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John C Dvorak: Well now turns
out to be a complete hoax. Adam

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curry Jhansi Dvorak

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Adam Curry: 21st 2023 This Year
Award Winning Combination media

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assassination episode 1592. This
is no agenda, hitting the magic

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number on the nose and
broadcasting live from the heart

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of the Texas hill country here
in fingerings. Number six in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where everybody's

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rooting for a time of Fuji. I'm
John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Let me guess a time
of Fuji is a sumo wrestler.

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John C Dvorak: Exactly. He's
leading this September

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tournament. Oh, oh, 1233 matches
to go. I think

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Adam Curry: Oh, I'm so excited
for you. For you to be

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John C Dvorak: more excited for
him. He's like it. This is an up

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and comer. He's like 21 young
kid, as far as like a second big

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match ever. He's like six to 400
pounds. Good. Good. He's really

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good at it sounds like a winner.
This kid. I think he's going to

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be a yakka Zuna

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Adam Curry: Yokozuna? Well,
while we await his yuccas unis,

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it finally happened. We finally
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Unknown: While the clock is
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McCarthy, the Republican leader
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to find a deal to avoid another
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as a new report claims.
America's national debt has

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Adam Curry: Didn't we just hit
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John C Dvorak: was the number
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remember bringing this up once
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Adam Curry: I thought it was 32
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John C Dvorak: like Do you tend
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other way? Well, no, they're
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Here it is.

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Adam Curry: New York Times New
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US national debt tops 33
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if it's the New York Times, it
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trust to be true. Man. There's
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this past week, everyone acting
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actors, from our Ukrainian
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many, so many congress people
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beautiful show C span was the
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writer's strike. There was so
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I loved it. All kinds of
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John C Dvorak: Solinsky ever
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Adam Curry: I lay you know,
we've got to talk about his

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John C Dvorak: in hand floating
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guess today or yesterday with
the US Senate all the whole

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Senate. And he's, you know, no
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know, feta means out there.
They've made an exception so he

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could go and run the Senate with
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that he will wear a suit if the
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the war in Ukraine. So you know,
that must be very serious.

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Adam Curry: is what I mean this
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let's talk about this Alinsky
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the United Nations, man. What a
bunch of Jamocha that is over

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there. Oh man, warmongers.
Climate change where boy when

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John C Dvorak: we get there what
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excellency. Yes. And how does
that word, His Excellency Joe

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Biden. What is His Excellency
bullcrap. He called everybody

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who comes up to speak His
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Adam Curry: I'm gonna call you
we should call each other said

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your excellence. I was worried
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John C Dvorak: it calling you.
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Adam Curry: Yes, His Excellency,
His Excellency, the Honorable

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John Charles Dvorak. The floor
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think it's today. Today he comes
by CBS had a report.

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Unknown: Ukraine's president is
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asking for more help in the
fight against Russia with a

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government shutdown looming. It
could be a tough sell. Tufts

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gang has the latest from the
White House. We check Good

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Adam Curry: I love that at least
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job and he just for a second.
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everyone's you know, got their
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flowing gowns and the whole
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They've got their their hats,
people got the turbans everyone

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is decked out and Solinsky comes
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shirt. With with military dudes
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with this with? Can we get some
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It is a total costume. He's an
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Unknown: Good morning to you and
Marie and good morning to

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everybody, President Biden, and
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just at the United Nations
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Adam Curry: your absolute
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Unknown: today could be even
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have already come out to say
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support Ukraine further that
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US to stop shelling out cash.
President Biden has asked for

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another $24 billion. Yeah, 24

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John C Dvorak: billion, 4
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Adam Curry: but this is part
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to get everybody all
concentrated on this. Oh, you'd

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like you. How about fixing some
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Unknown: military aid that's on
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EU has has already spent now.
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as of right now it is weaved
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money that you are referring to,
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resolution to keep the
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of this month because the money
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now, you know whether there are
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big question. We do know that
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Minority Leader Mitch McConnell
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continuing the aid for Ukraine
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Republicans. But if you don't
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the numbers. Of course, it will
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Zielinski making that plea in
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Adam Curry: You mean His
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will that be any different other
than Oh, look, the actors come

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to our theater. It's all so lame
and and social media is just

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pumped full with everybody's got
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although I agree with him. We
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American cities are falling
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out there like, well, if we stop
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then there'll be more wars
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John C Dvorak: We're almost
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Adam Curry: getting close. I
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might be in this.

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Unknown: Ukraine to be carved
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Adam Curry: This is a new one.
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Hold on a second. Who's ever
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John C Dvorak: Well, is it
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been floating around that Poland
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Adam Curry: And Poland is like,
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gonna give any more weapons to
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grain. Why did you go pound
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you know, Poland, carving up the
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Unknown: is the independence of
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together with our allies and
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continue to stand with the brave
people Ukraine, as they defend

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our sovereignty and territorial
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Unknown: So one of the things I
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Adam Curry: was that he was
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stumbling and bumbling that was
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speech. Weijia is I felt like he
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recent messaging that we've been
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which is essentially it Ukraine
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Adam Curry: Well, gee, what a
coincidence. Our president is

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essentially echoing what the
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Unknown: Russia is not going to
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get involved in this conflict.
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It'll be World War Three, you
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lot of lawmakers that are a
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amount of spending whether or
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after bad whether this war can
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Zelinsky and President Biden
need to do to convince

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Philippine lawmakers to vote in
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Adam Curry: Good question, what
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Unknown: And Ray, I think it is
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Congress won't approve that big
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also hard to imagine that
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there are some Republicans who
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backs on Ukraine now, why would
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future? So it's not only about
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America's standing standing with
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John C Dvorak: is going to trust
us what that will be suckers to

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be soaked for billions.

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Adam Curry: Like we're so
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Unknown: going war, but it's
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Americans report overwhelmingly
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Adam Curry: isn't just thank you
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don't think so. Miss CBS lady,
but CBS, it's all set up because

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just now support is waning. They
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can use that actor in this
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happened to be doing a
documentary on this incredibly

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interesting actor. And then all
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are the chances? He's like, like
that just drops right in your

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lap and Sean Penn? Well, there's
no one better to bring the

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message of hope for Slava,
Ukraine, then Sean Penn and

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Unknown: one of the clips, Andre
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to President Solinsky says to
you, the US position should be

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stronger if the United States
and Joe Biden doesn't do

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something now, essentially, he
says America is over. That

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Adam Curry: pretty well. Oh,
yeah. No, if you say it's, yeah,

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if America doesn't help, America
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That's what that's what's
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John C Dvorak: That's what was
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Adam Curry: one of the top
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one of the one of the shares
what he thinks, well, he has a

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speaking role. Hello, he gets a
SAG card

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John C Dvorak: does this show
Yes, it gets the minimum he gets

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a SAG card minimum

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Adam Curry: wage, he

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Unknown: says to you, you know,
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stronger if the United States
and Joe Biden doesn't do

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something now, essentially, he
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John C Dvorak: we're never gonna
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us. After all the money we've
given them, this is getting

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Adam Curry: hey, you're paying
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of weapons. But by what I've
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United States isn't doing
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John C Dvorak: these opposed to
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in my reading of of the February
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Adam Curry: I have to be just
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on this planet. The amount of
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you don't do x, then nuclear
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it's you find something new,
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witnesses in the film says, you
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gangster with nuclear weapons
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Adam Curry: is talking about
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John C Dvorak: wait a minute,
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Adam Curry: Apparently, Putin

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John C Dvorak: So we have to
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Adam Curry: I'm so happy there.
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John C Dvorak: stopping because
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Adam Curry: you understand? Shut
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hills. And I was actually told
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Adam Curry: Everyone knows
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Nicole Wallace on MSNBC, she
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. So and so
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thought. But it's ludicrous.
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one person at this event. I
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that Putin is actually running
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Adam Curry: It's his playbook.
He's calling the shots. That's

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right. That's right. And that's
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Adam Curry: let him do that.
Thank you, Ukraine, Slava. So we

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they are the embodiment of what
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had F sixteens. Air Defense long
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Adam Curry: da, we have done
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range weapons, it's just we have
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horrible. And then the truth
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help of that my name. Oh,

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Adam Curry: I missed. Okay, I'm
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John C Dvorak: I should have
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not only a principal when in in
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our help of that might

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Adam Curry: escalate it, we got
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said. I think it's a principle
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right? We've got a bomb Moscow
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central bank had said to you,
World War Three has begun and

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Ukraine is the frontline. So
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that that's just hyperbole. You
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Adam Curry: what I don't know is
which central bank had said

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that. So in this film, which I
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head said World War Three has
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way is one of the more
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Adam Curry: do you think it was
Powell could have been Powell

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John C Dvorak: I would have said
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Adam Curry: the European Central
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that's Fifi Lagarde so couldn't
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because it was a he was it the
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Adam Curry: Very impressive guy.
Now I'm jumping out of this. I

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want to screw this guy. He's
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listen to Andrea Mitchell
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rapport. I think this includes
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deter other would be aggressors
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In an impassioned speech,
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Adam Curry: are impassioned
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even tell the truth about that?
I mean, I saw the speech you saw

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John C Dvorak: I was hoping for
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Adam Curry: didn't check him off
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incoherent Is that what you
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Warning of dire consequences if
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We abandon the core principles
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aggressor. Can any member state
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with growing calls in the US and
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Adam Curry: that's the best
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man, this body,

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John C Dvorak: I got no sound
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aid to Ukraine, Ukraine's
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appearing in person this year to
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The goal of the present war
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lands, our people our lives, our
resources into a weapon against

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you. Again the international
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today at the UN Security Council
Solinsky will present his peace

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plan calling for a full Russian
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reparations to rebuild his
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Zelinsky will travel to
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President Biden at the White
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continue his military support.
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divided over the Biden
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additional $24 billion for
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accountability on the money
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but that consequences of pulling
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enormous. It will lead to more
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Adam Curry: where it is. We can
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more war not less. That logic is
interesting as your logic that's

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your logic. And now it turns
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from Pakistan. We didn't really
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John C Dvorak: out well, it
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Adam Curry: I know we had
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got kicked out. And now it turns
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Prime Minister Khan was that his
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Excellency Khan got kicked out
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making cheap ammo for Ukraine,
in Pakistan at our at our

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behest. At least that is,
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John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, he was
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can't seem to make our own ammo
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we're finally concluding here?
The real takeaway from this, all

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Adam Curry: Well, so here's the
worst part. So we're seeing when

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we spend billions of dollars for
the war in Ukraine, Slava

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Ukraine. It's supposed to go to
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bound. We're joined now by Ryan

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Grim the intercepts Washington
bureau chief, his latest piece

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co written with Murtaza Hussein
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John C Dvorak: second. This has
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that the intercept which is an
online has a Washington bureau

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chief, of course, as if they
have like, you know, a ton of

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people and why do they use a
bureau and is the chief of the

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Bureau and he's assigning this
and that to different, please.

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Adam Curry: And supposedly they
got gobs and gobs of money which

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John C Dvorak: comes where they
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they don't have a Washington
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Adam Curry: well, we have a
Washington bureau chief, His

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Excellency John C. Dvorak, the
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no agenda show might as well be

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Unknown: is headlined us help
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secret arms deal for Ukraine
leaked documents show so

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elaborate on this Ryan Grim talk
about the significance of the

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arms deal, and Pakistan's
changing position on the Ukraine

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war. In fact, it happened to be
that Imran Khan was visiting

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with Russia, President Putin the
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Adam Curry: want a name like
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invaded Ukraine.

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Unknown: Absolutely. Fury ated.
Washington. Several weeks later,

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is when you had that critical
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Secretary Lew conveyed
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was that Khan stays in power,
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the EU and from the United
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out of power, then all will be
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and no policy. In other words,
that if somebody knew were put

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in place, the hope was that
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ally again, of the United States
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generally, but very specifically
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Adam Curry: Aha, now wait a
minute, isn't isn't Pakistan all

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in with China, just to just to
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John C Dvorak: is traditionally
traditionally ignoring China?

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Pakistan was our buddy. Yeah.
And India was Russia's buddy,

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Adam Curry: right. We used to
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John C Dvorak: and Pakistan
would buy our jets and India

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Adam Curry: jets Yeah. And
they'd fight over Kashmir

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John C Dvorak: over one thing or
another Kashmir being just

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Kashmir just fight they would
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that there's just irony

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everywhere with this
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trying to buddy up to India and
Modi doesn't like this and that.

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some clips I get later. This is
continue with this. The second

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Unknown: since Khan was has was
removed from power what has been

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Pakistan's position on the war
in Ukraine?

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We're all interestingly, the
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response to our story, flat out
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any weapons for the for the war
in Ukraine. Nope. Nobody

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believes that. We're not we're
not the first to kind of report

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on this. We're the first to
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there has been There have been
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photographic evidence of
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that are being used who video in
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that they're operating this, you
know, multi 100 million dollar.

455
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It's over a billion by now
because our our data stopped

456
00:25:17,970 --> 00:25:22,020
last summer. The production of
the munitions war effort makes

457
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it makes it clear that after
Kahn was removed, Pakistan

458
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became a reliable ally of the
United States in this war. All

459
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right.

460
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Adam Curry: So here's the spook
reporting on how a whole bunch

461
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:37,290
of other spooks kick Cohn out.
Yeah, you're not you're not

462
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,240
John C Dvorak: that's a Yeah,
railroaded out.

463
00:25:39,390 --> 00:25:40,860
Adam Curry: This is what we call
democracy.

464
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Unknown: Pakistani democracy may
ultimately be a casualty of

465
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,200
Ukraine's counter offensive. So
why would the US and its allies

466
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go to such lengths for
Pakistan's allegiance to on

467
00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:55,260
Ukraine? Oh,

468
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Adam Curry: what do you think,
John? What could it be? Why

469
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would Pakistan go through all
those links? Because they're

470
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supposed to be our buddy, right?
You just said it, then you do

471
00:26:05,340 --> 00:26:10,200
you want our jets Pakistan? Then
you gotta make some bullets? I

472
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think,

473
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Unknown: yep. When the United
States has a primary foreign

474
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policy objective, and in
particular, when it's a war,

475
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everything else falls away. And
that's what you're seeing in

476
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:25,050
Pakistan now. And for Pakistan
is the irony is clearly not lost

477
00:26:25,050 --> 00:26:28,950
that the United States and is
bringing together and of the the

478
00:26:28,980 --> 00:26:32,010
the world to stand up for the
defense of democracy and

479
00:26:32,010 --> 00:26:36,300
sovereignty in Ukraine, while
you know, quite deliberately and

480
00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:41,400
openly sacrificing democracy in
a country of 230 million people

481
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in in Pakistan,

482
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Adam Curry: man, Mr. Grim, no
one buys it anymore. No one buys

483
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,740
it. No one cares. People want
their potholes fixed. I do.

484
00:26:52,770 --> 00:26:55,680
Yeah. Yeah. You got anything
else on Ukraine?

485
00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:59,070
John C Dvorak: I just have the
NTD report on Zelinsky. It's

486
00:26:59,070 --> 00:27:00,750
just kind of a wrap. No, that's
worth.

487
00:27:01,590 --> 00:27:05,040
Unknown: This is in D. D.
Turning now to the war in

488
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Ukraine. Speaking before the UN
Security Council today Ukrainian

489
00:27:08,730 --> 00:27:12,510
president flooded the lottery
Solinsky urged the organization

490
00:27:12,510 --> 00:27:13,290
this trip rod

491
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,800
Adam Curry: would just say is
the Lansky you don't have to go

492
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,100
all out and say Kyiv and
Volodymyr Iranian

493
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:23,070
Unknown: President flooded man
with a lot of means linski the

494
00:27:23,070 --> 00:27:23,910
organization or

495
00:27:23,910 --> 00:27:27,210
Adam Curry: she's the homegrown
honey, I screwed up I feel bad

496
00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:30,450
and say right. Now when I see
him, I'm going to shake his hand

497
00:27:30,450 --> 00:27:32,430
he'll be like, Oh, you had a
lady mispronounce my name. Oh,

498
00:27:32,430 --> 00:27:33,480
it's so cute.

499
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:36,360
Unknown: Um, so today, Ukrainian
president flooded man with a lot

500
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of news. He urged the
organization to strip Russia of

501
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,830
its veto power.

502
00:27:41,610 --> 00:27:44,520
Therefore, the UN General
Assembly should be given a real

503
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,750
power to overcome the veto. This
will be the first necessary

504
00:27:48,750 --> 00:27:52,620
step. It is impossible to stop
the war because all efforts are

505
00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:54,030
vetoed by the aggressor.

506
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Solinsky added that he won't
accept any peace deal unless it

507
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requires Russia's complete
withdrawal from Ukrainian

508
00:28:01,350 --> 00:28:05,580
territory. He went on to accuse
the UN of a willingness to quote

509
00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:09,690
compromise with killers. Russian
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov

510
00:28:09,690 --> 00:28:13,320
was not present for Zelinsky
speech and Solinsky left the

511
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,920
meeting before Lavrov spoke
later. The Ukrainian president

512
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is slated to be on Capitol Hill
tomorrow morning, he will be

513
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meeting with the entire Senate.

514
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:25,650
Adam Curry: I hope someone
stands up and just says hey, you

515
00:28:25,650 --> 00:28:31,590
second rate actor go away. I
mean, it's just all gonna be

516
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:34,740
this pandering. Thank you. Your
Excellency, thank you for making

517
00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:42,270
the dangerous trip here. From
from the UN building. Now, it's

518
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:47,160
where you wish and meanwhile, I
don't know about the rest of the

519
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,690
world but the United States of
America was caught in the

520
00:28:51,690 --> 00:28:53,790
biggest distraction.

521
00:29:00,750 --> 00:29:03,060
Pay no attention anything but
this people.

522
00:29:03,450 --> 00:29:07,290
Unknown: It took nearly 28 hours
to find it. But crews finally

523
00:29:07,290 --> 00:29:10,110
started picking up the pieces
from the crash of one of his

524
00:29:10,110 --> 00:29:14,880
country's most sophisticated jet
fighters. Boom. I mean, it's

525
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,880
scary to think that something
landed that close our house, the

526
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,230
pilot of the marine F 35.
injected Sunday afternoon, just

527
00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:25,530
a mile from the Charleston
airport. But the plane went

528
00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:29,790
missing, forcing the military to
tweet out an appeal for any

529
00:29:29,790 --> 00:29:31,620
information on its whereabouts.

530
00:29:31,980 --> 00:29:35,700
How does it just disappear? And
how does the Pentagon ask for

531
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:39,540
the public's help in finding it?
It's just a huge embarrassment.

532
00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:44,550
The plane was one of two f 35
flying at 1000 feet as they came

533
00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:50,910
into land when something went
wrong. The pilot who objected

534
00:29:50,910 --> 00:29:54,150
had already been discharged from
the hospital. By the time the

535
00:29:54,150 --> 00:30:02,550
$100 million plane was found 60
miles away yourself. David Burke

536
00:30:02,550 --> 00:30:06,960
is a former F 35 pilot who once
commanded the same unit, it

537
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,310
doesn't surprise you that a
plane could have an emergency

538
00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:15,510
serious enough for the pilot to
eject and still be able to fly

539
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:17,130
another 60 miles. It's a

540
00:30:17,130 --> 00:30:20,400
pretty rare event. But as
uncommon as it might be, it's a

541
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,580
plausible thing. Even at 1000
feet, that's the nose was

542
00:30:23,580 --> 00:30:26,940
pitched up or moving up, the jet
will fly for many miles.

543
00:30:27,149 --> 00:30:31,829
The F 35 is a stealth jet. Hard
to track, especially because

544
00:30:31,829 --> 00:30:35,759
it's transponder was on to
standard procedure in a two

545
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:36,749
plane formation.

546
00:30:36,810 --> 00:30:40,620
So it's very common in any way
for the wingman to secure

547
00:30:40,650 --> 00:30:42,630
meaning to turn off their
transponder.

548
00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:45,930
Adam Curry: All right, so let's
just first of all we have we

549
00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:50,910
have our own F Navy pilots. Then
they all they all emailed me

550
00:30:50,910 --> 00:30:53,700
saying oh my god, first of all,
they email me all the funniest

551
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:58,740
memes the F 35 on the milk
carton. knows all of that. Here

552
00:30:58,740 --> 00:31:00,180
it is the pilot gonna

553
00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:03,810
John C Dvorak: use that one.
What's that? So they could use

554
00:31:03,810 --> 00:31:04,860
that water for the newsletter?
It

555
00:31:04,860 --> 00:31:06,510
Adam Curry: was actually it
wasn't that good. There were a

556
00:31:06,510 --> 00:31:08,640
couple of them and there were
some very funny ones. I liked

557
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,900
the one where it's for sale on
eBay. You know, some of that is

558
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:17,430
good. And obviously the
communications within our armed

559
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:21,240
forces are just no good so the
fact that they put this out on

560
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,290
social media if you're just
looking for but it was a good

561
00:31:25,290 --> 00:31:30,240
distraction so most people that
I saw it was hacked it was a

562
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,750
hack China hack to China hack
trying to hack the God just

563
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:38,580
because you're trying to have
the jet and then the funniest

564
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,370
that's a good one that was
another good one on telegrams

565
00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:44,160
like they found the pilots
wallet, which means he didn't

566
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,060
really eject you landed it there
and then the Chinese took it.

567
00:31:48,420 --> 00:31:51,870
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, I did
see the wallet while I was a

568
00:31:51,870 --> 00:31:52,920
high roller.

569
00:31:54,690 --> 00:31:57,120
Adam Curry: Here's the general
take pilot had an emergency when

570
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,560
he slashy as possible step
through the emergency procedures

571
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,590
that led the pilot to ejection
as the only solution in the

572
00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:08,190
emergency procedures matrix.
Maybe we should not have bought

573
00:32:08,190 --> 00:32:13,050
an expensive single engine
fighter jet. If the autopilot

574
00:32:13,050 --> 00:32:16,140
was on at the time of ejection
is very feasible. The aircraft

575
00:32:16,140 --> 00:32:20,460
continued on until out of gas or
upset by something else perhaps

576
00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:25,350
flying into a thunderstorm. Our
F pilots say it's more likely

577
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:30,390
that the single engine flamed
out could have been out of gas

578
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,780
could have just flipped
flameouts happen and the pilot

579
00:32:33,780 --> 00:32:38,550
was too low couldn't restart it
punched out and these things

580
00:32:38,550 --> 00:32:43,080
happen you know these things
happen but it became such a Oh

581
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,960
such a conspiracy and now
accentuated by I think the best

582
00:32:48,990 --> 00:32:53,790
Central Casting did a great job.
Did you see the F 35 crash

583
00:32:53,790 --> 00:32:54,480
witness

584
00:32:56,010 --> 00:32:57,330
John C Dvorak: oh the black guy

585
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Adam Curry: oh this guy is the
best

586
00:33:00,870 --> 00:33:04,290
Unknown: and bad don't take it
taking a shave. And I heard a

587
00:33:04,290 --> 00:33:07,950
speech and saw that between a
speech and a whistle

588
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:18,210
this house your bike says he
didn't realize it was a plane at

589
00:33:18,210 --> 00:33:19,740
the time so we didn't call
anybody

590
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,850
enemy as much what's in the
meter right come out of space or

591
00:33:23,850 --> 00:33:26,790
something. And as they well
they're playing it needs to be

592
00:33:26,790 --> 00:33:28,980
reported but the thing flying is
too low.

593
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,260
Adam Curry: is too low.

594
00:33:31,470 --> 00:33:35,340
Unknown: Helicopters walk jobs
keep flying around so it was

595
00:33:35,340 --> 00:33:38,370
something somebody must have
robbed the bank or killed some

596
00:33:38,370 --> 00:33:41,670
people. I walked up there. It
told me was

597
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,720
the plan. Do you have 35 B
airplane wreckage created an

598
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,350
extensive debris field the
wreckage is located off Old

599
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:52,740
Georgetown Road military
security is very tight with

600
00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:55,650
numerous red and white signs on
the side of the road that read

601
00:33:55,980 --> 00:33:59,370
No Trespassing this area has
been designated a national

602
00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:00,510
defense area

603
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,290
to the grace of God nobody get
hurt because the church right up

604
00:34:04,290 --> 00:34:05,910
there about a half mile

605
00:34:06,090 --> 00:34:08,820
about a mile of Old Georgetown
Road will be closed for an

606
00:34:08,820 --> 00:34:10,230
unknown period of time

607
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,330
anything man making malfunction
again the benefit of doubt but

608
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,090
it needs to be investigated and
the public need to know what

609
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:18,990
really happened

610
00:34:18,989 --> 00:34:20,879
Adam Curry: to us right public
needs to know what really

611
00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:23,939
happened by the way that scream
he did I mean that was that's

612
00:34:23,939 --> 00:34:26,789
just it's so good scream that's
what let's let's compare

613
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:35,100
man goes good night guys. Good.

614
00:34:36,810 --> 00:34:40,950
John C Dvorak: Country. South
Carolina backwoods.

615
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:45,810
Adam Curry: I love this guy. I
love him. He needs to he needs

616
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,280
people Drogon Rogan needs to get
that guy on the Rogen. I'm gonna

617
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,890
tell Joe you need that guy on
the show. For sure. You know the

618
00:34:55,890 --> 00:34:59,970
F 35 has had problems and yes
single engine flame out at a

619
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,340
1000 feet, you got a problem?
And then the question is, how

620
00:35:05,340 --> 00:35:06,900
far did it go? I mean, we don't
know anything.

621
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,599
John C Dvorak: But boy oh, no
anything. Oh, I

622
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,050
Adam Curry: did it was everybody
obsessed with it? Not quite as

623
00:35:13,050 --> 00:35:17,550
obsessed with the National
alert, which should be taking

624
00:35:17,550 --> 00:35:21,450
place on October 4, I think
another on October 11. And we

625
00:35:21,450 --> 00:35:26,850
had this during President
Obama's time when he was going

626
00:35:26,850 --> 00:35:30,930
to fire off the alert. Remember
that? No. Oh, come on. It was

627
00:35:30,930 --> 00:35:35,130
gonna be the everyone's cell
phone. All the television

628
00:35:35,130 --> 00:35:36,000
station

629
00:35:36,030 --> 00:35:38,130
John C Dvorak: only vaguely
remembered because of my

630
00:35:38,190 --> 00:35:40,320
nothing. My house went off.

631
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,310
Adam Curry: Well, no, in fact, I
recall that we were laughing

632
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:48,150
that half of it didn't work at
all. But it was oh, hold Obama.

633
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:51,060
Yeah. Oh, and this is Ed, he's
in there taken over our phones.

634
00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:56,250
Well, there's a new one. And
this, this was blanketing X.

635
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,490
There were there were entire
text groups going around saying

636
00:36:02,670 --> 00:36:06,030
make sure whatever you do, keep
your phone off that you should

637
00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:09,330
unplug your computer, unplug
your television because that's

638
00:36:09,330 --> 00:36:10,770
going to be bad thing

639
00:36:10,799 --> 00:36:14,459
Unknown: a warning going around
that on October 4, and if it

640
00:36:14,459 --> 00:36:17,249
doesn't happen on October 4,
it's going to be on October 11.

641
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:22,559
At 222. Eastern the emergency
broadcasting system under FEMA

642
00:36:22,889 --> 00:36:26,369
is going to be activated and the
you know this is like the high

643
00:36:26,369 --> 00:36:30,449
pitch be saying this is only a
test it's not a test. It's going

644
00:36:30,449 --> 00:36:33,839
to be sending these high
frequency signals into cell

645
00:36:33,839 --> 00:36:37,319
phones, radios TVs, the
intention of activating

646
00:36:37,319 --> 00:36:41,999
nanoparticles including graphene
oxide, what does graphene oxide

647
00:36:41,999 --> 00:36:46,229
and do to the human body? Well
it induces cell toxicity through

648
00:36:46,229 --> 00:36:50,309
plasma membrane damage
generation of reactive oxygen

649
00:36:50,309 --> 00:36:55,799
species and DNA damage. Damage
any concentration above 20

650
00:36:55,799 --> 00:37:01,229
micrograms per millimeter for 24
hours is considered toxic. Hold

651
00:37:01,229 --> 00:37:05,369
up because this sounds like the
movie the cell Israel is not

652
00:37:05,369 --> 00:37:07,919
happy about this and supposedly
they're doing some things to

653
00:37:07,919 --> 00:37:10,919
stop it and maybe it will stop
there but it's going to happen

654
00:37:11,189 --> 00:37:12,449
in the United States.

655
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,990
Adam Curry: Calm down ladies.
Calm down. People were seriously

656
00:37:18,990 --> 00:37:22,650
freaking out about this. Oh no,
it's going to activate the

657
00:37:22,650 --> 00:37:26,490
nanoparticles. If you had the
Vax, you're gonna die because

658
00:37:26,490 --> 00:37:30,030
the graphene oxide will
immediately create toxicity in

659
00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:33,480
your body and you'll fall over
dead this is what they're doing

660
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:37,620
this is it I just feel

661
00:37:37,620 --> 00:37:39,480
John C Dvorak: comes up with
this stuff that you have to

662
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,670
assume this is not who'd come up
with that it just doesn't make

663
00:37:44,670 --> 00:37:45,660
any sense.

664
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:48,330
Adam Curry: Well, I think you
know what it is we've got a dog

665
00:37:48,330 --> 00:37:51,780
bar yeah this Yeah, she there's
someone at the door. We've

666
00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:57,870
gotten to the point where
through media and M five M and

667
00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:03,030
alternative media Phoebe. People
just don't trust their

668
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:07,740
government. And when when people
lose trust in the government

669
00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:11,850
then everything kind of goes out
the door. But I mean like real

670
00:38:11,850 --> 00:38:18,690
real loss of trust. And and
what's the blahs anus about it

671
00:38:18,690 --> 00:38:24,060
like Phoebe? Phoebe Come, come
here. Just nanoparticles.

672
00:38:26,010 --> 00:38:27,900
John C Dvorak: Maybe Phoebe's
got a clue could be

673
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:30,630
Adam Curry: she's like, Daddy
Daddy nanoparticles are

674
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:35,490
activated. So this just there is
a loss of trust in government,

675
00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:39,000
which was actually now man I'm
gonna have to play a clip so I

676
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,870
can go deal with her.

677
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:42,870
John C Dvorak: It's just
triggered by lies. Well, yes, of

678
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:44,430
government Lies don't help.

679
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:48,360
Adam Curry: But when but that
Yeah, right. That's one thing

680
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,450
but then when we get to the
complete loss of trust, then

681
00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:56,910
people don't. I went to the city
council meeting here. And yeah,

682
00:38:56,910 --> 00:38:59,490
we actually we actually got
something done no tax increase.

