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Adam Curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Thursday, December 19, 2024.

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This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media

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Assassination Episode 1722.

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This is no agenda.

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Bangin' eggnog and broadcasting live, almost live, from

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the heart of the Texas show country, here

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in FEMA Region No.

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6.

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Evening and morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm here

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avoiding the spike protein.

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I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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This is Crackpot and Buzzkill.

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In the morning.

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Yes, everybody.

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Welcome to Episode 1722.

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A best of, but we're here to get

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you ready for it, as I am traveling

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to my sister for the holidays.

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This is something different.

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Well, not really different, but something that I

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think is timely, this one.

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They're all timely.

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We did a climate change once, kind of

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an evergreen timely.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But this particular one, which Strokey Bill put

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together for us in two parts, takes us

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all the way back to the very beginning

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of COVID.

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Actually comes in with, I believe it starts

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with the testing.

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And man, remember that testing?

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Yeah, and we talked about the spinning it,

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spin it up.

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How many of those kits do you still

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have?

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How many of those test kits do you

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still have at the house?

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Well, these are the kits that came in

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later.

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I have probably two or three cases of

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them.

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Because they always give them away.

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They're giving them away free.

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And when you order a batch from the

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government or from your local pharmacy, they give

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you five or six of them.

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And they're useless, but they're kind of decorative.

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Well, I mean, just look at now.

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I mean, Tina and I take ivermectin weekly.

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Well, you know, it was hydroxychloroquine that was

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the first obscure drug that came into the

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conversation.

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Oh, that's right.

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That's right.

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I forgot.

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Don't forget that.

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Hydroxychloroquine.

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As soon as Trump mentioned it, it was

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verboten.

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Because this was the era, we have to

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always remember, it's kind of hard to, but

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it's all I have to remember because it's

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so long ago, that whatever Trump did, they

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did the opposite.

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So Trump suggests ivermectin.

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I'm sorry, he suggests hydroxychloroquine.

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And so it's bad.

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And then ivermectin came into the conversation later,

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and it became bad too.

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Horse-paced.

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What are you doing, you crazy people?

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So this particular best of, warning, trigger warning,

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you could get all mad all over again

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in listening to it, because you just hear

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how crazy it was and what we lived

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through.

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And congratulations if you're listening to this episode,

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because you lived.

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You lived through it.

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You probably lived through it with us.

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So let's get started right now with part

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one of the best, if there's such a

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thing, of COVID.

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CBS2 has learned that an army of NYPD

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officers will fan out across the city this

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weekend to make sure that people are wearing

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masks and maintaining social distance.

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CBS2's Marcia Kramer has this exclusive story.

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You might say it's no more Mr. Nice

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The NYPD will be out in force at

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parks, beaches, and playgrounds this weekend to make

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sure New Yorkers don't get up close and

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personal with each other, that everyone observes social

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We're past the point of warnings.

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This is a dangerous situation.

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NYPD Chief of Department Terrence Monaghan telling me

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that New Yorkers drawn out of their homes

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by the expected sunny skies and warm temperatures

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this weekend will see a large police presence,

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1,000 cops all five boroughs to keep

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New Yorkers safe by trying to stop the

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spread of COVID-19.

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Barbecues with large gatherings of people together, organized

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sports events, people hanging together trying to drink

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or something along those lines.

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People who are just walking together, exercising on

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a blanket with their family, those aren't people

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we're going to bother.

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They don't have a mask, we'll give them

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masks.

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Will you really arrest people?

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incident, yes, we will.

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I hope it never comes to that, though,

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Marsha.

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People should understand just how dangerous a virus

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this is.

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We will shut you down.

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We will cite you.

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And if we need to, we will arrest

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you, and we will take you to jail,

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period.

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There should be nothing unambiguous about that.

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Don't make us treat you like a criminal.

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But if you act like a criminal and

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you violate the law and you refuse to

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do what is necessary to save lives in

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the city in the middle of a pandemic,

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we will take you to jail, period.

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Mayor Lightfoot facing criticism tonight after getting her

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hair done.

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A photo surfaced of the mayor with a

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hairdresser, but she appeared to ignore social distancing

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efforts, standing right next to them for the

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what the mayor had to say.

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I'm the public face of this city.

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I'm on national media, and I'm out in

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the public eye.

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take my personal hygiene very seriously.

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to have a haircut.

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I'm not able to do that myself, and

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so I got a haircut.

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Do you want to talk more about that?

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that the mayor had called on people not

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to go out and get their hair done,

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and one of her Stay Home, Save Lives

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PSAs.

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Necessary for new members to function properly in

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the society they are being inducted into are

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all imbued at this time.

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Repetition is typical, as its use helps hammer

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the spell home.

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The wearing of masks may be required.

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Masking has traditionally played an important role in

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rituals of this kind, enabling and hastening the

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suppression of ego to help facilitate a death

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of the old identity before the identification with

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and manifestation of a new one.

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Disguised under a mask and hidden away, the

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initiate is more easily able to transcend the

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self, pushed further toward that invisible line between

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the physical and spiritual realms.

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I'm sure you've seen it in a number

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of polls.

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There's a huge difference between Democrats and Republicans

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over whether or not they think it's necessary

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to wear a mask in public.

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Do you have any sense as to why

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that would be?

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No sense as to why that would be.

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That's the choice of the American public.

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It's the choice of the individual as to

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whether to wear a mask or not.

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But again, I'd praise the extraordinary work of

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this administration in distributing those masks and ensuring

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healthcare providers get them.

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The idea of shutting everybody down is a

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new idea that was developed in the 2006

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Bush administration provisional plan on pandemics based on

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a high school student's science project.

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So the idea that this is the way

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to go, shutting everything down, is not true.

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It's not scientifically true.

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It may be superior, but we don't know

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go back to masks and social distancing in

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the world, there will be no uptick in

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never happen.

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outbreaks, but the idea will be to isolate

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and contain those outbreaks.

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While this lockdown has been going on, I

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know from communications to me and Gaz and

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Jamie at davidite.com, I know from all

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the postings on the internet, not just in

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Britain, but around the world in America, that

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while this lockdown has been going on, 5G

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masks are being rolled out at a very

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rapid rate.

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like another 21 towns and cities have been

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opened in Britain to 5G.

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5G is being rolled out all over the

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world at a very great rate of knots.

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This is a time where everything is supposed

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part in COVID-19 then?

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Do you think that he should be held

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accountable or responsible or criminally responsible for the

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corruption with COVID-19 or even tracing back

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as far as 30 plus years?

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He should be held criminally responsible all the

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way back to the spread of HIV-AIDS

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through the country.

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thing he's doing now in COVID-19, that

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is, prevent the use of therapies like hydroxychloroquine

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or low-dose type 1 interferon alpha or

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any number of natural things, prevent people from

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doing the appropriate testing.

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The FDA didn't do the appropriate serology testing

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that would have shown that, in fact, the

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virus had been through this country earlier than

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thought and we may have actually had, in

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many places, a natural herd immunity that isn't

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occurring with the lockdown and that people are

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being prevented from, even if they were exposed,

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from getting the disease with prophylactic measures.

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That's preventative measures like hydroxychloroquine.

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And all the same time, promoting drug use

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in research and clinical trials, which he's also

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doing a similar thing to what he did,

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what he directed to be done in the

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case of the XMRVs.

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That's fraudulent studies that show that a drug

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works when it really doesn't work and how

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they manipulate the study design in order to

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drag it out.

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herd immunity, the amount of disease and death

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that's being caused while he's promoting measures that

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not only don't work but have caused literally

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the devastation of our economy and we won't

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even be able to count the number of

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deaths from people who couldn't get adequate care

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for things like cancer and cardiovascular disease, just

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simple care for things that have nothing to

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As we come on the air tonight, coronavirus

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infections are still growing in much of the

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country.

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Just as we're learning, there is now a

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more powerful mutant strain of the virus that

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is even more difficult to treat.

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There are now more than 20,000 new

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confirmed cases every day here in the United

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And while cases are declining in the New

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York City area, the epicenter of the crisis,

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elsewhere, the rate of infection is rising.

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Still, 44 states are moving forward with lifting

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restrictions.

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And tonight, President Trump is acknowledging those moves

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to reopen could lead to even more deaths,

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telling reporters today that Americans should, quote, think

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of themselves as warriors.

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COVID-19 remains a threat, but there's a

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drive to get out, to get back to

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normal.

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Well, AHS says there's now an app that

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could help.

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Providing this information voluntarily is crucial to our

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work to prevent the spread of COVID-19.

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Alberta Trace Together is the first contact tracing

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app available in North America.

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Every time users pass one another, their phones

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record the encounter using Bluetooth.

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Encrypted data will be stored on the phone.

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Now, if one of those users tests positive

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for COVID-19, the user can upload their

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interactions to AHS, and a contact tracer would

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call the numbers the phone registered, telling them

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to self-isolate.

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Like bringing a camera into focus, these techniques

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give us a far clearer picture that help

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us to inform our actions going forward.

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Now, the app stores only phone numbers, no

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locations.

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It doesn't use GPS.

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But tracking still raises privacy questions.

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Alberta's privacy commissioner says she has been involved

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and she supports enhanced contact tracing.

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In a statement, she adds, In my view,

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Alberta Health has chosen a less intrusive approach

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in deploying this app.

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President Trump is lashing out against a new

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advertisement by a Republican-led group called the

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Lincoln Project calling out his mismanagement of the

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coronavirus pandemic.

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The one-minute ad is titled, Morning in

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America.

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Spin on Ronald Reagan's 1984 campaign slogan.

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There's morning in America.

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And under the leadership of Donald Trump, our

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country is weaker and sicker and poorer.

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And now, Americans are asking, if we have

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another four years like this, will there even

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be an America?

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That morning in America ad spelled M-O

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-U-R-N-I-N-G.

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In a series of angry tweets posted just

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after midnight Tuesday morning, Trump attacked the makers

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of the ad, singling out George Conway, longtime

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Trump critic, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne

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Conway.

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Trump tweeted, I don't know what Kellyanne did

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to her deranged loser of a husband, Moonface,

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but it must have been really bad, Trump

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tweeted.

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CBS's Mola Lenghi is going to lead us

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off tonight in New York City.

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Mola?

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Well, Nora, while deaths in New York are

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down significantly from their peak just a few

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weeks ago, we're still losing more than 200

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people a day to this virus.

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So many that bodies are being stored in

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makeshift morgues, like those white refrigerator trucks that

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you see behind me there.

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And that is why there is so much

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hope in this experimental new vaccine that could

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be ready by this fall.

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Well, we certainly hope so.

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I want to put up a quote from

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Governor Cuomo in New York, which sort of

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had some surprising information in it.

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He said 66% of the people who

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were in new cases were at home, which

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is shocking to us.

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He said, this is a surprise.

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Overwhelmingly, the people were at home.

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We thought maybe they were taking public transportation

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and we've taken special precautions.

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But actually, no, these people were literally at

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home.

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66% of the new cases.

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How does that happen?

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Well, generally speaking, patients report, and this has

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been well established, better and safer behaviors than

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reality.

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So people report that they may be staying

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at home.

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But in fact, we know 600 people got

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the infection during pretty harsh sheltering conditions in

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the New York area.

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How did that happen?

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That means they got the infection during the

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extreme measures.

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So we know the drivers of this infection.

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We know what they are.

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They're mass gatherings.

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They're travel.

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They're people working in confined areas.

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They're people with direct contact.

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And we know that 20% of those

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admissions to the hospital were in nursing homes.

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We're seeing now in meatpacking areas, those that

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work in confined areas, especially with high-risk

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individuals.

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That is one of our major battles, is

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dealing with the outbreaks in these challenged areas.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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We'll talk to you again soon.

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Dr. Marta McCary, thank you very much.

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Good to have you here tonight.

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Right now in the United States, people should

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not be walking around with masks.

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You're sure of it?

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Because people are listening really closely to this.

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Right now, people should not be walking.

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There's no reason to be walking around with

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a mask.

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When you're in the middle of an outbreak,

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wearing a mask might make people feel a

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little bit better, and it might even block

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a droplet.

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But it's not providing the perfect protection that

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people think that it is.

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And often, there are unintended consequences.

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People keep fiddling with the mask, and they

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keep touching their face.

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And can you get some schmutz sort of

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staying inside there?

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Of course, of course.

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But when you think masks, you should think

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of health care providers needing them and people

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who are ill.

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And a 56-foot billboard called the Trump

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Death Clock has been unveiled in Times Square

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here in New York.

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The billboard was created by the Oscar-nominated

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filmmaker Eugene Cherecki.

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So the Trump Death Clock is a billboard

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that hangs over Times Square.

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And what it shows is an estimate of

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the number of U.S. COVID-19 deaths

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that resulted from the president and his team's

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failed response to the coronavirus outbreak.

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Thanks to Dr. Fauci and leading epidemiologists, we

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now know that had the mitigation guidelines been

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put into effect just one week earlier, on

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March 9th instead of March 16th, 60%

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of U.S. COVID-19 deaths would have

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been prevented.

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That's an incredible number.

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And on behalf of all those who needlessly

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lost their lives to this failed leadership in

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a pandemic, we need a symbol, a symbol

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that cries out not only for accountability, but

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also for more responsible and responsive stewardship going

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forward.

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At the time of this broadcast, the Trump

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Death Clock stands at 46,485 and growing.

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This is the New York City Police Department.

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Nonessential gatherings of any kind have been prohibited

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by the governor and the mayor.

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This gathering is unlawful, and you are ordered

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to disperse.

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If you fail to disperse immediately, you are

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subject to arrest.

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In my lifetime, this will be the greatest

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economic hit.

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But you don't have a choice.

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People act like you have a choice.

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People don't feel like going to the stadium

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when they might get infected.

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You know, it's not the government who's saying,

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okay, just ignore this disease.

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And, you know, people are deeply affected by

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seeing these deaths, by knowing they could be

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part of the transmission chain.

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And, you know, old people, their parents, their

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grandparents could be affected by this.

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And so you don't, you know, you don't

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get to say, ignore what's going on here.

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There will be the ability, particularly in rich

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countries, to open up if things are done

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well over the next few months.

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But for the world at large, normalcy only

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returns when we've largely vaccinated the entire global

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population.

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And so, you know, although there's a lot

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of work on testing, a lot of work

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on drugs that we're involved with, you know,

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trying to achieve that ambitious goal, which has

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never been done for the vaccine, that rises

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to the top of the list.

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All right, what do we got here?

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We've got, oh, look at this.

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Look closely at this.

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That's a restaurant that's using mannequins to fill

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out the half-empty dining room.

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What's the story behind this one, Ash?

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This is the Inn at Little Washington in

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Washington, Virginia.

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It's no ordinary restaurant.

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It's a Michelin three-star restaurant.

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To get a table here, it is very

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coveted.

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So rather than leave them open, the owners

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of the restaurant said, let's put in the

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mannequins.

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Very well-dressed, I may add.

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Three-piece suits, ties, hats, nice dresses for

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the ladies.

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The company is a little lifeless.

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But by the way, the tasting menu, tasting

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menu is 248 bucks.

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So I hope you get more than fried

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chicken and fish and chips.

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Yeah, I want a mannequin.

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That's what I want.

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On Capitol Hill, House Democratic leaders have unveiled

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a massive 1,800-page coronavirus relief package

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worth $3 trillion.

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The so-called HEROES Act would fund expanded

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unemployment benefits through January 2021, send most U

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.S. adults another one-time $1,200 stimulus

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check, and provide $1 trillion in assistance to

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hard-hit state, local, and tribal governments.

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It would also expand SNAP food benefits, fund

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hazard pay for frontline workers, increase funding for

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COVID-19 testing, and provide $25 billion in

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funding to the U.S. Postal Service.

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The bill would not expand Medicare to cover

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millions of newly uninsured Americans, nor does it

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provide for rent and mortgage relief or recurring

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cash payments to U.S. households.

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The bill would expand the Paycheck Protection Program

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to bail out corporate lobbyist firms.

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Climate activists say the bill also fails to

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close loopholes for big polluters.

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Greenpeace USA tweeted, quote, Fossil fuel CEOs will

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be rejoicing that Congress has once again left

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the door wide open for handouts to struggling,

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mismanaged oil and gas corporations.

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Do you agree that stimulus should move forward?

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There's been some Republicans who suggest that...

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I don't know.

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It depends.

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It's certainly not the package that I saw

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today.

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Basically, if you look at that package, what

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they want more than anything else is it's

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a voting package.

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They want to be able to make sure

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that Republicans can't win an election by putting

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in all sorts of mailing ballots.

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Now, that's the problem with mail-in ballots.

547
00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:22,760
Are they going to dump a whole pile

548
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,000
of ballots on your desk just before the

549
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:25,300
election?

550
00:21:25,460 --> 00:21:27,540
So the problem with the mail-in ballots,

551
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,580
it's subject to tremendous corruption.

552
00:21:31,380 --> 00:21:32,340
Tremendous corruption.

553
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,260
Cheating.

554
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,760
And so I'm against it.

555
00:21:35,820 --> 00:21:37,000
And if you look at the bill that

556
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,300
Nancy Pelosi is putting in, it has a

557
00:21:39,300 --> 00:21:40,380
lot to do with elections.

558
00:21:40,620 --> 00:21:43,300
And we're not going to lose elections because

559
00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:43,720
of that.

560
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,040
Tonight, the FBI and federal cybersecurity agents are

561
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,120
warning that hackers linked to the Chinese government

562
00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:53,460
are trying to steal research on coronavirus vaccines

563
00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:54,420
and therapies.

564
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,020
The FBI says the potential theft could jeopardize

565
00:21:58,020 --> 00:21:59,700
the treatment of patients here in the U

566
00:21:59,700 --> 00:22:03,060
.S. Here's CBS Chief Justice and Homeland Security

567
00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:04,500
correspondent Jeff Begay's.

568
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,660
While the coronavirus was sweeping across parts of

569
00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:10,920
China in January, U.S. officials say Chinese

570
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,540
hackers were already focused on the United States,

571
00:22:13,900 --> 00:22:16,740
trying to steal research from universities and pharmaceutical

572
00:22:16,740 --> 00:22:18,640
companies that were working on a cure.

573
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,440
John Demers is the assistant attorney general for

574
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,540
national security.

575
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,540
The Chinese for years have targeted biomedical research,

576
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,820
and there's nothing more important than COVID-19

577
00:22:28,820 --> 00:22:30,500
research right now in that field.

578
00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:33,520
The hacking charges ratcheted up tensions over the

579
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,200
virus between the U.S. and China.

580
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,860
What should have been stopped at the source,

581
00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:38,280
which was China.

582
00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:39,860
But it's not just China.

583
00:22:40,340 --> 00:22:42,340
Iran is also on the attack.

584
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,240
Researchers at the cybersecurity company Recorded Future say

585
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,200
the Iranian state targeted an executive at Gilead

586
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,540
Sciences, the manufacturer of the promising coronavirus treatment

587
00:22:53,540 --> 00:22:55,020
drug Remdesivir.

588
00:22:55,660 --> 00:22:58,500
But Demers said China is desperate to be

589
00:22:58,500 --> 00:22:59,640
first with the vaccine.

590
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,800
You call this a holy grail of information

591
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,580
that these foreign hackers are going after?

592
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,840
There's nothing more important right now than these

593
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,960
treatments, and perhaps most significantly for China for

594
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,000
geopolitical value to be able to say that

595
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,720
they were the first to develop a vaccine.

596
00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:20,860
Tonight in a statement, Chinese officials said the

597
00:23:20,860 --> 00:23:23,040
accusations were without evidence.

598
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,260
But U.S. officials say anyone working on

599
00:23:26,260 --> 00:23:28,540
a vaccine should be on hyper alert.

600
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,460
Margaret.

601
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,580
Yeah, go ahead, please.

602
00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:36,720
Many times that the U.S. is doing

603
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,800
far better than any other country when it

604
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,560
comes to testing.

605
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:40,920
Yes.

606
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,620
Why does that matter?

607
00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:44,980
Why is this a global competition to you

608
00:23:44,980 --> 00:23:47,720
if every day Americans are still losing their

609
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,640
lives and we're still seeing more cases every

610
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:50,960
day?

611
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,420
Well, they're losing their lives everywhere in the

612
00:23:53,420 --> 00:23:53,780
world.

613
00:23:54,180 --> 00:23:56,360
And maybe that's a question you should ask

614
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:56,860
China.

615
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,800
Don't ask me.

616
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,220
Ask China that question.

617
00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:02,160
OK, when you ask them that question, you

618
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,080
may get a very unusual answer.

619
00:24:04,180 --> 00:24:04,360
Yes.

620
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,160
Behind you, please.

621
00:24:08,770 --> 00:24:10,510
Sir, why are you saying that to me

622
00:24:10,510 --> 00:24:11,250
specifically?

623
00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:13,990
I'm telling you, I'm not saying it specifically

624
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:14,590
to anybody.

625
00:24:14,790 --> 00:24:16,110
I'm saying it to anybody who would ask

626
00:24:16,110 --> 00:24:17,350
a nasty question like that.

627
00:24:17,370 --> 00:24:18,150
That's not a nasty question.

628
00:24:18,150 --> 00:24:18,510
Please go ahead.

629
00:24:18,850 --> 00:24:19,750
Why does it matter?

630
00:24:20,110 --> 00:24:21,770
OK, anybody else?

631
00:24:22,050 --> 00:24:23,390
Please go ahead in the back, please.

632
00:24:23,690 --> 00:24:24,610
I have two questions.

633
00:24:24,610 --> 00:24:25,150
No, it's OK.

634
00:24:25,450 --> 00:24:26,430
But you pointed to me.

635
00:24:26,830 --> 00:24:28,050
I have two questions, Mr. President.

636
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:29,030
Next, please.

637
00:24:29,330 --> 00:24:30,630
You called on me.

638
00:24:31,450 --> 00:24:32,990
I did, and you didn't respond.

639
00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:35,510
And now I'm calling on the young lady

640
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:36,250
in the back, please.

641
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:37,710
I just wanted to let my colleague finish.

642
00:24:37,910 --> 00:24:40,050
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much.

643
00:24:40,050 --> 00:24:40,770
Appreciate it.

644
00:24:40,970 --> 00:24:41,750
Thank you very much.

645
00:24:42,890 --> 00:24:47,310
There's an approach called the RNA vaccine that

646
00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:51,690
people like Moderna, CureVac, and others are using,

647
00:24:52,110 --> 00:24:56,230
that in 2015, we'd identified that as very

648
00:24:56,230 --> 00:25:01,670
promising for pandemics and for other applications as

649
00:25:01,670 --> 00:25:01,950
well.

650
00:25:02,550 --> 00:25:06,430
And so if everything goes perfectly with the

651
00:25:06,430 --> 00:25:08,710
RNA approach, we could actually beat the 18

652
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:09,010
months.

653
00:25:09,010 --> 00:25:12,570
We don't want to create unrealistic expectations.

654
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:16,690
The efficacy of vaccines in older people is

655
00:25:16,690 --> 00:25:18,230
always a huge challenge.

656
00:25:18,570 --> 00:25:21,570
It turns out the flu vaccine isn't that

657
00:25:21,570 --> 00:25:22,870
effective in elderly people.

658
00:25:23,090 --> 00:25:25,050
Most of the benefit comes from younger people

659
00:25:25,050 --> 00:25:28,550
not spreading it because they're vaccinated.

660
00:25:29,150 --> 00:25:32,050
And that benefits, on a community basis, the

661
00:25:32,050 --> 00:25:32,430
elderly.

662
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:36,070
Here, we clearly need a vaccine that works

663
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:39,710
in the upper age range because they're most

664
00:25:39,710 --> 00:25:41,090
at risk of that.

665
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:43,770
And doing that so that you amp it

666
00:25:43,770 --> 00:25:45,570
up so it works in older people and

667
00:25:45,570 --> 00:25:48,010
yet you don't have side effects.

668
00:25:48,510 --> 00:25:52,330
If we have 1 in 10,000 side

669
00:25:52,330 --> 00:25:58,650
effects, that's way more, 700,000 people who

670
00:25:58,650 --> 00:25:59,690
will suffer from that.

671
00:25:59,970 --> 00:26:04,090
So really understanding the safety at gigantic scale

672
00:26:04,090 --> 00:26:09,610
across all age ranges, pregnant, male, female, undernourished,

673
00:26:09,930 --> 00:26:13,730
existing comorbidities, it's very, very hard.

674
00:26:13,910 --> 00:26:16,030
And that actual decision of, okay, let's go

675
00:26:16,030 --> 00:26:18,970
and give this vaccine to the entire world,

676
00:26:19,490 --> 00:26:22,390
governments will have to be involved because there

677
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:26,410
will be some risk and indemnification needed before

678
00:26:26,410 --> 00:26:28,550
that can be decided on.

679
00:26:29,010 --> 00:26:31,990
Taking on coronavirus in hard-hit communities of

680
00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:32,230
color.

681
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:34,790
Join Don Lemon and Van Jones with Dr.

682
00:26:34,850 --> 00:26:37,610
Regina Benjamin and Robert Smith, plus messages of

683
00:26:37,610 --> 00:26:39,190
hope from Mario Lopez, Samuel L.

684
00:26:39,290 --> 00:26:39,890
Jackson, and more.

685
00:26:40,250 --> 00:26:42,690
The Color of COVID, live tomorrow at 10

686
00:26:42,690 --> 00:26:43,510
on CNN.

687
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:45,450
And now on to the frauds.

688
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:48,790
Let's start with Pennsylvania Health Secretary Rachel Levine,

689
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:51,870
who weeks ago ordered nursing homes to admit

690
00:26:51,870 --> 00:26:53,530
COVID-positive patients.

691
00:26:54,510 --> 00:26:57,350
Well, while thousands of residents saw their loved

692
00:26:57,350 --> 00:27:00,950
ones and family members die, Levine quietly extracted

693
00:27:00,950 --> 00:27:04,110
her own mother out of harm's way, reportedly

694
00:27:04,110 --> 00:27:06,850
moving her from a nursing home to a

695
00:27:06,850 --> 00:27:07,330
hotel.

696
00:27:07,930 --> 00:27:10,090
My mother requested, and my sister and I

697
00:27:10,090 --> 00:27:12,110
as her children complied, to move her to

698
00:27:12,110 --> 00:27:15,090
another location during the COVID-19 outbreak.

699
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:17,190
My mother is 95 years old.

700
00:27:17,290 --> 00:27:20,310
She is very intelligent and more than competent

701
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:21,530
to make her own decisions.

702
00:27:22,390 --> 00:27:24,490
I'd rather have her mother be Health Secretary

703
00:27:24,490 --> 00:27:25,630
of Pennsylvania, frankly.

704
00:27:25,630 --> 00:27:28,710
Do you mean a fully approved vaccine for

705
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:31,690
everyone, the full public, or a partially approved

706
00:27:31,690 --> 00:27:33,270
vaccine with emergency use?

707
00:27:33,370 --> 00:27:35,650
No, we're looking for a full vaccine for

708
00:27:35,650 --> 00:27:37,590
everyone that wants to get it.

709
00:27:37,690 --> 00:27:39,110
Not everybody's going to want to get it.

710
00:27:39,690 --> 00:27:41,570
But we're looking at a full vaccine.

711
00:27:41,690 --> 00:27:42,530
Is that a correct statement?

712
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:43,150
Yeah, we'll...

713
00:27:44,490 --> 00:27:47,210
So the answer is yes, we're working for

714
00:27:47,210 --> 00:27:49,430
a fully approved vaccine, but we'll also use

715
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:50,290
the tools we have.

716
00:27:50,370 --> 00:27:53,930
For instance, emergency use authorization, as appropriate.

717
00:27:53,930 --> 00:27:56,250
We use all of our regulatory tools to

718
00:27:56,250 --> 00:27:59,730
bring vaccine available for the entire American population

719
00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:00,370
by January.

720
00:28:00,770 --> 00:28:02,350
Okay, and then Mr. President, can you just

721
00:28:02,350 --> 00:28:04,630
clarify, why are some of you wearing a

722
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:06,030
mask and why are some of you not

723
00:28:06,030 --> 00:28:06,770
wearing a mask?

724
00:28:07,330 --> 00:28:09,570
We've all been tested, I've been tested, we've

725
00:28:09,570 --> 00:28:11,990
all been tested, and we're quite a distance

726
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:14,350
away and we're outdoors, so I told them,

727
00:28:14,390 --> 00:28:15,810
I gave them the option, they could wear

728
00:28:15,810 --> 00:28:16,270
it or not.

729
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:17,890
So you can blame it on me, but

730
00:28:17,890 --> 00:28:19,250
I gave them the option, we could wear

731
00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:19,670
it or not.

732
00:28:19,810 --> 00:28:21,550
The President, and he said it again today,

733
00:28:21,790 --> 00:28:24,270
we need to move ahead, whether we're ready

734
00:28:24,270 --> 00:28:27,390
or not in the direction of opening up.

735
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:30,310
Yes, he did, Judy, and the President proves

736
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:33,830
once again, he's not actually strategic or tactical

737
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:37,130
in his political fights that he engages in.

738
00:28:37,890 --> 00:28:40,270
He's visceral, he's instinctive.

739
00:28:41,170 --> 00:28:42,910
You should always, if you're going after somebody

740
00:28:42,910 --> 00:28:45,590
politically, go after somebody who's a lot weaker

741
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:47,410
than you are politically or less popular.

742
00:28:47,850 --> 00:28:50,510
I mean, Democrats won five consecutive presidential elections

743
00:28:50,510 --> 00:28:54,270
running against Herbert Hoover because he was there

744
00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:56,150
in the Depression and unpopular as a Republican

745
00:28:56,150 --> 00:28:56,610
President.

746
00:28:57,050 --> 00:28:59,470
But he picked Anthony Fauci, Dr. Fauci.

747
00:29:00,110 --> 00:29:02,890
David mentioned he's been there since the Reagan

748
00:29:02,890 --> 00:29:05,910
years, but not only that, in a presidential

749
00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:08,850
debate when George H.W. Bush was asked

750
00:29:08,850 --> 00:29:11,630
to cite a contemporary American hero, he cited

751
00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:13,030
Dr. Anthony Fauci.

752
00:29:13,270 --> 00:29:15,710
The Food and Drug Administration halted a coronavirus

753
00:29:15,710 --> 00:29:18,970
testing program promoted by billionaire Bill Gates and

754
00:29:18,970 --> 00:29:20,930
Seattle health officials pending reviews.

755
00:29:21,490 --> 00:29:23,430
The program sought to send test kits to

756
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:25,530
the home of people both healthy and sick

757
00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:27,250
to try to bring the country to the

758
00:29:27,250 --> 00:29:29,810
level of testing officials say is necessary before

759
00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:31,690
states can begin safely reopening.

760
00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:34,550
The program, which has already gone through thousands

761
00:29:34,550 --> 00:29:36,970
of tests, found dozens of cases that had

762
00:29:36,970 --> 00:29:38,590
previously been undiagnosed.

763
00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:41,930
The Seattle Coronavirus Assessment Network said on its

764
00:29:41,930 --> 00:29:44,050
website that the FDA has asked it to

765
00:29:44,050 --> 00:29:47,070
pause testing while it receives additional authorizations, but

766
00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:48,930
maintained its procedures are safe.

767
00:29:49,170 --> 00:29:52,310
Every player, unless they're from the same household,

768
00:29:52,450 --> 00:29:55,010
has to bring their own tennis balls so

769
00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:57,630
that you don't touch other people's tennis balls

770
00:29:57,630 --> 00:29:59,450
with your hands.

771
00:29:59,550 --> 00:30:01,590
You can kick their balls, but you can't

772
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:02,250
touch them.

773
00:30:04,190 --> 00:30:05,190
I'm going to blush, sorry.

774
00:30:06,050 --> 00:30:09,850
Of course, if you're playing with someone in

775
00:30:09,850 --> 00:30:12,390
your household, you can't touch those tennis balls.

776
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:20,090
To avoid confusion between whose balls are whose,

777
00:30:20,170 --> 00:30:21,990
you can use a marker, like a Sharpie,

778
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:23,470
to mark out, to put an X, or

779
00:30:23,470 --> 00:30:24,670
put someone's initials on them.

780
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:27,230
The P4 lab at the Wuhan Institute of

781
00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:30,070
Virology has come under scrutiny as a potential

782
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:31,250
source of the virus.

783
00:30:31,250 --> 00:30:34,750
According to an NBC report, a hazardous event

784
00:30:34,750 --> 00:30:36,790
may have happened at the lab in October

785
00:30:36,790 --> 00:30:37,930
last year.

786
00:30:38,050 --> 00:30:40,710
Three people familiar with the matter told NBC

787
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:43,770
that U.S. intelligence agencies are reviewing an

788
00:30:43,770 --> 00:30:46,370
unofficial report on cell phone location data.

789
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:48,710
The report found there was no cell phone

790
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:50,910
activity around the high-security part of the

791
00:30:50,910 --> 00:30:54,650
P4 lab between October 7th and 24th last

792
00:30:54,650 --> 00:30:54,950
year.

793
00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:57,490
The report suggests there may have been a

794
00:30:57,490 --> 00:31:01,050
hazardous event there sometime between October 6th and

795
00:31:01,050 --> 00:31:03,530
11th that required the lab to be closed

796
00:31:03,530 --> 00:31:04,630
during that time.

797
00:31:05,290 --> 00:31:08,310
The report talks about images from October 14th

798
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:11,290
to 19th last year showing no outbound traffic

799
00:31:11,290 --> 00:31:12,050
from the lab.

800
00:31:12,430 --> 00:31:14,530
It suspected a roadblock was set up to

801
00:31:14,530 --> 00:31:16,970
prevent cars and people coming and going.

802
00:31:17,530 --> 00:31:19,970
This is in contrast to satellite images from

803
00:31:19,970 --> 00:31:22,770
August to October 6th, which show a lot

804
00:31:22,770 --> 00:31:23,390
of activity.

805
00:31:23,690 --> 00:31:25,990
The next instance of activity was on October

806
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:27,210
25th.

807
00:31:27,210 --> 00:31:30,370
U.S. Senator Tom Cotton also spoke about

808
00:31:30,370 --> 00:31:32,490
the data in an interview with Fox News.

809
00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:35,350
Cotton said normally thousands of mobile phones are

810
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:36,590
in use around this area.

811
00:31:37,210 --> 00:31:40,190
Wuhan has about the same population density as

812
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:40,810
New York.

813
00:31:41,250 --> 00:31:42,770
He adds the sudden drop in cell phone

814
00:31:42,770 --> 00:31:45,410
usage is likely an indicator of when the

815
00:31:45,410 --> 00:31:46,830
virus first began spreading.

816
00:31:47,390 --> 00:31:48,990
He said we could get to the bottom

817
00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:51,090
of it a lot faster if the Chinese

818
00:31:51,090 --> 00:31:52,650
regime was more transparent.

819
00:31:53,170 --> 00:31:55,870
U.S. intelligence officials say the evidence is

820
00:31:55,870 --> 00:31:57,250
not enough on its own.

821
00:31:57,570 --> 00:31:59,190
They are still investigating.

822
00:31:59,790 --> 00:32:01,470
I mean, there's a real possibility that the

823
00:32:01,470 --> 00:32:03,270
convention does not happen or it happens in

824
00:32:03,270 --> 00:32:04,250
a virtual sense.

825
00:32:04,430 --> 00:32:05,970
Is that correct as of today?

826
00:32:06,210 --> 00:32:08,430
Well, first of all, our convention has to

827
00:32:08,430 --> 00:32:12,210
happen because we are not officially nominating Joe

828
00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:14,210
Biden in order to take Donald Trump.

829
00:32:14,350 --> 00:32:15,730
So our convention is happening.

830
00:32:15,850 --> 00:32:17,430
There is business that has to happen.

831
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:20,830
Now, when it comes to what our convention

832
00:32:20,830 --> 00:32:23,190
is going to look like, I can guarantee

833
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:26,470
you that our convention will ensure that the

834
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:29,690
safety first, whether it is our delegates, the

835
00:32:29,690 --> 00:32:31,930
people of Milwaukee, or all of those involved

836
00:32:31,930 --> 00:32:34,350
in a convention, we will make sure that

837
00:32:34,350 --> 00:32:36,910
they are safe, whatever that looks like, and

838
00:32:36,910 --> 00:32:38,670
that they vote for our nominee.

839
00:32:38,890 --> 00:32:41,050
With summer right around the corner, New Jersey

840
00:32:41,050 --> 00:32:43,550
announced this week that beaches would be open

841
00:32:43,550 --> 00:32:46,090
by Memorial Day weekend with some restrictions.

842
00:32:46,650 --> 00:32:49,610
The openings are weeks behind other coastal states

843
00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:51,930
like Georgia and Florida, but as one of

844
00:32:51,930 --> 00:32:53,750
the states hardest hit by the COVID-19

845
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:57,490
pandemic, local officials say they are proceeding cautiously.

846
00:32:57,510 --> 00:33:00,050
At exactly 10 a.m. yesterday, barriers that

847
00:33:00,050 --> 00:33:02,050
had been blocking the boardwalk and beach in

848
00:33:02,050 --> 00:33:04,390
Seaside Heights, New Jersey, were pushed aside.

849
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:06,030
An announcement made it official.

850
00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:09,070
These beaches are now officially open.

851
00:33:09,610 --> 00:33:12,090
Once again, these beaches are now officially open.

852
00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:14,350
It's a sign that things are returning to

853
00:33:14,350 --> 00:33:17,530
normal in this quintessential Jersey Shore town, sort

854
00:33:17,530 --> 00:33:17,730
of.

855
00:33:17,730 --> 00:33:19,630
We're looking to see how we deal with

856
00:33:19,630 --> 00:33:21,590
the social distance, and that's going to be

857
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:22,470
our test today.

858
00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:24,570
Tony Voss is the mayor of Seaside Heights.

859
00:33:25,010 --> 00:33:27,070
After nearly two months of being closed because

860
00:33:27,070 --> 00:33:29,810
of COVID-19, visitors can now walk and

861
00:33:29,810 --> 00:33:32,510
ride bikes on the boardwalk, provided they heed

862
00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:34,590
the rule of six feet between groups of

863
00:33:34,590 --> 00:33:34,850
people.

864
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:38,330
On the beach, there's no swimming or sunbathing,

865
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:41,190
but the public can walk, fish, and even

866
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:41,570
surf.

867
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:44,030
Mayor Voss says it's just the first phase

868
00:33:44,030 --> 00:33:45,530
of Seaside Heights' reopening.

869
00:33:45,530 --> 00:33:48,530
I'm optimistic that this is a good first

870
00:33:48,530 --> 00:33:48,810
step.

871
00:33:49,250 --> 00:33:52,030
Obviously, I would love to see everything open.

872
00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:53,690
I would love to see a swimming and

873
00:33:53,690 --> 00:33:56,710
so forth, but we have to recognize that

874
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:58,150
we have to take this in steps.

875
00:33:58,750 --> 00:34:00,270
Seaside Heights is one of more than three

876
00:34:00,270 --> 00:34:03,250
dozen communities along the Jersey Shore grappling with

877
00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:04,410
how best to reopen.

878
00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:08,050
In neighboring Seaside Park, beaches are already open

879
00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:11,070
to sunbathers, provided beachgoers keep their distance.

880
00:34:11,469 --> 00:34:13,510
These are unprecedented times.

881
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:15,469
We know things are hard right now.

882
00:34:15,730 --> 00:34:17,330
You're stuck inside with nothing to do.

883
00:34:17,650 --> 00:34:19,110
You might be going out of your mind.

884
00:34:19,310 --> 00:34:21,449
Just wanting to do something.

885
00:34:21,690 --> 00:34:22,010
Anything.

886
00:34:22,510 --> 00:34:23,989
But now, more than ever.

887
00:34:24,210 --> 00:34:25,350
More than ever.

888
00:34:25,530 --> 00:34:26,730
More than ever.

889
00:34:26,949 --> 00:34:28,750
It's time to think about how your choices

890
00:34:28,750 --> 00:34:29,530
affect others.

891
00:34:30,070 --> 00:34:31,409
So please, please.

892
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:32,170
Please.

893
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:34,770
Don't start a podcast.

894
00:34:35,610 --> 00:34:36,850
Just don't do it.

895
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:37,550
Don't do it.

896
00:34:37,770 --> 00:34:39,710
You might feel like it's a productive use

897
00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:40,630
of your time right now.

898
00:34:40,630 --> 00:34:43,150
You've probably already got a USB mic and

899
00:34:43,150 --> 00:34:44,989
a spare room ready to go.

900
00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:47,330
And your mate Dave's got some interesting opinions.

901
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:48,810
But we're here to tell you.

902
00:34:49,210 --> 00:34:49,790
He doesn't.

903
00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:50,830
He really doesn't.

904
00:34:51,670 --> 00:34:52,449
He's a fuckwit.

905
00:34:52,810 --> 00:34:56,390
We don't need your true crime exclusive, which

906
00:34:56,390 --> 00:34:58,810
is just you reading Wikipedia articles to your

907
00:34:58,810 --> 00:34:59,230
housemate.

908
00:34:59,270 --> 00:35:01,470
We don't need your minute-by-minute breakdown

909
00:35:01,470 --> 00:35:03,110
of every episode of Parks and Rec.

910
00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:03,910
What are you going to do?

911
00:35:04,010 --> 00:35:05,890
Send everyone in your contact list a mail

912
00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:06,470
-chip newsletter?

913
00:35:06,750 --> 00:35:08,610
And force them to mark you as spam

914
00:35:08,610 --> 00:35:10,090
instead of unsubscribing?

915
00:35:10,090 --> 00:35:11,870
Because they're scared to hurt your feelings?

916
00:35:12,190 --> 00:35:13,710
We're in the middle of a pandemic!

917
00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:15,710
Look, it's pretty straightforward.

918
00:35:15,970 --> 00:35:16,730
Just don't start a podcast.

919
00:35:17,090 --> 00:35:19,790
Make some pasta from scratch like everyone else

920
00:35:19,790 --> 00:35:20,790
and just shut up.

921
00:35:21,050 --> 00:35:22,790
The greatest gift you can give your fellow

922
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:23,970
human beings right now.

923
00:35:24,090 --> 00:35:24,710
Right now.

924
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:25,690
Right now.

925
00:35:26,110 --> 00:35:27,370
Is to shut the fuck up.

926
00:35:27,570 --> 00:35:29,690
Shut the fuck up.

927
00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:30,750
Come on.

928
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:31,370
Do it.

929
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:33,390
Don't start a podcast.

930
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:41,840
What's your reaction to the president saying that

931
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,120
he's now taking hydroxychloroquine?

932
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:46,380
Are you concerned?

933
00:35:47,060 --> 00:35:48,880
Well, first let me say how happy I

934
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,060
am about your new baby.

935
00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:51,320
How lovely.

936
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,340
Oh, thank you.

937
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:53,380
Wyatt.

938
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:54,820
How perfectly named.

939
00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:57,100
We all know why that is.

