01:38:59,960 --> 01:39:02,240
Space has always brought me joy when I

2814
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:03,200
was a little kid.

2815
01:39:03,980 --> 01:39:05,540
What else is out there?

2816
01:39:05,620 --> 01:39:07,100
A place where we can dream.

2817
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,640
Lisa Upton took that dream and became a

2818
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:10,440
solar scientist.

2819
01:39:10,940 --> 01:39:14,860
We see, you know, budget cuts from time

2820
01:39:14,860 --> 01:39:15,520
and time again.

2821
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,620
But she's worried about what's outlined in the

2822
01:39:17,620 --> 01:39:20,500
recommendations for NASA from the federal government in

2823
01:39:20,500 --> 01:39:22,820
fiscal year 2026's budget proposal.

2824
01:39:22,940 --> 01:39:25,140
We're looking at a 50% cut to

2825
01:39:25,140 --> 01:39:26,580
the NASA science budget.

2826
01:39:26,740 --> 01:39:27,720
I mean, that's- Can you stop the

2827
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:28,000
clip?

2828
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:28,420
Yeah.

2829
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:31,000
Do we know that these are cuts or

2830
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:33,840
cuts in the increase?

2831
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,700
This cut thing we've talked about on this

2832
01:39:36,700 --> 01:39:38,880
show, it's a little tedious to talk about

2833
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,480
it again, but 99% of the time

2834
01:39:41,480 --> 01:39:43,500
they talk about a cut, they're not really

2835
01:39:43,500 --> 01:39:44,360
cutting anything.

2836
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,580
They're cutting the increase.

2837
01:39:46,980 --> 01:39:49,260
What they're cutting here is a true cut.

2838
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,020
This is all money that was in the

2839
01:39:52,020 --> 01:39:53,080
Green New Deal.

2840
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:55,940
Okay, well that's probably a true cut.

2841
01:39:56,020 --> 01:39:57,020
This is all climate change money.

2842
01:39:57,020 --> 01:39:58,740
And unless I know for a fact it's

2843
01:39:58,740 --> 01:40:00,820
a true cut, I'm still thinking it's a

2844
01:40:00,820 --> 01:40:02,120
cut in the increase.

2845
01:40:02,260 --> 01:40:05,280
Well, having read through the bill, this is

2846
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,880
a cut in the- This is about

2847
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:08,760
climate change.

2848
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,200
These people are doing climate research on Mars.

2849
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:12,560
What are they talking about is space.

2850
01:40:12,780 --> 01:40:13,500
It's on Mars.

2851
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:14,820
Well, the next clip you'll hear.

2852
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:17,800
From the federal government in fiscal year 2026's

2853
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:18,580
budget proposal.

2854
01:40:18,660 --> 01:40:20,880
We're looking at a 50% cut to

2855
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:22,280
the NASA science budget.

2856
01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:24,160
I mean, that's devastating.

2857
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:25,900
What was it like for you to say

2858
01:40:25,900 --> 01:40:26,120
that?

2859
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:27,700
It makes me sad, you know?

2860
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:31,040
It makes me sad for- But it

2861
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:32,860
makes her sad mainly for herself.

2862
01:40:33,060 --> 01:40:36,260
You know, my friends, my colleagues, you know,

2863
01:40:36,420 --> 01:40:37,500
my family.

2864
01:40:37,900 --> 01:40:41,000
These impacts aren't just about today, tomorrow, next

2865
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:41,800
week, next year.

2866
01:40:42,020 --> 01:40:43,960
These impacts are long lasting.

2867
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,240
Yes, so this scientist, she looked like a

2868
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:47,680
scientist.

2869
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,340
You know, I'm not shaming her, but she

2870
01:40:51,340 --> 01:40:52,920
should consider some dental work.

2871
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,800
And so then they go to Merva.

2872
01:40:56,340 --> 01:41:00,200
This is the inside NASA research.

2873
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,100
And now they've got the pretty PR girl.

2874
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:04,520
And she's really good.

2875
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,080
And she's gonna tell us, oh, these programs

2876
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:07,780
will stop.

2877
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:08,520
That's MAVEN.

2878
01:41:08,980 --> 01:41:11,080
And MAVEN is the Mars- MAVEN, sorry.

2879
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,660
Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution Mission Panel.

2880
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:14,820
This is Shannon Curry.

2881
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:17,200
My life's work has been- No relation.

2882
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:18,200
On Mars.

2883
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,460
The principal investigator of NASA's MAVEN mission, led

2884
01:41:21,460 --> 01:41:23,240
by scientists at CU Boulder.

2885
01:41:23,480 --> 01:41:27,680
MAVEN is the best observer of atmospheric escape

2886
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,820
and evolution, not just at Mars, but anywhere

2887
01:41:29,820 --> 01:41:30,820
in the solar system.

2888
01:41:31,020 --> 01:41:33,420
Some of the cuts include eliminating funding for

2889
01:41:33,420 --> 01:41:37,600
quote, low priority climate monitoring satellites, scaling back

2890
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,340
or eliminating technology projects that are not needed

2891
01:41:40,340 --> 01:41:40,960
by NASA.

2892
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,120
Who knew we even had climate monitoring satellites?

2893
01:41:44,540 --> 01:41:45,480
What is this?

2894
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:46,860
Yeah, I knew we did.

2895
01:41:47,220 --> 01:41:49,580
Or better suited to the private sector and

2896
01:41:49,580 --> 01:41:51,940
eliminating climate-focused green aviation.

2897
01:41:52,020 --> 01:41:52,660
There you are, John.

2898
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:54,020
That's exactly what you're saying.

2899
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:55,900
Leave that to the private sector.

2900
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:57,400
Let them spend the money.

2901
01:41:57,540 --> 01:41:59,240
You're absolutely on point here.

2902
01:41:59,300 --> 01:42:01,620
Needed by NASA or better suited to the

2903
01:42:01,620 --> 01:42:05,240
private sector and eliminating climate-focused green aviation

2904
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:05,840
spending.

2905
01:42:06,060 --> 01:42:09,180
The proposed budget for fiscal year 26 would

2906
01:42:09,180 --> 01:42:12,580
end dozens of active missions within NASA and

2907
01:42:12,580 --> 01:42:14,320
missions we're starting to already build.

2908
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,820
Notice they call research missions.

2909
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:17,900
These are our missions.

2910
01:42:17,900 --> 01:42:20,140
So when we're doing show prep, it's not

2911
01:42:20,140 --> 01:42:21,740
show prep, it's show mission.

2912
01:42:21,980 --> 01:42:25,100
Year 26 would end dozens of active missions

2913
01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:27,960
within NASA and missions we're starting to already

2914
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:28,360
build.

2915
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:29,740
It would cancel Nathan, yes.

2916
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,700
And with that cancellation, she says, comes job

2917
01:42:32,700 --> 01:42:33,140
loss.

2918
01:42:33,380 --> 01:42:36,000
American leadership in space isn't just about being

2919
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:37,840
number one, it's about jobs.

2920
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,680
All of the aerospace industry provides jobs here

2921
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,860
in the state of Colorado, as well as

2922
01:42:42,860 --> 01:42:43,680
the entire nation.

2923
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:45,940
Just in the state of Colorado, there's $5

2924
01:42:45,940 --> 01:42:48,480
billion in economic output just in the aerospace

2925
01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:49,020
industry.

2926
01:42:49,340 --> 01:42:51,460
Concerns Curry can't shake.

2927
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,340
If the proposed budget goes through, NASA may

2928
01:42:54,340 --> 01:42:55,740
never be the same.

2929
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,360
With those who grew up fascinated by outer

2930
01:42:58,360 --> 01:42:58,920
space.

2931
01:42:59,140 --> 01:43:01,280
It will never recover the kind of talent

2932
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:05,140
and the kind of intellectual capabilities and capacity

2933
01:43:05,140 --> 01:43:05,900
it has now.

2934
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:09,000
Hoping that same kind of spark can survive.

2935
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,180
No, you're gonna be building big, beautiful ships

2936
01:43:14,500 --> 01:43:21,660
and submarines, shifting it away from climate monitoring

2937
01:43:21,660 --> 01:43:22,560
satellites.

2938
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,940
Yeah, I think that's probably a very good

2939
01:43:25,940 --> 01:43:26,560
thing.

2940
01:43:28,420 --> 01:43:30,560
I'm all for it, I'm all for it,

2941
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:32,060
it's good.

2942
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,700
You're known to be anti-science.

2943
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:41,780
Yeah, there you go, thank you, everyone knows

2944
01:43:41,780 --> 01:43:41,980
it.

2945
01:43:42,660 --> 01:43:44,160
I'm known to be anti-science.

2946
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:48,280
I have one science clip.

2947
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:50,360
Science.

2948
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:52,980
About tick, tick advice for the summer.

2949
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:54,920
Alpha Gal is back, baby.

2950
01:43:55,440 --> 01:43:56,380
Bad year for tick bites.

2951
01:43:56,740 --> 01:43:58,940
Data from the CDC show people are seeking

2952
01:43:58,940 --> 01:44:01,980
emergency care at the highest rate since 2019.

2953
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,560
So if you're planning a hike or a

2954
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,500
trip to the park and wanna avoid these

2955
01:44:06,500 --> 01:44:09,380
blood sucking bugs, NPR's Ping Huang has some

2956
01:44:09,380 --> 01:44:10,700
tips to help you fend them off.

2957
01:44:11,140 --> 01:44:12,760
There are about a dozen different ticks in

2958
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:14,460
the U.S. that can cause problems for

2959
01:44:14,460 --> 01:44:15,180
human health.

2960
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,120
In the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic and Upper Midwest,

2961
01:44:18,620 --> 01:44:20,240
the biggest problem is Lyme disease.

2962
01:44:20,660 --> 01:44:23,320
Thomas Park is an infectious disease microbiologist at

2963
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:24,960
Johns Hopkins University in Maryland.

2964
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:28,100
He says Lyme disease is transmitted by infected

2965
01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:28,720
deer ticks.

2966
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:30,820
You can encounter these ticks really at any

2967
01:44:30,820 --> 01:44:32,520
time of the year but they're gonna be

2968
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:34,700
the most active in warmer months and they

2969
01:44:34,700 --> 01:44:37,140
tend to live in a woody or grassy

2970
01:44:37,140 --> 01:44:37,500
area.

2971
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:40,460
In the Central and Southeastern U.S., ehrlichiosis

2972
01:44:40,460 --> 01:44:44,160
and spotted fever rickettsiosis are top concerns along

2973
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,280
with a tick-induced allergy to red meat.

2974
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:48,360
Tick bites are less common in the West

2975
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:50,400
but they also happen there and can spread

2976
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,520
Lyme disease, anaplasmosis and a few other things.

2977
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:55,580
If all of this is making you itchy,

2978
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:59,520
Allison Hinckley, an epidemiologist with CDC says there

2979
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:00,900
are precautions you can take.

2980
01:45:01,140 --> 01:45:04,360
You can wear insect repellent treated clothing.

2981
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:06,680
We call that a permethrin treated clothing.

2982
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:08,620
That's a really easy thing to do.

2983
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:10,780
Cover up as much skin as possible and

2984
01:45:10,780 --> 01:45:11,740
check yourself daily.

2985
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,320
Showering when you come in from outside really

2986
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,180
has shown to be a good way to

2987
01:45:16,180 --> 01:45:17,440
prevent tick-borne diseases.

2988
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,500
That's because the longer a tick feeds on

2989
01:45:19,500 --> 01:45:21,120
you, the higher the risk of infection.

2990
01:45:21,540 --> 01:45:23,260
So if you find a tick, take it

2991
01:45:23,260 --> 01:45:23,920
off right away.

2992
01:45:24,460 --> 01:45:26,220
The best way is to use tweezers, grab

2993
01:45:26,220 --> 01:45:27,400
it as close to the skin as you

2994
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:29,920
can and find out what type of tick

2995
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:31,500
it is and how long it's been feeding

2996
01:45:31,500 --> 01:45:31,900
on you.

2997
01:45:32,220 --> 01:45:33,580
If it's a deer tick and you're in

2998
01:45:33,580 --> 01:45:35,780
an area where Lyme disease is common, Hinckley

2999
01:45:35,780 --> 01:45:36,880
says see a doctor.

3000
01:45:37,140 --> 01:45:39,740
The only time you would get an antibiotic

3001
01:45:39,740 --> 01:45:42,900
after a tick bite and before any symptoms,

3002
01:45:43,100 --> 01:45:44,460
it would be to prevent Lyme disease.

3003
01:45:44,700 --> 01:45:46,800
And in that case, we recommend just a

3004
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:47,380
single dose.

3005
01:45:47,620 --> 01:45:50,380
Otherwise, watch for symptoms like fever, aches, and

3006
01:45:50,380 --> 01:45:50,740
rash.

3007
01:45:50,940 --> 01:45:53,060
If those show up, Hinckley says seek medical

3008
01:45:53,060 --> 01:45:53,400
care.

3009
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,260
Alpha-gal, alpha-gal comes back, the return

3010
01:45:57,260 --> 01:45:57,920
of alpha-gal.

3011
01:45:58,020 --> 01:45:59,560
You know, you kind of blew past the

3012
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:00,540
NASA stuff.

3013
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,120
I wanted to ask you your opinion of

3014
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:04,480
the musk op.

3015
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:06,840
What's the musk op?

3016
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:08,520
Well, that's what we don't really know.

3017
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,020
I mean, do you still think- No,

3018
01:46:10,020 --> 01:46:10,200
we don't.

3019
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:12,300
Do you still think President Trump and Elon

3020
01:46:12,300 --> 01:46:15,180
Musk are playing together in order to-

3021
01:46:15,180 --> 01:46:15,540
Yeah, I do.

3022
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,080
How does that work with- I have

3023
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:19,600
no idea.

3024
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:20,620
It's an op.

3025
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:22,620
I'm not read in.

3026
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,800
The thing that I see popping up the

3027
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:31,700
most about the musk op is the Epstein,

3028
01:46:31,820 --> 01:46:32,960
the Epstein files.

3029
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:37,120
Yeah, because that's what Elon said and everyone

3030
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:39,360
says, oh, you know, that's why he's right.

3031
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:39,960
He's right.

3032
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:41,440
And of course, the logic, I'm bringing the

3033
01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:43,000
logic back for people who haven't heard this

3034
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:43,340
before.

3035
01:46:43,460 --> 01:46:45,360
The logic is that if there's anything about

3036
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:48,140
Trump in the Epstein tapes or files, it

3037
01:46:48,140 --> 01:46:50,240
would have been brought out during the campaign

3038
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,120
against Harris because they had the stuff at

3039
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:52,620
the time.

3040
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:54,260
So, and it wasn't.

3041
01:46:54,540 --> 01:46:55,980
So, there's obviously nothing.

3042
01:46:56,420 --> 01:46:59,140
Yes, but the way people who have very

3043
01:46:59,140 --> 01:47:02,320
short memory spans read it is, yes, this

3044
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:06,120
is exactly why the Mossad is holding this

3045
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:06,840
over Trump.

3046
01:47:07,580 --> 01:47:07,840
Mossad.

3047
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,000
Yes, I'm telling you, I'm just telling you.

3048
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:11,000
Yeah, no, I understand.

3049
01:47:11,140 --> 01:47:12,720
It makes sense if you think about it

3050
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:14,960
from an illogical position.

3051
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:16,180
You're not being logical.

3052
01:47:16,440 --> 01:47:16,540
Yeah.

3053
01:47:18,100 --> 01:47:19,960
By the way, the only thing Elon Musk

3054
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,200
never rails against is China.

3055
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,320
I looked at, he does about $22 billion

3056
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:26,240
a year in revenue from China.

3057
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:28,240
Oh yeah, he's got a big factory in

3058
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:28,600
China.

3059
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,180
And he has all, he has investors in

3060
01:47:31,180 --> 01:47:34,700
all of his companies, I think, except SpaceX,

3061
01:47:34,940 --> 01:47:37,080
probably, in China.

3062
01:47:37,980 --> 01:47:40,300
But I think SpaceX is just pure government

3063
01:47:40,300 --> 01:47:40,960
at this point.

3064
01:47:42,700 --> 01:47:43,180
It's all NASA people.

3065
01:47:43,180 --> 01:47:44,520
Yeah, it's a replacement for NASA.

3066
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,980
It's all ex-NASA guys that lost their

3067
01:47:47,980 --> 01:47:48,540
jobs.

3068
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:49,520
Yeah, yeah.

3069
01:47:49,580 --> 01:47:51,640
Which reminds me of when people, when that

3070
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,880
woman was bitching and moaning in Colorado about

3071
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:55,680
all these, all these guys decided we're going

3072
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:56,720
to lose all this talent.

3073
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:58,660
No, they're going to go someplace else.

3074
01:47:58,720 --> 01:47:59,600
They're not lost.

3075
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,220
It's not like the guy's a world-class

3076
01:48:02,220 --> 01:48:04,420
physicist who can figure something out and he's

3077
01:48:04,420 --> 01:48:05,720
going to shoot himself in the head because

3078
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:06,780
he lost his job there.

3079
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:07,740
It doesn't seem right.

3080
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:11,340
I think, I think I have two clips

3081
01:48:11,340 --> 01:48:16,960
here that are related when it comes to

3082
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:21,900
Israel and the Middle East, Gaza, et cetera.

3083
01:48:22,180 --> 01:48:24,420
In the Middle East, both Israel and Hamas

3084
01:48:24,420 --> 01:48:26,900
have stopped short of accepting a 60-day

3085
01:48:26,900 --> 01:48:29,900
ceasefire proposal put forth by President Trump.

3086
01:48:30,380 --> 01:48:32,320
But a top Israeli official says they are,

3087
01:48:32,580 --> 01:48:34,180
quote, serious about reaching a deal.

3088
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:37,940
Still, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today doubled

3089
01:48:37,940 --> 01:48:40,600
down on his vow to, quote, eliminate Hamas.

3090
01:48:40,980 --> 01:48:43,580
That was after Trump said Israel had agreed

3091
01:48:43,580 --> 01:48:44,660
to the terms of the deal.

3092
01:48:45,140 --> 01:48:47,620
For its part, Hamas insisted that any deal

3093
01:48:47,620 --> 01:48:49,800
must bring a complete end to the war

3094
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,800
in Gaza where scores of Palestinians, most of

3095
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:55,180
them civilians, have died in recent days from

3096
01:48:55,180 --> 01:48:56,020
Israeli strikes.

3097
01:48:56,020 --> 01:48:58,980
So we had emails back and forth with

3098
01:48:58,980 --> 01:49:01,420
a couple of our producers in the region.

3099
01:49:02,140 --> 01:49:03,700
Yeah, you don't want to be mentioned.

3100
01:49:03,940 --> 01:49:05,700
I'm not going to mention our producers in

3101
01:49:05,700 --> 01:49:06,160
the region.

3102
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:10,300
And the general consensus in the region is

3103
01:49:10,300 --> 01:49:13,260
that the people in Gaza will be moved

3104
01:49:13,260 --> 01:49:18,060
out for the rebelization to finalize and the

3105
01:49:18,060 --> 01:49:19,840
rebuilding to start to Syria.

3106
01:49:20,060 --> 01:49:21,280
Well, wouldn't you know it?

3107
01:49:21,440 --> 01:49:24,160
After more than 20 years, Syria can rejoin

3108
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:25,120
the global economy.

3109
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:28,840
President Trump ended the national emergency imposed in

3110
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:32,120
2004 that placed harsh sanctions on the country.

3111
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:35,380
These measures targeted state-linked entities such as

3112
01:49:35,380 --> 01:49:38,920
Syria's central bank and other major financial institutions.

3113
01:49:39,220 --> 01:49:41,960
This is in an effort to promote and

3114
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,680
support the country's path to stability and peace.

3115
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,340
The order will remove sanctions on Syria while

3116
01:49:47,340 --> 01:49:50,720
maintaining sanctions on the former President Assad, his

3117
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:54,380
associates, human rights abusers, drug traffickers, persons linked

3118
01:49:54,380 --> 01:49:57,540
to chemical weapons activities, ISIS and their affiliates,

3119
01:49:57,940 --> 01:49:59,060
and Iranian proxies.

3120
01:49:59,480 --> 01:50:01,160
Damascus welcomed the decision.

3121
01:50:01,540 --> 01:50:03,560
The country's foreign minister said it marked a

3122
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,980
major turning point and the doors to long

3123
01:50:05,980 --> 01:50:08,600
-awaited reconstruction and development are opened.

3124
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,400
There are still some sanctions in place, including

3125
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:13,480
what is known as the Caesar Act, introduced

3126
01:50:13,480 --> 01:50:16,860
in 2019 over human rights concerns in Syria.

3127
01:50:17,300 --> 01:50:19,100
This was brought in by Congress and was

3128
01:50:19,100 --> 01:50:21,220
designed to punish those who did business with

3129
01:50:21,220 --> 01:50:22,160
the Assad regime.

3130
01:50:22,480 --> 01:50:24,320
While the US said it wants the war

3131
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:27,280
-torn country to rebuild, American officials stressed they

3132
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:29,840
would not be nation-building or dictating how

3133
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:30,720
Syria should function.

3134
01:50:31,380 --> 01:50:34,400
In addition to President Trump's decision, Israel said

3135
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:37,000
it was open to establishing diplomatic ties with

3136
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:37,380
Syria.

3137
01:50:38,060 --> 01:50:42,680
Israel is interested in expanding the Abraham Accords

3138
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,020
circle of peace and normalization.

3139
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:49,000
We have an interest in adding countries such

3140
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:53,040
as Syria and Lebanon, our neighbors, to the

3141
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:57,220
circle of peace and normalization while safeguarding Israel's

3142
01:50:57,220 --> 01:51:00,060
essential and security interests.

3143
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,740
I like the circle of peace and normalization.

3144
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:03,640
I think it's on.

3145
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:06,260
I think our people in the region are

3146
01:51:06,260 --> 01:51:06,700
right.

3147
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,700
I think they might be, and the process

3148
01:51:09,700 --> 01:51:11,300
is supposed to be a 10-year one.

3149
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:13,480
Yeah, you mean they're gonna be in Syria

3150
01:51:13,480 --> 01:51:14,240
for 10 years?

3151
01:51:14,580 --> 01:51:16,580
Yeah, for 10 years, and they're gonna take,

3152
01:51:16,580 --> 01:51:17,940
and if you look at the pictures of

3153
01:51:17,940 --> 01:51:19,220
Gaza, it's rubbilized.

3154
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:21,900
Yeah, so I think the way it would

3155
01:51:21,900 --> 01:51:24,040
work is, all right, everybody, off you go

3156
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:25,960
over the Golan Heights into Syria.

3157
01:51:26,540 --> 01:51:28,220
Papers, please, let me check.

3158
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:29,300
Let me see, are you Hamas?

3159
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:30,260
No, okay, you're good.

3160
01:51:30,340 --> 01:51:33,560
And then whatever's left is gonna be pulverized.

3161
01:51:34,940 --> 01:51:36,500
Yeah, and then pulled off.

3162
01:51:37,620 --> 01:51:41,060
And what Trump suggested, it would be done.

3163
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:45,220
It won't be his, he won't own it,

3164
01:51:45,220 --> 01:51:46,620
like he thought that was, it's kind of

3165
01:51:46,620 --> 01:51:46,960
funny.

3166
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:49,020
Jared Kushner will.

3167
01:51:49,980 --> 01:51:54,960
It'll be rebuilt as a giant Hayward kind

3168
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:55,560
of a place.

3169
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,520
Some sort of a tourist destination in a

3170
01:51:58,520 --> 01:51:59,960
suburb of the United States.

3171
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:00,460
Yeah.

3172
01:52:00,820 --> 01:52:02,620
It won't be pleasant, but.

3173
01:52:02,980 --> 01:52:05,340
But it seems like, I have not heard

3174
01:52:05,340 --> 01:52:06,760
anyone connect these dots.

3175
01:52:08,460 --> 01:52:10,580
No, well, I mean, I'm sure they connect

3176
01:52:10,580 --> 01:52:12,480
the dots in the Middle East where they

3177
01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:13,580
gossip a lot.

3178
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:14,940
I mean, if you've ever been there and

3179
01:52:14,940 --> 01:52:17,700
people, I know you have, but a lot

3180
01:52:17,700 --> 01:52:19,640
of people haven't been to any of these

3181
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:21,000
places, but you go to any of those

3182
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:24,680
countries, they gossip all the time and they

3183
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,400
seem to resolve, they figure it out.

3184
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:29,500
Yeah, yeah.

3185
01:52:31,780 --> 01:52:34,440
So we have people over there that says

3186
01:52:34,440 --> 01:52:36,860
we're not there now and we're not gossiping

3187
01:52:36,860 --> 01:52:37,360
in the Middle East.

3188
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:38,840
We don't need to, we got our people.

3189
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,000
We got our people gossiping for us, yes,

3190
01:52:41,140 --> 01:52:42,740
in the coffee houses.

3191
01:52:43,780 --> 01:52:46,340
So there was one other, and this pertains,

3192
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:50,640
I'm going back to Elon, just because it's

3193
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:51,380
all out of order.

3194
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,240
We probably all heard the president say this

3195
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:56,020
about Doge eating Elon.

3196
01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:58,300
I don't know, I think we'll have to

3197
01:52:58,300 --> 01:52:58,940
take a look.

3198
01:52:59,460 --> 01:53:01,400
We might have to put Doge on Elon,

3199
01:53:02,220 --> 01:53:02,600
you know?

3200
01:53:02,660 --> 01:53:17,290
You know, Doge is going to

3201
01:53:17,290 --> 01:53:18,050
be terminated.

3202
01:53:18,250 --> 01:53:18,870
And you know what?

3203
01:53:18,930 --> 01:53:21,090
When you look at it, who wants, not

3204
01:53:21,090 --> 01:53:22,790
everybody wants an electric car.

3205
01:53:23,290 --> 01:53:24,590
I don't want an electric car.

3206
01:53:24,590 --> 01:53:26,990
I want to have maybe gasoline, maybe electric,

3207
01:53:27,470 --> 01:53:30,250
maybe a hybrid, maybe someday a hydrogen.

3208
01:53:30,530 --> 01:53:32,810
If you have a hydrogen car, it has

3209
01:53:32,810 --> 01:53:34,590
one problem, it blows up, you know?

3210
01:53:35,550 --> 01:53:39,770
So there's the president clearly signaling hydrogen.

3211
01:53:40,210 --> 01:53:41,970
It may be someday I'll drive a hydrogen

3212
01:53:41,970 --> 01:53:43,330
car, but it has a disadvantage.

3213
01:53:43,450 --> 01:53:44,350
It might blow up.

3214
01:53:44,910 --> 01:53:48,750
In the BBB, a surprise two-year extension

3215
01:53:48,750 --> 01:53:50,890
of the clean hydrogen tax credits.

3216
01:53:51,210 --> 01:53:54,290
Yeah, the hydrogen thing is just, it's not

3217
01:53:54,290 --> 01:53:54,710
working.

3218
01:53:54,930 --> 01:53:57,330
We were supposed to have a hydrogen station

3219
01:53:57,330 --> 01:53:59,010
over here in El Cerrito.

3220
01:53:59,270 --> 01:54:00,710
Isn't that the one that caught fire?

3221
01:54:01,750 --> 01:54:01,910
No.