683
00:39:00,990 --> 00:39:07,500
Good move, but the the the
distrust and the disdain to our

684
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:11,640
mayor's a musician, you know,
just a dude. And you know, but

685
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,210
okay, he's the mayor. And you
can just see the hatred. People

686
00:39:15,210 --> 00:39:18,330
hate like, This is bad. This is
no good. I can see what they're

687
00:39:18,330 --> 00:39:20,700
doing. They're putting onto the
play, which of course most of

688
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:27,330
the time is true. In nowhere was
this more evident than the

689
00:39:27,330 --> 00:39:32,700
grilling of garland. This is
another TV miniseries that

690
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:40,140
played out in in this was
Congress. And I have three clips

691
00:39:40,140 --> 00:39:44,460
that are just dynamite. But all
by actors I have never really

692
00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:47,280
seen. These are as far as I'm
concerned. These are the

693
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,170
newcomers. Again, we don't do
sag AFTRA writers we don't need

694
00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:55,980
you. This is the play right
here. We start off with

695
00:39:55,980 --> 00:40:00,090
Representative van Drew, who is
a Republican from the New

696
00:40:00,090 --> 00:40:05,880
Jersey. He used to be a Democrat
which I did not know. And he

697
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,260
brings up the Catholic
traditional Catholic extremists

698
00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:10,950
memo

699
00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:15,390
John C Dvorak: is a decent clip.
And garland freaks out

700
00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:19,530
Adam Curry: so that so this is a
memo from January 23. From the

701
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,100
FBI field office in Richmond,
Virginia titled interest of

702
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:27,720
racially or ethnically motivated
violent extremists in radical

703
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:30,990
traditionalist Catholic
ideology, almost certainly

704
00:40:30,990 --> 00:40:35,010
present new mitigation
opportunities. FBI enrichment

705
00:40:35,010 --> 00:40:37,830
assesses the increasingly
observed interest of racially

706
00:40:37,830 --> 00:40:42,090
and ethnically motivated violent
extremists RMDs in racial

707
00:40:42,090 --> 00:40:45,960
traditionalist Catholic
ideology, for a wave of

708
00:40:46,170 --> 00:40:48,390
opportunities for threat
mitigation to the exploration of

709
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:52,560
new avenues for tripwire, and
source development. In other

710
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,420
words, the FBI was sending
undercover agents into churches

711
00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:01,590
to root out these violent
extremists.

712
00:41:01,650 --> 00:41:04,440
Unknown: The actions of the DOJ
are on you the decline of

713
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,030
Americans trust in our federal
law enforcement is on you or the

714
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:14,190
pilot, political weaponization
of the DOJ is on you, the

715
00:41:14,190 --> 00:41:17,400
Attorney General I need a simple
yes or no to the following just

716
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,670
yes or no, because we don't have
much time. Do you agree that

717
00:41:20,670 --> 00:41:24,300
traditional Catholics are
violent extremists? Yes or no?

718
00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:29,340
Let me answer what you've said
in that long list. I'll be happy

719
00:41:29,340 --> 00:41:32,370
to answer all of those
attorneys. I control the time

720
00:41:32,370 --> 00:41:35,640
I'm going to ask you to answer a
controlled time by asking me a

721
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,490
substantial number of things. I
didn't ask you those things.

722
00:41:39,450 --> 00:41:40,440
Attorney General

723
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:48,540
John C Dvorak: hold on so this
has got to end why these idiots

724
00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:52,110
both Democrats and Republicans
do this job yes and no yes and

725
00:41:52,110 --> 00:41:56,130
no, they make a big point of it.
And the guy never answers yes

726
00:41:56,130 --> 00:42:00,000
and no and he's and the time
he's trying to save is wasted.

727
00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:04,950
But the back and forth that's
now begins with sunlight you can

728
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:07,980
answer yes or no? What you have
to answer yes or no. And it goes

729
00:42:08,310 --> 00:42:13,410
this is the most ludicrous it's
worse than like it's not even

730
00:42:13,410 --> 00:42:15,420
good writing. I have to say

731
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,840
Adam Curry: writers writers
writer room

732
00:42:19,379 --> 00:42:22,559
John C Dvorak: because this is
you know, answer yes or no. I'm

733
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:25,739
trying to make time my I only
have tried so much time and the

734
00:42:25,739 --> 00:42:30,869
time is wasted. bitching about
your time and the yes and no and

735
00:42:30,869 --> 00:42:32,909
the rest of it? I'm sorry.

736
00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:36,270
Adam Curry: Were you confused
with this being something that

737
00:42:36,270 --> 00:42:40,650
is that is a real question and
answer session. No, this is a

738
00:42:40,650 --> 00:42:44,850
script this is a script to
communicate something to the

739
00:42:44,850 --> 00:42:46,740
American people and this I don't
know

740
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:49,470
John C Dvorak: what to try to
communicate with this I have yes

741
00:42:49,470 --> 00:42:52,530
go they continue with this. This
is what actually one of the

742
00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:57,690
better exchanges because garland
gets all bent out of shape about

743
00:42:57,690 --> 00:43:00,180
it. If I'm not mistaken if

744
00:43:00,930 --> 00:43:02,490
Adam Curry: there's there's a
number of well

745
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,710
Unknown: Stansell a number of
things and when I didn't ask you

746
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:09,270
those things. Attorney General
through the chair I asked you do

747
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:12,480
you agree that traditional
Catholics or violent extremists

748
00:43:12,930 --> 00:43:17,310
have no idea what you're what
the traditional means here?

749
00:43:18,149 --> 00:43:20,429
Adam Curry: I love that. He's
like got to think about

750
00:43:20,429 --> 00:43:23,849
something that no one gave me
this grip How come I wasn't

751
00:43:23,849 --> 00:43:25,019
where's my sides

752
00:43:25,050 --> 00:43:29,490
Unknown: had no idea what you're
what the traditional means here.

753
00:43:30,180 --> 00:43:34,050
Let me just go to church. Man. I
answered your question just idea

754
00:43:34,170 --> 00:43:37,860
that someone with my family
background. Eric clarity

755
00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:42,270
discriminate against any
religion is so outrageous, just

756
00:43:42,270 --> 00:43:46,140
so absurd. As your attorney
general it was your FBI that did

757
00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:50,610
this. It was your FBI that was
sending and we have the memos we

758
00:43:50,610 --> 00:43:54,870
have the emails, we're sending
undercover agents into Catholic

759
00:43:54,870 --> 00:44:01,050
churches. I am the director of
said have said that we were

760
00:44:01,050 --> 00:44:04,650
appalled by that memo then you
agree that they're not extremely

761
00:44:04,650 --> 00:44:08,730
we're appalled by that memo or
they are not Attorney General. I

762
00:44:08,730 --> 00:44:12,360
think are they extremists or not
Attorney General in that memo is

763
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,480
with a extremist or not I'm
asking a simple question say no

764
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,600
if you think that was wrong
likes are not extremists. No.

765
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,740
Was anyone fired for drafting
circulate circulating the anti

766
00:44:22,740 --> 00:44:26,970
Catholic memo you have in front
of you the inspection?

767
00:44:27,390 --> 00:44:30,810
Divisions? Investigate tell me
yes or no please. I don't have

768
00:44:30,810 --> 00:44:32,340
no time. I don't know the
answer.

769
00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:39,480
Adam Curry: I don't know. Okay,
not to be outdone. We have the

770
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,520
new Best New Actress. Where has
she been all my life Victoria

771
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:50,220
spots from Indiana. And she
hooks right into the Attorney

772
00:44:50,220 --> 00:44:53,070
General being you know, from
immigrant parents from Wesley

773
00:44:53,070 --> 00:44:56,160
from Belarus or something.

774
00:44:56,759 --> 00:44:58,289
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
Thanks. So

775
00:44:58,530 --> 00:45:01,980
Adam Curry: now this This
Congresswoman represents a

776
00:45:01,980 --> 00:45:06,450
district in Indiana. And she is
she was born in Ukraine. And she

777
00:45:06,450 --> 00:45:11,910
is a Ukrainian American. And she
has a dynamite look. I mean,

778
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:16,230
kudos on hair and makeup for for
what they did with her here. She

779
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:20,520
has the perfect accent. And and
of course, because of her

780
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,640
accent, she can take it all the
way to you know, we're living

781
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:25,230
under a Stasi regime.

782
00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:30,330
Unknown: Are you aware that a
lot of Americans are now afraid

783
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:33,510
or be prosecuted by your
department? Are you aware about

784
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:36,840
that? Are you aware of that? I'm
just saying, are you aware or

785
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,950
not? By the way, she

786
00:45:37,950 --> 00:45:40,770
Adam Curry: has the same script?
Don't let him answer. Just Just

787
00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:42,390
keep buffalo going all the way
through.

788
00:45:44,490 --> 00:45:48,390
Unknown: I think fed constant
attacks on the department and

789
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:49,230
saying it's not

790
00:45:49,230 --> 00:45:51,600
as high. So let me let me give
you an exam. I don't know what

791
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,890
about January 6 People are here.
Some people came on January 6,

792
00:45:55,890 --> 00:46:00,000
there probably are some people
that came in January 6 Here, you

793
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,140
know, that had bad intent. But a
lot of good Americans from my

794
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:08,460
district came here because there
are sick and tired of this

795
00:46:08,460 --> 00:46:12,030
government not serving them.
They came with strollers and the

796
00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:15,330
kids come with strollers and the
kids. And there was chaotic

797
00:46:15,330 --> 00:46:17,670
situation because of this.

798
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:19,290
Adam Curry: This is good
writing. There was chaotic

799
00:46:19,290 --> 00:46:22,230
situation. This is perfect.
Because you've already

800
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:24,090
forgotten. She's Ukrainian.
You're already like she's

801
00:46:24,090 --> 00:46:25,500
Russian. I mean, it's good.

802
00:46:25,830 --> 00:46:28,800
Unknown: Not serving them. They
came with strollers and the

803
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,890
kids. And there was chaotic
situation because the proper

804
00:46:31,890 --> 00:46:35,040
security wasn't provided. That's
a question that was answered

805
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:40,140
really why? Why we debated for
45 minutes on the floor. And the

806
00:46:40,140 --> 00:46:44,010
debate after the people broken
into the Capitol. But these

807
00:46:44,010 --> 00:46:48,750
people came they were throwing
their smoke bombs into the crowd

808
00:46:48,750 --> 00:46:53,370
withdrawal is good. People were
showed up, you know, FBI agent

809
00:46:53,370 --> 00:46:59,460
to people's houses. Do you have
in my district in my town? FBI,

810
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,270
phone numbers all over the
district police school call that

811
00:47:03,450 --> 00:47:06,630
people are truly afraid. I just
want to make sure if you're not

812
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:10,350
there, where is it? You are? And
this is a big problem. And

813
00:47:10,350 --> 00:47:13,710
people are afraid of their own
government. And I'll show you

814
00:47:13,710 --> 00:47:18,000
some other things. We're talking
about justice system. I don't

815
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,970
question you probably not a bad
person. I don't know you. But

816
00:47:20,970 --> 00:47:24,090
Well, I'll tell you, you're in
charge of the department. And

817
00:47:24,090 --> 00:47:28,080
people right now feel you I look
at Durham report and that cold

818
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,110
on the face of violations of
clearance of millions of

819
00:47:31,110 --> 00:47:34,710
Americans, right. It's like KGB,
but then I read reports.

820
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,590
Adam Curry: You It's like KGB
does come on. She's good. She's

821
00:47:40,590 --> 00:47:45,750
doing her job. This is this. And
what she's doing here is exactly

822
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:49,620
what Magga country wants to
hear. But it's making people

823
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:52,680
more afraid of their government.
But she is highlighting this

824
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,940
Justice Department, which seems
to be quite a mess. Quite a

825
00:47:56,940 --> 00:48:02,280
mess. I like when she brings in
the KGB. But then the final one.

826
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:04,560
John C Dvorak: Well, I've got a
couple two.

827
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:08,400
Adam Curry: You want to play
some now? And then we can do?

828
00:48:08,430 --> 00:48:10,050
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's play.
I want to get where they're

829
00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:13,920
more. My favorite one is this
one. This is garland stone

830
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:20,280
walls. And it's because of his
usages I find fascinating.

831
00:48:22,380 --> 00:48:25,440
Unknown: Now in that video, that
was your answer to a question to

832
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,070
me two years ago, when I said
how many agents or assets of the

833
00:48:29,070 --> 00:48:32,250
government were present on
January 5 and January 6, and

834
00:48:32,250 --> 00:48:35,610
agitating in the crowd to go
into the Capitol? And how many

835
00:48:35,610 --> 00:48:38,610
went into the Capitol? Can you
answer that? Now? I don't know

836
00:48:38,610 --> 00:48:42,120
the answer to that question. It
was last time. You don't know

837
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,920
how many there were or there
were none.

838
00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:47,460
I don't know the answer to
either of those questions. If

839
00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:50,610
there were any. I don't know how
many. You know whether there are

840
00:48:50,610 --> 00:48:50,940
any.

841
00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:54,510
I think you've made it just
perjured yourself that you don't

842
00:48:54,510 --> 00:48:57,810
know that there were any. You
want to say that again. Did you

843
00:48:57,810 --> 00:48:58,410
don't know that

844
00:48:58,410 --> 00:48:59,850
there were no personal

845
00:48:59,850 --> 00:49:03,030
knowledge of this matter. I
think what I said the last time

846
00:49:03,060 --> 00:49:03,750
you've had two

847
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:07,740
years to find out. And today, by
the way that was in reference to

848
00:49:07,740 --> 00:49:10,980
Ray Epps and yesterday you
indicted him. Isn't that a

849
00:49:10,980 --> 00:49:14,490
wonderful coincidence on a
misdemeanor? Meanwhile, you're

850
00:49:14,490 --> 00:49:16,170
seeing the grandmas to prison.

851
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:22,890
Adam Curry: Grandmas in prison?
Yeah, yes.

852
00:49:24,330 --> 00:49:26,970
John C Dvorak: I have a sub clip
of a of a garland piece but I

853
00:49:26,970 --> 00:49:30,480
can't fish see where the garland
pieces. I have cash. Cash.

854
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:39,390
Patel, Kash Patel was on NTD and
he's one of the best spokes

855
00:49:39,570 --> 00:49:44,130
persons for I don't know who he
represents actually. He's a x.

856
00:49:44,370 --> 00:49:46,800
Adam Curry: William Marguerite
William Morris Agency, I think.

857
00:49:47,130 --> 00:49:47,460
Yeah,

858
00:49:47,490 --> 00:49:50,580
John C Dvorak: well, he's really
good. I've always enjoyed he is

859
00:49:52,170 --> 00:49:56,130
playing these clips. This is a
couple of his cash Patel and

860
00:49:56,550 --> 00:50:00,780
going over garlin and all, the
fact that he's Getting his tip

861
00:50:00,810 --> 00:50:04,890
in the ringer. And he has some
nice nice points to make

862
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,980
Unknown: before we get a clip.
Garland is firing back at

863
00:50:07,980 --> 00:50:11,220
congressional Republicans saying
in his opening statements today,

864
00:50:11,220 --> 00:50:14,460
quote, I am not the president's
lawyer adding I am not

865
00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:17,670
Congress's prosecutor. What's
your reaction to his statement

866
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:18,000
here?

867
00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:23,280
No, he's just President Biden's
bagman. I mean, he can say that

868
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,550
he's not Hunter Biden's lawyer
Joe Biden's lawyer and he can

869
00:50:26,550 --> 00:50:30,540
say he's not Congress's lawyer.
Those are fake news headlines

870
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:34,440
that CNN and the Washington Post
will grab and say look at this,

871
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:37,890
a political administer of
justice. But what you have to do

872
00:50:37,890 --> 00:50:42,540
is look at his testimony coming
out today, where he continues to

873
00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:45,540
lie and Stonewall Congress, he
has six congressional subpoenas

874
00:50:45,630 --> 00:50:48,690
for documents that he still has
not provided to Congress. He's

875
00:50:48,690 --> 00:50:51,450
in violation of those which is a
felony contempt of Congress.

876
00:50:51,930 --> 00:50:55,620
He's never going to prosecute
himself for that. And how about

877
00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:59,520
the disinformation he continues
to give Congress on whether or

878
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,380
not people interfered with the
investigation into Hunter Biden,

879
00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:07,950
and whether he participated in
it? He just refuses to answer

880
00:51:07,950 --> 00:51:11,490
these questions as if he if he,
the Attorney General himself is

881
00:51:11,490 --> 00:51:14,610
above the law. He's been charged
to administer

882
00:51:14,730 --> 00:51:17,490
Adam Curry: from an intellectual
standpoint. Yes, Kash Patel was

883
00:51:17,490 --> 00:51:21,720
good, but people to people in
America, it takes him so long to

884
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:25,470
catch on to stuff it takes years
and years and years for people

885
00:51:25,470 --> 00:51:29,280
to finally go, Hey, wait a
minute. Something's up here.

886
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,690
Something's not right. Like that
guy who saw the F 35. He's like,

887
00:51:33,810 --> 00:51:37,560
we deserve to know what's going
on. It takes a long time. And

888
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:38,310
Kashmir takes

889
00:51:38,310 --> 00:51:40,590
John C Dvorak: forever isn't
I've been doing the show for 15

890
00:51:40,590 --> 00:51:42,510
years. And we move maybe five
people.

891
00:51:43,890 --> 00:51:44,670
Adam Curry: That many

892
00:51:46,890 --> 00:51:49,110
John C Dvorak: years, Kash Patel
finishing up, I don't have the

893
00:51:49,140 --> 00:51:52,530
more clips he went on for a
while. And I will say that he

894
00:51:52,530 --> 00:51:56,670
really made a good point that if
the Congress cared, they would

895
00:51:56,700 --> 00:52:00,030
they would throw the book at
garland for not producing the

896
00:52:00,030 --> 00:52:02,940
documents or even answering
questions and they could they

897
00:52:02,940 --> 00:52:06,540
have their own ability to do
contempt of Congress, and

898
00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:10,410
actually jail people. And they
can also take their money away,

899
00:52:10,410 --> 00:52:13,680
which apparently they've done in
the past, which is to say you

900
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,740
can't you were taking so much
money away from your agency if

901
00:52:16,740 --> 00:52:20,100
you don't do this. And and
they're not doing any of it,

902
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,950
which says to me that this whole
thing is what you said at the

903
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:26,460
beginning. This is scripted on
both sides of bull crap

904
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,580
Unknown: and cash. On that note
when it comes to Hunter Biden

905
00:52:29,580 --> 00:52:33,600
garland is saying he doesn't
recollect if he spoke to the FBI

906
00:52:33,630 --> 00:52:34,710
during that time.

907
00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:37,470
Adam Curry: Have you had
personal contact with anyone at

908
00:52:37,470 --> 00:52:39,930
FBI Headquarters about the
Hunter Biden investigation?

909
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:47,460
Unknown: Know, I don't know. I
don't recollect the answer to

910
00:52:47,460 --> 00:52:48,390
that question. But

911
00:52:48,419 --> 00:52:52,439
is it possible that he wouldn't
be involved given? That's the

912
00:52:52,439 --> 00:52:54,299
president's son? Look,

913
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,030
look, I get that there's a lot
of things the Attorney General

914
00:52:57,030 --> 00:53:01,200
has going on and that come
across his desk. But when you

915
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,290
speak about the ongoing
investigation of the current

916
00:53:04,290 --> 00:53:07,200
president united states, you can
have Joe Biden's memory and

917
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,930
you're going to remember that
one. And so I don't believe for

918
00:53:09,930 --> 00:53:12,300
a second. He's not involved,
just like we found out that the

919
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:15,150
White House and Joe Biden lied
when they said they weren't

920
00:53:15,150 --> 00:53:17,460
involved in the Trump
prosecution, the White House

921
00:53:17,460 --> 00:53:20,280
Counsel's Office pursuant to the
direction of President Biden

922
00:53:20,580 --> 00:53:24,000
relinquished executive
privilege. So the DOJ could

923
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,660
prosecute Donald Trump, only one
man in America can relinquish

924
00:53:27,660 --> 00:53:31,200
that privilege, Joe Biden. And
so this theme of lying and

925
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,410
covering up whether you want to
call it unlawful activity or

926
00:53:34,410 --> 00:53:37,170
corruption, the fact that the
Attorney General the United

927
00:53:37,170 --> 00:53:41,040
States is totally weaponized to
me is the most dangerous thing

928
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,960
we can see in our system of
justice. Yeah,

929
00:53:42,990 --> 00:53:44,160
Adam Curry: it's too
intellectual.

930
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:47,910
John C Dvorak: No, I agree. But
But I want to play this sub clip

931
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:51,060
from that's where garland made
this very interesting little

932
00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:56,220
remark. Garland sub clip from
that quote that was in that

933
00:53:56,220 --> 00:53:58,230
little piece, listen to this.

934
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:00,750
Unknown: No real I don't know. I
don't recollect the answer to

935
00:54:00,750 --> 00:54:01,680
that question, but

936
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,910
Adam Curry: I forgot my lines. I
don't recollect the answer to

937
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:06,690
that question.

938
00:54:06,839 --> 00:54:10,859
John C Dvorak: So he's asked a
question. That's good. And he

939
00:54:10,859 --> 00:54:13,529
says, I don't recollect the
answer.

940
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,950
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, you
nailed it. That's exactly right.

941
00:54:16,979 --> 00:54:18,719
Unknown: No, really? I don't
know. I don't recollect the

942
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:19,739
answer to that question.

943
00:54:19,740 --> 00:54:23,130
Adam Curry: Because we had the
meeting. We had the table read.

944
00:54:24,060 --> 00:54:27,480
I don't recollect I'm sorry. You
got me. I don't have the answer

945
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,420
to that. I don't recollect the
answer to that question. Yeah.

946
00:54:31,230 --> 00:54:34,530
Now, they did bring out yet
another actor. I don't know.

947
00:54:34,650 --> 00:54:38,580
He's from Texas. Troy. nehls.
Have you heard of this guy? And

948
00:54:38,580 --> 00:54:43,380
eh, LS Troy nehls? Nope. How
many congressmen do we have?

949
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:46,410
John C Dvorak: Lots four, or
400.

950
00:54:47,009 --> 00:54:50,039
Adam Curry: And, and they gave
him the monologue. They said

951
00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:53,969
Troy. Troy. We like that little
little tuft of hair you got on

952
00:54:53,969 --> 00:54:58,829
top your head is bald but he's
got this cool like little swirl

953
00:54:58,859 --> 00:55:01,169
and when he looks down his pay
pretty light. Oh, it looks

954
00:55:01,170 --> 00:55:01,680
John C Dvorak: terrible.

955
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,960
Adam Curry: And I said, Troy, we
want you to explain the whole

956
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,250
Burisma Joe Biden and bribery,
quid pro quo. Here's your

957
00:55:11,250 --> 00:55:15,390
script. Whatever you do, don't
let garland say anything. Just

958
00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:18,120
buffalo all the way through.
You'll be great. Thank you,

959
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,520
Unknown: Mr. Chairman. Mr.
Garland? What is a confidential

960
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,360
human source?

961
00:55:22,290 --> 00:55:25,920
Well, that's an FBI term. I
don't know all that

962
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,940
technicality. But

963
00:55:27,330 --> 00:55:30,390
let me define it for you. It's
in your own policy here. An

964
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:33,180
individual who is believed to be
providing useful and credible

965
00:55:33,180 --> 00:55:36,780
information to the FBI from any
authorized information

966
00:55:36,780 --> 00:55:39,900
collection activity, and from
Who What the FBI expects or

967
00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:43,410
intends to obtain additional
useful and credible information

968
00:55:43,410 --> 00:55:44,220
in the future.

969
00:55:44,580 --> 00:55:47,910
Adam Curry: And by the way, pay
attention to Representative Nels

970
00:55:48,750 --> 00:55:54,120
voices, his intonation, he used
his voice very effectively, a

971
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,190
very, very skilled actor. All
right,

972
00:55:56,250 --> 00:55:59,640
Unknown: and whose identity
information or relationship with

973
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,910
the FBI warrants confidential
handling. So these guys are

974
00:56:02,910 --> 00:56:05,940
individuals you pay him $42
million a year. Did you know

975
00:56:05,940 --> 00:56:09,420
that that the the IG said you're
paying these sources 42 million

976
00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:10,140
a year? Did you know that

977
00:56:10,169 --> 00:56:12,719
I know, informants 42 million a
year. So

978
00:56:12,930 --> 00:56:15,390
do you believe that you're
credible? They're valuable. The

979
00:56:15,390 --> 00:56:17,460
FBI is using these guys. We're
paying them a lot of money.

980
00:56:17,460 --> 00:56:18,270
Would you agree with that?

981
00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:20,550
I agree. Some are more very
good. So there's

982
00:56:21,810 --> 00:56:23,610
a lot of money. You got a lot of
them out there.

983
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:28,590
Adam Curry: So good. I mean,
this is a skit that is so well.

984
00:56:28,590 --> 00:56:32,610
And kudos to garland by the way.
He totally got it. And all those

985
00:56:32,610 --> 00:56:35,700
lawyers behind them. They're all
kind of snickering there the the

986
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:37,590
studio audience it was
beautiful.

987
00:56:37,650 --> 00:56:39,720
Unknown: So let me paint the
picture for America, Hunter

988
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:43,980
Biden Jordans. Burisma in 2014.
Bernie paint the picture as my

989
00:56:44,130 --> 00:56:47,910
very, very corrupt Ukrainian
energy company. He has no

990
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:50,490
experience in oil and gas. He
admits it, sir. I don't have any

991
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,350
experience. I know why I'm
there. I

992
00:56:53,070 --> 00:56:54,120
Adam Curry: don't voices have a

993
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,130
John C Dvorak: dad doing it.
He's doing a show.

994
00:56:56,430 --> 00:56:58,590
Adam Curry: Yes. He's doing a
whole bit.

995
00:56:58,620 --> 00:57:01,440
Unknown: He has no experience in
oil and gas. He admits it, sir.

996
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:01,560
I

997
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,730
don't have any experience. I

998
00:57:02,730 --> 00:57:06,420
know why I'm there. I have a
dad. I have with me a document

999
00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:09,990
called the ft 1023. Have you
seen this? You're familiar with

1000
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:15,060
it? Used by the FBI, everybody
in America teams by the FBI. It

1001
00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:19,080
is a confidential human source
reporting document dated June

1002
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,190
2020. You're familiar with it.
In this document, the FBI is

1003
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:27,330
confidential human source says
Burisma. Now the corrupt company

1004
00:57:27,630 --> 00:57:30,600
needed to keep Hunter on the
board. So everything would be

1005
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,860
okay. And according to the human
source, they hired Hunter Biden

1006
00:57:34,860 --> 00:57:38,640
to quote protect us through his
dad for all kinds of problems.

1007
00:57:38,790 --> 00:57:43,920
Mr. Gardaland does that concern
you? Okay, it should I got

1008
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,200
limited time. Remember, your
sources are credible.

1009
00:57:46,830 --> 00:57:49,560
Adam Curry: He even waits he
even leaves the pause for

1010
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,550
garland to open his mouth to
Buffalo over him. It's great

1011
00:57:53,580 --> 00:57:55,380
clip coming clip coming

1012
00:57:56,339 --> 00:57:58,289
Unknown: at you and I got
limited time. Remember, your

1013
00:57:58,289 --> 00:58:01,019
sources are credible,
trustworthy, honest, and

1014
00:58:01,019 --> 00:58:04,739
valuable. Are you familiar with
Victor Shokin? The document that

1015
00:58:04,739 --> 00:58:08,939
it was Mr. Victor Shokin. So I
got three minutes left. You want

1016
00:58:08,939 --> 00:58:10,799
me to answer that? Yeah. Victor
Shokin. Who is?

1017
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:14,730
Adam Curry: I don't know to hit
doesn't know who Victor Shokin.

1018
00:58:14,730 --> 00:58:19,200
Is? This is the best part. I
don't know Victor Shokin. I've

1019
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,260
never heard this name. I don't
read newspapers. I never

1020
00:58:22,260 --> 00:58:26,580
listened to podcasts. I've never
heard. There was TV Shokin. TV

1021
00:58:26,580 --> 00:58:27,390
was TV,

1022
00:58:27,450 --> 00:58:28,380
Unknown: the document that

1023
00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:32,580
it was Mr. Victor Shokin. So I
got three minutes left. You want

1024
00:58:32,580 --> 00:58:35,730
me to answer that? Yeah. Victor
Shokin. Who is I don't know to

1025
00:58:36,660 --> 00:58:41,730
prosecute. Oh, folks, he's the
prosecutor. That was he oversees

1026
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,340
all the corruption in Ukraine.
We know there's corruption over

1027
00:58:44,340 --> 00:58:48,030
there. For the American people
watch and after a few months, a

1028
00:58:48,030 --> 00:58:50,850
few months after Hunter Biden
joined the Prisma board. Victor

1029
00:58:50,850 --> 00:58:54,720
Shokin, was named Prosecutor
General for Ukraine to target

1030
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,560
corruption, and one of his
investigations was into Burisma.

1031
00:58:59,010 --> 00:59:02,730
In this ft 1023 document, the
human source clarified that

1032
00:59:02,730 --> 00:59:06,690
Burisma CEO, the man in charge
of prisoner said he has many

1033
00:59:06,690 --> 00:59:10,560
text messages and recordings
that show he was coerced to make

1034
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,740
such payment to ensure Victor
Shokin was fired. Matter of

1035
00:59:13,740 --> 00:59:18,210
fact, there were 17 of them. Mr.
Garland, it's clear Joe Biden

1036
00:59:18,210 --> 00:59:22,140
wanted Shokin fired so he would
stop looking into Burisma where

1037
00:59:22,140 --> 00:59:26,610
Hunter was on the board. Would
you agree? All right, let's let

1038
00:59:26,610 --> 00:59:29,490
the American people decide play
the clip, play the clip and it

1039
00:59:29,490 --> 00:59:29,940
goes to

1040
00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:31,680
our clip. Remember going over

1041
00:59:31,919 --> 00:59:35,039
Adam Curry: he goes to the CFR
clip which you might have why

1042
00:59:35,309 --> 00:59:37,919
this is we might as well play it
because he's making his point

1043
00:59:37,919 --> 00:59:39,569
and it's beautifully done seen

1044
00:59:39,570 --> 00:59:43,200
Unknown: our team or others to
convince you know that we should

1045
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,190
be providing for loan
guarantees. And I went over, I

1046
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:52,890
guess 1213 Time to keep and and
I was going supposed to announce

1047
00:59:52,890 --> 00:59:56,760
that there was another billion
dollar loan guarantee. And I had

1048
00:59:56,790 --> 01:00:02,460
gotten a commitment from
Poroshenko and from to take

1049
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:06,180
action against the prosecutor,
and they did. So they said the

1050
01:00:06,180 --> 01:00:08,820
head of the walkouts press kind
of said nice and I'm not gonna

1051
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,870
we're not gonna give you the
billion dollars. They said you

1052
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:14,940
have no authority. You're not
the president. The president

1053
01:00:14,940 --> 01:00:18,780
said, I said call him. I said,
I'm telling you not getting the

1054
01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:21,600
billion dollars. I said, you're
not getting the billion I'm

1055
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,150
gonna be leaving here. I think
it was, what six hours I look. I

1056
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:27,360
said, well, even six hours. If
the prosecutor is not fired,

1057
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,950
you're not getting the money.
Oh, son of a bitch. Got fired.

1058
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:33,840
They put in place someone.