940
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,300
And congratulations.

941
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,480
And as you now are a father, you

942
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,400
see how important it is to keep the

943
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,340
world safe for the children.

944
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:06,380
For the children.

945
00:36:06,380 --> 00:36:12,400
As far as the president is concerned, he's

946
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,040
our president.

947
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,080
And I would rather he not be taking

948
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,380
something that has not been approved by the

949
00:36:18,380 --> 00:36:22,060
scientists, especially in his age group and in

950
00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:24,060
his, shall we say, weight group.

951
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,580
What is morbidly obese, they say.

952
00:36:26,780 --> 00:36:30,720
So I think it's not a good idea.

953
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,540
Does this make medical sense?

954
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,560
Yes.

955
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Listen, people have got to separate politics from

956
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,120
the practice of medicine.

957
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:40,260
He everything he said was absolutely accurate.

958
00:36:40,420 --> 00:36:42,100
It has been around for 40 years.

959
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,920
It's been prescribed hundreds of millions of times

960
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,640
for malaria.

961
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,740
I personally have prescribed it hundreds of times

962
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:51,120
for malaria, hundreds of times for rheumatic diseases.

963
00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:54,100
I've never seen one adverse side effect.

964
00:36:54,180 --> 00:36:55,820
I can't say that of Tylenol.

965
00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:57,500
I can't say that of aspirin.

966
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,820
Now, every medication has risk.

967
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:00,860
That's just the way it is.

968
00:37:00,860 --> 00:37:04,160
But in a otherwise healthy person with maybe

969
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,240
a rheumatic condition or to prevent malaria, it's

970
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:08,540
a very safe medication.

971
00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:10,800
Do not confuse it with chloroquine.

972
00:37:10,940 --> 00:37:13,340
That's different than hydroxychloroquine.

973
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,680
Different medicines.

974
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:16,540
So the FDA put out a warning about

975
00:37:16,540 --> 00:37:19,100
both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine.

976
00:37:19,220 --> 00:37:22,320
They said this morning in April that it

977
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,020
can cause dangerous abnormality in heart rhythm and

978
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:25,980
virus patients.

979
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,460
Said about both of them.

980
00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:30,480
And that only in hospitals should it be

981
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,040
used and in clinical trials.

982
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:33,720
This is not being used in a hospital

983
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:35,280
and not being used as a clinical trial.

984
00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:37,600
That's the FDA standard.

985
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,080
Doctors are entitled to do anything they want

986
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,980
with a medication.

987
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,380
They take on a certain degree of liability.

988
00:37:44,580 --> 00:37:46,640
They do when they do that different than

989
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,860
when something is FDA approved.

990
00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:52,260
We use off label medication all the time.

991
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,880
Some of our more common prescribing is off

992
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,520
label, not FDA approved.

993
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,220
Now this is for not a hospital setting,

994
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,640
not a COVID setting.

995
00:38:00,940 --> 00:38:02,980
It's being used for prophylaxis.

996
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,300
Doctors take it themselves for prophylaxis.

997
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,460
They prescribe it for patients for prophylaxis.

998
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,320
But the FDA says that there's no evidence

999
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,940
that that works.

1000
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,360
No, because that study's not been done yet.

1001
00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:14,480
They're talking about the treatment of COVID.

1002
00:38:14,940 --> 00:38:16,540
In the treatment of COVID.

1003
00:38:16,540 --> 00:38:18,940
No, preventatively, there's no study that shows that

1004
00:38:18,940 --> 00:38:19,680
that works.

1005
00:38:20,140 --> 00:38:22,620
The president is doing this to prevent, unless

1006
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:25,480
he's had coronavirus and he's lying about it.

1007
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,510
Doctors can prescribe it prophylactically.

1008
00:38:28,220 --> 00:38:29,740
I know many doctors are doing it.

1009
00:38:29,820 --> 00:38:31,240
I know many doctors that are taking it

1010
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:33,560
themselves, because there's some evidence that it might

1011
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,760
be prophylactic and it is so safe.

1012
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,380
So they feel like rather than do nothing,

1013
00:38:38,740 --> 00:38:42,480
they'd rather do the hydroxychloroquine, not the chloroquine,

1014
00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:44,380
which does have cardiac side effects.

1015
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,980
Look, the studies on hydroxychloroquine and the cardiac

1016
00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:50,080
effects have yet to be washed out.

1017
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,600
Exploring the unintended consequences of a safety-first

1018
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,620
culture through the lens of a quarantine was,

1019
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,540
to me, a really interesting rumination.

1020
00:38:59,940 --> 00:39:02,940
Because we can be a safety-first country,

1021
00:39:03,020 --> 00:39:05,020
but only for very, very, very short periods

1022
00:39:05,020 --> 00:39:05,640
of time.

1023
00:39:06,140 --> 00:39:10,900
And then we're reminded that the chief goal

1024
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:13,620
of living is not to merely stay alive.

1025
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,280
At least not for most people.

1026
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:18,580
And then this fascinating conversation starts to unfold.

1027
00:39:18,580 --> 00:39:20,820
So that's a long way of saying that

1028
00:39:20,820 --> 00:39:23,780
for the last 60 days or so, I've

1029
00:39:23,780 --> 00:39:28,220
seen a lot, a lot of conversation right

1030
00:39:28,220 --> 00:39:30,080
around a couple topics that I love.

1031
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:35,560
Specifically, homeostatic risk, compensatory risk, risk equilibrium, and

1032
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,440
all the subconscious things we do to maintain

1033
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,140
our own illusory relationship with the illusion of

1034
00:39:43,140 --> 00:39:43,540
safety.

1035
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,420
I mean, did you change your mind on

1036
00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:46,020
herd immunity?

1037
00:39:47,620 --> 00:39:48,200
No.

1038
00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:51,000
I don't know what you mean by that.

1039
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:53,020
Herd immunity is just a thing.

1040
00:39:54,100 --> 00:40:00,100
Herd immunity or population immunity is what, you

1041
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:01,020
know...

1042
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,220
But for a period in March, the government

1043
00:40:04,220 --> 00:40:07,840
appeared to be pursuing a strategy of mitigating

1044
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,120
the spread of the virus, allowing Cheltenham races,

1045
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,900
for example, to go ahead between March the

1046
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:14,940
10th and March the 13th, allowing it to

1047
00:40:14,940 --> 00:40:17,720
spread naturally, to allow the development of some

1048
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:18,620
herd immunity.

1049
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,660
Was that a mistake?

1050
00:40:21,820 --> 00:40:22,520
I don't know.

1051
00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:25,680
I'm not quite sure whether that really was

1052
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,220
the strategy.

1053
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,640
I think that at the time, it was

1054
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:30,860
difficult to imagine.

1055
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:38,280
I mean, we weren't sure by what levels

1056
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,520
of compliance with various social distance measures were

1057
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:41,960
possible.

1058
00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:45,200
Was that why you didn't model full lockdown

1059
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,880
until the middle of March?

1060
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,380
I think it was very hard.

1061
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:51,300
I don't think anybody looked at it.

1062
00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:52,980
It wasn't just myself.

1063
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:54,580
I don't think anybody...

1064
00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:56,400
I mean, we all looked at a range

1065
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,380
of different measures, some of which were very

1066
00:40:58,380 --> 00:40:59,000
stringent.

1067
00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:03,620
But it was, you know, it's difficult to

1068
00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:05,140
say, you know...

1069
00:41:05,140 --> 00:41:07,960
But it was difficult to imagine just how...

1070
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,120
In some sense, it was difficult to imagine

1071
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,180
just how easy the lockdown was, if you

1072
00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:12,680
see what I mean.

1073
00:41:13,140 --> 00:41:15,880
You see two families who've suffered losses inside

1074
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,120
nursing homes, and they're looking for accountability, and

1075
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,340
they'd like to see justice.

1076
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,100
For example, I've recently interviewed a family of

1077
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:24,660
three siblings.

1078
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,540
They've had two nursing home losses within a

1079
00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:29,680
few weeks of one another on two separate

1080
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,720
floors in the same facility here in Albany.

1081
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,360
They felt so much solace when you got

1082
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,060
up and talked about Matilda's loss.

1083
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:37,700
They said, great, we're protected.

1084
00:41:38,020 --> 00:41:39,400
Like, our loved ones are going to be

1085
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,320
okay because of Matilda's loss.

1086
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,280
And then their loved ones passed away because

1087
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,520
they couldn't get the testing.

1088
00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:47,860
So they're looking for accountability, and they feel

1089
00:41:47,860 --> 00:41:48,740
that they were failed.

1090
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,800
What's the comment to that?

1091
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,320
Yeah, the comment is this.

1092
00:41:52,620 --> 00:41:54,680
And I have those conversations all day long

1093
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,280
with people who have lost people, right?

1094
00:41:56,820 --> 00:42:01,740
We lost 139 people yesterday in hospitals.

1095
00:42:02,740 --> 00:42:06,720
Who is accountable for those 139 deaths?

1096
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,740
How do we get justice for those families

1097
00:42:10,740 --> 00:42:12,960
who had 139 deaths?

1098
00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:13,900
What is justice?

1099
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:17,940
Who can we prosecute for those deaths?

1100
00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:19,580
Nobody.

1101
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,120
Nobody.

1102
00:42:22,220 --> 00:42:26,220
Mother Nature, God, where did this virus come

1103
00:42:26,220 --> 00:42:26,460
from?

1104
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,400
People are going to die by this virus.

1105
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,920
That is the truth.

1106
00:42:32,660 --> 00:42:37,200
Older people, vulnerable people are going to die

1107
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,460
from this virus.

1108
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:40,800
That is going to happen.

1109
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:43,140
Despite whatever you do.

1110
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,660
Because with all our progress as a society,

1111
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,140
we can't keep everyone alive.

1112
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,460
Despite what everything you do.

1113
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,940
And older people are more vulnerable.

1114
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:01,120
And that is a fact.

1115
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,060
And that is not going to change.

1116
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:09,420
And look, to me, the really difficult conversations

1117
00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:13,760
for me are my son was 40 years

1118
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,160
old.

1119
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:16,640
He was not a senior citizen.

1120
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:18,420
Did not have a comorbidity.

1121
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,600
And got this virus because he was an

1122
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,840
essential worker and doing the right thing.

1123
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,160
And had an aneurysm.

1124
00:43:28,420 --> 00:43:30,760
I thought young people were fine.

1125
00:43:31,780 --> 00:43:33,360
And he was doing the right thing as

1126
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,200
an essential worker.

1127
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:42,420
There's a randomness to this virus that is

1128
00:43:42,420 --> 00:43:43,580
inexplicable.

1129
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:46,120
Just everything we possibly can to make sure

1130
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,720
people have a good time, but it's safe.

1131
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,840
Kelly Jones is a manager at the Palazzo

1132
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,520
Gentlemen's Club in South Austin.

1133
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,940
He says their employees, along with dancers and

1134
00:43:55,940 --> 00:43:58,140
entertainers in the industry, have had it tough.

1135
00:43:58,220 --> 00:43:58,980
A lot of people don't know that our

1136
00:43:58,980 --> 00:44:01,660
entertainers are actually independent contractors, much like hairdressers.

1137
00:44:02,140 --> 00:44:03,940
So they had a lot of issues collecting

1138
00:44:03,940 --> 00:44:04,400
unemployment.

1139
00:44:04,660 --> 00:44:06,240
They work on cash tips, like a lot

1140
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,300
of other people in the service industry.

1141
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,060
So they're struggling as well.

1142
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,160
A lot of them have families and kids.

1143
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,360
They're trying to make sure that they have

1144
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,800
arrangements for childcare, for putting food on the

1145
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,080
table.

1146
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,660
And now they'll be back to work Friday.

1147
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:17,640
But with a long list of safety protocols

1148
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,680
in effect, that includes how many people can

1149
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,720
get into this building.

1150
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,860
Which normally holds close to 300 people.

1151
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:24,340
We're going to have to cut that down

1152
00:44:24,340 --> 00:44:26,300
to comply with the governor's order of 25

1153
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:27,140
percent capacity.

1154
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,820
Going to be back to the old days

1155
00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:31,560
with hand clickers, making sure what our capacity

1156
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:31,960
is.

1157
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,700
We're going to have to have barriers around

1158
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:35,860
our stages so that our customers have social

1159
00:44:35,860 --> 00:44:37,120
distancing from the entertainers.

1160
00:44:37,820 --> 00:44:39,800
As far as private dances go, they're going

1161
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,400
to have to maintain that six-foot division

1162
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:42,960
between them.

1163
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,880
But of course, they're also a bar and

1164
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:45,480
serve food.

1165
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,780
We're going to have to go to plasticware

1166
00:44:46,780 --> 00:44:48,500
instead of nice metal knives and forks.

1167
00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:51,000
Paper napkins, place mats, plastic cups.

1168
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,160
Bartenders and our staff are going to make

1169
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,640
sure that we follow hand washing policies.

1170
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,760
Our employees definitely are wearing masks.

1171
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,600
Including the entertainers.

1172
00:44:58,100 --> 00:44:59,800
So we're encouraging them to be creative, find

1173
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,060
something they like that maybe goes with their

1174
00:45:01,060 --> 00:45:01,380
outfits.

1175
00:45:01,580 --> 00:45:04,100
And they'll also have employees specifically designated for

1176
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:05,460
constantly cleaning the place.

1177
00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:07,160
And while it won't be a full house

1178
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,280
inside by any means, they're just glad to

1179
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,480
get business moving again.

1180
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,040
Aside from the fact that most believe that

1181
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,480
this president has botched this crisis from the

1182
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,000
get-go.

1183
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,980
And this will be known in history worldwide

1184
00:45:21,980 --> 00:45:25,000
as a human catastrophe that he could have

1185
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:25,320
prevented.

1186
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:28,840
And he's trying to deflect at all times.

1187
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,800
And Willie and Mike, he's tweeting again all

1188
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,000
sorts of crazy things.

1189
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,120
Once again, tweeting conspiracy theories about Joe, falsely

1190
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,180
accusing him of murder.

1191
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,460
Talking about the death of a young staffer

1192
00:45:42,460 --> 00:45:44,500
in his congressional office years ago.

1193
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:48,160
And calling him dangerous to walk the streets.

1194
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:50,040
And I'll just say, I'll take a point

1195
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,440
of personal privilege here.

1196
00:45:51,980 --> 00:45:52,760
That's sick.

1197
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,520
Donald, you're a sick person.

1198
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,880
You're a sick person.

1199
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,920
To put this family through this.

1200
00:45:59,420 --> 00:46:01,120
To put her husband through this.

1201
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,960
To do this just because you're mad at

1202
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,160
Joe because Joe got you again today.

1203
00:46:05,540 --> 00:46:07,220
Because he speaks the truth.

1204
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,380
And he speaks plainly about your lack of

1205
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:12,280
interest and empathy in others.

1206
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,860
And your lack of ability to handle this

1207
00:46:14,860 --> 00:46:16,420
massive human catastrophe.

1208
00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:17,980
The fact that you've made it worse.

1209
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,940
And that you make it worse every day.

1210
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:22,000
And that you won't even wear a mask

1211
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,320
to protect people from your germs.

1212
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:27,100
But the germs you're spreading on Twitter.

1213
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,420
First of all, Twitter, you shouldn't be allowing

1214
00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:29,840
this.

1215
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,760
And you should be taking these tweets down.

1216
00:46:32,140 --> 00:46:33,960
And you should be ashamed of yourself.

1217
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,080
You'll be hearing from me on this.

1218
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,360
Because this is BS.

1219
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:39,560
But Donald, you're a sick person.

1220
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,900
You're really a cruel, sick, disgusting person.

1221
00:46:44,260 --> 00:46:46,100
And you can keep tweeting about Joe, but

1222
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:47,420
you're just hurting other people.

1223
00:46:47,980 --> 00:46:50,060
And of course, you're hurting yourself.

1224
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Willie, why don't you take final thoughts.

1225
00:46:52,180 --> 00:46:52,580
I'm done.

1226
00:46:52,580 --> 00:46:55,840
A professor at Case Western Reserve University in

1227
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,880
Cleveland has been arrested over his alleged financial

1228
00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,800
ties to China.

1229
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:02,280
This just days after the FBI sounded the

1230
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,460
alarm on China's attempts to steal coronavirus research.

1231
00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:07,920
A professor at the University of Arkansas was

1232
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,760
arrested on similar charges last week.

1233
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,040
And then in January, Harvard's chemistry chief was

1234
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,480
charged with failing to disclose that he, too,

1235
00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:18,360
was being paid by the Chinese Communist Party.

1236
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,720
Two weeks ago, Senator Tom Cotton told us

1237
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,920
that the CCP was trying in many ways

1238
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,300
to steal medical data from the United States

1239
00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:26,880
to try and come up with a vaccine

1240
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,560
for COVID-19 before the United States.

1241
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,800
After several weeks of being stuck inside, thousands

1242
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,240
have flocked here to Bolivar Peninsula to make

1243
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:36,980
the most of their time while out.

1244
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,240
I've been in quarantine, and I need to

1245
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:40,380
get out and party.

1246
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,420
Go Topper's Jeep Weekend.

1247
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,420
What's better than beach and a few drinks

1248
00:47:45,420 --> 00:47:45,960
and Jeeps?

1249
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:47,120
Man, I can't get any better than that.

1250
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,020
In full swing at beaches on Bolivar Peninsula.

1251
00:47:51,860 --> 00:47:53,980
This event comes at a time where beaches

1252
00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:57,080
across the state are reopening following the coronavirus

1253
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,840
pandemic.

1254
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,400
And beachgoers like Chelsea Collier are still taking

1255
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,120
precautions to stay safe.

1256
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:06,520
Wash them hands for 20 seconds and keep

1257
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,480
them clean with their Germ-X.

1258
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:09,200
Totally.

1259
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,560
Come down and have a good time.

1260
00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:12,480
You have a good time, there's no issues.

1261
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,400
But when you start acting silly, like the

1262
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,760
sheriff said on a previous interview, we've got

1263
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:18,820
a jail that's got a whole lot of

1264
00:48:18,820 --> 00:48:19,360
empty holes.

1265
00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:21,560
The sheriff's office have made at least 63

1266
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,540
arrests so far in connection to Jeep Weekend.

1267
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,800
As for the enforcement of social distancing, they

1268
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,420
say it's challenging to enforce.

1269
00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:31,000
I mean, you can't.

1270
00:48:31,340 --> 00:48:35,200
It's just, it's not possible to do that

1271
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,780
on this beach with the amount of people

1272
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:37,580
that we have here.

1273
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:39,920
It's just, we can't do that.

1274
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,820
The additional presence of law enforcement has been

1275
00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:46,060
a welcoming sight for beachgoers, given the history

1276
00:48:46,060 --> 00:48:47,260
of this event.

1277
00:48:47,540 --> 00:48:50,600
May 5th, we announced a wear a mask

1278
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,920
in public campaign.

1279
00:48:52,660 --> 00:48:55,860
And we asked people to submit videos that,

1280
00:48:56,140 --> 00:48:58,540
and we would pick the winner by vote

1281
00:48:58,540 --> 00:49:01,200
of the people.

1282
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,860
And the winner would become a public service

1283
00:49:03,860 --> 00:49:04,300
announcement.

1284
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:07,320
We had over 600 submissions.

1285
00:49:08,060 --> 00:49:09,220
Isn't that amazing?

1286
00:49:09,980 --> 00:49:13,040
The competition is still open, and we're going

1287
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,420
to show you now five of the runner

1288
00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:16,800
-ups.

1289
00:49:17,780 --> 00:49:20,380
United we stand, and divided we fall.

1290
00:49:20,860 --> 00:49:22,780
We mask up not just to obey the

1291
00:49:22,780 --> 00:49:24,640
law, but to obey the laws of nature.

1292
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,300
We hope for immunity in our community.

1293
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:29,780
We pray for normality in this calamity.

1294
00:49:29,780 --> 00:49:31,180
We want hope.

1295
00:49:31,740 --> 00:49:33,480
I mask up not because I fear getting

1296
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,640
sick, but because I fear getting you sick.

1297
00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:38,280
I mask up because days, weeks, or months

1298
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,380
of hot breath and acne bumps is better

1299
00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:42,560
than knowing my wife will soon have to

1300
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,740
raise a fatherless son.

1301
00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:45,600
Mask up.

1302
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,240
Senator, also, I think you know that this

1303
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:52,260
whole thing started in Wuhan.

1304
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,340
And you know that many people call this

1305
00:49:55,340 --> 00:49:57,620
the Wuhan virus or the Chinese virus.

1306
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,620
Kamala Harris has had enough.

1307
00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:01,600
She has a resolution that's going to work

1308
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,900
its way through the Senate to ban the

1309
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:05,160
phrase Wuhan virus.

1310
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,660
And she calls it anti-Asian.

1311
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,220
Your feeling on this?

1312
00:50:10,980 --> 00:50:12,920
Well, I object to that resolution, Brian.

1313
00:50:13,020 --> 00:50:14,520
First off, Wuhan is just a city.

1314
00:50:14,660 --> 00:50:15,880
It's not even a people.

1315
00:50:16,780 --> 00:50:19,140
I guess she's going to have to call

1316
00:50:19,140 --> 00:50:21,500
out Lyme disease for being anti-Connecticut, or

1317
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:24,400
maybe Legionnaire's disease for being anti-veteran, Zika,

1318
00:50:25,020 --> 00:50:26,700
since Zika is a forest in Africa.

1319
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:30,480
But this political correctness run amok covers a

1320
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,560
more serious point.

1321
00:50:31,660 --> 00:50:34,140
The Democrats want to wave their arms and

1322
00:50:34,140 --> 00:50:36,260
say that this is racist or xenophobic.

1323
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,400
And that's because they don't have an answer

1324
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,020
for China's rise and the threat that China

1325
00:50:42,020 --> 00:50:42,940
poses to us.

1326
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:44,640
Joe Biden, as we said, has been weak

1327
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,960
on China for 30 years.

1328
00:50:46,140 --> 00:50:48,580
So they want to have politically correct distractions

1329
00:50:48,580 --> 00:50:51,780
to distract people from his terrible record on

1330
00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:52,080
China.

1331
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:53,280
We can't let that happen.

1332
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,940
Would requiring masks across the board help?

1333
00:50:57,020 --> 00:50:58,640
Is that even, is that feasible?

1334
00:50:59,340 --> 00:51:00,900
Craig, I'm going to say this for the

1335
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:01,960
benefit of your family.

1336
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:03,700
I know you have young kids from my

1337
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:05,080
family and for all Americans.

1338
00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:07,920
We should make masks mandatory in public.

1339
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,140
Just like we ban indoor smoking because you

1340
00:51:11,140 --> 00:51:11,460
know what?

1341
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,220
Nobody should, you shouldn't have to breathe somebody

1342
00:51:13,220 --> 00:51:14,400
else's that can't smoke.

1343
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,860
I shouldn't have to breathe exhaled COVID-19

1344
00:51:16,860 --> 00:51:17,840
in somebody's breath.

1345
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:18,900
Nobody should.

1346
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:22,760
And so we should institute mandatory masks in

1347
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,940
public when you can't guarantee social distancing.

1348
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:26,400
That means retail stores.

1349
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,760
That means public transportation, workplaces.

1350
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,540
That's absolutely where we should be headed.

1351
00:51:30,820 --> 00:51:33,100
Makes no sense why we're not already there.

1352
00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:34,160
We're encouraging it.

1353
00:51:34,420 --> 00:51:35,760
People are flouting the rules.

1354
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,760
A security guard at a retail outlet in

1355
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,000
Michigan died trying to encourage a customer to

1356
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,660
wear a mask.

1357
00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:45,820
They shot him because they didn't like the

1358
00:51:45,820 --> 00:51:47,380
way in which it was trying to be

1359
00:51:47,380 --> 00:51:48,340
enforced, that policy.

1360
00:51:48,340 --> 00:51:51,500
We need to not put the onus on

1361
00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:54,640
security guards at local outlets to enforce this

1362
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,500
policy or to encourage Americans to abide by

1363
00:51:57,500 --> 00:51:57,660
it.

1364
00:51:57,740 --> 00:51:59,340
It's all in our best interest that we

1365
00:51:59,340 --> 00:52:00,120
wear masks.

1366
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,680
The evidence is overwhelming.

1367
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,200
We just need governors to do their job.

1368
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,800
The idea of a bioterrorist attack is kind

1369
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,920
of the nightmare scenario because they're a pathogen

1370
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,320
with a high death rate would be picked.

1371
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,160
Now, the good news is I'm not trying

1372
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:14,980
to depress you.

1373
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,320
It's tough enough right now.

1374
00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:19,460
Most of the work we're going to do

1375
00:52:19,460 --> 00:52:22,880
to be ready for pandemic two, I call

1376
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:23,940
this pandemic one.

1377
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:25,620
Most of the work we'll do to be

1378
00:52:25,620 --> 00:52:27,680
ready for that are also the things we

1379
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,880
need to do to minimize the threat of

1380
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:31,960
bioterrorism.

1381
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,960
You panicked about the market, panicked about COVID,

1382
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,760
panicked about the ventilators, panicked about the PPE,

1383
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,660
panicked about ever going out again, panicked if

1384
00:52:40,660 --> 00:52:42,080
we ever get back to normal.

1385
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,780
Joseph, you didn't panic about anything.

1386
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:44,720
What good is it?

1387
00:52:44,740 --> 00:52:47,940
Why not help people keep their head?

1388
00:52:48,340 --> 00:52:51,680
A hundred thousand people died, Joe, and all

1389
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,420
you did was try to help your friend,

1390
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:53,920
the president.

1391
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,560
That's what you did every single morning on

1392
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:58,040
this show.

1393
00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:01,460
Every single morning on this show, you abused

1394
00:53:01,460 --> 00:53:02,900
your position, Joe.

1395
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,100
I'm trying to help investors keep their cool,

1396
00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:08,140
keep their heads.

1397
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,720
And as it turned out, that's what they

1398
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:11,620
should have done.

1399
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,440
That's what they should have done.

1400
00:53:13,700 --> 00:53:15,240
They should have kept their heads.

1401
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:17,560
If they had listened to you, Andrew, we're

1402
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:18,460
supposed to be at about 8,000.

1403
00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:20,660
I wasn't arguing to go sell your stocks,

1404
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,020
Joseph.

1405
00:53:21,380 --> 00:53:23,220
I was arguing about people's lives.

1406
00:53:23,380 --> 00:53:23,980
We understand.

1407
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:24,960
People's lives.

1408
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,820
Andrew, it's a global pandemic.

1409
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:27,380
Do the news.

1410
00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:28,840
I'm begging you to do the news.

1411
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,240
It's a global pandemic.

1412
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:31,500
I'm begging you, please.

1413
00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:41,640
Greetings.

1414
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,300
My name is Dr. Tony Fauci, and I

1415
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:46,700
am here to present some good news at

1416
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:48,820
a time of great stress as we struggle

1417
00:53:48,820 --> 00:53:51,520
to contain the COVID-19 outbreak.

1418
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,840
I'm excited about the opportunity to shine some

1419
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,100
light on one of the many young people

1420
00:53:57,100 --> 00:53:59,280
who have stepped up and helped us throughout

1421
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,400
this difficult time.

1422
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,600
The 24th annual Webby Awards will honor Avi

1423
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,340
Schiffman as the 2020 Person of the Year

1424
00:54:07,340 --> 00:54:12,300
in recognition of his creation of ncov2019.live

1425
00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:15,800
to track the spread of COVID-19 across

1426
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:16,480
the world.

1427
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,480
As we collectively navigate the severe impact of

1428
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,340
COVID-19, including the difficult but critical calls

1429
00:54:24,340 --> 00:54:28,380
for nationwide social distancing, the Internet has become

1430
00:54:28,380 --> 00:54:31,620
the lifeblood of people looking for accurate information

1431
00:54:31,620 --> 00:54:35,320
about the novel coronavirus and the necessary steps

1432
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,160
to combat it.

1433
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,560
Since launching the site on December 29th, Schiffman's

1434
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,140
tracking tool has been an invaluable resource that

1435
00:54:44,140 --> 00:54:46,460
sounded the alarm on the virus and its

1436
00:54:46,460 --> 00:54:50,520
spread, notably calling attention to its severity long

1437
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,420
before it was broadly recognized.

1438
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:55,260
At a time when the spread of misinformation

1439
00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:58,920
can be so detrimental to our efforts, the

1440
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,400
site has provided over 600 million visitors with

1441
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,820
accurate real-time data.

1442
00:55:03,820 --> 00:55:07,620
Schiffman has helped people around the globe understand

1443
00:55:07,620 --> 00:55:11,680
COVID-19 and the necessity to upgrade current

1444
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,300
healthcare systems and the importance of measures to

1445
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:16,360
flatten the curve.

1446
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,620
For having the foresight to track the global

1447
00:55:19,620 --> 00:55:23,440
spread of COVID-19 and for creating an

1448
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,360
essential website to provide real-time data about

1449
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,980
the virus to people everywhere, it is my

1450
00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:33,340
great privilege to honor Avi Schiffman as the

1451
00:55:33,340 --> 00:55:36,120
2020 Webby Person of the Year.

1452
00:55:36,220 --> 00:55:38,920
The president will sign an executive order concerning

1453
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,980
social media as he escalates his feud with

1454
00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:42,360
Twitter.

1455
00:55:42,940 --> 00:55:43,820
Here's Peter Alexander.

1456
00:55:43,820 --> 00:55:46,820
Ahead of today's scrubbed launch, President Trump touring

1457
00:55:46,820 --> 00:55:49,660
NASA's campus striking an uplifting note.

1458
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,780
It's a great achievement for our country and

1459
00:55:51,780 --> 00:55:52,940
our country's number one.

1460
00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:55,600
Members of the president's family traveling with him

1461
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:56,520
wearing masks.

1462
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,940
The first lady earlier seen wearing her mask

1463
00:55:58,940 --> 00:55:59,880
aboard Marine One.

1464
00:56:00,580 --> 00:56:02,580
Their visit coming the very day the country

1465
00:56:02,580 --> 00:56:06,080
marks that tragic milestone, 100,000 lives lost

1466
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:06,700
to the coronavirus.

1467
00:56:07,460 --> 00:56:09,420
And today the president hosted New York Governor

1468
00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:11,200
Andrew Cuomo at the White House.

1469
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,600
It was about how do we supercharge the

1470
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,980
reopening, especially in New York, which has been

1471
00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:17,720
hardest hit.

1472
00:56:18,260 --> 00:56:20,760
No drama there, but the president is escalating

1473
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,300
another battle with Twitter after the company for

1474
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:26,000
the first time posted fact-check labels on

1475
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,240
a pair of the president's tweets about mail

1476
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:29,000
-in ballots.

1477
00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:31,880
President Trump accusing Twitter of interfering in the

1478
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,160
2020 presidential election and today threatening to strongly

1479
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,880
regulate or close them down.

1480
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,480
A president has no authority to shut down

1481
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,960
a private company, and the First Amendment limits

1482
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,660
the government's ability to regulate free speech.

1483
00:56:45,020 --> 00:56:47,680
Meantime, some top Republicans are telling President Trump

1484
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,640
to knock it off as he again today

1485
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,420
pushed a debunked conspiracy theory.

1486
00:56:51,660 --> 00:56:54,340
That former Republican congressman and Morning Joe host

1487
00:56:54,340 --> 00:56:56,640
Joe Scarborough had something to do with the

1488
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,360
death of an aide in 2001.

1489
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,620
Laurie Klausutis died after an abnormal heart rhythm

1490
00:57:01,620 --> 00:57:03,660
caused her to collapse and hit her head

1491
00:57:03,660 --> 00:57:05,360
in Scarborough's Florida office.

1492
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,900
Scarborough was in Washington at the time.

1493
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,260
Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney.

1494
00:57:10,420 --> 00:57:11,480
We're in the middle of a pandemic.

1495
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,340
He's the chief, the commander in chief of

1496
00:57:13,340 --> 00:57:16,480
this nation, and it's causing great pain to

1497
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,420
the family of the young woman who died.

1498
00:57:18,820 --> 00:57:21,020
As for SpaceX, late tonight the president tweeted

1499
00:57:21,020 --> 00:57:22,580
that he plans to fly back to Florida

1500
00:57:22,580 --> 00:57:24,860
on Saturday for the next scheduled launch.

1501
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:25,460
Lester.

1502
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,480
Amazon has transformed its operations in response to

1503
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,480
COVID-19 to protect employees and keep packages

1504
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:46,020
flowing.

1505
00:57:46,340 --> 00:57:49,020
Amazon has transformed its operations in response to

1506
00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:51,960
COVID-19 to protect employees and keep packages

1507
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:52,460
flowing.

1508
00:57:52,780 --> 00:57:55,080
The company is keeping its employees safe and

1509
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,100
healthy while still delivering those packages to your

1510
00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:58,700
doorstep.

1511
00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:01,300
The company is keeping employees safe and healthy.

1512
00:58:18,220 --> 00:58:21,580
It spent $800 million on increased wages and

1513
00:58:21,580 --> 00:58:23,080
overtime pay during the pandemic.

1514
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,800
It has spent $800 million on increased

1515
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:37,100
wages

1516
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:38,940
and overtime pay during the pandemic.

1517
00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:47,600
Every single one of Amazon's workforce of nearly

1518
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,680
a million people has played a critical role

1519
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:50,980
in making these changes happen.

1520
00:58:50,980 --> 00:58:53,120
I hope that they feel that passion that

1521
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:53,980
we have for safety.

1522
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:56,240
So they can stay safe and healthy while

1523
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,000
you do too.

1524
00:58:57,540 --> 00:58:59,600
Look, the president today, you know, with these

1525
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,860
with these retweets, one, so many viewpoints, he

1526
00:59:02,860 --> 00:59:05,320
comments, you know, with a columnist saying that

1527
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,060
this is about social control as opposed to

1528
00:59:08,060 --> 00:59:09,200
medical reality.

1529
00:59:09,620 --> 00:59:15,760
Another one equating masks to silence, slavery and

1530
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:16,840
social death.

1531
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,960
Obviously, this is shocking.

1532
00:59:21,460 --> 00:59:24,600
I mean, and completely false when it comes

1533
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,100
to so many viewpoints.

1534
00:59:26,900 --> 00:59:31,280
Yeah, the piece that the president retweeted could

1535
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,720
have been written by a Russian bot.

1536
00:59:32,980 --> 00:59:34,300
It's essentially disinformation.

1537
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:40,500
The irrefutable concept is that universal masking, having

1538
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:42,740
the entire country wear a mask in public

1539
00:59:42,740 --> 00:59:46,780
would have dramatically reduced the death rate in

1540
00:59:46,780 --> 00:59:47,320
this country.

1541
00:59:47,820 --> 00:59:48,880
It's not up for debate.

1542
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,040
It's just science.

1543
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,340
But the president has an irreconcilable conflict of

1544
00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:53,640
interest.

1545
00:59:54,140 --> 00:59:55,760
And the conflict of interest is this.

1546
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,120
He's running for president during a pandemic.

1547
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,300
And some of the things that one would

1548
01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:04,880
need to do to suppress the pandemic run

1549
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,640
counter to his election chances.

1550
01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:09,320
He needs to make things look like the

1551
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,820
country is returning to normal.

1552
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:13,920
And wearing a mask is decidedly abnormal, but

1553
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:14,860
it saves lives.

1554
01:00:15,340 --> 01:00:17,900
So he not only does he not promote

1555
01:00:17,900 --> 01:00:22,860
universal mask wearing, he then promotes essentially negative

1556
01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:23,820
comments about it.

1557
01:00:23,940 --> 01:00:25,440
It's it's maddening.

1558
01:00:25,780 --> 01:00:28,860
You know, I've lost family members to covid.

1559
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,460
You know, my colleagues at work have lost

1560
01:00:31,460 --> 01:00:32,280
family members.

1561
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,180
And pretty soon everyone in this country is

1562
01:00:35,180 --> 01:00:37,260
going to know somebody who has lost somebody

1563
01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:38,340
to this virus.

1564
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,520
And to think that the president of the

1565
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,580
United States would not promote the simple public

1566
01:00:43,580 --> 01:00:47,380
health measure of wearing masks is insane.

1567
01:00:47,700 --> 01:00:49,800
I mean, Andrew Cuomo has been glorified by

1568
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,160
media despite policies with respect to nursing homes

1569
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,900
that caused to a number of tragic deaths,

1570
01:00:55,980 --> 01:00:59,120
whereas Ron DeSantis has instituted pretty successful policy

1571
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,000
if you look at their numbers.

1572
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,080
So what's going on here?

1573
01:01:01,180 --> 01:01:03,980
Ron DeSantis is not doing what he needed

1574
01:01:03,980 --> 01:01:06,300
to do two weeks ago to protect Florida

1575
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:06,840
seniors.

1576
01:01:06,940 --> 01:01:09,140
Been a remarkable show of leadership by Governor

1577
01:01:09,140 --> 01:01:10,260
Cuomo in recent days.

1578
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:11,700
He's providing hope.

1579
01:01:11,820 --> 01:01:15,460
And Governor Ron DeSantis is finally, finally, maybe

1580
01:01:15,460 --> 01:01:17,460
too little too late issuing a stay at

1581
01:01:17,460 --> 01:01:17,960
home order.

1582
01:01:18,060 --> 01:01:20,680
Cuomo has become a kind of acting president.

1583
01:01:20,860 --> 01:01:23,960
Governor DeSantis should have absolutely acted a lot

1584
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,600
quicker, not only for the retired people.

1585
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,200
Cuomo, everything Trump isn't honest, direct, brave.

1586
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,660
In the case of Governor DeSantis of Florida,

1587
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,860
he's going exactly the opposite way from what

1588
01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:37,200
the experts, the people on the front lines

1589
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,920
indicate ought to be done.

1590
01:01:39,020 --> 01:01:41,140
Governor Cuomo has become a national leader and

1591
01:01:41,140 --> 01:01:42,360
not just the leader of New York.

1592
01:01:42,460 --> 01:01:44,160
No stay at home order from Governor Ron

1593
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:44,520
DeSantis.

1594
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:45,660
Why bother, right?

1595
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,060
I'm sure Florida will be fine.

1596
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,640
He is conveying incredible strength in the face

1597
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:50,380
of this pandemic.

1598
01:01:50,660 --> 01:01:51,940
Act like you give a damn.

1599
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,440
I've seen you referred to a little bit

1600
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,000
recently as the love gov.

1601
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,720
And I'm wondering if that's bleeding into your

1602
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,420
demeanor at all.

1603
01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:00,880
Massive crowds swarming cities across the country are

1604
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,420
choosing social justice over social distancing.

1605
01:02:03,820 --> 01:02:05,540
I could be dead tomorrow if I walk

1606
01:02:05,540 --> 01:02:06,060
on the streets.

1607
01:02:06,980 --> 01:02:09,440
But an urgent health warning from officials.

1608
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:11,540
There's no question there's a danger this could

1609
01:02:11,540 --> 01:02:15,780
intensify the spread of the coronavirus just at

1610
01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:17,340
a point when we were starting to beat

1611
01:02:17,340 --> 01:02:18,360
it back profoundly.

1612
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,880
How many super spreaders were in that crowd?

1613
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,600
How many young people went home and kissed

1614
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,140
their mother?

1615
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,560
Hello or shook hands with their father.

1616
01:02:27,140 --> 01:02:29,760
But these demonstrators see in America infected with

1617
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:30,840
injustice, too.

1618
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:32,740
Are you worried about your safety?

1619
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:34,440
Yes.

1620
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,760
But the answer is that I'm worried about

1621
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,300
my safety to both of those viruses.

1622
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,840
Late today, the first comprehensive study on stopping

1623
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,700
the virus found physical distancing three feet or

1624
01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:47,480
more is most important, even more than wearing

1625
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,000
a mask.

1626
01:02:48,420 --> 01:02:51,500
And with tear gas flying, the risks even

1627
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:51,880
greater.

1628
01:02:52,540 --> 01:02:54,400
Tear gas makes people cough, sneeze, their eyes

1629
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:54,720
water.

1630
01:02:54,980 --> 01:02:57,140
And when that happens, the respiratory droplets that

1631
01:02:57,140 --> 01:02:59,480
carry the virus can travel further, meaning they

1632
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:00,900
can infect a lot more people.

1633
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,440
Public health and prosperity now jeopardized.

1634
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,400
This restaurant owner's reopening was put on hold.

1635
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,580
I worked for two months every day to

1636
01:03:10,580 --> 01:03:13,340
reposition ourselves for this to happen.

1637
01:03:14,060 --> 01:03:17,780
In South Florida, businesses were expecting to see

1638
01:03:17,780 --> 01:03:19,140
Miami Beach reopen today.

1639
01:03:19,140 --> 01:03:21,620
That's now been postponed because of the protests

1640
01:03:21,620 --> 01:03:23,640
as officials everywhere wait to see if cases

1641
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,140
of the virus surge in the next two

1642
01:03:25,140 --> 01:03:25,420
weeks.

1643
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,020
I can't tell you how many people have

1644
01:03:28,020 --> 01:03:30,420
been in touch with me today and tonight

1645
01:03:30,420 --> 01:03:33,660
and last night to say some form of

1646
01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:35,880
the following which we would have laughed at

1647
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:36,900
five years ago.

1648
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,340
The Russians must be having a good old

1649
01:03:40,340 --> 01:03:44,420
time looking at television images of the United

1650
01:03:44,420 --> 01:03:45,080
States.

1651
01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:49,300
Death toll of a 100,000, a pandemic

1652
01:03:49,300 --> 01:03:53,660
not at all under control, and now city

1653
01:03:53,660 --> 01:03:56,720
streets aflame in more cities tonight than we

1654
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:57,220
can list.

1655
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:58,860
Yeah, I've lost count of the number of

1656
01:03:58,860 --> 01:04:00,580
times you and I, Brian, have talked about

1657
01:04:00,580 --> 01:04:04,340
this very concept that the number one goal

1658
01:04:04,340 --> 01:04:06,740
of the Russian government is not to get

1659
01:04:06,740 --> 01:04:09,710
a certain person in the rather to sow

1660
01:04:09,710 --> 01:04:11,510
discord and chaos.

1661
01:04:11,950 --> 01:04:14,290
Now, it helps if the person in the

1662
01:04:14,290 --> 01:04:17,910
White House is unable to calm the nerves

1663
01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:20,810
of the nation, is unable to get peace

1664
01:04:20,810 --> 01:04:23,390
and calm restored in our cities through his

1665
01:04:23,390 --> 01:04:26,770
behavior, through trust, through his relationships and his

1666
01:04:26,770 --> 01:04:27,130
statements.

1667
01:04:27,410 --> 01:04:30,210
So yes, our adversaries are studying this right

1668
01:04:30,210 --> 01:04:30,490
now.

1669
01:04:30,850 --> 01:04:32,950
Some of them are actually pleased that we

1670
01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:35,690
are more divided than ever, and I'm very

1671
01:04:35,690 --> 01:04:37,670
troubled that we could be in for a

1672
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:40,690
very long hot summer if this isn't quashed.

