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John C Dvorak: Wow. Pre crime.

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Unknown: Adam curry.

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Chelsea Dvorak, Sunday,

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Adam Curry: September 8, 2024
this is your award winning give

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our nation media assassination
Episode 1693

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Unknown: this is no agenda,
countering

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Adam Curry: Canadian
disinformation and broadcasting

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live from the cruise ship,
capital of Mexico, just north of

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Puerto Rita in the morning.
Everybody. I'm Adam curry and

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where the NFL

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season has begun, and it's more
gay than ever. I'm John C

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Dvorak. Buzzkill,

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Adam Curry: wait a minute,
wasn't the first game in Brazil

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John C Dvorak: that was on
Friday? Yeah. Oh. Was

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Adam Curry: that the first game
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John C Dvorak: game? Was the
night before. Was Thursday. Oh,

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it was the chiefs. And you said
beating up on the Ravens. You

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said

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Adam Curry: it was more gay than
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, one of the
quarterbacks of one of the teams

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that they talk a lot about is
wearing a red fingernail polish.

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I don't know what that means,
but it just seems a little

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Adam Curry: unusual. Well, I can
tell they are. They're

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alienating their core audience.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I don't
think so. Everyone's got to be

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open,

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Adam Curry: yeah, especially the
opening of the show. All right,

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hey, we are a value for value
podcast. That means that we give

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you this show completely free,
open, no pay walls, no hurdles,

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no levels, no no mandatory
subscription, no premium content

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behind the firewall,

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John C Dvorak: it's all premium.
No mugs for sale.

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Adam Curry: Although I have
started calling what we're doing

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mug club media. It's mug club
media, everybody. I'm looking

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for a word that's the opposite
of mass media, and it's value

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for value based. And the best I
could come up with is mug club

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media. I don't think it works.

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John C Dvorak: It's no good.
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Adam Curry: Well, unlike Lex
Friedman, you know, the start of

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his interview with Trump, he had
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John C Dvorak: You know, if I
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Adam Curry: But if you were an
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upset. No one was because they

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John C Dvorak: jammed them all
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got weaker and weaker in terms
of their impact. Is that what

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you're saying?

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Adam Curry: No, I'm saying that
that's what the fast forward

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button is for. No one's gonna
listen to those ads. Everyone

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John C Dvorak: goes, yeah,
there's that. That's a fact,

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Adam Curry: So I don't know. We
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media money, which, by the way,
I've done a little bit of race.

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What tenant Media Go? Know It?
Yes, you do. That's the, that's

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the whole pool boy and Reuben
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John C Dvorak: No, the Russian
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Adam Curry: I'm calling it
tenant media money. Oh,

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John C Dvorak: confused.

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Adam Curry: I've delved into
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John C Dvorak: yeah, numbers,
you say, you know, maybe, maybe

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we just said a little more
things. Pro Russian, hello.

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Adam Curry: Hello, Comrade
Dvorak. How are you doing this

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morning?

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John C Dvorak: Or, I'm sorry,
net, so I think so I

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Adam Curry: figured out what was
happening, what a Canar this

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was, and I say Canar with a
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this tenant media is Lauren
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and her husband, their plan, I
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plan was to build their own
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powerhouse. Exactly. Yeah,
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course, they did this with the
Russian money. They knew exactly

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what they were doing, and so
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we'll give these guys, you know,
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John C Dvorak: I should stop you
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you to get a background on this,
which we're not obviously giving

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you at this point, go to the
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because we have a rather
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particular thing. So you may
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Adam Curry: I think most people
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John C Dvorak: geez, I'm just
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Adam Curry: all right? Well,
stop now and go back and listen

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to the last episode. And how
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the plan, the plan was to
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of people out there saying, oh,
pool board taking just some

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great memes. They've got,
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a beanie on his head. He's got
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hats. They've got a cat. Yeah,
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Putin Nate with a bear, bare
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little Tim there in front of
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John C Dvorak: you're asking for
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him. Oh, yeah. Well. Or anybody
who take, take a bunch of

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Even though you might not know
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Adam Curry: think he really
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right, I guess it was some
Belgian guy. But the plan this,

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this is what I'm getting to the
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license some, some hot content,
by the way, no agenda show

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anybody. They could have
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that, to build up this channel,
which really only had a couple

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1000 subscribers, because, you
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of how YouTube works. So it was,
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it was really this channel. You
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John C Dvorak: get some you have
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knows what he's doing to jack up
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Adam Curry: Yeah, Coney, 2012
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John C Dvorak: those numbers are
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Adam Curry: So, so that failed,
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little bit further into the
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Canadians who are doing this.
This is Canadian disinformation.

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This is not from Russia. We
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place against Canada. The
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Unknown: owned social media
channel that the US Justice

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Department alleges as a key part
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now off YouTube. YouTube said
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community guidelines. Tenant
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Lauren Chen and her husband,
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Chen. Chen is a right wing
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supporting Donald Trump and
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in Ukraine. US Department of
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Chen or her husband, and they
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CBC Evan Dyer tells us, tenant
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Kremlin scheme to use millions
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public opinion and the US
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US federal indictment says those
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for by the Kremlin, which
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through roaming millennial, a
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who then used her Tennessee
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We have not seen an adversary
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before this former

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FBI Director of
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Russian president will be
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The message the US government is
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is we see you. We're on to you,
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out. The charging documents make
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who they were dealing with. So

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far, though, the FBI has charged
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Canadians, and Americans charge

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Adam Curry: the Canadians. This
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John C Dvorak: What Russia's did
they charge? And how would they

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know? Well, that's the it's the
this is a very dubious

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Adam Curry: The Russians they
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sending the money to the
Canadians. This is Russia and

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Canada colluding to interfere
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wall stop these Canadians

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John C Dvorak: this? Well,
you're, you're, I think you're

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correct in the, in the in your
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Canadians are seemingly getting
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who's really behind this, whose
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Canadians to begin with? It
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Adam Curry: It sounds like it to
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sanctions. Throw them off.
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Unknown: let's get rid of him.

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John C Dvorak: Let's throw the
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Adam Curry: So Tucker is on the
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quite entertaining. I might say
it's basically the vote for

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Donald Trump show, but with
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Vivek, whoever he was, he's man
we, I wish we could do it. He's

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got, like, 1000s of people in
these arenas and the just, he

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just sits down with a guest and
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merch. See you later. What a
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John C Dvorak: It's good up to
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Adam Curry: I'm happy. Yeah, no,
I'm happy for him. So this comes

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up on, on this, I guess you call
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Unknown: this idea of Russian
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particular, let's trace the
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last two elections. Let's go to
2016 the allegation of Russian

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interference there. It was
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interference in the US election
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attempt at election interference
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hoax. That's in 2016 Right now
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election interference is the
systematic suppression of the

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Hunter Biden laptop story that
didn't happen by Russian

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companies. Didn't happen by the
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by us social media companies
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Canadian deep state actors in
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suppressed probably a story
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outcome of the 2020 presidential
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was Russian disinformation,
sure. So now you're seeing a

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John C Dvorak: there's domestic
Yes, are you telling me people

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actually paid money to go into a
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Unknown: Oh yeah, they love it.

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John C Dvorak: I hear it on TV
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Adam Curry: People like live
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Unknown: oh, oh, I'm

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John C Dvorak: sorry you're
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Unknown: you're seeing a
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domestic attempts at election
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through a Russian smoke screen
in 2020 there's domestic

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election interference, but they
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screen. So this time around,
when I see Merrick Garland in

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the Department of Justice
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administration, suddenly
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by the Russians, I have any
facts other than to say, my

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radar goes off and says, I want
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interference is actually
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Adam Curry: Canada. So these two

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John C Dvorak: big laughs I'm
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Adam Curry: know, I've watched a
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the mistake he's making. They do
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They did. The crowd is not,
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John C Dvorak: heard Mike, yeah,
this is common. It's, it's, it's

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Adam Curry: a shame. It's

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John C Dvorak: a church. I've
seen it. I've seen it. I was in

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a situation once where the crowd
wasn't Mike properly, yeah. And

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I was always hilarious, by the
way, yeah. And then you watch, I

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watched the thing as they
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was no reaction. Look like an
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Adam Curry: No, you look like a
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these because, you know, I used
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in Holland, and we would always

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focus the crew. It's not, you
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make the house sound good, but
the lights are also TV lights,

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and the sound is also TV sound
you have to focus on they missed

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it on this. Anyway, I want to

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John C Dvorak: mention we did
have a producer that went to one

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of these events, RFK Jr showed
up as a special guest, and he

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thought it was entertaining, but
it was only filled a 14,000 seat

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arena with 12 by 1210, to 12,000
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Adam Curry: only, only 12,000

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John C Dvorak: Well, only 12,000
Yeah, with divide 18 to 10 bucks

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they had, that's what it's good
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Adam Curry: yeah. And then you
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John C Dvorak: Parking. Merch is
probably where they get a

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Adam Curry: piece of parking.
You get a piece of the parking.

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You can have VIP parking. So
unfortunately, and there's a

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second follow clip here, they
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Unknown: of those allegations
that they were somehow helping

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Trump. I actually got curious.
Actually, you could make strong

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arguments that a lot of these
posts or whatever actually

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weren't helping Trump at all,
but the fact that they called

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that Russian election
interference again, just

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in 2016 and 2020 so I don't
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on this. Wow. I think it's just
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I think the problem is they are
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the beginning of a volley. So

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this one's not gonna land. I
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Fool me twice. The reality is, I
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weird things that happen here in
the next two months. I think

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they're gonna be some depending
what happens in the debate. So

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I'm going to the debate next
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be Tuesday. Going to be probably
a Donald Trump demo, demolition,

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destruction of the other side.
But don't share too much, right?

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Because I was at the last one,
and that's actually, in some

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ways, was a trap. It was
obviously a trap. But they

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scheduled the earliest ever
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history. Why did they do that?
It was obvious. It was that they

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wanted to test Biden as a final
trial balloon, and they got a

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free option because if he did
great, great, they turned the

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race upside down. But if Biden
did as poorly as he did, they

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swapped him out. It was
something unthinkable that

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became the obvious. So I think
if we have another debate

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smackdown on Tuesday, as I if I
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that's what we're about to have.
I also would predict we're going

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to have some very strange things
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Adam Curry: I think they missed
it. Our analysis was, it was so

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clear to us, this is about
Ukraine, or, as we say, Ukraine,

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you know it's like. No, I don't
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John C Dvorak: No, I would list
all the analysis of this, of

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this Russian stuff, and it was
all and they left out. They left

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out a lot. They always left
something out. We caught it all.

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It had nothing to do

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Adam Curry: at all. We can't be
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well, you just said it, no, but,
but no, that's, um, that's like

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saying Gaza. You know, this is,
for some reason, all the in

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crowd, which is not us, is
saying Ukraine, but you just

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said it. I said Ukraine or
Ukraine? And I said Ukraine,

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yeah, but you got, but we, I was
accentuating a point that we

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don't say these things. Oh,

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John C Dvorak: okay, well,
Ukraine, Ukraine, yeah, yes,

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that's exactly right, but that's
not going to be picked up,

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because that's not where the
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while all this is taking place,
by the way, I think we should

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start stop right here. And I
think it's time to create a

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pool, oh, a betting pool on
where is because Vivek is

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obviously an operative. Where is
he going to end up? In the in

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the Trump administration?
Ambassador, he's going to get a

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job. Ambassador, he's

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Adam Curry: getting an
ambassadorship to India. You

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think just ship him off.

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John C Dvorak: That's probably
the best thing to do. Great

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Adam Curry: job. Yeah, you need
to ship them off to one of the

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bricks countries. So India would
be perfect. Let them go sit

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there. I think that'd be good.
Yeah, and you can, yeah. I

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think, I think that's where I
put my money in the pool India

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ambassadorship. Good to go. So
meanwhile, while everyone is

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running around talking about
Russian disinformation that came

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from Canada, all the military
industrial complex came together

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in Ramstein, the Ramstein Air
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John C Dvorak: It's a Dirac
group, isn't it? Yeah,

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Adam Curry: yeah. It's also an
army base in Germany. And

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everybody was there, and all the
money was there. Everyone was

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good to go, and we brought a big
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awkward, even if it was among

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friends. Vladimir Zelinsky
arriving at a meeting of defense

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ministers from Allied countries,
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Germany. He, like his country,
soldiers once on a mission to

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ensure Ukraine's partners were
following through on promises to

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help it win its war with Russia

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a shortage of missiles and
cooperation. This applies even

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to our territory, which is
occupied by Russia, including

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Crimea. We think it is wrong
that there are such steps we

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need to have this long range
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occupied territory of Ukraine,
but also under Russia.

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Zelinsky is frustrated that
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Kyiv to hit Russia inside its
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range missiles. He believes this
is a key way to put pressure on

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Moscow to end its two and a half
year war on Ukraine. But

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speaking after the meeting US
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin,

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appear to indicate that
Washington did not believe long

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range capabilities would turn
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about other capabilities, and

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each time we point out that it's
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combination of capabilities and
how you integrate those

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capabilities to achieve
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$250 million in assistance,
while the UK and Germany also

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said they were providing
equipment, including short range

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missiles and how it says Ukraine
says it desperately needs to

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bolster its defenses. So

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Adam Curry: of course, we're not
going to give him long range

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weapons, because that could
potentially could do one of two

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things. Could start world war
three, minor issue, but it would

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possibly end something, and they
don't want that. Keep burning

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stuff on that border, keep
blowing stuff up, be doing a

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good job. And who else was
there. Who else was in in

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Ramstein, doing, I swear to God,
doing Instagram reels with

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Zelensky. Lindsey Graham,

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Unknown: I'm here with President
Zelensky. I

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am such a

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admirer of what you and your
country have done. What kind of

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stop the Russians so we don't
have to fight them. They don't

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want any American troops.

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Adam Curry: You're going to stop
the Russians so we don't have to

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fight them. You dope.

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Russians so we don't have to

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fight them. They don't want any
American troops. They just need

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the weapons to free their
country. Yeah, yeah. We

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Adam Curry: don't want American
troops on the ground kill your

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own people.

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Unknown: Terrible invasion that
they're sitting on.

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John C Dvorak: So funny. Oh, it
gets better. It

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Adam Curry: gets better. He does
a classic here, it gets better.

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Unknown: Terrible invasion.
They're sitting on trillion

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dollars worth of minerals that
could be good to our economy,

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helping our friends in Ukraine.
We can win this later. Help.

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Yes, we need, and we have
already the biggest help. Is the

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support of American people and
support of our friends. Thanks

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to Lindsey and his colleagues,
to congressmen and centers from

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the United States, thanks for
this support, bipartisan

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support. Thank you so much.

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Peace is coming. Yes,

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Adam Curry: peace is coming
right after we so I don't know

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if Zelensky is he must be in on
the game, because no way is he

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gonna get any of the $26
trillion worth of minerals that

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are in Ukraine's land. No way
you said it again. I'm doing on

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purpose now. And this is this.
Lindsey Graham has been saying

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this, but no one ever calls him
out on it or says this is the

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real reason for this war.
They're

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Unknown: sitting on 10 to $12
trillion of critical minerals in

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Ukraine. They could be the
richest country in all of

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Europe. I don't want to give
that money and those assets to

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Putin to share with China or to
Ukraine. If we help Ukraine now,

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they can become the best
business partner we ever dreamed

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of. Sign here that 10 to $12
trillion of critical mineral

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assets could be used by Ukraine
and the West, not given to Putin

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and China. This is a very big
deal how Ukraine ends. Let's

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help them win a war we can't
afford to lose. Let's find a

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solution to this war. But
they're sitting on a gold mine,

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Adam Curry: yeah, and this was
months ago that he said this. So

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it's like this, so obvious what
is going on. They've already

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given away all of the the bread
basket of Europe to the big, you

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know, Monsanto and Cargill, and
not Montana Cargill, and who are

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the other guys who did the big,
uh, big, AG, Tyson. Probably

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think Tyson, so Tyson's

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John C Dvorak: on this deal
well, but yeah, I'd rather have

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the Russians. I hit the you
know, we're not getting paid

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Russian money, but I'm going to
say it not yet. You're working

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on it. I can hear you. I see
what the Russians should have

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them, let them do it, because
the one thing I've noticed about

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them is they're not gougers.
When they're given all the gas

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and they're pumping it all into
Europe, and everyone said all

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the way to go, we're gonna
depend in on it, they're not.

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They're never gouged anybody.
They just let they just let it.

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They take a look at it, take a
small profit, and then they dump

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it out there. And, you know, the
gougers are, are looking for

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that, that the wheat fields, and
the gougers are looking for the

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minerals

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Adam Curry: the gougers are
starving Africans with, with the

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wheat and the grain, yeah,

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John C Dvorak: that is, that is
the negative side of capitalism.

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Adam Curry: this brings me to a
boots on the ground from one of

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our producers in Russia who
says, I love your show. I'm an

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American currently studying

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John C Dvorak: American in
Russia. Yes, we need to get

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Russians. You know, I want to
stop right here and mention that

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people that are listening to
show that are in I know it's, I

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know in Spain, they listen to
the show. And I visit with a few

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of them once, and they said,
Well, the great thing about the

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show is you guys speak clearly,
and it's good for us to practice

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our English. All world listeners
out there should pass it along

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to other people that are in the
community, Russia and elsewhere,

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listen to this show so you can
practice your English. And

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Adam Curry: we have transcripts
in the modern podcast app so you

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can read along and learn
unbelievable and learn and learn

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how to spell Dvorak,

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John C Dvorak: John. See, John,
see,

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Adam Curry: love your show on
American currently studying in

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Russia because it's cheap. Just
wanted to tell you that I've

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observed what I have observed
here in Russia regarding the

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Russia, Russo Ukrainian war, I
think, and do believe, that

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there will never be a
demilitarized zone in Russia, at

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least maybe inside of Ukraine,
the Kursk region will not be

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part of a demilitarized zone.
John touched on something I

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think is true. In 1943 the
Germans attacked the Kursk

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salient and set up and to set up
a trap. I think the Russians set

449
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the same trap in the Kursk
Region this time, as well as

450
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there was nothing but green.
This is a student. There's

451
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nothing but green conscript
guarding the border. A little

452
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like October 7. Ah, the total
number of troops crossing the

453
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border at first was 1000 once
they got inside Russia, the

454
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Ukrainians put another 11,000
troops into the region. As of

455
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now, the casualty numbers for
the Ukrainians could be as high

456
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as 6000 out of a total of 12,000
initial troop count. But of

457
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course, you know that's not
reported. Also, the Ukrainians

458
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not gambled and lost. Anybody
report facts. Also, the

459
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Ukrainians gambled and lost that
Russia would pull the troops

460
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:45,760
from the entire eastern front to
stop this incursion, which they

461
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:51,460
didn't. Ukrainians had to
redeploy some of their forces

462
00:24:51,460 --> 00:24:55,720
from Kursk to pro Kursk just to
slow down the Russian advance.

463
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,820
John, you had a clip from
YouTube channel, military

464
00:24:57,820 --> 00:25:00,240
summary channel, I know you two
are busy and blah, blah. Blah.

465
00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:03,240
Finally, just let the dames
knights and fellow producers

466
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,640
know that Russians are really
friendly, caring, and they have

467
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,880
a great sense of dark humor.
They hold hands and hug, that's

468
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,360
for sure. They hold hands and
hug while drinking overpriced

469
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:15,720
coffee, talking about how crappy
their pop music is. And did you

470
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,320
see that latest internet meme?
They could be Americans of the

471
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,040
eastern hemisphere, which is
maybe why our governments are at

472
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,980
each other's throats sometimes.
Also, I can still get Coke and

473
00:25:24,980 --> 00:25:29,180
Pepsi here. McDonald's and KFC
just renamed themselves to Tasty

474
00:25:29,180 --> 00:25:32,960
period and rustics. Well, tasty
period.

475
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,180
John C Dvorak: Nicey period.
What

476
00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:37,880
Adam Curry: kind, what kind of
franchise marketing is that?

477
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,500
John C Dvorak: Oh no, but it
doesn't sound right, while

478
00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:41,860
Burger

479
00:25:41,860 --> 00:25:44,440
Adam Curry: King hasn't even
taken down their signs and are

480
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,640
still open for business in my
city's biggest Molly even found

481
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,300
a can of a and W Root Beer from
America. How do I know it's from

482
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:55,840
America? Ingredients in English,
and second ingredient was high

483
00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,720
fructose corn syrup. Well, how
about that? That should be isn't

484
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,480
that illegal? Aren't they?
Aren't they breaking sanctions

485
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,820
by still operating in Russia?

486
00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:08,940
John C Dvorak: Oh, they use
middlemen in some sort of a

487
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,060
legal way. Let's face it,
there's a work it's called a

488
00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:16,740
workaround. And one of the
things Americans are good at is

489
00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:20,120
workarounds. We're good at that.
You find them, we work them out,

490
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:24,440
reach around, that's different.
We're good. We're always mixing

491
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:24,980
these things. I'm

492
00:26:24,980 --> 00:26:26,000
Adam Curry: sorry. I'm sorry. No

493
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,740
John C Dvorak: wonder you keep
screwing up.

494
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,580
Adam Curry: So there was a so
now we have a report, I think

495
00:26:31,580 --> 00:26:35,300
France 24 it was maybe Deutsche
villa, and they bring in a

496
00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:38,960
military industrial complex
shield, which the whole thing

497
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,960
was all mic, Ukraine

498
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,080
Unknown: says it is concerned by
foreign media reports that Iran

499
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,200
has delivered short range
ballistic missiles to Russia.

500
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,760
Moscow, they hear the Iran meme
coming in now stepped up missile

501
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,720
and drone attacks in recent
days, stretching Ukraine's air

502
00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,120
defenses. Kief and its allies
have previously accused Iran of

503
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:04,800
supplying ahead drones to
Russia, but Iran denies playing,

504
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,820
supplying any weapons used to
attack Ukraine.

505
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,420
Adam Curry: Let's bring in the
shell well. So the story is,

506
00:27:12,420 --> 00:27:13,920
What? What? What?

507
00:27:14,340 --> 00:27:17,100
John C Dvorak: What? Why are
they making this disassertion?

508
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:18,720
What? What difference does it
make? Well, here

509
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,600
Adam Curry: comes the the shield
to tell us why,

510
00:27:20,660 --> 00:27:23,900
Unknown: and we are now joined
by Mark. Can see in a former

511
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:27,680
colonel in the US military and
now the Center for Strategic and

512
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,460
International Studies in
Washington, Colonel, Russia,

513
00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:35,600
need Iranian missiles. Does it
not have enough of its own?

514
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,200
Well, it does

515
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,480
not have enough on its on its
own. It has been producing

516
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:45,460
ballistic missiles all along,
often with parts smuggled in

517
00:27:45,460 --> 00:27:50,260
from global sources. But those
haven't been enough to

518
00:27:50,260 --> 00:27:52,720
accomplish the ends that they're
trying to accomplish, for

519
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,500
example, attacking Ukrainian
infrastructure, electricity, for

520
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,560
example. So they brought in
ballistic missiles from North

521
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,400
Korea, and now they're proposing
to bring in the ballistic

522
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,700
missiles from Iran. It's
important to keep in mind that

523
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:11,280
Iran has been supplying Russia
with missiles all along. 136 is

524
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,000
that we just heard about. Iran
has been sending for about a

525
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,440
year. And in fact, they've set
up a plant in the in Russia to

526
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,920
produce these missiles, these
kamikaze drones, the ballistic

527
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:30,020
missiles, is a step up in
support, but not fundamentally a

528
00:28:30,020 --> 00:28:31,100
change in policy.

529
00:28:31,340 --> 00:28:33,980
Adam Curry: Okay, so they're
just bringing Iran into it for

530
00:28:33,980 --> 00:28:38,060
whatever reason. We can kind of
guess why. And if you heard at

531
00:28:38,060 --> 00:28:42,040
the beginning of the well, of
course, they want war with Iran,

532
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:46,900
anything more military
industrial complex, finance?

533
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,260
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a
bit of that, but it this whole

534
00:28:50,260 --> 00:28:55,240
story that makes no logical
sense. One thing they claim is

535
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,300
basically, the Russians are
losers. They can't even make

536
00:28:58,300 --> 00:28:59,800
their own damn missiles. Well,

537
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,800
Adam Curry: where does it come
from? At the beginning of the

538
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,940
report you heard, according to
reports? Well, where did it come

539
00:29:05,940 --> 00:29:11,400
from? It came from the chiefs of
MI six and CIA themselves, who

540
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:17,820
appeared at a Financial Times
conference just before the

541
00:29:17,820 --> 00:29:19,080
Ramstein conference,

542
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,220
Unknown: stepping out from the
shadows for the first time

543
00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:27,920
together a united front in an
era of division and danger, such

544
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,480
as claims that Iran has supplied
Russia with ballistic missiles

545
00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:35,060
for its war in Ukraine. Should

546
00:29:35,060 --> 00:29:39,500
Iran ship ballistic missiles of
whatever kind, close range or

547
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:43,540
other kinds, it would be a
dramatic escalation of the

548
00:29:43,540 --> 00:29:45,280
nature of that Defense
Partnership.

549
00:29:45,340 --> 00:29:49,420
No confirmation that Russia's
invasion of Ukraine is a key

550
00:29:50,020 --> 00:29:53,800
John C Dvorak: wait. So these
are good clips, by the way.

551
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Thank you. The assertion there's
interesting cross purposes of.

552
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,520
Assertions. The first one was
that, oh no, they're not doing

553
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,640
anything, but they're going to
start doing it. Yeah. Oh yeah.

554
00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:09,420
Which is which we've known since
day one, that they've been and

555
00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:11,820
we've seen pictures of the
missiles. I've written, I I've

556
00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:15,900
shown, yes, pictures of the
factories in the newsletter. Six

557
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:21,140
months ago, took longer, maybe,
of the factory in Iran, exactly

558
00:30:21,140 --> 00:30:24,560
the model numbers and everything
that were for all these drones.

559
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,460
We have all the data, all the
information that missile lands

560
00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:31,580
and doesn't blow up, and they
can see, they take pictures of

561
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:34,100
it and put those in the
newsletter. It's all been

562
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,460
documented, but now, all of a
sudden, they haven't really been

563
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:41,020
doing any of that, but they're
going to start to Are you

564
00:30:41,020 --> 00:30:43,900
kidding me? They think that
we're that stupid.

565
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,140
Adam Curry: Well please bear in
mind, for the first time ever in

566
00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:50,740
public together, it's the chief
of the CIA burns and the chief

567
00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:55,600
of MI six more who are telling
us this. So now we can believe

568
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:55,900
it.

569
00:30:56,380 --> 00:30:58,360
Unknown: Of the nature of that
Defense Partnership.

570
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,580
No confirmation, but Russia's
invasion of Ukraine is a key

571
00:31:02,580 --> 00:31:07,860
focus for the spike East. They
applaud a recent incursion by

572
00:31:07,860 --> 00:31:12,180
keys in the opposite direction,
with Ukrainian troops snatching

573
00:31:12,180 --> 00:31:13,860
parts of Russian land.

574
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,480
It's typically audacious and
bold on the part of the

575
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,080
Ukrainians,

576
00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:25,280
oh, so bold, on the part of the
Ukrainian, audacious,

577
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,180
to try and change the game in
the way. And I think they have

578
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,120
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, you want
to say something. No, I

579
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,700
John C Dvorak: was just saying,
I was just listening to the man

580
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:36,380
talk about

581
00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:40,360
Unknown: my Shrek, to try and
change the game in the way. And

582
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,560
I think they have, to a degree,
changed the narrative around us.

583
00:31:44,620 --> 00:31:48,400
The Kursk offensive is a
significant tactical achievement

584
00:31:50,020 --> 00:31:53,200
boost and Ukrainian morale. It
exposed some of the

585
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,260
vulnerabilities of Putin's
Russia and of his military.

586
00:31:56,380 --> 00:31:56,980
Despite

587
00:31:56,980 --> 00:32:01,320
the blow, Vladimir Putin is
still deemed to be looking

588
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,960
strong for now, I

589
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,740
don't see any evidence today
that Putin's grip on power is is

590
00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:12,000
weakening. He, he does one thing
really well, and that's repress

591
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:13,680
people at home. Yeah,

592
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,660
I mean, I just don't ever
confuse a tight grip with a

593
00:32:18,660 --> 00:32:20,420
stable grip. So

594
00:32:20,420 --> 00:32:24,680
Adam Curry: he all he does is
oppress people at home with, I

595
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,780
don't know, Burger King, KFC,
McDonald's, a and W Root Beer,

596
00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:33,740
Pepsi's. And then what does he
actually come out and say

597
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,220
Unknown: an endorsement made in
jest speaking as a guest at a

598
00:32:37,220 --> 00:32:40,780
forum in East Russia, Vladimir
Putin candidly suggested that

599
00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:43,780
Kamala Harris was his preferred
candidate for November's US

600
00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:44,800
presidential

601
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,060
election. She

602
00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:49,300
has such an expressive and
infectious laugh, it shows she's

603
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:55,000
doing well. I mean, Trump, he's
imposed more restrictions and

604
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,660
sanctions on Russia than any
President has ever imposed

605
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,060
before. And if Mrs. Harris is
doing well, maybe she'll refrain

606
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,500
from doing something like that.

607
00:33:05,580 --> 00:33:10,080
The comments were met with
laughter by the audience, adding

608
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,900
to the modern theme of the
remarks a common trend whenever

609
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:15,960
Putin has talked on social
issues in the United States, the

610
00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:19,020
Russian president had earlier
this year backed outgoing

611
00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:21,860
President Joe Biden over Trump
claiming he was more

612
00:33:21,860 --> 00:33:25,700
predictable. Trump for his path,
said he was left feeling split

613
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:27,620
over Putin's latest comments. I

614
00:33:27,620 --> 00:33:30,380
don't know exactly what to say
about that. I don't know if I'm

615
00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:33,080
insulted or he did me a favor.

616
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:35,720
The US National Security
Council, meanwhile, called on

617
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,540
Putin to stop talking about
American elections and to stop

618
00:33:38,540 --> 00:33:39,980
interfering with them. Stop

619
00:33:39,980 --> 00:33:41,380
Adam Curry: talking about us.

620
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,000
Unknown: This is great. It's
like he's trolling while he

621
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,660
totally

622
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,020
John C Dvorak: while he is
picked up a clue. Yeah, he is

623
00:33:53,020 --> 00:33:55,720
trolling. In fact, I like to
have somebody else translate

624
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,080
what he said, Because I
skeptical. I bet this clip came

625
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,800
out some time back and then was
skeptical about it's a

626
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,260
translation. Well, that's a good
point, although this

627
00:34:04,260 --> 00:34:07,200
translation, with the one I
heard was a woman translator,

628
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,660
and this one was a male so this
is slightly different. Well,

629
00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:12,780
Adam Curry: the reason I picked
this one is, is France 24 and

630
00:34:12,780 --> 00:34:15,900
they had a much more coherent
translate. The translation was

631
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:19,920
the same as the the Russian
translator, the clip that we all

632
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,180
and

633
00:34:20,180 --> 00:34:22,340
John C Dvorak: the thing, the
thing that made me suspicious

634
00:34:22,340 --> 00:34:26,780
about the clip was that when he
talked about camel's infectious

635
00:34:26,780 --> 00:34:30,200
laugh, or basically, or
cackling, yeah, the audience

636
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,440
cracked up as as if they'd heard
it. And I don't know why they

637
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,220
would. Well, they've heard her
life. Why would they have heard

638
00:34:37,220 --> 00:34:40,180
Camela cackling? Why would they
have heard any of it? It's

639
00:34:40,180 --> 00:34:45,880
really, it's, it's like some
minor, uh, little, uh piccadillo

640
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,260
That saves some politician in
Portugal might have, and if you

641
00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:53,320
mentioned to an American
audience, they'd all, they'd all

642
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,620
laugh about it when we would
have no clue. You just didn't

643
00:34:56,620 --> 00:34:58,660
make any sense to me that they'd
heard her laugh.

644
00:34:59,020 --> 00:35:01,080
Adam Curry: Come on. They're
serious,

645
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,100
John C Dvorak: that a Russian
national would have ever heard

646
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:07,020
anything Kamala Harris ever
said.

647
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:11,820
Adam Curry: My I dispute that. I
think that the Russians are all

648
00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:17,040
over listening to what's going
on with us. Why not?

649
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,720
John C Dvorak: I just don't see
it. I don't see one thing, she's

650
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:22,160
never said anything important.

651
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Adam Curry: I mean, that's the
only thing, listen, that's the

652
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,540
only thing she's known for is
that laugh.

653
00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:31,340
John C Dvorak: Yeah, to us the

654
00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:33,860
Adam Curry: world over, the
Dutch are talking about it. I

655
00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:38,360
see it in the Dutch press. So, I
mean, not quite Russia, but not

656
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:44,440
far off. So I don't know. We'll
look for it. I

657
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,600
John C Dvorak: just said it made
me skeptical. I mean, I didn't

658
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,480
know that the Dutch were all
aware of the stupid laugh, but

659
00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:52,540
Adam Curry: everyone's aware of
the stupid laugh.

660
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,280
John C Dvorak: Dispute that. Now
you use the word dispute, so I

661
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,360
used it back. You

662
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,200
Adam Curry: can dispute it all
you want. Now, will they know

663
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,440
that she, all of a sudden,
starts talking Southern and

664
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,540
black? No, no, that I that I
think they wouldn't know until

665
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:10,980
now without

666
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,940
Unknown: voter suppression. JC,
Abrams would be the governor of

667
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:20,700
Georgia. Andrew Gillum is the
governor of Florida. Imma, get

668
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:24,800
into some business now. Okay,
you all helped us win in 2020

669
00:36:25,460 --> 00:36:28,820
and we gonna do it again in 2024
What are you gonna do about it?

670
00:36:28,820 --> 00:36:32,840
He does not walk it like he
talks sick when we get this done

671
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:38,660
together, my friend, can I get a
witness? You think you just fell

672
00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:39,920
out of a coconut tree?

673
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:41,380
Best Rapper alive,

674
00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:42,220
chouphop.

675
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,740
Are you kidding me?

676
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:52,360
I'm totally part of that whole
listening generation of music.

677
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,420
Young men of color. Black men.
Is not it's not just a

678
00:36:55,420 --> 00:36:57,760
barbershop. We got these
brothers out there. This one

679
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,840
brother was doing a lot of work
space. We have to say, woke,

680
00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:05,340
let's get a cease fire. There
must be an immediate cease fire,

681
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,240
like everybody needs to be, woke
to stay more woke than less.

682
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:14,400
Woke. Leave grandma's medical
marijuana alone. You better.

683
00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:19,800
Thank a union member. Thank a
union member for sick. Leave,

684
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,380
you better. Thank a union member
for paid leave, and I thank a

685
00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:29,060
union member for vacation time.
I also worked at McDonald's.

686
00:37:30,140 --> 00:37:34,160
Adam Curry: There you go see the
Russians. Didn't know about

687
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,200
that. They do now.

688
00:37:36,260 --> 00:37:37,220
Unknown: Hello, Russia.

689
00:37:38,780 --> 00:37:41,380
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, the
one or two Russians that listen

690
00:37:41,380 --> 00:37:43,600
to this show. They got to get
more people listening.

691
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,440
Adam Curry: Yes, I agree. Hit
some Russians in the mouth. Not,

692
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,840
not a call for violence. Yeah,
okay, well, I've opened the

693
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,160
show. Well,

694
00:37:54,220 --> 00:37:58,720
John C Dvorak: I do have my all
my totality of Ukraine. Eclipse

695
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,540
is from PBS. It's a 22 second
clip was summarized. What was

696
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:09,060
you didn't even touch upon, but
it did summarize the Ukraine war

697
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:12,060
for the last week, and you might
as well play it. In

698
00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:14,520
Unknown: Ukraine, Russian drone
attacks are getting dangerously

699
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,640
close to the country's capital.
Ukraine's Air Force said that

700
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,900
across the country, overnight,
it shot down nearly 60 long

701
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:24,080
range drones, debris and
shrapnel fell on the streets in

702
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,780
Kyiv, some of it narrowly
missing the country's parliament

703
00:38:26,780 --> 00:38:29,900
building. President Volodymyr
Zelensky is in Italy. Today.