1059
01:00:35,250 --> 01:00:39,030
Adam Curry: So clearly, I just
want to point out, someone in

1060
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:42,210
the writers room is listening to
no agenda because you called for

1061
01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:44,580
this very clip not but two shows
ago.

1062
01:00:46,890 --> 01:00:49,380
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's the
clip. This is the clip. And so

1063
01:00:49,380 --> 01:00:54,510
there's clips been around for
like years. Years and years and

1064
01:00:54,780 --> 01:00:59,610
the right wing is always pushing
this clip. And for some reason,

1065
01:00:59,610 --> 01:01:02,670
the mainstream media has ignored
it to this day, they still

1066
01:01:02,670 --> 01:01:03,750
ignore it. It's a minute

1067
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:05,220
Adam Curry: left here. Mr.
Attorney

1068
01:01:05,220 --> 01:01:08,070
Unknown: General, what you just
saw there was Joe Biden, in his

1069
01:01:08,070 --> 01:01:11,400
arrogance and role as the vice
president in this country saying

1070
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,730
if you don't fire Shokan, the
United States isn't given the $1

1071
01:01:14,730 --> 01:01:17,820
billion loan. Why would Joe
Biden say that as the Vice

1072
01:01:17,820 --> 01:01:20,730
Premier, why would he say such a
thing? Was it policy? Was it our

1073
01:01:20,730 --> 01:01:25,680
policy at the time? Yes or No?
It wasn't. I have documents

1074
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,950
here. Interagency Policy
Committee data. Quantum

1075
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:33,780
Information is The gentleman's
time on my time pipe down. So

1076
01:01:33,780 --> 01:01:39,420
Shokin had made some he's made
significant reforms. Shokin did.

1077
01:01:39,540 --> 01:01:41,220
Matter of fact, John Kerry says

1078
01:01:41,370 --> 01:01:44,280
Adam Curry: he was about John
Kerry, another guy whose kid was

1079
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,440
involved in corruption in
Ukraine had made

1080
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,940
Unknown: the last Texas he's
made significant reforms. Shokin

1081
01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:55,380
did. Matter of fact, John Kerry
says he was impressive. And you

1082
01:01:55,380 --> 01:01:58,140
know, within a few months after
shocking was fired, they appoint

1083
01:01:58,140 --> 01:02:00,870
a prosecutor that said, we're
not going to look in the Burisma

1084
01:02:00,870 --> 01:02:03,660
anymore, cancel it and forget
it. We're not looking into

1085
01:02:03,660 --> 01:02:07,290
Prisma boom, here comes the
million dollars. Bill Biden

1086
01:02:07,290 --> 01:02:09,570
threatened to Ukrainian
president the Prime Minister,

1087
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:12,630
everybody can see it the fire
Shokan or the United States

1088
01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:15,840
won't give the billion dollars.
If that is not quid pro quo,

1089
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,290
sir. What is I will tell you
what it is in America agrees

1090
01:02:19,290 --> 01:02:22,860
with me. It's bribery, and it's
impeachable. Are you going to do

1091
01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:26,910
something about it? I bet you're
not. And that's why you, sir.

1092
01:02:27,060 --> 01:02:29,970
Also need to be impeached. I
yield back.

1093
01:02:31,620 --> 01:02:35,520
John C Dvorak: Yes, that was a
Oscar goes to whirlwind

1094
01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:41,580
performance. This new guy, he's
a new guy. Well, he's he's

1095
01:02:41,580 --> 01:02:44,640
trying to bring you know, Texas
has always got one guy.

1096
01:02:44,670 --> 01:02:47,790
Adam Curry: This is the guy.
Yeah, this is the guy, I need to

1097
01:02:47,790 --> 01:02:50,850
meet him. Hey, we got some more
ideas for

1098
01:02:50,850 --> 01:02:52,950
John C Dvorak: you, you will get
a word in edgewise.

1099
01:02:54,570 --> 01:02:57,990
Adam Curry: Now, all of this
said, there is some danger on

1100
01:02:57,990 --> 01:03:04,530
the horizon to a degree for
alternative media, you know,

1101
01:03:04,530 --> 01:03:09,420
like podcasts, although I think
we're pretty safe. I figured out

1102
01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:12,630
the Russell Brand thing it took
me it was bugging me. You know,

1103
01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:18,540
good. I was like, why, after
16 1516 years, you know, why is

1104
01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:21,360
this happening? Why did they pop
this, you know, this something

1105
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:26,610
is going on? And the the and
this is mainly a British story,

1106
01:03:26,610 --> 01:03:29,910
although it concerns the United
States as well, because Russell

1107
01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:35,130
Brand is, is very popular. And
people have come to like popular

1108
01:03:35,130 --> 01:03:39,570
as a podcaster. Yes, people have
come to like him. Now, the

1109
01:03:39,570 --> 01:03:44,370
backdrop of this is that the
online safety bill is it was

1110
01:03:44,370 --> 01:03:49,440
going to be law in the UK, which
allows the British government to

1111
01:03:50,220 --> 01:03:55,440
essentially just spy on
everybody all the time. And, and

1112
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,500
you know, it's the it's over
free speech is done in Britain.

1113
01:03:59,820 --> 01:04:05,820
So that, I believe what is
happening here? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

1114
01:04:05,850 --> 01:04:08,640
The whole thing. Just the naming
of the bill is fantastic. I

1115
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,340
know. They're always named,
like, what is happening is there

1116
01:04:11,340 --> 01:04:15,240
is an awareness now that there
is that they're losing out,

1117
01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:18,450
they're losing out to these
other platforms. When I say

1118
01:04:18,450 --> 01:04:22,830
losing out, I mean, losing apps,
they mainstream media is losing

1119
01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:28,800
out to other platforms. So
they're losing advertising

1120
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,130
revenue. And when I see when I
say mainstream, it is YouTube

1121
01:04:32,130 --> 01:04:36,990
specifically. Just as a quick
aside, Google is in the middle

1122
01:04:36,990 --> 01:04:42,210
of a antitrust lawsuit and all
kinds of discovery is coming up.

1123
01:04:42,660 --> 01:04:46,500
And things like that additional
or who was who runs the ad

1124
01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:49,620
business, said Monday he
believes most advertised removed

1125
01:04:49,620 --> 01:04:53,520
to rivals like meta, or bite
dances tick tock if Google tried

1126
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,240
to increase prices by 15% While
they were rigging the ad

1127
01:04:57,270 --> 01:05:00,870
auctions to raise them by five
or 10%. It's Here's how you do

1128
01:05:00,870 --> 01:05:03,120
it. And they and they said, you
know, hey, you know, we have

1129
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,180
real competition. But they
didn't mention the true

1130
01:05:06,180 --> 01:05:10,050
competition, which also involves
the, you know, like the

1131
01:05:10,050 --> 01:05:14,790
backdoors, the censorship, the
do what we say, which involves

1132
01:05:14,790 --> 01:05:19,320
politics. And the main one that
they're going after right now is

1133
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,220
rumble. And they're doing it in
multiple ways. And rumble,

1134
01:05:23,250 --> 01:05:27,090
though, we have to understand
that when used they,

1135
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,600
John C Dvorak: they use they
going after politicians,

1136
01:05:30,690 --> 01:05:33,150
Adam Curry: the politicians are
going after rumble. And the

1137
01:05:33,150 --> 01:05:36,450
politicians and the news media
is going after rumble. That's

1138
01:05:36,450 --> 01:05:40,590
they that's they and when I say
they, it is the politicians and

1139
01:05:40,590 --> 01:05:46,080
the news media lackeys. So we
have the correspondents from the

1140
01:05:46,620 --> 01:05:50,490
Culture, Media and Sport
committee, writing to the CEO of

1141
01:05:50,490 --> 01:05:54,210
rumble, saying I am writing
concerning the serious

1142
01:05:54,210 --> 01:05:57,330
allegations regarding Russell
Brand in the context of his

1143
01:05:57,330 --> 01:06:01,020
being a content provider on
rumble with more than 1.4

1144
01:06:01,020 --> 01:06:04,140
million followers. The culture
Media and Sport committee is

1145
01:06:04,140 --> 01:06:06,780
raising questions with the
broadcasters and production

1146
01:06:06,780 --> 01:06:09,480
companies who previously
employed Mr. Brand to examine

1147
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,180
both the culture of the industry
in the past and whether that

1148
01:06:12,180 --> 01:06:15,180
that culture still prevails
today. However, we are also

1149
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:17,940
looking at his use of social
media, including on rumble,

1150
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:21,690
where he issued his pre emptive
response to the accusations made

1151
01:06:21,690 --> 01:06:25,200
against him by the Sunday Times
and channel fours dispatches,

1152
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,840
and they're on and on and on. So
that would you, we would be

1153
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,270
grateful if you would confirm
whether Mr. Brand is able to

1154
01:06:30,270 --> 01:06:34,230
monetize his content, including
his videos relating to the

1155
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:39,060
serious accusations against him.
So they are trying to be the CEO

1156
01:06:39,060 --> 01:06:41,760
of rumble wrote back a letter,
I'm appalled, we'll never do

1157
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,390
that. But the gauntlet has been
thrown down. If you don't remove

1158
01:06:45,390 --> 01:06:47,760
brand, we're going to de
monetize you. We're going to go

1159
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,630
after your advertisers. And it
all came into view for me

1160
01:06:51,810 --> 01:06:57,450
listening to the news agents
podcast, I've talked about this

1161
01:06:57,450 --> 01:07:01,710
before the news agents is a
very, very successful podcast.

1162
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,700
It's for top journalists from
the BBC, you know, the ones who

1163
01:07:05,700 --> 01:07:08,610
have interviewed statesman and
they kind of get together like

1164
01:07:08,610 --> 01:07:12,570
they're like they're in the news
room discussing stuff, right.

1165
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,750
And they have a USA version now
as well. And it's owned by

1166
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:19,920
global property. So it's it is a
mainstream media podcast. They

1167
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:25,440
are all in on this, because they
do their Russell Brand. segment.

1168
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,470
This is right after this all
breaks. Do they talk about rape

1169
01:07:28,470 --> 01:07:34,080
allegations? No, no, no, that's
not interesting. This is a

1170
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,420
global player, original podcast.

1171
01:07:36,450 --> 01:07:38,070
Unknown: Hello there your
awakening wonders. Now this

1172
01:07:38,070 --> 01:07:41,070
isn't the usual type of video we
make on this channel where we

1173
01:07:41,070 --> 01:07:44,550
critique, attack and undermine
the news in all its corruption

1174
01:07:44,550 --> 01:07:46,770
because in this story, I am the
news.

1175
01:07:46,919 --> 01:07:51,029
That was Russell Brand on Friday
night on YouTube. And I think

1176
01:07:51,029 --> 01:07:56,339
it's important to remind our
listeners that for many people,

1177
01:07:56,459 --> 01:08:01,229
the first they ever heard about
this investigation about the

1178
01:08:01,229 --> 01:08:08,159
sexual assault allegations was
his pre denial on a platform.

1179
01:08:08,369 --> 01:08:11,729
That wasn't the Sunday Times
that wasn't Channel Four. That

1180
01:08:11,729 --> 01:08:16,889
wasn't the BBC. It was him
speaking directly to his

1181
01:08:16,889 --> 01:08:20,729
followers, his six and a half
million followers. He says

1182
01:08:20,730 --> 01:08:25,950
that I am the news. That is true
in more ways than one. Today. He

1183
01:08:25,950 --> 01:08:30,450
has been demonetized by YouTube
content and old shows of his

1184
01:08:30,450 --> 01:08:34,470
have been taken down by the BBC
by Channel Four. On today's

1185
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:37,560
show. We're going to ask the
question about whether any of

1186
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:41,700
that for brand for his reach to
the millions of people who

1187
01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:45,240
follow Him, online platforms,
whether any of that really

1188
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,720
matters. Can you really cancel
Russell Brand?

1189
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,310
Welcome to the news agents.

1190
01:08:50,670 --> 01:08:54,300
Adam Curry: So nuts to who cares
about rape? No, no, no, we

1191
01:08:54,300 --> 01:08:56,040
John C Dvorak: don't care about
that. I don't think he's been

1192
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,150
charged either.

1193
01:08:57,510 --> 01:09:00,360
Adam Curry: No, as far as I
know, he hasn't. But it's not

1194
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:05,820
about rape. No, no, it's about
his opinion, and monetizing his

1195
01:09:05,820 --> 01:09:06,330
opinion.

1196
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:08,069
Unknown: I mean, when you've got
a situation when you know

1197
01:09:08,069 --> 01:09:10,589
Russell Brand, I mean just to
take some of his digital

1198
01:09:10,619 --> 01:09:15,119
followings. He's got 4 million
on Instagram 2.2 million on tick

1199
01:09:15,119 --> 01:09:19,229
tock six and a half million on
YouTube. And you know, when you

1200
01:09:19,229 --> 01:09:21,719
look at some of the things that
some of his followers have been

1201
01:09:21,719 --> 01:09:25,019
saying over the weekend, in
response to him, and you know,

1202
01:09:25,019 --> 01:09:28,169
the internet isn't necessarily
real life, but it's always to

1203
01:09:28,169 --> 01:09:31,349
some extent, a reflection of a
bit of real life and it is also

1204
01:09:31,379 --> 01:09:35,729
financial, financially lucrative
and real life. You know, some of

1205
01:09:35,729 --> 01:09:38,549
the things were with you,
Russell, I've been wondering how

1206
01:09:38,549 --> 01:09:42,599
long it would be until they they
tried to pull this card with

1207
01:09:42,599 --> 01:09:45,749
lock crying emoji. I'm with you
all the way Russell, they did it

1208
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:48,809
to Assange. They tried it with
Bernie Sanders. They did it to

1209
01:09:48,809 --> 01:09:51,749
Corbin they'll try and find
anyone they find a threat. And

1210
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:53,909
as we were talking about
yesterday, this is where there

1211
01:09:53,909 --> 01:09:56,759
is the intersection between
media and this new media

1212
01:09:56,759 --> 01:10:00,059
ecosystem and politics and the
fact that our politics on both A

1213
01:10:00,059 --> 01:10:03,959
side of the Atlantic has taken
this conspiratorial turn, where

1214
01:10:03,989 --> 01:10:06,569
players political players try
and pretend they're a kind of

1215
01:10:06,569 --> 01:10:08,909
shadowy figures everywhere
trying to undermine them. That

1216
01:10:08,909 --> 01:10:12,959
is exactly the same that Russell
Brand is tapping into, to try

1217
01:10:12,989 --> 01:10:15,719
and exploit this moment and to
try and survive this moment.

1218
01:10:15,780 --> 01:10:18,570
Adam Curry: This is the crux as
far as I'm concerned, they

1219
01:10:18,570 --> 01:10:24,210
realize that a lot of people
right and left are going to

1220
01:10:24,210 --> 01:10:27,810
alternative platforms, the new
media platforms, as they say,

1221
01:10:27,810 --> 01:10:31,050
this other ecosystem, and
they're getting a voice, they're

1222
01:10:31,050 --> 01:10:34,680
getting traction, and even D
monetizing on the with our

1223
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,890
friendly guys, because it's easy
to D monetize someone on YouTube

1224
01:10:37,890 --> 01:10:40,950
and meta, which they won't talk
about No, no tick tock, that

1225
01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:43,800
seems to be a problem. But this
rumble thing is alternative

1226
01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:44,730
ecosystem.

1227
01:10:44,820 --> 01:10:47,370
Unknown: I think there are
places that are a few like the

1228
01:10:47,370 --> 01:10:52,860
safety net, more than that the
new ecosystem to this whole idea

1229
01:10:52,860 --> 01:10:57,120
of cancellations. So I was told
yesterday that actually one of

1230
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:02,400
the platforms in which Russell
Brand is heavily monetizing is

1231
01:11:02,430 --> 01:11:05,640
rumble. And it was a site that I
wasn't that familiar with never

1232
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:05,970
heard

1233
01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:07,800
Adam Curry: of it. I'm a
journalist, why would I ever

1234
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,200
look at rumble I look at YouTube
and x,

1235
01:11:10,230 --> 01:11:13,680
Unknown: it kind of tends to
serve the right it tends to be

1236
01:11:14,190 --> 01:11:20,430
like Alex Jones, Steve Bannon,
and this sort of Info Wars kind

1237
01:11:20,430 --> 01:11:24,540
of people. And Aha, I was told
that Russell Brand is actually

1238
01:11:24,540 --> 01:11:28,290
getting millions from what he
does there, whether it's

1239
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,270
monetized or whether they're
actually just paying for him,

1240
01:11:30,510 --> 01:11:35,550
because they find people who
have exactly been shut out, if

1241
01:11:35,550 --> 01:11:39,330
you like, of the mainstream
media, or shut out of the BBC or

1242
01:11:39,330 --> 01:11:41,190
channel four, or places that no
longer want to work with him and

1243
01:11:41,190 --> 01:11:45,360
say, oh, right, let us be your
home. And we will provide the

1244
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,380
following for people who don't
really want to be part of that

1245
01:11:49,380 --> 01:11:51,450
mainstream media landscape
anyway,

1246
01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:54,180
Adam Curry: which is not that
big a problem other than and

1247
01:11:54,180 --> 01:11:57,720
this is the this is the whole
theme of same from the from the

1248
01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:01,920
Member of Parliament. Well, you
can't he's monetizing he's, it's

1249
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,190
okay to be an idiot somewhere on
the internet, but you're

1250
01:12:05,190 --> 01:12:10,200
monetizing. This will not stand,
Rumble has to go down.

1251
01:12:10,620 --> 01:12:13,080
Unknown: And so actually, half
the stuff is going on that a lot

1252
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,350
of people won't see they won't
recognize they'll totally

1253
01:12:16,350 --> 01:12:18,990
forgotten about him. Right. I
said, you know, the last few

1254
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,750
nights I went on rumble last
night. Oh, no, it was really

1255
01:12:21,750 --> 01:12:22,440
interesting.

1256
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,500
Adam Curry: I went on rumble
never never caught a rumble

1257
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:27,420
video was really interesting,
because

1258
01:12:27,660 --> 01:12:29,850
Unknown: I didn't know that he'd
done the first interview with

1259
01:12:29,850 --> 01:12:34,590
Tucker Carlson, the fired Fox
news presenter, he's interviewed

1260
01:12:34,590 --> 01:12:39,690
Ron DeSantis. He's, you never
know that Russell Brand was so

1261
01:12:39,690 --> 01:12:42,540
tied in to what we think of as
the sort of, I don't know, the

1262
01:12:42,540 --> 01:12:47,580
Magga voice or the American
voice. And this suggests that,

1263
01:12:47,580 --> 01:12:50,820
you know, we will happily admit,
we are probably missing parts of

1264
01:12:50,820 --> 01:12:53,640
these conversations where
Russell Brand is flourishing,

1265
01:12:53,700 --> 01:12:56,970
and will continue to flourish.
Whether or not the BBC removes

1266
01:12:56,970 --> 01:12:58,020
an episode of Qi.

1267
01:12:58,110 --> 01:13:00,540
Exactly. And that's what is I
think that's what's so

1268
01:13:00,540 --> 01:13:03,750
fascinating about this, which is
that yeah, I mean, I was trying

1269
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:06,570
to wrap my brain this morning, I
had some vague sense, I think

1270
01:13:06,570 --> 01:13:09,660
that he had gone down this kind
of anti Vax kind of route and

1271
01:13:09,660 --> 01:13:13,980
had become kind of more
eccentric, more kooky. But I had

1272
01:13:13,980 --> 01:13:17,400
no idea really, that he was this
is someone I like to think,

1273
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,130
right? That pretty plugged into
the media, pretty close observer

1274
01:13:20,130 --> 01:13:22,650
of the media, but not that type
of media. And this is the kind

1275
01:13:22,650 --> 01:13:24,840
of challenge to us in a way,
right, is that we can all make

1276
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,750
ourselves feel better by, you
know, thinking, Oh, right. He's

1277
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:29,940
been dropped by this, that and
the other. And maybe it's not

1278
01:13:29,940 --> 01:13:32,340
applicable to loads of people.
But for someone like brand, it

1279
01:13:32,340 --> 01:13:35,100
doesn't matter. And in fact, not
only does it not matter,

1280
01:13:35,190 --> 01:13:36,780
arguably, it's helping it.

1281
01:13:37,410 --> 01:13:41,520
Adam Curry: They are beside
themselves. They can't stand it.

1282
01:13:41,700 --> 01:13:46,590
They can't do it. The whole idea
that there's traction and money

1283
01:13:46,590 --> 01:13:50,910
somewhere else that they don't
control. And that's completely

1284
01:13:50,940 --> 01:13:54,810
in line with what the Washington
Post did to Dave Portnoy.

1285
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:58,320
They're going after advertisers,
which is why I've always said

1286
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:02,070
you can't monetize the network,
Rumble will be in trouble. All

1287
01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:06,750
these centralized systems, but
oh is rumble Oh, they when

1288
01:14:06,750 --> 01:14:10,650
rumble loses their advertisers.
They will kick Russell Brand

1289
01:14:10,650 --> 01:14:12,660
off, or they will fold this

1290
01:14:12,660 --> 01:14:14,820
John C Dvorak: another keep in
mind he just won't be he won't

1291
01:14:14,820 --> 01:14:15,270
be paid.

1292
01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:18,330
Adam Curry: Yeah, but but the ad
what advertiser wants to be a

1293
01:14:18,330 --> 01:14:22,440
part of members of parliament
writing letters. Advertisers are

1294
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:24,660
skittish. I mean, okay, totally

1295
01:14:24,660 --> 01:14:28,380
John C Dvorak: skittish, and
they're very sheepish Pearl,

1296
01:14:28,650 --> 01:14:31,680
clutching Gander bringing the
worst.

1297
01:14:31,710 --> 01:14:34,290
Adam Curry: I mean, you have one
Michael in Dell and in his

1298
01:14:34,290 --> 01:14:38,100
company, they really, I will say
decimated in the sense of the

1299
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:42,510
word as in baby 10 20%. They
have they have hurt his

1300
01:14:42,510 --> 01:14:47,490
business. And he was like the go
to guy Squarespace is not going

1301
01:14:47,490 --> 01:14:54,090
to step up for anybody know any
Mattress Company is not going to

1302
01:14:54,090 --> 01:14:56,940
step up for anybody thinking
okay, it's a little too hot

1303
01:14:56,940 --> 01:14:59,970
here. I've got politicians
yelling at me and the wall

1304
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,560
Washington Post. This is true. I
mean, this is when you hear this

1305
01:15:04,590 --> 01:15:07,260
Have you seen what happened that
you know Dave Portnoy from bars?

1306
01:15:07,260 --> 01:15:07,770
I listened

1307
01:15:07,770 --> 01:15:10,500
John C Dvorak: to Portnoy
talking to the reporter Yes.

1308
01:15:12,150 --> 01:15:17,310
condemning her this woman Heil.
And she was just like weenie of

1309
01:15:17,310 --> 01:15:21,450
the decade going on about well,
how you deal well, and important

1310
01:15:21,450 --> 01:15:25,710
important noise a target because
he's, he's a huge moneymaker.

1311
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,620
Adam Curry: But the problem is,
and I have a little bit of that

1312
01:15:28,620 --> 01:15:33,090
conversation because what the
Washington Post reporter did,

1313
01:15:33,090 --> 01:15:36,690
because he's doing something
called the pizza fest, whatever.

1314
01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:40,110
So and the pizza fests are
sponsored by a number of

1315
01:15:40,170 --> 01:15:46,620
sponsors, and the Washington
Post to mess with him, writes

1316
01:15:47,010 --> 01:15:51,150
emails, and this is this is
tabloid journalism. I've been

1317
01:15:51,150 --> 01:15:54,930
through this exact thing. They
don't interview Portnoy, they go

1318
01:15:54,930 --> 01:15:58,620
to his sponsors and say, Well,
how do you feel about sponsoring

1319
01:15:58,620 --> 01:16:03,150
an event with a known
misogynist? What what is

1320
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,710
John C Dvorak: the word Miss
Miss genic? Which is which is

1321
01:16:07,710 --> 01:16:10,650
slightly different than a
misogynist. What is Miss genic?

1322
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:15,390
Because he means you have a
general distrust of women. Oh,

1323
01:16:15,390 --> 01:16:19,320
is there an actual I've not a
hatred, but an actual word Miss

1324
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,480
Jana hatred but a mistrust.

1325
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,640
Adam Curry: Because I was
looking because I thought he was

1326
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,290
just mispronouncing the word.
No,

1327
01:16:25,290 --> 01:16:27,060
John C Dvorak: no, that's a real
word.

1328
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:33,810
Adam Curry: mesogenic. Ca? Me,
Miss genic. Okay. Well just

1329
01:16:33,810 --> 01:16:36,180
listen to a little bit because
he calls her out on it. She

1330
01:16:36,180 --> 01:16:41,400
lies. And this is very typical,
very typical of how today's

1331
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:46,950
journalism is run, which is
complete gutter. tabloid

1332
01:16:46,950 --> 01:16:48,990
journalism. This is how they do
it.

1333
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:52,740
Unknown: This is Emily. Hey,
Emily. This is Dave Portnoy

1334
01:16:52,740 --> 01:16:57,210
calling. I'm recording you right
now. But I've noticed a bunch of

1335
01:16:57,210 --> 01:17:00,510
people your it seems like you're
sending. We have this pizza fest

1336
01:17:00,510 --> 01:17:03,660
happening on Saturday, and
you're reaching out to our

1337
01:17:03,660 --> 01:17:07,710
advertisers. And you're
basically sending an email that

1338
01:17:07,710 --> 01:17:12,750
says to the effect, Dave's
mesogenic racist. Do you want to

1339
01:17:12,750 --> 01:17:17,100
defend yourselves advertising at
this event? Right. I'm sorry.

1340
01:17:17,130 --> 01:17:19,680
What's your name? Dave. I'm
sorry. Who are you? I'm the guy

1341
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,540
you're writing the article about
Dave Portnoy.

1342
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,300
Oh, you're Dave Portnoy. Oh,
hey, how are you? Good. Hey,

1343
01:17:24,900 --> 01:17:28,020
good. No, I'm not. I'm not. I
haven't said anything like that.

1344
01:17:28,050 --> 01:17:28,620
I'm well,

1345
01:17:28,620 --> 01:17:34,050
I can read. If you want. If you
want. I can read what you

1346
01:17:34,050 --> 01:17:35,160
actually sent. I have

1347
01:17:35,190 --> 01:17:38,130
Adam Curry: you actually find
Miss genic in the dictionary? I

1348
01:17:38,130 --> 01:17:39,180
can't find it.

1349
01:17:39,420 --> 01:17:43,530
John C Dvorak: I found it. I'll
get you to spell funny. Okay.

1350
01:17:43,530 --> 01:17:46,800
But by the way, he right. There
is an important point because he

1351
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,010
harps on this. She says no, I
didn't write anything like that

1352
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:54,030
lie. A lie. A lie? Because then
he reads from hurts. Oh, yeah.

1353
01:17:54,030 --> 01:17:57,900
Yeah. That was just one Listen,
one knows

1354
01:17:57,930 --> 01:18:00,600
Adam Curry: her reasoning is
even better. She's great.

1355
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:01,470
Anything like that?

1356
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:06,810
Unknown: Um, well, I can read.
If you want. If you want, I can

1357
01:18:06,810 --> 01:18:08,970
read what you actually sent. I
have it.

1358
01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:12,510
Yeah. Because I sent a bunch of
notes. So I want to make sure I

1359
01:18:12,510 --> 01:18:12,720
know

1360
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,460
Adam Curry: what's in a bunch of
notes. Because you know, I'm a

1361
01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:17,190
journalist from the WaPo. I'm
above everything and everybody.

1362
01:18:17,730 --> 01:18:21,210
Unknown: Okay, we are planning
to write about the festival and

1363
01:18:21,210 --> 01:18:24,210
how and how some of the sponsors
and participants have drawn

1364
01:18:24,210 --> 01:18:27,090
criticism by seemingly to
associate themselves with Dave

1365
01:18:27,090 --> 01:18:30,840
Portnoy, who has a history of
mesogenic comments and other

1366
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,870
problematic behavior. I want to
make sure that blank had a

1367
01:18:33,870 --> 01:18:36,660
chance to respond to this as a
company is the most prominent in

1368
01:18:36,660 --> 01:18:38,160
their partners of his festival.

1369
01:18:38,580 --> 01:18:41,550
Oh, that's the one I said, which
was definitely the most pointed

1370
01:18:41,550 --> 01:18:44,610
of them, because I really did
want them to respond. And I was

1371
01:18:44,610 --> 01:18:46,440
hoping to get something from
them do.

1372
01:18:48,420 --> 01:18:51,420
Adam Curry: That's what that's
what tabloid journalists. Do. I

1373
01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:54,810
want to I want to get them all
riled up. Yeah, I wanted to

1374
01:18:54,810 --> 01:18:57,810
respond. It was that's why it
was pointed. Okay. Because

1375
01:18:57,990 --> 01:19:00,540
Unknown: I really did want them
to respond. And I was hoping to

1376
01:19:00,540 --> 01:19:01,740
get something from them.

1377
01:19:01,740 --> 01:19:05,670
Do you think that's fair? Like,
I totally disagree with the

1378
01:19:05,670 --> 01:19:08,850
assertions of what you said that
mesogenic and all that stuff. So

1379
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,660
like, it kind of backs people
into a corner. So I'm happy go

1380
01:19:12,660 --> 01:19:16,770
over anything. I mean, you have
that is pretty pointed. You said

1381
01:19:16,770 --> 01:19:19,470
you didn't do it, then I have
the exact evidence of you doing

1382
01:19:19,470 --> 01:19:20,190
it. So

1383
01:19:20,220 --> 01:19:23,130
I didn't say I didn't do that. I
said I did. That was the one

1384
01:19:23,130 --> 01:19:23,790
that was the most

1385
01:19:27,810 --> 01:19:29,850
John C Dvorak: heard her say she
didn't do it. Yeah. What

1386
01:19:29,850 --> 01:19:32,400
Unknown: before I before I
provided proof, you said you

1387
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,530
didn't really remember doing
that. And then I read it to you

1388
01:19:34,530 --> 01:19:37,830
and you're like, oh, yeah, I did
that one time. So you did do it.

1389
01:19:38,460 --> 01:19:41,250
I'm happy to talk about the
comments because to me, it's

1390
01:19:41,250 --> 01:19:43,170
kind of like torturous
interference. Like we're doing

1391
01:19:43,170 --> 01:19:46,470
an event. Everyone's happy about
the event. You know, I've raised

1392
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:49,290
50 million for small business.
I've helped pizzas none of that.

1393
01:19:49,290 --> 01:19:52,710
It's Dave's mesogenic and
problematic and I'm happy to

1394
01:19:52,710 --> 01:19:56,370
talk about it because to me,
nobody would like if someone's

1395
01:19:56,370 --> 01:19:59,760
going around sending that email
to their sponsors. And again,

1396
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,860
you're in Like questioning you,
you're it's almost like a

1397
01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:03,840
statement of fact, this is what
I am.

1398
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,350
Yeah. So I do want to talk to
you about this

1399
01:20:07,770 --> 01:20:09,000
one, we're gonna reach out.

