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Adam Curry: What a great time to
be doing a podcast. Adam curry,

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John C. Devora. February 11 2020
for the show award winning given

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nation media assassination
episode 1633.

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Unknown: This is no agenda that

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Adam Curry: 25th is back on deck
and we're broadcasting live from

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the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region

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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry. And

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley we finally

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realize it Super Bowl Sunday.
I'm John Cena borax

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Adam Curry: kill. Yeah, sports
balls. Baby. We're all jacked

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and happy about sports Bo.

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John C Dvorak: And I will the
last two weeks in

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Adam Curry: sports ball.

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John C Dvorak: Yes. All these
sports ball talk shows is all

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they do. I mean, I don't know
how much you can talk about

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something to such an extreme.
Yak, yak, yak, yak, yak, yak,

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yak, yak, yak.

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Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Before we
continue, I want to warn

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everybody. Several times during
today's broadcast, we will be

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switching away to cutaways of
Taylor Swift. Oh,

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Unknown: we all need to calm
down and I'm not talking about

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the podcast I'm talking about
having Taylor Swift here.

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Adam Curry: There you go. Just
once in a while. We gotta cut to

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Taylor Swift. So we all have
seen that she's here.

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John C Dvorak: I think she's
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the halftime show.

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Adam Curry: Did this okay. Calm
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out on Do you think she's going
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halftime show with Usher Sure.
Naked. I wanted to give us a

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little props. I got a note from
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five M news quote quote, quote
news outlets were pitching NORAD

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to have Taylor's F Taylor
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called the Public Affairs
Office. They really wanted this

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just like Santa Claus. And they
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right. That is the it's the
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John C Dvorak: Well, the problem
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actually landed yesterday
morning. Is this true?

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Adam Curry: I thought she had a
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plane and visit day

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John C Dvorak: ahead. And so
she's already been back

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yesterday morning and she landed
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to Florida yesterday.

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Adam Curry: This is disappointed
ruined. Did

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John C Dvorak: that ruin the
idea for NORAD? Yeah,

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Adam Curry: that's
disappointing. I thought we're

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gonna get a tracking you know,
have her her cutaways of her

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convoy coming from the airport.
Will she make it in time? Will

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she make it in time?

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John C Dvorak: Oh, brother.
Yeah, that's what you would that

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would be ideal. If we were
producing it. We don't fake

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that. You know, it could still
happen. We

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Adam Curry: do that we would do
that. Right away.

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John C Dvorak: They could fake
it the way they did. The last

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good news clip from last show I
got a lot of flack from

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Adam Curry: Oh, I even Yes, yes,
people were very disappointed by

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they felt bad

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John C Dvorak: about the deed
being disappointed but including

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him. Oh, we have a Milwaukee
Police guy who did a lot of

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research on this and any
research found the city

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everything all the details. It
was it was a legit story. But my

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commentary and I never said it
wasn't a legit story. I said

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that it was sweetened with a lot
of staged clips within it, which

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is what NBC does they I think
they do some of the poorest news

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reporting.

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Adam Curry: I think I don't
think you covered your tracks

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very well. There was no I didn't
I forgot it. You didn't use the

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there's no evidence. I mean, you
did not do a great job.

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John C Dvorak: But the fact is
that there's no way that they

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some of those clips, they could
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right. Everybody loves you.
Especially a little girl in the

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backseat go Where's daddy? Where
did they get that

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Adam Curry: recording on? It's
okay. The thing that I was

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amazed by is that so many people
listen all the way to the end of

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the show. Like this is

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John C Dvorak: good. All the
cops do for sure this is this is

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good. We love cops in their car.
patrol of course

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Adam Curry: over what else
you're gonna do. Listen to the

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show. Of course. You know it.
All right. My assessment inside

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attack 25th amendment on deck.
Biden realizes he's in trouble.

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John C Dvorak: Biden doesn't
realize anything now.

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Adam Curry: Did you watch the
whole press conference from

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beginning to end? Yes.

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John C Dvorak: I watched the
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Adam Curry: was 17 minutes.
Okay. And the way the news cut

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this up, they're in on it,
obviously. Because yeah, he made

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a mistake about CC okay. I mean,
obviously, that's not your top

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level performance. Is
presidential material, but the

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way they were cutting it? Well,
I have some clips obviously, the

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way they were cutting in some of
his responses to make it look

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even worse. Yeah. T he came out
he was ready to defend his

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stance. He fumbled a few things,
but they turn this into he's a

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bumbling idiot. And his. Okay,
let's start off the main talking

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point, angry and defiant
president. Second,

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John C Dvorak: you're just going
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giving any background for anyone
who might be listening overseas

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or anyplace else about what
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background but

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Adam Curry: everybody
understands Taylor Swift. Biden

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came out? Well, it's in the
report. The background is in the

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John C Dvorak: go on and did
describe dude, a report came out

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Adam Curry: here but it's in
this it's in this clip. That is

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John C Dvorak: all covered in
the clip templates. Yes,

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Adam Curry: thank you for
slowing the pace down President

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Unknown: angry and defiant. My
memory is fine. In a hastily

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called evening news conference.
The President responding

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directly to Special Counsel
Robert hars reports on his

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handling of classified documents
on the document that included a

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blistering assessment of the 81
year old age and what the report

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has diminished faculties in
advancing age. The President

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slamming hers assessment that he
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Beau died. How

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the hell dare he raised? I don't
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to remind me when he passed
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The remarks coming hours after
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investigation uncovered evidence
that President Biden willfully

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retained to disclose classified
materials after his vice

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presidency, but said no criminal
charges are warranted in this

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matter. Adding to the jury would
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sympathetic well meaning an
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I will mean I'm an older man and
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Adam Curry: this the all have
the news reports, all the

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packages had this where where
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with poor memory. And they cut
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with poor memory. But in
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about that one sentence this
right for people. And most

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people, of course, don't watch
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like oh my god, that guy is
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Unknown: that bad. That IQ well
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later, the president confusing
Mexico and Egypt. When talking

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about the crisis in Gaza,

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the president of Mexico CC did
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allow humanitarian material to
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Adam Curry: And the other thing,
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I just want to point out that
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Israel. So it was separated by
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some clips about the documents
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give you some space to talk
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go back to the M five M analysis
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John C Dvorak: Well, first of
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here I want to play. That's what
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gaff that I thought was the bad
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beginning. When he's all upset
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today his son died, which I
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probably documented. But is is
the gaffe that he made right

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then when he when he came out to
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I still think is the was the big
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one minutes, the Biden, Our Lady
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Unknown: I know there's some
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and report about my recollection
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referenced that I don't remember
when my son died. How in the

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hell dare he raised that?
Frankly, when I was asked the

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question, I thought to myself,
wasn't any of their damn

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business. Let me tell you
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in and I were since the day he
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rosary he got from Our Lady of
this. Every Memorial Day we hold

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a service remember him attended
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people will love to?

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John C Dvorak: Well, yes, Our
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remember where it was now since
you Guadalupe, by the way for

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Adam Curry: since you bring that
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John C Dvorak: I guess,
screaming Reporter Well,

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Adam Curry: they were all they
were all screaming reporters. He

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had he said something under his
breath and then he came What I

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thought was quite the
revelation. He wants to talk

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about the hostage negotiation.
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yeah, how do I, how do I, how do
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revealing anything? So there's
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hard now to deal with this
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you know, I've been working
tirelessly in this deal. How can

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Adam Curry: How can I say this
without reveal? If I was, if I

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was in his niche, if I was asked
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actions taking place in the Gaza
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can get the delay for that
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wouldn't be able to extend that
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prospect that this fighting in
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negotiations, that listen

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Adam Curry: to what he says now
he talks about just before

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Unknown: you may recall, in the
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right before Hamas attacked
right after right before I was

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in contact with the Saudis and
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they would recognize Israel's
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them part of the Middle East and
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for certain things that the
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do. The commitments that we were
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items, I'm not going to go in
detail, but one of them was to

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deal with the protection against
their arch enemy to the

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northwest. And northeast, I
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Adam Curry: Who's the arch enemy
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northeast? Was he talking about

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John C Dvorak: Saudi Arabia? The
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Unknown: is by providing
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to defend themselves.
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timeframe with this broke out. I
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say. But it's not unreasonable
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understood what was about to
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it up before it happened.

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Adam Curry: So he's responsible?

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John C Dvorak: No, we, I think
this was actually discussed

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before when Hamas did their
thing on the seventh. Biden was

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in the process of, of closing
out the Abraham accords that

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were set up by Trump to
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Israel and Saudi Arabia, which
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Adam Curry: what he but he
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going to give him munitions that
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John C Dvorak: No, I don't
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Adam Curry: the guy's no good.
But you know, as the focus,

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John C Dvorak: So he, so today's
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watching Saki this morning. So
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a pen into the ground. And she's
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taking, like five Trump clips,
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mistakes. And she sews shows
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of Sioux Falls, South Dakota,
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Adam Curry: So hey, he's not the
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John C Dvorak: she goes on and
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both the same. And you know,
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hardly at the same league as
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claim that the audience she says
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make gaffes all the time. But
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of people. directors, producers,
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room where she says the
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a sprite, Donald Trump. Whoever
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time to settle into the fact
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boomers competing for the White
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Adam Curry: Now what did she
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John C Dvorak: she said 82 of
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John C Dvorak: not a sprite?
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That's not to get okay.

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Unknown: Whatever you may wish
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settle into the fact that there
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competing for the White House in
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John C Dvorak: Baby Boom get it
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a staff. If you have a staff of
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wouldn't happen. Biden is not a
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Adam Curry: He's from the great
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John C Dvorak: He's from the
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generation. The jet great
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John C Dvorak: The point is, is
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of guys that were you know, they
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probably not at war. They're
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it. He's not a baby boomer. The
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everything. All the silent
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tons of them, like Biden always
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group and they're not they're
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baby boomer. The baby boomers,
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Adam Curry: Fire the entire
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John C Dvorak: just it's the
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on and on and on about making
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makes gaffe, and he makes give
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Adam Curry: It's better for him
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agreement. Let me let me lead
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Because CBS, I think CBS was
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were cutting on the on the
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his mental capabilities
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sympathetic, elderly man who is
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want your president to be
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but he could that he leaned
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said, I am a sympathetic elderly
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Adam Curry: that's not what he
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report said thing

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Unknown: he's got to convince
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next several months. I mean,
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encapsulated with so many voters
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two guys, one who has to spend a
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courtroom, another who is
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perhaps too old and unable to do
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gotta figure out what these guys
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girl's point perception is
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to the voters, this is an
important year. And when he has

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these moments for Tony, I mean,
this is this is something that

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is glaring moving into this
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it'd be holding a press
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acuity and to mix up Egypt and
Mexico. Mexico is not even in

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the conversation. No questions
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of the press conference. It's
not a good look.

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Gaza. So he went to Mexico, who
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two countries before but we're
not President. Yeah. And that's

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and that's the real concern that
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that they're going to have to

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Adam Curry: do so. So my entire
analysis here, the media is not

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defending Biden at all. They're
doubling down, they're cutting

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in bits, where he was just
repeating what was in the report

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and making it sound as if he
said that last night as an idiot

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25th amendment on Deck. This is
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Because, you know, we only need
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John C Dvorak: no, when he did,
as far as I know, and you can

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correct me if I if you know, I'm
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be initiated by the Vice
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Okay, you want to I came out and
she's made big statements. Sharp

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Adam Curry: No, no, I disagree
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attack by Kamala or she's in on
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I think it was at the Naval
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completely different than I'm
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talking about the immediate
reaction which got most of the

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press the

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John C Dvorak: immediate
reaction I saw they got most of

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the presses were sitting down
saying the facts are wrong Biden

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sharpest attack.

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Adam Curry: I want you to listen
to this and see if I can change

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your mind set up question by
some rookie reporter who she

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thanks profusely in the
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then she goes on to compare
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wartime president.

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Unknown: I'm glad you asked.

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Adam Curry: I'm glad you asked
as we agreed to beforehand.

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Unknown: Listen, listen, I have
been privileged and proud to

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serve as Vice President of the
United States with Joe Biden is

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President United States. And
what I saw that report last

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night, I believe, is as a former
prosecutor In the comments that

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were made by that prosecutor,
gratuitous, inaccurate and

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inappropriate, October 7, Israel
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we were there. The other hours.
After that occurred together. It

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was an intense moment for the
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States of America. And I was in
almost every meeting with the

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President, I can take over
anytime I'm your war lady. In

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the hours and days that
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the Secretary of Defense, the
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our intelligence community, I
was there President was in front

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of and on top of it all, on top
of asking questions, and

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requiring that America's
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community and diplomatic
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know how many people were dead.
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Adam Curry: she goes on and on
and on to talk about how she was

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there. She was in every single
meeting, she was there with the

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heads of state with everyone
from intelligence, all the

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military guys, clearly,

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politically motivated, but it
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circuitous, I'm a prosecutor. So

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Unknown: I will say that when it
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responsibility of a prosecutor
in a situation like that, we

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should expect that there would
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than what we saw. Thank you.

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Adam Curry: Thank you for the
question. Thank you for the

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question. telling you my spidey
sense, says she's in on this and

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she will be the first to say I'm
sorry, Joe, you just gotta

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John C Dvorak: go. Well, that
would be entertaining. Yes, of

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course. I'm actually be a first
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got a lot of first coming up
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first indictment for glory the
second ever in history of of a

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cabinet member with Mayorkas.
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it's only happened once before
it was I think in the 1800s,

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where you had a president that
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then voted back in that would be
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first intended use of the 25th
amendment. I was I don't have

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the clip. But I was quite
disappointed. I should have gone

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back and scratch scrounge up the
clip. But I was quite

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disappointed in Dershowitz going
on about the 25th amendment

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saying the reason that the
framers put the 25th Amendment

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in place, which is his quote,
and then he went on with an

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explanation for how it works. I
was quite disappointed in that

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because it wasn't the framers
who, you know, George

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Washington, Hamilton's it was
his amendment. These are men,

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the 25th Amendment showed up
after Woodrow Wilson. Yeah,

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hardly a framers?

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Adam Curry: Well, unless so
there's a couple things that a

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couple theories we've had, it
can also, first of all, by

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invoking the 25th Amendment, we
can get him off the stage and

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then we can bring in other
people to run. So it is not

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necessarily that Kamala is going
to be president, but she could

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be used to bring in Newsom, or
obviously there's big, big mic,

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just to get him out of the way
or, or to ensure ensure and this

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is our true theory to ensure
Trump is going to win. We want

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Trump to win so that he can take
all the heat for all the crap

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that's going to happen. Clean it
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can't get
off that thesis completely. I

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also can't completely get off
the thesis that we may be

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dealing with a Biden who's
actually doing the bit of

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Vincent the chin Gigante,
they've had the one of the mob

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bosses who played like, played
himself as an idiot peeing in

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his pants walking around
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Adam Curry: I will tell you the
way he conducted himself

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watching from beginning to end,
he was more like that. He was

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more like a Dante, knowing what
he was doing. Yeah, he's

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fumbling a bit. But, but it felt
more like that. And like he was

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under attack from the inside.
Like, holy crap, I gotta get out

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John C Dvorak: I mean, you know,
it's funny. So I watched this

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whole thing, but I watched and
then I watched the after

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discussion with Peter Doocy.
Yeah, on Fox, who was

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immediately after the press
conference, Ducey was was

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talking to one of them I forgot
which one of the posts on one of

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the shows when that when when
Biden can came out and made that

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press, impromptu press
conference. And deuces

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explanation of the scene was so
alien to what the host that what

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I saw and what you saw what
everybody saw? Ducey says it

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seemed like a cacophony because
you had all these reporters

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screaming at him from all the
networks. And Ducey says it when

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you were there, Biden had
handled himself well, he thought

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he has a nasty remark toward
Ducey about his memory

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remembering that he wouldn't
have talked to him. Yeah, it was

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a kind of a try to make it a
joke and you couldn't do it.

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Ducey comes out and says, No, it
wasn't like that at all. It was

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pretty. It was pretty calm and

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Adam Curry: collected. This is
what this is what I'm saying had

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John C Dvorak: to be miked
funny.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, well, the
miking is out is always bad. And

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then never really good with
that.

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John C Dvorak: Does it sound
like a bunch of screaming

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reporters? And Ben, they had
close ups of Biden looking left

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and right. Like he was confused.
Yep. That she says that he

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didn't feel that he was actually
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Adam Curry: agreeing with Ducey.
It didn't feel like the way the

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packages have been had been put
together. It just you know, that

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guy came out first was the same
height as Biden. He had

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paperwork guy comes back, he's
crossing some stuff off. Biden

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is opening up, he's he sees what
he's what he's got. He's, he's

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he knows what to read. He's
still an old guy. So he flubbed

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some some obvious things. I'm
not saying he, he's not worthy

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of being 25th amendment ized.
But he was a lot calmer, like

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the Gonti theory comes much more
into play here. So I wish we had

448
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that clip from Ducey. I agree it
was he was being railroaded and

449
00:26:50,940 --> 00:26:55,290
I think he knew it. That's why
I'm thinking Kamala has that's

450
00:26:55,290 --> 00:26:57,810
the only way yeah, if you want
to do the 25th Amendment, you

451
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have to go through Kamala and
the majority of the of the

452
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cabinet. But then they have a
plan. This there's there's a

453
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plan afoot. Biden doesn't want
to leave. For sure.

454
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John C Dvorak: No, definitely
not. Here's

455
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Adam Curry: the 40 seconds about
the special investigation.

456
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Unknown: So the question, I
think the question for our

457
00:27:19,770 --> 00:27:23,580
viewers for the American people.
Is, is Robert, her this special

458
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prosecutor, special counsel? Is
he a political hack? Or did he

459
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see something in his five hour
interview that he thought was so

460
00:27:29,970 --> 00:27:30,840
significant, he

461
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,620
needed to describe

462
00:27:31,620 --> 00:27:34,260
it. He is a former Republican
Justice Department official,

463
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which is appointed Biden's
allies will continue to make in

464
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the coming weeks. This was
somebody who has come from a

465
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partisan or political background
and was trying to come up with

466
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something they anticipated it
would be a scathing report. I

467
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,980
don't think they anticipated
this personal of a call out

468
00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:53,610
there in his behavior. So much.
So the special counsel's office

469
00:27:53,610 --> 00:27:55,590
went back to him and said, Could
you please remove that you've

470
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:58,290
overstepped here? Yeah. As a
prosecutor, that's not fair.

471
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Adam Curry: I mean, this guy has
spoke written all over him. He

472
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was top aide to Rod Rosenstein.
He was liaison to Special

473
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,000
Counsel Muller for the
investigation of the Russia

474
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,730
interference. Yeah, Trump
nominated him. But Merrick

475
00:28:14,730 --> 00:28:18,630
Garland is in charge of him. I
mean, Merrick Garland. Come on

476
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:23,490
Merrick Garland. Let this guy do
this. None of that makes no

477
00:28:23,490 --> 00:28:24,180
sense.

478
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,100
John C Dvorak: Though, that I
think is a point on your favor.

479
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In the insofar as this is a
palace plot or whatever your

480
00:28:33,570 --> 00:28:37,860
stockpile, yes, a palace coup,
the palace palace coup, a palace

481
00:28:37,860 --> 00:28:43,380
coup is. So here we got the
Biden ducks analysis. This is

482
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from NTD. I've got to four
clips. But the two of the clips

483
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:53,160
are about Russia. It's just
changes. They change the topic

484
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,560
on me. But it actually becomes
more interesting.

485
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Unknown: President Biden has
addressed the Special Counsel

486
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report on his handling of
classified documents. Joining us

487
00:29:01,860 --> 00:29:05,400
now to explore the report as
well as Biden's response we have

488
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,820
investigative journalist Jeff
Carlson. He's also the co host

489
00:29:08,820 --> 00:29:12,480
of truth over news on Epic TV. I
want to start with Biden's

490
00:29:12,510 --> 00:29:17,460
documents case where a hers 350
Plus page report confirms that

491
00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:21,030
Biden committed multiple crimes
and possessing that material,

492
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saying that our Commander in
Chief quote risks serious damage

493
00:29:24,690 --> 00:29:28,650
to America's national security
that included exposing

494
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identities of clandestine CIA
officers and some of the most

495
00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:35,460
sensitive of America's foreign
agents abroad. But he added that

496
00:29:35,460 --> 00:29:38,970
Biden won't be prosecuted
because he's too mentally

497
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:43,200
unsound to face a trial. What
did you make of this report?

498
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:45,900
Well, there's two sides to the
report effectively, right.

499
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There's the body of the report
the evidence that's masked, and

500
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then there's the conclusion and
the report itself. I mean, make

501
00:29:52,170 --> 00:29:55,200
money you know, and make no
mistake, it is very damning. It

502
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,280
provides great detail as to what
Biden did. It even covers a

503
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,180
little Nolan's Don't worry that
goes all the way back to 21.

504
00:30:03,630 --> 00:30:06,300
When documents were at the Biden
Pen Center that walks through

505
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:09,960
the entirety of that it makes
very clear that, you know, Biden

506
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,900
should have been prosecuted
except for the conclusion, and

507
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:16,230
that is that Biden is not
mentally competent to be

508
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prosecuted. And it's those
statements that are causing a

509
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,540
firestorm for everybody right
now.

510
00:30:23,010 --> 00:30:26,790
On that note, following this
report, Biden gave a surprise

511
00:30:26,790 --> 00:30:30,150
address to the nation now one
exchange that came up with this.

512
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,560
President Biden,

513
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:35,220
something that special counsel
said in his report, is that one

514
00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:38,910
of the reasons you are not in
charge is because in his

515
00:30:38,910 --> 00:30:43,680
description, you are a well
meaning elderly man with a poor

516
00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:44,280
memory.

517
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,060
I will mean, I'm an older man,
and I know what the hell I'm

518
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:50,610
doing. I've been President, I
put this country back on its

519
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feet.

520
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,500
Is your memory. And can you
continue as president?

521
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:58,230
My memory is so bad, I let you
speak.

522
00:31:00,570 --> 00:31:04,410
Adam Curry: Hold on, I just had
another thought. It is entirely

523
00:31:04,410 --> 00:31:09,540
possible that the M five M has
been instructed to focus only on

524
00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:12,750
the memory and not on the
report, because the report is

525
00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:16,080
indeed very damning. How about
that?

526
00:31:16,110 --> 00:31:18,600
John C Dvorak: Oh, I like that
one. Because because I'm

527
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,990
thinking back on what was
reported, they are concentrating

528
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:26,850
on this. And they're downplaying
the report, the report itself,

529
00:31:26,910 --> 00:31:30,630
Adam Curry: which is 300 pages
of incredible Yeah, he's

530
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:32,010
John C Dvorak: got he's giving
away

531
00:31:33,930 --> 00:31:40,230
Adam Curry: doing it after he
was VP. Right. So it's possible

532
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:43,950
that all of this is just to
focus on that. And as we know,

533
00:31:43,950 --> 00:31:48,420
Fox News is run by Democrats. So
here Ducey focus on this, and

534
00:31:48,420 --> 00:31:52,560
the President had a punch line
for him. Yeah, which I'm not

535
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,210
thinking was on the history of

536
00:31:54,210 --> 00:31:57,270
John C Dvorak: comedy was forced
to liberate. Well, that's

537
00:31:57,270 --> 00:31:59,040
Adam Curry: what I'm thinking it
might have been written like,

538
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,650
you know, that's what I'm
thinking now. All of a sudden,

539
00:32:01,650 --> 00:32:02,910
that's very possible.

540
00:32:05,910 --> 00:32:08,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there, I
think that that actually might

541
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:09,630
be the answer.

542
00:32:10,290 --> 00:32:12,840
Adam Curry: Well, you know, if
you don't mind me interrupting

543
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:18,390
for a second, your clip, Meet
the Press. Kristen, for some

544
00:32:18,390 --> 00:32:21,510
reason need to bring in chip
Todd, chug, chug, hurry, what's

545
00:32:21,510 --> 00:32:28,860
his name? Chug, chug, hurry.
And, and I think he has in this

546
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,410
clip, I think he has, you know,
the only plan the only thing

547
00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:32,070
that they can do,

548
00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:35,460
Unknown: let's talk about the
politics of this. Some of the

549
00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:39,150
language in this report is just
damning. You can't get around it

550
00:32:39,150 --> 00:32:42,960
an elderly man with a poor
memory. He's in the fight of his

551
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,980
political life. I

552
00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:46,650
Adam Curry: love this. This.
This is this may be what's going

553
00:32:46,650 --> 00:32:49,980
on, John, the report is damning.
He's an elderly man. How about

554
00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:52,110
giving up CIA assets? Well,

555
00:32:52,110 --> 00:32:54,090
Unknown: and it's also when is
it coming? Right? It's coming on

556
00:32:54,090 --> 00:32:57,660
the heels of just like more of
the senators. He's accumulating

557
00:32:57,660 --> 00:33:00,780
this this sort of a narrative
that is the classic death by

558
00:33:00,780 --> 00:33:05,790
1000 cuts, right? You know, the,
the coal and the Helmut Kohl and

559
00:33:05,790 --> 00:33:09,300
the Francoise miter on, and it's
these, these tiny little things,

560
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:12,900
and every moment, of course,
getting amplified by the right

561
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:15,930
wing noise machine. And it
certainly does. You're seeing

562
00:33:15,930 --> 00:33:19,680
with this in this in this
report. There's an easy way,

563
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,040
though, for the White House to
basically make this report

564
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,950
pointless about his memory,
which is what I'm out there.

565
00:33:26,010 --> 00:33:29,430
Yeah, let's see them out there
all the time. The easiest way to

566
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:32,790
get rid of this storyline is to
get them out there. Oh,

567
00:33:32,820 --> 00:33:35,550
Adam Curry: yes. Get them out
there. This report, the report

568
00:33:35,550 --> 00:33:39,690
is only damning because he's,
you know what, it all comes

569
00:33:39,690 --> 00:33:43,530
together. Put that hey, this is
Merrick Garland, who listen to

570
00:33:43,530 --> 00:33:47,190
her? Listen to me, I see all
these issues we've got going on

571
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:49,710
here, put something in there
that makes him look like an old

572
00:33:49,710 --> 00:33:55,650
turd. And we'll focus everybody
on that. There's nothing about

573
00:33:55,650 --> 00:33:57,090
the report itself. You're

574
00:33:59,010 --> 00:34:02,340
John C Dvorak: preoccupied with
insult?

575
00:34:02,370 --> 00:34:06,270
Adam Curry: And Chip, Chuck is
even saying oh, the right wing

576
00:34:06,270 --> 00:34:09,390
noise machine will focus on
that, like focus on that focus

577
00:34:09,390 --> 00:34:12,630
on that focus on that. And I
guarantee you the info Mavericks

578
00:34:12,630 --> 00:34:14,010
will be focusing on that.

579
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Unknown: Oh, focus? Yes, yes,
this

580
00:34:17,250 --> 00:34:19,740
Adam Curry: is it. Let's go back
to the document itself. I'm glad

581
00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:20,670
you have these clips.

582
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Unknown: What's your reaction to
this exchange? Well,

583
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I mean, first of all, you have
to consider the fact that they

584
00:34:29,790 --> 00:34:32,730
felt compelled that they had to
do this press conference in the

585
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first place. In other words,
they recognize that this report

586
00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:39,780
was indeed that bad on both
sides of it, both on terms of

587
00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:43,380
the evidence and in terms of
their conclusion. But think

588
00:34:43,380 --> 00:34:47,340
about it this way. Biden is
either too senile to be

589
00:34:47,340 --> 00:34:52,110
prosecuted, or he should be
prosecuted. Biden is either, you

590
00:34:52,110 --> 00:34:56,190
know, not competent to stand
trial. But conversely, is he

591
00:34:56,190 --> 00:34:58,560
competent to be president? I
mean, these are the very real

592
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,870
questions that determine a
Democrat The party is facing

593
00:35:00,870 --> 00:35:01,500
right now.

594
00:35:01,710 --> 00:35:03,780
Adam Curry: Well, now anti D is
falling into it.

595
00:35:05,879 --> 00:35:09,569
John C Dvorak: It's hard not to
it's the best part. Yeah. But

596
00:35:09,569 --> 00:35:12,509
it's more entertaining than
finding out that this guy is a

597
00:35:12,539 --> 00:35:15,749
complete loser with all these
documents that he has scattered

598
00:35:15,749 --> 00:35:20,699
all over that the photos, you
know, busted boxes, handwritten

599
00:35:20,699 --> 00:35:24,449
notes. And then at his press
conference, sorry, we don't have

600
00:35:24,449 --> 00:35:29,069
the whole thing. He denies it.
He says the report exonerates

601
00:35:29,069 --> 00:35:33,449
him. Yeah, no. And he everything
was in luck. We locked in filing

602
00:35:33,449 --> 00:35:35,909
cabinets and nothing was in
locked filing cabinet. So

603
00:35:35,909 --> 00:35:37,109
they've done a good job

604
00:35:37,140 --> 00:35:39,990
Adam Curry: of twisting. He said
I didn't have my staff moved him

605
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:41,550
as my staff. I can't You can't
blame

606
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,270
John C Dvorak: your staff under
the bus. Wow.

607
00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:48,870
Adam Curry: It may it may be
this is it. The report is so

608
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:52,230
bad. And from what I've seen, it
is so bad. They didn't want that

609
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:57,600
to be the focus. Mm hmm. Huh.
Okay, brings a new

610
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,490
John C Dvorak: layer where you
can spike the ball later. Let's

611
00:35:59,490 --> 00:36:04,710
go. Now what happens now is they
slightly changed the subject.

612
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:07,050
And it actually becomes kind of
more interesting as he talks

613
00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:07,920
about Russia.

614
00:36:08,190 --> 00:36:10,980
Unknown: And Now switching gears
a little bit. Fox News, former

615
00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:14,040
Fox News host Tucker Carlson has
been making headlines with his

616
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,460
interview with Russian President
Vladimir Putin. Now there's been

617
00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:20,250
mixed reactions, especially in
the media world, with even the

618
00:36:20,250 --> 00:36:23,940
EU proposing sanctions on him.
What did you make of his

619
00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:26,160
interview, but also the
reactions around it?

620
00:36:27,540 --> 00:36:30,240
You know, I found the reactions
predictable. I think the media

621
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:33,810
is terrified both at what, you
know, Putin's demonstration of

622
00:36:33,810 --> 00:36:38,280
competence is grasp of history.
But also, you know, like during

623
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,180
that interview, he made it very
clear that he was open to having

624
00:36:42,180 --> 00:36:45,510
a negotiated settlement to the
war in Ukraine. And yet, you

625
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:48,720
know, that's been an ongoing
effort where there's a continual

626
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:52,710
demand for funds to keep funding
a war in Ukraine that's frankly

627
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:55,860
unwinnable and is always in my
estimation, anyway, it has

628
00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:57,030
always been unwinnable.

629
00:36:57,210 --> 00:37:00,120
Now, the Tucker Putin interview
covered a range of topics,

630
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,940
including AI, and even Elon
Musk. But what was most

631
00:37:02,940 --> 00:37:04,440
surprising to you,

632
00:37:04,770 --> 00:37:08,160
the length of it, the fact that
he was willing to there was it

633
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,950
was such a breadth of topics
that were covered. You know,

634
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:14,010
this, this meeting went this
interview went more than two

635
00:37:14,010 --> 00:37:16,890
hours in length. Again, though,
the first thing that I

636
00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:19,740
gravitated to was Putin's
throwing out there of his own,

637
00:37:19,980 --> 00:37:22,680
you know, very forthright that
he wanted a negotiated

638
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,920
settlement to Ukraine. That's
probably the thing, first and

639
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,670
foremost, that grabbed my
attention, as well as the fact

640
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:33,750
this understanding of history
and that Russia, I think, as a

641
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:37,560
country is much more tied to
their history than

642
00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:41,070
unfortunately, we are here in
the United States right now.

