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John C Dvorak: You take him off
the ballot to protect a

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democracy. Adam curry,

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Adam Curry: John C. Devora.
December 24 2023. In this short

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horn winning nation media
assassination episode 1690. This

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is no agenda, making a list
checking it twice. broadcasting

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live from the heart of a Texas
Hill Country here in FEMA Region

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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I've

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concluded that broadcasting live
sports events over streaming

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services doesn't work. I'm John
C. Dvorak. Greg bobbin Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: That fast action
bringing you down, getting that

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ghosting, getting that trailing
getting that not so good

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picture.

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John C Dvorak: No, I said, what
happens?

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Adam Curry: Oh, what's the
problem? Then?

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John C Dvorak: It's just
crashes.

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Adam Curry: It crashes? What are
you watching? Is it YouTube?

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John C Dvorak: Let's just
quickly Okay, the the NFL, which

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is a corrupt organization, the
way I see it, they just take

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whatever, whoever throws money.
I am looking at Taylor Swift.

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Yes. Whoever throws money at
him. And so the Amazon decided

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to stream live football on
Thursday nights. Okay. And

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nobody likes these Thursday
night games anyway, so I'll let

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Amazon do it. So there's live
stream, it doesn't work. It

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doesn't load. It's an Oh, go to
Amazon help. You can't get your

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video, and then it loads all of
a sudden, you'll get a bit of

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it, and then it's crashes with a
message. Something happened.

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Okay. So you have to go back and
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Adam Curry: It doesn't say
something went wrong. Yes,

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something went wrong. That's my
favorite message. Yes. Some

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John C Dvorak: you've seen that?

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Adam Curry: Not during sports
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John C Dvorak: well, Amazon is
overwhelmed. Their Prime Video

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is out of control. And yes, you
see that message. I tried to

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watch your reach here. I had
similar problems. But when you

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try to watch the Thursday night
football game, except I suppose

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in some areas, it's almost
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going through one small pipe.
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distributed all around the
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over the air and even on local
cable is easy. It gets

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distributed, it's fine. It's not
one thin pipe, you know, where

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everybody has to go to this pipe
to get their stuff. This is a

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stupid idea. And they're going
to promote it even more, because

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I guess they just did a game
recently, where they streamed a

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football game on the peacock
network. I don't even know how

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to get that. And nobody watched
it. This is unbelievable. This

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is unacceptable. Jhansi de
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Unknown: diva today wow,

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Adam Curry: this twice in a
month. Start off with a

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complaint let's go and well, you
know, it's clear we need to do

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we need to buy up a whole bunch
of those local OTA stations and

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then and start broadcasting live
sports. I mean, we'll have of

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course we'll have to be
badminton with what we can

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afford but it'll be a start. We

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John C Dvorak: can we can do if
we can do it with a fund

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Adam Curry: everybody you know
everybody has a TV that will do

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everyone's TV does that you just
got to get your $12 antenna

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Don't you think is genius idea

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John C Dvorak: and people are
flocking to over here? Yes, I

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Adam Curry: think we have an
exit strategy. Wow.

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John C Dvorak: Do you have an
over the error connection? Yes,

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of course. You know I have that.
Where is where are your channels

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coming from?

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Adam Curry: Oh ma'am. All over.
San Antonio. Austin. Burnie see

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there's another one. Those are
the big ones. Oh, I have over

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John C Dvorak: Beautiful over
the air OTA OTA, OTA, going OTA

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I'm an OTA Oh,

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Adam Curry: everybody standby.
Again, it's that time of year.

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That's right. It's Christmas.
One is Christmas time. What do

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we do? We scare people this

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Unknown: morning with three days
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on alert reporting the most
challenging threat environment

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since 911. Tied to the ongoing
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Oh no Tober sevens. The FBI has
received more than 1800 reports

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of threats or other types of
tips or leads that are somehow

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Oh, no FBI now has 100 active
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to that middle east car. Stop.

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John C Dvorak: Who is that woman
she has that? Bradley Lisa

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Monaco Susan Rice to Lisa
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Adam Curry: You nailed it. That
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John C Dvorak: else on Foreign
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Adam Curry: Yeah. And what is
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John C Dvorak: A funny sweater.

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Adam Curry: No, a red, a red
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important. Go go go and go out
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how many women are walking
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have never seen one. You only
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douche bags and of course, Santa
Claus, Mrs. Claus, which may may

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be a subliminal message, but the
women who wear these red

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jackets, sometimes it's yellow.
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John C Dvorak: the right No,
it's mostly red. It's

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Adam Curry: a power play. It's a
power play, and she's sitting

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there with Pierre. Well, Pierre,
we got some threat vectors

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threat environments, it's very
dangerous. 1800 tips and

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Unknown: officials also
reporting a spike in threats to

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public officials, agents and
police now investigating violent

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threats against the Colorado
Supreme Court after its ruling

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disqualifying former President
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citing his alleged role in the
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expected to appeal that ruling
to the US Supreme Court as soon

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as next week. The Deputy
Attorney General telling me in

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an ABC News exclusive. That's
the public officials are at a

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level they've never seen before.
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is an unprecedented public
officials across the board. Oh,

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Pierre, we've had cases
involving threats to kill FBI

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agents, a Supreme Court justice
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candidates and a couple
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including the FBI director are
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panic. Oh, all of the
foreseeable future and through

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Adam Curry: But don't panic. No.
ABC New York took this and went

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to the streets, their very own
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have Christmas, we also have New
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honest about it. We got all
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just listen to how the local
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saying there's no evidence of
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Unknown: we have covered the
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holiday travel situation now the
more troubling angle and yes,

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there is no confirmed terrorist
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the Christmas holiday or in New
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agencies and security experts
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chaos in the Middle East we are
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can't New York Minute ignore

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you'll find an increased police
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year. Both officers you'll see
and once you don't even know

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John C Dvorak: Wait Stop, stop
stop. Is this different than any

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other New Year's Eve ever
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Adam Curry: Oh, of course it's
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John C Dvorak: exactly the same
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police presence during New
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Adam Curry: I will say in 1987
New Years 1987 When I had just

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freshly arrived at MTV, my first
gig, not just something for

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Halloween for them. But then my
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Seventh Avenue you could get
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John C Dvorak: was a good time.

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Adam Curry: It was a good time.
Then I had police presence

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around me. It was definitely
more dangerous than just the

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sheer nature of Time Square. You
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John C Dvorak: Square was bad a
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Unknown: experts say police are
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threat environment since before
911 You're receiving more tips

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Adam Curry: what happened to
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literally you're messing up your
messaging here working behind

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the scenes to that depth

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Adam Curry: yeah social media or
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could go on we found that all
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at the increased threat started
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John C Dvorak: gun at Times
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Adam Curry: Yeah, there's all
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Square and machine guns. The
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Adam Curry: hold on a second. It
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the pro Palestinian marches. So

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Adam Curry: nationwide. The

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Unknown: FBI has investigated
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Supreme Court justice and three
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Unknown: is something that
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about in front of Congress
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Adam Curry: I've never seen a
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John C Dvorak: elevators more
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is time to really be concerned
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course. But nonetheless, we're
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hate crime numbers that are up
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extraordinary levels that we
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say they're more than prepared
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This is going to be the safest
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Adam Curry: Now listen, this and
all of that. We've got machine

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guns, we've got no threats to
the can and kill everybody and

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then but this will be the safest
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Unknown: largest New Year's Eve
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This is going to be the safest
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world. A New York City Police
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resources, the greatest
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Adam Curry: we smell good to go
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Unknown: to know how to deal
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in just the past two months,
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demonstrations directly
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war. And police are preparing
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Adam Curry: So that was just
ABC. But CBS Face the Nation. I

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mean, they deserve and what kind
of award can we get for bull

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crap scaring the public? Maybe
that's the award we should be

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giving out every single year.
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John C Dvorak: to the end
additional reason you can can't

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do multiple awards. We're in the
position to do that. I don't

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know what your reluctance is. I
can't can't figure it out a

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plan. You

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Adam Curry: did it but you need
to plan you know,

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John C Dvorak: that means
meetings forgetting.

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Adam Curry: Margaret Brennan
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I mean, I have to give it to
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of course they recorded this
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a Sunday. Thanks so not on
Christmas Eve. So they brought

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John C Dvorak: Margaret was
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Adam Curry: got him to gaze and
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Everybody was in on this,
because we need to scare

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everybody about all kinds of
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Unknown: it's tradition here at
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the year ahead. Oh, yes,
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Adam Curry: What's What's your
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Adam Curry: Hold on a second.
There's no evidence of this.

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John C Dvorak: now. Law
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We're looking forward to your

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John C Dvorak: not wasn't that
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Adam Curry: I need. I need to I
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little bit. They have this this
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John C Dvorak: some machine gun
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Adam Curry: Stopped I said that
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Adam Curry: flashbang Wow, this
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flash What do you think it's
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John C Dvorak: flash to bang
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it and and parsing it, creating
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Adam Curry: to bang to bang.
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John C Dvorak: So it's like a
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John C Dvorak: Back to them.
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Unknown: you have this
extraordinary job of covering

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the President's own son. And his
legal issues, Hunter Biden with

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these indictments, three related
to a firearm felony counts nine

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related to tax issues. Where
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Adam Curry: tax issue? That's
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John C Dvorak: if she's going to
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this gonna go? She should say if
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this clip. But I'm guessing
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well, it'll lead to a pardon.
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Unknown: this go? 2024 is going
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reelection. In January, he will
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indictment. And they reached the
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Hunter Biden as a lawyer and a
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Ukraine, with China, Romania and
others. And did they see this as

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Adam Curry: was the western
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others. And they see this as an
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violations of foreign lobbying
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Adam Curry: All right now we're
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because you know, we have to we
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get our Christmas message out
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Unknown: Well, mine's a little
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concern that 2024 may be the
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into that. And not only this
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Adam Curry: enduring heightened
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fertile ground for adversaries,
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Adam Curry: creates fertile
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that's what concerns me most, a
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John C Dvorak: does she get
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schedule? So she gets the extra
500 bucks if she says North

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Korea? Well, she

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Adam Curry: blew it because she
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Unknown: At night, would that
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this town. All

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Adam Curry: right. Now let's go
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This is this is going to wrap it
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Unknown: Face The Nation. We've
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this year off so we asked.

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Adam Curry: It was a hard year
it was so hard for us. But let's

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pat each other on the back
because we did a good job,

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everybody. It was hard. It was
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Unknown: Strassman to go back
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Adam Curry: Good news. The good
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puppies and pancakes and

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John C Dvorak: gentlemen they're
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Adam Curry: don't not entirely

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Unknown: ladies first women
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Taylor and her jubaland Swifty

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mostly from women sharing their
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Adam Curry: Now this is good
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cheering their heroes. Very
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Barbie is like such a strong and
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John C Dvorak: has like 90 jobs
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Barbie is like such a strong and
empowered woman. She has like 90

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Adam Curry: is empowering. Yes,
yes. With the legs that are five

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times too long from any hole you
normal woman with the boobs that

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Unknown: Good news. Speaking of
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working women between 25 and 54
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work and the overall economy,
inflation's down, recession,

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fears fading. And when

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John C Dvorak: this actually
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Adam Curry: Inflation is coming
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fading, nothing to see here.
rack up the credit cards people

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the overall economy, inflation's

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and we're seeing inflation

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making real progress. These are
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John C Dvorak: is cumulative
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Adam Curry: Explain. Please
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John C Dvorak: Okay, so you have
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And then when it goes from four

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another 4%. It's going up
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goes up and up and up. It's not
going it's not reversing it's

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Adam Curry: It's going parabolic
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John C Dvorak: I mean it is
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that. But but it's the rate of
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was 5.6 No justice. No job when
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especially union worker remember
this is the good news segment on

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strike, nurses, auto workers
Hollywood High they'll pick it

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in a path to a happy ending on
pay day. We

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were finally realizing wait. We
know our worth. Fans

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have come up and are just
telling the truth. also hit the

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jackpot. Oh Rudy Giuliani
ordered to pay millions for lies

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told about to Georgia election
work news, everybody

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Adam Curry: when news news we
got that guy.

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Unknown: And George Santos, the
prince

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Adam Curry: of make believe we
got that guy good news everybody

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drummed

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Unknown: out of Congress in
entertainment. Michelle Yeoh

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became the first Asian woman to
win the Best Actress Oscar and a

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salute to Admiral Lisa Frank
Eddie. She's the first ever

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female member of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff in sports. The

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Buffalo Bills Damar Hamlin
played again in an NFL game 10

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months after he nearly died from
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Adam Curry: Good news,
everybody. The jab. Didn't get

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Unknown: to be able to still do.
What I love at the highest level

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in the world is amazing.

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And Brittney Griner playing
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languishing for 10 months in
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came out was amazing.

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And finally, 2023 was a great
year for 10 Americans released

462
00:24:40,410 --> 00:24:43,800
last week from Venezuelan
custody, and five Americans

463
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,450
released in September by Iran we
got fat in our time for that

464
00:24:48,450 --> 00:24:48,780
letter

465
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Adam Curry: that's all in time
for

466
00:24:50,730 --> 00:24:53,100
John C Dvorak: the holiday never
mentioned that we got fat lender

467
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,020
in that report. Did you notice
no. Hey,

468
00:24:55,050 --> 00:24:57,450
Adam Curry: I got a note about
fat leonard. Yeah, I

469
00:24:57,450 --> 00:25:00,420
John C Dvorak: saw it. So I read
that real quick. Yeah. Go ahead.

470
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,940
Adam Curry: The title of the
last show was a sign I needed to

471
00:25:02,940 --> 00:25:06,000
donate oh he's gonna donate was
a dude named Ben stationed on

472
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,810
the USS Blue Ridge for two
years. My job was to help calm

473
00:25:09,810 --> 00:25:18,300
Seventh Fleet officers learn how
to computer. Captain David Haas

474
00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:21,720
and Commander Michael Mickiewicz
work in the department that

475
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,690
arranged schedules for all ships
in the Seventh Fleet. They

476
00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:28,440
seemed like nice enough guys,
and there wasn't much to tell. I

477
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,530
got out December 2012. And
shortly after this here, fat

478
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:34,680
leonard story shows up. Turns
out these officers were among

479
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,250
the group that diverted ships to
ports where old Lenny was able

480
00:25:38,250 --> 00:25:41,250
to scam the US government
government by overcharging for

481
00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:45,540
services. If these officers had
shared their money hotel rooms

482
00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:48,600
or hookers with me, maybe I
could have told them that all of

483
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,450
their computer activity was
being watched and showed them

484
00:25:51,450 --> 00:25:59,010
about this thing called
encryption. Oh, those guys hit

485
00:25:59,010 --> 00:26:02,640
the biggest scam in history and
they're idiots to boot. The

486
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,800
idiots. Well,

487
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,570
John C Dvorak: if anyone thinks
they're gonna get away with

488
00:26:06,570 --> 00:26:09,840
anything, and it involves a
computer, yeah, good luck. Good

489
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,600
luck with that. And good luck if
you think you know how to stop

490
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:15,630
all the record keeping that's
going on in the background. Good

491
00:26:15,630 --> 00:26:19,110
luck. Good luck. You're not
going to do it. Good luck. And

492
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:22,560
the reason for these giant hard
disks by the way, big giant

493
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,850
double terabyte 10 terabyte you
know 18 terabyte drives that are

494
00:26:26,850 --> 00:26:30,600
150 bucks now is to keep your
shit on. Keep your stuff is to

495
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,810
keep all the keep all the
evidence against you. In a way

496
00:26:33,810 --> 00:26:36,840
you don't. You never clean the
disk. It's all there. So you're,

497
00:26:37,290 --> 00:26:37,890
you're done.

498
00:26:37,950 --> 00:26:41,310
Adam Curry: Did I see that?
There's a two terabyte SD card

499
00:26:41,310 --> 00:26:41,940
coming up.

500
00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:46,800
John C Dvorak: That's wall. two
terabyte I'm sure there's a two

501
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,080
terabyte Isbin two terabyte SD
card.

502
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:51,120
Adam Curry: Really? Oh, I didn't
know that. I mean, I've seen a

503
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:51,750
one thing

504
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:53,940
John C Dvorak: now there's
getting getting to me is these

505
00:26:53,970 --> 00:27:00,300
1814 to 18 terabyte drives for
150 bucks. Yeah. It's

506
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:03,540
ridiculous. That's great. Yeah,
and it's great that way you

507
00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:06,630
don't you never clicked with it.
When I was a kid. There we go.

508
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,830
We had like a drive was a big
deal was it was like 10

509
00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:14,760
megabytes. So your net wasn't
good for anything because you

510
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,000
had to keep cleaning the debt
you had to you had to spend at

511
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,650
least one month out of the year
clearing out everything and

512
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,230
erasing it because you couldn't
keep it anywhere backing

513
00:27:25,230 --> 00:27:28,080
yesterday who something and so
you so everything was you were

514
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,670
kept yourself in your order. But
now Now, no, no while we're on

515
00:27:32,670 --> 00:27:34,710
was what's on your desk while
we're at it.

516
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:40,950
Unknown: Don't see the vorak
Bakelite chi today's Teddy K.

517
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:42,270
He's an OTG

518
00:27:42,270 --> 00:27:47,190
Adam Curry: kind of got ya Bambi
OTT kind of guy. But before we

519
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:50,430
go into that, you're really
you're gonna you're gonna you're

520
00:27:50,430 --> 00:27:51,180
gonna, I

521
00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:53,010
John C Dvorak: want to push that
off. You can play it again. But

522
00:27:53,010 --> 00:27:59,580
I think I was very misled by the
opening of today's show. Because

523
00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:03,690
you said at the opening. Yeah,
you have a Christmas like a

524
00:28:03,690 --> 00:28:07,560
classic every year Christmas
report, which isn't true. It

525
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,020
wasn't true. I didn't I have the
reports.

526
00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:13,650
Adam Curry: I didn't say that. I
said, making a list of what it

527
00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:15,600
was what I heard and checking it

528
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,360
John C Dvorak: twice. That's
what I heard. Well,

529
00:28:18,390 --> 00:28:21,150
Adam Curry: you heard so you're
going to interrupt my OTG

530
00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:25,800
segment, which I'm looking at
the rundown says right here. It

531
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,690
says 27 minutes into the show
start the OTG segment you have

532
00:28:30,690 --> 00:28:33,780
it you got your call sheet. But
now you're going to intro which

533
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,830
John C Dvorak: I thought was be
Bullock. Well,

534
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:39,870
Adam Curry: I'll do it and be
blocked then you're okay. You're

535
00:28:39,870 --> 00:28:41,010
you're calling an audible.

536
00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:44,250
John C Dvorak: I am because I
think that would was the

537
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:45,240
classic.

538
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,160
Adam Curry: Is that is that a
sports ball term? There we go.

539
00:28:50,190 --> 00:28:52,890
Nailed it. Nailed it. Nailed it.
Oh,

540
00:28:53,910 --> 00:28:58,260
John C Dvorak: it's this is the
NBC. This is what this is the

541
00:28:58,260 --> 00:29:03,060
report that everyone has on
Christmas. This is the NBC News.

542
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:07,650
NORAD, following santha report,
brother.

543
00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:12,030
Adam Curry: Where is it? I can't
say it's under NBC. No, it's not

544
00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:14,610
under MDC because I'm looking at
your clips right now. Oh, there

545
00:29:14,610 --> 00:29:15,990
it is. Yes, I gotcha. Finally

546
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:18,840
Unknown: tonight, Santa Claus is
putting the final touches on his

547
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,780
flight plan for Sunday night.
And once again, he'll be

548
00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:25,530
counting and members of the US
and Canadian militaries to make

549
00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:29,100
sure he has a clear path as he
departs the North Pole to the

550
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:30,810
Adam Curry: Canadians even
celebrate Christmas.

551
00:29:33,270 --> 00:29:36,300
John C Dvorak: The removal is
more before Trudeau before

552
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:37,320
Trudeau America's

553
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Unknown: front door and garden.
This sprawling expanse from

554
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:45,930
adversaries is the job of the
North American Aerospace Defense

555
00:29:45,930 --> 00:29:50,700
Command or NORAD put not every
object on your ads radar is an

556
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:55,950
intruder, especially when Santa
takes flight on Christmas Eve, I

557
00:29:55,950 --> 00:29:59,160
spoke to Lieutenant General
Blaise Frawley to learn more

558
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,700
about the critical mission of
tracking center blades I know

559
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:06,900
your main job is to protect the
North American Aerospace against

560
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:09,270
intruding aircraft or bad guys.

561
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:11,340
Adam Curry: Yeah, they want to
fly into like buildings in New

562
00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:13,710
York. But how good was that? How
do

563
00:30:13,710 --> 00:30:16,860
Unknown: you use that technology
to track center or

564
00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:19,860
main job at NORAD is to defend
North America with the

565
00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:23,940
binational command US and Canada
collectively, balloons we use

566
00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:28,050
our systems to track we use our
North warning system as well we

567
00:30:28,050 --> 00:30:31,110
use worldwide to global
satellites and finally our

568
00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:32,190
fighter aircraft.

569
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:37,140
NORAD Santa tracking mission
began in 1955 When a child

570
00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:40,950
trying to reach sat up instead
called an unlisted number for

571
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:44,850
the military's Continental Air
Defense Command. The commander

572
00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:48,840
on duty realizing what had
happened, assured the child they

573
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,780
would guarantee Santa a safe
journey this

574
00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:56,130
Adam Curry: sounds like a bunch
of bull crap. Is this the

575
00:30:56,130 --> 00:30:57,390
genesis of this thing?

576
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,880
John C Dvorak: I've never heard
the Genesis story before I've

577
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,220
Adam Curry: never heard this I
thought it was ham radio guys

578
00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:04,230
who track Santa and then I like

579
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:06,420
John C Dvorak: to know if these
guys are so such hot shots. How

580
00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:10,140
did they miss that air balloon
that came floating over until it

581
00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:11,130
got to Montana

582
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,210
Adam Curry: Military Industrial
Complex weaponizing Santa, a

583
00:31:15,210 --> 00:31:18,150
Unknown: promise NORAD has kept
every year

584
00:31:22,170 --> 00:31:24,660
throughout the years many
different fighter aircraft have

585
00:31:24,660 --> 00:31:27,630
intercepted Santa and will
normally give him a wing waggle

586
00:31:27,630 --> 00:31:28,320
is repealed

587
00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:30,510
Adam Curry: if intercepted Santa
what?

588
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:34,530
John C Dvorak: Wow. didn't shoot
him down.

589
00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:39,300
Unknown: Throughout the years,
many different fighter aircraft

590
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:42,360
have intercepted Santa and will
normally give him a wing waggle

591
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,850
as we peel off after we've
intercepted him.

592
00:31:47,850 --> 00:31:50,940
Thanks to that technology,
technology, kids are able to

593
00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:55,470
call in to your ad send a
tracking hotline or log on via

594
00:31:55,470 --> 00:32:00,390
social media for real time
updates. Making sure Sandy is

595
00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:04,920
indeed on his way. Everybody in
your house?

596
00:32:10,110 --> 00:32:12,450
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Of
course. I didn't see this. Where

597
00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:15,870
are they taking calls from from
kids at NORAD? Is that what I

598
00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:16,470
was hearing?

599
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,430
John C Dvorak: But there's
somebody's taking calls. Man.

600
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,910
And they have they have a
website? Everything is pretty

601
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,690
interesting is advanced somewhat
since the 50s.

602
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,120
Adam Curry: Yeah, because they
they need to recruit children

603
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,320
now when they're six. Because
they no one wants to work for

604
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,640
these jokes anymore.

605
00:32:37,290 --> 00:32:39,180
John C Dvorak: Well, I guess
that's the report I was

606
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:40,620
expecting from you.

607
00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:43,530
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're right.
I fell down on the job, man.

608
00:32:44,970 --> 00:32:48,180
John C Dvorak: Now I want to go
to the OTG. Which, by the way,

609
00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:52,650
use the second half a show
anyway. But I just I don't know.

610
00:32:53,130 --> 00:32:55,890
I think you're getting a guilty
conscience of reasons you're

611
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:01,890
bringing this OTG up. Because
you know that I, as of January 1

612
00:33:01,890 --> 00:33:06,630
will have been with actually, to
be honest about it since the

613
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:12,870
next Christmas. I will have been
without a cell phone in my

614
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:15,660
pocket, or anyplace else for
that matter. I have not looked

615
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:18,120
at one for an entire year.

616
00:33:18,150 --> 00:33:19,440
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're
amazing.

617
00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:23,670
John C Dvorak: I am amazing. I
have not used and you know what?

618
00:33:23,820 --> 00:33:27,930
It didn't make a damn bit of
difference in my life. Well,

619
00:33:27,930 --> 00:33:30,060
Adam Curry: no, that's right.
You're just as lonely. No one

620
00:33:30,060 --> 00:33:32,370
visits you don't know anybody

621
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,490
besides that, besides your
winning

622
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,340
John C Dvorak: low Digi Ganic.

623
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,830
Adam Curry: I need to bring this
up because of that previous that

624
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:55,470
previous note to two people
notified me this morning. That

625
00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:04,140
Prince Eric prince, the guy from
GE Academy formula, Blackwater.

626
00:34:04,380 --> 00:34:07,020
You know, he's rebranded three
times to Blackwater guy. The

627
00:34:07,020 --> 00:34:07,740
Blackwater Yeah,

628
00:34:07,770 --> 00:34:09,450
John C Dvorak: we know him. He's

629
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,100
Adam Curry: coming out with a
phone. And he's out there

630
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:15,870
shilling the phone? What a great

631
00:34:15,870 --> 00:34:20,100
John C Dvorak: idea for him. The
exit strategy for a guy like

632
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:20,730
that. Well,

633
00:34:20,759 --> 00:34:22,409
Adam Curry: this is why I wanted
to look at it. It's the

634
00:34:24,449 --> 00:34:26,879
unplugged phone@unplugged.com
Boy that must have paid a lot

635
00:34:26,879 --> 00:34:31,739
for that domain name. That's a
good one. unplugged.com Yeah,

636
00:34:31,739 --> 00:34:31,889
they

637
00:34:31,889 --> 00:34:32,519
John C Dvorak: pay for that

638
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:34,110
Adam Curry: someone say a lot.
And

639
00:34:34,140 --> 00:34:36,210
John C Dvorak: but I it's a
million dollars. But

640
00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:38,640
Adam Curry: you know, it's like
they've got this source an

641
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,530
Android derivative, but I need
the dude's name Ben to to weigh

642
00:34:43,530 --> 00:34:46,200
in on this thing because of
course I haven't. I haven't seen

643
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,340
they using the Liberty OS
Liberte. Liberte lips, Laurie

644
00:34:50,370 --> 00:34:55,920
liber toss is lib tard OS.
Which, you know, it may be a

645
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,820
graphene OS type deal, I don't
know but then they're they're

646
00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:02,850
all So selling you and this is
where it gets real sketchy for

647
00:35:02,850 --> 00:35:04,170
me. Well,

648
00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:06,540
John C Dvorak: I'm good before
we continue with what you think

649
00:35:06,540 --> 00:35:10,890
is sketchy, I think, because of
his background in intelligence.

650
00:35:11,790 --> 00:35:13,590
I'm very skeptical, of course,

651
00:35:13,710 --> 00:35:17,580
Adam Curry: especially when he's
selling you the up messenger. So

652
00:35:17,610 --> 00:35:20,550
you use their special messenger
app. I don't know what's wrong

653
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:25,260
with signal signal seems fine to
me. And they're selling you a

654
00:35:25,260 --> 00:35:29,970
VPN. Well, that's a big a big
red red flag right there. Yeah,

655
00:35:29,970 --> 00:35:34,860
let's use Erik Prince's VPN.
What could go wrong with that?

656
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,410
Yeah. So I want the dudes named
Ben to let me know what they

657
00:35:40,410 --> 00:35:41,250
think of this.

658
00:35:42,570 --> 00:35:45,360
John C Dvorak: But myself,
because I am going to start

659
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,940
using your phone again next
year. Why at least?

660
00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:50,940
Adam Curry: Well, if you're
lonely, you're lonely. I know

661
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:51,270
it.

662
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,090
John C Dvorak: I need to call
those girls on the 800 line.

663
00:35:55,020 --> 00:35:56,610
When there's a dated reference,

664
00:35:57,390 --> 00:35:59,190
Adam Curry: it's 900 900. Line.

665
00:36:00,180 --> 00:36:01,890
Unknown: Line. I don't know.
Well,

666
00:36:01,890 --> 00:36:05,610
Adam Curry: hold on. I have a
clip for you

667
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,040
Unknown: get a recent Surgeon
General advisory found that

668
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,580
lacking social connection can
actually increase your risk of

669
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:17,040
death by 60%. paid attention
now. Yeah. All right. Racist the

670
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,520
chances of dementia stroke and
heart disease and it can be the

671
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,520
equivalent of smoking 15
cigarettes a day.

672
00:36:24,510 --> 00:36:27,660
John C Dvorak: So Oreos are bad
is cocaine. You

673
00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:29,610
Unknown: don't have a call this
one of the defining issues of

674
00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:32,460
our time. And usually when a
Surgeon General declares

675
00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:35,400
something an epidemic, we're
talking about

676
00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:37,020
Adam Curry: you, John, you

677
00:36:38,370 --> 00:36:40,860
John C Dvorak: that fruity
Surgeon General, we're dealing

678
00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:42,030
with? Yes.

679
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,150
Adam Curry: Hey, who you call
him? Fruity Adamic.

680
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,740
Unknown: We're talking about
AIDS, for example, or cigarettes

681
00:36:49,740 --> 00:36:54,570
like AIDS. That is how severe
you believe this is for people.

682
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:56,370
Adam Curry: And what could they
be talking about?

683
00:36:56,910 --> 00:37:01,320
John C Dvorak: This is this is
you giving me grief, and

684
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,740
listening to this. This is all
part of a giant scheme to make

685
00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:08,070
sure everyone's hooked onto one
of these stupid phones. So they

686
00:37:08,070 --> 00:37:11,700
had so they have field dependent
constantly. This is creating a

687
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:15,030
giant world of dependent people
that they can control with the

688
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:16,740
One World Government Jhansi

689
00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:18,420
Adam Curry: Dvorak on fire
today.

690
00:37:19,830 --> 00:37:23,130
John C Dvorak: I had a double, I
had to double, double,

691
00:37:23,130 --> 00:37:27,240
especially when I go to this
espresso machine. And I look at

692
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:30,990
and I say, Well, do I want to be
just regular on the show and you

693
00:37:31,050 --> 00:37:34,110
have a good time. Now today I'm
going for the double head

694
00:37:34,110 --> 00:37:36,900
because I know it always brings
the best out in me. Well, I

695
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:38,190
Unknown: think one of the things
that's really important to

696
00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:40,590
recognize is we didn't get here
overnight. COVID certainly

697
00:37:40,590 --> 00:37:44,220
contributed to this loneliness
crisis. But it was a problem

698
00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:47,490
long before as a result of
lesser participation in the

699
00:37:47,490 --> 00:37:49,830
commuter organizations that used
to bring us together rec

700
00:37:49,830 --> 00:37:53,550
leagues, churches, synagogues,
etc. But also the impact of

701
00:37:53,550 --> 00:37:56,370
technology and social media has
not always been positive, it's

702
00:37:56,370 --> 00:37:59,520
often diluted, the quality of
people's relationships, taking

703
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,720
them from in person interactions
to online interactions. This is

704
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:06,870
about quality of friendships,
quality of interactions, not

705
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:09,630
quantity. I know the age of
social media has convinced us

706
00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:13,560
that we need 1000s of followers
and 1000s of friends. We do not

707
00:38:13,740 --> 00:38:17,280
it's we just need a few people
in our life, who see us for who

708
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,370
we are with whom we can be
ourselves and who can show up

709
00:38:20,370 --> 00:38:24,120
for us in a crisis and hopefully
we can do the same for them.

710
00:38:24,330 --> 00:38:26,460
Such an important message around
the holidays.

711
00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:32,520
Adam Curry: You know, we'll go
fry this is this is why I always

712
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,870
say connection is protection the
no agenda meetups.

713
00:38:37,350 --> 00:38:39,360
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's a good early plug for the

714
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,340
meetups. This show this show is

715
00:38:41,340 --> 00:38:47,790
Adam Curry: the antidote to
this. HIV can't cigarette cancer

716
00:38:47,790 --> 00:38:50,160
they were talking about called
loneliness.

717
00:38:51,420 --> 00:38:53,700
John C Dvorak: But I think we
call it the loneliness trend.

718
00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:54,930
Yeah. Oh, no news.

719
00:38:54,990 --> 00:38:57,840
Adam Curry: There's something
there six months up. It's an

720
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,800
obvious sign up.

721
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,290
John C Dvorak: But what's what's
the app designed to do? I mean,

722
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,820
what's the purpose of the op?
Make people depressed? I

723
00:39:05,820 --> 00:39:07,770
Adam Curry: mean, you feel like
crap. Yep. that would that would

724
00:39:07,770 --> 00:39:11,010
be one. That'd be one. Yeah, I
mean, there's a lot of ops

725
00:39:11,010 --> 00:39:12,270
playing out right now. In fact,

726
00:39:12,270 --> 00:39:13,710
John C Dvorak: there's too many
and they're some of them are

727
00:39:13,710 --> 00:39:14,910
bumping into each other.

728
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:19,230
Adam Curry: The Taylor Swift up
was ratchet. This was getting on

729
00:39:19,230 --> 00:39:21,870
John C Dvorak: my nerves. Not
you brought that clip up. We've

730
00:39:21,870 --> 00:39:24,000
Unknown: talked a lot about how
the Taylor Swift effect has

731
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,730
changed in the NFL. So if you
were to look at the video of

732
00:39:26,730 --> 00:39:30,120
Taylor Swift watching now her
Kansas City Chiefs it's very

733
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,080
transient a spell has
radicalized Taylor Swift ah,

734
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:37,500
Adam Curry: the NFL has
radicalized Taylor Swift. She

735
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:37,740
was

736
00:39:37,740 --> 00:39:41,250
Unknown: cursing she was yelling
she was furious, as furious as

737
00:39:41,250 --> 00:39:44,430
Patrick mahomes was spiking his
helmet on the ground after he

738
00:39:44,430 --> 00:39:48,690
threw two picks in this game. It
was a home game for Taylor

739
00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:49,470
Swift.

740
00:39:50,190 --> 00:39:55,170
Adam Curry: I you know, I have
to say that something is wrong

741
00:39:55,170 --> 00:40:00,450
with Taylor Swift because her
image is not her. You Using the

742
00:40:00,450 --> 00:40:05,280
F word so everybody can see it.
And she's very she's hyper aware

743
00:40:05,310 --> 00:40:09,180
of being on camera. Totally. So
she knows that she's doing this

744
00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:12,780
that there was something about
that. That was very, very wrong.

745
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,520
They broke my heart.

746
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:19,079
John C Dvorak: I liked the crack
in your voice good. Broke. My

747
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:20,759
heart is good. It's very good.
Yeah.

748
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:23,910
Adam Curry: There's another part
of that loneliness up. Is Have

749
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:29,250
you been falling this beeper? I
message thing? No. So I don't

750
00:40:29,250 --> 00:40:36,360
think I have a clip of it. You
would know this. But there thank

751
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,790
you. Yeah, you wouldn't know
this. But there's a social

752
00:40:38,820 --> 00:40:45,450
issue. And I even get crap for
it from from my adult. You know,

753
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:52,290
AARP friends. You're the green
bubble in our chat group. You're

754
00:40:52,290 --> 00:40:56,850
ruining the You're ruining the
chat group. But yes, I know, I

755
00:40:56,850 --> 00:41:00,030
didn't, I thought you would
know. Um, so there's a

756
00:41:00,030 --> 00:41:04,320
difference between iPhones. When
you're when you're text

757
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,920
messaging with an iPhone, you're
no longer going through the SMS

758
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,850
Short Message Service system,
you're going through iMessage,

759
00:41:12,090 --> 00:41:15,900
right. And we know that with
iMessage, you can mail you can

760
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:19,890
delete stuff, you can edit
stuff, you can add stuff, you

761
00:41:19,890 --> 00:41:24,090
can name your group. But if you
add one person into the group

762
00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:29,490
who has a phone that is on the
SMS system, ie Adam with

763
00:41:29,490 --> 00:41:35,160
graphene OS that ruins all the
features, then a breaks then

764
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:39,150
then it because and you will
show up as a green bubble, where

765
00:41:39,150 --> 00:41:43,290
everyone else is a blue bubble.
And it's so bad that you know,

766
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,170
there are people who we've
talked about this. People will

767
00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:49,110
not date someone who has a green
bubble. If you've got an Android

768
00:41:49,110 --> 00:41:52,380
phone, you're Undateable. But
this was years ago, we

769
00:41:52,380 --> 00:41:54,570
John C Dvorak: talked about
Well, it's been it's only me it

770
00:41:54,570 --> 00:42:00,270
was like I wish I would guess 10
years ago, when we had somebody

771
00:42:00,270 --> 00:42:03,930
somebody sent us an email saying
that they wouldn't think anyone.

