1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,320 Unknown: Hey Jesse Hey there. 2 00:00:01,410 --> 00:00:04,620 John C Dvorak: Hey Jesse. Hey there. Adam curry, John C 3 00:00:04,620 --> 00:00:05,160 Devorah. 4 00:00:05,910 --> 00:00:08,280 Adam Curry: Number 720 23 This is your award winning 5 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,300 combination media assassination episode 1614 This 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,710 Unknown: is no agenda 7 00:00:15,330 --> 00:00:18,480 Adam Curry: harnes We're broadcasting live from the heart 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,870 of the Texas Hill Country and fever rings number six in the 9 00:00:21,870 --> 00:00:24,270 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry and from 10 00:00:24,270 --> 00:00:27,300 John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley, where we're witnessing 11 00:00:27,300 --> 00:00:31,140 the worst pandering in the history of media since Gutenberg 12 00:00:31,650 --> 00:00:35,430 Taylor Swift Person of the Year I'm John C. Dvorak. 13 00:00:36,780 --> 00:00:43,170 Adam Curry: Buzzkill. I thought I'd have you with my sports ball 14 00:00:43,170 --> 00:00:46,260 reference, but no, no, you go straight for the for the Taylor 15 00:00:46,260 --> 00:00:51,690 Swift. This is not pandering. This is calculated this is 16 00:00:51,690 --> 00:01:03,300 Taylor Swift is an OP. pandering op, op op op. Oh, yeah, well, 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,180 John C Dvorak: where's the OP part of it? Oh, listen, another 18 00:01:06,210 --> 00:01:08,670 Unknown: story just breaking within the last hour Time 19 00:01:08,670 --> 00:01:13,680 Magazine's 2023 Person of the Year has been announced. It is 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:23,010 Taylor Swift. Yeah. Finally, it's been an interview with the 21 00:01:23,370 --> 00:01:27,060 let's make sure the first woman to appear twice on a Person of 22 00:01:27,060 --> 00:01:32,250 the Year covers since this franchise began in 1972, also 23 00:01:32,250 --> 00:01:37,020 chosen in 2017. That designation began nearly a century ago to 24 00:01:37,020 --> 00:01:40,380 honor in an individual group or concept that have the most 25 00:01:40,380 --> 00:01:44,760 influence on the world in the previous 12 months for good or 26 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,210 ill. She was also the first person to be selected because of 27 00:01:48,210 --> 00:01:53,400 her shipment in the arts is only the chairman person was born 28 00:01:53,430 --> 00:01:57,900 within the last 50 years to be named first woman to be 29 00:01:57,900 --> 00:02:01,470 recognized more than once. Breaking news, a small group of 30 00:02:01,470 --> 00:02:07,050 repeat designees, including several US presidents and world 31 00:02:07,050 --> 00:02:09,090 leaders. You 32 00:02:09,089 --> 00:02:11,489 Adam Curry: don't realize this. She is an OP. You just wait. 33 00:02:12,450 --> 00:02:14,160 John C Dvorak: What's the OP? Oh, 34 00:02:14,310 --> 00:02:16,860 Adam Curry: wait until she activates the Swifties against 35 00:02:16,860 --> 00:02:20,400 Trump. Just wait, but she already did that. Oh, no, no, 36 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,850 that she hasn't done anything yet. She has not unleashed the 37 00:02:23,850 --> 00:02:28,140 full power that is Taytay. You wait. Well, 38 00:02:28,140 --> 00:02:30,090 John C Dvorak: the way I see it. They saw what she did for the 39 00:02:30,090 --> 00:02:33,000 NFL. And they said well, yeah, let's do it. But wait a minute, 40 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,270 Bill. We can't We can't give her we already gave it to her in 41 00:02:36,270 --> 00:02:39,540 2017. We haven't even give it the golden era twice. We didn't 42 00:02:39,540 --> 00:02:44,730 give it to Roosevelt, the old lady. We haven't gives me an 43 00:02:44,730 --> 00:02:47,820 even Hillary didn't get it to nobody got it twice. While we're 44 00:02:47,820 --> 00:02:49,500 giving it to her. She's a singer. 45 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,640 Adam Curry: She's an OP. 46 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,730 John C Dvorak: Now we're gonna give it to her because we'll get 47 00:02:53,730 --> 00:02:56,010 more readers to our fine magazine. 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Adam Curry: Yes. Well, Forbes could have taken a page out of 49 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:05,850 that playbook. They named the most powerful woman. Did you 50 00:03:05,850 --> 00:03:11,580 see? Yeah, Queen Ursula. most powerful woman in the world. The 51 00:03:11,580 --> 00:03:13,740 John C Dvorak: word Equiline is she's 52 00:03:13,740 --> 00:03:17,100 Adam Curry: the most powerful woman in the world. Actually, 53 00:03:17,100 --> 00:03:21,150 the it's literally the world's most powerful woman. second year 54 00:03:21,150 --> 00:03:24,360 in a row. I didn't even know that she beat off competition. 55 00:03:24,540 --> 00:03:25,320 From Fifi. 56 00:03:25,890 --> 00:03:29,010 John C Dvorak: We did beat off a few guys. Oh, John. 57 00:03:29,670 --> 00:03:36,750 Adam Curry: What goodness. Yeah, happy Hanukkah, everybody. And 58 00:03:37,290 --> 00:03:41,580 this is also Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day. flags at half 59 00:03:41,580 --> 00:03:43,860 staff. I don't know if people remember it anymore. 60 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:46,860 John C Dvorak: Nobody remembers today to remember though, but 61 00:03:46,860 --> 00:03:48,090 nobody remembers it is 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,400 Adam Curry: if you're ever in Fredericksburg, Texas. Go see 63 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:57,150 our beautiful museum. The Pacific War Museum, which will 64 00:03:57,150 --> 00:04:00,450 help you there was a lot going on that we don't know that we 65 00:04:00,510 --> 00:04:03,990 have long forgotten. We were buddies with the Chinese back in 66 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:07,650 the day. Who knew? Oh, yeah, the Flying Tigers. Yeah, we were 67 00:04:07,650 --> 00:04:10,710 friends with the Chinese and we were we were beaten off the Japs 68 00:04:12,150 --> 00:04:17,310 as it were. And we're right back to to Queen Ursula. There you 69 00:04:17,310 --> 00:04:21,120 go. So I went to nd 70 00:04:22,110 --> 00:04:24,150 John C Dvorak: went through the bill. Yes, yes. You might as 71 00:04:24,150 --> 00:04:25,980 well give us a quick report. Well, 72 00:04:26,010 --> 00:04:29,640 Adam Curry: someone gave me RSV or something. Thanks. 73 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:30,480 John C Dvorak: Oh, you got sick. 74 00:04:30,540 --> 00:04:35,820 Adam Curry: Oh my god. I've been coughing all night. Oh, yeah, 75 00:04:35,820 --> 00:04:39,120 it's really infected. I'm telling it's RSV. Someone gave 76 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,870 John C Dvorak: me RSV. Why would it be anything else can't be it. 77 00:04:44,460 --> 00:04:47,760 Could be tuberculosis? No, no, no. RSV, 78 00:04:47,790 --> 00:04:50,790 Adam Curry: this no all this that's all it can be. Anyway, 79 00:04:50,820 --> 00:04:52,530 John C Dvorak: they're spraying it around I'm sure of it. 80 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,440 Adam Curry: We had about 100 crop dusters. 130 people was 81 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,100 fantastic. What a great event but that's nice. We we flew out 82 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:00,120 from Austin have 83 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:03,209 John C Dvorak: everything that you drove the whole way, 84 00:05:03,209 --> 00:05:05,429 according to Tina, while 85 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:08,820 Adam Curry: driving to Austin is already an hour and 45. So it's 86 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,740 quite a ways. Now you haven't flown in a while I hadn't flown 87 00:05:13,740 --> 00:05:19,680 in, in a bit, or at least not since the new TSA machines 88 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,490 John C Dvorak: among the new machines now. Yes, yes. This is 89 00:05:23,490 --> 00:05:24,300 the X ray. 90 00:05:24,780 --> 00:05:27,540 Adam Curry: Well, that's not for you. It's for your bag. So you 91 00:05:27,540 --> 00:05:30,780 no longer do you have to take your laptop out of your bag. 92 00:05:30,930 --> 00:05:31,770 Your electronics 93 00:05:31,770 --> 00:05:35,190 John C Dvorak: giant bullet looking? Yes, the Aino they had 94 00:05:35,190 --> 00:05:39,240 an A they had a prototype of one of those in Oakland. Yeah, well, 95 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,610 now they're everywhere. Good looking machine. Yeah, 96 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,250 Adam Curry: they got the blue and the red Halo lights on it. 97 00:05:44,850 --> 00:05:47,310 For all I know, it's just a tube with nothing in it. I mean, it 98 00:05:47,310 --> 00:05:47,730 looks like 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,940 John C Dvorak: nothing going on at all. But there's actually a 100 00:05:50,940 --> 00:05:53,100 small midget in there opening your bags, 101 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:57,300 Adam Curry: but the name of it is just it's laugh inducing. A 102 00:05:57,300 --> 00:06:02,460 no logic. I mean, come on, guys. I mean, I'm sure it's Anna 103 00:06:02,460 --> 00:06:06,030 logic, but you can't I mean, as a 15 year old that I am you 104 00:06:06,030 --> 00:06:12,030 can't not look at and go ain't a logic. Anyway, it does does 105 00:06:12,030 --> 00:06:14,310 speed up the process. They don't look at your boarding pass 106 00:06:14,310 --> 00:06:17,100 anymore. I think we've kind of been through this. You just show 107 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:19,380 your driver's license. Oh, you're good to go. Come on 108 00:06:19,380 --> 00:06:21,870 through. They got everything ready. They know they know what 109 00:06:21,870 --> 00:06:26,190 you're doing. They know where you going. So this is organized. 110 00:06:26,190 --> 00:06:31,860 So we flew in and were picked up by Dame Christina Pearl and her 111 00:06:31,860 --> 00:06:35,460 husband Charles, they drove us straight to the venue from the 112 00:06:35,460 --> 00:06:40,200 airport was perfect. We got a 130 people, Mark and Maria, who 113 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:45,060 organized this. They are this is John, you have no idea how well 114 00:06:45,060 --> 00:06:49,980 organized this is. This whole place was ours. They had a 115 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:54,330 stage. The stage if you had a stage, the stage was dressed. 116 00:06:54,510 --> 00:06:58,080 You know they had Christmas poinsettias everywhere. They 117 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,140 have a band that if we wanted it that could have been a band 118 00:07:01,140 --> 00:07:05,160 great sound system had a mic you know they do they do a raffle. 119 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,760 So the way they do it is everybody pitches in into the 120 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,560 pot. And I think we have a couple of 121 00:07:10,740 --> 00:07:13,530 John C Dvorak: this is that Indiana has been going on for a 122 00:07:13,530 --> 00:07:17,070 while. Yeah. Well, one of our other Indiana producers couldn't 123 00:07:17,070 --> 00:07:19,410 get anyone to come to his thing. Yes. 124 00:07:19,410 --> 00:07:22,020 Adam Curry: And but that's probably because everybody was 125 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,580 into this thing. This is the place so they do this raffle. 126 00:07:27,270 --> 00:07:30,420 And everybody pitches in whatever they want. I think 127 00:07:30,420 --> 00:07:33,780 there's three Switcheroos maybe four executive producers today 128 00:07:33,780 --> 00:07:39,360 from so the money that's put into the raffle pot goes to a 129 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,300 donation and people get an executive producer from for on 130 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:46,170 the show. But then they but you also get a prize. And they had 131 00:07:46,170 --> 00:07:50,580 like a no agenda license plate. The first thing to go to many 132 00:07:50,580 --> 00:07:51,360 eggs book. 133 00:07:51,750 --> 00:07:52,230 John C Dvorak: Yeah, the 134 00:07:53,340 --> 00:07:55,590 Adam Curry: book autographed autographed by Mimi, 135 00:07:55,980 --> 00:07:57,660 John C Dvorak: there was an autographed version there. Yes, 136 00:07:57,660 --> 00:07:59,850 Adam Curry: there. Yes. Yeah, I mean, this this thing is tight, 137 00:07:59,850 --> 00:08:05,850 man. It's organized. There were people who drove in from Ohio 138 00:08:05,850 --> 00:08:08,400 and from Michigan. That's that's not super far, you know, hour 139 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,710 and a half or so. But it still was nice to have them there. 140 00:08:11,850 --> 00:08:17,730 There's a Rolls Royce aircraft engine plants very nearby. And I 141 00:08:17,730 --> 00:08:19,530 met at least two engineers 142 00:08:19,860 --> 00:08:21,630 John C Dvorak: that died the Rolls Royce was an English 143 00:08:21,630 --> 00:08:22,890 company. Now 144 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,500 Adam Curry: this is they they purchased this they purchased 145 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:30,900 some some aircraft engine manufacturer and it's in 146 00:08:30,900 --> 00:08:34,920 Indianapolis. Indianapolis is very famous as Indy center which 147 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,290 is the big ATC did 148 00:08:37,290 --> 00:08:39,330 John C Dvorak: you go up on that delta tall thing in the middle 149 00:08:39,330 --> 00:08:39,750 of town? 150 00:08:39,780 --> 00:08:44,520 Adam Curry: They do you mean the tower? Yeah, no. But we had 151 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,090 several air traffic controllers, at least three. 152 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,490 John C Dvorak: And I want to hear the stories. 153 00:08:51,210 --> 00:08:55,380 Adam Curry: Well, I I was given some interesting documentation 154 00:08:55,380 --> 00:08:58,980 of UFOs which I'm still parsing through because these are 155 00:08:58,980 --> 00:09:02,550 reported to the to the air traffic controllers at 156 00:09:02,550 --> 00:09:06,750 Indianapolis. So there's some some videos that I'm checking 157 00:09:06,750 --> 00:09:12,330 out these guys are crazy. But also I got a full rundown you 158 00:09:12,330 --> 00:09:17,370 know about this, this so called shortage of the of the air 159 00:09:17,370 --> 00:09:22,200 traffic controllers. This bowl I mean yeah, of course there's you 160 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,950 know, there's a shortage but it's really it's it's mainly the 161 00:09:25,980 --> 00:09:28,860 the union that wants to keep the shortage because everyone's 162 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:33,030 getting overtime and making bank. So that's the way to go. 163 00:09:33,060 --> 00:09:35,790 Yeah, now of course everyone is getting divorced because they're 164 00:09:35,790 --> 00:09:39,270 working so much they can barely keep their families got all this 165 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:45,180 all this money. Exactly. Let me see what else that I have on my 166 00:09:45,180 --> 00:09:48,600 list that we had the seminary crew was there a lot of kids, a 167 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,580 lot of kids very diverse crowd in age and background and it was 168 00:09:53,580 --> 00:09:59,220 just it was it was quite quite phenomenal. Ryan diazo gave us 169 00:09:59,790 --> 00:10:04,770 two Silver COVID shield coins ounce of silver each, so I'll be 170 00:10:04,770 --> 00:10:09,600 sending yours off to you. I'm gonna see was there anything 171 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:15,690 else that that I had a lot of amazing how many people said, 172 00:10:16,380 --> 00:10:22,050 You guys changed my life? Or you guys save my life? Which, which 173 00:10:22,050 --> 00:10:25,110 is weird, you know, I was like, Well, you know why? Well during 174 00:10:25,110 --> 00:10:29,580 COVID But talk him well, I guess our talk him during COVID gave 175 00:10:29,580 --> 00:10:32,100 people at least the courage to know that they weren't the only 176 00:10:32,100 --> 00:10:33,060 crazy ones. I 177 00:10:33,060 --> 00:10:35,610 John C Dvorak: think that's it. Yeah, we didn't save anybody's 178 00:10:35,610 --> 00:10:39,660 life we informed them that there's a subset of people out 179 00:10:39,660 --> 00:10:42,930 there that have common sense. Yes. And they're probably 180 00:10:42,930 --> 00:10:43,680 they're part of it, 181 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:46,380 Adam Curry: and they're part of it. And the final thing I would 182 00:10:46,380 --> 00:10:49,980 say if you ever go into Indianapolis do as we did, I 183 00:10:49,980 --> 00:10:53,610 like staying at airport hotels. I'm a big fan of that, that we 184 00:10:53,610 --> 00:10:58,350 stayed at the Embassy Suites. This place is dynamite. Yeah, 185 00:10:58,380 --> 00:11:03,930 it's brand new. If you would put this place in an airport and 186 00:11:03,930 --> 00:11:06,870 Miss Yeah. Airport Embassy Suites. Yeah, with a shuttle 187 00:11:06,900 --> 00:11:10,770 with the shuttle shuttle to the airport. This, if you had put 188 00:11:10,770 --> 00:11:14,040 this in downtown Indy, you probably would have paid $700 A 189 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,330 night and we wound up paying under 200. There was an end just 190 00:11:18,330 --> 00:11:23,880 beautiful, free made to order breakfast the next morning. It 191 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,910 makes no sense to stay in a hotel anywhere else. But at the 192 00:11:26,910 --> 00:11:31,140 airport. It's just the way to go. And then you know, you roll 193 00:11:31,140 --> 00:11:34,290 out of bed and it's like I don't have to worry about can I get a 194 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,250 cab or an Uber or traffic or any of this now it's going to be 195 00:11:38,250 --> 00:11:42,600 great. So anyway, it was thanks you thank you again, Mark and 196 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,710 Maria for for taking good care of us. It was a lot of fun. It 197 00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:49,380 was good to do one of those meetups again, and thanks for 198 00:11:49,380 --> 00:11:51,780 the RSV. Appreciate it. It's great. 199 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:54,690 John C Dvorak: But you do sound a little congested. 200 00:11:54,810 --> 00:11:59,820 Adam Curry: Oh, it's I was coughing all night. I won't 201 00:11:59,820 --> 00:12:02,580 complain. I won't complain because that's the least of our 202 00:12:02,580 --> 00:12:05,040 worries, because we've got red blinking lights. 203 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,490 Unknown: Today the FBI director was asked point blank if the 204 00:12:08,490 --> 00:12:14,400 terror threat in the US is as bad as it was before 911. deeply 205 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,630 disturbing. All the 206 00:12:15,630 --> 00:12:20,070 lights were blinking red before 911 Apparently, obviously all of 207 00:12:20,070 --> 00:12:24,000 us missed it. Would you say that there's multiple blinking red 208 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,590 lights out there multiple. 209 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,890 I see blinking lights everywhere I turn Oh, no, it's the Israel 210 00:12:28,890 --> 00:12:32,670 Hamas war started. Get your eyes checked right says the terror 211 00:12:32,670 --> 00:12:36,120 threat is at a whole nother level with a number of terror 212 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,750 groups including ISIS and al Qaeda, using social media to 213 00:12:39,750 --> 00:12:43,800 call for attacks, including right here in the US. The DOJ 214 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,400 also seeing a spike in threats against the Muslim community yet 215 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,100 stunning increase in threats aimed at Jewish Americans 216 00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:52,320 starting October 7, what's never 217 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,430 Adam Curry: seen a time where all the threats, or so many of 218 00:12:56,430 --> 00:13:00,360 the threats are all elevated all at exactly the same time. Though 219 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,910 there must be a reason for this. What could the reason be 220 00:13:02,910 --> 00:13:05,010 Unknown: gray is calling on Congress to renew a law that 221 00:13:05,010 --> 00:13:08,010 allows the FBI to conduct surveillance on suspected 222 00:13:08,010 --> 00:13:12,780 terrorists overseas. That last interview here, Ray says given 223 00:13:12,780 --> 00:13:16,140 the threats now is not the time to let that happen. You 224 00:13:16,140 --> 00:13:18,690 Adam Curry: shouldn't even be thinking about it. Now is not 225 00:13:18,690 --> 00:13:21,810 the time. It's the worst more red blinking lights than ever. 226 00:13:22,110 --> 00:13:25,830 And I loved how Abc New York discuss this topic. 227 00:13:25,890 --> 00:13:28,410 Unknown: And now this sobering warning from the FBI director 228 00:13:28,410 --> 00:13:31,200 who says this agencies the morning show, the morning show 229 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,170 on ABC is working around the clock to prevent potential 230 00:13:34,350 --> 00:13:37,710 domestic attacks by Hamas or its sympathizers joined now by ABC 231 00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:41,550 reporter Erica Turski. Erin, thanks for being here. All of 232 00:13:41,550 --> 00:13:44,790 this came out during the Senate hearing yesterday, Director Ray 233 00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:47,790 really highlighting the concern to lawmakers. Let's play a 234 00:13:47,790 --> 00:13:49,620 portion of that, and then we'll get our 235 00:13:49,860 --> 00:13:51,930 John C Dvorak: portion. What I would say that is 236 00:13:51,930 --> 00:13:54,090 Adam Curry: unique about the environment that we're in right 237 00:13:54,090 --> 00:13:56,790 now in my career is that well, there may have been times over 238 00:13:56,790 --> 00:14:00,030 the years where individual threats could have been higher 239 00:14:00,060 --> 00:14:03,120 here or there than where they might be right now. I've never 240 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,320 seen a time where all the threats are so many of the 241 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,040 threats are all elevated, all elevated exactly the same time. 242 00:14:11,070 --> 00:14:13,680 That's what makes this environment that we're in now. 243 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,280 So fraud, they need to bring back the color codes, man, we 244 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,870 need to show it on the screen just 245 00:14:19,710 --> 00:14:22,560 John C Dvorak: Nashi we're gonna do this every Republican thing 246 00:14:22,590 --> 00:14:25,590 Adam Curry: by funding our men and women who are working 247 00:14:25,590 --> 00:14:28,050 shoulder to shoulder with state local law enforcement and other 248 00:14:28,050 --> 00:14:31,890 partners every day. makes it even more important, not less. 249 00:14:32,220 --> 00:14:37,350 Unknown: So blinking red lights analogy about 911 All the lights 250 00:14:37,350 --> 00:14:41,160 were blinking red before 911. Apparently, this is obviously 251 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,520 all of us missed it. Would you say that there's multiple 252 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:46,260 blinking red lights out there 253 00:14:47,130 --> 00:14:51,900 eating everywhere in turn. So certainly chilling comments, 254 00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:54,510 especially here in New York, Aaron and some of the threats 255 00:14:54,510 --> 00:14:57,630 that he talked about the elevator chatter online from al 256 00:14:57,630 --> 00:14:59,160 Qaeda and ISIS. Did you learn from 257 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,280 this Oh, It is chilling because it's coming at a time when the 258 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,090 Israel Hamas war has elevated the threat level for Muslim 259 00:15:06,090 --> 00:15:09,030 Americans, there's been a skyrocketing number of anti 260 00:15:09,030 --> 00:15:12,240 semitic threats against the Jewish community. And that's 261 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,120 been a consistent theme since October 7. 262 00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:19,050 Adam Curry: Now Now listen to the news models jump in and make 263 00:15:19,050 --> 00:15:23,730 sure that you understand that it would be crazy not to reinstate 264 00:15:23,730 --> 00:15:27,510 the ability for the FBI to spy on everybody. That would just be 265 00:15:27,510 --> 00:15:28,050 nuts. 266 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,390 Unknown: And in his comments came as they're looking whether 267 00:15:30,390 --> 00:15:34,080 or not to authorize this this section 702 of the FISA right, 268 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,020 this is an Intelligence Surveillance Act. This has been 269 00:15:37,020 --> 00:15:40,380 highly debated before. What does that mean, and what do we expect 270 00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:40,710 to happen? 271 00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:43,680 One of the reasons why the FBI director is so concerned about 272 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,610 the threat level is because this is about to expire. It's a tool 273 00:15:47,790 --> 00:15:52,680 that the FBI can use effectively against Trump. Yeah, on foreign 274 00:15:52,710 --> 00:15:57,000 terror groups, and Trump Trump's concern of overreach and it 275 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,720 isn't necessarily a popular measure when it comes to debate 276 00:16:00,750 --> 00:16:04,140 on Capitol Hill. But the FBI director is imploring Congress 277 00:16:04,140 --> 00:16:09,990 to reauthorize coming up, yeah, Trump otherwise he says some of 278 00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:13,890 the chatter that Shane or noticed or potentially preempt a 279 00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:17,310 plot that would go unnoticed but Erin, there is a flip side to 280 00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:19,350 this right. And some people would say this is politically 281 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:22,680 motivated. The Trump it seems like both sides of the aisle 282 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,420 feel that this could infringe on Fourth Amendment rights, right. 283 00:16:27,420 --> 00:16:31,530 There's always a go of FBI overreach, hear that the tool is 284 00:16:31,530 --> 00:16:36,390 being used in ways that maybe it shouldn't be used to to spy on 285 00:16:36,390 --> 00:16:39,540 Americans or to do other surreptitious things. And 286 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:43,470 there's a real suspicion these days, especially in Republican 287 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:48,120 politics, about a deep state and that complicates the job of the 288 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,710 FBI and law enforcement. Ray would say that the FBI follows 289 00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:56,670 the law and is looking to reauthorize a program that is 290 00:16:56,670 --> 00:16:58,020 used successfully in the past they're 291 00:16:58,020 --> 00:17:01,740 also this thing. Yeah. Okay. But just get a warrant first, they 292 00:17:01,740 --> 00:17:04,500 would like a warrant first, and they have to get a judge to sign 293 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,930 off. This isn't like they can just go willy nilly tapping 294 00:17:06,930 --> 00:17:07,680 everybody's phone. 295 00:17:07,679 --> 00:17:09,599 John C Dvorak: They did it before exactly what they do. 296 00:17:10,769 --> 00:17:11,519 willy nilly. 297 00:17:11,550 --> 00:17:13,560 Adam Curry: They don't care whether they have 702 298 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,810 reauthorized or not come on Kim. Yeah, I 299 00:17:15,809 --> 00:17:17,549 John C Dvorak: agree with that. They just do it anyway. 300 00:17:17,580 --> 00:17:21,270 Adam Curry: You want to hear the pixie girl the spook her her 301 00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:23,430 report on CBS Catherine herridge. 302 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,350 John C Dvorak: What does she have to say? Oh, good 303 00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:28,530 Unknown: evening, Nora. The shadow is almost always elevated 304 00:17:28,530 --> 00:17:31,530 during the holidays. Our analysts expect heightened 305 00:17:31,530 --> 00:17:32,970 rhetoric with heightened 306 00:17:32,970 --> 00:17:35,520 Adam Curry: rhetoric. Yes, we're hearing it right now. The 307 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,870 heightened rhetoric. We're 308 00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:38,580 John C Dvorak: listening to it as we 309 00:17:40,590 --> 00:17:42,960 Unknown: expect heightened rhetoric with terrorist groups 310 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:43,920 and their media outlets 311 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:48,390 latching on to the conflict with the Israeli military during 312 00:17:48,390 --> 00:17:51,660 download southern Gaza and Hanukkah only days away. 313 00:17:52,350 --> 00:17:56,100 Intelligence Report reviewed by CBS News warns of increased 314 00:17:56,100 --> 00:17:59,670 threats from foreign terrorist groups and mirrors FBI director 315 00:17:59,670 --> 00:18:02,790 Christopher Ray's testimony today on Capitol Hill, 316 00:18:03,060 --> 00:18:05,730 blinking red lights analogy about non 317 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,230 Adam Curry: blinking rib of every everyone had to have it. 318 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:12,960 You know, this is the heightened rhetoric 911 319 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,990 Unknown: Would you say that there's multiple blinking red 320 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:16,830 lights out there? 321 00:18:16,890 --> 00:18:21,090 Adam Curry: And how weak is this blinking red light nonsense. You 322 00:18:21,090 --> 00:18:24,480 know, this just I see blinking lights everywhere I turn 323 00:18:24,780 --> 00:18:28,800 Unknown: in stark language, the intelligence takes ISIS and Al 324 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,190 Qaeda will likely use the Middle East conflict to increase calls 325 00:18:32,190 --> 00:18:33,540 for violence in the US. 326 00:18:33,810 --> 00:18:37,050 John C Dvorak: Just for one second, we have to note that 327 00:18:37,050 --> 00:18:42,060 they keep mentioning ISIS and Al Qaeda to operations oppose 328 00:18:42,060 --> 00:18:44,760 they've been shut down or shuttered at least in the Middle 329 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,020 East. We have the Houthis now and Iran that's supposed to be 330 00:18:49,050 --> 00:18:53,400 who's doing all the damage not ISIS. Why? Well as ISIS Where's 331 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:54,120 ISIS? 332 00:18:54,150 --> 00:18:56,460 Adam Curry: There's no ISIS. They're just doing this to get 333 00:18:56,460 --> 00:19:02,460 702 reauthorized. They're full of crap. The full of it, full of 334 00:19:02,460 --> 00:19:05,700 it. The blinking lights are his own Feds like Can we go now both 335 00:19:05,700 --> 00:19:08,700 Can we do something both? Can we we got a nut job both can we get 336 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:10,890 and can we get into dude don't bother to be called but to stick 337 00:19:10,890 --> 00:19:11,850 to the path to it. 338 00:19:11,910 --> 00:19:15,090 Unknown: It's ISIS and Al Qaeda will likely use the Middle East 339 00:19:15,090 --> 00:19:15,750 conflict or 340 00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:17,760 John C Dvorak: where you will get carried away with that Viet. 341 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,880 Thank you. You could have ended it very early. But no, no, no, 342 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,680 you kept going and going. That was good. 343 00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:24,210 Adam Curry: I couldn't help myself. Sounds for 344 00:19:24,210 --> 00:19:25,470 Unknown: violence in the US. 345 00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:27,780 Adam Curry: What RSV Yes. 346 00:19:28,020 --> 00:19:31,020 Unknown: Compared to prior years, as new details emerge 347 00:19:31,050 --> 00:19:33,330 about an alleged plot to attack Vegas 348 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:35,580 Adam Curry: we had Oh, we had an alleged plot we 349 00:19:35,580 --> 00:19:37,530 Unknown: charged the suspect with multiple felonies to 350 00:19:37,530 --> 00:19:39,780 include terroristic threats. Both 351 00:19:39,780 --> 00:19:42,060 Adam Curry: we got him we got we got a cool kid here but we got 352 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:45,090 we got we got to keep to do this for both. We can flag 353 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,220 Unknown: we charged the suspect with multiple felonies to 354 00:19:47,220 --> 00:19:49,500 include terroristic threats. authorities 355 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:53,040 arrested a 16 year old suspect who allegedly wrote on social 356 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,430 media about launching a lone wolf attack in support of ISIS. 357 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,970 A homemade flag and other articles allegedly recovered. 358 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,890 Along came the flag off hearts on Capitol Hill, a stark warning 359 00:20:04,890 --> 00:20:06,360 from the FBI chief. 360 00:20:06,420 --> 00:20:10,200 Adam Curry: I've never seen a time where all the threats were 361 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,950 flagged from 15 year old or so many of the threats are all 362 00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:16,290 elevated elevated, at exactly the same 363 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,880 Unknown: time with a spike in threats since the war began. The 364 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,910 intelligence report warns civilian casualties in Gaza, 365 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:27,000 whether real perceived or falsified, or the increased 366 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,900 presence of US military forces in direct support of Israel will 367 00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:34,380 likely be exploited by terrorist groups terrorist groups, we said 368 00:20:34,380 --> 00:20:36,930 there's nothing to indicate Hamas has the intent or 369 00:20:36,930 --> 00:20:40,590 capability to conduct operations inside the US. The bureau has 370 00:20:40,590 --> 00:20:42,360 not discounted the possibility Nora 371 00:20:42,990 --> 00:20:44,010 worry about these lone wolves. 372 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:44,850 Adam Curry: Oh yeah. 373 00:20:44,850 --> 00:20:46,410 John C Dvorak: Oh yeah. We 374 00:20:46,410 --> 00:20:48,840 Adam Curry: got seven year old kid with a with a Twitter and a 375 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,030 flag. lone wolves. Yes. 376 00:20:51,030 --> 00:20:53,460 John C Dvorak: Show they had a shooting in Vegas. Yeah, they 377 00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:56,520 did. UNLV by a guy who is a professor 378 00:20:56,550 --> 00:21:00,570 Adam Curry: I know who he probably has gone nuts with 379 00:21:00,570 --> 00:21:02,010 these kids that he has to teach. 380 00:21:03,150 --> 00:21:05,550 John C Dvorak: And then we had to the other one, too. First of 381 00:21:05,550 --> 00:21:08,310 all, there was the guy in Virginia who blew himself up in 382 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:12,060 his house. Yeah, and he was like a left wing nut ball hated Trump 383 00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:14,640 to you so we had to get that off the front page. We did that 384 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,360 pretty easily. 385 00:21:15,390 --> 00:21:18,090 Adam Curry: Did you see that couch go fly him. No, 386 00:21:18,090 --> 00:21:20,400 John C Dvorak: I but I saw the explosion. It was unbelievable. 