643
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,400
Adam Curry: I think it's correct
that NTD switches to that,

644
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,130
because a was also Well, time to
cover up massive coverage of the

645
00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:53,220
Tucker Putin interview, there
was very little time for anyone

646
00:37:53,220 --> 00:37:56,580
to do it cover any of the
content of it. And by the way,

647
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,030
he was very specific that Boris
Johnson was the one that went

648
00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:03,000
into because I watched that
whole that was tedious to watch

649
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:07,830
the whole Tucker interview. But
Putin very exactly as we

650
00:38:07,830 --> 00:38:11,160
predicted, described,
specifically, hey, the documents

651
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,610
were there. Boris Johnson flew
in said, no, no, no, no, you're

652
00:38:14,610 --> 00:38:17,370
not, you're not going to sign
that you're going to fight. They

653
00:38:17,370 --> 00:38:21,390
didn't say that in the NTD
analysis. But it was also just a

654
00:38:21,390 --> 00:38:24,330
great cover up. And when you're
done with these clips, I have

655
00:38:24,330 --> 00:38:27,240
some, I think some responses to
the Tucker I do

656
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:31,410
John C Dvorak: want to mention
something which is I was reading

657
00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:35,100
various discussions where they
kind of pass over this this

658
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,260
interview with Putin and almost
everybody in the mainstream

659
00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:43,980
media claims, and he started
looking into it. They all say,

660
00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:46,500
Well, the thing about it is we
have to stay in this work

661
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:48,840
because Putin doesn't want to
negotiate.

662
00:38:48,990 --> 00:38:50,490
Adam Curry: Yeah, which is
exactly

663
00:38:50,490 --> 00:38:55,290
John C Dvorak: the opposite of
what lie. All he wants to do is

664
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negotiate.

665
00:38:56,250 --> 00:39:00,210
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. I don't
want to go back to Poland. And I

666
00:39:00,210 --> 00:39:02,610
don't want to do it. Just
listen, negotiate this thing

667
00:39:02,610 --> 00:39:04,770
out. Let's do it, bro. That's my

668
00:39:04,770 --> 00:39:07,020
John C Dvorak: daughter's on and
on about the Minsk agreements

669
00:39:07,020 --> 00:39:10,590
where everybody was ready to
negotiate. And that was the

670
00:39:10,590 --> 00:39:13,590
Boris Johnson thing I think he's
doing pulled the plug on Minsk.

671
00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:17,820
Yes. And so this is just like
we're just being scammed by the

672
00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:21,030
media in terms of their with the
way they're presenting stuff to

673
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:21,870
us. Well,

674
00:39:21,870 --> 00:39:25,560
Adam Curry: the focus is what's
so amazing is how the focus is

675
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,400
put on certain things. That
again, you know, you're getting

676
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,600
the same clips on Twitter,
you're getting the same talking

677
00:39:33,630 --> 00:39:37,590
points and focus really focus
from the from the alternative

678
00:39:37,590 --> 00:39:40,020
media, what I call the info
Mavericks, like all other

679
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:43,470
lawyers talk about this with
this. I wonder how many people

680
00:39:43,470 --> 00:39:45,960
actually watched all two hours
and seven minutes besides you

681
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:53,280
and I? Were all 17 minutes of
Biden, this is no longer done. I

682
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,920
think people just sniffing each
other's butts and getting each

683
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:56,730
other's clips.

684
00:39:56,790 --> 00:40:00,000
John C Dvorak: Well, they're
there. Yeah. It doesn't take

685
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,350
Eugenius to watch 70 minutes of
Biden. Alright, let's go to part

686
00:40:04,350 --> 00:40:07,170
two of this. And then there's
just one other aspect, which is

687
00:40:07,170 --> 00:40:10,020
the kind of the most interesting
part of it. I don't know what's

688
00:40:10,020 --> 00:40:11,280
going to come of it. And

689
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,920
Unknown: one thing that seems to
be standing out to some was the

690
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,010
binder that Tucker was holding.
What did you make of that?

691
00:40:17,250 --> 00:40:20,730
Yes, in many respects,
especially in kind of light of

692
00:40:20,730 --> 00:40:23,850
the overshadowing events
yesterday, that was the thing

693
00:40:23,850 --> 00:40:27,240
that I thought was the most
interesting at the very end. And

694
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:30,300
Tucker made a point of showing
it for those that didn't see,

695
00:40:30,510 --> 00:40:35,100
Tucker was given a very large
binder of documents from Putin

696
00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:39,240
to bring back in. It's unknown
what's in there. But not only

697
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:41,490
did you see that at the end of
the VNA interview in the

698
00:40:41,490 --> 00:40:45,360
handoff, but Tucker made a very
real point of posting that as a

699
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,930
separate clip, just he in the
binder alone, and without

700
00:40:48,930 --> 00:40:51,900
telling us what's in there,
making very clear what it was

701
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:55,440
and pointed it out to everybody.
So a lot of curiosity

702
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,080
surrounding what's exactly in
all those documents.

703
00:40:58,140 --> 00:41:00,120
Adam Curry: Oh, I know what's in
the binder doesn't everybody

704
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,940
know? I thought that was well
known. You don't see the binder

705
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,530
pictures of Taylor Swift.

706
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:11,280
John C Dvorak: I wonder where
you're gonna go with that.

707
00:41:14,010 --> 00:41:17,280
Kennedy, he's got this binder,
which is means as soon as Tucker

708
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,190
gets back on the airplane, he'll
be debriefed by a bunch of CIA

709
00:41:20,190 --> 00:41:21,960
guys. Russia, he's always wanted
to be as

710
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,010
Adam Curry: as as Putin even
pointed out, you wanted to be a

711
00:41:26,010 --> 00:41:28,290
CIA guy that wouldn't have they
wouldn't have yet.

712
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:35,070
John C Dvorak: Supposedly, yeah.
And supposedly, supposedly, and

713
00:41:35,070 --> 00:41:38,790
so they're gonna go over the
stuff with the fine tooth comb.

714
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:42,450
Now the problem is, is that
what's Tucker gonna do with

715
00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:46,530
this? Is he going to get release
it, you know, if you release

716
00:41:46,530 --> 00:41:50,070
part of it, of the binder, and
you don't release it all, you

717
00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:53,040
know, Putin has got a second
copy that he can come to, here's

718
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,650
what they didn't release. And
this is what's important. You

719
00:41:55,650 --> 00:41:59,250
know, it could be a setup or
something like for for a stunt

720
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:03,840
like that? It could be there's
it who knows, well, this is what

721
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:07,890
we're gonna find out eventually.
But the binder is swift

722
00:42:08,070 --> 00:42:10,620
Adam Curry: comes into play.
It's like whatever, whatever it

723
00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:17,790
is. It'll be aI generated fake.
Baby. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's

724
00:42:17,790 --> 00:42:18,930
John C Dvorak: what you could
do. So

725
00:42:19,050 --> 00:42:22,770
Adam Curry: Tucker Carlson might
be prosecuted for under the

726
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:30,960
Espionage Act and lawyer or just
as just noise, just noise. You

727
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,770
know, tech companies will be
testing European Union law,

728
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:38,220
regulating lies. You know, you
can't put that on the internet.

729
00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:41,910
You can't put that on your
platform. It's lies. And most

730
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:46,380
importantly, I want you all to
know, Tucker Carlson is not a

731
00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:47,100
journalist. He

732
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:49,530
Unknown: is not a journalist. He
is not someone that you need to

733
00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:52,530
take seriously. In fact, he's
someone who there would be no

734
00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:55,860
reason to take him seriously. So
he cannot be held liable for the

735
00:42:55,860 --> 00:42:58,410
things that he says so to try to
couch what he's doing right now

736
00:42:58,410 --> 00:43:01,290
is supposedly being being about
journalism is absolutely

737
00:43:01,290 --> 00:43:01,950
ridiculous.

738
00:43:01,950 --> 00:43:02,640
Tucker Carlson

739
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,080
John C Dvorak: is going to be
there and be the journalist that

740
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,490
none of us are actually

741
00:43:05,490 --> 00:43:08,430
Unknown: Tucker, you are not in
journalism a long time ago.

742
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:12,120
Sure. But these days, you've
been in the propaganda business.

743
00:43:12,270 --> 00:43:14,730
And yeah, journalist in quotes.
Yes.

744
00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:17,670
I'm alive say his name. Yes.
Yes, I'm just his name is Tucker

745
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:22,410
Carlson. And he is the only
American journalist who has been

746
00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:25,980
able to interview Putin since
the invasion in 2022. Tucker

747
00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:30,660
Carlson is not a journalist. Not
even close. Why he's doing this

748
00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:33,630
interview. Now, obviously, for
the Kremlin, it makes sense if

749
00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:36,270
they want to talk. It's a
friendly, it's a friendly voice,

750
00:43:36,270 --> 00:43:39,570
but we will keep trying our best
to actually commit journalism.

751
00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:44,100
We have already decided you are
literally the worst media figure

752
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:46,380
imaginable to be doing an
interview with Russia's Vladimir

753
00:43:46,380 --> 00:43:49,140
Putin. You have no journalistic
credibility.

754
00:43:49,170 --> 00:43:53,130
None that I mean, he's like a
puppy dog. I find it gobsmacking

755
00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:55,800
terrifying to ally and it's
clear, like we talked about, you

756
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,950
know, disinformation on social
media. Well, disinformation from

757
00:43:58,950 --> 00:44:00,900
people like Tucker Carlson,

758
00:44:00,990 --> 00:44:03,720
Adam Curry: Tucker Carlson is
lying from the streets of

759
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:07,590
Russia, no less. So he's not a
jerk. What is the journalist now

760
00:44:07,590 --> 00:44:11,070
do you have to go to journalism
school to be considered a

761
00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:14,220
journalist? I just want to get
this straight skinny on this.

762
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,390
John C Dvorak: Well, it depends
on your definition. Bloggers are

763
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:22,050
considered journalism in some
quarters. You can define it in a

764
00:44:22,050 --> 00:44:24,720
lot of different ways. But
anyone who keeps a journal would

765
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:27,990
be a journalist, anyone who's a
reporter reports on something

766
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:32,400
would be a journalist to be
tactic. There's no licensing in

767
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,730
the United States, in some
countries to be a journalist,

768
00:44:35,730 --> 00:44:40,290
for example, Brazil, you have to
have a license, maybe the

769
00:44:40,290 --> 00:44:44,520
government and that's the way to
go and they would like that here

770
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,430
too. But no, no, you can be you
can just call yourself a

771
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:52,590
journalist and you are I would
use the term ipso facto, a

772
00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:54,840
journalist, ipso

773
00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:00,090
Adam Curry: facto, if you use
the word ipso facto, you are are

774
00:45:00,090 --> 00:45:03,840
in fact a journalist right that
absolutely. Here's Chris Wallace

775
00:45:03,870 --> 00:45:04,170
Tucker

776
00:45:04,170 --> 00:45:06,900
Unknown: Carlson showed up in
Moscow this week to interview

777
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:11,250
Vladimir Putin. It turned out to
be anything but an interview.

778
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,390
No, Putin droned on for two
hours and seven minutes wasn't

779
00:45:15,390 --> 00:45:17,970
an interview he did let him
drone on. While Tucker is out

780
00:45:17,970 --> 00:45:20,520
there like an eager puppy, eager
puppy. Oh, where

781
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,510
Adam Curry: have I heard this
before?

782
00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:24,300
Unknown: I mean, he's like a
puppy dog because he is a useful

783
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:28,110
idiot. Oh, occasionally, but
rarely. He got an a question

784
00:45:28,410 --> 00:45:32,430
like this one about the power of
the deep state in Washington.

785
00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:37,830
It sounds like you're describing
a system that's not run by the

786
00:45:37,830 --> 00:45:43,410
people who are elected in your
telling you it's true.

787
00:45:45,780 --> 00:45:48,750
But more telling them what
Tucker asked is what he didn't

788
00:45:48,750 --> 00:45:52,740
ask nothing about why Putin
invaded a sovereign country.

789
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,060
Nothing about targeting
civilians. Nothing about Russian

790
00:45:57,060 --> 00:46:02,250
war crimes. A reporter can ask
Putin a tough question. If he

791
00:46:02,250 --> 00:46:06,660
wants a real interview. Listen
to this. Why is it that so many

792
00:46:06,690 --> 00:46:12,450
of the people that oppose
Vladimir Putin end up dead or

793
00:46:12,450 --> 00:46:13,320
close to it?

794
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,010
Adam Curry: So Chris Wallace
says Tucker Carlson is no good,

795
00:46:17,010 --> 00:46:20,610
doesn't ask the right questions,
and then cuts to a clip of him

796
00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:26,940
asking Putin a tough question. I
mean, whoa, bro, ego much.

797
00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:31,770
Unknown: Why is it that so many
of the people that oppose

798
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:38,820
Vladimir Putin end up dead or
close to it? But apparently,

799
00:46:38,850 --> 00:46:42,660
that's not why Tucker went to
Moscow. During the Cold War,

800
00:46:42,660 --> 00:46:46,860
gullible Westerners who spread
Soviet propaganda were dismissed

801
00:46:46,860 --> 00:46:52,770
as useful idiots. But calling
Tucker that is unfair to useful

802
00:46:52,770 --> 00:46:58,140
idiot. Well, oh, no, he's made a
cynical affection for dictators.

803
00:46:58,590 --> 00:47:02,010
And what better way to cash in
than Putin's Kremlin?

804
00:47:02,070 --> 00:47:03,300
Oh, yeah. Oh,

805
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:05,370
you got butt flap?

806
00:47:05,370 --> 00:47:10,170
John C Dvorak: I wonder if I, if
Chris Wallace ever asked

807
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,360
Hillary, that exact same
question.

808
00:47:14,940 --> 00:47:17,910
Adam Curry: There was one, there
is one piece that I didn't hear

809
00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:23,340
anyone talk about? A question
that wasn't even a question.

810
00:47:23,370 --> 00:47:26,070
It's something I don't think it
was even a question. Because you

811
00:47:26,070 --> 00:47:28,800
know, Tucker's not journalist.
But Putin had something very

812
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,330
interesting to say here, you

813
00:47:30,330 --> 00:47:32,820
Unknown: just asked me if
another leader comes and changes

814
00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:36,960
something. It is not about the
leader. It is not about the

815
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,260
personality of a particular
person, it that she didn't, I

816
00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:44,640
had the very good relationship
with the say, Bush. I know that

817
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,610
in the United States, he was
portrayed as some kind of a

818
00:47:47,610 --> 00:47:51,330
country boy who does not
understand much, but I assure

819
00:47:51,330 --> 00:47:55,290
you that this is not the case. I
think he made a lot of mistakes

820
00:47:55,290 --> 00:47:59,100
with regard to Russia, too. I
told you about 2008. And the

821
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:03,480
decision in Bucharest to open
the NATO's doors to for Ukraine

822
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,440
and so on. That happened during
his presidency, he actually

823
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,190
exercised pressure on the
Europeans. But in general, on a

824
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:14,880
personal human level, I had a
very good relationship with him.

825
00:48:14,910 --> 00:48:19,080
He was no worse than any other
American or Russian or European

826
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,920
politician. I assure you, he
understood what he was doing as

827
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,820
well as others. I had such
personal relationship with Trump

828
00:48:26,820 --> 00:48:30,150
as well. It is not about the
personality of the leader. It is

829
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:35,100
about the elites mindset. If the
idea of domination at any cost

830
00:48:35,130 --> 00:48:39,600
based also on forceful actions,
dominates the American society,

831
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,040
nothing will change. It will
only get worse. Yeah,

832
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:49,320
Adam Curry: exactly. He can take
over the show. If we cut out the

833
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,590
pauses like I did on that clip,
he can easily take over take

834
00:48:52,590 --> 00:48:57,060
over the show. Everything that
we have deconstructed. Putin

835
00:48:57,060 --> 00:49:02,700
said the half hour background on
Russia was interesting. I mean,

836
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:08,100
just from a historical
standpoint, now, but no play, no

837
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:10,530
John C Dvorak: play. Yeah, it
was interesting. If you wanted

838
00:49:10,530 --> 00:49:12,600
to listen to Russian history,
which

839
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,120
Adam Curry: I didn't have, but
you know, a little bit not all

840
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,930
that. But yeah, so everything
came at the right time. You

841
00:49:18,930 --> 00:49:22,500
know, we had Biden making all
the noise. I think that got the

842
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:27,030
most noise from the noise
machine. I like that the noise

843
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:31,710
machine. And even then, even I
didn't even see Fox do very much

844
00:49:31,710 --> 00:49:33,780
on Tucker and Putin, did you?

845
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:38,520
John C Dvorak: Actually, I don't
recall anything. And I there's

846
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,300
two or three shows I've watched
kind of routinely, yes. And I

847
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:44,400
don't recall them bringing it up
at all,

848
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,670
Adam Curry: because he's persona
non grata at the Democrat run.

849
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:55,500
Fox News. They kicked him out. I
did want to go back briefly to

850
00:49:55,710 --> 00:49:57,960
the Biden thing because I would
have wrapped this up if we

851
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,840
hadn't gotten on a different
track about covering up the

852
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,850
report Smerconish. Where's that
guy from that Smerconish? Does

853
00:50:05,850 --> 00:50:08,430
he have a radio show? Smerconish
must

854
00:50:08,430 --> 00:50:11,670
John C Dvorak: be like a radio
reason I can't come up with a

855
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:12,690
radio guy. He

856
00:50:12,690 --> 00:50:17,250
Adam Curry: had an Obama
confidant extraordinaire, David

857
00:50:17,250 --> 00:50:23,730
Axelrod, on. Axelrod, who didn't
you run Obama's first campaign?

858
00:50:24,330 --> 00:50:27,600
John C Dvorak: Yes. He ran
Obama's campaigns and he hates

859
00:50:27,630 --> 00:50:28,350
Biden.

860
00:50:28,410 --> 00:50:30,840
Adam Curry: And he's a
podcaster. Now, he's a podcast.

861
00:50:31,230 --> 00:50:35,130
John C Dvorak: Is he? I don't
know. podcaster. X Files? Yes,

862
00:50:35,130 --> 00:50:35,280
he

863
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,820
Adam Curry: has. He has a
podcast and Smerconish. Ask them

864
00:50:38,820 --> 00:50:39,720
about Big Mike. And

865
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:43,230
Unknown: there's like always a
family member who says, in my

866
00:50:43,230 --> 00:50:47,160
case, it's my brother. Keep your
eye on Michelle Obama. And I say

867
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:51,510
that is crazy. What should we be
saying about Michelle Obama?

868
00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:56,130
Well, here's what I know.
Michelle Obama, Obama loves this

869
00:50:56,130 --> 00:51:00,870
country. She's She's a brilliant
person and a brilliant

870
00:51:00,870 --> 00:51:04,860
communicator. But she was a
conscript to politics. She never

871
00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:09,690
was interested in a political
life. Even when Barack Obama was

872
00:51:09,690 --> 00:51:13,800
a young politician. She really
didn't participate much in his

873
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,100
campaigns. I was with him in his
Senate campaign in 2004. I think

874
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:23,100
she showed up twice in the whole
campaign on election nights. So,

875
00:51:23,550 --> 00:51:27,180
you know, she, she's not someone
who likes politics. She doesn't

876
00:51:27,180 --> 00:51:33,810
like the tone and tenor of
politics. And I would be floored

877
00:51:34,350 --> 00:51:40,020
if she would consent to that.
They feel that they gave 10

878
00:51:40,020 --> 00:51:44,490
years of their life to this, and
I'm sure she feels as Barbara

879
00:51:44,490 --> 00:51:47,250
Bush did when she said there has
to be someone other than the

880
00:51:47,250 --> 00:51:50,070
bushes and the Clintons who
could be President of the United

881
00:51:50,070 --> 00:51:52,710
States. My guess is that's her
attitude. I always say, Michael,

882
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:56,460
that I have as much chance of
dancing in the Bolshoi Ballet

883
00:51:56,700 --> 00:52:00,120
next year, then, then that she
would be President of the United

884
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,810
States. And so if you see me
running around at the end of the

885
00:52:03,810 --> 00:52:05,160
year in a leotard you'll know
what

886
00:52:06,990 --> 00:52:09,240
Adam Curry: I was gonna say
both. I

887
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:13,230
Unknown: hear the Bolshoi maybe
once maybe once and for all.

888
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David Axelrod just put it to
rest. Unless Cindy Adams is not

889
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watching. Thank Thank you,
David.

890
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Adam Curry: I think he's still
left that open. No, you might,

891
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might be in leotards.

892
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, the funnier
line is a two two. Yeah,

893
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Adam Curry: I was waiting for
him. I agree. I was waiting for

894
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,310
him to say two two and because
he didn't say two, two, I think

895
00:52:38,310 --> 00:52:42,570
he left it open. Yeah, yes. He
left it open. I'm just hedging

896
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my buddy.

897
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John C Dvorak: My buddy. My
buddy microdata

898
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Adam Curry: Oh, okay, mouse,
man. Give me a break. There's no

899
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evidence there weren't microdots

900
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John C Dvorak: Hmm. So you get
to bring that up. We have to

901
00:53:03,540 --> 00:53:06,510
talk about this, though. I think
we're done with it. Yeah, no,

902
00:53:06,510 --> 00:53:06,990
I'm

903
00:53:07,050 --> 00:53:09,540
Adam Curry: I'm wait. I think
we've handled Biden and Putin

904
00:53:09,540 --> 00:53:10,470
and we're good to go.

905
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John C Dvorak: I got mail in
ballots are no good.

906
00:53:15,690 --> 00:53:18,720
Unknown: Republicans and
Democrats don't agree on mail

907
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:22,170
and voting. according to a Pew
Research poll. They disagree by

908
00:53:22,170 --> 00:53:26,550
a lot with Republicans largely
opposed. A different poll on

909
00:53:26,550 --> 00:53:30,990
mail in ballot fraud may explain
why NTDs Arlene Richards has the

910
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details. Some

911
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Americans don't like mail in
ballots that much, while others

912
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like it a lot. Nationally 57% of
poll respondents favor mail in

913
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ballots. A recent Pew Research
poll shows 84% of Democrats

914
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:49,320
favor mail in ballots, while
only 28% of Republicans favor

915
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,590
the practice. According to the
survey voters have changed their

916
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views on different voting
measures in recent years,

917
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particularly regarding voting by
mail. Four years ago, 70% of

918
00:53:59,910 --> 00:54:05,850
American adults favored it. But
now only 57% do. Democrats views

919
00:54:05,850 --> 00:54:09,720
on mail in ballots have remained
almost unchanged since 2020.

920
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While Republicans have become
less fond of it, dropping from

921
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49% to 28%. One reason for the
change in opinion may be due to

922
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an increased likelihood of
fraud. Well, how

923
00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:23,340
Adam Curry: are we going to
steal an election if we don't

924
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have mail in ballots?

925
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John C Dvorak: That's exactly
right. And then of course, the

926
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part is pretty I think this next
clip, which is part two is is

927
00:54:31,410 --> 00:54:35,010
incredibly underreported by the
mainstream, it's not reported at

928
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all.

929
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Unknown: A study conducted by
the Heartland Institute

930
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concludes the fraud influenced
the 2020 presidential election

931
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results. The study was based on
data obtained from the heartland

932
00:54:45,330 --> 00:54:49,410
Rasmussen survey in December.
According to the survey, about

933
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one in five Mellon voters
admitted to potentially

934
00:54:52,260 --> 00:54:56,010
fraudulent actions in the 2020
presidential election. The

935
00:54:56,010 --> 00:54:59,130
researchers believed the fraud
significantly impacted the

936
00:54:59,130 --> 00:55:03,150
results of the ill election in
favor of Joe Biden. The report

937
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states that if the majority of
Americans had cast their ballots

938
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in person, Donald Trump would
almost certainly have been

939
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reelected.

940
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Adam Curry: So there was a poll,
which is Rasmussen, which is, I

941
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think, usually seen as a right
wing far right poll, where

942
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people actually admitted that
they they defrauded it. Yeah.

943
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John C Dvorak: He ever heard
this either, have you? No, of

944
00:55:26,220 --> 00:55:26,940
Adam Curry: course not.

945
00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:28,470
John C Dvorak: Of course not.

946
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:32,610
Adam Curry: What I did here is
some of the oral arguments of

947
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the Supreme Court regarding
Trump being on the ballot in, in

948
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Colorado. So this is, this is
entertaining. Yes. The Supreme

949
00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:45,270
Court discussing now. Well, hold
on a second, you guys had some

950
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,850
mind reader who testified that
Trump was intending to be an

951
00:55:50,850 --> 00:55:54,300
insurrectionists. And on basis
of that you said, Oh, he

952
00:55:54,300 --> 00:55:58,860
committed an insurrection. Now,
I think a point we brought up as

953
00:55:58,860 --> 00:56:04,140
well, if you can take someone
off the ballot, because they

954
00:56:04,140 --> 00:56:06,450
incited an erection. Oops, I did
it.

955
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John C Dvorak: On purpose? Oh,
actually, I

956
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Adam Curry: didn't. Because it's
easy to do, I guess what's on my

957
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mind because they incited an
insurrection. You could also

958
00:56:16,740 --> 00:56:21,960
make that case against Nancy
Pelosi for not having the

959
00:56:22,260 --> 00:56:28,200
Capitol Police or National Guard
whatever was asked of her. And

960
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,510
what's good for the goose is
good for the gander. And Chief

961
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Justice Roberts said exactly
that. If

962
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Unknown: Colorado's position is
upheld, surely there will be

963
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,150
disqualification proceedings on
the other side. And some of

964
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:46,080
those will succeed. Some of them
will have different standards of

965
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:51,300
proof. Some of them will have
different rules about evidence,

966
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maybe the Senate report won't be
accepted and others because it's

967
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:58,260
hearsay. Maybe it's beyond a
reasonable doubt whatever the in

968
00:56:58,260 --> 00:57:02,250
very quick order, I would
expect. Although my predictions

969
00:57:02,670 --> 00:57:07,860
never been correct, I would
expect that a goodly number of

970
00:57:07,860 --> 00:57:11,400
states will say whoever the
Democratic candidate is, you're

971
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,420
off the ballot and others. For
the Republican candidate, you're

972
00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:18,570
off the ballot, it will come
down to just a handful of states

973
00:57:18,570 --> 00:57:20,880
that are going to decide the
presidential election. That's a

974
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pretty daunting consequence.

975
00:57:24,420 --> 00:57:26,940
Well, certainly, Your Honor, the
fact that there are potential

976
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frivolous applications of a
constitutional provision isn't a

977
00:57:30,270 --> 00:57:30,990
reason. Well, no,

978
00:57:30,990 --> 00:57:33,600
hold on. I mean, you might think
you're frivolous. But the people

979
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,580
who are bringing them may not
think they're frivolous.

980
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,830
Insurrection is a broad, broad
term. And if there's some debate

981
00:57:40,830 --> 00:57:44,100
about it, I suppose that will go
into the decision. And then

982
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:47,490
eventually what we would be
deciding whether there was an

983
00:57:47,490 --> 00:57:50,880
insurrection when one president
did something as opposed to when

984
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,250
somebody else does something
else, when that'd

985
00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:56,250
Adam Curry: be great if we only
had like 10 states that have

986
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both on the ballot.

987
00:57:58,050 --> 00:58:01,290
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's your
That's democracy for you. That's

988
00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:04,080
exactly training. Democracy.
Yeah.

989
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,980
Adam Curry: Man, this is great.
What a great time to be doing a

990
00:58:07,980 --> 00:58:08,850
podcast.

991
00:58:09,570 --> 00:58:10,680
John C Dvorak: It's podcast
time.

992
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:13,830
Adam Curry: It is it is podcast
time. It's fantastic. I'm loving

993
00:58:13,830 --> 00:58:17,970
it. I'm loving it. So well, I
mean, the general consensus,

994
00:58:17,970 --> 00:58:21,090
including from our
constitutional lawyer is that

995
00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:25,410
the Supreme Court will reverse
the Colorado Supreme Court

996
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,100
decision now, if they're, I

997
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:32,790
John C Dvorak: should point out
that most of the analysts to

998
00:58:32,790 --> 00:58:36,120
watch or listen to all of the
eight listened to quite a bit of

999
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,540
it. But it turned out to be the
liberals who are really jumping

1000
00:58:39,540 --> 00:58:44,100
all over this because they just
thought it was ridiculous. So

1001
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:46,980
it's going to it's either going
to be eight to one or which be

1002
00:58:46,980 --> 00:58:51,660
Sotomayor she did was the only
one that seems sympathetic, or

1003
00:58:51,660 --> 00:58:55,680
nine to nothing, and this is not
even going to be close the art

1004
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:56,220
are.

1005
00:58:57,300 --> 00:58:59,850
Adam Curry: Our constitutional
boots on the ground lawyer says

1006
00:58:59,850 --> 00:59:03,090
he says the odds are good that
Sotomayor will dissent. She'll

1007
00:59:03,090 --> 00:59:07,320
be the only one. But then of
course, the question is on what

1008
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:12,900
grounds will they overturn it?
It could be multiple grounds to

1009
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:16,140
make it a little fuzzier. You
know, not to just who I you

1010
00:59:16,140 --> 00:59:19,020
know, was not getting to the
insurrection part. Let's just

1011
00:59:19,020 --> 00:59:24,480
say bla bla bla bla bla bla, I
think they're gonna go for blah

1012
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:25,020
blah, blah,

1013
00:59:25,860 --> 00:59:28,620
John C Dvorak: blah. So I have a
little clip here. That shouldn't

1014
00:59:28,620 --> 00:59:29,910
be tween clips.

1015
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,260
Adam Curry: I love an entre ma
entre Manuel muse. Boosh.

1016
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:39,450
John C Dvorak: I finally got a
clip of Reverend Al. Oh, good,

1017
00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:43,440
harder to catch now. Yes. So I
have him. He says he's talking

1018
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,780
about my orcas and how he's
going to be another trying to

1019
00:59:45,780 --> 00:59:49,530
impeach me orcas, and I just
knew it'd be a matter of time.

1020
00:59:49,890 --> 00:59:55,080
Before After he said it once,
twice, three times before he

1021
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,030
screwed it up. Here we go.
Homeland

1022
00:59:57,030 --> 01:00:00,930
Unknown: Security Secretary
Alejandro hello world because

1023
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:06,720
they are raucous DHS Secretary
maracas Secretary Mary Oh cuz

1024
01:00:06,750 --> 01:00:07,440
there's no

1025
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,930
Adam Curry: real conflict. Mary
Okis

1026
01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:12,540
John C Dvorak: Mary Okay, Mary
Okay,

1027
01:00:12,570 --> 01:00:14,400
Adam Curry: that's I'm gonna
write that down. Mary, how do

1028
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:21,960
you spell? It's Mary m a r y
ocus oak ies, Emery Emery OCO.

1029
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:27,900
ES Yeah. Mary ocus Ah The Rev. I
let them go live these days. Is

1030
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:29,610
that Is that what they're doing?
They just let him

1031
01:00:30,030 --> 01:00:33,240
John C Dvorak: he's on tape.
really screws up date pull it

1032
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:33,810
just letting

1033
01:00:33,810 --> 01:00:41,700
Adam Curry: them go while man
let him go wild. Oh. I heard a

1034
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:46,170
an ad the COVID is is is
striking people again.

1035
01:00:47,610 --> 01:00:51,630
John C Dvorak: Get back slow
COVID COVID-19. I'm not waiting.

