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John C Dvorak: Why are these
women behind a chain? Adam

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curry, John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Are they January
18 2024. This Year Award Winning

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Combination media assassination
episode 1646. This

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Unknown: is no agenda.

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Adam Curry: deconstructing Davos
and broadcasting live from the

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heart of the Texas Hill Country
here at FEMA Region number six.

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In the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry, from

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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where I advise everyone

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to learn how to pickled turnips.
I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: And this is
important for prepping for the

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apocalypse.

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John C Dvorak: It's just tasty.

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Adam Curry: I believe turnip is
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John C Dvorak: B s that would
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which is the root as referred to
as the Swede. And also what is

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the rutabaga is a turnip. Ah, it
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different flavor, but it's a
turnip. And just as good

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pickled,

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Adam Curry: and have you been
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John C Dvorak: I made some
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before the show pickled the turn
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would be my theme for the day

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Adam Curry: for breakfast. Is
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should I have for breakfast? I
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pickled turnip. I have a lot to
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it's gonna be great.

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John C Dvorak: It'd be good to
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Adam Curry: Ah, hey, my beat is
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don't think it's ever is the
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every year in Davos every year
so my beat is back on the beat.

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John C Dvorak: Are you referring
to Rachel Maddow?

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Adam Curry: Yeah. It's been
great this year. Is no has it?

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Oh, yeah. Because well, I can
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it. But the title of the the
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of apparent. The theme of Davos
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no one says Davao anymore. No,
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Davos. Tons of world leaders
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and banners everywhere for Intel
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have not seen that many
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the the typical article comes
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skyrocketing Hulu

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John C Dvorak: 2500 bucks a
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Adam Curry: that seems cheap.
What happened to inflation for

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John C Dvorak: day, make it up
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Adam Curry: I'd like to
deconstruct a little bit with

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some short clips just to get us
all into the mood. The theme for

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this year is restoring trust
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Unknown: corporate giants,
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coming together in Davos,
Switzerland today. It's the

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start of the 54th World Economic
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John C Dvorak: Up stopping you
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where this clip come from.

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Adam Curry: This is CB is just
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okay. I mean, I could have
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minute intro just to get you
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know what's happening

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Unknown: economically. And
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Swiss ski resort as those
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there US Secretary of State
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the French president key Middle
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the economics of things front
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economic forecasts may be of
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Mark Carney, the former Bank of
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scheduled to talk today, but to
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representation in all of this.

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The biggest risk we face is that
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trust into our institutions and
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capability to shape a better
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Adam Curry: trust we are losing
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that clip he was saying that to
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guy from CNN who got caught with
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John C Dvorak: from CIA who they
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Adam Curry: I don't remember if
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Quest Richard Quest. Yeah. So
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Schwab and Klaus Shrivers to us,
we lose. I can't take that guy.

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Serious. See anymore?

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John C Dvorak: You could take
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Adam Curry: No, I guess not. All
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first one is a little longer.
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relatively short just to get our
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important thing? What is this
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report. This is what the theme
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Unknown: Let me go back to the
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risk report. This information
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this has been our focus, since
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Adam Curry: by mandate, this is
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Unknown: With our Digital
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responsibilities of large
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content. They promote and
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responsible to children and
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hate speech hate speech, that
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our societies as a whole. Yes,
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online and offline, is getting
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values we cherish offline should
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that's not all. And this is even
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of generative AI generative

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Adam Curry: AI now, the

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Unknown: world's economic risk
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intelligence as one of the top
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Adam Curry: All right, so that's
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one of the top potential risks
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generic generic motive generic,
the generic narrative I love. I

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love the Alright, now a couple
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from Alibaba, former Goldman
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. That's
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tracker. They tuned we don't
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this is something that we're
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John C Dvorak: just, oh, they're
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Adam Curry: It'll be great
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based on what you eat. So all of
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vibe, you know, Uber, Uber
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next clip I love to guys trying
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World Order. This is in fact
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founder or co founder, and this
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jungle growing back. And we
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Adam Curry: You remember when
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conspiracy theory, this is
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order. That's all it's Alex
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1945 is getting replaced
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since 1945. But I do think in a
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distinctive way. We are moving
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something new. We have the cup
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like. And at the heart of it
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principles and core institutions
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for the challenges that we face
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Adam Curry: Imagine spending
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1000s of dollars in hotel and
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to stand in line and listen to
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New World Order each other. It's
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John C Dvorak: yes, you do I
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Adam Curry: we know the old war
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We asked Newspeak war is peace.
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the still to be replaced NATO
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Unknown: does that if we want
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enter this all the way to get
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weapons to Ukraine. Credible we
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more likely it is that the
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Adam Curry: to achieve peace, we
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was a lot of coffee klatch about
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bad x x. I guess the the elite
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although I disagree. I think you
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Unknown: for a long time I was
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such a toxic place that I've
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time and as you said, it is
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Adam Curry: No, no, these are
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clutch about x. Okay, just it's
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they'll have all these little
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Nick Daniels. Yeah, though
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Unknown: not worthwhile place to
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is exhausting. So you do have to
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across. But I am trying to
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given up on X but a scary name.
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environment. We talked about, I
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think one they will come the
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Conduct because journalists,
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news and insults, and if you if
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can he can be amended. Why? Why
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such big power. We can, because
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will be a societal reflection on
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of course on also, the policy of
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but the problem of society of
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Adam Curry: that is the problem
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must change. They had a lot of
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and social conduct. And we can't
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this not like journalism. And of
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go on a lot of interview
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outside. So he's on CNBC and
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was I think, some Indian outfit.
And surprise, surprise bill is

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selling more vaccines, we make

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Unknown: sure that for all these
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capacity, that there's
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vaccine patch, which has little
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John C Dvorak: but they want to
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stay standby. Then of course we
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genocide, genocide, genocide,
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and destruction of nature. But
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organization and other
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have this recognized legally as
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the issues that sort of pervades
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damage to nature as seriously as
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property. And that's, I mean, if
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environmental space. And so And
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ecocide, what we see is actually
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conscience around the side
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damage that happens with that
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farming is killing, nature
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John C Dvorak: Of course.
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Adam Curry: we're almost there.
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John C Dvorak: Everybody's
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Adam Curry: everybody's buddy
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Organization. And he just
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talk about this is x. This is x
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COVID came immediately that we
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even call COVID as the first
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Adam Curry: yes, it may

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John C Dvorak: happen again,
every 100 years, but somehow

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it's going to cycle is going to
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Adam Curry: Well, Elon Musk is
disease X. But he's just not

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saying anyway, what is really
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really what all the discussions
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down to. And we're just going to
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to Queen, Ursula, this is what
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business,

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deliver the solutions, we need
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change, or industrial scale
disinformation. And this is more

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important than ever, as we start
2020 for the biggest electoral

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year, in history, democracies
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the pulse, and half of the
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have the right mind to be
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different from the majority.
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Adam Curry: is what they're
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about the rise of the people,
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John C Dvorak: Far Right. And
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populism as though as a bad
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Adam Curry: what they're worried
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everywhere in every country in
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exactly. So they have brought it
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to disinfo better, they have to
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native AI to disinfo better
figure out how to dis info about

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climate change. That's what
every single session is about.

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They are deathly afraid of the
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one thing called voting. So of
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probably swapping out secrets.
Hey, if you stuffed the ballot

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box, you couldn't win is great.
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was just mind boggling at Dubbo.
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CEO, Jamie Dimon always goes on
the morning show always spouts

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off. And he confirmed and Jamie
diamond is a Trump hater. He's

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been a Trump hater. He hates
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just a hater. But the hater
butters gotta hate and I would

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say he's, you know, he's he's
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fact. Yeah, I mean, he didn't
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because he paid everybody off.
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paid it all off. Yeah, that's
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messages what we were theorizing
about, that the whole plan is

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here to have Trump win this
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the collapse, because there will
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there isn't one already
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because it's great, because then
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things you need to do. We need a
financial reset, we need to

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blame it all on Trump and
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years, everybody will be saying,
please give us Joe back

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anything, but this isn't
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worthy. And he did it in the
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hunky dory. And you know, and
when stock markets rough, it's

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kind of like this little drug we
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you know, but remember, we've
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stimulation. So I'm a little
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Adam Curry: I love how he laughs
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much money was great.

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stimulation. So I'm a little
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we are facing a lot of things in
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Ukraine, the terrorist activity
Israel, the Red Sea,

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quantitative tightening, which I
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exactly how that works. I don't
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work, what the effect of
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affecting oil, gas, food
migration. So you have all these

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very powerful forces that are
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and 25. So if I was the
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for I'm going to do about that,
assuming things aren't good. And

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wish the Democrats would think a

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little more carefully when they
talk about Magga. You know, and

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if you travel this country, then
the cruise is unbelievable. We

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took a bus trip this year, and
Leslie picker was on Spokane and

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Boise and volcanoes growing,
they're hungry to grow. They're

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innovating. It's, it's
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Silicon Valley. So we've got
this great hand. But when people

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say Magga, they're actually
looking at people voting for

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Trump, and they think they're
voting and they're basically

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scapegoating them, that you are
like him. And I don't think

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they're voting for Trump because
family values. If you just take

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a step back, be honest. He's
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Tax Reform worked. He was right
about some of China. I don't I

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don't like what he did. I said
China made me I don't like how

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he said things Mexico, I don't
like, but he wasn't wrong about

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these critical issues. And
that's why they voted for him.

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And I think people should be a
little more respectful of our

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fellow citizens. And when you
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should always ask the why not
like it's a binary thing. You're

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supporting Trump, you're not
support Trump. Why use it's

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John C Dvorak: hard to hate 75
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Americans. It's, I agree done.

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good job with the deplorables
plugging on their Bibles and

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their beer and their guns. I
mean, really, like, can we just

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stop that stuff and actually
grow up and other people respect

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and listen to a little bit? I do
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think this this negative talk
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Adam Curry: Get let Trump have
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it. Let Maga win. Give it to
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it's not going to be good.
What's happening? That's what I

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John C Dvorak: And that's an
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think you could have heard that.
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Adam Curry: I feel that and I
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feel that it is the word is out.
The message is in is like the

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Iowa caucus. 1% of the vote was
in, in the media who always

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determines our elections, called
it for Trump. This This was

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surprising to me. The New York
Times called it for Trump within

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one minute. NPR was surprised
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Unknown: what's it all mean? For
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Political Editor and
correspondent Dominika Montana

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Oh, hey there, Dominica. Hey,
Mary Louise Hay, depress made a

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swift call made quite an early
call last night and the call was

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that Trump had an insurmountable
lead. What stood out to you

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about last night? Well,
surprises

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can happen in politics, and we
should prepare ourselves for

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those. But this result was not
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surprised, though, at how
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mean, just half an hour after
voting began at and other

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networks were able to do that
because of the overwhelming lead

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that Trump had in the entrance
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the state. And then that matched
some key precincts. And that's

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all that was really needed for
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confidence level. In the end, it
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the vote exactly what polling
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Adam Curry: I thought it was
very suspicious. Calling it for

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Trump with 1% of the vote that
also skews people who still

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hadn't voted. Noses

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John C Dvorak: caucuses is no
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Adam Curry: okay, it's caucus
and yes, I don't know. It's to

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me, it was very suspicious that
all of a sudden they're like,

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oh, it's Trump. Didn't you think
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John C Dvorak: didn't see it
that way. Personally, it was

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obvious he was gonna do that.
And he just wanted to get out of

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there and go home. damn cold to
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Adam Curry: the way, the there
was this open letter to the

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Davos here, proud to pay more.
Our message at Davos is simple.

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elected leaders must tax us the
super rich, we'd be proud to pay

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more. So a whole bunch of rich
douchebags sign this open

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letter. And I would just like to
remind them if you go to

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Treasury direct.gov The Bureau
of the Fiscal Service is happy

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to accept gifts donated to the
United States government to

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reduce the debt held by the
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John C Dvorak: This is true, you
are the it is your app. So save

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all joined in, I guess the whole
center money and you think

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Adam Curry: it's just
performative in 2022. A whopping

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$180,310.32 was donated
voluntarily. This should be

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John C Dvorak: You think these
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Adam Curry: proud to pay more?
Yeah. Oh yes, please. We're

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proud to pay more to tackle
extreme inequality, proud to pay

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more to help reduce the cost of
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John C Dvorak: Are there any
names on there that you can tell

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Adam Curry: We the undersigned
the funniest one is Brian Cox,

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who plays a billionaire on
television in billions are no

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secession secession as a whole
bunch of people have been

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there's hundreds of people here.
I presume they're all

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billionaires. I don't know maybe

447
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John C Dvorak: it was done in
just that because I think you

448
00:27:54,570 --> 00:27:59,550
right, they should be donating
their excess funds to Treasury

449
00:27:59,550 --> 00:28:04,710
Adam Curry: Todd Oppenheimer
sounds like a rich dude. There's

450
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:07,350
no Jamie Dimon on here. I'll
tell you that. He's not he's not

451
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stupid. But yeah, I just want to
remind everybody, you you can,

452
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,740
you can definitely, you can
definitely help us out. Just

453
00:28:13,770 --> 00:28:17,670
donate your money right now. I
will. Thank you.

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00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,340
John C Dvorak: So to change
topics a bit, I want to do a mia

455
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culpa for myself. Oh, to say got
two or three notes. Nasty notes.

456
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,370
Adam Curry: Yeah. Can you get to
read up?

457
00:28:30,390 --> 00:28:34,170
John C Dvorak: Now I don't need
to read it Micah summarize. And

458
00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:39,780
the nasty notes evolved revolved
around the Zoomer who quit her

459
00:28:39,780 --> 00:28:47,700
job? Or who got fired? Yes. From
Cloudflare. Yes. And what's of

460
00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:51,030
importance? I'll just summarize.
Well, I also gotten asked, you

461
00:28:51,030 --> 00:28:53,970
know, for some woman who just
called me a douchebag, for even

462
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,050
Adam Curry: I think she actually
said, that's 30 minutes of my

463
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life, I'll never get back again.

464
00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:03,870
John C Dvorak: It was a nine
minute clip. So I don't know how

465
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she does her calculation. She's
lucky to have a job herself.

466
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Where so? One guy pointed out,
one of our producers seemed

467
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extremely knowledgeable about
sales. And he pointed out that

468
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,500
this bullcrap, because all his
say most of his sales close

469
00:29:22,830 --> 00:29:26,130
during that holiday period
between Thanksgiving and New

470
00:29:26,130 --> 00:29:30,480
Year's. So she was full of shit
that she couldn't close these

471
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deals during the most profitable
time of the year. And I was

472
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,860
thinking about when he said that
you read that note. I said to

473
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myself, you know, that's funny.
I did. I didn't recognize that

474
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fact. Because all of our income
for this show pretty much shows

475
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up in that same period.

476
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Adam Curry: Yes. And so yeah,
yeah, you're right. So that's

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the closing

478
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John C Dvorak: time of the year.
So this woman had no legs to

479
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stand on and regarding this
complaint, when that's when she

480
00:29:57,900 --> 00:30:01,470
should have closed, not the He's
falling apart. And then he had a

481
00:30:01,470 --> 00:30:04,470
number of breakdowns and the way
she didn't close and some of the

482
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details of her incompetence, and
he went on about it. And it was

483
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very, I took that one to heart.
That was a good note. And then

484
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somebody else pointed out, which
I thought was off. Yeah, there's

485
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that because I had made such a
fuss about this is the new new

486
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this is gonna happen a lot
because we were going to record

487
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these calls. And then he
reminded me because I know this,

488
00:30:24,510 --> 00:30:29,070
from my experience, that when
you when you get fired, or get

489
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laid off, you get a bonus,
usually of cash money, if you

490
00:30:32,970 --> 00:30:37,920
sign a nondisclosure. Yeah, as
you walk out the door. Yeah. So

491
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in other words, you can you hate
the company, not because they

492
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,490
just fired, you're there, you're
gone by, oh, here's five grand

493
00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:48,180
design this thing, you can take
this check home, and but you

494
00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:50,820
have to shut up, you can start
bitching and moaning about the

495
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company. So that precludes the
idea that everyone is going to

496
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be doing this because in fact,
especially in tech, everyone's

497
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is bought off. But NDAs they
can't do it. In fact, she

498
00:31:04,050 --> 00:31:07,860
obviously refused to do that.
And she just left in a huff so.

499
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So I was my interpretation of
the entire scene, I consider to

500
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be completely erroneous, if that
helps anyone.

501
00:31:15,210 --> 00:31:17,580
Adam Curry: I also received an
interesting note from one of our

502
00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:21,900
knights. He says I've fired over
1000 people in my career, I was

503
00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:24,510
doing exactly what Clooney was
doing in the moving in the

504
00:31:24,510 --> 00:31:26,880
movie, including living in
Dallas and flying American

505
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,210
Airlines. If they wanted to
avoid paying more for

506
00:31:30,210 --> 00:31:33,600
unemployment insurance, and
we're firing for cause they

507
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,610
should have been better
organized, he says, But what

508
00:31:35,610 --> 00:31:38,460
I've done the way I did it, we
usually start by saying you

509
00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:41,070
being let go with no cause and
will be eligible for

510
00:31:41,070 --> 00:31:44,310
unemployment. There's no point
in telling someone why they are

511
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:47,040
being let go unless you are
doing for cause and will fight

512
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,400
unemployment benefits. He says
the single biggest layoff I've

513
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,300
ever done, I fired five years
ago, I fired 76 people on the

514
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:56,790
same zoom call. Man that's cold.

515
00:31:57,870 --> 00:31:59,520
John C Dvorak: That's a good
one. That's cold.

516
00:32:00,570 --> 00:32:04,350
Adam Curry: That was five years
ago. One other point of note,

517
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because we questioned whether
the stacked ranking was a part

518
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:13,380
of Salesforce. And we also
brought up SAP one of our

519
00:32:13,380 --> 00:32:17,160
producers who works for SAP says
I know for a fact our software

520
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,400
is not able to do stacked
ranking, because we do ranking

521
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,200
ourselves on a spreadsheet. I've
never had to stack rank fire

522
00:32:25,230 --> 00:32:27,810
anyone but when we're talking
about who's getting bonuses and

523
00:32:27,810 --> 00:32:30,900
salary increases, we do it every
year, we have a spreadsheet

524
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,420
sought out the team and update
the software from the

525
00:32:33,420 --> 00:32:37,410
spreadsheet. So apparently you
know that you know I would start

526
00:32:37,470 --> 00:32:41,880
I would I would start looking
for a job but Salesforce if I

527
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:48,960
were you SAP seems to be behind.
Behind. And it was Bambi Bambi

528
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:55,140
is the company that you call for
to for HR to fire people. Oh,

529
00:32:55,170 --> 00:32:59,940
Bambi ba M glam li cute Bambi
BAM delay. So

530
00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:01,890
John C Dvorak: now that's true.
I think that straightens out.

531
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,510
Adam Curry: We're incredibly
sorry for the loss of life. So

532
00:33:06,510 --> 00:33:07,080
sorry.

533
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,040
John C Dvorak: Really learned
something?

534
00:33:11,460 --> 00:33:15,810
Adam Curry: Yeah, that we that
your your stuff is no good. No

535
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,350
good. And

536
00:33:16,350 --> 00:33:17,460
John C Dvorak: my clips suck,

537
00:33:17,490 --> 00:33:20,190
Adam Curry: you're hurting
people. That, you know, I want

538
00:33:20,190 --> 00:33:23,250
to remind people because we've
been doing our value for value

539
00:33:23,250 --> 00:33:27,840
segments at the end, which
looking at the minute by minute,

540
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:31,680
we can track some of that with
podcasting 2.0 Not person but we

541
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,700
can see. It's not really such a
drop off other than there's a

542
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:40,740
drop off. But I was surprised by
this note from one of our

543
00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:43,560
producers as I first of all must
express my opinion. And my

544
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,020
appreciation and affection for
the show have had many people in

545
00:33:46,020 --> 00:33:49,830
mouth include my wife and two
daughters, aged 14 and 27. I've

546
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:52,890
made anonymous donations and
attended several nogen meetups,

547
00:33:53,070 --> 00:33:55,560
I must point out something that
you may not have considered a

548
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,370
concern to the donation section.
It may be hard to believe most

549
00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:03,690
women don't want to hear about
boob donations. My wife and

550
00:34:03,690 --> 00:34:06,690
daughters no longer listen to
the show with me because of the

551
00:34:06,690 --> 00:34:11,040
awkwardness. And it goes on to
say you just understand that

552
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,530
they don't want to listen to
locker room talk about

553
00:34:13,530 --> 00:34:17,310
objectifying body parts of
women. And I had to pause there

554
00:34:17,310 --> 00:34:20,550
for a second and say they have
no problem with clips about

555
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:24,330
babies being beheaded and ripped
out of wombs and all the other

556
00:34:24,330 --> 00:34:28,800
stuff that's going on in the
world, but the word boob and and

557
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,490
I would say Sir Kevin McLaughlin
honors this part of the female

558
00:34:32,490 --> 00:34:36,690
anatomy that somehow is enough
for them to say I can't listen

559
00:34:36,690 --> 00:34:37,680
to this show anymore.

560
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John C Dvorak: Well, I thought
that was a net to be very

561
00:34:42,630 --> 00:34:48,210
specious. What my argument is
juvenile in that regard. What my

562
00:34:48,210 --> 00:34:53,610
argument is no, the women's
argument? Yes. I think that they

563
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,320
are being silly. To put it
mildly silly.

564
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Adam Curry: Oh, I in all the
years that Kevin McLaughlin has

565
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,950
been doing this this is the
first complaint I've ever

566
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:05,580
received.

567
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:07,800
John C Dvorak: Well I'm sure
there's other people that don't

568
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,270
like it. I think that I think

569
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:11,850
Adam Curry: that your daughters
and your wife just hate the show

570
00:35:11,850 --> 00:35:12,210
and they

571
00:35:12,210 --> 00:35:15,060
John C Dvorak: know where what
state are they in I like to know

572
00:35:15,060 --> 00:35:19,590
in that state I do not know I
do. Or country

573
00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:24,450
Adam Curry: I think America but
I think it's just they're sick

574
00:35:24,450 --> 00:35:28,170
and tired of listening to your
podcasts and they use that as a

575
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,510
as a as an excuse.

576
00:35:31,860 --> 00:35:34,140
John C Dvorak: I believe that to
be correct. You can listen to

577
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:38,970
this right here. People are
looking for excuses not to

578
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:42,480
donate and people are looking
for excuses to donate. You have

579
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,280
to give them excuses to donate
it now. Everything becomes an

580
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,610
excuse not to donate ended the
show itself if you don't like

581
00:35:50,610 --> 00:35:54,480
the show. Yeah. Yeah, you can
point a finger at the boob

582
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,580
donation and which is which is
playful. You don't enjoy

583
00:35:59,610 --> 00:36:03,300
playfulness. You're taking
things a little too seriously.

584
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:09,600
Is this show is not for you? No.
Because really playful, playful

585
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,130
show. In fact, I have

586
00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:15,570
Adam Curry: no agenda. It's a
playful show.

587
00:36:15,930 --> 00:36:17,580
John C Dvorak: It is a playful,
playful show.

588
00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:19,590
Adam Curry: I like that we're a
playful show.

589
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:23,580
John C Dvorak: So I listened to
just got caught up in when a

590
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:28,260
Trump speeches and I listened to
most of it. I didn't get to hear

591
00:36:28,260 --> 00:36:34,110
the whole thing. But I do have
Do I have a mini or do not have

592
00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:38,700
a visiting DC I have I have? Oh,
here it is Trump. Yeah. So I got

593
00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:44,700
a couple of his his bits out new
bits is fish stick they uses his

594
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:47,550
new some of his new material
that is used in his set

595
00:36:49,470 --> 00:36:52,830
Adam Curry: this back. That's a
great set. Man. That was great

596
00:36:52,830 --> 00:36:54,090
set. So

597
00:36:54,090 --> 00:36:55,740
John C Dvorak: I just want to
play these two because they one

598
00:36:55,740 --> 00:37:00,480
of them was is new, new standby.
But the first one I just thought

599
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,360
was kind of cute. A very short
clip is just throws it in this

600
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,630
Trump on visiting Washington DC.
But there's not

601
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:09,330
Unknown: going to be people show
up. People come in from your

602
00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:12,360
state. They want to go see
Washington. So they come in from

603
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,640
New Hampshire, they walk down
the road, they end up getting

604
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,270
shot.

605
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,420
Adam Curry: They get shot in the
nation's capitol.

606
00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:24,780
John C Dvorak: You go to
Washington, you get shot. Now,

607
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,500
the funny thing is about that
particular bit is that he knows

608
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:34,740
it is it is you know, he knows
he's doing jokes. And so he kind

609
00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:37,680
of blew that one up because they
use the word shot and they

610
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,260
pulled it back as fast as he
could say he couldn't hear it at

611
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:45,060
the very beginning. If you
listen to the very beginning, he

612
00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:47,970
says he uses the word shot, go
to Washington DC to get shot,

613
00:37:47,970 --> 00:37:52,770
and then he kind of chokes over
it. So he knows what he's doing

614
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:54,480
up there. Yeah. Oh, of course.
He

615
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,070
Adam Curry: knows what he's
doing. Now. Here's

616
00:37:56,070 --> 00:37:58,140
John C Dvorak: the bit that he
did. He's done this one all

617
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throughout Iowa. And he used to
do it. He did it the first time

618
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,260
he did. He got a big reaction
from the MSNBC and others. So

619
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he's trying he wants people to
die to vote for him. So

620
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Unknown: even if you think and I
joked I said, if your husband

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sick as a dog, get him out of
bed, darling Jack Jack. Yeah,

622
00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:24,660
yes, yes. I'm so sick. Don't.
Jack, get your ass out of bed.

623
00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:29,490
You're voting for your star. It
doesn't matter. As long as he

624
00:38:29,490 --> 00:38:32,880
gets that voted. He kicks the
bucket after that. It's okay. He

625
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,700
served his country. I'll write
him a letter. Jack, thank you

626
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:39,120
for your service. Jack. Thank
you for writing the letter.

627
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,650
Jack, thank you for your
service.

628
00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:46,920
Adam Curry: He's deplorable. I
can't believe is. He's the

629
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worst. This is what's
interesting, because he does

630
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,540
this type of stick. Let me see I
have it here. And I'm sure you

631
00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:58,710
saw some of this. I've just a
short couple of short ones. But

632
00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:04,830
the MSNBC folks just went off
the rails about well, he's

633
00:39:04,830 --> 00:39:08,940
playing to the white Christians.
Yeah, that's exactly what the

634
00:39:08,940 --> 00:39:11,850
white Christians want to hear.
We want to hear about getting

635
00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:13,950
shot. That's exactly right. Joy
read.

636
00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:17,610
Unknown: But you know, I feel
like the important sort of data

637
00:39:17,610 --> 00:39:20,160
point data point, you know,
Steve talks about it a lot.

638
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,190
He's, he's gonna probably talk
about a little more tonight is

639
00:39:23,220 --> 00:39:26,340
that these these are white
Christians, that this is a state

640
00:39:26,340 --> 00:39:29,670
that is overrepresented, or over
represented by white Christians

641
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:32,070
that are going to participate in
these caucuses, especially

642
00:39:32,490 --> 00:39:35,880
tonight. I today earlier today
reached out to Robert Jones,

643
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,520
Robin Jones, from Robert
Religion Research Institute,

644
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:41,130
knowing that we were going to
talk about Iowa and this is a

645
00:39:41,130 --> 00:39:45,030
hyper evangelical white state.
And he said the following to me

646
00:39:45,060 --> 00:39:48,690
Iowa is about 61% White
Christian, the country as a

647
00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:52,740
whole is approximately 41%,
white Christian. And if I were

648
00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:54,900
talking about evangelical white
Christians, and he said the

649
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:58,170
following, because I asked him,
what do they get out of

650
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,810
supporting Donald Trump because
he keeps him Losing, he keeps

651
00:40:00,810 --> 00:40:03,360
delivering losses and losses,
losses. And he said the

652
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,500
following. They see themselves
as the rightful inheritors of

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this country. And Trump has
promised to give it back to

654
00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:15,270
them. All the things that we
think about, about electability

655
00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:18,300
about, you know, what are people
gaming out or none of that

656
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:22,860
matters when you believe that
God has given you this country

657
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that it is yours, and that
everyone who is not a white

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00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:32,130
conservative Christian is a is a
fraudulent American is a less a

659
00:40:32,130 --> 00:40:35,010
less real American than you
don't care about electability.

660
00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:37,890
Adam Curry: I gotta find a
better church. We're not talking

661
00:40:37,890 --> 00:40:41,310
about that in our church. But I
want to hear that God gave this

662
00:40:41,310 --> 00:40:43,170
country to us the white
Christians.

663
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John C Dvorak: Wow, does she
just dream this stuff out of

664
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thin air? Oh, no, this to me,
this

665
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Adam Curry: was an ongoing
topic. This is Yeah. Man,

666
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Supercuts

667
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John C Dvorak: of the of this
claim that Trump get even

668
00:40:56,310 --> 00:40:59,820
there's another, I should have
gotten these clips. There was a

669
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series of clips, all taken from
MSNBC saying that even though he

670
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was broke pretty much every
record for Iowa caucuses. Now

671
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Adam Curry: he lost. Oh, I
didn't hear that. Well. Yeah,

672
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John C Dvorak: he lost because
nobody showed there wasn't

673
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enough people to vote. It was
really a losers. It's a surprise

674
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that the numbers were so low.
What he did to 51% was it's

675
00:41:21,690 --> 00:41:28,680
amazing even got that much.
Lost. He was a loser. Alex,

676
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,670
people are in clinically insane
over at MSNBC.

677
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:35,730
Adam Curry: I don't even know I
need to I'm sure the ratings are

678
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doing better. Because, you know,
people need this. They they need

679
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,140
to get their fix of Yeah, yeah,
that's right. Yeah. Yeah, that's

680
00:41:43,140 --> 00:41:46,800
right, man. It's the Christians
only the white Christians. By

681
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,740
the way, the black Christians
pretty radical in this country.

682
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,740
John C Dvorak: If you're much
more radical than white Chris.

683
00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:53,970
Yes, of course.

684
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Adam Curry: Let's listen to Alex
Wagner, who was supposed to be

685
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more serious than a man. There
was so many cool memes of joy

686
00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:04,920
read with that white hair do
that. She's got the white legs.

687
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,480
John C Dvorak: He's a Trump
hair. Yes. A Trump.

688
00:42:06,930 --> 00:42:09,390
Adam Curry: earpiece. Oh, there
was a lot of that. A lot of

689
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generic AI stuff. I loved it.

690
00:42:11,940 --> 00:42:14,490
Unknown: I Steve was pointing
out the evangelical vote, which

691
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I've been fascinated by and
recently,

692
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Adam Curry: what exactly is the
evangelical vote Joe? Just so I

693
00:42:19,770 --> 00:42:22,080
understand, because they throw
this term out there all the

694
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time. But is that a

695
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John C Dvorak: voting bloc is
considered the evangelical vote.

696
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:35,730
Yeah, that stems from mostly the
south. And it's supposed to be

697
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:39,060
it's like the black vote. It's
enough to

698
00:42:39,210 --> 00:42:43,290
Adam Curry: prop up but what is
an evangelical and

699
00:42:43,290 --> 00:42:46,530
John C Dvorak: evangelize
evangelical? Helped me Okay,

700
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,360
evangelical in my mind is a
Christian fundamentalist that

701
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comes out of the Pentecostal and
mostly the Pentecostal church.

702
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:57,480
Okay.

703
00:42:57,690 --> 00:43:01,050
Adam Curry: Oh, all right. We
don't have one of those here. I

704
00:43:01,050 --> 00:43:04,620
gotta find one weeks because
there's gotta be there's no, I

705
00:43:04,620 --> 00:43:06,330
don't think there's a
Pentecostal. We have a lot of

706
00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:09,540
churches I'd be I'd be stunned.
Now. A lot of Lutheran churches

707
00:43:09,540 --> 00:43:12,600
around here, Lutheran. Themed
reporters

708
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Unknown: have been talking about
the way in which the Trump

709
00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:18,930
coalition the Maga coalition has
ads coalition devoured the

710
00:43:18,930 --> 00:43:22,560
evangelical coalition, kind of a
case study in that Michelle

711
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,350
Goldberg talks about it. Tim
Alberta's new book talks about

712
00:43:25,350 --> 00:43:27,930
it. David French has talked
about this phenomenon. And if

713
00:43:27,930 --> 00:43:32,100
you look at those entry polls,
you know, as Steve points out,

714
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:36,030
55% of white born again or
evangelicals are going through

715
00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:40,980
Trump. That is a that is an
exponential increase from 2016.

716
00:43:41,490 --> 00:43:45,510
Do you consider yourself part of
the Magga movement? 78% going

717
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:48,330
for Trump. That's not hugely
surprising. But the overlap

718
00:43:48,330 --> 00:43:51,960
there I think is what I mean is
what is so remarkable about this

719
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,470
moment in American politics
right? By van der Platz, right

720
00:43:55,470 --> 00:44:00,090
who is a kingmaker in Iowa
politics an evangelical and very

721
00:44:00,090 --> 00:44:02,520
much a mouthpiece for the
evangelical vote

722
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:06,900
Adam Curry: or want to be an
evangelical kingmaker. This is

723
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:09,660
make you want to be in on this.
This sounds like

724
00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:14,160
Unknown: fun Iowa endorses Don
Ron DeSantis. It clearly does

725
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,090
not matter. Evangelical America
is behind Donald Troy in

726
00:44:18,090 --> 00:44:19,710
John C Dvorak: a minute hold on
a second.