772
00:42:04,020 --> 00:42:04,140
I

773
00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:06,300
Adam Curry: think it was a
buzzkill Junior actually who

774
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:09,480
filled us in on this. It could
have been Yeah, I think so. But

775
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:09,540
it

776
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:12,180
John C Dvorak: was like if
you're at the bar, and you pull

777
00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:17,400
out anything but an iPhone,
you're a loser. So the girls

778
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,880
wouldn't date these people. But
I thought that went by the

779
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,870
wayside with the foldables. No
other phones that are far

780
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:27,000
superior in my head to the
iPhone.

781
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:31,050
Adam Curry: Now this of course,
this could be iPhone. Public

782
00:42:31,050 --> 00:42:35,250
Relations, again, topic handle
is possible. Yeah. So this guy

783
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:39,600
came up with an app, then he
reverse engineered the iMessage

784
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,100
protocol. And he released this
app, and Apple, of course lost

785
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:46,920
their crap because there goes
there the whole reason for

786
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,910
getting an iPhone. So I actually
think that this is Apple

787
00:42:50,910 --> 00:42:56,730
propaganda. And now the FTC was
looking into this guy, you know,

788
00:42:56,730 --> 00:42:57,390
oh, the

789
00:42:57,390 --> 00:43:00,720
John C Dvorak: FTC should be
looking into Apple. Of course.

790
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,710
Well, the

791
00:43:01,740 --> 00:43:06,330
Adam Curry: EU has now forced
Apple's hand and they in the EU

792
00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:10,170
in 2024. And I think it'll be
worldwide. They're going to

793
00:43:10,170 --> 00:43:15,000
adhere to the RCS standard, rich
communication services, I think.

794
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,770
So I think they'll let me know
the let the Android people, I

795
00:43:19,770 --> 00:43:22,980
think you'll they'll still give
you a green bubble. If I were

796
00:43:22,980 --> 00:43:25,710
Apple, that's what I do. If I
were the horrible people at

797
00:43:25,710 --> 00:43:28,320
Apple, or I would give you the
function I

798
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,110
John C Dvorak: would too. That's
exactly the right strategy. Use

799
00:43:31,110 --> 00:43:33,990
the new standard, but you'd have
some other they'll get a green

800
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:36,600
thing running underneath that
would let you know it was coming

801
00:43:38,370 --> 00:43:41,430
Adam Curry: from a loser or a
loser loser green

802
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:43,440
John C Dvorak: bubble. Yeah,
that's what I would do exactly

803
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,150
what I would do. So

804
00:43:45,180 --> 00:43:48,870
Adam Curry: you know, people, if
this is important in your life,

805
00:43:49,050 --> 00:43:52,200
then if they're in I have given
my friends grief about this,

806
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,910
you're horrible person when you
say that. Now, my pastor, he's

807
00:43:56,910 --> 00:43:58,740
like, we're in a group message
with him like you're a horrible

808
00:43:58,770 --> 00:44:02,190
person, Pastor. You should. He
shouldn't be complaining about

809
00:44:02,190 --> 00:44:06,360
my green bubble. This is really
bad. This

810
00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:09,390
John C Dvorak: This sounds
terrible. This also is your Oh,

811
00:44:09,390 --> 00:44:11,310
I can now see the triggering
mechanism.

812
00:44:11,730 --> 00:44:13,200
Adam Curry: What's the
triggering mechanism

813
00:44:13,260 --> 00:44:15,990
John C Dvorak: that your pastor
is like, rebuked you,

814
00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:21,000
Adam Curry: when he threw in a
quick Smiley? Wink emoji. So

815
00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:21,840
John C Dvorak: that's everybody.

816
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,630
Adam Curry: I know. We're all
okay.

817
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,990
John C Dvorak: Yeah, sure. But
this

818
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:31,470
Adam Curry: is this is
seriously, if your pastor listen

819
00:44:31,470 --> 00:44:35,850
to this show. Oh, absolutely. I
doubt it. Oh, absolutely loves

820
00:44:35,850 --> 00:44:40,440
the show. Yes, he loves it. This
is where we

821
00:44:41,490 --> 00:44:44,490
John C Dvorak: send you an email
saying quantum five, which will

822
00:44:44,490 --> 00:44:49,200
be the code word I just gave a
quantum five. Okay. Don't repeat

823
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,770
it. I won't make sure that he
Okay. Here's

824
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:55,770
Adam Curry: how here's how I
connected with the pastor. When

825
00:44:55,770 --> 00:44:58,470
he was over at our house for the
first time when Phoebe bit his

826
00:44:58,470 --> 00:45:02,010
wife would that was cool. This
is before we sent her away to

827
00:45:02,010 --> 00:45:04,590
the bootcamp. Yeah.

828
00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:07,350
John C Dvorak: Did you say bit?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

829
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,770
Adam Curry: Yeah. That's my
Phoebe went away for three

830
00:45:10,770 --> 00:45:15,510
weeks. So we didn't really know
them. And so like, oh, the

831
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:18,450
pastor's wife coming over for
dinner. And then we're sitting

832
00:45:18,450 --> 00:45:21,900
there and I said, Hey, you know,
what I wanted to say is I really

833
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:24,300
loved your service this morning.
What came out was I really loved

834
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:28,980
your show. And he cracked up.
And then we realized that we

835
00:45:28,980 --> 00:45:32,070
actually both are doing shows.
And there's a lot of

836
00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:38,760
similarities between them.
Pastor John, ah, just saying.

837
00:45:40,050 --> 00:45:43,770
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I
don't want to be blasphemous. Be

838
00:45:43,770 --> 00:45:45,270
sure we're doing a podcast and
that's

839
00:45:47,940 --> 00:45:50,100
Unknown: let's be blasphemous
for a moment. Then the European

840
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:53,430
Union is squaring up to porn
sites seeing some companies have

841
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:57,000
to follow the strictest level of
the EU's new digital rulebook.

842
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:59,970
That means they'll have to beef
up measures aimed at policing

843
00:45:59,970 --> 00:46:03,780
illegal content, and protecting
minors. It won't be welcome news

844
00:46:03,780 --> 00:46:06,810
for platforms like Pornhub. It
says it doesn't have enough

845
00:46:06,810 --> 00:46:09,480
users to deserve that level of
scrutiny. The newly listed

846
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,300
platforms will follow Elon
Musk's ex, which Brussels

847
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:15,330
suspects isn't doing enough to
clamp down on disinformation.

848
00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:18,600
After all, if tech firms are
found to be in breach of the EU

849
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:21,930
rules, they could face fines of
up to 6% of revenue, or be

850
00:46:21,930 --> 00:46:25,410
banned from the block for repeat
offenses. Brussels is just

851
00:46:25,410 --> 00:46:27,600
getting started with
enforcement. So we've yet to see

852
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,690
just how tough the laws are in
practice, or what they mean for

853
00:46:30,690 --> 00:46:33,990
businesses. The European Union
says platforms can run from the

854
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:36,120
new rules that they can't hide.
The

855
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:42,630
Adam Curry: EU is lost man.
Lost. They have no free speech

856
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,870
is gone. It's gone. It's gone. I

857
00:46:45,870 --> 00:46:48,450
John C Dvorak: do where they
happen to they just kind of put

858
00:46:48,450 --> 00:46:53,160
up with it. You have always been
the pushovers. I mean that's why

859
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,950
there's all those wars that
break out every you know so

860
00:46:55,950 --> 00:46:59,940
often. One German country beaten
up the other one and then all

861
00:46:59,940 --> 00:47:04,710
hell breaks loose in the real
world war. And it spreads all

862
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:08,040
over the place. Those guys are
horrible. They're hopeless, the

863
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:08,340
worst

864
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,280
Adam Curry: they don't even
realize what's going on. They

865
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,190
don't they don't even know about
the digital services act. They

866
00:47:14,190 --> 00:47:17,730
don't even know what's going on
with them. That's the thing.

867
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:21,630
Besides what what we what we
can't say that what we have to

868
00:47:21,630 --> 00:47:27,750
register for porn, but taking a
picture of my face. What? When

869
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:30,630
did that happen? Because you
know, Brussels is people think

870
00:47:30,660 --> 00:47:35,280
well, of course. The UK is is is
different. UK has its own

871
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,820
issues.

872
00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:38,940
John C Dvorak: But yeah, they're
still they're still part of it.

873
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:45,150
There's, you know, they only
broke away and kind of a fake

874
00:47:45,150 --> 00:47:46,500
way. I think the whole range

875
00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:50,070
Adam Curry: wait until Nigel
Farage comes back. He's kind of

876
00:47:50,490 --> 00:47:54,330
John C Dvorak: I know he's
making a meal. But he is. He's

877
00:47:54,330 --> 00:47:58,200
fronting for someone else. Who
knows who? I have a I have a

878
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:59,910
three by three. Oh,

879
00:47:59,910 --> 00:48:02,430
Adam Curry: no, no, no, it's
time for a three by three.

880
00:48:03,180 --> 00:48:13,710
Experiment by JC de Behrens go
read from ABC. John's got three

881
00:48:13,710 --> 00:48:16,050
stories from three networks.
Let's see what the script is

882
00:48:16,050 --> 00:48:18,690
today. Are they all the same
today? Are they collusion? Did

883
00:48:18,690 --> 00:48:20,940
they get the talking points from
the White House or so from the

884
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:24,600
intelligence agencies? It is
your three by three?

885
00:48:24,930 --> 00:48:27,900
John C Dvorak: Well, I have to
say that. Thank you for the

886
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:32,790
intro. You're welcome. I have to
say that. Our producer Jones

887
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:38,580
that finds the Save the clip.
Clip collector? Yes. Steve, our

888
00:48:38,580 --> 00:48:41,070
buddy. Yeah. It's like,

889
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,630
Adam Curry: do you know that
he's,

890
00:48:43,470 --> 00:48:46,050
John C Dvorak: I'm kind of
surprised. Yes. I'm surprised

891
00:48:46,050 --> 00:48:50,640
that I stopped doing this
myself. Because it's more

892
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,140
apparent than ever. That it's
like the same newsroom. These

893
00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:59,250
stories are structured the same
this two three networks that are

894
00:48:59,250 --> 00:49:02,790
supposed to be in competition
with each other. And the three

895
00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:06,420
networks put together the exact
and this is goes on and on. Not

896
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,320
just one story me. He sent these
sends different samples of

897
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,610
different examples.

898
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:16,080
Adam Curry: Hold on. Hold on a
second. No wonder I'm getting

899
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,940
fewer clips from him. It's like
he's like, Oh, this is so much

900
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:24,810
easier to do the three by three
for John. Like that. Just drop

901
00:49:24,810 --> 00:49:27,300
on that stuff. I just needle
drop it. Boom, there it is.

902
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:29,010
Boom, there it is. Boom, there
it is.

903
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,060
John C Dvorak: I will I don't
well. Yeah, I think it's I think

904
00:49:33,060 --> 00:49:39,390
it's true. I think he I think he
himself is stunned by the

905
00:49:39,390 --> 00:49:43,290
stupidity of these these three
networks, these major networks

906
00:49:43,290 --> 00:49:49,560
worldwide, International. These
networks are playing us. Exactly

907
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,270
the same story. So somebody else
is doing the stories. They're

908
00:49:54,270 --> 00:49:58,770
not doing it. Let's start with.
This is about the SCOTUS denial

909
00:49:58,770 --> 00:50:01,620
of the trump of One of the
trials Yeah.

910
00:50:02,430 --> 00:50:05,310
Adam Curry: Data Files, fast
tracking of the trial fast

911
00:50:05,310 --> 00:50:08,580
John C Dvorak: tracking Exactly.
Let's start with NBC. Tonight

912
00:50:08,580 --> 00:50:11,220
Unknown: the US Supreme Court
handing Donald Trump the

913
00:50:11,220 --> 00:50:15,570
practical victory he wanted
punting for now on a legal issue

914
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:19,320
that could make or break the
federal case that accuses him of

915
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,070
plotting to overturn the last
election. The High Court

916
00:50:23,070 --> 00:50:26,820
declining the special counsels
request to answer right now

917
00:50:26,850 --> 00:50:30,870
whether Mr. Trump is immune from
prosecution, a lower court

918
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:34,200
concluding the presidency
doesn't confer a lifelong Get

919
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,520
Out of Jail Free pass a decision
Mr. Trump had appealed, arguing

920
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,730
complete immunity for anything
that happened while he was in

921
00:50:41,730 --> 00:50:45,930
office. That led prosecutors to
ask the Supreme Court to step in

922
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:49,950
and quickly resolve the issue.
Now, today's decision all but

923
00:50:49,950 --> 00:50:54,570
guaranteeing the existing trial
date set for March will flip all

924
00:50:54,570 --> 00:50:57,960
this as the prosecution's hand
is strengthened on a different

925
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,290
front. The Detroit News
reporting it reviewed audio

926
00:51:01,290 --> 00:51:05,160
recordings of Mr. Trump pressing
to local Republican officials

927
00:51:05,310 --> 00:51:09,090
not to certify the 2020 election
results in Wayne County,

928
00:51:09,090 --> 00:51:12,570
Michigan, telling them we can't
let these people take our

929
00:51:12,570 --> 00:51:13,980
country away from us.

930
00:51:14,550 --> 00:51:18,090
Army for my service. asked me
how I was doing

931
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,080
NBC News has not heard or
verified the audio. The Trump

932
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,080
campaign maintains the former
President was focused on

933
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,520
election integrity. The call
itself only described benignly

934
00:51:29,550 --> 00:51:33,000
by one of those local officials
at the time. Are you saying the

935
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,490
President's call had no
influence at you recant

936
00:51:35,490 --> 00:51:38,460
that you're? Absolutely. Wow.

937
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,770
Adam Curry: So there's no story.
They have no evidence, no call?

938
00:51:43,890 --> 00:51:47,040
No one's saying it's an outrage.
They got nothing.

939
00:51:48,780 --> 00:51:51,030
John C Dvorak: No, they do have
the same quote everyone uses

940
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:54,660
which is Trump. Trump said that
we had to take back our country.

941
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,510
You're going to hear that was
NBC. You're going to hear ABC

942
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:05,160
and this is going to be I would
say you think it was the same

943
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,720
exact report. They have the same
cut away to this bullcrap

944
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:15,570
recording. Everything's in the
same order. This is unbelievable

945
00:52:15,570 --> 00:52:16,080
to me.

946
00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:18,420
Unknown: Tonight, a legal
victory for former President

947
00:52:18,420 --> 00:52:21,750
Donald Trump in a one sentence
order. The US Supreme Court says

948
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:24,540
it will stay out of the Federal
Election interference case

949
00:52:24,540 --> 00:52:28,050
against him until a lower court
decides whether he's immune from

950
00:52:28,050 --> 00:52:30,870
prosecution for crimes he
allegedly committed while he was

951
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:34,080
in office. Special Counsel Jack
Smith had asked the justices to

952
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,830
move fast and bypass a federal
appeals court. Today's decision

953
00:52:37,830 --> 00:52:40,380
almost certainly means Trump's
trial currently scheduled to

954
00:52:40,380 --> 00:52:43,920
begin March fourth will be
delayed. Trump faces conspiracy

955
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,950
and obstruction charges for
plotting to overturn the 2020

956
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:50,340
election. Special Counsel said
Trump used deceit towards state

957
00:52:50,340 --> 00:52:53,640
officials to subvert the
legitimate election results. And

958
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,030
tonight a new report claiming to
show how deeply engaged Trump

959
00:52:57,030 --> 00:53:00,510
was in efforts to cling to
power. The Detroit News reports

960
00:53:00,510 --> 00:53:03,060
are viewed a recording of Trump
on the phone with two

961
00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:06,420
Republicans on the Wayne County
Board of canvassers pressuring

962
00:53:06,420 --> 00:53:10,350
them not to certify Joe Biden's
victory in Michigan. The paper

963
00:53:10,350 --> 00:53:13,200
says Trump told the two
canvassers Monica Palmer and

964
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,780
William Hartmann, they'd look
terrible if they sign the

965
00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:19,080
certification and press Trump
telling them we can't let these

966
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,110
people take our country away
from us. Republican Chairwoman

967
00:53:22,110 --> 00:53:25,410
Ronna McDaniel, who was on the
same call reportedly said Do not

968
00:53:25,410 --> 00:53:28,140
sign it. We will get you
attorneys Trump padding will

969
00:53:28,140 --> 00:53:31,440
take care of that. ABC News has
not independently confirmed the

970
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,440
report. neither Trump nor
McDaniel disputed the papers

971
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,320
characterization of the call
Palmer did not respond to our

972
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,160
request for comment. Hartman
died in 2021. The pressure

973
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,490
campaign did not work the
canvassers ultimately certified

974
00:53:44,490 --> 00:53:47,220
the election for Biden. Trump's
spokesman says the former

975
00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:49,950
President's actions were taken
in furtherance of his duty as

976
00:53:49,950 --> 00:53:53,400
President to ensure election
integrity. McDaniel said the

977
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,160
call reflects her belief there
was ample evidence that

978
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,640
warranted an audit. The call
fits a pattern of Trump's strong

979
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,360
arming state officials to change
the 2020 election results like

980
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,670
his call to Georgia's Secretary
of State

981
00:54:05,730 --> 00:54:09,540
Adam Curry: I love that pressure
strong arming I mean, what do

982
00:54:09,540 --> 00:54:13,290
you say I'm going to shoot you
I'm going to arrest you What is

983
00:54:13,290 --> 00:54:17,400
this bad as mafia mafia
practices man writes Hitler

984
00:54:17,460 --> 00:54:17,850
Hitler

985
00:54:17,850 --> 00:54:20,610
John C Dvorak: did you'll notice
the destructure that story is

986
00:54:20,610 --> 00:54:24,570
identical exactly the same?
Exactly the same and how does

987
00:54:24,570 --> 00:54:25,350
that happen? I

988
00:54:25,350 --> 00:54:27,570
Adam Curry: would like to same
length John, these clips are

989
00:54:27,570 --> 00:54:29,670
almost all of this fact is

990
00:54:31,230 --> 00:54:36,270
John C Dvorak: the same link I
have just tell Jonesy oh hey, we

991
00:54:36,270 --> 00:54:37,680
can't go over two minutes. So

992
00:54:38,550 --> 00:54:42,420
Adam Curry: these geysers the
Joneses clip collective voice

993
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:46,770
clip Custodio. They have a they
have a discord they share

994
00:54:46,770 --> 00:54:50,250
together so they don't overlap
clips. They're managing us.

995
00:54:52,350 --> 00:54:57,120
John C Dvorak: Privates were for
some agency for pool boy. So

996
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:03,480
yeah, brother Joe. So the point
is, is that this is ridiculous

997
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,290
these these reports, and they
have the same structure almost.

998
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,680
I mean, it's just it's like how
do you how does that happen on

999
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,740
two independent newsrooms? It
can't happen unless you're being

1000
00:55:13,740 --> 00:55:17,700
guided by above. Now, I will
mention that when this first

1001
00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:21,990
came up, probably a month ago
that there were that this Joker

1002
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:25,830
was going to send us to the
Supreme Court directly. I said,

1003
00:55:26,010 --> 00:55:29,310
on this show, that this, they're
not going to accept this because

1004
00:55:29,340 --> 00:55:33,270
the Supreme Court, in this case,
definitely wants it to go

1005
00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:37,260
through some lower systems. It
has to be, you just can't go

1006
00:55:37,260 --> 00:55:41,040
from zero to the Supreme Court.
I can't take my parking ticket

1007
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,950
to the Supreme Court, because I
want to. So this was a foregone

1008
00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:51,120
conclusion, nobody mentions that
they don't. Nobody in any of

1009
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,170
these three reports even
discusses the mechanism here, or

1010
00:55:55,170 --> 00:56:00,030
reads the one terse line saying
send it back. They all tell you

1011
00:56:00,030 --> 00:56:02,880
about the Supreme Court in one
sentence, send it back, but they

1012
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,510
never read us the sentence. Here
we go. Now we go to CBS with

1013
00:56:06,510 --> 00:56:11,640
Robert Costa. And it's going to
be a little different they, they

1014
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,670
change it up a bit, but they
don't change it up. In this

1015
00:56:14,670 --> 00:56:18,180
case, they don't change it up
enough and they don't bring in

1016
00:56:18,180 --> 00:56:20,160
anything new today's Supreme

1017
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,570
Unknown: Court order could delay
the march 2024 Start of Trump's

1018
00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:28,770
trial on charges of interfering
in the 2020 presidential

1019
00:56:28,770 --> 00:56:32,670
election. The immunity issue
will be heard by an appeals

1020
00:56:32,670 --> 00:56:36,990
court in the second week of
January, and now a potentially

1021
00:56:36,990 --> 00:56:40,500
stunning development. The
Detroit News reports it has

1022
00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:45,420
heard a recording of a November
17 2020 phone call where Trump

1023
00:56:45,420 --> 00:56:49,620
pressures to Wayne County
officials who heard the

1024
00:56:49,620 --> 00:56:52,200
recording of a November's
backing up

1025
00:56:52,350 --> 00:56:55,230
John C Dvorak: Detroit News Oh
Detroit News newspaper guy

1026
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,770
supposedly heard her recording
now it's now I have to say the

1027
00:56:58,770 --> 00:57:04,710
CBS is the only one who read who
refuses to say we can't verify

1028
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:08,460
the other two networks say we
can't verify this recording or

1029
00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:12,420
that it even exists. CBS just
passes it through as though it

1030
00:57:12,420 --> 00:57:13,590
exists for sure.

1031
00:57:13,650 --> 00:57:17,460
Adam Curry: Or we could actually
say without evidence. Without

1032
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,060
without evidence CBS reported
without evidence development.

1033
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:24,930
Unknown: Detroit News reports.
It has heard a recording of a

1034
00:57:24,930 --> 00:57:29,580
November 17 2020 phone call
where Trump pressures to Wayne

1035
00:57:29,580 --> 00:57:33,570
County officials, Monica Palmer
and William Hartman to not

1036
00:57:33,570 --> 00:57:37,470
certify the 2020 election. The
paper also says Republican

1037
00:57:37,470 --> 00:57:41,250
National Committee Chairwoman
Ronna McDaniel was on the call.

1038
00:57:41,370 --> 00:57:44,880
If you go home tonight do not
sign it. The paper reports

1039
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,930
McDaniel told the officials we
will get you attorneys Trump

1040
00:57:48,930 --> 00:57:53,850
told them to fight said it would
be terrible if they certified. I

1041
00:57:53,850 --> 00:57:54,480
must not.

1042
00:57:55,860 --> 00:57:58,590
John C Dvorak: Now, if you had
to pull it back a little bit. I

1043
00:57:58,590 --> 00:58:00,510
have to say they haven't
listened to this for the

1044
00:58:00,510 --> 00:58:04,860
umpteenth time. I would say this
was new information because what

1045
00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:09,090
he said was that it was
McDaniel, Ronna McDaniels, who's

1046
00:58:09,090 --> 00:58:13,950
the one who pressured them to
not sign not not Trump. Exactly.

1047
00:58:14,460 --> 00:58:18,360
Now this wasn't this was okay.
But this is interesting. So I

1048
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:19,230
can continue sorry

1049
00:58:19,230 --> 00:58:22,320
Unknown: go home tonight. Do not
sign it. The paper reports

1050
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,340
McDaniel told the officials we
will get you attorneys Trump

1051
00:58:26,340 --> 00:58:30,420
told them to fight said it would
be terrible if they certified

1052
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,080
and said they must not let these
people take our country away

1053
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,610
from us. The call was detailed
in the house. Yeah, yeah,

1054
00:58:38,610 --> 00:58:42,570
absolutely. But yeah, fide and
said they must not let these

1055
00:58:42,570 --> 00:58:46,740
people take our country away
from us. The call was detailed

1056
00:58:46,740 --> 00:58:50,010
in the House Select committees
January 6 report, but the

1057
00:58:50,010 --> 00:58:54,030
existence of audio was not
previously known. In the report,

1058
00:58:54,030 --> 00:58:57,420
Palmer told investigators she
could not recall what exactly

1059
00:58:57,420 --> 00:59:01,980
Trump said or if he raised
election issues. Palmer has said

1060
00:59:01,980 --> 00:59:03,870
she was trying to protect the
vote

1061
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:06,900
make sure every vote is counted
whether it's a Republican or

1062
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:07,560
Democrat,

1063
00:59:07,620 --> 00:59:10,830
a Trump spokesman said Trump's
actions were within his duty as

1064
00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:14,430
president and an attempt to
ensure election integrity. In a

1065
00:59:14,430 --> 00:59:17,370
statement McDaniel said that at
the time there was ample

1066
00:59:17,370 --> 00:59:20,460
evidence that warranted an
audit. Special Counsel Jack

1067
00:59:20,460 --> 00:59:23,820
Smith has been investigating how
Trump worked to throw President

1068
00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:26,970
Biden's victory into doubt and
spark chaos during the

1069
00:59:26,970 --> 00:59:30,510
congressional certification
often by leaning on Republicans

1070
00:59:30,510 --> 00:59:34,350
in key states to declare trump
the victor Smith's office

1071
00:59:34,350 --> 00:59:35,400
declined to comment

1072
00:59:36,570 --> 00:59:42,150
Adam Curry: week. He declined to
comment. Okay. Yeah, exactly the

1073
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:47,460
same report this. I mean, this
is really the reporting on the

1074
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,290
what the Detroit Herald what was
it to Detroit News, Detroit

1075
00:59:52,290 --> 00:59:56,670
News, so they're commenting on
something they read online. Oh,

1076
00:59:56,670 --> 00:59:58,440
I see a tweet from No no, they

1077
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,780
John C Dvorak: all say all the
reports say that they heard the

1078
01:00:00,780 --> 01:00:06,180
tape. The news somehow I don't
know what the news they never

1079
01:00:06,180 --> 01:00:09,660
say. It's not the home of
operation, obviously. But they

1080
01:00:09,660 --> 01:00:14,880
said they heard a tape. That's
the breaking news that this tape

1081
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:15,900
exists.

1082
01:00:16,140 --> 01:00:18,570
Adam Curry: Oh, that's like the
P tape and all the other tapes

1083
01:00:18,570 --> 01:00:18,930
out of

1084
01:00:18,930 --> 01:00:21,420
John C Dvorak: trouble. Yeah.
And if it's such a Why didn't

1085
01:00:21,450 --> 01:00:26,490
Why does Detroit News post the
tape? Yeah, exactly. How hard

1086
01:00:26,490 --> 01:00:29,340
can that be? They have a
website. They could post the

1087
01:00:29,340 --> 01:00:32,070
tape well heard this is what
they heard.

1088
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:34,020
Adam Curry: Yeah. This someone
just played over the phone. This

1089
01:00:34,020 --> 01:00:44,040
is bullcrap. Yeah. Well, in this
vein, with former President

1090
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,790
Trump being taken off the
Colorado ballot, I see yes, I

1091
01:00:47,790 --> 01:00:52,170
think it's time to to go to our
friends.

1092
01:00:52,350 --> 01:00:54,060
John C Dvorak: You take him off
the ballot to protect a

1093
01:00:54,060 --> 01:00:54,960
democracy

1094
01:00:57,510 --> 01:01:01,590
Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR

1095
01:01:02,610 --> 01:01:06,150
Adam Curry: or PBS. It's
actually NPR and it is clearly

1096
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:09,960
the B team. The B team is loose,
because everyone's off for

1097
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,750
Christmas holiday. So we can
just go crazy and we can just

1098
01:01:12,750 --> 01:01:13,920
say whatever we want.

1099
01:01:13,950 --> 01:01:16,560
Unknown: violent rhetoric is
raging in some corners of the

1100
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:17,550
internet, right?

1101
01:01:17,610 --> 01:01:19,620
Adam Curry: I mean, come on.
When you start a report with

1102
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,630
violent rhetoric is raging. I
mean, that's good stuff. That

1103
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:25,500
script writing.

1104
01:01:26,580 --> 01:01:30,090
John C Dvorak: The news would be
no violent rhetoric was raging

1105
01:01:30,090 --> 01:01:32,430
on parts of the internet. That
would be actual news.

1106
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,520
Adam Curry: It's Chad GPT.
Writing their scripts,

1107
01:01:35,550 --> 01:01:38,190
Unknown: violent rhetoric is
raging in some corners of the

1108
01:01:38,190 --> 01:01:40,140
internet after this week's some
corners

1109
01:01:40,140 --> 01:01:43,230
Adam Curry: of the internet.
Okay, so what is a corner of the

1110
01:01:43,230 --> 01:01:46,770
internet that just to be
nitpicky about it? What is that

1111
01:01:46,770 --> 01:01:46,920
there

1112
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,380
John C Dvorak: is no such thing
as a corner of the internet.

1113
01:01:49,620 --> 01:01:52,860
Adam Curry: Well, in some
corners, there's not just a

1114
01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:55,680
corner there's some corners. Not
a

1115
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,020
John C Dvorak: corners, maybe
multiple corners. Well, that can

1116
01:01:58,020 --> 01:02:01,320
only be four. How many?
sneakily? Yeah, you can only

1117
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,990
have no you can have what about
your head a hexagon or

1118
01:02:03,990 --> 01:02:06,330
Adam Curry: ruler? Okay. Then
you got multiple corners. You

1119
01:02:06,330 --> 01:02:06,990
got wedges

1120
01:02:07,020 --> 01:02:09,660
Unknown: violent rhetoric is
raging in some corners of the

1121
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:11,700
internet after this week's
historic ruling from the

1122
01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:15,060
Colorado Supreme Court after
judges barred Donald Trump from

1123
01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:17,910
the state's primary ballot. Some
supporters of the former

1124
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:20,490
president are fuming over the
decision

1125
01:02:24,060 --> 01:02:24,960
Adam Curry: fuming

1126
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,350
Unknown: rulemaking and have
begun circulating personal

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01:02:28,350 --> 01:02:32,370
information about Colorado
Supreme Court justices who ruled

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01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,810
against Trump. Some are even
calling for civil war. Ah,

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01:02:36,810 --> 01:02:40,980
Adam Curry: there it is. Some
are calling for Civil War

1130
01:02:41,310 --> 01:02:43,380
John C Dvorak: by over color
right. Anything going on in

1131
01:02:43,380 --> 01:02:45,900
Colorado? Really? Let me let me
guess

1132
01:02:45,930 --> 01:02:50,070
Adam Curry: this has to be far
right is the far right how far

1133
01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:51,210
far

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01:02:51,540 --> 01:02:54,570
Unknown: who ruled against
Trump? Some are even calling for

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01:02:54,570 --> 01:02:59,310
Civil War NPR domestic extremism
correspondent whoa, hold

1136
01:02:59,310 --> 01:03:06,630
Adam Curry: on. A second. NPR
NPR domestic extremism

1137
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:07,860
correspondent.

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01:03:08,670 --> 01:03:11,040
John C Dvorak: So how much
domestic extremism is this

1139
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,090
person covering

1140
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,060
Adam Curry: enough to have a
title enough to get paid to do

1141
01:03:15,060 --> 01:03:15,330
this

1142
01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:17,430
John C Dvorak: great business
card

1143
01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:20,400
Adam Curry: I have. What do you
do? I'm a domestic extremism

1144
01:03:20,460 --> 01:03:24,780
correspondent for NPR your
national treasure. Wow. Nice to

1145
01:03:24,780 --> 01:03:27,150
meet you. Wait until you hear
this jabroni are

1146
01:03:27,150 --> 01:03:31,020
Unknown: even calling for civil
war. NPR domestic extremism

1147
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:34,380
correspondent Odette Youssef is
here to tell us more I owe debt.

1148
01:03:34,380 --> 01:03:37,290
Yousef, I was reading some of
this debt. And I don't know I've

1149
01:03:37,290 --> 01:03:40,320
seen all this before. And then I
thought to myself, That's not

1150
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:40,710
good.

1151
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:44,250
Adam Curry: That's not good.
Because, you know, because I'm

1152
01:03:44,250 --> 01:03:47,070
going to editorialize everything
because no one's listening.

1153
01:03:47,130 --> 01:03:51,000
Unknown: Yeah, I mean, a on some
of these forums, this kind of

1154
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:51,360
talking.

1155
01:03:51,780 --> 01:03:54,570
Adam Curry: Right, hold on far
right platforms.

1156
01:03:56,010 --> 01:03:57,150
John C Dvorak: That would be
Fox.

1157
01:03:58,590 --> 01:04:01,470
Adam Curry: I'm thinking X,
Rumble

1158
01:04:01,470 --> 01:04:06,840
John C Dvorak: X, X and rumble
rumble Bridey. On Yeah. And bit

1159
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,370
shoot, which you? Yeah,

1160
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,430
Unknown: I mean, a on some of
these far right platforms. This

1161
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:13,290
kind of talk is everyday stuff.

1162
01:04:14,310 --> 01:04:17,070
Adam Curry: Listen to the
editorializing. It's everyday

1163
01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:22,680
stuff. It's my job on the on the
far right corner platform, a

1164
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:27,030
domestic terrorist extremist
correspondent, it's everyday

1165
01:04:27,030 --> 01:04:30,030
stuff. My job. Oh, so hard.

1166
01:04:30,180 --> 01:04:33,360
Unknown: Yeah. I mean, a on some
of these far right platforms.

1167
01:04:33,570 --> 01:04:37,890
This kind of talk is everyday
stuff. But when there are events

1168
01:04:37,890 --> 01:04:41,790
that affect Trump adversely,
whether it's an indictment or

1169
01:04:41,790 --> 01:04:46,080
say the search of his property
at Mar a Lago, it spikes and so

1170
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,990
this time, you know, we're
seeing claims online that this

1171
01:04:48,990 --> 01:04:52,140
is a Democratic Party conspiracy
to interfere in the election.

1172
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,370
We're seeing calls to arm up or
to hurt or even killed perceived

1173
01:04:56,370 --> 01:05:01,770
political foes. barma armor up.
You know, so far people

1174
01:05:01,770 --> 01:05:04,710
monitoring these spaces say
they're not seeing indications

1175
01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:07,710
of a credible or imminent
threat. Hold on, listen,

1176
01:05:07,710 --> 01:05:08,820
John C Dvorak: what's the story?

1177
01:05:09,900 --> 01:05:13,110
Adam Curry: Arm up civil war,
but so far people monitoring

1178
01:05:13,110 --> 01:05:17,340
these spaces. Isn't that your
job correspondent? I know this

1179
01:05:17,340 --> 01:05:18,120
is confusing,

1180
01:05:18,150 --> 01:05:19,890
Unknown: but they also caution
that this doesn't mean it should

1181
01:05:19,890 --> 01:05:20,520
be ignored.

1182
01:05:20,550 --> 01:05:23,160
So yeah, authorities still want
to be watchful then. Oh, yeah,

1183
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:23,580
of course.

1184
01:05:23,610 --> 01:05:27,390
I mean, you may recall that
after the MAR a Lago search, for

1185
01:05:27,390 --> 01:05:31,590
example, online rhetoric heated
up, and there was an individual

1186
01:05:31,590 --> 01:05:35,880
who attacked an FBI field office
in Cincinnati. So it is

1187
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,280
important to understand how the
baseline threat level is

1188
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:39,000
evolving.

1189
01:05:39,030 --> 01:05:42,870
John C Dvorak: Was that guy a
left winger? Listen, no

1190
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:45,720
connection between the field
office in Cincinnati? What's

1191
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,450
that got to do with anything in
Florida? I don't think like at

1192
01:05:48,450 --> 01:05:50,910
some place, some screwball. No,
I

1193
01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:52,890
Adam Curry: don't remember even
that store. I

1194
01:05:52,890 --> 01:05:55,290
John C Dvorak: do remember some
somebody did you threw a brick

1195
01:05:55,290 --> 01:05:58,590
through the window or something
like that? Well,

1196
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,140
Adam Curry: there's a second
part to this. It just gets

1197
01:06:01,140 --> 01:06:01,710
better.

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01:06:02,010 --> 01:06:04,560
Unknown: You know, one person I
spoke to who's been keeping an

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01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,340
eye on this online activity is
Daniel J. Jones. He's with the

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01:06:08,370 --> 01:06:11,040
nonpartisan nonprofit advanced
democracy.

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01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:16,230
John C Dvorak: Yeah, right. Hold
it. Run organization have ever

1202
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:17,730
heard had Vance.

1203
01:06:17,790 --> 01:06:20,070
Adam Curry: Let's just take a
look at advanced democracy.

1204
01:06:20,220 --> 01:06:27,210
Let's just do this in real.
Advanced democracy Inc is an

1205
01:06:27,210 --> 01:06:30,210
independent, nonpartisan non for
profit organization that

1206
01:06:30,210 --> 01:06:33,630
conducts public policy in my
search. And let's just take a

1207
01:06:33,630 --> 01:06:35,880
look. Let's see, what do they
have? They don't where's that?

1208
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,360
Where's their about? Where's
their boots page? They don't

1209
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,040
even have an A boots? Of

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01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,050
John C Dvorak: course not.
Please wait, hold on. Is there a

1211
01:06:43,050 --> 01:06:44,430
boot is act blue.

1212
01:06:44,820 --> 01:06:47,610
Adam Curry: That's what I'm
thinking. Now. I've gone to the

1213
01:06:47,610 --> 01:06:51,600
dashboard. For advanced
democracy. Let's see tracking

1214
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,200
political donations in the
complex, complex Us campaign

1215
01:06:55,200 --> 01:07:01,170
finance system. That's what they
do. Search by DOE, ma'am. So

1216
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,680
they basically just open
opensecrets.org They just take

1217
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:05,580
from their stuff.

