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Adam Curry: She's the Yoko of
the Royals man. Adam curry, John

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C Devorah. They made for 2023.
This is your award winning

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combination media assassination
episode 1552.

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Unknown: This is no agenda

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Adam Curry: cranking up the
drone wars and broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country here. Number six. The

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley. They're

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considering the date. We're all
saying the same thing. May the

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Fourth be with you? I'm John C.
Dvorak. Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I forgot
all about that. I'm not a not a

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Star Wars fan. I mean, I'm, I
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and Empire Strikes Back and that
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I didn't need any more than
that. Yeah. Was enough was

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enough? Well, I will say,
there's not going to be any Star

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Wars movies for a while. It's
happened twice in the existence

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of this show. And two and both
times it has only benefited us.

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John C Dvorak: Joshua has no
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Adam Curry: The writer strike.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know. It
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show. This is the second time.
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and it lasted the first one last
100 days. And it did took it

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ruined the business and it hurt
them. The the bottom line in

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Hollywood, California. And I
don't see. The thing is I think,

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do I think I have a clip like
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Adam Curry: I have a clip, I
backgrounder and was talking

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about just from France? 24.
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Yeah, why don't we try it? At
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some valid reporting.

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Unknown: It is day one of the
first Hollywood writers strike

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in 15 years and writers have
certainly turned out in huge

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numbers. Hundreds of people
marching right now in front of

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the Netflix headquarters in
Hollywood chanting slogans like

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corporate greed has got to go,
no contract, no script, and LA

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is a union town. And that's a
case. We've heard lots of

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support lots of cars, dozens and
dozens of them honking their

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horns in support of these
writers as they drive by these

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writers who were asking for
several things, including better

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pay streaming residuals, or
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they've been working on is then
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late nights like Netflix, and
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that last point is the one that
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point in negotiations with these
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that is what led to those talks
breaking down last night. We're

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already seeing some
consequences. Some of those late

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night talk shows like Jimmy
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Stephen Colbert, all going into
reruns starting tonight. And of

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course, as long as the longer
this strike goes on, the more

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consequences we will start
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world here in Hollywood.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, I always love
this except this time, they're

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really screwed. They're totally
screwed this time because

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they're not gonna get anything
they want. There's no residuals

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and streaming. They all accepted
these deals like oh, okay, well,

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John C Dvorak: need and they got
bonused on him. Yes, they got

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extra money upfront. I'm not
undecided. The writers being a

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writer myself, I'm not in that
union. But I will say this, they

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were giving them extra money
because of the no residual

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situations with from the
streamers on Netflix. And those

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guys. They were throwing money
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Netflix and Amazon Studios give
us tons of money Fire Rod did.

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strike some years ago and have
have put so much stuff in the

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can Yeah. That they can flow for
a year.

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Adam Curry: Well, so there's a
number of things and and I'm not

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against organized labor. I'm not
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pro union. I'm sag AFTRA, I
believe although I've never made

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enough money to get into the
into the retirement fund. I used

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to get I don't even get money
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cents from seriously I would get
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residual check from Swamp Thing.
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stars also got me residuals for
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it is you know this per episode
saying and then you know, on

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streaming, you know, if you
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had what 30 episodes a season,
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John C Dvorak: thing everyone's
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episodes. In fact, the even on
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called The Good Place, which was
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very It wasn't even the same
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10 episodes and then they take a
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they're I will get to an end and
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12 Good episodes, we'll put
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never even watched the last
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year delay for it to come out
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Adam Curry: way. We do 110 We do
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like, none of the late night
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worthless without their writer
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questions. It's the interviews.
It's also incredibly phony and

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just bull crap. And please,
Writers Guild of America, don't

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you know, members don't write us
and tell him he don't know what

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it's about. I don't care.
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John C Dvorak: have to listen
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Adam Curry: it's a huge list.
One of our guys

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John C Dvorak: has is involved
in the strike. And he sent us a

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huge list of all the demands and
all the counter proposal and put

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Adam Curry: it in the show
notes. Everyone can take a look

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at it. But the world has
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John C Dvorak: changed. I mean,
it changed for every writer. I

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mean, look at the magazine
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to the early days like face,
let's say when the magazine

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business you're

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Adam Curry: a millionaire back
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on the hog, you had limo 24 hour
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Adam Curry: little bit just a
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John C Dvorak: And then if you
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let's say in the 70s he go back
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where all these magazines like
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published short stories and then
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do stuff like that. Did that
that business? Who's what short

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story writer? Do you personally
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Adam Curry: if you look at the
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Netflix, Paramount. These guys
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thing was short sighted. They
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streaming business in the
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lockdown. You know, there was
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in it. But then that ended
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people are going back to the
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different world. And and the
free money train is over, it is

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over. So you know, there's just
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that's going into these
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companies are crowdfunding these
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bull crap media companies, Vice
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John C Dvorak: but there's buzz,
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Adam Curry: vice media, which
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this thing all the time. Like
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Shane Smith, bullcrap artists,
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boys and and ran around his
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flying people. They started by
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million investment. But then
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different companies. And they
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basically they were an
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hip content, you know, and then
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consulting company with 500
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no one is dumb enough to put
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gonna be it's gonna be going out
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of this was bull crap. It was
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what a lot of this the streaming
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Spotify, who of course allowed
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under the WGA to another
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Unknown: pod. All these true
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John C Dvorak: I know about the
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Adam Curry: East. Yeah. And that
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it's crazy. It was premised on
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about this all the time, like
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does not work with executive
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producers and editors. No, it
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it themselves, themselves. And
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enough to have an extra person
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the show and make everyone feel
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But no, they weren't all
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money dried up, we'll start
selling your Neumann mics people

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John C Dvorak: gear. Yeah. Yeah.
And your gear sounds better. In

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fact, as we talked about earlier
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thought you should win an award
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Adam Curry: and I know what I'm
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the academy. Like gonna be
accepting on behalf Robert

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Downey Jr. You know, something
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but it's, it's sad because I
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really just have to find they
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was just talking they are. I was
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John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Our
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Adam Curry: I've never met him
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friend from before. Yes. And I
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his house. So we actually are
friends. So your buddy's real

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true friends. And he's and he,
you know, they still there. They

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still have on payroll because,
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kick him out. Because, you know,
a whole division started to fall

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apart. So Oh, could you please
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John C Dvorak: That's not
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Adam Curry: Well, I'm probably
already going further than I

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should. But as we were talking.
We agreed. You cannot Hollywood

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has they don't see it. They
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one non union content producer
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all the money. And that is tick
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. He said,
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well by the pundit class. And
that was the crossover point

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where the game game computer
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Adam Curry: Oh, hundreds of
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John C Dvorak: yes, they were
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the time. And it's like when
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everything has to adjust once it
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Adam Curry: Well, of course,
because it's all it's all been

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such a wonderful system like oh,
yes, well, you don't have

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guaranteed minimum drama ball.
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fire leaves you you know the
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writing the How great is the
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magical artificial intelligence.
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that they can cut costs by using
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going to give up on that. That's
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want. guarantees that that
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think every article you heard is
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studios regulate regulate AI so
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of course it's going to steal
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just just people on Tik Tok are
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millionaires they're gonna do a
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already millionaires. They're
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people will enjoy it it'll be
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John C Dvorak: But this stuff
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you brought up the AI thing with
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an AI clip. Okay, here's the
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talk about AI okay. You know
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Adam Curry: can I just say I
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John C Dvorak: on audio so I
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Adam Curry: you and I as
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have a first of all,
congratulations to them because

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they let where they leave. They
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everyone like you idiots and
they did a pretty good job and

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the Crown Fahd crowdfunded
crowdfunded stuff and people

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John C Dvorak: I thought, I
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a spin off like that arrogantly,
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think they did a great job they,
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operation. Although, if you
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podcasts, they want to get more
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Adam Curry: Now I heard that the
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would like to make a statement.
Don't do it. You're stupid. We

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just have to say Leo Laporte.
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is like a little space that he
that he subleases from a fitness

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company, in an industrial area
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what it is. It's a small studio.
You don't need big studios, you

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don't need to be don't go that
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the thing that you have, whether
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quite sure what it is. It's
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money away. Would you agree?

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John C Dvorak: Partner?
Absolutely. It's crazy. Once you

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know what to think and think
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know, massive This is the
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Instead of just pocketing the
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trigger head. So they have
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incursion. And she makes a
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Adam Curry: whole Piper's up
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John C Dvorak: You can tell she
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can hear, see and hear anything,
but she's not coked up. She is

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just got a cold, but she sounds
terrible. And he or she is going

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on a little bit about AI and she
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that just I'm just a head
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he's saying, you know, they if
you think about what AI sees as

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increasing its power, what a
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increasing power. It's cloning
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other people that threatened its
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understand how an algorithm
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B. And that creates something
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control very, very quickly. And
so I am concerned about things

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like teenagers using AI and
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sexually assaulted by AI. I

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think that's a huge concern.

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Adam Curry: Don't touch me
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the AI assaulted you. What is
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John C Dvorak: believe that?

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Adam Curry: Well, you know,
assault these days is just

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saying, you know, like, Hey,
nice dress, you know, that's

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sexual.

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John C Dvorak: Nice tickets.

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Adam Curry: Go. Stop it. I don't
like the word tickets. I don't

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like it's always bothered me. I
don't know why. I'm just saying

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John C Dvorak: look within.

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Unknown: Thank you. Thank you,
Grace Hopper, she'll do that.

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John C Dvorak: Well, so I you
know, this is like, people are,

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they're out of control in their
analysis of AI.

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Adam Curry: Okay, luckily, I
have a few clips to talk about.

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John C Dvorak: would have gotten
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okay. I don't know if you could
top that one. But you can, I'm

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sure come up with

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Adam Curry: Let's just, it's
almost like, you know, all these

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euphemisms. 99% of what people
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artificial intelligence. I'm
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intelligence that exists outside
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safe to say. So to say it's
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is no intelligence there's only
copy paste you know, scoring

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things None None of this is
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going to be AI is going to be

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great for people Yeah, sure. We
have all kinds of tools you

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know, Photoshop if you want to
call it is AI Photoshop. There's

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John C Dvorak: 100% With this,
what you just said Photoshop is

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Adam Curry: 100% We have to rock
against that we have to rock

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against the 100%

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John C Dvorak: I only picked it
up recently. I know I'm gonna

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write you I won't be able to
turn it off so quickly so I

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you're gonna have I'm gonna vote
but I appreciate being called

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out. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: So that is not
artificial intelligence, you

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know, a transcripts that it's
incredible that we use otter.ai

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and cost 20 bucks a month. And I
throw the mp3 in there and like

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an hour later Oops out and it's
it's recognized your voice it

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tags you. Now, of course, half
the time, it'll say it'll spell

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your name JH en si Jhansi
Dvorak. Sometimes it gets it

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right. But it's still even
identifying different voices is

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quite. That's remarkable. It's
remarkable, but it's not

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artificial intelligence. We have
a lot of this stuff. So what

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what people are calling art now?
Tina does all of the resumes for

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the kids, you know, because this
is what she does. She's very,

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very good at it. She also
coaches, you know, here's,

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here's how you want to ask for
this, you know, so there's money

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for this. And so, one of the
girls is, you know, up for

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review when she wants to ask for
some more money. And so Tina

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says, you know, okay, I'll write
this up. So now I have something

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I'll send that to you, you take
a look at it. And she says to

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me, Oh, wow, she really wrote
something herself. And she's

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reading it to me, John, within
within 30 seconds of like, chat.

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GPT. Yeah. And then she went,
Oh, you're right. And then we

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could identify, you know,
there's some repetition of

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certain phrases, just chat GPT.
And that's not gonna fly. You

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know, I don't care how good it
gets. It's just it's not.