727
00:44:22,110 --> 00:44:24,960
Adam Curry: She listening to
herself clearly. Now she's

728
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,450
reading the prompter. She's got

729
00:44:27,450 --> 00:44:32,490
John C Dvorak: this guy who is
the evangelical Pied Piper king

730
00:44:32,490 --> 00:44:36,540
maker. And he's all in for
DeSantis and DeSantis. Just you

731
00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:42,420
know, you know pretty much bid
bid the bid to dust. Yeah, in

732
00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:46,680
that election. So what was she
talking about? At the event Joe

733
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,460
did were there just a leaderless
cult what she's saying

734
00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:53,940
Adam Curry: is you just feel an
airtime maybe you want to hear

735
00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:54,330
more

736
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John C Dvorak: details filling
Yeah, back it up a little bit

737
00:44:57,150 --> 00:45:01,740
Unknown: Santas. It clearly does
not matter. evangelical America

738
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is behind Donald Trump. And that
sort of gets to the roots of

739
00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:08,730
like what Trump ism is now. You
know, we were told in 2016 that

740
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,910
evangelicals made their beds
with Trump because they wanted

741
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:15,180
to have a Supreme Court that was
modeled in an evangelical

742
00:45:15,210 --> 00:45:18,480
conservative model. Well, they
got that but if evangelically

743
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,440
Adam Curry: conservative model,
is that a new Tesla, I need I

744
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,310
need some of this

745
00:45:23,310 --> 00:45:26,490
Unknown: seems like their
affiliation with both and take a

746
00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:27,510
look at this court they're

747
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:30,720
John C Dvorak: talking about,
except for Amy Comey buried or

748
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:34,290
we're only one is the only one
she's the only one the rest of

749
00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:41,100
them are Catholic or Jewish. But
Amy Kony Barrett, as I have I

750
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:43,980
have the Chevron deference
clips. Yeah, I'm excited because

751
00:45:43,980 --> 00:45:47,610
that's coming up. I'm excited.
She's like, you know, she's a

752
00:45:47,610 --> 00:45:50,940
pretty much of a long she's one
of those people that over

753
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:53,850
studies have been she's not
falling in line with anything

754
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,910
Unknown: that was modeled in an
evangelical conservative model.

755
00:45:56,910 --> 00:46:00,180
Well, they got that but it seems
like their affiliation with

756
00:46:00,180 --> 00:46:03,840
Trump and Maga is in runs deeper
than that. And, you know, David

757
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,510
French has articulated this
point beautifully. It's, it's,

758
00:46:06,510 --> 00:46:09,930
it's the Trump is in some ways
become religion for a certain

759
00:46:09,930 --> 00:46:10,740
set of Americans.

760
00:46:14,070 --> 00:46:16,050
Adam Curry: We're singing songs
in church about him,

761
00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:18,630
Unknown: and especially for
evangelicals, that it's not

762
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:21,960
about the virtue anymore. It's
about the vise that Trump

763
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,710
expresses. And I think you see
that playing out in Iowa where

764
00:46:25,710 --> 00:46:29,490
the evangelical vote is key. It
is central to what is going to

765
00:46:29,490 --> 00:46:34,050
unfold tonight. And it is very
much a group of people that that

766
00:46:34,050 --> 00:46:38,610
find that Trump is, in some ways
the Second Coming. Trump

767
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:42,930
Adam Curry: is the Trump upon
the cross is

768
00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:45,810
Unknown: taking out ads, like
the one that came out, I think a

769
00:46:45,810 --> 00:46:50,760
week ago called god named Trump,
there is a distinctly religious

770
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,800
undertone to his campaigning
nationally. And and I think you

771
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,980
see that playing out in Iowa,
right? I mean, right. Your

772
00:46:58,980 --> 00:47:03,120
numbers do not lie, Rachel. And
I find it really a spectacularly

773
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:07,140
interesting thing, if not,
downright curious. Now,

774
00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:10,380
Adam Curry: this is interesting,
because I don't think this was

775
00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:13,920
an ad created for television.
She just kind of said that,

776
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,970
like, Oh, right. made this ad
where God made Trump. Have you

777
00:47:17,970 --> 00:47:21,930
seen this? This video? God made
Trump? No, I've never seen it.

778
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:27,870
Okay, now, it is a takeoff. It's
Paul Harvey. A bit. I don't

779
00:47:27,870 --> 00:47:33,930
know. I I was not around for the
original. The play you start

780
00:47:33,930 --> 00:47:38,280
with? Well, it's a it's a
takeoff on an orig. I don't know

781
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,450
there was an original Paul
Harvey, God made something,

782
00:47:42,690 --> 00:47:44,880
listen to it. And we can stop
because you'll probably

783
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,970
recognize the cadence and
everything. And this is

784
00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:52,500
something that I think someone
else made maybe, you know, the

785
00:47:52,620 --> 00:47:54,210
white Christians for Trump

786
00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:56,910
John C Dvorak: movement, some
main guy, anybody so

787
00:47:57,090 --> 00:47:59,550
Adam Curry: generic AI is good.

788
00:48:06,690 --> 00:48:10,560
Unknown: And on June 14 1946,
God looked down on his planned

789
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,850
paradise and said, I need a
caretaker. So God gave us Trump.

790
00:48:15,450 --> 00:48:18,960
God said, I need somebody
willing to get up before dawn,

791
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:20,850
Adam Curry: I think it
originally was God made the

792
00:48:20,850 --> 00:48:24,150
farmer I think that what that's
what the original was God made

793
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:25,920
the farmer, fix this

794
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,730
Unknown: country, work all day,
fight the Marxist each suffer,

795
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,510
then go to the Oval Office and
stay past midnight and a meeting

796
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:37,440
of the heads of state. So God
made Trump I need somebody with

797
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,880
arms strong enough to rustle the
deep state and yet gentle enough

798
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,080
to deliver his own grandchild.
Somebody to ruffle the feathers,

799
00:48:46,380 --> 00:48:51,270
tame cantankerous World Economic
Forum. Come home hungry. Have to

800
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:54,450
wait until the First Lady is
done with lunch with friends.

801
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:58,740
Then tell the ladies to be sure
and come back real soon. And

802
00:48:58,740 --> 00:49:03,750
mean it. So God gave us Trump? I
need somebody who can shape an

803
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:05,670
axe. But we okay. You

804
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:08,040
John C Dvorak: got all right
here it hit this. Yeah, if you

805
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,910
go to Paul Harvey, God made you
get there. God made a farmer. So

806
00:49:12,780 --> 00:49:13,110
I'll just

807
00:49:13,110 --> 00:49:15,690
Adam Curry: play a little bit.
Yeah, this is

808
00:49:16,830 --> 00:49:22,350
Unknown: and on the eighth day.
God looked down on his plan

809
00:49:22,350 --> 00:49:27,720
paradise and said I need a
caretaker. So God made a farmer.

810
00:49:27,930 --> 00:49:29,670
Yeah, there it is. God made a
farmer.

811
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,120
John C Dvorak: Okay, so there's
a mediocre copy of that. And now

812
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,670
that I hear the voice is not
even that great. No, Paul

813
00:49:38,670 --> 00:49:45,240
Harvey's he had a tremendous set
of pipes. They put Paul Harvey

814
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:48,600
Parra Javi what had been doing
these little radio snippets

815
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,160
forever and was the Christian
nationalists Magga guy I don't

816
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,370
know that he was any thing. I
had to look it up but but I

817
00:49:56,370 --> 00:49:59,310
remember the moment he was
definitely a conservative

818
00:49:59,310 --> 00:50:05,280
character. And I remember the
moment where Hewitt at 60

819
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,640
minutes decided to put him on
the show to add a little balance

820
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:15,960
that lasted all of like two
shows. Because the regulars on

821
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,250
that show are a bunch of you
know, lefties that has to CBS

822
00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:23,550
people. Yeah. And they just
wouldn't have it. They did I

823
00:50:23,550 --> 00:50:26,940
think they they made his life
miserable and poor

824
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:30,870
Adam Curry: Paul. And here's the
rest of the story. Paul Harvey,

825
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:35,550
John C Dvorak: I'm sure he got a
play a pay or play deal which

826
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:37,650
netted him some sort of care. So

827
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Adam Curry: I think this is when
it comes to Democrats. I can

828
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:44,610
just say it now in America is
the division has become so and

829
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,010
these are political people. I
mean, I'm not talking about

830
00:50:47,010 --> 00:50:52,380
people just vote left but the
political people Washoe County,

831
00:50:52,410 --> 00:50:55,800
Washoe County, Nevada. I think
it's Nevada, isn't it? Wash him.

832
00:50:55,860 --> 00:51:01,800
Yeah. Wash. Oh, that's Democrat
country, right? I don't know. I

833
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,590
think so. Don't they vote blue
or they vote blue. That blue

834
00:51:04,590 --> 00:51:04,860
name

835
00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:07,620
John C Dvorak: is mixed area to
get Nevada's mixed is pretty

836
00:51:07,620 --> 00:51:08,640
much down the middle. So

837
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,450
Adam Curry: they had the county
commission meeting and they

838
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,550
opened up with the consecration.
Thank you

839
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Unknown: for letting us here. My
name is Jason I am an organizer

840
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,260
and founder of Reno satanic. And
I'm here to give the invocation

841
00:51:22,260 --> 00:51:27,810
today invoking again in nom de
de no stress, say tennis looser,

842
00:51:27,810 --> 00:51:31,620
fatty X LLC, in the name of the
eternal rebel against high

843
00:51:31,620 --> 00:51:35,370
radical authority in the spirit
of your nature of the natural

844
00:51:35,370 --> 00:51:39,690
world, the freedoms of thought
and expression on prejudice,

845
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:44,460
intellectual inquiry, economics
and social progress to bring

846
00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:48,600
influence and guiding actions of
nobility and justice to the

847
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,400
decisions made in this chamber
today. To act with might in the

848
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,150
undertaking of responsibility
that may lay ahead of this body

849
00:51:57,150 --> 00:52:00,930
before us today. The New Age is
dawning that these decisions

850
00:52:00,930 --> 00:52:05,730
will play a role in for our
liberation for here and now is

851
00:52:05,730 --> 00:52:10,140
our day of joy. Here and now is
our opportunity. May we seize

852
00:52:10,140 --> 00:52:13,920
this glorious day and its
enchanting nights to celebrate

853
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,390
the wonders of the natural
world. As we are all part of its

854
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:22,290
boundless mysteries, and the
spirit of the unconquerable sun,

855
00:52:22,290 --> 00:52:26,160
the bringer of light and
knowledge we say Shem ham for OS

856
00:52:26,190 --> 00:52:27,210
hail satan.

857
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:36,510
John C Dvorak: All right. Okay,
you win the show. We have tannic

858
00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:40,920
ritual in front of the Washoe
County, whatever group this was

859
00:52:41,070 --> 00:52:45,840
planning commission or the
mission. Yes. So this guy comes

860
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,590
out and they let it they let him
do it. Of course. What is wrong

861
00:52:49,590 --> 00:52:51,840
with these? Idiots? They're

862
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,470
Adam Curry: Satanists. Not
today. Satan, we mock you. We

863
00:52:55,470 --> 00:53:01,380
mock you. Oh, my goodness. What
they should do? Hey, where's my

864
00:53:01,380 --> 00:53:04,950
generic AI doing? And Satan
created Biden. That will be

865
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:07,830
good. Who that?

866
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,480
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
that'd be a topper.

867
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:12,060
Adam Curry: That'd be a great
topper. Yeah. All of this. All

868
00:53:12,060 --> 00:53:14,850
of this, of course was really to
detract from what I thought was

869
00:53:14,850 --> 00:53:20,340
an outstanding rant from Vivek.
Kind of say it right, because

870
00:53:20,340 --> 00:53:24,060
you know, he's going for that VP
slot. Vivek. I think a lot of

871
00:53:24,060 --> 00:53:28,440
people would like Vivek, SVP, I
doubt he's going to be vice

872
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,550
president. No, no way. But this
was Trump behind him, smirking

873
00:53:32,550 --> 00:53:35,730
and laughing and smiling was a
great brand. And then

874
00:53:35,730 --> 00:53:40,020
John C Dvorak: they tried to hug
and they couldn't do it. By his

875
00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:43,110
brother, by the way, just before
we get to that clip, I wondered

876
00:53:43,110 --> 00:53:46,260
because I played those twos
Trump clips about, he's also

877
00:53:46,260 --> 00:53:49,890
doing it unfortunate. There's no
real clip for it. But he's also

878
00:53:49,890 --> 00:53:54,330
now part of his act. He does
Biden up on the stage can't

879
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,230
can't get off the stage, shaking
hands with nobody and then

880
00:53:58,230 --> 00:54:02,670
bumbling around and walking into
a set is great. He does a whole

881
00:54:02,670 --> 00:54:07,020
shtick on Biden trying to get
off this off this stage. Here we

882
00:54:07,020 --> 00:54:07,950
go. We believe

883
00:54:08,190 --> 00:54:11,040
Unknown: ideals still exist.
This man is going to be your

884
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:19,560
next president. revive them. E
pluribus unum from many one. And

885
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,020
you know how we're doing it.
We're doing it by seeking the

886
00:54:22,020 --> 00:54:27,450
truth at every step of the way.
There are two genders in this

887
00:54:27,450 --> 00:54:35,070
country. That is the truth.
Fossil fuels are a requirement

888
00:54:35,070 --> 00:54:40,050
for human prosperity drill,
frack, burn coal embrace nuclear

889
00:54:40,050 --> 00:54:45,840
energy. reverse racism is
racism. And open border is not a

890
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,550
border. Parents determined the
education of their children. The

891
00:54:50,550 --> 00:54:53,700
nuclear family is the greatest
form of governance known to

892
00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:58,950
mankind. Capitalism lifts us up
from poverty. There are three

893
00:54:58,950 --> 00:55:03,510
branches of government In the
United States not for and the US

894
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:07,740
Constitution is the strongest
and greatest guarantor of

895
00:55:07,740 --> 00:55:10,560
freedom in human history. That
is the truth.

896
00:55:11,969 --> 00:55:15,389
We fight for the truth.
Fantastic.

897
00:55:16,770 --> 00:55:18,660
Adam Curry: And more people are
starting to do this this

898
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:22,500
boldness we're seeing it
everywhere. Now people are no

899
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:26,610
longer afraid of speaking
against the woke stuff. There's

900
00:55:26,610 --> 00:55:30,840
just, I mean, it's everywhere
now. It's everywhere. So they

901
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,700
all this satanic trans Maoists
stuff is gonna fall apart it's

902
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:39,780
not working dei corporations
everywhere quietly changing

903
00:55:39,780 --> 00:55:44,040
their policy. This is not the
way to go anymore. But it was

904
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,420
that that no one wants to fly
United anymore. You know, the

905
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:52,110
CEO dresses up in drag and like
now Tinos like I'm gonna fly

906
00:55:52,110 --> 00:55:55,080
she's flying to front and floor
I'm not flying United States and

907
00:55:55,080 --> 00:56:02,670
my flying it is people are nuts.
So interesting. Oh, yes. The bud

908
00:56:02,670 --> 00:56:05,790
light effect it that was that's
definitely part of it.

909
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,800
Definitely, and then I won't
play a clip because it's just

910
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,760
full of expletives. But the EU
is a UFC fighter who got asked

911
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,690
by some Canadian woke
journalist. Now how do you feel

912
00:56:18,690 --> 00:56:21,570
about the trans community and
you know in Bud Light sponsoring

913
00:56:21,570 --> 00:56:27,180
the UFC but and he just went
off? Just went off is crazy. You

914
00:56:27,180 --> 00:56:30,810
know what, you know, in America.
This is for all you foreigners

915
00:56:30,810 --> 00:56:33,960
listening you foreigners that a
lot of you listen. In America,

916
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,590
we still it was gone for a long
time. And for a while there, it

917
00:56:37,590 --> 00:56:41,340
seemed like only the Russians
had humor. But you know, the

918
00:56:41,340 --> 00:56:45,120
Russians would do funny stuff.
This is before Ukraine. And they

919
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,300
had humor and there was the
humor that we used to have as

920
00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:51,720
Americans. We'd make fun of
ourselves. We love a good joke.

921
00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:56,070
We love a double entendre. We
this is why the boobs thing is

922
00:56:56,070 --> 00:57:00,150
very is you know, we love boobs
is an American thing. I guess.

923
00:57:00,930 --> 00:57:04,140
Although I think other countries
love boobs to Fort Wayne,

924
00:57:04,140 --> 00:57:09,270
Indiana. They have a they have a
building and they had a poll

925
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:13,290
amongst the citizens. What are
we going to name this thing? And

926
00:57:13,350 --> 00:57:17,910
they want to name it after a
famous Fort Wayne politician. I

927
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:22,770
think Harry balls be ALS. And
they held the poll and the

928
00:57:22,770 --> 00:57:24,180
results are in a former

929
00:57:24,180 --> 00:57:27,000
Unknown: Fort Wayne mayor is
getting some national attention.

930
00:57:27,180 --> 00:57:30,660
1000s of people voted online to
name the new city county

931
00:57:30,660 --> 00:57:31,740
building in his honor,

932
00:57:31,740 --> 00:57:35,610
but that probably won't happen
because of his name. NewsChannel

933
00:57:35,610 --> 00:57:38,310
fifteens Don Austin is here to
explain, Well,

934
00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:41,040
how they're marked. The people
voted and the top picks so far

935
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,700
with more than 10,000 votes is
the hairy balls Government

936
00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:47,910
Center, named after one of the
city's longest serving mayors,

937
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:50,640
but not everyone's on board with
that name.

938
00:57:50,700 --> 00:57:52,920
Harry bales apparently was a
great mayor. That's what I'm

939
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,380
hearing if you read the comments
actually people are very serious

940
00:57:55,380 --> 00:57:59,130
about what he did as mayor the
family was you know, it's

941
00:57:59,130 --> 00:58:00,900
part of our history. I think
it's part of the history we're

942
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:01,470
proud of

943
00:58:01,590 --> 00:58:03,870
to pick the new name for the
building people went over to

944
00:58:03,870 --> 00:58:07,920
feedback fort wayne.org They
made suggestions and voted the

945
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,250
overwhelming front runner was
the hairy balls government

946
00:58:11,250 --> 00:58:11,670
senator

947
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:16,470
Adam Curry: of course this is
who we are we're simple people

948
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,680
but we'd like a good joke we
want we want

949
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,600
John C Dvorak: the guy's name
was hairy balls what he is

950
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,380
supposed to do.

951
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:25,740
Adam Curry: We want it to be
called the hairy balls building

952
00:58:25,770 --> 00:58:29,820
everybody wants that. This is
who we are. This is where we are

953
00:58:33,870 --> 00:58:37,020
John C Dvorak: joy you giggly
glee?

954
00:58:37,020 --> 00:58:42,990
Adam Curry: Yes Glee, Glee.
Harry bone admits missed all of

955
00:58:43,350 --> 00:58:47,160
the horrible things in the
world. We got Satanists. Yeah.

956
00:58:47,730 --> 00:58:48,630
Satanism

957
00:58:48,810 --> 00:58:51,330
John C Dvorak: before meeting
this thing is too much.

958
00:58:52,050 --> 00:58:54,420
Adam Curry: Give us some hairy
balls to make us feel better

959
00:58:54,420 --> 00:58:56,190
please plays

960
00:58:57,180 --> 00:58:59,730
John C Dvorak: are you gonna
want to feel bad live in Chicago

961
00:58:59,790 --> 00:59:02,310
play this frozen Tesla clip. Oh

962
00:59:02,310 --> 00:59:05,670
Adam Curry: my god, this this
frozen Tesla clip was all I

963
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:09,720
mean, there were at least 15
different versions of

964
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,970
John C Dvorak: this bunch of
dead robots out here.

965
00:59:14,070 --> 00:59:17,100
Unknown: Did Teslas pack the
parking lot at this Tesla super

966
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:20,160
charging station in Oak Brook
have seen mirrored in other

967
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,550
supercharging stations around
the Chicago area. And it's it's

968
00:59:23,550 --> 00:59:28,860
crazy is this is a disaster
series. with temperatures

969
00:59:28,860 --> 00:59:31,980
falling into the negative double
digits. These charging ports

970
00:59:31,980 --> 00:59:35,430
have stopped charging, leaving
many Tesla owners stranded here

971
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:38,010
in long lines since Sunday.
Nothing

972
00:59:38,010 --> 00:59:41,130
no juice is put on 0%. And this
was like three hours this

973
00:59:41,130 --> 00:59:43,890
morning being out here after
eight hours yesterday

974
00:59:43,890 --> 00:59:46,560
as you've been charging. No not
at all. It's just isn't working.

975
00:59:46,650 --> 00:59:49,170
Adam Curry: And it's just
frozen. And so I'm now going to

976
00:59:49,170 --> 00:59:52,740
tow it to the justice service
center because that's my only

977
00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:56,220
option at this point. Oh man, I
got better clips than that. Come

978
00:59:56,220 --> 00:59:57,660
on. Come I like to

979
00:59:57,660 --> 01:00:00,300
John C Dvorak: know why every
black guy in Chicago lenses

980
01:00:00,330 --> 01:00:02,100
Tesla. How does that happen?
Well, there

981
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:04,020
Adam Curry: was one of these
guys who was an Uber drivers

982
01:00:04,020 --> 01:00:07,950
like nope, not anymore. Another
guys like the handles, you know

983
01:00:07,950 --> 01:00:11,640
how they recess in the Tesla?
They weren't they were frozen

984
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:12,870
shots. They weren't Pauling.

985
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,870
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that book
comes out I couldn't I couldn't

986
01:00:15,870 --> 01:00:17,880
Adam Curry: open my my car with
the app.

987
01:00:19,050 --> 01:00:21,660
Unknown: Electric vehicles may
save drivers on the cost of

988
01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:25,320
filling up. But this winter
growing frustrations for drivers

989
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,260
stuck waiting at charging
stations, but you still

990
01:00:28,260 --> 01:00:30,750
have to wait for those other
cars to get through charger

991
01:00:31,710 --> 01:00:33,720
didn't even get the charge.

992
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,320
Uber driver Marcus Campbell says
he spent hours this week

993
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,560
charging his car after freezing
temperatures swept across

994
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,250
Chicago,

995
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,560
making no money and time was
money.

996
01:00:43,740 --> 01:00:47,070
The problem the cars run on
lithium batteries which can take

997
01:00:47,070 --> 01:00:50,220
longer to charge and cold
temperatures, you may even need

998
01:00:50,220 --> 01:00:54,060
to charge more often. According
to AAA, the average electric

999
01:00:54,060 --> 01:00:58,530
vehicles driving range decreases
by 41%. When the temperature

1000
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:03,510
outside dips to 20 degrees and
when the cars heater or AC is on

1001
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,220
for each electric vehicle model
the EPA list of mileage but

1002
01:01:08,220 --> 01:01:10,350
experts say that number can be
misleading.

1003
01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:17,520
We've seen that that is wrong on
day one, and doesn't account for

1004
01:01:17,550 --> 01:01:22,950
weather variance. So EVs get
less range in the extreme cold

1005
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:25,350
and they get a little bit less
range in the extreme heat.

1006
01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:26,010
Experts

1007
01:01:26,010 --> 01:01:28,380
say especially when it's cold
drivers should keep their

1008
01:01:28,380 --> 01:01:33,840
vehicles charged overnight.
Ideally in a garage and below

1009
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,350
20%. If the battery drops to
zero, the car will have to be

1010
01:01:37,350 --> 01:01:41,310
towed and possibly repaired. In
Chicago, some Tow Truck

1011
01:01:41,310 --> 01:01:45,960
businesses getting a boost. Berg
says he's been busy in the cold,

1012
01:01:46,140 --> 01:01:50,040
we have seen an increase in
calls from a lot of different

1013
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,140
owners that have electric
vehicles.

1014
01:01:52,350 --> 01:01:55,560
While some learn to weather the
inconvenience for others, that

1015
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,210
challenges are too much.

1016
01:01:57,810 --> 01:02:01,770
I'll be getting the gas vehicle
ASAP. It's not for you. It's not

1017
01:02:01,770 --> 01:02:02,070
for me.

1018
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,610
Adam Curry: I love this little
guy. No response from Tesla. We

1019
01:02:05,610 --> 01:02:09,420
have a sophomore year since the
yesterday afternoon, no response

1020
01:02:09,420 --> 01:02:15,150
from Tesla. So here Tesla Of
course, if you read the User

1021
01:02:15,150 --> 01:02:20,490
Guide, which is right near the
EULA, and the terms of service

1022
01:02:21,540 --> 01:02:24,540
if you're if you're if these
people went to a super charging

1023
01:02:24,540 --> 01:02:26,880
station because of course you
know hey, you can charge it in

1024
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,480
40 minutes it's almost as fast
as filling up with gas.

1025
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,120
John C Dvorak: Yeah, if you're
filling up the gas at the lowest

1026
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,480
rate possible. The supercharger

1027
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,800
Adam Curry: will not work if
your battery is under 30%

1028
01:02:41,550 --> 01:02:44,850
Because of the supercharge the
battery has to be pre

1029
01:02:44,850 --> 01:02:48,420
conditioned and warmed up so
people that just don't know what

1030
01:02:48,420 --> 01:02:53,730
they're doing they don't you
have to have NCOP was oh you

1031
01:02:53,730 --> 01:02:58,380
have to precondition your
battery and set your GPS and you

1032
01:02:58,380 --> 01:03:01,140
know like the Watergate
secretary, you know click on the

1033
01:03:01,140 --> 01:03:05,220
left button and then this is not
a good idea. These cars are no

1034
01:03:05,220 --> 01:03:09,660
good then I'm not picking on
Tesla. I mean all of it it all

1035
01:03:09,660 --> 01:03:14,250
of us same it's fun the whole
idea is falling apart. This is

1036
01:03:14,250 --> 01:03:15,270
very bad. I

1037
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:18,240
John C Dvorak: want to remind I
wish I had the clip remind you

1038
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:22,740
of you doing annoying and watch
ruining over the bought you

1039
01:03:22,740 --> 01:03:24,060
borrowed the bankers?

1040
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:27,360
Adam Curry: No, I was horrible.
What are you talking about? I

1041
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,440
owe you I'm gonna get the clip
right now because I'll tell you

1042
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,250
what happened. I had to I
couldn't charge it at the hotel.

1043
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:40,320
So I had to drive to the
university. a&m to park in the

1044
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,860
garage and take an Uber back to
the hotel I'm quite sure I was

1045
01:03:43,860 --> 01:03:46,200
not booing and eyeing about how
cooler oh you

1046
01:03:46,410 --> 01:03:49,530
John C Dvorak: know how to use
automatic control you drive down

1047
01:03:49,530 --> 01:03:53,970
the freeway and be most
Cambridge users out there get me

1048
01:03:53,970 --> 01:03:54,780
these clips

1049
01:03:55,410 --> 01:03:58,710
Adam Curry: being a.io Everybody
John will be very live red

1050
01:03:58,710 --> 01:04:03,210
cheeks. I said is horrible to
have read almost drove me off

1051
01:04:03,210 --> 01:04:11,520
the road. Oh mass. Yes. Wow.
Wow. Yes, I remember. I do to

1052
01:04:11,550 --> 01:04:17,010
know. You remember? You don't
don't get me started. Do not

1053
01:04:17,010 --> 01:04:23,160
bring it.io You will see you're
in dimension d right now the

1054
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:27,900
comeback? What did you do with
John? I said what was definitely

1055
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:32,100
cool was that was how in traffic
Howard will automatically drive.

1056
01:04:32,310 --> 01:04:35,910
But all the downsides and the
white knuckle of coming back the

1057
01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:40,440
next day worrying that we didn't
have enough juice. I remember it

1058
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,650
very well. Yes,

1059
01:04:43,710 --> 01:04:46,110
John C Dvorak: I take the time
you turned on the machine was

1060
01:04:46,110 --> 01:04:48,780
when the bankers sold the car
saying you couldn't take it

1061
01:04:48,780 --> 01:04:50,370
anymore. Oh man.

1062
01:04:51,630 --> 01:04:54,690
Adam Curry: Oh, man. All right.
Not sorry. I have worked to do

1063
01:04:54,690 --> 01:04:57,240
it and producers don't even
bother.

1064
01:04:57,270 --> 01:05:00,600
John C Dvorak: I'll find users
don't listen to him. Don't

1065
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,630
Adam Curry: listen, because he's
right, as usual. No,

1066
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:05,010
John C Dvorak: not Oh,

1067
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,980
Adam Curry: man, I can't believe
that you're turning on me like

1068
01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:10,680
this. Yeah, this is not true.

1069
01:05:10,890 --> 01:05:13,170
John C Dvorak: I'm just
reminding you. I'm not turning.

1070
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,100
It's not true. The I Chevron
deference talking about

1071
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:17,910
gasoline.

1072
01:05:19,439 --> 01:05:21,569
Adam Curry: The Chevron
deference, does this explain

1073
01:05:21,569 --> 01:05:22,559
what Chevron deference is?

1074
01:05:22,590 --> 01:05:24,750
John C Dvorak: Yes. In fact,
this is a very complete report,

1075
01:05:24,750 --> 01:05:28,950
except for the fact that comes
from PBS. And it's slanted very

1076
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:32,910
subtly, though, it's not slanted
in a strong manner. But it's

1077
01:05:32,910 --> 01:05:36,180
slanted enough that I could
tell. And I think I have one

1078
01:05:36,180 --> 01:05:39,570
clip that's really short, which
points out part of the problem

1079
01:05:39,570 --> 01:05:42,690
and this is going up when you
set it up, or I'm going to set

1080
01:05:42,690 --> 01:05:47,970
it out by this case is fine.
This is about it by boat, a crew

1081
01:05:47,970 --> 01:05:52,410
of herring, herring fishermen
that took this case to the

1082
01:05:52,410 --> 01:05:54,210
Supreme Court because they
weren't going to put up with

1083
01:05:54,690 --> 01:05:56,250
require $700

1084
01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:00,450
Adam Curry: a day for $700 a day
to have some hire some douchebag

1085
01:06:00,450 --> 01:06:01,680
to be on the show they

1086
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,330
John C Dvorak: had they had to
pay for it. In other words,

1087
01:06:03,330 --> 01:06:07,260
they're paying for their own
inspect. It's like, it's like,

1088
01:06:08,070 --> 01:06:12,750
okay, I can the cops come by my
house once in a while. Yeah, you

1089
01:06:12,750 --> 01:06:13,620
have to pay well,

1090
01:06:13,620 --> 01:06:17,310
Adam Curry: but break it down.
The Chevron deference is the

1091
01:06:17,310 --> 01:06:22,620
idea that Congress writes very
broad and, and laws that can be

1092
01:06:22,620 --> 01:06:25,170
interpreted and they say, You
know what, the agencies can

1093
01:06:25,170 --> 01:06:28,410
interpret it, the agencies can
do whatever they want. And when

1094
01:06:28,410 --> 01:06:28,680
I say

1095
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,660
John C Dvorak: the eight Well,
no, it was it goes beyond that

1096
01:06:30,660 --> 01:06:34,290
the agencies can make their own
rule rules. Yes. Rules. Correct.

1097
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,060
And that's what we're dealing
with, which is the

1098
01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:39,060
administrative state. I'd work
for the Ministry of State

1099
01:06:39,060 --> 01:06:41,400
myself. I have a lot of
experience with this. You're a

1100
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:46,260
part of this machine. I was
Yeah. And curious. I was a

1101
01:06:46,260 --> 01:06:48,120
Democrat during that era, not
this.

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01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,020
Adam Curry: Did you ever change?
News?

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01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:55,230
John C Dvorak: Let's go with
this is a good breakdown. This

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01:06:55,230 --> 01:06:58,560
is a five six parter. It's very
short, though. Let's go with

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01:06:58,710 --> 01:07:00,570
Chevron deference. The Supreme

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01:07:00,570 --> 01:07:03,090
Unknown: Court today heard
arguments about whether a group

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01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:07,110
of Atlanta Atlantic herring
fishermen should be required to

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01:07:07,110 --> 01:07:10,170
pay for a costly monitoring
system on their boats, or

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01:07:10,170 --> 01:07:13,380
whether that requirement is
governmental overreach. But as

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01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:16,140
William Brangham reports, the
outcome of this case could have

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01:07:16,140 --> 01:07:21,480
enormous impacts far beyond the
fishing industry. At issue here

1112
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,690
is what's called the Chevron
deference. It's named after the

1113
01:07:24,690 --> 01:07:28,740
oil and gas company whose case
created this legal precedent. It

1114
01:07:28,740 --> 01:07:33,420
says if there is a dispute over
some ambiguous regulation, the

1115
01:07:33,420 --> 01:07:37,080
deference should go to the
government agency whose experts

1116
01:07:37,110 --> 01:07:40,020
wrote the rule. That's what
those fishermen are arguing

1117
01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:43,320
against. And they're being
supported by industry groups who

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01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:48,210
also want to curtail regulation.
If Chevron is knocked down, it

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01:07:48,210 --> 01:07:51,570
could up end rules governing
nearly every slice of American

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01:07:51,570 --> 01:07:54,690
society, health care,
environmental and workplace

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01:07:54,690 --> 01:07:58,590
protections, public education,
banking, and more that

1122
01:07:58,590 --> 01:07:59,910
Adam Curry: the end the IRS,

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01:08:01,980 --> 01:08:05,580
John C Dvorak: all of it, every
agency, lot of agencies, but the

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01:08:05,580 --> 01:08:07,770
way they're presenting it as
though it's the end of the

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01:08:07,770 --> 01:08:12,600
world. And there's also a very
subtle subtext here that doesn't

1126
01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:15,990
allow people to understand where
the Chevron deference came from,

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01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:23,520
which was the which was during
the Reagan administration, they

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01:08:23,550 --> 01:08:27,150
lowered the Reagan wanted less
and less regulation. So they

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01:08:27,150 --> 01:08:32,100
lowered they told the Vedas to
push back, no, you're not going

1130
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:35,280
to do that you're going to do
this, you're going to lower the

1131
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,650
rate you're going to make the
regulations more lacks are going

1132
01:08:37,650 --> 01:08:41,550
to make things easier. This
lawsuits came from environmental

1133
01:08:41,550 --> 01:08:45,480
groups saying Oh, no, you can't
do that. Because you know, this

1134
01:08:45,480 --> 01:08:50,010
is not good. And so they involve
Chevron. Because Chevron, I

1135
01:08:50,010 --> 01:08:52,620
don't know what part of Chevron
was involved. But whatever the

1136
01:08:52,620 --> 01:08:55,950
case was, this was about the
relaxing of rules, not the

1137
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:59,100
increase or craziness that's
going on now.

