1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,410 Adam Curry: We love you. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak June 2 00:00:04,410 --> 00:00:07,560 18 2023 This is your award winning nation media 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:15,120 assassination episode 1565 This is no agenda. Hotez Smackdown 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,880 and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,030 here in Samaria number six in the morning everybody I'm Adam 6 00:00:21,030 --> 00:00:21,480 curry 7 00:00:21,749 --> 00:00:24,779 John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where we had a 10 8 00:00:24,779 --> 00:00:27,269 cars suffer from Chelsea divorce 9 00:00:31,110 --> 00:00:33,750 Adam Curry: Wow an early morning Zephyr report Who would have 10 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:38,460 expected that that's a fantastic that's a great way to kick off 11 00:00:38,460 --> 00:00:39,000 the show 12 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:43,380 John C Dvorak: it was an eight cars effort with two private 13 00:00:43,380 --> 00:00:47,340 cars in the back and Baja father's days 14 00:00:47,490 --> 00:00:49,320 Adam Curry: father's father's day special 15 00:00:50,820 --> 00:00:54,840 John C Dvorak: and the two cars the back were a like a sleeper 16 00:00:55,230 --> 00:01:02,850 and a observation vistadome car that were so pretty. Cream and 17 00:01:02,850 --> 00:01:07,890 chrome oh it was like you go look at this and compared to the 18 00:01:07,890 --> 00:01:11,100 rest of the train you go what happened to design in this 19 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:14,400 country? Oh my God 20 00:01:17,250 --> 00:01:19,620 Adam Curry: I am so happy for you Happy Father's Day. 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,540 Unknown: Happy Father's Day to you. 22 00:01:21,570 --> 00:01:24,390 Adam Curry: Yeah, did you get did you get Father's Day gifts? 23 00:01:24,420 --> 00:01:26,820 You get to tweet text anything? 24 00:01:27,510 --> 00:01:29,010 Unknown: Yeah, I got it. I got this 25 00:01:31,260 --> 00:01:34,680 Adam Curry: you actually got tweets. Oh yeah. Boy they know 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,250 daddy. Well don't they give the old man this keep busy for 27 00:01:38,250 --> 00:01:38,880 hours. 28 00:01:39,330 --> 00:01:40,500 Unknown: Then they found this 29 00:01:45,390 --> 00:01:46,110 Adam Curry: what is that? 30 00:01:47,940 --> 00:01:48,780 Unknown: Turkey call 31 00:01:50,100 --> 00:01:52,200 Adam Curry: now do you blow on that or is that electronic? 32 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:55,830 John C Dvorak: No you it's a two handed operation you used to you 33 00:01:57,150 --> 00:02:02,010 slam it was your fist you know about that? 34 00:02:02,700 --> 00:02:07,350 Adam Curry: I do now yeah. Oh, excellent. So nice. My 35 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:10,560 John C Dvorak: favorite. Is this the chicken thing? Is this thing 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:18,060 though. The little squawk at the end? It's cartoony? Yes. Good 37 00:02:18,060 --> 00:02:19,470 kids don't do that. No 38 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:29,250 Adam Curry: they do a little bit like that. Okay, all right, 39 00:02:29,250 --> 00:02:31,680 everybody there you go. This is the best podcast in the 40 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:38,940 universe. And now you know why? Man something cool happened last 41 00:02:38,940 --> 00:02:39,360 night. 42 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,750 Unknown: That I pray tell ya. 43 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,840 Adam Curry: So on I think it was was it's Friday. I think Joe 44 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:55,410 Rogan had JFK Jr. on his podcast. And for about the first 45 00:02:55,410 --> 00:03:01,650 two hours, he just railed on vaccines and went into into 46 00:03:01,650 --> 00:03:06,870 depths I'd forgotten we've deconstructed most of this. But 47 00:03:06,870 --> 00:03:10,440 you know how how they really work and and how the schedule is 48 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,750 increased and legality of it. And of course, he knows about 49 00:03:12,750 --> 00:03:15,960 all this because he sued many of these companies. And it was 50 00:03:15,990 --> 00:03:19,080 interesting because Joe started off with a whole like five 51 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,500 minute monologue like a soliloquy about he always 52 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:27,330 thought that, you know, JFK Jr. was an anti Vaxxer a kook a nut 53 00:03:27,330 --> 00:03:32,370 job, tinfoil hat wear and dude until he read his book about 54 00:03:32,370 --> 00:03:37,320 Anthony Fauci. And so this just went on and it was beautiful. On 55 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,990 and on, and on and on. And yeah, he says all kinds of stuff like, 56 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:43,710 you know, we should ban advertisement of farm on 57 00:03:43,710 --> 00:03:47,370 television, and I mean, really stuff that we pretty much would 58 00:03:47,370 --> 00:03:52,740 agree with. And then now Joe never goes on Twitter. I think 59 00:03:52,740 --> 00:03:55,110 he whatever he does, he does Instagram and then whatever he 60 00:03:55,110 --> 00:03:59,280 posts on Instagram, it gets reposted on Twitter, and Hotep 61 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:04,650 Hotez. Now, our friend up there in North Texas. He starts going 62 00:04:04,650 --> 00:04:08,400 off, you know, typical Twitter, like, Oh, look at these look at 63 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,300 these to spreading misinformation about vaccines. 64 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,020 And so Joe pops on the Twitter and says, Hey, Peter Hotez. He's 65 00:04:19,020 --> 00:04:23,040 been on his show to hotel, hotel, hotels, Hotez. He says, I 66 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,180 will donate $100,000 to the charity of your choice. If you 67 00:04:27,180 --> 00:04:33,300 come in and debate, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. had no time limit. 68 00:04:33,810 --> 00:04:38,220 And all hotels will do her own hemming and hawing. And then now 69 00:04:38,220 --> 00:04:40,800 people are you know, there's people throwing 100 grand on top 70 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,630 of that, and it's like $800,000 hotels, it's like, well, you 71 00:04:45,630 --> 00:04:48,510 know, I'll come on I'll talk to you but you can talk to 72 00:04:48,510 --> 00:04:52,500 misinformation guy. He won't do it. 73 00:04:52,770 --> 00:04:57,630 John C Dvorak: Nobody will debate makalah they won't bait 74 00:04:57,660 --> 00:05:02,580 debate Malone. They won't debate anybody, this whole group of 75 00:05:02,580 --> 00:05:06,270 people and Hotep is one of the top of the group OPERS. Yeah, 76 00:05:06,450 --> 00:05:11,100 they will not talk about it. They have their spiel. And they 77 00:05:11,100 --> 00:05:14,790 don't want to talk about it. That's it. No, no debate. It's 78 00:05:14,790 --> 00:05:16,200 like sciences. And 79 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:19,470 Adam Curry: it's like, checkmate. It's really 80 00:05:19,470 --> 00:05:24,720 fantastic. Now, I doubt that the M five M will do anything with 81 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,890 this, because we, we don't let anybody know about this. But 82 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:34,740 it's pretty, it's pretty vital right now. So very, very 83 00:05:34,740 --> 00:05:38,640 interesting. situation. I liked it a lot. I thought it was very 84 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:51,300 funny. And I And I'll say this about that. RFK RFK saying, I 85 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:54,480 think we should ban pharma advertising. Actually, I have 86 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,370 the clip, well listen to the clip. And I'll say, I'll say 87 00:05:56,370 --> 00:05:57,030 this about that, 88 00:05:57,060 --> 00:06:02,280 Unknown: oh, you know, ambitions have completely subsumed the 89 00:06:02,310 --> 00:06:07,290 regulatory function of those agencies. And that has, and, you 90 00:06:07,290 --> 00:06:09,630 know, one of the things that we need to do, too, is the 91 00:06:09,630 --> 00:06:13,290 pharmaceutical advertising on television, there's only two 92 00:06:13,470 --> 00:06:17,280 countries in the world that allow it on his New Zealand, the 93 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:20,910 other is our country, everybody who is knowledgeable is against 94 00:06:20,910 --> 00:06:26,670 it. It not only has compromised, you know, has compromised public 95 00:06:26,670 --> 00:06:31,140 health, we now we take largely because of that advertising, we 96 00:06:31,140 --> 00:06:34,170 take three or four times the amount of drugs as Europeans 97 00:06:34,170 --> 00:06:37,500 take. And drugs are the number three killer in our country, 98 00:06:37,530 --> 00:06:41,250 pharmaceutical drugs, the number three killer after cancer and 99 00:06:41,250 --> 00:06:44,640 heart attacks. They're not making us healthier, we have we 100 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,600 spend more on health care, or point 3 trillion than any 101 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,930 country in the world. And we have the worst health impacts. 102 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:57,000 And we're behind like Mongolia, Costa Rica, Cuba, in terms of 103 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,930 our health outcomes, all of these drugs, the pharmaceutical 104 00:07:00,930 --> 00:07:04,770 industry is not making us safer, safer, it's not making us 105 00:07:04,770 --> 00:07:09,180 healthier. And you know, we changed the rule in 1990 97. 106 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:14,490 Prior to 1997, like cigarettes and liquor, you couldn't 107 00:07:14,490 --> 00:07:20,340 advertise on TV, we changed those rules. And FDA allowed the 108 00:07:20,340 --> 00:07:24,690 pharmaceutical companies to advertise and they not only now 109 00:07:24,690 --> 00:07:27,480 have a platform from which they can tell everybody you're safe. 110 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,850 You need this, you need that. But also, they are able to 111 00:07:32,850 --> 00:07:37,950 dictate content on television, so they can dictate content on 112 00:07:37,950 --> 00:07:39,300 the you know, on the local and 113 00:07:39,300 --> 00:07:44,010 Adam Curry: on YouTube. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Not much new here 114 00:07:44,010 --> 00:07:48,240 for for the no agenda listener, obviously. But as it comes to, 115 00:07:48,420 --> 00:07:51,600 you know, we always vote independent. We don't we don't 116 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,970 vote for any of the parties. We can't it's I mean, I can't even 117 00:07:53,970 --> 00:07:56,700 bring myself to do it and too bad. He's running as a Democrat. 118 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,370 Because as a single issue, voter, I guess, if I were one of 119 00:08:02,370 --> 00:08:06,780 those, it would so it would help so much. It relates to 120 00:08:06,780 --> 00:08:12,660 everything and relates to trans Maoism. It relates to children 121 00:08:12,660 --> 00:08:17,670 being morons. It relates to education, it relates to 122 00:08:17,850 --> 00:08:21,990 probably to mass murder, you know, children going nuts with 123 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:26,640 guns, it relates to adults being idiots it relates relates to so 124 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,050 much, just that one move, you said it yourself would probably 125 00:08:31,590 --> 00:08:35,610 solve some things in America. You know, forget all the all the 126 00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:38,010 stuff that all the other candidates say this might 127 00:08:38,010 --> 00:08:42,840 actually affect something. And I guess somewhere he said he would 128 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:45,420 issue an executive order to do it if he was president. I don't 129 00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:48,600 know if he can. I don't know if he can do that. I believe he'd 130 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,180 be sued immediately. I mean, that would be freedom of speech, 131 00:08:51,180 --> 00:08:55,590 all kinds of First Amendment issues, I'm sure. But at least 132 00:08:55,620 --> 00:08:59,220 someone's bringing attention to it. Which is kind of cool. 133 00:08:59,790 --> 00:09:01,050 Unknown: Yeah. Besides us. 134 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,910 Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, yeah, but it's finally 135 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,820 John C Dvorak: finally the media is not going to do it because 136 00:09:08,820 --> 00:09:11,970 it's too much money. They're getting too much cash. Yeah, 137 00:09:12,090 --> 00:09:15,570 it's just corrupted the whole system. That's the real issue. 138 00:09:15,570 --> 00:09:16,050 zactly 139 00:09:16,290 --> 00:09:19,350 Adam Curry: Well, and that's another thing that came out this 140 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:24,120 morning. shockwave through TV Land. This is the Netherlands 141 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,780 now the Netherlands is interesting. Because very 142 00:09:27,780 --> 00:09:31,620 western very liberal country. They have an interesting media 143 00:09:31,620 --> 00:09:36,000 mix of state controlled propaganda, but also commercial 144 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:41,100 television. And this was the the big story this morning headlines 145 00:09:41,250 --> 00:09:45,120 from the media analysts as the ratings came out. Everything's 146 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,880 flopping there. For the past three days, the television 147 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,630 ratings in the Netherlands have never been lower ever before. 148 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,430 less than 13% of the country watched any television at all. 149 00:09:59,790 --> 00:10:07,020 And And then the state channel three had a zero had zero people 150 00:10:07,020 --> 00:10:12,510 watching it yesterday. This something happening here. This 151 00:10:12,510 --> 00:10:16,020 switch is coming and it's happening everywhere. You know 152 00:10:16,020 --> 00:10:18,780 it's happening you know in Australia seeing it NOW. 153 00:10:19,710 --> 00:10:23,130 Headline ABC is quiet revolution behind sackings as viewers 154 00:10:23,130 --> 00:10:26,280 switch off TV tune into tick tock. I'm not saying it's all 155 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,220 good, what's happening, but at least they're moving away from 156 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,290 the mainstream, which is just dribble and poison, and just 157 00:10:34,290 --> 00:10:38,820 nothing good. And that's probably why, you know, the 158 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:43,320 politicians are so freaked out about exactly about tick tock 159 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,400 and other places, then Elon Musk with his always free speech. 160 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:51,660 Because they don't they don't control the message their 161 00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:55,380 messaging system is breaking. It really is. 162 00:10:58,620 --> 00:11:01,530 John C Dvorak: Well, still better than any other one 163 00:11:01,530 --> 00:11:02,250 source. 164 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Adam Curry: What do you mean? 165 00:11:05,370 --> 00:11:10,140 John C Dvorak: I will? Well, there's no I mean, there. If you 166 00:11:10,140 --> 00:11:13,260 take all the podcasts and you do all his you know, it's very 167 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,890 distributed. Yeah. And as opposed to one network TV show 168 00:11:16,890 --> 00:11:18,630 that can bring in 30 million people. 169 00:11:18,870 --> 00:11:21,780 Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, that's the that's the show. 170 00:11:21,780 --> 00:11:28,380 John C Dvorak: I watched I was watching. Oh, a n. Yes. What 171 00:11:28,380 --> 00:11:33,750 American Woman Yeah. And the one woman is the kind of over made 172 00:11:33,750 --> 00:11:36,540 up, pretty girl. Who's on? 173 00:11:37,110 --> 00:11:39,720 Adam Curry: That's everyone on that channel. Which one is 174 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:39,900 which? 175 00:11:40,380 --> 00:11:43,710 John C Dvorak: One in particular? She had the America 176 00:11:43,710 --> 00:11:46,020 shaman on for his first interview. 177 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:48,900 Adam Curry: Oh, did you got any clips? 178 00:11:49,470 --> 00:11:51,390 John C Dvorak: No, I just was on this morning. I was watching you 179 00:11:51,390 --> 00:11:57,360 just before the show. Oh, and the guy is a star. 180 00:11:59,070 --> 00:12:02,280 Adam Curry: He's let me let me guess he really has a great rap. 181 00:12:03,780 --> 00:12:06,300 John C Dvorak: Besides having a sounds a little like, like a 182 00:12:06,300 --> 00:12:13,020 surfer guru. He's got a terrific rap. A tremendous personality. 183 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:16,110 Adam Curry: Yeah, was he? What did he look like? Did he have 184 00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:17,490 the hat on the helmet? 185 00:12:18,330 --> 00:12:23,400 John C Dvorak: No. Now he's got a bald head. Oh, and a Taliban 186 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,840 beard. Jacob Chancellor. Yeah, Chancellor. He's got a bald 187 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,460 head. He was wearing a suit and a bald head in it and a Taliban 188 00:12:32,460 --> 00:12:35,280 beard. Night he's a charmer Oh, and 189 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,560 Adam Curry: what was the main what was what was the main 190 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:38,790 message is this story 191 00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:40,740 John C Dvorak: a story by getting thrown in the slammer 192 00:12:40,740 --> 00:12:45,000 the racist black a guards that were trying to you know, beat 193 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,430 him up every chance they could because he was the supposedly 194 00:12:47,430 --> 00:12:51,990 white supremacist. He just had funny stories to tell and he but 195 00:12:51,990 --> 00:12:56,010 he was I there's one clip I didn't have to go back and get 196 00:12:56,010 --> 00:12:59,700 because it was so funny. She asked him a bunch of government 197 00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:03,510 questions and he his response to her was just priceless because 198 00:13:03,510 --> 00:13:08,010 he was questions he couldn't answer because there was there 199 00:13:08,010 --> 00:13:12,360 was a gag order on this one line of questioning it seems he 200 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,160 couldn't say that either. But he did like this triple take and 201 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,460 then he and he just said something that he says no 202 00:13:20,460 --> 00:13:28,200 comment in a very funny way. And good good. He is really good he 203 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,270 said he's he pays starting a website a podcast Get over 204 00:13:33,330 --> 00:13:37,140 yourself perfect but what he needs is a Hollywood agent. 205 00:13:37,380 --> 00:13:40,860 Adam Curry: If see I disagree this is no longer necessary. 206 00:13:41,010 --> 00:13:44,460 Rogan will probably pick him up and it truly podcasts are the 207 00:13:44,460 --> 00:13:50,220 last bastion of free speech and people are selecting their own 208 00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:51,120 little you know whatever they 209 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,730 John C Dvorak: understand your position there's though you say 210 00:13:53,730 --> 00:13:56,880 it over and over again. But he if he had an agent he would 211 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,170 really blossom 212 00:13:59,010 --> 00:14:01,770 Adam Curry: i disagree and the reason I know you do but I'm 213 00:14:01,890 --> 00:14:04,350 just telling you what I think I know but I'm but I'm trying to 214 00:14:04,350 --> 00:14:07,560 lead into a clip but you keep interrupting me when I disagree. 215 00:14:08,610 --> 00:14:09,690 Unknown: Doing it right yeah. 216 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,880 Adam Curry: Wow. Should I do that and to signal to you that I 217 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,630 have a clip 218 00:14:14,670 --> 00:14:18,510 John C Dvorak: Oh, I don't know. If you're gonna be if it begins 219 00:14:18,510 --> 00:14:21,120 with a disagreement that creates an argument. Okay, how about 220 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,170 that? It's gonna be tough. 221 00:14:22,170 --> 00:14:24,780 Adam Curry: Let's try it again. Oh, I agree with your position 222 00:14:24,780 --> 00:14:27,390 from your standpoint. But let me play a clip Spotify 223 00:14:27,390 --> 00:14:29,610 Unknown: is moving on from Prince Harry and Duchess Megan 224 00:14:29,610 --> 00:14:32,490 to streaming services not renewing their podcast. Both 225 00:14:32,490 --> 00:14:35,580 sides say they've mutually agreed to part ways ending their 226 00:14:35,580 --> 00:14:40,140 estimated $25 million deal. The podcast ran for only 12 episodes 227 00:14:40,140 --> 00:14:41,430 beginning last summer. 228 00:14:41,490 --> 00:14:45,270 Adam Curry: The whole Spotify thing is falling apart. They 229 00:14:45,270 --> 00:14:47,940 invested a billion dollars. They've now fired almost 230 00:14:47,940 --> 00:14:51,570 everybody they Aqua hired. They're getting ready to read 231 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:56,040 every single big contract. All of the Obamas are gone. 232 00:14:56,070 --> 00:14:59,070 Everyone's gone. The only one left is Joe then I don't know 233 00:14:59,070 --> 00:15:03,330 what he Joe probably had a smart deal. The whole thing didn't 234 00:15:03,330 --> 00:15:06,150 work. The Influencers don't work. The celebrities don't 235 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:08,130 work. No one cares anymore. 236 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,550 John C Dvorak: You argue with me you're saying podcast is the 237 00:15:11,550 --> 00:15:14,730 answer. And that's a podcasting operation. Oh, 238 00:15:14,730 --> 00:15:17,940 Adam Curry: under no, those were exclusives. It was not a 239 00:15:17,940 --> 00:15:21,990 podcasting operation. Their exclusive you couldn't get them 240 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:25,380 anywhere you get your podcasts. You see. You couldn't get the 241 00:15:25,380 --> 00:15:28,230 Obamas on any podcast app. You couldn't get Meghan Markel. You 242 00:15:28,230 --> 00:15:33,810 had to go to Spotify. That's the point. The Hollywood system 243 00:15:33,810 --> 00:15:40,260 broke. No one cares. No one cares. They care about us. I 244 00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:42,420 think kind of a little bit. Some people 245 00:15:42,540 --> 00:15:45,240 John C Dvorak: a few was saying that no one cares. 246 00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:48,000 Adam Curry: Because watching that they're not interested. 247 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,440 John C Dvorak: Here's what I think. No, it was crappy model. 248 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,340 It was yes. Stupid. Yes. It violated the principles of 249 00:15:56,340 --> 00:15:57,810 podcasting. Yes, it's 250 00:15:57,810 --> 00:15:59,790 Unknown: Hollywood model you and me on now. 251 00:15:59,790 --> 00:16:01,920 Adam Curry: It's a Hollywood model. That's my point. 252 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,530 John C Dvorak: I don't think it's necessarily a Hollywood 253 00:16:04,530 --> 00:16:07,800 model is a book publishing model. It's a publishing 254 00:16:08,670 --> 00:16:11,370 Adam Curry: model. You can get your books anywhere. You can get 255 00:16:11,370 --> 00:16:16,230 books on Amazon, you're only one publisher? No, it's they had to 256 00:16:16,230 --> 00:16:19,830 distribution. It's not just the publishing they wanted to 257 00:16:20,220 --> 00:16:23,700 constrict the distribution. You're not gonna argue with the 258 00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:25,500 pod father. Seriously. Are you now? 259 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,480 John C Dvorak: No, I there's a flaw in your thinking. What's 260 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,020 the flaw? 261 00:16:33,540 --> 00:16:35,970 Adam Curry: Okay, accepted. There's a flaw and we don't know 262 00:16:35,970 --> 00:16:39,990 what it is. They followed the Hollywood model. They hired 263 00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:43,200 Hollywood people to do a Hollywood thing where it's only 264 00:16:43,410 --> 00:16:46,560 Oh, we have it all. You have to come to us to get it. That was 265 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,720 the flaw. That's the law. I'm 266 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,120 John C Dvorak: not gonna say that's not a huge flaw. It's a 267 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,790 mess. Yeah, but the bigger question, is there going to be 268 00:16:53,790 --> 00:16:55,440 any Neumann mics available? 269 00:16:58,410 --> 00:17:01,230 Adam Curry: I sure hope so. You know what, if there's anyone 270 00:17:01,230 --> 00:17:04,140 within Spotify, we'd love to pick up a couple of cheap 271 00:17:04,140 --> 00:17:08,010 Neumann mics we really and maybe, you know, I'm sure they 272 00:17:08,010 --> 00:17:10,440 got some other gear. What else could we get from them? They 273 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:10,770 probably 274 00:17:10,950 --> 00:17:13,020 John C Dvorak: probably have some nice mixers. I 275 00:17:13,020 --> 00:17:14,880 Adam Curry: bet you they got some good chairs. Sure. The 276 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:24,360 chairs together. Yes, exactly. All right. Now the other big 277 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:28,770 news. I mean, just it just was nonstop, non stop. Finally, the 278 00:17:28,770 --> 00:17:31,200 cyber pandemic has arrived. 279 00:17:31,230 --> 00:17:33,810 Unknown: Tonight senior government officials are racing 280 00:17:33,810 --> 00:17:36,960 to limit the impact of what one cyber expert is calling 281 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,470 potentially the largest theft and extortion event in recent 282 00:17:40,470 --> 00:17:43,560 history. American targets include multiple federal 283 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,980 agencies, including the Department of Energy, plus Johns 284 00:17:46,980 --> 00:17:50,460 Hopkins affiliated hospitals in Maryland and Florida, Georgia's 285 00:17:50,490 --> 00:17:53,700 statewide university system and the Minnesota Department of 286 00:17:53,700 --> 00:17:57,480 Education. British Airways was also hit. Officials say the 287 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,720 hackers are part of a cyber criminal gang called clop call 288 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,910 me to operate from inside Russia. 289 00:18:02,970 --> 00:18:05,850 We've started already seeing some of the data that was stolen 290 00:18:06,210 --> 00:18:10,470 as part of their work to date. These companies we strongly 291 00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:13,740 encourage anyone who is a user of this software to of course 292 00:18:13,740 --> 00:18:16,080 patch locked down their systems, 293 00:18:16,139 --> 00:18:19,169 the cyber criminals are exploiting a software program 294 00:18:19,169 --> 00:18:22,409 called Move it which companies and government agencies to 295 00:18:22,409 --> 00:18:26,099 transfer data including personal information, the group steals 296 00:18:26,099 --> 00:18:29,219 the data and in this message believed to be from the hackers 297 00:18:29,249 --> 00:18:33,419 warns that if a ransom is not paid, after seven days, all your 298 00:18:33,419 --> 00:18:37,529 data will start to be published sometimes on the dark web. Cyber 299 00:18:37,529 --> 00:18:41,249 expert Brent callow says foreign adversaries and criminals will 300 00:18:41,249 --> 00:18:42,959 be looking to leverage the data 301 00:18:43,050 --> 00:18:47,340 overseas governments will no doubt be very interested in 302 00:18:47,370 --> 00:18:50,820 obtaining the information or clop obtained through these 303 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,770 Adam Curry: Okay, couple things here first of all, clop clop 304 00:18:56,010 --> 00:18:58,170 believed to be operating from Russia 305 00:19:00,150 --> 00:19:01,290 Unknown: messages clear 306 00:19:02,550 --> 00:19:09,870 Adam Curry: clip Yeah. So we got clop and then there's this 307 00:19:09,870 --> 00:19:13,440 program called Move it now there's something missing from 308 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:19,440 the reporting here. The spate really this move it stuff from 309 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,000 what from what it looks like to me, you upload your files, their 310 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:30,120 encrypted 256, hash, hash, whatever, you know, the above, 311 00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:34,050 on any one possibility, one of the many possibilities and it 312 00:19:34,050 --> 00:19:39,870 probably works a bit like we transfer or whatever and so what 313 00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:45,180 these companies are saying there was a data breach, but then how 314 00:19:45,180 --> 00:19:49,740 do they know that these it's not your typical ransomware it's not 315 00:19:49,770 --> 00:19:53,010 they haven't locked up computers it kind of you know, the 316 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,670 reporting borderlines on that. But they say no, you know, if 317 00:19:56,670 --> 00:19:59,970 you don't pay us money, no mention of how much or how you 318 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,820 You're supposed to pay it. Usually they throw in Bitcoin. 319 00:20:03,060 --> 00:20:05,760 Yeah, that has been basically mentioned missing from the 320 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,050 missing from them from the 321 00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:09,720 Unknown: recording is terrible. And that's a harridge. 322 00:20:10,830 --> 00:20:13,710 Adam Curry: But you know, so did they show somebody something 323 00:20:13,710 --> 00:20:15,990 because they Oh, if you don't pay us, we're gonna start 324 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,370 leaking your information, maybe even on the dark web. So what 325 00:20:20,370 --> 00:20:24,870 exactly? How do they know this? I mean, this is not an intrusion 326 00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:29,070 into networks. This is a service. It's not as far as I 327 00:20:29,070 --> 00:20:33,990 could tell. It is not a piece of software. It is it is a service 328 00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:36,480 that people use. And of course, these guys got a government 329 00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:40,260 approval. So all governments Whoa, sounds like a good idea. 330 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:44,160 Let's put it all on encrypted on AWS, or whatever they're using. 331 00:20:44,790 --> 00:20:47,850 Okay. Yeah. You know, and everyone's jumping on board now 332 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,900 from Fox eight. 333 00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:54,090 Unknown: This is a special report. Good morning, I'm 334 00:20:54,090 --> 00:20:56,640 listening as we interrupt your programming to bring you this 335 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,700 breaking news from Homeland Security officials in Baton 336 00:20:59,700 --> 00:21:02,760 Rouge after a massive data breach impacting all 337 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,060 Louisianians, especially those which Louisiana licenses, let's 338 00:21:06,060 --> 00:21:07,170 listen, let's listen in 339 00:21:07,170 --> 00:21:11,730 breaking governmental entities and organizations around the 340 00:21:11,730 --> 00:21:18,360 world. Move it is a third party data transfer service that is 341 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:23,760 widely used to send large files. And it is at the center of this 342 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,300 very sophisticated breach very sophisticated. You've probably 343 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:31,620 already heard other national news reports about major 344 00:21:31,620 --> 00:21:35,220 businesses and organizations dealing with this as well. 345 00:21:36,210 --> 00:21:40,620 Yesterday morning, Governor Edwards held a unified command 346 00:21:40,620 --> 00:21:45,720 group meeting in which he was briefed on the newly discovered 347 00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:50,580 scale of this attack involving office of motor vehicle data. 348 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,020 Oh, no, he then felt it was imperative that we get this 349 00:21:55,020 --> 00:21:59,940 information out to the public immediately so that folks could 350 00:21:59,940 --> 00:22:06,420 take proactive measures. To be clear, we believe that all 351 00:22:06,420 --> 00:22:13,230 Louisianians with a state issued driver's license ID or car 352 00:22:13,230 --> 00:22:17,340 registration likely had data compromised. 353 00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:22,290 Adam Curry: Now what does that mean? I mean, this this is, this 354 00:22:22,290 --> 00:22:27,090 seems asinine. I don't even think this is not even related. 355 00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:30,900 This I think that Joel Oh, you know, it was just throw this in 356 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:35,460 there. I'd love to know if any of our producers out there have 357 00:22:35,460 --> 00:22:39,150 used move it and what it does exactly, but this whole thing 358 00:22:39,150 --> 00:22:41,850 Unknown: stinks. like it'd be much different than Dropbox. 359 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,490 Adam Curry: I wouldn't think so. But it this whole thing stinks. 