704
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:32,300
He's meeting with European
leaders to try to shore up

705
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:33,740
support and ask for more

706
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:37,640
Adam Curry: aid. Money. Money,
money. Looking for money. Money,

707
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,220
money. Come on, man, give me
some money. Yeah.

708
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,480
John C Dvorak: Hey, guys gotta
go,

709
00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:46,720
Adam Curry: Oh, he's perfect.
He's, I mean, he's, he's perfect

710
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,660
for the whole, gotta go. He's
perfect for the whole, the whole

711
00:38:49,660 --> 00:38:50,380
system.

712
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,160
John C Dvorak: I'm sick of the
system being exploited. That's

713
00:38:54,220 --> 00:38:57,100
our money. It's your money, my
money. Everyone that listens to

714
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:59,800
this show, it's their money. Oh,
this. They're just stealing

715
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,660
money. No,

716
00:39:00,660 --> 00:39:06,180
Adam Curry: I feel your, your
dismay. I'm just pointing out

717
00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:09,540
the obvious. The guy's not going
to go he's fantastic. Look,

718
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:14,460
when, when we send another two
$50 million or if we're, if we

719
00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:20,040
make decisions about long range
missiles, why is it only Lloyd

720
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,080
Austin that talks about, where's
our president? Isn't he the one

721
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,080
to get it out? Isn't he the one
that should be telling us what

722
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,340
we're doing? No, they just send
over generals and then

723
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,840
contractors, and they all sit in
at a long desk, and Zelensky

724
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,360
then, oh yeah, good man, yeah.
Keep it going, brother. Yeah. We

725
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,140
want more stuff.

726
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,740
John C Dvorak: Oh, you do have
another I have another clip of

727
00:39:44,740 --> 00:39:49,720
play. This is the drone. It
says, Don't he have this is,

728
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:54,340
this is the counter clip. This
is a longer clip. NPR does a 33

729
00:39:54,580 --> 00:39:56,560
Adam Curry: seconds. Oh, nice.
Here we go.

730
00:39:57,220 --> 00:40:00,420
Unknown: Russia continued to
bomb Ukraine today. Strike. Near

731
00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:03,780
the parliament in the country's
capital, Kyiv, during the early

732
00:40:03,780 --> 00:40:07,920
hours, the country's Air Force
said nearly 70 drones were used,

733
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,160
and most were shot down with air
defenses. No deaths were

734
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,640
reported in the capital, but
elsewhere in Sumy, Kharkiv,

735
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,060
Kherson and Dnipro, local
officials say Russian attacks

736
00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:21,920
injured or killed at least four
people. This as funeral services

737
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,980
were held for victims of an
earlier Russian attack on

738
00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:29,960
Poltava that killed more than 50
people and injured hundreds.

739
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:32,780
John C Dvorak: You see that no
mention of money. There

740
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,780
Adam Curry: no but the horrible.
The reason why it's a 33 second

741
00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:39,920
report is because even NPR knows
no one in America cares anymore

742
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,180
about this. We've we're immune.
We're like,

743
00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:46,540
John C Dvorak: I agree. I agree
with that. So they're

744
00:40:46,660 --> 00:40:50,320
Adam Curry: trying to keep their
audience. So PBS, so

745
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:52,960
John C Dvorak: they gotta do
more anti Trump stuff and stuff

746
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,220
about these wars or anything.

747
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,100
Adam Curry: Yes, that's what you
need do more. You know, the I

748
00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:02,460
didn't clip any of it, but the
latest trend in and I heard this

749
00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:07,680
on on the media from NPR, the
trend is to say we're not

750
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,700
reporting right on Trump. We're
translating his incoherent

751
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:16,980
blather because he's old, he's
old and he can't senile and

752
00:41:16,980 --> 00:41:20,360
senile, and so we're translating
it. We should be playing and

753
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,420
saying exactly what he said,
because no one understands it.

754
00:41:23,420 --> 00:41:28,340
He's, I mean, it's all this is
the new move is to make you got

755
00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:33,380
to make Trump sound stupid.
Well, the problem is that they

756
00:41:33,380 --> 00:41:36,980
don't have enough air time,
because his what he calls the

757
00:41:36,980 --> 00:41:42,580
weave. It takes too long. It
takes way too long for him to,

758
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,200
you know, to get to a point.

759
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,220
John C Dvorak: And, oh, it takes
forever. It's, that's his whole

760
00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:52,720
thing, is he, he's just a
audience hog, the only way to

761
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:57,160
describe it, yes, he goes up
there and yaks, yaks, yaks, yes,

762
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,620
and he, and he tries to do
material. I had a clip here that

763
00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:03,180
actually discusses this.

764
00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:06,540
Adam Curry: Well, this is the
trend, so I'm glad, I'm glad

765
00:42:06,540 --> 00:42:08,880
that you're on it, because I
didn't get anything.

766
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:14,220
John C Dvorak: Here's nb. This
says NPR. Put Emma seven in this

767
00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:18,660
randomly ripping Trump on his
tariffs and some others. This

768
00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:22,160
just a random NPR rip

769
00:42:22,820 --> 00:42:25,460
Adam Curry: man, I wish I could
find it. You confuse me with M,

770
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,300
John C Dvorak: P R, M, as in,
Mary looking at m, O,

771
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:31,100
Adam Curry: M, P R, yes, I got
you.

772
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:33,560
Unknown: Former President Donald
Trump spoke at a rally in

773
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,560
mosney, Wisconsin this
afternoon, a speech that went on

774
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,960
for more than an hour and a half
the rally, no state push both

775
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,900
campaigns are doing with less
than two months until Election

776
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:46,840
Day and pierce Daniel Curtis
Leben reports,

777
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:49,720
Trump made many of his usual
arguments, like railing against

778
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:52,720
the quote fake news and casting
undocumented immigrants as

779
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:53,620
dangerous. See, this

780
00:42:53,620 --> 00:42:56,140
Adam Curry: is what they want.
They Hey, hey, you can't do that

781
00:42:56,140 --> 00:42:59,560
anymore. You have to verbatim
report what he said, because

782
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,000
he's he has cognitive issues. He
also repeats.

783
00:43:03,060 --> 00:43:06,000
John C Dvorak: He would stop
before he finish that or that

784
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,460
thought. The way they begin the
report is, though he went on for

785
00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:14,460
an hour and a half like he's a
rambling old man, as if he's

786
00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:19,440
never He does 145 once in a
while. Yeah, an hour and a half

787
00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:22,160
in the modern era is short,

788
00:43:22,340 --> 00:43:24,620
Adam Curry: and you wonder why
people pay money to go see

789
00:43:24,620 --> 00:43:29,060
Tucker and Vivek. They go, they
they love, people love the live

790
00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:33,140
show. Can't afford Oasis
tickets, so you might as well go

791
00:43:33,140 --> 00:43:35,300
to either the free Trump show,
which is

792
00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:38,840
John C Dvorak: not you mentioned
it. What is a Taylor Swift

793
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,120
ticket cost? Oh, if you can get
one, I've been just like 500

794
00:43:43,420 --> 00:43:44,860
bucks and up. I've been hitting

795
00:43:44,860 --> 00:43:47,260
Adam Curry: refresh for hours.
Also repeatedly promoted

796
00:43:47,260 --> 00:43:47,860
tariffs.

797
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,040
Unknown: We will charge other
countries when their product is

798
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,000
sent into our country. And why
shouldn't we? That's exactly

799
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,840
what they do. That's what that's
what made China strong. Foreign

800
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,860
countries do not pay tariffs.
Businesses importing goods to

801
00:44:01,860 --> 00:44:05,460
the US do tariffs can be
attempts to protect domestic

802
00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:08,460
industry, but economists say
many of tariffs costs are passed

803
00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:12,000
on to us, consumers. As
President Trump imposed tariffs

804
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,520
on hundreds of billions of
dollars of Chinese goods.

805
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,060
President Joe Biden kept tariffs
on Chinese goods in place.

806
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:20,540
Danielle kurtzweb, NPR news now.

807
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,900
John C Dvorak: Okay, this is an
interesting report, because they

808
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:27,920
go on to condemn Him for
tariffs, yeah, but Biden did it

809
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,240
casually, yeah, casually just
kind of mentioned, just to

810
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:35,300
balance the report. I'm not sure
why they even did it. Well, they

811
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:35,960
mentioned that

812
00:44:37,220 --> 00:44:38,780
Unknown: go ahead. Well, I

813
00:44:38,780 --> 00:44:40,100
John C Dvorak: thought you had
something to say there.

814
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:40,900
Adam Curry: No go ahead.

815
00:44:41,500 --> 00:44:44,560
John C Dvorak: I would do so
what they did was they set it up

816
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,080
with all this guy's terrible.
Oh, by the way, Biden did the

817
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,260
same thing. They only did that
because it because they would be

818
00:44:50,260 --> 00:44:54,100
condemned by the media watchers
for not saying, hey, wait a

819
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,740
minute. Why is it so bad when
Trump does it, but it's okay

820
00:44:56,740 --> 00:44:59,860
when Biden does it, which is
really what the combat so they.

821
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,940
Lip it in at the end, as though
you won't notice. So

822
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,000
Adam Curry: it's very poor. So
I've seen a couple things that

823
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:12,180
make me question. Well, I mean,
if you look at the headlines

824
00:45:12,180 --> 00:45:15,060
today, neck and neck, it's very
close, within the margin of

825
00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:18,420
error. It's a horse race,
everybody. Oh, it's crazy. It's

826
00:45:18,420 --> 00:45:23,240
so close, so close. I don't know
if they're trying to pull

827
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:28,640
Trump's numbers up a little bit
or I don't know, yes, I don't

828
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,880
know what PBS was thinking with
this. This is so instead of

829
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:35,300
playing crazy Trump, let's play
something from the crazy Trump

830
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:37,640
voters. And Are they crazy?

831
00:45:37,820 --> 00:45:40,900
Unknown: I spoke to another
Trump supporter, woman who

832
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:41,680
really spout

833
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,360
Adam Curry: why don't they say
voters? They always say

834
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:48,700
supporters. You don't notice
that. So that's a good I'll have

835
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:51,580
to start looking for that call
about they say fans or

836
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,740
supporters, or anyway,

837
00:45:53,860 --> 00:45:56,980
Unknown: I spoke to another
Trump supporter, woman who

838
00:45:56,980 --> 00:46:00,420
really spouted a series of
conspiracy theories. She was

839
00:46:00,420 --> 00:46:03,660
someone being trained for this
Trump force 47 potentially, she

840
00:46:03,660 --> 00:46:06,900
was in that she's gonna be one
of those people trying to

841
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:09,060
persuade she was in that
meeting. I didn't stay for the

842
00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:10,980
actual training, but she was
there for that event.

843
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,060
John C Dvorak: And hold on,
Trump

844
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,080
Adam Curry: force 47

845
00:46:13,380 --> 00:46:15,720
John C Dvorak: I didn't stay for
the actual Wait. Why didn't she

846
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:17,580
stay? Because it

847
00:46:17,580 --> 00:46:19,860
Adam Curry: would, it would rot
her brain, and she'd become a

848
00:46:19,860 --> 00:46:23,660
Trump supporter. She didn't want
the programming. I don't know.

849
00:46:24,860 --> 00:46:26,960
This is Trump force. If

850
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,360
John C Dvorak: you're reporting
on something, no, even if you

851
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,540
didn't stay, why would you say
that? It seems to me that you,

852
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,380
especially if you're NPR or PBS,
whatever, this is same thing. I

853
00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:39,440
Adam Curry: think this was these
are on YouTube. These are like,

854
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,540
Zoom calls. You can sign up to
become part of Trump force 40

855
00:46:43,780 --> 00:46:47,740
Okay, okay, yes, I like it a
lot. Actually, I like the whole

856
00:46:47,740 --> 00:46:49,120
idea of Trump force 47

857
00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:54,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay, well,
you can just keep playing force

858
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:55,000
47

859
00:46:55,540 --> 00:46:57,700
Unknown: I didn't stay for the
actual training, but she was

860
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:01,620
there for that event, and she
told me, you know, I believe Joe

861
00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:04,800
Biden died three years ago, you
know, I told her, you know, that

862
00:47:04,860 --> 00:47:05,820
sounds like a

863
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:09,720
Adam Curry: conspiracy theory.
Well, Boyd, she countered. She

864
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:12,240
said, Oh no, that's a conspiracy
theory. You know that, right?

865
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:12,720
And I told

866
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:14,820
Unknown: her, you know, that
sounds like a conspiracy theory,

867
00:47:14,820 --> 00:47:17,340
you know, that's a stereotype
against Trump voters. And she

868
00:47:17,340 --> 00:47:21,020
said, I know that. But again,
this is true. So I talked to the

869
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:23,420
first woman, suburban woman, I
Trump voter, said, you know,

870
00:47:23,420 --> 00:47:25,640
these are the other supporters
of Donald Trump. These are the

871
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,820
same people in your party
supporting him. I just said, you

872
00:47:28,820 --> 00:47:32,240
know, I think that's just crazy,
you know. So they're, they're

873
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:34,940
really on different pages.
They're both behind Donald

874
00:47:34,940 --> 00:47:37,520
Trump, but they, neither one,
are quite seeing the full

875
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,260
picture of his support and what
he stands for to everyone who

876
00:47:41,260 --> 00:47:42,160
supports him. So

877
00:47:42,220 --> 00:47:45,640
Adam Curry: what I supports him.
What I like about this is

878
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,080
they're saying there's such a
wide array of people who are all

879
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,380
in on Trump, they're baffled by
it. Yes, they're baffled,

880
00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:56,920
exactly like the crazy ones. And
the other ones say, Okay, well,

881
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:02,100
she's crazy, but it's all right.
They cannot fathom that. People

882
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:06,180
just want an agenda, or, you
know, they want a platform, or

883
00:48:06,180 --> 00:48:09,420
they want something, anything,
but what we have, they can't

884
00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:10,200
lockstep

885
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,600
John C Dvorak: is what this is,
the way they are. And the thing

886
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,640
that still fascinates me to go
back to it, this was agenda with

887
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,340
Trump 47 I guess, force,
whatever it's

888
00:48:20,340 --> 00:48:21,560
Adam Curry: called, Trump force
47

889
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,480
John C Dvorak: Trump force 47
training, and you had the

890
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,560
opportunity to go to get in on
it as a reporter. And you you

891
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,860
could report on exactly what the
training was and how it works.

892
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:36,020
What kind of a Reporter Are

893
00:48:36,020 --> 00:48:39,680
Adam Curry: you? There's and I'm
seeing all kind

894
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,500
John C Dvorak: of asking you, I
mean just gently, I

895
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,920
Adam Curry: hear you. I hear you
that it's PBS reporter, is what

896
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,460
she is.

897
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,860
John C Dvorak: Would you like to
come to our conspiracy theory

898
00:48:47,860 --> 00:48:51,460
meeting? I know we don't usually
let the press in, but if you

899
00:48:51,460 --> 00:48:54,940
come in, it's okay. It'll be
okay for you to come in and spy

900
00:48:54,940 --> 00:48:59,560
on us. No problem. And you don't
do it. I hereby invite. Are you

901
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,220
nuts?

902
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,780
Adam Curry: I hereby invite any
PBS reporter to come to my vape

903
00:49:03,780 --> 00:49:08,100
shop meetings, because you'd
love them. You'd love to hear

904
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:12,780
the ranchers receivable, I know.
So now it's interesting how we

905
00:49:12,780 --> 00:49:15,300
kind of switched up beats out
just looking at the titles of

906
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:18,960
your clips. So you brought in
the Christian nationalism last

907
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:24,680
time, and CBS and that was, I
think, NPR CBS did a series, you

908
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:29,300
know, the little report. And it
sounded to me like they're

909
00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:34,880
actually trying to get the non
voting evangelicals out to vote,

910
00:49:35,660 --> 00:49:39,980
which makes no sense, because
that's the whole, you know, as

911
00:49:39,980 --> 00:49:42,700
we've discussed. The whole
problem is that the

912
00:49:42,700 --> 00:49:46,060
evangelicals, the Christians,
the Christian nationalists, they

913
00:49:46,060 --> 00:49:50,320
don't vote. So they do a story
where they say, Hey, these guys

914
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,040
don't vote

915
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,920
Unknown: under a massive circus
tent in Eau Claire, Wisconsin,

916
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,540
Lance wall now is the ringleader
preaching Christian nationalism

917
00:49:58,540 --> 00:50:02,040
and political activism to. A
rapturous following. Rapturous,

918
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,180
Adam Curry: a rapture,
rapturous. I missed that the

919
00:50:06,180 --> 00:50:09,480
first time I heard it, a
rapturous following. Unless you

920
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,240
learn how to mobilize and how to
move in at

921
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:16,200
Unknown: a local level, then
you're letting the devil

922
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,400
dominate your culture, while now
68 is a business consultant,

923
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,600
self proclaimed Prophet and
firebrand influencer in the

924
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,420
growing charismatic Christian
movement. Oh, wow.

925
00:50:26,420 --> 00:50:29,540
Adam Curry: What I want that on
my business card. Fire brand.

926
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,180
John C Dvorak: Just put it on
fire brand. Fire brand.

927
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:36,020
Unknown: He views Trump as a
once in 1000 years figure,

928
00:50:36,140 --> 00:50:41,200
flawed yet divinely chosen to
navigate chaotic times. I caught

929
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,360
that idea in 2015 when I first
met Trump, and I got a lot of

930
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,060
pushback after he got elected,
because they were searching

931
00:50:49,060 --> 00:50:52,180
around for how, why did the How
could the Evangelicals justify

932
00:50:52,180 --> 00:50:56,560
voting for some, you know,
barbaric character like Trump

933
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,560
and they're hypocrites that they
are well now admits that Trump

934
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,880
twice divorced and roundly
accused of other moral failings

935
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,840
does not align with traditional
evangelical expectations. I

936
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,180
said, Listen, give the guy some
time. He doesn't know who we

937
00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:12,300
are, but his values resonate
with our community. God's

938
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:16,680
raising up an outsider, while
now headlines the so called

939
00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:20,040
courage tour, a religious road
show that aims to mobilize

940
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,600
religious conservatives to vote
and serve as election workers in

941
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,740
key counties.

942
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,500
Adam Curry: So that's just the
setup. But then we get closer

943
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:29,180
into it, and I really think

944
00:51:29,180 --> 00:51:32,300
John C Dvorak: CBS so the
reporter is Major Garrett. Yes,

945
00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:38,540
that's who that is. And he is
kind of on the fence. He used to

946
00:51:38,540 --> 00:51:41,840
be his fox, and he's always been
on the fence with Trump, because

947
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,900
Trump because Trump is calling
out as a douchebag

948
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:47,080
Adam Curry: more than one Good
point, good point. So we should

949
00:51:47,140 --> 00:51:49,840
keep that in mind. Well, it
doesn't matter. It still has to

950
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,400
go through the CIA broadcast
systems or the editors. Yeah,

951
00:51:54,460 --> 00:51:54,700
and

952
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:57,880
Unknown: Trump evangelicals
don't see an abrasive, thrice

953
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,440
married billionaire. They do see
an anti establishment leader,

954
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,280
strong on abortion, gender
issues and Israel. I

955
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,000
want people to vote because he
stands for something. Jackie

956
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:09,540
Brokaw

957
00:52:09,540 --> 00:52:12,660
lives in Wisconsin and attended
the courage to her with her

958
00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:13,260
brother.

959
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,620
The number of Christians that
are in this area, if they would

960
00:52:16,620 --> 00:52:19,260
vote, they could swing this
county, which would probably

961
00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:20,540
swing the rest of the state

962
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:26,840
we are seeing here today is the
most targeted and tactical voter

963
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,020
mobilization effort done by
Christian nationalists ever.

964
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,320
Matthew Taylor has written
extensively about this new form

965
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,340
of religious activism that fuses
political outcomes with divine

966
00:52:37,340 --> 00:52:40,840
intervention. What is the
political import possibly, in

967
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,640
the 2024 election of events like
this. Well, if Trump wins, then

968
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,060
that becomes a part of the
impetus that Donald Trump can

969
00:52:49,060 --> 00:52:51,520
say, I don't just have a
democratic mandate. I have a

970
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:56,560
divine mandate to change the
country in accordance with the

971
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,860
biblical values that these folks
claim to have.

972
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:02,460
Adam Curry: Yeah, Trump's gonna
be, yeah, that's right, God. God

973
00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:05,880
did it for me. And here comes
the final, the final pitch, I

974
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,200
think, from Major Garrett.

975
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,680
Unknown: January 6 was not an
insurrection, it was an election

976
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,720
fraud intervention. 2020,
election denialism is core to

977
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:19,380
wall now's world view, and the
terminology at his revivals is

978
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,720
apocalyptic. It's not us that's
dangerous. It's them describing

979
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:27,860
a spiritual battle between pious
believers and demons who speak

980
00:53:27,860 --> 00:53:31,160
through Democrats or liberals.
Yes, it's not just the person,

981
00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:35,180
spiritual force, demonic or
demonic? Yeah, they can

982
00:53:35,180 --> 00:53:38,960
influence people with bodies. He
believes hyper focused Christian

983
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,060
political energy can overcome
those perceived obstacles, the

984
00:53:43,060 --> 00:53:45,940
tendency to just look at
elections, pray about them, eat

985
00:53:45,940 --> 00:53:49,480
popcorn, watch the result and
then go to bed, is over.

986
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,120
Christians as believers probably
should be engaged in this

987
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,380
process of shaping culture far
more aggressively and

988
00:53:56,380 --> 00:53:59,980
intentionally from now on, as
for their impact on the

989
00:53:59,980 --> 00:54:06,240
election, God only knows, major
carrot in Eau Claire, Wisconsin.

990
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,700
Adam Curry: So, so that is he
literally is, is helping the

991
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:13,620
message. It's better than maybe

992
00:54:13,620 --> 00:54:16,920
John C Dvorak: again, the CIA we
have talked about this on and

993
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,100
off and on and off, which is it
possible they really want Trump

994
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:23,240
to win, yeah, and the whole
thing is just a smoke screen

995
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:26,300
for, like, trying to get Trump
to win somehow.

996
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,840
Adam Curry: Well, this report
felt like it, and I can tell you

997
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,380
that churches around like it
too. Churches around America are

998
00:54:33,380 --> 00:54:35,720
speaking like this. I don't know
if you want to call them

999
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:39,200
Christian nationalism,
nationalists or extremists, but

1000
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,040
that that there's a, there's a
big movement out there trying to

1001
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,000
do exactly this, and CBS just
helped. Very interesting.

1002
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:49,720
Meanwhile, back at the ranch,
Anderson Cooper brought out a

1003
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:51,340
whopper of lies. We begin

1004
00:54:51,340 --> 00:54:53,260
John C Dvorak: tonight with the
former president, campaign

1005
00:54:53,260 --> 00:54:57,580
politics, his legal troubles and
lies. He finished his day in

1006
00:54:57,580 --> 00:55:00,300
Charlotte, North Carolina, where
the Fraternal Order of. Police

1007
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:03,120
endorsed him, and he had this to
say about a violent attack on

1008
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,440
Nancy Pelosi husband.

1009
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,140
Unknown: You know that Nancy
Pelosi is a big wall wrapped

1010
00:55:07,140 --> 00:55:12,060
around her house. Of course, it
didn't help too much with the

1011
00:55:12,060 --> 00:55:12,720
problem she

1012
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,940
John C Dvorak: had. That is
that's the former president

1013
00:55:14,940 --> 00:55:17,520
speaking to members of law
enforcement making light the

1014
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,540
first time I should point out of
the violent attack against Paul

1015
00:55:20,540 --> 00:55:24,140
Pelosi, a home invader, beat Mr.
Pelosi with a sledgehammer and

1016
00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:32,000
fractured his skull. What
sledgehammer? Sledgehammer we

1017
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,300
saw the video. He's holding a
regular claw hammer,

1018
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,740
Adam Curry: sledgehammer. I

1019
00:55:36,740 --> 00:55:38,240
John C Dvorak: love we all saw
it

1020
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,640
Adam Curry: like, okay, pooper,
a sledgehammer, no less. Gotcha.

1021
00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:50,080
Hey, by the way, the Fraternal
Order of Police. Are those the

1022
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,660
guys that always call me asking
for money.

1023
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,400
John C Dvorak: Sometimes they
call. I mean, nowadays they have

1024
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,140
this new guy. They have a new
with with the big, heavy voice.

1025
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,880
Hey, the guy with the big voice,
which is a AI voice, oh, and

1026
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,660
he's, it's an AI character, and
which is easy to hang up on,

1027
00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:11,400
because you don't have to make
an excuse.

1028
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,500
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're right.
And yes, you're right. It is an

1029
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:13,680
AI.

1030
00:56:13,740 --> 00:56:15,720
John C Dvorak: It's an AI guy
says, Hi, how you doing? You

1031
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:17,940
know, this is a nightclub. Don't
hang up because, oh and he

1032
00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:21,260
laughs about something, and he
but he has a voice. He has that

1033
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:22,700
beautiful voice.

1034
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:25,340
Adam Curry: This is Sergeant
Pete from the Fraternal Order of

1035
00:56:25,340 --> 00:56:30,140
Police. Are you interested in in
protecting police? It's, yeah,

1036
00:56:30,140 --> 00:56:30,320
he's

1037
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,140
John C Dvorak: got this guy's
got a great voice, yeah. And

1038
00:56:33,140 --> 00:56:37,100
it's, it comes up, I get that
call about once every couple

1039
00:56:37,220 --> 00:56:39,860
months. Yeah, a couple of
months, I get it too. And it's

1040
00:56:39,860 --> 00:56:43,480
the same guy, it's the same
voice, and now it's an AI. So

1041
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,380
it's not it's and it interacts.
It's interactive AI, so you can

1042
00:56:47,380 --> 00:56:51,100
say something to it, except Are
you an AI voice? And then you

1043
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:55,960
hear the thing going to a stall
as it tries to dredge up an

1044
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:02,280
answer to that. Or they got to
fix this. Because if you're

1045
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,480
gonna do that, they gotta come
up with a quicker response,

1046
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:11,580
yeah. Because every time you
call it out as a robot or AI, it

1047
00:57:11,580 --> 00:57:16,500
goes into a long loop, and then
it comes back with, oh, no, I'm

1048
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:22,880
not AI. I'm a real person. It's
terrible. It is terrible. And

1049
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,700
it's so easy to spot and very
easy to hang out.

1050
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:30,800
Adam Curry: I'm not a I, yeah,
so I want to call out the the

1051
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:36,620
press on all sides about this
bull crap Dick Cheney

1052
00:57:36,620 --> 00:57:40,540
endorsement. You think that Dick
Cheney was out there with his

1053
00:57:40,540 --> 00:57:44,740
heart in his in his shoulder
bag, which he has, he has that

1054
00:57:44,740 --> 00:57:47,620
battery powered thing that keeps
his heart going. If he still

1055
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:48,400
Yeah,

1056
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,560
John C Dvorak: he's got, yeah,
he has a heart. But Amazing how

1057
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,700
long this guy can live.

1058
00:57:52,060 --> 00:57:55,000
Adam Curry: But it wasn't Dick
Cheney. He didn't come out and

1059
00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:02,700
say that. Oh, this happened in
Texas at the what was this? The

1060
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,940
Texas Tribune interview of his
daughter,

1061
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,660
Unknown: Dick Cheney. Your
father, a beloved figure among

1062
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:16,440
Democrats for many, many years.
Do you if you know who he will

1063
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,360
be supporting or who he'll be
voting for? Do

1064
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:19,560
you care to share with us who

1065
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,200
he might be voting for Dick

1066
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,300
Cheney will be voting for Kamala
Harris.

1067
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,400
Adam Curry: That's the extent of
the so called Dick Cheney

1068
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,480
endorsement. I

1069
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,160
John C Dvorak: thought that. I
thought there was a press

1070
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,220
release that came out from Dick
Cheney saying he would support

1071
00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:34,940
Kamala. Well, I

1072
00:58:34,940 --> 00:58:37,040
Adam Curry: haven't seen it.
I've only, I've only seen

1073
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,060
headlines

1074
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:39,380
John C Dvorak: wheat maybe,
yeah,

1075
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,000
Adam Curry: you're on. People
are calling for an intervention

1076
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:49,000
of your your your ex, your ex
usage. They're very concerned.

1077
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,160
John C Dvorak: As long as my
numbers go up, and they have

1078
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,940
been going up, I'm keeping it
up. This is good for the show.

1079
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,620
Adam Curry: So, you know, we

1080
00:58:59,620 --> 00:59:01,620
John C Dvorak: all come on
there's funny stuff in there.

1081
00:59:01,620 --> 00:59:03,420
Adam Curry: Yeah, there is funny
stuff. We're just worried that

1082
00:59:03,420 --> 00:59:06,420
you're too caught up in it.
People love you, John, that's

1083
00:59:06,420 --> 00:59:09,960
why, no, just want to make sure
you're okay. Blink twice.

1084
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,860
John C Dvorak: So we handle it.
We anyway.

1085
00:59:13,860 --> 00:59:18,420
Adam Curry: So we finished the
whole series of Veep with Julia

1086
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:21,560
Louis Dreyfus, and I've been
looking at all these parallels

1087
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,940
with Kamala Harris, and there
was a, there was, near the end,

1088
00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:29,660
she's doing this negotiation
with the Chinese, and it turns

1089
00:59:29,660 --> 00:59:33,800
out the campaign manager she
hired is, you know, is working

1090
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,220
for the Chinese, and they kill
her ex husband. And so this

1091
00:59:37,220 --> 00:59:40,780
throughout the thread of the
entire, you know, back end of

1092
00:59:40,780 --> 00:59:46,000
the series, her PR guy, stupid
Mike, who is stupid. He's trying

1093
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,320
to adopt a kid from China, and
they're at Camp David, when she

1094
00:59:50,380 --> 00:59:54,160
becomes she's temporarily
president, and she pisses off

1095
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,040
the Chinese. And then all of a
sudden, you know, the Chinese

1096
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,260
say, Oh, we've now stopped all
adopt. Options of children from

1097
01:00:01,260 --> 01:00:05,100
China, and then this which,
well, this story pops

1098
01:00:05,220 --> 01:00:06,060
John C Dvorak: Today,

1099
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,780
Unknown: China says it is ending
most foreign adoptions of

1100
01:00:09,780 --> 01:00:12,360
Chinese children. The
announcement puts hundreds of

1101
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,400
American and other foreign
families with pending

1102
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,060
application, their adoptions in
limbo. The only exceptions would

1103
01:00:18,060 --> 01:00:21,080
be for foreigners adopting the
children or stepchildren of

1104
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,680
blood relatives in China. Since
the early 90s, the country has

1105
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,160
sent 10s of 1000s of adoptees
overseas, with about half

1106
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,400
arriving in the US. For decades,
China only allowed couples to

1107
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,460
have one child, forcing many
families to put their children

1108
01:00:34,460 --> 01:00:38,060
up for adoption, but to slow
down a falling birth rate, the

1109
01:00:38,060 --> 01:00:39,860
government reverse policy?

1110
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,760
Adam Curry: No, I don't think
so. I think that this is a

1111
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,300
couple of days ago, by the way,
yeah, I know it's retaliation

1112
01:00:46,300 --> 01:00:48,220
today, huh? Yeah,

1113
01:00:48,340 --> 01:00:50,500
John C Dvorak: okay, I'm just
getting the timeline Correct.

1114
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:50,740
Thank

1115
01:00:50,740 --> 01:00:54,040
Adam Curry: you. It's
retaliation. They don't want

1116
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,540
whatever Carmel is doing with
China. They don't like it, which

1117
01:00:58,540 --> 01:00:59,560
could be,

1118
01:00:59,860 --> 01:01:02,940
John C Dvorak: by the way, you
you kind of, I think you may be

1119
01:01:02,940 --> 01:01:06,540
light hearted when you say that,
but I two people are trying to

1120
01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:11,460
adopt kids. You might be right.
Well, it really upsets. I mean,

1121
01:01:11,460 --> 01:01:15,420
people who are into adopting
kids because, for one reason or

1122
01:01:15,420 --> 01:01:17,520
another, because they can't have
kids they have to adopt. Are

1123
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:22,700
they like kids? No, seriously,
yeah, they will. This is cutting

1124
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:26,120
off one a stream of possible
kids that they can raise

1125
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:31,040
Adam Curry: a stream of kids.
Well, it could be because of the

1126
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:33,740
export controls that were
announced. You heard about this?

1127
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:38,540
I'm not sure. Well, it's from
NTD. So you know, when it's

1128
01:01:38,540 --> 01:01:42,820
about China, it must be true.
Must be true, and it also hits

1129
01:01:42,820 --> 01:01:44,680
on another one of my favorite
topics.

1130
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,440
Unknown: Washington has a new
plan for stemming the flow of

1131
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,800
advanced microchips to Beijing.
The Commerce Department came out

1132
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,040
with new rules Thursday. From
now on, companies looking to

1133
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,160
export technology and tools
related to quantum computing

1134
01:01:57,220 --> 01:01:59,500
have to apply for export
licenses

1135
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,360
Adam Curry: quantum computing.
You don't say, Are we pivoting?

1136
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,120
Unknown: The new restrictions
are meant to prevent Beijing

1137
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,540
from using that technology to
advance its own military

1138
01:02:09,780 --> 01:02:13,260
semiconductors are critical to
military power as they're

1139
01:02:13,260 --> 01:02:16,860
required for the most advanced
weapons and equipment. The

1140
01:02:16,860 --> 01:02:20,360
guidelines didn't name China,
but they expand similar

1141
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,480
restrictions that the US
previously put in place. The

1142
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,620
rules are effective immediately.
The expert controls cover a

1143
01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:30,920
number of things, quantum
computing, items, advanced tools

1144
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,340
for making microchips and a
piece of key technology used in

1145
01:02:34,340 --> 01:02:38,180
chips for supercomputers.
Samsung has started using this

1146
01:02:38,180 --> 01:02:41,680
technology to make one of the
globe's most advanced chips,

1147
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,400
though, there are exemptions,
friendly countries like Japan

1148
01:02:45,460 --> 01:02:49,120
already have their own export
controls, so entities in those

1149
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,480
countries are not subject to the
new US export controls.

1150
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,500
Washington's new action comes
after China found new ways to

1151
01:02:56,500 --> 01:02:57,940
get around restrictions

1152
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,100
Adam Curry: so quantum computing
no longer AI, which I found

1153
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:06,780
interesting. Now that NVIDIA is
crashing, I know it's up 100%

1154
01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:10,020
over year over year, but still,
it's bringing down the whole

1155
01:03:10,020 --> 01:03:14,940
market. And they've coerced,
they've coerced the Dutch into

1156
01:03:14,940 --> 01:03:19,020
this, like, Hey, you ASML Dutch
guys, you're not going to

1157
01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:22,820
export, right? Because, you
know, quantum computing is

1158
01:03:22,820 --> 01:03:24,740
important for advanced weaponry.
The US

1159
01:03:24,740 --> 01:03:27,260
Unknown: previously banned
Chinese companies from getting

1160
01:03:27,260 --> 01:03:31,340
their hands on certain powerful
AI chips, but some Chinese firms

1161
01:03:31,340 --> 01:03:34,460
have been able to utilize
computing power generated from

1162
01:03:34,460 --> 01:03:37,760
these chips with a workaround by
using us cloud computing

1163
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,600
companies like Amazon, web
services, the Commerce

1164
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,900
Department said it expects to
see similar export restrictions

1165
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:46,900
from friendly countries. The
Netherlands is following

1166
01:03:46,900 --> 01:03:49,660
Washington's footsteps. The
country is home to the world's

1167
01:03:49,660 --> 01:03:53,560
leading supply of microchip
producing equipment, ASML, the

1168
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,400
gear allows companies to mass
produce advanced chips. On

1169
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,480
Friday, the Dutch government
said it would expand export

1170
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,380
licensing requirements for some
of ASML chip making equipment.

