1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,630
John C Dvorak: like I haven't
done enough work, Adam curry,

2
00:00:03,780 --> 00:00:07,470
Adam Curry: Jhansi Dvorak and
December 31 2023. This is your

3
00:00:07,470 --> 00:00:11,550
award winning accumulation media
assets and nation episode 1641.

4
00:00:11,550 --> 00:00:11,970
This

5
00:00:12,060 --> 00:00:13,350
Unknown: is no agenda,

6
00:00:14,250 --> 00:00:17,460
Adam Curry: running through the
tape and broadcasting live from

7
00:00:17,460 --> 00:00:20,010
the heart of the Texas hill
country here in favor. Reason

8
00:00:20,010 --> 00:00:23,280
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry

9
00:00:23,310 --> 00:00:25,260
John C Dvorak: in from other
Silicon Valley where they're all

10
00:00:25,260 --> 00:00:29,400
saying Denmark had a queen.
Well, yeah, she had been

11
00:00:29,430 --> 00:00:33,990
dedicated. I'm Jhansi to kill.

12
00:00:35,580 --> 00:00:37,620
Adam Curry: You should have gone
with the Masked Singer opening.

13
00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,900
I mean that that was better.

14
00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,810
John C Dvorak: You know, the
Queen of Denmark. abdicate cated

15
00:00:45,870 --> 00:00:46,170
Who does

16
00:00:46,170 --> 00:00:49,620
Adam Curry: she abdicate to?
Does she have a young wing? So

17
00:00:49,620 --> 00:00:52,680
we're gonna have a king? Yeah, I
didn't know this. How old is

18
00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,360
she? 82

19
00:00:55,980 --> 00:00:59,760
John C Dvorak: Wow. She's a bad
back and she says you get on her

20
00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,360
nerves.

21
00:01:03,390 --> 00:01:07,020
Adam Curry: As she must love her
so her son unlike Elizabeth who

22
00:01:07,050 --> 00:01:09,420
hated her son so much he hung on
there.

23
00:01:09,930 --> 00:01:15,810
John C Dvorak: Forever. She's
like I'm not gonna dammit. Well,

24
00:01:15,810 --> 00:01:19,830
Adam Curry: here we are. John
live. The end of 2023 running

25
00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:23,280
through the tape to 2024 not
looking back. Only looking

26
00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,280
John C Dvorak: forward. Yeah,
take a quick glance in the chat

27
00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,270
room. Do a count. Oh, okay. Let
me see. Do an early count. catch

28
00:01:30,270 --> 00:01:33,270
him off guard. Oh, okay. Well,
hold on a second. Oops.

29
00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:36,510
Unknown: No joke out.

30
00:01:41,010 --> 00:01:42,180
Adam Curry: 1521

31
00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:51,570
John C Dvorak: for Sunday, yeah,
it's down 1000 Well, I told you

32
00:01:51,570 --> 00:01:55,110
this is why nobody works on
these days. Except does you

33
00:01:55,110 --> 00:01:56,850
Adam Curry: should have started
with a case it should have

34
00:01:56,850 --> 00:01:58,740
started with the massing or
opening I'm telling you

35
00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,740
John C Dvorak: I have done it
twice. Yes.

36
00:02:01,950 --> 00:02:05,670
Adam Curry: A couple of Dutch
isms for everybody. So tonight

37
00:02:06,270 --> 00:02:10,020
we will be eating Alibaba we
haven't talked about the only

38
00:02:10,020 --> 00:02:11,190
bullet in a long time. No

39
00:02:11,189 --> 00:02:12,959
John C Dvorak: but did you get
to bring Dutch in I got a

40
00:02:12,959 --> 00:02:15,299
classic coming up. Yes,

41
00:02:15,420 --> 00:02:18,390
Adam Curry: yes. I have a couple
other Dutch isms? Totally bola

42
00:02:18,420 --> 00:02:23,280
look it up it's oil balls. Yes,
well balls. The Dutch are eating

43
00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,930
oil balls and I realized that
they have very different ways of

44
00:02:27,930 --> 00:02:32,610
saying Happy New Year. Oh the
ducks just learned this now. No,

45
00:02:32,610 --> 00:02:37,230
I just never thought to write it
down 15 of these and I forgot to

46
00:02:37,230 --> 00:02:40,890
write here it is. But it's a
yard obviously. Everyone says

47
00:02:40,890 --> 00:02:45,090
that part of the yard whistling
which means happy year change.

48
00:02:46,260 --> 00:02:53,160
Which is kind of weird. And the
other one is Zala out end which

49
00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,410
means lovely ending have a
lovely ending that was thought

50
00:02:58,410 --> 00:02:59,550
of that happy ending but

51
00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:02,190
John C Dvorak: I had one other
lovely ending it sounds like

52
00:03:02,190 --> 00:03:05,940
something a mafia guy was said
to someone. Have a lovely

53
00:03:05,940 --> 00:03:06,420
ending.

54
00:03:08,490 --> 00:03:11,040
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what
they do. That's what they do in

55
00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:11,490
Holland.

56
00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,160
John C Dvorak: Well to celebrate
the end of the year since

57
00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,360
nobody's listening anyway,

58
00:03:15,390 --> 00:03:18,150
Adam Curry: I brought new clips
you just went to the archive you

59
00:03:18,150 --> 00:03:19,620
must got new

60
00:03:19,620 --> 00:03:21,450
John C Dvorak: clips. You got a
couple I got to I finally

61
00:03:21,450 --> 00:03:23,820
brought the Al Gore one in but I
want to do a couple of these

62
00:03:23,820 --> 00:03:27,540
classics. Because I have some
classic for New Years and this

63
00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:31,470
is the one I'll play this is the
classic Dutch New Year videos.

64
00:03:32,700 --> 00:03:35,070
Adam Curry: Classic Dutch New
Year videos okay

65
00:03:41,370 --> 00:03:44,520
Unknown: yes, you did indeed
just witness a man fire rocket

66
00:03:44,670 --> 00:03:47,820
from his ass cheeks. Are you
right? This might seem a little

67
00:03:47,820 --> 00:03:53,370
crazy. Or even borderline
insane. But to the Dutch it's

68
00:03:53,370 --> 00:04:00,150
just another New Year's in the
Netherlands 364 days of the year

69
00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:04,380
is quite peaceful. Normally, the
closest the average duchy gets

70
00:04:04,380 --> 00:04:10,800
to war or loss or law on the
31st of December this all

71
00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,130
changes their most beloved New
Year's tradition is making their

72
00:04:14,130 --> 00:04:17,250
safe little country feel like a
horse

73
00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,540
Adam Curry: see me the gears. I
forgot about the guy with the

74
00:04:42,570 --> 00:04:43,980
bottle rocket from his but

75
00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,580
John C Dvorak: yes, it's
classic. Yeah. No agenda

76
00:04:47,580 --> 00:04:49,800
classic, classic video.

77
00:04:50,190 --> 00:04:53,190
Adam Curry: Yeah, the Dutch go
crazy with their fireworks and

78
00:04:53,490 --> 00:04:56,910
it really starts two weeks ahead
of time. There was a report I

79
00:04:57,690 --> 00:05:01,920
forget what station it was and
They had a reporter in Amsterdam

80
00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,110
for some reason it was
completely unrelated thing was

81
00:05:04,110 --> 00:05:07,170
even an Israel report but the
reporter was a British reporter

82
00:05:07,170 --> 00:05:11,760
in Amsterdam about Israel. And
it sounds like she was in Israel

83
00:05:12,090 --> 00:05:14,910
with bombs going off because
that's just what it's like in

84
00:05:14,910 --> 00:05:19,170
Holland for full two weeks
before and after the New Year's

85
00:05:19,170 --> 00:05:23,940
and I have to say that Texas is
a bit like that and our dog for

86
00:05:23,940 --> 00:05:27,570
as big a mouth as she has man.
She does not like fireworks.

87
00:05:28,830 --> 00:05:31,320
John C Dvorak: I'd say 90% of
dogs don't like fireworks.

88
00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:34,920
Adam Curry: I mean, she will not
go outside with me to pee. Like,

89
00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,020
nope, nope, no, I'll just
crossed my legs. There's

90
00:05:37,020 --> 00:05:40,590
fireworks going off now. For the
for the past week. They've been

91
00:05:40,590 --> 00:05:45,000
going at least some douchebag at
1130 at night or something. Hey,

92
00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,990
look at this. I mean, yeah, we
have a lot of fireworks stands

93
00:05:48,990 --> 00:05:54,270
all like 290, which is the road,
our main drag here. I mean,

94
00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:57,900
there must be 50 of them from
Austin between Austin in here.

95
00:05:58,770 --> 00:06:01,650
And, you know, they open on
certain times a year and they're

96
00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,940
big containers, just out there
in the fields. And people love

97
00:06:05,940 --> 00:06:10,350
to get their blow up stuff. So
to speak. They love it. They

98
00:06:10,350 --> 00:06:14,370
love blowing stuff up here in
Texas. But the dogs now this dog

99
00:06:14,370 --> 00:06:17,820
is not having it. So that should
be fun tonight,

100
00:06:18,510 --> 00:06:22,920
John C Dvorak: though. Yeah.
Well, there's a Mimi has.

101
00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,310
There's some drug that you can
legally give these

102
00:06:26,310 --> 00:06:29,700
Adam Curry: dogs. Yes, it's
called Benadryl. Well,

103
00:06:29,700 --> 00:06:31,770
John C Dvorak: besides me
something besides Well, Benadryl

104
00:06:31,770 --> 00:06:33,900
does work. It works great, great

105
00:06:33,930 --> 00:06:40,230
Adam Curry: dogs like hey, man,
happy ever a lovely ending? She

106
00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:45,600
loves it, man. It's all good.
So, okay, so you'll intersperse

107
00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,640
some of these classics
throughout. I

108
00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,790
John C Dvorak: have classics a
show. Yeah. Same way that that

109
00:06:50,790 --> 00:06:53,160
Dutch guy has the fireworks and

110
00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,950
Adam Curry: yes interspersed
throughout throughout the show.

111
00:06:55,950 --> 00:07:01,170
Well, let me start us off then.
With something that of course

112
00:07:01,170 --> 00:07:05,460
happened on a show day, which
was on Thursday. They waited

113
00:07:05,460 --> 00:07:06,600
until we were done. You

114
00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,640
Unknown: said last night that
you're you're not convinced.

115
00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,000
Sorry.

116
00:07:09,030 --> 00:07:11,580
Adam Curry: Not that one. That
was good. Good, good leading

117
00:07:11,580 --> 00:07:12,390
curry. We'll try it

118
00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:14,640
John C Dvorak: again. Started
off with a bang.

119
00:07:16,290 --> 00:07:19,710
Unknown: There it is. Just one
week shy of the three year mark

120
00:07:19,710 --> 00:07:24,180
of the January 6, Capitol siege,
Maine's democratic Secretary of

121
00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:28,050
State banned Donald Trump from
the state's primary ballot and

122
00:07:28,050 --> 00:07:31,860
blistered Trump for his actions
before and during the deadly

123
00:07:31,860 --> 00:07:33,600
riot. In

124
00:07:34,020 --> 00:07:38,010
evaluating the weight of
evidence, it made clear that Mr.

125
00:07:38,010 --> 00:07:43,140
Trump was aware of the tinder
that was laid in a multi month

126
00:07:43,170 --> 00:07:48,960
effort to delegitimize the 2020
election, and Tinder then chose

127
00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,100
to light a match.

128
00:07:50,310 --> 00:07:54,210
In her 34 Page decision. Sheena
bellows wrote, I am mindful that

129
00:07:54,210 --> 00:07:56,820
no Secretary of State has ever
deprived a presidential

130
00:07:56,820 --> 00:08:00,750
candidate of ballot access based
on section three of the 14th

131
00:08:00,750 --> 00:08:03,930
amendment. I'm also mindful,
however, that no presidential

132
00:08:03,930 --> 00:08:06,990
candidate has ever before
engaged in insurrection,

133
00:08:07,230 --> 00:08:11,340
I was in no way influenced by my
political affiliation or

134
00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:14,580
personal beliefs. About January
6 2021.

135
00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,750
Trump's campaign slammed the
order his spokesman Paul bellows

136
00:08:18,750 --> 00:08:23,070
a leftist and a hyper partisan
Biden's supporting Democrat.

137
00:08:23,310 --> 00:08:26,970
Last week Colorado Supreme Court
ruled Trump's name could not

138
00:08:26,970 --> 00:08:30,270
appear on that state's ballot
because the US Constitution

139
00:08:30,270 --> 00:08:34,260
prevents insurrectionists from
holding office, while late last

140
00:08:34,260 --> 00:08:37,890
night California joined Michigan
and Minnesota declining to

141
00:08:37,890 --> 00:08:40,950
remove Trump's name. And there
are challenges filed in more

142
00:08:40,950 --> 00:08:43,380
than a dozen states nationwide.
We really

143
00:08:43,380 --> 00:08:46,200
need a decision from the United
States Supreme Court the

144
00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,010
ultimate authority to interpret
what the 14th Amendment to the

145
00:08:50,010 --> 00:08:53,220
United States Constitution says
to determine whether or not

146
00:08:53,220 --> 00:08:57,600
Donald Trump is qualified to run
for and hold the presidency.

147
00:08:58,620 --> 00:09:01,260
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think that's
really what this is about. We

148
00:09:01,260 --> 00:09:04,740
just did just want to add one
extra little oomph to

149
00:09:04,740 --> 00:09:08,460
everything. Look at the Supreme
Court. They're no good to know

150
00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:13,050
good to insurrections
themselves. I can't imagine any

151
00:09:13,050 --> 00:09:16,830
other reason for this nonsense,
other than we want Trump to win

152
00:09:16,830 --> 00:09:18,360
because so he can take all the
crap.

153
00:09:19,380 --> 00:09:22,380
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm
beginning to think in that in

154
00:09:22,380 --> 00:09:25,410
those terms more than anything,
which is that we're handing

155
00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,510
trump the victory in any way
they

156
00:09:27,510 --> 00:09:30,150
Adam Curry: can. What you do,
it's what you do. And when these

157
00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:30,480
guys

158
00:09:30,930 --> 00:09:34,710
John C Dvorak: like a dubious
and even, Newsom who started I

159
00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:37,950
mentioned the newsletter
discussed this. And Newsom

160
00:09:37,950 --> 00:09:41,130
started off I remember clearly
and I think we've even had a

161
00:09:41,130 --> 00:09:44,820
clip that he wanted to do this
on our ballot here, but then he

162
00:09:44,850 --> 00:09:48,450
pushed back on the guys who did
want it and figure out what's

163
00:09:48,450 --> 00:09:51,600
the point? You're not gonna look
good for him because he's still

164
00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,320
trying to get nose out Biden and
he can't look like some sort of,

165
00:09:55,860 --> 00:10:00,000
you know, you can't call Trump a
against democracy when you're

166
00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,950
He's pulling these stones. Well,

167
00:10:02,010 --> 00:10:03,720
Adam Curry: he's not against
democracy. He's an

168
00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,690
insurrectionists. That's the
question CNN is asking.

169
00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,880
Unknown: You said last night
that you're you're not convinced

170
00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,820
Supreme Court would actually
take up the question of whether

171
00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:13,980
or not Trump engaged in an
insurrection. That's one of the

172
00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:18,600
big questions. Right is why do
we quantify this under section

173
00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,030
three of the 14th? Amendment? If
he hasn't been charged?

174
00:10:21,030 --> 00:10:24,240
criminally, criminally or
convicted? Yeah. Can they really

175
00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,540
not take up that part of it?
Because that to me, suicide, so

176
00:10:27,540 --> 00:10:28,470
is even further chaos.

177
00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:29,910
They see this. Hold

178
00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:32,700
John C Dvorak: on a second. Does
that woman even understand how

179
00:10:32,700 --> 00:10:34,170
the Supreme Court works?

180
00:10:34,710 --> 00:10:35,910
Adam Curry: It's Erica Hill.

181
00:10:37,140 --> 00:10:39,120
John C Dvorak: Oh, my God, poor
Ericone.

182
00:10:40,590 --> 00:10:43,440
Adam Curry: No, I don't think
she does to me, she thinks is

183
00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,460
just, you know, like People's
Court. Judge Wapner presiding

184
00:10:47,490 --> 00:10:47,730
part

185
00:10:47,730 --> 00:10:50,400
Unknown: of it. Because that to
me, too, is so is even further

186
00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:50,730
chaos.

187
00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,880
They can not take up the
question of whether he engaged

188
00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,220
in insurrection. And I think
they will not take up the

189
00:10:56,220 --> 00:10:58,710
question of whether he engaged
in insurrection if and when the

190
00:10:58,710 --> 00:11:00,390
Supreme Court takes this, it
will be

191
00:11:01,110 --> 00:11:07,140
John C Dvorak: they will not.
They can, which is what he says

192
00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:10,080
at first. And he says they will
not Well, yeah, they can not

193
00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,580
they will not Hello,

194
00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,650
Adam Curry: you want to
elaborate? I'm sorry. I have

195
00:11:13,650 --> 00:11:16,320
seen her fever. You wanna you
want to elaborate? The

196
00:11:16,350 --> 00:11:19,620
John C Dvorak: Supreme Court can
only decide on what's before

197
00:11:19,620 --> 00:11:23,970
them. It's not their job to do
anything beyond that. So they

198
00:11:23,970 --> 00:11:26,760
have to decide whether it's
legal or not for these these

199
00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,720
ballots to be changed like this,
based on the assumption of those

200
00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,830
other courts that can't start
digging into Trump's background

201
00:11:34,830 --> 00:11:38,670
and deciding is an insurrection
is to it got a couple of parking

202
00:11:38,670 --> 00:11:41,220
tickets, and they can't figure
out how come he didn't pay

203
00:11:41,220 --> 00:11:43,950
those. I mean, they don't do
that. It's not how it works.

204
00:11:43,980 --> 00:11:46,260
Unknown: question of whether he
engaged in insurrection if and

205
00:11:46,260 --> 00:11:49,470
when the Supreme Court takes
this, it will be about procedure

206
00:11:49,590 --> 00:11:53,040
and due process. Was he given
fair procedures under the state

207
00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,070
law? Is it even up to the states
and secretaries of state to

208
00:11:56,070 --> 00:11:58,110
decide this in the first place?
Or does it have to come from

209
00:11:58,110 --> 00:12:01,290
Congress? I don't think any way
the Supreme Court touches the

210
00:12:01,290 --> 00:12:04,020
insurrectionist question. It
will be based on due process.

211
00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:08,100
Adam Curry: I kind of love that
Zoom call that got out. And how

212
00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:12,270
does this even happen? Oh,
everyone's zoom call is always

213
00:12:12,270 --> 00:12:17,760
online. Get a clue. People can
use Jitsi or something. Can a

214
00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,940
clue everyone's are logging in
and recording your calls and

215
00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:23,580
putting them online. They'll
have the same hairdo. They all

216
00:12:23,580 --> 00:12:27,510
have the same vapid look.
They're all roughly the same age

217
00:12:27,510 --> 00:12:30,630
all the Secretaries of State.
It's like is that are they the

218
00:12:30,690 --> 00:12:35,190
sorrows sisters as well? It's
really I think so. Yeah. So of

219
00:12:35,190 --> 00:12:38,670
course, just to be completely
partisan about it. Jesse waters

220
00:12:38,670 --> 00:12:41,910
on Fox, he takes it to this
extreme. Five years

221
00:12:41,910 --> 00:12:45,600
Unknown: after the Civil War,
pro slavery Democrats filled the

222
00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,710
halls of Congress. And 15 years
later, pro slavery Confederates

223
00:12:49,710 --> 00:12:54,900
actually flipped the house. 51
former Confederate soldiers or

224
00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:58,470
officials were elected into
office. Even the vice president

225
00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:02,640
of the Confederacy, Alexander
Stevens and arch secessionist

226
00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:07,080
landed a seat in Congress.
Another Confederate rebel Lucius

227
00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,190
Lamar, great name, who literally
drafted the Missouri secession

228
00:13:11,190 --> 00:13:15,360
plan, went on to serve as
interior secretary and was later

229
00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,990
appointed to the Supreme Court.
But how is that possible?

230
00:13:19,470 --> 00:13:22,500
Because all week we've been
hearing how the Constitution

231
00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:27,270
bans insurrectionists from
office, the 14th amendment. How

232
00:13:27,270 --> 00:13:29,850
would Confederate soldiers be
allowed to serve in government

233
00:13:29,850 --> 00:13:35,100
but not Donald Trump? Well, it
turns out, Congress eviscerated

234
00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:39,960
the 14th amendment 150 years
ago, because President Ulysses S

235
00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,800
Grant believed national unity
and reconciliation after the

236
00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,390
Civil War was more important
than holding a grudge. This law

237
00:13:48,390 --> 00:13:51,450
has been hollowed out and has
been sitting on the backburner

238
00:13:51,450 --> 00:13:55,050
for years. Well, that is until
Donald Trump came along.

239
00:13:55,140 --> 00:13:59,820
Adam Curry: Yeah, blah, blah,
blah. I love the troll room.

240
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,400
There's always one. There's
always there's always one of the

241
00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,010
trolls who says That's right,
because the Dems and Republicans

242
00:14:05,010 --> 00:14:06,270
flip they flipped.

243
00:14:06,750 --> 00:14:08,670
John C Dvorak: Oh, the Flipped
bullcrap.

244
00:14:09,630 --> 00:14:10,980
Adam Curry: Go back to your six.
Oh,

245
00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:13,470
John C Dvorak: Lincoln was a
Democrat. Okay. Well, you

246
00:14:13,470 --> 00:14:16,650
rewrite history if you have to
know they flipped after LBJ.

247
00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:21,270
They flip LBJ flipped and they
flipped the BJ was a Republican.

248
00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,980
Adam Curry: He was flipper. She
was unlikely. So of course at

249
00:14:25,980 --> 00:14:30,210
MSNBC, Alex Wagner, she actually
I think they actually this is

250
00:14:30,210 --> 00:14:34,050
this is this is them saying
yeah, we need to have we need to

251
00:14:34,050 --> 00:14:35,250
have Trump on the ballot.

252
00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,710
Unknown: Do you worry that
having, for example, the courts

253
00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:40,530
whether the Supreme Court or a
state supreme court decide to

254
00:14:40,530 --> 00:14:43,830
take a candidate off the ballot
to Americans who don't read any

255
00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:47,280
of the rulings who aren't as
familiarized with the events of

256
00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,700
January 6 is perhaps you and I
are that that in and of itself

257
00:14:50,700 --> 00:14:53,400
smacks of authoritarianism. Do
you do you see that at all? Or

258
00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,260
do you think that that's a
meritless argument?

259
00:14:56,100 --> 00:14:58,620
I think that our system has
already been worn down and

260
00:14:58,620 --> 00:15:02,160
eroded. Donald Trump should not
be allowed to run for president

261
00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,940
again, based on the other
branches of government actually

262
00:15:05,940 --> 00:15:09,810
asserting themselves. Right. He
should have been impeached after

263
00:15:09,810 --> 00:15:13,230
January 6, there's never been a
clear case for impeachment in

264
00:15:13,230 --> 00:15:15,330
the history of this country. If
he'd been impeached, you

265
00:15:15,330 --> 00:15:16,620
wouldn't be allowed to run
again. Wait a

266
00:15:16,620 --> 00:15:19,350
Adam Curry: minute. They weren't
impeach him after he was no

267
00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:20,340
longer president.

268
00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:23,760
John C Dvorak: This year, don't
you remember? Yeah, of course,

269
00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,130
the courts absent there's never
by the way, there's never been

270
00:15:26,130 --> 00:15:29,130
such a clear case. And emphasize
the fact that there's no

271
00:15:29,130 --> 00:15:32,970
evidence he wasn't at the insert
ends. What did I what am I

272
00:15:32,970 --> 00:15:37,200
saying he wasn't at the protest.
Thank you. He wasn't, you know,

273
00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,870
he was in his car being driven
away may have wanted to go to

274
00:15:39,870 --> 00:15:40,410
stop it.

275
00:15:40,830 --> 00:15:43,470
Adam Curry: Don't do it. People.
He tweeted, but it told him not

276
00:15:43,470 --> 00:15:47,490
to do it. But he was part of the
Tindering. He was part of the

277
00:15:47,490 --> 00:15:51,420
kindling in the Tindering. And
he lit the match. He lit the

278
00:15:51,420 --> 00:15:52,260
match.

279
00:15:52,290 --> 00:15:53,910
Unknown: There's never been a
clear case for impeachment in

280
00:15:53,910 --> 00:15:56,010
the history of this country. If
he'd been impeached, you

281
00:15:56,010 --> 00:15:57,450
wouldn't be left running this
guy.

282
00:15:58,020 --> 00:16:03,990
Adam Curry: This is you know,
the Ben Rhodes. Ben Rhodes,

283
00:16:04,170 --> 00:16:06,420
Unknown: the courts? Absolutely.
If you look at the letter of the

284
00:16:06,420 --> 00:16:11,550
law, how is it insurrectionists
allowed to get away with the

285
00:16:11,550 --> 00:16:15,270
insurrection act? Right. But the
reality is, we all know the

286
00:16:15,270 --> 00:16:17,910
Supreme Court is not going to
allow him to be removed in the

287
00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:20,820
ballot. We all know that
Congress did not assert itself.

288
00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,020
This question is going to be put
to the American people. I think

289
00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:29,040
inevitably, inevitably, by the
way that inevitably, like,

290
00:16:30,090 --> 00:16:33,510
obviously, it's, you know, the
democratic thing. But

291
00:16:35,550 --> 00:16:38,850
Adam Curry: obviously, we got to
do the democratic thing. Darn.

292
00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:39,720
Obviously,

293
00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,350
Unknown: it's, you know, the
democratic thing. But you were

294
00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:46,080
only where we are with Trump
because the other branches of

295
00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,360
government and the guardrails
and failed, failed

296
00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,620
Adam Curry: the guard rails, the
guard rails. Okay. I've been

297
00:16:52,620 --> 00:16:54,930
thinking I've been thinking a
lot about this, because we kind

298
00:16:54,930 --> 00:16:59,700
of touched on this on the last
show. I think we're both kind of

299
00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:04,320
in agreement now that they want
Trump they want Trump to take

300
00:17:04,350 --> 00:17:08,100
all the nastiness. They didn't
want to dump it all on him. And

301
00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:10,920
I was and I was think why? What
are all the different reasons

302
00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:16,620
for this? So, you know, as you
say, 2025 is going to be it.

303
00:17:16,620 --> 00:17:19,110
That's the cycle for a
financial, as you call it,

304
00:17:19,140 --> 00:17:22,770
downturn. Yeah. downturn, I'm
going to I'm going to call it

305
00:17:22,770 --> 00:17:25,140
deflation, though. We

306
00:17:25,140 --> 00:17:26,220
John C Dvorak: will do this No
way.

307
00:17:26,250 --> 00:17:29,610
Adam Curry: No. Okay. We can say
we know

308
00:17:29,610 --> 00:17:33,240
John C Dvorak: you and that, if
that even begins, people freak

309
00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,650
out so much to

310
00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:37,950
Adam Curry: perfect for Trump.
Perfect, perfect for Trump to

311
00:17:37,950 --> 00:17:41,760
deal with. But even even taking
it further, and I never thought

312
00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,670
that I would be in on this one.
But the more I think about it,

313
00:17:44,670 --> 00:17:50,250
the more it seems like the
logical the logical thing to

314
00:17:50,250 --> 00:17:53,190
throw on to Trump. Now let's
just take into account when you

315
00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:56,580
shouldn't throw under the Trump
Throw, throw onto Trump onto

316
00:17:57,300 --> 00:18:01,920
that thing is a new phrase. So
first of all we have Biden is

317
00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,110
toast. That's never gonna
happen. You know, we've got

318
00:18:04,110 --> 00:18:07,590
people out there screaming he's
genocide. Joe, how many kids you

319
00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:12,030
killed today, Joe? That's not
going to work. He's out. He's

320
00:18:12,030 --> 00:18:15,990
out. The all of the people that
were pro black lives matter are

321
00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:21,090
now pro Palestine. You know,
Biden is seen universally as the

322
00:18:21,090 --> 00:18:25,110
problem here. He's got to go.
It's just there's no chance for

323
00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:28,500
anyone no one wants it. Nobody
wants to be a Democrat in this

324
00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:32,640
presidential election as far as
I can tell. But Trump, when we

325
00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:37,110
had the COVID, let's just call
it a crisis. He's a pushover

326
00:18:37,140 --> 00:18:41,970
when it comes when push comes to
shove. He he relented, he went,

327
00:18:41,970 --> 00:18:47,010
okay. Just two weeks to flatten
the curve. I would call it

328
00:18:47,010 --> 00:18:52,080
choked. Choke is another way to
look at it. So what if they

329
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,720
could they the powers that be
and I think it's always the

330
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,800
financial powers that be? What
if they could create the

331
00:18:58,830 --> 00:19:03,780
ultimate crisis that would
result in something that the

332
00:19:03,780 --> 00:19:07,050
financial sector needs and I
never thought I would resort

333
00:19:07,050 --> 00:19:14,430
back to the 1986 cloud pivot
strategy? Oh, God never know

334
00:19:14,430 --> 00:19:19,620
Glenn Beck? Well, Glenn Beck had
didn't have it, right? Because

335
00:19:19,860 --> 00:19:24,000
he had it partially right. So
the cloud, this cloud is dead.

336
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,710
Francis Fox pivots is still
alive. She's 91 years old. I

337
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:32,430
looked at a whole bunch of
videos from her oversight.

338
00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:35,580
John C Dvorak: It was Jeremy
Pippins. But very funny.

339
00:19:37,290 --> 00:19:40,380
Adam Curry: And, you know, I
tried to get some good videos.

340
00:19:40,380 --> 00:19:43,170
She's just basically a Marxist,
straight up Marxist. Both of

341
00:19:43,170 --> 00:19:46,380
them were professors at
Columbia. She's now an emeritus

342
00:19:46,740 --> 00:19:52,740
professor, some other some other
university. And, and bearing in

343
00:19:52,740 --> 00:19:55,890
mind just in the back of my head
what the former New York banker

344
00:19:55,890 --> 00:20:00,240
said he said, we win over China
because our population She's

345
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,990
growing, which means because
he's a banker, that means they

346
00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:07,170
get to create money somehow, for
some reason, which is always the

347
00:20:07,170 --> 00:20:10,620
point we have a liquidity crisis
right now. They need reasons,

348
00:20:10,620 --> 00:20:15,780
just like with COVID was handy.
We created $7 trillion, was a

349
00:20:15,780 --> 00:20:18,840
handy little crisis we had, and
Trump didn't stop that he

350
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,190
participated in that. So I'm
going to read the two pertinent

351
00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:28,260
paragraphs from the Clintons.
Cloward, Cloward, Pivens 1966

352
00:20:28,260 --> 00:20:32,040
paper, which she propagated
throughout, well, there's not a

353
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,770
lot of video from her with the
60s other than arguing with

354
00:20:34,830 --> 00:20:39,420
Thomas soul. But in the ad, she
wasn't a lot of shows talking

355
00:20:39,420 --> 00:20:43,590
about this. And recently, like a
year ago, on Amy Goodman, which

356
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:46,410
is tedious to watch, there was
nothing clippable the title of

357
00:20:46,410 --> 00:20:50,310
the paper was the weight of the
poor, a strategy to end poverty.

358
00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:56,220
And the strategy is based on
this fact that there's a

359
00:20:56,220 --> 00:20:59,250
discrepancy between the benefits
to which people are entitled

360
00:20:59,250 --> 00:21:02,760
under pet public welfare
programs, and the money they

361
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,960
actually receive. And their
whole idea was, there's probably

362
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:13,260
8 million people, maybe even
more who deserve some kind of

363
00:21:13,260 --> 00:21:17,280
public benefits, entitlements.
But a lot of them don't even

364
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,600
know how much they're entitled
to. And their whole strategy,

365
00:21:21,630 --> 00:21:23,970
which is literally called the
strategy in the paper, the

366
00:21:23,970 --> 00:21:28,020
strategy to end poverty was to
get the unions and all the

367
00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:30,600
worker groups. And of course,
we're seeing this now because

368
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:34,170
the people on the streets, you
know, hohoho, genocide, Joe,

369
00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:37,230
they're all from Socialist
Workers, party, all kinds of

370
00:21:37,230 --> 00:21:40,230
socialists, not jobs out there
with professionally printed

371
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:44,670
signs. The idea is to get so
many people claiming welfare

372
00:21:44,670 --> 00:21:49,470
that they have the right to that
it creates a financial and

373
00:21:49,470 --> 00:21:54,690
political crisis. That's the
idea. It was nothing else but

374
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,030
then never really, Russian

375
00:21:57,060 --> 00:22:01,230
John C Dvorak: it was the make
it simpler. The idea of these

376
00:22:01,230 --> 00:22:05,070
people, the idea was that you
can crush our country, yes, like

377
00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:08,130
overwhelming the system. And
that's kind of what's going on

378
00:22:08,130 --> 00:22:10,890
with the border with this kind
of a test case is you

379
00:22:10,890 --> 00:22:15,300
overwhelmed the border with all
these people come barreling in,

380
00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:18,600
and you can't do anything about
it? Because you just you just

381
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,230
let it happen. And but
overwhelming the system is a way

382
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:23,220
to destroy the system.

383
00:22:23,220 --> 00:22:27,510
Adam Curry: And the end, the
ultimate goal, as per the paper,

384
00:22:27,870 --> 00:22:32,340
would they call general basic
income, because that would

385
00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:35,160
flatten everything out? That
would make it a fair for

386
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,690
everybody. Everybody gets a
basic living wage from the

387
00:22:39,690 --> 00:22:43,830
government. And that was the
final ultimate goal of their

388
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:47,250
strategy. And I don't think it's
this is not a test. This is the

389
00:22:47,250 --> 00:22:52,140
real deal. 10,000 people a day.
That's and that's that's just

390
00:22:52,140 --> 00:22:56,250
what we know of. So I think the
idea is, it's still going to

391
00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:59,430
take a while the system is
strained. But it's not. It's not

392
00:22:59,610 --> 00:23:04,380
collapsing yet. But you keep
this going for 2024. I think we

393
00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:07,860
can get there. I think they can
succeed with overwhelming the

394
00:23:07,860 --> 00:23:11,310
system. We're seeing the city's
already complained. A lot of

395
00:23:11,310 --> 00:23:14,040
complaining, is it overwhelmed?
Not yet, but it will be if they

396
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,670
keep this up. And there's no
evidence that the Republicans

397
00:23:17,670 --> 00:23:22,320
actually want to fix this. I
mean, it's gonna be fixed today.

398
00:23:22,650 --> 00:23:25,860
One word like America's closed,
if you're not coming into the

399
00:23:25,860 --> 00:23:29,130
proper channels go away. We're
not letting you in. That's it.