1673
01:04:40,970 --> 01:04:43,770
April Williams is a professor of communications and

1674
01:04:43,770 --> 01:04:46,350
media at the University of Michigan, and she

1675
01:04:46,350 --> 01:04:49,430
says the Karen meme resurged with a vengeance

1676
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:50,430
last month.

1677
01:04:50,790 --> 01:04:54,490
A woman named Karen was denying that COVID

1678
01:04:54,490 --> 01:04:58,250
-19 was real, became ill, and unfortunately she

1679
01:04:58,250 --> 01:04:58,990
passed away.

1680
01:04:59,470 --> 01:05:01,310
And one of the things that I'm seeing

1681
01:05:01,310 --> 01:05:04,090
is people saying, look, this is peak Karen

1682
01:05:04,090 --> 01:05:04,810
behavior.

1683
01:05:06,110 --> 01:05:09,050
It seems so wasteful, but some American dairy

1684
01:05:09,050 --> 01:05:12,250
farmers are dumping milk, like the 56,000

1685
01:05:12,250 --> 01:05:14,770
pounds produced by farm owner Mark Muller in

1686
01:05:14,770 --> 01:05:15,770
northeast Wisconsin.

1687
01:05:16,110 --> 01:05:17,690
You put all that labor and work into

1688
01:05:17,690 --> 01:05:19,330
the milk, and you hate to see it

1689
01:05:19,330 --> 01:05:20,790
go down the drain when you know that

1690
01:05:20,790 --> 01:05:22,770
there's people starving in the world and in

1691
01:05:22,770 --> 01:05:23,590
our country even.

1692
01:05:24,050 --> 01:05:25,290
We hate to throw things away.

1693
01:05:25,290 --> 01:05:28,330
Despite strong demand for milk as consumers stay

1694
01:05:28,330 --> 01:05:31,930
home amid the coronavirus pandemic, dairy cooperatives that

1695
01:05:31,930 --> 01:05:35,150
oversee marketing and shipping logistics are asking some

1696
01:05:35,150 --> 01:05:36,750
farmers to dump milk.

1697
01:05:37,650 --> 01:05:40,230
Supply chain disruptions due to the outbreak are

1698
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:42,850
preventing farmers from getting their products to the

1699
01:05:42,850 --> 01:05:43,250
markets.

1700
01:05:43,770 --> 01:05:46,830
With schools and restaurants closed, milk processors have

1701
01:05:46,830 --> 01:05:49,370
to shift to selling to retail grocers instead

1702
01:05:49,370 --> 01:05:50,270
of wholesalers.

1703
01:05:50,590 --> 01:05:53,270
That creates logistical and packaging challenges.

1704
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:56,830
What's more, trucking companies are scrambling for drivers

1705
01:05:56,830 --> 01:05:59,130
as some who fear the virus have stopped

1706
01:05:59,130 --> 01:05:59,610
working.

1707
01:06:00,070 --> 01:06:02,630
Overseas dairy markets have dried up, and it

1708
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:05,030
doesn't help that milk is highly perishable.

1709
01:06:05,690 --> 01:06:07,510
Some farmers say they will be paid for

1710
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:09,870
the milk they dump, but payments for all

1711
01:06:09,870 --> 01:06:11,950
co-op members will take a hit from

1712
01:06:11,950 --> 01:06:12,830
lost revenues.

1713
01:06:13,130 --> 01:06:14,870
Today is a day of good news.

1714
01:06:15,570 --> 01:06:20,190
We have one of the lowest hospitalization rates

1715
01:06:21,150 --> 01:06:22,970
since this began.

1716
01:06:23,450 --> 01:06:26,210
And really good news, we have the lowest

1717
01:06:26,210 --> 01:06:27,150
death rate.

1718
01:06:27,330 --> 01:06:28,390
It's down to 35.

1719
01:06:29,770 --> 01:06:32,610
I've been asking all the experts who will

1720
01:06:32,610 --> 01:06:36,290
talk to me what is the lowest that

1721
01:06:36,290 --> 01:06:37,370
number can go.

1722
01:06:38,330 --> 01:06:40,790
And when it gets this low, it's really

1723
01:06:40,790 --> 01:06:44,610
a question of what they're attributing as the

1724
01:06:44,610 --> 01:06:45,450
cause of death.

1725
01:06:45,450 --> 01:06:48,970
In other words, you have people who are

1726
01:06:48,970 --> 01:06:54,690
gravely ill, who are going to die of

1727
01:06:54,690 --> 01:06:57,590
something, and if they get the COVID virus,

1728
01:06:57,710 --> 01:06:59,570
they attribute it to the COVID virus.

1729
01:06:59,750 --> 01:07:01,670
But there is a number.

1730
01:07:03,230 --> 01:07:06,990
When it gets down this low, it's really

1731
01:07:06,990 --> 01:07:10,450
a question of what that hospital certifies as

1732
01:07:10,450 --> 01:07:11,890
a cause of death.

1733
01:07:12,730 --> 01:07:15,370
So we'd like to see nobody die in

1734
01:07:15,370 --> 01:07:16,670
the state of New York ever.

1735
01:07:20,590 --> 01:07:22,970
Where is the president in a time of

1736
01:07:22,970 --> 01:07:23,830
national emergency?

1737
01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:25,910
Hiding.

1738
01:07:26,890 --> 01:07:30,110
Hiding in a security bunker, watching his shows,

1739
01:07:30,810 --> 01:07:32,830
afraid, alone.

1740
01:07:33,950 --> 01:07:34,530
Not a leader.

1741
01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:36,690
Supposing you brought the light inside the body.

1742
01:07:36,690 --> 01:07:37,970
Not a president.

1743
01:07:38,550 --> 01:07:41,030
Just a scared, incompetent.

1744
01:07:41,050 --> 01:07:42,250
Within a couple of days, it's going to

1745
01:07:42,250 --> 01:07:43,710
be down to close to zero.

1746
01:07:44,750 --> 01:07:45,270
Embarrassment.

1747
01:07:46,490 --> 01:07:47,510
You know that.

1748
01:07:48,110 --> 01:07:50,250
Those who have worked with him know that.

1749
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:53,250
The former defense secretary, James Mattis, accusing President

1750
01:07:53,250 --> 01:07:55,410
Trump of being a threat to the Constitution.

1751
01:07:55,810 --> 01:07:57,070
Our allies know that.

1752
01:07:58,430 --> 01:08:00,090
And our enemies know that.

1753
01:08:00,990 --> 01:08:02,510
Everyone knows that.

1754
01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:05,850
It's time for a competent president.

1755
01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:07,670
Let's elect one.

1756
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,720
Defending Democracy Together is responsible for the content

1757
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:16,620
of this advertising.

1758
01:08:16,979 --> 01:08:19,800
A vaccine, either by the end of this

1759
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,359
calendar year or in the first few months

1760
01:08:22,359 --> 01:08:23,640
of 2021.

1761
01:08:24,340 --> 01:08:26,180
So that's the thing that makes me feel

1762
01:08:26,180 --> 01:08:29,680
confident that the process is really on track.

1763
01:08:29,939 --> 01:08:31,100
And that's good news.

1764
01:08:31,180 --> 01:08:33,979
Again, in the context of never being able

1765
01:08:33,979 --> 01:08:37,420
to guarantee success, things are clearly going in

1766
01:08:37,420 --> 01:08:38,140
the right direction.

1767
01:08:38,660 --> 01:08:39,479
That's very promising.

1768
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:40,800
Very promising indeed.

1769
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,359
And once there is a vaccine, how often

1770
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:45,359
do you think we would need it?

1771
01:08:45,420 --> 01:08:46,960
Would it be like getting the flu shot

1772
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:47,399
every year?

1773
01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:49,500
You know, we don't know that right now.

1774
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:50,800
We're going to take it one step at

1775
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:51,200
a time.

1776
01:08:51,260 --> 01:08:53,260
The first thing we want to do is

1777
01:08:53,260 --> 01:08:56,120
to determine if it's safe and if it

1778
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:56,800
protects.

1779
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,100
How long that protection lasts.

1780
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,020
We're going to have to obviously observe that.

1781
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,279
And that's the reason why when you make

1782
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:06,160
a vaccine, it isn't the end of the

1783
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:06,540
game.

1784
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,960
You have to keep following and see how

1785
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,560
long the duration of the protection is.

1786
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,319
We hope it's substantial.

1787
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,580
But if it isn't, you can always give

1788
01:09:15,580 --> 01:09:16,100
a boost.

1789
01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:19,500
So right now, step one, let's just prove

1790
01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:21,160
that it's safe and effective.

1791
01:09:21,220 --> 01:09:22,979
And then we'll go on from there.

1792
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:23,580
Right.

1793
01:09:23,580 --> 01:09:26,160
So, OK, so people in the media, a

1794
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,359
lot of them are not very good at

1795
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:29,600
math and they're very prone to groupthink as

1796
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,100
they as the cannabis thing taught me.

1797
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,580
But there's something even worse than that.

1798
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:33,840
Right.

1799
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,240
And people call it Trump derangement syndrome.

1800
01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:38,180
I don't like to call it that because

1801
01:09:38,180 --> 01:09:41,560
that to me suggests there aren't good reasons

1802
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:42,479
to be mad at Trump.

1803
01:09:42,580 --> 01:09:44,100
I call it orange man bad.

1804
01:09:44,460 --> 01:09:44,899
Right.

1805
01:09:44,979 --> 01:09:47,399
Because that puts you in on the joke

1806
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:47,819
a little bit.

1807
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:48,020
Right.

1808
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:50,660
That, you know, Donald Trump does have lots

1809
01:09:50,660 --> 01:09:53,200
of issues, but there's orange man bad syndrome

1810
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:53,840
going on.

1811
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,620
And Donald Trump got blamed for this early

1812
01:09:56,620 --> 01:09:57,020
on.

1813
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,080
And, you know, he didn't.

1814
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,580
The government didn't prepare.

1815
01:09:59,760 --> 01:09:59,920
Right.

1816
01:09:59,980 --> 01:10:00,740
He shut the borders.

1817
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,980
But then the government didn't really prepare in

1818
01:10:02,980 --> 01:10:04,100
February and early March.

1819
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:05,020
And then it panicked.

1820
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,840
But what people realized in the media, consciously

1821
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,980
or not, was they could beat him up

1822
01:10:09,980 --> 01:10:10,320
with this.

1823
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:11,640
They could beat him over the head with

1824
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,360
it because his normal style is to bluster

1825
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,140
and to bluff and to mock people.

1826
01:10:16,140 --> 01:10:18,860
And that does not work when they're when,

1827
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,820
you know, when you have these death counts

1828
01:10:20,820 --> 01:10:21,500
every day.

1829
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:21,760
Right.

1830
01:10:21,860 --> 01:10:25,380
So they realized they could embarrass him and

1831
01:10:25,380 --> 01:10:27,940
they have been doing it nonstop ever since.

1832
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,460
But the flip side of embarrassing him means

1833
01:10:30,460 --> 01:10:32,580
you have to constantly talk about how terrible

1834
01:10:32,580 --> 01:10:33,300
this is.

1835
01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:36,520
Now, I mean, that's that's I know that's

1836
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:37,520
quite a charge.

1837
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,220
I mean, what makes you think they really

1838
01:10:39,220 --> 01:10:41,680
want them to to get covid?

1839
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,960
Because money, money, it's I think it's at

1840
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,520
least twenty nine thousand dollars per per patient.

1841
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,400
And then you have to think you are

1842
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,740
also charging supplies and more supplies, more supplies.

1843
01:10:53,780 --> 01:10:55,480
That's just like a bonus money.

1844
01:10:55,980 --> 01:10:58,360
But what do the but the residents aren't

1845
01:10:58,360 --> 01:10:58,940
getting that.

1846
01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,200
Right.

1847
01:10:59,220 --> 01:10:59,720
I mean, why?

1848
01:11:00,340 --> 01:11:01,420
Well, that's the thing.

1849
01:11:01,460 --> 01:11:05,180
And I actually had a I've went at

1850
01:11:05,180 --> 01:11:07,140
it with a lot of residents already.

1851
01:11:07,580 --> 01:11:10,460
And they're they're order followers.

1852
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,580
You talk about psychological warfare.

1853
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,940
Psychological warfare isn't just lying to you.

1854
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,600
It's not just propaganda as we would normally

1855
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:17,140
think of it.

1856
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,780
Psychological warfare is changing the way you interpret

1857
01:11:20,780 --> 01:11:23,400
information so that you and I can be

1858
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,320
looking at the exact same set of data

1859
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,720
and we would come to wildly different conclusions

1860
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:28,260
on it.

1861
01:11:28,780 --> 01:11:31,380
So, for example, with this virus right now,

1862
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,220
this pandemic, you're looking at the Chinese regime's

1863
01:11:34,220 --> 01:11:35,100
handling of the virus.

1864
01:11:35,220 --> 01:11:36,600
We're both looking at the we're looking at

1865
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:37,720
the exact same data.

1866
01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:40,820
Now, do you interpret it as being a

1867
01:11:40,820 --> 01:11:41,120
sign?

1868
01:11:41,300 --> 01:11:43,340
Oh, the Chinese regime did all it all

1869
01:11:43,340 --> 01:11:44,400
it could in its power.

1870
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,800
It took very strong measures to ensure that

1871
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,320
the virus didn't spread and the rest of

1872
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,780
the world is just being unfair to it.

1873
01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:53,120
Or do you think the Chinese regime lied

1874
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:53,760
to the world?

1875
01:11:53,980 --> 01:11:58,340
The Chinese regime arrested doctors, disappeared journalists and

1876
01:11:58,340 --> 01:11:59,200
these types of things.

1877
01:11:59,340 --> 01:12:02,200
If you were following only the information the

1878
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,400
CCP was releasing and some of the organizations

1879
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,320
that support the CCP, what they were saying,

1880
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,540
you would view it in line of the

1881
01:12:08,540 --> 01:12:11,000
CCP's pro-CCP viewpoint.

1882
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,600
If you were following all the real data,

1883
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,600
for example, their cover-ups, their lying to

1884
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,160
the world, their manipulation of data and numbers,

1885
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,600
you would understand, okay, they were misleading the

1886
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:22,860
world.

1887
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:24,960
They were very dishonest about it.

1888
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,580
And no, absolutely, they did not handle it

1889
01:12:27,580 --> 01:12:27,880
well.

1890
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,560
The idea that they handled it well, you

1891
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,460
would only believe that if you believed all

1892
01:12:32,460 --> 01:12:34,120
of the lies they were telling the world,

1893
01:12:34,300 --> 01:12:35,660
most of which have been exposed.

1894
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,580
All right, well, let's get into it.

1895
01:12:38,660 --> 01:12:40,700
Veena, what has you fired up this week?

1896
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,120
Well, I've been following this JK Rowling controversy,

1897
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:45,960
and it all started with a tweet she

1898
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:46,240
made.

1899
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,980
Actually, it started with this headline, creating a

1900
01:12:48,980 --> 01:12:51,660
more equal post-COVID-19 world for people

1901
01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:52,360
who menstruate.

1902
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,420
JK took issue with the word people being

1903
01:12:55,420 --> 01:12:55,840
used.

1904
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,720
Maybe she was trying to be funny, but

1905
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,040
she hinted that the publication should have stuck

1906
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,300
with using the word women.

1907
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,880
Some fans pointed out that there are lots

1908
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,020
of those who menstruate who don't identify as

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01:13:06,020 --> 01:13:06,280
women.

1910
01:13:06,780 --> 01:13:08,500
And then things got a little messy, lots

1911
01:13:08,500 --> 01:13:09,620
of tweets back and forth.

1912
01:13:09,740 --> 01:13:11,820
And at one point, JK fired back with,

1913
01:13:12,260 --> 01:13:14,300
my life has been shaped by being female,

1914
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:15,920
and I don't think it's hateful to say

1915
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:16,260
so.

1916
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:17,660
It's 2020.

1917
01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:20,940
Releasing these kind of statements online is not

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01:13:20,940 --> 01:13:21,440
a good look.

1919
01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:24,440
And hasn't she been accused of transphobic stuff

1920
01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:25,040
in the past?

1921
01:13:26,180 --> 01:13:26,700
Um, yeah.

1922
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,160
Last year, she was criticized for supporting a

1923
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,600
woman who was fired after saying that trans

1924
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,060
women weren't real women.

1925
01:13:33,380 --> 01:13:34,940
Sis, read the room.

1926
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,080
There are so many conversations right now about

1927
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,520
equality, justice, and racism.

1928
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,440
Is it any surprise that this story is

1929
01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:43,160
blowing up right now?

1930
01:13:43,580 --> 01:13:44,080
Exactly.

1931
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:45,520
It's Pride Month, too.

1932
01:13:45,620 --> 01:13:48,320
And this week, Daniel Radcliffe, Harry Potter himself,

1933
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,260
reacted with an essay advocating for trans lives.

1934
01:13:51,780 --> 01:13:53,700
I thought he addressed the whole thing really

1935
01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:54,040
well.

1936
01:13:54,140 --> 01:13:56,280
And I liked how he expressed his hopes

1937
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,100
that people don't lose their love for the

1938
01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:00,720
books themselves or forget the valuable lessons that

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01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:01,600
they learned from them.

1940
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:03,480
I have not read the books.

1941
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:04,680
I have not seen the movies.

1942
01:14:04,820 --> 01:14:05,820
Don't come at me.

1943
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,220
Okay, Maya, get out of here.

1944
01:14:08,380 --> 01:14:08,660
What?

1945
01:14:09,460 --> 01:14:11,360
Well, I did watch the movies.

1946
01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:13,900
And seeing Daniel advocate for what he believes

1947
01:14:13,900 --> 01:14:15,060
in is so inspiring.

1948
01:14:15,060 --> 01:14:17,660
And also, I loved how he signed his

1949
01:14:17,660 --> 01:14:18,640
letter as Dan.

1950
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,620
Definitely had a big major glow up.

1951
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,920
Only you would notice such a small detail,

1952
01:14:24,140 --> 01:14:24,300
Sean.

1953
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:25,740
Do we think this will have a long

1954
01:14:25,740 --> 01:14:27,060
-lasting impact on her career?

1955
01:14:27,940 --> 01:14:29,940
I think that this will diminish the amount

1956
01:14:29,940 --> 01:14:32,020
of respect that J.K. Rowling has acquired

1957
01:14:32,020 --> 01:14:32,660
over the years.

1958
01:14:32,820 --> 01:14:35,320
But her writing is just so exceptional and

1959
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,160
renowned that I don't think the hype's ever

1960
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:37,840
going to die down.

1961
01:14:38,660 --> 01:14:40,640
What about a month or so or two

1962
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,280
or three ago when people were saying, you

1963
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:44,580
don't really need to wear a mask?

1964
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,760
Well, the reason for that is that we

1965
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,620
were concerned, the public health community, and many

1966
01:14:49,620 --> 01:14:52,460
people were saying this, were concerned that it

1967
01:14:52,460 --> 01:14:55,260
was at a time when personal protective equipment,

1968
01:14:55,460 --> 01:14:59,120
including the N95 masks and the surgical masks,

1969
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,660
were in very short supply.

1970
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,640
And we wanted to make sure that the

1971
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,440
people, namely the healthcare workers, who were brave

1972
01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:10,040
enough to put themselves in harm ways to

1973
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,880
take care of people who you know were

1974
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,020
infected with the coronavirus and the danger of

1975
01:15:16,020 --> 01:15:18,500
them getting infected, we did not want them

1976
01:15:18,500 --> 01:15:21,900
to be without the equipment that they needed.

1977
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,860
So there was non-enthusiasm about going out

1978
01:15:24,860 --> 01:15:26,620
and everybody buying a mask or getting a

1979
01:15:26,620 --> 01:15:26,920
mask.

1980
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,440
We were afraid that that would deter away

1981
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:31,180
the people who really needed it.

1982
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:32,860
Now we have masks.

1983
01:15:33,020 --> 01:15:34,860
We know that you don't need an N95

1984
01:15:34,860 --> 01:15:37,560
if you're a person, ordinary person, in the

1985
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:37,840
street.

1986
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,360
We also know that simple cloth coverings that

1987
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,800
many people have can work as well as

1988
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,060
a mask in many cases.

1989
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:51,420
So right now, unequivocally, the recommendation is when

1990
01:15:51,420 --> 01:15:53,620
you're out there, particularly if you're in a

1991
01:15:53,620 --> 01:15:57,060
situation where there's active infection, keep the distance

1992
01:15:57,060 --> 01:15:59,100
physically and wear a mask.

1993
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,480
So although there appear to be some contradiction

1994
01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:03,820
of you were saying this then and why

1995
01:16:03,820 --> 01:16:06,880
you're saying this now, actually the circumstances have

1996
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:07,320
changed.

1997
01:16:07,700 --> 01:16:08,660
That's the reason why.

1998
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,280
The gentleman yields back.

1999
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,860
I want to announce that in accordance with

2000
01:16:12,860 --> 01:16:15,540
what I said this morning, the attending physician

2001
01:16:15,540 --> 01:16:17,760
of the House has said that it is

2002
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,720
imperative for the health and safety of people

2003
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:25,500
in this room that members wear masks.

2004
01:16:25,900 --> 01:16:28,120
I would greatly prefer that all presence simply

2005
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,880
uphold the decorum of the committee by complying

2006
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,080
with reasonable safety standards that are recommended by

2007
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,700
the attending physician and are respectful of all

2008
01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:36,860
the occupants of this room.

2009
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:39,020
I have been greatly lenient today.

2010
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,820
However, I will tell you now that anyone

2011
01:16:42,820 --> 01:16:44,440
who is not wearing a mask will not

2012
01:16:44,440 --> 01:16:47,180
be recognized to speak, period.

2013
01:16:47,980 --> 01:16:49,240
Who seeks recognition?

2014
01:16:49,540 --> 01:16:50,040
Mr. Chairman.

2015
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,580
The Ms. Escobar is next.

2016
01:16:52,900 --> 01:16:53,000
Mr. Chairman.

2017
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,340
Ms. Escobar is next.

2018
01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:56,620
Mr. Chairman, a point of parliamentary— Ms. Escobar

2019
01:16:56,620 --> 01:16:57,280
is recognized.

2020
01:16:58,020 --> 01:16:59,300
Ms. Escobar— Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2021
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:02,660
McClintock has tried repeatedly to make his point.

2022
01:17:03,660 --> 01:17:04,060
Repeatedly.

2023
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,360
Ms. Escobar has the time.

2024
01:17:07,180 --> 01:17:07,860
Mr. Chairman.

2025
01:17:07,860 --> 01:17:08,320
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2026
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:09,480
No, no, it's our side.

2027
01:17:09,660 --> 01:17:11,060
You just had a Democrat speak.

2028
01:17:11,180 --> 01:17:11,920
It's our turn.

2029
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:13,080
Ms. Escobar has the time.

2030
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,720
Ms. Escobar— No, he doesn't.

2031
01:17:16,020 --> 01:17:17,360
Ms. Escobar has the time.

2032
01:17:17,460 --> 01:17:18,160
Mr. Chairman.

2033
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:19,860
Mr.— Ms. Escobar has the time.

2034
01:17:19,860 --> 01:17:21,960
I think Mr. Lew just spoke.

2035
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,560
It's Republicans' turn and Mr. McClintock has tried

2036
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,320
now for several minutes to be recognized on

2037
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:27,940
a point of order.

2038
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,060
There is no point of order, but who

2039
01:17:30,060 --> 01:17:31,260
seeks recognition to speak?

2040
01:17:31,460 --> 01:17:33,820
Mr. Chairman, I seek recognition for a point

2041
01:17:33,820 --> 01:17:35,060
of parliamentary inquiry.

2042
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,220
This gentleman will state his point of parliamentary

2043
01:17:37,220 --> 01:17:37,460
inquiry.

2044
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,720
I would like the chairman to cite the

2045
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,260
House rule requiring members to wear masks in

2046
01:17:43,260 --> 01:17:44,220
House proceedings.

2047
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,600
If we had such a vote, I don't

2048
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,220
recall it.

2049
01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:49,620
If we have such a vote, I will

2050
01:17:49,620 --> 01:17:52,340
vote against it, but I will be happy

2051
01:17:52,340 --> 01:17:55,040
to abide by it if the House so

2052
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:55,700
decides.

2053
01:17:56,480 --> 01:17:59,520
Until then, I would like you to cite

2054
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,600
me that rule since I obviously used that

2055
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:01,800
vote.

2056
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,840
The chair's authority to enforce the preservation of

2057
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,120
order and decorum during committee proceedings derives from

2058
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,500
the speaker's enforcement authority under Clause 2 of

2059
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:10,980
Rule 1.

2060
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,760
And with testing—you know, testing is a double

2061
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:15,320
-edged sword.

2062
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:20,540
We've tested now 25 million people.

2063
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:26,700
It's probably 20 million people more than anybody

2064
01:18:26,700 --> 01:18:26,920
else.

2065
01:18:27,060 --> 01:18:28,180
Germany has done a lot.

2066
01:18:28,980 --> 01:18:30,500
South Korea has done a lot.

2067
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:31,300
They call me.

2068
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,180
They say, the job you're doing—here's the bad

2069
01:18:33,180 --> 01:18:33,500
part.

2070
01:18:33,820 --> 01:18:37,360
When you do testing to that extent, you're

2071
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:38,240
going to find more people.

2072
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:39,320
You're going to find more cases.

2073
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:42,100
So I said to my people, slow the

2074
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:43,560
testing down, please.

2075
01:18:45,380 --> 01:18:47,120
They test, and they test.

2076
01:18:47,220 --> 01:18:49,120
We got tests, and people don't know what's

2077
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:49,520
going on.

2078
01:18:49,740 --> 01:18:50,360
We got tests.

2079
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:51,600
We got another one over here.

2080
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,280
The young man's 10 years old.

2081
01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:56,140
He's got the sniffles.

2082
01:18:56,700 --> 01:18:58,440
He'll recover in about 15 minutes.

2083
01:18:58,900 --> 01:18:59,700
That's a case.

2084
01:19:00,300 --> 01:19:00,900
Add up to it.

2085
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:01,460
That's a case.

2086
01:19:02,300 --> 01:19:03,140
That's a case.

2087
01:19:08,300 --> 01:19:10,760
Today I want to talk about a peculiar

2088
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,760
aspect of quantum measurements that you may have

2089
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:14,300
heard of.

2090
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,940
It's that the measurement does not merely reveal

2091
01:19:17,940 --> 01:19:21,620
a property that previously existed, but that the

2092
01:19:21,620 --> 01:19:24,300
act of measuring makes that property real.

2093
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,960
So, when Donald Trump claims that not testing

2094
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,120
people for COVID means there will be fewer

2095
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,140
cases rather than just fewer cases you know

2096
01:19:33,140 --> 01:19:36,800
about, then that demonstrates his deep knowledge of

2097
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:37,760
quantum mechanics.

2098
01:19:39,380 --> 01:19:42,800
Surges in cases of coronavirus are not linked

2099
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,360
to recent protests such as the Black Lives

2100
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,940
Matter, George Floyd, and police protests.

2101
01:19:48,540 --> 01:19:50,660
Not even more people leaving their homes during

2102
01:19:50,660 --> 01:19:52,780
the warm weather explains the surge of new

2103
01:19:52,780 --> 01:19:53,860
coronavirus cases.

2104
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,780
This is according to findings of USA Today,

2105
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,120
an analysis of counties nationwide.

2106
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:02,560
For now, surges seem to be most intense

2107
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,160
in counties that had avoided the worst outbreaks

2108
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,020
earlier this year.

2109
01:20:06,420 --> 01:20:09,320
The analysis found no single cause seems to

2110
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,100
explain why some places have seen spikes while

2111
01:20:12,100 --> 01:20:12,820
others have not.

2112
01:20:13,260 --> 01:20:15,260
The report cites one health expert as saying

2113
01:20:15,260 --> 01:20:17,120
the virus is still out there and the

2114
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,200
strategy for fighting it has not changed.

2115
01:20:20,440 --> 01:20:22,440
Will any White House officials be at the

2116
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:23,060
rally tomorrow?

2117
01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:24,900
There'll be several White House officials at the

2118
01:20:24,900 --> 01:20:25,080
rally.

2119
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,440
And will those officials, will you be there

2120
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:28,380
for example?

2121
01:20:28,620 --> 01:20:29,220
I will be there.

2122
01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:31,400
Will you and other White House officials be

2123
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:32,740
wearing masks at the rally?

2124
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:33,900
It's a personal choice.

2125
01:20:34,020 --> 01:20:35,180
I won't be wearing a mask.

2126
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:36,400
I can't speak for my colleagues.

2127
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,040
And why won't you wear a mask?

2128
01:20:38,140 --> 01:20:40,300
Is it sort of a personal political statement?

2129
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,520
Is it because the president would be disappointed

2130
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:43,840
in you if you don't wear a mask?

2131
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,640
It's a personal decision.

2132
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:47,840
I'm tested regularly.

2133
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:49,400
I feel that it's safe for me not

2134
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,160
to be wearing a mask and I'm in

2135
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,620
compliance with CDC guidelines which are recommended but

2136
01:20:53,620 --> 01:20:54,100
not required.

2137
01:20:54,460 --> 01:20:55,440
This is not a mask.

2138
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:56,580
This is confidence.

2139
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,420
It's for getting out and working anywhere other

2140
01:21:00,420 --> 01:21:00,860
than home.

2141
01:21:01,420 --> 01:21:02,800
This is not a mask.

2142
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:04,380
This is solidarity.

2143
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,620
It's for opening the door to a friend

2144
01:21:07,620 --> 01:21:10,140
and keeping the doors open to your favourite

2145
01:21:10,140 --> 01:21:10,740
places.

2146
01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:13,500
This is not a mask.

2147
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:15,660
This is a sign of love.

2148
01:21:17,460 --> 01:21:20,100
It was sold with plenty of promise.

2149
01:21:20,500 --> 01:21:21,720
That is Australia's ticket.

2150
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,480
A ticket to freedom.

2151
01:21:23,780 --> 01:21:25,380
So we can get back to the things

2152
01:21:25,380 --> 01:21:25,880
we love.

2153
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,260
But so far the $1.5 million app

2154
01:21:29,260 --> 01:21:30,840
has hardly helped.

2155
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,580
There haven't been new contacts identified through the

2156
01:21:33,580 --> 01:21:34,360
use of the COVID app.

2157
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,540
Victoria, New South Wales, South Australia and Tasmania

2158
01:21:37,540 --> 01:21:40,700
yet to pick up a single close contact

2159
01:21:40,700 --> 01:21:43,520
from the app who hadn't already been identified

2160
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,020
by contact tracers.

2161
01:21:45,540 --> 01:21:48,820
And in Queensland and Western Australia not one

2162
01:21:48,820 --> 01:21:51,660
confirmed case had downloaded the app.

2163
01:21:51,780 --> 01:21:53,880
The COVID-19 app is not working as

2164
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,800
we hoped it would because too few people

2165
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:56,800
have downloaded it.

2166
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,280
Other states say tracing has been easier because

2167
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,320
cases have been in hotel quarantine.

2168
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,240
But in Victoria the virus is spreading in

2169
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:08,860
the community and of the 568 cases confirmed

2170
01:22:08,860 --> 01:22:12,140
since the app was launched just over 30

2171
01:22:12,140 --> 01:22:13,760
had downloaded it.

2172
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,040
It will help protect you.

2173
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,100
It will help protect your family.

2174
01:22:17,340 --> 01:22:21,060
The UK government's not convinced that apps are

2175
01:22:21,060 --> 01:22:21,940
the right tool.

2176
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:24,780
No country currently has a functioning track and

2177
01:22:24,780 --> 01:22:25,720
trace app.

2178
01:22:26,020 --> 01:22:29,180
I can't speak to those comments.

2179
01:22:29,180 --> 01:22:33,100
Australia's app doesn't notify users, only state governments,

2180
01:22:33,220 --> 01:22:35,160
when someone has been in contact with a

2181
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:35,600
patient.

2182
01:22:36,140 --> 01:22:38,060
And Nine News has been told in some

2183
01:22:38,060 --> 01:22:41,080
cases the app didn't gather any data at

2184
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:41,440
all.

2185
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,480
The federal government is adamant the app is

2186
01:22:43,480 --> 01:22:46,000
working, insisting the country's low case numbers is

2187
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,600
limiting how effective the app could be and

2188
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,680
says it will be more useful as more

2189
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,940
restrictions are lifted and more people stand around

2190
01:22:53,940 --> 01:22:54,460
each other.

2191
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:55,840
Good evening from New York.

2192
01:22:55,900 --> 01:22:56,480
I'm Chris Hayes.

2193
01:22:56,480 --> 01:22:59,320
Right now, right this moment, there are Americans

2194
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,000
who are alive and who are healthy who

2195
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:03,220
will be dead by the fall.

2196
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,860
And there are Americans who already died who

2197
01:23:05,860 --> 01:23:06,580
did not have to.

2198
01:23:07,220 --> 01:23:08,860
All because of the failures of our government

2199
01:23:08,860 --> 01:23:11,200
and more specifically the President of the United

2200
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:11,500
States.

2201
01:23:11,740 --> 01:23:13,940
There is no other conclusion you can reach

2202
01:23:13,940 --> 01:23:14,420
at this point.

2203
01:23:15,220 --> 01:23:16,620
At this point there's nothing left to say

2204
01:23:16,620 --> 01:23:18,920
but that Donald Trump has gotten Americans killed

2205
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,160
and is going to get even more Americans

2206
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,680
killed in unfathomable numbers.

2207
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:24,960
We've heard of this extensively.

2208
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,020
The spike in cases is not coming with

2209
01:23:28,020 --> 01:23:29,700
a spike in deaths, sadly enough.

2210
01:23:29,900 --> 01:23:31,900
That's the one thing you look at because

2211
01:23:31,900 --> 01:23:32,860
that's a big worry.

2212
01:23:33,060 --> 01:23:35,620
Well, this is going to sound counterintuitive to

2213
01:23:35,620 --> 01:23:38,760
those who are trying to avoid another shutdown

2214
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,100
because the plan that the mayor is floating,

2215
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,640
he mentioned it last night on his Facebook

2216
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:48,200
Live, actually involves a 35-day shutdown followed

2217
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,880
by an extended period of lessons learned.

2218
01:23:51,500 --> 01:23:54,200
You remember the shutdown, the schools, parks and

2219
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,300
businesses fully closed and churches were reluctant to

2220
01:23:57,300 --> 01:23:59,380
meet for fear of spreading the COVID-19

2221
01:23:59,380 --> 01:23:59,800
virus.

2222
01:24:00,300 --> 01:24:02,020
We all stayed home and only traveled to

2223
01:24:02,020 --> 01:24:04,260
essential businesses for food and supplies.

2224
01:24:04,900 --> 01:24:06,600
Well, if I understand the mayor, under this

2225
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,680
proposal we can expect more of the same.

2226
01:24:09,180 --> 01:24:11,080
But coming out of the shutdown will be

2227
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,560
different, he hopes, now that we've seen what

2228
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,200
happens when people let their face masks down

2229
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,280
and gather shoulder to shoulder in large numbers.

2230
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,240
We're going to come out after 35 days.

2231
01:24:23,060 --> 01:24:25,160
Everybody's going to wear their face masks when

2232
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:26,080
they're around other people.

2233
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:28,080
Everybody's going to social distance.

2234
01:24:28,260 --> 01:24:29,860
Nobody's going to go out when they're sick.

2235
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,280
Everybody's going to get tested.

2236
01:24:31,900 --> 01:24:32,820
We could do that.

2237
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,460
We could come out, be in orange and

2238
01:24:35,460 --> 01:24:36,460
just stay in orange.

2239
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:37,960
And if you look at this chart, that

2240
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:39,920
also enables us to open up schools in

2241
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:40,340
the fall.

2242
01:24:40,620 --> 01:24:42,680
Yeah, he's talking about our current stage four

2243
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,880
orange on the city's COVID chart.

2244
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,920
Everyone is struggling to find a way to

2245
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,820
get our school kids back in the classroom.

2246
01:24:48,820 --> 01:24:52,200
The mayor sees this plan as one possibility,

2247
01:24:52,660 --> 01:24:54,260
but it would have to start pretty soon.

2248
01:24:54,780 --> 01:24:56,300
And just how long would we be in

2249
01:24:56,300 --> 01:24:59,220
this extended period of our best behavior?

2250
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:03,160
Well, according to the mayor, until a vaccine

2251
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,700
is available for everyone, it'll be that long.

2252
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:11,140
I doubt seriously that any vaccine will ever

2253
01:25:11,140 --> 01:25:12,820
be 100% protected.

2254
01:25:12,940 --> 01:25:15,480
The best we've ever done is measles, which

2255
01:25:15,480 --> 01:25:18,080
is 97 to 98% effective.

2256
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:22,040
If only, say, 70, 75% of Americans

2257
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,000
are willing to get the vaccine, and it's

2258
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,480
only, say, I think you just said 70,

2259
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,920
75% effective, is that going to get

2260
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:29,800
us to herd immunity?

2261
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:31,680
Unlikely.

2262
01:25:31,820 --> 01:25:33,980
And that's one of the reasons why we

2263
01:25:33,980 --> 01:25:36,260
have to make sure we engage the community,

2264
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,740
as we're doing now, to get community people

2265
01:25:39,740 --> 01:25:43,120
to help us, for people to understand that

2266
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,080
we are doing everything we can to show

2267
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:46,700
that it's safe and that it's effective.

2268
01:25:47,340 --> 01:25:48,920
And it's for the good of them as

2269
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:53,160
individuals and in society to take the vaccine.

2270
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:54,340
So we have a lot of work to

2271
01:25:54,340 --> 01:25:56,760
do, because as you well know, we've spoken

2272
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,280
about this intensively in the past, there is

2273
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,760
a general anti-science, anti-authority, anti-vaccine

2274
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:06,420
feeling among some people in this country, an

2275
01:26:06,420 --> 01:26:10,000
alarmingly large percentage of people, relatively speaking.

2276
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:14,420
The serious child abuse emergency room visits are

2277
01:26:14,420 --> 01:26:17,200
up 35% during the lockdown.

2278
01:26:17,660 --> 01:26:19,020
Now, let me tell you what that means.

2279
01:26:19,100 --> 01:26:20,260
This is very important.

2280
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,340
Somebody who brings in their child to the

2281
01:26:23,340 --> 01:26:26,120
emergency room, that's not because they smacked them

2282
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:27,540
around and gave them a black eye.

2283
01:26:28,740 --> 01:26:31,240
I'm saying this with sadness.

2284
01:26:31,780 --> 01:26:34,220
These emergency room visits are for children who

2285
01:26:34,220 --> 01:26:36,160
the parents think they might have killed them.

2286
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:37,420
They're unresponsive.

2287
01:26:37,460 --> 01:26:38,820
They have multiple broken bones.

2288
01:26:38,820 --> 01:26:42,220
These are the most serious 35% increase

2289
01:26:42,220 --> 01:26:45,320
in child abuse, and that's directly due to

2290
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,000
the lockdown.

2291
01:26:46,180 --> 01:26:47,300
And I'll explain why.

2292
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,060
Because when you lose your job, the correlation

2293
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:53,180
of amount of child abuse found in a

2294
01:26:53,180 --> 01:26:56,780
home is directly correlated for lower socioeconomic group,

2295
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,940
unemployment, alcohol abuse.

2296
01:26:59,140 --> 01:27:02,160
This is markedly increasing during the lockdown when

2297
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,060
we know that almost half of people making

2298
01:27:05,060 --> 01:27:07,180
$40,000 a year or less lost their

2299
01:27:07,180 --> 01:27:07,560
jobs.

2300
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,200
By far more than people like you and

2301
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:10,480
I.

2302
01:27:10,940 --> 01:27:13,680
And so when these people have children and

2303
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,740
the schools are closed, and there's a tremendous

2304
01:27:15,740 --> 01:27:19,360
amount of stress in the household, we know

2305
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,180
that the emergency room visits are going way

2306
01:27:21,180 --> 01:27:21,340
up.

2307
01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:22,580
And that's only part A.

2308
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,960
Part B is that, do you know where

2309
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,560
the number one place that child abuse is

2310
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,680
noticed by an outside person?

2311
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:30,560
The school.

2312
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,520
You close the schools, you have no visibility

2313
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,540
on the overwhelming majority of child abuse.

2314
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:41,500
So this is creating a really a catastrophic,

2315
01:27:42,140 --> 01:27:46,680
sad, and simply unspoken harm to the children.

2316
01:27:47,340 --> 01:27:49,240
You realize, by the way, I didn't mention

2317
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,200
in that, and this is in the article,

2318
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,520
that when children go to school, that's the

2319
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,340
number one place where people with children with

2320
01:27:56,340 --> 01:27:58,440
need glasses are detected.

2321
01:27:58,740 --> 01:28:00,160
Children that need hearing aids.

2322
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,040
I mean, the schools are- The kids,

2323
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:03,200
the school lunch program.

2324
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:04,820
For some kids, it's the best meal they

2325
01:28:04,820 --> 01:28:05,420
get all day.

2326
01:28:06,660 --> 01:28:11,420
When you shut schools, you're really, and there's

2327
01:28:11,420 --> 01:28:12,560
no risk to the children.

2328
01:28:12,700 --> 01:28:14,920
Again, there's zero risk to the children.

2329
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,880
You are directly harming children.

2330
01:28:18,060 --> 01:28:20,580
I don't understand how people who claim to

2331
01:28:20,580 --> 01:28:24,840
be so focused on children, teachers, teachers unions,

2332
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,280
I think it's really outrageous.

2333
01:28:27,460 --> 01:28:30,080
This will go down as the most heinous

2334
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:35,180
misapplication of public policy in modern America.

2335
01:28:36,060 --> 01:28:39,080
Hospitals on healthcare workers, paramedics and doctors and

2336
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,000
nurses, it's really taking a toll on the

2337
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,000
nation and the healthcare system in general.

2338
01:28:43,380 --> 01:28:47,460
Especially with the increased number of hospitalizations and

2339
01:28:47,460 --> 01:28:50,160
cases, it puts a strain during July, which

2340
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,620
is a very important time of the year

2341
01:28:51,620 --> 01:28:54,180
because we tend to see more deaths in

2342
01:28:54,180 --> 01:28:56,200
the month of July because of the new

2343
01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:00,180
healthcare professionals that are entering the residency program.

2344
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:01,700
So we've got a lot to do.

2345
01:29:01,700 --> 01:29:03,300
It comes down to simple- Wait a

2346
01:29:03,300 --> 01:29:03,400
minute.

2347
01:29:03,540 --> 01:29:05,320
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop, stop, stop.

2348
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,260
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

2349
01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:09,580
You're about to make something really important point

2350
01:29:09,580 --> 01:29:10,100
about masks.

2351
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:11,340
But what did you tell me?