1171
01:04:04,380 --> 01:04:05,340
Yeah,

1172
01:04:05,340 --> 01:04:09,420
Adam Curry: that's right. Shut
up. Duchies do what we say. I

1173
01:04:09,420 --> 01:04:12,600
just thought it was interesting
that you know, you you ban the

1174
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,920
supply of kids from China right
around the same time that you

1175
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,660
put export restrictions on
quantum computing chips. Is

1176
01:04:20,660 --> 01:04:25,160
quantum computing really one
chip. All I see is, nobody knows

1177
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,520
what it is, obviously these
spaceship things that you see,

1178
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:33,140
Google quantum wish it was one
chip that worked, yeah, of

1179
01:04:33,140 --> 01:04:36,920
course it's not. Yeah. That
worked, exactly the work

1180
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,100
John C Dvorak: that that worked.
The word worked, yeah is the key

1181
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:43,780
here. I'd love to know we've
been bullshitted into thinking

1182
01:04:43,780 --> 01:04:47,560
it does well, I'm extremely
scared. I mean, you may be

1183
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:52,600
skeptical by AI, totally the
quantum computing is a non

1184
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:53,380
starter. Just

1185
01:04:53,380 --> 01:04:57,340
Adam Curry: as skeptical of of
of quantum as I am of AI, my

1186
01:04:57,340 --> 01:05:03,000
question is, who I. These are
first. Who is making these so

1187
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,820
called Quantum chips? What
company?

1188
01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:10,980
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
They've kind of hinted Samsung's

1189
01:05:10,980 --> 01:05:13,860
got something to do with this,
although that same assertion

1190
01:05:13,860 --> 01:05:18,060
about Samsung could apply to AI
chips the way they said, it was

1191
01:05:18,060 --> 01:05:19,620
vague. It's vague.

1192
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,060
Adam Curry: I'm just going to
stick with the technology for a

1193
01:05:23,060 --> 01:05:26,660
moment. We have a lot of dudes
named Ben out there and dudettes

1194
01:05:26,660 --> 01:05:30,980
named Bernadette, who maintain
many systems of the windows

1195
01:05:30,980 --> 01:05:37,220
variety. This goes back to the
CrowdStrike bug that brought

1196
01:05:37,220 --> 01:05:40,660
down the entire world for a
little bit, stopped hospitals

1197
01:05:40,660 --> 01:05:44,380
from operating, stopped airlines
from flying, except for

1198
01:05:44,380 --> 01:05:50,500
Southwest the team over at the
pirate software podcast had an

1199
01:05:50,500 --> 01:05:53,740
interesting deconstruction,
which I'd like to know if you

1200
01:05:53,860 --> 01:05:56,860
saw this happen, and you can
probably go back in the logs and

1201
01:05:56,860 --> 01:05:59,860
check within your own IT
infrastructure. So the

1202
01:05:59,860 --> 01:06:00,840
interesting

1203
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,760
Unknown: thing that I'm kind of
waiting on right now is you have

1204
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,700
windows and you have CrowdStrike
right initially, I believe that

1205
01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:07,860
CrowdStrike is at fault for
this, and the reason why is

1206
01:06:07,860 --> 01:06:11,820
because CrowdStrike pushed an
update and then everything broke

1207
01:06:11,820 --> 01:06:14,400
in Windows because this update
was in place only for

1208
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,700
CrowdStrike related machines.
But it's not that simple.

1209
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,840
Windows pushed an update and
CrowdStrike pushed an update and

1210
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,360
everything was fine, and
apparently Windows has then

1211
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:27,620
pushed another update and then
everything broke. Now, the

1212
01:06:27,620 --> 01:06:31,160
interesting part about this is
that the machines were fine

1213
01:06:31,220 --> 01:06:33,980
initially under this
configuration, and Windows

1214
01:06:33,980 --> 01:06:36,800
changing that configuration
caused this problem to occur,

1215
01:06:37,340 --> 01:06:40,360
which then leads into a really
weird legal territory, which is,

1216
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,840
Whose fault is this? Is it
Windows fault because they

1217
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,060
changed that configuration?
Should they have changed that

1218
01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:48,760
configuration? Or is it
crowdstrikes fault because it

1219
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,700
caused the system to die under
that configuration that wasn't

1220
01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:54,880
the initial one that they pushed
that update on? Usually inside

1221
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,640
of the tech space, we would
blame the individualized

1222
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,360
program, not the operating
system. The operating system

1223
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:04,020
would not be at fault here, but
legally speaking, we don't know.

1224
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:07,560
Adam Curry: So I thought this
was fascinating. I It happened

1225
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,280
on a Friday, which is not
typical for a Windows Update.

1226
01:07:11,460 --> 01:07:11,640
No,

1227
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,380
John C Dvorak: they always
happen on Tuesdays. And the

1228
01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:17,700
thing is, I I'm finding peculiar
that he keeps saying Windows

1229
01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:18,180
instead of

1230
01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:21,920
Adam Curry: Microsoft. Yeah, I
didn't like that either. But

1231
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,920
Windows is not a company, but
that, that could just be

1232
01:07:25,700 --> 01:07:31,880
semantics. So what he's saying
is that Windows pushed an

1233
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:36,200
update, CrowdStrike pushed an
update, and everything was fine,

1234
01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:39,380
but then Windows pushing up, and
remember, we had that Azure

1235
01:07:39,380 --> 01:07:43,060
outage, which was really odd. We
don't quite understand the

1236
01:07:43,060 --> 01:07:46,420
timing of that, which you would
think is Windows machines. Who

1237
01:07:46,420 --> 01:07:50,020
knows? It's probably all running
Linux. Remember Hotmail was

1238
01:07:50,020 --> 01:07:51,220
running on Linux. Remember

1239
01:07:53,380 --> 01:07:55,480
John C Dvorak: that Microsoft
bought and it's, oh, my God, we

1240
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:56,800
got to recode the whole thing.

1241
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,300
Unknown: Got to put it on NT.

1242
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,000
Adam Curry: So I'd like to know
our dude's name, Ben out there.

1243
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,180
Let me know if you have any
evidence that that happens,

1244
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:12,720
because that would change some
potential liability or not. It's

1245
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,460
EULAs, you know or not.

1246
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,420
John C Dvorak: No, I haven't
heard that particular I like the

1247
01:08:18,420 --> 01:08:21,080
idea about So, what did else do
these guys talk about should

1248
01:08:21,140 --> 01:08:23,660
listen to this podcast. It's

1249
01:08:23,660 --> 01:08:26,660
Adam Curry: a little it's a
little tedious, you know,

1250
01:08:26,780 --> 01:08:29,000
because it's four guys, and
they're yucking it up, and

1251
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,740
they're all talking together,
and they're drawn on

1252
01:08:30,740 --> 01:08:38,180
whiteboards, and it's the pirate
software podcast. Now, good

1253
01:08:38,180 --> 01:08:40,360
guys. I like them. I like them.
I like what they did there.

1254
01:08:41,979 --> 01:08:47,139
John C Dvorak: All right, let's
see what we got here. Let's go

1255
01:08:47,139 --> 01:08:50,679
with you. Just brought this up.
You brought up the issue of the

1256
01:08:50,679 --> 01:08:53,979
Chinese adoption. So might as
well go to the A series that was

1257
01:08:53,979 --> 01:08:58,419
done on PBS fixie, an exposition
on family planning that I

1258
01:08:58,419 --> 01:09:00,779
thought was kind of interesting
with the because it has a

1259
01:09:00,779 --> 01:09:01,979
kicker. Last

1260
01:09:01,980 --> 01:09:05,580
Unknown: year, the US birth rate
hit a record low, but data

1261
01:09:05,580 --> 01:09:08,760
suggests that over the past 30
years, the number of adults who

1262
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,300
want or wish they had children
has remained relatively stable.

1263
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:15,180
So why aren't they having
children or expanding their

1264
01:09:15,180 --> 01:09:18,360
families? Ali Rogin explores
some of the complexities of

1265
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:19,800
today's family planning.

1266
01:09:19,859 --> 01:09:23,059
Over the past few weeks, we've
been speaking with Americans who

1267
01:09:23,059 --> 01:09:26,599
say they want to have a child or
grow their families about why

1268
01:09:26,599 --> 01:09:30,499
they're hesitant to do so. Their
answers were varied and complex,

1269
01:09:30,619 --> 01:09:33,319
just like the solutions they
said would help them change

1270
01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:34,159
their minds,

1271
01:09:34,700 --> 01:09:35,960
Adam Curry: grow your family.

1272
01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:38,780
John C Dvorak: Reminds me, I
stopped it here thinking, well,

1273
01:09:38,780 --> 01:09:41,380
this might be an interesting
report. Then it turns out that

1274
01:09:41,380 --> 01:09:46,360
you should listen and listen and
listen. It is just a pro. It's a

1275
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,520
Kamala Harris promotional piece.

1276
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:49,300
Unknown: Of course, I

1277
01:09:49,300 --> 01:09:52,240
always wanted kids I love before
you

1278
01:09:52,300 --> 01:09:57,580
John C Dvorak: play this second
part. It cuts into interviews

1279
01:09:57,580 --> 01:10:00,360
with just a random they have a
person. Then. Say, boy, they

1280
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,940
don't like having kids, and then
another person, they just one

1281
01:10:02,940 --> 01:10:05,640
after the other, after the
other, after the other. And you

1282
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:10,920
can start to hear the Kamala
Harris promotion within the what

1283
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,860
these people are complaining
about. Not everyone, by the way,

1284
01:10:13,860 --> 01:10:16,860
look like they ever I'm sorry,
none of them look like they want

1285
01:10:16,860 --> 01:10:19,860
to have kids anyway. But okay, I
always

1286
01:10:19,860 --> 01:10:23,780
Unknown: wanted kids. I love
kids, but economically, I don't

1287
01:10:23,780 --> 01:10:26,720
really know of anyone who can
swing it anymore, even parents

1288
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,320
that are working full time, they
can't afford childcare. They

1289
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,720
don't have a village to help
them raise them.

1290
01:10:33,020 --> 01:10:35,240
I'm grateful that we are in
like, a stable financial

1291
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:40,040
situation. Still, it's difficult
to raise a child. We don't have

1292
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,600
any family close by. We have
friends who also have kids. Is

1293
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,000
Adam Curry: she Chinese? Is
this? Is this a Chinese lady?

1294
01:10:46,180 --> 01:10:47,440
She was Spanish. Oh,

1295
01:10:47,620 --> 01:10:50,800
Unknown: so they are also busy
taking care of their families.

1296
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,680
It's difficult. We don't we
don't have anyone. Every

1297
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,740
year there comes out a new
statistic of whether or not

1298
01:10:56,740 --> 01:10:59,140
we've hit the turning point for
climate change, and that's

1299
01:10:59,140 --> 01:11:02,520
something that I take into
consideration when it comes to

1300
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,760
starting a family, because I
don't want to raise a child in a

1301
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,700
world that every year gets
closer and closer to becoming

1302
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,040
uninhabitable. So

1303
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,740
Adam Curry: Kamala Harris,
climate change, okay, you better

1304
01:11:16,740 --> 01:11:17,820
bring it home in the kicker.

1305
01:11:19,020 --> 01:11:20,540
John C Dvorak: Well, let's bring
it home in the

1306
01:11:20,540 --> 01:11:23,780
Unknown: kicker, if universal
child care was an option and we

1307
01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:27,860
didn't have to worry about that,
if universal health care was an

1308
01:11:27,860 --> 01:11:31,280
option, and, you know, I
wouldn't have to wonder if I can

1309
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:36,500
anticipate, you know, regular
maternal care, high quality

1310
01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:38,960
maternal care while I was
pregnant, then, yeah, we

1311
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,940
absolutely would have made an
effort to expand our family, for

1312
01:11:42,940 --> 01:11:43,300
sure?

1313
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,260
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. Because,
of course, that's the 6000

1314
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:47,800
that's

1315
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,380
John C Dvorak: exactly two main
things. Is, you know, having

1316
01:11:50,380 --> 01:11:53,320
universal child care, because
you can't keep care of your own

1317
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,660
child, so you have to have
somebody else. You want the

1318
01:11:55,660 --> 01:11:57,880
government to take care of your
child, and you want the

1319
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,400
government to take over the
medical system. So there you go.

1320
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,660
There's, that's the camel. It
went on. And if you if I played

1321
01:12:03,660 --> 01:12:06,120
the whole thing, you start to
hear it. No, I

1322
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:10,560
Adam Curry: heard it's all about
sense. And you know, Sir Brian

1323
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,220
Baron of the Connecticut River
Valley, he went searching for

1324
01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:20,600
the 19 million new business
applications. Ah, which I love,

1325
01:12:20,660 --> 01:12:24,620
because, you know, that's what
time talent treasure is all

1326
01:12:24,620 --> 01:12:27,860
about. Yeah, totally, we have
the best producers in the

1327
01:12:27,860 --> 01:12:31,820
universe. He says, Ah, I found
it. The so called new business

1328
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:37,760
application in the 19 million
claim is filing a Form SS four

1329
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,560
to obtain an employer
identification number from the

1330
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:46,780
IRS, of which, of course, you
know, 10 million will probably

1331
01:12:46,780 --> 01:12:51,820
never do anything with it. Oh,
so it's a little special,

1332
01:12:51,820 --> 01:12:55,000
John C Dvorak: good catch. Yeah,
congratulations on that. Yeah,

1333
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,420
Adam Curry: which I thought was
a very good catch. Yeah, more

1334
01:12:58,420 --> 01:13:04,500
Bs, and that's not exactly a new
business filing. But okay, we'll

1335
01:13:04,500 --> 01:13:10,140
take it. We'll take it. Brought
up climate change. Do

1336
01:13:10,140 --> 01:13:12,480
John C Dvorak: you mind if I
good I got some climate change

1337
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:13,680
clips. I'll start it off with

1338
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,300
Adam Curry: the latest climate
change. This

1339
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:18,240
Unknown: is what Asia's most
powerful storm so far this year

1340
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,800
looks like, maximum sustained
winds in excess of 230

1341
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,300
kilometers per hour, battered
southern China, damaging

1342
01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:30,140
everything in its path, from
buildings to trees, at least two

1343
01:13:30,140 --> 01:13:33,200
people were killed and dozens
injured in Hainan province,

1344
01:13:33,620 --> 01:13:37,100
hundreds of 1000s of homes were
left without power. Transport

1345
01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:41,080
links were suspended, schools
closed and millions of people

1346
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,860
were told to avoid going out.
Yagi has doubled in strength

1347
01:13:44,860 --> 01:13:47,980
from tropical storm to super
typhoon since it hit the

1348
01:13:47,980 --> 01:13:51,400
Philippines earlier this week,
killing more than a dozen people

1349
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,820
there a super typhoon has the
same damaging effects as a

1350
01:13:54,820 --> 01:13:59,560
category five hurricane. China,
Vietnam and Laos are all in its

1351
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,180
path. Scientists say Typhoons
are becoming stronger and more

1352
01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:05,820
frequent as a result of warmer
ocean temperatures,

1353
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,180
due to climate change, due to
climate change. There

1354
01:14:09,180 --> 01:14:11,880
Adam Curry: it is, due to
climate change. It's all climate

1355
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:16,440
change. Everything is climate
change. It's all climate change.

1356
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:20,660
You know, of course, we have
some kind I've

1357
01:14:20,660 --> 01:14:24,680
John C Dvorak: never had a super
typhoon before. I was in Taiwan

1358
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,860
once during a typhoon. It was
interesting.

1359
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,040
Adam Curry: Okay, John, so

1360
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,040
John C Dvorak: I went to a to a
department store who would do

1361
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,580
some shopping, and as this thing
was coming in before I get back

1362
01:14:37,580 --> 01:14:40,640
to the hotel, and I've never had
this quite this experience

1363
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,960
before, but it started raining.
So you couldn't it was like, the

1364
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:48,820
rain was like, it's like a like,
a Deep Fog. You couldn't see

1365
01:14:48,820 --> 01:14:52,240
five feet in front of you and
you, but you had to make a run

1366
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:57,700
for it to get to a taxi to get
out of there. And one step, I

1367
01:14:57,700 --> 01:15:02,100
can still remember this one step
into. It to get out of the store

1368
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:09,300
soaked from head to foot in like
one second, shoes ruined just

1369
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,840
instantly. And it's just quite
fascinating to get that wet that

1370
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,300
fast. It's like jumping into a
pool. And did people

1371
01:15:15,300 --> 01:15:17,760
Adam Curry: point at you and
say, due to climate change?

1372
01:15:17,820 --> 01:15:19,860
John C Dvorak: No, everybody
Yes. They always say, climate

1373
01:15:19,860 --> 01:15:22,520
change. A lot of broken
umbrellas. Let's put it that

1374
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:22,640
way.

1375
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:29,060
Adam Curry: Oh, that'll happen.
So I guess the western part of

1376
01:15:29,060 --> 01:15:32,420
the southwestern part of the
United States, we got Arizona.

1377
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,260
We have Los Angeles, the heat
dome moved over there, also

1378
01:15:36,260 --> 01:15:40,660
known as summer in Texas. In
Texas, it's been written. How

1379
01:15:40,660 --> 01:15:43,540
about that? We were, we've been
in Mexico. It's been pretty.

1380
01:15:43,540 --> 01:15:47,380
It's very humid, but it's been
84 degrees. You know, it's nice.

1381
01:15:47,380 --> 01:15:54,400
It's beautiful Hawaii weather,
yeah, and a Texas, 7274 rain,

1382
01:15:54,400 --> 01:16:01,500
cold for Texas, for the hill
country, the heart of Texas. So

1383
01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:04,860
I don't know how the averages
work, but you've obviously got

1384
01:16:04,860 --> 01:16:05,820
to know it's the

1385
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,360
Unknown: hottest year on record,
likely to hit 108 degrees today

1386
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,560
in Phoenix Arizona tomorrow and
the next day. Nothing.

1387
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,360
Adam Curry: It's that's, that's
low for Phoenix Arizona. Phoenix

1388
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:24,200
John C Dvorak: Arizona, in the
summer like now, and it's, it's

1389
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,340
unbelievably hot, and it would,
yeah, you can't even get back

1390
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,700
into your car if you, if you
have to leave it outside, you

1391
01:16:31,700 --> 01:16:34,580
can't get back into it. You have
to take your key. You have to

1392
01:16:34,580 --> 01:16:37,880
try to open the door with like,
a napkin or so. You have need

1393
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,080
something, because you burn your
hand on the door handle. You get

1394
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,920
the door open, you you reach and
turn your put the key into the

1395
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,620
ignition. Anyone in Arizona
knows this, put the key in

1396
01:16:47,620 --> 01:16:51,100
addition to start up the car and
turn on the air conditioner and

1397
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:53,320
wait five to 10 minutes before

1398
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:57,400
Adam Curry: getting in, before
getting in and and this is where

1399
01:16:58,060 --> 01:17:03,540
us being somewhat uh, older, or,
as they say in Mexico, Anejo,

1400
01:17:03,540 --> 01:17:03,720
she's

1401
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,700
John C Dvorak: also the name of
a age tequila. Well,

1402
01:17:08,700 --> 01:17:12,060
Adam Curry: that's why I brought
it up. Anejo aged. We like a

1403
01:17:12,060 --> 01:17:17,160
fine age tequila. We know that
this is nothing new. I've been

1404
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:22,700
to Arizona as a kid. It was hot.
I've been to Nevada. We as kids,

1405
01:17:22,700 --> 01:17:25,640
we went to, I remember our
parents, oh, you're in Vegas. I

1406
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:30,320
don't remember why, but it must
have been nine, so a good 51

1407
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,880
years ago. And we literally did
the old, oh, let's, let's boil

1408
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,540
an egg, let's fry an egg on the
pavement. And it worked. You

1409
01:17:38,540 --> 01:17:43,960
know, it's so anyway, it's
horrible. It's 108 in Phoenix,

1410
01:17:44,020 --> 01:17:44,680
Arizona.

1411
01:17:45,340 --> 01:17:47,560
Unknown: This past Tuesday,
Phoenix officially recorded a

1412
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,060
record breaking 100 straight
days of heat at or above 100

1413
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,780
degrees Fahrenheit. And since
the heat dome over the Southwest

1414
01:17:55,780 --> 01:17:59,200
has not budged, that record is
likely to continue to go up.

1415
01:17:59,620 --> 01:18:04,260
Today will be 104 of one days of
100 degree weather, and more

1416
01:18:04,260 --> 01:18:08,220
than half of those days have
been higher than 110 degrees.

1417
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,460
Record breaking heat in recent
years has also caused a record

1418
01:18:11,460 --> 01:18:15,360
number of heat related injuries,
illnesses and deaths across the

1419
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,840
globe. World Health Organization
estimates that half a million

1420
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,220
people worldwide die from heat
related causes each year here in

1421
01:18:22,220 --> 01:18:24,800
the United States, hospitals
have seen the cut. In the

1422
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,860
country, have seen dramatic
increases in heat injuries like

1423
01:18:27,860 --> 01:18:31,940
severe burns from Sun baked
pavement and metal heat related

1424
01:18:31,940 --> 01:18:34,040
delirium and heat stroke. So

1425
01:18:34,220 --> 01:18:36,980
Adam Curry: obviously, dramatic
increases, the same as saying

1426
01:18:36,980 --> 01:18:40,780
50% increase over what we don't
know. We don't know what the

1427
01:18:40,780 --> 01:18:45,340
baseline is, and we know that
people who burn themselves on

1428
01:18:45,340 --> 01:18:49,420
the pavement are usually drug
addicts who are passing out and

1429
01:18:49,420 --> 01:18:52,720
burning on the pavement. But
doesn't matter. You know you're

1430
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,720
just walking around and you burn
yourself on the pavement. That's

1431
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,640
the impression they give us. But
you

1432
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,300
Unknown: should know what
happens to your body when it

1433
01:19:00,300 --> 01:19:02,700
exposes itself to extreme heat.
What

1434
01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:06,300
Adam Curry: does your body do
when it exposes itself to

1435
01:19:06,300 --> 01:19:07,260
extreme heat? Job,

1436
01:19:07,740 --> 01:19:13,020
John C Dvorak: well, usually the
My body doesn't expose itself. I

1437
01:19:13,020 --> 01:19:22,040
have some some control over it,
and and usually, usually sweats,

1438
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:26,900
maybe, or it decides to go
inside or find some shade. Does

1439
01:19:26,900 --> 01:19:28,640
Adam Curry: your body decide to
do that?

1440
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,820
John C Dvorak: You on its own.
You've got a great

1441
01:19:31,820 --> 01:19:34,940
Unknown: body. The human body
has evolved to maintain a core

1442
01:19:34,940 --> 01:19:38,900
temperature of about 98.6
degrees Fahrenheit, or 37

1443
01:19:39,260 --> 01:19:42,820
degrees Celsius. Our bodies are
built with complex, effective

1444
01:19:42,820 --> 01:19:45,880
temperature regulation systems
to try to help us handle

1445
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,540
variable weather in extreme
heat. Those temperature

1446
01:19:49,540 --> 01:19:53,380
regulation systems are hard at
work. First, your body attempts

1447
01:19:53,380 --> 01:19:57,520
thermal regulation by moving
blood flow outward toward the

1448
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,080
surface of the skin the heart
rate. Quickens blood vessels

1449
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,980
dilate to release heat, the skin
becomes flush, then your body

1450
01:20:04,980 --> 01:20:05,880
begins to sweat. Oh,

1451
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,760
Adam Curry: wow. This he's
explaining sweating. This is

1452
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:09,240
great.

1453
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,820
John C Dvorak: What kind of
morons listen to this MSNBC

1454
01:20:14,820 --> 01:20:17,580
Adam Curry: viewers who think
everything is due to climate

1455
01:20:17,580 --> 01:20:20,040
change. By the way, the same
thing happens when you're in the

1456
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:20,660
sauna,

1457
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:24,380
Unknown: flush. Then your body
begins to sweat. A sweat

1458
01:20:24,380 --> 01:20:27,560
evaporates. It carries HEAT off
the body in an attempt to cool

1459
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,280
it. But if it's really hot,
especially if it's hot and

1460
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,760
humid, these thermal regulation
systems that we've developed

1461
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:35,780
won't be enough. Oh

1462
01:20:35,780 --> 01:20:36,740
no. Go

1463
01:20:36,740 --> 01:20:38,720
Adam Curry: inside. Go inside.
Quick.

1464
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,260
Unknown: The heart will continue
to be fast, putting strain on

1465
01:20:41,260 --> 01:20:44,380
cardiovascular systems. The skin
will continue to sweat,

1466
01:20:44,440 --> 01:20:48,400
depleting your body of water and
essential electrolytes. Oh,

1467
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:48,820
I

1468
01:20:48,820 --> 01:20:52,720
need electro electrolytes.
Electrolytes. Quick

1469
01:20:53,140 --> 01:20:54,460
dehydration will set

1470
01:20:55,540 --> 01:20:58,840
Adam Curry: in. Have a drink of
water, maybe

1471
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,560
Unknown: excessive sweating will
cause an imbalance of fluids and

1472
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,440
salts in the human system,
muscles will cramp. They'll feel

1473
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:07,200
weak. Your heart will keep
working harder. The kidneys,

1474
01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:09,780
which help filter waste and
manage fluid in your body,

1475
01:21:09,780 --> 01:21:10,560
become strained.

1476
01:21:10,980 --> 01:21:11,700
John C Dvorak: Wow, this

1477
01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:17,400
Adam Curry: is so good. I feel
weak my kidneys, I don't what

1478
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:18,120
should I do?

1479
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:21,680
Unknown: As your body loses
water, the volume of body in

1480
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,740
your water decreases. So does
your blood pressure? No, the

1481
01:21:24,740 --> 01:21:27,920
blood thickens as it loses
moisture. The heart that has to

1482
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:28,340
my

1483
01:21:29,540 --> 01:21:32,420
Adam Curry: blood is thickening.
I'm slowing down. I don't think

1484
01:21:32,420 --> 01:21:35,240
I can make it inside for a drink
of water. And harder

1485
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,060
Unknown: to pump blood to the
brain, because less brain to the

1486
01:21:38,060 --> 01:21:41,140
less blood to the brain means
less oxygen to the brain, which

1487
01:21:41,140 --> 01:21:43,780
causes lightheadedness,
confusion, dizziness, even

1488
01:21:43,780 --> 01:21:48,040
fainting, like our president,
when unable to regulate your

1489
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,280
body's core temperature rises
rapidly. If your body's core

1490
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:56,620
temperature nears 104 degrees,
it reaches the threshold for

1491
01:21:56,620 --> 01:22:00,420
heat stroke, with that strain on
the heart, on the brain, on the

1492
01:22:00,420 --> 01:22:04,320
kidneys and the liver. All
that's happening now is that

1493
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,440
your risk of organ failure has
increased. My

1494
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:11,640
Adam Curry: organs are failing,
failing. If your

1495
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,480
Unknown: body hits a core
temperature of 107 degrees, Wow,

1496
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:18,720
your body's proteins begin to
break down. There is

1497
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:24,440
irreversible vital organs, and
usually comes death,

1498
01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:28,760
Adam Curry: death, oh, no,
death, death is next. So this is

1499
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:33,080
a very long lead into the
Copernicus Institute, which is

1500
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:37,640
this, this European, you know,
they've now become the, the,

1501
01:22:37,700 --> 01:22:42,700
the, the, the official word on
climate change and temperatures.

1502
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,500
They're in the EU, funded by the
EU and but everyone believes in

1503
01:22:47,500 --> 01:22:49,360
the Copernicus Institute,
extreme

1504
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,820
Unknown: heat is even deadlier
than hurricanes, tornadoes and

1505
01:22:51,820 --> 01:22:54,220
floods combined. Really,

1506
01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:00,040
Adam Curry: I don't, I don't
think that's blood through I

1507
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:00,540
think

1508
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,840
John C Dvorak: combined
everything all dropped from

1509
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:04,740
heat. Yeah,

1510
01:23:04,740 --> 01:23:07,260
Adam Curry: I have a feeling
that more people die in

1511
01:23:07,260 --> 01:23:08,640
hurricanes and stuff. But

1512
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,740
John C Dvorak: okay,
statistician out there listening

1513
01:23:10,740 --> 01:23:12,480
to the show, we can get some
numbers.

1514
01:23:12,660 --> 01:23:15,120
Unknown: Last year was the
hottest here on record globally,

1515
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,940
and this summer broke last
year's record. Just yesterday,

1516
01:23:17,940 --> 01:23:21,080
the European Union's Copernicus
climate change service reported

1517
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,920
that summer 2024 was the
hottest, most humid summer ever

1518
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,800
recorded on Earth, ever on
Earth. This summer, the Biden

1519
01:23:27,860 --> 01:23:30,680
administration announced a heat
plan, an initiative to help

1520
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,500
protect workers from excessive
heat, as well as to fortify

1521
01:23:33,500 --> 01:23:36,620
communities across the country
to handle extreme heat as it

1522
01:23:36,620 --> 01:23:40,280
becomes more common. Their plan
includes cooling infrastructure

1523
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,180
as well as heat information
systems to help prepare and

1524
01:23:43,180 --> 01:23:46,480
protect people from the growing
threat of extreme heat, all

1525
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:49,300
supported by the National
Weather Service, the EPA and

1526
01:23:49,300 --> 01:23:52,420
NOAA, the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration,

1527
01:23:52,420 --> 01:23:55,600
supported by them. Meanwhile, as
Trump and some Republicans in

1528
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,720
Congress continue to deny the
existence of human caused

1529
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,840
climate change, the project
2025,

1530
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:07,560
John C Dvorak: stop, stop, stop.
He all of a sudden changes from

1531
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:11,580
climate change the very at the
very end, when condemning Trump,

1532
01:24:11,580 --> 01:24:16,320
yes to human caused climate
change. Why nowhere in the

1533
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,680
report so far has it been
brought up that they believe

1534
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,580
it's human caused? It's just
climate change. It could be a

1535
01:24:22,580 --> 01:24:25,040
natural phenomenon. Could
because of the sun, could

1536
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,280
because of the 22 year Sun
cycle. Could be sunspots. It

1537
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,920
could be a lot of things, but
now, because you're going to

1538
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:35,060
condemn Trump, you slip it in as
though that was the factor all

1539
01:24:35,060 --> 01:24:36,680
along. Very tricky.

1540
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:42,040
Adam Curry: I would say climate
change is caused by project 2025

1541
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,240
that's what's going that's
what's going on here. Meanwhile,

1542
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,700
Unknown: as Trump and some
Republicans in Congress continue

1543
01:24:48,700 --> 01:24:52,060
to deny the existence of human
caused climate change, the

1544
01:24:52,060 --> 01:24:55,600
project 2025 blueprint for the
next conservative administration

1545
01:24:55,780 --> 01:24:59,920
wants to gut the EPA. Wants to
completely dismantle the.

1546
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,700
Weather Service and Noah, oh,

1547
01:25:02,700 --> 01:25:05,700
Adam Curry: no, we won't know if
there's climate change. Then

1548
01:25:06,060 --> 01:25:06,300
they

1549
01:25:06,300 --> 01:25:09,420
John C Dvorak: want to gut, if
they want to eliminate, they

1550
01:25:09,420 --> 01:25:12,240
want to shut down the epic, I
don't, I never

1551
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,940
Adam Curry: heard this. Hello.
It's in Project 25

1552
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,600
John C Dvorak: oh, it's in that
stupid project 2025. Thing that

1553
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,380
they Yeah, that Trump never
read, yes,

1554
01:25:21,380 --> 01:25:23,600
Adam Curry: exactly. That's
what's going on.

1555
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,040
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, I got a
couple of things here I want to

1556
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:32,000
play. One is the course we have
to play this. This is a even

1557
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,020
NTD, or which seems to be your
favorite channel. Now that

1558
01:25:36,020 --> 01:25:37,700
you're stealing my material,
you're

1559
01:25:37,700 --> 01:25:39,200
Adam Curry: stealing my
material,

1560
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,720
John C Dvorak: I just have to
just have to just a little bitty

1561
01:25:43,780 --> 01:25:48,340
climate clip from man TD, and
this is the feels like feels

1562
01:25:48,340 --> 01:25:51,400
like temperature. They're even
doing it this

1563
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,400
Unknown: week, the nation is
bracing for a severe heat wave

1564
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,880
with extreme temperatures
anticipated to affect 32 major

1565
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:02,400
cities. Some areas are expected
to exceed 105 degrees starting

1566
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,120
Wednesday, a heat advisory has
been issued for South Florida,

1567
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,900
including Miami, Dade Broward
and the Florida Keys were, feels

1568
01:26:09,900 --> 01:26:13,860
like temperatures could soar to
110 degrees Wednesday afternoon

1569
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:14,580
feels

1570
01:26:14,580 --> 01:26:15,960
Adam Curry: like temperatures.

1571
01:26:16,260 --> 01:26:18,480
John C Dvorak: Feels like
temperatures. You know, I've

1572
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:21,380
been working with Horowitz for
over a decade on the and he

1573
01:26:21,380 --> 01:26:25,400
lives in Florida, and I don't
care, any Floridian will tell

1574
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:29,300
you the same thing, the summers
in Florida are miserable, yes.

1575
01:26:30,260 --> 01:26:36,860
So what else is new? Yeah. And
anyway, and CNN report feels

1576
01:26:36,860 --> 01:26:37,940
like temperature.

1577
01:26:38,060 --> 01:26:41,380
Adam Curry: CNN reports it's
early September. What should be

1578
01:26:41,380 --> 01:26:45,280
the busiest stretch of hurricane
season. Forecasters predicted

1579
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:49,060
this was going to be a bad one,
storm after storm, the most

1580
01:26:49,060 --> 01:26:53,860
bullish forecasts on record in
straight instead, the Atlantic

1581
01:26:53,860 --> 01:26:58,960
Ocean is enveloped in a rare and
strange calm that has flummoxed

1582
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,740
forecasters. And here's the

1583
01:27:03,180 --> 01:27:04,980
John C Dvorak: finish you read.
I know if you're reading that,

1584
01:27:04,980 --> 01:27:08,700
but yeah, this is fascinating,
because what's happened, and

1585
01:27:08,700 --> 01:27:11,160
this was reported. We didn't
have any I didn't get any clips

1586
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,700
of it, but about two weeks ago,
they were wondering, Where's all

1587
01:27:14,700 --> 01:27:18,000
these damned hurricanes they're
supposed to have? Yeah, and they

1588
01:27:18,060 --> 01:27:21,680
and the and the water is warmer
than usual, and now they come up

1589
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,740
with this bogus theory. They
keep theorizing. Everything's

1590
01:27:24,740 --> 01:27:27,560
done in the pat you know, this
old armchair quarterbacking

1591
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,220
where, well, it must be this.
It's the temperatures have

1592
01:27:31,220 --> 01:27:37,040
gotten so hot in the oceans that
is confusing. The storms, they

1593
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,120
can't form. I

1594
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:42,820
Adam Curry: don't know what to
do. I'm confused. I think we

1595
01:27:42,820 --> 01:27:45,340
actually predicted this was
gonna this was gonna happen. I

1596
01:27:45,340 --> 01:27:48,520
think that maybe a few months
back, oh, it's gonna be the

1597
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,820
worst September ever. You watch
climate change. It's gonna kill

1598
01:27:51,820 --> 01:27:56,140
so many people Florida, be on
beyond watch horrible. I think

1599
01:27:56,140 --> 01:27:59,020
we even just out of principle,
said, No, it's not gonna happen.

1600
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,440
John C Dvorak: You got it right.
Just out of principle, exactly

1601
01:28:04,500 --> 01:28:08,640
so full of it, yeah, that it
doesn't take a genius to say,

1602
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,460
Oh, that's not gonna happen. As

1603
01:28:11,460 --> 01:28:16,200
Adam Curry: an aviator, I can
tell you that you can predict

1604
01:28:16,260 --> 01:28:19,680
what's going to happen in a
certain area, like an airport.

1605
01:28:19,860 --> 01:28:25,580
Weather wise, you can do 24
hours, but really 12 hours, you

1606
01:28:25,580 --> 01:28:28,700
can predict that. You can't
predict anything out further out

1607
01:28:28,700 --> 01:28:37,040
than that. So it's all horse
crap. It really is. But this is,

1608
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:40,600
this is the one man this. This
is what they're going to use to

1609
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:46,240
talk about, you know, this will
be the reason for all these

1610
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:51,580
mosquitoes. And, you know, all
the horrible we're all dying

1611
01:28:51,580 --> 01:28:57,580
from all of these horrible
triple equine you know, or was

1612
01:28:57,580 --> 01:29:04,980
it Eastern Equine Encephalitis?
Yeah. I think actually have a,

1613
01:29:06,420 --> 01:29:08,760
yeah, I have, I have a clip,
actually, of this West

1614
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,120
Unknown: Nile virus, spread by
mosquitoes, is now deadly in New

1615
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,760
Jersey, the state health
department New Jersey deaths

1616
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,000
were older adults in Cumberland
and Mercer counties.

