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Unknown: Okay? Adam curry.

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John C Dvorak, Sunday,

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Adam Curry: August 11, 2024 the
sure board winning. Give our

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nation media assassination,
Episode 1685,

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Unknown: this is no agenda,

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Adam Curry: vaping in the boys
room and broadcasting live from

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the heart of the Texas, new
country here in FEMA Region,

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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry from

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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley. We have throngs of

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people created by AI, what a
winner. I'm John C Dvorak

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Unknown: buzzkill, in the
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Adam Curry: I spent a
significant time looking at that

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yesterday, that at the throngs
of people?

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John C Dvorak: Well, there's
more than one or two examples.

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Adam Curry: Here's the only
thing. I cannot find, any

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evidence the Harris campaign has
actually posted any of these

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pictures. Seems to me that
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saying, Look what they posted. I

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John C Dvorak: Does that include
the airplane one? Yes, which is

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my favorite?

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Adam Curry: Yeah, the airplane.
I found the origin of the

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airplane one. It's an AP
picture, and the way it was done

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is there, I guess the hair,
they're copying everything, the

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Harris campaign, Harris waltz,
hey, waltz campaign.

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John C Dvorak: Harry balls,
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Adam Curry: there you go. Harry
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doing hanger appearances. So it
was a shot that was cry. It was

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a shot from the back of a hangar
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itself, already gives an
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way up to the plane, and then,
you know, I there's probably

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some other stuff put in there,
but I what I can. I did Google

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image. I tried everything I
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evidence that the Harris
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campaign, actually posted that
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John C Dvorak: I haven't done
that research, and I think a lot

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of this stuff eventually
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have to go to Facebook to do
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Adam Curry: do that. No, that's
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point. Some, some producers,
have been looking for me, and

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they they haven't got much
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either, although it doesn't look
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doctored, but there's a lot of
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you know, they're doing
appearances in, you know, at

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free concerts with a bunch of,
you know, with some Spotify

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Latino star, and then they'll do
a little pre game. So yeah, but

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ultimately, it's kind of
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is responding, oh, that's not
true. It's fake, yeah. So

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they're kind of getting under
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John C Dvorak: a meme. What's
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they're getting under his skin,
but I keep hearing that on CNBC

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and Yeah, well, now our CNN and
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skin. In fact, today, that guy,
Steele, the black guy, who used

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Adam Curry: Republican, he used
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Party, yeah, which

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John C Dvorak: was a sign of a
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Republican. It seems now he is
the substitute host for Jen

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suckey. Well,

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Adam Curry: of course, he's
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does that. He does Sunday
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used to run the the Bernie
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John C Dvorak: So he's, he was
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about us getting under Trump's
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Adam Curry: okay, well, it's I
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to the crowd size. I don't have
proof of that. I do have proof

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of them saying that. And of
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it, I guess that right away we
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here's a joy Reid.

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Unknown: I want to play this lie
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string of lies yesterday, that

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Adam Curry: string of lies show
title already everybody

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Unknown: sundowning press
conference that he did. This is

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a story he told about Willie
Brown. Shouldn't it be

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Adam Curry: the necklace of lies
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lies. Let's keep it there. Oh
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story. This is funny, and

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Unknown: I want you all to note
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Brown. All right, take a listen.
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know Willie Brown very well. In
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helicopter with him. We thought
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me terrible things about her.

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Okay, that's not who he meant.
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Willie Brown. Willie Brown came
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when he heard Trump's
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but respect and admiration for
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president. Harris, Willie Brown
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electing her to be the
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probably be unfair, because he
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the brown that he meant was
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was the governor, but said that
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about Vice President. HARRIS
either it was gavid Newsome, who

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was in a helicopter with Trump
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wildfire damage, and he said
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about the helicopter crashing,
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instead of Paradise, and
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forests. Trump never had an
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Adam Curry: Okay, so I played
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crowd clip. I'll play that in a
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couple of things, string of
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Well, there was a horrible crash
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where, you know, everyone died,
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was on it. There was another
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had an engine issue. So it's not
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the helicopter, but I could not
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looking. We're trying to find
ATC, we're trying to find NTSB

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reports. I cannot find any
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helicopter other than those two
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be adamant about it, and that
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if, if you didn't know, I think
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that, but I watched like, 20
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interview, which is not even
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it. He just says, no, no, he
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about. He didn't deny it at any
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you saw that in like the
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just live in the restaurant in
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in there. You know, during the
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tablecloths on. He's like, Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: in the olden
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business, which was the
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a number of times with Mimi, and
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Adam Curry: So it's more likely
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Willie Brown lives in the
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lying. Here's the small crowd
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Unknown: Trump went so far. This
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about this today. He compared
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before the Capitol insurrection.
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the mall to the Capitol to one
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that's been delivered here in
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Look at Martin Luther King when
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speech. And you look at ours,
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everything, same number of
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not we had more. This is a whole
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the thing about his obsession
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mother always taught me when a
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of anything. In this case,

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crowds. Where there's an
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he's probably insecure. That's,
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think women know what I'm
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car, it's your crowd, it's your
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Adam Curry: yeah. So that's,
that's probably the only thing

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he said about it. So they are
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They're trying to bring back a
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know, the media is really no,
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John C Dvorak: I can only think
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before Can we go back and take a
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re, rejigger it. Maybe that'll
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preoccupied. Oh,

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Adam Curry: I mean, it's, it was
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topics for today, just like,
What is going on? It's like

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everyone's hair on fire, running
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the television. Same thing. This
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though we know that in Nevada,
which is the big, you know, big

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service sector, Trump, almost a
month ago, I think at this

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point, said, You know, he told
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waitress, you know server and
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me, says, Ah, how about this?
I've got an idea. How about no

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taxes on tips. So when Kamala
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Unknown: Vice President Harris
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one.

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And it is my promise to everyone
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will continue our fight for
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of America, including to raise
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taxes on tips for service and
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Adam Curry: that's pretty
awesome. Just take it from Trump

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and just lay it out there like
it's something new. I was good.

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John C Dvorak: That was the bill
clinton trick. Oh, do tell me

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Bill Clinton that always. They
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there, he would do that
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idea was from the other side of
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yeah. And he did it very
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John C Dvorak: I mean, what you
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Adam Curry: falter for it. It's
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CBS, though they were doing,
they did a kind of an excellent

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propaganda piece with poll
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good now is they're doing the
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So camel is all smiley and
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Unknown: grumpy, exactly.

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Adam Curry: It's the picture
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shot. So you just look at it and
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Mean, mad guy over here, with
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to it, and you'll see what
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Unknown: Vice President Harris
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Saturday and rallied supporters
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your help this November, we will
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it capped a week long
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but she shut down the crowd when
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about Trump,

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hold on the court's going to
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beat him in November,

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a new New York Times Siena
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among likely voters in three key
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and Wisconsin. Former President
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Wyoming and Colorado Saturday
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night, we're going

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to evict crazy camel.

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But this morning, before Trump
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Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go
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singer released a statement
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authorized, and Celine Dion does
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use. Meanwhile, the Trump
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Politico first reported
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research documents from an
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campaign suggesting Iran may be
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Adam Curry: Now, this was rather
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got some spokesman from the
Trump camp saying we were hacked

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by Iran, huh? Microsoft coming
out immediately. Oh, yeah, no,

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that was a and they always do
this spear fishing. Don't we

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just say fishing? Why does the
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John C Dvorak: Because,
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Adam Curry: it's odd, by the
way, Trump should just call her

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cookie camera. This crazy camel
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John C Dvorak: be. He's still
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why he hasn't used cackling.
That's the one that we both

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Adam Curry: cookie would work.
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John C Dvorak: thing is kind of
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circles, Iran is notorious for
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than the Ukrainians, and I
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Camela in. I don't know what the
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Adam Curry: I think it's to me,
first of all, Microsoft comes

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out right away. Microsoft, you
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they're, they're leaky as a
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did a deal with, or is it here?
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Palantir to sell AI systems into
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John C Dvorak: really get back
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Adam Curry: and what was that?
What actually came out? Again,

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it's ProPublica, the same guys
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all the rushing Russian
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John C Dvorak: can't be trusted.
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Adam Curry: to me, it's more
like and what came out? Oh, we

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have a 271 pages on research on
JD Vance, one portion, which was

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marked possible vulnerabilities.
Yeah, hello. That's what you

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John C Dvorak: do when you vet a
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Adam Curry: so this, this
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but it could be a little signal,
because that's the one thing

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everyone forgets, is the
intelligence community they hate

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Trump the most. I really have to
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they'd like to be in control the
military industrial complex, you

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know, even big pharma, to a
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kind of placated with his Iron
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that cost us. You know, big,
beautiful ships. So you know,

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like, you know Trump, you know,
but we get our money. We don't

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have to go to war. Maybe you
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but the intelligence agencies,
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saying, Well, you know, it said,
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disinformation. Now it's like,
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who knows? And now it gives them
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other bogus stuff and just say,
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John C Dvorak: It totally,
totally, and I hate to use that

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word, you know, I ran into
Michael Hayden. Totally,

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totally, the bald guy, Michael
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big signees on that 51 guys. You
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post on Twitter. Oh, okay, he
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it might as well just be Rob
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preoccupied with hating on
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virtues of Camela. Yes, it's the
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People should look it up, and
it's got a check mark. It's

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General. Michael Hayden is, or
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Air Force General, I guess. And
he goes on and on. He was head

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of the CIA and NSA, and he's
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Adam Curry: well, again, it's
like those guys like to run

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everything. CIA ran Obama. I can
totally see it. Here's a shorty,

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internal documents from an
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Adam Curry: Oh, sorry. Politico,
I thought it was ProPublica.

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John C Dvorak: yeah, it was
Politico. Political. Wait, what

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they talk about pro? That's what
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documents from an anonymous
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blaming hackers from Iran. Yes,

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Adam Curry: I remember one was
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account. And I can tell you with
some authority that many former

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intelligence people and current
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Adam Curry: don't know if I have
no idea. Maybe, because back

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when the code could be code,
maybe back in the day when the

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AOL accounts were available. You
know who you had an AOL account?

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Bucha, Nick Channing had an AOL
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this. For some reason, they have
AOL accounts. So I'm not sure. I

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John C Dvorak: didn't even know.
I probably still have an AOL

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account. I had dvorak@aol.com
but I don't know how to access

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it. Yeah, well, anymore I don't
know. Problem. No idea it.

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password. I don't know

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Adam Curry: how to do it
anymore. It was Glenn Greenwald

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made a good observation about
Kamala Harris, which, and I'll

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revamp this clip that we played
two shows ago. Remember when the

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when the protesters started
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talking, you know? I'll play it
against just short tax

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Unknown: breaks to billionaires
and big corporations. He intends

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to cut Social Security and
Medicare. He intends to

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surrender our fight against the
climate crisis, and he intends

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to end the Affordable Care Act.
You know what? If you want

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Donald Trump to win, then say
that otherwise, I'm speaking

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Adam Curry: so Greenwald posted
a page from Animal Farm,

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classic, classic novel Orwell's
animal form Animal Farm, and

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I'll read it to you. We pigs are
brain workers. The whole

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management and organization of
this farm depend on us. Day and

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night. We are watching over your
welfare. It is for your sake

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that we drink that milk and eat
those apples. Do you know what

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would happen if we pigs failed
in our duty farmer? Jones would

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come back. Yes, Jones would come
back. Surely, comrades cried,

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Squealer, almost pleadingly,
skipping from side to side and

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whisking his tail. Surely,
there's no one among you who

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wants to see Jones come back.

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Unknown: Very good observation
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Adam Curry: There is, they're
the pigs in Animal Farm. It's

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fantastic, yeah. Well,

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John C Dvorak: that's what it
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Adam Curry: Now amidst all this,
I've had a couple of thoughts

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about this when actually was
Nancy Pelosi, pop. Up this

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morning in my feed with, I'm not
sure who she's been

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John C Dvorak: showing up
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Adam Curry: and you've got to
wonder why. Let me see this was,

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John C Dvorak: I want to stop
you as you go on to this, you

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have to wonder why I it, is it
possible that Biden is going to

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rebuke his being kicked out? Ah,
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Adam Curry: I have a thought
about that. Listen to what

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Pelosi says here. And this is
about the the letter that

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No White House letterhead looked
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least not what he has used
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here's what she said. This just
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Unknown: I didn't accept the
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I mean, I mean, there are some
people who are unhappy with the

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letter. Let me say some said
that some people were unhappy

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with the letter. I'll put it in
somebody else's mouth because it

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was a I don't mean it didn't
sound like Joe Biden to me. It

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Adam Curry: So what is she
saying here? She's saying that

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Joe Biden didn't write it, that
Jill might have written it, or

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someone else. Well, actually, if

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John C Dvorak: you start looking
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Adam Curry: oh, that's his
campaign guy. Mike Donald

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John C Dvorak: is more than his
campaign guy. If you look him up

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in the Wikipedia, you'll find
out that Mike Donald who is the

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brother of Tom Donilon, Black
Rock, the two brothers are in it

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together. Tom Donilon is the one
who Seymour Hersh thinks is

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running everything. But Mike
Donilon is the guy that's in the

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White House. He takes credit for
writing the letter he said, he

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said so much. It's not like a
big mystery. I don't know why

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this is becoming a mystery.
Everybody nobody wants to talk

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about. To talk about this guy.
He did. I mean, he's been

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running Biden since 81 or so.
It's all listed in there. It was

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Adam Curry: also Bill Clinton's
who's in Clinton? Chief of Staff

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in for the State Department. He
says, Chief of Staff in former

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Bill Clinton State Department,
former National Security Advisor

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John C Dvorak: There you go.
Yeah, no, this guy's getting

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running things, and he, if you
look around, admits that he

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Adam Curry: Oh, I didn't see
that. I didn't know that. Well,

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why is Nancy Pelosi being so
weird about it? If it's out

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there that he wrote the letter,

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John C Dvorak: I don't know
where she's get she's weird

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about something. And Donald
quit. Left in January, and then

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came. He supposedly quit in
January, but yet he wrote the

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letter, which was in July. So
he's never really left. He's

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just still hanging around. And
now they have Paul Podesta and

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people like that running the
show this. Something is very

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fishy about all this well, and
I'm liking the idea that Biden's

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gonna come out on the first day
of the conventions. Hey, I

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didn't quit. I ever wrote that
letter? Yeah, I want my votes

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back. Hello, it could

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Adam Curry: be that or, I mean,
you know, I've been watching

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Veep. We've been binge watching,
using

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John C Dvorak: this as the
parallel I am. I am, yeah, to

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analyze the situation currently
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Adam Curry: and last night,
yeah, I mean, yes, exactly. Last

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night, we got to the episode
where Selena Meyer is

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campaigning for president, and
she has a debate, and she comes

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in second, some douche bag
baseball coach does much better,

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and then all of a sudden, she
gets word the President is going

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to resign because his wife keeps
trying to commit suicide, and

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she's going to be president. And
I thought, wouldn't that be? So

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there's two ways. And remember,
I also watched Dave. I mean, all

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this stuff just keeps popping up
for me. It's like, you know. So

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the options are, Biden keels
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beginning, because he's
scheduled to speak on the first

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night, I think so he keels over,
you know, or dead just keels

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over. Or that, that Daddy Long
Legs guy comes in and keels

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over. That could be one option.
The other is, Biden comes out

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and says, Hey, guy, like you
say, how are my votes back? I

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didn't do it. Or he just says,
you know, I'm looking at the

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National Enquirer, which I
picked up at HEB, because that

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now is that still Trump's guys
who run the National Enquirer?

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Yeah, yeah. So front page. Real
Reason Biden quit. It's not what

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you think untold story so well,
there you go. There's

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John C Dvorak: your tease that
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Adam Curry: I was reading it,
and the article is almost at the

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end, and so I'm reading it as
the belt is going and I felt

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like such a douche. I'm like,
Okay, I guess. Have to buy it

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now, because they can see me
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last four more years. Shocking

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reason. Biden quit presidential
race. And then they have some

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psychologist, Holly Schiff, who
basically says, now he's he's

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got dementia. Well, what was
what? What reason was there

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otherwise. I mean, that was a
phase that was, wow, bogus.

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John C Dvorak: a breakthrough
thought. That's

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Adam Curry: bogus. Totally
bogus. Now,

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John C Dvorak: well, the
possibility, I kind of agree

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with these, these different
scenarios, and we have to, we

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got till the 19th to keep
dreaming him up. Yes, but the

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other possibility is that, you
know, that he real. I think it

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now, as I look back on the
debate, I think they, you know,

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because they're always going to
get Jack jacked up. Joe is was

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missing, and we're always
wondering, why is it possible

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that they actually gave him a
sedative instead of his normal

442
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amphetamine cocktail, or
whatever they do to get him

443
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jacked up? Yeah, so, so he was
out there just having you in a

444
00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:06,420
daze, and you just know what to
do. He figures this out. He gets

445
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rid of the doctors who screwed
him over for the debate. Gets

446
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another guy that you know, Dr
feelgood character, in there to

447
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Jack him up so he is all wired
to the gills on the on the 19th,

448
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and that's when he freaks out
and wants his votes back. This

449
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could be fun.

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Adam Curry: It's very possible.
I went to YouTube and let me

451
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see. Where's Joe. What's he
doing? Because you haven't heard

452
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much about Joe, and it's really
not Joe. It's really Jill new

453
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Unknown: at 11. President Joe
Biden and First Lady Jill Biden

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are heading to New Orleans. They
will attend a Biden Cancer

455
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Moonshot event in the city on
Tuesday. Details are limited on

456
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what time and where they have
not been released yet. In March

457
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of 2023 the First Lady visited
the Louisiana Cancer Research

458
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Center in New Orleans to stress
the importance of cancer

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research. You

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Adam Curry: remember Dr Jill?
You know, she should have been

461
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Surgeon General, because she's a
great doctor, according to

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Whoopi

463
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John C Dvorak: Goldberg,
nothing. So

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Adam Curry: they're still out
there. They're still twiddling

465
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around. I mean, it could be
super fun. It would be so boring

466
00:27:17,580 --> 00:27:21,620
if he just gets up there and
goes and there's nothing. It

467
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would be great. And just think
about it, if, and I have not

468
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seen the rest of V but if she
becomes president, then

469
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immediately there's all kinds of
issues that come into play. A

470
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first of all, Trump's
merchandise sucks. He's got to

471
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redo all that that'll that can
basically up the GDP of China

472
00:27:40,660 --> 00:27:46,540
for all the new hats. Second,
can she then be blamed for

473
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everything that's happening,
which, I mean, can she even

474
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campaign as much with with two
wars and Iran and all this stuff

475
00:27:54,220 --> 00:28:00,220
going on? And could that be a
rug pull from Obama? Who knows?

476
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I mean, we're just dreaming
here. But, man, I

477
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John C Dvorak: know we're having
nothing but fun. Yeah, it's

478
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true. We're dreaming up
screwball ideas and scenarios

479
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,660
that could happen. Any one of
them could happen, yeah, but

480
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Adam Curry: I don't hear anyone
else coming up with these

481
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,140
screwball ideas, just us.

482
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,140
John C Dvorak: I don't know
what. Well, it's because you got

483
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the partisan media, you know, if
they weren't, if they were a

484
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partisan like the no agenda
show, where we don't really take

485
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us necessarily sides, we just
look for explanations that make

486
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sense. Yeah, a lot of this makes
sense, if you think about it. I

487
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,780
mean, there it was presented by
Trump that Biden might do that,

488
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yes, and once it but once that
thought is triggered, then you

489
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have to take it to some, you
know, some logical extreme, and

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say, Well, what happens if he
does this or that? And then

491
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what, what would happen if, if
Biden went and said, I want my

492
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:56,140
votes back, chaos. It would be

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Adam Curry: great. Well, then
there's the the lone wolf out

494
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,400
there who showed up on for some
reason now, a no agenda fan

495
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,140
favorite, Jesse waters,

496
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John C Dvorak: and I always your
turn. I always had balls in your

497
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,640
car. Your turn. Yeah, see
waters, but

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Adam Curry: I cut him out of my
clips. Here's Bobby the OP. We

499
00:29:17,940 --> 00:29:21,320
finished the trials today. We
had a one week trial in Albany,

500
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the DNC is trying to get me off
the ballot in New York State and

501
00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:29,540
then all the other states. So
there is there essentially suing

502
00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:33,680
me in every state we had. They
in order to get on the ballot in

503
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this state, they they made so
many signatures. You need to get

504
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47,000 signatures in 45 days.
They tried to make it

505
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,300
insurmountable. We got 150,000
signatures. We got a million

506
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:50,140
signatures nationally, and we're
now on the ballot on all we are.

507
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Have enough signatures now to
get on the ballot in every

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state, something everybody said
we couldn't do. There's a

509
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million Americans who want to
vote, who want to see my name on

510
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the ballot. Call it the DNC
strategy, is to make sure that

511
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they will not see me on the
ballot. My father and uncle,

512
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when they were running the
Democratic Party, their big

513
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objective was to make sure that
every American could vote, and

514
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today, the DNC is about making
sure that people don't have that

515
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opportunity. Now, if it's true
what he's saying, Why? Why are

516
00:30:20,660 --> 00:30:23,900
they so worried about him? Other
than man Joe could do something

517
00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:28,340
really wacky, and then Bobby The
Op might pop up all of a sudden.

518
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I think a lot of people are so
sick of everything, they'd be

519
00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:36,140
like, ah, the most sane guy
right now seems to be RFK Jr.

520
00:30:36,140 --> 00:30:39,560
Rogan would come out for him.
Lots of people would say, Yeah,

521
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,980
this guy's the only guy who's
even though there's a lot of

522
00:30:41,980 --> 00:30:44,560
problems with him, you know
what? I mean,

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John C Dvorak: yeah, well, they
just worry he's going to siphon

524
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votes away from the Democrat
ticket. Yeah, I don't think it's

525
00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:53,320
any more to it than that. Maybe

526
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Adam Curry: you don't know.

527
00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:56,860
John C Dvorak: I mean, Jill
Stein's not going to sucker any

528
00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:58,060
votes away anymore.

529
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Adam Curry: Mary Ann Williams
deep in, Mary Ann Williamson,

530
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,460
here's the Swift ops, somewhat
in play,

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Unknown: and it is my promise to
everyone here when I am

532
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,840
president. Sorry,

533
00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:12,240
Adam Curry: wrong one, I'm not
good today in my

534
00:31:14,820 --> 00:31:17,460
John C Dvorak: Taylor Swift
falling apart. Yeah, did

535
00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:20,960
Unknown: Taylor Swift endorse?
Kamala Harris, the mega star has

536
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,600
yet to make a public
endorsement, but fans think an

537
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,860
Instagram post from two days ago
on Swift's account contained a

538
00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:32,600
silhouette eerily similar to
Kamala Harris as a telltale

539
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,340
sign. Ooh, telltale

540
00:31:34,340 --> 00:31:36,800
Adam Curry: sign, eerily
similar. Mmm, who

541
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John C Dvorak: cares what Taylor
Swift's gonna do, though she

542
00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:42,160
Adam Curry: has all those 13
year olds who can vote. It's

543
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,540
very important.

544
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,320
John C Dvorak: Well, they can
vote, if it's a Democrat state,

545
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:55,420
if they're 13. Oh, any age
doesn't matter. Six.

546
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,540
Adam Curry: You're good kid.
Come on in. Do you know your

547
00:31:58,540 --> 00:32:00,760
address? Can you can you tell me
your attitude?

548
00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:03,300
John C Dvorak: You don't need to
see it. You want to show ID.

549
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:04,740
Don't worry about it. I have

550
00:32:04,740 --> 00:32:07,380
Adam Curry: two more Pelosi
clips. Maybe there's something

551
00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:10,560
in here we can glean. Because
she was, she is everywhere

552
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,260
suddenly, saying that thing
about Biden, is

553
00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:15,240
John C Dvorak: something going
did this? What this is? What

554
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,100
makes me think something's up.
Because, why? Why anywhere?

555
00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:22,940
Well, here's here she is. They
always call her this speaker

556
00:32:22,940 --> 00:32:27,200
Emeritus. When did that title
show up? Do they call Kevin

557
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,540
McCarthy the Speaker Emeritus?

558
00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:34,160
Adam Curry: And am I the VJ
emeritus? Yeah, you would be, by

559
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,520
their standards. Are you
columnist emeritus for PC

560
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:37,940
Magazine

561
00:32:37,940 --> 00:32:40,720
John C Dvorak: emeritus? Yeah,
PC Magazine emeritus. I like

562
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Adam Curry: it. I like VJ
emeritus. I'm going to use that

563
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,740
from now on. Hello, Adam.

564
00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:47,560
John C Dvorak: Sounds like a
good name for it, for for guys

565
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:54,760
doing mixing, yeah, mixologist,
mixologist, specifically for

566
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,020
mixing drinks. Never mind

567
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,120
Adam Curry: when, when Joe lar
Logan's husband introduced me to

568
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,420
General Flynn. He should have
said, this is a VJ emeritus. Oh,

569
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you're the right honorable Adam
curry, V J emeritus is joy Reid

570
00:33:08,340 --> 00:33:09,300
again with Nancy. I

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Unknown: do want to talk a
little bit about that. You're

572
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from, emerge from that San
Francisco political world. Of

573
00:33:15,420 --> 00:33:20,540
course, you are from Baltimore,
from be more but you and there's

574
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something about the Bay Area,
let me just list be more.

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Baltimore

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Adam Curry: is be more. I've
never heard be more. Maybe it's

577
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a joy, Reid thing. I don't know
be more. Be more.

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Unknown: You know, you came up
in San Francisco, and there's

579
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something about the Bay Area.
Let me just list them. The

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Great, late great, Harvey Milk,
Diane Feinstein, Jerry Brown,

581
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the former governor, yourself,
Speaker Pelosi, gavid Newsome,

582
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the current governor, and, of
course, Vice President Harris.

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What are they putting in the
water in the Bay Area that

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creates so many powerful people?

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Don't forget Barbara Boxer,
don't we're so proud of her as

586
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well.

587
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Adam Curry: Kamala is from she's
from Oakland, not not San

588
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Francisco. Or do you consider
that to be the San Francisco?

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The same water as the San
Francisco have the same water as

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Oakland?

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, he

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Unknown: go. One of the things
that is in the water is that

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we're an intellectual resource
in almost every issue you can

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name. It's a hotbed of activity
where they're talking about

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00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,100
saving the planet, saving our
rights, fairness in every way,

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00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:34,040
in our economy. But we also
respect each other. We all are

597
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,340
not all in the same place on the
spectrum. We don't always agree,

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but we respect each other, and
we do not take down anybody. So

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00:34:42,220 --> 00:34:44,860
we're always building strength.
We

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Adam Curry: respect each other.
Everybody respect she says no,

601
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but I'm saying speak. Here's the
second part, Kamala,

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Unknown: you have to give her.
She is politically astute. She

603
00:34:54,340 --> 00:34:59,920
won a tough District Attorney
race. She won a tough attorney.

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General race, and then, of
course, it got easier for the

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speaker, excuse me, the Senate
race, and now running for

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President of the United States.
So women, what

607
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:10,680
Adam Curry: does that mean?
Easier for the Senate race. Why

608
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,560
was it easier for Did you just
step into it? I can't remember.

609
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:18,720
John C Dvorak: I believe she
stepped into it. Did someone

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die? Didn't I think Feinstein
died, and they just put her in

611
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temporarily, and then she ran
because, you know, she was the

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incumbent, which was the Obama
I'm guessing. I'm not. I don't

613
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know this for a fact, because I
don't remember that the sequence

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of events necessarily Well,

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Adam Curry: if you, if you
recall Obama became Senator when

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they took that star, Trek Deep
Space Nine, seven of nine lady

617
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and came up with the whole
scenario, my husband writes me

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whatever that was, yes, yeah,
all right, he's the rest

619
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Unknown: officially, something
about it personally. Well, you

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00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,240
know, personally, a person of
values and politically astute.

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We like to think that with that,
whether it's in the water or

622
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:13,200
it's in the air or it's just in
our tradition in the Bay Area,

623
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we're very proud of the
positions we take and the

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00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,720
friendships we develop, and the
respect we have for differences

625
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:21,620
of opinion. What

626
00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:24,620
Adam Curry: is she signaling
here? Is this a San Francisco

627
00:36:24,620 --> 00:36:27,680
like Reed Hoffman deal? Or what
is the I

628
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John C Dvorak: have some clips
that might explain some of it,

629
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because Newsom is going after
the homeless. Well,

630
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,260
Adam Curry: yeah, he's, he's
throwing them out. We don't he's

631
00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:38,600
throwing into the bay. We don't
even know where he's putting

632
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:38,720
him,

633
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,700
John C Dvorak: throwing him into
the base he's got, he's got a

634
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:50,320
ramp they he's looking for 2028
as is, as is two or three other,

635
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,820
or as are two or three other of
these Democrats, including

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00:36:54,820 --> 00:37:00,540
Whitmer for president. And he,
and I think Shapiro, is probably

637
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one of them. And so he's going
to try to clean up the state,

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00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:06,900
and he's got four years to do
it. So he's starting with the

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00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:09,540
homeless. Yeah, and I we can
play these clips when you're

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00:37:09,540 --> 00:37:10,860
done with your which, no,

641
00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:13,200
Adam Curry: no, no, let's Well,
the only other thing is, Kamala

642
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,700
Harris ran against Sanchez, so
it wasn't handed to her, but it

643
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,340
was a landslide 68 to 30
something,

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00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,260
John C Dvorak: yeah? Well,
that's because it's rigged. I

645
00:37:24,260 --> 00:37:27,080
hate to say that, yeah,
California elections are rig.

646
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,720
Yeah, let's do this. So
California, I've said this

647
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,540
before the states, that whether
you have rigged election, you

648
00:37:32,540 --> 00:37:34,880
got Washington State. Nobody
likes these people that are

649
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,060
running Washington state, but
they get in with land with big

650
00:37:38,060 --> 00:37:40,300
votes all the time, because it's
all mail in ballots. So it's

651
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very easy to corrupt. Everyone
just been studied to death.

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00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,320
Everybody knows mail in ballots
are no good. California also

653
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,940
relies on them to an not to an
extent. Washington is 100% so

654
00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:54,640
100% mail in ballots in
Washington State. So they

655
00:37:54,820 --> 00:37:58,180
they've captured Washington
State. Oregon is similar.

656
00:37:58,180 --> 00:38:01,920
California is similar. They did
capture it doesn't need to be

657
00:38:02,820 --> 00:38:05,700
that bad, like it is in
Washington. Minnesota is

658
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:09,900
captured. Uh, I've always felt
that Massachusetts, Illinois,

659
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:11,460
for sure. Okay, totally corrupt.
So

660
00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:13,920
Adam Curry: let's just go back
to Biden doing something

661
00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:19,140
unexpected that they may be
expecting. And maybe this is

662
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,220
she, I didn't see the whole
interview, so maybe she talked

663
00:38:22,220 --> 00:38:27,200
about Newsom. But if you've got
Kamala Harris all of a sudden

664
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being president, wouldn't that
be a moment for Newsom to pop in

665
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,780
and say, Hey, let me take it
over, baby.

666
00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:35,840
John C Dvorak: How's he gonna do
that? Just

667
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,180
Adam Curry: by saying exactly
that, this is a Democrat party.

668
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,840
You can vote when you're 13. You
can just step in say, Hey, let

669
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,740
me take it over, baby.

670
00:38:43,420 --> 00:38:46,720
John C Dvorak: I think the, I
think originally, when Obama

671
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,240
came up with the scheme to get
rid of Biden, we have to, I

672
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:54,220
assume that scenario is true,
and then Biden screwed him by

673
00:38:54,220 --> 00:38:58,120
announcing that camel is going
to be the candidate, right? And

674
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,040
people say the following this
analysis goes like this, well,

675
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,620
you can't bring in Newsome. You
can't bring in anybody, because

676
00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:07,260
you got a woman of color at the
top of the ticket, and she's the

677
00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:11,340
next one in line. You have to
give it to her. And so you have

678
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:15,120
to take that argument and say,
Well, how would Obama manage to

679
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,980
get around this, this situation?
Obama could do it. Obama could

680
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:25,280
ordain anybody and come out him
and Michelle could come out and

681
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,080
say, this is the way it should
be. Yes, I could. Doesn't

682
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,660
matter. It could be a black guy,
could be a white guy, could be

683
00:39:32,660 --> 00:39:35,300
any it doesn't matter if Obama's
listen,

684
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Adam Curry: if Kamala becomes
president, even for the next

685
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,700
what is it? The next four months
we had our black female

686
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:50,200
president that would be great,
and she, and you yourself, said

687
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,740
she's lazy, she doesn't want to
do anything. And then think

688
00:39:53,740 --> 00:39:57,880
about it. I was the first
female, not just female, but

689
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:03,840
black president. And she is rich
for the rest of her life, can go

690
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,320
off do her own thing, and then
she could even say, you know,

691
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,680
I've got two wars here. I've
got, I'm gonna take care of

692
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,120
stuff, by the way, no taxes on
tips. And here's, here's Newsome

693
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:21,140
to run. I know I'm going off
kilter here, but why not? It's

694
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John C Dvorak: premature for
Newsom, to be honest about it,

695
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,660
because he still has the
California city. This is the why

696
00:40:26,660 --> 00:40:29,780
he's starting to clean up the
place, because it's hanging over

697
00:40:29,780 --> 00:40:33,380
his head that it's like the
sword of Damocles. The homeless

698
00:40:33,380 --> 00:40:36,620
situation in California is out
of control, yeah, and there's no

699
00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:39,500
way you can run he but four
years from now, when it's all

700
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:43,900
cleaned up and he takes credit
for it. It's a different story.

701
00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:47,620
So I so I don't think you can
slip Newsom in at this point.

702
00:40:47,620 --> 00:40:51,160
You can slip somebody else in,
but no, they have nothing.