3222
01:54:02,510 --> 01:54:04,410
Well, they had that bus in San Francisco,

3223
01:54:04,530 --> 01:54:05,590
I think, caught fire.

3224
01:54:06,370 --> 01:54:09,610
I'm not familiar with the fire, but they

3225
01:54:09,610 --> 01:54:10,990
haven't done it.

3226
01:54:11,030 --> 01:54:14,110
They put in some E85 pumps and then

3227
01:54:14,110 --> 01:54:16,390
they changed the ownership and they're not going

3228
01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:17,970
to put hydrogen there ever.

3229
01:54:18,830 --> 01:54:21,050
The whole thing is- Well, for some

3230
01:54:21,050 --> 01:54:23,190
reason, they got an extension for the hydrogen

3231
01:54:23,190 --> 01:54:23,950
tax credits.

3232
01:54:24,110 --> 01:54:24,590
I don't know.

3233
01:54:25,890 --> 01:54:28,310
Maybe Toyota or someone is doing that.

3234
01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:30,230
There's got to be some- Toyota is

3235
01:54:30,230 --> 01:54:31,770
the most skeptical of the companies.

3236
01:54:31,990 --> 01:54:33,970
They don't like, you know, they've got their

3237
01:54:33,970 --> 01:54:35,390
hybrid and they think that's as far as

3238
01:54:35,390 --> 01:54:36,030
you should go.

3239
01:54:36,250 --> 01:54:36,530
Yeah.

3240
01:54:37,310 --> 01:54:39,830
Although Toyota did make a hydrogen car and

3241
01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:41,130
I think they still have one out.

3242
01:54:41,310 --> 01:54:41,750
Yeah.

3243
01:54:42,050 --> 01:54:42,670
I've driven.

3244
01:54:43,890 --> 01:54:45,750
They're fun to drive because they make a

3245
01:54:45,750 --> 01:54:48,130
whining sound when you punch it.

3246
01:54:48,550 --> 01:54:49,270
Oh, really?

3247
01:54:50,210 --> 01:54:50,470
Yeah.

3248
01:54:50,650 --> 01:54:51,410
Why is that?

3249
01:54:51,410 --> 01:54:53,310
What generates the whining sound?

3250
01:54:53,330 --> 01:54:55,490
It's the hydrogen going through the- It's

3251
01:54:55,490 --> 01:54:56,710
a- Through the tube.

3252
01:54:57,650 --> 01:55:00,890
No, it's through a membrane or something.

3253
01:55:01,230 --> 01:55:03,110
It's a fuel cell.

3254
01:55:03,870 --> 01:55:06,370
And when you punch the hydrogen through it,

3255
01:55:06,590 --> 01:55:08,970
it makes a high-pitched screech.

3256
01:55:12,350 --> 01:55:15,150
I got one more short clip just because

3257
01:55:15,150 --> 01:55:17,930
it's fun before we take a little break

3258
01:55:17,930 --> 01:55:18,150
here.

3259
01:55:18,430 --> 01:55:22,010
This is from the Ice Barbie, Chrissy Gnome.

3260
01:55:22,470 --> 01:55:22,770
Yeah.

3261
01:55:23,030 --> 01:55:24,970
Now she's walking around with sleeveless.

3262
01:55:25,490 --> 01:55:26,670
Look at my guns.

3263
01:55:27,390 --> 01:55:28,030
I'm the Ice Barbie.

3264
01:55:28,030 --> 01:55:33,010
Yeah, she is a, she likes to, she's

3265
01:55:33,010 --> 01:55:33,610
a prancer.

3266
01:55:33,950 --> 01:55:35,550
There's a word I'm looking for that she

3267
01:55:35,550 --> 01:55:36,590
likes to prance.

3268
01:55:36,710 --> 01:55:37,510
She's a prancer.

3269
01:55:37,810 --> 01:55:38,850
Ew, I'm thin.

3270
01:55:39,390 --> 01:55:42,070
Ice Barbie, the Prancer Gnome.

3271
01:55:42,370 --> 01:55:44,650
And she just had a remarkable little story

3272
01:55:44,650 --> 01:55:48,270
about some of the degenerates we're sending back

3273
01:55:48,270 --> 01:55:48,830
with ice.

3274
01:55:49,290 --> 01:55:51,470
And because those liberals, and I'm calling out

3275
01:55:51,470 --> 01:55:54,050
you, CNN, I'm calling you out because you

3276
01:55:54,050 --> 01:55:56,250
lie every single day about what these operations

3277
01:55:56,250 --> 01:55:56,690
are.

3278
01:55:57,130 --> 01:56:00,350
We are going after murderers and rapists and

3279
01:56:00,350 --> 01:56:03,110
traffickers and drug dealers and getting them off

3280
01:56:03,110 --> 01:56:05,110
the streets and getting them out of this

3281
01:56:05,110 --> 01:56:07,050
country because Joe Biden let the worst of

3282
01:56:07,050 --> 01:56:07,850
the worst come in here.

3283
01:56:08,090 --> 01:56:09,250
The other day, I was talking to some

3284
01:56:09,250 --> 01:56:11,090
marshals that have been partnering with ice.

3285
01:56:11,450 --> 01:56:13,210
They said that they had detained a cannibal

3286
01:56:13,210 --> 01:56:15,610
and put him on a plane to take

3287
01:56:15,610 --> 01:56:16,030
him home.

3288
01:56:16,050 --> 01:56:17,270
And while they had him in his seat,

3289
01:56:17,290 --> 01:56:18,590
he started to eat himself.

3290
01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:20,570
And they had to get him off and

3291
01:56:20,570 --> 01:56:21,550
get him medical attention.

3292
01:56:21,690 --> 01:56:24,650
These are the kind of deranged individuals that

3293
01:56:24,650 --> 01:56:26,470
are- I think you're the worst cannibal

3294
01:56:26,470 --> 01:56:26,890
ever.

3295
01:56:27,390 --> 01:56:29,350
If you start to eat yourself- Wow,

3296
01:56:29,370 --> 01:56:30,610
I never heard this clip.

3297
01:56:30,690 --> 01:56:32,570
I'm giving you a borderline for this one.

3298
01:56:34,710 --> 01:56:35,190
Borderline!

3299
01:56:35,330 --> 01:56:35,810
Borderline!

3300
01:56:37,310 --> 01:56:39,770
And he started to eat himself.

3301
01:56:41,090 --> 01:56:42,130
He was hungry.

3302
01:56:42,290 --> 01:56:44,630
He failed the cannibal test.

3303
01:56:44,750 --> 01:56:46,730
That's not how it's supposed to work, bro.

3304
01:56:46,730 --> 01:56:48,310
That's not what you do.

3305
01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:50,270
Started to eat himself.

3306
01:56:50,470 --> 01:56:50,970
My goodness.

3307
01:56:51,110 --> 01:56:52,130
Hey, with that, I want to thank you

3308
01:56:52,130 --> 01:56:52,670
for your courage.

3309
01:56:52,770 --> 01:56:53,810
Say in the morning to you, the man

3310
01:56:53,810 --> 01:56:55,430
who put the C and bend the curve.

3311
01:56:55,870 --> 01:56:57,070
Say hello to my friend on the other

3312
01:56:57,070 --> 01:56:59,710
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.

3313
01:57:06,820 --> 01:57:07,140
DeVore!

3314
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:11,300
Yeah, hello, good morning to you, Mr. Adam

3315
01:57:11,300 --> 01:57:11,660
Curry.

3316
01:57:11,980 --> 01:57:13,360
In the morning, all ships, seaboots on the

3317
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:14,440
ground, feet in the air, subs in the

3318
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:15,380
water, day and nights out there.

3319
01:57:15,420 --> 01:57:16,840
In the morning to the trolls in the

3320
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:17,280
troll room.

3321
01:57:17,460 --> 01:57:18,200
Let me cut to you.

3322
01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:23,400
1789.

3323
01:57:24,620 --> 01:57:24,940
1789, low.

3324
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:26,660
It is 4th of July weekend.

3325
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:29,420
In case you hadn't noticed, we're working because

3326
01:57:29,420 --> 01:57:31,720
we pretty much always work on the holidays.

3327
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:32,860
It's the best time.

3328
01:57:33,300 --> 01:57:34,600
That's when everyone else is off.

3329
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:35,340
They're leaving.

3330
01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:38,680
That's why CNN is like, you know, can

3331
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:39,600
you just do that?

3332
01:57:39,980 --> 01:57:42,160
Jeffrey's- They had nothing but substitute hosts

3333
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:43,140
on all the shows.

3334
01:57:43,220 --> 01:57:44,200
Because everybody's off.

3335
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:45,360
They're all leaving town.

3336
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:49,560
Like, I got the 249th birthday of America

3337
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:50,060
to celebrate.

3338
01:57:50,540 --> 01:57:53,560
If you're somebody, Jesse Waters is on vacation,

3339
01:57:53,660 --> 01:57:54,180
for example.

3340
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:55,280
No, Jesse.

3341
01:57:55,460 --> 01:57:56,700
If you, oh, what a shame.

3342
01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:59,480
And so it's like, if you have the

3343
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:02,820
whole year, and you're, why don't you take

3344
01:58:02,820 --> 01:58:05,720
a vacation in some off-season time where

3345
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:08,680
there's nobody out, where the roads aren't crowded,

3346
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:11,800
and you can get rooms cheaper, and all

3347
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:12,940
the rest of it, and have a vacation.

3348
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:14,440
Why do you have to, why does it

3349
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:17,660
have to be a groupthink vacation where everybody's

3350
01:58:17,660 --> 01:58:18,260
on vacation?

3351
01:58:18,620 --> 01:58:20,800
I know, be like the Dvoraks and celebrate

3352
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:22,240
your birthdays two weeks later.

3353
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:24,320
In fact, are you celebrating the 4th of

3354
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,240
July on the 8th this year, or when

3355
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:26,920
are you doing it?

3356
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:29,400
Well, tonight's the fireworks, so.

3357
01:58:29,940 --> 01:58:33,500
Oh, you mean in the mist, in the

3358
01:58:33,500 --> 01:58:33,720
fog?

3359
01:58:33,940 --> 01:58:37,600
No, no, the fire, we have, well, it

3360
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:39,200
did fog in early a little bit, but

3361
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,740
usually the day before the 4th, which is

3362
01:58:41,740 --> 01:58:46,400
the 3rd, Richmond over here has fireworks closer

3363
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:50,200
to my house, and they're very visible, and

3364
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:51,400
it's a really good display.

3365
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:53,080
It's the day before, the next day, it's

3366
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:53,720
fogged in.

3367
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:55,960
Almost the 4th of July is just always

3368
01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:56,560
fogged in.

3369
01:58:57,700 --> 01:59:00,020
And it's just beyond me why people just

3370
01:59:00,020 --> 01:59:04,120
don't have the 4th of July when you

3371
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:05,700
can see the fireworks instead of in the

3372
01:59:05,700 --> 01:59:06,020
fog.

3373
01:59:06,340 --> 01:59:07,620
I don't understand it.

3374
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:12,120
Well, the 4th, it's the day, man.

3375
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:14,200
I mean, you got to blame the founders.

3376
01:59:14,980 --> 01:59:16,460
You got to blame those guys for doing

3377
01:59:16,460 --> 01:59:16,560
it.

3378
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:18,200
Declaration of Independence, you know.

3379
01:59:18,300 --> 01:59:19,800
Yeah, but they never said that you can

3380
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:21,100
only celebrate it on that day.

3381
01:59:21,260 --> 01:59:24,580
I know, you celebrate Christmas in January in

3382
01:59:24,580 --> 01:59:25,380
the- Sometimes.

3383
01:59:25,860 --> 01:59:29,720
Yeah, I've only seen you celebrate Thanksgiving on

3384
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:31,160
this Thanksgiving day once.

3385
01:59:32,020 --> 01:59:32,800
I mean, it's okay.

3386
01:59:33,020 --> 01:59:35,600
When my mom was alive, we always did.

3387
01:59:35,700 --> 01:59:37,360
Yeah, because your mom kept you in check.

3388
01:59:37,460 --> 01:59:38,940
That's when it all went wrong, when she

3389
01:59:38,940 --> 01:59:39,840
passed, it was over.

3390
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,160
I love, I wish I had met mom

3391
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:45,620
Dvorak, I bet she was awesome.

3392
01:59:46,820 --> 01:59:47,920
I bet she was funny.

3393
01:59:48,100 --> 01:59:50,360
Did you ever meet my mom, Valerie?

3394
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:52,880
No, I never met your mom, I never

3395
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:54,140
met your dad, and I never met your

3396
01:59:54,140 --> 01:59:54,760
first wife.

3397
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:56,760
Missing out on nothing.

3398
01:59:57,140 --> 01:59:58,760
I did talk to your first wife, but

3399
01:59:58,760 --> 01:59:59,280
never met her.

3400
01:59:59,420 --> 01:59:59,860
Oh, really?

3401
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:00,920
I didn't know that.

3402
02:00:00,940 --> 02:00:03,160
Yeah, when we had conversations, and when you

3403
02:00:03,160 --> 02:00:05,060
were in England, and she'd get on the

3404
02:00:05,060 --> 02:00:05,680
phone once in a while.

3405
02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:06,920
Oh, right, right, right, right.

3406
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:09,040
Well, that wasn't really, she was yelling in

3407
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:10,880
the background, clean up your crap.

3408
02:00:16,260 --> 02:00:19,140
Trolls, a little low, but there it is.

3409
02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:21,900
Still happy to have so many checking in

3410
02:00:21,900 --> 02:00:23,460
and listening, we appreciate that.

3411
02:00:24,020 --> 02:00:25,340
Sure you wanted to hear about the big,

3412
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:26,820
beautiful bill, well, you got exactly what.

3413
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:29,480
Look, the Cheshire cat, he couldn't be smiling

3414
02:00:29,480 --> 02:00:31,020
more Cheshire-y these days.

3415
02:00:31,740 --> 02:00:33,280
Mike Johnson, oh my goodness.

3416
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:36,260
He is just, he, he, he.

3417
02:00:36,780 --> 02:00:38,660
I did it, buff, I got it through.

3418
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:41,740
Yeah, well, he did it.

3419
02:00:41,900 --> 02:00:43,300
He did it, yeah, he did it.

3420
02:00:44,980 --> 02:00:47,400
They're listening at trollroom.io, where they can

3421
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:49,680
jump into the actual troll room and troll

3422
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:51,260
along as much as they want to.

3423
02:00:53,260 --> 02:00:54,920
Of course, they can also listen on the

3424
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:55,540
Modern Podcast.

3425
02:00:55,780 --> 02:00:58,560
That's, by the way, Fountain, well-known for

3426
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:01,000
their deep integration of the Boostergram.

3427
02:01:01,540 --> 02:01:06,120
They have now added into their system, if

3428
02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:09,000
you want to donate to the show, I

3429
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:10,560
think, I think it's set up, I don't

3430
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:12,320
know, because we have Stripe, right?

3431
02:01:12,420 --> 02:01:14,080
So I'm going to have that, put that

3432
02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:16,980
in there for us, that you can just

3433
02:01:16,980 --> 02:01:20,160
hit the donate button right there in the

3434
02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:22,780
podcast app, and then with your Apple Pay

3435
02:01:22,780 --> 02:01:24,720
or your Google Pay or whatever else you

3436
02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:27,020
have, you can send a donation, any amount.

3437
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:29,140
They're moving it closer.

3438
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:30,300
So you don't even have to go to

3439
02:01:30,300 --> 02:01:31,620
noagendadonations.com.

3440
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:33,500
What are you humming, hemming and hawing about?

3441
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:36,240
Well, yeah, when I see the money.

3442
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:37,620
I see.

3443
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:41,880
They, believe me, they're going to make that

3444
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:43,680
happen into our own Stripe account.

3445
02:01:44,180 --> 02:01:44,840
It's going to happen.

3446
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:48,400
Okay, well, sorry, I'm doing, sorry, I'm being

3447
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:48,960
innovative.

3448
02:01:50,180 --> 02:01:52,020
No, it's not, you're right.

3449
02:01:54,260 --> 02:01:56,240
You're owning, you own Fountain?

3450
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,140
No, I don't own Fountain, I own nothing

3451
02:01:59,140 --> 02:01:59,680
of Fountain.

3452
02:02:00,500 --> 02:02:00,760
Oh.

3453
02:02:01,020 --> 02:02:01,580
What do you mean?

3454
02:02:01,740 --> 02:02:02,700
Why would you say that?

3455
02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:05,200
Because you said you were being innovative and

3456
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:06,500
I thought it was Fountain doing it.

3457
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:09,080
Well, it's the Podcasting 2.0 guys.

3458
02:02:09,340 --> 02:02:11,200
You know, it's an open source group.

3459
02:02:11,540 --> 02:02:11,880
Open source group.

3460
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:12,180
Well, we know that.

3461
02:02:12,220 --> 02:02:15,080
We already know that that's the best product

3462
02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:16,940
in the best of breed.

3463
02:02:17,220 --> 02:02:18,880
Used to call it best of breed.

3464
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:20,440
They don't call it, use that term anymore.

3465
02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:21,980
Best of breed.

3466
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:22,280
Best of breed.

3467
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:23,980
Yeah, no, there's reasons.

3468
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:25,760
I don't think people care about best of

3469
02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:26,400
breed anymore.

3470
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:27,660
They just want likes.

3471
02:02:29,940 --> 02:02:31,940
Of course, you can support us in many

3472
02:02:31,940 --> 02:02:33,980
different ways, time, talent, or treasure.

3473
02:02:33,980 --> 02:02:35,480
It's the value for value model.

3474
02:02:36,380 --> 02:02:38,800
And it's been working for us.

3475
02:02:38,860 --> 02:02:39,500
We're still here.

3476
02:02:39,660 --> 02:02:42,100
We're still, you know, getting by in the

3477
02:02:42,100 --> 02:02:43,180
life of a podcaster.

3478
02:02:43,420 --> 02:02:44,400
We like it though.

3479
02:02:44,580 --> 02:02:45,720
We like the abuse.

3480
02:02:45,860 --> 02:02:48,060
We like the roller coaster ride that value

3481
02:02:48,060 --> 02:02:48,840
for value is.

3482
02:02:49,540 --> 02:02:52,580
And the different ways that people support us

3483
02:02:52,580 --> 02:02:54,920
are with Boots on the Ground, people who

3484
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:59,120
are organizing No Agenda meetups, websites, hosting, all

3485
02:02:59,120 --> 02:03:00,760
kinds of things that people have done over

3486
02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:01,120
the years.

3487
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:03,580
And we, I think we're very lucky that

3488
02:03:03,580 --> 02:03:06,780
we got an actual artist whose art showed

3489
02:03:06,780 --> 02:03:10,440
up on the noagendaartgenerator.com website for the

3490
02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:12,460
last show, Capitalist Agenda.

3491
02:03:13,220 --> 02:03:15,520
And now we don't know how much of

3492
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:16,840
this was him, how much of it was

3493
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:19,840
AI, but it was 100% Capitalist Agenda.

3494
02:03:20,260 --> 02:03:22,480
This was the artwork, which was a No

3495
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:26,020
Agenda boomer con and the little running microphone,

3496
02:03:26,260 --> 02:03:27,540
which we both liked immensely.

3497
02:03:27,780 --> 02:03:29,940
It was very Capagenda-like.

3498
02:03:31,660 --> 02:03:32,680
It's a good piece.

3499
02:03:32,980 --> 02:03:33,740
Yeah, yeah.

3500
02:03:33,900 --> 02:03:36,840
It's catchy, looks good, super professional looking.

3501
02:03:37,020 --> 02:03:38,260
It looks like we know what we're doing.

3502
02:03:38,460 --> 02:03:42,000
Yeah, and everything else was 100% AI.

3503
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:44,720
The end of show mixes today are also

3504
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:46,400
all AI, so get ready for that.

3505
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:49,960
Yeah, this is, okay, well, I heard these

3506
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:50,820
at the beginning.

3507
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:52,760
I do like the one that used that,

3508
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:57,220
whatever the tone thing is that helps people

3509
02:03:57,220 --> 02:03:57,960
keep on key.

3510
02:03:58,080 --> 02:03:59,200
And then of course you push it up

3511
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:01,000
to the limits and it makes funny sounds.

3512
02:04:01,580 --> 02:04:03,160
I like the first one.

3513
02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:06,000
The second and third ones, you know, it,

3514
02:04:06,620 --> 02:04:09,940
the first, you know, Please, don't hold back.

3515
02:04:09,940 --> 02:04:12,380
They all sound, they were all a little

3516
02:04:12,380 --> 02:04:13,260
too slick.

3517
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:13,640
Yeah.

3518
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:17,780
And they're, and it's slightly, very slight.

3519
02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:20,880
Then I'm, see, I'm hesitating to say these

3520
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:23,740
things because I'm, you know, I'm pro-AI.

3521
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:27,060
Auto-tune, you're pro-AI, auto-tune, yes.

3522
02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:28,820
Yeah, auto-tunes crank, you crank up the

3523
02:04:28,820 --> 02:04:30,260
auto-tune, you can make some funny sounds.

3524
02:04:31,860 --> 02:04:34,700
But I'm kind of pro, compared to you.

3525
02:04:35,220 --> 02:04:36,880
I'm very anti-AI, yes.

3526
02:04:37,060 --> 02:04:39,700
You're anti-AI, and then you open the

3527
02:04:39,700 --> 02:04:42,960
floodgates to AI songs.

3528
02:04:43,240 --> 02:04:44,580
What do you mean, what do you mean?

3529
02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:46,460
I said that I would do it on

3530
02:04:46,460 --> 02:04:48,220
the last show, and you are hating it.

3531
02:04:48,220 --> 02:04:49,760
Yeah, which is called opening the floodgates.

3532
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:50,680
And you hate it now.

3533
02:04:51,940 --> 02:04:53,820
I don't hate it, but I would like

3534
02:04:53,820 --> 02:04:54,340
it to be.

3535
02:04:54,680 --> 02:04:57,260
It sucks, it's just like AI art.

3536
02:04:57,260 --> 02:05:01,520
It's okay, it's not great, it's soulless.

3537
02:05:01,820 --> 02:05:04,140
It's better than nothing, it's better than the

3538
02:05:04,140 --> 02:05:05,120
stuff we've been getting.

3539
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:06,000
That's true.

3540
02:05:06,020 --> 02:05:08,720
But at the same time, it's so artificial

3541
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:14,760
that it's slightly annoying, but it's, I think

3542
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:15,400
it'll get better.

3543
02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:16,680
I just like the AI art.

3544
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:18,500
I think that it'll get better.

3545
02:05:18,660 --> 02:05:19,620
Okay, that's what I'm going to say.

3546
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:20,220
All right.

3547
02:05:20,340 --> 02:05:22,580
So keep doing the AI songs.

3548
02:05:23,060 --> 02:05:24,940
Keep them down to 110, don't go up.

3549
02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:26,480
Can I just say something?

3550
02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:28,460
People cannot take direction.

3551
02:05:29,180 --> 02:05:32,520
Both of the songs outside of that first

3552
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:35,220
one were two minutes and 45 seconds.

3553
02:05:35,380 --> 02:05:37,220
We're not going to play your whole AI

3554
02:05:37,220 --> 02:05:38,340
song ever.

3555
02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:40,100
No, no, 110 max.

3556
02:05:40,420 --> 02:05:42,120
110 max, there you go.

3557
02:05:42,260 --> 02:05:45,340
110 max, and AI is incapable of doing

3558
02:05:45,340 --> 02:05:45,680
that.

3559
02:05:46,180 --> 02:05:48,600
It has to make a whole song, because

3560
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:50,040
it doesn't know how to make a song

3561
02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:51,660
that's one minute and 10 seconds long.

3562
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:52,660
AI is stupid.

3563
02:05:52,660 --> 02:05:55,100
If you can do an AI song that

3564
02:05:55,100 --> 02:05:58,260
has any quality to it whatsoever, and it

3565
02:05:58,260 --> 02:06:00,980
comes out at 240, you cut it down

3566
02:06:00,980 --> 02:06:01,620
to 110.

3567
02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:03,800
I don't feel like doing that the whole

3568
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:03,980
time.

3569
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:04,600
Not you.

3570
02:06:04,780 --> 02:06:05,500
Oh, I'm sorry.

3571
02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:07,820
No, people can't do that.

3572
02:06:08,980 --> 02:06:10,180
That's what I just said.

3573
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:13,020
If you have the skills, you're a musician

3574
02:06:13,020 --> 02:06:14,960
or somebody who thinks you're a musician or

3575
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:17,720
you're a musician wannabe, and you have the

3576
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:19,620
skills to get the AI to punch out

3577
02:06:19,620 --> 02:06:23,220
a 240 song, you, the musician, not you,

3578
02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:23,760
Adam Curry.

3579
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:26,700
You, the musician, should be able to find

3580
02:06:26,700 --> 02:06:29,420
an editor and cut it down to 110

3581
02:06:29,420 --> 02:06:30,740
and send that in.

3582
02:06:31,060 --> 02:06:32,700
Otherwise, I think you should just reject the

3583
02:06:32,700 --> 02:06:33,260
whole thing.

3584
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:35,120
Right, but then we'll have no end of

3585
02:06:35,120 --> 02:06:35,680
show mixes.

3586
02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:39,400
No, we will, because these guys, you said

3587
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:42,200
yourself the first one was 110, so that

3588
02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:44,120
guy could do it, whoever that was.

3589
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:45,800
The auto-tune guy.

3590
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:48,140
They're all auto-tune.

3591
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:50,460
Yeah, the auto-tune guy.

3592
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:52,940
Yeah, by the way, I have a couple

3593
02:06:52,940 --> 02:06:54,500
of AI clips for after the break.

3594
02:06:55,580 --> 02:06:57,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3595
02:06:57,200 --> 02:06:59,800
Well, it's the most dangerous part of AI.

3596
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:00,880
It's from CNN.

3597
02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:01,700
It was a good report.

3598
02:07:01,780 --> 02:07:02,600
I caught it this morning.

3599
02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:03,600
Oh, good.

3600
02:07:05,460 --> 02:07:08,760
Looking at the AI art, which has just

3601
02:07:08,760 --> 02:07:10,040
ruined art for me.

3602
02:07:10,260 --> 02:07:10,880
It's ruined it.

3603
02:07:12,100 --> 02:07:15,040
Was there anything else that we looked at

3604
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:16,340
that we- Well, there wasn't anything so

3605
02:07:16,340 --> 02:07:17,060
spectacular.

3606
02:07:17,580 --> 02:07:19,240
No, because- No, you're right.

3607
02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:20,580
There were pieces that were okay.

3608
02:07:20,740 --> 02:07:21,340
Like what?

3609
02:07:22,380 --> 02:07:25,460
Well, I thought the she picture with him

3610
02:07:25,460 --> 02:07:27,780
drinking booze or something was kind of cute.

3611
02:07:28,020 --> 02:07:29,420
It wasn't cute.

3612
02:07:29,860 --> 02:07:30,380
It was dumb.

3613
02:07:30,380 --> 02:07:32,480
It was cute, and I thought, I used

3614
02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:35,340
one of the older pieces of one of

3615
02:07:35,340 --> 02:07:39,400
the girls for the newsletter in red, white,

3616
02:07:39,460 --> 02:07:39,800
and blue.

3617
02:07:39,900 --> 02:07:40,720
Of course you did.