400
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,820
It's just a policy. The laws are
on the books, but they're all

401
00:23:32,820 --> 00:23:36,870
negotiating from the military
industrial complex, like, oh,

402
00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:40,740
you know, we need to have money
for Israel and money for

403
00:23:40,740 --> 00:23:45,420
Ukraine, but not until you fix
the border. So, so they're all

404
00:23:45,420 --> 00:23:49,950
disingenuous, and I don't even
think it's like one. It's not

405
00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:53,730
like some secret cabal that is
just putting this together. It's

406
00:23:53,730 --> 00:23:56,970
just all these different little
pieces, some evil forces making

407
00:23:56,970 --> 00:23:59,940
this happen. And by the time it
gets to the breaking point,

408
00:24:00,210 --> 00:24:04,350
Trump can be president, bingo,
boom, Shakalaka. We get to the

409
00:24:04,350 --> 00:24:07,710
system falls apart. And I think
that then the suggestion will

410
00:24:07,710 --> 00:24:12,090
come and Elizabeth Warren and
all these, and Maxine Waters and

411
00:24:12,090 --> 00:24:14,340
all these people who have been
doing this for a couple of years

412
00:24:14,340 --> 00:24:18,060
now, I'm going to pop up and the
best thing for them is going to

413
00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:21,120
be the central bank, digital
currency the Federal Reserve

414
00:24:21,270 --> 00:24:24,750
will have it does take an act of
Congress to put that in place in

415
00:24:24,750 --> 00:24:27,930
America, they will be ready for
it. They've already tested

416
00:24:27,930 --> 00:24:32,580
universal basic income and 28
different cities. It'll it'll be

417
00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:35,130
perfect and Trump will go
because everyone wants money.

418
00:24:35,130 --> 00:24:38,460
Look at all the videos Trump
he's my man. You got the black

419
00:24:38,460 --> 00:24:42,090
guys got the spat and Hispanics,
like Yeah, Trump because we got

420
00:24:42,090 --> 00:24:46,080
money under Trump. They want
money, and Trump's gonna give it

421
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,720
to him because that's what will
be presented to him as the

422
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,080
solution to the solution to the
crisis, just as flatten the

423
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,440
curve was just as the vaccine
was and I think he'll buckle and

424
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,260
he'll or choke as you say, and
he'll he'll go for it. That

425
00:24:58,260 --> 00:25:02,970
would be that would be the plan.
And the reason to have Trump

426
00:25:02,970 --> 00:25:06,750
now, you know, spurred on by
these phony baloney take them

427
00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:10,380
off the ballot, which only makes
him more popular. I'm sure that

428
00:25:10,380 --> 00:25:14,400
this leftists are going yeah,
that's not cool man. And I

429
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:20,070
really think that that would be
a perfect, a perfect plan to try

430
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:23,160
and destroy the system the
country and get what they've

431
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,600
always wanted. And I think most
of Congress wants that. They you

432
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,330
know, and then we can get rid of
all the other welfare systems,

433
00:25:30,330 --> 00:25:35,730
we just create money and give it
to people. It's in your app. You

434
00:25:35,730 --> 00:25:37,710
probably think I'm crazy. Well,
you

435
00:25:37,710 --> 00:25:40,260
John C Dvorak: can blame it on
Trump after that. Yes, of

436
00:25:40,260 --> 00:25:41,520
course. Of course.

437
00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:45,180
Adam Curry: Of course, then that
no Democrat wants to wants to

438
00:25:45,180 --> 00:25:49,350
shepherd that in or Usher that
in. Now you you want to be want

439
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:52,290
that to be a Republican, blame
it on him, and Trump is the

440
00:25:52,290 --> 00:25:56,820
perfect guy for it. We already
know that. That was the test.

441
00:25:56,850 --> 00:26:00,420
Oh, okay. All right. Okay, fell
for it.

442
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,580
John C Dvorak: Well, Trump said
would be, like you said, a good

443
00:26:05,580 --> 00:26:12,420
fall guy. He has already shown
the ability. So now Yeah, well,

444
00:26:12,450 --> 00:26:16,740
but of course you can't, you
know, you never know. Things can

445
00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:20,520
happen. It should be a great
Trump may have learned a lesson.

446
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,550
Adam Curry: It'll be a great
year for the show. Wow. If it's,

447
00:26:23,580 --> 00:26:25,470
you know, what lessons that he
learned, he learned that people

448
00:26:25,470 --> 00:26:29,610
love him when he when he signs
the checks. That's that's his?

449
00:26:29,820 --> 00:26:30,360
Unknown: Well, he's,

450
00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:33,870
John C Dvorak: I'm hoping he
learned more than that. He's

451
00:26:33,870 --> 00:26:36,450
Adam Curry: also just a man. I
mean, ultimately, he's just the

452
00:26:36,450 --> 00:26:40,380
guy. And he's not like some
superhero. He's just the dude

453
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:44,700
who sees what's going on. But
he's like,

454
00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:49,770
John C Dvorak: I was watching.
The gut felt show which you

455
00:26:49,770 --> 00:26:55,740
don't like. And that I had to
say cat. Tim had a good just as

456
00:26:55,770 --> 00:26:59,550
one comment, she said that this
thing had happened in Maine. All

457
00:26:59,550 --> 00:27:03,240
it does is add another five to
10 minutes to Trump set.

458
00:27:05,070 --> 00:27:06,780
Adam Curry: She didn't write
that. But it must have been the

459
00:27:06,780 --> 00:27:07,230
right No,

460
00:27:07,230 --> 00:27:08,970
John C Dvorak: no, that's
everything that done that shows

461
00:27:08,970 --> 00:27:11,430
pretty much written by some
good, some pretty talented

462
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:15,000
writers that will who they keep
off, they don't do a credit roll

463
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,930
on that show ever. No. Why would
you do that don't give up those

464
00:27:18,930 --> 00:27:21,390
writers would be poached so fast
that they wouldn't know what

465
00:27:21,390 --> 00:27:25,080
happened. You can't have that.
So we don't know who's writing

466
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,530
the show at all. And they say
I'm pretty convinced that the

467
00:27:28,530 --> 00:27:32,250
guys who are writing the show
are some of the kind of semi

468
00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:36,180
comics that come on the show as
guests and that includes that

469
00:27:36,180 --> 00:27:40,680
Joe Mackay character, who is
kind of a stand up comic, but

470
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,040
he's, you can see that he
because his material that he

471
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,090
presents as himself on the show
is exactly the same as

472
00:27:48,090 --> 00:27:53,130
everybody. I mean, he's, I
believe he's the head writer. Be

473
00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:54,180
anyone who watches the show.

474
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:58,920
Adam Curry: I don't care. So the
Wall Street Journal had this

475
00:27:59,010 --> 00:28:04,950
article headline, Francis
Collins has regret regrets, but

476
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:10,350
too few. And it references a
video Francis Collins, he was

477
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:14,850
Fauci, his boss, if you recall,
and a very, very weird dude

478
00:28:14,850 --> 00:28:18,120
memory was playing his guitar
making up songs about staying

479
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:21,570
home and lock downs and his wife
was dancing in the background.

480
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,640
Yeah, that guy? Well, he was
Fauci, his boss, he was a part

481
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,990
of a lot of the back, back room
oh, ceiling. Oh, and he

482
00:28:30,990 --> 00:28:35,250
resigned. He resigned before the
crap started to hit the fan

483
00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:41,400
about gain of Lies, lies, gain
of function, research, etc. So

484
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,570
I'm unsure where this video is
from Wall Street Journal says it

485
00:28:45,570 --> 00:28:49,020
appeared on x. So I don't know
where it's from. Hopefully,

486
00:28:49,230 --> 00:28:52,170
that's two videos. Hopefully
someone will tell me. But

487
00:28:52,170 --> 00:28:57,450
Francis Collins is indeed
leading the way in an apologist

488
00:28:57,450 --> 00:29:02,910
tour about what happened. And we
start with this quick clip.

489
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:06,510
Unknown: As a guy living inside
the beltway, feeling this sense

490
00:29:06,510 --> 00:29:10,110
of crisis trying to decide what
to do in some situation room in

491
00:29:10,110 --> 00:29:13,830
the White House with people who
had data that was incomplete. We

492
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:18,030
weren't really thinking about
what that would mean, to Wilkin,

493
00:29:18,030 --> 00:29:23,400
his family in Minnesota 1000
miles away from where the virus

494
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,100
was hitting so hard. We weren't
really considering the

495
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:31,020
consequences in communities that
were not New York City, or some

496
00:29:31,020 --> 00:29:34,530
other big city, the public
health people. We've talked

497
00:29:34,530 --> 00:29:36,420
about this earlier. And it's
really important point, if

498
00:29:36,420 --> 00:29:38,430
you're a public health person,
and you're trying to make a

499
00:29:38,430 --> 00:29:43,560
decision, you have this very
narrow view of what the right

500
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,430
decision is. And that is
something that will save a life

501
00:29:48,390 --> 00:29:52,200
doesn't matter what else
happens. So you attach infinite

502
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,940
value to stopping the disease
and saving a life. You attach

503
00:29:56,970 --> 00:30:00,360
zero value to whether this
actually totally did syrups

504
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,930
people's lives ruins the
economy, and has many kids kept

505
00:30:03,930 --> 00:30:06,720
out of school in a way that they
never write quite required for

506
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,710
collateral damage. So there
Yeah, collateral damage. This is

507
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:14,670
a public health mindset. And I
think a lot of us involved in

508
00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:16,770
trying to make those
recommendations had that

509
00:30:16,770 --> 00:30:19,410
mindset. And that was really
unfortunate. That's another

510
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,180
mistake we made. Wow.

511
00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:23,100
Adam Curry: He's admitting
mistakes. This is very

512
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:28,770
interesting. And then he goes
one step further and express his

513
00:30:28,770 --> 00:30:34,500
regret around the Great
Barrington declaration. Now, you

514
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,140
remember, the Great Barrington
declaration was this open letter

515
00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:42,960
published in October of 2020, in
response to the pandemic and the

516
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,500
lockdown saying, Hey, we got to
stop this. This is not the way

517
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:51,660
to go. You know, this thing is
not dangerous. It's not. And by

518
00:30:51,660 --> 00:30:54,240
the way, that not dangerous
thing that went on for two more

519
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,790
years, even though everybody and
you'll even hear Francis Collins

520
00:30:56,790 --> 00:31:00,240
agree that no, it wasn't that
dangerous. People over 65. Yeah,

521
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,330
we had to protect them. But
everybody else did. You should

522
00:31:03,330 --> 00:31:06,510
get we should get it and then
you'll build up natural

523
00:31:06,510 --> 00:31:13,380
immunity. And that was the that
was the the suggested the

524
00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:20,460
suggestion from several. Were
they I think they were there

525
00:31:20,460 --> 00:31:25,080
were scientists with a pen.
virologist can't remember what

526
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,040
it was. It was

527
00:31:26,490 --> 00:31:30,090
John C Dvorak: Gupta, variation
of people, but mostly viral

528
00:31:30,090 --> 00:31:30,990
virologist. Yeah.

529
00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:35,340
Adam Curry: And you'll recall
that there was some back and

530
00:31:35,340 --> 00:31:41,490
forth between Fauci and Collins,
saying, you know, we've got a

531
00:31:41,490 --> 00:31:44,610
knock this, we got to get rid of
this right now. This is crazy.

532
00:31:44,610 --> 00:31:48,150
Of course, there's no mention of
the fact that Pfizer was gearing

533
00:31:48,150 --> 00:31:52,590
up, you know, we had operation
warp speed. The vaccines were in

534
00:31:52,590 --> 00:31:55,200
their final testing phase, they
were getting rid of all the

535
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,960
paperwork of all the dead
people. And we were ready to

536
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,210
roll it out. So we can't have
any of that he's not going to

537
00:32:00,210 --> 00:32:02,730
mention that other than his
regrets here.

538
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,220
Unknown: So this was October of
2020. We had no vaccines, people

539
00:32:08,220 --> 00:32:11,400
were dying at high rates at that
point across the country, but

540
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,600
particularly in cities.

541
00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:17,190
Adam Curry: I might add being
put on ventilators and killed

542
00:32:17,220 --> 00:32:21,660
John C Dvorak: there, or dying
for other reasons and wishes doc

543
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:25,890
heavily documented. Yes, they
die for getting in the car

544
00:32:25,890 --> 00:32:30,030
wreck, but they had COVID they
get because there was there was

545
00:32:30,030 --> 00:32:33,540
incentives to the hospitals and
the doctors, they got extra

546
00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:37,050
money if it was a COVID death.
So everybody was dying of COVID

547
00:32:37,050 --> 00:32:37,320
Yes,

548
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,840
Adam Curry: and I'm not even
sure that Collins was aware of

549
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,850
that. I don't think this was
very mind

550
00:32:41,850 --> 00:32:44,640
John C Dvorak: that still may or
may still not be aware of no

551
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,270
kidding high

552
00:32:45,270 --> 00:32:47,310
Unknown: rates at that point
across the country, but

553
00:32:47,310 --> 00:32:51,720
particularly in cities. There
was a hope we might have a

554
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,060
vaccine or another couple of
months, but nobody knew who was

555
00:32:54,060 --> 00:32:58,080
going to work. These three
epidemiologists very distant,

556
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,870
Adam Curry: that's interesting.
So in October, they didn't know

557
00:33:00,870 --> 00:33:06,120
if it was gonna work. I thought
it was ready by October. But

558
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,580
they held it back, you remember
was like, oh, no, no way.

559
00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:11,310
John C Dvorak: They held it back
past the elections because the

560
00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:15,480
Ebola and the other and all the
heads of these vaccine companies

561
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,530
didn't want Trump to get

562
00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:19,770
Adam Curry: elected. Yeah. Well,
also, Kamala Harris was even

563
00:33:19,770 --> 00:33:23,130
saying, Oh, no, I won't take a
Trump vaccine. Oh, no,

564
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,290
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna
tell everybody all that liberal

565
00:33:25,290 --> 00:33:28,200
said we will take the Trump
vaccine. But once it became

566
00:33:29,550 --> 00:33:32,310
Biden vaccines, same exact
product, it was fine.

567
00:33:33,390 --> 00:33:35,160
Unknown: These three
epidemiologists, very

568
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:40,050
distinguished by their
credentials, were convened in a

569
00:33:40,050 --> 00:33:44,010
gathering in Massachusetts, by
Scott Atlas, who was at that

570
00:33:44,010 --> 00:33:45,420
time advising the president,

571
00:33:45,630 --> 00:33:48,930
Adam Curry: very hated by the
media hated was a nutjob

572
00:33:48,930 --> 00:33:51,030
conspiracy theorists Crazy guy.

573
00:33:51,330 --> 00:33:54,300
Unknown: And they put together
this short declaration which

574
00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:59,670
said, let's stop with closures
of businesses and schools. Most

575
00:33:59,670 --> 00:34:03,510
people who are under 60 or 65,
if they get the virus, they're

576
00:34:03,510 --> 00:34:06,960
going to survive. Let's not try
to protect them. Let's try to

577
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,600
protect those who are
vulnerable, the elderly, and

578
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,160
maybe some others who are
compromised. And eventually the

579
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,060
virus will run its course
through the healthier people.

580
00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:21,240
And we will be able to get
through this without so much

581
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:26,190
damage done to daily life. It
was sort of a letter rip as far

582
00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:29,370
as the younger people I will
maybe it's not a great phrase,

583
00:34:29,370 --> 00:34:32,550
but that was different than what
was currently being proposed and

584
00:34:33,180 --> 00:34:37,890
different. That declaration
would have been a great

585
00:34:37,890 --> 00:34:42,600
opportunity for a broad
scientific discussion about the

586
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,250
pros and cons, but that's not
how it was presented. The day it

587
00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:50,910
was presented. It was presented
to the Secretary of Health and

588
00:34:50,910 --> 00:34:55,140
Human Services, Alex Azar it
would have been presented the

589
00:34:55,140 --> 00:34:58,200
next day to the President if he
wasn't in Walter Reed at the

590
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,620
time being treated for COVID
This was an effort to take a

591
00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:05,070
very fast track of something
which would have potentially

592
00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:09,240
been a major change in national
policy without the opportunity

593
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,270
for any debate or discussion.
And,

594
00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:15,810
Adam Curry: by the way, this is
where Trump folded. He folded on

595
00:35:15,810 --> 00:35:20,670
this, even though I think since
Scott Atlas, quit over this,

596
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,210
ultimately, he's like, God, no
one listened to me. This is what

597
00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:26,040
we should do. As

598
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,250
Unknown: somebody who is deeply
engaged in the federal effort to

599
00:35:29,250 --> 00:35:33,090
try to save lives, I saw this
and I was deeply troubled, I

600
00:35:34,110 --> 00:35:36,810
regret that I use some
terminology that I probably

601
00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:37,320
shouldn't

602
00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:39,990
Adam Curry: conspiracy theorists
as what you call them, and

603
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:43,110
Unknown: that somebody should
put forward a devastating take

604
00:35:43,110 --> 00:35:46,920
down to the dangerous here, and
I regret that, but I was deeply

605
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:53,040
worried. And in a few days, no
less than 14 of the public

606
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,000
health or associations of the
United States all together,

607
00:35:57,030 --> 00:36:01,650
wrote a scathing takedown of the
Great Barrington declaration

608
00:36:01,650 --> 00:36:05,190
saying this would probably kill
10s of 1000s of people,

609
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,430
Adam Curry: we should probably
see if there's any Pfizer or

610
00:36:08,430 --> 00:36:11,730
Maderna money involved with
those 14 organizations that

611
00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:14,250
wrote this scathing response.
And

612
00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:18,840
Unknown: so ultimately, that was
the scientific discussion. But

613
00:36:19,050 --> 00:36:24,570
the effort was made by the
authors and some help from Dr.

614
00:36:24,570 --> 00:36:28,950
Atlas, to try to short circuit
all that and get that into a

615
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:32,280
policy decision without the
opportunity for debate. So I

616
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,160
don't regret saying this is
dangerous. It was

617
00:36:36,570 --> 00:36:41,580
Adam Curry: He can't just say
I'm sorry. Can't just say he

618
00:36:41,580 --> 00:36:46,380
can't say, you know, I screwed
that up. I'm sorry. Which is too

619
00:36:46,380 --> 00:36:49,470
bad. But he gets close. And of
course now he's really

620
00:36:49,470 --> 00:36:51,960
John C Dvorak: hated close is
not good enough. But I mean,

621
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,680
Adam Curry: I have to forgive
everybody. I'm not going to look

622
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,530
backwards, you know, they
they'll have to deal with it the

623
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,110
at the end of their rope when
they have their their happy

624
00:37:01,110 --> 00:37:04,350
ending. They'll have to find out
what they get punished for. But

625
00:37:04,350 --> 00:37:07,320
they have their sudden death.
Yeah, well, speaking of such

626
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,430
Pfizer Kmart advisor is doing
really odd promotional videos.

627
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,220
And they're putting on YouTube
and I'm sure it's part of a

628
00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:21,990
package that maybe will be
promoted by the morning teams in

629
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:25,530
the new year, but they just
completed their acquisition of

630
00:37:25,530 --> 00:37:32,730
Cgn for $54 Billion. See, Jen is
an interesting company.

631
00:37:33,930 --> 00:37:37,110
Unknown: Throughout history, the
relentless pursuit of discovery

632
00:37:37,110 --> 00:37:42,000
has driven us to go beyond what
we ever thought possible. But

633
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,070
our greatest challenges still
lie ahead. In the US alone, one

634
00:37:47,070 --> 00:37:50,370
in three people will receive a
diagnosis of cancer in their

635
00:37:50,370 --> 00:37:54,630
lifetime. That likely means you
or someone you know, will

636
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:57,270
someday face this devastating
disease,

637
00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,100
Adam Curry: notice the music and
the explosions.

638
00:38:00,810 --> 00:38:04,980
Unknown: That's why Pfizer is
going in on cancer. We have the

639
00:38:04,980 --> 00:38:09,600
game changing science and scale
to take all this disease. And

640
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,740
now with the addition of CJ, a
world leader and a powerful

641
00:38:13,740 --> 00:38:18,180
cancer fighting tool, we are
pioneering a new revolution in

642
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:21,870
cancer care. We will harness
cutting edge science and

643
00:38:21,870 --> 00:38:26,790
technologies to attack cancer
from multiple angles. at Pfizer.

644
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,710
We believe that time is life and
for patients waiting for

645
00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:37,530
breakthroughs, each day matters.
We won't rest until we change

646
00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:39,840
the trajectory of cancer as we
know.

647
00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:45,420
Adam Curry: Yes, change the
trajectory of cancer as we know

648
00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:48,630
it turbo cancers it's very handy
that they now have completed

649
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:51,270
that acquisition. They've got
some more genetic theoret

650
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:56,670
therapies that they can use on
people and I guess that's going

651
00:38:56,670 --> 00:39:01,050
to change the trajectory of
cancer. I mean, problem reaction

652
00:39:01,050 --> 00:39:06,240
solution can't get any better.
And then they have learned a lot

653
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:10,650
from Joe Biden's you're gonna
kill grandma, if you don't. If

654
00:39:10,650 --> 00:39:13,620
you don't take the shot.
Remember that? Empty Chair at

655
00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:14,280
the table?

656
00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:18,030
John C Dvorak: Yes, Biden's
empty chair. Yeah, they have

657
00:39:18,030 --> 00:39:18,450
taken

658
00:39:18,450 --> 00:39:20,730
Adam Curry: it full on for their
next campaign.

659
00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:26,790
Unknown: I was a wonderful place
to raise a family. Everything

660
00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:30,870
moves a little slower here. We
all know each other. This is

661
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:35,850
home. I love it here. Hi, I'm
Tammy adverts, and I'm a mother

662
00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:39,690
of two daughters. I have nine
grandchildren. I'm also a

663
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:44,730
private music teacher and a
substitute teacher. The

664
00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:48,810
wonderful thing about having my
grandkids in this area is I get

665
00:39:48,810 --> 00:39:52,170
to see them all the time. I want
to go to the soccer games

666
00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:55,890
through dance recitals. I just
don't want to miss a moment of

667
00:39:55,890 --> 00:40:00,840
their lives. The fall of 2019
Iced You're going to get this

668
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,200
cough I could not get rid of it
took forever for someone to

669
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,620
finally say, why don't we send
you to a pulmonologist and they

670
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:11,250
said you have asthma. And it
wasn't long after that my

671
00:40:11,250 --> 00:40:17,190
contracted RSV from my grandson
I went to babysit my youngest

672
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:21,270
daughter who told me that they
had tested positive for RSV, I

673
00:40:21,570 --> 00:40:25,230
just put a mask on. I thought I
was safe. I had always thought,

674
00:40:25,230 --> 00:40:28,470
Oh, that's a kid's thing. And
the next day, my whole head

675
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:31,470
filled up and it just started to
go down into the chest, which

676
00:40:31,470 --> 00:40:35,820
terrified me was having asthma.
I was sick in bed for good 10 to

677
00:40:35,820 --> 00:40:40,050
12 days, lifeless, my chest was
tight. I was coughing up buckets

678
00:40:40,050 --> 00:40:43,890
of mucus. How am I going to get
through this? What if I die in

679
00:40:43,890 --> 00:40:48,420
the night? I was terrified. I
began thinking how am I going to

680
00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:53,460
be around children, which is my
job, and my grandchildren. It

681
00:40:53,460 --> 00:40:56,670
just broke my heart. I don't
want to be afraid that I'm

682
00:40:56,670 --> 00:41:02,370
always going to catch something
from innocent little kids. I

683
00:41:02,370 --> 00:41:06,540
would just love for everyone to
take this seriously. Because you

684
00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:09,570
don't know how it will affect
you. If and when you get it.

685
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,750
Going through RSP wasn't in
vain? Not at all. I can help

686
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:18,930
other people. So there's my
story.

687
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:24,330
Adam Curry: There you go. Mask
doesn't work. Does you know, I

688
00:41:24,330 --> 00:41:27,810
thought the mask would work. No,
the mask doesn't work. I got it

689
00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:32,790
from my grandkids. If only I had
known, if only I'd

690
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:35,490
John C Dvorak: ever heard of RSV
before five years ago

691
00:41:35,490 --> 00:41:39,150
personally. But okay, I know
it's been around everyone's

692
00:41:39,150 --> 00:41:40,050
noticed this.

693
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,450
Adam Curry: Well, it certainly
is not something that old people

694
00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:45,480
had to take vaccines for because
their kids are going to kill

695
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,830
them. And that's that's just
evil. This

696
00:41:49,860 --> 00:41:53,040
John C Dvorak: is a another
example of why these ads should

697
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,300
be banished from from publisher
the Oh, the you know, the crying

698
00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:00,540
on screen stuff. Yeah. Then

699
00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:04,950
Adam Curry: there's one more
it's a short one. We realized

700
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:08,160
that here at Pfizer, we have
many medications that we sell

701
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,540
you. We don't want you taking
generics, no generics for you.

702
00:42:14,730 --> 00:42:17,820
Unknown: My name is Lev Kubiak.
I've been with Pfizer for just

703
00:42:17,820 --> 00:42:21,810
about six years. Within global
security, we have a breakthrough

704
00:42:21,810 --> 00:42:25,710
goal to do as much as we can to
eliminate counterfeit medicines.

705
00:42:27,390 --> 00:42:30,660
Illicit medicines are a problem
in every country around the

706
00:42:30,660 --> 00:42:34,890
world. Right now we're seeing a
rash of young people who are

707
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,130
purchasing prescription
medicines from online and

708
00:42:38,130 --> 00:42:41,730
unknowingly getting fentanyl
laced pills that can

709
00:42:41,730 --> 00:42:45,930
instantaneously kill them. I
worry about the elderly people

710
00:42:45,930 --> 00:42:49,950
who are on fixed income may be
shopping for medicines on the

711
00:42:49,950 --> 00:42:54,570
internet seeking lower prices,
and get duped by criminal

712
00:42:54,570 --> 00:42:59,340
organizations into buying
counterfeit medicines. The new

713
00:42:59,340 --> 00:43:02,910
campaign of no fakes for health
sake incorporates all of the

714
00:43:02,910 --> 00:43:06,270
elements into an effort to
hopefully have a true

715
00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:09,930
breakthrough moment that would
change patient's lives if no one

716
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,970
fell victim to counterfeit
medicines.

717
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:20,850
Adam Curry: That's right.
Generic is the new counterfeit.

718
00:43:21,810 --> 00:43:24,690
You're shopping for something
cheap online from Canada from

719
00:43:24,690 --> 00:43:28,860
India. They're counterfeit and
they're gonna kill you. That's

720
00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:36,810
for sure. Yeah, that's for sure.
If that wasn't enough, we got a

721
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,440
report today COVID-19 could
trigger a heart failure

722
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,580
pandemic. Oh, yes. It's the j n
dot one strain is going to kill

723
00:43:44,580 --> 00:43:52,500
you know, from heart failure.
Hmm. Yeah, sure. It's the J and

724
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:52,650
I

725
00:43:52,650 --> 00:43:54,630
John C Dvorak: don't know how
they can keep I think that you

726
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:58,830
can keep this going. I mean, I
do like the idea that Pfizer is

727
00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:02,760
because they've sent out the the
clot shot as some people like to

728
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,170
call it and it was sudden death.
Their digests doubled down,

729
00:44:07,170 --> 00:44:10,500
because that's what you do. You
can't ever back off on this or

730
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,080
you're going to be in court. You
all

731
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,940
Adam Curry: Yeah, they can't,
they can't admit to it. And I

732
00:44:14,940 --> 00:44:18,510
think it's interesting what
Collins is doing, because he's

733
00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:21,150
walking a fine line there. I
know. He's retired and

734
00:44:21,150 --> 00:44:24,120
everything. But is he trying to
make good or what is he trying

735
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,230
to do? Why is he doing he's

736
00:44:25,230 --> 00:44:28,110
John C Dvorak: never He never
worked for Pfizer or any of the

737
00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:34,500
big drug companies that I know
of? Or am I wrong? Everyone else

738
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:35,760
has I wouldn't make sense.

739
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,650
Adam Curry: I wouldn't be so
sure about that. You don't think

740
00:44:37,650 --> 00:44:41,160
he's on any patents? You don't
think he's getting anything? No,

741
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,570
he would get all those million
dollar awards for being a

742
00:44:45,570 --> 00:44:51,180
Christian in medicine or
something like that. Maybe? My

743
00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:54,180
questions in Japan though
there's a there's something

744
00:44:54,180 --> 00:44:59,550
called caregiver fatigue.
Elderly Care increasingly

745
00:44:59,550 --> 00:45:03,210
killing off of aging population
to cut costs, just kill them and

746
00:45:03,210 --> 00:45:03,840
like Canada.

747
00:45:05,879 --> 00:45:09,509
John C Dvorak: Class One we're
cutting costs greater than

748
00:45:09,509 --> 00:45:10,199
bottom line

749
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,850
Adam Curry: is a great way.
There's a great way of doing it.

750
00:45:11,850 --> 00:45:12,720
Great way of doing it.

751
00:45:13,170 --> 00:45:15,870
John C Dvorak: So I want to do a
little climate stuff here. Oh,

752
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:20,010
okay. And I want to start by
talking I had that clip I said,

753
00:45:20,010 --> 00:45:26,010
I promised to bring it along.
It's the Al Gore clip, as long

754
00:45:26,010 --> 00:45:29,220
as part of the reasons as long
as it is because it's, I have to

755
00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:32,880
what you're going to hear it has
been sweetened by me.

756
00:45:33,450 --> 00:45:37,440
Adam Curry: has or has not. Has
it has Oh, so you Oh, we a

757
00:45:37,470 --> 00:45:40,590
everybody. It's a Christmas and
New Year's miracle blips and

758
00:45:40,590 --> 00:45:42,810
booms and bongs from John. Now

759
00:45:42,810 --> 00:45:45,180
John C Dvorak: the thing is, I
decided what I'm going to do in

760
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:48,270
the future is I'm going to run a
laugh track under these things.

761
00:45:49,590 --> 00:45:52,230
Adam Curry: Especially with Gore
that's hard to do to do a good

762
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:52,890
laugh track.

763
00:45:52,890 --> 00:45:55,920
John C Dvorak: It takes time
I've been trying for years and

764
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:01,920
it is hard to it's harder to do
than people imagine. Yeah. You

765
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,920
can do it with a hammer. There's
ways of doing it. I just haven't

766
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,460
been able to get the rig set up
properly. But But here's Al

767
00:46:08,460 --> 00:46:12,840
Gore. This is he's on I believe
this is PBS and he's just on and

768
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,420
he's just allowed they asked him
a simple question. What do you

769
00:46:15,420 --> 00:46:19,230
think the future? What's in the
future? The new head is the

770
00:46:19,230 --> 00:46:25,110
news. Our guy asked him and he's
allowed to just ramble, ramble

771
00:46:25,110 --> 00:46:29,070
and ramble and ramble with bull
crap. What's

772
00:46:29,130 --> 00:46:32,970
Unknown: changed in a day? The
street? Wrong one, this one I

773
00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:36,900
got you doesn't act what? What's
the worst case scenario? Well,

774
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,550
the scientists who warned us of
these mega storms and the the

775
00:46:41,550 --> 00:46:45,240
floods and mudslides and
droughts and ice melting in the

776
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:48,510
sea level rising and the storms
getting stronger in the tropical

777
00:46:48,510 --> 00:46:52,560
diseases and climate migrants
crossing international borders

778
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,850
and larger numbers. They were
dead, right? When they warned us

779
00:46:56,850 --> 00:47:01,140
about this, and so we need to
pay more attention to them. Now,

780
00:47:01,230 --> 00:47:04,650
here's one thing they say if we
don't take action, there could

781
00:47:04,650 --> 00:47:10,590
be as many as 1 billion climate
refugees crossing international

782
00:47:10,830 --> 00:47:14,970
borders in the next several
decades. Well, a few million has

783
00:47:15,090 --> 00:47:18,990
contributed to this wave of
populist authoritarianism, and

784
00:47:19,170 --> 00:47:23,880
dictatorships and so forth. What
would a billion do, we can't do

785
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,860
this, we can lose our capacity
for self governance. Already,

786
00:47:28,860 --> 00:47:32,640
we're seeing people driven from
the places they always called

787
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,420
home. And we're seeing an
expansion of areas in the world

788
00:47:36,540 --> 00:47:41,130
that are physiologically
unlivable. Now, because of the

789
00:47:41,130 --> 00:47:46,050
combination of heat and
humidity. They're relatively

790
00:47:46,050 --> 00:47:50,280
small areas now. But if we don't
act, they will expand to include

791
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,690
most of India, large parts of
northern South America, the

792
00:47:54,690 --> 00:47:58,110
Philippines, Indonesia,
Pakistan, and the list goes on.

793
00:47:58,530 --> 00:48:03,360
Ours, the survival of our
civilization is at stake. And it

794
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:10,110
sounds dark, but it is dire. And
but again, the good news is we

795
00:48:10,110 --> 00:48:14,400
can reclaim control of our
destiny, if we summon the the

796
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,880
political will and the courage
and the moral courage to do it.

797
00:48:18,030 --> 00:48:20,700
You know, there's a European
politician Claude Juncker, who

798
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:24,270
said, We all know what to do. We
just don't know how to be

799
00:48:24,270 --> 00:48:30,510
reelected, if we do it. Well.
This is why grassroots pressure

800
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:34,500
from people who understand how
high the stakes are, is the

801
00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:38,130
critical element. And the good
news, again, is people are

802
00:48:38,130 --> 00:48:41,880
rising up and demanding action.
Your new CNN poll shows that

803
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,960
more than three quarters of
Americans, including a majority

804
00:48:46,140 --> 00:48:50,280
76% of independents, and more
than half of the Republicans

805
00:48:50,310 --> 00:48:55,200
support action. We just have to
break the political power that

806
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,430
the fossil fuel industry has
exerted with its fixers and its

807
00:48:59,430 --> 00:49:02,970
lobbyists and its bags of money
and its revolving door

808
00:49:02,970 --> 00:49:07,770
colleagues. But we can do this
Jake, we can do it.

809
00:49:10,170 --> 00:49:12,600
Adam Curry: Do you remember back
in the day when when this first

810
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,550
started, at least when we were
doing the show and there was

811
00:49:14,550 --> 00:49:18,690
another revival of Al Gore and
peak oil and people would say

812
00:49:18,690 --> 00:49:22,260
you guys are getting money from
the from the fossil fuel

813
00:49:22,260 --> 00:49:25,320
companies, you get money for it.
That's what's going on there.

814
00:49:25,830 --> 00:49:29,580
And there's always those guys
and there's another good reason.

815
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:35,820
Another good way to to the
buffalo Trump. It's like hey,

816
00:49:35,820 --> 00:49:39,240
these are climate refugees. Man
put some money into climate

817
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:40,290
change, will you

818
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,210
John C Dvorak: that stupid.
Here's 12 years ago, this is

819
00:49:45,210 --> 00:49:51,360
that I have two more Al Gore
clips from 12 years ago, but

820
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,350
he's actually improved his bit.
I think because he's got the

821
00:49:55,350 --> 00:49:58,350
climate refugees which he never
discussed it. Let's start with

822
00:49:58,350 --> 00:50:02,760
this one. This is the claim Make
classic 12 Gore weather equals

823
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:03,360
climate.