1617
01:29:18,060 --> 01:29:20,960
Adam Curry: Of course, old
people die all the time, from

1618
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:21,980
from disease,

1619
01:29:22,460 --> 01:29:24,860
John C Dvorak: he died, please.
New infection. Well, I get the

1620
01:29:24,860 --> 01:29:25,460
bird. I could

1621
01:29:25,700 --> 01:29:28,700
Adam Curry: Oh, you just okay.
That's okay. You can you? Oh,

1622
01:29:28,700 --> 01:29:29,720
you have another play my

1623
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,300
John C Dvorak: bird here's
another one, same thing, bird

1624
01:29:32,300 --> 01:29:35,180
flu. This time, bird flu. Get
you let bird flu out. Oh,

1625
01:29:35,180 --> 01:29:37,640
Unknown: I'm sorry. Health
officials have identified a

1626
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,200
person in Missouri sick with
bird food, despite having no

1627
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,440
known contact with animals,
marks the first case of the

1628
01:29:44,440 --> 01:29:47,800
virus in the United States this
year, not linked to farm work,

1629
01:29:47,860 --> 01:29:49,840
and appears Juliana Kim reports

1630
01:29:49,900 --> 01:29:52,840
the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention reported that a

1631
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,840
person in Missouri was
hospitalized and treated for

1632
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,620
bird flu. Unlike other human
cases, this patient has no

1633
01:29:59,620 --> 01:30:03,120
known. Exposure to a sick
animal. Bird flu has been

1634
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,300
spreading across farms in the
United States since the spring.

1635
01:30:06,660 --> 01:30:10,740
So far, there have been 14 human
cases of the virus, and nearly

1636
01:30:10,740 --> 01:30:14,100
all the patients had been linked
to sick dairy cows or poultry.

1637
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:18,000
The CDC says the Missouri
patient has recovered and the

1638
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,560
virus did not appear to have
spread to close contacts, adding

1639
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:25,100
that the risk of bird flu to the
general public remains low.

1640
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,240
Aside from Missouri, human cases
have been reported in Texas,

1641
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,220
Michigan and Colorado. So where

1642
01:30:31,220 --> 01:30:33,860
Adam Curry: do you get it from?
This? To get it from another

1643
01:30:33,860 --> 01:30:35,420
person or a monkey?

1644
01:30:35,540 --> 01:30:39,560
John C Dvorak: Well, the way I
see it, who cares? It's one guy

1645
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,520
out of the blue who got bird
flu? There are people getting

1646
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,880
sick or getting shot, or there's
all kinds of news around. This

1647
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:49,780
is a non story. I'm going to
make a prediction, trying to

1648
01:30:49,780 --> 01:30:51,880
make it a story. Well, of
course, I'm

1649
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:56,800
Adam Curry: going to make a
prediction. The on deck for the

1650
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:01,380
next solution for climate change
will be roundabouts.

1651
01:31:03,180 --> 01:31:06,000
John C Dvorak: Roundabouts, yes,
okay, you better explain that

1652
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:07,140
one roundabouts

1653
01:31:07,140 --> 01:31:07,260
Adam Curry: in.

1654
01:31:07,260 --> 01:31:08,880
John C Dvorak: Oh, wait a
minute. Let me guess, let me I

1655
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:13,380
can, I guess? Yeah, go for it.
You go round about, you know,

1656
01:31:13,380 --> 01:31:15,540
roundabout is the thing in the
middle of you. They have these

1657
01:31:15,540 --> 01:31:20,780
in Berkeley, they put them in
for no good reason. Climate.

1658
01:31:20,780 --> 01:31:24,140
What are we gonna do? We got
four way stops. I don't know

1659
01:31:24,140 --> 01:31:27,080
what to do. So then they have
the roundabouts, which are more

1660
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:30,020
dangerous, and very few people
know how to use them correctly

1661
01:31:30,020 --> 01:31:32,840
so, but they have them anyway.
So they put one in. That's

1662
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,360
because you go round and round
and round, it creates a

1663
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:39,560
whirlpool, a vortex, which will
then change the weather patterns

1664
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,700
and cause hurricanes and
tornadoes in areas where they no

1665
01:31:42,700 --> 01:31:46,480
longer exist or they never have
existed thus far. Well, yeah,

1666
01:31:46,540 --> 01:31:48,820
Adam Curry: no. First of all, it
doesn't surprise me that

1667
01:31:48,820 --> 01:31:51,820
Berkeley has them, and I bet, if
you look into it, Berkeley

1668
01:31:51,820 --> 01:31:57,400
probably had a study done that
said people don't idle at

1669
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:01,440
roundabouts. You see, you're not
sitting there with your car

1670
01:32:01,500 --> 01:32:07,020
idling, idling, throwing
greenhouse gasses into the air,

1671
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:13,740
waiting for either a a four way
stop, which is confusing, or for

1672
01:32:13,740 --> 01:32:17,520
a traffic light. Roundabouts
will be the I'm telling you. You

1673
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,780
can write it down on the book.
Roundabouts are going to be the

1674
01:32:20,780 --> 01:32:22,580
next climate change solution.

1675
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,540
John C Dvorak: Roundabouts, I
find them incredibly annoying.

1676
01:32:29,780 --> 01:32:30,260
With that,

1677
01:32:30,260 --> 01:32:31,940
Adam Curry: I'd like to thank
you for your courage. Say in the

1678
01:32:31,940 --> 01:32:34,820
morning to you, the man who put
the sea in the kids from China,

1679
01:32:34,940 --> 01:32:37,940
say hello to my friend on the
other end, the one the only Mr.

1680
01:32:37,940 --> 01:32:38,120
John.

1681
01:32:42,020 --> 01:32:43,600
John C Dvorak: The morning to
you. Miss. The morning, all

1682
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,120
ships to see boots on the
ground, feet in the air, subs in

1683
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:49,120
the water, and all the Dames and
nights out there.

1684
01:32:49,300 --> 01:32:52,720
Adam Curry: Hello. Hello there
trolls. We have 21 let me count

1685
01:32:52,720 --> 01:33:02,160
the trolls for a second I was
looking for 2101 this seems on

1686
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:06,060
par. It seems pretty good,
particularly for low for

1687
01:33:06,060 --> 01:33:09,480
vacation week. What was my what
was the cotton gin? What was

1688
01:33:09,480 --> 01:33:13,440
the, what was the the peak? What
was the, was the peak? I want

1689
01:33:13,440 --> 01:33:14,220
the peak was

1690
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,360
John C Dvorak: we have one of
our producers that's, that's

1691
01:33:18,420 --> 01:33:19,200
good. Cotton Gin

1692
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,320
Adam Curry: does that? Yeah?
Cotton gin? Yeah, cotton gin

1693
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,600
hasn't posted it yet. He's
probably looking right. He's

1694
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,600
John C Dvorak: doing a
statistical analysis of the flow

1695
01:33:26,780 --> 01:33:30,560
of the flow of roundabouts. He's
got all these numbers. It's

1696
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,440
like, here it is. He can. He
sent me an email condemning me

1697
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:35,960
for questioning his abilities.
Well, cotton

1698
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,180
Adam Curry: gin is the man 2215,
he says

1699
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,600
John C Dvorak: was that was the
hot, slow. The pillow thing is

1700
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:40,960
low,

1701
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,660
Adam Curry: it's low, it's low.
And we had a newsletter fail.

1702
01:33:43,660 --> 01:33:44,440
What happened?

1703
01:33:46,300 --> 01:33:49,360
John C Dvorak: I don't know I
but I'm looking at alternative

1704
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:49,840
news. You

1705
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:54,340
Adam Curry: blame you blamed
Linux. You said my Linux did it.

1706
01:33:55,480 --> 01:33:58,480
John C Dvorak: There is I got a
long note. We have a bunch of

1707
01:33:58,480 --> 01:34:01,260
guys out there that know what
they're doing. And he claims

1708
01:34:01,260 --> 01:34:05,220
that the Linux there's a couple
of products that Linux servers

1709
01:34:05,220 --> 01:34:10,260
use consistently that are spam
blockers, and we get that our

1710
01:34:10,380 --> 01:34:12,120
sites keep coming up in them.

1711
01:34:13,140 --> 01:34:15,000
Adam Curry: That's because
people report us. That's what

1712
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,480
happens. That's how that's how
it happens. Douchebags, you can

1713
01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:19,380
get off for what

1714
01:34:19,380 --> 01:34:22,040
John C Dvorak: being night, for
telling the truth, for getting

1715
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,760
to the bottom of things, or for
condemning Democrats. Yeah,

1716
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:26,240
there you go.

1717
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,260
Adam Curry: I think that must be
go. Look at who maintains Linux,

1718
01:34:30,260 --> 01:34:34,520
and we understand these trolls
are listening in the troll room,

1719
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:38,180
which you can join@trollroom.io
or you can use a modern podcast

1720
01:34:38,180 --> 01:34:41,200
app, you know, the one that has
transcriptions so you can read

1721
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,840
along if you're in a foreign
country and want to learn some

1722
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,480
English and like, Oh, what is
this word? Oh, it's good. I get

1723
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:52,540
it because we speak clearly. As
John pointed out earlier, by the

1724
01:34:52,540 --> 01:34:56,320
way, there was some
incompatibility with something

1725
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,920
with the fountain modern podcast
that fountain for the live.

1726
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,100
Show. Because the way it works
is when we send out the batch

1727
01:35:02,100 --> 01:35:05,280
signal, all these modern podcast
apps give you an alert. You tap

1728
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,860
on the same place you get your
podcast, and then you can listen

1729
01:35:07,860 --> 01:35:10,680
right away. And so it was
crashing the app. Somehow we

1730
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,860
fixed that. So if you were using
that before and you bailed out

1731
01:35:13,860 --> 01:35:16,620
on us, on the on the last
episode, just come back. It

1732
01:35:16,620 --> 01:35:18,720
works again. Podcast apps.com,

1733
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:22,580
John C Dvorak: so it's a moving
target. It is, it is, it's

1734
01:35:22,580 --> 01:35:24,920
Adam Curry: a moving target. But
you know that's, that's why it's

1735
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:30,320
worth a Nobel Peace Prize. I
heard that this past week,

1736
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,520
Spotify deplatformed an
inordinate amount of episodes

1737
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,340
and podcasts, and I'm getting a
list.

1738
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:41,380
John C Dvorak: What's an
inordinate mean to you? 10, no,

1739
01:35:41,620 --> 01:35:42,700
100, 100 100

1740
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,720
Adam Curry: I'd say 100 100
podcasts. That's a lot. And from

1741
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:50,320
what I understand, most of it
were, most of these podcasts

1742
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:51,940
were political podcasts.

1743
01:35:53,020 --> 01:35:55,180
John C Dvorak: Oh, we'd be toast
on that platform.

1744
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,180
Adam Curry: You know, the we
used to have couple, we're not

1745
01:35:58,180 --> 01:36:00,960
John C Dvorak: even really
political. We're basically a

1746
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:07,740
political it just so turns out,
yeah, yes, that we condemn one

1747
01:36:07,740 --> 01:36:10,080
side more than the other.
Although we condemn both sides

1748
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:10,260
in

1749
01:36:10,260 --> 01:36:12,840
Adam Curry: this election, we
certainly do. I mean, I mean,

1750
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:14,160
look the demons. Yeah, when

1751
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,440
John C Dvorak: you got some
dipshit like Kamala Harris

1752
01:36:16,440 --> 01:36:19,140
running for president, people
are voting for you. You gotta be

1753
01:36:19,140 --> 01:36:23,360
honest. Do you gotta be Oculus.
You can't borderline nuts.

1754
01:36:24,500 --> 01:36:26,660
Adam Curry: You have to be
honest with the people. That's

1755
01:36:26,660 --> 01:36:30,500
just, that's just the fact, we
used to have a couple of guys

1756
01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:33,740
would upload the podcast to
YouTube, you remember that? And

1757
01:36:33,740 --> 01:36:36,260
then put, you know, just an
image in it. Some of them, I

1758
01:36:36,260 --> 01:36:39,920
think even, would put in extra
images. Yeah, and they stopped

1759
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:43,000
doing they said, you know, I'm
getting strikes on my account.

1760
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:47,800
Because some would, someone,
would, you know, report, or

1761
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,920
whatever reason they take down
that episode, and then whoever

1762
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,140
was doing that, their their
account, would get a strike.

1763
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,980
Yeah, so you can see that. So
that shows that this is the only

1764
01:36:56,980 --> 01:37:01,440
place we are, the only place we
can be as, and we don't have

1765
01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:04,080
video, so we're struggling over
here, people we can't you know,

1766
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,680
Linux is against our newsletter.
I mean, you got to help us out

1767
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:14,160
here. Doesn't hurt. And you
know, what was I reading here?

1768
01:37:15,780 --> 01:37:19,260
So I already told you about the
nine minutes of ads in front of

1769
01:37:19,260 --> 01:37:24,920
the LEX Friedman, oh, so would
you consider only fans to be

1770
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:26,720
kind of like value for value?

1771
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,100
Unknown: Yeah, I would. Did you
hear their numbers?

1772
01:37:31,940 --> 01:37:34,280
John C Dvorak: Oh, there, I
can't. You're gonna make me

1773
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:37,760
nauseous if you tell me their
numbers. I know. I mean, I had

1774
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:45,940
Dana Brunetti wife. Is on
onlyfans. No, she's a, she's a

1775
01:37:45,940 --> 01:37:53,260
entertainment lawyer. Oh, no,
and she the inherit the she's an

1776
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,920
heiress to the Bijan fashion
fortune.

1777
01:37:56,980 --> 01:38:01,140
Unknown: Oh, can she? Can she
get me a bag? She, you know, she

1778
01:38:01,140 --> 01:38:02,520
John C Dvorak: can't even get me
a sweater.

1779
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,480
Okay, wait, Alex. Alex is her
name.

1780
01:38:09,480 --> 01:38:11,280
Unknown: I can just see you in a
Bijou sweater.

1781
01:38:12,900 --> 01:38:16,500
John C Dvorak: So she's, it's
Bijon, I think, whatever. And

1782
01:38:18,180 --> 01:38:21,620
she's an entertainment lawyer.
And she just in passing,

1783
01:38:21,620 --> 01:38:25,580
mentioned to me about one of her
clients who was having, you

1784
01:38:25,580 --> 01:38:31,460
know, an only fans client,
person about their their never

1785
01:38:31,460 --> 01:38:35,780
mentioned who it was, but it's
one of her clients. And she said

1786
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,360
she'd made 10 million last year

1787
01:38:39,020 --> 01:38:43,240
Adam Curry: only fans revenue
this past year, $7 billion

1788
01:38:44,440 --> 01:38:47,200
John C Dvorak: it's
unbelievable. Maybe, meanwhile,

1789
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,660
people bitch about sending us
five bucks. Maybe we

1790
01:38:49,660 --> 01:38:51,400
Adam Curry: should, maybe we
should turn on some cameras,

1791
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:52,660
take off our shirts. You

1792
01:38:52,660 --> 01:38:55,660
John C Dvorak: know, my pay off.
You never know. You can be

1793
01:38:55,660 --> 01:38:57,940
Adam Curry: in the troll room,
like, flip your hair. Adam,

1794
01:38:57,940 --> 01:39:01,440
okay, no problem. Yeah, I'll do
anything at this point.

1795
01:39:01,980 --> 01:39:05,220
John C Dvorak: No, yeah, and I'm
sure that the ten million girl,

1796
01:39:05,220 --> 01:39:12,060
I'm assuming it's a girl, is not
the top earner.

1797
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:13,560
Unknown: Oh, no, I'm

1798
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,900
John C Dvorak: sure there's I
didn't I should ask Alex about

1799
01:39:15,900 --> 01:39:19,200
this. But she probably, because
she's been into it enough, she

1800
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,220
probably knows the top earners,
probably 50, 60 million bucks.

1801
01:39:22,220 --> 01:39:22,700
Who knows? Well,

1802
01:39:22,700 --> 01:39:25,700
Adam Curry: maybe this is a
year, maybe we can get some tips

1803
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,720
on what to do, because we're
doing something wrong.

1804
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,080
John C Dvorak: We're not doing
anything wrong and we're not

1805
01:39:33,260 --> 01:39:36,740
it's just as different type. But
there's, there's some people

1806
01:39:36,740 --> 01:39:39,980
that have a an allure that we

1807
01:39:39,980 --> 01:39:44,080
Adam Curry: lack. Yes, yes. I
think we lack several pieces of

1808
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:45,520
allure. Was

1809
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,460
John C Dvorak: two in
particular, yes, exactly two are

1810
01:39:48,460 --> 01:39:53,740
allures that a lot of these
girls have, yes, and I think

1811
01:39:53,740 --> 01:39:55,060
that accounts for a lot of it.

1812
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:57,520
Adam Curry: Well, we know where
the donations are going. The

1813
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:00,900
going to only fans stop spending
your money. They. Air, send

1814
01:40:00,900 --> 01:40:03,240
something to the best podcast in
the universe.

1815
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,520
John C Dvorak: You're not
getting a date with those women.

1816
01:40:05,580 --> 01:40:06,300
Hello,

1817
01:40:07,500 --> 01:40:09,780
Adam Curry: John and Adam,
however, will come to clean your

1818
01:40:09,780 --> 01:40:16,080
house. No problem whatsoever.
Instead, we have opted for a

1819
01:40:16,440 --> 01:40:21,320
true value for value, mug club
media. The future of media is

1820
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:25,820
small people, that's that's how
you know. I really believe that.

1821
01:40:25,820 --> 01:40:29,480
I think that, you know, you'll
have these just pockets, little

1822
01:40:29,480 --> 01:40:31,880
pockets of entertainment, and
people support them. And I'm

1823
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,760
happy with, in general, happy
with the support we get. I know

1824
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,100
you're never happy, but I'm
happy with the support we get.

1825
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:40,420
No, you can't be. I'm amazed.
I'm amazed that people support

1826
01:40:40,420 --> 01:40:43,660
John C Dvorak: us at all. Yeah,
you're, you're shocked.

1827
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:44,620
Sometimes

1828
01:40:44,620 --> 01:40:47,860
Adam Curry: I am like, What?
What? What this is actually,

1829
01:40:47,860 --> 01:40:52,720
still, hey, it'll be when is
October, right? Isn't it coming

1830
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:53,080
up

1831
01:40:53,980 --> 01:40:55,960
John C Dvorak: the end of
October is our anniversary. But

1832
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,720
we have before the at the end of
this month, we're having our

1833
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:03,360
show 1700 Wow. And that'll be,

1834
01:41:03,780 --> 01:41:06,180
Adam Curry: Oh, that's right,
it's a seven episodes away. Oh,

1835
01:41:06,180 --> 01:41:07,080
that is the end. Yeah, it's

1836
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:07,740
John C Dvorak: coming right up,

1837
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,700
Adam Curry: though. So we have
1700 and our 17 year

1838
01:41:11,700 --> 01:41:14,580
anniversary. Is that what kind
of, what kind of

1839
01:41:14,580 --> 01:41:16,500
John C Dvorak: one two punch we
usually get some money for

1840
01:41:16,500 --> 01:41:19,920
during this period? Is not
today, necessarily, but we get

1841
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:20,660
some money. Is

1842
01:41:20,660 --> 01:41:23,660
Adam Curry: 17 a particular
stone? Or is it a?

1843
01:41:23,900 --> 01:41:25,220
John C Dvorak: Is it a stone?

1844
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,740
Adam Curry: Yeah, like a
diamond, Ruby, or is it a,

1845
01:41:28,340 --> 01:41:30,140
John C Dvorak: you know, the
book of knowledge? Who answered

1846
01:41:30,140 --> 01:41:34,280
this question? I don't have 17,
but somebody, somebody in the in

1847
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:37,400
the troll room, the few people
that are there, one of them

1848
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,840
should know what the 17th
anniversary stone is. I'd

1849
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:44,140
Adam Curry: like to know. I am
indeed quite interested. The 17

1850
01:41:44,140 --> 01:41:45,220
whole would be my

1851
01:41:45,220 --> 01:41:47,620
Unknown: guess. Kidney No, that

1852
01:41:47,620 --> 01:41:49,480
Adam Curry: doesn't sound right.
Kid, no,

1853
01:41:49,480 --> 01:41:52,600
John C Dvorak: kidney stone is
not that'd be good. Interesting

1854
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:53,800
ring, though I like

1855
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:55,960
Adam Curry: it is a prime
number, though 17 is a prime

1856
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,720
number. So that's, that's,
that's, there's something there

1857
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:00,360
John C Dvorak: that is a, that's
a big deal. Yeah.

1858
01:42:02,700 --> 01:42:06,900
Adam Curry: Caroline. What
Caroline? Carnelian, carnelian,

1859
01:42:06,900 --> 01:42:08,580
or Carnelian

1860
01:42:08,580 --> 01:42:11,040
John C Dvorak: Carnelian? Yeah,
Carnelian. Those are the little

1861
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,980
red stones. They actually have
met the beaches over here in San

1862
01:42:13,980 --> 01:42:17,400
Francisco, San Francisco in the
off the peninsula, not the

1863
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:22,580
peninsula, but Marin County
beaches have Cornelius in the

1864
01:42:22,580 --> 01:42:25,100
sand that you can pick up as

1865
01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:27,560
Adam Curry: you walk along. So
it's not a very valuable stone,

1866
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,240
is what you're telling Not
really. None

1867
01:42:29,300 --> 01:42:32,300
John C Dvorak: of it's just
sitting there. It's pretty

1868
01:42:32,300 --> 01:42:32,720
though.

1869
01:42:32,780 --> 01:42:35,000
Adam Curry: So the way it works,
and you've already heard some

1870
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:38,600
boots on the ground, and we have
people we can call upon who help

1871
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,320
us, because if there's one thing
about the best podcasting

1872
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:45,340
universe, we have more and
better producers than any other

1873
01:42:45,340 --> 01:42:48,520
media outlet known to man.
That's why we can say in the

1874
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:52,480
universe and everywhere,
somebody has some special

1875
01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:56,380
knowledge about that one thing.
And I think we've successfully

1876
01:42:56,380 --> 01:42:59,020
trained people that they are
producers, not listeners, and

1877
01:42:59,020 --> 01:43:01,500
they need to support us with
their time with their talent or

1878
01:43:01,500 --> 01:43:05,580
with their treasure. And part of
that is, of course, our Dutch

1879
01:43:05,580 --> 01:43:09,420
masters who create artwork for
every single new show. There was

1880
01:43:09,420 --> 01:43:12,240
a there was a guy who was
looking for some logo work on

1881
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:16,560
the podcasting 2.0 development
group. And he says, Adam, I

1882
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,660
really love, I really love the
artwork you guys do. Who do you

1883
01:43:20,660 --> 01:43:21,500
use?

1884
01:43:23,480 --> 01:43:25,700
Unknown: Like, who do we use

1885
01:43:26,060 --> 01:43:28,040
John C Dvorak: listening to the
show? You figure it out. It

1886
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:28,520
really

1887
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,680
Adam Curry: is, I send them a
link to no agenda Art

1888
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:34,400
generator.com which is where
anyone who has talent or not at

1889
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:38,000
all can upload art. And
sometimes the no talents or just

1890
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:41,380
the prompt jockeys win. And
quite big actually, although I

1891
01:43:41,380 --> 01:43:43,840
was looking at the Latina
actually asked me, Do you still

1892
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:47,620
have the stats? Yeah, it's still
nick the rat, Martin JJ, and

1893
01:43:47,620 --> 01:43:51,520
then comes Darren O'Neill, and
those guys are still at the top

1894
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:55,060
for all the episodes they did.
And Nick uploads something from

1895
01:43:55,060 --> 01:43:59,200
time to time. Rarely he hasn't
really hit it. And Martin JJ, is

1896
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,280
he still alive? Is he still
around? I don't see him any.

1897
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:02,880
Yeah, he

1898
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:04,800
John C Dvorak: posts on
mastodon. Oh, he

1899
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:08,520
Adam Curry: does. Yeah, he How
do you know you're not on

1900
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:09,780
mastodon? How do you know

1901
01:44:09,780 --> 01:44:12,360
John C Dvorak: this is so I'm
referring back to the last time

1902
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,760
it was on Mastodon, which was
about a year ago, and he was

1903
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:19,320
posting quite a bit. Okay, I
guess I have him confused with

1904
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:20,640
someone else, but I don't think
so.

1905
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:22,400
Adam Curry: I did hear from my
birthday. I did hear from

1906
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,800
pelker. So he's still around.
Oh,

1907
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:26,840
John C Dvorak: good as I wonder
if he listens to the show. I

1908
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,660
Adam Curry: think so. Well,
maybe not. I don't know. I don't

1909
01:44:29,660 --> 01:44:32,060
know. Anyway, our

1910
01:44:32,180 --> 01:44:35,180
John C Dvorak: he found a new
lady and she told him to stop

1911
01:44:35,180 --> 01:44:37,640
listening. As you think that was
it. That's possible. That's

1912
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:41,620
possible, very common. Yeah,
guys that do anything that women

1913
01:44:41,620 --> 01:44:42,100
tell them to

1914
01:44:42,100 --> 01:44:44,500
Adam Curry: Yes, see, true fans,
$7 billion

1915
01:44:46,780 --> 01:44:50,860
John C Dvorak: yes, perfect
example, only fans, not true

1916
01:44:50,860 --> 01:44:55,180
fans. Man, there's not like true
fans, though it'd be good. We

1917
01:44:55,180 --> 01:44:56,560
can start that. No, it's

1918
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:59,620
Adam Curry: already a new
podcast app, true fans. True

1919
01:44:59,620 --> 01:45:06,840
fans. FM, that's why it was on
my brain. You saw it? Yeah, past

1920
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,900
my brain. Yeah. We want to thank
correct a record who has been

1921
01:45:09,900 --> 01:45:11,820
around for a long time, who
brought us the artwork for

1922
01:45:11,820 --> 01:45:16,620
Episode 1692 we titled that one
salted ducks, and we just

1923
01:45:16,620 --> 01:45:19,560
laughed at this one. It was
Putin holding up some cash.

1924
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:20,120
Yeah.

1925
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,640
John C Dvorak: We normally don't
like putting politicians into

1926
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:25,280
the arts. We don't make that
clear. So we don't have a bunch

1927
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:26,180
of it happening. We

1928
01:45:26,180 --> 01:45:29,840
Adam Curry: don't. But this was
funny. It made sense in context

1929
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:34,640
of the of the tenant media
scandal. And even had plastered

1930
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:38,360
over there value for value. We
like the use of the Russian, you

1931
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:40,840
know, the Cyrillic kind of font.
So

1932
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:43,600
John C Dvorak: we chose it, yes,
yeah, I think, I think that made

1933
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:48,280
it full, full for Cyrillic Yes.
Font worked at the top.

1934
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:52,360
Adam Curry: There were a couple
of other decent tries. There was

1935
01:45:53,140 --> 01:45:57,700
data did niet agenda, which had
kind of an Uncle Sam puppet,

1936
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:03,780
also with the faux Cyrillic
font. Darren O'Neill did a, he

1937
01:46:03,780 --> 01:46:07,200
tried, tried a good job there
with the podcaster vending

1938
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:12,540
machine by a podcaster, but
didn't quite hit home. Let me

1939
01:46:12,540 --> 01:46:18,360
see, Darren also did a free
speech troll. No, the no Russian

1940
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:21,500
money here, another corrector
record, a couple of manosphears,

1941
01:46:21,500 --> 01:46:25,940
which were which were nice, but
there was really nothing. It

1942
01:46:25,940 --> 01:46:30,980
just wasn't there was a comic
strip blogger did a but insert

1943
01:46:30,980 --> 01:46:34,820
Russian money here, and again,
he doesn't have the the prompt

1944
01:46:34,820 --> 01:46:38,720
skills that Darren O'Neill has,
because the lettering just

1945
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:43,120
doesn't look like it's actually
on the jeans, yeah, you know.

1946
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:45,760
And somehow Darren has figured
that out. I don't know what he's

1947
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:47,680
using. And by the way, we've

1948
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:50,080
John C Dvorak: looked at his
prompts, and it's like he's

1949
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:53,800
really good. I mean, I think I
don't know where I get the sense

1950
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:58,420
that Darren first got a clue
from comic strip blogger,

1951
01:46:58,420 --> 01:47:04,620
possibly, and then took it, took
it in a new direction. God, it's

1952
01:47:04,620 --> 01:47:07,920
like having the it's a knack
thing you get, you kind of get a

1953
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:14,280
feeling for it, and you can just
start throwing requests at the

1954
01:47:14,580 --> 01:47:17,280
AI, and its response correctly,

1955
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:18,300
Adam Curry: open AI.

1956
01:47:18,900 --> 01:47:20,840
John C Dvorak: It may also be, I
don't know what he's using for a

1957
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,640
system. There's so many of these

1958
01:47:22,700 --> 01:47:25,220
Adam Curry: now. Yeah, there
are. Well open AI is now

1959
01:47:25,220 --> 01:47:28,400
discussing their new pricing
model for their next this is

1960
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,400
going to be the the large
language model that really

1961
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,280
works, the really, really good
one this time. It'll really,

1962
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:37,340
really, really, really work. Do
you know what they're going to

1963
01:47:37,340 --> 01:47:38,300
charge per month?

1964
01:47:39,500 --> 01:47:40,820
John C Dvorak: $100 $2,000

1965
01:47:42,620 --> 01:47:47,080
Adam Curry: why? What? Yep,
yeah, for, I think it's called

1966
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,720
Strawberry. Is there next? The
next release?

1967
01:47:51,580 --> 01:47:53,980
John C Dvorak: Well, that's not
gonna work. It'll finally

1968
01:47:53,980 --> 01:47:56,560
Adam Curry: make sense with the
amount of investment that's gone

1969
01:47:56,560 --> 01:48:01,620
into it. Yes. The the new
reasoning focused LLM dubbed

1970
01:48:01,620 --> 01:48:08,220
strawberry, and a new flagship
LLM called Orion. It's finally

1971
01:48:08,220 --> 01:48:11,700
gonna work. You can alert Andrew
Horowitz. He loves this stuff.

1972
01:48:11,700 --> 01:48:14,460
It. It tells him exactly what to
do in the market,

1973
01:48:16,620 --> 01:48:19,560
John C Dvorak: and I'll bet it's
so accurate at picking stocks.

1974
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:20,900
Yes,

1975
01:48:21,260 --> 01:48:24,800
Adam Curry: he won't have to go
to work anymore. This beautiful

1976
01:48:26,180 --> 01:48:31,100
anyway. Thank you very much.
Correct a record, but thank you

1977
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:33,380
to all of our artists, all of
them, just like correct a

1978
01:48:33,380 --> 01:48:39,140
record, art masters Dutch fine
and Masters of Fine Art. And you

1979
01:48:39,140 --> 01:48:42,460
can join that Legion by going to
no agenda, artgenerator.com,

1980
01:48:43,480 --> 01:48:45,880
create an account if you don't
have one, upload it. You know,

1981
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:48,880
we look at everything and we
appreciate and we'll be honest,

1982
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:51,760
we're going to help you with
your skills. So there people

1983
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:55,600
have got roundy. Roundy went on
to have an actual career with

1984
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,680
his artistic skills, and he had
at least when he left, he

1985
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:04,320
attributed some of that to our
critique of his work. And now he

1986
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:09,120
works good, yes, now he works
for daily wire. He does well, I

1987
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:14,340
think he started doing political
illustration art, yeah. And now

1988
01:49:14,340 --> 01:49:17,160
he's doing video stuff. Hey,
he's got quite a career over

1989
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:17,520
there.

1990
01:49:18,180 --> 01:49:21,500
John C Dvorak: Spunk, so good
for him. He's a talented guy. I

1991
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:23,360
actually prefer his fine art.
But

1992
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,820
Adam Curry: yeah, I miss him. Do
all this. I miss him as long as

1993
01:49:25,820 --> 01:49:27,680
he's, you know, once he went
over there, yeah, he

1994
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:31,280
John C Dvorak: wasn't, he was
he, he, when he was doing stuff

1995
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:34,820
for the show, it was like, let
me get a couple of wins here,

1996
01:49:34,820 --> 01:49:35,540
and I'm out.

1997
01:49:36,260 --> 01:49:39,020
Adam Curry: See ya. See you
later, boys. Yeah, you know

1998
01:49:39,380 --> 01:49:41,500
exactly, see a boys done.

1999
01:49:42,220 --> 01:49:43,960
John C Dvorak: I'm out. We

2000
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,480
Adam Curry: also like to thank
all of the producers who sent us

2001
01:49:46,480 --> 01:49:51,760
treasure can be any amount. In
fact, we encourage you to return

2002
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:55,000
value in monetary amounts that
equal the value you got out of

2003
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,340
it, since we can't look at
anybody's personal

2004
01:49:57,340 --> 01:50:00,480
circumstances, entirely up to
you, which is the Fair. Way of

2005
01:50:00,480 --> 01:50:03,000
doing it. That's how it works
here at mug club media.

2006
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:07,380
John C Dvorak: I hope you should
get off. I'm gonna

2007
01:50:07,380 --> 01:50:10,560
Adam Curry: stop. I'm gonna stop
it. That was the last time it

2008
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:14,820
just flows so nicely. But get
off. No, it doesn't okay. But

2009
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:21,800
right. I'm stopping. Put it in
the meeting notes. We thank

2010
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:25,760
anybody over $50 under 50, we
don't mention, for reasons of

2011
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,700
anonymity, actually had a number
of people come in under 50

2012
01:50:28,700 --> 01:50:33,320
today, 4990 nines. What else did
I see here? I saw a lot of 4990

2013
01:50:33,860 --> 01:50:39,380
nines. 4949 and you can also,
and this is something we

2014
01:50:39,380 --> 01:50:43,600
encourage everybody to do,
regardless of the value, send

2015
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:46,480
back for a particular show or
particular topic, is do a

2016
01:50:46,480 --> 01:50:50,200
sustaining donation, which can
be any frequency, any amount,

2017
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,020
anything you like. Go to no
agenda donations.com. Tony

2018
01:50:53,020 --> 01:50:56,740
Fitzpatrick went to no agenda
donations.com. He is from

2019
01:50:56,740 --> 01:51:00,280
Switzerland, from feyenbach,
which I have no idea where

2020
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:05,640
feinbach, freyenbach. I'm sorry,
I have no idea what it is. And

2021
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:11,520
as always, we will give you a
title, a credit, $200 and above

2022
01:51:11,580 --> 01:51:14,820
is Associate Executive Producer.
It's a real credit. You can use

2023
01:51:14,820 --> 01:51:17,580
it anywhere credits are
recognized, including imdb.com,

2024
01:51:17,940 --> 01:51:20,240
if you don't have an account,
you can open one, because you

2025
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:23,000
are a real producer, just like
Hollywood, and we'll read your

2026
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:26,840
note, and $300 and above, you
get executive producer credit,

2027
01:51:26,900 --> 01:51:30,800
and we read your note. And Tony
Fitzpatrick, who sounds anything

2028
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:32,780
but Swiss, came in with

2029
01:51:32,900 --> 01:51:33,680
John C Dvorak: exactly,

2030
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:38,180
Adam Curry: sounds like an alias
to me, Tony Fitzpatrick from

2031
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:43,120
Tony from fryingbach, $1,000 but
no note,

2032
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,820
John C Dvorak: yeah, it's Swiss
intelligence. I

2033
01:51:45,820 --> 01:51:49,000
Adam Curry: hope well for that,
Swiss intelligence, you get a

2034
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:50,740
double up karma. Thank you very
much.

2035
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:54,400
Unknown: You've got karma.

2036
01:51:56,680 --> 01:52:01,980
John C Dvorak: Then we roll up
on Susan, Dame Susan of the salt

2037
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:05,640
salner, s, o, l, D, N, E, R,
wheel. I don't know what quite

2038
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:09,960
what that means. I don't know
either, but she is Dame Susan

2039
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:18,180
from McKinney, Texas, $100.04
and she wrote a note in with a

2040
01:52:18,180 --> 01:52:22,220
check. Love the show. How about
some karma for the family?