2352
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,460
You just said that in the month of

2353
01:29:13,460 --> 01:29:15,840
July, you see death rates increase because you've

2354
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:20,180
got new students or medical professionals coming online.

2355
01:29:20,620 --> 01:29:20,800
Sure.

2356
01:29:21,060 --> 01:29:24,180
So yes, July is when, yes, July is

2357
01:29:24,180 --> 01:29:27,000
typically the month where we have people who

2358
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,520
pay doctors, they graduate medical school and they

2359
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:30,320
enter residency.

2360
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,160
So sometimes we tend to see increase in

2361
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,840
the rate of medical errors and deaths.

2362
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,960
That's something that is well known in the

2363
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:39,620
medical field.

2364
01:29:40,140 --> 01:29:41,640
So that just goes to show you, we

2365
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,320
have the burden of this virus with new

2366
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:45,200
doctors on board.

2367
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,180
Of course, they're always being supervised by professional,

2368
01:29:48,340 --> 01:29:49,280
well-trained doctors.

2369
01:29:49,700 --> 01:29:51,720
But something to keep in mind is simple

2370
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,640
measures of protecting yourself so you don't have

2371
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,660
to enter the hospital, not only because it's

2372
01:29:55,660 --> 01:29:57,720
July, but we also have another holiday that

2373
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,240
we're approaching, 4th of July next week.

2374
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,020
We don't want to see a remake of

2375
01:30:02,020 --> 01:30:04,100
increasing the number of cases like we did

2376
01:30:04,100 --> 01:30:05,080
with Memorial Day.

2377
01:30:05,420 --> 01:30:07,620
But again, just simple measures of wearing your

2378
01:30:07,620 --> 01:30:11,840
mask, a facial cloth covering, physical distancing, avoiding

2379
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,740
crowds, and keeping your hands washed and clean

2380
01:30:14,740 --> 01:30:15,960
until we get a vaccine.

2381
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,520
That's the only way to eradicate this virus.

2382
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:22,080
So it appears that 90% of the

2383
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:26,480
hospital or of the beds that's possibly available

2384
01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:28,920
for COVID patients is occupied.

2385
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,320
Well, that's actually not accurate.

2386
01:30:30,780 --> 01:30:33,140
What it means is the current phase that

2387
01:30:33,140 --> 01:30:36,140
the hospital is in has a 90%

2388
01:30:36,140 --> 01:30:39,320
occupancy for that particular phase.

2389
01:30:39,460 --> 01:30:42,080
According to NMED Hospital, COVID-19 patients only

2390
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,740
make up about 6% of all current

2391
01:30:44,740 --> 01:30:45,400
patients.

2392
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,880
NMED released this statement in WIFF News 4

2393
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,400
regarding the numbers, saying in part, when our

2394
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,600
census dropped significantly at the beginning of the

2395
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,380
COVID-19 outbreak, we appropriately reduced the number

2396
01:30:55,380 --> 01:30:56,740
of staff beds we report.

2397
01:30:56,740 --> 01:30:58,900
The fact that our occupancy is high means

2398
01:30:58,900 --> 01:31:00,600
we are doing a good job of matching

2399
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,260
our resources to the level of demand during

2400
01:31:03,260 --> 01:31:04,380
this crisis.

2401
01:31:04,540 --> 01:31:06,920
Of course, you just heard McMaster mention how

2402
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:08,880
we need and want more people to start

2403
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,080
wearing masks and social distancing here in South

2404
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:11,500
Carolina.

2405
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,240
The people of Anderson County reiterating that same

2406
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:15,860
idea.

2407
01:31:15,940 --> 01:31:17,520
Josh, I'm sure you would like to talk

2408
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,620
to this lady because she's very pleasant.

2409
01:31:21,810 --> 01:31:24,050
Well, trying to get a hold of anyone

2410
01:31:24,050 --> 01:31:26,410
in this office is just ridiculous.

2411
01:31:27,370 --> 01:31:29,970
Yes, I have some questions about town.

2412
01:31:30,730 --> 01:31:35,230
Are people and businesses in Grants Pass supposed

2413
01:31:35,230 --> 01:31:36,330
to wear masks?

2414
01:31:36,710 --> 01:31:40,490
Because they're not wearing masks over at the

2415
01:31:40,490 --> 01:31:44,110
little subway place up north of town.

2416
01:31:44,470 --> 01:31:47,130
You got a kid drawing your drink and

2417
01:31:47,130 --> 01:31:48,910
he's giving it because he can't wear a

2418
01:31:48,910 --> 01:31:49,230
mask.

2419
01:31:49,530 --> 01:31:52,030
I mean, aren't restaurant workers supposed to wear

2420
01:31:52,030 --> 01:31:52,410
masks?

2421
01:31:52,410 --> 01:31:55,010
And why isn't the guy up there at

2422
01:31:56,110 --> 01:31:59,110
the little pantry up north of town right

2423
01:31:59,110 --> 01:32:00,690
before you get on the freeway?

2424
01:32:00,990 --> 01:32:03,710
Why isn't he wearing a mask when he's

2425
01:32:03,710 --> 01:32:05,330
working while he's coughing?

2426
01:32:06,170 --> 01:32:08,450
Are masks required at people who work?

2427
01:32:08,630 --> 01:32:10,550
Because maybe you better get out and do

2428
01:32:10,550 --> 01:32:11,870
your goddamn job.

2429
01:32:13,790 --> 01:32:16,250
Some employees at a Whole Foods in Cambridge

2430
01:32:16,250 --> 01:32:19,290
wearing masks with a message, but the store

2431
01:32:19,290 --> 01:32:22,250
sent them home saying wearing those masks violates

2432
01:32:22,250 --> 01:32:23,350
the company's policy.

2433
01:32:23,910 --> 01:32:26,310
We are simply asking to support what they

2434
01:32:26,310 --> 01:32:29,930
say they support and really support each other.

2435
01:32:30,330 --> 01:32:31,690
That's really all it is.

2436
01:32:31,870 --> 01:32:32,330
It's basic.

2437
01:32:32,530 --> 01:32:32,870
It's simple.

2438
01:32:33,330 --> 01:32:33,630
Matter.

2439
01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:35,670
Black lives matter.

2440
01:32:36,110 --> 01:32:38,450
This Cambridge Whole Foods employee puts on a

2441
01:32:38,450 --> 01:32:40,790
Black Lives Matter mask while making a delivery

2442
01:32:40,790 --> 01:32:42,610
outside the River Street store.

2443
01:32:43,090 --> 01:32:45,510
Employees say they've chosen to walk out for

2444
01:32:45,510 --> 01:32:47,150
not being allowed to wear them.

2445
01:32:47,890 --> 01:32:50,090
They told us that we are violating dress

2446
01:32:50,090 --> 01:32:52,950
code and we stated to them that we're

2447
01:32:52,950 --> 01:32:55,530
allowed to wear brands that are industry affiliated.

2448
01:32:55,770 --> 01:32:58,830
Wednesday, Savannah Kinzer says seven employees were sent

2449
01:32:58,830 --> 01:33:01,010
home another 13 Thursday.

2450
01:33:01,510 --> 01:33:04,390
Whole Foods Market responding, saying in part, all

2451
01:33:04,390 --> 01:33:07,330
team members must comply with our longstanding company

2452
01:33:07,330 --> 01:33:10,590
dress code, which prohibits clothing with visible slogans,

2453
01:33:10,830 --> 01:33:14,310
messages, logos, or advertising that are not company

2454
01:33:14,310 --> 01:33:14,750
related.

2455
01:33:14,750 --> 01:33:17,890
The company says employees are offered compliant masks

2456
01:33:17,890 --> 01:33:19,670
and if they don't want to wear one,

2457
01:33:19,790 --> 01:33:20,570
they can't work.

2458
01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:22,930
Kinzer says she's run out of the 85

2459
01:33:22,930 --> 01:33:25,010
masks they've given out so far.

2460
01:33:25,350 --> 01:33:27,530
She says the face covering is not a

2461
01:33:27,530 --> 01:33:28,510
political statement.

2462
01:33:29,090 --> 01:33:31,510
We're going to continue this and we hope

2463
01:33:31,510 --> 01:33:33,710
to just normalize it and we hope that

2464
01:33:33,710 --> 01:33:35,650
it empowers other people, other stores to do

2465
01:33:35,650 --> 01:33:35,950
it too.

2466
01:33:36,030 --> 01:33:38,550
Because again, it's not about politics.

2467
01:33:38,670 --> 01:33:43,150
It's simply about inclusion and equity and making

2468
01:33:43,150 --> 01:33:44,530
sure that everyone feels welcome.

2469
01:33:44,750 --> 01:33:45,390
At Whole Foods.

2470
01:33:47,630 --> 01:33:48,510
Oh, brother.

2471
01:33:49,470 --> 01:33:52,310
You remember, I just forgot about flatten the

2472
01:33:52,310 --> 01:33:52,670
curve.

2473
01:33:53,170 --> 01:33:53,930
Flatten the curve, everybody.

2474
01:33:54,050 --> 01:33:54,490
Let's do it.

2475
01:33:54,530 --> 01:33:55,030
We can do it.

2476
01:33:55,050 --> 01:33:55,970
We can all work together.

2477
01:33:56,590 --> 01:33:58,390
Was it going to be two weeks to

2478
01:33:58,390 --> 01:33:59,010
flatten the curve?

2479
01:33:59,130 --> 01:34:00,710
Was it 10 days?

2480
01:34:01,010 --> 01:34:02,770
I think it started off as two weeks.

2481
01:34:02,910 --> 01:34:03,030
Yeah.

2482
01:34:03,230 --> 01:34:05,130
Oh man, it's unbelievable.

2483
01:34:05,670 --> 01:34:07,490
And I remember that Tina and I were

2484
01:34:07,490 --> 01:34:10,210
in Austin still in the other house and

2485
01:34:10,210 --> 01:34:12,290
I was glued to the TV and then

2486
01:34:12,290 --> 01:34:14,610
this flatten the curve came up and it

2487
01:34:14,610 --> 01:34:16,510
was just so obvious that this was not

2488
01:34:16,510 --> 01:34:17,310
going to be good.

2489
01:34:17,390 --> 01:34:18,650
It was not going to be a good

2490
01:34:18,650 --> 01:34:18,890
thing.

2491
01:34:19,250 --> 01:34:21,090
It was really bad.

2492
01:34:21,550 --> 01:34:22,710
It was unbelievable.

2493
01:34:23,550 --> 01:34:23,890
Okay.

2494
01:34:23,970 --> 01:34:24,770
You're still with us.

2495
01:34:24,830 --> 01:34:25,670
We appreciate it.

2496
01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:28,410
Of course, we will be thanking everybody who

2497
01:34:28,410 --> 01:34:30,670
supported this show and our next show.

2498
01:34:30,850 --> 01:34:31,210
We'll do that.

2499
01:34:31,290 --> 01:34:33,110
We'll do a double donation segment on the

2500
01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:34,370
next show as we usually do.

2501
01:34:35,750 --> 01:34:38,330
And what are you planning on doing while

2502
01:34:38,330 --> 01:34:39,490
I am traveling?

2503
01:34:40,770 --> 01:34:43,510
Well, I'll probably just lounge.

2504
01:34:43,870 --> 01:34:44,550
I don't know.

2505
01:34:44,590 --> 01:34:45,450
I just lounge.

2506
01:34:45,690 --> 01:34:46,390
Maybe I'll go shopping.

2507
01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:47,430
I'll not go shopping.

2508
01:34:47,470 --> 01:34:49,310
That's why I go shopping in real stores.

2509
01:34:49,530 --> 01:34:51,470
Real stores that you walk into.

2510
01:34:51,650 --> 01:34:54,670
I'll go shopping at the Macy's store in

2511
01:34:54,670 --> 01:34:55,210
San Francisco.

2512
01:34:55,430 --> 01:34:56,410
They're shutting it down.

2513
01:34:56,570 --> 01:34:58,550
And it's a big giant store in Union

2514
01:34:58,550 --> 01:34:58,730
Square.

2515
01:34:59,470 --> 01:35:00,610
They're shutting that one down?

2516
01:35:00,850 --> 01:35:03,390
They're shutting it down for good because Macy's

2517
01:35:03,390 --> 01:35:04,730
doesn't know what they're doing.

2518
01:35:04,910 --> 01:35:06,770
That was the only reason for going to

2519
01:35:06,770 --> 01:35:07,450
Union Square.

2520
01:35:07,450 --> 01:35:09,590
Well, now there's going to be no reason

2521
01:35:09,590 --> 01:35:10,110
to go.

2522
01:35:10,290 --> 01:35:12,290
So I'm going to go there and do

2523
01:35:12,290 --> 01:35:12,930
some shopping.

2524
01:35:13,090 --> 01:35:14,450
If I can see what there is, there's

2525
01:35:14,450 --> 01:35:16,810
really not much more than perfume there the

2526
01:35:16,810 --> 01:35:17,510
way I see it.

2527
01:35:17,990 --> 01:35:18,850
But I'll go shopping.

2528
01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:21,390
It'll be the last Christmas at Macy's.

2529
01:35:21,430 --> 01:35:23,490
Do you think they'll turn that into apartments

2530
01:35:23,490 --> 01:35:24,970
like they're doing in other malls?

2531
01:35:25,170 --> 01:35:26,210
Like other stores?

2532
01:35:27,050 --> 01:35:28,770
It's such a good place for retail.

2533
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:30,610
But the place is kind of...

2534
01:35:30,610 --> 01:35:31,210
Clearly not.

2535
01:35:31,330 --> 01:35:33,230
That building was built for Macy's.

2536
01:35:33,350 --> 01:35:35,690
It was like a corner store.

2537
01:35:35,930 --> 01:35:36,870
I don't know what they're going to do.

2538
01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:37,430
That's horrible.

2539
01:35:37,910 --> 01:35:39,670
San Francisco's a mess.

2540
01:35:39,910 --> 01:35:40,250
That's right.

2541
01:35:40,430 --> 01:35:42,990
And now we have the new mayor who

2542
01:35:42,990 --> 01:35:44,210
I thought was kind of a...

2543
01:35:44,990 --> 01:35:47,190
He's a Democrat, but he's going to be

2544
01:35:47,190 --> 01:35:48,230
cracking down.

2545
01:35:48,330 --> 01:35:50,150
He's going to Trump-proof San Francisco.

2546
01:35:50,470 --> 01:35:51,050
Oh boy.

2547
01:35:51,270 --> 01:35:53,430
To protect the gay community, by the way,

2548
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:54,530
from being deported.

2549
01:35:54,770 --> 01:35:56,250
That's what he said on television.

2550
01:35:56,830 --> 01:35:58,450
He's going to deport the gays?

2551
01:35:58,890 --> 01:36:00,830
Well, that's what they think Trump's going to

2552
01:36:00,830 --> 01:36:00,990
do.

2553
01:36:01,230 --> 01:36:02,710
So these people are nuts.

2554
01:36:02,890 --> 01:36:04,490
And so the Macy's, I'll go there and

2555
01:36:04,490 --> 01:36:06,370
then I'll feel bad about it.

2556
01:36:07,430 --> 01:36:08,410
So that's what I'm going to do while

2557
01:36:08,410 --> 01:36:08,910
you're gone.

2558
01:36:09,670 --> 01:36:11,610
And I do want to remind people that

2559
01:36:11,610 --> 01:36:13,650
since this is a donation segment, that if

2560
01:36:13,650 --> 01:36:14,350
they're going to...

2561
01:36:15,050 --> 01:36:19,290
Just thinking about this particular COVID moment.

2562
01:36:20,270 --> 01:36:23,070
Remember when that all happened and how the

2563
01:36:23,070 --> 01:36:23,750
show helped.

2564
01:36:24,110 --> 01:36:25,110
Helped the show.

2565
01:36:26,750 --> 01:36:27,070
Yes.

2566
01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:29,310
Noagendadonations.com, please.

2567
01:36:29,650 --> 01:36:29,770
Yes.

2568
01:36:30,030 --> 01:36:30,510
Noagendadonations.com.

2569
01:36:30,530 --> 01:36:32,950
Everyone's always saying we helped them during this.

2570
01:36:33,150 --> 01:36:34,330
And it would be great if you...

2571
01:36:34,330 --> 01:36:35,910
Yeah, I just want to remind everybody.

2572
01:36:36,170 --> 01:36:36,730
Good idea.

2573
01:36:36,730 --> 01:36:39,470
Now, let's go back to when the cops

2574
01:36:39,470 --> 01:36:42,310
were just swarming the cities because we had

2575
01:36:42,310 --> 01:36:43,830
to make sure everyone was wearing a mask.

2576
01:36:43,950 --> 01:36:44,450
Mask up.

2577
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:45,410
Remember that?

2578
01:36:45,570 --> 01:36:45,930
Mask up.

2579
01:36:46,210 --> 01:36:46,410
Mask up.

2580
01:36:46,690 --> 01:36:47,590
Yeah, it was the worst.

2581
01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:48,710
Social distancing.

2582
01:36:49,050 --> 01:36:49,830
Stay away, slave.

2583
01:36:49,950 --> 01:36:50,430
Mask up.

2584
01:36:50,810 --> 01:36:52,770
Back to Strokey Bills.

2585
01:36:52,950 --> 01:36:55,270
Best if there is such a thing of

2586
01:36:55,270 --> 01:36:55,610
COVID.

2587
01:36:57,870 --> 01:37:00,470
You have been doing these for the past

2588
01:37:00,470 --> 01:37:02,870
month, which has put you in contact with

2589
01:37:02,870 --> 01:37:03,450
more people.

2590
01:37:03,450 --> 01:37:06,190
Have you been tested for coronavirus?

2591
01:37:06,690 --> 01:37:08,230
And if so, how frequently are you doing

2592
01:37:08,230 --> 01:37:08,510
that?

2593
01:37:08,990 --> 01:37:10,950
No, I have not been protected.

2594
01:37:11,610 --> 01:37:14,030
I have not been tested for the coronavirus

2595
01:37:14,030 --> 01:37:15,530
for two reasons.

2596
01:37:15,990 --> 01:37:19,370
One, I've had no symptoms, as my mother

2597
01:37:19,370 --> 01:37:20,570
would say, knock on wood.

2598
01:37:21,090 --> 01:37:23,410
And number two, I haven't wanted to take

2599
01:37:23,410 --> 01:37:26,010
anybody else's place in the process.

2600
01:37:26,590 --> 01:37:27,770
But it's not to say that people aren't

2601
01:37:27,770 --> 01:37:28,150
dying.

2602
01:37:28,290 --> 01:37:29,750
It is actually to say that people are

2603
01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:30,110
dying.

2604
01:37:30,110 --> 01:37:32,530
And people are dying related to an exposure

2605
01:37:32,530 --> 01:37:34,070
to a respiratory virus.

2606
01:37:34,290 --> 01:37:36,810
There's huge problems with our diagnostic tool here.

2607
01:37:36,950 --> 01:37:39,770
PCR is the tool that's been used globally

2608
01:37:39,770 --> 01:37:42,190
to determine if somebody has COVID or not.

2609
01:37:42,770 --> 01:37:45,570
And PCR stands for polymerase chain reaction.

2610
01:37:45,850 --> 01:37:49,230
It's an amplification technique for finding small amounts

2611
01:37:49,230 --> 01:37:49,650
of DNA.

2612
01:37:50,370 --> 01:37:52,750
It is a very big dilemma because the

2613
01:37:52,750 --> 01:37:54,770
presence of that DNA doesn't mean you're ever

2614
01:37:54,770 --> 01:37:56,210
going to get sick from that virus.

2615
01:37:56,670 --> 01:37:58,410
Most of us will have that DNA in

2616
01:37:58,410 --> 01:38:00,150
our bloodstream for a period of time as

2617
01:38:00,150 --> 01:38:01,750
we go into our genetic update.

2618
01:38:02,370 --> 01:38:04,610
As we're taking this virus in, we proliferate

2619
01:38:04,610 --> 01:38:06,250
the virus to get it into enough cells

2620
01:38:06,250 --> 01:38:06,670
in the body.

2621
01:38:06,750 --> 01:38:08,750
And then we reach homeostasis, where we've taken

2622
01:38:08,750 --> 01:38:10,290
in enough of that genetic information that we

2623
01:38:10,290 --> 01:38:11,430
stop making it.

2624
01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:13,690
Or we make tiny amounts of it.

2625
01:38:14,110 --> 01:38:16,910
And so that balance with that DNA has

2626
01:38:16,910 --> 01:38:18,290
nothing to do with whether we're in a

2627
01:38:18,290 --> 01:38:19,230
developed disease or not.

2628
01:38:19,610 --> 01:38:22,830
Again, most people exposed to COVID were asymptomatic

2629
01:38:22,830 --> 01:38:24,390
or mildly symptomatic.

2630
01:38:25,010 --> 01:38:27,030
And so the presence of the DNA has

2631
01:38:27,030 --> 01:38:28,690
nothing to do with whether that person is

2632
01:38:28,690 --> 01:38:29,970
going to die in the coming months.

2633
01:38:30,290 --> 01:38:31,450
Well, let's talk about vaccines.

2634
01:38:31,630 --> 01:38:34,430
The world is abuzz about vaccines as the

2635
01:38:34,430 --> 01:38:36,910
way in which we might ultimately get past

2636
01:38:36,910 --> 01:38:38,810
this and have a chance to go back

2637
01:38:38,810 --> 01:38:41,510
to something approaching normal life, where we can

2638
01:38:41,510 --> 01:38:43,630
all be back together again because this risk

2639
01:38:43,630 --> 01:38:44,430
won't be so high.

2640
01:38:44,910 --> 01:38:47,390
Where are we, Tony, with the vaccine efforts

2641
01:38:47,390 --> 01:38:50,430
that have been moving forward at unprecedented speed?

2642
01:38:50,950 --> 01:38:53,210
But of course, they are full of scientific

2643
01:38:53,210 --> 01:38:53,890
challenges.

2644
01:38:54,230 --> 01:38:55,010
Tell us about that.

2645
01:38:55,010 --> 01:38:57,150
Yeah, I think the first thing people need

2646
01:38:57,150 --> 01:39:00,590
to understand, that although timetables are given, whenever

2647
01:39:00,590 --> 01:39:03,910
you're dealing with a vaccine development, there's never

2648
01:39:03,910 --> 01:39:06,910
a guarantee that your candidate will be both

2649
01:39:06,910 --> 01:39:08,350
safe and effective.

2650
01:39:08,630 --> 01:39:10,710
So there's always the big question mark.

2651
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:13,870
However, assuming that there will be one and

2652
01:39:13,870 --> 01:39:17,510
maybe more safe and effective vaccines, here's where

2653
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:18,570
we are with the timeline.

2654
01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:23,390
There are multiple candidates using different platforms, several

2655
01:39:23,390 --> 01:39:25,950
of which the United States government and the

2656
01:39:25,950 --> 01:39:27,070
NIH itself.

2657
01:39:27,650 --> 01:39:30,970
We are involved in helping to facilitate the

2658
01:39:30,970 --> 01:39:34,490
development, either directly or indirectly with our sites.

2659
01:39:34,810 --> 01:39:36,710
If things go the way it looks like

2660
01:39:36,710 --> 01:39:39,570
they're going, one of these candidates will enter

2661
01:39:39,570 --> 01:39:43,910
phase three trial for efficacy at the end

2662
01:39:43,910 --> 01:39:44,690
of July.

2663
01:39:45,170 --> 01:39:47,670
Other candidates will sequentially come in.

2664
01:39:47,930 --> 01:39:50,110
Another one at the end of August, one

2665
01:39:50,110 --> 01:39:52,230
in September, and one in October.

2666
01:39:52,230 --> 01:39:55,810
It will be important to encourage people to

2667
01:39:55,810 --> 01:39:56,230
enroll.

2668
01:39:56,470 --> 01:39:58,410
So people who are watching this right now

2669
01:39:58,410 --> 01:40:01,210
might want to pay attention in two or

2670
01:40:01,210 --> 01:40:03,670
three weeks to announcements that there might be

2671
01:40:03,670 --> 01:40:06,990
a vaccine trial enrollment somewhere in your neighborhood,

2672
01:40:07,310 --> 01:40:10,330
because we will depend on the public to

2673
01:40:10,330 --> 01:40:12,570
sign up and help us figure this out.

2674
01:40:13,210 --> 01:40:13,910
Let's be clear.

2675
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:16,890
These vaccines have already gone through phase one

2676
01:40:16,890 --> 01:40:17,970
and phase two trials.

2677
01:40:18,090 --> 01:40:20,270
So we know that they've been safe for

2678
01:40:20,270 --> 01:40:22,350
a significant number of individuals, and we know

2679
01:40:22,350 --> 01:40:23,910
that they seem to be capable of raising

2680
01:40:23,910 --> 01:40:26,490
antibodies, but we haven't actually done the real

2681
01:40:26,490 --> 01:40:28,690
testing in the field that is going to

2682
01:40:28,690 --> 01:40:30,910
be in the so-called phase three trials.

2683
01:40:31,250 --> 01:40:34,110
But particularly, Tony, it seems to me, because

2684
01:40:34,110 --> 01:40:37,890
this disease, COVID-19, has hit particular groups

2685
01:40:37,890 --> 01:40:40,730
really hard, and I'm talking about older people,

2686
01:40:40,850 --> 01:40:45,130
people with chronic disease, African Americans, Latinos, we

2687
01:40:45,130 --> 01:40:47,610
want to be sure that the vaccine enrollment

2688
01:40:47,610 --> 01:40:49,910
includes those folks as well.

2689
01:40:49,910 --> 01:40:53,210
Are there ways, based on past experience, where

2690
01:40:53,210 --> 01:40:55,750
we are sure that outreach will work and

2691
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:57,530
we will get people to sign up from

2692
01:40:57,530 --> 01:40:58,090
those groups?

2693
01:40:59,750 --> 01:41:01,270
Well, thank you, Francis.

2694
01:41:01,430 --> 01:41:04,330
What Dr. Collins was referring to, leading me

2695
01:41:04,330 --> 01:41:06,630
into the answer to the question, was that

2696
01:41:06,630 --> 01:41:12,570
this is something that we have done with

2697
01:41:12,570 --> 01:41:14,050
all our HIV trials.

2698
01:41:14,150 --> 01:41:15,550
There is an analogy here.

2699
01:41:15,550 --> 01:41:19,230
When you're dealing with HIV, there's a disparity

2700
01:41:19,230 --> 01:41:21,830
of susceptibility, of involvement.

2701
01:41:22,110 --> 01:41:25,530
Thirteen percent of the American population is African

2702
01:41:25,530 --> 01:41:28,330
American, and 45 to 50 percent of the

2703
01:41:28,330 --> 01:41:28,930
new infections.

2704
01:41:29,090 --> 01:41:32,130
So whenever we do treatment and prevention trials

2705
01:41:32,130 --> 01:41:36,290
through our networks, we outreach through community representatives

2706
01:41:36,290 --> 01:41:38,110
and community outreach.

2707
01:41:38,350 --> 01:41:40,950
We're going to use that same model to

2708
01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:42,930
do the same thing for the African American,

2709
01:41:42,930 --> 01:41:45,770
Latinx, and Native American populations.

2710
01:41:46,230 --> 01:41:48,510
In fact, Francis and I, right now, are

2711
01:41:48,510 --> 01:41:51,950
very heavily involved in making sure that the

2712
01:41:51,950 --> 01:41:56,090
trials are quite well represented by the individuals

2713
01:41:56,090 --> 01:41:59,070
who are most susceptible, not only to infection

2714
01:41:59,070 --> 01:42:02,310
because of certain circumstances in their life, but

2715
01:42:02,310 --> 01:42:04,470
also because of the fact that they are

2716
01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:09,110
more prone to complications because of underlying comorbidities.

2717
01:42:09,110 --> 01:42:12,190
It's a major goal of the trial to

2718
01:42:12,190 --> 01:42:14,650
be properly represented, and that's what we're going

2719
01:42:14,650 --> 01:42:16,770
to make certainly a high priority.

2720
01:42:17,450 --> 01:42:19,630
Coming back to the vaccines, I keep getting

2721
01:42:19,630 --> 01:42:22,670
asked, Tony, okay, so suppose this all looks

2722
01:42:22,670 --> 01:42:24,570
really good and you have a vaccine that's

2723
01:42:24,570 --> 01:42:27,490
safe and effective and we start immunizing people.

2724
01:42:27,950 --> 01:42:30,070
How long will that protection last?

2725
01:42:30,230 --> 01:42:33,230
When you've got a vaccine, are you going

2726
01:42:33,230 --> 01:42:35,590
to need to take it again a year

2727
01:42:35,590 --> 01:42:35,910
later?

2728
01:42:35,910 --> 01:42:37,610
I mean, like the flu, where you have

2729
01:42:37,610 --> 01:42:39,810
to have a shot every year, or will

2730
01:42:39,810 --> 01:42:40,770
you get a boost or not?

2731
01:42:40,830 --> 01:42:41,470
What do you think?

2732
01:42:42,290 --> 01:42:44,390
Well, this is, Francis, a great question, and

2733
01:42:44,390 --> 01:42:45,590
it's the reason why we have to be

2734
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:46,810
humble about what we do.

2735
01:42:47,150 --> 01:42:48,970
We do not know the answer to that.

2736
01:42:49,330 --> 01:42:50,230
We do not know.

2737
01:42:50,630 --> 01:42:52,690
I mean, you can assume that you're going

2738
01:42:52,690 --> 01:42:54,450
to get protection at least to take us

2739
01:42:54,450 --> 01:42:55,230
through this cycle.

2740
01:42:55,490 --> 01:42:57,650
When you look at natural infection, it's anywhere

2741
01:42:57,650 --> 01:42:59,690
between six months to a year.

2742
01:43:00,250 --> 01:43:03,610
However, with this spike protein that's being presented

2743
01:43:03,610 --> 01:43:05,230
in the way that we do it, with

2744
01:43:05,230 --> 01:43:07,730
primes and in some cases boosts, we're going

2745
01:43:07,730 --> 01:43:10,230
to assume that there's a degree of protection,

2746
01:43:10,730 --> 01:43:12,010
but we have to assume that it's going

2747
01:43:12,010 --> 01:43:12,610
to be finite.

2748
01:43:13,110 --> 01:43:14,610
It's not going to be like a measles

2749
01:43:14,610 --> 01:43:15,110
vaccine.

2750
01:43:15,650 --> 01:43:17,090
So there's going to be follow-up in

2751
01:43:17,090 --> 01:43:19,110
those cases to see if we might need

2752
01:43:19,110 --> 01:43:19,550
a boost.

2753
01:43:19,790 --> 01:43:22,270
We may need a boost to continue the

2754
01:43:22,270 --> 01:43:22,730
protection.

2755
01:43:23,030 --> 01:43:24,690
But right now, we do not know how

2756
01:43:24,690 --> 01:43:25,570
long it lasts.

2757
01:43:25,910 --> 01:43:29,070
Herd immunity is something that we've been supporting,

2758
01:43:29,490 --> 01:43:31,470
and nature supports that.

2759
01:43:31,470 --> 01:43:34,170
Herd immunity to COVID-19 is just around

2760
01:43:34,170 --> 01:43:37,070
the corner, new studies say, suggesting humans are

2761
01:43:37,070 --> 01:43:40,150
rapidly building natural protections against the virus.

2762
01:43:40,550 --> 01:43:42,670
That's according to at least two new studies

2763
01:43:42,670 --> 01:43:45,590
by the Karolinska Institute in Sweden and the

2764
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:47,930
University Hospital Tübingen in Germany.

2765
01:43:48,290 --> 01:43:50,830
The studies find at least 30 percent of

2766
01:43:50,830 --> 01:43:54,150
humans now have COVID-specific antibodies, which means

2767
01:43:54,150 --> 01:43:56,530
they've been exposed to weak samples of the

2768
01:43:56,530 --> 01:43:59,690
virus and effectively equals a natural vaccine.

2769
01:43:59,690 --> 01:44:02,530
Herd immunity is essentially here, it's coming.

2770
01:44:02,830 --> 01:44:04,590
Like yesterday, when you put up the chart

2771
01:44:04,590 --> 01:44:07,550
to show where the death levels were from

2772
01:44:07,550 --> 01:44:10,410
the coronavirus, which is down to zero, I

2773
01:44:10,410 --> 01:44:12,250
said, well, maybe the epidemic is over.

2774
01:44:12,390 --> 01:44:13,970
We still need people to wear the mask

2775
01:44:13,970 --> 01:44:14,430
in public.

2776
01:44:14,570 --> 01:44:16,390
We still need people to keep social distance

2777
01:44:16,390 --> 01:44:17,050
and isolation.

2778
01:44:17,410 --> 01:44:18,350
But Ryan, the one thing I want to

2779
01:44:18,350 --> 01:44:20,150
try to get across today is we need

2780
01:44:20,150 --> 01:44:21,810
to do that when we're in our homes

2781
01:44:21,810 --> 01:44:22,310
also.

2782
01:44:22,870 --> 01:44:24,890
As you know, I'm a lifelong San Antonioan,

2783
01:44:24,950 --> 01:44:27,130
grew up there, worked there for many years,

2784
01:44:27,130 --> 01:44:29,810
and I know how many multi-generational families

2785
01:44:29,810 --> 01:44:30,550
that we have.

2786
01:44:30,930 --> 01:44:32,650
And while we believe the community is doing

2787
01:44:32,650 --> 01:44:35,470
a great job of following the rules when

2788
01:44:35,470 --> 01:44:37,590
they're outside of the home, we really need

2789
01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:39,010
to be thinking about doing the same thing

2790
01:44:39,010 --> 01:44:40,570
when we're inside the home.

2791
01:44:40,970 --> 01:44:44,130
And all of us are capable of catching

2792
01:44:44,130 --> 01:44:44,870
this disease.

2793
01:44:45,010 --> 01:44:46,290
None of us are immune from this.

2794
01:44:46,650 --> 01:44:47,770
And the fact that we need to get

2795
01:44:47,770 --> 01:44:49,710
across this in order to protect ourselves, we

2796
01:44:49,710 --> 01:44:51,430
need to protect our families and our loved

2797
01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:51,750
ones.

2798
01:44:52,090 --> 01:44:53,670
We really need to be thinking about the

2799
01:44:53,670 --> 01:44:55,870
care that we're providing inside the home right

2800
01:44:55,870 --> 01:44:57,810
now to make sure that we're not spreading

2801
01:44:57,810 --> 01:45:00,050
this disease inside the home and then making

2802
01:45:00,050 --> 01:45:01,170
it come outside the house.

2803
01:45:01,270 --> 01:45:02,110
So let me get this straight.

2804
01:45:02,210 --> 01:45:04,070
What you're effectively saying is that people should

2805
01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:06,150
be wearing masks inside their own homes now?

2806
01:45:06,610 --> 01:45:08,790
Ryan, I'm saying if you can't socially distance

2807
01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:10,910
and can't socially isolate, or if you've been

2808
01:45:10,910 --> 01:45:13,690
out in public and exposing yourself and you

2809
01:45:13,690 --> 01:45:16,510
haven't decontaminated yourself good enough when you get

2810
01:45:16,510 --> 01:45:19,350
home, if you have someone that has underlying

2811
01:45:19,350 --> 01:45:21,470
medical conditions at home, we really need to

2812
01:45:21,470 --> 01:45:22,410
be thinking about that.

2813
01:45:22,730 --> 01:45:24,110
Now, if you're the same two or three

2814
01:45:24,110 --> 01:45:25,850
people that are living in the same house

2815
01:45:25,850 --> 01:45:27,330
and you're really taking care of yourself and

2816
01:45:27,330 --> 01:45:29,450
you're following all the rules, then you probably

2817
01:45:29,450 --> 01:45:30,770
don't need to wear a mask in your

2818
01:45:30,770 --> 01:45:31,010
home.

2819
01:45:31,390 --> 01:45:34,350
But if you've gone out for Memorial Day

2820
01:45:34,350 --> 01:45:36,490
or 4th of July, or you've gone out

2821
01:45:36,490 --> 01:45:39,070
to parties, or you've gone out to graduation

2822
01:45:39,070 --> 01:45:40,970
parties, when you've gone out and you've come

2823
01:45:40,970 --> 01:45:43,310
back in, you can be bringing that back

2824
01:45:43,310 --> 01:45:43,750
inside.

2825
01:45:43,890 --> 01:45:45,710
And I think it's no secret we all

2826
01:45:45,710 --> 01:45:47,250
like to relax when we're at home.

2827
01:45:47,650 --> 01:45:49,670
But if we're not paying attention to how

2828
01:45:49,670 --> 01:45:53,230
the virus spreads outside or inside the home,

2829
01:45:53,310 --> 01:45:54,810
we're going to keep spreading this virus.

2830
01:45:54,810 --> 01:45:58,630
Customers and employees boycotting side-by-side outside

2831
01:45:58,630 --> 01:46:00,170
of the Whole Foods in Cambridge.

2832
01:46:00,870 --> 01:46:04,250
We've been told to take our masks off

2833
01:46:04,250 --> 01:46:06,170
or leave without pay.

2834
01:46:06,470 --> 01:46:08,070
It's going on day 18.

2835
01:46:08,410 --> 01:46:10,970
Some employees walking off the job daily after

2836
01:46:10,970 --> 01:46:13,890
being reprimanded by management for wearing Black Lives

2837
01:46:13,890 --> 01:46:15,630
Matter face masks at work.

2838
01:46:15,790 --> 01:46:18,950
I think they should let us support any

2839
01:46:18,950 --> 01:46:22,510
kind of movement that is human rights and

2840
01:46:22,510 --> 01:46:23,710
that's equal rights.

2841
01:46:24,370 --> 01:46:25,970
Until their bottom line is hurt and they

2842
01:46:25,970 --> 01:46:28,730
see that people care, I don't think they're

2843
01:46:28,730 --> 01:46:29,470
going to change.

2844
01:46:30,050 --> 01:46:32,450
Even the most loyal of shoppers are changing

2845
01:46:32,450 --> 01:46:35,210
their minds about the company, standing in solidarity

2846
01:46:35,210 --> 01:46:36,310
with employees.

2847
01:46:36,830 --> 01:46:39,950
I feel completely uncomfortable giving them any of

2848
01:46:39,950 --> 01:46:40,450
my dollars.

2849
01:46:41,190 --> 01:46:42,790
So we've stopped shopping here.

2850
01:46:43,250 --> 01:46:46,090
A Whole Foods spokesperson told CBS News their

2851
01:46:46,090 --> 01:46:50,150
dress code policy prohibits visible slogans, messages or

2852
01:46:50,150 --> 01:46:52,230
logos unrelated to the company.

2853
01:46:52,490 --> 01:46:54,050
But their employees disagree.

2854
01:46:54,810 --> 01:46:56,130
We're gay pride pins.

2855
01:46:56,370 --> 01:46:59,990
We wear Red Sox masks.

2856
01:47:00,250 --> 01:47:01,870
We wear Bruins masks.

2857
01:47:02,050 --> 01:47:02,930
We're encouraged to.

2858
01:47:03,130 --> 01:47:06,190
And I can't understand why they're not changing

2859
01:47:06,190 --> 01:47:08,050
this policy because it's so small.

2860
01:47:10,010 --> 01:47:12,010
Even though some of these employees are on

2861
01:47:12,010 --> 01:47:14,070
the verge of losing their jobs, they vow

2862
01:47:14,070 --> 01:47:16,210
to continue to walk out and to speak

2863
01:47:16,210 --> 01:47:17,910
out until changes are made.

2864
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:20,610
The Florida Department of Health releasing its daily

2865
01:47:20,610 --> 01:47:24,730
coronavirus testing report, showing a statewide positivity rate

2866
01:47:24,730 --> 01:47:25,950
of 11 percent.

2867
01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:30,130
But Fox 35 quickly noticing some shocking positivity

2868
01:47:30,130 --> 01:47:30,630
rates.

2869
01:47:31,110 --> 01:47:34,290
Countless labs reporting 100 percent positivity.

2870
01:47:34,850 --> 01:47:38,070
That means every single person tested was positive.

2871
01:47:38,650 --> 01:47:40,990
We sifted through the reports to find local

2872
01:47:40,990 --> 01:47:42,790
testing sites with high numbers.

2873
01:47:43,270 --> 01:47:47,730
Like this CentraCare, 83 people tested and all

2874
01:47:47,730 --> 01:47:48,390
positive.

2875
01:47:48,790 --> 01:47:51,590
Check out the Orlando VA, a positivity rate

2876
01:47:51,590 --> 01:47:53,190
of 76 percent.

2877
01:47:53,830 --> 01:47:57,450
NCF Diagnostics has a location in Alachua, 88

2878
01:47:57,450 --> 01:48:01,150
percent of tests coming back positive and 98

2879
01:48:01,150 --> 01:48:03,070
percent for Orlando Health.

2880
01:48:03,630 --> 01:48:04,790
How could that be?

2881
01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:09,010
We investigated these astronomical numbers contacting every location

2882
01:48:09,010 --> 01:48:09,590
mentioned.

2883
01:48:09,590 --> 01:48:14,070
Orlando Health, the only to respond, confirming errors

2884
01:48:14,070 --> 01:48:15,010
in the report.

2885
01:48:15,470 --> 01:48:18,230
Its positivity rate is in fact only 9

2886
01:48:18,230 --> 01:48:19,370
.4 percent.

2887
01:48:20,110 --> 01:48:22,290
Now we just heard back from the Orlando

2888
01:48:22,290 --> 01:48:22,650
VA.

2889
01:48:22,850 --> 01:48:24,610
They are looking into the numbers.

2890
01:48:25,070 --> 01:48:26,470
We haven't heard back from the other two

2891
01:48:26,470 --> 01:48:30,050
labs or the Florida Health Department of Health.

2892
01:48:30,090 --> 01:48:32,170
Of course, it makes you wonder if these

2893
01:48:32,170 --> 01:48:33,050
numbers are wrong.

2894
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:36,090
Are other numbers on the report also wrong?

2895
01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:37,550
We'll stay on top of this story.

2896
01:48:37,550 --> 01:48:39,130
I have four children.

2897
01:48:39,630 --> 01:48:41,110
The youngest one is 10 months old.

2898
01:48:41,670 --> 01:48:43,610
You know, the biggest concern is playing with

2899
01:48:43,610 --> 01:48:44,010
kids.

2900
01:48:44,330 --> 01:48:45,330
I don't want them to get sick.

2901
01:48:45,550 --> 01:48:47,610
And with like a 10-month-old, she's

2902
01:48:47,610 --> 01:48:49,130
going to want to crawl, right?

2903
01:48:49,210 --> 01:48:50,590
And she's at that age where she'll put

2904
01:48:50,590 --> 01:48:52,150
everything in her mouth, right?

2905
01:48:52,150 --> 01:48:53,230
And she's always touching things.

2906
01:48:53,370 --> 01:48:54,650
And then the other concern is, you know,

2907
01:48:54,710 --> 01:48:56,790
right now it's hard to trust other people,

2908
01:48:56,910 --> 01:48:57,190
I think.