1400
01:20:09,570 --> 01:20:11,700
We are planning on doing it
tomorrow morning.

1401
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,520
Adam Curry: And what they will
do tomorrow morning is. So a

1402
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,440
whole, we've talked a whole
bunch of sponsors, they say

1403
01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:19,770
your, your mesogenic, whatever
that means. We need you to

1404
01:20:19,770 --> 01:20:23,220
respond, we have a 1pm deadline.
That's how it works.

1405
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,430
Unknown: So you're gonna write
the article, and then give me

1406
01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:29,280
like, I've had that a bunch
people write a full article, and

1407
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,590
then give me the points after
now we're

1408
01:20:31,590 --> 01:20:34,140
doing a bunch of reporting, and
we wanted to make sure that when

1409
01:20:34,140 --> 01:20:37,440
we finally did talk to you, we
could really kind of present

1410
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:41,010
what you know, or talk about
things more fully,

1411
01:20:41,130 --> 01:20:46,980
Adam Curry: more fully. Like,
what? What interests me is, she

1412
01:20:47,190 --> 01:20:50,880
really thinks she's doing her
job. She thinks she is doing

1413
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,480
journalism, she truly believes
this is right. This is

1414
01:20:54,480 --> 01:20:58,560
righteous. You're a dick. We
God's true. She she really

1415
01:20:58,560 --> 01:20:59,400
sincere is

1416
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:00,450
John C Dvorak: the word you're
looking for. Thank

1417
01:21:00,450 --> 01:21:04,470
Unknown: you sincere Is that
what you know, or talk about

1418
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:04,710
things,

1419
01:21:04,889 --> 01:21:07,229
John C Dvorak: guys like this,
this guy's like this, you know

1420
01:21:07,229 --> 01:21:10,289
that? Okay, she comes in, and
then she's starting to, you

1421
01:21:10,289 --> 01:21:14,489
know, these trying to bully her
and but she's righteous, she's

1422
01:21:14,489 --> 01:21:15,239
righteous,

1423
01:21:15,630 --> 01:21:17,100
Adam Curry: righteous, like, why

1424
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:19,050
Unknown: like, it sounds like
you have your opinion made me

1425
01:21:19,050 --> 01:21:20,070
based on that email.

1426
01:21:21,420 --> 01:21:25,860
So look, I just want you to know
that this is, I want to talk to

1427
01:21:25,860 --> 01:21:27,210
you a little laugh in there.

1428
01:21:29,070 --> 01:21:32,610
Adam Curry: God, this guy, mail.
Oh, so look,

1429
01:21:32,639 --> 01:21:36,419
Unknown: I just want you to know
that this is not. I want to talk

1430
01:21:36,419 --> 01:21:38,189
to you about this. But I

1431
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,220
think you should talk to me
before sending that email.

1432
01:21:42,150 --> 01:21:46,980
What I wanted to do is I wanted
to talk to you when we had some

1433
01:21:46,980 --> 01:21:53,160
specific questions for you. So I
wanted to kind of have the full

1434
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,230
idea of what we've asked on a
full idea.

1435
01:21:56,910 --> 01:21:59,370
Adam Curry: That's how you do
journalism these days. They're

1436
01:21:59,370 --> 01:22:02,340
going after advertisers. That's
my that's the bottom line.

1437
01:22:02,340 --> 01:22:05,040
They're gonna go after
everybody's advertisers. Google

1438
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,280
is backing them. Google wants
tick tock out Google wants

1439
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:12,720
RUMBLE, RUMBLE is apparently
something some force that

1440
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:17,310
they're worried about. And in
today's extreme downmarket, they

1441
01:22:17,310 --> 01:22:22,770
will help I have no doubt that
meta platforms will help. What

1442
01:22:22,770 --> 01:22:26,220
can we do? Well, first just
pulled the plug, okay, we've the

1443
01:22:26,220 --> 01:22:29,520
platform, but we don't really
want to, you know, take them

1444
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,830
off, because that'll start a
ground. So no, don't worry about

1445
01:22:31,830 --> 01:22:35,520
just no money for you brand.
Okay, now we have to go to the

1446
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,370
other platforms, they're gonna
go after all of them, and they

1447
01:22:38,370 --> 01:22:42,840
will succeed. Advertisers will
walk away from this.

1448
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,330
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Most of
them will.

1449
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,420
Adam Curry: Well, not enough
will stay to make it

1450
01:22:52,019 --> 01:22:54,359
John C Dvorak: will make the net
that wants to stay or be

1451
01:22:54,449 --> 01:22:57,119
stretched too thin, because
everybody will want to want

1452
01:22:57,119 --> 01:22:57,779
their help.

1453
01:22:58,980 --> 01:23:03,060
Adam Curry: You know, in a funny
way you do. It works in a funny

1454
01:23:03,060 --> 01:23:09,600
way. The only way, the only way
is the RSS. Everybody needs

1455
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:14,370
their own feed creator and
aggregator. We have to go back

1456
01:23:14,370 --> 01:23:18,750
to technology from 20 years ago.
It's all going to come tumbling

1457
01:23:18,750 --> 01:23:25,530
down. Like it is and this is why
we're who we are. Sure we are.

1458
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:32,370
Now value for Vallisneria. Legs.
Hairy legs. It's Oh, man.

1459
01:23:34,020 --> 01:23:36,720
John C Dvorak: Well, before we
get in the whole thing about

1460
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:44,160
broadcasting in these in the old
media, I dug up a a clip from

1461
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:50,340
1961. Who will just ruin the
early days of our show. And

1462
01:23:52,020 --> 01:23:55,050
Adam Curry: I remember them
well. My dad's a telescope. Yes.

1463
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,360
John C Dvorak: This is a famous,
there's a archive of all these

1464
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:05,040
great speeches. And I found this
guy, Norman Minow, who was the

1465
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:10,470
head of the FCC in 1961. And
this was his vast wasteland

1466
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:18,750
speech. And he was giving a talk
to the NAB, which was

1467
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,360
Adam Curry: a nation of
broadcasters.

1468
01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:25,950
John C Dvorak: And so this is
1961 him complaining about the

1469
01:24:25,950 --> 01:24:30,960
broadcast about TV. Mainly, he
was just bitching about TV. And

1470
01:24:30,990 --> 01:24:37,830
this is, what 62 years ago. And
I would like to play this in and

1471
01:24:37,830 --> 01:24:39,870
ask people if anything's really
changed,

1472
01:24:40,170 --> 01:24:44,910
Unknown: but when television is
bad, nothing is worse. I invite

1473
01:24:44,910 --> 01:24:47,970
each of you to sit down in front
of your own television set when

1474
01:24:47,970 --> 01:24:53,460
your station goes on there. And
stay there for a day without a

1475
01:24:53,460 --> 01:24:57,810
book, without a magazine without
a newspaper, without a profit

1476
01:24:57,810 --> 01:25:01,590
and loss sheet or a rating book
to distract you. Keep your eyes

1477
01:25:01,590 --> 01:25:05,190
glued to that set until the
station Chuck signs off. I can

1478
01:25:05,190 --> 01:25:09,270
assure you that what you will
observe is a vast wasteland. You

1479
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:12,600
will see a procession of game
shows formula comedies about

1480
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:16,950
totally unbelievable families.
Blood and thunder, man violence,

1481
01:25:17,340 --> 01:25:20,850
sadism, murder Western bad
Midwestern good men, Private

1482
01:25:20,850 --> 01:25:26,160
Eyes, gangsters, more violence
and cartoons and endlessly

1483
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:30,120
commercials, many screaming,
cajoling and offending, and most

1484
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,840
of all boredom, truly, you'll
see a few things you will enjoy.

1485
01:25:34,050 --> 01:25:38,910
But they will be very, very few.
And if you think I exaggerate, I

1486
01:25:38,910 --> 01:25:42,660
only asked him to try it. Is
there one person in this room

1487
01:25:42,660 --> 01:25:44,970
who claims that broadcasting
can't do better?

1488
01:25:46,710 --> 01:25:49,080
Adam Curry: That's a good clip
to bring back and evergreen for

1489
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:53,670
sure. Yeah, and the same as the
Doom scrolling on social media.

1490
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:57,750
It's exactly the same. Well, we
have one one thing wasn't in

1491
01:25:57,750 --> 01:26:01,500
that clip. men dressed as women
when women dressed as men. They

1492
01:26:01,500 --> 01:26:04,440
didn't have that as much back
then. In 19,

1493
01:26:04,710 --> 01:26:06,420
John C Dvorak: yeah, they had
quite a bit of it. Actually.

1494
01:26:06,420 --> 01:26:08,640
Milton Berle was always coming
out as a woman.

1495
01:26:08,970 --> 01:26:12,750
Adam Curry: Well, there you go.
Nothing. The only thing

1496
01:26:12,750 --> 01:26:16,770
John C Dvorak: that even during
the 60s when you had the guy in

1497
01:26:17,580 --> 01:26:22,200
the mash TV sitcom, who's always
dressed as a woman, clinger

1498
01:26:22,590 --> 01:26:23,430
calling a ringer,

1499
01:26:23,460 --> 01:26:24,570
Adam Curry: yes, you're right.

1500
01:26:24,930 --> 01:26:28,290
John C Dvorak: It's your rights
as it never really knew.

1501
01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:32,760
Adam Curry: Well, the only thing
that's new is the collapse of M

1502
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:39,750
five M CNN. Their total viewers
for the weekend slate of shows

1503
01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:44,700
including state of the union
with Jake Tapper, Danna bash,

1504
01:26:44,700 --> 01:26:49,800
and Fareed Zakaria each show how
many viewers do you think each

1505
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,930
show polled this weekend on CNN.
So

1506
01:26:51,930 --> 01:26:53,850
John C Dvorak: they got more
than the asterisk.

1507
01:26:54,660 --> 01:26:57,630
Adam Curry: I don't have a
rating number I have a total

1508
01:26:57,630 --> 01:26:58,680
view number for them.

1509
01:26:58,710 --> 01:27:00,960
John C Dvorak: Okay, whether
they have number Musa was is

1510
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,970
beyond the I would say 50,000
each. Ooh, 55,000.

1511
01:27:05,970 --> 01:27:11,220
Adam Curry: Very close. Very
close. 55,000 Yeah. Now MTV

1512
01:27:11,220 --> 01:27:18,120
Video Music Awards. Its highest
rated in three years. Among the

1513
01:27:18,150 --> 01:27:21,900
18 to 49 demographic, what
rating point do you think they

1514
01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:22,710
scored

1515
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,500
John C Dvorak: highest to three
years to get it to

1516
01:27:25,530 --> 01:27:32,190
Adam Curry: 1.03 Cheese 800,000
people in total tuned in to

1517
01:27:32,190 --> 01:27:39,180
watch the award show on MTV.
That's failure. That's failure.

1518
01:27:39,870 --> 01:27:46,380
Now of course they they they're
big numbers we have 1.8 billion

1519
01:27:46,380 --> 01:27:47,910
minutes consumed.

1520
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:51,150
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is the
latest I love this by the way.

1521
01:27:52,620 --> 01:27:55,110
Adam Curry: What advertise you
know who's eating everybody's

1522
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:58,110
lunch? There's only one company
that is really winning with

1523
01:27:58,110 --> 01:28:01,740
advertising. And that's Amazon.
Because Amazon has an

1524
01:28:01,740 --> 01:28:05,340
advertising network that they
can tie back to direct purchases

1525
01:28:05,370 --> 01:28:08,730
of the product. Amazon is you
can't go wrong with that

1526
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:13,620
technique. Everybody's ass and
they're beside themselves. They

1527
01:28:13,620 --> 01:28:18,480
don't know what to do and it's
collapsing so more reason to

1528
01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:21,630
support your value for value
podcasts. And with that I'd like

1529
01:28:21,630 --> 01:28:23,850
to thank you for your courage
they in the morning to you the

1530
01:28:23,850 --> 01:28:27,390
man who put the sea and carbon
up Ukraine ladies and gentlemen

1531
01:28:27,390 --> 01:28:30,870
say hello to my friend on the
other end. His Excellency the

1532
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:31,710
honourable Joe

1533
01:28:35,610 --> 01:28:37,800
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
you excellency in the morning

1534
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,960
all ships see boots on the
ground feed near subs in the

1535
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,090
water. All the names and nights
out there in the

1536
01:28:42,090 --> 01:28:43,770
Adam Curry: morning to
excellency in the morning for

1537
01:28:43,770 --> 01:28:46,260
the trolls and the troll room.
Let's have a count there. Hanjo

1538
01:28:46,260 --> 01:28:58,710
cows 1095 2095 We are down. We
are down. But we're not out. Is

1539
01:28:58,710 --> 01:28:59,190
that mean? We're

1540
01:28:59,190 --> 01:29:00,750
John C Dvorak: down is Thursday.

1541
01:29:00,780 --> 01:29:04,860
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm
confused. It's up. We're up.

1542
01:29:05,220 --> 01:29:10,500
We're winning. We're winning 200
Trolls more than we expected.

1543
01:29:10,500 --> 01:29:13,260
Hello, trolls. Thank you very
much. Would you like to be a

1544
01:29:13,260 --> 01:29:16,980
troll? Everybody likes being a
troll. You can be a troll by

1545
01:29:16,980 --> 01:29:20,670
going to troll room.io. It's a
webpage right there. You can log

1546
01:29:20,670 --> 01:29:23,310
into the troll room you can
listen to no agenda stream,

1547
01:29:23,550 --> 01:29:27,990
which we capture and use. Live
on Thursdays and Sundays. Of

1548
01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:31,770
course it's 24 hours a day. Use
a modern podcast app at new

1549
01:29:31,770 --> 01:29:35,430
podcast. apps.com get an alert
from podcast addict from

1550
01:29:35,430 --> 01:29:40,830
fountain from pod verse. You can
drop right into the chat room.

1551
01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:43,380
You can listen to the stream
live, you can listen to all of

1552
01:29:43,380 --> 01:29:47,550
your podcasts there. And because
it's RSS based and not part of

1553
01:29:47,550 --> 01:29:52,620
some platform, there's no D
platforming. There's no way they

1554
01:29:52,620 --> 01:29:55,410
can kick us off. They have to
they have to literally go to

1555
01:29:55,410 --> 01:29:59,250
void zero and chop his head off.
That's not going to happen

1556
01:29:59,250 --> 01:29:59,970
anytime soon.

1557
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,510
John C Dvorak: and you won't be
able to find him. And for and I

1558
01:30:03,510 --> 01:30:03,720
hate

1559
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,430
Adam Curry: to say it, but
there'll be more void zeros who

1560
01:30:05,430 --> 01:30:08,820
pop up. They cannot stop you.
They cannot stop you when you're

1561
01:30:08,820 --> 01:30:12,930
decentralized. Now, what also
seems to be working quite well

1562
01:30:12,930 --> 01:30:16,350
is our master non server. I
mean, no one else can really see

1563
01:30:16,350 --> 01:30:21,270
it unless unless you have your
own Mastodon or have a friendly

1564
01:30:21,420 --> 01:30:25,710
Mastodon server or lucky enough
to be one of the 10,000 That's

1565
01:30:25,710 --> 01:30:29,850
no agenda social.com Where I
mean, none of that stuff is

1566
01:30:29,850 --> 01:30:33,900
monetizable. And guess what?
There's no monetizing. It's just

1567
01:30:33,900 --> 01:30:36,930
there for trolls to muck about.
You can follow Adam and no

1568
01:30:36,930 --> 01:30:40,560
agenda social.com John C. Dvorak
at no agenda social.com. And,

1569
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,520
and troll around to your heart's
content there this that's often

1570
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:48,180
good things there. I noticed the
memes have slowed down. I think

1571
01:30:48,180 --> 01:30:50,640
my my campaign worked.

1572
01:30:50,850 --> 01:30:53,100
John C Dvorak: No, I think the
memes have slowed down what

1573
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:57,990
Adam Curry: the memes are just
no good. So there's no

1574
01:30:57,990 --> 01:31:01,680
advertisers to go after, which
of course means the news agents

1575
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,710
will never talk about us, which
means we don't get Daniel that

1576
01:31:04,770 --> 01:31:10,080
mass market appeal. But that is
so 2010 to be number one of

1577
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,010
something to be on the paid the
homepage of iTunes, we need we

1578
01:31:14,010 --> 01:31:17,730
need discovery mechanisms. Now.
No trolls, you are the discovery

1579
01:31:17,730 --> 01:31:20,340
mechanism. You go out you hit
people in the mouth, you tell

1580
01:31:20,340 --> 01:31:24,330
them about the show. And we give
this value to you completely

1581
01:31:24,330 --> 01:31:28,140
free of charge. There's no
levels, no premium content,

1582
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,350
don't have to listen through
advertisements, all we ask for

1583
01:31:31,350 --> 01:31:34,200
is that you send some value back
actually, the the value I

1584
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,290
appreciate the most, although it
doesn't pay the bills. But what

1585
01:31:37,290 --> 01:31:41,730
I appreciate is when people say,
Hey, you guys really saved my

1586
01:31:41,730 --> 01:31:44,910
butt. Now, don't you love that
when

1587
01:31:44,910 --> 01:31:47,130
John C Dvorak: people say that?
So it's pretty funny.

1588
01:31:47,940 --> 01:31:50,250
Adam Curry: I was like, it's
like, hey, you know, without you

1589
01:31:50,250 --> 01:31:55,620
guys die, be dead. Some people
simply I'd be dead. Some people

1590
01:31:55,620 --> 01:31:59,850
have said that, you know, or, or
I would I would be in a worse

1591
01:31:59,850 --> 01:32:02,490
situation or I wouldn't have
kept my eyes out for this.

1592
01:32:02,490 --> 01:32:05,790
That's the kind of value in the
time, talent and treasure that

1593
01:32:05,790 --> 01:32:09,300
we like so much. We also
appreciate people doing things,

1594
01:32:09,390 --> 01:32:13,050
creating jingles, boots on the
ground reports, clips, we have

1595
01:32:13,050 --> 01:32:15,960
so many people who do so much
for us. That's the only way that

1596
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:20,400
it works because we don't have
rumble money. If we just don't

1597
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,780
have brand money, though,
instead, you bring it to us. You

1598
01:32:24,810 --> 01:32:28,500
you help us do that as
producers. No one here is a

1599
01:32:28,500 --> 01:32:31,260
listener you are only a producer
of the best podcast in the

1600
01:32:31,260 --> 01:32:36,480
universe. That typically we get
a lot of value from our artists.

1601
01:32:37,140 --> 01:32:40,890
And I would say it's only once
in a blue moon. Unfortunately, I

1602
01:32:40,890 --> 01:32:47,010
jinxed it by talking about it.
We had to resort to an evergreen

1603
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:51,480
for the artwork for episode 1591
titled half jacked. That's

1604
01:32:51,480 --> 01:32:52,170
hyphenated.

1605
01:32:52,590 --> 01:32:54,390
John C Dvorak: I think it's
interesting that Paul couture

1606
01:32:54,390 --> 01:32:58,200
took the evergreen and put it on
the on the right page in the

1607
01:32:58,830 --> 01:33:00,570
section for the art

1608
01:33:01,350 --> 01:33:03,390
Adam Curry: but because he's
providing tremendous value with

1609
01:33:03,390 --> 01:33:07,860
the no agenda rt generator.com
service. me there's no denying

1610
01:33:07,860 --> 01:33:11,760
that space cat had done this a
while back. I'm going to say

1611
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,820
that might have been during
Valentine Day.

1612
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:22,110
John C Dvorak: Via but maybe two
years ago, that long ago. I kind

1613
01:33:22,110 --> 01:33:23,550
of is an old piece.

1614
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:29,100
Adam Curry: Let me see. It's
possible now. Because space CAD

1615
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:37,110
hasn't started submitting since
May 1 2022. So no, I don't think

1616
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:37,620
it was

1617
01:33:37,620 --> 01:33:41,280
John C Dvorak: less less last
February then but we

1618
01:33:41,370 --> 01:33:45,240
Adam Curry: could not okay,
here's the main thing. I go to

1619
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,120
the no agenda art generator.com
webpage. Now when you go to no

1620
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,310
agenda Art Generator calm. The
first thing you see is the

1621
01:33:50,310 --> 01:33:53,520
standing the ranking, which is
fun. There's important updates

1622
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:57,510
all kinds of information, then
you go into submitted art the

1623
01:33:57,510 --> 01:34:02,310
past couple of months. The
minute I see this page, all I

1624
01:34:02,310 --> 01:34:07,410
see is AI now it's not all AI,
but the majority is just people

1625
01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:13,050
sitting at home doing AI stuff.
Mostly AI mostly. And it's

1626
01:34:13,110 --> 01:34:16,440
boring. I mean, we looked at

1627
01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:21,270
John C Dvorak: well, you have a
theory that you do. Or we both

1628
01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:26,160
have the theory, which is that?
No, I think this is yours. The

1629
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:30,000
AI is keeping real artists from
submitting anything right

1630
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,250
Adam Curry: because people see
some beautiful piece and they

1631
01:34:32,250 --> 01:34:33,570
all kind of

1632
01:34:33,810 --> 01:34:35,580
John C Dvorak: I mean they're
well done, but they're not.

1633
01:34:36,450 --> 01:34:36,960
They're not.

1634
01:34:37,530 --> 01:34:40,800
Adam Curry: They don't have the
X factor by far. I mean, it was

1635
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,070
so bad. You went like Yeah, how
about that? No agenda target

1636
01:34:44,070 --> 01:34:45,300
logo from dirty jersey.

1637
01:34:45,660 --> 01:34:47,400
John C Dvorak: The one I picked
for the newsletter.

1638
01:34:47,700 --> 01:34:49,080
Adam Curry: That was the best
one.

1639
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:50,940
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
I thought.

1640
01:34:50,940 --> 01:34:53,280
Adam Curry: I just thought it
was so plain. I mean, can we

1641
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:54,330
have something?

1642
01:34:54,900 --> 01:34:58,440
John C Dvorak: No, it's riddle.
It was like a classic evergreen

1643
01:34:58,650 --> 01:35:01,530
type piece of art. That just
doesn't say anything doesn't

1644
01:35:01,530 --> 01:35:06,630
have any thing that is the
giveaway like about archery, it

1645
01:35:06,630 --> 01:35:08,730
would make more sense, but it
was pretty.

1646
01:35:09,059 --> 01:35:13,319
Adam Curry: The giveaway is when
people take a picture of a

1647
01:35:13,319 --> 01:35:19,559
person. And then you know, like,
do this with Russell Brand. Now

1648
01:35:19,559 --> 01:35:25,859
they're telling AI What to do
now. Gus, not Safia, ski FOSS

1649
01:35:25,889 --> 01:35:31,829
ski FIFA. He is not doing AI but
he's doing a style that we

1650
01:35:31,829 --> 01:35:34,889
already did once and we even
told them like, this is one

1651
01:35:35,099 --> 01:35:38,099
Surfer Magazine art Yeah, it's
like once in a blue moon we'll

1652
01:35:38,099 --> 01:35:40,919
do that but we think we just did
a piece like this.

1653
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:45,450
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's also
good kind of Surfer Magazine are

1654
01:35:45,570 --> 01:35:50,310
cross dressing with kind of a
kidnapping do

1655
01:35:50,970 --> 01:35:53,490
Adam Curry: Yeah, and it's not
bad. But it's

1656
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,650
John C Dvorak: you know, it's
nice, but it's not we're not

1657
01:35:55,650 --> 01:35:59,820
going to pick this for another
for a year. Exactly. It's exist

1658
01:35:59,820 --> 01:36:01,260
stylized. Exactly.

1659
01:36:01,290 --> 01:36:04,110
Adam Curry: It'd be like picking
a cheesecake every single show

1660
01:36:04,950 --> 01:36:06,900
right now and also,

1661
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,570
John C Dvorak: we don't do that
almost don't talk a big game but

1662
01:36:09,570 --> 01:36:11,100
we don't do all the

1663
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:13,410
Adam Curry: stuff that has
hippie dippie colors like we

1664
01:36:13,410 --> 01:36:17,430
know what you're doing. But it's
crowding out the true artists.

1665
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:24,870
And I think it's been a severe
degradation. And I Yes, I'm just

1666
01:36:24,870 --> 01:36:29,190
looking at the names. Where are
our classic artists while

1667
01:36:29,190 --> 01:36:33,960
certain that Ned gave it a try?
But just didn't quite hit it

1668
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,230
with a no agenda lifesavers
although I understand what he's

1669
01:36:37,230 --> 01:36:41,790
trying to do the day Yeah, like
we're lifesavers but it's just

1670
01:36:41,790 --> 01:36:47,010
like it was a three flavors you
know it's kind of been kind of

1671
01:36:47,010 --> 01:36:50,910
done and then Dame Kenny been
outstanding artists get shows us

1672
01:36:50,910 --> 01:36:55,320
a but Does she really think
we're going to show it we're

1673
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,090
going to put a but as artwork.

1674
01:36:57,330 --> 01:36:59,250
John C Dvorak: I didn't even
look at who did that I had

1675
01:36:59,250 --> 01:37:02,820
James. She's good. It's assumed
it was comic strip blogger

1676
01:37:02,850 --> 01:37:03,810
WooCommerce or Blogger should

1677
01:37:03,810 --> 01:37:07,500
Adam Curry: be banned. Look at
what he's all it's all common

1678
01:37:07,500 --> 01:37:11,070
should blogger all the Russell
Brand stuff and I think that

1679
01:37:11,070 --> 01:37:14,970
pollutes it. People go in and
whatever. Oh, they'll never see

1680
01:37:14,970 --> 01:37:15,630
the subtleties

1681
01:37:16,230 --> 01:37:19,470
John C Dvorak: are saying comic
strip blogger is a polluter.

1682
01:37:19,500 --> 01:37:23,670
Adam Curry: He's a he's an art
polluter? Yes, he's an art

1683
01:37:23,670 --> 01:37:26,820
polluter. Content. No,

1684
01:37:26,820 --> 01:37:29,430
John C Dvorak: this was a bad
selection. It was it was

1685
01:37:31,110 --> 01:37:33,780
Adam Curry: I do have wasn't any
good. Do you have a follow up

1686
01:37:33,780 --> 01:37:37,380
for our donation segment? You
know, correct the record. And

1687
01:37:37,380 --> 01:37:41,490
also the, the something
something topic for Dummies

1688
01:37:41,490 --> 01:37:45,120
books. We've also done that so
many times. So he said

1689
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,340
contacting the IRS for dummies.

1690
01:37:48,420 --> 01:37:52,950
John C Dvorak: It was it was a
chuckle. Yes, we've done way too

1691
01:37:52,950 --> 01:37:54,810
many dummies books. And that
wasn't one of the best

1692
01:37:54,810 --> 01:37:55,860
presentations of it.

1693
01:37:55,920 --> 01:38:00,570
Adam Curry: I had a follow up
from our producers who were had

1694
01:38:00,570 --> 01:38:06,450
been targeted by the the IRS AI
system. And they just wanted to

1695
01:38:06,450 --> 01:38:12,390
say of course, if you can get a
hold of the IRS, of course you

1696
01:38:12,390 --> 01:38:15,540
get a hold of someone. But this
is a part of their automated

1697
01:38:15,540 --> 01:38:19,650
under reporter system, which is
a real thing. I have certainly

1698
01:38:19,650 --> 01:38:23,130
talked to people at the IRS,
they literally cannot help you.

1699
01:38:23,130 --> 01:38:25,800
First they don't even appear to
understand basic accounting.

1700
01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:28,500
They cannot and will not put me
in touch with the department

1701
01:38:28,500 --> 01:38:32,040
that runs a system. All they are
authorized to do is put a note

1702
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:35,190
in the account and hope that
someone in the office in Philly

1703
01:38:35,190 --> 01:38:39,120
reads the note. Even if I went
down to the nearest IRS office

1704
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,280
they are powerless to do
anything about the case because

1705
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:44,610
it resides within the AU our
department where you can only

1706
01:38:44,610 --> 01:38:48,330
interface through the mail,
mailing them documents which

1707
01:38:48,330 --> 01:38:51,600
I've sent them to boxes seems to
result in them not reading the

1708
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,540
documents sending me another
letter saying I owe 10 times my

1709
01:38:54,540 --> 01:38:58,350
annual revenue in taxes. So
there is frustration and I got a

1710
01:38:58,350 --> 01:39:01,920
lot of people with similar
similar problems.

1711
01:39:02,850 --> 01:39:05,760
John C Dvorak: Time to talk to
your Congressman. Yeah, that guy

1712
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:07,860
from Texas. That guy from

1713
01:39:07,860 --> 01:39:10,530
Adam Curry: Texas is the go to
guy that's the guy you want.

1714
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:13,470
Yes. And you and your
congressman should be doing

1715
01:39:13,470 --> 01:39:21,900
something about it. For sure. So
while it was a a best of

1716
01:39:22,500 --> 01:39:27,300
evergreen, we do want to thank
space cat can we look forward to

1717
01:39:27,300 --> 01:39:31,140
let me see what we have now. Let
me just take a um looks like

1718
01:39:31,140 --> 01:39:34,380
people are doing some cretin
more creative stuff here for

1719
01:39:34,380 --> 01:39:38,130
today but comics are blogger
polluting again. polluting

1720
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:44,280
polluting is polluter. Love him,
but what a polluter. So we'll

1721
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:48,630
see. We'll see what we liked the
concepts. We like when people do

1722
01:39:48,630 --> 01:39:51,330
smart things. You know, when
people look at the art and go

1723
01:39:51,330 --> 01:39:55,020
oh, man, that makes so much
sense. Oh, that's funny. I can't

1724
01:39:55,020 --> 01:39:58,830
wait to hear that episode.
That's what we're looking for.

1725
01:39:59,700 --> 01:40:00,420
When you To say

1726
01:40:02,190 --> 01:40:05,220
John C Dvorak: yep that was say
that's probably as a summary as

1727
01:40:05,220 --> 01:40:06,360
good as summaries go

1728
01:40:06,419 --> 01:40:08,429
Adam Curry: all right so we'll
see how they do for today's

1729
01:40:08,429 --> 01:40:11,489
episode but thank you everyone
who tried Thank you comments

1730
01:40:11,489 --> 01:40:14,999
your blogger for trying but try
and limit it limit it to

1731
01:40:14,999 --> 01:40:18,569
something your best piece yeah
one good one and one good one No

1732
01:40:18,599 --> 01:40:21,929
don't when you do three Russell
brands that tells me you're just

1733
01:40:21,929 --> 01:40:25,289
like hitting the regenerate you
know I have this stuff I got it

1734
01:40:25,289 --> 01:40:31,409
running at home now I find I got
a I got I got 11 large language

1735
01:40:31,409 --> 01:40:34,769
models they all they all suck

1736
01:40:35,580 --> 01:40:37,890
John C Dvorak: to what you using
it to write or what are you

1737
01:40:37,890 --> 01:40:38,670
using it for? I

1738
01:40:38,670 --> 01:40:41,610
Adam Curry: can use it for art I
have one for a model for

1739
01:40:41,610 --> 01:40:44,280
creating art so I did like what
is it what

1740
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:44,910
John C Dvorak: brand

1741
01:40:46,170 --> 01:40:48,300
Adam Curry: yet? Well the name
of the model I would have to

1742
01:40:48,300 --> 01:40:52,020
give you that it's not a brand
so I have all the last

1743
01:40:52,020 --> 01:40:52,440
somebody's

1744
01:40:52,440 --> 01:40:54,240
John C Dvorak: got to do the
software it has to have a

1745
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:57,390
company name and no it doesn't
no that's not just have a big

1746
01:40:57,390 --> 01:41:01,380
database. It's just sitting
there random No, you have

1747
01:41:01,380 --> 01:41:03,900
Adam Curry: the the large
language model you had the large

1748
01:41:03,900 --> 01:41:07,410
model. And these are all open
source I told you this is the

1749
01:41:07,410 --> 01:41:12,840
open source all of this which is
why it's a joke. No, there's I

1750
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:17,490
have to tell you which ones we
have we have the Misao Max l

1751
01:41:17,490 --> 01:41:23,070
213. B That one seems to be
reasonable but it's all horrible

1752
01:41:23,070 --> 01:41:26,880
here the news hair mess llama
two, we've got the Hairmax llama

1753
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,360
two seven B the dolphin llama
two seven B Samantha one one

1754
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:34,710
llama seven B code llama seven B
instruct mark three BV to

1755
01:41:34,860 --> 01:41:39,000
Griffin three B John it all is
lame. It sucks it's no better

1756
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:43,920
than Lisp and C Plus Plus this
it's not this not outstanding.