1036
01:00:52,140 --> 01:00:54,120
If it's COVID x COVID.

1037
01:00:54,180 --> 01:00:56,910
Adam Curry: I just want you to
hear all the disclaimers in this

1038
01:00:56,910 --> 01:01:00,330
ad. This is not a good product
people excellent.

1039
01:01:00,330 --> 01:01:02,700
Unknown: It is an oral treatment
for adults with mild to moderate

1040
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:05,580
COVID-19 and a high risk factor
for it becoming severe.

1041
01:01:05,610 --> 01:01:08,340
It does not prevent COVID 19
symptoms are mild

1042
01:01:08,340 --> 01:01:10,650
now. But I'm not risking it. I'm

1043
01:01:10,650 --> 01:01:12,480
Adam Curry: not here you're my
symptoms are mild. You have a

1044
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,940
little flu, a little cough, but
I'm not risking it

1045
01:01:14,970 --> 01:01:18,000
Unknown: if it's COVID
vaccinated. Tech SLOVAN must be

1046
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,030
taken within the first five days
of symptoms and help stop the

1047
01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:22,710
virus from multiplying in your
body.

1048
01:01:23,070 --> 01:01:25,890
Adam Curry: Oh it helps the
virus from stops it from

1049
01:01:25,890 --> 01:01:28,830
multiplying in your body. Wow.
Taking

1050
01:01:28,830 --> 01:01:30,630
Unknown: pecs a little bit but
certain medicines can lead to

1051
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:33,660
serious or life threatening side
effects. affect how it or other

1052
01:01:33,660 --> 01:01:36,180
medicines work, including
hormonal birth control is

1053
01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:38,430
critical to tell your doctor
about all the medicines you take

1054
01:01:38,430 --> 01:01:41,160
because certain tests or changes
in their dosage may be needed.

1055
01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:43,680
Tell your doctor if you have
kidney or liver problems, HIV

1056
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,440
one our plan to become pregnant
or breastfeed, don't take packs

1057
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,870
loaded. If you're allergic to
numerous welfare ritonavir or

1058
01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:51,510
any of its ingredients. Serious
side effects can include

1059
01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:54,870
allergic reactions, some severe
like anaphylaxis and liver

1060
01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:55,470
problems.

1061
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,390
These are not all the possible
side effects.

1062
01:01:57,390 --> 01:01:58,410
So talk to your doctor.

1063
01:01:58,650 --> 01:02:02,070
Adam Curry: I love that this is
new. These are not all the

1064
01:02:02,070 --> 01:02:05,340
possible side effects. Talk to
your doctor. They're not even

1065
01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:07,140
disclaiming the death anymore.

1066
01:02:08,430 --> 01:02:11,670
John C Dvorak: Wow, yeah, I
liked it. I knew that is new,

1067
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,060
but they can get away with it.
That's what they're gonna do.

1068
01:02:15,150 --> 01:02:18,120
Adam Curry: And they also show
the lady beginning it through

1069
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,240
telemedicine. They show her on
the laptop talking to her

1070
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,540
doctor. That's you know, talking
to your doctor is now real

1071
01:02:24,540 --> 01:02:28,740
thing. It's not your doctor at
some dude in Vegas, you know,

1072
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:33,750
who also who's also a car valet.
And on the side he takes $10

1073
01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:41,460
calls and prescribes you tax
COVID It's really bad. Not good

1074
01:02:41,460 --> 01:02:42,240
products.

1075
01:02:46,260 --> 01:02:48,720
John C Dvorak: The I got another
onshore mount if you want to

1076
01:02:49,410 --> 01:02:53,130
Adam Curry: play one more, one
more. This is a Tedros. So the

1077
01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:58,230
pandemic treaty that everyone's
up in arms about now, because it

1078
01:02:58,230 --> 01:03:01,230
will give the World Health
Organization all this control

1079
01:03:01,230 --> 01:03:04,050
and which is basically turning

1080
01:03:04,050 --> 01:03:06,210
John C Dvorak: it over and
turning your sovereignty over to

1081
01:03:06,210 --> 01:03:11,130
one world government. Yes. But
the negotiators will sign it

1082
01:03:11,130 --> 01:03:11,940
will sign it.

1083
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:16,500
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. The
negotiations are failing because

1084
01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:21,240
of the patents. So the so the
big the big pharma companies

1085
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,210
like ya know, we're all in it.
But none of you we're not going

1086
01:03:24,210 --> 01:03:28,410
to give it to just every country
unless they pay. Yeah, but you

1087
01:03:28,410 --> 01:03:32,070
remember, the patent was always
the issue. Like give it to the

1088
01:03:32,070 --> 01:03:34,230
rest of the world. Now we're not
going to give it away. I mean,

1089
01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:36,240
come on, we have patents on this
stuff. We're not going to let

1090
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,290
you produce it. We'll sell it to
you. So Tedros. And by the way,

1091
01:03:40,290 --> 01:03:43,110
it's no longer the treaty.
There's a new word it's, it's

1092
01:03:43,110 --> 01:03:44,730
the pandemic agreement,

1093
01:03:44,790 --> 01:03:48,720
Unknown: the pandemic agreement
is mission critical. Humanity,

1094
01:03:48,810 --> 01:03:51,600
Adam Curry: it's mission
critical for humanity agreement,

1095
01:03:51,630 --> 01:03:52,140
pandemic

1096
01:03:52,140 --> 01:03:57,150
Unknown: agreement is mission
critical for humanity. in place

1097
01:03:57,150 --> 01:04:01,890
before COVID-19, we would not
have lost so much we would not

1098
01:04:01,890 --> 01:04:04,050
have suffered so much.

1099
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,140
Adam Curry: If only we had it in
place before COVID We would have

1100
01:04:07,140 --> 01:04:08,640
not lost so much on the

1101
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:13,110
Unknown: generation that lived
through COVID-19. We have a

1102
01:04:13,110 --> 01:04:17,790
collective responsibility to
protect future generations from

1103
01:04:17,790 --> 01:04:23,280
the suffering we endured. As
young people you have the most

1104
01:04:23,370 --> 01:04:27,450
to gain from a strong agreement,
it's likely you will face

1105
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,680
another pandemic in your

1106
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,440
Adam Curry: lifetime. Because it
happens only once every 100

1107
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,100
years. We

1108
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:37,320
Unknown: can't know how mild or
severe it might be. But we can

1109
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:38,250
be prepared.

1110
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:42,660
Adam Curry: So if I may speak to
the younger generations do not

1111
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:48,480
allow this thing to be signed.
Do not do not let these people

1112
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,350
control anything. Last night we
were at a restaurant here the

1113
01:04:52,380 --> 01:04:56,640
fried Helms, the schnitzel
restaurant, which is if you ever

1114
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,330
come into Fredericksburg, skip
everything go to fried helms as

1115
01:05:00,330 --> 01:05:07,380
cheap as affordable, is German
is good. And so, so our server

1116
01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:10,500
comes over. Hi everybody. I'm
Adam. And he says, you know, and

1117
01:05:10,500 --> 01:05:13,350
we're all of course, oh, US and
my name is Adam. And he says,

1118
01:05:13,470 --> 01:05:16,800
Oh, yes, respect for my elders.
And this was the first time in

1119
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:22,410
my heart really sank. I'm like,
holy crap. I'm an old guy. This

1120
01:05:22,410 --> 01:05:25,350
is the first time that really
that's pretty insulting. Well,

1121
01:05:25,350 --> 01:05:26,670
and I said, Oh, you know, it's

1122
01:05:26,670 --> 01:05:29,430
John C Dvorak: insulting. I'm
gonna just as an aside, what I

1123
01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:33,390
think is totally insulting is
when you have a clerk calling

1124
01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:38,370
you especially you know, you're
I'm in my 70s saying, young man,

1125
01:05:39,090 --> 01:05:40,800
Unknown: that's, that's
insulting.

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01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,100
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Thank
you very much young man.

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01:05:44,250 --> 01:05:46,260
Adam Curry: That beat him up.
Hit him with your cane.

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01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:49,410
John C Dvorak: I would if I had
a cane, I should carry a cane

1129
01:05:49,410 --> 01:05:50,760
just for that purpose, you

1130
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,560
Adam Curry: know, with your
walker. Well, the thing is,

1131
01:05:53,250 --> 01:05:58,680
like, Oh, dude, and then he got
he got beat read. I mean, it was

1132
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,920
very, the whole thing all round
was bad. But I was just like,

1133
01:06:01,950 --> 01:06:04,680
oh, there it is. This the first
time actually just had to come

1134
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,290
to terms with it. I'm an old
man. You said

1135
01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:11,910
John C Dvorak: dude. I said,
dude. No, brother, dude.

1136
01:06:13,290 --> 01:06:16,680
Adam Curry: So anyway, as an old
man, children, young generation,

1137
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:21,720
do not let them you know, sign
this pandemic treaty agreement

1138
01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:26,730
agreement. Do not do it, do not
do it. And while you're at it,

1139
01:06:26,910 --> 01:06:29,310
have some kids please before the

1140
01:06:29,310 --> 01:06:31,560
Unknown: end of this century,
the world population will shrink

1141
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,820
for the first time since the
Bubonic Plague of the 1300s not

1142
01:06:35,820 --> 01:06:38,670
because of an increase in
deaths, but because of a slump

1143
01:06:38,670 --> 01:06:42,330
in births. Across the world
fertility rate is collapsing in

1144
01:06:42,330 --> 01:06:45,960
the year 2000. It stood at 2.7
births per woman. Today it is

1145
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,800
2.3. And countries are worried
including France, France is

1146
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,670
asked 25 year olds to get
fertility checks. This has

1147
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:56,520
invited massive backlash.
Meanwhile, Singapore wants

1148
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,160
people to celebrate the year of
the Dragon by having quote

1149
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,550
unquote, little dragons of their
own. That's what they call it

1150
01:07:02,550 --> 01:07:05,580
babies to make the concept more
interesting, perhaps, but when

1151
01:07:05,580 --> 01:07:06,930
these tactics work,

1152
01:07:07,620 --> 01:07:10,860
Adam Curry: little dragons. So
you know, we've been talking

1153
01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:15,570
about what the former New York
banker told me about the about

1154
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:20,130
our population, that as long as
we still have people, that as

1155
01:07:20,130 --> 01:07:23,130
our population grows, we beat
every other country, most

1156
01:07:23,130 --> 01:07:27,570
notably China. So Bloomberg, two
stories today. First story,

1157
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:32,970
immigration. Now, they don't say
newcomers, visitors, aliens,

1158
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,360
illegal aliens, they say
immigration will boost the US

1159
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:43,470
economy by $7 trillion. And
then, and then the UK, soaring

1160
01:07:43,470 --> 01:07:46,950
UK migration, which is the
people coming in on rubber boats

1161
01:07:46,980 --> 01:07:52,260
across the channel, gives hunt
that's the Chancellor of the

1162
01:07:52,290 --> 01:07:57,780
Exchequer, up to 18 billion
pound benefit, he doesn't have

1163
01:07:57,780 --> 01:08:04,710
to raise taxes. So it's working
as intended. You know, because

1164
01:08:04,980 --> 01:08:08,400
they work at or above the level
of the people who are to live

1165
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,870
which means cheaper. It's It's
unbelievable. They're just

1166
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:18,540
saying it now. So I think this
the horse has left the stable.

1167
01:08:19,140 --> 01:08:20,940
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we'll
explain this one. Here's my clip

1168
01:08:20,940 --> 01:08:23,340
immigration results. Immigration

1169
01:08:23,340 --> 01:08:24,450
Adam Curry: results. Here

1170
01:08:24,450 --> 01:08:27,120
Unknown: we go. A new
congressional report estimates

1171
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,630
that the influx of illegal
immigrants will force down wages

1172
01:08:30,660 --> 01:08:34,380
in the US. This comes as
lawmakers in one state advanced

1173
01:08:34,380 --> 01:08:36,630
a bill that would extend
government funded health

1174
01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:40,320
insurance to illegal immigrants
and to his area and past our has

1175
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,450
an immigration update is

1176
01:08:42,450 --> 01:08:46,380
very difficult to know with
precision, who are the, you know

1177
01:08:46,380 --> 01:08:50,130
the people and such as coming
across the border now, the

1178
01:08:50,130 --> 01:08:53,910
Congressional Budget Office or
CBO released a budget outlook

1179
01:08:53,910 --> 01:08:57,180
report for the next 10 years.
Same report estimates that

1180
01:08:57,180 --> 01:09:00,090
America's population will
increase over the next decade

1181
01:09:00,090 --> 01:09:04,050
due to immigration. This will
also take its toll on wages. The

1182
01:09:04,050 --> 01:09:07,500
report states that average real
wages are expected to be

1183
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:11,850
slightly lower by 2034 than they
would be otherwise. Say the

1184
01:09:11,850 --> 01:09:14,610
report's most shocking
projection is that it expects

1185
01:09:14,610 --> 01:09:18,300
government debt will rise by $20
trillion in the next decade to

1186
01:09:18,300 --> 01:09:22,440
$54 trillion. Now this new
report comes just as state

1187
01:09:22,440 --> 01:09:25,860
senators in Virginia advanced a
health care bill for immigrants.

1188
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:29,250
The cover or kits Act would
provide state funded health care

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01:09:29,250 --> 01:09:32,970
to all low income immigrants
under the age of 19. Now a

1190
01:09:32,970 --> 01:09:36,540
Republican state senator who
oppose the bill reportedly said

1191
01:09:36,540 --> 01:09:40,800
it would cost Virginia taxpayers
$100 million just in this decade

1192
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,100
and an update on this attack on
police officers near Times

1193
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:46,950
Square in which a group of
illegal immigrants punched two

1194
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:49,590
officers and kicked their heads
as they were lying on the

1195
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:52,620
ground. Seven individuals
allegedly involved in this

1196
01:09:52,620 --> 01:09:56,010
incident have now been indicted.
Manhattan district attorney

1197
01:09:56,010 --> 01:09:59,220
Alvin Bragg who doesn't often
address the public held a press

1198
01:09:59,220 --> 01:10:01,830
conference on Thursday. Stay
this assault

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01:10:02,909 --> 01:10:08,399
as it did to many of you sicken
me and outrage me. We all rely

1200
01:10:08,939 --> 01:10:13,409
on our members of the NYPD every
day as I said, to keep us safe

1201
01:10:13,409 --> 01:10:17,099
and keep this the safest big
city in America.

1202
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,610
Greg also commented on
speculation that the suspects

1203
01:10:20,610 --> 01:10:24,060
had been caught in Arizona after
fleeing New York. He dismissed

1204
01:10:24,060 --> 01:10:25,980
those reports saying they're not
true.

1205
01:10:26,370 --> 01:10:28,830
Adam Curry: I'm gonna disregard
the last bit of the report the

1206
01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:31,980
first bit was super interesting
and because the $7 trillion

1207
01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:37,860
number comes from the same CBO
report and the health care part

1208
01:10:37,890 --> 01:10:43,560
is is phenomenally interesting
because the UK they also there's

1209
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,960
a whole bunch of stories now
because it is are you going to

1210
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:51,000
give away health health care to
visitors newcomers and in the

1211
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,970
UK, they've been doing just
that. So here's the story

1212
01:10:53,970 --> 01:10:58,170
headlines sharp rise in people
waiting over 12 hours at the

1213
01:10:58,170 --> 01:11:02,460
emergency room in this is all
the NHS is the socialized health

1214
01:11:02,460 --> 01:11:06,810
care but my favorite headline I
couldn't get an NHS dentist

1215
01:11:06,810 --> 01:11:09,660
appointment for six months I had
to pull up my own tooth with

1216
01:11:09,660 --> 01:11:15,120
pliers Yes Where I live many
people don't even have teeth

1217
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:20,100
anymore but there's a solution
solution reports the Daily Mail

1218
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:23,310
millions will get fluoride added
to their tap water and biggest

1219
01:11:23,310 --> 01:11:29,130
expansion of controversial
scheme since the 1980s. Yes No

1220
01:11:29,130 --> 01:11:35,490
cavities but it'll make it nice
and docile unbelievable get out

1221
01:11:35,490 --> 01:11:44,460
of the UK people run Oh my my my
I'm kind of happy I'm old now

1222
01:11:44,490 --> 01:11:48,090
I'm gonna have to witness all
the all the mayhem coming. Well,

1223
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:53,010
yeah, you can call me no code.
This is This is horrible. Really

1224
01:11:53,010 --> 01:11:57,330
is. But of course you know, just

1225
01:11:57,330 --> 01:12:00,720
John C Dvorak: to play just to
continue that clip but not a

1226
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,060
continuation but just another
this is another thing doesn't

1227
01:12:03,060 --> 01:12:05,880
get reported much in this in
this in the mainstream this way.

1228
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:10,020
I didn't know this until I heard
I think is NTD. Play this one.

1229
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:13,530
This is the New York City new
shooting a new shooting. The

1230
01:12:13,530 --> 01:12:14,220
NYPD

1231
01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:16,830
Unknown: has revealed the
suspect in a shooting in Times

1232
01:12:16,830 --> 01:12:20,730
Square last night. A 15 year old
was arrested after allegedly

1233
01:12:20,730 --> 01:12:24,510
opened firing at a tourist
police identified the teen as an

1234
01:12:24,510 --> 01:12:26,190
immigrant from Venezuela.

1235
01:12:27,420 --> 01:12:33,180
And I gotta tell you what those
bullets hit saw accomplish

1236
01:12:33,180 --> 01:12:36,090
tonight. This is a whole
different conversation we're

1237
01:12:36,090 --> 01:12:39,750
having today. My concern our
concern the community's concern

1238
01:12:40,110 --> 01:12:45,060
is to take this on juvenile the
streets.

1239
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,040
Authorities say the suspect came
to the US last September and was

1240
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:54,030
living in a temporary migrant
shelter. According to the NYPD,

1241
01:12:54,060 --> 01:12:58,170
he shot a Brazilian tourist in
the leg inside a retail store

1242
01:12:58,260 --> 01:13:01,860
and began to shove clothing into
a bag. As he ran off he

1243
01:13:01,860 --> 01:13:05,610
allegedly opened fire again just
a fluke a few blocks away

1244
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,150
attempting to lose the police
officials say he's also a

1245
01:13:09,150 --> 01:13:13,140
suspect and an armed robbery in
the Bronx last month. During the

1246
01:13:13,140 --> 01:13:16,080
shooting, the 15 year old was
accompanied by two other

1247
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,670
suspects. Well,

1248
01:13:17,670 --> 01:13:20,460
Adam Curry: since we're doing
bummer news about New York City

1249
01:13:20,700 --> 01:13:24,000
and regarding regarding
replacement migration, let's add

1250
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,820
one more to the mix before I
build everybody up cutting

1251
01:13:26,820 --> 01:13:29,280
Unknown: the fat that's a good
thing when we want it. But the

1252
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,060
city cuts $60 million out of the
Education Department's budget

1253
01:13:33,060 --> 01:13:36,570
for school lunches. And the cuts
announced in November have

1254
01:13:36,570 --> 01:13:40,380
started impacting school lunches
across the city and is now being

1255
01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:43,950
noticed including here at this
house kitchen location home to

1256
01:13:43,950 --> 01:13:46,470
five schools and 1000s of
students.

1257
01:13:46,650 --> 01:13:49,290
A lot of kids don't eat so
they're hungry and they're tired

1258
01:13:49,290 --> 01:13:52,620
and they don't participate or
perform well in their classes.

1259
01:13:52,830 --> 01:13:55,710
It like really drains them out
at home hungry and stuff. And

1260
01:13:55,710 --> 01:13:57,870
like usually we get snack or
sometimes you don't eat or

1261
01:13:57,870 --> 01:14:00,210
there's no snack at all. When we
don't get snack you know we

1262
01:14:00,210 --> 01:14:01,350
can't we can't be doing all that

1263
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:05,250
the city school system serves
close to 900,000 meals a day.

1264
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,760
While the city still provides
meals. Secondary and alternative

1265
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,370
items are phased out like
chicken fingers and french

1266
01:14:11,370 --> 01:14:15,180
fries. Mayor Adams announced the
cuts the result of the city's

1267
01:14:15,180 --> 01:14:18,210
spending on the migrant crisis.
Over the past year and a half

1268
01:14:18,210 --> 01:14:22,980
over 170,000 Migrants have come
to New York City requiring

1269
01:14:22,980 --> 01:14:27,840
housing food education and other
services that causes a cuts is

1270
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,880
driving a wedge that they're
more tired.

1271
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,180
They're less able to focus in
class throughout the day. They

1272
01:14:33,180 --> 01:14:37,740
have headaches or stomach aches,
they have less energy, and all

1273
01:14:37,740 --> 01:14:41,010
of that affects learning and
their ability to take advantage

1274
01:14:41,010 --> 01:14:41,880
of being in school.

1275
01:14:41,940 --> 01:14:44,070
So here's where it gets
confusing. The Education

1276
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:47,070
Department says despite the cut
to the food budget, all of that

1277
01:14:47,070 --> 01:14:49,860
money is being replaced by
incoming funds from the federal

1278
01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:53,220
government. Parents say then it
doesn't make sense why the food

1279
01:14:53,220 --> 01:14:56,250
budget has been tinkered with
and they say food for students

1280
01:14:56,250 --> 01:14:57,960
should be the last thing that's
touched.

1281
01:14:58,140 --> 01:15:01,110
Adam Curry: All right couple
things first of all, Get out of

1282
01:15:01,110 --> 01:15:05,850
the cities. This is no longer a
safe or healthy place to live.

1283
01:15:05,940 --> 01:15:11,310
Second, they're feeding the
kids. Chicken Nuggets and french

1284
01:15:11,310 --> 01:15:15,810
fries. give your kid a sandwich.
Bologna with mayonnaise for all

1285
01:15:15,810 --> 01:15:19,830
I care. Oh, we have no snacks.
Of course not. Of course the

1286
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:23,760
kids are slow because you've got
them addicted to sugar. Oh, we

1287
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:29,970
need a snack. I need a snack to
get my sugar Oh app. No. There's

1288
01:15:30,150 --> 01:15:34,770
right now there's a beef
shortage in America. They're

1289
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:39,060
they're messing with our food.
They really are. And then the

1290
01:15:39,060 --> 01:15:43,380
farmer protest is a part of that
all over Europe. I hope that our

1291
01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:46,710
farmers here eventually get in
on the action. I don't know if

1292
01:15:46,710 --> 01:15:50,550
they ever will. I'm quite
frankly, I'm surprised. But we

1293
01:15:50,850 --> 01:15:52,920
John C Dvorak: you know, it's
they're not even letting us know

1294
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,540
about the farmers protests in
Europe and in the media

1295
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,360
Unknown: near the village of
Doris on Poland's Ukrainian

1296
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:04,650
border. A bitter chill hangs in
the air. Schools are furious

1297
01:16:04,650 --> 01:16:08,010
farmers have been blockading
checkpoints demanding urgent

1298
01:16:08,010 --> 01:16:11,670
change from the governments in
Warsaw. And in Brussels. The

1299
01:16:11,670 --> 01:16:14,430
source of their ire is
agricultural products being

1300
01:16:14,460 --> 01:16:17,760
imported from Ukraine.
Originally, they were meant to

1301
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,300
support the Ukrainian economy
during its war with Russia. But

1302
01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:25,350
now government policies are
sparking unrest at home. Our

1303
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:27,870
heads are on the water. We don't
have any more money to

1304
01:16:27,870 --> 01:16:31,470
compensate for our losses in
farming. It's our passion, but

1305
01:16:31,470 --> 01:16:35,520
not our livelihood anymore,
unfortunately, is still our own

1306
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,820
source of income. 1000s of other
Polish farmers were expected in

1307
01:16:38,820 --> 01:16:41,850
the city of paws noun, anger
there was supposed to focus on

1308
01:16:41,850 --> 01:16:45,540
European Union climate change
policies. Opponents agriculture

1309
01:16:45,540 --> 01:16:48,300
minister said on Thursday, he
understood the challenges

1310
01:16:48,330 --> 01:16:51,720
farmers were facing. Once the
scene of gladiatorial conflict

1311
01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:55,860
Italy's Coliseum on Friday, saw
tractors driving past, Italian

1312
01:16:55,860 --> 01:16:59,700
farmers say their battle is just
as historic. We're not

1313
01:16:59,700 --> 01:17:03,000
here to protest. We're here to
make proposals. Yesterday, we

1314
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,450
presented sign copies of these
proposals to the government, and

1315
01:17:06,450 --> 01:17:09,360
we're confident they will
receive us together we will see

1316
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,490
if Europe still wants to Italian
farmer

1317
01:17:11,550 --> 01:17:14,970
the challenges they face are
sizeable and growing. The EU

1318
01:17:14,970 --> 01:17:18,420
last week watered down climate
commitments, apparently bowing

1319
01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:21,330
to Farmer demands that had
called them overly burdensome.

1320
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:21,690
So they're

1321
01:17:21,690 --> 01:17:24,000
Adam Curry: basically just
chopping the farmers out,

1322
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,400
they're no longer giving them
the subsidies they need because

1323
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,490
they don't want to feed their
Nations. And it's cool to see

1324
01:17:29,490 --> 01:17:31,980
tractors in front of the
Colosseum in Rome, they're no

1325
01:17:31,980 --> 01:17:35,250
longer they don't want to feed
their Nations with healthy

1326
01:17:35,250 --> 01:17:39,210
products. And I consider beef to
be a very healthy good product.

1327
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,290
However, even in Texas, we've
turned our ranchers into

1328
01:17:43,290 --> 01:17:46,380
commodity cowboys. And there's
only three big processing

1329
01:17:46,380 --> 01:17:50,610
plants, and you need to find a
rancher and there's plenty of

1330
01:17:50,610 --> 01:17:54,480
them beef initiative.com, which
my buddy Texas slim set up,

1331
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:57,840
there's plenty of them around
the United States, you need to

1332
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,320
go and shake ranchers hand and
say hi, I need to buy some of

1333
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:05,610
your beef. Because right now we
in our supermarket here heb

1334
01:18:05,790 --> 01:18:09,420
that's from South America and
they put USDA prime on it. They

1335
01:18:09,420 --> 01:18:12,960
drive that shut stuff up. They
got a big cattle drive our Texas

1336
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:18,690
Beef being sold like caviar to
China. That's it and get out of

1337
01:18:18,690 --> 01:18:24,600
the cities. buy an RV for care.
Get out, get into a small

1338
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,440
community. You really need to do
this because this is the

1339
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:32,520
problem. It's the immigration is
all it's not none of it's good.

1340
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:37,920
But small communities can
survive and certainly innovative

1341
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,940
young people can figure stuff
out. You can work by via remote.

1342
01:18:43,710 --> 01:18:45,720
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm glad
you got that clip of the farm

1343
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,290
because the farmers because
they're not playing any of that

1344
01:18:49,290 --> 01:18:52,020
on PBS what they've decided to
do because they know people

1345
01:18:52,020 --> 01:18:56,460
notice protests going on in
Europe. They've decided to PBS

1346
01:18:56,460 --> 01:19:01,650
is from PBS. They've decided to
to bring it show protest the big

1347
01:19:01,650 --> 01:19:04,320
European protests in Germany as
far

1348
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,830
Adam Curry: right the Nazis.
Germany AFD

1349
01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:09,870
John C Dvorak: coverage here's
PBS weeks

1350
01:19:09,870 --> 01:19:12,270
Unknown: Germans have been
flooding into streets squares

1351
01:19:12,270 --> 01:19:15,210
and parks protesting the
increasing influence of far

1352
01:19:15,210 --> 01:19:18,390
right parties. It comes as
Germany's leading far right

1353
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:21,930
party suffered a narrow defeat
in regional elections in one of

1354
01:19:21,930 --> 01:19:25,680
its strongholds. Ali Rogen
explores the impact of this

1355
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,170
increasingly tense political
atmosphere.

1356
01:19:29,010 --> 01:19:31,920
The catalyst for the protests
came from a recent report by the

1357
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,190
media outlet correct teeth. It
details a meeting between

1358
01:19:35,190 --> 01:19:38,880
leaders of the far right AFD or
the Alternative for Germany

1359
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,660
party and members of a separate
extremist movement. In that

1360
01:19:42,660 --> 01:19:46,140
meeting, they discussed a plan
for re migration involving mass

1361
01:19:46,140 --> 01:19:49,140
deportations of immigrants,
including some with German

1362
01:19:49,140 --> 01:19:52,680
citizenship. The AFD has since
distanced itself from the

1363
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,920
meeting, but that hasn't slowed
the demonstrations. Some

1364
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,640
protesters are calling for an
outright ban of the AfD which is

1365
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,300
seen as As to aligned with
Germany's Nazi past. James

1366
01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:06,570
Angelos is an editor for
Politico based in Berlin. Thank

1367
01:20:06,570 --> 01:20:09,780
you so much for being here. Tell
us about who the members of the

1368
01:20:09,780 --> 01:20:12,360
AfD party are and how much
influence do they have in

1369
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:13,200
Germany right now,

1370
01:20:13,380 --> 01:20:16,920
the party had been rising in
polls leading up to this report

1371
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:21,900
is second right now polling
second behind the opposition

1372
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:26,220
conservatives. So right now the
party is more popular than any

1373
01:20:26,220 --> 01:20:28,500
of the parties that are
currently in the German

1374
01:20:28,500 --> 01:20:31,890
government are three parties
making up the ruling coalition.

1375
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,820
And the AfD is more popular than
all three of them. So

1376
01:20:35,820 --> 01:20:37,920
Adam Curry: I don't know if it's
in your other clips here. But

1377
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,970
that in this bin unclimbable
Because all in German, there's

1378
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,020
multiple investigations
inquiries, I should say, going

1379
01:20:46,020 --> 01:20:50,160
on in in German Parliament
against this collective outfit,

1380
01:20:50,370 --> 01:20:55,410
who are given money by the left
wing parties to build this whole

1381
01:20:55,410 --> 01:20:58,470
narrative that the AfD is a
bunch of Nazis.

1382
01:20:59,940 --> 01:21:02,130
John C Dvorak: You're but you're
banking on these clips? Not from

1383
01:21:02,130 --> 01:21:05,550
this guy. But yes, and that's
obviously what's going on

1384
01:21:05,550 --> 01:21:10,890
because this is a populist
party. Just like what's going on

1385
01:21:10,890 --> 01:21:13,140
everywhere else in the world,
because they're getting sick of

1386
01:21:13,140 --> 01:21:15,840
these people that are pushing
everyone around

1387
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,630
Adam Curry: 40% of the world
will be voting this year and

1388
01:21:18,630 --> 01:21:20,250
big, like they'll all be

1389
01:21:20,250 --> 01:21:24,780
John C Dvorak: voting populist.
That includes Trump

1390
01:21:27,060 --> 01:21:29,550
Adam Curry: builders in the
Netherlands. Yeah.

1391
01:21:30,990 --> 01:21:34,140
John C Dvorak: And it includes
his AFD operation. Yes, who

1392
01:21:34,140 --> 01:21:37,560
Adam Curry: are who are clearly
affiliated with the Nazi past,

1393
01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:41,130
unlike, you know, people getting
arrested and not being able to

1394
01:21:41,130 --> 01:21:45,390
go to the supermarket during
COVID. Remember that? They had

1395
01:21:45,390 --> 01:21:47,910
separate ly Oh, you can't pass
the fence. You can't get you

1396
01:21:47,910 --> 01:21:53,430
can't go to the supermarket, the
Dutch. Now you've got curfews

1397
01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:58,680
which they hadn't had since
World War Two, come on. This did

1398
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:03,030
what this is PBS that's doing
this, this PBS unbelievable.