2909
01:48:57,470 --> 01:48:59,510
You have the crowds at the airports, going

2910
01:48:59,510 --> 01:49:00,350
through security.

2911
01:49:00,970 --> 01:49:03,170
So you're just exposing yourself.

2912
01:49:03,170 --> 01:49:06,090
More than that, you have people with this

2913
01:49:06,090 --> 01:49:09,670
virus that may not show symptoms until, you

2914
01:49:09,670 --> 01:49:11,230
know, you're on the plane and then it's

2915
01:49:11,230 --> 01:49:11,750
too late.

2916
01:49:11,910 --> 01:49:14,690
If you're, especially if you're going overseas, you

2917
01:49:14,690 --> 01:49:15,490
can't go anywhere.

2918
01:49:15,590 --> 01:49:16,270
You're stuck.

2919
01:49:17,550 --> 01:49:18,330
I'll wait.

2920
01:49:18,570 --> 01:49:20,150
I'll wait as long as I have to.

2921
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:23,110
Even when a vaccine comes available, I'm not

2922
01:49:23,110 --> 01:49:24,150
going to be the first one to run

2923
01:49:24,150 --> 01:49:25,570
out and get it.

2924
01:49:25,770 --> 01:49:27,470
I'd like to make sure that it's going

2925
01:49:27,470 --> 01:49:29,390
to be effective and it works.

2926
01:49:29,390 --> 01:49:31,490
I mean, if it lasts a year, maybe

2927
01:49:31,490 --> 01:49:33,050
two years, that's just what we have to

2928
01:49:33,050 --> 01:49:33,250
do.

2929
01:49:33,670 --> 01:49:35,930
I mean, you know, I obviously want the

2930
01:49:35,930 --> 01:49:36,510
kids to get out.

2931
01:49:36,570 --> 01:49:37,670
I want my wife to go do the

2932
01:49:37,670 --> 01:49:38,390
things that they want to do.

2933
01:49:38,450 --> 01:49:39,810
I want to go do things that I

2934
01:49:39,810 --> 01:49:40,230
want to do.

2935
01:49:40,710 --> 01:49:42,530
But at this time, it's just what it

2936
01:49:42,530 --> 01:49:42,810
is.

2937
01:49:43,010 --> 01:49:44,270
I mean, so we just kind of have

2938
01:49:44,270 --> 01:49:45,510
to put up with it and make the

2939
01:49:45,510 --> 01:49:46,310
best out of our time.

2940
01:49:46,730 --> 01:49:49,550
Just over 100 days until Election Day.

2941
01:49:49,690 --> 01:49:51,830
And this morning, we have a new CBS

2942
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:54,310
News Battleground tracker out that looks at the

2943
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:58,450
presidential race in three states heavily impacted by

2944
01:49:58,450 --> 01:49:59,290
the coronavirus.

2945
01:49:59,310 --> 01:50:01,470
That's Arizona, Texas and Florida.

2946
01:50:01,990 --> 01:50:04,630
Results show former Vice President Joe Biden will

2947
01:50:04,630 --> 01:50:07,990
be competitive or better in all three states.

2948
01:50:08,590 --> 01:50:11,430
Mr. Biden and President Trump are tied 46

2949
01:50:11,430 --> 01:50:12,770
to 46 in Arizona.

2950
01:50:13,590 --> 01:50:17,010
President Trump is up 46 to 45 in

2951
01:50:17,010 --> 01:50:17,350
Texas.

2952
01:50:17,350 --> 01:50:20,130
And the former vice president is up by

2953
01:50:20,130 --> 01:50:23,830
six points, 48 to 42 in Florida.

2954
01:50:24,070 --> 01:50:26,490
New York's Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo seems to

2955
01:50:26,490 --> 01:50:28,570
be on something of a victory tour, congratulating

2956
01:50:28,570 --> 01:50:31,670
the state and himself for defeating the virus.

2957
01:50:31,730 --> 01:50:34,550
Even selling this poster, which shows his state

2958
01:50:34,550 --> 01:50:36,870
getting over the mountain by bringing down the

2959
01:50:36,870 --> 01:50:39,570
curve during the 111 days of hell, as

2960
01:50:39,570 --> 01:50:40,270
the governor put it.

2961
01:50:40,310 --> 01:50:42,690
The poster includes references to his daughters and

2962
01:50:42,690 --> 01:50:45,050
a boyfriend, little inside jokes.

2963
01:50:45,050 --> 01:50:47,190
There are no illustrations, however, of the more

2964
01:50:47,190 --> 01:50:51,010
than 32,000 dead New Yorkers, the highest

2965
01:50:51,010 --> 01:50:53,230
death toll by far of any state.

2966
01:50:53,750 --> 01:50:55,710
No rendering on that poster of criticism that

2967
01:50:55,710 --> 01:50:56,650
Governor Cuomo ignored.

2968
01:50:56,810 --> 01:50:59,110
Warnings, no depiction of the study that he

2969
01:50:59,110 --> 01:51:01,370
could have saved thousands of lives had he

2970
01:51:01,370 --> 01:51:03,150
and Mayor de Blasio acted sooner.

2971
01:51:03,650 --> 01:51:05,450
No painting there on the poster of his

2972
01:51:05,450 --> 01:51:09,230
since rescinded order that nursing homes take all

2973
01:51:09,230 --> 01:51:10,850
infected patients in.

2974
01:51:11,230 --> 01:51:13,210
Here's what Governor Cuomo had to say yesterday.

2975
01:51:13,210 --> 01:51:15,570
What we went through and what we did

2976
01:51:15,570 --> 01:51:16,830
was historic.

2977
01:51:17,910 --> 01:51:20,470
Because we did tame the beast.

2978
01:51:20,670 --> 01:51:21,930
We did turn the corner.

2979
01:51:22,170 --> 01:51:24,990
We did plateau that mountain.

2980
01:51:25,930 --> 01:51:27,710
And then we came down the other side.

2981
01:51:28,790 --> 01:51:30,790
And they will be talking about what we

2982
01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:33,770
did for decades to come.

2983
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:35,810
And I'll just end with a little global

2984
01:51:35,810 --> 01:51:38,470
aside, which is the research that's being done

2985
01:51:39,190 --> 01:51:42,070
about how much better countries run by women

2986
01:51:42,070 --> 01:51:44,390
have done during the COVID pandemic.

2987
01:51:45,590 --> 01:51:49,990
From New Zealand to Taiwan to Germany to

2988
01:51:49,990 --> 01:51:50,910
Finland, etc.

2989
01:51:51,470 --> 01:51:53,270
And, you know, maybe it's not a very

2990
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:56,530
big sample, but the kind of inclusive leadership

2991
01:51:56,530 --> 01:52:00,150
that actually followed the evidence and listened to

2992
01:52:00,150 --> 01:52:03,370
science has proven to be quite effective.

2993
01:52:03,770 --> 01:52:05,370
You take a picture of me.

2994
01:52:05,430 --> 01:52:06,510
Does that make you feel better?

2995
01:52:06,650 --> 01:52:08,150
Why don't you get a life, lady?

2996
01:52:08,150 --> 01:52:09,290
I have a life.

2997
01:52:09,590 --> 01:52:11,970
And it's going around taking pictures of people.

2998
01:52:11,970 --> 01:52:13,930
Yes, because what you're doing, can you not

2999
01:52:13,930 --> 01:52:15,710
follow the lines on the floor?

3000
01:52:15,730 --> 01:52:16,790
Keep your mouth running.

3001
01:52:16,830 --> 01:52:19,850
The governor, the mayor has asked us all

3002
01:52:19,850 --> 01:52:20,510
to wear masks.

3003
01:52:20,610 --> 01:52:22,230
And look at you, not wearing a mask.

3004
01:52:22,470 --> 01:52:22,850
Oh, dear.

3005
01:52:22,850 --> 01:52:24,590
I wear a mask to protect myself.

3006
01:52:24,750 --> 01:52:26,050
People have made this sex a fucking political.

3007
01:52:26,230 --> 01:52:27,070
It's unbelievable.

3008
01:52:27,670 --> 01:52:29,830
Now, you have accosted me in this store.

3009
01:52:29,990 --> 01:52:31,850
You've accosted me, but you can't even find

3010
01:52:31,850 --> 01:52:33,430
me with a six-week not wearing a

3011
01:52:33,430 --> 01:52:33,570
mask.

3012
01:52:33,730 --> 01:52:35,170
And if you're going to keep this up,

3013
01:52:35,230 --> 01:52:37,330
maybe we'll get the police department in here.

3014
01:52:37,330 --> 01:52:38,690
What'd you call 911 then?

3015
01:52:38,850 --> 01:52:39,850
Yeah, yeah.

3016
01:52:40,650 --> 01:52:41,930
Oh, God, another one.

3017
01:52:42,170 --> 01:52:43,590
You people are like monkeys.

3018
01:52:43,750 --> 01:52:44,930
Well, I'm out of a tree.

3019
01:52:45,190 --> 01:52:46,750
No, you're the monkey that hasn't.

3020
01:52:47,610 --> 01:52:49,590
Hey, I'm dragging those knuckles that you've not

3021
01:52:49,590 --> 01:52:50,050
evolved.

3022
01:52:50,690 --> 01:52:52,330
Okay, how's that grab you?

3023
01:52:52,450 --> 01:52:55,750
Ever heard of Darwinism, evolution, evolve, mister?

3024
01:52:56,470 --> 01:52:58,670
Why don't you burn something down?

3025
01:52:59,030 --> 01:53:00,510
Why don't you go back to where you

3026
01:53:00,510 --> 01:53:00,830
were?

3027
01:53:04,010 --> 01:53:06,770
Are you burning crosses?

3028
01:53:07,330 --> 01:53:09,930
You people are fucking idiots, man.

3029
01:53:10,250 --> 01:53:11,050
No, you're the idiot.

3030
01:53:11,370 --> 01:53:12,050
Yeah, yeah.

3031
01:53:12,130 --> 01:53:14,610
But you're the ones playing your life on

3032
01:53:14,610 --> 01:53:15,770
the freaking computer.

3033
01:53:16,290 --> 01:53:17,290
You have no life.

3034
01:53:17,810 --> 01:53:19,470
So this is what your life is?

3035
01:53:19,650 --> 01:53:22,270
Dude, I'm out doing my shopping.

3036
01:53:23,950 --> 01:53:25,070
You're unbelievable.

3037
01:53:26,350 --> 01:53:27,790
Good luck with the virus.

3038
01:53:28,290 --> 01:53:29,270
Good luck with the virus.

3039
01:53:29,550 --> 01:53:31,790
Your whole family tree is getting cut off

3040
01:53:31,790 --> 01:53:32,690
at its roots.

3041
01:53:33,190 --> 01:53:36,010
85 infants have tested positive for coronavirus in

3042
01:53:36,010 --> 01:53:38,250
Nueces County, which includes Corpus Christi.

3043
01:53:38,550 --> 01:53:40,770
The public health director made that announcement this

3044
01:53:40,770 --> 01:53:43,590
week and urged residents to wear masks and

3045
01:53:43,590 --> 01:53:44,970
practice social distancing.

3046
01:53:45,550 --> 01:53:47,330
These babies have not even had their first

3047
01:53:47,330 --> 01:53:48,050
birthday yet.

3048
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:50,550
Please help us to stop the spread of

3049
01:53:50,550 --> 01:53:51,170
this disease.

3050
01:53:51,590 --> 01:53:54,030
No other details were provided on the condition

3051
01:53:54,030 --> 01:53:56,670
of those infants, but Corpus Christi currently has

3052
01:53:56,670 --> 01:53:59,070
82 deaths linked to the virus.

3053
01:53:59,390 --> 01:54:00,610
Chief, so tell us, what more do we

3054
01:54:00,610 --> 01:54:02,430
know about it came to be and also

3055
01:54:02,430 --> 01:54:04,950
about that White House relationship with Dr. Fauci?

3056
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:07,570
Well, what we've seen is an escalating war

3057
01:54:07,570 --> 01:54:09,730
between the White House and Dr. Fauci.

3058
01:54:09,850 --> 01:54:12,510
Dr. Fauci has served some five presidents before

3059
01:54:12,510 --> 01:54:14,710
President Trump, and he's someone who's very restricted,

3060
01:54:15,090 --> 01:54:16,290
someone who's very restricted.

3061
01:54:16,730 --> 01:54:19,010
He was someone who also said before this

3062
01:54:19,010 --> 01:54:20,870
op-ed was written by Peter Navarro that

3063
01:54:20,870 --> 01:54:23,850
the American public should really trust scientists, including

3064
01:54:23,850 --> 01:54:24,290
himself.

3065
01:54:24,450 --> 01:54:27,350
The White House, you had your first conversation

3066
01:54:27,350 --> 01:54:29,930
with President Trump, we are told, this week

3067
01:54:29,930 --> 01:54:33,130
in perhaps a month or longer.

3068
01:54:33,650 --> 01:54:35,110
You had a meeting with the White House

3069
01:54:35,110 --> 01:54:36,810
chief of staff, Mark Meadows.

3070
01:54:37,170 --> 01:54:41,270
But just yesterday, he called you irresponsible for

3071
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:44,750
a statement you made comparing, saying that this

3072
01:54:44,750 --> 01:54:50,550
pandemic could be worse than the 1918 pandemic.

3073
01:54:50,830 --> 01:54:52,510
You also have been attacked, as you know,

3074
01:54:52,590 --> 01:54:55,410
by Peter Navarro, the White House advisor.

3075
01:54:56,050 --> 01:54:59,030
Are you convinced that the White House is

3076
01:54:59,030 --> 01:55:01,330
not trying to discredit you, Dr. Fauci?

3077
01:55:01,330 --> 01:55:03,690
You know, I think you've got to be

3078
01:55:03,690 --> 01:55:05,190
careful when you say the White House.

3079
01:55:05,530 --> 01:55:08,730
The White House in general is not trying

3080
01:55:08,730 --> 01:55:09,010
to.

3081
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:11,010
Certainly, the president is not.

3082
01:55:11,470 --> 01:55:13,710
I certainly believe that Mark Meadows is not.

3083
01:55:14,110 --> 01:55:16,410
What happened with Peter Navarro in that editorial,

3084
01:55:16,610 --> 01:55:17,990
I can't even comment on that.

3085
01:55:18,370 --> 01:55:21,270
That just is beyond my comprehension, why he

3086
01:55:21,270 --> 01:55:21,730
did that.

3087
01:55:21,790 --> 01:55:23,690
But I do not believe that the White

3088
01:55:23,690 --> 01:55:25,010
House is trying to discredit me.

3089
01:55:25,090 --> 01:55:25,590
No, I don't.

3090
01:55:26,130 --> 01:55:27,730
Do you think there are individuals in the

3091
01:55:27,730 --> 01:55:28,590
White House who are?

3092
01:55:29,230 --> 01:55:30,450
Well, I already mentioned one.

3093
01:55:30,450 --> 01:55:33,470
And Mark Meadows saying you're irresponsible for that

3094
01:55:33,470 --> 01:55:33,750
comment?

3095
01:55:34,310 --> 01:55:36,730
Well, what happened there is that that was

3096
01:55:36,730 --> 01:55:40,510
something that was said in another interview where

3097
01:55:40,510 --> 01:55:42,010
I went where there could have been a

3098
01:55:42,010 --> 01:55:44,770
misunderstanding that I was equating them.

3099
01:55:45,410 --> 01:55:46,770
So when the thing we wanted to do

3100
01:55:46,770 --> 01:55:49,410
was to correct that, which I did in

3101
01:55:49,410 --> 01:55:51,990
an interview that I had just like yesterday,

3102
01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:52,610
I believe.

3103
01:55:52,870 --> 01:55:55,430
I don't think he was calling me irresponsible

3104
01:55:55,430 --> 01:55:56,270
as a person.

3105
01:55:56,270 --> 01:55:58,630
I think he was referring to his concern

3106
01:55:58,630 --> 01:56:01,090
that there was going to be some misunderstanding.

3107
01:56:01,690 --> 01:56:03,190
I don't have a problem with that.

3108
01:56:03,470 --> 01:56:05,150
Mark and I are on very good terms.

3109
01:56:05,930 --> 01:56:07,370
Let me ask it this way, Dr. Fauci.

3110
01:56:07,450 --> 01:56:08,950
Do you think you have the full backing

3111
01:56:08,950 --> 01:56:12,150
and support of the White House from the

3112
01:56:12,150 --> 01:56:12,970
president on down?

3113
01:56:13,650 --> 01:56:13,970
I do.

3114
01:56:14,350 --> 01:56:14,710
I do.

3115
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:16,030
I believe I do.

3116
01:56:16,290 --> 01:56:17,990
I spoke to the president about that.

3117
01:56:18,110 --> 01:56:19,090
I believe I do.

3118
01:56:19,410 --> 01:56:21,250
And why do you think they've been trying

3119
01:56:21,250 --> 01:56:22,870
to limit your public appearances?

3120
01:56:22,870 --> 01:56:25,010
Well, I think it's a question of different

3121
01:56:25,010 --> 01:56:26,370
messages getting out.

3122
01:56:26,510 --> 01:56:29,290
You know, the real emphasis right now, you

3123
01:56:29,290 --> 01:56:32,190
know, is on more of trying to get

3124
01:56:32,190 --> 01:56:35,810
the country opened again and economic messages.

3125
01:56:36,510 --> 01:56:38,030
I don't think there's going to be that.

3126
01:56:38,170 --> 01:56:39,010
Yes, it varies.

3127
01:56:39,130 --> 01:56:40,750
There are some times when I'm on a

3128
01:56:40,750 --> 01:56:42,670
lot and there's sometimes when I'm not.

3129
01:56:43,170 --> 01:56:44,070
Here I am with you.

3130
01:56:44,270 --> 01:56:45,690
You know, I always like to be with

3131
01:56:45,690 --> 01:56:45,970
you.

3132
01:56:46,250 --> 01:56:47,710
I'm glad they said yes to that.

3133
01:56:47,770 --> 01:56:48,930
And we appreciate it.

3134
01:56:49,150 --> 01:56:50,290
And we appreciate it.

3135
01:56:50,290 --> 01:56:52,670
Do you have a worry, though, Dr. Fauci,

3136
01:56:52,850 --> 01:56:56,430
that the anti-vaccine movement could interfere with

3137
01:56:56,430 --> 01:56:57,210
this timetable?

3138
01:56:58,150 --> 01:57:00,530
Yes, I do, because, I mean, we have

3139
01:57:00,530 --> 01:57:03,710
to admit and realize that there is an

3140
01:57:03,710 --> 01:57:07,190
anti-vax movement that we've had to struggle

3141
01:57:07,190 --> 01:57:08,610
with in this country.

3142
01:57:09,070 --> 01:57:11,790
And I believe the solution to that would

3143
01:57:11,790 --> 01:57:16,070
be community engagement and community outreach to get

3144
01:57:16,070 --> 01:57:19,110
people that are trusted by the community to

3145
01:57:19,110 --> 01:57:21,530
go out there and explain to them the

3146
01:57:21,530 --> 01:57:24,570
importance of not only getting engaged in the

3147
01:57:24,570 --> 01:57:27,990
vaccine trial, but the importance of when the

3148
01:57:27,990 --> 01:57:30,070
vaccine is shown to be safe and effective

3149
01:57:30,070 --> 01:57:33,890
to actually take the vaccine, because it could

3150
01:57:33,890 --> 01:57:36,390
be lifesaving and it certainly would be the

3151
01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:38,610
solution to this terrible pandemic.

3152
01:57:38,910 --> 01:57:40,250
We're not just fighting an epidemic.

3153
01:57:40,410 --> 01:57:42,030
We're fighting an infodemic.

3154
01:57:42,030 --> 01:57:45,090
This famous quote from WHO Director General has

3155
01:57:45,090 --> 01:57:45,990
been widely shared.

3156
01:57:46,650 --> 01:57:47,970
So what is an infodemic?

3157
01:57:48,630 --> 01:57:50,850
An infodemic is an excessive amount of information

3158
01:57:50,850 --> 01:57:53,250
about a problem, making it difficult to identify

3159
01:57:53,250 --> 01:57:53,870
a solution.

3160
01:57:54,710 --> 01:57:57,610
During a health emergency, an infodemic can drown

3161
01:57:57,610 --> 01:58:00,570
out reliable information and allow rumors to spread

3162
01:58:00,570 --> 01:58:03,910
more easily, impeding an effective public health response.

3163
01:58:04,390 --> 01:58:05,530
Why is it happening now?

3164
01:58:06,010 --> 01:58:08,170
Information can spread faster than a virus.

3165
01:58:08,890 --> 01:58:11,550
With rapid growth of digital communications and social

3166
01:58:11,550 --> 01:58:14,930
media platforms, information spreads fast from online to

3167
01:58:14,930 --> 01:58:15,790
our physical lives.

3168
01:58:16,390 --> 01:58:17,570
And how does it affect us?

3169
01:58:18,030 --> 01:58:21,070
Online information can negatively affect our psychology, daily

3170
01:58:21,070 --> 01:58:24,170
lives, and behaviors, worsening the ongoing crisis at

3171
01:58:24,170 --> 01:58:24,530
hand.

3172
01:58:24,970 --> 01:58:27,410
Infodemics make it difficult to recognize accurate and

3173
01:58:27,410 --> 01:58:30,310
reliable information that tells people what preventative actions

3174
01:58:30,310 --> 01:58:30,990
they should take.

3175
01:58:31,550 --> 01:58:34,750
Some even promote stigma, discrimination, or violence.

3176
01:58:34,750 --> 01:58:37,370
Therefore, we all play an important role to

3177
01:58:37,370 --> 01:58:40,110
share trustworthy information and reduce disinformation.

3178
01:58:41,070 --> 01:58:42,610
Here are simple actions we can do to

3179
01:58:42,610 --> 01:58:43,670
mitigate the infodemic.

3180
01:58:44,350 --> 01:58:44,690
1.

3181
01:58:44,830 --> 01:58:46,290
Look for facts and evidence.

3182
01:58:46,630 --> 01:58:48,250
Be critical when receiving information.

3183
01:58:48,790 --> 01:58:51,010
Question the source for accuracy and evidence.

3184
01:58:51,410 --> 01:58:52,510
Compare with other sources.

3185
01:58:53,390 --> 01:58:53,710
2.

3186
01:58:54,070 --> 01:58:54,850
Choose carefully.

3187
01:58:55,470 --> 01:58:58,010
Share, like, or forward only content from trusted

3188
01:58:58,010 --> 01:58:58,410
sources.

3189
01:58:59,050 --> 01:58:59,370
3.

3190
01:58:59,710 --> 01:59:00,390
Be cautious.

3191
01:59:00,890 --> 01:59:03,350
Do not reshare, forward, or like false information

3192
01:59:03,350 --> 01:59:04,470
you know is not true.

3193
01:59:04,750 --> 01:59:05,450
4.

3194
01:59:05,870 --> 01:59:06,890
Be a good example.

3195
01:59:07,550 --> 01:59:09,270
Correct or call out people in your social

3196
01:59:09,270 --> 01:59:10,830
networks when they post something untrue.

3197
01:59:11,370 --> 01:59:13,970
Refer them to verified content and expert organizations

3198
01:59:13,970 --> 01:59:15,130
for further information.

3199
01:59:15,890 --> 01:59:16,250
5.

3200
01:59:16,630 --> 01:59:17,970
Spend less time online.

3201
01:59:18,490 --> 01:59:20,990
Only seek the latest information at specific times

3202
01:59:20,990 --> 01:59:23,050
of the day, once or twice a day

3203
01:59:23,050 --> 01:59:23,650
if needed.

3204
01:59:24,050 --> 01:59:26,430
Exercise, listen to music, or read a book.

3205
01:59:26,710 --> 01:59:28,850
This helps to maintain good physical and mental

3206
01:59:28,850 --> 01:59:29,250
health.

3207
01:59:29,970 --> 01:59:32,530
Together, let's combat disinformation and misinformation.

3208
01:59:32,530 --> 01:59:36,370
Turn the infodemic into a positive information experience,

3209
01:59:36,830 --> 01:59:38,750
one that promotes facts and science.

3210
02:00:39,170 --> 02:00:42,390
and the government agreed to offer solidarity and

3211
02:00:42,390 --> 02:00:44,990
participate in the trial, which is being led

3212
02:00:44,990 --> 02:00:48,390
by Oxford University through South Africa's Birch University.

3213
02:00:48,750 --> 02:00:52,470
The difficulty, of course, is one trying to

3214
02:00:52,470 --> 02:00:54,970
secure a sufficient number of volunteers for the

3215
02:00:54,970 --> 02:00:58,610
trial, with, as you correctly point out, within

3216
02:00:58,610 --> 02:01:01,430
a climate where the numbers of people living

3217
02:01:01,430 --> 02:01:05,030
with COVID are increasing, and we also estimate

3218
02:01:05,030 --> 02:01:09,070
that that is a significant undercount because our

3219
02:01:09,070 --> 02:01:11,890
testing strategy has been hampered by the lack

3220
02:01:11,890 --> 02:01:15,050
of available testing kits, so the criteria for

3221
02:01:15,050 --> 02:01:17,710
testing has changed, and in effect it amounts

3222
02:01:17,710 --> 02:01:19,130
to rationing at the moment.

3223
02:01:19,930 --> 02:01:22,890
The second issue with the trial, which actually

3224
02:01:22,890 --> 02:01:27,350
is, you know, involves quite significantly a pharmaceutical

3225
02:01:27,350 --> 02:01:32,870
company called AstraZeneca, and the issue around AstraZeneca's

3226
02:01:32,870 --> 02:01:36,070
relationship with Oxford, the relationship with the South

3227
02:01:36,070 --> 02:01:39,970
African government, as in the contractual relationship, including

3228
02:01:39,970 --> 02:01:43,130
Birch University and clinical participants in other parts

3229
02:01:43,130 --> 02:01:46,230
of the world, in Brazil as well, is

3230
02:01:46,230 --> 02:01:46,810
unclear.

3231
02:01:47,050 --> 02:01:50,710
We're calling for transparency in those agreements, because

3232
02:01:50,710 --> 02:01:52,590
on the one hand, if we are going

3233
02:01:52,590 --> 02:01:54,810
to participate in a trial that is trying

3234
02:01:54,810 --> 02:01:58,850
to ensure equitable access to a vaccine, if

3235
02:01:58,850 --> 02:01:59,810
it is successful.

3236
02:01:59,810 --> 02:02:03,770
And I had a nurse at, nurses at

3237
02:02:03,770 --> 02:02:07,230
Walter Reed Hospital who would bend down and

3238
02:02:07,230 --> 02:02:09,890
whisper in my ear and go home and

3239
02:02:09,890 --> 02:02:10,610
get me pillows.

3240
02:02:10,830 --> 02:02:13,570
They would make sure they'd actually, probably nothing

3241
02:02:13,570 --> 02:02:15,610
ever taught in, you can't do it in

3242
02:02:15,610 --> 02:02:17,950
the COVID time, but they'd actually breathe in

3243
02:02:17,950 --> 02:02:20,790
my nostrils to make me move, to get

3244
02:02:20,790 --> 02:02:21,470
me moving.

3245
02:02:21,830 --> 02:02:24,750
I understand hospitals are so overwhelmed in one

3246
02:02:24,750 --> 02:02:27,690
county in southern Texas so that doctors have

3247
02:02:27,690 --> 02:02:30,310
to choose who to send home to die.

3248
02:02:30,750 --> 02:02:31,490
What are you learning?

3249
02:02:32,170 --> 02:02:32,610
Hey, Wolf.

3250
02:02:32,630 --> 02:02:34,670
Well, this is happening in Starr County down

3251
02:02:34,670 --> 02:02:36,350
there in south Texas, an area that has

3252
02:02:36,350 --> 02:02:39,210
been the hotspot within this Texas hotspot.

3253
02:02:39,730 --> 02:02:41,730
County officials, they're saying at the county hospital

3254
02:02:41,730 --> 02:02:44,190
in Starr County, that they're going to create

3255
02:02:44,190 --> 02:02:48,850
essentially ethics and triage teams to go through

3256
02:02:48,850 --> 02:02:51,410
the patients and determine which patients can be

3257
02:02:51,410 --> 02:02:53,530
treated there at the hospital and which patients

3258
02:02:53,530 --> 02:02:55,450
might be too sick to be treated and

3259
02:02:55,450 --> 02:02:57,830
have to go home and, and, and wait

3260
02:02:57,830 --> 02:02:58,770
to die essentially.

3261
02:02:59,370 --> 02:03:02,190
This because the number of COVID patients has

3262
02:03:02,190 --> 02:03:04,530
exploded there over the course of just the

3263
02:03:04,530 --> 02:03:05,050
last month.

3264
02:03:05,370 --> 02:03:07,350
County officials say they didn't have any COVID

3265
02:03:07,350 --> 02:03:08,490
patients about a month ago.

3266
02:03:08,850 --> 02:03:11,510
Now they have more than 1,400, more

3267
02:03:11,510 --> 02:03:13,930
than 40 added to the rolls there yesterday.

3268
02:03:14,130 --> 02:03:15,930
So a great deal of concern there.

3269
02:03:16,290 --> 02:03:17,630
Hospitalizations and deaths up.

3270
02:03:18,050 --> 02:03:19,950
The number of overall new cases is beginning

3271
02:03:19,950 --> 02:03:22,390
to show signs of plateauing, but there's still

3272
02:03:22,390 --> 02:03:24,650
disturbing details in this medical data here in

3273
02:03:24,650 --> 02:03:25,270
Dallas County.

3274
02:03:25,550 --> 02:03:27,210
The County judge announced that one of the

3275
02:03:27,210 --> 02:03:30,110
people who died reported, died today was a

3276
02:03:30,110 --> 02:03:30,990
five-year-old child.

3277
02:03:31,290 --> 02:03:33,250
The top 10 videos that spread lies about

3278
02:03:33,250 --> 02:03:34,950
you had almost 5 million views.

3279
02:03:35,050 --> 02:03:37,190
It's also pointed out that according to Zignal

3280
02:03:37,190 --> 02:03:39,130
Labs, which is a media analysis company that

3281
02:03:39,130 --> 02:03:41,830
tracks this, misinformation about you is the most

3282
02:03:41,830 --> 02:03:45,290
widespread of all coronavirus falsehoods.

3283
02:03:45,810 --> 02:03:49,450
So there's a conspiracy theory that one of

3284
02:03:49,450 --> 02:03:52,110
our viewers asked about.

3285
02:03:52,230 --> 02:03:54,010
I just want to play that, that sound.

3286
02:03:55,490 --> 02:03:57,430
What would you say to the fringe portions

3287
02:03:57,430 --> 02:04:00,910
of the public like conspiracy theorists that seem

3288
02:04:00,910 --> 02:04:03,250
to think that you're somehow responsible for the

3289
02:04:03,250 --> 02:04:03,650
outbreak?

3290
02:04:04,110 --> 02:04:06,310
There's also a conspiracy theory that you're pushing

3291
02:04:06,310 --> 02:04:08,110
vaccines because you're going to inject people with

3292
02:04:08,110 --> 02:04:10,090
a tracking device when they get the vaccine.

3293
02:04:10,150 --> 02:04:11,890
It's all, it's all part of a so

3294
02:04:11,890 --> 02:04:13,930
-called globalist plot to control the world.

3295
02:04:15,570 --> 02:04:17,990
QAnon folks are, you know, which is actually

3296
02:04:17,990 --> 02:04:19,550
a group that's been targeting me as well

3297
02:04:19,550 --> 02:04:22,290
lately, they're claiming falsely that I'm somehow connected

3298
02:04:22,290 --> 02:04:24,790
with Jeffrey Epstein and global Kabbalists of sex

3299
02:04:24,790 --> 02:04:25,330
traffickers.

3300
02:04:25,750 --> 02:04:26,450
It's insane.

3301
02:04:26,630 --> 02:04:28,110
What, what do you say to people who

3302
02:04:28,110 --> 02:04:28,790
believe this stuff?

3303
02:04:28,810 --> 02:04:30,530
Because I mean, I'm sure you are inundated

3304
02:04:30,530 --> 02:04:33,250
by, I am by people direct messaging me,

3305
02:04:33,450 --> 02:04:34,810
just insane stuff.

3306
02:04:35,070 --> 02:04:35,870
It's not at all.

3307
02:04:35,930 --> 02:04:37,290
I mean, I can tell you, I get

3308
02:04:37,290 --> 02:04:39,030
stuff from people who seem, you know, they

3309
02:04:39,030 --> 02:04:40,250
have lives, they have families.

3310
02:04:40,270 --> 02:04:42,130
I don't know if they genuinely believe this

3311
02:04:42,130 --> 02:04:44,490
and they've just been misled, but you know,

3312
02:04:44,530 --> 02:04:46,370
and for me, it's, you know, I, they

3313
02:04:46,370 --> 02:04:48,390
claim I'm, I was on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane

3314
02:04:48,390 --> 02:04:50,110
and going to his Island with Tom Hanks

3315
02:04:50,110 --> 02:04:52,130
or, or, I mean, just, just insane, crazy

3316
02:04:52,130 --> 02:04:52,550
stuff.

3317
02:04:52,910 --> 02:04:55,030
Um, what do you, I mean, do you

3318
02:04:55,030 --> 02:04:57,690
think, I know internet companies are looking at,

3319
02:04:57,710 --> 02:04:59,970
at, at this, do you wish that they

3320
02:04:59,970 --> 02:05:02,410
would play a role in, in taking stuff

3321
02:05:02,410 --> 02:05:04,230
down, which is as demonstrably false?

3322
02:05:04,690 --> 02:05:06,350
Because I mean, it does have real world,

3323
02:05:06,870 --> 02:05:11,030
you know, it does have real world impact

3324
02:05:11,030 --> 02:05:13,490
on, on vaccines or, you know, a nut

3325
02:05:13,490 --> 02:05:15,090
showing up to a pizza parlor in Washington,

3326
02:05:15,090 --> 02:05:16,110
DC with a gun.

3327
02:05:16,590 --> 02:05:16,690
Yeah.

3328
02:05:16,730 --> 02:05:18,790
In some cases they are taking things down.

3329
02:05:19,750 --> 02:05:22,250
Um, you know, it, it's a bad combination

3330
02:05:22,250 --> 02:05:26,110
of pandemic and social media and people looking

3331
02:05:26,110 --> 02:05:28,550
for very simple explanation.

3332
02:05:28,750 --> 02:05:30,150
Who's the bad guy here.

3333
02:05:30,530 --> 02:05:32,550
Um, and a lot of that's been connected

3334
02:05:32,550 --> 02:05:35,110
to politics, um, more in the U S

3335
02:05:35,110 --> 02:05:36,650
than in other locations.

3336
02:05:37,010 --> 02:05:40,150
Um, and you know, of course, vaccines weren't,

3337
02:05:40,150 --> 02:05:42,990
uh, popular with everybody, even before this all,

3338
02:05:43,350 --> 02:05:44,050
all started.

3339
02:05:44,730 --> 02:05:46,590
So I, you know, I'm a big believer

3340
02:05:46,590 --> 02:05:48,050
in getting the truth out.

3341
02:05:48,270 --> 02:05:50,790
And if, if, but it's, it's kind of

3342
02:05:50,790 --> 02:05:54,210
not as titillating to say, you know, uh,

3343
02:05:54,270 --> 02:05:55,270
Cooper is innocent.

3344
02:05:55,910 --> 02:05:59,550
Uh, Oh, well, uh, you know, that's not

3345
02:05:59,550 --> 02:06:00,190
as exciting.

3346
02:06:00,330 --> 02:06:01,970
You don't forward that to quite as many

3347
02:06:01,970 --> 02:06:07,750
people, uh, as you do, um, the, the,

3348
02:06:07,750 --> 02:06:08,610
the acquisition.

3349
02:06:09,050 --> 02:06:09,190
Yeah.

3350
02:06:09,490 --> 02:06:11,710
On Tuesday, the centers for disease control and

3351
02:06:11,710 --> 02:06:15,310
prevention revealed the actual number of coronavirus infections

3352
02:06:15,310 --> 02:06:18,890
nationwide may be 24 times higher than the

3353
02:06:18,890 --> 02:06:19,630
public count.

3354
02:06:20,050 --> 02:06:22,790
This comes as the Trump administration's opposing more

3355
02:06:22,790 --> 02:06:25,250
federal funding for COVID-19 testing.

3356
02:06:25,610 --> 02:06:27,630
The white house has refused to spend up

3357
02:06:27,630 --> 02:06:32,610
to $8 billion already allocated for testing, even

3358
02:06:32,610 --> 02:06:36,430
though many States and cities face severe testing

3359
02:06:36,430 --> 02:06:37,150
shortages.

3360
02:06:37,530 --> 02:06:40,370
This morning is COVID cases mount across the

3361
02:06:40,370 --> 02:06:40,870
country.

3362
02:06:40,970 --> 02:06:43,190
The mass debate is intensifying.

3363
02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:45,030
People are very passionate on both sides of

3364
02:06:45,030 --> 02:06:45,890
the great mass debate.

3365
02:06:45,990 --> 02:06:47,850
The partisan mass debate is heating up mass

3366
02:06:47,850 --> 02:06:48,630
debates growing.

3367
02:06:48,810 --> 02:06:50,770
The president is trying to have us cover

3368
02:06:50,770 --> 02:06:51,510
the mass debate.

3369
02:06:51,630 --> 02:06:54,570
CBS target and Walgreens are getting in on

3370
02:06:54,570 --> 02:06:55,290
the mass debate.

3371
02:06:55,370 --> 02:06:57,550
The mass debate now taking center stage at

3372
02:06:57,550 --> 02:06:58,490
local restaurants.

3373
02:06:58,630 --> 02:07:00,390
It's nine minutes after six now, and there's

3374
02:07:00,390 --> 02:07:02,650
a new video of a raging mass debate.

3375
02:07:02,790 --> 02:07:04,850
The mass debate in Georgia is getting ugly.

3376
02:07:05,010 --> 02:07:07,290
The great mass debate in West Virginia might

3377
02:07:07,290 --> 02:07:08,530
soon be coming to an end.

3378
02:07:08,610 --> 02:07:10,530
This mass debate is far from over.

3379
02:07:10,630 --> 02:07:12,350
How many mass debates have you gotten into?

3380
02:07:12,550 --> 02:07:12,970
Love to hear it.

3381
02:07:12,990 --> 02:07:14,810
The mass debate was taken to a whole

3382
02:07:14,810 --> 02:07:15,430
nother level.

3383
02:07:15,570 --> 02:07:17,930
Bishop David Zubik tells Pittsburgh's action news for,

3384
02:07:18,030 --> 02:07:19,670
he found himself in the middle of a

3385
02:07:19,670 --> 02:07:20,250
mass debate.

3386
02:07:20,410 --> 02:07:22,170
We'll dive deeper into this pet store mass

3387
02:07:22,170 --> 02:07:22,430
debate.

3388
02:07:22,610 --> 02:07:24,350
So we're going to begin with this thing

3389
02:07:24,350 --> 02:07:25,910
we're calling the great mass debate.

3390
02:07:27,310 --> 02:07:29,030
I think we're going to get to the

3391
02:07:29,030 --> 02:07:30,970
point where eye protection is recommended.

3392
02:07:31,950 --> 02:07:33,530
You know, it might, I mean, if you

3393
02:07:33,530 --> 02:07:37,230
really want perfect protection of your mucosal surfaces,

3394
02:07:37,450 --> 02:07:40,610
just for your audience, Jen, as you very

3395
02:07:40,610 --> 02:07:43,130
well know, you have mucosa in the nose,

3396
02:07:43,670 --> 02:07:45,590
mucosa in the mouth, but you also have

3397
02:07:45,590 --> 02:07:46,970
mucosa in the eye.

3398
02:07:47,470 --> 02:07:49,050
And that's one of the things that, you

3399
02:07:49,050 --> 02:07:52,350
know, theoretically you should protect all the mucosal

3400
02:07:52,350 --> 02:07:53,010
surfaces.

3401
02:07:53,330 --> 02:07:55,670
So if you have goggles or an eye

3402
02:07:55,670 --> 02:07:58,250
or an eye shield, you should use it.

3403
02:07:58,350 --> 02:08:01,550
I mean, it's not universally recommended, but if

3404
02:08:01,550 --> 02:08:03,330
you really want to be complete, you should

3405
02:08:03,330 --> 02:08:05,270
probably use it if you can.

3406
02:08:05,570 --> 02:08:07,690
It's just that it's so easy for people

3407
02:08:07,690 --> 02:08:09,190
to just make a cloth mask.

3408
02:08:09,510 --> 02:08:11,010
Moderna vaccines sound concerning.

3409
02:08:11,210 --> 02:08:14,050
We looked after the second dose, at least

3410
02:08:14,050 --> 02:08:18,310
80% of participants experienced a systemic side

3411
02:08:18,310 --> 02:08:21,630
effect ranging from severe chills to fevers.

3412
02:08:22,610 --> 02:08:25,890
So are these vaccines safe?

3413
02:08:27,490 --> 02:08:34,610
Well, the FDA not being pressured will look

3414
02:08:34,610 --> 02:08:35,270
hard at that.

3415
02:08:35,410 --> 02:08:37,510
The FDA is the gold standard of regulators

3416
02:08:37,510 --> 02:08:40,750
and their current guidance on this.

3417
02:08:41,610 --> 02:08:44,170
If they stick with that is very, very

3418
02:08:44,170 --> 02:08:44,730
appropriate.

3419
02:08:46,650 --> 02:08:51,270
And, you know, the side effects were not

3420
02:08:51,270 --> 02:08:52,190
super severe.

3421
02:08:52,330 --> 02:08:55,250
That is, it didn't cause permanent health problems

3422
02:08:55,250 --> 02:08:58,270
for the things that are they, you know,

3423
02:08:58,330 --> 02:09:00,190
Moderna did have to go with a fairly

3424
02:09:00,190 --> 02:09:01,130
high dose.

3425
02:09:01,330 --> 02:09:04,750
And so, you know, to get the antibodies,

3426
02:09:05,290 --> 02:09:08,670
some of the other vaccines are going able

3427
02:09:08,670 --> 02:09:12,470
to go with lower doses to get responses

3428
02:09:12,470 --> 02:09:15,810
that are pretty high, including the J&J

3429
02:09:15,810 --> 02:09:16,490
and the Pfizer.

3430
02:09:16,810 --> 02:09:19,390
And so there's a lot of characteristics of

3431
02:09:19,390 --> 02:09:20,270
these vaccines.

3432
02:09:21,590 --> 02:09:23,850
It's great that we have multiple of them

3433
02:09:23,850 --> 02:09:26,050
that are going out there.

3434
02:09:26,390 --> 02:09:27,930
And yes, I think, you know, the data

3435
02:09:27,930 --> 02:09:30,070
better than I do, but the bill bill

3436
02:09:30,070 --> 02:09:31,670
that the data showed that everybody with a

3437
02:09:31,670 --> 02:09:33,670
high dose had a side effect.