387 00:21:20,430 --> 00:21:22,980 Adam Curry: If you if you if you freeze frame the explosion 388 00:21:23,010 --> 00:21:28,050 catches houses fly up fly. I mean, that wasn't that. I think 389 00:21:28,050 --> 00:21:31,470 he had explosives in the basement or something. Certainly 390 00:21:31,470 --> 00:21:31,650 went 391 00:21:31,650 --> 00:21:35,100 John C Dvorak: off and you know, man, a shooting a flare gun out 392 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:37,110 the window. That guy was off his rocker 393 00:21:37,140 --> 00:21:39,810 Adam Curry: and this is Arlington, Virginia, this is 394 00:21:39,810 --> 00:21:40,860 spooks and of all 395 00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:43,290 John C Dvorak: places. All planned. Then we saw we have the 396 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,630 Vegas thing but that's no good because that guy was a 397 00:21:45,630 --> 00:21:46,380 professor. 398 00:21:47,550 --> 00:21:48,450 Adam Curry: So let's go there. We 399 00:21:48,450 --> 00:21:50,160 John C Dvorak: have the Austin shootings. 400 00:21:51,810 --> 00:21:53,820 Adam Curry: The Austin shootings. Yes. 401 00:21:53,820 --> 00:21:56,190 John C Dvorak: When I said that's what I said when I was 402 00:21:56,190 --> 00:21:56,400 just 403 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,550 Adam Curry: shooting every day in Austin is nothing new. Well, 404 00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:00,690 this is is 405 00:22:00,690 --> 00:22:03,360 John C Dvorak: the NBC report on the I have a clip. Oh, okay. 406 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,800 Okay. It's in clay show. 407 00:22:04,830 --> 00:22:06,990 Unknown: We have information coming from two different police 408 00:22:06,990 --> 00:22:09,600 agencies that are involved the bear County Sheriff's Department 409 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,200 and also the Austin Police. So we have a timeline of what 410 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,540 happened. According to police. It's all started yesterday 411 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:20,640 morning just before 11am When they say the suspect shot and 412 00:22:20,970 --> 00:22:24,150 Austin Independent School District Police officer and then 413 00:22:24,150 --> 00:22:27,930 about an hour after that police say they received 911 calls at 414 00:22:27,930 --> 00:22:31,050 an address in Austin. The officers arrived at that address 415 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,800 and found a double homicide it just sees male and female. Then 416 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,130 about five hours after that a cyclist in a different part of 417 00:22:38,130 --> 00:22:42,450 Austin reported being shot and injured. Now two hours after 418 00:22:42,450 --> 00:22:45,870 that officers received or a police department received a 419 00:22:45,870 --> 00:22:49,950 call from a different address to which officers responded. That 420 00:22:49,950 --> 00:22:53,160 was a burglary in place being reported. The first officer that 421 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,000 responded at that second address said he found a suspect in the 422 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,630 backyard and the suspect then opened fire against that police 423 00:23:00,630 --> 00:23:04,230 officer. The officer returned fire but the suspect was able to 424 00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:08,820 flee, get in a vehicle and drive off. At that point. Officers 425 00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:12,030 were able to chase him down. He was in a car accident and then 426 00:23:12,030 --> 00:23:14,850 they were able to apprehend that suspect. The officer that was 427 00:23:14,850 --> 00:23:18,270 shot was then taken to a hospital while other officers 428 00:23:18,270 --> 00:23:21,930 entered that home and found two other people disease so a lot of 429 00:23:21,930 --> 00:23:25,230 events taking place. Now after this happened, the Austin Police 430 00:23:25,230 --> 00:23:28,230 Department contacted the bear sheriff's department saying they 431 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:30,870 had an address they wanted them to check on that was linked to 432 00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:34,080 the suspect deputies that went to that address now that was 433 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,720 south of Austin in the San Antonio area. That's why they 434 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,840 contacted the bear County Sheriff's Department. And those 435 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,780 deputies then found two more people to cease to be part of 436 00:23:42,780 --> 00:23:46,890 that third address. So in total it is six people dead all 437 00:23:46,890 --> 00:23:48,720 connected to this suspect Kate, 438 00:23:48,810 --> 00:23:50,580 Adam Curry: that sounds like a gang thing. 439 00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:54,270 John C Dvorak: Or yeah, it's definitely something like that. 440 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,910 I know more details that I know have not 441 00:23:56,910 --> 00:24:00,360 Adam Curry: heard about that. But you know, when when I first 442 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:03,480 moved to Austin, you'd hear about one shooting maybe every 443 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,800 six months. Yeah, by the time we left it was every day. 444 00:24:08,190 --> 00:24:11,730 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Every local government Yeah, defund the 445 00:24:11,730 --> 00:24:12,810 Adam Curry: police good god 446 00:24:12,810 --> 00:24:15,900 John C Dvorak: find the police put in some DA is not going to 447 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:18,060 do anything. And 448 00:24:19,470 --> 00:24:23,610 Adam Curry: you get so lady G Lind Lindy Hop, Lindsey Graham 449 00:24:23,790 --> 00:24:26,490 are in the news because of that Christopher rea thing with the 450 00:24:26,490 --> 00:24:30,510 red blinking lights but also, just before that from the same, 451 00:24:31,170 --> 00:24:38,280 the Senate session with with the FBI director. This short clip 452 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,340 showed up which everyone went Oh, no. Oh, what do you 453 00:24:42,540 --> 00:24:45,510 Unknown: think their votes for Israel apart from the package? 454 00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:48,900 Republicans overwhelmingly support Israel certain most 455 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:52,890 Democrats. Republicans are divided on Ukraine. Republicans 456 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,370 are 100% behind strong border security. If you want aid to 457 00:24:56,370 --> 00:25:00,420 Ukraine, we need to control our southern border. I will will not 458 00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:05,640 vote for any aid until we secure on border reform asylum reform. 459 00:25:05,850 --> 00:25:09,900 Reform parole is possible to do. Democrats don't want to do it 460 00:25:09,930 --> 00:25:12,600 all Republicans want to do it. I'm not helping you drain into 461 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,530 we have ourselves. 462 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,780 Adam Curry: That's literally the only clip everybody had 463 00:25:15,810 --> 00:25:19,140 everywhere on Twitter and every black the hill. Oh, no, what's 464 00:25:19,140 --> 00:25:25,230 happened? He's flip flopped. No. No, he has not. This is a scam. 465 00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:29,910 This is a scam to get $106 billion for the military 466 00:25:29,910 --> 00:25:35,310 industrial complex. Here's what went down. Here's two clips what 467 00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:38,610 Lindsey Graham actually said. And it's quite simple to see how 468 00:25:38,610 --> 00:25:43,620 this is a a unit party scam to get more money to the military 469 00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:45,150 industrial complex. Thank 470 00:25:45,150 --> 00:25:48,450 Unknown: you, Mr. Chairman. Welcome, Inspector, Inspector, 471 00:25:48,930 --> 00:25:49,530 Director, 472 00:25:49,770 --> 00:25:53,400 Adam Curry: I had to leave that he called Ray the inspector. So 473 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,580 Unknown: Mr. Chairman, one thing that I will be talking about. 474 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,650 Among the list of threats is a broken board. Mr. Chairman, 475 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,060 since President Biden has taken office, we've had 6.6 main 476 00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:12,180 encounters with illegal aliens at the southern border. that's 477 00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:18,990 larger than 33 states. And we're on pace. The last seven days, 478 00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:25,830 we've been averaging about 9500 a day, play that out, weigh that 479 00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:31,680 out looking at 3.4 million this year, at that rate, that poses 480 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,550 at 10 million, and that doesn't count the getaways. So we're 481 00:26:35,550 --> 00:26:40,650 negotiating how to help Ukraine, count me in for helping Ukraine 482 00:26:40,650 --> 00:26:45,510 a robust path to help our allies in Ukraine. Ukraine makes sense 483 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:49,410 to me. Upping the ability of Taiwan to defend itself. 484 00:26:50,430 --> 00:26:52,530 Adam Curry: Makes sense to me or mining Israel. 485 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,610 Unknown: All the sense in the world, all good. Border Security 486 00:26:56,610 --> 00:27:01,650 is the fourth plank of this supplemental. We're wildly 487 00:27:01,650 --> 00:27:02,160 apart. 488 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,220 Adam Curry: So they have a negotiation. And they're going 489 00:27:05,220 --> 00:27:09,210 to dress this up. They say you heard what what he wants Taiwan 490 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,740 money, good. Ukraine money, good. Pay for all money. Good. 491 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,120 But we have 610. I don't know how many millions coming into 492 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:21,570 the border. So let's shut down a tiny portion 493 00:27:21,570 --> 00:27:24,030 Unknown: of that the negotiations by Senator Lankford 494 00:27:24,030 --> 00:27:28,260 and Murphy, I appreciate their efforts. We made great progress, 495 00:27:28,260 --> 00:27:32,490 I think on asylum. But the Democratic party seems to be 496 00:27:32,490 --> 00:27:34,200 unwilling to address that 497 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,540 Adam Curry: notice, we made great progress on asylum. So 498 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,760 don't talk about asylum. That's all done. That's all good. Let's 499 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,040 talk about what we're really going to do to show the American 500 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,330 people we're fixing the border. 501 00:27:45,870 --> 00:27:50,460 Unknown: The key problem for all parole. This statute is pretty 502 00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:54,360 clear. The Secretary of DHS has the ability to parole an 503 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:59,490 individual is supposed to be an individual based on a case by 504 00:27:59,490 --> 00:28:03,990 case basis for urgent humanitarian reasons, or 505 00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:10,110 significant public benefit. My orcas and people at DHS abused 506 00:28:10,110 --> 00:28:16,110 that provision to give parole to over 240,000 people from poor 507 00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:21,990 countries alone, Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela. It is 508 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:26,040 not meant to be used in that fashion. Why are we at an 509 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,320 impasse? The Biden administration refuses to follow 510 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,460 the law as written, refuses to give up this concept of 511 00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:39,720 humanitarian parole, because it is their way of managing the 512 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,140 border. 513 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,500 Adam Curry: There you go. So what he's really talking about 514 00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:50,010 is 249,000 people out of 10 million. Don't worry, so he's 515 00:28:50,010 --> 00:28:53,370 making it look like he's big man. We know that Lindsey Graham 516 00:28:53,670 --> 00:28:58,410 is bought and paid for by the military industrial complex. 517 00:28:58,410 --> 00:29:03,120 Look at his state. look at why he always wins. It's so obvious. 518 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,040 Don't worry, we're gonna fight for this parole thing. Yeah, 519 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,350 we'll cut it down. We'll cut it down. I'm 520 00:29:10,350 --> 00:29:15,090 John C Dvorak: Lindsey Graham. 50 To 50 10,250,000 attend any 521 00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:15,690 literature 522 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,750 Adam Curry: we already got the asylum thing worked out police 523 00:29:18,780 --> 00:29:23,220 nothing's going to change this way. Nothing except we're gonna 524 00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:29,010 get the money for Israel on Taiwan. Crane. Sounds good. 106 525 00:29:29,010 --> 00:29:34,560 billion. Another 106 billion. I wonder how the how the people in 526 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,820 Chicago are feeling about that right now. Loving it. Did you 527 00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:42,990 Did you follow? I had clip after clip and then Chicago 528 00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:45,150 John C Dvorak: thing is, is great. Yeah, yeah. 529 00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:49,440 Adam Curry: So so. So they the Member It was the same company 530 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,590 that had the contracts. The mayor already had the contracts 531 00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:55,560 went around his city council. So we got a contract with the 532 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,190 busing company. They'll be they will build tents. So they start 533 00:29:59,190 --> 00:30:02,970 building tents. So, in this for 2000 people, but that's what 534 00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:06,540 they said would probably be more in these fenced off Chicago 535 00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:10,230 areas and then they do a ground sample. Oh, there's cancer in 536 00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:16,650 there. Keep building, keep keep building. Just keep building 537 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:19,170 it's fine. Don't worry about it. Yeah, well, that all came to a 538 00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:19,500 head 539 00:30:19,530 --> 00:30:22,380 Unknown: three Chicago aldermen, frustrated with Mayor Brandon 540 00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:25,260 Johnson's handling of the migrant crisis with several of 541 00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:29,160 his top officials gone. In this letter, Alderman Anthony Bill 542 00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:32,700 Anthony and Apollo Tonto and Raymond Lopez asked the mayor to 543 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:36,420 demand the immediate resignation of seven senior leaders, 544 00:30:36,510 --> 00:30:39,630 including the Deputy Mayor for migrant rights, and Johnson's 545 00:30:39,630 --> 00:30:43,350 Deputy Chief of Staff. Alderman Lopez says the tipping point was 546 00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:47,190 Brighton Park big point, the very notion that we have a team 547 00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:50,760 of individuals who saw no problem using a cancerous 548 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,960 brownfield to house 2000 Venezuelan migrants is 549 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,750 astonishing to me. It's astounding and it's really 550 00:30:57,750 --> 00:31:00,600 setting up not only this policy directed by the mayor for 551 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,510 failure, but also setting up the city for failure and future 552 00:31:03,510 --> 00:31:06,900 litigation. Yesterday, Governor Pritzker pulled the plug on the 553 00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:10,410 Johnson administration's plan to build a winterize migrant base 554 00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:13,800 camp and right in park after traces of toxic chemicals were 555 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,650 discovered at the site. Lopez and his colleagues say they're 556 00:31:16,650 --> 00:31:19,860 worried to other temporary housing locations might also be 557 00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:20,550 contaminated the 558 00:31:20,550 --> 00:31:23,640 John C Dvorak: whole area of chemicals Yeah, it's 559 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,770 Adam Curry: all it's I wonder if the people 560 00:31:25,770 --> 00:31:27,960 John C Dvorak: are these toxic chemicals come from and why are 561 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,050 they worried that they're in the first place? Well, we 562 00:31:31,050 --> 00:31:32,460 Adam Curry: don't know but Pino, 563 00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:34,380 John C Dvorak: they don't discuss any Oh, no 564 00:31:34,380 --> 00:31:36,300 Unknown: isn't locations. You know, they're 565 00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:37,800 John C Dvorak: trying to do the right thing. They're putting up 566 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,730 a shanty town. 567 00:31:39,210 --> 00:31:42,570 Adam Curry: They had the right idea. Yeah. But it's now they're 568 00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:44,610 all going to go into Hotel. Well, they Yeah, there'll be 569 00:31:44,610 --> 00:31:47,250 going to police station now. They're going to go into hotels, 570 00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:50,280 and other do airport. Yeah, maybe 571 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,010 Unknown: it'll be contaminated. How many more sites is the mayor 572 00:31:53,010 --> 00:31:56,460 going to use? Is his team going to use that are contaminated? 573 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,850 What do we know about 115 Can Halston. What do we know about 574 00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:03,360 the CVS and little village? Nothing. A spokesperson for 575 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,120 Mayor Johnson dismissed the letter saying this is not 576 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,270 serious correspondence. Yet the individuals that attacks are 577 00:32:09,270 --> 00:32:12,480 doing very serious work in addressing the urgency of a 578 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,080 humanitarian crisis that has brought nearly 25,000 new 579 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,040 arrivals to our city. This week administration defended itself 580 00:32:20,130 --> 00:32:23,760 noting that at the height of the challenge 5000 migrants flooded 581 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,670 police stations and airports. Today that number is roughly 582 00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:30,600 600. As for Brighton Park, the state is supposed to foot the 583 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,840 bill for construction work, but the contractor might have to eat 584 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,750 the cost now that the site has been found uninhabitable 585 00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:37,560 meanwhile, 586 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,900 Adam Curry: it's 14 degrees in Chicago. It's so obvious to see 587 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:47,040 this was coming. Close the border for real people. Come on, 588 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,360 stop using the word 589 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,240 John C Dvorak: keep shipping everyone to Chicago. Well 10 590 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,200 million people are 591 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,360 Adam Curry: going they're choosing to go to Chicago it's 592 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,950 not just that 10 million. It's not just Texas busing them off 593 00:32:58,980 --> 00:33:00,990 there's a lot of people that come in where do you want to go 594 00:33:00,990 --> 00:33:03,390 Chicago? Because they got people there? 595 00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:06,090 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well the more people are there it's like 596 00:33:06,090 --> 00:33:10,170 it's like it kind of it builds momentum again, but everyone got 597 00:33:10,170 --> 00:33:12,360 wanting to go to Chicago because that's where their friends are. 598 00:33:12,540 --> 00:33:12,930 Yeah, 599 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,180 Adam Curry: I was talking to the shoeshine guy at the 600 00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:18,840 Indianapolis Airport. We were having your shoe shine my boots 601 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,440 Yes. Oh, I love that. I love to wearing your Texas 602 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,360 John C Dvorak: boots you not wearing sneakers like every 603 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,250 other person in the world? No, 604 00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:28,290 Adam Curry: I wear my boots pretty much all the time. 605 00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:32,790 John C Dvorak: Well, okay, so what did the guy tell you? 606 00:33:33,540 --> 00:33:37,080 Adam Curry: Well, he he wouldn't he could come in from Liberia. 607 00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:43,830 And he Liberian shoeshine guy and he he owned beyond two 608 00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:47,400 shoeshine stands in the airport. His son was working the the 609 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,540 other terminal. He was in BS on his MA. And he was telling me 610 00:33:51,540 --> 00:33:54,690 same things, you know, how did you wind up here said while like 611 00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:58,440 everybody, you know, I had some I had someone who was from 612 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,050 Liberia. I knew who was here and they said hey, man, I got a good 613 00:34:01,050 --> 00:34:05,460 gig for you come on over. It was 19 years ago, but still he says 614 00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:07,860 you know that's how it works. Where do you got a friend Where 615 00:34:07,860 --> 00:34:12,990 do you have some some family then? And if they got a thing 616 00:34:12,990 --> 00:34:17,730 going on those go it's all for work. It's all for work. He was 617 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:20,250 he was real happy to be here. He's an American. Now of course. 618 00:34:20,700 --> 00:34:24,960 He was very happy to be here. And a great shot. I hope so. 15 619 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,720 box waking get a shoeshine for 15 bucks. That's very 620 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:36,690 inexpensive. I wouldn't know you don't get you wear crocs. 621 00:34:37,170 --> 00:34:38,940 John C Dvorak: I don't wear crocs at all things. 622 00:34:38,970 --> 00:34:41,040 Adam Curry: You wear Speedos that look like crocs. 623 00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:43,320 John C Dvorak: I don't wear Speedos. I don't even know they 624 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,370 make shoes. What is the shoes? You had that look like crocs? I 625 00:34:47,370 --> 00:34:50,670 never had shoes that look like Kroc. What were the shoes you 626 00:34:50,670 --> 00:34:55,740 had that were like plastic. I've never had a plastic shoe. Okay, 627 00:34:55,980 --> 00:34:59,250 you're dreaming. I don't know what kind of nightmares you have 628 00:34:59,250 --> 00:35:03,510 at night. But that Guess you want to see me walking around in 629 00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:06,450 a plastic shoe? That has to be something that 630 00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:09,570 Adam Curry: made me it's because I was listening to DH unplugged. 631 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:12,780 And you guys are always talking about it. Oh, he's a crocs nut. 632 00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:14,490 It's in my subconscious now. 633 00:35:16,890 --> 00:35:20,310 John C Dvorak: The big crux fanatic, the chroming he talks 634 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:24,180 crocs he invests in crocs. He wears crocs as maybe he was 635 00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:26,820 about crocs all the time. He says he has a pair of crocs that 636 00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:29,520 he's had for 30 years and they've, they've never failed 637 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,000 them. And, 638 00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:34,140 Adam Curry: you know, the story behind crocs the success story, 639 00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:39,960 no, no, when the movie, Idiocracy was being shot, so 640 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,090 this is now what, 25 years ago, maybe longer. They were looking 641 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,460 the production or the art director or the production 642 00:35:47,490 --> 00:35:52,470 manager was almost looking for futuristic shoes. And the woman 643 00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:56,910 came to the director, whatever, you're famous guy, director, and 644 00:35:56,910 --> 00:35:59,640 he said, I've got these phenomenal shoes, they're going 645 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,760 to be great because no one will ever wear these things. They're 646 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,910 so ugly, it'll look like it's from that crazy future. And that 647 00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:09,210 was crocs, and that was their big. I've never heard that 648 00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:13,470 story. Yeah, yeah, that was their big break. Now, crocs, 649 00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:17,280 crocs for the win. And now Justin Bieber has crocs he has 650 00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:20,250 crocs boots. Yeah, I 651 00:36:20,250 --> 00:36:21,960 John C Dvorak: think he's wearing crocodile boots. 652 00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:26,310 Adam Curry: Now. He's got Croc crocs. Sure. Yeah. Like Gucci 653 00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:28,890 Croc has all kinds of stocks. Crocs, crocs. 654 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,570 John C Dvorak: I want to play the hearing with Stefanik. 655 00:36:34,170 --> 00:36:37,470 Grilling the presidents of the three universities. 656 00:36:37,470 --> 00:36:39,270 Adam Curry: This was fantastic. 657 00:36:40,770 --> 00:36:46,710 John C Dvorak: And Liz McGill's Penn State apology tour later 24 658 00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:48,240 hours? No, I 659 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:49,620 Adam Curry: didn't hear that. I 660 00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:52,590 John C Dvorak: have that too. Well, but go you go. So here we 661 00:36:52,590 --> 00:36:56,700 go. This is the next hearing and I set it up, set it up. I'm 662 00:36:56,700 --> 00:37:00,540 gonna get them doing that as as you're telling me to set it up. 663 00:37:00,540 --> 00:37:04,830 I'm actually setting it up to the house, which shouldn't be 664 00:37:04,830 --> 00:37:08,760 the house on American Activities Committee. DeVore 665 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:14,160 x.substack.com. Read about it. It shouldn't be that but no, it 666 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:19,590 was a committee on on, on anti semitism in the universities. 667 00:37:19,590 --> 00:37:23,400 And they, and they've got the president. It's all females. 668 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,360 Interestingly enough, the president of Harvard, the 669 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,120 president of MIT and the president of Penn State, and 670 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,660 they go through them one by one. And Stefanik, who is a very 671 00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:39,780 interesting new kind of a fiery congresswoman from District 21 672 00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:44,850 of New York, Republican. She's going after him. And then she 673 00:37:44,910 --> 00:37:49,770 catches a kind of a, an interesting little theme where 674 00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:53,220 they can't and they all kind of answer the same way. Yeah, they 675 00:37:53,220 --> 00:37:56,820 all say in context is that is the key words. But she catches 676 00:37:56,820 --> 00:38:00,300 the fact that none of them can say yes, to a very simple 677 00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:04,290 question that if any one of them just said yeah, yes. And they'd 678 00:38:04,290 --> 00:38:07,830 be passed over, I'd be fine. But now all three of them are likely 679 00:38:07,830 --> 00:38:11,880 to get fired. Especially the Penn State woman who blew it the 680 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:17,190 most, or let's start. She's just crazy. But let's you hear it 681 00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:19,500 when you when you go through. It's unfortunate. I feel I 682 00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:23,160 apologize for the phonics, popping her piece into the mic 683 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,170 constantly. But here we go, 684 00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:29,130 Unknown: does em at MIT, does calling for the genocide of Jews 685 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,630 violate MIT's code of conduct or rules regarding bullying and 686 00:38:33,630 --> 00:38:35,460 harassment? Yes, or no way before? 687 00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:39,270 Adam Curry: Before we get to that? When it comes to the First 688 00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:47,430 Amendment? I would say calling for the genocide of anybody. Is 689 00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:51,060 is that permissible? Or is that not permissible? 690 00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:55,020 John C Dvorak: is permissible by the government, by Constitution 691 00:38:55,020 --> 00:38:58,470 by the constant if you're running a university University, 692 00:38:58,470 --> 00:39:01,530 you can have your own rules or regulations regarding what was 693 00:39:01,650 --> 00:39:05,970 speech can be, you know about stuff like that? I mean, you 694 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,270 there has to be a limit at some point you can't say, and like 695 00:39:09,330 --> 00:39:12,270 the right wing talk show, guys. Also, what if it was about the 696 00:39:12,270 --> 00:39:15,540 genocide of all black people? Would they've reacted the same 697 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,700 TQ or allergy all gays? Yeah, it would have been, but no, it was 698 00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:24,240 Adam Curry: not. Second question. If you said I call for 699 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:27,450 the killing of John C. Dvorak. Is that permissible under the 700 00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:28,230 First Amendment? 701 00:39:28,290 --> 00:39:31,530 John C Dvorak: I think it's a threat. Right? Okay. But a 702 00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:33,510 jealousy guy could sue you or something 703 00:39:33,570 --> 00:39:36,600 Adam Curry: or you can be arrested. But a genocide is not 704 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,470 the same threat. 705 00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:41,430 John C Dvorak: genocides. It is very It seems to me to be the 706 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:44,940 same genocide Do you want to kill all people of this group? 707 00:39:44,940 --> 00:39:45,090 So 708 00:39:45,090 --> 00:39:47,010 Adam Curry: you should not be able to say it by the First 709 00:39:47,010 --> 00:39:47,580 Amendment? 710 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,200 John C Dvorak: You Yeah, I think she This is where these guys got 711 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,370 into trouble. Yeah. They kept thinking first amendment as 712 00:39:56,370 --> 00:39:58,920 well. You could you should be able to say anything you want 713 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,330 including it Think there's a fire in the theater. And that's 714 00:40:03,330 --> 00:40:06,900 the one thing you can't say I this is not in the Constitution 715 00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:10,710 that you can't. That's just a kind of a generally accepted 716 00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:13,140 rule. Yeah, there's a lot of things that are just generally 717 00:40:13,140 --> 00:40:16,710 accepted as you can't say these things. And this is one of them. 718 00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:20,250 And all you have to do is say can you do as she asked the same 719 00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:24,660 question you just say yes, you just no good yeah, you're even 720 00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:28,110 get carry with her. I think it's deplorable, that anyone would 721 00:40:28,110 --> 00:40:32,340 even think such a thing, let alone say it. Done. Now, you 722 00:40:32,340 --> 00:40:33,930 Adam Curry: could have said yes, you can say it, but it's 723 00:40:33,930 --> 00:40:35,610 horrible and deplorable. That's what 724 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,470 John C Dvorak: that's what you can do anything. You could do 725 00:40:37,470 --> 00:40:41,340 anything. But what they did, what they did was, well, I don't 726 00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:43,140 know. Let's listen 727 00:40:43,170 --> 00:40:46,920 Unknown: does em at MIT. Does calling for the genocide of Jews 728 00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:51,360 violate MIT's code of conduct or own rules regarding bullying, 729 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,900 harassment, yes or no? If targeted at individuals not 730 00:40:55,110 --> 00:40:59,310 making public statements? Yes or no? Calling for the genocide of 731 00:40:59,310 --> 00:41:02,250 Jews does not constitute bullying and harassment. I have 732 00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:05,340 not heard calling for the genocide for Jews on our campus. 733 00:41:05,340 --> 00:41:08,340 But you've heard chants for Intifada, I've heard chants, 734 00:41:08,370 --> 00:41:11,880 which can be anti semitic depending on the context when 735 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,580 calling for the elimination of the Jewish people. So those 736 00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:17,940 would not be according to the MIT's code of conduct or rules 737 00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:22,740 that would be investigated of as harassment if pervasive and 738 00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:23,280 severe. 739 00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:29,010 Ms. McGill at Penn. Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate 740 00:41:29,010 --> 00:41:32,220 Penn's rules or code of conduct? Yes or No. 741 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,970 If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment. 742 00:41:36,570 --> 00:41:41,910 Adam Curry: If the speech turns into conduct. Why Why could they 743 00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:45,420 not just answer the question? What is going on? What were they 744 00:41:45,420 --> 00:41:45,840 afraid? 