1399
01:22:03,090 --> 01:22:05,070
Unknown: And so what is
happening politically in Germany

1400
01:22:05,070 --> 01:22:07,290
right now that is making them
more popular.

1401
01:22:07,410 --> 01:22:11,100
There has been a rise again
recently of asylum seekers

1402
01:22:11,130 --> 01:22:15,060
entering Germany from countries
like Syria and Afghanistan, and

1403
01:22:15,300 --> 01:22:18,540
they are an anti migration party
that's noticed

1404
01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:21,120
Adam Curry: the new term asylum
seekers, this is what this is

1405
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,490
what the term has been in Europe
for a long time. We're getting

1406
01:22:23,490 --> 01:22:25,680
that here to asylum seekers,
their sort

1407
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,650
Unknown: of core issue. There
are other issues that they're

1408
01:22:28,650 --> 01:22:32,190
taking advantage of the moment,
energy prices skyrocketed

1409
01:22:32,190 --> 01:22:37,710
following Russia's invasion of
Ukraine, inflation and economy

1410
01:22:37,710 --> 01:22:38,910
right now is sorry,

1411
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,600
John C Dvorak: energy prices
have only gone up because of

1412
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:48,390
Russia's Ukraine invasion, when
in fact, the Green Party's in

1413
01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:54,690
the greenies Deutschland managed
to turn on all the new coal and

1414
01:22:54,690 --> 01:22:56,250
nuclear and

1415
01:22:58,380 --> 01:23:00,330
Adam Curry: Putin I thought it
was Putin who did that?

1416
01:23:00,990 --> 01:23:03,120
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what
he just said. Yeah, that's

1417
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,280
Adam Curry: what I'm saying was
Putin remember when Putin blew

1418
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,350
up his own pipeline? Yeah. And

1419
01:23:07,410 --> 01:23:09,360
John C Dvorak: Putin blown up
his own pie. Yeah, give me a

1420
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,010
break with this bullcrap.

1421
01:23:11,940 --> 01:23:16,110
Unknown: invasion of Ukraine,
inflation, and the economy right

1422
01:23:16,110 --> 01:23:20,400
now is not doing well. So there
is a general unease in the

1423
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,610
population that's also helping
the party and they are

1424
01:23:23,610 --> 01:23:27,210
particularly strong in the
former East Germany, where there

1425
01:23:27,210 --> 01:23:31,230
is also more sympathy, perhaps
for taking on a friendlier

1426
01:23:31,230 --> 01:23:33,480
stance toward Russia. Oh, man.

1427
01:23:33,690 --> 01:23:34,140
Adam Curry: All right.

1428
01:23:34,470 --> 01:23:36,840
John C Dvorak: Yeah, hold on a
second to before you raise

1429
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:41,850
anything. Yeah. The East Germans
don't like Russians know

1430
01:23:41,940 --> 01:23:49,050
Adam Curry: they were locked.
Up. So I'm like Jim Psaki. I'm

1431
01:23:49,050 --> 01:23:52,410
sure they have a real good team
of people at PBS, don't they?

1432
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,020
Who can say hold on a second
man, you know that that's kind

1433
01:23:55,020 --> 01:23:57,660
of odd out of order. What you're
saying there that

1434
01:23:57,660 --> 01:23:59,130
John C Dvorak: should have been
like this guy's being

1435
01:23:59,130 --> 01:24:02,640
interviewed is from Politico. So
it should have been the hostess.

1436
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,510
Yes. Who should on PBS who
should have or the what's his

1437
01:24:06,510 --> 01:24:09,300
name, the other guy who should
have asked the question, wait a

1438
01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:12,180
minute, that doesn't make sense
that East Germans generally

1439
01:24:12,330 --> 01:24:15,420
historically hate the Russians.
Now all of a sudden, they're in

1440
01:24:15,420 --> 01:24:17,400
love with the Russians. Are you
kidding me?

1441
01:24:17,820 --> 01:24:20,250
Adam Curry: So two things one,
you're bumping your mic a lot.

1442
01:24:20,250 --> 01:24:23,730
So something something is on
your standard, loose.

1443
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,840
Something's loose, too. Now that
I'm officially an elder, I think

1444
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,350
we just need to rebrand or like,
listen, kids were telling you

1445
01:24:31,650 --> 01:24:34,950
what to do and what not to do.
This really bugged you. Yeah,

1446
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:38,550
did it well, didn't it just No,
it was just a realization

1447
01:24:38,580 --> 01:24:41,460
John C Dvorak: slap in the face.
No, no, it's just the tribe

1448
01:24:41,460 --> 01:24:42,300
bucket of water.

1449
01:24:42,330 --> 01:24:44,820
Adam Curry: I'm just an old guy.
I'm an elder. I'm an elder.

1450
01:24:44,940 --> 01:24:45,810
John C Dvorak: You're not that
old.

1451
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:46,650
Adam Curry: I'm an elder.

1452
01:24:47,730 --> 01:24:48,990
John C Dvorak: Now not an elder.

1453
01:24:51,660 --> 01:24:53,580
Adam Curry: I want to be an
elder let me be you

1454
01:24:53,580 --> 01:24:55,500
John C Dvorak: will be
eventually but not till you're

1455
01:24:55,500 --> 01:24:57,660
60 Oh, at least. Oh, so we

1456
01:24:57,660 --> 01:25:00,330
Adam Curry: have what? seven
more months everybody? And

1457
01:25:00,330 --> 01:25:03,000
Unknown: of course, the flip
side of rising popularity is as

1458
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,880
we've been seeing rising
opposition and more people

1459
01:25:06,030 --> 01:25:09,420
speaking out against them. So
why are these protests happening

1460
01:25:09,420 --> 01:25:10,350
now? Well,

1461
01:25:10,380 --> 01:25:13,800
the catalyst really was this
report, and combined with the

1462
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,670
fact that the party has been
rising in polls, even as it has

1463
01:25:17,670 --> 01:25:21,840
grown more extreme. I think this
struck a nerve for multiple

1464
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:26,220
reasons. This gathering, people
saw echoes of the Nazi past and

1465
01:25:26,250 --> 01:25:30,030
some politicians even called it
a Nazi Party. These protests are

1466
01:25:30,030 --> 01:25:33,720
ongoing, they're large, there's
no sign that they're winding

1467
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,980
down. And the people who are
organizing them see themselves

1468
01:25:37,980 --> 01:25:41,280
really standing up for the
survival of the Republic against

1469
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,440
a very immediate threat.

1470
01:25:46,350 --> 01:25:48,390
Adam Curry: Are the Germans
really this gullible? Do you

1471
01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:50,610
think though, they'll fall for
this nonsense?

1472
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,610
John C Dvorak: Yeah, why not?
They fallen for shutting down

1473
01:25:53,610 --> 01:25:57,210
the nuclear power plants. I
mean, if you go along with that,

1474
01:25:57,210 --> 01:26:00,840
you have to be not only
gullible, but somewhat stupid.

1475
01:26:01,290 --> 01:26:01,950
Yeah.

1476
01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:05,430
Adam Curry: Yeah. I'm afraid
you're right. Ah, you know, when

1477
01:26:05,430 --> 01:26:08,610
Germany when Germany runs into
trouble, as they say, in the old

1478
01:26:08,610 --> 01:26:12,840
country, when when Germany
sneezes, all of Europe gets a

1479
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:19,380
cold. Without Germany, Europe is
in big trouble. But you know, of

1480
01:26:19,380 --> 01:26:24,030
course, the EU is now limiting
cash payments. Yeah, because of

1481
01:26:24,030 --> 01:26:27,180
money laundering. There cbdc is
coming, they'll everyone will

1482
01:26:27,180 --> 01:26:30,060
get UBI they'll be the first
ones will will be able to watch

1483
01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:32,040
it from here. I'll be fun.

1484
01:26:32,820 --> 01:26:35,610
John C Dvorak: Well, as a little
aside, even though this is going

1485
01:26:35,610 --> 01:26:39,150
to undo a Germany necessarily,
and it has a little bit to do

1486
01:26:39,150 --> 01:26:45,660
with the Gaza in Ukraine. I have
to Claire daily clips.

1487
01:26:46,020 --> 01:26:50,220
Adam Curry: Oh, it's always fun
to hear from Claire. Our Irish a

1488
01:26:50,220 --> 01:26:51,150
firebrand.

1489
01:26:51,630 --> 01:26:53,970
John C Dvorak: Let's see, first
one, you know, we talked about

1490
01:26:53,970 --> 01:26:57,750
the Hungary Hungarian situation
and how the EU we went back and

1491
01:26:57,750 --> 01:27:01,500
forth, thinking who is you know,
blackmailing who when it came to

1492
01:27:01,500 --> 01:27:04,740
Hungary going along with the
program and allowing Sweden to

1493
01:27:04,740 --> 01:27:12,090
join the NATO. And Claire has a
take on this, which is kind of

1494
01:27:12,090 --> 01:27:16,050
agrees that the two of us both
of us, took different sides, but

1495
01:27:16,050 --> 01:27:19,050
she kind of does. Same thing
about both. I thought this was

1496
01:27:19,050 --> 01:27:19,920
good. I

1497
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,800
Unknown: abstained on this
motion because it's the same old

1498
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,860
familiar dance, Hungary
blackmails the commission

1499
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:29,220
commission blackmails Hungary,
no doubt and cause another

1500
01:27:29,220 --> 01:27:32,610
turkey to yell at some stage and
the Commission will trade away

1501
01:27:32,610 --> 01:27:36,210
Hungarian minority rights and
judicial independence, all for a

1502
01:27:36,210 --> 01:27:39,360
few billion to backstop what
they call their strategic

1503
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:43,260
interests in Ukraine. The rule
of law is really just another

1504
01:27:43,260 --> 01:27:47,520
weapon in the hands of this so
called geopolitical commission

1505
01:27:47,670 --> 01:27:50,640
and this type of horse trading
of course, there's problems in

1506
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:54,360
Hungary and in many other areas
as well. But this type of horse

1507
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:59,250
trading certainly doesn't help
poor for the US walrus Alex, the

1508
01:27:59,250 --> 01:28:02,250
people who staked their
political careers on to tearing

1509
01:28:02,430 --> 01:28:07,230
peace in Ukraine, who cares, but
reality is catching up with the

1510
01:28:07,230 --> 01:28:11,190
United States is rapidly losing
interest in the proxy war. It

1511
01:28:11,190 --> 01:28:15,090
provoked and maintained just as
it always does, Europe will be

1512
01:28:15,090 --> 01:28:19,140
left picking up this pieces just
like it always is. It's not too

1513
01:28:19,140 --> 01:28:22,200
late for Europe to play a
constructive role in what comes

1514
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:26,100
next for Ukraine. But as long as
frail genocide is held

1515
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,040
constructiveness is the last
thing we can hold for

1516
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:32,640
Adam Curry: proud genocide.
That's better than Queen Ursula,

1517
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:33,060
but I

1518
01:28:33,690 --> 01:28:35,520
John C Dvorak: love proud proud
genocide.

1519
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,070
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's a good
one.

1520
01:28:38,190 --> 01:28:40,560
John C Dvorak: There is I have
another one where she goes off

1521
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:45,180
the rails but she's talking off
topic, and they cut her off they

1522
01:28:45,180 --> 01:28:47,400
literally kill her mic. So

1523
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,030
Unknown: far, the EU and US
response to Israeli genocide has

1524
01:28:51,030 --> 01:28:55,770
been straight from the abusers
handbook Darko deny, attack,

1525
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,800
reverse victim an offender. And
if that doesn't work, you're

1526
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:03,750
just change the subject. So as
the genocide in Gaza continues,

1527
01:29:03,810 --> 01:29:07,950
you want to talk about
everything. But Gaza, you refuse

1528
01:29:07,950 --> 01:29:12,270
to put the item on an agenda and
agenda stacked with every cliche

1529
01:29:12,270 --> 01:29:16,290
imaginable from Venezuela to
Iran with pride of place given

1530
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:21,660
to the old reliable Russian
interference. So a conscious

1531
01:29:22,140 --> 01:29:27,660
agent seeks to signal branding
Palestine protesters as Kremlin

1532
01:29:27,690 --> 01:29:32,430
operatives like clockwork, the
dark insinuations begin in

1533
01:29:32,430 --> 01:29:36,210
Europe, everyone can see what
you're doing. It's tedious, it's

1534
01:29:36,210 --> 01:29:40,650
predictable. You've been doing
it since 2016 isn't going to

1535
01:29:40,650 --> 01:29:44,670
work anymore. The mass movement
is focused like a laser on

1536
01:29:44,670 --> 01:29:48,330
genocide. Everyone knows it's
happening. And Europe is

1537
01:29:48,750 --> 01:29:54,360
I'm sorry, this is debate with a
title and so you should stick to

1538
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:55,500
the issue. Thank you.

1539
01:29:56,970 --> 01:29:58,230
Shut up slave.

1540
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,680
John C Dvorak: I say didn't cut
her off earlier.

1541
01:30:01,710 --> 01:30:03,780
Adam Curry: Okay, so I have a
couple clips here that fit right

1542
01:30:03,780 --> 01:30:07,680
into this. We'll start with with
that last bit about the

1543
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:12,090
genocide. Hillary Clinton is
still out there speaking. She

1544
01:30:12,090 --> 01:30:15,690
was speaking at some event with
our ambassador to the United

1545
01:30:15,690 --> 01:30:18,690
Nations. What's that lady's
name? She looks like Donna

1546
01:30:18,690 --> 01:30:20,280
Brazil kind of in a way.

1547
01:30:20,460 --> 01:30:22,980
John C Dvorak: She looks like
James Brown. Thank you very

1548
01:30:22,980 --> 01:30:29,850
much. That's my name. That's
right. The people of Libya, the

1549
01:30:29,850 --> 01:30:33,300
people the people of Syria, the
people

1550
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:47,280
Unknown: free poster. Okay,
that's Hillary now. Okay.

1551
01:30:55,620 --> 01:30:55,950
Free

1552
01:31:03,030 --> 01:31:08,730
Adam Curry: I encouraged Clinton
think it's great. I love this.

1553
01:31:09,180 --> 01:31:14,340
And I've brought in Libya.
Hillary with the Libya thing.

1554
01:31:14,340 --> 01:31:17,550
It's a Hillary What's your name?
Hillary Daisy, what's her name?

1555
01:31:18,540 --> 01:31:19,500
She's putting her middle name.

1556
01:31:20,310 --> 01:31:21,270
Unknown: Thank you very much.

1557
01:31:23,820 --> 01:31:25,230
That's my name. No, I

1558
01:31:25,230 --> 01:31:28,740
Adam Curry: said something not
random said something. Wrong

1559
01:31:28,740 --> 01:31:33,930
click Donna. It's like this has
some other name in there as

1560
01:31:33,930 --> 01:31:36,210
another net for some reason I
brought it in another middle

1561
01:31:36,210 --> 01:31:39,930
name. I'm not sure why. Now
going back to Hungary, we have a

1562
01:31:39,930 --> 01:31:42,060
development there that is quite
interesting,

1563
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:46,560
Unknown: off to 641 days.
Katelyn Novak's reign as

1564
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,490
president of Hungary came to an
end on Saturday. After being

1565
01:31:50,490 --> 01:31:54,060
caught up in an unprecedented
political scandal. She announced

1566
01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:56,250
her resignation in a televised
address.

1567
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,840
As head of state I'm addressing
you for the last time today. I'm

1568
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,480
resigning from the Office of the
President of the Republic.

1569
01:32:04,230 --> 01:32:08,040
The 46 year old had come under
mounting pressure to quit after

1570
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,460
it emerged that last year, she
had issued a pardon to a man

1571
01:32:11,460 --> 01:32:15,060
convicted of helping to cover up
sexual abuse in a children's

1572
01:32:15,060 --> 01:32:19,140
home, a decision that Novak
described as a mistake.

1573
01:32:20,130 --> 01:32:24,300
By his last April I chose to
grant a pardon believing that

1574
01:32:24,300 --> 01:32:27,390
the convicted offender had not
abused the vulnerability of the

1575
01:32:27,390 --> 01:32:30,450
children in his care. I made a
mistake.

1576
01:32:31,710 --> 01:32:35,100
Novak's decision to quit comes
after a week of public outrage,

1577
01:32:35,340 --> 01:32:38,460
with 1000 demonstrators rallying
outside the president's office

1578
01:32:38,460 --> 01:32:43,140
on Friday, demanding her
resignation. Novak is a key ally

1579
01:32:43,140 --> 01:32:46,530
of Prime Minister Viktor Orban
serving as Vice President in the

1580
01:32:46,530 --> 01:32:51,540
ruling Fidesz party between 2017
and 2021. becoming the first

1581
01:32:51,540 --> 01:32:56,370
woman to be elected president of
Hungary in 2022. So

1582
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,680
Adam Curry: I'm not quite sure
how to interpret this but

1583
01:32:58,710 --> 01:33:05,580
because or ban you know, he just
he got a lot of a lot of what he

1584
01:33:05,580 --> 01:33:09,510
wanted by agreeing to the 50
billion euro package for

1585
01:33:09,570 --> 01:33:15,000
Ukraine. I'm thinking she might
have been a stooge on the inside

1586
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,890
and he wanted her out. So now
now he has full power without

1587
01:33:19,890 --> 01:33:26,280
unless he replaces her that that
whole situation like as she led

1588
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:31,080
a she let a child abuser go and
it was a mistake. Yeah.

1589
01:33:31,830 --> 01:33:34,560
Something up with something very
strange.

1590
01:33:34,590 --> 01:33:36,690
John C Dvorak: Yeah, something's
up with Hungary by the way.

1591
01:33:36,690 --> 01:33:39,690
Adam Curry: It's Hillary Diane
Rodham Clinton there. There's a

1592
01:33:39,690 --> 01:33:43,080
reason why they threw in the
Diane which I'm not sure why

1593
01:33:43,860 --> 01:33:46,560
he's that extra insulting to
her. I didn't know that. By the

1594
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,530
way. I only knew Hillary Rodham
is the Hillary Diane is there's

1595
01:33:49,530 --> 01:33:53,490
something I never heard
assaulting about that. There's a

1596
01:33:53,490 --> 01:33:58,860
reason I'm sure. Anyways,
Alinsky is very happy with the

1597
01:33:58,980 --> 01:34:03,540
with the package. He's got a big
package from from your well,

1598
01:34:03,540 --> 01:34:06,720
he's not entirely happy. We need
a little more.

1599
01:34:06,750 --> 01:34:09,570
Unknown: I'm grateful for your
decision on the financial

1600
01:34:09,570 --> 01:34:14,820
instrument for for us. For our
people for Ukraine, Ukraine

1601
01:34:15,150 --> 01:34:20,520
facility with 50 billion euros
for a four year period. This is

1602
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:25,260
a clear signal that Ukraine will
withstand and that Europe will

1603
01:34:25,380 --> 01:34:30,360
withstand. It is also really
important that this decision was

1604
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:37,770
taken unanimously by all all of
you all 27 Member States and it

1605
01:34:37,770 --> 01:34:44,340
is yet another clear sign of
your strong unity and support of

1606
01:34:44,340 --> 01:34:47,760
Ukraine. Intelligence confirmed
that Russia will receive a

1607
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:52,110
million artillery shells from
Pyongyang. Meanwhile,

1608
01:34:52,140 --> 01:34:52,860
unfortunately,

1609
01:34:53,970 --> 01:34:56,400
Adam Curry: Russia is getting
missiles from North Korea okay

1610
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,340
Unknown: receive a million
artillery shells from artillery

1611
01:34:59,340 --> 01:35:02,400
shown young Hunger meanwhile,
unfortunately I'm the

1612
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,610
implementation of the European
plan to supply 1 million

1613
01:35:05,670 --> 01:35:11,070
artillery shells to Ukraine is
being delayed. These two is a

1614
01:35:11,070 --> 01:35:16,800
signal of global competition in
which Europe cannot afford to

1615
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:21,900
lose. And that's why today your
unit is so needed in creating

1616
01:35:21,900 --> 01:35:27,300
the Ukraine Assistance Fund
within our European peace

1617
01:35:27,330 --> 01:35:28,290
facility.

1618
01:35:28,590 --> 01:35:33,960
Adam Curry: So he wants to build
up the European facility in

1619
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:41,730
Ukraine to build missiles. I
mean, shells ammunition Yeah,

1620
01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:44,460
John C Dvorak: these are what
those shells are you at the

1621
01:35:44,460 --> 01:35:48,420
American taxpayer pays for one
of those 155 millimeter shells

1622
01:35:48,420 --> 01:35:49,170
and let me let

1623
01:35:49,170 --> 01:35:53,160
Adam Curry: me guess let me
guess what for one, one, I'm

1624
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:54,780
gonna say $30,000.

1625
01:35:55,260 --> 01:35:59,460
John C Dvorak: Dollars. No, but
it's still not cheap there fuck

1626
01:35:59,460 --> 01:36:05,160
between five and $8,000 a shell.
And

1627
01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:08,850
Adam Curry: 10 Let's just call
it 10. So that's well, they're

1628
01:36:09,210 --> 01:36:09,420
even

1629
01:36:09,870 --> 01:36:12,900
John C Dvorak: more toward the
five the eight come later, okay.

1630
01:36:12,930 --> 01:36:17,910
But most of them are sold by
middlemen and bought in Bulgaria

1631
01:36:17,910 --> 01:36:20,160
for 500 bucks apiece.

1632
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:26,340
Adam Curry: We're in the wrong
business. Man, that's good.

1633
01:36:26,730 --> 01:36:28,860
John C Dvorak: The Bulgarians
make a lot of shells and they

1634
01:36:28,860 --> 01:36:33,720
sell it for 500 bucks. And we
sell them for 5000 to $8,000

1635
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:34,290
apiece.

1636
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:35,070
Adam Curry: Oh goodness.

1637
01:36:35,130 --> 01:36:37,650
John C Dvorak: And who are we
selling them to? We're selling

1638
01:36:37,650 --> 01:36:39,930
them to the American taxpayer?
Yes.

1639
01:36:41,190 --> 01:36:43,680
Adam Curry: Yes, this is what we
do. You talking about? This is

1640
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:49,800
good. This is good. You had a
fun little thing in the

1641
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,750
newsletter about sunny Austin.

1642
01:36:53,250 --> 01:36:57,930
John C Dvorak: Sunny Austin and
I its words you get some clips.

1643
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,060
Adam Curry: I do have some
clips. I have some I'd love to

1644
01:37:00,060 --> 01:37:00,270
hear.

1645
01:37:00,420 --> 01:37:02,460
John C Dvorak: I mean, the clips
are funny. I didn't get any

1646
01:37:02,460 --> 01:37:06,450
clips was sunny. Just as a
backgrounder sunny Hostin, who

1647
01:37:06,450 --> 01:37:12,360
purports to be a black woman.
slave descendant turns out to be

1648
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,450
the descendant of Spanish. She
nudged you look at you. So yeah,

1649
01:37:15,450 --> 01:37:18,960
she looks like a dark skinned
Spanish woman. She turns out to

1650
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:23,490
be a descendants of Spanish
slave holders.

1651
01:37:24,900 --> 01:37:28,170
Adam Curry: Well, so a little
more background, as we discussed

1652
01:37:28,170 --> 01:37:33,000
what Moe said. All of these
women just call them black

1653
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:38,190
women, who are all pushed to the
front. Dei. Here you go.

1654
01:37:39,180 --> 01:37:45,600
President of Harvard, Joy read
at MSNBC, Fannie, Fannie Willis,

1655
01:37:46,380 --> 01:37:50,160
but also sunny Austin mo called
Draw specifically said, now they

1656
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:53,670
have to show that they're that
they were the right choice. The

1657
01:37:53,670 --> 01:37:57,750
meritocracy part is coming in
now. And this is just right on

1658
01:37:57,750 --> 01:38:04,710
cue, an amazing takedown of this
woman by PBS. Here's a tip. You

1659
01:38:04,710 --> 01:38:09,330
should never go on the show
finding my roots. This is a dumb

1660
01:38:09,330 --> 01:38:10,620
idea. I wouldn't do

1661
01:38:10,620 --> 01:38:14,430
Unknown: it Sonny's roots in
Agra dia. We're about to connect

1662
01:38:14,430 --> 01:38:20,400
her to some painful history. Our
researchers discovered that our

1663
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:24,510
third great grandfather for
Maine was the son of a merchant

1664
01:38:24,990 --> 01:38:29,640
who was likely involved in the
slave trade. And for me and

1665
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:36,450
himself, owned at least one
human being. What's more, moving

1666
01:38:36,450 --> 01:38:40,800
back on this line, we found that
it originates in glitziest,

1667
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:47,130
Spain, evidence of Sonny's
deeper ancestry and her family's

1668
01:38:47,130 --> 01:38:53,340
ties to Spain's colonial past.
What's it like to learn this

1669
01:38:53,340 --> 01:38:55,230
tangible connection to Spain?

1670
01:38:56,070 --> 01:39:03,420
I married a Spaniard Spanish
Ovation There you go. Wow. Well,

1671
01:39:03,420 --> 01:39:06,480
I'm I'm in a little bit of
shock. I just always thought of

1672
01:39:06,480 --> 01:39:10,050
myself as Puerto Rican, you
know, half Puerto Rican. I

1673
01:39:10,050 --> 01:39:14,310
didn't think I was my family was
originally from Spain and

1674
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:15,360
slaveholders

1675
01:39:17,970 --> 01:39:19,260
feeling my friend

1676
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:24,570
I just like crime. I think it's
actually pretty interesting that

1677
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:29,610
my husband and I have shared
roots. Yeah. So I do appreciate

1678
01:39:29,610 --> 01:39:33,720
that. And I think it's great for
our children to know this

1679
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:40,200
information. I guess it's a fact
of life. That this is how some

1680
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:43,140
people made their living on the
backs of others.

1681
01:39:43,260 --> 01:39:45,540
Adam Curry: So a couple of
things have no I love the term

1682
01:39:45,630 --> 01:39:50,940
owned a human. I love that not a
slaveholder owned a human but

1683
01:39:51,690 --> 01:39:54,690
we're not done yet. You still
gotta mama. We gotta we gotta

1684
01:39:54,690 --> 01:39:56,520
pull apart. What's

1685
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:01,140
Unknown: more, Sonny's own DNA
testifies to an even greater

1686
01:40:01,140 --> 01:40:05,820
connection. Almost a quarter of
her admixture is from the

1687
01:40:05,820 --> 01:40:10,980
Iberian Peninsula. Oh, no effect
that took Sunni by surprise.

1688
01:40:12,599 --> 01:40:17,669
I mean, I had no idea of the
Spanish roots to this extent.

1689
01:40:18,419 --> 01:40:24,089
I'm still sort of shocked about
the depth of the ties, I guess.

1690
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:26,400
What do you say? All these white
people just came up on the

1691
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,500
ground? He hasn't come from
somewhere.

1692
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:35,250
I'm surprised. I mean, my
mother's family does look white.

1693
01:40:35,250 --> 01:40:35,850
So

1694
01:40:35,970 --> 01:40:37,230
when you gotta get spanked

1695
01:40:38,940 --> 01:40:46,200
just the colonization of other
people owning humans. But you

1696
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,590
know, I'm I'm surprised that
they were in slavers, actually.

1697
01:40:49,620 --> 01:40:52,980
Yeah. That's disappointing. And
that's a

1698
01:40:52,980 --> 01:40:56,850
lot to do. Yeah. Has it changed
anything about the way you think

1699
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:57,810
of your mother?

1700
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:04,260
No. My mother certainly
identifies as Puerto Rican,

1701
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:09,690
right. And non white actually,

1702
01:41:10,140 --> 01:41:13,380
Adam Curry: identifies,
identifies as Puerto Ricans hate

1703
01:41:13,410 --> 01:41:14,280
Unknown: this for her.

1704
01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:18,930
She's gonna see how deeply white

1705
01:41:21,180 --> 01:41:26,730
Adam Curry: Oh, no, your mama
deeply white? Oh, no. So, of

1706
01:41:26,730 --> 01:41:31,530
course, this doesn't make Sonny
Halston a slave owner or make

1707
01:41:31,530 --> 01:41:35,040
her a bad person. Other than
that, she's always been calling

1708
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:39,000
for reparations. And I would say
that she seems to have gotten

1709
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:42,210
some nice gigs, a whole
production deal based on her

1710
01:41:42,210 --> 01:41:47,130
black oriented TV, documentaries
and projects. So let's go to the

1711
01:41:47,130 --> 01:41:53,220
View. And let's talk it out,
shall we? So

1712
01:41:56,700 --> 01:41:59,550
Unknown: we're starting a little
differently this morning, sonny?

1713
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:03,030
You were just on an episode of
finding your roots with Henry.

1714
01:42:07,980 --> 01:42:11,700
Yeah, and he gave me some
surprising revelations about my

1715
01:42:11,700 --> 01:42:14,940
family history. You know, I was
really reluctant. I don't know

1716
01:42:14,940 --> 01:42:16,770
how you felt when you did it
with me. But I was really

1717
01:42:16,770 --> 01:42:22,260
reluctant to do it. Because I
just sensed that there could be

1718
01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:26,340
something in my family set up.
History. That would be

1719
01:42:26,910 --> 01:42:28,560
disappointing. Disappointing.

1720
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:31,890
Adam Curry: I'm so disappointed
in my disappointed I'm

1721
01:42:31,890 --> 01:42:32,700
Unknown: white.

1722
01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:34,530
Negative. Yes, I

1723
01:42:35,910 --> 01:42:37,620
John C Dvorak: am. Oh, shit
anymore.

1724
01:42:37,860 --> 01:42:41,280
Adam Curry: What did you say?
What did you say? I

1725
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,740
John C Dvorak: said, I'm so
disappointed. I'm white, because

1726
01:42:43,740 --> 01:42:48,300
I can't leverage my bullshit
anymore. Disappointing.

1727
01:42:49,020 --> 01:42:52,140
Unknown: Negative, negative?
Yes, I thought I was gonna have

1728
01:42:52,140 --> 01:42:54,930
that kind of moment. And skip
had asked me to do it for a long

1729
01:42:54,930 --> 01:42:56,610
time. And I finally just who

1730
01:42:56,610 --> 01:43:00,030
Adam Curry: is skip? And why are
you friends with him tighter to

1731
01:43:00,030 --> 01:43:00,480
do it?

1732
01:43:00,660 --> 01:43:03,210
Unknown: Because I thought it'd
be helpful for my children and

1733
01:43:03,210 --> 01:43:05,940
my children's children to know
what their real history was, you

1734
01:43:05,940 --> 01:43:10,200
know, but what I found out was
that my mother's family while

1735
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:14,250
they are Puerto Rican, they
actually originate from Spain.

1736
01:43:14,790 --> 01:43:17,940
And the reason that they moved
to Puerto Rico is because the

1737
01:43:17,940 --> 01:43:22,200
slave trade had been sort of
canceled in Spain and then

1738
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:25,890
Curacao, and then they moved all
of their slaves to Puerto Rico.

1739
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:29,310
And so the business the family
business, I had been told that

1740
01:43:29,310 --> 01:43:31,620
they were printers and
journalists, but they were in

1741
01:43:31,620 --> 01:43:33,810
fact, in slavers. In

1742
01:43:33,810 --> 01:43:38,010
Adam Curry: slavers, not slave
owners in slavers have

1743
01:43:38,010 --> 01:43:43,080
Unknown: my mother fell over the
deeply disappointing point. And

1744
01:43:43,110 --> 01:43:45,270
it's deeply disappointing
because my mother really

1745
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:49,410
identified as Puerto Rican. She
was part of the civil rights

1746
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:58,380
movement. And she was deeply
ingrained in black culture and,

1747
01:43:58,530 --> 01:44:02,670
and identified herself as black
for race. But

1748
01:44:02,700 --> 01:44:05,430
Adam Curry: what does she
identify as Puerto Rican black?