1757
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:49,440
It's it's a big scam. It doesn't
work well. They don't you want

1758
01:41:49,440 --> 01:41:53,610
to does it actually if you say
find something in Scripture

1759
01:41:53,610 --> 01:41:56,190
about this topic, it does a
pretty decent job.

1760
01:41:57,180 --> 01:41:58,710
John C Dvorak: Other biblical?
Yeah.

1761
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,560
Adam Curry: I mean, there's so
many there's so much written so

1762
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:06,000
many Bibles that are available
open source is kind of an open

1763
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:11,340
source products that were out of
a mind. You know what I mean? It

1764
01:42:11,340 --> 01:42:16,800
works. That works pretty well.
But everything else? It it lies

1765
01:42:16,830 --> 01:42:20,580
it hallucinate. It's just wrong.
It's wrong and if you have it

1766
01:42:20,580 --> 01:42:24,870
right something Oh my god. Any
professional writer rolls their

1767
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:27,390
eyes at this flowery language.

1768
01:42:28,230 --> 01:42:32,790
John C Dvorak: Like to have it
right wine reviews, it probably

1769
01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:36,390
do the job of these wine
reviewers like to go on and on

1770
01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:37,620
and on about weird so

1771
01:42:37,620 --> 01:42:41,670
Adam Curry: that's a good idea.
I'll do a wine review with with

1772
01:42:41,700 --> 01:42:44,520
with with my AI and I'll read it
to you on the next show.

1773
01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:46,320
John C Dvorak: I'm sure Yeah,
it'll be it'll be a winner.

1774
01:42:46,620 --> 01:42:48,810
Adam Curry: I'm sure you'll
laugh your ass off. And we have

1775
01:42:48,810 --> 01:42:51,480
some AI stuff coming up later.
But first let's thank the people

1776
01:42:51,480 --> 01:42:54,240
who brought us the treasure and
our value for value model, which

1777
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:57,330
means we get to pay some bills.
We kick it off with our top

1778
01:42:57,330 --> 01:43:00,450
executive producer. Pass out
Robles. No, I'm sorry. That's

1779
01:43:00,450 --> 01:43:04,470
the town. We kick it off with
James Jackson. From Paso Robles,

1780
01:43:04,470 --> 01:43:09,570
California $1,000 Instant night
what is what is going on here?

1781
01:43:09,570 --> 01:43:11,490
There's no note I have no note
from him.

1782
01:43:11,849 --> 01:43:12,749
John C Dvorak: I got no note.

1783
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:14,850
Adam Curry: Hold on. Let me see.
I think Jay sent something

1784
01:43:15,450 --> 01:43:17,790
John C Dvorak: I don't know she
talked about David the next one

1785
01:43:17,790 --> 01:43:18,090
on this.

1786
01:43:18,150 --> 01:43:19,680
Adam Curry: So we have nothing
from him.

1787
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:21,390
John C Dvorak: No, we got
nothing.

1788
01:43:21,599 --> 01:43:23,549
Adam Curry: Oh man. Send us a
note. Let us know in the

1789
01:43:23,549 --> 01:43:26,009
meantime, thank you very much.
Here's a double karma double

1790
01:43:28,890 --> 01:43:35,220
John C Dvorak: karma so we ended
up with David from Scottsdale

1791
01:43:35,220 --> 01:43:40,110
Arizona there's a note about
him. She made a mistake calling

1792
01:43:40,110 --> 01:43:44,070
it line to his line to on her
sheet. Data man John, thanks for

1793
01:43:44,070 --> 01:43:46,500
what you do. I noticed that 100
shows have already passed as my

1794
01:43:46,500 --> 01:43:51,270
last donation 1492 Columbus
sailed the ocean blue I thought

1795
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:54,630
I better write a note this time
because last time John kept

1796
01:43:54,630 --> 01:43:59,100
calling out repeatedly is David
dare do we have a note from

1797
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:06,720
David? Hello David. Yes, David.
Well if this if that technique

1798
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:10,920
generates $1,000 I should do it
more often. This should make me

1799
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:15,720
a Baronet. Now investigate
getting my ring. So Shea's going

1800
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:18,210
to get a night in first and then
upgrade it

1801
01:44:18,210 --> 01:44:20,790
Adam Curry: okay so all right so
we do night who the knighting

1802
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:23,340
before the upgrade got it so we
reversed the order no

1803
01:44:23,340 --> 01:44:25,440
John C Dvorak: jingles and
stuff. Thanks David from

1804
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:29,580
Scottsdale PS I have a slightly
used F 35 I'm trying to sell if

1805
01:44:29,580 --> 01:44:35,820
you know anyone interested.
$1,000

1806
01:44:36,450 --> 01:44:40,440
Adam Curry: Thank you David.
Mark min minute. taglio minute

1807
01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:44,670
taglio Mark minute taglio Corpus
Christi, Texas. Just a bit down

1808
01:44:44,670 --> 01:44:49,410
the road 333 dot 33 I asked you
too deduce me on my first

1809
01:44:49,410 --> 01:44:53,760
donation so I have nothing else
to say. I love that Mark. Thank

1810
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,310
you. That's a perfect note. Good

1811
01:44:56,820 --> 01:44:59,940
John C Dvorak: luck with it just
came in as his first donation.

1812
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:08,130
Do you wish you've been de
deuced? Chris illustre who's in

1813
01:45:08,130 --> 01:45:11,730
Cincinnati, Ohio? I'm sure it's
pronounced slightly differently.

1814
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:16,920
No jingles no karma. That's
nice. This is a bar Mo and a

1815
01:45:17,250 --> 01:45:22,140
donation Barnhart to mow facts
and no agenda most savage 45

1816
01:45:22,140 --> 01:45:26,790
episodes a must listen. Read
slash blue tie Trump. Well

1817
01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:32,700
that's as old the red tide is
supposed to be this word. Forgot

1818
01:45:32,700 --> 01:45:36,180
I don't know if momentous is but
there was. They did now I think

1819
01:45:36,180 --> 01:45:42,750
is defunct or passed away
comedian whose name is eluding

1820
01:45:42,750 --> 01:45:47,250
me black guy that said the red
tide Trump was the real trump

1821
01:45:47,250 --> 01:45:50,280
the other ones a second was
brought me to my second best pot

1822
01:45:50,370 --> 01:45:54,060
cast in the universe as a
traditional Latin Mass Catholic,

1823
01:45:54,390 --> 01:45:57,750
and spod cast our cast Catholic
moonshine and eternally

1824
01:45:57,750 --> 01:46:03,300
relevant. Any show with nurse
Claire or Dr. Beep are certainly

1825
01:46:03,300 --> 01:46:08,970
medically relevant. I've always
looked for Dr. Beep. Chris over

1826
01:46:08,970 --> 01:46:13,200
Hughes in Cincinnati, Ohio 33333

1827
01:46:13,559 --> 01:46:17,519
Adam Curry: and Barnhart
donation give them that because

1828
01:46:17,519 --> 01:46:20,489
it started with a Barnhart Yeah,
I know exactly. You're talking

1829
01:46:20,489 --> 01:46:25,049
about on the tip of my tongue. I
can't remember it either. It'll

1830
01:46:25,049 --> 01:46:28,889
come to me sir. Tar Heel is in
Leland North Carolina. 333 33

1831
01:46:28,889 --> 01:46:34,529
John natum. I've been on a month
sub. For 10 years at $10. I've

1832
01:46:34,529 --> 01:46:37,919
had numerous 33 triggers lately,
reminding me to kick in some

1833
01:46:37,919 --> 01:46:42,539
executive producer love after
getting back to 33 and 133.

1834
01:46:42,539 --> 01:46:47,399
Order. Gregory de Dick Gregory.
Thank you. He may still be

1835
01:46:47,399 --> 01:46:47,879
alive.

1836
01:46:49,230 --> 01:46:50,310
John C Dvorak: Oh no, I don't
think so.

1837
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,720
Adam Curry: After getting back
to 33 and 133 Order Number

1838
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:58,530
posted notes from Culvers drive
thru I had to pitch in. This

1839
01:46:58,530 --> 01:47:01,650
also bumps me to Baronet. I
would like an F cancer and

1840
01:47:01,650 --> 01:47:05,250
retirement karma. After 23 years
with the largest dredging

1841
01:47:05,250 --> 01:47:08,130
company in the US I need to
spend more time with my family

1842
01:47:08,190 --> 01:47:11,490
following multiple friends and
colleagues dropping dead from

1843
01:47:11,490 --> 01:47:15,900
cancer and or massive heart
attacks on us. No good luck.

1844
01:47:15,900 --> 01:47:19,500
Well, you know what, you got to
stay active when you retire.

1845
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,100
That's the trick, you know,
cluttering you know, as if

1846
01:47:23,100 --> 01:47:26,190
neatly start doing something
active. Luckily, I was able to

1847
01:47:26,190 --> 01:47:30,750
get by with force j&j Instead of
mRNA. they cease pointing the

1848
01:47:30,750 --> 01:47:34,140
finger. My best friend just
dropped dead from stage four

1849
01:47:34,140 --> 01:47:38,430
colon cancer at 49. Then within
weeks, my grandfather died from

1850
01:47:38,430 --> 01:47:42,180
a sudden onset stage for bone
cancer in his spine. Not sure

1851
01:47:42,180 --> 01:47:44,490
how many people have to drop
dead around us from heart

1852
01:47:44,490 --> 01:47:48,000
attacks and turbo cancer before
someone has to answer for it.

1853
01:47:48,420 --> 01:47:51,570
Thank you never 20 years from
now. Thank you for all your

1854
01:47:51,570 --> 01:47:54,570
deconstructions over the years
and look forward to more sanity

1855
01:47:54,720 --> 01:48:01,260
inducing hours of content. Add a
JC D donate donate. Ghostly

1856
01:48:01,260 --> 01:48:02,640
version. Yes of course.

1857
01:48:13,980 --> 01:48:17,070
That's one that's that chime
that chime that really that

1858
01:48:17,070 --> 01:48:18,480
programs people's brains

1859
01:48:19,440 --> 01:48:21,690
John C Dvorak: you can read the
next one is blown out my

1860
01:48:21,690 --> 01:48:23,400
spreadsheet the notes too long,

1861
01:48:23,429 --> 01:48:27,749
Adam Curry: anonymous spirit
from Tomahawk, Wisconsin. 333 28

1862
01:48:28,469 --> 01:48:30,509
Anonymous spirit of the north
woods here had been too long

1863
01:48:30,509 --> 01:48:33,509
since the last donation but a
birthday switcheroo for my first

1864
01:48:33,509 --> 01:48:37,949
human resource. The bar barista
on a second so I put that in

1865
01:48:37,949 --> 01:48:43,829
here. The bar by restart Okay.
All right. The barber barista

1866
01:48:43,829 --> 01:48:48,209
has been switched to rude it's
good reasons any add him to the

1867
01:48:48,209 --> 01:48:51,329
birthday list as he turned 28 on
the 17th switch. What are you

1868
01:48:51,329 --> 01:48:51,779
drinking?

1869
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:56,490
John C Dvorak: I heard gone to
shoes. It was on sale at Costco.

1870
01:48:56,490 --> 01:48:57,720
Topo Chico

1871
01:48:57,750 --> 01:49:01,410
Adam Curry: Oh Texas favorite
Topo Chico is double Juke.

1872
01:49:01,440 --> 01:49:03,720
John C Dvorak: It's over
carbonated. That's why we like

1873
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:07,560
it. We like to burp a lot. Yeah,
it makes you burpple does.

1874
01:49:07,980 --> 01:49:10,380
Adam Curry: You know, like
people will come into our house

1875
01:49:10,380 --> 01:49:13,680
and say you want something to
drink? And you see you want some

1876
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:19,110
water? Yeah, you got Topo Topo.
Totally. We call it a topo.

1877
01:49:19,380 --> 01:49:23,400
Yeah, I bet you do. Don't call
it a topo. This which route

1878
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:25,500
takes him two thirds of the way
to knighthood and if he cracks

1879
01:49:25,500 --> 01:49:28,650
open his wallet and spend some
of that tax free tip money he

1880
01:49:28,650 --> 01:49:32,670
could get his title and ring
before me. The competition has

1881
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:35,160
been really wanting to send a
boots on the ground regarding

1882
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:38,250
working for a Euro company in
the US and all the wokeness and

1883
01:49:38,250 --> 01:49:41,670
aggressive venture capital, Lean
management craziness that

1884
01:49:41,670 --> 01:49:45,270
abounds up boots on the ground.
You guys are spot on in terms of

1885
01:49:45,270 --> 01:49:48,450
your take on the Japanese Lean
management stuff. And it's

1886
01:49:48,450 --> 01:49:51,330
interesting to see how they've
turned it from a tool to flip a

1887
01:49:51,330 --> 01:49:54,660
company into a tool to squeeze
the last drops of blood out of

1888
01:49:54,660 --> 01:49:58,560
US companies as interest rates
rise service on debt squeezes

1889
01:49:58,650 --> 01:50:02,670
and m&a opportunities subside.
Yep, it's all over. There you

1890
01:50:02,670 --> 01:50:06,180
go. Now is likely the worst time
in all of history to work for a

1891
01:50:06,180 --> 01:50:09,360
large corporation and I feel bad
for the young people because I

1892
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:12,360
see it getting a lot worse
before it gets better. Glad I

1893
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:14,760
see the light at the end of the
tunnel. Oh, that's kind of you

1894
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,460
kind of contradict yourself
there. Thanks for all you do no

1895
01:50:17,460 --> 01:50:21,900
jingles but jobs karma because I
hate mine. Jobs,

1896
01:50:22,050 --> 01:50:26,280
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

1897
01:50:28,350 --> 01:50:32,040
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I forgot
the F cancer force or Tar Heel.

1898
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:39,000
Let me do that. You've got
karma?

1899
01:50:40,140 --> 01:50:42,990
John C Dvorak: I think by light
at the end of the tunnel he it

1900
01:50:42,990 --> 01:50:44,520
meant he's going to quit.

1901
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:47,490
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Yeah, he's
he's quitting his job.

1902
01:50:48,210 --> 01:50:51,870
John C Dvorak: Yes, my guest
Matthew Grisham is up next and

1903
01:50:51,870 --> 01:50:57,270
he's in Zephyrhills Florida.
Yes. Interesting.

1904
01:50:57,299 --> 01:51:01,769
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is three
this is the star Hill hemp guys.

1905
01:51:02,519 --> 01:51:04,799
John C Dvorak: Oh, yes. Thank
you for amazing shout out for

1906
01:51:04,799 --> 01:51:09,599
the crew here. It's star Hill
hemp. We also want to thank to

1907
01:51:09,599 --> 01:51:13,859
get mo nation rally support the
influx of orders with the ITM 33

1908
01:51:13,889 --> 01:51:16,889
promo code has been very
uplifting, along with our

1909
01:51:16,889 --> 01:51:21,539
amazing gummies we have been
concocting something here. Else

1910
01:51:21,539 --> 01:51:25,859
something else here in the lab,
a scheme to ruin your exit plan.

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01:51:26,759 --> 01:51:29,159
Adam Curry: Okay, all right.
How's that gonna work?

1912
01:51:29,519 --> 01:51:31,949
John C Dvorak: For those that
stick around for the donation

1913
01:51:31,949 --> 01:51:39,089
segment we will change the promo
code to jacket 22 That to use

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01:51:39,209 --> 01:51:48,269
with a d d a d u c k i t 22 with
a 22% discount. For those that

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01:51:48,269 --> 01:51:53,039
don't too bad in keeping with
the spirit of 33 and extra 11%

1916
01:51:53,039 --> 01:51:55,529
of the End discounted price of
every sale will be sent to the

1917
01:51:55,529 --> 01:51:58,559
best podcast in the world. Oh
there you go. Are the

1918
01:51:58,559 --> 01:51:59,789
universitari that's gonna

1919
01:51:59,790 --> 01:52:01,590
Adam Curry: keep us from an exit
strategy

1920
01:52:01,650 --> 01:52:05,100
John C Dvorak: we got well let's
cut it early. gotta chew a lot

1921
01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:11,040
of gummies a lot of gummies it
is fine to mention our kratom

1922
01:52:11,070 --> 01:52:14,970
nano gummies we only need to
exercise caution on the

1923
01:52:14,970 --> 01:52:19,320
transaction so we're in the
process of listing them on Star

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01:52:19,650 --> 01:52:24,510
Hill hamp.com Anyone may ask for
them directly by emailing us at

1925
01:52:24,540 --> 01:52:30,270
info at Star Hill hamp.com and
we will set up a straw purchase.

1926
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,450
This does wink wink nudge nudge
should sound

1927
01:52:33,450 --> 01:52:34,080
Adam Curry: legal.

1928
01:52:34,890 --> 01:52:37,530
John C Dvorak: Does it sound
right oh no I don't like can we

1929
01:52:37,530 --> 01:52:40,200
get some sales karma? Yeah, we
can give you that? Yeah,

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01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:42,600
Adam Curry: no problem. That's
legal. We can do that for you.

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01:52:42,660 --> 01:52:49,530
You've got karma. What is it
nano kratom nano gummies

1932
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:53,400
activated by the Emergency
Broadcast System? No doubt. Sir.

1933
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:57,420
Sunder is in Zaandam 333 Triple
making rainbow nation with

1934
01:52:57,420 --> 01:53:01,740
special greetings to Bambi I
miss her. I miss her. He says

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01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:05,010
for the best podcast in the
universe. XX are sounder from

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01:53:05,010 --> 01:53:08,280
Zaandam, the Duke of
Switzerland. Thank you. Thank

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01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:09,480
you very much, sir song,

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01:53:09,900 --> 01:53:15,330
John C Dvorak: sir Mr. Bob dough
Ballina, W. Bob Dole Molina in

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01:53:15,330 --> 01:53:17,670
San Diego, California bilena

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01:53:18,810 --> 01:53:19,410
Adam Curry: W

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01:53:19,410 --> 01:53:21,840
John C Dvorak: dot bilena
Billina. John, I sent an email

1942
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:25,050
regarding Nashville's Town Hall
regarding guns as public health

1943
01:53:25,050 --> 01:53:27,780
emergency and infectious disease
Yes, I did get deaths very

1944
01:53:27,780 --> 01:53:31,200
interesting. And a new report
that calls human remains found

1945
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:35,190
at Catholic schools in Canada a
hoax be well guys now I will

1946
01:53:35,190 --> 01:53:39,030
mention this. You remember that
story from a few years back? I

1947
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:41,970
should read this email. I had to
dig it up. Maybe read it later.

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01:53:42,930 --> 01:53:46,470
That you know, they found that
Catholic bunch of Catholic

1949
01:53:46,470 --> 01:53:50,100
schools had a bunch of dead
native native Canadians, you

1950
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:53,280
know, indigenous Canadians had
found them they dug them up the

1951
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:57,120
Pope came over and everyone's
apologizing left and right. Well

1952
01:53:57,120 --> 01:54:02,370
now turns out to be a complete
hoax. Including the the pope got

1953
01:54:02,370 --> 01:54:08,880
hoax. Everybody got hoaxed a
pope hoax and so they then no

1954
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,760
one's covering this part of it
of the hoax because it's like

1955
01:54:11,790 --> 01:54:14,610
oh, geez, we got embarrassed
because there was all over this

1956
01:54:14,610 --> 01:54:18,300
gets burned the Catholics
because they kill these kids.

1957
01:54:22,170 --> 01:54:23,010
Bullcrap

1958
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,170
Adam Curry: who did who came up
with

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01:54:25,170 --> 01:54:26,760
John C Dvorak: it, there were
never bones there in the first

1960
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:30,690
place. He says it was all a
phony determination by ground

1961
01:54:30,690 --> 01:54:32,190
penetrating radar.

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01:54:33,180 --> 01:54:36,750
Adam Curry: Oh, even better.
Send me a copy of that. I want

1963
01:54:36,750 --> 01:54:37,560
to read that.

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01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:40,770
John C Dvorak: I will send it to
you. Now. I'll try to dig it up.

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01:54:40,770 --> 01:54:41,910
I'll read it on the show later.

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01:54:41,940 --> 01:54:44,520
Adam Curry: By the way, this is
great for the donation segment.

1967
01:54:44,550 --> 01:54:48,480
This really spices up the whole
program. Appreciate that Mr. Bob

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01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:54,540
double Lena Lee is in Green Bay,
Wisconsin to 23 dot 23. He's our

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01:54:54,540 --> 01:54:57,120
first Associate Executive
Producer, and this donation

1970
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,970
qualifies him for knighthood. He
says I wish to be dubbed the

1971
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:07,110
cervix have the long position. I
guess he invest in the VIX. Then

1972
01:55:07,110 --> 01:55:09,480
ETF the VIX is that what that's
called?

1973
01:55:09,509 --> 01:55:11,519
John C Dvorak: No No but yeah,
well it's kind of the VIX is

1974
01:55:11,519 --> 01:55:17,609
really just just a creation it
is a creation that reflects the

1975
01:55:17,639 --> 01:55:23,159
volatility in the market doesn't
even exist it's like a bitcoin

1976
01:55:23,159 --> 01:55:24,359
is kind of just like

1977
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:27,600
Adam Curry: Bitcoin it's just
like Bitcoin thank you for

1978
01:55:27,810 --> 01:55:28,680
John C Dvorak: very similar

1979
01:55:31,890 --> 01:55:34,200
Adam Curry: How was Bitcoin How
was the VIX different from

1980
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:37,440
money? Isn't doesn't money not
exist either? I mean, isn't that

1981
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:37,860
just

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01:55:37,890 --> 01:55:40,230
John C Dvorak: I can Yeah, get a
hold a bill. I don't want to put

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01:55:40,230 --> 01:55:41,070
it my mouth.

1984
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:51,000
Adam Curry: She said, Okay. Hey,
Annie wants venison and verm

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01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:52,650
Vermox what's Vermox?

1986
01:55:53,490 --> 01:55:56,640
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
Vermox is. I have no idea

1987
01:55:56,700 --> 01:56:00,660
Adam Curry: vermouth. I know.
But Vermox venison. It's well,

1988
01:56:00,660 --> 01:56:03,000
well, we'll taste it later.
That'll be at the roundtable for

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01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:05,250
you. Hope to see everybody at
the Green Bay meet up this

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01:56:05,250 --> 01:56:09,300
Saturday, Jill's bar 3pm Note
forthcoming. We look forward to

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01:56:09,300 --> 01:56:10,110
it. Lee. Thank you.

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01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:15,630
John C Dvorak: Carl Nagle in
Hempstead, North Carolina to a

1993
01:56:15,630 --> 01:56:20,550
164 about my magic number. It's
the cash back from my credit

1994
01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:24,270
card that I never use. How does
that work? For everyone out

1995
01:56:24,270 --> 01:56:27,210
there with a credit card that's
just sitting out there with

1996
01:56:27,210 --> 01:56:30,810
money on it? I bet there's tons
of listeners with balances who

1997
01:56:30,810 --> 01:56:34,440
could elevate themselves to the
level of not a douchebag like

1998
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:39,270
me. I'm in North Carolina not
commie Fornia love the show.

1999
01:56:39,510 --> 01:56:42,270
Adam Curry: Does Carl need to
dilution for this?

2000
01:56:42,300 --> 01:56:46,830
John C Dvorak: I think he does.
You've been de deuced

2001
01:56:48,540 --> 01:56:54,150
Adam Curry: and Nathan the ra ta
ro TA and Eureka River, Alberta,

2002
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:57,630
Canada Navia 200 In the morning
from the lamb that doesn't burn

2003
01:56:57,630 --> 01:57:01,230
books. Adam here's something you
can refill your biscuit tin.

2004
01:57:01,590 --> 01:57:04,740
John, the Obama clip was yuck.
Thank you both for making the

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01:57:04,740 --> 01:57:09,210
news digestible and forgive me
for pod stealing. That means

2006
01:57:09,210 --> 01:57:11,790
that d douching is no longer a
pod. See, thank you for your

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01:57:11,790 --> 01:57:12,420
courage.

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01:57:13,650 --> 01:57:18,120
John C Dvorak: You've been D
deuced. And last on our list is

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01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:24,450
Linda Lou Pak and in Lakewood,
Colorado, she was jobs Carmen

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01:57:24,450 --> 01:57:27,480
for a resume that gets results
go to Image makers inc.com For

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01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:31,080
all your executive resume and
job search needs. That's image

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makers Inc with a k.com. Or just
find Linda Lou patcon. Under the

2013
01:57:35,610 --> 01:57:39,000
show's producer list, Josh has
continued

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01:57:39,629 --> 01:57:48,029
Unknown: jobs they're down jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs. Yay.

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01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,790
Adam Curry: These are the
Executive Associate Executive

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01:57:50,790 --> 01:57:55,200
producers of the best podcasting
universe episode 1592. We

2017
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:58,140
appreciate everything that you
do. And these credits are of

2018
01:57:58,140 --> 01:58:01,800
course completely legal, legit
and can be used anywhere credits

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01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:05,250
are recognized. If you want to
learn more how to become an

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01:58:05,250 --> 01:58:07,530
executive or Associate Executive
Producer with the no agenda show

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01:58:07,530 --> 01:58:12,870
go here for.org/and A and John
is going to take us through to

2022
01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:16,470
the 50s and we'll get into our
meetups and more second half on

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01:58:16,470 --> 01:58:17,280
the way too.

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01:58:17,670 --> 01:58:19,800
John C Dvorak: And before I do
that, I want to thank you, sir

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01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:26,490
1010 Jelenia and Renegade for
sending me the the uttama tau

2026
01:58:26,490 --> 01:58:30,240
whatever it's called. Oh, before
noisemaker that will be his

2027
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:30,810
batteries.

2028
01:58:30,870 --> 01:58:35,160
Adam Curry: And I need to thank
our our night from the wood from

2029
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:38,850
the wooden watches once he said
hold on a second. Let me get it.

2030
01:58:39,150 --> 01:58:45,180
He sent it to me, John. I have
axehead watches you know, he's

2031
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:51,360
sir Mike. Sir, my writer of MIT
and he sent me the Karmapa Lee

2032
01:58:51,390 --> 01:58:53,550
game. Oh, I

2033
01:58:53,550 --> 01:58:54,690
John C Dvorak: want a copy of
this.

2034
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:57,390
Adam Curry: This is the only one
in existence. though. He

2035
01:58:57,390 --> 01:58:59,370
John C Dvorak: sent us a
prototype. He sent

2036
01:58:59,370 --> 01:59:02,520
Adam Curry: me the prototype.
It's hilarious. I think he

2037
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:06,510
should restart the crowd for
now. Why? crowdfund people would

2038
01:59:06,510 --> 01:59:10,140
pay money for this. Give a piece
of it to the show. It is a

2039
01:59:10,140 --> 01:59:12,930
Hulett he went he tried to raise
$20,000 That's the you know,

2040
01:59:12,930 --> 01:59:18,300
that's a that's a that's a hard
one for crowdfunding. It is. I

2041
01:59:18,300 --> 01:59:21,660
mean, he's got everything in
there. Tina, you're gonna play

2042
01:59:21,660 --> 01:59:25,350
it with some friends. It is it
is. I mean, it's just it's

2043
01:59:25,350 --> 01:59:30,120
monopoly only no agenda style.
It is a dynamite piece of work.

2044
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:34,050
He put a lot of work into this.
And not only that, but the the

2045
01:59:34,050 --> 01:59:37,980
demo version. This this first
print up he got has a typo. So

2046
01:59:37,980 --> 01:59:42,300
it's a complete collector's item
was a typo. I couldn't find it.

2047
01:59:42,300 --> 01:59:45,480
But he says it's out there. So
he says it's a typo. I haven't

2048
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:50,100
been able to find it. It's just
a beautiful piece of work. I

2049
01:59:50,100 --> 01:59:54,480
mean, please, sir Mike,

2050
01:59:54,540 --> 01:59:56,940
John C Dvorak: I start doing it.
What is the Monopoly game

2051
01:59:56,940 --> 01:59:57,990
normally sell for?

2052
01:59:58,620 --> 02:00:00,420
Adam Curry: I don't know.
Actually. Let's

2053
02:00:00,420 --> 02:00:02,370
John C Dvorak: look it up we can
consult the book and knowledge

2054
02:00:02,370 --> 02:00:04,140
or consult the book of Amazon

2055
02:00:04,170 --> 02:00:05,970
Adam Curry: yeah well why don't
you consult the book of also

2056
02:00:05,970 --> 02:00:07,860
someone else and me will read

2057
02:00:07,860 --> 02:00:09,750
John C Dvorak: these things and
then you look at the price for

2058
02:00:09,750 --> 02:00:12,900
the game because it would be
interesting if he could shoot if

2059
02:00:12,900 --> 02:00:17,190
he could bootstrap it. Okay all
right, we're just gonna start

2060
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:21,450
with thing is and people started
with Alan bows and Langley BC on

2061
02:00:21,450 --> 02:00:28,020
an seven $8.08 per give you some
karma at the end Jason Bible, or

2062
02:00:28,020 --> 02:00:33,300
bibble in Austin, Texas. 120 12,
dan melee and Fremont,

2063
02:00:33,300 --> 02:00:38,460
California 113 Aaron Lundqvist
in Sebring, Florida Sebring.

2064
02:00:38,490 --> 02:00:44,550
101. A one Melissa Reeve in
Winchester Virginia 100 Then I

2065
02:00:44,550 --> 02:00:50,520
got some notes got these people
need dee doo Shanks Priscilla,

2066
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:54,360
let me make sure we got this
right. These are checks that

2067
02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:56,070
came in with cute little notes.