745 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,300 John C Dvorak: Here's what I have a theory. Okay. Because 746 00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:52,260 they all say context, especially the Harvard Woman Yeah, the 747 00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:55,470 Harvard one was one of the worst but this woman here just blew it 748 00:41:55,470 --> 00:42:00,600 every which way. And I she has a rebuttal. But I think the three 749 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,510 of them because they're all you know, either. were the top 750 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:10,470 three. Ivy League's with Ivy where they were the cat's meow. 751 00:42:10,770 --> 00:42:12,690 So they got together. Oh, 752 00:42:12,690 --> 00:42:14,610 Adam Curry: yeah, we're all answering it the same way 753 00:42:14,610 --> 00:42:18,540 because you know, screw these. Screw this Republican. Yeah, 754 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:18,930 yeah. 755 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,940 John C Dvorak: They I'm sure they agreed on because they 756 00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:25,320 think this idea of what depends on the context keeps cropping 757 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,650 up. And this one and this one, though, is the worst of the 758 00:42:28,650 --> 00:42:32,310 three in terms of her saying, Well, unless they start genocide 759 00:42:32,310 --> 00:42:33,690 thing is no big deal, 760 00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:35,760 Adam Curry: unless they start actually genocide. And it's 761 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,720 okay. Yes, 762 00:42:36,750 --> 00:42:39,720 Unknown: I am asking, specifically calling for the 763 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:43,350 genocide of Jews. does that constitute bullying or 764 00:42:43,350 --> 00:42:44,730 harassment? If 765 00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:48,540 it is directed and severe or pervasive? It is harassment. So 766 00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:52,290 the answer is yes. It is a context dependent decision. 767 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:52,950 Congresswoman, 768 00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:55,860 it's a context dependent decision. That's your testimony 769 00:42:55,860 --> 00:42:59,010 today, calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the 770 00:42:59,010 --> 00:43:03,930 context, that is not bullying or harassment. This is the easiest 771 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,950 question to answer. Yes, Miss McGill. So is your testimony 772 00:43:07,950 --> 00:43:10,380 that you will not answer yes. If it 773 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,860 is if the if the speech becomes conduct. It can be harassment, 774 00:43:16,890 --> 00:43:21,750 yes, conduct meaning committing the act of genocide. The speech 775 00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:24,870 is not harassment. This is unacceptable. Miss Miguel, I'm 776 00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:28,170 gonna give you one more opportunity for the world to see 777 00:43:28,170 --> 00:43:32,040 your answer. No. And podcasts calling for the genocide of Jews 778 00:43:32,190 --> 00:43:36,450 violate pens, Code of Conduct when it comes to bullying and 779 00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:38,160 harassment? Yes or no? 780 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,320 It can be harassment? 781 00:43:40,590 --> 00:43:42,480 The answer is yes. 782 00:43:42,810 --> 00:43:46,680 Adam Curry: So clearly, they're so afraid. Here's what I think. 783 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,490 They're so afraid to piss off the protesting students that 784 00:43:50,490 --> 00:43:54,510 they'll get lynched and lose everything I that's what's going 785 00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:55,890 on here, where 786 00:43:56,940 --> 00:44:00,360 John C Dvorak: that element does exist. But the thing that I know 787 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,440 they had to get together because each of the three uses context, 788 00:44:04,830 --> 00:44:05,130 it's all 789 00:44:05,130 --> 00:44:08,010 Adam Curry: the same, of course, but that's because over because 790 00:44:08,010 --> 00:44:11,520 they have to have a front because all of the children at 791 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,670 the schools are out there protesting against genocide, 792 00:44:14,670 --> 00:44:15,330 Joe, 793 00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:19,140 John C Dvorak: both they have, I don't think this to be I don't 794 00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:22,050 know where they're coming from in terms of their reality 795 00:44:22,050 --> 00:44:27,480 checks. But it seems to me that if they just said yes, they can 796 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,270 be done with it. No, and the students would care. I don't 797 00:44:30,270 --> 00:44:33,330 think his students even know this was going on, let alone go 798 00:44:33,330 --> 00:44:34,920 after him. No, 799 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,630 Adam Curry: of course not. But these students don't know 800 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:40,500 anything, either. It's the political factions that are 801 00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:43,350 activating them. It's the socialist groups that are 802 00:44:43,350 --> 00:44:47,760 activating them. And that have been that they've been taught 803 00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:54,810 for decades, about colonialism. This is this is this is the the 804 00:44:54,810 --> 00:44:59,550 epitome of colonialism in their minds. This is what's going on 805 00:44:59,580 --> 00:45:05,190 that Deep before we continue, the White House interns have 806 00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:08,310 written a letter to the president demanding a Middle 807 00:45:08,310 --> 00:45:13,020 East ceasefire. The interns? Yeah, 808 00:45:13,050 --> 00:45:14,400 John C Dvorak: that's really bad. 809 00:45:14,820 --> 00:45:18,900 Adam Curry: I mean, to be to be an intern in the White House is 810 00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:26,040 a big deal. And they wrote, We the undersigned fall 2023 White 811 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,010 House and executive office of the president interns will no 812 00:45:29,010 --> 00:45:32,880 longer remain silent on the ongoing genocide of the 813 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,050 Palestinian people. We are Palestinians Jewish, Arab, 814 00:45:37,050 --> 00:45:43,110 Muslim, Christian, Black, Asian, Latina, Latina, white and queer. 815 00:45:45,420 --> 00:45:48,210 We need the voices of the American people and call on the 816 00:45:48,210 --> 00:45:50,700 administration to demand a permanent ceasefire. We are not 817 00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:53,940 the decision makers of today but we aspire to be the leaders of 818 00:45:53,940 --> 00:45:58,140 tomorrow. We will never forget how the pleas of the American 819 00:45:58,140 --> 00:46:04,620 people have been not have been heard and thus far ignored. So 820 00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:11,400 that's bad when your own interns the unpaid help who are there to 821 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:17,640 get a good mark for now this was a you were a good intern. Dude, 822 00:46:18,270 --> 00:46:21,510 this is this is this. It's beautiful to watch because the 823 00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:24,390 whole thing is backfiring. Everything. 824 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,210 John C Dvorak: It's hilarious, I think 825 00:46:27,210 --> 00:46:29,400 Adam Curry: is quite okay. What's the third one? Is that 826 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:29,820 the 827 00:46:29,970 --> 00:46:32,700 John C Dvorak: third one we go into the NBA, we finally finish 828 00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:34,200 it off with the Harvard woman 829 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,270 Unknown: and Dr. Gay at Harvard. is calling for the genocide of 830 00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:43,110 Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment? Yes or 831 00:46:43,110 --> 00:46:43,710 no? 832 00:46:43,890 --> 00:46:47,490 It can be depending on the context. What's the context 833 00:46:47,820 --> 00:46:51,210 targeted as an individual targeted as at an individual? 834 00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:52,110 It's targeted 835 00:46:52,110 --> 00:46:56,100 at Jewish students, Jewish individuals? Do you understand 836 00:46:56,100 --> 00:47:00,090 your testimony is dehumanizing them? No. Do you understand that 837 00:47:00,090 --> 00:47:04,260 dehumanization is part of anti semitism? I will ask you one 838 00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:09,180 more time. Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate 839 00:47:09,180 --> 00:47:12,960 Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment? Yes or no? 840 00:47:13,410 --> 00:47:17,370 anti semitic rhetoric? When is it anti semitic rhetoric, anti 841 00:47:17,370 --> 00:47:20,970 semitic rhetoric when it crosses into conduct conduct amounts to 842 00:47:20,970 --> 00:47:25,020 bullying, harassment, intimidation, just 843 00:47:25,050 --> 00:47:28,140 Adam Curry: for for our deconstruction when it crosses 844 00:47:28,170 --> 00:47:31,560 into conduct that means that you actually start genocide in Jews? 845 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,810 Is that what she means by that? Yes, what 846 00:47:33,810 --> 00:47:35,670 John C Dvorak: the Penn State woman said and 847 00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:38,280 Adam Curry: then when you when you start genocide in Jews, then 848 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,210 it's harassment and bullying. Got it? Got it. I gotta hear 849 00:47:42,210 --> 00:47:47,760 that again. So when it crosses into conduct ie making good on 850 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,720 your threats, then is bullying pay you got to stop genocide in 851 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:52,470 the Jews bro. 852 00:47:52,530 --> 00:47:55,200 Unknown: anti semitic rhetoric. When is it anti semitic 853 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,100 rhetoric, anti semitic rhetoric when it crosses into conduct 854 00:47:59,460 --> 00:48:04,170 that amounts to bullying, harassment, intimidation, that 855 00:48:04,170 --> 00:48:06,930 is actionable conduct, and we do take action. 856 00:48:07,410 --> 00:48:11,970 So the answer is yes. That calling for the genocide of Jews 857 00:48:12,330 --> 00:48:14,970 violates Harvard code of conduct, correct. 858 00:48:15,570 --> 00:48:16,230 Again, 859 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,890 it depends on the context. It does not depend on the context. 860 00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:23,430 The answer is yes. And this is why you should resign. These are 861 00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:25,800 unacceptable answers across the board. 862 00:48:27,330 --> 00:48:30,000 Adam Curry: Oh, that was almost as good as John Kerry's fart 863 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:30,690 video, whichever 864 00:48:30,690 --> 00:48:32,700 John C Dvorak: one was. That's going around. 865 00:48:35,310 --> 00:48:38,520 Adam Curry: Carry far too. Good goodness. So 866 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,950 John C Dvorak: let's go. The last clip in this series is Liz 867 00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:44,880 McGill. Yes. And she the other two women didn't do this. They 868 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,200 sent out press releases saying well I think was misunderstood. 869 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:56,190 But Liz McGill goes on, on on social media and apologizes like 870 00:48:56,190 --> 00:49:00,960 an idiot. And I it's just like it makes no sense. You had your 871 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,190 chance to say yes, but no, you do this instead. There 872 00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:07,230 Unknown: was a moment during yesterday's congressional 873 00:49:07,230 --> 00:49:09,690 hearing on anti semitism. When I was shooting 874 00:49:09,690 --> 00:49:12,210 Adam Curry: her office on a webcam like thing. Is that what 875 00:49:12,210 --> 00:49:13,770 she's doing here? Yep. Just 876 00:49:13,770 --> 00:49:17,970 Unknown: asked if a call for the genocide of Jews che wastop. 877 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:20,850 John C Dvorak: I think what they should do if you get to do this 878 00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:21,930 be in your car. 879 00:49:25,230 --> 00:49:28,350 Adam Curry: We just keep it with a seatbelt on a driving as even 880 00:49:28,350 --> 00:49:29,850 funnier. Even 881 00:49:29,850 --> 00:49:32,880 Unknown: better the drive during yesterday's congressional 882 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,900 hearing on anti semitism when I was asked if a call for the 883 00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:41,190 genocide of Jewish people on our campus would violate our 884 00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:46,380 policies. In that moment, I was focused on our university's long 885 00:49:46,380 --> 00:49:50,910 standing policies aligned with the US Constitution, which say 886 00:49:50,910 --> 00:49:54,990 that speech alone is not punishable. I was not focused on 887 00:49:55,530 --> 00:49:59,520 but I should have been the irrefutable fact that a call for 888 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,940 genocide have Jewish people is a call for some of the most 889 00:50:02,940 --> 00:50:09,330 terrible violence, human beings can perpetrate? It's evil, plain 890 00:50:09,330 --> 00:50:15,210 and simple. I want to be clear, a call for genocide of Jewish 891 00:50:15,210 --> 00:50:20,700 people is threatening deeply. So it is intentionally meant to 892 00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:25,170 terrify people who have been subjected to pogroms and hatred 893 00:50:25,230 --> 00:50:30,210 for centuries. And were the victims of mass genocide in the 894 00:50:30,210 --> 00:50:35,160 Holocaust. In my view, it would be harassment or intimidation 895 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,410 for decades under multiple pen presidents and consistent with 896 00:50:40,410 --> 00:50:42,840 most universities, and readings 897 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:43,860 John C Dvorak: by the way, guys, yeah, she's 898 00:50:43,890 --> 00:50:46,470 Adam Curry: totally reading it. Yeah, he's reading this. Hill 899 00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:49,920 and Knowlton had to get called in for this one. Like writes up 900 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,060 mop man, I'm in trouble. 901 00:50:52,110 --> 00:50:54,780 Unknown: For decades under multiple pen presidents and 902 00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:58,140 consistent with most universities, Penn's policies 903 00:50:58,140 --> 00:51:01,350 have been guided by the Constitution and the law. In 904 00:51:01,350 --> 00:51:04,170 today's world, where we are seeing signs of hate 905 00:51:04,170 --> 00:51:07,740 proliferating across our campus and our world, in a way not seen 906 00:51:07,740 --> 00:51:13,320 in years, these policies need to be clarified and evaluated on 907 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,470 their use. Penn must initiate a serious and careful look at our 908 00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:20,070 policies. Okay. Plus Jackson and I will immediately convene a 909 00:51:20,070 --> 00:51:26,610 process to do so. As President I'm committed to a safe, secure 910 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,050 and supportive environment. So all members of our community can 911 00:51:31,050 --> 00:51:36,240 thrive. We can and we will get this right. Thank you. Alright, 912 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:41,220 Adam Curry: so here's how it went down. Liz, this is 913 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:48,360 Rosenberg. I got a problem with my donation this year. Come on. 914 00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:54,300 It's so phony. All phonies, the whole thing. Yeah, I love it. I 915 00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:58,020 love it. It's so cool to see all of this backfiring every single 916 00:51:58,020 --> 00:52:03,150 bit is just backfiring. I do have an NBC report. Let's see 917 00:52:03,150 --> 00:52:07,590 how NBC reported on the so you had the actual clips. This is 918 00:52:07,590 --> 00:52:08,100 the report 919 00:52:08,130 --> 00:52:10,800 Unknown: on Capitol Hill, the presidents of three top schools 920 00:52:10,830 --> 00:52:15,840 MIT UPenn and Harvard grilled over a spike in anti semitism on 921 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,470 their campuses. Your university is a hotbed of it hot at the 922 00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:22,710 center of the hearing tension over how to protect both student 923 00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:27,030 safety and free speech while combating anti semitism and 924 00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:28,920 Islamophobia. disagreements 925 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,580 about the conflict in the Middle East should never escalate to 926 00:52:32,580 --> 00:52:33,810 threats of violence 927 00:52:33,870 --> 00:52:36,570 coverage President was asked about pro Palestinian 928 00:52:36,570 --> 00:52:39,990 demonstrators calling for Intifada on her campus 929 00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:43,470 can you not see a code of conduct at Harvard, 930 00:52:43,530 --> 00:52:48,390 we embrace a commitment to free expression even a views that are 931 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:53,970 objectionable, offensive, hateful. It's when that speech 932 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,600 crosses into conduct that violates our policies. 933 00:52:57,660 --> 00:53:00,570 In recent weeks, a number of Jewish students had told NBC 934 00:53:00,570 --> 00:53:02,490 News they worry for their safety 935 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,270 why today a Jewish student is afraid to walk to the library at 936 00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:09,720 night. Congressman, let me start by saying I'm I'm devastated to 937 00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:14,280 hear that and the safety and security of our campus and our 938 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,280 students in particular as my top concern or three 939 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,040 presidents are facing criticism for their response to hate 940 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,390 rhetoric on campus. Each walked through new plans to combat anti 941 00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:27,720 semitism. staff here at UPenn say they've received anti 942 00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:31,050 semitic emails and hateful slogans were projected on 943 00:53:31,050 --> 00:53:34,470 buildings now there's additional security at religious centers 944 00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:36,690 and a new anti semitism task force. 945 00:53:36,690 --> 00:53:40,140 Adam Curry: Now notice what word was the what word was not used 946 00:53:40,140 --> 00:53:44,100 in that report? The word genocide they didn't put any of 947 00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:48,930 the actual hearing into that report. They really carefully 948 00:53:48,930 --> 00:53:51,840 left it out they put all that there was a big meeting about 949 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,560 that piece. Oh, no, we can't have that hard when you 950 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,190 John C Dvorak: can't Okay. This this is NBC big supporters of 951 00:53:59,190 --> 00:54:02,550 Biden you can use the word genocide because people will 952 00:54:02,550 --> 00:54:05,250 make it because you were still in good trying to get rid of 953 00:54:05,250 --> 00:54:09,600 this genocide Joe meme. Yep, yep. So it was not your this is 954 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,740 your media at work covering for the president phony phony 955 00:54:13,740 --> 00:54:16,410 baloney, it's unbelievably bad. So 956 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,520 Adam Curry: while we're on these children at schools, let's bring 957 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,240 in some transgenderism, some trans Maoist movement that's 958 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:28,500 going on because things are starting to become clearer and I 959 00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:34,530 am so happy for Cheryl Atkinson. She still has got the I think 960 00:54:34,530 --> 00:54:38,280 she has the career that Lauren Logan should have the oh she's 961 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,160 doing her own thing. She's agree 962 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,130 John C Dvorak: with that. I actually agree with that. Cheryl 963 00:54:44,130 --> 00:54:48,540 has done a fabulous job of she went over to Sinclair and gotta 964 00:54:48,540 --> 00:54:51,660 look. It's not the gig that she had by any means. Not even 965 00:54:51,660 --> 00:54:55,260 close. But she still gets to put out what you're good material. 966 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,500 Adam Curry: She puts out good material. I think she's making a 967 00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:01,380 little bit of money supplies like pod Cash level, you know, 968 00:55:01,410 --> 00:55:05,610 but that's okay. I think her husband works. It's all fine. 969 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:06,120 And she's, 970 00:55:06,450 --> 00:55:08,340 John C Dvorak: you know, she might even be making as much as 971 00:55:08,340 --> 00:55:12,960 she was a correspondent at CBS. That's not the big bucks. She 972 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,200 wasn't like an anchor or anybody who makes a lot of money. No, 973 00:55:16,350 --> 00:55:19,470 Adam Curry: but but she kept her integrity, integrity. She kept 974 00:55:19,470 --> 00:55:24,750 her integrity. She still has the same kind of look. You know, 975 00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:27,720 she's got that news. You know, like investigative reporter 976 00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:31,290 look, with the hair tied back all good stuff. The Look, she's 977 00:55:31,290 --> 00:55:36,750 got the look. And even though the editing is not superduper, I 978 00:55:36,750 --> 00:55:40,470 thought that this was an it's when you hear it will go out? 979 00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:43,530 Well, of course, this is no surprise. But she had the right 980 00:55:43,530 --> 00:55:48,030 people. She had the right information went to the exactly 981 00:55:48,030 --> 00:55:53,340 the right depth. And this was about the transgender lobby, and 982 00:55:53,340 --> 00:55:57,150 it explains exactly where everything is coming from. 983 00:55:57,180 --> 00:55:59,670 Unknown: We began with an investigation into the forces 984 00:55:59,670 --> 00:56:03,270 working to shape our information landscape when it comes to 985 00:56:03,330 --> 00:56:07,350 transgender policies. When an issue goes from zero to 60, 986 00:56:07,350 --> 00:56:10,890 practically overnight, grabbing headlines, political real estate 987 00:56:10,890 --> 00:56:14,340 and funding priorities. You can bet there's an invisible hand in 988 00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:17,880 play. Today, some of the surprising interests we found 989 00:56:17,970 --> 00:56:20,910 behind the well funded transgender lobby. 990 00:56:21,150 --> 00:56:24,420 Adam Curry: All right, so she had my attention from the get 991 00:56:24,420 --> 00:56:29,640 go. And surprise, surprise, this is not a grassroots movement as 992 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,700 everyone have you believe it's top down people 993 00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:36,720 Unknown: who think that this is a grassroots movement that is 994 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:40,350 giving rise to the transgender culture in the United States, 995 00:56:40,350 --> 00:56:44,070 this transgender moment that people say that we're having, do 996 00:56:44,070 --> 00:56:48,480 you not understand that this is more of a top down? dynamic that 997 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,620 is at play where you have really just a handful of organizations 998 00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:56,550 and LGBT advocacy organizations that are driving the agenda, but 999 00:56:56,550 --> 00:56:59,940 because they have such sway and such money, they're influencing 1000 00:56:59,940 --> 00:57:02,820 everything from schools, to politicians to corporate 1001 00:57:02,820 --> 00:57:03,390 America. 1002 00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:08,130 Adam Curry: All right. So there's three groups that that 1003 00:57:08,130 --> 00:57:11,160 this and this guy wrote a whole bunch that a lot of research on 1004 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,850 this. What do you think is the number one money influencer as 1005 00:57:14,850 --> 00:57:16,410 to this top down movement? 1006 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,470 John C Dvorak: Well, I know one of them is Pritzker. That's 1007 00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:23,580 Adam Curry: that comes into number two position. Who Soros 1008 00:57:23,610 --> 00:57:28,230 No no, no. Think much bigger. Who controls the media? 1009 00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:31,680 John C Dvorak: Disney. 1010 00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:36,510 Adam Curry: Who controls the media? Who controls 1011 00:57:36,510 --> 00:57:40,170 John C Dvorak: the media Pharma? Oh, Pharma. 1012 00:57:40,350 --> 00:57:42,060 Unknown: The name of the report that I wrote about this for the 1013 00:57:42,060 --> 00:57:44,220 American principles project is called the transgender 1014 00:57:44,220 --> 00:57:47,820 Leviathan. I chose that name on purpose for life and this 1015 00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:50,310 biblical monster that's just enormous. You can only ever 1016 00:57:50,310 --> 00:57:52,560 catch glimpses of the full size of it. Right. 1017 00:57:52,740 --> 00:57:56,820 So tell me what you've learned about the big forces behind the 1018 00:57:56,820 --> 00:57:58,050 funding? Yeah. 1019 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:04,920 So I think you can you can broadly, name three, which is 1020 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,910 pharmaceutical companies, liberal billionaires. And 1021 00:58:09,420 --> 00:58:12,780 ultimately, I think, to a growing extent the taxpayer. 1022 00:58:13,410 --> 00:58:16,590 When it comes to taxpayers, Gonzales points to studies the 1023 00:58:16,590 --> 00:58:20,010 government funds, like one promoting breast removal or 1024 00:58:20,010 --> 00:58:24,630 mastectomy is for young girls as part of a process to transition. 1025 00:58:25,110 --> 00:58:25,440 But 1026 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:30,510 I think the for larger and more pernicious problem is the 1027 00:58:30,510 --> 00:58:33,270 problem of the pharmaceutical companies are behind this stuff. 1028 00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:35,130 And there's so much. 1029 00:58:36,090 --> 00:58:39,420 One example is Lupron the drug most commonly used for 1030 00:58:39,420 --> 00:58:43,020 suppressing puberty. It's a first step under one model of 1031 00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:46,770 treating children who wished to be the opposite sex. 1032 00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:50,970 It's not FDA approved for use in transition therapy, right. It's 1033 00:58:50,970 --> 00:58:54,570 used to castrate the basically the most dangerous kinds of sex 1034 00:58:54,570 --> 00:58:57,360 offenders who just can't help themselves and are most likely 1035 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,450 to reoffending. So they give them Lupron to basically, 1036 00:59:00,870 --> 00:59:03,810 chemically castrate them. And now we're giving it to kids to 1037 00:59:03,810 --> 00:59:07,470 suppress the process of them going into puberty. 1038 00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:13,800 To injections reportedly costing as much as $73,000 Lutron Drew 1039 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,240 $2 billion worth of business last year for drugmaker advi. 1040 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:19,080 The 1041 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,920 Biden administration cited a study produced by a group called 1042 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,700 The Trevor Project. And Trevor Project is an LGBT advocacy 1043 00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:30,930 nonprofit. And basically, the Biden administration said like 1044 00:59:30,930 --> 00:59:34,740 this, this study from this nonpartisan nonprofit says that 1045 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,530 it's important for children to be able to have access to gender 1046 00:59:37,530 --> 00:59:41,490 affirming care, right. When you look at the funding of the 1047 00:59:41,490 --> 00:59:45,630 Trevor Project, what you'll see is that they actually received 1048 00:59:46,110 --> 00:59:49,950 $50,000 from Abby Foundation, the company that manufactures 1049 00:59:49,980 --> 00:59:50,130 Blue 1050 00:59:50,130 --> 00:59:54,180 Adam Curry: Cross, the I love it. The Trevor Project is Elton 1051 00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:59,790 John's in that and this is that's huge. So we know how the 1052 00:59:59,790 --> 01:00:04,110 farm Mystikal companies at least control what the media does or 1053 01:00:04,110 --> 01:00:08,760 does not say. So that will be kept away from the news or the 1054 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,590 media at all times. But now that was not so surprising to me. As 1055 01:00:13,590 --> 01:00:17,640 this next part, which explains so much, 1056 01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:20,130 Unknown: we found an even bigger medical money interests 1057 01:00:20,130 --> 01:00:24,090 surrounding the trans movement. It involves a little publicized 1058 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:30,330 but sad reality, the transgender HIV epidemic in seven major US 1059 01:00:30,330 --> 01:00:34,140 cities, more than 40% of transgenders are infected with 1060 01:00:34,170 --> 01:00:38,610 HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, the rate is even higher among 1061 01:00:38,610 --> 01:00:44,700 transgender blacks, most of them 62% are HIV positive, according 1062 01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:49,650 to the CDC survey. That adds up to a lucrative market for 1063 01:00:49,650 --> 01:00:53,610 businesses like Gilead Sciences, a pharmaceutical company that 1064 01:00:53,610 --> 01:00:59,190 developed 11 HIV medications now on the market, earning over $1.5 1065 01:00:59,220 --> 01:01:05,100 billion a month month. And Gilead happens to be the single 1066 01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:09,210 biggest known funder of the trans agenda within $6 million 1067 01:01:09,630 --> 01:01:14,670 in 2017, and 2018. Gilead says its goal is to support 1068 01:01:14,670 --> 01:01:17,370 communities that are disproportionately impacted by 1069 01:01:17,370 --> 01:01:20,910 diseases aligned with our therapeutic areas of focus. But 1070 01:01:20,910 --> 01:01:25,230 wait, there's more. The number two funder of trans causes at 1071 01:01:25,230 --> 01:01:30,660 4.8 million over two years is Arcus foundation. Argus is a 1072 01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:34,440 nonprofit associated with billionaire John Stryker, heir 1073 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,860 to the Stryker Corporation, medical technology company 1074 01:01:37,860 --> 01:01:41,820 fortune and a driver of gender identity, ideology and 1075 01:01:41,820 --> 01:01:48,570 transgenderism across the globe. Third, $4.6 million is to Wani 1076 01:01:48,570 --> 01:01:52,680 Foundation, associated with a billionaire Pritzker Family, and 1077 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:57,810 James Now Jennifer Pritzker of the Hyatt Hotels fortune to one 1078 01:01:57,810 --> 01:02:02,100 he has large medical investments and funds causes that normalized 1079 01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:06,810 transgenderism and a broad spectrum of identities. And 1080 01:02:06,810 --> 01:02:10,440 number four among top donors to trans interest is Gill 1081 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,430 foundation at $3.1 million associated with American 1082 01:02:14,430 --> 01:02:18,630 software magnate and gay activist Tim Gill, is the single 1083 01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:22,200 largest known donor to gay causes and a half billion 1084 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,670 dollars total. So 1085 01:02:23,670 --> 01:02:26,970 Adam Curry: the way I read this report or hear this report, is 1086 01:02:26,970 --> 01:02:31,890 we need more transgender folk to get HIV to sell our medications 1087 01:02:31,890 --> 01:02:36,480 to if they're all in it, and they all have these these 1088 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,670 companies that sell crap. 1089 01:02:40,830 --> 01:02:44,190 John C Dvorak: The marketing taken to the extreme Oh, and 1090 01:02:44,190 --> 01:02:46,590 then just marketing without conscience, 1091 01:02:46,650 --> 01:02:50,730 Adam Curry: who I mean, so pay I'll become a check. My name is 1092 01:02:50,730 --> 01:02:59,280 Pritzker. I'm Jen. Good to go. People are disturbed, and Cheryl 1093 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,600 Durbin and rich. Well, that goes hand in hand sometimes, Cheryl 1094 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,540 Atkinson will now wrap it up because of course this money 1095 01:03:06,540 --> 01:03:10,170 buys you everything you want, including education and 1096 01:03:10,170 --> 01:03:14,100 Unknown: money from a handful of sources, seeds 1000s of groups 1097 01:03:14,130 --> 01:03:17,340 reaching into policies and practices in government and 1098 01:03:17,340 --> 01:03:21,090 education, and corporations, universities, doctors, 1099 01:03:21,090 --> 01:03:24,360 associations, hospitals, insurance companies, media 1100 01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:29,070 outlets, journalism groups, and more. Top recipients of the 1101 01:03:29,070 --> 01:03:33,540 trans targeted money include the University of Minnesota, home to 1102 01:03:33,540 --> 01:03:37,560 Gender and Sexuality Center for queer and trans life. Another 1103 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,160 top beneficiary is Annenberg Center for Health Sciences at 1104 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:45,540 Eisenhower. It sponsors programs like this one for health care 1105 01:03:45,540 --> 01:03:46,590 professionals. 1106 01:03:46,830 --> 01:03:48,150 Hello, and welcome to 1107 01:03:48,150 --> 01:03:51,600 the Elevate webinars series on creating a gender affirming 1108 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,830 healthcare environment for optimal HIV care. Funding for 1109 01:03:55,830 --> 01:04:00,330 transgender causes continues to hit new highs each year, by one 1110 01:04:00,330 --> 01:04:05,610 analysis, the top 10 foundations that give the most made up 55% 1111 01:04:05,610 --> 01:04:09,480 of the funding. In the end, the explosion and transgender 1112 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,110 influence of society and politics can largely be traced 1113 01:04:13,110 --> 01:04:15,570 to a handful of powerful interests. 