1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,920 John C Dvorak: Grab her and throw her in the camp. 2 00:00:02,280 --> 00:00:04,410 Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Devorah 3 00:00:04,980 --> 00:00:07,800 Adam Curry: September 14 2023 This is your ward winning 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,930 combination media assassination episode 1590. This is no agenda 5 00:00:13,770 --> 00:00:17,490 fossilized, mummified and broadcasting live from the heart 6 00:00:17,490 --> 00:00:20,400 of the Texas hill country here in number six in the morning, 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,080 everybody. I'm Adam curry 8 00:00:22,260 --> 00:00:25,020 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all 9 00:00:25,020 --> 00:00:30,270 wondering, What did burrata cheese become a thing? I'm Jesse 10 00:00:30,270 --> 00:00:30,870 to our x 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,750 Adam Curry: scale. Well, I happen to be a big fan of 12 00:00:36,750 --> 00:00:40,380 burrata. The burrata issue would be oh, this has been around 13 00:00:40,380 --> 00:00:44,790 forever. Italy. In everywhere. 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,970 John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Italy, et cetera. 15 00:00:49,410 --> 00:00:53,100 Adam Curry: burrata cheese. Yeah. Is this this has been 16 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:53,850 everywhere. 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,490 John C Dvorak: Italy. Everywhere. 18 00:00:56,910 --> 00:01:01,770 Adam Curry: Italy, in Holland and France, Spain, Spain. Spain 19 00:01:01,770 --> 00:01:02,280 has always had 20 00:01:02,550 --> 00:01:04,350 John C Dvorak: never heard of it till two years ago. 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,070 Adam Curry: You'd never heard of burrata until two years ago, you 22 00:01:08,070 --> 00:01:14,460 John C. Dvorak. wine connoisseur and foodie to the stars. Yeah. 23 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:15,930 Wow. 24 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:19,170 John C Dvorak: is proud of me and may have passed my way. But 25 00:01:19,170 --> 00:01:22,890 as that never was the thing, whether using it left and right 26 00:01:22,890 --> 00:01:24,900 on every cooking show on TV. 27 00:01:24,930 --> 00:01:27,870 Adam Curry: Oh, I see. You watch some television. Don't do that. 28 00:01:27,900 --> 00:01:33,090 It's not good for your health. You should not. Oh, on cooking 29 00:01:33,090 --> 00:01:34,650 show. So okay. I gotcha. 30 00:01:35,610 --> 00:01:38,880 John C Dvorak: I gotcha. Well, the other one that reminds me of 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,710 nobody took off like a rocket. Yes. Smoked paprika. 32 00:01:44,910 --> 00:01:46,620 Adam Curry: No, no. What's the other one? No, there's some 33 00:01:47,460 --> 00:01:49,860 John C Dvorak: no smoke. Paprika became a big thing. Yeah. And I 34 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:53,910 know exactly where it came from. Okay, that one I did catch the 35 00:01:53,910 --> 00:01:57,600 Genesis. All right. Well, it's been around for smoked paprika 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,780 is not a new invention. But again, it became a thing. 37 00:02:02,820 --> 00:02:03,810 Rachael Ray. 38 00:02:04,559 --> 00:02:07,109 Adam Curry: Okay, cooking shows in a cooking show popular right. 39 00:02:07,259 --> 00:02:11,099 It's like cooking shows like podcasts. Whatever we do on our 40 00:02:11,099 --> 00:02:15,539 podcast here, shows up on talker it shows up all over the place. 41 00:02:15,539 --> 00:02:18,329 I mean, everyone who else was telling me like they're always 42 00:02:18,329 --> 00:02:19,799 taking our stuff. That's how 43 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:22,350 John C Dvorak: they are. That's what you were leaders were we 44 00:02:22,350 --> 00:02:23,130 aren't leaders 45 00:02:23,250 --> 00:02:25,950 Unknown: just trash. We 46 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,630 Adam Curry: That's right, everybody is if your world 47 00:02:33,630 --> 00:02:36,840 wasn't crazy enough if you weren't spun up in this nutty 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,470 world, of course we've got to distract you and get you all 49 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:41,520 jacked up about this. 50 00:02:41,550 --> 00:02:44,940 Unknown: Well, tomorrow, NASA is set to release the findings of a 51 00:02:44,970 --> 00:02:49,770 heavily anticipated report on unidentified anomalous phenomena 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,780 also known as UAPs. Now it comes as Mexico holds its first ever 53 00:02:54,780 --> 00:02:58,440 hearing on UFOs. With scientists putting on display what they 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,300 claim are the remains of two extra terrestrials news nations 55 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:05,820 Joe Khalil joins us live with these developments. 56 00:03:06,510 --> 00:03:09,120 Adam Curry: I just love that news nation Leads Leads 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,840 everything this is the same news nation that had the so called 58 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,740 whistleblower for an exclusive interview news nation that has 59 00:03:16,770 --> 00:03:21,450 they found their niche, their niches knishes bullcrap stories 60 00:03:21,450 --> 00:03:25,290 about aliens they really nailed it this time. 61 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:29,100 John C Dvorak: I have a clip. So you came from it came from 62 00:03:29,100 --> 00:03:32,250 elsewhere. This actually came from NTD so I was given a little 63 00:03:32,250 --> 00:03:32,850 more credit. 64 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,710 Adam Curry: Oh, not just not just credit, we'll give him a 65 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:35,070 jingle. 66 00:03:35,850 --> 00:03:40,050 John C Dvorak: This is in the the the actual aliens Mexico 67 00:03:40,050 --> 00:03:40,590 story, 68 00:03:40,650 --> 00:03:43,620 Unknown: Mexico could become the first country to speak about the 69 00:03:43,620 --> 00:03:48,030 presence of aliens on Earth and a government document. Lawmakers 70 00:03:48,030 --> 00:03:51,660 considered evidence today including small corpses that one 71 00:03:51,660 --> 00:03:55,560 researcher calls non human. According to organizers these 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,210 two mummified stuffed bodies were recovered in 2017. In Peru, 73 00:04:00,450 --> 00:04:05,460 they are reportedly 718 100 years old, respectively, with 74 00:04:05,460 --> 00:04:09,570 only three fingers on each hand and elongated heads to lead 75 00:04:09,570 --> 00:04:13,260 researchers to the DNA testing shows many differences from 76 00:04:13,260 --> 00:04:17,550 humans. He sees them as clear evidence of aliens, but has 77 00:04:17,550 --> 00:04:21,000 previously been refuted by other scientists for some of his 78 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,390 related stances. This all happened at Mexico's first 79 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:27,480 public congressional hearing on the proposed aerial space 80 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,530 protection law. 81 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,620 Adam Curry: Oh, so they also have a military industrial 82 00:04:31,620 --> 00:04:35,790 complex that needs money. That's that's what this was about when 83 00:04:35,790 --> 00:04:39,300 we'd had the hearings a couple of weeks ago. Oh, we need we 84 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:42,000 need money in case the aliens come. So they have that too. 85 00:04:42,030 --> 00:04:44,610 Right at the right at the end. They said it. Yeah, that's 86 00:04:44,610 --> 00:04:47,670 John C Dvorak: what it is here to get my alien space force. 87 00:04:47,940 --> 00:04:51,360 They came 17,000 years ago. They'll be here any minute. They 88 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:51,780 should send 89 00:04:51,780 --> 00:04:54,420 Adam Curry: the DNA to 23andme see how many politicians are 90 00:04:54,420 --> 00:04:55,530 related to it because it 91 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,820 Unknown: happened at Mexico. Public congressional hearing on 92 00:04:59,820 --> 00:05:02,220 the opposed aerospace protection law, 93 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:06,720 Adam Curry: aerospace protection law money that you know, Ukraine 94 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,320 is petering out. We haven't gotten Taiwan going yet. Let's 95 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,960 get some aliens in there. We can get some space technology going 96 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:21,090 people, satellites this is I mean, does anyone believe this 97 00:05:21,090 --> 00:05:24,120 at this point? I mean, I think I think the shark has been jumped 98 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,920 with this one to coin a phrase. 99 00:05:26,340 --> 00:05:27,870 John C Dvorak: Did you see the picture going around? 100 00:05:28,050 --> 00:05:31,080 Adam Curry: And he had one of Dianne Feinstein yeah 101 00:05:34,170 --> 00:05:36,060 John C Dvorak: I saw that I couldn't stop laughing. 102 00:05:36,090 --> 00:05:37,980 Adam Curry: The other one is actually younger than Dianne 103 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:43,230 Feinstein so well, it's too bad because well maybe it was 104 00:05:43,230 --> 00:05:49,140 purposeful but it certainly covers up the Apple event. Man I 105 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:51,240 can't believe I watched it but I did and I 106 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,940 John C Dvorak: did I would do enough to avoid it. 107 00:05:53,970 --> 00:05:57,390 Adam Curry: I have a report. I have a quick boots on the ground 108 00:05:57,390 --> 00:06:00,960 report. I watched the Apple event of the new iPhone and the 109 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,680 new the boot. I'm the Bucha I'm the boot I watched it I watched 110 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,870 watch the whole thing. So first of all, just so you know, John, 111 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:17,040 everything every single thing is gorgeous. This is the key word 112 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,570 you got to use with iPhone now. 113 00:06:19,050 --> 00:06:21,690 John C Dvorak: It's gorgeous. Just an iPhone. 114 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:28,200 Adam Curry: It's gorgeous. It's a watch it's gorgeous. So they 115 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,470 start this thing off with the Apple Watch. I'm not going to 116 00:06:31,470 --> 00:06:34,290 play into clips or anything but they started off with eight 117 00:06:34,290 --> 00:06:38,640 testimonials of people who almost died I almost died 118 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,460 because a heart attack almost died because I had AFib almost 119 00:06:41,460 --> 00:06:44,850 died because I had low blood pressure almost died because I 120 00:06:44,850 --> 00:06:47,520 was hiking and I was stuck almost died because I was in a 121 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,210 crash. And I was unconscious less interesting almost died 122 00:06:51,210 --> 00:06:54,780 because of my Eevee ran out of battery on a Texas as a highway. 123 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:59,760 But the Apple Watch saved me. That's that's how they started 124 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:00,720 the whole thing off. 125 00:07:01,710 --> 00:07:02,580 John C Dvorak: That's a good bit. 126 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,300 Adam Curry: It's like they're telling you without this you 127 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:11,010 could be dead. With without the Apple Watch, you might be not a 128 00:07:11,010 --> 00:07:11,400 single. 129 00:07:11,610 --> 00:07:13,200 John C Dvorak: I've done a pretty good job of convincing 130 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,360 people to have to carry a phone with them all the time. 131 00:07:16,110 --> 00:07:18,780 Adam Curry: Well, now if you get the cellular Apple watching on 132 00:07:18,780 --> 00:07:21,600 your phone, it's got everything in there. Oh yeah, you you can 133 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,640 just double tap with your fingers and you don't even have 134 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,770 to touch the phone anymore because now it's tracking your 135 00:07:25,770 --> 00:07:30,420 body movements is fantastic. I have had a non charging watch 136 00:07:30,420 --> 00:07:37,830 for 34 years is gorgeous. And it works just great. It has never 137 00:07:37,830 --> 00:07:39,990 saved my life that I know of. But 138 00:07:40,590 --> 00:07:42,810 John C Dvorak: they have it could probably stop a bullet the 139 00:07:42,810 --> 00:07:44,040 Apple Watch probably can't 140 00:07:44,130 --> 00:07:48,750 Adam Curry: something else I noticed 90% of all men that work 141 00:07:48,750 --> 00:07:53,730 at Apple are bow legged. This is very, very interesting 142 00:07:53,730 --> 00:07:58,800 phenomena. It starts with Tim Cook he's bow legged. Half of 143 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,340 these guys no more 90% of these guys are bow legged and the 144 00:08:02,340 --> 00:08:06,780 women want men very wearing very unattractive skirts with with 145 00:08:07,230 --> 00:08:13,800 you know gym shoes runners tight if we were producing this it 146 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:14,250 would be very 147 00:08:14,250 --> 00:08:16,350 John C Dvorak: different life shirt never noticed the bow 148 00:08:16,350 --> 00:08:20,010 legged thing now as you pointed out, we won't be able to take my 149 00:08:20,010 --> 00:08:20,640 eyes away from 150 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,880 Adam Curry: it. They're all bow legged. Now location on your 151 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,890 iPhone is even more precise. 152 00:08:26,250 --> 00:08:28,500 John C Dvorak: You wonder what they're straddling so much that 153 00:08:28,500 --> 00:08:29,760 they got bow legged Hey 154 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,330 Adam Curry: yo. So now when you're looking for your friends 155 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,990 in the Farmers Market, which is hilarious you're there in the 156 00:08:36,990 --> 00:08:39,930 Farmers Market Hey Do they have any apples Hold on let me turn 157 00:08:39,930 --> 00:08:42,960 on noise canceling What do you have any apples Of course they 158 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,420 have apples it's the farmers market here I'll drop a pin come 159 00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:49,140 find me precision finding now for even better drone targeting. 160 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,070 John C Dvorak: Yeah, and stalking. And then 161 00:08:53,070 --> 00:08:55,770 Adam Curry: they had this whole Mother Nature skit, 162 00:08:56,610 --> 00:08:58,530 John C Dvorak: which you did watch the whole thing. 163 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,060 Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Did you see that thing? 164 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,360 John C Dvorak: I didn't see any of it I avoided it. I knew that 165 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,990 the products were there's nothing new what's the point? 166 00:09:07,050 --> 00:09:10,500 Adam Curry: Yeah, they had a October via Spencer not a cheap 167 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:15,420 get for this. Played Mother Nature in the most woke thing 168 00:09:15,420 --> 00:09:18,000 I've ever seen where Apple is gonna get rid of all carbon 169 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,580 everywhere. Everything we do there's no carbon. Any I was it 170 00:09:23,580 --> 00:09:29,340 was a sharp jump just to totally just like the aliens. So sorry, 171 00:09:29,370 --> 00:09:38,250 there's still a $1,200 phone. Yay. Sir, was very, very key. 172 00:09:38,250 --> 00:09:44,010 Exactly. That's pretty much blow your nose on it. It was just 173 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:50,550 just nuts. And a lot of interesting happens interesting 174 00:09:50,550 --> 00:09:55,770 things happening in the world outside of you know, 10,000 175 00:09:55,770 --> 00:10:02,040 people dying in Libya because of Danly damage. draining 20 dams 176 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:02,700 breaking it, which 177 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:03,690 John C Dvorak: means it will be 30 178 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,500 Adam Curry: I mean climate change. That's here. I got a 179 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:08,220 clip here from 180 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,100 John C Dvorak: two dams bust Yeah, nobody's climate change. 181 00:10:11,130 --> 00:10:13,020 Unknown: The mayor of a flood ravaged city along the 182 00:10:13,020 --> 00:10:17,640 Mediterranean Sea and Libya said today 18 to 20,000 people could 183 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,450 be dead in the wake of Monday's historic floods. drone video 184 00:10:21,450 --> 00:10:25,020 shows the widespread damage after two major dams collapse 185 00:10:25,170 --> 00:10:28,920 when 16 inches of rain drenched parts of the region on Sunday, 186 00:10:29,130 --> 00:10:33,390 entire neighborhoods were destroyed, leaving 10s of 1000s 187 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,650 without homes. 188 00:10:35,220 --> 00:10:37,410 Adam Curry: Yeah, this didn't include the climate change 189 00:10:37,410 --> 00:10:40,650 moniker because that did show up pretty much everywhere else. But 190 00:10:40,650 --> 00:10:43,230 it's dams and when when we learned that dams need to be 191 00:10:43,230 --> 00:10:48,450 maintained, dams dikes got to maintain them. Now it's like 192 00:10:48,450 --> 00:10:51,000 they're just doing it to get climate change. I don't think 193 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,000 anyone cares about people anymore. Their own energy 194 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,780 secretary was the new theory for a while. Yeah, my own it. People 195 00:10:57,780 --> 00:11:01,020 were very expendable, or as they would say fungible, people are 196 00:11:01,020 --> 00:11:06,240 fungible. Even though this happened in July, for some 197 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:11,460 reason now. Our energy secretary Granholm with the saucers on the 198 00:11:11,460 --> 00:11:15,240 side of her head, those huge ears she has she and she's been 199 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:22,410 on a road trip. an Eevee road trip and and she ran it. It's 200 00:11:22,410 --> 00:11:25,260 like I don't know exactly what popped this story or why it 201 00:11:25,260 --> 00:11:26,880 happened. But here's the gist of it. 202 00:11:26,939 --> 00:11:29,039 Unknown: All right. Get a lot of this one Energy Secretary 203 00:11:29,039 --> 00:11:31,349 Jennifer Granholm has electric vehicle road trip 204 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:33,930 Adam Curry: I love New Energy Secretary she's been there for a 205 00:11:33,930 --> 00:11:35,820 bit running into trouble 206 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,220 Unknown: while trying to tout the administration's green push 207 00:11:38,220 --> 00:11:42,150 Fox businesses. Great travel joins us live so Grady this got 208 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:45,900 so bad that they had to call the police is that right? 209 00:11:46,740 --> 00:11:50,250 That's right, Brian, a staffer apparently tried to hold the 210 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,390 only available electric vehicle charger for the Energy Secretary 211 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,550 by parking a gas powered vehicle in the spot that is According to 212 00:11:59,550 --> 00:12:04,620 NPR, a couple with a baby wanted to use the same charger. So the 213 00:12:04,620 --> 00:12:07,620 reporter who was tagging along on the trip says the young 214 00:12:07,620 --> 00:12:11,520 family called the cops on the staffer. The staffer wasn't 215 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,820 breaking any laws, though. So nothing came of that call to 216 00:12:14,820 --> 00:12:17,790 police. But Secretary grant Holmes road trip from North 217 00:12:17,790 --> 00:12:20,880 Carolina to Tennessee back in June highlights just how 218 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,970 difficult it is to find the electric vehicle charging 219 00:12:23,970 --> 00:12:27,690 stations and to drive EVs long distance. 220 00:12:28,020 --> 00:12:30,720 Adam Curry: I think it's actually a planted story. And 221 00:12:30,780 --> 00:12:33,900 you think no but I mean a plant is story to someone who's going 222 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:36,870 to come up with some plan some Bill has to be passed. I think 223 00:12:36,870 --> 00:12:40,980 the alien story interrupted it. You know that we need 224 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:44,220 John C Dvorak: to do it later. Biden may be due for I said in 225 00:12:44,220 --> 00:12:48,870 the newsletter, Biden is due overdue for a speech where he's 226 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:52,440 they jack him up because he hasn't been given the juice for 227 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:57,360 probably a month, maybe longer. And so he staggered around the 228 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,800 world, you know, very, very, barely able to talk and he keeps 229 00:13:01,830 --> 00:13:06,750 pushing the idea of you know, 500,000 charging stations. Yeah. 230 00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:10,650 So maybe it's got something to do with that. I do it. I did get 231 00:13:10,650 --> 00:13:13,500 a clip of somebody put together I would like to make this a 232 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:17,460 longer clip. And I think I can do it. Of Biden when he is 233 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:18,990 jacked up when they give them to 234 00:13:19,439 --> 00:13:21,389 Adam Curry: Are you are you moving away from climate change? 235 00:13:21,389 --> 00:13:24,569 All of a sudden, you're hijacking my segment? 236 00:13:25,349 --> 00:13:27,839 John C Dvorak: No, let's do it's a better word for the night 237 00:13:27,839 --> 00:13:31,559 jacket. What was I used in SERP? No, I forgot 238 00:13:31,590 --> 00:13:37,800 Adam Curry: clip crash. It was something like that. I'll get 239 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,020 you to Biden in a moment. The most uninteresting man in the 240 00:13:40,020 --> 00:13:44,670 world did not win. He's jacked up. I think Queen Ursula is more 241 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:45,840 is more interesting. But 242 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,910 John C Dvorak: back to climate change. Yes. Back to climate 243 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:48,270 change. 244 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:50,400 Adam Curry: We'll get back to I'll swing it. I'll swing it to 245 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,370 you and the most uninteresting man in the world. After we get 246 00:13:53,370 --> 00:13:53,970 to the Queen. 247 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,760 John C Dvorak: I have no clips on climate change. 248 00:13:56,790 --> 00:14:00,090 Adam Curry: I only have to. Here's Queen Ursula on I'm 249 00:14:00,090 --> 00:14:02,760 sorry, I should say she did the state of oh, that's how I should 250 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,060 have transitioned. Speaking of Biden State of the Union. Here's 251 00:14:06,060 --> 00:14:09,720 Queen Ursula state of the European Union, a little clip 252 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,700 about climate change. 253 00:14:12,090 --> 00:14:16,230 Unknown: Honourable Members. Four years ago, the European 254 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:21,420 Green Deal was our answer to the call of history. And this 255 00:14:21,420 --> 00:14:25,500 summer, the hottest ever on record in Europe was a stark 256 00:14:25,530 --> 00:14:30,630 reminder of that. Greece and Spain was struck by ravaging 257 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,590 wildfires. And were hit again only a few weeks later by 258 00:14:34,590 --> 00:14:36,240 devastating floods, 259 00:14:36,270 --> 00:14:39,210 Adam Curry: devastating floods. And we saw 260 00:14:39,210 --> 00:14:42,900 Unknown: the chaos and carnage of extreme weather, from 261 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:48,420 Slovenia to Bulgaria and right across our union. This is the 262 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:50,820 reality of a boiling planet. 263 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,040 John C Dvorak: She lays 264 00:14:53,070 --> 00:14:56,220 Adam Curry: the reality. Don't you dare speak against Queen 265 00:14:56,220 --> 00:14:58,200 Ursula. This is the reality she 266 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,860 John C Dvorak: is more boring than Biden. I will say a boiling 267 00:15:01,860 --> 00:15:02,550 planet. 268 00:15:03,150 --> 00:15:07,740 Unknown: European Green Deal was born out of this necessity to 269 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:13,110 protect our planet. But it was also designed as an opportunity 270 00:15:13,710 --> 00:15:17,610 to preserve our future prosperity. We started this 271 00:15:17,610 --> 00:15:21,480 mandate by setting long term perspective, with the climate 272 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,520 law and the climate goals. We shifted the climate agenda to 273 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,380 being an economic one. And this has given clear sense of 274 00:15:31,380 --> 00:15:35,970 direction for investment and innovation. And we have already 275 00:15:35,970 --> 00:15:40,170 seen this growth strategy delivering in the short term. 276 00:15:40,830 --> 00:15:43,980 Europe's industry is showing every single day that it is 277 00:15:43,980 --> 00:15:47,010 ready to power this transition, it's ready proving that 278 00:15:47,010 --> 00:15:52,320 modernization and decarbonisation can go hand in 279 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,070 hand. In the last five years, the number of clean steel 280 00:15:56,070 --> 00:16:03,000 factories in the European Union has grown from zero to 38. We're 281 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,270 now attracting more investment in clean hydrogen, then the 282 00:16:06,270 --> 00:16:07,860 United States and China together. 283 00:16:08,069 --> 00:16:10,409 Adam Curry: Okay, so this is where I need your expertise 284 00:16:10,409 --> 00:16:15,839 because when she says, we went from zero to 38, clean steel 285 00:16:15,839 --> 00:16:21,719 factories, clean steel, and then right after that, she says we're 286 00:16:21,749 --> 00:16:26,039 more advanced with clean hydro gene than America and China put 287 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:31,169 together I asked you are they making steel with hydro gene 288 00:16:31,169 --> 00:16:35,519 now? What is clear heard of such a thing? What is clean steel? 289 00:16:37,649 --> 00:16:39,089 Well, I have an answer. 290 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:41,310 John C Dvorak: Well, then why are you asking me to 291 00:16:41,310 --> 00:16:44,130 Adam Curry: see if you had an answer? Because you've never 292 00:16:44,130 --> 00:16:47,550 heard of such a thing and correct because it's bull crap. 293 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:52,080 Here's how clean steel is made you think somehow, they've taken 294 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,370 hydrogen, I'm sorry, clean hydrogen, and they could make it 295 00:16:56,370 --> 00:17:02,010 all hot enough to produce steel. No, no. producing clean steel 296 00:17:02,010 --> 00:17:06,180 begins in the scrap yard. Scrap with limited amounts of certain 297 00:17:06,180 --> 00:17:09,810 elements such as copper, tin, sulfur and phosphorus will yield 298 00:17:09,810 --> 00:17:15,270 cleaner Steel's the alloys used in clean steel production also 299 00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:18,300 need tightly tight quality controls regarding the chemistry 300 00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:24,300 and residual elements. So they're taking scrap steel and 301 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:27,390 then putting it melt melting it into new steel and calling it 302 00:17:27,390 --> 00:17:28,050 clean 303 00:17:31,650 --> 00:17:35,280 John C Dvorak: so the scrap is basically scrap iron recycled 304 00:17:35,310 --> 00:17:36,090 James cycle 305 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:40,110 Adam Curry: Yes. recycled scrap iron. Yeah, I don't think I want 306 00:17:40,110 --> 00:17:42,900 to go across a bridge that is made of this clean steel 307 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:45,960 John C Dvorak: should be fine. 308 00:17:45,989 --> 00:17:47,789 Adam Curry: It should be fine. 309 00:17:49,740 --> 00:17:52,770 John C Dvorak: It's just like play it up that way we're so 310 00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:56,010 we've given up we don't make steel anymore. We now have to 311 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,690 this is an excuse. And that what what are the 38 facilities? Are 312 00:18:00,690 --> 00:18:04,650 they just scrap yard in their backyards? smelter I mean, 313 00:18:04,650 --> 00:18:08,160 what's going on here? In the 40s? Exactly 314 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,800 Adam Curry: the great the Great Leap Forward. Exactly. People 315 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,970 making steel in their in their yards. It could be scrap yard 316 00:18:14,970 --> 00:18:19,230 scrap metal and steel. Yeah, could be. All right. Here's 317 00:18:19,230 --> 00:18:24,030 where we're where we are mistaken. There's so much money 318 00:18:24,330 --> 00:18:25,680 in climate change. 319 00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:28,740 John C Dvorak: But not mistaken. We've known this all along? 320 00:18:28,770 --> 00:18:31,440 Well, we're mistaken by doing this podcast instead of Oh, 321 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,260 yeah, we should do a climate change podcast standard, right, 322 00:18:34,290 --> 00:18:35,790 instead of producing 323 00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:38,820 Adam Curry: wonderful 20 minute videos of which I'm going to 324 00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:43,620 play a minute, because here's where the big money is baby. 325 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:47,670 Unknown: According to the latest IPCC report, we are past the 326 00:18:47,670 --> 00:18:51,480 point of no return for 1.5 degrees Celsius. And we're need 327 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,380 to make rapid fundamental changes to our society this 328 00:18:55,380 --> 00:18:58,110 decade to stop it going any further than that. 329 00:18:58,140 --> 00:19:00,120 Adam Curry: Now, just remember, you and I could do a much better 330 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:02,460 job producing this video but wait for it. 331 00:19:03,030 --> 00:19:07,350 Unknown: This will be hard. There's no way we as a species 332 00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:11,520 will be able to achieve this hard path unless we can agree on 333 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,820 the facts that underpin it though. Without the broader 334 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:18,240 context of agreed upon data, it will forever be perfectly 335 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,810 possible to arrive at a wide range of conclusions and 336 00:19:21,810 --> 00:19:25,650 different paths we should take. That is why when it comes to any 337 00:19:25,650 --> 00:19:30,090 discussion, context is so important. By looking at the 338 00:19:30,090 --> 00:19:33,810 pattern of our planet's history, we see that the current uptick 339 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,290 in global temperatures obviously an induced event that doesn't 340 00:19:37,290 --> 00:19:42,060 match already existing patterns, and it perfectly coincides with 341 00:19:42,060 --> 00:19:46,320 human activity. debate what you want to do with that information 342 00:19:46,350 --> 00:19:49,920 and the best path to take in light of it. But these are the 343 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,450 facts set in ice and the bones of organisms long dead. They 344 00:19:54,450 --> 00:19:57,900 will broke no argument, dealing with all the crises that the 345 00:19:57,900 --> 00:20:00,690 world seems to throw at you daily can get It's a little 346 00:20:00,690 --> 00:20:03,900 overwhelming. Sometimes it's important to take care of 347 00:20:03,900 --> 00:20:07,170 yourself. That's why today's video is in partnership with 348 00:20:07,170 --> 00:20:11,640 better help. Mental health is a cause that is deeply important 349 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,060 to me. 350 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,830 Adam Curry: So better help paid for a 20 minute video to scare 351 00:20:16,830 --> 00:20:20,400 people. And then to say, if you're scared, use BetterHelp 352 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,820 because we can help you get over this frightened anxiety that you 353 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:27,750 have because of climate change. Do you see? Do you see the 354 00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:33,060 mistake we're making? Oh, we've known this forever. But I mean, 355 00:20:33,060 --> 00:20:34,200 this is genius. 356 00:20:35,010 --> 00:20:37,650 John C Dvorak: Do it. It's corrupt. We can't bring 357 00:20:37,650 --> 00:20:40,350 ourselves to being that corrupt. That's just nothing. That was 358 00:20:40,350 --> 00:20:41,880 just pure corruption. Of course. 359 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,460 Adam Curry: It's corruption. BetterHelp the number one 360 00:20:44,460 --> 00:20:49,050 advertiser last month on podcasts? I'll have you no, no. 361 00:20:49,290 --> 00:20:49,800 Yeah. 362 00:20:50,399 --> 00:20:53,609 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's a fact. Yes, they but and the only 363 00:20:53,609 --> 00:20:55,529 90 Where did that number come from? 364 00:20:56,010 --> 00:20:58,440 Adam Curry: From? Sounds profitable? This is these are 365 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,960 numbers. These are this is from the industry. I pay attention to 366 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,780 the podcast industrial complex. We I would hope so. But here's 367 00:21:03,780 --> 00:21:08,190 the thing. $9 million they spent in one month. I still don't see 368 00:21:08,190 --> 00:21:11,970 how that how the industry is 2 billion. Okay, maybe it's me. 369 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:19,500 Yeah, better health spent $9 million on podcasts. Wait, we 370 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:22,140 could we could take their ads. Hey, John, are you feeling a 371 00:21:22,140 --> 00:21:24,720 little anxious? Because of all this climate change or the 372 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,690 nervous wreck? Maybe we should talk to our better health 373 00:21:27,690 --> 00:21:34,260 doctor. No, we can't pull it off. Anyway, back to Joe Biden. 374 00:21:38,010 --> 00:21:40,260 John C Dvorak: Yes, looking at this or I'm sorry, I was looking 375 00:21:40,260 --> 00:21:43,830 at some article about Walter Isaacson where they discuss he 376 00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:45,300 did the musk bio. 377 00:21:45,390 --> 00:21:49,800 Adam Curry: You I have I have clips. Oh, unless I just 378 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,450 John C Dvorak: had to play the read the headline from the 379 00:21:51,450 --> 00:21:55,830 Intelligencer, the journalist in the billionaire? What did an old 380 00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:59,790 establishment guy like Walter Isaacson learn writing Elon 381 00:21:59,790 --> 00:22:03,060 Musk's biography and this is a plant his story that promotes 382 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:03,810 the book all 383 00:22:03,810 --> 00:22:05,730 Adam Curry: planted. Now, 384 00:22:06,930 --> 00:22:09,330 John C Dvorak: when did Walter Isaacson become an old 385 00:22:09,330 --> 00:22:10,680 establishment guy? 386 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,120 Adam Curry: Isn't he the epitome of access journalism? Like I 387 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:18,900 will write a Fanta out you'll you'll you'll come off as a as a 388 00:22:18,900 --> 00:22:22,560 hardcore dude. But everyone will love you beautiful picture on 389 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,760 the cover. Don't worry about it's all good. Let me embed with 390 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,150 you. 391 00:22:28,860 --> 00:22:32,280 John C Dvorak: Isn't that how it works? That is an element. 392 00:22:32,429 --> 00:22:34,529 Adam Curry: Do you want to hear the three quick clips I have 393 00:22:34,529 --> 00:22:39,359 from Walter Isaacson and with Savannah Guthrie about either 394 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,499 the biography 395 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:43,650 John C Dvorak: Absolutely. I think that's got to be just 396 00:22:43,650 --> 00:22:45,240 gotta go right up front. Okay, 397 00:22:45,570 --> 00:22:48,690 Adam Curry: well, he's identified different modes, that 398 00:22:48,690 --> 00:22:54,330 Elon has different modes. You know, like, there's grumpy John 399 00:22:54,330 --> 00:23:00,420 happy John. There's nobody Adam. There's what other modes do I 400 00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:00,810 have? 401 00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:04,230 John C Dvorak: I will mention them. 402 00:23:04,740 --> 00:23:08,070 Unknown: And the lawn can turn dark too and get very tough on 403 00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:08,370 people. 