360 00:22:45,030 --> 00:22:48,150 This doesn't make any sense. And the Department of Energy, or 361 00:22:48,150 --> 00:22:49,740 whatever they do with the Department of Department of 362 00:22:49,740 --> 00:22:53,280 Energy doesn't run your electricity. They don't they 363 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,910 don't they don't do that. So okay, so what did they have just 364 00:22:56,910 --> 00:23:00,300 a government website? Did they get some important documents 365 00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:04,920 from Granholm? I can tell you what they say. More hydrogen. 366 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,590 Now, it's not that hard to imagine. What 367 00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:11,370 John C Dvorak: was the thing about the DT what DMV records? 368 00:23:11,610 --> 00:23:13,590 What difference does it make? Exactly? 369 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:19,200 Take take I actually I think, you know, this is and by the 370 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,780 way, this was an evolutionary reporting. Yes. At first, when 371 00:23:24,780 --> 00:23:28,440 it first came out. It was well blob. Oh, it's nuts into it. And 372 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,140 it's not Russia. We checked on that it's not Russia, then all 373 00:23:31,140 --> 00:23:34,140 of a sudden became a flop as Russia claw Russia, but not 374 00:23:34,140 --> 00:23:36,360 Russia now. But now it's not the Russian government. So we know 375 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:41,250 it's not the Russian government. Squat. clop clop I think, and 376 00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:44,700 they've ended and the real thing that stands out like a sore 377 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:51,390 thumb to me. Is Johns Hopkins. Yes. spook. Out of the blue is 378 00:23:51,390 --> 00:23:55,590 this this this this John, what and what other universities were 379 00:23:55,590 --> 00:24:00,960 hacked? This is one of those stories you see where 30 people 380 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,370 are killed so they can execute one guy and it gets lost in the 381 00:24:05,370 --> 00:24:11,220 shuffle. I think John Hopkins was a target for some reason. 382 00:24:11,970 --> 00:24:15,600 And the rest of his all smoke screen just so we don't get we 383 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,820 don't start noticing Johns Hopkins. 384 00:24:18,450 --> 00:24:21,240 Adam Curry: I like it makes a lot of sense. 385 00:24:23,070 --> 00:24:25,230 John C Dvorak: And what did they get from Johns Hopkins? That's 386 00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:26,280 what we need to know. 387 00:24:28,410 --> 00:24:29,850 Adam Curry: Well, we're not you probably 388 00:24:29,850 --> 00:24:33,450 John C Dvorak: have to tell us if it's kind of a front for the 389 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,380 intelligence groups any one of them. There's got to be 390 00:24:37,410 --> 00:24:40,260 information that is come to light. 391 00:24:40,290 --> 00:24:44,640 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, the way it's played in the mainstream US 392 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,820 Department of Energy got ransom requests. Oh, I have I have a 393 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:51,810 ransom request for you. Excuse me. Thank you, Mister request. I 394 00:24:51,810 --> 00:24:54,810 can't pay this. Sorry. Okay. Well, it was only a request 395 00:24:54,810 --> 00:24:58,590 don't take it seriously. From the Russia linked extortion 396 00:24:58,590 --> 00:25:05,070 group. Now it's an extortion In group Klop extortion group at 397 00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:08,490 both its nuclear waste facility and scientific education 398 00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:12,930 facility that were recently hit in a global hacking campaign. 399 00:25:14,010 --> 00:25:19,620 See, these are all words that are all data was compromised at 400 00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:23,310 the to DOE entities after hackers breached their systems 401 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,030 through a security. So this is different, did they they breach 402 00:25:27,030 --> 00:25:34,470 their systems. But what are they in the network? After they they 403 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:37,110 breach their systems through a security flaw in the File 404 00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:41,280 Transfer Tool, move it to transfer. The software is widely 405 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,850 used by organizations around the world to share sensitive data 406 00:25:45,390 --> 00:25:51,570 that you used it? No, I've never even heard of it. We use SFTP 407 00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:56,010 Well, I'm not I'm not an organization. Just a dude. 408 00:25:56,370 --> 00:25:58,260 John C Dvorak: Do we know that it's widely used? I've never 409 00:25:58,260 --> 00:25:59,580 heard of it either. From the 410 00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:03,240 Adam Curry: US government department to the UK telecom 411 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,220 regulator and energy giant shell energy energy. A range of 412 00:26:08,220 --> 00:26:11,100 victims has emerged since Burlington Massachusetts based 413 00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:14,190 progress software found the security flaw in its move it 414 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,680 transfer product last month, 415 00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:20,160 Unknown: last month, last month 416 00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:23,250 Adam Curry: now, but now the wide ranging impact of it shows 417 00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:26,280 how even the most security minded federal agencies are 418 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,270 struggling to defend against ransomware attacks. Ransomware 419 00:26:30,270 --> 00:26:33,600 gangs typically scour for such widely used 420 00:26:33,630 --> 00:26:36,240 John C Dvorak: tools. This is conflating two stories. 421 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,730 Ransomware we know how that works? Yeah, it doesn't work 422 00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:42,750 through move it. 423 00:26:42,930 --> 00:26:45,570 Adam Curry: Yeah. But here's a little here's a little more 424 00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:49,770 interesting. Here we go. The Ransom requests. Ransom 425 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,830 John C Dvorak: isn't a ransom request is not the same as 426 00:26:52,830 --> 00:26:53,730 ransomware. 427 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:57,090 Adam Curry: But it's also rented would be a ransom demand. Not a 428 00:26:57,090 --> 00:26:59,550 request. Yeah, ransom. 429 00:26:59,580 --> 00:27:00,840 John C Dvorak: Exactly. Do you agree? 430 00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:03,180 Adam Curry: They demanded ransom. Oh, they requested why 431 00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:07,320 are they using the word request? The Ransom requests to the 432 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,290 Department of Energy came in emails to each facility said the 433 00:27:10,290 --> 00:27:13,410 spokesperson without revealing how much money was demanded what 434 00:27:13,410 --> 00:27:21,480 what kind of request is that? They came in individually, not 435 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,670 as kind of a blind carbon copy. Oh, was targeted email. The two 436 00:27:26,670 --> 00:27:30,420 entities that received them did not engage with clop. And there 437 00:27:30,420 --> 00:27:34,980 was no indication the ransom requests were withdrawn. Now 438 00:27:34,980 --> 00:27:36,750 that goes straight into the Department of Energy, which 439 00:27:36,750 --> 00:27:41,040 manages US nuclear weapons and nuclear waste sites related to 440 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,450 the military. Yeah, they do a lot more than that. But okay. 441 00:27:45,900 --> 00:27:49,140 They talk about battery cars notified Congress of the breach 442 00:27:49,140 --> 00:27:50,730 and is participating in investigation with law 443 00:27:50,730 --> 00:27:55,410 enforcement and the Cisar says ha, oh club did not respond to 444 00:27:55,410 --> 00:27:58,740 requests for comment. But in a post, but in a post on its 445 00:27:58,740 --> 00:28:01,740 website, wait a minute, club has a website? 446 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,440 Unknown: Do they have a spokesperson? 447 00:28:04,860 --> 00:28:07,260 Adam Curry: Well, they Well, they didn't respond to requests 448 00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:14,490 for comments. They must have a pr@clop.org I guess. The posts 449 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,290 on his website. It said yeah, it said all caps. We don't have a 450 00:28:19,290 --> 00:28:23,100 god you don't have any government data. God do a 451 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:27,450 Russian voice and suggested that should the hackers inadvertently 452 00:28:27,450 --> 00:28:30,750 have picked up such data in their mass theft. We still do 453 00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:32,700 the polite thing and delete all 454 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:42,120 John C Dvorak: their polite side is this. Hackers are these Oh 455 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,720 wow. This is a scam 456 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,080 Adam Curry: Recorded Future analyst Alan Liska said clop was 457 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,170 likely making a big deal out of how they purportedly deleted 458 00:28:52,170 --> 00:28:54,420 government data in an attempt to protect themselves from 459 00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:59,160 retaliation from Washington and other governments. This is horse 460 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:07,470 crap. Like massive loads of it too. Now, I don't the whole 461 00:29:07,470 --> 00:29:08,160 thing with bullet 462 00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:11,640 John C Dvorak: point again, I shot again, Johns Hopkins. This 463 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,150 shows up as the sore red flag on this. 464 00:29:15,150 --> 00:29:18,780 Adam Curry: Let's just listen one more time to the witch 465 00:29:18,780 --> 00:29:19,590 school. It was 466 00:29:19,620 --> 00:29:21,990 Unknown: knights senior government officials are racing 467 00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:25,140 to limit the impact of what one cyber expert is calling 468 00:29:25,140 --> 00:29:28,650 potentially the largest theft and extortion event in recent 469 00:29:28,650 --> 00:29:31,740 history. American targets include multiple federal 470 00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:35,160 agencies, including the Department of Energy, plus Johns 471 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,950 Hopkins affiliated hospitals in Maryland and Florida 472 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,850 Adam Curry: affiliated hospitals, affiliated hospitals 473 00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:42,780 in Maryland. So 474 00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:45,210 Unknown: Georgia's statewide university system, 475 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,070 Maryland and Florida. 476 00:29:50,670 --> 00:29:56,580 Adam Curry: Maryland. I don't that's interesting. I mean, 477 00:29:56,580 --> 00:30:00,000 there's a lot more they don't mention any of the other one. 478 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,010 one's there. Here we go Johns Hopkins what we do? That's a 479 00:30:05,010 --> 00:30:13,380 children's hospital I think in St. Petersburg, Florida. Yep, I 480 00:30:13,380 --> 00:30:16,380 don't know. The whole thing is weird. And I was hoping it would 481 00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:18,420 fit into Klaus, you know, we all know, 482 00:30:19,049 --> 00:30:22,949 Unknown: but still pay insufficient attention 483 00:30:23,159 --> 00:30:26,819 insufficient. Is there a frightening scenario of a 484 00:30:26,819 --> 00:30:31,829 comprehensive cyber attack, which would bring to a complete 485 00:30:31,829 --> 00:30:37,829 halt to the power supply? Transportation, hospitals 486 00:30:37,829 --> 00:30:44,369 services, our society as a whole. Oh, by 19 crisis would be 487 00:30:44,369 --> 00:30:51,569 seen in this respect as a small disturbance in comparison to a 488 00:30:51,569 --> 00:30:59,219 major cyber attack, to use COVID-19 guises as a timely 489 00:30:59,369 --> 00:31:06,449 opportunity to reflect on the lessons cybersecurity community 490 00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:12,989 can draw and improve our preparedness for potential cyber 491 00:31:12,989 --> 00:31:13,679 pandemic. 492 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,710 Adam Curry: It could just be a beginning of a setup create a 493 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:19,860 bit of tension like Oh, everywhere. Oh, I got my 494 00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:26,580 driver's license who? Oh, gum Hill. Yeah, something like that. 495 00:31:28,350 --> 00:31:32,250 That by coincidence, if there is such a thing, President Obama 496 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:38,310 was on The X Files podcast. You know, David Axelrod, his 497 00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:45,330 handler, does the X Files for CNN Podcast Network. And they 498 00:31:45,330 --> 00:31:50,220 were talking about the digital ID I think, in in a backhanded 499 00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:50,580 way. 500 00:31:50,610 --> 00:31:53,430 Unknown: This is disruptive for our economy. They're even close 501 00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:55,890 to the issues we were talking about before. In terms of 502 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:01,860 misinformation, disinformation, fakes. I've seen a few of 503 00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:06,450 you. Yes, I've told people because I was the first digital 504 00:32:06,450 --> 00:32:09,660 president when I left office as probably the most recorded 505 00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:12,270 filmed photograph human in 506 00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,230 Adam Curry: women. Is that a moniker he was given the first 507 00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:20,250 digital president? Not that I recall, I think it was Bill 508 00:32:20,250 --> 00:32:23,610 Clinton, who helped get the Bill Clinton was the 509 00:32:23,610 --> 00:32:26,310 Unknown: first black president. Sorry, you're 510 00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:31,680 I've seen I've seen a few of you. Yes. I've told people 511 00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:35,640 because I was the first digital president when I left office as 512 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,810 probably the most recorded filmed photograph human in 513 00:32:39,810 --> 00:32:42,330 history, which is kind of a weird thing. Yes. 514 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,210 Adam Curry: Human not out human in history. 515 00:32:45,390 --> 00:32:47,160 Unknown: A human human really. 516 00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:51,000 Adam Curry: You don't sweat Barak know if you're human 517 00:32:51,030 --> 00:32:53,730 Unknown: in history, which is kind of a weird thing. Yes. I 518 00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:56,880 just the odds are that I was as consequence, 519 00:32:56,970 --> 00:33:00,450 Adam Curry: the odds are that I this is aggrandizement on quite 520 00:33:00,450 --> 00:33:03,780 a scale the odds are that I was just don't argue with me acts 521 00:33:03,870 --> 00:33:04,620 just handle me. 522 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,880 Unknown: Yes, I just the odds are that I was as consequence, 523 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,060 there's a lot of raw material there. So usually, all the 524 00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:15,300 defects start with like some version of Obama doing something 525 00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:19,950 dancing, saying, dirty limericks are some version 526 00:33:19,950 --> 00:33:23,370 John C Dvorak: of Obama. Is that what he said? Yeah, he's seeing 527 00:33:23,610 --> 00:33:25,440 himself in the third person. Yes, 528 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,920 Adam Curry: of course. The you know, Obama, the personal 529 00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:32,520 version of Obama. Yeah. By the way, that didn't work. Those 530 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,670 weren't deep fakes. We just the people just edited your audio 531 00:33:35,670 --> 00:33:41,100 book in a different order. We remember the Obama deep fakes 532 00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:44,910 now, just all the swear words all the cuss words you put in 533 00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:47,760 your audio book people put them together was hilarious. Not a 534 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,960 deep fake. Not a deep fake. 535 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,190 Unknown: There's plenty of those not a deep fake misusing the 536 00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:54,060 term Yes. 537 00:33:54,180 --> 00:33:58,170 Usually all the defects start with like some version of Obama 538 00:33:58,170 --> 00:34:02,610 doing something dancing, saying dirty limericks are. 539 00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:06,930 Adam Curry: Right, there was plenty of you dancing, Mr. 540 00:34:06,930 --> 00:34:07,560 President, 541 00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:09,390 Unknown: that technology is here now. 542 00:34:10,830 --> 00:34:14,460 Adam Curry: That technology is here now. Most immediately, 543 00:34:14,460 --> 00:34:17,670 Unknown: we're going to have all the problems we had with 544 00:34:17,670 --> 00:34:22,860 misinformation before this next election cycle will be worse. 545 00:34:23,549 --> 00:34:26,669 Adam Curry: Okay, so now we need to do something about a problem 546 00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:27,509 reaction 547 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:32,310 Unknown: and the need for us, for the general public, I think 548 00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:36,420 to be more discriminating consumers of news and 549 00:34:36,420 --> 00:34:41,070 information, the need for us to over time develop technologies 550 00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:47,730 create watermarks or digital fingerprints so we know what is 551 00:34:47,730 --> 00:34:49,860 true and what is not true 552 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,880 Adam Curry: digital fingerprints. That sounds like a 553 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,370 digital ID to me. Yeah. 554 00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,280 Unknown: He's talking about 555 00:34:59,430 --> 00:35:00,510 Adam Curry: Well, no, he doesn't but 556 00:35:00,540 --> 00:35:04,380 John C Dvorak: then there's so much on Biden that they, you 557 00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:06,360 know, just him. No, I have tons of clips. 558 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:10,110 Adam Curry: Let's do some but I have let's do some Biden AI. 559 00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:13,770 Unknown: Well, I do have a bite. You have a Biden AI? No. 560 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,990 Adam Curry: You said you got clips. I mean, Biden. I 561 00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:18,570 John C Dvorak: got clips but I also have one Biden AI. 562 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,430 Adam Curry: No, I have no Biden AI. 563 00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:22,770 John C Dvorak: Oh, okay. Well, I have this. I figured that, you 564 00:35:22,770 --> 00:35:27,360 know, he's bringing up these. This is a I think it's a salvo. 565 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,060 So he sends it out. You know, we're gonna have a lot of fake 566 00:35:30,060 --> 00:35:32,760 stuff going on. But no, but the Biden stuff is all real. It's 567 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,700 real. There is a fake one that they tried to push out which 568 00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:39,870 it's kind of funny. It's Biden and Trump debating this is the 569 00:35:39,870 --> 00:35:45,030 try Biden column Biden clear caulk fake caucus so massive. I 570 00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:47,280 mean, it is possibly the biggest cock I have ever seen it. 571 00:35:47,790 --> 00:35:49,260 Unknown: respond very quickly, and then I'll get to my 572 00:35:49,260 --> 00:35:49,770 question. 573 00:35:49,980 --> 00:35:53,370 Why did he he's been saying this caucus massive for four years. 574 00:35:53,850 --> 00:35:57,300 Show us just show us stop playing around. 575 00:36:02,430 --> 00:36:04,410 Adam Curry: It's lewd, it's lewd. Therefore. It's just a 576 00:36:04,410 --> 00:36:09,600 borderline but man. He got me with that one. I had not heard 577 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,290 that one. You were familiar? No, I'm not familiar with the 578 00:36:13,290 --> 00:36:19,770 cockfight? No, that is massive. Yeah, you should stop. Just stop 579 00:36:19,770 --> 00:36:23,310 talking about it. Show it already. Yeah. This is This is 580 00:36:23,310 --> 00:36:25,980 America. This is what we do with technology. We're not gonna 581 00:36:26,010 --> 00:36:29,610 we're not going to try and fake you. We're gonna make you laugh. 582 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:34,200 And no one's falling for it. Oh, oh, man. I think they're really 583 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:41,700 talking about that. What do you think? I won 12 Second Biden AI 584 00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,370 clip because this obviously couldn't be an actual President 585 00:36:44,370 --> 00:36:48,930 of the United States talking here about pistols and pistol 586 00:36:48,930 --> 00:36:49,560 braces 587 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,740 Unknown: made it harder for people to buy stabilized brace 588 00:36:52,860 --> 00:36:57,810 braces, put a pistol on a brace turns into a gun. Makes it more 589 00:36:57,810 --> 00:37:00,150 you can have a higher caliber weapon or a higher caliber 590 00:37:00,150 --> 00:37:01,440 bullet coming out of that gun. 591 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,110 Adam Curry: Okay, sorry for the one channel. 592 00:37:04,620 --> 00:37:06,360 John C Dvorak: It was let's do some real Biden clip. 593 00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:07,980 Adam Curry: That was a real clip. 594 00:37:08,970 --> 00:37:12,360 Unknown: Oh, that was him actually. Yeah. What an idiot. 595 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:12,480 He 596 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,850 Adam Curry: says if you put a brace on a pistol, it turns 597 00:37:14,850 --> 00:37:17,610 Unknown: into more caliber guns into 598 00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:20,400 Adam Curry: a real gun. And then you get more caliber Higher, 599 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,890 higher caliber bullet coming out of it. 600 00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:25,680 John C Dvorak: All right. Well, I got it. But I've got a bunch 601 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,440 of clips. Here we go. I don't do these as much as I used to 602 00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:31,020 Adam Curry: when we've been missing them. But seeing as the 603 00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:33,300 president is out there on the campaign trail, he's might as 604 00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:33,570 well 605 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,790 John C Dvorak: bumbling and fumbling his way through okay, 606 00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:37,440 here's where you start with 8%. 607 00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:42,270 Unknown: But you have we have 1000 billionaires in America 608 00:37:42,930 --> 00:37:47,310 know the average tax rate they pay? Eight AIGA is 609 00:37:51,330 --> 00:37:57,120 Adam Curry: percent 8% AA 8% 1000 billion or eight e 610 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,140 IG H 611 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,140 Unknown: E IG H Wow. 612 00:38:01,410 --> 00:38:03,150 Adam Curry: That's that's almost respectable. 613 00:38:03,870 --> 00:38:06,240 John C Dvorak: So here we go with 54 states. 614 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,850 Unknown: And by the way, if they do that means not a joke, 615 00:38:08,850 --> 00:38:12,960 everybody. That's why we were defeated in 2018. When they 616 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,660 tried to do we went to 54 states. 617 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:22,440 Adam Curry: Now, okay, so we've been through this with Obama. 618 00:38:23,460 --> 00:38:27,150 And Obama also had the, you know, we have 58 states, but 619 00:38:27,150 --> 00:38:32,760 that's when they somehow in Washington DC. They, they take 620 00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:37,710 the territories into account, and then these and so normal for 621 00:38:37,710 --> 00:38:41,430 them, they just for some reason, they all wind up making this 622 00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:45,720 mistake. It's weird, because I think was 58 with Obama. Let me 623 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:46,170 see 624 00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:50,490 Unknown: those 58 or 54 625 00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:58,890 Adam Curry: I see Obama was at 54 I can't find anything on it. 626 00:38:59,310 --> 00:39:02,790 John C Dvorak: Or let's go on. Here's by OBO Biden. 627 00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:07,319 Adam Curry: You said Joe Biden, back in the groove? Yeah, baby. 628 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,140 Unknown: Indian OSHA. This 629 00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:11,040 Adam Curry: is this classic. 630 00:39:11,070 --> 00:39:13,140 Unknown: We're gonna win and we're gonna help we have plans 631 00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:15,660 to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the 632 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:20,400 the notion we have plans to build in in Angola one of the 633 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,820 largest solar plants in the world. I can go on but I'm not 634 00:39:23,820 --> 00:39:25,620 I'm going off script. I'm gonna get in trouble. 635 00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:29,550 Adam Curry: So it's going under the under the Indian Ocean. This 636 00:39:29,550 --> 00:39:30,870 is dynamite from 637 00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:33,360 John C Dvorak: the Pacific. How's that work? Okay, well, 638 00:39:33,390 --> 00:39:35,670 Adam Curry: we understand what he meant. So give him a break. 639 00:39:37,470 --> 00:39:39,630 Yeah, he's old. Give him a break. I mean, that 640 00:39:41,610 --> 00:39:44,070 John C Dvorak: is just the last clip that I want everyone out 641 00:39:44,070 --> 00:39:47,790 there who likes to do songs you know, put together into show 642 00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:53,040 mixes. I don't know why we this is not new. I don't know why we 643 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,770 never caught it before. I don't remember it guys Sherwood 644 00:39:55,770 --> 00:40:00,000 because it reminds me of the old Obama. No, no, no. This is by 645 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,960 ain't doing it. 646 00:40:01,110 --> 00:40:06,390 Unknown: As I said last week we remain in the battle for the 647 00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:12,330 soul of America, by the way all right God love you. Let him go. 648 00:40:12,930 --> 00:40:18,810 Let him go NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO don't let him go. 649 00:40:20,670 --> 00:40:24,210 Everybody's entitled being an idiot. Wow, no, everybody's 650 00:40:24,210 --> 00:40:24,450 going. 651 00:40:24,810 --> 00:40:27,810 Adam Curry: Oh man, let me do that. That's a great sequence. 652 00:40:28,530 --> 00:40:29,070 Oops sorry. 653 00:40:29,580 --> 00:40:33,960 Unknown: No, no no no no no no no no no no no don't let him go 654 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,050 I 655 00:40:34,050 --> 00:40:38,670 Adam Curry: love I love that that's perfect. 656 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:43,080 Unknown: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO don't let him go. 657 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:55,920 I've been watching you No no, no, no, no, no no. Go I love 658 00:40:57,450 --> 00:41:02,580 Adam Curry: that kind of works. Love it. Oh man. Good one it 659 00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:03,780 good. That is 660 00:41:03,780 --> 00:41:04,440 Unknown: a gem. 661 00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:09,060 Adam Curry: That its beauty. And he got it's literally he got 662 00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:09,660 stuck. 663 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:10,740 Unknown: He is stuck 664 00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:13,230 Adam Curry: not an n n n n n n and you know like a digital it 665 00:41:13,230 --> 00:41:17,460 was digital digital glitch. It was glitching Biden to the 666 00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:20,370 Eidelman I think glitch Biden glitch Gaiden glitch there you 667 00:41:20,370 --> 00:41:21,720 go by this was years not 668 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:23,820 John C Dvorak: as good but it says he does say instead of 669 00:41:23,850 --> 00:41:27,450 trends. Charter says transistor Americans 670 00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:30,570 Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, no, that's impossible. He did not 671 00:41:30,570 --> 00:41:34,980 say transistor Americans. Tell me that's not true. As Commander 672 00:41:34,980 --> 00:41:37,200 Unknown: in Chief, I was proud to have ended the ban on 673 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,340 transistor Americans, 674 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,050 Adam Curry: though he says trans jester 675 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,770 John C Dvorak: this transistor and then he corrects himself 676 00:41:43,770 --> 00:41:43,980 hold 677 00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:46,470 Unknown: on as commander in chief I was proud of and as the 678 00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:49,920 ban on transistor Americans transgender Americans serving 679 00:41:50,130 --> 00:41:52,560 that's the that's the same when we played as commander in chief. 680 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,620 I was proud to have ended the ban on transgender Americans 681 00:41:55,620 --> 00:41:56,490 trans gesture 682 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,920 now I'm hearing treads joke Okay, no. 683 00:41:59,850 --> 00:42:01,380 Adam Curry: Trans jester is a hit. 684 00:42:02,339 --> 00:42:04,409 John C Dvorak: Okay, let's go to the left does the last of the 685 00:42:04,409 --> 00:42:07,769 Biden was that I do have a couple of to dos that I like to 686 00:42:07,769 --> 00:42:11,969 interject. Kudo does this do? 687 00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:15,690 Adam Curry: Well, yeah, he's it's the same programming. 688 00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:20,070 John C Dvorak: So let's go with this. stump speech, which is 689 00:42:20,070 --> 00:42:20,880 just a mess. 690 00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:23,370 Unknown: You know what I get when I were talking about the 691 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,910 fentanyl the border and all that. I speak to the president 692 00:42:26,910 --> 00:42:33,600 Mexico. Will you stop sending guns to us? We are sending 693 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:41,460 dangerous weapons, particularly solos to Mexico, New Mexico, are 694 00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:47,880 asking us please stop it. Cut it off at the border. But in God's 695 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,480 name, we could be coming if we don't do this. Now as some of 696 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,150 you know, I'd usually come down and say hi to Oliver. They tell 697 00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:55,740 me there's a storm I'll 698 00:42:55,860 --> 00:42:58,860 Adam Curry: just stop here for a second. But the government has 699 00:42:58,860 --> 00:43:02,580 been sending weapons to Mexico it was called Fast and Furious. 700 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:03,120 Was it not? 701 00:43:03,149 --> 00:43:04,319 Unknown: Yeah, hello. 702 00:43:04,350 --> 00:43:07,830 Adam Curry: That's exactly what we do. And so now does his Biden 703 00:43:07,830 --> 00:43:08,700 not read in on this? 704 00:43:08,759 --> 00:43:10,739 John C Dvorak: I don't think Biden has been read in on it. 705 00:43:10,770 --> 00:43:14,490 Adam Curry: I guess it didn't stop Wow, what did 706 00:43:14,879 --> 00:43:19,139 Unknown: God's name we becoming if we don't do this now, Shana? 707 00:43:19,139 --> 00:43:22,289 You know, I'd usually come down and say Hi, Doctor. They tell me 708 00:43:22,529 --> 00:43:26,399 there's a storm coming in. Is that right? Is still Is that 709 00:43:26,399 --> 00:43:31,169 still the deal? That's the truth now don't make a lie. As that 710 00:43:31,169 --> 00:43:34,469 said that scene in John Wayne movie don't make me a dog face 711 00:43:34,529 --> 00:43:39,989 why and pony soldier All right. God save the Queen man. 712 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,040 Adam Curry: Let's let's listen to his OG of that. 713 00:43:47,070 --> 00:43:51,720 Unknown: Number one. I was a Democratic caucus. Member of 714 00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:56,220 caucus no you haven't your lion dog faced pony stores. 