1114 01:04:15,930 --> 01:04:20,070 Adam Curry: There you go. And of course, stopping advertising of 1115 01:04:20,070 --> 01:04:23,160 pharmaceutical products directly to consumers on television would 1116 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:24,540 help a lot of this. 1117 01:04:25,410 --> 01:04:27,780 John C Dvorak: Yeah, help prevent it. And by the way, this 1118 01:04:27,780 --> 01:04:30,510 is the kind of report that you would have seen on the show 60 1119 01:04:30,510 --> 01:04:32,490 minutes about 15 or 20 years ago 1120 01:04:32,490 --> 01:04:34,410 Adam Curry: longer. I don't even think to do that now. 1121 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,480 John C Dvorak: 60 No, they 1122 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,310 Adam Curry: don't do it. Now. You know what 60 minutes is 1123 01:04:38,310 --> 01:04:42,060 doing now they're doing native ads for IBM for their quads. 1124 01:04:42,210 --> 01:04:43,440 Computer shows. 1125 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,510 John C Dvorak: The show is unwatchable. Yeah. 1126 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,730 Adam Curry: Yeah, the quantum computer or IBM is that we don't 1127 01:04:50,730 --> 01:04:55,470 have we don't have an AI play. So we got to do quantum. But 1128 01:04:55,470 --> 01:05:00,750 this is their watch, but this is right. This is a horrible, 1129 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,470 horrible they don't care about the children. They've completely 1130 01:05:04,470 --> 01:05:12,150 captured parents who are dumb now it's called Trans housing by 1131 01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:18,300 proxy. Who are narcissistic Cluster B personality disorder? 1132 01:05:19,170 --> 01:05:23,370 Who were who and I say that with love and understanding because 1133 01:05:23,370 --> 01:05:29,460 they were traumatized Munchausen this is now an accepted term 1134 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:34,050 trans housing by bipolar trans housing. Yes, it went from 1135 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,230 Munchausen by proxy to trans housing by proxy. It is 1136 01:05:37,230 --> 01:05:43,140 apparently an accepted term in the hate is the epic times the 1137 01:05:43,140 --> 01:05:47,940 epoch, Epoch Times. Parents personality disorders driving 1138 01:05:47,940 --> 01:05:54,780 surge in trans kids. The it's true, it's I mean, of course, 1139 01:05:54,780 --> 01:05:56,790 there are people with gender dysphoria there have always been 1140 01:05:56,790 --> 01:06:00,900 people with gender dysphoria. But this move to 30% of kids 1141 01:06:00,900 --> 01:06:06,330 saying, Oh yeah, I'm non binary I'm in February Jamie Reid, 1142 01:06:06,330 --> 01:06:08,550 former case manager at the Washington University for 1143 01:06:08,550 --> 01:06:11,610 transgender Center at St. Louis Children's Hospital, exposed 1144 01:06:11,610 --> 01:06:13,380 practice at the clinic and describe parents who were 1145 01:06:13,380 --> 01:06:16,260 adamant about transitioning their children. Her revelations 1146 01:06:16,260 --> 01:06:19,110 became the catalyst for Missouri lawmakers to draft a law barring 1147 01:06:19,110 --> 01:06:23,730 hormone therapy. And this is where they coined the phrase 1148 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:28,350 trans hate. Yes, Trent, trans housing by proxy. But it's 1149 01:06:28,350 --> 01:06:33,420 narcissism by many of these. It's the same thing as was, you 1150 01:06:33,420 --> 01:06:36,570 know, you get some Hollywood celebrities to start to kick off 1151 01:06:36,570 --> 01:06:49,620 the GPL. One mania, the ozempic You know, and then everyone 1152 01:06:49,620 --> 01:06:52,890 follows it's, it's the advertising is the problem. 1153 01:06:53,940 --> 01:06:58,080 That's the biggest problem. We could stop so much by just 1154 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:03,030 stopping that. And while we're on it, 1155 01:07:03,930 --> 01:07:05,910 John C Dvorak: well, that was depressing. Well, 1156 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,120 Adam Curry: I'll lift your spirits with some crazy stuff 1157 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:17,100 here. They there is such a push to get these semaglutide drugs 1158 01:07:17,130 --> 01:07:26,310 into the Medicare package and forced forced insurance that 1159 01:07:26,310 --> 01:07:30,030 they are just dead just rolling out everything they can. It 1160 01:07:30,030 --> 01:07:33,420 helps you lose weight. But wait, let's bring on George 1161 01:07:33,420 --> 01:07:40,380 Stephanopoulos. This is Good Morning America. And these are 1162 01:07:40,380 --> 01:07:43,860 people who take themselves very seriously. Listen to the crap 1163 01:07:43,860 --> 01:07:44,490 they are doing 1164 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,490 Unknown: that a new research on ozempic and alcohol. It finds 1165 01:07:47,490 --> 01:07:49,470 that the weight loss drug may also help prevent alcohol 1166 01:07:49,470 --> 01:07:52,710 overuse and abuse Dr. Jenn Ashman is standing by first to 1167 01:07:52,710 --> 01:07:53,880 Russia has the details. 1168 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,240 Adam Curry: No, I'm alcoholic abuse. It helps what 1169 01:07:58,170 --> 01:08:00,480 Unknown: I have noticed everything drink wine anymore. 1170 01:08:00,540 --> 01:08:04,770 And it's it's That's crazy to me, because I couldn't stop 1171 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:05,220 before 1172 01:08:05,340 --> 01:08:08,670 this morning the wildly popular drug use for weight loss 1173 01:08:08,700 --> 01:08:12,600 semaglutide is now showing very early signs of potentially 1174 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,980 curbing alcohol use for those who drink excessively a new case 1175 01:08:16,980 --> 01:08:18,060 study composed of 1176 01:08:18,059 --> 01:08:20,969 Adam Curry: the we used to call those drunks or alcoholics now 1177 01:08:20,969 --> 01:08:23,909 it is alcohol use disorder. 1178 01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:27,810 Unknown: For those who drink excessively, a new case study 1179 01:08:27,810 --> 01:08:32,430 composed of six people's Whoa, six gay people, people reading 1180 01:08:32,430 --> 01:08:36,660 positive for alcohol use disorder or AUD found that they 1181 01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:40,590 all saw a clinically significant decrease in symptoms while they 1182 01:08:40,590 --> 01:08:44,190 were using semaglutide for weight loss. Christy Martin who 1183 01:08:44,190 --> 01:08:47,460 was not part of the study says whilst he used to drink wine 1184 01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:51,690 every night, her urge to drink has disappeared. Drinking 1185 01:08:51,690 --> 01:08:55,110 for me was becoming a bit of an issue. I 1186 01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:58,800 Adam Curry: can't believe this is on television. I was I was a 1187 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,040 drunk I was a wash. But then I took the ozempic 1188 01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:06,060 Unknown: and the fact that I just have no desire for it is 1189 01:09:06,090 --> 01:09:10,110 something I didn't expect and is just an amazing side benefit. I 1190 01:09:10,110 --> 01:09:11,310 can't even tell you how amazing 1191 01:09:11,340 --> 01:09:14,190 this small case study now setting the stage for larger 1192 01:09:14,190 --> 01:09:17,850 clinical trials. Looking at semaglutide as a treatment for 1193 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,870 AUD as researchers explored whether the drug has the 1194 01:09:21,870 --> 01:09:26,400 potential to treat other excessive use conditions. And 1195 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,820 again, this initial study only included six patients but as you 1196 01:09:29,820 --> 01:09:33,120 heard more thorough studies are already underway. It could be 1197 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,120 years before we know the true results. Does it matter? No. 1198 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,460 Okay, well, thanks for Oh, thanks. 1199 01:09:38,910 --> 01:09:42,360 Adam Curry: I'm gonna tell you let's put this bet that report 1200 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:46,590 was discussed and it's not over. It's not over. I'm going to put 1201 01:09:46,590 --> 01:09:51,630 in the red book right now. That there will be a study that was 1202 01:09:51,630 --> 01:09:54,990 six people is the norm these days there will be a study that 1203 01:09:54,990 --> 01:09:59,400 shows that ozempic is great for erectile dysfunction, I 1204 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,030 guarantee it this is the only thing they're missing. Is this 1205 01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:06,840 the only thing? You know I was kind of you know flaccid but now 1206 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,380 man, I'm not only my trim but look at look at it. Dr. Janice 1207 01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:12,570 Unknown: here. You know a lot about these drugs you're board 1208 01:10:12,570 --> 01:10:14,850 certified in obesity medicine What is this study board 1209 01:10:14,850 --> 01:10:17,280 Adam Curry: certified in obesity medicine? Okay, 1210 01:10:17,310 --> 01:10:18,360 John C Dvorak: tell us. What's 1211 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,660 Unknown: interesting about this is astute doctors for years who 1212 01:10:21,660 --> 01:10:25,260 have been managing patients on the GLP. One agonists. That's 1213 01:10:25,260 --> 01:10:29,340 the semaglutide class for weight loss and treating obesity, have 1214 01:10:29,340 --> 01:10:32,730 started to hear anecdotal reports of this, this small case 1215 01:10:32,730 --> 01:10:36,300 study of these six patients was really one of the first times 1216 01:10:36,300 --> 01:10:41,130 that reported in the literature, their their experience with 1217 01:10:41,130 --> 01:10:45,750 their cravings for alcohol use their subjective experience with 1218 01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:48,720 that really powerfully documented theories, our 1219 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,450 Adam Curry: subjective experience with that this is 1220 01:10:51,480 --> 01:10:56,700 this is a native ad of the most lowest form, the lowest form, 1221 01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:59,970 and it's minutes and minutes of this stuff, 1222 01:11:00,180 --> 01:11:02,820 Unknown: their subjective experience with that really 1223 01:11:02,820 --> 01:11:06,120 powerfully documented theories are that works in the brain in 1224 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:10,830 the reward center. But this can be a major indication, I have to 1225 01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:11,370 say, you know, we 1226 01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:14,130 know a lot of people who are taking drugs, and they report 1227 01:11:14,130 --> 01:11:15,090 the same thing. You know, a 1228 01:11:15,090 --> 01:11:17,640 Adam Curry: lot of people who are drunks here at ABC is 1229 01:11:17,850 --> 01:11:19,170 reporting the same thing. So 1230 01:11:19,170 --> 01:11:20,730 Unknown: literally, they do. Yeah, but what are 1231 01:11:20,730 --> 01:11:23,520 their treatment options are available for substance abuse 1232 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,600 disorders, well, this is 1233 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,450 one of those bright spots is that it sheds light on what 1234 01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:30,870 treatments are already existing and how they're not being used. 1235 01:11:31,140 --> 01:11:32,010 Three FDA 1236 01:11:32,010 --> 01:11:34,920 Adam Curry: approved event, an extra bonus, they're promoting 1237 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:35,670 some other drugs, 1238 01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:39,030 Unknown: medications. For people with alcohol use disorder, they 1239 01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:42,270 are vastly under prescribed behavioral interventions. And 1240 01:11:42,270 --> 01:11:45,660 then tech based or app based therapies, 1241 01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:48,480 Adam Curry: tech based or app based therapies, 1242 01:11:49,590 --> 01:11:53,610 Unknown: based, obviously, increasing in popularity and 1243 01:11:53,610 --> 01:11:56,190 research, but they have a role as well. But all of these 1244 01:11:56,190 --> 01:11:59,010 things, this isn't about just, you know, potentially choosing 1245 01:11:59,010 --> 01:12:01,680 one, it's about if you have an alcohol use disorder or 1246 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,040 substance use disorder, filling the boat and getting as much 1247 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:05,580 treatment it 1248 01:12:05,580 --> 01:12:09,060 Adam Curry: was, it was substance abuse. But now that 1249 01:12:09,090 --> 01:12:13,590 they have this new term, I don't know, saying this substance use 1250 01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:18,600 disorder, alcohol use disorder, not abuse, use. So you're not 1251 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,840 quite a drunk, but you're kind of on the way. 1252 01:12:21,870 --> 01:12:24,630 Unknown: And as you can make a big change in your life, as we 1253 01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:27,000 were just discussing. I mean, it really seems like a miracle 1254 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,100 drug. Why do you think that there seems to be a stigma 1255 01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:32,670 against the use of social backgrounds, lash Lindsey is 1256 01:12:32,670 --> 01:12:35,610 huge, whether it's for weight management or mental illness, 1257 01:12:35,610 --> 01:12:38,400 and that really can't that it's just wrong, you know, if you had 1258 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,190 high blood pressure, you would treat it. There's a role for 1259 01:12:41,190 --> 01:12:44,400 these. For every one, it's not one size fits all, but you have 1260 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,030 to factor in the risk of not taking a medication like this, 1261 01:12:48,270 --> 01:12:51,600 versus the benefits of treating your risk of not taking it 1262 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,380 Adam Curry: isn't this great? Wow, you can't afford the risk 1263 01:12:55,380 --> 01:12:57,990 of not taking this this medication, it could it's so 1264 01:12:57,990 --> 01:13:02,400 benefit. It is a Hamas support disorder, it will, it will cure 1265 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:02,940 everything 1266 01:13:02,940 --> 01:13:05,370 Unknown: Crusher, you would treat it. There's a role for 1267 01:13:05,370 --> 01:13:08,340 these. It's not for everyone. It's not one size fits all, but 1268 01:13:08,340 --> 01:13:11,910 you have to factor in the risk of not taking a medication like 1269 01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:14,850 this, versus the benefits of treating it when you weigh those 1270 01:13:14,850 --> 01:13:17,340 options. Seems like so helpful. risks 1271 01:13:17,340 --> 01:13:20,100 John C Dvorak: of not taking it versus the benefits are 1272 01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:23,640 unbelievable way of putting it and by the way, I think you get 1273 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:27,570 paid. It's almost like I'm reminded of the old was that 1274 01:13:27,570 --> 01:13:29,910 show where they would get into fights on the stage all the 1275 01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:33,120 time, Springer show Jerry Springer show where they have a 1276 01:13:33,660 --> 01:13:36,720 this was revealed by someone who's on the show that you got a 1277 01:13:36,810 --> 01:13:40,380 sheet that if you did this, you got paid so much you did that 1278 01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:45,690 you got paid so much bonus. And so you picked through a shoe, 1279 01:13:45,690 --> 01:13:49,350 you get 500 bucks, something like that. Yeah. There is 1280 01:13:49,380 --> 01:13:53,520 obviously a bonus clause in here for saying for somebody say if 1281 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,800 somebody says it's a miracle miracle 1282 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:56,130 Adam Curry: drug, 1283 01:13:56,310 --> 01:13:57,480 John C Dvorak: there's 500 bucks. 1284 01:13:57,630 --> 01:14:02,580 Adam Curry: I think this is more than that. I mean, the doctor 1285 01:14:02,580 --> 01:14:03,330 Jen, 1286 01:14:05,010 --> 01:14:07,440 John C Dvorak: to the obesity expert, board 1287 01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:11,640 Adam Curry: certified, Dr. Janice saying you really I mean, 1288 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,400 you'd have to, you'd have to weigh the risk of not taking 1289 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:14,820 this 1290 01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:19,920 John C Dvorak: versus she should be just barred for at this 1291 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,830 point. You can't disappoint anybody. But she should be 1292 01:14:22,830 --> 01:14:25,410 something should be done about someone who's who puts it in 1293 01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:29,520 that way. In other words, it's risky not to take it. It's 1294 01:14:29,730 --> 01:14:31,170 beneficial to take it but what 1295 01:14:31,170 --> 01:14:33,660 Adam Curry: you're saying here is that this obesity, and this 1296 01:14:33,660 --> 01:14:36,450 is the bottom line, John, everybody knows obesity. It's a 1297 01:14:36,450 --> 01:14:41,490 disease. It's not because you eat. It's a use disorder, a food 1298 01:14:41,490 --> 01:14:43,920 use disorder. You see this is where this is going treated. 1299 01:14:44,370 --> 01:14:46,740 Unknown: There's a role for these. It's not for everyone, 1300 01:14:46,740 --> 01:14:49,680 it's not one size fits all but you have to factor in the risk 1301 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,490 of not taking a medication like this, versus the benefits of 1302 01:14:53,490 --> 01:14:56,280 treating it when you weigh those options. Seems like so helpful. 1303 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,380 Diabetes, weight loss, alcohol, you 1304 01:14:58,380 --> 01:15:01,410 name it origin. Thank you. So much. That's 1305 01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:05,730 Adam Curry: awesome everything. Now, there is of course, you 1306 01:15:05,730 --> 01:15:09,180 know, a closing to this eight minute story. We 1307 01:15:09,180 --> 01:15:11,490 Unknown: are back now with a question from our viewers and 1308 01:15:11,490 --> 01:15:14,580 Dr. Jenn is here to answer it. Of course, the question is, I'm 1309 01:15:14,580 --> 01:15:17,430 using off of ozempic. And I'm worried about the weight coming 1310 01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:19,830 back. Any suggestions for this? So first 1311 01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:23,940 of all, it depends on each individual, of course. But yes, 1312 01:15:23,940 --> 01:15:27,720 people should expect that some amount of weight loss on these 1313 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:32,220 GLP one agonists will come back. Oh, because that is the chronic 1314 01:15:32,220 --> 01:15:35,370 condition of overweight and obesity. It's not like treating 1315 01:15:35,370 --> 01:15:39,420 strep throat where once you're done, you're done away, how much 1316 01:15:39,420 --> 01:15:43,200 we'll come back is an unknown. But what is happening in the 1317 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:47,010 real world is that a lot of doctors who have patients on 1318 01:15:47,010 --> 01:15:51,150 these kinds of medications like ozempic, we go the Manjaro are 1319 01:15:51,180 --> 01:15:53,820 are kind of putting them on a maintenance plan as 1320 01:15:54,990 --> 01:15:59,040 Adam Curry: a maintenance plan. This is a great drug, we need 1321 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:03,510 this in Medicare a maintenance plan. You're on it for ever, 1322 01:16:03,540 --> 01:16:06,090 Unknown: in terms of long term. So what could that look like 1323 01:16:06,090 --> 01:16:08,700 potentially, and again, it will be different for every person, 1324 01:16:08,850 --> 01:16:12,030 it might mean instead of taking a shot or an injection every 1325 01:16:12,030 --> 01:16:15,240 week, maybe you're taking it every two weeks or every 10 1326 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,110 days, it might be going down on a dose it might be alternating 1327 01:16:19,110 --> 01:16:20,910 weeks, one week on one week off. 1328 01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:24,420 Adam Curry: This sounds a lot like the Sacklers with the with 1329 01:16:24,660 --> 01:16:27,840 the opioids or just change your dose, don't worry point 1330 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,720 Unknown: is that you have to remember the condition of 1331 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,930 overweight and obesity are chronic conditions. 1332 01:16:34,230 --> 01:16:36,630 Adam Curry: It's chronic condition, you can't help it 1333 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,170 it's chronic, it's a disease, that's that's all that there's 1334 01:16:40,170 --> 01:16:43,080 there for you need a maintenance program, you need to keep taking 1335 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:44,640 it because otherwise that weight is going to come back or 1336 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,520 Unknown: not as simple as treating an infection for a 1337 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,730 short period of time, and then you're done with it. So long 1338 01:16:50,730 --> 01:16:53,220 term management is going to be a big part of it. And we still 1339 01:16:53,220 --> 01:16:54,780 don't know what that will look like there is 1340 01:16:54,780 --> 01:16:57,600 a weight management component to this where the donor can kind of 1341 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,630 decide to lower the dosage to make sure you're consistent and 1342 01:17:00,630 --> 01:17:02,160 you're not losing more weight than you want. 1343 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,340 Absolutely, just like we do managing patients on other types 1344 01:17:05,340 --> 01:17:09,150 of medications. It's not always the official way that the drug 1345 01:17:09,150 --> 01:17:12,870 is designed. But this is what doctors and health care 1346 01:17:12,870 --> 01:17:15,690 providers do to help their patients manage a chronic 1347 01:17:15,690 --> 01:17:18,420 condition. So we should be hearing more about that because 1348 01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:19,980 they're going to be a lot of people who are going to be 1349 01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:22,710 managed on these medications. Oh 1350 01:17:22,710 --> 01:17:30,600 Adam Curry: my god, this is so horrible. But you know, this is 1351 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:39,630 this is who we are, this is who we are as Americans. I'm almost 1352 01:17:39,630 --> 01:17:43,680 speechless of hearing. Hearing this. And then okay, then last 1353 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:50,700 one, I'll stop. This is not about to ozempic this is well, 1354 01:17:50,700 --> 01:17:53,400 actually, I should I should do this one. This is this is the 1355 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,820 Wall Street Journal, Wall Street Journal report, which has a 1356 01:17:56,820 --> 01:18:03,570 podcast in the morning. And they they now so I'm gonna play this, 1357 01:18:03,690 --> 01:18:08,400 this clear native ad about ozempic and new term will be 1358 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:12,150 introduced to and then listen for the story that comes right 1359 01:18:12,150 --> 01:18:12,960 after this one 1360 01:18:13,050 --> 01:18:15,330 Unknown: as demand for weight loss drugs like ozempic and 1361 01:18:15,330 --> 01:18:18,300 we'll go V continues to surge food companies are looking for 1362 01:18:18,300 --> 01:18:22,080 ways to cash in like by pitching companion products or even 1363 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,210 natural alternative companion 1364 01:18:24,210 --> 01:18:27,660 Adam Curry: products. We should do a podcast that companion 1365 01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:32,460 product for for your ozempic weight loss will be motivated 1366 01:18:32,460 --> 01:18:32,670 just 1367 01:18:32,670 --> 01:18:33,450 John C Dvorak: be food. 1368 01:18:34,350 --> 01:18:37,080 Unknown: Joining me to discuss is reporter Jesse Newman pay 1369 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,890 Jessie pay their HSA there, of course, food companies are 1370 01:18:40,890 --> 01:18:43,620 looking to see whether and how these drugs will reshape 1371 01:18:43,620 --> 01:18:45,990 American diets, how are they responding? 1372 01:18:46,290 --> 01:18:47,160 big food companies 1373 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,370 like everyone else have certainly noticed how popular 1374 01:18:50,370 --> 01:18:53,790 these drugs that were designed to treat diabetes and obesity 1375 01:18:53,790 --> 01:18:58,380 have become. And they've really been watching us these drugs 1376 01:18:58,380 --> 01:19:01,950 just have gotten incredibly popular spread to millions of 1377 01:19:01,950 --> 01:19:06,090 consumers throughout the US. And there's some concern that that 1378 01:19:06,090 --> 01:19:09,990 could sort of take a bite out of demand for the products that 1379 01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:14,100 these companies make, oh, we better get some food. And so 1380 01:19:14,130 --> 01:19:17,490 what we're seeing is it's very early days, but we are seeing 1381 01:19:17,490 --> 01:19:21,600 some companies that are trying to step in and develop some 1382 01:19:21,630 --> 01:19:25,050 companion products to proffer to patients on these drugs. 1383 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,180 So what are some of their solutions? 1384 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,170 We're seeing companies like Nestle and Abbott and they are 1385 01:19:31,170 --> 01:19:33,870 coming up with what they're calling companion products. And 1386 01:19:33,870 --> 01:19:37,950 these are products that the patients who are taking diabetes 1387 01:19:37,950 --> 01:19:43,680 and weight loss drugs could also consume if for example, they're 1388 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:48,660 losing muscle mass. There's a startup out in California. If 1389 01:19:48,660 --> 01:19:50,970 Adam Curry: you're losing muscle mass, which is the main thing 1390 01:19:50,970 --> 01:19:54,240 these products remove, okay, if you find that you're that you 1391 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,690 have ozempic Ask because you lose it because of muscle mass 1392 01:19:57,690 --> 01:20:00,330 loss. We got some chocolate for you and the startup is doing 1393 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:04,200 Unknown: super gut and there were like mixes and shakes and 1394 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,700 bars out of ours Hi Terry prebiotic fiber blend that they 1395 01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:13,410 call nature's event. Actually, same thing that these drugs can 1396 01:20:13,410 --> 01:20:14,280 do. Okay, so 1397 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,040 Adam Curry: this is the bullcrap report but wait for the next 1398 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,750 story in this pod using 1399 01:20:18,750 --> 01:20:19,620 Unknown: all natural foods. 1400 01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:21,930 That was WSJ is Jesse Newman. 1401 01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,890 Adam Curry: And now on to the next story, what should it be? 1402 01:20:26,850 --> 01:20:29,550 Unknown: And finally, after seven years of research, 1403 01:20:29,580 --> 01:20:33,270 McDonald's is taking its burgers making more than 50 tweaks to 1404 01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:34,770 its signature offerings is not 1405 01:20:34,770 --> 01:20:38,130 Adam Curry: by mistake people. This is how your American media 1406 01:20:38,130 --> 01:20:43,560 works. It's not a mistake. Like you can lose the weight now go 1407 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:52,890 eat a burger. And right on cue right on to right on cue. Did we 1408 01:20:52,890 --> 01:20:55,500 not say that McDonald's was going to have all the morning 1409 01:20:55,500 --> 01:20:57,390 shows doing their new thing now? 1410 01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,490 John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, we're they're munching down on burgers 1411 01:20:59,490 --> 01:21:00,780 and going yum. 1412 01:21:00,810 --> 01:21:03,120 Unknown: Let us turn now to our headline making mystery from the 1413 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,500 world of fast food. 1414 01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:07,200 Adam Curry: The world of fast food. Are you excited? Yeah. 1415 01:21:07,380 --> 01:21:10,110 Unknown: Look at this. It's a building in suburban Chicago and 1416 01:21:10,110 --> 01:21:12,750 it's been getting a lot of attention on social media. Now 1417 01:21:12,780 --> 01:21:17,070 look closely or write their cosmetics comic. 1418 01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:19,050 John C Dvorak: What's that? What 1419 01:21:20,130 --> 01:21:22,920 Unknown: is asking what is this all about? And this is Maggie 1420 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,640 vest. Vash is a head of the Maggie Good morning. What's it 1421 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:27,510 all about? 1422 01:21:29,310 --> 01:21:31,770 Hey Savannah, guys. Good morning. Yeah, we wish we knew I 1423 01:21:31,770 --> 01:21:34,230 mean, well, you can see they're clearly keeping it under wraps. 1424 01:21:34,230 --> 01:21:38,130 There's literally a tarp over this way if that's not fluid 1425 01:21:38,130 --> 01:21:40,890 enough, the major chain backing dispenser, which if you haven't 1426 01:21:40,890 --> 01:21:44,700 figured it out by now is McDonald's, confirming much at 1427 01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:49,200 all tied to cosmic that being said fast food fans and industry 1428 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:54,030 experts agree this mounting MC mystery marks a very American 1429 01:21:54,030 --> 01:21:54,360 tribe. 1430 01:21:54,900 --> 01:22:00,960 Adam Curry: MC mystery was Maggie Vesper. Did she co host 1431 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,130 that debate last night? 1432 01:22:03,090 --> 01:22:06,240 John C Dvorak: I don't know who didn't watch the debate. Because 1433 01:22:06,270 --> 01:22:09,720 may wait was a MC mystery? I think we're 1434 01:22:10,650 --> 01:22:14,580 Adam Curry: MC mystery. Lets you want to hear that the MC mystery 1435 01:22:15,870 --> 01:22:18,360 John C Dvorak: they solve the MC MC solve the big mystery 1436 01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:21,660 Unknown: breaking McDonald's dudes. I've got the scoop on 1437 01:22:21,660 --> 01:22:23,490 cosmic this morning 1438 01:22:23,550 --> 01:22:25,560 in a nation long obsessed with. 1439 01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:30,780 Adam Curry: So insulting, fast food, and even super secret 1440 01:22:30,780 --> 01:22:31,080 about it. 1441 01:22:31,230 --> 01:22:36,810 Unknown: fans on social media are loving this mystery. Right 1442 01:22:36,810 --> 01:22:40,440 here it is cosmics and Bolingbrook Illinois. It looks 1443 01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:44,550 like there are going to be four drive thru lanes online slot 1444 01:22:44,910 --> 01:22:45,270 zero. 1445 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,260 Adam Curry: Used to be a phone No, this is going viral as food 1446 01:22:49,260 --> 01:22:49,800 joint in 1447 01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:51,810 Unknown: the main urban Chicago. 1448 01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:56,130 Its name cosmics Oh, no new venture McDonald's See, 1449 01:22:56,430 --> 01:22:58,770 Adam Curry: I'm just gonna leave all that just goes to the 1450 01:22:58,770 --> 01:23:01,080 payoff. The payoff is the best part. 1451 01:23:01,380 --> 01:23:03,660 Unknown: That's an interesting thing to end on. And by the way, 1452 01:23:03,660 --> 01:23:05,820 guys, we've talked a lot about online sleuths, right? Well 1453 01:23:05,820 --> 01:23:08,760 basically before these signs were tarps and it was kind of 1454 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,220 being kept under wraps to this degree. It's worth noting people 1455 01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:14,490 online were doing everything they could to find out anything 1456 01:23:15,060 --> 01:23:19,290 about cosmics Case in point one guy who posted these photos on X 1457 01:23:19,290 --> 01:23:23,220 have what he says is cosmics menu you can see if this is the 1458 01:23:23,220 --> 01:23:26,640 menu it goes all in on drinks, different iced teas and 1459 01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,640 lemonades there's something called a galactic boost they 1460 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,490 have frappe A's and the food section we see like a spicy 1461 01:23:32,490 --> 01:23:36,240 queso sandwich and pretzel bites now reiterate MC 1462 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,780 Adam Curry: mystery is solved but let's thank the company 1463 01:23:39,870 --> 01:23:44,100 let's thank the guy who's paying us to do this horrible native 1464 01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:44,880 app again 1465 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,460 Unknown: that is one person on Twitter who posted those photos. 1466 01:23:47,580 --> 01:23:51,390 McDonald's has yet to confirm anything official that being 1467 01:23:51,390 --> 01:23:55,350 said another one of those earnings calls is slated for 1468 01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:58,830 tomorrow so it's very possible guys that our knowledge on this 1469 01:23:58,830 --> 01:24:03,510 topic could get supersize very soon marketing guys gonna get a 1470 01:24:03,510 --> 01:24:07,350 salary supersize for this up. You press posted Maggie, 1471 01:24:07,380 --> 01:24:08,130 thank you Maggie, 1472 01:24:08,250 --> 01:24:10,740 I hope they have egg McMuffins the marketing 1473 01:24:10,740 --> 01:24:14,010 Adam Curry: guy salary is going to get supersize for this 1474 01:24:16,380 --> 01:24:18,030 John C Dvorak: that these people are 1475 01:24:18,570 --> 01:24:21,540 Adam Curry: should be arrested. Should this is 1476 01:24:21,570 --> 01:24:23,880 John C Dvorak: this is our news media. This is what it comes 1477 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,200 down to Yes. These are your news there and who gives a shit this 1478 01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,560 is not across the street from me what there's as a make serious, 1479 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,200 Adam Curry: believable. He's a serious journalists. 1480 01:24:35,100 --> 01:24:38,610 John C Dvorak: Well, that's what they liked. Well, yeah, I like 1481 01:24:38,610 --> 01:24:40,860 to think that and they all hate Trump. So let's make sure they 1482 01:24:40,860 --> 01:24:45,270 get that even. These are the same people that Trump did you 1483 01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:48,240 know when they did the debate they asked Trump was on with 1484 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,970 Hannity at the same time oh really programmed that's funny. 1485 01:24:50,970 --> 01:24:55,830 I didn't so he did an ECT made some deals doing stick doing 1486 01:24:55,830 --> 01:25:00,960 material. Yes, joking around. Good. Good answer. So one of the 1487 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,870 things he said was, yeah, they want me to be a keep saying I'm 1488 01:25:03,870 --> 01:25:06,120 gonna be a dictator. I am not going to be a dictator. Wait, 1489 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,190 wait, I'm going to be a dictator. I'm going to be a 1490 01:25:08,190 --> 01:25:13,290 dictator for one day, one day and he's going to close the 1491 01:25:13,290 --> 01:25:15,720 border and start drill drill drill, and then that's this is 1492 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:21,030 the end of his dictatorship. So NBC, so I got this thing, this 1493 01:25:21,030 --> 01:25:22,830 that clip. It says true moto. 1494 01:25:23,310 --> 01:25:24,000 Unknown: Yes. Okay. 1495 01:25:25,590 --> 01:25:29,820 John C Dvorak: So, instead of seeing this as a joke, you know, 1496 01:25:29,820 --> 01:25:32,820 because Trump was kidding around doing anything he could to keep 1497 01:25:32,820 --> 01:25:34,440 people's attention off the debate. 