404 00:23:08,370 --> 00:23:10,080 Do you see that as well? Yeah, well, 405 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,040 you sometimes see him he has many personalities. First time 406 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,240 you're around a really you know half joking guy or a guy playing 407 00:23:18,690 --> 00:23:23,880 you know, engineering mode in which time to goes into it. 408 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,410 Claire boo che his occasional girlfriend known as Grimes calls 409 00:23:28,590 --> 00:23:32,670 demon mode demon mode, and that's when it gets dark. 410 00:23:34,170 --> 00:23:38,040 Can you give some examples? Sometime sometimes 411 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,320 Adam Curry: weather needs some examples. I'm so excited about 412 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,920 Elon Musk. I mean, I've been doing Grimes you could do me 413 00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:48,480 Unknown: dinner or had a meeting or walking on a factory line. 414 00:23:48,780 --> 00:23:53,160 You can see the clouds gathering I remember for 2030 times I'll 415 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,550 give you one which is in South Texas at the tip of South Texas 416 00:23:56,550 --> 00:24:00,330 is Boca Chica. We has a launch pad for starship and one Friday 417 00:24:00,330 --> 00:24:04,290 night at around 10pm he sort of joking about everything. And 418 00:24:04,290 --> 00:24:07,890 then he sees that only two people working at the pack is 419 00:24:07,890 --> 00:24:11,580 10pm on a Friday night. But you can see the dark and he just 420 00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:15,540 explodes and for about an hour. He's berating people, and then 421 00:24:15,540 --> 00:24:20,220 he orders up what he calls a surge. He wants 200 people there 422 00:24:20,220 --> 00:24:24,510 by the next day. So they start working. So this tension for 423 00:24:24,510 --> 00:24:26,640 drama comes out of the childhood to 424 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,790 Adam Curry: oh, it comes out of his Isaac's and apparently not 425 00:24:29,790 --> 00:24:34,350 working for better health. It's Yes, it's from his youth is 426 00:24:34,350 --> 00:24:40,770 childhood. The demon mode. He has another mode is called manic 427 00:24:40,770 --> 00:24:41,370 mode. 428 00:24:41,399 --> 00:24:44,219 Unknown: There are occasions in the book where you refer to Musk 429 00:24:44,219 --> 00:24:48,449 as being in manic mode. I mean manic that is a term of art and 430 00:24:48,449 --> 00:24:49,229 mental health. 431 00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:51,900 Adam Curry: I mean, another better help commercial. 432 00:24:52,110 --> 00:24:54,990 Unknown: Are you suggesting or in any way? Do you question 433 00:24:54,990 --> 00:24:58,020 whether he struggles with mental illness? Oh, yeah. 434 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,990 Adam Curry: Yeah. Let me ask you a question, John. How come 435 00:25:00,990 --> 00:25:04,440 Savannah Guthrie is talking about what she just said. You 436 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,780 know, this is clearly mental health. Does she ever say that 437 00:25:06,780 --> 00:25:08,490 about I don't know, our President 438 00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:13,349 Unknown: talking about in the book he talks about he talks 439 00:25:13,349 --> 00:25:16,829 about he's you know, hasn't been officially diagnosed. He says, 440 00:25:16,829 --> 00:25:20,609 we talked about bipolar, he takes up a lot of prescription 441 00:25:20,609 --> 00:25:21,299 medicines at 442 00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:29,010 John C Dvorak: what hard stop hard stop. He hasn't been 443 00:25:29,010 --> 00:25:30,000 diagnosed, 444 00:25:30,030 --> 00:25:32,100 Adam Curry: but he takes a lot of prescription medicine. 445 00:25:32,130 --> 00:25:35,370 John C Dvorak: I was impossible. How is that possible? 446 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,430 Adam Curry: You gotta wonder, you gotta wonder maybe maybe he 447 00:25:38,430 --> 00:25:39,570 has ever been diagnosed, 448 00:25:39,570 --> 00:25:41,070 John C Dvorak: but he's got a lot of prescriptions that he 449 00:25:41,070 --> 00:25:41,550 takes. That's 450 00:25:41,550 --> 00:25:45,480 Adam Curry: right. That's right. It's, by the way, manic mode is 451 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,710 a term of art. 452 00:25:47,730 --> 00:25:50,190 John C Dvorak: I heard that too. They would have stopped. There 453 00:25:51,030 --> 00:25:51,810 Unknown: hasn't been a 454 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,340 Adam Curry: second. Yeah, please. 455 00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:56,160 John C Dvorak: When did Isaacson have time to do this book? He 456 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,820 was rolling around together guy still at the Aspen Institute. 457 00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:04,560 He's in all these meetings. He's like a spook. I mean, Where's 458 00:26:04,590 --> 00:26:06,060 where's this? Where's the time? 459 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,090 Adam Curry: He had an outline? Here's the outline. Wait, 460 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,680 John C Dvorak: before you do that? I don't know if you 461 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,400 remember it, but I sure do. And I don't know if we got a clip of 462 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,360 it. But he was on some talk show about a year ago saying he lost 463 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:26,640 his editor that's at I forgot who is working with those Simon 464 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,000 and Schuster Doubleday, one of them. Some editor he worked with 465 00:26:30,030 --> 00:26:34,860 all the time. Is that was his his go to editor, which was the 466 00:26:34,860 --> 00:26:39,300 go between editor I'm guessing with whoever is doing a lot of 467 00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:44,100 this research. And he's retired. He's not going to write any more 468 00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:45,570 books. It's what he said. Is 469 00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:48,960 Adam Curry: this from 2017. Maybe Could it be that long ago? 470 00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:54,120 Unknown: It could be why did Florence Florida 471 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:59,820 Adam Curry: that was his book on Leonardo da Vinci? No, I don't I 472 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:00,360 don't know what 473 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,450 John C Dvorak: I don't know if I if I but he did say this dead. 474 00:27:03,450 --> 00:27:08,520 He was the editor was gone. That was the end of him. And I just 475 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,880 made the assumption that that was, you know, the some 476 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,700 mechanism that was in place that allowed me to do these big 477 00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:22,320 books, somehow was now missing because of the editor. I don't 478 00:27:22,350 --> 00:27:25,140 know there's another book by like to know what happened. What 479 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:29,550 does Oh, wait, let me guess Savannah asks, a pertinent 480 00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:31,080 question along these lines. 481 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,910 Unknown: You know, hasn't been officially diagnosed. He says 482 00:27:35,910 --> 00:27:40,140 Elon available to me has been talks about bipolar, he takes up 483 00:27:40,170 --> 00:27:45,720 a lot of prescription medicines that he can be variable in his 484 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,470 moods and Sarah Lyon does a Jekyll and Hyde quality where he 485 00:27:49,470 --> 00:27:53,460 will go into a dark, depressed mood and say some things 486 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,640 sometimes things that his father said to him. And then a few 487 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,120 hours later, he asked about it. Things like he almost has no 488 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:00,630 memory. 489 00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:03,690 Adam Curry: He has no memory of his things his father said to 490 00:28:03,690 --> 00:28:07,410 him, and then he has no memory of it because it because he's 491 00:28:07,410 --> 00:28:08,400 taking ketamine. 492 00:28:10,110 --> 00:28:12,240 John C Dvorak: It's like the Joe Biden at dinner, his dad's 493 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,030 stories, what it is, all of a sudden, all these guys tell what 494 00:28:15,030 --> 00:28:17,670 their father said, I'm gonna start doing that in the podcast. 495 00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:20,430 Adam Curry: No, you know, I don't think you've ever talked 496 00:28:20,430 --> 00:28:21,240 about your dad. 497 00:28:21,719 --> 00:28:23,699 John C Dvorak: No, I never said he didn't. You know, I can't 498 00:28:23,699 --> 00:28:25,859 think of anything. He told me that it would be pertinent to 499 00:28:25,859 --> 00:28:29,759 the show or anything else for that matter. Wow. Hey, get up. 500 00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:34,019 Get up. It's late. You gotta go to school. I remember my dad 501 00:28:34,019 --> 00:28:39,959 telling me to get up. Or the famous the dad putting the right 502 00:28:39,989 --> 00:28:44,699 way to get kids up a wet cold wash cloth on the face. That'll 503 00:28:44,699 --> 00:28:49,649 get you up. Wow, no one. No, that's child abuse. 504 00:28:50,010 --> 00:28:51,900 Adam Curry: Can I write your book? Can I embed with you and 505 00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:53,730 write your book John has done I went 506 00:28:53,730 --> 00:28:54,450 John C Dvorak: that editor 507 00:28:55,050 --> 00:28:57,300 Unknown: you know, for better or for worse. Elan Musk is 508 00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:59,850 incredibly influential and maybe influential isn't even in the 509 00:28:59,850 --> 00:29:02,340 word incredibly powerful. Some people say is more powerful than 510 00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:04,290 any government, including the US government. 511 00:29:07,020 --> 00:29:08,610 John C Dvorak: What was the point of dropping that little 512 00:29:08,610 --> 00:29:10,470 gem in there? It's bull crap. 513 00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:12,390 Adam Curry: She wants a date with him. 514 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,760 Unknown: We've seen in Ukraine with the flick of a switch. He 515 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,430 can turn off the satellite communication in effect a war 516 00:29:17,639 --> 00:29:19,379 Adam Curry: not exactly what happened to them. 517 00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:21,390 John C Dvorak: That is a lie. 518 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,020 Adam Curry: Well, she only read the you know, the New York Times 519 00:29:25,020 --> 00:29:25,170 The 520 00:29:25,170 --> 00:29:28,500 Unknown: only reason SpaceX is the only way US astronauts get 521 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:30,720 to space anymore. He's transforming the electric 522 00:29:31,230 --> 00:29:35,130 John C Dvorak: fly. That's a blatant lie. 523 00:29:35,159 --> 00:29:37,199 Adam Curry: They're built you know, I think you've noticed 524 00:29:37,199 --> 00:29:42,239 that the media the M five M is building a profile of musk part 525 00:29:42,239 --> 00:29:45,689 of it is to promote this book. Obviously, part of it is because 526 00:29:45,719 --> 00:29:49,319 they they are corny for billionaires. There's something 527 00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:53,249 about money that attracts a person like Savannah Guthrie, a 528 00:29:53,249 --> 00:29:57,809 tech billionaire. You know it's attractive to her. You can hear 529 00:29:57,809 --> 00:30:02,519 it in everything she's saying she's she's JD for him. It's 530 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:05,999 part of that. But I think it's also building up to something. 531 00:30:06,899 --> 00:30:11,669 There's something up and they're building up to it. His chargers 532 00:30:11,730 --> 00:30:14,190 Unknown: have a lot to do with whether or not we make this 533 00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:14,880 transition to. 534 00:30:15,509 --> 00:30:18,179 Adam Curry: There you go. That may be it, John, that may be the 535 00:30:18,179 --> 00:30:21,239 reason why the change? Well, no the charges that may be the 536 00:30:21,239 --> 00:30:26,849 planted story for Granholm from June that all of a sudden No, 537 00:30:26,849 --> 00:30:27,359 the not enough. 538 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,950 Unknown: Yeah. Could be Yes anymore. He's transforming the 539 00:30:31,950 --> 00:30:35,220 electric car industry. His chargers have a lot to do with 540 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:37,950 whether or not we make this transition to electric energy. 541 00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,290 And now on the eve of a presidential election, 542 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,300 controlling Twitter a major rhetoric and misinformation. 543 00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:46,260 That's what 544 00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:48,570 John C Dvorak: it is. So it's information on Twitter. Yeah, 545 00:30:48,570 --> 00:30:50,010 because he controls it 546 00:30:50,010 --> 00:30:52,350 Unknown: knowing what you know about him. Are you comfortable 547 00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:57,000 that this singular man has that kind of influence over our world 548 00:30:57,030 --> 00:30:59,760 Adam Curry: this is this is because Kara Swisher who used to 549 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:05,460 love Elon hates him so much. She reruns old interviews during 550 00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:11,040 Labor Day. Just show me that this this is the old Elon, this 551 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,030 is what he used to be like. Now he's just the horrible person. 552 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,570 John C Dvorak: Jacqueline Hyde has a hatred toward Elon by the 553 00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:19,440 press, 554 00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:21,840 Adam Curry: in particular, all because of Twitter. 555 00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:26,340 John C Dvorak: And he hasn't done anything at Twitter except 556 00:31:26,340 --> 00:31:30,660 fire a bunch of, you know, middle managers. He hasn't 557 00:31:30,660 --> 00:31:34,110 changed anything over there when I don't see my numbers changing 558 00:31:34,110 --> 00:31:38,370 any which way. I see a lot of other people that are more left 559 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,720 less on the right. They don't see anything changing. And I ran 560 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,650 into a number of threads the other day that were so left 561 00:31:46,650 --> 00:31:51,570 leaning. And in fact it was like the American socialist Democrats 562 00:31:51,570 --> 00:31:55,170 have so many people on there that they're loading up with 563 00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:59,700 anti American memes and everything in between. It's like 564 00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:05,340 I this is this is unfounded, this hatred. 565 00:32:05,490 --> 00:32:08,700 Adam Curry: You know, one of our producers of lawyer in Texas 566 00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:14,100 sent me the Fifth Circuit opinion about how the Biden 567 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,430 administration coerced and threatened social media, which 568 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:21,870 is exactly what the Twitter files were about. Not that not 569 00:32:21,870 --> 00:32:25,050 that this is going to be resolved anytime. But he did 570 00:32:25,050 --> 00:32:28,650 highlight a few things for me, which I think are 571 00:32:28,830 --> 00:32:30,660 John C Dvorak: this is from the fifth district Missouri case 572 00:32:30,660 --> 00:32:31,860 you're talking about? Yeah. So 573 00:32:31,860 --> 00:32:35,250 Adam Curry: this is the Fifth Circuit, the Louisiana, Missouri 574 00:32:35,250 --> 00:32:36,120 versus Biden, 575 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,320 John C Dvorak: I think is the name of the case. 576 00:32:40,170 --> 00:32:42,150 Adam Curry: The fifth circuit on Friday, largely upheld in 577 00:32:42,150 --> 00:32:44,760 Louisiana federal judge's order blocking White House staffers 578 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,950 and some federal agencies from working with social media 579 00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:50,010 companies to combat disinformation holding that some 580 00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:54,000 federal officials likely quote coerce social media platforms 581 00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:57,450 into censoring certain content in violation of the First 582 00:32:57,450 --> 00:33:01,440 Amendment. Specifically, it said the White House, the White 583 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,280 House, working with the Office of the Surgeon General, coerce 584 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,640 the platform's to make their moderation decisions by way of 585 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,780 intimidating messages and threats of adverse consequences. 586 00:33:13,230 --> 00:33:15,810 The White House and Surgeon General also significantly 587 00:33:15,810 --> 00:33:18,720 encouraged the platform's decisions by commandeering their 588 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,890 decision making process, the FBI and CDC appear to have engaged 589 00:33:22,890 --> 00:33:27,120 in similar conduct. We do not take our decision lightly. But 590 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,750 the US Supreme Court has rarely been faced with a coordinated 591 00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:34,260 campaign of this magnitude orchestrated by a federal 592 00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:37,890 official that federal officials that jeopardized a functional 593 00:33:37,890 --> 00:33:41,160 aspect of American life. Therefore, the district court 594 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,700 was correct in its assessment, but more importantly, officials 595 00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:47,040 expressed and implicitly threatened to retaliate if the 596 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,190 companies didn't take action. And that alone should be enough 597 00:33:50,190 --> 00:33:54,060 to find coercion. They made Express threats, inflammatory 598 00:33:54,060 --> 00:33:58,590 accusations, such as saying the platform's were poisoning the 599 00:33:58,590 --> 00:34:04,200 public and killing people. This 600 00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:07,350 John C Dvorak: we know the poisoning part's true. 601 00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:12,930 Adam Curry: You're right. The judge signed off on the 602 00:34:12,930 --> 00:34:15,690 injunction, a rare and lengthy order issued on the Fourth of 603 00:34:15,690 --> 00:34:17,820 July Federal holiday in particular, the judge said the 604 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:21,630 federal government's attempt to suppress alleged disinformation, 605 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,290 particularly about the pandemic and here it is, arguably 606 00:34:25,350 --> 00:34:29,910 involves the most massive attack on free speech in United States 607 00:34:30,030 --> 00:34:36,120 history. This, you know, this will go to Supreme Court or get 608 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,800 kicked back it'll go on for years. 609 00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:39,150 John C Dvorak: I don't ever make it in. 610 00:34:39,689 --> 00:34:42,779 Adam Curry: It's just, it's just good to hear. You know, 611 00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,109 obviously, this is not something that Savannah Guthrie will 612 00:34:46,109 --> 00:34:49,949 discuss. No, no, but it's your but you know, it's like 613 00:34:50,099 --> 00:34:53,549 disinformation. They don't have the back door anymore. They're 614 00:34:53,549 --> 00:34:58,859 no longer being promoted being boosted on the platform. They 615 00:34:58,859 --> 00:35:03,839 all left in a huff and I'm going to Matt dime and then I'm acid 616 00:35:03,839 --> 00:35:07,739 on they couldn't to quote tweet me suck and they went to bed. 617 00:35:07,979 --> 00:35:12,299 But what's, what's the other thing? Blue? Blue Blue? Blue 618 00:35:12,299 --> 00:35:16,229 Bird blue. Command what's out of the thing called the new 619 00:35:16,409 --> 00:35:21,689 Twitter? Drupal X? No, no, that's the other Dorsey thing. 620 00:35:22,469 --> 00:35:26,039 Yeah, blue sky. I'm going to Blue Sky have you? Did I send 621 00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:27,659 you an invite to blue sky? You've got it. 622 00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:30,960 John C Dvorak: No, you didn't. I feel I feel slighted. It's the 623 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,130 trans mouse's 624 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:35,190 Adam Curry: social network. It's amazing God I can imagine 625 00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:40,200 amazing so and the threads I'm going to be on threads This is 626 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,510 the place to be it's so much better than x. So social media 627 00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:46,410 is broken 628 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,140 John C Dvorak: and there's all blue sky blue sky Yeah, I 629 00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:51,900 thought I thought that we went to going to gab or whatever 630 00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:52,860 happened to gab 631 00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:55,170 Adam Curry: Hello 2010 632 00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:58,470 John C Dvorak: was the other one there was another one it was 633 00:35:58,470 --> 00:36:02,190 another one besides gab that was a beginner get her get her get 634 00:36:02,190 --> 00:36:02,370 her 635 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,970 Adam Curry: get her and what else was there get 636 00:36:05,970 --> 00:36:08,400 John C Dvorak: her as a couple other ones CompuServe 637 00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:14,070 Adam Curry: prodigy Orkut? Yeah, 638 00:36:15,150 --> 00:36:17,340 Unknown: they miss information. No parlor 639 00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:20,790 Adam Curry: that's the one parlor bar. But I call it true 640 00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:27,660 social it's this is the thing is broken. The she's the M five M 641 00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:30,900 presstitutes know that ultimately social media is 642 00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:35,670 broken. Elon is he doesn't care he's still notes community notes 643 00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:39,600 and suppressing and you know yaka Reno his CEO is like you 644 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,350 can have freedom of speech but not freedom of reach. Yeah, it's 645 00:36:43,350 --> 00:36:48,510 another word for shadow banning Okay, we got it. And I get I get 646 00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:52,740 no traction. My tweet if someone doesn't retweet one of my tweets 647 00:36:52,740 --> 00:36:57,540 it goes nowhere with my my 90,000 non blue check followers 648 00:36:57,900 --> 00:36:58,860 so that's just what it is 649 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,990 John C Dvorak: this whole thing there's nothing has changed it's 650 00:37:00,990 --> 00:37:04,230 still a repeat same piece of crap that it always was. But 651 00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:06,870 Adam Curry: they don't have their people in the Yeah, they 652 00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:10,200 don't have their people getting interested left and right and 653 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,970 trust and safety team and 654 00:37:13,350 --> 00:37:15,330 John C Dvorak: I don't even want to get into it. Well, then then 655 00:37:15,330 --> 00:37:15,780 let's just 656 00:37:15,780 --> 00:37:17,190 Adam Curry: continue with subpoena playing 657 00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:19,290 Unknown: here source of information, rhetoric and 658 00:37:19,290 --> 00:37:22,350 potentially misinformation, knowing what you know about him. 659 00:37:22,590 --> 00:37:26,370 Are you comfortable that this singular man has that kind of 660 00:37:26,370 --> 00:37:28,110 influence over our world? 661 00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:29,820 Are you comfortable or overall? 662 00:37:31,890 --> 00:37:34,770 I think it's not great that he has so much power and you take 663 00:37:35,370 --> 00:37:39,390 Starlink episode in Ukraine, where he had actually geo fenced 664 00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:42,120 off the Crimea, so they couldn't do it. He had done it before 665 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,880 that night. And now he's creating Star Shield and selling 666 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,970 it to the US military because he talked to us government 667 00:37:50,970 --> 00:37:54,000 officials he realizes why am I in the middle of this war it 668 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,420 should be something government officials do so he's sold star 669 00:37:57,420 --> 00:38:01,290 link to the US government so that the government can control 670 00:38:01,410 --> 00:38:02,370 how it's done. 671 00:38:02,730 --> 00:38:06,150 Adam Curry: Exactly. He's a government shill that's it's 672 00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:07,140 always the same 673 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,750 John C Dvorak: money is from government is the government 674 00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:14,910 somehow that he's made his Tesla money by banking on the on the 675 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,820 financing and the kickbacks with a call when you buy a car you 676 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:24,090 get a bribe credit for buying electric yes tax 677 00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:24,810 Adam Curry: credit. Yes. 678 00:38:25,110 --> 00:38:27,660 John C Dvorak: Rebates one thing after another so rebate, the 679 00:38:27,660 --> 00:38:30,840 rebate so rebate government money is government money when 680 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,770 he has solar city it was government money. Yes. It's they 681 00:38:34,770 --> 00:38:38,520 could barely make that work. He almost went broke with Solar 682 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,130 City had to fold it into Tesla. 683 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,640 Adam Curry: Yeah, but you know, SpaceX is it's all government 684 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,680 money, all government money. And I was going, you know, we should 685 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:58,230 probably move right into this because Elon was a part of the 686 00:38:58,260 --> 00:38:59,460 well, the Titans 687 00:38:59,490 --> 00:39:02,670 Unknown: Elon Musk Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg are together 688 00:39:02,670 --> 00:39:06,150 today in one room to discuss the future of artificial 689 00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:09,630 intelligence. Both the dangers and the benefits. CBS Jolene 690 00:39:09,630 --> 00:39:12,300 Kent reports. Lawmakers are struggling to keep up with the 691 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:13,050 technology. 692 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,720 Adam Curry: Oh, because it's a series of tubes That's 693 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:16,590 complicated. 694 00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:20,880 Unknown: Today, a rare show of force by tech tycoons on Capitol 695 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,730 Hill, tackling the growing threat of artificial 696 00:39:23,730 --> 00:39:27,660 intelligence to American jobs, safety and according to Elon 697 00:39:27,660 --> 00:39:29,490 Musk, very existence. 698 00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:32,970 This meeting breakout on history has been very important for the 699 00:39:32,970 --> 00:39:33,960 future of civilization. 700 00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:37,410 You can ask Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates and other top CEOs 701 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,440 and that behind closed doors with a bipartisan group of 702 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,910 senators facing the reality that if no action is taken, AI is 703 00:39:44,910 --> 00:39:50,070 expected to eliminate or disrupt 300 million jobs worldwide. Musk 704 00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:53,100 the richest man in the world says he told senators he's in 705 00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:57,150 favor of having a specific regulator for AI to work 706 00:39:57,150 --> 00:40:02,370 for us to have a referee I think the call sequences of AI going 707 00:40:02,370 --> 00:40:06,630 wrong are severe. So we have to be proactive rather than 708 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:07,230 reactive, 709 00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:09,959 sufficiently ready to regulate 710 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,690 the sequence of events will not be jumping in at the deep end 711 00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:17,220 and and making rules. 712 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,420 Another top priority today is managing AI rapid development. 713 00:40:21,630 --> 00:40:26,160 Can Americans trust open AI to make AI safe? 714 00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:29,610 I think trust but verify. I think it's really important that 715 00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:31,620 the government does put a sensible policy in 716 00:40:31,620 --> 00:40:33,510 Adam Curry: place, trust but verify along 717 00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:35,940 Unknown: with that safety. Senators told me another major 718 00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:39,690 focus was the case against China. They want us tech 719 00:40:39,690 --> 00:40:43,200 companies to set the global standards before China does. But 720 00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:47,250 lawmakers also want the tech companies to develop their AI 721 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,420 responsibly. 722 00:40:48,450 --> 00:40:51,450 Adam Curry: I'm telling you that Elon Musk is going to build 723 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:54,300 something he's going to sell it to the government that'll be the 724 00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:59,550 regulator or be the approved AI or it's, this is all in it's all 725 00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:01,530 bull bull bull. 726 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:07,380 John C Dvorak: Well, a couple of things. One, why I have three 727 00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:13,890 clips on this, this tech meeting on a I these are from a New Tang 728 00:41:13,890 --> 00:41:17,010 Dynasty. So there's probably more objective. But the thing 729 00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:23,190 is, why was every quote from Elon Musk. And the reason I 730 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:26,190 asked that is because everybody was there. It wasn't the way 731 00:41:26,190 --> 00:41:30,240 they like to say it. It was always gates, Musk and 732 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:30,900 Zuckerberg 733 00:41:30,930 --> 00:41:34,680 Adam Curry: can answer that question. No, we play a little 734 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,290 bit of this TRT clip and it tells you why 735 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,800 Unknown: America's technology Titans was summoned to a forum 736 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,780 with US lawmakers in Washington to discuss how to make AI safe. 737 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,670 At the meeting from which the media were excluded, the 738 00:41:50,670 --> 00:41:51,930 participants reached there 739 00:41:51,930 --> 00:41:54,630 Adam Curry: was an it was a no media meeting. So the mosque was 740 00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:58,470 the only one who who talked to the press. All the other guys 741 00:41:58,470 --> 00:42:00,930 were way too important. That's why 742 00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:09,690 John C Dvorak: well, I'm back to the thesis because Shar was 743 00:42:09,690 --> 00:42:10,410 there. 744 00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:12,480 Adam Curry: Gates. 745 00:42:12,750 --> 00:42:15,150 John C Dvorak: Well didn't know they already they said they made 746 00:42:15,150 --> 00:42:18,690 a point of saying Zuckerberg gates and musk but everybody was 747 00:42:18,690 --> 00:42:23,160 there. There was that day Google guy was there. The head of Apple 748 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,840 was there. Everybody was there. And any one of them could have 749 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,190 been gone outside and talk to the press. But they just glom on 750 00:42:32,190 --> 00:42:37,080 to Musk Musk is like the guy and I think ism and musk throws 751 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,910 himself into it. I think he seeks it. He reminds me of Adam 752 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:46,530 Osborne during the heyday of Osborne computers take us back. 753 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,840 Osborne once said to his staff that if anyone from the media 754 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:57,030 calls me I'm taking the call right stop everything he was so 755 00:42:57,030 --> 00:43:01,800 into being in front and the front guys got rushed in front 756 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,940 of the rush out there to be interviewed as this is when Musk 757 00:43:05,940 --> 00:43:08,100 is the Musk is doing this himself. 758 00:43:08,279 --> 00:43:12,929 Adam Curry: Yes, yes. He started the whole the whole anger thing 759 00:43:12,959 --> 00:43:16,799 it came from him he's the Genesis when he got kicked out 760 00:43:16,799 --> 00:43:20,369 of his own organization open a eyes like this is dangerous when 761 00:43:20,369 --> 00:43:22,499 you don't have Congress it was we gotta have rules. You gotta 762 00:43:22,499 --> 00:43:24,899 have a referee. We have to trust but verify. 763 00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:30,240 John C Dvorak: Musk is wagging the dog. So let's let's play 764 00:43:30,270 --> 00:43:33,240 tech meeting on AI one. This is a little more elaborate 765 00:43:33,540 --> 00:43:36,330 Unknown: and unprecedented meeting on Capitol Hill today, 766 00:43:36,570 --> 00:43:40,320 as tech tycoons like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg huddle with 767 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,680 senators huddled entities. Iris Tao joins us live from 768 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,910 Washington, DC. Good evening, Iris. What lawmakers tell us 769 00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:49,440 about this closed door meeting 770 00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:52,830 Good evening to you. So today's meeting lasted a whole day 771 00:43:52,830 --> 00:43:55,890 behind closed doors. And senators, including leading 772 00:43:55,890 --> 00:43:58,800 senators like Senator Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, and came 773 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,950 out to talk to us right after it ended, saying that he talked 774 00:44:01,950 --> 00:44:04,470 about variety of issues, including how to increase 775 00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:08,400 transparency in the AI industry and how to mitigate risk 776 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,910 associated with some AI techniques such as deep fake and 777 00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:15,480 what's known as watermarking. And how such techniques could be 778 00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:17,790 used to influence things like elections. 779 00:44:19,530 --> 00:44:22,560 Adam Curry: This is why Elon is talking because Elon runs 780 00:44:22,590 --> 00:44:25,620 elections Don't you know that he's been the most important and 781 00:44:25,620 --> 00:44:27,090 most powerful man in the world. 