715 00:43:56,310 --> 00:43:58,920 Adam Curry: That's why that's the line lion dog faced pony 716 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,560 soldier. He can't even get that out anymore. Let's Let's do it 717 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,010 again. 718 00:44:02,310 --> 00:44:05,250 Unknown: Is that right is still Is that still the deal? That's 719 00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:10,080 the truth. Now don't make a lie. As that said that scene in John 720 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,200 Wayne movie. Don't make me a dog face. Why and ponies? Oh, 721 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,580 Adam Curry: no, I got it. No, he did it. He did it. 722 00:44:14,670 --> 00:44:17,460 Unknown: All right. God save the Queen man. 723 00:44:18,060 --> 00:44:19,320 Adam Curry: What was that about? 724 00:44:19,980 --> 00:44:22,860 John C Dvorak: That that's the big mystery God Save the Queen. 725 00:44:24,420 --> 00:44:29,490 To hell is that about? Alright, two more and we're done. We're 726 00:44:29,490 --> 00:44:31,830 Adam Curry: just gonna I guess everyone just ignores that in 727 00:44:31,830 --> 00:44:33,810 the mainstream. Like didn't really happen. I 728 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:36,600 John C Dvorak: know. None of this ever happened. Okay. All 729 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,380 right. You have to listen to the no agenda show to get a you know 730 00:44:40,380 --> 00:44:42,510 a little few of these once in a while. 731 00:44:42,540 --> 00:44:43,800 Adam Curry: Yeah, to have to have a chuckle. 732 00:44:47,220 --> 00:44:50,310 John C Dvorak: God save the Queen. Yes. Here's Trudeau on 733 00:44:50,310 --> 00:44:51,000 masks. 734 00:44:53,220 --> 00:44:57,090 Unknown: If people want to wear a mask, that is okay. Because it 735 00:44:57,090 --> 00:45:02,520 prevents you from breathing or it's Speaking up turned moistly 736 00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:03,000 on them. 737 00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:09,300 Adam Curry: He said moistly a big millennial. No, no. I can't 738 00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:13,440 believe you said that. All right. Yes. Good. Good. 739 00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:15,660 Unknown: Here's him talking about water bottle 740 00:45:15,690 --> 00:45:19,590 water bottles out of water out of when we have water bottles 741 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:27,120 out of a plastic. Sorry, away from plastic towards paper. Like 742 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,170 drink box water bottle. 743 00:45:28,290 --> 00:45:34,650 Adam Curry: Oh man. It's just also sad. It's also sad. All 744 00:45:34,650 --> 00:45:39,030 these people that just sad. Just said I do have another Biden 745 00:45:39,060 --> 00:45:42,870 this was I love this one and you didn't get this one. Okay, okay, 746 00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:43,650 we've mobilized 747 00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:45,930 Unknown: the world's leading emitters to help poor countries 748 00:45:46,110 --> 00:45:50,640 deal with the impacts of climate change. They call it the g7 the 749 00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:54,510 bill back Biden bill back better than we realize that got 750 00:45:54,510 --> 00:45:58,410 confusing. Yeah, now we don't call it that. We call it this. 751 00:45:58,770 --> 00:46:01,680 Here's the bottom line. Look, we're the ones that caused the 752 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:07,380 problem. The United States we cleared all our land we did all 753 00:46:07,380 --> 00:46:11,430 the things to make our make things more easy for us to make 754 00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:11,790 money. 755 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,220 Adam Curry: I don't know what he's saying. But I just love 756 00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:17,040 Unknown: like day hell is he saying? I'd like to build back 757 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:17,820 Biden deal 758 00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:18,480 with impact. 759 00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:19,680 Adam Curry: What do we call it? 760 00:46:19,740 --> 00:46:24,540 Unknown: They call it the g7 the bill back Biden bill back better 761 00:46:26,190 --> 00:46:30,210 Adam Curry: the bill back by noon 762 00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:42,120 what a narcissist can only think of himself build back Biden. 763 00:46:44,190 --> 00:46:50,130 Yeah, yeah. Well, this brings us to unless you have more. 764 00:46:50,820 --> 00:46:53,640 John C Dvorak: Yeah, definitely. No, my Biden bit a little bit of 765 00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:57,420 Adam Curry: AI news for you. Since it's hot and everything. 766 00:46:57,450 --> 00:47:02,310 Everything now is AI everything is AI. I mean, I'm using a 767 00:47:02,310 --> 00:47:08,550 program to play jingles AI man. It's all AI Photoshop AI. Yeah, 768 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:11,910 see, I use Microsoft Word AI. It's all AI. 769 00:47:11,940 --> 00:47:14,730 Unknown: There are new rules at the Grammys with the brave new 770 00:47:14,730 --> 00:47:18,390 world of artificial intelligence in mind. The Recording Academy 771 00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:22,410 says only human creators are eligible for an award. However, 772 00:47:22,410 --> 00:47:26,760 not all AI is banned. A human just has to contribute content 773 00:47:26,850 --> 00:47:29,790 that is, quote, meaningful, and relevant. However, that's 774 00:47:29,790 --> 00:47:30,180 measured. 775 00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:35,730 Adam Curry: I mean, it's just blather now. Just black. 776 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,090 Everything I hear in Mute. Everything you hear music, by 777 00:47:39,090 --> 00:47:42,330 definition, has run through algorithms processing 778 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,500 algorithms, if you're worried called all AI, samplers, I mean, 779 00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:51,810 this is it's so not new, but is old. It's old news. But okay, 780 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,000 gives ABC a reason to do this one, an 781 00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:57,240 Unknown: eye opening survey about artificial intelligence. 782 00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:58,080 Also a little scary. 783 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,260 Some of the world's top CEOs gathered at a summit and a 784 00:48:01,260 --> 00:48:05,340 survey found 42% of them believe that artificial intelligence 785 00:48:05,550 --> 00:48:09,480 could destroy humanity in the next five to 10 years. For some 786 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,900 of those same executives are approving job cuts directly 787 00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:15,870 related to using AI What can possibly go wrong? Interesting, 788 00:48:15,870 --> 00:48:17,160 because we'll have to wait and see. 789 00:48:18,450 --> 00:48:20,580 Adam Curry: I wish they would say that about climate change. 790 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,310 Oh, five to 10 years, we're all gonna die. Well, it gets we 791 00:48:23,310 --> 00:48:25,770 don't have to worry about climate change is always all AI 792 00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:30,450 is going to eat the world. And so we talked on the last show 793 00:48:30,450 --> 00:48:34,380 about the European Union, and that they are putting together 794 00:48:34,380 --> 00:48:38,280 rules, rules against AI. And what they're really talking 795 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,720 about is facial recognition. Which I guess if you want to 796 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:47,100 call that AI Alright, call it AI. Claire Daly. Luckily, she 797 00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:51,600 stands up and she says, yeah, it's unbelievable. We get into 798 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,270 my beat the real socialists we love her. Oh, did you have this 799 00:48:54,270 --> 00:48:59,400 clip? No, no. Claire gets up and she talks about facial 800 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,590 recognition and she drops a little bomb in there about 801 00:49:01,590 --> 00:49:04,110 what's really happening. It's exactly what we said would be 802 00:49:04,110 --> 00:49:04,680 happening. 803 00:49:04,770 --> 00:49:08,670 Unknown: AI is being sold to us as the latest in a series of 804 00:49:08,670 --> 00:49:12,120 groundbreaking technological leaps. It'll make our lives 805 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,300 easier, it'll make the world a better place. Well Don't believe 806 00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:19,860 the hype. Like so much before us AI will be used for surveillance 807 00:49:19,980 --> 00:49:23,820 and control. It won't give us a four day working week or longer 808 00:49:23,820 --> 00:49:27,030 summer holidays. It won't solve the climate crisis or 809 00:49:27,060 --> 00:49:30,870 redistribute wealth. It won't make public services better or 810 00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:34,410 policing more effective, it will be just more of the same, but 811 00:49:34,410 --> 00:49:39,060 faster, and probably much worse that judicial systems around the 812 00:49:39,060 --> 00:49:43,710 world are exploring using AI and judicial decision making should 813 00:49:43,710 --> 00:49:47,580 scare the hell out of us that Ukraine has been held up as a 814 00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:52,080 living lab for AI warfare is frightening. We should be 815 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,140 approaching this subject cautiously, like every new 816 00:49:55,140 --> 00:49:59,310 technology instead, we're far too quick to follow industry, 817 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,130 governments Across Europe are chomping at the bit to use 818 00:50:02,130 --> 00:50:05,370 facial recognition to hell with people's rights the Irish 819 00:50:05,370 --> 00:50:08,490 government of MEP so we're in coming in here saying they 820 00:50:08,490 --> 00:50:12,210 disagree with a put their moving legislation before a possible EU 821 00:50:12,210 --> 00:50:15,510 ban. The EPP should be ashamed of themselves for reneging on 822 00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:18,480 the heart hours of negotiation. Committee. 823 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,660 Adam Curry: There it is. There it is. So while they're working 824 00:50:21,660 --> 00:50:27,000 on a ban, they're moving in legislation to use it. Yeah. 825 00:50:27,810 --> 00:50:32,010 Surprise surprise, to use it everywhere. And Mizel mentioned 826 00:50:32,010 --> 00:50:36,450 this question has been emailed to me so much I'm surprised that 827 00:50:36,450 --> 00:50:39,330 no agenda producers I mean, they know this stuff, but still they 828 00:50:39,330 --> 00:50:43,500 won't email it to me so I will mention this poor customer who 829 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,030 is all in on Amazon. He has the ring doorbell he's got the door 830 00:50:48,030 --> 00:50:51,900 locks he's got the Alexa he's got all everything all connected 831 00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:55,680 to Amazon. Particularly the the smart one is the ring doorbell 832 00:50:55,710 --> 00:51:01,320 which is a spy device, and the locks. And I guess you can 833 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,220 program your ring doorbell was something funny. You can have it 834 00:51:05,220 --> 00:51:09,120 say funny stuff like hey, oh, man, leave it there. You know, 835 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,850 maybe a Fred Sanford type voice you can you know, whatever if 836 00:51:11,850 --> 00:51:15,390 someone just rings the doorbell with a package. And so a 837 00:51:15,390 --> 00:51:19,560 delivery person delivered a package and the doorbell he 838 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,230 thought the doorbell said something that was racist. So he 839 00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:26,760 reported it back to Amazon HQ. And Amazon pulled the plug on 840 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,880 the guy's account and of course locked him out of his house now 841 00:51:30,810 --> 00:51:33,960 probably wouldn't let him turn on his lights. And it's like, 842 00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:40,320 ah, like don't do this people. How many floors reminded 843 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,900 John C Dvorak: you know, of all the people that are all you 844 00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:46,200 know, wired to the gills with you know, you can just drive by 845 00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:50,010 drive by door opener you know, there's all these kids you get a 846 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,700 one of these universal garage door openers you just drive down 847 00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:58,380 the street open everybody's garage door. doll is it being 848 00:51:58,380 --> 00:52:01,350 dependent on any of that stuff. It's just asking for vandals to 849 00:52:01,350 --> 00:52:03,360 just have a tough time in their life. 850 00:52:03,690 --> 00:52:06,270 Adam Curry: I love the troll room correcting me it was the up 851 00:52:06,270 --> 00:52:09,900 board doorbell ring. He said can I help you? Okay, you get the 852 00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:14,520 point. Here's another great piece of AI. So someone 853 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,320 unleashed AI, a journalist Joseph Martens and sent me an 854 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,920 email, I'm sure a I did this forum. Joseph Martin's. My name 855 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,410 is Joseph Martens. I'm a journalist with The Times News 856 00:52:25,410 --> 00:52:28,770 Express, an online newspaper. I was conducting research for an 857 00:52:28,770 --> 00:52:32,880 article I wrote and came across this link. And links to a no 858 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,690 agenda Show episode, I wrote an article troubleshooting guide 859 00:52:36,690 --> 00:52:39,930 for common laptop issues on the New Times News expression, and 860 00:52:39,930 --> 00:52:42,840 would like to link back to your website as a resource for the 861 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,450 article. In return, I would highly appreciate if you could 862 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,050 link add a link back to one of my websites. You could get 863 00:52:49,050 --> 00:52:52,320 additional publicity rank higher on Google. So I go and take a 864 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,840 look. Well, what what he must have he obviously got some 865 00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:59,400 information from us. It's no agenda Show episode 797 titled 866 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:04,830 laptop bomb. I mean, come on people. This is not this is not 867 00:53:04,830 --> 00:53:05,640 smart AI. 868 00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:09,480 John C Dvorak: First of all, first of all, having run a blog 869 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,020 for a decade. Yes, you've seen this old you've seen these 870 00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:16,680 requests. 10 years ago, I was getting these notes that always 871 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,740 come from someone with a phony baloney. They say we saw the 872 00:53:19,740 --> 00:53:23,550 link Yeah. And it's some link from a blog post that's five 873 00:53:23,550 --> 00:53:25,980 years old that no one has ever opened. 874 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,070 Adam Curry: It has gotten odd has Google juice somehow I think 875 00:53:29,070 --> 00:53:29,850 that well I think that's 876 00:53:30,450 --> 00:53:32,670 John C Dvorak: they might you know they did stem with a 877 00:53:32,670 --> 00:53:34,890 scraper I don't know how they do it. But what it is, but it's a 878 00:53:34,890 --> 00:53:37,890 form letter. It's not AI generated by any means. 879 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,620 Adam Curry: I was just formed letter. Thanks, John. I was just 880 00:53:40,620 --> 00:53:42,660 kind of joking around and being okay, well, 881 00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:46,110 John C Dvorak: I'm just saying these guys keep doing this. And 882 00:53:46,110 --> 00:53:50,760 it's like it when you respond to them. Which I stupidly did once 883 00:53:52,050 --> 00:53:55,740 again, you responded to nothing because nobody home it's like, 884 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,130 Don't kid yourself. They just want to look at for free Linksys 885 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,350 I don't know if this is a trick. I don't know Does anyone do this 886 00:54:04,350 --> 00:54:07,080 but buy into this bullcrap? You didn't 887 00:54:07,140 --> 00:54:10,380 Adam Curry: know of course not. I just thought it was anybody 888 00:54:10,380 --> 00:54:13,140 ever thought was interesting that they literally searched for 889 00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:18,780 laptop and then didn't even see the laptop bomb. That seems like 890 00:54:18,780 --> 00:54:21,420 it wouldn't go along with troubleshooting your laptop 891 00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:21,990 story. 892 00:54:25,230 --> 00:54:27,120 John C Dvorak: Tim and Joe saying you'll do it for 500 893 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:27,570 bucks 894 00:54:29,010 --> 00:54:32,970 Adam Curry: that's what I would say I still have diaries.com and 895 00:54:33,150 --> 00:54:36,480 do ya about twice a week? I'll get an email I'm highly 896 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:41,310 interested in buying this domain name well, no one's ever no 897 00:54:41,310 --> 00:54:46,110 one's ever taken me up on my my price. A surprise one one 898 00:54:46,110 --> 00:54:49,770 bitcoin which I think is decent. One Bitcoin. That's all I ask. 899 00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:55,080 John C Dvorak: Do you know that art.com I learned this when I 900 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,970 was doing silicone spin. Because the guy bone do their art.com 901 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:06,210 sold for a million dollars. Well, that's nothing. That's 902 00:55:06,210 --> 00:55:09,630 nothing in the or Well, no, it's true. It's not it's there are 903 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,780 during the heyday of domain name sales before they came up with 904 00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:19,380 all these new domain domain domain names. They were selling 905 00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:21,780 for a million dollars and associate your price of a one 906 00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:24,330 Bitcoin for diaries.com is reasonable. 907 00:55:24,449 --> 00:55:26,969 Adam Curry: Cuban sold broadcast.com for a billion. 908 00:55:27,869 --> 00:55:32,339 Basically. That's what I mean. I mean, I've been offered a lot 909 00:55:32,339 --> 00:55:36,179 for curry.com. But no one Navid I can't sell that my whole life 910 00:55:36,179 --> 00:55:37,649 is it's my identity man. 911 00:55:38,970 --> 00:55:40,920 Unknown: Who would put everyone has a price? 912 00:55:41,940 --> 00:55:43,050 Adam Curry: No, I don't think so. 913 00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:46,110 John C Dvorak: 10 million bucks. Cash. Cash Money. 914 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,830 Adam Curry: You're my man. Come on over here. Let's party. 10 915 00:55:49,830 --> 00:55:51,900 million. No one's gonna spend $10 million. 916 00:55:53,010 --> 00:55:55,020 John C Dvorak: Would you do it for 10 million cash money? 917 00:55:55,290 --> 00:55:57,510 Adam Curry: Cash Money? Yeah, 918 00:55:57,540 --> 00:56:00,540 Unknown: I guess I would. Okay, there. Yeah. But it would 919 00:56:00,690 --> 00:56:03,060 Adam Curry: I mean, five wouldn't be enough. 920 00:56:04,350 --> 00:56:05,550 Unknown: But 10 Yeah, 921 00:56:05,580 --> 00:56:09,420 Adam Curry: I don't. That's when my scruples drop away. Yeah, I 922 00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:12,450 think I think I'd have to Yeah, 10 is a lot of money. I could 923 00:56:12,450 --> 00:56:17,190 stop doing this podcast. You probably wouldn't. That's how 924 00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:17,940 dumb I am 925 00:56:18,420 --> 00:56:20,460 John C Dvorak: to be doing a podcast but you also have $10 926 00:56:20,460 --> 00:56:23,220 million in the bank. Cash Money. 927 00:56:24,029 --> 00:56:27,029 Adam Curry: Yeah, for what it's worth for as long as it's still 928 00:56:27,029 --> 00:56:32,399 worth 10 10 million. Just Just watch it dwindle away. All 929 00:56:32,399 --> 00:56:36,569 right, so just related to Amazon. There's another strike 930 00:56:36,569 --> 00:56:39,179 looming this one might be this one might get interesting. And 931 00:56:39,179 --> 00:56:41,429 of course, the story doesn't explain what it's what the 932 00:56:41,429 --> 00:56:46,769 problem is. But we all love our UPS drivers and and they are 933 00:56:46,769 --> 00:56:49,439 part of the Teamsters I believe so this is this could be a 934 00:56:49,469 --> 00:56:51,569 pretty big strike. Gil Guzman 935 00:56:51,570 --> 00:56:55,560 Unknown: has been driving for ups for 23 years did you vote to 936 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,470 authorize the strike? I did. We're the best in the business 937 00:56:58,770 --> 00:57:02,370 is how to get paid later. He's one of 330,000 employees who 938 00:57:02,370 --> 00:57:05,610 want wage increases and more full time jobs. 939 00:57:05,939 --> 00:57:08,879 We work hard, we work hard for our job. We work hard for this 940 00:57:08,879 --> 00:57:11,279 company. We move this country around. 941 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:16,590 UPS is the biggest shipping company in the US around 6% of 942 00:57:16,590 --> 00:57:19,950 the nation's gross domestic product passes through its brown 943 00:57:19,950 --> 00:57:23,940 vans, nationwide, drivers deliver nearly 90 million 944 00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:28,470 packages every single day. And a halt in operations would cause 945 00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:30,540 major supply chain disruptions. 946 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,600 The reason we call the chain is that it's so integrated so any 947 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,540 strike, especially the long lasting strike 948 00:57:36,570 --> 00:57:40,740 could have a devastating effect. Most of the summer, back to 949 00:57:40,740 --> 00:57:42,900 schools and upcoming holidays, 950 00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:46,140 the boom in online shopping during the pandemic is still 951 00:57:46,140 --> 00:57:49,470 going strong, resulting in record profits for the company. 952 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,770 So why not share with your employees? Drivers already won a 953 00:57:52,770 --> 00:57:56,250 big concession this week when UPS agreed to install air 954 00:57:56,250 --> 00:57:59,400 conditioning in its trucks. If you could say one thing to the 955 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,380 people who are in the negotiating room, what would you 956 00:58:01,380 --> 00:58:02,490 want them to know from you 957 00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:08,790 just don't mess it up. You got 330,000 Strong UPS is that give 958 00:58:08,790 --> 00:58:12,150 their blood sweat and tears for this company and both sides this 959 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:13,980 is working out and make it happen. 960 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,090 Now a strike is not a guarantee at this point in the negotiation 961 00:58:18,090 --> 00:58:22,470 and UPS says it is aligned with its workers on many key issues 962 00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:25,890 and it is committed to reaching a deal before this contract 963 00:58:25,890 --> 00:58:27,780 expires at the end of July. 964 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:34,290 Adam Curry: Now, this is a very shallow report. I dove into 965 00:58:34,290 --> 00:58:37,710 this. I like UPS. I like the guys and gals who drive ups, 966 00:58:37,860 --> 00:58:41,670 just our air conditioning Come on. Their whole system is built 967 00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:46,320 around their open SR open truck. These guys love it. They're not 968 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,890 looking for air conditioning. But they had a vote on something 969 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,990 a year and a half ago I think and even though 54% voted 970 00:58:55,710 --> 00:58:58,770 against accepting the contract at that point it was two years 971 00:58:58,770 --> 00:59:04,050 ago. Somehow some technicality in the rule said well, you've 972 00:59:04,050 --> 00:59:07,230 got to have three quarters of them have to be voting were some 973 00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:12,270 some they pulled some fast one on. But the real problem is most 974 00:59:12,270 --> 00:59:17,100 of these packages that nowadays are Amazon, Amazon packages. And 975 00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:21,000 all of this is outsourced to UPS and to FedEx when the United 976 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,230 States Postal Service which has its own problems related to 977 00:59:25,230 --> 00:59:28,410 technology and how how they're you know people are not getting 978 00:59:28,410 --> 00:59:31,080 paid anymore especially the rural carriers many of them 979 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,190 listen to no agenda. But with the UPS guys and gals, they 980 00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:38,610 they're outsourcing a lot of these Amazon packages to some 981 00:59:38,610 --> 00:59:42,270 dude and a Honda Civic to they're getting the gig economy 982 00:59:42,270 --> 00:59:46,410 workers who get paid much less you can get I think it's 21 or 983 00:59:46,410 --> 00:59:50,520 $22 an hour when you start with UPS including benefits you know, 984 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,270 retirement package, it was like truly, the blue collar is like 985 00:59:54,270 --> 00:59:58,080 Doug Hernan you know from King of Queens like this. This was no 986 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,530 college needed you can drive was a Good company, and now they're 987 01:00:01,530 --> 01:00:04,410 just undercutting everybody. I think if you're there for four 988 01:00:04,410 --> 01:00:09,810 years you make $40 an hour, or 45 is a good job, comparatively 989 01:00:09,810 --> 01:00:13,950 speaking. But they're what they're not saying is that UPS 990 01:00:13,950 --> 01:00:20,460 is just, you know, giving to Uber drivers. Basically. That's 991 01:00:20,490 --> 01:00:23,460 that's going to destroy these jobs. I think. 992 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,560 John C Dvorak: We'll I haven't looked into it. So I have no 993 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,890 idea what's really going on. We have Amazon trucks all over the 994 01:00:31,890 --> 01:00:33,330 place. Those things are a plague. 995 01:00:36,750 --> 01:00:39,300 Adam Curry: You're a plague get rid of I'm bringing the Honda 996 01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:39,930 Civics. 997 01:00:40,860 --> 01:00:44,550 John C Dvorak: And those are all operated by I think you've fed 998 01:00:44,550 --> 01:00:48,960 UPS may own some of them. These are the subcontractors that 999 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,280 nobody you've seen Amazon truck and you say, well, it's some 1000 01:00:53,370 --> 01:00:57,870 guy. Independent guy bought a truck? No. They tend to be part 1001 01:00:57,870 --> 01:01:02,220 of a team of trucks at some one company, a small delivery 1002 01:01:02,220 --> 01:01:07,830 company that has bought 25 trucks. No a UPS trucks. No 1003 01:01:07,860 --> 01:01:08,430 Amazon. 1004 01:01:08,879 --> 01:01:11,789 Adam Curry: Oh, Amazon. Yeah. Well, I think the future for 1005 01:01:11,789 --> 01:01:15,449 this upcoming for the Zoomer generation is you will have a 1006 01:01:15,449 --> 01:01:18,689 Honda Civic. You will live in your Honda Civic because you 1007 01:01:18,689 --> 01:01:21,419 can't afford to live anywhere else. You'll be driving Uber 1008 01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:28,619 Uber Eats. Ups. You'll have your your spatial computing with your 1009 01:01:28,649 --> 01:01:31,709 your apple vision Pro. That's the future. 1010 01:01:33,210 --> 01:01:37,680 John C Dvorak: That's gonna be a delivery van. You'll be happy. 1011 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:39,690 Caught in the back. 1012 01:01:40,379 --> 01:01:41,189 Unknown: Exactly. 1013 01:01:41,339 --> 01:01:42,719 Adam Curry: I can totally see that 1014 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,210 John C Dvorak: dystopian view of things, but yeah, it's elements 1015 01:01:48,210 --> 01:01:49,410 of that. Taking 1016 01:01:49,410 --> 01:01:50,970 Adam Curry: place. We're moving that we're moving in that 1017 01:01:50,970 --> 01:01:53,010 direction, it seems seems clear. 1018 01:01:55,230 --> 01:01:56,640 Unknown: Bill Gates went to China. 1019 01:01:56,970 --> 01:02:02,040 Adam Curry: Yeah, he did. He was he looked really autistic. 1020 01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:04,980 Unknown: No, he is autistic. 1021 01:02:05,010 --> 01:02:06,870 Adam Curry: I know, but he looked really autistic. Now in 1022 01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:07,590 that chair. 1023 01:02:09,030 --> 01:02:11,040 John C Dvorak: Though, here's the reason why the NTD did 1024 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,580 probably we'll have to say NTD would do the best job reporting 1025 01:02:14,610 --> 01:02:18,360 on this. Oops, sorry. I had it. And so let's start with the NTD 1026 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,090 reports. And it goes into an analysis. That's interesting. 1027 01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:23,580 Adam Curry: I'm looking for an 1028 01:02:23,610 --> 01:02:25,260 Unknown: okay gates in China. 1029 01:02:25,290 --> 01:02:29,040 One Microsoft's co founder Bill Gates, that was Chinese leader 1030 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,730 Xi Jinping on Friday. This comes just one day after the Gates 1031 01:02:32,730 --> 01:02:37,500 Foundation pledged a $50 million donation to a Chinese Medical 1032 01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:40,800 Research Institute. The meeting took place at Beijing's 1033 01:02:40,830 --> 01:02:44,430 Diaoyutai state guesthouse, a diplomatic complex used to house 1034 01:02:44,430 --> 01:02:48,840 foreign dignitaries. She called gates an old friend saying that 1035 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,160 he was happy to see the business magnate after three years. Gates 1036 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,210 on the same token said he was honored to meet with Xi, adding 1037 01:02:57,210 --> 01:03:00,840 that there's a lot of important topics to discuss. The Chinese 1038 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,720 medical research institute that's receiving the grant is 1039 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:08,280 called a GH DDI. It was first established in 2016. With the 1040 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,210 help of the Gates Foundation, China's elite Qi university and 1041 01:03:12,210 --> 01:03:15,810 the city of Beijing. The $50 million from the Bill and 1042 01:03:15,810 --> 01:03:19,260 Melinda Gates Foundation is slated to bolster its drug 1043 01:03:19,260 --> 01:03:23,730 research capacity over the next five years. Gates his connection 1044 01:03:23,730 --> 01:03:28,230 with Beijing goes beyond GH DDI. Microsoft has been in China for 1045 01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:32,640 more than 30 years, and has a large research center there. Its 1046 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,330 web portal Bing is the only China accessible foreign search 1047 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,440 engine. As the regime tightens its grip on the nation's digital 1048 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,610 sector beings search results on a number of sensitive topics 1049 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,990 have been censored cybersecurity Research Group Citizen Lab found 1050 01:03:48,990 --> 01:03:52,650 that Bing also restricts certain Chinese search results for us 1051 01:03:52,650 --> 01:03:53,430 users 1052 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,100 Adam Curry: not to be confused with being at.io. 1053 01:03:58,350 --> 01:04:01,500 John C Dvorak: No, not to be confused. no censorship there. 1054 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,010 So I didn't know that being censored is stuff that you if 1055 01:04:05,010 --> 01:04:07,920 you let us being here in the US of A you're gonna get you're not 1056 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,140 gonna get your Chinese information very accurately. 1057 01:04:10,170 --> 01:04:12,810 Adam Curry: Well, that doesn't surprise me. I don't trust any 1058 01:04:12,810 --> 01:04:13,560 search engine. 1059 01:04:14,790 --> 01:04:17,400 Unknown: surprises me. Or two, 1060 01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:19,080 Adam Curry: do you use Bing regularly? 1061 01:04:19,980 --> 01:04:21,090 Unknown: I use DuckDuckGo. 1062 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,140 Worth noting it's rare for a Chinese leader to meet with a 1063 01:04:25,140 --> 01:04:29,670 foreign business leader. Just recently Apple CEO Tim Cook, and 1064 01:04:29,670 --> 01:04:34,950 Tesla CEO Elon Musk both visited China, but Gates is the only one 1065 01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:36,780 who got to meet with Xi Jinping. 