1498 01:25:34,440 --> 01:25:36,510 Adam Curry: Yes, they took it so seriously. They went all 1499 01:25:36,510 --> 01:25:37,950 bananas. They 1500 01:25:37,950 --> 01:25:42,450 John C Dvorak: went nuts. This is NBC. Former 1501 01:25:42,450 --> 01:25:44,940 Unknown: President Donald Trump is taking heat for comments he 1502 01:25:44,940 --> 01:25:48,480 made last night in an interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity, 1503 01:25:48,660 --> 01:25:51,870 Trump was asked if he would ever abuse power if he won the 1504 01:25:51,870 --> 01:25:53,760 presidency. Take a listen to his response. 1505 01:25:55,110 --> 01:25:57,870 He says you're not going to be a dictator. Yeah. I said no, no, 1506 01:25:57,870 --> 01:26:01,950 no other than day one, with closing the border with drilling 1507 01:26:01,950 --> 01:26:03,510 drilling drilling after that I'm not 1508 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,230 NPCs Ali Vitaly joins us now from Tuscaloosa, Alabama ahead 1509 01:26:07,230 --> 01:26:10,020 of tonight's Republican debate there. Ally. What is the 1510 01:26:10,020 --> 01:26:12,810 backlash? Ben to those comments? What are we hearing from 1511 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,990 supporters of President Trump and from the Biden campaign? 1512 01:26:16,020 --> 01:26:18,900 You're hearing very little from the Republican side. And I 1513 01:26:18,900 --> 01:26:21,930 wonder if that will change once candidates who are vying to 1514 01:26:21,930 --> 01:26:25,380 actually be the nominee over Trump take the stage though they 1515 01:26:25,380 --> 01:26:28,980 have been pretty slow in the past to condemn or even critique 1516 01:26:28,980 --> 01:26:32,220 his remarks in this space. From President Biden though we're 1517 01:26:32,220 --> 01:26:35,610 hearing his campaign arm say believe Trump when he says this, 1518 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,090 believe him when he says that he will be a dictator, even if it's 1519 01:26:39,090 --> 01:26:42,360 only for one day. But these comments really can't be taken 1520 01:26:42,540 --> 01:26:46,230 outside of a vacuum for Trump. He has made comments akin to 1521 01:26:46,230 --> 01:26:49,110 this over the course of the last several years, praising 1522 01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:52,950 dictators and authoritarians from North Korea to China. Even 1523 01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:56,220 joking when Xi Jinping several years ago was able to fully 1524 01:26:56,220 --> 01:26:59,730 establish himself in control of the executive power there in 1525 01:26:59,730 --> 01:27:02,340 China joking that that was something that he wished he 1526 01:27:02,340 --> 01:27:05,550 could do. So this is certainly a new comment from the former 1527 01:27:05,550 --> 01:27:08,790 president, but one that tracks in a vein of comments that we've 1528 01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:11,460 seen from him over the course of the last few years. 1529 01:27:12,300 --> 01:27:13,170 Adam Curry: Oh, man, 1530 01:27:13,620 --> 01:27:14,430 John C Dvorak: can you believe 1531 01:27:14,430 --> 01:27:17,520 Adam Curry: these people? Well, so I did watch Tina and I 1532 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:23,310 watched about two commercial breaks worth of news nation, 1533 01:27:23,850 --> 01:27:27,840 because that's what this debate aired on, which was nation. So a 1534 01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:33,090 couple of comments, one, Cuomo I'm glad Chris Cuomo has a gig. 1535 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,970 He he fits in very well there. 1536 01:27:37,140 --> 01:27:37,950 John C Dvorak: I think so. Yeah. I 1537 01:27:37,950 --> 01:27:39,930 Adam Curry: think it's good for him. I'm happy. I am kind of 1538 01:27:39,930 --> 01:27:45,300 happy for him. To Tina actually forbid me from doing this, but I 1539 01:27:45,300 --> 01:27:51,900 cannot help myself. Megyn Kelly, her face is so thin. It looks 1540 01:27:51,900 --> 01:27:56,550 like the screen mask. There's something up the it is too thin. 1541 01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,690 John C Dvorak: I mean, Kimmy she looks gaunt. 1542 01:28:01,110 --> 01:28:05,340 Adam Curry: Gets gone gaunt. Yes. It was too thin. It's like 1543 01:28:05,370 --> 01:28:08,850 It's like she's half a half half of her face is you already 1544 01:28:08,850 --> 01:28:10,950 John C Dvorak: answered the question. Gone early. The 1545 01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:12,900 earlier clips. Well, I 1546 01:28:12,930 --> 01:28:16,230 Adam Curry: don't want to go V I don't want to body shame. That 1547 01:28:16,230 --> 01:28:19,440 was I was expressly for Bolton. That's why I just the face look 1548 01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:24,420 like the screen mask. It was weird. Weird. Go 1549 01:28:24,420 --> 01:28:26,340 John C Dvorak: back and look at I haven't untain Yeah, Chris 1550 01:28:26,340 --> 01:28:32,280 Adam Curry: Christie. His he's only there to protect Nimrod. 1551 01:28:32,700 --> 01:28:37,050 That's his only job. The all he did. All I saw him do was hey, 1552 01:28:37,230 --> 01:28:41,100 lay off her. I like I like her. I like Nikki Haley. 1553 01:28:41,130 --> 01:28:43,950 John C Dvorak: Oh, so he's a foil false total foil. 1554 01:28:45,060 --> 01:28:47,280 Adam Curry: Vivek, that's the way apparently you pronounce his 1555 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,730 name. Vivek. doesn't care. He had it. He had a great line 1556 01:28:50,730 --> 01:28:56,430 though. And I really enjoyed it. He said me the Christie or Haley 1557 01:28:57,150 --> 01:29:00,780 can't who want to send your kids to go fight against Russia and 1558 01:29:00,780 --> 01:29:04,770 Ukraine. Or Joe Biden. And he said can answer can give me the 1559 01:29:04,770 --> 01:29:09,270 name of three provinces in eastern Ukraine. Which of course 1560 01:29:09,300 --> 01:29:14,130 they couldn't. That was a genius. Genius move. Beautiful 1561 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,220 now yeah, it was really good. And who cares? Everything else 1562 01:29:17,220 --> 01:29:20,400 he had, you know, it'd be Vegas just doing stuff. That's funny. 1563 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:21,180 It's good. It's good. 1564 01:29:22,110 --> 01:29:25,080 John C Dvorak: I don't know what is in the as long game is while 1565 01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:25,530 he's not going 1566 01:29:25,530 --> 01:29:26,490 Adam Curry: to be vice president. 1567 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:27,540 John C Dvorak: I know. Of course. 1568 01:29:27,570 --> 01:29:30,000 Adam Curry: I did get way I do get the boots on the ground 1569 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,340 about Christie. No member I was saying that people in South 1570 01:29:32,340 --> 01:29:35,820 Dakota don't like her. Yeah, I want to hear the stories. Okay, 1571 01:29:35,820 --> 01:29:41,040 so this is from Craig Weinberg. This is his sir Craig. One of 1572 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,760 the main issues with Christie is that she's a liar. She seemed to 1573 01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,570 have more interest in national politics and South Dakota during 1574 01:29:48,570 --> 01:29:51,150 the early days of COVID. She claimed to never have shut 1575 01:29:51,150 --> 01:29:54,210 anything down and let the people make their own decisions, except 1576 01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:56,880 it was the Speaker of the House at the time who had a very 1577 01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:01,260 different story. He has receipts to show that she actually wanted 1578 01:30:01,260 --> 01:30:04,440 to give her health secretary full control to shut down 1579 01:30:04,440 --> 01:30:07,320 whatever they wanted. But the legislator in the middle of the 1580 01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:11,160 night put a stop to it. She also says things like my budget, my 1581 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,340 plan, when she's not writing anything, there's also the 1582 01:30:14,340 --> 01:30:17,280 alleged affair with Corey Lewandowski that broke pretty 1583 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,220 big over the summer that she has avoided talking about. For 1584 01:30:20,220 --> 01:30:22,410 years, there was speculation that it was happening, but the 1585 01:30:22,410 --> 01:30:25,440 proof seems a lot more real now. She'll say whatever she needs to 1586 01:30:25,440 --> 01:30:27,930 align with Trump all the thinking if she wants his VP 1587 01:30:27,930 --> 01:30:32,040 spot, she will get killed in a general election. Maybe, maybe. 1588 01:30:33,030 --> 01:30:36,300 So that was the main thing. Also farmers lobbied the Public 1589 01:30:36,300 --> 01:30:44,670 Utilities Commission. Oh, this was she wanted. She wanted 1590 01:30:44,670 --> 01:30:49,650 carbon pipelines and was going against the farmers. So they 1591 01:30:49,650 --> 01:30:53,430 don't really like her. She's not all that loved as people make 1592 01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:56,310 her out to be, at least not in South Dakota. But she's got a 1593 01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:59,040 look. She's got the look. She's got a good look. And 1594 01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,200 John C Dvorak: she's got a good pattern. She's got a good spiel. 1595 01:31:01,530 --> 01:31:04,500 She's She wouldn't get killed in a general election. She's not 1596 01:31:04,500 --> 01:31:07,350 running for president. Nobody votes for the vice president 1597 01:31:07,350 --> 01:31:11,280 anymore. We're not an 1800s bosses, but it's just a name on 1598 01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:12,210 the ballot. Take 1599 01:31:12,210 --> 01:31:16,050 Adam Curry: it up with Craig, man. Don't tell me. I didn't. 1600 01:31:16,380 --> 01:31:18,750 John C Dvorak: You know, she doesn't look at the right to me. 1601 01:31:19,110 --> 01:31:21,900 Although, you know, Trump has shown that he can't pick 1602 01:31:21,900 --> 01:31:23,610 Adam Curry: any candidate the right people now. 1603 01:31:23,820 --> 01:31:26,970 John C Dvorak: So how is that going to change? 1604 01:31:27,660 --> 01:31:31,350 Adam Curry: So I have an NPR clip one minute long, which I 1605 01:31:31,350 --> 01:31:32,520 think is about the debate. 1606 01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,090 Unknown: The fourth Republican presidential primary debate is 1607 01:31:36,090 --> 01:31:39,630 in the books Florida Governor Ron De Santis or South notice 1608 01:31:39,630 --> 01:31:41,640 Adam Curry: how they always say, I think they're doing it to piss 1609 01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:48,120 him off. DeSantis isn't that is DeSantis but now he knows 1610 01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:54,210 DeSantis MPR. Santas Lux believes on 1611 01:31:54,210 --> 01:31:57,270 Unknown: a Ron DeSantis former South Carolina Governor Nikki 1612 01:31:57,270 --> 01:32:00,930 Haley, entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, and ex New Jersey 1613 01:32:00,930 --> 01:32:04,290 Governor Chris Christie squared off last night at the University 1614 01:32:04,290 --> 01:32:08,220 of Alabama. Haley was the target for much of the night more so 1615 01:32:08,220 --> 01:32:11,130 than former President Donald Trump who skipped the event. 1616 01:32:11,460 --> 01:32:15,240 Haley has been climbing in the polls of late Pat Dawkins with 1617 01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:18,810 Alabama public radio spoke with some students in the audience 1618 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,640 afterwards. Nikki 1619 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,490 Haley got the warmest applause as the four candidates took the 1620 01:32:23,490 --> 01:32:27,240 stage in Tuscaloosa and the sharpest attacks that included 1621 01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,480 Vivec Ramaswamy. You held up a handwritten sign reading Nikki 1622 01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:33,480 equals corruption. That was just one thing that didn't impress 1623 01:32:33,480 --> 01:32:36,000 University of Alabama freshman Charlie Berry. 1624 01:32:36,300 --> 01:32:39,810 That was embarrassing seeing them talk over each other argue 1625 01:32:39,810 --> 01:32:43,320 over each other. I don't want to see that out of my camp. My 1626 01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,110 presidential candidate I don't want to see another Trump. Trump 1627 01:32:46,110 --> 01:32:46,440 are like 1628 01:32:46,440 --> 01:32:49,770 that. The UAE economics major was one of only 50 students 1629 01:32:49,770 --> 01:32:52,770 allowed in to watch the debate. The audience for the Tuscaloosa 1630 01:32:52,770 --> 01:32:56,940 campus venue was close to 1000 donor NPR News. I'm Pat Duggins. 1631 01:32:56,940 --> 01:32:58,320 in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, 1632 01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,620 Adam Curry: it was donors, special interests and donors. 1633 01:33:03,300 --> 01:33:06,690 John C Dvorak: That a few students into 5050 students so 1634 01:33:06,690 --> 01:33:10,410 we can get a bitch about it. I don't want to see that from my I 1635 01:33:10,410 --> 01:33:13,110 don't want another Trump. Whatever we get. It has to 1636 01:33:13,110 --> 01:33:16,050 definitely be a negative. Do you get the right guy? Hey, find 1637 01:33:16,050 --> 01:33:18,330 somebody. It's one of the kids who hates Trump. Well, that's 1638 01:33:18,330 --> 01:33:20,940 all of them hate Trump. Alright, we'll just get make sure you get 1639 01:33:20,940 --> 01:33:21,600 that in there. Just 1640 01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,700 Adam Curry: hate the Trump. Yeah, that's that's what you do. 1641 01:33:23,730 --> 01:33:26,250 That's all you do. So I do 1642 01:33:28,020 --> 01:33:30,570 John C Dvorak: yeah, he's got some thing about this. Nikki 1643 01:33:30,570 --> 01:33:33,690 Haley. They're all the all the left is promoting Nikki Haley. 1644 01:33:33,690 --> 01:33:35,760 They will let the 00 even 1645 01:33:36,510 --> 01:33:39,480 Adam Curry: prof G and Kara Swisher like why could live with 1646 01:33:39,480 --> 01:33:44,490 Nikki Haley? Really? So there weren't she's a warmonger man. 1647 01:33:45,570 --> 01:33:50,790 Totally they all are. I'm having dinner with the oil baron 1648 01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:55,800 tonight. Ah, okay, so oh and I think that he I don't know if he 1649 01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:59,940 supports Nikki Haley but the industry share does so he'll 1650 01:34:00,030 --> 01:34:01,890 I'll get she's 1651 01:34:01,890 --> 01:34:03,690 John C Dvorak: not going to he's no good 1652 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:06,840 Adam Curry: but no, she's no good. 1653 01:34:07,230 --> 01:34:07,980 John C Dvorak: She's no good 1654 01:34:07,980 --> 01:34:11,580 Adam Curry: she's no good. There's also she has no chance 1655 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:12,840 this is like 1656 01:34:12,870 --> 01:34:15,390 John C Dvorak: well that's why they that's why the left wants 1657 01:34:15,390 --> 01:34:17,970 to run and they keep boosting her yeah, this is what the 1658 01:34:17,970 --> 01:34:21,330 Republicans were really good at years ago that's when they had 1659 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,410 that guy Eagleton. They would find people they'd promote to 1660 01:34:25,410 --> 01:34:28,500 get him into the you know, the Republicans are very happy that 1661 01:34:28,500 --> 01:34:34,920 George McGovern ran as the as the Democrat because after 1662 01:34:34,950 --> 01:34:37,410 Kennedy was assassinated because he would have been a problem but 1663 01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:42,720 the govern goes down he is not going to beat anybody. So you 1664 01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,390 put them in Yeah, okay. run against Nixon. Good luck. 1665 01:34:45,420 --> 01:34:48,780 Adam Curry: All right. That's too funny. 1666 01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,590 John C Dvorak: I have a couple odd balls. I do have a three by 1667 01:34:52,590 --> 01:34:53,220 three. 1668 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,730 Adam Curry: Oh, I was not prepared. Hold on a second. Is 1669 01:34:56,730 --> 01:34:58,920 John C Dvorak: not one of the best that doesn't exist is there 1670 01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:03,360 little long just Same billing are by three producer well 1671 01:35:04,020 --> 01:35:06,240 Adam Curry: we have a three by three jingle yeah I think we 1672 01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:11,460 have we do yes we do. Some my computer's going slow today for 1673 01:35:11,460 --> 01:35:16,440 some reason now it's time for a three by three by Jessie 1674 01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:25,470 comparing story from ABC is normally at the top of the show 1675 01:35:25,470 --> 01:35:28,500 it's a different moment here. This is something new it must be 1676 01:35:28,500 --> 01:35:32,940 it's either really good or just mediocre was kind 1677 01:35:32,940 --> 01:35:38,610 John C Dvorak: of in between but it's has a it's about this weird 1678 01:35:38,610 --> 01:35:42,840 little bull crap. And these reports may all be bogus, in 1679 01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:47,430 fact, about the attacks on the chips and the Rams. Yeah, man. 1680 01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:50,670 Yeah. Back and forth and back forth and we don't want to play 1681 01:35:50,670 --> 01:35:54,630 them. I want to play the ABC NBC person. The CBS report is the 1682 01:35:54,630 --> 01:35:58,470 only one that all of a sudden out of the blue as opposed to 1683 01:35:58,470 --> 01:36:03,300 the other two reports introduces a whole new factor. Okay, which 1684 01:36:03,300 --> 01:36:05,400 we'll start with ABC. The 1685 01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,610 Unknown: Pentagon now says that the US has taken new defensive 1686 01:36:08,610 --> 01:36:12,000 action in the Middle East. A deadly US drone strike tonight 1687 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,060 this time in Iraq targeting militants who The Pentagon says 1688 01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:18,840 we're about to target American forces. Here's Martha Raddatz. 1689 01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:24,600 Tonight, the Pentagon revealing a conducted a deadly drone 1690 01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:28,590 strike on militants in Iraq, who the US says we're planning to 1691 01:36:28,590 --> 01:36:32,520 launch a drone attack on American forces. Five of the 1692 01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:36,870 Iranian backed militants were killed. It came as a US 1693 01:36:36,870 --> 01:36:41,430 destroyer in the Red Sea spent more than seven hours on Sunday 1694 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:47,640 responding to multiple attacks. It began at 9:15am. local time, 1695 01:36:47,730 --> 01:36:51,360 the Pentagon said the US has corny tracked a ballistic 1696 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:55,320 missile fired from Iranian backed Houthis in Yemen landing 1697 01:36:55,320 --> 01:37:00,510 in the waters near the cargo ship unity explorer at 12pm. The 1698 01:37:00,510 --> 01:37:04,260 Kearney detects and drone from Yemen heading in its direction. 1699 01:37:04,350 --> 01:37:09,330 The Navy crew shooting it down 35 minutes later, the Unity 1700 01:37:09,330 --> 01:37:14,430 explorer under fire again, this time the missile hits the ship 1701 01:37:14,670 --> 01:37:19,470 the carny response as another inbound drone is detected and 1702 01:37:19,470 --> 01:37:25,320 shot down at 3:30pm. A third ballistic missile hits another 1703 01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:30,000 cargo ship. There is damage reported but no casualties. One 1704 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:34,620 hour later, a fourth ballistic missile hits a third cargo 1705 01:37:34,620 --> 01:37:39,870 vessel again the carny racing to this ship to render aid as yet 1706 01:37:39,900 --> 01:37:44,640 another drone is launched in the carnies direction and shot down 1707 01:37:46,380 --> 01:37:49,860 the Pentagon blaming Iran for enabling these attacks using 1708 01:37:49,860 --> 01:37:53,280 some of the strongest language we've heard about Iran, but it 1709 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:57,270 is unlikely the US will retaliate against Iran directly 1710 01:37:57,270 --> 01:38:00,660 for these attacks. Given that the Pentagon says they do not 1711 01:38:00,660 --> 01:38:04,830 believe the USS Carney was an intended target. Although Jake 1712 01:38:04,830 --> 01:38:08,790 Sullivan the National Security Adviser made clear that any 1713 01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:13,380 response by the US will be at a time and place of his choosing. 1714 01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:15,720 Adam Curry: I have a couple questions before we get to the 1715 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:20,040 next one one this drone was that like a foreign like Reaper sized 1716 01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:21,090 drone was it one of 1717 01:38:21,090 --> 01:38:23,370 John C Dvorak: those who said unlikely did they didn't know 1718 01:38:23,370 --> 01:38:27,060 real damage didn't kill anybody no data we're shooting them down 1719 01:38:27,060 --> 01:38:31,350 left and right this is a story is a hoax. You know what I also 1720 01:38:31,950 --> 01:38:35,730 here's why isn't aren't the aren't the Houthis fighting the 1721 01:38:35,730 --> 01:38:39,240 battles they're supposed to be fighting against the Saudis but 1722 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,370 they shouldn't ask for in the middle of nowhere 1723 01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,620 Adam Curry: when it comes no sense when it comes to the big 1724 01:38:43,650 --> 01:38:47,520 money organizations in the United States. I mean, the 1725 01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:50,640 military industrial complex could take a page out of the out 1726 01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,790 of the farmer playbook man is much more entertaining their 1727 01:38:53,790 --> 01:38:58,170 stuff. They're not making this fun and entertaining. No one 1728 01:38:58,170 --> 01:39:01,590 wants to hear this. They got to spruce it up. You know what I 1729 01:39:01,590 --> 01:39:09,840 liked? I liked the the body cams like when those the Houthis No, 1730 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:13,710 no the Houthis they hijacked that ship. Okay, like two weeks 1731 01:39:13,710 --> 01:39:16,800 ago, and they had you know they had the helicopter and they 1732 01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:20,040 jumped out of the helicopter and then they got into the crew. But 1733 01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:24,720 it was all it was all body cam footage to even have footage 1734 01:39:25,290 --> 01:39:28,620 done. Yeah, but that's like a video game. It's like first 1735 01:39:28,620 --> 01:39:33,600 person shooter video game it's exactly the same thing now. It 1736 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,480 could have been a video game for all I know it's getting pretty 1737 01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:36,840 good. 1738 01:39:37,980 --> 01:39:40,260 John C Dvorak: Well there have been people that have sent video 1739 01:39:40,260 --> 01:39:43,890 game footage into town lots of news media and they've picked it 1740 01:39:43,890 --> 01:39:46,710 up as live reporting I've fallen forward 1741 01:39:46,710 --> 01:39:48,900 Adam Curry: of course. I mean, have you seen the new Grand 1742 01:39:48,900 --> 01:39:51,360 Theft Auto that was starting to look pretty good 1743 01:39:52,620 --> 01:39:54,990 John C Dvorak: duty the rest of their all dynamite? Yeah, it's 1744 01:39:54,990 --> 01:39:55,170 all 1745 01:39:55,170 --> 01:39:59,400 Adam Curry: good. Yeah. So I bet you we could we could say that 1746 01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,550 we have Footage from a war and just have our producer send us 1747 01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:05,820 the right bits from Call of Duty and we could just make a report 1748 01:40:05,820 --> 01:40:07,080 and it would go viral. 1749 01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:14,310 John C Dvorak: So Lester Holt comes on with his report, which 1750 01:40:14,310 --> 01:40:19,440 is a little long and it's same basic thing these missiles going 1751 01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:22,650 back and forth. We don't know they don't tell us any details 1752 01:40:22,650 --> 01:40:26,580 about these drones, any of them. Are they made out of paper 1753 01:40:26,580 --> 01:40:31,860 mache? Are they the ones that Iranians build that they give to 1754 01:40:31,860 --> 01:40:35,640 the Russians and motorcycle engines? We have no idea they 1755 01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,610 don't tell us anything. And it's just it's like a lot. These are 1756 01:40:38,610 --> 01:40:40,470 lousy reports. 1757 01:40:40,620 --> 01:40:43,860 Unknown: Nearby in the Red Sea and other dangerous situation 1758 01:40:43,860 --> 01:40:47,580 appears to be escalating. In the latest chapter a US Navy 1759 01:40:47,580 --> 01:40:51,450 destroyer rushed to the aid of commercial ships at the Pentagon 1760 01:40:51,450 --> 01:40:55,170 says came under ballistic missile fire from Iranian backed 1761 01:40:55,170 --> 01:40:55,740 militias 1762 01:40:55,770 --> 01:40:58,770 Adam Curry: ballistic missile fire now oh, that's serious. We 1763 01:40:58,770 --> 01:40:59,880 get late details now 1764 01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:01,710 Unknown: from Courtney QB at the Pentagon. 1765 01:41:02,940 --> 01:41:06,630 Tonight the White House pointing the blame squarely at Iran after 1766 01:41:06,630 --> 01:41:10,470 an hour's long drama at sea Sunday that saw a US military 1767 01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:14,070 warship rush to aid three commercial vessels under fire 1768 01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:19,020 that gun. The weapons here are being supplied by Iran and Iran, 1769 01:41:19,050 --> 01:41:21,690 we believe is the ultimate party responsible for 1770 01:41:21,690 --> 01:41:25,650 this. It began around 9:15am Sunday when a ballistic missile 1771 01:41:25,650 --> 01:41:29,760 landed near a commercial ship in the Red Sea. Then at noon, the 1772 01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:33,720 USS Kearney a Navy destroyer intercepted the first of three 1773 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:37,320 drones fired towards commercial ships and the carny itself. 1774 01:41:37,500 --> 01:41:42,000 ballistic missiles later hitting all three of the cargo ships one 1775 01:41:42,210 --> 01:41:45,720 after another. None of the ships suffered major damage or 1776 01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:49,710 casualties. Responding to each distress call the carnie found 1777 01:41:49,710 --> 01:41:53,100 itself directly in the path of Houthi attack drones. The 1778 01:41:53,100 --> 01:41:55,530 Pentagon says there are no indications that drones were 1779 01:41:55,530 --> 01:41:59,010 targeting the carny but still shot them down. The Iranian 1780 01:41:59,010 --> 01:42:02,070 backed Houthi rebels in Yemen have targeted Israeli own ships 1781 01:42:02,070 --> 01:42:03,450 in the Red Sea before 1782 01:42:03,570 --> 01:42:06,480 we do not believe that all three of the ships had ties to Israel. 1783 01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:09,540 And it goes to show you the level of recklessness that the 1784 01:42:09,540 --> 01:42:11,850 Houthis are operating on. In 1785 01:42:11,850 --> 01:42:13,650 October the carny shot down 1786 01:42:13,650 --> 01:42:17,040 John C Dvorak: cruise notice that hold on. Yeah. Did you 1787 01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,790 notice little parsing that you can get away with? It's like, we 1788 01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:24,750 have no evidence that all three of the ships are tied to Israel. 1789 01:42:24,780 --> 01:42:27,780 Now of course, it's always means that two of them could have been 1790 01:42:29,310 --> 01:42:32,520 you chickenshit stuff. These people do this 1791 01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:35,520 Adam Curry: and get away with ballistic missile where was that 1792 01:42:35,550 --> 01:42:36,930 and of ballistic missiles. 1793 01:42:37,260 --> 01:42:40,290 John C Dvorak: But when they I've seen the missiles they did 1794 01:42:40,290 --> 01:42:44,580 recovered from the some of the stuff they recovered from Gaza 1795 01:42:44,580 --> 01:42:47,940 or like they look like hobbyist missiles or like ballistic but 1796 01:42:48,090 --> 01:42:49,230 five feet long. 1797 01:42:49,230 --> 01:42:51,150 Adam Curry: No. What's interesting in all of this, have 1798 01:42:51,150 --> 01:42:54,990 you heard or seen a single story this week about Hamas shooting 1799 01:42:54,990 --> 01:42:56,190 rockets into Israel? 1800 01:42:58,740 --> 01:43:01,440 John C Dvorak: By her not this week, but right after this 1801 01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:03,330 ceasefire, I heard about oh, yeah, no, 1802 01:43:03,330 --> 01:43:05,760 Adam Curry: but it's been all this week. Right up until this 1803 01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,760 morning. Brian of London is there you sending me videos? Oh, 1804 01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:13,620 there they go. They said you'd never hear about that. No, I 1805 01:43:13,620 --> 01:43:14,340 don't know why 1806 01:43:14,370 --> 01:43:17,520 Unknown: I'm calling the carny found itself directly in the 1807 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,090 path of Houthi attack drones. The Pentagon says there are no 1808 01:43:21,090 --> 01:43:23,910 indications that drones were targeting the carny but still 1809 01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:26,940 shot them down. The Iranian backed Houthi rebels in Yemen 1810 01:43:26,940 --> 01:43:30,570 have targeted Israeli own ships in the Red Sea before. We do 1811 01:43:30,570 --> 01:43:33,180 not believe that all three of the ships had ties to Israel, 1812 01:43:33,180 --> 01:43:36,270 and it goes to show you the level of recklessness that the 1813 01:43:36,270 --> 01:43:37,980 Houthis are operating on. 1814 01:43:38,370 --> 01:43:41,730 In October the carny shot down cruise missiles and drones The 1815 01:43:41,730 --> 01:43:45,330 Pentagon says we're fired by Houthis towards Israel last cut. 1816 01:43:45,930 --> 01:43:49,230 Since the Houthis have repeatedly targeted ships in the 1817 01:43:49,230 --> 01:43:53,940 Red Sea, the US Navy shooting them down. And all of this comes 1818 01:43:53,940 --> 01:43:57,030 as Iranian backed militias continue to attack us military 1819 01:43:57,030 --> 01:44:01,050 bases in the Mideast despite us retaliatory strikes. But your we 1820 01:44:01,050 --> 01:44:03,930 spoke to the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff today 1821 01:44:04,110 --> 01:44:07,170 is this evidence that the war in Israel and Gaza has really 1822 01:44:07,170 --> 01:44:09,360 boiled over into a larger regional conflict it could 1823 01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:11,940 be and so that's one of the things that we want to track 1824 01:44:11,940 --> 01:44:12,330 closely. 1825 01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,050 To coordinate we've seen the US strikes have not deterred other 1826 01:44:16,050 --> 01:44:20,430 Iranian backed militias from attacking us bases. So is the US 1827 01:44:20,430 --> 01:44:23,310 now considering any actions specifically against the Houthi 1828 01:44:23,310 --> 01:44:23,940 rebels? 1829 01:44:24,690 --> 01:44:27,660 Well, let's there so far the US has not launched any strikes 1830 01:44:27,660 --> 01:44:30,750 against Houthi rebels recently, but officials here tell us after 1831 01:44:30,750 --> 01:44:33,390 this weekend's attack they are not ruling anything out. 1832 01:44:34,110 --> 01:44:36,720 Adam Curry: They just can't get these are these are the wrong 1833 01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,500 reports. If they want to get a reason to bomb Iran, they've got 1834 01:44:40,500 --> 01:44:44,940 to do something different this is not working stinks in their 1835 01:44:44,940 --> 01:44:47,040 long to the stink long, 1836 01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,800 John C Dvorak: way too long. But the next with the next one is 1837 01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:53,310 interesting because I think has a piece of info besides the fact 1838 01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:55,830 that you've seen these maps they keep showing. It looks like we 1839 01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:58,350 have about 20 bases in this area. These 1840 01:44:58,350 --> 01:45:01,800 Adam Curry: areas. Yeah, parallel Oh, Monica. Yes, 1841 01:45:01,830 --> 01:45:03,990 John C Dvorak: geez. Well anyway, let's get the CBS report 1842 01:45:03,990 --> 01:45:06,330 out of the way. Yeah. Additionally, this is the one I 1843 01:45:06,330 --> 01:45:08,880 think that's the most interesting. The escalating 1844 01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,730 Unknown: violence in Gaza is raising tensions across the 1845 01:45:11,730 --> 01:45:12,870 entire region today. 1846 01:45:12,870 --> 01:45:16,170 Today the White House pointed the finger directly at Iran, 1847 01:45:16,410 --> 01:45:19,200 after an American warship was forced to shoot down multiple 1848 01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,440 drones that were targeting various commercial ships in the 1849 01:45:22,440 --> 01:45:23,430 Red Sea stop 1850 01:45:23,430 --> 01:45:26,070 John C Dvorak: every second. Have we been pointing the finger 1851 01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:31,020 at Iran since the first episode since this whole thing began in 1852 01:45:31,020 --> 01:45:35,400 October 7. Yes, and I just why is this like she make it out to 1853 01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:37,560 be sounded like it's new. I 1854 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,740 Adam Curry: realized what they're doing wrong. Ellison hit 1855 01:45:40,740 --> 01:45:45,810 me. They need to intersperse these reports with those shots 1856 01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:50,070 of Iranians going Death to America Death to America. That's 1857 01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:53,610 what they need to put in there. This is not working. That 1858 01:45:53,610 --> 01:45:55,710 John C Dvorak: would work. Yeah, I liked that idea. If I was 1859 01:45:55,710 --> 01:45:58,800 producing I was there's no reasoning deputy everything else 1860 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,890 they do is out of context. Yeah, you might as well do you 1861 01:46:01,890 --> 01:46:04,980 Adam Curry: know when you get some moolah as they're going out 1862 01:46:04,980 --> 01:46:08,340 of death to America, Death to America, then they can say the 1863 01:46:08,340 --> 01:46:12,330 chanting Death to America, Death to America and the ship and the 1864 01:46:12,330 --> 01:46:13,650 shoot and chips whatever. 1865 01:46:13,860 --> 01:46:15,750 John C Dvorak: You got a good thing or not produces you gotta 1866 01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:17,910 bring it home. You got to personalize this. We have the 1867 01:46:18,450 --> 01:46:19,920 whole country in flames. 1868 01:46:19,980 --> 01:46:22,980 Unknown: We're targeting various commercial ships in the Red Sea. 1869 01:46:23,550 --> 01:46:26,070 Mr. David Martin is at the Pentagon with new details. 1870 01:46:26,490 --> 01:46:32,190 Martin Rooney and backed Houthi rebels in Yemen had already 1871 01:46:32,190 --> 01:46:36,000 hijacked one commercial vessel in the Red Sea. And now they 1872 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:39,240 have attacked three more, hitting them with anti ship 1873 01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,630 missiles. National Security Adviser Jake Salvini. 1874 01:46:42,750 --> 01:46:44,970 And attacks on commercial shipping and international 1875 01:46:44,970 --> 01:46:47,160 waters are totally unacceptable and have to stop. 1876 01:46:47,550 --> 01:46:51,390 The Houthi said vowed publicly to attack Israeli shipping. But 1877 01:46:51,390 --> 01:46:54,600 none of the vessels hit on Sunday had a current Israeli 1878 01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:55,200 connection. 