1138
01:08:59,130 --> 01:09:03,660
Adam Curry: It wasn't irony.
Good intent. Yeah. Iron. irony,

1139
01:09:03,660 --> 01:09:04,230
irony

1140
01:09:04,230 --> 01:09:08,490
John C Dvorak: is, is just is
that the max with this, and does

1141
01:09:08,490 --> 01:09:10,800
never discuss. Let's go with
part two. To

1142
01:09:10,799 --> 01:09:13,619
Unknown: understand what's at
stake. We're joined again by NPR

1143
01:09:13,619 --> 01:09:17,129
is Carrie Johnson, who was at
the court for today's arguments.

1144
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:21,089
Carrie, thank you so much for
being back again. Sticking with

1145
01:09:21,089 --> 01:09:24,869
this fishermen's case, can you
explain what the arguments were

1146
01:09:24,869 --> 01:09:28,559
in their case and how Chevron
was applied there.

1147
01:09:28,770 --> 01:09:31,920
These plaintiffs are a small
group of fishermen based in the

1148
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,850
northeastern United States. And
a few years ago, the Fisheries

1149
01:09:35,850 --> 01:09:39,240
Service put forward a
regulation, basically requiring

1150
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,390
them to have professional
observers or monitors on their

1151
01:09:42,390 --> 01:09:45,510
boats, sometimes on an overnight
basis to make sure they were

1152
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:49,080
following the rules, and decreed
that they should have to pay for

1153
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,340
the monitors to the tune of
about $700 a day, which they say

1154
01:09:53,340 --> 01:09:57,240
is just too much money, they say
was never clear that Congress

1155
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,930
intended for them to have to pay
and so they took This case all

1156
01:10:00,930 --> 01:10:04,200
the way to the Supreme Court
arguing that the federal agency

1157
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,940
here had overreached against
that

1158
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:09,420
Adam Curry: good for those
genocide. Are those eco ciders?

1159
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:10,770
Good for them?

1160
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,280
John C Dvorak: Yes, this case
has been bubbling in the

1161
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,520
background for a while. And I
believe that this is the reason

1162
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:22,380
that for one thing, if you
recall, six months to a year

1163
01:10:22,380 --> 01:10:25,470
ago, they started going after
Clarence Thomas. Yeah,

1164
01:10:25,470 --> 01:10:28,950
Adam Curry: we I think we even
discussed it in the context of

1165
01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:29,490
it. Yeah.

1166
01:10:29,490 --> 01:10:32,790
John C Dvorak: And so what I
uncovered is the fact that this

1167
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:38,220
all began when Clarence Thomas
decided he was all in on Chevron

1168
01:10:38,220 --> 01:10:39,150
deference. He,

1169
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,200
Adam Curry: ah, no. flipper,
he's a flip flopper.

1170
01:10:43,260 --> 01:10:45,300
John C Dvorak: And he decided,
well, maybe it is not such a

1171
01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:49,290
great thing, this Chevron
deference precedent. So once he

1172
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,930
once he and that changed, he's
Magga.

1173
01:10:53,940 --> 01:10:55,770
Adam Curry: He's a white
Christian. So

1174
01:10:56,940 --> 01:11:02,130
John C Dvorak: Christian
tonight. So once he it almost is

1175
01:11:02,130 --> 01:11:05,430
upon us a perfect coincidence
that when he made it clear that

1176
01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:08,790
he might be going the other way,
and Chevron deference, that's

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01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:13,290
when they start going. Yes. Your
administrative state at its

1178
01:11:13,290 --> 01:11:17,070
worst, it is nasty. It doesn't
like anybody interfering into

1179
01:11:17,070 --> 01:11:20,940
what it's doing. It likes to run
the show. Part three,

1180
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:25,590
Unknown: I see. So in that case,
Chevron, the ruling was that the

1181
01:11:25,590 --> 01:11:28,230
government agency wrote this
rule, yes, it might be onerous

1182
01:11:28,230 --> 01:11:31,350
on the fishermen. But that's the
rule. And the agency gets to

1183
01:11:31,350 --> 01:11:32,790
determine that. That's

1184
01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:36,960
right. I in the in this case,
the lower courts determined that

1185
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:41,460
it was either a reasonable or a
clear mandate under the law that

1186
01:11:41,460 --> 01:11:44,730
these fishermen would have to
pay. They firmly resisted that,

1187
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,850
and took this case all the way
up to the Supreme Court where it

1188
01:11:47,850 --> 01:11:49,620
ended up today. So you can

1189
01:11:49,620 --> 01:11:55,080
see why business interests don't
like this idea of some agency

1190
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,710
basically winning every toss up
ball over a fight over

1191
01:11:58,710 --> 01:12:02,550
regulation. What is their
broader argument about this

1192
01:12:02,700 --> 01:12:04,140
deference principle,

1193
01:12:04,350 --> 01:12:08,850
ultimately, they say that this
is a matter of the executive

1194
01:12:08,850 --> 01:12:12,150
branch of the government on
elected federal bureaucrats

1195
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,210
taking power that should belong
to the United States Congress,

1196
01:12:15,210 --> 01:12:18,660
and to some extent to federal
judges, who all along have

1197
01:12:18,660 --> 01:12:22,140
interpreted the law and who can
interpret these laws and these

1198
01:12:22,140 --> 01:12:25,950
regulations just fine on their
own, without any input from

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01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:30,390
federal agencies. And they say
that for many years now, almost

1200
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:35,310
40 of them since this case was
decided back in 1984. It's

1201
01:12:35,310 --> 01:12:38,670
really up ended the balance of
power between the branches. And

1202
01:12:38,670 --> 01:12:42,990
it's put a lot of onus on small
businesses like these fishermen

1203
01:12:42,990 --> 01:12:47,160
and others, to defend themselves
against federal agencies when

1204
01:12:47,580 --> 01:12:52,170
they have a hard time winning
their you know, this case, was

1205
01:12:52,170 --> 01:12:56,040
supported not just by the small
fishing industries, but a number

1206
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,730
of very large conservative legal
foundations, groups like The Gun

1207
01:12:59,730 --> 01:13:04,230
Owners of America, a trade group
for e cigarette manufacturers

1208
01:13:04,230 --> 01:13:08,670
and others, just showing how
sweeping this case could be if

1209
01:13:08,670 --> 01:13:11,070
the Supreme Court ultimately
decides to overrule that

1210
01:13:11,070 --> 01:13:12,810
precedent from all those years
ago.

1211
01:13:13,050 --> 01:13:16,710
Adam Curry: Okay, I have a
question. So when you were in

1212
01:13:16,710 --> 01:13:24,540
the government, and a Democrat
Did you feel like you were

1213
01:13:24,540 --> 01:13:29,880
powerful as as a member of the
deep state that you had this

1214
01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:34,170
power to, to mess around with a
little guy and to boss him

1215
01:13:34,170 --> 01:13:36,960
around and tell him what to do
because you're with the EPA?

1216
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:38,850
There were definite

1217
01:13:38,850 --> 01:13:42,420
John C Dvorak: Well, we were
that good regional pollution

1218
01:13:42,420 --> 01:13:43,140
operator that's

1219
01:13:43,140 --> 01:13:45,660
Adam Curry: even better. So you
were the little regional guy but

1220
01:13:45,660 --> 01:13:47,310
still had the Chevron deference

1221
01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:49,920
John C Dvorak: regional guys are
always considered the more

1222
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:58,320
powerful the groups right. I was
not it I was kind of amenable I

1223
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,680
worked in the refinery business
and I knew how these things

1224
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:08,070
work. There were guys that work
in the agency. Absolutely. Were

1225
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:11,130
a little Hitler's the SA and
they would make people's life

1226
01:14:11,130 --> 01:14:13,230
miserable. Because they could
tell us again,

1227
01:14:13,260 --> 01:14:15,420
Adam Curry: just quickly, just
because it's so nice. Tell us

1228
01:14:15,420 --> 01:14:17,370
the story about Dianne Feinstein

1229
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:23,610
John C Dvorak: Come on. Dianne
Feinstein was a member of the of

1230
01:14:23,610 --> 01:14:28,590
the one of the boards that that
oversaw the air pollution

1231
01:14:28,590 --> 01:14:33,750
distributel Hitler Hitler arena.
So she was and she was a dingbat

1232
01:14:33,900 --> 01:14:39,000
and everybody knew it and right
to the end and so she so we had

1233
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,970
the situation in the file room,
there was a

1234
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,950
Adam Curry: I already love I
forgot the file room part. Yeah.

1235
01:14:47,700 --> 01:14:50,340
John C Dvorak: So this is file
room which is also connected to

1236
01:14:50,340 --> 01:14:56,040
the dispatchers and the
dispatchers. Were in this like

1237
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,590
kind of a closed group so they
like to keep the door open

1238
01:14:58,590 --> 01:15:01,200
because it was like a pain In
the essays they felt like they

1239
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,800
were like you know a
claustrophobic and the door was

1240
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,070
also led to the fire file room
and when you went to get some

1241
01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:10,740
files for some case or other
you're supposed to sign out on

1242
01:15:10,740 --> 01:15:15,630
some little sheet and the
dispatchers had really nothing

1243
01:15:15,630 --> 01:15:19,110
to do with it. But they were
overseas supposed to sign these

1244
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:22,290
sheets and take the files when
people started just grabbing

1245
01:15:22,290 --> 01:15:27,390
files and not taking the sheets
and so they had to go okay,

1246
01:15:27,390 --> 01:15:31,140
we're gonna have to do something
about that. So they showed the

1247
01:15:31,140 --> 01:15:33,900
open door that the dispatchers
definitely wanted to have

1248
01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:38,100
because it was claustrophobic
they they put a chain across the

1249
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:42,000
open door to keep people from
going in and out of the file

1250
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,460
room and just grabbing files so
they have to now go through a

1251
01:15:44,460 --> 01:15:45,150
process to

1252
01:15:45,150 --> 01:15:47,190
Adam Curry: get the file right
this wasn't Feinstein this was

1253
01:15:47,190 --> 01:15:49,260
boxer wasn't a boxer no no

1254
01:15:49,260 --> 01:15:51,810
John C Dvorak: this fine. Fine
boxers. Boxers got another

1255
01:15:51,810 --> 01:15:55,410
story. Oh, boxers The one is
always trying to have a

1256
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,490
different story. Yeah, the SEC
story. Yeah, that one. So

1257
01:15:59,490 --> 01:16:03,150
Feinstein so that so now we have
the situation you got the

1258
01:16:03,150 --> 01:16:07,440
dispatchers in there, and you
have the chain across the door.

1259
01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:10,950
And so Feinstein walks past
without even doing any research

1260
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:13,590
or giving she looks at the desk
sees the two women in there.

1261
01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:16,890
They're the dispatchers that
sees the chain, and she makes a

1262
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:21,870
big fuss. Why are these women in
behind a chain? This is

1263
01:16:21,870 --> 01:16:27,630
terrible. This is an insult to
womanhood. And so she makes a

1264
01:16:27,630 --> 01:16:31,080
big fuss and so they have to
take the chain down but now the

1265
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:35,010
problem with the fall room is is
still at issue so they have to

1266
01:16:35,010 --> 01:16:38,760
close the doors and now they're
locked in this claustrophobic

1267
01:16:39,180 --> 01:16:43,260
area ruining their lives
basically. Thanks for nothing

1268
01:16:43,260 --> 01:16:47,880
Dianne Feinstein. So that's the
kind of person she is she's just

1269
01:16:48,030 --> 01:16:48,960
jumped to conclusions.

1270
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,390
Adam Curry: Boxer was the one
who wanted to get in your boxer

1271
01:16:51,390 --> 01:16:51,990
shorts.

1272
01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:56,430
John C Dvorak: Boxer was
notorious. Everybody who was an

1273
01:16:56,430 --> 01:17:00,240
inspector was in the field and
had cars she would always find

1274
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,640
some one of the guys happen to
be working Marin County or

1275
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,660
something and try to I was told,
try to not only get them to

1276
01:17:06,660 --> 01:17:09,060
drive her home, she didn't play
them in.

1277
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:12,060
Adam Curry: Didn't she want you
to drive around one day panky?

1278
01:17:12,090 --> 01:17:17,550
Why didn't she want you to drive
her home one day?

1279
01:17:17,580 --> 01:17:19,950
John C Dvorak: No, I've never I
never got off. I never had that

1280
01:17:19,950 --> 01:17:22,980
area. I couldn't have driven her
home. Oh, okay. I never worked

1281
01:17:22,980 --> 01:17:24,810
in Marin County. Wow, this

1282
01:17:24,810 --> 01:17:27,180
Adam Curry: was good. Thanks.
Thanks for the Feinstein

1283
01:17:27,210 --> 01:17:29,880
reminder. So so so basically,
though,

1284
01:17:29,940 --> 01:17:32,430
John C Dvorak: yes, the SEC was
the beginning of the longer than

1285
01:17:32,430 --> 01:17:34,500
it should and that's good. The
answer is

1286
01:17:34,620 --> 01:17:37,170
Adam Curry: especially at the at
the local level with the smaller

1287
01:17:37,170 --> 01:17:42,540
regional offices. There's a lot
of power power gnomes.

1288
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,120
John C Dvorak: Now, yeah,
absolutely. Like

1289
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,650
Adam Curry: Louis from taxi, you
know,

1290
01:17:48,450 --> 01:17:51,240
John C Dvorak: is exactly true.
And there's no way you have to

1291
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,730
assume that let's go to clip for
this very short clip because I

1292
01:17:53,730 --> 01:17:54,990
gotta make a comment on it.

1293
01:17:55,050 --> 01:17:56,700
Unknown: Let's talk a little bit
about that. Because the

1294
01:17:56,700 --> 01:18:00,750
opponents of of overturning
Chevron many environmental

1295
01:18:00,750 --> 01:18:03,570
groups, consumer protection
groups and others like that.

1296
01:18:04,530 --> 01:18:05,040
Okay.

1297
01:18:06,210 --> 01:18:08,940
John C Dvorak: Consumer
Protection you man, I forgot

1298
01:18:08,940 --> 01:18:13,620
what I was going to say. So I'm
gonna do it the environmental

1299
01:18:13,620 --> 01:18:15,420
groups because there's the
that's where I should have

1300
01:18:15,420 --> 01:18:18,330
brought in the irony part of the
story. They're the ones who

1301
01:18:18,330 --> 01:18:22,560
caused this to happen. Chevron
deference, as you know, as was

1302
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,460
caused against the environmental
groups Hey, what the

1303
01:18:26,460 --> 01:18:29,730
deregulation that take place,
but now they're all in on it. So

1304
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:32,640
Adam Curry: indirectly, to think
Bobby, the OP was actually a

1305
01:18:32,670 --> 01:18:35,670
problem within Chevron deference
because he was one of these

1306
01:18:35,670 --> 01:18:36,870
environmental groups.

1307
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,070
John C Dvorak: I have my you
know, after seeing David people

1308
01:18:41,070 --> 01:18:43,800
should go read this article
about Cheryl Hines and the

1309
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,270
latest copy of The Hollywood
Reporter Hollywood reporter.com

1310
01:18:48,270 --> 01:18:52,080
Go to thr.com and read it. It
really brings out a lot of the

1311
01:18:52,110 --> 01:18:57,240
op. I mean, when she says well,
you know, she makes us you just

1312
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,990
comment you have to assume
something's up when she says

1313
01:19:00,990 --> 01:19:03,810
that do other Republicans are
running our rapist.

1314
01:19:06,510 --> 01:19:08,850
Adam Curry: She says that in the
interview. Yeah,

1315
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,700
John C Dvorak: more or less it
is worded it's couched funny,

1316
01:19:11,700 --> 01:19:18,090
but that's basically what she
said. And on trial for rapes, I

1317
01:19:18,090 --> 01:19:22,170
think is the way she put it. But
this is like okay, this is Bobby

1318
01:19:22,170 --> 01:19:25,020
The Op I'm now convinced after
reading that article in The

1319
01:19:25,050 --> 01:19:28,770
Hollywood Reporter that probably
the OP is designed to run

1320
01:19:29,370 --> 01:19:33,840
Kennedy as an independent to
take votes away from Trump as a

1321
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,560
latch last ditch effort by the
Democrats to get Biden back in

1322
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,230
that's the only thing I can have
to conclude after reading that

1323
01:19:40,230 --> 01:19:46,620
article. So I'm very skeptical
of him okay. All right, onward

1324
01:19:46,620 --> 01:19:48,000
with the clip five

1325
01:19:48,090 --> 01:19:51,210
Unknown: of overturning Chevron
many environmental groups,

1326
01:19:51,210 --> 01:19:54,540
consumer protection groups and
others like that. argue that

1327
01:19:54,540 --> 01:19:58,410
this would would in essence, sow
chaos. What is their argument?

1328
01:19:58,410 --> 01:20:01,620
Why do they say Chevron should
Stay, they basically

1329
01:20:01,620 --> 01:20:04,350
argued that there's a hidden
agenda in this case beyond the

1330
01:20:04,530 --> 01:20:07,350
the hearing fishermen who are
the plaintiffs here, and that

1331
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:12,330
it's they want to paralyze or
cripple the bureaucracy so that

1332
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:17,430
federal agencies cannot make
rules on major problems and

1333
01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:21,060
American life, things from air
pollution and maybe eventually

1334
01:20:21,060 --> 01:20:24,480
even artificial intelligence as
Justice Elena Kagan raised

1335
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:28,290
today, why to health care, and
say if you return these

1336
01:20:28,290 --> 01:20:31,890
decisions to the hands of
unelected federal judges, there

1337
01:20:31,890 --> 01:20:35,340
are something like 800 of them
around the country. It risks

1338
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:40,050
people's Medicare and Medicaid
programs, very complex programs

1339
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,560
that mean a lot to people's
lives being decided one way in

1340
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:47,790
one state and one way in in
another way in another state,

1341
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:52,470
and that could really sow chaos
for for people's lives, just in

1342
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:55,410
their personal pocketbooks, as
well as for environmental

1343
01:20:55,410 --> 01:20:58,590
regulations and workplace
protections. You just can't have

1344
01:20:58,590 --> 01:21:02,040
a system where the regs mean
something in one state and mean

1345
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,710
something else halfway around
the country.

1346
01:21:06,330 --> 01:21:09,180
John C Dvorak: Okay, so that's
that's the one thing they never

1347
01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:12,600
do is stop and say, Wait a
minute. Yeah, Chevron deference

1348
01:21:12,630 --> 01:21:18,120
showed up in 1984. How did we
even get by as a people without

1349
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:19,740
What 1984

1350
01:21:19,950 --> 01:21:22,080
Adam Curry: What are we doing it
did nothing work? Did

1351
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,950
John C Dvorak: it work and it
couldn't possibly work? So this

1352
01:21:25,950 --> 01:21:29,040
is bull crap. They're just
trying to do the same. Oh,

1353
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:34,560
scary. Oh, scare everybody to
dead easy BBB. So anyway, so

1354
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,080
there's the last time this
brings in Comey Barrett?

1355
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:37,800
Barrett.

1356
01:21:38,370 --> 01:21:41,910
Unknown: I know that in his
confirmation hearings, now

1357
01:21:41,910 --> 01:21:45,270
justice Gorsuch expressed a
great deal of skepticism. And I

1358
01:21:45,270 --> 01:21:48,390
know some other conservative
justices similarly have shown

1359
01:21:48,630 --> 01:21:51,870
some antipathy to regulation.
From your reading of the

1360
01:21:51,870 --> 01:21:55,230
arguments today. What is your
sense? Do you think the majority

1361
01:21:55,230 --> 01:21:57,930
the conservative majority is
going to strike it down?

1362
01:21:58,140 --> 01:22:02,160
We did hear deep skepticism from
Justice Neil Neil Gorsuch today,

1363
01:22:02,340 --> 01:22:05,010
he raised a lot of very, very
tough questions for the

1364
01:22:05,010 --> 01:22:08,190
Solicitor General. And Justice
Brett Kavanaugh was also pretty

1365
01:22:08,190 --> 01:22:12,090
skeptical. Justice Samuel Alito,
along the same lines, and

1366
01:22:12,090 --> 01:22:15,390
Clarence Thomas asked a few
questions too, but those William

1367
01:22:15,390 --> 01:22:18,690
are four votes, and I didn't
hear a clear fifth vote for

1368
01:22:18,690 --> 01:22:21,720
getting rid of this precedent
altogether. In fact, one of the

1369
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,900
Trump appointees justice Amy
Coney Barrett, raised the

1370
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:28,680
specter of getting rid of this
precedent might mean, inviting

1371
01:22:28,860 --> 01:22:33,750
floodgates of litigation from
1000s of litigants who've had

1372
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:36,840
their cases decided based on
this principle over many years,

1373
01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:39,300
and that really swamping the
courts and potentially the

1374
01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:42,990
Justice Department, too. So it's
not clear to me there are five

1375
01:22:42,990 --> 01:22:47,220
votes to overturn this precedent
all together. It may be that the

1376
01:22:47,220 --> 01:22:51,120
court compromises it chips away
further at the precedent,

1377
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:51,360
though.

1378
01:22:52,260 --> 01:22:56,550
Adam Curry: Well, that aligns
very closely with what Rob the

1379
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:59,190
constitutional lawyer sent me
because I asked him, of course,

1380
01:22:59,190 --> 01:23:02,070
and he said, Of course, I'm
going to I'm going to pay

1381
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:05,730
attention to this for you guys.
I'll read and he also gave me

1382
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:10,500
something from law 360. That is
highlighted some stuff. Here's

1383
01:23:10,500 --> 01:23:13,350
what he said. As his boots on
the ground. I went back and

1384
01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:15,720
looked at some of the commentary
on the two Chevron deference

1385
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,960
cases argued before SCOTUS
yesterday, the Loper bright

1386
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,560
enterprise versus Raimundo and
relentless Inc versus Department

1387
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,470
of Commerce. As you know, the
question is yours just how much

1388
01:23:25,470 --> 01:23:28,590
deference the court should give
to regulatory agencies

1389
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,040
interpretations of the
legislation? They're in charge

1390
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:36,180
of enforcing since 1984? The
answer has been a lot. As long

1391
01:23:36,180 --> 01:23:39,060
as the agency's interpretation
is permissible courts will adopt

1392
01:23:39,060 --> 01:23:42,450
it as law. This creates a
tension. The Constitution

1393
01:23:42,450 --> 01:23:45,450
charges Congress with making
laws and the judiciary with

1394
01:23:45,450 --> 01:23:48,990
interpreting them. It does not
charge the executive branch with

1395
01:23:49,020 --> 01:23:52,470
either function. Still, the
agencies who presumably have the

1396
01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:55,920
expertise usually need to fill
in lots of details to do their

1397
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,740
jobs. But how deeply should the
courts bow to their

1398
01:23:58,740 --> 01:24:02,370
interpretations? He said,
depending on who you talk to the

1399
01:24:02,370 --> 01:24:05,280
word is that most of the
justices seem reluctantly

1400
01:24:05,310 --> 01:24:09,570
amenable to diluting Chevron
deference but how much many

1401
01:24:09,570 --> 01:24:12,780
including Justice Barrett,
worried that SCOTUS decision

1402
01:24:12,780 --> 01:24:16,560
might gut the existing agency
interpretations, unleashing a

1403
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,310
flood of litigation over now
reopened questions others say

1404
01:24:20,430 --> 01:24:23,610
this concern is overblown, since
one most of the agency

1405
01:24:23,610 --> 01:24:26,520
interpretations are probably
right and two, if not they need

1406
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:31,590
to be challenged. And he says he
attached a highlighted law 360

1407
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:35,010
With five takeaways from Paul
Clemente and I put that in the

1408
01:24:35,010 --> 01:24:38,370
show notes. In a nutshell
Clemente says the Congressman

1409
01:24:38,370 --> 01:24:42,930
can use friends in the executive
branch to get things done,

1410
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:49,740
instead of slogging through the
presentment compromise in by

1411
01:24:49,740 --> 01:24:54,270
camera realism hurdles that make
statutes comparatively hard to

1412
01:24:54,270 --> 01:24:58,230
enact. To paraphrase Obama
regulatory action requires

1413
01:24:58,230 --> 01:25:03,660
nothing more than a phone and a
pen. And so they actually that

1414
01:25:03,660 --> 01:25:07,200
sounded like that report was was
pretty spot on. And they proud.

1415
01:25:07,260 --> 01:25:11,160
I think they'll dilute it. But
they'll do something so they

1416
01:25:11,190 --> 01:25:17,310
somehow they can't get all these
all these lawsuits reopened

1417
01:25:17,310 --> 01:25:20,490
again. I don't know how they do
that.

1418
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:24,840
John C Dvorak: But well, we'll
find out soon enough, but this

1419
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,700
thing should go. Oh,

1420
01:25:27,330 --> 01:25:30,870
Adam Curry: what what a joy it
would be for, for the work.

1421
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,480
John C Dvorak: By the way, when
I worked at the, at this

1422
01:25:33,480 --> 01:25:36,450
administrative state, and they
already were lording it over

1423
01:25:36,450 --> 01:25:39,810
everybody else. That was before
Chevron deference.

1424
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,680
Adam Curry: Oh, is that long
ago? So you were already a

1425
01:25:43,710 --> 01:25:47,160
little Hitler's before it that
happened? Imagine what

1426
01:25:48,420 --> 01:25:51,660
John C Dvorak: all the way I see
it. Chevron deference once the

1427
01:25:51,660 --> 01:25:54,420
Republicans got out of office,
because when the Republicans

1428
01:25:54,420 --> 01:25:57,390
were in office, don't forget,
the Chevron deference began as a

1429
01:25:57,390 --> 01:26:01,680
way to deregulate. That's the
funny part. That's the irony.

1430
01:26:02,100 --> 01:26:05,280
And then once they got out the
this is the problem with

1431
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,490
everything is, you know, you
switch parties, and the next

1432
01:26:08,490 --> 01:26:11,370
thing you know, they go nuts the
other way. And they started

1433
01:26:11,370 --> 01:26:15,510
abusing power, which is what's
been going on this is why the

1434
01:26:15,690 --> 01:26:20,310
gun shops get closed. Because
the the ATF and others they

1435
01:26:20,730 --> 01:26:24,390
create new rules. And there's
stories about some gun shop

1436
01:26:24,390 --> 01:26:28,290
owner that forgot to put a Yeah,
yeah. And they closed the shop.

1437
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,920
Yeah, got to sign his name
properly, or print his name

1438
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,940
under a signature. And so they
close the shop. All this is all

1439
01:26:35,940 --> 01:26:39,240
a result of Chevron deference.
Everything bad that's happening

1440
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,990
in the administrative state is
the is the fault of Chevron

1441
01:26:42,990 --> 01:26:47,610
deference again, 1984 It's when
it began. And it's just gotten

1442
01:26:47,610 --> 01:26:51,480
to the point where it's gotta
go. And if there's cases if a

1443
01:26:51,480 --> 01:26:54,090
bunch of cases show up because
Comey Baird doesn't want to do

1444
01:26:54,090 --> 01:26:57,390
any work. Or she's just you
know, still thinking like a

1445
01:26:57,390 --> 01:26:58,650
judge that's out there. Leave

1446
01:26:58,650 --> 01:27:01,080
Adam Curry: it she she's the
only true white Christian there.

1447
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,500
She should be all Magga is
what's wrong with her.

1448
01:27:05,940 --> 01:27:08,400
John C Dvorak: That's always the
irony of these things. I would

1449
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:08,670
like to

1450
01:27:08,670 --> 01:27:11,700
Adam Curry: take us back to
Episode 1337 of this very

1451
01:27:11,700 --> 01:27:16,590
podcast. Have a listen to
minutes. This funny do that.

1452
01:27:16,590 --> 01:27:21,150
Okay, great. So I get in the car
and I driven it before I'm

1453
01:27:21,150 --> 01:27:24,540
sitting down and he drives off
in the truck. I'm like, I forgot

1454
01:27:24,540 --> 01:27:28,890
how to start this thing. That's
how stupid it was, like, already

1455
01:27:28,890 --> 01:27:31,830
starts off the car is stupid.
You don't have to start it. You

1456
01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:34,680
just got to put it into Drive. I
can I was looking for a button.

1457
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,900
You know, like my truck has a
button. You press the button,

1458
01:27:36,900 --> 01:27:41,700
the car starts. So that's how
disoriented I was. But anyway, I

1459
01:27:41,700 --> 01:27:44,940
remember how it works. I started
driving and he left me with

1460
01:27:44,940 --> 01:27:52,110
about it said 200 miles on the
on the range the range meter. So

1461
01:27:52,110 --> 01:27:55,110
I started driving. Now this is a
multiple

1462
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:58,590
John C Dvorak: you stopped this
clip. You're you referenced in

1463
01:27:58,590 --> 01:28:01,860
that clip that you're just
starting to play. I've driven it

1464
01:28:01,860 --> 01:28:05,220
before. That's the report where
you went on and on about how

1465
01:28:05,220 --> 01:28:08,670
great it was not the second
report or the third report or

1466
01:28:08,670 --> 01:28:13,620
what you say today. So this is a
nonsense what you're doing.

1467
01:28:13,650 --> 01:28:17,490
Adam Curry: I never did a report
other than this one. No.

1468
01:28:18,810 --> 01:28:21,870
John C Dvorak: I've you first
drove it you do gave a report.

1469
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:26,490
Adam Curry: All right. I'll just
put it in the show notes. People

1470
01:28:26,490 --> 01:28:28,350
can listen for themselves.
You're right. I probably

1471
01:28:28,350 --> 01:28:29,670
shouldn't embarrass you any
further.

1472
01:28:30,750 --> 01:28:32,040
John C Dvorak: Not an
embarrassment. You're just

1473
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,610
proving my point. No, there is
no report in that report. You

1474
01:28:35,610 --> 01:28:38,880
yourself said I've driven it
before and blah blah blah.

1475
01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:41,520
That's when that's when the
first report came out because

1476
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,800
you talked about driving it the
first time you are

1477
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,890
Adam Curry: mediocre. This is
not true. This is the report

1478
01:28:46,890 --> 01:28:50,580
where I said the thing is
dangerous. I said it almost ran

1479
01:28:50,580 --> 01:28:52,800
me off the road it was horrible.
That's

1480
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:56,670
John C Dvorak: right and I'm not
arguing but this report is what

1481
01:28:56,670 --> 01:28:57,690
I'm talking about are

1482
01:28:57,690 --> 01:29:00,300
Adam Curry: people find find the
previous report because it

1483
01:29:00,300 --> 01:29:03,030
doesn't exist. They will the
only report

1484
01:29:03,060 --> 01:29:04,800
John C Dvorak: is rarely
Moonbase as they'll find it.

1485
01:29:04,830 --> 01:29:05,040
Yeah.

1486
01:29:08,730 --> 01:29:11,280
Adam Curry: Boy, you really hurt
me with that one Oof. Boy,

1487
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,280
Israeli Moonbase is that

1488
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,620
John C Dvorak: you are in denial
about that for God at least a

1489
01:29:16,620 --> 01:29:18,570
year. I've

1490
01:29:18,570 --> 01:29:21,120
Adam Curry: never said that.
I've never gone back on that.

1491
01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:24,270
I've always said there was
Israeli Moon bases I've never

1492
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:24,990
said

1493
01:29:24,990 --> 01:29:27,120
John C Dvorak: There you go
shabby never. Everyone knows

1494
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:28,590
what you're doing. Nice try.

1495
01:29:30,330 --> 01:29:33,390
Adam Curry: How about we talk
about the latest scare that is

1496
01:29:33,390 --> 01:29:38,520
has everybody all up in arms?
Because it's back. It's back

1497
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:43,710
disease X disease X is back and
the Chinese are doing it disease

1498
01:29:43,710 --> 01:29:46,830
Unknown: X is a term for a
hypothetical illness, one that

1499
01:29:46,830 --> 01:29:49,830
has not happened and is
currently unknown. In this

1500
01:29:49,830 --> 01:29:53,280
scenario, experts from around
the globe are evaluating what

1501
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,760
would happen and what we would
need to do in order to prepare

1502
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,690
for a virus that could claim up
to 20 times more law is the

1503
01:30:00,690 --> 01:30:05,550
COVID 19 pandemic. in Davos, the
disease X scenario took center

1504
01:30:05,550 --> 01:30:07,110
stage Wednesday, you may

1505
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:14,910
even call COVID as the first
disease X. And it may happen

1506
01:30:14,910 --> 01:30:16,170
again, the WHO

1507
01:30:16,170 --> 01:30:19,050
Director General acknowledges
tough lessons were learned

1508
01:30:19,050 --> 01:30:20,310
during COVID-19.