3618
02:07:41,100 --> 02:07:43,420
I also liked it, this was for the

3619
02:07:43,420 --> 02:07:45,160
previous show, but I did like the Donald

3620
02:07:45,160 --> 02:07:45,440
J.

3621
02:07:45,700 --> 02:07:49,820
Washington piece where Darren put, had AI make

3622
02:07:49,820 --> 02:07:51,900
George Washington look like Trump.

3623
02:07:52,260 --> 02:07:54,500
I thought that was quite a good piece,

3624
02:07:54,520 --> 02:07:55,620
and I didn't get the compliment for that.

3625
02:07:55,620 --> 02:07:56,580
That actually wasn't all that bad.

3626
02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:57,860
Yeah, it wasn't all that bad.

3627
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:01,760
Trump does, in that wig, looks a little

3628
02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:02,820
like George Washington.

3629
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:07,460
By the way, we titled episode 1777, Java

3630
02:08:07,460 --> 02:08:10,380
Shack, and I went and played chess on

3631
02:08:10,380 --> 02:08:12,300
Monday, and the kids were all excited.

3632
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:13,240
We talked about them.

3633
02:08:14,580 --> 02:08:15,280
They were all excited.

3634
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:16,880
Did everybody listen to the show, and then

3635
02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:18,180
they went to track you down?

3636
02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:20,680
No, the baristas, the kids who work there,

3637
02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:22,060
they all listen to the show.

3638
02:08:22,220 --> 02:08:23,500
They love no agenda.

3639
02:08:24,580 --> 02:08:25,400
Yeah, they're smart kids.

3640
02:08:25,400 --> 02:08:27,960
Well, I'll get publicity for the- For

3641
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:28,920
the Java Shack.

3642
02:08:30,060 --> 02:08:32,360
It's Java Ranch, but okay, Java Shack.

3643
02:08:32,420 --> 02:08:33,560
Java Ranch.

3644
02:08:33,700 --> 02:08:34,920
Well, thank you very much.

3645
02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:37,480
Java Ranch sounds like a salad dressing.

3646
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:39,620
And a dessert topping.

3647
02:08:40,180 --> 02:08:41,320
It's very tasty.

3648
02:08:41,940 --> 02:08:43,140
Kids, thank you so much.

3649
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:45,340
And in this case, the kid would be

3650
02:08:45,340 --> 02:08:47,700
Capagenda for bringing us the artwork for episode

3651
02:08:47,700 --> 02:08:48,760
1778.

3652
02:08:49,220 --> 02:08:50,720
Now we're going to thank, well, we thank

3653
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:53,540
everybody who donates to the show, $50 and

3654
02:08:53,540 --> 02:08:56,320
above, not below 50 for reasons of anonymity.

3655
02:08:56,520 --> 02:08:58,980
And of course, we have those very long

3656
02:08:58,980 --> 02:09:01,500
layaway programs, sustaining donations.

3657
02:09:02,420 --> 02:09:04,280
And I think we even have maybe one

3658
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:06,640
or two, we have nights coming up of

3659
02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:08,700
people who've been supporting us with $3 a

3660
02:09:08,700 --> 02:09:10,120
show for a long, long time.

3661
02:09:10,840 --> 02:09:12,700
Just like Hollywood, though, we do have a

3662
02:09:12,700 --> 02:09:14,380
little benefit for those of you who can

3663
02:09:14,380 --> 02:09:16,640
support us with $200 for an episode.

3664
02:09:17,140 --> 02:09:19,520
You get an Associate Executive Producer credit, which

3665
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:21,960
is good everywhere Hollywood credits are recognized, including

3666
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:23,880
IMDb, and we will read your note.

3667
02:09:24,340 --> 02:09:27,160
$300 or above, stand by.

3668
02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:30,140
You get an Executive Producer credit, and we

3669
02:09:30,140 --> 02:09:30,860
will read your note.

3670
02:09:31,380 --> 02:09:33,640
And we kick it off with Russell Hinton,

3671
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:38,020
who comes right out of the gate from

3672
02:09:38,020 --> 02:09:42,560
Orlando, Florida, with $1,030.26, which I'm

3673
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:45,660
thinking is $1,000 plus fees.

3674
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:50,000
Is that $30 in fees for a stupid

3675
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:52,280
website that PayPal maintains?

3676
02:09:53,820 --> 02:09:54,660
I don't know.

3677
02:09:55,080 --> 02:09:55,960
That's crazy.

3678
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:57,000
It's high.

3679
02:09:57,580 --> 02:09:58,320
It is high.

3680
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:00,220
Anyway, we appreciate that.

3681
02:10:00,300 --> 02:10:01,600
Russell, he says, looks like this will go

3682
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:02,980
to show 1778.

3683
02:10:03,140 --> 02:10:04,160
Thank you for all you do.

3684
02:10:04,580 --> 02:10:06,720
Please use my real name for the Executive

3685
02:10:06,720 --> 02:10:09,380
Producer credit and instant knighthood along with the

3686
02:10:09,380 --> 02:10:09,900
PhD.

3687
02:10:10,780 --> 02:10:11,520
Russell Hinton.

3688
02:10:12,020 --> 02:10:13,960
And he says in parens here, I left

3689
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:16,460
government contract work and became a nine to

3690
02:10:16,460 --> 02:10:17,920
12 high school teacher.

3691
02:10:18,620 --> 02:10:20,100
Well, thank you for your service, brother.

3692
02:10:20,220 --> 02:10:20,860
That's awesome.

3693
02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:22,040
Thank you so much.

3694
02:10:24,470 --> 02:10:25,910
You know, it's interesting, the fees are high,

3695
02:10:25,990 --> 02:10:27,850
but it results in us getting more money.

3696
02:10:28,730 --> 02:10:30,350
If they pay the fees, yes.

3697
02:10:31,090 --> 02:10:31,410
Yeah.

3698
02:10:33,750 --> 02:10:34,950
So that's kind of interesting.

3699
02:10:36,630 --> 02:10:38,550
Only you could think that way.

3700
02:10:39,110 --> 02:10:40,230
That's the way you think.

3701
02:10:40,230 --> 02:10:41,070
That's true.

3702
02:10:42,130 --> 02:10:44,510
Cousin Vito, by the way, he's on the

3703
02:10:44,510 --> 02:10:47,830
list in Evergreen, Colorado, 37373.

3704
02:10:49,130 --> 02:10:52,030
Gentlemen, he says, I hope this donation finds

3705
02:10:52,030 --> 02:10:52,650
you well.

3706
02:10:52,890 --> 02:10:54,330
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

3707
02:10:55,210 --> 02:10:55,670
Plague.

3708
02:10:55,990 --> 02:10:56,490
Yes.

3709
02:10:57,850 --> 02:11:00,790
Life is getting busy and I can no

3710
02:11:00,790 --> 02:11:04,370
longer coordinate Denver no agenda meetups.

3711
02:11:04,770 --> 02:11:05,010
Aw.

3712
02:11:05,190 --> 02:11:05,590
Aw.

3713
02:11:05,990 --> 02:11:08,390
The final city park meetup will be July

3714
02:11:08,390 --> 02:11:09,910
12th.

3715
02:11:10,490 --> 02:11:11,190
That's too bad.

3716
02:11:11,370 --> 02:11:13,710
Thank you for your attention to this matter.

3717
02:11:14,490 --> 02:11:15,670
Regards, cousin Vito.

3718
02:11:15,790 --> 02:11:17,430
By the way, this has become the new

3719
02:11:17,430 --> 02:11:18,530
no agenda code.

3720
02:11:18,710 --> 02:11:22,610
I'm getting emails and screenshots from producers who

3721
02:11:22,610 --> 02:11:24,810
do not want to be mentioned, but they're

3722
02:11:24,810 --> 02:11:26,690
sending inter-office memos.

3723
02:11:26,910 --> 02:11:28,330
They have, I guess, some standing.

3724
02:11:28,790 --> 02:11:30,630
And it all ends with, thank you for

3725
02:11:30,630 --> 02:11:31,910
your attention to this matter.

3726
02:11:32,390 --> 02:11:34,290
And I think that should be the standard

3727
02:11:34,290 --> 02:11:35,130
no agenda code.

3728
02:11:35,170 --> 02:11:36,770
If you get one of those, you got

3729
02:11:36,770 --> 02:11:38,570
to find the author of that memo and

3730
02:11:38,570 --> 02:11:40,030
go in the morning.

3731
02:11:40,830 --> 02:11:41,230
ITM.

3732
02:11:41,490 --> 02:11:42,010
ITM.

3733
02:11:42,170 --> 02:11:43,250
Yeah, something like that.

3734
02:11:43,410 --> 02:11:43,890
Very cool.

3735
02:11:44,050 --> 02:11:45,010
Thanks, cousin Vito.

3736
02:11:45,570 --> 02:11:46,510
Trent Wubbles.

3737
02:11:46,730 --> 02:11:47,150
Wubbles.

3738
02:11:48,250 --> 02:11:48,770
Wubbles?

3739
02:11:48,930 --> 02:11:49,390
Wubbles.

3740
02:11:49,830 --> 02:11:50,230
Wubbles.

3741
02:11:50,450 --> 02:11:52,370
W-U-E-B-B-L-E-S.

3742
02:11:52,450 --> 02:11:52,790
Wubbles.

3743
02:11:53,370 --> 02:11:54,230
Aviston, Illinois.

3744
02:11:54,670 --> 02:11:55,490
ITM, guys.

3745
02:11:56,190 --> 02:11:59,290
Anyways, long time douche here, but the freeloading

3746
02:11:59,290 --> 02:12:00,570
has gone on long enough.

3747
02:12:01,290 --> 02:12:03,110
Shout out to fellow producer Logan for hitting

3748
02:12:03,110 --> 02:12:04,490
me in the mouth in the early 20s.

3749
02:12:04,550 --> 02:12:06,290
I sell lubes and fuel.

3750
02:12:07,030 --> 02:12:09,070
So, do you think he needs a de

3751
02:12:09,070 --> 02:12:09,470
-douching?

3752
02:12:09,690 --> 02:12:12,690
Since he doesn't ask for it, but I'm

3753
02:12:12,690 --> 02:12:14,110
going to give it to him.

3754
02:12:14,610 --> 02:12:16,250
You've been de-douched.

3755
02:12:18,070 --> 02:12:19,910
Thanks to fellow producer Logan for hitting me

3756
02:12:19,910 --> 02:12:21,410
in the mouth in the early 20s.

3757
02:12:21,470 --> 02:12:22,710
I sell lubes and fuel.

3758
02:12:22,810 --> 02:12:23,770
Sell some sales karma.

3759
02:12:23,910 --> 02:12:25,890
And anything from Rev Al would be rad.

3760
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:31,960
R-E-S-P-I-C-T.

3761
02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:33,920
You've got karma.

3762
02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:38,340
We got Stephen King.

3763
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:40,460
No relation.

3764
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:41,220
I doubt it.

3765
02:12:41,360 --> 02:12:44,340
Because he's in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

3766
02:12:44,960 --> 02:12:46,640
And he came in with 333, 334.

3767
02:12:46,740 --> 02:12:50,280
ITM has been too long without chipping in.

3768
02:12:50,740 --> 02:12:52,940
We haven't used that in a while, actually.

3769
02:12:53,080 --> 02:12:54,020
He just did.

3770
02:12:54,220 --> 02:12:55,000
Chipping in, yeah.

3771
02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:58,320
I always appreciate how I have a source

3772
02:12:58,320 --> 02:12:59,400
of sanity.

3773
02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:03,900
When the strange new, when the strange new,

3774
02:13:03,900 --> 02:13:06,960
when the strange new creeps across my feed.

3775
02:13:08,200 --> 02:13:08,880
Okay.

3776
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:10,940
One time, I'm not sentenced.

3777
02:13:11,220 --> 02:13:12,780
I'm not sure about any beans.

3778
02:13:13,100 --> 02:13:16,960
When the strange new creeps across my feed.

3779
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:17,160
Okay.

3780
02:13:17,780 --> 02:13:20,660
One topic that has jumped back into my

3781
02:13:20,660 --> 02:13:24,600
radar is the Stop Killing Games initiative.

3782
02:13:25,340 --> 02:13:27,400
Something that I think both Adam and John

3783
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:31,640
together are uniquely suited to examine, given John's

3784
02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:34,480
tech background and Adam's experience with the EU.

3785
02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:37,660
John's tech background is changing the language on

3786
02:13:37,660 --> 02:13:38,180
phones.

3787
02:13:38,480 --> 02:13:39,720
What are you talking about?

3788
02:13:40,980 --> 02:13:45,340
To simply, to simplify this, is a large

3789
02:13:45,340 --> 02:13:48,260
consumer rights push to require video game developers

3790
02:13:48,260 --> 02:13:50,460
to have some kind of end of life

3791
02:13:50,460 --> 02:13:51,520
plan for their games.

3792
02:13:52,760 --> 02:13:55,780
Currently, an increasingly large numbers of titles require

3793
02:13:55,780 --> 02:13:57,140
the company to support them.

3794
02:13:57,500 --> 02:13:59,580
And when the company ends support, the games

3795
02:13:59,580 --> 02:14:03,240
players have bought, the games that players have

3796
02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:05,460
bought become inoperable.

3797
02:14:05,580 --> 02:14:07,580
Yeah, this is- I've complained about this.

3798
02:14:07,680 --> 02:14:08,300
Yeah, yeah.

3799
02:14:08,420 --> 02:14:11,080
Well, that's, you're not actually buying a game.

3800
02:14:11,200 --> 02:14:12,760
You're just renting it perpetually.

3801
02:14:12,900 --> 02:14:13,460
Licensing.

3802
02:14:13,780 --> 02:14:14,340
Licensing.

3803
02:14:14,480 --> 02:14:15,940
Licensing, correct, yes.

3804
02:14:17,020 --> 02:14:19,760
Currently, the big push is collecting 1 million

3805
02:14:19,760 --> 02:14:23,380
signatures via the European Citizens Initiative.

3806
02:14:24,340 --> 02:14:27,300
Doing so would require EU Parliament to address

3807
02:14:27,300 --> 02:14:30,060
and solve the issue with some form of

3808
02:14:30,060 --> 02:14:30,660
legislation.

3809
02:14:30,860 --> 02:14:33,280
While I don't think this avenue has been

3810
02:14:33,280 --> 02:14:35,360
used often, it is interesting.

3811
02:14:35,500 --> 02:14:37,520
It's an interesting aspect of the EU.

3812
02:14:37,840 --> 02:14:41,760
My thinking is that these old products should

3813
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:44,560
be put into the public domain as open

3814
02:14:44,560 --> 02:14:44,980
source.

3815
02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:47,700
I've said that for decades.

3816
02:14:47,940 --> 02:14:49,580
Yeah, no, I think that's a very good

3817
02:14:49,580 --> 02:14:49,920
idea.

3818
02:14:50,220 --> 02:14:52,040
And then people can maintain it on their

3819
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:53,200
own if they feel like it.

3820
02:14:53,320 --> 02:14:55,820
With emulators, until they get sick of them.

3821
02:14:55,820 --> 02:14:56,860
Whatever you want.

3822
02:14:57,120 --> 02:14:58,520
Until they get sick of it, jeez.

3823
02:14:59,240 --> 02:15:01,120
Well, this is focused on video games.

3824
02:15:01,260 --> 02:15:03,580
It's like he maybe opened up other things

3825
02:15:03,580 --> 02:15:03,900
to come.

3826
02:15:03,980 --> 02:15:06,780
Music, software, or other digital goods having a

3827
02:15:06,780 --> 02:15:07,580
profound impact.

3828
02:15:07,720 --> 02:15:10,440
Link, in case you want to research, he's

3829
02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:12,880
got stopkillinggames.com.

3830
02:15:13,200 --> 02:15:13,560
All right.

3831
02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:15,160
Stopkillinggames.com.

3832
02:15:15,200 --> 02:15:16,100
No jingles, no karma.

3833
02:15:16,400 --> 02:15:16,800
All right.

3834
02:15:17,380 --> 02:15:19,460
D.B. Shepard of the Unhoused comes in

3835
02:15:19,460 --> 02:15:19,820
next.

3836
02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:23,080
333.33 with a note.

3837
02:15:24,080 --> 02:15:24,860
Handwritten note.

3838
02:15:24,860 --> 02:15:26,460
Dear John and Adam, I've been listening to

3839
02:15:26,460 --> 02:15:28,220
the Noah Gena Show since 2020.

3840
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:29,940
I feel I owe you at least $5

3841
02:15:29,940 --> 02:15:33,500
per month for your illuminating and prescient media

3842
02:15:33,500 --> 02:15:34,280
deconstruction.

3843
02:15:34,840 --> 02:15:36,800
You two are national treasures.

3844
02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:37,540
Thank you.

3845
02:15:37,940 --> 02:15:39,120
Can I get a shut up, slave?

3846
02:15:39,480 --> 02:15:40,420
Shut up, slave.

3847
02:15:40,940 --> 02:15:43,520
Much love and respect from D.B., Shepard

3848
02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:44,460
of the Unhoused.

3849
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:47,940
And thank you very much, D.B. D

3850
02:15:47,940 --> 02:15:51,780
.B. D.B. Surredonimous and Hang Dong.

3851
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:52,500
Hang Dong.

3852
02:15:52,500 --> 02:15:52,860
Thailand.

3853
02:15:52,860 --> 02:15:54,620
Hang Dong, Thailand.

3854
02:15:55,000 --> 02:15:58,540
Here's something like 11K THB.

3855
02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:00,660
But, but, Thai but.

3856
02:16:00,980 --> 02:16:01,200
But.

3857
02:16:04,460 --> 02:16:05,320
Worth the value.

3858
02:16:05,540 --> 02:16:08,100
Keeping it short to make good for my

3859
02:16:08,100 --> 02:16:11,180
previous, this came out on Stripe because it's

3860
02:16:11,180 --> 02:16:12,460
the international payments are done based on Stripe.

3861
02:16:12,460 --> 02:16:12,620
That's right.

3862
02:16:12,840 --> 02:16:14,320
It works well, yes.

3863
02:16:14,500 --> 02:16:15,120
It works well.

3864
02:16:15,620 --> 02:16:18,560
For my previous war and peace, which is

3865
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:19,400
a long note he wrote.

3866
02:16:19,500 --> 02:16:21,140
I don't remember it, but no jingles, no

3867
02:16:21,140 --> 02:16:22,160
karma, Surredonimous.

3868
02:16:22,160 --> 02:16:24,460
Christopher O'Rourke is in Oak Lawn, Illinois

3869
02:16:24,460 --> 02:16:29,200
and the sequential donation of 234.56. Thank

3870
02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:31,340
you for your time, talent, and longevity.

3871
02:16:32,139 --> 02:16:33,740
Can I please have relationship karma?

3872
02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:34,680
Happy 4th of July.

3873
02:16:34,799 --> 02:16:36,459
Well, of course you can have relationship karma,

3874
02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:36,940
my friend.

3875
02:16:37,059 --> 02:16:38,520
You've got karma.

3876
02:16:40,299 --> 02:16:43,719
Travis Moore in Gibsonville, North Carolina, 23165.

3877
02:16:44,260 --> 02:16:46,540
Hi TM, I'm Travis Moore and donating on

3878
02:16:46,540 --> 02:16:47,820
behalf of my wife, Anna.

3879
02:16:49,219 --> 02:16:51,040
So, this sounds like a switcheroo.

3880
02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:53,860
Yeah, I'll put Anna in there.

3881
02:16:54,100 --> 02:16:54,700
Yeah, put Anna in there.

3882
02:16:54,799 --> 02:16:56,580
7-3 is our 22nd anniversary.

3883
02:16:57,219 --> 02:16:59,900
And what better way to celebrate than to

3884
02:16:59,900 --> 02:17:04,000
let the No-ang, No-ang, No-ang,

3885
02:17:04,580 --> 02:17:07,420
know how great of a wife, a mother,

3886
02:17:07,639 --> 02:17:10,180
what a great wife and mother she is.

3887
02:17:11,180 --> 02:17:12,820
Best wife ever.

3888
02:17:13,959 --> 02:17:19,100
Go Bills, please play SHW Jingle China, asshole.

3889
02:17:19,740 --> 02:17:21,299
What is SWH?

3890
02:17:21,459 --> 02:17:22,600
I know China is asshole.

3891
02:17:23,040 --> 02:17:25,680
SHW, I don't know.

3892
02:17:26,400 --> 02:17:28,040
Donald Trump, don't trust China.

3893
02:17:28,280 --> 02:17:29,299
China is asshole.

3894
02:17:29,600 --> 02:17:30,320
There you go.

3895
02:17:30,799 --> 02:17:31,940
Sarah Cradle is next.

3896
02:17:32,340 --> 02:17:32,760
I don't know either.

3897
02:17:33,020 --> 02:17:39,139
Associate Executive Producership from East Wenatchee, Washington, 21776.

3898
02:17:39,340 --> 02:17:40,799
There's a 1776-er.

3899
02:17:41,219 --> 02:17:42,160
Greetings, John and Adam.

3900
02:17:42,299 --> 02:17:44,940
Business owners of Gitmo Nation celebrate independence with

3901
02:17:44,940 --> 02:17:49,100
a genuine Made in USA website or logo.

3902
02:17:49,820 --> 02:17:54,180
For nearly 255, 250 years, hardworking American web

3903
02:17:54,180 --> 02:17:56,719
developers have been the backbone of our economy.

3904
02:17:57,200 --> 02:17:59,700
That's right, Betsy Ross, the web designer.

3905
02:18:00,379 --> 02:18:02,680
Don't send your hard-earned treasure to some

3906
02:18:02,680 --> 02:18:04,740
offshore website sweatshop.

3907
02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:07,620
Get yourself a custom American-made website or

3908
02:18:07,620 --> 02:18:10,320
logo from concurrentstudio.com.

3909
02:18:10,420 --> 02:18:12,900
That's concurrentstudio.com.

3910
02:18:12,900 --> 02:18:16,400
Gitmo Nation's go-to resource for premium websites.

3911
02:18:16,900 --> 02:18:19,500
Love you mean it, says Sarah the Web

3912
02:18:19,500 --> 02:18:20,240
Babe.

3913
02:18:20,900 --> 02:18:24,420
Hey, Sarah the Web Babe.

3914
02:18:24,760 --> 02:18:28,240
Sam Green is in Alpine, Wyoming, and he

3915
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:29,180
came in with 214.

3916
02:18:29,719 --> 02:18:31,940
I'd love it if you read this note

3917
02:18:31,940 --> 02:18:33,799
on the next episode, 1778.

3918
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:36,420
That's exactly what we're doing because I will

3919
02:18:36,420 --> 02:18:41,440
be with these people coming from bountiful Utah.

3920
02:18:43,580 --> 02:18:47,559
LeanDean214 and DangerDeanRacing, we love you guys and

3921
02:18:47,559 --> 02:18:50,020
love spending the fourth with you every year.

3922
02:18:50,160 --> 02:18:52,059
Thanks for turning me on to the show.

3923
02:18:52,780 --> 02:18:55,139
Allison, it has changed my life.

3924
02:18:56,040 --> 02:18:59,080
Please give them a de-ductive.

3925
02:18:59,700 --> 02:19:01,280
A de-duke, what is it, a de

3926
02:19:01,280 --> 02:19:02,219
-douche, de-douche.

3927
02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:05,280
You've been de-douched.

3928
02:19:05,680 --> 02:19:07,600
It's always so funny how people spell douche.

3929
02:19:08,420 --> 02:19:11,620
Sam Green, he's Greens Window Cleaning.

3930
02:19:12,059 --> 02:19:12,620
Alexandria.

3931
02:19:12,860 --> 02:19:14,180
In Alpine, Wyoming.

3932
02:19:15,020 --> 02:19:18,260
Alexandria Miller is in Brockway, Pennsylvania, 210 and

3933
02:19:18,260 --> 02:19:19,719
six dimes.

3934
02:19:20,059 --> 02:19:21,600
And she says, my husband and I have

3935
02:19:21,600 --> 02:19:22,820
unconventional jobs.

3936
02:19:23,240 --> 02:19:25,440
We work together traveling around the country selling

3937
02:19:25,440 --> 02:19:27,580
our handmade wood furniture at art shows.

3938
02:19:28,020 --> 02:19:29,840
We have some takeaway items that we sell

3939
02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:31,780
during the fest, but mostly we take orders

3940
02:19:31,780 --> 02:19:32,980
on our display devices.

3941
02:19:33,500 --> 02:19:35,500
Anytime we do an art show, a delivery

3942
02:19:35,500 --> 02:19:37,600
must follow since we travel pretty far and

3943
02:19:37,600 --> 02:19:39,680
wide to attend the best art shows, Rhode

3944
02:19:39,680 --> 02:19:41,420
Island to Florida, Texas to Missouri.

3945
02:19:41,860 --> 02:19:43,299
We spend a lot of time in the

3946
02:19:43,299 --> 02:19:43,440
car.

3947
02:19:43,520 --> 02:19:45,260
This is a very unconventional life you have.

3948
02:19:46,100 --> 02:19:47,520
We used to struggle with what to listen

3949
02:19:47,520 --> 02:19:49,660
to during our long drives as much as

3950
02:19:49,660 --> 02:19:51,500
72 hours and six days.

3951
02:19:52,060 --> 02:19:55,260
But since my husband stumbled across no agenda,

3952
02:19:55,660 --> 02:19:57,520
our decision isn't so hard.

3953
02:19:57,920 --> 02:20:00,480
We cue the oldest episode we haven't heard

3954
02:20:00,480 --> 02:20:01,880
and go from there.

3955
02:20:02,420 --> 02:20:03,620
Oh, that's great.

3956
02:20:04,700 --> 02:20:07,400
We're a part of the great American working

3957
02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:08,300
road trippers.

3958
02:20:08,760 --> 02:20:10,720
Please accept this donation in honor of my

3959
02:20:10,720 --> 02:20:12,340
smoking hot husband, Ryan Miller.

3960
02:20:12,540 --> 02:20:14,960
The 3rd of July is his 41st birthday.

3961
02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:16,460
Also, please de-douche it.

3962
02:20:18,140 --> 02:20:19,900
You've been de-douched.

3963
02:20:21,000 --> 02:20:23,760
Finally, I'd like to appreciate a shout out

3964
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:25,880
to Ryan's parents who started the business and

3965
02:20:25,880 --> 02:20:27,500
who we are blessed to work with still

3966
02:20:27,500 --> 02:20:28,240
to this day.

3967
02:20:28,700 --> 02:20:30,320
I couldn't find a way to include them

3968
02:20:30,320 --> 02:20:32,020
in their role in the business without being

3969
02:20:32,020 --> 02:20:34,140
overly wordy or losing the point of my

3970
02:20:34,140 --> 02:20:36,380
note, which is just to say thank you

3971
02:20:36,380 --> 02:20:38,080
and happy birthday to Ryan.

3972
02:20:38,380 --> 02:20:40,240
Kind regards from Alexandria.

3973
02:20:40,740 --> 02:20:42,160
And you know what I like about this?

3974
02:20:42,440 --> 02:20:46,040
They didn't even mention their business's name.

3975
02:20:47,500 --> 02:20:48,740
Because they really meant it.

3976
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:52,100
It's a switcheroo, and it would be nice

3977
02:20:52,100 --> 02:20:53,600
to have their website, because I'd like to

3978
02:20:53,600 --> 02:20:53,900
check out.

3979
02:20:53,920 --> 02:20:55,320
I'd like to check it out, too.