1879 01:46:55,440 --> 01:46:59,010 It goes to show you the level of recklessness that the Houthis 1880 01:46:59,010 --> 01:47:00,210 are operating on. 1881 01:47:00,420 --> 01:47:03,780 Solomon blamed Iran as much as the Houthis. We 1882 01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:06,090 are talking about the Houthis here they're the ones with their 1883 01:47:06,090 --> 01:47:10,020 finger on the trigger. Oh, that gun, the weapons by Iran 1884 01:47:10,020 --> 01:47:11,910 supplied by Iran. Three 1885 01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:14,970 Houthi drones flew toward an American destroyer in the Red 1886 01:47:14,970 --> 01:47:18,150 Sea, which had answered the distress calls from the ships 1887 01:47:18,150 --> 01:47:21,960 under attack. The USS Kearney shot the drones down even though 1888 01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,030 it was not the intended target. 1889 01:47:24,270 --> 01:47:31,320 If left unchecked, this could get more serious and more 1890 01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:32,010 prevalent. 1891 01:47:32,340 --> 01:47:36,360 retired admiral Jamie fogo says, with one carrier task force in 1892 01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:40,050 the Mediterranean and another in the Persian Gulf, the US has 1893 01:47:40,050 --> 01:47:42,930 more than enough firepower with which to retaliate, 1894 01:47:43,230 --> 01:47:47,340 taking out the missile prior to hitting the target and taking 1895 01:47:47,340 --> 01:47:49,920 out the launcher. We're perfectly capable of doing that. 1896 01:47:50,490 --> 01:47:51,960 Now. A US 1897 01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:56,100 official tells CBS News The Pentagon is considering striking 1898 01:47:56,100 --> 01:48:00,390 targets in Yemen, but warns that would only give the Houthis 1899 01:48:00,570 --> 01:48:03,840 exactly what they want, which is to provoke a wider Middle East 1900 01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:07,740 war. There was one retaliatory strike in the region this 1901 01:48:07,740 --> 01:48:12,810 weekend, when a US drone killed five Iraqi militants as they 1902 01:48:12,810 --> 01:48:15,240 were preparing to attack American troops. 1903 01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:18,570 Adam Curry: As they were preparing. 1904 01:48:19,590 --> 01:48:22,650 John C Dvorak: First they read their minds. Yeah. And they're 1905 01:48:22,650 --> 01:48:27,900 Iraqis. This was not Iranians Iraqis. What was that all about? 1906 01:48:28,380 --> 01:48:31,380 And we said that we played a clip about three show two, three 1907 01:48:31,380 --> 01:48:36,810 shows ago from Al Jazeera, where the Iraqi government told us to 1908 01:48:36,810 --> 01:48:38,640 get the hell out of there because you're killing our 1909 01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:42,930 people for no good reason. Remember that? Yes. Yes. And so 1910 01:48:42,930 --> 01:48:46,350 this seems to be something going on in Iraq. That's not kosher. 1911 01:48:48,750 --> 01:48:51,480 Yeah, it's using the word kosher. Probably the wrong 1912 01:48:51,480 --> 01:48:52,590 context choice 1913 01:48:52,590 --> 01:49:00,000 Adam Curry: of words. I don't take everybody by JC grand 1914 01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:08,550 experiment who parents don't read from ABC. I do have two 1915 01:49:08,610 --> 01:49:12,540 quick observations with observatory clips that I thought 1916 01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:18,090 I'd like to share. This is from NBC. This is the possibility of 1917 01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:21,510 although I've already seen video of it on telegram so it must be 1918 01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:24,090 real as a possibility the following Mayhap 1919 01:49:25,110 --> 01:49:28,200 Unknown: Israel says it's destroying Hamas in Gaza above 1920 01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:33,180 ground and below, targeting what it says are 300 miles of Hamas 1921 01:49:33,210 --> 01:49:37,050 tunnels. Military officials showed NBC news videos they say 1922 01:49:37,110 --> 01:49:41,460 were taken in the northern Gaza City of Beit Hanoun. A soldier 1923 01:49:41,460 --> 01:49:45,660 points to a Hamas tunnel outside of a classroom. Israel has blown 1924 01:49:45,660 --> 01:49:50,220 up some now a US official tells NBC News The Israeli military is 1925 01:49:50,220 --> 01:49:54,300 exploring a new tactic flooding the tunnels with seawater. 1926 01:49:54,510 --> 01:49:57,930 Adam Curry: Now it's it's interesting they always say sea 1927 01:49:57,930 --> 01:50:03,510 water and They always add that in there. And this triggered. 1928 01:50:03,900 --> 01:50:06,930 This is biblical. Now this is this is what's interesting about 1929 01:50:06,930 --> 01:50:12,330 it, judges 945, New International Version. All that 1930 01:50:12,330 --> 01:50:15,780 day I've been Melek pressed his attack against the city until he 1931 01:50:15,780 --> 01:50:18,780 had captured it and killed its people. Then he destroyed the 1932 01:50:18,780 --> 01:50:22,500 city and scattered salt over it. I'm telling you, these people, 1933 01:50:22,530 --> 01:50:27,360 this whole region is is biblically nuts. Yeah, totally 1934 01:50:27,390 --> 01:50:28,890 going in saying 1935 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,660 John C Dvorak: that that report from Richard angle, which is 1936 01:50:33,660 --> 01:50:38,100 questionable, I have a very short 24 Second Gaza report from 1937 01:50:38,100 --> 01:50:41,640 NBC, which is I think it was connected to that what you just 1938 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:45,030 played. There's an anomaly in here and I want to just mention 1939 01:50:45,030 --> 01:50:48,000 it for a minute because it's gotten on my nerves. I mentioned 1940 01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:51,030 last show now I'm gonna mention it again, intensifying 1941 01:50:51,060 --> 01:50:53,610 Unknown: up and down the Besiege. Strip. Israeli forces 1942 01:50:53,610 --> 01:50:56,550 say they're battling three Hamas strongholds, two in the north, 1943 01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,250 and one in the south. The Israeli military says it's 1944 01:50:59,250 --> 01:51:02,910 launched around 250 airstrikes across Gaza. In just the past 1945 01:51:02,910 --> 01:51:03,450 day alone. 1946 01:51:03,480 --> 01:51:06,540 The Israeli military also releasing this video saying 1947 01:51:06,570 --> 01:51:10,140 troops uncovered the largest stockpile of weapons so far in 1948 01:51:10,140 --> 01:51:13,650 the Gaza Strip. NBC News cannot verify that claim or when 1949 01:51:13,650 --> 01:51:15,810 exactly this footage was recorded. Oh, 1950 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,360 Adam Curry: because they got it from telegram? Well, 1951 01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:20,670 John C Dvorak: I don't care about that. How come they make 1952 01:51:20,670 --> 01:51:24,510 that they do the disclaimer on that, but they never do to the 1953 01:51:24,510 --> 01:51:29,220 disclaimer on the number of dead know that the Ministry of Truth 1954 01:51:29,250 --> 01:51:33,990 up in Gaza says was said we got 15,000 dead. And they never 1955 01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:36,600 watched a disclaimer for that. There's no we don't have any 1956 01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:40,590 verification of that. But yet, when the Israelis put out some 1957 01:51:40,590 --> 01:51:44,340 information like that, the cache of weapons, they put on a 1958 01:51:44,340 --> 01:51:47,910 disclaimer. And I would say this is related to the mention of the 1959 01:51:47,910 --> 01:51:51,000 fact that all these missiles are flying in there and nobody's 1960 01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:57,360 covering it. They NBC in particular is anti Israel. And 1961 01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:59,280 not just gonna put that out there. Yeah, not 1962 01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,400 Adam Curry: just that, but I think that it we we only tracked 1963 01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,920 it a little bit when the whole Supreme Court thing was coming 1964 01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:09,480 down in Israel, which preceded all of this mess. Israel has 1965 01:52:09,510 --> 01:52:12,600 really had really gone woke you'll recall that Sir Brian 1966 01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:17,310 London, was explaining to us what these protests were about. 1967 01:52:17,610 --> 01:52:21,270 Then it was really it was like he said, it's comparable to 1968 01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:24,780 black lives matter in the United States. Which means which which 1969 01:52:24,780 --> 01:52:29,070 to me means it'll have a similar outcome where a few there's 1970 01:52:29,100 --> 01:52:32,910 millions, hundreds of millions of dollars goes in and then it 1971 01:52:32,940 --> 01:52:37,470 goes away cities are destroyed and the people make off with the 1972 01:52:37,500 --> 01:52:40,710 with the loot and you don't hear from again, and that's the end 1973 01:52:40,710 --> 01:52:44,880 of it. And now, Turkish radio and television TRT I love 1974 01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,860 getting their slant on things because of course they hate 1975 01:52:46,860 --> 01:52:51,750 Israel. They're bringing up something that has changed in 1976 01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:55,650 Israeli politics. And here comes 1977 01:52:55,740 --> 01:52:58,530 Unknown: another crisis seems to be brewing for Israeli Prime 1978 01:52:58,530 --> 01:53:02,580 Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. And this time, it's with his defense 1979 01:53:02,580 --> 01:53:06,300 minister, you have Galland. The two were to host the joint 1980 01:53:06,300 --> 01:53:09,720 conference on Saturday. But gallant was on our show. 1981 01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:13,350 I suggested to the defense minister tonight to hold a joint 1982 01:53:13,350 --> 01:53:16,620 press conference and he decided what he decided the 1983 01:53:16,620 --> 01:53:20,250 two aren't strangers to disputes. Netanyahu had fire 1984 01:53:20,250 --> 01:53:23,970 gallons in March for objecting to his controversial judicial 1985 01:53:23,970 --> 01:53:27,960 reform proposal. Gallons dismissal was reversed weeks 1986 01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:31,650 later, and the proposed legislation passed but being 1987 01:53:31,650 --> 01:53:35,370 challenged in the Supreme Court my last one October turbine, 1988 01:53:35,370 --> 01:53:37,020 Antonia Well, unfortunately, 1989 01:53:37,020 --> 01:53:40,080 there is a tension between Netanyahu and gallant and this 1990 01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,710 is not new. Several months ago, Netanyahu decided to dismiss 1991 01:53:43,710 --> 01:53:47,250 Scarlet from his position as defense minister. But frankly, 1992 01:53:47,310 --> 01:53:51,570 this is what distinguishes Netanyahu cannot see anyone in 1993 01:53:51,570 --> 01:53:54,750 the minister taking independent steps that might be considered a 1994 01:53:54,750 --> 01:53:56,250 threat to Netanyahu. And 1995 01:53:56,250 --> 01:53:59,610 yet the rift between Netanyahu and gallant has deepened because 1996 01:53:59,610 --> 01:54:02,790 of the ongoing war, and the Prime Minister is facing 1997 01:54:02,790 --> 01:54:05,820 mounting pressure domestically for the security and 1998 01:54:05,820 --> 01:54:09,330 intelligence lapses that happened on October 7, and 1999 01:54:09,330 --> 01:54:13,650 internationally to accept the ceasefire. The latest polls show 2000 01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:18,210 his popularity has plummeted to an all time low, and it's 2001 01:54:18,210 --> 01:54:21,750 believed that veteran politician has sought to prevent other 2002 01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:26,010 members of a security cabinet including Galland from receiving 2003 01:54:26,010 --> 01:54:29,850 credit for securing the release of Israelis under the hostage 2004 01:54:29,850 --> 01:54:30,090 deal. 2005 01:54:30,930 --> 01:54:32,970 Adam Curry: Sounds to me like they're going to end this the 2006 01:54:32,970 --> 01:54:37,770 same way they're going to end Ukraine. Bibi gets the BB takes 2007 01:54:37,770 --> 01:54:41,730 the blame for everything. That's what seems like 2008 01:54:42,300 --> 01:54:45,870 John C Dvorak: that's what Bill that's that's a good plan. They 2009 01:54:45,870 --> 01:54:48,480 Adam Curry: should hurry up. Because it's messy. 2010 01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:52,680 John C Dvorak: That means do as much damage as you can before 2011 01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:53,820 that happens. Yes. 2012 01:54:53,850 --> 01:54:57,750 Adam Curry: In biblical fashion. Sambal and even people who hate 2013 01:54:57,750 --> 01:54:59,970 Bibi are all like yeah, we still got to do this 2014 01:55:02,669 --> 01:55:03,599 John C Dvorak: That's difficult. 2015 01:55:05,190 --> 01:55:08,670 Adam Curry: And, you know, as in the West, we can't really 2016 01:55:08,670 --> 01:55:12,180 imagine what that's like, we can't imagine this, this or 2017 01:55:12,180 --> 01:55:15,930 this, you know, centuries old dispute that just keeps on 2018 01:55:15,930 --> 01:55:19,860 going. It's hard for people to imagine and looking at it from a 2019 01:55:19,860 --> 01:55:24,420 Western lens is wrong. We just We just can't imagine what this 2020 01:55:24,420 --> 01:55:27,810 is like. There's no way we're going to what Europe is going to 2021 01:55:27,810 --> 01:55:28,140 learn. 2022 01:55:29,370 --> 01:55:31,530 John C Dvorak: Well, Europe's always close to it. Yeah, 2023 01:55:31,620 --> 01:55:35,250 Europe's gonna learn. We always slide somehow we get out of the 2024 01:55:35,250 --> 01:55:39,480 deal at some point. Yeah, we're isolated. 2025 01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,170 Adam Curry: We are we're landlocked. We're ocean locked. 2026 01:55:43,740 --> 01:55:47,400 John C Dvorak: We're ocean locked ocean logs. I have a 2027 01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:54,540 couple of other things here that I wanted to play this for you. 2028 01:55:55,530 --> 01:55:57,240 Adam Curry: The troll was like we're assholes. Well, yeah, 2029 01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:57,810 there's that. 2030 01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,540 John C Dvorak: Yes, you want to provide a mental health crisis 2031 01:56:03,540 --> 01:56:04,590 of pilots? 2032 01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:09,630 Adam Curry: Yes, yes, there is a large mental health. That's why 2033 01:56:09,630 --> 01:56:12,330 pilots are doing shrooms. 2034 01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:15,570 John C Dvorak: You here's the mental health of pilots. I want 2035 01:56:15,570 --> 01:56:18,720 to get your feedback on I got this clips for you. Okay, the 2036 01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:20,850 Unknown: mental health of America's commercial airline 2037 01:56:20,850 --> 01:56:24,030 pilots is taking center stage today at the nation's capitol. 2038 01:56:24,090 --> 01:56:27,300 The National Transportation Safety Board or NTSB is holding 2039 01:56:27,300 --> 01:56:29,940 a summit on that issue in Washington on Monday, the 2040 01:56:29,940 --> 01:56:32,550 Federal Aviation Administration announced a new committee to 2041 01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:35,640 look at the pilot mental health and identify barriers that 2042 01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,850 discourage pilots from reporting mental health issues. NBC News 2043 01:56:38,850 --> 01:56:42,420 aviation correspondent Tom Costello has more. When 2044 01:56:42,420 --> 01:56:45,990 you board a flight, you assume the pilot is mentally fit to 2045 01:56:45,990 --> 01:56:49,530 fly. But aviation and mental health experts say current 2046 01:56:49,530 --> 01:56:53,250 regulations cause too many pilots to keep their struggles a 2047 01:56:53,250 --> 01:56:58,110 secret, leading to mental health breakdowns some in flight. Today 2048 01:56:58,110 --> 01:57:01,440 the NTSB is holding a summit with experts to develop 2049 01:57:01,470 --> 01:57:02,460 solutions. 2050 01:57:02,550 --> 01:57:05,940 What's unsafe is not getting people the help they deserve. 2051 01:57:06,060 --> 01:57:06,600 Take the 2052 01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:10,470 case of veteran pilot Joseph Emerson, the guy that tried to 2053 01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:15,330 step into the cockpit in October Emerson tried to shut down the 2054 01:57:15,330 --> 01:57:18,870 engines of an Alaska Air flight while hitching a ride in the 2055 01:57:18,870 --> 01:57:23,340 cockpit. A grand jury is now indicted him on 83 misdemeanor 2056 01:57:23,340 --> 01:57:26,970 counts of reckless endangerment and one count of endangering an 2057 01:57:26,970 --> 01:57:30,930 aircraft. Emerson has pleaded not guilty in court filings, he 2058 01:57:30,930 --> 01:57:34,890 claimed he was having a mental health emergency. He told police 2059 01:57:34,890 --> 01:57:38,460 he'd been depressed for six years had recently lost a friend 2060 01:57:38,460 --> 01:57:42,660 and had taken psychedelic mushrooms 48 hours prior to the 2061 01:57:42,660 --> 01:57:46,860 flight. Experts say contributing to the bigger problem. The FAA 2062 01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:51,150 relies on pilots to self report mental health issues, while 2063 01:57:51,150 --> 01:57:55,080 periodic medical exams require pilots to disclose if they're in 2064 01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:58,770 mental health treatment. The exams do not include in depth 2065 01:57:58,770 --> 01:58:02,640 psychological evaluations, or recent inspector general report 2066 01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:06,720 found this limits the FAA is ability to mitigate safety risks 2067 01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:09,870 because pilots are reluctant to disclose mental health 2068 01:58:09,870 --> 01:58:13,800 conditions due to the stigma and the fear, it will hurt their 2069 01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:15,420 careers. This 2070 01:58:15,420 --> 01:58:19,200 Adam Curry: is absolutely true. And I've heard I've heard a lot 2071 01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:22,590 about this. There's a huge stigma you have to self report. 2072 01:58:22,770 --> 01:58:25,830 And pilots, of course are not going to self report. But that's 2073 01:58:25,830 --> 01:58:29,400 no different from train conductors, audit people on the 2074 01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:33,630 road. You're your neighbors, everybody's bus driver, 2075 01:58:33,630 --> 01:58:36,930 everybody's in a mental health crisis. Because we went through 2076 01:58:36,930 --> 01:58:38,490 a very traumatic time. 2077 01:58:39,930 --> 01:58:42,570 John C Dvorak: Yeah, and they were and there was traumatized. 2078 01:58:42,780 --> 01:58:46,140 Adam Curry: That's the definition of government. Yes. 2079 01:58:46,500 --> 01:58:51,330 And a lot of pilots may have they, they they were forced to 2080 01:58:51,330 --> 01:58:55,200 take medicine, they didn't want to under severe duress. Some of 2081 01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:59,010 them have other health problems they don't want to disclose. And 2082 01:58:59,010 --> 01:59:03,990 the same goes for air traffic control. Yeah, but you know, 2083 01:59:04,020 --> 01:59:07,260 this is all just a prelude to getting the pilots out of the 2084 01:59:07,260 --> 01:59:11,040 cockpit. You know, I'm waiting for Elon Musk to pop up and go 2085 01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:15,960 you go I have a solution. AI can fly them really. 2086 01:59:17,340 --> 01:59:18,510 John C Dvorak: Like part two of this. 2087 01:59:18,540 --> 01:59:21,420 Unknown: We need to have a system that allows people to be 2088 01:59:21,750 --> 01:59:24,750 more forthcoming and to have treatment for issues that 2089 01:59:24,750 --> 01:59:27,360 shouldn't keep you out of the cockpit. On Monday, the FAA 2090 01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:29,940 announced it is creating a special committee now to 2091 01:59:29,940 --> 01:59:33,750 identify barriers that discourage pilots from reporting 2092 01:59:33,750 --> 01:59:37,080 mental health issues getting fired. He says most conditions 2093 01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:41,640 if treated will not disqualify a pilot from flying. We have 2094 01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:48,030 to normalize mental health care we have to make sure the choice 2095 01:59:48,060 --> 01:59:51,540 isn't received treatment or fly. 2096 01:59:53,310 --> 01:59:56,280 The Airline Pilots Association says it supports these 2097 01:59:56,280 --> 02:00:00,510 initiatives and also wants the FAA to fund a peer support 2098 02:00:00,510 --> 02:00:04,380 training program for pilots that would encourage them to confide 2099 02:00:04,410 --> 02:00:07,770 in each other and help connect them with mental health 2100 02:00:07,770 --> 02:00:11,370 resources to keep them in the cockpit back to you. 2101 02:00:12,719 --> 02:00:14,639 Adam Curry: So do you have any other questions because this is 2102 02:00:14,639 --> 02:00:18,449 not new pilots are known drinkers. 2103 02:00:19,830 --> 02:00:22,380 John C Dvorak: They why is it why they make a news out of it? 2104 02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:28,560 Well, I have a prelude to the pilot list plane now no one's 2105 02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:30,660 gonna fly in for at least a decade 2106 02:00:30,690 --> 02:00:32,310 Adam Curry: they really don't want you flying at all they 2107 02:00:32,310 --> 02:00:34,620 don't want they don't want you to leave your home. They want 2108 02:00:34,620 --> 02:00:37,950 you to stay in your 15 Minute city you want you to shut up 2109 02:00:37,950 --> 02:00:41,130 John C Dvorak: city that's to get the 15 Minute cities to give 2110 02:00:41,130 --> 02:00:41,640 away now 2111 02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:45,000 Adam Curry: she want you to shut up stay at home work by remote 2112 02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:48,720 vote democrat vote Democrat don't go anywhere and get be 2113 02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:53,310 trans. I don't know. It's they don't want you flying. That is 2114 02:00:53,310 --> 02:00:57,840 so obvious. No. Then they're going to make it very expensive. 2115 02:00:58,050 --> 02:01:01,500 With carbon credits. We'll we'll still be doing the show when 2116 02:01:01,500 --> 02:01:05,670 that happens. And they want to bring in more bullcrap AI 2117 02:01:05,670 --> 02:01:09,570 stories, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. I'm just waiting. And where's Elon? 2118 02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:13,620 Come on, tell me, you know? Well, again, it's even easier 2119 02:01:13,710 --> 02:01:18,360 and easier to have the AI pilot. Rockets. 2120 02:01:18,420 --> 02:01:21,420 John C Dvorak: Have you seen? I guess Calacanis has a new 2121 02:01:21,420 --> 02:01:24,810 podcast called The all in podcast and he's bringing some 2122 02:01:25,470 --> 02:01:28,260 that for years the all in No, I didn't know it was that long. 2123 02:01:28,290 --> 02:01:29,580 Adam Curry: Well, why are you watching? 2124 02:01:29,610 --> 02:01:31,260 John C Dvorak: It looks different on this thing. He 2125 02:01:31,260 --> 02:01:35,460 because he had Tucker on he went on and on about stuff. And, and 2126 02:01:35,460 --> 02:01:38,190 there was a very couple very funny moments in there where he 2127 02:01:38,190 --> 02:01:43,260 was acting as though him and Tucker are on the same league as 2128 02:01:43,260 --> 02:01:47,160 interviewers. But I don't know if you've seen this, but but 2129 02:01:47,220 --> 02:01:51,960 he's got a different look. Calacanis Canis looks like the 2130 02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:55,500 tenor in a Canadian barbershop quartet. 2131 02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:57,480 Adam Curry: That's not different. That's his look. 2132 02:01:57,930 --> 02:02:01,500 John C Dvorak: I don't I don't remember him looking that. That 2133 02:02:01,500 --> 02:02:02,250 square? 2134 02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:06,600 Adam Curry: No. Do you have a clip for this? 2135 02:02:06,900 --> 02:02:09,180 John C Dvorak: No, I didn't I decide not to get a clip for it. 2136 02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:11,670 It's probably a publicity, 2137 02:02:11,730 --> 02:02:14,820 Adam Curry: it's probably better. Probably better. What is 2138 02:02:14,820 --> 02:02:19,440 Tucker doing? What is Tucker doing? He just he's just doing 2139 02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:23,340 interviews everywhere. And then he puts the thing on x and what 2140 02:02:23,340 --> 02:02:25,950 is he doing? What does anybody doing? You know, the podcast 2141 02:02:25,950 --> 02:02:30,570 industrial complex finally, finally crumbled this past week. 2142 02:02:31,020 --> 02:02:32,820 glorious moment. One 2143 02:02:32,850 --> 02:02:35,400 Unknown: out of every six employees of Spotify won't be 2144 02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:38,220 around next year. The company's making those deep cuts to its 2145 02:02:38,220 --> 02:02:41,490 payroll as it looks to cut expenses. top executives blame 2146 02:02:41,490 --> 02:02:44,610 higher interest rates during the day make borrowing for capital 2147 02:02:44,610 --> 02:02:47,760 expenditures more expensive. The affected employees will receive 2148 02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:51,120 several months severance the cut follows two previous layoffs 2149 02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:54,150 this year a total of 800 employees were let go 2150 02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:59,670 Adam Curry: there you go. Right that $1 billion dollar 2151 02:02:59,670 --> 02:03:01,170 investment worked out great. 2152 02:03:01,410 --> 02:03:03,270 John C Dvorak: Well I did for the guys who got the billion. 2153 02:03:04,110 --> 02:03:06,840 Adam Curry: Well, what are we drinking? Oh, it's 2154 02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:09,750 John C Dvorak: a Lagunitas fresher. 2155 02:03:10,170 --> 02:03:14,250 Adam Curry: Oh, and poppy or hoppy? Hoppy so there's your 2156 02:03:14,250 --> 02:03:16,950 drinking beer basically? No, 2157 02:03:16,950 --> 02:03:20,760 John C Dvorak: it's just a hop flavor is actually mildly hot 2158 02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:26,040 flavored sparkling water and who makes like it's everybody's 2159 02:03:26,220 --> 02:03:27,660 everybody's talking about it 2160 02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:35,820 Adam Curry: everyone there are now it's beer basically it's 2161 02:03:35,820 --> 02:03:36,030 like a 2162 02:03:36,030 --> 02:03:38,970 John C Dvorak: Chandi beers water that has hops in it 2163 02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:40,470 Adam Curry: you're drinking no candy 2164 02:03:40,980 --> 02:03:45,360 John C Dvorak: no no malt there's no there's no alcohol is 2165 02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:45,690 no 2166 02:03:46,380 --> 02:03:49,110 Adam Curry: Do they still make that on the can anywhere shandy 2167 02:03:49,620 --> 02:03:53,040 I haven't seen it for years. Oh man this beer was seven up I 2168 02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:55,890 think and this is the member 2169 02:03:55,890 --> 02:03:59,430 John C Dvorak: the beam and coke in a can have 2170 02:03:59,850 --> 02:04:02,280 Adam Curry: never had it. That was That was during the show? I 2171 02:04:02,280 --> 02:04:08,250 think I recall that. It was a brief, a brief thing. No, I like 2172 02:04:08,250 --> 02:04:12,930 this Shandy. It's like 2% Alcohol Whoo. Yeah, you could 2173 02:04:12,930 --> 02:04:16,440 buy it in the can beautiful wood that I'd like to thank you for 2174 02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:19,590 your courage since you're drinking shandy on the on the 2175 02:04:19,590 --> 02:04:23,460 job and say hello to my friend on the other end Ladies 2176 02:04:23,460 --> 02:04:26,100 Gentlemen please welcome the one and only way with That's the man 2177 02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:28,560 who put the sea in the companion products the one and only Mr. 2178 02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:29,130 Johnson 2179 02:04:33,090 --> 02:04:36,090 John C Dvorak: Well, in the morning you must round curry in 2180 02:04:36,090 --> 02:04:38,310 the morning to all ships see boots on the ground feed near 2181 02:04:38,310 --> 02:04:41,820 subs in the water. And all the damos nights out there in the 2182 02:04:41,820 --> 02:04:42,300 mornings 2183 02:04:42,300 --> 02:04:44,700 Adam Curry: for the trolls Hello trolls hold I know I'm coming to 2184 02:04:44,700 --> 02:04:55,350 you early So hands up. 1846 on the troll count 1846 is right on 2185 02:04:55,350 --> 02:04:59,130 the money. We are slowly moving our executive producer segment 2186 02:04:59,130 --> 02:05:01,920 more towards the begin thing of the show as our PhDs have 2187 02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:05,250 tapered off, of course, the promotion ended. So we're going 2188 02:05:05,250 --> 02:05:09,270 towards the end of I think we only really have eight, eight, 2189 02:05:09,630 --> 02:05:13,320 executive and associate executives today. So this is 2190 02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:15,750 where it just it's just the end of the it's the end of the end 2191 02:05:15,750 --> 02:05:20,670 of the university is how it works. Although the 31st of 2192 02:05:20,670 --> 02:05:24,630 December, or the 33rd December, I think, what is it three to 2193 02:05:24,630 --> 02:05:29,670 one? It's no 31st The 31st is a show day, isn't it? It's like, 2194 02:05:30,390 --> 02:05:33,090 it's like the super. It's like the super 2195 02:05:33,570 --> 02:05:36,660 John C Dvorak: one palindrome. 332123 2196 02:05:36,660 --> 02:05:40,230 Adam Curry: once it's Oh, 123123 There you go. Yeah, it's gonna 2197 02:05:40,230 --> 02:05:43,980 be great. And we'll be doing the show then. And 2198 02:05:43,980 --> 02:05:46,410 John C Dvorak: yeah, 123123 what, I don't know what you can 2199 02:05:46,410 --> 02:05:52,320 do with that. $123 Maybe 123,123 $23,000 would be 2200 02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:54,990 Adam Curry: dynamite. John and Adam will fly in and have dinner 2201 02:05:54,990 --> 02:05:55,950 with you. Oh, yes. 2202 02:05:56,610 --> 02:05:59,610 John C Dvorak: I'll tell you what. $123,000 we will both fly 2203 02:05:59,610 --> 02:06:02,640 in and clean your house. What else? Well, I'm down about the 2204 02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:06,060 house cleaning but we will have dinner. We'll bring a house 2205 02:06:06,180 --> 02:06:07,470 somebody to clean the house. 2206 02:06:08,550 --> 02:06:10,680 Adam Curry: We do love our trolls are trolls are here to 2207 02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:14,910 listen live and to troll. Now. I still have not replied to any 2208 02:06:14,910 --> 02:06:18,900 posts on no agenda social as it just devolves into the 2209 02:06:18,900 --> 02:06:19,380 environment. 2210 02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:23,460 John C Dvorak: Any evidence that you have? I have not I haven't I 2211 02:06:23,460 --> 02:06:25,770 Adam Curry: have not. Well, now you sound like mainstream news. 2212 02:06:26,100 --> 02:06:29,790 I have not. I have not posted anything. Because every single 2213 02:06:29,790 --> 02:06:34,710 time you're sick of it, I'm so sick of it. It's no good. And 2214 02:06:34,710 --> 02:06:37,770 it's not. It's not the you're the one who set it up. But it's 2215 02:06:37,770 --> 02:06:42,150 not the people. You have to understand. It's the system, the 2216 02:06:42,150 --> 02:06:43,110 system, 2217 02:06:43,170 --> 02:06:46,650 John C Dvorak: the message, the media is the message, which is 2218 02:06:46,650 --> 02:06:48,030 the old Marshall McLuhan idea. 2219 02:06:48,060 --> 02:06:50,520 Adam Curry: I would say that's true. Yes. Yeah. He 2220 02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:53,160 John C Dvorak: his theory was that it's not any it's not the 2221 02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:57,480 kind of is nothing but the media itself, whatever mediated books, 2222 02:06:57,720 --> 02:07:03,660 TV, radio, in this case, social media. It has its own. It does 2223 02:07:03,780 --> 02:07:07,530 say it does something to your brain that's very specific to 2224 02:07:07,530 --> 02:07:11,520 the media itself. Correct. Yeah, and it hasn't been it hasn't 2225 02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:16,590 been extrapolated to social media, but McLuhan's idea, but 2226 02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:19,470 that's your basic thought. And, 2227 02:07:19,500 --> 02:07:23,430 Adam Curry: and what's surprising is that it happens 2228 02:07:23,430 --> 02:07:27,480 without algorithms. I thought algorithms made this happen. But 2229 02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:31,770 that's not what it is. People are so narcissistic, they need 2230 02:07:31,770 --> 02:07:35,790 to, you know, post their 1000 memes, then they need to tag me 2231 02:07:35,790 --> 02:07:39,000 and say, I don't care what you say, we're just gonna be like 2232 02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:41,340 this forever, bitch, you know, stuff like that. 2233 02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:46,410 John C Dvorak: And see now? I think this the just yeah, that's 2234 02:07:46,410 --> 02:07:47,010 basically 2235 02:07:47,010 --> 02:07:49,500 Adam Curry: what it is. And then people say, Adam wanted a 2236 02:07:49,500 --> 02:07:52,710 utopia. No, I didn't. It was it was a mastodon, it was cool. I 2237 02:07:52,710 --> 02:07:56,970 just set up a server. And then when it became too much time 2238 02:07:56,970 --> 02:08:00,330 management for me, I just gave up and then, you know, luckily, 2239 02:08:00,660 --> 02:08:03,630 Aaron or took over, but he's not posting much, either. I think 2240 02:08:03,630 --> 02:08:07,380 he's sick of it too. Because that's all that it's that and 2241 02:08:07,380 --> 02:08:11,670 it's not our people. And you know, and a lot of people try to 2242 02:08:11,970 --> 02:08:14,850 manage it. But then when they see someone going off the rails, 2243 02:08:14,850 --> 02:08:17,970 the worst thing you can do is say, Hey, man, calm down. I 2244 02:08:17,970 --> 02:08:21,510 mean, it doesn't work. That'll do it, it doesn't work. And I 2245 02:08:21,510 --> 02:08:25,740 think it's because it's, it's when you can reply to someone 2246 02:08:25,740 --> 02:08:28,890 and create your own thread, and it has the same equal weight 2247 02:08:28,920 --> 02:08:32,520 equal size as the original. There's something fundamentally 2248 02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:35,490 wrong, that doesn't work for human beings. That's just what 2249 02:08:35,490 --> 02:08:39,660 it is. And in that regard, I think Twitter and Facebook and 2250 02:08:39,660 --> 02:08:43,320 Instagram, I agree with Nimrod, Haley, I think you should have 2251 02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:47,880 to register with your real name. Because then it will all go away 2252 02:08:47,910 --> 02:08:50,190 because then no one will do anything anymore. No, 2253 02:08:50,190 --> 02:08:53,400 John C Dvorak: well, what will happen is that people will find 2254 02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:58,110 find workarounds. Well, I work around people are not going to 2255 02:08:58,110 --> 02:09:00,810 do that. They're going to find workarounds and my real name all 2256 02:09:00,810 --> 02:09:03,360 of a sudden is going to be something you know some other 2257 02:09:03,360 --> 02:09:07,440 phony name well we know no way you can't there's no way you can 2258 02:09:07,590 --> 02:09:10,500 police that you can phony up driver's licenses you can 2259 02:09:10,950 --> 02:09:17,160 there's it just gets worked around. Why the meta net invites 2260 02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:21,300 again, the media is the message the internet invites anonymity 2261 02:09:21,300 --> 02:09:26,610 and if you try to squash anonymity, workarounds, like all 2262 02:09:26,610 --> 02:09:30,210 tech, work around comes around, and boom, you got no end and you 2263 02:09:30,210 --> 02:09:32,640 got anonymity again, in a different form. I'm 2264 02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:36,120 Adam Curry: all for anonymity, but you know, on your own blog, 2265 02:09:36,180 --> 02:09:40,440 I'm all for anonymity post away do whatever you want on your on 2266 02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:44,850 your substack not on social media. There I think just just 2267 02:09:44,850 --> 02:09:46,650 to get rid of it. It's not doable. 