782 00:44:28,410 --> 00:44:32,430 John C Dvorak: He just cut it off at that spot because she's 783 00:44:32,430 --> 00:44:35,340 just throwing terms out there. And whatever Schumer Schumer 784 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:38,490 doesn't none of these congressmen have a clue. They 785 00:44:38,490 --> 00:44:41,430 don't know what an algorithm is that you barely can turn on a 786 00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:42,690 computer or cemetery, 787 00:44:43,110 --> 00:44:46,710 Adam Curry: if I may, when it comes to technology reporting, 788 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,300 technology reporting. The day you walked out of the twit 789 00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:52,830 studio for the last time. 790 00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:57,900 John C Dvorak: There's some truth to that. Yeah. So so she 791 00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:03,060 says watermark Getting watermarking or watermarking. 792 00:45:03,060 --> 00:45:05,820 That's going to influence selection. Yes, that's right. 793 00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:10,290 Adam Curry: Wait, that would be quantum watermarks. Oh, yeah. 794 00:45:11,189 --> 00:45:13,919 John C Dvorak: Yeah, with a quantum dot. Right. And that way 795 00:45:13,919 --> 00:45:15,599 you can keep track of the ballots 796 00:45:16,410 --> 00:45:17,340 Adam Curry: from space. 797 00:45:18,329 --> 00:45:20,669 Unknown: Oh, here we go. And Schumer also told us that today 798 00:45:20,669 --> 00:45:24,419 the main theme is really how to, through taking bipartisan 799 00:45:24,629 --> 00:45:28,499 actions on regulating AI how to ensure that American public can 800 00:45:28,499 --> 00:45:31,949 enjoy the benefits with associated with AI but also 801 00:45:32,609 --> 00:45:35,969 risks associated with this fast evolving technology. The 802 00:45:35,970 --> 00:45:38,730 Adam Curry: benefits Oh, I can create a Drake song. 803 00:45:40,290 --> 00:45:42,330 Unknown: Of course, Today's meeting was so significant 804 00:45:42,330 --> 00:45:45,660 because it really drew together all the biggest names in this 805 00:45:45,660 --> 00:45:49,170 industry, including Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, as well as Bill 806 00:45:49,170 --> 00:45:52,800 Gates. And today Elon Musk in particular, told the public that 807 00:45:52,830 --> 00:45:56,790 Today's meeting was historic. He also warned about dangers with 808 00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:58,680 of, of AI, watch. 809 00:45:59,340 --> 00:46:05,490 The consequences of AI going wrong are severe. So we have to 810 00:46:05,490 --> 00:46:08,370 be proactive rather than reactive. But that there's some 811 00:46:08,370 --> 00:46:11,580 chance that is above zero, the AI will feel I think it's low. 812 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:13,470 But at this chance, 813 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:19,950 Adam Curry: Ah, okay. It's so bad. And you know, we should 814 00:46:19,950 --> 00:46:27,510 start our own mental health app. Because the the ladies and some 815 00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:32,310 gentlemen of Hill Country Maga country are so spun up over the 816 00:46:32,310 --> 00:46:38,070 idea that AI is already today. Built your man to your mask 817 00:46:38,070 --> 00:46:39,390 bumping like crazy, is 818 00:46:39,390 --> 00:46:41,400 John C Dvorak: basically bumped at this time. Okay, I'm gonna 819 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,710 tell you what happens. Exactly. So she can keep bringing it up 820 00:46:43,710 --> 00:46:46,980 Adam Curry: because we it sounds like this during the whole show. 821 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,950 John C Dvorak: No. Yes. And so I put my coffee cup down. And then 822 00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:57,540 when I read withdrew my arm, I have this this long thing and I 823 00:46:57,540 --> 00:47:01,200 banged into the whole structure of the microphone. 824 00:47:01,230 --> 00:47:05,550 Adam Curry: Okay, then you're, you're forgiven. So the ladies 825 00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:10,470 and gentlemen of Magha nation are so terrified of AI, they 826 00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:15,180 have been spun up to actually believe that AI they're already 827 00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:20,760 AI twins of each individual in the world. And these are your 828 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,270 Yeah, and there's even a documentary that one come from 829 00:47:24,270 --> 00:47:27,840 there's some documentary coming out that I have to say, I think 830 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,200 it's related to Laura Logan. She's very good at that spinning 831 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:36,150 people up. She's also a good journalist. But the whole idea 832 00:47:36,180 --> 00:47:40,110 John C Dvorak: is I like the idea of AI twins AI twins. And 833 00:47:40,110 --> 00:47:42,420 they already exist again to do this show. 834 00:47:43,740 --> 00:47:45,360 Adam Curry: That that's the whole that's it and then 835 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,940 eventually will just be their battery. You know that that's 836 00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:50,640 how it all ends is like, you know, there'll be you'll have a 837 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,850 computer's going to take over and you hear Musk Well, there's 838 00:47:53,850 --> 00:47:58,530 a better than zero chance that AI will destroy the world. Come 839 00:47:58,530 --> 00:48:01,920 on. Come on musket where 840 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,690 John C Dvorak: it Yeah, lay didn't know how that works. 841 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:10,440 Adam Curry: AI is more powerful than climate change. Okay, 842 00:48:10,799 --> 00:48:13,199 John C Dvorak: that's the question to ask him. That's what 843 00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:15,239 these people should do when they got him because he's out there 844 00:48:15,299 --> 00:48:18,179 asking answering questions. You think that we're gonna get 845 00:48:18,179 --> 00:48:21,719 killed by climate change? Or AI first? 846 00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:23,550 Adam Curry: Yeah, who's gonna win? Who's the first? 847 00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:26,070 John C Dvorak: Who's gonna be the who's gonna? Who's gonna 848 00:48:26,070 --> 00:48:29,040 kill us the most? So several Chinese 849 00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:32,700 Adam Curry: want to get the world the Chinese clearly 850 00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:35,250 because, you know, there's that whole element. I think there's 851 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,240 there's an element the other guys are coming in saying, Well, 852 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:46,140 I you know, China, China, China, China, China, China. Yeah, give 853 00:48:46,140 --> 00:48:46,950 us some money. 854 00:48:47,009 --> 00:48:49,079 Unknown: So several senators told us that they really 855 00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:52,469 appreciate this rare opportunity to directly listen to these 856 00:48:52,469 --> 00:48:56,309 leaders of the AI industry can learn more about this. But also 857 00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:58,589 there are some critics of today's meeting, including 858 00:48:58,649 --> 00:49:01,589 Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren, who told me that she did 859 00:49:01,589 --> 00:49:05,219 not understand why today's meeting was, was held behind 860 00:49:05,219 --> 00:49:08,129 closed doors. But still senators, including Chuck 861 00:49:08,129 --> 00:49:10,739 Schumer told me that they think today's meeting was very 862 00:49:10,739 --> 00:49:14,069 productive, and that it could help the US in this competition 863 00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:15,569 with China Watch. 864 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,110 And the fact that we can bring everybody together and fund with 865 00:49:19,110 --> 00:49:22,200 REG legislation that would move things forward on both sides 866 00:49:22,290 --> 00:49:26,340 will help us significantly there's not a world in which 867 00:49:26,340 --> 00:49:29,970 China like the government of China is 868 00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:33,900 trying very hard. But the leadership in AI is in the 869 00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:35,280 United States of America. 870 00:49:35,850 --> 00:49:37,410 Adam Curry: I couldn't understand anything at the end 871 00:49:37,410 --> 00:49:38,610 there. What was that what 872 00:49:40,410 --> 00:49:42,060 John C Dvorak: I had, that's where I cut it off and kept 873 00:49:42,060 --> 00:49:48,690 going. Yeah, a couple of things. Warren is right. Why was this a 874 00:49:48,690 --> 00:49:50,670 private closed door meeting? 875 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,510 Adam Curry: Because it was they were divvying something up. 876 00:49:54,690 --> 00:49:58,830 John C Dvorak: That's exactly right. There's some scam going 877 00:49:58,830 --> 00:50:03,660 on. So a money making scam and they didn't want the public to 878 00:50:03,660 --> 00:50:07,740 know about it. This wasn't about AI as much as it was. Exactly 879 00:50:07,740 --> 00:50:09,870 what you said divvying up something. 880 00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:12,690 Adam Curry: Yep. Let me there's no 881 00:50:12,690 --> 00:50:15,810 John C Dvorak: reason for this to be a closed hearing. It's not 882 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,380 public. It's not national security. There's nothing about 883 00:50:19,470 --> 00:50:22,770 this that says it should be a closed hearing Elizabeth Warren 884 00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:23,520 nailed it. 885 00:50:24,270 --> 00:50:27,150 Adam Curry: Let's listen to this TRT report that may find a 886 00:50:27,150 --> 00:50:28,830 couple more interesting little tidbits in it. 887 00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:32,369 Unknown: America's technology Titans was summoned to a forum 888 00:50:32,369 --> 00:50:37,319 with US lawmakers in Washington to discuss how to make AI safe 889 00:50:38,370 --> 00:50:41,100 Adam Curry: we need something like that technology Titans 890 00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:44,130 John C Dvorak: how to make it profitable technology Titans, 891 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,220 Adam Curry: we need like podcast plebs technology, Titans. 892 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,960 John C Dvorak: Podcast Titans. What? Podcast Titans 893 00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:54,990 Adam Curry: now it has to be something with the P O the 894 00:50:54,990 --> 00:50:59,970 alliteration. That's why I said podcast plebs, hutches, podcast 895 00:50:59,970 --> 00:51:00,630 buzzers 896 00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:03,690 Unknown: beating from which the media were excluded. The 897 00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:07,320 participants reached a unanimous agreement that the development 898 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,530 of artificial intelligence must be regulated. 899 00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:15,540 I asked everyone in the room is does his government needed to 900 00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:20,760 play a role in regulating AI and every single person? raise their 901 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,360 hands? 902 00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:23,490 Adam Curry: This is very interesting what Schumer says. 903 00:51:23,790 --> 00:51:28,470 He says, I asked everyone in the room this government needed and 904 00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:31,230 everyone's hand was raised. Does that mean they will be the day 905 00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:33,840 but does it mean they all said yes. Or do they just raise their 906 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:38,010 hands? He didn't say they all agreed. He says that when 907 00:51:38,010 --> 00:51:38,160 they're 908 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,980 John C Dvorak: trying to do a judge came to mind is there I'm 909 00:51:41,010 --> 00:51:45,810 listening to that clip. They want government regulation. 910 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,110 Yeah, of course they do. So they can Yeah, tick tock. This is 911 00:51:49,110 --> 00:51:50,940 about somehow, 912 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,080 Unknown: is does. The government needed to play a role in 913 00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:00,570 regulating AI and every single person raised their hands, even 914 00:52:00,570 --> 00:52:02,160 though they had diverse views. 915 00:52:02,340 --> 00:52:04,020 Adam Curry: So they so they weren't all in agreement, but 916 00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:06,750 they all raise their hands. Thanks, Charlie. So that 917 00:52:06,810 --> 00:52:09,480 Unknown: gives us a message here that we have to try to, 918 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,000 John C Dvorak: yeah, that you're foolish, as the process may be. 919 00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:17,550 Unknown: Regulations are on the Texas Dick Durbin table. And I 920 00:52:17,550 --> 00:52:22,140 believe they are reality in this field. It's a brand new field, 921 00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:23,490 and I think it needs some guidance. 922 00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:28,410 Elon Musk described the meeting as historic and important for 923 00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:30,450 the future of civilization. Now, 924 00:52:31,140 --> 00:52:32,520 the reason that I've been such an advocate 925 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,360 Adam Curry: for this podcast is in fact, important for the 926 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,710 future of civilization, not just AI, but this podcast, 927 00:52:40,830 --> 00:52:43,890 Unknown: and important for the future of civilization. Now, 928 00:52:44,460 --> 00:52:47,790 the reason that I've been such an advocate for AI safety in 929 00:52:47,790 --> 00:52:50,910 advance of sort of anything terrible happening is that I 930 00:52:50,910 --> 00:52:56,970 think the consequences of AI going wrong are severe. So we 931 00:52:56,970 --> 00:52:58,830 have to be active rather than reactive. 932 00:52:59,490 --> 00:53:02,970 The politicians now have to decide what regulation will mean 933 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,140 in practice. But it's all very well, lawmakers here agreeing 934 00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:10,590 that AI needs to be regulated. The problem is that other 935 00:53:10,590 --> 00:53:15,270 countries, most notably China, are likely to fall into step 936 00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:19,680 with decisions made by the US Congress. And there are fears 937 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,440 that that could mean us tech companies losing their 938 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,640 competitive advantage without the world being made any safer. 939 00:53:26,730 --> 00:53:29,280 Adam Curry: So this is so I think that they threw in this 940 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,490 China thing, because obviously, China's going to get state 941 00:53:32,490 --> 00:53:35,250 money, government money, and they're like, ah, you know, 942 00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:39,000 we'll call it regulation. But I, you know, we need we need money. 943 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,430 We need lots of money, because it's very expensive. These, you 944 00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:45,180 know, we got to buy all these chips from Nvidia and we need 945 00:53:45,180 --> 00:53:47,850 money, we need money and China, China, China, China, you don't 946 00:53:47,850 --> 00:53:50,670 want to be buying China Do you know and he said, Come to the 947 00:53:50,670 --> 00:53:53,130 secret meeting. We're all going to tell you how much you're 948 00:53:53,130 --> 00:53:57,210 gonna get. And we'll call it regulation. And here's my 949 00:53:57,210 --> 00:54:02,250 question to you. If if AI is going to if there's a larger 950 00:54:02,250 --> 00:54:07,020 than zero chance that AI will destroy the world, if this field 951 00:54:07,020 --> 00:54:11,430 is so new is so dangerous, that we need referees, we need 952 00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:15,840 government agencies we need we need we need regulation. They 953 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,560 can't even define it, but continue. Explain to me why this 954 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,480 is okay. CNBC, 955 00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:24,030 Unknown: the IRS has used its billions and new congressional 956 00:54:24,030 --> 00:54:27,240 funding in an interesting way. They have a battery of new AI 957 00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:30,150 tools, and they are launching a new crackdown on the wealthiest 958 00:54:30,450 --> 00:54:32,070 tax invader invaders. 959 00:54:33,090 --> 00:54:36,060 Adam Curry: Okay, so what you're saying is AI is very, very 960 00:54:36,060 --> 00:54:39,810 dangerous unleashed on the American people. Robert Frank 961 00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:41,640 Unknown: is here to discuss those details. Yeah, so the 962 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,850 new IRS commissioner, his goal here was first let's use all 963 00:54:44,850 --> 00:54:47,610 this money to help the service part of our business help people 964 00:54:47,700 --> 00:54:51,390 who you know want help paying their taxes understanding what 965 00:54:51,390 --> 00:54:54,450 they need to do. Now we're at phase two, which is go after the 966 00:54:54,450 --> 00:54:57,030 wealthy tax cheats and what they're doing is putting a lot 967 00:54:57,030 --> 00:55:00,000 of that money. Number one to enforcers they're gonna hire 10 968 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,570 have 1000s of auditors and enforces but number two is 969 00:55:03,570 --> 00:55:07,380 develop AI and machine learning to figure out what patterns they 970 00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:10,740 can find in tax returns, especially for these large 971 00:55:10,740 --> 00:55:15,060 partnerships that can help them identify where people are hiding 972 00:55:15,060 --> 00:55:18,090 their income. And that's where an agency not known for its 973 00:55:18,090 --> 00:55:22,230 technological prowess is going to really make a step change. 974 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,350 And I think this is a part where AI really can do some good 975 00:55:25,350 --> 00:55:30,330 because AI is great at these massive data questions, and huge 976 00:55:30,330 --> 00:55:33,540 computing power and applying that to finding the areas where 977 00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:36,990 humans didn't really see the patterns before but AI can't 978 00:55:37,110 --> 00:55:41,370 we just wrapped there that said it was going to target 1500 979 00:55:41,370 --> 00:55:43,320 millionaires with tax, 980 00:55:43,470 --> 00:55:46,230 I think it was tax debt of 250. 981 00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:49,560 That's one of the parts of this is they're they're going after 982 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,520 1600 People who have a million or more in income, who have 983 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,660 recognized tax debt. In other words, we known known, known and 984 00:55:57,660 --> 00:55:59,790 acknowledged by the taxpayer that they owe at least 985 00:55:59,790 --> 00:56:04,860 $250,000 1000 Excuse $250,000. And this could raise hundreds of 986 00:56:04,860 --> 00:56:07,200 millions of dollars if they return all that, you know, you 987 00:56:07,590 --> 00:56:10,560 do the math on, can they get away with this already? The IRS 988 00:56:10,590 --> 00:56:14,310 just didn't have the staff to go after them legally and get this 989 00:56:14,310 --> 00:56:14,820 money back? 990 00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:18,000 Adam Curry: I think I think they I think someone misreported I 991 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,330 think they meant 250 million, but I think the truth came out 992 00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:24,570 here, no, no, you have more than 250,000 in tax debt, which I 993 00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:28,500 think a lot of people have that. More than 1000. 994 00:56:29,460 --> 00:56:33,270 John C Dvorak: Well, with the tax rate being 40%, about 40%, 995 00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:39,360 with the Biden tax rate, to under 50,000. You'd have that 996 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,510 would be five deaths. That's less than a million in income. 997 00:56:43,290 --> 00:56:46,200 Adam Curry: Yeah. I think I think the truth was coming out, 998 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:46,620 you know, let's 999 00:56:46,620 --> 00:56:49,590 John C Dvorak: say 750,000 in income that people make, they're 1000 00:56:49,590 --> 00:56:53,250 gonna go after tax liability around that. And so that's, 1001 00:56:53,340 --> 00:56:55,800 Adam Curry: they're going after the rich people. They're going 1002 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,710 after small business small business. Yes. 1003 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,320 John C Dvorak: That's exactly what got to get rid of. That's 1004 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:02,430 what the whole idea is, 1005 00:57:02,580 --> 00:57:05,610 Adam Curry: you know, AI we need regulation is going to do it. We 1006 00:57:05,610 --> 00:57:09,510 need regulation but unleashed this. This monster on the 1007 00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:13,590 American people. You can't have it both ways. Meanwhile, in San 1008 00:57:13,590 --> 00:57:19,440 Francisco, the people are very happy with AI. This is a San 1009 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:28,080 Francisco civilian. Taking a pic ax to a cruise taxi. smashing 1010 00:57:28,110 --> 00:57:28,890 everything on 1011 00:57:28,890 --> 00:57:31,620 John C Dvorak: this car. Is the taxi honking at it. Yeah, that's 1012 00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:32,730 the taxi is honking 1013 00:57:34,110 --> 00:57:36,810 Adam Curry: and smashing the windshield, smashing the 1014 00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:40,110 spinning things on top, the FLIR whatever it is. 1015 00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:43,740 John C Dvorak: Yeah, LIDAR. LIDAR smashing 1016 00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:45,960 Adam Curry: the thing to bid. That's that's the proper 1017 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,070 reaction to this. 1018 00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:49,620 John C Dvorak: I think he should have stolen a lidar but okay, 1019 00:57:49,650 --> 00:57:53,010 but that is the proper response to this. And he will get caught 1020 00:57:53,010 --> 00:57:55,140 because it's San Francisco if he gets caught don't just let him 1021 00:57:55,140 --> 00:57:57,000 go. Go smash another one. 1022 00:57:57,990 --> 00:58:02,460 Adam Curry: But I mean, this this is so stop with the ball. 1023 00:58:02,460 --> 00:58:06,450 They've got digital twins. No, they're coming after you. With 1024 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,380 the coming after you for taxes. You tax invader. That's what she 1025 00:58:10,380 --> 00:58:14,250 said. Checks. He called it a tax invader at the beginning. Dummy, 1026 00:58:14,580 --> 00:58:21,240 dummy. Yeah, so I don't know. None of it sounds happy days to 1027 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:21,690 me. 1028 00:58:26,460 --> 00:58:28,320 John C Dvorak: Alright, well, we got some funnier stuff. 1029 00:58:29,850 --> 00:58:32,760 Adam Curry: We do. We got funnier stuff. 1030 00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:37,020 John C Dvorak: First of all, let's start with the Dick 1031 00:58:37,020 --> 00:58:41,460 Cheney. Good anti Trump Biden commercial. 1032 00:58:41,790 --> 00:58:44,010 Adam Curry: I think this is old. I'm just gonna have to say it 1033 00:58:44,010 --> 00:58:45,510 right off the bat. I think this is 1034 00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:48,000 John C Dvorak: I think it's old too. I just found it though. We 1035 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,220 played it and you seen it before? We played it. 1036 00:58:50,250 --> 00:58:54,510 Adam Curry: Yeah, this Yeah. This goes back to let me let me 1037 00:58:54,510 --> 00:58:55,350 see. Okay, then 1038 00:58:55,350 --> 00:58:57,090 John C Dvorak: let's scrap that scrap it because I don't want to 1039 00:58:57,090 --> 00:58:59,220 play anything old because that goes back to when 1040 00:58:59,220 --> 00:59:02,610 Adam Curry: his daughter was on the J six commission. That's 1041 00:59:02,610 --> 00:59:03,540 when that came out. 1042 00:59:03,870 --> 00:59:05,460 John C Dvorak: So get rid of it. 1043 00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:10,110 Adam Curry: Go straight to Biden go straight to the go straight 1044 00:59:10,110 --> 00:59:10,740 to the punch line. 1045 00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:12,780 John C Dvorak: I only have one Biden clip. I want to save it 1046 00:59:12,780 --> 00:59:13,200 now. Okay. 1047 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,250 Adam Curry: All right. All right. 1048 00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:16,800 John C Dvorak: Let's go to some story that I think is a little 1049 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,560 more pertinent something that's kind of not being played up is 1050 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,530 definitely Savannah Guthrie is not talking about it. The 1051 00:59:22,530 --> 00:59:25,290 situation of the libraries in Canada, 1052 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,110 Adam Curry: though this is new to me the libraries in Canada 1053 00:59:28,110 --> 00:59:30,540 what's happening? Check it out. 1054 00:59:30,570 --> 00:59:34,710 Unknown: Some school libraries just outside Toronto have half 1055 00:59:34,740 --> 00:59:40,230 empty shelves 1000s of books, their status in limbo that could 1056 00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:43,560 be headed to the landfill. It's all part of a weeding out 1057 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,350 process. The Peel District School Board is going through 1058 00:59:46,350 --> 00:59:49,860 and Angelina King reports this morning on how the process has 1059 00:59:49,860 --> 00:59:54,570 led to inconsistency and concern from students and parents. 1060 00:59:54,690 --> 00:59:58,380 Harry Potter The Very Hungry Caterpillar The Diary of Anne 1061 00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:01,620 Frank, those are all some of the books we've been told to have 1062 01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:04,950 been removed from some school libraries as part of this 1063 01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:08,280 weeding process, of course all very different books, which 1064 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,000 speaks to the confusion and inconsistency parents and 1065 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,000 students are telling us that they're concerned about. So 1066 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,640 first, I'll give you just a little bit of background on how 1067 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,660 all of this is supposed to work. Like most libraries in Canada, 1068 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,200 in Canada, the school libraries within the Peel District School 1069 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,890 Board are to weed out books that are damaged, outdated or 1070 01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:32,430 irrelevant. But at Peel schools, there's a little bit more to it. 1071 01:00:32,730 --> 01:00:36,240 Librarians and others have to read the books and ensure that 1072 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,060 they are inclusive and also ensure that they don't 1073 01:00:39,060 --> 01:00:43,710 reinforced racist content, or include stereotypes if they do 1074 01:00:43,860 --> 01:00:44,760 they have to go. 1075 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,710 Adam Curry: Oh, okay. 1076 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,050 John C Dvorak: Oh, Mark Twain. Goodbye. 1077 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,480 Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. Hello To Kill a Mockingbird. All 1078 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:51,960 right. So 1079 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,060 John C Dvorak: they're taken. And it turns out, they're taken 1080 01:00:54,060 --> 01:01:02,100 everything printed, or published before 2008. out it goes, 1081 01:01:02,130 --> 01:01:05,100 Adam Curry: first thing to go. 1984. Brave New World get it 1082 01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:05,490 out. Yeah, 1083 01:01:05,490 --> 01:01:10,380 John C Dvorak: those books gone. Out of here. Yeah, so the books 1084 01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:13,140 now, and this is a big deal. And the Canadians are a little bent 1085 01:01:13,140 --> 01:01:15,780 out of shape about it. But they haven't done anything about it. 1086 01:01:15,780 --> 01:01:16,920 Yeah, the Skoda part two. 1087 01:01:17,190 --> 01:01:20,370 Unknown: Now I spoke with some who are concerned about how all 1088 01:01:20,370 --> 01:01:23,850 of that is being handled, including some students as well 1089 01:01:23,850 --> 01:01:25,980 as a group that's against the process. 1090 01:01:26,220 --> 01:01:28,770 I'm not comfortable giving anyone the power to be the 1091 01:01:28,770 --> 01:01:33,360 arbiter on a huge basis of what's right and wrong, from a 1092 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,640 library's perspective about the totality 1093 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,910 of ideas that are available. And someone who's of Japanese 1094 01:01:38,910 --> 01:01:45,360 descent, I think that people's authors who wrote about Japanese 1095 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,620 internment camps are going to be erased and the entire events 1096 01:01:49,620 --> 01:01:52,920 that went on historically for Japanese Canadians are going to 1097 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,860 be removed. And to me, that worries me a lot. 1098 01:01:56,340 --> 01:01:59,340 So staff are supposed to focus on books that were published in 1099 01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:04,440 2008 or prior, but that seems to have led to some confusion and 1100 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,470 half empty shelves at some schools like the one you're 1101 01:02:07,470 --> 01:02:11,340 looking at in Mississauga. Now, we've been told that it appears 1102 01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:15,630 some schools have simply removed nearly all of the books in the 1103 01:02:15,630 --> 01:02:18,510 library published in 2008. Or prior 1104 01:02:18,540 --> 01:02:21,330 Adam Curry: what was 2008? What was it about 1105 01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:24,180 John C Dvorak: 2000 was trying to find trying to find a reason 1106 01:02:24,180 --> 01:02:27,240 for the 2008 cut off point. 1107 01:02:27,330 --> 01:02:33,090 Adam Curry: I mean, Obama. Obama in America, but that that 1108 01:02:33,090 --> 01:02:35,700 doesn't make any sense. What happens? So 1109 01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:37,500 John C Dvorak: there's got to be some rationale. Maybe some 1110 01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:40,590 Canadian out there listening would tell us what why to have 1111 01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:44,670 all the years. Why 2008, 1112 01:02:45,090 --> 01:02:48,240 Unknown: which people have a big concern about there's also seems 1113 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,510 to be confusion about where these books are supposed to go. 1114 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,530 Many have actually wound up in the landfill, because I believe 1115 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,490 that's what they were supposed to do with the school board 1116 01:02:59,490 --> 01:03:02,700 about that. It says that staff have been told to follow 1117 01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:07,110 regional recycling guidelines. I spoke with the school board. He 1118 01:03:07,110 --> 01:03:10,860 believes this process rolled out incorrectly. He says trustees 1119 01:03:10,860 --> 01:03:14,280 now have implemented changes to ensure transparency and 1120 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,970 accountability. So now staff are supposed to track which books 1121 01:03:17,970 --> 01:03:19,200 are removed NY 1122 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,930 Adam Curry: da, this is great. I mean, this mirrors the United 1123 01:03:21,930 --> 01:03:25,290 States, of course, but let's let's get any set up to the 1124 01:03:25,290 --> 01:03:26,940 third clip in this series. 1125 01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:28,650 John C Dvorak: Know this go for it. 1126 01:03:28,890 --> 01:03:32,250 Unknown: We want to make sure that as we move forward as a 1127 01:03:32,250 --> 01:03:35,820 board, not only that all students are feeling included, 1128 01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:39,900 we want to make sure that the books are any materials that are 1129 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,950 in the school and in our library are relevant to the teaching. 1130 01:03:44,550 --> 01:03:47,460 We asked the board several questions like how many books 1131 01:03:47,460 --> 01:03:51,150 are expected to be removed? How many are in landfills? And how 1132 01:03:51,150 --> 01:03:54,450 much it'll cost to replace them. But the board didn't answer 1133 01:03:54,450 --> 01:03:58,170 those questions, instead saying it's working to ensure the books 1134 01:03:58,170 --> 01:04:01,620 are culturally responsive, inclusive and diverse. 1135 01:04:02,070 --> 01:04:05,820 Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness. Is that the 2008? Is that when 1136 01:04:05,850 --> 01:04:08,460 white privilege was published? I mean, there's got to be some 1137 01:04:08,460 --> 01:04:09,390 reason people. 1138 01:04:10,740 --> 01:04:15,150 John C Dvorak: Everything before 2008 is no good. Well, I can 1139 01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:18,930 tell you is Unbeliev. This story, by the way is outrageous. 1140 01:04:19,110 --> 01:04:21,750 And the Canadians going Oh, well. I don't know what to do 1141 01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:25,620 about it. It's out of control. This is ridiculous. You can't do 1142 01:04:25,620 --> 01:04:28,560 what they're doing. And it's almost like just the opposite of 1143 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,570 what they're trying to do in Florida, which is getting 1144 01:04:30,750 --> 01:04:35,760 profane books out of the school library. Not not Mark Twain. 1145 01:04:35,790 --> 01:04:38,010 Adam Curry: Ah, welcome to 1146 01:04:38,190 --> 01:04:40,590 Unknown: now it's time for our Trojan smiles 1147 01:04:40,620 --> 01:04:44,760 Adam Curry: gender, self destruct initiated. It's it's 1148 01:04:44,790 --> 01:04:50,640 it's very similar actually. You know, the it's just the reverse 1149 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,690 World Canada is throwing stuff out they deem no good. And in 1150 01:04:54,690 --> 01:04:57,240 the United States, they just put stuff in the door. This is good 1151 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,330 for kids. We need to have you oh yeah, this is good for kids. And 1152 01:05:00,330 --> 01:05:04,230 boy, was there an interesting hearing up on Capitol Hill 1153 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,250 Unknown: over banning books got contentious on Capitol Hill 1154 01:05:08,250 --> 01:05:09,000 yesterday. 1155 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,360 To all the parents out there who believe there's a bunch of stuff 1156 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,510 in our schools being pushed on your children that go over the 1157 01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:18,480 line. You're absolutely right. Thanks libertarian 1158 01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:22,320 regimes banned books, not democracies. 1159 01:05:22,380 --> 01:05:25,110 Illinois Secretary of State testified before a Senate 1160 01:05:25,110 --> 01:05:29,400 committee to promote an Illinois law that prevents banning books 1161 01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:32,670 Dr. Libraries have become targets by a movement that 1162 01:05:32,670 --> 01:05:34,830 disingenuously claims to pursue freedom. 