1066 01:04:37,230 --> 01:04:41,040 Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. No, go. Didn't 1067 01:04:41,070 --> 01:04:43,770 McCrone. McCrone got to meet him. McCrone 1068 01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:46,859 Unknown: but the point was they are business leaders don't get 1069 01:04:46,859 --> 01:04:49,439 to meet with him. I agree. Crozet leaders McCrone Yeah. 1070 01:04:49,469 --> 01:04:54,989 Macron is just a crony so interesting. Tim Cook got 1071 01:04:54,989 --> 01:04:58,379 stiffed and so didn't Elon Elon 1072 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,770 John C Dvorak: today brought this guy on who do wrote the 1073 01:05:01,770 --> 01:05:07,140 book wireless wars, who's an analyst and he goes off to 1074 01:05:07,140 --> 01:05:11,880 discuss interpretations of what's really going on with 1075 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,570 gates and the fact that it appears that a geisha selling 1076 01:05:15,570 --> 01:05:18,570 out the United States is you want me to go to China to clip 1077 01:05:18,570 --> 01:05:23,280 four clips, three clips, three giant, I put four is got 1078 01:05:23,310 --> 01:05:25,800 wireless words that to remove I forgot to put on a clip to 1079 01:05:26,220 --> 01:05:29,400 remind me who to say this guy was alright, so here we go. So 1080 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:29,610 Bill 1081 01:05:29,610 --> 01:05:31,860 Unknown: Gates is in China, he met with Xi Jinping, who 1082 01:05:31,860 --> 01:05:35,280 actually called him his first American friend that he met in 1083 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,060 Beijing. What do you make of this close relationship, though? 1084 01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:44,130 A friend of China is a term that is not actually complimentary 1085 01:05:44,130 --> 01:05:46,800 term a friend of China is someone who is on board with 1086 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,060 China's objectives and goals is aligned is in harmony with what 1087 01:05:51,060 --> 01:05:54,900 China is trying to achieve when it's just the ego stroking and 1088 01:05:54,900 --> 01:05:58,350 the alignment, which is probably what the case is with Bill 1089 01:05:58,350 --> 01:06:04,230 Gates. They become a friend of China. And it's, it's sad, it's 1090 01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:07,950 not necessarily a good thing, because when you look at who 1091 01:06:07,950 --> 01:06:11,130 you're aligning yourself with, it's really a friend of the CCP 1092 01:06:11,130 --> 01:06:13,290 is what they mean not a friend to the Chinese people. 1093 01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:21,810 Adam Curry: By the way, duck, duck go. They say we largely 1094 01:06:21,810 --> 01:06:23,010 source from Bing. 1095 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,420 Unknown: Yeah, well, it's probably true. But the word 1096 01:06:27,420 --> 01:06:29,730 largely as the CO operative. Yeah. And 1097 01:06:29,730 --> 01:06:34,170 Adam Curry: the rest is Wikipedia. Oh, that sounds good. 1098 01:06:35,460 --> 01:06:37,440 Unknown: I think they get a lot of stuff from Google, even 1099 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:38,820 though like I'm sure they 1100 01:06:38,820 --> 01:06:41,460 Adam Curry: do and TripAdvisor music Max. 1101 01:06:46,590 --> 01:06:48,690 Okay, so he's friends with CCP. 1102 01:06:49,020 --> 01:06:51,480 John C Dvorak: Yeah, just as gay. So let's go to clip four 1103 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,320 when you wrap this. 1104 01:06:52,620 --> 01:06:55,320 Unknown: And on that note, it seems China has been rolling out 1105 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,590 this red carpet for businesses, especially business leaders. We 1106 01:06:58,590 --> 01:07:02,880 saw Elon Musk there, Jamie Dimon with JPMorgan Chase, and then 1107 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,970 giving kind of the cold shoulder to the White House. What do you 1108 01:07:05,970 --> 01:07:09,120 make of that kind of message coming out of China? 1109 01:07:09,780 --> 01:07:13,680 It's kind of a funny thing. They know, they've always known that 1110 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,470 the businesses and capitalist societies are there to make 1111 01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:19,830 profits. The government side is just very different. It's not 1112 01:07:19,830 --> 01:07:23,490 pursuing even though commerce wants growing markets for 1113 01:07:23,490 --> 01:07:29,010 American suppliers and good markets. For vendors to America. 1114 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,460 There's a very different agenda for the for the government. 1115 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,420 Adam Curry: Right, so how are they going to square that with 1116 01:07:36,450 --> 01:07:40,380 with our I mean, the business of America is business. How are 1117 01:07:40,380 --> 01:07:43,440 they going to square this saber rattling? They're doing I have a 1118 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,240 clip about China. I 1119 01:07:45,390 --> 01:07:48,030 John C Dvorak: will play that clip. But for i But to answer 1120 01:07:48,030 --> 01:07:50,490 your question, I think that they're not going to square it. 1121 01:07:51,210 --> 01:07:53,250 I think this situation is going to worsen. 1122 01:07:53,940 --> 01:07:56,490 Adam Curry: That doesn't sound like a smart idea. While this is 1123 01:07:56,490 --> 01:07:59,310 similar to something you played on the last show, I think short. 1124 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,520 Unknown: Overseas tonight a high stakes diplomatic mission to 1125 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:06,180 China for a Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Blinken is 1126 01:08:06,180 --> 01:08:08,610 expected to meet with several Chinese officials over the 1127 01:08:08,610 --> 01:08:11,400 weekend. He's the first Secretary of State to make the 1128 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,790 trip in five years. And President Biden saying today 1129 01:08:14,790 --> 01:08:18,330 that he's hoping to meet with China's President Xi soon is 1130 01:08:18,330 --> 01:08:21,540 coming amid escalating tensions between the two countries. 1131 01:08:22,260 --> 01:08:26,130 Adam Curry: So the Biden administration is just going to 1132 01:08:26,580 --> 01:08:30,150 let all these companies rot like Nah, we're just gonna do 1133 01:08:30,150 --> 01:08:32,790 whatever we need to do and screw you with your business. 1134 01:08:35,220 --> 01:08:38,040 John C Dvorak: Well, this other guy, this, this wireless 1135 01:08:39,660 --> 01:08:41,100 Adam Curry: wired wars guider, 1136 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,600 John C Dvorak: he goes on about the supply chain issues that are 1137 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,500 going to happen. It was just, it's hard to just all of a 1138 01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:52,590 sudden, I mean, theoretically, you should just say, Well, screw 1139 01:08:52,590 --> 01:08:55,410 China, they're useless. I stopped doing business with him. 1140 01:08:55,410 --> 01:09:01,230 But the problem is everything for the last 25 or 30 years, has 1141 01:09:01,230 --> 01:09:05,880 got China components or this made in China or no, we're not 1142 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,090 pretending that we did it but it's actually Chinese and we 1143 01:09:09,090 --> 01:09:15,300 brought it over. We don't I mean, you know, the one of the 1144 01:09:15,300 --> 01:09:19,260 best things I've heard recently is listening to Gavin Newsom. 1145 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:20,940 Adam Curry: Sean Hannity. 1146 01:09:21,330 --> 01:09:25,350 John C Dvorak: On Hannity. Yeah. Did you get Hannity? No, I don't 1147 01:09:25,350 --> 01:09:29,130 have any clips. I didn't want to get clips of that. I Hannity was 1148 01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:35,700 flat footed. And Newsom was just lording it over him and making 1149 01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:41,100 it sound like California is the fastest growing juggernaut of a 1150 01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:43,980 state and he because he had all these stats, you know, 1151 01:09:43,980 --> 01:09:48,570 statistics lie. So you is like saying the crime rates in San 1152 01:09:48,570 --> 01:09:53,670 Francisco have gone way down. And you can find stats 1153 01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:55,770 Adam Curry: where they have because the businesses are all 1154 01:09:55,770 --> 01:09:57,180 gone. So how can just nothing 1155 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,510 John C Dvorak: So they have so you have this situation. And so 1156 01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:09,870 there's an element of denialism about China, and how they pretty 1157 01:10:09,870 --> 01:10:12,810 much own the United States. And so far as the supply chain is 1158 01:10:12,810 --> 01:10:16,470 concerned, and there's nothing we can do about it, nothing 1159 01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:19,020 because we can't crank all this stuff up, but we do. We I think 1160 01:10:19,020 --> 01:10:22,650 we've lost the skill sets that the Chinese have been developing 1161 01:10:22,650 --> 01:10:25,320 the manufacturing that we, you know, we don't, right, but 1162 01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:27,690 Adam Curry: I just don't understand they're 1163 01:10:27,690 --> 01:10:30,120 John C Dvorak: learning about emotions. They're not learning 1164 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,500 how to be a machinist. 1165 01:10:31,860 --> 01:10:34,350 Adam Curry: So you're telling me that all this saber rattling 1166 01:10:34,350 --> 01:10:37,710 that we're doing, which is clearly going to hurt American 1167 01:10:37,710 --> 01:10:40,830 business is purely to keep the power of the White House and 1168 01:10:40,830 --> 01:10:44,490 what I mean? What else? What other reason is there for them 1169 01:10:44,490 --> 01:10:49,500 to do this? I can't think of any, because it just it makes no 1170 01:10:49,500 --> 01:10:54,540 sense. No, is it all just ego? 1171 01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,450 John C Dvorak: And as to be, or naivete we have to remember you 1172 01:11:00,450 --> 01:11:02,790 have a President of the United States has never worked a day in 1173 01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:06,240 his life. He's never worked in a factory. He's never worked on an 1174 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,000 assembly line. He's never worked as a carpenter. He wasn't 1175 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:13,380 building houses. He wasn't in a shag metal shop. You got Harry 1176 01:11:13,380 --> 01:11:16,620 wasn't even a paperboy from all I can tell was a lifeguard 1177 01:11:16,620 --> 01:11:21,450 Adam Curry: he has hairy legs. Yeah, he got beat up corn pop. 1178 01:11:23,130 --> 01:11:26,580 Well, actually, the ego thing there may be something to it. 1179 01:11:26,580 --> 01:11:32,100 This is short clip. This is a Korean John Claude Van Damme 1180 01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:36,930 Pierre being interviewed because of course, that's what this is 1181 01:11:36,930 --> 01:11:41,070 how Saki ended when they start doing interviews in there with 1182 01:11:41,070 --> 01:11:45,210 you know, with just as somehow it's kind of sickening for the 1183 01:11:45,210 --> 01:11:50,700 press. What was it called? He spoke tolls are we call them but 1184 01:11:50,700 --> 01:11:51,210 what is it 1185 01:11:51,420 --> 01:11:52,980 Unknown: press secretary press secretary, 1186 01:11:52,980 --> 01:11:55,470 Adam Curry: secretary press secretary to be doing interviews 1187 01:11:55,470 --> 01:11:58,470 about themselves. It's something that just isn't something you 1188 01:11:58,470 --> 01:11:59,370 just don't do. 1189 01:11:59,670 --> 01:12:03,090 John C Dvorak: Maybe it's exactly what you think, ego, 1190 01:12:03,090 --> 01:12:06,270 which is that this is the strategy to get rid of her. I 1191 01:12:06,270 --> 01:12:09,330 mean, you said sock, he started doing this again. Yeah, well, 1192 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,470 okay. This might be the end for I think she's already violated 1193 01:12:13,470 --> 01:12:16,410 the Hatch Act. We haven't talked about that on the show. Explain 1194 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,300 the Hatch Act. It says that, as a government worker, you cannot 1195 01:12:21,450 --> 01:12:25,470 take part in partisan politics, right. So in other words, if 1196 01:12:25,470 --> 01:12:28,230 you're working for the State Department, you can start 1197 01:12:28,230 --> 01:12:32,070 stamping letters and get reelected as Joe Biden and you 1198 01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:34,620 can add dressing envelopes and sending them off while you're 1199 01:12:34,620 --> 01:12:38,610 working there. And she violated the Hatch Act about I don't know 1200 01:12:38,610 --> 01:12:42,630 two or three weeks ago, when she went off on Magga Republicans 1201 01:12:42,630 --> 01:12:47,730 met Megan Magadan, blah, blah. She went on off on it and 1202 01:12:47,730 --> 01:12:51,090 somebody realized that this was a violation of the Hass Hatch 1203 01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:51,990 Act she was doing. 1204 01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,270 Adam Curry: I have I have it here. I have a clip he 1205 01:12:54,270 --> 01:12:56,730 Unknown: has been clear democracy is under assault, and 1206 01:12:56,730 --> 01:13:00,780 we cannot pretend otherwise. The President will continue to call 1207 01:13:00,780 --> 01:13:03,960 attention to the threat to democracy, democratic integrity, 1208 01:13:04,440 --> 01:13:09,090 and to public safety posed by those who deny the documented 1209 01:13:09,090 --> 01:13:13,410 truth about election results, and those who seek to undermine 1210 01:13:13,740 --> 01:13:17,580 public faith in our system of government. Unfortunately, we 1211 01:13:17,580 --> 01:13:22,200 have seen mega mega Republican officials who don't believe in 1212 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,460 the rule of law. They refuse to accept the results of free and 1213 01:13:26,460 --> 01:13:27,450 fair elections. 1214 01:13:27,480 --> 01:13:30,240 Adam Curry: That was it that was the violation of the Hatch Act, 1215 01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:33,510 John C Dvorak: then that was a clear violation of the Hatch 1216 01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:37,710 Act. And she should have been then they know it they don't 1217 01:13:37,710 --> 01:13:41,160 know what to do about it. They should find her or fire her or 1218 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,040 something should be done. But again, you know, they don't know 1219 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,010 what to do because oh god what are we going to do is so you 1220 01:13:47,010 --> 01:13:48,000 can't you can't fire 1221 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,250 Adam Curry: her she marks he checks off too many boxes. 1222 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:51,090 There's no way 1223 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,570 John C Dvorak: she'd have to hire a lesbian My God well, 1224 01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:58,620 black lesbian. Hello. Wait, black lesbian is so rare, he or 1225 01:13:58,620 --> 01:13:59,820 she is her 21 1226 01:13:59,820 --> 01:14:02,940 Adam Curry: second to reply about how well you'll hear it a 1227 01:14:02,940 --> 01:14:05,670 Unknown: year in this role. There's been a couple of things 1228 01:14:05,670 --> 01:14:09,210 that I that has made me incredibly proud many things 1229 01:14:09,210 --> 01:14:11,850 many things have made me incredibly proud to be at that 1230 01:14:11,850 --> 01:14:14,730 podium during this historic moment. Again, this is a 1231 01:14:14,730 --> 01:14:17,820 historic administration. I'm a historic figure and I this 1232 01:14:18,180 --> 01:14:22,230 glossary everyday but this is also the historic making 1233 01:14:22,230 --> 01:14:23,490 administration because of this 1234 01:14:23,490 --> 01:14:25,830 Adam Curry: president I'm a historic person 1235 01:14:27,150 --> 01:14:29,610 John C Dvorak: that is unprecedented okay, you get a 1236 01:14:29,610 --> 01:14:30,600 clip of the day for that. 1237 01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:33,360 Adam Curry: Oh, thank you if she is a historic person everybody 1238 01:14:35,340 --> 01:14:39,720 John C Dvorak: unbelievable what an ego test okay, so she's this 1239 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:46,860 big historic person because she's a black lesbian. Okay, 1240 01:14:47,460 --> 01:14:49,590 from Haiti or wherever the hell she's from. 1241 01:14:49,620 --> 01:14:53,040 Adam Curry: Yes. Someone sent me a 1242 01:14:53,940 --> 01:14:55,830 John C Dvorak: anyway by the way she but she's in violation of 1243 01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:59,040 the Hatch Act she should be terminated continue to terminate 1244 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,570 terminate. Ah, terminate. 1245 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:05,400 Adam Curry: Someone sent me a passage from 1984. The who 1246 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,980 doesn't know it the book by George Orwell. I think a lot of 1247 01:15:07,980 --> 01:15:09,900 people know the book, but I don't know how many people 1248 01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:10,800 actually read it. 1249 01:15:11,190 --> 01:15:13,530 John C Dvorak: Great book to read, I would recommend reading 1250 01:15:13,530 --> 01:15:16,560 it. I would say there's a number of books. I would say reading 1251 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,280 that in the Huxley book is another book you must read. Yes. 1252 01:15:20,340 --> 01:15:24,030 Which is what is it called? I can't even remember. Brave New 1253 01:15:24,030 --> 01:15:29,280 World. Brave New World is much read 1984 is a must must Neopost 1254 01:15:29,310 --> 01:15:31,860 Adam Curry: amusing ourselves to death would also be another one. 1255 01:15:31,860 --> 01:15:34,140 It's all in no agenda book. club.com I think is where we 1256 01:15:34,140 --> 01:15:34,740 have all of these. 1257 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,590 John C Dvorak: And I would say if you don't want to read the 1258 01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:41,310 1984 book, The movie is good too. In fact, the movie may be 1259 01:15:41,310 --> 01:15:41,880 creepier. 1260 01:15:42,780 --> 01:15:45,990 Adam Curry: From the book, the protagonist Winston Smith says 1261 01:15:46,740 --> 01:15:49,560 they had played a similar trick with the instinct of parenthood, 1262 01:15:49,740 --> 01:15:52,620 the family could not actually be abolished, and indeed, people 1263 01:15:52,620 --> 01:15:55,620 were encouraged to be fond of their children in almost the old 1264 01:15:55,620 --> 01:15:58,260 fashioned way. The children on the other hand, were 1265 01:15:58,260 --> 01:16:01,530 systematically turned against their parents and taught to spy 1266 01:16:01,530 --> 01:16:04,830 on them and report their deviations. The family had 1267 01:16:04,830 --> 01:16:08,850 become an effect an extension of the thought police pronouns 1268 01:16:08,850 --> 01:16:13,650 anyone, the antagonist O'Brien. We have cut the links between 1269 01:16:13,650 --> 01:16:16,590 child and parent and between man and man and between man and 1270 01:16:16,590 --> 01:16:20,070 woman, no one dares trust a wife or child or friend any longer, 1271 01:16:20,220 --> 01:16:22,860 but in the future, there will be no wives and no friends children 1272 01:16:22,860 --> 01:16:25,860 will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from 1273 01:16:25,860 --> 01:16:29,700 a hen the sex instincts will be eradicated. Procreation will be 1274 01:16:29,700 --> 01:16:32,970 an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We 1275 01:16:32,970 --> 01:16:36,570 shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are working on it 1276 01:16:36,570 --> 01:16:40,320 right now. Telo Elam, there will be no loyalty except loyalty 1277 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,750 towards the party. There'll be no love except the love of Big 1278 01:16:42,750 --> 01:16:45,990 Brother. There'll be no laughter except the laugh of triumph over 1279 01:16:45,990 --> 01:16:49,380 a defeated enemy Maga. There will be no art no literature, no 1280 01:16:49,380 --> 01:16:52,320 science, when we are omnipotent, we shall have no more need of 1281 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,690 science, there'll be no distinction between beauty and 1282 01:16:54,690 --> 01:17:00,570 ugliness. Sound familiar? Now let's get to work on these 1283 01:17:00,570 --> 01:17:03,780 children really early and disrupt the relationship between 1284 01:17:03,780 --> 01:17:07,710 the children and the parents. Let's get on with the baby bears 1285 01:17:07,710 --> 01:17:15,900 on the Cartoon Network. This is for young kids. Jared Winnie Hey 1286 01:17:15,900 --> 01:17:22,680 there, Ryan the great Winifred she extraordinaire 1287 01:17:26,940 --> 01:17:28,110 Unknown: are also the 1288 01:17:28,110 --> 01:17:31,560 new addition box they use they them pronouns 1289 01:17:32,099 --> 01:17:38,579 Adam Curry: they give exceptionally good quiche box 1290 01:17:39,119 --> 01:17:45,209 they then pronouns This is not okay. 1291 01:17:45,810 --> 01:17:49,800 John C Dvorak: No, that's good. There's another good clip not 1292 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:53,310 Adam Curry: okay. And so, you know, states are cracking down 1293 01:17:53,310 --> 01:17:57,180 on it Florida. It's certainly just for young children. There's 1294 01:17:58,170 --> 01:18:00,450 parents should have the right to determine what their what their 1295 01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:04,020 what their children are learning in school. This is of course not 1296 01:18:04,140 --> 01:18:10,380 the the Scholastic opinion and teachers are quitting now. This 1297 01:18:10,380 --> 01:18:11,520 is a report from NBC 1298 01:18:11,550 --> 01:18:13,770 Unknown: on the same day that high school English teacher 1299 01:18:13,770 --> 01:18:17,400 Emily Ramseur won an award for being an outstanding Texas 1300 01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:21,060 educator. She stood in front of the grapevine Colleyville school 1301 01:18:21,060 --> 01:18:24,120 district to tell them why she was among dozens of staff 1302 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:25,980 members resigning this year. 1303 01:18:26,250 --> 01:18:29,640 This community has continuously harassed me for the past few 1304 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,340 years, to the point that there were days I didn't even want to 1305 01:18:32,340 --> 01:18:36,060 be alive anymore, much less be a teacher. So I'm going to listen 1306 01:18:36,060 --> 01:18:39,450 to what I am hearing from this community. Which is that y'all 1307 01:18:39,450 --> 01:18:43,320 don't want people like me, people who might be gay to teach 1308 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:43,710 here. 1309 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,830 School districts across the country are facing a teacher 1310 01:18:46,830 --> 01:18:50,910 shortage fueled by burnout and low pay. But in Texas, Many 1311 01:18:50,910 --> 01:18:55,500 blame politics. Last year rams those districts saw a 40% jump 1312 01:18:55,500 --> 01:18:58,650 in resignations and retirements. After new conservative school 1313 01:18:58,650 --> 01:19:02,070 board members pushed to remove hundreds of books and restrict 1314 01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:04,890 lessons about race and LGBTQ identities. 1315 01:19:05,490 --> 01:19:09,510 I've taught these kids for years to write and to grow their 1316 01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:12,540 voices. And I'm not going to let my actions say something 1317 01:19:12,540 --> 01:19:13,080 different. 1318 01:19:13,770 --> 01:19:17,400 Ramseur who identifies as queer, so she was asked to change some 1319 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,520 of her lessons and to remove classroom artwork and rainbow 1320 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:21,270 stickers. 1321 01:19:22,530 --> 01:19:25,320 Adam Curry: So what's sad about this type of reporting is the 1322 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:29,610 way they bring it is they they make it sound like there's 1323 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:30,810 hatred against 1324 01:19:31,230 --> 01:19:33,960 John C Dvorak: your sympathetic toward the poor, almost gay 1325 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,920 teacher and whatever pain area whatever she is, who's crying on 1326 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:42,300 the screen. He's crying on the on the set. And, yeah, that's 1327 01:19:42,300 --> 01:19:45,300 the way it's presented. It's slanted presentation. Classic 1328 01:19:45,300 --> 01:19:48,390 news. Yeah. Which has a perspective. 1329 01:19:49,020 --> 01:19:52,500 Adam Curry: They bring in politics, of course, and this is 1330 01:19:52,500 --> 01:19:54,240 the this is the poison she 1331 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,630 John C Dvorak: had to take her stickers down on her. And they 1332 01:19:57,630 --> 01:20:00,210 banned and the book banning and there was generalized So it 1333 01:20:00,210 --> 01:20:02,760 sounds like they're banning, you know, everything. 1334 01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:06,000 Adam Curry: Yes. And so this is political. And it's obvious. You 1335 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,630 know, it's Texas and I talk about laws. And what this hat 1336 01:20:09,630 --> 01:20:13,050 what happens is with the under educated over socialized 1337 01:20:13,050 --> 01:20:16,290 individuals that the entire world is full of this is not 1338 01:20:16,290 --> 01:20:21,060 just America, but it's really prevalent here. You get, you get 1339 01:20:22,140 --> 01:20:27,540 people really believing that they are hated. I mean, that's 1340 01:20:27,540 --> 01:20:30,630 what she said, you know, they, they don't like people like me. 1341 01:20:31,020 --> 01:20:33,930 I don't think that's ever been said. It's like, you know, she 1342 01:20:33,930 --> 01:20:36,840 actually said in that clip, I'm here to teach the children had a 1343 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,080 right and to grow their voices. What No, you're not here to grow 1344 01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:45,030 their voices. I disagree. That that's not what you're here to 1345 01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:50,490 do. But okay, grow your voices. They just it turns into the 1346 01:20:50,490 --> 01:20:54,930 second grader. It turns into the need, it turns into this 1347 01:20:54,930 --> 01:20:59,580 horrible hatred for each other. And I mean, this clip on C span 1348 01:20:59,610 --> 01:21:06,300 Washington journal really exemplifies poor news reporting, 1349 01:21:06,300 --> 01:21:08,550 or I shouldn't say poor it's actually excellent news. What 1350 01:21:08,550 --> 01:21:12,600 they're doing on in the news, which is, in general, mainstream 1351 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:19,560 news is run by the Democrat Party of America. This is what 1352 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:23,100 they want. This is how they want to communicate it because it's 1353 01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:26,730 going to get more of America sympathetic to vote Democrat. I 1354 01:21:26,730 --> 01:21:29,400 guess that's the idea. And this is the result of it. 1355 01:21:29,460 --> 01:21:33,390 Unknown: This is Laura Kelly. I believe in Galveston, Texas 1356 01:21:33,390 --> 01:21:34,980 independent Good morning. 1357 01:21:37,020 --> 01:21:41,520 In their morning, there, I'm just gonna say that, you know, 1358 01:21:41,580 --> 01:21:44,760 if I'm gonna be straight with you as I can be, I'm a lesbian 1359 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,000 so it's gonna be kind of hard but a wake up America, maybe 1360 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,780 Republicans are falling to not do it. They are Nazis. They're 1361 01:21:51,780 --> 01:21:55,140 calling for genocide on trans people like myself. Every year 1362 01:21:55,140 --> 01:21:57,720 to hear in the morning who's been calling so far has been 1363 01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,320 nothing but calls for my death. They have listening to good 1364 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,630 college, but most of the Republicans have been calling 1365 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,260 from my desk. They are saying I don't have a right now she does 1366 01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:10,710 the one corsets hit me over the head with brown pants. He is a 1367 01:22:10,710 --> 01:22:13,950 Nazi and he does not want me here. All right, well, 1368 01:22:13,950 --> 01:22:16,200 hold off on the Nazi references. This is Steven. 1369 01:22:17,370 --> 01:22:20,730 Adam Curry: Finally, you know, there's someone who is 1370 01:22:20,730 --> 01:22:25,140 convinced, convinced that Republicans are Nazis, all of 1371 01:22:25,140 --> 01:22:28,770 them and they want this person dead. And there's just no 1372 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,520 evidence of this. There's no evidence of it, but it's the way 1373 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,390 the News brings it. Like the battle brewing over trans 1374 01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:37,050 rights. 1375 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,120 Unknown: This morning. Columbus is preparing to welcome an 1376 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:43,140 estimated 700,000 people to his annual Pride Parade while a 1377 01:22:43,140 --> 01:22:46,140 battle is brewing just blocks away at all at the Ohio State 1378 01:22:46,140 --> 01:22:49,230 House over the future of trans rights fields. The Republican 1379 01:22:49,230 --> 01:22:51,990 controlled legislature is considering a number of bills 1380 01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:55,740 impacting trans youth, one called HB 68 would make it 1381 01:22:55,740 --> 01:22:58,680 illegal for doctors to provide gender affirming care for trans 1382 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,160 minors, including prescribing puberty blockers or hormones. 1383 01:23:02,220 --> 01:23:05,940 That one definitely concerns me considering I am actively on the 1384 01:23:05,940 --> 01:23:07,290 waiting list for getting puberty 1385 01:23:07,620 --> 01:23:11,190 blockers 11 year old Michael ferrea has identified as a boy 1386 01:23:11,190 --> 01:23:14,520 for years now his parents say puberty blockers are needed to 1387 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,370 essentially allow him to pause his development for now. 1388 01:23:17,460 --> 01:23:22,620 It makes me uncomfortable that I having to go through feminine 1389 01:23:22,620 --> 01:23:23,250 puberty 1390 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,920 I used to be 68 is to save adolescents from 1391 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,150 experimentation. 1392 01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:29,880 Republican state representative Gary click is the primary 1393 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,970 sponsor of this bill he also touted would ban doctors from 1394 01:23:32,970 --> 01:23:36,090 performing gender reassignment surgery on a minor something 1395 01:23:36,090 --> 01:23:38,430 opponents argue isn't happening in Ohio. 1396 01:23:38,519 --> 01:23:41,369 I've done a lot of research I've talked to a lot of professionals 1397 01:23:41,399 --> 01:23:45,569 on this our side gets ignored in this we have the science is 1398 01:23:45,570 --> 01:23:48,870 on our side, but the American Academy of Pediatrics now listen 1399 01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:50,820 Adam Curry: to this, listen to their studies and tell me what 1400 01:23:50,820 --> 01:23:54,120 the common thing is about the science the studies that they 1401 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:54,780 have published 1402 01:23:54,780 --> 01:23:57,240 Unknown: a study finding transgender teens who were given 1403 01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,600 puberty blockers experienced superior mental health outcomes 1404 01:24:00,750 --> 01:24:03,780 compared to those who wanted the medication but didn't receive 1405 01:24:03,780 --> 01:24:07,860 it. And a 2022 study concluded transgender and non binary youth 1406 01:24:07,860 --> 01:24:11,790 with access to gender affirming care had 60% lower odds of 1407 01:24:11,790 --> 01:24:13,560 moderate or severe depression. 1408 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,410 I certainly wish them the best and all of you I love these 1409 01:24:16,410 --> 01:24:19,050 kids. I care about these kids. And I'm not trying to run 1410 01:24:19,050 --> 01:24:19,860 people's lives. 1411 01:24:19,950 --> 01:24:24,510 The furries have accepted that HB 68 may become law. They say 1412 01:24:24,510 --> 01:24:28,650 that's why for many in the LGBTQ community, this year's pride 1413 01:24:28,650 --> 01:24:31,170 celebration has turned into a call to action, 1414 01:24:31,349 --> 01:24:35,759 although it will hurt the trans community. It is not going to 1415 01:24:35,759 --> 01:24:41,609 make us D transition or just pop out of existence. I guess they 1416 01:24:41,609 --> 01:24:44,279 aren't necessarily getting rid of us. 1417 01:24:44,820 --> 01:24:48,480 Adam Curry: So there's another child being abused by the media 1418 01:24:49,710 --> 01:24:53,430 to be a spokesperson and the same message then no, we're not 1419 01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:56,580 going to disappear. They're not going to get rid of us. We're 1420 01:24:56,580 --> 01:25:00,000 not just going to go away. These are all very very hurtful. 