1509
01:30:20,820 --> 01:30:24,390
We lost many people because we
couldn't manage them. They could

1510
01:30:24,390 --> 01:30:27,330
have been saved, but they
couldn't marry them. There's no

1511
01:30:27,330 --> 01:30:30,930
space, there was no enough. So
how can you have a system that

1512
01:30:30,930 --> 01:30:33,330
can expand when the need comes?
This

1513
01:30:33,330 --> 01:30:36,480
bioethics professor says the
pandemic showed us how one

1514
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:40,470
disease absorbing all available
resources can lead to other

1515
01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:42,750
health issues falling through
the cracks.

1516
01:30:43,170 --> 01:30:46,050
A cancer diagnosis did not take
place with very severe

1517
01:30:46,050 --> 01:30:47,910
consequences for the people that
were affected.

1518
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,660
Blink says there are also
ethical questions to consider

1519
01:30:51,690 --> 01:30:54,420
when preparing for the next big
health emergency.

1520
01:30:54,540 --> 01:30:58,530
Do we try to limit the number of
of lives that we lose? Or do we

1521
01:30:58,530 --> 01:31:01,170
limit the number of life years
that we lose? To what extent

1522
01:31:01,170 --> 01:31:04,410
should we be concerned about
equity considerations or we're

1523
01:31:04,410 --> 01:31:05,940
just concerned about health
outcomes?

1524
01:31:06,180 --> 01:31:09,090
he cautions Canada is not ready.
There will be

1525
01:31:09,090 --> 01:31:11,250
wholly unprepared for this
because we are under resourced.

1526
01:31:11,250 --> 01:31:14,280
We don't have the staff and we
don't have the bits available.

1527
01:31:14,310 --> 01:31:15,990
So it will be a major problem
obviously,

1528
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,380
anything happening is a matter
of when not if

1529
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:24,270
Adam Curry: so, so this is
picked up by outfits around the

1530
01:31:24,270 --> 01:31:27,540
world because now we have a
report there's an actual report

1531
01:31:27,540 --> 01:31:31,950
someone has a report and gravi
toss India this is where Paki

1532
01:31:31,950 --> 01:31:36,840
palki Sharma is used to work
they've got the the crux of it

1533
01:31:36,930 --> 01:31:37,200
that

1534
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,170
Unknown: Sinai is asked again,
it's playing with fire. What I

1535
01:31:40,170 --> 01:31:43,530
mean to say is, it is
experimenting with a deadly new

1536
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,940
COVID-19 stream as per report
and this one has a mortality

1537
01:31:47,940 --> 01:31:52,890
rate of 100%. Right. None of
those who have been infected

1538
01:31:52,890 --> 01:31:54,270
with it has survived.

1539
01:31:54,780 --> 01:31:56,610
Adam Curry: When I heard that
I'm like what people have been

1540
01:31:56,610 --> 01:31:59,490
infected and they died that none
of the people who are infected

1541
01:31:59,490 --> 01:32:02,520
with this new disease x this new
virus from China have survived

1542
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:03,210
what Tada look

1543
01:32:03,210 --> 01:32:07,080
Unknown: at this report
published in bio RX iwi doctors

1544
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,440
trained by Chinese People's
Liberation Army are conducting

1545
01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:13,920
these experiments. They have
made their own version of

1546
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:18,120
Coronavirus found in pangolins.
The scientists administer this

1547
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:23,400
labmate virus in mice. Guess
what they discovered, mice

1548
01:32:23,430 --> 01:32:28,620
started losing weight blockers
their eyes went white. All of

1549
01:32:28,620 --> 01:32:33,420
this happened after five days of
being infected. The virus threat

1550
01:32:33,450 --> 01:32:37,950
to their eyes, their lungs and
even the brain. All four mice

1551
01:32:37,980 --> 01:32:42,810
infected with the new COVID-19
stream died in eight days. In

1552
01:32:42,810 --> 01:32:45,870
the last two days of their
lives, the virus increased in

1553
01:32:45,870 --> 01:32:49,650
the brains significantly what
caused the deaths. Researchers

1554
01:32:49,650 --> 01:32:54,420
suggest it was severe brain
infection. The intensity of this

1555
01:32:54,420 --> 01:32:58,620
new strain is astounding. And it
has set alarm bells ringing by

1556
01:32:58,620 --> 01:33:02,310
the way, Chinese scientists have
issued warnings they fear the

1557
01:33:02,310 --> 01:33:05,970
virus strain can spill over to
human beings. And what would

1558
01:33:05,970 --> 01:33:09,270
happen then would lead to a
pandemic all over again.

1559
01:33:09,480 --> 01:33:14,310
Adam Curry: So this this type of
reporting has Oh, No one

1560
01:33:14,310 --> 01:33:17,370
survived. It turns out it was
mice and they turned into first

1561
01:33:17,370 --> 01:33:21,330
they lost weight which is a
groovy and then the the eyes

1562
01:33:21,330 --> 01:33:24,210
went white and a brain disease
and they all died and it's all

1563
01:33:24,210 --> 01:33:29,970
China. It's gotten so crazy that
we got a Fox News poll

1564
01:33:29,970 --> 01:33:32,910
everyone's talking about on
Twitter x. Let's bring in

1565
01:33:32,910 --> 01:33:37,740
Redfield Redfield, you recall
was the CDC director who left

1566
01:33:37,740 --> 01:33:41,340
during the pandemic. And he's
back to this

1567
01:33:41,340 --> 01:33:43,440
Unknown: morning growing
concerns as we learned growing

1568
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:48,060
consumers are experimenting with
a mutant COVID strain 100% A

1569
01:33:48,060 --> 01:33:51,990
Adam Curry: mutant mutant COVID
strain Oh, who writes this

1570
01:33:51,990 --> 01:33:52,860
stuff? Scientists

1571
01:33:52,860 --> 01:33:56,730
Unknown: are experimenting with
a mutant COVID strain 100%

1572
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:00,630
lethal in mice. Despite critics
warning this research could

1573
01:34:00,630 --> 01:34:04,890
spark another pandemic. Former
CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield

1574
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,080
is here to react. Good morning,
Dr. Redfield.

1575
01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:09,960
Adam Curry: Good morning. What
are you here for? I'm here to

1576
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:11,070
react again. Why

1577
01:34:11,070 --> 01:34:12,540
Unknown: would they do this
again?

1578
01:34:13,590 --> 01:34:18,060
Well, you know, as Lee I'm very
much against the wisdom of doing

1579
01:34:18,060 --> 01:34:21,270
this gain of function research.
I mean, I'm of the view that the

1580
01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:26,100
original COVID pandemic was a
direct consequence of laboratory

1581
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:29,130
research that helped educate the
virus to become more

1582
01:34:29,130 --> 01:34:33,780
transmissible, human to human,
not more pathogenic. And the

1583
01:34:33,780 --> 01:34:37,080
work you talk about today is
work that they're doing that

1584
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:40,950
actually is changing the
pathogenicity of these viruses,

1585
01:34:40,950 --> 01:34:44,940
I think until we really have a
better debate about whether

1586
01:34:44,940 --> 01:34:47,760
there's any value in this gain
of function research, we ought

1587
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,390
to have a moratorium on it. And
clearly we don't have the bio

1588
01:34:51,390 --> 01:34:54,900
containment up to par to do this
kind of research. I think it's

1589
01:34:54,900 --> 01:34:56,370
very dangerous. But

1590
01:34:56,370 --> 01:34:59,160
Adam Curry: what's really
dangerous is the reporting on

1591
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:03,090
all this and how This swirls
around on social media and

1592
01:35:03,090 --> 01:35:07,680
before you know it, disease X is
a thing. And it's happening. But

1593
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,230
there's something he said in
this not only the second one,

1594
01:35:10,230 --> 01:35:14,670
the second clip that made me
connect a few dots. People

1595
01:35:14,670 --> 01:35:16,980
Unknown: have been wondering if
it was Fred because of a lab

1596
01:35:16,980 --> 01:35:21,450
leak and his ex boss was talking
to Congress. That headline on

1597
01:35:21,450 --> 01:35:25,710
Fox News is Fauci is ex boss now
says COVID-19 lab leak theory

1598
01:35:25,860 --> 01:35:30,810
was credible, despite previous
claims, it was a distraction. So

1599
01:35:30,810 --> 01:35:33,600
now he's saying that, but he
downplayed it when he was

1600
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:36,990
interviewed with Bret Baier back
in 2021, listen to this,

1601
01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:40,260
I'm really sorry that the lab
leak has become such a

1602
01:35:40,260 --> 01:35:43,530
distraction for so many people,
because frankly, we still don't

1603
01:35:43,530 --> 01:35:46,500
know there is no evidence,
really, to most of the

1604
01:35:46,500 --> 01:35:49,650
scientific community, myself
included, think that is a

1605
01:35:49,650 --> 01:35:53,340
possibility. But far more
likely, this was a natural way

1606
01:35:53,340 --> 01:35:56,100
in which a virus left a bat
maybe traveled through some

1607
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:58,320
other species and got to humans.
But

1608
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,290
now he's saying it is credibly
told Congress that how can we

1609
01:36:01,290 --> 01:36:04,710
trust the NIH? And why is he
changing his story now?

1610
01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:08,310
Well, you know, I'm very
disappointed in both him and

1611
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:11,100
Fauci that they didn't provide
the scientific leadership in

1612
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:15,330
January, February of 2022,
aggressively investigate both

1613
01:36:15,330 --> 01:36:19,140
hypotheses to spill over in the
lab leak. That's normally what

1614
01:36:19,140 --> 01:36:23,640
the scientific community would
do. Instead, they very rapidly

1615
01:36:24,900 --> 01:36:28,410
sort of rally the troops around
one idea that just had to come

1616
01:36:28,410 --> 01:36:31,140
from a spillover even though I
will say over the last three to

1617
01:36:31,140 --> 01:36:34,560
four years, all the evidence
that's been gathered points more

1618
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,800
towards lab leaks. And, and
obviously, we haven't found any

1619
01:36:37,830 --> 01:36:40,980
evidence to support the
spillover. Now, they did this, I

1620
01:36:40,980 --> 01:36:43,230
think largely because they
thought they were protecting

1621
01:36:43,230 --> 01:36:47,370
science. And the science that
they were protecting, is this

1622
01:36:47,370 --> 01:36:50,640
gain of function research that
they want to do. But in fact,

1623
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,970
they did the opposite. I think
we've lost a lot of credibility

1624
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:58,650
in both NIH and unfortunately,
CDC because of their lack of

1625
01:36:58,650 --> 01:36:59,580
transparency.

1626
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,720
Adam Curry: So here's what I
some dots I connect, because you

1627
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:07,470
know, I'm, I'm a no virus guy,
you definitely say there's a bio

1628
01:37:07,470 --> 01:37:11,610
weapon. We had dinner earlier
this week with the ER doctor.

1629
01:37:12,150 --> 01:37:18,060
And I said, Tell me what is.
This seems like it was just the

1630
01:37:18,060 --> 01:37:22,140
flu people were dying from the
flu from fear. He says, this is

1631
01:37:22,170 --> 01:37:26,970
I just connected this this
morning. He says yes, but he

1632
01:37:26,970 --> 01:37:31,350
says, I saw people with this
white lung stuff. He says, that

1633
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:37,650
was some kind of bio weapon. Is
it perhaps possible that a bio

1634
01:37:37,650 --> 01:37:42,060
weapon, an actual bio weapon was
accidentally released, then I'm

1635
01:37:42,060 --> 01:37:45,390
just gonna say it was us whether
it was the labs we had in

1636
01:37:45,390 --> 01:37:48,690
Ukraine, which would make total
sense gotta clean that up, or

1637
01:37:48,690 --> 01:37:52,740
whether it was for Dietrich, but
some bio weapon got out. And

1638
01:37:52,740 --> 01:37:55,710
maybe that was the early or
maybe I was wrong about those

1639
01:37:55,710 --> 01:37:58,980
early cartridges, you know, the
vape cartridges that people gave

1640
01:37:58,980 --> 01:38:03,150
them white lung and they died,
maybe that was an actual bio

1641
01:38:03,150 --> 01:38:08,370
weapon. And to cover it up. They
came up with this whole COVID

1642
01:38:08,370 --> 01:38:08,730
thing.

1643
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:15,480
John C Dvorak: This seems to
elaborate to me. Okay. All

1644
01:38:15,480 --> 01:38:15,810
right.

1645
01:38:16,830 --> 01:38:20,820
Adam Curry: For sure. They no
one seems to be able to come to

1646
01:38:20,820 --> 01:38:27,600
terms with what is happening. We
have a excess Dez in the UK,

1647
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,990
which is being actively
discussed in parliament there

1648
01:38:31,890 --> 01:38:37,350
10% 7% year on year, it should
in fact, be going down. It

1649
01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:40,980
should be a deficit. But it's
not it's going up. And now we

1650
01:38:40,980 --> 01:38:44,610
are seeing this here in the
United States. It's showing up

1651
01:38:44,610 --> 01:38:48,690
with these cancers and younger
people. And what could it come

1652
01:38:48,690 --> 01:38:49,140
from an

1653
01:38:49,140 --> 01:38:52,290
Unknown: alarming trend?
Colorectal cancer is now the

1654
01:38:52,290 --> 01:38:56,580
leading cause of cancer deaths
in men under the age of 50. And

1655
01:38:56,580 --> 01:38:59,610
the second among women of the
same age.

1656
01:38:59,790 --> 01:39:02,790
We do suspect a something in the
environment. But what that is,

1657
01:39:02,790 --> 01:39:05,790
we don't know likely it's a
combination of things that's

1658
01:39:05,790 --> 01:39:09,480
affecting our microbiomes or our
immune systems that may be

1659
01:39:09,480 --> 01:39:11,940
leading to why this is
happening. younger and younger.

1660
01:39:11,970 --> 01:39:12,360
Dr.

1661
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:16,080
Kimmy ng is an oncologist at
Boston's Dana Farber Cancer

1662
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,890
Institute. And he's seen a
dramatic increase in patients in

1663
01:39:19,890 --> 01:39:23,790
their 20s and 30s. Younger
people tend to have more

1664
01:39:23,790 --> 01:39:25,440
advanced cancers, correct?

1665
01:39:25,650 --> 01:39:28,770
Yes, the majority of our young
patients who are diagnosed

1666
01:39:28,770 --> 01:39:32,160
unfortunately are diagnosed with
either stage three or four

1667
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:33,270
colorectal cancer.

1668
01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:36,690
Adam Curry: That was NBC CBS has
a similar report. I do

1669
01:39:36,690 --> 01:39:38,940
Unknown: want to ask you about
the American Cancer Society

1670
01:39:38,940 --> 01:39:43,410
today reporting colon cancer is
killing more young men and women

1671
01:39:43,410 --> 01:39:47,220
than ever before. You are a
gastroenterologist what is going

1672
01:39:47,220 --> 01:39:47,640
on?

1673
01:39:47,790 --> 01:39:50,010
Yet? We've been concerned about
this. We've seen that younger

1674
01:39:50,010 --> 01:39:51,990
people are increasingly
affected, which is why the

1675
01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:54,960
guidelines for initial screening
for people at average risk has

1676
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:59,970
fallen from 50 to 45. Why has it
done that? Well, maybe there's

1677
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,370
something in the environment
something we're eating are

1678
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:04,830
increasing obesity, which is
linked to an increased risk for

1679
01:40:04,830 --> 01:40:07,620
colon cancer. Is it our
inactivity? Or is it something

1680
01:40:07,620 --> 01:40:10,560
in the microbiome, the trillions
of bacteria in our gut and

1681
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,290
somehow the environment,
something we're eating or

1682
01:40:13,290 --> 01:40:15,630
antibiotics are changing that
and increasing the risk? We

1683
01:40:15,630 --> 01:40:18,120
don't know. But we're going to
end with good news, which is

1684
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:22,110
that every year for the last 30
years, the total deaths from

1685
01:40:22,110 --> 01:40:25,110
colon cancer have dropped, which
is a terrific achievement. But

1686
01:40:25,260 --> 01:40:28,050
today's report shows us we can't
be complacent and we really have

1687
01:40:28,050 --> 01:40:30,870
to screen screening works. You
need to talk to your healthcare

1688
01:40:30,870 --> 01:40:31,380
provider

1689
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:40,110
Adam Curry: these people Kockums
razor for a moment people.

1690
01:40:41,130 --> 01:40:44,850
That's really what a disservice
they're doing what a disservice.

1691
01:40:46,710 --> 01:40:47,730
Unbelievable.

1692
01:40:49,650 --> 01:40:51,510
John C Dvorak: They just don't
want to come to grips with the

1693
01:40:51,510 --> 01:40:56,160
thesis that is the vaccine is
causing these issues. We had a

1694
01:40:56,190 --> 01:40:59,340
guy just dropped another drug
suddenly dropped dead to some a

1695
01:40:59,340 --> 01:41:02,190
heart attack. 45 years old. I'm
one of the executives of New

1696
01:41:02,190 --> 01:41:05,640
Warriors, you know, and it's
just like, okay.

1697
01:41:07,500 --> 01:41:12,000
Adam Curry: Yeah, like, exactly,
huh, whoa, whatever. It's

1698
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,490
unbelievable. It really is.

1699
01:41:19,770 --> 01:41:24,780
It's not everybody, by the way.
Don't don't all get freaked out.

1700
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,690
But it seems so obvious. And
it's never discussed. Never.

1701
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:32,010
They just can't touch it.

1702
01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:36,420
John C Dvorak: No, of course
not. Because who's the leading

1703
01:41:36,420 --> 01:41:41,550
advertiser on television and the
news media is they've captured

1704
01:41:41,550 --> 01:41:46,350
it's a captured is a captured
situation captured, captured is

1705
01:41:46,350 --> 01:41:49,890
the word. Yes. That's the word
of the day. Let's go to this.

1706
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:52,830
You had NATO guy on earlier,
because you were doing that

1707
01:41:52,830 --> 01:41:58,650
thing on the data. Bags. Yeah.
Here's another one of these guys

1708
01:41:58,650 --> 01:42:06,720
is discussing the Ukraine war
with an ex NATO hotshot. on PBS.

1709
01:42:06,750 --> 01:42:08,970
This is quite entertaining. They
reported

1710
01:42:08,970 --> 01:42:11,550
Unknown: earlier negotiations
over funding for border

1711
01:42:11,550 --> 01:42:15,060
security. Earlier today I spoke
with former NATO Secretary

1712
01:42:15,060 --> 01:42:18,450
General Anders full Grace mucin.
About what this means as

1713
01:42:18,450 --> 01:42:22,080
Russia's war in Ukraine enters
its third year. And as well,

1714
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:24,420
Ross mucin. Thank you so much
for being here. Welcome to the

1715
01:42:24,420 --> 01:42:27,570
NewsHour. Thank you for having
me. So I want to ask you about

1716
01:42:27,570 --> 01:42:31,470
US lawmakers inability so far,
to reach a deal on immigration

1717
01:42:31,470 --> 01:42:34,620
that would allow Ukraine aid to
move forward. You've said

1718
01:42:34,620 --> 01:42:37,290
previously you would advise
Democrats to accommodate

1719
01:42:37,290 --> 01:42:40,890
Republicans on the border, cut a
deal get the aid flowing. I know

1720
01:42:40,890 --> 01:42:43,590
you're meeting with House
Freedom Caucus members tomorrow.

1721
01:42:43,740 --> 01:42:46,140
What's your advice to them? My

1722
01:42:46,140 --> 01:42:52,560
advice would be to do what it
takes to ensure that Ukraine

1723
01:42:53,220 --> 01:43:00,030
wins the war against Russia,
because it is detrimental for

1724
01:43:00,030 --> 01:43:04,980
the US national security
interest. If Russia wins this

1725
01:43:04,980 --> 01:43:10,140
war, we cannot allow Putin any
success in Ukraine. There

1726
01:43:10,140 --> 01:43:12,780
is a very real chance that
former President Donald Trump

1727
01:43:12,780 --> 01:43:15,390
will be the Republican nominee
that he could win in November.

1728
01:43:15,690 --> 01:43:19,530
If aid for Ukraine does not move
forward under the Biden

1729
01:43:19,530 --> 01:43:22,290
administration. Do you believe
it could move forward under

1730
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,030
President Trump? Yes,

1731
01:43:24,060 --> 01:43:29,160
we don't know. As a point of
departure. I'm skeptical. When

1732
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,530
you look forward, though, into
the months ahead and what could

1733
01:43:31,530 --> 01:43:34,920
happen here in the US you've
said that even if Mr. Trump

1734
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,590
doesn't win, you said his
nomination alone could be a

1735
01:43:37,590 --> 01:43:40,410
geopolitical catastrophe. Why?

1736
01:43:41,130 --> 01:43:44,340
Adam Curry: I didn't get any
clips, but Zelinsky was in Davao

1737
01:43:44,460 --> 01:43:50,850
Dubbo. And he was is he was
talking about the peace formula.

1738
01:43:51,330 --> 01:43:56,010
Peace formula, which is unclear.
Anyway, and he was meeting with

1739
01:43:56,010 --> 01:43:58,260
the bankers he was there.
They're meeting about the

1740
01:43:58,260 --> 01:44:01,800
reconstruction already. They
gotta end this thing. But this

1741
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,770
guy's a military guy just wants
to sell more things that go

1742
01:44:04,770 --> 01:44:05,280
boom.

1743
01:44:05,790 --> 01:44:08,760
John C Dvorak: Well, I'd like to
know I'm watching PBS is in

1744
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,330
America is I think PBS is United
States, right? It's not I'm not

1745
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:16,950
getting a feed from Mexico. Are
you sure? I don't know who's so

1746
01:44:16,950 --> 01:44:21,990
why is this guy even being
interviewed at all? And why is

1747
01:44:21,990 --> 01:44:26,460
he up on Capitol Hill? chatting
it up with the Peace coalition

1748
01:44:26,460 --> 01:44:30,180
and whoever else is there? What
is he got to do with the slice

1749
01:44:30,180 --> 01:44:34,260
of Buddha slice? Because you got
to do with rice or bread or the

1750
01:44:34,260 --> 01:44:38,460
slice for that matter? What is
this guy sales got to do with

1751
01:44:38,460 --> 01:44:41,580
anything and let alone being it.
This is beyond me.

1752
01:44:41,610 --> 01:44:44,040
Adam Curry: He's a sales guy
he's selling for the military

1753
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:45,210
industrial complex.

1754
01:44:46,020 --> 01:44:49,620
Unknown: It goes on his part
too, because I have seen that.

1755
01:44:50,010 --> 01:44:55,500
The fact that he is around the
fact that he probably will be

1756
01:44:55,500 --> 01:45:00,540
nominated as the Republican
presidential can The date

1757
01:45:00,750 --> 01:45:08,550
already that has changed the way
international actors, they take

1758
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:14,490
decisions, they try to hedge
their bets. and in Europe, for

1759
01:45:14,490 --> 01:45:19,200
instance, there is a great
concern that a new

1760
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,710
administration might be more
inward looking more

1761
01:45:22,710 --> 01:45:26,910
isolationist, that they will
leave Europe behind. I don't

1762
01:45:26,910 --> 01:45:30,030
think that would be in the
interest of the United States to

1763
01:45:30,030 --> 01:45:34,380
weaken its alliances across the
Atlantic. On the contrary, we

1764
01:45:34,380 --> 01:45:37,290
should strengthen the
Transatlantic Alliance.

1765
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:41,250
Can I ask you about what we've
seen in the US public, though,

1766
01:45:41,250 --> 01:45:44,940
which is some decline in support
for continuing the same level of

1767
01:45:44,940 --> 01:45:48,420
us funding for Ukraine, and
specifically, this idea that

1768
01:45:48,420 --> 01:45:52,110
European nations should be doing
more? Should Europe be bearing

1769
01:45:52,110 --> 01:45:54,570
more of the security burden,
especially when it comes to

1770
01:45:54,570 --> 01:45:56,520
Ukraine? Yes.

1771
01:45:56,850 --> 01:46:03,210
And we are doing so latest
figures demonstrate that Europe

1772
01:46:03,210 --> 01:46:07,950
has now overtaken the US when it
comes both to military

1773
01:46:07,950 --> 01:46:11,880
assistance and direct financial
assistance led late last year?

1774
01:46:12,420 --> 01:46:15,480
Yes, we are not speaking about
pledges who is being about real

1775
01:46:15,480 --> 01:46:20,460
money. When it comes to the
military. According to those

1776
01:46:20,460 --> 01:46:28,680
figures, Europe has contributed
54 billion euros, the US 44

1777
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,210
billion euros dye

1778
01:46:30,210 --> 01:46:34,740
Adam Curry: question those
numbers. I do too, I thought we

1779
01:46:34,740 --> 01:46:36,390
were well over 100 billion.

1780
01:46:36,810 --> 01:46:39,390
John C Dvorak: I think this
guy's full of crap. Well,

1781
01:46:40,470 --> 01:46:42,330
Adam Curry: you got to catch up
people that can't have the

1782
01:46:42,330 --> 01:46:45,450
European spending more on
military stuff we need to spend.

1783
01:46:46,170 --> 01:46:48,030
John C Dvorak: And then you can
kind of tell when you listen to

1784
01:46:48,030 --> 01:46:52,590
his last clip, which is that
what they want us to do, which

1785
01:46:52,590 --> 01:46:57,300
is give them everything,
including the most high tech of

1786
01:46:57,300 --> 01:47:00,780
high tech products. So the
Russians guy geskin would get a

1787
01:47:00,780 --> 01:47:03,840
hold of them and copy them or
the Chinese because that's what

1788
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,540
they're going to end up
happening. If you do that. I

1789
01:47:07,110 --> 01:47:11,580
just thought this was a
disgusting example of PBS.

1790
01:47:12,420 --> 01:47:15,420
Bringing in some this guy, this
guy annoys me, let's play.

1791
01:47:15,630 --> 01:47:20,310
Unknown: I appreciate that the
Europeans contribute more, they

1792
01:47:20,310 --> 01:47:26,880
should, we should do so. But it
cannot replace a continued US

1793
01:47:26,910 --> 01:47:31,620
assistance. We need both. We
need sophisticated weapons

1794
01:47:31,620 --> 01:47:36,240
delivered by the United States.
And we need more weapons. We

1795
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:41,040
need to lift all self imposed
restrictions on weapon

1796
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:45,540
deliveries to Ukraine. So the
mantra that we will help Ukraine

1797
01:47:45,570 --> 01:47:50,100
for as long as it takes, it
should be replaced with we will

1798
01:47:50,610 --> 01:47:54,930
give to Ukraine. All it takes to
win the war.

1799
01:47:55,440 --> 01:47:58,170
There's been a lot of criticism
that had the US and NATO Allies

1800
01:47:58,170 --> 01:48:01,020
done that sooner the war might
have been over by now Ukraine

1801
01:48:01,020 --> 01:48:03,720
would be in a different
position. It took 300 days into

1802
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,690
the war for the US, for example,
to provide long range missiles

1803
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,050
President Solinsky had been
asking for. Was that a mistake?

1804
01:48:11,340 --> 01:48:20,880
Yes, it's really. I mean, it's a
sad story to see our hesitation.

1805
01:48:21,420 --> 01:48:26,130
And the reason why they equate
the Ukrainian counteroffensive

1806
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:31,830
have been so difficult, and so
modest, is that we took much too

1807
01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:36,450
long time to take necessary
decisions. You cannot win a war

1808
01:48:36,690 --> 01:48:42,120
by an incremental step by step
approach. You have to overwhelm

1809
01:48:42,390 --> 01:48:45,810
and surprise your adversary. We
failed to do that.

1810
01:48:45,900 --> 01:48:49,260
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Well,
there's a plan. They got a plan.

1811
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,530
Because yes, is no longer
pulling his weight. Jens

1812
01:48:52,530 --> 01:48:56,250
Stoltenberg. He's not doing it.
He's not getting you know, he

1813
01:48:56,250 --> 01:49:01,470
sits in Davos. He's got the he's
living it up doing caviar bumps.

1814
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:06,060
And you know that we need more
war to make peace. It's like I'm

1815
01:49:06,060 --> 01:49:10,200
here, but he's been there for 10
years. He's been he's contracts

1816
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:14,520
been extended over and over
again. And now they're looking

1817
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:16,410
for a new leader. It's

1818
01:49:16,410 --> 01:49:19,050
Unknown: been one of the most
popular guessing games in

1819
01:49:19,050 --> 01:49:23,820
Brussels for years. Who will
replace Jens Stoltenberg, the

1820
01:49:23,820 --> 01:49:26,820
Norwegian NATO chief has been
asked to stay on as head of the

1821
01:49:26,820 --> 01:49:30,900
Western military alliance four
times, once, even after he'd

1822
01:49:30,930 --> 01:49:33,330
already accepted another job. It

1823
01:49:33,330 --> 01:49:40,260
is time for NATO leaders to find
a good candidate. It's really

1824
01:49:40,260 --> 01:49:45,120
important that a choice is made
early enough and that it is

1825
01:49:45,150 --> 01:49:51,660
delinked from both the European
union elections and the campaign

1826
01:49:51,660 --> 01:49:54,210
for the United States elections.
Just why

1827
01:49:54,210 --> 01:49:57,540
the alliance has been unable to
find a suitable replacement is

1828
01:49:57,540 --> 01:50:01,080
not exactly clear, in part
because There's no official

1829
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:05,220
procedure for doing so. There
has been an unofficial list of

1830
01:50:05,220 --> 01:50:09,420
desired qualities experienced as
a head of state or government of

1831
01:50:09,420 --> 01:50:13,140
a country with robust defense
spending from a southern or

1832
01:50:13,140 --> 01:50:18,630
Eastern ally and preferably
finally a woman. Many names have

1833
01:50:18,630 --> 01:50:23,310
come up and gone down. Currently
Latvian Foreign Minister

1834
01:50:23,310 --> 01:50:27,180
Christianity's current Estonian
Prime Minister Kaya goalless and

1835
01:50:27,210 --> 01:50:31,380
outgoing Dutch Prime Minister
Mark Ruta all want the job route

1836
01:50:31,380 --> 01:50:35,370
it has gradually emerged as the
clear favorite, a safer choice

1837
01:50:35,370 --> 01:50:39,330
with Moscow's war on Ukraine
dominating the Alliance agenda.

1838
01:50:39,930 --> 01:50:41,910
Adam Curry: So I've been
following this for a while

1839
01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:45,330
because Margaret, of course is
Dutch. The Prime Minister was

1840
01:50:45,330 --> 01:50:49,020
prime minister for 12 years or
something. If they want a woman

1841
01:50:49,050 --> 01:50:54,510
that's the guy you want. Get him
if they want a woman put him in

1842
01:50:54,510 --> 01:51:00,630
charge. He's to he was in HR at
at Unilever. Before he became

1843
01:51:00,630 --> 01:51:04,500
prime minister. He is a as we
say in the old country, a silk

1844
01:51:04,500 --> 01:51:09,390
sock. He's just a worse he's
silk

1845
01:51:09,390 --> 01:51:10,110
Unknown: sauce

1846
01:51:10,110 --> 01:51:10,860
silk sock.

1847
01:51:10,860 --> 01:51:12,720
John C Dvorak: He has what they
call an old country.

1848
01:51:14,340 --> 01:51:16,920
Adam Curry: Zetas sock, silk
sock?

1849
01:51:17,550 --> 01:51:19,710
John C Dvorak: Well, we're while
we're on the topic of the old

1850
01:51:19,710 --> 01:51:23,580
country, we might as well play
this clip. Oh, boy. This is

1851
01:51:23,580 --> 01:51:26,670
Claire Daly going off on Biden.
Yet. This

1852
01:51:26,670 --> 01:51:29,310
Adam Curry: is this is a nice
little rant. Our old Claire did

1853
01:51:29,310 --> 01:51:29,850
despite

1854
01:51:29,850 --> 01:51:33,480
Unknown: the catastrophic death
toll it has inflicted, Israel is

1855
01:51:33,480 --> 01:51:37,320
losing on the ground. And in the
courts of public opinion.

1856
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:41,790
There's no way that this ends
that doesn't leave Israel, a

1857
01:51:41,790 --> 01:51:46,470
pariah state with occupation and
apartheid on borrowed time. And

1858
01:51:46,470 --> 01:51:50,460
they know it. So they're doing
everything they can desperate

1859
01:51:50,460 --> 01:51:54,870
acts of aggression to provoke a
wider conflict with Lebanon with

1860
01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:59,160
Iran with anybody to draw in the
US to save them from the

1861
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:02,850
consequences of their own
actions. And as Yemen shows,

1862
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:07,890
butcher Biden is reporting for
juicy so take notes, butcher by

1863
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:12,990
the ancestors of the Ireland
that you claim to be from disown

1864
01:52:12,990 --> 01:52:15,810
you keep our company out of your
mouth,

1865
01:52:16,290 --> 01:52:19,680
Adam Curry: butcher Biden, they
need to chant they need to

1866
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:23,700
chant, I need a chance to
incorporate that. I just want to

1867
01:52:23,700 --> 01:52:26,700
go back to your military
industrial complex for a moment,

1868
01:52:26,970 --> 01:52:29,700
because they're having such a
hard time just keeping with the

1869
01:52:29,700 --> 01:52:33,510
show theme here. having such a
hard time finding a body double

1870
01:52:33,510 --> 01:52:35,700
for Lloyd Austin. There just
can't

1871
01:52:35,700 --> 01:52:38,310
John C Dvorak: be It can't be
done there. Just yet to find an

1872
01:52:38,310 --> 01:52:44,520
ex NFL guy. Probably a lineman.
Yeah. And he's got to be the

1873
01:52:45,090 --> 01:52:49,470
last like six for some problem
because you can get the fridge.