1163 01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:38,640 Some Republican led states have restricted certain books where 1164 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,880 kids have access to them. Most of the books include stories 1165 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:46,410 about racism, sexuality, or gender identity, Florida removed 1166 01:05:46,410 --> 01:05:51,360 nearly 400 titles last year, the hearing turned racy at one point 1167 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,930 as Louisiana Senator John Kennedy read explicit scenes 1168 01:05:55,020 --> 01:05:56,730 from two of the banned books, 1169 01:05:56,790 --> 01:05:59,460 the words you spoke are disturbing, especially coming 1170 01:05:59,460 --> 01:06:01,830 out of your mouth. It's very disturbing. We are advocating 1171 01:06:01,830 --> 01:06:05,880 for parents, random parents not to have the ability under the 1172 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:10,740 guise of keeping kids safe. To try and challenge the world view 1173 01:06:10,740 --> 01:06:13,440 of every single manner on these issues. You're getting 1174 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,690 a conceptual game, I'm not good at conceptual 1175 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,750 Democrats and Republicans did agree some books are 1176 01:06:18,750 --> 01:06:22,470 inappropriate for children, but they were unable to agree on who 1177 01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:26,670 has the responsibility to censor the books, parents or the state, 1178 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,720 they should be removing these Shame on them if they don't, and 1179 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,960 Shame on those who want to groom children sexually. No one 1180 01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:37,710 is advocating for sexually explicit content to be available 1181 01:06:38,010 --> 01:06:41,010 in an elementary school library. But no parents should have the 1182 01:06:41,010 --> 01:06:44,310 right to tell another parents child what they can and cannot 1183 01:06:44,310 --> 01:06:45,660 read in school or at home. 1184 01:06:45,780 --> 01:06:48,360 Adam Curry: Okay, so just the fact that we're talking about 1185 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:53,220 books and libraries means we are living in a dystopian world, no 1186 01:06:53,220 --> 01:06:56,940 matter what side you're on. It's all dystopian, it's all you 1187 01:06:56,940 --> 01:06:58,290 crazy. What what 1188 01:06:58,350 --> 01:07:01,440 John C Dvorak: I thought you would I didn't get it. I thought 1189 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,980 you'd clip it for sure. Which was Kennedy's reading from the 1190 01:07:04,980 --> 01:07:05,370 books. 1191 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,920 Adam Curry: I have both of those clips, and I'm not going to play 1192 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:12,270 them. I'm leaving. I'm leaving them in the show notes. Because 1193 01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:16,050 I know you it's actually too much. It's too much and it 1194 01:07:16,050 --> 01:07:19,050 John C Dvorak: is it is too much. But Kennedy reads from the 1195 01:07:19,050 --> 01:07:20,220 books are discussed. 1196 01:07:20,250 --> 01:07:22,290 Adam Curry: I have more clips here. Let me play because 1197 01:07:22,290 --> 01:07:26,880 there's the core question is when it comes to school 1198 01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:30,330 libraries, there's a difference that just saying libraries. 1199 01:07:30,330 --> 01:07:32,910 They're bad they're burning books. It's horrible. The Nazis 1200 01:07:32,910 --> 01:07:33,930 Wow, that really 1201 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,160 John C Dvorak: take it for granted as is the example of 1202 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:39,810 where this is really headed. But 1203 01:07:39,930 --> 01:07:42,450 Adam Curry: I am in agreement with you but they have this 1204 01:07:43,050 --> 01:07:50,550 representative of the LGBTQ plus i Two Spirit librarians mix 1205 01:07:51,210 --> 01:07:52,890 named mix, Cameron. 1206 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,640 John C Dvorak: Now Oh, another mix, you know, mixes a popular 1207 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:57,390 name amongst a 1208 01:07:58,050 --> 01:08:00,300 Adam Curry: very popular name. And we'll get to mix in a 1209 01:08:00,300 --> 01:08:04,830 moment. And I'm skipping the quotes from all boys aren't blue 1210 01:08:04,830 --> 01:08:08,190 and the gender queer books, I put the links, the clips are in 1211 01:08:08,190 --> 01:08:13,950 the show notes. You can listen to it. It's it's all meant for 1212 01:08:13,950 --> 01:08:17,610 shock value and none of its good. But this there was some 1213 01:08:17,610 --> 01:08:20,100 actual stuff that was discussed that is worth listening to. 1214 01:08:20,130 --> 01:08:24,420 Unknown: Mr. Secretary. What are you asking us to do? There you 1215 01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:33,390 go. Are you suggesting that only librarians should decide whether 1216 01:08:33,390 --> 01:08:38,940 the two books that I just referenced should be available 1217 01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:44,370 to kids? Is that what you're saying? No. Okay, tell me what 1218 01:08:44,370 --> 01:08:45,120 you're saying. 1219 01:08:46,770 --> 01:08:47,550 John C Dvorak: First of all, 1220 01:08:47,580 --> 01:08:50,250 Unknown: there's this Don't give me a speech. Tell me what you're 1221 01:08:50,250 --> 01:08:51,300 asking me to do. 1222 01:08:51,330 --> 01:08:54,270 With all due respect, Senator and the words you spoke are 1223 01:08:54,270 --> 01:08:56,580 disturbing, especially coming out of your mouth is very 1224 01:08:56,580 --> 01:08:59,730 disturbing. But I would I would also tell you that 1225 01:09:00,089 --> 01:09:03,059 Adam Curry: why is it especially coming out of your mouth, Mr. 1226 01:09:03,089 --> 01:09:05,999 Mr. Kennedy? Why is it especially disturbing coming out 1227 01:09:05,999 --> 01:09:06,329 of his mouth? 1228 01:09:06,330 --> 01:09:07,320 John C Dvorak: That's a good catch. 1229 01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:09,179 Adam Curry: I don't understand why especially. 1230 01:09:10,140 --> 01:09:11,730 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Why especially 1231 01:09:11,729 --> 01:09:14,639 Adam Curry: at blow job. I mean, why especially and we're 1232 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,370 Unknown: not advocating for kids to report to Senator Booker's. 1233 01:09:17,370 --> 01:09:22,620 Why are you advocating for we are advocating for parents, 1234 01:09:22,710 --> 01:09:25,710 random parents not to have the ability under the guise of 1235 01:09:25,710 --> 01:09:26,790 keeping kids safe, 1236 01:09:26,819 --> 01:09:30,779 Adam Curry: random parents to try and challenge what kind of 1237 01:09:30,779 --> 01:09:36,119 parent is a random parent? What is this random parents world 1238 01:09:36,150 --> 01:09:38,700 Unknown: view of every single manner on these issues? You're 1239 01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:41,970 getting a conceptual game? I'm not going to consider changing 1240 01:09:41,970 --> 01:09:45,780 war. Yes, you are. Because you I want to know what you're 1241 01:09:45,780 --> 01:09:49,560 recommending. It sounds to me like some of you are saying the 1242 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:54,600 librarians should decide who gets to see that book. 1243 01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:56,820 I'm saying when you're making one individual parents are 1244 01:09:56,820 --> 01:10:00,210 allowed to make a decision of what where that line is and And 1245 01:10:00,270 --> 01:10:02,820 To Kill a Mockingbird, which involves a rape scene should 1246 01:10:02,820 --> 01:10:05,460 that book be pulled from our libraries? I think it becomes a 1247 01:10:05,460 --> 01:10:05,760 slip 1248 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,370 up I think you ought to think about it a little bit more 1249 01:10:08,370 --> 01:10:11,520 before you come here I've thought you're going to propose 1250 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,730 something you ought to be able in 30 seconds to be able to 1251 01:10:14,730 --> 01:10:16,680 explain when they're asking us to do 1252 01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:19,530 Adam Curry: so needless to say Alexei had nothing so now we go 1253 01:10:19,530 --> 01:10:23,340 to mix mix well mix had a bow tie and 1254 01:10:24,090 --> 01:10:27,300 John C Dvorak: to his mix of what what, what was the apparent 1255 01:10:27,300 --> 01:10:29,700 agender? If you were to guess 1256 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:34,500 Adam Curry: well mix look like a dude with a dude hair and a bow 1257 01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:39,330 tie. And a pink jacket, like salmon color, really? And some 1258 01:10:39,330 --> 01:10:41,820 kind of two spirits out of style. And yeah, that was 1259 01:10:41,970 --> 01:10:42,930 definitely style. 1260 01:10:43,260 --> 01:10:52,260 Unknown: Let me skip me for a second Mr. Cameron, tell me what 1261 01:10:52,260 --> 01:10:53,820 you're you're proposing. 1262 01:10:53,940 --> 01:10:56,670 It's pronounced next mix? 1263 01:10:57,630 --> 01:10:59,340 How would you like me to refer to you, 1264 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:04,530 Senator, your definition of sexual is synonymous with LGBTQ 1265 01:11:04,530 --> 01:11:05,130 identity 1266 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,070 live? I'm asking you that I'm asking you to tell me you read 1267 01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:09,210 those two excerpts. 1268 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:10,020 Genderqueer. 1269 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:14,490 That? Are you asking that only librarians and not parents have 1270 01:11:14,490 --> 01:11:18,120 any say? And whether minors can read those books? Is that what 1271 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,560 you're saying? gender queer 1272 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,380 has never been in my school library. So it's never been 1273 01:11:22,380 --> 01:11:23,310 bashed proposal 1274 01:11:23,340 --> 01:11:27,300 was should it be up just to the librarian? Or Should parents 1275 01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:28,020 have a say 1276 01:11:28,620 --> 01:11:32,310 there should be facilitation of collaboration between students, 1277 01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:36,000 parents? Parents should be working with students and 1278 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,390 educators to be making decisions because students 1279 01:11:39,690 --> 01:11:42,570 whose a five year old cannot leave the librarian or do you 1280 01:11:42,570 --> 01:11:44,850 take a vote? Or who takes the vote? 1281 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,470 Book review committees in the community and my school 1282 01:11:49,470 --> 01:11:50,130 district, 1283 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:54,420 you want to committee to our committees? Okay. Well, I'm 1284 01:11:54,420 --> 01:11:59,970 asking you, How do we decide whether the two books that I 1285 01:11:59,970 --> 01:12:04,410 just referenced should be available in the library? What 1286 01:12:04,410 --> 01:12:07,320 would you if you were, if you were running thanks? What would 1287 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:07,740 you do? 1288 01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:12,660 Our boys aren't blue, the scene you mentioned is about sexual 1289 01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:12,900 abuse 1290 01:12:12,929 --> 01:12:17,339 know what to do in terms of making the books available? 1291 01:12:17,519 --> 01:12:20,789 Would you say anybody can see them? Or they have to be in a 1292 01:12:20,789 --> 01:12:21,929 special session? 1293 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,590 Students who do not read books, like all boys are in blue cannot 1294 01:12:25,590 --> 01:12:29,760 learn what is understand they cannot learn stem, but they want 1295 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:34,080 to answer my question. You come here and you say, censorship is 1296 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:38,490 bad. And of course, it's bad. But the honest responses, okay, 1297 01:12:38,490 --> 01:12:41,520 you heard the books we're talking about? Okay, we're not 1298 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:46,260 talking about Catcher in the Rye. So tell me what you want. 1299 01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:51,600 Who gets to decide and all I've heard is the librarians. And 1300 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,410 parents have nothing to do with it. And if that's your response, 1301 01:12:55,410 --> 01:12:58,530 what planet did you just parachute in from? Parents? 1302 01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,220 Senator what country more appropriately? That's not China. 1303 01:13:02,250 --> 01:13:04,890 Adam Curry: Now Canada is Canada. That's where he's coming 1304 01:13:04,890 --> 01:13:07,080 from Canada. We'll wrap it up with this parents. 1305 01:13:08,310 --> 01:13:10,920 Unknown: Parents absolutely have a say, my parents were 1306 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,110 immigrants came to this country. We'd never checked out books 1307 01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:16,260 without our parents seeing what what books we were reading, they 1308 01:13:16,260 --> 01:13:16,800 encouraged us 1309 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,250 to understand this is good for your politics back home. It's 1310 01:13:20,250 --> 01:13:25,650 got nothing to do. Everything to do with came here to do you came 1311 01:13:25,650 --> 01:13:27,810 here with a problem. And I'm trying to understand the 1312 01:13:27,810 --> 01:13:29,520 solution and you don't have one, 1313 01:13:29,550 --> 01:13:30,900 we solve the solution, then we 1314 01:13:32,340 --> 01:13:35,280 tell us that we don't agree with you. You're on the wrong. We'll 1315 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:36,570 be on the wrong side of history. We 1316 01:13:36,570 --> 01:13:39,630 solved the problem in Illinois. We fixed it, because we 1317 01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:42,930 well, there's others you could work on? Well, that's why I'm 1318 01:13:42,930 --> 01:13:43,590 out of the home. 1319 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,460 Adam Curry: How about this government should have no say in 1320 01:13:47,460 --> 01:13:49,950 the matter? How about that? How about department of education 1321 01:13:49,950 --> 01:13:56,220 shouldn't be around even exist? This is all all is where we're 1322 01:13:56,220 --> 01:13:59,760 going not with taking it too far. 1323 01:13:59,790 --> 01:14:00,540 John C Dvorak: Good stuff. 1324 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,130 Adam Curry: But I didn't know that it had spread to to Canada. 1325 01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:06,360 That's that's pretty 1326 01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:09,000 John C Dvorak: Canada's taking the complete opposite approach. 1327 01:14:09,630 --> 01:14:11,010 Yeah, but there let's get rid of 1328 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,330 Adam Curry: everything. For 2008 2008. Before make 1329 01:14:15,330 --> 01:14:16,770 John C Dvorak: sure all the books that we have are 1330 01:14:16,770 --> 01:14:21,990 inclusive. Yeah. Yeah, that means there's gonna be nothing 1331 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,220 in the library. 1332 01:14:27,060 --> 01:14:34,380 Adam Curry: There was an interesting case. A girl who 1333 01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:38,670 transitioned after two visits to her psychiatrist has 1334 01:14:38,700 --> 01:14:42,570 successfully sued her psychiatrists for professional 1335 01:14:42,570 --> 01:14:45,960 negligence. This is coming to an end now. 1336 01:14:46,559 --> 01:14:48,779 John C Dvorak: The well there's also this big suit against I 1337 01:14:48,779 --> 01:14:56,849 think it's Minnesota hospital. Yeah. sued yes by a girl who is 1338 01:14:57,509 --> 01:15:02,249 D transitioned out After they cut off her breasts, I don't 1339 01:15:02,249 --> 01:15:05,489 know if they sterilized her or not. Oh, more than that. But 1340 01:15:05,519 --> 01:15:10,709 there has to be some legal piece. The Legal Eagles in these 1341 01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:14,999 large organizations have to consider the possibility of 1342 01:15:15,059 --> 01:15:18,659 massive settlements. Because you can imagine what a jury is going 1343 01:15:18,659 --> 01:15:22,079 to do you get one of these cases before a jury and you got some 1344 01:15:22,079 --> 01:15:28,439 girl who's been disfigured, let's say, Yeah, specifically 1345 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,799 and life ruined. Yeah, especially if she's been 1346 01:15:31,799 --> 01:15:35,699 sterilized, and go and has a sob story to tell about how she was 1347 01:15:35,699 --> 01:15:38,309 tucked into it and didn't like the idea, but they'd made her do 1348 01:15:38,309 --> 01:15:41,849 it anyway. And it costs all this money, that of settlement 1349 01:15:41,879 --> 01:15:45,029 amounts are going to be astronomical. Yeah. 1350 01:15:45,719 --> 01:15:53,669 astronomical. Yeah, these hospitals are right up against 1351 01:15:53,669 --> 01:15:57,119 it for for trying to pull this off. And there, they better 1352 01:15:57,119 --> 01:15:59,759 start backtracking as fast as they can, because there's 1353 01:15:59,969 --> 01:16:03,239 already there's this in the pipeline. And I just don't see 1354 01:16:03,239 --> 01:16:07,079 anything but some massive lawsuits against the hospitals, 1355 01:16:07,079 --> 01:16:10,349 the doctors, the psychiatrists, and everybody in between. And 1356 01:16:10,349 --> 01:16:14,489 they're not going to get past if it goes to a jury. There's no 1357 01:16:14,489 --> 01:16:19,529 jury you can possibly select as a normal jury that is not going 1358 01:16:19,529 --> 01:16:23,309 to side with it with the patient. There's not I can't 1359 01:16:23,309 --> 01:16:25,409 imagine that ever happening. Meanwhile, with 1360 01:16:25,410 --> 01:16:30,330 Adam Curry: the new schools, the school year is starting off in 1361 01:16:30,330 --> 01:16:34,830 the United States. Parents are beside themselves with a worry 1362 01:16:34,830 --> 01:16:38,130 and outrage that they have to send their children to school 1363 01:16:38,130 --> 01:16:43,140 without the allotted amount of ADHD medication they need to get 1364 01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:50,850 through the day. Yes, there is a drastic shortage of Adderall, 1365 01:16:50,850 --> 01:16:56,340 Vyvanse and other such such medications. Parents are sending 1366 01:16:56,340 --> 01:17:00,480 their kids is Vyvanse. Vyvanse is the same as Adderall only it 1367 01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:04,440 has a delayed action. So delayed release 1368 01:17:04,589 --> 01:17:06,839 John C Dvorak: kind of fancy Adderall. 1369 01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:09,900 Adam Curry: Yeah. Kind of like I don't know, what was the opioid 1370 01:17:09,900 --> 01:17:14,040 that had the fancy release? Yeah, you know what I'm talking 1371 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,640 about time released time release. That's it. So why is 1372 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:23,910 this why has this happened? Is it because of China? Nope. What 1373 01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:28,710 happened? Well, as it turns out, use of prescription stimulants 1374 01:17:28,710 --> 01:17:32,550 such as Adderall and Vyvanse, which can mitigate ADHD 1375 01:17:32,550 --> 01:17:39,090 symptoms. I'm reading from Bloomberg. Rose 46%. In the last 1376 01:17:39,090 --> 01:17:43,920 10 years partly driven by the pandemic era surge of here comes 1377 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:51,600 telehealth prescribing among adults telehealth prescribing 1378 01:17:51,630 --> 01:17:56,910 among adults we we are a drugged up nation. 1379 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,060 John C Dvorak: We love speed yes math 1380 01:18:00,090 --> 01:18:03,180 Adam Curry: speed. And the parents are sending their kids 1381 01:18:03,180 --> 01:18:06,480 to school with caffeine drinks to supplement the Adderall 1382 01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:10,380 because they don't have enough at what point do people wake up 1383 01:18:10,380 --> 01:18:16,980 and go you know you know maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe this 1384 01:18:16,980 --> 01:18:25,200 doesn't make sense we deserve it all I guess 1385 01:18:25,950 --> 01:18:27,090 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well there's always been an 1386 01:18:27,090 --> 01:18:29,640 underground for this is just a move that above ground figure 1387 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,490 the white wire the drug dealers making money on this stuff. 1388 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,070 Adam Curry: We're talking we're talking seven year olds John 1389 01:18:35,070 --> 01:18:36,210 seven year old kid 1390 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,420 John C Dvorak: doesn't like I said they weren't you? Yeah, no 1391 01:18:39,420 --> 01:18:42,750 one is much no one used to dress they're so clever. Seven year 1392 01:18:42,750 --> 01:18:43,350 old with some. 1393 01:18:43,380 --> 01:18:47,130 Adam Curry: No, of course you didn't. And it goes like this. 1394 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,430 Oh, you know, little Johnny was just out of control. He was 1395 01:18:50,430 --> 01:18:52,560 really it was too much to handle. But now we've got him on 1396 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,160 his meds. He's getting A's and B's. He's getting A's and B's. 1397 01:18:56,220 --> 01:18:59,130 He's so good at concerts. The kid is frying his brain is 1398 01:18:59,130 --> 01:19:03,600 burning out. burning out. I tell you burning out. 1399 01:19:06,090 --> 01:19:08,430 John C Dvorak: Well, the guy again bringing it back to Joe 1400 01:19:08,430 --> 01:19:11,880 Biden. Yeah, there we go. Talking about burning out. I 1401 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,390 mean, they give him they juice him up. And he's gusta does 1402 01:19:15,420 --> 01:19:18,150 that's where I think there's a big speech coming, where they're 1403 01:19:18,150 --> 01:19:21,450 going to juice them up again and he's going to come off with you 1404 01:19:21,450 --> 01:19:24,510 know, instead of the mumbling fumbling Joe Biden is going to 1405 01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:28,800 be the yelling screaming Gotcha. You know, go nuts. Joe Biden. I 1406 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,070 have I want I'd like people to start collecting these because I 1407 01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:38,070 have only 31 seconds of these. Biden jacked up super cut, but I 1408 01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:41,400 think we can make this I like to get about five minutes of them. 1409 01:19:41,460 --> 01:19:43,980 Unknown: Can you imagine looking at your child or changing 1410 01:19:43,980 --> 01:19:48,450 people's lives? We beat forever this year. Think about what 1411 01:19:48,450 --> 01:19:53,040 you'd think about. Take everything away from you without 1412 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:57,060 unions or been on middle class. I'm sick of this stuff. Well, 1413 01:19:57,060 --> 01:20:03,750 I'm sick and tired are smart guys. I'm not more sure he was a 1414 01:20:03,750 --> 01:20:09,390 patriot. There are not a single thing we can not do. Not a 1415 01:20:09,390 --> 01:20:12,930 single thing. Thank you. Go get him. 1416 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:21,300 Adam Curry: His brain has gotten his brain has gone, Jim. Yes. 1417 01:20:21,330 --> 01:20:25,800 Well, there was an interesting article in the Washington Post 1418 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:32,280 by Uber leftist. Superman, which David Ignatius? 1419 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,090 John C Dvorak: Yes, they have a clip discussing this. Oh, I 1420 01:20:36,090 --> 01:20:39,390 Adam Curry: have a couple two but happy to play yours first. 1421 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,140 John C Dvorak: This is the media turning on Biden WaPo. 1422 01:20:43,620 --> 01:20:46,680 Unknown: And speaking of politicians age, a columnist for 1423 01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,610 the Washington Post is offering his thoughts and an op ed 1424 01:20:50,610 --> 01:20:54,330 columnist David Ignatius argue that President Biden is too old 1425 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:59,400 to run again in 2024. Ignatius said he doesn't think Biden and 1426 01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:03,120 vice president Harris should run for reelection. He pointed to 1427 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,840 voters concerns over Biden's age and Harris's low approval 1428 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:11,460 ratings. Biden is currently 80 years old and would be 82. At 1429 01:21:11,460 --> 01:21:15,300 the beginning of a second term. The columnist called Biden's age 1430 01:21:15,300 --> 01:21:19,140 a big liability and said it's become the subject of dinner 1431 01:21:19,140 --> 01:21:22,860 table conversations across America this summer. As to 1432 01:21:22,860 --> 01:21:25,890 Harris, the columnist said she quote failed to gain traction in 1433 01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:29,880 the country or even within her own party. Ignatius touted what 1434 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,120 he considers Biden's achievements, but said the Biden 1435 01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,260 withdrawing from the 2024 race would be a wise choice for the 1436 01:21:37,260 --> 01:21:37,980 country. 1437 01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:41,280 Adam Curry: Yes, Whopper Whopper Whopper Whopper WaPo. And David 1438 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:45,090 Ignatius showed up on the morning Joe's with Mika and Joe 1439 01:21:45,090 --> 01:21:48,300 Scarborough and Mika. Well, she had the only question that 1440 01:21:48,300 --> 01:21:48,720 matters, 1441 01:21:48,750 --> 01:21:52,170 Unknown: who would be an alternative right now, who could 1442 01:21:52,170 --> 01:21:54,750 do that on day one? A legitimate one. 1443 01:21:55,440 --> 01:22:00,720 So I can't name you that person. The thing about the democratic 1444 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:05,670 process is that it yields answers to questions like that 1445 01:22:05,700 --> 01:22:11,550 through this amazing phenomenon. I still believe in I believe 1446 01:22:11,550 --> 01:22:18,090 that that open discussion that nominating campaigns, produce 1447 01:22:18,090 --> 01:22:21,750 clarity produce candidates produce leaders. I couldn't 1448 01:22:21,750 --> 01:22:24,960 agree more that Biden has been a strong leader in foreign policy 1449 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:28,200 and domestic policies I wrote about in the column, he has 1450 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,990 passed some of the most significant domestic social 1451 01:22:30,990 --> 01:22:36,030 legislation in decades. foreign policy, one of the things that I 1452 01:22:36,030 --> 01:22:39,570 admire most about Biden is that he's gathered a team around him. 1453 01:22:39,810 --> 01:22:41,790 Adam Curry: This is important this because this is coming 1454 01:22:41,790 --> 01:22:44,730 straight from the Democratic insiders heat. Now listen 1455 01:22:44,730 --> 01:22:46,320 carefully, because I have another clip that goes with 1456 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,480 this. He is saying, but you'll hear what 1457 01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:51,510 Unknown: he say a very solid people call it people teach 1458 01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:54,780 ugly, he is the leader of that team. But the team members 1459 01:22:54,780 --> 01:23:00,330 themselves are strong. I have no doubt that this team of sensible 1460 01:23:00,420 --> 01:23:04,920 strategic people in the Democratic Party who are driving 1461 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,520 foreign policy forward and in a good way will continue to met no 1462 01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:12,000 matter who the temporary Democrats choose no matter who 1463 01:23:12,570 --> 01:23:16,620 on that score. I'm less concerned than you are. I think 1464 01:23:16,620 --> 01:23:19,920 it comes down to what we were talking about earlier. Is Joe 1465 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,150 Biden, the person who can stop Donald Trump or somebody like 1466 01:23:24,150 --> 01:23:27,030 Trump, who gets the Republican nomination. That's what he's 1467 01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:30,600 got. He's got a look in the mirror searches so and make that 1468 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,510 decision. And I wanted to raise that question. I'd like him to 1469 01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:36,750 think that through carefully, because I have my concerns. 1470 01:23:37,740 --> 01:23:40,950 Adam Curry: So that to me is an important thing that he said 1471 01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:45,780 there. The Democrats in America are looking for not for someone 1472 01:23:45,780 --> 01:23:49,170 to run the country because he's got a great team. He's got 1473 01:23:49,170 --> 01:23:53,610 Blinken. He's got Newland, he's got to celebrate 1474 01:23:53,790 --> 01:23:56,400 John C Dvorak: those two, you just named the two reasons that 1475 01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,310 that whole team should be ousted. Now, of course, 1476 01:23:59,340 --> 01:24:02,370 Adam Curry: but this these people are dumb, John, because 1477 01:24:02,370 --> 01:24:06,390 of diversity, equity inclusion are entitled An entire political 1478 01:24:06,390 --> 01:24:11,730 system has become dumb. We've hired dummies, so you're now 1479 01:24:11,730 --> 01:24:15,660 they're looking for someone who can beat Trump. They don't care. 1480 01:24:15,810 --> 01:24:24,720 As long as he can beat Trump, he or her. I think that Biden will 1481 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:29,370 bow out. I think we won't even get the big speech. Unless it's 1482 01:24:29,370 --> 01:24:32,460 possible. We get the big speech and he just goes nuts. And he 1483 01:24:32,460 --> 01:24:35,220 says something like, go nuts and he says great. He says something 1484 01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:38,550 like I'm corrupt. You know, that's why I pray for that every 1485 01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:39,420 day. I pray 1486 01:24:39,450 --> 01:24:41,370 John C Dvorak: Yeah. To get these ideas. 1487 01:24:43,050 --> 01:24:45,750 Adam Curry: You said and he's a he's a Catholic boy, he may just 1488 01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:48,450 all of a sudden say I gotta confess, I'm corrupt. I took all 1489 01:24:48,450 --> 01:24:54,180 the money. My son's a drug addict. I'm corrupt what? And so 1490 01:24:54,180 --> 01:24:57,780 Camela would have to step in. For it for the time being. 1491 01:24:57,930 --> 01:25:02,640 That'd be great. First Black woman to be President of the 1492 01:25:02,730 --> 01:25:07,260 United States. It follows the Veep script to the tee to the 1493 01:25:07,260 --> 01:25:15,030 tee. And Pelosi was on pooper talking about Kamala, and she 1494 01:25:15,030 --> 01:25:19,170 said some just horrible things about her. But I think makes 1495 01:25:19,170 --> 01:25:22,830 clear that she's gonna step in, she'll be fine to step in. 1496 01:25:23,190 --> 01:25:23,580 Listen to 1497 01:25:23,580 --> 01:25:25,530 Unknown: this was enough to date that fake news 1498 01:25:26,820 --> 01:25:28,500 is the best running mate for this President. 1499 01:25:29,099 --> 01:25:33,059 He thinks so. And that's what matters. And by the way, she's 1500 01:25:33,089 --> 01:25:36,269 very politically astute. I don't think people give her enough 1501 01:25:36,269 --> 01:25:39,809 credit. She's course values based consistent with the 1502 01:25:39,809 --> 01:25:43,799 President's values in the rest. And people don't understand 1503 01:25:43,799 --> 01:25:46,319 she's politically astute. Why would she be vice president if 1504 01:25:46,319 --> 01:25:50,579 she were not, but when she was running for attorney general in 1505 01:25:50,579 --> 01:25:57,329 California, she had 6% in the polls 6%. And she politically 1506 01:25:57,359 --> 01:26:01,529 astutely made her case about why she would be good, did her 1507 01:26:01,529 --> 01:26:03,989 politics and became Attorney General. 1508 01:26:04,259 --> 01:26:07,079 Adam Curry: Okay. So I just want to reiterate what she said. She 1509 01:26:07,079 --> 01:26:10,799 said, She's politically astute. She when she was running for 1510 01:26:10,799 --> 01:26:13,709 Attorney General for the state of California, she had 6% and 1511 01:26:13,709 --> 01:26:18,959 then she whispered 6%, but she did her politics. Can you tell 1512 01:26:18,959 --> 01:26:21,509 me what those politics were at the time in California that she 1513 01:26:21,749 --> 01:26:26,339 was here? Yes. What did she do to go from I have no idea didn't 1514 01:26:26,339 --> 01:26:27,899 she sleep with Willie Brown 1515 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,360 John C Dvorak: was she Disney would Willie Brown is very well 1516 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:35,550 known as kind of like a de facto facto facto. She slept with 1517 01:26:35,550 --> 01:26:39,090 Willie Brown or did something with Willie Brown. That put a 1518 01:26:39,090 --> 01:26:45,000 smile on his face, let's say. And she got she just got pushed 1519 01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,820 into the job. I don't remember her even campaigning. I don't 1520 01:26:47,820 --> 01:26:51,720 remember a speech from her. I remember she was the DA in San 1521 01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:56,610 Francisco and she did a crappy job there. She was condemned for 1522 01:26:56,610 --> 01:27:00,270 some of the stuff she did. She was nuts about just throwing 1523 01:27:00,270 --> 01:27:04,080 every marijuana user in jail. And she had let a lot of bad 1524 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:09,240 guys go. She was like an early warning of the of the chest see 1525 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,120 a boo Dan that they had to recall. Get him out of there. 1526 01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:19,470 And that guy in down in Los Angeles, bad, bad. DBAs and 1527 01:27:19,470 --> 01:27:21,570 yeah, and then she ended up with the job. And the next thing you 1528 01:27:21,570 --> 01:27:25,560 know, she bounces into this job. She's She's definitely 1529 01:27:26,429 --> 01:27:29,219 Adam Curry: she's, she's politically astute. She's very 1530 01:27:29,610 --> 01:27:31,470 John C Dvorak: astute. Yeah, that's the word astute. 1531 01:27:31,470 --> 01:27:35,190 Adam Curry: And as we'll hear in the rest of this clip, she just 1532 01:27:35,190 --> 01:27:37,740 has to she doesn't matter if she's dumb as a rock. She didn't 1533 01:27:37,740 --> 01:27:40,200 have to say anything, just be a standing. 1534 01:27:41,700 --> 01:27:45,690 Unknown: And she politically astutely made her case about why 1535 01:27:45,690 --> 01:27:49,230 she would be good, did her politics and became the attorney 1536 01:27:49,230 --> 01:27:53,580 general. So people shouldn't underestimate what Kamala Harris 1537 01:27:53,580 --> 01:27:58,050 brings to the table. Do you think she is the best running 1538 01:27:58,050 --> 01:28:00,900 mate? She's the Vice President of the United States. When 1539 01:28:00,900 --> 01:28:03,300 people say to me, Well, why isn't she doing this or that? I 1540 01:28:03,300 --> 01:28:05,940 said, because she's the Vice President. That's the job 1541 01:28:05,940 --> 01:28:06,720 description. 1542 01:28:07,470 --> 01:28:10,500 Adam Curry: This is jobs. Don't do anything. Just stand there 1543 01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:13,440 and be ready when the old guy croaks, or leaves or whatever. 1544 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:18,990 Unknown: You don't do that much. You know, you. You're a source 1545 01:28:18,990 --> 01:28:22,290 of strength, inspiration, intellectual resource, and the 1546 01:28:22,290 --> 01:28:26,340 rest and you and she I think she's represented a country very 1547 01:28:26,340 --> 01:28:27,840 well at home and abroad. 1548 01:28:27,930 --> 01:28:29,850 Adam Curry: So you don't have to do anything. That's the job. 1549 01:28:29,850 --> 01:28:34,590 That's the job. The job is be like Selena Gomez, be as stupid 1550 01:28:34,590 --> 01:28:38,010 as you want to be. Doesn't matter. The team around you will 1551 01:28:38,010 --> 01:28:42,330 take care of it. Joe's out. The question is who is good enough 1552 01:28:42,330 --> 01:28:44,850 to take on Donald Trump? I know only one. 1553 01:28:50,190 --> 01:28:51,300 John C Dvorak: But Gavin Newsom, 1554 01:28:51,330 --> 01:28:55,680 Adam Curry: Big Mike 2024, baby. Oh, please. Yep, it's common. I 1555 01:28:55,770 --> 01:29:00,450 can feel it in my water. Big Mike 2024. Big Mike 1556 01:29:00,450 --> 01:29:04,320 2020 four.com. Everybody if you want to. Want to sproutly 1557 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:09,960 Somebody's got to domain Yeah, we move we did believe me. Who 1558 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,920 else who else could take on Donald Trump? Yeah, Gavin 1559 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,140 Newsom, maybe Nancy Pelosi. 