1421 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,210 messages this child has been filled fed with. And all these 1422 01:25:03,210 --> 01:25:06,630 studies do not go back any further than 2019. That's the 1423 01:25:06,630 --> 01:25:11,370 oldest they have. And the science is clearly not settled 1424 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:16,440 on the long term effects and and just the words that are being 1425 01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:20,160 used battle, you know, Boch right to existence. All this 1426 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:24,750 stuff is bad. We have a number of, of emails, which I'm not 1427 01:25:24,750 --> 01:25:29,100 going to read, I've cleared it with. Well, with all of them to 1428 01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:32,160 put them in the show notes, I would say specifically read 1429 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:37,020 Alexa, who's trans producer of the no agenda show in Chechnya, 1430 01:25:37,260 --> 01:25:43,680 but who went through the same as, as now are our night who was 1431 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:49,830 a dame who D transitioned. And Alex is 40, you know, had to go 1432 01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:54,090 through almost three years, you know, at older at an older age 1433 01:25:54,090 --> 01:25:56,760 to be able to do all the transitioning the medical 1434 01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,450 transitioning, and agrees that it's insane what is happening 1435 01:26:00,450 --> 01:26:03,240 right now. And it's clearly happening for political reasons. 1436 01:26:05,130 --> 01:26:08,670 Another one from I think you read this one, the boots on the 1437 01:26:08,670 --> 01:26:11,970 ground fleeing California to save a child's life, you 1438 01:26:11,970 --> 01:26:15,060 probably read that one where this mother single mom 1439 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,590 completely went in all in the program in Berkeley, and her and 1440 01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:24,990 her st. Her son became, was identifying as a girl. And then 1441 01:26:25,020 --> 01:26:28,080 once they didn't want to accept the vaccine into the life, they 1442 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,930 were kicked out of the group, they were no good anymore. So 1443 01:26:30,930 --> 01:26:34,710 they left left for a new interesting coincidence. Yes. 1444 01:26:35,370 --> 01:26:40,590 You know, my body, right? Left for New England. And once you 1445 01:26:40,590 --> 01:26:46,620 know, away from the therapists, the the, the boy felt like a boy 1446 01:26:46,620 --> 01:26:47,040 again, 1447 01:26:47,070 --> 01:26:49,860 Unknown: and was like, Oh, he's playing football. Yeah. 1448 01:26:51,210 --> 01:26:53,610 Adam Curry: So those are in the show notes worth looking at just 1449 01:26:53,610 --> 01:26:57,150 as counterprogramming to all of this. But there's something 1450 01:26:57,150 --> 01:26:59,820 happened that I need to highlight because I give the 1451 01:26:59,820 --> 01:27:04,560 pivot people a lot of crap. And and actually, this has nothing 1452 01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,980 to do with Kara Swisher, because she is still a horrible person. 1453 01:27:07,980 --> 01:27:11,640 And I'm not going to play her retort to this. But Scott, 1454 01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:15,180 Professor Galloway, who I just in the last show called non 1455 01:27:15,180 --> 01:27:18,510 Ma'am, I have to say, I gotta give him props. He may be the 1456 01:27:18,510 --> 01:27:22,350 canary in the coal mine, he may be waking up, it seems like he 1457 01:27:22,350 --> 01:27:26,280 has his head screwed on right when it comes to trans athletes, 1458 01:27:26,310 --> 01:27:29,790 and I need to play this, just to balance out all the crap I give 1459 01:27:29,790 --> 01:27:30,150 them. 1460 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,760 Unknown: So I think the tweet was on the last step 1461 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,100 by saying first of all, you're not transphobic I thought this 1462 01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:37,800 was a stupid tweet, but you are not transphobic. Go ahead. 1463 01:27:38,850 --> 01:27:40,860 Go ahead. Go ahead. Thanks. 1464 01:27:42,450 --> 01:27:43,830 Wow, all you transphobic 1465 01:27:45,090 --> 01:27:47,340 Adam Curry: that's, that's exactly what she does. You know, 1466 01:27:47,790 --> 01:27:50,370 he sent out a tweet, and he got a lot of crap for it. And she'll 1467 01:27:50,370 --> 01:27:52,680 just, here's my opinion, here's my opinion. Here's my opinion. 1468 01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,290 Go ahead. I'm gonna play that again. So you can hear it in 1469 01:27:55,290 --> 01:27:56,460 context. So 1470 01:27:56,490 --> 01:27:58,320 Unknown: I think the tweet was on the last step 1471 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,660 by saying first of all, you're not transphobic I thought this 1472 01:28:00,660 --> 01:28:03,360 was a stupid tweet, but you are not transphobic. Go ahead. 1473 01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:05,820 Thanks, I'm 1474 01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,570 calling you transphobic. That was 1475 01:28:09,570 --> 01:28:13,590 a go to your transphobic. So Austin, kill UPS a trans woman 1476 01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:18,120 one, the Belgian waffle race on Saturday, that's 131 mile course 1477 01:28:18,180 --> 01:28:22,560 runs through the Blue Ridge Mountains. And the number two 1478 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:27,030 rider came in four and a half minutes behind her. And when my 1479 01:28:27,030 --> 01:28:31,350 tweet was, and I hope it'll get wrong, because obviously Twitter 1480 01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:35,940 isn't a place for nuance. I said that unless Democrats condemn 1481 01:28:36,060 --> 01:28:41,430 trans women athletes competing at elite at this elite level, it 1482 01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:46,470 will impair our ability to advocate for transgender rights. 1483 01:28:46,530 --> 01:28:50,910 Adam Curry: Now, notice here, he says Democrats just notice that 1484 01:28:50,910 --> 01:28:54,330 everything with these people is politically motivated. He says 1485 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,930 Democrats what he meant is liberals. But he said Democrats 1486 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,080 Unknown: and I think what's happening here care is that in 1487 01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:06,000 an attempt to be empathetic, and attempt to fight for the rights 1488 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,310 of a group that has been marginalized, and has been 1489 01:29:08,310 --> 01:29:13,620 persecuted. In my view, we have kind of lost our minds and 1490 01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:16,170 ideologically the snake is eating its own tail. Now, what 1491 01:29:16,170 --> 01:29:22,560 do I mean by that? If you think about male physiology, I mean, 1492 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,290 when it comes right down to is, is if you look at most studies 1493 01:29:25,290 --> 01:29:29,610 to summarize them, men are physically stronger. Women are 1494 01:29:29,850 --> 01:29:32,220 emotionally and mentally stronger, even at a childhood 1495 01:29:32,220 --> 01:29:36,630 age, like girls, girls can survive divorce, with much 1496 01:29:36,630 --> 01:29:39,720 better outcomes than boys. But anyways, there's just no 1497 01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:46,740 comparison. And what we have decided to do when we let people 1498 01:29:46,770 --> 01:29:52,530 who are born as males compete in these races after they have gone 1499 01:29:52,530 --> 01:29:56,730 through puberty where you pour testosterone over a bigger, 1500 01:29:56,730 --> 01:29:59,970 larger muscle mass and greater bone density and skeletal 1501 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,980 infrastructure. I think you end up with the misogyny. And that 1502 01:30:04,980 --> 01:30:09,750 is that the entire world of elite sports, all of the 1503 01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:13,740 camaraderie, all of the money, all of the scholarships, all of 1504 01:30:13,740 --> 01:30:16,770 the relevance, all of the accolades, the confidence, all 1505 01:30:16,770 --> 01:30:20,460 of these wonderful things are about to be slowly but surely 1506 01:30:20,460 --> 01:30:23,670 sequestered to one group. And that is people born with 1507 01:30:23,670 --> 01:30:28,410 penises, unless we have at a certain level involving money, 1508 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:33,480 and scholarships, unless we say, look, a lot are either born with 1509 01:30:33,480 --> 01:30:37,020 a vagina, or you're going to play or you're going to be in 1510 01:30:37,020 --> 01:30:41,220 another separate category. But the notion that we are going to 1511 01:30:41,220 --> 01:30:45,540 start having people with pets six foot five, and the wingspan 1512 01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:48,630 of Michael Phelps who by the way still have a penis and testicles 1513 01:30:48,930 --> 01:30:54,720 compete in the NC to a swim meet. This is nothing but us 1514 01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:58,500 going way too far in in a misguided attempt to say to get 1515 01:30:58,500 --> 01:31:02,220 our bone a fetus around progressiveness are hurting 1516 01:31:02,730 --> 01:31:04,980 women, and there needs to be some nuance here. 1517 01:31:05,039 --> 01:31:06,629 Okay, I get that. Go ahead. 1518 01:31:06,659 --> 01:31:10,199 Can I anyways, I just can immediately people start calling 1519 01:31:10,199 --> 01:31:13,649 you transphobic. They did. And I'm like, this isn't transphobic 1520 01:31:13,649 --> 01:31:17,069 you know, who I'm advocating for? Not only women, but I'm 1521 01:31:17,069 --> 01:31:20,969 advocating I believe our ability to advocate for the LGBTQ 1522 01:31:20,969 --> 01:31:25,079 community and the transgender community is diminished. Because 1523 01:31:25,079 --> 01:31:28,499 people people think, well, I this hateful transgender 1524 01:31:28,499 --> 01:31:32,129 legislation is ridiculous and stupid. But the Democrats have 1525 01:31:32,129 --> 01:31:33,509 lost their fucking minds. 1526 01:31:34,289 --> 01:31:37,889 Adam Curry: So yes, now the thing that was I don't have the 1527 01:31:37,889 --> 01:31:43,349 clip for you, because it just I can't. Kara Swisher then goes on 1528 01:31:43,349 --> 01:31:47,159 to say over eight minutes? Well, the difference is, you're a 1529 01:31:47,159 --> 01:31:51,689 Democrat, the Republicans, they really hate trans people, they 1530 01:31:51,689 --> 01:31:58,229 really hate the LGBT community. These people are so brainwashed, 1531 01:31:58,649 --> 01:32:01,679 that they don't believe the exact same words, you and I 1532 01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:03,209 could have both said this, who would have said it more 1533 01:32:03,209 --> 01:32:06,839 succinctly. And shorter. We could have said that. We said 1534 01:32:06,900 --> 01:32:09,540 John C Dvorak: we probably have said it. Yeah. And years ago. 1535 01:32:10,470 --> 01:32:13,590 Adam Curry: It's like, this makes no sense. You just can't 1536 01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:19,020 say that as someone who likes free speech, or is branded as, 1537 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,940 as a Republican or Magga. These people are some of the most 1538 01:32:23,940 --> 01:32:28,530 bigoted people in the world. And they really need to check 1539 01:32:28,530 --> 01:32:32,910 themselves, but good on Professor Scott. He Prof. G. I'm 1540 01:32:32,910 --> 01:32:38,850 sorry. He, he at least sees that this is not a good idea. I 1541 01:32:38,850 --> 01:32:40,320 thought that was a breakthrough. 1542 01:32:41,580 --> 01:32:48,450 Unknown: Yeah. It was a breakthrough breakthrough. 1543 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,570 Adam Curry: It was a breakthrough. Totally. He had a 1544 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,220 moment of clarity. 1545 01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,430 John C Dvorak: Hey, wait a minute, moment of clarity is not 1546 01:32:59,430 --> 01:33:00,210 a breakthrough. 1547 01:33:00,300 --> 01:33:01,770 Adam Curry: Okay. Good point. 1548 01:33:03,570 --> 01:33:05,820 John C Dvorak: I mean, the logic is there. I mean, I was 1549 01:33:05,820 --> 01:33:10,020 listening to care and TV news the other day and they and one 1550 01:33:10,020 --> 01:33:16,710 of the news readers just blurted out said, well, the transgender 1551 01:33:16,710 --> 01:33:20,910 athlete, they're saying it's they have a distinctive 1552 01:33:20,910 --> 01:33:25,080 advantage over the female athlete. Yeah. And then she's 1553 01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,060 just says there's no evidence of this. 1554 01:33:29,700 --> 01:33:33,420 Adam Curry: Yeah. They're so afraid of losing their job. 1555 01:33:34,530 --> 01:33:38,640 That's it. They're just afraid. But I don't 1556 01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:40,860 John C Dvorak: think so. I disagree with that. Again, I've 1557 01:33:40,860 --> 01:33:43,770 done this before with you on this particular topic. Where 1558 01:33:43,770 --> 01:33:47,430 it's not fear, it's sincerity. Well, they really believe this 1559 01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:47,880 stuff. 1560 01:33:48,690 --> 01:33:54,240 Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, okay. I think that if in fact, there was 1561 01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:54,900 a 1562 01:33:55,050 --> 01:33:56,520 John C Dvorak: Kara's not insincere. 1563 01:33:57,180 --> 01:34:00,030 Adam Curry: You're right. You're right. She's 1564 01:34:00,030 --> 01:34:02,640 Unknown: not she's not afraid. That's for sure. No, she's 1565 01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,940 Adam Curry: not well, she got money from her divorce. So she 1566 01:34:05,940 --> 01:34:10,470 got no problem there. It was, was that there was some study. 1567 01:34:11,370 --> 01:34:11,820 It's true. 1568 01:34:12,030 --> 01:34:15,420 Unknown: Something you always throw that little nut della jibe 1569 01:34:15,420 --> 01:34:15,990 in their ear. 1570 01:34:16,110 --> 01:34:18,960 Adam Curry: When you have money. Like you know, hey, let me sell 1571 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:23,100 curry.com for $10 million. Watch me go off the rails. Watch this 1572 01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:23,940 show change 1573 01:34:24,150 --> 01:34:25,380 Unknown: the show. It'd be great. 1574 01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:33,060 Adam Curry: Insulting everybody. I have no clips but lots of 1575 01:34:33,060 --> 01:34:39,690 stories in the UK. Headlines headlines headlines. Fresh 1576 01:34:39,690 --> 01:34:45,120 warning of deadly new virus surfaces. virus which kills one 1577 01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:49,620 person a second likely to be heading to UK scientists say 1578 01:34:50,940 --> 01:34:53,940 urgent warning after outbreak of one of the world's deadliest 1579 01:34:53,940 --> 01:34:59,250 diseases after man dies in Namibia and my favorite new 1580 01:34:59,250 --> 01:35:03,150 deadly virus is highly likely to arrive in the UK in latest 1581 01:35:03,150 --> 01:35:06,840 climate change warning. So now that headline, oh, there's your 1582 01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,080 connection. That's the one I like. So I'm like, What is this? 1583 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,290 Yeah, so I'll bring up this this is from the mirror, which is 1584 01:35:13,290 --> 01:35:14,760 another fine, outstanding. 1585 01:35:15,030 --> 01:35:17,940 Unknown: Another fine standing publication be proud 1586 01:35:17,940 --> 01:35:21,330 Adam Curry: of deadly virus that is killing nearly 50% of 1587 01:35:21,330 --> 01:35:25,050 patients is highly likely. That's that's your climate 1588 01:35:25,050 --> 01:35:28,680 change language to arrive in the UK, along with other illnesses 1589 01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:33,330 spread by insects, which are marching north due to climate 1590 01:35:33,330 --> 01:35:34,050 change. 1591 01:35:34,350 --> 01:35:36,630 John C Dvorak: The six are marching north from climate 1592 01:35:36,630 --> 01:35:36,990 change 1593 01:35:37,020 --> 01:35:39,270 Adam Curry: across across the English Channel even they're 1594 01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:41,520 just marching north. They're swimming, they're swimming. 1595 01:35:42,060 --> 01:35:44,010 John C Dvorak: It's a good movie for people out there want to see 1596 01:35:44,010 --> 01:35:47,400 something like this is also was a radio play. I think it's a 1597 01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:51,240 Roger, I think it's read you read your Kipling. Rudyard 1598 01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:56,340 Kipling. Yes. Called the naked the movies called the naked 1599 01:35:56,340 --> 01:36:01,500 jungle. Net is about. It's a great movie. It's about these 1600 01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:06,720 giant army ants marching north, eating everything in their way. 1601 01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:08,430 It's tyrannized film. 1602 01:36:08,460 --> 01:36:10,500 Adam Curry: Well, they're marching north towards the UK 1603 01:36:10,500 --> 01:36:13,560 and they're going to swim, apparently, now 1604 01:36:13,620 --> 01:36:16,440 John C Dvorak: as army ants. Yeah, they did. They had to swim 1605 01:36:16,440 --> 01:36:17,580 across the rivers. 1606 01:36:18,420 --> 01:36:21,270 Adam Curry: Well, the English Channel is not just a river. 1607 01:36:22,140 --> 01:36:25,620 Hey, get there. Let me tell you about this, about this disease. 1608 01:36:25,830 --> 01:36:27,240 It has a great name. They go through 1609 01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,820 John C Dvorak: the channel that they can just crawl crawl 1610 01:36:29,820 --> 01:36:33,390 across. They go through the channel. There you go. Yeah, no, 1611 01:36:33,390 --> 01:36:34,530 the who's gonna stop them. 1612 01:36:34,710 --> 01:36:41,280 Adam Curry: This is cchf cchf. It has a snappy acronym. And it 1613 01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:45,510 has everything you want in there. It's the Crimean Congo 1614 01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:50,040 hemorrhagic fever. So you've got a little bit of Russia in there, 1615 01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:51,750 you know, Crimea, Congo, Congo 1616 01:36:51,900 --> 01:36:55,200 John C Dvorak: hemorrhagic fever, which is a bola and more 1617 01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,680 fans I guess we're not Marfan says the other one Marburg, 1618 01:36:58,740 --> 01:37:03,090 Marburg, Marburg, Marburg are fences with Lincoln 1619 01:37:03,150 --> 01:37:04,230 Adam Curry: Francis Marburg, 1620 01:37:04,260 --> 01:37:07,380 John C Dvorak: you got that. You got Crimea, you got hemorrhagic 1621 01:37:07,380 --> 01:37:08,700 and Congo. Yep, you 1622 01:37:08,700 --> 01:37:11,820 Adam Curry: got it all. Wow, symptoms. Great moniker. 1623 01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,790 symptoms may include fever, muscle pains, headaches, and 1624 01:37:14,790 --> 01:37:19,110 John C Dvorak: it's caused by bugs. Yes, the same bugs, maybe 1625 01:37:19,140 --> 01:37:22,500 Adam Curry: the cchf virus is typically spread by tick bites, 1626 01:37:22,740 --> 01:37:26,430 or close contact with the blood secretions, organs, or other 1627 01:37:26,430 --> 01:37:30,240 bodily fluids of infected persons or animals. So, you 1628 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:34,290 know, like it spreads like monkey virus ticks. groups that 1629 01:37:34,290 --> 01:37:39,030 are at highest risk of infection are farmers. And those who work 1630 01:37:39,030 --> 01:37:42,390 in slaughterhouses the virus can also spread between people via 1631 01:37:42,420 --> 01:37:47,220 body fluids. Hello gays. You Thought Monkey virus was 1632 01:37:47,220 --> 01:37:51,450 interesting. diagnosis can be made by the 1633 01:37:51,510 --> 01:37:56,040 John C Dvorak: way you citing gays in this case. heterosexual 1634 01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,440 couples have body photos. No, 1635 01:37:58,889 --> 01:38:02,759 Adam Curry: no monkey monkey pox only went through between men 1636 01:38:02,759 --> 01:38:06,209 who have sex with men. Do I have to remind you of this fact fact. 1637 01:38:07,889 --> 01:38:14,279 Monkey virus only spread between men who have sex with men. Now 1638 01:38:14,279 --> 01:38:19,289 diagnosis can be made by detecting antibodies. The virus 1639 01:38:19,289 --> 01:38:28,499 is RNA. Hmm. Get in there, or viral proteins. So now of course 1640 01:38:28,499 --> 01:38:35,129 there are no FDA or who approved therapeutics yet. No, no, no, we 1641 01:38:35,129 --> 01:38:37,109 can't have therapeutics. You gotta get a vaccine. If there's 1642 01:38:37,109 --> 01:38:38,699 therapeutic you can't have it. Well, 1643 01:38:38,700 --> 01:38:41,070 John C Dvorak: I'm getting my things mixed up right 1644 01:38:41,070 --> 01:38:41,790 therapeutics are 1645 01:38:41,820 --> 01:38:45,900 Adam Curry: getting ahead of it getting ahead of it. In the past 1646 01:38:45,900 --> 01:38:50,790 20 years, cch F outbreaks have been reported in Eastern Europe, 1647 01:38:51,210 --> 01:38:53,790 particularly in the former Soviet Union. 1648 01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,540 Unknown: Bastards back bastards Civ Russians 1649 01:38:57,540 --> 01:39:02,220 Adam Curry: bastards. Yeah, this one's got legs. I think it's got 1650 01:39:02,220 --> 01:39:06,570 legs. There's no clips yet, but they're coming. They're coming. 1651 01:39:07,260 --> 01:39:11,580 Keep your eye on cchf. Jeff, 1652 01:39:12,660 --> 01:39:14,100 John C Dvorak: is when too many letters. 1653 01:39:14,130 --> 01:39:16,530 Adam Curry: I feel good about it. I do I feel good about this 1654 01:39:16,530 --> 01:39:21,540 one. It's one to many. I think Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever. 1655 01:39:21,540 --> 01:39:27,600 cchf I can just see it cchf Me in Congo hemorrhagic fever. 1656 01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:28,710 BCCH. 1657 01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:34,950 Cch can probably do that. I like it. I like it. It's got 1658 01:39:34,950 --> 01:39:39,600 everything in there. And you bleed out through your butt and 1659 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:40,380 your eyeballs. 1660 01:39:40,740 --> 01:39:42,300 John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that's you have to bleed out through 1661 01:39:42,300 --> 01:39:43,170 your eyeballs Yeah, 1662 01:39:43,620 --> 01:39:49,980 Adam Curry: otherwise it's just no good it's no good rather not 1663 01:39:49,980 --> 01:39:58,110 all right. All right. Do we have the mean I've got Russia. 1664 01:39:58,140 --> 01:40:00,510 Unknown: I got some Ukraine. I got low Ukraine. Yeah, 1665 01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,000 Adam Curry: let's do some I got some Ukraine stuff too 1666 01:40:03,060 --> 01:40:05,580 John C Dvorak: that this is the one that I only have two clips. 1667 01:40:05,580 --> 01:40:08,370 You can play the rest of them plays out with yours but 1668 01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:15,390 Adam Curry: Whoa, you okay, what happened there? Okay. Oh, we 1669 01:40:15,390 --> 01:40:21,210 have a podcaster down, John. Hello. Oh, what happened here 1670 01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:21,990 something happened. 1671 01:40:22,440 --> 01:40:23,310 Unknown: Test test test. 1672 01:40:23,340 --> 01:40:25,020 Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, let me see. 1673 01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:26,640 Unknown: Okay this should be good right here. 1674 01:40:27,090 --> 01:40:29,820 Adam Curry: Yes it's interesting I already got a Darren O'Neal 1675 01:40:29,820 --> 01:40:30,780 sent his resume. 1676 01:40:31,740 --> 01:40:32,190 Unknown: Yeah 1677 01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:36,510 yeah that bastard I knew he would 1678 01:40:38,220 --> 01:40:40,740 Adam Curry: like hey, man, I can do the show as easy as 1679 01:40:40,830 --> 01:40:41,700 Unknown: that they're ready. 1680 01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:47,040 Adam Curry: All right, Ukraine back to Ukraine clips. I'm glad 1681 01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,200 everything's okay. That always scares me a little. 1682 01:40:50,610 --> 01:40:52,410 John C Dvorak: It's kind of works in that it fell away. It 1683 01:40:52,440 --> 01:40:56,160 did. Yeah. But now I know that you reset the clean feed right 1684 01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,530 away. Okay. I wish you wouldn't have been off. I wouldn't have 1685 01:40:58,530 --> 01:41:00,180 been dead for two minutes instead of 1686 01:41:01,500 --> 01:41:03,540 Adam Curry: 30 seconds. Sorry. Well, it's all good. We're all 1687 01:41:03,540 --> 01:41:05,040 back to normal all systems. 1688 01:41:05,070 --> 01:41:08,370 John C Dvorak: Okay. This is really annoying. And this is the 1689 01:41:08,370 --> 01:41:13,350 push to NATO leaders. Sorry, talked a lot about your 1690 01:41:13,410 --> 01:41:14,070 Adam Curry: wish to NATO 1691 01:41:14,099 --> 01:41:17,339 Unknown: leaders from all 31 NATO member nations will hold 1692 01:41:17,339 --> 01:41:21,119 their annual summit next month in Vilnius, Lithuania. Ahead of 1693 01:41:21,119 --> 01:41:25,019 that some members and Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky are 1694 01:41:25,019 --> 01:41:28,199 stepping up their calls for Ukraine to join the military 1695 01:41:28,199 --> 01:41:30,929 alliance. Ali Rogen has the details. 1696 01:41:31,110 --> 01:41:33,840 Poland's parliament today passed a resolution supporting 1697 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:37,170 Ukraine's admission to NATO. Ukraine in NATO was a 1698 01:41:37,170 --> 01:41:40,380 contentious issue long before the war began. And it has only 1699 01:41:40,380 --> 01:41:44,250 accelerated since then. We have now our own debate on when or 1700 01:41:44,250 --> 01:41:47,370 whether Ukraine should be invited into NATO. Charles 1701 01:41:47,370 --> 01:41:50,220 caption served on the National Security Council staff during 1702 01:41:50,220 --> 01:41:52,770 the Obama and Clinton administrations. He's now a 1703 01:41:52,770 --> 01:41:55,500 senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and a 1704 01:41:55,500 --> 01:41:58,950 Georgetown University professor and Evelyn Farkas was Deputy 1705 01:41:58,950 --> 01:42:02,430 Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia. 1706 01:42:02,610 --> 01:42:06,000 During the Obama administration. She's now the executive director 1707 01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:09,120 of the McCain institute at Arizona State University. 1708 01:42:09,150 --> 01:42:12,840 Welcome back to you both. Evelyn. I want to begin with you 1709 01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:15,450 you support Ukraine becoming a member of NATO now, 1710 01:42:15,599 --> 01:42:19,739 why Ukraine has earned it. First of all, we gave you credit in a 1711 01:42:19,739 --> 01:42:22,799 political agreement back when the international community took 1712 01:42:22,799 --> 01:42:25,349 their nuclear weapons that we would defend them if they were 1713 01:42:25,349 --> 01:42:30,119 invaded. And the countries that were supposed to defend Ukraine 1714 01:42:30,179 --> 01:42:34,289 did defend Ukraine to some extent, but not to the extent 1715 01:42:34,289 --> 01:42:37,409 that Ukraine expected since then Ukraine has been fighting to 1716 01:42:37,409 --> 01:42:40,529 uphold the international order the principles of the sanctity 1717 01:42:40,529 --> 01:42:44,459 of borders, which Russia has violated repeatedly. And frankly 1718 01:42:44,459 --> 01:42:47,789 speaking, they are now the most capable, the largest, most in 1719 01:42:47,819 --> 01:42:51,719 NATO interoperable, battle hardened, capable military on 1720 01:42:51,719 --> 01:42:54,869 the European continent. So from a military perspective, they've 1721 01:42:54,869 --> 01:42:55,649 also earned it, 1722 01:42:55,860 --> 01:42:58,770 Adam Curry: they've earned it, it's fair and square, they 1723 01:42:58,770 --> 01:42:59,910 deserve it. 1724 01:43:00,540 --> 01:43:02,100 John C Dvorak: A couple of things in there. First of all, 1725 01:43:02,100 --> 01:43:05,550 she's with the McCain institute at ASU. Yeah, 1726 01:43:05,700 --> 01:43:09,720 Adam Curry: danger Will Robinson McCain, who went in there with 1727 01:43:10,050 --> 01:43:14,850 Vicki and with Lindy Hop, Lady G. Graham. And now cookies, the 1728 01:43:14,850 --> 01:43:22,110 whole my Don group 2014. They they they made a coup happen. 1729 01:43:22,770 --> 01:43:29,070 John C Dvorak: And secondly, the this idea that these the nuclear 1730 01:43:29,070 --> 01:43:32,940 weapons that were taken out of Ukraine, were Russian there 1731 01:43:32,940 --> 01:43:37,500 weren't they weren't made daring. Yes, there were a bunch 1732 01:43:37,500 --> 01:43:41,070 of Russian nukes that were positioned. They were position 1733 01:43:41,070 --> 01:43:44,280 there, they were not really owned by Ukraine if we became a 1734 01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:47,880 sovereign nation, and so they had to pull them out. They just 1735 01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,940 had to because it was be dangerous as per proliferation 1736 01:43:50,940 --> 01:43:54,720 just to let these things exist. And it had nothing to do with 1737 01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:59,640 them protecting themselves with nukes. So this bullcrap, so 1738 01:43:59,910 --> 01:44:02,850 let's turn the tables and ask the guy who's the Council on 1739 01:44:02,850 --> 01:44:06,120 Foreign Relations is your Georgetown, Professor Bob about 1740 01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:10,620 the whole thing to get an official the official take 1741 01:44:10,620 --> 01:44:14,280 because I think he would be the one with a with a would be a 1742 01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:18,900 mouthpiece for the intelligence groups, as opposed to this crazy 1743 01:44:18,900 --> 01:44:22,800 woman who just by the way, this went on for the night to have 1744 01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:26,550 clips of and she just goes nuts about Yeah, good. They earned 1745 01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:30,060 her we should go load him up and we should we are gonna do 1746 01:44:30,060 --> 01:44:30,750 anything. 1747 01:44:31,710 --> 01:44:32,790 Adam Curry: Their meanings. 1748 01:44:34,440 --> 01:44:37,470 Unknown: All right, Charles, to you. What's your response? Has 1749 01:44:37,470 --> 01:44:38,370 Ukraine earned it? 1750 01:44:38,429 --> 01:44:43,199 I'm all for helping Ukraine and doing our best to enable Ukraine 1751 01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:46,649 to recover as much of its territory as possible, hopefully 1752 01:44:46,649 --> 01:44:51,059 all of its territory. But I part ways with Evelyn on the question 1753 01:44:51,059 --> 01:44:55,829 of whether NATO should open its doors and offer membership to 1754 01:44:55,829 --> 01:44:59,339 Ukraine. At this point, President Biden his NATO allies 1755 01:44:59,489 --> 01:45:02,789 are helping Ukraine defend itself. But they're not going to 1756 01:45:02,789 --> 01:45:06,809 war to defend Ukraine, in part because they've made a judgment 1757 01:45:07,049 --> 01:45:11,909 that they're not ready to see NATO go to war with Russia, risk 1758 01:45:11,909 --> 01:45:15,359 World War Three over Ukraine. And we need to keep in mind that 1759 01:45:15,359 --> 01:45:20,189 if NATO does admit Ukraine, and a single bomb were to fall on 1760 01:45:20,189 --> 01:45:23,939 Keith, we would have a treaty based obligation to go to war 1761 01:45:23,939 --> 01:45:29,339 with Russia. Secondly, I think that we see that this is a war 1762 01:45:29,339 --> 01:45:31,679 that is going to go on for a long time. We don't know how to 1763 01:45:31,829 --> 01:45:36,179 how it will end. We need to keep open the prospect for some sort 1764 01:45:36,179 --> 01:45:39,839 of ceasefire, perhaps an RMS system in which we might need 1765 01:45:39,839 --> 01:45:43,739 Russia to play ball much harder to get them to play ball. Two 1766 01:45:43,739 --> 01:45:48,029 final reasons. One is there's no consensus in NATO about mitting 1767 01:45:48,029 --> 01:45:52,469 Ukraine. NATO strongest suit right now is its unity. And I 1768 01:45:52,469 --> 01:45:55,139 don't think we want to interject this debate right before the 1769 01:45:55,139 --> 01:46:00,269 summit in July and go into that summit with disunity. 1770 01:46:02,700 --> 01:46:05,640 Adam Curry: Ah, see the disunity right there in the program? 1771 01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:10,860 John C Dvorak: Yeah, so you have the official that's I consider 1772 01:46:10,860 --> 01:46:15,870 that the official opinion. Dan, long time. So in other words, 1773 01:46:15,870 --> 01:46:19,530 there's no do not get in NATO at the at this point. There's no 1774 01:46:19,530 --> 01:46:23,100 way and this war is going on forever. So get your pocketbooks 1775 01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:23,370 out. 1776 01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:30,120 Adam Curry: Luckily, NPR is going to give us a breakdown of 1777 01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:32,280 how the spring offensive is going. Did you know it was well 1778 01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,010 underway? John's spring offensive? Spring Offensive is 1779 01:46:35,010 --> 01:46:35,550 raucous 1780 01:46:35,550 --> 01:46:38,820 John C Dvorak: I understand yes, the spring of it is well 1781 01:46:38,820 --> 01:46:41,640 underway and the Ukrainians are kicking butt. 1782 01:46:41,670 --> 01:46:45,270 Adam Curry: Well. Listen to this. Just the beginning. Like a 1783 01:46:45,270 --> 01:46:48,660 minute and a half of this report from NPR. My buddy Dave Jones 1784 01:46:48,660 --> 01:46:52,380 sent this to me. Now just imagine they're reporting on a 1785 01:46:52,380 --> 01:46:56,310 soccer match cranes plans for a spring offensive as spring turns 1786 01:46:56,310 --> 01:46:58,080 to summer, where does this effort stand? 1787 01:46:58,260 --> 01:47:00,480 Unknown: Well, are you at this point, we're a little bit over a 1788 01:47:00,480 --> 01:47:05,310 week into it. It's limited progress, very tough going. The 1789 01:47:05,310 --> 01:47:08,880 Russian troops are dug in, and they're waiting with minefields 1790 01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:14,100 and trenches and airpower. Every village is being contested. The 1791 01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:17,550 Ukrainians are trying to advance along three separate lines, one 1792 01:47:17,550 --> 01:47:20,130 to the east, two to the southeast, they're probably 1793 01:47:20,130 --> 01:47:22,560 doing best in this sort of middle line. They're working 1794 01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,080 their way down a small river, and they've taken several 1795 01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,890 villages along the way. Overall, the Ukrainian military says 1796 01:47:28,890 --> 01:47:33,090 they've taken about roughly 40 square miles. So they are moving 1797 01:47:33,090 --> 01:47:36,570 forward. But it's a slow pace, and they have not approached any 1798 01:47:36,570 --> 01:47:40,500 of the key towns or cities that they'll need to really make this 1799 01:47:40,500 --> 01:47:42,090 a success. So Tom, 1800 01:47:42,090 --> 01:47:44,790 what are you hearing about the additional support that might be 1801 01:47:44,790 --> 01:47:46,200 coming to Ukraine from the US? 1802 01:47:47,850 --> 01:47:51,000 Adam Curry: Yes, we're getting the other teams update here. 1803 01:47:51,540 --> 01:47:54,720 John C Dvorak: So we have they've taken 40 square miles. 