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John C Dvorak: So well, you
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it worse. You know, there's
tools coming tools that are just

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designed to spot that this
stuff, of course. And so you

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just run it through, it's like
the same thing, like just stolen

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papers, at RuneFest. Through the
system, the computer goes both

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ways. It's like a double edged
sword it, you know, cuts one way

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and it cuts the other. So you
can't get away with this for

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Adam Curry: You know what, I
believe AI is real, when it

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really can stop spam. Okay. And
why isn't that the first

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application? Why isn't that the
first one phone calls for that

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matter? Oh, have you been I've
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it's, it's been recent. So I'm
not sure what happened. And it

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goes like this. And I bet you a
lot of people are getting these,

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hey, this number has been in my
phone for a long time. But I

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really don't know who this is.
Who are you?

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John C Dvorak: Oh, I've not
heard about this. But that's a

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Adam Curry: I get a lot of
these. Let me see if there's

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more. It's like, hey, it's all
variations of that. Let me see

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if I hadn't I usually get rid of
them. This one came in this

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morning. And it's and it's not
from it's like, two or three

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numbers or, you know, like known
area code, not necessarily some

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bullcrap one. But it's text
messages, which is a bit

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concerning. I wish I could find
it either one of those, but it's

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Unknown: how's the storm? Oh,
how's the storm? Did it pass you

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Adam Curry: Oh, I don't know,
you know, and stuff like that.

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It's all but it's always like,
hey,

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John C Dvorak: what do we do?
Then? The follow up to find out

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what's going on? No, I

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Adam Curry: have I have a life I
have things to do. How

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John C Dvorak: to follow up.

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Adam Curry: I'm not gonna follow
up. Alright, so then we have a

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big, big, big thing happen in AI
world? Because remember, we all

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have to be very, very afraid.
Everybody who is not who doesn't

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have a an AI play? Let's just
call it what it is. That's how

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the venture capitals talk about
that. Do they have an AI play?

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No, Elon Musk does not have an
AI play. So what does he have to

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do? He has to sign the joint
letter to say we need to stop

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six months so I can catch up and
get my own AI play. Get it

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funded? And now Oh, no, it's
technology

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Unknown: that could be superior
to the human brain. Okay.

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Adam Curry: France 24. Go back.
And one

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Unknown: of its pioneers now
says part of him regrets his

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role in creating it.

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Adam Curry: This is nothing
better than the Creator coming

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out and saying, Oh,

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Unknown: 75 year old computer
scientists. Geoffrey Hinton says

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he quit his job at Google so he
can independently share his

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concerns about AI technology.

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were you gonna say?

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John C Dvorak: I was gonna say,
Yeah, because he's a forced

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retirement.

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Unknown: Get out of the company,
which include fears over

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disinformation and stealing
human jobs. But beyond that, you

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hit

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Adam Curry: this this is this is
a trend. We heard the Writers

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Guild of America talks about
stealing jobs. This is we're

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picking up on something. And now
France 24 is talking about AI

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stealing jobs, which include

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Unknown: fears over
disinformation and stealing

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human jobs, but also go far
beyond that.

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What do we do to mitigate the
long term risks of things more

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intelligent than us taking
control things like GPT for

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Eclipse is a person in the
amount of general knowledge it

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has an eclipses and by a long
way, in terms of reasoning, it's

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not as good but it doesn't
really do simple reasoning.

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Adam Curry: Okay, let's just
break this down. He says had

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more knowledge than any human
ever has bullcrap. I have

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Google.

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John C Dvorak: And he also said
in terms of reasoning, It's not

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very good. Exactly neither. And
you're, that's the other thing.

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They said, Well, I can have more
effect, I was thinking the same

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thing you just said, which is
that we have never accumulated

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in our own brains, the
Encyclopedia Britannica, but

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we've always had the
encyclopedia that we could look.

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It's like an extension. It's
like a human extension, right?

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So how's it going to really
outdo us? Because all of those

442
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human extensions are the only
thing that it has access to.

443
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It's not. It's not developing
new stuff out of the blue. Also,

444
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Adam Curry: I think that as a
human, I have Google foo. I

445
00:25:38,730 --> 00:25:42,030
mean, I can search things and
get answers that other people

446
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can't because I know how to
input the queries. Oh, I'm great

447
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:52,050
at a prompt query. I'm gonna
prompt engineer douchebags. This

448
00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:54,630
is a whole new category of
douchebag. I'm a prompt

449
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engineer.

450
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John C Dvorak: Do you just admit
to being one,

451
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Adam Curry: I am one, but I
don't put it on my resume.

452
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Unknown: And given the rate of
progress, we expect things to

453
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get better quite fast. So we
need to worry about that.

454
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Adam Curry: Worry about it. It's
getting better quite fast.

455
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Worried might ask

456
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John C Dvorak: you something,
please. Who is this guy?

457
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,750
Adam Curry: This is the Google
AI pioneer.

458
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John C Dvorak: I never heard of
him. No, of

459
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Adam Curry: course not.

460
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John C Dvorak: Have you heard of
him? No.

461
00:26:23,460 --> 00:26:26,280
Adam Curry: Don't even mention
his name. Ai pioneer.

462
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John C Dvorak: He said that you
missed his name on and off

463
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,830
again. But he 75 ai pioneer How
come I haven't heard of it. And

464
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he's old enough. He's 75. He
literally is old enough to have

465
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been part of that first AI go
round back in the 80s. He took

466
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Adam Curry: he took his absence
when they knew they were going

467
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to kick them out. Because that's
what Google's doing to get rid

468
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of everybody. And he's out there
now doing this too. If they get

469
00:26:47,490 --> 00:26:50,760
his own, he wants money. Like
how can I score some money? Oh,

470
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maybe if I warned about this,
someone will pick me up as

471
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what's the word an artificial
intelligence? Ah, ethics ethics

472
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guy ethics professional.

473
00:27:01,290 --> 00:27:04,170
John C Dvorak: The there'll be
some like that's actually dead

474
00:27:04,170 --> 00:27:10,680
analysis is on 100% Oh, you have
to stop this. I would try to

475
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,950
stop it in mid chat. And I
decided to go through with it.

476
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But

477
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Unknown: if you know, I have no
respect for you. So this guy is

478
00:27:20,490 --> 00:27:23,250
Adam Curry: really trying to
garner up a gig.

479
00:27:23,460 --> 00:27:26,190
Unknown: It's just the latest
warning that tech companies

480
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might be creating a monster they
can't control. In March after

481
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open AI released the latest
model of its chat bot GBT for

482
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more than 1000 people from the
tech industry including

483
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billionaire Elon Musk,

484
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Adam Curry: which of course is
always the mark of a smart man

485
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,240
Unknown: and Apple co founder
Steve Wozniak signed a letter

486
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calling for

487
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Adam Curry: Wozniak dated Kathy
Yeah. What's your face? He does

488
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080
not smart guy. Remember that?
Kathy Griffin?

489
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Unknown: Jr. He did? Yes. So
he's

490
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John C Dvorak: been married for
a long time. He's a good guy.

491
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Everyone loves Wozniak. Sure,

492
00:28:01,620 --> 00:28:05,850
Adam Curry: but doesn't mean
he's smart. That was a bad date.

493
00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:09,030
John C Dvorak: And Apple co
founders, like Kathy Griffin

494
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would for good reason. The co

495
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Unknown: founder Steve Wozniak,
signed a letter calling for a

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pause on AI development. While
the risks are properly studied.

497
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Can you thought well,
organizations like the OECD have

498
00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:24,720
issued guidelines, little AI
regulation exists. The US just

499
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,300
launched a study of possible
accountability measures in

500
00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:30,840
April, and the European Union
has put forward an artificial

501
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,350
intelligence act, but the far
reaching legislation has yet to

502
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be passed.

503
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Adam Curry: So this is all this
is just another Gambit. And I

504
00:28:40,110 --> 00:28:42,720
know you agree with me. So it's
not even a discussion to be had.

505
00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:46,980
Silicon Valley tech companies
like they have nothing. By the

506
00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:50,580
way it costs some astronomical
obscene amount to keep the

507
00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:53,610
servers running for this no
business model business they

508
00:28:53,610 --> 00:28:59,580
have. You can't advertise on
chat GPT. And what are you going

509
00:28:59,580 --> 00:29:02,280
to do with that? How are you
going to suck the information

510
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,890
out of people how you're going
to suck them dry? And well

511
00:29:04,890 --> 00:29:05,640
they're trying to get

512
00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:08,910
John C Dvorak: right now they're
using a subscription model? Oh,

513
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:12,120
Adam Curry: who's gonna pay for
that? People don't pay for

514
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,690
stuff. They won't pay for it.
They won't. They're gonna I

515
00:29:15,690 --> 00:29:18,570
agree. I agree. And there's
enough open source versions that

516
00:29:18,570 --> 00:29:21,450
you know, I mean, you can even
transcripts, you can now run on

517
00:29:21,450 --> 00:29:24,000
your own computer. I just don't
want to dedicate a machine to

518
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,120
it. And I'm happy to just give
it to someone else who approves

519
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,120
it. I don't I don't I have no
time to maintain it. So that's

520
00:29:30,150 --> 00:29:33,300
that's it's not a business. So
now they have to involve the

521
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:36,900
government. Oh, yeah. Well,
regulation, okay. So now we can

522
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:40,020
be we can be regulated, which
means we have all the money and

523
00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:43,830
then we can charge company you
know, they're moving away from

524
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:47,970
the business to consumer model
with this and and of course, it

525
00:29:47,970 --> 00:29:51,000
uses more energy than all of
Bitcoin put together, but make

526
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,200
no mention of that. And even in
the United States, of course,

527
00:29:55,410 --> 00:29:59,790
now we have to set up meetings
to have a meeting everybody is

528
00:29:59,790 --> 00:30:04,110
from CNBC. This is Gina
Raimondo. She's our Commerce

529
00:30:04,110 --> 00:30:07,290
Secretary, an AI genius. I say
we also

530
00:30:07,290 --> 00:30:11,250
Unknown: want to lead the world
in AI. We want to do it safely,

531
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safely.

532
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,030
Madam Secretary, you're you're
part of this meeting that the

533
00:30:15,030 --> 00:30:16,800
Vice President is holding
tomorrow with

534
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:19,710
Adam Curry: Kamla Harris is
holding a meeting with Gina

535
00:30:19,710 --> 00:30:23,910
Raimondo about AI, I would pay
money to sit in that meeting,

536
00:30:24,180 --> 00:30:27,150
John C Dvorak: oh, I would like
to be a fly on the wall. I can't

537
00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:29,460
Adam Curry: wait for the Vice
President to talk about AI.

538
00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:31,350
Please, Kamala tell it better,

539
00:30:31,410 --> 00:30:34,110
John C Dvorak: they better put
to bring the cameras in the

540
00:30:34,110 --> 00:30:37,470
crew, you want to see this? We
want that live CEOs

541
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Unknown: of Google and Microsoft
and open AI. And I'm curious

542
00:30:40,350 --> 00:30:44,580
what the what the goal is, and
what your concern level is

543
00:30:44,610 --> 00:30:45,990
around some of this technology.

544
00:30:47,970 --> 00:30:51,570
The concern level is high. You
know, it's a challenge because

545
00:30:51,570 --> 00:30:54,750
on the one hand, the excitement
level is high. When you think

546
00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:58,650
about the promise and potential
of AI, and what it means for

547
00:30:58,650 --> 00:31:02,130
advances in health care,
advances in education, advances

548
00:31:02,130 --> 00:31:04,320
in business, as you say, health
care,

549
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,440
Adam Curry: baby health care,
because chat GPT can fix you a

550
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,670
healthcare. It's the advantages
this is this is huge. The future

551
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:14,730
It's all ahead of us. There's a
world of possibilities

552
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,850
Unknown: in healthcare advances
in education, advances in

553
00:31:17,850 --> 00:31:20,790
business, as you say, we're in
the lead, and we want to keep

554
00:31:20,790 --> 00:31:25,170
the lead. But it has to be done
safely. Incredibly powerful

555
00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:28,710
technology. So we want to have a
serious discussion with

556
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:34,530
industry. As you know, tomorrow
will be one discussion among

557
00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:38,460
many that we're having with many
stakeholders to try to figure

558
00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:44,160
out how we prove how we go fast,
but without breaking things.