1560 01:29:17,070 --> 01:29:20,340 John C Dvorak: Get Gavin Newsom. He's got he's got a baggage of 1561 01:29:20,340 --> 01:29:23,100 the state itself, which is a problem. But even though he's 1562 01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:26,490 good bullshitter and he's been promoted, he's promoted by the 1563 01:29:26,490 --> 01:29:29,970 right in the form of you know, Sean Hannity, 1564 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,550 Adam Curry: let me tell you, it makes so much sense. It's all 1565 01:29:32,550 --> 01:29:36,180 coming together now. Just bear with me. So 1566 01:29:36,750 --> 01:29:38,640 John C Dvorak: Tom telling you who's going to who's going to 1567 01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,420 get it still unless I didn't steal I see a falter Kennedy. 1568 01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,730 Adam Curry: Let's get to that in a second. The way I would play 1569 01:29:47,730 --> 01:29:52,140 this is I would get Tucker on our team. The so to speak, and 1570 01:29:52,140 --> 01:29:56,670 I'd have him out Obama as gay with you know, either the real 1571 01:29:56,790 --> 01:29:59,820 Larry Sinclair or the fake leader Larry Sinclair doesn't 1572 01:29:59,820 --> 01:30:03,930 matter. After the story is out, and by the way, did you know the 1573 01:30:03,930 --> 01:30:08,400 Carlson's have quite a history of outing gay and transgender 1574 01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:08,880 people? 1575 01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:11,130 John C Dvorak: Tell me more. 1576 01:30:11,190 --> 01:30:15,660 Adam Curry: Did you know that it was Carlson's dad, Richard 1577 01:30:15,660 --> 01:30:22,860 Carlson, who outed the transsexual tennis player back 1578 01:30:22,860 --> 01:30:27,270 in the 70s. Remember, 1579 01:30:28,500 --> 01:30:31,290 John C Dvorak: but we can always remember the horse's name 1580 01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,610 Adam Curry: as transsexual tennis player, 1581 01:30:36,630 --> 01:30:38,820 John C Dvorak: that everyone knew that that was a transplant. 1582 01:30:39,060 --> 01:30:40,350 Renee Richards, Rene 1583 01:30:40,350 --> 01:30:41,010 Adam Curry: Richie. Yeah, Renee 1584 01:30:41,010 --> 01:30:42,780 John C Dvorak: Richards. Everyone knew that no, but 1585 01:30:42,780 --> 01:30:47,010 Adam Curry: it was here 19 From the wiki 1976 Richards gender 1586 01:30:47,010 --> 01:30:50,880 reassignment was outed by local TV anchor Richard Carlson, who 1587 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,900 also wore a bowtie, the father of Tucker Carlson, subsequently, 1588 01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:57,420 the United States Tennis Association, the Women's Tennis 1589 01:30:57,420 --> 01:31:00,300 Association, and the United States open committee required 1590 01:31:00,300 --> 01:31:04,980 all female competitors to verify their sex with a bar body test 1591 01:31:05,010 --> 01:31:09,180 of their chromosomes. So the Carlson's have a history of 1592 01:31:09,180 --> 01:31:11,010 doing this. They're the go to guys. 1593 01:31:11,430 --> 01:31:14,250 John C Dvorak: Well, that's one example. Give me more insofar as 1594 01:31:14,250 --> 01:31:15,120 a history. 1595 01:31:15,870 --> 01:31:17,910 Adam Curry: That's That's history, though. Who cares? 1596 01:31:18,150 --> 01:31:19,020 John C Dvorak: I'm just one. 1597 01:31:19,050 --> 01:31:23,070 Adam Curry: Yeah, just those two, two, there's one was Renee 1598 01:31:23,340 --> 01:31:29,460 and two is Obama. And we have all this the whole i Listen, the 1599 01:31:29,460 --> 01:31:33,600 Democrat Party has primed there is no longer black V was black 1600 01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,750 people before we have Black Lives Matter petered out. 1601 01:31:36,750 --> 01:31:40,410 Everyone's stole the money, and we don't have the black. If 1602 01:31:40,410 --> 01:31:43,230 you've if you don't vote Democrat, you ain't black. So 1603 01:31:43,230 --> 01:31:48,090 that's no longer in play. You're trans. Everyone's trans. That's 1604 01:31:48,090 --> 01:31:51,570 the thing 20% of quote school kids say I'm trans you might as 1605 01:31:51,570 --> 01:31:54,030 well say I'm a Democrat, you wearing a mask. You're a 1606 01:31:54,030 --> 01:31:58,800 Democrat. It's all it's all tied in to bringing in Obama's gay 1607 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:05,070 I'm sorry, you know, it's right. Ben showed Here's Mike. That is 1608 01:32:05,070 --> 01:32:09,060 an actual play I can see happening. It's that crazy in 1609 01:32:09,060 --> 01:32:09,720 the world amount 1610 01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,890 John C Dvorak: of time you spend on this thesis is ridiculous. I 1611 01:32:13,890 --> 01:32:17,250 Adam Curry: will just remind you, Donald Trump called it 1612 01:32:17,250 --> 01:32:25,320 early Pope nailed it. I have a history you can't refute my 1613 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:25,980 choices. 1614 01:32:28,050 --> 01:32:31,560 John C Dvorak: Plenty of refutation. This one is so off 1615 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,830 the wall. The problem is I get the sense even though I'm not 1616 01:32:34,830 --> 01:32:38,670 completely convinced, by the way that you're sincere. 1617 01:32:38,700 --> 01:32:42,930 Adam Curry: I'm totally sincere as an option. I personally would 1618 01:32:42,930 --> 01:32:49,740 enjoy Bobby The awful lot more. And it's just the it's all 1619 01:32:49,740 --> 01:32:55,140 rigged against him. There's no it's all it's all uphill battle 1620 01:32:55,140 --> 01:32:58,800 this and you know, the rigging the primary. How does he do it 1621 01:32:58,830 --> 01:33:00,150 is you can go third party. 1622 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:02,970 John C Dvorak: That's not gonna work. party's not going to work. 1623 01:33:03,060 --> 01:33:03,570 That's not going 1624 01:33:03,570 --> 01:33:06,660 Adam Curry: to work. No one that no one is bringing him as an as 1625 01:33:06,660 --> 01:33:10,440 an option. How? How do you get from here to there? I mean, I 1626 01:33:10,440 --> 01:33:15,480 just gave you a viable path for Michelle. Michelle Obama. Okay. 1627 01:33:15,570 --> 01:33:18,450 viable path. Where's your red book? 1628 01:33:19,500 --> 01:33:20,340 John C Dvorak: It's in there. 1629 01:33:20,700 --> 01:33:22,170 Adam Curry: It's a viable patio with 1630 01:33:22,170 --> 01:33:25,380 John C Dvorak: big blue arrows pointing at it. Wow. Now, 1631 01:33:25,410 --> 01:33:29,010 Adam Curry: okay, so there's one. All right. There's a 1632 01:33:29,010 --> 01:33:34,950 possibility. We saw a New York Times article come out with all 1633 01:33:34,950 --> 01:33:38,700 of a sudden, we have one of the Secret Service guys who's now in 1634 01:33:38,700 --> 01:33:45,270 his 80s who was there on the day of JFK assassination. And, and 1635 01:33:45,270 --> 01:33:47,790 he comes out and he says, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm the magic 1636 01:33:47,790 --> 01:33:52,260 bullet. I found the magic bullet discrediting the entire report. 1637 01:33:53,070 --> 01:33:54,450 What was it called the commission the Warren 1638 01:33:54,450 --> 01:33:58,770 Commission? This crediting it should no no, no, it was it was 1639 01:33:58,770 --> 01:34:03,720 stuck in between the seat of the car and I put it on the gurney 1640 01:34:04,410 --> 01:34:07,590 and then it must have jumped over off that gurney and then on 1641 01:34:07,590 --> 01:34:12,480 to Kennedy's gurney. Have you? Do you read this? He has a book 1642 01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:17,730 coming out of course written by who knows? Yeah. Do you think 1643 01:34:17,730 --> 01:34:22,050 that this would have something to do with with with Bobby? Like 1644 01:34:22,110 --> 01:34:26,730 no, Bobby The K? Oh, somehow I don't know. 1645 01:34:26,730 --> 01:34:28,890 John C Dvorak: You know, like something is kind of alluded at 1646 01:34:28,890 --> 01:34:32,580 the moment. I want to see it shake out a little bit more. The 1647 01:34:32,580 --> 01:34:33,630 Bobby The K move. 1648 01:34:34,020 --> 01:34:38,310 Adam Curry: You there's no move. That's the problem. There's no 1649 01:34:38,310 --> 01:34:40,290 moves. I see no X think 1650 01:34:40,290 --> 01:34:44,280 John C Dvorak: analysis is being performed as we speak. What to 1651 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:45,000 do next. 1652 01:34:46,020 --> 01:34:49,560 Adam Curry: Okay, I'm sorry. I think I have more in my Big Mike 1653 01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:50,550 theory than you have. 1654 01:34:51,390 --> 01:34:53,640 John C Dvorak: Yeah, and Gavin Newsom will end up being the guy 1655 01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:54,510 and he'll lose. 1656 01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,980 Adam Curry: Well, that's, that would probably be the best for 1657 01:34:58,980 --> 01:35:06,180 America. I do think that we have a possible VP who has thrown her 1658 01:35:06,180 --> 01:35:10,890 hat into the ring. And that's the Grisham lady from New 1659 01:35:10,890 --> 01:35:16,470 Mexico. This whole thing that she did with the banning of 1660 01:35:16,950 --> 01:35:21,240 concealed carry and open carry firearms in, in New Mexico. 1661 01:35:21,690 --> 01:35:25,530 Yeah. Now of a VP bid. 1662 01:35:25,860 --> 01:35:29,580 John C Dvorak: I had the I had Grisham picked as the VP in the 1663 01:35:29,580 --> 01:35:32,430 last election before they came up with Camela. I think it's a 1664 01:35:32,820 --> 01:35:36,840 it's a good pick. But the problem was Grisham now is that 1665 01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:42,510 she's, she was kind of a perky. I wouldn't say necessarily cute, 1666 01:35:42,510 --> 01:35:47,460 but she had a lot of pizzazz back four years ago or two 1667 01:35:47,460 --> 01:35:50,370 years, it was only two years ago. Now she looks like she's 1668 01:35:50,370 --> 01:35:54,390 been. It looks like they've been drugging her. So she looks bad. 1669 01:35:54,390 --> 01:35:55,230 She's perfect. 1670 01:35:55,260 --> 01:35:56,160 Adam Curry: She's perfect. She's 1671 01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:57,630 John C Dvorak: got a bad look. 1672 01:35:57,900 --> 01:36:00,780 Adam Curry: I got a couple of clips here. That I think shows 1673 01:36:00,780 --> 01:36:03,720 she is this whole move was nothing about the safety of the 1674 01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:04,860 people of New Mexico 1675 01:36:04,890 --> 01:36:07,500 Unknown: governor Michelle Lujan Grisham last week declared a 1676 01:36:07,500 --> 01:36:10,140 public health emergency and announced a 30 day ban on 1677 01:36:10,140 --> 01:36:13,710 carrying firearms open or concealed in public areas in 1678 01:36:13,710 --> 01:36:17,130 Albuquerque and its County. The Democratic governors move is 1679 01:36:17,130 --> 01:36:20,040 facing push pushback from law enforcement officials and gun 1680 01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:23,340 rights groups. Bring us now for her first national televised 1681 01:36:23,370 --> 01:36:25,890 interview since issuing this order is the governor of New 1682 01:36:25,890 --> 01:36:28,410 Mexico, Michelle Lujan Grisham. Governor, thank you for your 1683 01:36:28,410 --> 01:36:32,460 time this morning. And let's get to exactly that. We just heard 1684 01:36:32,460 --> 01:36:35,490 from the sheriff he joins the Attorney General and others who 1685 01:36:35,490 --> 01:36:38,940 say they won't enforce it, it's unconstitutional. Why do it if 1686 01:36:38,940 --> 01:36:40,230 it can't be enforced? 1687 01:36:40,890 --> 01:36:44,850 Well, that's their opinion. And they have no bold actions. They 1688 01:36:44,850 --> 01:36:48,630 don't have any plans for reducing gun violence, every 1689 01:36:48,630 --> 01:36:53,820 single aspect in terms of preventing gun violence funds, 1690 01:36:54,780 --> 01:37:00,690 crime labs, more than 150 million for retention, bonuses 1691 01:37:00,690 --> 01:37:03,990 and recruitment of new police officers. I'm focused on one 1692 01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:08,880 thing, we have the third highest gun related injuries in the 1693 01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:13,860 country 90%, higher than the national average, we lost 143 1694 01:37:13,860 --> 01:37:20,610 Children between 2017 and 2021. It is unacceptable. And it calls 1695 01:37:20,610 --> 01:37:25,770 for immediate and swift and bold action and evidence bears out 1696 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:29,460 over and over again, fewer guns on the streets makes everyone 1697 01:37:29,460 --> 01:37:32,340 safer. And I'm focused on everyone's constitutional 1698 01:37:32,340 --> 01:37:36,570 rights, not just those the NRA says I should be focused on 1699 01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:39,810 Yeah, it's not just the NRA. Here's one other concern from 1700 01:37:39,810 --> 01:37:42,030 the sheriff. Here's what he told my colleague, Kaitlin Collins 1701 01:37:42,030 --> 01:37:42,570 last night, 1702 01:37:43,290 --> 01:37:45,450 and a couple of months or a year down the road, were the ones 1703 01:37:45,450 --> 01:37:48,330 stuck in court. And we're the ones getting sued over all of 1704 01:37:48,330 --> 01:37:51,390 these infringement of rights and all these other court battles 1705 01:37:51,390 --> 01:37:53,580 when I could be focusing so much more on crime. 1706 01:37:54,150 --> 01:37:58,050 Adam Curry: When she says bold action, you know, gun crime, she 1707 01:37:58,050 --> 01:38:01,830 doesn't care about the people in Mexico, she cares about being 1708 01:38:01,830 --> 01:38:05,970 the VP whose job will be to take away America's guns. 1709 01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,540 Unknown: Has any law enforcement officer in Albuquerque or the 1710 01:38:09,540 --> 01:38:11,670 county actually enforced this yet? 1711 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:17,670 Well, we haven't issued any civil penalties. But that 1712 01:38:17,670 --> 01:38:20,310 doesn't mean that we're not and that we don't have the ability 1713 01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:25,050 to do that. But that right back I get from every single, I want 1714 01:38:25,050 --> 01:38:27,960 to know this minute. But that doesn't mean that we aren't in 1715 01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,810 it doesn't mean that we don't have additional police presence. 1716 01:38:30,990 --> 01:38:34,440 And if not this bold action, making sure that you're going to 1717 01:38:34,440 --> 01:38:37,290 the grocery store, you're safe going to a baseball game, you're 1718 01:38:37,290 --> 01:38:42,780 safe walking on a hiking trail, there are individuals, including 1719 01:38:42,780 --> 01:38:47,490 young people where it's illegal today to have a handgun openly 1720 01:38:47,490 --> 01:38:51,630 carrying handguns. My question to law enforcement is where are 1721 01:38:51,630 --> 01:38:57,930 you? Where are you in that young 11 year old Froylan Vegas 17 1722 01:38:57,930 --> 01:39:03,390 rounds were fired into that gun 35,000 rounds are fired at least 1723 01:39:03,570 --> 01:39:08,310 annually in Albuquerque alone, you are not safe going to work 1724 01:39:08,310 --> 01:39:12,000 getting your prescription drugs or going into a public park. And 1725 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:15,990 it wasn't just about a cooling off period. It's about making 1726 01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:21,150 sure that everyone is safer while we do boulder work. Oh, 1727 01:39:21,150 --> 01:39:25,800 both the drug epidemic and the gun violence epidemic. And it's 1728 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:29,340 not for police to tell me what's constitutional or not. They 1729 01:39:29,340 --> 01:39:34,680 haven't supported one, not one, gun violence effort in the state 1730 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:38,610 of New Mexico. Police domestic violence protections, universal 1731 01:39:38,610 --> 01:39:41,250 background checks. And I know you want to ask me a question. 1732 01:39:41,250 --> 01:39:45,810 So I'll take a breath. But no, you know, these are NRA talking 1733 01:39:45,810 --> 01:39:49,950 points about their rights and not about anybody else's. And 1734 01:39:49,950 --> 01:39:54,300 it's not a ban. It's a temporary pause. Okay, so that we can make 1735 01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:56,130 this community safer. She 1736 01:39:56,130 --> 01:39:59,970 Adam Curry: is so so vying for a VP maybe even President 1737 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:00,900 Certainly Aviva. 1738 01:40:00,930 --> 01:40:04,320 John C Dvorak: Maybe, maybe this is the place she that everyone 1739 01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,890 knows that Campbell was like a weak link and nobody likes her. 1740 01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:11,580 Yeah. And they gotta get rid of her if they're gonna run again, 1741 01:40:11,670 --> 01:40:15,570 and Biden's not going to give up the ghost and Brokk Well, 1742 01:40:15,570 --> 01:40:18,810 whatever you guys can know, Biden's gonna get jacked out, 1743 01:40:18,810 --> 01:40:21,120 you'll see it. It's going to be in the next few weeks. I can't 1744 01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:24,870 wait. You're gonna jack him up. Yes, with a shot. He's gonna 1745 01:40:24,870 --> 01:40:29,220 give a big rousing speech bitching about everything. And 1746 01:40:29,220 --> 01:40:35,700 it's about you know, Dana day. And so they're gonna move out. 1747 01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:38,070 Harris and we moved this girl in. 1748 01:40:38,940 --> 01:40:41,040 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. For the for the next run. Okay, so you 1749 01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:45,270 think Joe is still good to run for? For 2020 24 1750 01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:49,080 John C Dvorak: He's proven he can beat Trump. Okay. 1751 01:40:49,620 --> 01:40:52,620 Adam Curry: Even though the Democrat insiders are saying 1752 01:40:52,620 --> 01:40:55,440 he's too old, which is code for he's too wasted. 1753 01:40:56,070 --> 01:41:00,390 John C Dvorak: I think there's a schism in the party. And this 1754 01:41:00,390 --> 01:41:04,260 schism is being shown a said WaPo is right on there, right 1755 01:41:04,260 --> 01:41:07,890 there at the front of it. There are saying now, you know, you 1756 01:41:07,890 --> 01:41:12,060 get to David Ignatius being the front guy of all the column that 1757 01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:15,840 you could have used, you put him as the guy because I don't know 1758 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,140 why. But there's a reason for that choice. Maybe nobody else 1759 01:41:19,140 --> 01:41:24,360 wanted to do it to be the point man for this whole takedown. And 1760 01:41:24,510 --> 01:41:27,960 so they chose him and he's okay with it. He's not, not the 1761 01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:32,520 greatest in terms of being appointment. And, you know, 1762 01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:38,400 turning the whole party against Joe. You know, it's a salvo. So 1763 01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:41,220 just a shot across the bow. Let's see what happens. Yeah. 1764 01:41:41,490 --> 01:41:44,220 Okay. Well, Joe has not given up and his team has not given up 1765 01:41:44,220 --> 01:41:46,050 and so they're looking for somebody new in the UB are 1766 01:41:46,050 --> 01:41:49,350 probably identified her and this Michelle, who I thought should 1767 01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:50,850 have been the one in the first place. 1768 01:41:53,190 --> 01:41:59,610 Adam Curry: The way you sir, you're agreeing with me. Did you 1769 01:41:59,610 --> 01:42:00,480 just agree with me? 1770 01:42:01,500 --> 01:42:03,450 John C Dvorak: I said Biden's gonna run again. Is that 1771 01:42:03,450 --> 01:42:05,760 agreeing with you? No. You said it should have been Michelle. 1772 01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:08,700 First Mike's gonna run again. That's Michelle. The Big Mike is 1773 01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:12,090 Michelle. No, machette No. Michelle Grisham. 1774 01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,400 Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. I was like, whoa, what are you talking 1775 01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:19,500 about? All right. Now, the Bobby The Opera thing, Kennedy. I 1776 01:42:19,500 --> 01:42:23,100 think he may be an art. But he if anything, he's an opt to get 1777 01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:29,220 Trump elected, that he can take votes away. He can actually 1778 01:42:29,220 --> 01:42:30,720 degrade the Democrats and 1779 01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,750 John C Dvorak: you have to assume if that's true, do we 1780 01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:36,720 have to make the assumption that Trump has sold out and is now 1781 01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:40,920 okay to go? Is that what you're saying? 1782 01:42:41,070 --> 01:42:43,770 Adam Curry: When I'm here? I'll tell you my bottom line. I don't 1783 01:42:43,770 --> 01:42:48,000 think anyone controls it. But someone controls the voting and 1784 01:42:48,030 --> 01:42:51,720 whoever runs the show, determines who becomes 1785 01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,780 president. And they screwed up and somehow Trump eked through 1786 01:42:54,780 --> 01:42:57,840 and he got it. And they're never going to let that happen again. 1787 01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,860 No matter come hell or high water. That's what I think. I 1788 01:43:01,860 --> 01:43:04,020 don't think voting matters. I think your vote doesn't matter. 1789 01:43:04,020 --> 01:43:07,710 My vote doesn't matter. I think it's completely completely 1790 01:43:07,710 --> 01:43:14,730 bogus. I really do. It's it's hard to think of that, but I 1791 01:43:14,730 --> 01:43:19,230 think it just doesn't matter. It's rigged every every which 1792 01:43:19,230 --> 01:43:21,540 way and they just took their eye off the ball because they 1793 01:43:21,540 --> 01:43:25,290 thought oh, Hillary Trump can't do it. If somehow they forgot to 1794 01:43:25,290 --> 01:43:29,670 do some stuff somebody took no wasn't wasn't Pamela and dropped 1795 01:43:29,670 --> 01:43:32,550 the ball, I'm gonna drop the ball and then eat now never 1796 01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:37,590 happen again, ever. It's it's been determined, do whatever 1797 01:43:37,590 --> 01:43:40,920 they want. It's all been set, and has nothing to do with the 1798 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,860 people in Washington has nothing to do with the Department of 1799 01:43:43,860 --> 01:43:49,380 Justice, or the FBI or anything like that. It's rigged, it's 1800 01:43:49,380 --> 01:43:53,640 screwball. That's what I really think. 1801 01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:56,970 John C Dvorak: Well, that's what you really think is fine. And so 1802 01:43:56,970 --> 01:44:00,270 I don't see how anything you just said makes any sense with 1803 01:44:00,270 --> 01:44:01,920 bringing in Big Mike. 1804 01:44:03,330 --> 01:44:08,130 Adam Curry: Okay, we'll see. You will repent. 1805 01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:12,810 John C Dvorak: Mike is no Big Mike is out. 1806 01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:17,100 Adam Curry: Okay, let's talk about one other thing that I 1807 01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:20,760 need to get off my chest. Don't call it a comeback. That's back. 1808 01:44:21,990 --> 01:44:25,260 And just to confuse you even further into believing that this 1809 01:44:25,260 --> 01:44:33,960 summer cold is somehow COVID XB 3.225974. Let's bring out of a 1810 01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:34,890 whistleblower 1811 01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:37,920 Unknown: this morning. The CIA confirms it's looking into 1812 01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:41,580 accusations that several members of an agency team tasked with 1813 01:44:41,580 --> 01:44:45,990 COVID pandemic analysis were paid significant hush money to 1814 01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:49,650 shift their position regarding the origins of the virus. Two 1815 01:44:49,650 --> 01:44:52,860 Republican lawmakers have sent a letter to CIA director William 1816 01:44:52,860 --> 01:44:56,940 Burns, claiming that a senior level current agency officer 1817 01:44:57,060 --> 01:45:00,540 came forward alleging the payoff they say a According to the 1818 01:45:00,540 --> 01:45:04,290 whistleblower, seven officers were assigned to the CIA's COVID 1819 01:45:04,290 --> 01:45:08,100 discovery team, and six of the seven members of the team 1820 01:45:08,250 --> 01:45:11,910 believed the intelligence and science were sufficient to make 1821 01:45:11,940 --> 01:45:16,200 a low confidence assessment that COVID-19 originated from a 1822 01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:20,610 laboratory in Wuhan, China. The letter claims only one a person 1823 01:45:20,610 --> 01:45:23,970 on that team, who was most senior believe that COVID could 1824 01:45:23,970 --> 01:45:26,940 have been transmitted from animals to humans, but that to 1825 01:45:26,940 --> 01:45:30,210 come to the eventual public determination of uncertainty, 1826 01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:34,440 the other six members were given a significant monetary incentive 1827 01:45:34,620 --> 01:45:38,280 to change their position. The whistleblower did not explain 1828 01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:42,030 the payments or who might have made them. The CIA tells ABC 1829 01:45:42,030 --> 01:45:45,540 News we are committed to the highest standards of analytic 1830 01:45:45,540 --> 01:45:48,840 rigor, integrity and objectivity. We do not pay 1831 01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:52,110 analysts to reach specific conclusions. The origins of 1832 01:45:52,110 --> 01:45:55,170 COVID have been the subject of several congressional hearings. 1833 01:45:55,410 --> 01:45:59,400 Former CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield earlier this year, 1834 01:45:59,550 --> 01:46:03,510 testified he was excluded from discussions because he believed 1835 01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:06,240 the lab leak theory warranted investigation 1836 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:10,650 was told to me that they wanted a single narrative and that I 1837 01:46:10,650 --> 01:46:12,090 obviously had a different point of view. 1838 01:46:12,180 --> 01:46:16,470 Dr. Anthony Fauci called that accusation untrue. In June, the 1839 01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:19,410 Office of the Director of National Intelligence said the 1840 01:46:19,410 --> 01:46:24,180 CIA and another agency were unable to decide on where they 1841 01:46:24,180 --> 01:46:28,890 think COVID origins lie, as both hypotheses rely on significant 1842 01:46:28,890 --> 01:46:32,970 assumptions, or face challenges with conflicting reporting. This 1843 01:46:32,970 --> 01:46:35,850 new letter is asking for documents related to the COVID 1844 01:46:35,850 --> 01:46:38,940 discovery team's creation, communications about COVID 1845 01:46:38,970 --> 01:46:43,920 origins and records of any financial bonuses. The letter is 1846 01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:47,880 asking for that information to be turned over by September 26. 1847 01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:52,620 Adam Curry: So I the timing of this is is suspect. The minute 1848 01:46:52,620 --> 01:46:58,740 the FDA authorizes the new vaccination booster, you know, 1849 01:46:58,740 --> 01:47:02,340 there's even disagreement over what we're calling it. That 1850 01:47:02,340 --> 01:47:08,460 bring in Redfield I think this is all, all Vonk. A 1851 01:47:08,460 --> 01:47:11,640 whistleblower, particularly inside the government has 1852 01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:15,780 whistleblower protections, but you have to come forward. And 1853 01:47:15,780 --> 01:47:20,370 I'm reading from the United States House Committee on 1854 01:47:20,370 --> 01:47:24,780 Oversight Accountability press release. They say staff on the 1855 01:47:24,780 --> 01:47:27,540 Select subcommittee of the Coronavirus pandemic and 1856 01:47:27,540 --> 01:47:30,150 Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence have heard 1857 01:47:30,150 --> 01:47:33,840 testimony from a whistleblower alleging that the Central 1858 01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:37,530 Intelligence Agency offered six analysts significant monetary 1859 01:47:37,530 --> 01:47:41,640 incentives to change their position and COVID-19 origin the 1860 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:46,530 whistleblower who presents as a highly credible senior level CIA 1861 01:47:46,530 --> 01:47:51,330 officer, what does that mean? The whistleblower who presents 1862 01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:56,040 Is this person a highly credible senior level CIA officer or do 1863 01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:59,940 they just present that way? What does that mean? 1864 01:48:00,330 --> 01:48:02,370 John C Dvorak: It means that the whoever wrote the press release 1865 01:48:02,370 --> 01:48:03,840 was illiterate. 1866 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,360 Adam Curry: The whistleblower who presents as a highly 1867 01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:07,860 credible level surely 1868 01:48:07,860 --> 01:48:10,590 John C Dvorak: whistleblower was a high level guy. This whole 1869 01:48:10,590 --> 01:48:13,110 thing is is bullcrap. Correct? 1870 01:48:13,440 --> 01:48:16,140 Adam Curry: It's it's only to get you to believe that this is 1871 01:48:16,140 --> 01:48:21,120 all a real thing right now. Forget about the original. Right 1872 01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:24,420 now. No, this is just the flu is just a cold that literally 1873 01:48:24,420 --> 01:48:29,550 Coronavirus literally is a cold. But the timing is perfect. 1874 01:48:29,580 --> 01:48:32,310 believe it's real because we've got another shot for you. 1875 01:48:33,450 --> 01:48:36,300 Unknown: Tonight's FDA authorization is a major step 1876 01:48:36,300 --> 01:48:41,040 towards new booster shots after the CDC meets Tuesday vaccines 1877 01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:44,310 from Maderna. And Pfizer could go into arms by the end of the 1878 01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:44,820 week, 1879 01:48:44,970 --> 01:48:49,260 Adam Curry: drug arms arms talk about a pitch into arms or could 1880 01:48:49,260 --> 01:48:49,440 go 1881 01:48:49,440 --> 01:48:52,350 Unknown: into arms by the end of the week. drug makers say 1882 01:48:52,350 --> 01:48:55,680 boosters should increase protective antibodies against 1883 01:48:55,680 --> 01:49:01,290 the latest strains, including ba 286. The CDC says the mutation 1884 01:49:01,290 --> 01:49:04,680 shows the ability to in fact they're protected and even those 1885 01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,800 who've already had COVID. But it doesn't appear to be more 1886 01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:08,550 severe. 1887 01:49:08,580 --> 01:49:12,810 What this Booster will do is protect us against severe 1888 01:49:12,810 --> 01:49:17,640 disease, hospitalization. And the data so far indicate that 1889 01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:22,140 the booster is well matched to those strains, though national 1890 01:49:22,260 --> 01:49:25,050 Adam Curry: doesn't that sound Oh, that doesn't sound a lot 1891 01:49:25,050 --> 01:49:28,800 like the same script they used to use for the flu. Oh, we've 1892 01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,590 matched it. It's the right one. We figured it out. It's the 1893 01:49:31,590 --> 01:49:34,950 right one for this strain for this year strain of the flu for 1894 01:49:34,950 --> 01:49:38,910 this, for this year's strain of the pandemic of the COVID 1895 01:49:38,940 --> 01:49:42,690 Unknown: is well matched to those strains. Though national 1896 01:49:42,690 --> 01:49:45,840 COVID cases are no longer tracked. Some states are 1897 01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:49,560 reporting a rise though not a worrisome wave in new infection 1898 01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:53,370 Adam Curry: worrisome wave Oh man's hospitalizations are 1899 01:49:53,370 --> 01:49:58,350 Unknown: up nearly 16% Even though 97% of adults have some 1900 01:49:58,350 --> 01:50:00,270 level of protective immunity II 1901 01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:04,890 I was extremely exhausted and that congestion 1902 01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:08,700 congestion, college seniors just caught the virus that she 1903 01:50:08,700 --> 01:50:12,390 returned to school just like many adults have at work and at 1904 01:50:12,390 --> 01:50:13,620 large venues. 1905 01:50:13,650 --> 01:50:17,340 Last week, a lot of my classes were empty because a lot of kids 1906 01:50:17,340 --> 01:50:18,780 were reporting that they were sick 1907 01:50:18,810 --> 01:50:20,280 Adam Curry: reporting because they didn't want to go to 1908 01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:21,090 school. While the 1909 01:50:21,090 --> 01:50:24,180 Unknown: federal government will no longer pay for booster shots. 1910 01:50:24,180 --> 01:50:27,390 Most Americans will be covered by private insurance or 1911 01:50:27,390 --> 01:50:31,080 Medicare. local clinics are also expected to offer the roughly 1912 01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:36,660 $120 shot for free. While many new infections are mild. Tonight 1913 01:50:36,660 --> 01:50:41,160 there is concern a winter wave could be near if Americans don't 1914 01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:43,680 take precautions or get protection. 1915 01:50:43,710 --> 01:50:46,410 Adam Curry: We went from a worrisome wave to a winter wave 1916 01:50:46,410 --> 01:50:49,770 and we need to bring out as many people as we can onto the phony 1917 01:50:49,770 --> 01:50:53,880 baloney and five M networks to sell this to sell it to the 1918 01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:59,550 American people. Do you remember Dr. Jha? Remember that guy? jaw? 1919 01:51:00,060 --> 01:51:00,690 Yeah, remember 1920 01:51:00,690 --> 01:51:01,260 John C Dvorak: jaw? 1921 01:51:01,290 --> 01:51:04,170 Adam Curry: Well, they brought him on the Today Show job. Let's 1922 01:51:04,170 --> 01:51:06,090 sell it baby sell at home. Bring 1923 01:51:06,090 --> 01:51:08,430 Unknown: it Joining us now. Dr. Ashish Shah, the former White 1924 01:51:08,430 --> 01:51:10,740 House COVID Response Coordinator. Now once again, the 1925 01:51:10,740 --> 01:51:13,170 Dean of Brown University's School of Public Health. Dr. 1926 01:51:13,170 --> 01:51:16,620 Shah, you had your tour of duty in Washington. But here we are 1927 01:51:16,620 --> 01:51:20,190 talking about what some people are calling a COVID booster. But 1928 01:51:20,190 --> 01:51:22,830 this is a new shot. Tell us about this new one and what it 1929 01:51:22,830 --> 01:51:26,370 responds to which is it? Is it a particular variant? Is it for 1930 01:51:26,370 --> 01:51:28,980 the original COVID Why don't we need to get it? Yeah. 1931 01:51:29,010 --> 01:51:32,070 Okay, that sounds. So first of all, thrilled to be back. 1932 01:51:32,610 --> 01:51:34,200 Adam Curry: It's good to be back. You know, it's good to be 1933 01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:35,670 on the payroll. Look, 1934 01:51:35,730 --> 01:51:39,000 Unknown: every year we update our flu vaccine to match the flu 1935 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:40,260 strain that's circulating. 1936 01:51:40,350 --> 01:51:42,750 Adam Curry: And now we're just doubling down with two shots for 1937 01:51:42,750 --> 01:51:43,560 you every year. 1938 01:51:43,710 --> 01:51:45,600 Unknown: We're starting to do the same thing with COVID. Yes, 1939 01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,300 yes. So there are new strains of COVID that are circulating and 1940 01:51:48,300 --> 01:51:51,420 you need a new shot once a year. I don't call it a booster 1941 01:51:51,420 --> 01:51:54,270 because it's just your annual COVID shot at this point. And 1942 01:51:54,270 --> 01:51:57,600 most people should go out and get their annual COVID shot. The 1943 01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,360 way they get their annual flu shot and it's matched it matches 1944 01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:03,060 the strains that are circulating out there right now. 1945 01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:06,540 Adam Curry: It matches it's just like a flu shot it's crazy it's 1946 01:52:06,540 --> 01:52:10,050 just like a flu shot this is exactly what we used to do only 1947 01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:13,620 we want to make more money $120 per shot Don't worry your 1948 01:52:13,620 --> 01:52:16,050 insurance will pay for it doesn't cost anybody in the 1949 01:52:16,050 --> 01:52:18,570 world anything else and Medicare will pay for it. I don't know 1950 01:52:18,570 --> 01:52:20,400 where the magic money okay, so we 1951 01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,970 Unknown: should be getting that shot and shot. A lot of people 1952 01:52:23,970 --> 01:52:26,730 are about to get their flu shot. Is it a good idea to get both of 1953 01:52:26,730 --> 01:52:27,810 those shots together? 