2041
01:52:22,220 --> 01:52:25,220
Thanks for all the thanks and
all the best. Dame Susan of the

2042
01:52:25,220 --> 01:52:27,500
salner wheels, yes, here you go.
Thank

2043
01:52:27,500 --> 01:52:30,620
Unknown: you very sweet. You've
got karma.

2044
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:36,680
Adam Curry: We moved to Sir JK,
in Green Bay, Wisconsin. He's in

2045
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:41,380
De Pere, Wisconsin, 333 dot 33
one of our favorite amounts. We

2046
01:52:41,380 --> 01:52:44,500
love all the threes. Thank you,
John. And by the way, did you

2047
01:52:44,500 --> 01:52:48,580
notice all of a sudden, there's
a video going around of all the

2048
01:52:48,580 --> 01:52:54,580
30 threes, 33 cases from the
pandemic. Did you get tagged?

2049
01:52:54,580 --> 01:52:59,200
Yeah, I'm like, we, we were on
this when it actually happened.

2050
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,760
Now, people like, Wow. Have you
seen this? Like,

2051
01:53:02,820 --> 01:53:05,580
John C Dvorak: yeah, we've been
talking about 30 threes for

2052
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:10,800
1515, years, minimum. You used
to do a section on this show

2053
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:15,420
called the magic number, yeah.
And you would read the 33

2054
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,980
references for about 10 minutes,
and then it got such a to be

2055
01:53:19,980 --> 01:53:23,060
such a long segment, you just
stopped doing it.

2056
01:53:23,060 --> 01:53:26,240
Adam Curry: But also we had
boring we had super cuts and

2057
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:28,880
everything during the pandemic.
Manners. Just

2058
01:53:29,900 --> 01:53:32,720
John C Dvorak: be pre pandemic
with this, doing it forever.

2059
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:36,440
We're all over it. But no, we,
of course, we, we set the stage

2060
01:53:36,440 --> 01:53:38,960
for other people to take
advantage of the situation. So

2061
01:53:39,020 --> 01:53:40,220
what are you gonna do that's all

2062
01:53:40,220 --> 01:53:42,340
Adam Curry: right. That's why we
are the best podcast in the

2063
01:53:42,340 --> 01:53:42,880
universe. I

2064
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:46,540
John C Dvorak: think some
reason, well, that among other

2065
01:53:46,540 --> 01:53:47,200
things, sir.

2066
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:49,600
Adam Curry: JK says, Thank you,
John and Adam, I stepped away

2067
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:53,860
for a bit, but I know it is time
to come back. Too many 30 threes

2068
01:53:53,860 --> 01:53:57,400
telling me a donation was in
order. Prosperity and abundance.

2069
01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:00,180
Karma will be greatly
appreciated. I'm a casualty of

2070
01:54:00,180 --> 01:54:04,800
the recent economic downturn, as
I was downsized back in July. So

2071
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,740
I'd like a jingle rubbleizer
plus an r2, d2, karma. Thank you

2072
01:54:07,740 --> 01:54:09,780
again. John Adam, for your
dedication to media

2073
01:54:09,780 --> 01:54:13,740
deconstruction, love and let
sir. JK in Green Bay, Night of

2074
01:54:13,740 --> 01:54:15,420
the entertaining kerfuffle

2075
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:17,940
Unknown: India. Mike standby,

2076
01:54:21,060 --> 01:54:23,420
3333 3333 33

2077
01:54:24,740 --> 01:54:26,060
barbaliser out.

2078
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:35,660
You've got karma,

2079
01:54:38,300 --> 01:54:39,860
John C Dvorak: sir. Harry
Pilgrim, our buddy,

2080
01:54:40,340 --> 01:54:42,520
Fredericksburg, Virginia. He

2081
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,460
Adam Curry: has been around with
this show for a since the

2082
01:54:45,460 --> 01:54:48,100
original Hot Pockets tour. Harry
Pilgrim, good

2083
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:51,820
John C Dvorak: to hear you met
him. Didn't you sure did the Hot

2084
01:54:51,820 --> 01:54:56,320
Pockets sure did the sad puppy
would make all nights and Dames

2085
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:59,680
step up and support the best
podcast in the universe without

2086
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:06,000
doing. Nations, the exit
strategy is a no show. And JNK,

2087
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:10,260
Sir Harry Pilgrim, Baron of
massaponics, and the

2088
01:55:10,260 --> 01:55:11,940
Rappahannock, that's right,

2089
01:55:12,660 --> 01:55:15,360
Adam Curry: sir Corby, whoever
that is, is in Hamilton, Ohio,

2090
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:20,720
333. 33 weird. He says, things
are getting weird. Really weird.

2091
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:24,140
This does not count, by the way,
towards our weird count. Love

2092
01:55:24,140 --> 01:55:26,240
the show. Sir Corby, thank you.
Thank

2093
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,400
John C Dvorak: you very much.
Brother still stuck at six and

2094
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:29,720
four. Now it's actually

2095
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:33,440
Adam Curry: seven five the
latest. Count, seven for me,

2096
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:34,160
five for you.

2097
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:41,020
John C Dvorak: Game, wind
chimes, partridge in San Rafael,

2098
01:55:41,020 --> 01:55:45,160
California, 333 33 Yeah, we had
a good, goodly number of 333.

2099
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:49,660
Today. Nice, nice to see in the
morning to you from the other

2100
01:55:49,660 --> 01:55:52,360
side of the San Francisco Bay,
boots on the ground. Big Pharma

2101
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:55,660
is at it again in California,
trying to shut down compounding

2102
01:55:55,660 --> 01:55:57,880
pharmacies. I always thought
they were already shut down in

2103
01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:01,560
California in a public hearing
this Thursday, this California

2104
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:06,360
State Board of Pharmacy, the BOP
is proposing regulations to

2105
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:11,340
block patient access to safe
treatments like gluco

2106
01:56:12,660 --> 01:56:18,240
gluctathion, vitamin B 12,
vitamin B 12. You just buy that

2107
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:21,200
over the counter. What's the
deal? And other infusions. I

2108
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,720
guess it's because somebody
wants to blend it together and

2109
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:27,260
have mortar and pestle, heaven
forbid. Nationwide, cancer is

2110
01:56:27,260 --> 01:56:32,360
the leading cause of death among
firefighters. A glutathione is a

2111
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:35,480
natural antioxidant that
prevents cancer by repairing

2112
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:38,660
cells damaged by pollution,
stress and harmful chemicals.

2113
01:56:38,660 --> 01:56:38,780
I've

2114
01:56:38,780 --> 01:56:40,840
Adam Curry: heard about this
from firefighters. They you,

2115
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:41,500
they take it.

2116
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:45,340
John C Dvorak: This is another,
yeah, when you get there, you

2117
01:56:45,340 --> 01:56:48,580
fight, you're gonna get that
that smoke has got to be nasty.

2118
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:53,260
Just breathe any at any time,
let alone over and over. This is

2119
01:56:53,260 --> 01:56:56,980
another facet of our war on
compounding pharmacies, and

2120
01:56:56,980 --> 01:57:00,340
that's who makes these life
saving treatments. I encourage

2121
01:57:00,340 --> 01:57:06,420
the no agenda nation to learn
more@stopthebopp.com that's s,

2122
01:57:06,420 --> 01:57:13,680
t, O, P, the bop, bop.com. Sign
the petition. Show up. Show up

2123
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:16,500
at the hearing virtually, or
whatever you can do to help us

2124
01:57:16,500 --> 01:57:20,400
fight back. Demand better for
our courageous firefighters.

2125
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:23,120
Let's stop the bop. Okay,

2126
01:57:23,540 --> 01:57:30,620
Adam Curry: that was good point.
I'm all in Up next we have, we

2127
01:57:30,620 --> 01:57:36,320
have here. We have Kenny
Stevens, who sent in a note, hi,

2128
01:57:36,380 --> 01:57:43,180
$300 Hi, hi, just Hi, my
daughter, Allison, who listens

2129
01:57:43,180 --> 01:57:46,660
to your show, asked me to
listen. I am a loyal listener,

2130
01:57:46,660 --> 01:57:51,460
and sometimes listen to your
show multiple times. Is that

2131
01:57:51,700 --> 01:57:52,540
each episode?

2132
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:55,840
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think
that's what he means. Some

2133
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:59,380
people listen to the show more
than once the same show. Living

2134
01:57:59,380 --> 01:58:01,560
Adam Curry: in the blue state of
Rhode Island, my vote never

2135
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:05,460
really means anything, but I do
donate to various races outside

2136
01:58:05,460 --> 01:58:09,240
my state enclosed find my check
for $300 we appreciate the

2137
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:14,400
checks, by the way, this
underappreciated form of people

2138
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:18,000
in other countries laugh at our
check system. No, these stupid

2139
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:21,140
Americans, they still use paper
checks.

2140
01:58:23,300 --> 01:58:26,060
John C Dvorak: I know, let's go
digital. Yeah,

2141
01:58:26,060 --> 01:58:29,720
Adam Curry: I think paper checks
are fantastic. I love them.

2142
01:58:29,780 --> 01:58:32,900
John C Dvorak: It's a small
document that that promises a

2143
01:58:32,900 --> 01:58:36,500
bunch of money to you via bank,
as the check is a middle man.

2144
01:58:36,500 --> 01:58:38,660
It's a great way to go do
business like

2145
01:58:38,660 --> 01:58:42,340
Adam Curry: It's like printing
your own money. It's a very

2146
01:58:42,340 --> 01:58:45,220
powerful feeling. I like it
when, when you sign a check,

2147
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:49,660
here you go. I promise you this
money in close by my check is

2148
01:58:49,660 --> 01:58:53,620
$300 regards, Kenny Stevens an
alias. All right, Kenny, thank

2149
01:58:53,620 --> 01:58:56,320
you very much. Appreciate it.
Appreciate the check in

2150
01:58:56,320 --> 01:59:00,340
John C Dvorak: Rhode Island. He
has to be an alias. House.

2151
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:02,460
You're not a Democrat.

2152
01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:03,780
Unknown: You're dead.

2153
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:09,720
John C Dvorak: Sir, sir. Tooth
Fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana.

2154
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:14,460
Happy eighth birthday to my
wonderful human resource, Layla.

2155
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:18,180
Please add her to the list she's
added and give her a biscuit.

2156
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:21,920
Unknown: They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday, and

2157
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:25,700
John C Dvorak: he came in with
$223 or tooth fairy, $200.02

2158
01:59:27,380 --> 01:59:30,380
Adam Curry: a palindrome. Austin
McCullough from Hudson,

2159
01:59:30,380 --> 01:59:36,920
Wisconsin. Refer to email.
Hashtag, rates, 101, I looked.

2160
01:59:36,980 --> 01:59:44,740
I'm sure you looked. I did you
receive an email? No, I hate it

2161
01:59:44,740 --> 01:59:45,940
when that happens. Well,

2162
01:59:45,940 --> 01:59:48,340
John C Dvorak: let me take one
more look. I never looked under

2163
01:59:48,340 --> 01:59:49,600
right? So you want it so you can

2164
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:53,140
Adam Curry: send that to notes,
N, O, T, E, S, notes at No.

2165
01:59:53,140 --> 01:59:57,460
Agenda show.net, by the way,
while you're at it, go to no

2166
01:59:57,460 --> 02:00:00,420
agenda show.net, if you just and
you can send people. To that. If

2167
02:00:00,420 --> 02:00:03,240
you just want them to learn
about the show, there's a lot of

2168
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:05,760
good stuff there that takes a
lot of the podcasting, 2.0

2169
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:10,980
elements, chapters, transcripts,
it's all there. It's a very

2170
02:00:10,980 --> 02:00:14,040
John C Dvorak: similar title.
Under that title, no, no, I'd

2171
02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:17,220
Adam Curry: look too. So resend
it to us. We'll make good if we

2172
02:00:17,220 --> 02:00:19,860
need to. Austin. Thank you very
much, and we might as well like

2173
02:00:19,860 --> 02:00:22,400
give them a double up karma.
Then for the lost note, you've

2174
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:25,700
got karma.

2175
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:29,900
John C Dvorak: And there we go.
Linda Lou packin from Lakewood,

2176
02:00:29,900 --> 02:00:32,960
Colorado, jobs karma is what she
wants. And she says, For a

2177
02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:36,380
competitive edge, go to
imagemakers, inc.com, for all

2178
02:00:36,380 --> 02:00:39,620
your executive resume and job
search needs, that's

2179
02:00:39,620 --> 02:00:43,780
imagemakers. Inc, with the k.com
or just find Linda Lou Duchess

2180
02:00:43,780 --> 02:00:47,260
of jobs and writer of resumes on
the producer list,

2181
02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:52,360
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

2182
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:56,800
Adam Curry: And that wraps up
our executive and Associate

2183
02:00:56,800 --> 02:01:03,120
Executive producers for Episode
1693 on our way to 1700 That'll

2184
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:09,720
be exciting to celebrate 1700
episodes with you, John, 1700 we

2185
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:13,080
were talking, we were talking
about relationships the other

2186
02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:15,600
day. And like, that's funny,
John and I don't really have a

2187
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:22,040
relationship. We just, I guess
we have a working relationship,

2188
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:22,220
but

2189
02:01:22,220 --> 02:01:26,000
John C Dvorak: we just, we're we
talk professionally, yes,

2190
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,880
Adam Curry: but after, I mean,
I've been with you in three

2191
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:32,780
years, and remember, four more
to go, I will have been with you

2192
02:01:32,780 --> 02:01:34,760
longer than any of my marriages.

2193
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:37,880
John C Dvorak: Well, that's to
be expected,

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Adam Curry: and we never had a
fight. It's beautiful. Thank you

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Unknown: our formula is this, we
go out. We hit people in the

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mouth. Shut

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02:02:19,140 --> 02:02:24,740
up. Slay. Shut up. Shut up.
Slave,

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shut up. Slave, shut up. All
right, get

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John C Dvorak: one international
clip out of the way.

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Adam Curry: Oh boy.
International clip riots

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John C Dvorak: in France. France
the new prime minister.

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Everyone's bent out of shape
about this guy? Yes,

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Adam Curry: is it France? New pm
protests? Is that that would

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Unknown: be itchy, angry
demonstrators from the left

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turned out across France to
protest President Emmanuel

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02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:53,560
Macron decision to appoint a
Conservative Prime Minister

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02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:56,620
rather than a candidate from
among their ranks and Paris.

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Eleanor Beardsley reports, while
no party got a majority, the

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02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:03,780
leftist coalition got the most
votes in a snap legislative

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elections this summer. Voters on
the left say they're the ones

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02:03:09,900 --> 02:03:13,080
who kept the far right from
taking power. Yet their votes

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02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:15,600
are not being respected in the
choice of the new prime

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02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:19,860
minister. They accused Macron of
stealing the election. Macron's

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02:03:19,860 --> 02:03:24,200
choice was 70 year old Michel
bounier, a veteran politician

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02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:27,680
who he sees as a steady hand for
the country after divisive

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02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:31,640
elections. But protesters are
demanding a prime minister from

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the left and a political program
that will begin with bringing

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02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:39,380
the retirement age back down to
62 they say their protests will

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02:03:39,380 --> 02:03:40,100
continue.

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Adam Curry: Well, this is and
actually, I have a follow on

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02:03:42,340 --> 02:03:44,680
clip to this, because I've been
following this as well. This is

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02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:49,360
bull crap, because it was really
the far right who got most of

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02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:55,000
the votes, but the left, the
entire left and center said, Oh

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02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:59,020
no, we're not going to let you
into govern we're going to all

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02:03:59,020 --> 02:04:02,220
be together. And even though we
hate each other and can't decide

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02:04:02,220 --> 02:04:05,220
on anything, we just don't want
you far right to run the

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02:04:05,220 --> 02:04:08,640
country. And so then, and then
they go out and which, I think

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02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:12,240
this is actually a kind of a
good choice

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02:04:13,140 --> 02:04:16,620
John C Dvorak: for the guy's
pretty uh even keeled, yeah, I

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02:04:16,620 --> 02:04:17,880
think it's a good choice too.

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02:04:17,940 --> 02:04:22,220
Adam Curry: Yeah. I mean, he, by
the way, far right is bull crap,

2238
02:04:22,220 --> 02:04:26,780
because this guy, actually, I
have a who is Michel Barnier.

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02:04:26,780 --> 02:04:27,740
Clip. Who is

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Unknown: Michel Barnier,
France's new prime minister.

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02:04:30,500 --> 02:04:33,200
Michel Barnier is a member of
the Republicans, a right wing

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02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:36,800
political party. The 73 year old
is set to be the oldest Prime

2243
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:39,500
Minister in modern France's
Fifth Republic history,

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02:04:39,620 --> 02:04:42,880
replacing 34 year old Gabriel
Ital, who was the youngest

2245
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:45,160
Barnier, is a seasoned
politician with a diverse

2246
02:04:45,160 --> 02:04:47,800
background as a foreign
agriculture and Environment

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02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:50,860
Minister in numerous governments
in the world of European

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02:04:50,860 --> 02:04:53,620
politics. However, he is better
known for his former role as the

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02:04:53,620 --> 02:04:57,280
EU's Brexit negotiator, which
earned him the nickname Monsieur

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Brexit as Brussels top
negotiator. Barnier made a name

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02:05:00,900 --> 02:05:04,620
for himself as a strong defender
of EU institutions against the

2252
02:05:04,620 --> 02:05:07,860
UK's nationalist Brexit
politicians like Boris Johnson

2253
02:05:07,860 --> 02:05:11,400
in 2021 however, there came a
shift when Barnier ran for the

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02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:14,520
presidency against Macron,
transitioning from a pro EU

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02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:19,380
politician to embracing a French
nationalist stance. He advocated

2256
02:05:19,380 --> 02:05:22,220
for the superiority of French
sovereignty over the EU,

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02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:25,820
offering to develop a non EU
immigration policy. He also

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02:05:25,820 --> 02:05:28,160
opposed the powers of the
European Court of Justice and

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02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:30,800
the European Court of Human
Rights over the French states.

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02:05:30,860 --> 02:05:35,660
Barney's Republicans party only
has 39 deputies out of 577 seats

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02:05:35,660 --> 02:05:38,300
in the National Assembly, and
will need the support of far

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02:05:38,300 --> 02:05:41,740
right leader Marine Le Pen's
national rally party Le Pen has

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02:05:41,740 --> 02:05:44,500
said she would wait for Bonnie's
first policy speech in front of

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02:05:44,500 --> 02:05:47,860
Parliament to decide whether to
back him. If she does, it would

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02:05:47,860 --> 02:05:50,860
be a far right backed government
under Macron. Far Right. He has

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02:05:50,860 --> 02:05:53,740
long portrayed himself as the
last defense against the rise of

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02:05:53,740 --> 02:05:57,220
Le Pen. The question is, has
Macron handed the far right a

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02:05:57,220 --> 02:05:58,540
major win? Far Right,

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02:06:01,060 --> 02:06:02,520
Adam Curry: you know, the French
should be delighted,

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02:06:03,060 --> 02:06:06,120
John C Dvorak: guys of he's a
French guy. He's French. Yes,

2271
02:06:06,180 --> 02:06:09,960
he's for France. He's a, you
know, the, yeah, he's a,

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02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,060
basically, a French guy.

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02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:14,820
Adam Curry: He they should be
delighted. Should be delighted

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02:06:14,820 --> 02:06:15,540
with him. No,

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02:06:15,540 --> 02:06:17,520
John C Dvorak: they're the
globalists, aren't they're they

2276
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:20,540
hate, they hate the French, they
hate the they hate all these

2277
02:06:20,540 --> 02:06:24,080
countries, they want to be one
giant, you know Reich,

2278
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:30,320
Adam Curry: exactly, and and if
Trump wins, you're going to see

2279
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:33,440
the same thing happen in the
United States. You're going to

2280
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:37,040
see the left nut jobs, the
globalists come out and go

2281
02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:41,620
insane. I can guarantee it.
There was always Trump doesn't

2282
02:06:41,620 --> 02:06:45,460
win, it's gonna be civil war.
Now, if Trump wins, they're all

2283
02:06:45,460 --> 02:06:48,580
gonna go ape crap, or, I should
say ape shit. Really

2284
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:52,960
John C Dvorak: ape crap. I'm so
show titles. I'm

2285
02:06:53,620 --> 02:06:56,860
Adam Curry: so used to saying
crap instead of shit that I said

2286
02:06:56,860 --> 02:07:00,600
ape crap doesn't sound right.
Don't you think

2287
02:07:01,860 --> 02:07:04,620
John C Dvorak: absolutely,
there's no doubt about it, that

2288
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:08,460
they're gonna kind of a replay
of 2016 although it's gonna have

2289
02:07:08,460 --> 02:07:10,320
to change some of their
strategies, because we're

2290
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:13,740
getting sick of the old
arguments. And the people that

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02:07:13,740 --> 02:07:17,220
are that are coming out, are the
ones that I always retweeting.

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02:07:17,580 --> 02:07:21,140
Are they, you know, crazy
looking people that are look

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02:07:21,140 --> 02:07:24,140
like women or guys. You don't
even know what sex they are, and

2294
02:07:24,140 --> 02:07:27,740
they got the big nose rings
right in the nostril, nothing

2295
02:07:27,740 --> 02:07:29,780
right in the middle. I want a
cow.

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02:07:29,840 --> 02:07:31,880
Adam Curry: How many of those
people do you really think there

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02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:32,480
are?

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02:07:34,340 --> 02:07:37,640
John C Dvorak: I don't think
there's that many. No, but they

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02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:40,900
have a there's not a lot, but
they have a high profile, and

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02:07:40,900 --> 02:07:45,400
then they're fun to mock. And
there's a lot of teachers that

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02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:48,400
fall into that category, which
is really a scary part. That's,

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02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:52,960
Adam Curry: it's that's
distressing. Okay, I'm gonna

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02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:56,860
walk into your beat. I can't
help it, but this is it. Is your

2304
02:07:56,860 --> 02:08:00,040
beat, and I'm taking it down to
the depths you have not been

2305
02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:04,200
able to go before because
Kristen Welker, who doesn't know

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02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:06,360
her for Meet the Press, I

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02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:08,820
John C Dvorak: was watching her
this morning, and you did those

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02:08:08,820 --> 02:08:13,860
hands of hers. You're like an
old black laborer. They're huge

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02:08:13,860 --> 02:08:16,500
and they're they're not made up
at all. You know, you're

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02:08:16,500 --> 02:08:19,200
supposed to do hand makeup to
lighten them up or something.

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02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:19,620
Yeah,

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02:08:19,740 --> 02:08:20,900
Adam Curry: it does yellow. They

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02:08:21,020 --> 02:08:22,700
John C Dvorak: don't do anything
with their hands.

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02:08:24,620 --> 02:08:27,020
Adam Curry: We're looking at
this purely from a television

2315
02:08:27,020 --> 02:08:29,720
production standpoint, yeah,
yeah, obviously I don't care.

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02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:31,400
Well, I'm just making sure
everybody but

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02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:32,960
John C Dvorak: it is distressing
to watch it

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02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:37,340
Adam Curry: either don't use
your hands or yellow. Her up,

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02:08:37,340 --> 02:08:39,080
was what John just said. Okay,

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02:08:41,300 --> 02:08:43,540
John C Dvorak: well, they yell
her, they yellow her up, but

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they don't do anything with
their hands.

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02:08:45,460 --> 02:08:47,920
Adam Curry: I know which I, you
know, I'm

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02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:49,960
John C Dvorak: very pale. So
when they, when I was doing TV,

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02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:53,200
yeah, they would make me up your
hands and do the same. I always,

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02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:55,900
you always tell them that you
have to tell the makeup artist

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02:08:55,900 --> 02:09:00,300
to do it, because they rather
not. But you tell them you get

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02:09:00,300 --> 02:09:02,340
through some of my hands
because, because if you're, if

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02:09:02,340 --> 02:09:04,440
you're made up, and you're
darkened up a little bit, and

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02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:08,520
then you lift your hand, it
looks like a skeletal hand was

2330
02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:11,640
super white, you know. It
doesn't work. And so, yeah, and

2331
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:14,580
they make up ours always, oh
yes, yes, yes, that's a good

2332
02:09:14,580 --> 02:09:15,180
idea, you know.

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02:09:15,300 --> 02:09:18,180
Adam Curry: And by the way,
these days, I mean, a lot has

2334
02:09:18,180 --> 02:09:21,200
changed since we were in
television, John, in fact, the

2335
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:24,620
biggest change is we used to
have blue screen. Now it's green

2336
02:09:24,620 --> 02:09:28,460
screen. People, that's how old
we are. I remember when it was

2337
02:09:28,460 --> 02:09:29,540
blue screen,

2338
02:09:31,460 --> 02:09:33,080
John C Dvorak: but also screen
was the original.

2339
02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:39,320
Adam Curry: Yeah, the original
key, key color. But now,

2340
02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:44,140
nowadays they don't have pancake
makeup. They have spray. It's a

2341
02:09:44,140 --> 02:09:48,760
spray on, and you just go and
spray right on. So they could

2342
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:53,020
easily spray the hands. It'll
take 30 seconds, 30 seconds to

2343
02:09:53,020 --> 02:09:57,640
spray the hands. Anyway, yeah,
so I am diving into a trend,

2344
02:09:57,640 --> 02:10:01,500
which you identified months and
months ago. Ago as something

2345
02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:05,040
new, something that is probably
well, that has always been the

2346
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:07,980
question, is it even
constitutional? And here's the

2347
02:10:07,980 --> 02:10:09,420
opening salvo, 54

2348
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:13,980
Unknown: year old father, Colin
gray faces 14 charges, including

2349
02:10:13,980 --> 02:10:17,040
four counts of involuntary
manslaughter, two counts of

2350
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:20,420
second degree murder and eight
counts of Cruelty to Children.

2351
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:23,480
The director of the Georgia
Bureau of Investigation saying

2352
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:26,480
the father, quote, knowingly
allowed his son to possess a

2353
02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:30,380
weapon. Law enforcement sources
telling NBC News he gifted his

2354
02:10:30,380 --> 02:10:35,240
son an AR 15 style rifle after
both of them were interviewed in

2355
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:39,500
May of 2023 by the FBI in
connection with threats to carry

2356
02:10:39,500 --> 02:10:42,940
out a school shooting. Colin
Gray's arrest comes just months

2357
02:10:42,940 --> 02:10:45,340
after James and Jennifer
Crumbley became the first

2358
02:10:45,340 --> 02:10:48,100
parents to be convicted for a
school shooting committed by

2359
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their child. Their son killed
four students in Oxford,

2360
02:10:51,700 --> 02:10:53,620
Michigan in 2021 so

2361
02:10:53,620 --> 02:10:56,140
Adam Curry: you identified this
right away as a new trend, which

2362
02:10:56,140 --> 02:11:00,040
is lock the parents up for the
things that the kids have done

2363
02:11:00,520 --> 02:11:01,200
and we've seen

2364
02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:05,100
John C Dvorak: and I to go
further, I I believe it to be a

2365
02:11:05,100 --> 02:11:09,300
racist trend, because I think
the long term target is the

2366
02:11:09,300 --> 02:11:10,320
black family.

2367
02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:13,920
Adam Curry: That's right,
because about that, yes, I'd

2368
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:14,400
forgotten

2369
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:16,680
John C Dvorak: about this, and I
believe this is just opening

2370
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:19,680
salvos. So you can say, Well, we
did it the whites, and now we

2371
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:21,800
can do it the blacks, and
they're going to go when they go

2372
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:24,440
when they go after the black
family, especially those single

2373
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:28,880
moms who raise a bunch of kids
that aren't are not well well

2374
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:32,180
behaved. Let's put it that way.
There. It's going to cause

2375
02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:34,460
issues, but they've got, they're
going to, they're going to back

2376
02:11:34,460 --> 02:11:37,640
it up with it, doing it to the
white families, at least one or

2377
02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:40,960
two more. Then, then you're
going to see it happened, and

2378
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:42,580
it's going to cause nothing but
trouble.

2379
02:11:43,060 --> 02:11:45,100
Adam Curry: So of course, this
was politicized. I'm actually

2380
02:11:45,100 --> 02:11:48,280
going to skip that. Joe Biden,
you know, like, oh, it's guns in

2381
02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:53,500
America. JD, Vance, fact of
life, got to arm this teachers.

2382
02:11:53,500 --> 02:11:58,360
We got to make sure no one to
come to but more important and

2383
02:11:58,360 --> 02:12:02,880
more interesting to myself, you
and the show is, how does this

2384
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:05,460
work? How does this work?
Legally? Danny,

2385
02:12:05,460 --> 02:12:08,040
Unknown: let me turn to you. The
charges against the suspect's

2386
02:12:08,220 --> 02:12:12,240
father are unusual, but not
unprecedented. What do you make

2387
02:12:12,240 --> 02:12:14,040
of them and put them into
context for

2388
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:15,540
Adam Curry: what say you for us,
if

2389
02:12:15,540 --> 02:12:18,600
Unknown: you can, we're in a
moment in American history where

2390
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:21,560
it seems like there's a sea
change for all of American

2391
02:12:21,560 --> 02:12:24,920
history, we have not held
parents criminally responsible

2392
02:12:25,220 --> 02:12:28,580
for the crimes of their children
unless they participate or

2393
02:12:28,760 --> 02:12:34,160
facilitate the crime. This is a
major change in that we are

2394
02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:37,520
charging parents with murder, in
this case, not intentional

2395
02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:40,840
murder. This is a version of
reckless murder. Not all murder

2396
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:44,740
statutes or crimes are
intentional murder. Sometimes,

2397
02:12:44,920 --> 02:12:48,100
if you are reckless, you can be
charged with depraved heart,

2398
02:12:48,100 --> 02:12:51,940
style murder, reckless murder,
criminal negligence. And that's

2399
02:12:51,940 --> 02:12:54,580
exactly what's going on here.
The father is being charged.

2400
02:12:54,580 --> 02:12:54,940
What

2401
02:12:55,600 --> 02:12:58,300
John C Dvorak: does this like?
Reckless murder like when they

2402
02:12:58,300 --> 02:13:01,740
killed Garrett Weaver's up there
in this compound, killed his

2403
02:13:01,740 --> 02:13:06,060
wife with a sniper, just FBI.
Sniper just shot his wife who

2404
02:13:06,060 --> 02:13:08,280
had nothing to do with anything.
He killed him dead.

2405
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:12,300
Adam Curry: That was dog. That
was law enforcement. But

2406
02:13:12,300 --> 02:13:12,780
standby.

2407
02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:13,740
John C Dvorak: It's different.

2408
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:16,680
Adam Curry: It's different than
whatever they want. Okay, it's

2409
02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:19,980
lawfare to the highest degree.
It's coming up. That's

2410
02:13:19,980 --> 02:13:22,580
Unknown: exactly what's going on
here. The father is being

2411
02:13:22,580 --> 02:13:26,360
charged with under Georgia law,
you can be charged with second

2412
02:13:26,360 --> 02:13:29,780
degree murder as a result of
Cruelty to Children. That's a

2413
02:13:29,780 --> 02:13:33,920
separate criminal statute that
requires criminal negligence and

2414
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:37,760
some kind of harm to a child.
And that criminal negligence is

2415
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:40,280
defined as essentially
recklessness, consciously

2416
02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:43,960
disregarding a known risk, and
that's where the FBI tape comes

2417
02:13:43,960 --> 02:13:47,560
in, because the government is
going to use that to show that

2418
02:13:47,560 --> 02:13:51,760
he was aware of the risk well in
advance and failed to act

2419
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:52,900
properly. So

2420
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:58,000
Adam Curry: I love this because
the FBI did nothing. They failed

2421
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:02,460
to act properly, but the parent
is now to blame because they

2422
02:14:02,460 --> 02:14:06,300
failed to act properly, even
though law enforcement was

2423
02:14:06,300 --> 02:14:10,260
called in, and this morning, I
even read that the mother had

2424
02:14:10,260 --> 02:14:14,520
sent had called the school and
said, you use like imminent

2425
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:15,300
threat. So

2426
02:14:15,300 --> 02:14:17,640
Unknown: Danny, help us just
break down some of these

2427
02:14:17,820 --> 02:14:20,540
charges, their second degree
murder charges they're

2428
02:14:20,540 --> 02:14:25,520
apparently based on the Cruelty
to Children charges break that

2429
02:14:25,520 --> 02:14:28,700
down with how they differ from
the eight counts of Cruelty to

2430
02:14:28,700 --> 02:14:32,120
Children charges, he's being
separately charged with Cruelty

2431
02:14:32,120 --> 02:14:36,140
to Children, but that particular
section of the murder statute,

2432
02:14:36,140 --> 02:14:40,240
second degree murder requires a
predicate of Cruelty to

2433
02:14:40,240 --> 02:14:44,380
Children. So while freestanding
charge by itself, it is also the

2434
02:14:44,380 --> 02:14:47,560
predicate to second degree
murder. It works like this.

2435
02:14:47,740 --> 02:14:51,460
Second degree murder is defined
as, in this case, Cruelty to

2436
02:14:51,460 --> 02:14:55,360
Children, plus a death resulting
from that Cruelty to Children.

2437
02:14:55,600 --> 02:14:58,420
Then you go to the cruelty
statute, and that requires some

2438
02:14:58,420 --> 02:15:02,880
harm to a child. And. As a
result of criminal negligence or

2439
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:05,700
recklessness, and then you go to
the definition of recklessness,

2440
02:15:05,820 --> 02:15:08,940
and that's what it is. It's
consciously disregarding a known

2441
02:15:08,940 --> 02:15:12,240
risk. You're also going to need
what's called proximate cause.

2442
02:15:12,420 --> 02:15:16,680
In other words, foreseeability.
Was the criminal negligence here

2443
02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:20,720
not only the actual cause of the
death, but was it foreseeable?

2444
02:15:20,720 --> 02:15:23,300
And that's a very interesting
concept in the modern era,

2445
02:15:23,300 --> 02:15:26,900
because it now appears that,
unlike most of American history,

2446
02:15:26,960 --> 02:15:31,520
modern juries may be willing to
accept that it is foreseeable if

2447
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:34,580
you have a troubled child and
that child has access to a gun,

2448
02:15:34,760 --> 02:15:38,600
that a horrific school shooting
may result. We may be in a new

2449
02:15:38,600 --> 02:15:41,560
era of criminal foreseeability.
Criminal

2450
02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:44,980
Adam Curry: foreseeability. Wow,

2451
02:15:45,040 --> 02:15:47,140
John C Dvorak: pre crime,
totally. Let's

2452
02:15:47,140 --> 02:15:49,420
Unknown: talk about this new
era. Because, of course, the

2453
02:15:49,420 --> 02:15:53,860
crumblies in Michigan again,
their son charged with a school

2454
02:15:53,860 --> 02:15:58,540
shooting as well, put all of
this into context and that sea

2455
02:15:58,540 --> 02:16:01,320
change that we witnessed when
the crumb leaves were convicted.

2456
02:16:02,340 --> 02:16:05,340
Yes, exactly, even though it's
not precedential in the sense

2457
02:16:05,340 --> 02:16:08,580
that it's only a trial court in
Michigan. And of course, this

2458
02:16:08,580 --> 02:16:12,060
case is in Georgia. It doesn't
have legal precedent, but it

2459
02:16:12,060 --> 02:16:15,840
certainly is a spiritual
precedent, in the sense that

2460
02:16:16,140 --> 02:16:20,180
prosecutors now watch the
crumbly case they know they may

2461
02:16:20,180 --> 02:16:22,400
have to deal with a horrific
school shooting in their

2462
02:16:22,400 --> 02:16:27,020
jurisdiction, and it is likely a
form of inspiration. It is proof

2463
02:16:27,080 --> 02:16:31,100
that you can use a recklessness
theory against a parent and

2464
02:16:31,100 --> 02:16:34,280
convict them. And it's important
to note that not all states have

2465
02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:37,340
the same laws when it comes to
securing firearms or locking

2466
02:16:37,340 --> 02:16:40,420
them up and keeping them away
from children. That isn't

2467
02:16:40,420 --> 02:16:44,500
necessary. This is a straight
criminal recklessness statute.

2468
02:16:44,620 --> 02:16:47,380
You could apply it to driving a
car. You could apply it to

2469
02:16:47,380 --> 02:16:51,700
owning a firearm. So prosecutors
will not be limited so much by

2470
02:16:51,700 --> 02:16:54,760
all these different statutes
about keeping firearms locked

2471
02:16:54,760 --> 02:16:58,120
up. If they can show that there
was recklessness, that a risk

2472
02:16:58,120 --> 02:17:01,440
was disregarded and it resulted
in the death, they've got enough

2473
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:02,100
to go forward.