1218
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:10,200
John C Dvorak: This is this is a
lame looking website. This

1219
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,860
Adam Curry: is weak. This is
weak. So but I mean,

1220
01:07:13,890 --> 01:07:17,190
John C Dvorak: how is the
source? Yeah,

1221
01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:19,380
Adam Curry: I don't understand
what they do. climat. And

1222
01:07:19,410 --> 01:07:21,750
John C Dvorak: Clint looks like
a fake web. It these guys don't

1223
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:23,460
even look real. They have

1224
01:07:24,330 --> 01:07:26,550
Adam Curry: Climate and
Environment Program, government

1225
01:07:26,550 --> 01:07:30,060
accountability, corruption
program. Global Oh, global

1226
01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:33,600
extremism program. We weren't
let's be it oh, here it is. We

1227
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,540
work to identify and document
the growth, reach and influence

1228
01:07:36,540 --> 01:07:41,040
of violent extremist groups, as
well as political rhetoric in

1229
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,980
the United States and Europe
targeting communities of color

1230
01:07:44,010 --> 01:07:48,150
immigrants, the LGBTQ
population, and religious

1231
01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:52,230
minorities desmi that has
contributed to protecting me

1232
01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:56,370
that has contributed to a surge
in global hate crimes. Hold on,

1233
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,520
hold on a second advanced now.
We've got to do this homeless

1234
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,810
second. If they are nonprofit,
then they have advanced

1235
01:08:03,810 --> 01:08:08,010
democracy than they have. And
that was a sea advance.

1236
01:08:08,340 --> 01:08:14,130
Democracy. Okay. Let's see. Then
they have a Oh, where are they?

1237
01:08:14,130 --> 01:08:19,500
It's funny. Advanced democracy,
Inc. Okay. They, yeah, they got

1238
01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:28,380
to $2.3 million in 2022. So I'll
have to look at their 990 see

1239
01:08:28,380 --> 01:08:31,110
what they're up to. They have
four point a $5 million in

1240
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:35,160
assets. Let me tell you, that's
more than this show. Yep. So

1241
01:08:35,220 --> 01:08:36,090
anyway, let's continue.

1242
01:08:36,330 --> 01:08:38,940
Unknown: He says he's not just
watching the uptick in violent

1243
01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:40,320
language. I think it's

1244
01:08:40,649 --> 01:08:43,379
really concerning that we're not
seeing pushback against this

1245
01:08:43,379 --> 01:08:45,809
language. We're not seeing
pushback against dehumanizing

1246
01:08:45,809 --> 01:08:49,709
language from the presumptive
Republican nominee. We're not

1247
01:08:49,709 --> 01:08:52,499
seeing pushback from language
from political leaders on the

1248
01:08:52,499 --> 01:08:53,099
right. What do

1249
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:55,830
Adam Curry: you mean, we're not
seeing pushback? The mainstream

1250
01:08:55,830 --> 01:09:00,750
media Going Ape ape crap over
this? Well, we said vermin all

1251
01:09:00,750 --> 01:09:05,580
he he quoted Hitler all he's
parroting Putin. What do you

1252
01:09:05,580 --> 01:09:08,970
mean, we're not seeing pushback?
What are you talking about?

1253
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,160
John C Dvorak: Dude, I heard I
was listening to somebody on one

1254
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,850
of these networks. And she
actually said that was a quote

1255
01:09:14,850 --> 01:09:18,120
and which we debunked already
and didn't get the clip. But she

1256
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,160
says it was a quote from mine
come

1257
01:09:20,190 --> 01:09:23,250
Adam Curry: Yes. We looked at
mine comp, we got our own

1258
01:09:23,250 --> 01:09:24,180
personal copy, you

1259
01:09:24,180 --> 01:09:25,230
John C Dvorak: can get on a PDF.

1260
01:09:27,029 --> 01:09:29,009
Adam Curry: I have it in the
bookshelf right next to it. You

1261
01:09:29,010 --> 01:09:31,440
John C Dvorak: can search the
PDF faster right next to the

1262
01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:32,070
manifesto

1263
01:09:32,069 --> 01:09:34,079
Adam Curry: from the Unabomber.
Come on, people you gotta read

1264
01:09:34,079 --> 01:09:34,799
all that stuff.

1265
01:09:34,829 --> 01:09:37,469
Unknown: We're seeing the
mainstreaming of this extremism

1266
01:09:37,469 --> 01:09:40,319
and this this encouragement of
violence and right wing media.

1267
01:09:40,589 --> 01:09:40,799
And

1268
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,050
I, you know, hear this across
the board when I speak to

1269
01:09:43,050 --> 01:09:48,120
extremism researchers, you know,
our job. Our job is violence

1270
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,410
from the right, and they

1271
01:09:49,890 --> 01:09:52,230
John C Dvorak: stop it again.
You know, this idea that there's

1272
01:09:52,230 --> 01:09:56,010
getting no pushback is, is
really getting on my nerves

1273
01:09:56,010 --> 01:10:01,080
because all you get is pushback.
Trump says did my Ain't no minor

1274
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:06,060
thing and I'm in an ad libbing a
speech in Iowa, and they jump

1275
01:10:06,060 --> 01:10:10,320
all over him. These people are
either living in an unbelievably

1276
01:10:10,410 --> 01:10:13,710
what they mean by no pushback.
They mean that the entire

1277
01:10:13,710 --> 01:10:17,820
country doesn't rebuke Trump and
his numbers go to zero. Yes,

1278
01:10:17,820 --> 01:10:21,660
Adam Curry: correct. Correct.
Oh, sec. Let me look at this.

1279
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:28,110
This lady. Oh, dead Yussuf. Here
she is Odette Yusuf. Let me see

1280
01:10:28,110 --> 01:10:32,610
what her deal is. She's a
domestic up there it is. NPR.

1281
01:10:32,610 --> 01:10:36,780
She has a page domestic
extremism correspondent. It says

1282
01:10:36,780 --> 01:10:41,280
that on there. Is that right on
her page? A debt. Youssef is a

1283
01:10:41,310 --> 01:10:44,790
NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT
focusing on extremism. All

1284
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:47,910
right, but it says domestic
extremism correspondent in her

1285
01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:51,990
reporting. Yousef claims to
explore click Oh aims, aims to

1286
01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:55,800
explore how extremist ideas
break into the mainstream. Yeah,

1287
01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:59,820
on NPR. How individuals are
radicalized and efforts to

1288
01:10:59,820 --> 01:11:02,640
counter that. Well, so far. We
haven't heard any of that she

1289
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:07,830
comes from WBEZ in Chicago,
where she most recently was part

1290
01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:12,900
of the race class and identity
team. Oh, she must have dynamite

1291
01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:16,680
business cards. I'm part of the
race class and identity team

1292
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:22,020
also known as RCI. While there
she was reporter for host and

1293
01:11:22,020 --> 01:11:26,970
host for season three of WBCs
investigative podcast motive.

1294
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:35,700
Won the 2021 Edward R. Murrow
award. Podcast Yes. explores the

1295
01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:39,060
emergence and spread of the neo
Nazi skinhead movement in the

1296
01:11:39,060 --> 01:11:40,980
US. It's been a while

1297
01:11:42,150 --> 01:11:44,910
John C Dvorak: probably for 20
years. It's been a while since

1298
01:11:44,910 --> 01:11:47,850
I've seen a skinhead. I mean,
you see him on TV shows

1299
01:11:47,910 --> 01:11:50,370
Adam Curry: you know those guys
that January 6, the Feds they

1300
01:11:50,370 --> 01:11:52,710
were skinhead kind of guys they
all had the same

1301
01:11:52,740 --> 01:11:55,740
John C Dvorak: crew cut shortcut
in those guys. So there's a skin

1302
01:11:55,740 --> 01:11:57,150
his she was also part of

1303
01:11:57,150 --> 01:12:00,150
Adam Curry: the team that in
2016 won the national Edward R.

1304
01:12:00,150 --> 01:12:04,200
Murrow Award for Best continuing
coverage and receives a 2018

1305
01:12:04,290 --> 01:12:07,440
Studs Terkel Community Media
Award.

1306
01:12:08,130 --> 01:12:11,220
John C Dvorak: She's an award
winner. She's also an IMDB, by

1307
01:12:11,220 --> 01:12:14,700
the way. Oh, is she now this is
so you can go there and she does

1308
01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:19,770
have the motive podcast series
listed in 2019. And that's the

1309
01:12:19,770 --> 01:12:22,140
only she's gonna think she's
really got on there. But that

1310
01:12:22,140 --> 01:12:27,270
just shows you that people that
that executive producer show can

1311
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:28,980
get on here too. So yeah, so

1312
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,590
Adam Curry: you're you're She's
no better than you people.

1313
01:12:31,620 --> 01:12:32,700
That's what we're saying. Sure

1314
01:12:32,700 --> 01:12:35,010
Unknown: is, you know, exactly
what they are concerned about is

1315
01:12:35,010 --> 01:12:38,010
violence from the right. And
they say that if high profile

1316
01:12:38,010 --> 01:12:40,890
figures would just clearly
disavow that violence that some

1317
01:12:40,890 --> 01:12:43,320
are calling for it could really
helped bring the temperature

1318
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:43,770
down.

1319
01:12:44,490 --> 01:12:48,690
Adam Curry: Everyone is this
high profile figures need to

1320
01:12:48,690 --> 01:12:54,630
disavow that violent rhetoric
that is raging? Well, I that's

1321
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:55,680
all I ever later

1322
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,720
John C Dvorak: Island rhetoric
from Trump,

1323
01:12:58,020 --> 01:12:58,530
Adam Curry: vermin.

1324
01:12:59,010 --> 01:13:02,880
John C Dvorak: Vermin Berman,
and so we had to poisoning doing

1325
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,610
anything. What did they Are they
kidding these people?

1326
01:13:06,060 --> 01:13:08,010
Unknown: But when it comes to
this ruling in Colorado, I mean,

1327
01:13:08,010 --> 01:13:11,220
many are expecting that the
ruling from that court may not

1328
01:13:11,220 --> 01:13:14,520
be the final word on this or any
acknowledge Oh, no.

1329
01:13:15,150 --> 01:13:18,780
Yes. In fact, I spoke with
Katherine Keneally of another

1330
01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:22,680
organization, the Institute for
Strategic Dialogue. Oh,

1331
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:23,580
John C Dvorak: another one.

1332
01:13:27,150 --> 01:13:34,650
Adam Curry: Institute I should
have done this earlier, the

1333
01:13:34,650 --> 01:13:37,680
Institute for Strategic
Dialogue. Let's see. Let's see.

1334
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:43,020
ISD is ISD global.org. All
right, a boot. They got an A

1335
01:13:43,020 --> 01:13:47,460
boot page. That power of oh,
here's their slogan powering

1336
01:13:47,460 --> 01:13:51,090
solutions to extremism, hate and
disinformation. They got

1337
01:13:51,090 --> 01:13:54,420
solutions. They have solutions.
Yeah.

1338
01:13:54,420 --> 01:13:57,240
John C Dvorak: And I'm noticing
that looks like the code base

1339
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,290
for this particular website is
very similar to the one you just

1340
01:14:01,290 --> 01:14:02,430
used. Yeah.

1341
01:14:02,460 --> 01:14:06,480
Adam Curry: Okay, so let me look
at the donate page. Let's see

1342
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:12,900
where they have. You can donate
in US dollars. Oh, they have a

1343
01:14:12,990 --> 01:14:17,310
Oh they've got all kinds of
donate in in Euro this a big

1344
01:14:17,310 --> 01:14:18,180
outfit man.

1345
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:20,730
John C Dvorak: You know this
this outfit is much bigger than

1346
01:14:20,730 --> 01:14:22,590
another one that was a front for
these are

1347
01:14:22,590 --> 01:14:24,870
Adam Curry: the dudes These are
big guys. Yeah, these are the

1348
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:28,170
guys. Let me just see. Let's
look at their board for a second

1349
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:34,350
just to make sure we can see got
UK Boardman. Where's our UK in

1350
01:14:34,350 --> 01:14:35,100
Germany?

1351
01:14:35,700 --> 01:14:38,520
John C Dvorak: Interest Yeah, in
fact, I have this website site

1352
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,810
is in German German.

1353
01:14:39,810 --> 01:14:44,640
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. They got
other Oh man. They got a lot of

1354
01:14:45,210 --> 01:14:49,530
lot of Germans. I don't see any.
Any funny names that we read.

1355
01:14:49,530 --> 01:14:53,970
These are a lot of white women
here. Do you know what? Their

1356
01:14:53,970 --> 01:14:56,880
racist? They got? No black
people. Oh, there's one Sameen

1357
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,450
Zehra the youth civic action
coordinator. Wow, this is racist

1358
01:15:00,450 --> 01:15:03,540
outfit. They have no people of
color.

1359
01:15:03,570 --> 01:15:04,980
Unknown: And she said she
noticed this.

1360
01:15:05,190 --> 01:15:09,720
We can also see a large number
of people posts statements that

1361
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,320
they weren't concerned because
they believe that the US Supreme

1362
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,140
Court is going to shoot it down
anyways. So oh

1363
01:15:16,140 --> 01:15:19,740
Adam Curry: my god anyways,
anyway, where are you from?

1364
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:24,810
Unknown: frame that I started
seeing was the user, nothing

1365
01:15:24,810 --> 01:15:28,650
burger, nothing violent. You
know, this is still very

1366
01:15:28,650 --> 01:15:32,250
concerning to people who care
about democracy, right? Because,

1367
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:33,330
you know, even when

1368
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,900
John C Dvorak: people's name off
the ballot, that's that spells

1369
01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:38,520
democracy, even

1370
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,340
Unknown: absent violence, you
know, this is still very

1371
01:15:41,340 --> 01:15:45,000
concerning to people who care
about democracy, right? Because,

1372
01:15:45,090 --> 01:15:47,640
right, you know, even when
threats of violence against

1373
01:15:48,030 --> 01:15:52,290
judges voters, really, anyone
participating in civic life,

1374
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,340
become normal, that can have a
chilling effect. You

1375
01:15:56,340 --> 01:16:00,750
know, obviously, I read I read
The New York Times, like all day

1376
01:16:00,750 --> 01:16:04,230
long, mainly on my iPad.

1377
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:09,150
Adam Curry: So Tina, yesterday,
she says, You know, I was

1378
01:16:09,150 --> 01:16:11,670
watching an interview with
Whitney Webb and she's, she's

1379
01:16:11,670 --> 01:16:17,550
kind of saying the same thing.
You are said Nope. Nope. Then so

1380
01:16:17,550 --> 01:16:20,910
she's we sit down to watch it.
And she's been making the

1381
01:16:20,910 --> 01:16:27,270
rounds. And spoiler alert,
neither of us like Whitney Webb.

1382
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:33,600
And, and so I'm watching this.
And she literally talks out of

1383
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,460
the side of her mouth. Now this
is new.

1384
01:16:36,570 --> 01:16:39,330
John C Dvorak: She's, it's been
developing, it

1385
01:16:39,330 --> 01:16:41,520
Adam Curry: wasn't that way. And
now it's just just this

1386
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:47,550
continuous smirk. And I'm not
sure why people are so enamored

1387
01:16:47,550 --> 01:16:49,620
with it, because she's not
really saying anything other

1388
01:16:49,620 --> 01:16:54,870
than well, they're gonna bring
in the CDC to control everybody

1389
01:16:54,990 --> 01:16:59,190
through a cyber event, the
banks, and it's all planned to

1390
01:16:59,190 --> 01:17:05,670
the west, the West. So, so we're
watching and and I said, Well,

1391
01:17:05,670 --> 01:17:08,880
let me see what you're looking
at. And she was on Jimmy Dore,

1392
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,780
but this was a different one.
This was oh, this was Peter

1393
01:17:12,780 --> 01:17:16,650
McCormick from what Bitcoin did.
He's a he's a big Bitcoin guy.

1394
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,580
Nice guy. I've been on the show
a couple times. But every five

1395
01:17:20,580 --> 01:17:23,310
seconds when he's going, right,
yeah, we're just gonna be shy.

1396
01:17:23,310 --> 01:17:26,790
We're when we're the West.
Right? And so I go, right. And

1397
01:17:27,540 --> 01:17:31,680
that's it. I'm not watching with
you anymore. She I can't handle

1398
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,070
how you how you hate her. I
don't hate her. No, we don't

1399
01:17:35,070 --> 01:17:36,450
hate her. I don't hate her.

1400
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,240
John C Dvorak: But you know,
she's derivative. She doesn't

1401
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,300
even live in the United States.
And she's making, you know,

1402
01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:46,350
doing this analysis. So she's
not in the milieu. So she can't

1403
01:17:46,350 --> 01:17:50,700
pick up on anything going on.
And and she's everything she's

1404
01:17:50,940 --> 01:17:53,610
done, somebody else has done
before. And when people call her

1405
01:17:53,610 --> 01:17:56,700
out, and I have a website, I
keep sending people to I don't

1406
01:17:56,700 --> 01:18:01,620
have it handy him. Dead Buster,
because it was an old Whitney

1407
01:18:01,620 --> 01:18:05,760
Webb fan that found that she
won't, you know that she's

1408
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,700
actually ruined people. She's
not a good person.

1409
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:12,000
Adam Curry: And then she
continues going on and on about,

1410
01:18:12,180 --> 01:18:15,510
you know, they want to control
us by making, making it forcing

1411
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:21,090
us to, to use our real job
government ID for social media,

1412
01:18:21,210 --> 01:18:23,670
and they want to control you and
then then you'll sign up for

1413
01:18:23,670 --> 01:18:26,790
your internet at home, and then
they'll know everything you're

1414
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:33,510
watching. Hello, where are you
been? Where have you been? It's

1415
01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:38,550
just like, and I don't want to
pick on her but crikey, man.

1416
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:41,970
It's like, it's like the
redacted people. Now, I'm not

1417
01:18:41,970 --> 01:18:46,260
interested in the redacted
people either. I'm kind of down

1418
01:18:46,260 --> 01:18:50,700
on all of these info Mavericks.
And there you go again, yes.

1419
01:18:50,700 --> 01:18:53,790
Well, because now people are
saying you're just crapping all

1420
01:18:53,790 --> 01:18:55,650
over them. Who should Who should
we do

1421
01:18:55,650 --> 01:18:56,400
Unknown: our urine?

1422
01:18:56,430 --> 01:18:58,230
Adam Curry: You know why? Hater?
I'm a hater. Dara,

1423
01:18:58,230 --> 01:19:01,170
John C Dvorak: right? You're a
hater. And you're crapping all

1424
01:19:01,170 --> 01:19:05,760
over the good people like
Whitney Webb and, and, and, and

1425
01:19:05,790 --> 01:19:09,120
Tim Poole, and all the rest of
these guys who are just trying

1426
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,690
to straighten people out. And
they mean well, they mean, well,

1427
01:19:12,990 --> 01:19:13,170
they

1428
01:19:13,170 --> 01:19:15,990
Adam Curry: do mean well, they
absolutely mean well. I think

1429
01:19:15,990 --> 01:19:18,330
they do mean well, but it's all
just it's like listening to

1430
01:19:18,330 --> 01:19:22,020
Twitter all day. It's like
there's nothing new it's it's

1431
01:19:22,050 --> 01:19:23,070
all by the

1432
01:19:23,070 --> 01:19:27,150
John C Dvorak: way. Do they mean
well? Well, or is it part of

1433
01:19:27,150 --> 01:19:30,780
something bigger? Well, then
they don't mean well.

1434
01:19:31,980 --> 01:19:34,380
Adam Curry: No, John dvorak.org
on that one.

1435
01:19:36,180 --> 01:19:39,120
John C Dvorak: Oh, of course is
suggesting the possibility

1436
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:39,780
exists.

1437
01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:43,110
Adam Curry: No, no one's getting
paid. You know. Like Whitney

1438
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:46,380
Webb comes from a billionaire
family. She's connected to the

1439
01:19:46,380 --> 01:19:51,510
Rockefellers, whatever is she
finds who cares? No one's

1440
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:55,080
getting paid to do this. That
well, they are by the way

1441
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:59,760
getting paid to keep you afraid
and keep us focused on why

1442
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,580
John C Dvorak: Yesterday they're
doing a good job of that would

1443
01:20:02,580 --> 01:20:04,920
actually unfortunately put your
buddy Alex Jones in that

1444
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:09,090
category speaking of speaking
of, but But before he go there,

1445
01:20:09,150 --> 01:20:12,540
I want to go back to this. I
just stumbled upon the I had

1446
01:20:12,540 --> 01:20:16,860
this ISD page. Yes. One of their
big things is to push back

1447
01:20:16,860 --> 01:20:21,870
against you if you remember the
right rice burger movement. Oh,

1448
01:20:21,870 --> 01:20:25,380
it was Germans, of course, that
was the German attended attempt

1449
01:20:25,380 --> 01:20:29,430
of German to overturn German
government by some one guy. So

1450
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:34,260
that was that 70 year old guys,
some 70 year old guy. And so

1451
01:20:34,260 --> 01:20:38,460
that's all part of it. So this
is part of this is a one world

1452
01:20:38,460 --> 01:20:41,250
government operation telling
you? Well,

1453
01:20:41,250 --> 01:20:43,320
Adam Curry: yes. That mean?
Well, the thing is, you just got

1454
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:47,310
to follow the money. If Whitney
Webb has a nonprofit, then then

1455
01:20:47,310 --> 01:20:50,580
I'll say okay, she's in audit,
but she's not. But she's, that's

1456
01:20:50,580 --> 01:20:55,290
like a fire fund a lot. You
know, the, the blonde girl. I

1457
01:20:55,290 --> 01:21:01,080
mean, she's, she's uniquely
beautiful to look at me. So

1458
01:21:01,110 --> 01:21:05,340
which one who? The Dutch girl
Eva? You know, she's married to

1459
01:21:05,370 --> 01:21:09,240
some guy from Prager, you. She's
in that whole group? Yeah,

1460
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,610
John C Dvorak: no, I don't know
her. Yes, you do. She was

1461
01:21:11,610 --> 01:21:17,160
Adam Curry: on Tucker. Yes, you
do. And you know, and so she she

1462
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,670
uses that the turning point USA
and saying your rights, you

1463
01:21:20,670 --> 01:21:24,060
know, are given by God. And I
was like, Oh, she's the best.

1464
01:21:24,570 --> 01:21:27,030
Oh, she's, she's Joan of Arc.

1465
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:29,910
John C Dvorak: I think most of
these guys, what they're saying

1466
01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:33,660
is already printed on the dollar
bill. I mean, it's not like it's

1467
01:21:33,660 --> 01:21:35,040
new information.

1468
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,740
Adam Curry: Now, but but that's
my point is I was like, yeah,

1469
01:21:37,770 --> 01:21:40,560
yeah. And all you're doing is
sitting around in a circle jerk

1470
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,700
going Yeah, yeah. You know, go
to your local community run for

1471
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:48,060
school board run for city
council do something productive.

1472
01:21:48,180 --> 01:21:51,900
These people are distracting
you. I love Alex Jones. I always

1473
01:21:51,900 --> 01:21:55,350
will. Been he he taught me a
lot. He's been right about a

1474
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:58,590
lot. Before we did the show was
listening to him. But when you

1475
01:21:58,590 --> 01:22:02,940
put him together with Mike
Adams, you get dynamite dynamite

1476
01:22:02,940 --> 01:22:04,110
content, all of

1477
01:22:04,110 --> 01:22:05,610
Unknown: you watching and
listening. We're all going to

1478
01:22:05,610 --> 01:22:09,720
have to become experts at
frankly, killing the Terminator

1479
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,190
robots that are trying to kill
us by

1480
01:22:11,190 --> 01:22:12,990
the way. That's the way the
world works for survival, the

1481
01:22:12,990 --> 01:22:15,240
fittest the globalist are going
to deploy this and see what

1482
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,210
happens. Yes, this is a big
contest. It's been decided we're

1483
01:22:18,210 --> 01:22:21,660
gonna face machines, rather,
sabotage and military wokeness

1484
01:22:21,810 --> 01:22:24,060
getting the humans out. So only
drones can fight the wars

1485
01:22:24,060 --> 01:22:25,080
because they'll follow the
orders.

1486
01:22:25,890 --> 01:22:28,440
And you're not gonna be able to
out shoot a terminator

1487
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:30,450
ballistically because they will
have built in ballistic

1488
01:22:30,450 --> 01:22:33,330
software. They will be able to
outrange you with rifles.

1489
01:22:33,450 --> 01:22:36,840
They'll have, you know, of
course, infrared cameras and so

1490
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,440
on. They'll be able to see you
at night so you don't go out at

1491
01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:44,310
night. Find a terminator. What
you do is you set traps for it

1492
01:22:44,460 --> 01:22:47,190
traps that where it can't
anticipate what's going to

1493
01:22:47,190 --> 01:22:49,740
happen. There's going to be a
whole field of knowledge about

1494
01:22:49,740 --> 01:22:54,420
how to kill terminators. You're
going to have autonomous flying

1495
01:22:54,420 --> 01:22:57,630
drones making decisions about
who to bomb and who to kill.

1496
01:22:57,870 --> 01:23:02,730
You're going to have autonomous
dog drones. And also, I call

1497
01:23:02,730 --> 01:23:05,190
them Terminator squirrels.
Believe it or not, because

1498
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,910
squirrel the size of a squirrel
is actually the best size on a

1499
01:23:08,910 --> 01:23:12,300
battlefield because it can go up
in a tree and it can traverse a

1500
01:23:12,300 --> 01:23:16,170
forest by leaping from tree to
tree, and it's very hard to stop

1501
01:23:16,170 --> 01:23:20,040
and it can carry about 100 gram
explosive. So these Terminator

1502
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,230
squirrels I'm not making this
No, that's mainstream.

1503
01:23:22,710 --> 01:23:25,170
Terminator squirrels will be
programmed to seek out enemy

1504
01:23:25,170 --> 01:23:28,410
soldiers to leap into their
faces, and then detonate in

1505
01:23:28,410 --> 01:23:31,860
their face a small charge to
kill them like a small grenade.

1506
01:23:31,980 --> 01:23:35,040
Okay, so those are going to be
unleashed on the battlefield

1507
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,830
very, very soon in the coming
few years.

1508
01:23:38,370 --> 01:23:40,290
Adam Curry: God can't wait. It's
coming.

1509
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,480
John C Dvorak: Holy moly,
where'd you get that?

1510
01:23:42,630 --> 01:23:43,650
Adam Curry: Um,

1511
01:23:44,610 --> 01:23:45,690
John C Dvorak: somebody sent it
to you.

1512
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:46,950
Adam Curry: The clip custodian
says

1513
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,220
John C Dvorak: we have maniacs
that listen to this. That is

1514
01:23:50,460 --> 01:23:56,340
your right. That's the kind of a
critical mass of craze those two

1515
01:23:56,340 --> 01:23:56,820
together it

1516
01:23:56,820 --> 01:23:59,250
Adam Curry: was on the Jones's
discord. I think that's where

1517
01:23:59,250 --> 01:24:04,770
that came. But so all I'm saying
is

1518
01:24:05,850 --> 01:24:07,860
John C Dvorak: you can't even
get these autonomous things to

1519
01:24:08,010 --> 01:24:09,780
go more than you know, have

1520
01:24:09,780 --> 01:24:10,530
Adam Curry: you seen even

1521
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,690
John C Dvorak: before the
battery goes dead? Did

1522
01:24:12,690 --> 01:24:15,750
Adam Curry: you see Elon Musk
optimum version version two.

1523
01:24:15,870 --> 01:24:18,900
It's a robot that walks like it
has to take a dump

1524
01:24:20,370 --> 01:24:23,280
John C Dvorak: they all they all
have that? All the robots isone

1525
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,460
robot most of them I've seen
have to walk they have to keep

1526
01:24:26,460 --> 01:24:28,800
out of swatting like they're
gonna take a dump belly they'll

1527
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:29,700
fall over

1528
01:24:31,260 --> 01:24:35,100
Adam Curry: just beware of false
idols people you know be careful

1529
01:24:35,100 --> 01:24:37,980
be careful with your with your
amygdala. Be careful with your

1530
01:24:37,980 --> 01:24:40,890
mind because that's the danger
all these people are great. I

1531
01:24:40,890 --> 01:24:41,220
mean,

1532
01:24:41,370 --> 01:24:43,920
John C Dvorak: it seems curl
jumping onto your face and

1533
01:24:43,950 --> 01:24:47,520
detonated individually. I mean,
can you duck it? Maybe could you

1534
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:48,330
duck the squirrel?

1535
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:53,370
Adam Curry: You know, you know
Jordan Peterson individually

1536
01:24:53,370 --> 01:24:56,940
these beads they're okay. But
they get into this like bar

1537
01:24:56,940 --> 01:25:02,700
right and everyone gets spun up
to Just get spun up. Easy does

1538
01:25:02,700 --> 01:25:07,830
it read a book? Now this is, um,
so now we have the following

1539
01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:11,490
this, this is a great, a great
hit piece, which was sent to me

1540
01:25:11,490 --> 01:25:15,660
as Oh, great Nikki Haley, super
cut bow. She's full of crap. And

1541
01:25:15,660 --> 01:25:20,520
she contradicts herself. Well,
this is clearly from Team Magga.

1542
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,620
They have hacked I mean, I'm
certainly not a Nikki Haley fan.

1543
01:25:25,890 --> 01:25:28,560
I think it's hilarious that
there's this rumor going around

1544
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,830
that Trump is talking to people
Hey, should I should I make her

1545
01:25:31,830 --> 01:25:36,360
my VP? Please? Yeah, that'll be
the day that's not gonna happen.

1546
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,870
That mean, she would have a
knife in his back within two

1547
01:25:39,870 --> 01:25:42,600
seconds. But then they put
together and by the

1548
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,580
John C Dvorak: way, before you
play this clip, I want to say

1549
01:25:44,580 --> 01:25:46,830
that I put it in the newsletter,
and I'm going to use it as a

1550
01:25:46,830 --> 01:25:51,630
theme for the next year, Trump,
and whoever the geniuses are,

1551
01:25:51,630 --> 01:25:56,550
that work on his campaign will
be developing all kinds of you

1552
01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:59,430
know, I think this is the reason
they came up with all these. I

1553
01:25:59,430 --> 01:26:02,190
think the Democrats know this,
and we hear a lot about all

1554
01:26:02,220 --> 01:26:05,820
misinformation, disinformation,
AI is gonna kill us all. Yeah,

1555
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:09,510
AI is going to be used by Trump
and his boys and the rest of

1556
01:26:09,510 --> 01:26:14,430
them and memes included, I got
the meme alert out to kick to

1557
01:26:14,430 --> 01:26:18,690
kick ass. And it's gonna be a
year of hilarity? Because like

1558
01:26:18,690 --> 01:26:23,370
you said, you agree with me on
this one thing about AI? It's

1559
01:26:23,370 --> 01:26:24,000
funny.

1560
01:26:24,330 --> 01:26:26,340
Adam Curry: Oh, but that's the
business model. What is the

1561
01:26:26,340 --> 01:26:30,840
business model of AI is comedy.
It's hilarious. The stuff that

1562
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,480
they're doing with existing AI,
you don't need anything more

1563
01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:36,390
than what's out there already.
You know, we can already kind of

1564
01:26:36,570 --> 01:26:40,260
do video and do voices. And you
know, as far as I'm concerned,

1565
01:26:40,260 --> 01:26:45,240
you can stop the development.
Although, wow, open AI, John is

1566
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:51,000
now in talks to raise funding at
a $100 billion valuation. But

1567
01:26:52,020 --> 01:26:57,450
now we see what's really going
on, know what the moneys for? It

1568
01:26:57,450 --> 01:27:02,430
is too. So they're raising
funding with Abu Dhabi based g

1569
01:27:02,430 --> 01:27:08,070
42. For a new chip venture.
That's we talked about this.

1570
01:27:08,070 --> 01:27:13,500
That's where the money is
compute. Let's make crazy big

1571
01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:16,860
things to take a lot of
processing power, tell people is

1572
01:27:16,860 --> 01:27:21,300
great. And then sell the chips
that do it. Yeah,

1573
01:27:21,390 --> 01:27:23,910
John C Dvorak: yeah. And this
soak the well, you won't be

1574
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:26,580
soaking in investors. You'll be
soaking the public when you go

1575
01:27:26,580 --> 01:27:27,540
public. Anyway.

1576
01:27:27,570 --> 01:27:30,690
Adam Curry: Now, back to your
global warming beat be damned.

1577
01:27:31,410 --> 01:27:32,910
Anyway, yeah, there's

1578
01:27:32,910 --> 01:27:33,570
John C Dvorak: a good point.

1579
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,920
Adam Curry: And here's the Nikki
Haley, hit the supercut.

1580
01:27:37,980 --> 01:27:42,330
Unknown: Not run as president
top right. I'm Nikki Haley, and

1581
01:27:42,330 --> 01:27:47,760
I'm running for president. I
will not, not now, not ever

1582
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:52,860
support raising the gas tax.
Let's increase the gas tax by 10

1583
01:27:52,860 --> 01:27:56,700
cents over the next three years.
A huge issue that I'll deal

1584
01:27:56,700 --> 01:28:00,660
with, as soon as I get there is
social media. They need to

1585
01:28:00,660 --> 01:28:06,450
verify every single person on
their ballot, because and I want

1586
01:28:06,450 --> 01:28:10,230
it by name. I never said
government should go and require

1587
01:28:10,230 --> 01:28:13,440
any Wednesday. I think John has
been a really great friend of

1588
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:18,750
ours. Yes, I view China as an
enemy. That was not what I

1589
01:28:18,750 --> 01:28:22,740
intended to say. I do not think
we need to pull money from the

1590
01:28:22,740 --> 01:28:27,510
UN. The UN, the only thing is we
would defund the UN as much as

1591
01:28:27,510 --> 01:28:27,990
possible.

1592
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:32,280
When a job fulfilled child in
this country assigned female at

1593
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,430
birth says actually, I feel more
comfortable living as a boy,

1594
01:28:35,460 --> 01:28:38,310
what should the law allow the
response to be?

1595
01:28:39,060 --> 01:28:41,100
Well, I think the law should
stay out of it. And I think

1596
01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:44,100
parents should handle it. I
think there should be federal

1597
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:47,580
involved that you should not
have any gender altering

1598
01:28:47,910 --> 01:28:50,580
anything done to a child before
the age of 18.

1599
01:28:50,730 --> 01:28:53,220
Adam Curry: So I'm just gonna
defend Nikki Haley a bit here.

1600
01:28:53,310 --> 01:28:57,990
These are clips that are taken
out of context, really. And if

1601
01:28:57,990 --> 01:29:00,810
you're really honest, throw
overboard like she's a liar. Now

1602
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,930
if you really listen to it, if
you really listen to how this

1603
01:29:03,930 --> 01:29:06,960
was cut, I mean, this is like
man on the street stuff. Don't

1604
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,110
be fooled by this. Don't be
fooled by this. This this is

1605
01:29:10,290 --> 01:29:13,950
this is cut together to make
what you do make her looks worse

1606
01:29:13,950 --> 01:29:17,190
than she already is. Again, I
would never vote for her. If

1607
01:29:17,190 --> 01:29:19,710
she's if she would be Trump's.
If I was gonna vote for Trump

1608
01:29:19,710 --> 01:29:23,070
and she was the VP I wouldn't
vote for Trump. I agree with

1609
01:29:23,070 --> 01:29:27,000
that. That's bad idea. So
anyway, it's just it's your

1610
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:29,400
we're being hoodwinked by the
Internet.

1611
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,580
John C Dvorak: Well, that's the
whole idea. So

1612
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:37,770
Adam Curry: oh, man, The
Washington Post ran a long

1613
01:29:37,770 --> 01:29:45,930
article on Sam Altman. And the
I'm surprised that they don't

1614
01:29:45,930 --> 01:29:50,130
realize themselves they are
hyping this guy up in exactly

1615
01:29:50,130 --> 01:29:55,380
the same way they did to Sam
bank, Ben freed. I mean, stuff

1616
01:29:55,380 --> 01:29:59,310
like how Sam Altman took over
Silicon Valley from powerful

1617
01:29:59,310 --> 01:30:04,260
friends to Oh, In AI, and they
say things like, you could drop

1618
01:30:04,260 --> 01:30:07,590
in him on an island of cannibals
and within five years you'd be

1619
01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:12,000
king. Phil, please. Yeah. And
like, you know,

1620
01:30:12,210 --> 01:30:14,730
John C Dvorak: who wrote this to
one of his PR people?

1621
01:30:16,139 --> 01:30:17,489
Adam Curry: Well, that's
interesting. Let me see if

1622
01:30:17,489 --> 01:30:24,449
there's a byline here. Garrett
petards, de Vink and cat

1623
01:30:24,689 --> 01:30:29,189
Zakrzewski reporting. Two
people, two people, yes.

1624
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,080
John C Dvorak: How's it take two
people?