1749
01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:06,540
What was she 70?

1750
01:44:07,530 --> 01:44:11,760
Unknown: Hispanic for ethnicity?
But her race is white. She's

1751
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:15,450
European. Yeah. I know. It's
weird because when you look at

1752
01:44:15,450 --> 01:44:18,600
her, my mother is blonde and she
has light eyes and my whole

1753
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:19,650
family looks like that.

1754
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:20,910
John C Dvorak: But she can be
black.

1755
01:44:21,210 --> 01:44:23,820
Adam Curry: The thing is, Okay,
so first of all, this identifies

1756
01:44:23,850 --> 01:44:28,680
as is Sunni. It's okay. You
didn't own humans. You It's

1757
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:33,480
okay. It's okay. Words. Whoopie
calls it a bummer

1758
01:44:33,480 --> 01:44:35,730
Unknown: slave thing is a
bummer. It's about I'm sorry.

1759
01:44:36,210 --> 01:44:41,280
Adam Curry: Whoopie. Bae hard
hit the bomber

1760
01:44:41,310 --> 01:44:42,240
Unknown: I slave thing is

1761
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:44,610
Adam Curry: a bummer. It's a
bummer. Your face is a bummer.

1762
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:46,440
And I think enrolling

1763
01:44:48,270 --> 01:44:51,000
Unknown: creations by the way,
so y'all can stop texting me and

1764
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,820
emailing me and saying that I'm
a white girl, and that I don't

1765
01:44:53,820 --> 01:44:56,730
deserve reparations. That's I
still believe

1766
01:44:57,690 --> 01:45:01,380
you I don't know who said her.
In telling her she was a white

1767
01:45:01,380 --> 01:45:06,000
girl. Okay, it's it's it's too
much people clean off your

1768
01:45:06,030 --> 01:45:08,940
television screen. Yeah, it's
six. That's a lot.

1769
01:45:08,970 --> 01:45:12,090
So I still believe in
reparations. I still believe

1770
01:45:12,090 --> 01:45:16,710
this country has a lot to do in
terms of racial justice. But

1771
01:45:16,710 --> 01:45:22,380
what I will say, Sarah, to your
question is that I feel that I'm

1772
01:45:22,380 --> 01:45:24,090
enriched by knowing

1773
01:45:24,660 --> 01:45:27,810
Adam Curry: that history you
want of us girl,

1774
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,600
Unknown: I'm enrich. And I'm
enriched by knowing that my

1775
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:34,680
family has come so far from
being in slavers to my mother

1776
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,140
marrying my father. Oh, I

1777
01:45:37,140 --> 01:45:41,100
Adam Curry: see. As long as you
marry someone black, it's okay.

1778
01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:45,600
If your ancestors were a slave
holder, I feel enriched and

1779
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:49,680
rich. You're not responsible for
the slaves in Oh, you're not

1780
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,710
responsible for what they did?
She says, Well, I'm what

1781
01:45:52,710 --> 01:45:54,840
Unknown: I did. And I was hoping
they'd find out was related to

1782
01:45:54,840 --> 01:46:00,150
Mussolini or something. Like
that came up. My

1783
01:46:00,150 --> 01:46:01,080
Adam Curry: word.

1784
01:46:01,740 --> 01:46:04,470
John C Dvorak: Can't Rachel
Dolezal or whatever name it

1785
01:46:04,470 --> 01:46:05,250
comes to mind.

1786
01:46:05,490 --> 01:46:07,890
Adam Curry: I mean, can't you
just can't you just say, Hey,

1787
01:46:07,890 --> 01:46:11,340
okay, it's all right. You know,
it's all right. You're not

1788
01:46:11,340 --> 01:46:15,390
responsible for for something
that happened hundreds of years

1789
01:46:15,390 --> 01:46:19,890
ago. You know, but you do have
to pay now obviously, sonny, you

1790
01:46:19,890 --> 01:46:23,220
got to join in the payments, and
you can't take any payments

1791
01:46:23,310 --> 01:46:28,170
because you're white deeply or
moved to San Francisco. Maybe

1792
01:46:28,170 --> 01:46:29,310
you can still get a good deal

1793
01:46:29,340 --> 01:46:32,070
Unknown: controversial, Kaylee
for two reasons. One people

1794
01:46:32,070 --> 01:46:36,120
receiving your tax dollars with
no requirement they work and

1795
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:39,420
secondly, should they be getting
that money based solely on skin

1796
01:46:39,420 --> 01:46:42,240
color. The lawsuit says San
Francisco and California

1797
01:46:42,420 --> 01:46:46,740
illegally give out millions each
year to minorities and trans

1798
01:46:46,740 --> 01:46:50,790
women based solely on race and
gender identity through these

1799
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:54,390
three programs. The black
economic equity project hands

1800
01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:58,710
out 500 A month exclusively to
young Black Bay Area residents.

1801
01:46:58,980 --> 01:47:03,900
The guaranteed income project
for trans people that pays 1200

1802
01:47:03,900 --> 01:47:07,890
hours a month provided black,
indigenous Latino and

1803
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:11,040
transgender right and the
abundant birth project gives

1804
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:15,210
$1,000 a month solely to
pregnant black and Pacific

1805
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:16,530
Islander women. Each

1806
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,680
of these three programs
qualifies and disqualifies

1807
01:47:19,710 --> 01:47:23,610
individuals from participation
and benefits based on their

1808
01:47:23,610 --> 01:47:26,250
race. That's what they do.

1809
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:29,850
The birth project defends the
age saying black Pacific

1810
01:47:29,850 --> 01:47:33,000
Islander women have higher rates
of premature birth.

1811
01:47:33,090 --> 01:47:37,470
This risk is primarily due to
racism, both structural racism

1812
01:47:37,620 --> 01:47:41,130
and the racism that birthing
people and mothers experience

1813
01:47:41,130 --> 01:47:43,800
when they're interacting with
physicians and other medical

1814
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,000
providers. Still,

1815
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:48,570
critics say it's illegal to
exclude white and Latino women,

1816
01:47:48,570 --> 01:47:52,110
especially those with higher
risk of complication. Now Mayor

1817
01:47:52,110 --> 01:47:55,560
London breed supports all three
programs, though none require

1818
01:47:55,560 --> 01:48:00,570
work example. The $1,200 stipend
will be provided to participants

1819
01:48:00,690 --> 01:48:04,260
so they may focus on their basic
physical and mental health and

1820
01:48:04,260 --> 01:48:08,040
wellness without worrying about
income according to gift. So all

1821
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:11,400
three programs Kay Lee declined
interviews. The Mayor's office

1822
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:14,790
says the programs are legal and
they look forward to going to

1823
01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:16,350
court. Yeah,

1824
01:48:16,380 --> 01:48:18,690
Adam Curry: the answer of course
is not to take that money away

1825
01:48:18,690 --> 01:48:26,400
but to give it to all people.
California UBI incoming Ah,

1826
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:27,180
yeah, we

1827
01:48:27,180 --> 01:48:28,530
John C Dvorak: got nothing but
money here.

1828
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,890
Adam Curry: Yeah, you guys are
loaded on the board trains

1829
01:48:31,890 --> 01:48:34,440
Unknown: good. Planes bad.

1830
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:39,750
Adam Curry: Oh, such a
controversy, controversy. Oh my

1831
01:48:39,750 --> 01:48:44,820
goodness, we have to weigh the
passengers. Oh, we need weight

1832
01:48:44,820 --> 01:48:48,960
and balance. Everybody's all up
in arms about fin air. This

1833
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:49,290
morning

1834
01:48:49,290 --> 01:48:51,390
Unknown: the Scandinavian
airline fin air inviting

1835
01:48:51,390 --> 01:48:54,000
passengers to be weighed in
along with their carry on

1836
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:57,300
baggage. The airline says the
goal is to collect anonymous

1837
01:48:57,300 --> 01:48:59,640
data on average weight of
passengers with their hand

1838
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:02,700
luggage for the purpose of
aircraft balance and performance

1839
01:49:02,700 --> 01:49:06,120
calculations that are needed for
the safe operation of flights.

1840
01:49:06,300 --> 01:49:09,360
So far. 600 passengers have
volunteered for the survey,

1841
01:49:09,510 --> 01:49:13,500
airlines use an average for male
and female and for summer and

1842
01:49:13,500 --> 01:49:16,200
for winter. And you need to
correct those every now and then

1843
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:19,080
especially if the population has
gotten a bit more punchy. It

1844
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:22,290
turns out the airline has been
doing this since 2018. And it's

1845
01:49:22,290 --> 01:49:26,100
completely voluntary. It's not
uncommon for some international

1846
01:49:26,100 --> 01:49:29,850
airlines to do wait surveys
every few years required by

1847
01:49:29,850 --> 01:49:32,700
their governing bodies every
five years you figured the

1848
01:49:32,700 --> 01:49:35,850
population changes a little bit
weight. And that's why these

1849
01:49:35,850 --> 01:49:39,510
chests are needed. And Finn air
is not alone Air New Zealand

1850
01:49:39,510 --> 01:49:42,540
weighed more than 10,000
passengers last June air in New

1851
01:49:42,540 --> 01:49:45,210
Zealand calling the survey
essential to the safe and

1852
01:49:45,210 --> 01:49:48,300
efficient operation of the
aircraft and that the pilot

1853
01:49:48,300 --> 01:49:51,180
needs to know the weight and
balance of a loaded plane before

1854
01:49:51,180 --> 01:49:54,900
takeoff. And Korean Air did it
in the fall saying collecting

1855
01:49:54,900 --> 01:49:58,920
this data was crucial for the
safety of flight operations. It

1856
01:49:58,920 --> 01:49:59,280
is

1857
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:01,860
Adam Curry: just a survey It's
opt in. But of course, you know,

1858
01:50:01,860 --> 01:50:05,160
this is just crazy. We can, we
can, this is 20 Another

1859
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:12,960
John C Dvorak: way I feel about
it go. People should be charged

1860
01:50:13,260 --> 01:50:14,760
based on their weight.

1861
01:50:15,330 --> 01:50:17,850
Unknown: And again, this is
completely voluntary. Nobody has

1862
01:50:17,850 --> 01:50:20,490
been forced to step on a scale
but when this happened it of

1863
01:50:20,490 --> 01:50:23,190
course certainly triggers a lot
of good questions, maybe even

1864
01:50:23,190 --> 01:50:25,560
some anxiety from a lot of
people. But Robin, you had a

1865
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:27,690
good solution, just put the
whole plane on a scale.

1866
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:33,660
Volunteer means you're not
getting the information that you

1867
01:50:33,660 --> 01:50:36,810
need. So when everybody's on
board, isn't there some way

1868
01:50:36,810 --> 01:50:41,520
technology you can I mean, 2024
we can figure that out. Because

1869
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:43,200
as John said, we're getting
punchy.

1870
01:50:48,150 --> 01:50:51,330
Adam Curry: Do Yeah, so we put
the whole plane on a scale note

1871
01:50:51,330 --> 01:50:55,140
the weight and balance is
incredibly important. We

1872
01:50:55,140 --> 01:50:58,500
understand your your take on it.
Now. I'm going to connect this

1873
01:50:58,500 --> 01:51:01,860
to another story which is a
director of the story, but

1874
01:51:01,860 --> 01:51:04,560
weight and balance is very
important people.

1875
01:51:04,590 --> 01:51:06,990
Unknown: The investigation is
just getting started into a

1876
01:51:06,990 --> 01:51:09,420
helicopter crash in San
Bernardino County that killed

1877
01:51:09,420 --> 01:51:12,810
six people. The crash happened
around 10 o'clock last night

1878
01:51:12,810 --> 01:51:16,920
east of the 15 freeway near hell
Lauren springs. The crash site

1879
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:20,100
is known for an abandoned gas
station with a sign that says

1880
01:51:20,100 --> 01:51:23,700
low gas and eat. It's very close
to the California Nevada border

1881
01:51:23,700 --> 01:51:27,690
about the 80 miles better effect
from Las Vegas. The Eurocopter

1882
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:31,350
EC 120 took off from Palm
Springs airport was headed to

1883
01:51:31,350 --> 01:51:35,640
Boulder City, Nevada, but it
never made it. The CEO of one of

1884
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:40,020
Nigeria's largest banks was on
board. Herbert Woodway, was

1885
01:51:40,020 --> 01:51:43,230
killed along with his wife and
son. Their identities were

1886
01:51:43,230 --> 01:51:45,990
confirmed by an official with
the World Trade Organization.

1887
01:51:46,470 --> 01:51:49,590
The National Transportation
Safety Board is on scene to lead

1888
01:51:49,590 --> 01:51:52,590
the investigation. One thing to
look at is the weather

1889
01:51:52,590 --> 01:51:53,400
conditions.

1890
01:51:54,570 --> 01:51:58,590
It was reported by witnesses
that there was rain with some

1891
01:51:58,590 --> 01:52:03,570
wintry mix. We currently have a
meteorologist working on our

1892
01:52:03,570 --> 01:52:07,650
team and we're working to
analyze and get the exact

1893
01:52:07,830 --> 01:52:09,300
weather conditions at that time.

1894
01:52:09,990 --> 01:52:12,300
The helicopter was not equipped
with either a flight data

1895
01:52:12,300 --> 01:52:15,720
recorder or a cockpit voice
recorder. A preliminary report

1896
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:18,210
on the crash will be released in
a couple of weeks. The final

1897
01:52:18,210 --> 01:52:21,600
report could take anywhere from
12 to 24 months.

1898
01:52:21,750 --> 01:52:25,650
Adam Curry: So the banking CEO
was on his way to the Super Bowl

1899
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,230
that was or at least that's the
report. This is interesting to

1900
01:52:28,230 --> 01:52:33,150
me because in 2001 I owned a
Eurocopter 120 I know a lot

1901
01:52:33,150 --> 01:52:37,050
about it. I've flown it myself.
No doesn't it's this is a

1902
01:52:37,050 --> 01:52:42,390
relatively it's a single engine
turbine helicopter. It's quiet

1903
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:46,530
because as the patented
Eurocopter enclosed fin for the

1904
01:52:46,530 --> 01:52:50,550
tail rotor does not have a data
recorder for flight cockpit

1905
01:52:50,550 --> 01:52:54,540
recorder. It actually runs on
Windows NT which I never liked

1906
01:52:54,570 --> 01:52:57,930
when you start the helicopter.
You got to boot screen for NT

1907
01:52:57,930 --> 01:53:02,520
3.1. But the second report,
which is a report which is I'm

1908
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:06,480
going to presume the reporter
got the information from the

1909
01:53:06,750 --> 01:53:10,620
from the from the charter
company tells me something was

1910
01:53:10,620 --> 01:53:11,490
very wrong,

1911
01:53:11,580 --> 01:53:13,380
Unknown: I would assume is
Reporter Lee and Souter joins us

1912
01:53:13,380 --> 01:53:16,230
live from Burbank with the
latest on the investigation.

1913
01:53:16,230 --> 01:53:16,680
Leanne

1914
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:22,080
Tory that helicopter was
operated by Orbitz air base here

1915
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:26,250
at the Burbank airport of pilot
as well as the Safety Pilot

1916
01:53:26,250 --> 01:53:30,000
we're on board along with four
passengers one of them the head

1917
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:31,530
of a major Nigerian

1918
01:53:31,530 --> 01:53:36,000
Adam Curry: bank. Okay, this is
a five seat helicopter pilot

1919
01:53:36,180 --> 01:53:39,600
copilot or she called Safety
Pilot and three in the back if

1920
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:44,760
there were four passengers you
are overweight so besides flying

1921
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:48,390
in wintry conditions, some
somebody did something very

1922
01:53:48,390 --> 01:53:52,350
wrong here and I will wait for
the NTSB report or maybe they're

1923
01:53:52,350 --> 01:53:56,040
just full of crap and they don't
know. But it makes and also

1924
01:53:56,070 --> 01:54:00,090
Safety Pilot. That's usually
when when an owner is flying

1925
01:54:00,090 --> 01:54:03,990
himself the whole thing is
sketchy or they just wanted to

1926
01:54:03,990 --> 01:54:04,140
kill

1927
01:54:04,140 --> 01:54:07,050
John C Dvorak: it was sketchy to
me is there's a dead banker

1928
01:54:07,830 --> 01:54:10,530
Adam Curry: who just wanted to
kill a banker as possible

1929
01:54:10,590 --> 01:54:13,260
John C Dvorak: as possible. A
Nigerian yes a

1930
01:54:13,260 --> 01:54:17,160
Adam Curry: day record. Today
record is not good. So he has

1931
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:19,560
John C Dvorak: something to do
with the Nigerian banking scheme

1932
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:21,660
couldn't be and he is murdered.

1933
01:54:21,690 --> 01:54:24,330
Adam Curry: I think I think I
got an email from him some

1934
01:54:24,330 --> 01:54:24,660
point.

1935
01:54:25,050 --> 01:54:27,690
John C Dvorak: I got one too.
Funny thing.

1936
01:54:27,870 --> 01:54:30,330
Adam Curry: Hey, do you remember
that report? Was it your report

1937
01:54:30,330 --> 01:54:35,700
about the heads? Like some some
outfit where they just had heads

1938
01:54:35,700 --> 01:54:37,260
on tables? You remember that?

1939
01:54:38,550 --> 01:54:39,840
John C Dvorak: heads on and
tables? You're thinking that

1940
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:40,710
Futurama

1941
01:54:41,190 --> 01:54:43,980
Adam Curry: No no, no, no, no,
there was some report you had we

1942
01:54:43,980 --> 01:54:47,460
were laughing I think we even
became a show title. It was like

1943
01:54:47,460 --> 01:54:50,640
the guy had heads every heads
cut baby's heads cut off or

1944
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:51,450
something.

1945
01:54:52,740 --> 01:54:55,590
John C Dvorak: Oh snap one of my
gruesome reports. Well, then

1946
01:54:55,590 --> 01:54:55,890
here's

1947
01:54:55,890 --> 01:54:58,950
Unknown: mine. The biological
Resource Center was essentially

1948
01:54:58,950 --> 01:55:03,600
running a chop shop up for human
body parts mixing, matching and

1949
01:55:03,630 --> 01:55:06,930
selling them in ways we've never
heard of, until tonight

1950
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:11,520
described as unsettling, but it
sounds a whole lot worse one FBI

1951
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:14,400
agent revealing what it was
really like inside the Phoenix

1952
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:19,530
body donation facility. In 2014.
He saw everything from buckets

1953
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:23,520
of heads, arms and legs to
coolers filled with severed

1954
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,010
penises when the FBI raided the
building

1955
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:29,400
confused and angry. We thought
this was going to be doing some

1956
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:30,300
good he

1957
01:55:30,300 --> 01:55:35,040
even thought it a smaller head
sewn onto a larger torso in a

1958
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:37,050
quote Frankenstein manner

1959
01:55:37,110 --> 01:55:40,260
he wasn't nutrients we made
wasn't a choice the needs of

1960
01:55:40,260 --> 01:55:41,340
families made

1961
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:44,640
body parts piled on top of each
other inside biological

1962
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:47,550
resources. Were families donated
their loved.

1963
01:55:48,570 --> 01:55:50,160
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what was
the name of this restaurant

1964
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:50,430
again?

1965
01:55:51,330 --> 01:55:53,700
Unknown: In a quote Frankenstein
manner,

1966
01:55:53,790 --> 01:55:57,360
it wasn't nutrients we made was
an interesting use of families

1967
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:58,410
made body

1968
01:55:58,410 --> 01:56:01,770
parts piled on top of each other
inside biological Resource

1969
01:56:01,770 --> 01:56:05,160
Center, where families donated
their loved ones for medical

1970
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:06,780
research, discoveries

1971
01:56:06,780 --> 01:56:11,700
of sickness and disease, maybe
come up with a cure.

1972
01:56:11,730 --> 01:56:15,780
Some say the company violated
everything they promised tragedy

1973
01:56:15,780 --> 01:56:19,260
that's never resolved, and it
just keeps going on and deeper

1974
01:56:19,260 --> 01:56:19,740
and deeper

1975
01:56:19,770 --> 01:56:22,800
dilemmas. According to that
agent with no apparent

1976
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:26,580
identification. The company sued
months after the FBI raided

1977
01:56:26,580 --> 01:56:29,760
families claiming their loved
ones weren't treated with

1978
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:33,450
dignity and respect, a promise
written on their own consent

1979
01:56:33,450 --> 01:56:37,290
forms. The company also accused
of selling body parts for profit

1980
01:56:37,290 --> 01:56:40,590
after saying they'd only use the
parts they needed and would

1981
01:56:40,590 --> 01:56:45,060
cremate the ones they didn't and
return them a torso with a head

1982
01:56:45,060 --> 01:56:50,340
apparently went for 2400 bucks
bargain a leg about 1100 Didn't

1983
01:56:50,340 --> 01:56:56,970
even sell knees and feet alone
for under 500. News everyone.

1984
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,830
Adam Curry: Man, what is going
on in Phoenix?

1985
01:57:02,910 --> 01:57:06,570
John C Dvorak: This is a weird
story. I'll give you a clip of

1986
01:57:06,570 --> 01:57:08,130
the day for digging that went
out. Thank

1987
01:57:08,130 --> 01:57:10,350
Adam Curry: you. This one
deserves a lot more attention I

1988
01:57:10,350 --> 01:57:16,020
think. I want to know who was
ordering a body with a smaller

1989
01:57:16,020 --> 01:57:19,440
head sewn on. On what is

1990
01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:22,770
John C Dvorak: a whole bucket of
penises. I think that's a good

1991
01:57:22,770 --> 01:57:23,700
one and we're worried

1992
01:57:23,700 --> 01:57:25,950
Adam Curry: about Jeffrey
Epstein. What's going on in

1993
01:57:25,950 --> 01:57:29,940
Phoenix people what is
happening? What is going on?

1994
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:33,630
That's just just I think we need
to go look at Taylor Swift.

1995
01:57:33,900 --> 01:57:36,390
Unknown: We all need to calm
down and I'm not talking about

1996
01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:40,470
the podcast I'm talking about
having Taylor Swift here. Yeah,

1997
01:57:40,470 --> 01:57:43,800
Adam Curry: my goodness. Hey, I
have a Super Bowl Super Bowl

1998
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,500
clip, Super Bowl clip bought a
sports ball and then we can talk

1999
01:57:46,500 --> 01:57:47,340
about the big games.

2000
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:51,930
Unknown: In a metropolis once
known as Sin City. The biggest

2001
01:57:51,930 --> 01:57:56,700
sin heading into Sunday evening
Super Bowl is not knowing that

2002
01:57:56,760 --> 01:58:00,510
this guy number 87 Is the
boyfriend of Taylor Swift.

2003
01:58:00,780 --> 01:58:04,920
Number 87 has a name Travis
Kelce. Star in American football

2004
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:08,160
tournament for the Kansas City
Chiefs and a star for answering

2005
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:10,530
repeated questions about his
love life.

2006
01:58:10,860 --> 01:58:14,910
Why do you think everyone's so
fascinated with you too? I think

2007
01:58:15,180 --> 01:58:18,630
the values that we stand for and
just you know who we are as

2008
01:58:18,630 --> 01:58:18,930
people.

2009
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:23,670
Kelsey support extends to Taylor
Swift Fans Swifties half a world

2010
01:58:23,670 --> 01:58:27,630
away. Tokyo hosted the last of
four sold out concerts Saturday

2011
01:58:27,630 --> 01:58:28,050
evening.

2012
01:58:29,970 --> 01:58:32,400
Adam Curry: Monday we hadn't
really watched American football

2013
01:58:32,430 --> 01:58:36,510
until now. But because Taylor's
boyfriend place finally watched

2014
01:58:36,510 --> 01:58:36,690
it.

2015
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:41,460
Unknown: We did the question on
so many lips after this last gig

2016
01:58:41,460 --> 01:58:45,510
and Tokyo will a private plane
get her back in time to as she

2017
01:58:45,510 --> 01:58:49,020
has in the past. Join other
players girlfriends wives and

2018
01:58:49,020 --> 01:58:52,350
family for the game WAGs she
should make it and that's good

2019
01:58:52,350 --> 01:58:55,590
news even for those who don't
count themselves as Swifties

2020
01:58:56,250 --> 01:58:58,590
John C Dvorak: she will be in
the house in the building for

2021
01:58:58,590 --> 01:59:02,640
the Super Bowl but I mean, I
love I

2022
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:04,560
Unknown: think her attending
will bring in new eyes to the

2023
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:04,950
sport I

2024
01:59:04,950 --> 01:59:07,440
think there will be a lot of
women who will probably shift

2025
01:59:07,470 --> 01:59:09,120
their attention to football

2026
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:12,480
we should all be so lucky that
we'd have a significant other

2027
01:59:12,510 --> 01:59:15,270
wanted to support us in our job
right.

2028
01:59:16,890 --> 01:59:18,840
Adam Curry: It would be nice if
our families listened to our

2029
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:22,650
show John right. Be honest about
it. Yeah,

2030
01:59:22,650 --> 01:59:24,210
John C Dvorak: well yeah,
sometimes they do.

2031
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:28,890
Adam Curry: So I like I liked
that they they brought the WAGs

2032
01:59:28,890 --> 01:59:33,690
acronym to America. Although
they sit in reverse order, you

2033
01:59:33,690 --> 01:59:37,980
know in the UK, it's always WAGs
wives and girlfriends. She's now

2034
01:59:37,980 --> 01:59:44,940
a WAG I think we should we
should perpetuate that mean wag

2035
01:59:46,590 --> 01:59:50,490
so yeah, I think NFL benefits
there's it's good very very good

2036
01:59:50,490 --> 01:59:51,000
progress.

2037
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:52,980
John C Dvorak: It was done as a
publicity stunt. Let's face

2038
01:59:52,980 --> 01:59:53,610
reality.

2039
01:59:53,790 --> 01:59:56,820
Adam Curry: Well, shall we get
into the bedding because I've

2040
01:59:56,820 --> 02:00:01,020
learned a lot from CBS evening
news about proper bets and then

2041
02:00:01,050 --> 02:00:01,860
no prop

2042
02:00:01,860 --> 02:00:04,470
John C Dvorak: bets only maniacs
take dose. If this

2043
02:00:04,470 --> 02:00:08,580
Unknown: was the Super Bowl of
news stories, I bet anything

2044
02:00:08,700 --> 02:00:12,630
that people would bet on
anything from how many words

2045
02:00:12,630 --> 02:00:16,140
I'll say to whether I'll gesture
bar with my left hand or my

2046
02:00:16,140 --> 02:00:20,250
right. And when I eventually
throw this ball will make dog

2047
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:24,810
catch it. These are called prop
bets. And in football, it means

2048
02:00:24,810 --> 02:00:28,350
betting on anything other than
the final score of the game. How

2049
02:00:28,350 --> 02:00:32,100
big is this gotten? It's gotten
much, much bigger than than even

2050
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:36,120
the game. Rufus Peabody is a
professional better, and co

2051
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:40,620
founder of unabated sports. Why
do you think the proliferation

2052
02:00:40,620 --> 02:00:44,280
of this? I think because people
have shorter attention spans now

2053
02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:46,890
than they used to? We want the
game to be more like a slot

2054
02:00:46,890 --> 02:00:51,450
machine and we do a sporting
event. To that end, you can now

2055
02:00:51,450 --> 02:00:55,650
bet on how long the national
anthem will be. Whether or not

2056
02:00:55,650 --> 02:00:59,310
someone will miss an extra
point. Will Taylor Swift be

2057
02:00:59,310 --> 02:01:03,030
caught on camera wearing a foam
finger? Will she wear red

2058
02:01:03,030 --> 02:01:07,560
lipstick, or some other color?
And my personal favorite when

2059
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:11,490
the game ends? What shade of
Gatorade will get dumped on the

2060
02:01:11,490 --> 02:01:16,050
winning coach? What color will a
Gatorade bath be? Grown men have

2061
02:01:16,050 --> 02:01:19,350
actually been debating this all
week. Young people like blue

2062
02:01:19,350 --> 02:01:19,950
Gatorade,

2063
02:01:20,010 --> 02:01:23,070
although orange orange has moved
down to plus five hundreds.

2064
02:01:23,430 --> 02:01:27,240
And who stands to profit off all
this? Aside from the Gatorade

2065
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:32,340
delivery guy? The sports books,
they're expecting 68 million

2066
02:01:32,340 --> 02:01:37,260
Americans to gamble $23 billion
on the Super Bowl this year.

2067
02:01:37,650 --> 02:01:41,880
Industry insiders estimate about
half that on these crazy side

2068
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:47,610
bets. And so as we near the end
of this 273 word news story,

2069
02:01:47,700 --> 02:01:51,270
where I have gestured more with
my left hand and my right. Let

2070
02:01:51,270 --> 02:01:54,630
me ask you one final question.
How many of you have been

2071
02:01:54,630 --> 02:01:59,130
waiting around just to see if my
dog will catch this ball? It's

2072
02:01:59,130 --> 02:02:02,880
the same drama within a drama
that fuels this Super Bowl

2073
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:04,980
betting frenzy. Shut

2074
02:02:04,980 --> 02:02:10,710
Adam Curry: up. So first of all,
did you get my check? No, no, I

2075
02:02:10,710 --> 02:02:12,930
send you the check sent to the
PIO box. You always told me to

2076
02:02:12,930 --> 02:02:14,670
send to the PIO box not to the
house. Okay,

2077
02:02:14,670 --> 02:02:16,170
John C Dvorak: well, eventually
you

2078
02:02:16,170 --> 02:02:18,870
Adam Curry: should have taken
the Bitcoin you would have had

2079
02:02:18,870 --> 02:02:20,550
10% more. And

2080
02:02:20,550 --> 02:02:22,380
John C Dvorak: then if I kept
the Bitcoin another week, it'd

2081
02:02:22,380 --> 02:02:26,970
be 10% Less, okay. And it'd be
10% more then it'd be 10% Less.

2082
02:02:27,150 --> 02:02:30,840
Okay, that'd be 10% more okay.
And then it'd be temporary. I

2083
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:34,020
just rather have the cash. So
well, I thank you for that if

2084
02:02:34,020 --> 02:02:40,800
you did, and our our classic is
part of the degenerate gambler

2085
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:44,880
syndrome. I've known these guys
who do this, which

2086
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:49,830
Adam Curry: according to news
reports is now mainly in Vegas.

2087
02:02:49,830 --> 02:02:53,700
Certainly people over 80 years
old. They're all gambling crazy.

2088
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:56,940
Did you know this? No. I

2089
02:02:56,940 --> 02:02:58,530
John C Dvorak: didn't hear about
the 80 year old

2090
02:02:58,620 --> 02:03:02,310
Adam Curry: dad grandma.
Apparently grandma is the is the

2091
02:03:02,310 --> 02:03:08,910
most frequent better on sports.
On the Super Bowl and prop bet

2092
02:03:08,910 --> 02:03:12,180
specifically, according to the
Guardian, I'll give it then

2093
02:03:12,180 --> 02:03:15,570
John C Dvorak: I find this hard
to believe. Okay. And then I've

2094
02:03:15,570 --> 02:03:18,000
hung out in sports books down
there. I don't see any old

2095
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:23,190
ladies. It just doesn't make
sense. But the inveterate

2096
02:03:23,610 --> 02:03:28,260
degenerate gambler, they are
ended this invites, which I

2097
02:03:28,260 --> 02:03:31,200
think and I think the two of us
kind of agree on this is that

2098
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:32,880
most of these games are rigged.