2268 02:09:47,190 --> 02:09:49,440 John C Dvorak: Now well, you don't get rid of it is that it's 2269 02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:50,280 here to stay? 2270 02:09:50,310 --> 02:09:51,690 Adam Curry: I'm voting for Nikki Haley. 2271 02:09:52,140 --> 02:09:52,590 John C Dvorak: She's gonna 2272 02:09:53,190 --> 02:09:56,610 Adam Curry: she's gonna she's gonna force us on no agenda. No 2273 02:09:56,640 --> 02:09:59,970 John C Dvorak: bigs, nothing she's another blow hard politic. 2274 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,780 Question. I've anyway, I've just given up. I've seen by the way 2275 02:10:03,780 --> 02:10:07,080 you play a clip of Trump saying I'm going to be a dictator for 2276 02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:11,040 one day, and then they've made a big fuss about it. Can I use it 2277 02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:14,190 just kind of a rhetorical question because Trump 2278 02:10:14,190 --> 02:10:20,220 supposedly is it you know, he's the liars liar. And he's 30,000 2279 02:10:20,220 --> 02:10:24,390 lies. How come everything he says is a lie? Except this. 2280 02:10:25,350 --> 02:10:25,740 Former 2281 02:10:25,740 --> 02:10:26,790 Unknown: president? Oh, you guys 2282 02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:29,070 John C Dvorak: take him at his word. Oh, I'm 2283 02:10:29,070 --> 02:10:30,810 Adam Curry: sorry that you want me to play the clip again? Oh, 2284 02:10:30,810 --> 02:10:31,350 yeah. No, I 2285 02:10:31,350 --> 02:10:32,430 John C Dvorak: don't want to play the clip. And I'm just 2286 02:10:32,430 --> 02:10:35,010 gonna say, they say, oh, no, if he says you're gonna be you 2287 02:10:35,010 --> 02:10:37,710 gotta take him at his word. You gonna take him at his word? He's 2288 02:10:37,710 --> 02:10:41,580 been a bullshitter since the get go. And they call him out on 2289 02:10:41,580 --> 02:10:45,990 being one and he's a liar. Liar. But yet in this situation, you 2290 02:10:45,990 --> 02:10:48,960 got to take him at his word. make up their minds. 2291 02:10:49,350 --> 02:10:52,650 Adam Curry: I see. Well, you know, the the line I think is 2292 02:10:52,860 --> 02:10:56,790 when someone tells you what they are, believe them. That's my 2293 02:10:56,790 --> 02:10:59,940 favorite. When someone tells you who they are, you should believe 2294 02:10:59,940 --> 02:11:06,120 them believe. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right. But he's 2295 02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:06,840 John C Dvorak: full of crap. 2296 02:11:07,530 --> 02:11:11,550 Adam Curry: I love all the dislike now. The Bronx, you 2297 02:11:11,550 --> 02:11:14,850 know, all the man on the streets off the job shows up on YouTube 2298 02:11:14,850 --> 02:11:18,930 and on the reels and shorts. Well for Trump. The hood is for 2299 02:11:18,930 --> 02:11:23,220 Trump. They never put that on television. Yeah, 2300 02:11:24,300 --> 02:11:26,790 John C Dvorak: that's the best. They don't put anything 2301 02:11:26,790 --> 02:11:30,720 Adam Curry: on anyway. So I am a big fan of the an anonymous 2302 02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:34,380 trolls in the troll room. I think this is a great outlet. I 2303 02:11:34,380 --> 02:11:37,440 think it's therapeutic. It's very good. If you are not 2304 02:11:37,470 --> 02:11:42,420 already trolling along on show day, which now you have to do it 2305 02:11:42,420 --> 02:11:46,080 live. It does not for everybody. It's not easy for everybody to 2306 02:11:46,080 --> 02:11:50,070 be doing this. But if you can, this is therapeutic. You go on 2307 02:11:50,070 --> 02:11:53,340 there you go nuts. You're gonna have a crap name. You can name 2308 02:11:53,340 --> 02:11:58,950 yourself whatever you want. You can you can insult me. The only 2309 02:11:58,950 --> 02:12:02,610 thing that gets you cut off or kicked off is if you post you 2310 02:12:02,610 --> 02:12:05,010 know, flood post, like post a whole bunch of things in a row. 2311 02:12:05,250 --> 02:12:08,670 Otherwise, here there's white mics as we your white mic. Just 2312 02:12:08,670 --> 02:12:11,250 the fact that he's white. Mike, we hate you, Adam. Yeah, 2313 02:12:11,490 --> 02:12:12,360 exactly. 2314 02:12:12,660 --> 02:12:13,920 John C Dvorak: This is great. Like, 2315 02:12:15,570 --> 02:12:18,090 Adam Curry: we got racist in there. But it's good because 2316 02:12:18,090 --> 02:12:19,410 he's really the big like, I 2317 02:12:19,410 --> 02:12:20,850 John C Dvorak: wonder. It's like, 2318 02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:23,310 Adam Curry: it's like, everybody has this Tourette's when they 2319 02:12:23,310 --> 02:12:29,190 get up. They just go crazy. It's beautiful. And but it's there's 2320 02:12:29,190 --> 02:12:32,820 no permanent record. So you know, it's not gonna hurt you on 2321 02:12:32,820 --> 02:12:36,510 a job interview. You don't have to say who you are. No one's 2322 02:12:36,510 --> 02:12:41,670 tracking your IP address. Nobody cares. Do whatever you want. And 2323 02:12:41,670 --> 02:12:45,030 it's funny. I mean, I'm logged in all the time. I've just 2324 02:12:45,030 --> 02:12:49,380 walked by my computer and they're really going crazy now. 2325 02:12:49,980 --> 02:12:54,030 That's right, let it out trolls let it all out. You can become a 2326 02:12:54,030 --> 02:12:57,840 troll and it you know do what pilots pilot commercial pilot 2327 02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,930 should get in the troll room and just go nuts and say whatever 2328 02:13:00,930 --> 02:13:05,670 they want and feel about their company the FAA you know during 2329 02:13:05,670 --> 02:13:08,970 a pilot podcast because we of course there's no agenda 2330 02:13:08,970 --> 02:13:12,870 stream.com is 24/7 We have all kinds of podcasts on there and a 2331 02:13:12,870 --> 02:13:16,710 lot of them are live and you can just mad just go nuts I'm all 2332 02:13:16,710 --> 02:13:19,500 for that. That is good. Data is held 2333 02:13:19,530 --> 02:13:22,110 John C Dvorak: no way say one's good and the other isn't because 2334 02:13:22,110 --> 02:13:22,500 this is 2335 02:13:22,530 --> 02:13:24,930 Adam Curry: this isn't no record. This goes this scrolls 2336 02:13:24,930 --> 02:13:27,990 off. It's done. Then you can't comment 2337 02:13:28,020 --> 02:13:31,380 John C Dvorak: everything on no agenda social scrolls off the 2338 02:13:31,380 --> 02:13:31,680 eBay, you 2339 02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:33,750 Adam Curry: know what I mean? It's different. It's different. 2340 02:13:34,110 --> 02:13:37,650 And then you sit there refreshing Oh, just reply to my 2341 02:13:37,650 --> 02:13:42,060 post my smite my awesome meme. Did someone do anything yet now? 2342 02:13:43,890 --> 02:13:47,250 You can also go to troll room.io This is where you can listen to 2343 02:13:47,250 --> 02:13:51,780 the stream. There's now all the apps are starting to do the live 2344 02:13:51,780 --> 02:13:55,050 stuff is great at podcast apps.com The modern podcasts 2345 02:13:55,980 --> 02:14:01,410 fountain is doing the live stuff now. Pod verse podcast guru 2346 02:14:01,470 --> 02:14:05,370 curio caster cast thematic everyone's on board now we're 2347 02:14:05,370 --> 02:14:08,820 getting even better. We can do a live concert on December 28 and 2348 02:14:08,820 --> 02:14:13,800 the 21st in video. I mean, we are kicking Spotify ass. 2349 02:14:14,760 --> 02:14:18,900 Pathetic, pathetic over there. And what are we doing with with 2350 02:14:18,900 --> 02:14:24,180 chewing gum with chewing gum and gaffer tape. That's how we do it 2351 02:14:24,240 --> 02:14:29,760 at podcasting. 2.0 We are value for value as you heard earlier. 2352 02:14:30,690 --> 02:14:34,500 You cannot monetize the network. None of it worked. Everyone went 2353 02:14:34,500 --> 02:14:37,770 out of business. It's very sad. I mean, I'm sad for the people 2354 02:14:37,770 --> 02:14:40,140 at Spotify. They already couldn't make money because the 2355 02:14:40,140 --> 02:14:42,990 record companies own everything and the minute the record you 2356 02:14:42,990 --> 02:14:45,510 minute you raise your prices the record companies go okay, we're 2357 02:14:45,510 --> 02:14:49,650 gonna ask more for a license. Which they did. And then you 2358 02:14:49,650 --> 02:14:52,860 know, the whole idea was hey, look at all these millions of 2359 02:14:52,860 --> 02:14:56,640 podcasts for free. Let's make money off of those guys. Yeah, 2360 02:14:56,640 --> 02:15:02,220 how that workout Spotify? No. So I hope those 1000s of people 2361 02:15:02,220 --> 02:15:05,670 will get jobs elsewhere. Or if you're really into podcasting, 2362 02:15:05,670 --> 02:15:08,010 I'm sure you can do if you're willing to stick to take a step 2363 02:15:08,010 --> 02:15:12,390 back and build something over time. I'm not going hide hire 2364 02:15:12,390 --> 02:15:16,620 celebrities and no one cares about. I feel so much better now 2365 02:15:16,710 --> 02:15:22,230 with 10. Producers. There's this great article that runs through 2366 02:15:22,230 --> 02:15:25,650 all the the economics of it. And there were some they were 2367 02:15:25,650 --> 02:15:32,160 getting $100 CPM in 2018. Which is unheard of. 2368 02:15:33,900 --> 02:15:38,280 John C Dvorak: Well, Leo was getting $100 per CPM. Really? 2369 02:15:38,820 --> 02:15:39,360 Adam Curry: Yeah. 2370 02:15:40,290 --> 02:15:40,890 Unknown: Thoroughly 2371 02:15:40,890 --> 02:15:44,490 Adam Curry: on 2015 Maybe or even earlier than that. Well, 2372 02:15:44,490 --> 02:15:46,980 when are we for what was our first year, our first year was 2373 02:15:46,980 --> 02:15:50,310 2008 2007. Okay, where he was 1007, 2374 02:15:50,310 --> 02:15:56,100 John C Dvorak: he started. So it was in the 2008 2009 2010 era, 2375 02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:58,080 he was getting 100 CPE. So that 2376 02:15:58,230 --> 02:16:00,270 Adam Curry: just everyone knows what that means. That means 2377 02:16:00,360 --> 02:16:03,690 1000 $100 per 1000 people that are listening, but here's the 2378 02:16:03,690 --> 02:16:07,830 funny thing. It's not based on people who are listening, it's 2379 02:16:07,830 --> 02:16:15,360 based on downloads, and Apple just released iOS 17, which you 2380 02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:18,810 can't refuse the upgrade. It updates us like you don't own 2381 02:16:18,810 --> 02:16:22,140 your phone. Apple owns your phone. So they update you. And 2382 02:16:22,140 --> 02:16:26,430 now literally, the CEOs of these podcast networks are saying, 2383 02:16:26,730 --> 02:16:29,760 well, you know, our downloads are down because of Apple 2384 02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:32,100 changing the way they do it because Apple now doesn't 2385 02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:35,280 download stuff you're not listening to. So they're 2386 02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:39,510 admitting that they've had at least 15% fraudulent numbers. 2387 02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:42,450 John C Dvorak: Yeah, the whole thing are admitting to saying 2388 02:16:42,630 --> 02:16:46,020 your downloads aren't down. They were exaggerated. 2389 02:16:47,820 --> 02:16:51,270 Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. So we never had to deal with that. 2390 02:16:51,300 --> 02:16:55,200 Now. What did that mean? We never got no Joe Rogan offers. 2391 02:16:56,130 --> 02:16:59,490 That was great English. We also don't have videos. No 2392 02:16:59,490 --> 02:17:04,860 John C Dvorak: Joe Rogan. And Texas and my mom just gonna talk 2393 02:17:04,860 --> 02:17:07,830 like this. From now on. I don't care what you think I love 2394 02:17:07,830 --> 02:17:11,970 Adam Curry: my truck. Is that guy? Where's that guy? I love my 2395 02:17:11,970 --> 02:17:16,020 truck. Where's that guy? I love my truck. And I love what I do. 2396 02:17:16,020 --> 02:17:24,570 And I love what I do exactly. And, incredibly, when we went to 2397 02:17:24,600 --> 02:17:28,320 what we coined as the value for value model, which means hey, 2398 02:17:28,350 --> 02:17:31,320 here's everything. It's all premium. It's all top notch. 2399 02:17:31,320 --> 02:17:33,960 We're not putting anything behind a paywall. There's no 2400 02:17:33,960 --> 02:17:38,880 levels, there's no tobacco secret room, secret room, this 2401 02:17:38,880 --> 02:17:42,060 is us. Take us how you want take whatever you want, do whatever 2402 02:17:42,060 --> 02:17:46,500 you want to do with us. Start your own thing on the side, the 2403 02:17:46,500 --> 02:17:49,620 key point to us do it all. All we ask us for time, talent, 2404 02:17:49,620 --> 02:17:52,590 treasure, whatever its value, whatever the value is, you get 2405 02:17:52,590 --> 02:17:57,240 out of it, you send it back. Whenever it's handy for you. 2406 02:17:57,960 --> 02:18:01,230 That's why we're still here. 16 years later, can't say that 2407 02:18:01,230 --> 02:18:05,430 about the top award winning put there were shows that weren't P 2408 02:18:05,430 --> 02:18:10,170 buddies, a Peabody Award at Spotify that are getting x now. 2409 02:18:11,070 --> 02:18:15,060 Yeah, yeah. And we also don't have a video of us sitting with 2410 02:18:15,060 --> 02:18:18,300 our headphones on Ooh, look at us. Cool. I gotta use that. You 2411 02:18:18,300 --> 02:18:22,410 know what? Cans cans you should I just do it like a pool. Boy 2412 02:18:22,410 --> 02:18:25,530 beanie would look good on you. That'd be hilarious. It would be 2413 02:18:25,530 --> 02:18:27,840 good. We should do one with video where you were one of 2414 02:18:27,840 --> 02:18:33,150 those beanies? Yeah, that would look great, man. Yeah. Okay, 2415 02:18:33,180 --> 02:18:36,810 well, we can do live video. We can do it on the modern podcast 2416 02:18:36,810 --> 02:18:40,260 apps. So instead it just value for value. Now. We have 2417 02:18:40,530 --> 02:18:44,220 phenomenal time, talent and treasure contributions. One that 2418 02:18:44,220 --> 02:18:48,000 has taken up a lot of time and a lot of talent and and has worked 2419 02:18:48,030 --> 02:18:52,110 successfully for over a decade is no agenda Art Generator, 2420 02:18:53,610 --> 02:19:04,080 which unfortunately, had some kind of critical error. And sort 2421 02:19:04,080 --> 02:19:09,000 of all or something deaths or Paul couture. I hope it comes 2422 02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:12,810 back because you know what's really rough about this? All we 2423 02:19:12,810 --> 02:19:16,650 do in the modern podcast apps, we have chapters and we have art 2424 02:19:16,680 --> 02:19:20,790 that goes with the chapters. They were all linked from the no 2425 02:19:20,790 --> 02:19:25,980 agenda, Art Generator. They're all broken. All of those images 2426 02:19:25,980 --> 02:19:28,440 are broken, except, you know, moving forward, we're going to 2427 02:19:28,440 --> 02:19:29,400 do it a different way. 2428 02:19:30,360 --> 02:19:34,590 John C Dvorak: Just use the main image. You can do that. No, but 2429 02:19:35,550 --> 02:19:38,760 I know what you mean. Yeah, it was. It was cool. Yeah. Well, 2430 02:19:38,759 --> 02:19:41,909 Adam Curry: it'll come back and and I have faith in Sir Paul 2431 02:19:41,909 --> 02:19:45,749 couture. I really do. And we have backups of the whole site. 2432 02:19:45,749 --> 02:19:50,519 So we can always bring back the images and the links are a new, 2433 02:19:51,089 --> 02:19:53,999 a new domain, but he still hasn't been able to fix it yet. 2434 02:19:55,229 --> 02:19:58,019 Expect the next generation launch sometime Saturday 2435 02:19:58,019 --> 02:20:02,039 afternoon, December 9 2020. 83 And he says you will have to 2436 02:20:02,039 --> 02:20:06,179 reset passwords as I am using a more modern salt and hash for 2437 02:20:06,179 --> 02:20:10,589 them. Whoo. He's going to salt and hash. Salt 2438 02:20:10,590 --> 02:20:15,030 John C Dvorak: and hash. Yeah, this guy's going out there. 2439 02:20:15,030 --> 02:20:17,760 That's why it's taking so long to do using salt and hashes. 2440 02:20:17,790 --> 02:20:18,840 Complicated 2441 02:20:18,870 --> 02:20:21,870 Adam Curry: isn't really know, I never heard of it. The next 2442 02:20:21,870 --> 02:20:25,140 generation or generator will be up, though Sunday. 2443 02:20:25,170 --> 02:20:27,360 Unfortunately, I do not have much time during the week. Okay, 2444 02:20:27,480 --> 02:20:32,550 sorry. You know what? I love his job. He's got a job. If it's not 2445 02:20:32,550 --> 02:20:35,310 up Sunday, we can wait Brother, don't worry about it. But that's 2446 02:20:35,310 --> 02:20:38,880 an excellent example. Got no agenda meetups.com. We have Mark 2447 02:20:38,880 --> 02:20:41,940 and Maria, who organized the meetup. I mean, all of these are 2448 02:20:41,940 --> 02:20:44,760 ways that you feed back into the system boots on the ground like 2449 02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:48,420 Craig, this is what makes the no agenda show unique. It is a 2450 02:20:48,420 --> 02:20:53,310 postmodern media model that that I don't think anybody has been 2451 02:20:53,310 --> 02:20:57,690 able to rival it. I wish more people did it. Of course, we 2452 02:20:57,690 --> 02:21:01,170 have many people within the no agenda nation who do it, it is 2453 02:21:01,170 --> 02:21:07,500 the only way forward. The only way for everything. I just you 2454 02:21:07,500 --> 02:21:11,160 can't monetize once once the network was open, and anybody 2455 02:21:11,160 --> 02:21:16,410 can you know, you don't you can't create artificial scarcity 2456 02:21:16,440 --> 02:21:19,920 of airtime. How many? How many ads do you want to run, you can 2457 02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:24,390 run them indefinitely. CPMs are a race to the bottom. Take it 2458 02:21:24,390 --> 02:21:29,370 from John and you'd like that. That's a sub stack for you right 2459 02:21:29,370 --> 02:21:34,380 there. So we'd like to thank the artists who helped us out for 2460 02:21:34,380 --> 02:21:39,900 episode 1613. And we titled that one fossil fools I was informed. 2461 02:21:40,470 --> 02:21:44,340 We have used that title previously. Somewhere in the 2462 02:21:44,340 --> 02:21:47,820 1100s Oh, I know. I 2463 02:21:48,330 --> 02:21:51,510 John C Dvorak: remember it. That's always just not supposed 2464 02:21:51,510 --> 02:21:57,150 to remember you're the one who is assigned them. Forever 2465 02:21:57,150 --> 02:21:58,560 memory. Well, 2466 02:21:59,280 --> 02:22:01,170 Adam Curry: and typically my memory does, 2467 02:22:01,170 --> 02:22:04,290 John C Dvorak: yes. Okay, so why Yeah, well, I see it. 2468 02:22:06,750 --> 02:22:10,110 Adam Curry: It's just, I'm disappointed in my in my own 2469 02:22:11,400 --> 02:22:15,000 failure in my hand on my own and let me see what it was agenda. 2470 02:22:15,450 --> 02:22:22,110 Let me see which one it was which episode 16 Oh, 1197 1197 2471 02:22:22,140 --> 02:22:26,760 which was 29 year was 2019. Ah, 2472 02:22:27,540 --> 02:22:29,550 John C Dvorak: it was only four years ago. I should have 2473 02:22:29,550 --> 02:22:33,150 Adam Curry: known I should have known now. The art which was 2474 02:22:33,150 --> 02:22:37,920 done by a sir dirty Jersey whore. We both liked it. It 2475 02:22:37,920 --> 02:22:41,010 didn't take long to choose this. A lot of people commented that 2476 02:22:41,010 --> 02:22:49,110 it looked very much like a 1980s album art from Germany. And I 2477 02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:54,510 think there's something to that actually. Okay. And, and well, 2478 02:22:54,510 --> 02:22:54,630 the 2479 02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:56,880 John C Dvorak: piece I liked the best was the one he did 2480 02:22:59,100 --> 02:23:01,500 Adam Curry: do it was that also him? Yeah, he did those two 2481 02:23:01,500 --> 02:23:04,140 pieces. Yeah, but that was it was too much. And wait, 2482 02:23:04,140 --> 02:23:07,590 John C Dvorak: I used it on the newsletter because I just know 2483 02:23:07,860 --> 02:23:10,110 what actually is too small for them. 2484 02:23:10,260 --> 02:23:12,210 Adam Curry: But what I was like the game of life, was that what 2485 02:23:12,210 --> 02:23:17,100 that was or whatever it is. You just liked it. I just liked it. 2486 02:23:17,130 --> 02:23:19,260 You just liked it. But also we'd look at 2487 02:23:20,490 --> 02:23:23,190 John C Dvorak: you like the one with a cold but no, 2488 02:23:23,190 --> 02:23:25,080 Adam Curry: no, no. Oh, yeah. The Yes. The clown with the 2489 02:23:25,080 --> 02:23:28,890 cold. Yeah, kinda. Yeah. Networks. Yeah, that was fossil 2490 02:23:28,890 --> 02:23:31,950 fuels. But we both agreed that no one knows what coal looks 2491 02:23:31,950 --> 02:23:32,190 like 2492 02:23:32,190 --> 02:23:34,770 John C Dvorak: anymore. So Exactly. No, but he 2493 02:23:35,460 --> 02:23:40,410 Adam Curry: wouldn't fly at all. We did not understand methane, 2494 02:23:40,410 --> 02:23:43,590 you Jame from Francisco. Scaramanga? We didn't get that 2495 02:23:43,590 --> 02:23:44,010 one. 2496 02:23:44,190 --> 02:23:46,920 John C Dvorak: Yeah. What's Thane? I don't know. I don't 2497 02:23:46,920 --> 02:23:47,160 know. I 2498 02:23:47,160 --> 02:23:50,970 Adam Curry: didn't know either stain. The Yeah, no great 2499 02:23:50,970 --> 02:23:56,100 question. From networks, but it didn't say great questions, that 2500 02:23:56,100 --> 02:24:00,360 great question mark. So there was just problems. And it's 2501 02:24:00,360 --> 02:24:02,190 tough. It's tough. It's this 2502 02:24:02,190 --> 02:24:05,280 John C Dvorak: really is we have to pick from those system. 10 2503 02:24:05,550 --> 02:24:06,930 loan pieces that 2504 02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:12,660 Adam Curry: yeah, that are not our regular 30 debts pulled 2505 02:24:13,050 --> 02:24:17,040 John C Dvorak: from the social Nanogen the social media, so not 2506 02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:17,640 going to be? 2507 02:24:18,030 --> 02:24:20,670 Adam Curry: Well, we appreciate your work so dirty Jersey hora, 2508 02:24:20,670 --> 02:24:23,670 thank you for the thank you for the value that you create the 2509 02:24:23,670 --> 02:24:27,450 time and the talent was very much appreciated on that. Thank 2510 02:24:27,450 --> 02:24:30,810 you. Thank you. Thank you now to our executive and Associate 2511 02:24:30,810 --> 02:24:35,070 Executive producers for episode 1614. We kick it off with 2512 02:24:35,100 --> 02:24:39,690 Derrick Barone who comes in with a coveted show number donation 2513 02:24:39,690 --> 02:24:45,780 1614 from San Antonio, Texas. And he says show number 2514 02:24:46,890 --> 02:24:50,820 donation. I picked you guys up while searching the truth after 2515 02:24:50,820 --> 02:24:57,660 Limbaugh died. Wow. I wonder did he did you search on Google? I'm 2516 02:24:57,660 --> 02:24:58,680 curious about that. 2517 02:24:59,190 --> 02:25:01,140 John C Dvorak: Where are you at? I have no idea. 2518 02:25:01,560 --> 02:25:04,650 Adam Curry: You knuckleheads are now my only source de douche me 2519 02:25:04,650 --> 02:25:12,030 please. You've been de deuced please Knight me sir de bon 2520 02:25:12,060 --> 02:25:15,840 stealth conductor of truth and lover of boobs Keep up the great 2521 02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:18,300 work. You too Derek. Thank you very much we 2522 02:25:18,300 --> 02:25:20,820 John C Dvorak: appreciate that everything is moving around. Sir 2523 02:25:20,820 --> 02:25:27,210 Baron not sure keeper. Tricky. Oh, not your keeper. Okay, so 2524 02:25:27,210 --> 02:25:34,620 bear and natural keeper. Oh monument Colorado 111 1.11 Sir 2525 02:25:34,620 --> 02:25:38,670 Baron natural keeper of the trice lakes after calling out my 2526 02:25:38,670 --> 02:25:42,030 brother as a douchebag the guilt has weighed on me since he was 2527 02:25:42,030 --> 02:25:44,580 the one that brought me to your show and I wouldn't have found 2528 02:25:44,580 --> 02:25:47,700 you guys without him. Oh, no, please credit this donation to 2529 02:25:47,700 --> 02:25:50,370 him and give him the D douchey. Greatly needs for now please 2530 02:25:50,370 --> 02:25:54,180 Knight him sir owl. Live available all the servers can be 2531 02:25:54,180 --> 02:25:56,610 duplicated by the Wishing you don't have to ask about that. 2532 02:25:57,060 --> 02:26:00,750 And give him a helping of mutton hookers. And blow it you get 2533 02:26:00,750 --> 02:26:03,420 that anyway. So that's to get us to fall back. 2534 02:26:03,450 --> 02:26:04,410 Adam Curry: Oh, give us a given. 2535 02:26:04,710 --> 02:26:08,220 John C Dvorak: Please add him to the birthday list. 1211 and give 2536 02:26:08,220 --> 02:26:11,760 him a biscuit for his birthday. They always give me a biscuit on 2537 02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:12,270 my birthday. 2538 02:26:14,310 --> 02:26:16,110 Unknown: You fan de Deus. 2539 02:26:18,480 --> 02:26:20,220 John C Dvorak: And a dose of karma as always, thank you for 2540 02:26:20,220 --> 02:26:23,160 everything you guys do. Mark Rushall 2541 02:26:25,410 --> 02:26:27,090 Unknown: you've got karma. 2542 02:26:29,640 --> 02:26:33,510 Adam Curry: Okay, I gotta expand my myself formatting here. 2543 02:26:34,800 --> 02:26:41,250 Moments. People right outside the box. Okay, so that's a but 2544 02:26:41,250 --> 02:26:47,460 that is a switcheroo for Sir owl, right? Yeah, yeah, I 2545 02:26:47,490 --> 02:26:54,180 presume that went wrong, sir. Get that right, sir. Okay, boom, 2546 02:26:54,330 --> 02:26:59,370 boom. Next up, sir. stacker. Menomonee. Falls, Wisconsin. 2547 02:26:59,400 --> 02:27:02,610 1000. Thank you for accepting my treasure and for your service. 2548 02:27:02,970 --> 02:27:06,690 All my best to you, Adam. Neil Smith, sir. stacker. Baron, bird 2549 02:27:06,690 --> 02:27:12,750 seed. PhD graduate. Did this come in? Must have come in with 2550 02:27:12,750 --> 02:27:14,700 a check. I guess that is a PhD graduate. 2551 02:27:15,780 --> 02:27:17,340 John C Dvorak: Is this a check? Noted? 2552 02:27:20,700 --> 02:27:23,700 Adam Curry: Yeah, I think so. Okay. Daniel Smith. Yep. He's on 2553 02:27:23,700 --> 02:27:25,680 the list as a graduate Yes. Correct. 2554 02:27:27,150 --> 02:27:31,170 John C Dvorak: He, yeah. Wait, now we have Kyle who came in 2555 02:27:31,170 --> 02:27:34,650 with another $1,000. And it was sent as a tribute to Michael 2556 02:27:35,400 --> 02:27:43,170 Daigle in a senti. A he had it was a very cryptic series of 2557 02:27:43,170 --> 02:27:47,790 notes that Kyle sent in. And he's without contributions. And 2558 02:27:47,790 --> 02:27:52,140 then he sent this thing in as a tribute to this guy with a photo 2559 02:27:52,170 --> 02:27:55,740 on his note and the whole thing and we're just, there was no 2560 02:27:55,770 --> 02:27:58,080 evidence that he wanted us to say anything more than that. 2561 02:27:58,110 --> 02:28:01,380 Adam Curry: Okay. Well, it's a tribute to Michael Degli 2562 02:28:01,380 --> 02:28:04,680 Innocenti. Do we want to put his name as the as the producer in 2563 02:28:04,680 --> 02:28:05,250 that case? 2564 02:28:05,550 --> 02:28:06,600 John C Dvorak: No, Kyle gets it. 2565 02:28:07,170 --> 02:28:12,240 Adam Curry: Okay. Excuse me. Anonymous controller. Franklin, 2566 02:28:12,240 --> 02:28:17,640 Indiana. I think I met him 34567. That's 34567 sends us 2567 02:28:17,640 --> 02:28:19,980 into knighthood. And we'd like to do a switcheroo and give it 2568 02:28:19,980 --> 02:28:24,060 to Dave The broke controller. I think this is this is from the 2569 02:28:24,090 --> 02:28:29,760 meetup. While Dave is tiny and broke. He hit us in the mouth 2570 02:28:29,760 --> 02:28:32,010 and it's always attempting to hit others in the mouth. Without 2571 02:28:32,010 --> 02:28:34,590 him. We'd never know this show existed yesterday. This is from 2572 02:28:34,590 --> 02:28:38,130 the controllers. He will be known as the unknown Knight 2573 02:28:38,130 --> 02:28:41,700 until he writes in and chooses a name JCD. You are the father 2574 02:28:41,700 --> 02:28:44,610 Dave never had. So can you please in your most fatherly 2575 02:28:44,610 --> 02:28:47,010 tone say I'm proud of you, kid. 2576 02:28:47,400 --> 02:28:49,170 John C Dvorak: I'm proud of you kid. 2577 02:28:49,380 --> 02:28:53,790 Adam Curry: It will give it will give it if I felt that even. 2578 02:28:54,000 --> 02:28:56,760 It'll give him the motivation. He needs to keep evangelizing 2579 02:28:56,760 --> 02:29:00,570 for the no agenda show and make disciples who he become who 2580 02:29:00,570 --> 02:29:03,450 become donors. Adam, pleasure meeting you and the keeper. 2581 02:29:03,450 --> 02:29:06,720 She's lovely. By the way. It was one of our human resources who 2582 02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:09,420 vomited all over the floor at the meetup. Oh, I didn't see 2583 02:29:09,420 --> 02:29:13,860 that. I missed it. I missed it good vomit. Bringing kids into a 2584 02:29:13,860 --> 02:29:16,590 bar wasn't already a questionable parenting decision. 2585 02:29:16,770 --> 02:29:19,260 One of them had to go puke and ruin it for everybody else. 2586 02:29:19,260 --> 02:29:22,260 Luckily, the no agenda unit was full of loving and kind people 2587 02:29:22,410 --> 02:29:24,810 who were understanding and sympathetic. The only jingle 2588 02:29:24,810 --> 02:29:29,130 we'd like to hear is JC DS Hot Pocket love from anonymous 2589 02:29:29,130 --> 02:29:30,420 controller and his wife 2590 02:29:30,660 --> 02:29:31,950 Unknown: had pockets. 2591 02:29:33,510 --> 02:29:36,930 Adam Curry: Okay, so this is for Dave The broke controller Dave, 2592 02:29:37,230 --> 02:29:41,160 the broke. I didn't hear about that at all. That's fine. 2593 02:29:42,330 --> 02:29:44,190 John C Dvorak: I didn't hear about it. Well, next on the list 2594 02:29:44,190 --> 02:29:48,720 is coincidently Linda Lubetkin in Lakewood, Colorado, jobs calm 2595 02:29:48,720 --> 02:29:52,260 offer remarkable, remarkable resume that gets results go to 2596 02:29:52,260 --> 02:29:56,550 Image makers inc.com For all your executive resume and job 2597 02:29:56,550 --> 02:30:02,130 search needs. Yeah, that's image makers. equals k.com or just 2598 02:30:02,130 --> 02:30:06,360 find Linda Lu patcon under the show's producer list with love 2599 02:30:06,360 --> 02:30:09,930 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs, 2600 02:30:09,960 --> 02:30:14,430 John C Dvorak: let's vote for job. Karma. 2601 02:30:16,109 --> 02:30:20,339 Adam Curry: And finally, Yes, last one, sir Jeff from Mount 2602 02:30:20,339 --> 02:30:25,259 Shasta, California. 200 Switcheroo for Dame Danny from 2603 02:30:25,259 --> 02:30:30,209 Sir Jeff. Okay, so please also add Dame Danny to the birthday 2604 02:30:30,209 --> 02:30:32,639 list her birthday December 7. That's the show today. Thank you 2605 02:30:32,639 --> 02:30:35,489 for all you do. Here's the final donation amount for my smokin 2606 02:30:35,489 --> 02:30:38,249 hot wife to officially become the dame that she's always been. 2607 02:30:38,549 --> 02:30:41,879 Let us bestow the title of Dame Danny of the screaming goat 2608 02:30:41,879 --> 02:30:46,739 society, love and light, sir Jeff Knight of the five seasons. 2609 02:30:47,159 --> 02:30:52,199 So I will put Dame Danny of the screaming goat society in the 2610 02:30:52,199 --> 02:30:56,249 switcheroo note beautiful. And I think that does it right. 2611 02:30:57,270 --> 02:30:59,430 John C Dvorak: Yeah, so they'll read the rest of these. There's 2612 02:30:59,430 --> 02:31:01,110 only a few. Just 2613 02:31:01,110 --> 02:31:03,360 Adam Curry: let me thank everybody who of course is an 2614 02:31:03,360 --> 02:31:06,720 executive or Associate Executive Producer. These are credits that 2615 02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:10,830 are completely valid. They're real. You can use them anywhere 2616 02:31:10,830 --> 02:31:13,800 that credits are recognized. That's Hollywood, by the way 2617 02:31:13,980 --> 02:31:17,880 that sag AFTRA you can use that it's it's the real deal. You can 2618 02:31:17,880 --> 02:31:21,300 put it on your LinkedIn on your resume in your bio if you have 2619 02:31:21,300 --> 02:31:25,050 one, or go to imdb.com If you don't have an IMDB you can open 2620 02:31:25,050 --> 02:31:28,500 one up. It's all legit. And thank you for supporting the no 2621 02:31:28,500 --> 02:31:29,160 agenda show. 2622 02:31:30,330 --> 02:31:34,590 John C Dvorak: Jeffrey Benson is up with $123.21 and he's from 2623 02:31:34,590 --> 02:31:43,050 Denver, Pennsylvania. I think he needs a D douching. You've been 2624 02:31:43,050 --> 02:31:48,330 D deuced. Harrington sparks Nevada $100 Anonymous from a 2625 02:31:48,330 --> 02:31:53,040 post office in California. $100. You know who you are. Baroness 2626 02:31:53,040 --> 02:32:00,330 night in Edmonds, Washington 90. Daniel Mudge in Fairborn. Ohio. 2627 02:32:01,530 --> 02:32:07,740 808. He wanted to be at the meet up meet you. Kevin McLaughlin 2628 02:32:07,740 --> 02:32:10,470 from Concord, North Carolina who wanted to be at the meet up for 2629 02:32:10,470 --> 02:32:14,340 sure. Because he says give those boobs the respect they deserve. 2630 02:32:14,370 --> 02:32:24,930 808 Alex Reichman in Peck Michigan 808 the Ryan White n y 2631 02:32:24,930 --> 02:32:30,750 n Kartini in Torrington, Connecticut 7421 Jose Prius 2632 02:32:30,750 --> 02:32:36,690 Prius paratus in Wichita, Kansas 6933, Sir becoming heroic in 2633 02:32:36,690 --> 02:32:44,940 shear Ville, Indiana 6886 which he claims as jiggly boobs, I'm 2634 02:32:45,210 --> 02:32:53,520 sure Andrew Pana Bianco in Peoria, Arizona. 6154. Kevin 2635 02:32:53,520 --> 02:32:57,930 McLaughlin is back at 606. Don't be shy. Just give those boobs a 2636 02:32:57,930 --> 02:33:04,500 try. He says Grayson insurance in Aurora, Colorado 606. Also 2637 02:33:04,500 --> 02:33:13,560 small boobs, tre cougars and Amelia, Ohio 5555. It's quite 2638 02:33:13,560 --> 02:33:17,670 sure what the note says David Weicker in Jacksonville, Florida 2639 02:33:18,510 --> 02:33:23,100 5510 And he wants a promotion for southeastern turfgrass 2640 02:33:23,100 --> 02:33:27,990 supply. Miko should be the in the name of his name instead of 2641 02:33:27,990 --> 02:33:33,030 the Dave. David Weikert. Okay, did 510 Michael gates 50 to 80 2642 02:33:33,330 --> 02:33:42,120 Heather Goodwin in kowhai e. Y E. Five Do you want 11 Josiah 2643 02:33:42,150 --> 02:33:50,940 Thomas and N Kenny, Iowa 51 jacquelene Keeley in Downers 2644 02:33:50,940 --> 02:33:55,290 Grove, Illinois with a birthday actually it's a birthday to his 2645 02:33:55,320 --> 02:34:00,960 her douchebag husband $51 can be is on the list. Miles 2646 02:34:01,200 --> 02:34:08,100 Charlotte's we'll give him a douching then miles in 2647 02:34:08,100 --> 02:34:14,370 Charlottesville, Virginia 5033 Lynn Melanau ski in Stafford, 2648 02:34:14,370 --> 02:34:17,580 Virginia 50 and these are all 50s. From now on, I will finish 2649 02:34:17,580 --> 02:34:24,960 with this name location Douglas Moog and Cochran cochranton. 2650 02:34:25,440 --> 02:34:29,250 Pennsylvania. Alex Zavala in Kyle Texas or Kylie 2651 02:34:29,310 --> 02:34:30,960 Adam Curry: Oh surroundings, Sir Alex, 2652 02:34:31,230 --> 02:34:36,180 John C Dvorak: Sir Alex, Miko Lebar are lead bar A in 2653 02:34:36,360 --> 02:34:42,720 Williamston, Michigan Pay Pal, Inc. 50 $50. Thanks, PayPal. 2654 02:34:44,160 --> 02:34:48,960 When he came his PayPal, a Ryan tear maybe it's just a refund. 2655 02:34:49,650 --> 02:34:52,530 Brian Tiernan in North Providence, Rhode Island. 