2474
02:17:02,640 --> 02:17:08,160
Adam Curry: Can this also apply
to your spouse? You know, it's

2475
02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:11,880
like, oh, Adam, always, yeah,

2476
02:17:12,959 --> 02:17:15,299
John C Dvorak: you could, you
could go with this. I think this

2477
02:17:15,299 --> 02:17:17,939
is a trend. It's going to
happen. And I'm actually, I'm

2478
02:17:17,939 --> 02:17:21,079
surprised the mom has who's a
fentanyl or crackhead. I don't

2479
02:17:21,079 --> 02:17:23,659
know what. Something's wrong
with her. They should have been

2480
02:17:23,659 --> 02:17:26,779
brought into the they're
separated, so I guess I can.

2481
02:17:26,839 --> 02:17:30,199
It's gonna be harder to prove,
but the mom should have been

2482
02:17:30,199 --> 02:17:34,999
arrested too. Seems to me, this
is just this. How about how my

2483
02:17:34,999 --> 02:17:39,499
thoughts on this be began with a
number of years ago, when when

2484
02:17:39,499 --> 02:17:43,119
it was announced that somebody
who did a shooting, a similar

2485
02:17:43,119 --> 02:17:47,199
kind of shooting in Latvia or
Lithuania or someplace like

2486
02:17:47,199 --> 02:17:49,899
that, and they immediately
arrested the parents. It wasn't

2487
02:17:49,899 --> 02:17:53,379
even a second thought about it,
I remember, and as soon as I

2488
02:17:53,379 --> 02:17:56,439
heard audio, this has got it.
This is obvious. Is what you do.

2489
02:17:58,059 --> 02:18:01,619
It's an anti crime idea. How,

2490
02:18:01,620 --> 02:18:06,900
Adam Curry: how will that also
apply to podcast partners? If

2491
02:18:06,900 --> 02:18:08,220
you just go eventually,

2492
02:18:08,939 --> 02:18:11,819
John C Dvorak: eventually, but
it's years away. That's, I

2493
02:18:11,999 --> 02:18:14,759
wouldn't worry about it. We're
getting there. Okay. Now

2494
02:18:14,879 --> 02:18:17,399
shooting any place you're the
one to be shooting somewhat

2495
02:18:17,399 --> 02:18:20,599
place up in your what I'm saying
is, armed to the teeth in Texas,

2496
02:18:20,660 --> 02:18:22,820
Adam Curry: you shouldn't worry
about it. Is what you meant to

2497
02:18:22,820 --> 02:18:25,520
say. Don't worry about it for
now. Yeah, I should worry about

2498
02:18:25,520 --> 02:18:28,760
it yet. Four more years, yet.
Hang in there. Four more years.

2499
02:18:31,460 --> 02:18:35,840
Boeing continues to be in the
news, this time with the

2500
02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:37,160
Starliner. It was

2501
02:18:37,160 --> 02:18:40,040
Unknown: just about midnight,
Eastern Time, when starliners,

2502
02:18:40,040 --> 02:18:44,200
three main shoots lit up in the
night sky over New Mexico.

2503
02:18:44,680 --> 02:18:47,860
Touchdown, Starliner is back on
Earth,

2504
02:18:48,160 --> 02:18:51,820
a 10 day mission that turned
into a three month stay at the

2505
02:18:51,820 --> 02:18:55,600
International Space Station.
Coming to a partial conclusion,

2506
02:18:56,140 --> 02:18:56,320
it's

2507
02:18:56,319 --> 02:19:00,099
great to have the Starliner
home. A safe and successful

2508
02:19:00,099 --> 02:19:03,359
landing was exactly what we
wanted staying behind

2509
02:19:03,360 --> 02:19:06,540
on the station astronauts Butch
Wilmore and Sonny Williams, who

2510
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:10,380
this week, prepped their
spaceship to return home empty.

2511
02:19:10,980 --> 02:19:11,100
Of

2512
02:19:11,100 --> 02:19:14,280
course, it's bittersweet to be
packing up Starliner do the best

2513
02:19:14,280 --> 02:19:16,860
we can to make sure she's in
good shape. So we want her to

2514
02:19:16,860 --> 02:19:18,420
have nice soft landing in the
desert.

2515
02:19:19,740 --> 02:19:24,440
Starliner launched June 5 on a
10 day test flight, but helium

2516
02:19:24,440 --> 02:19:27,440
leaks and engine thruster
problems have kept Williams and

2517
02:19:27,440 --> 02:19:32,120
Wilmore on the space station for
93 days, haunted by the Columbia

2518
02:19:32,120 --> 02:19:35,660
disaster that killed seven
astronauts, NASA decided not to

2519
02:19:35,660 --> 02:19:39,140
risk putting the crew back on
Starliner. NASA

2520
02:19:39,140 --> 02:19:45,640
has decided that Butch and Sunny
will return with crew nine next

2521
02:19:45,640 --> 02:19:46,720
February, that

2522
02:19:46,720 --> 02:19:49,720
SpaceX crew nine mission will
launch later this month, with

2523
02:19:49,720 --> 02:19:53,200
two astronauts rather than four,
Williams and will Moore will

2524
02:19:53,200 --> 02:19:56,920
take the empty seats on return
until then, running science

2525
02:19:56,920 --> 02:20:00,360
experiments and doing cardio and
strength exercise. Is during

2526
02:20:00,360 --> 02:20:04,140
their extended stay on station,
their 10 day mission now

2527
02:20:04,140 --> 02:20:05,940
extended to eight months.

2528
02:20:06,300 --> 02:20:10,320
Adam Curry: I There's a lot of
great theories out there in the

2529
02:20:10,380 --> 02:20:14,640
conspiracy circles about this
event. My favorite house, I

2530
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:17,160
would like to hear a few. Oh,
they're dead.

2531
02:20:21,300 --> 02:20:23,900
John C Dvorak: I think that's a
bit much. Yeah, from

2532
02:20:23,900 --> 02:20:27,080
Adam Curry: their dead to they
actually didn't go to space.

2533
02:20:27,080 --> 02:20:32,540
They were down in the oceans,
working on a different project,

2534
02:20:32,540 --> 02:20:35,540
and they're trapped and they
can't get out. There's a lot of

2535
02:20:35,540 --> 02:20:37,220
great theories out there. Is

2536
02:20:37,520 --> 02:20:39,740
John C Dvorak: that sounds like
nothing, but fun. Yeah, I like

2537
02:20:39,740 --> 02:20:42,400
it. I would like to know if
there is, assume that these are

2538
02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:44,860
all bull, bull crap, and they're
not dead. They're stuck up

2539
02:20:44,860 --> 02:20:47,320
there. They're going to come
back with the with the Elon Musk

2540
02:20:47,740 --> 02:20:52,840
device. The question that
nobody's if I'm a journalist,

2541
02:20:52,840 --> 02:20:56,380
I'm asking this question, how
much are they getting paid? Are

2542
02:20:56,380 --> 02:20:59,440
they getting overtime for being
stuck in this because they're

2543
02:20:59,440 --> 02:21:02,280
supposed to go up and come back,
and there are test pilots

2544
02:21:02,280 --> 02:21:08,700
working for Boeing. How is
Boeing paying them like a bonus,

2545
02:21:08,700 --> 02:21:12,060
or because they don't seem to be
complaining about it? Is they're

2546
02:21:12,060 --> 02:21:14,700
up in this, in the in the space
station, they seem to be

2547
02:21:14,700 --> 02:21:17,040
running, you know, she's her
hair is sticking out every which

2548
02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:19,560
way, and having a good time.

2549
02:21:19,980 --> 02:21:22,160
Adam Curry: You do in the fake
space station, you make your

2550
02:21:22,160 --> 02:21:23,660
hair if you, if you

2551
02:21:23,660 --> 02:21:27,440
John C Dvorak: were, if you were
in the station and you were

2552
02:21:27,440 --> 02:21:31,880
making hundreds of 1000s of
dollars in overtime because

2553
02:21:31,880 --> 02:21:34,820
enough to pay you 24/7, which
means there's time and a half,

2554
02:21:34,820 --> 02:21:38,120
double time, triple time, who
knows what? Yeah, I'd be happy

2555
02:21:38,120 --> 02:21:43,180
to they don't complain. So. But
does anyone ask this question,

2556
02:21:43,180 --> 02:21:47,380
and why don't they ask this
question? Who? What compensation

2557
02:21:47,380 --> 02:21:50,800
are they getting financially for
being stuck up there? For the

2558
02:21:50,800 --> 02:21:51,160
same

2559
02:21:51,160 --> 02:21:53,020
Adam Curry: reason, you're
getting compensated as a

2560
02:21:53,020 --> 02:21:56,320
podcaster, instead of a
journalist with the mainstream

2561
02:21:58,900 --> 02:22:01,260
John C Dvorak: identify, make
more money as a podcaster than I

2562
02:22:01,260 --> 02:22:04,800
do, is the journalists don't
make anything. Yeah, it just,

2563
02:22:04,920 --> 02:22:07,980
it's a pathetic industry. Is a
pathetic business, and most of

2564
02:22:07,980 --> 02:22:10,860
the journalists, unless you're
on network TV and you're making

2565
02:22:10,860 --> 02:22:15,360
millions, which is a rare group,
most of the writers are just

2566
02:22:15,360 --> 02:22:16,260
starving to death,

2567
02:22:16,860 --> 02:22:19,380
Adam Curry: or they're the side
hustles. As

2568
02:22:20,820 --> 02:22:23,240
John C Dvorak: another thing,
the word side hustle bothers me.

2569
02:22:23,780 --> 02:22:26,600
Adam Curry: I brought it up for
you, just to get you riled up. I

2570
02:22:26,600 --> 02:22:27,800
know that you hate that.

2571
02:22:28,820 --> 02:22:30,980
John C Dvorak: It's like a
hustle means you're scamming. To

2572
02:22:30,980 --> 02:22:34,880
me, a Huss, I'm a hustler. I'm
scamming somebody. So in other

2573
02:22:34,880 --> 02:22:37,100
words, you're working for a
living and you've got a side

2574
02:22:37,100 --> 02:22:41,320
hustle, which means, to me, it
means you're a criminal. It may,

2575
02:22:41,320 --> 02:22:44,020
if you someone says, I got a
side hustle and do it as a side

2576
02:22:44,020 --> 02:22:47,620
hustle, I would say, then you're
this is a criminal activity.

2577
02:22:47,680 --> 02:22:53,260
That's only thing. That's my
definition of it a hustle, all

2578
02:22:53,260 --> 02:22:57,520
right. I mean, you don't have
any pushback on me saying, No,

2579
02:22:57,520 --> 02:22:59,200
you're foolish crap. No,

2580
02:22:59,860 --> 02:23:02,220
Adam Curry: I'm with you. I
think you're absolutely right

2581
02:23:02,280 --> 02:23:08,460
side hustle is, is a bad a bad
term, I think so. Yeah, do you

2582
02:23:08,700 --> 02:23:11,580
okay? What would you prefer to
be called? So we can address

2583
02:23:11,580 --> 02:23:12,720
this appropriate second

2584
02:23:12,720 --> 02:23:16,320
John C Dvorak: job. Second
second job. Oh,

2585
02:23:16,320 --> 02:23:23,660
Adam Curry: it is weekend gig.
There you go. Now, Boeing has

2586
02:23:23,720 --> 02:23:28,340
finally caught a break and not
widely reported, so they've got

2587
02:23:28,340 --> 02:23:30,020
to step up. The PR boys,

2588
02:23:30,080 --> 02:23:33,320
Unknown: the world's biggest
airlines, is canceling dozens of

2589
02:23:33,320 --> 02:23:37,940
flights over concerns about
possible engine problems. Cathay

2590
02:23:37,940 --> 02:23:43,240
Pacific is inspecting its entire
fleet of Airbus A 350s after

2591
02:23:43,240 --> 02:23:48,460
part of an engine failed on a
flight from Hong Kong to Zurich,

2592
02:23:48,520 --> 02:23:52,000
the plane was forced to return
to Hong Kong and landed safely.

2593
02:23:52,060 --> 02:23:55,240
Cathay Pacific says repair work
is now underway across its

2594
02:23:55,300 --> 02:24:01,020
entire fleet of a 350s CNN,
Hannah's Yadi is on the story

2595
02:24:01,020 --> 02:24:04,620
for us and Hannah Cathay Pacific
now making repairs as it

2596
02:24:04,620 --> 02:24:10,320
inspects these models. How
concerned should consumers and

2597
02:24:10,320 --> 02:24:14,280
other airlines be at this point
that this could be a wider

2598
02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:15,180
issue? Speaking,

2599
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:17,880
it's unclear at this stage. I
think the answer to that is that

2600
02:24:17,940 --> 02:24:20,720
there are some concerns. And
clearly several other airlines

2601
02:24:20,720 --> 02:24:24,380
fly a 350s and have you know,
engines that could have this

2602
02:24:24,380 --> 02:24:27,560
issue. Qatar is among them,
Etihad, British, airways,

2603
02:24:27,560 --> 02:24:31,220
Virgin, Atlantic. Rolls Royce,
which is the engine maker that

2604
02:24:31,340 --> 02:24:33,800
makes the engines on these
planes, has said that it's

2605
02:24:33,800 --> 02:24:36,920
keeping airlines fully informed
of developments, but hasn't yet

2606
02:24:36,920 --> 02:24:40,960
told airlines to stop flying the
planes. As far as we understand,

2607
02:24:41,020 --> 02:24:44,440
Rolls Royce hasn't commented on
exactly what the issue is with

2608
02:24:44,440 --> 02:24:47,320
the engine. Reuters, citing
people familiar with the matter,

2609
02:24:47,320 --> 02:24:50,380
said it relates to a fuel
nozzle, which experts say is

2610
02:24:50,380 --> 02:24:53,560
generally less serious of a
problem than the failure of a

2611
02:24:53,560 --> 02:24:57,640
major rotating part of the
plane, such as a turbine blade.

2612
02:24:57,640 --> 02:25:01,440
But clearly this could be very.
Disruptive for airlines, and

2613
02:25:01,440 --> 02:25:04,260
certainly, as you alluded to in
the beginning, it has been very

2614
02:25:04,260 --> 02:25:07,680
disruptive for Cathay Pacific,
which has had to cancel some 34

2615
02:25:07,860 --> 02:25:11,400
flights between Monday and
Wednesday as it attends to this

2616
02:25:11,400 --> 02:25:11,940
problem.

2617
02:25:12,060 --> 02:25:16,020
Adam Curry: So not exactly an
Airbus issue, but if I was

2618
02:25:16,080 --> 02:25:20,300
Boeing, not at all. But if I was
Boeing, I'd be out there saying,

2619
02:25:20,300 --> 02:25:25,580
see their bus, no good, at least
for the public, at least for the

2620
02:25:25,580 --> 02:25:28,700
public. The public, you know,
there's no attention to

2621
02:25:28,700 --> 02:25:31,280
themselves, yeah, well, there's
maybe they got enough problems

2622
02:25:31,280 --> 02:25:36,200
with it, with the dead
astronauts, I hear you. It's a

2623
02:25:36,200 --> 02:25:41,020
real problem. And then this
news, which is just not getting,

2624
02:25:43,000 --> 02:25:46,000
really, not really, getting the
attention it deserves. Here's

2625
02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:46,960
the teaser. The

2626
02:25:46,960 --> 02:25:48,160
Unknown: FBI raided the homes

2627
02:25:48,160 --> 02:25:52,000
of several New York City Mayor
Eric Adams top deputies federal

2628
02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:55,420
agencies electronic devices from
the police commissioner, the

2629
02:25:55,420 --> 02:25:58,840
school's chancellor and two
deputy mayors. None of the

2630
02:25:58,840 --> 02:26:02,160
officials have been charged with
a crime. The raids come nearly a

2631
02:26:02,160 --> 02:26:05,520
year after federal agencies the
mayor's electronic devices in a

2632
02:26:05,520 --> 02:26:09,660
federal corruption investigation
involving alleged donations made

2633
02:26:09,660 --> 02:26:12,600
by Turkish officials to his
campaign. So when

2634
02:26:12,600 --> 02:26:15,180
Adam Curry: I first saw this
report come through, I thought

2635
02:26:15,180 --> 02:26:17,760
it was old and like, didn't that
already happen? But this is a

2636
02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:24,020
continuation, and ABC this
morning had had more details,

2637
02:26:24,020 --> 02:26:26,780
which kind of helps us a little
bit in understanding what's

2638
02:26:26,780 --> 02:26:30,500
happening. This seems like a lot
of nepotism and all kinds of

2639
02:26:30,500 --> 02:26:31,700
stuff going on here. The

2640
02:26:31,700 --> 02:26:34,340
Unknown: Queen's home of the
city's Deputy Mayor of public

2641
02:26:34,340 --> 02:26:38,660
safety, Philip banks sits quiet.
Thursday afternoon, shutters

2642
02:26:38,660 --> 02:26:42,760
drawn after the FBI conducted a
search early Wednesday morning

2643
02:26:43,060 --> 02:26:46,660
and the Hamilton heights home of
the first deputy mayor Sheena

2644
02:26:46,660 --> 02:26:50,200
Wright, another one of New York
City Mayor Eric Adams closest

2645
02:26:50,200 --> 02:26:54,220
aides and friends also raided by
the FBI. Wright shares a home

2646
02:26:54,220 --> 02:26:57,460
with her partner New York City
Schools Chancellor David Banks,

2647
02:26:57,580 --> 02:27:01,680
Deputy Mayor banks brother.
Sources say the FBI seized

2648
02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:04,740
evidence, including electronics,
as part of an ongoing

2649
02:27:04,740 --> 02:27:08,100
investigation. Federal agents
have previously raided the homes

2650
02:27:08,100 --> 02:27:11,160
of several other associates of
Mayor Adams, who even turned

2651
02:27:11,160 --> 02:27:14,760
over his own electronic devices
to the FBI last fall and

2652
02:27:14,760 --> 02:27:16,980
received his own subpoena last
month.

2653
02:27:17,340 --> 02:27:20,160
The fact that these subpoenas
and documents have been seized

2654
02:27:20,400 --> 02:27:23,720
the homes raid of people very
close to the mayor should give

2655
02:27:23,720 --> 02:27:27,320
everyone pause, but it's a long
stretch between people around

2656
02:27:27,320 --> 02:27:30,140
the mayor being subpoenaed and
the mayor being in trouble. In

2657
02:27:30,140 --> 02:27:32,480
a statement, the mayor's chief
counsel said, quote,

2658
02:27:32,720 --> 02:27:36,560
investigators have not indicated
to us the mayor or his staff are

2659
02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:39,620
targets of any investigation. As
a former member of law

2660
02:27:39,620 --> 02:27:42,640
enforcement, the mayor has
repeatedly made clear that all

2661
02:27:42,640 --> 02:27:46,060
members of the team need to
follow the law. A source says

2662
02:27:46,060 --> 02:27:48,760
the searches do not appear to be
related to the long running

2663
02:27:48,760 --> 02:27:52,480
corruption investigation into
whether Mayor Adams campaign

2664
02:27:52,600 --> 02:27:56,020
accepted donations from Turkey
in exchange for favors.

2665
02:27:56,680 --> 02:27:59,740
Adam Curry: So this turkey thing
is it keeps popping up. It's

2666
02:27:59,740 --> 02:28:02,580
only really been the most recent
reports that they're talking

2667
02:28:02,580 --> 02:28:07,440
about it. I don't know what's
going on. What I What is not

2668
02:28:07,440 --> 02:28:11,820
mentioned, and I think your your
no agenda show should mention,

2669
02:28:12,300 --> 02:28:15,900
because it's unavoidable, is
that all of those implicated are

2670
02:28:15,900 --> 02:28:20,160
so called black people, as mo
would say, or people of color.

2671
02:28:21,840 --> 02:28:24,440
John C Dvorak: That's what he
wouldn't say, No. He

2672
02:28:24,440 --> 02:28:26,960
Adam Curry: would say so called
black people. Yeah, he

2673
02:28:26,960 --> 02:28:28,760
John C Dvorak: hates the term,
of course, color.

2674
02:28:28,820 --> 02:28:31,280
Adam Curry: But there's
something to be said about that.

2675
02:28:31,280 --> 02:28:36,620
In this case, this seems like a
lot of nepotism going on in in

2676
02:28:36,620 --> 02:28:38,720
New York, and I know from the
the New York,

2677
02:28:38,720 --> 02:28:40,720
John C Dvorak: wait a minute.
Let's stop for a second, let me,

2678
02:28:40,720 --> 02:28:46,540
let me. You step back, you say,
and try to comprehend the notion

2679
02:28:46,540 --> 02:28:50,320
that corruption exists in New
York City.

2680
02:28:50,380 --> 02:28:52,420
Adam Curry: I know what's going
on. I

2681
02:28:52,420 --> 02:28:54,100
John C Dvorak: don't know what
to make of it.

2682
02:28:56,260 --> 02:28:58,780
Adam Curry: Yeah, but with
Turkey, I mean, is that an

2683
02:28:58,780 --> 02:29:01,080
Erdogan thing is, I mean,
there's a

2684
02:29:01,080 --> 02:29:03,180
John C Dvorak: lot this is like.
This reminds me of the I don't

2685
02:29:03,180 --> 02:29:08,460
have a clip, but Kamala, they
were talking about how she had

2686
02:29:08,460 --> 02:29:14,640
collected $350 million in small
donations over the last month,

2687
02:29:14,820 --> 02:29:18,600
as opposed to Trump's 140
million old seems like a lot of

2688
02:29:18,600 --> 02:29:22,280
money, no matter who gets it and
how, but this small donations

2689
02:29:22,280 --> 02:29:26,900
thing, which they then said was
perfected by Obama, yeah, with

2690
02:29:26,900 --> 02:29:33,740
Chinese, this is, yes, this is a
scam of some sort, and it's a

2691
02:29:33,740 --> 02:29:37,280
major one, but it's for it's
like Saudi money or something

2692
02:29:37,280 --> 02:29:40,780
that's being laundered. Yeah,
and comes in, filters in as

2693
02:29:40,780 --> 02:29:44,500
small donations. And I can't say
it's Saudi money in particular.

2694
02:29:44,500 --> 02:29:47,620
Could be Chinese money, which I
would be more it's probably more

2695
02:29:47,620 --> 02:29:52,180
likely. Or it's just it's slick,
though it's a very slick

2696
02:29:52,720 --> 02:29:55,540
operation. There is no way that
you're getting that kind of

2697
02:29:55,540 --> 02:30:00,360
money for Kamala Harris out of
the blue, because they. For so

2698
02:30:00,360 --> 02:30:03,180
much I mean, just too much
money. It's too much money,

2699
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:09,000
Adam Curry: speaking of too much
money, Elon Musk, I'm staying on

2700
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:17,580
the beat. You know, the reason
why I am staying on the Elon

2701
02:30:17,580 --> 02:30:21,920
beat, with his freedom of
speech, is for this very simple

2702
02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:25,400
and again, you disagree with me,
and that's the way it should be.

2703
02:30:26,300 --> 02:30:29,000
I just want to be the guy
looking the other direction. You

2704
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:32,960
never know. Everyone's very
enamored with x. Loves it. It's

2705
02:30:32,960 --> 02:30:35,780
great. You you are. You are
totally

2706
02:30:35,780 --> 02:30:39,320
John C Dvorak: a lot of people
hate it. You're, you are, most

2707
02:30:39,320 --> 02:30:42,820
journalists in the Bay Area, for
example, who are all part of Bay

2708
02:30:42,820 --> 02:30:46,480
age does something or other.
Dot, mastodon. Dot, whatever.

2709
02:30:46,480 --> 02:30:50,320
Yeah, yeah, social, dot, yes,
dot, mastodon. Dot, mastodon.

2710
02:30:50,380 --> 02:30:55,660
Yeah, it's, do I go there and I
have an account on Mastodon

2711
02:30:55,660 --> 02:31:01,020
social, and I use it to follow
the journalists or in the Bay

2712
02:31:01,020 --> 02:31:04,980
Area and elsewhere, yes. And
they are the biggest haters of

2713
02:31:04,980 --> 02:31:08,160
the of the dead bird, as they
like to call it the dead bird

2714
02:31:08,160 --> 02:31:12,000
site. And it's just they go on
and on and on their psychopaths.

2715
02:31:12,060 --> 02:31:14,160
It's just like an embarrassment,
right? But

2716
02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:17,040
Adam Curry: they're not doing
the work. And I'm doing the work

2717
02:31:17,040 --> 02:31:20,540
here, and, Oh, and here's,
here's the reason I'm doing the

2718
02:31:20,540 --> 02:31:26,840
work if, if a guy had 40,000
satellites circling the Earth,

2719
02:31:26,840 --> 02:31:32,000
had a brain chip company was
responsible for ushering in

2720
02:31:32,060 --> 02:31:36,320
carbon credits and electric
vehicles, and his name was Bill

2721
02:31:36,320 --> 02:31:41,560
Gates, everybody would hate him.
But now it's Elon. Oh, it's

2722
02:31:41,560 --> 02:31:45,700
great. Then I, I'm not, I'm not
all in on the brain chip. I, you

2723
02:31:45,700 --> 02:31:48,700
know, I quite I love Starlink,
but I question,

2724
02:31:49,120 --> 02:31:51,280
John C Dvorak: you have a
Starlink account, if I'm not

2725
02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:51,760
mistaken,

2726
02:31:52,000 --> 02:31:54,940
Adam Curry: I do as well. I
said, I don't. I love Star

2727
02:31:55,060 --> 02:31:57,880
Starling. Well, I need it as a
backup for the show. But I

2728
02:31:57,880 --> 02:32:00,180
question, what can you do with
it? What is it? You know, you

2729
02:32:00,180 --> 02:32:02,100
John C Dvorak: have to, you
don't, you can use 5g

2730
02:32:03,300 --> 02:32:05,820
Adam Curry: Yeah, I have, I have
that as a backup as well. I have

2731
02:32:05,880 --> 02:32:09,960
two backups. Hello, this is an
important show. I don't want to

2732
02:32:09,960 --> 02:32:13,260
be taken off. I got a generate,
got a Jenny, and I got me a

2733
02:32:13,260 --> 02:32:17,220
Starlink and I got me a 5g so if
there's ever a problem, the show

2734
02:32:17,220 --> 02:32:18,060
will continue.

2735
02:32:19,020 --> 02:32:22,100
John C Dvorak: No, but I would
like us to use the 5g not the 5g

2736
02:32:22,280 --> 02:32:26,540
but they start. I don't want to
use it for the show, but I want

2737
02:32:26,540 --> 02:32:29,120
to test it for the show to see
that we see what the latency

2738
02:32:29,120 --> 02:32:32,660
seems like. Todd, if it and if
it's reasonable, I'll get get

2739
02:32:32,660 --> 02:32:34,580
that as a second backup for
myself. Well, I

2740
02:32:34,580 --> 02:32:36,800
Adam Curry: can tell you right
away you should Todd from

2741
02:32:36,800 --> 02:32:42,760
blueberry. He does the new media
show. He does video with with

2742
02:32:42,760 --> 02:32:47,800
Rob. Now they always argue about
his video podcasting, his

2743
02:32:47,800 --> 02:32:50,560
YouTube podcast. So they argue
about the same stuff over and

2744
02:32:50,560 --> 02:32:54,700
over again. But Todd runs
blueberry. He's Todd's a good

2745
02:32:54,700 --> 02:32:56,920
guy. I'd like. He's been around.
He's a knight. He's been around

2746
02:32:56,920 --> 02:33:00,400
for a long time. He's part of
the decentralized hosting

2747
02:33:00,520 --> 02:33:03,960
infrastructure that is
podcasting. He has been using

2748
02:33:03,960 --> 02:33:07,200
Starlink for his podcast to
communicate with video through

2749
02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:10,920
zoom, I think they use for the
past couple of weeks. And it's

2750
02:33:10,920 --> 02:33:13,200
the latency is almost
undetectable.

2751
02:33:14,340 --> 02:33:18,180
John C Dvorak: Well, the guys up
at the Canadians that we've both

2752
02:33:18,180 --> 02:33:19,380
done their podcast,

2753
02:33:20,760 --> 02:33:21,620
Adam Curry: yeah, the

2754
02:33:22,880 --> 02:33:25,400
John C Dvorak: what's the name
of their podcast? I've done it

2755
02:33:25,520 --> 02:33:29,420
twice. We are horrible now,
yeah, now we're, they're gonna

2756
02:33:29,420 --> 02:33:30,140
be mad at us.

2757
02:33:30,140 --> 02:33:33,200
Unknown: But Great America.
Great Merrick gray America,

2758
02:33:33,200 --> 02:33:34,280
right? America? Use.

2759
02:33:34,340 --> 02:33:36,920
John C Dvorak: One of the guys
uses. Thank you. Thank you, sir.

2760
02:33:36,920 --> 02:33:41,260
One of the guys uses the
Starlink. And it's like,

2761
02:33:41,860 --> 02:33:44,620
transparent, yeah, you couldn't
tell the difference. Now,

2762
02:33:44,620 --> 02:33:47,860
Adam Curry: I don't know how it
would work with with Starlink on

2763
02:33:47,860 --> 02:33:50,860
both ends, because that would
have to introduce, I would like

2764
02:33:50,860 --> 02:33:53,200
to test it. That has to
introduce some latency. But

2765
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:56,800
anyway, if the it was building,
it was Bill Gates, who I be, we

2766
02:33:56,800 --> 02:34:00,160
all be suspicious. But now it's
Elon Musk going like, oh, it's

2767
02:34:00,160 --> 02:34:07,740
Tony Stark, okay, so, so I
noticed that during during

2768
02:34:07,740 --> 02:34:11,760
yesterday's, was it yesterday?
Yes, yesterday's Independence

2769
02:34:11,760 --> 02:34:18,600
Day Rally for Brazil, there was
a call from Bolsonaro and from

2770
02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:23,180
other people on the ground to
protest the lack of free speech

2771
02:34:23,180 --> 02:34:27,080
in Brazil. And so, you know,
there's a lot of videos out

2772
02:34:27,080 --> 02:34:30,620
there. They may be from previous
demonstrations. I don't know

2773
02:34:30,620 --> 02:34:32,540
John C Dvorak: if I saw that
one. It looked like Mardi Gras

2774
02:34:32,540 --> 02:34:33,200
to me. Yeah, I

2775
02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:35,660
Adam Curry: don't know if it was
10s of 1000s or hundreds. I

2776
02:34:35,660 --> 02:34:41,800
don't know. What I did see is, I
saw a lot of free speech T

2777
02:34:41,800 --> 02:34:45,700
shirts with X preprinted on it,
which means someone has boots on

2778
02:34:45,700 --> 02:34:48,880
the ground doing that. And I
just have a couple of clips. I

2779
02:34:48,880 --> 02:34:52,900
couldn't get anything from the
mainstream US media, so I had to

2780
02:34:52,900 --> 02:34:55,480
go to an old favorite, W, I O N,

2781
02:34:55,540 --> 02:34:59,560
Unknown: thank you for defending
our freedom. Red banners and

2782
02:34:59,560 --> 02:35:03,300
praise. Of x as hundreds of
supporters of former Brazilian

2783
02:35:03,300 --> 02:35:07,260
President Jair Bolsonaro hit
streets. They demanded the

2784
02:35:07,260 --> 02:35:11,640
dismissal of justice Alexandra
de Morais, who last week ordered

2785
02:35:11,700 --> 02:35:15,660
XP band in Brazil after the
platform failed to comply with

2786
02:35:15,660 --> 02:35:19,680
orders to block some accounts
accused of spreading fake news.

2787
02:35:19,920 --> 02:35:23,600
This after Bolsonaro urged
Brazilians to avoid official

2788
02:35:23,600 --> 02:35:27,980
Independence Day parades and
instead join him in Sao Paulo.

2789
02:35:28,700 --> 02:35:29,120
All right,

2790
02:35:29,120 --> 02:35:31,760
Adam Curry: so that doesn't
really tell us anything. But

2791
02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:35,720
what was interesting is that
Michael schellenberger went to

2792
02:35:35,720 --> 02:35:41,500
Brazil to specifically to make
sure he protested the freedom of

2793
02:35:41,500 --> 02:35:45,220
speech in Brazil. Now,
Shellenberger, what? Oh, yeah.

2794
02:35:45,280 --> 02:35:46,360
Unknown: Oh please. Well,

2795
02:35:46,360 --> 02:35:48,280
Adam Curry: you remember
schellenberger was part of the

2796
02:35:48,280 --> 02:35:49,960
Westminster declaration.

2797
02:35:51,640 --> 02:35:52,660
Unknown: You remember this?

2798
02:35:53,440 --> 02:35:54,100
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah. That

2799
02:35:54,100 --> 02:35:58,240
Adam Curry: was that whole long
list of Taibbi Shellenberger,

2800
02:35:58,240 --> 02:36:02,040
Jonathan Haidt, Steven Pinker,
usual suspects, all the usual

2801
02:36:02,040 --> 02:36:05,760
suspects. And we found this to
be very sketchy by itself. In

2802
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:08,880
fact, as I'm reading through it,
at least as I'm reading through

2803
02:36:08,880 --> 02:36:12,420
it again, the Westminster
declaration says the legislature

2804
02:36:12,420 --> 02:36:15,240
in Germany and the Supreme Court
in Brazil are criminalizing

2805
02:36:15,240 --> 02:36:18,300
political speech. So I'm still
thinking that there's something

2806
02:36:18,300 --> 02:36:22,640
going on with Brazil that that a
group of people wants to change.

2807
02:36:23,000 --> 02:36:27,440
And schellenberger actually gave
me some information, and then

2808
02:36:27,440 --> 02:36:31,100
one of our outstanding producers
came back with something that

2809
02:36:31,100 --> 02:36:34,280
fits in with it. So there's a
huge population

2810
02:36:34,280 --> 02:36:36,740
Unknown: in Brazil. I imagine
there's a lot of strong

2811
02:36:36,740 --> 02:36:38,840
feelings. Tell me about the
protest tomorrow. What to

2812
02:36:38,840 --> 02:36:39,560
expect? Well, so

2813
02:36:39,560 --> 02:36:42,340
it's independent This is
Brazil's independence day.

2814
02:36:42,340 --> 02:36:44,980
Tomorrow, there's going to be a
huge protest demanding the

2815
02:36:44,980 --> 02:36:48,700
impeachment of this Supreme
Court Justice named Ali Sanchez

2816
02:36:48,760 --> 02:36:52,600
Morice, demanding that the
president of the Brazilian

2817
02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:56,380
Senate, Rodrigo Pacheco, start
impeachment proceedings. The

2818
02:36:56,380 --> 02:37:00,360
number of senators supporting
impeachment has been growing by

2819
02:37:00,360 --> 02:37:03,240
the day, and you're starting to
now see people, you know,

2820
02:37:03,240 --> 02:37:06,060
newspapers that have been
advocating for more censorship

2821
02:37:06,060 --> 02:37:09,660
online say, Hey, this is too
much. This is really outrageous.

2822
02:37:09,660 --> 02:37:11,700
This is the kind of censorship
that they saw during the

2823
02:37:11,700 --> 02:37:15,600
dictatorship in Brazil. So we're
expecting to see hundreds of

2824
02:37:15,600 --> 02:37:18,480
1000s of people on the streets
tomorrow demanding free speech,

2825
02:37:18,480 --> 02:37:20,660
which is guaranteed in the
Brazilian Constitution.

2826
02:37:20,900 --> 02:37:24,260
Adam Curry: Ah, it's guaranteed
in the Brazilian Constitution.

2827
02:37:24,260 --> 02:37:27,860
Yes. And one of our producers,
Jose, checked in and said, Yes,

2828
02:37:27,860 --> 02:37:31,880
Brazil, Article Five, part four,
the expression of thought is

2829
02:37:31,880 --> 02:37:38,480
free, but there's a little extra
part there, and anonymity is

2830
02:37:38,480 --> 02:37:43,720
forbidden. Wouldn't that be
interesting if Elon Musk could

2831
02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:47,080
have everybody say whatever they
wanted on X but you couldn't do

2832
02:37:47,080 --> 02:37:50,320
it anonymously. This is
something I've been tracking

2833
02:37:50,320 --> 02:37:54,220
with him for a long time. How
many people have played paid for

2834
02:37:54,220 --> 02:37:57,820
the check mark? Once you pay,
you're no longer anonymous. I

2835
02:37:57,820 --> 02:38:00,960
think that this could come come
here as well. I've been saying

2836
02:38:00,960 --> 02:38:01,920
this for a long time.