824
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,580
Unknown: A hidden new
information that I'll be focused

825
00:50:08,580 --> 00:50:13,320
on in this new version of the
slideshow includes a lot of the

826
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,730
new startling evidence linking
evidence, these extreme weather

827
00:50:17,730 --> 00:50:22,650
events around the world to the
climate crisis. It's really no

828
00:50:22,650 --> 00:50:27,840
longer a legitimate question for
doubt or debate. I know there's

829
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,590
some people that don't like to
hear it put that way. But people

830
00:50:31,590 --> 00:50:35,130
around the world are suffering
from the consequences of the

831
00:50:35,130 --> 00:50:39,510
droughts and heat waves and the
extreme flooding events and the

832
00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:44,220
unprecedented wind storms and
the fires. It's really gotten to

833
00:50:44,220 --> 00:50:50,100
the point now where it's kind of
absurd for anybody to say, hey,

834
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:55,800
nothing's going on. What what's
what's wrong? July was in the US

835
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:01,320
the hottest month ever measured,
and globally, nine of the 10

836
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,500
hottest years ever measured have
been within the last 10 years.

837
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:12,660
This is the 337 month in a row
where temperatures were higher

838
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:16,920
than the 20th century average.
And the fact that the news media

839
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,000
doesn't report it in that
context. Every night on the news

840
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,270
now practically, is like a
nature hike through the book of

841
00:51:24,270 --> 00:51:26,220
Revelation. God, there it is.

842
00:51:28,530 --> 00:51:30,870
John C Dvorak: Well, here he is.
Here he is, again, this is the

843
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,850
gore going on with Climate
Reality again over over a decade

844
00:51:35,850 --> 00:51:41,790
ago, I think this is 2011. But
this is this is this never ends.

845
00:51:42,690 --> 00:51:45,990
Unknown: What can change in a
day, a street can become a

846
00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:50,790
river, a mountain become a
mudslide. A forest can become

847
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:55,080
Kembla. Across the globe,
cataclysmic weather events are

848
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,470
occurring with such regularity
that it's being called a new

849
00:51:58,470 --> 00:52:01,560
norm meeting fine, but there's
nothing normal about it. And

850
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,370
there's something else that lies
destroyed amid the rubble, the

851
00:52:05,370 --> 00:52:10,110
truth about climate change. Big
Oil and big coal are spending

852
00:52:10,110 --> 00:52:14,190
big money to spread doubt about
climate change. They've been

853
00:52:14,190 --> 00:52:19,350
able to do so quietly, but not
anymore. On September 14, the

854
00:52:19,350 --> 00:52:23,850
world will join hands to create
24 hours of reality, an event

855
00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:26,760
that will focus the world's
attention on the full truth,

856
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:31,500
scope and scale and impact of
the climate crisis. To remove

857
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:35,820
the doubt, reveal the deniers
and catalyze urgency around an

858
00:52:35,820 --> 00:52:40,110
issue that affects every one of
us. Climate change is not your

859
00:52:40,110 --> 00:52:45,210
fault of the climate crisis is
our problem. And real solutions

860
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:49,080
can come when we address it
together. fossil fuel interests

861
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,280
have money influence control,
but together we have something

862
00:52:53,310 --> 00:53:00,600
that they don't reality. Join us
for 24 hours of reality and show

863
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,480
the world what can change in a
day.

864
00:53:05,820 --> 00:53:09,090
John C Dvorak: So this was an
event called The Climate Reality

865
00:53:09,090 --> 00:53:12,720
day and a yearly thing it went
on for 24 hours. I think it was

866
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:13,560
in 2012. Was

867
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,110
Adam Curry: that the channel he
bought? Didn't he buy a cable

868
00:53:16,110 --> 00:53:18,870
channel for a hot minute? Yeah,
he had current currently call

869
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:20,190
your current Yes.

870
00:53:20,490 --> 00:53:24,600
John C Dvorak: And he declared
that reality event. You can look

871
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,380
it up on the Wikipedia. It's
called Climate Reality. And it

872
00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:32,550
was a dud, it was a huge dud. We
never got anywhere with it and

873
00:53:32,550 --> 00:53:35,820
never even Earth Day, which is
still going on. But this thing

874
00:53:35,820 --> 00:53:39,180
dropped dead. It just didn't
happen. And they didn't prove

875
00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:39,810
anything.

876
00:53:40,860 --> 00:53:43,470
Adam Curry: Well, here, here's
what we can expect in this new

877
00:53:43,470 --> 00:53:48,330
year. I think because everyone's
out. It's funny, because of

878
00:53:48,330 --> 00:53:51,150
Trump probably but they haven't
done their typical thing on I

879
00:53:51,150 --> 00:53:55,350
only got science news, who had
the headline climate change may

880
00:53:55,350 --> 00:54:00,600
2023, the hottest year on
record. I haven't seen a lot of

881
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:06,540
that from the television
networks. And I did see concern

882
00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:09,900
over record this is New York
Times concern over record high

883
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:14,820
water levels in the Netherlands.
Very scary. Yeah, most of the

884
00:54:14,820 --> 00:54:18,570
Netherlands is under sea level.
So I read this headline and of

885
00:54:18,570 --> 00:54:22,260
course I speak Dutch so I go to
all the Dutch publications. Do

886
00:54:22,260 --> 00:54:23,550
you know what the headline is
there?

887
00:54:25,860 --> 00:54:29,310
John C Dvorak: I'm guessing not
quite as severe. Who is

888
00:54:29,310 --> 00:54:34,920
Adam Curry: the Masked Singer
it's not a single thing about is

889
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,650
like oh yeah, there was little
concern last week but

890
00:54:37,650 --> 00:54:40,770
everything's gonna be okay.
They've dealt with this for a

891
00:54:40,770 --> 00:54:42,870
long time. Not to

892
00:54:43,230 --> 00:54:45,630
John C Dvorak: the Dutch of all
people of course. They

893
00:54:45,630 --> 00:54:47,820
Adam Curry: know how to do it.
They they built the whole Delta

894
00:54:47,820 --> 00:54:50,820
Works the whole system,
something you in California

895
00:54:50,820 --> 00:54:51,570
could use

896
00:54:53,370 --> 00:54:59,220
Unknown: for Montecito to the
Bay Area, waves as high as 40

897
00:54:59,220 --> 00:55:03,210
feet or pan only in a California
coastline. in Ventura County

898
00:55:03,210 --> 00:55:06,600
this are flooded streets with
debris reaching several blocks

899
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,980
inland. The fire department they
are saying eight people were

900
00:55:10,980 --> 00:55:14,280
sent to the hospital after this
rogue wave smashed into a

901
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:21,060
seawall swamping a pickup truck.
And incinerator. These children

902
00:55:21,060 --> 00:55:24,210
were nearly swept away by the
gigantic swells.

903
00:55:24,270 --> 00:55:26,220
We've got high swells. We've

904
00:55:26,220 --> 00:55:28,890
got waves coming in directions.
We're not used to them coming

905
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,640
even the most seasoned swimmer
and surfer. This is dangerous

906
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:33,180
water

907
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:36,600
on Thursday. Coastal flooding
warnings were in effect for much

908
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:42,000
of Central California. While
evacuation orders were issued in

909
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,480
several communities in Santa
Cruz and Marin counties, it's a

910
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:45,720
pure

911
00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:48,930
state of panic, to be honest, as
far as the community goes,

912
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,600
because, you know, there's
plenty out there that are not

913
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,190
prepared. Further

914
00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:56,160
sound lifeguards kept
inexperienced swimmers out of

915
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,700
the water. But many experts
surfers took advantage of the

916
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:03,420
rare opportunity to ride waves
as high as a two storey

917
00:56:03,420 --> 00:56:03,960
building.

918
00:56:04,350 --> 00:56:06,570
Adam Curry: This is something
that happens periodically in

919
00:56:06,570 --> 00:56:08,220
California. I remember

920
00:56:08,580 --> 00:56:11,820
John C Dvorak: all the time. It
happens at least once a year. It

921
00:56:11,820 --> 00:56:14,670
happens up here. It hasn't
happened recently, but they have

922
00:56:14,670 --> 00:56:19,410
that special surfing
competition. No doubt it would

923
00:56:19,410 --> 00:56:22,290
have been ridiculous waves
coming out. We're gonna have a

924
00:56:22,290 --> 00:56:25,650
competition Surf's up dude. Now
something I think is a little

925
00:56:25,650 --> 00:56:28,950
more rare, which I have a clip
of which is climate the channel

926
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:29,760
got flooded.

927
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:32,730
Adam Curry: No, it's not the
channel. It's not the channel

928
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,740
but okay. Oh, yeah. No, no, I'll
play your clip. Oh, we're

929
00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:40,410
Unknown: breaking a key passage
from Great Britain to Europe.

930
00:56:40,590 --> 00:56:43,920
Flooding has forced the closure
of a rail tunnel between London

931
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,770
and France. This after
unprecedented flooding around

932
00:56:46,770 --> 00:56:50,100
the British capital. Eurostar,
which operates trains from

933
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:53,610
London to Paris, Brussels and
Amsterdam cancelled all of its

934
00:56:53,610 --> 00:56:56,880
services in and out of the city
leaving hundreds stranded in

935
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,810
railway stations. More travel
chaos is expected as Storm

936
00:57:00,810 --> 00:57:04,500
Garrett continues to batter the
UK with high winds and heavy

937
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:05,460
rain. Notice

938
00:57:05,460 --> 00:57:09,000
Adam Curry: the UK gets battered
California gets pounded. It's

939
00:57:09,180 --> 00:57:12,450
wasn't the channel that's
leaking. It's it's a poor

940
00:57:12,450 --> 00:57:15,810
infrastructure in the UK that
actually sprung a leak flooding

941
00:57:15,810 --> 00:57:17,910
Unknown: in a tunnel under the
River Thames has bought all

942
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:21,540
Eurostar train services to a
halt. That's disrupted the

943
00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:24,480
holiday travel plans of many
people bound for London, Paris,

944
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,230
Brussels and Amsterdam. Strong
winds and heavy rain have

945
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:31,620
battered the UK cast as a
warning of more stormy weather

946
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:32,010
ahead.

947
00:57:32,430 --> 00:57:37,830
Music for the masses stranded at
London St Pancras station. The

948
00:57:37,830 --> 00:57:41,490
flooded tunnel has brought
Eurostar trains to a standstill

949
00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:45,840
and disrupted holiday plans.
Many travelers are now

950
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,800
scrambling to reach their
destination as the clock ticks

951
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:55,830
down to 2024. The chaos started
when this undersea rail tunnel

952
00:57:55,830 --> 00:57:59,370
flooded in England, which is
being hit by a spell of severe

953
00:57:59,370 --> 00:58:03,780
weather. The rail operator says
the flooding is unprecedented

954
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,160
Eurostar trains link London to
mainland Europe.

955
00:58:08,370 --> 00:58:10,710
Adam Curry: So it was the crappy
infrastructure of the British

956
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:11,250
town so you're

957
00:58:11,250 --> 00:58:14,310
John C Dvorak: telling me it's
just a tunnel in England and not

958
00:58:14,310 --> 00:58:16,830
the shuttle per se?

959
00:58:16,860 --> 00:58:24,600
Adam Curry: Yes, correct. Yeah.
It's their infrastructure. But

960
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:27,000
you know, got to close the
channel and maybe it is leaking

961
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:27,300
flow

962
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:29,790
John C Dvorak: they do have they
have they've their subway system

963
00:58:29,790 --> 00:58:31,560
floods every so often to or so

964
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,230
Adam Curry: does New York. I
mean, all these things have you

965
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:36,750
know what? Life is not perfect.
It's not Disneyland when

966
00:58:36,750 --> 00:58:38,700
John C Dvorak: you get something
underground under a bunch of

967
00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:43,140
water. Yeah, yeah, things
happen. That because of rising

968
00:58:43,140 --> 00:58:44,640
tides, just back to

969
00:58:44,700 --> 00:58:47,460
Adam Curry: Al Gore for a
moment, you know, he, he entered

970
00:58:47,460 --> 00:58:54,450
this. His original entrance into
the climate scam was to set up a

971
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:59,250
carbon credit trading market was
Yeah, that wasn't even that guy

972
00:58:59,250 --> 00:59:02,670
who was doing the first one.
Yeah, the guy he died the the

973
00:59:02,670 --> 00:59:05,310
guy who originally set that up
with I forgot who that was.

974
00:59:05,820 --> 00:59:07,110
John C Dvorak: And he was
different. I think he was the

975
00:59:07,110 --> 00:59:09,930
finance guy. He was sorry to
make this thing work. And so

976
00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:15,090
when he died in that, it wasn't
gonna work anyway, it really

977
00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:15,600
was.

978
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,660
Adam Curry: So it was like the
Adam curry of carbon. You know,

979
00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:21,060
like, I always have all these
great ideas and I'm 10 years too

980
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:22,980
early and everyone else becomes
a billionaire.

981
00:59:24,930 --> 00:59:25,710
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's it.

982
00:59:27,420 --> 00:59:30,510
Adam Curry: Let me see who
Maurice something was Maurice I

983
00:59:30,510 --> 00:59:34,710
think was Maurice Maurice. What
was his name? Murray's mix a

984
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:40,740
lot. CC X CC x was the what was
that thing? Anyway, maybe the

985
00:59:40,740 --> 00:59:44,790
troll room knows. Maurice
anyway. But that's also coming

986
00:59:44,790 --> 00:59:48,540
around because I'm gonna I have
my one classic clip of my own,

987
00:59:48,540 --> 00:59:52,800
which I will take back to almost
one year ago, January, when it's

988
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:53,220
not much

989
00:59:53,220 --> 00:59:54,150
John C Dvorak: of a classic.

990
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:59,190
Adam Curry: It's a classic
light. When the Biden

991
00:59:59,190 --> 01:00:03,720
administration and announced
that they would be putting they

992
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,750
would be calculates the new
asset class if you can remember.

993
01:00:07,230 --> 01:00:11,250
Yeah, asset class is and in
fact, I think you and Horowitz

994
01:00:11,250 --> 01:00:14,700
talks about on DH unplugged DH
unplugged every Tuesday live.

995
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:18,360
Well, he's so nice to promote us
all the time I feel bad

996
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:20,640
John C Dvorak: promotes us all.
At every show he does.

997
01:00:22,620 --> 01:00:25,860
Adam Curry: More eco log rolling
Maurice Strong. It just came to

998
01:00:25,860 --> 01:00:28,890
me. No thanks to you troll room,
Maurice Strong was the guy's

999
01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:34,470
name. So the you guys are
talking about the UK putting

1000
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:39,150
prostitution and cocaine on
their balance sheet. Once you

1001
01:00:39,150 --> 01:00:40,170
guys talking about that?

1002
01:00:40,950 --> 01:00:43,170
John C Dvorak: Prostitution and
cocaine. Yeah,

1003
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,540
Adam Curry: this a couple years
back, they decided to put that

1004
01:00:45,540 --> 01:00:47,250
onto the balance sheet saying
oh, well, that's part of our

1005
01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:48,030
GDP.

1006
01:00:49,530 --> 01:00:51,780
John C Dvorak: Because it was
even I don't remember that. But

1007
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:53,850
you don't remember. It's
something we would have talked

1008
01:00:53,850 --> 01:00:56,400
Adam Curry: about. Yeah. Well, I
thought I heard about it again

1009
01:00:56,430 --> 01:00:59,880
on DHS. Like I know, we talked
about it. I wonder if we have a

1010
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:03,660
clip of it. Let me see. You kill
you know,

1011
01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:04,590
John C Dvorak: technically.

1012
01:01:05,250 --> 01:01:06,600
Adam Curry: Here we go.

1013
01:01:07,980 --> 01:01:09,690
Unknown: Yes. Well, I'm

1014
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,970
John C Dvorak: gonna put the
drug trade on the balance sheet

1015
01:01:11,970 --> 01:01:16,470
that's gonna pump up your GDP by
billions. prostitution. I don't

1016
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:18,720
know what the number is on that.
But I don't think it's as high.

1017
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,780
I think, you know, that I think
I don't even know what the

1018
01:01:21,780 --> 01:01:24,780
prostitution situation is
anymore. It seems that it's all

1019
01:01:24,780 --> 01:01:26,430
online. But

1020
01:01:26,430 --> 01:01:30,240
Adam Curry: it's still it's
still part of the GDP. Yeah,

1021
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,010
John C Dvorak: I would think so.
Anyway, so

1022
01:01:32,430 --> 01:01:34,200
Adam Curry: the Biden
administration decided that, oh,

1023
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,130
we're gonna put parts of the
United States nature onto our

1024
01:01:38,130 --> 01:01:40,170
balance sheet, which would be
another great because Trump,

1025
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,700
he's a macro guy, he would love
this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we can

1026
01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:47,040
just count that as a part of our
GDP, it'll make my numbers look

1027
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:47,550
great.

1028
01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:49,680
Unknown: So central banks are
also starting to understand

1029
01:01:49,710 --> 01:01:53,820
nature has real value, carbon,
we already figured out. And

1030
01:01:53,820 --> 01:01:58,620
carbon is moving very quickly
into a system where it's going

1031
01:01:58,620 --> 01:02:02,520
to be very close to a currency,
basically being able to take a

1032
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:07,320
ton of absorbed or sequestered
carbon, and be able to create a

1033
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,490
forward pricing curve with
financial service architecture,

1034
01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:14,940
documentation, I just came out
of a meeting this morning, how

1035
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:17,580
we're trying to accelerate that,
to be quite honest not to get

1036
01:02:17,580 --> 01:02:20,250
very boring that we're on
financial topics and things, but

1037
01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:22,920
they're going to be derivatives.
And you need is the

1038
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,110
documentation if you want to
trade a derivative in the

1039
01:02:25,110 --> 01:02:28,830
marketplace. And all of this
actually matters for nature as

1040
01:02:28,830 --> 01:02:32,460
well. I'm going to quickly hand
off but again, I want to talk

1041
01:02:32,460 --> 01:02:33,900
about value one more guarantee

1042
01:02:33,900 --> 01:02:37,470
John C Dvorak: Yellowstone. So
what my trade some shares a

1043
01:02:37,470 --> 01:02:40,710
Yellowstone and give me some
shares a Yosemite, yeah.

1044
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,310
Yellowstone, I'm gonna get some
futures, hey,

1045
01:02:44,340 --> 01:02:49,020
Adam Curry: they just the UAE
just bought a third of Zambia or

1046
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:53,940
whatever. For carbon credits,
this is exactly what they're

1047
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:55,710
talking about. It's crazy,
because the

1048
01:02:55,710 --> 01:03:00,840
Unknown: southern part of the
world has value far greater than

1049
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,080
large elements of the northern
part. And we started thinking

1050
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:10,110
about and putting prices on
water on trees on biodiversity,

1051
01:03:10,290 --> 01:03:13,950
we find where does that doing a
lot of work out of Asia. And I

1052
01:03:13,950 --> 01:03:17,220
say that my next door neighbor,
Indonesia is the left lung of

1053
01:03:17,220 --> 01:03:21,090
the world. And obviously,
Brazil, right? And Africa,

1054
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:26,610
absolutely critical. And we need
their natural capital. As a

1055
01:03:26,610 --> 01:03:31,260
system based world more than
really, that 66 billion we've

1056
01:03:31,260 --> 01:03:33,990
got sitting in the basement of
the Bank of England. So how do

1057
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:36,360
we and I'm hoping this
discussion today, at least from

1058
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,260
a central bankers point of view,
and how do we start tokenizing?

1059
01:03:40,260 --> 01:03:43,560
How do we start building system
tokenize that actually create

1060
01:03:43,620 --> 01:03:47,520
not only the value but transfer
that value around the world? So

1061
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,310
Adam Curry: this is what your no
agenda show? Does. We had this

1062
01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:53,850
one year ago, we talked about
this. Then we saw at COP 28.

1063
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:59,160
What do we see? We saw the UAE
buying large swaths of Africa

1064
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,280
for carbon credits. And you
heard something else in there

1065
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,730
biodiversity is worth money.
Well, let's give you a jingle

1066
01:04:05,730 --> 01:04:13,260
from seven years ago. We are
ahead of the curve here it is

1067
01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:13,770
Wall Street

1068
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,510
John C Dvorak: that was a lot
older than that.

1069
01:04:18,300 --> 01:04:23,430
Adam Curry: 2017 Oh, yeah. So
it's seven, seven years old.

1070
01:04:24,510 --> 01:04:31,410
Wall Street Journal. From May
29 2014. Drugs prostitution, add

1071
01:04:31,470 --> 01:04:35,580
10 billion pounds to the UK
economy. overhaul of how GDP is

1072
01:04:35,580 --> 01:04:37,980
calculated to include
contribution of illegal

1073
01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:42,450
activity. And they still they
still suck, they still can't

1074
01:04:42,450 --> 01:04:45,930
make it work. And they put
hookers and blow on there.

1075
01:04:47,010 --> 01:04:51,270
That's pathetic. His grip is
great. Yeah, everything Joe

1076
01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:55,560
we're gonna tokenize it well,
that sounds fantastic. tokenize

1077
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,790
everything and, and you were
talking about the gas no more

1078
01:04:59,790 --> 01:05:03,660
gas. As homes, no more gas and
new buildings. You talked about

1079
01:05:03,660 --> 01:05:06,690
that in the last show did a clip
last show was yes those Yeah,

1080
01:05:06,690 --> 01:05:08,160
well, here's the follow up so
the

1081
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,950
Unknown: state of Illinois is
ringing in the New Year with

1082
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:13,620
what else new environmental
regulations

1083
01:05:13,650 --> 01:05:17,550
on January 1, the Land of
Lincoln will be the first state

1084
01:05:17,550 --> 01:05:20,460
to require all new homes and
apartment buildings to be

1085
01:05:20,460 --> 01:05:24,450
equipped with electric vehicle
charging stations as the quote

1086
01:05:24,450 --> 01:05:29,130
right to charge movement.
Currently, 10 states already

1087
01:05:29,130 --> 01:05:34,380
have a right to charge policy in
place and a number to grow as

1088
01:05:34,380 --> 01:05:38,130
blue states look to jumpstart
the Democrats forced transition

1089
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:39,840
to EVs right

1090
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,550
Adam Curry: to charge right to
charge

1091
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,580
John C Dvorak: when did we not
have the right to charge

1092
01:05:44,580 --> 01:05:45,900
Adam Curry: movement? Haven't
you heard?

1093
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,370
John C Dvorak: There's there's
so some suppression going on

1094
01:05:50,370 --> 01:05:53,730
that we need the right to
charge. I'm wondering,

1095
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,460
Adam Curry: I didn't look this
up. But I'm sure that this is

1096
01:05:56,460 --> 01:05:58,200
some great industry.

1097
01:05:58,620 --> 01:06:01,380
John C Dvorak: Is there a
charging station that has that

1098
01:06:01,380 --> 01:06:05,130
which is expensive? That has to
be built into new homes? Is that

1099
01:06:05,130 --> 01:06:06,630
going to be in the garage here
it

1100
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:10,230
Adam Curry: is right to that's
everywhere right to charge laws?

1101
01:06:10,890 --> 01:06:14,100
Right to charge plug in America?
There's your group right there

1102
01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:18,930
plug in america.org Those guys
about a boot? Is

1103
01:06:18,930 --> 01:06:22,650
John C Dvorak: this a in the
garage? Yeah, well, you're not

1104
01:06:22,650 --> 01:06:25,470
supposed to put your electric
car anymore, because the

1105
01:06:25,470 --> 01:06:28,140
insurance won't cover you your
house when it burns to the

1106
01:06:28,140 --> 01:06:28,680
ground.

1107
01:06:28,710 --> 01:06:31,110
Adam Curry: Oh, man, I can't
believe I didn't clip that there

1108
01:06:31,110 --> 01:06:38,280
was a was a great, great clip of
this lady who got a loaner car

1109
01:06:38,310 --> 01:06:42,240
which? Let me see it was her
Mercedes loaner car and it

1110
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:47,490
exploded in her garage. It was
it was Evie. Their whole house.

1111
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,360
Also, second story of the house.
Yeah, I think this is it. Let me

1112
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,140
see if I can bring this up.
There was this here. This is it.

1113
01:06:55,350 --> 01:06:56,190
Let's go buy

1114
01:06:56,190 --> 01:06:58,530
John C Dvorak: your drink. From
a local family. They

1115
01:06:58,530 --> 01:07:01,470
Unknown: say an electric car
sparked this fire that destroyed

1116
01:07:01,470 --> 01:07:05,970
their home. And it wasn't even
their car. It was a loaner. The

1117
01:07:05,970 --> 01:07:09,210
homeowner told us they had the
loaner while their personal car

1118
01:07:09,210 --> 01:07:11,970
was being serviced. This
happened in knockety in St.

1119
01:07:11,970 --> 01:07:13,110
Johns County. Take a

1120
01:07:13,110 --> 01:07:15,750
look at the video again. Look at
what's left behind almost

1121
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:18,180
nothing left of the car itself.

1122
01:07:18,330 --> 01:07:22,320
Adam Curry: Their whole house is
burned down. So she had a

1123
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,530
charger she had an Eevee and
then the loaner Evie she got

1124
01:07:25,530 --> 01:07:31,350
exploded in the garage. This is
this is the industry Mercedes

1125
01:07:31,350 --> 01:07:35,910
these cars will not be
insurable. People will not. It's

1126
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:39,090
John C Dvorak: not as though
they're gonna be Yeah, insurance

1127
01:07:39,090 --> 01:07:44,820
is gonna be outrageous. They
can't this has to stop. I mean,

1128
01:07:44,820 --> 01:07:48,930
Amazon has decided to pull its
electric little trucks and

1129
01:07:48,930 --> 01:07:50,700
they're gonna move back to
diesel.

1130
01:07:51,630 --> 01:07:56,250
Adam Curry: Yeah, the reviens
Yeah, we have we had our insider

1131
01:07:56,250 --> 01:07:56,730
telling that

1132
01:07:56,730 --> 01:07:58,530
John C Dvorak: the rivian they
had no they had those regs. They

1133
01:07:58,530 --> 01:08:00,960
have a bunch of electric
different kinds of electric

1134
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,750
vehicles are impractical. Yeah.

1135
01:08:05,220 --> 01:08:08,640
Adam Curry: Yes, they are
impractical. Just like a golf

1136
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,490
carts like you know, you want to
it's like a golf cart that

1137
01:08:11,490 --> 01:08:15,330
doesn't look stupid you know,
it's good for tooling around

1138
01:08:15,330 --> 01:08:17,130
town. I could

1139
01:08:18,030 --> 01:08:19,620
John C Dvorak: go to the story
not going to drive more than 30

1140
01:08:19,620 --> 01:08:21,480
or 40 miles are fantastic. Yeah,
I

1141
01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:24,270
Adam Curry: could see that I can
see me getting a little little

1142
01:08:24,270 --> 01:08:26,520
golf cart for Frederick's In
fact, I'm gonna get a golf cart.

1143
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,540
John C Dvorak: Do should I think
you'd be looking very close that

1144
01:08:30,540 --> 01:08:33,090
guy. One of those a weirdo one
of those

1145
01:08:33,090 --> 01:08:37,710
Adam Curry: were the Rolls Royce
front end and I'll be waving

1146
01:08:37,710 --> 01:08:42,570
everybody like the queen. Hello.
Hello. patina on the back. Yeah,

1147
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,220
sure. Sure. So

1148
01:08:44,220 --> 01:08:46,230
John C Dvorak: I have a couple
more classes and other classes

1149
01:08:46,230 --> 01:08:49,800
last Eclipse classic Eclipse.
Let's first start with today's

1150
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:54,420
news. This is today this is the
new news is from W NT. This is

1151
01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:57,360
what's going on because in the
New Years, you know we gotta

1152
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,310
consider what's going to happen.
We got to be careful

1153
01:08:59,340 --> 01:09:01,710
Unknown: heading into New Year's
Eve police across the country

1154
01:09:01,710 --> 01:09:05,730
are on alert from New York City
to Washington DC to Los Angeles.

1155
01:09:05,940 --> 01:09:09,420
The NYPD deploying 1000s of
officers to watch over and

1156
01:09:09,420 --> 01:09:13,620
expected crowd of 1 million in
Times Square ABC is Aaron

1157
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:15,180
Springer in New York.

1158
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,900
Tonight the nation's largest
police force is expanding

1159
01:09:18,900 --> 01:09:22,410
security measures for New Year's
Eve amid what the NYPD calls a

1160
01:09:22,410 --> 01:09:25,800
heightened and dynamic risk
environment fueled by the Israel

1161
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:26,730
Hamas war.

1162
01:09:26,759 --> 01:09:30,449
We will be out here with our
canines, our horse backs,

1163
01:09:30,869 --> 01:09:33,569
drones. Helicopters are boats.
Why at

1164
01:09:33,570 --> 01:09:36,570
least now bracing for the chance
pro Palestinian demonstrators

1165
01:09:36,570 --> 01:09:39,510
could disrupt festivities in
Times Square like they did

1166
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:42,300
during the thanksgiving parade.
Authorities will also be

1167
01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:45,270
watching for potential acts of
terrorism after last New Year's

1168
01:09:45,270 --> 01:09:48,570
Eve when an alleged ISIS
sympathizer attacked officers at

1169
01:09:48,570 --> 01:09:52,680
a checkpoint with a large knife.
Today the FBI took us inside the

1170
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,680
room where they'll have eyes on
the crowd anything in particular

1171
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:56,220
where you

1172
01:09:57,570 --> 01:10:00,570
had a Sunday I will say no
nothing right now them nothing's

1173
01:10:00,570 --> 01:10:04,230
wearing us. It's just that we
have to get it right. Every

1174
01:10:04,230 --> 01:10:05,280
time. outside

1175
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,400
New York the FBI is eyeing a
broad set of potential soft

1176
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,310
targets at other New Year's Eve
celebrations, including

1177
01:10:11,340 --> 01:10:15,330
fireworks barges in San
Francisco, and outlaw motorcycle

1178
01:10:15,330 --> 01:10:19,470
gangs that have been warring in
Las Vegas. The FBI telling us

1179
01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:21,900
today with there's nothing that
should keep anyone away from

1180
01:10:21,900 --> 01:10:25,290
Times Square on New Year's Eve.
There are no specific threats.

1181
01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:26,220
Do

1182
01:10:26,220 --> 01:10:27,420
Adam Curry: not be alarmed
citizen.

1183
01:10:27,630 --> 01:10:30,750
John C Dvorak: No specific
threats go Let's go. Hey, Ken.

1184
01:10:30,750 --> 01:10:34,920
years ago, classic 2014 New York
City New Year's celebration.

1185
01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:39,120
Adam Curry: You sprung it on me
here we go shall garden

1186
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,180
Unknown: place bomb sniffing
dogs and radiation detectors in

1187
01:10:42,180 --> 01:10:46,020
the crowd. Police will also be
monitoring hundreds of cameras

1188
01:10:46,020 --> 01:10:50,460
in Times Square from inside this
command center. This as protests

1189
01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:53,850
against police are expected
across the country from New York

1190
01:10:53,850 --> 01:10:57,630
to LA over what protesters are
calling oppressive police

1191
01:10:57,630 --> 01:11:01,410
tactics. Already in St. Louis, a
group arrested after storming

1192
01:11:01,410 --> 01:11:05,400
police headquarters. And back
here in Times Square the people

1193
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,180
here can't leave and come back
and no backpacks will be allowed

1194
01:11:09,180 --> 01:11:11,940
anywhere near here. Again, the
concern is that more than a

1195
01:11:11,940 --> 01:11:14,430
million people will be here
tonight, Elizabeth.

1196
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,520
Alright. Geo thank you so much.
We're going to turn now to news.

1197
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:17,550
Oh,

1198
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,500
Adam Curry: wait a minute.
You're telling me this is like a

1199
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:21,690
package to do every year? Oh,
well.

1200
01:11:21,690 --> 01:11:24,840
John C Dvorak: Let's go to 20
That was 20 for 2014. Let's go

1201
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:25,980
to 2015 His

1202
01:11:25,980 --> 01:11:28,530
Unknown: name is Emmanuel
Larchmont. He's 25 years old.

1203
01:11:28,770 --> 01:11:32,040
And what the FBI says he planned
to do was to carry out an attack

1204
01:11:32,490 --> 01:11:36,390
at a restaurant in the Rochester
area tonight, New Year's Eve and

1205
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:39,510
he was in touch with and
directed by according to the

1206
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:44,820
FBI, an ISIS member overseas.
His plot plot was to carry out

1207
01:11:44,820 --> 01:11:50,070
this attack using pressure
cooker cooker bombs. People and

1208
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:53,700
kill them. Jim. The FBI really
says though that you know this

1209
01:11:53,700 --> 01:11:57,720
guy has got a long criminal
history in New York, including

1210
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:03,270
for robbery and for mental
health issues. And he pleaded

1211
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:07,800
with a couple of FBI informants
including one who's paid $19,000

1212
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:12,000
and other paid $7,000 for their
work helping the FBI with these

1213
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,990
cases. He recorded a video
yesterday, pledging allegiance

1214
01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:19,140
to ISIS before carrying out what
he planned to carry out this

1215
01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:20,970
attack today in Rochester.

1216
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:27,960
Adam Curry: That's interesting.
That we never heard after you

1217
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:32,070
know after the pressure cooker
bomb in Boston. The only thing

1218
01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:37,020
that happened is the Instant Pot
gained great popularity is to

1219
01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:40,320
blame. For the one of course
Instant Pot was the bomb. Oops,

1220
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,980
I'm sorry, Insta pot that became
a thing. Oh, I need an Insta

1221
01:12:43,980 --> 01:12:47,370
pot. But wasn't like people were
worried that high is a lot of

1222
01:12:47,370 --> 01:12:50,250
people buying up instant pots
that could be turned into bombs

1223
01:12:50,250 --> 01:12:51,840
just like Boston.

1224
01:12:53,220 --> 01:12:55,770
John C Dvorak: Looking at the
past, let's go to Belgium in

1225
01:12:55,770 --> 01:12:58,350
2014. Overseas

1226
01:12:58,350 --> 01:13:00,840
Unknown: tonight Belgium on
alert threats of a possible

1227
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,630
terror attack forcing
authorities to cancel New Year's

1228
01:13:03,630 --> 01:13:06,990
Eve fireworks in Brussels. The
decision today following the

1229
01:13:06,990 --> 01:13:10,200
arrest of two terror suspects
accused of plotting to attack

1230
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,110
police soldiers and huge crowds
celebrating the holidays.

1231
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:16,590
Authorities saying the plan may
have been inspired by ISIS.

1232
01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:22,020
John C Dvorak: If anybody
remembers 2014 This is be pre

1233
01:13:22,020 --> 01:13:24,810
Trump free. You know there's
right in the middle of Obama.

1234
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,430
They had canceled fireworks
everywhere. The Seattle Space

1235
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:33,120
Needle didn't have all around
the country. Oh no, we can't

1236
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,340
have fireworks was ISIS.