1874
01:52:50,700 --> 01:52:54,300
Tonight, you have to be careful
about who you're hiring nowadays

1875
01:52:54,300 --> 01:52:57,330
if you need it if he's going to
need a body double, because some

1876
01:52:57,330 --> 01:53:00,360
guys are just going to be hard
to replace. I know Trump I'm

1877
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:03,390
sure there's two of them. So
they're distracting us

1878
01:53:03,390 --> 01:53:05,250
Adam Curry: with the 911. Call
tonight

1879
01:53:05,250 --> 01:53:08,040
Unknown: ABC News obtaining the
911 call requesting an ambulance

1880
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,220
at the home of Defense Secretary
Lloyd Austin after complications

1881
01:53:11,220 --> 01:53:13,770
from the surgery. He kept a
secret at first oh nine

1882
01:53:13,770 --> 01:53:16,860
John C Dvorak: federal employee
called Yeah, it took them this

1883
01:53:16,860 --> 01:53:20,430
long to create a phony 911 call
for the for the media.

1884
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,760
Adam Curry: Have you heard the
call is great. Oh, the call is

1885
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:27,120
fantastic. And listen to the
call like I got some of the

1886
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:28,320
call. 911

1887
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:29,550
Unknown: Where's your emergency?

1888
01:53:29,700 --> 01:53:34,320
Tonight the 911 call just
obtained by CBS News reveals an

1889
01:53:34,350 --> 01:53:37,740
aide to Secretary of Defense
Lloyd Austin asked the

1890
01:53:37,740 --> 01:53:41,160
dispatcher to keep the emergency
discreet.

1891
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:46,590
They can ambulance not show up
with lights and sirens. We're

1892
01:53:46,590 --> 01:53:50,550
trying to remain a little
subtle. Yeah, I understand.

1893
01:53:51,030 --> 01:53:53,280
Yeah, usually when they turn
into a residential neighborhood,

1894
01:53:53,310 --> 01:53:55,680
they'll turn them off, but
they're required by law to run

1895
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:56,850
with them with the Main Street.

1896
01:53:57,120 --> 01:54:00,930
The operator then asks for
details about Austin's can

1897
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:01,200
What's

1898
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:01,830
Adam Curry: your question?

1899
01:54:02,670 --> 01:54:04,650
John C Dvorak: What is this
nonsense about turning the

1900
01:54:04,650 --> 01:54:05,760
lights on and off and

1901
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:07,800
Adam Curry: well they didn't
want to want to keep it subtle

1902
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,950
you know? Because we know we
don't want what's your Biden to

1903
01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:16,020
know I guess I don't know this
is this is some helper at his at

1904
01:54:16,020 --> 01:54:16,770
his resume

1905
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:19,020
John C Dvorak: this is a no I've
just not that I did not you

1906
01:54:19,020 --> 01:54:23,430
mention it is so that when when
they canvass anyone in his

1907
01:54:23,430 --> 01:54:26,520
neighborhood about the the
ambulance they kill I don't

1908
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:30,780
remember. Because there was no
lights and sirens Yes, exactly.

1909
01:54:31,530 --> 01:54:35,340
Yeah. Like he's gonna pass out.
Oh,

1910
01:54:35,340 --> 01:54:37,650
Adam Curry: you mean so? Oh,
that's a good point. Well, it

1911
01:54:37,650 --> 01:54:42,180
was done on the Qt on the DL. So
yeah, so no one no no witnesses

1912
01:54:42,510 --> 01:54:44,490
John C Dvorak: policy because if
you did listen to her as a

1913
01:54:44,490 --> 01:54:47,940
policy that you keep the license
overnight and the main drags but

1914
01:54:47,940 --> 01:54:50,580
when you go into the residential
areas, you turn them off. Yes.

1915
01:54:53,670 --> 01:54:57,090
Unknown: Austin was taken to the
hospital on New Year's Day with

1916
01:54:57,090 --> 01:55:00,930
an infection that stemmed from
complications and After surgery

1917
01:55:00,930 --> 01:55:05,010
to treat prostate cancer just
over two weeks earlier, in a

1918
01:55:05,010 --> 01:55:09,270
statement, Austin's doctor said
he had severe pain in his leg,

1919
01:55:09,270 --> 01:55:11,280
hip and abdomen from

1920
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:12,210
Adam Curry: the shrapnel.

1921
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:17,250
Unknown: I'm just curious if we
need to take him to Walter Reed

1922
01:55:17,250 --> 01:55:21,300
medical, is that a possibility?
Let them know that when they get

1923
01:55:21,300 --> 01:55:23,640
there, like I said, I'm noting
all this in the call the

1924
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:28,380
911 call adds to questions about
why President Biden did not find

1925
01:55:28,380 --> 01:55:31,770
out about Austin's
hospitalization for three days.

1926
01:55:32,010 --> 01:55:35,610
Neither did his deputy who had
taken over Austin's duties while

1927
01:55:35,610 --> 01:55:40,170
she was on vacation in Puerto
Rico. Despite calls for Austin's

1928
01:55:40,170 --> 01:55:44,610
resignation. The president says
he's not considering firing him.

1929
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:47,850
I do.

1930
01:55:53,310 --> 01:55:58,290
Yes, but tonight The Pentagon
has not responded to our request

1931
01:55:58,290 --> 01:56:01,890
for a comment about that 911
Call. The inspector general

1932
01:56:01,890 --> 01:56:05,610
though continues to investigate
why it took Austin so long to

1933
01:56:05,610 --> 01:56:08,220
disclose his hospitalization,
all

1934
01:56:08,220 --> 01:56:10,290
Adam Curry: distraction. And
then of course, he's now

1935
01:56:10,290 --> 01:56:13,140
released, we still don't have
him waving from the balcony

1936
01:56:13,140 --> 01:56:13,500
defense

1937
01:56:13,500 --> 01:56:16,080
Unknown: secretary Lloyd Austin
was released from Walter Reed

1938
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:19,440
Medical Center today after being
treated for complications that

1939
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,800
follow up prostate cancer
surgery. His treatment and

1940
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:26,370
complications had been kept
secret for days, prompting

1941
01:56:26,370 --> 01:56:29,610
widespread criticism. The
Pentagon said Austin will

1942
01:56:29,610 --> 01:56:33,030
continue to recuperate and
perform his duties from home

1943
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:35,130
Adam Curry: and now they're
saying they think he may need

1944
01:56:35,130 --> 01:56:39,960
additional care is not good.
They

1945
01:56:40,350 --> 01:56:42,000
John C Dvorak: where's he waving
from the balcony. I don't know

1946
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:45,360
if maybe some new listeners just
showed up for the show should

1947
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:50,370
know what the thesis is, which
we're kind of skirting, which is

1948
01:56:50,370 --> 01:56:55,650
that he was killed in a Ukraine
attack. He was in Ukraine on the

1949
01:56:55,650 --> 01:56:59,790
first or the second of January,
and he got killed in a in a in

1950
01:56:59,790 --> 01:57:06,480
an attack. And so now they're
trying to if they haven't come

1951
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:11,760
up with a good story yet for
ways missing. I mean, they're

1952
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:15,210
working on it. They're working
on it as we can tell.

1953
01:57:16,350 --> 01:57:19,530
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, we have.
We've got a kerfuffle down here

1954
01:57:19,530 --> 01:57:25,470
in Texas. Now we're Texas is
fighting the federal government.

1955
01:57:26,010 --> 01:57:26,550
Yes,

1956
01:57:26,550 --> 01:57:28,890
John C Dvorak: it's a good
story. Do you have any? I have

1957
01:57:28,890 --> 01:57:32,520
two clips. Tonight tragedy on
the Rio Grande escalating a

1958
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:37,410
border battle between the ocean
and Texas centered around

1959
01:57:37,410 --> 01:57:40,740
federal authorities access to
the border. The Department of

1960
01:57:40,740 --> 01:57:43,470
Homeland Security issuing a
letter to the State's Attorney

1961
01:57:43,470 --> 01:57:47,040
General demanding Texas
immediately cease and desist any

1962
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:50,670
actions. Now blog Border Patrol
has full access to the US Mexico

1963
01:57:50,670 --> 01:57:55,590
border in and around the Shelby
Park area. That Eagle Pass park

1964
01:57:55,830 --> 01:57:59,280
near where a migrant woman and
two children drowned late

1965
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:03,540
Friday. The rescue response
highly disputed. The White House

1966
01:58:03,540 --> 01:58:06,960
stating Texas officials blocked
US Border Patrol from attempting

1967
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:10,470
to save the migrants. Texas
authorities calling that wholly

1968
01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:14,220
inaccurate sharing by the time
Border Patrol requested access.

1969
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:17,640
Mexican authorities were already
recovering the bodies.

1970
01:58:17,910 --> 01:58:22,260
Unknown: It's devastating to
imagine that state officials

1971
01:58:22,290 --> 01:58:25,680
would know that people were
drowning in the river

1972
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:30,120
particularly children and block
Border Patrol from going and

1973
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:30,930
saving them.

1974
01:58:31,170 --> 01:58:33,450
John C Dvorak: Just hours before
the drownings the state's

1975
01:58:33,450 --> 01:58:37,590
governor defending its border
presence. Texas has the legal

1976
01:58:37,590 --> 01:58:41,430
authority to control ingress and
egress into any geographic

1977
01:58:41,430 --> 01:58:45,540
location in the state of Texas.
Back in Eagle Pass 700 white

1978
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crosses marking the estimated
migrant deaths over the last

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year. And tonight DHS is giving
Texas that deadline of this

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Wednesday to stop blocking
border patrol or that will

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01:58:55,410 --> 01:58:57,750
further matter to the Department
of Justice.

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Adam Curry: Civil War maybe
Civil War as Tim Poole can be

1983
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:11,670
civil war and pull up to say
that Civil War Civil War. CBS

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01:59:11,670 --> 01:59:12,600
had to report to the

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01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:16,260
Unknown: Texas National Guard
abruptly seized control of a two

1986
01:59:16,260 --> 01:59:20,220
and a half mile stretch of the
southern border last week. DHS

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01:59:20,220 --> 01:59:23,610
says on Friday federal Border
Protection agents requested

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01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:27,600
access to the area where a group
of migrants was attempting to

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01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:32,400
cross the Rio Grande but Texas
officials refused a woman and

1990
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:36,390
her two children drowned in a
cease and desist letter to the

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01:59:36,390 --> 01:59:40,710
Texas Attorney General. The top
lawyer for DHS said Texas is

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01:59:40,710 --> 01:59:44,610
failure to provide access to the
border persists, even in

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instances of imminent danger to
life and safety. Calling the

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01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:52,110
state's actions clearly
unconstitutional.

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It's all politics, visual
politics. Texas Congressman

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01:59:56,850 --> 02:00:00,690
Henry Cuellar says this state
prevented federal aid ants from

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02:00:00,690 --> 02:00:04,620
using specialized equipment to
save the migrants who died.

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A scope truck is a truck that
has this camera that can see

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02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,810
what's happened in the river
that could have had an impact of

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02:00:12,810 --> 02:00:14,070
what happened here.

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02:00:14,130 --> 02:00:16,680
What is your message to Governor
Abbott?

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You cannot do this type of
standoff is not helpful. The

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02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:21,990
Texas

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military department says two of
the migrants had already drowned

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02:00:25,980 --> 02:00:30,360
by the time Border Patrol asked
to enter the area. Governor Greg

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02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:34,020
Abbott says he has the legal
authority to control areas of

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02:00:34,020 --> 02:00:37,860
the southern border within state
boundaries authority is being

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02:00:37,860 --> 02:00:41,490
asserted with regard to that
park and Eagle Pass Texas to

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02:00:41,490 --> 02:00:44,820
maintain operational control of
Texas blames the Biden

2010
02:00:44,820 --> 02:00:48,720
administration for not doing
enough. It has also installed

2011
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:52,770
controversial razor wire and
changed the law to allow state

2012
02:00:52,770 --> 02:00:57,210
police officers to apprehend
migrants, Texas has until

2013
02:00:57,210 --> 02:01:01,140
Wednesday to comply with the
cease and desist letter to stop

2014
02:01:01,140 --> 02:01:05,370
blocking access to the border.
If it fails, DHS says it will

2015
02:01:05,370 --> 02:01:08,520
refer the matter to the
Department of Justice to take

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appropriate action

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John C Dvorak: and desist letter
does this suggestion.

2018
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Adam Curry: The boats what's the
whole thing is so strange

2019
02:01:19,170 --> 02:01:23,730
because we've got the governor
of Illinois Pritzker taking out

2020
02:01:23,730 --> 02:01:28,200
ads in our papers here saying
please, please, Governor Abbott,

2021
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:33,120
stop sending them to Chicago,
New York is overrun. They now

2022
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:35,670
have to have a curfew for
migrants

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02:01:37,020 --> 02:01:39,030
John C Dvorak: they should be
happy and we should mention we

2024
02:01:39,030 --> 02:01:43,140
should mention that abas total
number of people sent to New

2025
02:01:43,140 --> 02:01:47,340
York for example is 10%. Yeah,
the total of migrants that are

2026
02:01:47,340 --> 02:01:51,180
there have to 90% sent by our
government. Yes.

2027
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:57,660
Adam Curry: Yes. I know. But you
know, then they just bring in

2028
02:01:57,660 --> 02:02:00,720
the oh what a mom and two kids
died, which of course is

2029
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:04,080
horrible. This whole thing is
horrible as a human catastrophe.

2030
02:02:04,410 --> 02:02:09,690
But if you say no moss, no,
that's a Spanish for no. If you

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02:02:09,690 --> 02:02:13,110
say no, you can't come in
anymore. People will stop

2032
02:02:13,110 --> 02:02:15,750
coming. But that's not the plan.

2033
02:02:17,490 --> 02:02:19,710
John C Dvorak: Though they want
it or they

2034
02:02:19,710 --> 02:02:21,900
Adam Curry: totally want an
awesome beach and this is

2035
02:02:21,900 --> 02:02:27,660
happening everywhere in the
world. The UK,

2036
02:02:27,690 --> 02:02:31,170
John C Dvorak: I have an
international conspiracy. It

2037
02:02:31,170 --> 02:02:31,890
truly isn't

2038
02:02:31,890 --> 02:02:34,590
Adam Curry: international
conspiracy. This is the UK. You

2039
02:02:34,590 --> 02:02:39,240
recall the plan there by the
Conservative Party. Rishi

2040
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:42,600
shamrock was to send them to
Rwanda

2041
02:02:44,100 --> 02:02:45,360
John C Dvorak: which I still
love. I

2042
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:49,350
Adam Curry: still well, they
they passed it they can send

2043
02:02:49,350 --> 02:02:51,120
them to Rwanda but nobody likes

2044
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:55,170
Unknown: it the eyes to the
right 320 the nose to the left

2045
02:02:55,170 --> 02:02:57,180
276 In

2046
02:02:57,180 --> 02:03:00,330
the end, only a handful of
Conservative MPs voted against

2047
02:03:00,330 --> 02:03:03,510
the government. The promise
rebellion against a new version

2048
02:03:03,510 --> 02:03:07,530
of the Rwanda plan melted away.
And Rishi Sunak avoided a

2049
02:03:07,530 --> 02:03:12,240
serious political defeat on his
own MPs still don't think his

2050
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:15,810
new law is tough enough.
Migrants will be able to appeal

2051
02:03:15,810 --> 02:03:19,770
their deportation too easily.
Judges in the European Court of

2052
02:03:19,770 --> 02:03:24,150
Human Rights will still be able
to block flights to Rwanda. We

2053
02:03:24,150 --> 02:03:27,810
have Sunak insisted making it
tougher will put the UK in

2054
02:03:27,810 --> 02:03:31,650
breach of international
agreements. The law will work as

2055
02:03:31,650 --> 02:03:35,220
a deterrent. It is important
that we stop the votes because

2056
02:03:35,250 --> 02:03:39,780
illegal migration is simply not
fair. It's not right, that some

2057
02:03:39,780 --> 02:03:40,950
people jumped the queue.

2058
02:03:41,190 --> 02:03:44,100
Adam Curry: That, by the way, is
a good line in the UK. But all

2059
02:03:44,100 --> 02:03:46,260
you gotta do is hey, these
people tried to jump the queue.

2060
02:03:46,650 --> 02:03:49,170
Now the pitchforks come out,
that they

2061
02:03:49,170 --> 02:03:51,750
Unknown: take away our resources
to help those who are the most

2062
02:03:51,750 --> 02:03:54,720
compassionate that need our most
help, and by the way, Mr.

2063
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker are exploited by gangs,
and many of them lose their

2064
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:02,130
lives making these dangerous
crossing. Last year, the UK

2065
02:04:02,130 --> 02:04:06,180
Supreme Court ruled the original
Rwanda plan was illegal because

2066
02:04:06,180 --> 02:04:10,770
the judges said Rwanda was not a
Safe Third Country. This new law

2067
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:14,910
aims to address those concerns,
strengthen his legal status and

2068
02:04:14,910 --> 02:04:19,590
allow flights to Rwanda to start
in a few months. The rebel said

2069
02:04:19,620 --> 02:04:23,010
he was still too vulnerable to
legal delay. We have

2070
02:04:23,010 --> 02:04:27,780
to get people out of the country
within days, not months. And the

2071
02:04:27,810 --> 02:04:31,380
operational plan behind this
bill foresees that people will

2072
02:04:31,380 --> 02:04:34,650
take months to be removed from
the country.

2073
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,370
The Labour opposition said no
version of the plan will ever

2074
02:04:38,370 --> 02:04:42,810
work. Immigration here and
across Europe is a key election

2075
02:04:42,810 --> 02:04:46,230
issue. Governments everywhere
are under pressure to control

2076
02:04:46,230 --> 02:04:47,100
their borders

2077
02:04:47,190 --> 02:04:49,410
Adam Curry: everywhere,
everywhere, everywhere,

2078
02:04:49,410 --> 02:04:55,830
everywhere. So international
conspiracy is right apnea and

2079
02:04:55,890 --> 02:04:58,920
everyone loves it because
China's dead more reports

2080
02:04:58,920 --> 02:05:02,550
China's popular nation is
dwindling and as the former New

2081
02:05:02,550 --> 02:05:06,810
York banker said we win because
we have more people and I hear

2082
02:05:06,810 --> 02:05:10,830
more and more people saying you
know we need you know people to

2083
02:05:10,830 --> 02:05:14,400
take care of our children to
polish our shoes to clean our

2084
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:17,790
toilets. We need this we need
this we're very rich here we

2085
02:05:17,790 --> 02:05:25,770
need that. Where's anyway stupid
I got a boots on the ground from

2086
02:05:25,770 --> 02:05:29,970
the region. From the realest
region, the region would be the

2087
02:05:29,970 --> 02:05:37,710
Red Sea region regarding the the
boat, the museum the tourist

2088
02:05:37,710 --> 02:05:38,340
attraction,

2089
02:05:38,940 --> 02:05:40,860
John C Dvorak: oh yes, yes, we
need a boots on the ground

2090
02:05:40,860 --> 02:05:41,520
report on that.

2091
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:43,710
Adam Curry: boots on the ground
reports secondhand boots on the

2092
02:05:43,710 --> 02:05:46,650
ground here doing some
significant tile work for a

2093
02:05:46,650 --> 02:05:50,070
higher up at traveler's
insurance. I started talking to

2094
02:05:50,070 --> 02:05:53,160
him about supply chain you fill
me in about the first boat that

2095
02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:56,610
was taken and turned into a
tourist attraction. See?

2096
02:05:57,090 --> 02:05:59,790
John C Dvorak: This is good.
Hilarious already.

2097
02:05:59,820 --> 02:06:03,630
Adam Curry: This is good.
Travelers insures that ship. He

2098
02:06:03,630 --> 02:06:06,930
says that the ransom for the
crew was $5 million, and they

2099
02:06:06,930 --> 02:06:10,530
are about to cut a check for it.
The owner of the boat company

2100
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:13,830
Meyer SC doesn't want the check
to be cut but instead wants

2101
02:06:13,830 --> 02:06:17,970
travelers to send in a squad to
extract the crew. Traveler says

2102
02:06:17,970 --> 02:06:21,060
No way. He's trying to get the
crew released via the ransom

2103
02:06:21,060 --> 02:06:27,360
payment instead. So ransom that
no one mentioned that part. I

2104
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:29,520
John C Dvorak: haven't heard
anything about a ransom. No, of

2105
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:31,860
course, all I heard was about
the tourist attraction, which I

2106
02:06:31,860 --> 02:06:34,650
still think probably bullcrap.
But it's great

2107
02:06:34,650 --> 02:06:38,820
Adam Curry: story. And then,
overnight, we had a little

2108
02:06:38,820 --> 02:06:43,500
kerfuffle between Iran and
Pakistan. And the minute I heard

2109
02:06:43,500 --> 02:06:47,190
the report, I remembered this
region.

2110
02:06:47,220 --> 02:06:49,710
Unknown: What do we know about
the Pakistan strikes?

2111
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:53,820
They say that they've targeted
Aluche militants. That's a

2112
02:06:53,820 --> 02:06:57,840
separatist group that actually
operates within Pakistan. But

2113
02:06:57,840 --> 02:07:01,890
they're saying they targeted
them on Iranian territory. But

2114
02:07:01,890 --> 02:07:06,330
of course, this is widely being
seen as retaliation or a show of

2115
02:07:06,330 --> 02:07:10,710
strength after Iran actually
conducted missile and airstrikes

2116
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:14,460
on Pakistan's territory on a
militant group a few days ago.

2117
02:07:14,820 --> 02:07:18,990
So now both Pakistan and Iran
have now attacked militants on

2118
02:07:18,990 --> 02:07:22,290
each other's soil, could this
escalate further? It's quite

2119
02:07:22,290 --> 02:07:24,810
unclear what's going to happen
next. But there are real

2120
02:07:24,810 --> 02:07:28,890
concerns and fears, particularly
here in Islamabad that things

2121
02:07:28,890 --> 02:07:32,430
could escalate. Pakistan's
caretaker Prime Minister was in

2122
02:07:32,430 --> 02:07:35,400
Davos for the World Economic
Forum. And he has actually said

2123
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:39,510
he's cutting short his trip and
coming back to Pakistan in the

2124
02:07:39,510 --> 02:07:43,980
wake of these strikes. However,
analysts have spoken to have

2125
02:07:43,980 --> 02:07:48,780
said that Pakistan probably
wouldn't want an escalation, and

2126
02:07:48,780 --> 02:07:52,740
that players such as China,
which has ties with both Iran

2127
02:07:52,740 --> 02:07:57,120
and Pakistan, could well step in
to try and help temper down the

2128
02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:57,930
tensions.

2129
02:07:58,350 --> 02:08:01,680
And how do these exchanges fit
into the wider conflict in the

2130
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:02,340
Middle East,

2131
02:08:02,580 --> 02:08:07,530
it is quite difficult to say
Iran, nations actually remain

2132
02:08:07,530 --> 02:08:13,140
quite opaque for the initial
stripes. However, Iran has also

2133
02:08:13,140 --> 02:08:17,730
carried out strides on Iraq and
Syria in recent days and around

2134
02:08:17,730 --> 02:08:22,470
foreign minister has indicated
that it did target militants

2135
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:25,770
that it said will link to Israel
within Pakistan, though we don't

2136
02:08:25,770 --> 02:08:28,830
have a lot more information on
that and Pakistan and the

2137
02:08:28,830 --> 02:08:32,250
militant group involved have not
said anything on that. But

2138
02:08:32,250 --> 02:08:35,190
obviously there are concerns
that it could be part of these

2139
02:08:35,190 --> 02:08:37,770
broader regional escalations.
This

2140
02:08:37,770 --> 02:08:42,300
Adam Curry: is That's bull crap.
This is Baluchistan. And since I

2141
02:08:42,300 --> 02:08:45,810
remember things so well
Baluchistan, that is right by

2142
02:08:45,810 --> 02:08:49,800
the Afghan border. We had drones
flying around all the time. This

2143
02:08:49,800 --> 02:08:55,050
was a huge problem because of
pipelines, and some other

2144
02:08:55,050 --> 02:09:00,960
things. And if we go back to
Episode 1273, from 2020 This was

2145
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:03,660
one of your clips. This is about
Belton road.

2146
02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:05,610
Unknown: In June, the CCP
launched its plans for a

2147
02:09:05,610 --> 02:09:09,480
transportation corridor to
Uzbekistan, that goes through

2148
02:09:09,480 --> 02:09:13,140
Kurdistan as business news
website and telling his reports

2149
02:09:13,140 --> 02:09:16,320
whoever the program to build a
railway has met with quote

2150
02:09:16,350 --> 02:09:20,100
unending construction delays.
The program now relies on

2151
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:23,070
freight shipping through
Kurdistan where anti CCP

2152
02:09:23,070 --> 02:09:26,340
sentiments are growing and the
issues that CCP faces in

2153
02:09:26,340 --> 02:09:29,070
Kurdistan are similar to what
the Chinese regime is facing and

2154
02:09:29,070 --> 02:09:33,570
similar projects, including in
Tajikistan, and Balochistan. And

2155
02:09:33,570 --> 02:09:37,590
all of these areas, China is
becoming the target of terrorist

2156
02:09:37,590 --> 02:09:40,770
and nationalist movements that
are increasingly viewing the

2157
02:09:40,770 --> 02:09:44,700
regime as their main enemy. To
counter this, the CCP has been

2158
02:09:44,700 --> 02:09:47,760
giving training to local
government forces and also

2159
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:51,330
encouraging them to defend
China's shipping lines on its

2160
02:09:51,330 --> 02:09:55,380
behalf. But it's now becoming
clear this may not be enough.

2161
02:09:55,740 --> 02:09:58,110
Now, where's this all heading?
When it comes to the way the

2162
02:09:58,110 --> 02:10:00,690
Chinese Communist Party is
trying to protect it? supply

2163
02:10:00,690 --> 02:10:03,570
chains when it comes to shipping
along this, say One Belt, One

2164
02:10:03,570 --> 02:10:06,210
Road initiative, its current
method when dealing with

2165
02:10:06,210 --> 02:10:09,210
terrorist organizations and
others is to get the local

2166
02:10:09,210 --> 02:10:12,810
countries to defend its own
supply chains. These countries a

2167
02:10:12,810 --> 02:10:15,690
lot of times, however, do not
want to get involved with

2168
02:10:15,690 --> 02:10:18,750
terrorist organizations and
fighting against them on behalf

2169
02:10:18,750 --> 02:10:22,470
of the Chinese Communist Party.
And so the CCP is now being left

2170
02:10:22,470 --> 02:10:25,440
with that effort. And what's it
going to do well as two options,

2171
02:10:25,650 --> 02:10:29,970
one is send the Chinese military
in to protect its supply chains,

2172
02:10:30,060 --> 02:10:33,060
but doing that as sensitive as
well, because for example,

2173
02:10:33,060 --> 02:10:35,340
imagine that the Chinese
military gets in a shootout with

2174
02:10:35,340 --> 02:10:38,010
different to say, you know,
radical groups of one kind or

2175
02:10:38,010 --> 02:10:40,290
another in these countries.
Well, it's gonna look a whole

2176
02:10:40,290 --> 02:10:43,290
lot like what happened in India
along this border dispute where

2177
02:10:43,290 --> 02:10:46,470
the Chinese military killed
around 20 Indian soldiers and

2178
02:10:46,470 --> 02:10:49,500
turn pretty much all of India
against the CCP.

2179
02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:52,620
Adam Curry: This is Belton road
this is someone messing with the

2180
02:10:52,620 --> 02:10:57,240
Chinese and it may be us for all
I know I'm convinces us Yeah,

2181
02:10:57,270 --> 02:11:01,230
then probably and I'm also the
Ron cook keeps keep coming

2182
02:11:01,230 --> 02:11:03,480
John C Dvorak: back don't let it
go directly at Iran. But you

2183
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:05,790
know what, what nation has
nukes?

2184
02:11:06,510 --> 02:11:10,530
Adam Curry: Via Pakistan, India,
Pakistan, Pakistan Pakistan has

2185
02:11:10,530 --> 02:11:11,190
nukes Yeah, and

2186
02:11:11,190 --> 02:11:13,170
John C Dvorak: now you want to
get their phony baloney

2187
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:18,270
conflagration with Iran and
Pakistan and then a nuke goes

2188
02:11:18,270 --> 02:11:21,660
flying and hits some I don't
know the Enclave or all the

2189
02:11:21,660 --> 02:11:26,250
Mulas live you know the housing
development boom blow that up

2190
02:11:26,250 --> 02:11:28,620
affordable housing for the
moolah affordable housing for

2191
02:11:28,620 --> 02:11:35,040
them and and oh Pakistan Oh then
then you create all kinds of

2192
02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:41,100
issues because now you got to do
a more bigger look at

2193
02:11:41,310 --> 02:11:44,820
disarmament and all these other
things because it was careless

2194
02:11:44,820 --> 02:11:47,730
or was an accident or and we got
nothing to do with it. We're

2195
02:11:47,730 --> 02:11:52,320
over here trying to be your
shoot a few who's the basis? I

2196
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:53,490
do have a three by three foot I

2197
02:11:54,030 --> 02:11:56,430
Adam Curry: was hoping you'd
have on an hour time for a three

2198
02:11:56,430 --> 02:12:00,720
by three everybody experiment by
JC D here we go everyone

2199
02:12:00,720 --> 02:12:12,840
comparing ABC CBS and NBC my
buddy my buddy Michael actually

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02:12:12,840 --> 02:12:16,290
the whole band Mercy Me they
always say that whenever that

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02:12:16,290 --> 02:12:19,620
day get happy when they hear the
jingle the three by three jingle

2202
02:12:19,620 --> 02:12:22,680
they get happy. Say Happy
jingles happy jingle and they're

2203
02:12:22,680 --> 02:12:24,780
just happy because they know
something good is coming. We're

2204
02:12:24,780 --> 02:12:28,710
gonna we're gonna we're going to
see how the media gets all of

2205
02:12:28,710 --> 02:12:32,790
its information from one source
game one system one source and

2206
02:12:33,090 --> 02:12:36,060
including the sound effects
everything. What do we have in

2207
02:12:36,060 --> 02:12:36,420
today's

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02:12:37,020 --> 02:12:39,300
John C Dvorak: first of all, we
have the same big three but I do

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02:12:39,300 --> 02:12:44,280
have the bonus again this show
BBC bonus. Always different is

2210
02:12:44,280 --> 02:12:48,360
gonna be CBC. The Scandinavian
bonus. Right? Yeah. So let's

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02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:49,470
start with ABC,

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02:12:49,530 --> 02:12:51,300
Adam Curry: ABC, everybody. Here
we go.

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02:12:52,890 --> 02:12:55,590
Unknown: desperate search for
two Navy SEALs missing at sea in

2214
02:12:55,590 --> 02:12:58,680
the Gulf of Aden during that
during nighttime mission. These

2215
02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:01,740
new images tonight showing the
US efforts to disrupt the flow

2216
02:13:01,740 --> 02:13:05,010
of weapons to Iranian backed
Houthi rebels while boarding a

2217
02:13:05,010 --> 02:13:07,890
suspected Yemeni weapons
smuggling boat. One Navy SEAL

2218
02:13:07,920 --> 02:13:11,910
fell into the sea following
protocol. Another senior NCO

2219
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:15,330
jumping in after him the
operation continuing with the

2220
02:13:15,330 --> 02:13:18,930
seals seizing these weapons
revealed in new images tonight,

2221
02:13:19,260 --> 02:13:22,170
materials used to build
missiles, the same weapons

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02:13:22,170 --> 02:13:25,620
deployed by the Houthis and at
least 30 attacks on commercial

2223
02:13:25,620 --> 02:13:27,120
shipping vessels. That's a

2224
02:13:27,120 --> 02:13:30,420
significant operation that they
haven't historically done. So

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02:13:30,420 --> 02:13:33,210
this shows that they're
escalating their interdiction

2226
02:13:33,210 --> 02:13:36,540
operations and they're also
approving things that they

2227
02:13:36,540 --> 02:13:37,350
typically do not.

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02:13:38,850 --> 02:13:41,190
Tonight, the Pentagon saying it
launched another round of

2229
02:13:41,190 --> 02:13:45,060
airstrikes inside Yemen
destroying for hooty anti ship

2230
02:13:45,060 --> 02:13:48,510
ballistic missiles prepared to
launch the operation marks the

2231
02:13:48,510 --> 02:13:51,090
third round of retaliatory
strikes against the Houthis

2232
02:13:51,180 --> 02:13:54,900
since Thursday amid the ongoing
attack on vessels in the Red Sea

2233
02:13:55,050 --> 02:13:58,350
and the Gulf of Aden since mid
November, disrupting one of the

2234
02:13:58,350 --> 02:14:02,130
world's busiest shipping routes.
And National Security Adviser

2235
02:14:02,130 --> 02:14:05,220
Jake Sullivan warning there
could be additional strikes,

2236
02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:08,790
we anticipated the Houthis would
continue to try to hold this

2237
02:14:08,790 --> 02:14:12,570
critical artery at risk. And we
continue to reserve the right to

2238
02:14:12,570 --> 02:14:15,450
take further action but this
needs to be an all hands on deck

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02:14:15,450 --> 02:14:15,870
effort.

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02:14:16,830 --> 02:14:19,140
And David an official tells us
the White House intends to put

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02:14:19,140 --> 02:14:22,620
the Houthis back on the list of
foreign terrorist organizations

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02:14:22,770 --> 02:14:26,430
after President Biden remove the
group back in 2021. Over

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02:14:26,430 --> 02:14:29,790
concerns that designation would
cripple the enemy the Yemeni

2244
02:14:29,790 --> 02:14:32,460
economy the damage to a famine

2245
02:14:32,490 --> 02:14:36,450
Adam Curry: the enemy Oh send
them into so this this navy seal

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02:14:36,450 --> 02:14:41,580
thing that that got all the play
I think what's Trump going to

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02:14:41,580 --> 02:14:41,940
do?