2837
02:38:02,340 --> 02:38:05,220
John C Dvorak: A lot of people
have been advocating for it.

2838
02:38:05,220 --> 02:38:05,760
Yeah, of

2839
02:38:05,760 --> 02:38:10,320
Adam Curry: course they are.
They want it, but and this just

2840
02:38:10,320 --> 02:38:11,460
the final thoughts, just so you

2841
02:38:11,460 --> 02:38:13,980
John C Dvorak: can identify your
enemy. Well,

2842
02:38:13,980 --> 02:38:16,560
Unknown: yes, the

2843
02:38:17,880 --> 02:38:19,620
Adam Curry: what came to mind
is, what?

2844
02:38:21,120 --> 02:38:23,480
Unknown: What group

2845
02:38:26,300 --> 02:38:29,960
Adam Curry: is probably the
greatest risk to the US dollar?

2846
02:38:33,140 --> 02:38:34,100
Unknown: What group

2847
02:38:35,480 --> 02:38:36,980
John C Dvorak: is the greatest
Well, the

2848
02:38:37,100 --> 02:38:39,860
Adam Curry: greatest threat,
greatest threat. What What group

2849
02:38:39,920 --> 02:38:42,460
poses the greatest threat to the
US dollar.

2850
02:38:45,520 --> 02:38:47,500
John C Dvorak: Well, I would
say, I would say this, the

2851
02:38:47,500 --> 02:38:48,640
bricks for one

2852
02:38:50,620 --> 02:38:56,140
Adam Curry: exactly the bricks,
Brazil, India, Russia, China, we

2853
02:38:56,140 --> 02:38:59,740
already have Africa. Well, yes.
And then Saudi Arabia is in

2854
02:38:59,740 --> 02:39:01,680
there, and Egypt is in there,
yeah, but

2855
02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:04,140
John C Dvorak: the part of the
bricks nomenclature, the S

2856
02:39:04,140 --> 02:39:06,300
stands for South Africa, yes,

2857
02:39:06,480 --> 02:39:09,840
Adam Curry: but Brazil is right
at the front. I think, I think

2858
02:39:09,840 --> 02:39:14,400
there's groups, maybe within our
US, government and and typical

2859
02:39:14,400 --> 02:39:18,060
to use Elon, because they use
them for everything else who

2860
02:39:18,060 --> 02:39:20,240
want to bring the bricks to
heel.

2861
02:39:22,580 --> 02:39:25,040
John C Dvorak: Well, that's, I
think we've come to that

2862
02:39:25,040 --> 02:39:28,880
conclusion sometime back, right?
But you can use this. These guys

2863
02:39:28,880 --> 02:39:31,160
out there doing what they're
trying to do. It's like

2864
02:39:31,160 --> 02:39:33,200
ridiculous. Well, put up with
this. You

2865
02:39:33,200 --> 02:39:35,600
Adam Curry: can use this as a
wedge issue. Bring in the

2866
02:39:35,600 --> 02:39:37,460
republican from Florida.

2867
02:39:37,580 --> 02:39:41,080
Unknown: Let's get right to
Congresswoman Maria Salazar, the

2868
02:39:41,080 --> 02:39:44,440
congresswoman serves on House
Foreign Affairs. House Foreign

2869
02:39:44,440 --> 02:39:48,640
Affairs. Congressman, Salazar
fled communism in Cuba with her

2870
02:39:48,640 --> 02:39:51,880
family. It's great to have you
on. Wonderful to see you again.

2871
02:39:51,880 --> 02:39:55,720
Congresswoman, your reaction to
Brazil banning Twitter? Oh,

2872
02:39:55,780 --> 02:40:01,620
very worrisome. And you know,
where else up? Twitter has been

2873
02:40:01,620 --> 02:40:06,120
banned Iran and North Korea and
China and Russia and Venezuela

2874
02:40:06,120 --> 02:40:10,440
and now in Brazil, the most
important economy in the Western

2875
02:40:10,440 --> 02:40:14,880
Hemisphere after the United
States. How embarrassing and how

2876
02:40:14,880 --> 02:40:18,780
worrisome. And why? Because Elon
Musk is a Freedom Force that

2877
02:40:18,780 --> 02:40:23,960
they want to become socialist
more and more. You have to

2878
02:40:23,960 --> 02:40:28,340
remember that the president of
Brazil, Lula, was in jail for

2879
02:40:28,340 --> 02:40:32,180
two years. He was convicted to
12 years for corruption and

2880
02:40:32,180 --> 02:40:33,380
money laundering.

2881
02:40:33,380 --> 02:40:36,680
Adam Curry: Freedom Force, yep,
I have no conclusion to this,

2882
02:40:36,680 --> 02:40:39,560
but I'm just saying there's
forces, and is not a Freedom

2883
02:40:39,560 --> 02:40:46,000
Force is at work to do something
with Brazil, just keeping my eye

2884
02:40:46,000 --> 02:40:46,300
on it.

2885
02:40:47,080 --> 02:40:50,200
John C Dvorak: Well, I I'm not
going to dissuade you from

2886
02:40:50,260 --> 02:40:56,500
continuing this thread. Yes, but
I Yes. BRICS is an issue that

2887
02:40:56,500 --> 02:41:00,100
has to be dealt with because we
cannot afford to lose our

2888
02:41:00,520 --> 02:41:04,020
reserve currency status.
Otherwise we would, the country

2889
02:41:04,020 --> 02:41:05,760
would be bankrupt. We'd be done,

2890
02:41:05,820 --> 02:41:09,180
Adam Curry: yeah? So, you know,
it's one thing to have the NFL

2891
02:41:09,180 --> 02:41:12,780
there. It's another thing to to
have them messing with our

2892
02:41:12,780 --> 02:41:16,800
currency. And this, this, this
guy's no good, Lula's no good.

2893
02:41:17,400 --> 02:41:17,640
You know,

2894
02:41:17,640 --> 02:41:20,480
John C Dvorak: Lula is no good,
yeah? So, you know, now he's a

2895
02:41:20,480 --> 02:41:23,660
socialist. The Brazilians bring
these guys back and forth. It's

2896
02:41:23,660 --> 02:41:27,380
ridiculous. Another Yeah. I
mean, every country, modern

2897
02:41:27,380 --> 02:41:31,340
country, has been doing this. We
saw it. We see it in France with

2898
02:41:31,340 --> 02:41:34,040
the left wanting to take over
the place and turn it to an

2899
02:41:34,040 --> 02:41:37,940
international operation. And
Spain is always voting

2900
02:41:37,940 --> 02:41:42,940
communists in left and right.
And they get good. Oh, they have

2901
02:41:42,940 --> 02:41:49,300
issues, yeah. And it just is a,
this is a somebody, I forget it

2902
02:41:49,300 --> 02:41:51,700
was Kennedy or somebody says,
you know, why don't we just let

2903
02:41:51,700 --> 02:41:54,400
the communists have their own
party here in this country so we

2904
02:41:54,400 --> 02:41:59,200
can at least identify, did
Kennedy say that? RFK, Kennedy

2905
02:41:59,200 --> 02:42:03,120
was one, yeah. RFK, Jr, that's
funny. It would. It may have not

2906
02:42:03,120 --> 02:42:06,780
been him, but my voice is going
because I'm talking about him.

2907
02:42:06,840 --> 02:42:12,420
Yeah, it was somebody who, who's
important person, that had this

2908
02:42:12,420 --> 02:42:15,540
logical conclusion. And I kind
of agree with that should have a

2909
02:42:16,440 --> 02:42:19,680
communist. You have a communist
on the ticket, you know, yeah,

2910
02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:22,700
communist. And if you vote for
him, you're an idiot, but at

2911
02:42:22,700 --> 02:42:24,980
least you can identify that
they're there, and you can see

2912
02:42:24,980 --> 02:42:27,860
who voted for him. Not that it
used to be spying on the public.

2913
02:42:27,920 --> 02:42:33,500
But, oh no, I have a funny this
is my voice is great. I haven't

2914
02:42:33,560 --> 02:42:36,560
I do have to play this Alex
Jones clip just as kind of an

2915
02:42:36,560 --> 02:42:37,640
inside goodness.

2916
02:42:37,700 --> 02:42:41,860
Adam Curry: Okay, so Alex,
sorry, yeah, yeah, don't

2917
02:42:41,860 --> 02:42:45,880
John C Dvorak: play yet. Alex
Jones was talking about this

2918
02:42:45,880 --> 02:42:50,800
latest thing going on, friend of
the show. He is a friend of the

2919
02:42:50,800 --> 02:42:54,100
show. I like Alex Jones material
generally, but he, you know, he

2920
02:42:54,100 --> 02:42:57,340
does, and he is very good about
the last election and calling

2921
02:42:57,340 --> 02:43:00,040
people out who thought there was
micro dots on the ballots.

2922
02:43:00,820 --> 02:43:04,680
Unknown: Uh. Thanks,

2923
02:43:04,740 --> 02:43:06,720
Adam Curry: pal. Remember,

2924
02:43:07,320 --> 02:43:09,480
John C Dvorak: remember, it was
buchanic that was on his show

2925
02:43:09,480 --> 02:43:12,960
that was making this session.
That's where it all started,

2926
02:43:12,960 --> 02:43:17,400
literally laughing at him on the
show. So, uh, Alex has been

2927
02:43:17,400 --> 02:43:21,500
picked up on Eric Weinstein's
latest thing, and he's got some

2928
02:43:21,500 --> 02:43:25,400
background information about the
self replicating nanobots that

2929
02:43:25,400 --> 02:43:28,460
are in the shot, and it's
killing your immune system. It

2930
02:43:28,460 --> 02:43:31,940
went on, I have no clips of
that, yeah, because it was like,

2931
02:43:31,940 --> 02:43:35,480
this, such a sketchy assertion.
Well, it came just,

2932
02:43:35,540 --> 02:43:38,780
Adam Curry: it came from a paper
which was written by someone who

2933
02:43:38,780 --> 02:43:43,300
was not schooled in this
particular area. I think it's

2934
02:43:43,300 --> 02:43:44,980
been debunked by now.

2935
02:43:45,940 --> 02:43:48,940
John C Dvorak: Well, it's a good
topic of conversation for Alex

2936
02:43:48,940 --> 02:43:52,300
and his show. But meanwhile, he
does a segment where he takes

2937
02:43:52,300 --> 02:43:55,780
letters to the editor go and he
just reads them, and he then he

2938
02:43:55,780 --> 02:44:00,220
follows up. And so somebody
wrote into him about his scream

2939
02:44:00,220 --> 02:44:02,820
and how it come. He's not using
it much anymore, where he

2940
02:44:02,820 --> 02:44:08,880
screams. And so he does scream
for the guy, but there was a lot

2941
02:44:08,880 --> 02:44:12,840
of background information, which
I think we can all anticipate

2942
02:44:12,900 --> 02:44:15,780
before he does his scream. And
this is nothing more than Alex

2943
02:44:15,780 --> 02:44:20,240
explaining his lousy his crazy
sounding voice. And then he to

2944
02:44:20,240 --> 02:44:23,840
make it matters worse, he does
his scream into the microphone

2945
02:44:23,960 --> 02:44:26,360
Unknown: first. I never took
acting lessons or voice lessons.

2946
02:44:26,360 --> 02:44:29,780
I've screamed and yelled a lot,
even without a bullhorn. And so

2947
02:44:29,780 --> 02:44:34,340
I've got stuff on my larynx, uh,
polyps. I've been to an ear,

2948
02:44:34,340 --> 02:44:36,920
nose and eye doctor a couple
times, and they said, well,

2949
02:44:36,920 --> 02:44:37,880
it'll take six weeks.

2950
02:44:39,680 --> 02:44:42,700
Adam Curry: Is it Ear, Nose and
Throat? Doctor, yeah,

2951
02:44:42,940 --> 02:44:44,560
John C Dvorak: yes, it is.

2952
02:44:46,180 --> 02:44:47,260
Adam Curry: Eye doctor, oh,

2953
02:44:48,160 --> 02:44:50,800
Unknown: I've been to an ear,
nose and eye doctor a couple

2954
02:44:50,800 --> 02:44:53,200
times, and they said, well,
it'll take six weeks. You can't

2955
02:44:53,200 --> 02:44:56,140
really talk. You can take those
polyps off, and you won't sound

2956
02:44:56,140 --> 02:44:58,480
like you're an 80 year old man.
Smoke cigarettes, drinks

2957
02:44:58,480 --> 02:45:00,720
whiskey, but I just haven't
done. And it's kind of

2958
02:45:00,720 --> 02:45:02,760
signature, so I'm leaving it
there. I may have to do it at

2959
02:45:02,760 --> 02:45:05,580
some point if I keep screaming,
because it's getting worse. But

2960
02:45:05,580 --> 02:45:08,280
I used to scream so loud out of
demonstrations and stuff that

2961
02:45:08,280 --> 02:45:12,660
I'd cough up blood, no, a few
times. So I like to do it. I

2962
02:45:12,660 --> 02:45:14,820
usually do it when I actually
feel like doing it, but I'm

2963
02:45:14,820 --> 02:45:17,220
excited about it. You know, the
country, the world waking up. So

2964
02:45:17,220 --> 02:45:23,480
let me fire it up and do it.
That's a little one for you.

2965
02:45:26,000 --> 02:45:27,680
Adam Curry: And you got great
pleasure from this.

2966
02:45:28,280 --> 02:45:31,700
John C Dvorak: I did. It's like
he made said scream, and I

2967
02:45:31,700 --> 02:45:35,900
realized it's just, it's just a,
it's, it's a, it's a shtick with

2968
02:45:35,900 --> 02:45:39,020
him. But he is blowing out his
vulgar. Of course, there's no

2969
02:45:39,020 --> 02:45:41,920
doubt about and then he doesn't
scream again. He should stop.

2970
02:45:42,400 --> 02:45:47,020
Adam Curry: I have two quick
clips that'll be it for me for

2971
02:45:47,020 --> 02:45:49,720
our broadcast day. But of
course, we have a great end of

2972
02:45:49,720 --> 02:45:52,720
show mixes, and we have the tip
of the day coming up. So you

2973
02:45:52,720 --> 02:45:58,180
want to wait for that. This is
the M 5m the legacy media

2974
02:45:58,180 --> 02:46:01,320
catching up to your no agenda
show, which has been on this

2975
02:46:01,320 --> 02:46:04,740
beat for, I think, at least six
months. Rob

2976
02:46:04,740 --> 02:46:07,140
Unknown: a West Suburban woman
is talking to the i team about

2977
02:46:07,140 --> 02:46:11,340
how she sent almost $1 million
to a scammer. And she's not

2978
02:46:11,340 --> 02:46:15,180
alone. The FBI estimates the
scam known as pig butchering,

2979
02:46:15,360 --> 02:46:19,380
cost Americans nearly $4 billion
last year alone. Think

2980
02:46:19,380 --> 02:46:21,260
Adam Curry: of all the money
people could have saved if they

2981
02:46:21,260 --> 02:46:24,920
were listening to the no agenda
show. We have warned people for

2982
02:46:24,920 --> 02:46:28,700
this. We have explained how it
works. Even the name pig

2983
02:46:28,700 --> 02:46:33,260
butchering, and yet, $4 billion
is gone. It's

2984
02:46:33,740 --> 02:46:36,440
John C Dvorak: unbelievable,
yeah. And the thing is, the FBI.

2985
02:46:36,440 --> 02:46:39,980
I mean, where are where is it?
Where is Elizabeth Warren?

2986
02:46:39,980 --> 02:46:40,220
Where's

2987
02:46:40,220 --> 02:46:41,080
Adam Curry: Warren? Where's

2988
02:46:41,080 --> 02:46:44,020
John C Dvorak: Warren? Elizabeth
Warren and Rachel complain about

2989
02:46:44,020 --> 02:46:48,340
Rachel, and I still get calls. I
get them once. I'm getting now,

2990
02:46:48,400 --> 02:46:51,820
mostly almost one after another
is the oh, you've been paying

2991
02:46:51,820 --> 02:46:56,320
too much for your utility bill.
You, you've overpaid you. We

2992
02:46:56,320 --> 02:46:59,620
want to give you a bunch of
money and and discount your

2993
02:46:59,620 --> 02:47:04,500
utility bill by 35% press one to
do for this offer. And of

2994
02:47:04,500 --> 02:47:08,700
course, I take it literally and
press one and hang up, yeah,

2995
02:47:08,940 --> 02:47:11,460
because they're only asking me
to press one, they're not asking

2996
02:47:11,460 --> 02:47:14,820
me to hang on the line. I have
hung on the line a couple times

2997
02:47:14,820 --> 02:47:18,540
some some guy with a very thick
bomb bay accent trying to

2998
02:47:18,540 --> 02:47:22,100
convince me that the local
utility bill. I did. I just had

2999
02:47:22,100 --> 02:47:23,360
to give him my bank account

3000
02:47:24,800 --> 02:47:27,680
Adam Curry: cleared right up.
But I got, actually, I got a

3001
02:47:27,680 --> 02:47:32,540
call yesterday while here from a
512, area code, which is Texas,

3002
02:47:32,540 --> 02:47:36,680
Austin and and the minute I
heard it, I was like, oh,

3003
02:47:36,680 --> 02:47:41,080
because, yes, this is Sheriff's
Office. Like, Oh, okay. And I

3004
02:47:41,080 --> 02:47:43,600
hung up, and it was, you
remember that scam that they

3005
02:47:43,780 --> 02:47:47,200
pulled me into, tried to pull me
into the sheriff's office, and

3006
02:47:47,200 --> 02:47:51,760
then I told you about this? Do
you remember? Yeah, well, I

3007
02:47:51,760 --> 02:47:52,720
John C Dvorak: don't remember.
It was,

3008
02:47:52,780 --> 02:47:55,240
Adam Curry: it was very
convincing. They had police

3009
02:47:55,240 --> 02:47:58,660
radio gone in the background.
Were transferring you, and then,

3010
02:47:58,780 --> 02:48:01,320
well, there's a warrant out for
your arrest because you didn't

3011
02:48:01,320 --> 02:48:09,060
show up as a was the as a the
stuff you've as a witness, a

3012
02:48:09,060 --> 02:48:13,080
specialist witness. What do you
call it? You've been the expert

3013
02:48:13,080 --> 02:48:16,500
witness, expert witness. Thank
you, expert witness. And because

3014
02:48:16,500 --> 02:48:20,840
you had signed that you would
appear now you have to come down

3015
02:48:20,840 --> 02:48:24,140
to the station, and you have to
pay a fine. It's three and a

3016
02:48:24,140 --> 02:48:28,100
half $1,000 and it was, it was
sophisticated, wow, they

3017
02:48:28,100 --> 02:48:30,560
John C Dvorak: had me going
five. I have not heard this one.

3018
02:48:30,620 --> 02:48:32,840
Adam Curry: Yeah, they had me
going for a bit. And I'm like,

3019
02:48:32,840 --> 02:48:35,660
you know, I think I'm gonna call
my lawyer. No, you can't hang

3020
02:48:35,660 --> 02:48:39,980
up. You have, we have a had
another term like, stay. Oh,

3021
02:48:40,040 --> 02:48:40,480
there's, there's

3022
02:48:40,480 --> 02:48:41,500
John C Dvorak: your giveaway.
Well,

3023
02:48:41,620 --> 02:48:44,680
Adam Curry: they wanted me to go
to a kiosk and deposit the

3024
02:48:44,680 --> 02:48:46,840
money, like, Okay, gotcha. Oh

3025
02:48:46,840 --> 02:48:50,020
John C Dvorak: yeah, that's,
that's that makes sense, gifts

3026
02:48:50,020 --> 02:48:52,000
or get a gift card for what? But

3027
02:48:52,000 --> 02:48:54,760
Adam Curry: what I'm gonna do
is, when I, when we get home,

3028
02:48:54,820 --> 02:48:58,540
uh, tomorrow, I'm going to call
them back and then pretend that

3029
02:48:58,540 --> 02:49:02,100
I fell for it. I'm gonna record
it, see if I can get them to go

3030
02:49:02,100 --> 02:49:03,600
all the way through. They will
not pick

3031
02:49:03,600 --> 02:49:04,200
John C Dvorak: up the phone.

3032
02:49:04,980 --> 02:49:07,440
Adam Curry: The first time they
actually left a message at

3033
02:49:07,440 --> 02:49:11,640
7:59am and I didn't take it
because walking the dog, and I

3034
02:49:11,640 --> 02:49:16,140
called him back and they picked
up. So I might get lucky. Mike,

3035
02:49:16,200 --> 02:49:16,680
you might

3036
02:49:16,680 --> 02:49:19,380
John C Dvorak: get lucky. But
I've had very little luck with

3037
02:49:19,380 --> 02:49:23,000
this. Yeah, the most recent one.
I did have one of these the

3038
02:49:23,000 --> 02:49:27,500
second time. This is the second
time it happened. I pick up the

3039
02:49:27,500 --> 02:49:30,620
phone and the voice on the other
end goes, grandpa.

3040
02:49:35,420 --> 02:49:37,400
Adam Curry: Yeah, grandpa, yeah.

3041
02:49:38,540 --> 02:49:41,200
John C Dvorak: And I didn't,
well, I've had this call before,

3042
02:49:41,260 --> 02:49:44,020
and this guy, I told, I just
told this guy off. I said, What?

3043
02:49:44,440 --> 02:49:47,620
What du believe? Anything you
have to say. And hung up on him.

3044
02:49:47,620 --> 02:49:50,260
I didn't have time for the call
because I was doing clips. Oh,

3045
02:49:50,260 --> 02:49:56,140
man, I've had the call before. I
don't have the, yes, I have to

3046
02:49:56,140 --> 02:49:59,740
record these space. If I ever
get one of these again, I'll

3047
02:49:59,740 --> 02:50:03,000
try. Had to record it. But the I
did go through it with what the

3048
02:50:03,000 --> 02:50:08,040
first guy and the guest is,
grandpa. And I said, Yeah, who

3049
02:50:08,040 --> 02:50:11,520
is this? Theodore. Theodore? He
never, no, they never get they

3050
02:50:11,520 --> 02:50:13,980
don't have a name. They don't
have that tiny it could be

3051
02:50:13,980 --> 02:50:17,520
Theodore. Yeah. Well, Theodore
is like, nine or eight, yeah.

3052
02:50:17,580 --> 02:50:22,220
And you're like, you're like,
50, oh, okay, and so it does.

3053
02:50:22,220 --> 02:50:24,800
The voices are no good. They
don't. They don't using kids

3054
02:50:24,800 --> 02:50:28,220
voices. Well, they do. They're
not using, I mean, voice

3055
02:50:28,220 --> 02:50:31,340
augmentation. Well, it just
doesn't work. I don't see anyone

3056
02:50:31,340 --> 02:50:33,140
can fall for this crowd. You
know, these days,

3057
02:50:33,620 --> 02:50:37,820
Adam Curry: all the Tina and the
girls they have, they have

3058
02:50:37,880 --> 02:50:42,340
special code words in case
someone calls with a Hey, Mom,

3059
02:50:42,340 --> 02:50:46,000
I'm in trouble. And they use AI
to simulate the voice, which has

3060
02:50:46,000 --> 02:50:49,480
happened, or at least has been
warnings about it, supposedly,

3061
02:50:49,720 --> 02:50:52,120
supposedly, you know, there's
there's one. This is my, my last

3062
02:50:52,120 --> 02:50:54,520
clip. There's one other trend,
which has been going on for a

3063
02:50:54,520 --> 02:50:58,300
while, but I never really paid
much attention to it, mainly

3064
02:50:58,300 --> 02:51:01,380
because I don't have an iPhone.
I haven't had an iPhone since

3065
02:51:01,380 --> 02:51:04,620
Apple screwed up USB on the Max
and I got rid of all my Apple

3066
02:51:04,620 --> 02:51:07,860
products. You've never had an
iPhone, as far as I know. You

3067
02:51:07,860 --> 02:51:11,100
don't have a phone. You have a
you have some kind of China

3068
02:51:11,160 --> 02:51:14,280
phone, yeah, in the desk drawer
an Android. It's an Android. You

3069
02:51:14,280 --> 02:51:17,520
don't have an iPhone. Yeah, of
course it is. So one of the

3070
02:51:17,760 --> 02:51:18,780
features, by

3071
02:51:18,780 --> 02:51:22,100
John C Dvorak: the way, stop,
I'm not dead set against these

3072
02:51:22,100 --> 02:51:26,120
phone. And I will say the
foldable Samsung phone looks

3073
02:51:26,120 --> 02:51:29,840
very appealing that, you know,
it's pretty and small, it's

3074
02:51:30,260 --> 02:51:32,660
dynamite. Yeah, but continue,
yeah. But

3075
02:51:32,780 --> 02:51:35,600
Adam Curry: sorry, you know,
it's $1,800 for that phone.

3076
02:51:35,660 --> 02:51:41,440
Yeah, no, forget. It Not gonna
happen. And we had the the

3077
02:51:41,440 --> 02:51:45,220
Zoomer at at the house for 12
weeks. She's back now. She's

3078
02:51:45,220 --> 02:51:47,500
back in New York. She's healed.
Everything went well. Thank you

3079
02:51:47,500 --> 02:51:53,260
for asking. And the I noticed
there is, there's a trend that's

3080
02:51:53,260 --> 02:51:57,520
been going on for a long time. I
just never really noticed it, of

3081
02:51:57,520 --> 02:52:02,220
location sharing. And I found a
clip. Actually, someone sent me

3082
02:52:02,220 --> 02:52:06,420
this clip from Tiktok. It's
obviously a setup. So it's not

3083
02:52:06,420 --> 02:52:13,140
like, Oh, this is a real Zoomer.
You know, this is pretend, but

3084
02:52:13,140 --> 02:52:17,340
it does show you just a I find
it to be a very disturbing,

3085
02:52:17,520 --> 02:52:20,040
lonely trend. Sorry, I'm late.
There's

3086
02:52:20,040 --> 02:52:22,340
Unknown: literally so much
traffic? Oh, that's interesting,

3087
02:52:22,340 --> 02:52:24,800
because I was tracking your
location and you only left your

3088
02:52:24,800 --> 02:52:27,800
house 10 minutes ago. Wait, you
have my location? Yeah, remember

3089
02:52:27,800 --> 02:52:30,020
you shared it with me six months
ago when we were at that

3090
02:52:30,020 --> 02:52:33,140
concert. No, oh, my god, do you
know if Kelly's back with her

3091
02:52:33,140 --> 02:52:35,300
ex? Because, like, I was
tracking her on Find My Friends

3092
02:52:35,300 --> 02:52:37,460
last night, and she was in
Brentwood, which is, like, where

3093
02:52:37,460 --> 02:52:39,980
her ex lives. And also, I have
her ex's location too, and they

3094
02:52:39,980 --> 02:52:42,700
were together. What are you
watching? I'm watching Find My

3095
02:52:42,700 --> 02:52:46,120
Friends. People are being crazy
today. They're like, bobbing all

3096
02:52:46,120 --> 02:52:48,820
around the city. Sabrina flaked
on dinner last week. She said

3097
02:52:48,820 --> 02:52:51,040
she didn't feel well. And I was
like, well, that's odd, because

3098
02:52:51,040 --> 02:52:53,980
your location says you're at a
different house. Find My Friends

3099
02:52:53,980 --> 02:52:57,040
more like, find the people who
betrayed me. Do you just watch

3100
02:52:57,040 --> 02:52:59,860
that all day? I just like, love.
Find My Friends, because it

3101
02:52:59,860 --> 02:53:02,080
makes me feel close. Like, to my
friends. You know what I mean?

3102
02:53:02,080 --> 02:53:04,320
Like, I find my friends. In
their locations where they

3103
02:53:04,320 --> 02:53:07,200
currently are. Kelly, where are
you going? Girl, you're being

3104
02:53:07,200 --> 02:53:10,920
insane today. It's kind of like
an invasion of privacy, don't

3105
02:53:10,920 --> 02:53:14,700
you think? No girl, don't go in
there. No one I saw on my boss's

3106
02:53:14,700 --> 02:53:17,040
location that he was at a bar
last night, which is like, okay,

3107
02:53:17,040 --> 02:53:20,220
weeknight drinking. Wait, you
have your boss's location. Yeah,

3108
02:53:20,220 --> 02:53:23,360
yeah. I turned it on when I was
on his phone. Does he know that?

3109
02:53:23,360 --> 02:53:25,400
He doesn't. He might not, not
know that

3110
02:53:26,000 --> 02:53:30,620
Adam Curry: this is disturbing,
this Find My Friends, track

3111
02:53:30,620 --> 02:53:31,880
their location, and it's

3112
02:53:31,880 --> 02:53:36,680
John C Dvorak: really I thought
this was a an idea that I

3113
02:53:36,920 --> 02:53:39,980
cropped up. I remember writing
about it, and I think it was in

3114
02:53:39,980 --> 02:53:43,420
PC Magazine. May have been
before that, when I was an info

3115
02:53:43,420 --> 02:53:48,160
world, even where this idea had
cropped up in Europe, it was

3116
02:53:48,160 --> 02:53:50,920
called something else, but you
could track your friends, and it

3117
02:53:50,920 --> 02:53:53,800
was so, oh, yeah, this is great,
because you can meet at the bar

3118
02:53:53,800 --> 02:53:57,100
and he's no look at they're at
the same area, you know, here in

3119
02:53:57,100 --> 02:54:01,560
Amsterdam, this is a European
product originally, and I always

3120
02:54:01,560 --> 02:54:04,560
thought it was just a stalkers
delight, and I never thought it

3121
02:54:04,560 --> 02:54:07,920
would ever become legal, because
I think it should be illegal.

3122
02:54:08,400 --> 02:54:11,400
But, yeah, it doesn't. This does
not surprise me.

3123
02:54:11,640 --> 02:54:14,160
Adam Curry: Yeah, I just it's
like, what? What is that about?

3124
02:54:14,160 --> 02:54:18,120
What? What? What is happening to
people? They find it's so

3125
02:54:18,120 --> 02:54:22,940
necessary to share location with
each other, so you can see where

3126
02:54:22,940 --> 02:54:25,640
your Is that like the most
intimate type of friendship we

3127
02:54:25,640 --> 02:54:28,880
have these days, I'm really good
friends with her. I'm sharing my

3128
02:54:28,880 --> 02:54:30,320
location. Well,

3129
02:54:30,320 --> 02:54:32,600
John C Dvorak: if anybody
follows my location, they find

3130
02:54:32,600 --> 02:54:37,760
that I live in a drawer in my in
my kitchen area. I'm

3131
02:54:38,480 --> 02:54:41,620
Unknown: gonna show my salad by
donating to know agenda, Imagine

3132
02:54:41,620 --> 02:54:43,660
all the people who could do that

3133
02:54:48,880 --> 02:54:52,780
Adam Curry: drawer. That's
right, everybody. We want to

3134
02:54:52,780 --> 02:54:55,180
thank all of our producers. We
thanked our executive and

3135
02:54:55,180 --> 02:54:58,060
Associate Executive producers at
halfway through the show, and

3136
02:54:58,240 --> 02:55:01,140
this is where we thank everyone
who came in. $50 and above. We

3137
02:55:01,140 --> 02:55:04,140
can use your support for this
show. It is the best podcast in

3138
02:55:04,140 --> 02:55:07,680
the universe. Time, talent and
treasure is all we ask for.

3139
02:55:07,800 --> 02:55:11,580
Support us. No agenda.
Donations.com. John, please read

3140
02:55:11,640 --> 02:55:11,940
$50

3141
02:55:12,240 --> 02:55:14,880
John C Dvorak: let's start with
the dame, the dame and Baron of

3142
02:55:14,880 --> 02:55:19,740
Puget Sound in Sammamish, the
suburb they're washing his

3143
02:55:19,740 --> 02:55:25,040
suburb of Seattle. $150 Donald
Francis in Chandler, Arizona.

3144
02:55:25,040 --> 02:55:32,300
12345, van and Newman in
Bernalillo, New Mexico. 105 35

3145
02:55:33,440 --> 02:55:40,840
Matthew bell in Hewitt,
Wisconsin, 100 the first human

3146
02:55:40,840 --> 02:55:45,520
resource coming in. Let me take,
okay, there's a Karma request

3147
02:55:45,520 --> 02:55:48,580
there. You can put that at the
end. Brian s in New York, New

3148
02:55:48,580 --> 02:55:54,460
York. Now these had boots on the
he came in with 100 he has a

3149
02:55:54,460 --> 02:55:59,140
boots of ground, boots on the
ground. Report, counterfeit

3150
02:55:59,140 --> 02:56:04,860
knockoff Street in Canal Street.
Episode 1690 my wife and I

3151
02:56:04,860 --> 02:56:07,320
happened to find ourselves there
earlier this week, and I can

3152
02:56:07,320 --> 02:56:11,340
report the counterfeit trade is
alive and well. Good fun. Canal

3153
02:56:11,340 --> 02:56:15,180
Street. Yeah, sellers used to be
mainly Chinese, that's right.

3154
02:56:15,360 --> 02:56:18,420
Who would entice you into their
store? Now, not necessarily, but

3155
02:56:18,480 --> 02:56:21,440
if you go back far enough,
they're on the street selling

3156
02:56:21,440 --> 02:56:23,840
this stuff. There weren't there
were some guys that take it in

3157
02:56:23,840 --> 02:56:26,360
the back rooms, and you had to
go into the back rooms to get

3158
02:56:26,480 --> 02:56:31,280
the high end Rolex clones. Yes,
that's true. They've been

3159
02:56:31,280 --> 02:56:35,480
supplanted by hordes of
newcomers from Africa. Oh,

3160
02:56:35,480 --> 02:56:37,700
Adam Curry: yes, the newcomers
bringing gifts.

3161
02:56:39,620 --> 02:56:43,780
John C Dvorak: So, so there you
have it. Uh, Omega Man in Las

3162
02:56:43,780 --> 02:56:46,360
Vegas, Nevada comes in, also
with 100 bucks, and he has a

3163
02:56:46,360 --> 02:56:46,720
note that

3164
02:56:46,720 --> 02:56:49,840
Adam Curry: I he's in Bali. He's
in Bali right now.

3165
02:56:50,200 --> 02:56:53,020
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he says,
You, your work is, this is a

3166
02:56:53,020 --> 02:56:56,320
note I'm reading because it's
self promotional. Your work has

3167
02:56:56,320 --> 02:57:00,360
been, I'm being honest,
transparent. Your work has been

3168
02:57:00,360 --> 02:57:04,380
a great inspiration to me. Now
in my 14th year of podcasting,

3169
02:57:04,500 --> 02:57:07,860
eight from the island of Bali in
Indonesia. Following you,

3170
02:57:07,860 --> 02:57:12,060
gentlemen, for many years, you
have the greatest real news show

3171
02:57:12,120 --> 02:57:16,740
on the planet. I encourage
everyone to support no agenda,

3172
02:57:16,740 --> 02:57:18,660
as there is no show like it.

3173
02:57:18,660 --> 02:57:21,920
Adam Curry: I think he has the
most podcast episodes published.

3174
02:57:22,220 --> 02:57:27,080
Of any podcast, it's something
in the 18,000 or something, and

3175
02:57:27,080 --> 02:57:31,280
he has a sub stack. Omega Man,
dot sub stack.com. 11,000

3176
02:57:31,580 --> 02:57:36,020
there's 11,000 11,000 podcast,
thank you. Omega Man, good work.