1625
01:30:32,910 --> 01:30:36,480
Adam Curry: There's, you know,
there's stuff in here like, you

1626
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:40,290
know, I had a private meeting
with with Sam and he, you know,

1627
01:30:40,380 --> 01:30:43,500
he was on two phones at the same
time. He's very introverted. He

1628
01:30:43,500 --> 01:30:46,740
throws parties and then he has
like an internal clock. He knows

1629
01:30:46,740 --> 01:30:51,000
it's time to retreat to his
room. He's not a schmoozer here

1630
01:30:51,060 --> 01:30:54,570
to some Altman could be awkward,
even antisocial. Even when he

1631
01:30:54,570 --> 01:30:57,600
throws a party, he retreats into
his room pretty quickly. He has

1632
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:01,410
a timer or social clock where he
needs to stop socializing said

1633
01:31:01,410 --> 01:31:06,180
investor, Lackey Leakey lucky
groom, a close friend. He's not

1634
01:31:06,180 --> 01:31:09,810
a schmoozer, another close
friend, investor, Keith Rob bois

1635
01:31:10,170 --> 01:31:12,960
recalled when he first met
Alban, he spent the first

1636
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:17,040
Hangout glued to two different
phones. Oh, he's, he's so

1637
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,290
introverted. He's so smart.

1638
01:31:20,190 --> 01:31:21,780
John C Dvorak: If you're
introvert, you're not on two

1639
01:31:21,780 --> 01:31:23,310
phones. Let me tell you right
now,

1640
01:31:23,340 --> 01:31:26,280
Adam Curry: I never met anyone
as smart as Sam said, Senate

1641
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:27,600
Senator curse disease.

1642
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:30,090
John C Dvorak: You're right.
This sounds exactly banksman

1643
01:31:30,090 --> 01:31:33,000
Fried. This is a curse in
cinema. You're sure you're

1644
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:34,260
reading the right thing. They're

1645
01:31:35,010 --> 01:31:38,460
Adam Curry: different Sam. He's
an introvert and shy and humble.

1646
01:31:38,580 --> 01:31:42,360
And all of those are things that
are not normal for people on the

1647
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,210
Hill, but he's very good at
forming relationships with

1648
01:31:45,210 --> 01:31:48,000
people on the Hill. And he can
help folks in government

1649
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:49,620
understand AI he thought

1650
01:31:49,620 --> 01:31:50,910
John C Dvorak: he wasn't a
schmoozer.

1651
01:31:54,900 --> 01:31:58,620
Adam Curry: Hands up Oh, yes,
but this this was just the I

1652
01:31:58,620 --> 01:32:03,420
mean it was dripping with goo
this entire something's article.

1653
01:32:03,450 --> 01:32:06,780
Well, what's up is they're
hyping this they're just hyping

1654
01:32:06,780 --> 01:32:07,320
it Yeah. But

1655
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:11,220
John C Dvorak: why what's going
on is another op. The stock

1656
01:32:11,220 --> 01:32:14,010
Adam Curry: market that's all
they got beat what they need a

1657
01:32:14,010 --> 01:32:17,460
story this it was Sam bank been
fried when it was blockchain.

1658
01:32:17,610 --> 01:32:21,330
This is what I keep telling you.
Quantum Computing, his next

1659
01:32:21,330 --> 01:32:23,010
pivot is coming oh, it's not

1660
01:32:24,030 --> 01:32:27,150
John C Dvorak: over. When the
next thing comes along, we'll

1661
01:32:27,150 --> 01:32:31,080
both be able to both have our
eye out for it. And when the

1662
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:34,470
next big thing, which is always,
which is a Silicon Valley,

1663
01:32:34,740 --> 01:32:38,520
derisive term used for Silicon
Valley, the next big thing is

1664
01:32:38,550 --> 01:32:42,030
when he comes around, we'll
notice it probably within a week

1665
01:32:42,030 --> 01:32:44,460
or two of it happening. And then
we can point to it. But

1666
01:32:44,730 --> 01:32:47,490
Adam Curry: at this moment, I'm
still seeing. I see. I see

1667
01:32:47,490 --> 01:32:50,430
little green shoots of quantum
computing bullcrap. I see.

1668
01:32:50,580 --> 01:32:53,640
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's I say
it's trying to survive.

1669
01:32:55,890 --> 01:32:59,010
Adam Curry: Then I have a
question here for you. To

1670
01:32:59,010 --> 01:33:03,210
lawmakers filed a bill requiring
creators of foundation models,

1671
01:33:03,780 --> 01:33:06,510
you know, foundation models are,
I guess, something more

1672
01:33:06,510 --> 01:33:12,450
important than MLMs to disclose
sources of training data, so

1673
01:33:12,450 --> 01:33:15,900
copyright holders know their
information was taken. Here's my

1674
01:33:15,900 --> 01:33:20,100
question. When I write
something, and I put it on the

1675
01:33:20,100 --> 01:33:24,480
internet, and I published it on
my blog, the minute I wrote

1676
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:28,560
that, I have copyright on that
correct or not? In

1677
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,900
John C Dvorak: under the new
law? Yes. And you don't even

1678
01:33:30,900 --> 01:33:33,450
have to declare it. It's
automatic. So

1679
01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:38,760
Adam Curry: by definition,
unless I've given my rights up

1680
01:33:39,150 --> 01:33:43,140
to let's say, x, because when I
post on X, I've already agreed

1681
01:33:43,140 --> 01:33:47,700
that they have a, an unlimited
license, anything I do forever,

1682
01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:54,600
then they can't use my training
data. Or my data for training

1683
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:59,190
purposes of their foundation
models. Why? Because they're

1684
01:33:59,190 --> 01:34:01,710
going to, they're going to have
a bill requiring creators of

1685
01:34:01,710 --> 01:34:04,650
foundation models to disclose
sources of training data. So

1686
01:34:04,650 --> 01:34:07,230
copyright holders know that
information was taken.

1687
01:34:08,970 --> 01:34:12,030
John C Dvorak: Information
actually taken or just read by a

1688
01:34:12,030 --> 01:34:17,790
machine? Well, I mean, I read
your I read, for example, I'm

1689
01:34:17,790 --> 01:34:22,620
kind of on the other side of
this argument. Because I've

1690
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:27,030
always been annoyed by the fact
that you're early on in the 70s.

1691
01:34:27,330 --> 01:34:30,780
And then into the 80s. People
were talking about all the great

1692
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,870
things that can happen when all
the data's accumulate into some

1693
01:34:33,870 --> 01:34:37,200
giant library, all the books of
the world, and all the knowledge

1694
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,700
can be accessed. And it became a
buzz phrase, yes. information at

1695
01:34:41,700 --> 01:34:45,000
your fingertips formation
superhighway. And it was the it

1696
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,480
was the information superhighway
as part of that. And so the so

1697
01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:52,530
you had all this and then once
Google started scanning books,

1698
01:34:52,650 --> 01:34:56,940
everybody started squealing like
stuck pigs about it. I started

1699
01:34:56,940 --> 01:35:01,620
my bark, you know you're out of
print book. From 40 years ago

1700
01:35:01,620 --> 01:35:04,230
got scanned by Google and you're
upset about it because you're

1701
01:35:04,230 --> 01:35:06,240
going to lose money somehow
you're not going to make a

1702
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:10,080
nickel anyway. And so I noticed
that there's this kind of, you

1703
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,380
know, this back and forth and
whether this is good for society

1704
01:35:13,380 --> 01:35:16,860
or bad for society. I personally
think it's good for society that

1705
01:35:16,860 --> 01:35:19,740
everything gets scanned into
some giant database.

1706
01:35:22,110 --> 01:35:28,770
Adam Curry: Okay. All right.
Well, then, enjoy your AI. Your

1707
01:35:28,770 --> 01:35:31,110
chat GPT is dynamite and all
good.

1708
01:35:31,290 --> 01:35:33,480
John C Dvorak: I never said
anything. I never you what

1709
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:37,530
you're doing is extrapolating a
simple comment by me into

1710
01:35:37,530 --> 01:35:40,200
something just got nothing to do
with anything. That's what I'm

1711
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:44,970
not enjoying my chat. GPT I
don't even use it. I don't use

1712
01:35:44,970 --> 01:35:45,900
chat GBT.

1713
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,130
Adam Curry: But I love people
who send me emails. Hey, man,

1714
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:53,850
you have no idea how good it is
a coding? Yeah, you're you're a

1715
01:35:53,850 --> 01:35:57,060
script guy. You know, and I'm
sure but it's not going to

1716
01:35:57,060 --> 01:36:03,030
optimize the next, you know,
MacOS for the new chips. It's

1717
01:36:03,030 --> 01:36:03,630
not going to No, it

1718
01:36:03,630 --> 01:36:07,740
John C Dvorak: doesn't. JC who
works in this industry. And he's

1719
01:36:07,740 --> 01:36:11,220
an AI he says this is nonsense.
He says you still get better

1720
01:36:11,220 --> 01:36:14,940
code from Pakistan and they do
lousy coding. He says it's

1721
01:36:15,420 --> 01:36:19,440
cheaper and better to get the
real life coders and maybe they

1722
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:22,680
AI can clean up some stuff that
might be or might optimize

1723
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:26,010
something on the side, but it
can't write code from scratch.

1724
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:26,850
No, good. I

1725
01:36:26,850 --> 01:36:28,650
Adam Curry: think your code is
going to be the same as it

1726
01:36:28,650 --> 01:36:33,120
writes English flowery in an
ever Yeah, over and done in an

1727
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:39,480
ever expanding world where
podcasting. commissure blogger

1728
01:36:39,480 --> 01:36:45,000
who is you know, he has a career
now in this stuff. And he'll he

1729
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:50,190
keeps saying, Oh, look, look
what a chat GPT for said about

1730
01:36:50,190 --> 01:36:53,340
podcasting. 2.0 I'm like, Well,
you know, a 12 year old could

1731
01:36:53,340 --> 01:36:58,590
have written that. The so what
bit pulls and I and whenever

1732
01:36:58,590 --> 01:37:04,230
it's from grok. I recognize the
tweets. It was like, Oh, this I

1733
01:37:04,230 --> 01:37:07,080
recognize that tweet that tweet
that tweet. I recognize because

1734
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,260
if it's if it's about me, like
oh, look what grok said about

1735
01:37:10,260 --> 01:37:16,410
you. I put grok into funny mode.
grok is the worst kind because

1736
01:37:16,410 --> 01:37:24,330
it's it's AI that can't even do
humor. Right. So, anyway, people

1737
01:37:24,330 --> 01:37:28,200
John C Dvorak: will call me a
Luddite. You are a Luddite, to

1738
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:29,490
say what you will.

1739
01:37:29,940 --> 01:37:31,620
Adam Curry: I'm not afraid to
use that

1740
01:37:31,620 --> 01:37:34,560
John C Dvorak: clip at the
beginning. I already do to get a

1741
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:39,510
hold on you, my friend. I'm
gonna ham it up. I'm gonna ruin

1742
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:42,150
it. Now. Just try it. One would
wonder I can't get word out

1743
01:37:42,180 --> 01:37:46,890
Adam Curry: and go go. You're a
Luddite. Nice. Okay. I will be

1744
01:37:46,890 --> 01:37:52,440
short not to use that. All
right. Okay,

1745
01:37:52,440 --> 01:37:54,330
John C Dvorak: I got some stuff
here that we need to talk about.

1746
01:37:54,330 --> 01:37:59,520
Okay, good. Well, first of all,
you know, I had to steal. First

1747
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:02,280
Adam Curry: of all, thank you.
Thank you for joining me today

1748
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:06,120
for our Christmas Eve. Yeah, we
could be doing lots of things.

1749
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,060
If we work for CBS. People
shouldn't need to be reminded

1750
01:38:09,060 --> 01:38:12,810
that that that we're here we
are. We're warning you. We're

1751
01:38:12,810 --> 01:38:16,890
helping you or we're spinning
you down on Christmas Eve. I

1752
01:38:16,890 --> 01:38:18,270
should be drinking nog

1753
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,990
John C Dvorak: dog. You
shouldn't be drinking. No dog. I

1754
01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:24,210
Adam Curry: want to be drinking
dog. Yeah, now

1755
01:38:24,210 --> 01:38:26,520
John C Dvorak: we're working
because it's important work.

1756
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,970
Yes, it is. So I had this thing.
I'm bitching and moaning about

1757
01:38:29,970 --> 01:38:33,870
the Houthis. And why don't we
just do yes, satellites when we

1758
01:38:33,870 --> 01:38:36,960
just bomb bomb the Huth, where
they're sending these the

1759
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:37,470
Houthis

1760
01:38:39,180 --> 01:38:43,980
Adam Curry: so I'm not I'm not
convinced that this is all us to

1761
01:38:43,980 --> 01:38:49,200
sell our our LPG our oil,
whatever. No, yeah, to sell it

1762
01:38:49,620 --> 01:38:50,250
to Europe.

1763
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,490
John C Dvorak: There's actually
I agree with that. But this give

1764
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:58,320
this guy a book writers on NTD.
And they're gonna discuss, they

1765
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:03,060
introduce him. So you know his
name. The who's the discussion

1766
01:39:03,060 --> 01:39:06,060
about the weak response. And I
have these clips from Andy. And

1767
01:39:06,060 --> 01:39:08,880
I thought this guy had it
nailed. And he's got a nut kind

1768
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,560
of a different angle. So here we
go.

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Unknown: Thanks for joining me
here today, Lee Smith, the US

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01:39:13,470 --> 01:39:16,920
his response to the Houthi
attacks has been called a week

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01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:20,550
by some political and national
national security analysts.

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01:39:20,820 --> 01:39:24,780
What's your assessment of the US
response to attacks? And how do

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01:39:24,780 --> 01:39:29,220
you think this response will be
interpreted by Iran, which backs

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01:39:29,220 --> 01:39:30,960
the Houthis? Well,

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01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,510
I certainly I certainly agree
that it's been a very weak

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01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:37,230
response. And the main reason
for it, of course, is because

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01:39:37,230 --> 01:39:42,510
the Biden administration wants
to renew the nuclear deal with

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01:39:42,510 --> 01:39:45,450
Iran. And so the Biden
ministration is already

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01:39:45,450 --> 01:39:49,410
concerned that Israel is
attacking another Iranian asset,

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01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:54,690
Hamas in Gaza and so the idea
that the United States itself

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01:39:54,690 --> 01:39:58,260
would protect itself as well as
protecting protecting shipping

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01:39:58,260 --> 01:40:02,100
lanes. This is beyond the pale
Al, for the Biden

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01:40:02,100 --> 01:40:05,910
administration, because again,
the key foreign policy

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01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:09,090
initiative of the Biden
administration is to get back

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01:40:09,090 --> 01:40:12,450
into that nuclear deal. That was
the key foreign policy

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01:40:12,450 --> 01:40:16,260
initiative of Barack Obama. And
so Biden wants to get back into

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it. Ha.

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01:40:18,630 --> 01:40:24,030
Adam Curry: Wow. Well, I just
want to remind us, that my buddy

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01:40:24,030 --> 01:40:29,220
Lex, Ben Holland, who is married
to an Iranian Fatima that the

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01:40:29,220 --> 01:40:35,010
jet and she visits regularly,
she's over there. And when we

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01:40:35,010 --> 01:40:37,890
saw her when we were in Holland,
when we went on our trip this

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01:40:37,890 --> 01:40:42,930
summer, and she always says
everybody in Iran knows that

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01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,950
America and Iran are always
working together. It's all a

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01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:47,460
show.

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John C Dvorak: Well, there you
have it, I think that she might

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be incorrectly let's go with
part two of this clip.

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Unknown: And let me ask you
this, too. We know that Iran and

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01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,360
the Chinese Communist Party are
allies, right and work together

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01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:08,100
to undermine the US, is there a
role that the CCP could be

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playing in this? Well,

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01:41:10,440 --> 01:41:13,680
I'm sure the CCP couldn't be
unhappy about this, that it has,

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01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:18,540
you know, that it's shaken the
world's confidence in the United

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01:41:18,540 --> 01:41:21,720
States is ability to predict
shipping lanes. And remember,

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the United States has been doing
this, since since the end of

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01:41:25,710 --> 01:41:29,070
World War Two. This is one of
the most important things that

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01:41:29,070 --> 01:41:32,760
the United States does. And it's
important for the entire world,

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01:41:32,790 --> 01:41:37,770
or certainly for the free world
for, for Europe, for us and our

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01:41:37,770 --> 01:41:43,440
other allies. And the idea that
the Iranians through the Houthis

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01:41:43,620 --> 01:41:47,190
have shaken the world's
confidence since the United

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01:41:47,190 --> 01:41:52,020
States is not firing back that
weakens not only America's not

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01:41:52,020 --> 01:41:56,700
only America's prestige, right,
but it also is going to cost

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01:41:56,700 --> 01:42:00,420
other countries, it's going to
cost industries a lot more to

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01:42:00,420 --> 01:42:02,670
ship these goods around the
world.

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Adam Curry: This is a scam. So
scam. Scam is so obvious.

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01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:14,340
John C Dvorak: And so in he goes
on and on, one would analyze

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01:42:14,340 --> 01:42:17,490
this, but I just took this last
piece, just write straight up

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01:42:18,060 --> 01:42:20,910
with a really interesting
assertion

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01:42:21,330 --> 01:42:24,060
Unknown: that we will not
protect the shipping lanes.

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01:42:24,750 --> 01:42:28,980
Because we have a, we have
another chief interest, which is

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01:42:29,010 --> 01:42:33,330
a nuclear deal with Iran that
guarantees Iran's nuclear

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01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:38,220
weapons program, it doesn't stop
it is very important. It doesn't

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01:42:38,220 --> 01:42:41,520
stop it rather, it makes it
legitimate. That's the point of

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01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:44,460
the nuclear deal. So the
message, the larger message that

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01:42:44,460 --> 01:42:47,250
the Biden administration is
sending to the world is you

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01:42:47,250 --> 01:42:51,960
think things are bad now, and
shipping lanes around the world,

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wait until Iran, which backs the
Houthis get a nuclear bomb, then

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01:42:57,180 --> 01:43:00,480
everyone's gonna have to be
paying off the Iranians and

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01:43:00,480 --> 01:43:04,560
their allies to be able to ship
their goods across the world. So

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it's an insanely destructive
message that the Biden

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administration is sending to the
world.

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Adam Curry: You know, the tip
off for me, which I didn't hear

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01:43:12,810 --> 01:43:17,340
a single view s media or I was
exposed, expecting at least a

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01:43:17,340 --> 01:43:22,860
BBC report on it, that the
French walked away from

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01:43:22,890 --> 01:43:27,600
Operation prosperity guardian.
They said Now we're not going to

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participate in this. And I think
the Greek said, Screw you. We're

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01:43:31,710 --> 01:43:34,740
not going to be a part of this.
Now when why would the French

1837
01:43:34,740 --> 01:43:37,530
leave the French? Is it time to
break out the Freedom Fries

1838
01:43:37,530 --> 01:43:41,250
again? Why would the French
leave? I think is because of

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01:43:41,250 --> 01:43:45,630
total oil to like, Oh, you guys
are screwing us. Yeah, you're

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01:43:46,650 --> 01:43:50,100
John C Dvorak: true. Yeah. Yeah.
To call. It really is half of

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01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:51,150
France. Yeah.

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01:43:52,860 --> 01:43:59,100
Adam Curry: So this is this
makes no sense. Though, Tom

1843
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:03,630
Hanks needs to do a movie your
dad wanted about Somali pirates.

1844
01:44:04,830 --> 01:44:11,820
So and this, this, this whole
thing? Then when are they going

1845
01:44:11,820 --> 01:44:14,310
to have the inks? What stinks
to? I haven't? What are they

1846
01:44:14,310 --> 01:44:18,180
gonna have that the nuclear bomb
two weeks is just around the

1847
01:44:18,180 --> 01:44:18,480
corner,

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01:44:18,540 --> 01:44:20,550
John C Dvorak: always going to
be two weeks around the corner,

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01:44:20,550 --> 01:44:25,050
I'm sure. Well, once they get
back on track, I'm sure to go a

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01:44:25,050 --> 01:44:28,320
little faster. But after having
Trump come in and disrupt

1851
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:31,290
everything, that didn't help and
it's not going to help if Trump

1852
01:44:31,290 --> 01:44:35,580
gets back in office. This is not
to these schemes, these one

1853
01:44:35,580 --> 01:44:37,590
world government schemes away I
see him.

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01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,080
Adam Curry: I mean, now I'm also
thinking that a whole that whole

1855
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,720
thing that Trump uncovered that
we're going to attack Iran,

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01:44:42,900 --> 01:44:45,900
that's probably a gambit to
Alright, now we're going to

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01:44:45,900 --> 01:44:48,900
pretend we're going to attack
you guys. We're gonna do

1858
01:44:48,900 --> 01:44:51,660
something over here and then
we'll do this and then

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01:44:51,660 --> 01:44:54,090
John C Dvorak: we'll actually
maybe that maybe that document

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01:44:54,150 --> 01:44:57,480
implies that it would be and
that's why it's secret. He

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01:44:57,480 --> 01:45:00,870
Adam Curry: probably buried that
with Ivana as well. is

1862
01:45:00,870 --> 01:45:03,300
John C Dvorak: in the cost of
the digger up digger up,

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01:45:04,050 --> 01:45:10,230
Adam Curry: digger up. Now
normally we have a veto on

1864
01:45:10,230 --> 01:45:13,980
playing this guy, but I think oh
no, yes, yeah, can

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01:45:13,980 --> 01:45:14,790
John C Dvorak: I guess who it
is?

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01:45:14,820 --> 01:45:19,590
Adam Curry: You already know,
you already know. Go ahead.

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Okay,

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01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:21,840
John C Dvorak: go ahead. John
Kerry, of

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01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:26,520
Adam Curry: course it is you got
it. But but is John I have not.

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01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:30,390
You've been doing this. I know.
Well, because of the cop 28

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01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:30,600
You're

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01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,300
John C Dvorak: in clear
violation of the treaty? Well,

1873
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it's

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Adam Curry: cop 28. So, you
know, I have a veto in the

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01:45:36,510 --> 01:45:41,820
Security Council in the in the
clip council. So we're summing

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01:45:41,820 --> 01:45:46,530
up cop 28. And the big news that
came out of cop 28 is we

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01:45:46,530 --> 01:45:53,370
actually Chad GBT use the line
transition away from fossil

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01:45:53,370 --> 01:45:59,850
fuels fuels. And then there's a
second part to it to reach a net

1879
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:06,840
zero economy, which is code for
carbon credits, because net zero

1880
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:10,620
doesn't mean that we're not
using fossil fuels. It means

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01:46:10,620 --> 01:46:15,930
that we are buying pieces of
Africa, then just call that a

1882
01:46:15,930 --> 01:46:21,780
carbon sink. Now, all that we
plant some trees, this kind of

1883
01:46:21,780 --> 01:46:27,090
stuff. But this was the bill.
This was this is fantastic. We

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01:46:27,090 --> 01:46:32,940
did our job. It took us 28 Cops
20 A cops and we finally did it.

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01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:37,470
I'm John Kerry. Now the beauty
of this is it's Christine.

1886
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:44,010
Christiane Amanpour, who I'm now
convinced is so dumb. She has

1887
01:46:44,010 --> 01:46:47,730
that elitist vibe over her. And
for years, you know, he was

1888
01:46:47,730 --> 01:46:51,120
like, Oh, she's Christina.
Christiana. Paula. I'm

1889
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:55,740
Christiane Allen. Pa my my poop
don't stink. Well, she's done.

1890
01:46:55,770 --> 01:46:56,310
President

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01:46:56,310 --> 01:47:00,150
Unknown: Biden's top climate
envoy John Kerry says only greed

1892
01:47:00,270 --> 01:47:03,810
can now get in the way of
combating climate change. Carrie

1893
01:47:03,810 --> 01:47:07,800
was right at the center of the
high stakes deal making a cop 28

1894
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:12,630
in Dubai, where remarkably, all
195 nations agreed to transition

1895
01:47:12,630 --> 01:47:16,650
away from fossil fuels. Earlier
this week, he and I talked about

1896
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:21,000
age activism, and how hard it
was to get to that agreement.

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01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:24,030
Adam Curry: First of all, the
whole notion that this was a big

1898
01:47:24,030 --> 01:47:28,650
deal to transition away from
fossil fuels. I mean, is this

1899
01:47:28,650 --> 01:47:33,000
not what they've been saying for
15 years? Well,

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01:47:33,030 --> 01:47:36,570
John C Dvorak: here's the other
aspect to this. They actually

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01:47:36,570 --> 01:47:40,110
want it and we had clips. I
don't know if we replayed them

1902
01:47:40,620 --> 01:47:44,670
from cop 28 where they didn't
want the wording was not

1903
01:47:44,670 --> 01:47:50,970
transition away was a bit. Yeah.
Exactly. And they and the guy

1904
01:47:50,970 --> 01:47:53,160
was the head one of the head
honchos and one of the big

1905
01:47:53,340 --> 01:47:56,940
Middle East oil companies was
running the show. And he managed

1906
01:47:56,940 --> 01:48:02,190
to change it from eliminate, to
transition away from which is

1907
01:48:02,190 --> 01:48:07,380
what they've kind of been doing,
you know, transition away, it

1908
01:48:07,380 --> 01:48:09,300
doesn't mean anything is
meaningless.

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01:48:09,330 --> 01:48:11,340
Adam Curry: That's what Elon
Musk has been helping with.

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01:48:11,370 --> 01:48:14,730
That's what it is. transition
away from fossil fuel. Okay.

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01:48:15,480 --> 01:48:17,670
Unknown: Secretary Kerry,
welcome back to the program.

1912
01:48:18,660 --> 01:48:21,660
There was a lot written about
how you were able to leverage if

1913
01:48:21,660 --> 01:48:24,930
that's the right way your
contacts with the Saudi with the

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remember,

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01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:29,730
Adam Curry: isn't this in his
daughter married to like some

1916
01:48:29,730 --> 01:48:30,720
Iranian dude.

1917
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:34,230
John C Dvorak: I can't remember
the relationship during that.

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01:48:34,260 --> 01:48:35,370
Yeah. But anyway,

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01:48:35,580 --> 01:48:38,340
Adam Curry: I'm John Kerry, I
did it all II with

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01:48:38,340 --> 01:48:41,520
Unknown: the Chinese officials
at I'll tell me just what it was

1921
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:44,940
like in terms of personal
negotiation, getting them to

1922
01:48:44,940 --> 01:48:46,050
sign on the dotted line?

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01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:49,080
Well, it's really tough. I mean,
this is as tough as any

1924
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:54,570
multilateral negotiation gets.
When you have economic interests

1925
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,420
and different capacities,
different capabilities,

1926
01:48:57,570 --> 01:49:02,850
different amounts of money,
different cultures. And you

1927
01:49:02,850 --> 01:49:06,630
bring them all together in a
multilateral forum. I think

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01:49:06,630 --> 01:49:10,200
people who expect them to all of
a sudden, you know, terminate

1929
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what they're doing, are just not
operating on the reality of how

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01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,820
multilateral governance, it
works. It's the hardest kind of

1931
01:49:17,820 --> 01:49:19,620
all. And what happened in

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Adam Curry: multilateral
governance, New World Order, is

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the hardest of all, but I'm John
Kerry by

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Unknown: is that 195 countries
actually came to a consensus,

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any one of them could have
blocked any one country could

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01:49:34,530 --> 01:49:36,780
have walked away and said, No,
we're not doing this. They

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01:49:36,780 --> 01:49:42,540
didn't. They gathered together
and said, time for a transition

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01:49:42,570 --> 01:49:46,860
away from fossil fuels, with
acceleration in the 2020s

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commensurate with that zero
2050. And in keeping with the

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Paris Agreement, which means
keeping 1.5 degrees alive if

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01:49:55,500 --> 01:49:58,530
there's one thing which worries
me what is it what what worries

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01:49:58,530 --> 01:50:02,700
me now is greed and
procrastination and business as

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01:50:02,700 --> 01:50:05,880
usual, and people who just
aren't going to step up.

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Adam Curry: This is a perfect
example of what you said, Ben,

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01:50:09,030 --> 01:50:12,300
yourself and your co op do the
health. The greed part. That's

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01:50:12,300 --> 01:50:15,810
you. That's you all those people
there. They're in it for the

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01:50:15,810 --> 01:50:20,820
greed. Ah, I can sell carbon
credits. Oh, we don't have to be

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01:50:20,820 --> 01:50:26,010
done until 2050. John Caron set
up an exchange. Yes, John Kerry

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01:50:26,010 --> 01:50:29,340
will be dead in 2050. Because
he's well into his 80s. Now, I

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01:50:29,340 --> 01:50:32,700
think or his ad. No, no, no, I
think so.

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John C Dvorak: But let's check
it out.

1952
01:50:34,110 --> 01:50:35,670
Adam Curry: Doesn't matter.
Let's talk about Trump.

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Unknown: If you're the envoy for
President Biden, what happens if

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Biden doesn't get elected? And
the climate? You know, I don't

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even know what to call him the
climate agreement. Pull her out

1956
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or

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Adam Curry: the climate
agreement polar outer. That is

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your elitist. Christiane
Amanpour. They're

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John C Dvorak: actually at your
right.

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01:50:54,180 --> 01:50:56,820
Adam Curry: I don't even know
what to call Trump but a climate

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agreement polar outer

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John C Dvorak: is a polar outer.
No, and he's a polar outer. He's

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a polar outer

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Unknown: of the First Order
climate. You know, I don't even

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know what to call him the
climate agreement, pull her out,

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or Donald Trump. You know, after
2015 comes back,

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01:51:13,620 --> 01:51:16,440
let me tell you even why Donald
Trump is president united states

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and he pulled out of the Paris
Agreement. 37 governors,

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Republican and Democrat alike in
the States of America, all

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continued to apply the Paris
Agreement, even while Donald

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Trump was out of the agreement
with

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01:51:29,010 --> 01:51:33,090
Adam Curry: this is a lie. What
do you mean, we send money to

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01:51:33,090 --> 01:51:37,260
China, the Texas send money to
South America. That's the

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agreement pulled her out, or

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Unknown: 75% of the new
electricity, the United States

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that came online came from
renewables. Now he probably

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01:51:46,590 --> 01:51:50,970
didn't know it, or he tried to
stop it. But that line is key

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now. Nobody can stop this. Now
nobody economies of the world

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01:51:55,140 --> 01:51:59,670
had made this decision. I think
no one politician anywhere in

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01:51:59,670 --> 01:52:02,970
the world can undo the direction
the world is now. And

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01:52:02,970 --> 01:52:03,390
particularly

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the young people who are really
there for it and won't allow me

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to meet and quiet

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Adam Curry: the young people are
not puller outers at all at all.

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All right. Now since since the
after this. After this clip, I

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want you to write this down.
January, December 24 2023. After

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this clip, I will never play
John Kerry again. Tao

1988
01:52:31,860 --> 01:52:35,670
John C Dvorak: ball shet.
Because Oh crap, this this is

1989
01:52:35,670 --> 01:52:37,830
you think he's gonna die or
something? What do you what do

1990
01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:39,780
you got going on here? This

1991
01:52:39,780 --> 01:52:43,410
Adam Curry: is the end. He's
done his job. He has. He has

1992
01:52:43,410 --> 01:52:47,790
done what? He's retiring. He's
done. He's done. He's out. He

1993
01:52:47,790 --> 01:52:51,330
will no longer be around. He's
already talking about how great

1994
01:52:51,330 --> 01:52:53,670
he is. He'll tell his
grandchildren how great he are.

1995
01:52:53,670 --> 01:52:56,760
He's telling his grandchildren
how great he is. This is it.

1996
01:52:56,790 --> 01:52:59,730
It's a swan song. Sayanora you
just

1997
01:52:59,730 --> 01:53:02,670
Unknown: celebrated your 80th
birthday still going strong?

1998
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:06,510
What line can you draw from that
from the young man who came back

1999
01:53:06,510 --> 01:53:10,740
and told his country that this
war is the wrong war? To today

2000
01:53:10,770 --> 01:53:13,620
to what you will tell your
grandchildren about what's been

2001
01:53:13,620 --> 01:53:16,500
achieved after this cop 28 What
will you tell them about their

2002
01:53:16,500 --> 01:53:17,010
future?

2003
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,560
Well, there we can make a
difference that all of us there

2004
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:24,030
being citizens and being active
and being engaged. We have that

2005
01:53:24,060 --> 01:53:27,960
freedom, that power to make a
difference. The struggle for us

2006
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,690
a little bit now in the United
States and elsewhere is to make

2007
01:53:30,690 --> 01:53:34,920
sure that the truth is on the
table that we are ratifying

2008
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:40,770
truth, not just information, but
bad ideology. And I think that,

2009
01:53:41,730 --> 01:53:46,590
you know, in so many ways, the
journey we traveled I wrote the

2010
01:53:46,620 --> 01:53:50,520
the title of my own biography
after I left his secretary is

2011
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:54,630
every day is extra. That comes
from a saying that many of the

2012
01:53:54,630 --> 01:53:58,650
guys on my crew and many of the
people I grew there felt that

2013
01:53:58,650 --> 01:54:01,680
responsibility because we
survived and we came back

2014
01:54:01,860 --> 01:54:05,280
Adam Curry: way But wasn't he a
traitor? But why do I remember

2015
01:54:05,730 --> 01:54:09,630
he? Did he throw his metals in
the water or something

2016
01:54:10,110 --> 01:54:14,250
John C Dvorak: he threw, but it
was supposedly he was doing some

2017
01:54:14,430 --> 01:54:18,330
protest. I think anti war
protest Vietnam and he

2018
01:54:18,330 --> 01:54:23,100
supposedly threw his metals into
some, you know, burning heap.

2019
01:54:23,730 --> 01:54:28,290
Then somebody found out that he
bought some metals at a pawn

2020
01:54:28,290 --> 01:54:32,910
shop and through those and what
was was was a rumor it was a

2021
01:54:32,910 --> 01:54:33,990
Swift Boat thing.

2022
01:54:34,020 --> 01:54:35,250
Adam Curry: It was this that was
on any

2023
01:54:35,340 --> 01:54:38,760
John C Dvorak: Swift Boat where
he came I'm ready for duty. He

2024
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:42,600
comes out at the at the
convention I'm ready for duty

2025
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,810
salutes the crowd. And then he
has the Swift Boat in a Swift

2026
01:54:45,810 --> 01:54:48,630
Boat guys came out so he's full
of crap. This guy's a phony.

2027
01:54:49,470 --> 01:54:52,560
Yeah, he's a phony baloney this
guy. He's always been

2028
01:54:52,590 --> 01:54:55,200
Adam Curry: Yeah. But now he's
talking about his crew, my crew,

2029
01:54:55,410 --> 01:54:58,800
a two Live Crew. What are you a
hip hop guy now? That

2030
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:02,190
Unknown: comes from a saying And
then many of the guys on my crew

2031
01:55:02,220 --> 01:55:06,000
crew, the people I knew there I
run with some bad dudes, sir.

2032
01:55:06,420 --> 01:55:10,890
Felt that response, because we
survived and we came back. And

2033
01:55:10,890 --> 01:55:14,190
so you treat every day as extra.
And when you say to me, you

2034
01:55:14,190 --> 01:55:16,800
know, I'm 80 years old and I
don't think about age, honestly,

2035
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:20,400
I don't. The other day I said to
my friends, when we were

2036
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:24,180
gathered, I said, you know, at
80, I can do everything I used

2037
01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:26,910
to do when I was 50. But I don't
remember what it is.

2038
01:55:32,430 --> 01:55:33,330
It's not true, by the

2039
01:55:34,500 --> 01:55:35,550
John C Dvorak: way, oh, no,
really,

2040
01:55:35,940 --> 01:55:37,260
Adam Curry: I guess. I

2041
01:55:37,260 --> 01:55:39,810
Unknown: must really tick you
off all this stuff about Biden

2042
01:55:39,810 --> 01:55:41,160
and his age. It does.

2043
01:55:41,190 --> 01:55:44,250
I think that sort of in ages,
and he's done a brilliant job. I

2044
01:55:44,250 --> 01:55:49,470
think it's really, you know,
he's been able to galvanize

2045
01:55:49,470 --> 01:55:53,040
people around critical values
that are at stake in Ukraine

2046
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:55,920
critical values. I don't know
what has happened to a lot of

2047
01:55:55,920 --> 01:56:00,120
people who back away from that
now, because the cost of nine

2048
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:04,050
ones varying, would be just
extraordinary for the world. And

2049
01:56:04,050 --> 01:56:05,970
I think he knows how the
congress works. He knows

2050
01:56:05,970 --> 01:56:08,850
America, and he also knows how
the world works. And that's what

2051
01:56:08,850 --> 01:56:13,620
you need today. So thank you
very much. Thank you. Goodbye,

2052
01:56:13,620 --> 01:56:16,110
Adam Curry: John Kerry. banned
forever.

2053
01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:20,430
John C Dvorak: So you are
putting this date down as this

2054
01:56:20,430 --> 01:56:24,570
Ms. 2023 as a swan song,

2055
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:27,840
Adam Curry: he's done. He's out.
Dez

2056
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:30,180
John C Dvorak: bull crap.
There's no way guy like this

2057
01:56:30,210 --> 01:56:30,810
out.

2058
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:34,500
Adam Curry: He's done. He's
done. He's no, he's done. He's

2059
01:56:34,500 --> 01:56:35,340
done on the show.