2068
02:00:57,150 --> 02:00:59,580
Adam Curry: He's from a meet up
or something? Must be

2069
02:00:59,850 --> 02:01:01,740
John C Dvorak: No, these are
just checks that came in the

2070
02:01:01,740 --> 02:01:06,270
mail. Oh, okay. And Priscilla
wrote a long note on a card and

2071
02:01:06,270 --> 02:01:09,990
I love the show. We've enjoyed
it for years. Please. Do a quick

2072
02:01:09,990 --> 02:01:15,810
check. Blah, blah, blah. Check
on this. She doesn't Okay, she

2073
02:01:15,810 --> 02:01:20,850
doesn't need that the douching
but and she came in with $100

2074
02:01:21,300 --> 02:01:26,190
Edsel Baker came in with $100
and he needs a D douching.

2075
02:01:27,930 --> 02:01:31,620
Adam Curry: You've been D deuced
by the way a monopoly game.

2076
02:01:32,310 --> 02:01:35,310
Cheap Jack like just something
you know, like, Okay, I'm

2077
02:01:35,310 --> 02:01:40,710
playing the game but it's just
cheap. is about $34 for a nice

2078
02:01:40,860 --> 02:01:46,740
old school Monopoly game up to
luxury edition board 279 And the

2079
02:01:46,740 --> 02:01:50,100
bikes Well, I mean, it's a
luxury it's beautiful. But what

2080
02:01:50,100 --> 02:01:50,280
does

2081
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:52,590
John C Dvorak: luxury mean? You
get a blow job when you buy it

2082
02:01:54,270 --> 02:01:58,800
Adam Curry: correct. How did you
know right from Amazon. It's a

2083
02:01:58,860 --> 02:02:03,270
it's like a wooden a beautiful
wooden piece and Scott. You put

2084
02:02:03,270 --> 02:02:08,010
the it's has a sunken middle.
You know so so you can see the

2085
02:02:08,010 --> 02:02:10,740
dice the dice when you roll on
this and the cards are all in

2086
02:02:10,740 --> 02:02:14,850
the middle please but the
monopoly the classic edition $34

2087
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:19,980
And then you've got the cheap
the cheapo modern edition, which

2088
02:02:19,980 --> 02:02:22,830
may not even have the hat and
everything. I don't know what to

2089
02:02:22,830 --> 02:02:23,220
have him

2090
02:02:23,220 --> 02:02:26,400
John C Dvorak: run off in China
and get him printed up for next

2091
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:30,750
to nothing John Jason Guile is
also in for 100 bucks and he

2092
02:02:30,750 --> 02:02:36,330
needs a D douching. You've been
de Deus assume he's on the

2093
02:02:36,330 --> 02:02:40,620
birthday list. Just shout out to
Jason gal. I'm so this from

2094
02:02:40,620 --> 02:02:43,620
Rachel. Rachel. Now I'm going to
put on I just probably a

2095
02:02:43,620 --> 02:02:45,540
switcheroo. So we'll give it
credit. Right.

2096
02:02:46,110 --> 02:02:48,990
Adam Curry: From Rachel. From
Rachel to

2097
02:02:49,500 --> 02:02:50,220
John C Dvorak: Jason.

2098
02:02:50,550 --> 02:02:52,050
Adam Curry: That it's a
birthday.

2099
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,760
John C Dvorak: Birthday shadow
didn't have a date. Okay, from

2100
02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:58,110
Adam Curry: Rachel to Jason.
Okay.

2101
02:03:00,270 --> 02:03:03,300
John C Dvorak: All right. Onward
with Aaron Lewis in Ashburn,

2102
02:03:03,300 --> 02:03:06,420
Virginia 9024

2103
02:03:08,220 --> 02:03:10,530
Adam Curry: Brian one happy one
year anniversary to my smokin

2104
02:03:10,530 --> 02:03:16,290
hot hubby Kyle you go want to do
him shoot or maybe

2105
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:23,460
John C Dvorak: you've been deed
deuced this 9024 Brian Lillard

2106
02:03:23,460 --> 02:03:28,680
and prosper Texas. 8888. Carson
Brown and state in Oregon. 81

2107
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:34,410
needs a D douchey. You've been D
deuced. Doing it done it Kevin

2108
02:03:34,410 --> 02:03:37,830
McLaughlin is in Concord, North
Carolina with his classic boob

2109
02:03:37,830 --> 02:03:45,750
donation of 808 promoting the
kiss melon, the kiss melon. It's

2110
02:03:45,750 --> 02:03:49,680
got a big tongue that comes out
of it. Richard White in

2111
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:56,370
Middleton, Connecticut 7105. And
as a switcheroo for his awesome

2112
02:03:56,370 --> 02:03:59,520
wife Joey in the woods from
corporate Hampshire and a de

2113
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:05,880
Deus she's needed. You've been
de deuced good. Oh sir Rick in

2114
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:09,780
Arlington, Washington. 6996 Rita
Harrington in Sparks Nevada

2115
02:04:10,020 --> 02:04:22,200
6633. Stephen Nehring in
Houston, Texas 6333. Sir Kevin

2116
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:26,070
O'Brien in Chicago, Illinois 606
small boobs and Kevin McLaughlin

2117
02:04:26,070 --> 02:04:31,050
is back. I don't know how long
this is gonna continue 606 But

2118
02:04:31,050 --> 02:04:34,200
this time he's promoting the
papaya melon.

2119
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:38,250
Adam Curry: How long will he be
able to come up with melon

2120
02:04:38,250 --> 02:04:38,670
names?

2121
02:04:38,700 --> 02:04:40,290
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
many more melons there are in

2122
02:04:40,290 --> 02:04:46,590
the world. David Jarman in
North, in north south, where is

2123
02:04:46,590 --> 02:04:54,240
that New South news is in
Australia. It's 57. I'm getting

2124
02:04:54,240 --> 02:05:02,340
confused in 2017 broker a 5510.
Jake Mark Are mountain ma l OTT

2125
02:05:02,340 --> 02:05:05,430
mallet in Bellevue, Illinois a
lot

2126
02:05:05,460 --> 02:05:06,510
Adam Curry: melotti even had

2127
02:05:08,550 --> 02:05:10,410
John C Dvorak: a lot of times
with a lot.

2128
02:05:12,540 --> 02:05:13,770
Adam Curry: made lots Melot

2129
02:05:14,580 --> 02:05:21,630
John C Dvorak: Melot Alton poop
I'm sorry Alan pop in Trenton,

2130
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:30,690
Michigan 53 Tima Z wit even even
in Pasco Washington 53 Just say

2131
02:05:30,690 --> 02:05:31,530
you're on the list buddy.

2132
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:33,750
Adam Curry: You know if if
there's no agenda Karmapa Lee

2133
02:05:33,750 --> 02:05:36,570
came with a blow job and people
might have crowdfunded for 20

2134
02:05:36,570 --> 02:05:37,770
Grant. I'm just saying.

2135
02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:43,350
John C Dvorak: Is that a joke
you just got now or

2136
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:47,190
Adam Curry: I just added it just
came build up for the Yeah,

2137
02:05:47,220 --> 02:05:50,310
okay, sorry. I'm sorry. You're
the one here the font around

2138
02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:51,990
here. Yes, timing is everything.

2139
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:56,460
John C Dvorak: Bear in Henry in
Rancho Palos Verdes days. 5242

2140
02:05:56,490 --> 02:06:01,410
Andrew Benz and Imperial
Missouri 5005. And here we go.

2141
02:06:01,410 --> 02:06:05,460
We have a lot of $50 donors
today. Starting with Marcel

2142
02:06:05,730 --> 02:06:13,110
mill, okay. Let me admit Mr.
Mather might might might or Vika

2143
02:06:13,110 --> 02:06:13,200
you

2144
02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:15,570
Adam Curry: go medivac Very
good. In Gouda.

2145
02:06:15,870 --> 02:06:21,150
John C Dvorak: Gouda, Gouda.
Gouda well good is it's a cheese

2146
02:06:21,180 --> 02:06:24,240
does one of the cheese cities
series Holland cheese and

2147
02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:27,270
candles? So I didn't know the
candles part.

2148
02:06:27,300 --> 02:06:28,710
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, big
candles.

2149
02:06:29,940 --> 02:06:33,720
John C Dvorak: Luke Olson
Alexandria Virginia. Gadget

2150
02:06:33,720 --> 02:06:37,320
freak 10 in Western Springs,
Illinois. Alexandria, river de

2151
02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:40,200
hoe and Gig Harbor, Washington.
Corey Bennett in Denver,

2152
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:43,740
Colorado, Scott lavender in
Montgomery, Texas. Ryan Sant 10

2153
02:06:43,740 --> 02:06:49,680
gel, Santangelo San tangelos
Selita, California. Thanks for

2154
02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:55,740
inventing podcasts he writes.
You're welcome to send money

2155
02:06:55,770 --> 02:06:58,410
you're watching me getting
credit for something finally.

2156
02:06:58,740 --> 02:07:00,510
Adam Curry: Where's my Nobel
Peace Prize?

2157
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:05,460
John C Dvorak: It's coming. No,
it's not dead some Peabody. Oh,

2158
02:07:05,460 --> 02:07:08,580
Oswald and Lindsey date where
I'm getting confused. Lithia

2159
02:07:08,580 --> 02:07:15,060
Florida Jo Fletcher Scaife in
Wilston, North Dakota, Chris

2160
02:07:15,060 --> 02:07:18,180
Cowan in Austin, Texas man
Andrew Guzik, Sir Andrew in

2161
02:07:18,180 --> 02:07:23,100
Greensboro, North Carolina,
Fabian bebber In Winnington.

2162
02:07:23,190 --> 02:07:28,080
Deutschland All right. Matt
Illingworth in Montclair, New

2163
02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:28,470
Jersey.

2164
02:07:28,500 --> 02:07:32,310
Adam Curry: Montclair. Robert.
My old town. Really? Yeah, my

2165
02:07:32,310 --> 02:07:32,850
clay Roger

2166
02:07:32,850 --> 02:07:35,370
John C Dvorak: Robert case and
mill spring North Carolina

2167
02:07:35,370 --> 02:07:40,410
Julian Robinson Aptos.
California Matt Dyess mills.

2168
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:45,780
Schinsky. in Hawthorne,
California. Nicholas Rooij in

2169
02:07:45,780 --> 02:07:51,720
Harpers Ferry, West Virginia,
Daniel DuBois in Bath, Michigan,

2170
02:07:52,020 --> 02:07:56,370
Melissa Reeve in Winchester,
another Winchester and in

2171
02:07:56,370 --> 02:08:01,770
Virginia to get together, Robert
Britton and forced in Georgia.

2172
02:08:03,660 --> 02:08:04,890
You need to de douching

2173
02:08:06,750 --> 02:08:08,610
Adam Curry: you've been de
deuced

2174
02:08:09,780 --> 02:08:13,470
John C Dvorak: Paul Terra Nova
Terra Nova in Webster,

2175
02:08:13,470 --> 02:08:18,090
Massachusetts. Leanne Shipley
and Covington, Washington sir

2176
02:08:18,090 --> 02:08:22,380
spied the mighty in Marietta,
Georgia and last but not least

2177
02:08:22,380 --> 02:08:26,220
is surgery wing and Roth in
Saugus, California want to thank

2178
02:08:26,220 --> 02:08:30,960
these people for making show
1590 to the reality that it is

2179
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:31,740
before you

2180
02:08:31,889 --> 02:08:33,899
Adam Curry: thank you everybody
and especially thank you for the

2181
02:08:33,899 --> 02:08:37,919
little notes you put in those
donations under the executive

2182
02:08:37,919 --> 02:08:40,499
and Associate Executive producer
level. Sometimes we read them

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out loud but we read them all
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Thank you. We really appreciate
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grateful for you many of you do
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Unknown: a thank you all for
supporting

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Adam Curry: episode 1590

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Unknown: Our formula is this. We
go out we get people in the

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mouth

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Adam Curry: and I think we
needed a Karma there for someone

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somewhere

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very short today anonymous
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For your knighthood and Timothy
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And Rachel says Happy Birthday
to Jason we say happy birthday

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to everybody here I'm happy to
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02:10:05,160 --> 02:10:09,870
podcast in the universe. And we
keep our title change in

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abeyance, but first we have two
nights and there oh, oh. Oh,

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that's a nice one. Alrighty then
them, actually yes two nights

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02:10:21,810 --> 02:10:24,720
two nights here we go. We have
David up on the podium who will

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02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:29,670
become a Baronet in a moment but
first he has to become a sir is

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02:10:29,670 --> 02:10:33,420
very confusing. And Lee All
right. So both of you are hereby

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pronounce the cated as night to
the no agenda roundtable. Sir

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David, and cervix on the long
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which is very tasty. Also on
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got ghastly sakeI vodka, Manila
bong hits and bourbon, sparkling

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cider and escorts ginger ale and
journals. We got breast milk and

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pablum, but of course, it's
always the mutton in me that has

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to compete with the Vermox today
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can just gawk at him and say boy
I want one of those one of these

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days thank you so much again for
supporting the best podcast in

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02:11:23,250 --> 02:11:23,970
the universe

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Unknown: don't want to be

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02:11:32,220 --> 02:11:35,760
Adam Curry: alright so if I
understand correctly, Sir David

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02:11:35,820 --> 02:11:39,540
becomes a Baronet and Sir Tar
Heel also becomes a Baronet

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02:11:39,540 --> 02:11:43,170
today thanks for their
additional $1,000 in support of

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02:11:43,170 --> 02:11:45,930
the no agenda show we really
appreciate it thank you all so

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02:11:45,930 --> 02:11:47,760
much. No one said

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02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:58,320
no agenda meetups.com is the
website that is completely

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02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:02,070
producer run our night, sir
Daniel. He organizes that Mimi

2233
02:12:02,070 --> 02:12:05,370
does the back office stuff with
Jay and we really have a

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02:12:05,370 --> 02:12:08,430
beautiful beautiful collection
of groups people getting

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02:12:08,430 --> 02:12:12,000
together all over the world to
complete your no agenda

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02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:14,880
experience. You don't just
listen to the podcast. You don't

2237
02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:17,760
just go out and hit people in
the mouth you don't just troll

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02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:21,450
around on no agenda social no
you have to go to a meet up for

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02:12:21,450 --> 02:12:25,680
full connection which brings you
complete protection. Let's check

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out the Richmond meetup report

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02:12:27,690 --> 02:12:31,170
Unknown: in the morning. This is
Dame trail chicken at the ITM

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02:12:31,170 --> 02:12:32,070
Richmond meetup.

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02:12:32,100 --> 02:12:36,930
Hi this is Catherine at the
legend beer brewing company

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02:12:36,930 --> 02:12:41,370
having a beautiful day with
beautiful breezes beautiful

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02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:42,450
autumn weather

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02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:47,850
ITM This is Marshall from Lucas
Hill, Virginia. Let's go Brandon

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02:12:48,150 --> 02:12:52,170
ITM. This is Marshall Bennett
Jr. God bless the Queen man. I'm

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02:12:52,170 --> 02:12:52,800
going to bed

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02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:58,350
happy in Virginia. Trains good
planes bad

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02:12:58,380 --> 02:13:02,100
and this is Tom Starkweather.
Torquay in the morning. This is

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02:13:02,100 --> 02:13:06,780
a OTG and on and I'm wondering
why was traffic email sent? Hi,

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02:13:06,780 --> 02:13:07,680
this is Sarah and

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02:13:07,680 --> 02:13:12,270
life is a scam. This is Rob from
Richmond in the morning. Sorry

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02:13:12,270 --> 02:13:16,470
Steve Domenico. John. I got a
chance to hey it's Roseland in

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02:13:16,470 --> 02:13:21,450
King George and I'll see you
next month Tina bear shrunk and

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02:13:21,450 --> 02:13:23,220
Megillah shrunk I can Boyce

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02:13:23,250 --> 02:13:26,940
says Christopher in King George
were your newest executive

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02:13:26,940 --> 02:13:28,470
producers thanks a lot guys.

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02:13:30,060 --> 02:13:33,210
Adam Curry: I love those big
meet up but you can't get much

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02:13:33,210 --> 02:13:34,860
bigger than the indie people.

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02:13:34,890 --> 02:13:38,970
Unknown: Hello this is Dave
Maria and Sir Mark so very happy

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02:13:38,970 --> 02:13:42,630
to have all these no agenda
aficionados in this beautiful

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02:13:42,630 --> 02:13:46,710
day with liquid sun sign and
lots of other libations ITM

2264
02:13:46,770 --> 02:13:49,620
in the Morning John Nana Miss
zemli need to work on your

2265
02:13:49,620 --> 02:13:52,140
Italian accent in the morning
John.

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02:13:52,530 --> 02:13:53,520
This is Bruce here.

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02:13:53,550 --> 02:13:57,960
I'm syrup of the maple. Skip to
rugby game watching the World

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02:13:57,960 --> 02:14:00,450
Cup to come to this meetup and
identify who it is.

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02:14:00,540 --> 02:14:03,120
Hi, this is Cindy from Carmel in
the morning.

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02:14:03,120 --> 02:14:04,950
Thank you for your courage and
who cares

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02:14:04,950 --> 02:14:07,500
about rugby in the morning. This
is Dame Trinity

2272
02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:11,640
and Sir PVR streaking and there
is no evidence that there's a

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02:14:11,640 --> 02:14:14,940
preference between Adams and
Jones. Sink.

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02:14:17,700 --> 02:14:19,320
Nailed it sir

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02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:19,890
Betty

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02:14:19,950 --> 02:14:25,170
in the morning Dame Swanee and
I'm married to the guy next door

2277
02:14:25,230 --> 02:14:27,330
and we never had a fight by John

2278
02:14:27,330 --> 02:14:29,730
and Adam is high up in
Zionsville. It's a first

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02:14:29,730 --> 02:14:30,960
meet up thank you for your
courage

2280
02:14:30,990 --> 02:14:33,570
in the mornings out anatomists
sort of afraid of the dark moon

2281
02:14:34,920 --> 02:14:37,020
in the morning, this is Amy from
Westfield

2282
02:14:37,080 --> 02:14:40,500
and morning Adam drama Susannah
fortwayne There are no Iron Man

2283
02:14:40,500 --> 02:14:43,380
level orky tents but hey, in the
morning, have a great day. Good

2284
02:14:43,380 --> 02:14:46,140
morning. This is for them
Arizona in ski this party is

2285
02:14:46,140 --> 02:14:49,020
garbage. There's no cocaine.
There's no male brother.

2286
02:14:49,500 --> 02:14:50,250
I'm out of there.

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02:14:54,210 --> 02:14:58,320
Adam Curry: Yo man, I want to go
to these indie meetups. We have

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02:14:58,320 --> 02:15:01,770
to go I have to continue on I
have to get this together. Those

2289
02:15:01,770 --> 02:15:04,920
people are insane. Don't you
want to be a part of a group

2290
02:15:04,920 --> 02:15:08,580
like that diverse, different
languages, different

2291
02:15:08,580 --> 02:15:11,820
backgrounds, different ages and
all hanging out together and

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02:15:11,820 --> 02:15:16,320
they do it all the time in
India. Wow, beautiful. Coming up

2293
02:15:16,350 --> 02:15:19,710
meetup wise. We've got a quite a
list for today actually. The two

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02:15:19,710 --> 02:15:23,640
hot Tucson Meetup is four
o'clock in Tucson, Arizona. The

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02:15:23,640 --> 02:15:27,360
Sandy brigade Third Thursday
five o'clock in Post Falls Idaho

2296
02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:31,170
at Selkirk Abby, the thirsty
Third Thursday that is edge

2297
02:15:31,170 --> 02:15:34,020
tavern Charlotte, North
Carolina. Totally not a drug

2298
02:15:34,020 --> 02:15:37,200
cartel or spook meetup takes
place at seven o'clock at

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02:15:37,200 --> 02:15:41,190
Rosarito Beach Hotel. That's in
Rosarito, Mexico Sir Brian in

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02:15:41,190 --> 02:15:43,740
London is there hope people show
up he's very pumped about

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02:15:43,740 --> 02:15:47,760
meeting people. We have Friday
the suds and sanity meet up UK

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02:15:47,970 --> 02:15:51,510
ochrony Brewing Company in
Greensboro, Georgia, we have the

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02:15:51,510 --> 02:15:54,660
got the goat karma producers
local 33 The return of serve

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02:15:54,660 --> 02:15:59,010
Vicksburg and Cornerstone pub
and prime Wyoming Minnesota on

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02:15:59,010 --> 02:16:02,220
Saturday Motorworks meet up at
Motorworks brewery Bradenton,

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02:16:02,220 --> 02:16:05,910
Florida, the Connecticut meet up
to 30 at the truck bar in Hagen

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02:16:05,910 --> 02:16:09,900
in Connecticut. boots on the
ground to 33 the garden as San

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02:16:09,900 --> 02:16:15,240
Diego California Star Chamber of
Idaho El Mariachi in Star Idaho

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02:16:15,240 --> 02:16:18,690
that'll be at three o'clock at
the Green Bay meet up Jill's bar

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02:16:18,690 --> 02:16:21,060
Green Bay, Wisconsin heard about
that earlier in the donation

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02:16:21,060 --> 02:16:26,730
segment. And the Sonoma Wine Oh
country country meetup 2.03 33

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02:16:26,730 --> 02:16:31,260
at iron and Vine and Santa Rosa
California and also on Saturday

2313
02:16:31,260 --> 02:16:34,980
the flight of the no agenda
Denver 44 trains good plains bad

2314
02:16:34,980 --> 02:16:39,060
333 Santa Fe cafe in Fulton
California Leo Bravo of course

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02:16:39,060 --> 02:16:43,020
organizing and finally on the
list here we have the off cycle

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02:16:43,020 --> 02:16:47,100
meet up for special guests are
Sean of Slovakia. Five o'clock

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02:16:47,100 --> 02:16:50,820
at Lyon Hall Arlington Virginia
sounds like a spook neat up to

2318
02:16:50,820 --> 02:16:53,670
me, Sir William of West
Pennsyltucky we'll be organizing

2319
02:16:53,670 --> 02:16:56,520
those are just some of the many
no agenda meetups go to no

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02:16:56,520 --> 02:17:00,180
agenda meetup.com to find all of
them if you can't find one near

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02:17:00,180 --> 02:17:02,970
you. You must live in a very
desolate place but you can

2322
02:17:02,970 --> 02:17:13,440
always start one it's easy to go
hang out with Jason days you

2323
02:17:14,610 --> 02:17:19,050
won't be triggered you want to
be

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02:17:19,740 --> 02:17:22,740
Unknown: everybody feels the
same.

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02:17:24,030 --> 02:17:30,660
Adam Curry: It's like okay, I
have actually have four I have

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02:17:30,660 --> 02:17:35,640
four I have four Oh, you want to
go first or one of mine just go

2327
02:17:35,640 --> 02:17:38,340
first you got your four lined up
one of them failed for some

2328
02:17:38,340 --> 02:17:42,450
reason why did that one fail one
of them failed I don't have

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02:17:42,450 --> 02:17:50,070
three of this that's I could not
resist not clipping that for an

2330
02:17:50,070 --> 02:17:55,050
ISO we have this one okay. Wow.
Always a seed man.

2331
02:17:55,079 --> 02:17:55,799
John C Dvorak: We used that

2332
02:17:55,799 --> 02:17:59,519
Adam Curry: before No that's
it's new as far as what's his

2333
02:17:59,519 --> 02:18:04,499
name? This is a seed man i So
seed man Well, maybe this one

2334
02:18:04,529 --> 02:18:06,779
Unknown: it's almost mind
blowing.

2335
02:18:07,769 --> 02:18:09,989
John C Dvorak: Who has a good
one. Okay, I've got starting

2336
02:18:09,989 --> 02:18:13,319
with unfortunately I didn't have
it so I got you show us show

2337
02:18:13,319 --> 02:18:14,489
Texas things.

2338
02:18:14,969 --> 02:18:20,519
Adam Curry: Things in Texas
stock No, no I veto that. That's

2339
02:18:20,519 --> 02:18:22,829
just not going to happen. No,
no.

2340
02:18:24,059 --> 02:18:28,439
John C Dvorak: That's go with I
get the vast wasteland. vast

2341
02:18:28,439 --> 02:18:29,249
wasteland.

2342
02:18:29,970 --> 02:18:31,170
Adam Curry: Yeah, decent.

2343
02:18:31,230 --> 02:18:35,850
John C Dvorak: Decent is not as
good as Amy Scott outrageous. Is

2344
02:18:35,850 --> 02:18:43,230
so outrageous. And last is
Destroy. Destroy New York City.

2345
02:18:45,689 --> 02:18:48,569
Adam Curry: Although funny, no.
I think we go with Amy. Amy was

2346
02:18:48,569 --> 02:18:51,869
good. Yeah, you don't get Amy
saying that kind of stuff. Let

2347
02:18:51,869 --> 02:18:55,169
me hear her again. Let me hear
just to make sure. It's almost

2348
02:18:55,230 --> 02:18:56,940
Unknown: mind blowing mind.

2349
02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:59,400
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
definitely a good that we got.

2350
02:18:59,460 --> 02:19:03,030
So I went and took your advice
and watch the morning show.

2351
02:19:03,360 --> 02:19:06,150
Adam Curry: Oh my god. How bad
was it?

2352
02:19:07,410 --> 02:19:09,630
John C Dvorak: Well, I didn't
think was as bad as you thought

2353
02:19:09,630 --> 02:19:10,110
it was.

2354
02:19:10,170 --> 02:19:12,210
Adam Curry: Are you kidding me?
The writing was horrible.

2355
02:19:12,270 --> 02:19:15,570
Jennifer Aniston has ruined her
face with whatever she's done.

2356
02:19:15,720 --> 02:19:20,220
And then they bring in Jon Hamm.
It's atrocious.

2357
02:19:20,369 --> 02:19:23,159
John C Dvorak: It's well, it's
desperation. But I did get three

2358
02:19:23,159 --> 02:19:24,299
clips. Oh, no.

2359
02:19:24,749 --> 02:19:28,019
Adam Curry: Wait, this was not
the If I had known you were

2360
02:19:28,019 --> 02:19:32,369
gonna get a clip I would have.
Here's my problem. To do a

2361
02:19:32,369 --> 02:19:36,869
television show about a news
program that's doing news about

2362
02:19:36,869 --> 02:19:41,699
what is currently news ie
Ukraine. COVID, et cetera, is

2363
02:19:41,699 --> 02:19:46,559
very difficult and they fail as
far as I'm concerned. They fail.

2364
02:19:47,159 --> 02:19:49,589
John C Dvorak: Well, I would say
you it's hard to do that sort of

2365
02:19:49,589 --> 02:19:52,259
thing because it's not
Evergreen. And what and these

2366
02:19:52,259 --> 02:19:55,349
things get old fast and don't go
into distribution. Nobody wants

2367
02:19:55,349 --> 02:19:56,909
to watch them after you know,

2368
02:19:56,940 --> 02:19:58,980
Adam Curry: Apple should be
ashamed of themselves and I'm

2369
02:19:59,160 --> 02:20:00,810
and I'm no longer Team Jen.

2370
02:20:01,829 --> 02:20:05,099
John C Dvorak: So I didn't know
you ever were well, did you

2371
02:20:05,099 --> 02:20:06,899
either team or team Taylor?

2372
02:20:07,259 --> 02:20:10,559
Adam Curry: No. Yeah, of course,
of course was Tata team Tata.

2373
02:20:11,039 --> 02:20:12,959
John C Dvorak: So there's a
couple so I got some clips

2374
02:20:12,959 --> 02:20:15,299
knowing what you were you were
complaining about the woke

2375
02:20:15,299 --> 02:20:19,409
writing and I got three clips
that kind of epitomize it and

2376
02:20:19,409 --> 02:20:22,589
let's start with this m s are
these three clips.

2377
02:20:22,620 --> 02:20:25,410
Adam Curry: Ah, this is this is
what you all you see, you don't

2378
02:20:25,410 --> 02:20:28,320
want me peeking on your clips.
So you just had this call it M

2379
02:20:28,320 --> 02:20:29,820
S, so he doesn't like listen to

2380
02:20:29,820 --> 02:20:31,890
John C Dvorak: a morning show
him so it makes sense now, sure.

2381
02:20:31,920 --> 02:20:34,200
Here's jab, jab six.

2382
02:20:35,670 --> 02:20:40,680
Unknown: On January 6 2021, our
democracy hung in the balance,

2383
02:20:41,640 --> 02:20:45,570
watched on television screens,
as violence broke out at our

2384
02:20:45,570 --> 02:20:50,310
most revered institution.
Bradley Jackson didn't watch.

2385
02:20:51,090 --> 02:20:54,030
Bradley was there. Oh, yeah. She
was there.

2386
02:20:54,090 --> 02:20:57,030
Adam Curry: She was reporting on
her cell phone from inside the

2387
02:20:57,030 --> 02:20:57,630
Capitol.

2388
02:20:58,860 --> 02:21:01,710
John C Dvorak: She's not in
jail, then. I can't believe

2389
02:21:01,710 --> 02:21:05,940
you're doing this. So here's
another one. This is abortion

2390
02:21:05,940 --> 02:21:06,480
talk.

2391
02:21:07,380 --> 02:21:10,680
Unknown: You should try to get
some sleep out of 120 abortion

2392
02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:13,080
clinics in Texas. How many do
you think are fake?

2393
02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:16,410
I don't know, like 30.

2394
02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:22,050
According to this article
100 100 clinics routinely lie to

2395
02:21:22,050 --> 02:21:24,750
pregnant women about how far
along they are so that they

2396
02:21:24,750 --> 02:21:28,020
think they're too late to
terminate the pregnancy. I mean,

2397
02:21:28,020 --> 02:21:30,300
there'll be three weeks along
and they'll tell them that

2398
02:21:30,300 --> 02:21:33,690
they're eight weeks because the
cut off is six weeks. Wow.

2399
02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:35,130
seconds fucked up.

2400
02:21:35,130 --> 02:21:39,210
That's I mean, it's really
horrifying. Yeah, but where's

2401
02:21:39,210 --> 02:21:42,060
this coming from? Right now?
Your Are you spending three

2402
02:21:42,060 --> 02:21:43,920
timbers like this? It's insane.

2403
02:21:44,850 --> 02:21:47,010
just pisses me off. You go to
your doctor, you don't want to

2404
02:21:47,010 --> 02:21:48,960
be lied to I agree. We all agree

2405
02:21:48,990 --> 02:21:53,370
things in Texas stock lots of
things, but maybe we just like,

2406
02:21:53,580 --> 02:21:55,410
I don't know, look forward to
the barbecue.

2407
02:21:55,560 --> 02:21:59,460
Adam Curry: So they're on a
private jet. While this dialogue

2408
02:21:59,460 --> 02:22:03,060
is taking place, and I have
never heard this do you think

2409
02:22:03,060 --> 02:22:04,830
they completely made this up?