559
00:31:45,030 --> 00:31:48,570
Adam Curry: Well, that's a great
twist on Facebook's motto, very

560
00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:54,780
good Gita. So stupid. All right,
I want to move off of this. I

561
00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:57,420
want to move you into yours in
some into some of your clips.

562
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,060
Because I see what you have
here. I think it is the news of

563
00:32:00,060 --> 00:32:04,350
the day and we will have a
different takes on this. I will

564
00:32:04,350 --> 00:32:09,570
start with a short clip of Nigel
Farage interviewing presidential

565
00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:13,740
hopeful and former President
Donald Trump about the drone war

566
00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:16,650
Unknown: and that person. I
mean, today, they're saying

567
00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:19,410
there's been an attempted drone
strike by the Ukrainians on the

568
00:32:19,410 --> 00:32:22,590
Kremlin. We don't yet know the
full truth. Have you seen that

569
00:32:22,590 --> 00:32:25,020
story? I have not seen it yet.
Okay. All right. Well, we know

570
00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:29,220
that that's the I mean, they're
quite small drones. But the

571
00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:33,360
truth of it is, there's a
growing I sense in America

572
00:32:33,870 --> 00:32:37,110
unhappiness about the money
that's been given to Ukraine.

573
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,050
Why does nobody talk about peace
and pleased negotiations?

574
00:32:40,050 --> 00:32:44,190
John C Dvorak: So if I were
president, and I say this, I

575
00:32:44,190 --> 00:32:48,510
will end that war one day, it'll
take 24 hours. I know Zielinski.

576
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:54,390
Well. I know, Putin. Well, we
get ended in a period of about

577
00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:57,660
100%. Don't ever say

578
00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:07,170
Adam Curry: even Trump is saying
it 100% 100 Pro Han or pissant

579
00:33:07,740 --> 00:33:13,470
100%. I'm so disappointed that
people do this. Okay. So let's

580
00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:15,060
talk about this drone. You got
clips?

581
00:33:16,290 --> 00:33:19,110
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is a
clip from Al Jazeera. No, they

582
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:25,860
have so so it's actually
interesting report. You created

583
00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:29,220
a start and just go with it. I
mean, I didn't. I intended just

584
00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:32,280
to play this first part, just
first clip, which is you go to

585
00:33:32,430 --> 00:33:42,270
one. Clip one, Russia. Sorry.
But, but as I kept playing that

586
00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,640
it's a long report and I kept
playing it. Oh, I gotta clip

587
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,430
this. I gotta clip that. So it
turns out to be pretty long.

588
00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:49,710
Let's go with this the setup.

589
00:33:49,890 --> 00:33:53,460
Unknown: Russia has threatened
retaliation for what it says was

590
00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:57,150
an assassination attempt on
President Vladimir Putin. The

591
00:33:57,150 --> 00:34:00,240
Kremlin says two drones were
used in an attack on the

592
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,840
presidential residence in the
early hours of Wednesday. It

593
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,410
claims Ukraine was behind it.
But Kiva strongly denies the

594
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allegations.

595
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:11,340
This is what the Kremlin says
was an attempt on the life of

596
00:34:11,340 --> 00:34:16,560
Vladimir Putin. And all object
is intercepted by air defenses.

597
00:34:17,130 --> 00:34:20,670
Russia says it was a drone, one
of two that officials say were

598
00:34:20,670 --> 00:34:24,300
launched by Ukraine in an
audacious attack aimed at the

599
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:28,380
Kremlin complex. Two unmanned
aerial vehicles were aimed at

600
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the Kremlin and official
statement reads as a result of

601
00:34:31,590 --> 00:34:34,680
timely actions taken by the
military and special services

602
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,280
with the use of radar warfare
systems, the devices were put

603
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,030
out of action.

604
00:34:40,350 --> 00:34:43,890
Adam Curry: I think there's a
backdrop to this that there was

605
00:34:43,950 --> 00:34:48,960
a so called drone which looked
like an oversize RC aircraft

606
00:34:49,470 --> 00:34:53,790
with apparently with a block of
C four in it. That didn't quite

607
00:34:53,790 --> 00:34:57,420
make it to Moscow and crashed
landed and there's photos of it

608
00:34:57,420 --> 00:34:59,670
and it's sort of like It's like
one of those remote control

609
00:34:59,670 --> 00:35:03,720
planes. Is that you that you see
at a demo demonstration day?

610
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,850
Yeah, this is not this is not a
Reaper drone. No,

611
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,790
John C Dvorak: there's a
dipshit, drones, dip shield

612
00:35:11,790 --> 00:35:12,810
Adam Curry: drones. Exactly.

613
00:35:14,070 --> 00:35:18,060
John C Dvorak: So, so then I sit
down, that's the report. That's

614
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:21,120
pretty much all we need. But
then it goes on, they started to

615
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,140
do some analysis. And in this
next clip, they have the blink

616
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and clip that I've been trying
to find. Which is this, you

617
00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:36,120
know, spa, the world's worst
analogy, and you'll hear it in

618
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,370
here. And then I will talk about
it for a second because it's,

619
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:44,820
the guy doesn't seem to get the
gist of this old analogy. LET'S

620
00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:46,110
PLAY CLIP two.

621
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,460
Unknown: So the Kremlin said
that this is a wedge drone

622
00:35:50,460 --> 00:35:55,110
attack was a dry run in
preparation for May the nine to

623
00:35:55,110 --> 00:35:59,220
add puts him will be vulnerable
because his whereabouts unknown

624
00:35:59,220 --> 00:36:00,180
and events.

625
00:36:00,690 --> 00:36:03,990
It is a theory that not everyone
is convinced about.

626
00:36:04,050 --> 00:36:08,940
I've seen the reports. I can't
in any way validate them. We

627
00:36:08,940 --> 00:36:13,560
simply we simply don't know.
Second, I would take anything

628
00:36:13,860 --> 00:36:17,790
coming out of the Kremlin with a
very large shaker of salt. Okay,

629
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,480
what? A shaker of salt.

630
00:36:21,690 --> 00:36:24,750
John C Dvorak: So when I first
heard about the shaker of salt

631
00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:28,290
comment, I was dig trying to dig
it up. And it turned out luckily

632
00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:32,760
have showed up in Al Jazeera.
This the analogy of course, as

633
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,940
you know, you've heard it, I'll
take it with a grain of salt. I

634
00:36:35,970 --> 00:36:39,210
mean, it's meaningless because a
grain of salt is nothing. It's a

635
00:36:39,210 --> 00:36:43,440
grain, so who cares? But a
shaker of salt is not

636
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:49,140
meaningless. That's a lot of
salt. Yes, it sure is.

637
00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:50,760
Adam Curry: So what is

638
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,580
John C Dvorak: he trying to say?
Is this is actually saying that

639
00:36:53,580 --> 00:36:58,080
this is a big deal, because
that's what his analogy implies.

640
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,890
Adam Curry: Well, I think what
he's trying to say is, it's

641
00:37:01,890 --> 00:37:05,340
Russian disinformation. We all
know the Kremlin lies, but he's

642
00:37:05,370 --> 00:37:05,790
no, that's

643
00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:08,370
John C Dvorak: what he's saying.
He's saying that overtly. But to

644
00:37:08,370 --> 00:37:12,720
use the analogy of a grain of
salt to a shaker of salt. Yeah,

645
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,040
he's an idiot.

646
00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:20,070
Adam Curry: Oh, I know. He got
this from Chad GPT GPT

647
00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:27,360
suggestion. And, you know, I
don't think it was Ukraine. I

648
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,390
don't think it was something
that it was probably just some

649
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,220
some kid on the outskirts of
Moscow. I mean, this this thing

650
00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:39,450
was nothing special. was ever to
see for well, we don't know if

651
00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:42,690
this had C four on it. We don't
know I thought you said the

652
00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:45,000
first one. No, the first one.
The first one but that crashed

653
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,200
way short of but doesn't matter.
It's this is all to me. It's all

654
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,610
distraction. Let's see.

655
00:37:51,509 --> 00:37:53,909
John C Dvorak: I I agree with
your clip three. He's got to

656
00:37:53,909 --> 00:37:55,409
laugh in it. So let's go there.

657
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:58,350
Unknown: On a visit to Finland.
President Solinsky denied

658
00:37:58,350 --> 00:38:00,060
Ukraine's involvement. So

659
00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:09,660
we don't attack Putin or Moscow.
Or we fight on on our territory.

660
00:38:09,930 --> 00:38:13,320
We're defending our
religiousness. It is. We don't

661
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,830
have you know, enough weapon for
this.

662
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,460
John C Dvorak: He's begging for
money again.

663
00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:23,580
Adam Curry: He got some I think.
I think we gave him some more

664
00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:24,660
money on Wednesday.

665
00:38:24,810 --> 00:38:27,180
John C Dvorak: That's a slippery
way of begging for my uh, you

666
00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:30,480
know, we did nothing to do with
it. But we can in fact, we can't

667
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,030
even afford it. We can't afford
it if you give us a money maybe

668
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:33,600
we do it dude.

669
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,210
Adam Curry: We could crowdfund
that drone. I mean, this guy is

670
00:38:36,210 --> 00:38:39,810
unbelievable. wait and wait
until you hear my clips you

671
00:38:39,810 --> 00:38:40,950
share it. Okay, so

672
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:43,110
John C Dvorak: here we go with
this that final clip on the

673
00:38:43,110 --> 00:38:44,370
drones the reaction

674
00:38:44,430 --> 00:38:47,820
Unknown: get even as air raid
siren sounded in the Ukrainian

675
00:38:47,820 --> 00:38:51,630
capital. The mere possibility
that Ukraine had struck a blow

676
00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:55,140
at the heart of Russian power
was thrilling for some

677
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,980
of my classmates and I have been
talking about this all day. It's

678
00:38:58,980 --> 00:39:02,010
very cool and very joyful. It's
lifted my spirits.

679
00:39:02,850 --> 00:39:05,850
In its official statement, the
Kremlin said it reserves the

680
00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:09,960
right to take retaliatory
measures where and when it sees

681
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,380
fit.

682
00:39:11,009 --> 00:39:13,169
John C Dvorak: Now, of course,
they would say so the Ukrainian

683
00:39:13,169 --> 00:39:16,109
students are all jacked up about
this. Yeah.

684
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,530
Adam Curry: I mean, you really
believe that this is just this

685
00:39:19,530 --> 00:39:20,940
is propaganda. This is

686
00:39:21,870 --> 00:39:24,210
John C Dvorak: I mean, to a
point but they they were

687
00:39:24,210 --> 00:39:26,550
somebody that it wasn't like an
actor

688
00:39:26,580 --> 00:39:30,540
Adam Curry: or the students in
school. I thought that you know,

689
00:39:30,540 --> 00:39:34,920
the, the Russian Russia was
attacking keep everyone's has to

690
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,740
hide because they're getting
ready for the spring offensive.

691
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,400
It's all propaganda. All the
journalists are hooting and

692
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,600
hollering up in in Poland
they're all drinkin hanging out

693
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,670
with the women of the night.

694
00:39:48,540 --> 00:39:50,160
Unknown: What's good is what you
do.

695
00:39:51,810 --> 00:39:53,370
John C Dvorak: Women of the
night

696
00:39:55,230 --> 00:40:00,960
Adam Curry: I don't know why I
said night All right, so let's

697
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,340
get back. Let's get back to
reality as, as we have to wind

698
00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:10,080
this war down. We have to wind
this war down. We have an actual

699
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,310
war that we're not an actual
war, but we have sales jobs. We

700
00:40:14,310 --> 00:40:18,720
have stuff to do over there in
Philippines and Taiwan, China.