703
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,840
They're stuck with this woman.
Okay,

704
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,320
Adam Curry: all right. Well,
let's, let's hear your Newsome

705
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:56,860
clips.

706
00:40:57,220 --> 00:40:58,720
John C Dvorak: Well, here's
Newsome going after the

707
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:01,020
homeless, and it's become
somewhat controversial. Here's

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00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:01,740
clip one.

709
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:04,620
Unknown: Two weeks ago,
California Governor Gavin Newsom

710
00:41:04,620 --> 00:41:07,800
put out an executive order. He
urged cities and counties in the

711
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,220
state to remove homeless
encampments. This past week, he

712
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:13,740
upped the pressure, saying he
would take state funding away

713
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:17,280
from counties that didn't show,
quote, demonstrable results.

714
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:20,100
It's a move that puts the
Democratic governor closer to

715
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:22,880
conservatives on this issue than
to the progressives in his own

716
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,480
party to break down the details
and politics of this. I'm joined

717
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,660
by reporter Anna Scott in Los
Angeles. She covers housing and

718
00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:32,360
homelessness with the California
newsroom, which is a

719
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,020
collaboration of NPR stations in
the state. Hey, Anna, hey, hey,

720
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,040
the governor said that he would
cut counties off from state

721
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,580
funding if they didn't
cooperate. Is this a real

722
00:41:42,580 --> 00:41:45,100
threat? Did he give any
specifics on this? Oh, my

723
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:50,980
Adam Curry: God, this is NPR,
isn't it? How did they learn to

724
00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:52,000
talk like this?

725
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:54,760
Unknown: Yeah, I think it's a
real threat. Not a lot of

726
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,820
specifics yet, but the state
provides a lot of funding to

727
00:41:57,820 --> 00:42:00,480
cities and counties for all
sorts of different efforts to

728
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,660
fight homelessness. The Newsome
administration has spent around

729
00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:08,460
$24 billion in fact, on this for
things like buying commercial

730
00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:11,580
buildings to turn into housing
or funding new shelter beds, to

731
00:42:11,580 --> 00:42:16,380
name just two things of many. He
didn't threaten to cut any

732
00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:20,240
particular funding stream yet
from any specific place, but his

733
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,540
office told me he's ready to
redirect money away from any

734
00:42:23,540 --> 00:42:27,500
county that's not meeting
milestones set by the state. And

735
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:30,620
he did call out Los Angeles
County specifically, and said

736
00:42:30,620 --> 00:42:33,800
leaders here need to act with
more urgency on this issue.

737
00:42:34,340 --> 00:42:35,060
Question.

738
00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:39,740
Adam Curry: What county does is
that favela spot you've got,

739
00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:41,740
you've got picked out.

740
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,220
John C Dvorak: Well, if San
Francisco is San Francisco

741
00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:47,680
County, so just south of that, I
believe that would be in San

742
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,180
Mateo County. So he

743
00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:51,460
Adam Curry: could say, You know
what, no money for you. Here's a

744
00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:52,060
favela.

745
00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:57,040
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
think he's, I don't think he's

746
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,160
got the favela mentality yet.
Yet,

747
00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:03,240
Adam Curry: you need to talk to
your governor. You've got some

748
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:04,140
good ideas.

749
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,080
John C Dvorak: He's the idea of
a favela there in South San

750
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,580
Francisco is probably the best
spot to do, to do the

751
00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:18,060
experiment. And, of course, the
Hollywood sign in Los Angeles

752
00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:20,480
and the Hollywood sign in Los
Angeles, that whole area is

753
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:26,120
right. Favela ready. It's favela
ready. That now there's this

754
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,460
show title. Write that one down.
I will favela ready. Yeah, it's

755
00:43:31,460 --> 00:43:34,400
favela ready. But there's plenty
of places in LA that are favela

756
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,360
ready, yeah.

757
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,140
Unknown: All right. Cartoon, um.

758
00:43:39,140 --> 00:43:42,400
So Anna, what exactly is
Governor Newsom wanting counties

759
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,340
to do that they're not already
doing well, it's

760
00:43:45,340 --> 00:43:48,280
not completely clear, other than
get rid of more encampments. But

761
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,400
the problem is, people need
places to go, and we're short on

762
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,800
affordable housing. We're short
on shelter beds here in LA

763
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,240
County. Now, LA has made a lot
of progress in recent years on

764
00:43:58,420 --> 00:44:02,100
adding beds and affordable
housing units. But the problem

765
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:06,660
is, in spite of that progress,
it's really not visible yet to

766
00:44:06,660 --> 00:44:08,760
most people who are walking
around and looking at this

767
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,460
terrible crisis on the streets.
So

768
00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:14,040
then, in that case, what would
make a visible difference here?

769
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,980
Just more housing for everyone?
Yes,

770
00:44:16,980 --> 00:44:19,920
more housing. That's the simple
answer, because that's what is

771
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,000
at the root of the crisis a
shortage of cheap places to live

772
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,460
that has built up over decades.

773
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,860
John C Dvorak: I'm waiting this
is not true. The drug crisis is

774
00:44:30,860 --> 00:44:33,440
part of the problem. They don't
mention that. It's got nothing

775
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,540
to do with housing. There's
plenty of people, and it's

776
00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:39,920
documented to an extreme of guys
who said, go into here. This is

777
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,180
a place for you to stay. I'd
rather be on the street. Yes,

778
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,200
correct. And this happens
constantly. You, your friend

779
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,000
down in Texas must run into
this.

780
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,880
Adam Curry: Well, that that's,
that's where he finds people.

781
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,020
They're on the because drug
addicts the the main reason,

782
00:44:56,020 --> 00:44:59,020
according to Alan Graham, the
reason from community, first

783
00:44:59,020 --> 00:45:02,220
village, the main reason. Reason
people become homeless is

784
00:45:02,220 --> 00:45:07,500
catastrophic, catastrophic loss
of family or community. And when

785
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:11,280
you are on the streets, you
usually fall into drugs, or

786
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,680
you've already you're already
into, you're already in some

787
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,220
kind of drug issue. And that's
why they all congregate, because

788
00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:21,440
then you have a community of
druggies and and they look out

789
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,860
for each other. You know, it's,
it's a whole thing. So that's

790
00:45:24,860 --> 00:45:28,880
that is now your new community.
So yes, and by the way, Newsome

791
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,000
does have a plan, but I'm, I'm
interested in your final clip on

792
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,880
this first unless you have
something else.

793
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,040
John C Dvorak: No, I have
another clip.

794
00:45:37,580 --> 00:45:40,720
Unknown: Now, like I said,
California, Los Angeles in

795
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:44,680
particular, are making progress
on that, but it's a really big

796
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,700
gap to close. And on top of
that, the crisis is at such a

797
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:52,060
magnitude that you also have to
help all the people who are

798
00:45:52,060 --> 00:45:55,600
already on the streets get into
the housing and stay there, and

799
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,300
everybody who's out there
probably needs a different

800
00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:03,060
intervention. So it becomes very
hard to fix. Now the federal,

801
00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:05,820
state and local governments all
share responsibility for

802
00:46:05,820 --> 00:46:08,760
different pieces of these fixes,
but of course, they can always

803
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,080
point fingers at each other,

804
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,680
right? And Anna just quickly.
Are there politics at play

805
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,680
behind news one's most recent
statements here? Oh,

806
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,480
yes, of course, he's a
politician. I spoke with a long

807
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,420
time democratic political
consultant about this, Newsom

808
00:46:23,420 --> 00:46:25,940
has been talked about as a
possible future presidential

809
00:46:25,940 --> 00:46:29,060
candidate, but the homelessness
crisis in California is a huge

810
00:46:29,060 --> 00:46:33,320
weakness for him, and so it
makes sense that he's distancing

811
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,460
himself from the responsibility
a bit and saying publicly to

812
00:46:37,460 --> 00:46:39,680
local officials, look, the
state's giving you everything

813
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,060
you need, Money, support. Now
you have to act. I've done all I

814
00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:46,720
can, but really, there's not a
quick fix to this.

815
00:46:47,740 --> 00:46:49,720
Adam Curry: Well, I'm
disappointed now because I saw

816
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,940
your clips come in. People
should know John and I don't

817
00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:56,200
talk in between shows. We don't
discuss what we're gonna do. He

818
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,320
sends his clips. I don't listen
to them. I look at the titles

819
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:02,280
just to see what he has covered.
So I see a three parter on

820
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,600
Newsom. I didn't clip in my
Newsome stuff because he has

821
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,140
proposed the solution. And I'm
very disappointed. Surprisingly,

822
00:47:10,140 --> 00:47:16,320
not in NPR, they didn't mention
it. It is the cares court. Have

823
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,160
you heard of this?

824
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,220
Unknown: Maybe governor.

825
00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:23,060
Adam Curry: I have the PDF. I
have the one pager PDF here

826
00:47:23,060 --> 00:47:27,440
Governor Newsom's new plan to
get Californians in crisis off

827
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,520
the streets and into housing.
Treatment and care. It is the

828
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,140
community assistance, recovery
and empowerment, court care

829
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,100
court a new framework to get
people with mental health and

830
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:45,700
substance use disorders, the
support and care they need. So

831
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:50,680
what happens is they take you to
court. I'm sure there's a reason

832
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:56,080
why it's called court, and then
because it's a court, yes, and

833
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,320
then they so care. Court
connects, connect, connects.

834
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,140
This is great care. Court
connects a person struggling

835
00:48:04,140 --> 00:48:07,800
with untreated mental illness
and often also substance use

836
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:14,340
challenges with a court ordered
care plan for up to 24 months.

837
00:48:14,580 --> 00:48:18,360
So you have it's jail for
druggies. Each plan is managed

838
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,160
by a care team in the community,
and can include clinically

839
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:28,160
prescribed individual
interventions, i e r drugs with

840
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:33,020
special several support
services, medication and a

841
00:48:33,020 --> 00:48:37,460
housing plan. The client
centered approach of these

842
00:48:37,460 --> 00:48:43,780
convicts also includes a public
defender and supporter. What is

843
00:48:43,780 --> 00:48:48,820
support like both pom poms, yay,
go. You to help, exactly to help

844
00:48:48,820 --> 00:48:52,120
make self directed care
decisions, in addition to their

845
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:58,060
full clinical team. So he's
going to rouse them throw and by

846
00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:02,160
the way, this is a $14 billion
multi year investment that will

847
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:07,080
also provide 55,000 new housing
units and treatment slots.

848
00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:10,680
John C Dvorak: Well, 55,000 is
not enough, but they have slots.

849
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,200
Adam Curry: They just put you in
the wall in a slot, in the wall

850
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:18,000
slots and a more than 10 billion
annual investment in community

851
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,760
behavioral health services.
Dude, Bonanza, the governor's

852
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,560
comprehensive approach combines
a focus on bridge housing under

853
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,240
the bridge, I guess, to quickly
rehouse unsheltered individuals

854
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:36,500
with behavioral health issues,
all while more new units come

855
00:49:36,500 --> 00:49:41,620
online, while also transforming
medical to provide more

856
00:49:41,620 --> 00:49:45,580
behavioral health services to
people struggling the most. So

857
00:49:45,580 --> 00:49:49,480
he's created a court. You get
rousted, you go to court. You're

858
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:55,060
a druggie. You got problems.
Take our meds. Sleep here. Or

859
00:49:55,060 --> 00:49:59,800
else, or else. Yes, I'm
surprised NPR didn't catch on

860
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,360
to. That That's odd. I am too
now that you mentioned it

861
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,020
because it he has a solution.
It's a, it's a, kind of a weird

862
00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:07,500
one.

863
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,860
John C Dvorak: It was, it's a
totalitarian solution. There you

864
00:50:10,860 --> 00:50:16,140
go. Yes, totally, every
definition, yes, yeah. You go

865
00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:18,600
on. And it's done by edict. If
you haven't noticed, they

866
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,920
mentioned that is all executive
orders. So there's no

867
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,660
legislature involved, or anybody
any input whatsoever. This is

868
00:50:26,660 --> 00:50:31,520
just a totalitarian mechanism
that he put in place. And the

869
00:50:31,580 --> 00:50:35,300
key to it is this, this phony
baloney kangaroo court, yes,

870
00:50:35,780 --> 00:50:40,340
which is exactly what it is.
Yep. There you go. Yeah, they're

871
00:50:40,340 --> 00:50:41,260
good for him well,

872
00:50:41,260 --> 00:50:43,480
Adam Curry: and I think it's a
model for all of America. Well,

873
00:50:44,020 --> 00:50:45,640
John C Dvorak: that's what
basically, that's the point he's

874
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,640
going to try to make when he
runs for president. The problem

875
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:54,040
is he still has that. He still
is, got that greasy, kind of

876
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,740
slick and he's with that
gravelly voice. He's got some

877
00:50:56,740 --> 00:51:00,480
issues with his presentations,
especially when you compare him

878
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,640
to the Jewish Obama, the
Shapiro. Shapiro. Shapiro sounds

879
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,640
just like Obama. He's got the
cadence, he's got the better

880
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,300
speeches. He's much more dynamic
speaker than Newsom. Newsom is

881
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:14,460
not very good compared.

882
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,420
Adam Curry: Doesn't matter, you
know, doesn't matter people just

883
00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:18,600
well,

884
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,100
John C Dvorak: it doesn't
matter, because they're going to

885
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:22,460
just choose somebody that, if
you're going to say that, but

886
00:51:22,460 --> 00:51:24,200
they're going to choose
somebody, they're going to

887
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,220
choose Shapiro.

888
00:51:26,060 --> 00:51:27,920
Adam Curry: I don't think
America is ready for a Jew

889
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,640
president.

890
00:51:30,260 --> 00:51:34,220
Unknown: I really don't think
about

891
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,840
John C Dvorak: it. I don't think
that. I don't really believe

892
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,160
that. I don't think any, I mean,
there's probably a few people

893
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,240
that wouldn't appreciate it, but
the Nazis in general, nobody

894
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:50,020
cares that much about especially
a guy like that guy, he's pretty

895
00:51:50,020 --> 00:51:52,900
neutral coming out. He's talking
about,

896
00:51:53,260 --> 00:51:56,440
Adam Curry: he's a screamer. He
goes all off the off the rail.

897
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:05,520
He's like, Dean scream. Almost
no, yes, yes. Oh man, I thought

898
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,560
I had a dean scream clip of him.
Yes, he was going off the rails.

899
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,120
I know I didn't clip it crap.
Yeah, because it didn't matter,

900
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,420
because he's no longer in the
running. Oh yeah, his voice is

901
00:52:18,420 --> 00:52:21,620
all skipping and stuff. Yeah,

902
00:52:22,460 --> 00:52:23,600
Unknown: maybe I could find it

903
00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:28,700
Adam Curry: somehow. No, I don't
think he's well,

904
00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:30,320
John C Dvorak: the other thing
that you notice on these

905
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,800
networks that say that Trump is,
whatever that word was we used

906
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,160
earlier, freaked out about
something or other, which he's

907
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,620
not. Oh, here he's saying. Here

908
00:52:39,620 --> 00:52:40,840
Adam Curry: it is, John. Listen
to this

909
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,940
Unknown: an America where, no
matter what you look like, where

910
00:52:45,940 --> 00:52:50,380
you come from, who you love or
who you pray to, that this will

911
00:52:50,380 --> 00:52:55,840
be a place for you. This is the
beginning of it. And

912
00:52:56,980 --> 00:52:58,240
are you ready to look the

913
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:02,580
next President of the United
States in the eye and say,

914
00:53:02,580 --> 00:53:04,260
Hello, Madam

915
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,620
President. Are you ready? Well,

916
00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:12,540
John C Dvorak: that's a good
example. I have to say, I'll

917
00:53:12,540 --> 00:53:17,640
give you points for that, okay?
Because that's not his nuts. All

918
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,620
right. So the other thing is,
they're, they're, they're

919
00:53:21,620 --> 00:53:25,160
condemning Trump for not doing
enough rallies. And, oh,

920
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,800
Adam Curry: really, not enough
rallies. I thought he was doing

921
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,720
all kinds of rallies. Well, they

922
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,180
John C Dvorak: claim he's not
doing as many as he could. And

923
00:53:32,180 --> 00:53:35,660
of course, this is just a
kibbutzinger he has. He said in

924
00:53:35,660 --> 00:53:38,240
his press conference, he gave an
hour press conference, for some

925
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:42,280
reason, reasonably good amount
of time. Since nobody else is

926
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,700
doing them, yeah? And he says,
Look, I'm not going to do a lot

927
00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:48,880
of work until we this, until the
convention is over, right? And I

928
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,580
think it's smart in that regard,
because the convention will

929
00:53:51,580 --> 00:53:54,280
change the dynamics of
everything. He has to see what

930
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,000
happens.

931
00:53:55,060 --> 00:53:57,220
Adam Curry: Well, he's throwing
out there this, I want three

932
00:53:57,220 --> 00:54:02,340
debates. And camel is not, not
not biting like one debate. I

933
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,080
actually have a clip here. Vice
President

934
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,420
Unknown: Kamala Harris and
former President Donald Trump

935
00:54:06,420 --> 00:54:09,780
take their campaigns to Western
states as they also prepare to

936
00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:13,080
meet face to face in their first
presidential candidates.

937
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:22,280
Debate called for three debates.
I think it's

938
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,980
very important that we have
them. I hope she agrees to them.

939
00:54:24,980 --> 00:54:29,300
September 4, September 10,
September 25 Harris

940
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:32,420
and her running mate, Minnesota
Governor Tim Walz, after stops

941
00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:36,740
in Michigan and Wisconsin are in
Arizona Friday, a key stop in a

942
00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:40,360
multi day battleground state
Blitz, both sides are heavily

943
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,120
courting the Latino vote in the
final three months of the

944
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,640
campaign, Harris, on Friday,
picked up the first ever

945
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,520
presidential endorsement of the
oldest Latino civil rights

946
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,940
organization in the US, the
League of United Latin American

947
00:54:51,940 --> 00:54:55,420
Citizens, is expected to join
Harris for a rally this weekend

948
00:54:55,420 --> 00:54:59,380
in Nevada. Trump traveled to
Montana for a fundraiser and to

949
00:54:59,380 --> 00:55:02,280
campaign for. A Senate
candidate. He's insisted he has

950
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,460
not adjusted his campaign since
Harris became the Democratic

951
00:55:05,460 --> 00:55:06,000
nominee.

952
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:10,500
I haven't recalibrated strategy
at all. It's the same policies,

953
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,000
open borders, weak on crime.
She's, I think she's worse than

954
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:15,420
Biden.

955
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,900
While Harris has surged in
recent polls, the Trump campaign

956
00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:22,460
has dismissed it as a honeymoon
moment, both the Trump Vance

957
00:55:22,460 --> 00:55:25,220
ticket and the Harris wall
ticket are ramping up

958
00:55:25,220 --> 00:55:28,640
appearances in the handful of
battleground states, building

959
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,000
momentum for a high stakes
debate in September that could

960
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,840
be a make or break moment for
either campaign. Well,

961
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,060
Adam Curry: she's only planning
on doing one, from what I can

962
00:55:38,060 --> 00:55:43,000
tell, she has not responded, but
we'll see about that. Bob, my

963
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,740
team is working on an interview.
Yeah, you're right. Trump is

964
00:55:47,740 --> 00:55:51,280
probably just sitting back like
crazy. Joe could come out jacked

965
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,360
up. Joe could return, you know,
Jill now doing the injections

966
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,420
herself. She doesn't trust
anybody. Maybe Hunter. Hey, Dad,

967
00:55:58,420 --> 00:55:58,480
I

968
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,660
John C Dvorak: got some good
stuff, and he knows how to do

969
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:01,800
it. You know,

970
00:56:02,340 --> 00:56:05,580
Adam Curry: did I read somewhere
that that wacky woman from the

971
00:56:05,580 --> 00:56:09,660
Secret Service who resigned,
that she had, like, a partial

972
00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:14,220
DNA hit on the coke in the White
House, and she obfuscated it.

973
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,940
John C Dvorak: I read she wanted
the evidence destroyed. Well,

974
00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:24,260
clearly, clearly, yes, this,
this is, I Yes, disgusted. What

975
00:56:24,260 --> 00:56:28,040
you just said, yeah, that they
had a partial DNA hit, and she

976
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,340
wanted the evidence destroyed,
and they wouldn't do it because

977
00:56:31,340 --> 00:56:35,900
it was violation of some process
and never got destroyed. But we

978
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:38,480
that's what she was angling for.
But we don't know what the part,

979
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,540
who, the part they ended the
investigation. Yeah, they could

980
00:56:43,540 --> 00:56:46,000
do that. So that's what she did.
So meanwhile,

981
00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:48,880
Adam Curry: as if it never
happened, you know, there was an

982
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,660
assassination attempt, and, man,
if you look at Instagram, I I

983
00:56:52,660 --> 00:56:55,780
looked at my daughter's on
Instagram. That's the only way I

984
00:56:55,780 --> 00:56:58,300
can keep up, keep up with what
she's doing. She doesn't tell me

985
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:00,720
everything. So I got to go look.
What are you doing? She's going

986
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:07,380
into the jungle again. She's
doing another reality show. I

987
00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:11,880
think it's like girls in the
jungle. So it's all these kind

988
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,340
of cute girls, and they throw
them in the jungle.

989
00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:18,360
John C Dvorak: Oh god, it's like
Naked and Afraid. Yeah, well,

990
00:57:20,340 --> 00:57:26,420
Adam Curry: and so I'm I'm
scrolling around, and I see

991
00:57:26,420 --> 00:57:30,200
people posting things like it
was shrapnel. He didn't get SAS.

992
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,900
There was no assassination
attempt. There was just some

993
00:57:32,900 --> 00:57:37,820
shrapnel from what exactly he's

994
00:57:37,820 --> 00:57:40,540
John C Dvorak: lying I mean that
if you ever watch the clip of

995
00:57:40,540 --> 00:57:43,840
him getting shot the
teleprompter, which is where

996
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,640
they say the shrapnel came from,
was intact. The teleprompter was

997
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:49,900
not hit. I'm just,

998
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,440
Adam Curry: I'm just saying
people, people have so it's as

999
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,760
if it never happened. I mean, it
was, it was an amazing moment in

1000
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,380
in American political history.
It was like, we're just back to

1001
00:58:01,380 --> 00:58:04,920
calling him needle dick and
anything else. It just no good

1002
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:10,500
this guy crazy, weird, weird
Vance, weird Trump blah, as if

1003
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:15,600
it never no one is disturbed by
it. And I have a couple of clips

1004
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,500
here. This is so now we have new
body cam footage, which really

1005
00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:23,600
shows us nothing but the Secret
Service that

1006
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,800
John C Dvorak: shows body cam
footage,

1007
00:58:25,580 --> 00:58:26,180
Unknown: told them

1008
00:58:26,180 --> 00:58:27,380
they need to post the guy.

1009
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:29,840
I told him that

1010
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:33,380
the Secret Service, I told him
that Tuesday,

1011
00:58:34,700 --> 00:58:44,140
I told him to post guys over
here. What? No, we're inside. I

1012
00:58:44,140 --> 00:58:45,940
told them to post guys over
here. I

1013
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:50,080
wasn't even concerned about it,
because I thought someone was on

1014
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,160
the roof. The guy walking back.
I

1015
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,080
talked to the Secret Service
guys. They're like, yeah, no

1016
00:58:53,140 --> 00:58:56,500
problem. We're gonna post guys
over here. So to put it into

1017
00:58:56,500 --> 00:58:58,720
context, Ryan, what we're
listening there is this local

1018
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,800
law enforcement officer, again,
just approximately 10 minutes

1019
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,560
after somebody fired or met
Thomas Matthew crooks fired

1020
00:59:04,620 --> 00:59:08,400
eight rounds at Donald Trump,
saying, Look, I told the Secret

1021
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,740
Service we needed people back
here, because he's standing

1022
00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:14,340
behind the building or the
buildings where the shots were

1023
00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:18,360
fired from. Then he says, I told
the Secret Service that on

1024
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,400
Tuesday, presumably there was a
site walk through. Obviously,

1025
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,400
the shooting happened on a
Saturday, July 13, so that was

1026
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,980
at least several days
beforehand. So

1027
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:30,260
Adam Curry: there's, you know, a
new analysis, okay, but

1028
00:59:30,380 --> 00:59:33,020
everything is Secret Service.
Secret Service. I just want to

1029
00:59:33,020 --> 00:59:38,060
revisit briefly the theory that
we've discussed. This was a very

1030
00:59:38,060 --> 00:59:42,220
typical FBI six week cycle.
We've been on this for over a

1031
00:59:42,220 --> 00:59:45,760
decade, and it comes and goes.
But when it's on the six week

1032
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:52,960
cycle, the FBI some, typically,
some poor, weak minded brother

1033
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,560
is seeing an olive bar online,
and they they sigh up and for a

1034
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,560
couple of months, Hey, man, you
should go blow something up.

1035
00:59:59,740 --> 01:00:03,540
And. And the guy goes out there,
just like crooks had a phony

1036
01:00:03,540 --> 01:00:06,840
baloney detonator with bombs. We
don't even know if the bombs

1037
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,180
actually worked, because we've
heard nothing more about them.

1038
01:00:09,180 --> 01:00:12,540
That's when the van was whisked
away, or was it in his car? We

1039
01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:18,180
don't know. There's some
circumstantial evidence of FBI

1040
01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:22,100
cell phones. And, you know, near
the FBI, whatever it is, a lot

1041
01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:27,260
of FBI stuff, and it's a very
typical FBI setup. It's like,

1042
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,840
make it look like someone's
going to try and kill the

1043
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:35,480
president with bombs. We even
had the mainstream almost as if

1044
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,840
they were, as if someone
triggered it and said the wrong

1045
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,160
thing, or they were ready for
it. Oh, Trump falls down, afraid

1046
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,240
of loud noises and but then the
kid went rogue, and he brought a

1047
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,440
rifle and he took some shots.
So, lo and behold. So this is

1048
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,440
our six week cycle theory. We've
we've heard this from people who

1049
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,340
are in the know. Lo and behold.
I'm really from waters to the

1050
01:00:57,340 --> 01:01:03,300
pool boy, here we go. Tim pool
had an FB a former FBI agent on

1051
01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:07,440
his show, often called a
whistleblower. I don't know if

1052
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,860
he's a whistleblower, but he, he

1053
01:01:10,860 --> 01:01:13,320
John C Dvorak: everybody,
everybody's a whistleblower. No,

1054
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:13,800
I know

1055
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:15,540
Adam Curry: that when you tell
the truth, you're a

1056
01:01:15,540 --> 01:01:21,200
whistleblower. And he lays out
the six week cycle, exactly

1057
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,040
Unknown: when the FBI charts
their progress, they are looking

1058
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,260
for a thing that are called
stats. This is something that

1059
01:01:27,260 --> 01:01:29,840
all law enforcement, you know,
this is like quotas, if you

1060
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,300
will. And so we need to have
stats that say, I have X number

1061
01:01:32,300 --> 01:01:35,120
of cases in this field, and I
have X number of arrests in this

1062
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,580
type of category. We're going
after ms 13. We're going after

1063
01:01:37,580 --> 01:01:39,740
organized crime, blah, blah,
blah. We're doing these counter

1064
01:01:39,740 --> 01:01:41,860
intelligence investigations.
They have a thing that's called

1065
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,860
a disruption, which means the
plot basically got foiled, and

1066
01:01:44,860 --> 01:01:47,200
they have a thing that's called
a dismantlement, which means

1067
01:01:47,260 --> 01:01:50,200
that this network was taken
apart. And you get more points

1068
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,900
for a dismantlement than you do
for a disruption, if my memory

1069
01:01:52,900 --> 01:01:55,180
serves. It may be backwards, but
I think it's that. So the thing

1070
01:01:55,180 --> 01:01:58,000
is, is these guys are literally
going for gold stars on a board.

1071
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,900
And you think, Okay, well, would
they, you know, sacrifice public

1072
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:03,180
safety to do this. If they
thought they can get away with

1073
01:02:03,180 --> 01:02:06,240
it safely, they will. And the
second thing is the oldest

1074
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,420
reason that's ever existed, it's
greed, the Senior Executive

1075
01:02:09,420 --> 01:02:11,700
Service in all federal
governments, but definitely in

1076
01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:14,580
the FBI that I was able to
experience, they get paid a five

1077
01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:18,780
figure bonus. It's like between
30 and 50, maybe $60,000 if they

1078
01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:22,460
hit all their metrics. So they
are incentivized to get arrests

1079
01:02:22,460 --> 01:02:25,340
in certain categories. They're
incentivized to do these sort of

1080
01:02:25,340 --> 01:02:25,580
things.

1081
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,720
Adam Curry: Okay, sounds pretty
much like the six week cycle. We

1082
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,020
always thought it was for the
budget, so they can justify the

1083
01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:35,780
budget. Now it turns out, and
I'm gonna take this guy at his

1084
01:02:35,780 --> 01:02:41,020
word, that it's an individual
star collection thing. If you

1085
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:45,280
get more money, if you can
disrupt something. And then

1086
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:50,200
remember, we had that kind of
rogue Iran thing. Oh, Iran. The

1087
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:55,420
Iranian wanted to take him out.
Remember that? Yeah. Well,

1088
01:02:55,420 --> 01:02:57,040
listen to this part, Vice
President

1089
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,980
Unknown: Kamala Harris and
former sorry, I'm

1090
01:02:59,980 --> 01:03:01,860
Adam Curry: so bad today. Here
we go. The FBI

1091
01:03:01,860 --> 01:03:05,160
Unknown: went so hard on January
6 that they overdid the number

1092
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,920
of hours that they're allowed to
assign to domestic terrorism,

1093
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:10,260
because they have to spread
themselves to international

1094
01:03:10,260 --> 01:03:12,540
terrorism and domestic
terrorism. They massively

1095
01:03:12,540 --> 01:03:16,020
overdid it for dt, which is the
abbreviation. They did it so

1096
01:03:16,020 --> 01:03:19,020
badly that they sent out section
chiefs from headquarters to all

1097
01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:21,380
the field offices regionally,
and said, Listen, we need you to

1098
01:03:21,380 --> 01:03:24,140
go through all of your domestic
terrorism cases and find

1099
01:03:24,140 --> 01:03:26,840
connections to international
terrorism so we can recategorize

1100
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,540
your hours. Imagine like an
attorney, Bill's hours. The FBI

1101
01:03:29,540 --> 01:03:32,060
assigns the work of an agent
against certain types of

1102
01:03:32,060 --> 01:03:34,940
categories of cases. So they had
too many, what are called 266,

1103
01:03:35,540 --> 01:03:38,000
cases. Those are the domestic
terror they needed more. 415,

1104
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,320
cases. And in order to do that,
they were like, Hey, did you

1105
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,780
find a dude who is a white
supremacist? But he was in a

1106
01:03:43,780 --> 01:03:46,120
chat room somewhere that later
on, an al Qaeda guy went into

1107
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,060
because we can tie them together
and make this a 415 instead of a

1108
01:03:49,060 --> 01:03:51,520
266 it's the dumbest thing
possible. But when you

1109
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,280
understand, we're talking about
bureaucracy here, here's the

1110
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,220
scariest part for me. This has
been going on for 20 years.

1111
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:57,700
Yeah.

1112
01:03:59,260 --> 01:04:01,980
Adam Curry: So that takes us
right back to this, the

1113
01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:05,340
Unknown: FBI arresting a
Pakistani national in connection

1114
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,400
with an alleged plot to
assassinate former President

1115
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,240
Donald Trump.

1116
01:04:09,540 --> 01:04:12,720
Adam Curry: There you go. They
went. They wanted a 415 so they

1117
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,520
just throw that in. Good to go.

1118
01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:17,880
Unknown: I completely believe
this,

1119
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:21,740
John C Dvorak: but I think we
both do. I think this has been

1120
01:04:21,740 --> 01:04:26,360
believed by us in one form or
another. What we did, the

1121
01:04:26,420 --> 01:04:29,960
missing information is the
bonus, yes, now we know which is

1122
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,080
more impetus than just the
budget. It's even better. It's

1123
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,080
even better because you get, you
get personal benefits. You don't

1124
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:40,700
just, oh, I'm doing it for the
good of the agency. Yeah. So,

1125
01:04:40,700 --> 01:04:43,660
yeah. So it makes it even more.
It makes even more sense if you

1126
01:04:43,660 --> 01:04:44,440
bring that yes,

1127
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,540
Adam Curry: yes, exactly,

1128
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,780
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah, the
pack is standing, yeah, it's a

1129
01:04:49,780 --> 01:04:50,980
good one.

1130
01:04:51,940 --> 01:04:53,620
Unknown: Sure

1131
01:04:54,340 --> 01:04:56,920
John C Dvorak: everybody's all
in on this, yeah.

1132
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,920
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, everyone
is all yelling about crowd size.

1133
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:05,160
Is an AI and capitalist. She's,
she's hiring people $250 to sit

1134
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,680
in the crowd. Yeah, duh. Dex

1135
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,780
John C Dvorak: is $15 an hour.
Oh,

1136
01:05:11,340 --> 01:05:13,140
Adam Curry: yeah. That's all.
That's whether that

1137
01:05:13,140 --> 01:05:15,240
John C Dvorak: said. This
another thing that's all you

1138
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,380
read, probably true. That's

1139
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,620
Adam Curry: all you read on X,
news, social. It's all about

1140
01:05:19,620 --> 01:05:25,160
that. It's boring. Here's Elon
Musk. He keeps because I follow

1141
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:30,140
him, he keeps posting X is the
number one news app, okay, yeah.

1142
01:05:30,140 --> 01:05:33,260
John C Dvorak: He's been pushing
that, that idea, yeah. Now

1143
01:05:33,260 --> 01:05:39,860
here's a while we're on this FBI
stuff, there is a couple of kind

1144
01:05:39,860 --> 01:05:41,740
of parallel weirdness is going
on.