1804 01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:55,440 Yes. 40 1805 01:47:55,440 --> 01:47:57,990 Adam Curry: miles of through the middle line, the left line, the 1806 01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,730 Unknown: no towns is just 40 miles of empty fields. That's 1807 01:48:02,730 --> 01:48:05,610 Adam Curry: right. That's right. And there's more coming 40 miles 1808 01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,670 of raw land, and it's all about land. 1809 01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,440 Unknown: Okay. Yeah. All right, 1810 01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:15,570 to really make this a success. Tommy, 1811 01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:19,860 Tom, what are you hearing that might be coming to Ukraine from 1812 01:48:19,860 --> 01:48:20,940 the US and other allies. 1813 01:48:21,480 --> 01:48:23,850 As you noted, there was a meeting in Brussels and the US 1814 01:48:23,850 --> 01:48:27,270 and its allies pledged more air defense weapons. And that's of 1815 01:48:27,270 --> 01:48:30,660 course vital because Russia continues to hammer Ukrainian 1816 01:48:30,660 --> 01:48:34,110 cities, or missiles for the Patriot batteries and other 1817 01:48:34,110 --> 01:48:37,230 energy. So air defense systems, also more tanks, armored 1818 01:48:37,230 --> 01:48:39,900 vehicles, shoulder fired missiles now bringing it all 1819 01:48:39,900 --> 01:48:43,110 Russian tanks. And finally, there are plans they announced 1820 01:48:43,110 --> 01:48:47,490 to train Ukrainian pilots on the F 16. Or plane in Denmark and 1821 01:48:47,490 --> 01:48:51,990 the Netherlands sometime this summer, but no word on when and 1822 01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:55,860 how many of the aircraft will actually get to Ukraine. And 1823 01:48:55,860 --> 01:48:58,770 that has annoyed Ukrainian officials and some defense 1824 01:48:58,770 --> 01:49:02,940 analysts who said we need these planes much earlier. Now you're 1825 01:49:02,940 --> 01:49:04,920 looking at probably sometime next year 1826 01:49:04,980 --> 01:49:07,650 Adam Curry: defense analysts. They're angry because we can't 1827 01:49:07,650 --> 01:49:12,210 get new gear fast enough. We need to spend spend spend. So 1828 01:49:12,210 --> 01:49:15,510 yeah, this is going to be a very long spending process. I think 1829 01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:20,070 you're completely right. You can call it a war, clearly about 40 1830 01:49:20,070 --> 01:49:21,150 miles of turf. 1831 01:49:21,750 --> 01:49:25,110 Unknown: But it's your turf. 40 miles a golf course. 1832 01:49:25,260 --> 01:49:28,200 Adam Curry: It's just here to empty our pockets into the 1833 01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:32,880 military industrial complex and enter the spy spook master 1834 01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:37,440 Richard Engel who has an exclusive one on one one on one 1835 01:49:37,470 --> 01:49:41,070 John C Dvorak: Yeah, this guy was on you know I've been seeing 1836 01:49:41,070 --> 01:49:44,580 him on and off I wish I had some clips but yeah, I'm glad you got 1837 01:49:44,580 --> 01:49:44,760 him 1838 01:49:44,849 --> 01:49:48,209 Adam Curry: actually. No, we have clip custodians. We have 1839 01:49:48,209 --> 01:49:51,389 clip collectors this clip collector Steve I think and he 1840 01:49:51,389 --> 01:49:53,969 got two clips of the one on one 1841 01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:57,390 Unknown: Ukraine tonight is in a full scale fight to take back 1842 01:49:57,390 --> 01:49:57,900 Russian 1843 01:49:57,930 --> 01:50:00,570 Adam Curry: listen to the sound effects are groovy Hey, this is 1844 01:50:00,570 --> 01:50:03,600 how you do report people put some machine gunfire in Ukraine 1845 01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:03,990 tonight 1846 01:50:04,020 --> 01:50:07,020 Unknown: is in a full scale fight to take back Russian 1847 01:50:07,050 --> 01:50:08,040 occupied land. 1848 01:50:09,420 --> 01:50:11,640 John C Dvorak: Does he have a gun battery behind him? What's 1849 01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:12,480 the deal? Yeah, this 1850 01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:14,160 Adam Curry: is what you do is called B roll. 1851 01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:16,950 Unknown: pivotal moment for our interview with Ukrainian 1852 01:50:16,950 --> 01:50:20,250 president Volodymyr Zelensky. At the presidential compound didn t 1853 01:50:20,430 --> 01:50:25,080 and we are now in the early days of this long anticipated counter 1854 01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:26,070 offensive. Yes. 1855 01:50:26,220 --> 01:50:28,200 Adam Curry: How's it going? Yeah, no more than once. She 1856 01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:31,320 did. Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I thought it was an 1857 01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:34,530 offensive. I thought was the spring offense. Is it always 1858 01:50:34,530 --> 01:50:40,890 been counter offensive? Did I did I misunderstand that? You 1859 01:50:40,890 --> 01:50:43,380 mentioned it. I thought it was the spring offensive. Not 1860 01:50:43,380 --> 01:50:45,330 John C Dvorak: that I thought it was offensive to but and we 1861 01:50:45,330 --> 01:50:47,460 could be wrong. We could better but it could have been it kind 1862 01:50:47,460 --> 01:50:50,010 of offensive maybe a term they used in there. All right. Well, 1863 01:50:50,010 --> 01:50:50,190 well. 1864 01:50:50,730 --> 01:50:52,170 Adam Curry: It's a pivotal moment 1865 01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:54,510 Unknown: Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky at the 1866 01:50:54,510 --> 01:50:58,650 presidential compound didn t and we are now in the early days of 1867 01:50:58,650 --> 01:51:03,330 this long anticipated counter offensive. How's it going? Yeah, 1868 01:51:03,330 --> 01:51:03,420 no 1869 01:51:03,420 --> 01:51:05,910 more than once you did that level, but I cannot give you all 1870 01:51:05,910 --> 01:51:10,020 the details. We're both defensive and offensive actions. 1871 01:51:12,660 --> 01:51:17,490 That things look not bad. Not bad, generally positive. 1872 01:51:18,269 --> 01:51:24,419 Adam Curry: Not Bad Things look bad. I love how NBC got this. I 1873 01:51:24,419 --> 01:51:28,229 mean, surely they have better translators on stuff. It seems 1874 01:51:28,259 --> 01:51:30,869 odd that you would choose this guy but me it's just me. So 1875 01:51:30,870 --> 01:51:33,780 Unknown: defensive and offensive actions is for a reason. 1876 01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:36,240 Adam Curry: Always. Everything's for a reason. What do you think? 1877 01:51:36,270 --> 01:51:36,720 Okay, well, 1878 01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:39,690 John C Dvorak: it would stylist. Think about this because this 1879 01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:44,490 guy is dynamite. He's got the deep accent. He sounds like some 1880 01:51:44,490 --> 01:51:48,030 sort of Boris guy from Akari. He's cartoony is very cartoony 1881 01:51:48,540 --> 01:51:51,390 Adam Curry: things going bad, bad, bad, bad. Would you like 1882 01:51:51,390 --> 01:51:55,440 some borscht? I'm sorry, 1883 01:51:56,009 --> 01:52:01,829 Unknown: that things look not bad. I would say is generally 1884 01:52:01,829 --> 01:52:05,969 positive. But it's difficult, oh, national declaration, our 1885 01:52:05,969 --> 01:52:10,259 heroic people, our troops, who are now at the front of the 1886 01:52:10,259 --> 01:52:16,349 frontline might are facing very tough resistance. You understand 1887 01:52:16,349 --> 01:52:20,999 why she pro rata because for Russia to lose this campaign to 1888 01:52:20,999 --> 01:52:26,279 Ukraine. Separate I would say actually means losing the world. 1889 01:52:27,210 --> 01:52:30,960 President Solinsky also had a dire warning, he blamed Russia 1890 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:34,620 for blowing up a dam which Russia denies flooding dozens of 1891 01:52:34,620 --> 01:52:38,550 villages and tells us the next Russian target is the Zapper 1892 01:52:38,550 --> 01:52:40,350 Reja nuclear power plant. 1893 01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:43,380 Russia does want to blow up the station. 1894 01:52:43,830 --> 01:52:45,120 Why would they want to do that? 1895 01:52:47,130 --> 01:52:49,260 Adam Curry: Why? Why would they want to do that? No. For the 1896 01:52:49,260 --> 01:52:51,450 same reason they blew up the dam. Of course, that makes 1897 01:52:51,450 --> 01:52:53,220 nothing but sense, don't we? 1898 01:52:53,670 --> 01:52:57,510 Unknown: Because like with them, they are not interested in 1899 01:52:57,510 --> 01:53:03,540 Ukraine. Securities like Ukraine. visibility's they 1900 01:53:03,540 --> 01:53:07,440 always need instability here and wants the role to pressure 1901 01:53:07,440 --> 01:53:10,590 Ukraine to stop the conflict complete. 1902 01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,300 Adam Curry: So that is the official CIA message as far as 1903 01:53:15,300 --> 01:53:16,170 I'm concerned. 1904 01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:20,250 John C Dvorak: Okay. Well, one thing I want to mention, yes, I 1905 01:53:20,250 --> 01:53:26,310 have a second is that the Russians? have long since taken 1906 01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:30,780 over that. That whole power plant, yeah, the whole area is 1907 01:53:30,780 --> 01:53:37,950 theirs. And so they would be blowing themselves up. If they 1908 01:53:37,950 --> 01:53:39,990 blew that up in there, and they're maintaining it for a 1909 01:53:39,990 --> 01:53:43,080 reason, and they could if they wanted to cause that some 1910 01:53:43,470 --> 01:53:46,020 Adam Curry: just turn it off. They don't have to turn it off. 1911 01:53:46,020 --> 01:53:46,800 Turn it off. 1912 01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:52,500 John C Dvorak: So this is this is Ukrainian operation of trying 1913 01:53:52,500 --> 01:53:57,420 to they want to attack it or something to get to I don't know 1914 01:53:57,420 --> 01:53:57,990 what they're up to. 1915 01:53:58,650 --> 01:54:02,430 Adam Curry: Come on, John. But okay, our guys Catholics in 1916 01:54:02,430 --> 01:54:03,360 action. Hello. 1917 01:54:03,390 --> 01:54:06,600 John C Dvorak: That's okay. Now, I was thinking about this two 1918 01:54:09,180 --> 01:54:14,700 $70 billion dollars worth of American money that's going over 1919 01:54:14,700 --> 01:54:18,090 there in one form or another, and then being distributed to 1920 01:54:18,090 --> 01:54:22,290 Africa. Is it possible that the CIA that there's not too much 1921 01:54:22,290 --> 01:54:26,460 complaining about this as let's just say the CIA is the 1922 01:54:26,460 --> 01:54:32,220 middleman as the arms dealer to sell the $70 billion worth of 1923 01:54:32,220 --> 01:54:35,430 arms or at least half of it? Let's say 35 billion to Africa 1924 01:54:35,430 --> 01:54:41,700 or maybe 100 billion in gray market sales and return that 100 1925 01:54:41,700 --> 01:54:46,200 billion to our coffers. So the 70 billion investment actually 1926 01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:50,940 is is is money well spent. It's an investment a dream 1927 01:54:50,940 --> 01:54:55,260 Adam Curry: on that's all going to the big guy 10% for the big 1928 01:54:55,260 --> 01:55:00,210 guy. What do we talk to our coffers? What? What is that ever 1929 01:55:00,210 --> 01:55:03,570 happened? Oh, here America, we just got we got some money back 1930 01:55:03,570 --> 01:55:08,850 for you. Unlikely. Here's the second part of this. He says 1931 01:55:08,850 --> 01:55:11,700 Unknown: Russia is getting desperate as more Western 1932 01:55:11,700 --> 01:55:15,810 military aid is coming. Today, the US and other allies agreed 1933 01:55:15,810 --> 01:55:19,650 to train Ukrainian pilots to operate F sixteens. But it's 1934 01:55:19,650 --> 01:55:23,430 still unclear when they'll arrive. And how many you've been 1935 01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:28,020 talking about planes since day one. I remember seeing you the 1936 01:55:28,020 --> 01:55:31,470 very early days of the war in this building in the basement. 1937 01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:34,830 Now they're somewhere in the pipeline, 1938 01:55:35,430 --> 01:55:40,050 John C Dvorak: waist up. What was angled doing there in the 1939 01:55:40,050 --> 01:55:43,350 first place it very early days in the basement, the very early 1940 01:55:43,350 --> 01:55:45,930 days in the basement as you who was getting briefed 1941 01:55:47,250 --> 01:55:50,700 Adam Curry: it of course, and how come they're not in the 1942 01:55:50,700 --> 01:55:56,130 basement anymore? My question. Back to Back to Richard Engel 1943 01:55:56,130 --> 01:56:00,750 are our expert on the ground, wasn't he? In the My Dawn as 1944 01:56:00,750 --> 01:56:01,200 well? 1945 01:56:02,970 --> 01:56:04,650 John C Dvorak: I don't remember that he was or not, but 1946 01:56:04,650 --> 01:56:05,430 probably. 1947 01:56:05,970 --> 01:56:08,970 Unknown: I remember seeing you the very early days of the war 1948 01:56:08,970 --> 01:56:13,050 in this building in the basement. Now they're somewhere 1949 01:56:13,050 --> 01:56:17,280 in the pipeline. What has been the effect of having weapons 1950 01:56:17,460 --> 01:56:22,230 rolled out like this given slice by slice over time, though, 1951 01:56:22,230 --> 01:56:22,650 surely, 1952 01:56:23,460 --> 01:56:28,980 it's prolonged the war. Ducky, the actual if we are supplied 1953 01:56:29,010 --> 01:56:33,090 with the machinery that is currently held by our partners, 1954 01:56:33,900 --> 01:56:35,130 we will be the Foster. 1955 01:56:35,340 --> 01:56:38,490 We also asked about comments from former President Trump and 1956 01:56:38,490 --> 01:56:41,790 Governor DeSantis questioning American support for Ukraine. 1957 01:56:42,090 --> 01:56:46,080 President Solinsky invited both to come here and said unless 1958 01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:49,200 Vladimir Putin is stopped in this country, there'll be a 1959 01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:50,760 wider war with NATO. 1960 01:56:50,970 --> 01:56:54,540 Adam Curry: Ah, there it is. Yes. So it doesn't really 1961 01:56:54,540 --> 01:56:57,630 matter. If they're in NATO or not, they're coming. The 1962 01:56:57,630 --> 01:56:59,310 Russians are coming. The Russians are coming. The 1963 01:56:59,310 --> 01:57:02,280 Russians are coming. The Russians are coming. wider war, 1964 01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:09,060 it's going to be everywhere. Get ready, Holland, your next. I 1965 01:57:09,060 --> 01:57:14,430 have. Unbelievable. So a delegation of African nations 1966 01:57:14,430 --> 01:57:19,590 went to Ukraine and met with the result that President Solinsky 1967 01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,920 Unknown: and they could do the deal to get those arms down 1968 01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:23,190 there. 1969 01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:29,550 Adam Curry: Well, it was billed as a mediation mission to get 1970 01:57:29,550 --> 01:57:32,340 some kind of peace because you know, the Oh, that's right. 1971 01:57:32,340 --> 01:57:34,740 Yeah. Just began a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, they haven't, 1972 01:57:34,740 --> 01:57:36,900 you know, they got some issues. They can't they're there. People 1973 01:57:36,900 --> 01:57:39,690 can't eat wheat, they want their wheat. They want their wheat 1974 01:57:39,690 --> 01:57:42,600 they can't eat. But I 1975 01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:45,450 Unknown: love sorghum. I love 1976 01:57:45,450 --> 01:57:50,520 Adam Curry: douchebag dog from France. 24. Our favorite. He 1977 01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:53,730 says something here that is just too funny when it comes to when 1978 01:57:53,730 --> 01:57:57,480 it comes to mainstream media, and how they view things 1979 01:57:57,480 --> 01:58:00,780 particularly fairness and neutrality. This kind of takes 1980 01:58:00,780 --> 01:58:01,230 the cake 1981 01:58:01,259 --> 01:58:02,369 Unknown: Victor, our international affairs 1982 01:58:02,369 --> 01:58:06,119 commentator, Douglas Herbert, hello to you. There are some 1983 01:58:06,119 --> 01:58:08,669 critics over this delegation. Some say it's the wrong group. 1984 01:58:08,699 --> 01:58:11,549 And some say it's at the worst time. Why is that? 1985 01:58:11,580 --> 01:58:14,310 Well, and you're right. The critics have been unsparing and 1986 01:58:14,340 --> 01:58:17,220 the critics mainly obviously Ukraine, but also in the US, 1987 01:58:17,250 --> 01:58:19,890 Europe, members of NATO. What are they been saying the 1988 01:58:19,890 --> 01:58:24,450 criticism ranges from? This is a laughingstock mediation, Mission 1989 01:58:24,450 --> 01:58:28,020 mediation and quotes to they have absolutely no leverage 1990 01:58:28,020 --> 01:58:30,900 compared to the real global powers such as China, which 1991 01:58:30,900 --> 01:58:34,500 could have some bearing on this conflict if it really had the 1992 01:58:34,500 --> 01:58:37,860 will or the political will, to they are not neutral. This is 1993 01:58:37,860 --> 01:58:40,350 where the criticism is. I'll start with the we are not 1994 01:58:40,350 --> 01:58:44,820 neutral plank. You have six nations taking part in this 1995 01:58:44,820 --> 01:58:47,850 mission. And what's interesting is one more than a dozen African 1996 01:58:47,850 --> 01:58:52,500 nations failed to condemn the Russian invasion. Early on early 1997 01:58:52,500 --> 01:58:56,880 in the days last year, UN resolution. Four of the nations 1998 01:58:56,910 --> 01:58:59,820 on this mission abstained from that resolution condemning 1999 01:58:59,820 --> 01:59:02,580 Russia's invasion. So you have one of the biggest ones, if not 2000 01:59:02,610 --> 01:59:05,700 the biggest one in South Africa, you have Senegal, you have the 2001 01:59:05,700 --> 01:59:09,240 Republic of Congo, and you have Uganda, those four nations that 2002 01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:12,990 is four out of the six on this team refused to vote to refuse 2003 01:59:12,990 --> 01:59:16,650 to vote abstain from condemning. You do have to who were 2004 01:59:16,650 --> 01:59:20,400 represented in this delegation, Egypt, in Zambia, and they did 2005 01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:22,980 vote to condemn Russia's invasion. So you have this 2006 01:59:22,980 --> 01:59:26,880 neutrality problem here. A delegation whose members are not 2007 01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:31,110 seen as neutral and at worst, seen as beholden to Moscow for 2008 01:59:31,110 --> 01:59:34,950 various things from as you mentioned, dependence on grain 2009 01:59:34,980 --> 01:59:37,500 and fertilizer in the goodwill of leji Amir Putin, 2010 01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:41,820 Adam Curry: so help me understand if there's a vote to 2011 01:59:41,820 --> 01:59:45,120 condemn Russia and you say, You know what, I'm not going to 2012 01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:48,690 vote. Isn't that the definition of being neutral? 2013 01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:52,470 Unknown: That's what neutrality I would say 2014 01:59:52,500 --> 01:59:56,160 Adam Curry: that's what neutrality is. But no in the in 2015 01:59:56,160 --> 02:00:00,360 the eyes of the of the mainstream media. Okay. douche 2016 02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:03,630 bag dog that you're now a puppet yeah 2017 02:00:03,630 --> 02:00:04,710 Unknown: be a Putin puppet and 2018 02:00:04,710 --> 02:00:08,310 Adam Curry: you're Vladimir Putin puppet. The the whole idea 2019 02:00:08,310 --> 02:00:11,340 of neutrality is you know what I'm not for or against anybody 2020 02:00:11,340 --> 02:00:15,450 in this. I'm neutral. That's what Switzerland did now we're 2021 02:00:15,450 --> 02:00:21,150 neutral. Give us your money. We're neutral. So this is it's 2022 02:00:21,150 --> 02:00:27,810 just so sad. Yeah. Wow. And then of course, you know, we got to 2023 02:00:27,810 --> 02:00:29,700 throw some more nuke nuke fear in 2024 02:00:29,700 --> 02:00:31,980 Unknown: there Latimer Putin's new statements about nuclear 2025 02:00:31,980 --> 02:00:34,650 weapons, and his possible response 2026 02:00:34,650 --> 02:00:39,090 if Ukraine receives NATO 16 fighter jets ABCDE and panel is 2027 02:00:39,090 --> 02:00:41,400 in Ukraine for us this morning with the latest. Ian Good 2028 02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:42,210 Adam Curry: morning. Good morning. 2029 02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:44,340 Unknown: Yeah, good morning works that's right. The first 2030 02:00:44,340 --> 02:00:47,790 Russian tactical nukes have now been deployed in Belarus to the 2031 02:00:47,790 --> 02:00:49,080 north of Ukraine but 2032 02:00:49,470 --> 02:00:50,400 their tactical 2033 02:00:50,790 --> 02:00:53,940 Adam Curry: he's just making it up as you go tactical nukes I 2034 02:00:53,940 --> 02:00:56,100 don't even know what that means anymore. Tech Whoa, would you 2035 02:00:56,100 --> 02:00:57,060 use open a can 2036 02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:01,170 John C Dvorak: i This is a bottle of origin sparkling 2037 02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:02,670 water, who origin 2038 02:01:02,700 --> 02:01:04,980 Adam Curry: origin? And is it basically just fizzy water 2039 02:01:04,980 --> 02:01:06,510 expensive with a nice label? 2040 02:01:07,410 --> 02:01:10,830 John C Dvorak: It's in a label could be better. It's not as 2041 02:01:10,830 --> 02:01:14,280 fizzy as I like our back to the tactical 2042 02:01:14,280 --> 02:01:17,160 Unknown: nukes truce to the north of Ukraine. But it's also 2043 02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:20,520 effectively moving the weapons onto the border of three NATO 2044 02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:23,520 countries as well Bluejeans claiming that they'd only be 2045 02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:26,310 used in the event of a threat to the Russian state. But remember, 2046 02:01:26,310 --> 02:01:29,430 he invaded Ukraine in the first place because he falsely claimed 2047 02:01:29,550 --> 02:01:32,850 it was a threat to the Russian state. This isn't the first time 2048 02:01:32,850 --> 02:01:36,450 of course, are these arrays now? Throwing in the word falsely, 2049 02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:38,550 Adam Curry: yes, falsely falsely claimed. 2050 02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:42,090 John C Dvorak: Why did they just say claims become claims as a 2051 02:01:42,090 --> 02:01:46,080 threat? That's bad enough but falsely claims, it's that means 2052 02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:49,470 he's insincere. Does that mean he's insincere when he claims 2053 02:01:49,470 --> 02:01:49,860 something? 2054 02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:52,740 Adam Curry: Good point. I love your linguistics 2055 02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:55,110 Unknown: Russian state. But remember, he invaded Ukraine in 2056 02:01:55,110 --> 02:01:58,110 the first place because he falsely claimed it was a threat 2057 02:01:58,110 --> 02:02:01,050 to the Russian state. This isn't the first time of course, that 2058 02:02:01,050 --> 02:02:04,200 he's raised the specter of a nuclear attack as a threat in 2059 02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:07,830 this war. And this deployment is just the first wave with more to 2060 02:02:07,830 --> 02:02:10,950 come. The Biden administration says it's closely monitoring the 2061 02:02:10,950 --> 02:02:14,280 situation, but for now says there's no reason to adjust 2062 02:02:14,310 --> 02:02:17,700 America's nuclear posture. Meanwhile, Ukraine's allies 2063 02:02:17,700 --> 02:02:21,630 preparing to start training pilots on f 16 and other fighter 2064 02:02:21,630 --> 02:02:24,300 jets, which could be delivered to Ukraine as early as late 2065 02:02:24,300 --> 02:02:27,600 summer. Russia's saying that it will try to attack those 2066 02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:30,870 aircraft with Putin warning there's a serious danger that 2067 02:02:30,870 --> 02:02:34,410 NATO could be pulled further into the war. Meanwhile, Ukraine 2068 02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:37,650 is saying that it's made further small advances in its counter 2069 02:02:37,650 --> 02:02:40,740 offensive. And this morning though the British military the 2070 02:02:40,740 --> 02:02:43,920 British Ministry of Defence assessing the Russia likely has 2071 02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:47,340 a temporary advantage in the battles in the south especially 2072 02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:51,150 by increased use of air power in particular attack helicopters. 2073 02:02:51,570 --> 02:02:54,060 Adam Curry: Oh attack helicopters that's the next one 2074 02:02:54,060 --> 02:03:00,030 we need some helicopter action what a scam this thing is such a 2075 02:03:00,030 --> 02:03:00,480 scam. You 2076 02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:02,520 Unknown: think what a scam? 2077 02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:06,210 Adam Curry: I mean? It's an op and this is a scop is horrible. 2078 02:03:06,210 --> 02:03:10,590 Scam op. It's just it's just more more more more more and 2079 02:03:10,590 --> 02:03:12,870 they're getting crappy F 16. We know they're not getting the 2080 02:03:12,870 --> 02:03:15,240 good stuff. You have the older f6 teens, 2081 02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:18,150 John C Dvorak: and they gotta be taken out of service eventually. 2082 02:03:18,150 --> 02:03:20,340 Adam Curry: Yes, well, you have to make room for the new ones 2083 02:03:20,370 --> 02:03:26,250 but new gear. Yeah, and all all the defense ministers meeting in 2084 02:03:26,250 --> 02:03:30,930 Vilnius. Oh yes, the only US Vilnius and Vilnius look at some 2085 02:03:30,930 --> 02:03:33,540 more money How do we get some money out of there may a lot of 2086 02:03:33,540 --> 02:03:36,180 shoulder back slapping going on there 2087 02:03:37,530 --> 02:03:44,550 Unknown: Ah don't know. All right. Yeah, I'm in the Ukraine 2088 02:03:44,550 --> 02:03:45,300 for that is 2089 02:03:45,300 --> 02:03:47,430 Adam Curry: that is kind of the way I do it. Wait, I have one 2090 02:03:47,430 --> 02:03:51,480 more. One more. There's, this is a drone clip. It's always always 2091 02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:52,710 interesting to hear a drone clip 2092 02:03:52,740 --> 02:03:55,860 Unknown: tonight new details of the dramatic moment Russian 2093 02:03:55,860 --> 02:03:58,830 soldier Ruslan Anat, in surrenders on the battlefield to 2094 02:03:58,830 --> 02:04:00,090 a Ukrainian drone. 2095 02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:05,430 Adam Curry: The drone, yeah, he surrendered to a drone. 2096 02:04:05,460 --> 02:04:08,340 Unknown: This video given to ABC News by the Ukrainian army's 2097 02:04:08,340 --> 02:04:11,880 92nd brigade begins with a different Russian soldier 2098 02:04:11,970 --> 02:04:14,760 running through the trenches amid fierce fighting, they're 2099 02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:18,990 back moot last month, the drone drops an explosive device just a 2100 02:04:18,990 --> 02:04:22,620 few feet away, knocking into the ground and eventually killing 2101 02:04:22,620 --> 02:04:25,380 him. That's when annotating emerge from a tunnel in the 2102 02:04:25,380 --> 02:04:28,710 trenches. realizing he's the last man standing he used his 2103 02:04:28,710 --> 02:04:32,220 hand signals to surrender to the drone shaking his head and 2104 02:04:32,220 --> 02:04:35,910 crossing his arms in an X. The Ukrainians attach a note to the 2105 02:04:35,910 --> 02:04:39,870 drone in Russian saying surrender follow the drone, and 2106 02:04:39,870 --> 02:04:45,150 it reads it and appears to a crock of crap story. moving side 2107 02:04:45,150 --> 02:04:48,990 to side to signaling No he won't. He makes a treacherous 2108 02:04:48,990 --> 02:04:52,470 walk half a mile across the open battlefield over the bodies of 2109 02:04:52,470 --> 02:04:56,280 his fallen comrades. At one point artillery fire narrowly 2110 02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:59,970 missing him. The Ukrainians claiming it was rushing fire to 2111 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,630 Close to Ukrainian trenches he surrenders and is taken 2112 02:05:03,630 --> 02:05:07,470 prisoner. Yeah, and you can also Nicolas the Ukrainians recording 2113 02:05:07,470 --> 02:05:11,940 this video. He says simply, I am Anna Tim Ruslan Nikolayevich. A 2114 02:05:11,940 --> 02:05:15,840 soldier of the Russian army, the drone saved my life today. 2115 02:05:16,110 --> 02:05:19,020 Adam Curry: Follow the drone imagine 2116 02:05:19,950 --> 02:05:22,020 John C Dvorak: just take out his hand gun and shoot the thing 2117 02:05:22,260 --> 02:05:26,850 Adam Curry: follow the drone follow the drone Oh my goodness. 2118 02:05:26,910 --> 02:05:27,180 And how 2119 02:05:27,180 --> 02:05:29,040 John C Dvorak: did they wait they wrote a note and then they 2120 02:05:29,070 --> 02:05:32,100 flew another drone out there to deliver the note I don't get 2121 02:05:32,100 --> 02:05:34,080 that note part of the stories Call 2122 02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:36,450 Adam Curry: of Duty seven or something. I don't think this 2123 02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:40,620 just makes no sense. They put a note on the drone follow the 2124 02:05:40,620 --> 02:05:43,530 drone and it rocked and rocked back and forth. Okay, that's a 2125 02:05:43,530 --> 02:05:48,150 signal I gotta follow the drone. John this is dumped this I'm 2126 02:05:48,150 --> 02:05:51,810 gonna say it again. wag the dog doesn't real people dying, but 2127 02:05:51,810 --> 02:05:53,820 it's wag the dog. Well, this 2128 02:05:53,820 --> 02:05:56,550 John C Dvorak: the drone story is definitely out of control. 2129 02:05:57,240 --> 02:05:58,740 Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your 2130 02:05:58,740 --> 02:06:01,380 courage in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the 2131 02:06:01,380 --> 02:06:03,630 counter offensive ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend 2132 02:06:03,630 --> 02:06:05,910 on the other end that one and only Mr. Johnson 2133 02:06:10,770 --> 02:06:13,080 John C Dvorak: Mr. Adam curl so in the morning nauseous to see 2134 02:06:13,080 --> 02:06:17,910 boots on the ground, feet in the air. Water and all of those 2135 02:06:17,910 --> 02:06:19,170 nights out there and in 2136 02:06:19,170 --> 02:06:25,350 Adam Curry: the morning to all the trolls and the troll. Trolls 2137 02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:28,980 follow the drone 1899 vo 2138 02:06:30,660 --> 02:06:32,430 John C Dvorak: dollars Day everyone says a three day 2139 02:06:32,430 --> 02:06:33,990 weekend. This is 2140 02:06:34,650 --> 02:06:38,460 Adam Curry: Juneteenth today. Tomorrow. Well, it's the 18th 2141 02:06:38,460 --> 02:06:38,970 today. 2142 02:06:40,170 --> 02:06:42,120 John C Dvorak: Well, tomorrow, Sunday is the holiday. 2143 02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:45,480 Adam Curry: Okay, so All right. So all right. So there was 2144 02:06:45,930 --> 02:06:48,780 John C Dvorak: a holiday three day weekend. So we get Thursday 2145 02:06:48,780 --> 02:06:53,070 numbers. We should have it should be 2324. But it's 18. 2146 02:06:53,070 --> 02:06:56,070 Yeah. So we're down way down. And so no one's listening to the 2147 02:06:56,070 --> 02:06:59,220 show and we work. We go out of our way to work on these 2148 02:06:59,220 --> 02:07:01,860 holidays. We do and nobody cares. 2149 02:07:02,070 --> 02:07:05,100 Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's all right. We Oh, that's 2150 02:07:05,130 --> 02:07:08,070 a show business. You know, you work on holidays, and we don't 2151 02:07:08,070 --> 02:07:12,360 take sabbaticals or what is it called? sabbatical? 2152 02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:13,830 Unknown: Yeah, no. hiatus, 2153 02:07:13,860 --> 02:07:19,020 Adam Curry: hiatus. hiatus, who were the shows on hiatus, 2154 02:07:19,020 --> 02:07:21,480 everybody. We're almost at the end of our season. 2155 02:07:21,690 --> 02:07:25,020 John C Dvorak: He had a season's over season going on hiatus. 2156 02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:26,070 We'll be back next 2157 02:07:26,580 --> 02:07:30,480 Adam Curry: year imagine. We love having the trolls with us 2158 02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:34,050 though. Thank you for the almost 2000 trolls who hung out and are 2159 02:07:34,050 --> 02:07:37,440 sitting steady with us, we appreciate that. You can be one 2160 02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:40,740 of them by going to troll room.io. That's where you can 2161 02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,680 listen to the live stream, you can hop into the chat room troll 2162 02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:47,040 room. Of course you couldn't you should be ditching your modern 2163 02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:50,340 podcast app or ditching your legacy podcast app and getting a 2164 02:07:50,340 --> 02:07:54,240 modern one at podcast apps.com. A whole bunch of them now have 2165 02:07:54,270 --> 02:07:58,470 had this live feature included. Pod verse podcast guru, podcast 2166 02:07:58,470 --> 02:08:03,180 addict fountain curio caster is growing the format we've been 2167 02:08:03,180 --> 02:08:08,580 using for a humble 16 years is now officially in heads. It's 2168 02:08:08,580 --> 02:08:13,080 probably like eight or nine podcast apps now. And as I said, 2169 02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:16,650 podcast apps.com You can also follow us at no agenda 2170 02:08:16,650 --> 02:08:19,710 social.com People seem to like using no agenda, social account 2171 02:08:19,710 --> 02:08:23,220 for you know, for getting groups together and organizing 2172 02:08:23,220 --> 02:08:26,010 themselves and doing stuff, which I think is a very good 2173 02:08:26,010 --> 02:08:30,570 usage of it. I mean, I use it as kind of as an inbox. But from 2174 02:08:30,570 --> 02:08:34,080 time to time, I'll just go to the local timeline and you know, 2175 02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:38,520 once you get through the inevitable 5000 Memes because 2176 02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:42,300 yeah, oh, we have a community let me upload memes all day. 2177 02:08:44,130 --> 02:08:45,150 means 2178 02:08:46,500 --> 02:08:48,300 Unknown: a couple of them in the newsletter once in a while. 