1954 01:52:27,870 --> 01:52:30,870 Adam Curry: Well for the let's look at the balance sheet. Yes, 1955 01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:32,310 it's a great idea together 1956 01:52:32,340 --> 01:52:35,670 Unknown: it is I got both of them last year together. Totally 1957 01:52:35,670 --> 01:52:36,600 safe to do that. 1958 01:52:36,630 --> 01:52:39,990 Adam Curry: Totally sue that guy that did that. Right what he 1959 01:52:39,990 --> 01:52:43,740 said right there I think it's sewable Hey, Dr. Shah said it's 1960 01:52:43,740 --> 01:52:44,820 totally safe. 1961 01:52:44,940 --> 01:52:47,250 Unknown: It works just as well to do that. It's obviously much 1962 01:52:47,250 --> 01:52:50,040 more convenient. You can get them in the same arm you get 1963 01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,350 them different arms it doesn't matter if you get them at the 1964 01:52:52,350 --> 01:52:52,560 same 1965 01:52:52,830 --> 01:52:56,880 good point we don't call it a booster shot. What are 1966 01:52:57,180 --> 01:53:00,510 Adam Curry: vaccines don't call it a booster it's a shot baby 1967 01:53:00,510 --> 01:53:03,240 it's new we don't say that about the flu. It has to be new and 1968 01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:05,310 fresh every single time Yeah, your annual flu 1969 01:53:05,310 --> 01:53:09,480 Unknown: shot you will kill the child get them together. It 1970 01:53:09,480 --> 01:53:13,710 makes the fall the winter the holidays just much safer. Much 1971 01:53:13,710 --> 01:53:15,540 better for everybody. It's much better 1972 01:53:15,540 --> 01:53:16,950 Adam Curry: for everybody because you don't want to kill 1973 01:53:16,950 --> 01:53:19,680 granny hospitalization numbers that we've seen pick up from the 1974 01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:22,680 prior week. To what do we attribute that? I heard an 1975 01:53:22,710 --> 01:53:25,350 uptick I heard a script uptick it's ticked up the 1976 01:53:25,350 --> 01:53:26,130 hospitalization 1977 01:53:26,130 --> 01:53:29,340 Unknown: numbers that we've seen tick up to what do we tribute 1978 01:53:29,340 --> 01:53:31,950 that it's just this like a return to It's just the numbers 1979 01:53:31,950 --> 01:53:34,950 to work after Labor Day is more to it than that? Yeah, look 1980 01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:38,310 COVID is gonna be with us right for ever just the way fluids 1981 01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:39,840 Adam Curry: are with Wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a 1982 01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:43,050 minute. When did we hear that COVID is going to be with us 1983 01:53:43,050 --> 01:53:45,690 forever just like the flu is with us. Have you ever had was 1984 01:53:45,690 --> 01:53:50,370 this a major scientific survey study or something? Did you hear 1985 01:53:50,370 --> 01:53:51,240 about any of this? 1986 01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:54,750 John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, this Yeah, no, no, this was presented 1987 01:53:54,780 --> 01:53:59,010 a couple of this was early on in the game they represent us okay, 1988 01:53:59,010 --> 01:54:03,330 it's largely because Coronavirus is the cold so always gonna be 1989 01:54:03,330 --> 01:54:04,110 with us. It's always 1990 01:54:04,110 --> 01:54:06,690 Unknown: gonna be with us. COVID is gonna be with us. Right for 1991 01:54:06,780 --> 01:54:07,980 ever just the way through is 1992 01:54:08,940 --> 01:54:13,380 Adam Curry: forever. He totally, forever, forever. 1993 01:54:14,850 --> 01:54:17,880 Unknown: Yeah, look, COVID is gonna be with us, right for ever 1994 01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:23,220 just the way floats. With COVID we probably going to see a 1995 01:54:23,220 --> 01:54:26,580 couple of these little waves a year where it's gonna go up, 1996 01:54:26,580 --> 01:54:28,920 it's gonna go down. Oh, they usually happen during the 1997 01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:31,950 winter. We get one usually during this summer. This is just 1998 01:54:31,950 --> 01:54:34,620 sort of that late summer COVID way we've seen it each of the 1999 01:54:34,620 --> 01:54:38,160 last couple of summers. We're seeing it again. I'm hoping it's 2000 01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:40,560 going to turn around and it's going to peak and start coming 2001 01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:44,760 back down. This is a reality and we can manage our way through it 2002 01:54:45,540 --> 01:54:46,410 up on the vaccines 2003 01:54:46,470 --> 01:54:47,730 Adam Curry: just you can manage to 2004 01:54:48,060 --> 01:54:50,610 John C Dvorak: do they do the right thing here and suggest 2005 01:54:50,610 --> 01:54:51,900 that twice a year shot. 2006 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,290 Adam Curry: Even better. Even better than that. They don't 2007 01:54:55,290 --> 01:55:00,990 even hide it anymore. They say look, look five Desert moderna. 2008 01:55:00,990 --> 01:55:03,690 They're sponsoring this segment. They're paying for everything on 2009 01:55:03,690 --> 01:55:07,140 television right now. Could you just get to the could you close 2010 01:55:07,140 --> 01:55:10,080 it? Can you pitch this thing and close it for me? 2011 01:55:10,110 --> 01:55:12,600 Unknown: Dr. John make your big pitch here. Okay? I mean because 2012 01:55:12,630 --> 01:55:14,760 a lot of folks, if you're immunocompromised if you're 2013 01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:16,230 elderly you know you want us 2014 01:55:17,789 --> 01:55:20,009 Adam Curry: I knew I get you with that one. Make Your Pitch. 2015 01:55:20,039 --> 01:55:23,129 Come on, man. We got 40 seconds left, Make Your Pitch doctors 2016 01:55:23,129 --> 01:55:23,549 job 2017 01:55:23,580 --> 01:55:26,010 Unknown: to make your big pitch here. Okay? I mean, because a 2018 01:55:26,010 --> 01:55:28,080 lot of folks okay if you're immunocompromised if you're 2019 01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,690 elderly, you know, you want to stay on top of your COVID shots. 2020 01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,660 Other folks who are like I'm reasonably healthy, I'm young, 2021 01:55:33,660 --> 01:55:37,050 do I really need to do it? Or you know, I've had COVID three 2022 01:55:37,050 --> 01:55:40,020 times and I had all the shots. Yeah. What's your pitch? 2023 01:55:40,709 --> 01:55:43,109 Adam Curry: What point at what point is that Savannah? 2024 01:55:44,610 --> 01:55:47,640 John C Dvorak: I know. I'm not sure that Savannah but whoever 2025 01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:50,940 it is, because it because she's not. I can't tell right there. 2026 01:55:51,060 --> 01:55:55,230 But the idea that you'd say I've been vaccinated double Vax, have 2027 01:55:55,230 --> 01:55:57,690 been boosted and boosted have had COVID Three times why do we 2028 01:55:57,690 --> 01:56:01,170 need another shot? It's just like, does anyone notice how 2029 01:56:01,170 --> 01:56:02,670 ludicrous This is? 2030 01:56:02,700 --> 01:56:05,220 Adam Curry: Thank you for pointing that out. It's this is 2031 01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:11,580 an we, I was I was dinner last night and you have people 2032 01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:15,180 talking about their family members who are doctors who are 2033 01:56:15,180 --> 01:56:19,110 doctors. And you can literally say to them, Do you remember 2034 01:56:19,110 --> 01:56:22,560 when it was safe and effective? And 95%? Yes. Do you remember it 2035 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,880 went to 85 and 75? And then you needed to and they needed a 2036 01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:29,610 booster and they needed another booster and was safe and 2037 01:56:29,610 --> 01:56:32,460 effective? And then if you wouldn't go into the hospital 2038 01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:36,810 and and you know you would be no severe illness and and you know 2039 01:56:36,810 --> 01:56:40,350 there's no myocarditis is crazy. And any of that you remember all 2040 01:56:40,350 --> 01:56:42,870 of that? Yeah. Well, then why do you think that this is any 2041 01:56:42,870 --> 01:56:48,810 different? Well, I haven't you know, I'm not dead. That's a 2042 01:56:48,810 --> 01:56:51,690 Hama Hama that's only unvaccinated people. You know? 2043 01:56:51,690 --> 01:56:55,860 It's, it's isn't that what's it called? Cognitive dissonance. 2044 01:56:55,890 --> 01:57:00,000 Isn't that the exact perfect textbook example of cognitive 2045 01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:03,840 dissonance? Like see that isn't? It's yeah, dissonance. Am I 2046 01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:07,710 saying it wrong? That's I said, dissident, no dissonance. 2047 01:57:08,460 --> 01:57:11,190 John C Dvorak: He has a funnier tear. If you think about let's 2048 01:57:11,190 --> 01:57:11,760 finish his 2049 01:57:11,790 --> 01:57:12,870 Adam Curry: pitch his big pitch. 2050 01:57:12,900 --> 01:57:14,250 Unknown: Yep. What's your pitch? Yeah, 2051 01:57:14,250 --> 01:57:17,100 so a couple of things. First of all, if you get COVID After 2052 01:57:17,100 --> 01:57:19,440 getting vaccinated, it's gonna be much milder, you're less 2053 01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:22,500 likely to miss work, you're gonna miss Screw it. Second, 2054 01:57:22,500 --> 01:57:24,540 you're less likely to spread it to others. So maybe you're not 2055 01:57:24,540 --> 01:57:27,870 high risk. Maybe grandma is if you've gotten the COVID shot, 2056 01:57:27,870 --> 01:57:30,630 you're less likely to spread it to her that makes a really big 2057 01:57:30,630 --> 01:57:33,090 grandma. And then you know, some people go on to develop long 2058 01:57:33,090 --> 01:57:35,730 COVID where they can have long term complications. That gets 2059 01:57:35,730 --> 01:57:38,640 reduced a lot by getting vaccinated to free widely 2060 01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:41,700 available to me it's a no brainer free, 2061 01:57:41,700 --> 01:57:43,770 Adam Curry: free free. Why? 2062 01:57:44,550 --> 01:57:47,070 John C Dvorak: I like the idea of charging of all things 2063 01:57:47,070 --> 01:57:50,130 because the shot is we already know the cost of the shots 19 2064 01:57:50,130 --> 01:57:53,790 bucks Max 120 bucks for the 20 120 2065 01:57:53,820 --> 01:57:57,060 Adam Curry: Well was 20 bucks that was a murderer and 120 It's 2066 01:57:57,060 --> 01:57:58,260 120 so 2067 01:57:58,260 --> 01:58:01,020 John C Dvorak: I'm just really gonna get to the point. So they 2068 01:58:01,020 --> 01:58:05,310 got it, we know what it cost is 1920 attended nine to $20 worth 2069 01:58:05,340 --> 01:58:09,030 the cost to make make the thing and so they spill a sell for 2070 01:58:09,210 --> 01:58:14,280 3040 bucks, but by jacking the price way up to 120 and then 2071 01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:19,140 saying it's free. It's a marketing trick. Yeah, yes. 2072 01:58:19,650 --> 01:58:21,150 Adam Curry: Thank you. Yes. So 2073 01:58:21,150 --> 01:58:23,940 John C Dvorak: why don't they just say well, this this is 2074 01:58:23,940 --> 01:58:26,880 what's coming this has got to be coming because I would do this 2075 01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:31,680 if I was the marketing guy at Pfizer. Yeah, it goes like this 2076 01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:36,540 well this new this be next year, the new you get the new variant 2077 01:58:36,540 --> 01:58:40,650 this was a tough one. This cost the district r&d that went into 2078 01:58:40,650 --> 01:58:44,850 getting this just this one done. This shot is going to be 300 2079 01:58:44,850 --> 01:58:49,830 bucks 300 bucks is good that's what it's going to cost but free 2080 01:58:49,860 --> 01:58:55,560 if who you know it's about 300 bucks so you jack the unity of 2081 01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:59,490 phony baloney up to some Vitsin price in the sky charged the 2082 01:58:59,490 --> 01:59:02,790 government for that because you know, they the you still have to 2083 01:59:02,790 --> 01:59:08,610 pay somebody has to pay the 300 bucks. When when when when maybe 2084 01:59:08,610 --> 01:59:08,820 just 2085 01:59:08,820 --> 01:59:11,010 Adam Curry: the very end there what he said was kind of cool. 2086 01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:13,740 Unknown: That gets reduced a lot by getting vaccinated to free 2087 01:59:13,770 --> 01:59:16,020 widely available. To me, it's a no brainer, 2088 01:59:16,050 --> 01:59:18,150 Adam Curry: it's a no brainer. That's the payoff. It's a no 2089 01:59:18,150 --> 01:59:21,090 brainer. What's wrong with you, you don't need a brain. In fact, 2090 01:59:21,090 --> 01:59:23,520 if you have no brain, it's better that you get this shot. 2091 01:59:24,030 --> 01:59:28,110 But but let's talk to let's go over to NBC stay with NBC not 2092 01:59:28,110 --> 01:59:30,540 the today's show. How about side effects, you know, any issues? 2093 01:59:30,540 --> 01:59:30,630 And 2094 01:59:30,630 --> 01:59:32,520 Unknown: what about any side effects with this one? Yeah, 2095 01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:35,790 they're supposed to mirror previous versions of the the 2096 01:59:35,790 --> 01:59:36,600 COVID shot. 2097 01:59:36,870 --> 01:59:39,870 You might have a sore arm fatigue, nausea, headache, 2098 01:59:39,900 --> 01:59:41,340 even fever. In some cases, 2099 01:59:41,370 --> 01:59:43,530 some people have learned by now whether there's someone who 2100 01:59:43,530 --> 01:59:46,950 should take the day off the next day because more of a reaction 2101 01:59:46,950 --> 01:59:50,460 to the shot. It seems to be different for everyone, right? I 2102 01:59:50,460 --> 01:59:53,100 remember I was a little sick, but not too bad after you know. 2103 01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:54,120 All right, Erica, thank 2104 01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:54,990 you so much. Appreciate it. 2105 01:59:55,710 --> 01:59:58,530 Adam Curry: Thank you. Why don't we ask Dr. Fauci about side 2106 01:59:58,530 --> 02:00:00,900 effects. Let's just ask him on ABC This Week. 2107 02:00:00,930 --> 02:00:03,090 Unknown: So what's your sense, obviously those that are in high 2108 02:00:03,090 --> 02:00:06,810 risk categories, but who, who should be taking that booster? 2109 02:00:07,770 --> 02:00:10,890 You know, I don't I don't want to get ahead of the ACI P in 2110 02:00:10,890 --> 02:00:14,340 their recommendation, my own personal feeling is that I 2111 02:00:14,340 --> 02:00:18,060 believe certainly those who are vulnerable, the elderly, and 2112 02:00:18,060 --> 02:00:20,730 those with underlying conditions will vary. But I believe we 2113 02:00:20,730 --> 02:00:24,300 should give the choice to people who are not in the high risk 2114 02:00:24,300 --> 02:00:28,200 groups to have the vaccine available for them. Because, 2115 02:00:28,500 --> 02:00:32,970 again, we have experience with this type of vaccine in billions 2116 02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:37,140 of people. It's a safe vaccine, of course, with the mRNA there's 2117 02:00:37,140 --> 02:00:41,400 a very, very, very low risk it particularly in young men of 2118 02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:42,960 getting a myocarditis. 2119 02:00:43,020 --> 02:00:47,010 Adam Curry: Oh, wait, I don't remember that in the beginning. 2120 02:00:47,070 --> 02:00:51,480 And but that's a very, very, very, very, very, very low risk, 2121 02:00:51,630 --> 02:00:54,480 particularly in young men, but it's very, very, very, very, 2122 02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:55,230 very low risk. 2123 02:00:55,710 --> 02:00:58,890 Unknown: It's a safe vaccine. Of course, with the mRNA. There's a 2124 02:00:58,890 --> 02:01:02,430 very, very, very low risk very, very, very, very, it 2125 02:01:02,430 --> 02:01:06,510 particularly in young men of getting a myocarditis, but if 2126 02:01:06,510 --> 02:01:11,100 you look at the risk of myocarditis from COVID, itself 2127 02:01:11,130 --> 02:01:15,300 is greater than the risk of the vaccine. Okay, and so from my 2128 02:01:15,300 --> 02:01:19,680 own personal standpoint, yeah, I don't make it available for 2129 02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:22,800 everyone, but certainly recommended for the high risk 2130 02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:23,250 people, 2131 02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:26,880 Adam Curry: ya know, you get, you get myocarditis from COVID, 2132 02:01:27,300 --> 02:01:34,050 not from the vaccine from COVID. From COVID. This guy is a liar. 2133 02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:36,270 And now I thought 2134 02:01:36,270 --> 02:01:38,790 John C Dvorak: he was retired. My understanding was, and I've 2135 02:01:38,790 --> 02:01:42,450 said it before, yes, he is a few months back, he quit the job 2136 02:01:42,450 --> 02:01:47,130 he's done. He's not why is he still on TV constantly? Because 2137 02:01:47,130 --> 02:01:47,190 he 2138 02:01:47,190 --> 02:01:50,190 Adam Curry: gets paid to do that. He's he is a full fledged 2139 02:01:50,220 --> 02:01:54,750 employee of the pharmaceutical industry. He gets he actually 2140 02:01:54,780 --> 02:01:57,600 still gets royalties just because you no longer with NIH 2141 02:01:57,600 --> 02:01:59,610 doesn't mean you don't get the royalties that goes on in 2142 02:01:59,610 --> 02:02:01,110 perpetuity. He still 2143 02:02:01,410 --> 02:02:03,480 John C Dvorak: doesn't mean he has to be on TV once you just go 2144 02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:06,030 home and collect royalties, cash checks, 2145 02:02:06,059 --> 02:02:08,669 Adam Curry: are you seriously asking me why he's on TV? The 2146 02:02:08,669 --> 02:02:12,839 man sells? Come on. He's America's he's, he's the COVID 2147 02:02:13,049 --> 02:02:17,849 patron saint. We trust him. The mask though the Cochrane study. 2148 02:02:17,849 --> 02:02:20,459 That's a bit of a problem. And we're almost out of time. But I 2149 02:02:20,459 --> 02:02:21,149 want to ask you a 2150 02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:25,080 Unknown: new study out that suggested masks we're actually 2151 02:02:25,080 --> 02:02:28,710 not effective, at least in a global sense. And 2152 02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:31,050 Adam Curry: remember that, oh, it's local level. They're 2153 02:02:31,050 --> 02:02:33,090 effective, but not on a global level and 2154 02:02:33,090 --> 02:02:36,270 Unknown: containing the pandemic? What what is your 2155 02:02:36,270 --> 02:02:40,590 sense looking back at all this? Did masks proved to be less 2156 02:02:40,590 --> 02:02:46,980 effective than you anticipated? Oh, you know, John, is some of 2157 02:02:46,980 --> 02:02:50,430 the studies that confusing the study that recently has been now 2158 02:02:50,430 --> 02:02:53,730 quoted a lot and causing a lot of confusion, confusion is this 2159 02:02:53,730 --> 02:02:57,210 Cochrane study, which even the people who run the Cochrane 2160 02:02:57,210 --> 02:03:01,470 studies say that that study can be misleading, because Pingree 2161 02:03:01,470 --> 02:03:05,460 commented on that study saying absolutely masks don't work. 2162 02:03:05,670 --> 02:03:08,700 Which is absolutely not the case. Because there are a number 2163 02:03:08,700 --> 02:03:12,900 of studies that actually do work. And there's a lot of 2164 02:03:12,900 --> 02:03:17,520 confusion. When you take a broad, a series of studies and 2165 02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:21,150 you look at them in a meta analysis, only a couple of those 2166 02:03:21,150 --> 02:03:25,230 studies, were specifically looking at COVID. So I think we 2167 02:03:25,230 --> 02:03:28,590 better be careful that that study that people keep talking 2168 02:03:28,590 --> 02:03:30,930 about can be very, very misleading. There's a lot of 2169 02:03:30,930 --> 02:03:32,970 good data, that masks work 2170 02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:35,100 Adam Curry: well. Okay. So that's just that's just 2171 02:03:35,100 --> 02:03:38,190 wastewater of the mouth because you said nothing. Wouldn't it be 2172 02:03:38,190 --> 02:03:42,570 nice if we could hear from the man who actually ran that study 2173 02:03:42,570 --> 02:03:46,800 who's behind the study? Dr. Jefferson, because there's no 2174 02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:51,180 confusion in his mind about the Cochrane study. And I'll give it 2175 02:03:51,180 --> 02:03:55,770 to Smerconish from CNN for bringing this guy on and saying, 2176 02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:58,830 what's the deal with your study? Why is it so controversial, 2177 02:03:58,830 --> 02:04:02,790 which I don't think it is. But according to Dr. Fauci is, ya 2178 02:04:02,790 --> 02:04:06,060 know, can be misinterpreted is very confused. Even the people 2179 02:04:06,060 --> 02:04:08,760 that ran the study say it's confusing. The 2180 02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:11,250 Unknown: Cochrane reports physical interventions to 2181 02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:14,550 interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses was 2182 02:04:14,550 --> 02:04:18,360 published earlier this year. An aggregate analysis of scientific 2183 02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:22,380 studies on the efficacy of masks Dr. Lena Wen in The Washington 2184 02:04:22,380 --> 02:04:25,860 Post is called Cochrane, a highly reputable source. Its 2185 02:04:25,890 --> 02:04:28,950 systemic reviews are considered the gold standard of medical 2186 02:04:28,980 --> 02:04:32,760 analysis. So I thought I would go to the source, the first 2187 02:04:32,790 --> 02:04:36,000 author of The Cochrane study and hear his side of the 2188 02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:39,030 controversy. Dr. Tom Jefferson joins me now he's an 2189 02:04:39,030 --> 02:04:42,180 epidemiologist and senior associate tutor at the 2190 02:04:42,180 --> 02:04:47,400 University of Oxford. Do masks work, in your opinion in 2191 02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:49,290 stopping the spread of COVID. 2192 02:04:49,950 --> 02:04:56,580 We've got three SARS cov, two, three trials of SARS cov two and 2193 02:04:56,580 --> 02:05:01,680 now I'm showing the effect it is is impossible to show that 2194 02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:07,050 something doesn't work in this case. And we science adopts a 2195 02:05:07,110 --> 02:05:11,370 probabilistic approach. So it's a chance approach. Is it more 2196 02:05:11,370 --> 02:05:14,280 likely than not? At the moment? There is no evidence that that 2197 02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:21,270 is the case. Which Mark mask against which oxygen, there's 2198 02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:25,020 hundreds of pathogens. So that's a situation. 2199 02:05:25,290 --> 02:05:27,450 Adam Curry: I have to say this worries me when you bring in the 2200 02:05:27,450 --> 02:05:32,340 divorce check. There's no evidence, like, I don't know, I 2201 02:05:32,370 --> 02:05:35,400 don't know how to interpret that. But we can ask even more 2202 02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:38,700 clearly, can you say with certainty that masks don't work? 2203 02:05:38,730 --> 02:05:42,300 Unknown: So I'm hoping to bring clarity to viewers because it's 2204 02:05:42,300 --> 02:05:45,630 very hard to follow as lay people. It sounds to me, Dr. 2205 02:05:45,630 --> 02:05:49,890 Jefferson, as you are saying, We don't know. And by the way, when 2206 02:05:49,890 --> 02:05:52,890 I when I look at the author's conclusion, and I'll put this on 2207 02:05:52,890 --> 02:05:55,890 the screen, the authors, the author's can conclusion from the 2208 02:05:55,890 --> 02:06:01,380 most recent of these flat out says there is uncertainty about 2209 02:06:01,380 --> 02:06:04,890 the effects of face masks. I don't want people to think that 2210 02:06:04,890 --> 02:06:08,250 you're here saying they don't work. It sounds to me like 2211 02:06:08,250 --> 02:06:11,370 you're here saying, I can't tell you if they do, or they don't 2212 02:06:11,370 --> 02:06:13,380 work. But please speak for yourself. 2213 02:06:14,340 --> 02:06:18,150 You're correct. I can't tell you whether they work or don't work. 2214 02:06:18,180 --> 02:06:22,830 But it's more likely than not that they they don't work. Okay, 2215 02:06:23,310 --> 02:06:27,960 based on but this is not just against SARS, cov to COVID, the 2216 02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:33,150 COVID pathogens, we're looking at interventions over a 78 2217 02:06:33,150 --> 02:06:38,370 trials over 50 years, a whole review is over half a million 2218 02:06:38,460 --> 02:06:43,380 participants in these trials. Now, the underlying problem that 2219 02:06:43,380 --> 02:06:46,500 you've got there is that people are drunk with certainty. 2220 02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:51,750 They're told that something works into the story. That's not 2221 02:06:51,750 --> 02:06:57,540 science. what science is about is is likely or unlikely to work 2222 02:06:57,570 --> 02:07:00,150 or we can't find any evidence of it. 2223 02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:04,710 Adam Curry: Okay, so what is it if it's not science, it's 2224 02:07:04,710 --> 02:07:07,680 politics, the hospitalization numbers that we've seen, sorry. 2225 02:07:08,070 --> 02:07:09,870 That was, was 2226 02:07:09,900 --> 02:07:12,060 John C Dvorak: well, you know, talking about politics are you 2227 02:07:12,060 --> 02:07:15,600 bringing in COVID in politics? Are you familiar with what's 2228 02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:18,450 going on in New York with quarantine camps? 2229 02:07:19,230 --> 02:07:21,300 Adam Curry: No goodness, do you have a clip of this? Tell me you 2230 02:07:21,300 --> 02:07:26,040 have a clip. I have to thank you. Masks don't work by the 2231 02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:29,700 way. Quarantine camps 2232 02:07:29,730 --> 02:07:32,310 Unknown: New York State is still fighting for the right to set up 2233 02:07:32,310 --> 02:07:35,550 quarantine camps. Today. The battle entered the next phase 2234 02:07:35,550 --> 02:07:37,980 when the court heard oral arguments in that case, 2235 02:07:38,100 --> 02:07:41,970 quarantine camps in the state of New York Governor Kathy Hoko and 2236 02:07:41,970 --> 02:07:46,380 Attorney General Letitia James want to implement rule 2.13. It 2237 02:07:46,380 --> 02:07:49,500 will give the state's Department of Health the power to forcibly 2238 02:07:49,500 --> 02:07:52,800 isolate individuals suspected of carrying a transmittable 2239 02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:53,310 disease. 2240 02:07:53,880 --> 02:07:56,940 This is truly about being able to control citizens for any 2241 02:07:56,940 --> 02:07:57,330 reason. 2242 02:07:57,600 --> 02:08:00,780 New York State Senator George perello and lead attorney Bobby 2243 02:08:00,780 --> 02:08:04,470 and Cox sued the state over the rule and won the case last year. 2244 02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:08,520 However, the state appealed and on Wednesday, attorneys made 2245 02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:10,470 their case before an appeals court. 2246 02:08:10,860 --> 02:08:14,400 The rule says the commissioner of health can pick any place 2247 02:08:14,460 --> 02:08:17,550 that the Commissioner of Health wants to put you. You have no 2248 02:08:17,550 --> 02:08:18,090 say. 2249 02:08:18,510 --> 02:08:21,510 As you can see, in this clip, hundreds of people showed up at 2250 02:08:21,510 --> 02:08:25,470 the court protesting the idea of quarantine camps set up to stop 2251 02:08:25,470 --> 02:08:28,890 the spread of communicable diseases. Senator, the COVID 2252 02:08:28,890 --> 02:08:32,010 pandemic is over. Why does the state of New York still want to 2253 02:08:32,010 --> 02:08:33,840 have the right to set up these camps? 2254 02:08:34,500 --> 02:08:36,780 Well, first and foremost, we have to remember even though the 2255 02:08:36,810 --> 02:08:39,240 governor and the Attorney General tried to make this about 2256 02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:39,750 COVID 2257 02:08:40,140 --> 02:08:43,590 The senator says the state's rule would apply to a long list 2258 02:08:43,590 --> 02:08:45,450 of diseases not just COVID. 2259 02:08:45,540 --> 02:08:49,440 It goes everything from toxic shock syndrome to food 2260 02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:52,470 poisoning. And while food poisoning might be a serious 2261 02:08:52,980 --> 02:08:54,780 condition, it is not communicable. 2262 02:08:55,020 --> 02:08:59,670 Adam Curry: Wait is toxic shock syndrome communicable. No, 2263 02:08:59,700 --> 02:09:02,580 that's that this Who is this guy. 2264 02:09:03,540 --> 02:09:06,780 John C Dvorak: He's telling you what this. What this would Coco 2265 02:09:06,780 --> 02:09:11,580 wants to do is take people off the streets, grab them and throw 2266 02:09:11,580 --> 02:09:14,700 them into a quarantine camp for good reason. 2267 02:09:14,730 --> 02:09:16,710 Adam Curry: That's right, New York. goober Allah's, 2268 02:09:16,740 --> 02:09:19,440 Unknown: the senator says New York's executive branch is 2269 02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:22,680 overreaching by trying to implement this rule. According 2270 02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:26,100 to him, the state's proposed rule is basically a copy of a 2271 02:09:26,100 --> 02:09:29,130 previous proposal, which didn't get any support from state 2272 02:09:29,130 --> 02:09:31,470 lawmakers and thus didn't become law. 2273 02:09:31,740 --> 02:09:34,710 But what the event essentially says if the legislature isn't 2274 02:09:34,710 --> 02:09:38,160 going to make this law, we will. So it's a very clear violation 2275 02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:39,900 of separation of powers. The lead 2276 02:09:39,900 --> 02:09:42,750 attorney in the case points out a few things in the state's 2277 02:09:42,750 --> 02:09:45,180 rule, which he says are against the law. 2278 02:09:45,420 --> 02:09:48,330 According to the rule, you would not get an attorney until after 2279 02:09:48,330 --> 02:09:53,130 you're locked up. But you also wouldn't get notice, which means 2280 02:09:53,130 --> 02:09:55,860 that the Department of Health could show up at your door or 2281 02:09:55,860 --> 02:09:58,590 they could send the police with an order that you need to 2282 02:09:58,590 --> 02:10:01,890 isolate or quarantine. And it could be not just for you it 2283 02:10:01,890 --> 02:10:03,030 could be for your child. 2284 02:10:03,510 --> 02:10:07,290 Meanwhile, the state argues that its proposed rule only clarifies 2285 02:10:07,290 --> 02:10:10,830 existing law. Supporters of the rules say quarantine measures 2286 02:10:10,860 --> 02:10:14,190 are being used in states around the US and have been used for 2287 02:10:14,190 --> 02:10:15,000 centuries. 2288 02:10:15,750 --> 02:10:17,790 Adam Curry: Wow, I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you a clip of 2289 02:10:17,790 --> 02:10:24,540 the day for that. Wow. Wow. Wow that is that's borderline 2290 02:10:24,540 --> 02:10:27,330 upsetting only because I have a stepdaughter in New York 2291 02:10:28,290 --> 02:10:30,450 John C Dvorak: that they get grab her and throw her in the 2292 02:10:30,510 --> 02:10:31,140 camp. 2293 02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:33,840 Adam Curry: This is part of the International Health Regulations 2294 02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:37,110 um, did tell you this, they want it they want so much control 2295 02:10:37,110 --> 02:10:41,400 just like this nut job in New Mexico under health regulations 2296 02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:45,360 once you know bands yawns it's bad. Yeah, health regulation. 2297 02:10:45,360 --> 02:10:50,040 Oh, no, we gotta lock you up. Luckily, there's one sane voice 2298 02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:57,630 among the sea of horrible, horrible people. And that's Fran 2299 02:10:57,630 --> 02:11:02,610 Drescher. And I knew I liked her. And I liked her even more 2300 02:11:02,610 --> 02:11:04,710 after seeing this on Instagram, 2301 02:11:05,099 --> 02:11:09,419 Unknown: as the President of sag AFTRA, it has been my obligation 2302 02:11:09,629 --> 02:11:13,619 to follow the board's decision to support the employers 2303 02:11:13,619 --> 02:11:18,989 privilege to vaccine mandate productions, as they so pleased, 2304 02:11:19,469 --> 02:11:24,659 as Fran Drescher as well as the president of sag AFTRA. I have 2305 02:11:24,659 --> 02:11:29,999 been outspoken, publicly, as well as with my board, and 2306 02:11:29,999 --> 02:11:35,159 executive director in defense of those members who are 2307 02:11:35,189 --> 02:11:39,689 unvaccinated for a myriad of reasons. And as a consequence, 2308 02:11:39,719 --> 02:11:44,579 has lost their livelihoods, their representation and their 2309 02:11:44,579 --> 02:11:49,169 health benefits. The reason that there are so many prescriptive 2310 02:11:49,169 --> 02:11:54,299 drugs at the pharmacy is because there isn't one kind that works 2311 02:11:54,299 --> 02:12:00,089 for everyone. So to think that every human on the planet can 2312 02:12:00,089 --> 02:12:05,339 take one vaccine is ludicrous, other crimes and make that one 2313 02:12:05,339 --> 02:12:13,199 vaccine, the criteria for who is allowed to work, travel, dine, 2314 02:12:13,229 --> 02:12:17,969 go to theater, etc, is an infringement on the Disabilities 2315 02:12:17,969 --> 02:12:24,179 Act, the freedom of religion act, and body sovereignty. We as 2316 02:12:24,179 --> 02:12:28,859 a nation must be very careful that fear does not turn into 2317 02:12:28,859 --> 02:12:35,249 fascism. When equal citizens stop being equal, when cards 2318 02:12:35,249 --> 02:12:39,479 must be presented to identify whether you are included or 2319 02:12:39,479 --> 02:12:44,519 excluded. We stand at a tipping point of an America I no longer 2320 02:12:44,519 --> 02:12:50,609 recognize. And even though I myself am vaccinated, I must 2321 02:12:50,609 --> 02:12:55,559 applaud Disney for taking the position not to vaccine mandate 2322 02:12:55,559 --> 02:13:00,779 their sets and the longer the problem with discrimination is 2323 02:13:00,779 --> 02:13:06,449 that there will always be good people who justify it because of 2324 02:13:06,449 --> 02:13:12,359 an extreme condition. But it is those times especially when we 2325 02:13:12,359 --> 02:13:17,999 must fight even harder to protect the sanctity of freedom 2326 02:13:17,999 --> 02:13:26,489 for all never succumb to an us versus them mentality. Above all 2327 02:13:26,489 --> 02:13:30,659 else, Freedom peace 2328 02:13:31,019 --> 02:13:32,849 Adam Curry: I liked that. That 2329 02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:36,780 John C Dvorak: bill she's always been demanded mandatory 2330 02:13:36,780 --> 02:13:37,530 vaccines. 2331 02:13:37,680 --> 02:13:40,020 Adam Curry: Yeah, but she she brought in a lot of other she 2332 02:13:40,020 --> 02:13:45,480 she brought in the cards and the others and that was good. She's 2333 02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:47,520 got a target on her back now but that was good. 2334 02:13:47,669 --> 02:13:49,739 John C Dvorak: She's gonna be vote are out. Now. I 2335 02:13:49,740 --> 02:13:51,690 Adam Curry: think she just I think she did. She just got 2336 02:13:52,710 --> 02:13:57,180 reelected. I don't think she did this before her reelection. That 2337 02:13:57,180 --> 02:14:01,800 will be crazy. No, I liked that. There was a sane voice I liked 2338 02:14:01,800 --> 02:14:04,110 she threw in a little nanny. That's ludicrous. She 2339 02:14:04,110 --> 02:14:05,910 John C Dvorak: threw it 2340 02:14:08,220 --> 02:14:12,480 Adam Curry: like that. And you know what else I like saying to 2341 02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:15,510 you in the morning the man who just put the sea in the 2342 02:14:15,510 --> 02:14:18,150 quarantine camps ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend 2343 02:14:18,150 --> 02:14:20,490 on the other end the one and only Mr. John 2344 02:14:25,680 --> 02:14:26,280 Unknown: Green Marine 2345 02:14:34,710 --> 02:14:38,880 Adam Curry: 1902 We have in the troll room right now. 1902 I 2346 02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:41,730 think that's good for Thursday if I'm not mistaken. 100 up, 2347 02:14:41,820 --> 02:14:44,280 we're up. We're up and we're late. So it's good. We're up 2348 02:14:44,280 --> 02:14:47,370 we're gonna do one segment for you all. And the trolls are 2349 02:14:47,370 --> 02:14:51,420 listening in Hello trolls. I do love the trolls. Trolls think I 2350 02:14:51,420 --> 02:14:54,270 don't like him but I adore the troll you're 2351 02:14:54,270 --> 02:14:55,500 John C Dvorak: telling me after the show. 2352 02:14:55,530 --> 02:14:58,830 Adam Curry: I adore them because they keep me on edge keep me 2353 02:14:58,860 --> 02:15:02,880 riled up at one I need it and, and they give me a good one 2354 02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:05,670 liners that give me some some duds and some bombs, but I'll 2355 02:15:05,670 --> 02:15:08,670 try them all Thank you, trolls. And you too can be a part of 2356 02:15:08,670 --> 02:15:12,810 that but going to troll room.io We send out a bad signal before 2357 02:15:12,810 --> 02:15:15,960 we actually when we're playing the fat lady before the show. I 2358 02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:19,830 know politically incorrect but she's fat she sings we have. And 2359 02:15:19,830 --> 02:15:23,460 also you can get an alert on a modern podcast app dump all 2360 02:15:23,460 --> 02:15:26,970 those old ones I'm telling you now. They're all going to be 2361 02:15:26,970 --> 02:15:29,700 controlled eventually if they already are, but it's just gonna 2362 02:15:29,700 --> 02:15:33,810 get worse. podcast apps.com We recommend today pod verse 2363 02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:36,540 because it will give you an alert when we fire up that bad 2364 02:15:36,540 --> 02:15:38,970 signal so far. It's the only one that's done that but a lot of 2365 02:15:38,970 --> 02:15:42,630 them have the live stream. And and of course you can jump into 2366 02:15:42,630 --> 02:15:46,470 troll room as well. And you can follow us on no agenda 2367 02:15:46,470 --> 02:15:53,640 social.com If you want, which is still the outpost on the on the 2368 02:15:53,640 --> 02:15:58,530 Fetty verse the mastodon now, we used to be able to follow 2369 02:15:58,530 --> 02:16:01,800 journalists on a mastodon. They're all gone. They all left 2370 02:16:01,800 --> 02:16:05,490 their blue sky. We're still the outpost the holdouts, the 2371 02:16:05,490 --> 02:16:09,480 holdouts of free speech, had no agenda social.com Follow Jhansi 2372 02:16:09,480 --> 02:16:12,960 Dvorak at origin, the social.com adamant what huh? What are? What 2373 02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:15,540 are? What? What 2374 02:16:15,570 --> 02:16:17,640 John C Dvorak: on that? I was just thinking about I was 2375 02:16:17,670 --> 02:16:23,730 noticing that the phone was disconnected in a way that is 2376 02:16:23,730 --> 02:16:24,930 not what I expected. 