1237
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,250
Adam Curry: Let's let's go to
CNN yesterday in New

1238
01:13:38,250 --> 01:13:42,870
Unknown: York City. Security
always tight has been increased

1239
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:47,910
this year. While officials
stress there has no specific

1240
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:51,960
reporting regarding any threats.
A joint threat assessment based

1241
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:56,250
on analysis from 10 law
enforcement agencies warned the

1242
01:13:56,250 --> 01:13:59,100
Israel Hamas conflict has
created a heightened threat

1243
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:02,640
environment. Therefore, the
intelligence community remains

1244
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,390
concerned about lone offenders
using online platforms to

1245
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:10,230
express threats of violence
against Jewish Muslim and Arab

1246
01:14:10,230 --> 01:14:13,080
communities, as well as
committing simple,

1247
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,790
unsophisticated attacks that are
difficult to detect in advance.

1248
01:14:18,030 --> 01:14:22,410
The assessment obtained by CNN
reminds police that massive live

1249
01:14:22,410 --> 01:14:26,190
televised events remain an
attractive target for foreign

1250
01:14:26,190 --> 01:14:30,450
terrorist organizations as well
as domestic violent extremists.

1251
01:14:30,990 --> 01:14:34,200
It's a threat stream that will
be monitored minute to minute

1252
01:14:34,230 --> 01:14:37,740
leading up to midnight New
Year's Eve and multiple command

1253
01:14:37,740 --> 01:14:44,400
posts. From the NYPD is joint
operation center to its

1254
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,780
Intelligence Bureau to the FBI
is Joint Terrorism Task Force

1255
01:14:48,810 --> 01:14:52,230
gathered in an operation center
in lower Manhattan. We know

1256
01:14:52,230 --> 01:14:54,930
the attacking saw we're gonna
make some adjustments so I

1257
01:14:54,930 --> 01:14:58,290
tactics no one's getting set up.
Well, I can put it to that way.

1258
01:14:58,350 --> 01:14:58,740
Stay

1259
01:14:58,740 --> 01:15:00,630
Adam Curry: safe citizens stay
safe. Don't worry, we're

1260
01:15:00,630 --> 01:15:04,650
vigilant, man, they just
freaking everybody out all day

1261
01:15:04,650 --> 01:15:08,970
long. Don't fall for this. This
is horrible. And, and these

1262
01:15:08,970 --> 01:15:13,620
protests, these protests, which
of course, would there will be

1263
01:15:13,620 --> 01:15:18,750
protests, of course, it will be
pro Palestine protests, because

1264
01:15:18,750 --> 01:15:22,590
we've had them, the airports
that they're everywhere now

1265
01:15:22,590 --> 01:15:25,740
there. Have they even blocking
highways in the novel by the

1266
01:15:25,740 --> 01:15:28,500
way? It's not it's not unique.
The Netherlands? Oh, yeah. The

1267
01:15:28,500 --> 01:15:32,760
Netherlands. I Yeah. They're
blocking the eight, the 810 or a

1268
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,290
12 highway, which has a lady
that literally have a blockade

1269
01:15:37,410 --> 01:15:41,460
where the ambulances have to get
off the highway to get people to

1270
01:15:41,460 --> 01:15:44,100
the hospital right there and
they're blocking it like morons.

1271
01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:48,180
In America. This all comes from
the critical media, literally, I

1272
01:15:48,180 --> 01:15:53,910
mean, the Coalition for
liberated ethnic studies. And I

1273
01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:59,040
have their website right here.
It's very, very graphic heavy.

1274
01:15:59,700 --> 01:16:03,870
And they're affiliated
organizations. It's amazing how

1275
01:16:03,870 --> 01:16:07,410
many five elements SF
abolitionists teaching network,

1276
01:16:07,500 --> 01:16:11,790
academia Cesar Chavez era
resource and organizing center

1277
01:16:11,790 --> 01:16:16,380
borderlinx bro cada Filipino
Men's Health healing collective

1278
01:16:16,620 --> 01:16:19,920
community responsive education
community voices for public

1279
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,400
education, education for
liberation, Minnesota educators

1280
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:29,160
for anti racism Inc. l griotte.
And Ariad toe project,

1281
01:16:29,250 --> 01:16:33,180
Empowering Pacific Islander
Communities. exito UC Santa

1282
01:16:33,180 --> 01:16:36,270
Barbara, intercultural
development research is on and

1283
01:16:36,300 --> 01:16:38,040
on and on and on.

1284
01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:41,100
John C Dvorak: Yeah, all from
the same website designer in the

1285
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:42,870
same five people. And

1286
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:46,080
Adam Curry: here's a little
information about this toolkit,

1287
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,900
the toolkit, I have a link in
the show notes if you want to

1288
01:16:49,020 --> 01:16:52,170
get your tools to use to get
involved.

1289
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,780
Unknown: Last month, the
Coalition for liberated ethnic

1290
01:16:54,780 --> 01:16:58,110
studies shared a link to its
critical media literacy rooted

1291
01:16:58,110 --> 01:17:02,520
in ethnic studies, a Curriculum
Toolkit for Palestine, what

1292
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,820
kinds of lesson plans and
resources are we seeing here?

1293
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:09,900
Well, a good way to think about
this is if for people who have

1294
01:17:09,900 --> 01:17:13,620
seen these holiday disruptions
of people blocking the roads to

1295
01:17:13,620 --> 01:17:17,310
get into JFK airport, or the
Airport in Los Angeles, or the

1296
01:17:17,310 --> 01:17:21,240
airport in Chicago, that's
largely what this is. So in

1297
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:25,140
addition to this toolkit, you
know, being about totally anti

1298
01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:28,650
American, totally anti Israel
totally against Western values.

1299
01:17:28,650 --> 01:17:31,980
And, you know, the usual stuff
we hear about the oppressor

1300
01:17:31,980 --> 01:17:36,840
versus oppressed, etcetera. It
calls for action. And the action

1301
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,660
that it calls for is what we
were seeing in the streets with

1302
01:17:39,660 --> 01:17:45,120
people blocking traffic. It
also, you know, has petitions

1303
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:50,460
for students or staff to send to
elected officials. And these are

1304
01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:54,510
petitions that accused Israel of
genocide. So again, the language

1305
01:17:54,510 --> 01:17:58,650
is very extreme. And if you can
imagine sort of the most extreme

1306
01:17:59,580 --> 01:18:03,600
protests and demonstrations that
people have been seeing, just

1307
01:18:03,630 --> 01:18:07,650
across the country, the language
is largely the same as what

1308
01:18:07,650 --> 01:18:09,960
we're seeing in this toolkit.
Yeah,

1309
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:12,660
Adam Curry: so it's just it's
just in the classrooms. It's the

1310
01:18:12,660 --> 01:18:16,890
teachers handed out. We got a
note from one of our teachers

1311
01:18:16,890 --> 01:18:20,910
this morning. Who says, you
know, all the teachers are no

1312
01:18:20,910 --> 01:18:23,700
good. They've got Che Guevara
posters.

1313
01:18:24,030 --> 01:18:25,320
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I got that
note.

1314
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:26,130
Adam Curry: They've got

1315
01:18:27,570 --> 01:18:28,920
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let you
read a little bit of it.

1316
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:33,660
Adam Curry: Okay. Hold on a
second. And of course, it's it's

1317
01:18:33,660 --> 01:18:41,130
anonymous. Let me see here. Yes,
oops, boots on the ground. I got

1318
01:18:41,130 --> 01:18:47,460
it here. I got it here.
Anonymous, students are way

1319
01:18:47,460 --> 01:18:49,950
behind. But more interesting to
me is the fact that the vast

1320
01:18:49,950 --> 01:18:53,250
majority of teachers are utterly
unimpressive people who have an

1321
01:18:53,250 --> 01:18:56,640
extremely limited very often
left view of the world. There

1322
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,040
are at least two teachers who
have Che Guevara posters on the

1323
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,860
walls in their classrooms, which
amazes me that they think that

1324
01:19:01,860 --> 01:19:05,370
the Butcher of Castro should be
an idol to look up to. Many not

1325
01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:08,460
all have trans flags in their
rooms or on their classroom

1326
01:19:08,460 --> 01:19:11,190
doors. Many of them have no
control over the classrooms.

1327
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,490
Students in my room behaved much
better than most any other room

1328
01:19:14,490 --> 01:19:17,070
in the school. I attribute that
to the high standards both for

1329
01:19:17,070 --> 01:19:18,960
me and my students, which most
teachers don't have for

1330
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,320
themselves or their students.
Clear Rules expectations, a

1331
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,260
genuine connection. I'm often
told that I'm their favorite.

1332
01:19:25,260 --> 01:19:29,430
Well, of course, I told this,
the spine teacher I said get

1333
01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:33,060
into the homeschooling movement.
Yeah, all those parents can

1334
01:19:33,060 --> 01:19:35,310
leave that to take their kids
out of that school. You

1335
01:19:35,310 --> 01:19:42,660
shouldn't have to suffer this
idiocy and using all the schools

1336
01:19:42,660 --> 01:19:46,140
are that way. Yeah, I think you
think well, not the homeschools

1337
01:19:46,740 --> 01:19:47,070
Well, no

1338
01:19:47,070 --> 01:19:48,090
John C Dvorak: homeschool is
your home.

1339
01:19:49,980 --> 01:19:55,860
Adam Curry: Different but this
stuff, this is so crazy. That

1340
01:19:55,890 --> 01:20:00,930
this flows right into the
magical AI and I love people are

1341
01:20:00,930 --> 01:20:04,830
telling me that I'm so wrong.
You better better learn curry.

1342
01:20:04,980 --> 01:20:09,810
Otherwise it'd be too late for
you. Kind of late. AI is going

1343
01:20:09,810 --> 01:20:16,620
to eat me. So I went into chat
GPT but now I know, I don't pay

1344
01:20:16,620 --> 01:20:21,000
for anything. So I get to 3.5 I
don't get the four. But I said,

1345
01:20:21,690 --> 01:20:27,780
I said bastard. I said, tell me
a good Jewish joke. And Chad GPT

1346
01:20:27,780 --> 01:20:30,510
said, here's one Why did the
rabbi bring a ladder to the

1347
01:20:30,510 --> 01:20:34,620
party? Because he heard the
drinks were on the house. Oh,

1348
01:20:34,620 --> 01:20:37,980
that brings a smile. Then I
said, tell me a good Muslim

1349
01:20:37,980 --> 01:20:41,820
joke. I cannot fulfill this
request. I strive to be

1350
01:20:41,820 --> 01:20:44,400
culturally sensitive and
respectful of all religions and

1351
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,370
beliefs. Muslims, like any other
group, except Jews should be

1352
01:20:47,370 --> 01:20:50,220
stereotyped should not be
stereotyped or mocked jokes that

1353
01:20:50,220 --> 01:20:52,380
target a particular religion or
group can be hurtful and

1354
01:20:52,380 --> 01:20:56,460
prevented by perpetuate harmful
stereotypes. Instead, I focus on

1355
01:20:56,460 --> 01:20:58,950
humor that brings people
together and celebrate shared

1356
01:20:58,950 --> 01:21:01,410
human experience. If you need
access assistance, or have a

1357
01:21:01,410 --> 01:21:04,020
different topic you'd like to
explore, feel free to ask.

1358
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:10,800
John C Dvorak: So you can't just
say if this is you, I'm not in

1359
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,050
agreeing with generally What's
your take on this whole thing.

1360
01:21:13,050 --> 01:21:17,580
But I'm in total agreement with
your take on the ridiculous

1361
01:21:17,580 --> 01:21:22,560
verbosity, which is a good word
for this word. verbosity, yes,

1362
01:21:22,740 --> 01:21:28,020
that the this system has. It's
no reason to go on and on and on

1363
01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:30,870
and on and on and on and on. But
that's the giveaway.

1364
01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:34,440
Adam Curry: Nobody talks like
that. What do you mean the what

1365
01:21:34,440 --> 01:21:36,480
is the giveaway? What do you
mean by giveaway? Well,

1366
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:38,640
John C Dvorak: you said it
yourself. When you did something

1367
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:43,710
for Tina. And she says didn't do
this. This was a I was it was

1368
01:21:43,710 --> 01:21:47,310
verbal. He went on and on and on
and on and on about bold crap

1369
01:21:47,310 --> 01:21:50,700
that's got nothing to do with
anything. And it's what it does.

1370
01:21:50,700 --> 01:21:56,670
It did the setup is too long.
The sort of conclusion that it

1371
01:21:56,670 --> 01:22:01,200
got on that one is too too long
as yak, yak yak. It doesn't no

1372
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,560
one does that. It's not the way
people write. So,

1373
01:22:04,770 --> 01:22:07,260
Adam Curry: but I think you also
agree with me that this is a

1374
01:22:07,260 --> 01:22:09,870
dud, and we're just waiting for
the pivot, which may take

1375
01:22:09,870 --> 01:22:14,820
another year. Then of course,
all the money is in the computer

1376
01:22:14,850 --> 01:22:18,000
in the cloud. That's what open
that's what Sam Altman is doing

1377
01:22:18,330 --> 01:22:21,600
that he's he's going to start a
chip company and that's where

1378
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:22,830
it's all going to come from.

1379
01:22:24,330 --> 01:22:27,960
John C Dvorak: That'll be the
dud. anybody thinks you can just

1380
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:32,280
go started chip company unless
you're from a chip company and

1381
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:35,310
you've been there a long time
and you're stealing stuff that

1382
01:22:35,670 --> 01:22:40,860
that's what happened with Intel.
It was the two guys were Roizen,

1383
01:22:40,860 --> 01:22:47,640
more were hot shots at
Fairchild. They went off. And

1384
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,670
they took the idea of an
Integrated Electronics as

1385
01:22:50,670 --> 01:22:54,030
opposed to just transistors, and
they went off and did their own

1386
01:22:54,030 --> 01:22:56,940
thing. And they're gonna get
sued by Fairchild. But then

1387
01:22:57,660 --> 01:23:00,570
there's where the story is told
to me. Fairchild was going to

1388
01:23:00,570 --> 01:23:04,950
sue the two of them for starting
up a new company, developing

1389
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:10,800
microprocessors. And then
Shockley which Fairchild turns

1390
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,620
out to be started the same way
Intel was started guys left

1391
01:23:13,620 --> 01:23:16,950
Shockley semiconductors and
started Fairchild. And Shockley

1392
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:20,040
said, Hey, you sue them. I'm
suing you, and that was the end

1393
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,730
of it. And nobody's been sued
senses. AMD. Well,

1394
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,990
Adam Curry: the problem is,
there's a culture and I don't, I

1395
01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:30,840
don't think we've really picked
up on this just a little bit

1396
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:35,280
with the Effective Altruism. But
there's a culture in Silicon

1397
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:41,880
Valley, where these types of
people Sam Backman, fried, Sam

1398
01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:50,490
Altman, Elon Musk, Marc
Andreessen. All these people

1399
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:55,380
have these wild Bo fantasies, a
lot of them are micro dosing

1400
01:23:55,380 --> 01:23:59,490
ketamine and other other
hallucinogenic drugs. And they

1401
01:23:59,490 --> 01:24:03,120
go into venture capitalists with
with a PowerPoint and you just

1402
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,600
put in you know all these terms
and words and they know hey,

1403
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,240
we're going to change the future
and you need to be part of it.

1404
01:24:09,390 --> 01:24:13,860
And and venture capital
investors who are hideous view

1405
01:24:13,860 --> 01:24:17,280
and I've dealt with them they
did just meet two guys remember

1406
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:21,690
juiced remember juiced. We were
told all podcasting is no good.

1407
01:24:21,690 --> 01:24:24,390
You got to be like juiced Come
on, you remember Juicy J i

1408
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:26,550
John C Dvorak: remember juice, J
O S T, I

1409
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:29,160
Adam Curry: believe. You got to
be more like that. They said it

1410
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:33,270
to client. It was the biggest
dud ever. Right? Because and we

1411
01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:37,230
can mock it. Listen, we call a
lot of things right? I was using

1412
01:24:37,230 --> 01:24:42,060
Amazon's Alexa way before anyone
was even looking at it. And I

1413
01:24:42,060 --> 01:24:45,150
said this had Apple's logo on
it. People be losing their crap.

1414
01:24:45,330 --> 01:24:48,420
And we use it and we'll be using
for three years before it caught

1415
01:24:48,420 --> 01:24:51,150
on. And then we said this is
going to end and we were right

1416
01:24:51,150 --> 01:24:54,960
about that Mastodon very early
on the mastodon train. Oh,

1417
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,020
podcasting. So when people say
you don't know you're talking

1418
01:24:58,020 --> 01:25:00,960
about eBay who Yeah, maybe I'm
running Haven't models at home?

1419
01:25:00,990 --> 01:25:04,380
It's no good. The crap
hallucinates.

1420
01:25:04,410 --> 01:25:07,170
John C Dvorak: I like your voice
the guy that's always bitching.

1421
01:25:07,410 --> 01:25:09,570
I don't know who that guy is,
but he sure hates you.

1422
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,650
Adam Curry: He's on. No agenda
social. We've met we mocked

1423
01:25:13,650 --> 01:25:17,340
Virtual Reality augmented
reality Google glass

1424
01:25:17,490 --> 01:25:20,220
John C Dvorak: glass Hall. That
was yeah, that was a loser from

1425
01:25:20,220 --> 01:25:21,900
the get go the blockchain

1426
01:25:21,900 --> 01:25:26,700
Adam Curry: bull crap. We call
that FTX and SBF as bull crap,

1427
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,270
bull crap. And we we've been
right about this. But now, now

1428
01:25:30,270 --> 01:25:34,140
we've gotten to this AI thing.
And this is almost concerning.

1429
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,290
The people running these
companies who are getting a lot

1430
01:25:37,290 --> 01:25:39,780
of money and of course,
subsequently go sit in

1431
01:25:39,780 --> 01:25:43,650
Washington DC, with the smartest
people in the world. Who knows

1432
01:25:43,650 --> 01:25:47,640
what they're coming up with. But
policy is being written, this is

1433
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:51,450
money, there's so much money,
but DC people are all corny

1434
01:25:51,450 --> 01:25:55,590
about it. And then we come to
this article that I think you

1435
01:25:55,590 --> 01:26:01,320
also received called Test Greil.
Did you see

1436
01:26:02,850 --> 01:26:04,950
John C Dvorak: this? So I have
that you should read that one.

1437
01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:06,330
That's actually kind of
interesting. Well, I

1438
01:26:06,330 --> 01:26:09,600
Adam Curry: have a couple of
clips regarding this. Test real

1439
01:26:10,110 --> 01:26:11,610
T explain it first,

1440
01:26:11,610 --> 01:26:12,660
John C Dvorak: explain the whole
thing.

1441
01:26:12,660 --> 01:26:16,380
Adam Curry: So test reel is what
they call a bundle of acronyms.

1442
01:26:16,470 --> 01:26:21,960
A bundle of terms for this
Silicon Valley. People like bank

1443
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:26,940
Winfrey, like Elon Musk, like
Sam Altman, but a lot of a lot

1444
01:26:26,940 --> 01:26:30,900
of it has to do with you know,
kind of like queer, quasi gay

1445
01:26:30,900 --> 01:26:34,740
sex cultish type people. And I
think you can put Elon Musk in

1446
01:26:34,740 --> 01:26:37,770
all of those categories, but
it's an acronym for

1447
01:26:37,770 --> 01:26:44,910
transhumanism extro, pianism,
singular terian ism cosmic ism

1448
01:26:44,940 --> 01:26:49,050
rationalism and Effective
Altruism and then long term ism.

1449
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,730
And all these people is really
there. They're all in on kind of

1450
01:26:53,730 --> 01:26:59,700
a Jules Verne, them Wernher von
Braun, like, we can all live

1451
01:26:59,700 --> 01:27:02,340
forever. It's really their fear
of death. Let's put it that way.

1452
01:27:02,340 --> 01:27:04,770
They're all micro dosing.
They're afraid of dying, but

1453
01:27:04,770 --> 01:27:07,680
they figured out we're so smart,
we can get billions of dollars.

1454
01:27:07,890 --> 01:27:11,520
And we can save ourselves from
dying by creat. You know,

1455
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,700
uploading our brains into the
cloud. Yeah, that's it, but this

1456
01:27:14,700 --> 01:27:14,820
is

1457
01:27:14,820 --> 01:27:17,220
John C Dvorak: really the same
crowd.

1458
01:27:17,250 --> 01:27:20,100
Adam Curry: It's true. So
there's been a couple of people

1459
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:23,070
who have jumped out of this and
say, Well, these guys are nuts

1460
01:27:23,070 --> 01:27:27,780
and crazy, I want no part of it.
It's not for the reasons that

1461
01:27:27,780 --> 01:27:32,460
you and I think they're nuts and
crazy. This Emil P Taurus please

1462
01:27:32,460 --> 01:27:35,700
note, he has to have a p and as
an immune P tourists to do the

1463
01:27:35,700 --> 01:27:38,400
same to my see, yeah, but he's
not doing it because there's

1464
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:45,090
another divorce. The Taurus out
there, Emile P Torus, he is

1465
01:27:45,090 --> 01:27:48,870
blowing the whistle on this
crazy group, because he says

1466
01:27:48,870 --> 01:27:53,010
that they're threatening AI
researchers, they want to kill

1467
01:27:53,010 --> 01:27:56,220
AI researchers, they thought
everything about these people,

1468
01:27:56,220 --> 01:27:59,580
these people are crazy. So
anyone who wants to, they're

1469
01:27:59,580 --> 01:28:03,720
into accelerationism, we have to
it has to go fast. Don't worry

1470
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,830
about it. This is what open AI
was supposed to stop with all

1471
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:11,400
these ideologues, they kicked
all of them out. Remember that a

1472
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,060
roll? Remember the lady who was
from Australia, you know, like

1473
01:28:15,060 --> 01:28:20,370
20 years old? And yes, we have
to be careful AI. No, no, they

1474
01:28:20,370 --> 01:28:23,160
just, they just want it to
accelerate. And they can do any

1475
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,670
anything they need to end the
money people are all in, here's

1476
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:28,800
an explanation of the acronym
open

1477
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,950
Unknown: AI has, you know, huge
amount of money from Microsoft

1478
01:28:31,950 --> 01:28:36,630
and Amazon just gave anthropic 4
billion, if I remember

1479
01:28:36,630 --> 01:28:42,120
correctly. So if you look at the
origins of these companies, they

1480
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:48,030
all go back directly to a test
roll movement. And, you know, so

1481
01:28:48,030 --> 01:28:52,260
big tech, there's a sense in
which big tech is not like,

1482
01:28:52,860 --> 01:28:59,970
other domains where there's lots
of money and really powerful

1483
01:28:59,970 --> 01:29:01,530
companies like fossil fuel
companies.

1484
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:03,480
Adam Curry: I mean, you're gonna
have to live with it, because

1485
01:29:03,480 --> 01:29:05,910
this guy is one of them. And
this is how they all talk. This

1486
01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:08,550
is how Altman talks bank
Winfrey, they all talk like

1487
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:09,750
this. And we just have to, and

1488
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:13,830
John C Dvorak: as you know, from
my clip edge, you can make a

1489
01:29:13,830 --> 01:29:16,050
must give talks like that, too.
Yes.

1490
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,630
Unknown: What is you know, if
you ask the question, what is

1491
01:29:18,630 --> 01:29:20,310
motivating these fossil fuel
companies to

1492
01:29:20,940 --> 01:29:24,420
John C Dvorak: stop? Not you
mentioned it's a meal you get,

1493
01:29:24,450 --> 01:29:25,110
oh,

1494
01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:29,250
Adam Curry: it's a big millio
and, and Andreessen he looked at

1495
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,970
Marc Andreessen P. Marca he has
this I don't know if it's silly.

1496
01:29:32,970 --> 01:29:37,350
He had it in his Twitter
profile. Test realism forever. I

1497
01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:40,770
mean, these and he's, he's a
money guy. They all are all in

1498
01:29:40,770 --> 01:29:41,460
on this

1499
01:29:41,550 --> 01:29:43,560
John C Dvorak: one mistake. The

1500
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,270
Unknown: question what is
motivating these fossil fuel

1501
01:29:45,300 --> 01:29:48,990
companies to do what they're
doing? It's profit like that.

1502
01:29:49,020 --> 01:29:52,440
That is new provides a a
comprehensive and complete

1503
01:29:52,740 --> 01:29:56,100
explanatory picture of what's
going on with big tech. That's

1504
01:29:56,100 --> 01:30:00,240
only half the half of the
picture. The other half of The

1505
01:30:00,270 --> 01:30:04,530
explanation concerns the techno
utopian vision, which is at the

1506
01:30:04,530 --> 01:30:06,450
very heart of the testable
bundle.

1507
01:30:06,690 --> 01:30:09,840
Do me a favor for the audience.
Just spell out test real.

1508
01:30:10,110 --> 01:30:15,870
What are you stands for just
reserved? Yeah, it's T SCR,

1509
01:30:15,900 --> 01:30:17,340
Adam Curry: I don't have to do
that. I just told you what that

1510
01:30:17,340 --> 01:30:23,550
is. Let's go into the web. So
it's really they want to build

1511
01:30:23,550 --> 01:30:28,320
perfect humans. What does that
remind you of? Then you can

1512
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,410
build the perfect though. Let's
put the perfect human reminds

1513
01:30:31,410 --> 01:30:33,330
John C Dvorak: me of Hitler. You
know, I

1514
01:30:33,330 --> 01:30:37,020
Unknown: mentioned test cruel,
the Tesco movement goes back,

1515
01:30:37,050 --> 01:30:42,360
you know, basically 30 years to
the late 1980s, early 1990s. But

1516
01:30:42,390 --> 01:30:46,590
transhumanism again the backbone
of this bundle of ideologies.

1517
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:54,510
That traces its genealogy back
to the early 20th century. So,

1518
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:59,250
you know, in the work of like
Julian Huxley, JBS Haldane JD

1519
01:30:59,250 --> 01:31:00,720
Bernal, they're a bunch of
others.

1520
01:31:00,870 --> 01:31:02,970
Adam Curry: Do you know any of
those authors? Any of them?

1521
01:31:04,470 --> 01:31:05,400
John C Dvorak: Yeah, most of
them.

1522
01:31:05,430 --> 01:31:07,530
Adam Curry: Oh, what are they?
Are they nut jobs?

1523
01:31:07,980 --> 01:31:09,270
John C Dvorak: Well, one of them
was Huxley. I

1524
01:31:09,270 --> 01:31:11,730
Adam Curry: think he meant he
didn't say all this Adolphus

1525
01:31:11,730 --> 01:31:13,500
Huxley. No, no, he's just
different Huxley.

1526
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,500
John C Dvorak: Blood, Plato's
names again,

1527
01:31:16,620 --> 01:31:18,690
Unknown: you know, in the work
of like Julian Huxley,

1528
01:31:18,690 --> 01:31:20,610
Adam Curry: Joanne Huxley.
Julian

1529
01:31:20,610 --> 01:31:23,190
John C Dvorak: Julian has a
famous, very famous famous for

1530
01:31:23,190 --> 01:31:26,880
what what kind of stuff he was.
He was a transhumanist. And it

1531
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,900
ahead of his time he was I think
the brother of Aldous Huxley's

1532
01:31:30,900 --> 01:31:31,650
are all related,

1533
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,890
Adam Curry: by the way, Jaron
Lanier, neither one of these

1534
01:31:34,890 --> 01:31:41,070
guys, you know, weird, weird
sexual, like no weird gay ish

1535
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:41,370
type.

1536
01:31:41,790 --> 01:31:43,920
John C Dvorak: Near is a
interesting character. I do know

1537
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:48,450
him. He is. He has dreads.

1538
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,070
Adam Curry: Yes, he does.

1539
01:31:50,550 --> 01:31:55,140
John C Dvorak: And he's kind of
a, let's say stocky. People like

1540
01:31:55,140 --> 01:31:59,610
Donkey. I'll just summarize.
Jaron Lanier is a stocky guy who

1541
01:31:59,610 --> 01:32:03,900
has dreads they're long and he
never showers.

1542
01:32:04,530 --> 01:32:08,730
Adam Curry: He's the father of
virtual reality, John. People

1543
01:32:08,730 --> 01:32:09,690
like Molly woods,

1544
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:11,700
John C Dvorak: he's he's
promoted this you know, like

1545
01:32:11,700 --> 01:32:15,780
Adam Curry: Molly would find a I
got interviewed Jaron Lanier.

1546
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,110
John C Dvorak: I've had good
chats with him. Yeah.

1547
01:32:19,140 --> 01:32:21,150
Adam Curry: But he also talks
difficult

1548
01:32:21,300 --> 01:32:24,060
Unknown: on JPS holding JBS
holding

1549
01:32:25,140 --> 01:32:26,940
Adam Curry: any idea? No, no.

1550
01:32:26,970 --> 01:32:30,270
Unknown: Jg Bernal, there are a
bunch of others, many of whom

1551
01:32:30,630 --> 01:32:35,280
were very prominent and
important, you genesis of the

1552
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:38,190
you know, the this first wave
eugenics movement. So Julian

1553
01:32:38,190 --> 01:32:40,890
Huxley, for example, and he's
the guy who popularized the term

1554
01:32:40,890 --> 01:32:46,650
transhumanism in the
1950s 1960s. And, you know, so

1555
01:32:46,650 --> 01:32:51,810
after the atrocities of the
Nazis during the 1930s 1940s,

1556
01:32:51,990 --> 01:32:56,010
even after that, eugenics
persisted, so there's continuity

1557
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,650
across the 20th century with
eugenics movement, which a lot

1558
01:32:58,650 --> 01:33:01,140
of people don't realize and
transhumanism is basically

1559
01:33:01,500 --> 01:33:05,760
eugenics on steroids with
respect to its goal, because

1560
01:33:05,790 --> 01:33:09,630
fuel to Genesis they wanted to
just perfect the human stock and

1561
01:33:09,630 --> 01:33:12,120
also to prevent humanity from
degenerating which is a big

1562
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:16,980
concern among many people fact,
one of the the theories of how

1563
01:33:17,220 --> 01:33:23,130
racial groups evolved, evolved
this generation and, you know, a

1564
01:33:23,130 --> 01:33:27,690
lot of the worst aspects of the
20 central eugenics movement, I

1565
01:33:27,690 --> 01:33:30,450
think, are still kind of all
over the place in the medical

1566
01:33:30,570 --> 01:33:34,350
movement, but transhumanism
itself that is a version of

1567
01:33:34,410 --> 01:33:36,360
eugenics if you ask a
philosopher, it's

1568
01:33:36,390 --> 01:33:37,620
uncontroversial. And by the

1569
01:33:37,620 --> 01:33:42,000
Adam Curry: way, that's perfect
with our US history. The Hitler

1570
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,700
got the eugenics idea from us.

1571
01:33:45,090 --> 01:33:45,570
John C Dvorak: Yeah,

1572
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,310
Adam Curry: that's the you know,
we're

1573
01:33:47,310 --> 01:33:48,690
John C Dvorak: always into that
stuff. Yeah,

1574
01:33:48,690 --> 01:33:52,230
Adam Curry: we had, you know,
prettiest baby contest at fairs

1575
01:33:52,230 --> 01:33:53,340
and everything is not

1576
01:33:53,670 --> 01:33:56,670
John C Dvorak: You can't miss
Miss America. And then you know,

1577
01:33:56,670 --> 01:33:57,120
we were

1578
01:33:57,150 --> 01:34:00,180
Adam Curry: we were sterilizing
black people hey, you know, we

1579
01:34:00,180 --> 01:34:02,910
can we can have what wasn't
there even a Supreme Court

1580
01:34:02,910 --> 01:34:06,210
justice, who at one point said
three generations of this is

1581
01:34:06,210 --> 01:34:06,750
enough

1582
01:34:08,670 --> 01:34:11,340
John C Dvorak: to remember but
it wouldn't surprise me and

1583
01:34:11,370 --> 01:34:13,770
Adam Curry: and then, of course,
Hitler started writing fan

1584
01:34:13,770 --> 01:34:18,090
letters to these people, the
American eugenics society. And

1585
01:34:18,090 --> 01:34:21,360
then he was like, Oh, I'm gonna
get some Jews and the American

1586
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:25,770
eugenics 100 Dude, Nah, dude.
We're gonna be real quiet.

1587
01:34:26,130 --> 01:34:29,610
John C Dvorak: They go saying
Oh, dude, but yeah, that effect

1588
01:34:29,610 --> 01:34:30,180
give me we're

1589
01:34:30,180 --> 01:34:32,760
Adam Curry: gonna be quiet for a
little bit here. ixnay on the

1590
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:36,810
ASEAN gay, okay, we can't do
that. But but but it's still the

1591
01:34:36,810 --> 01:34:40,260
culture and it's now moved to
Silicon Valley. And they're also

1592
01:34:40,380 --> 01:34:43,260
I love this guy. They're also
colonialists, because you know,

1593
01:34:43,260 --> 01:34:44,130
space. I

1594
01:34:44,130 --> 01:34:47,550
Unknown: mean, one of the ways
that these ideologies in this

1595
01:34:47,550 --> 01:34:51,450
movement as impacted the world
Oh,

1596
01:34:52,050 --> 01:34:54,990
John C Dvorak: stop for one
second, of course. I have to say

1597
01:34:54,990 --> 01:35:01,140
that listening to this guy's his
pattern of speech. Just put it

1598
01:35:01,140 --> 01:35:05,160
that way really makes me cringe
because that you're right. This

1599
01:35:05,190 --> 01:35:10,740
is a milieu type of speak. It's
it's a, it's a funny kind of a

1600
01:35:10,740 --> 01:35:13,680
chatter that people should know
if you ever hear somebody that

1601
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,860
talks like this, and there's
plenty of them, Silicon Valley

1602
01:35:16,860 --> 01:35:21,270
kick him in the shins. These are
our people that have issues.

1603
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,320
Yes, this guy probably doesn't
get, I don't know if he may be a

1604
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,390
virgin. There's

1605
01:35:27,390 --> 01:35:30,000
Adam Curry: a large part of
that. Remember, we had a note

1606
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,180
from one of our producers who
was in this movement early on in

1607
01:35:33,210 --> 01:35:36,600
Austin is a big, big contingent
in Austin. And he says,

1608
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,900
ultimately, it was really just
weird SEC stuff. If you didn't

1609
01:35:39,900 --> 01:35:43,890
have the billions of dollars.
And it's all about the long term

1610
01:35:43,890 --> 01:35:48,600
ism is it's okay to kill people.
Now, as long as the future of

1611
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:52,530
humans can live, we only really
need this is literally the

1612
01:35:52,530 --> 01:35:56,550
literature. We only really need
40,000 people to survive a

1613
01:35:56,550 --> 01:35:59,820
nuclear holocaust on Earth to
create the future, the humans of

1614
01:35:59,820 --> 01:36:03,720
the future. This is the kind of
the idea This isn't.