1145
01:05:41,740 --> 01:05:44,320
Adam Curry: We got to stop using
the word weird. We have to stop

1146
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:45,100
that we're using

1147
01:05:45,460 --> 01:05:50,080
John C Dvorak: I told you, I
called you out. I know. I'm glad

1148
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:54,160
you did, but you you just Yeah,
I know it's bad, it's bad, it's

1149
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,040
bad. This is bad. It's one of
those bad we've been I don't

1150
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:57,760
like me. We've been

1151
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,840
Adam Curry: influenced by by Tim
waltz. How bad or we,

1152
01:06:04,020 --> 01:06:08,400
John C Dvorak: which going after
for some reason? Scott Ritter,

1153
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:09,240
yeah, the

1154
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:13,980
Adam Curry: FBI visited him, and
Tulsi Gabbard was she's on that,

1155
01:06:13,980 --> 01:06:16,680
that fly check her out list or
something.

1156
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,660
John C Dvorak: Well, she's irked
about it, yeah, I can imagine.

1157
01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:22,280
But what's interesting is that
two of them have both discussed

1158
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,760
this, uh, Scott Ritter
discussing it everywhere he can.

1159
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:30,200
But the best discussion comes
off of RT, which he works for.

1160
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:35,300
Ah, and I want to play this,
these two clips, and then play

1161
01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:38,900
Tulsi clips, okay, and then see
if you can find the commonality,

1162
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,400
the commonality between what
they both say,

1163
01:06:43,300 --> 01:06:47,140
Unknown: the FBI and the police
have raided the New York home of

1164
01:06:47,140 --> 01:06:50,320
former US Marine Corps
intelligence officer and current

1165
01:06:50,380 --> 01:06:55,060
RT contributor Scott Ritter. He
addressed his followers on

1166
01:06:55,060 --> 01:06:58,180
social media platforms,
excluding that the FBI has

1167
01:06:58,180 --> 01:07:02,280
concerns over his link with RT
and Russian media outlets, but

1168
01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:07,800
FBI has executed a search
warrant on my home. The search

1169
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:14,040
warrant was based upon what they
deemed to be probable cause that

1170
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,480
I am in violation of the foreign
agent registrations act. It

1171
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,400
worked for RT, of course, and
they executed a search warrant

1172
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,200
looking for electronic devices,
my computers, my cell phone,

1173
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,640
things of that nature. Based
upon their questions, it appears

1174
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,580
that they are primarily
concerned about my relationship

1175
01:07:34,580 --> 01:07:37,340
with RT and Sputnik Scott

1176
01:07:37,340 --> 01:07:40,360
himself was not detained in the
rate. Which is the latest in a

1177
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,200
string of actions targeting the
former UN weapons inspector.

1178
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,980
Back in June, the US State
Department seized his passport,

1179
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,100
taking him off a plane as he
traveled to attend the St

1180
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:54,220
Petersburg International
Economic Forum. It comes as the

1181
01:07:54,220 --> 01:07:57,520
threat of assassination has been
hanging over Mr. Ritter for

1182
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,960
quite some time after he was
added to a notorious Ukrainian

1183
01:08:01,020 --> 01:08:05,520
kill list for his views on the
conflict. Scott says that

1184
01:08:05,820 --> 01:08:09,360
alternative stance the US
government has effectively

1185
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:10,560
declared war on him.

1186
01:08:11,580 --> 01:08:14,640
Adam Curry: Okay, so far, just
sounds like harassment.

1187
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,820
John C Dvorak: Well, the fact
that they took him off of a

1188
01:08:17,820 --> 01:08:21,480
plane, oh, I didn't know that
part. I didn't know that part

1189
01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:23,900
either, and I didn't know
anything about the kill list. So

1190
01:08:23,900 --> 01:08:26,420
this is our tea is actually
giving us better reporting.

1191
01:08:26,420 --> 01:08:33,740
Yeah, shocker. Shocker. Here's
the second part of this.

1192
01:08:33,980 --> 01:08:37,280
Unknown: This is absurd in the
extreme. This, this raid on my

1193
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:41,680
home was designed to have a
chilling effect, to make me

1194
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,580
think twice about speaking out,
about writing, about doing

1195
01:08:45,580 --> 01:08:50,380
podcasts, and as I told the FBI,
and I'll tell you now, there

1196
01:08:50,380 --> 01:08:52,900
isn't a snowball's chance in
hell that I'll back down because

1197
01:08:52,900 --> 01:08:55,420
I'm doing nothing wrong today,
the United States government

1198
01:08:55,420 --> 01:08:59,380
declared war on me. They
declared war on my ability to

1199
01:08:59,380 --> 01:09:02,940
write, my ability to speak, my
ability to interact with the

1200
01:09:02,940 --> 01:09:05,760
American people and indeed, with
a broader international

1201
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:11,460
audience. So be it we're at war.
It's not a war I plan on losing.

1202
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,240
Scott Ritter, well, another RT
contributor, former Senate aide

1203
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,780
to Joe Biden, Tara Reid, has
repeatedly stated she's been

1204
01:09:18,780 --> 01:09:22,460
harassed by the FBI too, and
says there's an ongoing witch

1205
01:09:22,460 --> 01:09:25,460
hunt for Americans who hold a
different point of view. He

1206
01:09:25,460 --> 01:09:25,880
spoke

1207
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,720
out against the war in Iraq and
revealed that the government

1208
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,360
lie, the US government lied
about the weapons of mass

1209
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:37,040
destruction. He he spoke out.
George Galloway famously spoke

1210
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:41,620
out. And he was a whistleblower.
He has been a whistleblower. And

1211
01:09:41,620 --> 01:09:46,060
then, you know, he was put in
prison for charges that he was,

1212
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,560
you know, convicted of, and he
did his time, he served his

1213
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,820
sentence. So I don't think it's
related to that sentencing at

1214
01:09:54,820 --> 01:09:58,360
all. I think, again, it's just a
pattern of what you're seeing in

1215
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,380
the United States, which is.
Their surveillance state and

1216
01:10:01,380 --> 01:10:04,860
authoritative government that
you know, we have the illusion

1217
01:10:04,860 --> 01:10:08,460
of free speech. We have that
illusion of a right to travel,

1218
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:13,560
but in reality, it's only
allowed if we say what the you

1219
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,940
know, United States wants people
to say. Otherwise, you're at

1220
01:10:17,940 --> 01:10:22,040
risk. Many say that are
unfortunately, the intelligence

1221
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,480
Cabal has has really taken over
the United States government,

1222
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:29,480
and I think you have seen that
pretty clearly just in the

1223
01:10:29,480 --> 01:10:32,180
recent events around the 2024
election.

1224
01:10:32,780 --> 01:10:37,760
Adam Curry: Well, yes, no
surprise to us. As an aside,

1225
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,680
someone mentioned in the troll
room that we were on a weird

1226
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,520
kick previously, around Obama
time and I went to Bing, it.io

1227
01:10:46,780 --> 01:10:52,240
Holy crap. We would say the word
weird, eight, 910, times an

1228
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:58,660
episode. It's terrible. It
really is. It's bad. Okay, so,

1229
01:10:58,660 --> 01:11:01,860
yes, well, the intelligence
community runs the country. Duh.

1230
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:07,740
All right, yeah, hello. Gotcha.
Yes,

1231
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,560
John C Dvorak: they have not
contributed much to the show

1232
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,960
recently. It's really annoying.
Well,

1233
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,080
Adam Curry: where are those?
Aol.com addresses people. Come

1234
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,460
on. Step it up. So

1235
01:11:17,460 --> 01:11:21,920
John C Dvorak: we have Tulsi on
watch list. And here she's,

1236
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:26,000
she's off the deep end here, but
this interesting, the fact that

1237
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,480
it seems to me that she should
be happy that there's three air

1238
01:11:29,480 --> 01:11:33,320
marshals on every flight she
takes. You feel like a lot of

1239
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,180
safety around you. You know what
I mean. I hear

1240
01:11:35,180 --> 01:11:38,240
Unknown: you. So what exactly
did Tulsi Gabbard do? Oh,

1241
01:11:38,420 --> 01:11:39,740
Adam Curry: is this Frau
Ingraham?

1242
01:11:40,340 --> 01:11:45,940
John C Dvorak: It's, I'm sorry I
should have warned you, because,

1243
01:11:46,180 --> 01:11:49,600
because everything is traced
back to her Tulsi appearance on

1244
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:50,620
fraud show,

1245
01:11:52,540 --> 01:11:54,160
Adam Curry: frouse show, very
good, added

1246
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,340
Unknown: to the terror watch
list. It came the day after she

1247
01:11:57,340 --> 01:12:00,900
criticized the Biden
administration, right here on

1248
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:01,800
the angle, whatever.

1249
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,020
Adam Curry: I haven't watched
her in a while, but what this is

1250
01:12:04,020 --> 01:12:04,980
very nasty.

1251
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,780
John C Dvorak: It's no
different. It's always nice. You

1252
01:12:09,780 --> 01:12:12,180
know, I got this. This is an
aside. I've mentioned this on

1253
01:12:12,180 --> 01:12:15,780
the show once before. She used
to have a radio show. Yes, I

1254
01:12:15,780 --> 01:12:18,000
think she, maybe she still does
not know, I don't think so, but

1255
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,980
she had a radio, syndicated
radio show, and if I and it was

1256
01:12:21,980 --> 01:12:24,680
a later show wasn't like during
the day. It wasn't done drive

1257
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,100
time or anything. So I tune into
it every so often by accident,

1258
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:30,680
as I'm going through the
channels, when, if it was later

1259
01:12:31,220 --> 01:12:35,480
and I'd hear it, and I always
swore what it sounded like a

1260
01:12:35,480 --> 01:12:39,620
guy. She sounds like a male on
the radio. For some reason, she

1261
01:12:39,620 --> 01:12:42,940
just sounds like a like a hype,
you know, like a male 10 or not,

1262
01:12:42,940 --> 01:12:47,140
not a guy with a baritone voice,
but she sounds male ish, and I

1263
01:12:47,140 --> 01:12:48,820
was always stunned by that.

1264
01:12:49,780 --> 01:12:50,800
Adam Curry: Let's return.

1265
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,860
Unknown: See our foreign policy
decisions are being made by

1266
01:12:53,860 --> 01:12:57,580
unelected people in the military
industrial complex who are

1267
01:12:57,580 --> 01:13:00,840
profiting from us being in a
constant state of war and the

1268
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:05,220
national security state that has
more power to undermine our

1269
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,240
freedoms and liberties when we
are in a state of war. Kamala

1270
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,880
Harris does not have the
strength to stand up to the

1271
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,440
military industrial complex.

1272
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:14,700
Okay,

1273
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,700
that's wild. Joining me now
Tulsa. Gat reforming us. KYLE

1274
01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:19,620
SIMON, Fox News contributor,
Tulsi,

1275
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,180
now you serve this country in
uniform, even getting deployed

1276
01:13:23,180 --> 01:13:23,780
to Iraq.

1277
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,020
Thank you for going unlike Tim
Walz, and now you're being

1278
01:13:27,020 --> 01:13:31,880
surveilled. I mean, it's a form
of surveillance hassling and

1279
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:37,640
intrusion upon your freedom to
move by the government. What is

1280
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,600
this? I mean, I didn't believe
it really when I first heard

1281
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,180
about it, I said, Oh, that can't
be but how does this make you

1282
01:13:43,180 --> 01:13:46,300
feel? Laura, this is a clear act
of political retaliation.

1283
01:13:46,660 --> 01:13:49,540
There's no other way to put it.
You laid out the sequence of

1284
01:13:49,540 --> 01:13:54,160
events the very next day after
my conversation with you on the

1285
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:58,240
air, warning the American people
about how dangerous a Kamala

1286
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:02,280
Harris presidency would be, I
was placed on this domestic

1287
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,980
terror watch list, which is
called the quiet skies list

1288
01:14:04,980 --> 01:14:10,740
under the Department of Homeland
Security. The clear pain and

1289
01:14:10,740 --> 01:14:13,800
real, visceral hurt that comes
from this is, as you mentioned,

1290
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,220
like many Americans, I enlisted
because of the terrorist attacks

1291
01:14:17,220 --> 01:14:20,780
on 911 to go after the Islamist
terrorists who attacked us on

1292
01:14:20,780 --> 01:14:26,300
that day, and to now have my own
government now turn around and

1293
01:14:26,300 --> 01:14:32,600
put me on a domestic terror
watch list. It is, it hits to

1294
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,540
the core and is the ultimate
sense of betrayal,

1295
01:14:37,580 --> 01:14:40,100
Adam Curry: okay? Because, yes,
it is a betrayal.

1296
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,300
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's kind of an amusing

1297
01:14:43,300 --> 01:14:45,520
betrayal. I have nothing. I

1298
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:50,500
Adam Curry: have I noticed just
one of those aside things. Tulsi

1299
01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:54,400
does not look good on her from
her, if they shoot her from the

1300
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,380
left side. Have you noticed
this?

1301
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,660
John C Dvorak: She does have
angles that make. Look better,

1302
01:15:00,660 --> 01:15:01,140
yeah,

1303
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:04,980
Adam Curry: straight front on is
good. And and on her, let me see

1304
01:15:04,980 --> 01:15:09,240
her right side, the left side,
oh, makes her look very old and

1305
01:15:09,480 --> 01:15:13,800
kind of crackly and that then
you, you know, that block, her

1306
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,740
John C Dvorak: site, her left
specifically, yes, her left

1307
01:15:16,740 --> 01:15:18,840
side, not looking at her, at her
left No,

1308
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,380
Adam Curry: her left side
specifically. And that's also

1309
01:15:21,380 --> 01:15:26,180
the side with the with the the
blonde lock,

1310
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:29,540
Unknown: oh yeah, tell

1311
01:15:29,540 --> 01:15:31,460
Adam Curry: them to look at,
look at someone. Some be on.

1312
01:15:31,460 --> 01:15:35,660
Look out for it. Once you see
it, you can't unsee it. Yeah, I

1313
01:15:35,900 --> 01:15:38,660
John C Dvorak: have probably
enough to look at it. Okay, too.

1314
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,980
Unknown: We look at why they are
doing this, it has a chilling

1315
01:15:41,980 --> 01:15:46,000
effect. It sends a warning, both
to me and to anyone else who

1316
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,960
even thinks about daring to
criticize our own government,

1317
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,960
which is a guaranteed, protected
right under the First Amendment.

1318
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,740
Yeah, that that we will be
subject to a violation of our

1319
01:15:56,740 --> 01:16:00,540
Fourth Amendment right to
privacy through this kind of

1320
01:16:00,540 --> 01:16:03,420
surveillance, and that's that's
the biggest stress that's been

1321
01:16:03,420 --> 01:16:07,620
caused by this entire situation.
Laura is now forever. I will. I

1322
01:16:07,620 --> 01:16:10,680
will always be looking over my
shoulder wondering if and how

1323
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,520
our government in any of these
different agencies is

1324
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:19,140
surveilling me, watching me. Are
they reading my phone calls?

1325
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,220
Yeah. I was going to say yes,
yes and yes, that's what I would

1326
01:16:22,220 --> 01:16:25,100
guess. At least now in a letter
from whistleblower attorney

1327
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:29,420
Tristan Levitt, he writes that
the special mission coverage in

1328
01:16:29,420 --> 01:16:33,440
MS gabbard's case reportedly
involves two explosive detection

1329
01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:37,820
canine teams, one transportation
security analyst and explosives

1330
01:16:37,940 --> 01:16:42,460
one plainclothes TSA supervisor
and three federal air marshals

1331
01:16:42,580 --> 01:16:45,820
on every flight. Ms, Gabbard
boards,

1332
01:16:46,660 --> 01:16:48,820
Adam Curry: well, do they get
her first class seating?

1333
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,300
John C Dvorak: I just find the
whole thing peculiar. But did

1334
01:16:55,300 --> 01:16:58,000
you notice the commonality with
the sky? Ritter, clip,

1335
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,080
Unknown: airplane, using

1336
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,100
John C Dvorak: the term chilling
Oh, which you actually noticed

1337
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:14,460
when he said it, yeah, chilling
effect. She says it right the

1338
01:17:14,460 --> 01:17:18,360
beginning of that clip. And I
listened to the Ritter clip. He

1339
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,220
said, this is like code,

1340
01:17:21,420 --> 01:17:23,840
Adam Curry: hmm, you so they're
both, let me hear, let me hear.

1341
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,340
Tulsi again, say chilling. We

1342
01:17:25,340 --> 01:17:28,400
Unknown: look at why they are
doing this. It has a chilling

1343
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:29,720
effect. And

1344
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,880
Adam Curry: did Ritter say that
in his first or second clip? I

1345
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,080
don't remember, but I

1346
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,180
John C Dvorak: don't remember
what he said, he but he said it

1347
01:17:35,180 --> 01:17:38,120
is at a point where you picked
up on it. I was like, probably

1348
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,720
the second ship. But it's not
just chilling, a chilling

1349
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:45,700
effect. It's exactly the same
wordage, which is like, Well,

1350
01:17:45,700 --> 01:17:51,220
okay, I guess it does, but it
just seems like a coincidence

1351
01:17:51,820 --> 01:17:55,900
that of all the people that are
being well, hold on a sec,

1352
01:17:57,220 --> 01:18:03,600
Unknown: they are both military.
So dia CIA.

1353
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,180
Adam Curry: So it could be the
DIA code for chilling C chilling

1354
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:09,780
effect.

1355
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,200
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know what to make of it, but I

1356
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:20,900
just I did notice it, and it was
clear as day, and it was exact

1357
01:18:20,900 --> 01:18:25,820
same coded language, which
always, especially from these

1358
01:18:25,820 --> 01:18:29,720
two events, which are nowhere
near each other, but they're

1359
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,800
using the same coded language.
So it just bother me. Okay,

1360
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,080
final clip for Tulsi, literally

1361
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:40,660
Unknown: like the Soviet Union,
China today, North Korea, any

1362
01:18:40,660 --> 01:18:44,080
totalitarian regime but Donald
Trump the totalitarian right?

1363
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:48,940
He's the dictator in waiting.
Okay, yeah, this is just and

1364
01:18:48,940 --> 01:18:51,460
this is what, what we know
about, and we know about it

1365
01:18:51,460 --> 01:18:53,560
because of these brave
whistleblowers from the Air

1366
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,740
Marshal Service who are coming
forward. What I'm questioning

1367
01:18:56,740 --> 01:18:59,980
is, what are the things that are
happening in our government that

1368
01:18:59,980 --> 01:19:02,940
I don't know about how long have
they been surveilling me. This

1369
01:19:02,940 --> 01:19:06,480
is just the recent occurrence. I
would not be surprised to know

1370
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,960
that there are other government
agencies who are also being

1371
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,440
weaponized against political
opponents, those who dare to

1372
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:18,000
challenge this regime of the
Biden Harris administration, and

1373
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,380
that's really what it comes down
to, and why they have to be

1374
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:26,900
stopped the right to life,
liberty and the pursuit of

1375
01:19:26,900 --> 01:19:30,440
happiness, I cannot fund free.
And you pointed to this, yes,

1376
01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:34,460
exactly. I cannot get free so
long as my government is

1377
01:19:34,460 --> 01:19:37,100
breathing down my neck and
watching my every move.

1378
01:19:37,340 --> 01:19:42,340
Adam Curry: I disagree with her
here. I do not think that these

1379
01:19:42,340 --> 01:19:46,420
agencies or these divisions, and
I'm specifically looking at the

1380
01:19:46,420 --> 01:19:53,260
military industrial base or the
intelligence community, they're

1381
01:19:53,260 --> 01:19:59,080
not all in on anybody except
themselves, and as is witnessed

1382
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:04,440
by the. The heavily military
industrial base funded AIPAC.

1383
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,500
Unknown: It's been one of the
most expensive primaries in

1384
01:20:07,500 --> 01:20:12,900
history. APEC spent $8.5 million
for Wesley Bell's campaign to

1385
01:20:12,900 --> 01:20:16,860
defeat Missouri representative
curry bush. She's been a member

1386
01:20:16,860 --> 01:20:20,100
of the progressive congressional
group, the squad, and a target

1387
01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:23,180
of a pack because of her
critical stance on Israel's war

1388
01:20:23,180 --> 01:20:27,200
on Gaza since October 7, Cory
Bush is the second member of the

1389
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,980
squad who has been unseated in a
similar APEC strategy in the

1390
01:20:30,980 --> 01:20:34,880
primaries this year, Democratic
Representative from New York,

1391
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,480
Jamal Bowman, was defeated by
pro Israeli centrist George

1392
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:42,880
Latimer. AIPAC put nearly $15
million into latimer's campaign

1393
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,960
trail. The results showcase the
political and economic power of

1394
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:51,340
AIPAC and deep divisions among
Democrats over Israel's own slot

1395
01:20:51,340 --> 01:20:54,760
on the besieged trip. But it's
not only Democrats who are being

1396
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,940
targeted. A Republican
Representative from Virginia,

1397
01:20:57,940 --> 01:21:01,860
Bob good has lost his seat
against John McGuire, who was

1398
01:21:01,860 --> 01:21:05,100
endorsed by the Republican
Jewish Coalition. The group

1399
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:08,520
attacked Congressman good after
his vote against financial aid

1400
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,180
to Israel. AIPAC says these
victories are and I quote,

1401
01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:16,320
further proof that being pro
Israel is good policy and good

1402
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,340
politics on both sides of the
aisle. Meanwhile, unceded

1403
01:21:20,340 --> 01:21:23,300
Congress members and their
supporters slam a pack for

1404
01:21:23,300 --> 01:21:27,020
spending millions of dollars and
I called again to brainwash

1405
01:21:27,020 --> 01:21:27,740
waters

1406
01:21:29,180 --> 01:21:32,300
John C Dvorak: now, wait, wait,
the Republican Jewish Alliance.

1407
01:21:32,300 --> 01:21:34,880
Is that? What she said? What is
it? Three guys,

1408
01:21:36,020 --> 01:21:39,560
Adam Curry: what? Let me listen.
Well, this is TRT, so let me

1409
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,080
hear what she said, meanwhile,

1410
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,420
Unknown: unceded Congress
members and their supporters

1411
01:21:43,420 --> 01:21:46,780
slam a pack for spending
millions of dollars, and I

1412
01:21:46,780 --> 01:21:49,000
called again to brainwash
waters. I

1413
01:21:49,060 --> 01:21:51,700
John C Dvorak: don't know where
she said that you just back for

1414
01:21:51,700 --> 01:21:52,240
but the

1415
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,960
Adam Curry: whole, the whole
point is that thing is funded by

1416
01:21:55,960 --> 01:22:01,080
the by the military industrial
base. Sure, you know, it's and,

1417
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,440
you know, the Jews are just,
basically in it, just, you know,

1418
01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:08,100
as a sideline. Because look at
what they're doing. Look at how

1419
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:11,820
they're ramping up Iran. And,
you know, and I was listening to

1420
01:22:11,820 --> 01:22:14,400
a couple other podcasts about
it, I don't think Iran's going

1421
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,860
to do anything. I think, you
know, they're just going to sit

1422
01:22:16,860 --> 01:22:18,300
back. You know, they're not
going to retire.

1423
01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:19,860
John C Dvorak: They killed the
guy themselves.

1424
01:22:19,980 --> 01:22:25,340
Adam Curry: Yeah, oh yeah. He
was annoying. And it's

1425
01:22:25,340 --> 01:22:28,700
John C Dvorak: hanging out. He's
over there. It's they don't like

1426
01:22:28,700 --> 01:22:33,080
the the the Shia anyway. You
know, there is that thing we

1427
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,420
brought it up in the last show,
that there's difference in the

1428
01:22:35,420 --> 01:22:36,260
religions, and

1429
01:22:36,260 --> 01:22:40,300
Adam Curry: it's better to have
Israel waiting. I mean, that's

1430
01:22:40,300 --> 01:22:43,900
terror. You know, you're waiting
like, do I have to go into my,

1431
01:22:43,900 --> 01:22:46,120
my, my bunker? Do I have to get
into my

1432
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,360
John C Dvorak: meanwhile, the
USA has to spend millions of

1433
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,780
dollars in fuel and efforts to
keep all these ships going

1434
01:22:52,780 --> 01:22:56,920
around and around. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. No, it's, it's a horrible

1435
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,060
situation. No, it's

1436
01:22:58,060 --> 01:23:00,840
Adam Curry: a great situation.
Lots of money, lots of money

1437
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:01,140
back to

1438
01:23:01,140 --> 01:23:03,780
John C Dvorak: Tulsi Gabbard,
and the fact that, you know, she

1439
01:23:03,780 --> 01:23:07,860
probably is not being targeted
by intelligence. She's being

1440
01:23:07,860 --> 01:23:11,460
targeted, though, by the demo.
I've said this before. I'll say

1441
01:23:11,460 --> 01:23:16,980
it again. The Democrat Party is
a cult. She quit. The cult is

1442
01:23:16,980 --> 01:23:21,800
within you. She quit the cult
and became kind of a independent

1443
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,460
Republican type, and they're
going after for that reason. And

1444
01:23:25,460 --> 01:23:28,520
that's the only thing that's
going on. Is that, okay, you

1445
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,460
quit the party. This happened to
anyone who's ever been a

1446
01:23:31,460 --> 01:23:34,160
Democrat. It lasts for about a
decade.

1447
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,320
Adam Curry: Well, have they been
targeting you since you quit the

1448
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:41,560
Democrat party? That was in 1979
Oh, so you're done. You're out

1449
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:41,860
now.

1450
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,420
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's been
done for years. I

1451
01:23:43,420 --> 01:23:45,640
Adam Curry: mean, I've been
long, you've been deprogrammed.

1452
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,440
You're good. It's like, That

1453
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,380
John C Dvorak: guy, I've been
out of that, yeah, but it was,

1454
01:23:50,380 --> 01:23:53,140
it's a cult, and so would be,
when you quit a cult, they

1455
01:23:53,140 --> 01:23:56,260
always go after you right away,
and they keep hounding you come

1456
01:23:56,260 --> 01:24:00,480
either come back into the cult,
or you or then you just, you

1457
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:03,360
know, yeah, it takes forever,
though, so that, I think that's

1458
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,660
what they're doing to her,
freaking her out. So we

1459
01:24:06,660 --> 01:24:10,080
Adam Curry: just put another
three and a half billion for

1460
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:14,280
Israel to spend on US weapons,
according to CNN, you know,

1461
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,540
we're positioning, uh, ships,
big, beautiful ships. Yes, it's

1462
01:24:18,540 --> 01:24:21,120
great. Just keep it rolling for
a little bit. And then we have

1463
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,740
this. This was very odd, this
story. Well, here's the setup.

1464
01:24:24,740 --> 01:24:26,540
30 seconds, senior

1465
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,360
Unknown: EU officials have
joined a growing chorus of

1466
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,900
condemnation after an Israeli
air strike on a school compound

1467
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:37,220
killed dozens in Gaza City. The
EU's top diplomat, Joseph

1468
01:24:37,220 --> 01:24:40,720
Burrell, expressed his horror at
the attack, which Gazan

1469
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,900
officials say killed more than
90 people sheltering in the

1470
01:24:43,900 --> 01:24:46,540
school. Egypt and Qatar are
demanding an urgent

1471
01:24:46,540 --> 01:24:49,540
investigation, and the US has
said it's, quote, deeply

1472
01:24:49,540 --> 01:24:53,260
concerned about the strike.
Israel has repeatedly claimed

1473
01:24:53,260 --> 01:24:57,220
that Hamas uses schools as cover
in the wake of the October 7

1474
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:58,300
terror attacks,

1475
01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:01,860
Adam Curry: so the way they make
its. Around, and I could have

1476
01:25:01,860 --> 01:25:03,720
clipped him 20 of these,

1477
01:25:03,900 --> 01:25:07,860
John C Dvorak: the way I have
the NPR version. Yeah, that.

1478
01:25:07,860 --> 01:25:10,500
Where is it? Under Israel? Got
it.

1479
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,560
Unknown: You hit it. Vice
President Harris, ahead of a

1480
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,800
campaign rally in Las Vegas
tonight, said, once again, that

1481
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,380
there have been too many
civilian casualties in the

1482
01:25:19,380 --> 01:25:21,800
Israel Hamas war. Israel has a
right

1483
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:27,320
to go after the terrorists that
are Hamas, but as I have said,

1484
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:31,820
many, many times, they also
have, I believe, an important

1485
01:25:31,820 --> 01:25:34,400
responsibility to avoid civilian
casualties.

1486
01:25:35,420 --> 01:25:38,180
The school was being used as a
shelter for Palestinians

1487
01:25:38,180 --> 01:25:41,800
displaced by the war in an area
where people have been displaced

1488
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,040
since the war started in
October, the Israeli military

1489
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,380
says they were targeting a Hamas
command center within the

1490
01:25:47,380 --> 01:25:50,380
school. The attack came early
this morning, when many people

1491
01:25:50,380 --> 01:25:53,080
were praying in an area used as
a mosque.

1492
01:25:53,500 --> 01:25:56,860
John C Dvorak: So and then you
have the 14 second version,

1493
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,040
which is the shortest of them
all on PBS, which is the called

1494
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,100
last Israeli strike,

1495
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,040
Unknown: an Israeli air strike
in Gaza hit a school today,

1496
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:08,580
killing at least 80 people. The
strike happened during morning

1497
01:26:08,580 --> 01:26:12,660
prayers. According to witnesses,
Israeli defense forces say Hamas

1498
01:26:12,660 --> 01:26:16,440
militants were operating out of
the school. Hamas disputes the

1499
01:26:16,440 --> 01:26:18,120
claim. Okay, so

1500
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,960
Adam Curry: all the other
reports I heard was according,

1501
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:27,560
you know, according to the Hamas
medical information source. In

1502
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,320
addition to that, when they say
school, school, school is a

1503
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,440
Saturday, I looked it up,
there's not a lot of kids who go

1504
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:39,560
to school in the Muslim faith on
Saturday, but they kind of make

1505
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,820
it sound like they killed kids.
They certainly started that way.

1506
01:26:42,820 --> 01:26:46,360
And I think they, they did kill
some senior dude, didn't they?

1507
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:49,660
It's kind of omitted from the
reports they.

1508
01:26:49,660 --> 01:26:51,820
John C Dvorak: I thought that
senior dude that was killed with

1509
01:26:51,820 --> 01:26:53,740
some in some other operation
could

1510
01:26:53,740 --> 01:26:58,420
Adam Curry: be but this is now
being used as a wedge. This is

1511
01:26:58,420 --> 01:27:01,500
one of these examples where, I'm
sorry, this is a spokes hole

1512
01:27:01,500 --> 01:27:03,360
from the US State Department.

1513
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,820
Unknown: This is one of these
examples where the law of

1514
01:27:05,820 --> 01:27:10,500
unintended consequences in war
created some just disastrous

1515
01:27:10,500 --> 01:27:14,220
consequences. You know, as as
the White House said today,

1516
01:27:14,220 --> 01:27:17,100
although we understand and
recognize that Israel needs to

1517
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:22,340
target terrorists, that they're
deeply concerned and that Israel

1518
01:27:22,340 --> 01:27:25,460
needs to take more precautions
to protect civilians. From the

1519
01:27:25,460 --> 01:27:28,220
American point of view, what
they're using this for,

1520
01:27:28,220 --> 01:27:31,400
hopefully, is to going to give
some more momentum for the

1521
01:27:31,580 --> 01:27:35,540
ceasefire hostage deal, that it
kind of underscores the urgency.

1522
01:27:35,540 --> 01:27:39,020
It's kind of a now or never
time, which is why we're hoping

1523
01:27:39,020 --> 01:27:42,040
to have a kind of diplomatic
train of representatives from

1524
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:46,240
the United States, with this
August 15 date set for this week

1525
01:27:46,780 --> 01:27:49,960
to finally bring the table the
parties to the table and reach

1526
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:54,160
agreement in a very sad and
tragic way. Today's event gives

1527
01:27:54,220 --> 01:27:57,520
the United States additional
leverage and pressure, because

1528
01:27:57,820 --> 01:28:01,680
while there is this tragedy that
took place this morning in Gaza,

1529
01:28:01,740 --> 01:28:04,680
there's another disaster looming
on their northern border with

1530
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,400
Hezbollah. You know, the Israel
understands that they need the

1531
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,620
United States to back them up
right now, while they're

1532
01:28:10,620 --> 01:28:13,860
standing and bracing for
retaliatory attacks on both Iran

1533
01:28:13,860 --> 01:28:17,220
and Hezbollah, they're heavily
dependent on the United States

1534
01:28:17,220 --> 01:28:20,900
for weapons and other assets
intelligence. So what in the

1535
01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:24,440
best case scenario, this
morning's event can do is to

1536
01:28:24,440 --> 01:28:28,040
create some kind of momentum and
incentive for the United States

1537
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,160
to say to Israel, look, we need
some concessions from you to

1538
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:35,900
reach that cease fire in Gaza.
You need us more, in fact, than

1539
01:28:35,900 --> 01:28:39,800
we need you at this point. And
Netanyahu, it's time to seal the

1540
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:40,220
deal.

1541
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:44,320
Adam Curry: Okay? Working a deal
would look good for Kamala.

1542
01:28:46,420 --> 01:28:50,500
That's from the State
Department. So I'll, I'll take

1543
01:28:50,500 --> 01:28:55,180
that as some genuine
information. But still, we got

1544
01:28:55,180 --> 01:28:58,240
to keep the ships in the, in the
in the region. Can't, can't be

1545
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:04,380
given up on that. Do. Just
speaking, yes, I

1546
01:29:04,380 --> 01:29:06,600
John C Dvorak: wanted to talk
about Ukraine before we oh,

1547
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:12,240
goodness, do you get about that?
Okay, all right, mainly because

1548
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,580
of the Ukraine going into
Russia. And I have the three

1549
01:29:14,580 --> 01:29:14,940
clips,

1550
01:29:14,940 --> 01:29:16,260
Adam Curry: yes. So they say

1551
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,560
John C Dvorak: I'm, I'm, well,
you know, maybe, maybe it's not

1552
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,640
suspicious, yeah. But I have
the, I have the three clips. One

1553
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,720
is the newest Ukraine into
Russia. NPR clips, 55 seconds.