2179 02:08:48,750 --> 02:08:50,640 Adam Curry: I'm not saying they're not good, but it's like 2180 02:08:50,670 --> 02:08:54,900 it's there are producers out there? Who muscly do Oh, that 2181 02:08:54,900 --> 02:08:58,380 must be 100 a day. Oh, I got another good meme. Gotta share. 2182 02:08:58,620 --> 02:09:01,500 Unknown: Gotta share movie buddy memes sting. Most of them are 2183 02:09:01,500 --> 02:09:01,770 pretty 2184 02:09:01,770 --> 02:09:04,050 Adam Curry: bad. But so from time to time, that's a good one. 2185 02:09:05,190 --> 02:09:07,800 But I like it when people are organizing and doing stuff 2186 02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:11,460 together. That's the kind of stuff I like to see. Doesn't 2187 02:09:11,460 --> 02:09:16,110 matter. You can reach us from any Mastodon account that does 2188 02:09:16,110 --> 02:09:20,010 not block us for our free speech. That's what they call 2189 02:09:20,010 --> 02:09:23,970 it. There's over 400 that block us were on the block list. Don't 2190 02:09:23,970 --> 02:09:27,120 even investigate just block us just because someone said so. 2191 02:09:27,750 --> 02:09:31,290 And you can figure it out and try it by searching for and 2192 02:09:31,290 --> 02:09:33,990 following Adam and Noah in the social.com Jhansi Dvorak no 2193 02:09:33,990 --> 02:09:38,040 agenda social.com As part of our value for value mission, which 2194 02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:41,070 is another reason why we're still here is because we're 2195 02:09:41,070 --> 02:09:46,770 supported by the community, the community. The producers, we 2196 02:09:46,770 --> 02:09:50,400 have no listeners, we only have producers who support us with 2197 02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:53,760 time, talent and treasure and that really is what I mean. I 2198 02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:57,750 was even this morning, you know, we've got the no agenda stream, 2199 02:09:57,990 --> 02:10:00,750 and there's all kinds of you know, shows 20 four hours a day, 2200 02:10:00,750 --> 02:10:03,300 seven days a week and Darren O'Neill is the rock roll pre 2201 02:10:03,300 --> 02:10:07,110 show. And you know, we do switch over and it's more professional 2202 02:10:07,110 --> 02:10:11,790 than an actual Radio Network. Yeah, it was like Darren says 2203 02:10:11,820 --> 02:10:15,600 over to you boom, I jack in the stream switches, Matt, and this 2204 02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:18,780 is all stuff that other people have done for us. Because if we 2205 02:10:18,780 --> 02:10:22,710 had to pay for it, it would have never happened ever. So we're 2206 02:10:22,710 --> 02:10:25,530 highly appreciative. All these producers who help us out 2207 02:10:25,530 --> 02:10:29,010 sending a story sending us clips, giving us their 2208 02:10:29,010 --> 02:10:31,560 expertise. Everybody's an expert at something. And one of the 2209 02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:36,270 expertise is a number of people have is creating artwork. And we 2210 02:10:36,270 --> 02:10:39,840 are one of the few shows that has changing new artwork for 2211 02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:44,280 every single episode. And we'd like to thank and highlight the 2212 02:10:44,280 --> 02:10:47,010 artist who does that for the previous episode. That was 2213 02:10:47,010 --> 02:10:53,010 915 64 1564 episodes of this show. We titled that one Zombie 2214 02:10:53,010 --> 02:10:58,050 Town. And the art came to us from Dame Kenny Ben, which was 2215 02:10:58,050 --> 02:11:03,750 just a beautiful a beautiful piece popped like crazy, because 2216 02:11:03,750 --> 02:11:07,170 had a white background. I love that and it was a bowl full of 2217 02:11:07,170 --> 02:11:11,580 eyeballs. Which now what was the what was the eyeball thing 2218 02:11:11,580 --> 02:11:13,830 about? I can't remember it was it was a story. It 2219 02:11:13,830 --> 02:11:15,900 John C Dvorak: was the guy at Harvard that was selling body 2220 02:11:15,900 --> 02:11:18,840 parts I bought on Etsy and eBay. 2221 02:11:19,200 --> 02:11:21,390 Unknown: Yes. The ghoul 2222 02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:25,950 John C Dvorak: Yeah, so it was like guys making 100 grand a 2223 02:11:25,950 --> 02:11:29,130 year on the side besides being the head of the morgue at 2224 02:11:29,130 --> 02:11:30,240 Harvard or whatever. 2225 02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:34,020 Adam Curry: I mean, that's a little price tag little $33 for 2226 02:11:35,340 --> 02:11:39,420 all the balls ball a ball rival beautiful. Thank you, Dan. Kenny 2227 02:11:39,420 --> 02:11:43,230 been everyone's celebrated this everyone thought it was a great 2228 02:11:43,260 --> 02:11:46,530 a great choice. There were a couple other things that we 2229 02:11:46,530 --> 02:11:50,700 looked at. I had J 2230 02:11:50,700 --> 02:11:53,340 Unknown: con scaler quite fond of one piece 2231 02:11:53,460 --> 02:11:55,560 Adam Curry: while the J con sketch one I thought was kind of 2232 02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:59,010 cool because he was talking about it was the eagle American 2233 02:11:59,010 --> 02:12:05,820 Eagle. pierced by an ESG dei and an SEL arrow which was kind of a 2234 02:12:05,820 --> 02:12:08,850 symbolic thing and you pointed out that we had not spoken about 2235 02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:14,970 ESG or dei only the SEL social emotional learning and so that 2236 02:12:14,970 --> 02:12:18,510 kind of nixed that there was another one kind of behind you 2237 02:12:18,510 --> 02:12:19,290 like I liked 2238 02:12:19,290 --> 02:12:22,770 Unknown: the Bible one a little bit it'd be aI Bible 2239 02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:25,110 Adam Curry: what was that what was that about again? The 2240 02:12:25,110 --> 02:12:29,340 John C Dvorak: night goes because we talked about AI Yeah, 2241 02:12:29,340 --> 02:12:30,720 I'll be right the Bible 2242 02:12:30,750 --> 02:12:35,820 Adam Curry: yeah new religion coming Yes. Then we had some 2243 02:12:35,820 --> 02:12:43,830 zombie towns which are okay was that it? Some other AI with a 2244 02:12:43,830 --> 02:12:50,820 dinosaur Ai no agenda dinosaur. Matthew dropped Coast deer with 2245 02:12:50,820 --> 02:12:53,310 the bug guys made me laugh but it wasn't didn't really make 2246 02:12:53,310 --> 02:12:53,940 sense. 2247 02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:58,140 Unknown: It made no sense. And 2248 02:12:58,140 --> 02:13:01,260 Adam Curry: damn, Kenny Ben did give us a chuckle with the blue 2249 02:13:01,260 --> 02:13:06,900 dress. The Spotted blue dress with a cigar is even even titled 2250 02:13:06,900 --> 02:13:09,000 A cheap joke. Yeah, 2251 02:13:09,030 --> 02:13:11,250 Unknown: it was a cheap joke was a cheap joke, but 2252 02:13:11,370 --> 02:13:16,680 Adam Curry: thank you. We got we got a chuckle out of it. And was 2253 02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:20,850 that it? Pretty much think that was kind of it? Yeah, 2254 02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:23,130 John C Dvorak: I mean, the one thing there was a couple pieces 2255 02:13:23,130 --> 02:13:28,860 that was the what was the title of the show? I forgot. Zombie 2256 02:13:28,860 --> 02:13:32,370 Town Zombie Town. Yeah, I kind of like the Matthew drop co 2257 02:13:32,370 --> 02:13:37,320 Zombie Town version two of the San Francisco sign. Yeah, but 2258 02:13:37,320 --> 02:13:40,500 we're going to use Yeah, we tried to keep the DI ball art 2259 02:13:40,500 --> 02:13:41,850 was gonna win. So 2260 02:13:41,910 --> 02:13:47,670 Adam Curry: the other one is more more. D had an AI Bible, 2261 02:13:47,670 --> 02:13:51,000 which is a magic eight ball is a little a little too complicated. 2262 02:13:51,900 --> 02:13:54,330 But eight balls have been a staple. I 2263 02:13:54,330 --> 02:13:58,080 Unknown: think of art. Yes, the magic at all has 2264 02:13:58,080 --> 02:14:01,560 Adam Curry: come back from time to time. defended the show. So 2265 02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:05,820 thank you, friend to the show. Thank you damn Kenny, Ben and to 2266 02:14:05,820 --> 02:14:09,120 all the artists who are always doing fabulous work AI generated 2267 02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:13,560 or not ICU comics or Blogger. We appreciate it. You're doing 2268 02:14:13,620 --> 02:14:17,010 yeoman's work. It is beautiful. It is a great way to contribute 2269 02:14:17,010 --> 02:14:20,280 to the show, which as you know is time talent or treasure. And 2270 02:14:20,280 --> 02:14:23,490 we do have some people who are celebrating Father's Day with us 2271 02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:27,810 again we're working on Father's Day and they donated their 2272 02:14:27,810 --> 02:14:32,310 treasure it is always welcomed and absolutely needed. We have 2273 02:14:32,310 --> 02:14:33,240 no other gigs 2274 02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:37,410 John C Dvorak: and we've been I would like to I was somewhat 2275 02:14:37,410 --> 02:14:42,360 bewildered by the fact that we got a lot of you know we had our 2276 02:14:42,360 --> 02:14:46,890 judge say average donations but for Father's Day I really 2277 02:14:46,890 --> 02:14:51,030 expected someone to gift their father a knighthood and nobody 2278 02:14:51,030 --> 02:14:51,570 did it. 2279 02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:56,310 Adam Curry: No, no dads are on the outs man. That's that's just 2280 02:14:56,310 --> 02:15:03,300 a fact of life. Yeah, Father There's no longer needed I guess 2281 02:15:03,420 --> 02:15:07,170 I don't know I have no other explanation for it. But the ones 2282 02:15:07,170 --> 02:15:11,610 who did donate love their dads or their the dads they are 2283 02:15:11,610 --> 02:15:14,700 married to so there's there are some beautiful notes here and we 2284 02:15:14,700 --> 02:15:17,520 kick it off with our first executive producer. We'd like to 2285 02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:21,360 hand out these titles to the to the top donors and they're well 2286 02:15:21,360 --> 02:15:24,180 deserved and they're real. They're not some phony baloney 2287 02:15:24,180 --> 02:15:28,170 things actual title Bob Millsap isn't surprised Arizona and 2288 02:15:28,170 --> 02:15:32,100 kicks us off at 333 dot 33 And he says Shelly and I need a dee 2289 02:15:32,100 --> 02:15:32,310 doo 2290 02:15:34,920 --> 02:15:35,730 Unknown: dee doo 2291 02:15:37,740 --> 02:15:40,950 Adam Curry: ba Bob says evil COVID machine almost got me near 2292 02:15:40,950 --> 02:15:48,030 death and hospitalized for 53 days. December of 21 Oh I 2293 02:15:48,030 --> 02:15:51,510 remember this Tina saw my crazed fight on Instagram and started 2294 02:15:51,510 --> 02:15:55,500 pulling for me Thank you Tina. My book Shake yourself free is 2295 02:15:55,500 --> 02:15:58,740 out now. That's right the keeper. The keeper she was 2296 02:15:58,740 --> 02:16:02,190 following him. She saw that she was like holy crap and she was 2297 02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:05,430 she was definitely lifting him up as much as possible over the 2298 02:16:05,610 --> 02:16:09,900 over the interface over the Insta. His book Shake yourself 2299 02:16:09,900 --> 02:16:11,280 free is out now. 2300 02:16:13,980 --> 02:16:17,430 John C Dvorak: Dame Becky's next on the list. She's in Katy 2301 02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:23,790 Texas. Or K as they now say. Happy Father's Day to Sir Mike 2302 02:16:23,790 --> 02:16:30,660 of the great Katy Prairie from Dame Becky. best husband and 2303 02:16:30,660 --> 02:16:37,050 father ever. No jingles no karma $333.33 from Dame Becky. 2304 02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:42,420 Adam Curry: Felix Rios is in San Jose California. 333 33 I do not 2305 02:16:42,420 --> 02:16:43,590 have a note from Felix. 2306 02:16:43,619 --> 02:16:45,839 Unknown: I don't see I don't go I got nothing. 2307 02:16:45,869 --> 02:16:47,579 Adam Curry: I got nothing either. So we give them a double 2308 02:16:47,579 --> 02:16:52,229 of karma. Thank you for your work. You've got karma 2309 02:16:54,510 --> 02:16:58,170 John C Dvorak: banana, sir Luca of Walla Walla, Washington, 2310 02:16:58,950 --> 02:17:03,240 Walla Walla, Walla Walla, good winegrowing area by the way, ITM 2311 02:17:03,240 --> 02:17:10,380 chaps greetings from the south east. Here's the deal. I just 2312 02:17:10,380 --> 02:17:13,500 finished scanning my family photo album into a digital 2313 02:17:13,500 --> 02:17:17,580 format and you will never guess how many photos I scanned how 2314 02:17:17,580 --> 02:17:25,800 many photos Did you scan? 333 not a joke. So here's a donation 2315 02:17:25,800 --> 02:17:30,720 for $333 which is what his donation is. Jingles please, Gil 2316 02:17:30,750 --> 02:17:38,070 Abram son, vocal fry, Trump dumps jobs karma, the Pelosi 2317 02:17:38,070 --> 02:17:43,800 Trump Joe jobs variety and sign sir Luca of the south east. 2318 02:17:44,160 --> 02:17:47,910 Unknown: You know, obviously, I read I read The New York Times, 2319 02:17:47,910 --> 02:17:52,260 like all day long, mainly on my iPad. 2320 02:17:53,070 --> 02:17:57,750 They did dumps they call them dumps big massive dump jobs, 2321 02:17:57,750 --> 02:18:03,660 jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for 2322 02:18:11,820 --> 02:18:17,430 Adam Curry: Tracy Leslie is in Bremerton, Washington. 310 25. 2323 02:18:17,430 --> 02:18:21,630 Must be a reason for that. It's a switcheroo note with hopes of 2324 02:18:21,630 --> 02:18:24,480 being read during the show around Father's Day. Well, there 2325 02:18:24,480 --> 02:18:30,450 you go. It's enfant Nailed it. Nailed it. $310.20 $5 donation 2326 02:18:30,450 --> 02:18:33,930 towards the knighthood of Sir Brian Leslie of Brimelow. In 2327 02:18:33,930 --> 02:18:38,100 celebration of his fatherhood magnificence, he's off often 2328 02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:41,700 perplexed yet always grateful wife would like to acknowledge 2329 02:18:41,700 --> 02:18:45,600 Brian stellar wit and verve and taking care of her and their 2330 02:18:45,600 --> 02:18:49,200 three girls would not want you and literally could not do it 2331 02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:54,720 without you. You are loved. That's a sweet note. Very nice 2332 02:18:54,720 --> 02:18:57,900 note and the switcheroo my wife and three girls that means 2333 02:18:57,900 --> 02:19:01,380 everyone telling him he's wrong. All the time. 2334 02:19:01,800 --> 02:19:11,220 John C Dvorak: All the time. Sir, Ill Pope de ciclismo I'm 2335 02:19:11,220 --> 02:19:17,100 guessing in Rio Verde, Arizona. The birth of a degree row is a 2336 02:19:17,100 --> 02:19:18,660 Adam Curry: black night actually black. 2337 02:19:18,990 --> 02:19:21,090 John C Dvorak: Hello gents. Thanks for your outstanding 2338 02:19:21,090 --> 02:19:24,900 work. Please accept this humble donation as a token of my 2339 02:19:25,080 --> 02:19:29,820 admiration for the sanity pills you provided us on a regular 2340 02:19:29,820 --> 02:19:35,520 basis. Back in early May, I was unceremoniously made redundant 2341 02:19:35,700 --> 02:19:39,540 at my job despite 12 years of great performance reviews and 2342 02:19:39,540 --> 02:19:43,440 significant contributions to the company. If you're redundant me 2343 02:19:43,440 --> 02:19:46,740 somebody else is doing your job. Why weren't they redundant? 2344 02:19:46,770 --> 02:19:52,200 Yeah, because they get paid less. Yeah, but Fear not. Fear 2345 02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:56,130 not Monday I'll be back into the slave force as I landed a new 2346 02:19:56,130 --> 02:20:00,480 job my wife and I are trying to close this chapter of our lives 2347 02:20:00,480 --> 02:20:06,060 and embark on a new adventure I'm in need of house sale karma 2348 02:20:06,060 --> 02:20:09,360 and general life karma Could you please send some my way as 2349 02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:16,920 always misbehave and have fun sir it Popa day clears ciclismo 2350 02:20:16,980 --> 02:20:17,700 Blacknight 2351 02:20:17,730 --> 02:20:20,220 Adam Curry: you got it that means well if you want to have 2352 02:20:20,220 --> 02:20:22,560 that need a little bit of goat at it you've got 2353 02:20:27,660 --> 02:20:31,440 then we have a row of ducks for our first Associate Executive 2354 02:20:31,440 --> 02:20:34,740 Producer ship and this comes from the Indiana no agenda meet 2355 02:20:34,740 --> 02:20:39,030 up which means they they collected that and they decide 2356 02:20:39,030 --> 02:20:42,000 who gets it sometimes with fun and games sometimes. Who knows 2357 02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:44,160 how they do it. Maybe it's a switcheroo There you go. 2358 02:20:44,490 --> 02:20:48,570 Associate Executive Producer donation for Alicia Mac Homer. 2359 02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:53,130 Let me just do that right now. Make sure we credit you properly 2360 02:20:53,160 --> 02:20:57,630 Alicia. In The Morning John Adam this at this past indie no 2361 02:20:57,630 --> 02:21:00,510 agenda meetup, I got the chance to look at Mimi's book too many 2362 02:21:00,510 --> 02:21:03,630 eggs too many books, too many books not too many. eggs.com 2363 02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:08,910 That book is amazing. The size of the book is small compared to 2364 02:21:08,910 --> 02:21:11,700 the amount of information contained and I love it. It's a 2365 02:21:11,700 --> 02:21:16,080 big book. I thought it was in fact when we got it it was I 2366 02:21:16,080 --> 02:21:20,010 thought it wasn't small as hefty was a nice month nice products. 2367 02:21:20,490 --> 02:21:24,330 I'll be buying myself a copy to keep I'm only 22 years old and I 2368 02:21:24,330 --> 02:21:27,930 love to cook and I practice to become a better cook every day. 2369 02:21:28,020 --> 02:21:30,690 I never knew eggs could be cooked in so many ways in this 2370 02:21:30,690 --> 02:21:33,990 book will definitely keep my breakfast interesting for quite 2371 02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:37,500 some time, not just breakfast recipes. Thank you guys for 2372 02:21:37,500 --> 02:21:39,720 putting together the best podcast in the universe. I love 2373 02:21:39,720 --> 02:21:42,660 it when John makes book and movie recommendations. If only 2374 02:21:42,660 --> 02:21:43,890 he would make a list. 2375 02:21:44,400 --> 02:21:47,190 Unknown: I'd like I'd like to order lists online. 2376 02:21:47,400 --> 02:21:50,490 Adam Curry: Yeah, there's plenty of no agenda book club lists, go 2377 02:21:50,490 --> 02:21:56,790 to girl this.org I think I'd like to request jobs karma from 2378 02:21:56,790 --> 02:21:59,400 my boyfriend Joshua. And if I could get a goat karma for my 2379 02:21:59,400 --> 02:22:03,720 birthday, which is on June 18. Sincerely, Alicia McComber you 2380 02:22:03,720 --> 02:22:06,000 got it. We're going to do jobs and goat together 2381 02:22:06,029 --> 02:22:09,869 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's 2382 02:22:17,850 --> 02:22:21,570 John C Dvorak: Ralph plain ol Ralph in Miami, Florida. 200. 2383 02:22:21,720 --> 02:22:25,560 Happy Father's Day to both of you. And all fathers and dads in 2384 02:22:25,560 --> 02:22:28,350 the no agenda nation. Please send me some Father's Day karma 2385 02:22:28,620 --> 02:22:33,630 or send some to my dad. Ralph Sr. In Miami. Yes, Ralph in 2386 02:22:33,630 --> 02:22:34,050 Miami. 2387 02:22:34,110 --> 02:22:38,220 Adam Curry: You got it, Ralph. You've got karma. By the way. 2388 02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:42,030 Those of you still here the magic numbers are coming up soon 2389 02:22:42,060 --> 02:22:46,920 in the donation segment along with our special interview. Amy 2390 02:22:46,920 --> 02:22:51,210 Lynn in Cold Spring Minnesota $200 Associate Executive 2391 02:22:51,210 --> 02:22:54,090 Producer ship and she is switcheroo in that for Dan the 2392 02:22:54,090 --> 02:22:57,750 man and says oh that's her smokin hot husband Dan the man 2393 02:22:57,780 --> 02:23:01,170 happy Father's Day my smokin hot husband Dan the man. You're an 2394 02:23:01,170 --> 02:23:06,690 amazing dad to our sassy human resource Kocaeli think this is 2395 02:23:06,690 --> 02:23:10,350 you pronounce that Kaylee with an ex saili I think it's 2396 02:23:10,350 --> 02:23:11,010 Caitlyn. I 2397 02:23:11,010 --> 02:23:16,050 Unknown: think it's che che che li che li y l i 2398 02:23:16,080 --> 02:23:19,500 Adam Curry: interesting. That's an interesting have a cool name. 2399 02:23:19,530 --> 02:23:24,510 Yeah. So like, like kind of like an Elon Musk kid name in a way. 2400 02:23:25,800 --> 02:23:30,120 Just saying. That's cool. And thank you for all the support in 2401 02:23:30,120 --> 02:23:34,800 my new business venture. We love you your wife Amy Lynn not a 2402 02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:39,630 stripper strippers. It's a good strippers, 2403 02:23:40,350 --> 02:23:42,870 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs 2404 02:23:54,090 --> 02:23:57,090 then elu patcon there you go you 2405 02:23:57,090 --> 02:23:58,650 Adam Curry: finally get to week two 2406 02:23:58,980 --> 02:24:00,000 Unknown: yeah every week 2407 02:24:00,030 --> 02:24:00,720 Adam Curry: every week 2408 02:24:01,440 --> 02:24:03,690 John C Dvorak: in Lakewood, Colorado and jobs coming for all 2409 02:24:03,690 --> 02:24:07,680 you job hunters out there for a competitive edge. Go to Image 2410 02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:12,660 makers inc.com For all your executive resume and job search 2411 02:24:12,660 --> 02:24:18,360 needs are just fine little patcon on the show's executive 2412 02:24:18,360 --> 02:24:23,850 producer list and run a search very nice so Okay, whether she 2413 02:24:23,850 --> 02:24:27,690 gets karma she needs jobs karma for when 2414 02:24:27,720 --> 02:24:30,330 Adam Curry: we yeah, we can do the jobs Carmen no problem 2415 02:24:30,360 --> 02:24:35,490 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. 2416 02:24:37,980 --> 02:24:40,050 John C Dvorak: Well, that was me cleaning up on this donation 2417 02:24:40,050 --> 02:24:41,460 every week at 20 bucks, 2418 02:24:41,730 --> 02:24:44,490 Adam Curry: I think is probably doing good business for somehow 2419 02:24:44,520 --> 02:24:49,500 which is okay by me. I got no problem with it. Oh, boy, 2420 02:24:49,530 --> 02:24:51,870 something looks like something is messed up with my meet up 2421 02:24:51,870 --> 02:24:54,930 reports. I'm gonna have to look for this. Well, good news, 2422 02:24:54,930 --> 02:24:57,030 because we're going to go straight through we have no nice 2423 02:24:57,030 --> 02:24:59,430 things. And we do have some meetup, reports and meetup 2424 02:24:59,430 --> 02:24:59,970 promos. 2425 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,400 John C Dvorak: No nice things on Father's Day. I 2426 02:25:02,400 --> 02:25:05,340 Adam Curry: know I know it's a little disappointing but John is 2427 02:25:05,340 --> 02:25:09,180 going to take us through the hundreds since we did promise to 2428 02:25:09,570 --> 02:25:13,950 mention all these Father's Day donations and through to the 50s 2429 02:25:14,310 --> 02:25:15,240 and here we go. 2430 02:25:16,590 --> 02:25:21,060 John C Dvorak: Frankie T starts us off in London, UK $156.40 2431 02:25:21,930 --> 02:25:23,280 Nisa de douching 2432 02:25:25,530 --> 02:25:27,360 Unknown: you've been de deuced 2433 02:25:27,960 --> 02:25:32,040 John C Dvorak: Terry Wilson Langley, Washington $150. Lydia 2434 02:25:32,040 --> 02:25:38,340 Terry B. Dominic Ali and Clifton Park, New York. 133 33. And this 2435 02:25:38,340 --> 02:25:43,440 is Happy Father's Day to shore geek heretic, Crystal Garza in 2436 02:25:43,440 --> 02:25:47,850 Dripping Springs right down the road is right down the road 2437 02:25:48,060 --> 02:25:54,630 117 18 And this is a switcheroo credit to Gilberto Garza. He 2438 02:25:54,630 --> 02:25:55,500 needs it he douching 2439 02:25:57,360 --> 02:25:59,190 Unknown: you've been D deuced. 2440 02:25:59,370 --> 02:26:02,790 John C Dvorak: Happy Father's anonymous in Atlanta, Georgia. 2441 02:26:02,790 --> 02:26:08,430 $101 Dame Becky and Sir Mike and Katy Texas. Happy Father's Day 2442 02:26:08,430 --> 02:26:11,760 to our number one human resource and father of 10 grand human 2443 02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:17,850 worthwhile. Chris Kinney. Chris is in a mouth Okay, Chris, sir 2444 02:26:17,850 --> 02:26:23,400 Stuart and Stafford, UK Staffordshire, UK, to my father 2445 02:26:23,400 --> 02:26:28,320 Ken, who died 22 years ago on Father's Day, playing his last 2446 02:26:28,320 --> 02:26:32,610 game of golf. Oh, wow. Let me see one out while putting on a 2447 02:26:32,610 --> 02:26:38,430 par for the 11th hole. I missed you every day. That's from susur 2448 02:26:38,430 --> 02:26:42,990 Stewart's Kevin McLaughlin, Lucas, North Carolina. And he 2449 02:26:42,990 --> 02:26:49,320 has a Father's Day call out to boobs. 808 Yes. Central Jersey 2450 02:26:49,320 --> 02:26:53,130 meetup in Portland, New Jersey. Switcheroo coaster donation from 2451 02:26:53,130 --> 02:26:59,550 the Central Jersey meetup for Craig Cut. Cut caccia Christine 2452 02:26:59,550 --> 02:27:06,060 Kalba in Kelowna, Kelowna BC, and that's a Happy Father's Day 2453 02:27:06,060 --> 02:27:11,520 to her smoking out husband, Ian. Sir Rick in Arlington, 2454 02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:19,080 Washington, who kitchen his name every time now. 69960 Rick, and 2455 02:27:19,080 --> 02:27:23,670 congratulations to Jay for doing that. All Rick Harkins in Vienna 2456 02:27:23,670 --> 02:27:32,370 new start in Austria, Vienna news dot Vienna news dot 6767 2457 02:27:32,940 --> 02:27:37,020 Read a Harrington in Sparks Nevada six 533 Happy Father's 2458 02:27:37,020 --> 02:27:40,560 Day John and Adam and all the dads to Kevin O'Brien is Chicago 2459 02:27:40,560 --> 02:27:47,220 Illinois. 606 sure b and a Nashville Tennessee 5993 which 2460 02:27:47,220 --> 02:27:51,780 is eggs over easy. Sir Brian Tobias and in Gardner, Kansas 2461 02:27:52,170 --> 02:27:59,610 5888. Sir Doherty and Stephen City, Virginia 2678 Happy 2462 02:27:59,670 --> 02:28:05,700 Father's Day not Jake. Richard Futter in London UK Sir Richard 2463 02:28:05,700 --> 02:28:11,340 5155 10 James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey. 5510. 2464 02:28:11,340 --> 02:28:15,870 That's double nickels on the dime. Dean Roker 5510 Jennifer 2465 02:28:15,870 --> 02:28:20,970 Hanson and Braintree, Massachusetts 5510 wishing the 2466 02:28:20,970 --> 02:28:27,660 best dad in the universe Don Hansen. Happy Father's Day. Love 2467 02:28:27,660 --> 02:28:31,620 him very much. Troy funderburk in Spokane, Washington, 55. 2468 02:28:31,620 --> 02:28:37,140 Barron Henry and Rancho Palos Verdes 5242 Bart Viken in 2469 02:28:37,260 --> 02:28:44,280 Haarlem, Netherlands he's a man overboard who's back he says a 2470 02:28:44,280 --> 02:28:44,940 de douching 2471 02:28:44,970 --> 02:28:46,950 Adam Curry: says he listened from the Early Start lost 2472 02:28:46,950 --> 02:28:49,560 interest started listening again a few years later bought a 2473 02:28:49,560 --> 02:28:53,340 couple mugs from the no agenda store which by the way is before 2474 02:28:53,340 --> 02:28:56,880 the store and the and the artists mainly never donated. 2475 02:28:58,740 --> 02:29:00,570 Unknown: You've been de deuced 2476 02:29:02,790 --> 02:29:06,330 John C Dvorak: caller Warnock in Edmonton Oklahoma. switch router 2477 02:29:06,330 --> 02:29:12,360 my dad David merchants toward his knighthood love you Father's 2478 02:29:12,420 --> 02:29:15,840 love you Father. The Father pops Father's Day pops. We love you 2479 02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:19,230 and appreciate everything you do. John Ford in McKinney, 2480 02:29:19,230 --> 02:29:26,550 Texas. 51 for John arcade Jr. I guess. Thomas Ballmer in Iowa 2481 02:29:26,550 --> 02:29:31,650 City, Iowa Happy Father's Day to my dad John Ballmer. 5005 or 2482 02:29:31,650 --> 02:29:37,500 5050 Actually, Andrew Ben's in Imperial Missouri. That's 5005 2483 02:29:37,530 --> 02:29:40,980 Kimberly Burton in Greenville, Michigan is 50 with a Father's 2484 02:29:40,980 --> 02:29:44,280 Day to her husband, Jodi, thank you so much for being a 2485 02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:48,960 wonderful dad to our boys. Michael McKinnis, Iowa, Kansas. 2486 02:29:48,960 --> 02:29:53,790 These are all 50s is 58. You're on the birthday list. Stevens 2487 02:29:53,790 --> 02:29:58,230 Schumacher and Xenia Ohio 50 Peter odo enriched New York, 2488 02:29:58,440 --> 02:30:03,120 Joan Paul's in her Nando Beach, Florida, Nathan Cochran in 2489 02:30:03,120 --> 02:30:08,370 Hollywood, Florida. Alexandre ver de HO and Gig Harbor 2490 02:30:08,370 --> 02:30:14,370 Washington gadget freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois, Scott 2491 02:30:14,370 --> 02:30:18,330 lavender in Montgomery, Texas, Cory Bennett in Denver, 2492 02:30:18,330 --> 02:30:22,980 Colorado, Travis more in Gibsonville, North Carolina 2493 02:30:22,980 --> 02:30:25,680 Happy Father's Day to the best podcast and all the dads out 2494 02:30:25,680 --> 02:30:31,590 there. Now Alexis Robles in Chula Vista, California. John 2495 02:30:31,590 --> 02:30:42,420 Emma do not a lady. Thanks guys. Well, Lexus's would probably be 2496 02:30:42,420 --> 02:30:48,690 referred to as the lady a lot. I'll try to remember sir Eric in 2497 02:30:48,690 --> 02:30:53,250 Murfreesboro, Tennessee 50. It was to give a posh Miss Happy 2498 02:30:53,250 --> 02:30:56,370 Father's Day to his dad Ben. You're loved and missed every 2499 02:30:56,370 --> 02:31:02,460 day. The Anne Shipley in Covington, Washington. 50. Sir 2500 02:31:02,460 --> 02:31:07,710 spud the mighty in Marietta, Georgia or GRE ring and Roth in 2501 02:31:07,710 --> 02:31:11,760 Saugus, California and last on our list is Baron Allen being up 2502 02:31:11,760 --> 02:31:13,920 there in Beaverton Oregon. I want to thank these people for 2503 02:31:13,920 --> 02:31:18,300 making show 1565 a great show thank you very much. 2504 02:31:18,330 --> 02:31:21,000 Adam Curry: Yes, we really appreciate it especially for 2505 02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:23,130 executive and Associate Executive Producers Those are 2506 02:31:23,130 --> 02:31:26,100 real titles you can use them anywhere the titles are 2507 02:31:26,100 --> 02:31:31,620 recognized IMDb, LinkedIn, your resume, everything counts. Also 2508 02:31:31,620 --> 02:31:34,680 thank you so much to people who come in under $50 You are the 2509 02:31:34,680 --> 02:31:38,100 ones who are on sustaining donations these are very much 2510 02:31:38,100 --> 02:31:40,830 appreciated and you know from time to time checking count 2511 02:31:40,830 --> 02:31:43,230 before you know what you reach that knighthood or that Dame 2512 02:31:43,230 --> 02:31:45,930 hood thank you all so much for supporting the best podcast in 2513 02:31:45,930 --> 02:31:47,010 the universe episode 2514 02:31:52,500 --> 02:31:55,050 Unknown: we go out for yet people in the mouth 2515 02:32:14,610 --> 02:32:17,970 Adam Curry: nice little lesson. We got to jet Ron and Chester 2516 02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:20,880 are celebrating today sir Jeff tow wig. I think he's 2517 02:32:21,240 --> 02:32:24,570 celebrating on the 20th lauric hurricanes wishes his smokin hot 2518 02:32:24,570 --> 02:32:28,620 girlfriend Eva Happy birthday, she turns 46 on the 21st Derek 2519 02:32:28,620 --> 02:32:32,100 by the way wishes his son Brexit a happy birthday on the 22nd 2520 02:32:32,100 --> 02:32:35,670 Michael Guinness is turning 50 and Blake wishes his smokin hot 2521 02:32:35,670 --> 02:32:38,700 girlfriend and future smokin hot wife marry a happy birthday she 2522 02:32:38,700 --> 02:32:41,670 turns 28 Happy birthday from everybody. Here's the best 2523 02:32:41,670 --> 02:32:47,730 podcast in the universe. Thank you sparkles for the chaos, a 2524 02:32:47,730 --> 02:32:50,490 sparkles of chaos for the art you sent. It was very beautiful. 2525 02:32:50,490 --> 02:32:52,980 I appreciated that no one said 2526 02:32:59,700 --> 02:33:00,900 Unknown: Now it's very important 2527 02:33:01,500 --> 02:33:03,270 Adam Curry: to understand that throughout the years, we've 2528 02:33:03,270 --> 02:33:07,200 created these no agenda meetups, which initially was something 2529 02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:10,110 John and I would go to and there would be a whole bunch of people 2530 02:33:10,110 --> 02:33:13,320 getting together and then you know we we'd hang out and we do 2531 02:33:13,320 --> 02:33:16,830 this still do that from time to time when appropriate when 2532 02:33:16,830 --> 02:33:19,860 applicable. Of course, you know, it's very busy and We're old 2533 02:33:19,860 --> 02:33:24,510 now. It takes a little bit more to get us out of the house. But 2534 02:33:24,810 --> 02:33:29,100 But what what happened is this was such a popular idea. People 2535 02:33:29,100 --> 02:33:32,010 really needed that connection amongst each other you had you 2536 02:33:32,010 --> 02:33:35,400 are a community, you're part of no agenda nation, people have a 2537 02:33:35,400 --> 02:33:38,910 lot to discuss. And these days, particularly after COVID It's 2538 02:33:38,910 --> 02:33:41,550 needed more and more you need a place to go and hang out with 2539 02:33:41,550 --> 02:33:45,990 people. By the way, people have also met at meetups and have 2540 02:33:45,990 --> 02:33:49,350 gone on to get married and have kids. This is a great place just 2541 02:33:49,350 --> 02:33:52,230 to get out. You don't have to worry about and you can discuss 2542 02:33:52,230 --> 02:33:56,970 anything. Nothing is on or off the table. There's no condemning 2543 02:33:56,970 --> 02:34:00,030 of anything everybody can have an opinion. It's all it's all 2544 02:34:00,030 --> 02:34:03,780 beautiful. It's very, very special the way no agenda 2545 02:34:03,780 --> 02:34:07,500 meetups are run. And before you knew it, we were doing that on 2546 02:34:07,500 --> 02:34:11,250 meetup.com and then Mimi was running that and it was That's a 2547 02:34:11,250 --> 02:34:15,720 horrible service and then insects. Now knights are Daniel 2548 02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:20,040 he created no agenda meetup.com It's become a thing. And today 2549 02:34:20,040 --> 02:34:23,160 we have quite a number of promos and meet up reports and let's go 2550 02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:24,900 to the Midcoast maniacs first. 