2656 02:34:53,280 --> 02:34:57,540 Matthew Smith in Colchester, Suffolk, UK, Jonathan Faris in 2657 02:34:57,540 --> 02:35:02,760 Liberal Kansas, Philip Those Makowski in Austin, Texas, 2658 02:35:03,210 --> 02:35:06,870 Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee Steven ray in Spokane, 2659 02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:11,400 Washington, Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio. Justin Cruz attach 2660 02:35:11,400 --> 02:35:16,200 up California. Robertson home in Flint, Michigan and last on our 2661 02:35:16,200 --> 02:35:20,520 list is Carrie Jackson in Watertown tend to tend tend to 2662 02:35:20,520 --> 02:35:24,300 see tend to thank us people for helping us out here on this show 2663 02:35:24,300 --> 02:35:26,730 of 1614. And 2664 02:35:26,730 --> 02:35:28,800 Adam Curry: thank you to everyone who came in under 50 We 2665 02:35:28,800 --> 02:35:31,350 don't mention anything under 50 A lot of people like that for 2666 02:35:31,350 --> 02:35:35,610 complete anonymity. I see you 4999 But also, if everybody 2667 02:35:35,610 --> 02:35:38,460 would consider going on one of the sustaining donations which 2668 02:35:38,460 --> 02:35:41,070 you can make up yourself, you can make up the frequency you 2669 02:35:41,070 --> 02:35:44,580 can make up the amount you know how much just something that is 2670 02:35:44,580 --> 02:35:47,250 recurring, that really does help when things get slow. You can 2671 02:35:47,250 --> 02:35:53,130 learn more about it here. for.org/and no agenda show 2672 02:35:53,130 --> 02:35:57,060 donations.com And thank you for supporting us here. Our formula 2673 02:35:57,060 --> 02:36:01,020 is this. We go out we hit people in the mouth 2674 02:36:12,690 --> 02:36:16,050 it's actually no agenda donations.com That's what it is. 2675 02:36:22,830 --> 02:36:26,250 Here are your birthday Shawn wishes wife Miranda Happy 2676 02:36:26,250 --> 02:36:31,620 birthday is today. And Sir Jeff wishes a smokin hot wife Danny 2677 02:36:31,620 --> 02:36:35,820 also Happy Birthday also today. Then we have David winker, 2678 02:36:35,820 --> 02:36:38,790 wishing his amazing daughter Aspen joy, wicker a happy 2679 02:36:38,790 --> 02:36:42,540 birthday she turns 11 tomorrow on the eighth Did you enjoy the 2680 02:36:42,540 --> 02:36:46,800 limo ride he wants to know sir Baron nuts your keeper wishes 2681 02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:49,500 his brother owl happy birthday for the elevens Jacqueline 2682 02:36:49,500 --> 02:36:52,860 Keeley Happy birthday to you are lovable husband Mike Healy. And 2683 02:36:52,860 --> 02:36:57,570 Derek by the way as a brand new human resource she was born 2684 02:36:57,570 --> 02:37:01,560 yesterday on December 6, her name is Ellie, we say welcome to 2685 02:37:01,560 --> 02:37:04,500 no agenda nation and give our nation Ellie happy birthday from 2686 02:37:04,500 --> 02:37:08,610 everybody he had the best podcast in the universe. Then we 2687 02:37:08,610 --> 02:37:12,240 congratulate Neil Smith with his PhD of course say he will be 2688 02:37:12,240 --> 02:37:15,150 able to he's so eligible for that so we'll get that in the 2689 02:37:15,150 --> 02:37:18,480 mail and we have a day when a couple of nights if you've if 2690 02:37:18,480 --> 02:37:19,890 you've got to go gotta 2691 02:37:19,890 --> 02:37:21,090 John C Dvorak: read here beautiful. 2692 02:37:23,490 --> 02:37:27,510 Adam Curry: Derek Marone out and gave the broke controller come 2693 02:37:27,510 --> 02:37:30,090 on over here step on up on the podium all of you have support 2694 02:37:30,090 --> 02:37:33,330 the no agenda show or have been supported to the no agenda show 2695 02:37:33,330 --> 02:37:37,410 in the amount of $1,000 or more and I am therefore very very 2696 02:37:37,410 --> 02:37:40,230 happy to pronounce Kate these named Danny of the screaming 2697 02:37:40,230 --> 02:37:44,310 goat society. Sir deep bone stealth conductor of truth and 2698 02:37:44,310 --> 02:37:48,150 lover of boobs are out and the unknown night for you. We've got 2699 02:37:48,150 --> 02:37:51,300 hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay extra helping of that 2700 02:37:51,540 --> 02:37:54,960 we've got Polish potato vodka harlots and howl doll beer and 2701 02:37:54,960 --> 02:37:58,350 blondes Brazilian hotties and Kashia. We got back in vanilla 2702 02:37:58,350 --> 02:38:00,960 bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider escorts, ginger ale and 2703 02:38:00,960 --> 02:38:04,170 dribbles, breast milk and pablum. And, of course, Madani 2704 02:38:04,170 --> 02:38:06,990 Mead extras for those who need it, go to no agenda 2705 02:38:07,170 --> 02:38:13,530 nation.com/rings or nogen rings.com Sorry. And take a look 2706 02:38:13,530 --> 02:38:16,920 at the handsome night and Dame rings we have there. That's also 2707 02:38:16,950 --> 02:38:22,800 where new Neil Smith can still get his PhD. Now that means 2708 02:38:22,800 --> 02:38:24,600 you'd love to give us your address and the exact name you 2709 02:38:24,600 --> 02:38:28,620 want it for the night rings. We need your ring size, there's a 2710 02:38:28,620 --> 02:38:31,770 handy sizing guide there. And please also tell us where to 2711 02:38:31,770 --> 02:38:34,620 send it because with that not it's a signet ring. So you get 2712 02:38:34,620 --> 02:38:37,410 your beautiful Notre Dame ring along with wax to seal your 2713 02:38:37,410 --> 02:38:40,440 important correspondence and a certificate of authenticity. 2714 02:38:40,440 --> 02:38:43,650 Thank you so much for joining that exclusive club but the no 2715 02:38:43,650 --> 02:38:44,820 agenda Knights and Dames. 2716 02:38:54,600 --> 02:38:56,610 Well, you heard my meet up report at the top. It was a 2717 02:38:56,610 --> 02:38:59,160 great time. We really appreciate once again, Mark and Maria, 2718 02:38:59,160 --> 02:39:01,440 thank you so much. I'm sure we'll have the full meetup 2719 02:39:01,440 --> 02:39:04,500 report for Sunday's report. Takes a little bit to get all of 2720 02:39:04,500 --> 02:39:07,770 those edited together. In the meantime, we do have the Webster 2721 02:39:07,980 --> 02:39:10,620 County whet your whistle meetup report. Well, 2722 02:39:10,650 --> 02:39:14,100 Unknown: in the morning this is Charles Shelton from the Webster 2723 02:39:14,100 --> 02:39:20,670 County whet your whistle monthly Wednesday meet up. It was a real 2724 02:39:20,670 --> 02:39:25,560 turnout tonight. It was a party of one me and that's okay. But 2725 02:39:25,560 --> 02:39:28,230 connection is protection for everybody who showed up last 2726 02:39:28,230 --> 02:39:31,860 week and for the weeks before and the weeks into the future. 2727 02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:36,270 May y'all have a good time and I will be here next month first 2728 02:39:36,270 --> 02:39:41,730 Wednesday of January respect we make much we mix we much and 2729 02:39:41,730 --> 02:39:43,260 that which means be committed. 2730 02:39:43,290 --> 02:39:47,790 Adam Curry: Alright close. could try. There is a meetup taking 2731 02:39:47,790 --> 02:39:50,430 place today. The five forks is the first Thursday at six 2732 02:39:50,430 --> 02:39:53,670 o'clock at Bullwinkle tavern that's in Simpsonville, South 2733 02:39:53,670 --> 02:39:57,390 Carolina, the northern wake of Thanksgiving recovery circle of 2734 02:39:57,390 --> 02:40:01,500 trust six o'clock at Compass Rose brewing in Raleigh, North 2735 02:40:01,500 --> 02:40:04,440 Carolina, there's the Carolinas for y'all taken care of. On 2736 02:40:04,440 --> 02:40:07,560 Friday the Deep State University alumni meeting from Munich and 2737 02:40:07,560 --> 02:40:12,930 upper Bavaria this it is it's your site Taylor Brauhaus. In 2738 02:40:12,930 --> 02:40:17,190 our set is our tall Bavaria, Germany. I'm expecting a meet up 2739 02:40:17,190 --> 02:40:22,950 report from that. Also the brow house right yes. brow and Bright 2740 02:40:22,950 --> 02:40:27,300 House. The Brandon's in Florida to meet up two o'clock at Big 2741 02:40:27,300 --> 02:40:29,760 Top brewing Lakewood Ranch, Florida. That's on Saturday. 2742 02:40:29,760 --> 02:40:33,780 Also on Saturday, the local 406 Yuletide. This is the Montana 2743 02:40:33,930 --> 02:40:38,730 standard state standard time 333 At Bridger Brewer brewing Three 2744 02:40:38,730 --> 02:40:42,780 Forks, Three Forks, Montana. The New York City no agenda drinking 2745 02:40:42,780 --> 02:40:46,050 club meets at 333 in Wing bar and Brooklyn New York's are 2746 02:40:46,050 --> 02:40:49,530 spoon makers there. I would like a meet up report from Brooklyn 2747 02:40:49,530 --> 02:40:52,470 as well. I can't believe the no agenda listeners in Brooklyn yet 2748 02:40:52,470 --> 02:40:57,330 run out of town. The northeastern Houston meetup five 2749 02:40:57,330 --> 02:41:01,410 o'clock in Houston on Saturday at 3040 Farm to Market The 2750 02:41:01,410 --> 02:41:04,620 Northeast Ohio holiday winter fest. Not totally not a 2751 02:41:04,620 --> 02:41:09,090 Christmas get together at six o'clock. That's 56 kitchen in 2752 02:41:09,090 --> 02:41:12,780 Mayfield Heights, Ohio. And finally before our next show day 2753 02:41:12,780 --> 02:41:16,770 on Saturday, the second annual cheesy spot see holiday meet up 2754 02:41:16,770 --> 02:41:20,910 630 And Gore melts. That's in Fredericksburg, Virginia. I did 2755 02:41:20,910 --> 02:41:23,670 want to make one mitten mentioned because I saw popping 2756 02:41:23,670 --> 02:41:27,120 up on the schedule April 8 a meet up in Fredericksburg, 2757 02:41:27,120 --> 02:41:32,070 Texas. I recommend you not do this meetup. I recommend you do 2758 02:41:32,070 --> 02:41:37,500 not come this unless you have already unless you have lodging 2759 02:41:37,500 --> 02:41:39,780 and know where you're going to stay. It is going to be a 2760 02:41:39,780 --> 02:41:43,290 nightmare. I will not even be able to get to this location. 2761 02:41:43,980 --> 02:41:48,030 There's going to be over 100,000 people in Fredericksburg. It's a 2762 02:41:48,030 --> 02:41:50,190 bad idea is that there is 2763 02:41:50,880 --> 02:41:52,830 John C Dvorak: some background here. This is just condemned 2764 02:41:52,860 --> 02:41:53,880 condemnation. 2765 02:41:53,910 --> 02:42:01,380 Adam Curry: This is the big solar eclipse. Well, yes. Now 2766 02:42:01,410 --> 02:42:02,580 Ana, Texas, you 2767 02:42:02,580 --> 02:42:05,010 John C Dvorak: might want to go the solar eclipse last year. But 2768 02:42:05,010 --> 02:42:05,220 this 2769 02:42:05,220 --> 02:42:07,050 Adam Curry: is this is going to be the big one. This 2770 02:42:07,080 --> 02:42:09,360 Fredericksburg is right in the middle of the path. This is 2771 02:42:09,360 --> 02:42:14,280 where it's going to go dark. Dark for a total of 15 minutes, 2772 02:42:14,550 --> 02:42:18,960 who and the whole the world is coming to Fredericksburg. It's 2773 02:42:18,960 --> 02:42:23,310 going to be a horrible nightmare. So I'm not going to 2774 02:42:23,310 --> 02:42:27,510 be at this meetup. I won't even be able to get there from where 2775 02:42:27,510 --> 02:42:32,250 I live. So stop doing these smart ass things. People it's 2776 02:42:32,250 --> 02:42:35,910 not good for you. Do not do this. You know how many people's 2777 02:42:36,180 --> 02:42:38,670 Hey, man, what are you doing for the clips? I want to come stay 2778 02:42:38,670 --> 02:42:42,750 with you? No, no, I'm gonna have to stand outside with my with my 2779 02:42:42,750 --> 02:42:47,310 rifle. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because we know there's an empty plot 2780 02:42:47,310 --> 02:42:49,920 next to us. Do you get people camping on their lightened 2781 02:42:49,920 --> 02:42:50,790 fires? 2782 02:42:50,880 --> 02:42:52,920 John C Dvorak: I just have your duck the dog loose? Yeah. 2783 02:42:55,050 --> 02:42:57,390 Adam Curry: That could turn out perfectly. You know the trolls 2784 02:42:57,390 --> 02:42:59,790 like you just take your electric bike Nope. You have no idea that 2785 02:42:59,790 --> 02:43:04,590 will be the street will be one year electric bikes will be one 2786 02:43:04,620 --> 02:43:05,310 just may 2787 02:43:05,310 --> 02:43:08,880 John C Dvorak: Whatever happened to that that one wheeled piece 2788 02:43:08,880 --> 02:43:11,730 of crap that little scooter thing used to drive up and down 2789 02:43:11,730 --> 02:43:14,190 and in the apartment building and whatever happened to that? 2790 02:43:14,220 --> 02:43:17,370 Adam Curry: Oh, or the hoverboard? Yeah, I got rid of 2791 02:43:17,370 --> 02:43:19,920 it before it blew up. I thought it would be smarter. Those 2792 02:43:19,920 --> 02:43:24,450 things blow up. Now the batteries ignite in your house. 2793 02:43:24,450 --> 02:43:27,930 I guess you don't see those much anymore. It was two wheels by 2794 02:43:27,930 --> 02:43:31,260 the ways two wheels hoverboard wasn't one wheel. That's our no 2795 02:43:31,260 --> 02:43:34,620 agenda meetups go to no agenda meetups.com And just like Mark 2796 02:43:34,620 --> 02:43:37,800 and Maria who were very smart they never want to go through 2797 02:43:37,800 --> 02:43:41,310 the lockdown without a community ever again. That's why they 2798 02:43:41,310 --> 02:43:43,890 started it because they know connection is protection no 2799 02:43:43,890 --> 02:43:49,320 agenda meetup.com start when yourself go hang out with 2800 02:43:55,110 --> 02:44:04,500 Unknown: me triggered you will be buddy feels the same. It's 2801 02:44:04,500 --> 02:44:04,830 like 2802 02:44:07,140 --> 02:44:13,230 Adam Curry: just like a party. I I have two ISOs I wouldn't mind 2803 02:44:13,560 --> 02:44:19,260 trying to I suppose when I go my first you've been more winning 2804 02:44:19,260 --> 02:44:22,710 lately than I have so I feel like I should be subjugated here 2805 02:44:22,710 --> 02:44:23,010 we go 2806 02:44:23,040 --> 02:44:25,530 Unknown: trash takes itself out every single time. 2807 02:44:27,150 --> 02:44:29,640 Adam Curry: A little too long. I think a little too long. How 2808 02:44:29,640 --> 02:44:36,120 about this one? Democracy forever Dude, we get it kinda 2809 02:44:36,120 --> 02:44:40,680 like that one. I don't know what he said but democracy forever 2810 02:44:40,680 --> 02:44:43,440 Dude, we get it. He couldn't hear that really couldn't hear 2811 02:44:43,440 --> 02:44:43,680 okay, 2812 02:44:43,680 --> 02:44:46,620 Unknown: here we go. Democracy forever, dude. We did it. 2813 02:44:46,920 --> 02:44:48,120 Adam Curry: I could hear pretty well. 2814 02:44:49,140 --> 02:44:52,650 John C Dvorak: Okay, got two short ones. All right. One so 2815 02:44:52,650 --> 02:44:55,740 short has got a zero seconds maybe not even be on here. 2816 02:44:56,190 --> 02:44:57,930 Anyway, is easy. 2817 02:44:58,260 --> 02:45:02,250 Adam Curry: It's just that easy. That's just unintelligible was 2818 02:45:02,250 --> 02:45:02,790 mine. 2819 02:45:03,990 --> 02:45:05,970 John C Dvorak: There you go. There you go. 2820 02:45:08,160 --> 02:45:10,260 Adam Curry: I think there you go is probably the best of all of 2821 02:45:10,260 --> 02:45:13,830 them was the clearest. Yeah, that's, that usually is what 2822 02:45:13,830 --> 02:45:14,370 wins? 2823 02:45:15,750 --> 02:45:17,910 John C Dvorak: Yes. I love how people always able to send us 2824 02:45:17,910 --> 02:45:19,140 these things should note that 2825 02:45:19,170 --> 02:45:21,810 Adam Curry: if you can't hear it or it can't be more than two 2826 02:45:21,810 --> 02:45:23,790 seconds for two seconds is 2827 02:45:23,790 --> 02:45:27,420 John C Dvorak: the max to you? And also if it's just got music 2828 02:45:27,420 --> 02:45:31,020 behind it or it's muddy or it hasn't funny, and we're not 2829 02:45:31,050 --> 02:45:33,000 Adam Curry: we're not looking. We're not looking for people 2830 02:45:33,000 --> 02:45:37,740 saying in the morning. No. Hey, this guy said in the morning. 2831 02:45:37,860 --> 02:45:42,000 No, no, no, no, that's sad enough on that's not it. That's 2832 02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:42,420 not it. 2833 02:45:43,560 --> 02:45:45,450 John C Dvorak: I have a couple of clips that I've been sitting 2834 02:45:45,450 --> 02:45:50,700 on I want to play. Okay. Because nobody knows about this is not 2835 02:45:50,700 --> 02:45:54,450 being played by the mainstream media. No. Somehow I think this 2836 02:45:54,450 --> 02:45:58,080 is an OP. Ed, I think and I say one of our intelligence agencies 2837 02:45:58,080 --> 02:46:03,090 is doing it. It's called the White Paper movement in China. 2838 02:46:03,420 --> 02:46:03,960 Oh, what is 2839 02:46:03,960 --> 02:46:06,540 Unknown: this in an event right outside of the US Capitol this 2840 02:46:06,540 --> 02:46:09,570 evening, a group of Chinese dissidents and human rights 2841 02:46:09,570 --> 02:46:12,360 activists are trying to remind the world that the Chinese 2842 02:46:12,360 --> 02:46:16,560 Communist Party's grip on its people may not be as strong as 2843 02:46:16,560 --> 02:46:19,620 it seems. And that's clear not only from the people who are 2844 02:46:19,620 --> 02:46:22,290 commemorating the white paper movement today, but also with 2845 02:46:22,290 --> 02:46:25,380 the white paper movement itself. So just to take you back to 2846 02:46:25,380 --> 02:46:28,380 exactly how this all started. While around this time last 2847 02:46:28,380 --> 02:46:31,710 year, there were 10s of 1000s of Chinese people who took to the 2848 02:46:31,710 --> 02:46:35,430 streets holding up pieces of blank white paper in protest of 2849 02:46:35,430 --> 02:46:38,970 China's zero COVID policy, but not only in protest of that 2850 02:46:38,970 --> 02:46:42,810 policy, also calling for an end to the Chinese Communist Party 2851 02:46:42,930 --> 02:46:44,340 in the dictatorship, 2852 02:46:44,640 --> 02:46:47,760 what that would take to rest your life, in a regime like 2853 02:46:47,760 --> 02:46:51,510 that, to speak on behalf of truth and protest tyranny. I 2854 02:46:51,510 --> 02:46:53,760 think that should give us all who are lucky enough to live in 2855 02:46:53,760 --> 02:46:57,540 the free world, some courage to do whatever we can to protect 2856 02:46:57,540 --> 02:46:58,350 the freedoms we have. 2857 02:46:58,470 --> 02:47:01,860 Year after year, more and more Chinese people are standing up 2858 02:47:01,860 --> 02:47:05,640 to demand their basic human rights. Year after year, the 2859 02:47:05,640 --> 02:47:06,990 change is happening, 2860 02:47:07,080 --> 02:47:10,710 took it upon himself to read off a list of names of people who 2861 02:47:10,710 --> 02:47:14,100 were actually involved in the white paper protest movement who 2862 02:47:14,100 --> 02:47:18,540 are still being detained in China today, I also got a chance 2863 02:47:18,540 --> 02:47:21,510 to catch up with lawmakers about the commemoration of this white 2864 02:47:21,510 --> 02:47:24,360 paper Freedom Movement. And they said this is something that 2865 02:47:24,360 --> 02:47:28,140 should be encouraged because it is a beacon of hope. So 2866 02:47:28,140 --> 02:47:31,470 it's actually a little glimmer of hope that that's still the 2867 02:47:31,470 --> 02:47:34,380 China's stronghold on his people is not as strong as they think 2868 02:47:34,380 --> 02:47:35,070 it is. And 2869 02:47:35,070 --> 02:47:37,680 Adam Curry: encourage them to continue with that for the cause 2870 02:47:37,680 --> 02:47:42,180 of freedom around the world is to acknowledge their sacrifice, 2871 02:47:42,210 --> 02:47:46,320 and and applaud their sacrifice. And think it's important to 2872 02:47:46,320 --> 02:47:50,040 continue to do that. And this has to happen organically within 2873 02:47:50,040 --> 02:47:55,440 the country. Where I'm at so the Charlie's only vaguely my ass so 2874 02:47:55,440 --> 02:47:59,370 they're holding up white pieces of paper. Yeah. Isn't that just 2875 02:47:59,670 --> 02:48:03,480 shouldn't people be making memes out of that? Writing? 2876 02:48:03,630 --> 02:48:05,970 John C Dvorak: This whole thing has been repressed in terms of 2877 02:48:05,970 --> 02:48:09,990 our mainstream coverage. Interesting. So but I mean, I 2878 02:48:10,020 --> 02:48:13,890 wish I think it makes it not work. Or somebody told I don't 2879 02:48:13,890 --> 02:48:16,890 know I have. I think there's an OP involved here. But I don't 2880 02:48:16,890 --> 02:48:19,800 understand why this hasn't been picked up is already a year old 2881 02:48:19,800 --> 02:48:24,330 is movement. And it's discussed as such the white paper 2882 02:48:24,330 --> 02:48:26,970 movement. You never heard of it. I never heard of it. No, I 2883 02:48:26,970 --> 02:48:30,120 haven't. I think this is a part two to this. 2884 02:48:30,180 --> 02:48:32,430 Unknown: Yes, there is. And this comes at a time when there's a 2885 02:48:32,430 --> 02:48:36,360 new undiagnosed pneumonia breaking out in China and sprite 2886 02:48:36,690 --> 02:48:40,170 is in hospitalizations to spike. Now this is raising concern 2887 02:48:40,170 --> 02:48:43,080 among lawmakers here in Washington DC many of those whom 2888 02:48:43,080 --> 02:48:45,720 I spoke to said that they're very concerned about the issue 2889 02:48:45,720 --> 02:48:49,470 of transparency in the data coming out from China saying 2890 02:48:49,470 --> 02:48:51,990 that they don't even know how serious this pneumonia is 2891 02:48:51,990 --> 02:48:56,220 because China recently covered up the COVID 19 pandemic which 2892 02:48:56,220 --> 02:48:59,430 caused millions of deaths around the world. Okay, 2893 02:48:59,430 --> 02:49:02,880 Adam Curry: well, interesting. This may coincide with I have 2894 02:49:02,880 --> 02:49:08,430 two clips. What's going on in the UK as everything now all 2895 02:49:08,430 --> 02:49:12,720 deaths, everything is being blamed on Boris Johnson. You'll 2896 02:49:12,720 --> 02:49:15,630 recall that they had parties they had parties. 2897 02:49:16,320 --> 02:49:18,570 John C Dvorak: We had a clip the other what was the clip do Yeah, 2898 02:49:18,600 --> 02:49:21,360 he's the one who screwed up to Ukraine thing he went 2899 02:49:22,800 --> 02:49:25,800 Adam Curry: he'd been blamed for everything. Yeah. And it fall 2900 02:49:25,800 --> 02:49:28,710 guy and so now they have these inquiries because they had the 2901 02:49:28,710 --> 02:49:33,510 WhatsApp messages. And you know, supposedly Boris Johnson said, 2902 02:49:33,900 --> 02:49:37,200 you know, we're not locking down the economy Let The Bodies pile 2903 02:49:37,200 --> 02:49:41,790 up. Hi, let 80 year olds die. So this is what's now in the in the 2904 02:49:41,790 --> 02:49:43,200 British press mid 2905 02:49:43,200 --> 02:49:46,830 Unknown: March 2020 When most European countries were under 2906 02:49:46,830 --> 02:49:51,900 lockdown to stop the spread of COVID. In the UK, it was almost 2907 02:49:51,930 --> 02:49:56,910 business as usual. It's only on March 23 that former Prime 2908 02:49:56,910 --> 02:50:00,120 Minister Boris Johnson announced the first lockdown Oh, 2909 02:50:00,690 --> 02:50:03,570 you must stay at home. former 2910 02:50:03,570 --> 02:50:07,440 officials told the inquiry into the handling of COVID that 2911 02:50:07,440 --> 02:50:11,220 taking the decision so late likely cost lives. 2912 02:50:11,670 --> 02:50:15,840 I want to take this opportunity, if I may, my lady to apologize 2913 02:50:16,380 --> 02:50:22,980 to the victims who endured so much pain the families who 2914 02:50:22,980 --> 02:50:27,330 endured so much loss as a result of the mistakes that were made 2915 02:50:27,330 --> 02:50:28,110 by government. 2916 02:50:28,710 --> 02:50:33,630 Boris Johnson allegedly put the economy first sacrificing 2917 02:50:33,630 --> 02:50:38,190 vulnerable people he's accused of saying this to his advisers. 2918 02:50:38,250 --> 02:50:38,550 Did 2919 02:50:38,550 --> 02:50:41,880 you see them say like the bodies piled high in their 1000s or 2920 02:50:41,880 --> 02:50:43,560 it's only killing 80 year olds. 2921 02:50:45,090 --> 02:50:48,390 There's been a few different versions of this, these stories 2922 02:50:48,390 --> 02:50:52,470 knocking around. And you hear that? I heard that in Prime 2923 02:50:52,470 --> 02:50:53,100 Minister study. 2924 02:50:54,240 --> 02:50:58,290 former officials have told the inquiry that Johnson often 2925 02:50:58,290 --> 02:51:02,880 changed his mind and struggled to understand the science behind 2926 02:51:02,880 --> 02:51:03,900 the pandemic, 2927 02:51:05,130 --> 02:51:07,740 in saying that the Prime Minister at the time gave up 2928 02:51:07,740 --> 02:51:11,610 science when he was 15. And I think he'd be the first to admit 2929 02:51:11,640 --> 02:51:15,810 it wasn't his forte, and that he did struggle with some of the 2930 02:51:15,810 --> 02:51:19,290 concepts and we didn't need to repeat them often. 2931 02:51:19,770 --> 02:51:21,180 Adam Curry: Here's what's interesting. 2932 02:51:21,480 --> 02:51:25,290 John C Dvorak: Well hold on a second. This is sounds like bull 2933 02:51:25,290 --> 02:51:27,690 crap to me. Well, they 2934 02:51:27,690 --> 02:51:30,960 Adam Curry: have they have the WhatsApp messages. That's the 2935 02:51:30,960 --> 02:51:32,190 problem. Yeah. 2936 02:51:33,690 --> 02:51:35,460 John C Dvorak: I guess those can't be phony it up. 2937 02:51:36,540 --> 02:51:39,570 Adam Curry: No, no, I think it's the I think it's the real decay. 2938 02:51:39,570 --> 02:51:39,720 Well, 2939 02:51:39,720 --> 02:51:40,590 John C Dvorak: he hasn't denied it. 2940 02:51:40,620 --> 02:51:43,980 Adam Curry: But here you go. Well, he is kind of, you know 2941 02:51:43,980 --> 02:51:47,280 what? Anybody could have said that it doesn't matter. He's 2942 02:51:47,310 --> 02:51:51,180 He's the fall guy. But what's interesting is the hoity toity 2943 02:51:51,180 --> 02:51:57,000 Brit, the journalist, the news agents, UK, these are famous 2944 02:51:57,000 --> 02:52:00,210 journalist, they do the podcast and news agents. It is a very 2945 02:52:00,210 --> 02:52:03,000 successful podcast is financially successful. So 2946 02:52:03,240 --> 02:52:07,440 that's amazing by itself. So they're talking about this, and 2947 02:52:07,440 --> 02:52:11,340 then they reluctantly give Trump a compliment. 2948 02:52:11,400 --> 02:52:13,290 Unknown: He missed quite a lot of the detail 2949 02:52:13,320 --> 02:52:15,930 of how serious it was okay to do something I've very rarely done 2950 02:52:15,930 --> 02:52:19,140 before, which is to talk about the smooth good governance of 2951 02:52:19,140 --> 02:52:21,810 Donald Trump's administration at the same time, but it was the 2952 02:52:21,810 --> 02:52:26,160 31st of January, that they banned flights from China into 2953 02:52:26,160 --> 02:52:29,490 the US because they were so alarmed. COVID coming in, we 2954 02:52:29,490 --> 02:52:35,010 just racist at the time. Oh, another one of them. Exactly. 2955 02:52:35,010 --> 02:52:37,530 You thought that Trump was trying to kind of re litigate 2956 02:52:37,530 --> 02:52:40,260 the trade battle with China in different ways. And this was 2957 02:52:41,280 --> 02:52:42,060 John C Dvorak: China banned. 2958 02:52:43,140 --> 02:52:46,890 Unknown: Exactly. But there you were, at the end of January in 2959 02:52:46,890 --> 02:52:50,460 Washington, DC, with Trump announcing no more flights in 2960 02:52:50,490 --> 02:52:54,900 from China. And Boris Johnson is say, way into February Oh, we 2961 02:52:54,900 --> 02:52:57,990 didn't really realize how in Washington, I think they did 2962 02:52:57,990 --> 02:52:59,970 realize that it was pretty serious early on. 2963 02:53:00,600 --> 02:53:04,320 Adam Curry: And what's so unbelievable, is how Cavalier 2964 02:53:04,320 --> 02:53:08,700 they are now about their own reporting at the time, because 2965 02:53:08,700 --> 02:53:13,410 that's all you heard. The ACLU came out and said Trump was 2966 02:53:13,410 --> 02:53:18,060 racist against Asians. Yep. And the and I don't even know if 2967 02:53:18,060 --> 02:53:20,430 they had this. I don't think they had this podcast out. But 2968 02:53:20,730 --> 02:53:23,730 the certainly the companies they worked for at the time, they 2969 02:53:23,730 --> 02:53:27,030 were all like Trump's a racist, horrible, and now they can't, 2970 02:53:27,120 --> 02:53:30,330 oh, I'm gonna do something I don't do. I'm gonna say Trump 2971 02:53:30,330 --> 02:53:32,490 had a good handle on it. Because at the time, we just thought, 2972 02:53:32,490 --> 02:53:35,550 Oh, he's being racist. That means as a journalist, you suck. 2973 02:53:36,720 --> 02:53:43,470 You suck. It's unreal. Anyway, what time is it? Oh, it's time. 2974 02:53:45,810 --> 02:53:49,890 When do we want it? Now? We want some good news before we leave 2975 02:53:49,890 --> 02:53:51,480 the show. All right, I 2976 02:53:51,480 --> 02:53:54,960 John C Dvorak: gotta say this is a this is the Idaho clip. And 2977 02:53:54,960 --> 02:54:00,360 this is one of those local clips that goes on five, six minutes 2978 02:54:00,360 --> 02:54:06,150 of good news. They give me some woman some some love. And all I 2979 02:54:06,150 --> 02:54:09,090 need is just I just all I have here is the setup. I cut the 2980 02:54:09,090 --> 02:54:11,910 rest out where they actually go knock on her door, and they give 2981 02:54:11,910 --> 02:54:16,080 her those these awards, because the setup itself is good enough. 2982 02:54:16,290 --> 02:54:19,830 And it's good news II enough and it's one of those local things 2983 02:54:19,830 --> 02:54:22,230 that could have been cut if it was national news to be a minute 2984 02:54:22,230 --> 02:54:25,860 and a half instead as five, six minutes. So here we go. Merry 2985 02:54:25,860 --> 02:54:28,560 Unknown: Christmas, everybody. We are in the sweetest city in 2986 02:54:28,560 --> 02:54:32,310 Idaho. So they say sugar city. I'm Nate Eaton with Robert Peggy 2987 02:54:32,310 --> 02:54:35,010 and Jordan. We're about to surprise one of the sweetest 2988 02:54:35,010 --> 02:54:38,400 ladies who lives here. Her name is Martha. She has been widowed 2989 02:54:38,400 --> 02:54:42,180 for two decades she worked hard labor jobs like potato 2990 02:54:42,180 --> 02:54:45,180 warehouses, and she's not afraid to get her hands dirty when it 2991 02:54:45,180 --> 02:54:47,970 comes to working. She makes tortillas and other food 2992 02:54:47,970 --> 02:54:50,670 offerings for her neighbors. She's constantly making new 2993 02:54:50,670 --> 02:54:54,240 friends last year without any prompting or recognition. She 2994 02:54:54,240 --> 02:54:58,380 needed many cute owl beanies and donated several large boxes to 2995 02:54:58,380 --> 02:55:02,640 Primary Children's Hospital in New Utah. She lives alone, but 2996 02:55:02,640 --> 02:55:05,670 she never loses her spirit of friendship, compassion or 2997 02:55:05,670 --> 02:55:09,270 getting? Well, Martha has had a broken toilet for quite some 2998 02:55:09,270 --> 02:55:12,270 time. She hasn't been able to afford to get it fixed and 2999 02:55:12,270 --> 02:55:15,660 Secret Santa asked if we could come and make sure that toilet 3000 02:55:15,660 --> 02:55:19,410 gets fixed. He's paying for a plumber to fix the problem and 3001 02:55:19,410 --> 02:55:21,960 get her a new toilet if she needs it. He's also giving her 3002 02:55:21,960 --> 02:55:25,770 groceries for quite a bit $2,000 to the grocery store. And we 3003 02:55:25,770 --> 02:55:29,400 have $5,000 from Secret Santa just to let her know that she's 3004 02:55:29,400 --> 02:55:33,570 loved. I think we should go surprise her. Ah, 3005 02:55:33,630 --> 02:55:39,210 Adam Curry: no, that was beautiful. News. Everyone knows. 3006 02:55:39,240 --> 02:55:42,060 Yes. Thank you. You know what people are loving this segment, 3007 02:55:42,060 --> 02:55:42,450 John. 3008 02:55:43,500 --> 02:55:45,870 John C Dvorak: It's true. So you know where I'm getting. I'm 3009 02:55:45,870 --> 02:55:47,730 starting to get these now from Mimi. 3010 02:55:48,600 --> 02:55:51,090 Adam Curry: Oh, she is she's a good news, lady, isn't she? 3011 02:55:51,330 --> 02:55:51,690 She's 3012 02:55:51,690 --> 02:55:53,850 John C Dvorak: a good news lady. And she went and she's digging 3013 02:55:53,850 --> 02:55:55,740 up these good news stories. Oh, 3014 02:55:56,760 --> 02:55:58,320 Adam Curry: people like this stuff. 3015 02:56:00,150 --> 02:56:04,050 John C Dvorak: Got plenty backed up already. I got the dog in the 3016 02:56:04,050 --> 02:56:05,520 tree story coming up. 3017 02:56:06,720 --> 02:56:09,030 Adam Curry: That'll have to wait until Sunday. I know. Everyone's 3018 02:56:09,060 --> 02:56:12,570 you're pining for it. Please. Hold off. It'll be it'll be here 3019 02:56:12,570 --> 02:56:16,200 on Sunday the dog in the tree story. That is it. We will 3020 02:56:16,200 --> 02:56:19,950 return on Sunday with more media deconstruction just for you. I 3021 02:56:19,950 --> 02:56:23,190 think we gave you your money's worth, which for many of you is 3022 02:56:23,190 --> 02:56:28,320 nothing. So Thanks for Thanks for that. Coming to you from the 3023 02:56:28,320 --> 02:56:31,680 heart of the Texas Hill Country. In the morning, everybody. I'm 3024 02:56:31,680 --> 02:56:32,670 Adam curry and 3025 02:56:32,670 --> 02:56:35,070 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain 3026 02:56:35,070 --> 02:56:36,870 I'm John C. Dvorak. 3027 02:56:36,870 --> 02:56:40,860 Adam Curry: Next. I know agenda stream troll room.io. The modern 3028 02:56:40,860 --> 02:56:44,250 podcast app you're using. Oh, look at that. DHH unplugged. 3029 02:56:44,640 --> 02:56:47,820 It's the most recent episode from Tuesday titled too many 3030 02:56:47,820 --> 02:56:52,950 bowls. And I love my crocs. Remember us at the vorak.org/na 3031 02:56:52,950 --> 02:56:57,630 no agenda donations.com And till Sunday, adios mofos are who we 3032 02:56:57,750 --> 02:57:00,330 are, and such. 3033 02:57:02,100 --> 02:57:05,430 John C Dvorak: To get Henry Kissinger that Henry Kissinger 3034 02:57:05,430 --> 02:57:08,370 was he's the worst miss. He's the worst famous guy but he's 3035 02:57:08,370 --> 02:57:16,860 the worst. He killed millions. And he's a war criminal. Yes. He 3036 02:57:17,370 --> 02:57:18,240 was this. 3037 02:57:20,190 --> 02:57:23,730 Unknown: He has been involved in some of the most reprehensible 3038 02:57:23,760 --> 02:57:27,990 policies on the part of the United States, the assassination 3039 02:57:28,080 --> 02:57:32,850 of the President of Chile, a Lendy. And the support for a 3040 02:57:32,850 --> 02:57:38,010 brutal, murderous dictatorial regime the extending needlessly 3041 02:57:38,040 --> 02:57:43,350 of the Vietnam War, falsely claiming in 1972, that piece was 3042 02:57:43,350 --> 02:57:48,510 at hand supporting a murderous dictatorship in Pakistan, as 3043 02:57:48,510 --> 02:57:51,870 well as other dictators around the world. Few 3044 02:57:51,870 --> 02:57:55,530 people have had a hand in so much death and destruction in 3045 02:57:55,530 --> 02:57:58,800 different parts of the world than Henry Kissinger three in 3046 02:57:58,800 --> 02:58:02,070 particular suggests that Henry Kissinger could have been 3047 02:58:02,070 --> 02:58:06,420 accused of war crimes one is Cambodia the other is Pakistan 3048 02:58:06,420 --> 02:58:07,680 and the other is East Timor. 3049 02:58:08,610 --> 02:58:12,120 John C Dvorak: A war criminal what he would do it wouldn't do 3050 02:58:12,120 --> 02:58:14,880 it. It he's specifically do Do you know, because I tried to 3051 02:58:14,880 --> 02:58:15,570 look inside do 3052 02:58:15,600 --> 02:58:17,700 Adam Curry: I do he died while being Jewish? 3053 02:58:29,940 --> 02:58:35,250 We need we need another Jew to blame. I don't think so. This is 3054 02:58:35,250 --> 02:58:38,460 Hillary Clinton even know where she's walking. And there's 3055 02:58:38,460 --> 02:58:41,790 protesters. They are the Palestinian flags 3056 02:58:41,820 --> 02:58:44,370 Unknown: bloody Hillary do exist. It 3057 02:58:44,400 --> 02:58:45,960 Adam Curry: just existed existed. 3058 02:58:47,220 --> 02:58:48,240 John C Dvorak: Even Jewish. 3059 02:58:50,520 --> 02:58:53,400 Unknown: As we came, we saw he died. 3060 02:58:56,220 --> 02:58:57,900 Adam Curry: Doesn't really matter what 3061 02:58:57,930 --> 02:59:00,330 Unknown: difference at this point does it make? 3062 02:59:09,360 --> 02:59:15,030 Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, 3063 02:59:15,300 --> 02:59:19,950 Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, 3064 02:59:20,400 --> 02:59:26,100 all failed life's again. Yes, sometimes win or lose and don't 3065 02:59:26,100 --> 02:59:30,900 want maybe down right now. At least I don't work for Jews. 3066 02:59:32,490 --> 02:59:35,070 But the fact of the matter is the truth needs to be told 3067 02:59:35,130 --> 02:59:37,860 10 years ago when the bathroom situation came up. 3068 02:59:37,950 --> 02:59:41,040 The Al Qaeda wasn't wearing a uniform. You'd see anyone 3069 02:59:41,040 --> 02:59:43,380 walking down the street they all had man dresses on you didn't 3070 02:59:43,380 --> 02:59:46,740 know if someone had a bomb an ID attached or not. Maybe 3071 02:59:46,740 --> 02:59:49,290 you smoke a terrorist on your southern border. You go ahead 3072 02:59:49,290 --> 02:59:51,690 and we're rooting for you. We're gonna smoke the terrorists on 3073 02:59:51,720 --> 02:59:52,860 our own southern border 3074 02:59:59,070 --> 03:00:01,140 to hear you can't hear you You finish and then you get a 3075 03:00:01,140 --> 03:00:05,310 balance. That's why we have to focus on things like cyber on 3076 03:00:05,310 --> 03:00:08,310 space on artificial intelligence, and not just the 3077 03:00:08,310 --> 03:00:10,140 regular things that we've always focused on. Are 3078 03:00:10,140 --> 03:00:13,740 you saying that it's time to bomb Iran? No, I was not saying 3079 03:00:13,740 --> 03:00:15,690 it's time to bomb Iran, you know. 3080 03:00:18,240 --> 03:00:21,390 Here's the bottom line, you could go about it all you like 3081 03:00:21,390 --> 03:00:22,980 and continue to deny reality. 3082 03:00:23,040 --> 03:00:25,590 Buckle your seatbelts, there's going to be a new sheriff in 3083 03:00:25,590 --> 03:00:28,770 town. Do everybody a favor, just walk yourself off that stage 3084 03:00:28,770 --> 03:00:32,280 enjoy a nice meal and get the hell out of this. When it comes 3085 03:00:32,280 --> 03:00:32,880 to Nikki 3086 03:00:33,450 --> 03:00:35,910 as the most obnoxious blowhard in America and 3087 03:00:35,910 --> 03:00:36,960 the baby dive 3088 03:00:37,350 --> 03:00:43,440 to where you're just gonna put your iPod on shuffle No, but you 3089 03:00:43,440 --> 03:00:44,190 want to know why. 3090 03:00:45,570 --> 03:00:50,430 Because every single song you own is it is. 3091 03:00:55,470 --> 03:00:58,380 It is bang bang bang it 3092 03:01:05,700 --> 03:01:18,240 is bang bang, bang bang, bang. Bang bang 3093 03:01:23,640 --> 03:01:25,710 John C Dvorak: bang bang. Bang in. 3094 03:01:26,400 --> 03:01:34,350 Adam Curry: What is what is that? It is bang, bang. Bang, 3095 03:01:34,890 --> 03:01:38,010 bang. Bang 3096 03:01:39,030 --> 03:01:43,140 Unknown: acoustic instruments used is so, not a banger. Once 3097 03:01:43,140 --> 03:01:47,610 accidentally downloaded Lumineer Saab had to throw away my whole 3098 03:01:47,610 --> 03:01:48,600 computer to be safe. 3099 03:02:01,260 --> 03:02:07,170 vorak.org/in A There you go.