1554
01:29:26,900 --> 01:29:27,980
Unknown: Oh, a second,

1555
01:29:29,420 --> 01:29:31,280
John C Dvorak: yes. Newest yet
got it. Ukrainian

1556
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,040
Unknown: president Zelensky is
praising his country's troops

1557
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:37,940
for their incursion into western
Russia, which caught the Russian

1558
01:29:37,940 --> 01:29:42,220
military by surprise. As NPR.
Greg myri reports these were

1559
01:29:42,220 --> 01:29:46,240
Zelinsky most explicit remarks
so far on Ukraine's ongoing

1560
01:29:46,300 --> 01:29:47,260
offensive.

1561
01:29:47,980 --> 01:29:51,520
In his nightly video address,
President Zelensky said he'd

1562
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,420
receive updates on the operation
to, quote, push the war into the

1563
01:29:55,420 --> 01:29:59,140
aggressors territory. He went on
to say that the offensive is

1564
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,640
exactly the. Kind of pressure
that's needed, pressure on the

1565
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:06,300
aggressor. Ukrainian officials
have been tight lipped about the

1566
01:30:06,300 --> 01:30:09,480
offensive that began with
Tuesday's surge into Russia's

1567
01:30:09,480 --> 01:30:12,720
curse region, but some
information is starting to

1568
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,380
emerge. Ukrainian troops are
beginning to post on social

1569
01:30:16,380 --> 01:30:20,180
media from inside Russia. They
show themselves tearing down

1570
01:30:20,180 --> 01:30:24,380
Russian flags and standing in
front of road signs to indicate

1571
01:30:24,380 --> 01:30:26,240
they've entered a village or
town.

1572
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:31,160
Adam Curry: Okay? Now I've read
reports everything from Putin is

1573
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,420
freaked out. He's rushing around
state of emergency in Moscow,

1574
01:30:35,780 --> 01:30:38,540
and then I see reports of him
going, well, there's something

1575
01:30:38,540 --> 01:30:41,380
going on. We got to take care of
that. I'm sorry, there's

1576
01:30:41,380 --> 01:30:43,540
John C Dvorak: also some reports
about, I don't have the guy's

1577
01:30:43,540 --> 01:30:49,840
name, and I now I feel bad about
it, but there's some general

1578
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,500
that has been running things,
this Ukraine thing, and they're

1579
01:30:53,500 --> 01:30:56,080
trying to get rid of them. On
the Ukraine side of the

1580
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,900
Russians? No, no. On the Russian
side. Oh, typical

1581
01:30:58,900 --> 01:31:01,800
Adam Curry: Russian way of
getting rid of somebody. Yeah.

1582
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:07,320
John C Dvorak: So I have two
analysis clips. Is Ukraine

1583
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,680
analysis one and two. Let's just
play these and then we can talk

1584
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,180
about it. Olga Robinson

1585
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,820
Unknown: there, well, we can
bring in Peter Dickinson now. He

1586
01:31:14,820 --> 01:31:18,780
is editor of Ukraine alert at
the Atlantic Council Think Tank

1587
01:31:19,260 --> 01:31:22,100
is joining us this evening from
Kyiv. Very good to have you with

1588
01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:26,000
us, Peter, once again. So I have
to say we've not been hearing

1589
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,480
that much from Ukrainian
authorities specifically about

1590
01:31:29,480 --> 01:31:33,080
this. I did see one comment from
one Ukrainian MP, of course, I'm

1591
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,720
sure who you're very familiar
with, Alexei concerenko, who

1592
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:40,040
told the BBC that Ukraine was
trying to take back military

1593
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,820
initiative here. What do you
make of what is happening?

1594
01:31:43,180 --> 01:31:45,820
Well, you're absolutely right.
The Ukrainian authorities have

1595
01:31:45,820 --> 01:31:49,300
been very tight lipped about
this whole affair. They've said

1596
01:31:49,300 --> 01:31:53,080
very little. President Zelensky
has alluded to it in some of his

1597
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,860
recent comments, but nothing
specific, and certainly nothing

1598
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,740
that would give a clear
indication of what Ukraine's

1599
01:31:59,860 --> 01:32:03,480
ultimate intentions are, and
that fits with a broader pattern

1600
01:32:03,480 --> 01:32:07,980
of surprise. The Ukrainians
managed to plan this operation,

1601
01:32:08,580 --> 01:32:11,820
it seems to be a fairly
sophisticated and complex

1602
01:32:11,820 --> 01:32:16,080
military offensive, and prepare
it and plan it over a presumably

1603
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,560
extended period without anybody,
without anybody being aware of

1604
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,100
these preparations. So
certainly, the Russians were

1605
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:26,000
taken by surprise. It would seem
that Ukraine's western partners

1606
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:29,420
were taken by surprise, and
frankly speaking, most people in

1607
01:32:29,420 --> 01:32:33,380
Kyiv here were also taken by
surprise. So they seem to have

1608
01:32:33,380 --> 01:32:38,180
achieved quite a remarkable
success given the openness of

1609
01:32:38,180 --> 01:32:42,220
the battlefield these days, the
sort of ubiquity of drones and

1610
01:32:42,220 --> 01:32:45,700
the sense, certainly in on the
battlefield in east and south

1611
01:32:45,700 --> 01:32:48,940
Ukraine, that there is no real
opportunity for secrecy here,

1612
01:32:48,940 --> 01:32:52,480
Ukraine has shown that they can
still have they can still spring

1613
01:32:52,480 --> 01:32:53,380
a surprise.

1614
01:32:53,680 --> 01:33:01,980
Adam Curry: Valerie garyism off,
who replaced Nicola Makarov and

1615
01:33:01,980 --> 01:33:04,500
currently serves as the
commander of all Russian forces

1616
01:33:04,500 --> 01:33:07,320
in Ukraine, considered one of
the most powerful men in Russia,

1617
01:33:07,500 --> 01:33:10,620
and one of three people to hold
access to Russia's nuclear

1618
01:33:10,620 --> 01:33:15,060
weapons. That's the guy you're
talking about could be.

1619
01:33:16,860 --> 01:33:19,980
John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, this
report is from the BBC. Is kind

1620
01:33:19,980 --> 01:33:22,220
of weird, like it kind of
confirms your

1621
01:33:22,220 --> 01:33:24,260
Adam Curry: leg or say cookie
instead of weird.

1622
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:26,480
John C Dvorak: Did I say weird?
He

1623
01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:28,280
Adam Curry: just said,
literally. Said weird.

1624
01:33:33,020 --> 01:33:35,660
John C Dvorak: Flag on I wish I
you know I'm not as good as you

1625
01:33:35,660 --> 01:33:41,380
as turning this stuff off, but
you have to keep hounding me. I

1626
01:33:41,380 --> 01:33:46,840
will trust me, kooky, uh, maybe
that, you know what really gets

1627
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:51,220
to me, to my you, gets that you
had that submarine sound,

1628
01:33:51,220 --> 01:33:52,180
honking sound,

1629
01:33:54,700 --> 01:33:55,720
Unknown: yes, okay, put

1630
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:59,020
John C Dvorak: it at the ready
and just honked me when I do it.

1631
01:34:01,420 --> 01:34:02,700
Unknown: There you go, that one.

1632
01:34:03,480 --> 01:34:05,580
Adam Curry: Okay, all right, at
the ready,

1633
01:34:06,060 --> 01:34:08,520
John C Dvorak: yeah, and that,
of course, this annoys our

1634
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:12,120
listeners, yeah, well, and
producers, because it's like,

1635
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:15,300
why are these guys so upset? Why
are these guys preoccupied with

1636
01:34:15,300 --> 01:34:16,380
what they say?

1637
01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:19,020
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, it's a
thing. It's

1638
01:34:19,020 --> 01:34:22,460
John C Dvorak: just a thing. We
do this because we we do this

1639
01:34:22,460 --> 01:34:25,040
part of our part two,

1640
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,320
Unknown: well, we'll talking
about that surprise. I mean, we

1641
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,980
did also hear that Washington
was reportedly surprised by

1642
01:34:30,980 --> 01:34:34,760
this. And you know, I was at the
NATO summit just a few weeks ago

1643
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,100
there in Washington, DC, and
there was this continued

1644
01:34:37,100 --> 01:34:40,840
conversation about using longer
range missiles to strike

1645
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:44,140
military targets deeper within
Russia and many of the Baltic

1646
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:49,300
leaders that I spoke to all for
it, Washington didn't back it at

1647
01:34:49,300 --> 01:34:51,940
that stage. So I just wonder,
what do you think some of these

1648
01:34:52,060 --> 01:34:54,940
Western military partners will
be making of what we're seeing?

1649
01:34:54,940 --> 01:34:55,240
Well, I

1650
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,700
think that's one of the big one
of the big questions of this

1651
01:34:57,700 --> 01:35:00,180
operation, and perhaps also one
of the reasons about. I have

1652
01:35:00,180 --> 01:35:03,420
this operation again, you're
quite right to say that there

1653
01:35:03,420 --> 01:35:07,080
has been a lot of resistance
from Ukraine's partners,

1654
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,260
particularly the US and
particularly Germany, about the

1655
01:35:10,260 --> 01:35:14,220
use of Western weapons in Russia
against Russian targets within

1656
01:35:14,220 --> 01:35:18,420
Russia, and Ukraine has been
pushing very strongly to have

1657
01:35:18,420 --> 01:35:21,080
those restrictions lifted, to
have the right to be able to

1658
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:25,460
attack, and Ukrainians have been
very vocal saying they cannot be

1659
01:35:25,460 --> 01:35:27,920
expected to win a war whilst
they're being asked to fight

1660
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:31,700
essentially there with one hand,
tight, mind, their backs. So

1661
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,360
what we're seeing now with this
very open and for the first

1662
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:39,560
time, an actual direct invasion
of Russia by the Ukrainian

1663
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:42,460
military, is them saying, Well,
you don't need to fear

1664
01:35:42,460 --> 01:35:45,460
escalation. You don't need to
fear Russia's red lines, because

1665
01:35:45,460 --> 01:35:49,720
actually, Russia will not react
in some dramatic fashion in

1666
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,780
terms of escalation. There's
nothing there. It's essentially

1667
01:35:52,780 --> 01:35:55,300
a bluff. So Ukraine is calling
the

1668
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,320
Adam Curry: bluff. Well, they
did this. They didn't do this

1669
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,700
with our necessarily, with our
stuff. They did it with F 16.

1670
01:36:02,700 --> 01:36:08,400
They did it with drones, which
is yay for Eric Schmidt.

1671
01:36:10,620 --> 01:36:14,400
John C Dvorak: I have no idea
what's going on with this, and

1672
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,120
maybe they did or didn't use our
stuff, but they're not supposed

1673
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,500
to use our stuff, not without
permission. I don't know this is

1674
01:36:21,500 --> 01:36:24,440
going to develop into this is
not a good thing. I don't think

1675
01:36:24,440 --> 01:36:27,680
i It's all we call their bluff.
Okay, well, you don't know that.

1676
01:36:29,480 --> 01:36:32,240
What was the bluff that we're
not going to do anything? It

1677
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,580
just the whole thing makes no
sense. It just seems like they

1678
01:36:34,940 --> 01:36:39,320
they had a plan to do something
like this, and they did it to

1679
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:45,400
prove they could do it. Was just
meaningless. Yeah, all right,

1680
01:36:46,420 --> 01:36:48,700
yeah, that's all I got on
Ukraine, okay,

1681
01:36:50,020 --> 01:36:52,720
Adam Curry: just on the military
front. One of my one of our

1682
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:59,740
dudes named Ben, checked in, um,
CENTCOM Central Command, uh, has

1683
01:36:59,740 --> 01:37:03,180
some kind of cyber event going
on. It's been going on

1684
01:37:03,180 --> 01:37:07,560
throughout the whole weekend,
and even centcom.mil is

1685
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:13,380
unresponsive, which is their
their main website, and you

1686
01:37:13,380 --> 01:37:16,080
didn't hear about that anywhere
else. No.

1687
01:37:16,500 --> 01:37:19,920
John C Dvorak: Could be Iran
again? Could be Russia. Could be

1688
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,200
Ukraine. I like a rod

1689
01:37:22,340 --> 01:37:26,060
Adam Curry: and I and, well,
while we're on that, I have a

1690
01:37:26,060 --> 01:37:30,380
crowd strike, EULA, lawsuit
update from, from Rob. Clown

1691
01:37:30,380 --> 01:37:36,560
strike, yeah. Clown strike,
write that down. Yes. A clout,

1692
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:41,980
you know, the boys, David boys,
his they're, suing. Yeah, the

1693
01:37:41,980 --> 01:37:47,080
big boys, the big boys. Boys,
big boys are suing. So delta,

1694
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,020
you know, delta is really mad.
They're saying, Hey, man,

1695
01:37:50,020 --> 01:37:55,720
because you guys, we lost a lot
of money. But So Rob got a hold

1696
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,560
of Delta's reply to crowd
strikes response, which was sent

1697
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,840
by David Boyce himself. And Rob
says it's interesting because it

1698
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,440
touches on the contractual
limitations on damages that

1699
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:12,480
crowd strike, or clown strike
has cited. Boys has not yet

1700
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:15,600
invoked the F word, meaning
fraud, but he does allege,

1701
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:20,300
quote, gross negligence and
quote, willful misconduct. And

1702
01:38:20,300 --> 01:38:24,380
to support these allegations, he
cites crowdstrikes own reports

1703
01:38:24,380 --> 01:38:27,800
when they came out with a very
technical reason for what had

1704
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:31,520
happened, as for fraud. He makes
a not so veiled suggestion that

1705
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:35,660
discovery will dislodge even
more evidence. The letter speaks

1706
01:38:35,660 --> 01:38:40,840
of a second bug that made the
problem even worse, and response

1707
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:43,720
to crowdstrikes claim that delta
caused its own troubles through

1708
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,800
bad IT operations boys argues
that Delta was just relying on

1709
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:53,860
CrowdStrike and Microsoft, so
they're estimating damages at

1710
01:38:53,860 --> 01:38:59,800
half a billion dollars. Yeah,
yeah. So this EULA thing may

1711
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:01,320
fall apart. This may be

1712
01:39:01,740 --> 01:39:04,140
John C Dvorak: Let's hope so.
Wouldn't that be great?

1713
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:05,100
Adam Curry: It would be

1714
01:39:05,100 --> 01:39:07,320
John C Dvorak: great if it
actually falls apart, because

1715
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:11,460
then it opens the door to what
it does. It opens the door to

1716
01:39:11,460 --> 01:39:16,620
better quality products, amen,
because right now, it uses the

1717
01:39:16,620 --> 01:39:20,720
all purpose excuse to make crap
and sell it. And

1718
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:22,940
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage.

1719
01:39:22,940 --> 01:39:25,340
Say in the morning to you, the
man who put the sea in clown

1720
01:39:25,340 --> 01:39:27,740
strike. Say hello to my friend
and the other end, the one, the

1721
01:39:27,740 --> 01:39:28,700
only. Mr. Jones, the

1722
01:39:34,700 --> 01:39:37,220
John C Dvorak: morning to you.
Mr. Adam crane, the morning

1723
01:39:37,220 --> 01:39:39,800
ship. See Bruce and knights out
there. Hello. Chelsea.

1724
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:40,600
Unknown: El Salvador.

1725
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:47,260
Adam Curry: I didn't, I think I
counted most of them. Oh, 2358

1726
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,580
good troll count. We have more
trolls in the troll room than

1727
01:39:51,580 --> 01:39:54,580
Kamala Harris has at one of her
rallies. This is good way to go.

1728
01:39:54,580 --> 01:39:55,060
Trolls.

1729
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:58,960
John C Dvorak: How many? I
didn't get the number, 2358 for

1730
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,080
Sunday. Yeah. Yeah, it's down
100

1731
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,620
Adam Curry: it is down 100 but
we're also at one hour and 40

1732
01:40:04,620 --> 01:40:07,740
minutes because you insisted
upon doing Ukraine. And if

1733
01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:10,860
there's anything that scares
troll, my fault, it's it's

1734
01:40:10,860 --> 01:40:13,080
Ukraine news. It's almost as bad
as

1735
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:14,280
Unknown: Africa.

1736
01:40:16,380 --> 01:40:18,120
Adam Curry: The trolls are in
the troll room. You can join

1737
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:23,060
them at troll room.io. We highly
recommend that it's fun. We're

1738
01:40:23,060 --> 01:40:25,520
one of the few podcasts that
have figured out this is the way

1739
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:29,000
to do them. You do the show
live. You have a, in essence, a

1740
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,940
live studio audience, although
much bigger than the phony

1741
01:40:31,940 --> 01:40:34,940
baloney Hollywood guys. And you
can say, and you're interacting.

1742
01:40:34,940 --> 01:40:37,760
I'm reading what people are
saying. Clip custodian sending

1743
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,180
me links, you know, like, Oh,
it's this guy from Russia. This

1744
01:40:40,180 --> 01:40:45,100
is this expands. We have
producers. We have 2000 over

1745
01:40:45,100 --> 01:40:48,760
2000 producers who are on our
ass throughout the entire show.

1746
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,460
This is good. This is how it
should be, because it's value

1747
01:40:51,460 --> 01:40:56,320
for value. Know what I'm saying.
Everyone contributes. We also

1748
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,800
recommend that use a modern
podcast app to listen and be

1749
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,700
alerted when we go live, or any
of the shows that go live, no

1750
01:41:02,700 --> 01:41:07,080
agenda stream, they have a ton
of live shows there, but there's

1751
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:10,920
others as well. There's even a
mastodon account, I think it's

1752
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:15,360
at podcast live, or something.
You can see, whenever a podcast

1753
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,580
goes live, there's a lot,
there's always somebody going

1754
01:41:17,580 --> 01:41:20,040
live. And you can be alerted in
the podcast app, where you get

1755
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,660
all your podcasts, we recommend
you drop your legacy app,

1756
01:41:23,660 --> 01:41:28,280
because so many more features
and with all the de platforming

1757
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:32,540
that's going on three to four a
day from Spotify and from Apple,

1758
01:41:33,260 --> 01:41:35,480
why don't you just keep
listening to the podcast that

1759
01:41:35,480 --> 01:41:38,060
you want to and support them all
through the modern podcast app.

1760
01:41:38,060 --> 01:41:42,460
Podcast apps.com value for value
is still our model, although we

1761
01:41:42,460 --> 01:41:47,920
are desperately seeking an exit
strategy. We got another note

1762
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,980
from somebody who's, uh, who
knows about the cable business,

1763
01:41:50,980 --> 01:41:56,080
and that wasn't quite so rosy as
as as the previous one with the

1764
01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:00,300
spreadsheet. The thing that
stuck out for me was, if you

1765
01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:02,640
guys are going to own cable,
forget putting it out as a

1766
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:07,020
podcast. They'll never go for
it. You get those notes from

1767
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:07,860
that producer? Yeah, I

1768
01:42:07,860 --> 01:42:08,820
Unknown: got them. Yeah,

1769
01:42:09,480 --> 01:42:11,280
Adam Curry: I don't know.
Didn't, didn't sound this great.

1770
01:42:11,460 --> 01:42:11,580
They

1771
01:42:11,580 --> 01:42:16,020
John C Dvorak: were just
Negative Nelly stuff. I mean,

1772
01:42:16,020 --> 01:42:19,080
you can say this about anything,
any project you want to do,

1773
01:42:19,500 --> 01:42:23,660
you'll find some expert, and
it's usually an expert, yes,

1774
01:42:23,660 --> 01:42:27,500
typically, we'll have a million
reasons why it won't work, which

1775
01:42:27,500 --> 01:42:29,480
is, though, just it's a good
sign,

1776
01:42:29,540 --> 01:42:31,820
Adam Curry: and we really know
the reason why it won't work is

1777
01:42:31,820 --> 01:42:36,020
because we don't want to do any
work, and that's why we're gonna

1778
01:42:36,260 --> 01:42:39,620
this. Will go, oh, yeah, we're
doing this because Mimi wants

1779
01:42:39,620 --> 01:42:44,560
it. That's why we're gonna do
this. It's gonna happen. We

1780
01:42:45,340 --> 01:42:49,420
don't have any advertising. It
turns out, most podcasts don't

1781
01:42:49,420 --> 01:42:52,900
have advertising. Wall Street
Journal ran a big article

1782
01:42:52,900 --> 01:42:56,140
saying, you know, all the money
goes to the top, you know, the

1783
01:42:56,140 --> 01:43:01,380
top 1% of podcasts. I gotta say
that's probably true, most of

1784
01:43:01,380 --> 01:43:05,760
the money, and even that, it's
all down. It's down. You know,

1785
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:10,920
their their CPMs are, they're
down. And that's not even taking

1786
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,940
into account inflation. You
know, it's not good out there,

1787
01:43:14,940 --> 01:43:17,760
and by the way, it's not good on
cable. It's not good anywhere.

1788
01:43:18,540 --> 01:43:22,040
You'd think we're in some kind
of recession. John, what do you

1789
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,260
think? What does the hair and
hooker index say? Have you

1790
01:43:24,260 --> 01:43:25,460
checked recently?

1791
01:43:25,580 --> 01:43:27,260
John C Dvorak: Well, no, but
there's been a number of

1792
01:43:27,260 --> 01:43:31,160
articles written about the use
hair and hookers. They use hair

1793
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:36,080
and strippers. Oh, well, and
there's strippers. The stripper

1794
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,740
count is different than hookers,
because the hooker theory, you

1795
01:43:39,740 --> 01:43:45,100
can just look and you can see,
with the strippers, they have to

1796
01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:50,020
actually ask the strippers. You
have to ask them. And so the

1797
01:43:50,020 --> 01:43:53,080
hook, the hairs part, which you
do, you have to ask the

1798
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,060
hairdressers, and they'll tell
you, Well, you know, people

1799
01:43:55,060 --> 01:43:58,120
aren't doing as much. And you
have to ask the hookers, I'm

1800
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,540
sorry, not the hookers, the
strippers. You have to ask the

1801
01:44:00,540 --> 01:44:03,120
strippers or you get, are the
tips as good as they used to be,

1802
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:05,700
that's right. And the guy,
she'll say, man, you know, maybe

1803
01:44:05,700 --> 01:44:11,100
not because you've been better,
yeah. And what's your girl gonna

1804
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:13,140
do? Have you called Raven
recently?

1805
01:44:13,140 --> 01:44:15,660
Adam Curry: Have you checked in
with Raven? Ravens,

1806
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:18,840
John C Dvorak: she's down in
Mexico, and so getting

1807
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:19,560
Adam Curry: a butt lift.

1808
01:44:21,180 --> 01:44:21,980
Unknown: So

1809
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,120
John C Dvorak: so we're not the
only ones who noticed this, but

1810
01:44:26,180 --> 01:44:29,420
you know, it's hard to say. I
mean, I get a lot of notes from

1811
01:44:29,420 --> 01:44:31,820
people saying, I know that
you're bitching about the

1812
01:44:31,820 --> 01:44:34,880
donations being way down, but
we're broke.

1813
01:44:34,940 --> 01:44:38,960
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's that
absolutely well, I mean, an

1814
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,980
entire tech network basically
went out of business.

1815
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,280
John C Dvorak: The other thing
is, if you're broke, if you

1816
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,920
bought a Starbucks coffee in the
last month,

1817
01:44:48,100 --> 01:44:52,240
Adam Curry: yeah, are you that
broke? Yeah, people make

1818
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,340
choices, you know, well,

1819
01:44:54,340 --> 01:44:56,260
John C Dvorak: they should make
the choice against the Starbucks

1820
01:44:56,260 --> 01:44:59,680
coffee and give send us if Yeah,
what is it? What is one of those

1821
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:01,320
coffee? Just nine bucks, $18

1822
01:45:03,300 --> 01:45:05,400
Adam Curry: I don't know it's
very expensive these days.

1823
01:45:06,060 --> 01:45:10,080
That's okay. Well, the the model
remains the same. If you want us

1824
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,320
to stay then, then support us.
It's that simple. It's that

1825
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:18,840
simple. Now, for today, we have
some people to thank in our

1826
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,740
time, talents and treasure
equation, because that's what it

1827
01:45:21,740 --> 01:45:25,820
is. Dame Kenny Benn came in with
the artwork that we chose for

1828
01:45:25,820 --> 01:45:31,160
Episode 1684, titled that no
guff, a nice throwback call back

1829
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:37,040
to the old times, old timey
language, no guff. And we didn't

1830
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:43,240
find a lot of very inspiring
art. And this was, yeah, I think

1831
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:46,840
we both said, Yeah, this is
good. And Dame Kenny Benn made a

1832
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:51,160
very simple piece, but nice,
nice font that she used kind of

1833
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:55,360
a, what is this? A typewriter
typewriter font? Is that? What

1834
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,120
this is? Yes, one of the
typewriter fonts, and she just

1835
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:02,340
put words on there. Bizarre,
quirky, wacky, kooky, no agenda.

1836
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:08,280
Adam curry, John C Dvorak,
functional. And, for my money,

1837
01:46:08,340 --> 01:46:11,700
very usable, because that was
what was playing in everybody's

1838
01:46:11,700 --> 01:46:16,200
mind, this weird word with Tim
waltz getting credited for it.

1839
01:46:16,380 --> 01:46:20,300
So it worked. It was spot on.
Now, there were other things,

1840
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:21,500
you

1841
01:46:21,500 --> 01:46:24,140
John C Dvorak: know, the thing
is, I remember I was pushing for

1842
01:46:24,140 --> 01:46:30,800
package filtered, yes, you were
from Sir Shug. I thought it

1843
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:31,100
would be

1844
01:46:31,100 --> 01:46:32,120
Adam Curry: misunderstood. I

1845
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,220
John C Dvorak: don't think you
didn't like it at all. You hated

1846
01:46:34,220 --> 01:46:34,400
it. I

1847
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:35,240
Adam Curry: didn't hate it. I

1848
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,280
John C Dvorak: just said I
pulled rank. And said, we're

1849
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,800
gonna do bizarre, quirky, wacky
cookie. I

1850
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:43,360
Adam Curry: did not pull rank.
You keep. This is a lie. It's a

1851
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:47,500
string of lies. You keep. You
keep stringing up. It's no good.

1852
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,700
John C Dvorak: I eventually
agreed that, you know that the

1853
01:46:51,700 --> 01:46:54,340
Well, there was a lot of we
haven't done, we haven't done a

1854
01:46:54,340 --> 01:47:01,080
pure font or type true cover for
years. We have not, and they,

1855
01:47:01,260 --> 01:47:04,380
they're very kind. This is a
good it's, it's legit. So

1856
01:47:04,440 --> 01:47:06,840
Adam Curry: it was very legit.
It was, it was super legit. It

1857
01:47:06,900 --> 01:47:11,580
was good. It was good. And I
liked it. I liked it. Um, a lot

1858
01:47:11,580 --> 01:47:16,680
of AI, again, AI. I mean, it's
just going down. There was a big

1859
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:23,660
study that came out let me see,
um, adverse impacts of revealing

1860
01:47:23,660 --> 01:47:26,720
the presence of artificial
intelligence technology in

1861
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:31,640
product and service descriptions
on purchase intentions, colon

1862
01:47:32,180 --> 01:47:36,560
the mediating role of emotional
trust and the moderating role of

1863
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:42,100
perceived Risk. Synopsis,
according to CNN. Brands should

1864
01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:47,440
avoid this popular term. It's
turning off customers. So people

1865
01:47:47,440 --> 01:47:50,200
do according to the study, this
is the journal of hospitality,

1866
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:54,580
marketing and management, but
they did have 5000 people in the

1867
01:47:54,580 --> 01:48:01,380
study. AI, is not a good thing
to promoting your product. Take

1868
01:48:01,380 --> 01:48:03,960
that Apple iPhone, of course
they they have Apple

1869
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:05,520
intelligence, which is
different,

1870
01:48:07,740 --> 01:48:11,760
John C Dvorak: but they can see
this being a fact, it's annoying

1871
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:14,580
to hear it all the time,
constantly. Ai, this AI that,

1872
01:48:14,580 --> 01:48:16,260
you know, it's bogus, yeah,

1873
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,840
Adam Curry: most of it isn't AI.
It's just some algorithm or

1874
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:26,360
something. Yeah, exactly, but
people are turned off by it, so

1875
01:48:27,140 --> 01:48:33,920
no good. Good job. Tim Cook, see
how that works out for you. And

1876
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:37,160
of course, because this also
sucks. I mean, most AI art just

1877
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:38,000
is no good.

1878
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,580
John C Dvorak: I like the AI art
that came in that has a picture

1879
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:48,580
of of it's called cuddly Timmy,
and it's a bear

1880
01:48:49,480 --> 01:48:52,660
Adam Curry: came in today that
that isn't by drop co

1881
01:48:52,660 --> 01:48:56,260
John C Dvorak: I think it came
in before Today, because I saw

1882
01:48:56,860 --> 01:48:57,700
submitted,

1883
01:48:59,380 --> 01:49:03,360
Adam Curry: july 11. July 11.
What? Yeah,

1884
01:49:03,660 --> 01:49:04,920
John C Dvorak: seems to be
inaccurate.

1885
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:09,060
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think
everything seems like it's July.

1886
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:11,220
So I think it came in today,
August 11.

1887
01:49:11,820 --> 01:49:15,060
John C Dvorak: That does seem
well, whenever it came in. I'm

1888
01:49:15,060 --> 01:49:16,560
pretty sure I saw it yesterday
or

1889
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:18,480
Adam Curry: the day before,
yeah, but not, not on a show.

1890
01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:21,020
Day. It wasn't, wasn't on a
show. It wasn't. But whatever

1891
01:49:21,020 --> 01:49:21,140
the

1892
01:49:21,140 --> 01:49:23,240
John C Dvorak: case, I just like
it because it looks like that

1893
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:29,180
guy, Tim, the tampon. Tim, it
looks like him and it's but it's

1894
01:49:29,180 --> 01:49:32,660
a cuddly teddy bear looking
thing. I don't know what prompts

1895
01:49:32,660 --> 01:49:37,160
he did to get that to work, but
I thought it was very funny

1896
01:49:37,340 --> 01:49:39,080
personally. And it's all AI

1897
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:42,580
Adam Curry: well so far. I mean,
by the way, artists, jury is

1898
01:49:42,580 --> 01:49:46,420
still out. I'm not, I'm not all
in, like John is yet, and all I

1899
01:49:46,420 --> 01:49:54,760
see is AI stuff. More AI, stop
it. Clip, custodian just did a

1900
01:49:54,760 --> 01:50:02,040
pixel. Mike, there's the anti AI
art. Okay. I. Well, even prompt

1901
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:05,640
jockeys are appreciated here. No
agenda, Art generator.com,

1902
01:50:06,060 --> 01:50:09,660
everybody can everybody can
participate. You can play along

1903
01:50:10,140 --> 01:50:13,320
while you're listening. You can
see what people are uploading.

1904
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,900
It's always fun to see what
artists think is going to catch

1905
01:50:15,900 --> 01:50:19,380
our attention. I'm very anti AI.
And when it comes to art, it

1906
01:50:19,380 --> 01:50:23,240
just all looks kind of the same.
It's like, okay, and you can use

1907
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,400
it as a good, as a tool, you can
use it as a tool,

1908
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,340
John C Dvorak: but it's just a
bigot. You're bigoted. Yes, I

1909
01:50:28,340 --> 01:50:32,840
Adam Curry: am AI bigoted. A, i,
b, I G, o, t, I am a, I bigot.

1910
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:37,640
That's correct. So thank you
very much. Dame Kenny Benn,

1911
01:50:37,700 --> 01:50:42,100
another fine Dutch master of the
arts. Now, let's thank our

1912
01:50:42,100 --> 01:50:45,340
producers who came in with the
treasure of the time, talent

1913
01:50:45,340 --> 01:50:49,840
treasure equation. Now, of
course, we appreciate anyone who

1914
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,480
gives up their Starbucks to
support the show. You can do it

1915
01:50:52,480 --> 01:50:55,060
for every single episode. You
can do sustaining. Donate

1916
01:50:55,060 --> 01:50:59,920
donations. Go to no agenda
donations.com we do like to

1917
01:50:59,920 --> 01:51:02,940
highlight, just like Hollywood,
our executive and Associate

1918
01:51:02,940 --> 01:51:05,700
Executive producers, that's why
you get a credit. The credit is

1919
01:51:05,700 --> 01:51:09,720
usable anywhere. Credits are
recognized your your LinkedIn

1920
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:14,340
profile, you can use it there as
something for your resume, or

1921
01:51:14,340 --> 01:51:18,840
even open an IMDB account if you
don't have one and $200 above

1922
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,680
gets you an Associate Executive
Producer, we read your note,

1923
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:25,520
$300 and above. Executive
producer, and we read your note.

1924
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:28,580
And am I reading this correctly?
That sir cross threaded wheel

1925
01:51:28,580 --> 01:51:35,120
stud came in, then saved the
week? Yeah, wow.

1926
01:51:35,180 --> 01:51:37,700
John C Dvorak: It's actually
three. He considers this. And we

1927
01:51:37,700 --> 01:51:40,780
have to obviously credit three
people. Three donations, yes,

1928
01:51:40,780 --> 01:51:44,140
three donations of 11, 111,
1.11,

1929
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:47,560
Adam Curry: but if you, if you
do a 333,

1930
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,720
what is it? Three? This is a
rebel as a donation,

1931
01:51:57,580 --> 01:52:02,880
John C Dvorak: 3333 33
rubbliser, yeah, India.