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02:14:43,080 --> 02:14:44,730
John C Dvorak: Well, first of
all, I want to point something

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02:14:44,730 --> 02:14:45,780
out in that report if

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Adam Curry: his navy seals are
are all gone, he can't use them

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02:14:49,050 --> 02:14:50,460
to kill his opponents.

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02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:54,240
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
plenty of seal groups, but the

2253
02:14:55,200 --> 02:15:01,560
kid right can't kill the First
Lady. So Ha First Lady. Yes,

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02:15:01,590 --> 02:15:04,080
yeah, they killed the first lady
right there in the White House.

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02:15:06,780 --> 02:15:11,010
He specifically said 30 Houthi
attacks on on the shipping. I

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02:15:11,010 --> 02:15:12,390
thought it was 150.

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02:15:14,190 --> 02:15:16,920
Adam Curry: Well, this is the
Gulf of Aden. All of a sudden

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02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:18,630
this is no longer the red so
yeah, but

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02:15:18,630 --> 02:15:21,210
John C Dvorak: it's still Houthi
attacks on commercial shipping,

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02:15:21,360 --> 02:15:25,530
I thought was 150 attacks 150
missiles 150 something or other?

2261
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:32,670
And he specifically said 30, not
3133 2930. When did that number

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02:15:32,670 --> 02:15:33,210
change?

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02:15:33,270 --> 02:15:35,640
Adam Curry: I don't know. But
it's it's a number change. Let

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02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:38,100
me guess. Did everybody
mentioned 30?

2265
02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:39,900
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
they do. Let's find out by

2266
02:15:39,900 --> 02:15:41,610
listening to the NBC report

2267
02:15:41,610 --> 02:15:44,310
Unknown: tonight the US striking
back against Houthi rebels in

2268
02:15:44,310 --> 02:15:48,000
Yemen again, destroying an anti
ship ballistic missile launcher

2269
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:51,510
that the US says was preparing
to attack ships in the Red Sea.

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02:15:51,540 --> 02:15:55,020
We anticipated the Houthis would
continue to try to hold this

2271
02:15:55,020 --> 02:15:58,800
critical artery at risk. And we
continue to reserve the right to

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02:15:58,800 --> 02:15:59,730
take further action.

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02:15:59,760 --> 02:16:02,580
It comes after the Houthis hit a
commercial ship with a missile

2274
02:16:02,580 --> 02:16:05,100
today. According to the US
military, the Biden

2275
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:07,440
administration now read
designating the group as a

2276
02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:10,890
foreign terrorist organization.
According to three US officials.

2277
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:14,250
The goal to cut off Houthi
financing. Secretary of State

2278
02:16:14,250 --> 02:16:18,300
Antony Blinken told CNBC Andrew
Ross Sorkin the threat is

2279
02:16:18,300 --> 02:16:20,940
impacting commercial traffic 15%

2280
02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:23,820
of commercial traffic is going
through that strait every single

2281
02:16:23,820 --> 02:16:26,700
day 30% of the world's
containerships we're seeing

2282
02:16:26,700 --> 02:16:28,470
international repercussions for
these attacks.

2283
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:32,220
US officials say Iran continues
to supply Houthi rebels with

2284
02:16:32,220 --> 02:16:34,950
weapons and intelligence
releasing photos of these

2285
02:16:34,950 --> 02:16:38,610
Iranian missile parts headed to
the rebels in Yemen. The weapons

2286
02:16:38,610 --> 02:16:41,910
intercepted when the US Navy
spotted a suspicious boat in the

2287
02:16:41,910 --> 02:16:45,720
Gulf of Aden and sent in a team
of US Navy SEALs. They

2288
02:16:45,720 --> 02:16:49,650
confiscated the missile parts
but not before two US Navy SEALs

2289
02:16:49,680 --> 02:16:52,770
ended up in the rough waters.
They are both still missing

2290
02:16:52,770 --> 02:16:57,120
tonight. The tension with Iran
also playing out on land. US

2291
02:16:57,120 --> 02:17:00,540
officials say Iran launched
multiple ballistic missiles into

2292
02:17:00,540 --> 02:17:04,050
northern Iraq overnight, the
Iranian Revolutionary Guard

2293
02:17:04,050 --> 02:17:07,110
claiming they targeted a spy
base for Israel's intelligence

2294
02:17:07,110 --> 02:17:11,040
agency Mossad in the region. US
officials not confirming that

2295
02:17:11,070 --> 02:17:14,130
saying US military and
diplomatic facilities were not

2296
02:17:14,130 --> 02:17:18,090
impacted and that civilians
including children were killed

2297
02:17:18,090 --> 02:17:22,470
in the missile attack. Sparking
protests in the streets in

2298
02:17:22,470 --> 02:17:25,620
Erbil. The White House
condemning the attacks as

2299
02:17:25,620 --> 02:17:27,060
reckless and imprecise

2300
02:17:27,089 --> 02:17:30,029
Adam Curry: very different
reports. Yeah, I noticed

2301
02:17:30,029 --> 02:17:31,049
different very did

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02:17:31,049 --> 02:17:34,199
John C Dvorak: they have the
same elements of the seals and

2303
02:17:34,199 --> 02:17:37,019
then they have the bass there
were no 30 They didn't have the

2304
02:17:37,019 --> 02:17:39,929
number 30 They didn't have a 30
and they didn't have and they

2305
02:17:39,929 --> 02:17:42,809
added this new thing about the
attack in Iraq.

2306
02:17:42,839 --> 02:17:44,939
Adam Curry: Yeah, throw the kids
you know, they're gonna lose

2307
02:17:44,939 --> 02:17:49,319
viewers with this people are
zoning out the Oh, first of all,

2308
02:17:49,349 --> 02:17:53,909
you know, Windows Security
defender. Okay,

2309
02:17:53,940 --> 02:17:55,500
John C Dvorak: so you have a
problem? Yeah, I

2310
02:17:55,500 --> 02:18:02,970
Adam Curry: guess. Everything
reboots I think this is bad for

2311
02:18:02,970 --> 02:18:06,360
ratings. People don't want know
where the where the Gulf of Aden

2312
02:18:06,360 --> 02:18:08,310
is. They don't know where
they'll go anything they don't

2313
02:18:08,700 --> 02:18:11,580
feel anything we know where it
is because that's where the

2314
02:18:12,240 --> 02:18:13,590
that's where the portal is.

2315
02:18:14,610 --> 02:18:17,010
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a
stargate there are you know what

2316
02:18:17,010 --> 02:18:18,150
comes in and out of that thing?

2317
02:18:18,180 --> 02:18:20,370
Adam Curry: Tell me fish.

2318
02:18:20,970 --> 02:18:24,840
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Alright,
so,

2319
02:18:25,200 --> 02:18:29,640
Adam Curry: next CBS CBS CBS CB
alright. CBS Come on. termI on

2320
02:18:29,640 --> 02:18:35,220
demand. The assault of guys
continued today. I liked the

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02:18:35,220 --> 02:18:37,830
other they're connecting it to
Gaza right away good.

2322
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:40,800
Unknown: But Israel's fight
against Hamas has triggered a

2323
02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:45,150
dramatic escalation in attacks
across the region, the region

2324
02:18:45,600 --> 02:18:49,080
off the coast of Yemen. New
Video shows Iranian backed

2325
02:18:49,080 --> 02:18:52,800
Houthi ease in a song and dance
with new recruits aboard the

2326
02:18:52,800 --> 02:18:58,440
Galaxy leader cargo ship seized
back in November now turned into

2327
02:18:58,530 --> 02:19:02,460
part trophy, part floating
amusement park off the coast of

2328
02:19:02,460 --> 02:19:06,900
Yemen and a propaganda tool used
to make a mockery of the

2329
02:19:06,900 --> 02:19:11,340
American led threats. But
following last week's US UK

2330
02:19:11,340 --> 02:19:16,140
bombardment, those threats turn
to action again. The US military

2331
02:19:16,140 --> 02:19:19,740
says fighter jets struck for
anti ship ballistic missiles

2332
02:19:19,800 --> 02:19:24,360
preparing to launch from Houthi
territory in Yemen. Barely 24

2333
02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:28,860
hours after an attack on a US
operated cargo ship. A Greek own

2334
02:19:28,860 --> 02:19:32,580
ship was struck today by a
Houthi missile in the Red Sea.

2335
02:19:32,970 --> 02:19:37,020
Near the coast of Somalia. The
US military released these new

2336
02:19:37,020 --> 02:19:41,940
images Iranian supplied warheads
and missile parts confiscated

2337
02:19:41,940 --> 02:19:45,870
from this ship headed to Houthi
militants in Yemen. In an

2338
02:19:45,900 --> 02:19:50,370
operation in which two Navy
SEALs were lost at sea. We'll

2339
02:19:50,370 --> 02:19:52,950
have to continue the World
Economic Forum in Davos,

2340
02:19:52,950 --> 02:19:56,430
Switzerland White House National
Security Adviser Jake Sullivan

2341
02:19:56,430 --> 02:20:00,270
said this goes beyond a regional
problem. Global

2342
02:20:00,270 --> 02:20:03,480
Challenge we're talking about a
vital armor artery of global

2343
02:20:03,480 --> 02:20:08,610
commerce. A critical maritime
choke point that's being held

2344
02:20:08,610 --> 02:20:09,330
hostage.

2345
02:20:10,320 --> 02:20:14,640
Despite us lead attempts, the
Houthi say they'll keep hitting

2346
02:20:14,670 --> 02:20:19,110
that choke point as long as
Israel keeps hitting Gaza and

2347
02:20:19,110 --> 02:20:22,440
there's no sign tonight of
either those battles coming to

2348
02:20:22,440 --> 02:20:24,750
an end anytime soon. Okay, so

2349
02:20:24,750 --> 02:20:27,360
Adam Curry: we have three
distinct different reports and I

2350
02:20:28,080 --> 02:20:30,630
John C Dvorak: think this three
by three is having an effect

2351
02:20:31,080 --> 02:20:31,620
Yes, the

2352
02:20:33,210 --> 02:20:37,590
Adam Curry: damn man does those
new agenda guys are onto us. Mix

2353
02:20:37,590 --> 02:20:41,100
it up, people put the amusement
park in there, which was a nice

2354
02:20:41,100 --> 02:20:48,240
touch. Now I think this this
something was a surprise. It was

2355
02:20:48,270 --> 02:20:52,290
the news media has no idea
there's not that don't have the

2356
02:20:52,290 --> 02:20:56,640
only sources say they have in
there as well. But putting it

2357
02:20:56,640 --> 02:21:00,270
back on the terrorist list, they
don't know what to do. There is

2358
02:21:00,270 --> 02:21:03,570
no central information source
that is that is giving them

2359
02:21:03,570 --> 02:21:07,260
details this this was not
planned something I'm having to

2360
02:21:07,260 --> 02:21:10,140
agree with something went awry.
And especially if we lose some

2361
02:21:10,140 --> 02:21:13,590
seals, you know, this is not
good. That's the only human

2362
02:21:13,590 --> 02:21:19,260
interest we have is the seal
part of the story. So what do

2363
02:21:19,260 --> 02:21:19,860
Canadians

2364
02:21:19,860 --> 02:21:21,840
John C Dvorak: have to say about
this a CBC.

2365
02:21:24,840 --> 02:21:28,410
Unknown: Even as the US and UK
launched those first strikes

2366
02:21:28,410 --> 02:21:31,770
against Houthi militants last
week, the US suggested more

2367
02:21:31,770 --> 02:21:35,820
would likely follow. Now they
have today more Houthi military

2368
02:21:35,820 --> 02:21:39,810
targets. In this case, anti ship
missiles have been hit by

2369
02:21:39,810 --> 02:21:44,310
American forces unto itself
underlining that Houthi forces

2370
02:21:44,310 --> 02:21:47,820
while degraded by the earlier
attacks are still able to carry

2371
02:21:47,820 --> 02:21:52,440
out strikes themselves. Indeed,
word a Maltese flagged cargo

2372
02:21:52,440 --> 02:21:56,100
ship was hit today. And
yesterday for the first time a

2373
02:21:56,100 --> 02:22:01,080
US owned cargo ship. Damage was
minor in both cases, and there

2374
02:22:01,080 --> 02:22:02,310
were no injuries

2375
02:22:02,400 --> 02:22:06,090
in the face of naked aggression.
We are not turning inward. US

2376
02:22:06,090 --> 02:22:09,480
national security adviser Jake
Sullivan today in Davos,

2377
02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:10,080
Switzerland,

2378
02:22:10,230 --> 02:22:12,960
we did not say when we launched
our tax they're going to end

2379
02:22:12,960 --> 02:22:15,990
once and for all, the Houthis
will be fully deterred. We

2380
02:22:15,990 --> 02:22:18,630
continue to reserve the right to
take further action. The

2381
02:22:18,630 --> 02:22:22,440
US said today it's not looking
for war. And while the Houthi is

2382
02:22:22,440 --> 02:22:25,200
linked their attacks to
supporting Palestinians in the

2383
02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:29,880
Israeli war against Hamas in
Gaza. The US said again, its

2384
02:22:29,910 --> 02:22:34,320
response to the Houthi attacks
is based solely on the threat to

2385
02:22:34,320 --> 02:22:36,360
the global economy. countries

2386
02:22:36,390 --> 02:22:39,270
and companies that have nothing
to do with Middle East

2387
02:22:39,270 --> 02:22:42,960
whatsoever are being affected
more than 50 nations in nearly

2388
02:22:42,960 --> 02:22:46,530
30 attacks. And so it's a crisis
that the whole world needs to

2389
02:22:46,530 --> 02:22:47,370
respond to.

2390
02:22:47,550 --> 02:22:51,540
But it's ratcheted tensions in
the region broadly. Today

2391
02:22:51,570 --> 02:22:55,290
reports the US is set to
officially label Houthi rebels

2392
02:22:55,410 --> 02:23:00,060
as specially designated global
terrorists, which means the US

2393
02:23:00,090 --> 02:23:03,150
will be able to block their
assets among other punishments.

2394
02:23:03,390 --> 02:23:07,740
Last week, the US seized Iranian
made missile components bound

2395
02:23:07,740 --> 02:23:12,570
for Yemen from an unflagged ship
in the Arabian Sea. Iran backs

2396
02:23:12,570 --> 02:23:14,970
both the Houthis and Hamas

2397
02:23:15,930 --> 02:23:20,940
Adam Curry: and they got Bitcoin
their nose good. Decent analysis

2398
02:23:20,940 --> 02:23:26,520
from the troll room. Navy SEALs
lost at sea no ir beacons on

2399
02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:30,690
helmets no drones in sky the
seals were killed in action and

2400
02:23:30,690 --> 02:23:34,950
reported as missing to avoid
having to escalate that's a good

2401
02:23:34,950 --> 02:23:35,430
point.

2402
02:23:35,730 --> 02:23:37,140
John C Dvorak: That would make
sense that

2403
02:23:37,140 --> 02:23:40,350
Adam Curry: would that would
make sense that so they're lying

2404
02:23:40,350 --> 02:23:41,970
to us. Oh, surprise.

2405
02:23:42,000 --> 02:23:46,830
John C Dvorak: Wait, what lies
in the media

2406
02:23:46,890 --> 02:23:48,660
Adam Curry: and with that, I'd
like to thank you for your

2407
02:23:48,660 --> 02:23:51,600
courage in the morning to you
the man who put the sea in

2408
02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:54,300
Colonel DeVore ag ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend

2409
02:23:55,080 --> 02:23:56,250
John Cena

2410
02:23:59,520 --> 02:24:02,010
John C Dvorak: Mr and creative
Marcia, seabirds and Rafi near

2411
02:24:02,010 --> 02:24:04,140
subs the word of their games and
nights out there in

2412
02:24:04,140 --> 02:24:11,820
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls at to buck 24 We've got

2413
02:24:11,850 --> 02:24:16,200
1817 Trolls listening in on the
troll room

2414
02:24:17,460 --> 02:24:19,590
John C Dvorak: that are there
that's that's actually right on

2415
02:24:19,590 --> 02:24:19,950
the money.

2416
02:24:20,340 --> 02:24:22,890
Adam Curry: Money you're on the
money trolls you're on the money

2417
02:24:22,890 --> 02:24:26,700
very good. Yes i i heard I was
reminded the other day that

2418
02:24:26,700 --> 02:24:28,950
you're actually a colonel I'm

2419
02:24:28,950 --> 02:24:31,470
John C Dvorak: a Kentucky
Colonel This is a fact Kentucky

2420
02:24:31,470 --> 02:24:36,270
Google it's not a little known
as but it's lightly known. Yeah

2421
02:24:36,300 --> 02:24:38,850
Adam Curry: I'm very very proud
I'm very proud to

2422
02:24:39,360 --> 02:24:41,310
John C Dvorak: tell the story on
horror wish I could tell it

2423
02:24:41,310 --> 02:24:45,210
again yeah you can you can Cyrus
hire I hired to give a speech in

2424
02:24:45,210 --> 02:24:47,820
Connecticut some Kentucky users
we were something there was

2425
02:24:47,820 --> 02:24:50,910
something in the guy who gave
the speech before was the one of

2426
02:24:50,910 --> 02:24:54,780
the editors at info world became
a venture capitalist Stuart

2427
02:24:54,810 --> 02:24:58,110
Alsop Yes, famous guy and I
heard that he had been there the

2428
02:24:58,110 --> 02:25:01,800
year before to give the same
talk. And he had been granted a

2429
02:25:01,800 --> 02:25:05,250
Kentucky Colonel ship. The guy
just mentioned it in passing now

2430
02:25:05,250 --> 02:25:05,820
is that actual

2431
02:25:07,170 --> 02:25:10,380
Adam Curry: military rank is
that it's

2432
02:25:10,380 --> 02:25:13,650
John C Dvorak: a Kentucky thing.
Yeah, I guess his military is

2433
02:25:13,680 --> 02:25:19,380
Colonel. And so I said, Wait a
minute. If he got this, I'm

2434
02:25:19,380 --> 02:25:24,270
getting one. Get me a Kentucky
cry. So I got one signed by the

2435
02:25:24,270 --> 02:25:27,540
governor. The whole thing I got
it's a framed on the wall.

2436
02:25:28,170 --> 02:25:30,840
Adam Curry: You should put it on
your QR Zed profile.

2437
02:25:31,860 --> 02:25:33,870
John C Dvorak: What's that QR
Zed? The QR

2438
02:25:33,870 --> 02:25:36,540
Adam Curry: z.com. Where all the
hams have their profile.

2439
02:25:36,960 --> 02:25:39,420
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, I
should. Hey, I've

2440
02:25:39,420 --> 02:25:41,580
Adam Curry: been getting some
good CUSOs from people on the

2441
02:25:41,580 --> 02:25:44,550
VAR AC. It's working. It's
pretty cool. Oh, you

2442
02:25:44,550 --> 02:25:46,500
John C Dvorak: got this thing up
and running? Yeah, got it up and

2443
02:25:46,500 --> 02:25:49,200
running. Yeah. Been doing lots
of you do it on the computer.

2444
02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:50,190
How do you as it work? It's

2445
02:25:50,190 --> 02:25:52,170
Adam Curry: on the computer.
Yeah. It's like a big chat

2446
02:25:52,170 --> 02:25:53,970
program on the computer yet

2447
02:25:53,970 --> 02:25:56,760
John C Dvorak: press. Gold.
That's got to be exciting. It's

2448
02:25:56,760 --> 02:25:58,200
riveting. It's

2449
02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:03,780
Adam Curry: it's riveting in the
region is great. I can't I was

2450
02:26:03,870 --> 02:26:06,900
talking to Switzerland the other
day on 12 watts. That's pretty

2451
02:26:06,900 --> 02:26:09,360
impressive. Yeah,

2452
02:26:09,390 --> 02:26:11,520
John C Dvorak: yeah. And you can
do it window. All hell breaks

2453
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:13,830
loose. You can still do it.
That's right. That's right. A

2454
02:26:13,830 --> 02:26:19,770
friend of mine. Chris red.
kowski just wrote a book called

2455
02:26:19,800 --> 02:26:23,100
How the C W life or something
like,

2456
02:26:24,390 --> 02:26:27,000
Adam Curry: wow, The CW life is
it this

2457
02:26:27,240 --> 02:26:29,580
John C Dvorak: is called CW
life. And it's all it is is

2458
02:26:29,580 --> 02:26:30,660
about code and

2459
02:26:30,660 --> 02:26:32,340
Adam Curry: euthanasia book.
What is this?

2460
02:26:34,440 --> 02:26:36,690
John C Dvorak: Just you didn't
autograph it? He sent me a copy.

2461
02:26:36,690 --> 02:26:39,180
But I don't think he autographed
it. I want to send it to you.

2462
02:26:39,180 --> 02:26:40,890
Because I figure you'd be Yeah.

2463
02:26:41,280 --> 02:26:44,670
Adam Curry: See, what What about
it was did you read it and you

2464
02:26:44,670 --> 02:26:45,180
didn't read it?

2465
02:26:45,660 --> 02:26:48,810
John C Dvorak: It's hard to
read. You know, it's talking

2466
02:26:48,810 --> 02:26:54,720
about Morse code and how great
it is. And yeah, it is and CW is

2467
02:26:54,720 --> 02:26:55,590
terrific.

2468
02:26:55,620 --> 02:26:59,640
Adam Curry: That's the same as
Morse code. carrier wave CW

2469
02:26:59,700 --> 02:27:04,320
that's Morse code. Yeah. I at a
certain point, I could do 12

2470
02:27:04,320 --> 02:27:05,940
words a minute I was up there.
You

2471
02:27:05,940 --> 02:27:09,630
John C Dvorak: are all in on CW
for a long time. I thought Yeah,

2472
02:27:09,660 --> 02:27:13,170
I was I was and then and you're
getting all jacked up about

2473
02:27:13,170 --> 02:27:18,330
having some of you know, 100
foot long antenna. Long Wave

2474
02:27:18,330 --> 02:27:21,930
stuffing. It's not a you know,
some CW the wire

2475
02:27:21,930 --> 02:27:25,320
Adam Curry: antenna. I like wire
antennas the best actually I do.

2476
02:27:25,320 --> 02:27:28,710
Like why aren't these guys with
these big beams and rotators

2477
02:27:28,710 --> 02:27:29,220
after

2478
02:27:29,220 --> 02:27:32,400
John C Dvorak: this little chit
chat we've just had check the

2479
02:27:32,820 --> 02:27:36,180
check the chat room now to see
how many people left. Okay,

2480
02:27:36,210 --> 02:27:39,630
let's see. I'm guessing is down
to 1600 after talking about ham

2481
02:27:39,630 --> 02:27:41,190
radio station. 76.

2482
02:27:41,190 --> 02:27:41,640
Adam Curry: Baby.

2483
02:27:41,670 --> 02:27:43,830
John C Dvorak: You're right.
Yeah. 200 people you want to

2484
02:27:43,830 --> 02:27:46,020
talk a little more about we'll
get rid of all of that killed

2485
02:27:46,020 --> 02:27:46,320
over

2486
02:27:46,320 --> 02:27:50,130
Adam Curry: dead like ah, can't
listen to the CW ta Hey, man.

2487
02:27:50,130 --> 02:27:53,400
I'm just trying to spice it up a
little bit. Spice it up. We got

2488
02:27:53,400 --> 02:27:56,940
a lot of hams. We got a lot of
hams. We do there the core

2489
02:27:56,940 --> 02:28:03,750
group. Troll room.io is where
you can listen live to the show

2490
02:28:03,750 --> 02:28:07,860
no agenda stream.com It's 24
hours a day, seven days a week.

2491
02:28:08,130 --> 02:28:11,160
All kinds of great podcasts,
lots of live podcast just like

2492
02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:14,100
this one. We do it on Thursdays
and Sundays and people could

2493
02:28:14,100 --> 02:28:17,340
check in it's like having a live
studio audience of trolls. But

2494
02:28:17,370 --> 02:28:20,280
an MMA there's some that are
trolling so hard today. They

2495
02:28:20,280 --> 02:28:23,850
even been been they figured out
how to do incident messaging all

2496
02:28:23,850 --> 02:28:27,210
those bleeps and bloops on my
computer, I'd shut off my my

2497
02:28:27,210 --> 02:28:30,960
sound cards crazy. Hey, buddy
trying to try to get through to

2498
02:28:30,960 --> 02:28:36,300
me. But the trolls, they're
good. They're good. If you can

2499
02:28:36,300 --> 02:28:39,090
also listen, live on a modern
podcast app, you want to have

2500
02:28:39,090 --> 02:28:42,450
one of these you want to import
all of your existing

2501
02:28:42,450 --> 02:28:45,750
subscriptions. If you have Apple
or certainly Google podcast,

2502
02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:49,380
which is going away, you know
that trying to suck it into, oh,

2503
02:28:49,380 --> 02:28:52,500
YouTube Music that'll be great
for podcasts, you good luck with

2504
02:28:52,500 --> 02:28:57,840
that. I get a modern podcast and
modern podcast apps.com. There's

2505
02:28:57,840 --> 02:29:02,040
about 16 of them now. And this
is stuff that will not be the

2506
02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:05,820
platform. That's why you want it
you want to support the the

2507
02:29:05,820 --> 02:29:09,300
developers of this independent
infrastructure and the

2508
02:29:09,330 --> 02:29:13,380
podcasters that use it. You can
do that with value for value. We

2509
02:29:13,380 --> 02:29:17,940
do that here. For 16 years,
we've been giving you the show.

2510
02:29:18,630 --> 02:29:23,220
The show is out there. There's
no paywalls no hoops, anything

2511
02:29:23,220 --> 02:29:26,220
like that. You can download it
just download the file if you

2512
02:29:26,220 --> 02:29:29,730
want people used to put them on
CDs back when we still had CD

2513
02:29:29,730 --> 02:29:33,000
players. That's how long the
show has been around. Distribute

2514
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:37,080
them give people CDs, hey,
listen to this. You like it? Now

2515
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:40,470
just don't play it. The donation
segment. You know the boobs will

2516
02:29:40,470 --> 02:29:42,660
probably the women won't want to
listen to it in your life

2517
02:29:42,660 --> 02:29:48,870
apparently. But the whole idea
is is you determine what it's

2518
02:29:48,870 --> 02:29:51,210
worth to you. Obviously, if
you're listening and you're

2519
02:29:51,210 --> 02:29:55,050
still listening at this point,
it's worth something and just

2520
02:29:55,050 --> 02:29:58,200
turn that into a number send it
back or you can deliver your

2521
02:29:58,200 --> 02:30:01,020
time and your talent which is
like The troll room did right

2522
02:30:01,020 --> 02:30:03,780
there gave me a boots on the
ground, we got people doing all

2523
02:30:03,780 --> 02:30:09,000
kinds of stuff for us helping,
which often is directly

2524
02:30:09,870 --> 02:30:12,990
equatable to treasure, time,
talent or treasure, especially

2525
02:30:12,990 --> 02:30:15,810
if you're maintaining servers
for us or anything like that.

2526
02:30:15,810 --> 02:30:18,690
It's highly appreciated.
Anything you do in return is

2527
02:30:18,690 --> 02:30:22,560
appreciated just hitting someone
in the mouth. All of that really

2528
02:30:22,560 --> 02:30:25,140
does help and keeps the show
rolling. And of course,

2529
02:30:25,140 --> 02:30:28,230
Treasurer is important.
Everybody can afford a couple of

2530
02:30:28,230 --> 02:30:32,040
bucks, you can go to no agenda
donations.com. For those who

2531
02:30:32,040 --> 02:30:37,020
left the support during the
PayPal pocalypse, we now have a

2532
02:30:37,020 --> 02:30:41,430
new payment method we've added
which is stripe. I have no idea

2533
02:30:41,430 --> 02:30:43,590
what that is. What is stripe to

2534
02:30:44,250 --> 02:30:48,330
John C Dvorak: stripe is like a
competitor with square. So they

2535
02:30:48,330 --> 02:30:54,060
compete they compete a bit with
Pay Pal but not exactly the

2536
02:30:54,060 --> 02:30:57,630
same. But they do have it is
alternative is already paid off.

2537
02:30:57,630 --> 02:31:03,630
Because it turns out that in New
Zealand, for example, we have a

2538
02:31:03,630 --> 02:31:07,110
New Zealand, oh, they can't use
a power problem. They can't use

2539
02:31:07,110 --> 02:31:11,130
Pay Pal and they bitch about it.
And I said and I sent one of the

2540
02:31:11,130 --> 02:31:14,910
women who was complaining. I
said we'll check this out. We

2541
02:31:14,910 --> 02:31:19,770
just have implemented Jay did
it. And that Jay is great.

2542
02:31:19,980 --> 02:31:22,260
Adam Curry: She's fantastic.
She's doing all kinds of stuff.

2543
02:31:22,470 --> 02:31:25,230
And I guess no agenda
donations.com That's just our

2544
02:31:25,230 --> 02:31:29,640
new that we're getting rid of
dvorak.org/na, which we had for

2545
02:31:29,640 --> 02:31:31,230
all which children around the

2546
02:31:31,230 --> 02:31:33,510
John C Dvorak: world. Just put
it put a forwarding thing.

2547
02:31:34,080 --> 02:31:34,560
Eventually,

2548
02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:38,250
Adam Curry: eventually, where is
it? Where's the forward when you

2549
02:31:38,250 --> 02:31:43,200
find the password? Don't push
and a so

2550
02:31:43,200 --> 02:31:45,690
John C Dvorak: let me finish the
story, which is that she tried

2551
02:31:45,690 --> 02:31:51,420
it. And it worked fine. Oh,
good. And she tried it. It

2552
02:31:51,420 --> 02:31:54,180
worked fine. She was really
grateful. So this is so for

2553
02:31:54,180 --> 02:31:57,270
people that are overseas and
they can't use PayPal under any

2554
02:31:57,270 --> 02:32:00,660
circumstances. They don't have
checks because God knows you're

2555
02:32:00,660 --> 02:32:04,110
going to have a check. No,
because it's discouraged by the

2556
02:32:04,110 --> 02:32:07,620
banks and he plays but the
United States as they can't

2557
02:32:07,620 --> 02:32:11,700
really donate but now they can
donate and they can go to no

2558
02:32:11,700 --> 02:32:17,760
agenda donations plural.com And
then you can click on the stripe

2559
02:32:17,760 --> 02:32:19,950
thing and you can use stripe if
you want to. And it's also

2560
02:32:19,950 --> 02:32:23,850
people that really don't like
PayPal and even though this we

2561
02:32:23,850 --> 02:32:27,960
like it yeah, that people can
always send us people don't like

2562
02:32:27,960 --> 02:32:30,750
it it's in this cache and
there's also Yeah, you send send

2563
02:32:30,750 --> 02:32:33,150
a check that's the absolute best
way of doing

2564
02:32:33,150 --> 02:32:35,280
Adam Curry: everybody in America
everybody's bank you can

2565
02:32:35,280 --> 02:32:38,400
automatically send a check it'll
just be you just write it off

2566
02:32:38,460 --> 02:32:41,820
goes to the mail shows up that's
fine too. And that's even better

2567
02:32:41,820 --> 02:32:45,930
because there's no fees we have
check cashing fees with our bank

2568
02:32:45,990 --> 02:32:46,350
yes

2569
02:32:46,350 --> 02:32:48,540
John C Dvorak: there is at some
point when you have a there's a

2570
02:32:48,570 --> 02:32:53,010
there's a limited checks once
you get to like 100 checks. All

2571
02:32:53,010 --> 02:32:56,370
checks after that are charged 15
cents off the top but

2572
02:32:56,370 --> 02:32:59,730
Adam Curry: not a percentage. No
no no percentage because PayPal

2573
02:32:59,730 --> 02:33:01,320
man they take these days.

2574
02:33:01,800 --> 02:33:04,170
John C Dvorak: A pal takes a lot
of money. Well they all do.

2575
02:33:04,530 --> 02:33:08,400
Because it's a fee you know you
gotta you gotta cough up to this

2576
02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:08,910
system.

2577
02:33:08,940 --> 02:33:09,360
Adam Curry: Yeah

2578
02:33:10,800 --> 02:33:13,530
John C Dvorak: Yep, so it's not
just Pay Pal is everybody their

2579
02:33:13,530 --> 02:33:18,150
Visa, MasterCard, you name it.
Bastards. Faster

2580
02:33:18,300 --> 02:33:22,530
Adam Curry: masters. Now you can
also do things like make artwork

2581
02:33:22,530 --> 02:33:26,940
for the show. And our artists
have been making art for many

2582
02:33:26,940 --> 02:33:31,590
years. We have a large selection
that seems seems to be coming

2583
02:33:31,590 --> 02:33:35,190
back a little bit now that the
no agenda art generator.com is

2584
02:33:35,190 --> 02:33:38,640
back online and fast. Thank you,
Sir Paul couture, another great

2585
02:33:38,640 --> 02:33:42,840
example of of time and talent
that he gave us. And we want to

2586
02:33:42,840 --> 02:33:45,090
thank capitalist agenda who
bought us the artwork for

2587
02:33:45,090 --> 02:33:51,780
episode 1625 We titled that one
call me Bill. And this was Lloyd

2588
02:33:51,780 --> 02:33:53,490
Austin on a milk carton.

2589
02:33:55,380 --> 02:33:57,900
John C Dvorak: Gray greatest
piece of work. Yeah,

2590
02:33:57,900 --> 02:34:01,380
Adam Curry: I'd actually use
that as the bat signal. And so

2591
02:34:01,410 --> 02:34:05,370
it's rare that we use the same
piece of art for the bat signal

2592
02:34:05,370 --> 02:34:09,480
and for the for the episode show
art but there it is. It was that

2593
02:34:09,480 --> 02:34:12,540
good. It was really we love that
to capitalist agenda. Thank you

2594
02:34:12,540 --> 02:34:17,850
so much. Let us take a look and
see some of the other things

2595
02:34:17,850 --> 02:34:23,580
that people had posted art wise
we had. What did we have here?