2099
02:03:33,330 --> 02:03:37,650
Adam Curry: Well, so So now we
get down to the nitty gritty. Is

2100
02:03:37,650 --> 02:03:43,320
this peak Swift? Or is there yet
another peak to come? Because I

2101
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:44,220
mean, what what

2102
02:03:44,220 --> 02:03:45,990
John C Dvorak: we can eat it?
Oh, hold on, what could there be

2103
02:03:45,990 --> 02:03:51,660
after this? Well, if they let's
say the Chiefs win or lose the

2104
02:03:51,660 --> 02:03:58,290
Super Bowl is this make Taylor
more or less popular? Depending?

2105
02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:00,270
Depending on the outcome of the
game?

2106
02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:07,620
Adam Curry: I think she, I mean,
I'm just looking at the at the

2107
02:04:07,620 --> 02:04:08,100
laws of

2108
02:04:08,100 --> 02:04:11,370
John C Dvorak: nature. Would it
be set up for them to lose? So

2109
02:04:11,370 --> 02:04:14,730
today, we're gonna have a
sympathetic Oh, poor Taylor. No,

2110
02:04:14,730 --> 02:04:17,190
Adam Curry: no, I'm looking at
the laws of nature. The laws of

2111
02:04:17,190 --> 02:04:21,660
nature dictate if you use the
media, which is your assertion

2112
02:04:21,930 --> 02:04:26,070
that they are using the media to
promote themselves but to

2113
02:04:26,070 --> 02:04:30,120
promote the NFL that it's a
publicity stunt. The law of

2114
02:04:30,120 --> 02:04:34,590
nature requires particularly in
America, but also in the UK is

2115
02:04:34,590 --> 02:04:37,860
very good at it, that the
boomerang comes around and chop

2116
02:04:37,860 --> 02:04:41,730
your head off and they and they
just excoriated you and they,

2117
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:46,230
they just kick you down into the
mud. So of course you can then

2118
02:04:46,260 --> 02:04:50,040
be the comeback kid in a few
years. See Oda cog.

2119
02:04:50,070 --> 02:04:51,930
John C Dvorak: She doesn't need
to be a comeback kid.

2120
02:04:53,070 --> 02:04:55,590
Adam Curry: She will have if
she's, if she's, you know,

2121
02:04:55,590 --> 02:04:59,610
bashed into the mud because she
distracted Kelsey and he fumbles

2122
02:04:59,610 --> 02:05:02,250
the ball. The 40 Niners pick it
up I think even mahomes

2123
02:05:02,280 --> 02:05:04,410
quarterbacks gonna pick it up
he's gonna run it all the way to

2124
02:05:04,410 --> 02:05:06,990
the endzone wins the game
mahomes

2125
02:05:06,990 --> 02:05:07,950
John C Dvorak: is with the
chiefs.

2126
02:05:07,980 --> 02:05:09,870
Adam Curry: Oh shoot wrong
sports team

2127
02:05:12,690 --> 02:05:14,070
John C Dvorak: always comes out

2128
02:05:17,369 --> 02:05:20,429
Adam Curry: my basic thesis
remains Do you think she's going

2129
02:05:20,429 --> 02:05:22,019
to be on the quarterback

2130
02:05:22,410 --> 02:05:24,450
John C Dvorak: of the other team
wouldn't be picking it up would

2131
02:05:24,450 --> 02:05:27,930
not be we wouldn't be on the
field. I gotta be a defensive.

2132
02:05:28,500 --> 02:05:31,710
Adam Curry: We all know I'm not
a sports ball guy. But I am

2133
02:05:31,710 --> 02:05:35,340
feeling I am feeling of loss for
the chiefs. I'm Taylor getting

2134
02:05:35,340 --> 02:05:39,150
blamed for it. That's it's just
the law of nature. Now, it could

2135
02:05:39,150 --> 02:05:42,870
happen that we're not at peak
swift yet. And then what?

2136
02:05:42,870 --> 02:05:44,730
John C Dvorak: Okay, the every
time you say that, I'm going to

2137
02:05:44,730 --> 02:05:49,170
ask the same question. How can
how if this isn't going to be

2138
02:05:49,170 --> 02:05:53,670
peaks with you? What will be I
don't see any other opportunity.

2139
02:05:53,670 --> 02:05:57,570
This is right now left at the
White House. She just finished

2140
02:05:57,570 --> 02:06:00,240
the arrows tour. Yes.

2141
02:06:00,330 --> 02:06:04,620
Adam Curry: So the White House
at the White that's that would

2142
02:06:04,620 --> 02:06:07,950
be peaks with cheese when Kelsey

2143
02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:10,770
John C Dvorak: Irwin and she
goes to the White House with

2144
02:06:10,770 --> 02:06:12,930
Kelsey and the rest of the team.
Yes.

2145
02:06:13,170 --> 02:06:15,450
Adam Curry: And then they take
pictures of her in the Oval

2146
02:06:15,450 --> 02:06:22,020
Office in the President's chair.
Peaks removed. We've got to hit

2147
02:06:22,020 --> 02:06:25,620
it eventually. You've got to hit
it eventually it nobody stays on

2148
02:06:25,620 --> 02:06:26,610
top forever. You

2149
02:06:26,610 --> 02:06:29,070
John C Dvorak: just I understand
that and I'm in total agreement

2150
02:06:29,070 --> 02:06:33,030
with the thesis that people who
overdo it with the media get

2151
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:37,680
shot down to those normal
chopped down as Yes, always.

2152
02:06:37,950 --> 02:06:40,050
Adam Curry: They always do. I
don't want it for her but I'm

2153
02:06:40,050 --> 02:06:41,220
just calling reality.

2154
02:06:42,090 --> 02:06:44,520
John C Dvorak: I think we could
want it for it's not a big deal.

2155
02:06:45,330 --> 02:06:53,010
Like she just can't afford it
like Brittany's latest thing or

2156
02:06:53,010 --> 02:06:56,340
she's dancing in a devil's
costume on Tik Tok?

2157
02:06:58,260 --> 02:07:02,310
Adam Curry: Or Britney man, poor
Britney is a wreck. For Britney.

2158
02:07:04,170 --> 02:07:08,190
John C Dvorak: I had a friend
who was a personal assistant to

2159
02:07:08,190 --> 02:07:14,340
Brittany. Really? Yeah, he is a
software guy. And he is over gay

2160
02:07:14,340 --> 02:07:16,470
now. But he was a personal
assistant. He worked for the

2161
02:07:16,770 --> 02:07:22,050
Britney group. And he said, that
is so bad that the whole thing

2162
02:07:22,050 --> 02:07:27,330
is so pathetic that one day, she
came up to him and said, I can't

2163
02:07:27,330 --> 02:07:31,950
remember his first name. But she
said Do you know how I can find

2164
02:07:31,950 --> 02:07:37,230
it? Well, how much money is in
my bank account? Okay. And he

2165
02:07:37,230 --> 02:07:40,320
was taken aback by that thinking
holy mackerel, what are they?

2166
02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:42,570
They're just keeping her in the
dark about everything. Oh,

2167
02:07:42,570 --> 02:07:44,010
Adam Curry: there was a
question. It wasn't like a

2168
02:07:44,010 --> 02:07:46,800
riddle. It was like, Can you Can
I? How can I find out?

2169
02:07:49,050 --> 02:07:50,520
John C Dvorak: It was a
question. How did she doesn't

2170
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:51,810
know how to access her bank

2171
02:07:51,810 --> 02:07:54,120
Adam Curry: account? No, no, she
but she's been abused. This is

2172
02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:55,080
an abused woman.

2173
02:07:55,500 --> 02:07:56,970
John C Dvorak: Yeah, totally.
Very abused.

2174
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:59,760
Adam Curry: This is a very sad
story. You ever see her dancing

2175
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:01,380
on her on her Instagram?

2176
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:05,010
John C Dvorak: When he was on
the Instagram or Tiktok

2177
02:08:05,010 --> 02:08:08,640
recently, and this Delos guy
didn't see that? Well. It just

2178
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:10,140
came out. Oh.

2179
02:08:11,730 --> 02:08:14,280
Adam Curry: I just showed up in
your timeline. No,

2180
02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:16,440
John C Dvorak: it showed up. I
think it showed up on no agenda.

2181
02:08:16,470 --> 02:08:23,580
No. Social you haven't seen the
one day I was in? I think I was

2182
02:08:23,580 --> 02:08:27,690
in Singapore. Yeah. I was in
Singapore. And there were these

2183
02:08:27,690 --> 02:08:34,230
pictures of some model all over
the there's like a, like a

2184
02:08:34,350 --> 02:08:37,260
elevated train or something in
the element pole poster, this

2185
02:08:37,260 --> 02:08:41,970
huge picture of this gorgeous
model. And I said, What Who is

2186
02:08:41,970 --> 02:08:45,150
this woman? I've never seen her
before. And the guy says to me

2187
02:08:45,150 --> 02:08:49,170
is Dr. Mirror and he says oh,
that's Britney Spears. I've seen

2188
02:08:49,170 --> 02:08:51,990
Britney Spears. It doesn't look
anything like Britney Spears.

2189
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:55,830
But it was they had her made up
with a really dark eyes and it

2190
02:08:55,830 --> 02:08:59,970
was just a spectacular look. And
it's just as though this woman

2191
02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:04,350
probably had to cash flow for
her must have been unbuilt. It

2192
02:09:04,350 --> 02:09:08,580
still must be but she's been
just totally robbed. Yeah, yeah,

2193
02:09:08,580 --> 02:09:09,570
it's a sad story.

2194
02:09:12,270 --> 02:09:14,250
Adam Curry: I'm gonna go to
before we take our break, I want

2195
02:09:14,250 --> 02:09:18,990
to take a quick little trip to
what's happening with with

2196
02:09:18,990 --> 02:09:26,250
China. So the all the sheriffs
were called to Washington DC

2197
02:09:26,280 --> 02:09:30,510
earlier this week. And they all
came back with a similar report

2198
02:09:30,510 --> 02:09:34,200
including our sheriff here in
Gillespie County. Remember,

2199
02:09:34,230 --> 02:09:36,930
Unknown: I've told you this, and
I don't want to be this is not

2200
02:09:36,930 --> 02:09:39,330
our sheriff by the way. This is
Butler County was a Chicken

2201
02:09:39,330 --> 02:09:42,450
Little that says the sky is
falling. And nobody believed

2202
02:09:42,450 --> 02:09:46,230
him. And I want to tell you that
it's going to happen

2203
02:09:46,230 --> 02:09:48,900
here. Sheriff Richard Jones
believe terrorists are living

2204
02:09:48,900 --> 02:09:52,230
among us already. This concern
is being raised after he heard

2205
02:09:52,230 --> 02:09:55,590
the FBI Director speak to
sheriffs from across the country

2206
02:09:55,590 --> 02:09:58,830
last week after hearing those
remarks. He believes in attack

2207
02:09:58,830 --> 02:10:02,370
is coming and he's said some
attacks have already started in

2208
02:10:02,370 --> 02:10:05,580
the form of cyber attacks. And
they're coming after his

2209
02:10:05,580 --> 02:10:07,110
department daily. I was

2210
02:10:07,110 --> 02:10:11,790
told today, that five times a
day China tries to hack our

2211
02:10:11,790 --> 02:10:16,710
computer system. Butler County,
Ohio, just as county in the of

2212
02:10:16,740 --> 02:10:17,070
one of

2213
02:10:17,070 --> 02:10:20,640
3300. Immediately upon his
return from Washington, DC, the

2214
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:23,790
sheriff started making changes.
He's ordering more ammunition

2215
02:10:23,790 --> 02:10:27,900
for his officers. And he's also
stocked each sheriff's cruiser

2216
02:10:27,900 --> 02:10:31,560
with an AR 15. On top of that,
he's ramping up the citizen

2217
02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:33,780
police academy training
sessions. We

2218
02:10:33,780 --> 02:10:36,990
want you to be concerned now,
you're a fool if you don't

2219
02:10:36,990 --> 02:10:41,070
listen to the chatter. And when
the federal government says it's

2220
02:10:41,100 --> 02:10:44,700
they're here. And it's common.
We want to educate them and

2221
02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:47,640
we're going to increase our
citizens on patrol. And we're

2222
02:10:47,640 --> 02:10:48,600
going to be the police.

2223
02:10:48,660 --> 02:10:51,150
The sheriff has concerns about
hacking, tampering with the

2224
02:10:51,150 --> 02:10:53,940
sheriff's office, the board of
elections, the power grid, and

2225
02:10:53,940 --> 02:10:55,830
cell towers. Don't

2226
02:10:55,830 --> 02:10:59,520
have to believe me at all. If
you want to. You don't have to

2227
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:03,060
be trained in firearms. When we
call you you can go hide in your

2228
02:11:03,060 --> 02:11:07,230
basement, build a safe room.
Good luck for you. So

2229
02:11:07,620 --> 02:11:09,690
John C Dvorak: what guy sounds
just like Lindsey Graham.

2230
02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:14,010
Adam Curry: So what this is
about is on the heels of the of

2231
02:11:14,010 --> 02:11:19,110
this speech, which I think
actually this is 10 days ago

2232
02:11:19,110 --> 02:11:20,520
February 1 Tonight,

2233
02:11:20,550 --> 02:11:23,670
Unknown: the FBI Director
sounding the alarm about Chinese

2234
02:11:23,670 --> 02:11:27,540
efforts to attack American power
grids, transportation systems

2235
02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:29,490
and communications networks.

2236
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:32,400
John C Dvorak: China's hackers
are positioning on American

2237
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:37,560
infrastructure in preparation to
wreak havoc and cause real world

2238
02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:39,750
harm to American citizens and

2239
02:11:39,750 --> 02:11:43,980
Adam Curry: communities. This is
a very underreported testimony

2240
02:11:44,010 --> 02:11:47,010
Unknown: and Christopher Ray
announcing a major takedown of a

2241
02:11:47,010 --> 02:11:50,790
Chinese hacking operation on
American soil. Dubbed volt

2242
02:11:50,790 --> 02:11:51,570
typhoon

2243
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:54,690
John C Dvorak: working with our
partners, the FBI ran a court

2244
02:11:54,690 --> 02:11:59,970
authorized on network operation
to shut down volt typhoon and

2245
02:11:59,970 --> 02:12:05,460
the access it enabled steps.
China was taking in other words

2246
02:12:05,460 --> 02:12:10,260
to find and prepare to destroy
or degrade the civilian critical

2247
02:12:10,260 --> 02:12:14,130
infrastructure that keeps us
safe. And prosperous.

2248
02:12:14,250 --> 02:12:16,920
Unknown: Ray and other officials
say China poses the world's

2249
02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:20,100
greatest cyber threat, and they
warned that Americans remain

2250
02:12:20,100 --> 02:12:24,390
vulnerable. US cybersecurity
chief Jen easterly describing

2251
02:12:24,390 --> 02:12:27,870
the devastating impact of a
potential massive Chinese cyber

2252
02:12:27,870 --> 02:12:29,550
attack telecommunications

2253
02:12:29,550 --> 02:12:32,490
going down so people can't use
their cell phone. People start

2254
02:12:32,490 --> 02:12:36,420
getting sick from polluted
water. Trains get derailed air

2255
02:12:36,420 --> 02:12:39,240
traffic control system port
control systems are

2256
02:12:39,240 --> 02:12:45,210
malfunctioning. This is truly
and everything everywhere. All

2257
02:12:45,210 --> 02:12:46,530
at once scenario.

2258
02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:49,830
Easterly said China believes
that sort of cyber attack would

2259
02:12:49,830 --> 02:12:53,670
crush any American will to
defend Taiwan from a Chinese

2260
02:12:53,670 --> 02:12:57,330
invasion. In a statement to NBC
News a Chinese government

2261
02:12:57,330 --> 02:13:00,840
spokesman denied China hacks
into foreign networks calling it

2262
02:13:00,870 --> 02:13:02,550
irresponsible criticism.

2263
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:06,570
Adam Curry: Okay, what is this
about? They're scaring people

2264
02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:10,320
probably unnecessarily seems a
little odd that they're going to

2265
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:14,400
take down cell phone water plans
air traffic control, it's not

2266
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:18,600
like polluted water somehow like
it was one switch you throw in

2267
02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:22,620
everything goes down and then
scaring these Lindsey Graham

2268
02:13:22,620 --> 02:13:26,340
Podunk sheriff's into believing
that China's hacking your your

2269
02:13:26,340 --> 02:13:29,910
very own computer systems of
course, five times a day that's

2270
02:13:29,910 --> 02:13:35,190
nothing five times a day is
nothing we get 50,000 pings from

2271
02:13:35,190 --> 02:13:39,330
all over the world every day.
Yeah, at least and it's all just

2272
02:13:39,330 --> 02:13:40,770
bought remember

2273
02:13:40,770 --> 02:13:43,020
John C Dvorak: that program that
used to be sold it was like a

2274
02:13:43,410 --> 02:13:47,040
shields up kind of a thing and
it will use a bit in the corner

2275
02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:49,320
would tell you how many people
were trying to attack you oh the

2276
02:13:49,320 --> 02:13:53,160
pew pew map No, no, not that pew
pew Matthews a product on your

2277
02:13:53,160 --> 02:13:58,470
own computer. And it was just
show a just a laundry list of IP

2278
02:13:58,470 --> 02:14:02,460
addresses coming in hitting your
machine. And it was just never

2279
02:14:02,460 --> 02:14:04,770
ending it was just like one
after another after another

2280
02:14:04,770 --> 02:14:07,740
after another was like by the
end of the day there were at

2281
02:14:07,740 --> 02:14:11,610
eight people somebody in the
zone alarm is being visited zone

2282
02:14:11,610 --> 02:14:15,510
alarm. Yes. Yeah. And it was
just constant because that's

2283
02:14:15,510 --> 02:14:19,530
what's goes on that's what five
times why

2284
02:14:19,530 --> 02:14:22,650
Adam Curry: is the FBI why are
they doing this? I mean it's

2285
02:14:22,650 --> 02:14:25,770
it's week cycle has something to
do with Iraq. Okay, six weeks

2286
02:14:25,770 --> 02:14:28,710
cycle and then you know, they
they got volts typhoon

2287
02:14:29,670 --> 02:14:31,860
John C Dvorak: G's, whatever
that is. And

2288
02:14:31,890 --> 02:14:35,190
Adam Curry: maybe it's to beef
up military industrial complex

2289
02:14:35,190 --> 02:14:38,220
purchasing for the Taiwan
invasion or whatever. I mean, I

2290
02:14:38,220 --> 02:14:39,060
don't like it.

2291
02:14:39,090 --> 02:14:41,250
John C Dvorak: Now the whole
thing if I had never even heard

2292
02:14:41,250 --> 02:14:44,670
that this was news to me. So
they're doing a shit job.

2293
02:14:44,700 --> 02:14:46,710
Adam Curry: That's what I'm
saying this well, this. I think

2294
02:14:46,710 --> 02:14:49,050
that's why they pulled all the
sheriffs in because this was

2295
02:14:49,050 --> 02:14:52,590
February 1, when we I didn't
play this report at the time but

2296
02:14:52,590 --> 02:14:56,100
we had it as NBC Nightly News.
So because they

2297
02:14:56,100 --> 02:14:57,840
John C Dvorak: can't get enough
people worked up about it

2298
02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:00,960
because I think I think there's
enough computer literate people

2299
02:15:01,110 --> 02:15:04,170
that just soon as you say the
Chinese are trying to attack us

2300
02:15:04,170 --> 02:15:10,800
five times a day. You have to
roll your eyes. Yeah. Yeah. So

2301
02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:13,080
if they're going to try to
attack us, it's going to be

2302
02:15:13,260 --> 02:15:15,360
10,000 times an hour.

2303
02:15:15,690 --> 02:15:18,660
Adam Curry: What people really
should do is just never watch

2304
02:15:18,690 --> 02:15:22,710
any news at all. Listen to us.
Twice a week. Just listen to us

2305
02:15:22,710 --> 02:15:26,220
once a week. You'll get all the
news, you'll find out what's

2306
02:15:26,220 --> 02:15:31,530
going on. Is true by People
magazine curl up with a glass of

2307
02:15:31,530 --> 02:15:34,770
Chardonnay, by the way people
magazine it's like it's only 10

2308
02:15:34,770 --> 02:15:38,820
pages. Have you seen this thing
in the supermarket? No, I

2309
02:15:38,820 --> 02:15:42,540
haven't. Oh, it used to be the
Bible. And now it's just a

2310
02:15:42,540 --> 02:15:47,910
little thing little thin. It
looks like 10 Maybe 20 pages top

2311
02:15:48,090 --> 02:15:53,340
and it's always got a celebrity
with cancer on the front Wow,

2312
02:15:53,490 --> 02:15:58,170
it's really bad is bad No, I
mean, people editor don't worry

2313
02:15:58,170 --> 02:16:01,200
about it. This is all just meant
to spin you up and you know

2314
02:16:01,200 --> 02:16:06,090
what? I'm saying this is an
elder so so here you go again,

2315
02:16:06,090 --> 02:16:08,100
so you can rest you

2316
02:16:08,100 --> 02:16:10,770
John C Dvorak: can write an
elder that's it. Showtime the

2317
02:16:10,770 --> 02:16:11,730
elder There you go.

2318
02:16:11,730 --> 02:16:13,740
Adam Curry: Here's something we
should be worried about. This

2319
02:16:13,740 --> 02:16:18,060
Unknown: is how Hong Kong rings
in the Year of the Dragon 1000s

2320
02:16:18,060 --> 02:16:21,570
of people flocked to this famous
temple to offer their first

2321
02:16:21,600 --> 02:16:25,470
incense at the altar at midnight
to mark the very beginning.

2322
02:16:25,740 --> 02:16:26,850
Lunar New Year,

2323
02:16:27,030 --> 02:16:29,730
Adam Curry: it's Lunar New Year,
John. That's how it started last

2324
02:16:29,730 --> 02:16:31,050
time as a traditional

2325
02:16:31,050 --> 02:16:34,050
Unknown: ritual worshipers
believe that the earlier they

2326
02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:37,560
make their offerings, the better
luck they will have in the year

2327
02:16:37,560 --> 02:16:38,730
ahead. So

2328
02:16:38,730 --> 02:16:41,250
Adam Curry: everyone's traveling
around China traveling around

2329
02:16:41,250 --> 02:16:44,910
the world going to Italy.
Remember that was wasn't

2330
02:16:44,910 --> 02:16:48,450
everything wasn't the spread of
COVID being blamed on the Lunar

2331
02:16:48,450 --> 02:16:54,060
New Year traffic? No, they cut
it off. Or they did cut it off.

2332
02:16:54,060 --> 02:16:56,850
Well, how come they let them go
this time? Because they

2333
02:16:56,879 --> 02:17:00,479
John C Dvorak: did Chinese have
this tradition of taken off and

2334
02:17:00,629 --> 02:17:03,539
lunar near New Year. They're
just like the number of travel

2335
02:17:03,539 --> 02:17:10,139
miles they run through is
unbelievable. Well, I have one

2336
02:17:10,169 --> 02:17:16,349
hope that door plugs? Yes. Okay.
Besides the meta AI,

2337
02:17:17,400 --> 02:17:18,600
Adam Curry: I want to I want you
to do the right

2338
02:17:18,600 --> 02:17:21,660
John C Dvorak: let's play this
is meta versus AI versus PBS

2339
02:17:21,720 --> 02:17:22,290
earlier this

2340
02:17:22,290 --> 02:17:25,200
Unknown: week as the 2024
election campaigns picked up

2341
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:29,190
steam. Mehta announced it would
start labeling AI generated

2342
02:17:29,190 --> 02:17:33,240
images that appear on Facebook,
Instagram and threads to help

2343
02:17:33,240 --> 02:17:36,870
users better judge what they're
seeing. In December, an advocacy

2344
02:17:36,870 --> 02:17:41,190
group called Free Press said
meta YouTube and X have rolled

2345
02:17:41,190 --> 02:17:45,270
back a total of 17 policies
intended to protect against hate

2346
02:17:45,270 --> 02:17:47,430
speech and misinformation. Oh,

2347
02:17:47,430 --> 02:17:50,190
Adam Curry: so they finally have
AI that can identify AI.

2348
02:17:51,690 --> 02:17:54,000
John C Dvorak: Well, hold on.
First of all, how does this this

2349
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:56,970
is this whole beginning of this
whole premise for this report is

2350
02:17:56,970 --> 02:18:01,980
a non sequitur. Yeah, he's
talking about meta at helping

2351
02:18:01,980 --> 02:18:05,970
the public by identifying AI
images on the on its site, and

2352
02:18:05,970 --> 02:18:08,460
then it switches so they're not
doing anything.

2353
02:18:11,459 --> 02:18:14,939
Adam Curry: Yeah, the stock will
be 800. Before you know it.

2354
02:18:15,240 --> 02:18:17,490
Unknown: The group also said
layoffs. If the three companies

2355
02:18:17,490 --> 02:18:21,330
make it harder to enforce the
safeguards that remain, oh, we

2356
02:18:21,330 --> 02:18:24,210
need some government money.
Katie Harbeth is the chief

2357
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:27,720
global affairs officer at duco,
which is a technology consulting

2358
02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:31,800
firm. She's also a former public
policy director at Facebook.

2359
02:18:32,220 --> 02:18:35,310
Katie, this announcement from
Mehta how big a deal is that?

2360
02:18:35,310 --> 02:18:39,390
How helpful is this going to be?
And is it enough?

2361
02:18:40,079 --> 02:18:44,789
So I think that this is just one
of many important steps that all

2362
02:18:45,689 --> 02:18:48,809
have to take when thinking about
safeguarding elections, not only

2363
02:18:48,809 --> 02:18:52,259
here in the United States, but
around the globe. And so we are

2364
02:18:52,259 --> 02:18:56,759
facing new challenges with AI as
well as existing challenges that

2365
02:18:56,759 --> 02:18:59,249
have been around for a long
time, such as missing

2366
02:18:59,249 --> 02:19:02,399
disinformation, foreign
interference, transparency

2367
02:19:02,429 --> 02:19:05,669
around political ads. And I
think one of the challenges as

2368
02:19:05,669 --> 02:19:08,459
we go into this cycle, is that
that question of whether or not

2369
02:19:08,459 --> 02:19:12,599
these platforms are prepared is
we just don't know because they

2370
02:19:12,599 --> 02:19:14,819
are also putting in a lot of
investment. They're making a lot

2371
02:19:14,819 --> 02:19:18,029
of changes, as you mentioned,
but we also don't know the

2372
02:19:18,029 --> 02:19:21,119
twists and turns that await for
us over the course of this next

2373
02:19:21,119 --> 02:19:24,149
year. And so the real question,
the real proof of this will be

2374
02:19:24,149 --> 02:19:28,259
how these companies act as these
different elections happen. And

2375
02:19:28,259 --> 02:19:32,099
as we see different forms of
nefarious interference happen,

2376
02:19:32,160 --> 02:19:38,040
Adam Curry: you know, now that
Zuckerberg got spanked, maybe,

2377
02:19:38,490 --> 02:19:42,390
maybe they're wising up a little
bit and it's like, you know,

2378
02:19:42,960 --> 02:19:46,950
maybe we should be doing some AI
for one of these teams. Or be

2379
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:49,410
labeling stuff that's real is
fake.

2380
02:19:50,430 --> 02:19:53,430
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
that's gonna happen for sure.

2381
02:19:53,460 --> 02:19:55,740
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, the
White House just announced

2382
02:19:55,740 --> 02:19:58,590
they're going to
cryptographically verify

2383
02:19:58,590 --> 02:20:05,280
official communication comes as
AI deep fakes surge. So the I

2384
02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:06,780
guess they're putting their
press releases on the

2385
02:20:06,780 --> 02:20:08,700
blockchain. This year.

2386
02:20:09,990 --> 02:20:11,370
John C Dvorak: They're gonna use
micro dots.

2387
02:20:12,420 --> 02:20:16,830
Adam Curry: See a surge in
blockchain? Sam Altman Raceway,

2388
02:20:16,830 --> 02:20:16,950
they

2389
02:20:16,950 --> 02:20:18,630
John C Dvorak: got part three of
this. Oh, I'm sorry. This

2390
02:20:18,630 --> 02:20:21,330
Unknown: is one of the biggest
open questions for me. Many of

2391
02:20:21,330 --> 02:20:24,360
the some of the platforms such
as meta have actually announced

2392
02:20:24,540 --> 02:20:26,730
things that they're doing for
the upcoming Indonesian

2393
02:20:26,730 --> 02:20:30,330
elections for the Mexico
elections coming up. But they're

2394
02:20:30,330 --> 02:20:32,910
just not being as transparent
about that, and what that means

2395
02:20:32,910 --> 02:20:36,120
around the globe. Traditionally,
we have seen just a lot more

2396
02:20:36,120 --> 02:20:39,840
time, money and effort put into
the English language into

2397
02:20:39,870 --> 02:20:43,830
elections in the US and the EU.
And I am worried that so much

2398
02:20:43,830 --> 02:20:46,800
attention is going to get sucked
into those elections that we

2399
02:20:46,800 --> 02:20:50,190
will forget about these
elections all around the globe,

2400
02:20:50,250 --> 02:20:53,280
that will have just as much
impact in terms of the future of

2401
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:57,660
the global world order. And how
many Oh, no on everything from

2402
02:20:57,750 --> 02:21:00,510
from climate change to other
geopolitical issues.

2403
02:21:02,010 --> 02:21:03,690
John C Dvorak: Climate change,
turn

2404
02:21:03,690 --> 02:21:06,060
Adam Curry: off your
televisions, people shut down

2405
02:21:06,060 --> 02:21:09,480
your social media accounts.
Don't look at it. Just look at

2406
02:21:09,480 --> 02:21:14,910
the floor. The spinning will go
away. It's okay. It's okay. Sam

2407
02:21:14,910 --> 02:21:17,940
Altman is really smart though.
He is now raising quote

2408
02:21:17,940 --> 02:21:23,280
trillions of dollars to build AI
chips. That's where the money

2409
02:21:23,280 --> 02:21:27,180
is. In in raising money not I
don't think the

2410
02:21:28,380 --> 02:21:30,330
John C Dvorak: No that's your
you nailed it. Yeah, embrace.

2411
02:21:31,020 --> 02:21:35,130
The money is raising money is in
raising money. And then

2412
02:21:35,130 --> 02:21:39,240
Adam Curry: the big news, Google
barf, no longer known as Google

2413
02:21:39,240 --> 02:21:43,530
barf. It's now Gemini. They've
they've they've rebranded to

2414
02:21:43,530 --> 02:21:44,460
Gemini.

2415
02:21:44,790 --> 02:21:45,900
John C Dvorak: What was it
before?

2416
02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:46,800
Adam Curry: Barf?

2417
02:21:47,370 --> 02:21:48,210
John C Dvorak: That was a bar

2418
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:51,840
Adam Curry: that was barred.
Google barred we dubbed it barf.

2419
02:21:52,560 --> 02:21:56,220
Okay, but but but check it out.
So Gemini, you can use Google

2420
02:21:56,220 --> 02:21:59,820
Gemini. But then if you really
want to use it, you have no

2421
02:21:59,820 --> 02:22:03,900
business model that you Oh, you
gotta get Gemini Pro for $20 a

2422
02:22:03,900 --> 02:22:07,230
month. I mean, there's no
business model. Yeah, they're

2423
02:22:07,230 --> 02:22:10,950
doing like premium content. If
you want the real deal, you got

2424
02:22:10,950 --> 02:22:14,220
to you got to get on board you
got to buy it. I don't think

2425
02:22:14,220 --> 02:22:17,370
this is a very good idea. These
guys know how to do advertising.