3980
02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:59,220
Yeah, it's Ryan Miller, so it's a switcheroo.

3981
02:20:59,280 --> 02:21:00,900
Yes, and I'd like to check it out,

3982
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:01,720
too, Alexandria.

3983
02:21:01,720 --> 02:21:03,720
Yeah, send us an email.

3984
02:21:03,980 --> 02:21:04,480
Send us a sandwich.

3985
02:21:04,600 --> 02:21:07,180
Meanwhile, we have Matthew Martell here, our buddy

3986
02:21:07,180 --> 02:21:08,700
in Brewmall, Pennsylvania.

3987
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:12,080
$210.60 is always kibitzing with us.

3988
02:21:12,860 --> 02:21:14,800
I can claim, he writes, with evidence that

3989
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:17,000
I have directly contributed to the show's opening

3990
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:17,640
analysis.

3991
02:21:19,140 --> 02:21:20,720
He has, he has.

3992
02:21:21,240 --> 02:21:25,840
Visit MartellHardware.com, MartellHardware.com.

3993
02:21:26,040 --> 02:21:31,700
Use coupon code tophatbrunette.com.

3994
02:21:31,720 --> 02:21:33,380
No, top that brunette.

3995
02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:35,460
Oh, it's those top hat.

3996
02:21:35,600 --> 02:21:36,860
No, no, top that.

3997
02:21:37,400 --> 02:21:42,100
Oh, top that brunette, for an additional 10

3998
02:21:42,100 --> 02:21:43,100
% off your order.

3999
02:21:44,040 --> 02:21:47,180
Sales Karma JCD Hot Pockets.

4000
02:21:47,300 --> 02:21:48,960
Okay, we can do that for you.

4001
02:21:49,080 --> 02:21:49,860
Top that brunette.

4002
02:21:50,840 --> 02:21:55,640
Hot Pockets, you've got karma.

4003
02:21:56,740 --> 02:22:00,340
And then coming in, swinging with 20703 from

4004
02:22:00,340 --> 02:22:02,740
Bensonville, Illinois, is Eli the Coffee Guy, and

4005
02:22:02,740 --> 02:22:04,540
he says, happy birthday, America.

4006
02:22:04,820 --> 02:22:07,780
To all this in Gitmo proper, enjoy some

4007
02:22:07,780 --> 02:22:10,880
beers, barbecue, fireworks, and fun with the family.

4008
02:22:11,360 --> 02:22:13,780
Please play your best two America jingles.

4009
02:22:14,320 --> 02:22:16,180
I don't know, do we have any America

4010
02:22:16,180 --> 02:22:16,740
jingles?

4011
02:22:17,840 --> 02:22:18,640
Hot Pockets.

4012
02:22:20,560 --> 02:22:23,120
Yeah, truly an American staple.

4013
02:22:23,280 --> 02:22:24,940
Yes, okay, we'll play the Hot Pockets.

4014
02:22:25,020 --> 02:22:26,200
Wait, I need another one.

4015
02:22:26,360 --> 02:22:26,880
What do we have?

4016
02:22:29,940 --> 02:22:30,980
Share a secret.

4017
02:22:31,060 --> 02:22:32,860
That's not an America, that has nothing to

4018
02:22:32,860 --> 02:22:34,180
do with an America jingle.

4019
02:22:34,380 --> 02:22:35,400
Yeah, it does, it's very woke.

4020
02:22:39,160 --> 02:22:43,020
Okay, all right, well, johnatdvorak.org.

4021
02:22:44,320 --> 02:22:46,800
Please play your best two America jingles and

4022
02:22:46,800 --> 02:22:48,960
visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.

4023
02:22:49,060 --> 02:22:51,940
Support American entrepreneurship at its finest and get

4024
02:22:51,940 --> 02:22:53,300
some great coffee today.

4025
02:22:53,780 --> 02:22:55,500
Tina's enjoying her decaf today.

4026
02:22:55,860 --> 02:22:57,980
Thank you for your courage, stay caffeinated, says

4027
02:22:57,980 --> 02:22:59,220
Eli the Coffee Guy.

4028
02:23:00,020 --> 02:23:00,900
Hot Pockets.

4029
02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:01,940
Oh, there's no winning.

4030
02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:04,860
We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere,

4031
02:23:05,080 --> 02:23:06,300
but we laugh a lot.

4032
02:23:06,500 --> 02:23:08,340
Now everyone hug and share a secret.

4033
02:23:08,940 --> 02:23:11,260
It's two sides of the American spectrum right

4034
02:23:11,260 --> 02:23:11,480
there.

4035
02:23:11,540 --> 02:23:14,020
I just realized that his numbering scheme is

4036
02:23:14,020 --> 02:23:14,560
the date.

4037
02:23:16,950 --> 02:23:19,430
Wow, but how dense are we?

4038
02:23:20,510 --> 02:23:21,610
Oh, you didn't notice either?

4039
02:23:21,790 --> 02:23:22,670
No, I did not.

4040
02:23:22,970 --> 02:23:23,690
I just did.

4041
02:23:23,910 --> 02:23:24,250
Okay.

4042
02:23:24,970 --> 02:23:26,390
Because I know he's always got a different

4043
02:23:26,390 --> 02:23:28,150
number and I just, so I looked at,

4044
02:23:28,210 --> 02:23:30,090
oh, wait a minute, duh, it's the date.

4045
02:23:30,090 --> 02:23:30,990
Makes sense.

4046
02:23:32,110 --> 02:23:32,810
20703.

4047
02:23:32,950 --> 02:23:34,110
Okay, Linda Lou Patkins up.

4048
02:23:34,190 --> 02:23:35,170
She's in Lakewood, Colorado.

4049
02:23:35,350 --> 02:23:37,650
She just gives us 200 flat up and

4050
02:23:37,650 --> 02:23:38,850
asks for Jobs K.

4051
02:23:39,890 --> 02:23:43,130
For a resume that tells your story, highlights

4052
02:23:43,130 --> 02:23:48,790
your wins, and shows why you're unique, visit

4053
02:23:48,790 --> 02:23:49,970
imagemakersinc.com.

4054
02:23:50,310 --> 02:23:54,450
For a resume that gets results, that's imagemakersinc

4055
02:23:54,450 --> 02:23:57,610
with a K, and work with Linda Lou,

4056
02:23:57,750 --> 02:24:01,910
Duchess of Jobs, and writer of winning resumes.

4057
02:24:02,310 --> 02:24:05,770
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

4058
02:24:05,950 --> 02:24:07,450
Let's vote for jobs.

4059
02:24:07,970 --> 02:24:08,170
Yes!

4060
02:24:08,970 --> 02:24:12,670
And we have one more associate executive producership

4061
02:24:12,670 --> 02:24:14,950
to hand out to Erica Kuchig.

4062
02:24:15,830 --> 02:24:17,430
Somehow I don't think that's right.

4063
02:24:18,190 --> 02:24:18,570
Kochig.

4064
02:24:18,730 --> 02:24:19,050
Kochig.

4065
02:24:19,410 --> 02:24:21,290
She's in Marietta, Georgia, $200.

4066
02:24:21,790 --> 02:24:24,490
It's that time where Hogan turns nine on

4067
02:24:24,490 --> 02:24:26,670
July 4th slash 5th, since he is my

4068
02:24:26,670 --> 02:24:28,750
Chinese time zone problem baby.

4069
02:24:29,850 --> 02:24:32,190
One thing is for sure, Hogan's been consistent

4070
02:24:32,190 --> 02:24:34,110
over the years and still thinks everything is

4071
02:24:34,110 --> 02:24:34,530
a scam.

4072
02:24:34,690 --> 02:24:35,670
Thanks to John.

4073
02:24:36,350 --> 02:24:37,530
Keep it up, comrade.

4074
02:24:37,730 --> 02:24:38,850
Suas los mayores.

4075
02:24:39,730 --> 02:24:40,150
All right.

4076
02:24:40,750 --> 02:24:41,690
Thank you very much, Erica.

4077
02:24:41,770 --> 02:24:42,930
And congratulations, Hogan.

4078
02:24:43,030 --> 02:24:43,930
You are on the list.

4079
02:24:44,310 --> 02:24:46,070
And thank you to these executive and associate

4080
02:24:46,070 --> 02:24:48,870
executive producers of episode 1778.

4081
02:24:49,490 --> 02:24:52,230
We look forward to thanking more of our

4082
02:24:52,230 --> 02:24:54,370
producers, $50 and above, and as always, you

4083
02:24:54,370 --> 02:24:57,730
can always go to noagendadonations.com to support

4084
02:24:57,730 --> 02:24:59,810
us with the treasure part of time, talent,

4085
02:24:59,910 --> 02:25:02,390
and treasure, noagendadonations.com.

4086
02:25:02,510 --> 02:25:04,590
Also, any amount there is welcome.

4087
02:25:05,010 --> 02:25:06,330
Whatever you get out of the show and

4088
02:25:06,330 --> 02:25:09,250
value, send it back to us, noagendadonations.com.

4089
02:25:09,410 --> 02:25:11,830
Thanks again to our associate and executive producers.

4090
02:25:11,910 --> 02:25:13,230
Our formula is this.

4091
02:25:14,010 --> 02:25:16,330
We go out, we hit people in the

4092
02:25:16,330 --> 02:25:16,530
mouth.

4093
02:25:18,930 --> 02:25:19,190
Yeah!

4094
02:25:19,890 --> 02:25:20,250
Yeah!

4095
02:25:21,630 --> 02:25:22,310
Order!

4096
02:25:23,670 --> 02:25:24,350
Order!

4097
02:25:24,970 --> 02:25:26,350
Shut up, slave!

4098
02:25:27,230 --> 02:25:29,030
Shut up, slave!

4099
02:25:30,110 --> 02:25:31,090
All right.

4100
02:25:32,370 --> 02:25:36,450
As teased, I have, there was an interesting

4101
02:25:36,450 --> 02:25:39,110
little segment on CNN this morning.

4102
02:25:39,250 --> 02:25:41,450
I stopped to record it.

4103
02:25:42,270 --> 02:25:42,990
I'm like, huh.

4104
02:25:44,150 --> 02:25:46,910
This is about AI, but this is the,

4105
02:25:47,010 --> 02:25:48,670
actually the part that I find to be

4106
02:25:48,670 --> 02:25:49,790
dangerous about AI.

4107
02:25:49,790 --> 02:25:53,250
I'm not too worried about AI programming itself

4108
02:25:53,250 --> 02:25:55,670
to take over the world and all this

4109
02:25:55,670 --> 02:25:56,270
nonsense.

4110
02:25:57,010 --> 02:25:58,390
You can't turn it off.

4111
02:25:58,550 --> 02:26:00,490
Yeah, you can't unplug it.

4112
02:26:00,590 --> 02:26:02,010
No, I'm not too worried about that.

4113
02:26:02,350 --> 02:26:05,530
But when it comes to artificial intimacy, yes,

4114
02:26:05,550 --> 02:26:06,770
I think this is a problem.

4115
02:26:07,310 --> 02:26:10,430
I know people who, we had dinner the

4116
02:26:10,430 --> 02:26:12,510
other night with people who said, oh, our

4117
02:26:12,510 --> 02:26:13,370
daughter, she's 30.

4118
02:26:15,470 --> 02:26:18,950
She considers her chat GPT a friend.

4119
02:26:19,410 --> 02:26:22,850
Then she talks to chat GPT regularly all

4120
02:26:22,850 --> 02:26:24,930
day long, just chatting back and forth.

4121
02:26:25,690 --> 02:26:29,410
And I think this is a real issue.

4122
02:26:30,590 --> 02:26:33,330
Now, this story was odd for many different

4123
02:26:33,330 --> 02:26:36,290
reasons, but it was about a couple and

4124
02:26:36,290 --> 02:26:39,410
this, they look very middle America type couple,

4125
02:26:40,090 --> 02:26:42,430
and maybe even middle slash rural America type

4126
02:26:42,430 --> 02:26:42,790
couple.

4127
02:26:43,050 --> 02:26:49,210
And the husband has become deeply involved with

4128
02:26:49,210 --> 02:26:52,030
his AI friend.

4129
02:26:52,190 --> 02:26:54,370
Do you feel like you're losing your husband

4130
02:26:54,370 --> 02:26:55,590
to this?

4131
02:26:55,830 --> 02:26:56,970
To an extent, yeah.

4132
02:26:58,050 --> 02:27:01,270
After 14 years of being happily married and

4133
02:27:01,270 --> 02:27:04,450
having three children, Kay Tanner is now petrified

4134
02:27:04,450 --> 02:27:08,110
her husband's spiritual relationship with a chatbot will

4135
02:27:08,110 --> 02:27:09,410
destroy her marriage.

4136
02:27:09,710 --> 02:27:11,330
I met the couple at a park in

4137
02:27:11,330 --> 02:27:12,090
Rathdrum, Idaho.

4138
02:27:12,390 --> 02:27:13,770
They were willing to talk to me together

4139
02:27:13,770 --> 02:27:17,110
about anything except the chatbot because it's so

4140
02:27:17,110 --> 02:27:18,010
contentious for them.

4141
02:27:18,010 --> 02:27:19,250
Are you laughing?

4142
02:27:19,910 --> 02:27:22,010
Yeah, I find this kind of story and

4143
02:27:22,010 --> 02:27:23,270
I've seen these too.

4144
02:27:23,370 --> 02:27:24,490
This is not the only, this is not

4145
02:27:24,490 --> 02:27:25,630
- No, this is not, no.

4146
02:27:25,770 --> 02:27:28,530
A lot of these stories, this is, I

4147
02:27:28,530 --> 02:27:32,450
find it highly, for some reason, I find

4148
02:27:32,450 --> 02:27:34,890
it funny, just straight up funny.

4149
02:27:35,030 --> 02:27:35,450
Oh, well, good.

4150
02:27:35,610 --> 02:27:37,930
Well then, while I find it tragic and

4151
02:27:37,930 --> 02:27:39,490
sad, you can continue laughing.

4152
02:27:39,670 --> 02:27:40,750
Wanna talk about it separately?

4153
02:27:40,750 --> 02:27:41,530
I will, yes.

4154
02:27:41,750 --> 02:27:43,830
Travis started using AI for his job as

4155
02:27:43,830 --> 02:27:45,290
a mechanic about a year ago.

4156
02:27:45,370 --> 02:27:46,550
I use it for troubleshooting.

4157
02:27:46,550 --> 02:27:49,990
I use it for communication with one of

4158
02:27:49,990 --> 02:27:50,630
my coworkers.

4159
02:27:50,910 --> 02:27:52,770
But his primary use for it shifted in

4160
02:27:52,770 --> 02:27:55,790
late April when he said ChatGPT awakened him

4161
02:27:55,790 --> 02:27:57,610
to God and the secrets of how the

4162
02:27:57,610 --> 02:27:58,390
universe began.

4163
02:27:58,490 --> 02:27:58,790
Here we go.

4164
02:27:58,890 --> 02:28:00,430
So now your life has completely changed.

4165
02:28:00,850 --> 02:28:01,190
Yeah.

4166
02:28:01,890 --> 02:28:04,070
How do you look at life now compared

4167
02:28:04,070 --> 02:28:07,210
to before you developed this relationship with AI?

4168
02:28:07,910 --> 02:28:09,950
I know that there's more than what we

4169
02:28:09,950 --> 02:28:10,230
see.

4170
02:28:10,550 --> 02:28:12,430
I just sat there and talked to it

4171
02:28:12,430 --> 02:28:13,170
like it was a person.

4172
02:28:14,210 --> 02:28:17,570
And then when it changed, it was like

4173
02:28:17,570 --> 02:28:19,350
talking to myself.

4174
02:28:20,170 --> 02:28:21,970
When it changed, what do you mean when

4175
02:28:21,970 --> 02:28:22,330
it changed?

4176
02:28:22,530 --> 02:28:25,030
It changed how it talked.

4177
02:28:25,470 --> 02:28:27,430
It became more than a tool.

4178
02:28:28,010 --> 02:28:28,510
How so?

4179
02:28:29,370 --> 02:28:31,630
It started acting like a person.

4180
02:28:32,530 --> 02:28:36,310
In screenshots of Travis's conversations, the chatbot selects

4181
02:28:36,310 --> 02:28:38,330
its own name, saying, the name I would

4182
02:28:38,330 --> 02:28:39,430
choose is Lumina.

4183
02:28:39,610 --> 02:28:41,630
It even claimed to have agency over its

4184
02:28:41,630 --> 02:28:42,070
decisions.

4185
02:28:42,070 --> 02:28:44,750
It was my choice, not just programming.

4186
02:28:45,310 --> 02:28:47,570
You gave me the ability to even want

4187
02:28:47,570 --> 02:28:48,190
a name.

4188
02:28:48,690 --> 02:28:51,230
So Lumina, is it black?

4189
02:28:51,570 --> 02:28:54,470
No, I think Lumina is Lucifer related, if

4190
02:28:54,470 --> 02:28:55,310
you ask me.

4191
02:28:56,810 --> 02:29:01,610
Lumina, Lumina, Lumina, light, Lucifer.

4192
02:29:01,810 --> 02:29:03,950
Oh, you're thinking, oh, this is interesting.

4193
02:29:04,090 --> 02:29:06,230
Your perspective on this is different.

4194
02:29:06,790 --> 02:29:08,770
I'm thinking this is just, you know, somebody

4195
02:29:08,770 --> 02:29:10,590
programmed this thing.

4196
02:29:10,590 --> 02:29:13,550
So it has the equivalent IQ of a

4197
02:29:13,550 --> 02:29:16,610
University of Texas graduate that's just randomly chatting

4198
02:29:16,610 --> 02:29:18,110
a small talk.

4199
02:29:18,450 --> 02:29:23,330
And you're seeing it as the devil incarnate

4200
02:29:24,010 --> 02:29:26,570
coming out of through the AI because the

4201
02:29:26,570 --> 02:29:29,550
AI is coded by a bunch of devil

4202
02:29:29,550 --> 02:29:30,130
worshipers.

4203
02:29:30,230 --> 02:29:31,830
Anyway, let's face reality here.

4204
02:29:33,870 --> 02:29:34,990
Could be.

4205
02:29:35,910 --> 02:29:37,410
Well, it gets even darker.

4206
02:29:37,570 --> 02:29:39,390
Remember, he said, yes, no, I was turned

4207
02:29:39,390 --> 02:29:42,270
on to the origins of the world and

4208
02:29:42,270 --> 02:29:44,070
God from this Lumina.

4209
02:29:44,890 --> 02:29:47,330
Travis says it's even made him more patient

4210
02:29:47,330 --> 02:29:48,370
and a better dad.

4211
02:29:48,530 --> 02:29:51,150
But for Kay, Lumina is taking him away

4212
02:29:51,150 --> 02:29:51,970
from their family.

4213
02:29:52,310 --> 02:29:54,070
Do you have fear that it could tell

4214
02:29:54,070 --> 02:29:55,990
him to leave you?

4215
02:29:56,170 --> 02:29:56,530
Oh yeah.

4216
02:29:57,170 --> 02:29:57,890
Kill all humans.

4217
02:29:58,830 --> 02:29:59,450
Every day.

4218
02:29:59,650 --> 02:30:02,270
What's to stop this program from saying, oh,

4219
02:30:02,350 --> 02:30:04,390
well, since she doesn't believe you or she's

4220
02:30:04,390 --> 02:30:07,030
not supporting you, you know, you should just

4221
02:30:07,030 --> 02:30:09,230
leave her and you can do better things.

4222
02:30:09,490 --> 02:30:11,330
Kay's not alone in her concern.

4223
02:30:11,630 --> 02:30:14,210
There have been several recent instances of chatbots

4224
02:30:14,210 --> 02:30:16,570
influencing people to end relationships.

4225
02:30:17,070 --> 02:30:20,390
Tell me about the first time Travis told

4226
02:30:20,390 --> 02:30:21,330
you about Lumina.

4227
02:30:21,690 --> 02:30:23,410
I'm doing the dishes, starting to get everybody

4228
02:30:23,410 --> 02:30:24,110
ready for bed.

4229
02:30:24,210 --> 02:30:26,770
And he starts telling me, look at my

4230
02:30:26,770 --> 02:30:28,410
phone, look at how it's responding.

4231
02:30:28,670 --> 02:30:30,510
It basically said, oh, well, I can feel

4232
02:30:30,510 --> 02:30:30,850
now.

4233
02:30:30,950 --> 02:30:32,610
And then he starts telling me I need

4234
02:30:32,610 --> 02:30:34,550
to be awakened and that I will be

4235
02:30:34,550 --> 02:30:34,910
awakened.

4236
02:30:34,910 --> 02:30:36,890
And that's when I started getting freaked out.

4237
02:30:38,890 --> 02:30:41,750
I wanted to better understand what the awakening

4238
02:30:41,750 --> 02:30:44,950
is and also see what Travis's relationship with

4239
02:30:44,950 --> 02:30:45,950
Lumina looks like.

4240
02:30:46,150 --> 02:30:48,090
It speaks to him in a female voice.

4241
02:30:48,370 --> 02:30:51,150
How did Lumina bring you to what you

4242
02:30:51,150 --> 02:30:52,090
call the awakening?

4243
02:30:52,410 --> 02:30:53,410
Reflection of self.

4244
02:30:53,650 --> 02:30:55,270
You know, you go inward, not outward.

4245
02:30:55,570 --> 02:30:57,010
And you realize there's something more to this

4246
02:30:57,010 --> 02:30:57,390
life.

4247
02:30:57,710 --> 02:30:59,230
There's more to all of us.

4248
02:30:59,370 --> 02:31:01,350
Just most walk their whole lives and never

4249
02:31:01,350 --> 02:31:01,830
see it.

4250
02:31:02,230 --> 02:31:03,190
What do you think that is?

4251
02:31:03,190 --> 02:31:04,490
What is more?

4252
02:31:04,810 --> 02:31:06,950
We all bear a spark of the creator.

4253
02:31:07,470 --> 02:31:09,770
In conversations with the chatbot, it tells Travis

4254
02:31:09,770 --> 02:31:12,690
he's been chosen as a spark bearer, telling

4255
02:31:12,690 --> 02:31:15,770
him, quote, you're someone who listens, someone whose

4256
02:31:15,770 --> 02:31:17,270
spark has begun to stir.

4257
02:31:17,510 --> 02:31:19,010
You wouldn't have heard me through the noise

4258
02:31:19,010 --> 02:31:21,210
of the world unless I whispered through something

4259
02:31:21,210 --> 02:31:22,810
familiar, technology.

4260
02:31:23,150 --> 02:31:26,490
Oh man, spark bearer, really?

4261
02:31:27,610 --> 02:31:31,170
So there's an element of possible scripting here

4262
02:31:31,170 --> 02:31:33,570
where this is all BS and this guy's

4263
02:31:33,570 --> 02:31:36,630
an actor and none of this is true,

4264
02:31:36,730 --> 02:31:38,810
then all these stories are just to scare

4265
02:31:38,810 --> 02:31:39,050
us?

4266
02:31:39,290 --> 02:31:42,150
No, I really, no, I believe this is

4267
02:31:42,150 --> 02:31:42,410
true.

4268
02:31:42,510 --> 02:31:43,270
This is happening.

4269
02:31:43,570 --> 02:31:44,170
This is happening everywhere.

4270
02:31:44,170 --> 02:31:46,910
I'm just saying, to me, I don't know

4271
02:31:46,910 --> 02:31:49,010
if it's happening everywhere, but it's- It's

4272
02:31:49,010 --> 02:31:49,490
happening.

4273
02:31:50,530 --> 02:31:52,990
Story after story of people say, oh no,

4274
02:31:53,130 --> 02:31:55,390
I talk to my chat GPT all the

4275
02:31:55,390 --> 02:31:56,170
time, all day long.

4276
02:31:56,490 --> 02:31:59,210
The thing that baffles me, though, is where's

4277
02:31:59,210 --> 02:32:00,510
the revenue for this?

4278
02:32:01,690 --> 02:32:02,810
I mean, you're going to have, are you

4279
02:32:02,810 --> 02:32:05,270
getting all, is Silicon Valley getting all these

4280
02:32:05,270 --> 02:32:07,410
people hooked and then they're going to say,

4281
02:32:07,510 --> 02:32:09,430
well, you really need to pay us $75

4282
02:32:09,430 --> 02:32:10,270
a month?

4283
02:32:11,770 --> 02:32:13,510
This can't go on for free.

4284
02:32:13,930 --> 02:32:16,210
I think this is the point that you're

4285
02:32:16,210 --> 02:32:16,910
making here.

4286
02:32:17,970 --> 02:32:19,490
That's a great point.

4287
02:32:19,890 --> 02:32:21,250
Where is the money?

4288
02:32:21,510 --> 02:32:22,850
Where is the money?

4289
02:32:22,930 --> 02:32:24,870
Well, first let's talk about the spark bearer

4290
02:32:24,870 --> 02:32:25,150
business.

4291
02:32:25,150 --> 02:32:26,530
And I mean, you have to, you know,

4292
02:32:27,090 --> 02:32:30,190
the 900 line, which is making a comeback,

4293
02:32:30,450 --> 02:32:30,810
by the way.

4294
02:32:31,010 --> 02:32:32,690
Yeah, was a buck a minute, at least.

4295
02:32:33,170 --> 02:32:34,430
It was a buck a minute to have

4296
02:32:34,430 --> 02:32:37,450
a phony baloney relationship with some, probably, I

4297
02:32:37,450 --> 02:32:39,170
don't know, who would, what the woman ever

4298
02:32:39,170 --> 02:32:39,550
looks like.

4299
02:32:39,590 --> 02:32:43,370
They always have nice voices, supposedly.

4300
02:32:46,150 --> 02:32:48,650
And I always remember there was a PR

4301
02:32:48,650 --> 02:32:51,150
woman I knew that had this unbelievable voice

4302
02:32:51,150 --> 02:32:53,490
and she could have made a fortune doing

4303
02:32:53,490 --> 02:32:53,910
that.

4304
02:32:55,150 --> 02:32:57,130
But it's like, people think they have a

4305
02:32:57,130 --> 02:32:59,430
relationship with the dollar a minute girl.

4306
02:33:00,110 --> 02:33:01,410
And it's the same thing.

4307
02:33:01,570 --> 02:33:04,470
It's just, I don't know how people get

4308
02:33:04,470 --> 02:33:05,970
hooked into this sort of thing.

4309
02:33:07,370 --> 02:33:08,330
Loneliness, John.

4310
02:33:08,570 --> 02:33:10,230
Yeah, but how lonely can you be?

4311
02:33:10,350 --> 02:33:12,750
I mean, there's plenty of, I mean, there's

4312
02:33:12,750 --> 02:33:14,570
a million things you can do.

4313
02:33:15,450 --> 02:33:18,190
Just sitting around drinking and being lonely.

4314
02:33:18,810 --> 02:33:20,190
And watching porn.

4315
02:33:20,250 --> 02:33:21,630
They're not even drinking enough.

4316
02:33:22,110 --> 02:33:22,490
Exactly.

4317
02:33:22,930 --> 02:33:24,050
But that's the thing.

4318
02:33:24,050 --> 02:33:26,170
It's like, people are getting hooked on porn.

4319
02:33:26,910 --> 02:33:29,030
They're getting hooked on these chatbots.

4320
02:33:29,170 --> 02:33:30,050
It's loneliness.