2060
01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:37,620
John C Dvorak: There will be no
more clips of Joe iring. About

2061
01:56:37,620 --> 01:56:39,690
that. Well, then I'm gonna bring
clips, he might, he might

2062
01:56:39,690 --> 01:56:42,120
Adam Curry: as well be dead to
us. He's dead to me. He's dead

2063
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:46,680
to me. Now, I will say the one
thing that I was absolutely

2064
01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:51,210
right on was this. In the start
in the EU, then we then I said,

2065
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:55,140
you watch this is a thing. And
it is indeed, it's the green

2066
01:56:55,140 --> 01:57:01,170
Hydrogen. Hydrogen is all about
now. We're moving away from wind

2067
01:57:01,170 --> 01:57:04,110
and solar. Because that's no
good. It's all about the

2068
01:57:04,110 --> 01:57:05,310
hydrogen and

2069
01:57:05,310 --> 01:57:07,680
Unknown: hydrogen producers
could soon be eligible for

2070
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:10,680
billions of dollars in tax
credits through the inflation

2071
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:13,470
protection act. The Biden
administration today released

2072
01:57:13,470 --> 01:57:16,710
his proposal to boost the
hydrogen industry as a cleaner

2073
01:57:16,710 --> 01:57:20,190
alternative to fossil fuels.
Under the proposal cleaner

2074
01:57:20,190 --> 01:57:23,880
energy projects would get the
most tax credits. Those that use

2075
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:27,330
fossil fuels to produce hydrogen
would still get them but in

2076
01:57:27,330 --> 01:57:30,930
smaller amounts, hydrogen
production credit could deliver

2077
01:57:30,930 --> 01:57:36,270
$140 billion in revenue and
700,000 jobs by the year 2030.

2078
01:57:36,810 --> 01:57:40,560
Adam Curry: Sure. How's that
hydrogen working for you?

2079
01:57:43,980 --> 01:57:48,120
John C Dvorak: Climate is this
climate change mini clip?

2080
01:57:48,750 --> 01:57:49,740
Adam Curry: Shall we have a
listen?

2081
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:51,360
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's 50

2082
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:54,720
Unknown: Plus Architecture,
Landscape Architecture and

2083
01:57:54,990 --> 01:57:58,290
Design officers have
participated in this exhibition,

2084
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:02,010
they've come together to
creatively design an entire

2085
01:58:02,010 --> 01:58:04,230
city, which is edible.

2086
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:07,890
And edible city.

2087
01:58:08,220 --> 01:58:10,260
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
right. They were gonna do that.

2088
01:58:10,290 --> 01:58:15,360
Adam Curry: Where was that?
Where was that from? That's

2089
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:16,110
hilarious.

2090
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:20,580
John C Dvorak: This story was
about a bye about climate

2091
01:58:20,580 --> 01:58:25,920
change. But they decided they're
going to do a green gingerbread

2092
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:30,810
city designed by the world's top
architects. And so they designed

2093
01:58:30,810 --> 01:58:33,540
this thing and it was turned out
to be edit where I thought just

2094
01:58:33,540 --> 01:58:35,970
as sub clip itself was funny,
where Sir Mark

2095
01:58:35,970 --> 01:58:38,430
Adam Curry: and de mastered when
we're designing a gingerbread

2096
01:58:38,580 --> 01:58:41,220
city, those guys could do it.
They could

2097
01:58:41,220 --> 01:58:43,110
John C Dvorak: do it. And they
were they're going to be

2098
01:58:43,110 --> 01:58:47,310
involved in today's day mastery,
for sure. On today's donations,

2099
01:58:48,300 --> 01:58:51,750
contributed money to us. She's
still listens.

2100
01:58:51,780 --> 01:58:56,190
Adam Curry: Are you doing a show
on Tuesday with the Horowitz? Of

2101
01:58:56,190 --> 01:58:57,270
course. Well,

2102
01:58:57,300 --> 01:58:59,310
John C Dvorak: could I it's
after Christmas. He doesn't care

2103
01:58:59,310 --> 01:59:02,520
about credit. I mean, he's
Jewish. And so the joke is, I

2104
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:07,980
always like to chide him about
it. He totally can. He totally

2105
01:59:08,010 --> 01:59:15,360
confirms this. Most Jews go and
eat Chinese dinners. Chinese you

2106
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:19,410
know, Christmas is like a
tradition that's which means

2107
01:59:19,410 --> 01:59:22,500
that they observe Christmas or
they wouldn't have a tradition

2108
01:59:22,530 --> 01:59:27,930
around Christmas. And he has no
problem saying Merry Christmas.

2109
01:59:27,930 --> 01:59:28,260
No, of

2110
01:59:28,260 --> 01:59:30,870
Adam Curry: course not. You know
what, I love him because he's,

2111
01:59:31,050 --> 01:59:33,450
he's one of those Jews who loves
cooking up lobsters. He's

2112
01:59:33,450 --> 01:59:35,340
boasting about it all the time.
Just like

2113
01:59:37,140 --> 01:59:39,390
John C Dvorak: you know, it's
obvious. He's a good cook. He

2114
01:59:39,390 --> 01:59:43,830
knows how to cook only he's a
little bit nuts about his way.

2115
01:59:44,250 --> 01:59:45,930
Adam Curry: He goes out of
control.

2116
01:59:46,230 --> 01:59:48,270
John C Dvorak: He's out of
control. He could he'll cook for

2117
01:59:48,270 --> 01:59:52,740
25 people, nobody in their right
mind. Who knows how to cook

2118
01:59:52,740 --> 01:59:56,550
well, will cook for 25 people.
It's just too much work. It's

2119
01:59:56,580 --> 02:00:00,270
ridiculous. You get a caterer
and have them do it. You Just

2120
02:00:00,270 --> 02:00:02,070
don't do it, but he'll do it.

2121
02:00:02,190 --> 02:00:06,210
Adam Curry: Yeah, about I love
Andrew and NGL. They're there.

2122
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:07,590
There's some very fine people.

2123
02:00:08,849 --> 02:00:10,859
John C Dvorak: They're very
fine, very fine people.

2124
02:00:12,179 --> 02:00:14,699
Adam Curry: But I have a
question about how this will

2125
02:00:14,699 --> 02:00:20,999
work. Because what the new
president Millay of Argentina

2126
02:00:20,999 --> 02:00:26,279
said he would do, he has done he
repaired the payee repack the

2127
02:00:26,279 --> 02:00:30,449
peso, the peso has been pegged.
And it's not it's been he

2128
02:00:30,449 --> 02:00:33,149
promised it will be bad but as
bad economic

2129
02:00:33,150 --> 02:00:36,240
Unknown: shock treatment is the
only solution. According to the

2130
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:39,930
New Argentinian president. In a
televised address, have you

2131
02:00:39,930 --> 02:00:44,340
Malay said he would repeal more
than 300 laws in a bid to reboot

2132
02:00:44,340 --> 02:00:47,220
the country struggling economy,
and

2133
02:00:47,220 --> 02:00:51,210
earlier today, I've signed a
decree of necessity and urgency

2134
02:00:51,210 --> 02:00:53,850
to begin to unblock the
oppressive legal and

2135
02:00:53,850 --> 02:00:57,810
institutional framework this
destroyed our country on base.

2136
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:02,820
Among the announcements made on
Wednesday, are a form of labor

2137
02:01:02,820 --> 02:01:06,510
law, the scrapping of a law
regulating rents and the

2138
02:01:06,540 --> 02:01:09,780
elimination of rules preventing
the privatization of state

2139
02:01:09,780 --> 02:01:13,200
enterprises. But before the
measures can take effect, they

2140
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:16,470
must first be assessed by joint
committee of lawmakers from both

2141
02:01:16,470 --> 02:01:20,280
chambers, they'll and Malaise
far right party only has 40

2142
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:24,990
seats in the 257 member lower
house and seven senators out of

2143
02:01:24,990 --> 02:01:29,550
72. Fearing street protests, the
government threatened to take

2144
02:01:29,550 --> 02:01:33,150
away demonstrators social
welfare benefits, which didn't

2145
02:01:33,150 --> 02:01:37,380
stop these Argentinians marching
in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, so

2146
02:01:37,380 --> 02:01:37,590
you're

2147
02:01:37,950 --> 02:01:41,310
not convenient, let them take
our freedom. It costs too much.

2148
02:01:41,850 --> 02:01:44,940
taking people off buses asking
for documents and banning

2149
02:01:44,940 --> 02:01:48,210
protests going back to the
dictatorship back because there

2150
02:01:48,210 --> 02:01:49,860
were those who voted for Malay
want.

2151
02:01:51,510 --> 02:01:54,600
On Monday, Argentina's Minister
for Human Capital issued a

2152
02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:56,130
warning via social media.

2153
02:01:57,150 --> 02:01:59,760
Those blocking streets won't be
paid. The

2154
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:03,210
move to discourage protests was
declared unconstitutional by

2155
02:02:03,210 --> 02:02:08,100
opposition MPs. In Argentina,
wanting to citizens receive aid

2156
02:02:08,130 --> 02:02:09,900
from the state or an
organization.

2157
02:02:10,290 --> 02:02:13,650
Adam Curry: Okay, so I should
mention DHS unplugged every

2158
02:02:13,650 --> 02:02:16,620
Tuesday. It's an hour long
casual conversation between

2159
02:02:16,710 --> 02:02:21,420
money manager Andrew Horowitz
and calmness, Jhansi Dvorak. And

2160
02:02:21,450 --> 02:02:26,100
so my question is, how does this
mechanism work? When you want to

2161
02:02:26,100 --> 02:02:31,260
stop rampid inflation view then
repaired, everything becomes 30

2162
02:02:31,260 --> 02:02:35,550
to 50%. More expensive
overnight, half the people from

2163
02:02:35,550 --> 02:02:40,560
the report depend on government
handouts. I mean, what's the

2164
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,560
mechanism? This is not the first
time this has been done? How

2165
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:46,710
does it work? What is I mean,
does it last two months, two

2166
02:02:46,710 --> 02:02:50,400
years? How does it work? But how
is this going to help everybody

2167
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:51,840
in the end? It

2168
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:54,000
John C Dvorak: stops inflation
pretty quickly. This was done in

2169
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:58,470
Brazil. This has been done in
Argentina, I think a couple of

2170
02:02:58,470 --> 02:03:02,100
times. And once you read Peg,
Yeah, it goes everything goes

2171
02:03:02,100 --> 02:03:05,520
up. It seems to go up 30%. But
it's been going up 15 or 20% a

2172
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:11,160
month. Anyway. Yeah. So if it
goes up 30% once and then stops

2173
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:14,880
going up. That seems to be a
benefit. Yeah, okay, things are

2174
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,520
gonna be a little more expensive
for the short term. Brazilians

2175
02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:22,680
did it. They took in, they had
these different. I was first

2176
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:24,990
time I went to Brazil, I went
during the period of

2177
02:03:24,990 --> 02:03:29,790
hyperinflation. And I still have
a couple of bills. The cruzeiro

2178
02:03:29,790 --> 02:03:36,330
is beer bill and they have one
that's 500,000. And it was worth

2179
02:03:36,330 --> 02:03:41,100
they originally was worth like
about $1. And then it became

2180
02:03:41,100 --> 02:03:43,320
worth less and less and less
than they used as got rid of it

2181
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:46,080
completely. They had two
different versions of it. They

2182
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,840
got rid of it and brought in
something called the rial

2183
02:03:48,870 --> 02:03:53,460
meaning, which means real, and
it was pegged to the dollar one

2184
02:03:53,460 --> 02:03:57,420
to one. And it pretty much
stopped inflation. And one of

2185
02:03:57,420 --> 02:04:01,560
the things I think that caused
inflation to stop dead is what

2186
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:06,330
Milton Friedman's, we had a
clip, we played it, where he

2187
02:04:06,330 --> 02:04:09,270
discusses something in one one
of the states during the Civil

2188
02:04:09,270 --> 02:04:13,320
War where they're having this
inflation problem, and they just

2189
02:04:13,350 --> 02:04:18,960
stop printing money, and the
inflation stopped. It was just

2190
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:22,380
that simple in that easy. And
that's exactly what this amounts

2191
02:04:22,380 --> 02:04:23,070
to. Here

2192
02:04:23,070 --> 02:04:25,830
Adam Curry: is here's the clip.
I believe this one you referring

2193
02:04:25,830 --> 02:04:28,800
to 40 years ago on inflation's
cause is that would that be the

2194
02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:30,030
clip to be

2195
02:04:30,390 --> 02:04:36,210
Unknown: in the modern era? The
important next step is to

2196
02:04:36,210 --> 02:04:40,320
recognize that today,
governments control the quantity

2197
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:45,960
of money. So that as a result,
inflation in the United States

2198
02:04:46,380 --> 02:04:51,870
is made in Washington and
nowhere else. Of course, no

2199
02:04:51,870 --> 02:04:54,420
government any more than any one
of us like to take

2200
02:04:54,420 --> 02:04:58,680
responsibility for bad things.
We're all of us human, if

2201
02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:00,810
something bad happens in one
wasn't our fault.

2202
02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:02,310
Adam Curry: Yeah, I don't think
this is a clip but I want to

2203
02:05:02,340 --> 02:05:03,810
play it out. Yeah,

2204
02:05:03,810 --> 02:05:07,020
Unknown: playing the government
is the same way. So it doesn't

2205
02:05:07,020 --> 02:05:10,950
accept responsibility for
inflation. If you listen to

2206
02:05:10,950 --> 02:05:14,070
people in Washington and talk,
they will tell you that

2207
02:05:14,070 --> 02:05:18,480
inflation is produced by greedy
businessmen. Or it's produced by

2208
02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:22,380
grasping unions, or it's
produced by spendthrift

2209
02:05:22,380 --> 02:05:27,480
consumers. Or maybe it's those
terrible Arab sheiks who are

2210
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:32,400
producing those guys. Now, of
course, businessmen are greedy.

2211
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:38,370
Who of us isn't? Trade Unions
are grasping who of us isn't.

2212
02:05:39,330 --> 02:05:43,350
And there's no doubt that the
consumer is a spendthrift. At

2213
02:05:43,350 --> 02:05:48,420
least every man knows that about
his wife. But none of them

2214
02:05:48,420 --> 02:05:52,560
produce inflation. For the very
simple reason that neither the

2215
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:59,160
businessman nor the trade union,
nor the white housewife has a

2216
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:02,940
printing press in their basement
on which they can turn out those

2217
02:06:02,940 --> 02:06:07,170
green pieces of paper, we call
them money. Only Washington has

2218
02:06:07,170 --> 02:06:10,710
that printing press, and
therefore only Washington can

2219
02:06:10,710 --> 02:06:11,670
produce inflation.

2220
02:06:13,140 --> 02:06:18,090
Adam Curry: So what do we do
with our rampant inflation in

2221
02:06:18,090 --> 02:06:22,890
the United States, where our
debt payments on the almost $34

2222
02:06:22,890 --> 02:06:27,270
trillion is now 1.7 trillion?
Which is more than we give to

2223
02:06:27,270 --> 02:06:32,160
the military industrial complex?
Can we pegged ourselves to our

2224
02:06:32,160 --> 02:06:32,820
own dollar

2225
02:06:33,210 --> 02:06:35,790
John C Dvorak: before we tend to
do that? Yeah, to pay off the

2226
02:06:35,790 --> 02:06:37,140
debt with paper money. How do

2227
02:06:37,140 --> 02:06:39,180
Adam Curry: we do that? What do
we do we just devalue the

2228
02:06:39,180 --> 02:06:43,980
dollar? It never happens. No, so
we don't tend to do that is what

2229
02:06:43,980 --> 02:06:46,380
you're saying? Well, it's

2230
02:06:46,380 --> 02:06:47,580
John C Dvorak: always on the
table.

2231
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:52,110
Adam Curry: There the results of
this Oregon let inflation

2232
02:06:52,110 --> 02:06:54,450
John C Dvorak: go nuts if it
goes up like crazy, like it did

2233
02:06:54,450 --> 02:07:01,680
in the 70s. It takes us that for
a while. Well,

2234
02:07:01,710 --> 02:07:03,840
Adam Curry: it seems to me if
you look at the the lay of the

2235
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:08,430
land, because now with the
effectively the whole Suez

2236
02:07:08,430 --> 02:07:11,220
Canal, read, read, see the whole
thing, you know, all the way

2237
02:07:11,220 --> 02:07:16,800
down to the Gulf of Aden, where
we know the Stargate is, yeah,

2238
02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:18,510
John C Dvorak: you know what
comes through that Stargate?

2239
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:20,520
Yes. Fish?

2240
02:07:20,550 --> 02:07:23,580
Adam Curry: Yes. Only when it's
open. Then the fish come out.

2241
02:07:24,930 --> 02:07:28,020
Already we're hearing all supply
chain supply chain, which I

2242
02:07:28,020 --> 02:07:34,590
think could be could be used to
blame inflation. Yeah, code.

2243
02:07:34,740 --> 02:07:38,760
Yeah. Yeah. If all it all it's
the Houthis the Houthi price

2244
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:45,810
hike. So the answer, which we've
been discussing for a long time

2245
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:52,410
is universal basic income. And
PBS News Hour had John Yang. I

2246
02:07:52,410 --> 02:07:56,040
mean, Michael Tubbs is he? I
think he's the mayor of Stockton

2247
02:07:56,070 --> 02:07:58,230
because this is this has been
one of those experiments in

2248
02:07:58,230 --> 02:08:03,450
Stockton, where they get give
people money as it they don't

2249
02:08:03,450 --> 02:08:05,670
call them call it universal
basic income income. They call

2250
02:08:05,670 --> 02:08:07,260
it something else. Yeah,

2251
02:08:07,290 --> 02:08:08,790
John C Dvorak: giving people
money. It's called

2252
02:08:08,790 --> 02:08:12,930
Adam Curry: giving people money.
But the people are getting

2253
02:08:12,930 --> 02:08:15,570
serious about this. You want to
hear some clips of

2254
02:08:15,570 --> 02:08:17,850
John C Dvorak: this? Yes, I
would like to hear so. It's not

2255
02:08:17,850 --> 02:08:21,480
Unknown: a new idea. No Strings
Attached payments to provide

2256
02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:25,290
people with a financial floor
what's called a guaranteed basic

2257
02:08:25,290 --> 02:08:29,520
income. It actually dates back
to 16th century England. Today,

2258
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:31,980
it's been tested in dozens of
pilot programs.

2259
02:08:31,980 --> 02:08:33,660
Adam Curry: Is there any
evidence of that? Did they use

2260
02:08:33,660 --> 02:08:37,140
it in the 1500s. In England,
they gave people universal basic

2261
02:08:37,140 --> 02:08:38,280
income. I'm

2262
02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:40,860
John C Dvorak: sure there was
some sort of giveaway going on

2263
02:08:40,860 --> 02:08:44,970
and it back in the day that has
been misinterpreted as such.

2264
02:08:45,390 --> 02:08:48,450
Unknown: Okay, it's across the
country think probably in cities

2265
02:08:48,450 --> 02:08:51,690
as big as Baltimore and as small
as Yellow Springs, Ohio

2266
02:08:51,690 --> 02:08:56,670
population about 3700. Some of
them use taxpayer funds. Others

2267
02:08:56,670 --> 02:09:00,090
use private contributions or
foundation grants. Stockton,

2268
02:09:00,090 --> 02:09:03,000
California was among the first
to launch a pilot program in

2269
02:09:03,030 --> 02:09:06,960
2019. Earlier I spoke with
Stockton, his mayor at the time,

2270
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:10,590
Michael Tubbs. He's also founder
of a group called mayor's for a

2271
02:09:10,590 --> 02:09:14,010
guaranteed income. I asked him
about the genesis of Stockton

2272
02:09:14,010 --> 02:09:15,690
Spro gram guaranteed

2273
02:09:15,690 --> 02:09:17,100
Adam Curry: income there it is
yet the

2274
02:09:17,100 --> 02:09:21,060
Unknown: crux of all the issues
from homelessness to crime to

2275
02:09:21,060 --> 02:09:25,890
education was this persistent
poverty and economic insecurity.

2276
02:09:26,190 --> 02:09:29,130
So I my first 100 days, I
gathered my team in the office

2277
02:09:29,130 --> 02:09:33,540
and I said, you guys, I want our
legacy to be an anti poverty, a

2278
02:09:33,540 --> 02:09:36,600
pro Economic Security
Administration. So let's come up

2279
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:41,070
with all the ideas for how can
we as a government ensure that

2280
02:09:41,070 --> 02:09:44,400
people have enough to live and
survive and eventually thrive?

2281
02:09:44,850 --> 02:09:47,820
And through that my team came
back with this idea of a

2282
02:09:47,820 --> 02:09:51,420
guaranteed income citing work
that was happening in places

2283
02:09:51,420 --> 02:09:54,690
like Kenya and in Mexico and
Brazil, that had heard of

2284
02:09:54,690 --> 02:09:57,630
guaranteed income from studying
Dr. King in college. So I was

2285
02:09:57,630 --> 02:10:01,650
familiar with the idea so I said
Well, let's do

2286
02:10:01,650 --> 02:10:04,800
Adam Curry: it. I love that
we're now on the level of Kenya.

2287
02:10:06,870 --> 02:10:11,040
In Brazil. Yeah, that's that's
getting pretty bad. And there's,

2288
02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:17,970
I think this is possibly a plan
for Democrats for 2024. And,

2289
02:10:18,390 --> 02:10:21,750
honestly, you know, everyone
pays attention when Oh, you're

2290
02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:25,050
gonna give me money that no
strings attached, you know, and

2291
02:10:25,290 --> 02:10:25,650
this will

2292
02:10:25,650 --> 02:10:29,640
John C Dvorak: be this is a
classic potential Democrat

2293
02:10:29,640 --> 02:10:33,540
promise to the black community.
Yes. Which they never deliver

2294
02:10:33,540 --> 02:10:37,800
on. And they should all remember
that, that, that welfare reform,

2295
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:40,170
which was throwing a lot of
money into that, in that

2296
02:10:40,170 --> 02:10:44,820
direction was kit was was
promoted and implemented by Bill

2297
02:10:44,820 --> 02:10:47,910
Clinton and other democratic
Pull, pull all that money back.

2298
02:10:48,510 --> 02:10:51,270
But yeah, it looks like a
promise this is not going to

2299
02:10:51,270 --> 02:10:51,840
happen.

2300
02:10:52,860 --> 02:10:55,080
Adam Curry: Did you say black
short term you say bluntness, or

2301
02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:56,490
do you say black community?

2302
02:10:56,580 --> 02:10:58,650
John C Dvorak: I said black
community Manjusha.

2303
02:10:59,880 --> 02:11:01,380
Adam Curry: Alright, so let's
find out what did he

2304
02:11:02,220 --> 02:11:04,410
John C Dvorak: say the black
voter there you got tends to

2305
02:11:04,410 --> 02:11:05,610
vote Democrat go. And

2306
02:11:05,610 --> 02:11:08,340
Unknown: as I understand it, the
program ran for two years, you

2307
02:11:08,340 --> 02:11:12,420
had 125 participants from
neighborhoods where the median

2308
02:11:12,420 --> 02:11:15,570
income was at or below the
city's median, which I think was

2309
02:11:15,570 --> 02:11:21,510
about $46,000. They got $500 a
month for two years. What did

2310
02:11:21,510 --> 02:11:22,020
you find?

2311
02:11:22,170 --> 02:11:26,850
Adam Curry: This is, by the way,
$46,000. I mean, I know people

2312
02:11:26,850 --> 02:11:29,640
in New York City who make less
than that, so people would pay

2313
02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:32,160
attention, oh, I'd be eligible
for something like this. So

2314
02:11:32,160 --> 02:11:34,170
Unknown: many people said the
money would be spent on drugs

2315
02:11:34,170 --> 02:11:37,710
and alcohol, that people would
stop working, or that people

2316
02:11:37,710 --> 02:11:41,580
would use that money to commit
crimes, etc. And what we saw was

2317
02:11:41,580 --> 02:11:44,970
that people spend money the way
you and I and the viewer spend

2318
02:11:44,970 --> 02:11:49,230
money, we saw them be two times
less likely to be unemployed. We

2319
02:11:49,230 --> 02:11:52,710
saw them spend the money on
things like utilities and

2320
02:11:52,710 --> 02:11:56,370
necessities on food and other
children. But we also saw health

2321
02:11:56,370 --> 02:11:59,610
impacts, we saw those with a
guaranteed income saw their

2322
02:11:59,610 --> 02:12:03,720
stress decrease just a small
amount of money was enough, not

2323
02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:06,270
for people to become
millionaires, or for people not

2324
02:12:06,270 --> 02:12:09,090
to be evicted for people that
take care of their children, for

2325
02:12:09,090 --> 02:12:11,730
people to be able to pay to get
their car fixed for people to

2326
02:12:11,730 --> 02:12:14,250
live and contribute to their
communities.

2327
02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:17,850
Adam Curry: Sounds like this was
a raging success. No one bought

2328
02:12:17,850 --> 02:12:22,830
drugs. I mean, is that how they
use the money? So

2329
02:12:22,830 --> 02:12:25,320
Unknown: everything you just
said it's sort of contradicts or

2330
02:12:25,500 --> 02:12:28,590
counters what the critics say,
because the critics say that

2331
02:12:28,620 --> 02:12:33,480
this takes away the incentive to
work, that this will foster bad

2332
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:36,630
spending decisions. But it
sounds like that that's not what

2333
02:12:36,630 --> 02:12:38,490
you found in Stockton. That's

2334
02:12:38,490 --> 02:12:42,630
not what we found in Stockton,
increasingly, from any of the

2335
02:12:42,660 --> 02:12:45,420
dozens of pilots happening
across this country in this

2336
02:12:45,420 --> 02:12:49,170
world consistently, which
suggests to me, John, that part

2337
02:12:49,170 --> 02:12:52,530
of the issue is not just a data
issue, but a storytelling issue

2338
02:12:52,530 --> 02:12:56,910
that we have to get people to
see the myths, the lies, the

2339
02:12:57,090 --> 02:13:01,260
prejudices, the stereotypes and
biases we have against people

2340
02:13:01,260 --> 02:13:02,400
who may have less money

2341
02:13:02,790 --> 02:13:05,970
Adam Curry: yet, let's go to the
myths and the lies. Because this

2342
02:13:05,970 --> 02:13:10,530
guy thinks that Social Security
is just like a like a thing that

2343
02:13:10,530 --> 02:13:13,950
the government is just nicely
giving to people skips the whole

2344
02:13:13,950 --> 02:13:18,450
point of you pay into Social
Security your entire life. I

2345
02:13:18,450 --> 02:13:21,900
think he's setting us up for a
me now, there's not going to be

2346
02:13:21,900 --> 02:13:25,110
any social security because that
money as you've pointed out,

2347
02:13:25,110 --> 02:13:30,990
John, is gone. It's been used,
stolen, stolen, stolen,

2348
02:13:31,170 --> 02:13:32,250
John C Dvorak: so stolen.

2349
02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:35,520
Adam Curry: So you know, there's
some local tax and give people

2350
02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:36,690
money from that. Do

2351
02:13:36,690 --> 02:13:40,020
Unknown: you see guaranteed
income programs, supplementing

2352
02:13:40,020 --> 02:13:42,990
government assistance programs,
or replacing government

2353
02:13:42,990 --> 02:13:44,040
assistance programs?

2354
02:13:44,070 --> 02:13:48,090
I see as a supplemental I see it
really as an extension of the

2355
02:13:48,090 --> 02:13:52,860
social safety net, I see it as
as our 21st century, um, Social

2356
02:13:52,860 --> 02:13:56,220
Security. In the Great
Depression, we decide that folks

2357
02:13:56,220 --> 02:14:00,780
who are older, deserve to have a
little bit of cushion post 65

2358
02:14:00,810 --> 02:14:03,420
Because they've done so much for
our communities. And also think

2359
02:14:03,420 --> 02:14:03,750
because

2360
02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:06,210
Adam Curry: they've done so much
for our communities. No, because

2361
02:14:06,210 --> 02:14:11,040
they paid that money in, you're
supposed to steward it, man, you

2362
02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:12,150
didn't you stole it.

2363
02:14:12,690 --> 02:14:15,270
Unknown: And also think our
current government programs

2364
02:14:15,390 --> 02:14:18,360
should take note about what
makes guaranteed income works

2365
02:14:18,360 --> 02:14:21,960
because hey, it's the money. But
be it's also the trust, that

2366
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:25,860
maybe people don't need to do a
bunch of paperwork. Maybe folks

2367
02:14:25,860 --> 02:14:29,310
don't need someone to sit down
and make them come in and set

2368
02:14:29,310 --> 02:14:32,820
goals. Maybe a lot of folks just
need cash. And maybe that will

2369
02:14:32,820 --> 02:14:35,220
make some of the investments
we're making as a government

2370
02:14:35,400 --> 02:14:37,860
that much more efficient.

2371
02:14:38,160 --> 02:14:42,030
Adam Curry: He did banking on
people not noticing this. He's

2372
02:14:42,030 --> 02:14:44,880
gone, man. I'm sorry. It's just
gone. Where are we going? This

2373
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:46,950
is the final clip. Where are we
going to get the money from

2374
02:14:47,100 --> 02:14:49,800
Unknown: these programs, the
pilot programs, some of them use

2375
02:14:49,980 --> 02:14:53,280
government money. Some of them
use private donations, some of

2376
02:14:53,280 --> 02:14:56,490
them use grant money from
foundations. If you were able to

2377
02:14:56,490 --> 02:14:59,160
make this permanent across the
country, how do you think it

2378
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:00,570
should be funded? We

2379
02:15:00,570 --> 02:15:03,930
are able to make this permanent
across the country. And again, I

2380
02:15:03,930 --> 02:15:06,930
get the child tax credit is a
huge start, which is a

2381
02:15:06,930 --> 02:15:11,400
guaranteed income, be it for
families with children. So state

2382
02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:14,460
governments, county governments,
local governments, we're doing

2383
02:15:14,460 --> 02:15:18,060
pilots there, because those
governments can't deficit spin.

2384
02:15:18,300 --> 02:15:22,440
They have to have a balanced
budget every year. Our federal

2385
02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:26,310
government can, and we do, we
can also raise revenue. We can

2386
02:15:26,310 --> 02:15:29,340
legalize cannabis nationwide and
use a tax revenue for that to

2387
02:15:29,340 --> 02:15:33,300
pay for guaranteed income. We
could close in 2017 Trump tax

2388
02:15:33,300 --> 02:15:37,770
cuts, which gave their dollars
away to the richest among us, we

2389
02:15:37,770 --> 02:15:41,160
get close other tax loopholes,
oh crap, a guaranteed income.

2390
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:45,840
There's no shortage of ways of
paying for it. I really believe

2391
02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:48,690
that. The question is, how do we
build the wheel? How do we make

2392
02:15:48,690 --> 02:15:52,410
a necessity? It's a political
question. We have to organize

2393
02:15:52,410 --> 02:15:56,550
and demand of our elected
officials that this is what we

2394
02:15:56,550 --> 02:15:59,880
need and let them know this is
not scary. It's not an extreme

2395
02:15:59,880 --> 02:16:04,980
position. This is not a utopian
position. This is a position

2396
02:16:04,980 --> 02:16:09,030
that Republicans and Democrats
alike are both suffering. And

2397
02:16:09,030 --> 02:16:12,870
that's sliminess anger. We see
this this this raging populism

2398
02:16:12,870 --> 02:16:16,800
we see comes from economic
anxiety in some way. So this is

2399
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:19,950
not a partisan issue, which is a
long answer to say it's a

2400
02:16:19,950 --> 02:16:22,410
political question, but we've
been doing the work to build

2401
02:16:22,410 --> 02:16:27,120
political will, it will continue
pushing until we get there. I

2402
02:16:27,120 --> 02:16:29,670
Adam Curry: think it will
happen. And I think this is the

2403
02:16:29,670 --> 02:16:33,030
plan. I'm now I'm gonna go a
little Whitney Webb on you. But

2404
02:16:33,060 --> 02:16:36,540
this is this is where you bring
in your central bank, digital

2405
02:16:36,540 --> 02:16:40,410
currency. This is where you can
print your money, you can make

2406
02:16:40,410 --> 02:16:45,300
it all magically appear, put it
into people's pocket. That would

2407
02:16:45,300 --> 02:16:48,720
be the way to do it. Not this
whatever he was saying I got

2408
02:16:48,720 --> 02:16:54,690
Foundation's grant Manana. And
this is on PBS. So it's not

2409
02:16:54,720 --> 02:16:57,090
obscure, you know, they're
working this angle.

2410
02:16:58,050 --> 02:16:59,700
John C Dvorak: Well, they're
gonna take it, it's gonna take a

2411
02:16:59,700 --> 02:17:04,170
lot more work. I'm not going to
argue that it's not going to

2412
02:17:04,170 --> 02:17:07,710
happen eventually. Because the
way things are set up. It's it

2413
02:17:07,710 --> 02:17:11,790
has to happen. It's almost
inevitable. But what the

2414
02:17:11,790 --> 02:17:14,670
Adam Curry: timeframe Basic
Income universal basic income,

2415
02:17:14,670 --> 02:17:15,750
yeah, yeah,

2416
02:17:15,900 --> 02:17:19,170
John C Dvorak: it's inevitable.
But the tie, especially after

2417
02:17:19,170 --> 02:17:25,410
robbing the Social Security
money. And then they've done

2418
02:17:25,410 --> 02:17:28,350
they've ratchet everybody down.
I mean, I make money on Social

2419
02:17:28,350 --> 02:17:32,250
Security and my wife makes half
as much. And you know, it's

2420
02:17:32,250 --> 02:17:35,430
gonna be almost nothing. Of
course, expect Well, there you

2421
02:17:35,430 --> 02:17:39,510
go. Yeah, I never thought of
that. So they're going to

2422
02:17:39,750 --> 02:17:44,160
implement to somehow, because
it's a necessity, and I don't

2423
02:17:44,160 --> 02:17:48,600
know how it's going to come.
It's not going to be good. It's

2424
02:17:48,600 --> 02:17:51,600
going to be something it's going
to be something screwed up about

2425
02:17:51,600 --> 02:17:53,280
it. You know that yes.
Government.

2426
02:17:53,310 --> 02:17:55,560
Adam Curry: Yeah. But maybe we
won't be around maybe it'll take

2427
02:17:55,560 --> 02:17:56,880
a long time. Maybe. No,

2428
02:17:57,089 --> 02:17:58,649
John C Dvorak: I think it's
going to take a long time. We

2429
02:17:58,649 --> 02:18:00,899
can cruise along for a while.
You're gonna first I gotta get

2430
02:18:00,959 --> 02:18:02,579
set up the shanty towns.

2431
02:18:02,610 --> 02:18:04,380
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, yes, yes,
this

2432
02:18:04,380 --> 02:18:07,800
John C Dvorak: is good news. And
I have a shanty town story kind

2433
02:18:07,800 --> 02:18:13,020
of this like a street on up here
in Novato. I didn't know

2434
02:18:13,020 --> 02:18:15,210
anything about this. I was
watching this on the news.

2435
02:18:16,620 --> 02:18:23,610
Where's this clip? Good
questions on here.

2436
02:18:24,570 --> 02:18:27,660
Adam Curry: Homeless Novato
solution. Gotcha. That would

2437
02:18:27,660 --> 02:18:28,620
John C Dvorak: probably be the
clip

2438
02:18:28,650 --> 02:18:31,350
Unknown: campers began showing
up on Binford Road in rural

2439
02:18:31,350 --> 02:18:35,550
Nevada shortly after the 2017
Tubbs fire made a lot of Sonoma

2440
02:18:35,550 --> 02:18:39,000
County residents homeless. Over
the years. It's grown thanks to

2441
02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:43,200
the pandemic, the economy and
high cost of living. Dino monta.

2442
02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:46,350
Reylo moved his trailer here
from Sonoma County about eight

2443
02:18:46,350 --> 02:18:50,520
months ago and says a lot of the
stress has been relieved here

2444
02:18:51,060 --> 02:18:54,270
is nice because you don't have
to worry about the shares coming

2445
02:18:54,270 --> 02:18:57,690
in and kicking, making you move
go to another spot and then

2446
02:18:57,690 --> 02:19:00,180
making you go to another spot
and back and forth in standard

2447
02:19:00,180 --> 02:19:03,540
Sonoma. We that's what we're
doing constantly constantly

2448
02:19:03,780 --> 02:19:06,900
shuffling individuals around or
moving them from location to

2449
02:19:06,900 --> 02:19:10,830
location doesn't really solve
anything. Marine supervisor Eric

2450
02:19:10,830 --> 02:19:13,740
Lucan says the county is taking
a more practical approach to the

2451
02:19:13,740 --> 02:19:17,460
RVs on Binford making the
encampment more livable rather

2452
02:19:17,460 --> 02:19:20,940
than just trying to remove it.
They supply portable toilets and

2453
02:19:20,940 --> 02:19:24,720
hand washing stations and trash
pickup three times a week so you

2454
02:19:24,720 --> 02:19:28,350
don't see piles of garbage and
junk collected other camps. But

2455
02:19:28,350 --> 02:19:32,790
Lucan says there was a necessary
first step number one we stopped

2456
02:19:32,790 --> 02:19:36,750
it from growing any larger, we
physically closed off spaces on

2457
02:19:36,750 --> 02:19:41,880
Binford road to stop the growth.
As soon as a vehicle leaves a

2458
02:19:41,880 --> 02:19:45,870
fence or earthen berm is put in
its place. Slowly the number of

2459
02:19:45,870 --> 02:19:50,280
people living on Binford has
been reduced to 101 individuals.