3438
02:09:34,690 --> 02:09:34,810
Yeah.

3439
02:09:34,890 --> 02:09:37,070
But some of that is, is not dramatic

3440
02:09:37,070 --> 02:09:39,350
where, you know, it's just, you know, super

3441
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:41,950
painful, but yes, there, we need to make

3442
02:09:41,950 --> 02:09:43,730
sure there's not severe side effects.

3443
02:09:43,950 --> 02:09:47,950
The FDA, I, I, I think we'll do

3444
02:09:47,950 --> 02:09:50,390
a good job of that despite the pressure.

3445
02:09:50,850 --> 02:09:52,590
How many doses of the vaccine will we

3446
02:09:52,590 --> 02:09:52,850
need?

3447
02:09:53,470 --> 02:09:55,750
Well, none of the vaccines at this point

3448
02:09:55,750 --> 02:09:57,650
appear like they'll work with a single dose.

3449
02:09:57,690 --> 02:10:00,990
That was the hope at the very beginning.

3450
02:10:02,290 --> 02:10:04,290
Maybe one of them, particularly in the second

3451
02:10:04,290 --> 02:10:05,510
generation, won't surprise us.

3452
02:10:05,590 --> 02:10:08,050
We hope just two, although in the elderly,

3453
02:10:08,450 --> 02:10:11,590
sometimes it, it takes more.

3454
02:10:11,590 --> 02:10:13,570
And so making sure we have lots of

3455
02:10:13,570 --> 02:10:16,210
elderly people in the trial will give us

3456
02:10:16,210 --> 02:10:16,810
that data.

3457
02:10:17,050 --> 02:10:18,590
The gentleman yields back.

3458
02:10:18,750 --> 02:10:22,330
I would remind Mr. Jordan, Mr. Biggs, and

3459
02:10:22,330 --> 02:10:25,070
Mr. Johnson to stop violating the rules of

3460
02:10:25,070 --> 02:10:27,930
the committee, to stop violating the safety of

3461
02:10:27,930 --> 02:10:30,890
the members of the committee, to stop, um,

3462
02:10:31,090 --> 02:10:34,330
holding themselves out as not caring by refusing

3463
02:10:34,330 --> 02:10:35,150
to wear their masks.

3464
02:10:36,410 --> 02:10:38,150
Is it permissible to drink a sip of

3465
02:10:38,150 --> 02:10:38,250
coffee?

3466
02:10:38,250 --> 02:10:39,050
It is not permissible.

3467
02:10:39,590 --> 02:10:40,410
Not to drink.

3468
02:10:40,510 --> 02:10:40,970
We can't drink.

3469
02:10:40,970 --> 02:10:42,190
I'm getting ready to ask questions now.

3470
02:10:43,290 --> 02:10:43,970
I'm getting ready to ask questions.

3471
02:10:43,970 --> 02:10:48,730
Mr, um, Mr. Gates is recognized.

3472
02:10:48,930 --> 02:10:49,290
No, no, no.

3473
02:10:49,370 --> 02:10:49,830
He's already went.

3474
02:10:49,950 --> 02:10:50,610
He went.

3475
02:10:50,710 --> 02:10:51,950
And that's why I took off my mask,

3476
02:10:52,090 --> 02:10:52,710
Mr. Chairman.

3477
02:10:53,030 --> 02:10:53,610
I'm going to go.

3478
02:10:53,710 --> 02:10:54,090
I'm going to go.

3479
02:10:54,370 --> 02:10:54,550
Okay.

3480
02:10:54,870 --> 02:10:56,130
Mr. Jordan is recognized.

3481
02:10:56,990 --> 02:11:00,810
Claiming my time in April, President Trump irresponsibly

3482
02:11:00,810 --> 02:11:06,170
suggested that the American people inject themselves with

3483
02:11:06,170 --> 02:11:06,950
bleach.

3484
02:11:07,710 --> 02:11:08,410
Was that superb?

3485
02:11:08,410 --> 02:11:10,050
Yes or no.

3486
02:11:10,250 --> 02:11:11,170
That's not what I heard.

3487
02:11:11,550 --> 02:11:12,910
That's exactly what he said.

3488
02:11:13,090 --> 02:11:15,110
That's what the American people heard.

3489
02:11:15,230 --> 02:11:17,790
And you know it and you can't defend

3490
02:11:17,790 --> 02:11:17,970
it.

3491
02:11:18,070 --> 02:11:19,550
Let's move on to May.

3492
02:11:20,710 --> 02:11:23,730
Tonight, the startling new prediction from the CDC,

3493
02:11:24,270 --> 02:11:27,410
America could see 20,000 more deaths in

3494
02:11:27,410 --> 02:11:28,610
the next three weeks.

3495
02:11:28,610 --> 02:11:30,910
And Florida in the middle of a pandemic

3496
02:11:30,910 --> 02:11:32,950
now bracing for a hurricane.

3497
02:11:33,990 --> 02:11:37,570
Florida's governor declaring a state of emergency, shutting

3498
02:11:37,570 --> 02:11:39,230
down COVID testing sites.

3499
02:11:39,570 --> 02:11:41,710
The president on the ground there tonight, greeting

3500
02:11:41,710 --> 02:11:44,410
a crowd of supporters without masks.

3501
02:11:44,910 --> 02:11:48,110
All this as Hurricane Isaias pounds the Caribbean

3502
02:11:48,110 --> 02:11:51,450
with devastating floods and is now threatening major

3503
02:11:51,450 --> 02:11:53,450
cities along the East Coast.

3504
02:11:54,690 --> 02:11:55,890
Deadline looming.

3505
02:11:56,170 --> 02:11:58,890
More than 25 million Americans will lose critical

3506
02:11:58,890 --> 02:12:02,270
unemployment aid at midnight as Congress goes home

3507
02:12:02,270 --> 02:12:04,690
for the weekend without reaching a deal.

3508
02:12:05,730 --> 02:12:08,010
Unfounded attacks on mail-in voting.

3509
02:12:08,490 --> 02:12:12,270
The president continues to undermine the longstanding practice

3510
02:12:12,270 --> 02:12:13,510
of voting by mail.

3511
02:12:14,030 --> 02:12:16,670
Growing concerns that the U.S. Postal Service,

3512
02:12:17,050 --> 02:12:19,330
led by one of President Trump's biggest donors,

3513
02:12:19,730 --> 02:12:21,390
is slowing mail service.

3514
02:12:21,630 --> 02:12:23,870
Is that mail is backing up, is getting

3515
02:12:23,870 --> 02:12:24,350
delayed.

3516
02:12:24,790 --> 02:12:29,410
Democrats tonight accuse President Trump of undermining democracy.

3517
02:12:30,510 --> 02:12:32,070
Bitcoin bust.

3518
02:12:32,290 --> 02:12:35,510
Tonight, Florida authorities arrest the mastermind behind that

3519
02:12:35,510 --> 02:12:40,030
Twitter attack of 130 accounts, including President Obama,

3520
02:12:40,490 --> 02:12:42,310
Jeff Bezos, and Elon Musk.

3521
02:12:42,610 --> 02:12:45,470
Turns out he's 17 years old.

3522
02:12:46,450 --> 02:12:49,690
And tonight, CBS's Steve Hartman is on the

3523
02:12:49,690 --> 02:12:53,010
road with a local businessman who's helping send

3524
02:12:53,010 --> 02:12:55,530
75 kids to college.

3525
02:12:55,530 --> 02:12:58,610
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

3526
02:12:58,730 --> 02:13:01,050
Dr. Fauci, do protests increase the spread of

3527
02:13:01,050 --> 02:13:01,550
the virus?

3528
02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:06,280
Do protests increase the spread of the virus?

3529
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:08,880
I think I can make a general statement.

3530
02:13:09,200 --> 02:13:11,100
Well, half a million protesters on June 6

3531
02:13:11,100 --> 02:13:11,340
alone.

3532
02:13:11,340 --> 02:13:12,800
I'm just asking that number of people.

3533
02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:14,280
Does it increase the spread of the virus?

3534
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:18,120
Crowding together, particularly when you're not wearing a

3535
02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:20,760
mask, contributes to the spread of the virus.

3536
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:21,900
Should we limit the protesting?

3537
02:13:23,740 --> 02:13:25,440
I'm not sure what you mean.

3538
02:13:25,480 --> 02:13:27,140
Should how do we say limit the protesting?

3539
02:13:27,140 --> 02:13:29,040
The government limit the protesting.

3540
02:13:31,780 --> 02:13:33,560
I don't think that's relevant to.

3541
02:13:34,260 --> 02:13:35,800
Well, you just said if it increases the

3542
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:37,020
spread of the virus, I'm just asking, should

3543
02:13:37,020 --> 02:13:37,500
we limit it?

3544
02:13:38,340 --> 02:13:40,360
Well, I'm not in a position to determine

3545
02:13:40,360 --> 02:13:42,060
what the government can do in a forceful

3546
02:13:42,060 --> 02:13:42,400
way.

3547
02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:43,920
Well, you make all kinds of recommendations.

3548
02:13:44,060 --> 02:13:46,460
You make comments on dating, on baseball, and

3549
02:13:46,460 --> 02:13:47,300
everything you can imagine.

3550
02:13:47,400 --> 02:13:47,860
I'm just asking.

3551
02:13:47,940 --> 02:13:50,020
You just said that protests increase the spread.

3552
02:13:50,140 --> 02:13:51,280
I'm just asking, should we try to limit

3553
02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:51,620
the protest?

3554
02:13:51,780 --> 02:13:52,940
No, I think I would leave that to

3555
02:13:52,940 --> 02:13:55,380
people who have more of a position to

3556
02:13:55,380 --> 02:13:55,740
do that.

3557
02:13:55,820 --> 02:13:56,820
I can tell you.

3558
02:13:56,820 --> 02:13:59,580
Government stopping people from going to church, Dr.

3559
02:13:59,720 --> 02:14:00,080
Fauci.

3560
02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:03,480
Last week in the Calvary Chapel case, five

3561
02:14:03,480 --> 02:14:05,080
liberals on the Supreme Court said it was

3562
02:14:05,080 --> 02:14:07,720
OK for Nevada to limit church services.

3563
02:14:09,400 --> 02:14:11,300
I mean, Justice Gorsuch said it best.

3564
02:14:11,400 --> 02:14:12,940
He said there's no there's no world in

3565
02:14:12,940 --> 02:14:15,260
which the Constitution permits Nevada to favor Caesar's

3566
02:14:15,260 --> 02:14:16,420
Palace over Calvary Chapel.

3567
02:14:16,540 --> 02:14:17,860
I'm just asking, is there a world where

3568
02:14:17,860 --> 02:14:20,180
the Constitution says you can favor one First

3569
02:14:20,180 --> 02:14:24,160
Amendment liberty protesting over another practicing your faith?

3570
02:14:24,860 --> 02:14:27,140
I'm not favoring anybody over anybody.

3571
02:14:27,380 --> 02:14:29,400
I'm just making a statement that's a broad

3572
02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:33,140
statement that avoid crowds of any type, no

3573
02:14:33,140 --> 02:14:36,140
matter where you are, because that leads to

3574
02:14:36,140 --> 02:14:37,900
the acquisition and transmission.

3575
02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:40,920
And I don't judge one crowd versus another

3576
02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:41,360
crowd.

3577
02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:43,600
When you're in a crowd, particularly if you're

3578
02:14:43,600 --> 02:14:46,080
not wearing a mask, that induces.

3579
02:14:46,460 --> 02:14:47,940
It's a simple question, doctor.

3580
02:14:48,040 --> 02:14:49,180
Should we limit the protest?

3581
02:14:49,380 --> 02:14:51,000
Government is obviously limiting people.

3582
02:14:51,300 --> 02:14:54,740
And look, I know there's been no violence

3583
02:14:54,740 --> 02:14:56,060
that I can see at church.

3584
02:14:56,140 --> 02:14:57,700
I haven't seen people during a church service

3585
02:14:57,700 --> 02:14:59,900
go out and harm police officers or burn

3586
02:14:59,900 --> 02:15:00,300
buildings.

3587
02:15:00,300 --> 02:15:02,060
But we know that I mean, for 63

3588
02:15:02,060 --> 02:15:04,500
days, nine weeks, it's been happening in Portland.

3589
02:15:05,500 --> 02:15:08,740
One night in Chicago, 49 officers were injured,

3590
02:15:09,280 --> 02:15:12,020
but no limit to no limit to protest.

3591
02:15:12,180 --> 02:15:14,100
But boy, you can't go to church on

3592
02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:14,340
Sunday.

3593
02:15:15,300 --> 02:15:17,160
I don't know how many times I can

3594
02:15:17,160 --> 02:15:17,620
answer that.

3595
02:15:17,700 --> 02:15:19,740
I'm not going to opine on limiting anything.

3596
02:15:19,740 --> 02:15:21,620
I'm just going to tell you, you've opined

3597
02:15:21,620 --> 02:15:23,280
on a lot of things, Dr. Yeah, but

3598
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:25,220
I've never seen something that directly impacts the

3599
02:15:25,220 --> 02:15:25,880
spread of the virus.

3600
02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:27,860
And I'm asking your your your position on

3601
02:15:27,860 --> 02:15:28,460
the protest.

3602
02:15:28,580 --> 02:15:30,620
Yeah, I'm well, I'm not going to opine

3603
02:15:30,620 --> 02:15:31,640
on limiting anything.

3604
02:15:31,640 --> 02:15:33,960
I'm telling you what it is, the danger.

3605
02:15:34,500 --> 02:15:36,720
And you can make your own conclusion about

3606
02:15:36,720 --> 02:15:37,080
that.

3607
02:15:37,420 --> 02:15:40,000
You should stay away from crowds, no matter

3608
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:42,140
where the government is.

3609
02:15:42,360 --> 02:15:45,080
Government has stopped people from going to work.

3610
02:15:45,580 --> 02:15:48,160
In fact, just in New Jersey four days

3611
02:15:48,160 --> 02:15:53,000
ago, Ian Smith, Frank Trombetta were arrested for

3612
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:55,100
opening up for trying to operate their business,

3613
02:15:55,260 --> 02:15:55,920
their gym.

3614
02:15:56,460 --> 02:15:57,300
They were arrested.

3615
02:15:57,720 --> 02:16:00,240
But my bet is if these two individuals

3616
02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:02,020
own this gym were outside just in front

3617
02:16:02,020 --> 02:16:03,540
of their gym and all the people who

3618
02:16:03,540 --> 02:16:05,260
are working out in their gym were outside

3619
02:16:05,260 --> 02:16:06,760
protesting, they'd been just fine.

3620
02:16:06,800 --> 02:16:08,800
But because they were in the gym working

3621
02:16:08,800 --> 02:16:11,600
out, actually running their business, they got arrested.

3622
02:16:11,680 --> 02:16:12,300
You think that's OK?

3623
02:16:13,560 --> 02:16:15,140
You know, I'm not going to opine on

3624
02:16:15,140 --> 02:16:16,980
who gets arrested and who does not.

3625
02:16:17,260 --> 02:16:19,380
I mean, I you get where I'm going.

3626
02:16:19,520 --> 02:16:21,840
I'm telling you, as a public health official,

3627
02:16:22,060 --> 02:16:23,600
I say crowd.

3628
02:16:23,660 --> 02:16:25,600
Do you see the inconsistency, though, Dr. Fauci?

3629
02:16:25,700 --> 02:16:27,460
There's no inconsistency, Congressman.

3630
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:27,960
What?

3631
02:16:28,040 --> 02:16:28,460
There's no one.

3632
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:31,100
So you're allowed to protest millions of people

3633
02:16:31,100 --> 02:16:33,420
on one day in crowds yelling, screaming.

3634
02:16:33,500 --> 02:16:34,980
But you try to run your business, you

3635
02:16:34,980 --> 02:16:35,480
get arrested.

3636
02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:36,879
And if you stood right outside of that

3637
02:16:36,879 --> 02:16:38,799
same business and protested, you wouldn't get arrested.

3638
02:16:38,900 --> 02:16:40,000
You don't see any inconsistency there.

3639
02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:42,780
I don't understand what you're asking me as

3640
02:16:42,780 --> 02:16:45,260
a public health official to opine on who

3641
02:16:45,260 --> 02:16:46,980
should get arrested or not.

3642
02:16:47,320 --> 02:16:48,420
That's not my position.

3643
02:16:48,799 --> 02:16:50,820
You could ask as much as you've advocated

3644
02:16:50,820 --> 02:16:51,799
for certain businesses.

3645
02:16:51,799 --> 02:16:54,100
You've advocated for certain businesses to be shut

3646
02:16:54,100 --> 02:16:54,340
down.

3647
02:16:54,459 --> 02:16:56,340
I'm I'm just asking you on your position

3648
02:16:56,340 --> 02:16:57,040
on the protest.

3649
02:16:57,280 --> 02:16:58,559
I mean, I haven't seen one.

3650
02:16:59,400 --> 02:17:01,139
We've heard a lot about hair salons.

3651
02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:04,200
I haven't seen one hairstylist who between haircuts

3652
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:07,320
goes out and attacks police or set something

3653
02:17:07,320 --> 02:17:07,700
on fire.

3654
02:17:07,700 --> 02:17:08,940
But we've seen all kinds of that stuff

3655
02:17:08,940 --> 02:17:09,760
during protests.

3656
02:17:09,879 --> 02:17:12,139
And we know the protests actually increase the

3657
02:17:12,139 --> 02:17:12,680
spread of the virus.

3658
02:17:12,740 --> 02:17:13,420
You've said that.

3659
02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:15,639
I said crowds.

3660
02:17:16,020 --> 02:17:17,620
I didn't say specifically.

3661
02:17:17,799 --> 02:17:19,580
I didn't say protests do anything.

3662
02:17:19,620 --> 02:17:21,320
So the protests don't increase the spread of

3663
02:17:21,320 --> 02:17:21,520
the virus?

3664
02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:22,340
I didn't say that.

3665
02:17:22,400 --> 02:17:23,580
You're putting words in my mouth.

3666
02:17:23,620 --> 02:17:25,120
No, I want I would I just want

3667
02:17:25,120 --> 02:17:25,940
an answer to the question.

3668
02:17:26,020 --> 02:17:27,540
Do the protests increase the spread of the

3669
02:17:27,540 --> 02:17:27,860
virus?

3670
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:30,379
I don't have any scientific evidence that anything

3671
02:17:30,379 --> 02:17:32,680
I can tell you that crowds are known,

3672
02:17:33,200 --> 02:17:35,480
particularly when you don't have a mask, to

3673
02:17:35,480 --> 02:17:39,420
increase the acquisition and transmission, no matter what.

3674
02:17:39,420 --> 02:17:41,580
You don't have a position on whether the

3675
02:17:41,580 --> 02:17:43,840
protest increased the spread of the virus or

3676
02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:45,219
don't increase the spread of the virus.

3677
02:17:45,660 --> 02:17:49,200
I'm saying that crowds, wherever the crowds are,

3678
02:17:49,520 --> 02:17:52,840
can give you an increased probability that there's

3679
02:17:52,840 --> 02:17:55,340
going to be acquisition and transmission.

3680
02:17:55,559 --> 02:17:57,500
But do you understand Americans concern?

3681
02:17:58,920 --> 02:18:02,080
Protesting, according to the Democrats is just fine,

3682
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:03,299
but you can't go to work.

3683
02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:04,240
You can't go to school.

3684
02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:05,400
You can't go to church.

3685
02:18:05,879 --> 02:18:08,040
There's limits placed on all three of those

3686
02:18:08,040 --> 02:18:10,480
fundamental activities, First Amendment activities.

3687
02:18:10,639 --> 02:18:12,120
But protesting is just fine.

3688
02:18:12,580 --> 02:18:13,700
But will you get to meet with them

3689
02:18:13,700 --> 02:18:14,620
in person, do you think?

3690
02:18:14,760 --> 02:18:15,400
Well, I'm sorry.

3691
02:18:15,500 --> 02:18:16,580
Will you be able to meet with them

3692
02:18:16,580 --> 02:18:17,520
face to face?

3693
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:18,719
Well, we'll see.

3694
02:18:19,879 --> 02:18:21,080
Going to have to wear masks.

3695
02:18:21,879 --> 02:18:22,879
They will have to wear masks.

3696
02:18:23,059 --> 02:18:24,580
Will you get tested, do you think, if

3697
02:18:24,580 --> 02:18:26,400
you have to do that for covid?

3698
02:18:28,670 --> 02:18:30,330
I'm not prepared to say much more than

3699
02:18:30,330 --> 02:18:30,850
that right now.

3700
02:18:31,430 --> 02:18:31,910
Thank you.

3701
02:18:31,910 --> 02:18:34,110
You wear the mask so you don't make

3702
02:18:34,110 --> 02:18:35,770
somebody else sick.

3703
02:18:36,830 --> 02:18:37,969
I want to ask- Sick.

3704
02:18:38,830 --> 02:18:40,110
What's with this guy?

3705
02:18:40,610 --> 02:18:41,670
Steve, that's our time.

3706
02:18:41,950 --> 02:18:42,170
Okay.

3707
02:18:47,950 --> 02:18:53,559
I don't believe that it's quite as deadly

3708
02:18:53,559 --> 02:18:55,219
as our government is leading us all to

3709
02:18:55,219 --> 02:18:55,480
be.

3710
02:18:56,139 --> 02:18:58,240
I think it's going to be more to

3711
02:18:58,240 --> 02:18:59,200
do with the vaccine.

3712
02:19:00,219 --> 02:19:02,379
And they want everyone to have the vaccine,

3713
02:19:02,740 --> 02:19:05,440
even though we don't want it, basically.

3714
02:19:05,440 --> 02:19:07,860
So that's why I'm here, just giving my

3715
02:19:07,860 --> 02:19:08,260
support.

3716
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:12,299
So we are here exercising our democratic right

3717
02:19:12,299 --> 02:19:12,840
to assemble.

3718
02:19:13,459 --> 02:19:14,840
I'm concerned about the way the country's going

3719
02:19:14,840 --> 02:19:16,580
in terms of mandatory face masks used.

3720
02:19:17,040 --> 02:19:17,980
Now, this is my body.

3721
02:19:18,299 --> 02:19:18,420
Okay.

3722
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:20,100
I used to be a nurse, a mental

3723
02:19:20,100 --> 02:19:20,620
health nurse.

3724
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:22,700
And one of the things we learned as

3725
02:19:22,700 --> 02:19:25,080
mental health nursing students is that it is

3726
02:19:25,080 --> 02:19:28,660
considered battery to impulsively put something on a

3727
02:19:28,660 --> 02:19:30,280
person's body without their consent.

3728
02:19:31,059 --> 02:19:34,400
COVID-19 was called COVID-19 because it's

3729
02:19:34,400 --> 02:19:36,879
19 years since the last bloody disaster, which

3730
02:19:36,879 --> 02:19:41,200
was the made-up Twin Tower explosions.

3731
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:43,860
COVID actually stands for- Look, I can't

3732
02:19:43,860 --> 02:19:44,820
remember what it is.

3733
02:19:44,900 --> 02:19:45,540
I've had half a beer.

3734
02:19:46,020 --> 02:19:49,780
But this is all just a reset button.

3735
02:19:49,880 --> 02:19:51,040
This is to hurry things up.

3736
02:19:51,080 --> 02:19:52,460
They want to get Trump off his perch.

3737
02:19:52,560 --> 02:19:53,680
This is the only way they can do

3738
02:19:53,680 --> 02:19:53,780
it.

3739
02:19:53,800 --> 02:19:55,040
They've got to stop those elections.

3740
02:19:55,500 --> 02:19:56,900
They've got to get the Democrats in.

3741
02:19:56,980 --> 02:19:58,700
They've got to get old sleepy Joe Biden

3742
02:19:58,700 --> 02:19:58,940
in.

3743
02:19:58,940 --> 02:20:00,800
What they're looking to do is get the

3744
02:20:00,800 --> 02:20:03,340
Blacks uprising by these Antifa riots.

3745
02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:06,060
This Democrat state's bloody melting down at the

3746
02:20:06,060 --> 02:20:08,520
moment because their counselors are all brown envelopes.

3747
02:20:08,620 --> 02:20:09,660
They're all paid off.

3748
02:20:10,040 --> 02:20:12,340
We know it's corrupt around the whole Western

3749
02:20:12,340 --> 02:20:13,360
nations, everywhere.

3750
02:20:13,480 --> 02:20:14,720
The counselors are all paid off.

3751
02:20:14,780 --> 02:20:17,460
They're all Marxists, all playing the Chinese game

3752
02:20:17,460 --> 02:20:19,440
because China pays their wages.

3753
02:20:19,960 --> 02:20:20,580
That's it.

3754
02:20:20,940 --> 02:20:23,100
I mean, it's like past time for us

3755
02:20:23,100 --> 02:20:24,920
to have a debate about hydroxychloroquine.

3756
02:20:24,940 --> 02:20:26,580
We shouldn't be, but let me just say,

3757
02:20:26,660 --> 02:20:27,980
first of all, there's many millions of doctors

3758
02:20:27,980 --> 02:20:28,440
in this country.

3759
02:20:28,440 --> 02:20:30,220
There's five peer-reviewed studies that show it

3760
02:20:30,220 --> 02:20:30,920
not to be true.

3761
02:20:31,300 --> 02:20:32,680
There's Dr. Birx.

3762
02:20:32,800 --> 02:20:33,720
There's Dr. Girard.

3763
02:20:33,900 --> 02:20:34,900
There's Dr. Fauci.

3764
02:20:35,200 --> 02:20:35,620
Hang on.

3765
02:20:35,700 --> 02:20:38,100
And to that study, particularly Dr. Fauci said

3766
02:20:38,100 --> 02:20:40,240
that study is a flawed study.

3767
02:20:40,380 --> 02:20:42,400
But I need to do this, Peter, because

3768
02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:44,100
what you're saying is irresponsible.

3769
02:20:45,100 --> 02:20:46,860
All right, let me say this to you,

3770
02:20:46,980 --> 02:20:47,220
okay?

3771
02:20:47,440 --> 02:20:49,560
And I reach out to all your viewers.

3772
02:20:50,260 --> 02:20:52,840
Scott Adams, you know Scott Adams, right?

3773
02:20:52,860 --> 02:20:54,700
He's the guy who wrote the Dilbert cartoon.

3774
02:20:54,700 --> 02:20:57,940
He did a beautiful video, 10-minute video

3775
02:20:57,940 --> 02:20:58,700
on Twitter.

3776
02:20:59,260 --> 02:21:01,520
And the thesis of the video is that

3777
02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:05,620
CNN might be killing thousands because of the

3778
02:21:05,620 --> 02:21:06,740
way they've treated that.

3779
02:21:06,800 --> 02:21:09,100
So I would just ask, I'll let Scott

3780
02:21:09,100 --> 02:21:11,500
Adams' video be my defense on this.

3781
02:21:11,520 --> 02:21:12,760
Okay, well, can I just say something?

3782
02:21:12,920 --> 02:21:14,560
I find that to be offensive because he's

3783
02:21:14,560 --> 02:21:15,600
a comic strip writer.

3784
02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:17,020
So for you to say that he-

3785
02:21:17,220 --> 02:21:18,920
Okay, so I just want to give you,

3786
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:19,760
because I want to be clear.

3787
02:21:20,040 --> 02:21:21,400
I just said Dr. Fauci.

3788
02:21:21,920 --> 02:21:23,400
The person that the president of the United

3789
02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:24,580
States- Dr. O'Neill.

3790
02:21:24,800 --> 02:21:26,820
Is in charge of testing, Dr. Brett Giroir.

3791
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:29,320
As of today, and I say as of

3792
02:21:29,320 --> 02:21:34,180
today at this hour, we have 33 confirmed

3793
02:21:34,180 --> 02:21:36,720
positive tests for the virus.

3794
02:21:37,200 --> 02:21:38,880
Yesterday we had 22 cases.

3795
02:21:39,320 --> 02:21:41,080
Today we have 33 cases.

3796
02:21:41,480 --> 02:21:42,620
So it's gone up by 11.

3797
02:21:44,580 --> 02:21:48,680
That brings, those are 11 new cases, 22

3798
02:21:48,680 --> 02:21:49,540
goes to 33.

3799
02:21:49,540 --> 02:21:53,040
As we sort through this here in Arkansas,

3800
02:21:55,160 --> 02:21:59,940
today we have 33 confirmed positive cases in

3801
02:21:59,940 --> 02:22:00,320
Arkansas.

3802
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:04,080
As of today, we have 33 confirmed cases

3803
02:22:04,080 --> 02:22:05,860
with Boston residents.

3804
02:22:06,280 --> 02:22:07,940
We expect those numbers to climb.

3805
02:22:08,820 --> 02:22:13,300
As of this afternoon, we have 33 Pennsylvanians

3806
02:22:13,300 --> 02:22:16,120
who have tested positive for COVID-19.

3807
02:22:16,120 --> 02:22:19,580
Um, so as of this morning, there were

3808
02:22:19,580 --> 02:22:22,340
33 confirmed cases in North Carolina.

3809
02:22:22,640 --> 02:22:23,200
Good evening to you.

3810
02:22:23,460 --> 02:22:24,540
Lots to get to tonight.

3811
02:22:24,920 --> 02:22:25,700
I'm Leon Hedbergs.

3812
02:22:25,960 --> 02:22:27,860
We want to start with new information into

3813
02:22:27,860 --> 02:22:28,520
our newsroom.

3814
02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:31,080
Within the past couple of hours, there are

3815
02:22:31,080 --> 02:22:34,700
now 33 confirmed cases of the coronavirus in

3816
02:22:34,700 --> 02:22:35,040
Michigan.

3817
02:22:35,420 --> 02:22:36,620
Good evening, everyone.

3818
02:22:36,780 --> 02:22:38,080
Thanks for joining us for the news at

3819
02:22:38,080 --> 02:22:38,360
six.

3820
02:22:38,480 --> 02:22:39,100
I'm Richard Giroir.

3821
02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:40,880
Corrina Corral has the night off.

3822
02:22:41,400 --> 02:22:43,540
More cases of the coronavirus were confirmed today

3823
02:22:43,540 --> 02:22:45,880
in San Luis Obispo County, bringing the total

3824
02:22:45,880 --> 02:22:47,100
number down to 33.

3825
02:22:47,780 --> 02:22:50,260
Right now, Georgia is reporting a total of

3826
02:22:50,260 --> 02:22:52,380
99 cases in 19 counties.

3827
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:56,100
That is 33 new cases from just yesterday.

3828
02:22:56,580 --> 02:22:57,040
Good afternoon.

3829
02:22:57,200 --> 02:22:57,860
I'm Karen Swenson.

3830
02:22:58,140 --> 02:23:00,460
More cases and more events affected.

3831
02:23:00,700 --> 02:23:02,820
Here is the latest coronavirus news.

3832
02:23:03,300 --> 02:23:06,000
There are now 33 cases in Louisiana.

3833
02:23:06,580 --> 02:23:11,420
As expected, the number of cases of COVID

3834
02:23:11,420 --> 02:23:12,580
-19 jumps.

3835
02:23:12,580 --> 02:23:14,920
A total of 33 people in our state

3836
02:23:14,920 --> 02:23:18,040
have been tested and are confirmed to have

3837
02:23:18,040 --> 02:23:18,840
the coronavirus.

3838
02:23:19,300 --> 02:23:21,080
Day four of the shelter-at-home order

3839
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:23,700
brought six new confirmed cases of the coronavirus

3840
02:23:23,700 --> 02:23:26,340
to San Luis Obispo County, bringing the total

3841
02:23:26,340 --> 02:23:27,380
number to 33.

3842
02:23:28,160 --> 02:23:31,100
All troopers will be professional, polite, and we'll

3843
02:23:31,100 --> 02:23:32,640
treat everyone with dignity and respect.

3844
02:23:32,840 --> 02:23:34,500
These latest steps is the number of confirmed

3845
02:23:34,500 --> 02:23:36,640
COVID-19 cases in Rhode Island jumps by

3846
02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:37,800
33 overnight.

3847
02:23:38,080 --> 02:23:40,100
Dr. Fauci, great to see you again.

3848
02:23:40,220 --> 02:23:41,040
Allison here.

3849
02:23:41,740 --> 02:23:42,280
Hi, Allison.

3850
02:23:42,500 --> 02:23:42,780
Hi.

3851
02:23:43,120 --> 02:23:45,360
I have been listening with rapt attention, but

3852
02:23:45,360 --> 02:23:46,920
I feel like John didn't get to the

3853
02:23:46,920 --> 02:23:49,620
really burning question that America has for you,

3854
02:23:49,720 --> 02:23:51,420
and that is, did you hear that Brad

3855
02:23:51,420 --> 02:23:53,660
was nominated for an Emmy for playing you?

3856
02:23:56,160 --> 02:23:57,160
Yes, I did.

3857
02:23:58,140 --> 02:24:00,300
What a surreal world we're living in, Allison.

3858
02:24:01,840 --> 02:24:03,360
I mean, I hope he wins.

3859
02:24:04,000 --> 02:24:05,140
He's a great actor.

3860
02:24:05,300 --> 02:24:06,680
I mean, he's one of my favorite actors,

3861
02:24:06,680 --> 02:24:08,160
so I really do hope he wins.

3862
02:24:08,540 --> 02:24:10,660
Have you spoken to him since he played

3863
02:24:10,660 --> 02:24:10,900
you?

3864
02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:12,440
You know, I have not.

3865
02:24:12,600 --> 02:24:13,900
I would love to meet him, because I've

3866
02:24:13,900 --> 02:24:15,340
been such a great admirer of him and

3867
02:24:15,340 --> 02:24:16,940
his talent, but I have not spoken to

3868
02:24:16,940 --> 02:24:17,120
him.

3869
02:24:17,460 --> 02:24:19,600
I feel like we can make that happen,

3870
02:24:19,720 --> 02:24:20,440
Dr. Fauci.

3871
02:24:21,100 --> 02:24:23,160
I feel like we, you know, you and

3872
02:24:23,160 --> 02:24:25,460
I have the power to have you meet

3873
02:24:25,460 --> 02:24:27,320
Brad, because I sort of feel like anything

3874
02:24:27,320 --> 02:24:28,980
you and I suggest, he does.

3875
02:24:29,480 --> 02:24:30,320
Well, we'll see.

3876
02:24:30,760 --> 02:24:31,420
We'll see.

3877
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:32,460
Thanks, Allison.

3878
02:24:32,660 --> 02:24:33,780
I'm not done with you, Dr. Fauci.

3879
02:24:33,920 --> 02:24:36,780
Would you like to go up on stage

3880
02:24:36,780 --> 02:24:37,580
when he wins?

3881
02:24:37,660 --> 02:24:38,720
Would you like to be there to help

3882
02:24:38,720 --> 02:24:39,980
accept the Emmy Award?

3883
02:24:40,580 --> 02:24:41,040
Yeah.

3884
02:24:42,320 --> 02:24:43,800
You know, Allison, the only reason I have

3885
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:46,980
hesitancy about that is that we're in the

3886
02:24:46,980 --> 02:24:50,440
middle of an outbreak, a really bad pandemic.

3887
02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:53,600
And I think that if that association with

3888
02:24:53,600 --> 02:24:57,560
kind of show business thing might be misinterpreted,

3889
02:24:57,580 --> 02:24:59,640
that it's I'm not serious about what I'm

3890
02:24:59,640 --> 02:24:59,940
doing.

3891
02:25:00,160 --> 02:25:02,660
So I'd rather focus on my job and

3892
02:25:02,660 --> 02:25:04,680
really wish him well that he wins.

3893
02:25:04,980 --> 02:25:06,320
I was afraid there was going to be

3894
02:25:06,320 --> 02:25:07,620
a point that I pushed you too far.

3895
02:25:07,620 --> 02:25:09,800
And I feel that we have just gotten

3896
02:25:09,800 --> 02:25:12,320
up to that point.

3897
02:25:12,440 --> 02:25:15,380
But we really appreciate how playful you have

3898
02:25:15,380 --> 02:25:17,980
been on the lighter note with all of

3899
02:25:17,980 --> 02:25:18,140
that.

3900
02:25:18,240 --> 02:25:19,100
And it was just great.

3901
02:25:19,220 --> 02:25:20,800
I mean, it was just a great moment

3902
02:25:20,800 --> 02:25:23,240
to watch, you know, that obviously Brad Pitt

3903
02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:25,060
is a fan of yours and all of

3904
02:25:25,060 --> 02:25:26,300
your information as well.

3905
02:25:26,460 --> 02:25:28,220
You had all of those claims yesterday.

3906
02:25:28,580 --> 02:25:30,340
Now you've got new claims today that we

3907
02:25:30,340 --> 02:25:30,940
just reported.

3908
02:25:31,060 --> 02:25:34,680
These guards were taking cash in hand while

3909
02:25:34,680 --> 02:25:38,680
also claiming JobKeeper payments and also taking guests

3910
02:25:38,680 --> 02:25:41,800
out to supermarkets and 7-Elevens and what

3911
02:25:41,800 --> 02:25:42,120
have you.

3912
02:25:42,200 --> 02:25:43,040
I mean, what do you make of all

3913
02:25:43,040 --> 02:25:43,320
of that?

3914
02:25:43,880 --> 02:25:47,780
Well, this is a scandal of monumental proportions.

3915
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:49,440
I mean, this is a complete fiasco.

3916
02:25:50,220 --> 02:25:54,020
And not one single minister in Daniel Andrews'

3917
02:25:54,060 --> 02:25:58,020
government here in Victoria has taken responsibility for

3918
02:25:58,020 --> 02:26:00,280
this fiasco, whether that be the police minister,

3919
02:26:00,360 --> 02:26:03,700
Lisa Neville, the health minister, Jenny McCarcos, the

3920
02:26:03,700 --> 02:26:06,800
jobs minister, Martin Bakula, or indeed the premier,

3921
02:26:06,920 --> 02:26:07,740
Daniel Andrews.

3922
02:26:07,840 --> 02:26:11,020
I mean, there are allegations that security guards

3923
02:26:11,020 --> 02:26:12,640
were bonking those in quarantine.

3924
02:26:13,340 --> 02:26:15,040
I mean, this is just quite extraordinary.

3925
02:26:15,560 --> 02:26:19,280
What is the actual recommendation by the FDA

3926
02:26:19,280 --> 02:26:22,000
or the CDC to doctors?

3927
02:26:22,180 --> 02:26:24,800
What is it you are being told if

3928
02:26:24,800 --> 02:26:29,900
your patient tests positive, here is what we're

3929
02:26:29,900 --> 02:26:31,040
recommending you do?

3930
02:26:31,400 --> 02:26:35,020
Let's say literally nothing that I know of.

3931
02:26:35,200 --> 02:26:38,860
It is stay home in isolation for two

3932
02:26:38,860 --> 02:26:41,840
weeks and then potentially either get retested again

3933
02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:43,600
or even that is money.

3934
02:26:44,240 --> 02:26:46,240
And I think one of the biggest points

3935
02:26:46,240 --> 02:26:50,100
throughout this is people have become so fear

3936
02:26:50,100 --> 02:26:54,400
-based because of the fear-mongering mainstream media

3937
02:26:54,400 --> 02:26:57,940
that most people are living in their amygdala,

3938
02:26:58,120 --> 02:27:01,160
this reptilian, fear-based part of our brain.

3939
02:27:01,960 --> 02:27:04,920
And when you do that, critical thinking is

3940
02:27:04,920 --> 02:27:05,640
out the window.

3941
02:27:06,160 --> 02:27:08,900
So people are not, they've lost critical thinking.

3942
02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:13,820
They're reacting with this immediate response from programming.

3943
02:27:14,220 --> 02:27:16,500
So for me, it's look at medicine.

3944
02:27:16,660 --> 02:27:17,900
It is not black and white.

3945
02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:20,120
It is called the art of medicine.

3946
02:27:20,360 --> 02:27:22,580
It's the practice of medicine because we look

3947
02:27:22,580 --> 02:27:24,780
at all kinds of things to come up

3948
02:27:24,780 --> 02:27:25,660
with a program.

3949
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:26,680
Richard, you with us?

3950
02:27:27,140 --> 02:27:30,240
That I have right now is that when

3951
02:27:30,240 --> 02:27:35,620
the coronavirus took over, President Trump and all

3952
02:27:35,620 --> 02:27:38,160
his cronies in that White House knew about

3953
02:27:38,160 --> 02:27:39,880
it and took their money out of the

3954
02:27:39,880 --> 02:27:43,260
stock market and nobody is doing anything about

3955
02:27:43,260 --> 02:27:43,480
it.

3956
02:27:43,860 --> 02:27:46,140
And now that the stock market is back

3957
02:27:46,140 --> 02:27:47,760
up, they put their money back in and

3958
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:49,520
nobody has caught that yet.

3959
02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:53,780
And the other thing is we need to

3960
02:27:53,780 --> 02:27:55,020
move this world ahead.

3961
02:27:55,440 --> 02:27:57,920
We've been here 50 million years, they say.

3962
02:27:58,340 --> 02:28:01,400
Well, I'm 56 tomorrow and I don't understand

3963
02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:04,020
why we're not in the Star Wars, like

3964
02:28:04,020 --> 02:28:04,780
Star Trek.

3965
02:28:05,000 --> 02:28:06,860
We can make movies about it, but we

3966
02:28:06,860 --> 02:28:07,720
can't be there.

3967
02:28:08,300 --> 02:28:09,740
Why are we not so far ahead?

3968
02:28:09,840 --> 02:28:12,140
Why are our brains not moving us forward?

3969
02:28:12,540 --> 02:28:14,700
Why is all this money going to all

3970
02:28:14,700 --> 02:28:18,480
these people that are way up high and

3971
02:28:18,480 --> 02:28:20,160
none of it is being put back into

3972
02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:20,960
our society?

3973
02:28:21,180 --> 02:28:22,600
Move us ahead.

3974
02:28:23,100 --> 02:28:24,200
Move us forward.

3975
02:28:24,840 --> 02:28:26,100
Get out of this debt.

3976
02:28:26,300 --> 02:28:27,600
Get out of the world.

3977
02:28:28,440 --> 02:28:29,380
Move us forward.

3978
02:28:29,520 --> 02:28:31,200
We should be a Star Trek era.

3979
02:28:31,400 --> 02:28:34,660
And I don't understand why 50 million people

3980
02:28:34,660 --> 02:28:37,160
for 50 million years can't move us forward.

3981
02:28:37,640 --> 02:28:38,420
Richard, thanks for the call.

3982
02:28:39,080 --> 02:28:40,980
I'm all for that ticket, though.

3983
02:28:41,940 --> 02:28:44,800
Tonight, the new warning from the Postal Service.

3984
02:28:44,800 --> 02:28:46,800
Your ballot might not get counted.