1932
01:52:03,060 --> 01:52:04,080
Unknown: Hang out. Mike,

1933
01:52:05,340 --> 01:52:06,840
standby, 3333

1934
01:52:08,700 --> 01:52:11,640
33 Rob Eliza, out.

1935
01:52:12,060 --> 01:52:12,660
Now, I

1936
01:52:12,660 --> 01:52:16,020
Adam Curry: don't know now, is
He? Is this a new guy being

1937
01:52:16,020 --> 01:52:20,720
knighted as Sir cross threaded
wheel stud, because I don't

1938
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,780
believe so I don't remember this
name. I'll read his note here,

1939
01:52:24,020 --> 01:52:27,440
which is pen. We have him on the
List of United we do not. That's

1940
01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:31,220
why I'm questioning it. Ah, so
Okay, there we have a conundrum.

1941
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:35,660
Well, I mean, I don't have his
name. He says, Well, here's

1942
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,660
Okay, here's why I thought he
should be on the list. ITM two

1943
01:52:38,660 --> 01:52:45,640
Switcheroos, 11111, 11111 for my
sweet sister, Dame Cece. 1111111

1944
01:52:47,260 --> 01:52:54,400
for Reed hot, hotly Huntley, in
honor of his late father, who

1945
01:52:54,400 --> 01:53:00,100
was my cousin and a help to
them.

1946
01:53:00,340 --> 01:53:01,980
John C Dvorak: I can help to
all.

1947
01:53:02,220 --> 01:53:05,220
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, help to
all. Selfishly, I take credit

1948
01:53:05,220 --> 01:53:11,580
for 111111, please award me the
title of Sir cross threaded

1949
01:53:11,580 --> 01:53:16,080
wheel stud. Thanks for sharing
your insights. So I know he

1950
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:18,900
needs to be knighted, okay, but
I don't know his name, so we

1951
01:53:18,900 --> 01:53:20,840
just say congratulations. Well,
he

1952
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:23,000
John C Dvorak: does, since he
didn't, I mean, it's on the

1953
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:25,880
check, I can go get his name,
but since he didn't put it on

1954
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:29,360
his note, I assume that he wants
not to be known by his name, but

1955
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,760
by Sir cross wheel stud. Well,

1956
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:35,000
Adam Curry: he will be knighted
today, and I think appropriately

1957
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:38,120
so. And we thank you very, very
much. I'm gonna just throw out a

1958
01:53:38,180 --> 01:53:39,980
gratuitous karma for him. That's
awesome.

1959
01:53:40,100 --> 01:53:41,800
Unknown: You've got karma.

1960
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:54,400
John C Dvorak: Onward with Sir
Victor in Corvallis, Oregon,

1961
01:53:54,400 --> 01:54:00,400
673, 71 with this donation of
640, plus fees, I'm upgrading

1962
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:03,000
from Baronet to Baron, all
right, and you're on the list

1963
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:07,680
for the upgrade and my new
title, Sir Victor, Sir Victor,

1964
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:11,520
the Baron of the Willamette
Valley in Corvallis Orion. Okay,

1965
01:54:11,580 --> 01:54:12,060
we got you.

1966
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:14,820
Adam Curry: Thank you, Sir
Victor, Sir Jack ash in

1967
01:54:14,820 --> 01:54:20,840
Snohomish, Washington, 388 dot
88 and this is a congratulations

1968
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:23,720
for John and Mimi. ITM gents,
congrats to John and Mimi. Very

1969
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:27,800
respectfully, Sir Jack ash and
we thank you, Sir Jack ash,

1970
01:54:30,740 --> 01:54:32,600
John C Dvorak: this one here
blows up my spreadsheet. You

1971
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:33,560
might want to take it, sir

1972
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:38,420
Adam Curry: Matthew in Hanover,
Pennsylvania, 333, 42 he says,

1973
01:54:38,420 --> 01:54:41,320
I've been a man overboard for
too long. My last donation was

1974
01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:43,840
in 2017 please deduce me.

1975
01:54:45,460 --> 01:54:47,680
Unknown: You've been deduced. I
have been

1976
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,140
Adam Curry: back listening for
the last six weeks or so, since

1977
01:54:50,140 --> 01:54:53,200
before the assassination attempt
on Trump. With this being a

1978
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:56,080
momentous year in my life, I'm
requesting some various forms of

1979
01:54:56,080 --> 01:55:02,580
karma. Okay, on July 24 I turn.
40 july 29 I celebrated 18 years

1980
01:55:02,580 --> 01:55:06,840
of marriage to my wonderful
wife. I also made my wife filet

1981
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:12,900
John. Steak o Poivre with, oh,
John's No, I also made my wife

1982
01:55:12,900 --> 01:55:16,860
filet John. I guess that's it.
Steak, OK with roasted he

1983
01:55:16,860 --> 01:55:24,620
fileted you. She fileted you. I
don't know. Steak. Or poi with

1984
01:55:24,620 --> 01:55:28,760
roasted sweet potatoes. Risotto.
After a battle with our local

1985
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:31,280
school district over the
placement of my youngest son, we

1986
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:34,040
got an autism support classroom
open where they should already

1987
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:37,100
have where they should already
have had one after 15 years

1988
01:55:37,100 --> 01:55:39,980
working with my in laws as a
financial advisor, we have begun

1989
01:55:39,980 --> 01:55:44,080
ownership transition so they can
finally retire. A big hiring

1990
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:47,800
karma please as we search for an
additional license advisor to

1991
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:51,460
help support our clients, thanks
for all that you both continue

1992
01:55:51,460 --> 01:55:54,580
to do. Glad to be back at the
table enjoying a nice old

1993
01:55:54,580 --> 01:56:00,360
fashioned Adam dealer's choice
of jingles, please. That blows

1994
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:01,620
out my spreadsheet too.

1995
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:06,960
John C Dvorak: He says, the ones
I put together for my knighthood

1996
01:56:07,020 --> 01:56:08,340
were a nightmare.

1997
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,420
Adam Curry: Sir Matthew, a
knight Since 2017 one of the

1998
01:56:12,420 --> 01:56:17,040
founding producers back in 2010
PS, in 2023 I was diagnosed with

1999
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:21,620
celiac disease and ADHD. So that
was fun. Unfortunately, I did

2000
01:56:21,620 --> 01:56:25,340
the moderna covid vaccine in
2020 which triggered the celiac

2001
01:56:25,340 --> 01:56:29,900
maybe, maybe anything is
possible. Do you have a you have

2002
01:56:29,900 --> 01:56:31,760
a jingle that you'd like to play
for him?

2003
01:56:32,780 --> 01:56:36,020
John C Dvorak: I think we've
have, have not played the share

2004
01:56:36,020 --> 01:56:37,580
a secret jingle forever.

2005
01:56:38,300 --> 01:56:42,400
Adam Curry: Okay, okay, let's
play the share secret jingle.

2006
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:42,700
Oh,

2007
01:56:42,700 --> 01:56:45,160
Unknown: there's no winning. We
don't like to foster a

2008
01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:49,060
competitive atmosphere, but we
laugh a lot now. Everyone hug

2009
01:56:49,060 --> 01:56:50,320
and share a secret. Yeah,

2010
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,080
Adam Curry: good choice. Enemy
and a karma. You did need some

2011
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:55,060
karma, but give him that you've
got

2012
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:55,900
Unknown: karma.

2013
01:56:59,260 --> 01:57:04,140
John C Dvorak: Onward with
surfer. Pursuit of peace and

2014
01:57:04,140 --> 01:57:08,160
tranquility of three, three,
3.33. He sent a note. In keeping

2015
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:12,780
it simple, ITM, he says,
donation for August, 33333, love

2016
01:57:12,780 --> 01:57:17,220
the show. Please grant me the
title of Viscount per accounting

2017
01:57:17,220 --> 01:57:20,420
below, and he's got all the
accounting. Adam, please throw

2018
01:57:20,420 --> 01:57:24,560
in a penny to align my total
donations with the universe.

2019
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:29,600
There it is. No jingles, no
karma. Sincerely, sir, pursuit

2020
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:33,920
of peace and tranquility in the
lands of red clay and cherry

2021
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:37,520
trees beautiful, and he's got a
lot of numbers that he's added

2022
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:37,760
up.

2023
01:57:37,820 --> 01:57:40,600
Adam Curry: Hey, there's there's
Jason rich. I know Jason rich,

2024
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:44,800
he's a rancher. He's a good
rancher. Called up in Colorado,

2025
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:48,700
I want to say, let's read his
note, 333, ITM gents, longtime

2026
01:57:48,700 --> 01:57:52,060
listener, second time donor,
yes. Our regenerative ranching

2027
01:57:52,060 --> 01:57:55,060
business, which includes direct
to consumer beef and hogs, one

2028
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:58,120
of the founding members of the
beef initiative, now also

2029
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:03,720
includes agritourism, farm stays
and are on farm store. Our

2030
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,360
August and September bookings
have fallen off, so we are

2031
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:11,220
offering a 20% 20% discount to
no agenda listeners with code

2032
01:58:11,220 --> 01:58:15,720
ITM 20 on our booking website,
rich ranches. Dot, holiday

2033
01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:21,620
future.com that's W, R, I, C, H,
R, a, n, C, H, E, S, rich

2034
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:26,300
ranches. Dot holiday future.com,
come visit western Colorado,

2035
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:30,380
enjoy local food and wine. Shake
your rancher's hand and support

2036
01:58:30,380 --> 01:58:33,500
a small, regenerative ranch.
Thank you for your courage.

2037
01:58:33,500 --> 01:58:37,640
Jason and Theresa. Rich, Rick.
He says Rick, I always pronounce

2038
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:41,260
it rich, but I guess it's Rick.
And he has you can also find him

2039
01:58:41,260 --> 01:58:45,400
on Airbnb. That's so nice. Thank
you very much. Jason and I met

2040
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:49,720
him at White Oak pastures in in
Georgia, when I went down there,

2041
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,640
nice guy. I'll give them both a
karma.

2042
01:58:52,060 --> 01:58:53,800
Unknown: You've got karma.

2043
01:58:55,540 --> 01:58:58,000
John C Dvorak: We have another
long note from anonymous in St

2044
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:04,740
John's, Arizona. 202. I started
listening to no agenda in 2017

2045
01:59:05,220 --> 01:59:07,980
is my fourth donation. I think
the reason no agenda donations

2046
01:59:07,980 --> 01:59:10,680
are down is no agenda has a lot
more competition from

2047
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,620
independent Dissident Voices
over the last couple of years,

2048
01:59:13,620 --> 01:59:18,420
thanks mainly to rumble and x
and even YouTube, as they're

2049
01:59:18,420 --> 01:59:19,980
relaxing their censorship.

2050
01:59:19,980 --> 01:59:22,760
Adam Curry: Oh, please. YouTube
is censoring people left and

2051
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:23,540
right,

2052
01:59:26,180 --> 01:59:28,040
John C Dvorak: which gives,
brings us to the bonus clip,

2053
01:59:28,220 --> 01:59:29,000
yeah,

2054
01:59:29,300 --> 01:59:32,240
Adam Curry: yeah. This was kind
of a sad moment.

2055
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:33,620
Unknown: Long time, Google,

2056
01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:36,920
Adam Curry: I got it. I'm sorry.
I got it. Okay, one more time.

2057
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:38,480
Let's just pretend we didn't do
any

2058
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:41,080
Unknown: of that. Long time
Google executive and former

2059
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:46,180
YouTube CEO Susan wojcick has
died. She had lung cancer. She

2060
01:59:46,180 --> 01:59:49,720
played a key role in the success
of Google, coming on as one of

2061
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:53,320
the first employees after
renting her garage to Google's

2062
01:59:53,320 --> 01:59:57,340
founders for almost a decade,
wojcick was the head of YouTube,

2063
01:59:57,340 --> 02:00:00,720
which she had urged Google to
acquire. Susan. Susan wojcick,

2064
02:00:00,900 --> 02:00:04,560
also a wife and mother of five,
was 56 years old.

2065
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:08,160
Adam Curry: 56 man. Lung cancer
is the worst. My mom died

2066
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:11,580
John C Dvorak: of lung cancer.
Yeah, kind of a Turbo version.

2067
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:12,660
Yes.

2068
02:00:12,660 --> 02:00:15,540
Adam Curry: It took, yeah. My
mom was alive a lot longer than

2069
02:00:15,540 --> 02:00:20,040
Susan's sickness that went very,
very fast. Turbo, gee. And she

2070
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:23,300
really like censoring all of
that misinformation about covid

2071
02:00:23,300 --> 02:00:27,320
and vaccines. Yep, don't want to
say anything about it. Little

2072
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:30,200
John C Dvorak: irony there. But
yeah, it's not the time to speak

2073
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:35,180
ill of the dead. No, no, sir.
Um, that said no. Agenda is

2074
02:00:35,180 --> 02:00:37,400
still my go to source for
reliable, independent

2075
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:39,800
information. What's really going
on in the world? You guys have a

2076
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:44,140
serious you guys have serious
competition these days, and

2077
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:48,940
almost every other source I
follow is utilizing value for

2078
02:00:48,940 --> 02:00:52,300
value, but all in all, you guys
are still the best, okay,

2079
02:00:52,300 --> 02:00:55,960
however, value for value is
spreading, and those of us are

2080
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:58,780
willing to financially support
quality work, we spread much

2081
02:00:58,780 --> 02:01:01,980
thinner than we were even two or
three years ago. Well,

2082
02:01:01,980 --> 02:01:05,580
Adam Curry: hold on a second, it
would be just dandy if everybody

2083
02:01:05,580 --> 02:01:08,280
had a sustaining donation. You
can lower the amount, but

2084
02:01:08,700 --> 02:01:12,300
everyone spreads it out. That's
a pipe dream, but that would be

2085
02:01:12,300 --> 02:01:14,820
good, but people don't do that.
No,

2086
02:01:16,260 --> 02:01:18,780
John C Dvorak: I took Adam's
advice and refused to have my

2087
02:01:18,780 --> 02:01:22,340
photo taken by TSA on a recent
flight from Phoenix to Oakland,

2088
02:01:22,700 --> 02:01:25,520
I've already been photographed
for their facial identity

2089
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:28,220
database. However, the
sneakiness of this program is

2090
02:01:28,220 --> 02:01:33,200
what caused me to refuse
continued participation. The TSA

2091
02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:37,220
agent told me no problem and
just made sure my ID matched my

2092
02:01:37,220 --> 02:01:40,960
boarding pass. However, when I
went through the hands up. Don't

2093
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:45,100
shoot computer screening. I was
flagged for suspicious items in

2094
02:01:45,100 --> 02:01:49,600
both my crotch and buttocks
area. Hey, what's that? Patted

2095
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:53,080
down like a criminal. I
complained to TSA supervisors,

2096
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:57,940
but to no avail. Good luck. The
flight was then delayed. In my

2097
02:01:57,940 --> 02:02:01,740
honest opinion, due to my non
compliance, I have good reason

2098
02:02:01,740 --> 02:02:05,220
to believe TSA was reviewing the
video from my encounter, trying

2099
02:02:05,220 --> 02:02:09,420
to determine if they had reason
to ban me from my flight.

2100
02:02:09,540 --> 02:02:11,940
Eventually, they cleared the
flight for boarding, and I was

2101
02:02:11,940 --> 02:02:15,060
able to board without incident,
although I had, it's a chilling

2102
02:02:15,060 --> 02:02:18,240
effect, by the way, without
incident, although I had airline

2103
02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:21,740
personnel giving me suspicious
looks during the process, What's

2104
02:02:21,740 --> 02:02:22,820
Adam Curry: that in your crotch?

2105
02:02:25,700 --> 02:02:28,520
John C Dvorak: My father grew up
in El Cerrito. We took the ride

2106
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:31,640
there. During my trip to the
bear, I talked about John and

2107
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:34,880
Adam with my parents many times,
jokingly, acting like I actually

2108
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:37,940
knew you guys. Obviously I
don't, but sometimes it feels

2109
02:02:37,940 --> 02:02:40,660
that way from being a long time
listen to the podcast. Oh yeah.

2110
02:02:41,140 --> 02:02:44,620
And he says I was disappointed I
missed the Bay Area meetup and

2111
02:02:44,620 --> 02:02:47,980
half jokingly told my parents
that we should try to find

2112
02:02:47,980 --> 02:02:52,420
John's house and stop by. Yeah,
I'm sure John would be happy to

2113
02:02:52,420 --> 02:02:55,420
hear that my parents talked me
out of this.

2114
02:02:56,740 --> 02:03:00,660
Adam Curry: What are you
packing? Anonymous? Anyway.

2115
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:07,560
Thank you very much. Dan
Richmond, Al Kuwa, altua,

2116
02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:08,220
Florida.

2117
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:11,640
John C Dvorak: Been a while.
Ella, Ella

2118
02:03:12,900 --> 02:03:15,660
Adam Curry: Alachua, there you
go. Thank you for something like

2119
02:03:15,660 --> 02:03:22,520
that. $200.66 been a while,
guys, please deduce you've been

2120
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:27,740
deduced. Adam, you were in the
recent Bon Jovi documentary on

2121
02:03:27,740 --> 02:03:34,940
Hulu, filmed in two 2022 to 2023
Yes, hopefully. I was credited

2122
02:03:34,940 --> 02:03:41,500
as VJ emeritus. It featured Jon
Bon Jovi constantly surrounded

2123
02:03:41,500 --> 02:03:48,100
by masked servants. Not only
that, he's also lost his voice

2124
02:03:48,160 --> 02:03:52,480
and his mind. Sad, yeah, if you
just go on YouTube and look for

2125
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:56,260
Jon, Bon Jovi lost his voice.
Oh, man. I

2126
02:03:56,260 --> 02:03:57,040
John C Dvorak: mean, happened?
Oh,

2127
02:03:57,580 --> 02:03:59,500
Adam Curry: he can't sing
anymore. He can't he can't hit

2128
02:03:59,500 --> 02:04:00,180
the notes. Did

2129
02:04:00,180 --> 02:04:02,580
John C Dvorak: he blow his vocal
cords out from the screaming?

2130
02:04:02,700 --> 02:04:05,220
Adam Curry: I think so. I mean,
he just can't. It was a

2131
02:04:06,660 --> 02:04:09,240
Unknown: living on a prayer.
He's like, Oh,

2132
02:04:11,340 --> 02:04:14,280
Adam Curry: it's no good.
Everyone, everyone in South

2133
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:17,520
Jersey is talking about it. Hey,
man, Johnny lost. His voice is

2134
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:21,620
set when you're a singer. That
sucks. Yeah, I would think

2135
02:04:21,860 --> 02:04:24,200
John C Dvorak: that really does.
Boys put a lot of strain on his

2136
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:26,720
voice, but it could happen. PG,
Kelly's next on the list. He's

2137
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:31,700
in Los Angeles, California, 200
bucks, Adam John and the rest of

2138
02:04:31,700 --> 02:04:35,300
the no agenda. Listeners, I come
to you in great need. Many of

2139
02:04:35,300 --> 02:04:38,480
you already know that I lost my
sister. PG, Chris, Linda, one

2140
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:40,600
year ago today, I've been
working with attorneys, and

2141
02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:45,640
finally found out that does I
find? Found one that does both

2142
02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:49,480
medical records reviews as well
as medical malpractice, wrongful

2143
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:54,700
death long suits, if wrongdoing
is found. There are many odd

2144
02:04:54,700 --> 02:04:58,120
issues with Linda's care in the
Hollywood Presbyterian Medical

2145
02:04:58,120 --> 02:05:02,340
Center. In Question, two. And
question that questions. It's

2146
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:05,700
what it should say that need
investigating. My attorney is

2147
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:09,480
anxious to get started. However,
I spend all my money, I reach

2148
02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:12,900
out to you and help with raising
funds so I can move in the next

2149
02:05:12,900 --> 02:05:16,200
step, the medical records
review, donate, promote, share

2150
02:05:16,200 --> 02:05:20,600
the link, whatever you can do to
get the word out. And it's help

2151
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:24,560
fund Linda's extensive medical
records review, and it's, I

2152
02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:26,120
never heard of this operation.

2153
02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:28,640
Adam Curry: Give, send, go,
yeah, it's the Christian

2154
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:31,640
crowdfunding site. Gibson. Oh,
gives,

2155
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:34,820
John C Dvorak: send to go
justice for Linda with a Y, uh,

2156
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:38,660
prayers are welcome. Bless you
all. PG, Kelly. PG,

2157
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:41,200
Adam Curry: he's been listening
to the show, I think from the

2158
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:45,040
from Show, episode number one,
he's been around, been around

2159
02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:47,740
for a long, long time. All
right. All right, brother. We

2160
02:05:47,740 --> 02:05:52,180
hope that works out. It's uh,
give sango.com/justice number

2161
02:05:52,180 --> 02:05:56,740
for Linda with a Y. And there's
another Linda John. You might as

2162
02:05:56,740 --> 02:05:58,240
well, uh, Linda

2163
02:05:58,540 --> 02:06:01,140
John C Dvorak: Lou patkin shows
up. She's in Lakewood, Colorado,

2164
02:06:01,140 --> 02:06:05,220
believe it or not, and she says
she would like some jobs karma.

2165
02:06:05,460 --> 02:06:12,120
And then she says for a resume
that gets resume, resume, resume

2166
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:16,560
that gets results. Visit image
makers. Inc.com, your go to for

2167
02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:20,240
all your executive resume and
job search needs as image

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makers, Inc, with a K and work
with Linda Lou Dutchess of jobs

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and resume, and writer of
resumes. And she's good.

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Everyone likes her jobs,

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02:06:31,820 --> 02:06:36,020
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

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02:06:38,420 --> 02:06:39,980
You've got karma

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02:06:39,980 --> 02:06:43,540
Adam Curry: that little freeze.
Hey, that's it. Don't know we

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02:06:43,540 --> 02:06:47,020
have one more. Joshua Parker in
Round Rock, Texas, 200 Associate

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02:06:47,020 --> 02:06:49,900
Executive producer. He says,
Keep up the great work. I'm just

2176
02:06:49,900 --> 02:06:53,260
chipping in for some that, some
of that sweet, sweet jobs karma.

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02:06:53,500 --> 02:06:56,320
Josh Parker from Austin, Thank
you, Josh jobs,

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02:06:56,500 --> 02:06:59,020
Unknown: jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs

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02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:05,280
Adam Curry: karma. There. You
go. That's our list of executive

2180
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:08,040
and Associate Executive
producers. We appreciate you all

2181
02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:11,100
very, very much. These credits
are real, as I said earlier, and

2182
02:07:11,100 --> 02:07:13,860
of course, we'll be thanking
everybody above $50 we don't go

2183
02:07:13,860 --> 02:07:16,740
below that for reasons of
anonymity, but we appreciate

2184
02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:20,300
everyone who does a sustaining
donation. You can give up at

2185
02:07:20,300 --> 02:07:23,360
least one Starbucks for the
show. Think about it four more

2186
02:07:23,420 --> 02:07:26,540
years. Thank you all again for
supporting the show for Episode

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02:07:26,540 --> 02:07:26,960
1685,

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02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:32,180
Unknown: formula is this. We go
out. We hit people in the mouth.

2189
02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:51,640
Adam Curry: Shut up. I have a

2190
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:54,340
John C Dvorak: couple of clips
that probably liven things up.

2191
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:57,940
Okay, it's about deep fake porn.

2192
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:00,180
Unknown: Well, it's about time.

2193
02:08:01,500 --> 02:08:05,460
Adam Curry: So, whereas we like
to say Veep fake,

2194
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:10,860
John C Dvorak: and so here we
go. There's a four parter. This

2195
02:08:10,860 --> 02:08:11,760
is from PBS.

2196
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:15,480
Adam Curry: What a four parter
on PBS?

2197
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:20,160
Unknown: Yeah, PBS. Wow. Who
expected that?

2198
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:25,640
John C Dvorak: That's fake porn.
PBS is the first clip sexual

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02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:29,120
Unknown: images posted online
without one's consent have long

2200
02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:33,680
been a problem, starting with
revenge porn, but deep fake and

2201
02:08:33,740 --> 02:08:37,460
AI technology's ability to
manipulate photos and even

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02:08:37,460 --> 02:08:41,440
videos has made things worse.
Even Taylor Swift has been a

2203
02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:46,540
victim of AI generated sexual
now, Google has announced new

2204
02:08:46,540 --> 02:08:49,720
steps to combat sexually
explicit deep fakes in their

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02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:53,500
search results, but there is no
one size fits all solution for

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02:08:53,500 --> 02:08:58,120
this complex problem. Paresh.
Dave is a senior writer at Wired

2207
02:08:58,120 --> 02:09:01,440
who's been reporting on all of
this and joins us now. Paresh,

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02:09:01,620 --> 02:09:05,400
thank you so much for joining
us. How quickly have we seen the

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02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:09,360
rise of non consensual sexual
images online, and what is

2210
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:10,680
driving this?

2211
02:09:10,860 --> 02:09:15,780
I mean, it's huge. It's a huge
problem. The doubling of these

2212
02:09:15,780 --> 02:09:18,600
reports over the last couple of
years is what we've been seeing

2213
02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:23,840
in places like the UK and the
US, and it's in part driven by

2214
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:25,640
those deep fakes that you were
talking about.

2215
02:09:25,820 --> 02:09:29,660
It is also driven in part by the
porn industry, right? And this

2216
02:09:29,660 --> 02:09:32,720
is all part of the porn economy.
Now. People are paying to

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02:09:32,720 --> 02:09:35,960
download images and videos of
this nature,

2218
02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:40,040
the non consensual nature, yes,
but I would draw a distinction

2219
02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:44,380
between porn and this non
consensual image based sexual

2220
02:09:44,380 --> 02:09:49,000
abuse, which is not considered
porn. You know, porn is

2221
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:51,700
generally viewed as more
consensual. Now

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02:09:52,180 --> 02:09:55,540
Adam Curry: I just want to say
one of our producers, Eric

2223
02:09:55,540 --> 02:09:59,920
pepper, decided he was going to
send me every single back issue.

2224
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:05,640
You of Wired magazine that he
possesses, which has been quite

2225
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:09,900
tedious. I go to the PO Box, and
the guy comes out with, like,

2226
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:15,180
what is this? Comes out with a
trolley, and Wired Magazine has

2227
02:10:15,180 --> 02:10:18,300
been wrong on just about every
single cover they have ever

2228
02:10:18,300 --> 02:10:23,540
published. Seriously, the web is
dead. This machine will change.

2229
02:10:23,540 --> 02:10:24,140
The world

2230
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:27,560
John C Dvorak: is dead. One pill
should you should take shots at

2231
02:10:27,560 --> 02:10:30,500
some of these covers and put
together a compendium to to

2232
02:10:30,500 --> 02:10:32,480
prove this point of yours that
you're making? Well,

2233
02:10:32,480 --> 02:10:34,400
Adam Curry: there's a lot of AI
stuff from 2002

2234
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:38,060
John C Dvorak: that was the,
yeah, okay.

2235
02:10:38,540 --> 02:10:41,200
Adam Curry: I mean, it's all,
it's all. Everything they've

2236
02:10:41,200 --> 02:10:44,560
done is wrong. So, okay, let's
hear about, let's hear

2237
02:10:44,620 --> 02:10:46,540
John C Dvorak: what the well,
that doesn't mean that this

2238
02:10:46,540 --> 02:10:50,380
guy's off. I actually was
skeptical of this character

2239
02:10:50,380 --> 02:10:52,960
because he came from Wired, but
then at the same time, he's

2240
02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:57,220
actually making some decent
points. Okay, he's It's okay.

2241
02:10:57,220 --> 02:10:57,700
It's okay.

2242
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:01,380
Adam Curry: Well, this, it's not
a cover, it's a PBS special.

2243
02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:05,520
Unknown: Yeah. Thank you.
According to the company

2244
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:10,980
sensitive, 96% of deep fakes are
sexually explicit and feature

2245
02:11:10,980 --> 02:11:15,300
women who didn't consent to the
creation of the content, who is

2246
02:11:15,300 --> 02:11:18,840
most vulnerable to being
victimized in this way,

2247
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:22,880
everyone. There's been recent
surveys that have shown it's

2248
02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:26,060
men. You know, it's young boys.
There's a huge trend of

2249
02:11:26,060 --> 02:11:29,900
sextortion that's been
happening. It's anyone that has

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02:11:29,900 --> 02:11:32,420
their photo on the internet,
which at this point is pretty

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02:11:32,420 --> 02:11:33,440
much all of us.

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02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:38,540
Google has said purash That it
will reduce the prominence and

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02:11:38,540 --> 02:11:43,900
relevance of deep fake images in
its searches that addresses deep

2254
02:11:43,900 --> 02:11:47,860
fakes, but what about actual
images that are used without

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02:11:47,860 --> 02:11:51,880
consent? Does Google go far
enough to address those victims?

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02:11:52,180 --> 02:11:54,940
So Google already takes those
measures that you described that

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02:11:54,940 --> 02:11:58,300
they've just recently applied to
deep fakes, but what it reported

2258
02:11:58,300 --> 02:12:01,620
recently is that the key issue
here is that there are numerous

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02:12:01,620 --> 02:12:05,400
ideas on the table that Google
could adopt to reduce the burden

2260
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:09,300
on victims of image based sexual
abuse. These are ideas proposed

2261
02:12:09,300 --> 02:12:14,220
by survivors, their advocates,
even employees within Google.

2262
02:12:14,340 --> 02:12:18,300
And Google has just refused to
adopt these ideas, in part

2263
02:12:18,300 --> 02:12:21,140
because they're worried about
over censorship, in part because

2264
02:12:21,140 --> 02:12:23,840
they're worried is coming off as
too much of a regulator of the

2265
02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:28,040
internet. But there are some
basic ideas here that is just

2266
02:12:28,040 --> 02:12:30,260
unfathomable. Why they haven't
pursued them.

2267
02:12:30,740 --> 02:12:34,400
Adam Curry: Well, if Google does
that, I'd say time to short your

2268
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:39,200
alphabet stock. Who wants to use
them now? No, good.

2269
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:41,980
John C Dvorak: Well, like you
said, you had them done Jack,

2270
02:12:41,980 --> 02:12:42,340
no,

2271
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:44,080
Adam Curry: the but they they're
threatening.

2272
02:12:46,360 --> 02:12:50,680
Unknown: Part three, you use
this term, image based sexual

2273
02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:55,480
abuse. Can you describe some of
what happens to victims who find

2274
02:12:55,480 --> 02:12:57,880
themselves in this situation?
Yeah.

2275
02:12:57,880 --> 02:13:01,500
I mean, it's people who might
send an image consensually. You

2276
02:13:01,500 --> 02:13:04,620
know that they've taken
themselves a selfie, and then

2277
02:13:04,620 --> 02:13:08,040
they've shared it with a friend,
and then you know that friend

2278
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:11,220
has seeking revenge. Something
goes wrong in that relationship.

2279
02:13:11,220 --> 02:13:14,340
They posted online. This could
be surreptitious recordings of

2280
02:13:14,340 --> 02:13:17,880
people. There's a number of ways
someone could be, you know,

2281
02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:21,020
suffering from this issue. And
then the big issue is then they

2282
02:13:21,020 --> 02:13:24,200
have to go to the place where
they were traumatized, go to the

2283
02:13:24,200 --> 02:13:27,200
internet and find all these
images, try to get it taken

2284
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:31,820
down. It's a lot of burden on
the actual victims or survivors

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02:13:31,820 --> 02:13:35,900
here to get rid of all this
material from the internet, and

2286
02:13:35,900 --> 02:13:38,720
it takes years and years
sometimes, well, that's

2287
02:13:38,720 --> 02:13:41,440
something that all of us,
parents deal with and we talk to

2288
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:44,860
our children. If your photo
shows up on online, it could be

2289
02:13:44,860 --> 02:13:49,120
there forever. How difficult is
the process for victims to take

2290
02:13:49,120 --> 02:13:53,260
this stuff down, and how willing
are the technology companies to

2291
02:13:53,260 --> 02:13:56,080
meet victims halfway and help
them? One

2292
02:13:56,080 --> 02:13:58,360
of the things that's remarkable
here is that there's a whole

2293
02:13:58,360 --> 02:14:02,400
cottage industry of companies
that have popped up, charging

2294
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:06,180
sometimes 1000s of dollars, you
know, per sort of project or

2295
02:14:06,180 --> 02:14:11,040
initiative to help victims get
their images taken down. So this

2296
02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:14,280
problem is so bad that there's
like an economy that has been

2297
02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:18,180
created around it, and these
companies help the victims find

2298
02:14:18,180 --> 02:14:22,700
the images. They even use AI to
automatically find the images as

2299
02:14:22,700 --> 02:14:26,540
they pop up, immediately, send
take down notices. But it is but

2300
02:14:26,540 --> 02:14:29,840
it is a pain. Sometimes
companies will ask for identity

2301
02:14:29,900 --> 02:14:33,620
verification, so you have to
send them your ID, or they might

2302
02:14:33,680 --> 02:14:37,640
question whether it was
actually, you know, non

2303
02:14:37,640 --> 02:14:41,320
consensual. You know, maybe
you've been an only fans

2304
02:14:41,320 --> 02:14:45,040
creator, and then you have, you
know, images of yourself leaked

2305
02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:48,160
online. You know, Google. My
question, Well, are you still

2306
02:14:48,160 --> 02:14:51,040
commercializing those images?
It's a whole mess that these

2307
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:53,320
survivors have to go through.
Sounds

2308
02:14:53,320 --> 02:14:55,960
Adam Curry: to me like this guy
is an only fans creator,

2309
02:14:59,620 --> 02:15:01,500
John C Dvorak: that's. Finish it
up, besides

2310
02:15:01,500 --> 02:15:04,680
Unknown: tech companies, who
else can be addressing this

2311
02:15:04,680 --> 02:15:07,980
problem? Is this a law
enforcement and regulatory

2312
02:15:07,980 --> 02:15:10,200
policy problem as well?