2460
02:19:50,370 --> 02:19:54,000
Just in the last month we've
seen 10 individuals on Binford

2461
02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:58,080
road move into a more permanent
permanent housing solution. You

2462
02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:01,110
know the approach we're taking
on Binford is We want the next

2463
02:20:01,110 --> 02:20:04,380
move that anybody on Binford
road has to make that next move

2464
02:20:04,380 --> 02:20:08,130
they should make should be into
into a house to encourage that

2465
02:20:08,130 --> 02:20:11,460
the county is trying something
new, an idea that work to clear

2466
02:20:11,460 --> 02:20:14,910
out many of the unwanted anchor
out boats in Richardson harbor.

2467
02:20:15,270 --> 02:20:18,210
They're offering to pay people
on Binford road who find

2468
02:20:18,210 --> 02:20:24,150
permanent housing $175 per
linear foot for their old RVs.

2469
02:20:24,210 --> 02:20:28,020
So a standard RV that might be
four or $5,000. These funds can

2470
02:20:28,020 --> 02:20:31,530
be used for first last month's
rent security deposit or whole

2471
02:20:31,530 --> 02:20:33,750
variety of things needed when
they make that move.

2472
02:20:33,780 --> 02:20:36,960
Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. Give me
the money.

2473
02:20:38,550 --> 02:20:40,530
John C Dvorak: Yeah, give me the
money that you need to get the

2474
02:20:40,530 --> 02:20:41,070
money here.

2475
02:20:41,100 --> 02:20:44,160
Adam Curry: Here's what I think
the people experiencing

2476
02:20:44,160 --> 02:20:46,980
homelessness and we have a few
people listening who have been

2477
02:20:46,980 --> 02:20:48,930
experiencing homelessness. Sure.

2478
02:20:48,960 --> 02:20:50,910
John C Dvorak: You have to buy
the numbers we have. We have to

2479
02:20:50,910 --> 02:20:52,800
have quite a few actually one of
our producers

2480
02:20:52,800 --> 02:20:55,590
Adam Curry: actually sent to
boots on the ground. He He

2481
02:20:55,590 --> 02:21:00,810
doesn't say he's homeless. He
says he is van lifing which I

2482
02:21:00,810 --> 02:21:08,460
think is a great way of just van
lifing. He's a van lifer. And he

2483
02:21:08,460 --> 02:21:11,070
gave me a boots on the ground
report about Humboldt Park in

2484
02:21:11,070 --> 02:21:14,460
Chicago. But he's horrible tents
that they've put down for

2485
02:21:14,670 --> 02:21:18,480
migrants that that are not
waterproof. They're trying to

2486
02:21:18,480 --> 02:21:21,660
throw plastic over them to
waterproof or make them a little

2487
02:21:21,660 --> 02:21:25,290
bit warmer. The tent is not
waterproof, rather these orange

2488
02:21:25,290 --> 02:21:29,760
things that are kind of like
geodesic dome tents are no good.

2489
02:21:30,390 --> 02:21:34,320
And, and I was thinking,
considering all the reports

2490
02:21:34,320 --> 02:21:38,520
we're seeing about the migration
replacement program from the

2491
02:21:38,520 --> 02:21:41,700
United Nations into mainly the
United States but of course all

2492
02:21:41,700 --> 02:21:49,050
over Western Europe is your best
bet is to find one of these. One

2493
02:21:49,050 --> 02:21:52,350
of these people who works for
these agencies, these NGOs who

2494
02:21:52,350 --> 02:21:57,810
shuttle illegal immigrants
around you can always you'll

2495
02:21:57,810 --> 02:22:01,380
know because of a clipboard or
maybe an umbrella or both. And

2496
02:22:01,380 --> 02:22:04,560
just go over there and say and
snowing glass and then you'll

2497
02:22:04,560 --> 02:22:09,150
get a debit card you're gonna
phone you're buying. You get a

2498
02:22:09,180 --> 02:22:12,450
you get you can get a piece of
paper that you can travel to any

2499
02:22:12,450 --> 02:22:17,370
city you want. This is people
are mad. Everybody seeing this

2500
02:22:17,370 --> 02:22:21,480
now. People are mad about these
long lines to get on the plane.

2501
02:22:21,630 --> 02:22:26,820
The paying customers now have to
wait while the illegal migrants

2502
02:22:26,820 --> 02:22:31,440
get on the board first. They
don't have to show any ID. They

2503
02:22:31,440 --> 02:22:36,870
can it's people are mad. This is
this is the Biden has screwed

2504
02:22:36,870 --> 02:22:40,980
this one up. They really you
know ball blows his taxes taxes.

2505
02:22:40,980 --> 02:22:46,530
No, no, no. The coming from
Arizona. They're coming from and

2506
02:22:46,530 --> 02:22:49,770
they're they're getting on
flight. So it's Texas now. No,

2507
02:22:50,100 --> 02:22:56,010
I'm so sorry. I thought that you
said something.

2508
02:22:56,040 --> 02:22:58,590
John C Dvorak: No, I just
mumbled Texas. I think I have a

2509
02:22:58,590 --> 02:23:03,000
migration update. It says
duration but it's actually

2510
02:23:03,000 --> 02:23:04,650
migration update on NTD.

2511
02:23:04,680 --> 02:23:06,990
Unknown: More people are
entering the United States

2512
02:23:06,990 --> 02:23:10,890
illegally this week. Fox News on
Friday published this video of

2513
02:23:10,890 --> 02:23:14,340
African men arriving at the
southern border saying only two

2514
02:23:14,340 --> 02:23:17,760
border agents were on the scene
to process all of the people you

2515
02:23:17,760 --> 02:23:22,140
see here. CBP tells the outlet
that there have been 45,000

2516
02:23:22,140 --> 02:23:25,530
encounters at the border since
Monday, able to fill Yankee

2517
02:23:25,530 --> 02:23:29,040
Stadium in just four days.
Monday was the highest day of

2518
02:23:29,040 --> 02:23:33,780
encounters ever recorded with
12,600. December is on pace to

2519
02:23:33,780 --> 02:23:36,990
become the highest month ever.
Many say they're heading for

2520
02:23:36,990 --> 02:23:42,090
sanctuary cities. New York, New
York, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago,

2521
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:46,080
Chicago. Mexico's president on
Friday acknowledged the

2522
02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:50,400
situation is getting worse. Even
what's happening. We will boost

2523
02:23:50,400 --> 02:23:54,210
as much as we can to help
maintain an orderly flow of

2524
02:23:54,210 --> 02:23:57,690
migrants, which recently there
was an abnormal surge of

2525
02:23:57,690 --> 02:23:58,620
migrants are they

2526
02:23:58,620 --> 02:24:02,370
now this king, he now says he'll
step up efforts on Mexico

2527
02:24:02,370 --> 02:24:05,760
southern border with Guatemala
and seek agreements to manage

2528
02:24:05,760 --> 02:24:09,120
higher numbers of immigrants
attempting to enter the US? Oh,

2529
02:24:09,120 --> 02:24:09,510
higher

2530
02:24:09,510 --> 02:24:11,670
Adam Curry: numbers. Oh, just
manage them. Don't worry about

2531
02:24:11,670 --> 02:24:17,970
it. Africa, there are now these
so called travel agencies in

2532
02:24:17,970 --> 02:24:21,210
Senegal. They have websites.
They have completely complete

2533
02:24:21,210 --> 02:24:24,630
packages. Well, yeah, we'll get
you we'll get you to the US.

2534
02:24:26,100 --> 02:24:27,720
John C Dvorak: Like it's like
Yeah, well, that guy in that

2535
02:24:27,720 --> 02:24:33,150
report who whose voice I love.
He said they showed that mostly

2536
02:24:33,150 --> 02:24:36,690
Africans coming in as slot
Africans, but they'd be Play

2537
02:24:36,690 --> 02:24:37,320
Part Two.

2538
02:24:37,950 --> 02:24:41,250
Unknown: Meanwhile, Texas is now
reportedly adding anti climbing

2539
02:24:41,250 --> 02:24:44,730
technology to its fences in
Brownsville that's by erecting

2540
02:24:44,730 --> 02:24:48,720
12 foot tall fences laced with
three feet of concertina wire.

2541
02:24:48,930 --> 02:24:50,160
This comes just that love

2542
02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:54,900
Adam Curry: the anti climbing
technology. Wire I love

2543
02:24:55,920 --> 02:24:58,800
Unknown: this called my mighty
rifle. This comes just days

2544
02:24:58,800 --> 02:25:01,470
after a court temporary rarely
prohibited the federal

2545
02:25:01,470 --> 02:25:05,280
government from removing the
state's razor wires. And lastly,

2546
02:25:05,280 --> 02:25:08,610
in New York City, the United
Federation of Teachers is suing

2547
02:25:08,610 --> 02:25:12,270
Mayor Eric Adams back in
November, Adams warned of budget

2548
02:25:12,270 --> 02:25:13,920
cuts for city services.

2549
02:25:14,130 --> 02:25:16,620
So it's going to is going to be
extremely painful for New

2550
02:25:16,620 --> 02:25:19,680
Yorkers. And that is why we
continue to say we need help.

2551
02:25:19,860 --> 02:25:23,430
The mayor now wants to cut half
a billion dollars from education

2552
02:25:23,460 --> 02:25:26,280
in order to deal with the influx
of illegal immigrants.

2553
02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:28,770
Adam Curry: Oh, this is great.
All right, but I have one clip

2554
02:25:28,770 --> 02:25:32,340
from Chicago, just so we can
hear what Chicago has done

2555
02:25:32,340 --> 02:25:35,220
because you know, it's Texas,
Texas, these people, the one you

2556
02:25:35,220 --> 02:25:37,620
just heard they're getting on
planes flying in Chicago, but

2557
02:25:37,620 --> 02:25:40,980
okay, it's Texas. It's that
horrible Texans government. I

2558
02:25:40,980 --> 02:25:43,470
can't believe that Governor,
that guy's no good if he wasn't

2559
02:25:43,470 --> 02:25:49,110
in a wheelchair, I'd beat him
up. So they've now put a rule in

2560
02:25:49,110 --> 02:25:53,670
place in Chicago. That if you if
you're coming in with a bus with

2561
02:25:53,700 --> 02:25:57,420
illegal immigrants, then you
have to call up five days ahead

2562
02:25:57,420 --> 02:26:00,630
of time to get permission. But
of course they can't or they

2563
02:26:00,630 --> 02:26:03,570
encounter the bus impound the
bus. Of course, no one's going

2564
02:26:03,570 --> 02:26:06,960
to because you're not gonna get
permission from the sanctuary

2565
02:26:06,960 --> 02:26:09,900
cities from now. Oh, no, no, so
that just dropping them off

2566
02:26:09,900 --> 02:26:10,650
anywhere now

2567
02:26:10,680 --> 02:26:13,440
Unknown: lets companies from
Texas are dropping off migrants

2568
02:26:13,440 --> 02:26:17,340
in areas outside Chicago Friday
night Hinsdale became the latest

2569
02:26:17,340 --> 02:26:20,790
suburb to see migrants dropped
off without advanced warning.

2570
02:26:20,880 --> 02:26:24,150
City officials say communication
is broken down between Chicago

2571
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:27,180
and officials along the southern
border. Buses transporting

2572
02:26:27,180 --> 02:26:30,870
migrants are avoiding the city's
designated landing zone. This is

2573
02:26:30,870 --> 02:26:34,320
in response to tougher penalties
for bus owners who violate a new

2574
02:26:34,320 --> 02:26:37,200
city ordinance. This week.
migrants were dropped off in

2575
02:26:37,200 --> 02:26:40,770
areas like wooddale Aurora and
Kankakee County Sheriff Mike

2576
02:26:40,770 --> 02:26:44,280
Downey says migrants were found
walking on Interstate 57. They

2577
02:26:44,280 --> 02:26:46,950
were dropped off Thursday
morning at a truck stop. They

2578
02:26:46,950 --> 02:26:49,950
were told that they had read
Chicago he says migrants were

2579
02:26:49,950 --> 02:26:53,100
wrapped in blankets and several
children were among them. They

2580
02:26:53,100 --> 02:26:57,060
all came from El Paso, Texas has
offices working on tracking down

2581
02:26:57,090 --> 02:26:59,700
the bus company. Meanwhile, in
Aurora, we

2582
02:26:59,700 --> 02:27:03,090
didn't turn anyone away. And I
hope that as you all leave this

2583
02:27:03,090 --> 02:27:06,330
room today, you have that clear
Aurora city

2584
02:27:06,330 --> 02:27:09,180
leaders hold a special meeting
Friday afternoon to discuss the

2585
02:27:09,180 --> 02:27:12,600
influx of migrants arriving by
bus at the Aurora Transportation

2586
02:27:12,600 --> 02:27:15,750
Center. They say migrants are
being encouraged to board Metro

2587
02:27:15,750 --> 02:27:19,020
trains and head to Chicago, they
pass an emergency ordinance

2588
02:27:19,020 --> 02:27:22,470
requiring bus companies to now
give a five day notice to get

2589
02:27:22,500 --> 02:27:26,280
approval for a drop off along
with a detailed care plan for

2590
02:27:26,280 --> 02:27:27,330
their passengers.

2591
02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:30,120
It's necessary for us to be
responsible

2592
02:27:30,750 --> 02:27:35,070
and take those steps to protect
not only those individuals that

2593
02:27:35,070 --> 02:27:38,700
being dropped off here in Aurora
those migrants but also protect

2594
02:27:38,730 --> 02:27:40,770
the residents of Aurora. And

2595
02:27:40,770 --> 02:27:43,800
again, just today migrants we're
seeing boarding trains from

2596
02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:48,300
Aurora to Chicago that new
ordinance in Aurora going into

2597
02:27:48,330 --> 02:27:51,930
effect tonight the buses in
violation will be facing fines

2598
02:27:51,930 --> 02:27:54,060
and potential forfeiture of
their bus.

2599
02:27:54,450 --> 02:27:58,770
Adam Curry: This is the single
issue that that will not makes

2600
02:27:58,770 --> 02:28:02,910
Biden unelectable unreal
electable. The Americans are

2601
02:28:02,910 --> 02:28:06,000
sick of it and they're sick of
it because it seems like we

2602
02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:10,440
don't hate these people. But no,
just stop. This is this is

2603
02:28:10,440 --> 02:28:14,700
ridiculous. Have you seen the
Eagle Pass video? Yeah, wow.

2604
02:28:14,700 --> 02:28:18,900
It's like Disneyland lines. And
we're like Disneyland. This is

2605
02:28:18,930 --> 02:28:25,770
this is totally crazy. So what
is Biden to go talk to Mexico

2606
02:28:25,860 --> 02:28:29,460
Unknown: in the town of Eagle
Pass hundreds of people waiting

2607
02:28:29,460 --> 02:28:32,580
the coal to be processed by US
border officials.

2608
02:28:32,970 --> 02:28:36,660
In recent weeks illegal border
crossings have seen a surge

2609
02:28:36,810 --> 02:28:41,100
straining immigration services.
President Biden who is seeking

2610
02:28:41,100 --> 02:28:45,060
reelection next year is trying
to regain control of the issue.

2611
02:28:45,090 --> 02:28:48,240
He has been under significant
political pressure to curb the

2612
02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:49,590
numbers President

2613
02:28:50,160 --> 02:28:53,790
had a chance this morning to
speak by phone with President

2614
02:28:53,790 --> 02:28:57,990
Lopez Obrador of Mexico. two
leaders agreed that additional

2615
02:28:57,990 --> 02:29:01,170
enforcement actions are urgently
needed so that key ports of

2616
02:29:01,170 --> 02:29:05,430
entry can be reopened across our
shared border. President Biden

2617
02:29:05,700 --> 02:29:08,940
has asked Secretary of State
Tony Blinken, Secretary of

2618
02:29:08,940 --> 02:29:12,090
Homeland Security Alejandro
Mayorkas and White House

2619
02:29:12,090 --> 02:29:16,050
Homeland Security Adviser Liz
Sherwood Randall to travel to

2620
02:29:16,050 --> 02:29:17,460
Mexico in coming days.

2621
02:29:17,580 --> 02:29:20,550
The US president has been
accused by Republicans of being

2622
02:29:20,550 --> 02:29:24,300
too lacks on immigration. In
recent weeks. Border Police have

2623
02:29:24,300 --> 02:29:27,930
been recording almost 10,000
people crossing the border every

2624
02:29:27,930 --> 02:29:32,250
day. This comes as the governor
of Texas signed a bill on Monday

2625
02:29:32,370 --> 02:29:36,270
effectively criminalizing the
illegal entry of migrants with

2626
02:29:36,270 --> 02:29:40,950
penalties ranging from 180 days
in jail to 20 years in prison.

2627
02:29:41,580 --> 02:29:46,110
The law, known as SB four will
also give local authorities the

2628
02:29:46,110 --> 02:29:49,620
power to deport migrants to
Mexico and this set to come into

2629
02:29:49,620 --> 02:29:50,580
force in March

2630
02:29:50,610 --> 02:29:53,730
and instead of I'm also signing
Senate Bill three from the

2631
02:29:53,730 --> 02:30:00,450
fourth special session. Senate
Bill three as $1.54 billion More

2632
02:30:00,450 --> 02:30:02,730
to build more Border barriers
and

2633
02:30:02,730 --> 02:30:05,160
walls. Like what we have here.
The

2634
02:30:05,160 --> 02:30:07,890
Biden administration's takeover
comes at a time when

2635
02:30:07,890 --> 02:30:11,430
parliamentarians in Washington
are discussing an agreement on

2636
02:30:11,430 --> 02:30:15,780
immigration, a condition imposed
by the Republicans in order to

2637
02:30:15,780 --> 02:30:18,870
unblock the financial aid to
Ukraine sought by the

2638
02:30:18,870 --> 02:30:19,650
President's.

2639
02:30:19,740 --> 02:30:20,550
Adam Curry: There you go.

2640
02:30:20,610 --> 02:30:23,250
John C Dvorak: Did you know she
said the Biden administration's

2641
02:30:23,280 --> 02:30:25,020
takeover? Yeah, I

2642
02:30:25,020 --> 02:30:28,800
Adam Curry: heard that. What
does that mean? I'm not sure.

2643
02:30:30,030 --> 02:30:37,260
I'm not sure. When was that
report from the France 24? All

2644
02:30:37,260 --> 02:30:39,330
they have to do is just say, No,
we're just going to adhere to

2645
02:30:39,330 --> 02:30:41,310
the law. They don't need
comprehensive immigration

2646
02:30:41,310 --> 02:30:42,180
reform. No, the

2647
02:30:42,180 --> 02:30:45,030
John C Dvorak: only thing the
law is the law we have a law in

2648
02:30:45,030 --> 02:30:46,680
place we're gonna get
comprehensive

2649
02:30:46,680 --> 02:30:50,370
Adam Curry: immigration reform
it will require the ID in order

2650
02:30:50,370 --> 02:30:54,210
to work that now that Whitney
Webb that's what's happening.

2651
02:30:54,240 --> 02:30:58,380
That's where your your
government ID comes in. That's

2652
02:30:58,380 --> 02:31:06,600
where That's where it comes
from. Not from X. All right. Let

2653
02:31:06,600 --> 02:31:09,990
me just just so we can just a
little bit of Christmas cheer.

2654
02:31:10,410 --> 02:31:12,780
Let's go down under for
Christmas cheer. We're

2655
02:31:12,780 --> 02:31:15,450
Unknown: in for a COVID
Christmas this year as cases

2656
02:31:15,450 --> 02:31:19,140
rise, particularly in children.
Lose Daniels takes us through

2657
02:31:19,140 --> 02:31:21,300
the latest data from New South
Wales Health.

2658
02:31:21,900 --> 02:31:25,620
Well School's out and COVID
about the number of emergency

2659
02:31:25,620 --> 02:31:28,800
department presentations has
been climbing steadily over the

2660
02:31:28,800 --> 02:31:32,730
past three weeks, driven by
children and people aged between

2661
02:31:32,730 --> 02:31:37,140
17 and 49. New South Wales
Health sewage surveillance now

2662
02:31:37,140 --> 02:31:41,220
pointing to Bondi, Liverpool and
Quakers Hill as the virus

2663
02:31:41,220 --> 02:31:45,510
hotspots with new variants
including J and one on the rise.

2664
02:31:45,660 --> 02:31:49,350
There were also increases in the
number of influenza and RSV

2665
02:31:49,350 --> 02:31:53,790
cases, both also surging in
children and New South Wales

2666
02:31:53,790 --> 02:31:56,940
Health advice perhaps the
greatest gift you can give your

2667
02:31:56,940 --> 02:32:00,630
vulnerable loved ones these
Christmas is to take them to get

2668
02:32:00,630 --> 02:32:03,870
the newest updated monovalent to
shop.

2669
02:32:04,200 --> 02:32:07,920
Adam Curry: There you go. Hey,
you go and it's the wastewater

2670
02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:10,800
we know this because of the your
poop water and Ives how we know

2671
02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:12,240
that COVID is on the rise.

2672
02:32:12,330 --> 02:32:14,280
John C Dvorak: And of course we
know it's on the rise because of

2673
02:32:14,280 --> 02:32:15,810
this super clip I have.

2674
02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:18,390
Adam Curry: Oh, no, please don't
play it because we played that

2675
02:32:18,390 --> 02:32:19,680
in 2021.

2676
02:32:20,310 --> 02:32:21,480
John C Dvorak: It's just a
classic.

2677
02:32:23,310 --> 02:32:26,970
Adam Curry: How about this? How
about this? How about I play

2678
02:32:26,970 --> 02:32:32,190
your classic but I play it from
Episode 1392 2021.

2679
02:32:33,660 --> 02:32:35,340
John C Dvorak: Does that sound
good day wonders they've been

2680
02:32:35,340 --> 02:32:40,650
added into the exact same clip,
especially the TV broadcasters.

2681
02:32:40,650 --> 02:32:41,010
There

2682
02:32:41,010 --> 02:32:44,970
Adam Curry: is a fabulous
supercut that has been doing the

2683
02:32:44,970 --> 02:32:50,820
rounds which I shall play for
you that illustrates exactly how

2684
02:32:50,820 --> 02:32:54,780
much big pharma owns. The media
is brought to you by

2685
02:32:54,840 --> 02:32:56,670
Unknown: Pfizer, CBS Healthwatch

2686
02:32:56,670 --> 02:33:00,330
sponsored by Pfizer, Anderson
Cooper 360.

2687
02:33:01,050 --> 02:33:02,700
Brought to you by Pfizer.

2688
02:33:02,790 --> 02:33:05,340
John C Dvorak: I'll just say
okay, I'll tell you this is not

2689
02:33:05,340 --> 02:33:08,280
the exact same one because the
first clip in this new one's

2690
02:33:08,310 --> 02:33:12,120
longer. It's the same thing. It
has a woman passing out and then

2691
02:33:12,120 --> 02:33:14,730
every other clip has a woman or
a guy falling over

2692
02:33:14,760 --> 02:33:17,670
Adam Curry: yes this morning
sponsored by Pfizer. Good

2693
02:33:17,670 --> 02:33:21,180
Morning America is brought to
you by fire. CBS Healthwatch

2694
02:33:21,180 --> 02:33:26,610
sponsored by Pfizer, Anderson
Cooper 360 brought to you by

2695
02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:31,800
Pfizer Nightline we're not
brought to you by Pfizer but I

2696
02:33:31,800 --> 02:33:34,620
would like to say in the morning
to you the man who put the seeds

2697
02:33:34,620 --> 02:33:37,860
in the COVID Christmas say hello
to my friend on the other end

2698
02:33:37,860 --> 02:33:39,540
the one and only Mr. Johnson

2699
02:33:45,450 --> 02:33:47,370
John C Dvorak: in the morning,
Mr. Adam curry the more he ships

2700
02:33:47,370 --> 02:33:49,590
at sea the boots on the ground
the feet in the air the subs in

2701
02:33:49,590 --> 02:33:50,940
the water and the Dames

2702
02:33:51,660 --> 02:33:52,500
Adam Curry: and the mornings

2703
02:33:58,530 --> 02:34:02,490
Wow, a whole bunch of them ran
away. I don't even want to tell

2704
02:34:02,490 --> 02:34:06,450
you what the count is for today.
It's Christmas. Christmas is

2705
02:34:06,450 --> 02:34:10,410
bad. John is bad. It was the
best of times it was the worst

2706
02:34:10,410 --> 02:34:12,270
of times. 13 No. Nobody's

2707
02:34:12,270 --> 02:34:14,790
John C Dvorak: expected to be
listening to our show. Except

2708
02:34:15,210 --> 02:34:20,340
the ones that are important
people out there. 1000 A day

2709
02:34:20,340 --> 02:34:22,620
like is a holiday when they
should be spending time with

2710
02:34:22,950 --> 02:34:23,370
friends

2711
02:34:23,370 --> 02:34:27,870
Adam Curry: and families. 1393
Charles Holy moly. That

2712
02:34:27,870 --> 02:34:31,650
John C Dvorak: is the record low
for a Sunday is pretty bad.

2713
02:34:32,790 --> 02:34:35,370
That's the record low for Sunday
because that's that's half of

2714
02:34:35,370 --> 02:34:35,970
what the audience

2715
02:34:35,970 --> 02:34:37,560
Adam Curry: should be as low.
Okay,

2716
02:34:37,560 --> 02:34:40,410
John C Dvorak: I tell you it's
just low. Maybe the material was

2717
02:34:40,410 --> 02:34:41,220
no good today.

2718
02:34:41,370 --> 02:34:43,980
Adam Curry: The material was
dynamite. We did nothing but

2719
02:34:43,980 --> 02:34:48,690
laugh. I mean, if we're not
laughing then we didn't do our

2720
02:34:48,690 --> 02:34:52,290
job. Oh no, I think and you know
what, these are the true trolls.

2721
02:34:52,320 --> 02:34:57,780
These are the the the hard core
core trolls or hardcore trolls.

2722
02:34:58,080 --> 02:35:01,140
And you can become one of those
trolls On Thursdays and Sundays,

2723
02:35:01,140 --> 02:35:03,960
we'll do the show live, you can
do it at work, go to troll

2724
02:35:03,960 --> 02:35:06,690
room.io, you can just put it on
your web browser, you can, you

2725
02:35:06,690 --> 02:35:10,080
know, if someone comes along
footnote, Alt Tab, Alt Tab to

2726
02:35:10,080 --> 02:35:12,990
the back, you bring up that
spreadsheet, then pretend like

2727
02:35:12,990 --> 02:35:15,690
you're doing something. But
meanwhile, the troll room and

2728
02:35:15,690 --> 02:35:18,030
it's great because you can just
say whatever you want, you can

2729
02:35:18,030 --> 02:35:23,520
grab a and you know, it's cool.
And there's no accountability

2730
02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:25,680
because it scrolls off. It's
ephemeral. It should be

2731
02:35:25,680 --> 02:35:28,290
John C Dvorak: lowered next
Sunday, because that is actually

2732
02:35:28,290 --> 02:35:32,250
New Year's Day Eve. Where's he?
We're starting Years Eve, where

2733
02:35:32,250 --> 02:35:33,420
people are partying?

2734
02:35:33,600 --> 02:35:36,570
Adam Curry: Yes, well, there
will be we have partying trolls.

2735
02:35:37,020 --> 02:35:40,530
There's some trolls who like to
party. Yeah, it'd be good. I'm

2736
02:35:40,530 --> 02:35:43,170
looking forward. We don't mind
working on these days. Because

2737
02:35:43,200 --> 02:35:47,040
no, we actually enjoy it. Yeah,
we do. I don't know why. But for

2738
02:35:47,040 --> 02:35:51,450
some reason, we enjoy it. Troll
room.io is where you can find us

2739
02:35:51,450 --> 02:35:54,840
live, you can also get one of
those. All the podcast apps now

2740
02:35:54,840 --> 02:35:57,450
have new versions, they
everybody worked really hard. So

2741
02:35:57,450 --> 02:36:01,530
podcast, apps.com, get a modern
one. It'll alert you when we go

2742
02:36:01,530 --> 02:36:04,290
live with the show. It's the
same app where you get the show

2743
02:36:04,800 --> 02:36:07,590
when we publish it. So and you
can also especially those of you

2744
02:36:07,680 --> 02:36:12,840
who may, some of you, apparently
about 4% of the podcast app

2745
02:36:12,840 --> 02:36:17,220
market was Google podcasts.
They're closing down, people

2746
02:36:17,220 --> 02:36:21,150
getting their emails now. And
they say, Well, you can export

2747
02:36:21,150 --> 02:36:27,720
your subscriptions to to YouTube
Music app tells you that you can

2748
02:36:27,780 --> 02:36:31,770
export your OPML file, that's
what they call OPML. And you can

2749
02:36:31,770 --> 02:36:34,470
export it right into any of the
new podcast apps, the modern

2750
02:36:34,470 --> 02:36:38,820
ones. Yep. So do that podcast.
apps.com value for value is how

2751
02:36:38,820 --> 02:36:43,290
we have survived through the
podcast winter. We've been doing

2752
02:36:43,290 --> 02:36:47,100
it for 16 years. But there's a
big podcast winter coming up

2753
02:36:47,100 --> 02:36:51,540
right now, as advertisers just
run away. Because, you know,

2754
02:36:51,540 --> 02:36:54,930
Spotify failed and all that and
a whole bunch of reasons for it.

2755
02:36:55,290 --> 02:36:58,080
But we knew that we would
weather the storm if people

2756
02:36:58,080 --> 02:37:01,830
actually enjoy the outstanding
product that we make. And you

2757
02:37:01,830 --> 02:37:04,200
keep telling us that it is an
outstanding product. So we're

2758
02:37:04,200 --> 02:37:08,550
still here. When that ends, the
show ends it's that simple. What

2759
02:37:08,550 --> 02:37:10,800
was that story you had about
that meat shop?

2760
02:37:12,600 --> 02:37:17,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know,
so here's the thing. So I'm, I

2761
02:37:17,700 --> 02:37:22,650
like game. And there was, you
know, reindeer meat is

2762
02:37:22,650 --> 02:37:24,840
delicious. So you're gonna get
that here in the United States,

2763
02:37:24,840 --> 02:37:29,730
but it's delicious elk and get
deer. You can get moose, by the

2764
02:37:29,730 --> 02:37:33,360
way, killer moose. And so
there's this game shop that was

2765
02:37:33,360 --> 02:37:38,100
in a peninsula and it was known
to have all these these these

2766
02:37:38,100 --> 02:37:46,290
crazy meats, including quail and
different duck. And I one year I

2767
02:37:46,290 --> 02:37:48,840
was going to go down there and
get some meat for a special

2768
02:37:48,840 --> 02:37:54,150
event and the place it closed
down completely was gone. And it

2769
02:37:54,150 --> 02:37:58,620
left me feeling that well maybe
myself and others who are like

2770
02:37:58,650 --> 02:38:03,630
eating elk and moose if we had
supported the place just for

2771
02:38:03,660 --> 02:38:07,830
maybe once in a while instead of
waiting five years to go down

2772
02:38:07,830 --> 02:38:11,370
there to place would still be in
business and be doing a good

2773
02:38:11,370 --> 02:38:14,040
business and I could now go down
there and get what I want to

2774
02:38:14,100 --> 02:38:17,430
know gone for good. That's
right. Never come never came

2775
02:38:17,430 --> 02:38:21,690
back and you're still sad about
or still worked about him. So

2776
02:38:21,720 --> 02:38:23,700
don't let that happen to you
people. This is what happened to

2777
02:38:23,700 --> 02:38:27,960
cranky geeks by the way, same
thing. A real it's never coming

2778
02:38:27,960 --> 02:38:28,380
back.

2779
02:38:28,740 --> 02:38:31,380
Adam Curry: And that's because
people didn't support you.

2780
02:38:33,450 --> 02:38:36,030
John C Dvorak: We couldn't do
well as long as it fell apart.

2781
02:38:37,980 --> 02:38:40,230
The same thing because people
watching come back. That's the

2782
02:38:40,230 --> 02:38:43,920
point. People weren't buying it
goes away. Did never comes back.

2783
02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:46,530
I mean, this is where it reminds
us Are you and I have been

2784
02:38:46,530 --> 02:38:50,730
talking about some of these
return to TV bullcrap shows like

2785
02:38:50,760 --> 02:38:55,560
oh, like what was the one rager
Fraser Fraser no good. It's just

2786
02:38:55,560 --> 02:38:59,670
terrible. They lost. They lost.
The plot is not funny. It's not

2787
02:38:59,670 --> 02:39:03,540
the same writers. It's no good.
And my favorite one and I have

2788
02:39:03,540 --> 02:39:06,720
to apologize to you for this
one. Because you made the

2789
02:39:06,720 --> 02:39:09,000
comment just out of the blue.
I'm talking about the Jon

2790
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:13,590
Stewart show. Jon Stewart had a
show on Apple or something and

2791
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:16,950
you said he was fired? Yes. I
said no. He wasn't fired. He

2792
02:39:16,950 --> 02:39:19,590
agreed to quit. I made it. Yeah,
he was making it up. I didn't

2793
02:39:19,590 --> 02:39:22,200
know until I watched the show.

2794
02:39:22,350 --> 02:39:25,530
Adam Curry: And then you're like
No wonder he was fired. It

2795
02:39:25,530 --> 02:39:28,680
John C Dvorak: was terrible. He
wasn't funny. He was like, you

2796
02:39:28,680 --> 02:39:31,800
know knee jerk liberal stuff.
That was no good. He is butting

2797
02:39:31,800 --> 02:39:34,290
in on things. He shouldn't be
having anything to do with

2798
02:39:34,590 --> 02:39:37,860
didn't have the same writers
obviously. No. And it was no

2799
02:39:37,860 --> 02:39:41,550
good. And they Yeah, and he got
booted off but I think he was

2800
02:39:41,550 --> 02:39:43,440
fired. Yes,

2801
02:39:43,440 --> 02:39:47,310
Adam Curry: he was fired. He was
fired. out you're fired. You're

2802
02:39:47,310 --> 02:39:48,840
done. You're toast goodbye.

2803
02:39:49,290 --> 02:39:51,840
John C Dvorak: But as Kelsey
Grammer thing is no good is no

2804
02:39:51,840 --> 02:39:54,990
good. What is good they did the
same thing by the way with the

2805
02:39:54,990 --> 02:39:59,820
with the show. That was the name
of this show. That guy was the

2806
02:39:59,820 --> 02:40:04,380
guy On the slinger Marshall.
It's not called vengeance. It's

2807
02:40:04,380 --> 02:40:05,970
Adam Curry: called Clouds
MacLeod.

2808
02:40:06,420 --> 02:40:10,410
John C Dvorak: No, no, God
wasn't McLeod. What cloud was

2809
02:40:10,410 --> 02:40:12,570
the show? Yes. When I'm talking
about,

2810
02:40:13,380 --> 02:40:14,490
Adam Curry: I don't know what
you're talking about.

2811
02:40:16,080 --> 02:40:18,420
John C Dvorak: Timothy Olyphant
was the main character. Somebody

2812
02:40:18,420 --> 02:40:20,730
might remember what it is gonna
try to bring

2813
02:40:20,730 --> 02:40:22,260
Adam Curry: that back Gunsmoke.

2814
02:40:24,690 --> 02:40:26,940
John C Dvorak: They should try
to bring Gunsmoke back I bet you

2815
02:40:26,940 --> 02:40:28,290
that really failed they

2816
02:40:28,590 --> 02:40:31,140
Adam Curry: bring back Hogan's
Heroes. That will be funny.

2817
02:40:31,170 --> 02:40:36,300
Hogan said you needed people
saying crane, justified just

2818
02:40:36,300 --> 02:40:38,640
John C Dvorak: justified. Yes,
exactly. Justify, they brought

2819
02:40:38,640 --> 02:40:42,450
it back. So here's the show.
This premise was a guy who was

2820
02:40:42,690 --> 02:40:45,180
he was a martial, but he was
also the premise was he was a

2821
02:40:45,180 --> 02:40:49,230
quick draw artist. So he would
get some beef with people and he

2822
02:40:49,230 --> 02:40:52,350
would just gun him down. So he
was killing people in the first

2823
02:40:52,350 --> 02:40:56,040
year, especially everybody,
somebody was getting going down

2824
02:40:56,400 --> 02:41:00,330
every show. So the second they
bring it back after a few years

2825
02:41:00,330 --> 02:41:03,000
of high they left it and then
they brought it back. And they

2826
02:41:03,000 --> 02:41:06,990
left a gunslinger part out,
which was the only part that was

2827
02:41:07,050 --> 02:41:08,970
interesting. Oh, dumb is that

2828
02:41:10,200 --> 02:41:12,270
Adam Curry: that's right. When
we're gone. There's that's it?

2829
02:41:12,330 --> 02:41:14,910
I'd be no agenda. It can never
be no agenda again.