2426
02:22:17,970 --> 02:22:19,650
That's their business still,
isn't it?

2427
02:22:21,810 --> 02:22:23,910
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
their whole damn Yeah, how

2428
02:22:23,910 --> 02:22:26,550
they're gonna do it so well.
Every time they trade they

2429
02:22:26,550 --> 02:22:29,760
venture off into something else
they get all jacked up about it

2430
02:22:29,790 --> 02:22:33,420
they make a little money like a
very low margin money and then

2431
02:22:33,420 --> 02:22:35,910
they said this is no good we
can't get by with this low

2432
02:22:35,910 --> 02:22:40,200
margin money. Let's cancel it
and screw everyone who adopted

2433
02:22:40,200 --> 02:22:40,350
it.

2434
02:22:40,740 --> 02:22:42,090
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your

2435
02:22:42,090 --> 02:22:44,280
courage say in the morning to
you the man who bought the see

2436
02:22:44,280 --> 02:22:46,890
and committing journalism say
hello to my friend on the other

2437
02:22:46,890 --> 02:22:48,420
end and we're only missing
John's

2438
02:22:52,140 --> 02:22:54,150
John C Dvorak: morning yo, Mr.
Adam curry in the morning little

2439
02:22:54,150 --> 02:22:56,910
chips and seal boots on the
ground feet in the air subs in

2440
02:22:56,910 --> 02:22:59,940
the water dams and nights out
there. And

2441
02:22:59,940 --> 02:23:01,620
Adam Curry: in the morning to
all the trolls and the troll

2442
02:23:01,620 --> 02:23:09,180
room. Hello, trolls. Hold on.
Let's see last Sunday, we had

2443
02:23:09,180 --> 02:23:17,160
2123 currently 2045 So we're
down down a little bit down a

2444
02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:18,210
little bit but it's a Sunday.

2445
02:23:18,450 --> 02:23:19,650
John C Dvorak: We talking about
Africa.

2446
02:23:20,430 --> 02:23:23,670
Adam Curry: Oh my god. I had I
had Africa clips. Well, we did

2447
02:23:23,670 --> 02:23:27,960
we Yes. We talked about the
Nigerian guy. Boom. That's why

2448
02:23:29,670 --> 02:23:33,600
we talk about the Nigerian guy.
There's African guy killed in a

2449
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:38,400
helicopter tune in now. Hello
there trolls. We love you. We

2450
02:23:38,400 --> 02:23:41,580
love you being here in our troll
room listening to the ChIAT. And

2451
02:23:41,580 --> 02:23:46,110
to the shy to the show live the
shy of the shy of llove s right?

2452
02:23:46,470 --> 02:23:49,170
I'm really confused today. It's
a Super Bowl Sunday. I'm all

2453
02:23:49,170 --> 02:23:51,450
jacked up. It's all crazy. So
what's going on?

2454
02:23:51,660 --> 02:23:53,460
John C Dvorak: Trying to watch
this game? Yeah, of course.

2455
02:23:53,460 --> 02:23:54,480
Adam Curry: I'm gonna watch the
game. How

2456
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:56,820
John C Dvorak: could I watch all
those ads? Because every ad you

2457
02:23:56,820 --> 02:24:00,780
have the ad for this year Super
Bowl is $7 million for 30

2458
02:24:00,780 --> 02:24:01,470
seconds.

2459
02:24:03,240 --> 02:24:06,030
Adam Curry: Wow, that's a little
bit more than most podcast ads.

2460
02:24:07,890 --> 02:24:12,420
They were the ads on Joe Rogan
show. There's no ads.

2461
02:24:13,320 --> 02:24:14,730
John C Dvorak: I have not brand
safe,

2462
02:24:14,820 --> 02:24:17,430
Adam Curry: but I haven't heard
well. It's supposed to be $250

2463
02:24:17,430 --> 02:24:21,030
million. I haven't heard an ad
yet. Maybe on Spotify, but I

2464
02:24:21,030 --> 02:24:24,030
don't think he's in every
podcast app now. Which is cool.

2465
02:24:24,750 --> 02:24:30,660
I now you know, because I wasn't
really a Spotify guy. Anyway, $7

2466
02:24:30,660 --> 02:24:34,020
million. Now I'm more interested
in the halftime. I like the

2467
02:24:34,020 --> 02:24:36,630
spectacle. The television event
itself. I

2468
02:24:36,630 --> 02:24:39,120
John C Dvorak: hate the halftime
show. I always think it's lame.

2469
02:24:39,570 --> 02:24:42,720
It's lip synced. It's garbage.

2470
02:24:42,810 --> 02:24:44,970
Adam Curry: I like the
television production of the

2471
02:24:44,970 --> 02:24:49,110
Superbowl itself. I like the how
the game is done. I like the

2472
02:24:49,110 --> 02:24:52,260
technical events they put in
there like the camera shots they

2473
02:24:52,260 --> 02:24:57,540
do. I'm always very it's really
a the pinnacle of television.

2474
02:24:58,050 --> 02:24:58,470
Well, I'll

2475
02:24:58,470 --> 02:25:00,210
John C Dvorak: tell you the
pinnacle of television for me

2476
02:25:00,210 --> 02:25:05,610
recently, and I have to do this,
Sir, the thing you be ever

2477
02:25:05,610 --> 02:25:08,850
interested in even watching, but
I caught most of it or not most

2478
02:25:08,850 --> 02:25:12,150
of it a lot of it. Yeah. And it
was called the NFL honors

2479
02:25:12,150 --> 02:25:12,780
awards.

2480
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:16,230
Adam Curry: Oh, you're right. I
would not watch that. No. It

2481
02:25:16,230 --> 02:25:21,150
John C Dvorak: was so
unbelievably produced. It looks

2482
02:25:21,150 --> 02:25:26,190
like I'd say if you were in the
year 2500. And you were watching

2483
02:25:26,190 --> 02:25:30,120
TV, this is what it would look
like, Oh, now I have to go back

2484
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:33,870
and look at it. You can find it.
I mean, it was spectacular. And

2485
02:25:33,870 --> 02:25:37,380
if it doesn't win some sort of
an award, it won't buy the Emmys

2486
02:25:37,380 --> 02:25:42,900
or somebody's an Emmy show. So I
mean, it's an Emmys category. I

2487
02:25:42,900 --> 02:25:45,510
don't know what they're
thinking. It was just amazing.

2488
02:25:45,510 --> 02:25:49,020
was so well done. I mean, it's
just I've never seen anything as

2489
02:25:49,020 --> 02:25:49,470
good.

2490
02:25:49,830 --> 02:25:52,980
Adam Curry: Are people still
yakking about the Superbowl

2491
02:25:52,980 --> 02:25:55,590
commercials? They show them all
ahead of time? I haven't looked

2492
02:25:55,590 --> 02:25:56,130
at anything.

2493
02:25:56,160 --> 02:25:59,130
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Not as much
as they did. 10 years ago.

2494
02:25:59,160 --> 02:26:01,470
Adam Curry: Any what's Bud Light
doing bud? Lights got to do some

2495
02:26:01,470 --> 02:26:02,610
big. Okay, they

2496
02:26:02,610 --> 02:26:04,770
John C Dvorak: got a couple of
humorous commercials. They're

2497
02:26:04,770 --> 02:26:05,310
going back to

2498
02:26:05,310 --> 02:26:09,930
Adam Curry: humor. Yeah, they do
some self deprecating humor. And

2499
02:26:10,260 --> 02:26:12,510
they're smart. If they're smart.
Well, they're

2500
02:26:12,540 --> 02:26:15,420
John C Dvorak: not that smart.
And then there was an American

2501
02:26:15,420 --> 02:26:19,080
brand. Oh, these poor American
brands being no no, no, no, I

2502
02:26:19,080 --> 02:26:20,400
had a bunch of Belgium. No,

2503
02:26:20,400 --> 02:26:23,310
Adam Curry: that's what Trump is
saying. Trump is saying don't go

2504
02:26:23,310 --> 02:26:28,560
too hard on Anheuser Busch
because farmers you're not

2505
02:26:28,560 --> 02:26:33,660
seeing this. No. Yeah, he posted
that to Anheuser Busch uses a

2506
02:26:33,660 --> 02:26:40,290
lot of extra is interesting. I
think it's a lot of barley or

2507
02:26:40,290 --> 02:26:43,710
hops. I think Anheuser isn't
Budweiser made from rice?

2508
02:26:44,850 --> 02:26:47,280
John C Dvorak: I think it's
rice. And I think it's rice

2509
02:26:47,280 --> 02:26:49,830
barley. Well hops for sure. You
have to ya gotta

2510
02:26:49,830 --> 02:26:54,270
Adam Curry: have hops. Oh, yeah.
No, he was like, Whoa, don't be

2511
02:26:54,270 --> 02:26:57,090
so harsh on Bud Light. You are

2512
02:26:58,080 --> 02:27:00,300
John C Dvorak: using a lot of
local products, but it's still a

2513
02:27:00,300 --> 02:27:02,130
Belgian company. Yes.

2514
02:27:03,180 --> 02:27:06,060
Adam Curry: Well, he wasn't
toting the American nature of

2515
02:27:06,060 --> 02:27:09,510
the business. He was touting the
American farmers that produce a

2516
02:27:09,510 --> 02:27:12,570
lot of barley for the beer. That
was that's what he was saying.

2517
02:27:13,620 --> 02:27:17,460
So Alright, anyway, trolls thank
you for being here. We

2518
02:27:17,460 --> 02:27:21,210
appreciate you all 2000 of you.
It's it's a delight. It's it

2519
02:27:21,210 --> 02:27:24,870
truly is fun to see everyone
trolling away in our troll room,

2520
02:27:24,870 --> 02:27:29,100
which you can find a troll
room.io You can also get this

2521
02:27:29,130 --> 02:27:32,640
podcast along with the Joe Rogan
show on a modern podcast app.

2522
02:27:32,670 --> 02:27:36,390
Why? Why would you want
something from old fashioned

2523
02:27:36,390 --> 02:27:40,740
legacy legacy meat legacy media
companies who are probably

2524
02:27:40,740 --> 02:27:44,010
tracking you know, not probably
they are tracking you. There's

2525
02:27:44,010 --> 02:27:48,390
no tracking with this. Go to
podcast apps.com Grab a good

2526
02:27:48,420 --> 02:27:56,370
new, fresh, open source app. We
are based on value for value.

2527
02:27:57,030 --> 02:28:00,270
And boy does that make a
difference? No. $7 million ads

2528
02:28:00,270 --> 02:28:03,630
here. Ah, no Taylor Swift here
except for the occasional

2529
02:28:03,630 --> 02:28:06,690
cutaway. We got to cut away from
time to time but that's about

2530
02:28:06,690 --> 02:28:10,950
it. No, all we do is we just
tried to bring you the top notch

2531
02:28:10,980 --> 02:28:13,740
entertainment that we can
deliver. We deliver it to you

2532
02:28:13,740 --> 02:28:17,520
twice a week over three hours
each time there's no gimmicks no

2533
02:28:17,520 --> 02:28:21,600
tricks, no levels, no
subscriptions, no ads, no creepy

2534
02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:25,170
corporate money. No just pure
value if you get that value and

2535
02:28:25,170 --> 02:28:28,260
by the way, that donation
segment is always good value

2536
02:28:28,260 --> 02:28:31,050
people miss out on that often.
They miss out on a lot of good

2537
02:28:31,050 --> 02:28:32,100
content. But yeah, it's

2538
02:28:32,100 --> 02:28:34,770
John C Dvorak: reminds me I had
to add my value a commentary

2539
02:28:34,770 --> 02:28:37,650
today because I finally got a
hold of the board dose superior

2540
02:28:37,650 --> 02:28:39,600
2021 Ah, yes,

2541
02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:41,880
Adam Curry: this is your value
for value commentary. This is a

2542
02:28:41,880 --> 02:28:43,740
wine tip from JCD.

2543
02:28:45,420 --> 02:28:49,680
John C Dvorak: So this wine
comes out. People have just been

2544
02:28:49,680 --> 02:28:52,890
out for a few months, but it
finally came into my Costco. And

2545
02:28:52,890 --> 02:28:55,530
I was you know, Pooh poohing the
idea of this is going to be any

2546
02:28:55,530 --> 02:28:58,140
good because 2020 was not a
great year in Bordeaux, but I

2547
02:28:58,140 --> 02:29:00,990
think they did a selection which
is a term they use in the

2548
02:29:00,990 --> 02:29:04,530
business for you know, being
very careful with grapes you use

2549
02:29:04,530 --> 02:29:08,670
to try to make a good wine from
a mediocre vintage. And, you

2550
02:29:08,670 --> 02:29:11,340
know, it's not as bad as I
thought it would be. I don't

2551
02:29:11,340 --> 02:29:14,370
think I'm gonna get a case of
it. But I can't say that is

2552
02:29:14,370 --> 02:29:15,120
terrible.

2553
02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:19,830
Adam Curry: Okay, what's the
price? 798

2554
02:29:19,950 --> 02:29:23,070
good price. I was talking to
someone just about this the

2555
02:29:23,070 --> 02:29:26,190
other day. They mentioned that.
Hey, you guys always have the

2556
02:29:26,190 --> 02:29:30,780
Costco tips. Yes, right. Usually
my you must be a donation

2557
02:29:30,780 --> 02:29:36,330
segment listener. Why yes, I am.
He said, No. That's value.

2558
02:29:36,390 --> 02:29:39,930
John C Dvorak: That's value
Ordos. Superiore 2021 Check it

2559
02:29:39,930 --> 02:29:43,770
out. It is a little light in the
mid palate, but except for that

2560
02:29:43,890 --> 02:29:44,760
it's drinkable.

2561
02:29:45,690 --> 02:29:48,900
Adam Curry: For all you mid
palate drinkers out there, be

2562
02:29:48,900 --> 02:29:53,220
warned. So there's many ways you
can give value back time,

2563
02:29:53,220 --> 02:29:55,650
talent, treasure, you can do
things for the show. You can

2564
02:29:55,650 --> 02:30:00,660
promote the show you can I mean,
we have people to We're running

2565
02:30:00,660 --> 02:30:03,930
servers for the show all kinds
of things. Doing meetups,

2566
02:30:03,930 --> 02:30:08,910
arranging meetups. Our artists
are the ones who really go all

2567
02:30:08,910 --> 02:30:12,420
out during the show they listen
live, create artwork right after

2568
02:30:12,420 --> 02:30:14,970
we're done right after we closed
down the show, we immediately

2569
02:30:14,970 --> 02:30:18,060
start doing credits and look for
a piece of art. And we want to

2570
02:30:18,060 --> 02:30:22,860
thank you areas comics or
Blogger. If you persevere

2571
02:30:22,890 --> 02:30:26,880
eventually, eventually you'll
get there and he brought us the

2572
02:30:26,880 --> 02:30:31,920
artwork for episode 1632 titles
king for a day, and he had there

2573
02:30:31,920 --> 02:30:35,850
were some commentary on the dog
but we liked the Pomeranian and

2574
02:30:35,880 --> 02:30:39,600
he had the simple Don't eat me
Obama, right since we know that

2575
02:30:39,600 --> 02:30:44,100
Obama ate dogs as a kid. Little
known fact except here on the

2576
02:30:44,100 --> 02:30:47,490
best podcast in the universe,
and it truly was the best piece

2577
02:30:48,090 --> 02:30:52,530
I'm gonna take a look and see
what what we have what choices

2578
02:30:52,530 --> 02:30:54,660
we had you have the Art
Generator up as well. Let's take

2579
02:30:54,660 --> 02:30:58,560
a look. Thank you, Sir Paul
couture for the Archon right

2580
02:30:58,560 --> 02:31:02,820
another great piece of value for
value. And it was no GI Joe. But

2581
02:31:02,820 --> 02:31:05,700
it was it made us laugh. I mean,
we both just laugh we couldn't

2582
02:31:05,700 --> 02:31:07,320
help but laugh look at a piece

2583
02:31:07,320 --> 02:31:09,180
John C Dvorak: there's a cute
piece he's what else was up

2584
02:31:09,180 --> 02:31:10,650
there? There's nothing

2585
02:31:12,180 --> 02:31:18,990
Adam Curry: but we had the SEAL
Team 33 Universal Music Group

2586
02:31:18,990 --> 02:31:21,900
behind the gate now citizen
Trump a lot of shoes

2587
02:31:21,900 --> 02:31:25,440
John C Dvorak: jokes. A lot of
seven piece pizzas. Yeah, yeah,

2588
02:31:25,470 --> 02:31:25,740
we

2589
02:31:25,770 --> 02:31:28,590
Adam Curry: wish we'd looked at
and it wasn't the pieces weren't

2590
02:31:28,590 --> 02:31:31,800
good. It's just if you were
there was really no joke there.

2591
02:31:32,790 --> 02:31:37,590
You know, Putin and Tucker
eating pizza a lot of know

2592
02:31:37,590 --> 02:31:40,800
Spotify, why we even show their
logo

2593
02:31:41,940 --> 02:31:43,740
John C Dvorak: isn't happening
now. No,

2594
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:47,910
Adam Curry: it comics are
blocked. A Taylor Swift peaks,

2595
02:31:47,910 --> 02:31:50,970
we're not going to put Taylor
Swift on her honor album, Mart.

2596
02:31:50,970 --> 02:31:52,230
That's just not going to happen.

2597
02:31:53,370 --> 02:31:56,610
John C Dvorak: For more than one
reason. Why don't you name them?

2598
02:31:57,180 --> 02:32:00,540
Well, the main reason is you
can't use celebrity pictures to

2599
02:32:00,540 --> 02:32:03,270
advertise a product that you're
doing no matter what you think.

2600
02:32:03,270 --> 02:32:06,720
And you can't. And it doesn't
and all that fair use rules

2601
02:32:06,720 --> 02:32:10,050
don't necessarily apply. You
just can't do it. Right.

2602
02:32:11,490 --> 02:32:13,530
Adam Curry: So people are
already putting Taylor Swift out

2603
02:32:13,530 --> 02:32:16,110
there for this show. It's not
gonna happen. It's just not

2604
02:32:16,110 --> 02:32:18,660
gonna happen. Thank you very
much comics for Blogger. We

2605
02:32:18,660 --> 02:32:23,880
appreciate all of our artists
who do this work. It's not easy

2606
02:32:23,880 --> 02:32:27,060
it's a it's often thankless
because you know, you we can

2607
02:32:27,060 --> 02:32:31,110
only pick one and we do pick
one. So the next best thing is

2608
02:32:31,110 --> 02:32:34,770
to provide honest feedback which
we find to be constructive for

2609
02:32:34,770 --> 02:32:38,280
artists because this is the
drill you go through when you're

2610
02:32:38,280 --> 02:32:42,360
when you're trying to create art
for for clients. And most of

2611
02:32:42,360 --> 02:32:44,220
them will just won't even call
you back. Yeah, thanks for your

2612
02:32:44,220 --> 02:32:47,370
submission. Well, you know,
don't call us we'll call you. At

2613
02:32:47,370 --> 02:32:52,020
least we call you back and let
you know, we thought Now, let us

2614
02:32:52,020 --> 02:32:55,710
thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers

2615
02:32:55,710 --> 02:33:02,040
for episode 1633. We kick it off
with Anonymous from China main.

2616
02:33:02,760 --> 02:33:06,630
Is there such a place? China may

2617
02:33:07,920 --> 02:33:09,270
John C Dvorak: but it says I
mean,

2618
02:33:09,270 --> 02:33:11,460
Adam Curry: this is this is
interesting. I had no idea that

2619
02:33:11,460 --> 02:33:16,320
there was a China in Maine, but
I guess it's true. And anonymous

2620
02:33:16,320 --> 02:33:20,670
from Central Maine. Hey guys,
first Can I request a D

2621
02:33:20,670 --> 02:33:26,610
douching? Yes, of course you can
request a douche D deuced. I

2622
02:33:26,610 --> 02:33:29,790
heard about no agenda through
the grind America podcast

2623
02:33:29,820 --> 02:33:33,000
primerica donation and it'd
become a steady listener over

2624
02:33:33,000 --> 02:33:36,540
the last few years. You've
brought value to me and even my

2625
02:33:36,540 --> 02:33:40,950
non podcast listening wife.
Bitcoin was up today. I figured

2626
02:33:40,950 --> 02:33:44,220
it was time to return some value
to you on Bitcoin donation.

2627
02:33:44,700 --> 02:33:47,940
John C Dvorak: A Bitcoin
donation of $1,000

2628
02:33:48,210 --> 02:33:51,060
Adam Curry: Can you please
Knight me sir King mud of the

2629
02:33:51,060 --> 02:33:56,640
Kenny back sir King mud of the
ken e Beck standard fare the

2630
02:33:56,640 --> 02:33:59,970
roundtable will do you got it
that will be mutton and meat of

2631
02:33:59,970 --> 02:34:04,290
course. Can I get an F cancer
rev owl respect song and some

2632
02:34:04,290 --> 02:34:11,400
goat? Yeah of course DSP ICT

2633
02:34:22,050 --> 02:34:25,740
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, another
anonymous donor here from town

2634
02:34:25,740 --> 02:34:29,160
in New York. I never heard of
that he says is pronounced belly

2635
02:34:29,160 --> 02:34:42,090
Shah 375 343 75 And he says it
was originally be a tje and is a

2636
02:34:42,090 --> 02:34:47,160
small blue collar village in the
Hudson Valley near Kinderhook.

2637
02:34:47,520 --> 02:34:51,360
Bulla one of John's favorite
presidents Martin Van Buren

2638
02:34:51,810 --> 02:34:52,830
Adam Curry: didn't you get shot?

2639
02:34:53,790 --> 02:34:56,340
John C Dvorak: No, no, no it was
the other guy was shot corn Van

2640
02:34:56,340 --> 02:35:00,000
Buren a very corrupt guy. I had
a one of the at the media we had

2641
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:02,880
If some guy comes up to me, he
says what do you what do you got

2642
02:35:02,880 --> 02:35:07,440
against Martin Van Buren?
District teacher? No jingles or

2643
02:35:07,440 --> 02:35:10,500
comma boom, go. J

2644
02:35:11,010 --> 02:35:16,740
Adam Curry: McGilvery is in
Nashua, New Hampshire 333 dot 33

2645
02:35:16,740 --> 02:35:18,870
We'd love that number have been
a little while since my last

2646
02:35:18,870 --> 02:35:21,630
donation keeping the value for
value going for the best show

2647
02:35:21,630 --> 02:35:25,650
there is Keep up the great work.
Jay McGilvery Thank you Jay.

2648
02:35:26,790 --> 02:35:33,060
John C Dvorak: Stacy. Strean
stream in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin

2649
02:35:33,060 --> 02:35:38,220
33333 And this is switcher row.
Thank you my smokin hot husband

2650
02:35:38,220 --> 02:35:41,460
Seth, who celebrates another
trip around the sun on February

2651
02:35:41,460 --> 02:35:44,820
13 Never thought I'd say this
but thanks for hitting me in the

2652
02:35:44,820 --> 02:35:50,820
mouth honey. Grateful for all
you guys do AC JCD lovers lit

2653
02:35:50,820 --> 02:35:58,470
stay see mudstones was referred
reference I think only the two

2654
02:35:58,470 --> 02:35:59,730
of them get least

2655
02:35:59,730 --> 02:36:02,700
Adam Curry: they do alright.
Switcheroo implemented Brandon G

2656
02:36:02,700 --> 02:36:06,810
and Brambleton Virginia 333 33
Hey John and Adam in the morning

2657
02:36:06,840 --> 02:36:09,930
I hope this message finds you
will it does. I'm a dude named

2658
02:36:09,960 --> 02:36:14,280
Brandon here born and raised in
the DC metro area. I'll be long

2659
02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:16,920
overdue The day has finally come
for me to humbly requested de

2660
02:36:16,920 --> 02:36:23,370
doop de doop does this as he
begins his journey towards his

2661
02:36:23,370 --> 02:36:26,010
seat at the roundtable. I have
not missed the show since my

2662
02:36:26,010 --> 02:36:28,950
longtime friend and colleague
Ray hit me in the mouth at the

2663
02:36:28,950 --> 02:36:32,400
start of COVID Mania. You're
witty and insightful commentary

2664
02:36:32,400 --> 02:36:35,430
had been crucial components and
the ongoing effort to shrink my

2665
02:36:35,430 --> 02:36:39,330
pesky amygdala Can I get some
anarchy goat karma a Boogity

2666
02:36:39,330 --> 02:36:43,050
boogity boogity Amen. Lastly, we
might have a couple of birthday

2667
02:36:43,050 --> 02:36:46,440
biscuits. I am completing my
43rd trip around the sun

2668
02:36:46,440 --> 02:36:49,590
tomorrow always give me a
biscuit on my birthday and my

2669
02:36:49,590 --> 02:36:53,640
buddy Ray also got older on the
night they always give me my

2670
02:36:53,640 --> 02:36:56,700
birthday appreciate it comrades
thank you for your courage and

2671
02:36:56,700 --> 02:37:00,720
may you never devise an exit
strategy dude named Brandon g of

2672
02:37:00,720 --> 02:37:02,220
FEMA Region number three.

2673
02:37:14,130 --> 02:37:20,580
John C Dvorak: You've got your
word Owens in Alameda,

2674
02:37:20,580 --> 02:37:26,970
California comes in at 3.33
Attach Newt. Edward Owens, owner

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of speed pro East Bay, your
office graphic specialist. We do

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wall murals, grays lettering,
logos, artwork and all kinds of

2677
02:37:36,810 --> 02:37:41,370
signage. And this month we're
offering 10% up to $1,000 of

2678
02:37:41,370 --> 02:37:46,290
your project back to the show as
a donation in your name. This is

2679
02:37:46,290 --> 02:37:49,530
good anywhere in the San
Francisco Bay Area. Go to speed

2680
02:37:49,530 --> 02:37:54,390
pro East bay.com or click and
click office designed. Just to

2681
02:37:54,390 --> 02:37:57,480
be clear, this is not a discount
against your project. This is a

2682
02:37:57,480 --> 02:38:02,160
donation of my money. No 10% of
your project to $1,000 to the

2683
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:04,140
show in your name. Oh, that's

2684
02:38:04,140 --> 02:38:08,310
Adam Curry: nice. Thank you.
Yeah. Let's meet up. Good

2685
02:38:08,310 --> 02:38:15,000
promotion. Shawn McCraw awesome.
tiga K South Carolina 333. And

2686
02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:17,340
this he says gets me to
knighthood. I wish to be

2687
02:38:17,340 --> 02:38:19,980
knighted as syrup on the high
ground mutton and meat sounds

2688
02:38:19,980 --> 02:38:23,640
interesting. Okay, I'll partake
you got it. In honor of the

2689
02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:26,850
ongoing illegal wars please get
me some rubber lizer and thanks

2690
02:38:26,850 --> 02:38:29,040
for all the work you do in the

2691
02:38:31,230 --> 02:38:37,800
Unknown: standby 333 33 or
otherwise are out.

2692
02:38:43,110 --> 02:38:49,080
John C Dvorak: Jim Cushman in
Durango, Iowa. As to 3399 which

2693
02:38:49,080 --> 02:38:53,400
is the first Executive Associate
Executive switcheroo for the ELI

2694
02:38:53,400 --> 02:38:57,990
the coffee guy got to be a night
by now my keeper is a coffee

2695
02:38:57,990 --> 02:39:02,610
snob and loves the single source
organic ditch the black rifle.

2696
02:39:02,760 --> 02:39:06,540
John I'd love to send some wine
from my family winery so we'd

2697
02:39:06,540 --> 02:39:08,370
get some honest criticism.

2698
02:39:09,570 --> 02:39:12,240
Adam Curry: I got Hey, I got a
new love is loving. He

2699
02:39:12,240 --> 02:39:13,230
John C Dvorak: says I got a note

2700
02:39:13,230 --> 02:39:17,610
Adam Curry: from someone from
soc. The more I know Devorah is

2701
02:39:17,610 --> 02:39:21,780
a buzzkill. I always thought the
P Berry was the veal of coffee

2702
02:39:21,780 --> 02:39:25,890
not the Oompa Loompa What a
bummer. There better be a good

2703
02:39:25,890 --> 02:39:29,070
news segment to offset the fact
that I liked special brews.

2704
02:39:29,550 --> 02:39:32,130
Yeah, this was about the P but
the P berry brew that you were

2705
02:39:32,130 --> 02:39:33,300
talking about. Yeah.

2706
02:39:34,050 --> 02:39:35,310
John C Dvorak: I know what he's
talking about.

2707
02:39:35,670 --> 02:39:36,060
Adam Curry: He's

2708
02:39:37,290 --> 02:39:40,800
John C Dvorak: considered a high
end specialty nowadays.

2709
02:39:40,830 --> 02:39:42,780
Adam Curry: He says it's the
veal. I don't know what that

2710
02:39:42,780 --> 02:39:45,210
means. But that is passing on
No, maybe yeah,

2711
02:39:45,240 --> 02:39:47,160
John C Dvorak: veal because it's
a baby cow. You're killing your

2712
02:39:47,160 --> 02:39:49,290
little animal. And this is a
baby bean.

2713
02:39:50,790 --> 02:39:53,160
Adam Curry: And there he is Eli
the coffee guy while he gets two

2714
02:39:53,160 --> 02:39:58,770
credits Ben Bensenville
Illinois. To 1133 Oh, this is a

2715
02:39:58,770 --> 02:40:02,430
switcheroo. Oh Oh, I see what
you're doing. This is a

2716
02:40:02,430 --> 02:40:04,800
switcheroo. According to my
accounting should be eligible

2717
02:40:04,800 --> 02:40:07,830
for knighthood however, I would
not feel right to be seated at

2718
02:40:07,830 --> 02:40:10,410
the round table without my
better half Jennifer sitting

2719
02:40:10,410 --> 02:40:14,850
next to me. So I would like this
donation to go towards her Dame

2720
02:40:14,850 --> 02:40:19,590
hood. Oh man, hold on a second.
So switch a roo switch. This is

2721
02:40:19,590 --> 02:40:23,730
for Jennifer. But what do we
call it Jennifer? The Jennifer

2722
02:40:23,730 --> 02:40:24,690
the coffee lady.

2723
02:40:26,070 --> 02:40:27,960
John C Dvorak: Whatever you want
to call her I mean it's a

2724
02:40:27,960 --> 02:40:29,700
switcheroo. I will call her
Johnson.