701
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:23,190
See, there's real money to be
had people we've got this guy is

702
00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:28,500
he wants to tiddlywinks. Ms no
sales in these drones? No, we're

703
00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:33,150
not. We got to wind this down.
So how do we do it? Well, let's

704
00:40:33,150 --> 00:40:38,400
crank up the old narrative of
we're going to apply prosecute

705
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,340
Putin, because not Russia, of
course, we'd love the Russian

706
00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:45,150
people. It's all about Putin. So
how do we do that? Well, we have

707
00:40:45,150 --> 00:40:48,330
to get them to the place where
we have successfully prosecuted

708
00:40:48,330 --> 00:40:53,190
Putin before. And that is the
Hague in the Netherlands. And

709
00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:58,380
nothing like doing a little
ceremony on the eve of May 5,

710
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,940
actually was there may 4 with
which is on the eve of May 5,

711
00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:08,940
may 5 is Liberation Day in the
Netherlands a big deal. On

712
00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:13,800
something very impressive, the
Dutch still do. And that is May

713
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:20,190
4 8pm. There is a moment of a
minute of silence. And literally

714
00:41:20,190 --> 00:41:24,420
people stop their cars on the
highway get out. And we'll just

715
00:41:24,450 --> 00:41:29,310
stand there and be silent for a
minute to remember the fallen of

716
00:41:29,340 --> 00:41:33,990
World War Two. So of course,
we've got to bring this Nazi in.

717
00:41:35,130 --> 00:41:38,250
Because the AES off brigade is
literally naming streets after

718
00:41:38,250 --> 00:41:41,100
Nazi heroes and some of the
Dutch are onto it. Now there's

719
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:43,620
people writing about this and
paper saying hey, why is this

720
00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:47,160
guy here on this day? But that
would not be the message we get

721
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,300
from Mark Ritter. And that is
the way you pronounce it. M five

722
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:57,240
M Rita? Who is a unmarried,
childless former HR manager at

723
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:58,860
Unilever. Yes.

724
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,080
John C Dvorak: How are they
pronouncing it on the M five M?

725
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:08,070
Unknown: Root? root root root?
Root? root root? Jimmy Dore does

726
00:42:08,070 --> 00:42:11,100
it. Dude, call one Dutch please
call me

727
00:42:12,570 --> 00:42:16,800
Adam Curry: to tell you what
anything you want. So Luca is an

728
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,760
unmarried, childless former HR
manager Unilever, somehow he has

729
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,900
been the prime minister for I
think 10 years now. Didn't know

730
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:27,840
maybe you'd want this is his
fourth cabinet. Keep, just keep

731
00:42:27,870 --> 00:42:32,700
keep keep him in there. And he
welcomes valora Mia, to the

732
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:39,660
Hegge floor. It has been 434
days since you spoke a few

733
00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:42,870
simple words that resonated all
over the world.

734
00:42:44,220 --> 00:42:46,530
Unknown: And I see what you were
saying then.

735
00:42:47,970 --> 00:42:50,550
Adam Curry: Sorry, I got a bus,
the Dutch guy. And I instead of

736
00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:54,090
it's called, quote, I'll be
quoting you, Rita, I'll quote

737
00:42:54,090 --> 00:42:58,620
you instead of I will say what
you were saying then. And I see

738
00:42:58,620 --> 00:43:02,070
what you're saying then. We are
all here defending our

739
00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:07,470
independence, our country. And
it will stay this way. This what

740
00:43:07,470 --> 00:43:14,490
you said. And it's those are
riveting words. You Oh, my gosh,

741
00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:16,980
I'm so glad we're all in front
of the Ukraine fly

742
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,110
John C Dvorak: to hear the
regular Winston Churchill, that

743
00:43:19,110 --> 00:43:20,820
guy. We are all here

744
00:43:20,850 --> 00:43:24,930
Adam Curry: defending our
independence, our country. And

745
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,700
it will stay this way. This what
you said. And it will be an

746
00:43:29,730 --> 00:43:34,260
understatement to say that
you've have to work to resolve

747
00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:38,940
and courage of the brave
soldiers and citizens Ukraine is

748
00:43:38,970 --> 00:43:43,770
without precedent in our
lifetime. Wow. without precedent

749
00:43:43,770 --> 00:43:47,370
in our lifetime. There's a lot
of people who are still around a

750
00:43:47,370 --> 00:43:49,950
world war two dude who you're
about to celebrate. And I would

751
00:43:49,950 --> 00:43:53,310
say, you know, there's some
differences in World War Two and

752
00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:57,240
what you're seeing in Ukraine,
but okay. And yourself has

753
00:43:57,240 --> 00:44:01,950
become a symbol or for the
country and country or country.

754
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:06,930
I like the country nice country
has become a symbol or for the

755
00:44:06,930 --> 00:44:11,460
country, and its people can do
when they're fighting for the

756
00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:16,320
existence, their freedom, and
your future. And we all admire

757
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,460
you for that. Yes, we by the
way, everyone's in a suit. Now

758
00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:25,380
it's a nice reception. And he's
he's got his that. His

759
00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:30,360
trademark. What does that drab
olive drab with a little logo in

760
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,170
the middle which is now his
whole that's his costume. You

761
00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:34,650
know, that little

762
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,320
John C Dvorak: little Yang
costume is so tight fitting t

763
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,580
shirt with sleeves.

764
00:44:38,580 --> 00:44:41,340
Adam Curry: He's got he's got
he's got his costume. I like

765
00:44:41,340 --> 00:44:44,550
Star Trek costume. All right.
Now let's get into the meat of

766
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:47,880
what we're really doing here.
When I had to, by the way, I

767
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,640
think that this was organized by
the State Department the whole

768
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,240
thing from beginning to end, and
I think I can prove it. Our

769
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:58,140
State Department when I had the
privilege to address the members

770
00:44:58,260 --> 00:45:03,090
of the Rabbah almost a year ago
As I said, we will stay with you

771
00:45:03,690 --> 00:45:05,100
every inch of the way.

772
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,630
Unknown: As far as I'm aware,

773
00:45:11,010 --> 00:45:14,100
Adam Curry: Ukraine, the
Netherlands most of the EU most

774
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:19,080
of the world uses the metric
system. Why would you say every

775
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,630
inch of the way unless it was
written by the US State

776
00:45:21,630 --> 00:45:27,930
Department? Winner

777
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,220
Unknown: seriously,

778
00:45:32,850 --> 00:45:36,060
John C Dvorak: this could have
been written by chat GPT Yeah,

779
00:45:36,060 --> 00:45:39,720
Adam Curry: you gotta go. I
said, we will stay with you

780
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,520
every inch of the way. And let
me assure you Volodymyr depths,

781
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,350
we are determined to keep our
word now let's get to the meat

782
00:45:49,350 --> 00:45:51,390
of the problem here. What do we
got to end this war man? What

783
00:45:51,390 --> 00:45:56,280
are we gonna do? Because this is
an unjust war against everything

784
00:45:56,310 --> 00:45:59,730
we stand for. Now. This is also
American State Department

785
00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:04,620
talking points and unjust war.
Since when is war just is it

786
00:46:04,620 --> 00:46:09,060
ever really just I mean, maybe
I'm,

787
00:46:09,150 --> 00:46:11,850
John C Dvorak: I think you're
onto something here. This is an

788
00:46:11,850 --> 00:46:16,470
interesting situation. It's
quite likely that the State

789
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:21,330
Department put this together.
Not only that, but as corny. Oh,

790
00:46:21,330 --> 00:46:23,100
which is classic Blinken.

791
00:46:24,450 --> 00:46:28,050
Adam Curry: The whole shaker
inch by inch. Exactly.

792
00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:30,810
John C Dvorak: Step by step
slowly, I turned

793
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,090
Adam Curry: is an inch by inch.
Isn't that the Robert De Niro

794
00:46:33,090 --> 00:46:35,010
speech in that football movie?

795
00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:38,550
John C Dvorak: inch by inch
really comes from the Three

796
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:40,380
Stooges, I think are one of
these.

797
00:46:41,580 --> 00:46:44,310
Adam Curry: All right, it's not
a just war, not a just war. It's

798
00:46:44,310 --> 00:46:50,010
not fair. Because this is an
unjust war against everything we

799
00:46:50,010 --> 00:46:55,050
stand for. This was war against
freedom, democracy, and rule of

800
00:46:55,050 --> 00:46:58,350
law in our parts of the world
rule of law. Yeah, it's actually

801
00:46:58,380 --> 00:47:02,730
as we know, it's a rule. It's a
war of aggression. Aggression.

802
00:47:03,060 --> 00:47:04,020
That's right, we stand

803
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,320
John C Dvorak: by away rule,
that rule of law, meme, blah,

804
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,190
blah, blah, is very American
rule of law, of course,

805
00:47:11,220 --> 00:47:14,640
Adam Curry: course democracy,
and rule of law in our parts of

806
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,750
the rules. That's why we stand
with Ukrainian people that had

807
00:47:18,750 --> 00:47:23,370
the bastion of democracy, which
is Ukraine. And right, you can

808
00:47:23,370 --> 00:47:28,710
count on our unwavering support
unwavering. Russia cannot read

809
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:32,160
this word and must be held
accountable. All the crimes of

810
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,270
aggression, and the injustice.
There it is the crimes of

811
00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:41,580
aggression that we do, we have
to look at these euphemisms, the

812
00:47:41,580 --> 00:47:47,340
crime of aggression. So if I'm
aggressive, that's a crime. If

813
00:47:47,340 --> 00:47:50,880
I'm aggressive in my speaking
patterns, if I'm aggressive on

814
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,360
the playing field, if I'm
aggressive in my academic

815
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,140
studies, that is a crime. That
literally calling the crime of

816
00:47:58,140 --> 00:47:59,580
aggression helped me John.

817
00:48:00,750 --> 00:48:01,950
John C Dvorak: No, no, you're on
a roll.

818
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,610
Adam Curry: Russia cannot read
this word. And it must be held

819
00:48:05,610 --> 00:48:10,260
accountable for all the crimes
of aggression, and the injustice

820
00:48:10,410 --> 00:48:14,040
that this inflicting on the
people of Ukraine, day after day

821
00:48:14,310 --> 00:48:19,350
in this horrific world. So what
better place to meet Dan here in

822
00:48:19,350 --> 00:48:26,910
The Hague, to vehicle capital of
the world? In case you didn't

823
00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:30,450
know, The Hague is the legal
capital of the world.

824
00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:34,020
John C Dvorak: And that we're
miniature world is

825
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:38,940
Adam Curry: Maduro, dumb,
whatever. It's called in Maduro.

826
00:48:38,940 --> 00:48:41,730
Dom Yeah, it's it's actually
close. It's I think it's between

827
00:48:41,730 --> 00:48:44,880
the Hague and Rotterdam
miniature world miniature world.

828
00:48:45,870 --> 00:48:48,360
So it's it's quite cute Maduro
Dom

829
00:48:48,450 --> 00:48:50,190
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's
dynamite. I would recommend

830
00:48:50,220 --> 00:48:54,180
every anyone who has a chance to
visit this little operation to

831
00:48:54,180 --> 00:49:03,630
do do little to go do it. I've
fastened it anyway. I'm with you

832
00:49:03,630 --> 00:49:06,990
on everything so far, but I've
got my conclusion is different

833
00:49:06,990 --> 00:49:07,620
than yours.

834
00:49:08,070 --> 00:49:10,560
Adam Curry: By the way the
Maduro dam is in The Hague. I'm

835
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,590
sorry. It's not between Hague
and Rotterdam, thanks to NPC.

836
00:49:13,740 --> 00:49:14,910
Alright, what's your conclusion?

837
00:49:16,290 --> 00:49:19,410
John C Dvorak: We're going to
we're gearing up to actually do

838
00:49:19,410 --> 00:49:22,590
an invasion. boots on the ground
American soldiers.

839
00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:26,160
Adam Curry: No, absolutely not.
We're gearing up to end the war.

840
00:49:26,490 --> 00:49:29,130
And we're doing it with all
these fluffy we're and the way

841
00:49:29,130 --> 00:49:34,170
we do it is we come up with we
come up with a way to take the

842
00:49:34,170 --> 00:49:38,010
money that we confiscated,
illegal way back for the crimes

843
00:49:38,010 --> 00:49:44,310
of aggression. Then we prosecute
Putin in the capital of the

844
00:49:44,310 --> 00:49:48,390
legal capital of the world, just
like we did before. So what

845
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:52,350
better place to meet than here
in The Hague, the legal capital

846
00:49:52,380 --> 00:49:57,960
of the world ever since the
downing of Flight MH 17 in the

847
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,020
Netherlands have known that
Justice doesn't come

848
00:50:01,050 --> 00:50:04,680
automatically. And this was mh
17, the Malaysian flight which

849
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:04,800
they

850
00:50:05,189 --> 00:50:08,279
John C Dvorak: rigged, the
rigged report never been

851
00:50:08,279 --> 00:50:12,269
released. The box has never been
released as phony the same.