2830
02:41:15,990 --> 02:41:18,750
John C Dvorak: And if there
isn't, it'll be like a dud. No,

2831
02:41:18,750 --> 02:41:20,970
Adam Curry: it won't. It'll be
Adam and Mo what he's talking

2832
02:41:20,970 --> 02:41:26,280
about now will both be a dud
Yes. What I said what was not a

2833
02:41:26,280 --> 02:41:30,480
dud was the artwork. Although I
did have some comments on it.

2834
02:41:30,480 --> 02:41:33,690
You didn't like it at all the
artwork which came from Dame

2835
02:41:33,690 --> 02:41:37,380
Kenny Ben for episode 1618. Of
course, we titled that fat

2836
02:41:37,380 --> 02:41:42,120
leonard, how could we not? And
well, even though the art

2837
02:41:42,120 --> 02:41:45,420
Jenner's generator is back up,
and thank you so much for Polka

2838
02:41:45,420 --> 02:41:48,900
tour for resurrecting it for
bringing it back from the dead.

2839
02:41:49,350 --> 02:41:53,340
The artwork? For some reason,
John, you wanted to go for a

2840
02:41:53,340 --> 02:41:56,670
traditional Christmas thing? I'm
like, No, let's do that on

2841
02:41:56,670 --> 02:42:01,860
Christmas. I wanted the curry
Devorah swear jars, which I

2842
02:42:01,860 --> 02:42:05,340
thought was great. You were
like, Man, this has no dynamics

2843
02:42:05,340 --> 02:42:09,480
if the and then you'd like I
want the Christmas the Christmas

2844
02:42:09,480 --> 02:42:14,460
stockings hung by the fire. And
like this boring much episode.

2845
02:42:14,460 --> 02:42:18,450
There were two choices from Dame
Kenny Ben. One was just your

2846
02:42:18,450 --> 02:42:22,560
stocking my stocking. And then
she had a second one with M five

2847
02:42:22,560 --> 02:42:27,150
M. When under the day you call
in a bag of coal but then mine

2848
02:42:27,390 --> 02:42:30,420
my stockings in the fire? Yeah,

2849
02:42:30,420 --> 02:42:33,000
John C Dvorak: this is your
complaint you said yeah. And

2850
02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:36,240
usually here's the dilemma. Did
you give a Louis inside baseball

2851
02:42:36,240 --> 02:42:40,320
here you also said okay, we'll
take this one but I'm gonna

2852
02:42:40,320 --> 02:42:42,360
bitch about it on the next show

2853
02:42:42,390 --> 02:42:45,060
Adam Curry: because my stalking
was in the fire years his

2854
02:42:45,060 --> 02:42:48,750
stalking was in the fire. I
don't like it in the fire. The

2855
02:42:48,780 --> 02:42:53,520
like, I didn't delete a drawing.
We both kind of like Darren

2856
02:42:53,520 --> 02:43:01,980
O'Neill's press stooges but we
agreed that the press bad

2857
02:43:01,980 --> 02:43:05,490
badgers in their hat band was
too small and people might not

2858
02:43:05,490 --> 02:43:09,180
get it although the goofy look
was pretty good for AI. It's aI

2859
02:43:09,180 --> 02:43:09,840
obvious Yeah,

2860
02:43:09,870 --> 02:43:12,030
John C Dvorak: it was a it was
aI everyone's got aI

2861
02:43:13,290 --> 02:43:16,950
Adam Curry: you even tried to
pawn off that no weed no phone

2862
02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:20,430
thing that was no good for a man
that was also Dan Kennedy. Ben

2863
02:43:20,430 --> 02:43:24,480
you try it you'd like Oh, that's
great. No, it's not. Was not did

2864
02:43:24,480 --> 02:43:29,010
not then you did you tried it?
And then what else was there?

2865
02:43:29,640 --> 02:43:33,660
There was kind of it. There
really wasn't. Wasn't much. It

2866
02:43:33,660 --> 02:43:37,440
looks like people understand for
this show. People have caught on

2867
02:43:37,440 --> 02:43:40,560
there's a lot of traditional
Christmas artwork. So I'm

2868
02:43:40,560 --> 02:43:43,440
excited to look at that when
we're done. But thank you damn

2869
02:43:43,440 --> 02:43:46,230
candy, man. We really appreciate
your time. Two in a row for her.

2870
02:43:46,230 --> 02:43:47,490
That is Yes, that's right.

2871
02:43:48,000 --> 02:43:50,580
John C Dvorak: So she gets it
again today and the hat trick.

2872
02:43:51,090 --> 02:43:51,630
She gets

2873
02:43:51,630 --> 02:43:54,210
Adam Curry: it. That's right. So
it's pretty rare on petitioners

2874
02:43:54,210 --> 02:43:56,760
on That's right. And she'll get
on the front page of The Art

2875
02:43:56,760 --> 02:43:58,950
Generator, no agenda, art
generator.com You can play

2876
02:43:58,950 --> 02:44:02,640
along. You could actually
participate. You can upload your

2877
02:44:02,640 --> 02:44:05,550
own artwork, you know, get your
whole artist profiles all

2878
02:44:05,550 --> 02:44:09,060
swanky. If you when you get on
the front page as leader boards.

2879
02:44:09,060 --> 02:44:11,430
There's all kinds of cool
things. It's Republica tourism.

2880
02:44:11,580 --> 02:44:15,300
And that's another example of
time, talent or treasure, time

2881
02:44:15,300 --> 02:44:17,970
and talent a lot of time and
talent and probably put some

2882
02:44:17,970 --> 02:44:20,010
treasure in there too. Just to
make this thing work. We

2883
02:44:20,010 --> 02:44:24,120
appreciate it. Same with all the
producers who help us here it is

2884
02:44:24,120 --> 02:44:28,050
value for value. We provide the
value upfront there's no no

2885
02:44:28,170 --> 02:44:32,880
paywalls no Patreon levels, you
know, no tricks, no gimmicks, no

2886
02:44:32,880 --> 02:44:36,330
advertising, no creepy corporate
money. We just say hey, if you

2887
02:44:36,330 --> 02:44:38,550
if you got any value out of the
show, send it back to us. Some

2888
02:44:38,550 --> 02:44:41,490
people don't do it for years
then they do. Some people do a

2889
02:44:41,490 --> 02:44:44,520
little bit every single month
for years and years and years

2890
02:44:44,520 --> 02:44:47,850
and all sudden they're night or
day. Doesn't matter. But we

2891
02:44:47,850 --> 02:44:50,820
can't determine the value that
you receive. We can't tell

2892
02:44:50,850 --> 02:44:55,680
determine what value you place
on that. But we do have a number

2893
02:44:55,680 --> 02:44:58,530
of people who have given us the
treasure of the time, talent and

2894
02:44:58,530 --> 02:45:01,830
treasure and we want to thank
them right now starting off with

2895
02:45:01,830 --> 02:45:04,920
and there he is. The man who
always saves the day at the end

2896
02:45:04,920 --> 02:45:10,290
of the month, sir animus of
Dogpatch on lower Slobo via he

2897
02:45:10,290 --> 02:45:13,500
sends his he's always sends it
to us and cash. It always

2898
02:45:13,500 --> 02:45:16,680
includes a $2. Bill. I'm just
going to guess that was one at

2899
02:45:16,680 --> 02:45:25,830
least one $2 bill today or maybe
six. No one $4,000 $4,012 Wow,

2900
02:45:25,860 --> 02:45:28,620
this is massive, massive thank

2901
02:45:28,800 --> 02:45:30,570
John C Dvorak: you is just a
base one of his biggest

2902
02:45:30,570 --> 02:45:31,770
donations for this

2903
02:45:31,770 --> 02:45:34,500
Adam Curry: end of year. Thank
you so much, and he always has a

2904
02:45:34,500 --> 02:45:42,120
typewritten note. When today's
note, interestingly, has a has a

2905
02:45:42,150 --> 02:45:49,170
has a footnote, I noticed he has
a little one. And there's a

2906
02:45:49,170 --> 02:45:53,340
footnote Do you see that? I'm
gonna go open it now he has a

2907
02:45:53,340 --> 02:45:56,580
footprint. It doesn't I'm trying
to see where the number one Oh,

2908
02:45:56,580 --> 02:45:59,190
okay. The I when I hit the
footnote, I will read the

2909
02:45:59,190 --> 02:46:03,060
footnote from synonymous with
Dogpatch and lo Shlomo via thank

2910
02:46:03,060 --> 02:46:05,760
you to all producers that always
make this such an insightful

2911
02:46:05,760 --> 02:46:09,120
source of information.
deconstruction of the three

2912
02:46:09,120 --> 02:46:13,080
university presidents testimony
was enlightening and paralleled

2913
02:46:13,110 --> 02:46:17,550
a discussion with another
university president Serrano's

2914
02:46:17,550 --> 02:46:21,930
gets around. She shared the view
that the presidents were

2915
02:46:21,960 --> 02:46:26,880
overlawyered, which is what I
said, and had a 47 word Title

2916
02:46:26,880 --> 02:46:30,360
Nine mindset that no Congress
person would understand or

2917
02:46:30,360 --> 02:46:36,570
appreciate. It's what you said.
So a fourth university president

2918
02:46:36,570 --> 02:46:41,370
who was smart enough not to get
invited, confirmed that we were

2919
02:46:41,370 --> 02:46:44,760
spot on Happy Hanukkah and Merry
Christmas to the many producers.

2920
02:46:44,910 --> 02:46:50,010
Thank you for your faith. Oh,
wait. The footnote. She shared

2921
02:46:50,010 --> 02:46:53,250
the view that the presidents
were overloaded and had a 47

2922
02:46:53,280 --> 02:46:57,990
word Title Nine mindset. Now the
word I have here, the footnote,

2923
02:46:57,990 --> 02:47:01,260
no person, the United States
shall on the basis of sex, be

2924
02:47:01,260 --> 02:47:06,030
educated. Be six, be excluded
from participation in you got

2925
02:47:06,030 --> 02:47:09,270
it? Right. I'd got it right. Oh,
I've read it again. No person in

2926
02:47:09,270 --> 02:47:12,780
the United States shall on the
basis of sex be excluded from

2927
02:47:12,780 --> 02:47:17,730
participation in be denied the
benefits of or be subjected to

2928
02:47:17,850 --> 02:47:21,930
discrimination under any
education program or activity

2929
02:47:22,050 --> 02:47:26,310
receiving federal Finance,
Financial Assistance? There you

2930
02:47:26,310 --> 02:47:31,680
go. They can't do it. Otherwise,
money goes away. Is that the

2931
02:47:31,680 --> 02:47:32,640
basic premise here?

2932
02:47:34,920 --> 02:47:37,410
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the premise
is that they would have been

2933
02:47:37,410 --> 02:47:42,330
violating Title Nine by their
interpretation at the moment.

2934
02:47:42,420 --> 02:47:44,760
And that's what the lawyers I
think, convinced him of when in

2935
02:47:44,760 --> 02:47:47,670
fact, they could have said any
number of things. They're,

2936
02:47:48,030 --> 02:47:52,620
they're too rigid. These women
were not smart, trained. They're

2937
02:47:52,620 --> 02:47:54,780
not well, they're probably
weren't smart, but they weren't

2938
02:47:54,780 --> 02:48:01,500
trained in obfuscation and how
to talk to agencies properly and

2939
02:48:01,500 --> 02:48:04,770
how to beat around the bush
proper way. Happy

2940
02:48:04,770 --> 02:48:06,660
Adam Curry: Hanukkah, Merry
Christmas to the many producers

2941
02:48:06,660 --> 02:48:10,020
thank you for your faith. I hope
all have a blessed holiday

2942
02:48:10,020 --> 02:48:13,560
season. Happy Hanukkah. Merry
Christmas, Allah Akbar. No

2943
02:48:13,560 --> 02:48:17,610
jingles no karma. And we thank
you profusely sir animus of

2944
02:48:17,610 --> 02:48:19,260
Dogpatch and Lois LeBeau via

2945
02:48:20,880 --> 02:48:27,930
John C Dvorak: the man onward
with an anonymous donation. On

2946
02:48:27,930 --> 02:48:31,680
I'm sorry, Mike and Betty, you
get the anonymous one. Mike and

2947
02:48:31,680 --> 02:48:36,870
Betty Kenny, Becky and Becky
Becky. But I say you said Benny

2948
02:48:37,740 --> 02:48:43,980
Benny Yeah. Mike and and baby
Benny. Mike and Becky kitty in

2949
02:48:44,190 --> 02:48:49,110
Katy Texas. Merry Christmas. And
she they two of them came in

2950
02:48:49,110 --> 02:48:52,950
with 647 71 Merry Christmas to
all get more nation this

2951
02:48:52,950 --> 02:48:58,890
donation 648 71 allows both my
Darling Bride Becky and myself

2952
02:48:58,890 --> 02:49:03,330
to Baronet and Baronet tests we
met for the first time in 71.

2953
02:49:03,330 --> 02:49:06,570
Oddly enough on Christmas Eve
today's the 52nd anniversary of

2954
02:49:06,570 --> 02:49:08,820
that world changing Whoa.

2955
02:49:08,820 --> 02:49:12,870
Adam Curry: 52 years together
and they never had a fight.

2956
02:49:13,110 --> 02:49:13,620
Never.

2957
02:49:15,450 --> 02:49:17,580
John C Dvorak: Today's the 52nd
anniversary of that world

2958
02:49:17,580 --> 02:49:24,480
changing meeting, I would have
put event plus six for 871 is a

2959
02:49:24,480 --> 02:49:29,250
prime number. But I thought that
would be cool. For this special

2960
02:49:29,250 --> 02:49:34,560
day, Mike Kinney night of the
great Katy Prairie and Becky

2961
02:49:34,890 --> 02:49:38,100
game of the great Katy Prairie.
Yes, we

2962
02:49:38,100 --> 02:49:39,960
Adam Curry: should be great. We
will be upgrading you

2963
02:49:39,960 --> 02:49:43,440
momentarily. Thank you so much
for your courage. Anonymous is

2964
02:49:43,440 --> 02:49:47,550
in Redford, North Carolina. $500
And just as anonymous please no

2965
02:49:47,550 --> 02:49:50,640
jingles. No. No jingles no
karma. Not even a double up. You

2966
02:49:50,640 --> 02:49:51,900
got it. Thank you.

2967
02:49:53,130 --> 02:49:57,540
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Sir Chris
in Carmel by the sea in

2968
02:49:57,690 --> 02:50:02,760
California. A which used to be
the mayor used to be a Clint

2969
02:50:02,760 --> 02:50:08,970
Eastwood switcheroo in Japan out
John anatomy it and very merry

2970
02:50:08,970 --> 02:50:11,250
Christmas you and yours thanks
as always for the excellent

2971
02:50:11,250 --> 02:50:13,740
media deconstruction over the
past year here's to a happy,

2972
02:50:13,890 --> 02:50:17,880
healthy and prosperous new year.
For the entire no agenda family

2973
02:50:17,880 --> 02:50:21,240
please credit this executive
producer ship for the love of my

2974
02:50:21,240 --> 02:50:26,580
life. And soul mate Dame Kristen
Carmel by the sea she's

2975
02:50:26,580 --> 02:50:32,460
celebrating her 29th birthday
today. Happy Birthday bird thank

2976
02:50:32,460 --> 02:50:36,030
you for your courage cheers
circus carnival

2977
02:50:36,030 --> 02:50:38,280
Adam Curry: by the sea and she's
on the list and the switcheroo

2978
02:50:38,280 --> 02:50:42,510
has been made John Greer is in
enterprise Alabama 333 33 Our

2979
02:50:42,510 --> 02:50:45,240
favorite donation amount thanks
for your hard work keep it up

2980
02:50:45,240 --> 02:50:48,900
I'd love some jobs karma for the
new year because jobs karma

2981
02:50:48,900 --> 02:50:50,130
works jobs

2982
02:50:50,280 --> 02:50:57,120
Unknown: jobs jobs and jobs
Let's vote for jobs karma

2983
02:50:59,010 --> 02:51:04,890
John C Dvorak: William mount nee
in Mount Holly New Jersey 33333

2984
02:51:04,890 --> 02:51:07,740
No Note that we can find nothing
else so that means he gets a

2985
02:51:07,740 --> 02:51:08,880
double up karma like it or

2986
02:51:08,880 --> 02:51:12,600
Adam Curry: not yes and he's his
name is actually bill and he did

2987
02:51:12,600 --> 02:51:15,360
one of the end of show mixes for
today's show so we appreciate

2988
02:51:15,360 --> 02:51:15,810
that bill.

2989
02:51:15,840 --> 02:51:19,410
Unknown: He's got karma

2990
02:51:24,810 --> 02:51:29,190
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry.
Anonymous in valid vo Yes.

2991
02:51:29,190 --> 02:51:32,520
Sorry. valatie Velocity balance
at noon New York. I've never

2992
02:51:32,520 --> 02:51:37,110
heard of that. Either. 333 33
Merry Christmas. This donation

2993
02:51:37,110 --> 02:51:40,560
is long overdue and done in
haste. Please keep me anonymous

2994
02:51:40,560 --> 02:51:42,810
no jingles or Karma done you got
it. Thank you.

2995
02:51:43,830 --> 02:51:47,610
John C Dvorak: USA here comes
from Rancho Santa Margarita

2996
02:51:47,610 --> 02:51:54,990
California. U S A toy sales
trainer $33.33 He got no note

2997
02:51:55,020 --> 02:51:57,750
whatsoever so let's give them a
double up karma that'll do it.

2998
02:51:58,350 --> 02:52:01,890
Unknown: You've got karma

2999
02:52:03,750 --> 02:52:09,090
Adam Curry: Eric mcaro Ed's is
in Socorro, New Mexico 333 33

3000
02:52:09,090 --> 02:52:12,060
Merry Christmas to you and your
To Do you to and your family.

3001
02:52:12,060 --> 02:52:15,390
Thank you. Happy holiday to the
rest of no agenda family. I need

3002
02:52:15,390 --> 02:52:19,890
to remember to check but I might
be a baron or night by now.

3003
02:52:20,250 --> 02:52:23,430
Well, you should check on that.
Let's go check. Let us know.

3004
02:52:24,300 --> 02:52:24,870
Upcoming

3005
02:52:24,870 --> 02:52:29,430
John C Dvorak: as Surrey Yogi in
West, Richland, Washington.

3006
02:52:30,270 --> 02:52:34,170
Three Three ITM genser. Yo, yo,
here's a switcheroo to be

3007
02:52:34,170 --> 02:52:37,770
credited to my better half Dame
Janice of the bombing range.

3008
02:52:38,670 --> 02:52:42,660
Dame Janet sets the big 65 On
December 26. So please add her

3009
02:52:42,660 --> 02:52:45,630
to the birthday list. We've been
tripping around the sentence for

3010
02:52:45,630 --> 02:52:48,630
some 45 years now. It's still
having a good time doing it.

3011
02:52:49,590 --> 02:52:52,650
Happy birthday, sweetie. Please
give her a good karma and a

3012
02:52:52,650 --> 02:52:56,190
little girl yay. Merry Christmas
and Happy New Year to all of you

3013
02:52:56,190 --> 02:53:00,300
get bow nation. Sir Yogi the
night of the Carnival midway.

3014
02:53:02,970 --> 02:53:05,910
Unknown: You've got karma

3015
02:53:07,650 --> 02:53:09,240
John C Dvorak: dog bark was?
Yeah,

3016
02:53:09,270 --> 02:53:13,890
Adam Curry: yeah. Tina is back
with the stepdaughter and her

3017
02:53:13,890 --> 02:53:14,820
fiance. Yeah,

3018
02:53:14,820 --> 02:53:17,700
John C Dvorak: like the dog has
an echo in that room. Yeah, it's

3019
02:53:17,700 --> 02:53:18,600
just perfect

3020
02:53:18,630 --> 02:53:20,640
Adam Curry: as I know. Well,
you're gonna have to enjoy it.

3021
02:53:21,030 --> 02:53:25,350
John from immediate casualty
casualty care. It is John from

3022
02:53:25,350 --> 02:53:32,070
immediate casualty cares in
Columbus, Ohio. 333 Season's

3023
02:53:32,070 --> 02:53:34,740
Greetings, John and Adam I
donate today because I've been

3024
02:53:34,740 --> 02:53:38,550
seeing the magic number 33
Literally everywhere. And that's

3025
02:53:38,550 --> 02:53:43,320
the sign to do do the voodoo and
donate. Also, please mention my

3026
02:53:43,320 --> 02:53:46,290
website immediate casualty
care.com. So I can write this

3027
02:53:46,290 --> 02:53:49,320
off as an advertising expense
because I'm not giving any more

3028
02:53:49,320 --> 02:53:52,320
of my rapidly inflating Federal
Reserve notes to the big guy.

3029
02:53:52,560 --> 02:53:55,980
Then I have to remember to leave
out cricket cookies for Santa

3030
02:53:56,010 --> 02:53:59,700
Santa Klaus Schwab Have a merry
fourth turning and a Happy New

3031
02:53:59,700 --> 02:54:04,980
World Order. Peace out John from
immediate casualty care. Good

3032
02:54:04,980 --> 02:54:06,030
note, funny.

3033
02:54:06,120 --> 02:54:10,710
John C Dvorak: Anna Farley in
Cleveland, Ohio 333 and Hannah

3034
02:54:10,710 --> 02:54:14,220
has a switcheroo I'm getting all
Switcheroos except the next one.

3035
02:54:14,850 --> 02:54:20,190
On behalf of a switcheroo on
behalf of Benjamin dumb zosky

3036
02:54:20,550 --> 02:54:25,560
free to be feel free to butcher
that name. Your Christian your

3037
02:54:25,560 --> 02:54:27,810
Christian Christian your
Christmas I'm butchering

3038
02:54:27,810 --> 02:54:31,710
everything else your your
Christmas dream of producing the

3039
02:54:31,710 --> 02:54:35,730
post cast with the most beeps
boops and jingle jangles has

3040
02:54:35,730 --> 02:54:38,760
come true. Thanks John and Adam.

3041
02:54:40,230 --> 02:54:42,600
Adam Curry: J I'd like to post
cast I think that's a good one.

3042
02:54:43,230 --> 02:54:49,110
Andrew scollard is in Marietta,
California 333 Switcheroo John

3043
02:54:49,110 --> 02:54:52,170
Adam this is a long awaited make
good for my father Jesse. I

3044
02:54:52,170 --> 02:54:55,470
wanted to make him an executive
producer of 1512 but didn't ask

3045
02:54:55,470 --> 02:54:59,070
for the switcheroo better over
100 episodes late than never

3046
02:54:59,100 --> 02:55:06,000
love you dad. Uh oh jingles kiss
my ring and beautiful young. You

3047
02:55:06,000 --> 02:55:09,780
may kiss my ring. Do you fall

3048
02:55:13,860 --> 02:55:18,390
John C Dvorak: classic Priscilla
Oh, Leary in Ramona, California,

3049
02:55:18,420 --> 02:55:23,040
Ramona 300 Merry Christmas to
you and your family and God

3050
02:55:23,040 --> 02:55:26,880
bless all the new agenda
listeners. Kevin and Priscilla

3051
02:55:26,880 --> 02:55:29,130
O'Leary. Bowman,

3052
02:55:29,610 --> 02:55:33,990
Adam Curry: Bowman McMahon, San
Antonio, Texas San Antonio first

3053
02:55:33,990 --> 02:55:37,350
Associate Executive Producer for
today 270 Thanks and Merry

3054
02:55:37,350 --> 02:55:39,300
Christmas. Thank you America
Christmas to you.

3055
02:55:39,840 --> 02:55:42,900
John C Dvorak: Catherine
Boudreau in Carlisle,

3056
02:55:42,900 --> 02:55:47,970
Massachusetts 250 ITM John and
Adam wishing you and the entire

3057
02:55:47,970 --> 02:55:51,000
no agenda family a blessing
holiday. We love listening to

3058
02:55:51,000 --> 02:55:56,010
you both. Thank you for the
twice weekly dose of clarity and

3059
02:55:56,010 --> 02:56:00,990
humor. Merry Merry Christmas
from Catherine Boudreau in

3060
02:56:00,990 --> 02:56:01,830
Carlisle.

3061
02:56:01,890 --> 02:56:06,240
Adam Curry: Dillon is in
Chilliwack Of course he is. in

3062
02:56:06,240 --> 02:56:11,160
Chilliwack, British Columbia
Canada Navia to 4078 My car was

3063
02:56:11,160 --> 02:56:14,130
totaled in an accident a tire
flew through the middle of the

3064
02:56:14,130 --> 02:56:18,390
highway and landed on my hood.
To my surprise I received a good

3065
02:56:18,390 --> 02:56:21,870
offer from insurance but that
didn't stop me from asking them

3066
02:56:21,870 --> 02:56:25,350
for more well wouldn't you know
they sent me a check for an

3067
02:56:25,350 --> 02:56:31,650
extra 333 dot 40 So I've oh so
he should be he should be bumped

3068
02:56:31,650 --> 02:56:33,990
up it should be bumped up yes
you will be an executive

3069
02:56:33,990 --> 02:56:39,120
producer. So so he's sending us
the bonus check for 333 40

3070
02:56:39,540 --> 02:56:43,110
John C Dvorak: Yeah he asked for
Please ask any shall receive

3071
02:56:43,410 --> 02:56:43,620
that's

3072
02:56:43,620 --> 02:56:46,650
Adam Curry: right and knock and
it will be open. So I for this

3073
02:56:46,650 --> 02:56:49,470
bonus on to you please add me to
the birthday list it was on

3074
02:56:49,470 --> 02:56:52,890
December 20 jingles realize it
on the magic number and

3075
02:56:52,890 --> 02:56:55,440
relationship karma please Merry
Christmas no agenda

3076
02:56:56,340 --> 02:57:06,450
Unknown: in the standby 333 33
or otherwise are out. Dirty.

3077
02:57:07,650 --> 02:57:12,480
Dozen magic. Magic.

3078
02:57:14,940 --> 02:57:16,650
You've got karma.

3079
02:57:18,630 --> 02:57:20,790
John C Dvorak: And another
switcheroo coming up from Sir

3080
02:57:20,790 --> 02:57:27,420
drywall in Petrolia, Ontario,
Canada on September 13. I did an

3081
02:57:27,420 --> 02:57:30,540
instant eye donation and
commented that if you mentioned

3082
02:57:30,630 --> 02:57:35,640
nows and a US drywall of
petroleum Ontario this in a US

3083
02:57:35,640 --> 02:57:40,560
drywall. I could write it off as
marketing. Well, it worked. I

3084
02:57:40,560 --> 02:57:43,710
got a great house the drywall
out of the deal. So here's my

3085
02:57:43,710 --> 02:57:48,150
follow up donation. And he wants
to give a switcheroo to Jamie

3086
02:57:48,150 --> 02:57:53,610
Forsythe, the contractor who
hired me thanks for WORKING

3087
02:57:53,610 --> 02:57:58,230
CHRISTMAS EVE no jingles no
Carmen 225610 Nice.

3088
02:57:58,230 --> 02:58:01,830
Adam Curry: Then we have a note
from Sir pursuit of peace and

3089
02:58:01,830 --> 02:58:06,210
tranquility with a row of ducks
to 2222 and he actually asked us

3090
02:58:06,210 --> 02:58:09,240
to hold this in abeyance he sent
it on December 1 That's a very

3091
02:58:09,240 --> 02:58:13,170
risky thing to do. Very risky
very risky but you got lucky

3092
02:58:13,230 --> 02:58:16,680
this time. In the morning boys
please accept this shorter row

3093
02:58:16,680 --> 02:58:19,140
of ducks for the month of
December to keep myself current.

3094
02:58:19,140 --> 02:58:22,080
In addition, I would greatly
appreciate some jobs karma for

3095
02:58:22,080 --> 02:58:25,110
our youngest human resource and
for my keeper Please play the

3096
02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:30,390
birthday biscuit jingle for who?
To celebrate her 57th trip

3097
02:58:30,390 --> 02:58:33,510
around the sun they always give
me a biscuit on my birthday

3098
02:58:33,540 --> 02:58:36,240
appreciate in advance the karma
and the jingle keep it brief

3099
02:58:36,240 --> 02:58:39,360
sincerely pursuit of peace and
tranquility in the lens of the

3100
02:58:39,360 --> 02:58:42,660
red clay and the cherry trees
and He gives us His accounting

3101
02:58:42,660 --> 02:58:45,330
and thank you very much of
course we'd be more than happy

3102
02:58:45,510 --> 02:58:48,690
to hand out some jobs karma for
your spouse and human resources

3103
02:58:48,690 --> 02:58:49,380
jobs,

3104
02:58:49,530 --> 02:58:52,110
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs

3105
02:58:57,120 --> 02:59:00,690
John C Dvorak: he or she is de
mad stryd of Tokyo that's right

3106
02:59:01,020 --> 02:59:01,740
DeMasters

3107
02:59:01,740 --> 02:59:04,230
Adam Curry: actually Japan and
the all the disputed

3108
02:59:04,230 --> 02:59:07,320
John C Dvorak: I yeah I
mentioned at the end she said

3109
02:59:07,320 --> 02:59:13,080
she's a duchess, Duchess Dame
Astrid in Tokyo, Tokyo. Dear

3110
02:59:13,080 --> 02:59:15,720
John and Adam whenever I hear
you talking about exit strategy

3111
02:59:15,720 --> 02:59:20,310
my alarm bells go off and it's
time to donate. May this day

3112
02:59:20,310 --> 02:59:23,220
never come wishing you and your
lovely families a merry

3113
02:59:23,220 --> 02:59:26,340
christmas Dame Astrid, Duchess
of Japan and all the disputed

3114
02:59:26,340 --> 02:59:30,540
islands tu tu tu dot two two
road ducks Thank you name.

3115
02:59:31,380 --> 02:59:34,830
Adam Curry: De mastered? Yes.
Say hi to Sir Mark for us as

3116
02:59:34,830 --> 02:59:39,480
well. Dave The broke air
controller. Indianapolis Indiana

3117
02:59:39,570 --> 02:59:42,990
short road ducks 22 dot 22
donation note from Dave The

3118
02:59:42,990 --> 02:59:47,580
broke air traffic controller.
And I just thought I'd mentioned

3119
02:59:47,580 --> 02:59:50,340
the last show but he sent me in
the mail he I think I talked

3120
02:59:50,340 --> 02:59:53,700
about this. He sent me a huge
packet of stuff he should not

3121
02:59:53,700 --> 02:59:54,270
have sent me.

3122
02:59:55,440 --> 02:59:58,230
John C Dvorak: Yes, you
mentioned this okay about lasers

3123
02:59:58,230 --> 03:00:01,230
Adam Curry: from C 130s and
stuff But we appreciate your

3124
03:00:01,230 --> 03:00:04,260
brother thank you very much have
yourself an eggnog with whiskey

3125
03:00:04,260 --> 03:00:06,660
on the job today. I know that's
what you guys love.

3126
03:00:07,740 --> 03:00:12,660
John C Dvorak: Sir Jeremy shum
body in Oakville, Ontario Canada

3127
03:00:12,660 --> 03:00:16,290
we get some Canadians coming in
a lot. Yeah. tu tu tu tu tu tu

3128
03:00:16,290 --> 03:00:19,410
another row of Dutch ITM John
and Adam a Merry Christmas and a

3129
03:00:19,410 --> 03:00:22,440
Happy New Year, sir Jeremy,
chum, buddy somehow

3130
03:00:22,470 --> 03:00:25,140
Adam Curry: I think there's a
correlation between our Jewish

3131
03:00:25,140 --> 03:00:28,830
producers eating Chinese on
Christmas and our Canadian

3132
03:00:28,830 --> 03:00:32,520
producers donating on Christmas.
I'm not sure why. It feels like

3133
03:00:32,520 --> 03:00:37,110
there's a correlation there.
Maybe even what Lawrence Kansas

3134
03:00:37,110 --> 03:00:39,750
$200 No note double up karma for
you and

3135
03:00:40,230 --> 03:00:43,770
Unknown: you've got karma

3136
03:00:45,450 --> 03:00:51,000
John C Dvorak: que es in Madison
Heights Virginia. 200. Thanks

3137
03:00:51,000 --> 03:00:54,870
for all the work you to to put
the show together and keep us

3138
03:00:54,870 --> 03:00:57,390
all informed. You guys rock.
Thank

3139
03:00:57,390 --> 03:01:01,170
Adam Curry: you. Hi. Yes,
there's Brandon. Who from

3140
03:01:01,170 --> 03:01:06,630
Flagstaff, Arizona. Blandon
Brandon trainwreck. And I read

3141
03:01:06,630 --> 03:01:11,610
his note earlier he is the the
dude named Ben who was if only

3142
03:01:11,610 --> 03:01:15,240
the the to the captain and the
commander had given him some of

3143
03:01:15,450 --> 03:01:19,350
their hotel rooms and bribes and
hookers and blow he would have

3144
03:01:19,350 --> 03:01:24,000
taught them about the how to not
get caught in the in the old

3145
03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:24,330
Lenny's

3146
03:01:24,750 --> 03:01:27,750
John C Dvorak: password.
Cryptography

3147
03:01:28,680 --> 03:01:31,350
Adam Curry: so great podcast he
says bring back the stuff about

3148
03:01:31,350 --> 03:01:33,690
secure phones. We actually
talked about that earlier. I'm

3149
03:01:33,690 --> 03:01:36,720
due for a new one and it would
be nice if it didn't spy on me.

3150
03:01:36,720 --> 03:01:40,800
Well, that's not gonna Good
luck. I would say I have an idea

3151
03:01:40,830 --> 03:01:45,450
Yeah, John Cena vortex idea. Put
it in a drawer don't use a phone

3152
03:01:45,480 --> 03:01:48,660
no phone. That's right. You're a
no PHONER I'm

3153
03:01:48,660 --> 03:01:55,590
John C Dvorak: a no phone or an
old phone or no Boehner. That's

3154
03:01:55,590 --> 03:01:58,470
all right. I'll come up with a
better phrase to be better.

3155
03:02:02,070 --> 03:02:03,690
Adam Curry: You're up? Oh,

3156
03:02:03,690 --> 03:02:06,360
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. Oh,
and who is it? Oh, it's Linda.

3157
03:02:06,360 --> 03:02:09,720
LAPACK in in Lakewood, Colorado.
Good. Oh, Linda. She comes in

3158
03:02:09,720 --> 03:02:15,360
with $200 as usual with with the
staredown and she wants to jobs

3159
03:02:15,360 --> 03:02:19,140
karma. And she says for a resume
that gets results go to Image

3160
03:02:19,140 --> 03:02:24,000
makers inc.com For all of your
executive resume and job search

3161
03:02:24,000 --> 03:02:29,250
needs. This image makers ink
with a case like a que ink I NK

3162
03:02:29,610 --> 03:02:33,270
are just fine Linda Lou packin
under the show's producer list,

3163
03:02:33,570 --> 03:02:36,270
Merry Christmas jobs,

3164
03:02:36,420 --> 03:02:40,620
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

3165
03:02:44,640 --> 03:02:46,860
Adam Curry: Wonderful, our
executive and Associate

3166
03:02:46,860 --> 03:02:50,820
Executive producers for episode
1619. Thank you all so much for

3167
03:02:50,820 --> 03:02:54,300
supporting us. Of course, we
appreciate the support that all

3168
03:02:54,300 --> 03:02:58,350
of you give us all the way down
to the $3 level that I see on

3169
03:02:58,350 --> 03:03:00,720
today's spreadsheet. Of course
you don't mention anybody under

3170
03:03:00,720 --> 03:03:04,380
50 For reasons of anonymity and
we always appreciate those of

3171
03:03:04,380 --> 03:03:07,860
you who are on sustaining
donations which you can find it

3172
03:03:07,860 --> 03:03:14,280
no agenda donations.com Or at
vora.org/and A those things

3173
03:03:14,280 --> 03:03:17,670
really help out in the slower
months and very Merry Christmas

3174
03:03:17,670 --> 03:03:20,310
to all of you. We appreciate
what you've done for us and we

3175
03:03:20,310 --> 03:03:23,520
continue to provide the value
for you since you came back with

3176
03:03:23,520 --> 03:03:25,950
the value for us. Jon's gonna
take us through the 50s now,

3177
03:03:26,670 --> 03:03:28,710
John C Dvorak: yeah, it's a
pretty good list. Just starting

3178
03:03:28,710 --> 03:03:33,870
with Nathan traywick in San
Antonio, Texas. 175 57 He needs

3179
03:03:33,870 --> 03:03:40,050
a de doo dee doo deuced and
you'll get some jobs karma at

3180
03:03:40,050 --> 03:03:45,720
the end. Hopefully right at the
end. Lydia Terry Dominello in

3181
03:03:45,720 --> 03:03:53,310
Rochester New Hampshire one twos
533. Chloe cheer Hart in lost

3182
03:03:53,310 --> 03:03:57,810
wages Nevada 12233. And this is
a switcheroo on behalf of Phil

3183
03:03:58,410 --> 03:04:04,470
shear Hart from your loving wife
Chloe. Happy anniversary. Morgan

3184
03:04:04,470 --> 03:04:15,090
Medlock in for crest Washington
10101 in field 100 And he has

3185
03:04:15,120 --> 03:04:18,660
under the mistaken belief that
he earns a note when it's not

3186
03:04:18,780 --> 03:04:19,380
absolutely

3187
03:04:21,210 --> 03:04:22,800
Adam Curry: that's EB that's the
next I'm

3188
03:04:22,800 --> 03:04:26,130
John C Dvorak: sorry, Ian feel
says nothing. It is Eb in

3189
03:04:26,130 --> 03:04:30,660
Carlsbad, California. That
stinks. He gets a note here read

3190
03:04:30,660 --> 03:04:35,640
but it's too long and it's under
200. So no, but he does get a D

3191
03:04:35,640 --> 03:04:36,120
douching.