2313
02:15:10,740 --> 02:15:14,160
Absolutely. One of the things
that I heard consistently from

2314
02:15:14,340 --> 02:15:18,000
employees at Google and
reporting my story was that, why

2315
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:21,080
aren't law enforcement doing
more to go after the criminals.

2316
02:15:21,080 --> 02:15:25,460
Why haven't we criminalized work
to do more of this behavior

2317
02:15:26,540 --> 02:15:28,880
across the country? There's, you
know, most states have

2318
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:33,320
criminalized aspects of this,
but there's certainly not enough

2319
02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:35,840
effort from law enforcement to
go after the underlying

2320
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:39,200
criminals, in part because, you
know, sometimes they may be

2321
02:15:39,200 --> 02:15:43,000
overseas, or even when they are
brought to justice, you can't

2322
02:15:43,000 --> 02:15:45,760
actually maybe get them in jail
or get them to pay up the

2323
02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:47,920
damages that they're supposed to
that

2324
02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:51,880
is Paresh devay, a senior editor
at Wired, joining us. Thanks so

2325
02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:53,740
much, Paresh. Gosh,

2326
02:15:53,740 --> 02:15:56,500
Adam Curry: I'd hope there'd be
some kind of big payoff on that

2327
02:15:56,500 --> 02:15:56,800
one.

2328
02:15:58,840 --> 02:16:02,760
John C Dvorak: No, it was just a
flop. It was a dud, like it

2329
02:16:02,760 --> 02:16:05,280
ended off it the cops didn't do
anything. And there's you're

2330
02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:08,640
gonna take years to get rid. It
sounds like a, like a ridiculous

2331
02:16:08,640 --> 02:16:11,760
situation that probably wouldn't
exist at the porn laws. In fact,

2332
02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:17,640
in general, if there were, were
a little more, I'd say it's like

2333
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:18,840
they were in the 50s.

2334
02:16:19,380 --> 02:16:21,920
Adam Curry: Oh, is that's what
you want a very popular stance.

2335
02:16:22,640 --> 02:16:23,300
It's not

2336
02:16:23,300 --> 02:16:26,240
John C Dvorak: popular and it's
not what I want. I'm just saying

2337
02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:29,120
that that would solve the
problem. Let me

2338
02:16:29,120 --> 02:16:31,940
Adam Curry: do a couple other AI
stories I have to the first one

2339
02:16:31,940 --> 02:16:33,800
is in your backyard, new at 11.

2340
02:16:33,800 --> 02:16:36,200
Unknown: They say their
neighbors are too noisy, only

2341
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:40,040
the new neighbors aren't people.
They're way more cars honking in

2342
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:42,940
a parking lot, and neighbors say
it's keeping them up all night.

2343
02:16:42,940 --> 02:16:45,760
NBC Bay Area's Alyssa Gord shows
us what they're seeing, and

2344
02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:48,160
hearing that sound honking

2345
02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:50,980
is waking up neighbors lately,
in this South of Market

2346
02:16:50,980 --> 02:16:52,600
neighborhood, I

2347
02:16:52,599 --> 02:16:55,599
get woken up at, you know, four
o'clock in the morning, and I

2348
02:16:55,599 --> 02:16:59,439
look down and I'm convinced now
it is coming from the way most

2349
02:16:59,499 --> 02:16:59,919
neighbors

2350
02:16:59,919 --> 02:17:03,479
shared videos of driverless
Waymo cars filing into the lot

2351
02:17:03,479 --> 02:17:07,319
and backing into spots, which
appears to trigger honking from

2352
02:17:07,319 --> 02:17:09,719
the other way, most the cars

2353
02:17:09,719 --> 02:17:12,539
are robotic, and they're honking
at each other, and there's no

2354
02:17:12,539 --> 02:17:15,899
one in the cars when it's
happening. And that's absurd.

2355
02:17:15,899 --> 02:17:18,599
That I think is the most
frustrating thing apart about

2356
02:17:18,599 --> 02:17:21,679
this is that there's just nobody
to talk to, and even at the

2357
02:17:21,679 --> 02:17:26,479
corporate level, I'm finding it
difficult, not impossible.

2358
02:17:26,539 --> 02:17:30,079
Neighbors say they've reported
this to Waymo and are now taking

2359
02:17:30,079 --> 02:17:32,899
to social media to get the
company's attention. In a

2360
02:17:32,899 --> 02:17:36,859
statement, Waymo says it's aware
its cars may briefly honk while

2361
02:17:36,859 --> 02:17:40,899
navigating its parking lots way
more, says it has identified the

2362
02:17:40,899 --> 02:17:44,559
cause and is in the process of
implementing a fix. But these

2363
02:17:44,559 --> 02:17:48,399
residents say they want to see a
more neighborly response from

2364
02:17:48,399 --> 02:17:51,219
the new autonomous vehicle
company on the block.

2365
02:17:51,219 --> 02:17:53,919
We love having them there. We
just would like them to stop

2366
02:17:54,219 --> 02:17:57,099
honking their horn at four in
the morning repeatedly.

2367
02:17:59,499 --> 02:18:02,639
John C Dvorak: You make a story
that went by. I'm here and I

2368
02:18:02,639 --> 02:18:04,619
haven't heard this story. It's
great. Well, if

2369
02:18:04,619 --> 02:18:06,779
Adam Curry: you heard the
honking, you'd be all over it.

2370
02:18:07,019 --> 02:18:10,319
Imagine that the honk, and
you're right. It's like Furbies.

2371
02:18:12,600 --> 02:18:14,340
Unknown: Me,

2372
02:18:15,419 --> 02:18:19,439
Adam Curry: I found this to be
quite interesting. JP, Morgan,

2373
02:18:19,919 --> 02:18:26,179
who doesn't know him is now
deploying AI chat bots and

2374
02:18:26,179 --> 02:18:31,099
knowledge llms across all of
their 60,000 employees. You

2375
02:18:31,099 --> 02:18:34,099
Unknown: recall back in April JP
Morgan, CEO Jamie diamond, said

2376
02:18:34,099 --> 02:18:37,279
that generative AI was, in his
opinion, going to be as

2377
02:18:37,279 --> 02:18:39,919
potentially significant as the
advent of things like

2378
02:18:39,919 --> 02:18:42,879
electricity and the internet,
and then it would ultimately be

2379
02:18:42,879 --> 02:18:46,839
sort of a coach sitting on every
employee's desk, sort of helping

2380
02:18:46,839 --> 02:18:50,319
them out, helping him write
emails, generate reports, do

2381
02:18:50,319 --> 02:18:52,899
research, things like that. And
now we have an idea of what he

2382
02:18:52,899 --> 02:18:56,019
was really talking about. So
they rolled out about to about

2383
02:18:56,019 --> 02:18:59,559
60,000 employees, and
ultimately, I believe, hope to

2384
02:18:59,559 --> 02:19:03,239
have it really ubiquitous within
the bank, a program called LLM

2385
02:19:03,239 --> 02:19:07,619
suite. And LLM suite is
essentially their front end,

2386
02:19:07,739 --> 02:19:12,479
their wrapper, their portal into
large language models of open

2387
02:19:12,479 --> 02:19:17,399
AI, which is the, you know, the
LLM behind chat, GPT, and

2388
02:19:17,459 --> 02:19:21,379
ultimately will be the LLM
behind several other models will

2389
02:19:21,379 --> 02:19:25,879
be a port of several other
models of LMS, and so this is

2390
02:19:25,879 --> 02:19:30,559
essentially going to be sitting
on JP Morgan employees desks,

2391
02:19:30,559 --> 02:19:33,739
and it's going to be helping
them do cognitive tasks. And is

2392
02:19:33,739 --> 02:19:37,519
really kind of a surprising
Advent for this technology.

2393
02:19:37,519 --> 02:19:38,779
Andrew, Oh, well.

2394
02:19:38,840 --> 02:19:43,660
Adam Curry: So this was CNBC,
and which I like it when they do

2395
02:19:43,660 --> 02:19:46,540
send negative stories. There
wasn't really that negative, but

2396
02:19:46,540 --> 02:19:51,220
Andrew Ross Sorkin did ask an
intelligent question. You know,

2397
02:19:51,220 --> 02:19:54,460
ever since the I know, ever
since the deregulation of the

2398
02:19:54,460 --> 02:19:58,780
banks, you know, you can both be
a bank and an investment bank,

2399
02:19:58,780 --> 02:20:03,540
and they're supposed to. Be the
HERE IT COMES Chinese wall.

2400
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:07,260
Remember that John the Chinese
wall? Yeah, the old

2401
02:20:07,260 --> 02:20:09,360
John C Dvorak: Chinese wall.
What was the Chinese wall

2402
02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:11,880
supposed to separate one thing
from another so they don't

2403
02:20:11,940 --> 02:20:14,040
interact? Well,

2404
02:20:14,039 --> 02:20:16,259
Adam Curry: how does that work?
In this case, you recall,

2405
02:20:16,259 --> 02:20:18,539
Unknown: last year, they
actually banned, they restricted

2406
02:20:18,539 --> 02:20:21,319
chat GPT from employee use, and
that's because they really

2407
02:20:21,319 --> 02:20:25,159
didn't want to expose their
proprietary JP Morgan data to

2408
02:20:25,219 --> 02:20:28,639
the models and train the models
of open AI, so they're

2409
02:20:28,639 --> 02:20:32,179
containerizing their data, and
this is an ability for them to

2410
02:20:32,179 --> 02:20:35,839
use the data of JP Morgan
without exposing it to the

2411
02:20:35,839 --> 02:20:38,599
outside world. But, yeah,
they're going to be able to use

2412
02:20:38,599 --> 02:20:40,479
it to do research, to do sort
of,

2413
02:20:40,599 --> 02:20:44,499
right, but I'm saying but, but I
must. I'm assuming there's going

2414
02:20:44,499 --> 02:20:47,019
to be an even more Chinese walls
inside. I mean, they're gonna

2415
02:20:47,019 --> 02:20:50,679
have to containerize control
parts of this. So, you know, the

2416
02:20:50,679 --> 02:20:54,039
folks in the wealth management
business can't be searching

2417
02:20:54,039 --> 02:20:57,759
stuff that would exist in the
banking business, the bankers

2418
02:20:57,819 --> 02:21:01,079
shouldn't be searching stuff,
yeah, from the analysts, right?

2419
02:21:01,079 --> 02:21:04,439
Like, how does this all work? I
would assume that's right,

2420
02:21:04,439 --> 02:21:08,099
Andrew, that there are specific
rules and obviously walls

2421
02:21:08,099 --> 02:21:11,279
between the different parts of
the business. You wouldn't want,

2422
02:21:11,579 --> 02:21:15,059
you know, for instance, in
wealth management folks to get

2423
02:21:15,059 --> 02:21:18,959
potential data access from the
investment bank, for instance.

2424
02:21:18,959 --> 02:21:22,159
And you know, they really took,
I mean, it took them about a

2425
02:21:22,159 --> 02:21:25,939
year to create this portal, and
I think it's really because they

2426
02:21:25,939 --> 02:21:29,059
want to do it in a way that was
data secure. Andrew, yeah, data

2427
02:21:29,059 --> 02:21:32,059
Adam Curry: secure,
containerized. Please. Doubt it.

2428
02:21:32,119 --> 02:21:36,559
What could possibly go wrong?
Well, short, but also,

2429
02:21:36,919 --> 02:21:39,679
John C Dvorak: there's a Chinese
wall or not, I'd like to have

2430
02:21:39,679 --> 02:21:44,499
some rationale for this, for the
Chinese wall, I'm no, I mean,

2431
02:21:44,739 --> 02:21:47,439
they've deregulated the banks,
so they can do all these

2432
02:21:47,439 --> 02:21:50,019
different things. They can be
insurance companies, they can be

2433
02:21:50,019 --> 02:21:53,319
investment bankers, they can be
venture capitalists, they can be

2434
02:21:53,319 --> 02:21:57,219
banks, actual banks. They can do
all these things. So what if

2435
02:21:57,219 --> 02:21:59,259
they interact with each other? I

2436
02:21:59,260 --> 02:22:03,900
Adam Curry: just want to go into
that LLM and say, how much did

2437
02:22:03,900 --> 02:22:09,780
Jamie diamond pay Epstein? Show
me that, show me that do

2438
02:22:09,779 --> 02:22:14,399
John C Dvorak: the LLM and
exploit its knowledge base? Yes,

2439
02:22:14,759 --> 02:22:20,299
Adam Curry: only if it's
containerized, though. So since

2440
02:22:20,299 --> 02:22:25,579
we're in big tech, AI, the
socials, we must go to the

2441
02:22:25,579 --> 02:22:28,939
United Kingdom, still in chaos.
Oh,

2442
02:22:29,660 --> 02:22:31,040
John C Dvorak: do I have any
clips on this? I

2443
02:22:31,040 --> 02:22:34,520
Adam Curry: have clips. I have a
couple of good ones. I think the

2444
02:22:34,520 --> 02:22:39,620
first one is I have one now. But
let's put first. I'll put a

2445
02:22:39,620 --> 02:22:44,620
little bit of, little bit of
parameters around what's going

2446
02:22:44,620 --> 02:22:49,480
on here. So there is, you know,
this talk of, we're, you know,

2447
02:22:49,480 --> 02:22:53,680
we're arresting anybody who does
something wrong online. And I do

2448
02:22:53,680 --> 02:22:58,420
have a copy of the the Online
Safety Act, which, now, this was

2449
02:22:58,420 --> 02:23:04,920
passed in 2023, it's still kind
of being implemented, but it

2450
02:23:04,920 --> 02:23:09,600
puts new duties on tech firms to
protect their users from illegal

2451
02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:13,320
content, which, under the Act
can include content involving

2452
02:23:13,320 --> 02:23:17,340
hatred, disorder, provoking
violence, or certain instances

2453
02:23:17,340 --> 02:23:23,000
of disinformation In the riots
that have taken place in the UK

2454
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:26,540
since the three little girls
were stabbed at the Taylor Swift

2455
02:23:26,540 --> 02:23:32,540
uh dance a THON, more than 700
or actually, 741 arrests have

2456
02:23:32,540 --> 02:23:36,200
been made. How many of those do
you think relate to online

2457
02:23:36,200 --> 02:23:40,040
offenses? Which seems to be the
only thing I read about on X

2458
02:23:40,040 --> 02:23:40,780
news social

2459
02:23:42,819 --> 02:23:45,339
John C Dvorak: This is the
question for me. Yes, I'd say

2460
02:23:45,339 --> 02:23:46,659
100 not even 32

2461
02:23:47,860 --> 02:23:51,280
Adam Curry: Oh, curry two. But
here, here is the here's some

2462
02:23:51,280 --> 02:23:54,220
honcho saying we're coming after
you. We will

2463
02:23:54,220 --> 02:23:56,860
Unknown: throw the full force of
the law of people. And whether

2464
02:23:56,860 --> 02:24:00,840
you're in this country,
committing crimes on the streets

2465
02:24:01,020 --> 02:24:04,440
or committing crimes from
further afield online, we will

2466
02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:05,460
come after you talk

2467
02:24:05,459 --> 02:24:07,979
to me about that, because we
have seen some high profile

2468
02:24:07,979 --> 02:24:11,459
figures whipping up the hatred
you talked about it in there

2469
02:24:11,459 --> 02:24:14,099
with the officers, in fact,
about this being added to by

2470
02:24:14,099 --> 02:24:16,619
online commentary. I mean, I'm
even thinking of the likes of

2471
02:24:16,619 --> 02:24:19,679
Elon Musk getting involved. What
are you considering when it

2472
02:24:19,679 --> 02:24:22,699
comes to dealing with people who
are whipping up this kind of

2473
02:24:22,699 --> 02:24:25,519
behavior from behind a keyboard
and maybe in a different

2474
02:24:25,519 --> 02:24:26,539
country, keyboard

2475
02:24:26,540 --> 02:24:30,740
warriors. Being a keyboard
warrior does not make you safe

2476
02:24:30,740 --> 02:24:35,420
from the law. You can be guilty
of offenses, of incitement, of

2477
02:24:35,420 --> 02:24:38,420
stirring up racial hatred. There
are numerous terrorist offenses

2478
02:24:38,420 --> 02:24:43,720
regarding the publishing of
material, all of those offenses

2479
02:24:43,720 --> 02:24:47,080
are in play if people are
provoking hatred and violence on

2480
02:24:47,080 --> 02:24:49,840
the streets, and we will come
after those individuals, just as

2481
02:24:49,840 --> 02:24:52,420
we will physically confront on
the streets the thugs and the

2482
02:24:52,420 --> 02:24:55,060
jobs who are taking who are
causing the problems for

2483
02:24:55,060 --> 02:24:55,660
communities.

2484
02:24:55,779 --> 02:24:59,199
Adam Curry: Now I really like
how this has played out online,

2485
02:24:59,199 --> 02:25:03,899
and I. Really only have x and
Mastodon because it's always

2486
02:25:03,899 --> 02:25:08,459
CAPTIONED BY they're going to
extradite Americans? I don't

2487
02:25:08,459 --> 02:25:15,359
think so. But I would say if
you're posting on x, if you're

2488
02:25:15,359 --> 02:25:19,259
posting Hey, go and kick those
immigrants ass, you probably

2489
02:25:19,259 --> 02:25:25,339
should not visit the UK. Here is
an example of someone being

2490
02:25:25,339 --> 02:25:30,319
convicted to 20 months for an
online crime

2491
02:25:30,379 --> 02:25:33,919
Unknown: you have been committed
for sentence having pleaded

2492
02:25:33,919 --> 02:25:37,939
guilty to an offense of
publishing written material

2493
02:25:38,539 --> 02:25:44,499
which is threatening, abusive or
insulting, intending thereby to

2494
02:25:44,499 --> 02:25:50,499
stir up racial hatred. The
context of your offending is

2495
02:25:50,499 --> 02:25:56,919
that it arises out of the civil
unrest and disorder in many

2496
02:25:56,919 --> 02:26:00,779
parts of the United Kingdom on
the night of the second and

2497
02:26:00,779 --> 02:26:06,659
third of August, the Britannia
hotel in Leeds was attacked by

2498
02:26:06,659 --> 02:26:11,819
people who threw missiles,
missiles which damaged windows.

2499
02:26:12,419 --> 02:26:17,819
At the time, there were 210
occupants, many of whom were

2500
02:26:17,819 --> 02:26:22,759
foreign refugees and asylum
seekers, you took to social

2501
02:26:22,759 --> 02:26:28,399
media in order to encourage
others towards participation in

2502
02:26:28,399 --> 02:26:33,619
the attacks upon the hotel as is
recognized on your behalf, this

2503
02:26:33,619 --> 02:26:39,259
offense is so serious that an
Immediate custodial sentence is

2504
02:26:39,499 --> 02:26:44,079
unavoidable. Would you stand
please? The sentence that I pass

2505
02:26:44,079 --> 02:26:48,519
has been reduced by 1/3 to
reflect your guilty plea. The

2506
02:26:48,519 --> 02:26:51,279
sentence is one of 20 months
imprisonment.

2507
02:26:52,420 --> 02:26:55,960
John C Dvorak: Now I you know,
this is the clip. Do you never

2508
02:26:55,960 --> 02:26:59,260
see the guy? Correct, and
there's no background. You don't

2509
02:26:59,260 --> 02:27:02,040
see anybody, but this guy. I
think this is staged. Could be,

2510
02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:04,680
that could be, but that does
seem I saw this clip. I said

2511
02:27:04,680 --> 02:27:07,620
this is phony. There's some
phony about this clip could

2512
02:27:07,619 --> 02:27:09,779
Adam Curry: be. There may be
some specific rules about what

2513
02:27:09,779 --> 02:27:15,059
you can film and what angle you
can film, but I just like to say

2514
02:27:15,059 --> 02:27:17,399
so there's a lot of people that
we have, a lot of keyboard

2515
02:27:17,399 --> 02:27:20,459
warriors in America. I'd be
like, Oh yeah, come and take it.

2516
02:27:20,459 --> 02:27:21,019
Come on. Take

2517
02:27:21,020 --> 02:27:21,920
Unknown: it. Lie me. We

2518
02:27:21,920 --> 02:27:24,740
Adam Curry: kicked you. We
already did this. We tried it.

2519
02:27:24,800 --> 02:27:29,480
You came to Jim. We kicked you
out. We killed you. I will

2520
02:27:29,480 --> 02:27:32,600
remind everybody that if it
were, if it had not switched to

2521
02:27:32,600 --> 02:27:38,120
the immunity, President Trump
might actually be in some

2522
02:27:38,120 --> 02:27:41,800
trouble, because even in the
United States, there are some

2523
02:27:41,800 --> 02:27:45,460
limitations to your freedom of
speech. You can't I mean

2524
02:27:45,520 --> 02:27:49,960
inciting a riot or an erection,
as everyone said, meaning

2525
02:27:49,960 --> 02:27:53,860
insurrection. There are some
limitations around what you can

2526
02:27:53,860 --> 02:27:56,560
do. Am I correct in saying that?
John, just wanna make sure I'm

2527
02:27:56,560 --> 02:28:00,480
correct. I don't know that you
are, isn't it? You can't yell

2528
02:28:00,480 --> 02:28:02,400
fire in a crowded theater.

2529
02:28:02,699 --> 02:28:04,379
John C Dvorak: They always say
that, but where's the law

2530
02:28:04,379 --> 02:28:05,039
against it?

2531
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:07,920
Adam Curry: I don't know. That's
why I'm asking.

2532
02:28:09,059 --> 02:28:12,179
John C Dvorak: So as far as I'm
concerned, you can say fire in a

2533
02:28:12,299 --> 02:28:15,899
theater, and maybe you might get
beat up, which is appropriate,

2534
02:28:16,139 --> 02:28:21,259
Adam Curry: very appropriate.
But it seems like this is, this

2535
02:28:21,259 --> 02:28:27,319
has just become a, I mean,
literally, Twitter slash x is,

2536
02:28:27,379 --> 02:28:32,059
is now all this, and I've tried
to get out of the algo hole, and

2537
02:28:32,059 --> 02:28:36,619
it's just all this. It's just
all of, oh my God, and, and the

2538
02:28:36,619 --> 02:28:40,099
way that's playing out in the UK
is they're using it to come

2539
02:28:40,099 --> 02:28:44,619
after people Nigel Farage is
one. I

2540
02:28:44,620 --> 02:28:48,040
Unknown: did more. I did more to
get rid of the BNP as a

2541
02:28:48,040 --> 02:28:51,460
political force in Britain than
anybody else in the country.

2542
02:28:51,460 --> 02:28:58,000
Amplified this misinformation, I
said, suggest, give us clarity.

2543
02:28:58,000 --> 02:29:00,660
You didn't just say that,
though, Nigel I did. Also said

2544
02:29:00,660 --> 02:29:03,600
the internet was awash with all
sorts of theories, all of which

2545
02:29:03,600 --> 02:29:06,480
proved to be unfounded, yes, but
that's what led to the riots in

2546
02:29:06,480 --> 02:29:11,220
Southport. But you indulged in
those theories. I've still been

2547
02:29:11,220 --> 02:29:15,000
told whether this person was on
a list or not. I don't know the

2548
02:29:15,000 --> 02:29:18,300
answer that one. Do you know? I
don't know, but this legitimate.

2549
02:29:18,300 --> 02:29:21,720
You think we deserve to know? I
absolutely. I think at least my

2550
02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:25,280
question is valid, but not in a
way that you put it, because you

2551
02:29:25,280 --> 02:29:28,400
know what you're doing. You
suggested some reports suggest

2552
02:29:28,400 --> 02:29:30,680
that he was known to the
security service, that they came

2553
02:29:30,680 --> 02:29:33,500
on in a boat, that he was an
asylum seeker. That's not true.

2554
02:29:33,500 --> 02:29:36,380
And I didn't know my question.
Did you know that I was getting

2555
02:29:36,380 --> 02:29:40,900
true? I don't know now whether
this man was no promoting those

2556
02:29:40,900 --> 02:29:43,900
reports because I want to know
the truth. I wanted to know it

2557
02:29:43,900 --> 02:29:45,460
then, and I want to know it now.

2558
02:29:46,479 --> 02:29:50,259
John C Dvorak: So he What the
hell crappy show was that where

2559
02:29:50,259 --> 02:29:51,459
they talk all over each other,
oh,

2560
02:29:51,459 --> 02:29:54,039
Adam Curry: that's LBC. That's
where, that's where it's all

2561
02:29:54,039 --> 02:29:58,479
playing out on LBC. But it
really seems like they want us.

2562
02:29:58,479 --> 02:30:01,919
They want to, they want to get
some. They want a guy, and that

2563
02:30:01,919 --> 02:30:03,899
guy is Tommy Robinson.

2564
02:30:04,259 --> 02:30:07,259
Unknown: Tommy Robinson, a man
who has been staring up anti

2565
02:30:07,259 --> 02:30:10,079
Muslim hatred online for
decades, is back in the

2566
02:30:10,079 --> 02:30:13,499
spotlight, accused of
influencing the worst riots

2567
02:30:13,499 --> 02:30:17,219
Britain has seen in over a
decade by spreading anti Muslim

2568
02:30:17,219 --> 02:30:21,379
disinformation to his 900,000
followers on apps,

2569
02:30:21,380 --> 02:30:25,880
so before people get on quick
and condemn the Angry Men that

2570
02:30:25,880 --> 02:30:27,920
anger is justified.

2571
02:30:28,400 --> 02:30:32,420
So who is Tommy Robinson? Tommy
Robinson, whose real name is

2572
02:30:32,420 --> 02:30:36,140
Steven yatse Lennon, is a well
known anti Muslim far right

2573
02:30:36,140 --> 02:30:39,980
figure in the UK. Co founded the
English Defense League, an anti

2574
02:30:39,980 --> 02:30:44,140
Muslim organization in 2009
Robinson's anti Muslim

2575
02:30:44,140 --> 02:30:47,560
activities heightened a few
years later when grooming gang

2576
02:30:47,560 --> 02:30:52,000
scandals in towns across England
rocked the UK. Robinson took

2577
02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:55,600
Alliance from Islamic scriptures
to suggest on street grooming as

2578
02:30:55,600 --> 02:31:00,280
a uniquely Muslim issue. Twitter
banned Robinson in 2018 and meta

2579
02:31:00,280 --> 02:31:04,980
followed suit a year later for
his anti Muslim posts under Elon

2580
02:31:04,980 --> 02:31:07,920
Musk's Twitter takeover,
Robinson's account was

2581
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:12,180
reinstated in late 2023 over the
years, Robinson has raised

2582
02:31:12,180 --> 02:31:15,540
millions of pounds in donations
from followers. A guardian

2583
02:31:15,540 --> 02:31:19,740
investigation in 2018 found that
he also receives financial,

2584
02:31:19,740 --> 02:31:23,660
political and moral support from
foreign groups and individuals,

2585
02:31:23,840 --> 02:31:27,320
including us, think tanks, right
wing Australians and Russian

2586
02:31:27,320 --> 02:31:31,580
trolls. Where is Tommy Robinson
now? Robinson has been abroad

2587
02:31:31,580 --> 02:31:35,780
since 28 July. He left the UK on
the eve of a court hearing over

2588
02:31:35,780 --> 02:31:38,780
contempt of court proceedings.
He has since been supported on a

2589
02:31:38,780 --> 02:31:41,920
luxury resort on Greek
administered southern Cyprus.

2590
02:31:42,100 --> 02:31:45,460
Now with far right violence
causing disorder across the UK

2591
02:31:45,640 --> 02:31:49,300
and arrests underway, many are
asking what will happen to Tommy

2592
02:31:49,300 --> 02:31:50,380
Robinson. Well,

2593
02:31:50,380 --> 02:31:53,380
Adam Curry: they want him. They
want Him, for sure. They want

2594
02:31:53,380 --> 02:31:59,200
him. By the way, there's only
one case case law in first

2595
02:31:59,200 --> 02:32:04,440
amendment that I can find it's
Brandenburg versus Ohio, a from

2596
02:32:04,440 --> 02:32:08,280
1969 landmark decision of the
United States Supreme Court

2597
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:11,580
interpreting the First Amendment
to the US Constitution. The

2598
02:32:11,580 --> 02:32:15,960
Court held that government
cannot punish inflammatory

2599
02:32:15,960 --> 02:32:21,500
speech unless that speech is
quote, directed to inciting or

2600
02:32:21,500 --> 02:32:26,360
producing imminent lawless
action, and is likely to incite

2601
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:31,220
or produce such action which
seems iffy,

2602
02:32:32,540 --> 02:32:36,500
John C Dvorak: well, that
precludes a yelling fire in a

2603
02:32:36,500 --> 02:32:37,460
crowded theater.

2604
02:32:38,479 --> 02:32:42,399
Unknown: Yes, yes, that, which
is very old,

2605
02:32:44,440 --> 02:32:47,260
John C Dvorak: just kind of
accepted. I think it's, it's

2606
02:32:47,260 --> 02:32:51,160
just one of those agreed, you
agree, right?

2607
02:32:52,299 --> 02:32:55,779
Adam Curry: So if you're online
and you're saying, hey, go beat

2608
02:32:55,779 --> 02:32:59,379
up some some immigrants, that
could be a pro. If there's a

2609
02:32:59,379 --> 02:33:03,899
riot underway, that could be a
problem. It's just interesting

2610
02:33:03,899 --> 02:33:09,719
to see. What's happening in
general is just, it's like, wow,

2611
02:33:09,719 --> 02:33:13,079
all the keyboard warriors are
out, and the memes are

2612
02:33:13,079 --> 02:33:16,259
hilarious, of course. And yeah,
this will get you locked up for

2613
02:33:16,319 --> 02:33:24,859
20 months in the UK. Okay, great
memes, everybody. So I think

2614
02:33:24,859 --> 02:33:30,379
they'll, they'll calm this down.
The mainstream has already, man,

2615
02:33:30,379 --> 02:33:34,399
the front pages for the eighth
of August was all the same

2616
02:33:34,639 --> 02:33:37,939
picture. Then the UK, they
always do, they do this nightly.

2617
02:33:37,939 --> 02:33:41,139
Say, here's all the papers for
tomorrow, and they show you the

2618
02:33:41,199 --> 02:33:45,879
front pages, all the same, with
people saying, United Britain

2619
02:33:45,879 --> 02:33:50,319
stands firm against thugs and
yobs. 1000s take to the streets

2620
02:33:50,319 --> 02:33:53,859
to counter threat from far
right. And there it is. We've

2621
02:33:53,859 --> 02:33:55,779
always said that this was about
the far right.

2622
02:33:56,440 --> 02:34:01,380
John C Dvorak: I have an NPR
clip from this UK called UK odd

2623
02:34:01,380 --> 02:34:03,480
report. It's only 17 seconds

2624
02:34:03,659 --> 02:34:06,179
Unknown: across the United
Kingdom Today, 1000s of people

2625
02:34:06,179 --> 02:34:10,319
turned out for anti racist
rallies after anti immigration

2626
02:34:10,319 --> 02:34:13,619
riots took place this week
following the stabbing deaths of

2627
02:34:13,619 --> 02:34:17,399
several children in a seaside
town in London, people gathered

2628
02:34:17,399 --> 02:34:20,759
outside the right wing reform UK
parties headquarters.

2629
02:34:21,840 --> 02:34:25,580
Adam Curry: It is now blaming
the blame for eyes, yes. Far

2630
02:34:25,580 --> 02:34:26,000
Right,

2631
02:34:26,060 --> 02:34:27,200
John C Dvorak: that's it very
subtle.

2632
02:34:27,260 --> 02:34:29,840
Adam Curry: Yeah. Far Right.
We've been tracking this for

2633
02:34:29,840 --> 02:34:33,620
months, yet, years. Far Right.
Far Right, every far right. It

2634
02:34:34,700 --> 02:34:37,220
has now emerged that the
government in London has started

2635
02:34:37,220 --> 02:34:41,680
flagging content it deems to be
misinformation, but also

2636
02:34:41,680 --> 02:34:45,880
something referred to as
concerning content. X is among

2637
02:34:45,880 --> 02:34:48,280
those who have been asked to
remove posts which British

2638
02:34:48,280 --> 02:34:51,760
officials consider to threaten
the country's national security,

2639
02:34:51,940 --> 02:34:55,240
and while reports say Google,
meta and Tiktok are complying

2640
02:34:55,240 --> 02:34:58,900
with these demands, x is said to
be resisting them. That's right.

2641
02:34:58,900 --> 02:35:02,280
Elon free speech. The
accusations that social sites

2642
02:35:02,280 --> 02:35:04,620
John C Dvorak: because they
don't have enough people, it's

2643
02:35:04,620 --> 02:35:06,840
like, oh brother, we have to do
what?

2644
02:35:08,040 --> 02:35:11,100
Adam Curry: Yeah, get it. The
accusations that social sites

2645
02:35:11,100 --> 02:35:14,160
are providing a platform for
hate while allegingly

2646
02:35:14,280 --> 02:35:19,380
unaccountable for that, is,
while allegedly unaccountable

2647
02:35:19,380 --> 02:35:22,460
for that, what is coming from
Cabinet members and MPs alike.

2648
02:35:22,760 --> 02:35:27,080
Well, sentence structure, yeah,
not good. But the bottom line

2649
02:35:27,080 --> 02:35:31,880
is, I'm all for x being a free
for all. Do whatever you want.

2650
02:35:31,880 --> 02:35:37,580
Although I see zero posts or
anything from the left, I think

2651
02:35:37,580 --> 02:35:38,360
they've all, Oh, don't.