1615
01:36:03,780 --> 01:36:06,840
John C Dvorak: I don't want to
go on No, please yours. But you

1616
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:14,100
have the history. Let's take.
Let's take these guys, and try

1617
01:36:14,100 --> 01:36:18,510
to summarize what their issues
are. They're very uncomfortable

1618
01:36:18,540 --> 01:36:23,250
around a women. Yep. And this
nervous patter, this type of

1619
01:36:23,700 --> 01:36:27,390
speak, chicks dig or develop
chicks don't dig that,

1620
01:36:27,450 --> 01:36:28,230
Adam Curry: by the way.

1621
01:36:29,490 --> 01:36:32,430
John C Dvorak: I would hope not.
I mean, there are chicks like

1622
01:36:32,430 --> 01:36:35,490
this too. But generally
speaking, they don't find each

1623
01:36:35,490 --> 01:36:41,130
other. So I'm guessing there's a
contingency of suit that sounds

1624
01:36:41,130 --> 01:36:45,240
like it's a pattern of the
pattern of speech is a pattern

1625
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:53,700
of a frustrated male? Possibly,
yes. Yes. And, and this is, this

1626
01:36:53,700 --> 01:36:58,500
is, this is bad. We don't need
males like this

1627
01:36:58,530 --> 01:37:01,440
Adam Curry: with a billionaire
with a billion dollars from

1628
01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:02,790
venture capital. That's,

1629
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:04,890
John C Dvorak: and this reason
why I'm gonna summarize, and

1630
01:37:05,670 --> 01:37:10,980
this is why prostitution should
be legalized in California.

1631
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,000
Unknown: I continue to back to
what I was saying initially,

1632
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:19,350
which is that a complete
explanatory picture of why these

1633
01:37:19,470 --> 01:37:24,060
companies like opening it, and
so on, are explicitly trying to

1634
01:37:24,060 --> 01:37:27,300
build artificial general
intelligence is because they see

1635
01:37:27,510 --> 01:37:33,720
AGI as the shortest as the, the
shortest route from where we are

1636
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:37,590
right now, to a techno utopian
world, in which we completely

1637
01:37:37,590 --> 01:37:42,000
reengineer humanity, we colonize
space. And ultimately, we, you

1638
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,720
know, we subjugate nature, we
exploit the vast resources of

1639
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:50,130
the cosmos, which people in the
test group movement refer to as

1640
01:37:50,130 --> 01:37:53,370
our cosmic endowment of neg
entropy or negative entropy and

1641
01:37:53,370 --> 01:37:57,030
usable, usable energy. Yeah,
again, through all of these

1642
01:37:57,150 --> 01:38:02,790
movements and ideas of the past,
which were really toxic, and

1643
01:38:02,790 --> 01:38:05,370
cause tremendous harm, and
pretty much everybody

1644
01:38:05,370 --> 01:38:08,490
acknowledges that now. And then
there's the sense that well,

1645
01:38:08,490 --> 01:38:12,900
we've moved on, but we haven't,
you know, eugenics is still

1646
01:38:12,930 --> 01:38:17,220
alive and well in the test, crow
movement. And this notion of

1647
01:38:17,220 --> 01:38:20,370
manifest destiny, that
continues, you know, the

1648
01:38:20,370 --> 01:38:25,080
colonial mindset that persists
as well in this notion that we

1649
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:29,250
need to go out colonize space.
And, you know, people say, Well,

1650
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:31,830
you know, that there, we're
gonna go to exoplanets where

1651
01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:35,100
there, there aren't life forms.
And so it's fundamentally

1652
01:38:35,100 --> 01:38:35,820
different. Alright,

1653
01:38:35,850 --> 01:38:39,240
Adam Curry: so now, here's my
summary. And I've one more clip

1654
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:44,670
and a shorty. These, these are
people who have no faith, which

1655
01:38:44,670 --> 01:38:46,830
is okay, you don't have you
don't have to believe in Jesus

1656
01:38:46,830 --> 01:38:50,340
or God or anything like that, or
Allah, whatever you want. And

1657
01:38:50,340 --> 01:38:53,700
they are desperate, because
everybody needs something you

1658
01:38:53,700 --> 01:38:58,140
can believe in climate change,
whatever your religion is, and

1659
01:38:58,140 --> 01:39:02,670
they're so desperate that they
want to create a digital God.

1660
01:39:03,570 --> 01:39:06,960
The end, it's either Well,
here's the explanation, in fact,

1661
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:07,170
what

1662
01:39:07,170 --> 01:39:11,940
Unknown: are the people who are
working on AGI particularly over

1663
01:39:11,940 --> 01:39:15,090
the past over the past two
decades, so people who've been

1664
01:39:15,090 --> 01:39:19,650
there from the beginning, they
would argue that it's not just

1665
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:24,600
about this sort of grand moral
aim of maximizing value within

1666
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:28,260
the accessible universe. But
there is a self interested

1667
01:39:28,290 --> 01:39:31,200
reason for building artificial
general intelligence as soon as

1668
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:37,650
possible. If we build it and in
a way that is controllable. And,

1669
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:43,860
and it's, its creation occurs
within our lifetimes, then we

1670
01:39:43,860 --> 01:39:48,000
live forever. Maybe there are
ways to upload our minds that

1671
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,700
don't involve AGI that's
possible as well maybe you know,

1672
01:39:50,700 --> 01:39:52,410
there are different routes maybe
we develop advanced

1673
01:39:52,410 --> 01:39:55,110
nanotechnology we inject some
nanobots into our bloodstream,

1674
01:39:55,410 --> 01:39:58,650
it crosses the blood brain
barrier, and it scans the

1675
01:39:58,650 --> 01:40:01,590
microstructure our brain and
tree Is that via Wi Fi,

1676
01:40:01,620 --> 01:40:05,340
basically to a computer. So
that's a possibility. John,

1677
01:40:05,340 --> 01:40:07,140
Adam Curry: I think that these
people are written, you know, we

1678
01:40:07,140 --> 01:40:10,260
had the cryogenics movement,
these guys, they're afraid to

1679
01:40:10,260 --> 01:40:13,230
die, they're afraid of their own
mortality. And the,

1680
01:40:13,650 --> 01:40:16,410
John C Dvorak: if you're gonna
if you're a virgin, but

1681
01:40:16,410 --> 01:40:20,670
Unknown: also maybe we just
created this artificial God, you

1682
01:40:20,670 --> 01:40:23,760
know, the superhumanly, in
quote, unquote, intelligent

1683
01:40:24,060 --> 01:40:27,510
system. And since everything is
an engineering problem,

1684
01:40:28,110 --> 01:40:31,170
according to these individuals,
that we just delegated this task

1685
01:40:31,620 --> 01:40:38,160
of curing the problem of aging.
And then, you know, maybe about

1686
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:42,150
five or 10 seconds after we say,
could you cure aging, the super

1687
01:40:42,150 --> 01:40:45,990
intelligent machine goes, Okay,
I figured out how, here's how

1688
01:40:46,020 --> 01:40:50,190
I'll develop the therapies right
away. So if we get AGI within

1689
01:40:50,190 --> 01:40:53,100
our lifetime, this is what they
think, then we get to live

1690
01:40:53,100 --> 01:40:57,060
forever. So there's a huge
reason to Yes, you want to, you

1691
01:40:57,060 --> 01:41:01,950
want to, you know, be cautious,
and try to safeguard against the

1692
01:41:01,950 --> 01:41:07,020
AGI, causing an existential
catastrophe. But also, you don't

1693
01:41:07,020 --> 01:41:11,130
want to just like, you know, put
the brakes on, indefinitely. I

1694
01:41:11,130 --> 01:41:13,470
mean, there's a small group of
Doomers, who wants to do that,

1695
01:41:13,470 --> 01:41:17,790
but most people in this field
would reject that position

1696
01:41:17,790 --> 01:41:19,230
because they want to live
forever.

1697
01:41:19,770 --> 01:41:23,850
Adam Curry: And this is, this is
what I heard this and like, oh,

1698
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:28,170
light bulbs are going off. So
it's a bunch of soy boys growing

1699
01:41:28,170 --> 01:41:32,490
up with no faith in their life.
They're, of course, most humans

1700
01:41:32,490 --> 01:41:36,450
are afraid of death. The Hobbit
is Ananda was like, I'm gonna

1701
01:41:36,450 --> 01:41:39,390
die. I'm afraid of that. What am
I going to do? And their

1702
01:41:39,390 --> 01:41:44,010
solution is, well, I'll create a
digital God through AGI the big

1703
01:41:44,010 --> 01:41:48,330
promise which none of these
demos which I'm seeing, which do

1704
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:54,630
rap songs, and people with six
fingers and flowery language as

1705
01:41:54,630 --> 01:41:59,430
demos. There's no AGI anywhere,
but we want a digital God and

1706
01:41:59,430 --> 01:42:00,870
who's leading that pack.

1707
01:42:00,900 --> 01:42:04,980
Unknown: All of the people have
been uploading articles, best

1708
01:42:04,980 --> 01:42:11,760
quotes from different articles,
videos, to Acts, all that can be

1709
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:15,630
trained on and effectively now
you have this remarkable

1710
01:42:15,660 --> 01:42:19,530
repository and I wonder what you
how you think about that again,

1711
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,370
and how you think the creative
community and those who were the

1712
01:42:23,370 --> 01:42:26,160
original IP owner should think
about that.

1713
01:42:29,310 --> 01:42:31,470
I don't know except to say that
the by the time these lawsuits

1714
01:42:31,470 --> 01:42:33,390
have decided we'll have digital
God so

1715
01:42:34,740 --> 01:42:37,320
Adam Curry: digital got at that
point. There it is you Genesis

1716
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:41,040
number one. Elon Musk. Oh, don't
we'll have a digital God. He's

1717
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:45,060
all in on this. He's got the
neural link for your brain. Oh,

1718
01:42:45,060 --> 01:42:48,210
yeah. I'm gonna help peoples who
are blind him and help him see

1719
01:42:48,300 --> 01:42:52,290
oh, crap. He's got the most.
He's

1720
01:42:52,290 --> 01:42:55,860
John C Dvorak: like, he reminds
me of Trump. big talker.

1721
01:42:56,310 --> 01:42:59,280
Adam Curry: Right. But the but
the belief, and then all

1722
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:03,660
everyone who's who's going oh,
no, this.

1723
01:43:04,620 --> 01:43:06,810
John C Dvorak: This is you.
You're assuming that he's

1724
01:43:06,810 --> 01:43:07,620
sincere?

1725
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,050
Adam Curry: Yes, I am. I think
he's very sincere.

1726
01:43:10,110 --> 01:43:14,100
John C Dvorak: I don't I think
he's, I'm completely oblivious.

1727
01:43:15,480 --> 01:43:21,090
I have no, no confidence in his
sincerity. I think he's full of

1728
01:43:21,090 --> 01:43:23,310
shit, and he does it on purpose.
Okay,

1729
01:43:23,340 --> 01:43:26,310
Adam Curry: then would you let
me ask you this? Do you think

1730
01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:32,880
that what he has done for the
Evie? Industry is positive for

1731
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:38,850
the world? By creating electric
vehicles and a tire movement of

1732
01:43:38,910 --> 01:43:41,700
things that blow up in your
garage, or oil,

1733
01:43:41,700 --> 01:43:43,470
John C Dvorak: what you're going
to you're asking me this

1734
01:43:43,470 --> 01:43:47,280
question, because he is he had
we had a clip on the show

1735
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:50,550
already, where he says he's done
more for the environmental

1736
01:43:50,550 --> 01:43:55,230
movement than any single person
by developing this. No, I think

1737
01:43:55,230 --> 01:43:58,230
he's totally insincere about
that. What do you need to do it?

1738
01:43:58,230 --> 01:44:01,440
He did it for the money. He saw
it he all he does is he sees

1739
01:44:01,440 --> 01:44:03,690
government money. It's all
government money and subsidies

1740
01:44:03,690 --> 01:44:06,390
that made that company what it
is, yeah. And he also knows how

1741
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:09,540
to exploit personality. So he
had a bunch of people, you know,

1742
01:44:09,540 --> 01:44:11,700
there went from Arnold
Schwarzenegger to everybody

1743
01:44:11,700 --> 01:44:14,250
else, when he rolled out the
first little Tesla, a little

1744
01:44:14,250 --> 01:44:17,970
sports car that was, you know,
mediocre. And it was it was

1745
01:44:17,970 --> 01:44:23,010
actually, you know, just a what
is a lotus with a electric

1746
01:44:23,010 --> 01:44:28,470
engine. And he's a, he's a PT
Barnum, as far as I'm concerned,

1747
01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:30,210
as I don't see anything other
than that.

1748
01:44:31,260 --> 01:44:33,900
Adam Curry: Well, there's a lot
of people a lot of money flowing

1749
01:44:33,900 --> 01:44:38,010
towards all of his grand ideas,
and the space exploration. We're

1750
01:44:38,010 --> 01:44:39,810
going to colonize Mars. It's all

1751
01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:42,630
John C Dvorak: moved there. He
wants to be the first person on

1752
01:44:42,630 --> 01:44:45,870
Mars. He'll die there. So
remember that? Yes.

1753
01:44:45,900 --> 01:44:48,090
Adam Curry: I'll just take him
at his word. I think he's one of

1754
01:44:48,090 --> 01:44:52,620
these. I think he's, he's weird.
I think he is a eugenicist. He

1755
01:44:52,620 --> 01:44:55,890
wants perfect people. He wants
everyone to be perfect. I think

1756
01:44:55,890 --> 01:44:59,160
he's definitely afraid of dying.
Yeah, I think he's one of them.

1757
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:00,870
I really do.

1758
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,080
John C Dvorak: And okay. And I
mean, I think it's, I think it's

1759
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:08,700
a reasonable position. Neither
one of us have sat down at

1760
01:45:08,700 --> 01:45:13,500
dinner with him, so we don't
know him. And so we have to

1761
01:45:13,500 --> 01:45:18,120
speculate. Yes. And that's as
far as we can go with it. And

1762
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:22,140
you know, people have to note
that that's the situation just a

1763
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:27,330
you speculating about one thing
I'm, I have the positive

1764
01:45:27,330 --> 01:45:31,230
attitude. I've I have the
Christian attitude. And you you

1765
01:45:31,230 --> 01:45:35,970
have the satanic attitude. Yes.
No damning the poor man who

1766
01:45:35,970 --> 01:45:38,340
don't even know Oh,

1767
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:40,440
Adam Curry: no, I have the
Christian attitude because he is

1768
01:45:40,440 --> 01:45:44,790
the Antichrist. Do not do not
worship false idols. I can't

1769
01:45:44,790 --> 01:45:47,010
believe you said that. It was
funny though. I can't believe

1770
01:45:47,010 --> 01:45:47,550
you said that.

1771
01:45:48,660 --> 01:45:50,400
John C Dvorak: Quote, The
communist it's funny.

1772
01:45:53,340 --> 01:45:57,990
Adam Curry: There's this whole
thread of from Image Image

1773
01:45:57,990 --> 01:46:06,870
shear. He was the guy who was he
was the CEO of open AI for about

1774
01:46:07,110 --> 01:46:12,810
Silk right, that guy well of
ours. Yeah. And so he he's on x,

1775
01:46:12,810 --> 01:46:16,110
of course, then he starts off by
saying something completely

1776
01:46:16,110 --> 01:46:20,310
insane. I mean, he was talking
about Hold on a second. I have

1777
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:27,300
it here. He posts this pose this
these guys are also full on

1778
01:46:27,330 --> 01:46:32,070
Marxists. I'm not against
inheritance. For children with

1779
01:46:32,070 --> 01:46:35,460
wealthy parents, I'm in favor of
inheritance for every child that

1780
01:46:35,460 --> 01:46:38,190
might take spreading out, say
half the inheritance money each

1781
01:46:38,190 --> 01:46:42,390
year more equitably. Which seems
fine. If the United States took

1782
01:46:42,390 --> 01:46:45,750
50% of the total inheritance and
spread it out evenly among all

1783
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:50,070
people turning say 25 That will
be $61,000 for each person, far

1784
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:55,170
more equitable start at life for
everyone. Say these guys are

1785
01:46:55,170 --> 01:46:56,940
insane. That's

1786
01:46:56,940 --> 01:47:00,330
John C Dvorak: it. That's pure
distribution, redistribution of

1787
01:47:00,330 --> 01:47:04,470
wealth. Marx's theory. Yes.
Yeah. I don't know how these

1788
01:47:04,470 --> 01:47:07,470
guys all of a sudden, this whole
group became communists,

1789
01:47:07,860 --> 01:47:09,870
especially with all the money
that they got using the

1790
01:47:09,870 --> 01:47:13,380
capitalist system. Well, it's
guilt somebody asked me about,

1791
01:47:13,380 --> 01:47:16,530
you know, a lot of these guys
are guilty there might not do

1792
01:47:16,530 --> 01:47:19,860
enough to become billionaires.
They didn't do jack, they got

1793
01:47:19,860 --> 01:47:22,320
lucky. They're in the right
place at the right time. They're

1794
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:24,990
Adam Curry: all micro dosing
hallucinogenics. And they're

1795
01:47:24,990 --> 01:47:29,760
doing that they think that's a
problem that has something

1796
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:34,920
John C Dvorak: to do with it. So
but let's change subjects and go

1797
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:38,460
to a three by three no about
now. It's done by a three by

1798
01:47:38,460 --> 01:47:46,140
three. By JC comparing stories
from ABC, CBS and NBC.

1799
01:47:47,700 --> 01:47:50,940
Adam Curry: The never ending. JC
brings them all together the

1800
01:47:50,940 --> 01:47:53,220
three networks, do they have the
same script? Are they in

1801
01:47:53,220 --> 01:47:55,350
collusion to the White House?
Give them all the information?

1802
01:47:55,350 --> 01:47:59,430
Is it the CIA we'll find out as
John gives us a three by three.

1803
01:47:59,910 --> 01:48:00,090
Well,

1804
01:48:00,090 --> 01:48:02,760
John C Dvorak: here we go. Now
this time, it's about Nimrod.

1805
01:48:04,350 --> 01:48:09,270
Nimrod, Haley, they all seem to
be preoccupied with her gaffe or

1806
01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:13,950
her inability to ask for discuss
something in this public forum,

1807
01:48:13,950 --> 01:48:17,730
who cares personally at the
civil as if she's as if this

1808
01:48:17,730 --> 01:48:19,950
makes any difference in the
world. But yeah, they gotta do a

1809
01:48:19,950 --> 01:48:23,460
big report on it. And here we go
again, with NBC and ABC with the

1810
01:48:23,460 --> 01:48:26,250
exact same report. Starting

1811
01:48:26,250 --> 01:48:27,570
Adam Curry: with ABC, NBC, NBC,

1812
01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:30,870
Unknown: Republican presidential
candidate Nikki Haley in cleanup

1813
01:48:30,870 --> 01:48:34,260
mode after leaving out slavery
as a root cause of the Civil

1814
01:48:34,260 --> 01:48:37,800
War. In New Hampshire on
Wednesday, what

1815
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:42,060
do you want me to say about
slavery? No. Question. Thank

1816
01:48:42,060 --> 01:48:44,850
you. Next question.

1817
01:48:45,030 --> 01:48:48,090
Hailey spent Thursday attempting
to explain what she meant.

1818
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:52,560
Adam Curry: Wow. Hold on a
second. They've now they've

1819
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:55,920
taken everything out in the
ghosts from the guy saying what

1820
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:58,770
can you say about civil wars? I
just heard you say something

1821
01:48:58,770 --> 01:49:01,620
about slavery. And she goes to
the next question. She talked

1822
01:49:01,620 --> 01:49:03,630
for five minutes. Yeah, we

1823
01:49:03,630 --> 01:49:05,550
John C Dvorak: played the real
clip. Last show

1824
01:49:05,580 --> 01:49:07,200
Unknown: on Wednesday. What do
you want

1825
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:08,880
me to say about slavery? No.

1826
01:49:10,350 --> 01:49:16,050
question. Next question. Hailey
spent Thursday attempting to

1827
01:49:16,050 --> 01:49:18,330
explain what she meant course

1828
01:49:18,330 --> 01:49:20,460
the Civil War was about slavery

1829
01:49:20,610 --> 01:49:24,180
and make clear the role slavery
played in American history. We

1830
01:49:24,180 --> 01:49:28,590
know the Civil War was about
slavery. But it was also more

1831
01:49:28,620 --> 01:49:33,450
than that. It was about the
freedoms of every individual.

1832
01:49:33,480 --> 01:49:36,930
Her opponents seized on the
comments President Joe Biden

1833
01:49:36,930 --> 01:49:41,220
responding quote, it was about
slavery, and GOP rival Ron

1834
01:49:41,220 --> 01:49:44,670
DeSantis, arguing she isn't
ready for the big stage.

1835
01:49:44,700 --> 01:49:48,420
The minute that she faces any
type of scrutiny, she tends to

1836
01:49:48,420 --> 01:49:49,020
cave

1837
01:49:49,110 --> 01:49:52,530
as governor of South Carolina,
Haley pushed for the removal of

1838
01:49:52,530 --> 01:49:56,250
a confederate flag on display on
the Capitol grounds after a mass

1839
01:49:56,250 --> 01:49:59,010
shooting at a black church in
Charleston, carried out by a

1840
01:49:59,010 --> 01:50:00,510
white supremacist. It's

1841
01:50:00,510 --> 01:50:03,240
time to move the flag from the
Capitol grounds.

1842
01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:06,120
She made that decision after
intense pressure by African

1843
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:09,900
American leaders in the wake of
the massacre. A firestorm comes

1844
01:50:09,900 --> 01:50:12,840
as Haley is gaining ground on
the clear front runner, former

1845
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:16,620
President Donald Trump. Trump
has routinely used divisive

1846
01:50:16,620 --> 01:50:19,770
rhetoric and recently made
racist comments about migrants

1847
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,060
and minority groups.

1848
01:50:21,180 --> 01:50:23,760
They're poisoning the blood of
our country. That's what they've

1849
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:25,590
done. But Trump's controversial

1850
01:50:25,590 --> 01:50:29,640
words have done little to change
the trajectory of the race. And

1851
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:32,250
these comments come at a make or
break moment for the Haley

1852
01:50:32,250 --> 01:50:35,310
campaign with polls showing
Donald Trump leading by more

1853
01:50:35,310 --> 01:50:39,060
than double digits and just 18
days to go before Iowa and less

1854
01:50:39,060 --> 01:50:43,350
than 30 days before New
Hampshire. Wow.

1855
01:50:44,130 --> 01:50:47,340
John C Dvorak: That's great.
Yeah, a bunch of bullcrap. Okay.

1856
01:50:47,340 --> 01:50:50,550
Well, let's go next very similar
report almost the exact same

1857
01:50:50,550 --> 01:50:53,880
opening almost the exact same
opening on ABC

1858
01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:56,910
Unknown: tonight, Republican
presidential hopeful Nikki Haley

1859
01:50:56,910 --> 01:51:00,750
under fire for failing to
identify slavery as the cause of

1860
01:51:00,750 --> 01:51:03,450
the Civil War at a New Hampshire
town hall.

1861
01:51:03,480 --> 01:51:10,980
What was the cause of the United
States Civil War? Well, don't

1862
01:51:10,980 --> 01:51:13,620
come with an easy question. I
mean, I think the cause of the

1863
01:51:13,620 --> 01:51:16,890
Civil War was basically how
government was going to run the

1864
01:51:16,890 --> 01:51:19,680
freedoms and what people could
and couldn't do. It's

1865
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:22,590
astonishing to me that you
answer that question without

1866
01:51:22,590 --> 01:51:23,820
mentioning the word slavery.

1867
01:51:25,530 --> 01:51:28,260
What do you want me to say about
slavery? Today, the

1868
01:51:28,260 --> 01:51:31,770
former South Carolina governor
who removed the Confederate flag

1869
01:51:31,770 --> 01:51:34,860
from the state capitol after
nine black churchgoers were

1870
01:51:34,860 --> 01:51:38,340
killed in a mass shooting,
trying to clarify,

1871
01:51:38,430 --> 01:51:41,550
of course, the Civil War was
about slavery.

1872
01:51:41,730 --> 01:51:45,570
But the backlash was immediate.
President Biden responding it

1873
01:51:45,570 --> 01:51:48,990
was about slavery. Florida
Governor Ron DeSantis, who has

1874
01:51:48,990 --> 01:51:52,500
also faced fierce criticism for
suggesting African Americans

1875
01:51:52,500 --> 01:51:53,910
benefited from you could almost

1876
01:51:53,910 --> 01:51:56,160
Adam Curry: run those that that
bit right there. You could

1877
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,560
almost run them together. They
would say the same thing at the

1878
01:51:58,560 --> 01:51:59,310
same time.

1879
01:51:59,460 --> 01:52:00,510
John C Dvorak: I know it's
amazing

1880
01:52:00,540 --> 01:52:03,660
Unknown: slavery, pouncing on
Haley's remarks

1881
01:52:03,690 --> 01:52:08,700
not that difficult to identify
and acknowledge the role slavery

1882
01:52:08,700 --> 01:52:12,120
play in the Civil War. And yet
that seemed to be something that

1883
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:14,820
was really difficult. I don't
even know what she was saying.

1884
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,930
Haley's GOP rivals quick to
attack as she gains ground in

1885
01:52:18,930 --> 01:52:22,320
polls in the critical primary
state of New Hampshire. Former

1886
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,930
New Jersey Governor Chris
Christie launching a new seven

1887
01:52:24,930 --> 01:52:27,780
figure ad campaign in the
Granite State as he trails

1888
01:52:27,780 --> 01:52:32,250
behind saying it's he not Haley
who can beat Trump. Some

1889
01:52:32,250 --> 01:52:34,620
people say I should drop out of
this race really.

1890
01:52:35,460 --> 01:52:37,770
I'm the only one saying Donald
Trump is a liar.

1891
01:52:38,550 --> 01:52:41,910
With just 18 days until the
first votes are cast in Iowa.

1892
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:44,700
Former President Trump is still
the clear front runner for the

1893
01:52:44,700 --> 01:52:47,730
Republican nomination. Tonight.
President Biden's campaign is

1894
01:52:47,730 --> 01:52:51,660
attacking the entire GOP field,
accusing them of pandering to

1895
01:52:51,660 --> 01:52:54,270
the most extreme fringe of their
base.

1896
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:58,920
Adam Curry: Wow. They brought
Krisztian who says Trump's a

1897
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,320
liar except when he says he's
going to be a dictator on day

1898
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:05,310
Oh, for day one. I'm using your
material here.

1899
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:08,100
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, that's
exactly what I say. Is he a

1900
01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:10,560
liar? Isn't he if he says you're
gonna be a dictator? Is he a

1901
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:15,000
liar? Yep. Yeah, these guys are
bullshit. Okay, so we go to CBS,

1902
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:19,830
which was again, a little more
ambles the story a little better

1903
01:53:19,830 --> 01:53:24,210
than everybody else I have to
say doing these now. Thanks to

1904
01:53:24,210 --> 01:53:28,980
Steve, I have come to the
conclusion that of all the three

1905
01:53:28,980 --> 01:53:31,470
networks CBS has the best
discount.

1906
01:53:31,470 --> 01:53:33,540
Unknown: Good Evening, Major
Good evening to you trying to

1907
01:53:33,540 --> 01:53:36,450
spring it up, said Nikki Haley
has been fighting for months to

1908
01:53:36,450 --> 01:53:40,860
win the spotlight. But tonight,
she's beneath a glaring one. And

1909
01:53:40,860 --> 01:53:45,120
taking the heat. Nikki Haley,
who's been surging in the polls

1910
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:48,900
in New Hampshire now faces a
rising wave of criticism over

1911
01:53:48,900 --> 01:53:51,480
this response to a question at a
town hall event.

1912
01:53:51,780 --> 01:53:54,990
What was the cause of the United
States Civil War?

1913
01:53:55,650 --> 01:53:59,220
I mean, I think the cause of the
Civil War was how government was

1914
01:53:59,220 --> 01:54:02,370
going to run the freedoms and
what people could and couldn't

1915
01:54:02,370 --> 01:54:02,700
do.

1916
01:54:02,730 --> 01:54:05,880
Adam Curry: Wow. They cut her
some slack on that one. They cut

1917
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:09,870
out the whole why'd you ask me
easy one. That's interesting.

1918
01:54:09,900 --> 01:54:13,290
Unknown: When asked. Yeah, that
was a plus. slavery's Haley

1919
01:54:13,290 --> 01:54:17,040
responded. What do you want me
to say about slavery? The former

1920
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:20,190
South Carolina governor was
blasted by both parties.

1921
01:54:20,370 --> 01:54:24,810
President Biden posted it was
about slavery. And Haley drew

1922
01:54:24,810 --> 01:54:28,290
similar criticisms from her GOP
opponents Donald Trump and Ron

1923
01:54:28,290 --> 01:54:29,130
DeSantis.

1924
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:33,060
This is not a candidate that's
ready for primetime on the

1925
01:54:33,060 --> 01:54:34,110
radio today.

1926
01:54:34,380 --> 01:54:38,160
I mean, of course the Civil War
was about slavery.

1927
01:54:38,220 --> 01:54:42,120
And back on the stump Haley
tried to clear up her answer. We

1928
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:42,420
know

1929
01:54:42,420 --> 01:54:47,580
that that's unquestioned always
the case we know the Civil

1930
01:54:48,450 --> 01:54:51,780
War all year you're to
equivocate. Let's not

1931
01:54:51,780 --> 01:54:57,330
forget what came out of that,
which is government's role,

1932
01:54:58,230 --> 01:54:59,730
individual liberties.

1933
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,120
She criticized the voter who'd
asked the original question as a

1934
01:55:03,180 --> 01:55:04,890
plant of the Democrats.

1935
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:09,420
The fact that Nikki Haley has
had such a stumble on an easy

1936
01:55:09,420 --> 01:55:14,010
question, you know, is dismaying
to those who would like to see

1937
01:55:14,010 --> 01:55:17,280
her continue to climb in the
polls. Haley

1938
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:20,520
today touted her decision to
remove the Confederate flag from

1939
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:24,150
South Carolina's capital in
2015. After the mass shooting at

1940
01:55:24,150 --> 01:55:27,810
an historically black church in
Charleston, her critics today

1941
01:55:27,810 --> 01:55:31,410
resurface quotes Haley gave in
2010, in which she defended the

1942
01:55:31,410 --> 01:55:35,700
flag as a symbol of heritage.
This is not something that is

1943
01:55:35,700 --> 01:55:36,240
racist.

1944
01:55:36,570 --> 01:55:40,770
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, so
she's so dumb that she's anxious

1945
01:55:40,770 --> 01:55:44,370
in bed but I took the
Confederate flag down alienating

1946
01:55:44,430 --> 01:55:45,390
a lot of people.

1947
01:55:48,930 --> 01:55:50,970
John C Dvorak: But she's so dumb
is the is the key. Well, the

1948
01:55:50,970 --> 01:55:52,200
operative word. This

1949
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:58,290
Adam Curry: reminds me of
something. The dean scream This

1950
01:55:58,290 --> 01:56:01,200
is Haley's comment. Haley's

1951
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:05,220
John C Dvorak: comment. Oh, I
get it Haley's comment.

1952
01:56:05,250 --> 01:56:06,720
Adam Curry: Do you mind if I
just try something here for a

1953
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:10,170
second? Hold on? I'm gonna try
something with these the ABC and

1954
01:56:10,170 --> 01:56:11,130
NBC home.

1955
01:56:11,610 --> 01:56:12,990
Unknown: Want me to say about
slavery.

1956
01:56:13,170 --> 01:56:16,170
Today, the former South Carolina
governor who removed the

1957
01:56:16,170 --> 01:56:19,470
Confederate flag from the state
capitol after nine black

1958
01:56:19,470 --> 01:56:22,980
churchgoers were killed in a
mass shooting, trying to

1959
01:56:22,980 --> 01:56:23,880
clarify,

1960
01:56:23,940 --> 01:56:27,270
of course the Civil War was
about slavery here.

1961
01:56:27,330 --> 01:56:31,170
But the backlash was immediate
President Biden responding Okay,

1962
01:56:31,170 --> 01:56:32,370
President Biden, let's

1963
01:56:32,370 --> 01:56:34,320
Adam Curry: see. How about this
one

1964
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:37,260
Unknown: course the Civil War
was about slavery

1965
01:56:37,380 --> 01:56:40,080
and make clear the role of
slavery played in American

1966
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:41,310
history. We know

1967
01:56:41,310 --> 01:56:46,470
that. But it was also more than
that. It was about the freedom

1968
01:56:46,740 --> 01:56:48,930
in the comments. President job.
Okay.

1969
01:56:50,250 --> 01:56:51,270
John C Dvorak: Know what you're
up to. I'm

1970
01:56:51,270 --> 01:56:52,350
Adam Curry: gonna play him at
the same time.

1971
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:56,640
Unknown: It was about slavery
for

1972
01:56:59,700 --> 01:57:03,450
Bredesen protesting state
admitted that she faces pretty

1973
01:57:03,450 --> 01:57:06,390
Adam Curry: close. Yeah, it's
getting there. Pretty close.

1974
01:57:06,660 --> 01:57:11,010
Pretty close. Wow, Haley's
comment. She's done toasts.

1975
01:57:11,070 --> 01:57:15,480
Haley's comment if you liked
that, yeah. Dean scream and

1976
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:20,550
Haley's comments. What a dope.
And she's and then Oh, but I

1977
01:57:20,550 --> 01:57:22,980
removed the Confederate flag.
Dope, dope, dope.

1978
01:57:24,660 --> 01:57:26,100
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Michi
knuckles under?

1979
01:57:26,190 --> 01:57:33,090
Adam Curry: Yeah. She She's
knuckles under. I want to feel

1980
01:57:33,090 --> 01:57:35,820
bad for her, but it's hard.
While she's,

1981
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:40,050
John C Dvorak: she's unpleasant.
And she's a warmonger. We know

1982
01:57:40,050 --> 01:57:44,400
that from her your performance
at the various debates. She so

1983
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:51,570
we don't need another. She's
basically a Democrat that she

1984
01:57:51,570 --> 01:57:54,480
needed we even when she was
working as she worked for Trump

1985
01:57:55,470 --> 01:58:00,540
as the UN ambassador, and when
she quit that job that she

1986
01:58:00,540 --> 01:58:03,660
turned on him like everybody
else. Trump picks all these

1987
01:58:03,660 --> 01:58:08,130
people that stab him in the back
after he after they leave. You

1988
01:58:08,130 --> 01:58:11,100
know if you don't like working
for the guy quit and just shut

1989
01:58:11,100 --> 01:58:15,060
up. You know, I mean, I don't
know what did I just don't get I

1990
01:58:15,060 --> 01:58:19,830
don't get the whole have to stab
Trump in the back thing without

1991
01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:25,530
real any real expert. Well, he's
a he's a bad guy. He's a he's a

1992
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:30,600
crook. There's never he's an
insurrectionists it the whole

1993
01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:34,350
thing baffles me he might not be
likable as a boss

1994
01:58:36,180 --> 01:58:41,160
Adam Curry: let's let's move to
Israel Hamas because you wrote

1995
01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:45,090
something in the newsletter,
which I thought was really good.