3192
03:04:37,800 --> 03:04:39,630
Unknown: You've been D deuced.

3193
03:04:39,810 --> 03:04:42,030
John C Dvorak: I think he's got
a douchebag call out in there.

3194
03:04:42,060 --> 03:04:44,670
Adam Curry: Yes. For Jamison who
hit him in the mouth. That's his

3195
03:04:44,670 --> 03:04:45,090
brother.

3196
03:04:47,700 --> 03:04:50,460
John C Dvorak: That'll do get
I'll do it. Chris England.

3197
03:04:50,460 --> 03:04:55,260
Ancaster Ontario Canada nein
nein nein nein nein nein Nein.

3198
03:04:55,590 --> 03:05:00,540
With a lewd to notes thanks for
that. Jason maror in Vancouver

3199
03:05:00,540 --> 03:05:03,960
Washington. 808 Sir Kevin
McLaughlin and Nora, Concord

3200
03:05:03,960 --> 03:05:08,520
North Carolina 808 He does get
his little note read because it

3201
03:05:08,520 --> 03:05:15,030
only says boobs are the peanut
butter to our jelly. Okay, don't

3202
03:05:15,030 --> 03:05:22,320
eat sandwiches at Kevin's house.
Sure. Boober in Nevada, Iowa 808

3203
03:05:22,320 --> 03:05:29,790
No, he wants his boobs for
Christmas. Oh, yard and Karen in

3204
03:05:30,390 --> 03:05:33,930
XMF I'm getting there right
shorts and cardboard and Karen

3205
03:05:33,930 --> 03:05:42,930
cotton cotton. Cotton in chyron
in name Megan Nathan in Holland

3206
03:05:43,380 --> 03:05:50,760
77 T J of the side i Clayton
North Carolina 75. carers.

3207
03:05:50,790 --> 03:05:56,040
Katherine Morton in Charlotte,
North Carolina. 75 Monica

3208
03:05:56,040 --> 03:05:59,520
Lansing. Oh, Monica Lansing is
back in Drayton Valley. De

3209
03:05:59,520 --> 03:06:04,770
Monica. Alberta. 74 Baroness
Actually, her fat dad of the

3210
03:06:04,770 --> 03:06:11,430
BMX. I can't be in Mexicans.
North Little Rock, Arkansas.

3211
03:06:11,430 --> 03:06:11,790
He's

3212
03:06:11,790 --> 03:06:15,420
Adam Curry: he's the guy that
won as an old dude. He went he

3213
03:06:15,420 --> 03:06:19,950
did that whole BMX race and he
won. Oh, yeah. As a fat tax

3214
03:06:19,950 --> 03:06:24,000
John C Dvorak: as a rough go as
a 6969. You have to have a

3215
03:06:24,000 --> 03:06:29,790
strong crotch. Sure, Doherty and
Stevens city Virginia has 5443

3216
03:06:30,180 --> 03:06:39,270
Cameron Linga in North Branch,
Minnesota 6420. Nathan Newman is

3217
03:06:39,300 --> 03:06:43,350
floating around and APO box
number 606 is a switcheroo for

3218
03:06:43,350 --> 03:06:51,330
his wife. Ria in Korea. Wow. She
needs a D douching. You've been

3219
03:06:51,330 --> 03:06:57,660
D deuced. He's also on the
birthday list Matthew L. wart in

3220
03:06:57,690 --> 03:07:03,390
Weatherford, Texas. 606 is small
boobs. According to start Kevin

3221
03:07:03,390 --> 03:07:06,750
McLaughlin is back from Concord,
North Carolina and he says what

3222
03:07:06,750 --> 03:07:11,670
606 Like Fine Art boobs are
meant to be admired. Steven

3223
03:07:11,670 --> 03:07:17,370
Shevlin in Southampton,
Massachusetts. 606. Also, small

3224
03:07:17,370 --> 03:07:25,230
boobs. Michelle Larson and Ham
Lake Minnesota 606 with a merry

3225
03:07:25,230 --> 03:07:27,300
Christmas tour smokin out
husband

3226
03:07:29,940 --> 03:07:33,960
Adam Curry: Ashley and she says
yes, he is a male and we are not

3227
03:07:33,960 --> 03:07:34,710
a gay couple.

3228
03:07:35,490 --> 03:07:38,250
John C Dvorak: Okay, Ashley,
good to know. And Michelle

3229
03:07:38,250 --> 03:07:42,090
Larson comes into second time
with the same exact donation. Oh

3230
03:07:42,090 --> 03:07:46,590
interest 606 And then we're not
sure what's going on there. But

3231
03:07:46,590 --> 03:07:50,910
that's Thank you very much you.
Ban straw Baron of BNA,

3232
03:07:50,910 --> 03:07:55,770
Nashville, Tennessee at the 993
Dan Pinkerton with a birthday

3233
03:07:55,770 --> 03:07:59,580
from Chula Vista California
$57 57th Birthday should be

3234
03:07:59,580 --> 03:08:02,850
boop. Night of the frozen tundra
in New Brighton, Minnesota.

3235
03:08:02,850 --> 03:08:13,290
5678. Katie chopper in
Livingston, Texas 5585 Marcus

3236
03:08:13,290 --> 03:08:20,070
Miller in monta Boer Deutschland
5522. Jimmy Frederickson.

3237
03:08:20,070 --> 03:08:24,030
MacFarlane, Wisconsin 5510 Ryan
Smith, Raleigh, North Carolina

3238
03:08:24,030 --> 03:08:28,380
5510 surprise surprise, the
night of astonishment Yukon,

3239
03:08:28,380 --> 03:08:35,370
Oklahoma 5444, Dame Nancy San
Bruno California 5244. Barron

3240
03:08:35,370 --> 03:08:43,320
Henry paulose Rancho Palos
Verdes days in California 5242

3241
03:08:43,350 --> 03:08:47,730
Amanda West and Red Wing
Minnesota with a birthday 5222

3242
03:08:48,360 --> 03:08:54,180
Sir Woody in Sioux Falls South
Dakota 5120 Mike Petrie in

3243
03:08:54,180 --> 03:08:56,760
Hampton, New Jersey with a
switcheroo for his wife

3244
03:08:56,760 --> 03:09:01,860
Michelle. She loves the show, so
she probably needs a D douching.

3245
03:09:03,510 --> 03:09:09,030
You've been D deuced. Is a $51
donation sir Sergeant postal in

3246
03:09:09,030 --> 03:09:14,490
Miami Lakes Florida 5033.
Forrest Martin 5005 parts are

3247
03:09:14,490 --> 03:09:18,870
known as Sir Andrew Benz and
Imperial Missouri 5005. And now

3248
03:09:18,870 --> 03:09:22,530
we finally get to the $50 donors
to big list today. Sorry,

3249
03:09:23,010 --> 03:09:28,350
Michael Cicoria in New Richmond,
Wisconsin. Tatsiana. Prince in

3250
03:09:28,350 --> 03:09:33,390
Hollywood, Florida. Greg Huff in
Austin, Texas. David Perdue and

3251
03:09:33,390 --> 03:09:37,110
Snow Hill, North Carolina,
gaucho woodworking go to their

3252
03:09:37,110 --> 03:09:40,590
website, gaucho woodworking in
Redondo Beach, California. Got

3253
03:09:40,590 --> 03:09:43,410
some pretty cool stuff. They
have the cutting boards that he

3254
03:09:43,410 --> 03:09:47,070
specializes in, it seems Katie
Haskell in San Rafael California

3255
03:09:47,070 --> 03:09:50,580
Alex Delgado in Aptos,
California Michael Romano, in

3256
03:09:50,580 --> 03:09:53,280
Sebastopol, California, James
Farrell in Haverhill,

3257
03:09:53,280 --> 03:09:59,280
Massachusetts. Heather rose in
Lander, Wyoming with a birthday

3258
03:09:59,280 --> 03:10:04,020
coming up Somebody needs her
husband her man needs a D

3259
03:10:04,020 --> 03:10:04,470
douching.

3260
03:10:06,240 --> 03:10:08,070
Unknown: You've been de deuced

3261
03:10:09,210 --> 03:10:16,170
John C Dvorak: Diego Lopez crane
in Ithaca, New York. 50 He's got

3262
03:10:16,170 --> 03:10:20,280
to know about some. Brian humble
in Wimberley, Texas gaago Just

3263
03:10:20,280 --> 03:10:20,640
50.

3264
03:10:20,670 --> 03:10:23,730
Adam Curry: He said he's made a
lot of sub $50 donations. He

3265
03:10:23,730 --> 03:10:26,970
wants that money to be
contributed to the penny jar for

3266
03:10:26,970 --> 03:10:29,520
future producers. So Gotcha.
Thank you.

3267
03:10:30,540 --> 03:10:33,450
John C Dvorak: That's nice.
Brian Hummel, Wimberley, Texas,

3268
03:10:33,630 --> 03:10:37,980
Charles Boyd in San Marcos,
Texas. Samuel Kennedy in North

3269
03:10:37,980 --> 03:10:44,910
Riverside, Illinois, Brandon
Guzman in Den Haag, The Hague,

3270
03:10:44,940 --> 03:10:51,420
Netherlands. Brett lemons
Mitchell, Indiana, Russ quarry

3271
03:10:51,420 --> 03:10:57,120
in Winter Park, Florida. David
Hudson Lombard Illinois. John is

3272
03:10:57,120 --> 03:11:01,710
right you guys are educating the
truck drivers of America. J

3273
03:11:01,710 --> 03:11:08,610
could a cine in Austin Texas.
Steven crummy in El Cajon. Brian

3274
03:11:08,610 --> 03:11:15,870
P belong in s. S. S burry New
Jersey. Patrick s. S. S. S

3275
03:11:16,530 --> 03:11:23,280
Ekstrom Ekstrom. In brick, New
Jersey. Michael Stadium in parts

3276
03:11:23,280 --> 03:11:26,790
unknown and last on our list of
a lot of people is Leanne

3277
03:11:26,790 --> 03:11:31,440
Shipley, Dame Lian in Covington,
Washington. Want to thank

3278
03:11:31,440 --> 03:11:35,760
everybody on this list for
helping make the as we wrap the

3279
03:11:35,760 --> 03:11:39,960
year, a successful show out of
1619 Thank

3280
03:11:39,960 --> 03:11:42,000
Adam Curry: you all so very much
again, thank you to our

3281
03:11:42,000 --> 03:11:44,400
executive and Associate
Executive producers. We have a

3282
03:11:44,400 --> 03:11:47,130
Baronet note from Nick Ridge who
came in with a lower amount

3283
03:11:47,130 --> 03:11:50,310
Merry Christmas, John Adam. I've
been on subscription for nearly

3284
03:11:50,310 --> 03:11:53,640
five years and it does add up
and ready to take the Baronet

3285
03:11:53,640 --> 03:11:57,720
title on my birthday, which is
on Christmas Eve 1619 show thank

3286
03:11:57,720 --> 03:12:00,870
you for your show. It's the best
present please Knight me Burnett

3287
03:12:00,870 --> 03:12:04,260
nextar of the high Grove
overlooking the Grand Terrace of

3288
03:12:04,260 --> 03:12:07,650
the Inland Empire. No jingles no
karma I'll forage for food and

3289
03:12:07,650 --> 03:12:10,290
drink at the roundtable and we
appreciate you and appreciate

3290
03:12:10,290 --> 03:12:13,650
your note and as requested a
final jobs karma jobs,

3291
03:12:13,800 --> 03:12:16,380
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs

3292
03:12:20,400 --> 03:12:23,670
Adam Curry: and remember us
torok.org/na Or no agenda

3293
03:12:23,670 --> 03:12:27,120
donations.com Thank you again
for supporting us for episode

3294
03:12:27,120 --> 03:12:28,650
1690

3295
03:12:29,130 --> 03:12:33,540
Unknown: Our formula is this we
go out we get people in the

3296
03:12:33,540 --> 03:12:33,840
mouth

3297
03:12:42,120 --> 03:12:42,630
tomorrow

3298
03:12:53,280 --> 03:12:55,290
Adam Curry: we got quite the
list today. As you heard earlier

3299
03:12:55,290 --> 03:12:58,560
Dylan celebrated on the 20th
Amanda West which is Adam a

3300
03:12:58,560 --> 03:13:01,800
happy birthday and I love you.
I'll see you celebrate on the

3301
03:13:01,830 --> 03:13:05,130
22nd head the rose which is
Scott happy one belated for the

3302
03:13:05,130 --> 03:13:08,490
22nd sort of pursuit of peace
and tranquility wishes his

3303
03:13:08,490 --> 03:13:13,050
keeper a very happy birthday she
turns 57 Today, Sir Chris wishes

3304
03:13:13,050 --> 03:13:17,130
his soul mate Dame Kristen of
Carmel by the seat. A very happy

3305
03:13:17,130 --> 03:13:20,100
one for today as well. Nick
Ridge is celebrating the dam

3306
03:13:20,100 --> 03:13:25,110
Pinkerton turns 57 Tomorrow sir
Brian turn 60 to 65 tomorrow to

3307
03:13:25,110 --> 03:13:29,130
Yogi wishes Dame Janice at the
bombing range a happy 165 On the

3308
03:13:29,130 --> 03:13:32,640
second day of Christmas the 26th
Nathan Newman wished his wife

3309
03:13:32,640 --> 03:13:36,540
Maria in Korea happy one for
January 1 My sister's birthday

3310
03:13:36,540 --> 03:13:40,590
as well. And TJ have the side
iser TJ decide their wishes his

3311
03:13:40,590 --> 03:13:44,010
future millionaire Suni a happy
birthday. Happy birthday for

3312
03:13:44,010 --> 03:13:46,740
everybody here the best podcast
in the universe

3313
03:13:55,980 --> 03:13:59,610
don't want to do span we have
the families that no agendas

3314
03:13:59,610 --> 03:14:04,980
together baronet's Together. We
have Mike Kinney and Becky

3315
03:14:04,980 --> 03:14:08,640
Chinni and Mike is the night of
the great Katy Prairie and Becky

3316
03:14:08,640 --> 03:14:11,580
of course is a dame with the
great Katy Perry. They become

3317
03:14:11,580 --> 03:14:15,420
barren and bear Netis today look
at them with those sashes. Hey,

3318
03:14:15,420 --> 03:14:17,790
look wonderful. I give them a
round of applause. Everybody.

3319
03:14:17,790 --> 03:14:22,020
Thank you so much for supporting
us. We do have one, one

3320
03:14:22,050 --> 03:14:25,650
knighting today, and that is our
buddy there from the Inland

3321
03:14:25,860 --> 03:14:31,020
Empire. So let me get our inland
empire. So California this week

3322
03:14:31,020 --> 03:14:37,620
boy Nick Wren step on up buddy.
You are now about to become an

3323
03:14:37,620 --> 03:14:41,250
official night of the no agenda
roundtable join all those names

3324
03:14:41,250 --> 03:14:44,490
and knights who have supported
us in the amount of $1,000 or

3325
03:14:44,490 --> 03:14:47,910
more and I'm very proud hereby
to pronounce the k d as Baron

3326
03:14:48,390 --> 03:14:52,860
Baronet of the Highgrove
overlooking the Grand Terrace of

3327
03:14:52,860 --> 03:14:56,250
the Inland Empire for you. We've
got hookers and blow rent boys

3328
03:14:56,250 --> 03:14:58,950
and Chardonnay, you said you'd
scourge for food and drink

3329
03:14:58,950 --> 03:15:01,860
yourself. So we We got you
covered here. Along with that we

3330
03:15:01,860 --> 03:15:05,760
have some Rubenesque woman and
Rosae we got some cases in Saki

3331
03:15:05,760 --> 03:15:08,400
we got some bucket Manila
buckets and bourbon sparkling

3332
03:15:08,400 --> 03:15:11,790
cider. This was ginger ale and
Jerboas breast milk and pablum,

3333
03:15:11,940 --> 03:15:15,510
or just the mutton in me, you my
friend can go over to no agenda

3334
03:15:15,540 --> 03:15:19,650
nation, no agenda rings.com
Actually, no agenda rings.com

3335
03:15:19,650 --> 03:15:23,280
And there you will see the
handsome, very handsome night

3336
03:15:23,280 --> 03:15:26,160
and Dame rings all you have to
do is use the handling sizing

3337
03:15:26,160 --> 03:15:29,370
guide size your finger the one
you want to wear the ring on of

3338
03:15:29,370 --> 03:15:33,060
course and send it off to us
along with the address that you

3339
03:15:33,060 --> 03:15:35,670
want your ring which is a signet
ring and when you hit someone in

3340
03:15:35,670 --> 03:15:38,040
the mouth that leaves a lasting
impression you can also use it

3341
03:15:38,220 --> 03:15:40,320
to seal your important
correspondence with the

3342
03:15:40,500 --> 03:15:42,870
accompanying wax that we give
you and of course our

3343
03:15:42,870 --> 03:15:45,900
certificate of authenticity.
Thank you again for supporting

3344
03:15:45,900 --> 03:15:49,770
over five year period the best
podcast in the universe No one

3345
03:15:58,140 --> 03:16:01,740
well we talked about it earlier
you can combat the loneliness op

3346
03:16:01,740 --> 03:16:05,130
that is going on right now in
the country maybe worldwide

3347
03:16:05,130 --> 03:16:08,340
trying to get you to get hooked
on more internet stuff whatever

3348
03:16:08,340 --> 03:16:12,030
you whatever it's about you're
not lonely if you join a no

3349
03:16:12,030 --> 03:16:15,180
agenda group for no agenda
meetup you'll find out the

3350
03:16:15,180 --> 03:16:17,940
minute you go to one It's like
eating those potato chips. You

3351
03:16:17,940 --> 03:16:20,490
can't just have one you got to
keep going back. That's where

3352
03:16:20,490 --> 03:16:23,160
you get your connection as you
know that is protection no

3353
03:16:23,160 --> 03:16:27,660
agenda meet ups.com Only one
before the before the our next

3354
03:16:27,660 --> 03:16:34,110
show day which of course will be
Thursday the 28th is that there?

3355
03:16:34,110 --> 03:16:37,920
Is that right? The 28th Yeah,
that is right. So on Wednesday,

3356
03:16:38,010 --> 03:16:42,000
the 27th the Knoxville bladed
Boxing Day meet up doing your

3357
03:16:42,000 --> 03:16:46,650
British thing 530 at Buck
Buckethead Tavern in Knoxville,

3358
03:16:46,650 --> 03:16:50,130
Tennessee. Oh no Baray no Braves
hosting that number is bigger.

3359
03:16:50,130 --> 03:16:54,810
No agenda social and a douchebag
trolling in the troll real nice.

3360
03:16:54,810 --> 03:16:59,430
All you today. No Baray Adam
thanks votes count. I gotcha.

3361
03:16:59,460 --> 03:17:03,300
Thanks for hosting me, brother.
But DC Adam thinks the votes

3362
03:17:03,300 --> 03:17:06,630
count. What votes? I don't know
we're talking about voting. I

3363
03:17:06,630 --> 03:17:10,920
said this is why Joe Biden will
not be reelected then he says

3364
03:17:10,920 --> 03:17:14,580
well I said no but I think the
Republicans will cheat better

3365
03:17:14,580 --> 03:17:15,060
this time

3366
03:17:15,090 --> 03:17:19,620
John C Dvorak: everyone cheats
and that's what's going to count

3367
03:17:19,620 --> 03:17:21,480
because they can be used one way
or the other.

3368
03:17:22,050 --> 03:17:25,560
Adam Curry: Meet up still on the
way Bali Indonesia on the 28th

3369
03:17:25,590 --> 03:17:29,940
Let me see we've got the go to
the Virgin Islands the British

3370
03:17:29,940 --> 03:17:37,590
Virgin Islands on the January 1.
We have Indiana Wisconsin, Idaho

3371
03:17:37,590 --> 03:17:40,470
North Carolina. There's too many
dimension but we take it all the

3372
03:17:40,470 --> 03:17:43,680
way through April at this point
if you go to look at the at the

3373
03:17:43,680 --> 03:17:48,300
meetup site where you can find
meetups near you know agenda

3374
03:17:48,300 --> 03:17:52,350
meetups.com If you cannot find
one near you. There's a very

3375
03:17:52,350 --> 03:17:55,560
simple solution. Start one
yourself put it up there on no

3376
03:17:55,560 --> 03:17:59,100
agenda meetup.com Guaranteed
always a party. You will not

3377
03:17:59,100 --> 03:18:09,750
regret it. Hang out with nights
and days. You won't be triggered

3378
03:18:11,910 --> 03:18:20,850
you and everybody feels the
same. It's like a bar to alert

3379
03:18:20,850 --> 03:18:21,960
the affiliates.

3380
03:18:22,110 --> 03:18:22,950
Unknown: What happened?

3381
03:18:23,760 --> 03:18:27,420
Adam Curry: How did that happen?
How long donations I guess? That

3382
03:18:27,420 --> 03:18:29,940
happened? I should have realized
I didn't realize we had so many

3383
03:18:29,940 --> 03:18:36,180
50s That was really, really nice
to see though. Nice to see. ISOs

3384
03:18:36,180 --> 03:18:41,790
and to show ISOs Okay, go. Oh, I
have three let's lean into love.

3385
03:18:42,330 --> 03:18:45,750
Nice Christmas message. Yeah,
are you Oh, you sound

3386
03:18:45,750 --> 03:18:48,990
underwhelmed? Totally. Okay,
second one,

3387
03:18:49,020 --> 03:18:50,130
Unknown: but it's true.

3388
03:18:52,350 --> 03:18:54,360
John C Dvorak: That's a good one
for some other day.

3389
03:18:54,630 --> 03:18:57,600
Adam Curry: Okay, well, this one
may just change your mind about

3390
03:18:57,600 --> 03:18:58,770
my ISO offerings.

3391
03:18:58,800 --> 03:19:02,880
John C Dvorak: Why on earth does
this stuff make the news? Cool.

3392
03:19:02,880 --> 03:19:06,990
I like that one. I don't think
it's I think I've got the one.

3393
03:19:07,410 --> 03:19:10,110
Well of course you do. But I
have a bunch of them so we can

3394
03:19:10,140 --> 03:19:12,930
try a few. Let's try to start
with Festivus

3395
03:19:12,960 --> 03:19:14,730
Adam Curry: let's try them on
for size.

3396
03:19:14,760 --> 03:19:16,650
Unknown: Oh Festivus for the
rest of us.

3397
03:19:18,120 --> 03:19:19,860
Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, that's
decent.

3398
03:19:21,450 --> 03:19:24,870
John C Dvorak: Then well let's
go to in the clear we're pretty

3399
03:19:24,870 --> 03:19:25,530
much in the clear.

3400
03:19:25,860 --> 03:19:28,050
Adam Curry: I mean, they're all
chopped off they're not good.

3401
03:19:28,140 --> 03:19:29,940
The chopped off at the end.

3402
03:19:31,020 --> 03:19:34,860
John C Dvorak: A Nutcracker
Nutcracker slash Nutcracker.

3403
03:19:36,750 --> 03:19:38,700
Adam Curry: Okay, you got me on
that one.

3404
03:19:39,810 --> 03:19:41,550
John C Dvorak: Okay, now you got
two ones that are gonna win.

3405
03:19:41,610 --> 03:19:45,390
Now. It could be this one. Let's
start with Merry Christmas to

3406
03:19:45,870 --> 03:19:51,570
Okay. Merry Christmas. Everyone
knows like Dracula saying Merry

3407
03:19:51,570 --> 03:19:55,350
Christmas. But then I'll just go
to the cut to the chase after

3408
03:19:56,880 --> 03:19:59,220
Adam Curry: boring us. Yeah,
with the crap ones. Just get to

3409
03:19:59,220 --> 03:19:59,940
the good one.

3410
03:20:00,450 --> 03:20:02,880
John C Dvorak: It's gonna be
this tomorrow's Christmas and I

3411
03:20:02,880 --> 03:20:05,520
don't know how we can't use this
one which is Merry Christmas

3412
03:20:05,520 --> 03:20:06,000
one.

3413
03:20:06,480 --> 03:20:08,310
Unknown: Merry Christmas

3414
03:20:09,840 --> 03:20:13,770
John C Dvorak: yeah clear to the
point not chopped off

3415
03:20:13,770 --> 03:20:16,470
Adam Curry: what I would
actually do is I mean I'm

3416
03:20:16,470 --> 03:20:20,220
thinking you could also do a
combo Merry Christmas

3417
03:20:20,220 --> 03:20:21,360
Unknown: slash Nutcracker

3418
03:20:23,280 --> 03:20:27,060
John C Dvorak: Come on Come you
want to add a little? Yeah okay,

3419
03:20:27,210 --> 03:20:30,480
Adam Curry: I think slash
nutcrackers Best Buy no Mike

3420
03:20:30,480 --> 03:20:32,910
come on man You can't beat that
now it's time for

3421
03:20:35,820 --> 03:20:40,320
John C Dvorak: GCD All right,
which is the shortest? Actually

3422
03:20:40,320 --> 03:20:43,350
with the shortest is that one I
want to just play as a as a

3423
03:20:43,350 --> 03:20:47,100
throw away. So I got to today
okay, one's only eight seconds.

3424
03:20:47,280 --> 03:20:51,300
And um, you want the shortest.
We could start doing ones like

3425
03:20:51,300 --> 03:20:52,380
this. Stalin

3426
03:20:52,380 --> 03:20:56,160
Unknown: returns with his annual
segment asking people to share

3427
03:20:56,160 --> 03:20:57,600
with their good news. They

3428
03:20:57,600 --> 03:20:59,730
got a new cat and they learned
how

3429
03:20:59,730 --> 03:21:04,260
Adam Curry: to read. Hopefully
you have another one. That was

3430
03:21:04,260 --> 03:21:05,400
good. That was good. The

3431
03:21:06,030 --> 03:21:09,870
John C Dvorak: new cat and I
learned how to read. Very good

3432
03:21:09,870 --> 03:21:12,900
Adam Curry: news. Almost
perfect. But instead we'll play

3433
03:21:12,930 --> 03:21:17,160
what is this man and pony? Man
and pony. Is this something from

3434
03:21:17,160 --> 03:21:19,860
Mexico from Tijuana? No, no,
it's

3435
03:21:19,860 --> 03:21:21,420
John C Dvorak: not what you're
thinking. Finally

3436
03:21:21,420 --> 03:21:24,780
Unknown: tonight, it is never
too late for your holiday wish

3437
03:21:24,840 --> 03:21:29,670
to come through. Take a look.
Mr. Berg is 100 years young and

3438
03:21:30,120 --> 03:21:34,590
always wanted a pony for
Christmas. He lives at a senior

3439
03:21:34,590 --> 03:21:38,340
living location in Yuba City.
And as you see here, they teamed

3440
03:21:38,340 --> 03:21:42,420
up with Blue Zones project to
make his dream come true. Oh,

3441
03:21:42,420 --> 03:21:46,050
and as you see here, he was all
smiles when he was finally able

3442
03:21:46,050 --> 03:21:49,140
to pet that cute pony. Something
that he had wished for when he

3443
03:21:49,140 --> 03:21:49,710
was a kid.

3444
03:21:49,740 --> 03:21:53,610
I had to keep thinking that I
wrote a letter to Santa Claus 90

3445
03:21:53,610 --> 03:22:01,590
years ago and never got my pony.
But this time I got it. So don't

3446
03:22:01,620 --> 03:22:05,670
give up hope and keep wishing
Santa Claus eventually come

3447
03:22:05,670 --> 03:22:06,150
through.

3448
03:22:07,440 --> 03:22:11,220
Yes, he will. Mr. Verse advice
to children is to not be

3449
03:22:11,220 --> 03:22:14,430
surprised if you don't get what
you want immediately. But keep

3450
03:22:14,430 --> 03:22:18,720
wishing and believing. And
eventually as you heard him say

3451
03:22:18,720 --> 03:22:21,090
it might indeed come through

3452
03:22:21,120 --> 03:22:25,230
Adam Curry: Ah good one John.
That put me in the Christmas

3453
03:22:25,230 --> 03:22:28,710
John C Dvorak: spirit. That
should ever by the way anyone

3454
03:22:28,710 --> 03:22:32,040
out there that starts saying
stuff like 100 years young.

3455
03:22:32,070 --> 03:22:33,390
Yeah, should be shot.

3456
03:22:34,710 --> 03:22:41,910
Unknown: A good news story from
JCD happy vibes for you and me

3457
03:22:41,910 --> 03:22:46,770
and we all feel beds now. He's
done his bit to the back to

3458
03:22:46,770 --> 03:22:48,990
reality. That's turning to shit

3459
03:22:49,800 --> 03:22:53,100
Adam Curry: on everybody. That
is our show. That's it for the

3460
03:22:53,100 --> 03:22:58,500
Christmas Eve spectacular.
Spectacular here on the no

3461
03:22:58,500 --> 03:23:04,590
agenda show. And from the Texas
Hill Country, in which is

3462
03:23:04,590 --> 03:23:09,810
located in FEMA Region six.
Please remember to thank your

3463
03:23:09,810 --> 03:23:14,520
mail carrier and your flight
attendants. They need love this

3464
03:23:14,520 --> 03:23:18,840
Christmas season. My name is
Adam curry

3465
03:23:20,340 --> 03:23:23,790
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley. My name is John

3466
03:23:23,790 --> 03:23:25,380
C. Dvorak mine is

3467
03:23:25,380 --> 03:23:30,540
Adam Curry: the last voice you
will ever hear. We return of

3468
03:23:30,540 --> 03:23:34,590
course on Thursday the 28th this
will get you all geared up for

3469
03:23:34,590 --> 03:23:37,440
New Year's Eve, then we'll be
working New Year's Eve as well.

3470
03:23:37,440 --> 03:23:41,520
So we appreciate if you got any
value out of our Holiday

3471
03:23:41,520 --> 03:23:46,170
Spectacular that you return some
value to us. So you can remember

3472
03:23:46,170 --> 03:23:51,330
us for that at DeVore act.org/na
Hey, John, Merry Christmas, my

3473
03:23:51,330 --> 03:23:51,840
friend.

3474
03:23:52,260 --> 03:23:54,660
John C Dvorak: And Merry
Christmas to you and all yours

3475
03:23:54,720 --> 03:23:57,660
and all the ships at sea and
boots on the ground and boots on

3476
03:23:57,660 --> 03:23:59,820
the ground and beat in the air
until

3477
03:23:59,820 --> 03:24:02,880
Adam Curry: we meet again on
Thursday. Merry Christmas. Adios

3478
03:24:02,880 --> 03:24:09,120
mofos Oui oui. and such. Oh,
that's right. Thank you Jessie

3479
03:24:09,120 --> 03:24:12,660
Coy and l Nelson. And Bill
mountain a for the show makes us

3480
03:24:12,870 --> 03:24:15,330
very Christmassy boys very
Christmassy.

3481
03:24:15,360 --> 03:24:19,350
Unknown: What we have to do
though, is to convince them that

3482
03:24:19,350 --> 03:24:23,970
we are not easily pushed around
in a cage now the agreement will

3483
03:24:23,970 --> 03:24:30,420
be unenforceable as we go around

3484
03:24:32,220 --> 03:24:38,940
they ran out of money a build up
in that arm just to remind the

3485
03:24:38,940 --> 03:24:42,780
normal job we're gonna make the
right where

3486
03:24:46,740 --> 03:24:51,390
they are coming for us. To them.
We are the infidels. My

3487
03:24:51,390 --> 03:24:57,000
resolution airstrikes, bombed
them, bomb them, keep bombing

3488
03:24:57,000 --> 03:25:00,750
them, bomb them again and again.
on this

3489
03:25:00,750 --> 03:25:04,380
joyous occasion, I want to wish
all of you a very Merry

3490
03:25:04,380 --> 03:25:05,640
Christmas. The

3491
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twinkle of a child's eye the joy
of a grandmother's laughter the

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love and the hearts of mothers
and fathers for their children.

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We came, we saw he died. didn't
have anything to do with your

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visit. I'm sure. I

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03:25:20,130 --> 03:25:22,650
have two words for you. Predator
drones

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you will never see it coming.
Every

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nation in every region now has a
decision to make Either you are

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03:25:31,380 --> 03:25:35,970
with us where you are with the
terrorists the decision of one

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03:25:35,970 --> 03:25:40,650
man to launch a wholly
unjustified and brutal invasion

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03:25:40,680 --> 03:25:43,950
of Iraq I mean over Ukraine
correct anyway.

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03:25:45,540 --> 03:25:47,580
Well, we should have kept the
low when we got out and you

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know, it's very interesting had
we taken the lead you wouldn't

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have ISIS because they fuel
themselves with the oil that's

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where they got the money. So you
believe we can go in and take

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03:25:55,680 --> 03:25:57,750
the oil we should have taken the

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03:25:57,750 --> 03:26:01,890
oil when I searched John McCain
on YouTube the biggest thing

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03:26:01,890 --> 03:26:07,230
that comes up is using bom bom
bom bom, bom Moran 744,000 hits

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03:26:07,230 --> 03:26:09,690
in case you haven't checked it
recently. Are you proud or

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embarrassed of that?

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03:26:10,710 --> 03:26:12,090
I'm proud look,

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when I'm in the company of
veterans which I was and one of

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them says to me when are you
going to send a message to Iran

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03:26:19,830 --> 03:26:23,670
and we're joking around I'm
gonna joke around and if someone

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doesn't like it my advice to
them is to lighten up

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03:26:27,930 --> 03:26:31,380
John C Dvorak: by your call to
have Hooton be assassinated Do

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03:26:31,380 --> 03:26:31,980
you still stand

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03:26:31,980 --> 03:26:35,700
Unknown: by hope you'll be taken
out one way or the other I don't

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03:26:35,700 --> 03:26:36,840
care how they take him out.

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03:26:37,410 --> 03:26:40,620
How dare you watch the Huskies
no

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no

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guys shall open your eyes
because standard by big pharma

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03:27:19,260 --> 03:27:23,820
business it's not about your
health normal loss because

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03:27:23,820 --> 03:27:28,380
Navigators are horrible six
wants to sign

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03:27:43,860 --> 03:28:06,510
up my brother, my sister just to
make you more money

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03:28:26,580 --> 03:28:34,230
for a horse to get vaccine funds
to score down on

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03:28:47,220 --> 03:28:47,640
shirts

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President Kennedy said about
golf. He said we're going you

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know why? Because when we choose
to postpone No, let's not

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03:29:07,620 --> 03:29:11,100
postpone and get out of the
rain. God bless you all. Thank

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03:29:11,100 --> 03:29:17,280
you. He's crying took on Putin
in terms of Iraq. I mean, excuse

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03:29:17,280 --> 03:29:22,080
me in terms of what was going on
in Ukraine. The pressure he

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03:29:24,210 --> 03:29:28,500
looked at President acclamation
voter fraud was detecting the

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03:29:28,500 --> 03:29:33,390
right people at bat and kept
sundry occurring creepy robot

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03:29:33,390 --> 03:29:38,370
leg down the swamp is really the
I'm gonna give you the whole

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03:29:38,370 --> 03:29:43,710
load today that watch the hair
cut back up again, shoot it over

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03:29:43,710 --> 03:29:44,400
to pressure.

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03:29:44,610 --> 03:29:46,320
Why not include members of the
FBI

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and transition team as part of
this summer?

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03:29:49,830 --> 03:29:52,890
We're gonna have to see who the
next administration is because

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03:29:53,130 --> 03:29:57,240
we won and those swing states
and there was terrible things

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03:29:57,240 --> 03:29:59,070
that went on. So we're gonna
have to see who the next

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03:29:59,070 --> 03:30:00,270
administration is. We

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03:30:00,270 --> 03:30:04,650
have put together the most
extensive and inclusive voter

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03:30:04,650 --> 03:30:09,450
fraud organization in the
history of American politics. So

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03:30:09,450 --> 03:30:11,970
I learned about roaches I
learned about kids jumping on my

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03:30:11,970 --> 03:30:14,130
lap. Why attacks and why we're

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03:30:15,719 --> 03:30:20,489
getting nervous. Today 1000s of
President Trump supporters

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03:30:20,489 --> 03:30:23,549
gathered in the nation's
capitol. CBS has Jeff to gaze

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03:30:23,549 --> 03:30:25,589
was in the crowd, including

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03:30:25,590 --> 03:30:28,380
the recently pardoned former
National Security Adviser

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03:30:28,380 --> 03:30:32,190
Michael Flynn. This is the
President's loyal base when

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03:30:32,190 --> 03:30:37,500
you have constipation unlike
hostels, a soft stool is easy to

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03:30:37,500 --> 03:30:38,160
pass

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03:30:38,220 --> 03:30:39,990
shorter rush over to pressure

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for.org/in A Christmas slash
Nutcracker.