3985
02:28:47,720 --> 02:28:50,380
President Trump threatens to hold up funding as

3986
02:28:50,380 --> 02:28:52,760
the Post Office tells states it can't handle

3987
02:28:52,760 --> 02:28:54,700
millions of mail-in votes this November.

3988
02:28:55,260 --> 02:28:57,540
Will your ballot be delivered in time?

3989
02:28:58,620 --> 02:28:59,680
Stark projection.

3990
02:29:00,080 --> 02:29:02,340
The CDC says as many as 200,000

3991
02:29:02,340 --> 02:29:04,980
people could be killed by the coronavirus before

3992
02:29:04,980 --> 02:29:05,700
Labor Day.

3993
02:29:06,160 --> 02:29:08,520
The White House Task Force warns one state

3994
02:29:08,520 --> 02:29:11,060
the virus is widespread and expanding.

3995
02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:13,700
And as Texas closes in on 10,000

3996
02:29:13,700 --> 02:29:16,640
deaths, high schools in another hot spot vote

3997
02:29:16,640 --> 02:29:18,260
to play football this fall.

3998
02:29:19,480 --> 02:29:20,080
Unmasked.

3999
02:29:20,380 --> 02:29:22,780
Couldn't the mask you're wearing be worse than

4000
02:29:22,780 --> 02:29:23,680
no mask at all?

4001
02:29:24,120 --> 02:29:26,460
The new research and the government guidance on

4002
02:29:26,460 --> 02:29:28,980
which face coverings work and which ones don't.

4003
02:29:30,100 --> 02:29:31,140
Conspiracy theory.

4004
02:29:31,740 --> 02:29:34,160
President Trump questions if Joe Biden's new running

4005
02:29:34,160 --> 02:29:36,000
mate is eligible to be on the ticket.

4006
02:29:36,260 --> 02:29:36,820
She is.

4007
02:29:37,100 --> 02:29:39,300
Why some are calling the false attack on

4008
02:29:39,300 --> 02:29:41,000
Senator Kamala Harris racist.

4009
02:29:41,840 --> 02:29:44,260
The first interview from one of the officers

4010
02:29:44,260 --> 02:29:45,680
in the George Floyd case.

4011
02:29:45,960 --> 02:29:48,540
What he told investigators about that neon neck

4012
02:29:48,540 --> 02:29:51,100
maneuver and his first reaction when he learned

4013
02:29:51,100 --> 02:29:52,200
Floyd was dead.

4014
02:29:53,380 --> 02:29:54,560
Out of control blaze.

4015
02:29:54,820 --> 02:29:58,000
A second major wildfire torches Southern California.

4016
02:29:58,580 --> 02:30:01,120
Will this weekend's weather make the situation even

4017
02:30:01,120 --> 02:30:02,060
more dangerous?

4018
02:30:03,360 --> 02:30:04,300
Too close for comfort.

4019
02:30:04,620 --> 02:30:07,780
The shocking video as a wild bison violently

4020
02:30:07,780 --> 02:30:09,000
attacks a tourist.

4021
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:12,220
Why experts say the animal isn't to blame.

4022
02:30:13,400 --> 02:30:15,700
And on the road or at least the

4023
02:30:15,700 --> 02:30:16,240
side of it.

4024
02:30:16,720 --> 02:30:19,300
CBS's Steve Hartman with the World War II

4025
02:30:19,300 --> 02:30:21,680
vet on a cross country mission for the

4026
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:22,600
second time.

4027
02:30:25,480 --> 02:30:28,480
This is the CBS Evening News with Norah

4028
02:30:28,480 --> 02:30:29,060
O'Donnell.

4029
02:30:29,500 --> 02:30:31,300
Reporting from the nation's capital.

4030
02:30:32,080 --> 02:30:34,080
Good evening and thank you for joining us.

4031
02:30:34,280 --> 02:30:34,980
Norah is off.

4032
02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:36,120
I'm Margaret Brennan.

4033
02:30:36,120 --> 02:30:40,500
Today, California topped 600,000 confirmed cases.

4034
02:30:40,880 --> 02:30:42,940
The most of any state since the pandemic

4035
02:30:42,940 --> 02:30:43,500
began.

4036
02:30:43,940 --> 02:30:47,200
As positivity rates remain above the recommended levels

4037
02:30:47,200 --> 02:30:49,360
for reopening across much of the country.

4038
02:30:49,700 --> 02:30:53,480
Dr. Fauci again warned against reopening too quickly.

4039
02:30:54,120 --> 02:30:58,860
In your understandable zeal to quickly get back

4040
02:30:58,860 --> 02:31:01,300
to normal and revive the economy.

4041
02:31:01,860 --> 02:31:03,920
You can do it if you do it

4042
02:31:03,920 --> 02:31:05,840
in a measured prudent way.

4043
02:31:06,120 --> 02:31:09,020
To think that you can ignore the biologic.

4044
02:31:09,620 --> 02:31:11,040
It's just not going to happen.

4045
02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:13,880
Looking ahead to a possible vaccine.

4046
02:31:14,060 --> 02:31:16,720
The CDC has reportedly reached out to four

4047
02:31:16,720 --> 02:31:19,040
states, including Florida, as well as the city

4048
02:31:19,040 --> 02:31:19,680
of Philadelphia.

4049
02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:22,360
To begin drafting plans on how they would

4050
02:31:22,360 --> 02:31:25,680
store and distribute a vaccine, including who gets

4051
02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:26,360
priority.

4052
02:31:26,980 --> 02:31:27,240
Margaret.

4053
02:31:27,520 --> 02:31:29,720
Well, as the battle against COVID-19 continues,

4054
02:31:29,720 --> 02:31:31,820
it's also time to get ready for flu

4055
02:31:31,820 --> 02:31:32,260
season.

4056
02:31:32,620 --> 02:31:34,480
And this year there are concerns about a

4057
02:31:34,480 --> 02:31:35,820
possible twindemic.

4058
02:31:35,820 --> 02:31:39,020
They're calling it a potential twindemic, the coronavirus

4059
02:31:39,020 --> 02:31:41,920
pandemic still going strong at the same time

4060
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:43,440
flu season is approaching.

4061
02:31:43,720 --> 02:31:45,400
A new term you could be hearing more

4062
02:31:45,400 --> 02:31:47,000
this fall, twindemic.

4063
02:31:47,200 --> 02:31:48,960
And she says the earlier we get our

4064
02:31:48,960 --> 02:31:51,520
flu shots, the less likely we'll end up

4065
02:31:51,520 --> 02:31:52,500
in a twindemic.

4066
02:31:52,720 --> 02:31:55,080
The earlier you get that shot, the sooner

4067
02:31:55,080 --> 02:31:55,980
you have immunity.

4068
02:31:56,300 --> 02:31:58,800
This year with the COVID-19 pandemic expected

4069
02:31:58,800 --> 02:32:01,220
to coincide with flu season, doctors say the

4070
02:32:01,220 --> 02:32:04,740
concern over a possible twindemic underscores the need

4071
02:32:04,740 --> 02:32:06,520
for people to get the flu vaccine.

4072
02:32:06,760 --> 02:32:08,560
Do you know the term twindemic?

4073
02:32:08,880 --> 02:32:11,180
It's what they're calling a twindemic.

4074
02:32:11,520 --> 02:32:14,220
So Tom, a twindemic is exactly how it

4075
02:32:14,220 --> 02:32:14,540
sounds.

4076
02:32:14,860 --> 02:32:15,820
I want to ask you more, but is

4077
02:32:15,820 --> 02:32:16,920
twindemic a new word?

4078
02:32:17,000 --> 02:32:18,420
Did we just make this up or have

4079
02:32:18,420 --> 02:32:20,900
we experienced or used the term twindemic in

4080
02:32:20,900 --> 02:32:21,400
the past?

4081
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:23,060
As far as I know, I think it's

4082
02:32:23,060 --> 02:32:23,540
made up.

4083
02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:25,560
So it's specially coined for what we're going

4084
02:32:25,560 --> 02:32:28,460
through, but it's coined, I think, based on

4085
02:32:28,460 --> 02:32:30,880
the Latin for where the pandemic comes from.

4086
02:32:30,880 --> 02:32:34,800
So the flu shot will be required for

4087
02:32:34,800 --> 02:32:36,900
all students in Massachusetts.

4088
02:32:36,900 --> 02:32:40,160
The Department of Public Health just announcing this,

4089
02:32:40,540 --> 02:32:43,040
that all children from the age of six

4090
02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:46,560
months to those enrolled in college must receive

4091
02:32:46,560 --> 02:32:50,100
an influenza vaccine by December 31st in order

4092
02:32:50,100 --> 02:32:52,200
to attend school in January.

4093
02:32:52,720 --> 02:32:56,160
Exemptions apply to students with medical or religious

4094
02:32:56,160 --> 02:32:59,220
reasons and those who are homeschooled and higher

4095
02:32:59,220 --> 02:33:02,080
education students who are completely off campus.

4096
02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:05,280
State health officials say this new requirement is

4097
02:33:05,280 --> 02:33:08,240
an important step to reduce flu-related illnesses

4098
02:33:08,240 --> 02:33:11,460
and the overall impact of respiratory illness during

4099
02:33:11,460 --> 02:33:13,120
the COVID-19 pandemic.

4100
02:33:13,520 --> 02:33:17,320
There will be strong, you know, I suspect

4101
02:33:17,320 --> 02:33:19,860
the majority of Australians will get vaccinated and

4102
02:33:19,860 --> 02:33:23,220
there will be a strong public view that

4103
02:33:23,220 --> 02:33:27,240
those who choose not to get vaccinated need

4104
02:33:27,240 --> 02:33:31,820
to, there needs to be some sort of

4105
02:33:31,820 --> 02:33:36,640
incentive stick, perhaps, through the current programs, including

4106
02:33:36,640 --> 02:33:40,520
No Jab, No Pay, to make that happen.

4107
02:33:40,660 --> 02:33:43,260
So I think that is a very reasonable

4108
02:33:43,260 --> 02:33:46,180
interpretation of what the PM had to say

4109
02:33:46,180 --> 02:33:47,060
today.

4110
02:33:48,040 --> 02:33:51,040
Again, looking at specific things like not being

4111
02:33:51,040 --> 02:33:53,560
able to go into restaurants, not being able

4112
02:33:53,560 --> 02:33:54,560
to travel internationally.

4113
02:33:54,560 --> 02:33:57,840
Police are preparing to launch their aerial arsenal

4114
02:33:57,840 --> 02:34:00,260
as part of a crackdown on COVID rule

4115
02:34:00,260 --> 02:34:00,860
breakers.

4116
02:34:01,240 --> 02:34:03,540
High powered drones will be used to find

4117
02:34:03,540 --> 02:34:06,860
people not wearing masks and cars too far

4118
02:34:06,860 --> 02:34:07,480
from home.

4119
02:34:09,140 --> 02:34:12,240
Over the next week, Victoria Police will dispatch

4120
02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:12,880
drones.

4121
02:34:13,180 --> 02:34:14,920
They'll be keeping a watch on St Kilda

4122
02:34:14,920 --> 02:34:18,720
and Port Melbourne Beach, making sure skate parks

4123
02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:22,480
and playgrounds remain empty and for those who

4124
02:34:22,480 --> 02:34:25,140
head to the park, a mask is a

4125
02:34:25,140 --> 02:34:27,740
must or at least a face covering.

4126
02:34:27,900 --> 02:34:30,440
Police have also been using drones to guard

4127
02:34:30,440 --> 02:34:31,840
the New South Wales border.

4128
02:34:32,100 --> 02:34:35,340
There's no escaping this high powered aerial arsenal.

4129
02:34:35,920 --> 02:34:37,720
It can be flown for seven kilometres.

4130
02:34:38,020 --> 02:34:41,220
The camera is infrared and it's so clear.

4131
02:34:41,420 --> 02:34:43,720
It can read a vehicle's number plate from

4132
02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:45,320
500 metres away.

4133
02:34:45,740 --> 02:34:46,440
It doesn't really bother me.

4134
02:34:46,460 --> 02:34:47,300
I'm doing the right thing.

4135
02:34:47,400 --> 02:34:48,540
So I've got nothing to hide.

4136
02:34:48,540 --> 02:34:53,040
And while this virus touches us all, we

4137
02:34:53,040 --> 02:34:55,500
got to be honest, it is not an

4138
02:34:55,500 --> 02:34:57,320
equal opportunity offender.

4139
02:34:57,860 --> 02:35:01,620
Black, Latino and indigenous people are suffering and

4140
02:35:01,620 --> 02:35:02,860
dying disproportionately.

4141
02:35:03,520 --> 02:35:04,840
And this is not a coincidence.

4142
02:35:05,660 --> 02:35:08,240
It is the effect of structural racism.

4143
02:35:08,620 --> 02:35:10,400
How much damage has been done by the

4144
02:35:10,400 --> 02:35:12,560
kind of conspiracy theories that have grown up

4145
02:35:12,560 --> 02:35:14,520
particularly on social media, even frankly about you

4146
02:35:14,520 --> 02:35:16,440
personally, you know, you caused the pandemic.

4147
02:35:16,440 --> 02:35:18,480
I mean, it's very ad hominem now.

4148
02:35:19,140 --> 02:35:21,600
Is that sort of, you know, something you

4149
02:35:21,600 --> 02:35:22,340
could brush aside?

4150
02:35:22,500 --> 02:35:24,440
Do you think there's real damage done by

4151
02:35:24,440 --> 02:35:26,380
that kind of conspiracy theory?

4152
02:35:26,820 --> 02:35:29,020
You know, it's hard for me because I'm

4153
02:35:29,020 --> 02:35:32,640
so, you know, science oriented to even, you

4154
02:35:32,640 --> 02:35:33,960
know, go, oh, come on.

4155
02:35:34,300 --> 02:35:35,020
Not really.

4156
02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:36,480
People don't really believe that.

4157
02:35:36,920 --> 02:35:39,540
You know, those things are completely untrue.

4158
02:35:40,260 --> 02:35:43,120
And to the degree they cause people not

4159
02:35:43,120 --> 02:35:46,120
to wear masks or seek out the vaccine,

4160
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:48,380
you know, or to think this is all

4161
02:35:48,380 --> 02:35:51,020
some big conspiracy, that's unfortunate.

4162
02:35:51,900 --> 02:35:55,140
And, you know, countries where the leaders have

4163
02:35:55,140 --> 02:35:57,940
been more clear, you know, have had more

4164
02:35:57,940 --> 02:36:02,060
compliance on the masks and social distancing.

4165
02:36:02,060 --> 02:36:04,140
So that's been a benefit to them.

4166
02:36:04,420 --> 02:36:06,000
I think it'll die down.

4167
02:36:06,120 --> 02:36:08,640
I mean, a pandemic is a time when

4168
02:36:09,240 --> 02:36:13,720
it's not totally surprising that people's concern and,

4169
02:36:13,720 --> 02:36:17,940
you know, reaching for oversimplistic explanations gets a

4170
02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:18,700
little bit higher.

4171
02:36:19,520 --> 02:36:20,800
And, you know, weirdly it's come at the

4172
02:36:20,800 --> 02:36:23,400
time of an election in the US that's

4173
02:36:23,400 --> 02:36:24,200
fairly polarized.

4174
02:36:24,480 --> 02:36:26,040
So a lot of things, there seems to

4175
02:36:26,040 --> 02:36:29,560
be some confluence between social media, election and

4176
02:36:29,560 --> 02:36:33,340
pandemic that have this at a level that,

4177
02:36:33,460 --> 02:36:36,340
you know, I certainly never expected to be

4178
02:36:36,340 --> 02:36:38,640
mentioned in any of those things.

4179
02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:41,040
Because, you know, we were pretty obscure doing

4180
02:36:41,040 --> 02:36:43,360
our work on infectious disease, which is mostly

4181
02:36:43,360 --> 02:36:44,380
in poor countries.

4182
02:36:44,900 --> 02:36:48,500
And this has gotten infectious diseases and, you

4183
02:36:48,500 --> 02:36:50,860
know, crazy ideas about them into the rich

4184
02:36:50,860 --> 02:36:53,800
countries in a way that you never would

4185
02:36:53,800 --> 02:36:54,420
have predicted.

4186
02:36:54,580 --> 02:36:56,200
You know, the values of the foundation are

4187
02:36:56,200 --> 02:36:57,280
about saving lives.

4188
02:36:57,400 --> 02:37:00,700
We have a great track record of achieving

4189
02:37:00,700 --> 02:37:02,800
that, you know, so I'm not somebody who,

4190
02:37:02,840 --> 02:37:05,580
you know, can complain because I've had, you

4191
02:37:05,580 --> 02:37:07,160
know, this amazing life and get to do

4192
02:37:07,160 --> 02:37:09,100
this amazing work.

4193
02:37:09,500 --> 02:37:11,200
Now let's turn to the US because it's

4194
02:37:11,200 --> 02:37:12,760
the country, you know, it's the world's biggest

4195
02:37:12,760 --> 02:37:13,280
economy.

4196
02:37:13,560 --> 02:37:16,400
It's the preeminent public health country in the

4197
02:37:16,400 --> 02:37:16,620
world.

4198
02:37:16,660 --> 02:37:18,540
It's got the world's best epidemiologists.

4199
02:37:18,940 --> 02:37:20,400
Why is it done so badly?

4200
02:37:20,920 --> 02:37:23,920
Well, we believe in freedom, individual freedom.

4201
02:37:24,140 --> 02:37:25,960
We optimize for individual rights.

4202
02:37:27,100 --> 02:37:28,980
You know, there's some bad luck in this

4203
02:37:28,980 --> 02:37:37,860
that the CDC's initial test was slow, complicated,

4204
02:37:38,060 --> 02:37:38,640
didn't work.

4205
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:41,080
They didn't let the commercial labs come in.

4206
02:37:41,080 --> 02:37:44,160
We messed up getting that commercial lab capacity

4207
02:37:44,160 --> 02:37:44,540
going.

4208
02:37:45,060 --> 02:37:48,600
We never created a CDC website that would

4209
02:37:48,600 --> 02:37:52,460
prioritize who was tested so that both we

4210
02:37:52,460 --> 02:37:55,620
didn't overload the system to avoid taking more

4211
02:37:55,620 --> 02:37:57,240
than 24 hours to give you results.

4212
02:37:57,400 --> 02:37:59,720
And we were making sure low-income communities

4213
02:37:59,720 --> 02:38:02,260
and people who really needed the tests were

4214
02:38:02,260 --> 02:38:04,940
getting them as opposed to wealthy people who

4215
02:38:04,940 --> 02:38:07,140
like to be tested on a regular basis

4216
02:38:07,140 --> 02:38:09,200
or force their delivery people or people who

4217
02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:10,520
work in their house to be tested every

4218
02:38:10,520 --> 02:38:10,780
week.

4219
02:38:11,080 --> 02:38:16,140
So we've had a very uncoordinated testing thing,

4220
02:38:16,160 --> 02:38:18,120
even though we have way more PCR machines

4221
02:38:18,120 --> 02:38:19,560
than any country.

4222
02:38:20,040 --> 02:38:22,620
We, and we performed at this point, although

4223
02:38:22,620 --> 02:38:24,720
that was slow to get going, we performed

4224
02:38:24,720 --> 02:38:28,180
a lot of tests, but the delayed results

4225
02:38:28,180 --> 02:38:31,000
and the fact that people's behavior, even if

4226
02:38:31,000 --> 02:38:35,600
they test positive, doesn't change their behavior as

4227
02:38:35,600 --> 02:38:37,400
much as other countries to take them out

4228
02:38:37,400 --> 02:38:41,140
of the infection pool, that's where, unfortunately, we

4229
02:38:41,140 --> 02:38:44,800
had a continued high level of infection through

4230
02:38:44,800 --> 02:38:45,320
the summer.

4231
02:38:45,600 --> 02:38:49,000
Governments have been using a range of Orwellian

4232
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:53,280
mind control tricks during the coronavirus crisis.

4233
02:38:53,560 --> 02:38:55,760
The slogans, the clapping, and the symbols have

4234
02:38:55,760 --> 02:38:58,820
been carefully used to enable the authorities to

4235
02:38:58,820 --> 02:39:00,180
take control of our thinking.

4236
02:39:00,800 --> 02:39:03,480
I'm grateful to Dr. Colin Barron, a former

4237
02:39:03,480 --> 02:39:06,880
NHS doctor and eminent hypnotherapist who's the author

4238
02:39:06,880 --> 02:39:09,620
of the book Practical Hypnotherapy, for pointing out

4239
02:39:09,620 --> 02:39:12,080
to me just how our minds have been

4240
02:39:12,080 --> 02:39:15,200
taken over and how we've been very successfully

4241
02:39:15,200 --> 02:39:19,620
and skillfully manipulated into believing the lies we've

4242
02:39:19,620 --> 02:39:20,200
been fed.

4243
02:39:21,240 --> 02:39:25,400
Elected governments, aided by specialist behavioral scientists, have

4244
02:39:25,400 --> 02:39:29,200
been brainwashing millions into accepting the coronavirus propaganda.

4245
02:39:29,620 --> 02:39:31,860
The rhythm and pattern used in these phrases

4246
02:39:31,860 --> 02:39:33,180
is not a coincidence.

4247
02:39:33,800 --> 02:39:36,220
There are usually three words in each phrase

4248
02:39:36,220 --> 02:39:38,640
and the phrases run in threes.

4249
02:39:38,780 --> 02:39:39,720
This isn't a coincidence.

4250
02:39:40,040 --> 02:39:41,220
It isn't happenchance.

4251
02:39:42,240 --> 02:39:45,200
Using phrases of three words presented in groups

4252
02:39:45,200 --> 02:39:47,480
of three is a technique known as the

4253
02:39:47,480 --> 02:39:49,920
rule of three in psychological conditioning.

4254
02:39:50,400 --> 02:39:52,540
That's the reason for the three phrases with

4255
02:39:52,540 --> 02:39:54,200
which we're all being bombarded.

4256
02:39:54,320 --> 02:39:56,200
We're being trained and taught at the same

4257
02:39:56,200 --> 02:39:56,560
time.

4258
02:39:56,800 --> 02:39:58,120
It's behavioral psychology.

4259
02:39:58,900 --> 02:40:01,300
Other hypnotherapists have pointed out that if we

4260
02:40:01,300 --> 02:40:04,480
repeat phrases often enough, then the words and

4261
02:40:04,480 --> 02:40:07,320
thoughts become implanted in our subconscious minds and

4262
02:40:07,320 --> 02:40:10,400
then become a belief which motivates our behavior.

4263
02:40:11,200 --> 02:40:15,000
And so governments repeat slogans which become beliefs.

4264
02:40:15,300 --> 02:40:17,760
It's called auto-suggestion along the lines of

4265
02:40:18,200 --> 02:40:20,740
every day in every way I'm getting better

4266
02:40:20,740 --> 02:40:21,300
and better.

4267
02:40:21,680 --> 02:40:24,980
George Orwell, who invented Newspeak, also understood the

4268
02:40:24,980 --> 02:40:27,260
importance of the triple three word phrase.

4269
02:40:27,820 --> 02:40:30,940
In 1984, his futuristic novel which was written

4270
02:40:30,940 --> 02:40:35,080
in 1948, Orwell invented the slogan war is

4271
02:40:35,080 --> 02:40:35,460
peace.

4272
02:40:35,580 --> 02:40:36,520
Freedom is slavery.

4273
02:40:36,960 --> 02:40:38,000
Ignorance is strength.

4274
02:40:39,160 --> 02:40:40,740
If you want a picture of the future,

4275
02:40:40,940 --> 02:40:44,420
wrote Orwell, imagine a boot stamping on a

4276
02:40:44,420 --> 02:40:46,020
human face forever.

4277
02:40:46,680 --> 02:40:49,240
We are taking a moment to recognize that

4278
02:40:49,240 --> 02:40:51,820
the throne speech we delivered eight months ago

4279
02:40:52,290 --> 02:40:56,280
had no mention of COVID-19, had no

4280
02:40:56,280 --> 02:40:59,240
conception of the reality we find ourselves in

4281
02:40:59,240 --> 02:40:59,840
right now.

4282
02:41:00,220 --> 02:41:02,760
We need to reset the approach of this

4283
02:41:02,760 --> 02:41:05,800
government for a recovery to build back better.

4284
02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:07,940
And those are big, important decisions.

4285
02:41:08,220 --> 02:41:10,360
And we need to present that to Parliament

4286
02:41:11,140 --> 02:41:13,480
and gain the confidence of Parliament to move

4287
02:41:13,480 --> 02:41:15,420
forward on this ambitious plan.

4288
02:41:15,680 --> 02:41:19,200
Somehow we've let politics overrule science.

4289
02:41:20,240 --> 02:41:22,040
It's an absurd situation.

4290
02:41:22,360 --> 02:41:24,780
People have compared this to 1984 and the

4291
02:41:24,780 --> 02:41:27,340
Ministry of Truth and so on that's limiting

4292
02:41:27,340 --> 02:41:29,520
what people can say on objective facts.

4293
02:41:30,220 --> 02:41:31,300
It's beyond belief.

4294
02:41:31,780 --> 02:41:32,780
Here's the thing.

4295
02:41:32,860 --> 02:41:34,620
I think they know that the treatment works.

4296
02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:38,200
I think that basically, they're afraid to even

4297
02:41:38,200 --> 02:41:40,360
let it be tried because letting it be

4298
02:41:40,360 --> 02:41:41,740
tried would show that it works.

4299
02:41:42,280 --> 02:41:45,320
So the message has to be shut at

4300
02:41:45,320 --> 02:41:47,720
all costs because anything will leak out.

4301
02:41:47,800 --> 02:41:49,080
And in fact, it is leaking out.

4302
02:41:49,700 --> 02:41:51,440
And you see across the country, people who

4303
02:41:51,440 --> 02:41:54,120
started to speak up, who become almost deathly

4304
02:41:54,120 --> 02:41:56,940
ill and have been turned around in three

4305
02:41:56,940 --> 02:41:58,760
days or sooner even.

4306
02:41:58,760 --> 02:42:00,900
And these are now public figures who are

4307
02:42:00,900 --> 02:42:03,480
speaking up, who've said that the medicine saved

4308
02:42:03,480 --> 02:42:03,940
their life.

4309
02:42:04,220 --> 02:42:07,880
And it's very difficult to close all the

4310
02:42:07,880 --> 02:42:11,260
leaks in that dike that are being suppressed

4311
02:42:11,260 --> 02:42:14,980
by the media that are trying to do

4312
02:42:14,980 --> 02:42:15,220
that.

4313
02:42:15,400 --> 02:42:17,940
We're seeing fights like this go viral.

4314
02:42:19,360 --> 02:42:22,400
Where businesses find themselves at times in verbal

4315
02:42:22,400 --> 02:42:24,880
or physical confrontations with customers.

4316
02:42:26,580 --> 02:42:30,300
Trying to enforce mask requirements under state or

4317
02:42:30,300 --> 02:42:31,180
county orders.

4318
02:42:31,340 --> 02:42:33,640
The horrifying videos, you know, they're horrifying.

4319
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:36,160
They're just, they're not fun.

4320
02:42:36,420 --> 02:42:39,740
Steve Reinhardt is CEO of Robotic Assistance Devices.

4321
02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:42,260
And he's trying to take the ugliness out

4322
02:42:42,260 --> 02:42:45,000
of these encounters by deploying a robot.

4323
02:42:45,440 --> 02:42:48,520
We developed a face mask analytic so we

4324
02:42:48,520 --> 02:42:50,660
can either say, look for people with face

4325
02:42:50,660 --> 02:42:52,840
masks on, look for people without face masks

4326
02:42:52,840 --> 02:42:53,120
on.

4327
02:42:53,200 --> 02:42:56,000
They call the robot ROSA, which means Responsive

4328
02:42:56,000 --> 02:42:57,560
Observation Security Agent.

4329
02:42:57,560 --> 02:43:00,600
When ROSA recognizes a person about to enter

4330
02:43:00,600 --> 02:43:02,980
a business without a mask, you hear and

4331
02:43:02,980 --> 02:43:04,600
see the warning immediately.

4332
02:43:04,820 --> 02:43:07,560
It is a non-biased, non-confrontational approach

4333
02:43:07,560 --> 02:43:10,440
to reminding people to, you know, wear their

4334
02:43:10,440 --> 02:43:11,040
face masks.

4335
02:43:11,440 --> 02:43:14,380
The robot's creator acknowledges someone could choose to

4336
02:43:14,380 --> 02:43:15,300
ignore the messages.

4337
02:43:15,660 --> 02:43:19,320
But he says businesses are bracing for the

4338
02:43:19,320 --> 02:43:22,400
possibility they'll have to enforce COVID-19 safety

4339
02:43:22,400 --> 02:43:24,040
measures for years to come.

4340
02:43:24,160 --> 02:43:27,340
And they hope to avoid scenes like this.

4341
02:43:27,560 --> 02:43:29,080
You have a machine tell you to do

4342
02:43:29,080 --> 02:43:29,440
something.

4343
02:43:29,680 --> 02:43:31,580
It blows my mind that the level of

4344
02:43:31,580 --> 02:43:33,880
compliance is just skyrocketing.

4345
02:43:33,980 --> 02:43:36,780
There's a lot of bad information about therapeutics

4346
02:43:36,780 --> 02:43:37,540
out there.

4347
02:43:38,120 --> 02:43:41,420
Debunk some of the myths for us, hydroxychloroquine

4348
02:43:41,420 --> 02:43:42,640
being one of them.

4349
02:43:43,740 --> 02:43:46,960
Well, it's, you know, we, this is an

4350
02:43:46,960 --> 02:43:50,400
age of science, but, you know, sometimes it

4351
02:43:50,400 --> 02:43:52,660
doesn't feel that way.

4352
02:43:53,640 --> 02:43:57,420
You know, just the idea it's about testing

4353
02:43:57,420 --> 02:44:04,600
and hydroxychloroquine, you know, the numbers are quite

4354
02:44:04,600 --> 02:44:05,080
clear.

4355
02:44:05,460 --> 02:44:07,440
It got confused because the trials were done

4356
02:44:07,440 --> 02:44:11,000
so poorly, but there's lots of good things

4357
02:44:11,000 --> 02:44:13,440
coming in the therapeutic area that are, you

4358
02:44:13,440 --> 02:44:16,520
know, really proven to work without the severe

4359
02:44:16,520 --> 02:44:17,300
side effects.

4360
02:44:17,660 --> 02:44:21,460
So, you know, a little bit slow, but

4361
02:44:21,460 --> 02:44:24,300
a lot of good news to come in

4362
02:44:24,300 --> 02:44:25,400
that domain.

4363
02:44:25,840 --> 02:44:27,600
And if we don't solve the climate problem,

4364
02:44:27,700 --> 02:44:29,740
do you believe there will be more pandemics,

4365
02:44:30,280 --> 02:44:31,340
worse pandemics in the future?

4366
02:44:31,340 --> 02:44:32,500
Well, that's not the only thing.

4367
02:44:32,660 --> 02:44:36,980
You'll have incredible instability because your ability to

4368
02:44:36,980 --> 02:44:40,260
grow food in large parts of the world

4369
02:44:40,260 --> 02:44:45,120
will be so diminished that you literally have

4370
02:44:45,120 --> 02:44:50,080
hundreds of millions of migrants and you won't

4371
02:44:50,080 --> 02:44:53,860
have a thriving global economy because you will

4372
02:44:53,860 --> 02:44:55,740
have degraded the ecosystems.

4373
02:44:56,740 --> 02:44:59,800
And there is no quick fix to that

4374
02:44:59,800 --> 02:45:03,100
thing, unlike the magic vaccine that's a mere,

4375
02:45:03,760 --> 02:45:07,200
you know, year to two years at most

4376
02:45:07,200 --> 02:45:08,560
to come up with.

4377
02:45:08,640 --> 02:45:11,760
To all the people of Wuhan, you know,

4378
02:45:11,820 --> 02:45:14,940
you made a great sacrifice to be in

4379
02:45:14,940 --> 02:45:16,660
this very strict quarantine.

4380
02:45:17,020 --> 02:45:20,140
And, you know, I'm very glad that it

4381
02:45:20,140 --> 02:45:24,940
succeeded, but I'm sure that the difficulties were

4382
02:45:24,940 --> 02:45:25,780
very great.

4383
02:45:26,140 --> 02:45:29,820
And so we're thankful that you made these

4384
02:45:29,820 --> 02:45:30,560
sacrifices.

4385
02:45:31,940 --> 02:45:35,380
You know, being at ground zero of infectious

4386
02:45:35,380 --> 02:45:37,820
disease is a incredible challenge.

4387
02:45:38,040 --> 02:45:42,400
And, you know, you made changes, you know,

4388
02:45:42,440 --> 02:45:45,080
work was stopped, your living was very different.

4389
02:45:45,540 --> 02:45:48,440
And now the goal that all of that

4390
02:45:48,440 --> 02:45:50,540
had, which is getting the cases down to

4391
02:45:50,540 --> 02:45:53,820
very small numbers and still being super open

4392
02:45:53,820 --> 02:45:55,640
about, okay, where are those cases?

4393
02:45:57,020 --> 02:46:00,760
That critical thing is something that people should

4394
02:46:00,760 --> 02:46:01,500
feel good about.

4395
02:46:01,800 --> 02:46:03,720
And, you know, I'm hope that we can

4396
02:46:03,720 --> 02:46:07,240
get things even more back to normal in

4397
02:46:07,240 --> 02:46:09,160
the months ahead is, you know, we use

4398
02:46:09,160 --> 02:46:11,760
testing data to see where do we still

4399
02:46:11,760 --> 02:46:14,160
need to restrict things and where can we

4400
02:46:14,160 --> 02:46:16,200
go partially back to normal.

4401
02:46:16,360 --> 02:46:18,400
So, you know, thank you for your sacrifices.

4402
02:46:19,200 --> 02:46:21,500
Tonight, the urgent new warning ahead of the

4403
02:46:21,500 --> 02:46:23,900
Labor Day weekend, the make or break holiday

4404
02:46:23,900 --> 02:46:25,020
as we head into fall.

4405
02:46:25,460 --> 02:46:28,420
Dr. Anthony Fauci pleading with people, stay away

4406
02:46:28,420 --> 02:46:30,400
from those big crowds that have led to

4407
02:46:30,400 --> 02:46:34,100
COVID surges, packed pool parties, bars, beaches, and

4408
02:46:34,100 --> 02:46:35,160
super spreader events.

4409
02:46:35,480 --> 02:46:37,720
The first death linked to that massive biker

4410
02:46:37,720 --> 02:46:40,320
rally in South Dakota and the CDC's new

4411
02:46:40,320 --> 02:46:41,620
timeline on a vaccine.

4412
02:46:41,820 --> 02:46:42,860
What they're telling states.

4413
02:46:43,540 --> 02:46:46,040
On the attack, Joe Biden blaming President Trump

4414
02:46:46,040 --> 02:46:48,740
for what he calls a national emergency as

4415
02:46:48,740 --> 02:46:50,140
schools struggle to reopen.

4416
02:46:50,420 --> 02:46:53,120
The president's pushback today and the new alert

4417
02:46:53,120 --> 02:46:55,580
about Russia targeting Joe Biden's campaign.

4418
02:46:55,780 --> 02:46:57,840
Did the Trump administration try to bury it?

4419
02:46:58,280 --> 02:47:01,560
Nancy Pelosi firing back after video of her

4420
02:47:01,560 --> 02:47:04,460
inside a salon shuttered by law because of

4421
02:47:04,460 --> 02:47:04,740
COVID.

4422
02:47:05,140 --> 02:47:07,300
The house speaker now calling it a setup.

4423
02:47:07,940 --> 02:47:10,040
The new developments as a rival of Vladimir

4424
02:47:10,040 --> 02:47:11,560
Putin fights for his life.

4425
02:47:11,940 --> 02:47:13,980
What officials now say was used to poison

4426
02:47:13,980 --> 02:47:14,240
him.

4427
02:47:14,240 --> 02:47:16,500
The cyber attack on one of the country's

4428
02:47:16,500 --> 02:47:17,820
largest school districts.

4429
02:47:18,200 --> 02:47:20,400
Remote learning down for a third day.

4430
02:47:20,520 --> 02:47:22,240
Whether your kids are at risk.

4431
02:47:22,680 --> 02:47:25,260
And the chili challenge that swept the nation.

4432
02:47:25,620 --> 02:47:28,280
How all that cold cash raised means a

4433
02:47:28,280 --> 02:47:30,880
major step forward in the fight against ALS.

4434
02:47:32,000 --> 02:47:35,580
This is NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt.

4435
02:47:36,320 --> 02:47:40,320
I take responsibility for trusting the word of

4436
02:47:40,320 --> 02:47:42,400
the neighborhood salon that I've been to over

4437
02:47:42,400 --> 02:47:44,240
the years many times.

4438
02:47:44,960 --> 02:47:47,680
And that when they said what we're able

4439
02:47:47,680 --> 02:47:51,540
to accommodate people one person at a time

4440
02:47:52,280 --> 02:47:54,320
and that we can set up that time,

4441
02:47:54,480 --> 02:47:55,420
I trusted that.

4442
02:47:55,680 --> 02:47:57,780
As it turns out, it was a setup.

4443
02:47:58,260 --> 02:48:01,300
So I take responsibility for falling for a

4444
02:48:01,300 --> 02:48:01,560
setup.

4445
02:48:01,880 --> 02:48:03,800
And that's all I'm going to say on

4446
02:48:03,800 --> 02:48:04,020
that.

4447
02:48:04,220 --> 02:48:07,220
We're being told this is the science.

4448
02:48:07,860 --> 02:48:08,740
But it's not.

4449
02:48:10,600 --> 02:48:12,320
It's an appeal to authority.

4450
02:48:12,320 --> 02:48:15,340
It's science because Tony Fauci and Bill Gates

4451
02:48:15,340 --> 02:48:16,820
tell us it's science.

4452
02:48:17,380 --> 02:48:19,160
We want to see the studies.

4453
02:48:19,700 --> 02:48:22,600
We want to see the studies on hydroxychloroquine.

4454
02:48:23,340 --> 02:48:25,700
We want to see the studies on whether

4455
02:48:25,700 --> 02:48:29,680
the lockdown is killing more people than the

4456
02:48:29,680 --> 02:48:30,120
coronavirus.

4457
02:48:31,060 --> 02:48:34,180
We want to see real science and real

4458
02:48:34,180 --> 02:48:35,080
risk assessments.

4459
02:48:36,040 --> 02:48:37,720
And we are not going to take the

4460
02:48:37,720 --> 02:48:40,000
word my father told me when I was

4461
02:48:40,000 --> 02:48:40,680
a child.

4462
02:48:41,640 --> 02:48:43,820
People in authority lie.

4463
02:48:45,360 --> 02:48:47,360
And we all, if we are going to

4464
02:48:47,360 --> 02:48:51,580
continue to live in a democracy, we need

4465
02:48:51,580 --> 02:48:54,560
to understand that people in authority lie.

4466
02:48:55,520 --> 02:48:59,000
People in authority will abuse every power that

4467
02:48:59,000 --> 02:49:00,280
we relinquish to them.

4468
02:49:01,000 --> 02:49:03,340
And right now, we are giving them the

4469
02:49:03,340 --> 02:49:06,700
power to micromanage every bit of our lives

4470
02:49:06,700 --> 02:49:08,780
24 hours a day.

4471
02:49:08,940 --> 02:49:10,160
They're going to know where we are.

4472
02:49:10,160 --> 02:49:11,840
They're going to know the money that we

4473
02:49:11,840 --> 02:49:12,340
spend.

4474
02:49:12,880 --> 02:49:14,940
They're going to have access to our children.

4475
02:49:15,080 --> 02:49:17,900
They're going to have the right to compel

4476
02:49:17,900 --> 02:49:21,840
unwanted medical interventions on us.

4477
02:49:22,500 --> 02:49:24,220
We, you know, the Nazis did that in

4478
02:49:24,220 --> 02:49:26,940
the camps in World War II.

4479
02:49:27,160 --> 02:49:29,680
They tested vaccines on gypsies and Jews.

4480
02:49:30,540 --> 02:49:33,300
And the world was so horrified after the

4481
02:49:33,300 --> 02:49:36,740
war we signed the Nuremberg Charter.

4482
02:49:37,680 --> 02:49:39,720
And we all pledge when we do that

4483
02:49:40,160 --> 02:49:45,720
we would never again impose unwanted medical interventions

4484
02:49:45,720 --> 02:49:49,300
on human beings without informed consent.

4485
02:49:50,140 --> 02:49:52,880
Do we have enough infrastructure to contact trace

4486
02:49:52,880 --> 02:49:53,860
the way that we need to?

4487
02:49:54,500 --> 02:49:57,120
I think that's why the criteria that you

4488
02:49:57,120 --> 02:49:59,900
can see the gates that the federal government

4489
02:49:59,900 --> 02:50:01,220
has recommended are.

4490
02:50:01,460 --> 02:50:03,780
Four weeks ago, Don Baker became the first

4491
02:50:03,780 --> 02:50:05,340
person in the U.S. to get a

4492
02:50:05,340 --> 02:50:07,360
shot as part of a phase three clinical

4493
02:50:07,360 --> 02:50:09,340
trial for a coronavirus vaccine.

4494
02:50:09,340 --> 02:50:11,300
And now she's back.

4495
02:50:11,740 --> 02:50:12,780
Not just for a visit.

4496
02:50:13,120 --> 02:50:14,980
All right, take a nice deep breath.

4497
02:50:15,720 --> 02:50:17,320
But for another shot.

4498
02:50:17,640 --> 02:50:18,240
That's right.

4499
02:50:18,420 --> 02:50:21,020
The coronavirus vaccine will likely be given in

4500
02:50:21,020 --> 02:50:22,760
two shots a few weeks apart.

4501
02:50:23,140 --> 02:50:24,940
It's like the boxer going into the ring.

4502
02:50:25,380 --> 02:50:28,260
You might hit the other guy with one

4503
02:50:28,260 --> 02:50:29,560
punch and he might go down.

4504
02:50:30,100 --> 02:50:32,320
But two punches is going to be way

4505
02:50:32,320 --> 02:50:32,920
more effective.

4506
02:50:33,420 --> 02:50:35,620
And that's a problem for several reasons.

4507
02:50:35,920 --> 02:50:38,360
Many Americans aren't very excited about the coronavirus

4508
02:50:38,360 --> 02:50:39,120
vaccine.

4509
02:50:39,120 --> 02:50:42,260
According to a recent CNN poll, 40%

4510
02:50:42,260 --> 02:50:44,260
of Americans say they won't get it.

4511
02:50:44,420 --> 02:50:46,540
Second, for those who do take it, it's

4512
02:50:46,540 --> 02:50:49,040
a logistical challenge to have hundreds of millions

4513
02:50:49,040 --> 02:50:52,080
of people come in not once, but twice.

4514
02:50:52,520 --> 02:50:54,740
There's no question that this is going to

4515
02:50:54,740 --> 02:50:58,960
be the most complicated, largest mass vaccination program

4516
02:50:58,960 --> 02:51:00,360
in human history.