852
00:50:13,259 --> 00:50:16,379
They're just making the Hague
look like a phony baloney

853
00:50:16,379 --> 00:50:18,209
operation when he brings that
in.

854
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,029
Adam Curry: And they brought in
Bellingcat. The same the same

855
00:50:22,229 --> 00:50:26,459
intelligence operation who had
all the proof of the boot rocket

856
00:50:26,459 --> 00:50:30,119
being shot from Russia. No, he
was Ukraine. We I mean, man, we

857
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:33,569
did so much on it. We had so
much coverage of that. So he's

858
00:50:33,569 --> 00:50:37,019
pulling these two together. And
of course, that's just over now.

859
00:50:37,019 --> 00:50:39,629
Oh, no, no, we already know that
doesn't come easily. But but you

860
00:50:39,629 --> 00:50:43,229
know, it we all know it's as
good as it's as good as we

861
00:50:43,229 --> 00:50:48,029
basically have him hanging Putin
for MH 17 And we'll hang him for

862
00:50:48,029 --> 00:50:51,479
this too, so that everybody can
take the money final payout.

863
00:50:51,479 --> 00:50:56,009
Everybody gets their cash.
That's what's going on. I make

864
00:50:56,009 --> 00:51:00,449
some tea. We in the Netherlands
have known that justice doesn't

865
00:51:00,449 --> 00:51:03,779
come automatically. You have to
have staying power.

866
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,190
John C Dvorak: Setting power.
That means you need to buy

867
00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:09,690
deodorant commercially the

868
00:51:09,690 --> 00:51:12,300
Adam Curry: Viagra of law I
don't I don't know what kind of

869
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:15,600
state and power you need. But
that's weird. Let's have known

870
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:19,380
you know the State Department.
Hey, hey, I know I was putting

871
00:51:19,380 --> 00:51:21,870
some funny was putting the
staying power just see if anyone

872
00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:25,320
catches it make make that Rick
root guy say that make him say

873
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,080
that. Okay, that's cool. Did
justice doesn't come

874
00:51:28,110 --> 00:51:32,700
automatically. You have to have
staying power. The Netherlands

875
00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:36,390
will do everything it can to
ensure that justice is done for

876
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:40,680
Ukraine, however long it takes.
And however difficult it may be.

877
00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:45,660
It's the term is whatever it
takes. But okay. Flow to me, I

878
00:51:45,660 --> 00:51:48,210
should know your fish to the
Netherlands couldn't have come

879
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,560
at the more symbolic moment.
Every year. On the fourth of May

880
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,160
we remember the Dutch victims of
the Second World War, and all

881
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,370
the soldiers who have given
their life since then, for peace

882
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,140
and freedom worldwide. Tomorrow
on the fifth of May Liberation

883
00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:08,250
Day, we are fortunate that we
can celebrate that we have been

884
00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:12,360
a free country since 1945. And a
lot of Dutch are pissed about

885
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,660
this. Like what is that guy
doing here? This is a this is

886
00:52:15,660 --> 00:52:20,070
our war remembrance. For our
people. The country was

887
00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:23,850
flattened. people ate sugar
beets. They ate nettle soup with

888
00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:29,160
rocks. So now Now, I'm not
liking that. So Zelinsky then

889
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:34,200
goes to the International
Criminal Court and does a little

890
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,320
bit and I'm not going to tell
you what the backdrop. All these

891
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,440
things have a backdrop with
their slogan. And it was a

892
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,050
printed slogan, which I'm not
going to tell you just yet,

893
00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:46,920
because the term is used in this
report from France 24. Luckily,

894
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,670
we don't have to listen to him
talking. We have the F 24. Lady

895
00:52:50,760 --> 00:53:00,000
to tell us kind of exactly what
Volodymyr said in this. In this

896
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,430
speech at the International
Criminal Court.

897
00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:08,250
Unknown: He also talked about
the importance of justice that

898
00:53:08,250 --> 00:53:10,020
there can be no peace without
justice.

899
00:53:11,940 --> 00:53:15,120
Adam Curry: Literally on the
background and said no peace for

900
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,880
Ukraine without justice. Does
that sound familiar?

901
00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:21,660
John C Dvorak: That's one of our
one of our lefty slogans from

902
00:53:21,660 --> 00:53:22,500
the United States.

903
00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:25,260
Adam Curry: No, George Floyd, No
justice, no peace. Yeah,

904
00:53:25,290 --> 00:53:27,750
John C Dvorak: there's a George
Floyd. Yep. So we made it. But

905
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:30,240
it's been around forever, that
it's always the same thing.

906
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:32,820
Adam Curry: But but now they've
just turned it around and said,

907
00:53:33,060 --> 00:53:37,740
there will be no peace for
Ukraine without justice. So what

908
00:53:37,740 --> 00:53:41,460
they're saying is in the way I
see it, is we will call peace

909
00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:44,880
after we have justice. What is
justice, that means we convict

910
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,910
Putin, we don't have to throw
him in jail. We have just like

911
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:52,050
mh 17 We convict him. We take
the money that we confiscated,

912
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:53,310
and then we make peace.

913
00:53:53,340 --> 00:53:59,100
Unknown: He also talked about
the importance of justice, that

914
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:02,220
there can be no peace without
justice, because unless issues

915
00:54:02,250 --> 00:54:05,970
are fully properly resolved,
they simply erupt again later

916
00:54:05,970 --> 00:54:10,050
on. For him, it is vital that
Vladimir Putin is held to

917
00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:14,250
account at this court, he made
no bones about that. And he also

918
00:54:14,250 --> 00:54:19,890
said that that should be
stipulated in any negotiated

919
00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:23,820
peace agreement that there must
be no repetition of aggression,

920
00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:27,240
Adam Curry: repetition of
aggression, all that horrible

921
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:28,650
crime, again, by Russia,

922
00:54:28,770 --> 00:54:33,570
Unknown: towards Ukraine. So he
is very clearly setting out his

923
00:54:33,570 --> 00:54:37,380
points. It is true that Ukraine
might not get all at once and

924
00:54:37,830 --> 00:54:42,480
there is a lot of discussion
about when this war might end,

925
00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:47,580
and what might constitute some
sort of acceptable settlement to

926
00:54:47,580 --> 00:54:51,660
Ukraine. So it's about the money
and there are murmurings that

927
00:54:51,660 --> 00:54:58,500
perhaps Ukraine should settle
for the 2014 borders and forget

928
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:02,790
about Crimea. He is saying No
way, we want Crimea back. We

929
00:55:02,790 --> 00:55:07,110
want our territory. And we want
our values, which are universal

930
00:55:07,110 --> 00:55:08,400
values respected.

931
00:55:12,660 --> 00:55:15,390
Adam Curry: So that's new. He's
not gonna get he's not gonna get

932
00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:19,050
Crimea. He's just he just using
that as a chip. We need

933
00:55:19,050 --> 00:55:23,880
universal values back to the
back to the 94. What did you

934
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,290
say? 9094? Let

935
00:55:25,290 --> 00:55:28,020
John C Dvorak: me say they had a
date I forget what it was just

936
00:55:28,020 --> 00:55:28,380
check it.

937
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:32,610
Unknown: Was it this one? Hey,
oh, I have to rewind. There we

938
00:55:32,610 --> 00:55:32,910
go.

939
00:55:33,359 --> 00:55:38,219
Let's forget about Crimea. He is
saying No way. Was it here for

940
00:55:38,579 --> 00:55:42,059
the 2014 borders

941
00:55:42,060 --> 00:55:45,690
Adam Curry: 2014 borders, okay,
which is, which is kind of what

942
00:55:45,690 --> 00:55:50,970
Putin wants. So we get to 2014
borders back to which is the

943
00:55:50,970 --> 00:55:54,870
Donbass region, which may be
just a demilitarized zone. And

944
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:57,900
then you get your money, which
is kind of ABS it's probably

945
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:01,860
already been stolen by now. So
everyone already hadn't. Lansky

946
00:56:01,860 --> 00:56:05,190
has billions and offshore bank
accounts. This is coming to an

947
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:08,640
end. So I do not think there's
boots on the ground coming. And

948
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,990
the reason for that is this next
report, which is obvious what

949
00:56:12,990 --> 00:56:15,870
what everyone's looking at
because what do we have we have

950
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:22,080
a dinky toy dipshit drone flying
over the Kremlin. Volodymyr

951
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,140
saying we don't have we don't
have we don't have this

952
00:56:25,140 --> 00:56:28,650
capability. Now because it's all
over here, bro.

953
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,890
Unknown: Well, the Taiwan US
Defense Industry Forum was an

954
00:56:31,890 --> 00:56:35,520
event where people gathered
mainly to discuss how to buy and

955
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,880
sell more weapons. It lasted
around three hours it took place

956
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,060
with a convention center in
Taipei and representatives of

957
00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:46,500
around 25 US defense contractors
reportedly attended and days

958
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:49,110
before here in Beijing, the
spokesman of China's defense

959
00:56:49,110 --> 00:56:52,170
ministry said that he was quote
unquote, extremely concerned

960
00:56:52,170 --> 00:56:56,190
about the forum he criticized
the US as military industrial

961
00:56:56,190 --> 00:57:00,510
complex and accused Taiwan's
ruling DPP of inviting wolves

962
00:57:00,510 --> 00:57:03,870
into their home. There's also
been a few editorials that were

963
00:57:03,870 --> 00:57:08,340
published in Chinese state media
criticizing the event last week

964
00:57:08,370 --> 00:57:11,850
in the past few days. So we
haven't seen much new this

965
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,970
Wednesday morning, though we
have recorded an uptick in

966
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,200
Chinese military activity in
around the Taiwan Strait. And it

967
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,980
is a little bit too early to
save this has a direct link to

968
00:57:23,010 --> 00:57:26,040
that event or not. What I can
say though, is that the forum

969
00:57:26,250 --> 00:57:28,770
isn't really much of a big deal.
If you look at the bigger

970
00:57:28,980 --> 00:57:32,760
picture, the US has already sold
10s of billions of dollars worth

971
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:37,620
of weapons to Taipei since 1979.
And earlier this year,

972
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:41,190
Washington approved the sale of
$619 million worth of weapons,

973
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:45,780
including F 16. fighter jet to
Taipei, that was the biggest

974
00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:49,680
sale of 2023. So far. So these
activities aren't going to stop

975
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,970
anytime soon. These deals do do
come though, as Beijing has been

976
00:57:54,180 --> 00:57:58,200
ramping up pressure military and
political pressure on the self

977
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,660
Rhode Island in recent years.

978
00:58:00,810 --> 00:58:04,860
Adam Curry: So we'll do whatever
it takes for Ukraine. But the f6

979
00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:10,560
teams that go into Taiwan
biggest sale of the year. This

980
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,650
is it. This is the Bonanza they
don't give a crap about Ukraine.

981
00:58:14,340 --> 00:58:16,590
John C Dvorak: We're putting
boots on the ground. That's why

982
00:58:16,590 --> 00:58:17,700
Susan Rice quick.

983
00:58:18,180 --> 00:58:21,750
Adam Curry: She's She's running
mic Obama's campaign, bro.

984
00:58:22,140 --> 00:58:24,720
John C Dvorak: Whatever it takes
is a term that keeps coming up.

985
00:58:25,170 --> 00:58:29,190
And the only way Biden is going
to stand off as he thinks is if

986
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:32,550
he gets foot feet on the ground,
because that's the way you

987
00:58:32,550 --> 00:58:34,860
always Americans always think,
well, you know, you're in a

988
00:58:34,860 --> 00:58:38,250
conflict. We can't abandon our
president now.