3177
02:57:36,020 --> 02:57:36,380
Brother

3178
02:57:36,800 --> 02:57:40,400
John C Dvorak: sir. Hand, sure
hand in Trinidad, Colorado, 8438

3179
02:57:42,500 --> 02:57:45,160
I think that's the boobs
donation with plus, yeah, it's a

3180
02:57:45,160 --> 02:57:47,980
boob here's another boob
donation. That would be Aaron

3181
02:57:47,980 --> 02:57:54,880
Garona in grown G, R, o, e, n,
e, in Mead. Nebraska, 3438 sir,

3182
02:57:54,880 --> 02:57:58,240
damn the man. 3438 another boob
donation. There he is. Kevin

3183
02:57:58,240 --> 02:58:00,600
McLaughlin, Concord, North
Carolina. Does it right? 808

3184
02:58:02,160 --> 02:58:05,340
he's the Archduke of lunar lover
of America. And boobs. Charles

3185
02:58:05,340 --> 02:58:10,320
Wheeler in Eldridge, Iowa, 808
without it today. Aaron wieberg

3186
02:58:10,320 --> 02:58:15,480
In Roberts, Wisconsin, 808
what's going on? Boobs. Robert

3187
02:58:15,780 --> 02:58:18,900
Umberger. Umberger in Langhorne,
Pennsylvania, 808

3188
02:58:19,980 --> 02:58:22,280
Adam Curry: and a birthday for
later birthday for Katie, you,

3189
02:58:22,280 --> 02:58:23,240
she's on the list.

3190
02:58:24,800 --> 02:58:27,860
John C Dvorak: And here we go.
Robert Vincent in Mars,

3191
02:58:27,860 --> 02:58:33,380
Pennsylvania, with 808 that is a
very strange phenomenon people

3192
02:58:33,380 --> 02:58:38,900
love. Brian Bryant, Keat, Keefe,
Keef, K, E, F, E. In Sierra,

3193
02:58:38,900 --> 02:58:44,260
VISTA, Arizona, 7903 little la
sir latte in Bremerton,

3194
02:58:44,260 --> 02:58:51,940
Washington. 7777 Douglas Mook in
Concord, concrete 10,

3195
02:58:52,240 --> 02:58:58,300
Pennsylvania, 75 sir becoming
heroic in sharerville, Indiana.

3196
02:58:59,140 --> 02:59:05,640
6886 jiggly boobs. Nice, sir
mainframe, and we got a lot of

3197
02:59:05,640 --> 02:59:11,160
boob guys today, sir, mainframe,
Ventura, California, 64 Bruce

3198
02:59:11,160 --> 02:59:13,800
bear with a birthday new
Staunton, Pennsylvania, 6348

3199
02:59:15,480 --> 02:59:20,040
that's a happy sec. Second 22nd,
birthday to his douchebag son.

3200
02:59:20,220 --> 02:59:25,280
Oh, should we come out as a
douchebag? Yeah? David Cox,

3201
02:59:26,240 --> 02:59:30,740
double douchebag, yeah. David
Cox in Austin, Texas, 6225 6325

3202
02:59:31,880 --> 02:59:34,880
JJ in Ennis, Texas, 6325

3203
02:59:36,200 --> 02:59:38,660
Adam Curry: these are birthdays.
Birthday to you, yes. Thank you.

3204
02:59:38,660 --> 02:59:39,260
Appreciate it,

3205
02:59:40,280 --> 02:59:45,760
John C Dvorak: sir. Ron uh, 6229
Dame Elizabeth Gardner, Kansas,

3206
02:59:45,760 --> 02:59:50,800
62 and that's a birthday call to
her husband. Fluff comment in

3207
02:59:50,800 --> 02:59:56,320
Ladysmith BC, Canada, uh, 6045
another birthday, wishing for

3208
02:59:56,320 --> 03:00:02,700
Adam and her husband. Mark Yes,
45 Kyle Baron of North Valley of

3209
03:00:02,700 --> 03:00:07,860
foxes in Wisconsin, 6011 grace
and insurance. Aurora Cal of

3210
03:00:08,040 --> 03:00:16,680
Colorado. 6006 small boobs.
Gregory kirdak In Padova, Italy.

3211
03:00:17,340 --> 03:00:22,400
Padawan, I think, is what we
call it, Padova, Padova, 6001 we

3212
03:00:22,400 --> 03:00:28,040
need more Italian donors. Brian
levacy, levesy live, see

3213
03:00:29,360 --> 03:00:37,220
Sacramento 60, sir Tigger, Max
Vera, Dale, Washington. 60, uh,

3214
03:00:37,220 --> 03:00:41,860
Jennifer, five uh, fivey. I
think it's five in Alberta,

3215
03:00:41,860 --> 03:00:49,000
Canada, 60. Philip Colborne in
warramu, New South Wales,

3216
03:00:49,060 --> 03:00:56,620
Australia, 60, and he's got a
bunch of eyes. There's something

3217
03:00:56,620 --> 03:01:03,660
sabotes, our buddy in Metairie,
Louisiana. 60, 5809, uh. Les

3218
03:01:03,780 --> 03:01:09,300
Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona,
58 Susan clay camp in Dacula,

3219
03:01:09,300 --> 03:01:17,940
Georgia. 5798 sir lineman in
Anna, Illinois. 5678 Sir Not

3220
03:01:17,940 --> 03:01:22,760
Jake in Thompson, Connecticut.
5678 sir Glen in Raleigh, North

3221
03:01:22,760 --> 03:01:23,540
Carolina, 5510

3222
03:01:24,320 --> 03:01:24,860
Adam Curry: double

3223
03:01:26,120 --> 03:01:30,500
John C Dvorak: nickel, sir
starty. BART fast, a hope Rhode

3224
03:01:30,500 --> 03:01:30,920
Island,

3225
03:01:31,040 --> 03:01:33,200
Adam Curry: I think it's for
slaughter. Bart fest,

3226
03:01:33,440 --> 03:01:37,100
John C Dvorak: Florida. Bart
fast, 54th that's who,

3227
03:01:37,160 --> 03:01:40,900
Adam Curry: memoriam of Francine
the rat who passed today. Yes,

3228
03:01:40,900 --> 03:01:44,020
our literal pet. I'm sorry to
hear that rats can be nice pets.

3229
03:01:44,020 --> 03:01:45,340
I had a pet ride once.

3230
03:01:46,360 --> 03:01:47,140
John C Dvorak: No, really, yeah.

3231
03:01:47,140 --> 03:01:48,040
Adam Curry: His name was Fred.

3232
03:01:50,740 --> 03:01:55,000
John C Dvorak: David Byrne is
5333 Mark Hardwick, I let that

3233
03:01:55,000 --> 03:01:58,540
slide by the way. Mark Hardwick
in Alito, Texas, 5333

3234
03:02:00,220 --> 03:02:10,560
interesting. Roland. Vanden hor
in Hollins, velgenes, I like

3235
03:02:10,560 --> 03:02:10,740
this.

3236
03:02:10,920 --> 03:02:15,120
Adam Curry: It's Rolin van der
har in Holland. Felt 5272 my

3237
03:02:15,120 --> 03:02:18,060
husband, I recently discovered
your podcast. We like it a lot.

3238
03:02:18,660 --> 03:02:21,740
Well, hello, duchies, thanks for
bringing some common sense and

3239
03:02:21,740 --> 03:02:24,560
humor into our lives. Much
appreciated. Take good care. We

3240
03:02:24,560 --> 03:02:27,320
hope to listen for many more
episodes, four more years,

3241
03:02:29,660 --> 03:02:32,120
John C Dvorak: perpetually.
Brittany Miller in Trinidad,

3242
03:02:32,120 --> 03:02:37,400
Colorado, 5272 Todd Lehigh in
Riverton, Utah. These are all

3243
03:02:37,400 --> 03:02:41,080
5270 twos. I won't say the
number anymore. This is actually

3244
03:02:41,080 --> 03:02:44,980
$50 donors, plus the numbers
exactly, Manuel Medeiros and

3245
03:02:44,980 --> 03:02:51,340
Tracy Ernest parten in
Westchester, Ohio, Paul DuBois

3246
03:02:51,580 --> 03:02:57,820
in kerhonkson, New York. You
guys, is it me or you guys start

3247
03:02:57,820 --> 03:03:01,620
leaning away from your no
agenda. Agenda Be that as it

3248
03:03:01,620 --> 03:03:05,040
may. I like I've listened
before, I don't always agree the

3249
03:03:05,640 --> 03:03:06,240
analysis.

3250
03:03:06,240 --> 03:03:09,000
Adam Curry: He must be a
Democrat. Totally,

3251
03:03:09,480 --> 03:03:15,780
John C Dvorak: uh. Carrie Bart,
Bartel to 272 sane sans sains,

3252
03:03:15,780 --> 03:03:20,720
S, A, E, N, Z, cello studios,
that's this, if you're a

3253
03:03:20,720 --> 03:03:26,180
cellist, go to in Houston,
Texas, saying S, A, E, N, Z,

3254
03:03:26,180 --> 03:03:28,100
cello studios. It's

3255
03:03:28,100 --> 03:03:30,080
Adam Curry: gonna be a rush.
It's gonna be a rush at the door

3256
03:03:30,080 --> 03:03:32,120
all the cellists, if

3257
03:03:32,120 --> 03:03:34,580
John C Dvorak: it's indeed, a
cello studio, I don't know.

3258
03:03:34,640 --> 03:03:38,060
Could be an art guy who knows
Boston ward in Millington,

3259
03:03:38,060 --> 03:03:42,760
CONNECTICUT, Connecticut,
Tennessee, 5272 Baroness, Amy.

3260
03:03:42,760 --> 03:03:46,120
Baroness Amy in Jefferson,
Wisconsin. And this is a

3261
03:03:46,120 --> 03:03:48,700
switcheroo to Baron John the
fabulous

3262
03:03:50,020 --> 03:03:51,400
Adam Curry: today. Yeah. Love
you, babe.

3263
03:03:52,420 --> 03:03:58,900
John C Dvorak: Josiah, Thomas
Ankeny, Iowa, 51 and then we go

3264
03:03:58,900 --> 03:04:02,280
to the 50s actually. We start
with Cole dial, who's in Farina,

3265
03:04:02,460 --> 03:04:06,600
Illinois. He does 5050, which is
good. Stephen ray in Spokane,

3266
03:04:06,600 --> 03:04:09,540
Washington, 50. These are all
50s. Edward Missouri in Memphis,

3267
03:04:09,540 --> 03:04:14,100
Tennessee. Robertson home in
Flint, Michigan. Ray Howard in

3268
03:04:14,100 --> 03:04:17,760
Kremlin, Colorado. James Walker
Cole and harmony, Rhode Island.

3269
03:04:18,120 --> 03:04:18,840
Rhode Islanders.

3270
03:04:19,200 --> 03:04:22,940
Adam Curry: James says, Hi John
Adam. This is James Cole using

3271
03:04:22,940 --> 03:04:26,060
my mom's computer. I'd like to
call my mom out as a douchebag.

3272
03:04:26,060 --> 03:04:29,120
That's not very nice.

3273
03:04:30,920 --> 03:04:32,360
Unknown: Cute, though, yes,
cute.

3274
03:04:33,680 --> 03:04:36,440
John C Dvorak: Love these kids.
William Kidwell in Dover,

3275
03:04:36,440 --> 03:04:40,480
Delaware. George wushette, to
Sir, George. He's been around

3276
03:04:40,480 --> 03:04:44,080
forever in La vernia, Texas.
Eric Hoff in Edmonton, Alberta,

3277
03:04:44,080 --> 03:04:49,240
Canada. McDermott Connor in
Salisbury, North Carolina. Megan

3278
03:04:49,240 --> 03:04:54,940
Duckworth in Jeffersonville,
Georgia. Alex Salazar, yes,

3279
03:04:54,940 --> 03:04:55,600
Salazar, I

3280
03:04:55,600 --> 03:04:56,860
Unknown: think that's

3281
03:04:56,860 --> 03:05:01,020
John C Dvorak: right. Shaker
Heights, Ohio, uh. Carrie

3282
03:05:01,020 --> 03:05:06,060
Jackson in walterton, Tennessee.
Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada. And

3283
03:05:06,060 --> 03:05:11,460
last on our list is Alex wenta
in Manchester, Q town, New

3284
03:05:11,460 --> 03:05:16,260
Hampshire. That's our group of
supporters for show 1693

3285
03:05:17,220 --> 03:05:19,020
Adam Curry: thank you all for
hearing the call of the sad

3286
03:05:19,020 --> 03:05:21,380
puppy. Thank you for supporting
the show. No agenda

3287
03:05:21,380 --> 03:05:24,980
donations.com. Again, thanks
everyone under 50, particularly

3288
03:05:24,980 --> 03:05:27,980
those sustaining donations. Even
if you made a donation above 50

3289
03:05:27,980 --> 03:05:30,860
today, we'd appreciate it if you
set us up with a sustaining

3290
03:05:30,860 --> 03:05:34,040
donation, frequency and amount
at your discretion, thank you

3291
03:05:34,040 --> 03:05:36,620
again. And here's some
gratuitous goat karma for those

3292
03:05:36,620 --> 03:05:37,400
who might need it.

3293
03:05:37,760 --> 03:05:38,540
Unknown: You've got

3294
03:05:40,100 --> 03:05:41,920
Adam Curry: karma. Noah do the
donations.com

3295
03:05:50,140 --> 03:05:53,560
and wishes her husband Mark a
happy one. He turned 45 on the

3296
03:05:53,560 --> 03:05:57,400
sixth of September. Ross
Reynolds turned 44 yesterday.

3297
03:05:57,400 --> 03:06:00,120
Baroness Amy says, Happy
Birthday to Baron John the

3298
03:06:00,120 --> 03:06:04,920
fabulous His birthday is today.
Show day. Dame Elizabeth, happy

3299
03:06:04,920 --> 03:06:07,980
birthday to her husband. Surreal
protector of the hobby farm,

3300
03:06:08,160 --> 03:06:11,760
turns 62 tomorrow. Bruce bear
wishes his son, James Blair, a

3301
03:06:11,760 --> 03:06:15,420
very happy one for the 11th. By
the way, September 11 is coming

3302
03:06:15,420 --> 03:06:18,900
up. We're all talking about the
big debate on the 10th. But man

3303
03:06:18,900 --> 03:06:22,760
the September 11, Since he'll be
22 sir. Tooth Fairy wishes his

3304
03:06:22,760 --> 03:06:26,420
human resource. Layla a very
Happy eighth birthday. Robert

3305
03:06:26,420 --> 03:06:30,320
Umberger says, Happy Birthday to
Katie, you and the our very own

3306
03:06:30,320 --> 03:06:34,100
Cliff custodian, the one and
only. Neil Jones, turns 46 years

3307
03:06:34,100 --> 03:06:36,320
old today. Happy birthday,
brother. Happy birthday from

3308
03:06:36,320 --> 03:06:43,000
everybody here, the best podcast
in the universe, and we have

3309
03:06:43,060 --> 03:06:48,040
speaking of the man himself,
cotton gin, Eric, as he's known,

3310
03:06:48,160 --> 03:06:51,520
Coakley, sir cotton gin. A
cotton gin will become a knight.

3311
03:06:51,520 --> 03:06:54,700
Today, he's a layaway Knight.
And he says, Happy Birthday,

3312
03:06:54,700 --> 03:06:56,920
Adam. My last donation puts me
over the threshold for

3313
03:06:56,920 --> 03:06:59,560
knighthood. I would like to be
named Sir cotton gin Knight of

3314
03:06:59,560 --> 03:07:02,820
the button pushers. And he is
indeed a button pusher. He helps

3315
03:07:02,820 --> 03:07:05,460
out a lot with the stream, does
a lot of good things for us,

3316
03:07:06,120 --> 03:07:09,840
sets up all the kinds of
different IRC bots. He's a good

3317
03:07:09,840 --> 03:07:13,620
man. Thank you for your courage.
Here's to another 60 years Eric,

3318
03:07:13,620 --> 03:07:16,980
aka cotton gin, and since he's
the only one, we might as well

3319
03:07:16,980 --> 03:07:19,440
grab our blades right away.
John, if you can get your blade

3320
03:07:19,440 --> 03:07:22,400
out for there's a cotton gin
blade looking good. Hello,

3321
03:07:22,760 --> 03:07:28,520
cotton gin. Step on up. Thanks
to your layaway knights support.

3322
03:07:28,580 --> 03:07:32,840
You actually reach status today,
which means I am very proud to

3323
03:07:32,840 --> 03:07:37,700
pronounce the KD as Sir cotton
gin. Night of the button pushers

3324
03:07:37,760 --> 03:07:40,540
for you. We have hookers and
blow rent poison, Chardonnay,

3325
03:07:40,540 --> 03:07:43,780
cookies and vodka, warm beer and
cold women, taquitos and

3326
03:07:43,780 --> 03:07:47,440
tequila. We've got harlots and
Haldol, redheads and rye highs

3327
03:07:47,620 --> 03:07:52,360
rise. We've got organic macaroni
and plasticizers. That's a big

3328
03:07:52,360 --> 03:07:55,360
favorite on the menu, along with
that beer and blunts, we've got

3329
03:07:55,360 --> 03:07:58,540
rubenes, women and Rose geese,
vodka, vanilla, bonhoetens and

3330
03:07:58,540 --> 03:08:01,200
bourbon sparkling sign on
escorts, ginger ale, gerbils.

3331
03:08:01,200 --> 03:08:04,860
Press filter problem, and there
it is, the mutton and Mead, sir,

3332
03:08:04,860 --> 03:08:08,760
cotton gin. Welcome to the round
table. And while you're munching

3333
03:08:08,760 --> 03:08:12,060
out there on the mutton and
Mead, go to no agenda rings.com

3334
03:08:12,480 --> 03:08:15,540
take a look at that beautiful
ring. It's a sing that ring. You

3335
03:08:15,540 --> 03:08:18,480
will have one in the mail sent
to you once you size it with the

3336
03:08:18,480 --> 03:08:23,180
handy ring finger sizing guide
on the website and give us an

3337
03:08:23,180 --> 03:08:25,640
address. We'll send it off to
you along with some wax to seal

3338
03:08:25,640 --> 03:08:28,460
your important correspondence,
because it is a signet ring.

3339
03:08:28,760 --> 03:08:31,280
It's beautiful. Go take a look
at everybody. No agenda

3340
03:08:31,280 --> 03:08:34,460
rings.com and, of course, as
always, it comes with a

3341
03:08:34,460 --> 03:08:37,760
certificate of authenticity.
Welcome to the round table, sir.

3342
03:08:37,760 --> 03:08:38,180
Cotton

3343
03:08:38,180 --> 03:08:38,480
Unknown: Gin.

3344
03:08:38,780 --> 03:08:40,240
You let's

3345
03:08:47,500 --> 03:08:52,060
Adam Curry: see. I have no audio
reports to play today, but we do

3346
03:08:52,060 --> 03:08:56,140
have a meetup taking place. Of
course, it is the the monthly in

3347
03:08:56,140 --> 03:09:00,360
the in a tribal September
Shindig. Of course it's this is

3348
03:09:00,360 --> 03:09:04,680
the September one. It happens
once a month. It is underway at

3349
03:09:04,680 --> 03:09:07,200
the Prodigy Burger Bar in
Indianapolis, Indiana. That's

3350
03:09:07,200 --> 03:09:10,020
mark and Maria of the Greenwood,
who are hosting that. And they

3351
03:09:10,020 --> 03:09:13,140
will have a great meetup report
for us by the next show. Also

3352
03:09:13,140 --> 03:09:16,620
the too many eggs.com meetup
taking place today in Keene, New

3353
03:09:16,620 --> 03:09:21,140
Hampshire, at the yasho Jamaican
grill in Keene, New Hampshire

3354
03:09:21,380 --> 03:09:24,080
coming up on the calendar,
Kernersville, North Carolina,

3355
03:09:24,080 --> 03:09:27,800
Chattanooga, Tennessee. We've
got Rohnert Park, California,

3356
03:09:27,800 --> 03:09:30,980
Garden City, Idaho, Fort Wayne,
Indiana, San st, Augustine,

3357
03:09:30,980 --> 03:09:33,440
Florida, Tucson, Arizona,
Charlotte, North Carolina,

3358
03:09:33,440 --> 03:09:36,800
Bedford, Texas st, Petersburg,
Florida, San Diego, California,

3359
03:09:36,800 --> 03:09:39,320
Long Beach, California. Goose
Creek, South Carolina,

3360
03:09:39,560 --> 03:09:43,120
Alpharetta, Georgia, Richard
Richland, Washington, Tilburg,

3361
03:09:43,120 --> 03:09:46,720
the Netherlands. On the 28th
Tulsa, Oklahoma, Fredericksburg,

3362
03:09:46,720 --> 03:09:49,720
Texas. October 18, Korean, the
keeper will be there.

3363
03:09:50,560 --> 03:09:54,460
Okeechobee, Florida on the 20th
Ottawa in Scandinavia,

3364
03:09:54,460 --> 03:09:57,880
Emeryville, oh on the second of
November. Went to November

3365
03:09:57,880 --> 03:10:01,560
already, Sacramento, and.
Looking forward to December West

3366
03:10:01,560 --> 03:10:04,680
Palm Beach, Florida. These are
the no agenda meetups that you

3367
03:10:04,680 --> 03:10:08,160
can find at no agenda
meetups.com. It's very it's a

3368
03:10:08,160 --> 03:10:11,100
good website you can check out,
you know, search by location.

3369
03:10:11,340 --> 03:10:14,340
Also some meetup reports are put
back up there. This. It is a

3370
03:10:14,340 --> 03:10:17,700
great way to get to know the
community and the producers,

3371
03:10:17,700 --> 03:10:21,140
known as no agenda nation. Go to
no agenda meetups.com if you

3372
03:10:21,140 --> 03:10:24,560
can't find one near you, start
one yourself. It's easy and

3373
03:10:24,560 --> 03:10:25,520
always a party.

3374
03:10:25,820 --> 03:10:29,720
Unknown: Sometimes you want to
go hang out with all the nights

3375
03:10:29,780 --> 03:10:31,400
and days you wouldn't be where
everybody

3376
03:10:32,660 --> 03:10:35,360
feels the same.

3377
03:10:40,000 --> 03:10:41,680
Feels the same. It's like a
party.

3378
03:10:45,700 --> 03:10:49,420
Adam Curry: Well, this is, uh
disturbing. As far as I can

3379
03:10:49,420 --> 03:10:54,940
tell, both of us have one ISO
each, hmm, which does not bode

3380
03:10:54,940 --> 03:10:58,780
well unless bodes well to me,
you got a killer, then I'll go

3381
03:10:58,780 --> 03:10:59,860
first. Here's, I

3382
03:10:59,860 --> 03:11:03,240
John C Dvorak: don't have a no,
just if I don't care. What

3383
03:11:04,020 --> 03:11:05,400
Adam Curry: do you mean? You
don't care?

3384
03:11:06,180 --> 03:11:09,300
John C Dvorak: I mean, both of
these are probably usable. I

3385
03:11:09,300 --> 03:11:09,660
don't like

3386
03:11:09,660 --> 03:11:11,160
Adam Curry: Well, here we go.
That's so

3387
03:11:11,160 --> 03:11:12,360
Unknown: freaking unsafe.

3388
03:11:13,200 --> 03:11:13,800
Says, What's

3389
03:11:14,940 --> 03:11:16,140
John C Dvorak: that got to do
with anything?

3390
03:11:16,140 --> 03:11:17,640
Adam Curry: Nothing. Let me try
yours

3391
03:11:17,700 --> 03:11:20,660
Unknown: one day. It all makes
sense. Wow. They're both

3392
03:11:20,660 --> 03:11:21,380
horrible.

3393
03:11:23,600 --> 03:11:25,760
John C Dvorak: Well, use one of
the backups from one of the

3394
03:11:25,760 --> 03:11:29,120
previous shows. Last show, for
example, has a bunch it had a

3395
03:11:29,120 --> 03:11:30,020
bunch of good ones. How

3396
03:11:30,020 --> 03:11:31,220
Adam Curry: about this one?
Yeah,

3397
03:11:31,280 --> 03:11:32,240
Unknown: it is big. How

3398
03:11:32,240 --> 03:11:34,220
John C Dvorak: about that? Okay,
fine.

3399
03:11:35,600 --> 03:11:38,660
Adam Curry: You sound so mad,
bro. Hey everybody. It's time

3400
03:11:38,660 --> 03:11:42,940
for our end of show. Tip of the
Day. It's John's corner, JC,

3401
03:11:48,880 --> 03:11:49,960
Unknown: and sometimes Adam,

3402
03:11:50,500 --> 03:11:53,200
Adam Curry: yeah, tip of the day
time. We're all excited to hear

3403
03:11:53,200 --> 03:11:56,020
what you've got lined up for us,
John, what is your tip of the

3404
03:11:56,020 --> 03:11:57,580
day? All

3405
03:11:57,580 --> 03:11:59,740
John C Dvorak: right? Well,
these things cost about 12 bucks

3406
03:11:59,740 --> 03:12:04,500
or so, and this is a recommended
dog walk. If people with dogs,

3407
03:12:04,500 --> 03:12:09,660
would you have a dog that's
medium sized or a big dog? We

3408
03:12:09,660 --> 03:12:12,900
usually have a big dog in our
family somewhere. I mean, he's

3409
03:12:12,900 --> 03:12:17,700
got a fee Fila brasilio, which
is a huge, powerful dog. I

3410
03:12:17,700 --> 03:12:19,560
Adam Curry: got a big dog. I got
a big dog.

3411
03:12:19,860 --> 03:12:21,020
John C Dvorak: Is that a big
dog, really?

3412
03:12:21,080 --> 03:12:26,900
Adam Curry: Phoebe. Phoebe, she
was 120 we got her down. Oh,

3413
03:12:26,960 --> 03:12:28,640
Unknown: that's a big dog, 99
but no,

3414
03:12:28,700 --> 03:12:29,900
Adam Curry: she was big dog.
Then

3415
03:12:29,900 --> 03:12:31,520
John C Dvorak: you need this,
okay, it's

3416
03:12:31,520 --> 03:12:32,600
Adam Curry: a tip. I'm excited.

3417
03:12:33,680 --> 03:12:35,960
John C Dvorak: You want a and
you can look it up. They have

3418
03:12:35,960 --> 03:12:39,200
mid Amazon. There's a couple of
brands there, but you look it

3419
03:12:39,200 --> 03:12:47,320
up, a bungee dog leash. The
bungee dog leash, if you have a

3420
03:12:47,320 --> 03:12:51,820
big dog, or even a medium sized
dog, if they lunge at something

3421
03:12:51,820 --> 03:12:55,000
you don't, doesn't pull your
sock, your arm out of your you

3422
03:12:55,000 --> 03:12:59,440
know, your shoulder out of your
socket. Yeah, it it absorbs the

3423
03:12:59,800 --> 03:13:04,980
initial lurch that a dog will do
and brings it back. You know, to

3424
03:13:04,980 --> 03:13:09,060
normal, the bungee dog leash is
one of the greatest products

3425
03:13:09,060 --> 03:13:12,600
that if you have a dog walking
leash, get one of these things,

3426
03:13:12,600 --> 03:13:15,780
you'll never regret it. It's a
fabulous product. Now,

3427
03:13:15,780 --> 03:13:19,200
Adam Curry: how, how far out
does it? Does it extend? Well,

3428
03:13:19,200 --> 03:13:19,320
they

3429
03:13:19,320 --> 03:13:22,460
John C Dvorak: have a six foot.
What about a couple feet, hmm. I

3430
03:13:22,460 --> 03:13:25,340
mean, it's not like the dog can
go to somebody's throat, because

3431
03:13:25,400 --> 03:13:26,120
I have

3432
03:13:27,320 --> 03:13:31,220
Adam Curry: one of those that
has a, like, a reel in it. So,

3433
03:13:31,280 --> 03:13:31,880
yeah, those

3434
03:13:31,880 --> 03:13:32,600
John C Dvorak: are no good.

3435
03:13:34,160 --> 03:13:37,220
Adam Curry: You want the bungee
dog? Okay, all right. Well, you

3436
03:13:37,220 --> 03:13:39,620
know, this might be for Tina,
because when she's walking the

3437
03:13:39,620 --> 03:13:43,660
dog, our dog has some PTSD
because, you know, she's a

3438
03:13:43,720 --> 03:13:45,040
rescue from her tree line.

3439
03:13:45,100 --> 03:13:48,100
John C Dvorak: Tina will thank
me profusely for this

3440
03:13:48,100 --> 03:13:51,040
recommendation of the bungee
dog.

3441
03:13:51,160 --> 03:13:54,640
Adam Curry: I like it well, and
I will have her send you a

3442
03:13:54,640 --> 03:13:57,520
personal note if she is that
happy with the product.

3443
03:13:58,060 --> 03:14:00,340
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and they're
not expensive. So, all right,

3444
03:14:00,580 --> 03:14:01,500
there it is, everybody,

3445
03:14:01,500 --> 03:14:05,460
Adam Curry: your tip of the day.
Holy, handy ideas, Batman,

3446
03:14:05,520 --> 03:14:08,880
Unknown: it's the tip of the
day. There you go. There's

3447
03:14:08,880 --> 03:14:10,800
the guy. There you go. All

3448
03:14:10,800 --> 03:14:13,800
Adam Curry: right, everybody,
thank you very much for being

3449
03:14:13,800 --> 03:14:19,320
with us once again, coming to
you from the cruise ship,

3450
03:14:19,320 --> 03:14:23,660
capital of Mexico, just north of
Puerto Vallarta. Are

3451
03:14:23,660 --> 03:14:25,580
John C Dvorak: you? Are there
cruise ships out there that you

3452
03:14:25,580 --> 03:14:29,180
can see? Nope, nope. Well, some
capital,

3453
03:14:30,920 --> 03:14:33,740
Adam Curry: no, it's on the
other side. Can't see it coming

3454
03:14:33,740 --> 03:14:38,300
up next, though, we do have
random thoughts, random

3455
03:14:38,420 --> 03:14:43,660
thoughts, the clueless
collective, and we have two end

3456
03:14:43,660 --> 03:14:46,900
of show mixes. David keckka
checks in as usual. The guy is

3457
03:14:46,900 --> 03:14:50,560
always checking in. Really
appreciate that, David. We could

3458
03:14:50,560 --> 03:14:56,440
use more end of show mixes. So I
rolled out a classic, which is

3459
03:14:56,500 --> 03:15:01,020
sir. Chris, sir. Chris Wilson
would then. Alessi brothers

3460
03:15:01,080 --> 03:15:05,700
spoof of O Laurie, it is O Elon.
So I'm sure you will enjoy that,

3461
03:15:05,880 --> 03:15:09,720
although John doesn't like the
key that it's sung in. Coming to

3462
03:15:09,720 --> 03:15:13,740
you over the last time here from
Mexico, I'll be back on Thursday

3463
03:15:13,740 --> 03:15:17,340
from home base in the morning.
Everybody. I'm Adam curry,

3464
03:15:17,820 --> 03:15:20,120
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, which is the

3465
03:15:20,120 --> 03:15:21,800
home base. I'm John C Dvorak. We

3466
03:15:21,800 --> 03:15:24,800
Adam Curry: return on Thursday.
Please join us for another three

3467
03:15:24,800 --> 03:15:27,620
hours of media deconstruction
and remember us at no agenda

3468
03:15:27,620 --> 03:15:32,660
donations.com Until then, adios
mofo is a hooey, hooey and such.

3469
03:15:32,660 --> 03:15:32,720
I

3470
03:15:33,560 --> 03:15:35,480
Unknown: certainly see a
position where the world's gonna

3471
03:15:35,480 --> 03:15:38,480
have to come together and create
some rules around social media

3472
03:15:38,480 --> 03:15:42,280
platforms. And I think that's
quite, quite what the answer is

3473
03:15:42,280 --> 03:15:45,100
and what the right system of
regulation is, I'm not sure, but

3474
03:15:45,280 --> 03:15:47,440
I'm sure there should be,
because hostility and hatred.

3475
03:15:47,440 --> 03:15:51,340
But I think we can't travel as
we are. And I think the impact

3476
03:15:51,340 --> 03:15:56,440
on young people, particularly
when they got access to mobile

3477
03:15:57,040 --> 03:16:01,720
phones, very young, and they're
reading a lot of stuff and

3478
03:16:01,720 --> 03:16:04,200
receiving a lot of stuff.

3479
03:16:08,040 --> 03:16:11,700
Brazilian government and Elon
Musk have been in a feud. It

3480
03:16:11,700 --> 03:16:16,200
began when a Brazilian judge
Alexandra de Morales ordered

3481
03:16:16,320 --> 03:16:20,420
regulators to ban access the
social media platform X after

3482
03:16:20,420 --> 03:16:23,900
Musk refused to appoint a legal
representative in the country.

3483
03:16:25,400 --> 03:16:29,120
Millions of people in Brazil no
longer have access to X. Used to

3484
03:16:29,120 --> 03:16:31,880
be known as Twitter. Brazil's
Supreme Court blocked the social

3485
03:16:31,880 --> 03:16:35,360
media platform over the weekend
after owner Elon Musk refused

3486
03:16:35,360 --> 03:16:38,540
court orders, including one to
name a representative in the

3487
03:16:38,540 --> 03:16:42,160
country. People who do have
access to x by VPN, they can

3488
03:16:42,160 --> 03:16:45,520
face 1000s of dollars in fines.
Musk and a top justice on

3489
03:16:45,520 --> 03:16:48,100
Brazil's high court have been
feuding for months over

3490
03:16:48,100 --> 03:16:49,840
disinformation on the platform.

3491
03:16:50,200 --> 03:17:01,080
I'd like to keep my check mark.
It's about my if after all those

3492
03:17:01,080 --> 03:17:10,980
years of patriarchy, oh Obama.
Look, here's the thing, Twitter

3493
03:17:10,980 --> 03:17:20,940
shouldn't be just left wing. I
like to hide my racist views

3494
03:17:21,060 --> 03:17:28,640
from you with a handle that LARP
so I can remain anonymous and

3495
03:17:28,640 --> 03:17:36,500
Hound those snarky snarks
posting peppy means and playing

3496
03:17:36,500 --> 03:17:39,380
both extremes. My

3497
03:17:39,380 --> 03:17:41,260
kill alive puppy on Twitter
spaces.

3498
03:17:46,840 --> 03:17:53,560
You go to trow is truly on blue,
and those fingers are reeling.

3499
03:18:00,280 --> 03:18:07,260
Jump out of the future, which
husband are you? A Mayan band

3500
03:18:07,260 --> 03:18:15,660
now, after tweeting big, massive
dumps to Dunn Junior, after all,

3501
03:18:15,720 --> 03:18:25,580
my old accounts are uncovered,
we love all you wanna do is

3502
03:18:25,580 --> 03:18:28,700
authenticate the groom. You

3503
03:18:28,700 --> 03:18:32,120
can tell it's real because it
looks so fake, so fake, so fake.

3504
03:18:34,880 --> 03:18:36,500
You go to troll. It's

3505
03:18:37,820 --> 03:18:46,420
truly on blue, and those
sphincters are reeling when he

3506
03:18:46,420 --> 03:18:46,900
has a

3507
03:18:52,900 --> 03:18:53,560
vision for Mars.

3508
03:18:56,380 --> 03:18:58,780
It's the right vision. And I
think he can articulate

3509
03:18:58,780 --> 03:19:01,540
something really compelling, and
I don't understand half of what

3510
03:19:01,540 --> 03:19:03,780
he's saying. We'll make this guy
saying. I'm like this guy knows

3511
03:19:03,780 --> 03:19:06,420
what he's talking about. When he
talks about moving equipment

3512
03:19:06,420 --> 03:19:09,060
into the atmosphere for less
money, using reusable rockets,

3513
03:19:09,060 --> 03:19:13,680
when he talks about electric
vehicles, he has absolutely no

3514
03:19:13,680 --> 03:19:16,920
vision here other than First
Amendment blather. None of it

3515
03:19:16,920 --> 03:19:19,680
makes any sense. What does he
want to kill a live puppy on

3516
03:19:19,680 --> 03:19:22,520
Twitter spaces? What is he
talking about?

3517
03:19:31,100 --> 03:19:41,320
A kill a lime puppy. Don't shout
out of the future.

3518
03:19:41,500 --> 03:19:45,100
Which husband are you so fake
you

3519
03:19:46,480 --> 03:19:47,680
can tell it's real. Your

3520
03:19:47,680 --> 03:19:53,800
goal to travel is truly on the
land the sphincters are reeling

3521
03:19:56,200 --> 03:19:56,320
so.

3522
03:20:05,220 --> 03:20:06,420
Adam Curry: Podcast is on
universe.org/na,

3523
03:20:10,620 --> 03:20:12,180
Unknown: yeah, it is big. It.