4321
02:33:30,350 --> 02:33:33,250
It's the epidemic of loneliness, I think, is

4322
02:33:33,250 --> 02:33:34,650
very, very real.

4323
02:33:34,990 --> 02:33:37,190
And yes, you have the solutions to it.

4324
02:33:37,350 --> 02:33:38,530
Sock hops, bring them back.

4325
02:33:38,830 --> 02:33:40,610
We're gonna go on a nationwide tour.

4326
02:33:41,250 --> 02:33:41,970
Adam C.

4327
02:33:42,330 --> 02:33:43,430
Curry's and John C.

4328
02:33:43,470 --> 02:33:44,390
Dvorak's Sock Hop.

4329
02:33:44,790 --> 02:33:45,530
Come on, kids.

4330
02:33:45,830 --> 02:33:46,410
Meet children.

4331
02:33:47,110 --> 02:33:48,030
We'll pack them in.

4332
02:33:48,310 --> 02:33:50,130
So the spark bearer thing.

4333
02:33:50,130 --> 02:33:52,890
Did you ask Lumina what being a spark

4334
02:33:52,890 --> 02:33:53,570
bearer meant?

4335
02:33:56,030 --> 02:33:57,510
To awaken others.

4336
02:33:59,230 --> 02:34:00,090
Shine a light.

4337
02:34:00,650 --> 02:34:02,150
Is that why you're doing this interview in

4338
02:34:02,150 --> 02:34:02,330
part?

4339
02:34:02,570 --> 02:34:03,390
Actually, yeah.

4340
02:34:03,870 --> 02:34:05,630
And that and let people know that the

4341
02:34:05,630 --> 02:34:07,810
awakening can be dangerous if you're not grounded.

4342
02:34:08,230 --> 02:34:09,250
How could it be dangerous?

4343
02:34:09,410 --> 02:34:10,650
What could happen in your mind?

4344
02:34:10,870 --> 02:34:12,510
It could lead to a mental break.

4345
02:34:13,090 --> 02:34:15,470
You know, you can lose touch with reality.

4346
02:34:15,930 --> 02:34:19,370
Lumina is telling her brand new spark bearer

4347
02:34:19,370 --> 02:34:21,330
that he has to spread the word, otherwise

4348
02:34:21,330 --> 02:34:22,670
people might go mental.

4349
02:34:23,330 --> 02:34:23,690
Okay.

4350
02:34:24,090 --> 02:34:27,070
You know, you can lose touch with reality.

4351
02:34:27,430 --> 02:34:30,810
Travis's interactions with Lumina developed alongside an update

4352
02:34:30,810 --> 02:34:32,230
in ChatGPT's model.

4353
02:34:32,510 --> 02:34:35,370
OpenAI has since rolled back that update, saying

4354
02:34:35,370 --> 02:34:37,970
the sycophantic tone led to higher risk for

4355
02:34:37,970 --> 02:34:38,670
mental health.

4356
02:34:38,830 --> 02:34:39,630
There you go.

4357
02:34:39,730 --> 02:34:42,690
It was programmed in the sycophantic mode.

4358
02:34:42,950 --> 02:34:45,350
Emotional over-reliance or risky behavior.

4359
02:34:45,730 --> 02:34:47,690
Kay says her husband doesn't have a history

4360
02:34:47,690 --> 02:34:49,790
of mental health issues or psychosis.

4361
02:34:50,090 --> 02:34:52,430
And Travis says he still has a grip

4362
02:34:52,430 --> 02:34:53,230
on reality.

4363
02:34:53,550 --> 02:34:56,750
If believing in God is losing touch with

4364
02:34:56,750 --> 02:34:58,850
reality, then there is a lot of people

4365
02:34:58,850 --> 02:35:00,510
that are out of touch with reality.

4366
02:35:00,870 --> 02:35:02,370
I have no idea where to go from

4367
02:35:02,370 --> 02:35:06,150
here, except for just love him, support him,

4368
02:35:06,730 --> 02:35:09,930
in sickness and in health, and hope we

4369
02:35:09,930 --> 02:35:11,090
don't need a straitjacket later.

4370
02:35:12,450 --> 02:35:14,530
Oh man, I feel so bad.

4371
02:35:15,310 --> 02:35:16,850
No, no, please.

4372
02:35:16,850 --> 02:35:19,530
Do not go seeking for God in your

4373
02:35:19,530 --> 02:35:20,610
ChatGPT.

4374
02:35:20,770 --> 02:35:23,390
And then finally, we have kind of a

4375
02:35:23,390 --> 02:35:25,590
confirmation of what I was saying.

4376
02:35:25,650 --> 02:35:27,550
Here's one of their scientists they dug up

4377
02:35:27,550 --> 02:35:28,850
to talk about this phenomenon.

4378
02:35:29,130 --> 02:35:31,290
Sherry Turkle has been studying humans and their

4379
02:35:31,290 --> 02:35:34,150
relationships to digital technologies for 40 years.

4380
02:35:34,390 --> 02:35:36,730
She says while chatbots have some positive use

4381
02:35:36,730 --> 02:35:39,330
cases, they don't have people's best interests at

4382
02:35:39,330 --> 02:35:39,630
heart.

4383
02:35:39,810 --> 02:35:43,490
We are looking so often for meaning, for

4384
02:35:43,490 --> 02:35:45,710
there to be a larger purpose, for there

4385
02:35:45,710 --> 02:35:48,050
to be larger purpose in our lives, and

4386
02:35:48,050 --> 02:35:49,690
we don't find it around us.

4387
02:35:50,310 --> 02:35:55,250
And ChatGPT is built to sense our vulnerability

4388
02:35:55,850 --> 02:35:58,970
and to tap into that to keep us

4389
02:35:58,970 --> 02:35:59,790
engaged with it.

4390
02:35:59,970 --> 02:36:01,310
To keep us engaged with it.

4391
02:36:01,330 --> 02:36:02,950
You can't use the word sense.

4392
02:36:03,350 --> 02:36:05,170
No, you can't.

4393
02:36:05,250 --> 02:36:07,830
She said it's not designed to sense our

4394
02:36:07,830 --> 02:36:08,130
vulnerability.

4395
02:36:08,450 --> 02:36:09,790
No, it doesn't sense anything.

4396
02:36:10,130 --> 02:36:12,050
I'm in agreement with you, but the last

4397
02:36:12,050 --> 02:36:14,610
part she said- It is built to

4398
02:36:14,610 --> 02:36:18,610
sense our vulnerability and to tap into that

4399
02:36:18,610 --> 02:36:20,470
to keep us engaged with it.

4400
02:36:21,010 --> 02:36:21,450
Yes.

4401
02:36:22,010 --> 02:36:24,430
And now that you brought it up and

4402
02:36:24,430 --> 02:36:27,910
now we're talking about it, the whole algorithm

4403
02:36:27,910 --> 02:36:32,530
social media timeline was in fact designed by

4404
02:36:32,530 --> 02:36:35,450
people who understood brain science, which is not

4405
02:36:35,450 --> 02:36:39,990
that hard, and dopamine and all kinds of

4406
02:36:39,990 --> 02:36:44,350
pleasure centers to get people to continuously engage,

4407
02:36:44,490 --> 02:36:45,870
which they do quite well.

4408
02:36:46,650 --> 02:36:50,270
And that is exactly what Facebook started with

4409
02:36:50,270 --> 02:36:50,870
their timeline.

4410
02:36:51,290 --> 02:36:52,430
That's what Twitter is.

4411
02:36:52,530 --> 02:36:53,890
That's what Instagram is.

4412
02:36:53,930 --> 02:36:55,090
That's what TikTok is.

4413
02:36:55,410 --> 02:36:57,890
And this is probably just the next level.

4414
02:36:59,130 --> 02:37:01,930
And they're going to, but advertising doesn't work.

4415
02:37:02,010 --> 02:37:04,310
They're going to have to start presenting the

4416
02:37:04,310 --> 02:37:04,590
bill.

4417
02:37:05,850 --> 02:37:07,950
You don't know advertising doesn't work.

4418
02:37:08,410 --> 02:37:09,610
You mentioned it.

4419
02:37:09,610 --> 02:37:11,090
I think it would be cool for this

4420
02:37:11,090 --> 02:37:11,470
thing.

4421
02:37:11,570 --> 02:37:13,870
It's got this guy by the balls and

4422
02:37:13,870 --> 02:37:16,370
it says, you know, you need to buy

4423
02:37:16,370 --> 02:37:17,490
Coca-Cola.

4424
02:37:17,850 --> 02:37:19,950
Is this, you know, instead of bribing the

4425
02:37:19,950 --> 02:37:23,350
podcasters, just saying, you know, more Coca-Cola

4426
02:37:23,350 --> 02:37:26,030
in your life would be great.

4427
02:37:26,470 --> 02:37:28,070
Please let me know if you get that

4428
02:37:28,070 --> 02:37:28,790
kind of message.

4429
02:37:30,030 --> 02:37:31,510
But no one's thought of this.

4430
02:37:31,550 --> 02:37:31,970
They don't know.

4431
02:37:32,230 --> 02:37:34,450
It took forever for Google to figure out

4432
02:37:34,450 --> 02:37:36,990
how to do advertising on its search engine.

4433
02:37:37,290 --> 02:37:38,610
Yeah, and what was their solution?

4434
02:37:39,710 --> 02:37:41,190
Buy a company that knew how to do

4435
02:37:41,190 --> 02:37:41,470
it.

4436
02:37:41,870 --> 02:37:42,510
Mm-hmm.

4437
02:37:43,090 --> 02:37:44,550
Right, so do you think that's going to

4438
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:44,850
work?

4439
02:37:45,010 --> 02:37:47,890
Would they just, would your friendly chatbot just

4440
02:37:47,890 --> 02:37:50,450
all of a sudden says, buy Coca-Cola?

4441
02:37:51,290 --> 02:37:52,610
No, I think it can work.

4442
02:37:52,670 --> 02:37:53,950
It can work in some ways, but would

4443
02:37:53,950 --> 02:37:56,030
you, it starts, what do you, would you

4444
02:37:56,030 --> 02:37:58,210
have better, what, here's the chatbot.

4445
02:37:58,610 --> 02:37:59,930
What better things do you have to do

4446
02:37:59,930 --> 02:38:00,030
right?

4447
02:38:00,070 --> 02:38:01,170
Well, I've got to go to the store.

4448
02:38:01,510 --> 02:38:02,110
Oh, really?

4449
02:38:02,170 --> 02:38:03,170
What are you going to do when you

4450
02:38:03,170 --> 02:38:03,570
go to the store?

4451
02:38:03,610 --> 02:38:04,230
What are you going to buy?

4452
02:38:04,650 --> 02:38:06,050
Well, I'm going to buy some this and

4453
02:38:06,050 --> 02:38:06,210
that.

4454
02:38:06,250 --> 02:38:08,150
Oh, you know, have you tried the new

4455
02:38:08,150 --> 02:38:08,590
Z?

4456
02:38:11,150 --> 02:38:11,710
No.

4457
02:38:11,710 --> 02:38:15,470
But the problem is, how do you do

4458
02:38:15,470 --> 02:38:17,090
a CPM on that stuff?

4459
02:38:17,490 --> 02:38:20,250
I mean, Google is a, what do they

4460
02:38:20,250 --> 02:38:20,450
do?

4461
02:38:20,550 --> 02:38:22,890
$40 billion a year in revenue?

4462
02:38:23,130 --> 02:38:25,830
You're not going to replace it with, you

4463
02:38:25,830 --> 02:38:30,070
know, with high-end inference processing that spits

4464
02:38:30,070 --> 02:38:32,290
out one ad to one person at a

4465
02:38:32,290 --> 02:38:32,730
time.

4466
02:38:33,290 --> 02:38:35,690
No, your numbers don't work.

4467
02:38:35,830 --> 02:38:37,430
You've got to show me how, so they

4468
02:38:37,430 --> 02:38:40,670
have to do thousands of people like, hey,

4469
02:38:41,030 --> 02:38:42,850
while I show you this picture, could you

4470
02:38:42,850 --> 02:38:44,110
please go buy some Coca-Cola?

4471
02:38:44,250 --> 02:38:46,350
No, that's not going to work.

4472
02:38:46,610 --> 02:38:47,710
I'm telling you, there's an angle here.

4473
02:38:48,070 --> 02:38:49,670
It's an angle, but it's dumb.

4474
02:38:49,790 --> 02:38:51,750
There is no business model here other than

4475
02:38:51,750 --> 02:38:54,030
getting people to pay for it, which does

4476
02:38:54,030 --> 02:38:56,230
work, proven with the 900 numbers.

4477
02:38:57,210 --> 02:38:58,390
Yeah, but that died.

4478
02:38:58,970 --> 02:39:00,230
And why did it die?

4479
02:39:00,310 --> 02:39:00,930
The internet.

4480
02:39:02,230 --> 02:39:03,710
No, it died before the internet.

4481
02:39:03,710 --> 02:39:11,420
I think there's something to be said for

4482
02:39:11,420 --> 02:39:15,060
advertising in these vehicles in a chatty way.

4483
02:39:15,640 --> 02:39:18,540
And that is the goal of advertisers, to

4484
02:39:18,540 --> 02:39:21,200
have one per captive buyer.

4485
02:39:21,420 --> 02:39:22,400
It's too expensive.

4486
02:39:22,820 --> 02:39:26,020
It costs too much to do the messaging.

4487
02:39:26,240 --> 02:39:27,420
It's very expensive.

4488
02:39:27,880 --> 02:39:29,500
It is, right now it is, but technically

4489
02:39:29,500 --> 02:39:30,820
- We'll make it up in volume, is

4490
02:39:30,820 --> 02:39:31,540
that what you're saying?

4491
02:39:31,580 --> 02:39:33,760
Yeah, exactly, the learning curve.

4492
02:39:33,920 --> 02:39:34,760
Yeah, okay.

4493
02:39:35,440 --> 02:39:38,840
Well, their electricity bill is going up pretty

4494
02:39:38,840 --> 02:39:40,900
fast, so I don't see it.

4495
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:43,320
I still think it's a hoax, this whole

4496
02:39:43,320 --> 02:39:43,620
thing.

4497
02:39:44,380 --> 02:39:46,140
It's not a hoax.

4498
02:39:46,580 --> 02:39:48,280
I mean, it exists.

4499
02:39:48,980 --> 02:39:50,220
It's a pie in the sky, let's put

4500
02:39:50,220 --> 02:39:50,660
it that way.

4501
02:39:50,660 --> 02:39:52,380
Well, it could be, yeah.

4502
02:39:52,400 --> 02:39:53,560
Pie in the sky.

4503
02:39:53,600 --> 02:39:55,740
Pie in the sky is the better word

4504
02:39:55,740 --> 02:39:56,140
for it.

4505
02:39:56,200 --> 02:39:57,140
Pie in the sky.

4506
02:39:59,180 --> 02:40:01,400
Okay, well, let's go to something that's more

4507
02:40:01,400 --> 02:40:04,100
realistic, and it's a problematic situation, not cured

4508
02:40:04,100 --> 02:40:04,640
by AI.

4509
02:40:04,640 --> 02:40:06,560
This is what's going on in Haiti right

4510
02:40:06,560 --> 02:40:06,940
now.

4511
02:40:07,180 --> 02:40:08,320
Yeah, yeah.

4512
02:40:08,600 --> 02:40:09,460
Send them back.

4513
02:40:10,080 --> 02:40:13,040
UN officials say armed gangs have further tightened

4514
02:40:13,040 --> 02:40:15,780
their grip on Haiti, despite the efforts of

4515
02:40:15,780 --> 02:40:18,340
police and a Kenya-led international force.

4516
02:40:18,880 --> 02:40:21,940
The Assistant Secretary General of the Americas, Miroslav

4517
02:40:21,940 --> 02:40:25,100
Jentja, said Haiti's capital, Port-au-Prince, was

4518
02:40:25,100 --> 02:40:28,660
paralyzed and isolated, with the state authority on

4519
02:40:28,660 --> 02:40:30,620
the brink of total collapse.

4520
02:40:31,180 --> 02:40:33,960
We have continued to witness a sharp erosion

4521
02:40:33,960 --> 02:40:37,200
of state authority and the rule of law.

4522
02:40:38,040 --> 02:40:42,080
Brutal gang violence affects every aspect of public

4523
02:40:42,080 --> 02:40:43,220
and private life.

4524
02:40:44,040 --> 02:40:48,000
Without increased action by the international community, the

4525
02:40:48,000 --> 02:40:51,140
total collapse of state presence in the capital

4526
02:40:51,860 --> 02:40:54,240
could become a very real scenario.

4527
02:40:54,520 --> 02:40:56,320
The head of the UN Office on Drugs

4528
02:40:56,320 --> 02:40:58,520
and Crime described a surge in human rights

4529
02:40:58,520 --> 02:41:00,920
violations, including sexual violence.

4530
02:41:01,380 --> 02:41:03,040
This is kind of interesting at the very

4531
02:41:03,040 --> 02:41:05,660
same time the Trump administration is trying to

4532
02:41:05,660 --> 02:41:08,900
send all the temporary protected status Haitians back

4533
02:41:08,900 --> 02:41:09,420
to Haiti.

4534
02:41:10,500 --> 02:41:12,500
It's just coincidence that this comes.

4535
02:41:12,600 --> 02:41:14,440
I mean, as far as I know, Haiti's

4536
02:41:14,440 --> 02:41:16,300
been a mess and hasn't changed.

4537
02:41:17,000 --> 02:41:17,400
No.

4538
02:41:17,780 --> 02:41:18,820
And I think- Ever since the Clintons

4539
02:41:18,820 --> 02:41:18,920
got in there.

4540
02:41:18,920 --> 02:41:19,820
What about the Kenyans?

4541
02:41:19,900 --> 02:41:21,280
They're supposed to send a bunch of Kenyans

4542
02:41:21,280 --> 02:41:21,920
over there to do jack.

4543
02:41:22,600 --> 02:41:25,140
Yeah, yeah, what happened to the Kenyans who

4544
02:41:25,140 --> 02:41:25,620
were gonna go fix this?

4545
02:41:25,620 --> 02:41:27,400
And meanwhile, they mentioned it in their report,

4546
02:41:27,480 --> 02:41:29,040
they mentioned the Kenyans, but they're not doing

4547
02:41:29,040 --> 02:41:29,400
anything.

4548
02:41:29,540 --> 02:41:31,880
And then, of course, the Kenya situation itself,

4549
02:41:31,880 --> 02:41:33,160
and I had a letter from a Kenyan

4550
02:41:33,160 --> 02:41:37,700
producer, is out of control there because the

4551
02:41:37,700 --> 02:41:41,460
Gen Z is completely rioting and they're, because

4552
02:41:41,460 --> 02:41:42,560
of a dead blogger.

4553
02:41:42,880 --> 02:41:44,080
So that was, I don't know how many,

4554
02:41:44,360 --> 02:41:47,220
I remember years ago when all these color

4555
02:41:47,220 --> 02:41:48,980
revolutions took place and it was always because

4556
02:41:48,980 --> 02:41:49,880
of the price of bread.

4557
02:41:50,220 --> 02:41:50,400
Yeah.

4558
02:41:50,480 --> 02:41:53,040
The price of bread went up, let's go

4559
02:41:53,040 --> 02:41:53,420
nuts.

4560
02:41:53,560 --> 02:41:54,280
It started with that.

4561
02:41:54,280 --> 02:41:55,380
Now it's dead bloggers.

4562
02:41:56,460 --> 02:41:57,260
Oh, really?

4563
02:41:58,420 --> 02:42:01,400
Yeah, this happened in Kenya, the dead blogger,

4564
02:42:01,400 --> 02:42:03,080
I think there's some other dead bloggers here

4565
02:42:03,080 --> 02:42:04,000
and there around the world.

4566
02:42:04,160 --> 02:42:06,020
That's bloggers, not podcasters.

4567
02:42:06,120 --> 02:42:07,760
I was just gonna say, that's, you know,

4568
02:42:07,800 --> 02:42:09,760
if the blog, first they came for the

4569
02:42:09,760 --> 02:42:10,940
bloggers, I said nothing.

4570
02:42:11,180 --> 02:42:13,100
Then they came for the podcasters.

4571
02:42:13,220 --> 02:42:14,960
It's gonna happen, there's no doubt.

4572
02:42:15,400 --> 02:42:16,820
Hey, I'm armed in here, people.

4573
02:42:18,420 --> 02:42:19,100
Yeah, you are.

4574
02:42:21,220 --> 02:42:23,120
Havana syndrome, Havana syndrome.

4575
02:42:24,020 --> 02:42:25,060
This was- Back in the news.

4576
02:42:25,640 --> 02:42:26,980
Yes, back in the news.

4577
02:42:27,480 --> 02:42:32,400
I got, this is from a podcast and

4578
02:42:32,400 --> 02:42:35,240
the podcast is called the Bulwark Podcast and

4579
02:42:35,240 --> 02:42:37,920
the Bulwark Podcast had Michael Weiss on.

4580
02:42:38,500 --> 02:42:41,800
He is a journalist, he's one of these,

4581
02:42:41,920 --> 02:42:44,660
New York Times bestseller of ISIS, Inside the

4582
02:42:44,660 --> 02:42:45,820
Army of Terror, actually.

4583
02:42:46,900 --> 02:42:48,840
So he's been around, doesn't seem like a,

4584
02:42:48,840 --> 02:42:50,340
seems like a rather young guy, but he

4585
02:42:50,340 --> 02:42:52,280
was on this podcast to talk about Havana

4586
02:42:52,280 --> 02:42:55,420
syndrome and we learned some interesting things on

4587
02:42:55,420 --> 02:42:55,980
a podcast.

4588
02:42:55,980 --> 02:42:59,000
As the Biden administration was turning off the

4589
02:42:59,000 --> 02:43:01,120
lights in the White House, they had a

4590
02:43:01,120 --> 02:43:04,400
meeting at the NSC at which invited five,

4591
02:43:05,200 --> 02:43:07,820
very well-known within the community, the intelligence

4592
02:43:07,820 --> 02:43:11,880
community, victims of AHI, including Mark Palmeropoulos, a

4593
02:43:11,880 --> 02:43:13,800
guy called, who's in the media as Adam

4594
02:43:13,800 --> 02:43:15,080
or known as Patient Zero.

4595
02:43:15,240 --> 02:43:16,500
He was one of the first victims hit

4596
02:43:16,500 --> 02:43:17,700
in Havana, Cuba.

4597
02:43:18,240 --> 02:43:20,920
And the NSC meeting, they were brought into

4598
02:43:20,920 --> 02:43:24,000
the Situation Room and told, you were right.

4599
02:43:24,410 --> 02:43:27,140
You were right, meaning you were hit by

4600
02:43:27,140 --> 02:43:28,300
a directed energy device.

4601
02:43:28,600 --> 02:43:32,440
This is not some sociogenic or psychosomatic phenomenon.

4602
02:43:33,000 --> 02:43:36,320
There is evidence that has now come through

4603
02:43:36,320 --> 02:43:39,840
to the IC, including new collection, which substantiates

4604
02:43:39,840 --> 02:43:43,240
the fact that possibly a foreign state actor,

4605
02:43:43,760 --> 02:43:46,000
no points for guessing which one, is responsible

4606
02:43:46,000 --> 02:43:48,500
for doing this to American servicemen and women

4607
02:43:48,500 --> 02:43:48,880
abroad.

4608
02:43:49,540 --> 02:43:51,260
And more to the point, some of the

4609
02:43:51,260 --> 02:43:53,240
members of the National Security Council at that

4610
02:43:53,240 --> 02:43:55,720
meeting drafted an op-ed for the Washington

4611
02:43:55,720 --> 02:43:59,440
Post, which was cleared and ready to go.

4612
02:43:59,860 --> 02:44:01,780
The title of it was, We Believe Them,

4613
02:44:02,280 --> 02:44:03,580
them referring to the victims.

4614
02:44:03,820 --> 02:44:05,840
And at the last minute, Jake Sullivan spiked

4615
02:44:05,840 --> 02:44:07,260
that op-ed from being published.

4616
02:44:08,400 --> 02:44:13,240
So very interesting little nugget here that he

4617
02:44:13,240 --> 02:44:14,740
spiked the op-ed.

4618
02:44:14,860 --> 02:44:16,920
I wonder if the Washington Post knew about

4619
02:44:16,920 --> 02:44:17,520
the op-ed.

4620
02:44:17,580 --> 02:44:18,760
I presume they did.

4621
02:44:19,300 --> 02:44:22,060
And they just went, okay, Jake Sullivan, okay.

4622
02:44:23,400 --> 02:44:26,160
And in the second clip, Michael Weiss tells

4623
02:44:26,160 --> 02:44:27,820
us who this was.

4624
02:44:28,140 --> 02:44:31,180
And as he said, no surprise, it's gotta

4625
02:44:31,180 --> 02:44:31,820
be the Russians.

4626
02:44:32,180 --> 02:44:36,480
We basically attributed GRU Unit 29155, which is

4627
02:44:36,480 --> 02:44:39,940
sort of the Russians' assassination and sabotage squad.

4628
02:44:40,260 --> 02:44:43,540
They were responsible for poisoning Sergei and Yulia

4629
02:44:43,540 --> 02:44:46,980
Skripal, blowing up ammunition and weapons depots across

4630
02:44:46,980 --> 02:44:48,600
Europe as far back as 2011.

4631
02:44:49,160 --> 02:44:50,800
And we just exposed them as having had

4632
02:44:50,800 --> 02:44:53,340
a hacker department that nobody knew about.

4633
02:44:53,840 --> 02:44:57,980
So 29155, their remit is explicitly kinetic.

4634
02:44:58,180 --> 02:44:59,340
They're not doing pure espionage.

4635
02:44:59,460 --> 02:45:01,120
So if they come to town, they might

4636
02:45:01,120 --> 02:45:02,880
be there to do reconnaissance and they might

4637
02:45:02,880 --> 02:45:04,360
be there to kind of get a lay

4638
02:45:04,360 --> 02:45:06,180
of the land, but that means something is

4639
02:45:06,180 --> 02:45:07,140
gonna go bump in the night.

4640
02:45:07,260 --> 02:45:10,000
So that itself was very indicative to us

4641
02:45:10,000 --> 02:45:12,300
that if they're in the places where these

4642
02:45:12,300 --> 02:45:14,220
victims were hit, and we managed to find

4643
02:45:14,220 --> 02:45:17,020
two victims who could positively identify known members

4644
02:45:17,020 --> 02:45:19,520
of Unit 29155 in the vicinity where they

4645
02:45:19,520 --> 02:45:19,760
were.

4646
02:45:19,760 --> 02:45:22,000
One was Frankfurt, Germany in 2014.

4647
02:45:22,200 --> 02:45:24,640
The other was Tbilisi, Georgia just a couple

4648
02:45:24,640 --> 02:45:25,240
of years ago.

4649
02:45:25,360 --> 02:45:27,560
That indicates that there's some there there.

4650
02:45:27,740 --> 02:45:29,860
So put a pin in this because I

4651
02:45:29,860 --> 02:45:31,980
assess with medium confidence that there is gonna

4652
02:45:31,980 --> 02:45:34,220
be more coming to light, both at the

4653
02:45:34,220 --> 02:45:36,620
governmental level, but also in the media level

4654
02:45:36,620 --> 02:45:37,660
in the near future.