4517
02:51:00,640 --> 02:51:02,360
People will have to remember to come in

4518
02:51:02,360 --> 02:51:03,160
the second time.

4519
02:51:03,480 --> 02:51:05,220
They might have to take time off work

4520
02:51:05,220 --> 02:51:08,940
twice and possibly experience unpleasant side effects like

4521
02:51:08,940 --> 02:51:10,140
fever twice.

4522
02:51:10,640 --> 02:51:13,240
Government health officials are aware that's a big

4523
02:51:13,240 --> 02:51:13,720
ask.

4524
02:51:14,060 --> 02:51:16,520
On the manufacturing end, it's just more complicated

4525
02:51:16,520 --> 02:51:19,580
to make 660 million doses of a vaccine

4526
02:51:19,580 --> 02:51:21,400
than 330 million.

4527
02:51:21,720 --> 02:51:23,940
And it's not just double the vaccine, it's

4528
02:51:23,940 --> 02:51:25,800
double all the components that go with the

4529
02:51:25,800 --> 02:51:26,320
vaccine.

4530
02:51:26,880 --> 02:51:29,540
Two vials with two caps and two stoppers,

4531
02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:32,760
two syringes with two needles for everybody.

4532
02:51:33,260 --> 02:51:35,860
Doing it twice is going to be daunting.

4533
02:51:36,100 --> 02:51:37,900
It is going to be absolutely daunting.

4534
02:51:37,900 --> 02:51:40,300
For Don Baker, rolling up her sleeve a

4535
02:51:40,300 --> 02:51:42,760
second time was about saving lives.

4536
02:51:42,920 --> 02:51:43,880
You guys are doing this.

4537
02:51:44,240 --> 02:51:46,040
Yeah, you can show me your search warrant

4538
02:51:46,040 --> 02:51:47,680
before you go through my house.

4539
02:51:47,780 --> 02:51:50,500
So you're the occupier?

4540
02:51:50,760 --> 02:51:52,340
Yeah, I own this house.

4541
02:51:54,620 --> 02:51:55,960
Search warrant for what?

4542
02:51:56,360 --> 02:51:58,160
Now what I will explain to you is

4543
02:51:58,160 --> 02:52:00,400
if you want to listen, you got your

4544
02:52:00,400 --> 02:52:00,980
phone going?

4545
02:52:01,360 --> 02:52:01,960
Yeah, I do, yeah.

4546
02:52:02,220 --> 02:52:04,860
Now you're under arrest in relation to incitement.

4547
02:52:05,660 --> 02:52:06,100
Incitement?

4548
02:52:06,880 --> 02:52:08,880
You're not obliged to say or do anything,

4549
02:52:09,000 --> 02:52:10,580
but anything you say or do may be

4550
02:52:10,580 --> 02:52:11,120
given in evidence.

4551
02:52:11,360 --> 02:52:12,680
Excuse me, incitement for what?

4552
02:52:12,720 --> 02:52:13,900
What on earth?

4553
02:52:14,420 --> 02:52:16,300
Excuse me, what on earth?

4554
02:52:16,340 --> 02:52:17,460
Just put your phone down.

4555
02:52:17,600 --> 02:52:18,960
Can you like record this?

4556
02:52:19,140 --> 02:52:21,140
In my pyjama, I had an ultrasound in

4557
02:52:21,140 --> 02:52:21,580
an hour.

4558
02:52:21,760 --> 02:52:22,940
Yeah, she's pregnant.

4559
02:52:23,420 --> 02:52:24,700
So I'll take it easy.

4560
02:52:25,060 --> 02:52:25,720
What's this about?

4561
02:52:26,020 --> 02:52:28,300
Do I have an ultrasound in an hour?

4562
02:52:28,440 --> 02:52:29,600
Let me finish and I'll explain.

4563
02:52:29,720 --> 02:52:31,780
It's in relation to a Facebook post in

4564
02:52:31,780 --> 02:52:34,720
relation to a lockdown protest you put on

4565
02:52:34,720 --> 02:52:35,420
for Saturday.

4566
02:52:35,420 --> 02:52:38,160
Yeah, and I wasn't breaking any laws by

4567
02:52:38,160 --> 02:52:38,540
doing that.

4568
02:52:38,540 --> 02:52:39,120
You are actually.

4569
02:52:39,260 --> 02:52:40,040
You are breaking laws.

4570
02:52:40,100 --> 02:52:41,840
That's why I'm arresting you in relation to

4571
02:52:41,840 --> 02:52:42,100
this post.

4572
02:52:42,100 --> 02:52:43,360
How can you arrest her?

4573
02:52:43,540 --> 02:52:44,840
In front of my two children.

4574
02:52:45,040 --> 02:52:46,280
Can't you just say to her take the

4575
02:52:46,280 --> 02:52:46,700
post down?

4576
02:52:46,880 --> 02:52:47,260
Like, come on.

4577
02:52:47,280 --> 02:52:48,600
I'm happy to delete the post.

4578
02:52:48,800 --> 02:52:49,780
Yeah, that's fine.

4579
02:52:49,840 --> 02:52:51,060
But my two kids are here.

4580
02:52:51,120 --> 02:52:52,660
I have an ultrasound in an hour.

4581
02:52:52,960 --> 02:52:54,960
Like, I'm happy to delete the post.

4582
02:52:55,260 --> 02:52:57,100
You also have the right to communicate with

4583
02:52:57,100 --> 02:52:59,400
or to communicate with a legal practitioner.

4584
02:52:59,680 --> 02:53:00,820
You understand those rights?

4585
02:53:01,460 --> 02:53:02,540
Yeah, this is ridiculous.

4586
02:53:02,640 --> 02:53:03,580
Yeah, this is a bit unfair.

4587
02:53:03,680 --> 02:53:04,260
Come on, mate.

4588
02:53:04,260 --> 02:53:06,320
What about she just doesn't do the event?

4589
02:53:06,500 --> 02:53:07,700
Like, it's not like she's done it.

4590
02:53:08,040 --> 02:53:08,900
Well, she made a post.

4591
02:53:08,920 --> 02:53:09,920
We've already committed the offence.

4592
02:53:10,120 --> 02:53:10,640
So I've nothing to add to it.

4593
02:53:10,640 --> 02:53:11,400
So that's an offence.

4594
02:53:11,580 --> 02:53:12,760
Now, search warrant.

4595
02:53:13,440 --> 02:53:16,460
You put titles us and we're required to

4596
02:53:16,460 --> 02:53:20,420
seize any computers, any mobile devices you have.

4597
02:53:20,440 --> 02:53:21,300
What's it ask?

4598
02:53:21,840 --> 02:53:23,200
You're not taking my phone.

4599
02:53:23,840 --> 02:53:24,860
I'm not taking any device.

4600
02:53:24,980 --> 02:53:25,820
That's my phone.

4601
02:53:26,240 --> 02:53:27,440
It's nothing to do with her.

4602
02:53:27,720 --> 02:53:30,300
COVID has taken this year just since the

4603
02:53:30,300 --> 02:53:34,640
outbreak has taken more than 100 years Look,

4604
02:53:34,880 --> 02:53:36,160
here's the lives.

4605
02:53:36,580 --> 02:53:39,100
It's just it's I mean, think about it.

4606
02:53:39,920 --> 02:53:42,400
More lives this year than any other year

4607
02:53:42,400 --> 02:53:44,400
for the past 100 years.

4608
02:53:45,020 --> 02:53:49,020
Data points from a very recent study published

4609
02:53:49,020 --> 02:53:52,500
by the Center for Disease Control in August

4610
02:53:52,500 --> 02:53:55,480
and mid-August that surveyed thousands of Americans

4611
02:53:56,060 --> 02:53:58,020
at the end of June and asked them

4612
02:53:58,020 --> 02:54:00,900
a variety of questions designed to gauge trends

4613
02:54:00,900 --> 02:54:04,260
and developments in physical and mental health.

4614
02:54:04,440 --> 02:54:07,040
And probably the most striking of the statistics

4615
02:54:07,700 --> 02:54:10,080
was the one that was produced by the

4616
02:54:10,080 --> 02:54:11,080
following question.

4617
02:54:11,380 --> 02:54:16,600
Quote, have you seriously considered suicide in the

4618
02:54:16,600 --> 02:54:18,300
past 30 days?

4619
02:54:18,360 --> 02:54:21,660
A question that was asked among people around

4620
02:54:21,660 --> 02:54:24,300
the United States from June 24th to June

4621
02:54:24,300 --> 02:54:25,520
30th of 2020.

4622
02:54:26,600 --> 02:54:30,100
Of people 18 to 24, people in the

4623
02:54:30,100 --> 02:54:35,040
18 to 24 age range, 25.5 percent

4624
02:54:35,040 --> 02:54:37,900
or essentially one out of every four Americans

4625
02:54:37,900 --> 02:54:41,920
in that age group said that yes, they

4626
02:54:41,920 --> 02:54:44,780
have seriously considered not fleetingly or as a

4627
02:54:44,780 --> 02:54:48,060
fantasy, but seriously considered suicide not in the

4628
02:54:48,060 --> 02:54:50,340
past year, but in the past 30 days.

4629
02:54:50,500 --> 02:54:50,820
All right.

4630
02:54:50,840 --> 02:54:53,260
We'll hear from Josephine in Livingston, New Jersey

4631
02:54:53,260 --> 02:54:54,300
on our Biden line.

4632
02:54:54,860 --> 02:54:55,520
Good morning.

4633
02:54:55,860 --> 02:54:56,100
Morning.

4634
02:54:56,520 --> 02:54:59,440
It is very, very sad that this country

4635
02:54:59,440 --> 02:55:01,880
has come to the point it's you against

4636
02:55:01,880 --> 02:55:03,860
me, just like the woman you heard from

4637
02:55:03,860 --> 02:55:04,540
California.

4638
02:55:05,240 --> 02:55:07,560
My God, do we really live in America?

4639
02:55:08,260 --> 02:55:10,120
This idolatry to Lucifer.

4640
02:55:10,500 --> 02:55:11,640
That's how I label Trump.

4641
02:55:11,740 --> 02:55:12,540
I have to say it.

4642
02:55:12,840 --> 02:55:16,000
This idolatry to Lucifer and even the white

4643
02:55:16,000 --> 02:55:21,040
evangelical church who proclaims themselves pro-life.

4644
02:55:21,740 --> 02:55:23,140
They're not pro-life.

4645
02:55:23,540 --> 02:55:24,440
They're pro-birth.

4646
02:55:24,920 --> 02:55:27,920
Now they're saying go die like this Dr.

4647
02:55:28,120 --> 02:55:32,000
Atlas that Trump has just hired, who believes

4648
02:55:32,000 --> 02:55:36,800
in this idea of herd mentality to get

4649
02:55:36,800 --> 02:55:38,140
to that herd mentality.

4650
02:55:38,560 --> 02:55:42,200
Two million people have to die.

4651
02:55:42,580 --> 02:55:45,160
Tony's next on our Trump line from Joppa,

4652
02:55:45,440 --> 02:55:45,680
Maryland.

4653
02:55:45,940 --> 02:55:46,320
Go ahead.

4654
02:55:46,760 --> 02:55:48,120
Coronavirus in Victoria.

4655
02:55:48,400 --> 02:55:51,820
That is 63 new cases since my update

4656
02:55:51,820 --> 02:55:52,300
yesterday.

4657
02:55:52,880 --> 02:55:55,300
I'm sad to have to report that there

4658
02:55:55,300 --> 02:55:58,300
have now been 666 Victorians who have lost

4659
02:55:58,300 --> 02:56:01,380
their life because of this global pandemic.

4660
02:56:01,860 --> 02:56:04,500
That's an increase of 5 since yesterday's update.

4661
02:56:05,560 --> 02:56:07,480
Two of these deaths occurred prior to yesterday.

4662
02:56:08,200 --> 02:56:11,760
These include one female in her 80s, three

4663
02:56:11,760 --> 02:56:15,640
females in their 90s, one female in her

4664
02:56:15,640 --> 02:56:19,080
100s and we send our sincere sympathies and

4665
02:56:19,080 --> 02:56:22,300
condolences to each of those five families.

4666
02:56:22,460 --> 02:56:24,000
This will be a very difficult time for

4667
02:56:24,000 --> 02:56:24,180
them.

4668
02:56:24,320 --> 02:56:26,080
Yeah, Tom and Sally, a big concern.

4669
02:56:26,200 --> 02:56:26,680
Good morning.

4670
02:56:26,680 --> 02:56:29,080
The university plans to make sure every student

4671
02:56:29,080 --> 02:56:31,580
that attends Saturday's game is free of COVID

4672
02:56:31,580 --> 02:56:32,220
-19.

4673
02:56:32,880 --> 02:56:35,920
They're doing this by making sure that those

4674
02:56:35,920 --> 02:56:38,140
who are attending as part of the big

4675
02:56:38,140 --> 02:56:41,180
ticket student game package take a COVID-19

4676
02:56:41,180 --> 02:56:42,420
test tomorrow.

4677
02:56:42,940 --> 02:56:44,640
The test is free but mandatory.

4678
02:56:44,840 --> 02:56:46,500
Only students who show proof of their negative

4679
02:56:46,500 --> 02:56:49,280
COVID-19 test results will be given a

4680
02:56:49,280 --> 02:56:50,580
ticket for Saturday's game.

4681
02:56:51,000 --> 02:56:54,500
But thousands of alumni will also be attending

4682
02:56:54,500 --> 02:56:57,680
an interim Austin Health Dr. Mark Escott worries

4683
02:56:57,680 --> 02:56:59,940
as many as 50 people could catch the

4684
02:56:59,940 --> 02:57:01,620
virus at Saturday's game.

4685
02:57:02,440 --> 02:57:05,580
Our gathering limit's 10 and having 25,000

4686
02:57:05,580 --> 02:57:09,320
people in one space is a concern.

4687
02:57:09,780 --> 02:57:12,380
Ultimately, people have to make a decision whether

4688
02:57:12,380 --> 02:57:13,580
or not they're going to go to the

4689
02:57:13,580 --> 02:57:13,880
game.

4690
02:57:14,420 --> 02:57:16,780
I will be watching on my TV.

4691
02:57:18,180 --> 02:57:20,880
Dr. Escott says he worries the most about

4692
02:57:20,880 --> 02:57:23,080
the increased risk of transmission in lines for

4693
02:57:23,080 --> 02:57:25,200
the bathroom and concession stands.

4694
02:57:25,200 --> 02:57:28,600
Now keep in mind, UT did eliminate tailgating

4695
02:57:28,600 --> 02:57:30,860
for this season and they also plan to

4696
02:57:30,860 --> 02:57:34,820
provide over 200 hand sanitizing kiosks as well

4697
02:57:34,820 --> 02:57:38,180
as enforcing masks for everyone who attends the

4698
02:57:38,180 --> 02:57:38,380
game.

4699
02:57:39,440 --> 02:57:42,280
The same tragic story that happened in Wuhan

4700
02:57:42,280 --> 02:57:44,840
six months ago is now occurring again in

4701
02:57:44,840 --> 02:57:47,720
the Xinjiang region as thousands of residents in

4702
02:57:47,720 --> 02:57:50,260
high-rise buildings shouted and screamed into the

4703
02:57:50,260 --> 02:57:51,300
night in despair.

4704
02:57:52,020 --> 02:57:55,300
Xinjiang's capital, Urumqi, has been under strict lockdown

4705
02:57:55,300 --> 02:57:58,260
for nearly 40 days after authorities announced a

4706
02:57:58,260 --> 02:58:01,360
resurgence of the CCP virus on July 16.

4707
02:58:01,820 --> 02:58:04,720
An Urumqi resident recorded the heartbreaking scene of

4708
02:58:04,720 --> 02:58:08,040
people living in surrounding buildings screaming together to

4709
02:58:08,040 --> 02:58:09,120
vent their frustration.

4710
02:58:09,580 --> 02:58:12,160
It is clearly audible that the videographer himself

4711
02:58:12,160 --> 02:58:13,480
was sobbing when filming.

4712
02:58:29,760 --> 02:58:33,320
An assistant commissioner has unleashed on anti-lockdown

4713
02:58:33,320 --> 02:58:33,980
protesters.

4714
02:58:33,980 --> 02:58:37,660
Luke Cornelius described his frustration at having to

4715
02:58:37,660 --> 02:58:40,540
prepare the force to face another round of

4716
02:58:40,540 --> 02:58:42,000
demonstrations this weekend.

4717
02:58:42,780 --> 02:58:44,160
To be honest, I feel a bit like

4718
02:58:44,160 --> 02:58:46,400
a dog returning to eat his own vomit.

4719
02:58:46,780 --> 02:58:48,740
I mean, it's just none of us would

4720
02:58:48,740 --> 02:58:51,340
want to do that and I'm sick of

4721
02:58:51,340 --> 02:58:51,480
it.

4722
02:58:51,760 --> 02:58:55,140
Please, please don't leave home to engage in

4723
02:58:55,140 --> 02:58:57,640
an activity which is going to spread the

4724
02:58:57,640 --> 02:59:00,040
deadly virus and keep us locked up in

4725
02:59:00,040 --> 02:59:01,560
home even longer.

4726
02:59:04,560 --> 02:59:07,700
Well, Al, from August 12th through September 5th,

4727
02:59:07,740 --> 02:59:10,760
just over 64,000 COVID tests were administered

4728
02:59:10,760 --> 02:59:11,660
to NFL players.

4729
02:59:11,800 --> 02:59:13,800
And in that time period, there were five

4730
02:59:13,800 --> 02:59:14,700
positive cases.

4731
02:59:14,980 --> 02:59:17,480
Now, along with testing, everyone from the front

4732
02:59:17,480 --> 02:59:19,500
office to the locker room is required to

4733
02:59:19,500 --> 02:59:22,400
wear a Conexon proximity chip from the time

4734
02:59:22,400 --> 02:59:24,480
they walk into the facility until they walk

4735
02:59:24,480 --> 02:59:24,940
out again.

4736
02:59:25,160 --> 02:59:26,460
They're also wearing them tonight.

4737
02:59:26,560 --> 02:59:27,480
They will in all games.

4738
02:59:27,640 --> 02:59:29,960
So if someone does test positive, the league

4739
02:59:29,960 --> 02:59:31,820
will know who they were near, at what

4740
02:59:31,820 --> 02:59:33,300
distance, and for how long.

4741
02:59:33,300 --> 02:59:35,900
So that is high-tech contact tracing now.

4742
02:59:36,520 --> 02:59:38,880
Michelle, it's amazing what's been done because it

4743
02:59:38,880 --> 02:59:40,780
was so daunting for so many players and

4744
02:59:40,780 --> 02:59:43,400
coaches when the protocols came out as the

4745
02:59:43,400 --> 02:59:44,580
pass is caught by...

4746
02:59:44,580 --> 02:59:45,940
Do you still trust the FDA?

4747
02:59:46,780 --> 02:59:49,420
I think in the FDA, there's a lot

4748
02:59:49,420 --> 02:59:50,200
of professionals.

4749
02:59:51,040 --> 02:59:53,660
Historically, just like the CDC was viewed as

4750
02:59:53,660 --> 02:59:56,860
the best in the world, the FDA had

4751
02:59:56,860 --> 02:59:59,800
that same reputation as a top-notch regulator.

4752
03:00:00,620 --> 03:00:04,840
But, you know, there's been some cracks with

4753
03:00:04,840 --> 03:00:06,580
some of the things they've said.

4754
03:00:07,620 --> 03:00:13,280
At the commissioner level, hopefully the staff isn't

4755
03:00:13,280 --> 03:00:14,600
pulled in that direction.

4756
03:00:15,460 --> 03:00:16,460
What about the CDC?

4757
03:00:16,720 --> 03:00:19,920
You made reference to the reputational damage that's

4758
03:00:19,920 --> 03:00:20,900
been done to the CDC.

4759
03:00:21,560 --> 03:00:23,840
Can you take what the CDC says to

4760
03:00:23,840 --> 03:00:24,660
the bank any longer?

4761
03:00:25,120 --> 03:00:28,860
Well, the CDC is largely being written out

4762
03:00:28,860 --> 03:00:31,240
of the picture because you have people at

4763
03:00:31,240 --> 03:00:35,500
the White House who aren't epidemiologists, you know,

4764
03:00:35,740 --> 03:00:37,540
saying what a great job they've done.

4765
03:00:37,900 --> 03:00:42,680
And so it's no longer a set of

4766
03:00:42,680 --> 03:00:43,380
experts.

4767
03:00:43,760 --> 03:00:46,720
The CDC actually did make some mistakes, the

4768
03:00:46,720 --> 03:00:48,580
way they thought about testing, the way they

4769
03:00:48,580 --> 03:00:52,000
hadn't figured out to bring the commercial providers

4770
03:00:52,000 --> 03:00:52,400
in.

4771
03:00:52,840 --> 03:00:54,680
Now, hundreds have gathered here in front of

4772
03:00:54,680 --> 03:00:57,180
the Washington County Administration building, calling for the

4773
03:00:57,180 --> 03:00:59,040
end of a mask mandate, saying they are

4774
03:00:59,040 --> 03:01:01,240
tired of not living their normal lives.

4775
03:01:01,980 --> 03:01:05,220
No more masks, no more masks.

4776
03:01:05,220 --> 03:01:07,080
Not on the backs of my kids, or

4777
03:01:07,080 --> 03:01:08,760
you're going to get more federal funding, that's

4778
03:01:08,760 --> 03:01:09,760
how I feel about that.

4779
03:01:10,780 --> 03:01:13,400
A passionate call for action Friday morning in

4780
03:01:13,400 --> 03:01:15,900
St. George, several police officers on standby, as

4781
03:01:15,900 --> 03:01:19,600
many locals called concerns about coronavirus spikes overblown.

4782
03:01:19,720 --> 03:01:22,680
The flu kills more than coronavirus.

4783
03:01:23,340 --> 03:01:25,500
Others calling the virus a hoax or stating

4784
03:01:25,500 --> 03:01:28,280
that asymptomatic carriers simply do not exist, and

4785
03:01:28,280 --> 03:01:30,400
they cannot be forced to wear masks anywhere

4786
03:01:30,400 --> 03:01:32,100
as citizens of the United States.

4787
03:01:32,320 --> 03:01:33,640
If we want to wear a mask, that's

4788
03:01:33,640 --> 03:01:33,940
fine.

4789
03:01:34,020 --> 03:01:35,440
We can take care of ourselves.

4790
03:01:35,840 --> 03:01:37,720
Some rally attendees say they shouldn't ever wear

4791
03:01:37,720 --> 03:01:39,700
masks if they have any medical issues or

4792
03:01:39,700 --> 03:01:41,640
mental health concerns, or if they feel they

4793
03:01:41,640 --> 03:01:42,780
simply can't breathe.

4794
03:01:42,880 --> 03:01:44,960
When George Floyd was saying, I can't breathe,

4795
03:01:45,040 --> 03:01:45,840
and then he died.

4796
03:01:46,200 --> 03:01:48,100
And now we're wearing a mask, and we

4797
03:01:48,100 --> 03:01:50,500
say, I can't breathe, but we're being forced

4798
03:01:50,500 --> 03:01:51,180
to wear it anyway.

4799
03:01:51,380 --> 03:01:53,200
But many say that they believe in all

4800
03:01:53,200 --> 03:01:55,320
cases, masks jeopardize kids' health.

4801
03:01:55,520 --> 03:01:57,180
Parents are demanding they have the right to

4802
03:01:57,180 --> 03:01:58,720
decide what to do with their children.

4803
03:01:58,920 --> 03:02:01,180
I'll tell you another reason I hate masks.

4804
03:02:01,400 --> 03:02:04,180
Most child molesters love them.

4805
03:02:04,340 --> 03:02:06,680
School administrators responding that they don't understand why

4806
03:02:06,680 --> 03:02:09,040
crowds are protesting them based on a mandate

4807
03:02:09,040 --> 03:02:09,960
given by the governor.

4808
03:02:10,180 --> 03:02:12,040
They blocked off the front entrance to the

4809
03:02:12,040 --> 03:02:13,800
school building, and we went out to ask

4810
03:02:13,800 --> 03:02:15,700
them to move, and they attempted to storm

4811
03:02:15,700 --> 03:02:16,300
the school building.

4812
03:02:16,460 --> 03:02:18,240
The school board is implementing the governor's recent

4813
03:02:18,240 --> 03:02:20,380
order that face shields alone are not enough.

4814
03:02:20,580 --> 03:02:21,880
And if a parent is adamant that their

4815
03:02:21,880 --> 03:02:23,760
child cannot wear a mask or a shield,

4816
03:02:24,040 --> 03:02:25,600
they must fill out a form, including a

4817
03:02:25,600 --> 03:02:27,880
doctor's note, so the district can review it.

4818
03:02:27,880 --> 03:02:30,400
In St. George, Katie Kralis, ABC 4 News.

4819
03:02:30,920 --> 03:02:33,900
And the tragedy is that this pandemic has

4820
03:02:33,900 --> 03:02:37,360
been predicted, and to some extent, it's been

4821
03:02:37,360 --> 03:02:40,960
caused by us, because we've disrespected the natural

4822
03:02:40,960 --> 03:02:41,320
world.

4823
03:02:41,440 --> 03:02:42,800
We've disrespected animals.

4824
03:02:43,060 --> 03:02:46,240
We've created environments which make it much easier

4825
03:02:46,240 --> 03:02:49,000
for a pathogen to jump from an animal

4826
03:02:49,000 --> 03:02:51,320
to a human, where it may cause a

4827
03:02:51,320 --> 03:02:54,360
new disease, a zoonotic disease, as it's called,

4828
03:02:54,680 --> 03:02:56,120
such as COVID-19.

4829
03:02:56,120 --> 03:03:01,260
Unfortunately, COVID-19 was incredibly contagious and has

4830
03:03:01,260 --> 03:03:03,880
raced around the world, causing so much havoc,

4831
03:03:04,260 --> 03:03:07,340
so much suffering, so much economic chaos.

4832
03:03:07,820 --> 03:03:10,460
At the same time, all the time, we

4833
03:03:10,460 --> 03:03:14,080
have been threatened by a much greater challenge,

4834
03:03:14,760 --> 03:03:16,340
and that is climate change.

4835
03:03:16,860 --> 03:03:20,440
And to a great extent, it's the same

4836
03:03:20,440 --> 03:03:23,340
disrespect of the natural world that has led

4837
03:03:23,340 --> 03:03:25,820
to this climate crisis.

4838
03:03:26,120 --> 03:03:30,540
Because this planet has finite natural resources, and

4839
03:03:30,540 --> 03:03:33,960
we've been plundering them in many places faster

4840
03:03:33,960 --> 03:03:36,360
than Mother Nature can restore them.

4841
03:03:36,740 --> 03:03:38,800
We're in the midst of the sixth great

4842
03:03:38,800 --> 03:03:39,400
extinction.

4843
03:03:40,260 --> 03:03:44,240
We depend on healthy ecosystems, and the healthy

4844
03:03:44,240 --> 03:03:46,860
ecosystem depends on the biodiversity.

4845
03:03:47,400 --> 03:03:49,520
We need to move into some of these

4846
03:03:49,520 --> 03:03:54,160
innovations of science, like solar, wind, and tide

4847
03:03:54,160 --> 03:03:55,300
energy.

4848
03:03:55,300 --> 03:04:00,040
Otherwise, for my grandchildren and theirs, the future

4849
03:04:00,040 --> 03:04:01,740
is more than grim.

4850
03:04:02,020 --> 03:04:02,960
It's very dark.

4851
03:04:03,080 --> 03:04:04,340
We mustn't let that happen.

4852
03:04:04,740 --> 03:04:06,420
We have a window of time which is

4853
03:04:06,420 --> 03:04:09,820
closing, and we need everybody who cares to

4854
03:04:09,820 --> 03:04:12,620
get together and find solutions now.

4855
03:04:13,060 --> 03:04:15,220
37,000 more people will be alive today,

4856
03:04:15,820 --> 03:04:18,120
and we're going to have another influx of

4857
03:04:18,120 --> 03:04:21,320
cases just between now and January.

4858
03:04:21,540 --> 03:04:23,000
It's expected that we're going to have somewhere

4859
03:04:23,000 --> 03:04:26,180
between, depending on which estimate you take, between

4860
03:04:26,180 --> 03:04:29,420
138,000 and 178,000 more deaths.

4861
03:04:30,340 --> 03:04:31,940
And if people just do what we're doing

4862
03:04:31,940 --> 03:04:33,820
here, and when you're at a social distance,

4863
03:04:33,880 --> 03:04:35,640
as I am, you can take a mask

4864
03:04:35,640 --> 03:04:37,300
off, but wear a mask.

4865
03:04:37,940 --> 03:04:41,120
They estimate that would save about close to

4866
03:04:41,120 --> 03:04:44,280
89,000, 90,000 people.

4867
03:04:44,720 --> 03:04:47,200
This newly amended order replaces the city's previous

4868
03:04:47,200 --> 03:04:49,240
provision that allowed people to take off their

4869
03:04:49,240 --> 03:04:51,780
masks while outside during the summer months.

4870
03:04:51,780 --> 03:04:54,380
Masks are part of the daily routine in

4871
03:04:54,380 --> 03:04:54,900
Cambridge.

4872
03:04:55,380 --> 03:04:57,400
99% of people around here wear them.

4873
03:04:57,520 --> 03:04:59,960
Wherever you look, it seems everyone is following

4874
03:04:59,960 --> 03:05:00,560
the rules.

4875
03:05:00,720 --> 03:05:02,480
It's rare you see someone who's not wearing

4876
03:05:02,480 --> 03:05:02,640
it.

4877
03:05:02,780 --> 03:05:04,600
Over the summer, the city allowed people to

4878
03:05:04,600 --> 03:05:07,000
remove face coverings if they could maintain six

4879
03:05:07,000 --> 03:05:09,440
feet of distance from others, but that will

4880
03:05:09,440 --> 03:05:10,980
change on October 2nd.

4881
03:05:11,540 --> 03:05:14,280
Masks will now be mandatory just about everywhere,

4882
03:05:14,780 --> 03:05:15,800
except your own home.

4883
03:05:16,020 --> 03:05:17,580
So starting next week, when you're crossing a

4884
03:05:17,580 --> 03:05:19,980
bridge from Boston into Cambridge, you're going to

4885
03:05:19,980 --> 03:05:20,660
need to mask up.

4886
03:05:21,220 --> 03:05:24,540
Whether you're riding a bike, on a basketball

4887
03:05:24,540 --> 03:05:27,340
court, or simply dancing on the sidewalk.

4888
03:05:27,960 --> 03:05:30,020
Even if you're in a wide open field

4889
03:05:30,020 --> 03:05:31,120
all by yourself.

4890
03:05:31,280 --> 03:05:33,100
The city says it's because of a slight

4891
03:05:33,100 --> 03:05:35,760
uptick in cases as students return to college.

4892
03:05:36,160 --> 03:05:38,520
The latest order will also require office workers

4893
03:05:38,520 --> 03:05:40,780
to wear masks at all times, unless they

4894
03:05:40,780 --> 03:05:41,300
are alone.

4895
03:05:41,440 --> 03:05:42,480
I think to have to wear a mask

4896
03:05:42,480 --> 03:05:45,240
24-7 outside is over the top.

4897
03:05:45,300 --> 03:05:46,580
Those who don't want to play by the

4898
03:05:46,580 --> 03:05:49,000
rules could face a $300 fine, but the

4899
03:05:49,000 --> 03:05:51,900
majority of people have no problem playing it

4900
03:05:51,900 --> 03:05:52,160
safe.

4901
03:05:52,180 --> 03:05:53,400
I'm pretty much used to it at this

4902
03:05:53,400 --> 03:05:53,660
point.

4903
03:05:53,760 --> 03:05:55,760
I've been doing that all summer, so no

4904
03:05:55,760 --> 03:05:56,460
different for me.

4905
03:05:56,860 --> 03:05:58,640
I think it's a really easy measure we

4906
03:05:58,640 --> 03:06:00,280
could take to protect the public.

4907
03:06:00,540 --> 03:06:03,680
I mean, it's such a simple thing.

4908
03:06:03,780 --> 03:06:05,160
The easiest thing we can do to protect

4909
03:06:05,160 --> 03:06:05,600
each other.

4910
03:06:06,140 --> 03:06:07,820
As far as enforcement goes, the city says

4911
03:06:07,820 --> 03:06:09,280
this is going to be more about education

4912
03:06:09,280 --> 03:06:11,420
and less about punishment.

4913
03:06:11,720 --> 03:06:14,740
The official United States death toll from COVID

4914
03:06:14,740 --> 03:06:17,660
-19 has passed 200,000.

4915
03:06:17,660 --> 03:06:20,240
By far the highest in the world.

4916
03:06:20,780 --> 03:06:23,700
As University of Washington researchers warn, the U

4917
03:06:23,700 --> 03:06:26,080
.S. is on track to double that death

4918
03:06:26,080 --> 03:06:27,520
toll by year's end.

4919
03:06:28,140 --> 03:06:30,520
In the past 24 hours alone, the U

4920
03:06:30,520 --> 03:06:33,220
.S. reported nearly 1,000 new deaths and

4921
03:06:33,220 --> 03:06:37,380
over 37,000 new cases, with Minnesota, Montana,

4922
03:06:37,760 --> 03:06:41,880
Utah, Wisconsin and Wyoming reporting record levels of

4923
03:06:41,880 --> 03:06:43,660
infections over the past week.

4924
03:06:44,060 --> 03:06:47,420
On Tuesday, the COVID-19 Memorial Project placed

4925
03:06:47,420 --> 03:06:51,500
20,000 flags across the National Mall, each

4926
03:06:51,500 --> 03:06:54,660
one symbolizing 10 U.S. residents who've died

4927
03:06:54,660 --> 03:06:57,040
of the disease since the first recorded U

4928
03:06:57,040 --> 03:06:58,260
.S. death in February.

4929
03:06:58,900 --> 03:07:01,660
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi spoke at a memorial

4930
03:07:01,660 --> 03:07:02,760
for the dead.

4931
03:07:03,740 --> 03:07:05,160
This was preventable.

4932
03:07:05,740 --> 03:07:08,020
Not all of it, but much of it.

4933
03:07:08,060 --> 03:07:10,780
Mr. Ford says that we know that the

4934
03:07:10,780 --> 03:07:12,540
second wave is going to be worse than

4935
03:07:12,540 --> 03:07:13,260
the first wave.

4936
03:07:13,320 --> 03:07:15,120
Could you tell me in what way it

4937
03:07:15,120 --> 03:07:15,680
will be worse?

4938
03:07:15,680 --> 03:07:18,460
So I think the potential is that it

4939
03:07:18,460 --> 03:07:19,140
can be worse.

4940
03:07:19,440 --> 03:07:21,520
Right now, we're on the upward slope of

4941
03:07:21,520 --> 03:07:22,420
the second wave.

4942
03:07:23,200 --> 03:07:24,580
I think the premier, what he's alluding to,

4943
03:07:24,660 --> 03:07:26,040
is the fact that do we know it's

4944
03:07:26,040 --> 03:07:29,680
the so-called undulating waves that we've seen

4945
03:07:29,680 --> 03:07:30,620
in some of the modules?

4946
03:07:30,920 --> 03:07:32,480
How big those are, we have to see.

4947
03:07:33,040 --> 03:07:34,820
We always see it better after we have

4948
03:07:34,820 --> 03:07:36,200
some time to look at the test results.

4949
03:07:36,540 --> 03:07:39,240
If it is that more tsunami-type wave,

4950
03:07:39,320 --> 03:07:40,740
it will be far worse than the first

4951
03:07:40,740 --> 03:07:42,520
wave as we've seen in other countries.

4952
03:07:43,120 --> 03:07:44,700
How big this wave is going to be,

4953
03:07:44,700 --> 03:07:47,060
because already we've seen some test results that

4954
03:07:47,060 --> 03:07:48,980
are equivalent to what our maximum daily amounts

4955
03:07:48,980 --> 03:07:49,900
were in the first wave.

4956
03:07:50,420 --> 03:07:52,000
But as I said before, in that time,

4957
03:07:52,360 --> 03:07:54,460
the maximum tests we're doing a day around

4958
03:07:54,460 --> 03:07:56,300
that highest peak was around about 10,000

4959
03:07:56,300 --> 03:07:56,620
tests.

4960
03:07:56,980 --> 03:07:58,900
We're doing 41,000 to 43,000 at

4961
03:07:58,900 --> 03:07:59,280
the moment.

4962
03:07:59,760 --> 03:08:02,000
So it's a different curve, different epidemic.

4963
03:08:02,560 --> 03:08:05,800
So right now, we're anticipating if it keeps

4964
03:08:05,800 --> 03:08:07,660
going, we have to assume it could be

4965
03:08:07,660 --> 03:08:09,580
a lot worse than the first wave, especially

4966
03:08:09,580 --> 03:08:10,880
if it's the second scenario.

4967
03:08:11,280 --> 03:08:12,660
That's the more of the tsunami one.

4968
03:08:12,760 --> 03:08:14,400
But so far, it doesn't seem to be

4969
03:08:14,400 --> 03:08:15,020
going that way.

4970
03:08:15,440 --> 03:08:16,760
We'd like to hope that we can keep

4971
03:08:16,760 --> 03:08:19,260
on top of this and hear recommendations from

4972
03:08:19,260 --> 03:08:21,600
myself and others, medical officers around the province

4973
03:08:21,600 --> 03:08:24,180
to ask the public to really focus down

4974
03:08:24,180 --> 03:08:24,360
now.

4975
03:08:24,460 --> 03:08:26,500
We really have to hunker down and stay

4976
03:08:26,500 --> 03:08:27,760
at the task to see if we can

4977
03:08:27,760 --> 03:08:29,460
flatten this curve like we did the first

4978
03:08:29,460 --> 03:08:29,700
time.

4979
03:08:30,000 --> 03:08:31,980
People have gotten very casual, I think, at

4980
03:08:31,980 --> 03:08:33,660
the end of summer, early fall.

4981
03:08:34,320 --> 03:08:35,380
And we've seen that effect.

4982
03:08:35,760 --> 03:08:37,780
But I think by everybody refocusing, and we

4983
03:08:37,780 --> 03:08:39,800
have some ideas and suggestions of that, we

4984
03:08:39,800 --> 03:08:40,720
can turn this one around.

4985
03:08:40,940 --> 03:08:44,000
So hopefully, not the premier's fears, we might

4986
03:08:44,000 --> 03:08:44,960
be able to flatten it down.

4987
03:08:45,320 --> 03:08:47,260
And it may not be worse, but we

4988
03:08:47,260 --> 03:08:49,040
cannot be presumptive on that basis.

4989
03:08:51,420 --> 03:08:52,820
BLM, baby, remember that?

4990
03:08:52,900 --> 03:08:54,420
All of a sudden, it was OK to

4991
03:08:54,420 --> 03:08:54,860
go out.

4992
03:08:55,100 --> 03:08:55,500
Go ahead.

4993
03:08:55,600 --> 03:08:58,380
Yeah, if you were protesting and burning the

4994
03:08:58,380 --> 03:09:00,020
place down, yeah, that was OK.

4995
03:09:00,280 --> 03:09:02,240
Everything else, no, you had a social distance.

4996
03:09:02,460 --> 03:09:03,780
What a crazy time.

4997
03:09:04,420 --> 03:09:06,560
That was a crock of crap if ever

4998
03:09:06,560 --> 03:09:07,200
there was.

4999
03:09:07,340 --> 03:09:08,860
Isn't it amazing how you kind of just

5000
03:09:08,860 --> 03:09:11,200
forget that stuff and just it's like a

5001
03:09:11,200 --> 03:09:13,380
vague memory and we just moved on with

5002
03:09:13,380 --> 03:09:13,740
life.

5003
03:09:14,040 --> 03:09:16,720
And here we are, Trump is president again.

5004
03:09:18,440 --> 03:09:20,520
I mean, this is, or it will be

5005
03:09:20,520 --> 03:09:20,980
president.

5006
03:09:21,200 --> 03:09:22,940
Let's just hope that all goes well.

5007
03:09:23,240 --> 03:09:25,140
Yeah, unless the aliens show up and block

5008
03:09:25,140 --> 03:09:25,340
him.

5009
03:09:27,500 --> 03:09:30,700
Yeah, or Jamie Raskin, whichever is scarier.

5010
03:09:31,500 --> 03:09:32,280
Same thing.

5011
03:09:33,120 --> 03:09:33,660
All right, everybody.

5012
03:09:33,960 --> 03:09:34,560
You ever look at that guy?

5013
03:09:34,680 --> 03:09:35,480
He looks like he does.

5014
03:09:35,860 --> 03:09:37,960
Thank you very much to Strokey Bill Walsh

5015
03:09:37,960 --> 03:09:40,780
for producing the best of COVID.

5016
03:09:40,780 --> 03:09:42,360
We appreciate you very much, brother.

5017
03:09:42,940 --> 03:09:45,540
And we look forward to returning on the

5018
03:09:45,540 --> 03:09:49,600
next episode, which will be 1723, just before

5019
03:09:49,600 --> 03:09:50,960
we get to Christmas.

5020
03:09:53,500 --> 03:09:56,980
So please remember us in the meantime at

5021
03:09:56,980 --> 03:09:58,780
noagendadonations.com.

5022
03:09:59,440 --> 03:10:02,660
Currently, I am, probably my sister might have

5023
03:10:02,660 --> 03:10:05,220
thrown black bags over everybody's head for some

5024
03:10:05,220 --> 03:10:07,940
surprise birthday party for my brother-in-law

5025
03:10:07,940 --> 03:10:09,960
in Italy.

5026
03:10:11,040 --> 03:10:12,400
So I hope I return.

5027
03:10:12,580 --> 03:10:13,820
I have no idea where I am at

5028
03:10:13,820 --> 03:10:16,320
this moment, but I will soon be coming

5029
03:10:16,320 --> 03:10:19,520
to you from Amsterdam, the Netherlands, on our

5030
03:10:19,520 --> 03:10:20,580
way back from Italy.

5031
03:10:21,220 --> 03:10:23,340
Until then, in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam

5032
03:10:23,340 --> 03:10:23,720
Currie.

5033
03:10:23,900 --> 03:10:26,260
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'll be

5034
03:10:26,260 --> 03:10:27,360
shopping at Macy's.

5035
03:10:27,360 --> 03:10:28,040
I'm John C.

5036
03:10:28,080 --> 03:10:28,540
Dvorak.

5037
03:10:28,760 --> 03:10:30,760
We'll be back on the next episode.

5038
03:10:31,080 --> 03:10:33,160
Please remember us, really, for Christmas.

5039
03:10:33,840 --> 03:10:34,800
noagendadonations.com.

5040
03:10:34,840 --> 03:10:38,020
Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and

5041
03:10:38,020 --> 03:10:38,500
such.