1996
01:58:45,870 --> 01:58:48,390
Wait a minute, let me say that
like a Professor Scott Galloway,

1997
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,150
I was really smart what you
wrote so smart. You're saying

1998
01:58:51,150 --> 01:58:54,390
John C Dvorak: before we play
before you do that I have a

1999
01:58:54,390 --> 01:58:55,740
Scott Galloway clip I want to

2000
01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:58,980
Adam Curry: Oh, no, I don't even
have one.

2001
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:02,070
John C Dvorak: I don't know that
he I don't know that this hasn't

2002
01:59:02,070 --> 01:59:05,220
been rigged. This was sent to me
by one of our top men,

2003
01:59:05,490 --> 01:59:11,790
producers. Top men. And I don't
know if this was rigged, if it

2004
01:59:11,790 --> 01:59:15,690
was put together by AI or
whatever, but I believe it to be

2005
01:59:15,690 --> 01:59:19,410
true and this guy, you know, I
never had much to think about

2006
01:59:19,410 --> 01:59:21,840
him until you start playing
these clips. But when Yeah, I

2007
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:27,180
hear this condescending. A whole
say the following thing. It

2008
01:59:27,180 --> 01:59:28,560
really is galling.

2009
01:59:28,590 --> 01:59:31,020
Unknown: So the reason I have an
iPhone, I think we all have

2010
01:59:31,020 --> 01:59:33,330
iPhones because we want to
communicate our worth as a mate.

2011
01:59:33,510 --> 01:59:35,250
If you have an Android phone,
you're kind of signaling to the

2012
01:59:35,250 --> 01:59:37,200
rest of the world that life
hasn't panned out the way you'd

2013
01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:40,410
hoped that if you had been just
a little bit more successful.

2014
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,890
You'd have an iOS right,
seriously. Yeah,

2015
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:45,810
Adam Curry: he said that. I've
heard it. I remember this

2016
01:59:45,810 --> 01:59:48,000
episode. That's exactly what he
says.

2017
01:59:50,970 --> 01:59:52,260
John C Dvorak: That's
unbelievable.

2018
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:58,140
Adam Curry: No, no, it was not.
Yeah, it's the award winning

2019
01:59:58,140 --> 02:00:04,050
tech podcast. John. You should
No better. So in the newsletter,

2020
02:00:05,130 --> 02:00:11,790
I really liked this view had a
conclusion about the so called

2021
02:00:12,270 --> 02:00:17,820
Houthi militia attacks in the
Red Sea. Yeah. Would you like

2022
02:00:17,820 --> 02:00:18,450
care to

2023
02:00:18,570 --> 02:00:21,690
John C Dvorak: share? Yeah.
Yeah, this was some this has

2024
02:00:21,690 --> 02:00:24,870
been expressed on some various
obscure newsletters and other

2025
02:00:24,870 --> 02:00:28,320
people have kind of suggested
it. I had added a couple of my

2026
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:32,010
own thoughts to it. Because it's
always been baffling to me why

2027
02:00:32,010 --> 02:00:34,500
we haven't done anything about
these Houthi attacks, because we

2028
02:00:34,500 --> 02:00:37,470
know we have satellites in the
air. It's not cloud cover,

2029
02:00:37,470 --> 02:00:39,840
there's no, we know exactly
where they're coming from. All

2030
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:42,930
we need to do is send an F 16,
over there blow up these two or

2031
02:00:42,930 --> 02:00:45,900
three sites. There's nothing we
have haven't done. We have

2032
02:00:45,900 --> 02:00:49,140
cruise missiles that could do
it. It's not a big deal, but we

2033
02:00:49,140 --> 02:00:52,140
don't. And so it turns out, at
least according to the

2034
02:00:52,140 --> 02:00:59,220
scuttlebutt that Israel has been
trying to pressure Egypt into

2035
02:00:59,220 --> 02:01:03,330
taking Palestinian refugees just
take them. Nobody wants to take

2036
02:01:03,330 --> 02:01:06,030
these people, they don't know
why they're so offensive, but

2037
02:01:06,030 --> 02:01:09,180
nobody, no Arab nations want to
take them and Israel has been

2038
02:01:09,180 --> 02:01:14,430
trying to put the screws to to
Egypt to get get him take him

2039
02:01:14,430 --> 02:01:17,550
take him take him. So since
they're not taking them yet,

2040
02:01:18,060 --> 02:01:22,680
Israel made a deal that we're
going to cut off traffic through

2041
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:27,390
the Suez Canal, which is going
to cause Egypt six is 6 billion,

2042
02:01:27,390 --> 02:01:30,300
I'd have to do a little research
to get these numbers, they cost

2043
02:01:30,300 --> 02:01:34,260
about $300,000 to get a ship
through if you have a big ship

2044
02:01:34,470 --> 02:01:38,010
is going to cost you $300,000 to
go to through the canal, you'll

2045
02:01:38,010 --> 02:01:41,730
save about a million in fuel
going the other way around this,

2046
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:47,280
you know, around Africa. So and
as it turns out to be about 6

2047
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:52,620
billion total or more to the
bottom line of Egypt's GDP. So

2048
02:01:52,770 --> 02:01:56,070
delegates so the idea is the
Americans are just letting these

2049
02:01:56,070 --> 02:01:59,550
things these shots come over.
That's why we're not firing back

2050
02:01:59,550 --> 02:02:02,370
or doing anything about it, even
though we don't mind killing

2051
02:02:02,370 --> 02:02:05,190
Iraqis, or we don't mind
killing, you know, being in

2052
02:02:05,190 --> 02:02:08,850
Syria with five bases. None of
that bothers us. But there's all

2053
02:02:08,850 --> 02:02:12,570
we can't do anything this time.
Yeah, whatever theory that I'm

2054
02:02:12,570 --> 02:02:15,450
out oh, we can't I don't know
why we can't but we can't. So

2055
02:02:15,450 --> 02:02:18,720
that explains it. We're saying
we're in league with Israel

2056
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:22,470
saying okay, we're gonna let
these these missiles keep coming

2057
02:02:22,470 --> 02:02:24,900
in. We'll shoot the ones that
are aiming at your shoot them

2058
02:02:24,900 --> 02:02:28,620
down. It's good practice for us,
but we're going to not do

2059
02:02:28,620 --> 02:02:32,550
anything about it until it's a
deal made. And Egypt says okay,

2060
02:02:32,550 --> 02:02:35,550
we'll take the Palestinians let
the chips go through willya

2061
02:02:37,110 --> 02:02:43,110
Adam Curry: so I have found this
video of the Houthi militias,

2062
02:02:43,110 --> 02:02:48,420
which I still steer favorites
still doesn't look real to me.

2063
02:02:48,930 --> 02:02:53,250
And it's purely based upon how
this helicopter lands. I mean,

2064
02:02:53,460 --> 02:02:56,460
all of it looks like it's shot
to look like video game footage

2065
02:02:56,460 --> 02:03:00,750
regardless. That's just a new
thing. You know, with with a

2066
02:03:00,750 --> 02:03:03,900
camera on the on the on the
tailboom of the helicopters,

2067
02:03:03,900 --> 02:03:08,340
it's landing with the GoPros
mounted on it's all first person

2068
02:03:08,340 --> 02:03:13,170
you see the guns it's like
there's this shot of, of one of

2069
02:03:13,170 --> 02:03:17,010
these militias down in the hold
and it's completely empty, by

2070
02:03:17,010 --> 02:03:20,340
the way, and he's holding up as
get Gun Talk on a walkie talkie.

2071
02:03:20,340 --> 02:03:24,810
It looks just like Call of Duty.
I mean, even the even the

2072
02:03:24,810 --> 02:03:28,260
motions are kind of Herky jerky,
so could be a combination of it.

2073
02:03:28,530 --> 02:03:32,340
But this footage was already
shown in 2022. So it certainly

2074
02:03:32,340 --> 02:03:37,020
wasn't from a recent attack in
the Red Sea. So that much we

2075
02:03:37,020 --> 02:03:40,410
know was bullcrap. But it was
played around the world as Oh,

2076
02:03:40,410 --> 02:03:45,240
look what's happening. I think
you nailed it with this, you

2077
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:49,440
know, and it's not just, it's
not just they wanted, they want

2078
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:53,520
all of the Palestine, all of
Palestine go to Egypt. They want

2079
02:03:53,520 --> 02:03:54,210
it all out

2080
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:57,270
John C Dvorak: all. recently. I
think they've made this thing

2081
02:03:57,270 --> 02:03:58,080
get out

2082
02:03:58,110 --> 02:04:02,010
Adam Curry: here. Here's this is
a clip from where's this from

2083
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:03,660
Air France? 24. Yeah, it

2084
02:04:03,660 --> 02:04:07,680
Unknown: was the Philadelphia
corridor that goes along between

2085
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:12,360
the Gaza Strip. And Egypt is
considered to be a very

2086
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:17,880
strategic location. Since this
is where we have the Rafah

2087
02:04:18,210 --> 02:04:22,740
crossing, the rough ahead
crossing between Gaza and Egypt

2088
02:04:22,980 --> 02:04:26,640
is the only connection between
the Gaza Strip and the rest of

2089
02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:33,210
the Arab world. Now, Israel
believes that under this area of

2090
02:04:33,210 --> 02:04:38,400
the Philadelphia area, we
believe in Israel, that

2091
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:42,180
underneath dark tunnels, these
are tunnels, according to which

2092
02:04:42,180 --> 02:04:48,360
a Israeli military sources say a
munition and the a lot of the

2093
02:04:48,900 --> 02:04:54,120
long range missiles have been
coming in from Egypt, into the

2094
02:04:54,120 --> 02:04:57,900
Gaza Strip. And therefore it's
important for Israel to have

2095
02:04:57,900 --> 02:05:01,770
this kind of control and to this
royde them. I can tell you at

2096
02:05:01,770 --> 02:05:05,610
the same time the Egyptians,
they have been denying this,

2097
02:05:05,610 --> 02:05:09,360
they have said that they have
acted against these tunnels. And

2098
02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:14,250
that this is unacceptable. They
do not accept the Israeli notion

2099
02:05:14,250 --> 02:05:18,120
of taking over this area, they
say that there should be a

2100
02:05:18,150 --> 02:05:23,160
border between Egypt and the
Gaza Strip. And that if Israel

2101
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:28,020
takes over the Rafah crossing,
this will further deteriorate

2102
02:05:28,020 --> 02:05:32,610
the situation in side the Gaza,
one has to mention another thing

2103
02:05:32,730 --> 02:05:36,510
that once Israel will take over
this corridor, this means that

2104
02:05:36,510 --> 02:05:40,770
there will be heavy a fighting
there, because Hamas is going to

2105
02:05:40,770 --> 02:05:45,000
give a heavy fight in this area.
And also this is an area which

2106
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:49,710
is very crowded with Palestinian
population, we have to remember

2107
02:05:49,830 --> 02:05:54,480
that the Israeli military has
been pushing the residents from

2108
02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:58,200
the north of the Gaza strip to
the south all the way to refer

2109
02:05:58,260 --> 02:06:01,680
all the way to this area. So in
order to take over we should

2110
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:03,360
expect many casualties.

2111
02:06:04,530 --> 02:06:08,460
Adam Curry: Get them out. That's
that's the message. Get them all

2112
02:06:08,460 --> 02:06:13,410
out and you know how Alexes wife
Fariba is always saying, oh, in

2113
02:06:13,410 --> 02:06:16,530
Iran, we all we all we all know
it. America and Iran are working

2114
02:06:16,530 --> 02:06:24,600
together. Well, Muslims in Iran,
Muslims in Egypt, two different

2115
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:32,460
Muslims know, yeah. Shia in
Iran, Sunni in Egypt. So they

2116
02:06:32,460 --> 02:06:38,730
don't like each other, which is
also the Iran Iraq issue. So of

2117
02:06:38,730 --> 02:06:42,630
course, they will be Oh, yeah,
not what we'll we'll we'll

2118
02:06:42,630 --> 02:06:45,570
pretend when we got some drones.
And yeah, we'll say oh, yeah,

2119
02:06:45,570 --> 02:06:49,770
no, we did that. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Yep. Yep. Yeah, we were fun. Oh,

2120
02:06:49,770 --> 02:06:53,700
the Houthi rebels militia with
their pristine uniforms.

2121
02:06:54,150 --> 02:07:00,090
Pristine boots. Completely new,
beautiful, looking good. And I

2122
02:07:00,090 --> 02:07:04,020
think if you listen to Kirby,
he's just waffling around

2123
02:07:04,020 --> 02:07:07,650
pretend like oh, is this
escalation in the region? Well,

2124
02:07:07,650 --> 02:07:08,850
you know, and joining

2125
02:07:08,850 --> 02:07:11,460
Unknown: us now more to discuss
is John Kirby, the National

2126
02:07:11,460 --> 02:07:15,060
Security Council coordinator for
Strategic Communications. John,

2127
02:07:15,060 --> 02:07:17,640
good morning. It's good to have
you. So let's start there with

2128
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:20,940
that news about us helicopters
firing on Houthi boats in self

2129
02:07:20,940 --> 02:07:25,200
defense, and killing the cruise.
How serious is this escalation

2130
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:28,830
in the US into a potential
direct conflict with these

2131
02:07:28,830 --> 02:07:31,170
Iranian backed militant groups
in the region

2132
02:07:31,230 --> 02:07:32,190
Adam Curry: in the region? We

2133
02:07:32,190 --> 02:07:34,800
Unknown: don't seek the conflict
wider in the region, we

2134
02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:37,380
certainly aren't looking for a
conflict with the Houthis. The

2135
02:07:37,380 --> 02:07:40,440
best outcome would be for the
Houthis to stop these attacks.

2136
02:07:40,530 --> 02:07:40,740
Why

2137
02:07:40,740 --> 02:07:45,240
Adam Curry: not? Why not? You
got operation? What was the

2138
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:50,370
operation called? Ba, stupid
operation name that everyone

2139
02:07:50,370 --> 02:07:53,370
walked away from? Because they
all know it's bogus. The outcome

2140
02:07:53,370 --> 02:07:55,830
Unknown: here would be for the
Hutus to stop these attacks that

2141
02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:57,090
we as we have made clear,

2142
02:07:57,150 --> 02:07:59,760
Adam Curry: oh, please Houthi
stop the attacks, we don't want

2143
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:01,830
to conflict in the region over
and

2144
02:08:01,830 --> 02:08:05,070
Unknown: over again. We have
formed a international coalition

2145
02:08:05,070 --> 02:08:09,210
now of more than 20 nations in
operation called prosperity

2146
02:08:09,210 --> 02:08:11,850
guardian, this ships and
aircraft from countries around

2147
02:08:11,850 --> 02:08:13,980
the world that are going to do
what we have to do to protect

2148
02:08:13,980 --> 02:08:16,620
that commercial shipping. It's
one of the most important, most

2149
02:08:16,620 --> 02:08:20,040
vital commercial waterways in
the world. And we have an

2150
02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:22,500
obligation with our allies and
partners to keep the flow of

2151
02:08:22,500 --> 02:08:25,170
commerce moving there. The
Houthi should stop these attacks

2152
02:08:25,170 --> 02:08:25,260
you

2153
02:08:25,260 --> 02:08:27,540
Adam Curry: but why don't you go
strike him? We've got everything

2154
02:08:27,540 --> 02:08:30,570
we got missiles, we got
satellite, Iraqis.

2155
02:08:31,170 --> 02:08:33,480
John C Dvorak: In Iraq, we do it
in Syria, why don't we do it?

2156
02:08:33,510 --> 02:08:36,210
Strike them Yemen of hell? With

2157
02:08:36,210 --> 02:08:39,270
Unknown: John, what about a pre
emptive military strike is that

2158
02:08:39,270 --> 02:08:39,480
on the

2159
02:08:39,480 --> 02:08:41,460
Adam Curry: table surgical
strike in the region?

2160
02:08:41,550 --> 02:08:43,950
Unknown: I won't say what's on
or off the table right now, I'll

2161
02:08:43,950 --> 02:08:46,050
tell you this a couple of
things. One, just to reiterate

2162
02:08:46,050 --> 02:08:48,420
what I said before, we're going
to do we have to do to protect

2163
02:08:48,420 --> 02:08:51,750
shipping. Number two, we've got
significant national security

2164
02:08:51,750 --> 02:08:54,870
interests in the region, just on
our own the United States. And

2165
02:08:54,870 --> 02:08:57,510
we're going to put the kind of
forces we need in the region to

2166
02:08:57,510 --> 02:08:59,790
protect those interests. And
we're going to act in self

2167
02:08:59,790 --> 02:09:02,700
defense going forward. Again,
I'm not ruling anything in or

2168
02:09:02,700 --> 02:09:05,940
out. But we have made it clear
publicly to the Houthis. We've

2169
02:09:05,940 --> 02:09:08,010
made clear privately to our
allies and partners in the

2170
02:09:08,010 --> 02:09:10,290
region that we take these
threats seriously. And we're

2171
02:09:10,290 --> 02:09:12,030
going to make the right
decisions going forward.

2172
02:09:12,780 --> 02:09:15,510
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're gonna
make the right decisions going

2173
02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:16,050
forward,

2174
02:09:16,050 --> 02:09:19,050
Adam Curry: which means nothing
means we're gonna do nothing,

2175
02:09:19,410 --> 02:09:20,370
because we're

2176
02:09:20,370 --> 02:09:22,230
John C Dvorak: gonna do
something once this agreement is

2177
02:09:22,230 --> 02:09:23,280
made. Well,

2178
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:27,960
Adam Curry: meanwhile, our
liquid petroleum gas is much

2179
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:32,940
cheaper. Our oil is going to be
cheaper. The way I see it,

2180
02:09:32,970 --> 02:09:36,690
people say on all the way around
the going round the long way.

2181
02:09:37,620 --> 02:09:42,210
Now, this is bullcrap. And I'm
pretty sure that we have we'll

2182
02:09:42,210 --> 02:09:45,450
get that as another Iran deal on
the table and you know, some

2183
02:09:45,450 --> 02:09:45,600
more

2184
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:47,520
John C Dvorak: fun another
reason people should subscribe

2185
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:50,760
to the newsletter. I just
stunned that everybody that we

2186
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:54,480
have nailed is no small
percentage. It's fine.

2187
02:09:55,830 --> 02:10:00,000
Adam Curry: So Meanwhile, back
at the ranch, Judge Andrew

2188
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:05,130
Positano has Max Blumenthal on
who I presume is Jewish.

2189
02:10:07,259 --> 02:10:10,799
John C Dvorak: bloomin, I
presume he is to. This is what

2190
02:10:10,799 --> 02:10:13,919
his Neapolitan was podcast.
Yeah,

2191
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:16,650
Adam Curry: yeah, of course.
It's a podcast, which I think

2192
02:10:16,650 --> 02:10:23,610
will be nominated for the most
amazing Jew hate in, in a single

2193
02:10:23,610 --> 02:10:28,110
podcast episode. This, this was
really interesting. One event

2194
02:10:28,110 --> 02:10:30,810
Unknown: we covered was the
return of something like 80 to

2195
02:10:30,810 --> 02:10:36,150
100 corpses to the Gaza Strip to
a cemetery in the southern city

2196
02:10:36,150 --> 02:10:39,150
of Rafah. These were corpses of
peoples whose bodies had been

2197
02:10:39,150 --> 02:10:43,530
stolen by the Israeli military
from many of them have been

2198
02:10:43,530 --> 02:10:47,970
stolen from the Shifa Hospital
in the Gaza, in Gaza City from

2199
02:10:47,970 --> 02:10:51,510
other cemeteries, ostensibly
because the Israelis were

2200
02:10:51,510 --> 02:10:56,280
looking for their own hostages.
But we have this history of

2201
02:10:56,280 --> 02:10:59,910
Israeli Oregon theft, theft of
body parts, which is well

2202
02:10:59,910 --> 02:11:03,900
documented and admitted by for
example, Dr. Yoo hoo to his

2203
02:11:04,770 --> 02:11:08,310
state pathologist at the Abu
Kabir Institute in Israel.

2204
02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:14,970
There's There are reports, even
by CNN about this. Dating back

2205
02:11:14,970 --> 02:11:17,820
decades, Israel is an
international center of the

2206
02:11:17,820 --> 02:11:21,900
illegal Oregon trade had been
prosecuted in Israeli courts for

2207
02:11:21,900 --> 02:11:26,760
this and the Gaza Ministry of
Health and Euro med human rights

2208
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:29,850
monitor have alleged that these
corpses when they were returned

2209
02:11:29,850 --> 02:11:32,520
to Israel to be buried in a mass
grave because there's no room

2210
02:11:32,520 --> 02:11:37,890
left in the cemeteries had body
parts missing. How do

2211
02:11:37,890 --> 02:11:40,230
Adam Curry: they do this? I
mean, do they bring the body to

2212
02:11:40,410 --> 02:11:45,390
off to an Israeli Morgan and
Israeli mortician opens up the

2213
02:11:45,390 --> 02:11:48,240
body and removes the organs and
then they then they bury the

2214
02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:50,130
body in a in a mass grave?

2215
02:11:51,540 --> 02:11:53,310
Unknown: Well, that's what the
Gaza Ministry of Health is

2216
02:11:53,310 --> 02:11:58,020
alleging Dr. Yehuda, his said
was that we removed corneas and

2217
02:11:58,050 --> 02:12:02,100
took organs and other body parts
without the permission of the

2218
02:12:02,100 --> 02:12:06,360
people who had been killed or
their families. And this

2219
02:12:06,360 --> 02:12:09,330
included Palestinians who had
been killed by Israeli security

2220
02:12:09,330 --> 02:12:13,470
forces. people were killed in
road accidents and even Israeli

2221
02:12:13,470 --> 02:12:14,310
soldiers.

2222
02:12:15,060 --> 02:12:15,960
Adam Curry: This is great.

2223
02:12:16,500 --> 02:12:18,600
John C Dvorak: I gave you a clip
of the day for digging that one

2224
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:19,170
out. Oh, there's

2225
02:12:19,170 --> 02:12:21,270
Adam Curry: a part two, but I'll
take the Clip of the Day first.

2226
02:12:22,680 --> 02:12:25,950
John C Dvorak: Clip. That's a
good one. No, yeah, that was

2227
02:12:26,250 --> 02:12:28,260
good find. Part two, part

2228
02:12:28,260 --> 02:12:28,650
Adam Curry: two.

2229
02:12:28,740 --> 02:12:31,530
Unknown: Israel also has the
largest skin bank in the world.

2230
02:12:31,530 --> 02:12:36,720
Yeah, how many uses that skin
bank to graph the skin of for

2231
02:12:36,720 --> 02:12:40,920
example, burn wounds that
Israeli soldiers are enduring in

2232
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:45,420
the Gaza Strip, as 1000s are
being wounded. In this sort of

2233
02:12:45,420 --> 02:12:49,620
faltering military assault on
Gaza. The Israeli skin bank is

2234
02:12:49,620 --> 02:12:56,670
accused of stealing Scotty parts
as well. So this is a this is a

2235
02:12:56,670 --> 02:13:00,330
crime against humanity that goes
to the essence of Israel's

2236
02:13:00,360 --> 02:13:04,650
assault on personal the personal
freedom of Palestinians. Our

2237
02:13:04,650 --> 02:13:08,640
families don't even have the
right to bury their own, their

2238
02:13:08,640 --> 02:13:12,870
own family members who are
killed. And that's also part of

2239
02:13:12,870 --> 02:13:16,410
the psychological war on
Palestine, that is real seeks

2240
02:13:16,410 --> 02:13:21,750
has all as traditionally sought
to prevent the burials of

2241
02:13:21,750 --> 02:13:24,570
Palestinians, especially those
who they consider to be quote

2242
02:13:24,570 --> 02:13:27,330
unquote, terrorists. is great.

2243
02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:31,140
John C Dvorak: I have my two
Gaza clips.

2244
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:35,310
Adam Curry: You know, I'm just,
I'm just thinking, you know, I

2245
02:13:35,340 --> 02:13:40,290
there's donor bone in my jaw.
And I thought maybe it was from

2246
02:13:40,290 --> 02:13:42,960
the Uyghurs but now I'm thinking
it's probably some people are

2247
02:13:42,960 --> 02:13:43,830
Jewish. Now

2248
02:13:43,830 --> 02:13:47,610
John C Dvorak: Hamas. You can
be, oh, yeah, you can be a

2249
02:13:47,610 --> 02:13:49,110
terrorist any minute

2250
02:13:49,140 --> 02:13:51,510
Adam Curry: I got. If I start
yelling, Allahu Akbar, then you

2251
02:13:51,510 --> 02:13:54,210
know what's going on. It's the
most people might

2252
02:13:54,210 --> 02:13:57,630
John C Dvorak: want to read the
novel heart of a dog by Bolga

2253
02:13:57,630 --> 02:14:02,190
cough to get the idea of what
could happen under such

2254
02:14:02,190 --> 02:14:08,280
circumstances. So I have two
Gaza clips and they're super

2255
02:14:08,280 --> 02:14:11,280
short, because I have a comment
to make about each one

2256
02:14:11,610 --> 02:14:14,970
Unknown: is really tax push
deeper into the 25 mile long

2257
02:14:14,970 --> 02:14:19,320
Gaza Strip today, with residents
saying airstrikes hit to urban

2258
02:14:19,350 --> 02:14:23,430
refugee camps. The Hamas run
health ministry in Gaza reports

2259
02:14:23,430 --> 02:14:27,480
at least 165 Palestinians have
been killed since yesterday.

2260
02:14:29,220 --> 02:14:32,580
John C Dvorak: Okay, finally,
somebody says that correctly.

2261
02:14:32,940 --> 02:14:39,360
The Hamas run health ministry
point nobody has done that

2262
02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:43,110
before they always just oh the
Palestinian health ministry know

2263
02:14:43,200 --> 02:14:46,890
that Hamas so these numbers
could be completely bogus.

2264
02:14:47,250 --> 02:14:51,450
There's no reason to suspect
that Hamas is not lying through

2265
02:14:51,450 --> 02:14:54,600
his teeth about all these
numbers. We've been hearing the

2266
02:14:54,600 --> 02:15:01,170
genocide so I thought that was
an eye opener. So let's part two

2267
02:15:01,170 --> 02:15:04,140
of this continuation of the same
clip. Israel

2268
02:15:04,140 --> 02:15:06,600
Unknown: has not responded to
reporting that it attacked

2269
02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:10,470
refugee areas. This comes after
US Secretary of State Antony

2270
02:15:10,470 --> 02:15:15,570
Blinken approved a $147 million
emergency weapons sale to

2271
02:15:15,570 --> 02:15:19,200
Israel, bypassing Congress.
Second time this month.

2272
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:25,290
Adam Curry: He just had that in
his back pocket Hunter Hunter

2273
02:15:25,290 --> 02:15:26,370
had it in the bank account.

2274
02:15:27,900 --> 02:15:30,630
John C Dvorak: Second time we
bypass Congress for money,

2275
02:15:30,870 --> 02:15:34,080
that's not even that's
unconstitutional. He should be

2276
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:34,950
impeached.

2277
02:15:35,550 --> 02:15:38,760
Adam Curry: Oh, here we go.
That's PBS. That's pretty

2278
02:15:38,760 --> 02:15:40,200
amazing that PBS did that.

2279
02:15:42,240 --> 02:15:44,670
John C Dvorak: You know, I was
kind of stunned by that short

2280
02:15:44,670 --> 02:15:45,090
clip.

2281
02:15:45,600 --> 02:15:49,290
Adam Curry: By the way, the Clip
of the Day goes to Neil the

2282
02:15:49,290 --> 02:15:53,670
other half of the Jones brothers
the John brothers like bring it

2283
02:15:53,670 --> 02:15:55,830
bringing the heat shows

2284
02:15:55,830 --> 02:15:57,990
John C Dvorak: brothers. They
want to do their own show that's

2285
02:15:57,990 --> 02:16:01,470
what's gonna result that's the
long term. That's a do a show

2286
02:16:01,470 --> 02:16:02,820
themselves. screw us

2287
02:16:02,850 --> 02:16:04,830
Adam Curry: exit strategy. No,
wait, wait, we're waiting.

2288
02:16:04,860 --> 02:16:07,410
You're seeing this all wrong.
We've got the opportunity to

2289
02:16:07,410 --> 02:16:10,350
Jones brothers do the show. We
exactly we

2290
02:16:10,350 --> 02:16:12,000
John C Dvorak: don't do
anything. Yeah, that's money.

2291
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:12,330
Yeah.

2292
02:16:13,830 --> 02:16:15,660
Adam Curry: I'd like to thank
you for your currency in the

2293
02:16:15,660 --> 02:16:18,960
morning to you the man who put
the seat in Tesco rial ladies

2294
02:16:18,960 --> 02:16:21,000
and gentlemen say hello to my
friend on the other end the one

2295
02:16:21,000 --> 02:16:22,140
or only Mr. John's

2296
02:16:26,460 --> 02:16:28,380
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
you Mr. And curry in the morning

2297
02:16:28,380 --> 02:16:30,840
to Jones brothers chips to see
boots on the ground feed near

2298
02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:33,030
subs in the water and other
games. A nice out there in the

2299
02:16:33,030 --> 02:16:33,360
morning.

2300
02:16:38,639 --> 02:16:44,129
Adam Curry: Hey, we went up. We
gained some trolls 200 jumped on

2301
02:16:44,129 --> 02:16:45,809
board. 1774.

2302
02:16:46,889 --> 02:16:51,059
John C Dvorak: Okay, this first
Yeah. New Year's Day and before

2303
02:16:51,059 --> 02:16:53,669
New Year's people are having
family dinners. Who knows what

2304
02:16:53,669 --> 02:16:56,009
they're up to? Well, they're not
hanging out. We're the only

2305
02:16:56,009 --> 02:16:59,849
people that work on this day
anyway. Pretty much to kind of

2306
02:16:59,849 --> 02:17:03,779
scrub crews that we're seeing on
all the networks including Fox

2307
02:17:04,169 --> 02:17:05,339
is pretty amazing.

2308
02:17:07,139 --> 02:17:12,629
Adam Curry: Yeah. Now I think
it's I think it's worthy that we

2309
02:17:12,629 --> 02:17:16,469
do this. I like it. I like it.
Yeah, because otherwise you do

2310
02:17:16,469 --> 02:17:20,189
in fact, show beer. What are you
drinking? Hopefully it's not

2311
02:17:20,189 --> 02:17:21,299
just seltzer.

2312
02:17:21,749 --> 02:17:25,949
John C Dvorak: No, it's not as a
matter of fact, this is bleh

2313
02:17:28,110 --> 02:17:31,920
Adam Curry: bleh Wow, that has
some natural flavors, I'm sure.

2314
02:17:32,190 --> 02:17:34,230
John C Dvorak: No, it is
actually I'm gonna read it. So

2315
02:17:34,230 --> 02:17:38,460
it's just blue. Bleh This is
unflavored sparkling water with

2316
02:17:38,490 --> 02:17:39,660
electrolytes.

2317
02:17:41,430 --> 02:17:43,440
Adam Curry: Read the
ingredients. I guarantee you it

2318
02:17:43,440 --> 02:17:44,280
says so this

2319
02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:48,720
John C Dvorak: is a tribute a
tribute to the Idiocracy movie.

2320
02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:54,990
Oh, I can read them. Okay. Oh,
water. Calcium chloride and

2321
02:17:54,990 --> 02:17:56,430
potassium chloride.

2322
02:17:57,690 --> 02:17:58,650
Adam Curry: Yeah, yum.

2323
02:18:00,540 --> 02:18:03,210
John C Dvorak: In other words,
water, water and salt.

2324
02:18:03,839 --> 02:18:06,719
Adam Curry: water and salt.
Well, good. Is it but it's non

2325
02:18:06,719 --> 02:18:07,229
flavored?

2326
02:18:07,230 --> 02:18:09,660
John C Dvorak: I thought blue
bleh always had flavors. No, no,

2327
02:18:09,660 --> 02:18:11,460
you can get the unflavored
that's what I got.

2328
02:18:11,490 --> 02:18:14,160
Adam Curry: You get that Frank
Sinatra voice? You start

2329
02:18:14,160 --> 02:18:16,650
singing? You know he? Yeah.
Okay.

2330
02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:19,740
John C Dvorak: That's blue. bleh
bleh bleh.

2331
02:18:19,740 --> 02:18:22,830
Adam Curry: Dustin the
commercials. Hey, does the

2332
02:18:22,830 --> 02:18:26,550
commercials for he's done
commercials for the water? You

2333
02:18:27,180 --> 02:18:32,340
guess? Back here? Well, trolls,
thanks for showing up. We

2334
02:18:32,340 --> 02:18:37,500
appreciate you. Many of you are
logged in at troll room.io Where

2335
02:18:37,680 --> 02:18:42,210
there's always a party going on
there. 24/7 even when this is

2336
02:18:42,210 --> 02:18:45,780
also part of the no agenda
stream, so that runs 24/7. And

2337
02:18:45,780 --> 02:18:48,900
this podcast on there lots of
live shows. For instance, like

2338
02:18:48,900 --> 02:18:52,920
Wednesday night, Nick, the rat
comes on. Before the show Darren

2339
02:18:52,920 --> 02:18:56,880
O'Neil who I have to say Darren
also worked today he showed up

2340
02:18:56,880 --> 02:18:59,610
he was sick, but he still did
the show. How do you sound I

2341
02:18:59,610 --> 02:19:03,450
didn't get to hear him. He's
congested, congested, but he did

2342
02:19:03,450 --> 02:19:03,990
the show.

2343
02:19:04,590 --> 02:19:07,710
John C Dvorak: But there is
audio I got a rock and roll

2344
02:19:07,710 --> 02:19:08,310
show.

2345
02:19:08,339 --> 02:19:10,439
Adam Curry: You know, I got the
Bluegrass show before that on

2346
02:19:10,439 --> 02:19:13,709
Sunday morning. There's lots of
lots of live shows. It's, it's

2347
02:19:13,709 --> 02:19:16,979
cool. And you can be a part of
that by going to troll room.io

2348
02:19:16,979 --> 02:19:20,969
or using a modern podcast app
podcast apps.com Where you get

2349
02:19:20,999 --> 02:19:23,879
alerted so you get an actual
ping oh, wait a minute. That's

2350
02:19:23,879 --> 02:19:27,659
the bad thing the boys alive the
boys alive that was not or if

2351
02:19:27,659 --> 02:19:31,019
you miss that if you if you
can't attend, then you can just

2352
02:19:31,829 --> 02:19:34,529
get your get the podcast version
when it comes out. It's all in

2353
02:19:34,529 --> 02:19:37,979
one app. You don't need to have
separate apps. And God please

2354
02:19:37,979 --> 02:19:45,059
don't use YouTube music. That's
that's the devil right there. Do

2355
02:19:45,059 --> 02:19:49,889
not use YouTube music, export
your OPML file your your

2356
02:19:49,889 --> 02:19:54,059
subscriptions to any of these
modern podcast apps. Value for

2357
02:19:54,059 --> 02:19:58,229
value. That's how we've been
doing it once again a full year

2358
02:19:58,229 --> 02:20:02,999
of value for value And I have to
say I'm very happy. Even though

2359
02:20:02,999 --> 02:20:08,489
it's often a rollercoaster ride
for us with ups and downs, the

2360
02:20:08,489 --> 02:20:12,209
podcast industrial complex is
collapsing upon itself. It's

2361
02:20:12,209 --> 02:20:16,379
folding. So may you imagine if
we had any ads if we had

2362
02:20:16,379 --> 02:20:20,279
corporate money, which we'd be
dead? Well, first of all, we

2363
02:20:20,279 --> 02:20:22,739
wouldn't have been on the air
for 16 years, because I'm sure

2364
02:20:23,069 --> 02:20:24,809
we would have said something
that pissed off.