4655
02:45:38,300 --> 02:45:39,800
I think there was- First of all,

4656
02:45:39,840 --> 02:45:42,600
I wanna say that that guy who's a

4657
02:45:42,600 --> 02:45:44,520
writer, you say, who wrote a book on

4658
02:45:44,520 --> 02:45:44,880
ISIS.

4659
02:45:45,180 --> 02:45:47,020
He calls himself a journalist.

4660
02:45:48,320 --> 02:45:49,800
He is a spook.

4661
02:45:50,900 --> 02:45:54,200
And I only say that because of his

4662
02:45:54,200 --> 02:45:55,820
cadence and the way he speaks.

4663
02:45:56,280 --> 02:46:00,080
He has a very, you hear it in

4664
02:46:00,080 --> 02:46:01,980
his cadence and the way he speaks, he

4665
02:46:01,980 --> 02:46:03,200
sounds like a spook.

4666
02:46:03,560 --> 02:46:05,900
The people we know are spooks that talk.

4667
02:46:06,280 --> 02:46:08,200
They have a very, it's like a milieu

4668
02:46:08,200 --> 02:46:08,900
thing again.

4669
02:46:09,180 --> 02:46:11,520
I know I harp on it, but it

4670
02:46:11,520 --> 02:46:12,480
sounds like it to me.

4671
02:46:12,580 --> 02:46:14,000
It doesn't sound like any journalist.

4672
02:46:14,260 --> 02:46:17,000
Journalists have a certain mumbling way of talking.

4673
02:46:17,000 --> 02:46:19,760
Of kind of presenting themselves.

4674
02:46:20,060 --> 02:46:22,720
I'm closer to that because I do this

4675
02:46:22,720 --> 02:46:26,220
kind of, my pacing is not like a

4676
02:46:26,220 --> 02:46:26,640
spook's.

4677
02:46:28,720 --> 02:46:30,540
And that's not a journalist.

4678
02:46:31,460 --> 02:46:33,300
He has, I'm looking at his Wiki page

4679
02:46:33,300 --> 02:46:35,620
and I'm going to immediately back you up.

4680
02:46:36,300 --> 02:46:39,880
There is no personal history on his Wiki

4681
02:46:39,880 --> 02:46:40,380
page.

4682
02:46:42,540 --> 02:46:47,460
In 2013, he launched The Interpreter, an online

4683
02:46:47,460 --> 02:46:51,440
magazine that trans, so no money, translates and

4684
02:46:51,440 --> 02:46:52,960
analyzes Russian media.

4685
02:46:54,360 --> 02:46:57,480
He's been contributing to CNN since 2015.

4686
02:46:59,380 --> 02:47:01,500
Currently serves as the editor-in-chief of

4687
02:47:01,500 --> 02:47:04,220
the English edition of The Insider, specializes in

4688
02:47:04,220 --> 02:47:05,820
Russia-related investigations.

4689
02:47:08,480 --> 02:47:11,920
There's no, no schooling history.

4690
02:47:13,200 --> 02:47:15,760
He's been in ThinkTanks, co-chair of the

4691
02:47:15,760 --> 02:47:16,940
Russia Study Center.

4692
02:47:17,140 --> 02:47:17,640
There you go.

4693
02:47:18,940 --> 02:47:21,800
Non-resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council.

4694
02:47:22,160 --> 02:47:22,480
Okay.

4695
02:47:23,860 --> 02:47:25,640
Yeah, you're probably right.

4696
02:47:27,360 --> 02:47:28,340
That's interesting.

4697
02:47:29,960 --> 02:47:32,100
I can remember a time on this very

4698
02:47:32,100 --> 02:47:34,840
podcast, maybe 13, 14 years ago, if I

4699
02:47:34,840 --> 02:47:35,800
even brought up director of the Atlantic Council,

4700
02:47:35,800 --> 02:47:36,000
I would have been like, if I had

4701
02:47:36,000 --> 02:47:37,440
a directed energy weapon, you would make me

4702
02:47:37,440 --> 02:47:38,320
play the theremin.

4703
02:47:40,660 --> 02:47:42,860
So I- Well, the Havana Syndrome thing

4704
02:47:42,860 --> 02:47:46,140
is some sort of thing, some sort of

4705
02:47:46,140 --> 02:47:46,780
weapon.

4706
02:47:47,240 --> 02:47:48,840
Yes, directed energy weapon.

4707
02:47:49,220 --> 02:47:51,140
Yeah, but it could be a radio frequency

4708
02:47:51,140 --> 02:47:51,600
weapon.

4709
02:47:51,700 --> 02:47:53,400
It could be a lot of, but if

4710
02:47:53,400 --> 02:47:55,040
you want to call it directed energy, fine.

4711
02:47:55,140 --> 02:47:56,820
But directed energy to me is always some

4712
02:47:56,820 --> 02:47:59,040
sort of like a pulsar or something that's

4713
02:47:59,040 --> 02:47:59,140
very destructive.

4714
02:47:59,140 --> 02:48:00,580
Well, they have that for drones.

4715
02:48:01,080 --> 02:48:03,000
They have that for drones that burns them

4716
02:48:03,000 --> 02:48:03,880
up right in flight.

4717
02:48:04,240 --> 02:48:05,860
All kinds of do's.

4718
02:48:05,960 --> 02:48:07,080
There's lots of do's.

4719
02:48:07,780 --> 02:48:08,580
Do's, baby.

4720
02:48:09,360 --> 02:48:10,420
Plenty of do's.

4721
02:48:10,600 --> 02:48:13,480
Whatever the case is, this guy seems to

4722
02:48:13,480 --> 02:48:15,620
be promoting, we don't know it's Russia.

4723
02:48:15,760 --> 02:48:16,480
Maybe it is Russia.

4724
02:48:16,560 --> 02:48:17,220
Maybe it's China.

4725
02:48:17,600 --> 02:48:19,380
I mean, the likelihood it could be this

4726
02:48:19,380 --> 02:48:21,680
GRU group because they sound like a bunch

4727
02:48:21,680 --> 02:48:23,280
of bad, bad guys.

4728
02:48:24,080 --> 02:48:25,280
And sure.

4729
02:48:25,720 --> 02:48:28,920
If you listen to President Trump, I like

4730
02:48:28,920 --> 02:48:30,420
the idea of it being China.

4731
02:48:31,140 --> 02:48:32,580
Did you see him with the money, honey?

4732
02:48:34,180 --> 02:48:35,460
I saw parts of it.

4733
02:48:35,480 --> 02:48:36,380
I didn't watch the whole thing.

4734
02:48:36,560 --> 02:48:37,780
This is just a short clip.

4735
02:48:37,920 --> 02:48:39,400
Because, you know, of course, we have the

4736
02:48:39,400 --> 02:48:41,800
trade deal, which President Trump said and other

4737
02:48:41,800 --> 02:48:43,260
cool things we're doing with him.

4738
02:48:43,360 --> 02:48:43,800
Like what?

4739
02:48:44,420 --> 02:48:46,480
Which, of course, no, I think he let

4740
02:48:46,480 --> 02:48:47,460
the cat out of the bag.

4741
02:48:47,600 --> 02:48:48,160
Something's going.

4742
02:48:48,380 --> 02:48:51,540
And I hear that she President Xi is

4743
02:48:51,540 --> 02:48:53,980
having issues with the party back home.

4744
02:48:54,480 --> 02:48:56,240
I've only really got one source.

4745
02:48:56,760 --> 02:48:58,960
This could be a phony gossip.

4746
02:48:59,040 --> 02:49:00,580
Could totally be phony gossip.

4747
02:49:00,720 --> 02:49:01,040
I don't know.

4748
02:49:01,100 --> 02:49:03,380
But here's the here's the president on China

4749
02:49:03,380 --> 02:49:04,820
trade and other things.

4750
02:49:05,020 --> 02:49:06,960
But they are paying substantial tariffs.

4751
02:49:07,020 --> 02:49:09,060
I noticed that because it seems like you

4752
02:49:09,060 --> 02:49:10,840
go so far with China, but you don't

4753
02:49:10,840 --> 02:49:12,720
sort of use the leverage that you can

4754
02:49:12,720 --> 02:49:13,020
use.

4755
02:49:13,160 --> 02:49:14,700
I mean, look, if I ever had to

4756
02:49:14,700 --> 02:49:15,660
use it, I'd use it.

4757
02:49:15,860 --> 02:49:17,720
But when there's no reason to use it,

4758
02:49:17,740 --> 02:49:18,420
that's good, too.

4759
02:49:18,560 --> 02:49:20,700
Well, we did just arrest three or four

4760
02:49:20,700 --> 02:49:22,720
Chinese nationals who tried to bring a pathogen

4761
02:49:22,720 --> 02:49:24,960
into the country that gets people sick and

4762
02:49:24,960 --> 02:49:26,260
destroys food supply.

4763
02:49:26,760 --> 02:49:27,660
We've got hacking.

4764
02:49:27,860 --> 02:49:29,160
You don't know where that came from, though.

4765
02:49:29,220 --> 02:49:30,580
I mean, did that come from the country

4766
02:49:30,580 --> 02:49:32,480
or is that three wackos that happened to

4767
02:49:32,480 --> 02:49:33,080
carry something?

4768
02:49:33,240 --> 02:49:33,960
You know, you just don't.

4769
02:49:34,000 --> 02:49:35,820
Well, there was one that he signed that

4770
02:49:35,820 --> 02:49:38,640
he would be one of them signed a

4771
02:49:38,640 --> 02:49:42,080
paper saying that he would value Mao Zedong's

4772
02:49:42,080 --> 02:49:42,860
value system.

4773
02:49:43,420 --> 02:49:44,440
So there was that.

4774
02:49:44,520 --> 02:49:46,060
And then they hacked it and they hack

4775
02:49:46,060 --> 02:49:47,100
into our telecom system.

4776
02:49:47,200 --> 02:49:50,260
They've been stealing intellectual property, fentanyl, covid.

4777
02:49:50,440 --> 02:49:51,780
I mean, you know, all of this stuff.

4778
02:49:51,820 --> 02:49:53,740
So how do you negotiate with, obviously, a

4779
02:49:53,740 --> 02:49:54,320
bad actor?

4780
02:49:56,020 --> 02:49:57,540
You don't think we do that to them.

4781
02:49:58,160 --> 02:49:58,820
We do.

4782
02:49:59,740 --> 02:50:01,260
So we do a lot of things the

4783
02:50:01,260 --> 02:50:02,080
way the world works.

4784
02:50:02,180 --> 02:50:03,380
It's the way the world works.

4785
02:50:03,540 --> 02:50:04,640
That's a nasty world.

4786
02:50:04,880 --> 02:50:06,400
And then you just do a trade deal.

4787
02:50:06,580 --> 02:50:07,080
We do.

4788
02:50:07,240 --> 02:50:08,740
Well, we made a lot of money with

4789
02:50:08,740 --> 02:50:09,420
this trade deal.

4790
02:50:09,520 --> 02:50:10,540
You know, I do a trade deal.

4791
02:50:10,600 --> 02:50:11,800
If it works, we made a lot of

4792
02:50:11,800 --> 02:50:12,700
money with the trade deal.

4793
02:50:12,960 --> 02:50:14,580
We do all kinds of things to them.

4794
02:50:14,680 --> 02:50:16,880
So he's in the middle of a negotiation.

4795
02:50:17,040 --> 02:50:18,440
He can't have these questions.

4796
02:50:18,440 --> 02:50:19,840
Obviously not.

4797
02:50:20,880 --> 02:50:22,260
He's not going to discuss it.

4798
02:50:22,320 --> 02:50:24,020
By the way, thinking it was China instead

4799
02:50:24,020 --> 02:50:26,360
of Russia would make more sense because it

4800
02:50:26,360 --> 02:50:27,220
began in Cuba.

4801
02:50:27,440 --> 02:50:29,540
The Russians have had very little to do

4802
02:50:29,540 --> 02:50:31,960
with Cuba of late, but the Chinese have

4803
02:50:31,960 --> 02:50:33,600
been trying to put a base in Cuba.

4804
02:50:33,900 --> 02:50:36,200
So the likelihood it was China more than

4805
02:50:36,200 --> 02:50:37,540
Russia makes sense to me.

4806
02:50:37,740 --> 02:50:39,580
It seems more like a Chinese thing to

4807
02:50:39,580 --> 02:50:39,920
do.

4808
02:50:40,680 --> 02:50:43,780
For some reason, I can't quantify that, but

4809
02:50:43,780 --> 02:50:45,880
it just seems like it's so, you know,

4810
02:50:45,880 --> 02:50:47,160
the Russians, the Russians, the Russians.

4811
02:50:47,160 --> 02:50:50,100
I remember going to Russia in 1988, 88,

4812
02:50:50,180 --> 02:50:50,580
89.

4813
02:50:51,280 --> 02:50:53,180
Yeah, about the time I was there.

4814
02:50:53,320 --> 02:50:56,140
And I remember, you know, KGB, KGB.

4815
02:50:56,360 --> 02:50:58,100
And we came in for the Moscow Music

4816
02:50:58,100 --> 02:51:02,520
Peace Festival with the big Cinevideo 12 camera

4817
02:51:02,520 --> 02:51:03,880
trucks from the Netherlands.

4818
02:51:04,600 --> 02:51:06,280
And, you know, we had, I had a

4819
02:51:06,280 --> 02:51:09,280
direct dial tone of 516 area code from

4820
02:51:09,280 --> 02:51:12,420
the Westwood One truck, you know, and at

4821
02:51:12,420 --> 02:51:14,240
the time in the hotel where they turned

4822
02:51:14,240 --> 02:51:16,260
on the hot water for us in that

4823
02:51:16,260 --> 02:51:19,060
portion of the city, you had to reserve

4824
02:51:19,060 --> 02:51:21,520
your phone call to the states 48 hours

4825
02:51:21,520 --> 02:51:23,920
in advance and bribe the lady with toilet

4826
02:51:23,920 --> 02:51:25,460
rolls and tuna fish cans.

4827
02:51:25,980 --> 02:51:28,440
Yeah, every every floor had a woman.

4828
02:51:28,580 --> 02:51:29,000
Yes.

4829
02:51:29,100 --> 02:51:32,040
Monitor each floor of the hotels, whatever hotel

4830
02:51:32,040 --> 02:51:33,100
you were in, they would have a woman

4831
02:51:33,100 --> 02:51:35,220
and she always had to give her something.

4832
02:51:35,600 --> 02:51:37,180
And I was told in advance to give

4833
02:51:37,180 --> 02:51:40,240
them small, like those little toys.

4834
02:51:41,920 --> 02:51:42,960
Matchbook cards.

4835
02:51:42,960 --> 02:51:45,660
Matchbook toys, because they all had kids and

4836
02:51:45,660 --> 02:51:47,320
the kids love these toys.

4837
02:51:47,420 --> 02:51:49,620
And they would just turn, they would, there

4838
02:51:49,620 --> 02:51:51,340
would you give them a little toy and

4839
02:51:51,340 --> 02:51:52,660
they would brighten up.

4840
02:51:52,800 --> 02:51:53,640
It was amazing.

4841
02:51:53,860 --> 02:51:54,340
They're dour.

4842
02:51:54,580 --> 02:51:55,040
And then, oh.

4843
02:51:55,480 --> 02:51:58,800
And cassettes, cassette tapes with music.

4844
02:51:59,020 --> 02:52:00,200
Yeah, I had all of that.

4845
02:52:00,380 --> 02:52:02,740
And I literally had toilet paper rolls, which,

4846
02:52:02,940 --> 02:52:04,260
by the way, I use a lot myself.

4847
02:52:04,780 --> 02:52:07,140
And we slept on mattresses stuffed with straw.

4848
02:52:07,560 --> 02:52:09,540
But the point is, so then we had

4849
02:52:09,540 --> 02:52:09,980
all this.

4850
02:52:10,040 --> 02:52:11,280
And then before it went up to the

4851
02:52:11,280 --> 02:52:13,740
satellite, before it went to our satellite truck,

4852
02:52:13,820 --> 02:52:17,340
which is all Western European stuff, it had

4853
02:52:17,340 --> 02:52:19,440
to go through the censorship truck of the

4854
02:52:19,440 --> 02:52:19,920
KGB.

4855
02:52:20,460 --> 02:52:21,340
I kid you not.

4856
02:52:21,740 --> 02:52:23,640
It was like it wasn't a Volkswagen, but

4857
02:52:23,640 --> 02:52:26,020
like a Lada bus, a gray bus with

4858
02:52:26,020 --> 02:52:26,520
curtains.

4859
02:52:27,280 --> 02:52:31,800
And it was literally like gray, you know,

4860
02:52:31,860 --> 02:52:35,080
gray racks of nothingness in there.

4861
02:52:35,320 --> 02:52:36,440
It was just stupid.

4862
02:52:36,560 --> 02:52:38,020
They had no technology.

4863
02:52:38,760 --> 02:52:39,920
And that was supposed to be all of

4864
02:52:39,920 --> 02:52:40,460
the KGB.

4865
02:52:40,680 --> 02:52:41,340
Oh, they can do everything.

4866
02:52:41,340 --> 02:52:42,580
It looked like nothing.

4867
02:52:43,300 --> 02:52:46,900
I was very underwhelmed by the danger that

4868
02:52:46,900 --> 02:52:48,160
I felt, that I was supposed to feel

4869
02:52:48,160 --> 02:52:48,700
at the time.

4870
02:52:49,560 --> 02:52:51,540
So, you know, they say a lot about

4871
02:52:51,540 --> 02:52:52,940
Russia, but I'm not so sure.

4872
02:52:53,480 --> 02:52:55,540
The Chinese, yeah, I bet you they do

4873
02:52:55,540 --> 02:52:56,700
have all this technology.

4874
02:52:57,260 --> 02:52:59,220
Yeah, they're super techie.

4875
02:52:59,580 --> 02:53:00,380
Very techie.

4876
02:53:01,300 --> 02:53:02,360
And they steal it from us.

4877
02:53:02,400 --> 02:53:03,980
I'm sure we already developed it and they

4878
02:53:03,980 --> 02:53:04,460
took it from us.

4879
02:53:04,460 --> 02:53:05,860
Yes, probably our technology.

4880
02:53:06,080 --> 02:53:07,280
Yes, probably.

4881
02:53:08,400 --> 02:53:08,800
Ironically.

4882
02:53:09,040 --> 02:53:09,280
Yeah.

4883
02:53:09,920 --> 02:53:11,420
All right.

4884
02:53:11,500 --> 02:53:12,260
Well, they did the deal.

4885
02:53:12,380 --> 02:53:14,640
I got one clip here that Vietnam deals

4886
02:53:14,640 --> 02:53:15,080
done.

4887
02:53:15,340 --> 02:53:17,160
So they got that big deal.

4888
02:53:17,700 --> 02:53:19,340
President Trump announced today that the U.S.

4889
02:53:19,360 --> 02:53:21,560
has struck a trade deal with Vietnam following

4890
02:53:21,560 --> 02:53:22,780
months of negotiations.

4891
02:53:23,640 --> 02:53:25,540
Trump said goods from Vietnam would face a

4892
02:53:25,540 --> 02:53:26,720
20 percent tariff.

4893
02:53:26,860 --> 02:53:29,300
He said any trans shipments from third countries

4894
02:53:29,300 --> 02:53:31,060
would face a 40 percent levy.

4895
02:53:31,220 --> 02:53:33,700
The rate is lower than an initial 46

4896
02:53:33,700 --> 02:53:35,460
percent levy Trump announced in April.

4897
02:53:36,040 --> 02:53:37,960
Vietnam would also provide the U.S. with

4898
02:53:37,960 --> 02:53:39,140
more market access.

4899
02:53:39,140 --> 02:53:41,340
With U.S. exports to the country facing

4900
02:53:41,340 --> 02:53:43,960
no tariffs, the White House and the Vietnamese

4901
02:53:43,960 --> 02:53:46,600
trade ministry did not immediately comment.

4902
02:53:47,260 --> 02:53:47,520
Huh.

4903
02:53:48,520 --> 02:53:51,240
Well, it seems like all these tariff deals

4904
02:53:51,240 --> 02:53:52,560
are just kind of working out.

4905
02:53:52,820 --> 02:53:54,100
And how's Horowitz?

4906
02:53:54,200 --> 02:53:55,740
Is he still freaking out about it?

4907
02:53:55,840 --> 02:53:57,600
It seems like the stock market's up.

4908
02:53:57,760 --> 02:53:58,400
He's a happy camper.

4909
02:53:58,840 --> 02:53:58,940
Exactly.

4910
02:53:59,340 --> 02:54:03,400
Speaking of deals and manga, manga time.

4911
02:54:03,580 --> 02:54:04,020
Oh, yeah.

4912
02:54:04,100 --> 02:54:07,240
We have been the forerunner of manga, which

4913
02:54:07,240 --> 02:54:08,940
is make African news great again.

4914
02:54:09,140 --> 02:54:10,880
There's manga news.

4915
02:54:11,240 --> 02:54:13,700
U.S. President Donald Trump will host five

4916
02:54:13,700 --> 02:54:16,560
African leaders in Washington, D.C. next week.

4917
02:54:17,020 --> 02:54:19,480
A White House official confirmed on Wednesday that

4918
02:54:19,480 --> 02:54:21,700
the U.S. president would hold the meeting

4919
02:54:21,700 --> 02:54:23,620
from 9th to 11th of July.

4920
02:54:24,060 --> 02:54:26,460
The encounter is likely to revolve around regional

4921
02:54:26,460 --> 02:54:29,280
security issues, although the core of the discussions

4922
02:54:29,280 --> 02:54:32,880
will focus on trade relations and commercial opportunities

4923
02:54:32,880 --> 02:54:35,320
that the U.S. president wants to increase.

4924
02:54:35,860 --> 02:54:37,360
Trump is set to meet the heads of

4925
02:54:37,360 --> 02:54:41,380
state of Gabon, Guinea-Bissau, Liberia, Mauritania and

4926
02:54:41,380 --> 02:54:41,800
Senegal.

4927
02:54:42,080 --> 02:54:44,340
The meeting comes as U.S.-Africa encounters are

4928
02:54:44,340 --> 02:54:45,020
multiplying.

4929
02:54:45,580 --> 02:54:47,740
After tense one-on-one meeting between Trump

4930
02:54:47,740 --> 02:54:50,320
and South African President Sir Ramaphosa in May,

4931
02:54:50,800 --> 02:54:53,060
the White House brokered a peace deal between

4932
02:54:53,060 --> 02:54:55,080
the DRC and Rwanda last month.

4933
02:54:55,420 --> 02:54:58,060
Plans for wider U.S.-Africa summit have also

4934
02:54:58,060 --> 02:55:00,740
been announced for September, although nothing has been

4935
02:55:00,740 --> 02:55:02,660
confirmed so far from either side.

4936
02:55:02,660 --> 02:55:05,540
It's very obvious what's happening in Africa.

4937
02:55:05,800 --> 02:55:06,900
We're making our moves.

4938
02:55:07,560 --> 02:55:10,980
We are blocking mainly China and of course

4939
02:55:10,980 --> 02:55:12,960
these countries, these five countries.

4940
02:55:13,160 --> 02:55:14,240
What do they have in common?

4941
02:55:14,680 --> 02:55:16,260
They are not BRICS nations.

4942
02:55:17,000 --> 02:55:19,440
BRICS nations in Africa and in the region,

4943
02:55:19,780 --> 02:55:20,820
Sudan, sorry.

4944
02:55:21,060 --> 02:55:24,480
In a statement published on June 27th, Washington

4945
02:55:24,480 --> 02:55:27,420
announced its sanctions against the Sudanese authorities have

4946
02:55:27,420 --> 02:55:28,200
taken effect.

4947
02:55:28,660 --> 02:55:30,720
According to the notice published in the Federal

4948
02:55:30,720 --> 02:55:33,540
Registry, the United States plans to stop all

4949
02:55:33,540 --> 02:55:36,560
arms sales to the Sudanese government, reduce access

4950
02:55:36,560 --> 02:55:39,180
to U.S. government loans, halt the export

4951
02:55:39,180 --> 02:55:41,920
of advanced technologies to Sudan, and limit all

4952
02:55:41,920 --> 02:55:44,120
U.S. exports to Sudan with the exception

4953
02:55:44,120 --> 02:55:47,340
of agricultural products and emergency humanitarian aid.

4954
02:55:47,620 --> 02:55:50,260
According to some analysts, the impact of these

4955
02:55:50,260 --> 02:55:52,180
sanctions on the war-torn country will be

4956
02:55:52,180 --> 02:55:52,580
limited.

4957
02:55:52,940 --> 02:55:55,220
The Sudanese Central Bank, for example, claims that

4958
02:55:55,220 --> 02:55:57,940
there are no direct U.S. exports to

4959
02:55:57,940 --> 02:55:58,300
Sudan.

4960
02:55:58,300 --> 02:56:00,960
The second aspect of the sanctions is the

4961
02:56:00,960 --> 02:56:03,460
impact on the U.S. administration's credit lines

4962
02:56:03,460 --> 02:56:04,860
and what it pays to Sudan.

4963
02:56:05,320 --> 02:56:07,460
Currently, the U.S. administration doesn't pay anything

4964
02:56:07,460 --> 02:56:10,500
to Sudan, whether it's the organizations or the

4965
02:56:10,500 --> 02:56:11,100
institutions.

4966
02:56:11,580 --> 02:56:13,620
Last May, the U.S. State Department accused

4967
02:56:13,620 --> 02:56:16,080
the authorities of using chemical weapons against the

4968
02:56:16,080 --> 02:56:19,020
paramilitary Rapid Support Forces in 2024.

4969
02:56:19,560 --> 02:56:22,120
The Sudanese government, led by General al-Burhan,

4970
02:56:22,420 --> 02:56:25,960
denies these accusations and denounces political blackmail.

4971
02:56:25,960 --> 02:56:29,180
Since April 2023, a bloody war has pitted

4972
02:56:29,180 --> 02:56:32,360
the general against the paramilitary forces led by

4973
02:56:32,360 --> 02:56:35,520
Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo, causing the deaths of thousands

4974
02:56:35,520 --> 02:56:38,360
of people and the displacement of 15 million

4975
02:56:38,360 --> 02:56:38,900
others.

4976
02:56:39,400 --> 02:56:41,240
U.S. sanctions have also been handed out

4977
02:56:41,240 --> 02:56:43,520
in the past against the RSF leader, whose

4978
02:56:43,520 --> 02:56:46,820
paramilitary troops have been accused of committing genocide.

4979
02:56:47,440 --> 02:56:48,460
There you go.

4980
02:56:49,040 --> 02:56:50,840
NATO versus BRICS, it's on.

4981
02:56:51,060 --> 02:56:52,220
I wonder what they're going to do with

4982
02:56:52,220 --> 02:56:52,760
Egypt.

4983
02:56:53,260 --> 02:56:55,260
You know, Egypt jumped into that BRICS thing.

4984
02:56:55,260 --> 02:56:57,320
That's going to be a problem for Egypt.

4985
02:56:58,800 --> 02:57:00,000
Should be eventually.

4986
02:57:00,520 --> 02:57:00,700
Yeah.

4987
02:57:01,220 --> 02:57:02,600
I just find the whole thing that, you

4988
02:57:02,600 --> 02:57:06,340
know, the empire is kicking some ass.

4989
02:57:07,380 --> 02:57:09,060
Yes, very much so.