989
00:58:38,460 --> 00:58:42,090
Adam Curry: Yes, I read the
newsletter. And that is that is

990
00:58:42,660 --> 00:58:46,110
sent in edit. No, I'm sorry. I
was out doing important things.

991
00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:50,610
There was nothing to edit, do
you? It was fine. I didn't see

992
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:54,660
any mistakes. But I'm sorry.
You're right. I got distracted.

993
00:58:54,660 --> 00:59:00,990
And that was it. I was prepping
for the show. That is a that is

994
00:59:00,990 --> 00:59:03,960
certainly a playbook American
presidents have used but he is

995
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,020
being taken down. He's been
being taken down by the Democrat

996
00:59:07,020 --> 00:59:10,890
Party. He's a marked man.
There's no way and they're just

997
00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:17,220
enlisting the Republicans now. I
didn't know what is wrong with

998
00:59:17,220 --> 00:59:19,260
this weather with what's wrong
with this clip. Now, why won't

999
00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:20,400
this play? Let me say

1000
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,030
John C Dvorak: I want to mention
something I did get a note from

1001
00:59:24,030 --> 00:59:27,450
one of our producers who's in
the army who said that he's over

1002
00:59:27,450 --> 00:59:31,650
there. And he says the reporting
about soldiers in Ukraine

1003
00:59:31,650 --> 00:59:36,990
already is not being handled at
all by the mainstream media. And

1004
00:59:37,020 --> 00:59:38,550
I'm telling you, something's up.

1005
00:59:39,870 --> 00:59:43,020
Unknown: Hold on a second. I
have it here. Oh, this is really

1006
00:59:43,020 --> 00:59:48,780
weird. This clip, it's got this
whole Grassley thing. I wonder

1007
00:59:48,780 --> 00:59:51,420
what's gonna happen to this
clip. You've heard about this.

1008
00:59:52,290 --> 00:59:55,740
The the here we got to see if I
play it this way. Maybe this

1009
00:59:55,740 --> 00:59:56,610
will work. Let me say

1010
00:59:59,730 --> 01:00:01,620
Adam Curry: that Yeah, listen to
this. Listen, I don't know why

1011
01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:03,660
it's not playing my regular
system. Here we go. Senator. I

1012
01:00:03,660 --> 01:00:06,960
Unknown: know you've also just
issued a statement on you, as

1013
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:12,060
well as your colleague James
Comer demanding the FBI record

1014
01:00:12,060 --> 01:00:16,050
on alleging criminal, this
criminal scheme involving then

1015
01:00:16,050 --> 01:00:20,070
Vice President Biden, this
congressional subpoena, you say

1016
01:00:20,070 --> 01:00:24,360
seeks a specific FBI document.
Senator, thank you for jumping

1017
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,050
on with us. What

1018
01:00:25,050 --> 01:00:29,520
can you tell us? Well, I will
only add to what you say that

1019
01:00:29,550 --> 01:00:35,040
this comes from credible and on
classified whistleblower

1020
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,750
disclosures, this possible
criminal activity when Biden was

1021
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:44,940
vice president. And we're, we
want this information. And

1022
01:00:44,940 --> 01:00:49,860
there's a subpoena going to be
areas issued now. And it really

1023
01:00:49,890 --> 01:00:54,510
boils down to my traditional
oversight of government.

1024
01:00:55,680 --> 01:01:00,120
Particularly see the executive
branch's doing the work that

1025
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,020
they're supposed to be doing. So
the Justice Department, the FBI

1026
01:01:04,020 --> 01:01:07,620
needs to come clean to the
American people what they did

1027
01:01:07,890 --> 01:01:11,850
with the document, because we
know the document exists from

1028
01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:19,080
very credible whistleblower
information that we got. We can

1029
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,620
we really need to know what
steps did the Justice Department

1030
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,590
and FBI take to investigate? And
to vet the document to determine

1031
01:01:28,590 --> 01:01:33,000
if it's accurate or not? And did
the Justice Department the FBI

1032
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,410
follow normal investigative
procedures? Or did they let

1033
01:01:37,410 --> 01:01:39,510
political calculations
interfere?

1034
01:01:40,140 --> 01:01:43,290
Adam Curry: So it's a double
whammy? Which is of course what

1035
01:01:43,290 --> 01:01:47,460
Obama does Obama is run by the
CIA. So we blame the FBI and we

1036
01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:50,910
get Biden out for an actual
crime, not something his kid

1037
01:01:50,910 --> 01:01:56,160
did. No for an actual crime on
US soil. This is a setup and you

1038
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,120
called it you call that you call
the takedown of Biden. Now you

1039
01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:00,990
know, your was

1040
01:02:00,990 --> 01:02:02,910
John C Dvorak: fighting back and
he's going to fight back by

1041
01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:07,170
sending troops to Ukraine.
That's the way he's gonna fight

1042
01:02:07,170 --> 01:02:10,080
back. While he knows what's
what's going on.

1043
01:02:10,830 --> 01:02:15,600
Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah, okay.
Well, but the military

1044
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,180
industrial complex, they don't
want

1045
01:02:18,180 --> 01:02:20,970
John C Dvorak: it. They're just,
they're just looking at their

1046
01:02:20,970 --> 01:02:21,960
bank accounts.

1047
01:02:22,170 --> 01:02:24,330
Adam Curry: They're all in
Taiwan with the ladies of the

1048
01:02:24,330 --> 01:02:24,540
night.

1049
01:02:24,570 --> 01:02:27,240
John C Dvorak: Well, that's more
money. It's just more money. And

1050
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,030
the 60s, you know, who gives a
shit those things? You got to

1051
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,520
face those things out and
started selling the expensive F

1052
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:33,450
30? Fives.

1053
01:02:35,340 --> 01:02:37,560
Adam Curry: The dog the dog that
don't fly.

1054
01:02:38,850 --> 01:02:40,260
Unknown: Flies, tell me what.

1055
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,560
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, while all
this is going down in 2023 It's

1056
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,490
unbelievable. But there's still
a whole country that will stop

1057
01:02:50,490 --> 01:02:54,960
dead in its tracks to watch an
old dude with an old bag getting

1058
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,700
a golden golden coach and be
turned into the king.

1059
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,250
Unknown: Anti monarchy
protesters in the UK are under

1060
01:03:02,250 --> 01:03:05,250
close watch. Ahead of the
coronation. The British Home

1061
01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:08,190
Office has issued a warning
letter saying planned peaceful

1062
01:03:08,190 --> 01:03:11,100
protests on coronation day will
be firmly blocked.

1063
01:03:11,130 --> 01:03:14,220
Adam Curry: I love planned
peaceful protests. In the US

1064
01:03:14,220 --> 01:03:17,010
Those are cool even during
COVID. There they will be

1065
01:03:17,010 --> 01:03:17,610
blocked

1066
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,760
Unknown: strong measures are in
place to prevent any disruptive

1067
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,360
activity. A new law will enable
12 months imprisonment for

1068
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,170
protesters blocking roads,
airports and railways unless it

1069
01:03:28,170 --> 01:03:31,170
from the home offices police
powers unit says the law has

1070
01:03:31,170 --> 01:03:34,020
been brought to prevent
disruption at major sporting and

1071
01:03:34,020 --> 01:03:38,370
cultural events blocking process
of the king of the climate

1072
01:03:38,370 --> 01:03:42,330
activists have unleashed the law
also lays down six months in

1073
01:03:42,330 --> 01:03:46,530
jail and a fine for protesters
locking onto other objects

1074
01:03:46,590 --> 01:03:48,960
including buildings like mark of
protest.

1075
01:03:49,530 --> 01:03:50,490
This is great.

1076
01:03:51,570 --> 01:03:53,370
John C Dvorak: You can name it
activists.

1077
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,950
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, the climate
activist even though he's the

1078
01:03:55,950 --> 01:03:57,270
climate guy is like

1079
01:03:57,270 --> 01:04:00,480
John C Dvorak: a climate nut
ball. These are they should be

1080
01:04:00,780 --> 01:04:03,450
pleased as punch that this guy's
getting in

1081
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,610
Adam Curry: now, but that's
because they're they're bold.

1082
01:04:05,610 --> 01:04:10,380
They're bold. They're both by
the way the members of the

1083
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:14,010
public had been invited to swear
their allegiance to the king.

1084
01:04:14,970 --> 01:04:20,310
They have people around the UK
and abroad who will be invited

1085
01:04:20,310 --> 01:04:24,090
to say the words I swear I will
pay true allegiance to Your

1086
01:04:24,090 --> 01:04:28,140
Majesty and Your heirs and
successors according to the law.

1087
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,080
So help me God says

1088
01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:34,920
Unknown: onto other objects
including buildings as a mark of

1089
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:39,180
protest right police powers to
stop and search protesters if

1090
01:04:39,180 --> 01:04:42,840
they suspect they're planning to
cause chaos anti monarchy group

1091
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,290
Republic described the letter as
very odd. The group has been

1092
01:04:46,290 --> 01:04:49,950
planning protests on coronation
day, their boundaries to read

1093
01:04:50,130 --> 01:04:54,090
knots making reports say are the
units like Climate Group

1094
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,830
extinction rebellion have been
sent similar lunches. Many

1095
01:04:58,830 --> 01:05:01,740
groups have his house what they
called certain action by the

1096
01:05:01,740 --> 01:05:05,220
home office. They call this a
restriction of freedom of speech

1097
01:05:05,250 --> 01:05:08,430
and right to a peaceful and
legitimate protest.

1098
01:05:08,460 --> 01:05:12,540
Adam Curry: Well, of course the
UK is is a speech free zone,

1099
01:05:12,540 --> 01:05:15,840
man. As in you can't use any.

1100
01:05:16,439 --> 01:05:19,319
John C Dvorak: Yeah and go to
the corner Speaker's Corner if

1101
01:05:19,319 --> 01:05:19,499
you

1102
01:05:19,769 --> 01:05:21,869
Adam Curry: remember I went
there on Tina, I were in the UK,

1103
01:05:21,869 --> 01:05:23,009
it was nobody there.

1104
01:05:23,489 --> 01:05:25,829
John C Dvorak: I've been there a
number of times I stay at a

1105
01:05:25,829 --> 01:05:28,229
place that's nearby. When I'm in
London. We

1106
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:31,590
Adam Curry: were there more
recent than us. Probably. Yeah.

1107
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:31,800
There's

1108
01:05:32,219 --> 01:05:34,289
John C Dvorak: been anybody
there. I first time I was in

1109
01:05:34,289 --> 01:05:37,619
there. And Alana was in 1973.
There was nobody there. I

1110
01:05:37,620 --> 01:05:44,670
Adam Curry: was there in 19.
See, I was 15. So that makes me

1111
01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:50,160
76. My dad took me and we went
to Speaker's Corner. I was very

1112
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,730
impressed. And there was no a
one or two guys standing on the

1113
01:05:53,730 --> 01:05:54,990
corner there talking to us.

1114
01:05:55,169 --> 01:05:56,519
John C Dvorak: Socialist. Yeah.

1115
01:05:58,230 --> 01:06:00,540
Adam Curry: But yeah, you can't
say anything on social media.

1116
01:06:00,570 --> 01:06:04,560
You can't do anything there
anything. And now he's like, Oh,

1117
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,250
you want a peaceful protest? No,
no, six months in jail. No.

1118
01:06:09,210 --> 01:06:11,790
Peaceful protest. No, no
peaceful protest for

1119
01:06:11,790 --> 01:06:13,890
John C Dvorak: Yeah, happy. Now
if we're going to talk about

1120
01:06:13,890 --> 01:06:17,190
this topic, and I want to
mention here that I've been

1121
01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:21,390
listening to some more podcasts
than usual. Yeah, they spend

1122
01:06:21,420 --> 01:06:27,810
hours on one topic. The Royals
were on no any one topic. Yeah.