2596
02:34:24,540 --> 02:34:27,210
John C Dvorak: Well, there
wasn't a lot. Well,

2597
02:34:27,210 --> 02:34:29,790
Adam Curry: there was Simon
hating me. That was funny.

2598
02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:31,920
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was
cute. There's a lot of cute

2599
02:34:31,920 --> 02:34:35,160
stuff that was probably usable
if we couldn't come up with

2600
02:34:35,160 --> 02:34:36,480
anything better. Yeah.

2601
02:34:38,370 --> 02:34:41,940
Adam Curry: Some laundry stuff
people like the laundry stuff.

2602
02:34:42,300 --> 02:34:46,440
John C Dvorak: And there's also
Yeah, it was a lot of that

2603
02:34:46,440 --> 02:34:49,860
whereas Aaron nourish kind of
cute company strict blogger had

2604
02:34:49,860 --> 02:34:52,620
a few good AI pieces that were
nice.

2605
02:34:52,650 --> 02:34:55,410
Adam Curry: Yeah, there was this
missile confusion that people

2606
02:34:55,410 --> 02:34:57,750
were doing missile but was the I
don't remember when this

2607
02:34:57,900 --> 02:35:00,480
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't
you'll remember that. cuz I mean

2608
02:35:00,480 --> 02:35:03,510
I mean I saw that piece but I
can't remember what the joke

2609
02:35:03,510 --> 02:35:06,990
what it was referring to we have
a dog food eating from the dog

2610
02:35:06,990 --> 02:35:09,720
food bowl which I guess got a
lot of people's attention.

2611
02:35:10,440 --> 02:35:12,960
Scattered disgusted scare

2612
02:35:12,960 --> 02:35:17,430
Adam Curry: Manga The wash coin
minor Pro that was funny fire

2613
02:35:17,430 --> 02:35:20,730
the Zoomer the thermostat. Oh,
that wasn't a really good

2614
02:35:20,730 --> 02:35:24,510
thermostat. I didn't look like a
thermostat that looked like an

2615
02:35:24,510 --> 02:35:27,390
old cassette recorder on the
wall. I don't know what it

2616
02:35:27,390 --> 02:35:31,320
looked like. It looked kind of
weird. So I think really it was

2617
02:35:31,950 --> 02:35:36,090
this was the one for the win
that it was a great piece by

2618
02:35:36,450 --> 02:35:40,350
human capitalist agenda. And he
this is not AI he does this

2619
02:35:40,350 --> 02:35:42,510
stuff. This is what he does,
right? Okay,

2620
02:35:42,540 --> 02:35:44,970
John C Dvorak: this should take
a million prompts to get this

2621
02:35:44,970 --> 02:35:50,160
piece on AI. He's got the 33
ounces on there at the bottom of

2622
02:35:50,160 --> 02:35:53,100
cute now as goodwill. No
capitalist agenda is a pro. He's

2623
02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:53,670
really good.

2624
02:35:53,700 --> 02:35:55,920
Adam Curry: It was beautiful
work really, really well done.

2625
02:35:55,920 --> 02:35:58,590
We appreciate it. And of course,
we appreciate the work that all

2626
02:35:58,590 --> 02:36:01,620
of the artists who thank you so
much is just as we appreciate

2627
02:36:01,620 --> 02:36:05,970
people who will support us with
with $3 $5. It doesn't matter if

2628
02:36:05,970 --> 02:36:10,080
everybody chipped in. I said I
said it chipped in, kept in

2629
02:36:10,650 --> 02:36:13,860
these donations, things would be
very short. This one's actually

2630
02:36:13,860 --> 02:36:17,310
not too long. We're going to
thank our executive producers

2631
02:36:17,310 --> 02:36:20,190
and Associate Executive
producers. This is part of the

2632
02:36:20,220 --> 02:36:24,090
reward that you get just like
Hollywood. Although you know you

2633
02:36:24,090 --> 02:36:26,790
don't get all the benefits of
Hollywood but you do get credits

2634
02:36:26,790 --> 02:36:29,820
here. Karen Bauer from
Vancouver, Washington,

2635
02:36:30,060 --> 02:36:31,290
Vancouver, Washington.

2636
02:36:32,490 --> 02:36:34,890
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Vancouver,
Washington, Southern Washington

2637
02:36:34,890 --> 02:36:37,530
across from Portland is
considered one of the greatest

2638
02:36:37,530 --> 02:36:40,860
places to live because you play
you pay no income tax in

2639
02:36:40,860 --> 02:36:43,890
Washington State. You drive
across the bridge to Portland

2640
02:36:43,890 --> 02:36:48,240
buy everything there because
there's no sales tax. That keeps

2641
02:36:48,450 --> 02:36:52,950
the the Oregonians complained
bitterly about this.

2642
02:36:53,220 --> 02:36:56,010
Adam Curry: I just got a
disturbing note that the the

2643
02:36:56,010 --> 02:37:00,510
milk carton was stolen and
recreated Ben Garrison had it as

2644
02:37:00,510 --> 02:37:04,260
a cartoon last weekend
apparently. Oh my god Stolen

2645
02:37:04,260 --> 02:37:04,830
Valor.

2646
02:37:05,790 --> 02:37:08,280
John C Dvorak: That message.
That information must have come

2647
02:37:08,280 --> 02:37:09,990
in from comic strip blogger.

2648
02:37:10,110 --> 02:37:13,530
Adam Curry: No net net net net
who has who has skin in the game

2649
02:37:13,530 --> 02:37:20,910
Stolen Valor. Oh, that's too
bad. Anyway, back to Karen. And

2650
02:37:21,030 --> 02:37:25,260
she comes in for an executive
producer ship with 350 Shout out

2651
02:37:25,260 --> 02:37:29,280
to the Treasure Valley Boise
Idaho Meetup group A big shout

2652
02:37:29,280 --> 02:37:33,150
out to the hutch man for
organizing. This is my first

2653
02:37:33,150 --> 02:37:36,870
treasure donation. I'll
eventually catch up to my bestie

2654
02:37:36,870 --> 02:37:41,610
Dame Jen ie of the Treasure
Valley says Karen. All right,

2655
02:37:41,610 --> 02:37:44,730
Karen. Thank you very much. We
appreciate it. We really do.

2656
02:37:45,750 --> 02:37:48,540
John C Dvorak: Brian in
Arlington, Texas is up and he

2657
02:37:48,990 --> 02:37:54,810
came in with $234 and he says
executive producer donation this

2658
02:37:54,810 --> 02:37:58,950
brings my total 1093 Blah blah
blah blah blah. Thank you for

2659
02:37:58,950 --> 02:38:01,530
hosting the greatest podcast in
here but he does does he want to

2660
02:38:01,530 --> 02:38:03,120
knighting he doesn't say need to

2661
02:38:03,120 --> 02:38:06,360
Adam Curry: let us know brother.
We have do we have we have

2662
02:38:06,360 --> 02:38:08,160
somebody on the list but not
him. Right?

2663
02:38:09,090 --> 02:38:11,070
John C Dvorak: I don't worry if
it was him. I think it'd be

2664
02:38:11,370 --> 02:38:11,880
mark.

2665
02:38:12,090 --> 02:38:17,640
Adam Curry: No, no, it's not.
Hey, let us know Brian. What do

2666
02:38:17,640 --> 02:38:19,710
you want you yet let us know
where you can give us a name.

2667
02:38:19,710 --> 02:38:20,490
John C Dvorak: Give us a time.

2668
02:38:20,520 --> 02:38:23,490
Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you
for the support 333 dot 33 from

2669
02:38:23,490 --> 02:38:26,730
John Miller and Bernie Texas
right down the road. Huge thank

2670
02:38:26,730 --> 02:38:30,960
you to Chisholm Cook, and cable
Smith of the justified pursuit

2671
02:38:30,960 --> 02:38:35,070
podcast for hitting me in the
mouth back in 2021. Both are

2672
02:38:35,070 --> 02:38:37,650
devout Christians who played a
role in helping you to find

2673
02:38:37,650 --> 02:38:41,220
Christ. Please no exit strategy.
I need to de douching though

2674
02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:48,330
you've been deep I don't know
this justified pursuit podcast I

2675
02:38:48,330 --> 02:38:51,630
shall listen because I gotta
find my fellow white Christians.

2676
02:38:52,170 --> 02:38:55,350
Keep up Yeah, so you can keep
the government up on the

2677
02:38:55,350 --> 02:38:55,800
meeting.

2678
02:38:56,910 --> 02:39:01,920
John C Dvorak: Sir Shogun camas
Washington 33333 Thanks guys.

2679
02:39:01,920 --> 02:39:04,710
Words are great. And if I could
I'd love to I'd love to hear

2680
02:39:04,710 --> 02:39:08,220
some song in the form of the
following jingles Fullmer and

2681
02:39:08,220 --> 02:39:14,430
JCD me no likey thank you for
your courage forest aka sir Chu,

2682
02:39:14,430 --> 02:39:18,930
aka Bo Diddley. Oh my god.

2683
02:39:21,900 --> 02:39:30,330
Adam Curry: Me You're still
good. Connor Bailey from tip

2684
02:39:30,330 --> 02:39:35,250
city, Ohio. 333 33 favorite
number today, ITM gents. First

2685
02:39:35,250 --> 02:39:42,720
time donor please do? Use ben de
duced. I was hitting them out at

2686
02:39:42,720 --> 02:39:45,330
the Central Ohio meetup one year
ago at the time had never

2687
02:39:45,330 --> 02:39:47,490
listened to an episode and I
thought I had just witnessed

2688
02:39:47,490 --> 02:39:54,000
some sort of podcast called I'd
say you kind of did probably you

2689
02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:57,030
did witness a podcast called
interesting that that happened.

2690
02:39:57,300 --> 02:40:00,180
So I listened to Adams Joe Rogan
episode and admired his

2691
02:40:00,180 --> 02:40:03,210
conviction with faith and
Bitcoin I knew I was in the

2692
02:40:03,210 --> 02:40:07,080
right place. Also shout out to
na nation for being supportive

2693
02:40:07,080 --> 02:40:10,890
to those in recovery if you are
go to recovery meetup as well

2694
02:40:10,890 --> 02:40:14,220
connection really is protection.
My favorite is Celebrate

2695
02:40:14,220 --> 02:40:16,770
Recovery more boots on the
ground to come with future

2696
02:40:16,770 --> 02:40:20,160
donations as I work in the belly
of the beast Big Pharma Sorry

2697
02:40:20,160 --> 02:40:22,590
for the long note this time
that's Okay ma'am. No carnamah

2698
02:40:22,590 --> 02:40:25,560
Just jingles Don't eat me Bo
Jaiden and gonna need a Bitcoin

2699
02:40:25,560 --> 02:40:27,930
Connor Bailey columbus ohio

2700
02:40:33,750 --> 02:40:36,150
John C Dvorak: all hell is gonna
break loose and you're gonna

2701
02:40:36,150 --> 02:40:44,580
need a Bitcoin No, a water maker
in Three Rivers California.

2702
02:40:45,000 --> 02:40:51,600
33333 2024 is the year to
donate. So do it. Yeah. Plus,

2703
02:40:51,600 --> 02:40:55,620
you can make them say things
like have this guy design your

2704
02:40:55,620 --> 02:41:00,180
home remodel? He's probably
pretty good at it. John or Adam

2705
02:41:00,180 --> 02:41:03,720
is right. I'm very good. Thank
you for your courage. No of

2706
02:41:03,720 --> 02:41:09,030
wanting to make her sir. Sir.
Quite quite young. So one of the

2707
02:41:09,570 --> 02:41:10,470
best toilets

2708
02:41:10,470 --> 02:41:11,790
Adam Curry: batholith sir.

2709
02:41:13,380 --> 02:41:15,570
John C Dvorak: So he's in Three
Rivers California look him up.

2710
02:41:16,320 --> 02:41:19,920
Adam Curry: 333 33 from Joe
Grillo very, very popular number

2711
02:41:19,920 --> 02:41:23,520
today East township New Jersey.
Hello, jersey. Hello gents. I

2712
02:41:23,520 --> 02:41:26,040
just got buzz kills newsletter
and felt compelled to make my

2713
02:41:26,040 --> 02:41:29,130
second executive producer
donation to the best podcast in

2714
02:41:29,130 --> 02:41:32,520
the universe. You guys make me
laugh? That's, you know, I

2715
02:41:32,520 --> 02:41:35,940
always say it Tina. What do you
like the show says yes. Did you

2716
02:41:35,940 --> 02:41:39,780
laugh? She always says yes. And
if she says then the show was no

2717
02:41:39,780 --> 02:41:43,500
good. If you didn't laugh, then
there's no value. If you

2718
02:41:43,500 --> 02:41:48,120
mentioned my band, the gumbo
Gumbaz on air. It will qualifies

2719
02:41:48,180 --> 02:41:53,040
as gumbo, gumbo, gumbo Goombas
goombazz, the gumbo goombazz.

2720
02:41:53,520 --> 02:41:56,100
They will qualify as an
advertising tax deduction so

2721
02:41:56,100 --> 02:42:00,270
it's a win win all around. The
gumbo Goombas are a delicious

2722
02:42:00,270 --> 02:42:03,660
medley of authentic New Orleans
spaghetti jazz with a side of

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02:42:03,660 --> 02:42:07,290
Creole check out our music on
all digital platforms or YouTube

2724
02:42:07,290 --> 02:42:11,100
Dude get that up and value for
value please get that up in

2725
02:42:11,100 --> 02:42:14,100
value for value. No jingles but
some good karma would be

2726
02:42:14,130 --> 02:42:19,500
appreciated. red rice and a red
beans and rice Lee yours Joe

2727
02:42:19,500 --> 02:42:23,520
Grillo from Joe Grillo
music.com. Okay

2728
02:42:24,960 --> 02:42:27,420
Unknown: good karma you've got
karma

2729
02:42:28,980 --> 02:42:32,160
John C Dvorak: he also has a
website Gumball Goombas COMM And

2730
02:42:32,160 --> 02:42:38,970
goombazz is spelled GUMB A and G
O. Dane bang bang and Buellton

2731
02:42:38,970 --> 02:42:44,490
California Damn it am I wanted
to wish sir DH Slammer I happy

2732
02:42:44,490 --> 02:42:47,700
23rd anniversary after all these
years you're still the one

2733
02:42:47,970 --> 02:42:50,550
thanks for hitting me in the
mouth. Thank you for your

2734
02:42:50,550 --> 02:42:55,170
courage Dane bang make $223.23
years

2735
02:42:55,170 --> 02:43:00,690
Adam Curry: and they never had a
fight Sumit Cana summit Sumit

2736
02:43:00,690 --> 02:43:04,320
comma Chattanooga Tennessee to
20 Thank you for all you do. I

2737
02:43:04,320 --> 02:43:06,750
forgot to mention my last
donation which put me up to

2738
02:43:06,750 --> 02:43:09,840
knighthood that I'd like to be
known as Sir battle penguin.

2739
02:43:10,020 --> 02:43:14,820
Please let people know about
battle penguin.com done Could I

2740
02:43:14,820 --> 02:43:18,000
get an F the EU thank you for
your courage. Sumit Khanna.

2741
02:43:25,380 --> 02:43:31,260
John C Dvorak: Parker Parker
jolly. In montgomery, Texas 200

2742
02:43:31,770 --> 02:43:36,630
Switcheroo Happy Birthday to
Brian jolly this the best older

2743
02:43:36,630 --> 02:43:39,930
brother and Uncle we could ask
for he also happens to be an

2744
02:43:39,960 --> 02:43:43,770
awesome husband and father. Oh,
hope you have your best year

2745
02:43:43,770 --> 02:43:47,100
yet. Please give Brian a D
douching.

2746
02:43:48,780 --> 02:43:51,180
Unknown: You've been de deuced
as

2747
02:43:51,180 --> 02:43:53,970
John C Dvorak: he is the
farthest thing from a douche.

2748
02:43:54,360 --> 02:43:57,930
Some Trump jobs calm would be
helpful to thank you for being a

2749
02:43:57,930 --> 02:44:02,760
great brother slash uncle we'd
love you from Parker, Kristen,

2750
02:44:02,880 --> 02:44:05,850
Derek and bring them jobs,

2751
02:44:05,880 --> 02:44:08,130
Unknown: jobs, jobs.

2752
02:44:13,500 --> 02:44:19,590
John C Dvorak: Online and I read
the next one too, because just

2753
02:44:19,590 --> 02:44:23,310
from Linda Lou patcon in
Lakewood, Colorado 20% chance I

2754
02:44:23,310 --> 02:44:27,630
get to read it. 200 jobs karma
first striking resume that hits

2755
02:44:27,630 --> 02:44:32,670
people in the mouth go to Image
makers inc.com for all, not not

2756
02:44:32,670 --> 02:44:36,810
one, all of your executive
resume and job search needs its

2757
02:44:36,810 --> 02:44:40,860
image makers think with the
k.com or just find Linda Lou

2758
02:44:40,860 --> 02:44:44,160
packin under the show's
producers list. She's been there

2759
02:44:44,160 --> 02:44:47,700
every show for about a year so
moms

2760
02:44:47,850 --> 02:44:52,050
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Jobs.

2761
02:44:54,840 --> 02:44:58,170
Adam Curry: All right. Then we
finally have Lindsey

2762
02:44:58,200 --> 02:45:01,800
Christiansen from Santa Fe New
Max scope $200 No note and

2763
02:45:01,800 --> 02:45:06,930
Charles up John from Nashville.
I'm gonna say that's Tennessee

2764
02:45:06,960 --> 02:45:11,070
$200. Also no note. Well, you
guys should send in notes. But

2765
02:45:11,070 --> 02:45:13,590
until then you both got to
double up karma. Thank you,

2766
02:45:13,650 --> 02:45:21,030
you've got karma. And that
concludes our executive and

2767
02:45:21,030 --> 02:45:25,320
Associate Executive Producer for
episode 1626. You should display

2768
02:45:25,320 --> 02:45:28,620
these credits proudly because
they are real and they are

2769
02:45:28,860 --> 02:45:31,860
accepted anywhere that credits
are recognized, including your

2770
02:45:31,860 --> 02:45:36,480
LinkedIn profile. If you got
business cards, put it in your

2771
02:45:36,510 --> 02:45:39,510
you know that little VCF card
that you have that you send

2772
02:45:39,510 --> 02:45:42,150
everybody when they Here's my
address card, your email, put it

2773
02:45:42,150 --> 02:45:45,000
in there. So people have it on
their phone. So they'll be

2774
02:45:45,000 --> 02:45:49,170
reminded, oh, I'm looking for an
executive producer, or imdb.com

2775
02:45:49,200 --> 02:45:52,020
There's hundreds literally
hundreds of Executive Associate

2776
02:45:52,020 --> 02:45:54,660
Executive Producers there. Don't
let the deuces in Hollywood be

2777
02:45:54,660 --> 02:45:57,540
the only ones you can be that as
well. Thank you so much for

2778
02:45:57,540 --> 02:46:00,390
supporting us here at the best
podcast in the universe. Jon's

2779
02:46:00,390 --> 02:46:02,070
gonna take us through to the 50s
right now.

2780
02:46:02,640 --> 02:46:05,100
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I want to
also thank Sarah for sending me

2781
02:46:05,100 --> 02:46:10,590
some some nuts. You got some
nuts, nuts I got a bunch of

2782
02:46:10,590 --> 02:46:14,970
nuts. I also got a flute. I
didn't get nuts or flute. The

2783
02:46:14,970 --> 02:46:17,610
flute is impossible to play. The
nuts in the field kind

2784
02:46:17,610 --> 02:46:19,200
Adam Curry: of go together
though and it's interesting.

2785
02:46:21,480 --> 02:46:23,580
John C Dvorak: Grayson insurance
is at the top of the list with

2786
02:46:23,580 --> 02:46:28,560
12345 in Aurora Colorado is a
note floating around from them

2787
02:46:28,560 --> 02:46:31,170
but Grayson insurance is
probably somebody you should

2788
02:46:31,170 --> 02:46:34,020
check out why if you live there,
Matt hooker in San Pedro,

2789
02:46:34,020 --> 02:46:38,940
California 12345 Nice some baby
making karma. We'll put that at

2790
02:46:38,940 --> 02:46:42,420
the end with read a Harrington
sparks Nevada donation one one

2791
02:46:42,450 --> 02:46:50,400
8.33. Aaron way Wiberg in
Roberts, Wisconsin 11111. Sir

2792
02:46:50,400 --> 02:46:57,150
Elaine Hart in Buford, Georgia
111 and donating for the

2793
02:46:57,300 --> 02:47:01,320
birthday list. It'll be on your
human resource will be on there.

2794
02:47:02,340 --> 02:47:09,150
Lucas Williams in Roswell, New
Mexico our favorite place $100 I

2795
02:47:09,150 --> 02:47:12,630
still get a big laugh. I think
it was Lucas or somebody else

2796
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:15,720
from Roswell. It sent me a
souvenir from Roswell that it

2797
02:47:15,720 --> 02:47:18,030
was the low alien driver's
license.

2798
02:47:18,060 --> 02:47:21,570
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Yeah. And
the spinning top. Spinning so

2799
02:47:21,570 --> 02:47:21,720
yeah,

2800
02:47:21,720 --> 02:47:25,800
John C Dvorak: I get the same
and the little driver's license

2801
02:47:25,800 --> 02:47:29,130
always gets you'd give it to
people when they ask for ID and

2802
02:47:29,130 --> 02:47:33,000
it's always really you do that?
I have done it more than once.

2803
02:47:33,540 --> 02:47:36,750
Is that when you get carded at
the club? And I've dealt with

2804
02:47:36,870 --> 02:47:42,570
those days are over Brian Ned
doe but the I would Brian you

2805
02:47:42,570 --> 02:47:46,650
get to eat whoever wants to get
this karting thing where? You

2806
02:47:46,860 --> 02:47:49,860
say gotta love your license.
This is why

2807
02:47:51,330 --> 02:47:53,310
Adam Curry: my face? Yeah, look

2808
02:47:53,310 --> 02:47:57,060
John C Dvorak: at me. Do I look
like I'm you know, border 21

2809
02:47:57,450 --> 02:47:58,290
Adam Curry: Look at me.

2810
02:47:59,940 --> 02:48:03,540
John C Dvorak: Yes. No, I just
totally because the boss says I

2811
02:48:03,540 --> 02:48:08,730
have to look at everybody's no
matter what. Brian Nedo in

2812
02:48:08,730 --> 02:48:16,200
Bozeman, Montana. 100 Dame black
loca in Smithville, Texas 100.

2813
02:48:16,380 --> 02:48:20,910
Just to send a note in that was
kind of interesting because it

2814
02:48:20,910 --> 02:48:23,040
was a piece of on a piece of
burnt paper.

2815
02:48:23,310 --> 02:48:25,920
Adam Curry: That was a cool
note. I liked that. I liked the

2816
02:48:25,920 --> 02:48:27,030
whole presentation.

2817
02:48:28,500 --> 02:48:32,940
John C Dvorak: Was she's the one
who sent the flute. And it's a

2818
02:48:32,940 --> 02:48:35,880
glass fluid. Dynamite I'm
surprised and get blank. When

2819
02:48:35,940 --> 02:48:37,860
Adam Curry: are you sure this
isn't a crack pipe and you just

2820
02:48:37,860 --> 02:48:39,870
mistaking it for flu? No,
believe me.

2821
02:48:40,170 --> 02:48:40,530
Unknown: Okay,

2822
02:48:40,590 --> 02:48:44,460
John C Dvorak: it's got two
holes all over the place. It's

2823
02:48:44,460 --> 02:48:49,290
not like doesn't look anything
like a pipe at all? Well it's

2824
02:48:49,290 --> 02:48:56,910
just almost I mean, I if I knew
a flutist I could probably have

2825
02:48:56,910 --> 02:48:58,230
something. Play it but

2826
02:48:58,920 --> 02:49:03,150
Adam Curry: yeah, yeah, that's
yeah. You need to pucker your

2827
02:49:03,150 --> 02:49:09,690
lips. Okay, okay. Okay. Listen,
let me you want me to check the

2828
02:49:09,690 --> 02:49:10,590
troll room now.

2829
02:49:13,650 --> 02:49:15,930
John C Dvorak: Anyway, she lost
300

2830
02:49:15,960 --> 02:49:18,060
Adam Curry: We lost 300 Thanks
to your fluting.

2831
02:49:18,180 --> 02:49:21,630
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I'm
trying to get rid of all she

2832
02:49:21,630 --> 02:49:24,870
says she likes the she gave me a
that's an instruction sheet.

2833
02:49:24,900 --> 02:49:25,710
Adam Curry: I guarantee you.

2834
02:49:27,840 --> 02:49:33,990
John C Dvorak: I guarantee it's
not a Tracy Sullivan and Johnny

2835
02:49:33,990 --> 02:49:39,630
bananas is in it at 314 They all
say Hello sweet Hayward was

2836
02:49:39,930 --> 02:49:42,450
Adam Curry: that was from Texas
hot glass. I think that's black

2837
02:49:42,450 --> 02:49:45,630
day mocha. She's from Texas hot
glass. That's who makes those.

2838
02:49:47,700 --> 02:49:50,460
John C Dvorak: Was the glass
work is dynamite. And

2839
02:49:50,460 --> 02:49:53,280
Adam Curry: she's really good.
She said she sent us a thing

2840
02:49:53,280 --> 02:49:57,120
back when I was still smoking a
holy herb man. She sent me a

2841
02:49:57,120 --> 02:49:58,470
bong. It was beautiful.

2842
02:50:02,429 --> 02:50:05,939
John C Dvorak: Kevin McLaughlin
in Concord North Carolina 808

2843
02:50:05,939 --> 02:50:09,839
double treble double the fun you
gotta love the magic of boobs up

2844
02:50:09,839 --> 02:50:12,509
there goes another listener. Oh,
there we go. We're losing unless

2845
02:50:12,509 --> 02:50:20,489
Zachary Hannah 6033 from
Cypress, Texas. Sir Kevin

2846
02:50:20,489 --> 02:50:27,389
O'Brien in Chicago 6006 with
small boobs. Zachary Maywood in

2847
02:50:27,389 --> 02:50:32,099
Los Angeles fit this eight to
the six James Edmondson is out

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Plainfield, New Jersey for the
510 Dean Roker to the 510. Sir,

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02:50:37,139 --> 02:50:43,379
to Giunta in Dayton, Ohio. 55
He's of the ditch people. Todd

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02:50:43,379 --> 02:50:50,459
zit, the unvaccinated in Chicago
55 He's been a douchebag USA D

2851
02:50:50,459 --> 02:50:57,179
douching. You've been D deuced.
Dave Sorensen in winter of

2852
02:50:57,179 --> 02:51:00,989
Washington. Oh, he's been to
douche bag sorry.

2853
02:51:01,710 --> 02:51:05,340
Adam Curry: About Tom Woods
donation. There it is. Tom Woods

2854
02:51:05,340 --> 02:51:09,750
donation. You've been D deuced.

2855
02:51:11,760 --> 02:51:13,980
John C Dvorak: Tom Woods
donation about that. Michael

2856
02:51:13,980 --> 02:51:17,430
Thompson a new brown fells Texas
is 50 and the following people

2857
02:51:17,430 --> 02:51:21,210
are all 50s name and location
starting with Chris Wallace

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02:51:21,240 --> 02:51:23,550
starting with Michael Thompson.
But then Chris Lewinsky in

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02:51:23,550 --> 02:51:29,340
Sherwood Park, Phillip blue in
Louisville. Michael Pirot.

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02:51:29,400 --> 02:51:34,260
Parrot parrot in Salem, Oregon
Kelly make a deal in Mission

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02:51:34,260 --> 02:51:40,710
Hills, Kansas. Joshua Barlow in
Brighton, Colorado, Peter Peter

2862
02:51:40,710 --> 02:51:47,430
odo todo in Ridge, New York
Tatiana prints in Hollywood,

2863
02:51:47,430 --> 02:51:49,410
Florida, Nathan Cochran, and

2864
02:51:50,460 --> 02:51:54,660
Adam Curry: I see you Nathan.
Hey brother. Joan.

2865
02:51:55,560 --> 02:52:00,270
John C Dvorak: Pull up polls
polls in Hernando beach person

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02:52:00,270 --> 02:52:06,060
of merit comics in Columbus
Ohio. Scott lavandera our buddy

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02:52:06,060 --> 02:52:11,040
in Montgomery, Texas, gadget
freak 10 in Western Springs,

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02:52:11,040 --> 02:52:14,130
Illinois, Cory Bennett in
Denver, Colorado Alexandre ver

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02:52:14,130 --> 02:52:18,090
de HO in Gig Harbor, Washington,
Luke Olsen in the Alexandria,

2870
02:52:18,210 --> 02:52:23,340
Virginia, Cameron Collier and
Justin Texas. James powers in

2871
02:52:23,340 --> 02:52:28,470
Carnegie Oklahoma, split the
mighty and Marietta Georgia

2872
02:52:28,650 --> 02:52:33,360
surgery wing and Roth and Saugus
is a long list Jason Ron and

2873
02:52:33,360 --> 02:52:38,970
ship bottom New Jersey Baron
Allen been in Beaverton Oregon

2874
02:52:38,970 --> 02:52:43,650
and CV Hawk is last on the list
and CV Hawkins in Wellington,

2875
02:52:43,950 --> 02:52:47,190
New Zealand and I that may be
the donation that came through

2876
02:52:47,190 --> 02:52:47,790
stripe

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02:52:48,360 --> 02:52:50,190
Adam Curry: Oh, there it is. It
works.

2878
02:52:52,650 --> 02:52:54,210
John C Dvorak: And as one to
thank all these people for

2879
02:52:54,210 --> 02:52:59,760
making show 1626 1626 The great
reality that it is

2880
02:52:59,790 --> 02:53:02,250
Adam Curry: and thank you to all
the people who What are you

2881
02:53:02,250 --> 02:53:03,570
drinking I'm have

2882
02:53:03,600 --> 02:53:07,620
John C Dvorak: is thirsty. So
today I've got

2883
02:53:09,270 --> 02:53:11,040
Adam Curry: so you can read the
lady walk into the mic

2884
02:53:11,070 --> 02:53:15,570
John C Dvorak: Graham a lavender
and lemon balm, verbal sparkling

2885
02:53:15,570 --> 02:53:16,890
water rather

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02:53:16,890 --> 02:53:17,670
Adam Curry: you're gonna die.

2887
02:53:18,270 --> 02:53:19,230
John C Dvorak: Tastes like poop.

2888
02:53:21,480 --> 02:53:24,150
Adam Curry: Thank you to these
Executive Associate Executive

2889
02:53:24,150 --> 02:53:27,420
producers and the producers up
to $50 We appreciate you so

2890
02:53:27,420 --> 02:53:31,380
much. You are the ones that keep
it going once again and of

2891
02:53:31,380 --> 02:53:34,680
course everyone who came in
under $50 All of that is just as

2892
02:53:34,680 --> 02:53:38,220
appreciated in many ways more
because people aren't sustaining

2893
02:53:38,220 --> 02:53:42,300
donations which often add up to
knighthoods. It's really isn't

2894
02:53:42,300 --> 02:53:45,990
it's not an uncommon occurrence.
Of course under 50 We don't read

2895
02:53:45,990 --> 02:53:49,920
the notes, and I will now
deliver the jobs karma and baby

2896
02:53:49,920 --> 02:53:51,960
making karma as requested jobs,

2897
02:53:52,110 --> 02:53:56,280
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

2898
02:53:58,260 --> 02:54:01,350
Adam Curry: And we add we have
to add a goat for the baby

2899
02:54:01,350 --> 02:54:06,240
making karma that helps. Thank
you all again for producing

2900
02:54:06,240 --> 02:54:12,060
episode 1626 of the best podcast
in the universe. Our formula

2901
02:54:12,060 --> 02:54:15,990
Unknown: is this. We go out we
hit people in the mouth

2902
02:54:35,340 --> 02:54:38,010
Adam Curry: and as an extra
bonus service, we always like to

2903
02:54:38,010 --> 02:54:40,350
congratulate people all you have
to do is go to no agenda

2904
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donations.com That's where you
can support us with your

2905
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treasure and can let us know if
we need to add somebody to the

2906
02:54:46,080 --> 02:54:51,240
birthday list and we say happy
birthday to Matt Elliot that is

2907
02:54:51,270 --> 02:54:58,140
late Lynn arts human resource
turns one yesterday, a GAO Best

2908
02:54:58,140 --> 02:55:01,140
Wishes their third human
resource Lena Happy Birthday

2909
02:55:01,140 --> 02:55:04,500
turned six yesterday. Parker
jolly says Happy Birthday to her

2910
02:55:04,500 --> 02:55:09,480
brother Brian. He celebrates
today. And Dave bazar says Happy

2911
02:55:09,480 --> 02:55:14,010
Birthday to his son Caleb Bazar.
He turns 20 years old tomorrow

2912
02:55:14,010 --> 02:55:16,650
happy birthday from everybody.
Here's the best podcast in the

2913
02:55:16,650 --> 02:55:21,390
universe. And we have one
knighting to deal with, which

2914
02:55:21,420 --> 02:55:24,090
I'm happy to do because I've got
my blade here. Ready? And

2915
02:55:24,090 --> 02:55:27,180
usually Here's mine. The sheets.
Oh, that's the one that that

2916
02:55:27,180 --> 02:55:30,120
Houthi guy has. What's that?
What's that thing called? That

2917
02:55:30,120 --> 02:55:33,570
the one that he has stuck in his
belt? That looks like a looks

2918
02:55:33,570 --> 02:55:38,010
like a cricket bat? Yeah, sharp.
Sharp, very

2919
02:55:38,010 --> 02:55:39,240
John C Dvorak: sharp. Yes. Very
sharp.