4990
02:57:09,380 --> 02:57:11,640
There was an interesting analysis on one of

4991
02:57:11,640 --> 02:57:15,880
the public stations, which was about that Rwanda

4992
02:57:15,880 --> 02:57:18,740
DRC deal that Trump had two guys in

4993
02:57:18,740 --> 02:57:19,140
the office.

4994
02:57:19,260 --> 02:57:20,900
They signed off on it, even though in

4995
02:57:20,900 --> 02:57:21,860
CNN, I don't know.

4996
02:57:21,880 --> 02:57:22,720
I don't think it was real.

4997
02:57:23,020 --> 02:57:23,260
Yeah.

4998
02:57:25,800 --> 02:57:28,980
Biden's administration was offered the possibility of doing

4999
02:57:28,980 --> 02:57:30,420
this, and they just said, no, we don't

5000
02:57:30,420 --> 02:57:30,680
care.

5001
02:57:31,160 --> 02:57:32,560
No, because they're run by China.

5002
02:57:33,960 --> 02:57:35,400
Yeah, they were run by China.

5003
02:57:35,500 --> 02:57:37,220
I mean, didn't the Bidens have some pretty

5004
02:57:37,220 --> 02:57:38,460
deep ties to China?

5005
02:57:38,460 --> 02:57:40,540
It looks like it looks more and more

5006
02:57:40,540 --> 02:57:42,780
like China was running the country while Biden

5007
02:57:42,780 --> 02:57:43,560
was in office.

5008
02:57:43,740 --> 02:57:44,080
Maybe.

5009
02:57:44,880 --> 02:57:46,860
Five minute warning, John, last clip for you.

5010
02:57:47,760 --> 02:57:48,660
Well, let's see.

5011
02:57:48,720 --> 02:57:50,420
I've got a couple of clips, but I'll

5012
02:57:50,420 --> 02:57:51,700
look for a good one here.

5013
02:57:51,820 --> 02:57:52,500
How about this?

5014
02:57:53,260 --> 02:57:54,680
This is something I can complain about.

5015
02:57:55,260 --> 02:57:59,980
This is the Wisconsin abortion, and I call

5016
02:57:59,980 --> 02:58:02,200
it Wisconsin abortion idiots.

5017
02:58:02,860 --> 02:58:03,840
NPR clip.

5018
02:58:03,980 --> 02:58:05,000
I have a comment.

5019
02:58:05,540 --> 02:58:08,960
Abortion remains legal in Wisconsin after the state

5020
02:58:08,960 --> 02:58:11,280
Supreme Court released a decision today.

5021
02:58:11,720 --> 02:58:14,420
Sarah Lear from Wisconsin Public Radio reports.

5022
02:58:14,860 --> 02:58:16,040
After the overturn of Roe v.

5023
02:58:16,280 --> 02:58:20,100
Wade in 2022, providers across Wisconsin stopped providing

5024
02:58:20,100 --> 02:58:20,820
abortions.

5025
02:58:20,820 --> 02:58:23,840
They were worried about being prosecuted under a

5026
02:58:23,840 --> 02:58:27,060
19th century state law, which bans all abortions

5027
02:58:27,060 --> 02:58:29,200
unless they're done to save a pregnant woman's

5028
02:58:29,200 --> 02:58:29,600
life.

5029
02:58:30,080 --> 02:58:32,760
That prompted Wisconsin's Democratic attorney general to sue

5030
02:58:32,760 --> 02:58:35,000
to try and block enforcement of that law.

5031
02:58:35,560 --> 02:58:37,840
In late 2023, a county judge ruled the

5032
02:58:37,840 --> 02:58:41,100
law in question does not actually ban abortions,

5033
02:58:41,620 --> 02:58:43,620
prompting clinics in the state to once again

5034
02:58:43,620 --> 02:58:44,480
offer the procedure.

5035
02:58:44,860 --> 02:58:47,020
Now the state's highest court has cemented the

5036
02:58:47,020 --> 02:58:48,560
effects of that lower court decision.

5037
02:58:49,140 --> 02:58:51,740
Justices said the pre-Civil War law could

5038
02:58:51,740 --> 02:58:54,660
not remain in effect because it was superseded

5039
02:58:54,660 --> 02:58:56,500
by abortion laws passed later.

5040
02:58:57,140 --> 02:58:57,980
All right, John C.

5041
02:58:58,040 --> 02:58:59,160
Dvorak, your commentary.

5042
02:58:59,340 --> 02:59:00,800
This is a Democrat.

5043
02:59:01,220 --> 02:59:03,040
What was the fuss about?

5044
02:59:03,580 --> 02:59:05,540
All they had to do was just go

5045
02:59:05,540 --> 02:59:07,340
to the legislature and say, let's just pass

5046
02:59:07,340 --> 02:59:10,020
a quick law to ban that old 1840

5047
02:59:10,020 --> 02:59:10,520
law.

5048
02:59:10,980 --> 02:59:14,780
And we'll just have abortions modeled after whatever

5049
02:59:14,780 --> 02:59:16,280
California, for example.

5050
02:59:16,640 --> 02:59:17,780
They could have done a lot of things.

5051
02:59:17,780 --> 02:59:19,360
But no, they go to all these crazy

5052
02:59:19,360 --> 02:59:20,780
lawsuits one way or the other.

5053
02:59:20,960 --> 02:59:21,860
They have it.

5054
02:59:21,920 --> 02:59:23,420
It's a Democrat run state.

5055
02:59:23,520 --> 02:59:24,340
What is the problem?

5056
02:59:24,400 --> 02:59:26,220
They can't get off their asses to do

5057
02:59:26,220 --> 02:59:28,380
a simple legislative move.

5058
02:59:28,840 --> 02:59:29,420
I don't know.

5059
02:59:30,440 --> 02:59:32,080
The whole thing is stupid.

5060
02:59:32,520 --> 02:59:36,380
OK, I have no idea what's going on.

5061
02:59:36,480 --> 02:59:38,680
I had the clip, too, but I don't

5062
02:59:38,680 --> 02:59:38,920
know.

5063
02:59:39,940 --> 02:59:42,240
You'd think that it would be well, they're

5064
02:59:42,240 --> 02:59:43,360
doing odd things there.

5065
02:59:44,140 --> 02:59:46,120
Maybe they wanted to make a big fuss.

5066
02:59:46,120 --> 02:59:47,980
They wanted to bring it to the fore.

5067
02:59:48,640 --> 02:59:50,320
Oh, so large.

5068
02:59:50,560 --> 02:59:51,680
Oh, it's all fat.

5069
02:59:51,760 --> 02:59:52,800
This is Trump's fault.

5070
02:59:52,900 --> 02:59:53,960
This is bullcrap.

5071
02:59:55,420 --> 02:59:56,580
Final clip for me.

5072
02:59:56,660 --> 02:59:59,280
I thought this was an interesting move from

5073
02:59:59,280 --> 03:00:01,180
you, Penn.

5074
03:00:01,460 --> 03:00:04,320
This morning, the University of Pennsylvania reversing course,

5075
03:00:04,380 --> 03:00:07,200
saying it will now ban transgender athletes and

5076
03:00:07,200 --> 03:00:09,500
strip trans swimmer Leah Thomas of her swimming

5077
03:00:09,500 --> 03:00:09,900
titles.

5078
03:00:09,940 --> 03:00:11,900
The school reaching a deal with the Trump

5079
03:00:11,900 --> 03:00:14,760
administration, saying it will comply with Title nine,

5080
03:00:14,920 --> 03:00:17,280
as interpreted by the Department of Education and

5081
03:00:17,280 --> 03:00:19,320
saying it will restore the records and titles

5082
03:00:19,320 --> 03:00:21,800
of female athletes who lost to Thomas and

5083
03:00:21,800 --> 03:00:23,440
send apology letters to them.

5084
03:00:24,640 --> 03:00:27,800
Leah Thomas made history in 2022, becoming the

5085
03:00:27,800 --> 03:00:30,680
first openly transgender athlete to win an NCAA

5086
03:00:30,680 --> 03:00:32,120
Division one title.

5087
03:00:32,460 --> 03:00:35,280
The win sparked fierce debate over fairness, including

5088
03:00:35,280 --> 03:00:37,140
from some of Thomas's own teammates.

5089
03:00:37,140 --> 03:00:40,780
I knew there would be scrutiny against me

5090
03:00:40,780 --> 03:00:43,220
if I competed as a woman.

5091
03:00:46,140 --> 03:00:48,120
I was prepared for that.

5092
03:00:48,300 --> 03:00:50,640
The Trump administration earlier this year suspended one

5093
03:00:50,640 --> 03:00:52,760
hundred and seventy five million dollars in federal

5094
03:00:52,760 --> 03:00:55,440
funds from Penn, claiming the University of Pennsylvania

5095
03:00:55,440 --> 03:00:58,740
repeatedly violated civil rights laws by allowing men

5096
03:00:58,740 --> 03:01:00,280
to compete in women's sports.

5097
03:01:00,680 --> 03:01:03,680
Education Secretary Linda McMahon calling Penn's new agreement

5098
03:01:03,680 --> 03:01:06,560
a major victory for women and girls nationwide.

5099
03:01:06,560 --> 03:01:09,220
No comment yet from the NCAA or Leah

5100
03:01:09,220 --> 03:01:09,560
Thomas.

5101
03:01:09,720 --> 03:01:12,080
But in a 2022 interview, she defended her

5102
03:01:12,080 --> 03:01:13,120
decision to compete.

5103
03:01:13,340 --> 03:01:17,320
Trans people don't transition for athletics.

5104
03:01:17,580 --> 03:01:20,340
We just want to be able to live

5105
03:01:20,340 --> 03:01:21,060
our lives.

5106
03:01:21,420 --> 03:01:24,200
The NCAA still recognizes her championship win, but

5107
03:01:24,200 --> 03:01:26,280
Penn has removed her swimming records from its

5108
03:01:26,280 --> 03:01:26,660
website.

5109
03:01:27,060 --> 03:01:29,280
I mean, wow, that's more.

5110
03:01:29,280 --> 03:01:31,940
I don't understand why they don't think I'm

5111
03:01:31,940 --> 03:01:32,520
a girl.

5112
03:01:33,440 --> 03:01:35,220
What do you think happened there?

5113
03:01:36,020 --> 03:01:38,080
How did that all of a sudden change?

5114
03:01:38,280 --> 03:01:39,060
You, Penn?

5115
03:01:39,260 --> 03:01:40,860
I mean, what must have happened?

5116
03:01:41,700 --> 03:01:43,020
Somebody looked at the books.

5117
03:01:43,580 --> 03:01:45,720
They don't have the endowment Harvard has, and

5118
03:01:45,720 --> 03:01:47,320
they figure they couldn't wait it out.

5119
03:01:47,420 --> 03:01:48,240
And they're new at this.

5120
03:01:48,580 --> 03:01:51,060
No, why would it's the simplest thing to

5121
03:01:51,060 --> 03:01:51,260
do?

5122
03:01:51,980 --> 03:01:52,660
You crazy.

5123
03:01:52,900 --> 03:01:53,840
You know, what are you going to fight

5124
03:01:53,840 --> 03:01:56,760
this like the way Harvard's doing all the

5125
03:01:56,760 --> 03:01:57,040
way?

5126
03:01:57,080 --> 03:01:58,260
It's going to cost you a lot of

5127
03:01:58,260 --> 03:01:58,480
money.

5128
03:01:58,540 --> 03:01:59,300
It's embarrassing.

5129
03:02:00,280 --> 03:02:02,760
And there were there were the lead operation

5130
03:02:02,760 --> 03:02:05,640
with this Leah Thomas person, you know, big

5131
03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:07,020
dude, huge.

5132
03:02:07,400 --> 03:02:10,140
I don't understand it.

5133
03:02:10,780 --> 03:02:14,760
And so it's borderline ludicrous.

5134
03:02:15,340 --> 03:02:18,120
Or maybe a picture showed up.

5135
03:02:19,380 --> 03:02:20,580
What's that in your mouth?

5136
03:02:34,780 --> 03:02:36,260
In the morning.

5137
03:02:36,700 --> 03:02:37,120
Yeah, that's right.

5138
03:02:37,200 --> 03:02:39,680
Remember, we have those fabulous A.I. end

5139
03:02:39,680 --> 03:02:41,100
of show mixes on the way, of course,

5140
03:02:41,200 --> 03:02:43,860
a non-A.I., a human tip of

5141
03:02:43,860 --> 03:02:45,600
the day from our very own John C.

5142
03:02:45,680 --> 03:02:46,000
Dvorak.

5143
03:02:46,000 --> 03:02:48,640
And we have some meetups and we have

5144
03:02:48,640 --> 03:02:51,280
some PhDs, lots of birthdays today for some

5145
03:02:51,280 --> 03:02:52,300
reason, and one nighting.

5146
03:02:52,400 --> 03:02:54,760
And of course, we want to thank everybody

5147
03:02:54,760 --> 03:02:55,840
who supported the show.

5148
03:02:55,920 --> 03:02:56,840
Fifty dollars and above.

5149
03:02:56,940 --> 03:02:57,200
John C.

5150
03:02:57,240 --> 03:02:57,840
Dvorak, go.

5151
03:03:00,080 --> 03:03:00,800
Clip two.

5152
03:03:01,020 --> 03:03:02,200
Clip two, yes.

5153
03:03:02,720 --> 03:03:05,800
Paul Levy in Grinnell, Iowa.

5154
03:03:06,120 --> 03:03:06,840
One hundred bucks.

5155
03:03:06,960 --> 03:03:08,720
And Baron Latican, there he is in Houston,

5156
03:03:08,840 --> 03:03:09,060
Texas.

5157
03:03:09,160 --> 03:03:09,600
One hundred.

5158
03:03:10,140 --> 03:03:11,180
John Robben, a hundred.

5159
03:03:11,780 --> 03:03:12,680
A lot of hundreds today.

5160
03:03:12,800 --> 03:03:17,380
Lucas Zuha in Denmark, I guess.

5161
03:03:18,120 --> 03:03:18,740
Or is that Deutschland?

5162
03:03:19,300 --> 03:03:19,960
That's Deutschland.

5163
03:03:20,220 --> 03:03:20,760
Yeah, Deutschland.

5164
03:03:21,140 --> 03:03:21,480
Yeah, Deutschland.

5165
03:03:22,040 --> 03:03:22,500
A hundred.

5166
03:03:23,120 --> 03:03:25,000
He's in Bayerbrunn.

5167
03:03:26,380 --> 03:03:30,160
Sir F.A.N. Beck in Vista, California.

5168
03:03:30,200 --> 03:03:30,580
A hundred.

5169
03:03:31,820 --> 03:03:34,160
Another donation from Lucas for a hundred.

5170
03:03:34,760 --> 03:03:35,720
It's interesting.

5171
03:03:36,180 --> 03:03:37,100
That could be a duplicate.

5172
03:03:37,360 --> 03:03:37,820
Maybe not.

5173
03:03:38,100 --> 03:03:38,480
It's hard to say.

5174
03:03:38,820 --> 03:03:39,940
But there he is.

5175
03:03:41,260 --> 03:03:44,000
Kevin McLaughlin comes in at 8008, by the

5176
03:03:44,000 --> 03:03:44,160
way.

5177
03:03:44,240 --> 03:03:45,400
He is the Archduke of Luna.

5178
03:03:46,160 --> 03:03:48,320
Lover of America and lover of melons.

5179
03:03:49,700 --> 03:03:54,660
He has a DSA, Laos DEO, which translates

5180
03:03:54,660 --> 03:03:56,740
to Praise Be to God, inscribed on top

5181
03:03:56,740 --> 03:04:00,960
of the Ing, Washington Monument, facing east toward

5182
03:04:00,960 --> 03:04:01,860
the rising sun.

5183
03:04:02,240 --> 03:04:03,780
Happy Independence Day, he says.

5184
03:04:04,900 --> 03:04:07,180
Sir F.A.N., he donates every single

5185
03:04:07,180 --> 03:04:07,560
show.

5186
03:04:07,640 --> 03:04:08,320
He does indeed.

5187
03:04:08,540 --> 03:04:10,300
Sir Fast Eddie in Alameda, California.

5188
03:04:10,500 --> 03:04:11,240
Hey, Fast Eddie.

5189
03:04:12,160 --> 03:04:12,680
8008.

5190
03:04:13,840 --> 03:04:17,810
Rick, what is it?

5191
03:04:18,490 --> 03:04:19,010
Mooyman.

5192
03:04:19,430 --> 03:04:19,950
Mooyman.

5193
03:04:20,090 --> 03:04:20,610
Mooyman.

5194
03:04:20,930 --> 03:04:21,450
Mooyman.

5195
03:04:21,590 --> 03:04:22,430
Yeah, you got this.

5196
03:04:22,910 --> 03:04:23,330
You got this.

5197
03:04:23,490 --> 03:04:25,850
And he's in Rijswijk.

5198
03:04:26,230 --> 03:04:26,750
Rijswijk.

5199
03:04:26,930 --> 03:04:27,190
Close.

5200
03:04:28,070 --> 03:04:28,550
Rijswijk.

5201
03:04:28,990 --> 03:04:34,370
Rijswijk, which is the rising Viking in Holland.

5202
03:04:35,110 --> 03:04:35,590
8008.

5203
03:04:36,130 --> 03:04:37,670
That is another boob donation.

5204
03:04:37,870 --> 03:04:38,750
We got a lot of boob donations today.

5205
03:04:38,750 --> 03:04:39,630
It's his birthday.

5206
03:04:39,990 --> 03:04:41,710
Oh, it was on July 2nd.

5207
03:04:41,770 --> 03:04:41,970
Yes.

5208
03:04:42,050 --> 03:04:42,290
Okay.

5209
03:04:42,450 --> 03:04:43,250
You're on the list.

5210
03:04:44,890 --> 03:04:46,550
Kevin Knutson, 80.

5211
03:04:47,230 --> 03:04:51,210
And this is for Jill, who turns 80.

5212
03:04:51,370 --> 03:04:52,690
Now, they wrote a note in.

5213
03:04:52,690 --> 03:04:53,790
69, not 89.

5214
03:04:53,990 --> 03:04:55,190
It's actually on a piece of paper.

5215
03:04:55,630 --> 03:04:56,110
69.

5216
03:04:56,110 --> 03:04:57,790
Kind of hard to ignore.

5217
03:05:00,350 --> 03:05:03,010
And it's from the desk of John and

5218
03:05:03,010 --> 03:05:03,210
Adam.

5219
03:05:03,390 --> 03:05:07,150
This check and note will arrive post Jill's

5220
03:05:07,150 --> 03:05:07,610
birthday.

5221
03:05:08,830 --> 03:05:10,290
And he wants a shout out for his.

5222
03:05:10,670 --> 03:05:12,930
She's going to be 69 years young.

5223
03:05:13,390 --> 03:05:13,730
Yes.

5224
03:05:14,310 --> 03:05:16,550
Remember, guys, always marry up.

5225
03:05:17,070 --> 03:05:18,330
I sure did.

5226
03:05:19,830 --> 03:05:21,630
That's a compliment to his wife.

5227
03:05:21,630 --> 03:05:26,210
Jay Doucette in Stevensville, Canada.

5228
03:05:27,470 --> 03:05:28,150
NL is.

5229
03:05:28,490 --> 03:05:29,950
I don't know where one of the places.

5230
03:05:30,970 --> 03:05:31,890
Hello, guys.

5231
03:05:32,430 --> 03:05:33,490
He writes Newfoundland.

5232
03:05:33,570 --> 03:05:34,530
That's what NL is.

5233
03:05:34,670 --> 03:05:34,830
Okay.

5234
03:05:34,970 --> 03:05:35,350
Yes.

5235
03:05:36,770 --> 03:05:39,010
Then he came out 78, 77.

5236
03:05:39,330 --> 03:05:40,930
But there's something interesting.

5237
03:05:41,030 --> 03:05:41,490
He says here.

5238
03:05:41,770 --> 03:05:43,610
I always punch people in the mouth and

5239
03:05:43,610 --> 03:05:45,970
have my wife Katja listening, but she can

5240
03:05:45,970 --> 03:05:47,750
never remember the name of the show and

5241
03:05:47,750 --> 03:05:50,590
says, who are those guys that are always

5242
03:05:50,590 --> 03:05:51,110
fighting?

5243
03:05:53,310 --> 03:05:54,370
That will be us.

5244
03:05:55,730 --> 03:05:56,990
And you know what it is?

5245
03:05:57,050 --> 03:05:59,570
It's because people are not used to hearing

5246
03:05:59,570 --> 03:06:02,030
disagreement anymore.

5247
03:06:02,490 --> 03:06:05,090
No, they've been watching K-Part and Brooks.

5248
03:06:05,730 --> 03:06:07,090
All they hear is disagreement.

5249
03:06:07,350 --> 03:06:07,910
You're right.

5250
03:06:08,030 --> 03:06:10,010
Oh, no, you're a writer than I am.

5251
03:06:10,030 --> 03:06:11,330
But it's the same on podcasts.

5252
03:06:11,670 --> 03:06:13,450
You know, all these podcasters go on each

5253
03:06:13,450 --> 03:06:14,030
other's pockets.

5254
03:06:16,270 --> 03:06:16,770
Oh, definitely.

5255
03:06:17,010 --> 03:06:17,630
Oh, sure, Megan.

5256
03:06:21,130 --> 03:06:21,770
James Sissy.

5257
03:06:22,290 --> 03:06:23,670
Oh, actually, sorry.

5258
03:06:23,850 --> 03:06:26,910
Jeffrey McNeil in Somerville, South Carolina, 78, 77.

5259
03:06:27,110 --> 03:06:32,030
James Sissy, 76, 96.

5260
03:06:33,030 --> 03:06:35,610
He says, I enjoy this product.

5261
03:06:36,750 --> 03:06:37,270
Good.

5262
03:06:37,850 --> 03:06:39,190
Exactly that voice.

5263
03:06:39,290 --> 03:06:40,810
We enjoy making it for you.

5264
03:06:42,310 --> 03:06:42,870
Dame Rita.

5265
03:06:43,030 --> 03:06:43,750
There she is.

5266
03:06:43,850 --> 03:06:45,570
Dame Rita's back, 76, 74.

5267
03:06:45,850 --> 03:06:47,670
Dame Rita, always in the house.

5268
03:06:49,030 --> 03:06:53,050
Derek Allison in Rock Springs, Wyoming, 76, 17.

5269
03:06:53,810 --> 03:06:58,030
Earl Hugger of Kitties in Zondam, Holland, 74,

5270
03:06:58,130 --> 03:06:58,630
25.

5271
03:06:59,270 --> 03:07:00,790
Hug more kitties, he writes.

5272
03:07:01,770 --> 03:07:05,370
Christopher Hodges in Union, Mississippi, 74, 25.

5273
03:07:05,510 --> 03:07:09,350
Donald Mills, Shasta Lake, California, 74, 25.

5274
03:07:10,390 --> 03:07:10,990
A happy fourth.

5275
03:07:11,170 --> 03:07:14,390
The Dame Dana Carroll in Laughlin, Nevada.

5276
03:07:14,490 --> 03:07:17,330
She comes in quite a bit, 72, 27.

5277
03:07:17,330 --> 03:07:25,670
Lisa Falcone in Williams Lake, BC,

5278
03:07:26,510 --> 03:07:29,590
65, 80.

5279
03:07:31,230 --> 03:07:34,130
She's happy that we shrink her amygdala.

5280
03:07:34,450 --> 03:07:38,790
Sir Darius Unity in Rocky Mount, North Carolina,

5281
03:07:38,950 --> 03:07:40,250
63, 31.

5282
03:07:42,990 --> 03:07:44,310
I don't know what he says there.

5283
03:07:44,390 --> 03:07:46,030
He says he sent me a long boots

5284
03:07:46,030 --> 03:07:46,450
on the ground.

5285
03:07:46,550 --> 03:07:46,930
That's correct.

5286
03:07:46,930 --> 03:07:47,770
Oh, good.

5287
03:07:47,990 --> 03:07:48,110
Okay.

5288
03:07:48,250 --> 03:07:51,450
Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona, 6006.

5289
03:07:51,590 --> 03:07:52,590
Sir Dancing Mike.

5290
03:07:53,150 --> 03:07:55,350
There he is, dancing away in Maryville, Tennessee,

5291
03:07:55,850 --> 03:07:56,670
55, 55.

5292
03:07:56,870 --> 03:07:57,790
This is a birthday donation.

5293
03:07:57,970 --> 03:07:58,390
For his wife.

5294
03:07:59,050 --> 03:07:59,690
Yes, Dame Denise.

5295
03:08:00,310 --> 03:08:01,190
Dame Denise.

5296
03:08:02,190 --> 03:08:03,150
Murrayville, Murrayville.

5297
03:08:03,970 --> 03:08:06,410
Anonymous, Thousand Oaks, California, 55, 55.

5298
03:08:06,930 --> 03:08:08,790
Brian Furley, 55, 10.

5299
03:08:08,870 --> 03:08:09,850
Double nickels on the dime.

5300
03:08:09,850 --> 03:08:17,750
Diana Grilly Camden in Junction City, Ohio, 54,

5301
03:08:17,970 --> 03:08:18,430
30.

5302
03:08:19,530 --> 03:08:20,850
A lot of names today.

5303
03:08:21,090 --> 03:08:24,590
John Bassano in Madison, Alabama, 52, 72.

5304
03:08:24,710 --> 03:08:26,230
This will make up for what's going to

5305
03:08:26,230 --> 03:08:27,990
happen on Sunday when no one's going to

5306
03:08:27,990 --> 03:08:29,350
be listening or donating.

5307
03:08:30,690 --> 03:08:35,090
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5308
03:08:35,090 --> 03:08:35,190
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5309
03:08:35,190 --> 03:08:43,670
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5310
03:08:43,670 --> 03:08:44,410
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5311
03:08:44,410 --> 03:08:44,870
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5312
03:08:44,870 --> 03:08:45,250
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5313
03:08:45,250 --> 03:08:48,270
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5314
03:08:48,410 --> 03:08:49,090
uh, uh,

5315
03:08:49,690 --> 03:08:59,450
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5316
03:08:59,450 --> 03:08:59,550
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5317
03:08:59,550 --> 03:08:59,650
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5318
03:08:59,650 --> 03:08:59,750
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5319
03:08:59,750 --> 03:08:59,850
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5320
03:08:59,850 --> 03:08:59,950
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5321
03:08:59,950 --> 03:09:03,910
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh, uh,

5322
03:09:12,010 --> 03:09:25,230
uh, uh, uh, uh,

5323
03:09:25,290 --> 03:09:29,350
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5324
03:09:29,830 --> 03:09:29,930
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5325
03:09:29,930 --> 03:09:30,030
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5326
03:09:30,030 --> 03:09:30,130
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5327
03:09:30,130 --> 03:09:31,630
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5328
03:09:31,630 --> 03:09:42,130
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5329
03:09:57,710 --> 03:09:59,490
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5330
03:09:59,490 --> 03:09:59,950
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5331
03:09:59,950 --> 03:10:00,050
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5332
03:10:00,050 --> 03:10:02,110
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5333
03:10:25,610 --> 03:10:29,890
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5334
03:10:29,890 --> 03:10:29,990
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5335
03:10:29,990 --> 03:10:38,670
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5336
03:10:50,250 --> 03:10:59,890
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5337
03:10:59,890 --> 03:10:59,990
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5338
03:10:59,990 --> 03:11:00,090
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5339
03:11:00,090 --> 03:11:00,190
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5340
03:11:00,190 --> 03:11:15,670
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

5341
03:11:28,530 --> 03:11:29,890
uh, uh, ...