2725
02:40:31,140 --> 02:40:34,770
Adam Curry: Happy Valentine's my
love. He says you are an amazing

2726
02:40:34,770 --> 02:40:38,610
wife, business partner mother to
our human resources and smokin

2727
02:40:38,610 --> 02:40:42,060
hot milk. I'm so grateful to be
able to share my life with you

2728
02:40:42,060 --> 02:40:45,600
he wants to boogie boogie lovers
let Eli the coffee guy ITM 20

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02:40:45,600 --> 02:40:49,080
for 20% off orders at gigawatt
coffee roasters.com

2730
02:40:56,820 --> 02:40:59,310
these are this is like
Valentine's Day stuff man. This

2731
02:40:59,310 --> 02:41:00,330
is great. That's coming

2732
02:41:00,330 --> 02:41:02,640
John C Dvorak: up Valentine's
Day is coming up Dame wise

2733
02:41:02,640 --> 02:41:07,680
wizard would know that she's in
Tan Valley Arizona $200 Dame

2734
02:41:07,680 --> 02:41:11,370
wise wizard here please.
Switcheroo this EP credit as a

2735
02:41:11,370 --> 02:41:15,420
gift to my husband Sir Charles
to read. Another switcheroo

2736
02:41:15,450 --> 02:41:18,780
Chuck Jennings in honor of his
birthday on February 10 is on

2737
02:41:18,780 --> 02:41:20,430
the list. Beautiful. I

2738
02:41:20,430 --> 02:41:22,170
Adam Curry: think you should do
this last one. Yeah, I

2739
02:41:22,170 --> 02:41:24,000
John C Dvorak: guess so. It's an
interlude pack in in Lakewood,

2740
02:41:24,000 --> 02:41:27,180
Colorado. $200 This looks a
little longer than normal. Yes,

2741
02:41:27,210 --> 02:41:30,510
as you pointed out, it's time I
embrace my parish priests but

2742
02:41:30,510 --> 02:41:35,280
please bestow upon me the title
Linda Lou patcon Duchess of jobs

2743
02:41:35,520 --> 02:41:41,220
and writer of resumes. With your
permission I would like to rule

2744
02:41:41,220 --> 02:41:44,310
the territory of Green Mountain
and all the mountain biking and

2745
02:41:44,310 --> 02:41:48,480
hiking trails they're on at the
roundtable I'd like a ribeye and

2746
02:41:48,480 --> 02:41:53,910
fresh grapefruit margaritas
sounds good just thanks for

2747
02:41:53,910 --> 02:41:56,580
creating such a great community
for keeping us relatively sane I

2748
02:41:56,580 --> 02:41:59,700
love meeting and helping my
fellow no agenda producers and

2749
02:41:59,700 --> 02:42:02,940
now this for resume that gets
results go to Image makers

2750
02:42:02,940 --> 02:42:07,470
inc.com with a K or find me on
the producers list love you guys

2751
02:42:07,530 --> 02:42:09,480
jobs, karma police jobs,

2752
02:42:09,630 --> 02:42:13,860
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

2753
02:42:17,160 --> 02:42:19,230
Adam Curry: Well, that concludes
our executive and Associate

2754
02:42:19,230 --> 02:42:23,040
Executive producers for episode
1632. Of course we love every

2755
02:42:23,040 --> 02:42:26,340
bit of value people send back.
We've got someone I think is on

2756
02:42:26,340 --> 02:42:31,110
the birthday list who just
started a $4 sustaining donation

2757
02:42:31,110 --> 02:42:34,410
we love all of it. And of
course, the whole idea is to

2758
02:42:34,440 --> 02:42:38,310
just decide what is it worth to
you? For some people $4 is a lot

2759
02:42:38,310 --> 02:42:41,640
of money for some $1,000 is not
a lot of money somehow it all

2760
02:42:41,640 --> 02:42:44,460
works out in the Washington here
we are 16 years later, we're

2761
02:42:44,460 --> 02:42:47,790
still able to keep it going make
sure you keep it going by going

2762
02:42:47,790 --> 02:42:52,020
to no agenda donations.com We
have some gaming's knighting

2763
02:42:52,020 --> 02:42:54,630
some meet up reports and John
will take us through to the 50s

2764
02:42:54,630 --> 02:42:59,850
right now with name and amounts
and any special note if if it is

2765
02:42:59,850 --> 02:43:01,470
of note. Yeah.

2766
02:43:01,470 --> 02:43:03,510
John C Dvorak: David Foucault's
Zota starts us off. He's the

2767
02:43:03,510 --> 02:43:08,400
Duke of America's Heartland.
Sure. That's stone Missouri. And

2768
02:43:08,400 --> 02:43:13,710
he came in 163 33 for 1633 Show
number oh, boy Pacifica,

2769
02:43:13,710 --> 02:43:17,130
California went through three
dots three, three, Thomas, bear,

2770
02:43:17,220 --> 02:43:26,550
Byard Byard in Tilburg and
Netherlands. One One Benjamin

2771
02:43:26,580 --> 02:43:34,920
moon in the slopes New South
Wales 105 35 Sir Hulst in blaze

2772
02:43:34,920 --> 02:43:42,780
Wyke Very good. Netherland,
Netherlands 100 Katie dem in

2773
02:43:42,810 --> 02:43:48,120
Lancaster, Pennsylvania 100
Kevin Brown in Kettering, Ohio

2774
02:43:48,120 --> 02:43:52,560
100 He's got a peerage note what
you get

2775
02:43:52,860 --> 02:43:56,430
Adam Curry: with this? Excuse
me? There we go. With this

2776
02:43:56,430 --> 02:43:58,890
donation combined with my
monthly donations and original

2777
02:43:58,890 --> 02:44:02,220
donation I become a night I want
to shout out to my wife and her

2778
02:44:02,220 --> 02:44:05,010
twin sisters. They've been
together here in southwest Ohio

2779
02:44:05,010 --> 02:44:08,040
for the birthday how nice
between them. They suffer breast

2780
02:44:08,040 --> 02:44:12,900
cancer Fibromyalgia myalgia and
half a medical journal of

2781
02:44:12,900 --> 02:44:16,890
ailments Whoa, but rarely
complain and in our joy to all

2782
02:44:16,890 --> 02:44:20,580
please nightmares sir
repetitiously I am a soon

2783
02:44:20,580 --> 02:44:24,300
retiring UPS driver and ask for
F cancer we'll do that the end I

2784
02:44:24,300 --> 02:44:28,380
love my truck and what I do just
enjoying an IPA and the company

2785
02:44:28,380 --> 02:44:31,140
of the other nights of the
roundtable will be fine. I think

2786
02:44:31,140 --> 02:44:32,550
you need to roll out your

2787
02:44:32,970 --> 02:44:38,250
John C Dvorak: I love my truck
and I love what Kevin McLaughlin

2788
02:44:38,250 --> 02:44:41,880
is up from Concord North
Carolina that lover of American

2789
02:44:41,880 --> 02:44:47,550
boobs, Archduke of Luna 808 I
love sweater pup says Dennis

2790
02:44:47,640 --> 02:44:56,910
Eubanks in Canton, Ohio 808
Nisa, D douching. De duced Karen

2791
02:44:56,940 --> 02:45:01,650
Bauer in Vancouver, Washington
is 661 On one Well Adam despite

2792
02:45:01,650 --> 02:45:05,160
your initial dismissal, I would
say this is becoming a thing.

2793
02:45:05,790 --> 02:45:11,880
dangly balls and two dicks 611
And we're happy to do something

2794
02:45:11,880 --> 02:45:15,870
with her anyway. Yeah, this is
Aubrey Barnes in Ogden, Utah

2795
02:45:15,870 --> 02:45:28,320
6331. Sir Don in Chandler
Arizona 606. Did bad go back to

2796
02:45:28,320 --> 02:45:33,870
Aubree she's starving to death
and she needs to go to colon

2797
02:45:33,870 --> 02:45:35,880
cancer. And once people

2798
02:45:36,690 --> 02:45:38,370
Adam Curry: she says had had so

2799
02:45:38,370 --> 02:45:40,710
John C Dvorak: that's good. He
had okay when she's when she was

2800
02:45:40,710 --> 02:45:44,550
offered a lot of debt. Yeah. Go
Fund Me and look for Aubrey

2801
02:45:44,550 --> 02:45:50,370
Barnes. You can find it a BB F
nine c d 6/3. Dawn and Chandler

2802
02:45:50,370 --> 02:45:58,530
Arizona. 606 Michael Vivi airs
in San Bora Bora. Sand Borton.

2803
02:45:59,040 --> 02:46:01,560
New Hampshire. 5833

2804
02:46:01,590 --> 02:46:03,630
Adam Curry: sandboarding I
guess. And

2805
02:46:03,660 --> 02:46:08,670
John C Dvorak: Morton Franklin.
monta Rosen Dodge City, Kansas

2806
02:46:08,670 --> 02:46:15,480
58 Mica rock and roll in Mohegan
New York 57

2807
02:46:15,510 --> 02:46:19,440
Adam Curry: Apparently there's
no agenda influence comic book

2808
02:46:19,440 --> 02:46:21,330
at orange flavor dot fun.

2809
02:46:24,660 --> 02:46:29,520
John C Dvorak: Sir tooth fairy
in Valparaiso, Indiana 5510 de

2810
02:46:29,520 --> 02:46:37,350
Vide in coming ga 5510. Gordon
Walton in Austin, Texas City 377

2811
02:46:37,350 --> 02:46:41,490
Chet St. Clair in Los Altos
sauce or Gordon

2812
02:46:41,490 --> 02:46:45,390
Adam Curry: is a he's think he's
got to be close to a Duke by now

2813
02:46:45,390 --> 02:46:47,850
if he hasn't already. His whole
family donates for everybody.

2814
02:46:47,850 --> 02:46:50,460
Thank you sir Gordon. 5272

2815
02:46:50,460 --> 02:46:57,030
John C Dvorak: from Chet gene
Snyder 5271 Travis and Parts

2816
02:46:57,030 --> 02:47:06,510
Unknown Travis Hawes in Enid,
Oklahoma. 5153 Bad idea supply

2817
02:47:06,540 --> 02:47:10,050
parts a nah, there's no city
here Bad Idea supply. Where are

2818
02:47:10,050 --> 02:47:15,090
you? So if you have a bad idea,
go there. William Spain in

2819
02:47:15,090 --> 02:47:22,050
spring Dale, Arkansas 50 Louis
Hollingworth in Medford, Oregon

2820
02:47:22,050 --> 02:47:25,020
50. Oh, these are all 50s I just
do name and location natty a

2821
02:47:25,020 --> 02:47:29,910
Borg and send Mark Marcos
Douglas Moog in cochranton,

2822
02:47:30,180 --> 02:47:36,630
Pennsylvania, Steven Chu mark in
Xenia, Ohio Margaretha en des

2823
02:47:36,630 --> 02:47:42,090
hood, in orange, Vale,
California. Michelle Petit in

2824
02:47:42,090 --> 02:47:46,080
Grand Forks, North Dakota, Tom
Delvecchio in Blandon,

2825
02:47:46,080 --> 02:47:50,970
Pennsylvania, John spade in
Edmond Oklahoma, Cory Cunningham

2826
02:47:51,540 --> 02:47:59,310
in Warrenton, Virginia. Andrew
Grasso in Mineola, New York, sir

2827
02:47:59,340 --> 02:48:05,310
sagacious scriptorium rent in
South Milwaukee, anything he's

2828
02:48:05,310 --> 02:48:06,450
got here? He's Yeah, he's

2829
02:48:06,450 --> 02:48:09,540
Adam Curry: he. His position was
terminated. So I'll do some jobs

2830
02:48:09,540 --> 02:48:10,860
karma for him. Of course.

2831
02:48:10,890 --> 02:48:13,410
John C Dvorak: Of course we'd
like with that right after Jared

2832
02:48:13,500 --> 02:48:19,230
Jared Gerald Gerald Preston in
Bennington, Nebraska and that's

2833
02:48:19,230 --> 02:48:23,610
our group of contributors to
show 1633 You want to thank each

2834
02:48:23,640 --> 02:48:26,550
and every one of them for making
the show a possibility. Yeah,

2835
02:48:26,550 --> 02:48:26,790
let's

2836
02:48:26,790 --> 02:48:27,660
Adam Curry: do the F camp.

2837
02:48:32,130 --> 02:48:37,590
Unknown: You've got karma and
the jobs, karma, jobs, jobs and

2838
02:48:37,590 --> 02:48:39,840
jobs for jobs.

2839
02:48:41,970 --> 02:48:45,060
Adam Curry: Thank you all very
much, especially those under $50

2840
02:48:45,060 --> 02:48:48,150
who do not get mentioned because
it's always anonymous. And for

2841
02:48:48,150 --> 02:48:50,640
those who are on those
sustaining donations, they

2842
02:48:50,640 --> 02:48:54,180
really do help a lot. You can
make one up yourself a lot of

2843
02:48:54,180 --> 02:48:57,960
people like to 3333 You can do
it weekly, monthly you can do

2844
02:48:57,960 --> 02:49:01,500
it. Anything you want to do.
It's possible we appreciate it

2845
02:49:01,500 --> 02:49:04,260
and of course we once again want
to thank our executive and

2846
02:49:04,260 --> 02:49:07,890
Associate Executive producers
for episode 1633

2847
02:49:08,160 --> 02:49:12,870
Unknown: Our formula is this we
go out yet people in the mouth

2848
02:49:32,640 --> 02:49:35,370
Adam Curry: we do have a list
Brandon G wishes reindeer Happy

2849
02:49:35,370 --> 02:49:38,580
Birthday celebrated on the nine
theme wise wizard which is your

2850
02:49:38,580 --> 02:49:41,340
husband's church Charles the red
Chuck Jennings a happy one.

2851
02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:44,670
Celebrate yesterday Jamie
Grayson is happy birthday it was

2852
02:49:44,670 --> 02:49:50,130
smokin hot wife Tara great turns
52 Tomorrow, Brandon G turns 43

2853
02:49:50,130 --> 02:49:54,780
Tomorrow Dame Courtney Chicago
cakes are spooky and Bs all wish

2854
02:49:54,780 --> 02:49:58,740
Scarlet BIA happy birthday for
the 13th Stacey stream says

2855
02:49:58,740 --> 02:50:01,980
Happy Birthday the husband said
As on the 13th Luke brown wishes

2856
02:50:01,980 --> 02:50:05,160
wife a happy birthday she's
turning 40 and Kevin Brown says

2857
02:50:05,160 --> 02:50:08,610
Happy Birthday to his wife and
her twin sister. Both of them

2858
02:50:08,640 --> 02:50:11,070
going through some struggles we
pray for you and happy birthday

2859
02:50:11,070 --> 02:50:16,470
for everybody here the best
podcast in the universe. And we

2860
02:50:16,470 --> 02:50:19,230
have a night and we have three
dame's so and of course this

2861
02:50:19,230 --> 02:50:22,440
includes Linda was Hopkins so
bring out your your resume

2862
02:50:22,440 --> 02:50:26,880
resume sword there we go. Linda
on the back and hop on up here

2863
02:50:26,880 --> 02:50:29,790
at the podium along with
Anonymous Central Maine Sean

2864
02:50:29,790 --> 02:50:33,660
Macross and Kevin Brown all of
you as for the no agenda show in

2865
02:50:33,660 --> 02:50:36,360
the amount of $1,000 or more and
therefore I'm very proud to

2866
02:50:36,360 --> 02:50:40,590
pronounce the k d as Linden pack
and justice of jobs and writer

2867
02:50:40,590 --> 02:50:43,710
of resumes ruler of territory of
Green Mountain know the mountain

2868
02:50:43,710 --> 02:50:47,610
biking and hiking trails there
on Sir King mud of the Kenny

2869
02:50:47,610 --> 02:50:52,530
back, sir up on the high ground
and Sir surreptitiously for you

2870
02:50:52,530 --> 02:50:56,160
we've got hookers and blow rent
boys and Chardonnay, ribeye and

2871
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fresh grapefruit margaritas and
IPA. Along with that. Rubenesque

2872
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Lumina rose, a geisha Saki bong
hits and bourbon sparkling cider

2873
02:51:03,060 --> 02:51:06,390
and escorts ginger ale and
gerbils and of course, the big

2874
02:51:06,390 --> 02:51:09,690
old mutton in me That's right
mutton to meet, it's always a

2875
02:51:09,690 --> 02:51:13,920
favorite, head over to no agenda
rings.com Take a look at those

2876
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handsome rings and send us off
your ring size along with a

2877
02:51:17,610 --> 02:51:20,520
place for us to send it to and
you'll get it along with wax to

2878
02:51:20,520 --> 02:51:22,680
seal your important
correspondence and your

2879
02:51:22,680 --> 02:51:25,560
certificate of authenticity.
Should anyone should anyone

2880
02:51:25,560 --> 02:51:28,200
disputes the authenticity of
these rings and of course you

2881
02:51:28,200 --> 02:51:31,890
want to proudly display them at
any meetups you go to no one

2882
02:51:39,510 --> 02:51:42,720
no agenda meetups. If you want
to interact with people don't do

2883
02:51:42,720 --> 02:51:47,400
it online. Seriously. Just just
close down the computer except

2884
02:51:47,430 --> 02:51:51,540
maybe go to one website no
agenda meetups.com Find your

2885
02:51:51,540 --> 02:51:55,680
community. You can't spell unity
without community or community

2886
02:51:55,680 --> 02:51:58,890
without unity connection is
protection, even for the spooks

2887
02:51:58,890 --> 02:51:59,880
in Arlington Virginia

2888
02:51:59,880 --> 02:52:02,640
Unknown: Happy Year of the
Dragon SEC girls.

2889
02:52:03,480 --> 02:52:07,440
Dragons bad soup good. This is
Round Eight for Springfield in

2890
02:52:07,440 --> 02:52:07,890
the morning.

2891
02:52:07,920 --> 02:52:11,640
Hey, this is the Brahmin here,
and I have no secret that it is

2892
02:52:11,670 --> 02:52:15,900
Team data at night at the
Chesapeake Bay connection is

2893
02:52:15,900 --> 02:52:19,740
protection daily checking in
Aaron from Alexandria Hi Eli

2894
02:52:19,800 --> 02:52:24,180
Jacob Long live freedom dammit
Hooton bad boy I didn't good Sir

2895
02:52:24,180 --> 02:52:28,620
Chris here Joe's from DC my
first meet up great time get out

2896
02:52:28,620 --> 02:52:31,230
there and go go find some find
your people.

2897
02:52:31,260 --> 02:52:34,050
Hey, this Sir William West
Pennsyltucky I don't want to

2898
02:52:34,050 --> 02:52:36,060
trigger anyone but boobs.

2899
02:52:38,520 --> 02:52:41,400
Adam Curry: Hey, John, the
Brahmins in DC I think he's a

2900
02:52:41,400 --> 02:52:48,150
spook the Brahma Sybil things
this book we got a report from

2901
02:52:48,150 --> 02:52:51,450
the you can't spell Aquarius
without AI Age of Aquarius.

2902
02:52:51,480 --> 02:52:54,570
Aquarius Read 33 Read 33 Boston
meet up

2903
02:52:54,600 --> 02:52:58,140
Unknown: in the morning. Yes, we
are coming live and direct from

2904
02:52:58,140 --> 02:53:01,020
Conrad's in Norwood the home of
Harry and the potter's wizard

2905
02:53:01,020 --> 02:53:04,020
rock and we're gonna pass the
phone around the Boston Red 33

2906
02:53:04,020 --> 02:53:07,680
Red 33 no agenda means we have a
light count with us.

2907
02:53:08,340 --> 02:53:11,340
Hey, this is Sir Charisse by
Count of Greater Boston. Mr.

2908
02:53:11,340 --> 02:53:14,550
Paul in the morning. My name is
Jennifer I have no idea who

2909
02:53:14,550 --> 02:53:16,050
these people are. Just

2910
02:53:16,050 --> 02:53:19,500
came over and sat down with us.
And this is Sir What am I

2911
02:53:19,500 --> 02:53:22,680
called? No sir Nathan liberon
net first Horsemen of

2912
02:53:22,890 --> 02:53:26,490
Armageddon. That's what it is.
And also, thank you for your

2913
02:53:26,490 --> 02:53:29,250
courage. And honestly, we were
just saying how much the show

2914
02:53:29,250 --> 02:53:32,160
matters without you guys. So
much of this wouldn't happen and

2915
02:53:32,160 --> 02:53:36,660
it's a wicked important show and
with that, donate more to no

2916
02:53:36,660 --> 02:53:39,000
agenda or they'll get you in
your sleep.

2917
02:53:41,160 --> 02:53:43,980
Adam Curry: We're gonna get your
your sleep. Exactly. And there's

2918
02:53:43,980 --> 02:53:47,370
a meet up this Tuesday. That's
the day before Valentine's Day

2919
02:53:47,370 --> 02:53:50,070
the 13th in Springfield,
Missouri, six o'clock and

2920
02:53:50,070 --> 02:53:53,310
Lindbergh's Tavern in
Springfield on Thursday. Our

2921
02:53:53,310 --> 02:53:56,700
next show day the Italian meet
up 630 At Smithies Taphouse and

2922
02:53:56,700 --> 02:54:00,810
Grill in Tallahassee, Florida.
The heavy holiday hangover meet

2923
02:54:00,810 --> 02:54:04,650
up oh yes the holiday being
Valentine's Day. By the way, get

2924
02:54:04,650 --> 02:54:08,220
your your love donations in for
Valentine's Day. Nothing says I

2925
02:54:08,220 --> 02:54:11,190
love you like a donation in your
name to know in your lovers

2926
02:54:11,190 --> 02:54:14,100
names and no agenda. That'll be
at the Lincoln's Roadhouse in

2927
02:54:14,100 --> 02:54:17,700
Denver, Colorado and Charlotte's
thirsty Third Thursday monthly

2928
02:54:17,700 --> 02:54:20,220
meet up seven o'clock Ed's
tavern, Charlotte, North

2929
02:54:20,220 --> 02:54:23,520
Carolina just one of the many
meetups that are available on no

2930
02:54:23,520 --> 02:54:27,180
agenda meetups.com Get your
connection. It's protection no

2931
02:54:27,180 --> 02:54:30,000
agenda meetup.com If you can't
find one near you start one

2932
02:54:30,000 --> 02:54:30,690
yourself.

2933
02:54:30,840 --> 02:54:36,660
Unknown: Sometimes you want to
go hang out with Dyson days.

2934
02:54:37,830 --> 02:54:45,870
You'd be triggered. You want to
be where everybody feels the

2935
02:54:45,870 --> 02:54:49,980
same. It's like a party

2936
02:54:53,310 --> 02:54:55,710
Adam Curry: are you telling me
you have no ISOs

2937
02:54:57,150 --> 02:54:59,670
John C Dvorak: I'm telling you I
had an ISO and I forgot to move

2938
02:54:59,670 --> 02:55:00,540
it to the file,

2939
02:55:01,260 --> 02:55:04,170
Adam Curry: I only have one. So
it's gonna have to be the winner

2940
02:55:04,170 --> 02:55:07,800
by default and I'm not happy
about it. We'll play it. There

2941
02:55:07,800 --> 02:55:12,960
is no evidence. That's it.
That's it. That's all I got. I

2942
02:55:12,960 --> 02:55:15,450
John C Dvorak: was I was the
only one from the archives. Well

2943
02:55:15,450 --> 02:55:15,930
know

2944
02:55:15,990 --> 02:55:18,360
Adam Curry: what's wrong with
this one. We've never used it.

2945
02:55:20,520 --> 02:55:23,760
Okay, let me see if it's due. I
have a different one here. I

2946
02:55:23,760 --> 02:55:24,090
have

2947
02:55:24,150 --> 02:55:26,190
Unknown: we have no evidence.
There's

2948
02:55:27,660 --> 02:55:30,480
Adam Curry: lots of evidence, I
suppose for some reason. Wait,

2949
02:55:30,690 --> 02:55:31,680
what is this one?

2950
02:55:32,280 --> 02:55:34,200
Unknown: And is there any any
evidence that this has actually

2951
02:55:34,200 --> 02:55:34,770
happened?

2952
02:55:35,430 --> 02:55:36,690
John C Dvorak: I like that one.

2953
02:55:38,190 --> 02:55:40,110
Adam Curry: Is there any
evidence that this actually

2954
02:55:40,110 --> 02:55:46,020
happened? Oh, my goodness. Good.
Good news. Good news. Good. Good

2955
02:55:46,020 --> 02:55:48,990
news. Good news. I'm hoping you
have a good news clip because I

2956
02:55:48,990 --> 02:55:51,870
do have a good course I do need
to redeem yourself after the

2957
02:55:51,870 --> 02:55:53,550
last show. So I have the coyote

2958
02:55:53,550 --> 02:55:56,100
John C Dvorak: story. This is a
good one. Oh, in Waukesha

2959
02:55:56,100 --> 02:55:56,490
County,

2960
02:55:56,520 --> 02:55:59,250
Unknown: a coyote nearly died
after getting stuck in the most

2961
02:55:59,280 --> 02:56:03,030
unlikeliest of places. 12 news
Erica Tinky shares Hall wildlife

2962
02:56:03,030 --> 02:56:06,060
rescue center gave the animal a
second chance at life

2963
02:56:06,120 --> 02:56:09,690
in unusual discovery in the
snowy backyard of a Muskego

2964
02:56:09,690 --> 02:56:14,310
homeowner, a coyote with her
head stuck in a statue. No,

2965
02:56:15,090 --> 02:56:18,630
After chasing a rabbit, not
being able to free herself for

2966
02:56:18,630 --> 02:56:22,500
more than 24 hours. The person
ultimately called for help

2967
02:56:22,530 --> 02:56:26,040
noting the creature was attached
to a statue of St. Francis of

2968
02:56:26,040 --> 02:56:27,060
Assisi. That's

2969
02:56:27,060 --> 02:56:31,110
the patron saint of animals and
we can't make that up. I think

2970
02:56:31,110 --> 02:56:33,390
there was some divine
intervention there divine

2971
02:56:33,390 --> 02:56:36,960
intervention says rescuer Kim
Banik because the coyote was

2972
02:56:36,960 --> 02:56:38,670
desperately in need of care.

2973
02:56:38,700 --> 02:56:43,080
She was in shock and hypothermic
so she didn't really have any

2974
02:56:43,080 --> 02:56:46,350
fight left on her. She was you
know, she would have definitely

2975
02:56:46,350 --> 02:56:47,730
died. The staff at the

2976
02:56:47,730 --> 02:56:51,270
wildlife and needs Center took
to her quickly leaving naming

2977
02:56:51,270 --> 02:56:54,210
her Frannie after the st while
she recovered,

2978
02:56:54,390 --> 02:56:57,840
all you could see was no broken
bones, which was a good thing,

2979
02:56:58,170 --> 02:57:00,540
because that's a lot longer to
fix.

2980
02:57:00,600 --> 02:57:02,430
After more than two weeks and
treatments,

2981
02:57:02,430 --> 02:57:05,310
the wildlife and needs center
felt Franny was ready to go back

2982
02:57:05,310 --> 02:57:06,660
home and it's the while

2983
02:57:06,690 --> 02:57:10,080
anytime it's a release as a best
case scenario. That's our goal

2984
02:57:10,080 --> 02:57:12,990
is to always release and back
into the wild. Give them that

2985
02:57:12,990 --> 02:57:16,260
second chance at life. Because
they all deserve to live.

2986
02:57:16,680 --> 02:57:20,280
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. They
all deserve to live.

2987
02:57:28,560 --> 02:57:33,480
I will say the good news segment
is a hit. People love it. They

2988
02:57:33,480 --> 02:57:36,300
do they love it. They love it.
They love it. They love it. It's

2989
02:57:36,300 --> 02:57:41,580
just good news. I mean, what
more do you want? Good news. And

2990
02:57:41,640 --> 02:57:44,910
here's some good news. We'll be
back on Thursday. Oh,

2991
02:57:44,970 --> 02:57:46,080
John C Dvorak: that is good
news. That's

2992
02:57:46,080 --> 02:57:49,470
Adam Curry: very good news. I'm
excited about that. And of

2993
02:57:49,470 --> 02:57:53,640
course we'll have a report and
your Valentine's wishes.

2994
02:57:54,210 --> 02:57:56,490
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
Valentine's show to Valentine's

2995
02:57:56,490 --> 02:57:59,400
Day show. So people should
consider putting a happy

2996
02:57:59,400 --> 02:58:02,370
Valentine's message out there.
Nothing

2997
02:58:02,370 --> 02:58:07,350
Adam Curry: says I love you.
Like donating to no agenda. And

2998
02:58:07,350 --> 02:58:11,430
the people who donate and no
agenda together, stay together.

2999
02:58:11,490 --> 02:58:13,200
It's a fact scientifically
proven,

3000
02:58:13,410 --> 02:58:15,450
John C Dvorak: especially on
Valentine's Day follow the

3001
02:58:15,450 --> 02:58:16,320
science people.

3002
02:58:16,800 --> 02:58:21,480
Adam Curry: Coming up. We have
the grumpy old Ben's on the

3003
02:58:21,480 --> 02:58:24,630
stream and your modern podcast
app and the show mix from Sir

3004
02:58:24,630 --> 02:58:28,740
Michael Anthony, Professor J.
Jones chicken from China and

3005
02:58:28,740 --> 02:58:32,190
Bill Mcnay and I'm coming to you
from the heart of the Texas hill

3006
02:58:32,190 --> 02:58:37,080
country here in FEMA Region
number six. Go Niners Dante Tae

3007
02:58:37,110 --> 02:58:39,570
yay in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry.

3008
02:58:39,960 --> 02:58:44,610
John C Dvorak: from Northern
like valley where I go nine

3009
02:58:44,610 --> 02:58:46,320
years. I'm John Cena. We

3010
02:58:46,320 --> 02:58:48,300
Adam Curry: will talk to you on
Thursday. Looking forward to it

3011
02:58:48,300 --> 02:58:52,140
everybody have a great weekend
until then adios mofos Hui Hui

3012
02:58:52,140 --> 02:58:52,680
and Sasha

3013
02:58:54,870 --> 02:58:59,010
Unknown: choice with our
patients is

3014
02:59:14,520 --> 02:59:15,450
vaccinations

3015
02:59:44,730 --> 02:59:47,040
you would respond with the words
watch me.

3016
02:59:48,300 --> 02:59:53,850
Watch me. Watch me. What
everybody knows who this guy is.

3017
02:59:53,850 --> 02:59:55,230
Come on, man. Two

3018
02:59:55,230 --> 02:59:58,530
thirds of American exit polls
say that they don't think you

3019
02:59:58,530 --> 03:00:01,260
should run for elections. The
report

3020
03:00:01,260 --> 03:00:04,830
also said the president suffers
from a faulty memory and quote

3021
03:00:04,830 --> 03:00:11,310
has diminished faculties in
advancing age on quote the

3022
03:00:11,310 --> 03:00:14,520
President referred to the
president of Egypt as the

3023
03:00:14,520 --> 03:00:15,930
president of Mexico

3024
03:00:16,650 --> 03:00:19,380
but everybody knows who this guy
is come on man

3025
03:00:23,940 --> 03:00:27,450
two thirds of Americans and exit
polls say that they don't think

3026
03:00:27,450 --> 03:00:28,830
you should run for re election

3027
03:00:29,310 --> 03:00:32,580
couldn't even remember the year
his son Bo die

3028
03:00:32,640 --> 03:00:35,400
when everybody knows who this
guy is come on man.

3029
03:00:35,760 --> 03:00:38,160
The report also said the
president suffers from a

3030
03:00:38,160 --> 03:00:42,030
faulty memory and quote has
diminished faculties in

3031
03:00:42,030 --> 03:00:43,050
advancing age

3032
03:00:45,390 --> 03:00:53,700
he would respond with the words
let him go no, NO NO NO NO NO NO

3033
03:00:53,700 --> 03:01:02,760
NO NO NO NO NO DON'T GO No, no,
no, no, no, no no no no. On on,

3034
03:01:02,760 --> 03:01:09,120
on, on, on, on on on, on on on
on on on on on on on on on on on

3035
03:01:09,120 --> 03:01:27,450
on you view in your mind is I
don't know what it is Don't you

3036
03:01:27,450 --> 03:01:30,540
know it's your time you should
read

3037
03:01:41,010 --> 03:01:41,460
this book

3038
03:01:56,430 --> 03:01:58,080
I want to tell you that you're
gonna serve

3039
03:02:08,280 --> 03:02:11,850
your guard

3040
03:02:18,450 --> 03:02:19,890
down because

3041
03:02:29,760 --> 03:02:30,660
rain is now

3042
03:02:43,410 --> 03:02:43,950
ready

3043
03:02:51,570 --> 03:02:58,710
MOPO boruch.org/in evidence has
actually happened