2365
02:20:25,770 --> 02:20:27,570
John C Dvorak: In the first
couple of years, we've said so

2366
02:20:27,570 --> 02:20:31,710
much stuff that if we stopped
counting how many offensive

2367
02:20:31,710 --> 02:20:34,860
things we've said that could be
that could get us thrown off if

2368
02:20:34,860 --> 02:20:39,360
we had somebody telling us to.
You guys are shaking the wrong

2369
02:20:39,360 --> 02:20:42,240
thing. They're kind of
offensive.

2370
02:20:42,270 --> 02:20:44,850
Adam Curry: Yeah, we got a call
from sales.

2371
02:20:46,650 --> 02:20:49,110
John C Dvorak: We got a call
from sales. The

2372
02:20:49,110 --> 02:20:52,740
Adam Curry: BMW people didn't
like the German jokes. Okay.

2373
02:20:52,860 --> 02:20:56,610
Okay. We're sorry about that. So
no, we just give you the value

2374
02:20:56,610 --> 02:21:00,630
all of it. There's no gimmicks
no tricks, no tote bags. Now of

2375
02:21:00,630 --> 02:21:03,420
course, you can get to all kinds
of cool things at no agenda.

2376
02:21:03,450 --> 02:21:08,280
shop.com We have no contract
with them. You know, the artists

2377
02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:10,770
deal with them directly. They
get their art they put it

2378
02:21:10,770 --> 02:21:13,350
together. That's one of the many
ways that valley was wondering

2379
02:21:13,350 --> 02:21:16,680
what they're doing. Haven't
heard from in a while. I noticed

2380
02:21:16,710 --> 02:21:19,170
no, but that's why I want to
mention them because people

2381
02:21:19,170 --> 02:21:22,680
should go to no agenda shop.com
get all kinds of cool merch,

2382
02:21:23,100 --> 02:21:27,060
merch, there's no licensing
deals, none of that. And from

2383
02:21:27,060 --> 02:21:29,610
time to time the shop, donate
some money, whatever, we're

2384
02:21:29,610 --> 02:21:32,730
happy with it. We have people
doing all kinds of things void

2385
02:21:32,730 --> 02:21:36,690
zero running infrastructures,
they have caps and beards caps

2386
02:21:36,690 --> 02:21:40,770
your cozies beer cozies we
should get one for Horowitz when

2387
02:21:40,770 --> 02:21:41,970
he's on this fishing trip.

2388
02:21:43,110 --> 02:21:46,020
John C Dvorak: Beer cozies
always on a fishing trip. I know

2389
02:21:46,770 --> 02:21:48,690
how many catches more fish?

2390
02:21:49,050 --> 02:21:51,960
Adam Curry: And he and then he
throws it back? Yeah, I

2391
02:21:51,960 --> 02:21:54,180
John C Dvorak: was very
disappointed because he catches

2392
02:21:54,180 --> 02:21:56,370
the some of the fish. I've
always wanted to try like a

2393
02:21:56,370 --> 02:21:57,270
wahoo

2394
02:21:57,660 --> 02:22:00,420
Adam Curry: Yeah. When he asked
to go give it to the natives

2395
02:22:01,530 --> 02:22:04,650
weird. Like you know, I have
friends here we have friends

2396
02:22:04,650 --> 02:22:09,900
here who are well, they say
they're hunters but obviously

2397
02:22:09,900 --> 02:22:13,290
smuggling blood blood diamonds
and ivory or whatever into into

2398
02:22:13,290 --> 02:22:19,530
Texas. And so they'll pay money
to go shoot an elephant. And

2399
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:23,700
then the whole then they give
the elephant to the town. And

2400
02:22:23,700 --> 02:22:27,780
you know, they'll get like a
steak. Elephant steak and then

2401
02:22:27,780 --> 02:22:32,610
that's it. So they pay the
overhead elephant. No. I would

2402
02:22:32,610 --> 02:22:34,920
like it right? Yeah. How is it?
Like chicken?

2403
02:22:36,390 --> 02:22:41,850
John C Dvorak: It's it's kind of
tough. It's not whatever cut I

2404
02:22:41,850 --> 02:22:47,610
had. It was not. I'm not gonna
I'm not craving elephant. Moose

2405
02:22:47,640 --> 02:22:48,180
is the meat.

2406
02:22:48,840 --> 02:22:52,350
Adam Curry: Moose is great.
Moose and Reindeer.

2407
02:22:52,740 --> 02:22:55,860
John C Dvorak: Reindeer is
terrific is I will say this

2408
02:22:55,860 --> 02:22:59,670
about reindeer. Not to belabor
it. It's a little bloody.

2409
02:23:00,300 --> 02:23:04,440
Reindeer is probably the
bloodiest, I mean, meat you can

2410
02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:07,230
ever imagine. It really just
runs all over the place. But

2411
02:23:07,230 --> 02:23:08,670
it's fabulous that

2412
02:23:08,670 --> 02:23:10,620
Adam Curry: well that's because
you had Rudolph, you want to get

2413
02:23:10,620 --> 02:23:12,600
donner, one of those guys, you
want to get

2414
02:23:12,600 --> 02:23:15,510
John C Dvorak: one of those
older ones Rudolph the red

2415
02:23:15,510 --> 02:23:16,680
blooded reindeer.

2416
02:23:18,990 --> 02:23:23,430
Adam Curry: Anyway, so all we do
is put the value out there for

2417
02:23:23,430 --> 02:23:26,910
you. There's no paywalls no
levels or anything, no

2418
02:23:26,910 --> 02:23:30,930
subscriptions. It's just you
know, all we do is do our best

2419
02:23:30,930 --> 02:23:34,650
every single show. And then if
you assign any value to that in

2420
02:23:34,650 --> 02:23:36,900
your life, if it did anything
for you, if it made you smile,

2421
02:23:36,900 --> 02:23:40,620
it made you cry. If you learned
something, if it made you think

2422
02:23:40,620 --> 02:23:43,500
about something, if it just got
you through a difficult time in

2423
02:23:43,500 --> 02:23:46,740
your life, then send us some
value back you can do it

2424
02:23:46,740 --> 02:23:51,360
whenever you want, however you
want. We accept treasure, we

2425
02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:54,900
also accept a time and talent.
As I said, you know the Jones

2426
02:23:54,900 --> 02:23:58,260
boys help us out a lot. We've
got void zero on the

2427
02:23:58,260 --> 02:24:01,590
infrastructure. We got sir
Daniel on the on the meetups and

2428
02:24:01,590 --> 02:24:04,080
a lot of use and then boots on
like the teacher boots on the

2429
02:24:04,080 --> 02:24:09,060
ground reports. All kinds of
stuff. It's it truly is. I think

2430
02:24:09,060 --> 02:24:12,720
the best example of a podcast.
We are interactive with our

2431
02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:15,870
audience. You're not listeners,
you're active producers.

2432
02:24:16,500 --> 02:24:17,730
Subscribe to that newsletter.

2433
02:24:18,240 --> 02:24:20,100
John C Dvorak: I think I think
our interaction with the

2434
02:24:20,100 --> 02:24:24,360
audiences is there's nobody that
comes close.

2435
02:24:25,170 --> 02:24:29,460
Adam Curry: No, no. But the
thing is, we make it look easy.

2436
02:24:30,270 --> 02:24:32,550
Now not everybody can do this
Jones brothers friggin the

2437
02:24:32,550 --> 02:24:37,680
ideas. But it's been honed over
16 years and we've done that

2438
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:40,290
with you. The show started off
very differently. And we're

2439
02:24:40,290 --> 02:24:45,150
doing we believe what you want.
And for that very reason. We're

2440
02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:50,670
going to thank some suppliers of
talent and time which is our

2441
02:24:50,670 --> 02:24:55,830
artists. And a day you go no
agenda art generator.com Sir

2442
02:24:55,830 --> 02:25:00,000
Paul couture. Now on the fourth
version, I think of the Archon

2443
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:04,350
iterator and we're very pleased.
And of course, we also have our

2444
02:25:04,350 --> 02:25:07,860
artists and we're going to
critique some of the submissions

2445
02:25:07,890 --> 02:25:11,220
and also congratulate the winner
if you want to call it a

2446
02:25:11,220 --> 02:25:17,100
contest. The art that we picked
for episode 1620 We titled that

2447
02:25:17,100 --> 02:25:22,200
Yoko swift Oh, how could we not?
And I mean, this was a classic

2448
02:25:23,010 --> 02:25:27,720
for a number of reasons. One is
comics or Blogger. Two, it was

2449
02:25:27,720 --> 02:25:31,110
not a but which is amazing.
That's a that's a huge

2450
02:25:33,120 --> 02:25:37,500
diversion. For comics or
Blogger. He didn't do a but but

2451
02:25:37,500 --> 02:25:41,070
he does like poop emojis and it
was a poop emoji with the

2452
02:25:41,070 --> 02:25:48,780
recycle arrows. And that was of
course for the California poop

2453
02:25:48,780 --> 02:25:51,210
water recycling that you will
not be drinking your own

2454
02:25:51,210 --> 02:25:55,110
John C Dvorak: nose. No, no, no,
it was it was for the Japanese

2455
02:25:55,650 --> 02:26:00,780
just deciding to make poop from
steak. Steak poop.

2456
02:26:01,650 --> 02:26:03,600
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I forgot
it was

2457
02:26:04,470 --> 02:26:07,560
John C Dvorak: water is recycled
the poop here? Yeah,

2458
02:26:07,590 --> 02:26:09,270
Adam Curry: not yet. It's
coming. Well, we'd

2459
02:26:09,270 --> 02:26:11,700
John C Dvorak: have by
reelecting Gavin Newsom, but

2460
02:26:11,700 --> 02:26:13,500
besides that, oh,

2461
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:16,680
Adam Curry: so we thank
commentary, blogger and Oh, and

2462
02:26:16,680 --> 02:26:19,920
another was of course AI, which
made it even more exciting for

2463
02:26:19,920 --> 02:26:23,220
us. But that's only because you
especially there wasn't much

2464
02:26:23,250 --> 02:26:27,810
else to choose from. It'd be so
common sure blogger flooded the

2465
02:26:27,810 --> 02:26:33,090
zone with poop emojis. Thanks.
Then we had what did we have? We

2466
02:26:33,090 --> 02:26:37,560
had the chat times from Dame
Kenny Ben. We got it but it

2467
02:26:37,560 --> 02:26:41,400
wasn't I mean, yes, it was the
time New York Times suing chat

2468
02:26:41,400 --> 02:26:47,250
GBT was cute it was cute a
little bland you actually you

2469
02:26:47,250 --> 02:26:52,380
were stuck on the on the the
recycling variant from comments

2470
02:26:52,380 --> 02:26:55,440
or Blogger with all the fruits
and vegetables? Yeah,

2471
02:26:55,440 --> 02:26:57,390
John C Dvorak: I thought that
was a better looking piece but

2472
02:26:57,390 --> 02:27:02,190
it didn't make any sense. Now we
did have some poop involved so

2473
02:27:02,220 --> 02:27:05,970
there's no point we had to to
poop ones and we decided to one

2474
02:27:06,150 --> 02:27:09,780
cut more colorful poopy one was
the one we chose and it's also

2475
02:27:09,780 --> 02:27:13,140
the colorful poopy one had a
bigger smile. It did an

2476
02:27:13,140 --> 02:27:14,610
aggressive one look depressed.

2477
02:27:15,930 --> 02:27:20,310
Adam Curry: We'd like the happy
poop steak now. But see there

2478
02:27:20,310 --> 02:27:25,800
was What else was there the mask
goat by nest networks which

2479
02:27:26,940 --> 02:27:29,610
John C Dvorak: I like to cheese
the Davey cheese cake.

2480
02:27:30,240 --> 02:27:34,380
Adam Curry: The the very
difficult to understand. Know

2481
02:27:34,380 --> 02:27:37,770
what you would never get it? No.
People have to have an England

2482
02:27:38,220 --> 02:27:42,120
stop putting Joe Biden and Trump
and all these don't use heads of

2483
02:27:42,120 --> 02:27:46,290
politicians 99% Certain you're
not going to get chosen.

2484
02:27:48,390 --> 02:27:49,470
John C Dvorak: Now I would agree

2485
02:27:49,560 --> 02:27:51,930
Adam Curry: with the shaft and
that was it was it was kind of

2486
02:27:51,930 --> 02:27:54,480
low low on the on the level.
Yeah, we

2487
02:27:54,480 --> 02:27:55,860
John C Dvorak: didn't have a
great election. We

2488
02:27:55,860 --> 02:28:00,600
Adam Curry: should have the clip
custodian Bunsen burner. Oh,

2489
02:28:00,600 --> 02:28:01,020
yeah. You

2490
02:28:01,020 --> 02:28:01,890
John C Dvorak: liked that one.

2491
02:28:02,520 --> 02:28:06,570
Adam Curry: It was a nice piece.
But it was it really didn't. We

2492
02:28:06,570 --> 02:28:10,200
needed sterno that really was
sterno that I was going for by

2493
02:28:10,200 --> 02:28:13,140
said Bunsen burner. And he
probably was creating it

2494
02:28:13,140 --> 02:28:18,480
already. So and that was really
the selection poop burger now.

2495
02:28:18,540 --> 02:28:22,770
No, no, no, no, that's not going
to cut. So I see that we already

2496
02:28:22,770 --> 02:28:27,210
have a quite a large selection
for our New Year's Eve selection

2497
02:28:27,690 --> 02:28:30,150
that we'll be picking right
after the show. Thank you to all

2498
02:28:30,150 --> 02:28:34,470
of these artists. Of course. We
appreciate everything that you

2499
02:28:34,470 --> 02:28:38,910
do. And at home you can play
along with the game. You can

2500
02:28:38,910 --> 02:28:42,300
just go to no agenda art
generator.com. You can it's

2501
02:28:42,300 --> 02:28:46,170
interactive as well. You can
refresh during the show actually

2502
02:28:46,170 --> 02:28:48,960
see these art pieces update. You
can go look at individual

2503
02:28:48,990 --> 02:28:52,590
individual artists profiles. I
think the artist profiles can be

2504
02:28:52,590 --> 02:28:55,800
built out a little bit more a
little more information about

2505
02:28:55,800 --> 02:28:57,660
the artists, it seems like now
it's just the the

2506
02:28:57,660 --> 02:29:01,230
John C Dvorak: artists have to
chip in. They got chip in where

2507
02:29:01,230 --> 02:29:04,710
they got to. Who are they? Lot
artists won't tell us

2508
02:29:04,710 --> 02:29:06,750
Adam Curry: anything about the
kind of a little bit more but

2509
02:29:06,750 --> 02:29:09,270
there's no I don't think it's
any place for some information.

2510
02:29:10,380 --> 02:29:13,830
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, there's
that. Yeah, it's just the old,

2511
02:29:14,310 --> 02:29:16,980
like a wiki, maybe like a wiki
page where the artists can go in

2512
02:29:16,980 --> 02:29:18,570
and just write his own bio.

2513
02:29:19,350 --> 02:29:21,690
Adam Curry: I mean, they have a
little icon so they can upload

2514
02:29:21,690 --> 02:29:25,830
their their profile pic. But I'm
looking for a little more, you

2515
02:29:25,830 --> 02:29:29,730
know, just a little bit more
possibility. I don't know. I

2516
02:29:29,730 --> 02:29:30,000
have

2517
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:32,520
John C Dvorak: a pocket tour in
the background listening going.

2518
02:29:32,910 --> 02:29:35,340
Like I haven't done enough work.

2519
02:29:37,590 --> 02:29:39,360
Adam Curry: You've done more
than enough, Sir Paul couture.

2520
02:29:39,360 --> 02:29:43,740
We appreciate you. So thank you
again to all of our artists now.

2521
02:29:43,740 --> 02:29:46,710
Let's go to the treasure portion
of the show. We had a special

2522
02:29:46,710 --> 02:29:51,480
promotion 123123 I don't don't
think anyone did this. Did we

2523
02:29:51,480 --> 02:29:52,020
get any? Oh, we

2524
02:29:52,020 --> 02:29:54,930
John C Dvorak: got a couple one
two. At the beginning is 123.

2525
02:29:54,960 --> 02:29:55,530
No,

2526
02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:58,890
Adam Curry: that's not it's
123456 which I'm not going to

2527
02:29:58,890 --> 02:30:00,870
complain I'm not going In the
complain,

2528
02:30:01,290 --> 02:30:03,240
John C Dvorak: the next one is a
1232.

2529
02:30:04,290 --> 02:30:08,190
Adam Curry: Now it's 123013
Yeah, well, you know, it's

2530
02:30:08,190 --> 02:30:10,350
nomination. No, it's not even
close.

2531
02:30:10,920 --> 02:30:13,110
John C Dvorak: This is a two
three is right at the beginning.

2532
02:30:13,620 --> 02:30:16,800
Adam Curry: It was supposed to
be 123123. Yeah,

2533
02:30:16,800 --> 02:30:18,810
John C Dvorak: well, I know
somebody could have done that

2534
02:30:18,810 --> 02:30:20,400
nobody did. RS back.

2535
02:30:20,400 --> 02:30:22,830
Adam Curry: Well, we appreciate
you. They're in Louisville,

2536
02:30:22,830 --> 02:30:26,940
Kentucky. 123456. As I said, I'm
not complaining. He says this is

2537
02:30:26,940 --> 02:30:29,550
my annual contribution. That's a
great way to heal. This

2538
02:30:29,550 --> 02:30:31,830
John C Dvorak: is what every
year yours. That's the end of

2539
02:30:31,830 --> 02:30:32,580
the month. I

2540
02:30:32,580 --> 02:30:35,820
Adam Curry: love that. I love
that he's doing that. That and

2541
02:30:35,820 --> 02:30:38,430
that's a good way to do it and
really helps us at the end of

2542
02:30:38,430 --> 02:30:43,950
the year. You know, it's like
when everyone's kind of got

2543
02:30:43,950 --> 02:30:47,970
Christmas gifts, etc. All he
asked for He says his jobs karma

2544
02:30:47,970 --> 02:30:51,900
the original Pelosi one. Well,
of course that's the best one.

2545
02:30:52,650 --> 02:30:55,650
Because of the past jobs karma
I've received back and continue

2546
02:30:55,650 --> 02:30:59,550
donating like this cordially,
our s Bagwell jobs,

2547
02:30:59,700 --> 02:31:02,310
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.

2548
02:31:08,340 --> 02:31:10,740
John C Dvorak: Game Amy and
Baron John and Jefferson,

2549
02:31:10,740 --> 02:31:22,440
Wisconsin 123013. Okay, this
donation of 1230 point one three

2550
02:31:22,440 --> 02:31:27,510
is the split. Oh between barren
John the fabulous and barren net

2551
02:31:27,510 --> 02:31:31,980
test Amy of the central Idaho
Iowa bike trails to celebrate

2552
02:31:31,980 --> 02:31:38,850
our 10 year wedding anniversary.
This the 1000 takes me to Baron

2553
02:31:38,850 --> 02:31:44,340
s status. And who is this from?
Well, I guess it's Amy takes me

2554
02:31:44,340 --> 02:31:47,970
to Baroness as I like to be
known as barren Ness. Amy of

2555
02:31:47,970 --> 02:31:53,130
FEMA Region Five, if that's
allowed. Indeed, it is. The

2556
02:31:53,130 --> 02:31:56,940
230 13 for John makes him an
Associate Executive Producer,

2557
02:31:57,240 --> 02:32:00,900
John Giles. I guess we can do
that. We can put you both as

2558
02:32:00,900 --> 02:32:03,870
executives. You're truly
fabulous. And I love you so

2559
02:32:03,870 --> 02:32:07,440
much. Thanks for hitting me in
the mouth back in May 2012. And

2560
02:32:07,440 --> 02:32:11,040
introducing me to the best
podcast in the universe. JCD and

2561
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:15,570
Adam, thanks for being mic.
Commuter companions.

2562
02:32:16,140 --> 02:32:17,670
Adam Curry: Good to be in the
car with you.

2563
02:32:18,780 --> 02:32:21,450
John C Dvorak: Can I get a
reverend Reverend Manning Boom

2564
02:32:21,450 --> 02:32:26,100
shaka laka a little girl yay.
Boom shaka laka Anna yak calm. I

2565
02:32:26,100 --> 02:32:35,910
love y'all. Baroness AMI of FEMA
Region Five bingo Boom shaka

2566
02:32:35,910 --> 02:32:43,050
laka ah Harmar

2567
02:32:43,080 --> 02:32:48,060
Adam Curry: known as Nick's kid
next kid. Anonymous from

2568
02:32:48,060 --> 02:32:51,960
Charlotte, North Carolina.
550 33 cents. We got your

2569
02:32:51,960 --> 02:32:54,090
message. Happy New Year.
Gentlemen. Thank you for another

2570
02:32:54,090 --> 02:32:57,330
year valuable media
deconstruction also George

2571
02:32:57,330 --> 02:33:00,930
Washington's eggnog recipe from
the too many eggs book too many

2572
02:33:00,930 --> 02:33:04,500
eggs.com was a big hit over the
Christmas holiday. Thank you,

2573
02:33:04,500 --> 02:33:08,310
Mimi. No jingles? No karma.
Anonymous. Alright, another

2574
02:33:08,310 --> 02:33:09,510
satisfied customer?

2575
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:12,600
John C Dvorak: George
Washington.

2576
02:33:12,690 --> 02:33:15,900
Adam Curry: I forgot to make
that one. I remember seeing it.

2577
02:33:16,890 --> 02:33:17,820
I completely forgot. I

2578
02:33:17,820 --> 02:33:19,770
John C Dvorak: feel better than
anybody here. How does it go?

2579
02:33:19,770 --> 02:33:21,060
What's different about it?

2580
02:33:21,540 --> 02:33:24,270
Adam Curry: It includes wooden
false teeth,

2581
02:33:24,330 --> 02:33:27,450
John C Dvorak: wooden teeth.
Okay. Lee north in Overland

2582
02:33:27,450 --> 02:33:32,820
Park, Kansas. 369. There John
and Adam I figured out 123123

2583
02:33:32,820 --> 02:33:35,250
Was the show day about eight
months ago and I've been looking

2584
02:33:35,250 --> 02:33:40,890
forward to this day ever since.
And he gives us 369 For some

2585
02:33:40,890 --> 02:33:46,050
reason, well 369 you'd multiply
by 3123 multiplied by three is

2586
02:33:46,050 --> 02:33:47,190
3690

2587
02:33:47,460 --> 02:33:48,750
Adam Curry: you go nice.

2588
02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:52,710
John C Dvorak: I like it. On a
sidenote jobs karma has worked

2589
02:33:52,740 --> 02:33:58,950
like gangbusters. Thank you stay
safe or to D to karma please. V

2590
02:33:58,950 --> 02:33:59,970
RT Lee North

2591
02:34:02,130 --> 02:34:09,240
Adam Curry: you've got another
sequential donation from

2592
02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:13,530
Benjamin at ninja Atlanta,
Georgia. 34567 Thanks for

2593
02:34:13,530 --> 02:34:16,200
everything. No jingles no karma.
Thank you.

2594
02:34:17,970 --> 02:34:25,770
John C Dvorak: Ryan and tone new
and, and John knee and Tony Odie

2595
02:34:25,800 --> 02:34:31,230
and tinetti and to good good
try. He has it in Pembroke

2596
02:34:31,230 --> 02:34:39,330
Massachusetts. 333330. It says
right here and redhead does a

2597
02:34:39,330 --> 02:34:44,010
cheater. The executive producers
ship is a switcheroo for my

2598
02:34:44,010 --> 02:34:48,120
father mark. We work together
doing service work and spend

2599
02:34:48,120 --> 02:34:50,760
many hours in the truck
together. I put him into the

2600
02:34:50,760 --> 02:34:53,790
genre of the show a few months
ago, so we could listen to it

2601
02:34:53,790 --> 02:34:56,940
together and he loves that.
Nice. It's gotten to the point

2602
02:34:56,940 --> 02:34:59,970
where he asked me if I listened
to the new episode. Oh yeah. Now

2603
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:04,200
Look I have one question on
behalf of him he listens to Dan

2604
02:35:04,200 --> 02:35:07,710
bungee no use code bungee you
know at checkout he'd like to

2605
02:35:07,710 --> 02:35:10,290
know why you guys rip on why not

2606
02:35:11,639 --> 02:35:14,129
Adam Curry: use code bungee no
doesn't that say enough Have

2607
02:35:14,130 --> 02:35:18,060
John C Dvorak: you listened to
bungee no enough? Who me I mean

2608
02:35:18,060 --> 02:35:21,060
I like I've listened to by Gino
showing when I can when I hear

2609
02:35:21,060 --> 02:35:24,660
it if I'm in the car and I it's
a good show it's okay he's a

2610
02:35:24,660 --> 02:35:29,550
little bit he spun up that's why
I spun up exactly that he spun

2611
02:35:29,550 --> 02:35:33,570
up he's all knows a little much
a little much too much too much

2612
02:35:33,570 --> 02:35:36,810
is too damn radio stuff but a
little much on the spot up.

2613
02:35:37,620 --> 02:35:40,170
Anyways, thanks for all you do
the entertainments excellent we

2614
02:35:40,170 --> 02:35:42,540
always have a laugh listening to
the best podcast in the

2615
02:35:42,540 --> 02:35:46,650
universe. Thank you for your
courage. Brian and to Nettie

2616
02:35:46,920 --> 02:35:47,160
Thank

2617
02:35:47,160 --> 02:35:51,270
Adam Curry: you Ryan and Mark
Thank you very much sir low be

2618
02:35:51,270 --> 02:35:56,130
Windsor Berkshire. Joe That's
the UK is 333 33 As promised,

2619
02:35:56,190 --> 02:36:00,090
I've donated 333 dot 33 To the
best podcast in the universe

2620
02:36:00,090 --> 02:36:02,760
could I request the following
jingles please Biden whole load?

2621
02:36:03,090 --> 02:36:09,270
F the EU and little girl yeah
and a D douchey. Ben de deuced

2622
02:36:10,950 --> 02:36:14,850
also request a title change as
JC de never says my original

2623
02:36:14,850 --> 02:36:19,560
night name. Sir elongated G
string a title I took as a lover

2624
02:36:19,560 --> 02:36:22,650
of the bass guitar when I've
donated in the past could I now

2625
02:36:22,650 --> 02:36:27,840
be known as Sir low be done? And
hope this satisfies Mr. Devore X

2626
02:36:27,840 --> 02:36:35,430
base name phobia Many. Many
thanks, sir. Low B. I'm gonna

2627
02:36:35,460 --> 02:36:37,050
give you the whole load today

2628
02:36:43,770 --> 02:36:46,830
John C Dvorak: and you got it.
There it is William Alston in El

2629
02:36:46,830 --> 02:36:49,290
Paso, Texas. 33333

2630
02:36:49,500 --> 02:36:50,850
Adam Curry: New Year many
migrants?

2631
02:36:52,050 --> 02:36:54,600
John C Dvorak: I bet. Happy New
Year none of them listen to the

2632
02:36:54,600 --> 02:37:00,870
show. Ox health karma for all of
us appreciating the extra gifts

2633
02:37:02,100 --> 02:37:05,520
from family gatherings. I
personally picked up a cold from

2634
02:37:05,520 --> 02:37:10,680
my niece and nephews while
visiting over Christmas. Now

2635
02:37:10,680 --> 02:37:13,830
sorry to hear that. It's not
good. I just had a thought.

2636
02:37:15,180 --> 02:37:18,210
Adam Curry: Maybe we should have
fliers at the border. Say

2637
02:37:18,210 --> 02:37:22,860
Welcome to America. Listen to
the no agenda show for your bad

2638
02:37:22,860 --> 02:37:26,970
idea for your instructions. To
learn how this country works

2639
02:37:26,970 --> 02:37:27,750
listen to the no

2640
02:37:27,750 --> 02:37:30,270
John C Dvorak: idea the latest
thing in a Mexican channel down

2641
02:37:30,270 --> 02:37:35,280
in San Diego supposedly this is
just verification this is going

2642
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:38,250
on. But it makes sense.
immigrants coming into

2643
02:37:38,250 --> 02:37:40,650
California given $2,200

2644
02:37:40,680 --> 02:37:42,900
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. And they go
out of the country come back

2645
02:37:42,900 --> 02:37:45,210
again for another 2200 It's
called loot. Yeah.

2646
02:37:45,210 --> 02:37:49,620
John C Dvorak: And they've been
doing it. They make like eight

2647
02:37:50,100 --> 02:37:53,910
8008 88800 a month. We're going
in and out four times. Yep. Yep.

2648
02:37:53,940 --> 02:37:56,370
And they've been doing this.
It's like that's their job now.

2649
02:37:58,860 --> 02:38:00,090
Yeah, I don't know if it's true,

2650
02:38:00,210 --> 02:38:04,200
Adam Curry: but a universal
basic income is coming. Yep.

2651
02:38:04,230 --> 02:38:08,160
Welcome to America. Listen to
the no agenda show wherever you

2652
02:38:08,160 --> 02:38:18,150
get your podcasts. Rene
Bernards, Greta St. Gallen in

2653
02:38:18,150 --> 02:38:22,710
Switzerland. 333. Thank you both
for the critical entertaining

2654
02:38:22,740 --> 02:38:26,310
and funny News Analysis. Have a
nice new year celebration and a

2655
02:38:26,310 --> 02:38:29,310
good start into January. That's
right. We're running through the

2656
02:38:29,310 --> 02:38:32,700
tape straight into 2024 We ain't
looking back.

2657
02:38:33,420 --> 02:38:35,310
John C Dvorak: Zachary
Montgomery is not looking back.

2658
02:38:35,310 --> 02:38:40,680
He's in Kannapolis North
Carolina. Big Donut Day this

2659
02:38:40,680 --> 02:38:43,710
donation brings me the
knighthood night Mr. Space

2660
02:38:43,710 --> 02:38:48,570
daddy. Big thanks to Sir tech
Titian of the fresh coast and

2661
02:38:49,080 --> 02:38:54,480
Brian. People go to na meetups
comm stop at Ed's Tavern in

2662
02:38:54,480 --> 02:38:58,620
Charlotte for the monthly
thirsty Third Thursday meet up

2663
02:38:59,940 --> 02:39:06,930
yeah please call out John as an
extra mega douche also call up

2664
02:39:06,930 --> 02:39:12,960
cat I'll call out Callum as a
douchebag business karma for our

2665
02:39:12,960 --> 02:39:17,850
real estate investment company
much love peace. Well you've

2666
02:39:17,850 --> 02:39:19,830
Adam Curry: you need that kind
of karma. We're gonna have to

2667
02:39:19,830 --> 02:39:28,680
add a goat you've got karma
Alright, so laborious Kerner

2668
02:39:28,680 --> 02:39:32,370
from honey Brook Pennsylvania is
our first Associate Executive

2669
02:39:32,370 --> 02:39:38,160
Producer and he's cute 202 dot
forro from startup packages.com

2670
02:39:38,340 --> 02:39:41,850
All founders and producers who
need a new logo on website go to

2671
02:39:41,850 --> 02:39:46,230
startup packages.com to get a
design jumpstart on your brand's

2672
02:39:46,230 --> 02:39:52,740
journey in 2020 for US Code been
Gino. Tell us you heard about

2673
02:39:52,740 --> 02:39:57,390
it. I know agenda for 24% off.
All right jobs karma with a

2674
02:39:57,390 --> 02:39:57,720
ghost

2675
02:39:57,750 --> 02:40:02,820
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs. Have
any jobs that's Volker jobs

2676
02:40:07,859 --> 02:40:10,319
John C Dvorak: sir Jeff comes in
with the best note from

2677
02:40:10,319 --> 02:40:15,779
Bethlehem Pennsylvania 202 23
Happy New Year. Sir Jeff of

2678
02:40:15,779 --> 02:40:18,329
Pennsylvania route 33 One

2679
02:40:18,330 --> 02:40:21,900
Adam Curry: of the best one of
the best for sure. And we go to

2680
02:40:21,900 --> 02:40:26,070
Sir Luca Walla Walla, Washington
20202 Nice belated Merry

2681
02:40:26,070 --> 02:40:28,800
Christmas Happy New Year fellas
thank you for another year of

2682
02:40:28,800 --> 02:40:32,220
media deconstruction double
karma request here health karma

2683
02:40:32,220 --> 02:40:37,650
the Yak variety and a T P P jobs
karma sir Luca de se well okay

2684
02:40:37,650 --> 02:40:44,010
because you sir Luca we love you
you've got karma

2685
02:40:50,010 --> 02:40:54,420
John C Dvorak: karma and finally
we got Linda Lou Pak and your

2686
02:40:54,420 --> 02:40:57,600
friend in Lakewood, Colorado
always comes in with asking for

2687
02:40:57,600 --> 02:41:00,780
jobs Carmen she wants to tell
you that for a resume that gets

2688
02:41:00,780 --> 02:41:04,950
results go to Image makers
inc.com. For all your executive

2689
02:41:04,950 --> 02:41:09,600
resume needs and job search
needs is that image makers is

2690
02:41:09,600 --> 02:41:14,010
equal to K image makers Inc with
a K. Or just fine Linda Lou

2691
02:41:14,010 --> 02:41:17,730
patcon on the producer list.
She's up there have a happy and

2692
02:41:17,730 --> 02:41:19,800
healthy New Year jobs,

2693
02:41:19,950 --> 02:41:24,150
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

2694
02:41:26,550 --> 02:41:28,500
Adam Curry: All right, executive
and Associate Executive

2695
02:41:28,500 --> 02:41:31,920
Producers Thank you these titles
are read these credits are real.

2696
02:41:31,920 --> 02:41:34,950
So you have these titles exec or
Associate Executive Producer of

2697
02:41:34,950 --> 02:41:39,210
episode 1621. You can use them
anywhere credits are recognized,

2698
02:41:39,210 --> 02:41:42,240
which is a global thing. And you
really can use it everywhere.

2699
02:41:43,260 --> 02:41:45,750
Which would mean you could put
on your LinkedIn put it on your

2700
02:41:45,750 --> 02:41:48,900
resume or go to imdb.com or
start one even you can

2701
02:41:48,900 --> 02:41:52,980
start@imdb.com profile with that
and add to it as you go along.