2652
02:35:38,720 --> 02:35:39,800
Unknown: Oh, please. I

2653
02:35:39,799 --> 02:35:40,539
Adam Curry: haven't seen it.

2654
02:35:41,020 --> 02:35:45,100
John C Dvorak: Go find the
Michael Hayden threads, and then

2655
02:35:45,100 --> 02:35:48,220
just go down the line again and
click on any of those people

2656
02:35:48,220 --> 02:35:51,820
that are Yeah, you're right.
Michael, yeah. Trump sucks.

2657
02:35:51,879 --> 02:35:54,639
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, wait,
but wait, wait, that's freedom

2658
02:35:54,699 --> 02:35:58,839
of speech, not freedom of reach.
Is not popping up, is my point?

2659
02:35:59,439 --> 02:35:59,619
Well,

2660
02:35:59,620 --> 02:36:02,640
John C Dvorak: not Yeah, because
you've already been the elgos

2661
02:36:02,640 --> 02:36:05,460
have defined you, I guess, and
they're not going to give you

2662
02:36:05,460 --> 02:36:08,340
that stuff, right? You have to
go seek it. Yeah, you can find

2663
02:36:08,340 --> 02:36:09,180
it as tons of I mean,

2664
02:36:09,180 --> 02:36:11,700
Adam Curry: you can find porn on
X too, if you go seek it. I

2665
02:36:11,700 --> 02:36:12,780
mean, it's all, yes, you

2666
02:36:12,779 --> 02:36:16,919
John C Dvorak: can, oh, really
mediocre porn. It's usually a

2667
02:36:16,919 --> 02:36:18,419
link, not that I know.

2668
02:36:22,860 --> 02:36:28,160
Adam Curry: Um, but please. You
know, the the Garm lawsuit, and

2669
02:36:28,160 --> 02:36:32,120
you know advert, you know, don't
expect advertisers to show up.

2670
02:36:32,780 --> 02:36:38,900
You know, what was that all
about? Seriously, if I mean

2671
02:36:39,260 --> 02:36:42,340
freedom of speech and
advertising. They're

2672
02:36:42,340 --> 02:36:47,800
perpendicular. Advertising is
always censorship, if only for

2673
02:36:47,800 --> 02:36:51,640
the product, for the competing
product. You know what I mean?

2674
02:36:51,699 --> 02:36:54,099
John C Dvorak: It's like, we're
we're advertising is an

2675
02:36:54,099 --> 02:36:56,559
anathema. Is the word you're
looking for, anathema. Thank

2676
02:36:56,559 --> 02:37:00,719
you. I mean anathema to free
speech. Well, by the way, where

2677
02:37:00,719 --> 02:37:03,659
you want balls. You're not gonna
it's really gonna be tough. Yes,

2678
02:37:03,659 --> 02:37:07,439
Adam Curry: where was Eli, the
coffee guy today missing?

2679
02:37:07,440 --> 02:37:09,180
John C Dvorak: I didn't see him
missing and show up

2680
02:37:09,420 --> 02:37:12,720
Adam Curry: So, but, but, you
know, we talk about, I talk

2681
02:37:12,720 --> 02:37:15,960
about black rifle, I talk about
other kinds of coffee. Because

2682
02:37:15,960 --> 02:37:19,440
he's not advertising. He's
mentioning his code. Maybe

2683
02:37:19,440 --> 02:37:23,180
that's why he didn't send a
donation today. I don't know

2684
02:37:23,420 --> 02:37:25,220
John C Dvorak: well, because you
mentioned something, I don't

2685
02:37:25,220 --> 02:37:29,060
remember you plugging some other
coffee. Plug other coffee. You

2686
02:37:29,060 --> 02:37:33,920
get so much free stuff from Eli,
because I can't drink it fast

2687
02:37:33,920 --> 02:37:34,280
enough,

2688
02:37:34,580 --> 02:37:38,600
Adam Curry: because I, because I
like black rifle. I like black

2689
02:37:38,600 --> 02:37:42,520
rifle. Tina has had his, uh,
decaffeine. But my point is,

2690
02:37:42,520 --> 02:37:45,040
John C Dvorak: oh, it's
decaffeinated, yeah. My point

2691
02:37:45,040 --> 02:37:46,600
is, what's the point?

2692
02:37:46,660 --> 02:37:49,960
Adam Curry: You can't, you can't
be yelling at like, oh,

2693
02:37:49,960 --> 02:37:54,460
advertisers. But I know what's
happening. I know what the plan

2694
02:37:54,460 --> 02:37:58,960
is, and it's, it's interesting,
because that lawsuit was not

2695
02:37:58,960 --> 02:38:04,320
just Elon against Garm, the
advert the Federation of world

2696
02:38:04,320 --> 02:38:09,060
advertisers rating system, which
has apparently folded, was like

2697
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:17,400
two guys, probably most likely,
but it was also rum, RUMBLE,

2698
02:38:17,400 --> 02:38:19,620
RUMBLE, RUMBLE. It

2699
02:38:19,620 --> 02:38:21,140
John C Dvorak: could be rumble.
It could be bitch, you

2700
02:38:21,140 --> 02:38:25,640
Adam Curry: know, it was rumble.
And what Rumble is now doing is

2701
02:38:25,640 --> 02:38:30,020
they are going after advertisers
who won't advertise. So they're

2702
02:38:30,020 --> 02:38:33,320
making this, that's the old way
of doing things. Yep, they're

2703
02:38:33,320 --> 02:38:36,920
saying, hey, Dunkin Donuts, you
don't want to advertise. We're

2704
02:38:36,920 --> 02:38:38,420
gonna that's the, you know,

2705
02:38:40,520 --> 02:38:43,180
John C Dvorak: publishing model,
by the way, people don't want to

2706
02:38:43,180 --> 02:38:47,140
realize it, but that is the old
model. It goes way back into the

2707
02:38:47,140 --> 02:38:49,840
20s and 30s, especially in the
newspaper business, where they,

2708
02:38:49,840 --> 02:38:52,120
you know, it would take over
some city that two or three

2709
02:38:52,120 --> 02:38:55,120
newspapers are competing, but
they'd all want these, like

2710
02:38:55,120 --> 02:38:58,240
Macy's to average. Where's your
Macy's advertising? I could be

2711
02:38:58,240 --> 02:39:00,960
you guys aren't ever you know
this. This is the type of sales,

2712
02:39:00,960 --> 02:39:03,900
a different kind of sales. You
go in and say, Hey, you guys

2713
02:39:03,900 --> 02:39:06,120
didn't advertise in the
newspaper The last Sunday paper.

2714
02:39:06,120 --> 02:39:08,280
You know, you got a big sale
coming up. How come you didn't

2715
02:39:08,280 --> 02:39:11,220
advertise? Well, you know, we
really can't afford, oh, really,

2716
02:39:11,220 --> 02:39:14,340
I don't think you can afford not
to advertise unless you want us

2717
02:39:14,340 --> 02:39:18,060
to roll out this, this
scandalous news about how you're

2718
02:39:18,060 --> 02:39:21,440
treating your employees. Yeah,

2719
02:39:21,680 --> 02:39:24,020
Adam Curry: exactly. What's that
in your mouth? Duncan.

2720
02:39:24,620 --> 02:39:27,620
John C Dvorak: So that's the way
it used to be. Now they're so

2721
02:39:27,620 --> 02:39:30,560
passive. Well, you wonder why
they went out of business all

2722
02:39:30,560 --> 02:39:33,320
these newspapers. They don't
have any many balls anymore.

2723
02:39:33,320 --> 02:39:33,620
Well,

2724
02:39:33,680 --> 02:39:35,840
Adam Curry: it could be
changing. Could be changing, and

2725
02:39:35,840 --> 02:39:37,640
that's what Rumble is doing.
Rumble is

2726
02:39:38,599 --> 02:39:41,079
John C Dvorak: got the right
idea. That is the old fashioned.

2727
02:39:41,139 --> 02:39:46,059
It sounds corrupt because it is,
but it's the old way of doing

2728
02:39:46,059 --> 02:39:46,479
things.

2729
02:39:46,479 --> 02:39:51,399
Adam Curry: It works. It works?
No, yeah, so. But in general, I

2730
02:39:51,399 --> 02:39:54,159
mean, don't expect a lot of
advertisers be lining up your

2731
02:39:54,159 --> 02:39:57,639
door if you tell them to go F
themselves. And you have,

2732
02:39:57,639 --> 02:40:01,379
John C Dvorak: I know you guys,
you have. Yourselves. Okay, all

2733
02:40:01,379 --> 02:40:03,479
right, good. We're out of here.

2734
02:40:04,620 --> 02:40:06,720
Adam Curry: Quick update on
this, since everyone wants to

2735
02:40:06,720 --> 02:40:10,320
know, and I am the aviator, the
airman on duty Brazilian

2736
02:40:10,320 --> 02:40:13,320
Unknown: airline VoIP pass has
confirmed that all 61 passengers

2737
02:40:13,320 --> 02:40:17,160
and crew were killed when one of
its planes crashed in Sao, Paulo

2738
02:40:17,160 --> 02:40:21,860
state. The ATR, 72 aircraft went
down in a residential area in

2739
02:40:21,860 --> 02:40:25,340
the city of vinedo, around 80
kilometers north of Sao Paulo

2740
02:40:25,340 --> 02:40:29,540
city. Social media videos show
the aircraft tumbling out of the

2741
02:40:29,540 --> 02:40:32,420
sky, as you can see here,
authorities say they found the

2742
02:40:32,420 --> 02:40:34,940
black box and are working to
determine the cause of the

2743
02:40:34,940 --> 02:40:35,420
crash.

2744
02:40:35,840 --> 02:40:40,480
Adam Curry: So the news this
morning is on x of course, there

2745
02:40:40,480 --> 02:40:44,500
were six cancer doctors on that
plane. It was taken down.

2746
02:40:46,840 --> 02:40:48,760
John C Dvorak: Well, I want to
hear you. I was going to send

2747
02:40:48,760 --> 02:40:51,760
you a note, because they, they,
I saw it. A couple of the videos

2748
02:40:51,760 --> 02:40:54,400
are pretty spectacular because
it shows the plan in a flat

2749
02:40:54,520 --> 02:40:57,940
spin, flat well, which is like,
Oh, there you go. You're not,

2750
02:40:58,300 --> 02:41:02,640
you're nice surviving this, no,
but it was like, I looked up the

2751
02:41:02,640 --> 02:41:07,560
ATR 72 and it has, on the wiki
page, has all the list of all

2752
02:41:07,560 --> 02:41:11,400
the accidents it's ever had,
yep, and 90% of all the

2753
02:41:11,400 --> 02:41:15,660
accidents has ever had was icing
issues. They I guess the plane

2754
02:41:15,780 --> 02:41:18,540
ice is up really easy, and then
it craps out.

2755
02:41:18,600 --> 02:41:22,520
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's so
there's two things this, I

2756
02:41:22,520 --> 02:41:28,640
believe this was icing. There
were severe icing conditions at

2757
02:41:28,640 --> 02:41:33,080
17,000 feet, where they were,
where they were flying. And all

2758
02:41:33,080 --> 02:41:36,800
turbo props always have to be
aware of icing conditions,

2759
02:41:36,980 --> 02:41:42,400
particularly tea tail, which is
what the ATR is. And there's a

2760
02:41:43,720 --> 02:41:47,800
the things you have to do to get
out of icing. The first thing

2761
02:41:47,800 --> 02:41:51,760
is, you immediately have to
reduce your engines. And from

2762
02:41:51,760 --> 02:41:54,580
what I could tell, that's just,
from what I could hear, didn't

2763
02:41:54,580 --> 02:41:56,800
sound like they did that until
they're almost down at the

2764
02:41:56,800 --> 02:42:02,520
ground. So it might have been
inexperienced or poor training.

2765
02:42:03,120 --> 02:42:07,800
But this was nothing more than
very an icing, August, Brazil,

2766
02:42:07,800 --> 02:42:12,000
southern hemisphere, you bet,
very unfortunate day record for

2767
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:17,700
sure, but not some kind of hit
job on cancer scientists. It was

2768
02:42:17,700 --> 02:42:22,820
icing and and I think, I think
it was also the, remember that

2769
02:42:22,820 --> 02:42:27,860
plane crashed with the one of
the wives of the 911 victims who

2770
02:42:27,860 --> 02:42:31,460
was making a big deal about
stuff, and then that plane

2771
02:42:31,460 --> 02:42:35,720
crashed, that was also icing.
And if you remember that, we

2772
02:42:35,720 --> 02:42:38,300
followed that for a while, I
don't remember. It's always

2773
02:42:38,300 --> 02:42:40,600
like, well, who was on the
plane? Now this is when you're

2774
02:42:40,600 --> 02:42:44,080
in that flat spin, no, there's,
there's no recovery, pretty

2775
02:42:44,080 --> 02:42:48,160
much, not in that kind of
aircraft. So that's an aircraft

2776
02:42:48,160 --> 02:42:49,420
to avoid, if you can.

2777
02:42:51,580 --> 02:42:53,920
John C Dvorak: Yeah, if you look
at the wiki page for that

2778
02:42:53,920 --> 02:42:57,100
aircraft, there's a lot they has
a lot of issues, very although

2779
02:42:57,100 --> 02:42:59,500
there's lots of these planes out
there too. So it would be

2780
02:42:59,500 --> 02:43:02,760
unfair, but it's, it's always
icing. Yeah,

2781
02:43:02,879 --> 02:43:05,819
Adam Curry: the the Dutch city
Hopper, a lot of those planes

2782
02:43:05,819 --> 02:43:11,879
are like that, so be careful of
icing. Now on the cancer tip, oh

2783
02:43:11,879 --> 02:43:15,719
boy. What? What could this be?
Diseases

2784
02:43:15,720 --> 02:43:18,960
Unknown: of all sorts become
more common as we get older, but

2785
02:43:18,960 --> 02:43:22,100
now a new study shows
Millennials are at higher risk

2786
02:43:22,100 --> 02:43:25,580
of developing certain cancers
compared to Baby Boomers, and

2787
02:43:25,580 --> 02:43:28,760
what doctors say could be
driving that increase, I

2788
02:43:28,760 --> 02:43:32,480
would never have thought of
anything seriously wrong with me

2789
02:43:32,480 --> 02:43:34,460
at all being so young. Briana

2790
02:43:34,459 --> 02:43:38,959
Dillman was 41 healthy, a busy
working mom. Dillman couldn't

2791
02:43:38,959 --> 02:43:42,219
believe she had colorectal
cancer, but researchers say

2792
02:43:42,279 --> 02:43:45,579
there's growing evidence younger
people are more likely to

2793
02:43:45,579 --> 02:43:48,399
develop certain cancers than
their parents. What

2794
02:43:48,399 --> 02:43:51,459
we want to understand now is,
why are these individuals not

2795
02:43:51,459 --> 02:43:55,479
only being diagnosed with cancer
at young ages, but why are they

2796
02:43:55,479 --> 02:43:58,719
also facing poor outcomes than
the generations before

2797
02:43:58,719 --> 02:43:59,559
them? Miranda

2798
02:43:59,560 --> 02:44:02,580
Fiddler benutia is a research
scientist at the University of

2799
02:44:02,580 --> 02:44:05,700
Calgary. She worked with the
American Cancer Society on a

2800
02:44:05,700 --> 02:44:10,440
study that found in the US, 17
of 34 cancers are being

2801
02:44:10,440 --> 02:44:14,220
diagnosed more often in younger
adults. Fiddler benudia says the

2802
02:44:14,220 --> 02:44:17,460
risk of developing some of them,
including small intestine,

2803
02:44:17,580 --> 02:44:21,440
kidney and pancreatic cancer,
were two to three times greater

2804
02:44:21,440 --> 02:44:25,460
for millennials born around 1990
compared to Baby Boomers. And

2805
02:44:25,460 --> 02:44:25,640
then

2806
02:44:25,639 --> 02:44:28,819
we also found for some of these
cancers that mortality was also

2807
02:44:28,819 --> 02:44:30,619
increasing in these younger
people. Yeah,

2808
02:44:30,619 --> 02:44:34,999
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna say
it, because come on now, come

2809
02:44:34,999 --> 02:44:39,619
on. The number one group who
wanted to go out during covid.

2810
02:44:39,619 --> 02:44:42,219
What was the requirement, gee,
did they take that into

2811
02:44:42,219 --> 02:44:47,079
consideration in this survey,
this test, this puzzling, so

2812
02:44:47,079 --> 02:44:48,519
puzzling overall

2813
02:44:48,580 --> 02:44:51,340
Unknown: death rates from cancer
have been dropping, but the

2814
02:44:51,340 --> 02:44:54,700
American study found there was a
higher risk of death for young

2815
02:44:54,700 --> 02:44:58,180
people with certain cancers,
including endometrial,

2816
02:44:58,180 --> 02:45:00,600
testicular and colorectal
cancer. Cancer. We don't

2817
02:45:00,600 --> 02:45:03,180
want to freak people out. It's
not these are still very low

2818
02:45:03,180 --> 02:45:05,400
numbers overall. Thank you. Dr
Shadi

2819
02:45:05,400 --> 02:45:09,000
ashmallah is a cancer surgeon in
Toronto, while the new study is

2820
02:45:09,000 --> 02:45:12,660
American, he says cancer cases
are rising in younger Canadians

2821
02:45:12,660 --> 02:45:16,080
too. His hospital, Sunnybrook,
opened the first colorectal

2822
02:45:16,080 --> 02:45:20,540
clinic for younger adults. Dr
ashimala says more can be done.

2823
02:45:20,600 --> 02:45:21,200
So we're actually

2824
02:45:21,199 --> 02:45:24,619
winning in the population over
50 and those colorectal cancer

2825
02:45:24,619 --> 02:45:26,719
rates are going down in
populations that we're

2826
02:45:26,719 --> 02:45:30,019
screening. And so screening is
absolutely the key.

2827
02:45:30,140 --> 02:45:33,800
Check in with your body when
something doesn't feel right,

2828
02:45:34,520 --> 02:45:36,500
seek advice from your doctor.
Briana

2829
02:45:36,499 --> 02:45:40,479
Dillman was a patient at
Sunnybrook Hospital now 46 she's

2830
02:45:40,479 --> 02:45:42,639
thankful her cancer was caught
early. I'm

2831
02:45:42,640 --> 02:45:47,320
so grateful to my doctor, who
did not brush this away. Doctors

2832
02:45:47,319 --> 02:45:50,199
say it's not entirely clear
what's driving the increase in

2833
02:45:50,199 --> 02:45:54,639
cases, but 10 of the 17 cancers
rising in younger adults are

2834
02:45:54,639 --> 02:45:58,299
obesity related. Scientists
suspect changes in diet more

2835
02:45:58,299 --> 02:46:02,099
sedentary lifestyles and early
exposure to environmental

2836
02:46:02,099 --> 02:46:04,019
chemicals could be factors.

2837
02:46:04,080 --> 02:46:06,480
Adam Curry: Yes, of course. Of
course, they could be factor. Of

2838
02:46:06,480 --> 02:46:09,120
course they could be factors. I
am gonna

2839
02:46:09,179 --> 02:46:12,779
John C Dvorak: be a factor. At
least mention the vaccine. Why

2840
02:46:12,779 --> 02:46:14,039
don't they do that? Come on.
Well,

2841
02:46:14,100 --> 02:46:16,440
Adam Curry: now let's go to San
Francisco, because there's

2842
02:46:16,440 --> 02:46:19,680
another I mean, it looks like
they've cracked the case.

2843
02:46:19,920 --> 02:46:23,300
They've cracked the case of
severe illness in kids.

2844
02:46:23,899 --> 02:46:27,379
Unknown: It was 2020 and Doctor
Aaron bodansky kept seeing a

2845
02:46:27,379 --> 02:46:31,159
high number of children coming
into the ICU with a mysterious

2846
02:46:31,159 --> 02:46:32,719
inflammatory disease.

2847
02:46:32,779 --> 02:46:36,019
They had severe inflammation of
all of their bodies, but in

2848
02:46:36,019 --> 02:46:38,899
particular their lungs and
really their hearts. Turns

2849
02:46:38,900 --> 02:46:42,220
out, this was happening to
children across the world, and

2850
02:46:42,220 --> 02:46:46,120
no one knew why the illness came
to be known as multi system

2851
02:46:46,120 --> 02:46:48,040
inflammatory syndrome in
children.

2852
02:46:48,100 --> 02:46:51,220
Adam Curry: What could have
happened across the world that

2853
02:46:51,220 --> 02:46:54,760
that affects all these children?
It's so baffling or

2854
02:46:54,879 --> 02:46:56,199
Unknown: mis C

2855
02:46:56,260 --> 02:47:01,140
The only thing we knew was that
they had previously had a SARS

2856
02:47:01,140 --> 02:47:02,580
covid, two infection

2857
02:47:02,820 --> 02:47:06,120
as cases intensified, doctors
suspected the severe

2858
02:47:06,120 --> 02:47:09,420
inflammation was connected to
the immune system to keep

2859
02:47:09,420 --> 02:47:12,960
children alive. Medical
personnel acted on that hunch.

2860
02:47:13,020 --> 02:47:13,200
We

2861
02:47:13,200 --> 02:47:17,280
use medicines to suppress and
calm their immune system, which

2862
02:47:17,580 --> 02:47:21,800
thankfully worked extremely well
to save their lives. This has

2863
02:47:21,800 --> 02:47:24,560
been a puzzle that researchers
and clinicians across the

2864
02:47:24,560 --> 02:47:27,740
country and in fact, across the
world, have tried to figure out,

2865
02:47:28,100 --> 02:47:31,340
and yet it is alluded almost
everyone, until now,

2866
02:47:31,580 --> 02:47:34,640
after years in this lab, they
cracked the case.

2867
02:47:34,819 --> 02:47:37,519
Adam Curry: Okay, so I stopped
here for a second, and by the

2868
02:47:37,519 --> 02:47:40,719
way, I don't want anyone to get
cancer, and I'm absolutely sure

2869
02:47:40,719 --> 02:47:45,939
that the unhealthy sedentary
lifestyle, micro plastics, we're

2870
02:47:45,939 --> 02:47:48,879
not eating food anymore. I
guarantee you that does not

2871
02:47:48,879 --> 02:47:52,779
help. But I would just like to
have one study, one study that

2872
02:47:52,779 --> 02:47:55,719
goes mainstream with that. Just
look at the side effects of the

2873
02:47:55,719 --> 02:48:02,039
vaccination. It would be nice to
know and now this guy gives such

2874
02:48:02,039 --> 02:48:04,679
a screwball explanation for what
there's

2875
02:48:04,860 --> 02:48:07,500
John C Dvorak: Well, hold on a
second. No, no. There's plenty

2876
02:48:07,500 --> 02:48:10,800
of studies that show this. They
just don't want to talk about

2877
02:48:10,800 --> 02:48:12,900
Adam Curry: That's what I said.
That goes mainstream. That's

2878
02:48:12,900 --> 02:48:14,100
what I said. I was very

2879
02:48:14,160 --> 02:48:17,520
John C Dvorak: specific. I was
very specific depends. Yeah,

2880
02:48:17,580 --> 02:48:20,300
okay, specific about it. But
listen

2881
02:48:20,300 --> 02:48:23,000
Adam Curry: to what this guy
says and tell me. What is he

2882
02:48:23,000 --> 02:48:24,500
really saying

2883
02:48:24,560 --> 02:48:28,280
Unknown: to the aha moment was
realizing that that unusual

2884
02:48:28,280 --> 02:48:32,540
reaction to covid matched
something in our own immune

2885
02:48:32,540 --> 02:48:37,460
system, so it acquired a target
against covid that matched us.

2886
02:48:37,520 --> 02:48:39,920
So was attacking both at the
same time.

2887
02:48:40,820 --> 02:48:45,580
Adam Curry: What is he saying to
me? It sounds like a kind of a

2888
02:48:45,580 --> 02:48:48,940
convoluted way of saying it was
something that matched covid

2889
02:48:48,940 --> 02:48:52,240
that was inside our immune
system. You mean, like mRNA

2890
02:48:52,240 --> 02:48:57,880
vaccine, or is it some other
thing that we don't know about?

2891
02:48:57,880 --> 02:48:58,540
Listen again,

2892
02:48:58,600 --> 02:49:02,100
Unknown: realizing that that
unusual reaction to covid

2893
02:49:02,400 --> 02:49:07,620
matched something in our own
immune system, so it acquired a

2894
02:49:07,620 --> 02:49:10,920
target against covid that
matched us, so it was attacking

2895
02:49:10,920 --> 02:49:12,480
both at the same time.

2896
02:49:12,599 --> 02:49:15,299
Adam Curry: What does that mean?
Wow,

2897
02:49:15,299 --> 02:49:17,699
John C Dvorak: that's an
interesting deconstruction of

2898
02:49:17,699 --> 02:49:22,279
the gobbledygook, yes, that this
guy expressed, but what he's

2899
02:49:22,279 --> 02:49:27,499
actually saying was, and most
people who had covid Were still

2900
02:49:27,499 --> 02:49:30,919
encouraged to get the shot Yes,
particularly, so there's that

2901
02:49:30,919 --> 02:49:34,519
element. But what he's saying
is, there's an, there's a

2902
02:49:34,579 --> 02:49:40,899
there's a x factor that causes
both the cause, both the covid

2903
02:49:40,899 --> 02:49:44,619
and this, this immune thing,
what is? But he doesn't just say

2904
02:49:44,619 --> 02:49:48,039
what the X factor is. The X
Factor in your argument would be

2905
02:49:48,039 --> 02:49:48,819
the VAX

2906
02:49:48,879 --> 02:49:51,399
Adam Curry: or, you know,
remember, there was HIV in these

2907
02:49:51,399 --> 02:49:55,839
vaccines. Was all kinds of stuff
in there, maybe not every single

2908
02:49:55,839 --> 02:49:58,479
one. And I don't want to freak
anybody out, if you feel good,

2909
02:49:58,479 --> 02:50:03,179
you feel good is. It is a small
percentage, but holy crap, this

2910
02:50:03,179 --> 02:50:04,679
is weird. Cut

2911
02:50:07,860 --> 02:50:08,640
John C Dvorak: out yourself.

2912
02:50:08,639 --> 02:50:11,099
Adam Curry: I did. Let me go
back. I'll play it one more

2913
02:50:11,099 --> 02:50:12,059
time, realizing

2914
02:50:12,240 --> 02:50:15,960
Unknown: that that unusual
reaction to covid matched

2915
02:50:16,140 --> 02:50:20,840
something in our own immune
system, so it acquired a target

2916
02:50:20,840 --> 02:50:24,740
against covid that matched us so
was attacking both at the same

2917
02:50:24,740 --> 02:50:25,160
time.

2918
02:50:25,459 --> 02:50:28,759
Now they're hoping to use their
findings to advance science,

2919
02:50:28,819 --> 02:50:29,479
knowing

2920
02:50:29,479 --> 02:50:34,759
that a virus can provoke an auto
immune reaction later on, and

2921
02:50:34,759 --> 02:50:39,259
having this proof allows us to
potentially develop therapeutics

2922
02:50:39,259 --> 02:50:41,799
and diagnostics for anything
like this that might occur in

2923
02:50:41,799 --> 02:50:43,479
the future. Now listen to her.

2924
02:50:43,599 --> 02:50:46,479
Now, these scientists are
hopeful this finding will help

2925
02:50:46,479 --> 02:50:49,779
understand other diseases,
including type one diabetes or

2926
02:50:49,779 --> 02:50:52,899
MS, that we know are linked to
viruses.

2927
02:50:53,260 --> 02:50:56,260
Adam Curry: Diabetes and MS are
linked to viruses

2928
02:50:57,819 --> 02:51:00,539
John C Dvorak: the shed
specifically, but diabetes type

2929
02:51:00,539 --> 02:51:02,219
one, which means your pancreas

2930
02:51:02,219 --> 02:51:05,159
Adam Curry: craps out, but
that's because of a virus. Now,

2931
02:51:05,639 --> 02:51:07,979
John C Dvorak: I don't know that
that's what she just said,

2932
02:51:09,840 --> 02:51:15,180
Adam Curry: linked to viruses,
and MS, NMS linked to viruses.

2933
02:51:17,819 --> 02:51:19,439
John C Dvorak: All right, asking
me questions out of the

2934
02:51:19,440 --> 02:51:21,380
Adam Curry: blue, I would like
to lift everybody up with a

2935
02:51:21,380 --> 02:51:25,520
short good news. I have very
good news for you. Ozempic may

2936
02:51:25,520 --> 02:51:27,200
have another side effect.

2937
02:51:27,800 --> 02:51:29,600
John C Dvorak: Have you heard
about the good news? It's a good

2938
02:51:29,600 --> 02:51:29,840
news.

2939
02:51:30,200 --> 02:51:33,200
Adam Curry: Good news, side
effect, better sex.

2940
02:51:34,100 --> 02:51:37,160
John C Dvorak: Of course, yeah.
There you go. Jacqueline

2941
02:51:37,159 --> 02:51:39,859
Adam Curry: Smith had a healthy
sex life until she began take

2942
02:51:39,919 --> 02:51:43,899
began taking ozempic to lose
weight. That's when she noticed

2943
02:51:43,899 --> 02:51:48,999
some dramatic changes. Smith, 35
and her husband of seven years,

2944
02:51:49,299 --> 02:51:53,499
went from having sex several
times a week to doing it daily,

2945
02:51:53,499 --> 02:51:58,059
sometimes more than once. Well,
I'd say this thing needs to be

2946
02:51:58,059 --> 02:51:59,319
on Medicare. Stat,

2947
02:52:02,559 --> 02:52:05,459
John C Dvorak: What a crock.
Yes, I'm

2948
02:52:06,000 --> 02:52:08,640
Unknown: gonna show my support
by donating to no agenda.

2949
02:52:08,820 --> 02:52:11,760
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be

2950
02:52:11,760 --> 02:52:11,940
fab.

2951
02:52:19,020 --> 02:52:21,020
Adam Curry: No agenda
donations.com is how you can

2952
02:52:21,020 --> 02:52:23,900
support this valuable work that
we feel we do for you. We give

2953
02:52:23,900 --> 02:52:29,060
it away to everybody. No hoops,
no levels, no jumps, no premium

2954
02:52:29,060 --> 02:52:32,840
content behind firewalls. You
support us if you get any value

2955
02:52:32,840 --> 02:52:36,140
from the show. And here are the
people $50 and above who

2956
02:52:36,140 --> 02:52:39,320
supported us today. Very kindly,
John, will you read them off for

2957
02:52:39,320 --> 02:52:39,560
us?

2958
02:52:39,559 --> 02:52:41,319
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we had a
little top heavy today. So

2959
02:52:41,319 --> 02:52:44,379
there's not that many, but we're
going to start with Greg Hoy,

2960
02:52:44,439 --> 02:52:49,119
hoy, hoy in Pacifica,
California, 133, 33 followed by

2961
02:52:49,119 --> 02:52:53,619
Michael Henry hearts unknown,
9272 and he wishes us I have all

2962
02:52:53,619 --> 02:52:56,259
right, me and Mimi a happy
anniversary. Thank you very

2963
02:52:56,259 --> 02:52:59,979
much. Very nice, sir, Johnny. Be
good in 9272 congrats on 36

2964
02:53:00,219 --> 02:53:05,039
years of wedding bliss. Never
had a fight. What I cooked? I

2965
02:53:05,039 --> 02:53:11,339
cooked filet mignon. Yes, yes.
Cooking that a lot, yes. Some

2966
02:53:11,339 --> 02:53:13,319
reason it's good. Where

2967
02:53:13,319 --> 02:53:15,059
Adam Curry: do you get your
filet mignon for you? I

2968
02:53:15,060 --> 02:53:18,300
John C Dvorak: get I get to, if
I can find them, if they have

2969
02:53:18,300 --> 02:53:22,220
them, I get the ultras hyper
trimmed at Costco, the whole

2970
02:53:22,220 --> 02:53:26,720
giant piece, the entire filet
Oh, that $110

2971
02:53:27,499 --> 02:53:28,039
Unknown: hunk

2972
02:53:30,379 --> 02:53:35,119
John C Dvorak: isn't that.
That's one price and more. It's

2973
02:53:35,119 --> 02:53:38,899
a lot. It's good for two meals,
and you can make a roast out of

2974
02:53:38,899 --> 02:53:43,299
the big fat end of it. And as a
roast beef filet mignon, roast

2975
02:53:43,299 --> 02:53:46,659
beef is a very appreciated dish.

2976
02:53:46,659 --> 02:53:49,719
Adam Curry: Maybe, if you're, if
you're nice, maybe Jason Rick

2977
02:53:49,719 --> 02:53:52,059
will send you something from the
ranch in Colorado.

2978
02:53:53,379 --> 02:53:56,079
John C Dvorak: Yeah, if I Yeah,
well, I'm sure there's gonna be

2979
02:53:56,079 --> 02:53:59,739
far superior to anything I can
buy on the opening Costco. Yeah,

2980
02:53:59,739 --> 02:54:03,959
for sure. Well, Costco is not
that bad, Sir. Camera, Chris

2981
02:54:03,959 --> 02:54:08,579
Baylor and curry Grafton,
Wisconsin, 89 and 97 he has a

2982
02:54:08,579 --> 02:54:14,219
very long note here. He's got a
birthday so that things always

2983
02:54:14,219 --> 02:54:14,459
say,

2984
02:54:16,319 --> 02:54:18,239
Unknown: Oh, he just, he does
give you the

2985
02:54:18,659 --> 02:54:20,959
Adam Curry: pronunciation guide
for Kaka,

2986
02:54:20,959 --> 02:54:28,519
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah, vote.
Kaka, Kaka, Kaka Na, Kaka Na,

2987
02:54:28,519 --> 02:54:29,839
Kaka Na, Kaka Na,

2988
02:54:29,900 --> 02:54:31,820
Adam Curry: we'll never forget.
Kaka Na,

2989
02:54:32,179 --> 02:54:34,639
John C Dvorak: I'll never forget
I said, What do I say? Kaka

2990
02:54:34,759 --> 02:54:39,439
Adam Curry: na, kakauna. Kaka
Na, Kaka, Kaka nah.