2551 02:34:26,220 --> 02:34:29,490 Unknown: Adam and John it's Brian from the Midcoast maniacs 2552 02:34:29,490 --> 02:34:32,580 meetup and there were four of us here tonight. We're having a 2553 02:34:32,580 --> 02:34:35,820 great time with pizza and salad from Dame head gardener which 2554 02:34:35,820 --> 02:34:39,720 I'm gonna pass the phone to, but la Manyana it's damn head 2555 02:34:39,720 --> 02:34:43,230 gardener. This is Ivana this bag 2556 02:34:44,250 --> 02:34:47,460 douchebag future Jame 2557 02:34:48,630 --> 02:34:54,840 no deducing. We had a great time. We were looking forward to 2558 02:34:54,840 --> 02:34:58,830 the Scarborough meet up down south pretty soon in northern 2559 02:34:58,830 --> 02:35:01,590 Massachusetts and Other meetup here in the mid coast 2560 02:35:01,890 --> 02:35:04,500 Adam Curry: so Brian and Susie Of course we know them did a 2561 02:35:04,500 --> 02:35:07,710 personal meet up with them many many years ago Zombie Town says 2562 02:35:07,740 --> 02:35:10,410 Unknown: aloha in the morning everybody sir Ernesto here 2563 02:35:12,600 --> 02:35:26,790 movers number seven. Mrs. Number seven number seven in the 2564 02:35:26,790 --> 02:35:30,420 morning John and Adam and I all know each other nation. We're at 2565 02:35:30,420 --> 02:35:35,010 the Red 33 Red 33 Casanova 33 that looking at Bruce Cathy 2566 02:35:35,010 --> 02:35:39,690 books to check out harmonic 371244 energy grid and 2567 02:35:40,170 --> 02:35:41,250 especially harmonics 2568 02:35:42,780 --> 02:35:48,360 Adam Curry: thank you for your coverage in the moment I'm not 2569 02:35:48,360 --> 02:35:51,000 exactly sure but I think we just got brainwashed. I'm not sure 2570 02:35:51,000 --> 02:35:54,120 exactly what that was about. Kingston 2571 02:35:55,170 --> 02:36:00,420 Unknown: I TM get mo nation. It's the one and only a white 2572 02:36:00,420 --> 02:36:04,920 Mike coming at you from the Kingstowne house party meetup Oh 2573 02:36:04,920 --> 02:36:08,160 yes, the pillows were fluffed the curtains were steamed. 2574 02:36:08,430 --> 02:36:12,120 Champagne was on ice. It was a party fit for Queen Ursula 2575 02:36:12,120 --> 02:36:17,400 herself. I even to take JC D's watch out for the microphones 2576 02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:22,380 literally strapped a Neumann mic to the ceiling fans so that that 2577 02:36:22,380 --> 02:36:27,570 could add just a little bit of pizzazz. But no one dared show 2578 02:36:27,630 --> 02:36:31,680 up. Unfortunately. I get it. It's a Thursday. I'll try some 2579 02:36:31,680 --> 02:36:35,250 other configurations. In the meantime, thank you for your 2580 02:36:35,250 --> 02:36:35,820 courage. 2581 02:36:35,940 --> 02:36:39,180 Adam Curry: Yeah, this was a brand new meet up he was trying 2582 02:36:39,180 --> 02:36:42,360 at his home he uh we called him a spook Of course. He's in 2583 02:36:42,390 --> 02:36:46,260 Virginia and and next time people go to this he sounds like 2584 02:36:46,260 --> 02:36:49,950 a cool dude. And he's got Neumann mics so make sure you 2585 02:36:49,950 --> 02:36:53,640 check that out. Now always a good report coming in from the 2586 02:36:53,640 --> 02:36:56,250 indie folks. This is the indie June meetup mix. 2587 02:36:57,240 --> 02:37:00,810 Unknown: This is de Maria and this is a Sir Mark rain. 2588 02:37:00,810 --> 02:37:04,320 Dienstag has to have an amazing meetup and prodigy burger. Yeah, 2589 02:37:04,320 --> 02:37:06,480 baby from Indiana and try it out. 2590 02:37:06,510 --> 02:37:11,760 Listen up slaves. GMO is now cold biII. For bioengineering 2591 02:37:11,790 --> 02:37:14,910 meet the new boss. It's the same as the old boss 2592 02:37:14,940 --> 02:37:15,900 in the morning baby 2593 02:37:15,930 --> 02:37:19,020 powder from Indianapolis haven't had six glasses today, but it's 2594 02:37:19,020 --> 02:37:19,560 still been good. 2595 02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:21,810 Thank you for your courage. Hi, this is Cindy from Carmel. Thank 2596 02:37:21,810 --> 02:37:24,420 you for your courage in the morning. Hello. It's Christie 2597 02:37:24,420 --> 02:37:27,810 from Carmel. Hi, it's Brooke from Carmel Jason from Carmel 2598 02:37:27,840 --> 02:37:31,530 sir Betty saying hello to everybody out there. In the 2599 02:37:31,530 --> 02:37:33,420 morning swanning this is Shana from 2600 02:37:33,420 --> 02:37:36,990 Fort Wayne in the morning in the morning. Yes, sir. PBR street 2601 02:37:36,990 --> 02:37:39,720 gang. John Adams. Thank you for your courage. Hope to see you 2602 02:37:39,720 --> 02:37:39,990 soon. 2603 02:37:40,020 --> 02:37:43,290 Dame Trinity from Fort Wayne having a great time in Hindi. 2604 02:37:43,320 --> 02:37:44,310 Thank you for your courage. 2605 02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:48,030 This is serve of the Maipo and we had a fantastic meet up 2606 02:37:48,030 --> 02:37:51,180 today. Great food. Great company, so many beers to come 2607 02:37:51,210 --> 02:37:51,660 in the morning. 2608 02:37:52,140 --> 02:37:55,320 This is Nick come he had a pretty fantastic time. According 2609 02:37:55,320 --> 02:37:57,570 to Trevor, I would agree. Thank you 2610 02:37:57,630 --> 02:38:00,450 in the morning. This is Alicia. Good day to have a meet up 2611 02:38:00,450 --> 02:38:03,870 inside and the winner of the raffle. My name is Maggie 2612 02:38:03,870 --> 02:38:06,540 Delaney. I work at prodigy burger bar. And I've been 2613 02:38:06,540 --> 02:38:09,360 helping serving the nodes and a meetup group we hope that you 2614 02:38:09,360 --> 02:38:11,820 guys keep doing this because it's a great thing you guys do 2615 02:38:11,820 --> 02:38:11,970 it 2616 02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:21,600 Adam Curry: I was wondering what was going to end? Nice very 2617 02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:25,500 subliminal. Oh, no, no, no agenda. Very nice. With the 2618 02:38:25,500 --> 02:38:29,580 ozempic pilot. It's magic tune. And I love that you put your 2619 02:38:29,580 --> 02:38:33,270 server in there. That's the best way to do it. One more promo. 2620 02:38:34,710 --> 02:38:39,180 Oh, yes. Let me guess. This would be a promo for one of 2621 02:38:39,180 --> 02:38:44,400 those guys who do a meet up in Georgia. Because this is the 2622 02:38:44,400 --> 02:38:48,690 devil went down to Georgia. I think Hello promo start now 2623 02:38:48,690 --> 02:38:51,690 Unknown: in north Georgia slaves is Bob from coming. Come join us 2624 02:38:51,690 --> 02:38:54,240 this Thursday from six to eight at Cherry Street brew pub at 2625 02:38:54,240 --> 02:38:57,150 Halcyon for a monthly meetup. You can meet your fellow knights 2626 02:38:57,150 --> 02:38:59,940 dame's producers and even some douche bags over a nice cold 2627 02:38:59,940 --> 02:39:02,250 beer. Look for the table with the American flag balloons to 2628 02:39:02,250 --> 02:39:03,600 find us. See you there. 2629 02:39:04,170 --> 02:39:07,020 Adam Curry: And right now as we speak, there's a meetup going on 2630 02:39:07,020 --> 02:39:11,370 the Burke the Berkey Hui Hui. That's Albuquerque, New Mexico 2631 02:39:11,370 --> 02:39:14,910 that sir Jeff celebrating his birthday on the 20th On 2632 02:39:14,910 --> 02:39:18,690 Wednesday, the 21st. The two hot Tucson Solstice soiree will be 2633 02:39:18,690 --> 02:39:23,040 held at canyons crown in Tucson, Arizona four o'clock. Next show 2634 02:39:23,040 --> 02:39:26,760 day say hello to summer palooza. 330 Riverside Park, Oshkosh, 2635 02:39:26,760 --> 02:39:30,420 Wisconsin and the North Georgia monthly meet up as you just 2636 02:39:30,420 --> 02:39:33,240 heard, we'll be at Cherry Street brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. 2637 02:39:33,270 --> 02:39:35,850 Those are the meetups but there's a lot more including 2638 02:39:35,850 --> 02:39:40,470 Batavia, Illinois, London UK conference, who's doing the 2639 02:39:40,470 --> 02:39:44,130 conference meeting on July 9, let us know go to no agenda 2640 02:39:44,130 --> 02:39:46,650 meetups.com To find out more and remember connection is 2641 02:39:46,650 --> 02:39:50,220 protection. You owe it to yourself to go to one sometimes 2642 02:39:50,220 --> 02:39:57,240 Unknown: you want to go hang out with Tyson days. You wouldn't be 2643 02:39:57,240 --> 02:40:06,000 when you won't be triggered. You will say 2644 02:40:07,319 --> 02:40:13,709 Adam Curry: is like it is always like a party and the keeper and 2645 02:40:13,709 --> 02:40:17,309 I are looking forward to the end we are going to go on a European 2646 02:40:17,309 --> 02:40:21,329 vacation this year. I think we'll be doing all the shows a 2647 02:40:21,329 --> 02:40:24,539 scheduled might take one off just one for travel day because 2648 02:40:24,539 --> 02:40:28,589 we're gonna go to Spain we're going to Italy The Netherlands 2649 02:40:28,589 --> 02:40:31,889 gonna go see all the families the old people before they die, 2650 02:40:31,919 --> 02:40:32,669 you know stuff like that. 2651 02:40:33,180 --> 02:40:34,830 John C Dvorak: Yeah, sounds like a Leo trip. 2652 02:40:35,460 --> 02:40:37,560 Unknown: Hey, that's mean. 2653 02:40:39,600 --> 02:40:40,710 But yeah, for ISOs 2654 02:40:41,430 --> 02:40:42,750 Adam Curry: I have three here's number one. 2655 02:40:42,780 --> 02:40:45,690 Unknown: Yes. sighs yay. 2656 02:40:47,220 --> 02:40:50,850 Adam Curry: Just always go back to the AJ. Well, you know, or, 2657 02:40:51,330 --> 02:40:55,440 or this one while I'm impressed. Okay, kinda good. And this is my 2658 02:40:55,440 --> 02:40:57,000 final one. It was all a scam. 2659 02:40:59,250 --> 02:41:01,530 John C Dvorak: Okay, well you guys gone to my Well, let's go 2660 02:41:01,530 --> 02:41:03,420 with this. Start with God. Save. 2661 02:41:04,110 --> 02:41:05,850 Unknown: God save the Queen man. 2662 02:41:07,230 --> 02:41:10,410 Adam Curry: Yes, save the queen man. Man, man. 2663 02:41:11,010 --> 02:41:15,180 Unknown: Money. Where's the money? To boomy? Yeah, it's no 2664 02:41:15,180 --> 02:41:16,590 good. And no, 2665 02:41:16,680 --> 02:41:20,580 Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. Kind 2666 02:41:20,580 --> 02:41:21,780 of thing. That's the one. 2667 02:41:23,340 --> 02:41:24,390 Unknown: It's yeah, I like it. 2668 02:41:24,420 --> 02:41:25,770 Adam Curry: I mean, God Save the Queen is. 2669 02:41:26,040 --> 02:41:27,630 Unknown: God save the Queen, man. 2670 02:41:30,210 --> 02:41:31,710 It's too stupid. 2671 02:41:31,740 --> 02:41:34,650 Adam Curry: It is funny. I don't I don't. I'm torn. 2672 02:41:34,679 --> 02:41:38,609 Unknown: This is God. Save the Queen. Man. God save the Queen, 2673 02:41:38,609 --> 02:41:38,999 man. 2674 02:41:39,810 --> 02:41:42,810 Maybe you have to use I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 2675 02:41:42,810 --> 02:41:43,650 no, no, no, no. 2676 02:41:43,859 --> 02:41:45,149 Adam Curry: That's gonna get used. 2677 02:41:46,170 --> 02:41:49,290 Unknown: I don't know. Okay, use God Save the Queen. The Queen 2678 02:41:49,290 --> 02:41:50,130 Adam Curry: man because it's 2679 02:41:50,130 --> 02:41:52,680 Unknown: just a scared of man. And here's what makes it work, 2680 02:41:52,680 --> 02:41:54,120 man, man. 2681 02:41:56,010 --> 02:42:03,360 Adam Curry: Crazy. Oh, luckily, we've been missing it. We got 2682 02:42:03,360 --> 02:42:07,350 another six week cycle. Did you catch the six week cycle? 2683 02:42:09,030 --> 02:42:10,350 Unknown: I can't say that I have 2684 02:42:11,040 --> 02:42:12,390 Adam Curry: a reminder for everybody. 2685 02:42:12,630 --> 02:42:14,280 John C Dvorak: And I'm not on the lookout, which is an 2686 02:42:14,280 --> 02:42:16,140 interesting point that you mentioned it. 2687 02:42:16,680 --> 02:42:18,540 Adam Curry: Well, we haven't seen it for a while the six was 2688 02:42:18,540 --> 02:42:20,880 been a perpetual cycle basically. But the six week 2689 02:42:20,880 --> 02:42:25,980 cycle is something that we were read in on the FBI in particular 2690 02:42:26,160 --> 02:42:27,690 likes to Jackson Roni 2691 02:42:27,690 --> 02:42:31,470 John C Dvorak: are technically read in on it we were informed 2692 02:42:31,500 --> 02:42:32,820 by a yes, 2693 02:42:32,850 --> 02:42:37,380 Adam Curry: yeah. Okay. informed by a producer yes informed that 2694 02:42:37,380 --> 02:42:40,830 in order to keep their budgets and their stature and their 2695 02:42:40,830 --> 02:42:47,130 quotas up the FBI every six weeks needs to scam runs a scam 2696 02:42:47,280 --> 02:42:50,520 has to some have to have some event happens so they still look 2697 02:42:50,520 --> 02:42:53,220 like they're cool and doing stuff. And they usually take 2698 02:42:53,220 --> 02:42:57,990 some you know, mildly retarded person or someone who's on drugs 2699 02:42:57,990 --> 02:43:00,660 and you know, just and Jack them all up and then give him some 2700 02:43:00,660 --> 02:43:05,070 phony baloney stuff and then and of course was social media got 2701 02:43:05,070 --> 02:43:07,530 even easier. Hey, man, post this. Yeah, what are you going 2702 02:43:07,530 --> 02:43:09,810 to do? What are you going to do? Come on post me send me a text 2703 02:43:09,810 --> 02:43:11,070 message put it on Insta. 2704 02:43:11,400 --> 02:43:14,400 Unknown: Tonight in court filings. The FBI saying social 2705 02:43:14,400 --> 02:43:18,300 media accounts tied to a Michigan man posted Nazi imagery 2706 02:43:18,300 --> 02:43:22,440 and sent messages about planning a mass shooting at a synagogue 2707 02:43:22,470 --> 02:43:25,680 INVESTIGATORS SAY they received a tip about those alleged 2708 02:43:25,680 --> 02:43:29,070 threats to a 19 year old Shawn patella allegedly writing 2709 02:43:29,250 --> 02:43:32,460 expletive this world and everything in it. I'm going to 2710 02:43:32,460 --> 02:43:36,270 start making plans soon. Just gotta buy a few more things, 2711 02:43:36,450 --> 02:43:40,710 adding I won't be taken alive. I'll make sure of that. Federal 2712 02:43:40,740 --> 02:43:44,700 agents safety Tella traded anti semitic messages on Instagram 2713 02:43:44,700 --> 02:43:48,660 with a friend overseas writing I just need a camera for streaming 2714 02:43:48,750 --> 02:43:52,290 and some more magazines don't want to run out of mags and have 2715 02:43:52,290 --> 02:43:55,950 to reload one when FBI agents searched the Telus home court 2716 02:43:55,950 --> 02:43:59,820 filings say they found unsecured weapons including a 12 gauge 2717 02:43:59,820 --> 02:44:01,890 shotgun, a rifle a pistol 2718 02:44:01,980 --> 02:44:05,280 Adam Curry: unsecured weapons I liked that that's a new offense 2719 02:44:05,580 --> 02:44:08,490 unsecured weapons when FBI used 2720 02:44:08,490 --> 02:44:10,650 John C Dvorak: in other words, he had a shotgun without a 2721 02:44:10,680 --> 02:44:15,450 without a trigger lock on it. I guess it wasn't in a safe which 2722 02:44:15,450 --> 02:44:19,260 you know who has those don't want to run out of random 2723 02:44:19,260 --> 02:44:24,060 shotgun laying around and this is now illegal and you're gonna 2724 02:44:24,060 --> 02:44:25,380 get thrown in the slammer, 2725 02:44:25,470 --> 02:44:28,500 Unknown: uh, traded anti semitic messages on Instagram with a 2726 02:44:28,500 --> 02:44:32,610 friend overseas writing. I just need a camera for streaming and 2727 02:44:32,610 --> 02:44:36,060 some more magazines don't want to run out of mags and have to 2728 02:44:36,060 --> 02:44:39,570 reload one when FBI agents searched the Telus home court 2729 02:44:39,570 --> 02:44:43,440 filings say they found unsecured weapons including a 12 gauge 2730 02:44:43,440 --> 02:44:47,910 shotgun, a rifle, a pistol plus tactical vests and a red and 2731 02:44:47,910 --> 02:44:52,050 white Nazi flag on his phone agency. They found the name of a 2732 02:44:52,050 --> 02:44:57,180 Michigan synagogue and a date March 15 2020 For the same month 2733 02:44:57,210 --> 02:45:01,770 and day as the New Zealand mosque attack 18 that killed 51 2734 02:45:01,770 --> 02:45:05,580 people. Authorities say P Tella admired the gunman who 2735 02:45:05,580 --> 02:45:06,510 specifically 2736 02:45:06,510 --> 02:45:11,910 have to have a threat. And also ideally even a discussion or a 2737 02:45:11,910 --> 02:45:14,430 plan about how you're going to carry it out. 2738 02:45:14,490 --> 02:45:17,760 The anti Defamation League says anti semitic incidents spiked 2739 02:45:17,790 --> 02:45:23,970 36% between 2021 and 2020 to the highest on record in close to 50 2740 02:45:23,970 --> 02:45:27,180 years and attorney for Paitilla declined to comment but 2741 02:45:27,180 --> 02:45:30,720 investigators say he told them he did not intend on following 2742 02:45:30,720 --> 02:45:33,330 through with the mass killings he spoke about 2743 02:45:33,360 --> 02:45:36,930 denying it is fine, but there may be a lot of countering 2744 02:45:36,930 --> 02:45:40,590 information to say well, that's just not true. 2745 02:45:41,580 --> 02:45:44,430 Adam Curry: I love the Nazi flag edition that's a new thing the 2746 02:45:44,430 --> 02:45:46,470 Nazi flag Yeah, 2747 02:45:47,130 --> 02:45:49,350 John C Dvorak: they didn't get that right he said it was a it 2748 02:45:49,350 --> 02:45:52,500 was a white and red, white and red. Where's the black? 2749 02:45:52,530 --> 02:45:54,120 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's not a good flag. 2750 02:45:54,630 --> 02:45:57,630 John C Dvorak: There's no white and red Nazi flag that I know 2751 02:45:57,630 --> 02:45:57,900 of. 2752 02:45:57,960 --> 02:45:59,910 Adam Curry: There's no white and red in Nazi 2753 02:46:02,250 --> 02:46:04,950 John C Dvorak: Yep, so yeah, that you know it was what would 2754 02:46:04,950 --> 02:46:07,890 call me was running the place it was more creative. 2755 02:46:08,400 --> 02:46:08,820 Adam Curry: They had 2756 02:46:08,820 --> 02:46:11,400 John C Dvorak: better material they did they really developed a 2757 02:46:11,400 --> 02:46:14,640 guys they had a better budget. I'm not sure what's going on. 2758 02:46:14,670 --> 02:46:17,250 Adam Curry: It was just more creative, though. Just more 2759 02:46:17,250 --> 02:46:18,690 creative, and it was more 2760 02:46:18,690 --> 02:46:21,990 Unknown: creative as lame. And I know what are you gonna do? I'm 2761 02:46:21,990 --> 02:46:22,410 gonna do 2762 02:46:24,180 --> 02:46:29,730 Adam Curry: I think we should honor the this man who passed 2763 02:46:29,730 --> 02:46:30,180 away 2764 02:46:30,210 --> 02:46:32,970 Unknown: tonight tributes rolling in for Daniel Ellsberg, 2765 02:46:33,000 --> 02:46:36,240 the largely unknown Pentagon analysts during the Vietnam War, 2766 02:46:36,570 --> 02:46:40,020 later labeled the most dangerous man in America by Secretary of 2767 02:46:40,020 --> 02:46:43,980 State Henry Kissinger. All after Ellsberg leaked the pentagon 2768 02:46:43,980 --> 02:46:48,750 papers to the New York Times and later, the Washington Post 7000 2769 02:46:48,750 --> 02:46:51,660 secret government pages showing the US government had been 2770 02:46:51,660 --> 02:46:55,200 misleading the public about the growing scope of America's role 2771 02:46:55,200 --> 02:46:58,530 in Vietnam, and that the military doubted its chances of 2772 02:46:58,530 --> 02:47:00,060 victory. I still 2773 02:47:00,060 --> 02:47:04,590 nothing. I did not commit espionage. As indicated by the 2774 02:47:04,590 --> 02:47:05,460 Espionage Act. 2775 02:47:05,580 --> 02:47:08,550 It led to a landmark Supreme Court decision on press freedom 2776 02:47:08,550 --> 02:47:11,730 that helped inspire a generation of investigative journalists. 2777 02:47:12,210 --> 02:47:15,090 When the Nixon administration typed newspapers from 2778 02:47:15,090 --> 02:47:18,900 publishing, the justices sided with the press and criminal 2779 02:47:18,900 --> 02:47:21,990 charges against Ellsberg were later thrown out by a judge, 2780 02:47:22,230 --> 02:47:25,290 citing in part a breaking by the White House plumbers that 2781 02:47:25,290 --> 02:47:29,160 Ellsberg former psychiatrists office, seen as a warm up to the 2782 02:47:29,160 --> 02:47:32,400 Watergate burglary that would bring down President Nixon. 2783 02:47:32,970 --> 02:47:35,520 Adam Curry: Yeah, so much for Julian Assange. 2784 02:47:36,570 --> 02:47:42,960 John C Dvorak: So I got to meet Ellsberg. Oh, nice guy. I 2785 02:47:42,960 --> 02:47:44,970 chatted with him at some event they had over here in San 2786 02:47:44,970 --> 02:47:49,710 Francisco. Larry Lessig brought him into some Oh, Larry. Good 2787 02:47:49,710 --> 02:47:54,780 old good old Larry. Larry so I don't have a clip but there was 2788 02:47:54,780 --> 02:47:59,670 a great Capehart and Brooks little thing because they go on 2789 02:47:59,670 --> 02:48:04,560 and on about what a horrible people Assange and Snowden 2790 02:48:04,620 --> 02:48:07,890 actually are and Ellsberg is great. It was just a fun he's 2791 02:48:07,890 --> 02:48:09,840 really awesome switch gears 2792 02:48:11,370 --> 02:48:13,110 Adam Curry: interesting well, that of course is because they 2793 02:48:13,110 --> 02:48:16,860 got a Republican out. You know, Pentagon Papers screwed Nixon 2794 02:48:16,860 --> 02:48:20,640 somehow in the Andrea Mitchell eludes 2795 02:48:21,240 --> 02:48:27,150 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, kinda was embarrassing us about all it 2796 02:48:27,150 --> 02:48:29,640 was It wasn't anything people didn't know. 2797 02:48:29,820 --> 02:48:33,240 Adam Curry: Right? I have. Do you have anything you want to 2798 02:48:33,240 --> 02:48:34,020 play us out with? 2799 02:48:34,050 --> 02:48:36,810 John C Dvorak: I can play us out with a couple of clips from the 2800 02:48:36,810 --> 02:48:40,440 Iowa meet up that we were there was actually this woman. She was 2801 02:48:40,440 --> 02:48:45,180 on PBS of all places. Iowa meet up and no, it wasn't me. It was 2802 02:48:45,180 --> 02:48:48,060 a pollster. There's a meet up going. Iowa has always meet up 2803 02:48:48,060 --> 02:48:53,640 she for the elections. And so they had they have these. This 2804 02:48:53,640 --> 02:48:58,110 pollster was a famous Republican pollster. She's talking to Trump 2805 02:48:58,110 --> 02:49:01,200 people. I have three clips, and they're worth listening to. 2806 02:49:01,260 --> 02:49:02,310 They're number two. 2807 02:49:02,970 --> 02:49:04,470 Adam Curry: Now these mega Magaz 2808 02:49:06,090 --> 02:49:08,790 John C Dvorak: yep, I would say they probably are Iowa pollster 2809 02:49:08,790 --> 02:49:09,600 PBS. 2810 02:49:09,660 --> 02:49:12,510 Unknown: JUDY WOODRUFF was in Des Moines, Iowa yesterday for 2811 02:49:12,510 --> 02:49:16,230 her America at a crossroads reporting project to listen in 2812 02:49:16,230 --> 02:49:19,470 on a couple of voter discussions led by conservative pollster 2813 02:49:19,500 --> 02:49:23,040 Sarah Longwell since it was the day of the Trump arraignment. 2814 02:49:23,040 --> 02:49:27,300 She made that the focus of the first of two reports on what I 2815 02:49:27,300 --> 02:49:30,180 will Republicans are thinking this was produced with our 2816 02:49:30,180 --> 02:49:32,040 friends at Iowa PBS. 2817 02:49:32,070 --> 02:49:35,010 Adam Curry: Yeah, we should mention that I was an important 2818 02:49:35,010 --> 02:49:38,160 states because that always indicates the the temperature of 2819 02:49:38,160 --> 02:49:38,700 the nation. 2820 02:49:39,930 --> 02:49:43,350 John C Dvorak: Well, these Republicans are are kind of 2821 02:49:43,350 --> 02:49:46,770 interesting because they have they seem to be very 2822 02:49:46,770 --> 02:49:49,770 knowledgeable what's going on and they're very skeptical of 2823 02:49:49,830 --> 02:49:53,160 everything. They're more skeptical than the average bear. 2824 02:49:53,160 --> 02:49:54,810 It seems to me. Here's clip to 2825 02:49:54,840 --> 02:49:59,130 Unknown: focus group I do with two time Trump voters. They were 2826 02:49:59,130 --> 02:50:02,160 very clear and did date mints actually made them want to 2827 02:50:02,160 --> 02:50:06,690 support Trump more? Which is really consistent? I mean, we've 2828 02:50:06,690 --> 02:50:10,020 been asking people for several months, you know, how are you? 2829 02:50:10,170 --> 02:50:12,780 How does it make you feel when you hear that Trump's data does 2830 02:50:12,780 --> 02:50:16,500 it make you want to support more support and last out of the 58 2831 02:50:16,500 --> 02:50:20,130 people that we've asked 26 of them said, it makes them want to 2832 02:50:20,130 --> 02:50:24,630 support Donald Trump more. Only two said less. They're a little 2833 02:50:24,630 --> 02:50:28,860 bit mixed on whether Trump is exactly the right person to be 2834 02:50:28,920 --> 02:50:33,690 the person who comes back but still after January 6, after the 2835 02:50:33,690 --> 02:50:36,540 indictments after everything, still a lot of support for 2836 02:50:36,540 --> 02:50:37,200 Donald Trump 2837 02:50:37,680 --> 02:50:39,090 Adam Curry: must be Nazis 2838 02:50:41,010 --> 02:50:43,230 John C Dvorak: and they won it anyway they go on and he talked 2839 02:50:43,230 --> 02:50:45,210 to all these people is very interesting that people can dig 2840 02:50:45,210 --> 02:50:49,230 out from last Wednesday's PBS NewsHour, they and then they had 2841 02:50:49,230 --> 02:50:52,050 a follow up on Thursday, I would go back and watch that it's 2842 02:50:52,050 --> 02:50:55,800 online. Now. The one that got me though, is this. This is the 2843 02:50:55,800 --> 02:50:59,460 last very short clip where they she asked him specific questions 2844 02:50:59,460 --> 02:51:03,240 and then they raised their hands. And I have to say that 2845 02:51:03,780 --> 02:51:07,410 this is to at least I was shaking my head on this one 2846 02:51:07,410 --> 02:51:08,790 because it was like, wow, 2847 02:51:09,210 --> 02:51:13,110 Unknown: that deep seated distrust extended to the 2020 2848 02:51:13,140 --> 02:51:16,290 election results and their aftermath to 2849 02:51:16,440 --> 02:51:18,990 how many of you believe Joe Biden was legitimately elected 2850 02:51:18,990 --> 02:51:21,510 president the United States How many of you believe that the 2851 02:51:21,510 --> 02:51:27,120 election was stolen? Or rigged in some way? Okay, everybody 2852 02:51:28,140 --> 02:51:29,700 100 frickin percent. 2853 02:51:31,170 --> 02:51:32,610 Everybody, everybody. 2854 02:51:32,610 --> 02:51:38,160 Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, that's good. That's good. stolen, 2855 02:51:38,370 --> 02:51:43,620 stolen you election deniers, Nazis, horrible people. Someone 2856 02:51:43,620 --> 02:51:46,710 sent me a note and said, after I heard your comments about Trump 2857 02:51:46,710 --> 02:51:49,290 on the last episode, I'm thinking you're a liberal. 2858 02:51:52,860 --> 02:51:54,210 Unknown: Let's just say I don't 2859 02:51:54,210 --> 02:52:02,880 Adam Curry: know. I know. You're a liberal. I don't think so. Oh, 2860 02:52:02,880 --> 02:52:06,960 speaking of 100 frickin percent great comedian. I wish I had his 2861 02:52:06,960 --> 02:52:10,920 name here on this clip, just 43 seconds. This is my pet peeve. I 2862 02:52:10,920 --> 02:52:16,740 wouldn't say 100% 100% as 100% instead of saying absolutely 2863 02:52:16,740 --> 02:52:19,710 clearly all the way Definitely spot on. 2864 02:52:21,300 --> 02:52:23,850 Unknown: Instead of Yes. Instead of Yes. People often say they 2865 02:52:23,850 --> 02:52:31,020 don't say yes, but they say 100% Like I asked a question and they 2866 02:52:31,020 --> 02:52:32,280 give me statistics 2867 02:52:37,620 --> 02:52:45,030 instead of yes, they give me the percentage of esns mean it's 2868 02:52:45,060 --> 02:52:51,270 always it's always hungry. Sometimes it's sounds stupid. 2869 02:52:51,270 --> 02:52:56,550 Like it sounds like like did you did you pay taxes? Yeah. 100% 2870 02:52:59,130 --> 02:53:04,470 Well, I think you'll pay too much. Thank you. 2871 02:53:04,710 --> 02:53:08,190 Adam Curry: I'm not the only one noticing this insanity. Luckily. 2872 02:53:09,510 --> 02:53:14,040 Ah, well Happy Father's Day to you, John. That Happy Father's 2873 02:53:14,040 --> 02:53:16,860 Day to you. And Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out 2874 02:53:16,860 --> 02:53:22,650 there. You do important work you matter you're seeing your heard. 2875 02:53:24,450 --> 02:53:30,960 We have end of show mixes from see who did this one. I wish I 2876 02:53:30,960 --> 02:53:38,610 knew this the Armistice Day. We have DS laughs We have Tom Stark 2877 02:53:38,610 --> 02:53:42,420 where the first one up, unedited by the way his first mix. And 2878 02:53:42,420 --> 02:53:45,930 Jesse Coyne Nelson. And on no agenda stream we've got the hog 2879 02:53:45,930 --> 02:53:49,560 story to John Fletcher and Dame Carolyn Blaney. They'll be 2880 02:53:49,560 --> 02:53:52,770 playing with their barbecue toys. And coming to you from the 2881 02:53:52,770 --> 02:53:55,800 heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six 2882 02:53:56,040 --> 02:53:58,080 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 2883 02:53:58,110 --> 02:54:01,920 John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where Tomorrow's 2884 02:54:01,920 --> 02:54:04,500 a holiday. I'm Jesse Dvorak. Yes, enjoy 2885 02:54:04,500 --> 02:54:08,490 Adam Curry: your Juneteenth everybody. And please do 2886 02:54:08,490 --> 02:54:13,050 remember us at divorce act.org/na We'll be back on 2887 02:54:13,050 --> 02:54:16,080 Thursday with another media deconstruction just for you. 2888 02:54:16,260 --> 02:54:20,790 Until then adios mofos a hui, Hui, and such 2889 02:54:28,830 --> 02:54:32,250 Unknown: and now, I'm standing next to the president again next 2890 02:54:32,250 --> 02:54:36,510 to a collapsed bridge here. And he is here to commit to work 2891 02:54:36,510 --> 02:54:42,540 with the governor and the delegation to make sure that we 2892 02:54:42,540 --> 02:54:46,920 get this fixed quick, fast as well to this is a president that 2893 02:54:46,920 --> 02:54:51,360 is committed to and fractured. And then on top of that, the 2894 02:54:51,360 --> 02:54:57,810 jewel, kind of a law of the infinite fresh and fresh 2895 02:54:57,870 --> 02:55:01,560 inflation Bill that is going to make sure that there's going to 2896 02:55:01,560 --> 02:55:04,830 be bridges all across like this all across America getting 2897 02:55:04,830 --> 02:55:05,220 rebuilt. 2898 02:55:06,960 --> 02:55:12,270 You're watching people fight. You're watching people lose and 2899 02:55:12,869 --> 02:55:16,949 Adam Curry: pharmacist was our armistice Am I saying it right I 2900 02:55:16,949 --> 02:55:21,479 miss not being able to say pharmacist or pharmacists. What 2901 02:55:21,479 --> 02:55:22,979 is it? What is it 2902 02:55:23,039 --> 02:55:26,249 John C Dvorak: you'll never say I get it now I had to set it I 2903 02:55:26,249 --> 02:55:28,409 visualized the word I was about to say and then you start 2904 02:55:28,560 --> 02:55:31,140 Adam Curry: pharmacist pharmacist armed I said I said 2905 02:55:31,140 --> 02:55:34,770 it right armatus There you go. Armitage. Armitage is yes it is 2906 02:55:34,830 --> 02:55:39,210 a RM a tea ice Armistice Day armistice armistice. Does it 2907 02:55:39,210 --> 02:55:42,360 sound right to you? Yes, it does. Now armistice that's where 2908 02:55:42,360 --> 02:55:45,750 they signed the armistice agreement armistice armistice 2909 02:55:45,750 --> 02:55:47,250 you're right armistice. 2910 02:55:52,410 --> 02:55:56,220 Unknown: You're watching people by the way, you're watching 2911 02:55:56,220 --> 02:55:59,040 people losing on Armistice Day 2912 02:56:00,240 --> 02:56:03,690 that are kind of company these medications can trigger 2913 02:56:03,690 --> 02:56:07,170 temporary hair shedding and hair loss. The hair follicles can 2914 02:56:07,170 --> 02:56:10,440 shrink and produce thinner and shorter strands and this can 2915 02:56:10,440 --> 02:56:13,710 lead to certain patterns of hair loss. male pattern hair loss 2916 02:56:14,010 --> 02:56:18,480 mechanic alopecia misuse can cause progressive hair loss that 2917 02:56:18,480 --> 02:56:22,320 could become permanent. You have to you have to treat the whole 2918 02:56:22,320 --> 02:56:24,960 person and that's what this headline is really about. All 2919 02:56:24,960 --> 02:56:25,440 Well 2920 02:56:25,470 --> 02:56:28,050 Adam Curry: done. Well done. You've debunked the stupid 2921 02:56:28,050 --> 02:56:31,560 headline Dr. Jenn keep on taking your ozempic People have nothing 2922 02:56:31,560 --> 02:56:33,090 to see here. It's all good and when 2923 02:56:33,090 --> 02:56:36,600 Unknown: your hair all falls on your balls milliard don't worry 2924 02:56:36,600 --> 02:56:38,130 about it. At least you're thin 2925 02:56:38,520 --> 02:56:44,130 and boxy Tucker Carlson the split CNN told on the mind video 2926 02:56:44,190 --> 02:56:48,270 that said pineapple pizza is fine by me point of personal 2927 02:56:48,270 --> 02:56:52,530 privilege and preference in the Kamala Harris as wishes high as 2928 02:56:52,950 --> 02:56:57,330 NATO pushes the Ukraine a key point number five top you clip 2929 02:56:57,330 --> 02:57:01,500 Stopstopstop in a clip love this show even when mommy and daddy 2930 02:57:01,500 --> 02:57:05,220 fight the lead assholes think about what you think about Roy 2931 02:57:05,220 --> 02:57:08,040 Wood was good at the correspondents White House. 2932 02:57:08,220 --> 02:57:11,550 Comics nowadays even into the culture war forced to play no 2933 02:57:11,550 --> 02:57:15,150 longer just for last media more intentional weight loss at a 2934 02:57:15,150 --> 02:57:18,810 loss for word obesity is out of control these epic phrases of 2935 02:57:18,810 --> 02:57:23,430 Sir data control so many drugs to me, Eli Lilly and diabetes 2936 02:57:23,460 --> 02:57:27,630 drugs and now in grade 30% all the learners to Jabba shot 2937 02:57:27,750 --> 02:57:31,680 stress test the public and mass formation as well we got from 2938 02:57:31,680 --> 02:57:36,900 the outside. Feels like OSI politics is show business for 2939 02:57:36,900 --> 02:57:40,770 Ugly people. I mean, why not love the trolls? It never gets 2940 02:57:40,770 --> 02:57:45,930 old to 1800 on Thursday 24 On a Sunday stick around for the 2941 02:57:45,930 --> 02:57:47,940 donations don't run away 2942 02:57:49,680 --> 02:57:52,050 Adam Curry: in a troll room and they and there's not a lot of 2943 02:57:52,050 --> 02:57:54,270 them which is nice. Yes, I'm going to write it down on the 2944 02:57:54,270 --> 02:57:54,630 sticky 2945 02:57:58,740 --> 02:58:02,490 Unknown: it's lovely June 18 2032 and celebrity trans 2946 02:58:02,490 --> 02:58:06,840 species influencer Shazam duck frog goat gets a surprise call 2947 02:58:06,840 --> 02:58:07,230 it home. 2948 02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:15,390 O M G, its president Big Mike with powerful words of support. 2949 02:58:15,630 --> 02:58:23,190 What's going on? Tell me what's on your mind. Yeah, I am just so 2950 02:58:23,190 --> 02:58:28,110 proud of you being just an amazing role model and embracing 2951 02:58:28,140 --> 02:58:33,570 your truth. You're already doing this. So maybe this is for some 2952 02:58:33,570 --> 02:58:40,680 other young people that are listening. Your age or in the 2953 02:58:40,680 --> 02:58:45,270 teenage years in probably through your 20s you're going to 2954 02:58:45,270 --> 02:58:49,500 be experimenting with so many versions of yourself right. 2955 02:58:52,260 --> 02:59:01,620 Next, Vice President Alexandria Ocasio. Cortez speaks with the 2956 02:59:01,620 --> 02:59:02,520 trans woodblock. 2957 02:59:11,970 --> 02:59:15,000 vora.org/in 2958 02:59:15,060 --> 02:59:17,910 A God Save the Queen man