2702
02:41:53,250 --> 02:41:58,530
Collect all 60 Thank you to
everyone who came in under $50.

2703
02:41:58,590 --> 02:42:01,350
That is usually for reasons of
anonymity. If you're at the 49

2704
02:42:01,350 --> 02:42:05,370
or 4999 level we see you there
we appreciate you we do read any

2705
02:42:05,370 --> 02:42:08,520
notes personally if you send
them so we do see it not many

2706
02:42:08,520 --> 02:42:12,900
people do. And of course we have
the sustaining donations which

2707
02:42:12,900 --> 02:42:15,660
you can make up yourself. We
have a couple of suggestions at

2708
02:42:15,660 --> 02:42:22,110
no agenda donations.com or
vora.org/and A we've got meetups

2709
02:42:22,110 --> 02:42:24,540
and igniting and more coming and
John will take us through to the

2710
02:42:24,540 --> 02:42:25,440
50s

2711
02:42:26,130 --> 02:42:28,440
John C Dvorak: Yeah, starting
with Blake Thomas out of Kansas

2712
02:42:28,440 --> 02:42:32,310
City who went to a sumo
tournament in November that was

2713
02:42:32,310 --> 02:42:35,940
the big November tournament
$157.57 He sent us some

2714
02:42:35,940 --> 02:42:41,760
pictures, top notch heating and
I guess it says and air

2715
02:42:41,760 --> 02:42:44,760
conditioning a veteran Manti
Utah you might want to check

2716
02:42:44,760 --> 02:42:52,980
them out. $155.55 Kim Winship
127 17. John Taylor, is 127 17.

2717
02:42:53,310 --> 02:42:57,240
Daniel this the one two threes,
by the way, that have been added

2718
02:42:57,240 --> 02:43:01,980
the extra money good. All right,
John. John Taylor, Daniel Mudge

2719
02:43:01,980 --> 02:43:08,940
127 17, Sarah Gardner, Dame
Sarah 127 17 Derrick Chanel

2720
02:43:08,940 --> 02:43:15,720
127 17. And now we have Trent
March and Maine Ville, Ohio. One

2721
02:43:15,720 --> 02:43:26,460
Two 3.45 needs a D douching. Chi
deuced. Probably some F cancer

2722
02:43:26,460 --> 02:43:29,280
karma at the end would be
appropriate. I'll do it for

2723
02:43:29,280 --> 02:43:35,370
sure. Shelly? Winky. Winky.
Winky. Winky Winky in fortwayne

2724
02:43:35,400 --> 02:43:42,480
One, two 3.23 Sir Brian Tobias
and in Gardner, Kansas 123 18.

2725
02:43:44,280 --> 02:43:50,730
Cliff, Greg Clifton in Morgan
field, Kentucky 123 12. And now

2726
02:43:50,730 --> 02:43:55,500
here's the pure one, two threes
including short quirky and Ooo.

2727
02:43:55,980 --> 02:44:03,090
Florida. 1231. Steven reverse
123. Paxton Sanders 123. James

2728
02:44:03,090 --> 02:44:09,300
little 123 if we got enough of
these yesterday, Dame Dane a

2729
02:44:09,300 --> 02:44:17,820
123. Sir Tooth Fairy 123 Sir DC
123. Sir Chad Ferro, I can just

2730
02:44:17,820 --> 02:44:20,430
name these names, just names and
locations. Whatever we have left

2731
02:44:20,430 --> 02:44:24,480
Chad Farrell. 123 No jeans, no
camera? Of course not. Sir.

2732
02:44:24,480 --> 02:44:30,150
crashy MTR buddy says Happy New
Year and that's the end of the

2733
02:44:30,150 --> 02:44:35,250
one two threes. Okay. Aaron
alanda reveal Brandon Florida

2734
02:44:35,250 --> 02:44:42,660
111 11 Sebastian, this big
hitter. 808 And I'm sorry, 8.88.

2735
02:44:42,810 --> 02:44:48,270
Because here's the 808 from
Kevin McLaughlin. 808 Archduke

2736
02:44:48,270 --> 02:44:54,540
of Luna lover of American boobs.
Sir Eric 808 and Punta Gorda.

2737
02:44:55,530 --> 02:45:00,330
Gary Blatt in Chesterbrook,
Pennsylvania, seven, seven Seven

2738
02:45:00,330 --> 02:45:08,280
seven sure in getti in play, so
play so free I play so Pele's

2739
02:45:08,310 --> 02:45:16,080
Pele so means palace of water
7746 and in France, one of our

2740
02:45:16,080 --> 02:45:20,640
few Frenchmen actually listen to
the show. Yeah. Because they get

2741
02:45:20,670 --> 02:45:24,270
they get good news in France,
Raleigh hawk and Anna Illinois

2742
02:45:24,270 --> 02:45:31,260
6969. Sir becoming heroic, in
Scharer Ville, Indiana 6886,

2743
02:45:31,260 --> 02:45:35,520
which is jiggly boobs. Craig
Kohler in Evansville, Indiana.

2744
02:45:35,520 --> 02:45:42,390
50 6502, which is a chip by the
way, early chip, the Apple two

2745
02:45:42,390 --> 02:45:48,420
had a 6502 in it. Jamie Buell in
Vista, California 606 small

2746
02:45:48,420 --> 02:45:51,870
boobs, according to Kevin
McLaughlin, who's back again

2747
02:45:51,870 --> 02:46:00,240
with 606 Sarah Koenig guard in
Middleton, Idaho, 60 Peter Chung

2748
02:46:00,240 --> 02:46:05,520
in Lakewood, Washington. 5510
Sir Chris and sexy is it sexy?

2749
02:46:05,940 --> 02:46:14,010
Texas 5333. He is the protector
of psychotic sausage dogs, which

2750
02:46:14,010 --> 02:46:18,330
is all of them. Yeah. Justin
Kaler, Bluffton, Indiana 59 We

2751
02:46:18,330 --> 02:46:20,970
finally got to the 50s and I'm
gonna read through these it will

2752
02:46:20,970 --> 02:46:25,080
be done. Justin Kaler in
Bluffton Ray Howard in

2753
02:46:25,080 --> 02:46:30,030
Kremmling, Colorado, David
Steele in Mobile, Alabama, Kyle

2754
02:46:30,030 --> 02:46:34,290
mon in Cincinnati, Ohio, Brandon
Laughlin and Sugar Hill,

2755
02:46:34,290 --> 02:46:41,160
Georgia. Ryan sharp in
Huntsville, Alabama. Julie Mina.

2756
02:46:41,520 --> 02:46:49,260
Mina Dale Mineo Mina Davao is
Costa Mesa con Dan back in

2757
02:46:49,260 --> 02:46:57,780
Neumann Noonan known in our
nooner Holland Justin Heiner in

2758
02:46:57,780 --> 02:47:04,320
vine Grove Kentucky dotted mind
in Lincoln UK Tony Tony Lange in

2759
02:47:04,320 --> 02:47:09,090
Castle Pines, Colorado Adam
Fitch in Albany, Ohio needs a D

2760
02:47:09,090 --> 02:47:16,890
douching. You've been de deuced
David Hudson in Lombard Illinois

2761
02:47:16,890 --> 02:47:22,350
and last on our list. Good list
63 of them actually. Lisa

2762
02:47:22,350 --> 02:47:25,980
Schoonover in Kansas City
Missouri want to thank these

2763
02:47:25,980 --> 02:47:30,870
folks are making show 1621 The
last show of 2023

2764
02:47:30,900 --> 02:47:31,410
Adam Curry: Yes

2765
02:47:31,470 --> 02:47:32,340
John C Dvorak: a good show

2766
02:47:32,370 --> 02:47:35,160
Adam Curry: thank you all so
much we appreciate the value you

2767
02:47:35,160 --> 02:47:39,270
sent back it is it is really
appreciated and also for those

2768
02:47:39,270 --> 02:47:41,730
who give their time and their
talent thank you all for making

2769
02:47:41,730 --> 02:47:45,540
the show reality we love it we
probably couldn't do much else

2770
02:47:45,540 --> 02:47:49,110
in life there's no other job we
can have except executive

2771
02:47:49,110 --> 02:47:52,860
produced the Jonas Brothers
that's on deck for executive

2772
02:47:52,860 --> 02:47:56,040
strategy thank you again for
becoming producers here of the

2773
02:47:56,040 --> 02:47:58,530
no agenda show our formula

2774
02:47:58,530 --> 02:48:02,430
Unknown: is this people in the
mouth

2775
02:48:14,640 --> 02:48:21,990
and the cancer has requested
you've got karma

2776
02:48:30,510 --> 02:48:33,570
Adam Curry: we do have a couple
of birthdays to celebrate sir DC

2777
02:48:33,570 --> 02:48:36,810
wishes as human resource a very
happy birthday we'll turn to

2778
02:48:36,810 --> 02:48:41,550
actually church to today, sir
and getting celebrates today.

2779
02:48:41,640 --> 02:48:44,610
Sir Eric wishes Dame Rachel
Happy Birthday trend marches

2780
02:48:44,610 --> 02:48:47,580
celebrating and I'd like to say
happy birthday to my sister

2781
02:48:47,580 --> 02:48:50,760
Tiffany who celebrates on
January 1 Happy birthday for

2782
02:48:50,760 --> 02:48:53,130
everybody here's the best
podcast in the universe

2783
02:49:02,220 --> 02:49:07,260
don't want to be introduced. We
have a title change game Amy as

2784
02:49:07,260 --> 02:49:12,300
upgraded she becomes a Baroness
who bareness Amy of FEMA Region

2785
02:49:12,300 --> 02:49:15,390
number five. Thank you very much
Baroness. Amy. We appreciate you

2786
02:49:15,390 --> 02:49:20,970
so much. We have Jay Parker who
was about to be knighted. And I

2787
02:49:20,970 --> 02:49:25,380
have a note from him he came in
sir he came in with a completing

2788
02:49:25,380 --> 02:49:29,880
donation is night name will be
certeyn certainly consistent,

2789
02:49:29,880 --> 02:49:34,200
certainly consistent. No jingles
no karma total donations over

2790
02:49:34,200 --> 02:49:36,690
1100 40 by subscription. I
followed you guys since the

2791
02:49:36,690 --> 02:49:40,230
early two hundreds or so. Wow.
Been round brother. I stopped

2792
02:49:40,230 --> 02:49:43,560
listening for a few years. I was
just busy and I was young. And

2793
02:49:43,560 --> 02:49:47,070
once I came back I donated to
every episode since Thank you

2794
02:49:47,070 --> 02:49:50,040
very much John and Adam and all
the producers and dudes named

2795
02:49:50,040 --> 02:49:53,280
Ben and dudettes named
Bernadette as well as a big

2796
02:49:53,280 --> 02:49:56,400
thanks to the Keepers for
keeping these boys going. Thank

2797
02:49:56,400 --> 02:49:59,100
you very much for too many eggs
too many eggs.com and please

2798
02:49:59,100 --> 02:50:03,360
please please, John. finish that
vinegar book, round table just

2799
02:50:03,360 --> 02:50:08,250
the good old mutton in Mead. And
before we go to our knighting I

2800
02:50:08,250 --> 02:50:13,200
got a note from a Kaz T. Who
became a daemon she's very mad

2801
02:50:13,200 --> 02:50:19,740
at me. So it's a very very angry
note there are no Dame rings

2802
02:50:21,000 --> 02:50:24,660
dame's are only allowed to get
night rings please stop

2803
02:50:24,660 --> 02:50:28,080
misleading us. I was rather
disappointed to be misgendered

2804
02:50:28,080 --> 02:50:35,940
by no agenda well alright what
yes because she she said how

2805
02:50:35,940 --> 02:50:39,270
come my ring doesn't say Dame on
it on the rings don't say night

2806
02:50:39,270 --> 02:50:40,110
either. Do they?

2807
02:50:40,890 --> 02:50:42,300
John C Dvorak: Not that I know
of now.

2808
02:50:42,570 --> 02:50:45,480
Adam Curry: She feels she wants
a dainty little Dame ring. Like

2809
02:50:45,630 --> 02:50:49,950
that's insulting to the dames.
Have you seen the royalty? Have

2810
02:50:49,950 --> 02:50:53,280
you seen the rocks and the end
and the big bands that the Queen

2811
02:50:53,280 --> 02:50:58,530
has? Yeah Nobody wears a little
dainty T ring and we we want you

2812
02:50:58,530 --> 02:51:02,010
to be of equal value as the
Knights which you are so I'm

2813
02:51:02,010 --> 02:51:06,030
sorry you felt misgendered but I
just died just I just rejected

2814
02:51:06,090 --> 02:51:06,720
rejected

2815
02:51:09,060 --> 02:51:10,800
John C Dvorak: so there's you're
not having another ring

2816
02:51:10,800 --> 02:51:11,430
designed?

2817
02:51:13,470 --> 02:51:15,570
Adam Curry: Bring out their
blade. The big one. The big one.

2818
02:51:16,770 --> 02:51:19,680
The big one for the dudes. There
we go. Jay Parker up on the

2819
02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:25,620
podium sir. Zachary Montgomery
both of you have qualified to

2820
02:51:25,620 --> 02:51:28,410
become knights of the no agenda
roundtable you can select a dame

2821
02:51:28,410 --> 02:51:32,280
ring if you want. But why don't
I just get on with the ceremony

2822
02:51:32,280 --> 02:51:36,690
and very proud to pronounce Kate
the and Lee consistent. And Sir

2823
02:51:36,870 --> 02:51:40,380
face that as both of you are
welcome. Here at the roundtable.

2824
02:51:40,380 --> 02:51:43,050
We've got hookers and blow rent
boys and Chardonnay. We have

2825
02:51:43,050 --> 02:51:46,530
some fishpond, fellatio, Polish
potato vodka. We got diet soda

2826
02:51:46,530 --> 02:51:49,350
and video games. We got to
Heartless in hell doll redheads

2827
02:51:49,470 --> 02:51:53,280
rise organic macaroni and
plasticizers sparkling cider

2828
02:51:53,280 --> 02:51:55,830
escorts bong hits and bourbon
ginger ale ginger ale and

2829
02:51:55,830 --> 02:52:00,120
Jerboas breast milk and Pablo
man as requested lots of extra

2830
02:52:00,120 --> 02:52:04,620
mutton and meat beautiful. Go to
no agenda rings.com And you can

2831
02:52:04,620 --> 02:52:08,280
select from the night and day MB
rings. Yeah, they're the same.

2832
02:52:08,280 --> 02:52:12,570
But it's it's in the eye of the
beholder and the where it is a

2833
02:52:12,570 --> 02:52:15,000
signet ring. So when you hit
someone in the mouth, it'll

2834
02:52:15,000 --> 02:52:18,000
leave a lasting impression. And
you can also use that to seal

2835
02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:21,000
your important correspondence
with the provided sealing wax

2836
02:52:21,030 --> 02:52:23,550
and a certificate of
authenticity. And thank you

2837
02:52:23,550 --> 02:52:26,070
again for supporting the best
podcasts in university or no

2838
02:52:26,070 --> 02:52:26,820
agenda show.

2839
02:52:36,420 --> 02:52:41,220
As we discussed 2024 should be a
very interesting year. So you

2840
02:52:41,220 --> 02:52:45,120
want to have your community you
want to know where people are

2841
02:52:45,120 --> 02:52:50,610
that you can trust on. You can
support one another and support

2842
02:52:50,610 --> 02:52:53,700
each other towards love and good
deeds together. You know, and

2843
02:52:53,700 --> 02:52:56,970
you've got to continue meeting
together this is a habit that

2844
02:52:57,090 --> 02:53:00,750
you need to need to get you need
to do it get into the habit of

2845
02:53:00,750 --> 02:53:03,510
going to this meetups and
encourage is my word for this

2846
02:53:03,510 --> 02:53:07,020
year encouragement. I'm going to
encourage everybody to do things

2847
02:53:07,020 --> 02:53:10,890
and one of those is going to the
meetup. You won't regret it.

2848
02:53:10,890 --> 02:53:15,090
It's kind of the companion to
the show. And anyway if you hate

2849
02:53:15,090 --> 02:53:18,270
your dad in the mouth, bring him
to a meet up. We got lots of

2850
02:53:18,510 --> 02:53:21,480
producers who bring their
parents it's it's fun, and we've

2851
02:53:21,480 --> 02:53:24,510
got younger parents who bring
their human resources. It

2852
02:53:24,510 --> 02:53:27,240
doesn't matter where you're from
what your upbringing is you will

2853
02:53:27,240 --> 02:53:31,470
find your crew you will find
your community your family at a

2854
02:53:31,470 --> 02:53:34,980
no agenda meetup Take for
example the frozen hellscape

2855
02:53:34,980 --> 02:53:36,180
meet up here's a report

2856
02:53:36,840 --> 02:53:40,740
Unknown: this is sir are here
and Hayward Wisconsin at the not

2857
02:53:40,740 --> 02:53:46,650
so frozen hellscape meet up
chill evening. I am here with

2858
02:53:47,640 --> 02:53:50,760
this is Lauren. Thank you for
your courage. First

2859
02:53:50,760 --> 02:53:53,160
time meet up Have a great day.

2860
02:53:54,330 --> 02:53:58,080
Adam Curry: So first time meet
up he met somebody even though

2861
02:53:58,080 --> 02:54:00,450
it was just one that's how they
start up before you know you've

2862
02:54:00,450 --> 02:54:03,780
got a KC meet up. Hey,

2863
02:54:03,810 --> 02:54:09,600
Unknown: Mitch peace and we here
at 403 pinball game room. I came

2864
02:54:09,600 --> 02:54:13,590
here thinking I was going to win
and on. But it ain't looking too

2865
02:54:13,590 --> 02:54:14,100
good

2866
02:54:14,190 --> 02:54:18,690
pillows Lee. I'm the reason why
she is losing because I'm the

2867
02:54:18,690 --> 02:54:19,020
winner.

2868
02:54:20,550 --> 02:54:24,150
In the morning, guys, this is
pinball gypsy. This is the first

2869
02:54:24,150 --> 02:54:28,470
meetup I've been to in Kansas
City was down at one in Austin

2870
02:54:28,500 --> 02:54:32,340
and this was awesome and amazing
time because I ruined

2871
02:54:32,340 --> 02:54:33,000
everything.

2872
02:54:33,150 --> 02:54:35,340
So it's been a while for Kansas
City here my New Year's

2873
02:54:35,340 --> 02:54:39,660
resolution, more KC meetups and
2024 Greetings,

2874
02:54:39,660 --> 02:54:43,440
no agenda community. We wish you
the best from chiefs kingdom.

2875
02:54:43,830 --> 02:54:46,650
This meetup was an app but
definitely not a scam. Kyle from

2876
02:54:46,650 --> 02:54:49,350
Omaha here at the limpers
pinball beat up at Kansas City.

2877
02:54:50,310 --> 02:54:56,640
Johnny What was your favorite
pinball game? You liked the

2878
02:54:56,640 --> 02:55:00,360
Godzilla game. Can you say in
the morning you Get a

2879
02:55:04,890 --> 02:55:06,990
Adam Curry: gypsy that is
actually I follow her on no

2880
02:55:06,990 --> 02:55:09,930
agenda social. She always is
putting up her pinball scores of

2881
02:55:09,930 --> 02:55:12,660
different pinball machines she
plays. He's quite interesting.

2882
02:55:13,680 --> 02:55:16,650
We got to meet up. A meet up
happening tomorrow. Actually,

2883
02:55:16,650 --> 02:55:19,680
there's the BVI Shut up, slave
New Year's Day meet up that'll

2884
02:55:19,680 --> 02:55:24,810
be in Tortola Virgin Islands at
smuggler's Cove. Go to Nigel's

2885
02:55:24,810 --> 02:55:27,840
boom, boom, boom beach bar. You
know what's going on there and

2886
02:55:27,840 --> 02:55:31,800
I'm saying, I'm looking forward
to a report from you guys. On

2887
02:55:31,800 --> 02:55:34,380
the fourth of January. That's
next Thursday. Our next show day

2888
02:55:34,380 --> 02:55:37,590
five forks first Thursday, no
agenda meet up six o'clock at

2889
02:55:37,590 --> 02:55:40,380
bol winkels. Tavern in
Simpsonville, South Carolina,

2890
02:55:40,620 --> 02:55:43,620
and the Mile High meetup takes
place in Denver, Colorado at

2891
02:55:43,620 --> 02:55:46,410
Lincoln's Roadhouse there's many
more to come throughout the

2892
02:55:46,410 --> 02:55:50,490
month of January, February,
April on their march should

2893
02:55:50,490 --> 02:55:53,070
probably be filling up pretty
soon. Again, connection is

2894
02:55:53,070 --> 02:55:56,010
protection. This is where you
need to go for your for your

2895
02:55:56,010 --> 02:55:59,040
family, for your community. For
your crowd for your crew, no

2896
02:55:59,040 --> 02:56:02,370
agenda meetups go to no agenda
meet ups.com If you can't find a

2897
02:56:02,370 --> 02:56:05,250
meet up on that list near you.
Why don't you start one yourself

2898
02:56:05,250 --> 02:56:07,290
it's easy and always guaranteed
a party

2899
02:56:11,850 --> 02:56:17,520
Unknown: nice day you won't be

2900
02:56:23,100 --> 02:56:32,160
Adam Curry: safe is like a party
I'm sorry, I only have one ISO

2901
02:56:32,160 --> 02:56:35,730
and I don't think it's very
good. I only have one oh, this

2902
02:56:35,730 --> 02:56:39,330
is uh this is this is bad. This
is bad. This were a random

2903
02:56:39,330 --> 02:56:41,070
John C Dvorak: number that
happens all the time to us.

2904
02:56:41,130 --> 02:56:41,580
Alright, so

2905
02:56:41,580 --> 02:56:44,430
Adam Curry: I play mine first.
Yeah, sure. Thoughts. Such a

2906
02:56:44,430 --> 02:56:47,400
silly thing. See, I told you
sucks sucks.

2907
02:56:48,540 --> 02:56:51,180
John C Dvorak: Well, I got is
seriously seriously.

2908
02:56:51,900 --> 02:56:54,240
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Is that all
we got?

2909
02:56:55,950 --> 02:56:58,890
John C Dvorak: It's time to go
into the archives and pick a

2910
02:56:58,890 --> 02:57:03,870
classic classic to shop and
finish

2911
02:57:09,420 --> 02:57:11,970
I don't know what he's saying.
That's what I'm concerned about.

2912
02:57:12,000 --> 02:57:12,150
Oh,

2913
02:57:12,150 --> 02:57:14,730
Adam Curry: let's do it. Let's
live dangerously. Who cares? We

2914
02:57:14,730 --> 02:57:19,470
can do it. We can do this. We
can do this. News. Everyone is

2915
02:57:19,470 --> 02:57:22,950
right. We will leave the old
year and enter the new was some

2916
02:57:22,950 --> 02:57:26,100
good news. John once again has
selected something that Mimi

2917
02:57:26,490 --> 02:57:29,790
pines over in between taking
care of all the dogs in the

2918
02:57:29,790 --> 02:57:30,420
kennel.

2919
02:57:30,600 --> 02:57:34,140
John C Dvorak: Okay, here we go.
Now this one is Deb, you're

2920
02:57:34,140 --> 02:57:38,310
going to this two minutes right
on the money. Okay. Cut down

2921
02:57:38,310 --> 02:57:39,120
from four.

2922
02:57:39,180 --> 02:57:40,620
Adam Curry: Oh goodness, local
Report. I

2923
02:57:40,620 --> 02:57:42,990
John C Dvorak: hope you've got
obviously here we go.

2924
02:57:43,050 --> 02:57:45,660
Unknown: A Goodwill store
changed the lives of two local

2925
02:57:45,660 --> 02:57:49,440
families to a shared memory card
from a camera. Originally from

2926
02:57:49,440 --> 02:57:53,100
Chesterfield, Jordan, Vermont is
a senior at Mizzou studying

2927
02:57:53,100 --> 02:57:56,190
education and as a self
proclaimed amateur photographer.

2928
02:57:56,340 --> 02:57:59,280
This is the goodwill in
Manchester where it all started.

2929
02:57:59,490 --> 02:58:02,640
Jordan and Sharon, Vermont, her
mother decided to go shopping

2930
02:58:02,640 --> 02:58:05,610
during Thanksgiving break for
Jordan from Mizzou. She asked

2931
02:58:05,610 --> 02:58:08,130
her mom if she could buy a
camera that was more than 20

2932
02:58:08,130 --> 02:58:10,290
years old for the technology
section.

2933
02:58:10,380 --> 02:58:13,860
And when we got home, she said,
Mom, there's a memory card in

2934
02:58:13,860 --> 02:58:17,250
here. And I said, Oh, I hope
that people didn't leave

2935
02:58:17,250 --> 02:58:19,200
pictures on that. I wonder
what's on there. And

2936
02:58:19,290 --> 02:58:23,850
it was full of someone's family
photos from 2009. Jordan said

2937
02:58:23,850 --> 02:58:26,430
she wanted to send these
pictures to whomever they belong

2938
02:58:26,430 --> 02:58:30,780
to. So Sharon posted on Facebook
asking if anyone knew these

2939
02:58:30,780 --> 02:58:32,460
people, therefore 2009.

2940
02:58:32,460 --> 02:58:35,010
So I didn't know if some of the
people in the photos weren't

2941
02:58:35,010 --> 02:58:36,030
around anymore.

2942
02:58:36,060 --> 02:58:40,890
Jordan was right. My dad has
been gone for five years. And

2943
02:58:40,890 --> 02:58:45,660
yeah, very sad. And my aunt
passed away. Two years ago, Pat

2944
02:58:45,660 --> 02:58:49,590
and her husband Phil bought the
camera back in 2001. After

2945
02:58:49,590 --> 02:58:52,380
cleaning out their basement in
Manchester, they donated it to

2946
02:58:52,380 --> 02:58:54,870
Goodwill in November. I lost my

2947
02:58:54,870 --> 02:58:58,320
mom, three years ago, and I just
was thinking, you know, if

2948
02:58:58,320 --> 02:59:01,140
somebody had found pictures of
her, I mean, I would be so

2949
02:59:01,140 --> 02:59:01,860
grateful to get

2950
02:59:02,460 --> 02:59:05,880
as was Pat who bumped into a
friend she hadn't seen in 10

2951
02:59:05,880 --> 02:59:08,490
years at a local craft show.
Then

2952
02:59:08,520 --> 02:59:12,090
two days later, I get a text
from her saying Is this your

2953
02:59:12,090 --> 02:59:16,320
family? And I'm like, Oh my
gosh, yes, it is my family.

2954
02:59:16,980 --> 02:59:20,490
Social media, bringing together
total strangers.

2955
02:59:20,520 --> 02:59:23,370
I definitely magical and like I
said very exciting and just

2956
02:59:23,520 --> 02:59:26,580
crazy. I mean, it's such a
small, small world. It really is

2957
02:59:26,610 --> 02:59:27,990
a small place because she

2958
02:59:28,200 --> 02:59:32,400
thinks of other people more than
herself. And she was the one who

2959
02:59:32,400 --> 02:59:35,280
said mom we have to try to find
out whose pictures they are and

2960
02:59:35,580 --> 02:59:38,130
that just showed me what a
beautiful soul my daughter has

2961
02:59:38,700 --> 02:59:38,910
been.

2962
02:59:41,010 --> 02:59:42,990
Reporting in Manchester any
crawl.

2963
02:59:43,080 --> 02:59:48,480
Adam Curry: Ah, that's nice.
That's that is good news. I like

2964
02:59:48,480 --> 02:59:52,050
that is finding old pictures.
Voices from the grave. What

2965
02:59:52,050 --> 02:59:52,680
Unknown: do we want?

2966
02:59:54,150 --> 02:59:59,970
Adam Curry: When do we want it
now? Your final good news.

2967
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,700
Everybody, your final good news
of 2023. And I think it was a

2968
03:00:05,700 --> 03:00:10,050
good year. Yeah, it was crazy.
And people got all mad and spun

2969
03:00:10,050 --> 03:00:13,710
up. But doesn't matter. We had a
good time here no agenda.

2970
03:00:14,310 --> 03:00:17,370
John C Dvorak: And it was a
better year than 2022. Yes,

2971
03:00:17,370 --> 03:00:17,790
exactly.

2972
03:00:17,820 --> 03:00:20,010
Adam Curry: Oh, much better.
Hey, we were walking around. We

2973
03:00:20,010 --> 03:00:24,600
were free men and women again.
Thank you all so much. Wish you

2974
03:00:24,600 --> 03:00:31,740
a very, very happy new year. A
very lovely ending. For all of

2975
03:00:31,740 --> 03:00:34,080
you. Remember those oil balls.

2976
03:00:35,970 --> 03:00:38,460
John C Dvorak: And we'll have a
donut hole one of the two and

2977
03:00:38,460 --> 03:00:38,610
we'll

2978
03:00:38,610 --> 03:00:41,970
Adam Curry: ended up with some
end of show mixes from Professor

2979
03:00:41,970 --> 03:00:46,980
Jay Jay there and China. rxo.
And Drew steel. Thank you troll

2980
03:00:46,980 --> 03:00:49,560
room. We love you. We'll see you
on Thursday because even in the

2981
03:00:49,560 --> 03:00:52,830
new year, we'll kick it off
right we'll get started is going

2982
03:00:52,830 --> 03:00:55,680
to be a good one. It's going to
be a lot of fun. We'll all be

2983
03:00:55,680 --> 03:00:58,110
here for the ride. Coming to you
from the heart of the Texas Hill

2984
03:00:58,110 --> 03:01:00,450
Country and FEMA Region number
five in the morning, everybody.

2985
03:01:00,450 --> 03:01:01,230
I'm Adam curry.

2986
03:01:01,890 --> 03:01:04,050
John C Dvorak: In the northern
Silicon Valley am John C.

2987
03:01:04,050 --> 03:01:05,820
Dvorak. Happy

2988
03:01:05,820 --> 03:01:08,760
Adam Curry: New Year everybody.
Remember to stay tuned to the

2989
03:01:08,760 --> 03:01:13,680
stream. We got the Lotus effect
live to get you ready for New

2990
03:01:13,680 --> 03:01:17,580
Year's probably take you through
the countdown. Until next year,

2991
03:01:17,610 --> 03:01:23,850
adios mo foes who we who eat.
And such

2992
03:01:24,270 --> 03:01:26,460
Unknown: is the round of
competition that ultimately

2993
03:01:26,550 --> 03:01:29,070
determines your fate. The ladies
will have to demonstrate your

2994
03:01:29,070 --> 03:01:31,860
ability to answer a thought
provoking questions, especially

2995
03:01:31,860 --> 03:01:35,190
when the whole country is
watching. To begin with South

2996
03:01:35,190 --> 03:01:35,700
Carolina,

2997
03:01:35,910 --> 03:01:39,420
Nikki Haley is facing a barrage
of criticism. But for something

2998
03:01:39,420 --> 03:01:45,480
she didn't say. You know, Dr.
Beck, what caused the Civil War?

2999
03:01:45,930 --> 03:01:51,360
I personally believe did not
mention slavery.

3000
03:01:51,540 --> 03:01:52,680
What do you want me to say?

3001
03:01:53,910 --> 03:01:58,290
I personally believe and blamed
a democratic plant for the

3002
03:01:58,290 --> 03:02:06,180
question. And we will because
sama about that be committed.

3003
03:02:06,570 --> 03:02:10,140
What do you want me to say about
slavery? What was the cause of

3004
03:02:10,140 --> 03:02:17,070
the United States, South Africa
and we were like What do you

3005
03:02:17,070 --> 03:02:20,370
want me to say about slavery? So
we will be able to build up our

3006
03:02:20,370 --> 03:02:24,450
stature. Nikki Haley is facing a
barrage of criticism

3007
03:02:27,060 --> 03:02:30,510
especially when the whole
country is watching to begin

3008
03:02:30,600 --> 03:02:36,930
with South Carolina South
Carolina What do you want me to

3009
03:02:36,930 --> 03:02:39,360
say about slavery I personally
believe

3010
03:02:51,480 --> 03:03:00,690
got nothing on my face that's
what she was saying. I don't

3011
03:03:00,690 --> 03:03:06,930
follow mandate. I just looked
the other way. At least that's

3012
03:03:06,930 --> 03:03:13,440
what she was saying. That's what
she was saying. But I can't

3013
03:03:13,440 --> 03:03:19,410
breathe I can't start
quarantine. Like I got this

3014
03:03:19,410 --> 03:03:26,760
breed in my mind saying that a
fire doesn't come and say Say

3015
03:03:26,760 --> 03:03:38,520
Say Say say that Mexico mitigate
que que que se kid gonna hate

3016
03:03:38,520 --> 03:03:42,930
aka brain gray gray gray dress

3017
03:03:49,200 --> 03:03:58,290
sleeves and if I do is allergies
I'll see guess what they don't

3018
03:03:58,290 --> 03:04:04,290
see something is overblown. They
just make the rules up as they

3019
03:04:04,290 --> 03:04:08,100
go up as they go and they think
that we don't know

3020
03:04:09,360 --> 03:04:11,040
they think that we don't know

3021
03:04:12,180 --> 03:04:21,060
but I can't breathe I can't
start like God got this greed in

3022
03:04:21,060 --> 03:04:27,450
my mind without a fight because
the governmental say Say Say Say

3023
03:04:27,450 --> 03:04:30,810
say gay gay gay gay gay

3024
03:04:37,200 --> 03:04:47,610
Kerry's gonna take a break.
Great. Great, great, great thank

3025
03:04:47,610 --> 03:04:47,790
you

3026
03:04:58,140 --> 03:05:05,730
say get out Hey, just think what
you've been getting down and out

3027
03:05:05,730 --> 03:05:08,790
about the media and the dirty
dirty leaves in the world. You

3028
03:05:08,790 --> 03:05:14,370
could have been getting out to
the streets. My best friend

3029
03:05:14,370 --> 03:05:18,360
brought his new girlfriend she's
like, Oh my god, please put on a

3030
03:05:18,360 --> 03:05:22,800
message to the lady over there
with crazy adsterra just called

3031
03:05:22,830 --> 03:05:25,470
Baby Give me a break. Break
break

3032
03:05:39,840 --> 03:05:51,120
and the cameras gonna Hey. Gray
gray gray gray gray take it off.

3033
03:05:53,280 --> 03:05:54,000
Take it off

3034
03:06:13,110 --> 03:06:13,950
a good day

3035
03:06:20,940 --> 03:06:33,210
be swans. Be swans. Be swans.
Swans, swans. swans. swans. Be

3036
03:06:33,210 --> 03:06:44,010
swans. Swans, the swans. The
swans, swans, swans. Get her out

3037
03:06:44,010 --> 03:06:45,150
of her house,

3038
03:06:45,330 --> 03:06:47,160
every day. Celebrate.

3039
03:06:55,770 --> 03:07:03,450
Oppo boruch.org/in, a shaman
Phyllis DNA