2377 02:16:26,790 --> 02:16:31,170 Adam Curry: Wow, okay. Hmm, indeed. Thank you for listening 2378 02:16:31,170 --> 02:16:36,630 to my rant there. I appreciate that. It was good read. You 2379 02:16:36,630 --> 02:16:40,830 notice we don't have any people coming on telling us to be, you 2380 02:16:40,830 --> 02:16:46,530 know, to with big pitches on on getting the VAX or any other 2381 02:16:46,530 --> 02:16:49,890 kinds of corporate creepy corporate money that slides in? 2382 02:16:49,890 --> 02:16:53,370 No, no, in fact, we haven't taken a break for over two 2383 02:16:53,370 --> 02:16:56,580 hours. Whereas if you're listening to the radio, you 2384 02:16:56,580 --> 02:16:59,640 would have had heard at least 20 minutes time, 40 minutes of 2385 02:16:59,640 --> 02:17:02,880 commercials, none of that. We didn't ask you to go to a 2386 02:17:02,880 --> 02:17:07,020 Patreon for some premium content. All the premium is 2387 02:17:07,020 --> 02:17:10,200 right here up front. There's nothing that you can't get to 2388 02:17:10,200 --> 02:17:14,760 for free. We do think is valuable. And we appreciate that 2389 02:17:14,760 --> 02:17:18,480 if you feel value has been received on your end, you send 2390 02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:22,830 that back to us with time talent or treasure. Many ways you can 2391 02:17:22,830 --> 02:17:25,980 do this you can tell someone about the show. That's that's 2392 02:17:26,010 --> 02:17:29,700 hitting people in the mouth is a big part of it. You can also 2393 02:17:29,970 --> 02:17:33,240 create jingles get clips to us do boots on the ground, so many 2394 02:17:33,240 --> 02:17:36,900 ways you can participate. One of the things we love the most is 2395 02:17:36,930 --> 02:17:40,650 very talented artists. And these artists listen to the show live 2396 02:17:40,650 --> 02:17:44,490 that one of those 19 102 people today, and they are trying to 2397 02:17:44,490 --> 02:17:48,000 come up with outstanding artwork that will fit perfectly with 2398 02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:52,380 this episode because the Muller report, the Muller report shows 2399 02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:56,220 that a good piece of art gets people interested reminds them 2400 02:17:56,220 --> 02:17:58,740 that we are the best podcast in the universe, because we had the 2401 02:17:58,740 --> 02:18:03,330 best podcast art in the universe. And we'd like to thank 2402 02:18:03,330 --> 02:18:06,870 the artists who brought us the artwork for episode 1589 2403 02:18:07,020 --> 02:18:10,590 misidentified I might might point out the my opening of the 2404 02:18:10,590 --> 02:18:14,790 last show as 1598 for some reason. Oh, oh, yeah. In 2405 02:18:14,790 --> 02:18:18,750 blender. Yeah. I'm from the future. And as 2406 02:18:18,750 --> 02:18:20,580 John C Dvorak: you know, 5098 2407 02:18:21,780 --> 02:18:25,080 Adam Curry: COVID v 90 idea. Yeah. As from the future. I'm 10 2408 02:18:25,080 --> 02:18:26,160 episodes in the future is 2409 02:18:26,160 --> 02:18:27,540 John C Dvorak: dyslexic future the 2410 02:18:27,540 --> 02:18:33,960 Adam Curry: Exactly. The artwork came to us from Kenny Ben Dame 2411 02:18:33,960 --> 02:18:38,460 Kenny, Ben. And she brought us and exactly as you predicted, 2412 02:18:38,460 --> 02:18:41,490 John, some people thought it was about the football match. This 2413 02:18:41,490 --> 02:18:46,890 was the Bama pencil. Very short, stubby, thin, pencil. Bomber 2414 02:18:47,160 --> 02:18:47,700 bomber. 2415 02:18:47,850 --> 02:18:49,950 John C Dvorak: Yeah, a lot of people's Crimson Tide. 2416 02:18:49,980 --> 02:18:52,800 Adam Curry: A lot of people thought it was about that. Many 2417 02:18:52,800 --> 02:18:56,400 people realized there was about the donation segment on the last 2418 02:18:56,400 --> 02:19:00,360 show of which one complained. Only one complaint I was 2419 02:19:00,360 --> 02:19:05,100 surprised. You said it wasn't. I thought there'll be many more. 2420 02:19:05,490 --> 02:19:07,260 Only one complaint and that time she 2421 02:19:07,260 --> 02:19:09,060 John C Dvorak: gets because there's only one guy listening. 2422 02:19:09,089 --> 02:19:14,489 Adam Curry: It was a she? She only one guy listening. Yes, I 2423 02:19:14,489 --> 02:19:17,999 got that note. Yeah. But she she said she just turned off the 2424 02:19:17,999 --> 02:19:21,059 donation segment and then she came back so that's good news. I 2425 02:19:21,059 --> 02:19:23,399 understand. I understand why that was harsh. She was tough to 2426 02:19:23,399 --> 02:19:27,989 listen to. Um, there were a number of choices that we could 2427 02:19:27,989 --> 02:19:31,229 make. We had to make one of course. So we thank all of the 2428 02:19:31,229 --> 02:19:33,719 artists let's see what we were looking at. What do we have to 2429 02:19:33,719 --> 02:19:36,899 work with? What's your fav this one right off the bat? It was my 2430 02:19:36,899 --> 02:19:38,279 fav yes. No doubt. 2431 02:19:39,480 --> 02:19:41,790 John C Dvorak: was a lot of Kennedy's playing tennis which 2432 02:19:41,790 --> 02:19:47,040 is funny. Yeah. A few cheesecake things here and there. 2433 02:19:47,939 --> 02:19:49,619 Adam Curry: Shall Obama Big Mike. 2434 02:19:51,480 --> 02:19:54,060 John C Dvorak: Mike, it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna 2435 02:19:54,060 --> 02:19:57,090 happen. There really wasn't a lot of competitive wasn't 2436 02:19:57,090 --> 02:20:02,190 anything that really stood want to do you Who's? No that was 2437 02:20:02,190 --> 02:20:03,270 going to work? 2438 02:20:03,300 --> 02:20:09,060 Adam Curry: No. No, I did like correct the record who had a guy 2439 02:20:09,060 --> 02:20:11,850 holding up a sign saying Obama's Dong is more interesting than 2440 02:20:11,850 --> 02:20:14,280 clips about Africa. That was funny message 2441 02:20:14,280 --> 02:20:18,930 John C Dvorak: just a message to you was really submission wasn't 2442 02:20:18,930 --> 02:20:23,460 meant as art allows us to do that all the time. I don't know. 2443 02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:26,310 There was another artist that used to send us messages by 2444 02:20:26,310 --> 02:20:28,950 turning in art with a note somebody holding a note which 2445 02:20:28,950 --> 02:20:30,660 was complaining about something. 2446 02:20:30,990 --> 02:20:36,000 Adam Curry: I don't remember who that was. But it's okay. Sir net 2447 02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:42,420 net did a trans mouse thing I mean, it's I think that you want 2448 02:20:42,420 --> 02:20:45,570 something like the what I liked about Dame Kenny Benz is you 2449 02:20:45,570 --> 02:20:49,140 didn't have to hear the show to know that something was up. And 2450 02:20:49,140 --> 02:20:54,030 it was mysterious because as a Bama as an Alabama is Bama as an 2451 02:20:54,030 --> 02:20:59,010 Obama. No it was it was very popped and really pop it was a 2452 02:20:59,010 --> 02:21:03,600 hand drawn pencil. It wasn't a picture of it wasn't clipart so 2453 02:21:03,600 --> 02:21:06,900 it was it was I thought it was a very good piece. I really loved 2454 02:21:06,900 --> 02:21:10,500 it. So net net threw in a freeze peach but now no one will get 2455 02:21:10,500 --> 02:21:14,280 that and J con sketch did a sketch But nope, nope, not and I 2456 02:21:14,280 --> 02:21:16,290 like that. You're doing sketches, but that wasn't the 2457 02:21:16,290 --> 02:21:21,000 one so clearly named Kenny. Ben. She for the wind. How are we on 2458 02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:24,450 the on the leaderboard? Where's Dame Kenny mentioned number 2459 02:21:24,450 --> 02:21:29,070 five. Number five for the past year of the top 10 That's pretty 2460 02:21:29,070 --> 02:21:32,970 good. Network still number one Taunton Neil number two capillus 2461 02:21:32,970 --> 02:21:36,330 agenda number three, Nikko sign number four. There she is named 2462 02:21:36,330 --> 02:21:40,230 Kenny BIM. Number five. Thank you to all of our artists for 2463 02:21:40,500 --> 02:21:44,850 really giving it the Yeoman's try, but only one can win and 2464 02:21:44,850 --> 02:21:48,600 we're happy to credit that artist in the in our show notes 2465 02:21:48,600 --> 02:21:52,380 which we do diligently thank you again. Damn Kenny. Bam. Now to 2466 02:21:52,380 --> 02:21:56,010 the ever important treasurer part of how you can send back 2467 02:21:56,070 --> 02:22:01,230 value to the no agenda show. We have a couple of executive and 2468 02:22:01,230 --> 02:22:05,340 Associate Executive producers to thank a number of them becoming 2469 02:22:06,090 --> 02:22:09,990 knights and ordains today kicking off do you have this 2470 02:22:09,990 --> 02:22:15,900 note? This note here? The first one is from anonymous. Do you 2471 02:22:15,900 --> 02:22:17,490 have this note John Yeah, behind you. I 2472 02:22:17,490 --> 02:22:18,420 John C Dvorak: have it right in front of me. 2473 02:22:18,449 --> 02:22:21,419 Adam Curry: Okay, tell me about this note because it was a doozy 2474 02:22:21,419 --> 02:22:28,949 of a donation 22 I have the note how 22 a massive row of ducks 2475 02:22:29,340 --> 02:22:32,100 John C Dvorak: yes anonymous in the morning boys please accept 2476 02:22:32,100 --> 02:22:35,700 his row of ducks value tu tu tu tu tu tu tu I was hitting them 2477 02:22:35,700 --> 02:22:40,620 out two years ago by Sir son of the fort and have rarely missed 2478 02:22:40,620 --> 02:22:44,970 a show since but I have never contributed until now. Well 2479 02:22:44,970 --> 02:22:48,180 that's how you do it. Yeah, so I need a solid D douching. 2480 02:22:48,900 --> 02:22:54,300 Adam Curry: Sorry, hold on douching here you've been d do 2481 02:22:54,300 --> 02:22:56,730 solid totally solid. 2482 02:22:57,540 --> 02:22:59,430 John C Dvorak: Thank you for all your work on the greatest 2483 02:22:59,430 --> 02:23:02,760 podcast in the universe your deconstruction of the media and 2484 02:23:02,760 --> 02:23:06,060 news is refreshing I believe it's a row of ducks gives me 2485 02:23:06,060 --> 02:23:09,660 both executive producer and full knighthood status correct if 2486 02:23:09,660 --> 02:23:14,880 approved please Knight me as sir pursuit of peace and tranquility 2487 02:23:15,030 --> 02:23:18,690 and the lands of the red clay and cherry trees. 2488 02:23:19,800 --> 02:23:22,410 Adam Curry: Red Clay and chair is that Japan 2489 02:23:26,190 --> 02:23:27,510 John C Dvorak: right yeah, I don't think so. It's 2490 02:23:27,510 --> 02:23:29,130 Adam Curry: red clay and cherry trees 2491 02:23:30,750 --> 02:23:33,480 John C Dvorak: if knighted if knighted Well, he's will be ice 2492 02:23:33,480 --> 02:23:36,480 on the list as far as I know. Yes. I would greatly appreciate 2493 02:23:36,480 --> 02:23:41,700 Coors Light twist tip only. Twist top only Yes. Double 2494 02:23:41,700 --> 02:23:45,900 pepperoni pizza and hot wings at the round table. I will be 2495 02:23:45,900 --> 02:23:50,010 contributing a shorter row of ducks going forward to keep 2496 02:23:50,010 --> 02:23:53,760 myself current current. No jingles no carbon necessary. 2497 02:23:53,760 --> 02:23:59,520 Thank you. Sincerely anonymous. You go I'm beautiful. 2498 02:24:00,360 --> 02:24:02,310 Adam Curry: I'm just looking at my knees in 2499 02:24:02,310 --> 02:24:05,700 John C Dvorak: Georgia so maybe that's red clay and peach. I got 2500 02:24:05,700 --> 02:24:08,130 it. I gave it his red plane somewhere in Georgia. I 2501 02:24:08,130 --> 02:24:11,400 Adam Curry: don't know I got it. I got it. Thank you very much. 2502 02:24:11,490 --> 02:24:15,480 That's beautiful. Then we have David now so we know David now 2503 02:24:15,480 --> 02:24:22,620 730 Mouse family Yes 738 72 and says if you mentioned nows 2504 02:24:22,620 --> 02:24:26,010 drywall of petroleum Ontario Canada Navy I can write this off 2505 02:24:26,010 --> 02:24:27,750 as marketing okay 2506 02:24:27,929 --> 02:24:31,709 John C Dvorak: now's drywall of petroleum Ontario Canada. 2507 02:24:33,720 --> 02:24:37,320 Adam Curry: JR requests Natural Humanity ISIS Gregorian donate 2508 02:24:37,320 --> 02:24:41,820 to no agenda show. My 30/41 birthday is on the show day 2509 02:24:41,820 --> 02:24:45,180 September 14. So we've got all that for you. Night name is 2510 02:24:45,180 --> 02:24:46,860 because you're going to be knighted a lot of stuff 2511 02:24:46,860 --> 02:24:50,970 happening here sir drywall of the Walnut Ridge. Side note i 2512 02:24:50,970 --> 02:24:53,760 Listen Live on Sundays while I have my Sunday afternoon nap for 2513 02:24:53,760 --> 02:24:57,990 humanity. Then relisting on Monday to what I've missed. When 2514 02:24:57,990 --> 02:25:00,900 you play the Ontario Canada emergency See alert tone a few 2515 02:25:00,900 --> 02:25:03,450 weeks ago I woke up assuming there was an Amber Alert for 2516 02:25:03,450 --> 02:25:06,330 kidnapping for those of us that nap for humanity while listening 2517 02:25:06,330 --> 02:25:09,990 to no agenda may we request that you avoid disruptive noises as 2518 02:25:09,990 --> 02:25:13,950 it disturbs our peaceful rest just kidding of course we in the 2519 02:25:13,950 --> 02:25:19,920 Knouse family love all that you do for us humanity 2520 02:25:20,400 --> 02:25:26,130 Unknown: donate to no agenda they give us as we get there we 2521 02:25:26,160 --> 02:25:31,950 donate to and no agenda is the show that's really unique. 2522 02:25:32,010 --> 02:25:39,120 Donate to no agenda. This John Adams be there that Own h2 With 2523 02:25:39,120 --> 02:25:43,650 no agenda. Science is turning into a clique. 2524 02:25:43,920 --> 02:25:46,440 John C Dvorak: There you go. Nice once you get the next one 2525 02:25:46,440 --> 02:25:47,610 and I'll get the one with the note. 2526 02:25:47,939 --> 02:25:52,769 Adam Curry: Okay, hold on a second. This is from Lisa 2527 02:25:52,799 --> 02:25:57,149 church. I believe church Brentwood, Tennessee. John Rich 2528 02:25:57,149 --> 02:26:01,499 church. Well, doesn't matter because it's a switcheroo. This 2529 02:26:01,499 --> 02:26:04,919 $640 donation is to the best podcast in the universe and 2530 02:26:04,919 --> 02:26:07,979 celebrate my better half 64th trip around the sun Happy 2531 02:26:07,979 --> 02:26:11,519 Birthday mark. All right, let me change that to mark all right. 2532 02:26:12,449 --> 02:26:17,909 Consider that done. Okay, set. Mark. Sure. With this donation 2533 02:26:17,909 --> 02:26:20,819 Mark church becomes a night a perfect gift for the guy who 2534 02:26:20,819 --> 02:26:23,759 buys his own birthday gifts leaving us with no ideas 2535 02:26:23,789 --> 02:26:26,069 however, this gift of a knighthood will honor Him 2536 02:26:26,069 --> 02:26:29,579 forever long outliving the golf balls he loses or the running 2537 02:26:29,579 --> 02:26:37,529 shoes he wears out please Knight mark as Sir Lee engineers surly 2538 02:26:37,529 --> 02:26:41,969 engineer very funny in honor of his long career as an E like 2539 02:26:41,999 --> 02:26:45,299 electrical engineer shout out to our favorite spooks surveillance 2540 02:26:45,419 --> 02:26:48,869 who hit us in the mouth several years ago jingles a biscuit for 2541 02:26:48,869 --> 02:26:51,419 his birthday and I can do that right they always give me a 2542 02:26:51,419 --> 02:26:55,799 biscuit on my birthday. Anything from rev owl you're really 2543 02:26:55,799 --> 02:26:59,009 asking for everything you see rev owl Okay, gotta rip out and 2544 02:26:59,009 --> 02:27:02,789 screaming dog karma for the roundtable. Please serve egg and 2545 02:27:02,789 --> 02:27:05,819 cheese bagels and Diet Coke along with the obligatory mutton 2546 02:27:05,819 --> 02:27:08,879 and meat. Thanks for all you do. From Lisa church in Brentwood, 2547 02:27:08,909 --> 02:27:09,569 Tennessee, 2548 02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:14,310 Unknown: the GOP inviting is escalating. Political says 2549 02:27:14,310 --> 02:27:18,930 Democrats are outright Jide happy to watch the GOP 2550 02:27:28,620 --> 02:27:31,230 John C Dvorak: a really nice card that came in from Patricia 2551 02:27:31,230 --> 02:27:37,350 Lewis in Merced, California 33334. And she writes in a nice 2552 02:27:37,350 --> 02:27:41,070 handwriting to Dear John and Adam, thank you for continually 2553 02:27:41,070 --> 02:27:44,910 bringing awesome content followed by deconstruction of 2554 02:27:44,940 --> 02:27:50,700 pertinent news. Yes, this enclosed donation is a double 2555 02:27:50,700 --> 02:27:56,310 birthday contribution for my son Brian Lewis of a Tuscadero and 2556 02:27:56,310 --> 02:28:01,920 myself Patricia Lewis of Merced to California. We celebrate a 2557 02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:06,780 shared birthday on September 20. He was the best gift I've ever 2558 02:28:06,780 --> 02:28:11,310 received jobs karma for all in deep appreciation signed 2559 02:28:11,310 --> 02:28:13,320 Patricia Lewis 2560 02:28:13,350 --> 02:28:15,960 Adam Curry: now we got that for you jobs and regular karma 2561 02:28:15,990 --> 02:28:23,520 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's Armand 2562 02:28:25,320 --> 02:28:30,540 Adam Curry: Luca Maria as Berto is in Soboba, Switzerland, yes, 2563 02:28:30,540 --> 02:28:35,160 Switzerland ch Switzerland, I believe. Yeah. 333 dot 33 Happy 2564 02:28:35,160 --> 02:28:39,600 belated birthday to me. What? Yeah, yes, Switzerland. Happy 2565 02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:43,260 belated birthday to me September 11. That's right. I'm an inside 2566 02:28:43,260 --> 02:28:44,670 job. Thank you for your 2567 02:28:44,670 --> 02:28:47,760 John C Dvorak: courage. She's on the list 2568 02:28:47,880 --> 02:28:50,820 Adam Curry: key I think it Luca is I'm just gonna Luca 2569 02:28:51,720 --> 02:28:54,840 John C Dvorak: Shia Baron anonymous cop in Redwood City, 2570 02:28:54,840 --> 02:28:58,230 California. Now he says advertising read voice Okay. 2571 02:28:58,650 --> 02:29:03,270 Bear an anonymous copy here. The unofficial seller of new agenda 2572 02:29:03,270 --> 02:29:07,440 tactical patches and limited edition challenge coins on 2573 02:29:07,470 --> 02:29:13,650 etsy.com/bootleg coin ca of which I have only a few show 2574 02:29:13,650 --> 02:29:18,030 1500 coins left. Check them out while you can before the 2575 02:29:18,030 --> 02:29:22,710 holidays start ready to five out of five by no agenda nation. 2576 02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:29,820 John I'm appalled at the flurry of abhorrent content you played 2577 02:29:29,820 --> 02:29:34,410 on show 50 And there's a second complainer it is if you didn't 2578 02:29:34,410 --> 02:29:38,610 give that one a listen it's a must people with that horrific 2579 02:29:38,640 --> 02:29:40,770 Oh, he's talking about the vocal fried tic tock 2580 02:29:40,800 --> 02:29:41,670 Adam Curry: oh okay, well 2581 02:29:41,670 --> 02:29:44,520 John C Dvorak: that was a dead horrible vocal fried kick talker 2582 02:29:44,520 --> 02:29:48,120 as the cherry on top of the No I guess it will he's just like to 2583 02:29:48,120 --> 02:29:51,960 show the content almost made me crash on highway 101 during rush 2584 02:29:51,960 --> 02:29:55,980 hour while dodging potholes. Please by God, no more of that. 2585 02:29:55,980 --> 02:29:58,770 I will keep this short. I have been reassigned to graveyard 2586 02:29:58,770 --> 02:30:02,460 hours protecting the road Elon Musk, the zombies and things 2587 02:30:02,460 --> 02:30:05,400 that go bump in the night. This show is what grounds me on my 2588 02:30:05,400 --> 02:30:08,790 days off and I think you guys all listen to the show on 2589 02:30:08,790 --> 02:30:12,810 graveyard in the car. And thank both of you and the entire nogen 2590 02:30:12,810 --> 02:30:17,310 a nation and messy over 10 years of listening. Cheers, gentlemen, 2591 02:30:17,310 --> 02:30:21,180 the Baron anonymous copy of the Bay Area. Adam, I just switched 2592 02:30:21,180 --> 02:30:26,760 from graphene OS to calyx OS on my Pixel. Give it a look. 2593 02:30:26,940 --> 02:30:31,170 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's a hard pass for me. calyx OS is 2594 02:30:31,170 --> 02:30:35,880 sponsored by the Canadian government. So that's a that's 2595 02:30:35,880 --> 02:30:39,420 just a no, but thank you. And I'm glad that you like it. Baron 2596 02:30:39,420 --> 02:30:43,890 anonymous cop. Peter McCool, Yuba City California 333 Please 2597 02:30:43,890 --> 02:30:51,570 dee doo dee doo SBT jingles little scary little girl scary 2598 02:30:51,570 --> 02:30:55,530 bow Jaiden Biden whole load women no karma for all right 2599 02:30:59,280 --> 02:31:02,220 Unknown: I'm gonna give you the whole load. No, no, no, no, no, 2600 02:31:02,220 --> 02:31:03,060 no, no, no, no. 2601 02:31:03,300 --> 02:31:07,590 Adam Curry: That's not the women you where's the one? That's 2602 02:31:07,590 --> 02:31:10,380 weird. It was ice. Oh, no, I don't understand. Let me just 2603 02:31:10,380 --> 02:31:16,260 see. ISO No, this is on how can this be hit it? Now? That's the 2604 02:31:16,260 --> 02:31:23,370 wrong one. It's May it's maybe it's no ISIL oh man, we've lost 2605 02:31:23,370 --> 02:31:24,390 this one before. 2606 02:31:24,630 --> 02:31:27,270 John C Dvorak: B L G in Jacksonville. Florida is up. 2607 02:31:27,270 --> 02:31:32,370 Sorry. 100 bucks. Dear John. What Adam? Firstly, I much 2608 02:31:32,370 --> 02:31:36,600 prefer you to add him. Thanks for letting him know. Secondly, 2609 02:31:36,600 --> 02:31:40,890 my husband Oh, this is a female listener. Secondly, my husband 2610 02:31:40,890 --> 02:31:43,650 gave me Mimi's books too many eggs for my birthday and I love 2611 02:31:43,650 --> 02:31:48,120 it. Too many eggs.com in following this donation is for 2612 02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:51,270 my husband. It's his birthday. Today is September 14. And so I 2613 02:31:51,270 --> 02:31:53,220 would like him to get a biscuit. 2614 02:31:53,760 --> 02:31:57,120 Adam Curry: No, you don't like me? So thanks no Biscay 2615 02:31:57,120 --> 02:31:58,110 subscribing 2616 02:31:58,110 --> 02:32:01,080 John C Dvorak: but he likes busy under a rock so he will remain 2617 02:32:01,080 --> 02:32:06,540 anonymous. Thanks blg so this is a muting to be very rude 2618 02:32:06,540 --> 02:32:09,450 switcheroo we're gonna give it to her husband anyway. On what 2619 02:32:09,480 --> 02:32:10,650 Adam Curry: we say anonymous. 2620 02:32:13,740 --> 02:32:16,890 John C Dvorak: Via BL G's anonymous husband I don't know 2621 02:32:16,920 --> 02:32:19,680 Adam Curry: but she wants me to after this rude comments. She 2622 02:32:19,680 --> 02:32:22,440 wants me to give her husband a biscuit first birthday. 2623 02:32:22,560 --> 02:32:24,870 John C Dvorak: She just prefers me. She didn't say she hates 2624 02:32:24,870 --> 02:32:25,230 you. 2625 02:32:26,070 --> 02:32:29,220 Unknown: Okay, they always give me a biscuit on my birthday. 2626 02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:33,360 Adam Curry: I prefer you to her as well. Dame Bay Area 2627 02:32:33,360 --> 02:32:37,710 wildfires. San Martin California 300 This is one of your dame's 2628 02:32:37,710 --> 02:32:40,920 de Bay Bay Area wildfire I donated to do a shout out to my 2629 02:32:40,920 --> 02:32:44,100 great friend Kristen on September 16. It's her birthday. 2630 02:32:44,310 --> 02:32:47,580 I promise I won't mention her age. We both live in that 2631 02:32:47,580 --> 02:32:50,490 wonderful sheep state California. I have to say this 2632 02:32:50,490 --> 02:32:52,980 is one of the bravest people I know we recently came back from 2633 02:32:52,980 --> 02:32:57,960 Las Vegas from jumping off the stratosphere a height of 856 2634 02:32:57,960 --> 02:33:01,470 feet straight down off of a zipline give this woman a 2635 02:33:01,470 --> 02:33:03,090 biscuit on her birthday always 2636 02:33:03,090 --> 02:33:05,850 Unknown: give me a biscuit on my birthday please Good day. 2637 02:33:05,910 --> 02:33:09,330 Adam Curry: It is biscuit day. Please from the both of you tell 2638 02:33:09,330 --> 02:33:14,700 her she's the best. You're the best. You guys best You guys are 2639 02:33:14,700 --> 02:33:19,530 amazing. Keep up your best work we always aim to please 2640 02:33:21,570 --> 02:33:23,220 John C Dvorak: Okay, you can get no 2641 02:33:23,250 --> 02:33:25,740 Adam Curry: no no you can get this one all right, y'all get 2642 02:33:25,740 --> 02:33:27,600 the no you know the reason is I 2643 02:33:27,600 --> 02:33:32,520 John C Dvorak: can't focus Yeah, the whole dog Doc's me bro. 2644 02:33:32,880 --> 02:33:35,280 Adam Curry: This is Renegades six and I have a note to go with 2645 02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:40,260 my switcheroo donation for my smokin hot S H K. What does that 2646 02:33:40,260 --> 02:33:46,200 sparkles of chaos. Oh, okay, actually. Luckily, we only have 2647 02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:50,220 to read the On Air note. We got all this but renegades, called 2648 02:33:50,220 --> 02:33:54,420 right Texas switcheroo donation for my smokin hot keeper sh K we 2649 02:33:54,420 --> 02:33:58,470 got it sparkles of chaos. So looting her pair of Crenshaw 2650 02:33:58,470 --> 02:34:02,910 melons and asking for some health karma. Can I please get 2651 02:34:02,910 --> 02:34:07,680 her a few bars of JC DS I've got ants. Yes, I can get you some 2652 02:34:07,680 --> 02:34:11,790 ants no problem. I love getting ants for melons and then old 2653 02:34:11,790 --> 02:34:15,720 Yellin karma thanks for all you do to break down the scams You 2654 02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:16,140 bet you. 2655 02:34:46,170 --> 02:34:52,560 John C Dvorak: Okay, so now we have the demo region, one meet 2656 02:34:52,560 --> 02:34:58,860 up report. On paper, we donation from the first semi annual FEMA 2657 02:34:58,860 --> 02:35:02,850 Region One back Backyard bonfire fire bash. It was a great 2658 02:35:02,850 --> 02:35:07,020 success all told, we had 14 people in attendance with no 2659 02:35:07,020 --> 02:35:10,140 repeats from the last meetup. I don't know if that's good or 2660 02:35:10,140 --> 02:35:16,590 bad. Maybe the next time we'll catch them all. Anyways, here's 2661 02:35:16,590 --> 02:35:20,130 some money Keep up the good work please group de Deus the 2662 02:35:20,130 --> 02:35:26,700 following people, Elise span, Isla Jacques DITA, Ivana Troy 2663 02:35:26,700 --> 02:35:31,860 and Sarah. Yes. This says Love you. Bye. 2664 02:35:33,690 --> 02:35:34,800 Unknown: You've been de 2665 02:35:34,800 --> 02:35:40,050 Adam Curry: deuced Brian McCormack, Bel Air Maryland 250. 2666 02:35:40,050 --> 02:35:42,510 Adam and John, thank you so much for the greatest podcast in the 2667 02:35:42,510 --> 02:35:46,200 universe. Please find the 250 donated via PayPal. The donation 2668 02:35:46,200 --> 02:35:50,070 is honor of Karen McCormack my devastatingly cute wife and 2669 02:35:50,070 --> 02:35:54,690 retired COBOL programmer even says funny Cobalts but we got 2670 02:35:54,690 --> 02:35:59,520 you. We met in the real Motown aka Morgantown, West Virginia. 2671 02:35:59,520 --> 02:36:04,650 That's right Motown not far from Salem, in 1981. Please play 2672 02:36:04,860 --> 02:36:09,270 China is as Whoa, I got that one for you got the full one. And go 2673 02:36:09,270 --> 02:36:11,910 karma as these are her favorites. Adam. Where can I 2674 02:36:11,910 --> 02:36:15,390 send the pepperoni rolls to do you have a preferred brand? Send 2675 02:36:15,390 --> 02:36:22,830 that to my Pio box, Pio box 1849 Fredericksburg, Texas 78642 But 2676 02:36:22,830 --> 02:36:26,430 John would also like some pepperoni rolls. So send them to 2677 02:36:26,430 --> 02:36:29,850 art no agenda Pio box which you can find this I get it in there 2678 02:36:29,880 --> 02:36:31,620 dvorak.org/na 2679 02:36:31,680 --> 02:36:37,080 Unknown: No trying don't trust China Chinese as you've got 2680 02:36:38,790 --> 02:36:39,300 karma. 2681 02:36:40,050 --> 02:36:43,950 John C Dvorak: By the way that guy did that. To thing call out. 2682 02:36:43,980 --> 02:36:46,410 Yeah, he's dead. No, he's 2683 02:36:46,410 --> 02:36:47,700 Adam Curry: dead. Yeah, they 2684 02:36:47,700 --> 02:36:50,610 John C Dvorak: found him and shot him in the head. Are you 2685 02:36:50,610 --> 02:36:56,580 kidding me? I'm just okay. Seems like he should be no Linda Lou 2686 02:36:56,580 --> 02:37:02,220 patcon in Lakewood, Colorado is up for her. I'm back for round 2687 02:37:02,220 --> 02:37:06,600 two jobs karma and for a resume that gets results go to Image 2688 02:37:06,600 --> 02:37:10,680 makers inc.com For all your executive resume and job search 2689 02:37:10,680 --> 02:37:16,500 needs. That's image makers Inc. With a k.com or just find Linda 2690 02:37:16,500 --> 02:37:18,390 Lou patcon on the producers this 2691 02:37:18,420 --> 02:37:24,690 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. No, 2692 02:37:26,250 --> 02:37:30,000 Adam Curry: that's not a makeup. She never she never you know 2693 02:37:30,030 --> 02:37:34,050 something was wrong with the with the Pay Pal export on show 2694 02:37:34,080 --> 02:37:38,040 at eight I think. And a couple of donations got dropped and 2695 02:37:38,040 --> 02:37:41,580 hers was dropped. I don't think she's broken her streak. I 2696 02:37:41,580 --> 02:37:41,970 believe 2697 02:37:42,000 --> 02:37:44,490 John C Dvorak: well assume she hasn't because she says she has 2698 02:37:44,490 --> 02:37:49,860 in there's no reason to. Back keenly. She's got some person in 2699 02:37:49,860 --> 02:37:52,830 the office. They're just sending this in every week. 2700 02:37:53,519 --> 02:37:57,179 Adam Curry: Where we show Dame Valerie. Dane Beth is every 2701 02:37:57,179 --> 02:38:01,439 show. Every show. Every show every single show Dane Beth as 2702 02:38:01,439 --> 02:38:04,169 our final Associate Executive producer from Tucson, Arizona, 2703 02:38:04,169 --> 02:38:07,739 Ohio boys will how to you comrade, time for another two 2704 02:38:07,739 --> 02:38:10,919 hot Tucson meetup Thursday September 21. from four to seven 2705 02:38:10,919 --> 02:38:15,449 at crime canyons crown. Join us for libations and laughter No 2706 02:38:15,449 --> 02:38:18,689 jingles no karma. Just good vibes from Dane Beth and these 2707 02:38:18,689 --> 02:38:21,869 are our executive and Associate Executive producers for episode 2708 02:38:21,869 --> 02:38:28,679 1590 10 More until the big 1600 Then we'll also be celebrating 2709 02:38:28,679 --> 02:38:32,699 our 60th anniversary in that same week more than likely. And 2710 02:38:32,729 --> 02:38:36,809 these are credits that you can cherish and keep with you for a 2711 02:38:36,809 --> 02:38:41,129 lifetime. You can have more than one if you want by the way it 2712 02:38:41,129 --> 02:38:44,129 goes per episode. And you can use that anywhere credits are 2713 02:38:44,129 --> 02:38:48,629 recognized Fran Drescher might recognize you because it's a 2714 02:38:48,629 --> 02:38:53,429 real credit. And thank you for being executive and Associate 2715 02:38:53,429 --> 02:38:57,059 Executive producers of the best podcast in the universe. If 2716 02:38:57,059 --> 02:39:02,189 you'd like to become one go here. for.org/and a John will 2717 02:39:02,189 --> 02:39:04,709 take us through to the 50s We'll get to our meetups and nice 2718 02:39:04,709 --> 02:39:06,239 things and birthdays and we have lots of 2719 02:39:06,240 --> 02:39:10,260 John C Dvorak: students or be Michael de Morinville in Nevada 2720 02:39:10,260 --> 02:39:17,130 City, California. 150 dot 51 price should be called a redneck 2721 02:39:17,130 --> 02:39:22,860 hippie Melissa Reeve in Winchester, Virginia 106 or 2722 02:39:22,860 --> 02:39:27,450 Stephen in Meridian, Idaho $100.33 with a birthday call 2723 02:39:27,480 --> 02:39:34,050 coming. Mary Ellen Smith and Stuart Florida 100 Melissa Reeve 2724 02:39:34,050 --> 02:39:40,140 in Winchester, Virginia 100 John Mudge in Denver, Colorado 100 2725 02:39:40,380 --> 02:39:45,780 Cindy horn Meyer in Rancho Sangam Santa Margarita, 2726 02:39:46,050 --> 02:39:51,900 California 9457 with a said for Tet for husband Ted and his 2727 02:39:51,900 --> 02:40:00,540 Birthday Sir Paul in Twickenham, Middlesex, UK 808 and G He's got 2728 02:40:00,570 --> 02:40:04,770 his love of his life Ellie on the birthday list to Kevin 2729 02:40:04,770 --> 02:40:09,330 McLaughlin Concord, North Carolina 808 This is the boob 2730 02:40:09,330 --> 02:40:13,620 donation but it's for melons, Valencia melons Verlet or 2731 02:40:13,620 --> 02:40:18,540 Valencia Valencia melons. There'll be today's melon of the 2732 02:40:18,540 --> 02:40:24,720 day for 808. Also Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana. 808 2733 02:40:24,720 --> 02:40:30,510 David Jarman in Northwest Territories Australia, New South 2734 02:40:30,510 --> 02:40:34,890 Wales, Australia, sorry, Northwest Territories Canada. 2735 02:40:35,910 --> 02:40:40,170 The Powerball ball number 72. So my donation is $72. 2736 02:40:40,740 --> 02:40:44,610 Adam Curry: Nice. Good one Powerball numbers were Amer in 2737 02:40:45,300 --> 02:40:49,020 for excuse me jump. Today's Powerball number is 5000. 2738 02:40:50,310 --> 02:40:54,780 John C Dvorak: There's no such thing. Hello, David Raymer in 2739 02:40:54,780 --> 02:40:58,830 Stamford, Connecticut, six 969 You guys can decode that for 2740 02:40:58,830 --> 02:41:02,220 whatever, however you want. This is bringing him in a knighthood 2741 02:41:02,220 --> 02:41:05,460 for his 69th birthday. I don't know that he's on the birthday 2742 02:41:05,460 --> 02:41:11,940 list. I like to be known as Sir chef sir. Sir chef, sir. I'm not 2743 02:41:11,940 --> 02:41:15,150 sure. But the point is there. I've been listening and 2744 02:41:15,150 --> 02:41:19,680 contributing $11.11 a month since 2015. He's, 2745 02:41:20,010 --> 02:41:22,320 Adam Curry: he's on the birthday list and on the 90 2746 02:41:23,730 --> 02:41:28,320 John C Dvorak: to 9099. Excellent. What is that? It's a 2747 02:41:28,320 --> 02:41:32,460 burgundy. And 9099 is a tremendous year. Oh, 2748 02:41:33,090 --> 02:41:34,110 Adam Curry: I'm so impressed. 2749 02:41:35,460 --> 02:41:39,690 John C Dvorak: Yeah. A chaise Oh, machine. Is your numbers. 2750 02:41:39,690 --> 02:41:40,710 Your name is Shane 2751 02:41:40,890 --> 02:41:42,840 Adam Curry: vezo. Recommended by Lizzo 2752 02:41:45,630 --> 02:41:48,210 John C Dvorak: Theodorus. Could you check him out and see if 2753 02:41:48,210 --> 02:41:51,030 make sure he's on the birthday list just to make sure what the 2754 02:41:51,030 --> 02:41:53,850 adores Theodorus No, no, David Raymer. 2755 02:41:53,880 --> 02:41:55,740 Adam Curry: But just said he's on the birthday list. You don't 2756 02:41:55,770 --> 02:41:56,640 like me here? 2757 02:41:56,640 --> 02:42:00,870 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm reading ahead. Yeah, did our kazimier a 2758 02:42:00,870 --> 02:42:07,200 kazimier or kazimier? Something like that. And he's in E S, 2759 02:42:07,200 --> 02:42:13,530 which is a Spain he's in Spain. Tenerife isn't Tenerife. 6969 2760 02:42:13,530 --> 02:42:18,960 Happy birthday, Adam. I know the feeling. My birthday is July 13. 2761 02:42:18,990 --> 02:42:22,740 We put John birthday. We did William Wilde in Baltimore, 2762 02:42:22,740 --> 02:42:30,360 Maryland. 6969 Jackson Jetty August Alexander von popple. In 2763 02:42:30,360 --> 02:42:35,880 Norway 6969 We'll give you some house selling karma at the end 2764 02:42:35,880 --> 02:42:38,250 John Bigelow 6789. 2765 02:42:39,690 --> 02:42:41,910 Adam Curry: Missing he was missing from the 1588 2766 02:42:41,910 --> 02:42:45,330 spreadsheets. Oh, thank you. He donated again, the word maybe 2767 02:42:45,330 --> 02:42:47,460 this is a mate. Good. Whatever it is. Thank you, John. 2768 02:42:48,450 --> 02:42:51,450 John C Dvorak: We're happy whatever it is. Sir Doherty in 2769 02:42:51,450 --> 02:42:57,450 Stephens City, Virginia. 6543, which is a good one. He's got a 2770 02:42:57,450 --> 02:43:02,940 birthday coming up. Jake's are not Jake Edward abala 6126 is 2771 02:43:02,940 --> 02:43:08,850 the other 1588 Missing donation. Dame Tara in Urbana, Illinois. 2772 02:43:09,030 --> 02:43:17,100 6033. Christopher Walker in Monticello. Minnesota needs a de 2773 02:43:17,100 --> 02:43:17,610 douche. 2774 02:43:19,170 --> 02:43:21,000 Unknown: You've been de deuced 2775 02:43:21,630 --> 02:43:24,510 John C Dvorak: became me with small boobs donation is 606. And 2776 02:43:24,510 --> 02:43:28,290 so did Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina. With 2777 02:43:28,290 --> 02:43:36,060 606 Promoting golden prize melons. Golden prize. I think 2778 02:43:36,060 --> 02:43:41,640 I've had this melon. It's a beauty. I love those 606 Julie 2779 02:43:41,640 --> 02:43:48,120 Shepherd 606 And she wants to de douching for her husband on her 2780 02:43:48,120 --> 02:43:49,290 seventh anniversary and 2781 02:43:49,290 --> 02:43:49,890 Adam Curry: they never had 2782 02:43:51,570 --> 02:43:53,400 Unknown: you've been de deuced 2783 02:43:54,570 --> 02:43:58,230 John C Dvorak: and now we have our favorite dimia Sir Michael 2784 02:43:58,230 --> 02:44:05,400 Anthony in Rosedale New York. 5959 He likes hearing his his 2785 02:44:05,400 --> 02:44:10,320 clips. You know, he does YouTube with a he looks a little bit 2786 02:44:10,320 --> 02:44:16,740 like the mayor got the same bald head and kind of we got a free 2787 02:44:16,740 --> 02:44:22,770 man shoe. Yes. We love him. Sir tooth Yeah. And more work. Wait, 2788 02:44:22,770 --> 02:44:23,070 he'll be 2789 02:44:23,070 --> 02:44:26,400 Adam Curry: appearing as the mayor. Comic Strip live in New 2790 02:44:26,400 --> 02:44:30,870 York City September 21. For a comedy fundraiser. All right. 2791 02:44:30,900 --> 02:44:32,370 I'll see him live everybody. 2792 02:44:32,609 --> 02:44:36,029 John C Dvorak: You have a dev his whole bit. Sir Tooth Fairy. 2793 02:44:36,299 --> 02:44:41,339 Another missing 1588 donation. Christopher Dev, which is 2794 02:44:41,339 --> 02:44:48,509 456 78. Yeah, no, it's for. Didn't even say much mention it. 2795 02:44:49,019 --> 02:44:54,959 Some donation. Christopher dektor 5678 Thomas Grace hung in 2796 02:44:54,959 --> 02:44:58,769 Howard, Ohio. 55. We're getting to the end. Top notch Heating 2797 02:44:58,769 --> 02:45:05,489 and Air top notch. Heating and Air in Manti Utah 25 Ken Ryan in 2798 02:45:05,489 --> 02:45:12,149 Bonita Springs, Florida. 