2410
02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:09,930
John C Dvorak: Good. B is a
fictional show. Yeah, but I

2411
02:22:09,930 --> 02:22:13,350
mean, they definitely did.
Aniston I think used to live in

2412
02:22:13,350 --> 02:22:17,520
Austin, but this anti Texas
stuff. I thought the anti Texas

2413
02:22:17,520 --> 02:22:20,250
stuff finished off with this
particular my last clip. I'm not

2414
02:22:20,250 --> 02:22:23,370
going to bore people stiff with
this. But this is just too much

2415
02:22:23,370 --> 02:22:28,410
for me. This is the one that
it's an eye roller. This is the

2416
02:22:28,410 --> 02:22:30,300
Texas heat clip

2417
02:22:34,860 --> 02:22:38,310
Unknown: to the meaning hotter
March.

2418
02:22:41,160 --> 02:22:42,660
Adam Curry: I couldn't hear it.
I remember

2419
02:22:42,660 --> 02:22:45,660
John C Dvorak: Okay, when she
comes out of the plane in March,

2420
02:22:45,660 --> 02:22:48,870
she says Oh, could it be any
hotter? It's not that hot in

2421
02:22:48,870 --> 02:22:53,190
Texas in March but Okay. Could
it be any hotter? And the guy

2422
02:22:53,190 --> 02:22:56,880
says was it Corsica? Do you
write the music's too loud? The

2423
02:22:58,830 --> 02:23:02,250
Adam Curry: future? Yeah,
climate change. It is the show

2424
02:23:02,250 --> 02:23:05,520
is atrocious. They shouldn't
have even done a second series.

2425
02:23:06,030 --> 02:23:10,200
I liked it. I know the second
was iffy. Oh, the second one I

2426
02:23:10,200 --> 02:23:12,930
couldn't watch. So this was
after the show talk. This is how

2427
02:23:12,960 --> 02:23:17,010
this is how John and I have
nothing to discuss. Where I say

2428
02:23:17,010 --> 02:23:19,230
hey, I have watched the morning
show. It's crap. And John says

2429
02:23:19,230 --> 02:23:21,990
oh, yeah, watch the Barbie
movie. Hey, guess what? I didn't

2430
02:23:21,990 --> 02:23:24,630
watch John. I did not watch the
Barbie movie.

2431
02:23:25,830 --> 02:23:27,840
John C Dvorak: I'll bring you a
clip for the Barbie movie on the

2432
02:23:27,840 --> 02:23:30,990
Sunday show. I because I'm
Barbie movie. Okay, the Barbie

2433
02:23:30,990 --> 02:23:33,480
movie and I couldn't get past
nine minutes of it.

2434
02:23:33,510 --> 02:23:35,610
Adam Curry: That's what you
said. So that that is automatic

2435
02:23:35,610 --> 02:23:38,400
disqualification. We're not
going to watch it here in Texas

2436
02:23:38,610 --> 02:23:41,280
John C Dvorak: is but I will say
this and I've said it to you

2437
02:23:41,310 --> 02:23:48,390
before. Art Director and set
designers. Oscars. Yeah, sure.

2438
02:23:48,780 --> 02:23:53,250
Of course. They really went out
of their way. But the whole

2439
02:23:53,250 --> 02:23:56,010
thing starts off it pretty much
tells you at the beginning.

2440
02:23:56,010 --> 02:24:00,570
That's a commercial for Mattel.
And it just plugs every Mattel

2441
02:24:00,570 --> 02:24:05,700
product they have and it's just,
it's lame. It's a lame movie.

2442
02:24:05,700 --> 02:24:05,820
Who

2443
02:24:05,820 --> 02:24:07,860
Adam Curry: was it? They said
Ryan? What's his name?

2444
02:24:08,850 --> 02:24:11,130
John C Dvorak: Brian. I know
Ryan's Yes. One of these guys.

2445
02:24:11,130 --> 02:24:12,090
Gosling is

2446
02:24:12,090 --> 02:24:14,130
Adam Curry: it? No, it's Ryan
Reynolds. What's his name?

2447
02:24:14,460 --> 02:24:16,800
John C Dvorak: I think my No,
no, it's one of the it's one of

2448
02:24:16,800 --> 02:24:18,480
the Ryan's a Ryan

2449
02:24:18,510 --> 02:24:20,970
Adam Curry: you know what would
have made it a winner should

2450
02:24:20,970 --> 02:24:25,890
have gone was the Lenski. Lenski
as Ken would have been good. I

2451
02:24:25,890 --> 02:24:27,000
would have Gosling I think it

2452
02:24:27,090 --> 02:24:30,030
John C Dvorak: was short list
because only five were five two.

2453
02:24:31,050 --> 02:24:31,560
Ah,

2454
02:24:31,590 --> 02:24:34,110
Adam Curry: all right. I have
something of more interest

2455
02:24:34,110 --> 02:24:36,600
because it's time it's time.
Here we go.

2456
02:24:37,500 --> 02:24:42,420
Unknown: Oh in preparedness for
potential cyber pandemic. Clorox

2457
02:24:42,450 --> 02:24:46,020
says a cyber attack has left the
company facing supply shortages.

2458
02:24:46,050 --> 02:24:48,690
According to a government
filing. The company detected a

2459
02:24:48,690 --> 02:24:52,980
breach last month. The source
remains unclear. Clorox Clorox

2460
02:24:52,980 --> 02:24:56,310
has not said which of its brands
are being affected, and the

2461
02:24:56,310 --> 02:25:00,570
recent cyber attack against MGM
Resorts is reported. costing the

2462
02:25:00,570 --> 02:25:04,350
company up to $8 million per
day. Reports say some

2463
02:25:04,350 --> 02:25:07,440
operations, including the
payment of gambling winnings are

2464
02:25:07,440 --> 02:25:08,910
still being affected yesterday.

2465
02:25:09,150 --> 02:25:11,490
Adam Curry: What do you think
it'd be next? What what next?

2466
02:25:11,790 --> 02:25:15,180
Now we're affecting people's
lives have always said, You've

2467
02:25:15,180 --> 02:25:19,260
got to infect Facebook, or x or
something like that. You've got

2468
02:25:19,260 --> 02:25:21,630
to infect something that people
will tick tock.

2469
02:25:22,530 --> 02:25:25,080
John C Dvorak: We're assuming
that these are criminals, and

2470
02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:28,770
they're doing it to make money.
Yeah, it's pretty hard to top

2471
02:25:28,770 --> 02:25:30,180
doing it to the casinos.

2472
02:25:30,210 --> 02:25:34,890
Adam Curry: How about Clorox
though? And what is what does

2473
02:25:34,890 --> 02:25:35,820
that even mean?

2474
02:25:35,850 --> 02:25:39,000
John C Dvorak: If it affects the
Clorox thing sounds less like a

2475
02:25:39,030 --> 02:25:41,910
ransomware thing. Then there's
just some sort of screw up

2476
02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:43,410
Adam Curry: now some broke down

2477
02:25:44,550 --> 02:25:47,010
John C Dvorak: something but
they've always been pretty savvy

2478
02:25:47,010 --> 02:25:49,980
technology wise. So I don't know
what happened at Clorox. And

2479
02:25:50,400 --> 02:25:54,210
it's not like, I don't know. I
don't get the Clorox thing

2480
02:25:54,210 --> 02:25:54,660
either.

2481
02:25:55,289 --> 02:25:58,829
Adam Curry: Here's a weird
report. Very weird report.

2482
02:25:59,550 --> 02:26:02,580
John C Dvorak: I have the
weirdest story that I don't know

2483
02:26:02,580 --> 02:26:06,060
if you know about it about the
Canada versus India thing.

2484
02:26:06,840 --> 02:26:09,690
Adam Curry: Yes, I've read about
it. I have read about it. I

2485
02:26:09,690 --> 02:26:13,110
don't know much about it. So I'm
glad. I'm glad you have here's a

2486
02:26:13,110 --> 02:26:16,410
clip. Okay, Canada versus India.
odd story.

2487
02:26:16,439 --> 02:26:19,799
Unknown: The situation between
India and Canada is becoming

2488
02:26:19,799 --> 02:26:24,059
more tense. India is now telling
its citizens to practice utmost

2489
02:26:24,059 --> 02:26:27,659
caution. When traveling to
America's neighbor to the north.

2490
02:26:27,809 --> 02:26:31,319
New Delhi is telling Indians to
be cautious because of growing

2491
02:26:31,319 --> 02:26:34,919
anti India activities and
politically condoned hate crimes

2492
02:26:34,919 --> 02:26:39,299
in Canada. The Canadian public
safety Minister responded saying

2493
02:26:39,299 --> 02:26:42,359
Canada is just conducting
inappropriate criminal

2494
02:26:42,359 --> 02:26:46,529
investigation. That country is
investigating if India was

2495
02:26:46,529 --> 02:26:50,879
involved in an assassination in
June, a leading Sikh activist

2496
02:26:50,879 --> 02:26:55,109
and Canadian citizen was gunned
down in British Columbia. He was

2497
02:26:55,109 --> 02:26:59,249
working on an unofficial
referendum vote and dia has long

2498
02:26:59,249 --> 02:27:02,939
accused him of links to
terrorism, just as we both India

2499
02:27:02,939 --> 02:27:06,569
and Canada expelled diplomats
from their respective countries.

2500
02:27:07,980 --> 02:27:10,290
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that's
weird.

2501
02:27:11,160 --> 02:27:13,020
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And they
got all they're all bent out of

2502
02:27:13,020 --> 02:27:15,120
shape. And the diplomats have
been kicked out of both

2503
02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:20,190
countries. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but
you know, I don't think you can

2504
02:27:20,190 --> 02:27:24,150
have I mean, we don't like it
when some foreign agent comes

2505
02:27:24,150 --> 02:27:26,010
over and shoes whether they're
allowed.

2506
02:27:26,070 --> 02:27:29,160
Adam Curry: No, it's not done in
diplomatic circles. It's it

2507
02:27:29,160 --> 02:27:31,050
shouldn't be done. It's
considered improper.

2508
02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:34,860
John C Dvorak: Now the Russians
poisoning people in England, you

2509
02:27:34,860 --> 02:27:36,480
know, these these expats?

2510
02:27:36,600 --> 02:27:40,350
Adam Curry: I do like what, what
what Trudeau was on now,

2511
02:27:40,770 --> 02:27:45,570
because, you know, of course, in
the socialist country of Conoco

2512
02:27:45,570 --> 02:27:50,370
Stan. Tab, they have all kinds
of problems. They have the same

2513
02:27:50,370 --> 02:27:54,300
inflation issues we have and
then we have to blame somebody.

2514
02:27:54,300 --> 02:27:58,650
So Trudeau decided to blame the
supermarket's. It's not okay,

2515
02:27:58,770 --> 02:28:00,120
it's not okay. He's our

2516
02:28:00,150 --> 02:28:03,630
Unknown: biggest grocery stores
are making record profits, while

2517
02:28:03,630 --> 02:28:07,470
Canadians are struggling to put
food on the table. So Minister

2518
02:28:07,470 --> 02:28:11,310
champagne will be calling on the
heads of large grocers to come

2519
02:28:11,310 --> 02:28:16,680
to Ottawa with a plan to address
the rising cost of food. And we

2520
02:28:16,680 --> 02:28:20,220
expect to hear from them by
Thanksgiving, on what their plan

2521
02:28:20,220 --> 02:28:28,200
is to stabilize prices. Yeah.
stabilize prices.

2522
02:28:28,860 --> 02:28:29,220
And let

2523
02:28:29,220 --> 02:28:30,390
me be very clear,

2524
02:28:30,840 --> 02:28:35,490
if their plan doesn't provide
real relief for the middle class

2525
02:28:35,490 --> 02:28:39,600
and people working hard to join
it, then we will take further

2526
02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:44,040
action and we are not ruling
anything out including tax

2527
02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:44,580
measures.

2528
02:28:48,540 --> 02:28:51,090
Adam Curry: So won't that just
jack the prices up even further?

2529
02:28:51,090 --> 02:28:51,330
Yeah,

2530
02:28:51,360 --> 02:28:53,940
John C Dvorak: it makes it
worse. This is price control is

2531
02:28:53,940 --> 02:28:58,050
this typical? Price controls
never work and especially in

2532
02:28:58,050 --> 02:29:01,680
this in a capitalist system. It
makes it screws things up

2533
02:29:01,680 --> 02:29:05,250
royally and discusses the big
screw up. Did you notice? Notice

2534
02:29:05,250 --> 02:29:09,450
this thing he's introduced a new
term he was complaining about

2535
02:29:09,450 --> 02:29:12,510
some protests going on about you
know, especially about the

2536
02:29:13,110 --> 02:29:15,480
people purchasing them in the
schools

2537
02:29:15,510 --> 02:29:18,000
Adam Curry: yes the million
million person March Yes.

2538
02:29:18,030 --> 02:29:20,370
John C Dvorak: And so he says
this these people are just

2539
02:29:20,370 --> 02:29:25,080
transphobic yeah, oh yeah.
homophobic and homophobic and a

2540
02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:30,990
new term? Which I think is just
giving it away for what he is by

2541
02:29:30,990 --> 02:29:40,200
phobic. No. Yes by Bly phobic by
phobic by phobic EBRT you buy

2542
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:46,710
you buy by phobic battle maybe
you know he's he's a bisexual.

2543
02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:47,640
Yeah leader. I

2544
02:29:47,640 --> 02:29:49,020
Adam Curry: know what he is.
Yes,

2545
02:29:49,080 --> 02:29:53,730
John C Dvorak: it were if we if
that and he so he's decided to

2546
02:29:53,730 --> 02:29:59,220
make by phobia some sort of a
thing. Was not back to

2547
02:29:59,220 --> 02:30:01,860
Adam Curry: the grocery store.
Chicago has taken it one step

2548
02:30:01,860 --> 02:30:04,890
further though, since you know
everyone's leaves there's like

2549
02:30:04,890 --> 02:30:08,190
San Francisco all stores are
leaving Chicago no one wants to

2550
02:30:08,190 --> 02:30:12,300
operate there. It's a mess is to
get robbed. So now Chicago Mayor

2551
02:30:12,300 --> 02:30:15,990
Brandon Johnson will explore the
possibility of a city owned

2552
02:30:15,990 --> 02:30:17,040
grocery store.

2553
02:30:17,760 --> 02:30:20,580
John C Dvorak: So pull up to
talk about socialist yes,

2554
02:30:20,610 --> 02:30:24,150
Adam Curry: if we're better than
Canada now. A better stronger

2555
02:30:24,150 --> 02:30:26,850
safer future is one where our
youth in our communities have

2556
02:30:26,850 --> 02:30:29,610
access to the tools and
resources they need to thrive.

2557
02:30:30,300 --> 02:30:31,050
My administration,

2558
02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:34,770
John C Dvorak: people know how
hard it is to run. Grocery

2559
02:30:34,770 --> 02:30:38,430
stores is one of the hardest
it's like, not as bad as the

2560
02:30:38,430 --> 02:30:43,890
restaurant business but pretty
close. Have you run us razor

2561
02:30:43,890 --> 02:30:45,300
thin margins?

2562
02:30:45,360 --> 02:30:47,040
Adam Curry: You know what food
lines? That's what you're gonna

2563
02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:50,040
get food lines. People standing
in line for toilet paper in

2564
02:30:50,070 --> 02:30:52,200
John C Dvorak: Chicago? Yeah.
Right.

2565
02:30:53,880 --> 02:30:58,680
Adam Curry: This is not right.
It's not right.

2566
02:30:59,880 --> 02:31:04,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah, man. Vermox
Vermox. Yes. It was at the round

2567
02:31:04,980 --> 02:31:10,110
table. Yes. Vermox. It's an it's
an anti worm medication prevents

2568
02:31:10,110 --> 02:31:14,130
newly hatched insect larva,
worms from growing or

2569
02:31:14,130 --> 02:31:16,380
multiplying in your body, your
fault.

2570
02:31:18,300 --> 02:31:23,160
Adam Curry: I don't know if you
saw this. But now, Sam Backman.

2571
02:31:23,160 --> 02:31:28,920
Fried's parents are being sued
for millions in misappropriated

2572
02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:33,570
funds. Have you seen his mom
coming out of the courthouse?

2573
02:31:34,320 --> 02:31:36,780
John C Dvorak: Oh, my God didn't
see anything recently. But she's

2574
02:31:36,900 --> 02:31:37,260
she's

2575
02:31:37,859 --> 02:31:45,689
Adam Curry: just just do fried
courthouse and look at her. So

2576
02:31:45,779 --> 02:31:51,269
as it turns out, they coerce
this, this kid and I'll just

2577
02:31:51,269 --> 02:31:56,789
call him a kid and an autist
into sending them 10s of

2578
02:31:56,789 --> 02:32:02,609
millions of dollars, putting
them on salary as advisors. His

2579
02:32:02,609 --> 02:32:05,129
dad even sent in the old all
it's all coming out in Discovery

2580
02:32:05,129 --> 02:32:09,629
now his and these are the to
Stanford economic professors.

2581
02:32:10,019 --> 02:32:13,649
Yeah, you know it just to show
you how corrupt this whole thing

2582
02:32:13,649 --> 02:32:18,959
is. And she then funneled
millions of dollars to the Mind

2583
02:32:18,959 --> 02:32:24,749
the Gap. Super PAC, which she's
created.

2584
02:32:25,470 --> 02:32:27,180
John C Dvorak: And it looks like
Keith Richards

2585
02:32:28,710 --> 02:32:31,500
Adam Curry: Yes, she does look
like Keith Richards. You're

2586
02:32:31,500 --> 02:32:40,770
right. That's being that's being
unkind to Keith. They funneled

2587
02:32:40,770 --> 02:32:47,730
over $20 million to Democrats.
So direct connection for Direct

2588
02:32:47,730 --> 02:32:53,610
Connection from FTX through the
parents down to the Silicon

2589
02:32:53,610 --> 02:32:57,510
Valley, super PAC, which
includes all the typical

2590
02:32:57,510 --> 02:33:01,710
douchebags. I mean, these people
should all go to jail for this.

2591
02:33:01,740 --> 02:33:05,580
I mean, I agree that they
should. It really is it really

2592
02:33:05,580 --> 02:33:12,660
is egregious what they've done.
See, Oh, yes. Well, I do have a

2593
02:33:12,660 --> 02:33:15,180
couple of things that I'd like
to mention. Actually, I have a

2594
02:33:15,180 --> 02:33:20,220
couple clips. First, let's do
some political stuff. Bobby, the

2595
02:33:20,220 --> 02:33:24,840
app back in the news, had a
fundraiser $2.2 million in one

2596
02:33:24,840 --> 02:33:28,590
night. Not bad. Who was the
superstar performer on deck?

2597
02:33:28,740 --> 02:33:29,640
Eric Clapton.

2598
02:33:29,670 --> 02:33:33,300
Unknown: Hi, Robert. Hi,
everybody. I just want to say

2599
02:33:33,360 --> 02:33:38,100
I'm looking forward to seeing
you soon. At this gig. full

2600
02:33:39,180 --> 02:33:45,990
truth, unity, peace and
posterity with the candidate. I

2601
02:33:45,990 --> 02:33:47,430
see you soon. Bye.

2602
02:33:47,460 --> 02:33:49,080
Adam Curry: Yeah. Go Kennedy
team.

2603
02:33:49,950 --> 02:33:53,550
John C Dvorak: He was virus
vaccine injured? Yes. We know,

2604
02:33:53,940 --> 02:33:58,110
almost lost his ability to play
the guitar. Did he actually last

2605
02:33:58,500 --> 02:34:00,000
a while but he got it back.

2606
02:34:00,810 --> 02:34:04,590
Adam Curry: And Ted Cruz.
Normally, I wouldn't play

2607
02:34:04,590 --> 02:34:08,010
anything from the Ted Cruz
podcast. But he laid out a

2608
02:34:08,010 --> 02:34:13,260
couple of possibilities. Should
Joe not be available? And here's

2609
02:34:13,260 --> 02:34:15,720
the first is these are short
clips, but they're worth

2610
02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:16,380
listening to.

2611
02:34:16,410 --> 02:34:19,500
John C Dvorak: So there are two
scenarios in which Joe Biden is

2612
02:34:19,500 --> 02:34:22,530
not the nominee, I believe,
number one, the powers that be

2613
02:34:22,530 --> 02:34:26,340
in the Democrat Party convinced
Joe Biden to pull out if that

2614
02:34:26,340 --> 02:34:30,030
happens, I think it's a free for
all. I think a bunch of people

2615
02:34:30,030 --> 02:34:34,590
get in. I think the top four
Democrats who get in are Kamala

2616
02:34:34,590 --> 02:34:38,610
Harris, Pete Buttigieg, Gavin
Newsom, and Elizabeth Warren.

2617
02:34:38,610 --> 02:34:41,370
And I think all four of them get
in I think Gretchen Whitmer

2618
02:34:41,370 --> 02:34:43,770
probably gets in as well. I
think there are some others that

2619
02:34:43,770 --> 02:34:46,320
get it and I think you probably
get five to 10 candidates who

2620
02:34:46,320 --> 02:34:50,670
jump in the instant Biden is out
now in my view, the top tier or

2621
02:34:50,670 --> 02:34:54,420
the first four I listed. And I
think in that primary, I believe

2622
02:34:54,420 --> 02:34:56,220
Elizabeth Warren wins that
primary.

2623
02:34:56,340 --> 02:34:59,100
Adam Curry: interesting take.
Let's listen to the Elizabeth

2624
02:34:59,100 --> 02:35:01,830
Warren Gambit. According to
Senator Cruz,

2625
02:35:01,860 --> 02:35:04,980
John C Dvorak: that's scenario
one. Elizabeth Warren comes out

2626
02:35:04,980 --> 02:35:08,910
of a wide open real Democrat
primary now thing about it is

2627
02:35:08,910 --> 02:35:13,050
you're running out of time. So
I'll give you some some

2628
02:35:13,050 --> 02:35:17,370
deadlines. October 16, is the
filing deadline for major party

2629
02:35:17,370 --> 02:35:21,210
candidates in Nevada. November
10, is the filing deadline for

2630
02:35:21,210 --> 02:35:25,020
major party candidates out
Alabama. November 14, is the

2631
02:35:25,020 --> 02:35:28,830
filing deadline for major party
candidates in Arkansas. So we're

2632
02:35:28,830 --> 02:35:31,710
starting to get to filing
deadlines where it becomes

2633
02:35:31,710 --> 02:35:35,250
exceedingly difficult to get on
the ballot. And so if this

2634
02:35:35,250 --> 02:35:37,500
scenario happens, it has to
happen fast.

2635
02:35:38,370 --> 02:35:40,290
Adam Curry: Well, even Ted
doesn't think that's going to

2636
02:35:40,290 --> 02:35:41,100
happen. There's a

2637
02:35:41,100 --> 02:35:45,840
John C Dvorak: second scenario.
Here it comes in this scenario,

2638
02:35:45,840 --> 02:35:49,350
I think is more likely and a
heck of a lot more dangerous,

2639
02:35:49,380 --> 02:35:53,940
which is fast forward to next
year. Fast forward to the

2640
02:35:53,940 --> 02:35:56,940
Democrat National Convention.
It's going to be in Chicago,

2641
02:35:56,940 --> 02:36:01,050
Illinois, and it is August 19.
Through 22nd, we get to August

2642
02:36:01,050 --> 02:36:05,580
of next year. And number one,
Biden's mental diminishment has

2643
02:36:05,580 --> 02:36:08,580
gotten even worse, and it
becomes obvious to anyone that

2644
02:36:08,580 --> 02:36:12,810
he can't find his shoes and
Democrats decide okay, all of

2645
02:36:12,810 --> 02:36:16,410
this downside is really worrying
us, then the convention is the

2646
02:36:16,410 --> 02:36:20,310
opportunity to parachute someone
in, you parachute someone in by

2647
02:36:20,310 --> 02:36:25,080
having some some story that for
health reasons, Biden's not able

2648
02:36:25,080 --> 02:36:28,170
to continue. What did they do,
then? Well, the natural thing to

2649
02:36:28,170 --> 02:36:32,100
say would be okay, it'll be one
of those top four. And here's

2650
02:36:32,100 --> 02:36:35,790
the problem. Whoever they pick
is a problem. They pick Kamala

2651
02:36:35,790 --> 02:36:38,430
Harris. She's the Vice
President, in some ways, the

2652
02:36:38,430 --> 02:36:41,820
natural choice. All of the
downsides of Kamala Harris make

2653
02:36:41,820 --> 02:36:46,080
that a really dangerous choice.
Yes. If they pick Gavin Newsom,

2654
02:36:46,230 --> 02:36:49,410
that makes some California
Democrats happy. The problem is

2655
02:36:49,410 --> 02:36:51,780
you're replacing an African
American woman to the Democrat

2656
02:36:51,780 --> 02:36:55,290
party with a very rich white
guy. You want to talk about a

2657
02:36:55,290 --> 02:36:58,950
recipe for discontent. That's a
big problem. They could go with

2658
02:36:58,950 --> 02:37:03,180
Pete Buttigieg, another white
guy, rich liberals would really

2659
02:37:03,180 --> 02:37:06,900
like Pete Buttigieg. And a lot
of the Democrat donors are gay

2660
02:37:06,900 --> 02:37:09,690
and lesbian. That's a major
chunk of the funding stream for

2661
02:37:09,690 --> 02:37:12,960
a Democrat candidate. But you
have the same problem. If you

2662
02:37:12,960 --> 02:37:17,310
jettison an African American
woman as Vice President, for a

2663
02:37:17,310 --> 02:37:21,060
white guy in the Democratic
primary, you're really asking

2664
02:37:21,060 --> 02:37:24,660
for trouble and option for us is
Elizabeth Warren. But you have

2665
02:37:24,660 --> 02:37:28,380
the same everyone else who
doesn't get it. I think anyone

2666
02:37:28,380 --> 02:37:32,160
they go with as a coronation.
It's different than an open

2667
02:37:32,160 --> 02:37:35,790
primary, where Warren wins
because primary voters vote for

2668
02:37:35,790 --> 02:37:40,020
that gives an element of
legitimacy that the people who

2669
02:37:40,020 --> 02:37:44,640
don't win can live with, if it's
just the kingmakers, saying, No,

2670
02:37:44,940 --> 02:37:49,680
we pick you. Whoever doesn't get
picked. Everyone else is pissed.

2671
02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:53,730
So here's the scenario that I
think is perhaps most likely and

2672
02:37:53,730 --> 02:37:57,780
most dangerous in August of
2020. For the Democrat

2673
02:37:57,780 --> 02:38:02,280
kingmakers jettison Joe Biden
and parachute in Michelle Obama.

2674
02:38:03,150 --> 02:38:07,830
Yeah, brother, you take a shaggy
dog story you pulled off.

2675
02:38:08,250 --> 02:38:12,690
Michelle Obama. Number one, you
don't infuriate African American

2676
02:38:12,690 --> 02:38:15,930
women, which is a critical part
of the constituency that

2677
02:38:15,930 --> 02:38:19,650
Democrats are relying on to win.
But number two, you avoid the

2678
02:38:19,650 --> 02:38:22,770
problem for you pick from any of
the four the other three are

2679
02:38:22,770 --> 02:38:26,430
pissed because they're all to
some extent, peers, their

2680
02:38:26,430 --> 02:38:29,430
rivals, they're all jab and
knives at each other. Michelle

2681
02:38:29,430 --> 02:38:33,420
Obama because she was first lady
has the ability to kind of

2682
02:38:33,480 --> 02:38:37,110
parachute in above all four and
say, Hey, we're not picking

2683
02:38:37,110 --> 02:38:40,440
among any of you. You guys can
all fight it out next time.

2684
02:38:40,440 --> 02:38:43,800
You're all going to be on the
same level. We're coming. This

2685
02:38:43,800 --> 02:38:47,520
is the Obama's saving the day.
And I think in terms of a

2686
02:38:47,520 --> 02:38:52,620
solution that unifies Democrats,
there ain't nothing like that.

2687
02:38:53,250 --> 02:38:56,670
Adam Curry: He's not a dummy. So
I'm just

2688
02:38:58,200 --> 02:39:00,030
John C Dvorak: gonna do a Texas
water.

2689
02:39:02,790 --> 02:39:05,610
Adam Curry: It would be fun if
you said Big Mike 2024 But he

2690
02:39:05,610 --> 02:39:10,860
won't do that. Is that may
explain why they're just letting

2691
02:39:11,130 --> 02:39:13,860
good old Joe hobble along.

2692
02:39:14,250 --> 02:39:16,800
John C Dvorak: Keep moving.
Definitely. Joe did put a poison

2693
02:39:16,800 --> 02:39:18,780
pill in place with Kamla.
Harris.

2694
02:39:18,810 --> 02:39:21,300
Adam Curry: Yes, very smart.
Very astute.

2695
02:39:21,630 --> 02:39:23,430
John C Dvorak: Very well done.

2696
02:39:23,670 --> 02:39:30,360
Adam Curry: Very astute. Just
astute. We have a little bit of

2697
02:39:30,360 --> 02:39:36,180
insight into the AI meeting. You
know, the the smartest people on

2698
02:39:36,180 --> 02:39:40,800
the planet. all got together in
a secret meeting with the Senate

2699
02:39:40,950 --> 02:39:44,790
with Schumer Warner. And we had
a we had a chat and we're going

2700
02:39:44,790 --> 02:39:50,280
to save the world. Thank you,
Elon. Thank you. Sundar. Thank

2701
02:39:50,280 --> 02:39:51,270
you. Who else do we have?

2702
02:39:52,470 --> 02:39:54,090
John C Dvorak: Gates was there.

2703
02:39:54,420 --> 02:39:56,100
Adam Curry: Bill? Thank you.
Thank you. I

2704
02:39:56,130 --> 02:39:59,910
John C Dvorak: think I think
Cook was there. Tom Collins

2705
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:05,070
Adam Curry: I think I don't
think he was there. I don't

2706
02:40:05,070 --> 02:40:09,960
think he has an AI play. He
probably feels above those guys.

2707
02:40:10,050 --> 02:40:11,610
Anyway, Mark Warner, that's

2708
02:40:11,610 --> 02:40:13,140
John C Dvorak: probably true no
matter what.

2709
02:40:13,350 --> 02:40:16,770
Adam Curry: Mark Warner is a
Democrat Senator from Virginia,

2710
02:40:17,070 --> 02:40:20,010
at worst, and it's kind of what
we expected. We

2711
02:40:20,010 --> 02:40:22,380
Unknown: turn now to Virginia
Democrat Mark Warner. He is the

2712
02:40:22,380 --> 02:40:24,840
chairman of the Senate
Intelligence Committee. Great to

2713
02:40:24,840 --> 02:40:28,980
have you here. You have been
very active on artificial

2714
02:40:29,010 --> 02:40:31,260
intelligence. And we talked
about that I'm so

2715
02:40:31,260 --> 02:40:33,630
Adam Curry: active. This
morning, I was active on

2716
02:40:33,630 --> 02:40:36,270
artificial intelligence, I was
running around in circles like

2717
02:40:36,330 --> 02:40:37,860
AIs.

2718
02:40:38,190 --> 02:40:41,550
Unknown: Back in January,
Microsoft just announced a few

2719
02:40:41,550 --> 02:40:45,270
days ago that China has a new
capability to automatically

2720
02:40:45,270 --> 02:40:49,380
generate images for use and
influence operations to mimic

2721
02:40:49,560 --> 02:40:53,100
American voters across the
political spectrum and create

2722
02:40:53,100 --> 02:40:56,640
controversy along racial,
economic and ideological lines.