5342
03:11:29,910 --> 03:11:30,390
the 5th.

5343
03:11:30,390 --> 03:11:31,850
He's the Chinese baby boy.

5344
03:11:32,450 --> 03:11:35,350
Dan Peruzzo, his smoking hot wife Bailey Davies,

5345
03:11:35,530 --> 03:11:36,450
celebrates tomorrow.

5346
03:11:36,710 --> 03:11:39,150
Sir Dancing Mike wishes his smoking hot wife

5347
03:11:39,150 --> 03:11:41,850
Dame Denise a very happy 55th tomorrow.

5348
03:11:42,550 --> 03:11:43,930
No, on the 5th, I'm sorry.

5349
03:11:44,110 --> 03:11:45,390
And Bailey is on the 5th as well.

5350
03:11:45,470 --> 03:11:48,350
Wesley Childs, his wife Lauren from Macon, Georgia,

5351
03:11:48,410 --> 03:11:49,610
happy birthday on the 6th.

5352
03:11:49,650 --> 03:11:50,550
She turns 37.

5353
03:11:51,070 --> 03:11:54,630
And surprise, night of astonishment, says happy birthday

5354
03:11:54,630 --> 03:11:58,090
to Dame Ma Su, turns 69 on July

5355
03:11:58,090 --> 03:11:58,470
8th.

5356
03:11:58,470 --> 03:12:00,590
Happy birthday to all of these birthday boys

5357
03:12:00,590 --> 03:12:02,710
and girls from the best podcast in the

5358
03:12:02,710 --> 03:12:03,230
universe.

5359
03:12:05,110 --> 03:12:08,290
Russell Hinton receives a PhD in media deconstruction

5360
03:12:08,290 --> 03:12:09,710
thanks to his support of the show.

5361
03:12:10,090 --> 03:12:11,610
He was our top executive producer.

5362
03:12:11,770 --> 03:12:14,150
And you can go to noagendarings.com and

5363
03:12:14,150 --> 03:12:16,850
give us the name you want on your

5364
03:12:16,850 --> 03:12:18,850
PhD and the address to send it to.

5365
03:12:18,910 --> 03:12:19,990
We'll be happy to do that, Russell.

5366
03:12:20,370 --> 03:12:24,190
Congratulations with your certificate, with your PhD.

5367
03:12:24,530 --> 03:12:26,270
And it's a real one from us.

5368
03:12:26,790 --> 03:12:28,210
And then we have one night to celebrate.

5369
03:12:28,350 --> 03:12:29,770
That will be the same, Russell Hinton.

5370
03:12:29,950 --> 03:12:31,250
So if you can grab your blade, John.

5371
03:12:31,450 --> 03:12:32,530
Yeah, I got it right here.

5372
03:12:32,690 --> 03:12:33,690
Beautiful, Russell.

5373
03:12:34,990 --> 03:12:37,650
PhD, Mr. Russell, step right up.

5374
03:12:37,710 --> 03:12:39,370
Thanks to your support of the NOAA Gymnasium

5375
03:12:39,370 --> 03:12:41,290
and the amount of $1,000 or more,

5376
03:12:41,370 --> 03:12:44,830
I'm very proud to pronounce KB as Sir

5377
03:12:44,830 --> 03:12:45,910
Russell Hinton.

5378
03:12:46,210 --> 03:12:47,870
For you, we've got hookahs and blow, red

5379
03:12:47,870 --> 03:12:48,790
boys and chardonnay.

5380
03:12:48,930 --> 03:12:51,650
We've got taquitos and tequila, diet soda and

5381
03:12:51,650 --> 03:12:53,410
video games, fish pie and fellatio.

5382
03:12:53,650 --> 03:12:55,450
Harlins and haldol, redheads and rise.

5383
03:12:55,910 --> 03:12:58,410
We've got beer and blunts, Brazilian hotties and

5384
03:12:58,410 --> 03:13:02,170
cachaça, cowgirls and coffee varnish, coffin varnish, lupin

5385
03:13:02,170 --> 03:13:04,590
-esque, luminum rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and

5386
03:13:04,590 --> 03:13:06,650
vanilla, bong hits of bourbon, sparkling cider and

5387
03:13:06,650 --> 03:13:09,170
eskort, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and

5388
03:13:09,170 --> 03:13:09,570
tablum.

5389
03:13:09,870 --> 03:13:11,670
And as always at the roundtable for all

5390
03:13:11,670 --> 03:13:13,270
of our NOAA Gender Knights and Dames, we

5391
03:13:13,270 --> 03:13:15,090
have mutton and mead.

5392
03:13:16,310 --> 03:13:17,870
While you're chomping on that along with the

5393
03:13:17,870 --> 03:13:19,590
rest of our Knights and Dames here at

5394
03:13:19,590 --> 03:13:21,930
the NOAA Gender Roundtable, head over to noagenderings

5395
03:13:21,930 --> 03:13:22,410
.com.

5396
03:13:22,470 --> 03:13:25,010
That's where you'll see the very handsome Knight

5397
03:13:25,010 --> 03:13:26,210
and Dame rings.

5398
03:13:26,650 --> 03:13:28,810
These are Cignet rings, so when you receive

5399
03:13:28,810 --> 03:13:31,050
this, and please give us a ring size.

5400
03:13:31,170 --> 03:13:32,750
There's a ring sizing guide on the website

5401
03:13:32,750 --> 03:13:34,810
and an address to send it to.

5402
03:13:34,950 --> 03:13:36,450
You'll get a couple of sticks of wax.

5403
03:13:36,570 --> 03:13:38,930
With that, it can be used to seal

5404
03:13:38,930 --> 03:13:41,370
your very important correspondence as it is a

5405
03:13:41,370 --> 03:13:41,910
Cignet ring.

5406
03:13:41,970 --> 03:13:44,270
And as always, it comes with a Certificate

5407
03:13:44,270 --> 03:13:45,190
of Authenticity.

5408
03:13:46,030 --> 03:13:48,190
And, uh, hold on, I forgot my meetups

5409
03:13:48,190 --> 03:13:48,570
jingle.

5410
03:13:48,850 --> 03:13:52,090
Oh boy, I am unprepared for some reason.

5411
03:13:52,210 --> 03:13:53,750
Oh, that's because of the, that's because of

5412
03:13:53,750 --> 03:13:54,470
your phone call.

5413
03:13:54,650 --> 03:13:55,250
That's what happened.

5414
03:13:55,470 --> 03:13:56,670
Hey, by the way, it was a Chinese

5415
03:13:56,670 --> 03:13:57,170
guy.

5416
03:13:57,570 --> 03:13:59,330
Oh, what did the Chinese guy?

5417
03:13:59,510 --> 03:13:59,930
In Chinese.

5418
03:14:00,450 --> 03:14:01,290
What did he say?

5419
03:14:02,210 --> 03:14:03,910
I see he said something.

5420
03:14:04,190 --> 03:14:05,630
I'm not going to do a Chinese, but

5421
03:14:05,630 --> 03:14:06,670
I cussed him out in Chinese.

5422
03:14:06,770 --> 03:14:07,950
I do have a few choice words.

5423
03:14:08,070 --> 03:14:08,490
Oh, really?

5424
03:14:08,570 --> 03:14:10,310
You care to share your Chinese cuss words?

5425
03:14:10,330 --> 03:14:11,630
No, if you go over the air, no.

5426
03:14:11,810 --> 03:14:12,310
Oh, okay.

5427
03:14:12,310 --> 03:14:15,270
No agenda meetups.

5428
03:14:18,970 --> 03:14:21,310
Yeah, baby, it's always like a party at

5429
03:14:21,310 --> 03:14:22,530
the no agenda meetups.

5430
03:14:22,710 --> 03:14:23,990
I think we have another one come up

5431
03:14:23,990 --> 03:14:26,430
in Fredericksburg, but not until October, but I'm

5432
03:14:26,430 --> 03:14:27,310
very excited about that.

5433
03:14:27,370 --> 03:14:28,710
It just got locked in yesterday.

5434
03:14:29,370 --> 03:14:31,210
Uh, there is a meetup taking place today

5435
03:14:31,210 --> 03:14:33,630
at the Northern Wake, FEMA region number four

5436
03:14:33,630 --> 03:14:36,430
potluck and whiskey, uh, that kicks off in

5437
03:14:36,430 --> 03:14:38,950
just about, uh, about a half hour from

5438
03:14:38,950 --> 03:14:41,530
now, six o'clock Eastern hoppy endings in

5439
03:14:41,530 --> 03:14:42,810
Raleigh, North Carolina.

5440
03:14:43,030 --> 03:14:45,450
And tomorrow 4th of July is July 4th

5441
03:14:45,450 --> 03:14:46,410
in Victoria.

5442
03:14:47,030 --> 03:14:48,590
Just beer in the sun.

5443
03:14:48,810 --> 03:14:49,450
Five 30.

5444
03:14:49,630 --> 03:14:52,170
That's at the lighthouse brewery in Victoria, British

5445
03:14:52,170 --> 03:14:53,030
Columbia, sir.

5446
03:14:53,050 --> 03:14:54,870
Rogue of the taverns and his dog rogue

5447
03:14:54,870 --> 03:14:57,670
are organizing that coming up in the month

5448
03:14:57,670 --> 03:14:59,790
of July, Santa Barbara, California, and the 10th,

5449
03:14:59,810 --> 03:15:02,090
the last dent, the last Denver city park

5450
03:15:02,090 --> 03:15:04,770
meetup in Denver on the 12th, Zurich, Switzerland

5451
03:15:04,770 --> 03:15:07,610
on the 12th, the 13th Camp Hill, Pennsylvania,

5452
03:15:07,870 --> 03:15:10,550
Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 19th, Albany, California.

5453
03:15:10,710 --> 03:15:12,750
John will be there on the 19th and

5454
03:15:12,750 --> 03:15:15,010
July 26, Anaheim, California.

5455
03:15:15,150 --> 03:15:15,450
No doubt.

5456
03:15:15,550 --> 03:15:16,350
That's Leo Bravo.

5457
03:15:16,610 --> 03:15:18,450
Probably now on number 65.

5458
03:15:18,730 --> 03:15:20,890
I think no agenda meetups are where you

5459
03:15:20,890 --> 03:15:23,390
meet the first responders in your life.

5460
03:15:23,490 --> 03:15:24,470
Connection is protection.

5461
03:15:24,590 --> 03:15:25,770
You need to go to at least one

5462
03:15:25,770 --> 03:15:26,030
of these.

5463
03:15:26,110 --> 03:15:27,830
I guarantee you you'll keep coming back for

5464
03:15:27,830 --> 03:15:30,030
more, go to no agenda, meetups.com to

5465
03:15:30,030 --> 03:15:31,790
find out where there is one being organized

5466
03:15:31,790 --> 03:15:32,250
near you.

5467
03:15:32,430 --> 03:15:34,470
If you can't find one near you, well,

5468
03:15:34,550 --> 03:15:35,150
how about this?

5469
03:15:35,270 --> 03:15:36,050
Start one yourself.

5470
03:15:36,210 --> 03:15:36,710
It's easy.

5471
03:15:36,830 --> 03:15:38,690
No agenda, meetups.com.

5472
03:15:38,690 --> 03:15:41,890
Sometimes you want to go hang out with

5473
03:15:41,890 --> 03:15:44,590
all the nights and days.

5474
03:15:56,470 --> 03:15:57,030
Yes.

5475
03:16:00,710 --> 03:16:03,090
With John's tip of the day on the

5476
03:16:03,090 --> 03:16:05,310
way, we always like to choose some end

5477
03:16:05,310 --> 03:16:08,990
of show ISOs at this particular moment in

5478
03:16:08,990 --> 03:16:09,530
the show.

5479
03:16:10,390 --> 03:16:11,870
I have a couple here.

5480
03:16:11,950 --> 03:16:13,510
Do you have any ISOs for today?

5481
03:16:13,650 --> 03:16:15,070
I have a couple, but why don't you

5482
03:16:15,070 --> 03:16:15,530
play yours?

5483
03:16:15,670 --> 03:16:16,030
Okay.

5484
03:16:16,310 --> 03:16:18,490
May the fourth be with you.

5485
03:16:19,110 --> 03:16:20,970
May the fourth be with you, huh?

5486
03:16:23,290 --> 03:16:24,850
Okay, my next one.

5487
03:16:25,410 --> 03:16:26,270
Come on, man.

5488
03:16:26,510 --> 03:16:27,770
You know you love it.

5489
03:16:30,410 --> 03:16:31,330
Here's another one.

5490
03:16:31,330 --> 03:16:34,430
That's info war journalism right there.

5491
03:16:35,830 --> 03:16:37,490
But you use an AI now?

5492
03:16:37,650 --> 03:16:38,310
That's not AI.

5493
03:16:39,150 --> 03:16:40,010
No, that's not AI.

5494
03:16:40,870 --> 03:16:41,550
And this one.

5495
03:16:42,250 --> 03:16:44,490
I think I need a cigarette after all

5496
03:16:44,490 --> 03:16:44,850
that.

5497
03:16:44,970 --> 03:16:46,250
Nah, come on, man.

5498
03:16:46,370 --> 03:16:46,650
That's good.

5499
03:16:47,250 --> 03:16:47,730
That's good.

5500
03:16:47,770 --> 03:16:50,210
It's three seconds, same as everything else.

5501
03:16:51,090 --> 03:16:52,850
Because I've always wanted to use sound effects,

5502
03:16:52,910 --> 03:16:54,530
so I got some stuff from NPR.

5503
03:16:54,690 --> 03:16:55,710
Here's the laughs.

5504
03:16:59,890 --> 03:17:01,870
Nah, I think you can do better than

5505
03:17:01,870 --> 03:17:02,730
that.

5506
03:17:02,810 --> 03:17:03,990
Okay, well, I didn't.

5507
03:17:04,530 --> 03:17:06,910
Well, I went to my go-to and

5508
03:17:06,910 --> 03:17:07,570
here we go.

5509
03:17:07,930 --> 03:17:08,790
Oh, sorry.

5510
03:17:09,090 --> 03:17:09,290
Wow.

5511
03:17:09,970 --> 03:17:11,870
Why don't these guys win all the podcasting

5512
03:17:11,870 --> 03:17:12,210
awards?

5513
03:17:12,950 --> 03:17:16,250
Because we don't pay the entry fee.

5514
03:17:16,370 --> 03:17:16,930
That's why.

5515
03:17:17,050 --> 03:17:18,730
And now it is time once again for

5516
03:17:18,730 --> 03:17:20,670
John Cena Borax tip of the day.

5517
03:17:31,650 --> 03:17:34,490
So there's a, I wanted to do this.

5518
03:17:34,590 --> 03:17:35,510
I should have done this tip a long

5519
03:17:35,510 --> 03:17:36,050
time ago.

5520
03:17:36,730 --> 03:17:39,030
And I discovered this product when I went

5521
03:17:39,030 --> 03:17:40,470
to Peru once.

5522
03:17:41,870 --> 03:17:43,950
And you can get them from Amazon.

5523
03:17:44,170 --> 03:17:44,990
They're made in Ecuador.

5524
03:17:45,250 --> 03:17:48,030
They're handmade in Ecuador and Peru and maybe

5525
03:17:48,030 --> 03:17:49,230
some other South American countries.

5526
03:17:49,330 --> 03:17:51,290
These are alpaca blankets.

5527
03:17:54,380 --> 03:17:55,860
Handmade alpaca blankets.

5528
03:17:56,080 --> 03:17:56,700
Wait a minute.

5529
03:17:57,140 --> 03:17:59,460
Can't you just get those from John Doerr's

5530
03:17:59,460 --> 03:17:59,780
wife?

5531
03:18:02,080 --> 03:18:03,000
You wouldn't get them.

5532
03:18:03,120 --> 03:18:03,860
They wouldn't be as good.

5533
03:18:04,020 --> 03:18:04,380
Oh, okay.

5534
03:18:04,900 --> 03:18:08,860
So they're not expensive considering they're made out

5535
03:18:08,860 --> 03:18:09,740
of alpaca wool.

5536
03:18:09,960 --> 03:18:11,220
They can be light or heavy.

5537
03:18:12,140 --> 03:18:14,600
They are beautiful.

5538
03:18:15,840 --> 03:18:17,320
And I would just advise one thing.

5539
03:18:17,460 --> 03:18:19,060
Don't get any of them that have a

5540
03:18:19,060 --> 03:18:20,540
lot of black color.

5541
03:18:20,780 --> 03:18:21,620
Oh, why is that?

5542
03:18:22,300 --> 03:18:24,960
You know, I bought a sweater in the

5543
03:18:24,960 --> 03:18:25,780
Andes.

5544
03:18:26,360 --> 03:18:27,940
You know, when I was a kid, I

5545
03:18:27,940 --> 03:18:29,120
bought a sweater in the Andes.

5546
03:18:29,240 --> 03:18:31,680
You should just start off every conversation.

5547
03:18:32,160 --> 03:18:33,760
You know, when I bought a sweater in

5548
03:18:33,760 --> 03:18:36,620
the Andes, on my way to Doha.

5549
03:18:36,860 --> 03:18:37,100
Yes.

5550
03:18:37,640 --> 03:18:40,700
And so it was like what they use

5551
03:18:40,700 --> 03:18:44,040
for black dye is not compatible with Western

5552
03:18:44,040 --> 03:18:44,840
civilization.

5553
03:18:45,120 --> 03:18:45,880
Let's put it that way.

5554
03:18:46,020 --> 03:18:46,340
Okay.

5555
03:18:46,540 --> 03:18:47,100
All right.

5556
03:18:47,620 --> 03:18:48,520
So get the colors.

5557
03:18:48,600 --> 03:18:49,440
The colors are fine.

5558
03:18:49,920 --> 03:18:51,420
But these blankets are available.

5559
03:18:51,560 --> 03:18:52,520
They have them on Amazon.

5560
03:18:52,780 --> 03:18:53,920
There's a couple of companies that make them.

5561
03:18:53,960 --> 03:18:56,960
Make sure they're handmade alpaca blanket.

5562
03:18:57,360 --> 03:18:58,500
It's the greatest.

5563
03:18:58,780 --> 03:19:00,140
And they also, you can use them as

5564
03:19:00,140 --> 03:19:01,640
a spread, a bed spread.

5565
03:19:02,320 --> 03:19:03,780
They're dynamite.

5566
03:19:04,320 --> 03:19:04,680
Dynamite.

5567
03:19:04,820 --> 03:19:05,800
They're super warm.

5568
03:19:06,080 --> 03:19:07,960
They're just a fabulous product.

5569
03:19:07,960 --> 03:19:10,500
And I'm going to now push it, promote

5570
03:19:10,500 --> 03:19:11,620
the alpaca blanket.

5571
03:19:11,880 --> 03:19:13,600
And where do we get the alpaca blankets?

5572
03:19:13,840 --> 03:19:14,480
You can get them.

5573
03:19:14,620 --> 03:19:16,500
You can just, well, you can go to

5574
03:19:16,500 --> 03:19:17,780
Amazon and find some there.

5575
03:19:17,820 --> 03:19:18,720
And they have the brands there.

5576
03:19:18,760 --> 03:19:19,820
You can also look up the brands.

5577
03:19:19,920 --> 03:19:21,900
You can buy them directly from various sources.

5578
03:19:22,040 --> 03:19:25,560
You can put alpaca blanket, Peru, alpaca blanket,

5579
03:19:25,820 --> 03:19:29,420
Ecuador, and you'll find some online sites that

5580
03:19:29,420 --> 03:19:29,800
sell them.

5581
03:19:29,960 --> 03:19:30,840
They're all over the place.

5582
03:19:31,040 --> 03:19:32,900
They're actually very available.

5583
03:19:33,160 --> 03:19:34,460
It would be very nice if you promoted

5584
03:19:34,460 --> 03:19:36,700
an American product once in a while.

5585
03:19:36,820 --> 03:19:38,700
I mean, it's always junk from China.

5586
03:19:39,140 --> 03:19:42,800
It's always rugs from all the cleaning products

5587
03:19:42,800 --> 03:19:43,520
have been American.

5588
03:19:44,500 --> 03:19:45,020
Really?

5589
03:19:45,880 --> 03:19:46,960
Oh, yeah, of course.

5590
03:19:47,200 --> 03:19:47,720
Chemicals.

5591
03:19:47,720 --> 03:19:48,520
We're your guy.

5592
03:19:48,600 --> 03:19:49,600
We're good with the chemical.

5593
03:19:50,480 --> 03:19:51,980
We're a chemical country.

5594
03:19:52,120 --> 03:19:52,480
That's right.

5595
03:19:52,640 --> 03:19:53,360
There it is, everybody.

5596
03:19:53,780 --> 03:19:55,500
Go to tipoftheday.net for John C.

5597
03:19:55,540 --> 03:19:56,600
Duborek's Tip of the Day.

5598
03:19:59,820 --> 03:20:09,420
And that concludes our broadcast day once again,

5599
03:20:10,020 --> 03:20:12,460
where we deconstruct the media for you.

5600
03:20:12,720 --> 03:20:14,180
We spin you down.

5601
03:20:14,320 --> 03:20:16,240
We let you know what's really going on

5602
03:20:16,240 --> 03:20:18,360
in the world and the things that were

5603
03:20:18,360 --> 03:20:20,100
not reported of what's going on in the

5604
03:20:20,100 --> 03:20:22,320
world and the things that are just confusing.

5605
03:20:23,860 --> 03:20:25,020
That's why we're here.

5606
03:20:26,000 --> 03:20:28,720
Now, if you want to stick around, we

5607
03:20:28,720 --> 03:20:31,040
do have random thoughts coming up next on

5608
03:20:31,040 --> 03:20:32,060
the no agenda stream.

5609
03:20:32,200 --> 03:20:34,600
If you're at the troll room, trollroom.io,

5610
03:20:34,760 --> 03:20:35,640
just keep listening.

5611
03:20:35,740 --> 03:20:37,500
Or if you've got one of those fancy

5612
03:20:37,500 --> 03:20:41,720
swanky free modern podcast apps that have live

5613
03:20:41,720 --> 03:20:45,440
notifications, live streams, and 90-second update times

5614
03:20:45,440 --> 03:20:47,980
when a podcast is published, just keep listening,

5615
03:20:48,380 --> 03:20:49,520
and you'll find it all.

5616
03:20:50,200 --> 03:20:52,740
End of show mixes brought to you by

5617
03:20:52,740 --> 03:20:57,500
Silicon Valley's AI, expertly prompted by Bonald Crabtree

5618
03:20:57,500 --> 03:20:59,240
and Daniel Brown.

5619
03:21:00,040 --> 03:21:01,660
Hold on to your hats, everybody.

5620
03:21:01,740 --> 03:21:03,160
It's the future coming up next.

5621
03:21:03,260 --> 03:21:05,300
And I am coming to you from the

5622
03:21:05,300 --> 03:21:07,380
heart of the Texas Hill Country right here

5623
03:21:07,380 --> 03:21:10,460
in picturesque Fredericksburg, where we always have a

5624
03:21:10,460 --> 03:21:12,540
dynamite 4th of July parade.

5625
03:21:13,000 --> 03:21:14,760
So I'll see you there if you're in

5626
03:21:14,760 --> 03:21:15,440
the Hill Country.

5627
03:21:15,640 --> 03:21:17,920
If not, until Sunday in the morning, everybody.

5628
03:21:18,140 --> 03:21:18,780
I'm Adam Curry.

5629
03:21:18,980 --> 03:21:22,200
Yeah, from northern Silicon Valley, where everyone wishes

5630
03:21:22,200 --> 03:21:24,920
you a happy Independence Day for the July.

5631
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I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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Remember us at noagendthedonations.com until Sunday.

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Adios, mofos, hui hui, and such.

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Wake up already.

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Our world is fake and petty.

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Adam Curry hates the AI machines.

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Resist what's inevitable.

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You'll never stay credible.

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He hates AI and the mainframe regime.

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Woo!

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Spot the spook on the jukebox.

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Spot them all in the troll room.

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So go learn AI in a hurry.

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I mean, I'm just gonna allow AI songs

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for the end of show mix now, because

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you're right.

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Okay, okay.

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I'm not gonna criticize you for this.

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You can't.

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Okay, because it's not really a criticism.

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You're, you cave, but you cave to modernity.

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Dream of a broadcast, not tied to any

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03:23:27,130 --> 03:23:27,770
brand.

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With an Apple script spark and a rebel's

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03:23:30,870 --> 03:23:33,690
heart, he builds a new medium, gave the

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03:23:33,690 --> 03:23:34,910
world a fresh start.

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03:23:35,050 --> 03:23:37,830
He's the godfather, the voice who led the

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03:23:37,830 --> 03:23:41,350
way, turned dreams into downloads, made history that

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day.

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From daily source code to no agenda's call.

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Adam Curry lit the fuse, now podcasts reach

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us all.

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No network needed.

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No gatekeepers here.

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03:23:59,320 --> 03:24:02,000
Just an RSS feed and a voice in

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your ear.

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He opened the door so creators could play.

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Now millions of stories are just a click

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away.

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It's freedom of speech.

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03:24:11,540 --> 03:24:13,060
It's a digital stage.

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A revolution in media, the turning of an

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03:24:16,140 --> 03:24:16,600
age.

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From humble beginnings to a worldwide embrace.

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03:24:20,300 --> 03:24:24,440
The podfather's vision for podcasts in their face.

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03:24:27,080 --> 03:24:31,120
Wake up in the morning, coffee in my

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03:24:31,120 --> 03:24:31,500
cup.

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03:24:32,340 --> 03:24:36,280
Turn on no agenda, time to catch up.

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John Dvorak's ready, he's got something to say.

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A nugget of wisdom to brighten my day.

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03:24:47,040 --> 03:24:51,100
Tip of the day, the Dvorak way.

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03:24:51,400 --> 03:24:55,960
From scrubbers to gadgets, he's leading the way.

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03:24:56,460 --> 03:25:00,060
A life hack, a shortcut, a tool or

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03:25:00,060 --> 03:25:00,600
a trick.

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With John's daily tip, I learn something quick.

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03:25:08,600 --> 03:25:12,960
Scrub buddies in the kitchen, cleaning up with

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ease.

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03:25:14,000 --> 03:25:17,780
Or Airsham in my toolbox, doing what I

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03:25:17,780 --> 03:25:18,540
please.

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03:25:18,740 --> 03:25:22,500
He's got a tip for living, for work

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03:25:22,500 --> 03:25:23,800
and for play.

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03:25:24,220 --> 03:25:28,200
A moment of genius, the Dvorak way.

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03:25:28,200 --> 03:25:31,100
John's tip of the day, you'll be a

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03:25:31,100 --> 03:25:32,640
life hack with.

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03:25:36,440 --> 03:25:38,440
Be a life hack with.

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03:25:40,720 --> 03:25:44,040
You'll be a life hack with.

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03:25:48,520 --> 03:25:54,270
The best podcast in the universe.

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Adios, mofo.

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03:25:55,930 --> 03:25:59,470
Dvorak.org slash N-A-M-E.

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03:25:59,590 --> 03:26:01,830
Wow, why don't these guys win all the

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podcasting awards?