1123
01:06:28,980 --> 01:06:32,310
We've already on our fourth
topic here. Yeah. So let's go to

1124
01:06:33,150 --> 01:06:38,670
so now I've got NPR is decided
to become the frontman row and

1125
01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:42,000
and promoter of Camilla

1126
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:45,420
Unknown: really, really the
HorseFace

1127
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:49,590
John C Dvorak: Do you want a
listen to a report that is so

1128
01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:55,740
disgusting. It's like a
hagiography just over the air of

1129
01:06:55,740 --> 01:07:00,120
Camilla and the whole setup the
whole thing? It's, it's to me

1130
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,170
it's remarkable. It's I

1131
01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:03,750
Adam Curry: think, yes, I do, of
course. And it feels to me like

1132
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:08,430
this is very wrong. Certainly
the NPR listening audience. I

1133
01:07:08,430 --> 01:07:12,810
believe that they were that the
NPR audience is Lady die Fans.

1134
01:07:13,140 --> 01:07:18,030
And if you're a Lady Diana fan,
which I would say I was a fan. I

1135
01:07:18,030 --> 01:07:22,440
mean, she I disagree with the
whole story. You know, boohoo

1136
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,340
poor poor princess now now she
was a she was a media whore. And

1137
01:07:26,340 --> 01:07:30,060
she liked it. And that
eventually got her killed. But

1138
01:07:30,990 --> 01:07:34,680
you know how she was treated
versus Camilla. Camilla is just

1139
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,980
she is Beelzebub compared to
Lady die.

1140
01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:40,410
John C Dvorak: Well, we're gonna
hear the update on this because

1141
01:07:40,410 --> 01:07:45,870
we have one of the key experts
in pushing boo boos narratives

1142
01:07:45,870 --> 01:07:49,320
coming on. But let's go with
Camilla one NPR

1143
01:07:49,410 --> 01:07:52,050
Unknown: over the past several
decades. The one time Camilla

1144
01:07:52,050 --> 01:07:54,510
Parker Bowles has been known as
many things.

1145
01:07:55,170 --> 01:07:57,060
Adam Curry: By the way, I think
we should all go by our full

1146
01:07:57,060 --> 01:08:00,450
middle names Adam Clark curry
and John Charles Dvorak and

1147
01:08:00,450 --> 01:08:01,830
Camilla Parker Bowles

1148
01:08:01,980 --> 01:08:05,580
Unknown: of the rakish Brigadier
Andrew Parker Bowles, girlfriend

1149
01:08:05,610 --> 01:08:09,600
of the heir to the throne. But
most of all the other woman in

1150
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,900
what turned out to be the not so
fairytale marriage of Charles

1151
01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:16,200
and Diana. And this Saturday,
she will officially have a new

1152
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:21,090
title Queen Tina Brown wrote the
palace papers inside the House

1153
01:08:21,090 --> 01:08:23,460
of Windsor. And she's on the
line to talk with us about

1154
01:08:23,460 --> 01:08:26,610
kimolos winding journey. Tina,
welcome back to the show. Thank

1155
01:08:26,610 --> 01:08:30,690
you so much. For Americans who
are not obsessed with the Royals

1156
01:08:30,690 --> 01:08:33,270
and who might know Camilla
mainly for her role in the

1157
01:08:33,270 --> 01:08:37,170
breakup of King Charles is then
Prince Charles's first marriage

1158
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:39,540
reminds us of her background
separate from Charles,

1159
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,500
Adam Curry: this is so not left
this obsessed,

1160
01:08:43,529 --> 01:08:46,739
Unknown: obsessed, obsessed with
the queen obsessed with the

1161
01:08:46,739 --> 01:08:48,449
Royals at fest.

1162
01:08:48,779 --> 01:08:51,659
Adam Curry: It's something that
all American women, for some

1163
01:08:51,659 --> 01:08:55,169
reason get to get a day off from
being political, and they can

1164
01:08:55,169 --> 01:08:58,529
all be obsessed. Oh, I love the
hat. I love the coach. It's a

1165
01:08:58,529 --> 01:09:01,379
fairy tale. It's it's weird.

1166
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,310
John C Dvorak: Now, this
particular presentation, I find

1167
01:09:05,310 --> 01:09:10,080
to be completely offensive. And
they bring in Tina Brown who is

1168
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,680
famous and she's like, I don't
know if she's royal washer, a

1169
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,920
royal watch. Well, I mean, she's
the one who started Vanity Fair.

1170
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:22,020
She's a very famous editor. And
you bring her in to do a hatchet

1171
01:09:22,020 --> 01:09:26,580
job of some sort or some
professional, not a hit job in

1172
01:09:26,580 --> 01:09:30,840
this case, but a flattery job.
And so we're going to be re

1173
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:36,690
educated about the greatness of
Camilla now say you're way off

1174
01:09:36,690 --> 01:09:40,620
with your data analysis yours
that's old. That's the old

1175
01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:44,640
analysis, did a new analysis I
want you to stay I want to ask

1176
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,150
her.

1177
01:09:47,550 --> 01:09:49,500
Adam Curry: Well, of course this
is you know, we have a special

1178
01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:54,150
relationship between the US and
the UK. So every person who has

1179
01:09:54,150 --> 01:09:59,070
authority to speak of the Royals
has to have like we had to be a

1180
01:09:59,070 --> 01:10:04,650
friend of so One or been at
parties. So what do we know what

1181
01:10:04,650 --> 01:10:07,410
her connection was what Tina
Brown's connection

1182
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,380
John C Dvorak: if you go to a
wiki page and start looking at

1183
01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:15,480
you'll see there's some deep
connection to Kingsman or

1184
01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:19,500
something who knows. Let's go to
part two of these clips coming

1185
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:19,560
to

1186
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,920
Unknown: comes from a very upper
class squire rocky kind of a

1187
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,730
background. Her father was a
major, very, very, extremely

1188
01:10:26,730 --> 01:10:30,000
well regarded veteran hero
actually, in the Second World

1189
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,270
War. Her mother was an
aristocrat, so she always was

1190
01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:37,350
raised in the extremely sort of
aristocratic Millia of a country

1191
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:41,550
debutante if you like in on the
Sussex down so her whole her

1192
01:10:41,550 --> 01:10:45,030
circle was always extremely
upper class bumping up against

1193
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:47,400
Royals in every conceivable
shape and form.

1194
01:10:47,850 --> 01:10:50,610
I've always thought of Charles
as sort of a stiff kind of

1195
01:10:50,610 --> 01:10:53,130
awkward person, although he's
grown into his role over the

1196
01:10:53,130 --> 01:10:55,350
years. What is her reputation?

1197
01:10:57,990 --> 01:11:02,760
Adam Curry: What is this NPR
lady? No. He was he was always a

1198
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:03,660
little bit stiff.

1199
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,730
John C Dvorak: But no, this is
like scripted. You're weird.

1200
01:11:05,730 --> 01:11:11,490
This is so scripted. It this is
i It's almost like an advert. A

1201
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,180
one of those phony baloney ads.
It's like it's almost like an

1202
01:11:15,180 --> 01:11:16,050
advertisement.

1203
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,080
Adam Curry: Is she referring to
a native ad? Is she referring to

1204
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,870
the time when we had the the
leaked phone call of Prince

1205
01:11:22,170 --> 01:11:26,280
Charles saying to Camilla I wish
it was your tampon? Is that Is

1206
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,800
that what she means? Really,
then he kind of grew into his

1207
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:29,340
role

1208
01:11:29,370 --> 01:11:30,510
Unknown: either will shape and
form.

1209
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,720
I've always thought of Charles
as sort of a stiff kind of

1210
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,240
awkward personal though he's
grown into his role over the

1211
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,140
years. What is her reputation or
the public sensibilities? No,

1212
01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:40,650
this

1213
01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:44,310
always wildly attractive,
tremendously earthy,

1214
01:11:45,150 --> 01:11:46,530
earthy, earthy.

1215
01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:52,560
Absolutely. times you know,
Compeller really was and indeed

1216
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,780
her her brother and sister were
very appealing to they were

1217
01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:57,750
known as the sexy fans because
the Shan family she was you

1218
01:11:57,750 --> 01:12:01,590
know, Camilla Shand? You know,
they were very appealing country

1219
01:12:01,590 --> 01:12:04,320
family, always the sort of toast
of every debutante party and

1220
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,780
hold on so she was a very
appealing woman and she could

1221
01:12:06,780 --> 01:12:10,230
have really married anyone. She
was definitely extremely popular

1222
01:12:10,260 --> 01:12:12,780
on the on the sort of, you know,
the single woman's circuit.

1223
01:12:13,050 --> 01:12:14,670
Well, you say appealing, but
what

1224
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,470
Adam Curry: else did she date on
the single woman circuit? Who

1225
01:12:19,470 --> 01:12:20,010
else

1226
01:12:20,759 --> 01:12:23,189
John C Dvorak: they go they
present this and then of course,

1227
01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:30,389
her next commentary is kind of
again is different. She presents

1228
01:12:30,389 --> 01:12:35,639
her as like some hottie back in
the day, and the toast of the

1229
01:12:35,639 --> 01:12:41,699
town and you know, her and her
siblings, and so so that she's

1230
01:12:42,629 --> 01:12:48,209
she's developing this, this,
this narrative that is just it's

1231
01:12:48,209 --> 01:12:49,109
hard to believe

1232
01:12:49,140 --> 01:12:51,150
Adam Curry: let me finish let me
finish this clip. There's 22

1233
01:12:51,150 --> 01:12:52,020
seconds left home

1234
01:12:53,010 --> 01:12:55,530
Unknown: definitely are
extremely popular on the on the

1235
01:12:55,530 --> 01:12:57,390
sort of, you know, the single
woman's circuit.

1236
01:12:57,660 --> 01:13:00,330
Well, you say appealing, but
there was a point where she was

1237
01:13:00,330 --> 01:13:03,270
one of the most hated women in
Britain, I believe the year

1238
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:06,840
after she married Charles, which
was 2005. A poll for The Times

1239
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,380
of London found only 21% of the
British public would be happy to

1240
01:13:10,380 --> 01:13:13,080
have her as queen. But last
year, just a few days after

1241
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,590
Queen Elizabeth died, a
different poll showed that 53%

1242
01:13:16,620 --> 01:13:18,750
of the British public thought
she'd do a good job in her new

1243
01:13:18,750 --> 01:13:21,150
role. How does she manage that
turnaround?

1244
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,810
Adam Curry: I don't see any
dating history of her on the

1245
01:13:24,810 --> 01:13:30,390
wiki pedia. When she did launch
the big bone walk campaign,

1246
01:13:30,660 --> 01:13:33,540
whatever that is. Wow.

1247
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:38,640
John C Dvorak: Okay, so we're
that was clip one, clip two,

1248
01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:41,250
part three. Okay, well, let's go
with Step Three because now we

1249
01:13:41,250 --> 01:13:42,690
get the WTF clip.

1250
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,180
Unknown: Well, first of all, you
know, that's the reason she was

1251
01:13:45,180 --> 01:13:47,760
so unpopular was really because
she was always seen through the

1252
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:52,590
prism of being, you know, the
usurper of the adored Princess

1253
01:13:52,590 --> 01:13:56,220
Diana. So you know, Diana used
to call her the Rottweiler and

1254
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,310
you know, she was not a glamour
girl come in or at any point I

1255
01:13:59,310 --> 01:14:01,920
mean, part of her is that this
is a woman who likes to wear

1256
01:14:02,519 --> 01:14:05,009
Adam Curry: I thought she was
the hottie hottie on the on the

1257
01:14:05,849 --> 01:14:08,369
John C Dvorak: braid there but
she was never the glamour girl

1258
01:14:08,369 --> 01:14:10,349
that Auntie at any point

1259
01:14:10,530 --> 01:14:13,200
Adam Curry: she's the Yoko of
the Royals man. Come on. Wait

1260
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,780
John C Dvorak: a minute. Just
the clip before this. She's

1261
01:14:15,780 --> 01:14:19,020
going on about she was a hottie
and she was the queen of the

1262
01:14:19,020 --> 01:14:22,380
dead, retired anybody gotten
married anybody? Blah, blah,

1263
01:14:22,380 --> 01:14:26,670
blah. And now she's never been
anything but. But a Rottweiler

1264
01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:27,720
or whatever that was. I

1265
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,820
Adam Curry: can't believe we're
doing a whole segment on this.