2991
02:54:41,600 --> 02:54:46,480
John C Dvorak: Kelly Hubbard,
$88 Happy anniversary, Baron of

2992
02:54:46,480 --> 02:54:54,100
the Gitmo nation coffee pot. 88
also have these are the leftover

2993
02:54:54,220 --> 02:54:56,380
anniversary donations. I
appreciate them really.

2994
02:54:56,380 --> 02:55:02,280
Harrington, Dame Rita and sparks
came in with 88 Uh, I'm up to

2995
02:55:02,280 --> 02:55:05,820
speed. And spun down. She says,
yeah, thanks to our media

2996
02:55:05,820 --> 02:55:10,740
deconstruction Mike McCoy in
Schaumburg, Illinois, 808 it's a

2997
02:55:10,740 --> 02:55:14,940
boob donation, and it's in
support of Kevin McLaughlin, who

2998
02:55:14,940 --> 02:55:19,980
came up. Is next in Concord,
North Carolina, 808 16. Always.

2999
02:55:20,219 --> 02:55:23,719
Adam Curry: Tina always asks me.
Says to Kevin McLaughlin, come

3000
02:55:23,719 --> 02:55:27,259
in again the Duke of lunacy. You
bet every single show he never,

3001
02:55:27,319 --> 02:55:27,919
ever

3002
02:55:28,639 --> 02:55:31,399
John C Dvorak: forgets it's been
going on for about three years.

3003
02:55:31,399 --> 02:55:34,339
Yeah, that's amazing. Thank you.
Maybe even longer. Thank you.

3004
02:55:35,119 --> 02:55:39,379
Todd, banner in the troll room.
Hey, Todd. Medford, Oregon, 5555

3005
02:55:42,559 --> 02:55:46,779
Todd, Mark Hardwick in Alito,
Texas, 53

3006
02:55:47,080 --> 02:55:50,980
Adam Curry: mystery, sir. Greg
with 5555 think we missed him.

3007
02:55:52,600 --> 02:55:57,220
John C Dvorak: Sir. Greg, 5555 I
missed him also. Mark says, I'm

3008
02:55:57,220 --> 02:56:04,800
Mark Hardwick, not Mary
Hardwick. That called

3009
02:56:04,799 --> 02:56:07,139
Unknown: America saga

3010
02:56:07,140 --> 02:56:13,800
John C Dvorak: Larson in uh,
Sweden, 5223 and since he came

3011
02:56:13,800 --> 02:56:16,560
in from Sweden, I'm going to say
once the wish is beautiful and

3012
02:56:16,560 --> 02:56:25,160
amazing partner, Ronnie, a happy
birthday today. All right, he is

3013
02:56:25,160 --> 02:56:27,860
my absolute favorite person.
Also want to introduce me to

3014
02:56:27,860 --> 02:56:33,020
your show a couple years ago.
This is saga saga, which I guess

3015
02:56:33,020 --> 02:56:34,640
is female name. Maybe

3016
02:56:35,420 --> 02:56:37,580
Adam Curry: now you don't know
they're Swedish. Maybe

3017
02:56:37,640 --> 02:56:42,220
John C Dvorak: they're Swedish,
Swedish. Amanda Adams in Fort

3018
02:56:42,220 --> 02:56:45,280
Wayne, Indiana, 5310, happy
anniversary. Bat. Oh, here we

3019
02:56:45,280 --> 02:56:49,780
go. Oh, we're interested in
location. Bad idea supply. Look

3020
02:56:49,780 --> 02:56:52,960
them up. You can look them up on
Google. Bad idea so they make

3021
02:56:52,960 --> 02:56:57,220
all kinds of things that you can
burn with. They make like

3022
02:56:57,640 --> 02:57:04,200
fireplaces for your patio, made
out of steel. Uh, William Spain

3023
02:57:04,200 --> 02:57:08,580
in spring Dale, Arkansas, 50.
Oh, now we got the 50s already

3024
02:57:08,580 --> 02:57:12,240
took that long, not long at all.
I'm just gonna go name and

3025
02:57:12,240 --> 02:57:15,900
location, starting with with
William and then Steven schumac

3026
02:57:15,900 --> 02:57:19,860
and Xenia. Michelle petty in
Grand Forks, North Dakota. Uh,

3027
02:57:20,460 --> 02:57:24,200
Tom del Vecchio in bland in
Pennsylvania. Andrew Grasso in

3028
02:57:24,200 --> 02:57:29,180
Mineola, New York. John spade in
Edmond, Oklahoma. Mike moon in

3029
02:57:29,180 --> 02:57:36,200
Athens, Georgia. Steven crummy
in El Cajon, California. Michael

3030
02:57:36,200 --> 02:57:42,880
ra goose Ragu, maybe Ragusa in
Tustin, Tustin, California, uh,

3031
02:57:43,180 --> 02:57:49,360
Brenda for Codd, I'm guessing,
in Paul's bow, Washington, too

3032
02:57:49,360 --> 02:57:52,600
little town, if you ever get a
chance to go through it. David

3033
02:57:52,660 --> 02:57:57,640
keckta, in sun tan Valley,
Arizona, with a long note, uh,

3034
02:57:58,180 --> 02:57:58,480
he's

3035
02:57:58,480 --> 02:58:01,140
Adam Curry: our end of show
mixer. David kecta, what does he

3036
02:58:01,140 --> 02:58:06,120
What is he saying? Uh oh, the
odomena showed me two sets of 33

3037
02:58:06,360 --> 02:58:10,080
clear indicating it's time to
donate. Thank you for suffering

3038
02:58:10,080 --> 02:58:12,960
my tip of the day jingles and
humoring me by playing my end of

3039
02:58:12,960 --> 02:58:14,880
show mixes. And last

3040
02:58:14,879 --> 02:58:17,999
John C Dvorak: on the list is
Elizabeth Little in Louisville,

3041
02:58:18,419 --> 02:58:24,019
Louisville, Texas, and it's a
short list total of 38 people,

3042
02:58:24,559 --> 02:58:27,679
which is not a lot. Want to
thank them all for helping us

3043
02:58:27,679 --> 02:58:33,439
get show 16. I don't know what's
the number 1685, 85 off the

3044
02:58:33,439 --> 02:58:36,139
ground and 15 away from a 1700

3045
02:58:36,500 --> 02:58:38,900
Adam Curry: it's a big deal.
Here is your Adam curry Dr

3046
02:58:38,900 --> 02:58:41,980
Pepper. Can test Ah, I got a
good one.

3047
02:58:43,479 --> 02:58:44,199
John C Dvorak: Got a good one.

3048
02:58:45,100 --> 02:58:48,280
Adam Curry: These are the
producers who support the show,

3049
02:58:48,340 --> 02:58:52,240
and there are producers who come
in under $50 who also support

3050
02:58:52,240 --> 02:58:56,080
the show. We do not mention them
for reasons of anonymity. Again,

3051
02:58:56,080 --> 02:59:01,080
we plead that you consider, in
addition to any mentionable

3052
02:59:01,080 --> 02:59:04,440
donation, a sustaining donation,
it really does help. We

3053
02:59:04,440 --> 02:59:08,400
appreciate it. Thank you so much
for supporting the best podcast

3054
02:59:08,400 --> 02:59:10,980
in the universe. For those who
need it, here's a little bit of

3055
02:59:10,980 --> 02:59:14,700
extra karma for you. You've got
karma and again, know what

3056
02:59:14,700 --> 02:59:16,260
you're the donations.com you

3057
02:59:23,299 --> 02:59:27,499
Dave, sir. Matthew turned 40 on
july 24 that's a belated Happy

3058
02:59:27,499 --> 02:59:30,919
Birthday. Jessica Mancuso,
wishes Dame Susan of the

3059
02:59:30,919 --> 02:59:34,939
parkways, a happy one. She
turned 81 yesterday. Happy

3060
02:59:34,939 --> 02:59:39,499
birthday, Sir. Camera. Chris
Baylor turned 39 yesterday. Dave

3061
02:59:39,499 --> 02:59:44,019
base or wishes faith and Bay sor
a happy one turning 50 today.

3062
02:59:44,259 --> 02:59:47,079
Saga Larson wishes her
beautiful, amazing partner,

3063
02:59:47,079 --> 02:59:50,619
Ronnie buchari a happy one and
Maddie McClure wishes Nick

3064
02:59:50,619 --> 02:59:55,179
Chapman a happy birthday. He
turns 42 on August 21 well in

3065
02:59:55,179 --> 02:59:58,179
advance and well meant, happy
birthday. Everybody here at the

3066
02:59:58,179 --> 02:59:59,919
best podcast in the universe.

3067
03:00:11,100 --> 03:00:15,360
Yes, we do have two title
changes today, Baron sur pursuit

3068
03:00:15,360 --> 03:00:19,080
of peace and tranquility. Now
becomes sir, pursuit of peace

3069
03:00:19,080 --> 03:00:22,700
and tranquility, Viscount of the
lands of red clay and cherry

3070
03:00:22,700 --> 03:00:26,360
blossoms, a beautiful title of
oversee one and Sir Victor,

3071
03:00:26,360 --> 03:00:30,080
Baron out of Willamette Valley.
Now is Sir Victor the Baron of

3072
03:00:30,080 --> 03:00:34,400
Willamette Valley as he upped
his his peerage earlier on. We

3073
03:00:34,400 --> 03:00:37,340
thank you both for supporting
the best podcast in the

3074
03:00:37,340 --> 03:00:40,840
universe. We have a we have two
nightings Today, a layaway

3075
03:00:40,840 --> 03:00:46,300
night. Now I only have two. What
about the guy? That's the second

3076
03:00:46,300 --> 03:00:50,980
one? Oh, okay, yes, sorry. And
so that is Sir cross, and we're

3077
03:00:50,980 --> 03:00:53,980
just going to, we don't know his
name, but if he wants to let it

3078
03:00:53,980 --> 03:00:57,580
be known later, we can always
add that. But we have a layaway

3079
03:00:57,580 --> 03:01:01,500
night. Tim DelVecchio, and he
says, Hey, I've been asleep at

3080
03:01:01,500 --> 03:01:04,200
the wheel of my regular
contribution on autopilot. I

3081
03:01:04,200 --> 03:01:07,200
realize this is how it happens.
People become knights. All of a

3082
03:01:07,200 --> 03:01:09,300
sudden. They're like, hey, wait
a minute. I passed knighthood

3083
03:01:09,300 --> 03:01:12,300
level a few shows ago. I listen
to every show and really

3084
03:01:12,300 --> 03:01:15,120
appreciate the work that you
both put in to deliver knowledge

3085
03:01:15,240 --> 03:01:18,720
and entertainment to us all. I
haven't been deduced yet, so

3086
03:01:18,720 --> 03:01:20,900
please deduce me. Whoops.

3087
03:01:24,260 --> 03:01:25,700
John C Dvorak: The book of
knowledge. No,

3088
03:01:26,300 --> 03:01:27,440
Adam Curry: I'll deduce instead.

3089
03:01:28,940 --> 03:01:31,760
Unknown: You've been deduced,
and he

3090
03:01:31,760 --> 03:01:34,340
Adam Curry: would like to be
knighted, sir Yankees fan. If

3091
03:01:34,340 --> 03:01:37,340
that's available, I believe it
is. Keep up the great work. ITM

3092
03:01:37,340 --> 03:01:41,860
Tim delvio, So, Tim, I've got a
blade right here, John, if you

3093
03:01:41,860 --> 03:01:44,320
can bring out your blade, then
we can get these guys. There you

3094
03:01:44,320 --> 03:01:51,400
go. Very nice. Okay, something
is right today. I'm off on all

3095
03:01:51,400 --> 03:01:56,440
the buttons. Hey, sir cross and
Tim, step on up. Both of you

3096
03:01:56,440 --> 03:02:00,360
have become knights of the no
agenda. Round Table. Sir cross,

3097
03:02:00,360 --> 03:02:04,500
of course, did that with a
massive triple donation and Tim

3098
03:02:04,500 --> 03:02:08,040
with a layaway night plan. They
both worked, so I'm very proud

3099
03:02:08,040 --> 03:02:11,880
to pronounce the Kate the SIR
Yankees fan and Sir cross

3100
03:02:11,880 --> 03:02:15,180
threaded wheel stud for you
gentlemen, we have hookers and

3101
03:02:15,180 --> 03:02:18,480
blow rent boys and Chardonnay
along with that, some diet soda

3102
03:02:18,480 --> 03:02:22,580
and video games, some harlots
and Haldol pepperoni rolls and

3103
03:02:22,580 --> 03:02:25,880
pale ales, redheads and rise
beers and blunts, rubiness women

3104
03:02:25,880 --> 03:02:29,480
and rose a vodka Manila bong
hits and bourbon ginger ale and

3105
03:02:29,480 --> 03:02:32,480
gerbils, breast milk and pablum.
But of course, there is always

3106
03:02:32,720 --> 03:02:37,280
the mutton and the mead here for
you enjoy that at the round

3107
03:02:37,280 --> 03:02:42,520
table. And while you're, you're,
you're pigging out there. Yes, I

3108
03:02:42,520 --> 03:02:47,440
see you. To Tim, please go to no
agenda rings.com check out the

3109
03:02:47,440 --> 03:02:50,560
beautiful Signet rings that we
have on display there. One of

3110
03:02:50,560 --> 03:02:53,260
them is for you. Is you give us
your address and your ring size.

3111
03:02:53,260 --> 03:02:56,800
There is a handy ring sizing
guide on that site. No agenda

3112
03:02:56,800 --> 03:03:00,160
rings.com and as always, it
comes accompanied with a

3113
03:03:00,160 --> 03:03:05,220
certificate of authenticity and
sticks of wax for you to sign

3114
03:03:05,220 --> 03:03:07,560
and seal your important
correspondence. Welcome

3115
03:03:07,560 --> 03:03:09,600
gentlemen to the round table.
Yeah, baby.

3116
03:03:17,940 --> 03:03:19,020
Unknown: The latte.

3117
03:03:19,380 --> 03:03:23,120
Adam Curry: I thought I had a
thought I had a meet up report.

3118
03:03:23,120 --> 03:03:26,780
I have two promos, so I might as
well play those. This is a

3119
03:03:26,780 --> 03:03:30,620
repeat promo, but it is coming
up. It is the Austin slash San

3120
03:03:30,620 --> 03:03:34,340
Marcos float meet up to big
deal. You float on the river and

3121
03:03:34,340 --> 03:03:35,660
then you have a meet up later
on.

3122
03:03:42,620 --> 03:03:45,100
Unknown: This is Baron Scott and
keeper Christine.

3123
03:03:45,160 --> 03:03:48,580
It's time again for the fourth
annual Central Texas float meet

3124
03:03:48,580 --> 03:03:50,860
set for Saturday, August 17.

3125
03:03:51,280 --> 03:03:55,120
We will start on the 72 degrees
Springstead, San Marcos River.

3126
03:03:55,480 --> 03:03:58,420
Then we'll meet the party over
the Ivers river pub overlooking

3127
03:03:58,420 --> 03:03:59,920
the river in the heart of San
Marcos

3128
03:04:00,340 --> 03:04:04,440
go to no agenda meetups for
details into RSVP to both the

3129
03:04:04,440 --> 03:04:07,680
morning three hour float and the
afternoon meet up. Remember,

3130
03:04:07,800 --> 03:04:10,560
connection is protection on the
river.

3131
03:04:13,620 --> 03:04:16,620
Adam Curry: There you go, Baron
Scott and Dame Christine. And of

3132
03:04:16,620 --> 03:04:19,440
course, we have the Kansas City
meet up. Always fun.

3133
03:04:20,760 --> 03:04:23,180
Unknown: It's sir Spencer here
inviting all the Kansas City, no

3134
03:04:23,180 --> 03:04:26,060
agenda, nights, dames and even
the lames to the next meet up at

3135
03:04:26,060 --> 03:04:29,300
a hidden gem burger joint in
North case e hamburgers. What

3136
03:04:29,300 --> 03:04:32,780
kind of hamburgers they got?
These big, juicy, home style,

3137
03:04:32,780 --> 03:04:34,340
grass fed beef burgers,

3138
03:04:35,899 --> 03:04:36,739
McDonald's,

3139
03:04:36,799 --> 03:04:37,939
Wendy's, Jack in the Box.

3140
03:04:37,940 --> 03:04:41,200
No, no, no. This is tays burger
shack on armor road. We're

3141
03:04:41,200 --> 03:04:41,980
talking about,

3142
03:04:41,979 --> 03:04:45,219
I hear they got some tasty
burgers. I never had one myself.

3143
03:04:45,580 --> 03:04:48,820
Why don't you come find out for
yourself next Sunday, August 18,

3144
03:04:48,880 --> 03:04:52,180
at 3:33pm catch some amygdala
therapy with your no agenda,

3145
03:04:52,180 --> 03:04:57,400
fam, and we'll have you saying
this is a tasty burger. RSVP at

3146
03:04:57,400 --> 03:04:58,780
no agenda meetups.com. You.

3147
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:03,420
Adam Curry: It All right, sir
Spencer, another no agenda

3148
03:05:03,420 --> 03:05:05,700
stream favorite. Here's what's
coming up. Meetup wise, you do

3149
03:05:05,700 --> 03:05:07,920
have one, actually a couple
taking place today, the

3150
03:05:07,920 --> 03:05:11,640
margarita meetup. Now you needed
to RSVP for that one. It's a

3151
03:05:11,640 --> 03:05:15,300
Palm Beach Gardens in Florida.
The Reiki princess is hosting

3152
03:05:15,300 --> 03:05:18,660
that. So hopefully we'll get a
report. The we drink, the we

3153
03:05:18,660 --> 03:05:22,280
know things. The Soviet Sunday
edition of the meetup. Three br

3154
03:05:22,280 --> 03:05:25,760
distillery, Keyport, New Jersey,
well underway. As we speak, the

3155
03:05:25,760 --> 03:05:30,320
save democracy and cat ladies
meet up 330 in Indianapolis. So

3156
03:05:30,320 --> 03:05:35,240
y'all can they're underway
there. That's day mark, Sir Mark

3157
03:05:35,240 --> 03:05:39,440
and Dave Maria, and that is at
the St Joseph brewery and public

3158
03:05:39,440 --> 03:05:42,880
house. We have the no agenda
southwest New Hampshire meetup

3159
03:05:42,880 --> 03:05:45,820
taking place in Keem, New
Hampshire at the king New

3160
03:05:45,820 --> 03:05:49,420
Hampshire local burger then on
Thursday, our next show day, the

3161
03:05:49,720 --> 03:05:53,500
Deutsch bags in the USA, five
o'clock at the Norwegian in

3162
03:05:53,500 --> 03:05:57,400
Rockford, Illinois, and the
monsoon Dodgers summer meet up

3163
03:05:57,400 --> 03:06:01,140
630 at the Denver Museum of
Nature and Science Park. Also

3164
03:06:01,140 --> 03:06:03,840
Charlotte's thirsty Third
Thursday meet up seven o'clock

3165
03:06:03,840 --> 03:06:07,140
at Ed Tavern in Charlottesville,
North Carolina. Many more

3166
03:06:07,140 --> 03:06:12,480
meetups to take a look at. They
are producer organized. We

3167
03:06:12,480 --> 03:06:15,540
sometimes we come to them.
Otherwise, we usually just hair

3168
03:06:15,540 --> 03:06:19,200
with there, with heads only, on
sticks, if at all possible. They

3169
03:06:19,200 --> 03:06:23,180
are fun to go to. You will meet
interesting and wildly different

3170
03:06:23,180 --> 03:06:26,060
people from anything you have
ever met, but you will all get

3171
03:06:26,060 --> 03:06:28,580
along because we all know
connection is protection, no

3172
03:06:28,580 --> 03:06:31,280
agenda. Meetups.com. If you
can't find one near you, start

3173
03:06:31,280 --> 03:06:32,540
one yourself. It's easy.

3174
03:06:32,720 --> 03:06:40,040
Unknown: Sometimes you want to
go hang out with all the nights

3175
03:06:42,380 --> 03:06:51,040
and days. Triggered, or, hell,
you wanna be where

3176
03:06:53,620 --> 03:06:55,240
everybody feels the same.

3177
03:06:55,239 --> 03:06:56,739
It's like a party. Yes, I

3178
03:06:56,740 --> 03:07:00,840
Adam Curry: have two ISOs. We
always like to choose them

3179
03:07:00,840 --> 03:07:04,440
before we end the show. It's an
ISO that we will end the show

3180
03:07:04,440 --> 03:07:06,780
with. Do you have any ISOs at
all? Actually? Yeah, you do.

3181
03:07:07,140 --> 03:07:08,640
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I have a
bunch of ice Okay, well, I'll

3182
03:07:08,640 --> 03:07:09,600
Adam Curry: do mine first. This

3183
03:07:09,600 --> 03:07:10,440
Unknown: is amazing.

3184
03:07:12,059 --> 03:07:13,979
John C Dvorak: Not bad, not bad.
What? Say it again.

3185
03:07:14,099 --> 03:07:17,459
Adam Curry: This is, well, you
didn't hear it, not really. Let

3186
03:07:17,459 --> 03:07:18,299
me play it again.

3187
03:07:18,359 --> 03:07:19,439
Unknown: This is amazing.

3188
03:07:20,040 --> 03:07:23,060
Adam Curry: This is amazing.
Okay, no, no. No, good, damn.

3189
03:07:23,179 --> 03:07:24,559
Unknown: This could be bigger
than Obama.

3190
03:07:26,959 --> 03:07:28,699
Adam Curry: Okay, you're
underwhelmed. How about you?

3191
03:07:28,699 --> 03:07:29,059
Wow. So

3192
03:07:30,739 --> 03:07:31,999
John C Dvorak: you didn't even
try.

3193
03:07:32,420 --> 03:07:34,520
Adam Curry: I didn't. You're
right. I was busy with other

3194
03:07:34,520 --> 03:07:34,940
stuff.

3195
03:07:35,600 --> 03:07:37,880
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's why I
get this. The simple ones, let's

3196
03:07:37,880 --> 03:07:39,320
go with Thank you. Thank you.

3197
03:07:40,639 --> 03:07:41,379
Unknown: It's not bad.

3198
03:07:42,879 --> 03:07:44,979
Adam Curry: Can't go wrong with
that. We can't go wrong.

3199
03:07:45,399 --> 03:07:45,879
Unknown: Thank you

3200
03:07:45,879 --> 03:07:47,439
so much. Thanks so much.

3201
03:07:49,059 --> 03:07:49,959
Adam Curry: No good, no good.

3202
03:07:49,959 --> 03:07:50,859
John C Dvorak: And then what's
up?

3203
03:07:51,040 --> 03:07:52,000
Unknown: What's up with that?

3204
03:07:53,979 --> 03:07:56,139
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
don't know. Maybe I'll do a

3205
03:07:56,139 --> 03:07:57,819
combo today. Let me see

3206
03:07:58,359 --> 03:07:59,799
Unknown: what's up with that.
Thank you.

3207
03:08:00,819 --> 03:08:02,639
Adam Curry: That sounds pretty
good. You don't like that, you

3208
03:08:02,639 --> 03:08:05,459
think, Well, how about if
anything, I just

3209
03:08:05,459 --> 03:08:07,019
John C Dvorak: like the other
way around. Thank you. And

3210
03:08:07,019 --> 03:08:07,559
what's up with

3211
03:08:07,559 --> 03:08:09,419
Adam Curry: that? Let me try
that one. Let me see how we do.

3212
03:08:09,419 --> 03:08:09,779
Thank you.

3213
03:08:09,960 --> 03:08:11,400
Unknown: What's up with that?
Okay,

3214
03:08:11,459 --> 03:08:15,539
Adam Curry: I can do that. That
works for me. Thank you. What's

3215
03:08:15,539 --> 03:08:18,539
up I just have to remember, hey
everybody about time to go, but

3216
03:08:18,539 --> 03:08:21,559
before we do it's always your
favorite moment of the show.

3217
03:08:26,899 --> 03:08:27,439
Unknown: That's not

3218
03:08:27,799 --> 03:08:31,639
Adam Curry: everybody. We'd like
to thank you out of the show

3219
03:08:31,639 --> 03:08:34,279
with a tip of the day.

3220
03:08:36,139 --> 03:08:38,779
John C Dvorak: All right, this
is a screwball tip. Unlike all

3221
03:08:38,839 --> 03:08:44,199
the others, people who just no
lube involved, the people who

3222
03:08:44,319 --> 03:08:48,279
have a mouse a rat problem in
their environment, yeah, it

3223
03:08:48,279 --> 03:08:51,939
happens. The latest thing now is
to use these birth control

3224
03:08:51,939 --> 03:08:56,019
mechanisms. What? And the
animals can't reproduce, and

3225
03:08:56,019 --> 03:08:59,079
they the generation dies off
right on the spot. The product

3226
03:08:59,079 --> 03:09:04,079
is called evolve for mice. Wow.
You look for a product called

3227
03:09:04,079 --> 03:09:10,319
evolve, and I get Mimi came up
with this idea as a tip. And I

3228
03:09:10,319 --> 03:09:14,339
said, you know, because
everybody like my idea of you

3229
03:09:14,339 --> 03:09:17,399
get a mouse or rat or something,
or you use a blue trap, you

3230
03:09:17,399 --> 03:09:20,479
can't catch them. You just
poison them with the deadliest

3231
03:09:20,479 --> 03:09:24,739
stuff you can't Oh, no. Hawk is
going to eat the thing and he's

3232
03:09:24,739 --> 03:09:27,799
gonna die. Because, I guess this
happens once in a blue moon

3233
03:09:27,799 --> 03:09:32,479
where some poor animal, you
know, sees a dying mouse or

3234
03:09:32,479 --> 03:09:36,379
something. Anyway, they even
bad. But no, because of all the

3235
03:09:36,379 --> 03:09:39,259
guilt ridden people in the
family, the other one is, yeah,

3236
03:09:39,259 --> 03:09:41,559
they don't want to go. They
don't want to go. They don't

3237
03:09:41,559 --> 03:09:46,479
want to keep going. Yeah, Contra
pest is another brand to look

3238
03:09:46,479 --> 03:09:51,039
for, which is for rats. Contra
pest, wow. And Evolve is the

3239
03:09:51,039 --> 03:09:54,819
other brand. So this you want to
get rid of your, uh, pests,

3240
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vermin, as I would like to refer
to them, which includes, to me,

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03:09:58,599 --> 03:09:59,499
dear, yeah.

3242
03:10:00,479 --> 03:10:02,819
Adam Curry: Uh, vermin. If you
could do that with D, you can

3243
03:10:02,819 --> 03:10:04,079
give this to deer as well.

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03:10:04,080 --> 03:10:06,600
John C Dvorak: No, no, this. The
thing about this stuff, it only

3245
03:10:06,600 --> 03:10:09,420
works on these, on these
rodents. So it's actually, just

3246
03:10:09,420 --> 03:10:11,400
say, one of the safer products
out there.

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03:10:12,000 --> 03:10:16,080
Adam Curry: Wow. All right,
excellent. Castrate your rats.

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03:10:16,140 --> 03:10:16,740
Beautiful.

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03:10:20,100 --> 03:10:23,960
Unknown: And now John C Dvorak,
with the tip

3250
03:10:24,080 --> 03:10:25,040
of the day

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03:10:25,160 --> 03:10:29,900
Adam Curry: and only the tip,
that's all we got for you. All

3252
03:10:29,900 --> 03:10:36,200
right, everybody coming up next
on the no agenda stream, or one

3253
03:10:36,200 --> 03:10:45,760
of those modern podcast apps we
have? Oh, abs in a six pack that

3254
03:10:45,760 --> 03:10:48,880
says sir, seat sitter. I haven't
heard him on the stream in a

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03:10:48,880 --> 03:10:52,960
bit. That's beautiful. Make sure
you listen to him. Hitachi

3256
03:10:52,960 --> 03:10:56,740
wonton is the title of that
episode. Well, that that offers

3257
03:10:56,740 --> 03:11:01,380
a lot of perspective. End of
show. Mix is dynamite. Mix from

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03:11:01,740 --> 03:11:06,120
Sir, hey citizen, also you heard
him earlier with a donation.

3259
03:11:06,420 --> 03:11:14,340
David Keck TA and we will be
back on Thursday to bring you

3260
03:11:14,340 --> 03:11:18,120
more media deconstruction. We
just keep it rolling, day in,

3261
03:11:18,120 --> 03:11:21,120
day out. Four more years coming
to you from the heart of the

3262
03:11:21,120 --> 03:11:25,340
Texas Hill Country, right here
in Fredericksburg, Texas, FEMA

3263
03:11:25,340 --> 03:11:28,040
Region, number six in the
morning. Everybody. I'm Adam

3264
03:11:28,040 --> 03:11:28,400
curry, and

3265
03:11:28,639 --> 03:11:31,939
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it's

3266
03:11:31,939 --> 03:11:34,819
overcast again and kind of
chilly. I'm John C Dvorak. We

3267
03:11:34,820 --> 03:11:38,120
Adam Curry: return on Thursday.
Please join us then, until then,

3268
03:11:38,240 --> 03:11:41,980
remember us at no agenda,
donations.com. Adios, Mo Foz, a

3269
03:11:41,980 --> 03:11:45,460
hooey, hooey and such.

3270
03:11:45,580 --> 03:11:46,180
Unknown: Donation sake,

3271
03:12:00,000 --> 03:12:08,400
donation segments are getting
short. What will it make for you

3272
03:12:08,400 --> 03:12:10,560
to show your support? Donations
are down. Oh, no, no, no, no,

3273
03:12:10,560 --> 03:12:10,740
look

3274
03:12:17,819 --> 03:12:22,259
at those type of videos. Oh, we
won't get four more years.

3275
03:12:22,259 --> 03:12:22,999
Donations are down. Your

3276
03:12:29,120 --> 03:12:34,160
douche bag friends give back
some value, or the show will and

3277
03:12:34,280 --> 03:12:35,600
the nations are down. Oh no, no,
no, no.

3278
03:12:42,680 --> 03:12:42,980
Look at

3279
03:12:53,260 --> 03:12:54,460
John C Dvorak: donations are
down.

3280
03:12:57,459 --> 03:12:58,479
Unknown: Donations are down.

3281
03:13:01,659 --> 03:13:03,419
John C Dvorak: Overall donations
are down no awful

3282
03:13:10,860 --> 03:13:14,280
Unknown: hats for this twice
weekly podcast. You make it

3283
03:13:15,000 --> 03:13:16,140
possible by

3284
03:13:17,459 --> 03:13:22,979
sending your cash. Donations are
down No no, no no no, no, no.

3285
03:13:35,360 --> 03:13:41,260
John C Dvorak: I tell you the
donations are down, that the

3286
03:13:41,260 --> 03:13:45,040
donations now I think everyone
should donate at least The cost

3287
03:13:45,040 --> 03:13:46,300
of their cable bill.

3288
03:13:48,520 --> 03:13:49,300
Unknown: Suggestions

3289
03:13:59,979 --> 03:14:18,179
are now, I donations are

3290
03:14:18,180 --> 03:14:19,980
Adam Curry: down 50% overall.

3291
03:14:19,979 --> 03:14:22,879
John C Dvorak: Donations are
down. Donations are down. Help

3292
03:14:22,879 --> 03:14:28,459
us out. Donations are down.
Donations are down. Donations

3293
03:14:28,460 --> 03:14:30,500
Adam Curry: are down because you
block. Comics are bloggers.

3294
03:14:32,059 --> 03:14:33,139
John C Dvorak: Donations are
down.

3295
03:14:39,080 --> 03:14:42,040
Unknown: Everything's about
priorities and so whether it's

3296
03:14:42,040 --> 03:14:45,100
time, whether it's talent,
whether it's treasures, all of

3297
03:14:45,100 --> 03:14:48,940
those things, we have to place a
priority on how we invest them.

3298
03:14:48,940 --> 03:14:49,180
Price

3299
03:14:58,360 --> 03:15:00,840
yourselves, Freedom lovers,
because. As we're about to dive

3300
03:15:00,840 --> 03:15:05,520
into a story that'll send chills
down your spine, the UK is

3301
03:15:05,520 --> 03:15:09,780
threatening to extradite and
arrest social media users,

3302
03:15:09,840 --> 03:15:13,200
including Elon Musk for their
posts,

3303
03:15:18,899 --> 03:15:22,519
humanity's really tough to kill
them like tyranny end up in your

3304
03:15:22,519 --> 03:15:28,159
grill to get you to get your
head screwed off, and now it's

3305
03:15:28,159 --> 03:15:31,399
time to screw that sucker on
straight like a laser beam.

3306
03:15:32,899 --> 03:15:34,039
So if you retweet that,

3307
03:15:34,160 --> 03:15:35,720
then you'll be publishing that,
and then

3308
03:15:36,799 --> 03:15:39,259
potentially you're committing
that offense. And we do have

3309
03:15:39,259 --> 03:15:42,159
dedicated police officers who
are scouring social media, their

3310
03:15:42,519 --> 03:15:43,419
job is to look for this

3311
03:15:44,380 --> 03:15:45,220
material and then

3312
03:15:46,179 --> 03:15:47,079
follow up with

3313
03:15:47,379 --> 03:15:48,579
identification, arrests and

3314
03:15:48,580 --> 03:15:52,900
so forth. And then he added the
cherry on top with whipped cream

3315
03:15:52,900 --> 03:15:53,620
and nuts.

3316
03:16:02,700 --> 03:16:03,120
Mora.org/n,

3317
03:16:05,760 --> 03:16:08,880
a thank you. What's up with
that? You?