2723
02:40:57,330 --> 02:41:01,560
How much of a risk is this rush
to our upcoming election?

2724
02:41:01,710 --> 02:41:02,820
It's an enormous risk,

2725
02:41:02,850 --> 02:41:06,000
Adam Curry: no enormous risk.
Oh, my God, China's go ape is

2726
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:07,290
not Russia. It's China.

2727
02:41:07,470 --> 02:41:10,140
Unknown: And artificial
intelligence. I've spent as much

2728
02:41:10,140 --> 02:41:12,600
time on this, I think is any
member of the Senate. No, which

2729
02:41:12,600 --> 02:41:12,870
means

2730
02:41:12,870 --> 02:41:14,250
Adam Curry: you don't know crap.
That

2731
02:41:14,250 --> 02:41:16,530
John C Dvorak: means you can't
figure out how to make this

2732
02:41:16,530 --> 02:41:17,160
thing work.

2733
02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:19,530
Adam Curry: It doesn't work.
It's no good.

2734
02:41:19,770 --> 02:41:22,590
Unknown: And I never spent
something where the more time I

2735
02:41:22,590 --> 02:41:25,800
spend in certain ways, the more
confused I get got well, that

2736
02:41:28,080 --> 02:41:29,640
Adam Curry: that we believe the
whole

2737
02:41:29,670 --> 02:41:32,010
Unknown: economics around these
large language models, which

2738
02:41:32,010 --> 02:41:35,100
used to be who had the most data
who had the most compute power

2739
02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:38,460
would when that fundamentally
changed after Facebook released

2740
02:41:38,460 --> 02:41:40,920
its so called llama model into
the wild.

2741
02:41:41,400 --> 02:41:46,590
Adam Curry: So he's saying he's
the truth is here. Facebook

2742
02:41:46,590 --> 02:41:50,250
released the llama models into
the wild. And I actually don't

2743
02:41:50,250 --> 02:41:53,130
know why they did it. But I'm
appreciative because now even I

2744
02:41:53,130 --> 02:41:56,910
can sit at home and can see that
it doesn't work. It's no good.

2745
02:41:57,060 --> 02:42:00,180
It's completely bogus. Yeah,
maybe you can have a bigger

2746
02:42:00,180 --> 02:42:03,810
computer get the answer faster.
But it's still the same models.

2747
02:42:03,840 --> 02:42:06,000
It's not impressive. That
fundamentally

2748
02:42:06,000 --> 02:42:08,940
Unknown: changed after Facebook
released its so called llama

2749
02:42:08,940 --> 02:42:12,900
model into the wild. In the
spring. We just had a major

2750
02:42:12,900 --> 02:42:15,300
session leader Schumer put
together had the kind of the

2751
02:42:15,300 --> 02:42:19,560
who's who in the room. And what
what I'm concerned about is even

2752
02:42:19,560 --> 02:42:24,810
the the AI leaders who say they
want rules guardrails. I'm

2753
02:42:24,810 --> 02:42:28,380
concerned that when you actually
put words on paper, will those

2754
02:42:28,410 --> 02:42:31,890
major tech companies support
that because you've seen we in

2755
02:42:31,890 --> 02:42:35,760
social media have done zero? Now
in terms of China, China is a

2756
02:42:35,760 --> 02:42:39,780
major player in AI. And where I
think we ought to start is by

2757
02:42:39,810 --> 02:42:43,830
getting rid of tick tock where
AI tools whether it comes from

2758
02:42:43,830 --> 02:42:48,420
China or domestically could have
the most immediate effect would

2759
02:42:48,420 --> 02:42:51,390
be the public space in our
elections right which Microsoft

2760
02:42:51,390 --> 02:42:54,930
has decided to legislate Hear me
out on this but the other area

2761
02:42:54,930 --> 02:42:59,160
beyond elections is Faith in Our
public markets. These same tools

2762
02:42:59,160 --> 02:43:02,730
could completely disrupt the
confidence in our public markets

2763
02:43:02,730 --> 02:43:06,450
by using the same deep fake tool
so I believe we ought to start

2764
02:43:07,500 --> 02:43:08,880
alliances What's that?

2765
02:43:10,470 --> 02:43:13,410
John C Dvorak: A change from
simple AI to deep fake

2766
02:43:13,830 --> 02:43:17,160
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, this
this is why it's there all over

2767
02:43:17,160 --> 02:43:20,760
the map. So it's, they'll lose
trust in our elections because

2768
02:43:20,760 --> 02:43:24,570
of deep fakes. Okay, that'll
really work. I mean, oh my god,

2769
02:43:24,570 --> 02:43:29,430
we'll be we'll be fooled for
eight seconds. It's like Yes,

2770
02:43:29,430 --> 02:43:32,970
like that. I mean, it really
eight seconds. Oh, but then our

2771
02:43:32,970 --> 02:43:37,410
public markets. What are we
talking about now? What is AI?

2772
02:43:37,440 --> 02:43:41,790
The public markets are already a
they're all algos all trading is

2773
02:43:41,790 --> 02:43:45,300
algorithmic, there's almost the
poor saps who are on stock

2774
02:43:45,300 --> 02:43:49,950
twits. They're fighting against
algorithms. This already like

2775
02:43:49,950 --> 02:43:51,450
this. I don't know what he's
talking about.

2776
02:43:51,539 --> 02:43:54,689
Unknown: Between the capitalist
and the small d Democrats. We

2777
02:43:54,689 --> 02:43:57,419
might at least get guardrails
coming in next year with the

2778
02:43:57,419 --> 02:44:00,179
elections and with the concern
about our markets, when I hear

2779
02:44:00,180 --> 02:44:02,610
Adam Curry: guardrails of the
markets thing that must just be

2780
02:44:02,610 --> 02:44:04,890
a red herring when I hear
guardrails, that means we want

2781
02:44:04,890 --> 02:44:06,930
to control what is being said.

2782
02:44:07,380 --> 02:44:11,040
John C Dvorak: We want to run it
during this censorship. thing.

2783
02:44:11,040 --> 02:44:11,820
Yes, we want

2784
02:44:11,820 --> 02:44:14,160
Adam Curry: to control what
Google results are. We want to

2785
02:44:14,160 --> 02:44:16,320
control but social media shows

2786
02:44:16,349 --> 02:44:18,809
Unknown: you're concerned not
just about spooking, you know,

2787
02:44:19,259 --> 02:44:22,619
the stock market, we're talking
about misleading people going

2788
02:44:22,619 --> 02:44:24,509
into an election spooking the

2789
02:44:24,510 --> 02:44:28,290
Adam Curry: stock. This is so
weird. In the same breath,

2790
02:44:28,290 --> 02:44:35,310
spooking the stock market. Wait
a minute. Is this is this a

2791
02:44:35,310 --> 02:44:35,940
signal

2792
02:44:37,110 --> 02:44:39,510
John C Dvorak: is that the stock
market's gonna get spooked

2793
02:44:39,600 --> 02:44:41,760
Adam Curry: that there's a crash
coming for some reason, and then

2794
02:44:41,760 --> 02:44:43,860
they can blame it on China AI.

2795
02:44:45,420 --> 02:44:46,950
John C Dvorak: It's gonna be
hard to pull off.

2796
02:44:47,160 --> 02:44:49,680
Unknown: We're talking about
misleading people going into an

2797
02:44:49,680 --> 02:44:52,380
election. Congress isn't going
to legislate ahead of the

2798
02:44:52,380 --> 02:44:55,380
election or that person is the
most difficult thing we've ever

2799
02:44:55,410 --> 02:44:59,730
this is why the notion of trying
to solve at all the bias

2800
02:44:59,730 --> 02:45:03,030
question To the whole question
around deep fakes the questions

2801
02:45:03,060 --> 02:45:03,540
around

2802
02:45:03,660 --> 02:45:07,890
Adam Curry: what questions are
there around deep fakes? At what

2803
02:45:07,890 --> 02:45:12,090
point has a deep fake actually
caused market disruption or an

2804
02:45:12,090 --> 02:45:18,150
election? Issue? Can you name
one? I have, I can't No, of

2805
02:45:18,150 --> 02:45:19,230
course not what's called

2806
02:45:19,230 --> 02:45:21,420
Unknown: hallucination where you
get answers that have no

2807
02:45:21,420 --> 02:45:23,310
relationship to what the
question was asked.

2808
02:45:23,460 --> 02:45:26,280
Adam Curry: It means what the
hallucination you can call who's

2809
02:45:26,280 --> 02:45:28,320
nation we just call it suck.

2810
02:45:28,740 --> 02:45:30,540
Unknown: But we ought to at
least start with some

2811
02:45:30,540 --> 02:45:34,530
guardrails, around trust in our
public elections and trust in

2812
02:45:34,530 --> 02:45:38,100
our public markets trust, there
are things we can move before

2813
02:45:38,100 --> 02:45:41,430
elections. I think it'll be
bipartisan. Let's start on that

2814
02:45:41,460 --> 02:45:44,310
framing point. I think we can
all agree that could be huge

2815
02:45:44,310 --> 02:45:46,770
disruption, and both of those
areas. And that's where I'm

2816
02:45:46,770 --> 02:45:47,490
focused my time.

2817
02:45:48,449 --> 02:45:52,019
Adam Curry: So so then the
interest of CBS, then the

2818
02:45:52,019 --> 02:45:55,079
interview goes in a slightly
different direction, which I

2819
02:45:55,079 --> 02:45:58,499
think may show some of the
concern from this Democrat.

2820
02:45:58,499 --> 02:45:58,979
Senator,

2821
02:45:59,880 --> 02:46:02,910
Unknown: you may have heard our
CVs polling there at the top of

2822
02:46:02,910 --> 02:46:06,210
the program. And one of the data
points I want to show you here

2823
02:46:06,210 --> 02:46:09,330
says when people compare their
finances now to how they were

2824
02:46:09,330 --> 02:46:13,500
before the pandemic, by two to
one, they say they're worse, not

2825
02:46:13,500 --> 02:46:16,770
better. And when they feel
worse, they tell us they're

2826
02:46:16,770 --> 02:46:19,470
voting for Donald Trump. Whoa.

2827
02:46:19,679 --> 02:46:22,409
Adam Curry: So let's just say I
don't know, like the markets are

2828
02:46:22,409 --> 02:46:25,169
going down and China use the
deep fakes and then that would

2829
02:46:25,169 --> 02:46:27,689
get Trump to be elected or
something. What are we doing

2830
02:46:27,689 --> 02:46:28,289
here, lady?

2831
02:46:28,439 --> 02:46:31,739
Unknown: How can President Biden
win over those voters?

2832
02:46:32,130 --> 02:46:36,060
Well, I think we've seen from
President Biden's actual record,

2833
02:46:36,720 --> 02:46:39,990
record amounts of job growth
coming again, after COVID. We've

2834
02:46:39,990 --> 02:46:44,970
seen major legislation there now
law in infrastructure and the so

2835
02:46:44,970 --> 02:46:48,960
called chip spill and transition
in our energy economy. And most

2836
02:46:48,960 --> 02:46:52,110
of that has only been about 10
cents on every dollar spent out.

2837
02:46:52,110 --> 02:46:55,200
So I think the positive effects
of that will really continue to

2838
02:46:55,200 --> 02:46:58,860
penetrate. I feel that that you
talk to I listen, I think there

2839
02:46:58,860 --> 02:47:02,640
is a general feeling. Oh my
gosh, everybody seems to be at

2840
02:47:02,640 --> 02:47:05,370
each other's throats here in
Washington. We, you know, the

2841
02:47:05,370 --> 02:47:07,380
notion that we're going to
potentially go into a government

2842
02:47:07,380 --> 02:47:10,200
shutdown, Mike Turner and I
worked very closely together.

2843
02:47:10,440 --> 02:47:13,470
But I do think I wish the House
leadership would be spending a

2844
02:47:13,470 --> 02:47:16,080
little more time on what would
happen with a government

2845
02:47:16,080 --> 02:47:19,260
shutdown which makes us look bad
around the world. And frankly,

2846
02:47:19,260 --> 02:47:21,780
in a state like mine in
Virginia, where we have so many

2847
02:47:21,780 --> 02:47:23,850
government workers government
contractors, it will be a

2848
02:47:23,850 --> 02:47:25,800
disaster net blah, blah, blah,
blah,

2849
02:47:25,800 --> 02:47:28,680
Adam Curry: blah. I just I just
thought it was interesting to go

2850
02:47:29,070 --> 02:47:32,550
from the AI into when when the
mark when when people's when the

2851
02:47:32,550 --> 02:47:34,650
economy is bad people vote for
Trump.

2852
02:47:35,760 --> 02:47:37,410
John C Dvorak: That was very
strange.

2853
02:47:37,470 --> 02:47:38,490
Adam Curry: And then weird.
That's

2854
02:47:38,940 --> 02:47:42,120
John C Dvorak: CBSs telling you
maybe that's a code for Okay, we

2855
02:47:42,120 --> 02:47:46,950
got Trump's been read and he's
one of us now we can we can

2856
02:47:46,950 --> 02:47:48,420
safely put him in office.

2857
02:47:49,080 --> 02:47:50,100
Adam Curry: He's good to go.

2858
02:47:51,000 --> 02:47:54,450
John C Dvorak: Good as possible.
Oh, man,

2859
02:47:54,869 --> 02:47:57,989
Adam Curry: I have an important
update. No, call it a comeback.

2860
02:47:57,989 --> 02:48:01,349
That's right. COVID is back. But
is it COVID? What is it? Can we

2861
02:48:01,349 --> 02:48:04,079
tell what it is? Oh, NBC help us
when it

2862
02:48:04,080 --> 02:48:06,750
Unknown: comes to COVID. Doctors
say it's becoming harder to

2863
02:48:06,750 --> 02:48:09,030
determine whether someone
actually has it.

2864
02:48:11,490 --> 02:48:13,140
John C Dvorak: 1000s of these
packs.

2865
02:48:15,630 --> 02:48:18,450
Unknown: When it comes to COVID
Doctors say it's becoming harder

2866
02:48:18,450 --> 02:48:21,390
to determine whether someone
actually has it that's because

2867
02:48:21,390 --> 02:48:24,510
the virus symptoms often overlap
with allergies or cold or other

2868
02:48:24,510 --> 02:48:25,680
respiratory illnesses.

2869
02:48:26,700 --> 02:48:29,070
Adam Curry: What happened to the
test? What happened to the test

2870
02:48:29,130 --> 02:48:31,920
with doctors can't tell if you
have COVID anymore?

2871
02:48:31,950 --> 02:48:34,470
Unknown: Yes. Now is NBC News
health reporter ARIA Bendix

2872
02:48:34,500 --> 02:48:38,010
Aria, I do recall earlier in the
pandemic, when people got COVID

2873
02:48:38,010 --> 02:48:41,760
It was you're losing your sense
of smell, right and taste. What

2874
02:48:41,760 --> 02:48:43,080
are the symptoms like now?

2875
02:48:43,170 --> 02:48:45,510
Yeah, so the most common
symptoms are the ones that we

2876
02:48:45,510 --> 02:48:48,150
commonly associate with other
respiratory illnesses. So that

2877
02:48:48,150 --> 02:48:52,230
might be sore throat,
congestion, sneezing, some

2878
02:48:52,230 --> 02:48:53,550
people are reporting a very
faint.

2879
02:48:54,990 --> 02:48:59,100
John C Dvorak: You remember the
early early days? The early

2880
02:48:59,100 --> 02:49:01,710
days, right? Right at the
beginning when we were on this

2881
02:49:02,580 --> 02:49:07,020
dose symptoms were never COVID
Oh, no, it's not you're not

2882
02:49:07,020 --> 02:49:09,420
gonna get the sniffles? It's not
gonna be like that.

2883
02:49:09,449 --> 02:49:11,399
Adam Curry: No, you'll
immediately have to go on a

2884
02:49:11,399 --> 02:49:15,989
ventilator is you must be
gasping for air.

2885
02:49:16,590 --> 02:49:19,140
John C Dvorak: No sneezing if
it's if you sneeze that's not

2886
02:49:19,140 --> 02:49:23,370
COVID it's definitely a sign of
not COVID I wish to get some of

2887
02:49:23,370 --> 02:49:26,490
those old clips I had them and
it especially put together some

2888
02:49:26,490 --> 02:49:30,870
fluid some of those kind of
fascinating how this is changed

2889
02:49:30,870 --> 02:49:34,470
now it's Bucha has reverted to
what it is common cold.

2890
02:49:35,130 --> 02:49:40,020
Adam Curry: Excuse me. Sorry.
Let's continue with this clip.

2891
02:49:40,020 --> 02:49:42,900
Because this is fascinating.
Doctors can't figure out what

2892
02:49:42,900 --> 02:49:44,430
this is. It's not COVID

2893
02:49:44,460 --> 02:49:47,610
Unknown: Oh, it's congestion.
Sneezing some people are

2894
02:49:47,610 --> 02:49:50,610
reporting a very faint sore
throat others say they feel some

2895
02:49:50,610 --> 02:49:53,940
scratching or burning akin to a
strep throat. And then a smaller

2896
02:49:53,940 --> 02:49:56,640
number of people reporting you
know your headaches, chills,

2897
02:49:56,640 --> 02:49:59,970
muscle aches, maybe a post nasal
drip, that can lead to a bit of

2898
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:03,510
Adam Curry: Cough isn't that
cold or flu or a cold.

2899
02:50:03,540 --> 02:50:05,700
Unknown: But as you mentioned,
that dry cough we were seeing at

2900
02:50:05,700 --> 02:50:08,130
the beginning of the pandemic,
that loss of taste and smell,

2901
02:50:08,280 --> 02:50:10,350
even some of the
gastrointestinal issues we saw

2902
02:50:10,350 --> 02:50:12,540
early on, those have largely
gone away.

2903
02:50:12,570 --> 02:50:14,100
Yeah. BME beyond those things.
Is there

2904
02:50:14,100 --> 02:50:17,160
anything else that's different
about the virus now than it was

2905
02:50:17,160 --> 02:50:18,330
in the early days? Yeah, it's

2906
02:50:18,360 --> 02:50:19,050
Adam Curry: cold.

2907
02:50:19,080 --> 02:50:20,880
Unknown: Yeah, I know, we hear
about all these different

2908
02:50:20,880 --> 02:50:23,490
strains and mutations. And it's
really important for scientists

2909
02:50:23,490 --> 02:50:25,830
to pay attention to those split
from the public health

2910
02:50:25,830 --> 02:50:28,080
perspective, we are dealing with
the same variant that we have

2911
02:50:28,080 --> 02:50:31,170
since late 2021. That's the
Omicron variant that hasn't

2912
02:50:31,170 --> 02:50:34,740
gotten milder over time. But our
response to that variant has

2913
02:50:34,740 --> 02:50:37,470
changed, our immunity has
changed. Most people now have

2914
02:50:37,470 --> 02:50:39,450
what's called hybrid immunity,
which is immunity from

2915
02:50:39,480 --> 02:50:42,540
vaccination and a natural
infection. So when they're

2916
02:50:42,540 --> 02:50:44,940
exposed to that virus, their
bodies know how to fight it off,

2917
02:50:44,940 --> 02:50:47,490
and it results in a milder
illness. I should mention,

2918
02:50:47,490 --> 02:50:50,340
though, that that immunity does
wane so for older adults in

2919
02:50:50,340 --> 02:50:53,040
particular, it's important to
get these updated booster shots

2920
02:50:53,040 --> 02:50:54,810
as false so they can top off
that protects

2921
02:50:55,830 --> 02:50:57,840
point especially for the
immunocompromised, any

2922
02:50:57,840 --> 02:51:00,240
vulnerable communities to really
take the protections you need to

2923
02:51:00,240 --> 02:51:03,210
stay safe. Yeah, absolutely. All
right. Bendix. Thanks so much.

2924
02:51:03,210 --> 02:51:04,290
Appreciate it. Thank you.

2925
02:51:04,530 --> 02:51:05,340
Thanks for watching.

2926
02:51:05,400 --> 02:51:09,630
Adam Curry: So you know, it's,
this is not COVID This is no

2927
02:51:09,630 --> 02:51:14,760
vid. They're lying. That just
lying. Isn't this No. COVID This

2928
02:51:14,760 --> 02:51:19,560
is a cold. Get a shot. Oh, and
by the way, people are going to

2929
02:51:19,560 --> 02:51:22,020
CVS and all the you know,
getting their shot, and all of a

2930
02:51:22,020 --> 02:51:24,870
sudden they go oh, here's a
$200. Bill what it was going to

2931
02:51:24,870 --> 02:51:28,380
be free. Yeah, surprise,
surprise. The insurance

2932
02:51:28,380 --> 02:51:32,220
companies like Nah, we're not.
We're not going to reimburse you

2933
02:51:32,220 --> 02:51:39,750
for that. Now. What a scam.
Absolute scam.

2934
02:51:39,780 --> 02:51:44,400
John C Dvorak: Well, I can go
out with to homeless clips. Oh,

2935
02:51:44,430 --> 02:51:47,220
that's good. Or let's skip that.
I'm gonna move those to Sunday.

2936
02:51:47,220 --> 02:51:50,610
I want to play this. This is
interesting. This is one of the

2937
02:51:50,610 --> 02:51:53,760
things Biden's managed to pull
off. No Democrats done it

2938
02:51:53,760 --> 02:51:58,890
before. They're not. Republicans
don't dare even try. And this is

2939
02:51:58,890 --> 02:52:01,290
the climate core thing. He's
come up with

2940
02:52:02,130 --> 02:52:05,910
Adam Curry: 20 20,000 kids now,
isn't it? What is this being

2941
02:52:05,910 --> 02:52:06,870
compared to?

2942
02:52:07,769 --> 02:52:10,709
John C Dvorak: This is Civilian
Conservation Corps during the

2943
02:52:10,739 --> 02:52:15,479
Depression? This is a depression
idea. The Works project

2944
02:52:15,479 --> 02:52:19,349
administration during the
depression like the New Deal, is

2945
02:52:19,349 --> 02:52:22,769
this the new dive? Yes, totally
new deal stuff. Now. I have

2946
02:52:22,769 --> 02:52:26,669
talked about why don't they do
this. I've said this for not on

2947
02:52:26,669 --> 02:52:28,469
the show so much because it
doesn't come up in the

2948
02:52:28,469 --> 02:52:33,419
conversation until now. But it's
always been the following

2949
02:52:33,419 --> 02:52:38,579
because I brought this up in in
discussions. No, no, no, no, we

2950
02:52:38,579 --> 02:52:42,089
can't do this. You This is not
something you can do. You can't

2951
02:52:42,089 --> 02:52:45,119
do these government programs
anymore, like Civilian

2952
02:52:45,119 --> 02:52:51,029
Conservation Corps, because it
takes union jobs away. That's

2953
02:52:51,269 --> 02:52:54,329
always the argument. No, no, no,
you can't do this taking real

2954
02:52:54,329 --> 02:52:58,619
paying union jobs away from real
pay union members. This is no

2955
02:52:58,619 --> 02:53:02,309
good. You can't do it. And it's
always been verboten. And now

2956
02:53:02,309 --> 02:53:04,049
all of a sudden we got this.

2957
02:53:04,320 --> 02:53:06,600
Unknown: The Biden
administration is announcing a

2958
02:53:06,600 --> 02:53:10,290
major climate initiative. It
will be the first of its kind in

2959
02:53:10,290 --> 02:53:13,140
the nation to train young
Americans for jobs in the

2960
02:53:13,140 --> 02:53:14,640
renewable energy industry.

2961
02:53:14,760 --> 02:53:17,160
The White House on Wednesday
announced the creation of

2962
02:53:17,160 --> 02:53:20,280
American Climate Corp. It's a
workforce initiative that will

2963
02:53:20,280 --> 02:53:23,520
pay 20,000 Young Americans to
get training for jobs in the

2964
02:53:23,520 --> 02:53:26,580
climate sector. The new core
will support a wide range of

2965
02:53:26,580 --> 02:53:29,670
jobs, including restoring
coastal wetlands, forest

2966
02:53:29,670 --> 02:53:32,400
management to help fight
wildfires and building out

2967
02:53:32,400 --> 02:53:36,120
renewable energy projects. no
prior experience is required to

2968
02:53:36,120 --> 02:53:39,270
apply for most programs. The
White House said in a statement

2969
02:53:39,300 --> 02:53:42,690
that the aims include quotes,
conserving our land and waters

2970
02:53:42,750 --> 02:53:46,230
bolstering community resilience,
advancing environmental justice,

2971
02:53:46,260 --> 02:53:49,290
deploying clean energy,
implementing energy efficient

2972
02:53:49,290 --> 02:53:52,710
technologies and tackling
climate change. initially

2973
02:53:52,710 --> 02:53:55,440
proposed as part of President
Biden's build back better

2974
02:53:55,440 --> 02:53:58,470
agenda, the program was stripped
out of the inflation Reduction

2975
02:53:58,470 --> 02:54:01,800
Act. Five states have already
launched their own climate core

2976
02:54:01,800 --> 02:54:05,310
programs. And additional five
also announced new programs on

2977
02:54:05,310 --> 02:54:08,970
Wednesday. The Secretary General
of the United Nations on the

2978
02:54:08,970 --> 02:54:13,020
same day called for more action
on fossil fuels. During the

2979
02:54:13,020 --> 02:54:16,260
speech at the UN climate
ambition summit in New York, he

2980
02:54:16,260 --> 02:54:20,730
asked nation said subsidies for
fossil fuels. Yeah,

2981
02:54:20,759 --> 02:54:25,019
Adam Curry: so the climate
justice part of that is mildly

2982
02:54:25,019 --> 02:54:28,259
concerning, because that means
you could have an army of 20,000

2983
02:54:28,259 --> 02:54:34,949
brown shirts. snooping around
yeah, what are you doing with

2984
02:54:34,949 --> 02:54:35,969
that? DOD? No,

2985
02:54:35,970 --> 02:54:39,060
John C Dvorak: it was they were
they keep a tab on everybody's

2986
02:54:39,090 --> 02:54:39,600
garbage

2987
02:54:40,020 --> 02:54:44,190
Adam Curry: bins on your lapins
the it's kind of sad that we do

2988
02:54:44,190 --> 02:54:48,210
this the very end of the show
because without a doubt in my

2989
02:54:48,210 --> 02:54:54,480
mind, the number one problem we
face is the theft. That is

2990
02:54:54,480 --> 02:54:58,590
climate change and Sustainable
Development Goals, which the

2991
02:54:58,590 --> 02:55:02,670
United Nations now says We need
more than 5 trillion a year.

2992
02:55:03,360 --> 02:55:07,170
California suing five the five
major oil companies like big

2993
02:55:07,170 --> 02:55:10,980
tobacco. All the states are
going to do this now. It's all

2994
02:55:10,980 --> 02:55:13,980
theft. They're thieving. Yeah,
they're

2995
02:55:13,980 --> 02:55:14,790
John C Dvorak: stealing money.

2996
02:55:14,850 --> 02:55:16,920
Adam Curry: They're stealing you
had two clips Was this the only

2997
02:55:16,920 --> 02:55:19,170
one of the two that's the

2998
02:55:19,170 --> 02:55:21,510
John C Dvorak: only one I had to
to cluster the homeless problem

2999
02:55:21,510 --> 02:55:22,560
in Sacramento.

3000
02:55:22,590 --> 02:55:24,480
Adam Curry: Right right. I was
just thinking if I could add to

3001
02:55:24,480 --> 02:55:29,280
your climate change maybe we
just do the we're

3002
02:55:29,280 --> 02:55:31,080
John C Dvorak: good. The scope
we're good. Okay.

3003
02:55:32,040 --> 02:55:35,640
Adam Curry: We're good. Anyone
can call it you called it we're

3004
02:55:35,640 --> 02:55:40,530
good. We're totally good. And
with that we come to the end of

3005
02:55:40,530 --> 02:55:45,810
another immediate deconstruction
complete end of the media

3006
02:55:45,810 --> 02:55:50,850
deconstruction however, you can
bet we will be back on Sunday

3007
02:55:50,880 --> 02:55:54,630
with more media deconstruction
for you. That's what we do. You

3008
02:55:54,630 --> 02:55:58,920
can't find us on rumble. You can
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3009
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and and of show mixes from Tom
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I'm coming to you from the heart
of the Texas hill country. Here

3014
02:56:21,780 --> 02:56:24,600
in FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

3015
02:56:24,600 --> 02:56:25,770
curry from Northern

3016
02:56:25,770 --> 02:56:29,250
John C Dvorak: Silicon Valley,
where we have smoke in the air

3017
02:56:29,250 --> 02:56:32,610
we got smoke vent smoke for
days, I'm John C. Dvorak. No

3018
02:56:32,610 --> 02:56:33,000
smoke

3019
02:56:33,000 --> 02:56:37,080
Adam Curry: here. Blue skies
with a few chemtrails remember

3020
02:56:37,080 --> 02:56:41,130
us at divorcecourt.org/and A
until Sunday adios

3021
02:56:55,410 --> 02:56:56,850
Unknown: we're changing people's
lives

3022
02:57:00,660 --> 02:57:05,100
we feed pharma this year. Think
about what you think about

3023
02:57:07,530 --> 02:57:13,560
change changing people's lives
take everything away from the

3024
02:57:14,160 --> 02:57:21,840
user being sick and tired of
smart guys not more sick and

3025
02:57:22,200 --> 02:57:28,560
patrons are not a single thing
we can not do not a single thing

3026
02:57:29,550 --> 02:57:34,950
go get in you imagine looking at
your child or changing people's

3027
02:57:34,950 --> 02:57:40,860
lives no one not under the
history books notice no one I

3028
02:57:40,860 --> 02:57:45,630
went on the floor and got you I
got votes for that bill. I

3029
02:57:45,630 --> 02:57:49,290
convinced people to vote for it
so let's get those things are

3030
02:57:49,290 --> 02:58:00,360
changing people's lives I got
votes for that well I'm sick and

3031
02:58:00,360 --> 02:58:01,920
tired are smart guys

3032
02:58:07,770 --> 02:58:19,830
yeah man. It spurs our
imaginations our exploration of

3033
02:58:19,830 --> 02:58:31,770
space space it comes in the
morning it is a reflection of

3034
02:58:32,310 --> 02:58:41,790
our moment in our time think
about it about I believe you

3035
02:58:41,790 --> 02:58:50,310
need to legalize marijuana. I
love Venn diagrams. Who doesn't

3036
02:58:50,310 --> 02:58:51,720
love smoking weed

3037
02:58:56,790 --> 02:59:00,720
and it's part of it's part of
our Experience Experience

3038
02:59:00,720 --> 02:59:03,780
Experience Experience and there
is such great significance to

3039
02:59:03,780 --> 02:59:10,110
the passage of time time time.
Nobody should have to go to jail

3040
02:59:10,110 --> 02:59:12,270
for smoking weed we we.

3041
02:59:26,730 --> 02:59:31,650
Adios MoPhO vorak.org/in A

3042
02:59:32,910 --> 02:59:35,130
it's almost mind blowing.