2920
02:55:40,320 --> 02:55:43,890
Adam Curry: Sue icon. Come on
up. Brother. You are about to

2921
02:55:43,890 --> 02:55:47,160
become a member of a very
exclusive club. The no agenda

2922
02:55:47,160 --> 02:55:49,410
Knights and Dames with the
roundtable. Thanks for your

2923
02:55:49,410 --> 02:55:52,920
support of the best podcasting
University amount of $1,000 or

2924
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more over here. There you go. I
hereby pronounce the k d as surf

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battle penguin. You had no
special requests. So you get the

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hookers and blow rent boys and
Chardonnay warm beer and cold

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women. Polish potato vodka fish
pie and fellatio harlots and

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held all we got some redheads
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of bourbon sparkling cider and
escorts ginger ale and Jerboas

2931
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breast milk and pablum, or, oh,
yeah, he's already he's already

2932
02:56:21,060 --> 02:56:23,730
munching and slurping on the
mutton and meat. While doing

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that go to no agenda rings.com
That is where you can find all

2934
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the information and nice
pictures of our Signet rings.

2935
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These work well at the meetups.
They're also a great

2936
02:56:32,700 --> 02:56:37,710
conversation piece at a bar, um,
a night. Really? Yes, I'm a

2937
02:56:37,710 --> 02:56:40,200
night. If you hit him in the
mouth, it'll leave a nice

2938
02:56:40,200 --> 02:56:42,870
impression. Or you could just
send them a love letter, seal it

2939
02:56:42,870 --> 02:56:46,590
with your signet ring, we supply
the wax for all your important

2940
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correspondence. And of course,
with that, we do offer a

2941
02:56:50,490 --> 02:56:53,910
certificate of authenticity.
Thank you so much for supporting

2942
02:56:53,910 --> 02:56:57,510
the no agenda show. And a late
Christmas gift switcheroo from

2943
02:56:57,510 --> 02:57:03,060
Brian watt. Who said I'm sending
this donate this donation

2944
02:57:03,060 --> 02:57:05,880
because my dad Brian who hit me
in the mouth years ago has been

2945
02:57:05,880 --> 02:57:11,100
an avid listener of the show
since episode 182. He's a

2946
02:57:11,100 --> 02:57:14,220
douchebag he liked your so so
much as your show so much that

2947
02:57:14,220 --> 02:57:17,490
he went back and listened to all
the prior episodes that he would

2948
02:57:17,490 --> 02:57:20,970
get all the jokes. I would like
to make this donation is

2949
02:57:20,970 --> 02:57:23,700
switcheroo because I cannot bear
the shame of having a douche bag

2950
02:57:23,700 --> 02:57:26,880
father any longer. Please de
doop Shem I will remain a

2951
02:57:26,880 --> 02:57:29,880
douchebag until I can collect
more treasure. Merry Christmas.

2952
02:57:31,890 --> 02:57:33,390
Unknown: Ben de deuced.

2953
02:57:35,160 --> 02:57:39,960
Adam Curry: Part of the joy of
being in no agenda nation Gitmo

2954
02:57:39,960 --> 02:57:44,160
nation is a no agenda meet up
and they take place all over the

2955
02:57:44,160 --> 02:57:47,790
world often one every single day
of the week. You can find them

2956
02:57:47,790 --> 02:57:50,490
at no agenda meetups.com No one

2957
02:57:56,640 --> 02:58:00,660
and to prove that they are like
a party. We have the report from

2958
02:58:00,660 --> 02:58:05,820
the indie meetup this is this is
the I think their first one of

2959
02:58:05,820 --> 02:58:09,270
the new year and Damon had put
together an excellent report for

2960
02:58:09,270 --> 02:58:09,780
us. He says

2961
02:58:09,780 --> 02:58:13,830
Unknown: de Maria and Sir Mark
Happy New Year and they tried we

2962
02:58:13,830 --> 02:58:17,850
are having our first meetup here
in Indy, and it's wonderful life

2963
02:58:17,850 --> 02:58:21,030
on the northern coast of
Indianapolis where it's subzero

2964
02:58:21,030 --> 02:58:24,270
fun in the Morning John Nam this
Bruce Hey,

2965
02:58:24,270 --> 02:58:27,930
this typhoid Emily calling out
to Obama. Can you turn up the

2966
02:58:27,960 --> 02:58:31,620
heat over here? We're seeing
some global warming. Hello Hi,

2967
02:58:31,620 --> 02:58:34,200
this is James Cindy of the
Tito's from Carmel thank you for

2968
02:58:34,200 --> 02:58:35,160
your courage sir

2969
02:58:35,160 --> 02:58:38,130
Craig is the dark moon here
boiler up Hi, it's Tom not from

2970
02:58:38,130 --> 02:58:42,720
Carmel 50 minus because it's
below zero. This is Nia of

2971
02:58:42,720 --> 02:58:47,040
Arcadia water. No agent, mass
number one favorite podcast

2972
02:58:47,550 --> 02:58:50,370
for fishers in the morning.
Madam pa this is sort of over

2973
02:58:50,370 --> 02:58:53,430
the Maipo I really liked the
show. I really like the beat ups

2974
02:58:53,460 --> 02:58:54,660
in the morning tool. Hi,

2975
02:58:54,660 --> 02:58:57,930
this is Gary from Greenwood and
Lloyd awesome isn't dead. He's

2976
02:58:57,930 --> 02:59:00,870
sitting here at the bar having
one of our great craft beers.

2977
02:59:00,930 --> 02:59:01,140
This

2978
02:59:01,140 --> 02:59:03,960
is Shannon for for when visiting
Andy we're reading Blum house in

2979
02:59:03,960 --> 02:59:06,660
the prairie books and having a
reindeer meat sandwich in

2980
02:59:06,660 --> 02:59:10,500
orange. And Adam This is Nick
It's bitterly cold in January

2981
02:59:10,500 --> 02:59:14,610
how Gore tried to warn us Ryan
from Fishers Indiana in the

2982
02:59:14,610 --> 02:59:18,480
morning in the Morning John and
Adam sir PVR street gang live in

2983
02:59:18,480 --> 02:59:22,830
the cold live here in Indiana in
the morning, Dave Kennedy from

2984
02:59:22,830 --> 02:59:26,370
Fort Wayne trying not to freeze.
Thank you for your courage. Hi,

2985
02:59:26,370 --> 02:59:26,550
this

2986
02:59:26,550 --> 02:59:28,980
is Cindy from Grand Junction
Brewing Company. We had no

2987
02:59:28,980 --> 02:59:32,790
agenda in here with us today. We
had a great time at Green Food

2988
02:59:32,820 --> 02:59:35,520
join the community and we were
happy to have him here. Really

2989
02:59:35,520 --> 02:59:37,140
great people. Yeah, thanks for
coming

2990
02:59:37,170 --> 02:59:40,230
to the Boyer family here from
Indianapolis Indiana.

2991
02:59:51,210 --> 02:59:53,670
Adam Curry: Okay, that's a meet
up report right there. What a

2992
02:59:53,670 --> 02:59:57,570
great crowd and they're the most
pretty to all of them just

2993
02:59:57,570 --> 03:00:01,500
beautiful, beautiful group and
And you hear how well it is for

2994
03:00:01,500 --> 03:00:04,800
your establishment? Yeah, Grand
Junction brewing. They got like,

2995
03:00:05,070 --> 03:00:08,850
the whole plug. They're
fantastic. Often the waitstaff

2996
03:00:08,850 --> 03:00:11,340
gets into it. They love being a
part of the no agenda community

2997
03:00:11,340 --> 03:00:14,700
as well. And you can check out
the following meetups. Actually

2998
03:00:14,700 --> 03:00:18,540
one is taking place today at 630
Lincoln's Roadhouse Pearl Street

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03:00:18,810 --> 03:00:22,620
is in Denver, Colorado. The
Charlotte thirsty Third Thursday

3000
03:00:22,620 --> 03:00:26,130
meetup starts tonight at seven
o'clock at Ed's Tavern in

3001
03:00:26,130 --> 03:00:29,190
Charlotte, North Carolina. On
Saturdays in New Hampshire meet

3002
03:00:29,190 --> 03:00:32,730
up 1230 At revolution tap room
and grill Rochester New

3003
03:00:32,730 --> 03:00:36,750
Hampshire. Fort Worth first meet
up of 2020 for one o'clock

3004
03:00:36,840 --> 03:00:41,040
that's in Texas. Flips Patio
Grill Fort Worth. And we have

3005
03:00:41,040 --> 03:00:45,300
the Fort Wayne view scope.
northeast Indiana club 33 meet

3006
03:00:45,300 --> 03:00:48,750
up at the arena Bar and Grill
that'll be Fort Wayne, Indiana,

3007
03:00:48,750 --> 03:00:51,720
the North that's all on
Saturday, North Carolina try had

3008
03:00:51,720 --> 03:00:54,540
no agenda meet up two o'clock at
Little Brothers brewing formerly

3009
03:00:54,540 --> 03:00:57,660
known as Kernersville Brewing
Company in Kernersville, North

3010
03:00:57,660 --> 03:01:02,310
Carolina, North Carolina, the
shrunken amygdala, support group

3011
03:01:02,310 --> 03:01:06,000
two o'clock task group corium
Cincinnati, Ohio the insane

3012
03:01:06,000 --> 03:01:10,530
Diego meet up on Saturday 333 at
roundtable pizza and Rancho

3013
03:01:10,530 --> 03:01:14,940
Bernardo San Diego California,
the tiny and make of Anchorage

3014
03:01:14,970 --> 03:01:18,840
2023 Year in Review. Oh we're
gonna do a rerun review four

3015
03:01:18,840 --> 03:01:22,500
o'clock at Bear Paw Bar and
Grill in Anchorage. I've been

3016
03:01:22,500 --> 03:01:26,850
there. That's the one place I've
been in Anchorage. Bear Paw Bar

3017
03:01:26,850 --> 03:01:29,490
and Grill. Yeah, I was there one
time are we doing in Anchorage?

3018
03:01:29,490 --> 03:01:36,180
I was doing this back in my MTV
days did an appearance. At the I

3019
03:01:36,180 --> 03:01:39,180
think it was at the bear paw bar
and grill or maybe some club

3020
03:01:39,180 --> 03:01:43,980
right next to it. I was there
for 24 hours. It was I have to

3021
03:01:43,980 --> 03:01:47,640
go back. I have to go back to
Anchorage. We want to do early

3022
03:01:47,640 --> 03:01:49,230
John C Dvorak: state I have not
visited

3023
03:01:49,470 --> 03:01:52,440
Adam Curry: it. People are
really cool. That's what I

3024
03:01:52,440 --> 03:01:55,350
remember. Of course I was MTV
guy. So maybe like who are you

3025
03:01:55,350 --> 03:01:55,620
now?

3026
03:01:55,650 --> 03:01:57,270
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
like your hair. Yeah, exactly.

3027
03:01:57,480 --> 03:01:59,580
And okay, does that keep you
warm that here

3028
03:01:59,640 --> 03:02:02,850
Adam Curry: finally the Zen full
kitchen collective and Kilgore

3029
03:02:03,120 --> 03:02:07,860
mid monthly monthly meet up in
Zen Zen kitchen in Kilgore,

3030
03:02:07,860 --> 03:02:11,280
Texas and dirty jersey. Horeb
will be your host there. These

3031
03:02:11,280 --> 03:02:13,920
are just a couple of the no
agenda meetups. We have one

3032
03:02:13,920 --> 03:02:17,370
coming up in February and
Singapore Kilkenny in March.

3033
03:02:17,370 --> 03:02:22,140
That's Ireland. We have many
more in Texas, Canada Navia all

3034
03:02:22,140 --> 03:02:25,890
over the United States and the
world that no agenda meetups, go

3035
03:02:25,890 --> 03:02:29,700
to no agenda meetups.com Find a
place where there's a meetup

3036
03:02:29,700 --> 03:02:33,060
near you if you can't find one
start one yourself. It's easy

3037
03:02:33,060 --> 03:02:37,860
and always guaranteed a party
with

3038
03:02:43,650 --> 03:02:47,820
Unknown: me you want to be

3039
03:02:52,830 --> 03:02:53,370
John C Dvorak: is like

3040
03:02:56,310 --> 03:02:58,740
Adam Curry: we went from
watching Frasier reruns to

3041
03:02:58,740 --> 03:03:02,430
cheers reruns and I realized
that's the cheers theme. I'm

3042
03:03:03,210 --> 03:03:07,050
like, hey man, they know that
they stole our no agenda meetups

3043
03:03:07,050 --> 03:03:13,020
the oh wait a minute. Yeah, joke
although I like our short

3044
03:03:13,020 --> 03:03:15,990
version but so long at the
beginning of cheers back in the

3045
03:03:15,990 --> 03:03:18,810
day they thought that was cool
that the long opening music

3046
03:03:20,730 --> 03:03:23,310
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's great.
Those days are over those

3047
03:03:23,310 --> 03:03:25,980
Adam Curry: days are over those
days. Oh, yeah. What by the way,

3048
03:03:25,980 --> 03:03:26,190
just

3049
03:03:26,190 --> 03:03:28,950
John C Dvorak: a quickie before
we get to the ISOs Yes, I

3050
03:03:28,950 --> 03:03:31,800
watched a horrible Emmys. Oh, I

3051
03:03:31,800 --> 03:03:32,670
Adam Curry: have a clip.

3052
03:03:33,270 --> 03:03:35,460
John C Dvorak: I wrote it up in
the newsletter for people who

3053
03:03:35,460 --> 03:03:38,910
want to kind of get a some type
of twist if you want to hear a

3054
03:03:38,910 --> 03:03:41,910
short clip. I'd love to hear a
short clip. Everybody

3055
03:03:41,910 --> 03:03:46,050
Unknown: having fun at the
chocolate Emmys tonight. Nailed

3056
03:03:46,050 --> 03:03:53,280
it. We are killing it tonight.
Tyler we are killing it tonight.

3057
03:03:53,280 --> 03:03:58,590
You see this is like a man K
dangereux t all rolled into one

3058
03:04:01,110 --> 03:04:04,320
I mean if I was nominated this
year Hale I definitely would

3059
03:04:04,320 --> 03:04:08,550
have won all right. The
chocolate

3060
03:04:08,550 --> 03:04:11,880
John C Dvorak: Emmys. Yeah,
that's pretty close to it.

3061
03:04:12,420 --> 03:04:15,180
Adam Curry: What does he mean by
that chocolate Emmys? Well,

3062
03:04:15,990 --> 03:04:18,270
John C Dvorak: people of color
quote unquote Oh

3063
03:04:18,270 --> 03:04:21,360
Adam Curry: goodness. walked
away with every day people of

3064
03:04:21,360 --> 03:04:22,080
color.

3065
03:04:23,160 --> 03:04:25,740
John C Dvorak: So people of
color it includes Chinese. Yes.

3066
03:04:25,740 --> 03:04:27,060
Well, yeah. He was moist.

3067
03:04:27,090 --> 03:04:29,190
Adam Curry: Moist says when he
hears that he Yeah, I know.

3068
03:04:30,750 --> 03:04:33,330
John C Dvorak: I know. Yeah,
he's right. Yeah, it sounds like

3069
03:04:33,330 --> 03:04:33,960
to me too.

3070
03:04:33,990 --> 03:04:34,890
Adam Curry: I agree. So

3071
03:04:38,070 --> 03:04:41,010
John C Dvorak: Koreans, a lot of
Koreans want me everybody.

3072
03:04:41,610 --> 03:04:41,880
Here's

3073
03:04:43,170 --> 03:04:44,910
Adam Curry: what happened to the
white Christians. I thought they

3074
03:04:44,910 --> 03:04:46,170
were in charge of everything.

3075
03:04:46,770 --> 03:04:49,320
John C Dvorak: Well, they are
and I think they decided to go

3076
03:04:49,320 --> 03:04:54,300
this route. Okay. The best
example of the best, late night

3077
03:04:54,300 --> 03:04:59,130
talk show food first of all they
took they took they had to give

3078
03:04:59,130 --> 03:05:03,240
John Oliver award because he's
got a writing staff of about 50

3079
03:05:03,240 --> 03:05:06,600
people and they all needed
money. So John Oliver got pushed

3080
03:05:06,600 --> 03:05:10,620
into a category called best
variety show.

3081
03:05:10,650 --> 03:05:13,650
Adam Curry: What is the last
variety? Is there singing and

3082
03:05:13,650 --> 03:05:14,820
dancing? That's

3083
03:05:14,820 --> 03:05:17,640
John C Dvorak: No, I mean, yeah,
once the way is a gag dancer

3084
03:05:17,640 --> 03:05:20,700
Come on, but that's ridiculous.
So they gave him an award for

3085
03:05:20,700 --> 03:05:24,630
that. But so they had the best
talk shows they left Gutfeld out

3086
03:05:24,630 --> 03:05:28,260
of this, of course now and they
had have, they had Kimmel, they

3087
03:05:28,260 --> 03:05:33,810
had a late night with Stephen
Colbert, and they had Jimmy

3088
03:05:33,810 --> 03:05:40,500
Fallon and then they had Noah on
the Comedy Central show. That

3089
03:05:40,500 --> 03:05:43,770
show is over as canceled and has
been cancelled is over. He's not

3090
03:05:43,770 --> 03:05:45,960
even work as far as I know. It
is not even there anymore. But

3091
03:05:45,960 --> 03:05:46,560
chocolate

3092
03:05:46,590 --> 03:05:49,830
Adam Curry: so he gets an award.
Exactly.

3093
03:05:50,820 --> 03:05:52,590
John C Dvorak: And the staffs
and the the other guys are

3094
03:05:52,710 --> 03:05:55,950
putting you know, they're a
bunch of liberals and you're

3095
03:05:55,950 --> 03:06:00,390
politely clapping you know,
they've got bands and stabs they

3096
03:06:00,390 --> 03:06:04,140
got a lot of people to feed and
they're politely all it's great

3097
03:06:04,140 --> 03:06:07,740
that no one and it's funny to
watch.

3098
03:06:09,510 --> 03:06:12,060
Adam Curry: Oh, man, oh, man.
Oh, man, but it

3099
03:06:12,060 --> 03:06:13,770
John C Dvorak: was I don't know
what the ratings were but it was

3100
03:06:13,770 --> 03:06:17,190
against Monday Night Football. I
mean, the chocolates get

3101
03:06:17,190 --> 03:06:20,160
Adam Curry: all the awards and
we get Trump. I mean, this is

3102
03:06:20,160 --> 03:06:20,820
not fair.

3103
03:06:22,380 --> 03:06:24,750
John C Dvorak: There you have
it. There you have it. No

3104
03:06:24,750 --> 03:06:26,490
chocolates, chocolates,

3105
03:06:26,550 --> 03:06:30,900
Adam Curry: chocolate. The
chocolate Emmys degrading. Why

3106
03:06:30,900 --> 03:06:35,850
do I say that man? Anyway,
whatever. I only have one eye so

3107
03:06:35,880 --> 03:06:38,730
you want to hear mine? Yeah,
sure. It's a doozy though. Be

3108
03:06:38,730 --> 03:06:41,640
careful. Yours may not stack up
to it. Here we go.

3109
03:06:41,730 --> 03:06:45,450
Unknown: Ah, wow. Wow,

3110
03:06:45,480 --> 03:06:48,450
Adam Curry: that's a good it's a
good it's not just wow, it's Ah,

3111
03:06:48,480 --> 03:06:51,450
Unknown: wow. Wow. But

3112
03:06:51,450 --> 03:06:53,820
John C Dvorak: I like it. I've
always liked to wireless I

3113
03:06:53,850 --> 03:06:57,600
usually contribute to wireless.
Well, let's go with so I got

3114
03:06:57,600 --> 03:07:00,120
three. Start with lies.

3115
03:07:00,420 --> 03:07:04,290
Adam Curry: I don't want to hear
any more of these lies. That's

3116
03:07:04,290 --> 03:07:06,720
the that's from the archive.
That's the classic. It's a

3117
03:07:06,720 --> 03:07:08,010
classic classic. Yeah,

3118
03:07:08,100 --> 03:07:13,170
John C Dvorak: I got a mega
mega. Yeah, okay. Okay, well,

3119
03:07:13,170 --> 03:07:17,460
Mega Man again. And then the
last one is podcast structure.

3120
03:07:17,700 --> 03:07:20,520
Unknown: This podcast has no
structure.

3121
03:07:22,080 --> 03:07:26,700
Adam Curry: I think we have a
winner. There you go. In a

3122
03:07:26,700 --> 03:07:30,060
nutshell. Ladies and gentlemen,
we have an end of show. So now

3123
03:07:30,060 --> 03:07:37,860
it's time for Google JC Penney
to read a note here which we got

3124
03:07:37,860 --> 03:07:45,840
from Wait, where's where it was?
It was from one of our

3125
03:07:45,840 --> 03:07:49,290
producers. When did I erase
that? What did I do with that?

3126
03:07:49,710 --> 03:07:57,900
He said oh goodness. But I I
have a note that I wanted to

3127
03:07:57,900 --> 03:08:01,620
read but now I can't find it. So
I'll look for it. Okay, what's

3128
03:08:01,620 --> 03:08:02,640
your good news for today?

3129
03:08:02,670 --> 03:08:03,600
Unknown: Okay, today's

3130
03:08:03,600 --> 03:08:07,440
John C Dvorak: good news comes
from Iowa. Iowa and it snowed in

3131
03:08:07,440 --> 03:08:11,550
in Iowa and is doctors going
around saving the day with his

3132
03:08:11,760 --> 03:08:15,720
one of those four wheelers those
little bicycle thing he said

3133
03:08:15,720 --> 03:08:16,320
four weeks

3134
03:08:16,320 --> 03:08:19,650
Adam Curry: ago, but it was like
Doc Holloway on a four wheeler

3135
03:08:19,650 --> 03:08:24,120
is that everything he could to
make sure last week's winter

3136
03:08:24,120 --> 03:08:26,550
storm couldn't stop him from
delivering a baby.

3137
03:08:26,580 --> 03:08:30,150
Unknown: Yeah, he took this ATV
to Shenandoah Medical Center to

3138
03:08:30,150 --> 03:08:33,600
help baby Berkeley gardener come
into the world. Okay, TV news,

3139
03:08:33,600 --> 03:08:36,060
watch him and Sean McCann and
caught up with mom, dad and

3140
03:08:36,060 --> 03:08:38,760
doctor about that snowy
situation last

3141
03:08:38,760 --> 03:08:43,800
Friday in Shenandoah, Iowa. Time
must have felt frozen, as

3142
03:08:43,800 --> 03:08:47,040
subzero temps kept people
indoors. The gardeners were on

3143
03:08:47,040 --> 03:08:50,670
their way to the hospital mom
crystal gardener was due and Dr.

3144
03:08:50,670 --> 03:08:53,940
Chase brown knew his four
wheeler was the only way he

3145
03:08:53,940 --> 03:08:57,390
could make it there. He cleared
snowdrifts by hitting them at 20

3146
03:08:57,390 --> 03:08:59,970
miles per hour, snow and
everywhere I went flying in all

3147
03:08:59,970 --> 03:09:03,390
directions but just keep going
through to the next one. And it

3148
03:09:03,390 --> 03:09:06,900
wasn't just Dr. Brown. The whole
medical team braved the snow and

3149
03:09:06,900 --> 03:09:09,510
cold to make sure this baby
would be delivered.

3150
03:09:09,540 --> 03:09:12,630
We knew he was gonna get there.
They all would get there for it.

3151
03:09:12,660 --> 03:09:13,830
The garters were blessed with

3152
03:09:13,830 --> 03:09:17,310
a baby girl named Berkeley at
Tuesday's checkup. Brown says

3153
03:09:17,310 --> 03:09:18,570
she's healthy as can be.

3154
03:09:18,600 --> 03:09:22,110
She's a very good baby. We
couldn't have asked for more

3155
03:09:22,110 --> 03:09:23,610
perfection so

3156
03:09:23,760 --> 03:09:25,560
her siblings can't put her down.

3157
03:09:25,590 --> 03:09:28,530
Does Leah share at all that she
doesn't share much and tries

3158
03:09:28,530 --> 03:09:28,770
not?

3159
03:09:29,910 --> 03:09:32,610
Despite Berkeley being born in a
winter storm, she

3160
03:09:32,610 --> 03:09:34,920
doesn't like to be out of her
blanket out of her swaddle

3161
03:09:34,920 --> 03:09:36,810
nothing. And she hates the cold
for

3162
03:09:36,810 --> 03:09:39,900
Brown. There was never a
question he'd make it. In fact,

3163
03:09:39,900 --> 03:09:43,320
he's gone to three deliveries
now by four wheeler again, no

3164
03:09:43,320 --> 03:09:46,320
matter what's coming, for there
to take care of people. And

3165
03:09:46,320 --> 03:09:49,980
while time might move slowly in
this small town, there's no snow

3166
03:09:49,980 --> 03:09:53,730
day for a baby ready to meet the
world. This is a dream come true

3167
03:09:53,730 --> 03:09:57,060
for me to be here in a small
town and provide the care we can

3168
03:09:57,600 --> 03:10:01,320
in experiences like this is just
how I imagine that'd be a doctor

3169
03:10:01,320 --> 03:10:06,150
one day Sean McKinnon, K TV
NEWSWATCH SEVEN. Ah,

3170
03:10:06,180 --> 03:10:09,090
John C Dvorak: wow. No doctors
like that. Except a little small

3171
03:10:09,090 --> 03:10:11,220
towns around here is

3172
03:10:11,220 --> 03:10:14,550
Adam Curry: beautiful. It was so
nice. I feel good. I found the

3173
03:10:14,550 --> 03:10:20,010
note. SOC, sent a note through
fountain to podcasting 2.0 Good

3174
03:10:20,010 --> 03:10:22,830
news. This is going to be a
nightmare when they needed

3175
03:10:22,830 --> 03:10:26,310
another show day off three hours
of good news segments is going

3176
03:10:26,310 --> 03:10:31,560
to need a disclaimer for the
side effects. You nailed it,

3177
03:10:31,560 --> 03:10:33,300
brother. You nailed it. Yeah,

3178
03:10:33,300 --> 03:10:34,170
John C Dvorak: we're gonna
cumulate

3179
03:10:35,820 --> 03:10:42,390
Unknown: JC had the vibes for
you and me and we all feel

3180
03:10:42,390 --> 03:10:45,570
better. Now he's done his bit,
to the back

3181
03:10:45,600 --> 03:10:49,500
Adam Curry: to reality. That's
turning to shit. Good news,

3182
03:10:49,500 --> 03:10:52,590
everybody. We end every show
with some good news. So you can

3183
03:10:52,590 --> 03:10:56,190
feel good going into the next
few days without us. But of

3184
03:10:56,190 --> 03:10:59,970
course, we'll be back on Sunday
to deconstruct all of the

3185
03:10:59,970 --> 03:11:04,950
world's events for you. Maybe by
then we will have a new Lloyd

3186
03:11:04,950 --> 03:11:08,790
Austin. You never know. You
never know you never know.

3187
03:11:09,930 --> 03:11:13,440
queued up for you. Some end of
show mixes. Thank you. Steph

3188
03:11:13,440 --> 03:11:17,580
Jacobson. Proud Professor Jay
Jones. Producer X. I want to

3189
03:11:17,580 --> 03:11:21,810
thank the Jones brothers Neil
and Steve and Marty bent for

3190
03:11:22,260 --> 03:11:25,950
some of those clips from the
douchebags of Davos. Lots of

3191
03:11:25,950 --> 03:11:28,830
people help with their time,
talent and treasure. Why don't

3192
03:11:28,830 --> 03:11:33,570
you do the same? No agenda
donations.com. And if you're

3193
03:11:33,570 --> 03:11:38,250
gonna stick around for the next
show live on the stream or in

3194
03:11:38,250 --> 03:11:42,120
your modern podcast that grumpy
old Ben's up next on the stream

3195
03:11:42,750 --> 03:11:45,570
coming to you from the heart of
the Texas Hill Country here and

3196
03:11:45,570 --> 03:11:49,500
FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody I am

3197
03:11:49,740 --> 03:11:52,200
John C Dvorak: Adam curry came
from Northern Silicon Valley.

3198
03:11:52,200 --> 03:11:53,520
I'm John C. Dvorak.

3199
03:11:53,550 --> 03:11:57,480
Adam Curry: We return on Sunday.
More deconstruction, more news,

3200
03:11:57,480 --> 03:12:00,690
more info, more clips, more
boots on the ground insight,

3201
03:12:00,780 --> 03:12:06,510
knowledge. And of course the
humor. The comedic stylings,

3202
03:12:06,870 --> 03:12:11,160
remember us, Dvorak that org
slash na no agenda donations.com

3203
03:12:11,310 --> 03:12:15,390
until Sunday, adios mofos a hui
Hui and such

3204
03:12:15,390 --> 03:12:22,200
Unknown: speaking scenes two
days it is Doug's what's not to

3205
03:12:22,200 --> 03:12:29,040
be thrilled about it down happy
with the diet. good about what

3206
03:12:29,040 --> 03:12:29,670
you're feeding.

3207
03:12:30,990 --> 03:12:34,800
Now of course you really want to
make the advertiser feel happy

3208
03:12:39,420 --> 03:12:45,960
if you ended up having to share
your dog's food Sunday's I speak

3209
03:12:45,960 --> 03:12:48,960
from experience I mean not from
the mini Apocalypse experience

3210
03:12:49,350 --> 03:12:50,970
but also from getting down on
the ground that

3211
03:12:53,970 --> 03:12:56,460
was a little bad assets right

3212
03:12:58,560 --> 03:13:02,250
on camera have no

3213
03:13:12,450 --> 03:13:17,010
breaks my heart breaks my heart
goes value for value people

3214
03:13:17,010 --> 03:13:24,990
stop right away Stop it is a
Moses will be the Pro.

3215
03:13:26,640 --> 03:13:31,230
Israel a pariah stays with
occupation and apartheid. When

3216
03:13:31,230 --> 03:13:35,550
xenophobia, ruthlessness and
intimidation, Israel is losing

3217
03:13:36,060 --> 03:13:39,270
on the grounds and in the courts
of public opinion building

3218
03:13:39,270 --> 03:13:42,090
an empire based on fears and
intimidation,

3219
03:13:42,180 --> 03:13:45,750
desperate acts of aggression to
propose the wider conflict,

3220
03:13:45,990 --> 03:13:46,770
charismatic,

3221
03:13:46,860 --> 03:13:49,980
vicious immigrants for the
destruction of the country,

3222
03:13:50,220 --> 03:13:55,110
with Lebanon with Iran with
anybody to draw in the US of

3223
03:13:55,110 --> 03:14:00,690
build the butcher. BUTCHER Biden
is reporting for Tuesday. What's

3224
03:14:00,690 --> 03:14:04,830
your approach, genocide by his
side extinguishes life the

3225
03:14:04,830 --> 03:14:08,310
continuation of Israeli
terrorists the son of a butcher,

3226
03:14:08,340 --> 03:14:12,660
a ruthless fighter. So take
notes butcher fighting, it's

3227
03:14:12,660 --> 03:14:13,980
frankly deplorable and

3228
03:14:13,980 --> 03:14:15,030
wholly depressing.

3229
03:14:16,380 --> 03:14:19,890
Just keep our constants out of
your mouth.

3230
03:14:20,310 --> 03:14:23,910
It's important to remember who
this man is. He's a xenophobic

3231
03:14:23,910 --> 03:14:26,400
killer who has aligned himself
with fellow scared

3232
03:14:26,400 --> 03:14:29,970
bigots. For Joe Biden is
reporting he

3233
03:14:29,970 --> 03:14:33,990
is not a good man betrays a no
this man is evil and never tried

3234
03:14:33,990 --> 03:14:36,240
to tell us otherwise is a noses

3235
03:14:37,950 --> 03:14:41,490
genocide that Germany with your
words and deeds supporting

3236
03:14:41,490 --> 03:14:45,030
Israel, the people of Europe
stand with Palestine and with

3237
03:14:45,030 --> 03:14:50,310
South Africa. Christian Lord
guide my hand. It's important to

3238
03:14:50,310 --> 03:14:54,780
remember who this man is for Joe
Biden is reporting for duty.

3239
03:14:54,780 --> 03:14:57,330
He's a xenophobic killer who has
aligned himself with

3240
03:14:57,330 --> 03:14:59,520
fellow scared and bigots. Israel

3241
03:14:59,520 --> 03:15:02,790
is loose Then, on the grounds
and in the court of public

3242
03:15:02,820 --> 03:15:06,660
opinion, the people of North
Stand with Palestine and with

3243
03:15:06,660 --> 03:15:07,410
South Africa.

3244
03:15:08,849 --> 03:15:15,449
What is best in my mind? For
Russia enemies, see them driven

3245
03:15:15,449 --> 03:15:17,879
before you hear the lamentation
of the women

3246
03:15:19,980 --> 03:15:26,310
John C Dvorak: lamentation,
Lamentation Lamentation

3247
03:15:30,690 --> 03:15:37,020
Lamentation, lamentation,
lamentation

3248
03:15:45,690 --> 03:15:52,590
is where you just lament your
euros woes you know the worst

3249
03:15:52,590 --> 03:15:58,380
moaning and groaning, moaning
and groaning and moaning and

3250
03:15:58,380 --> 03:16:08,940
groaning, groaning lamentation,
Lamentation Lamentation

3251
03:16:13,350 --> 03:16:21,990
Clementine lamentation
limitation is good

3252
03:16:31,980 --> 03:16:35,850
Unknown: MoPhO boruch.org/in a

3253
03:16:36,960 --> 03:16:39,240
podcast has no structure