53 Christopher worth in Aurora, 2799 02:45:12,179 --> 02:45:18,269 Colorado 50 to 80 played golf today got card 33 There you go. 2800 02:45:19,979 --> 02:45:24,599 Sign to donate. Anytime you see you see 33 That's a cosmic sign 2801 02:45:24,599 --> 02:45:27,239 to donate to the no agenda show. That's a fact that is 2802 02:45:27,270 --> 02:45:30,270 Adam Curry: it's well in not only that it's in the Durham 2803 02:45:30,270 --> 02:45:30,750 report. 2804 02:45:32,370 --> 02:45:35,190 John C Dvorak: Yes, it is actually. Katherine Morton, 2805 02:45:35,190 --> 02:45:38,760 Charlotte, North Carolina. 5111 sir economic hitman and Tomball, 2806 02:45:38,760 --> 02:45:43,530 Texas 5001. And now we have the $50 donors is a good list of 2807 02:45:43,530 --> 02:45:47,190 them today, starting with Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New York, 2808 02:45:47,520 --> 02:45:53,460 Cory Cunningham in Warrenton, Virginia, John spade in Edmond, 2809 02:45:53,490 --> 02:46:00,210 Oklahoma. Tim del Vecchio and blend in Pennsylvania Stephen 2810 02:46:00,360 --> 02:46:07,140 King, in Box Elder South Dakota, Michael Wendell in Matawan, New 2811 02:46:07,140 --> 02:46:13,200 Jersey. Gary mouse, in Woodland Hills, California. Real deals 2812 02:46:13,200 --> 02:46:19,860 now in San Antonio, Texas comes in with 50. Game Patricia 2813 02:46:19,860 --> 02:46:25,980 Worthington in Miami, Jared gi in Nashville, Tennessee, Brandis 2814 02:46:25,980 --> 02:46:30,750 of y in Port orchard, Washington, Ken Smith in Utica, 2815 02:46:30,750 --> 02:46:38,640 New York, Jeff Hutchinson and atop Topsham Topsham, Maine. In 2816 02:46:38,640 --> 02:46:42,150 Singapore, he says Kevin dills Sir Kevin in Huntersville, North 2817 02:46:42,150 --> 02:46:48,060 Carolina Christian Freeman in San Marcos, Texas. And Christian 2818 02:46:48,060 --> 02:46:55,560 with a C Grealish in Laker land Florida. Daniel Booker rally, a 2819 02:46:55,560 --> 02:46:59,880 Bucha rally I think Bucha butchy rally buccellati rally, 2820 02:47:00,780 --> 02:47:05,700 Lansdale, Pennsylvania, Lansdale, Pennsylvania, and he 2821 02:47:06,870 --> 02:47:10,680 had nothing more to say what he wrote a damn night last on the 2822 02:47:10,680 --> 02:47:13,680 list from Edmonds, Washington. Thank you Dame night. I want to 2823 02:47:13,680 --> 02:47:19,410 thank all these people for making show 1580 I believe that 2824 02:47:19,410 --> 02:47:19,560 it 2825 02:47:19,560 --> 02:47:23,520 Adam Curry: is 1518 I'm nine ahead you're nine you're 2826 02:47:23,520 --> 02:47:27,150 990 9015 1590 2827 02:47:28,080 --> 02:47:31,500 Make good from Shauna Kavanaugh. We missed a birthday note says 2828 02:47:31,500 --> 02:47:36,570 want to wish my smokin hot man Patrick B ought be out. A very 2829 02:47:36,570 --> 02:47:38,970 happy birthday was on September the 12th. 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You can even become a knight or a dame we have one 2840 02:48:14,130 --> 02:48:17,460 queued up for you and ready to go. If you'd like to become a 2841 02:48:17,460 --> 02:48:20,970 producer of the best podcast in the universe please consider 2842 02:48:20,970 --> 02:48:24,480 sending that value back to us for the value got all premium 2843 02:48:24,510 --> 02:48:30,570 all the time no pay wall vora.org/and A has requested the 2844 02:48:30,570 --> 02:48:33,840 karma Here you go. You've got karma 2845 02:48:42,480 --> 02:48:47,040 Wow long list of birthdays today Theodorus kazimier July 30. Luca 2846 02:48:47,040 --> 02:48:51,000 Maria as Berto on the 11th of September Shona for her smokin 2847 02:48:51,000 --> 02:48:55,290 hot man Patrick Bo. September 12. 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David now smart church, David Raymer all 2868 02:50:10,320 --> 02:50:12,420 of you are about to become knights of the no agenda 2869 02:50:12,420 --> 02:50:15,330 roundtable thanks to the contributions of $1,000 or more 2870 02:50:15,330 --> 02:50:19,620 I'm very proud to pronounce the k d as Sir pursuit of peace and 2871 02:50:19,620 --> 02:50:22,830 tranquility in the lands of the red clay and the cherry trees or 2872 02:50:22,830 --> 02:50:27,090 drywall of the Walnut Ridge surly engineer and sir keep SIR 2873 02:50:27,090 --> 02:50:30,600 for you. We've got hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay. 2874 02:50:30,630 --> 02:50:33,870 Also on Deck egg and cheese bagels and Diet Coke. Coors 2875 02:50:33,870 --> 02:50:37,380 Light twist top only with double pepperoni and hot wings and a 2876 02:50:37,380 --> 02:50:42,060 shit. S shirts. Oh 1999 I'm sorry, I pronounced that wrong. 2877 02:50:42,060 --> 02:50:47,190 1999 is she's Oh, she's Oh, tastes good. We also have some 2878 02:50:47,190 --> 02:50:50,250 mutton in me if you want to have that instead of the swanky a 2879 02:50:50,250 --> 02:50:55,290 Shizuo, a 99 Bordeaux and promoted by Lizzo go to no 2880 02:50:55,290 --> 02:51:00,780 agenda rings.com And please size your finger and then send it off 2881 02:51:00,780 --> 02:51:03,150 to us through the handy forms and we know where to send it. 2882 02:51:03,330 --> 02:51:06,900 And of course with that comes the official wax to seal your 2883 02:51:06,900 --> 02:51:10,350 correspondence with and a certificate of authenticity. And 2884 02:51:10,350 --> 02:51:12,480 thank all four of you for becoming knights of the no 2885 02:51:12,480 --> 02:51:13,080 agenda rounds. 2886 02:51:20,580 --> 02:51:24,210 No agenda meetups that can happen anywhere can be two 2887 02:51:24,210 --> 02:51:27,990 people. Sometimes it's just one that's not the best meet up. But 2888 02:51:27,990 --> 02:51:31,620 if even if it's two, if it's 200 a meet up as a meetup that means 2889 02:51:31,620 --> 02:51:35,790 you have local connection to your community, part of Gitmo 2890 02:51:35,790 --> 02:51:39,180 nation. And as we all know, connection is protection. How 2891 02:51:39,180 --> 02:51:40,080 did it go in Maine? 2892 02:51:40,110 --> 02:51:43,680 Unknown: Hey, this is spam and Thompson man with a meetup. I 2893 02:51:43,710 --> 02:51:45,960 don't remember the name of my meetup because I made it really 2894 02:51:45,960 --> 02:51:49,470 long to try to hear Adam for not at all right, we had a good 2895 02:51:49,470 --> 02:51:51,720 turnout. We got a lot of folks here so I'm gonna pass this 2896 02:51:51,720 --> 02:51:52,170 around. 2897 02:51:52,500 --> 02:51:56,520 This is Roy. I've been listening for a long time and I am no 2898 02:51:56,520 --> 02:51:58,920 longer a douchebag I believe. 2899 02:52:01,080 --> 02:52:05,610 Hi, this is Ivana and thank you, Adam and John. I've been 2900 02:52:05,610 --> 02:52:10,080 enjoying your show tremendously, making me laugh Hi, this 2901 02:52:10,080 --> 02:52:12,810 is Tina and we're so grateful to no longer 2902 02:52:16,140 --> 02:52:19,500 Hi, this is Jack and we just expanded our community tonight 2903 02:52:19,500 --> 02:52:21,570 and we met a lot of lovely people thinking 2904 02:52:23,220 --> 02:52:29,340 connection is protection. Yay. In the morning on 3123 2905 02:52:31,590 --> 02:52:34,080 Adam Curry: All right, man, thank you very much and people 2906 02:52:34,080 --> 02:52:38,100 are starting to produce I guess here's Red 33 Red 33 The Boston 2907 02:52:38,100 --> 02:52:48,450 meet up report. What is this is happening. Okay. How's it going? 2908 02:52:48,450 --> 02:52:52,800 This is Sir Charisse by counter Greater Boston. Three, five. 2909 02:52:55,290 --> 02:52:57,930 This is Sir Paul, thank you for your courage. Thank you for your 2910 02:52:57,930 --> 02:53:02,610 garage. Alright. Stop with the sound effects people fairly. How 2911 02:53:02,610 --> 02:53:03,210 did you do? 2912 02:53:03,270 --> 02:53:06,150 Unknown: It's Sean here speaking from Union Taphouse in the 2913 02:53:06,150 --> 02:53:09,270 manioc neighborhood of Philadelphia. I don't think we 2914 02:53:09,270 --> 02:53:13,110 got any spooks here today. Hey, this is Brian in Philadelphia in 2915 02:53:13,110 --> 02:53:13,440 the morning 2916 02:53:13,500 --> 02:53:17,130 in the morning. Shout out John C. Keep saying bullshit. 2917 02:53:17,130 --> 02:53:18,000 Appreciate you, bro 2918 02:53:18,150 --> 02:53:21,630 in the morning. So you guys, thank you for your courage. It's 2919 02:53:21,630 --> 02:53:24,720 my first meetup. And I look forward to the next one. I've 2920 02:53:24,720 --> 02:53:27,480 had a great time. And thanks very lovely guys. 2921 02:53:27,750 --> 02:53:29,670 Adam Curry: We actually had a little impromptu meet up here in 2922 02:53:29,670 --> 02:53:31,980 Fredericksburg. Last night I was having dinner with a buddy 2923 02:53:31,980 --> 02:53:36,180 Tina's where their sister and in the Lynn land of Chicago and 2924 02:53:36,180 --> 02:53:41,310 Northern Indiana. And two people at the table next to us. Karen 2925 02:53:41,310 --> 02:53:44,970 and David Young big no agenda listeners came over hung out we 2926 02:53:44,970 --> 02:53:47,040 had nice little chat Much to the chagrin of most of the 2927 02:53:47,040 --> 02:53:51,990 restaurant and bed and he's an ER doctor here and in 2928 02:53:51,990 --> 02:53:52,710 Fredericksburg. 2929 02:53:53,160 --> 02:53:54,600 John C Dvorak: Oh nice. Good to know. 2930 02:53:54,630 --> 02:53:57,450 Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. So do you know if I if I get a bullet 2931 02:53:57,450 --> 02:53:59,610 wound? No problem. come directly to me. Thank you, brother. 2932 02:53:59,610 --> 02:54:03,360 Appreciate it. Here's what's coming up today. Meet up Why 630 2933 02:54:03,360 --> 02:54:06,120 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. We have the in 2934 02:54:06,120 --> 02:54:09,720 the morning Richmond meet up which is coming up on Saturday 2935 02:54:09,720 --> 02:54:13,500 legend Brewing Company, Richmond, Virginia. It's a scam 2936 02:54:13,500 --> 02:54:17,940 on Saturday, the flips Patio Grill Fort Worth, Texas. We have 2937 02:54:17,940 --> 02:54:21,090 the shrunken amygdala support group at two o'clock on Saturday 2938 02:54:21,090 --> 02:54:24,390 at Tufts group forum in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Red 33 Red 2939 02:54:24,390 --> 02:54:28,260 33 Don't send me one of those meetup reports again. They'll be 2940 02:54:28,260 --> 02:54:31,230 doing it again at Castle Island brewery in Norwood, 2941 02:54:31,230 --> 02:54:34,830 Massachusetts. And the conspiracy therapy group session 2942 02:54:34,830 --> 02:54:37,650 kicks off at five o'clock at roundtable pizza in Ripon, 2943 02:54:37,650 --> 02:54:40,920 California. Also on Saturday, Spot the spook Tim's Cajun 2944 02:54:40,920 --> 02:54:43,800 kitchen, Huntsville, Alabama that'll be at five on Saturday. 2945 02:54:43,980 --> 02:54:47,340 And on the next show day Sunday, Charlotte's first annual golfing 2946 02:54:47,340 --> 02:54:51,840 meet up 9am Is your tee time and that'll be in Charlotte, North 2947 02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:55,890 Charlotte, North Carolina. And there will be there'll be at the 2948 02:54:56,340 --> 02:54:58,920 tradition golf club and then they'll move to the flying 2949 02:54:58,920 --> 02:55:02,880 saucer dropped in torium and also on Sunday the 33rd annual 2950 02:55:02,880 --> 02:55:05,880 net for humanity meet up at ducks or ducks worth grill and 2951 02:55:05,880 --> 02:55:09,420 Taphouse at re farms in Charlotte, North Carolina. And 2952 02:55:09,420 --> 02:55:12,780 finally the tribal September summer rearview mirror meetup. 2953 02:55:13,050 --> 02:55:16,860 Really guys, blind owl brewery Indianapolis, Indiana. These are 2954 02:55:16,860 --> 02:55:19,500 just some of the many no agenda meetups that are on the 2955 02:55:19,500 --> 02:55:21,900 calendar. It goes all the way through October if you want to 2956 02:55:21,900 --> 02:55:25,470 take a look at it. Go to no agenda meetups.com Producer 2957 02:55:25,470 --> 02:55:30,600 organized free for everybody and always guaranteed a party 2958 02:55:30,690 --> 02:55:33,390 connection is protection. No agenda meetups.com 2959 02:55:37,980 --> 02:55:51,120 Unknown: The Dyson days you won't be triggered. You will say 2960 02:55:52,800 --> 02:55:53,340 is like 2961 02:55:54,870 --> 02:55:57,540 Adam Curry: well, I guess we're both light on the ISOs today one 2962 02:55:57,540 --> 02:56:01,110 each one each. Oh yeah. 2963 02:56:01,560 --> 02:56:02,790 John C Dvorak: I'll play Okay. Well, 2964 02:56:02,820 --> 02:56:05,070 Adam Curry: I'll play yours first. Here we go. Have a great 2965 02:56:05,070 --> 02:56:09,990 day. What even was that? Have a great day. Have a great day 2966 02:56:10,020 --> 02:56:14,430 gaming? hanggang not a mine wins. Science is awesome. That 2967 02:56:14,430 --> 02:56:14,970 wins. 2968 02:56:15,150 --> 02:56:18,480 John C Dvorak: They both suck. Continuous stinks. Mine sucks a 2969 02:56:18,480 --> 02:56:21,240 little less than having seen we should play are we evergreen or 2970 02:56:21,240 --> 02:56:24,210 something? That thing is no good. An evergreen 2971 02:56:24,210 --> 02:56:26,430 Adam Curry: Who has ever heard of an ISO evergreen? 2972 02:56:28,530 --> 02:56:30,630 Unknown: Hmm, Nailed it. Nailed it. 2973 02:56:30,690 --> 02:56:31,710 How about that? No, I 2974 02:56:31,710 --> 02:56:33,180 John C Dvorak: don't want to play that again. We just played 2975 02:56:33,180 --> 02:56:33,960 it. Okay, well, let 2976 02:56:33,960 --> 02:56:36,480 Adam Curry: me go to the real evergreens. All right. Let's go 2977 02:56:36,480 --> 02:56:41,250 here. What do we have? Nope, nope. No, no, no, no. Oh, here's 2978 02:56:41,250 --> 02:56:48,450 one for you. Yes, my fat. No. Okay, so we have a winner 2979 02:56:51,930 --> 02:56:54,720 John C Dvorak: Wow. Needle before we wait, before we go to 2980 02:56:54,720 --> 02:56:57,660 tips. I gotta read a note that just came in from a woman 2981 02:56:58,980 --> 02:57:01,380 talking about her neighborhood library. So who do you give 2982 02:57:01,410 --> 02:57:05,640 candidate a bad time on a read? This is not good. Okay. Hello, 2983 02:57:05,640 --> 02:57:09,870 our neighborhood librarian Grandview view Missouri removed 2984 02:57:09,870 --> 02:57:13,260 everything published before nine 2005. 2985 02:57:13,380 --> 02:57:15,960 Adam Curry: Through what was what happened in 2008. 2986 02:57:17,100 --> 02:57:20,880 John C Dvorak: A few years ago, they quote unquote, donated it 2987 02:57:20,880 --> 02:57:26,310 to Amazon. Wow, I was so upset. I asked the librarian if there'd 2988 02:57:26,310 --> 02:57:29,400 be any classics left. She said Yeah, but only if it was an 2989 02:57:29,400 --> 02:57:34,830 edition published after 2005. When she goes home with a second 2990 02:57:34,830 --> 02:57:41,340 note. She gave me an example of not needing old editions of 2991 02:57:41,340 --> 02:57:44,700 textbooks. For example, I thought the library should be a 2992 02:57:44,700 --> 02:57:47,760 place where you could compare textbook changes throughout the 2993 02:57:47,760 --> 02:57:52,050 years. So many books we loved were gone. Great show today, 2994 02:57:52,050 --> 02:57:52,740 Crystal. 2995 02:57:52,950 --> 02:57:54,960 Adam Curry: Thank you, Crystal. I'm concerned. You know, we're 2996 02:57:54,960 --> 02:57:57,570 Cavalier. And we're kind of laughing about all this. I know 2997 02:57:57,570 --> 02:58:02,400 it. But yes, this is a real problem. And the taking what is 2998 02:58:02,400 --> 02:58:06,720 going on? Is Hitler coming back? What's going on? Taking books 2999 02:58:06,720 --> 02:58:11,220 out of the library, but before 2008? I need to know from any 3000 02:58:11,220 --> 02:58:16,920 Canada, Canadian librarian, anyone who knows why 2008? What 3001 02:58:16,920 --> 02:58:18,690 is the deal with that date? 3002 02:58:19,080 --> 02:58:20,580 John C Dvorak: And yeah, especially the candidate with 3003 02:58:20,580 --> 02:58:25,560 the 2005 is another date. Again, these are this is like 21st 3004 02:58:25,560 --> 02:58:28,470 century did you think the library the idea of a library is 3005 02:58:28,470 --> 02:58:31,800 to have stuff that you could go there that you normally can't 3006 02:58:31,800 --> 02:58:35,550 just get? Because it's new? If it's new, you just buy it from 3007 02:58:35,550 --> 02:58:36,270 Amazon? 3008 02:58:36,300 --> 02:58:39,180 Adam Curry: Yeah. I mean, it's not like we're talking about a 3009 02:58:39,180 --> 02:58:41,760 school library. This is just library. Yeah, this 3010 02:58:41,760 --> 02:58:43,770 John C Dvorak: is a real library. It's an 3011 02:58:43,770 --> 02:58:46,950 Adam Curry: actual library. I need to rely, 3012 02:58:47,070 --> 02:58:49,860 John C Dvorak: I think people should do people should get get 3013 02:58:49,860 --> 02:58:53,040 out of the house, and check their local library and ask 3014 02:58:53,040 --> 02:58:56,880 around about these these, these old books. I know. Some 3015 02:58:56,880 --> 02:59:00,540 libraries like my local library and University California 3016 02:59:00,540 --> 02:59:03,960 Library. When you go into the main areas, there'd be a big 3017 02:59:03,960 --> 02:59:06,420 pile of books that they're selling, they'll sell you books 3018 02:59:06,420 --> 02:59:11,550 for 50 cents or $1 of books are taken off the shelves. But in 3019 02:59:11,550 --> 02:59:14,040 the case of like the University of California, for example, 3020 02:59:14,040 --> 02:59:16,980 those books have all been scanned. They're all online. 3021 02:59:17,850 --> 02:59:21,810 Adam Curry: I have never boots on the ground report that is 3022 02:59:21,810 --> 02:59:26,730 troubling from Massachusetts. In the morning boys quick update 3023 02:59:26,730 --> 02:59:30,900 from the horrible state of Texas UCITS. My cousin is set to get 3024 02:59:30,900 --> 02:59:34,530 married over Columbus Day weekend. The groom's family is 3025 02:59:34,530 --> 02:59:37,470 from out of town and they rented two floors of a hotel so they 3026 02:59:37,470 --> 02:59:41,400 could all be together for the weekend. Governor Healy just 3027 02:59:41,430 --> 02:59:46,800 seized the hotel to house migrants. So they've lost their 3028 02:59:46,800 --> 02:59:49,920 reservations. There's nowhere else to say on top of it. All 3029 02:59:49,920 --> 02:59:52,410 the hotels that are housing migrants are having fires, 3030 02:59:52,440 --> 02:59:58,020 assaults, etc. It's a nightmare. Thank you for your courage, 3031 02:59:58,020 --> 02:59:58,620 Alex. 3032 02:59:59,010 --> 03:00:01,500 John C Dvorak: Tonight I think, 3033 03:00:02,340 --> 03:00:03,990 Unknown: man, that sucks. 3034 03:00:04,020 --> 03:00:07,980 Adam Curry: I mean, it's an outrage these this is 3035 03:00:08,279 --> 03:00:11,699 John C Dvorak: reading and they that is an outrage 3036 03:00:11,940 --> 03:00:14,520 Adam Curry: update from one of our many mail carriers as we've 3037 03:00:14,520 --> 03:00:16,710 learned throughout the years mail carriers who work for the 3038 03:00:16,710 --> 03:00:20,790 USPS. They love listening to podcasts, because that's what 3039 03:00:20,790 --> 03:00:24,600 you do when you're pushing around and delivering mail. Then 3040 03:00:24,600 --> 03:00:29,490 we know the main problems with their new fangled systems for 3041 03:00:29,790 --> 03:00:34,950 for pay last any end and this mail carrier sent me a copy of 3042 03:00:35,550 --> 03:00:40,200 his pay stub that says $0 last pay period 50% of carriers 3043 03:00:40,200 --> 03:00:43,470 reported not being paid correctly. Many had problems 3044 03:00:43,470 --> 03:00:47,010 with management's quick fix. money orders weren't being 3045 03:00:47,010 --> 03:00:49,680 recognized by banks and had delays or the wrong number of 3046 03:00:49,680 --> 03:00:53,700 values inputted, banks thought they were fake. this pay period 3047 03:00:53,700 --> 03:00:56,430 there were at least 15% reporting that this check is 3048 03:00:56,430 --> 03:01:00,210 missing. It goes back to my email about the union being mad 3049 03:01:00,210 --> 03:01:03,240 that the carrier's wanted to do a new union. Yet every day on 3050 03:01:03,240 --> 03:01:07,110 the scanners we use the USPS brags of record revenue profit. 3051 03:01:07,260 --> 03:01:09,810 And there's a non government strike clause which would send 3052 03:01:09,810 --> 03:01:14,580 employees to jail if they strike over being paid $0. But of 3053 03:01:14,580 --> 03:01:16,830 course late fees rack up for mortgage and credit cards, and 3054 03:01:16,830 --> 03:01:20,550 no one cares about our our mail carriers are in trouble. 3055 03:01:22,230 --> 03:01:24,660 John C Dvorak: They're trying to get rid of the United Postal 3056 03:01:24,660 --> 03:01:29,070 Service, the Zack Boehner the country that is in the 3057 03:01:29,070 --> 03:01:32,190 Constitution, one of the few things that is actually required 3058 03:01:32,520 --> 03:01:35,850 to be in existence, as opposed to the Department of Education, 3059 03:01:35,850 --> 03:01:40,590 as you mentioned earlier. And in fact, I do have some Vivec going 3060 03:01:40,590 --> 03:01:44,220 off the rails clips about hidden wanting to get rid of a bunch of 3061 03:01:44,220 --> 03:01:50,010 employees. And this is the most ludicrous commentary this night. 3062 03:01:50,010 --> 03:01:54,630 I mean, it's maybe you can get a vote or two. But this is a pipe 3063 03:01:54,630 --> 03:01:59,040 dream. But you have to listen to these VEC Ramaswamy clips. 3064 03:01:59,100 --> 03:02:02,010 Unknown: Republican presidential candidate Vivec Ramaswamy is 3065 03:02:02,010 --> 03:02:05,550 laying out his plan to cut the federal government and the loss 3066 03:02:05,550 --> 03:02:08,580 to back him up. He says hit Start by cutting federal 3067 03:02:08,580 --> 03:02:13,920 employees by 75% and shutting down several agencies. 3068 03:02:17,280 --> 03:02:20,460 Adam Curry: Wow. All right. Good. Hey, I'm all in on Bovec 3069 03:02:20,460 --> 03:02:26,640 now All right, make that happen. 5%. That's a that's a 3070 03:02:26,730 --> 03:02:29,010 John C Dvorak: really every one of these bullshit artists they 3071 03:02:29,010 --> 03:02:32,940 come in. They promised this that they don't cut it one person, 3072 03:02:32,970 --> 03:02:36,390 you can take that to the bank. Yeah, yeah, let's play that part 3073 03:02:36,390 --> 03:02:36,690 to 3074 03:02:36,720 --> 03:02:40,950 Unknown: people who we elect to run the government ought to be 3075 03:02:40,950 --> 03:02:45,510 the ones who actually run the government. 3076 03:02:45,539 --> 03:02:49,469 Speaking at the America First policy institute on Wednesday, 3077 03:02:49,559 --> 03:02:52,889 Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said 3078 03:02:52,889 --> 03:02:56,519 the balance of power in America has changed over the years 3079 03:02:56,550 --> 03:03:00,840 three letter government agencies that wield the most political 3080 03:03:00,840 --> 03:03:04,500 power in the federal government, despite having the least 3081 03:03:04,500 --> 03:03:08,850 political accountability through unelected bureaucrats who have 3082 03:03:08,850 --> 03:03:12,000 no backstop of actually being accountable to the public. 3083 03:03:12,210 --> 03:03:15,510 And he laid forth his plans to restore the constitutional 3084 03:03:15,510 --> 03:03:19,800 republic taking aim at the size of the federal workforce as well 3085 03:03:19,800 --> 03:03:22,590 as certain government agencies. First, it will be 3086 03:03:22,590 --> 03:03:27,780 a plan that reduces the size of the Federal Employee headcount 3087 03:03:28,020 --> 03:03:31,620 by over 75%. If I'm the next President, by the end of my 3088 03:03:31,620 --> 03:03:36,630 first term, 50% of which is implementable by the end of year 3089 03:03:36,630 --> 03:03:37,080 one, 3090 03:03:37,110 --> 03:03:39,840 some would argue that the President doesn't have that 3091 03:03:39,840 --> 03:03:43,830 power. But Ramaswamy said, that's only a myth. And he read 3092 03:03:43,830 --> 03:03:48,240 from the 1977 Reorganization Act, which says the President 3093 03:03:48,240 --> 03:03:50,880 does indeed have that authority to reduce the 3094 03:03:50,880 --> 03:03:53,610 number of agencies by consolidating those having 3095 03:03:53,610 --> 03:04:01,380 similar functions under a single head and to abolish. That's not 3096 03:04:01,380 --> 03:04:05,700 my word. That is a word in the statute. To abolish such 3097 03:04:05,730 --> 03:04:07,830 agencies or functions thereof. 3098 03:04:07,980 --> 03:04:12,180 Ramaswamy said he'd start with the FBI and he cited information 3099 03:04:12,210 --> 03:04:15,210 about the bureau from the Pulitzer Prize winning book G 3100 03:04:15,210 --> 03:04:15,540 Man 3101 03:04:15,570 --> 03:04:18,630 the same one that used illegally collected tapes to threat 3102 03:04:18,630 --> 03:04:21,060 threaten Martin Luther King Jr. into committing suicide they 3103 03:04:21,060 --> 03:04:24,180 tried to do is now being used to target political opponents of a 3104 03:04:24,180 --> 03:04:28,560 different persuasion. Wow. 3105 03:04:29,520 --> 03:04:32,100 John C Dvorak: I know he's picked up the cadence of of a 3106 03:04:32,100 --> 03:04:33,090 southern preacher. 3107 03:04:33,120 --> 03:04:34,200 Adam Curry: Yes. 3108 03:04:34,710 --> 03:04:36,060 John C Dvorak: Have you noticed this? Yes. 3109 03:04:36,600 --> 03:04:38,400 Adam Curry: Good catch. Agree got 3110 03:04:38,400 --> 03:04:40,830 John C Dvorak: that that the very precise again, I use the 3111 03:04:40,830 --> 03:04:44,970 word precise pronunciation of certain words, ending with hard 3112 03:04:44,970 --> 03:04:51,030 sounds. And it just sounds like a preacher and he's getting it. 3113 03:04:51,060 --> 03:04:54,120 He's sounding more like a preacher than he's ever sounded 3114 03:04:54,120 --> 03:04:57,330 before. Especially in these clips. I think there's one left. 3115 03:04:57,660 --> 03:04:58,410 Yes, there is. 3116 03:04:58,470 --> 03:05:00,840 Unknown: And he explained what shutting down On the Bureau, 3117 03:05:00,840 --> 03:05:04,020 which has about 35,000 employees would look like 3118 03:05:04,050 --> 03:05:06,060 they're gonna go home when we shut it down and find honest 3119 03:05:06,060 --> 03:05:10,410 work in the private sector. But 15,000 of those employees are 3120 03:05:10,410 --> 03:05:13,620 going to be reorganized into the US Marshals into the Financial 3121 03:05:13,620 --> 03:05:17,310 Crimes Enforcement Network at the US Treasury into other parts 3122 03:05:17,310 --> 03:05:20,460 of the DEA that are taken on the drug enforcement that drug 3123 03:05:20,460 --> 03:05:22,410 enforcement problems that we have in this country. 3124 03:05:22,440 --> 03:05:25,710 He also said he had shut down the Department of Education. 3125 03:05:25,740 --> 03:05:30,180 This is an agency that spends approximately an $80 billion 3126 03:05:30,660 --> 03:05:34,890 budget per year telling local schools that they can't get 3127 03:05:34,890 --> 03:05:39,570 those federal funds unless they adopt toxic racial and gender 3128 03:05:39,600 --> 03:05:40,440 ideologies. 3129 03:05:40,470 --> 03:05:44,010 Some of the other departments Ramaswamy said he had shut down 3130 03:05:44,070 --> 03:05:47,490 or the ATF and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission 3131 03:05:51,600 --> 03:05:54,930 Adam Curry: ah, well at least he spicing things up. Well, I 3132 03:05:54,930 --> 03:05:57,060 John C Dvorak: swinging for the fences with this one. 3133 03:05:57,420 --> 03:05:59,940 Adam Curry: What does he remind him? What does he remind? He 3134 03:05:59,940 --> 03:06:04,500 kind of reminds me in a way he reminds me of somebody I can't 3135 03:06:04,500 --> 03:06:05,340 quite figure it out. He 3136 03:06:05,340 --> 03:06:07,350 John C Dvorak: reminds me of a number a number of southern 3137 03:06:07,350 --> 03:06:09,090 preachers. Well, yeah, there's that 3138 03:06:09,150 --> 03:06:13,110 Adam Curry: there's that that you know, Fredericksburg is 3139 03:06:13,110 --> 03:06:17,160 actually kind of interesting. They have we have a tax 3140 03:06:17,160 --> 03:06:20,220 increase. It's being voted on Tuesday a man people are gonna 3141 03:06:20,220 --> 03:06:22,380 go they're gonna go to the council meeting and 3142 03:06:23,520 --> 03:06:25,020 John C Dvorak: because the property tax 3143 03:06:25,050 --> 03:06:30,750 Adam Curry: Yeah, and it's it's tax. It's, well, you know, it's 3144 03:06:31,560 --> 03:06:37,020 property tax. It's supposed to be inflation plus increase in 3145 03:06:37,020 --> 03:06:41,670 population is way above that. And people are because I think 3146 03:06:41,670 --> 03:06:45,390 the main a big revenue source for people in Fredericksburg is 3147 03:06:46,080 --> 03:06:50,640 Bnbs. So they have a second home. And you know, they're 3148 03:06:50,640 --> 03:06:53,880 being priced out of it, of being able to provide that yes, 3149 03:06:53,880 --> 03:06:57,210 John C Dvorak: the desert that's not just Fredericksburg, believe 3150 03:06:57,210 --> 03:06:57,750 me. No, 3151 03:06:57,750 --> 03:07:01,050 Adam Curry: no, it's not but I live here. And it's fun to watch 3152 03:07:01,050 --> 03:07:03,780 because people are taking it to their city council and that's 3153 03:07:03,810 --> 03:07:05,760 that's what has to happen everywhere. You got to you got 3154 03:07:05,760 --> 03:07:10,410 to do local stuff. You know, instead of going on x and 3155 03:07:10,410 --> 03:07:17,340 complaining, complaining on X so fair, I don't like it is not 3156 03:07:17,340 --> 03:07:22,860 good. All right. Well, that was good. I don't I actually am out 3157 03:07:22,860 --> 03:07:25,020 of clips. I don't I mean, anything that's worthwhile 3158 03:07:25,020 --> 03:07:26,130 unless you got something that we 3159 03:07:26,130 --> 03:07:28,260 John C Dvorak: can like, get the clips about the White House 3160 03:07:28,260 --> 03:07:31,650 pushing back on the impeachment. We can talk about it all. Yeah, 3161 03:07:31,650 --> 03:07:36,000 I do have one clip. That's good. Okay. One just because this is a 3162 03:07:36,000 --> 03:07:41,220 galling clip. It turns out that Californians don't really want 3163 03:07:41,220 --> 03:07:46,440 to pay reparations to every black ex ajosh. You know, one 3164 03:07:46,440 --> 03:07:50,490 time slave. No, of course, California wasn't even a slave 3165 03:07:50,490 --> 03:07:54,600 state. But let's play the reparations clip. 3166 03:07:54,630 --> 03:07:56,820 Adam Curry: They all they went all in when it was you know, 3167 03:07:56,820 --> 03:07:59,430 virtue signaling. But now it's like, hey, let's have a vote. 3168 03:08:00,030 --> 03:08:03,150 Unknown: Most Californians are against cash reparations for 3169 03:08:03,150 --> 03:08:06,510 residents who are descended from slaves. A recent poll reveals 3170 03:08:06,510 --> 03:08:09,810 that conservatives are pretty united in the opposition, while 3171 03:08:09,810 --> 03:08:13,440 liberals are mixed entities. Aileen Aang has more. 3172 03:08:14,670 --> 03:08:17,460 According to a recent poll by UC Berkeley's Institute of 3173 03:08:17,460 --> 03:08:21,060 governmental studies are IGS. The majority of California 3174 03:08:21,060 --> 03:08:24,420 voters are opposed to cash reparations payments to black 3175 03:08:24,420 --> 03:08:29,280 residents. 59% of voters oppose the state reparations task force 3176 03:08:29,310 --> 03:08:32,820 recommendation to make cash payments to the descendants of 3177 03:08:32,820 --> 03:08:36,540 enslaved blacks currently living in California. Of those who 3178 03:08:36,540 --> 03:08:41,730 oppose 44% are strongly against the idea. Democrats and liberals 3179 03:08:41,730 --> 03:08:45,000 were divided while Republicans and conservatives were nearly 3180 03:08:45,000 --> 03:08:48,870 unanimous in their opposition. However, most voters agree that 3181 03:08:48,870 --> 03:08:52,200 the legacy of slavery is affecting the position of black 3182 03:08:52,200 --> 03:08:56,370 Californians. According to the IGs co-director While many can 3183 03:08:56,370 --> 03:08:59,700 empathize with the plight of black Americans. Not all of 3184 03:08:59,700 --> 03:09:02,880 these feelings will translate into support for policies that 3185 03:09:02,880 --> 03:09:07,110 address long standing racial harms. In 2020. Governor Gavin 3186 03:09:07,110 --> 03:09:10,530 Newsom created the nation's first reparations Task Force to 3187 03:09:10,530 --> 03:09:14,250 calculate the costs of slavery and racism and how to make up 3188 03:09:14,250 --> 03:09:18,450 two black Californians. In July the taskforce proposed over 100 3189 03:09:18,450 --> 03:09:22,740 recommendations and a 1000 page document. It also recommends the 3190 03:09:22,740 --> 03:09:26,400 state pay over 225 billion in reparations 3191 03:09:26,430 --> 03:09:31,230 John C Dvorak: oh that's the problem 3192 03:09:31,260 --> 03:09:34,230 Adam Curry: Oh virtue signaling all this hopefully 3193 03:09:34,230 --> 03:09:35,970 John C Dvorak: Why don't end it why don't the states that you 3194 03:09:35,970 --> 03:09:45,030 actually had slaves? I'm looking at you North Carolina. cough up 3195 03:09:45,030 --> 03:09:48,540 some dough. Why a weaves you stuck with the bill. That ain't 3196 03:09:48,540 --> 03:09:49,860 worried that's not flying. 3197 03:09:49,890 --> 03:09:52,320 Adam Curry: No, no, no, they're gonna start handing out money to 3198 03:09:52,320 --> 03:09:56,340 LGBTQ to spirit. That's the new voting blocks. That's the one go 3199 03:09:57,270 --> 03:09:58,110 24 3200 03:09:58,140 --> 03:10:00,450 John C Dvorak: Hey, what does the Two Spirit for shouldn't get 3201 03:10:00,450 --> 03:10:01,500 two checks to 3202 03:10:01,530 --> 03:10:06,420 Adam Curry: you get not only that they get two votes. Likely 3203 03:10:06,480 --> 03:10:09,990 that now there's something there's something your Two 3204 03:10:09,990 --> 03:10:11,550 Spirit you get to vote twice 3205 03:10:14,040 --> 03:10:16,230 John C Dvorak: as in California they've already been voting 3206 03:10:16,230 --> 03:10:16,740 twice. 3207 03:10:18,660 --> 03:10:21,930 Adam Curry: Yes, we know. DS last with Matty J coming up 3208 03:10:22,170 --> 03:10:25,440 along with Sir TJ the wrath bowl on our end of show mixes great 3209 03:10:25,440 --> 03:10:31,530 job boys. Live next on no agenda stream.com More in the troll 3210 03:10:31,530 --> 03:10:35,490 room of your troll room.io Or a modern podcast app. We've got 3211 03:10:35,490 --> 03:10:40,050 planet rage, Episode 94. Make sure you stay tuned for that. 3212 03:10:40,530 --> 03:10:45,570 And I'd like to say in the morning to all of you. Thank you 3213 03:10:45,570 --> 03:10:48,330 for listening to our deconstruction coming to you 3214 03:10:48,330 --> 03:10:51,150 from the heart of the Texas Hill Country where we're mad about 3215 03:10:51,150 --> 03:10:54,450 our taxes. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 3216 03:10:54,660 --> 03:10:56,640 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where nobody 3217 03:10:56,640 --> 03:10:58,920 cares. I'm John C. Dvorak. Oh, everybody 3218 03:10:58,920 --> 03:11:02,640 Adam Curry: cares. We care about your reparations. That's what we 3219 03:11:02,640 --> 03:11:07,710 care about. Hey, if you'd like to support us, we would like you 3220 03:11:07,710 --> 03:11:13,920 to consider sending some value to us dvorak.org/na We'll talk 3221 03:11:13,920 --> 03:11:17,820 to you on Sunday right here on no agenda till then. Adios MoPhO 3222 03:11:18,330 --> 03:11:19,830 Unknown: a hurry hurry in such 3223 03:11:28,620 --> 03:11:32,880 a big sleazy Tommy do follows a walk genius genius. Conspiracy 3224 03:11:32,880 --> 03:11:36,630 as a kid look God my guy, the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz 3225 03:11:36,630 --> 03:11:39,870 going down the yellow brick road is confer a heart keep stacking. 3226 03:11:40,350 --> 03:11:44,880 Maxwell, get smart. Back in the day I watched Meet the Fockers. 3227 03:11:44,880 --> 03:11:47,880 Now my ears listen to two tick tock there is no more 3228 03:11:47,880 --> 03:11:52,470 wristwatches Apple products. I missed these brands. Casio 3229 03:11:52,590 --> 03:11:55,560 watches losing so much weight these days I gotta make them 3230 03:11:55,560 --> 03:11:59,280 holes on my belt you could say another notch with the fourth 3231 03:11:59,280 --> 03:12:02,250 downs and it's for the best how can people not see at this point 3232 03:12:02,250 --> 03:12:05,400 were eating the cells that are consumed by the toxins in the 3233 03:12:05,400 --> 03:12:09,840 environment. Many people live in non unrealized markets 3234 03:12:09,840 --> 03:12:12,960 manipulated and suppressed especially with precious metals. 3235 03:12:13,230 --> 03:12:17,940 You may see what we allow why I keep saying they hide hidden in 3236 03:12:17,940 --> 03:12:23,160 the shadows gripping power and I mean all day you can go left is 3237 03:12:23,160 --> 03:12:27,030 that good to be in writing the three T's make the whole thing 3238 03:12:27,030 --> 03:12:31,260 work better decentralized podcasting network you can 3239 03:12:31,260 --> 03:12:35,460 monetize don't make the same mistake and waste resources like 3240 03:12:35,460 --> 03:12:39,390 at church podcast 2.0 with many features learn about the Federal 3241 03:12:39,390 --> 03:12:48,810 Reserve on the Jekyll Island created by these creatures he he 3242 03:12:48,810 --> 03:12:52,650 put together how to understand when the monopoly in our policy 3243 03:12:52,650 --> 03:12:55,170 came to be through these eloquent speeches now the 3244 03:12:55,170 --> 03:12:59,670 podcasters spread the message with tremendous reaches 3245 03:12:59,700 --> 03:13:02,790 Adam Curry: there's an uptick in COVID cases notice the language 3246 03:13:02,820 --> 03:13:06,210 Unknown: uptake man a virus goes round the outside round the 3247 03:13:06,210 --> 03:13:10,680 outside round the outside happening again oh no no no 3248 03:13:10,680 --> 03:13:14,340 COVID cases is forced man neighbor goes round the outside 3249 03:13:14,370 --> 03:13:16,590 round the outside round the outside 3250 03:13:17,610 --> 03:13:19,950 Adam Curry: to talk about optics it's not a surgery to obtain 3251 03:13:21,150 --> 03:13:38,970 guess what's BANG BANG BANG COVID BANG BANG BANG here is the 3252 03:13:38,970 --> 03:13:43,200 script I'm taking cases surges in cases who are getting quote 3253 03:13:43,200 --> 03:13:55,980 unquote sick dying of COVID Well let me put a mask on me like 3254 03:13:57,990 --> 03:14:04,890 want to combine vaccinate? 3255 03:14:20,250 --> 03:14:23,310 John C Dvorak: leads back to try to scam demic. 3256 03:14:31,110 --> 03:14:33,900 Adam Curry: tested positive because of course they're doing 3257 03:14:33,900 --> 03:14:36,750 what they're told to do like little drones and they are 3258 03:14:36,750 --> 03:14:41,340 testing maniacally with these at home damask tests. But who knows 3259 03:14:41,550 --> 03:14:46,380 this COVID or flu or RSV, or what used to happen we get the 3260 03:14:46,380 --> 03:14:49,020 back to school cold. Everybody had a 3261 03:14:50,460 --> 03:14:59,970 Unknown: like a scam. She's telling me they charged a scam 3262 03:15:15,299 --> 03:15:15,869 Adam Curry: MoPhO 3263 03:15:15,899 --> 03:15:21,179 Unknown: boruch.org/n A bag