1266
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,290
John C Dvorak: It's just
deconstruction of NPR. Yeah,

1267
01:14:34,290 --> 01:14:34,500
that's

1268
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:37,590
Adam Curry: a good point. They
did anyway, onward that you know

1269
01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:39,810
what? Elon Musk is right. They
don't deserve to have the

1270
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:41,940
John C Dvorak: total agreement.

1271
01:14:42,540 --> 01:14:45,360
Unknown: And you know, she was
not a glamour girl. committer at

1272
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,690
any point, I mean, part of her
appeal. He likes to wear

1273
01:14:48,690 --> 01:14:51,660
comfortable shoes that she
doesn't like to get funny and

1274
01:14:51,809 --> 01:14:54,149
Adam Curry: comfortable shoes
because she doesn't like to get

1275
01:14:54,419 --> 01:14:56,249
that's hot on the dating scene.

1276
01:14:57,900 --> 01:15:00,990
John C Dvorak: Great. She wears
comfortable shoes because she

1277
01:15:00,990 --> 01:15:03,300
doesn't like to get bunions.
Tony that's

1278
01:15:03,300 --> 01:15:05,880
Adam Curry: literally in a world
where women wear comfortable

1279
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,070
shoes. This is horrible.

1280
01:15:08,100 --> 01:15:11,160
Unknown: She's because she
doesn't like to get bunions you

1281
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,740
know she has gardeners hands in
the sense that you know, rather

1282
01:15:13,740 --> 01:15:14,370
gardeners

1283
01:15:14,370 --> 01:15:17,580
Adam Curry: hands test oh my god
I've met this chick she's so

1284
01:15:17,580 --> 01:15:21,360
hot. She's wearing Crocs and
she's got bunions. Gardener

1285
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,930
hands, man all like crooked and
crap. Oh, I can't wait to bagger

1286
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,150
Unknown: you know, she has
gotten his hands in the sense of

1287
01:15:27,150 --> 01:15:29,340
you know, rather dirty
fingernails from her plunging

1288
01:15:29,340 --> 01:15:32,970
into amongst the greenery. A
real kind of dog walker covered

1289
01:15:32,970 --> 01:15:35,040
in dog has you know, she's not a
glamour woman.

1290
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:35,940
Wow.

1291
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,810
Adam Curry: All right, you know,
just because I don't know why I

1292
01:15:39,810 --> 01:15:41,700
have this. I have to give this
to you just right now.

1293
01:15:43,170 --> 01:15:46,470
Unknown: That is wow. Wow.

1294
01:15:47,340 --> 01:15:49,590
John C Dvorak: A clip of the day
after you're complaining.

1295
01:15:51,630 --> 01:15:56,370
Adam Curry: This was this is
horrible. Tina Brock. Wow. I all

1296
01:15:56,370 --> 01:16:00,030
I can say is wow, I've said it
too many times already. Man,

1297
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,340
John C Dvorak: it's
unbelievable. I know this. So

1298
01:16:02,340 --> 01:16:05,310
here we go with the UG clip.
This is a clip for

1299
01:16:06,810 --> 01:16:08,820
Unknown: and unfortunately for
her or you know, people knew

1300
01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:11,490
nothing really about her because
she was so very, very private.

1301
01:16:11,820 --> 01:16:14,340
Her friends knew she was this
extraordinary, attractive and

1302
01:16:14,340 --> 01:16:16,920
appealing woman but you know, in
terms of the public feeling

1303
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,470
about her, they saw her through
Diana's eyes which was usurper

1304
01:16:19,470 --> 01:16:23,100
and she had to have that stigma
and the press went after her was

1305
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:26,700
such viciousness. I mean, the
really appalling sexist comments

1306
01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:29,580
about Kamala, I mean, they used
to call her, you know, Baghel

1307
01:16:29,580 --> 01:16:31,500
trout. You know.

1308
01:16:33,660 --> 01:16:38,190
Adam Curry: I've never heard old
trout. I think that's a winner

1309
01:16:38,190 --> 01:16:38,730
show title

1310
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,730
Unknown: spaciousness. I mean,
the really appalling sexist

1311
01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:44,250
comments about Kamala, I mean,
they used to call her you know,

1312
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:45,600
Baghel trout,

1313
01:16:46,050 --> 01:16:47,970
Adam Curry: which were I mean,
she called her lady with

1314
01:16:47,970 --> 01:16:52,230
gardener hands a dog lady, by
the way. How can old trout be

1315
01:16:52,230 --> 01:16:57,990
bad? Passes? This is NPR man.
Crazy press

1316
01:16:58,350 --> 01:17:02,280
Unknown: Control. NAFTA was such
viciousness. I mean, the really

1317
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,770
appalling sexist comments about
Kamala, I mean, they used to

1318
01:17:04,770 --> 01:17:08,580
call her, you know, Baghel
trout. You know, I mean, there

1319
01:17:08,580 --> 01:17:12,540
was even a dish named after her
as haddock, Parker Bowles. I

1320
01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:15,090
mean, just the rudest thing had
to the point that she used to

1321
01:17:15,090 --> 01:17:18,630
joke to Charles and assign her
letter to him. You're devoted

1322
01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:21,750
old bag, Camilla. Because she'd
been called it so often.

1323
01:17:22,050 --> 01:17:24,360
Sounds like she was a good sport
about the abuse. Yes,

1324
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:26,700
she had a great sense of humor
that was part of her strength.

1325
01:17:26,730 --> 01:17:27,930
So do you think over time

1326
01:17:27,930 --> 01:17:31,080
the public has forgiven her and
it thinks, look, this is a

1327
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,570
legitimate relationship? Is it
legitimate love between these

1328
01:17:33,570 --> 01:17:36,330
two? And we've time time healed
how the public felt about her?

1329
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,000
Well, yes, because she's now
been a working royal for 20

1330
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,790
years actually really want
nearly 20 years. I mean, as well

1331
01:17:41,790 --> 01:17:45,150
as wife of Charles, there has
been an acceptance, I mean, in

1332
01:17:45,150 --> 01:17:48,870
some ways, because Charles now
becomes king so late, and she's

1333
01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:51,540
a woman of 75. After all, she
has now become sort of the

1334
01:17:51,540 --> 01:17:54,300
nation's grandmother and is sort
of on her way to becoming sort

1335
01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:57,450
of a national treasure. So
having kind of getting the

1336
01:17:57,450 --> 01:18:01,170
reward, as it were so late has
really been beneficial to her

1337
01:18:01,170 --> 01:18:04,050
because earlier, I don't think
the public would have accepted

1338
01:18:04,050 --> 01:18:06,540
it. But they're beginning to see
that she's a very hardworking,

1339
01:18:06,540 --> 01:18:09,330
very gracious, humorous,
unpretentious woman actually,

1340
01:18:09,330 --> 01:18:11,970
who has definitely improved
Charles's life and has really

1341
01:18:11,970 --> 01:18:15,090
transformed him into being an
unapologetically happy man.

1342
01:18:16,019 --> 01:18:17,879
Adam Curry: Oh, he looks so
happy, doesn't he?

1343
01:18:18,599 --> 01:18:21,749
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Now
you all should

1344
01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:24,720
Adam Curry: be ashamed of
themselves. don't donate to NPR.

1345
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:29,430
John C Dvorak: Know give us the
money Yeah, really. So so I get

1346
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:32,490
this last clip and like I say,
Keep listening to this thinking

1347
01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:37,440
there's got to be some things
someone some talent some what

1348
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:41,190
happened here, why am I
listening to Tina Brown, doing

1349
01:18:41,190 --> 01:18:45,660
shtick and then also trying to
be so complimentary in some sort

1350
01:18:45,660 --> 01:18:50,640
of a propagandist ik way? There
must be a rationale. There must

1351
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,610
be something something Ah, here
it comes and clip five see if

1352
01:18:53,610 --> 01:18:54,480
you can find it.

1353
01:18:54,660 --> 01:18:57,690
Unknown: In Prince Harry's very
popular recent memoir. He was

1354
01:18:57,690 --> 01:19:01,200
very critical of her and I
suppose like any blended family,

1355
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,870
let's call it the Windsors have
some complicated relationship.

1356
01:19:03,870 --> 01:19:03,960
Is

1357
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,690
Adam Curry: that a racist
comment blended family is that

1358
01:19:06,690 --> 01:19:12,000
because the Harry did not catch
that? Is that is that like

1359
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,480
people of color? Is that what
they mean? blended? Interesting

1360
01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:18,030
and catch let's just call it
blended

1361
01:19:18,059 --> 01:19:21,479
Unknown: racist in Prince
Harry's very popular recent

1362
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,509
memoir. He was very critical of
her and I suppose like any

1363
01:19:24,509 --> 01:19:27,269
blended family, let's call it
the Windsors have some

1364
01:19:27,269 --> 01:19:30,239
complicated relationships to
navigate. But he accused her of

1365
01:19:30,269 --> 01:19:32,939
feeding the press and negative
stories about him so she could

1366
01:19:32,939 --> 01:19:36,989
get better Press Is that likely
to contaminate how Brits feel

1367
01:19:36,989 --> 01:19:37,469
about her?

1368
01:19:37,530 --> 01:19:40,980
Well, I think there was a period
when Charles to really

1369
01:19:40,980 --> 01:19:44,490
rehabilitate both his own image
and that of Camilla after the

1370
01:19:44,490 --> 01:19:49,080
death of Diana hired a quite
resourceful, shall we say

1371
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:52,350
sophisticated press secretary
who was all about making her

1372
01:19:52,350 --> 01:19:55,590
reputation better and making
Charles's reputation but Harry

1373
01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:58,290
felt strongly that he and
William was sometimes thrown

1374
01:19:58,290 --> 01:20:00,690
under the bus for the sake of
their father. And for Camila's

1375
01:20:00,690 --> 01:20:04,740
PR, you know, I think that Harry
also does very much see that

1376
01:20:04,740 --> 01:20:08,310
through the furious, you know
lens of being the son of you

1377
01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:11,460
know the beloved Diana, his
wonderful mother. The only real

1378
01:20:11,460 --> 01:20:14,640
misery in her life was this
figure, Camilla so it's not

1379
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,420
really unlikely that Harry would
feel so strongly about it

1380
01:20:18,420 --> 01:20:20,400
because all his life he was
raised to think of her as the

1381
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:20,820
enemy.

1382
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:28,200
John C Dvorak: The PR woman,
then talented PR woman is still

1383
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:34,860
working for them. And Tina Brown
was to it. I guess she had to

1384
01:20:34,860 --> 01:20:35,700
mention it

1385
01:20:35,849 --> 01:20:38,339
Unknown: because she has her
friends with her she's friends.

1386
01:20:38,999 --> 01:20:39,629
And so she

1387
01:20:39,630 --> 01:20:42,480
John C Dvorak: mentioned it and
you next thing I'm thinking oh,

1388
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:47,130
this whole thing is a setup. The
PR woman arranged it this is

1389
01:20:47,130 --> 01:20:50,760
just a hagiography kind of
things. You probably pay Tina

1390
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:55,530
straight from the Royal budget.
Yeah, who knows? Well, it is a

1391
01:20:55,530 --> 01:20:56,490
scam

1392
01:20:56,519 --> 01:20:59,429
Adam Curry: and I think NPR
jumped on it because they want

1393
01:20:59,429 --> 01:21:02,369
some of that Harry and Megan
juice. You know, because that's

1394
01:21:02,369 --> 01:21:05,879
been very successful. It's been
very profitable. There Netflix

1395
01:21:06,179 --> 01:21:09,869
show has been you know, that was
one of the top viewed Netflix

1396
01:21:10,289 --> 01:21:14,039
shows ever. Yeah, so they're
just going for some cheap ass

1397
01:21:14,039 --> 01:21:21,869
ratings. With a with a cheap
couple in a cheap ass coach is

1398
01:21:21,869 --> 01:21:26,219
cheap, cheap ass. It's just
cheap has been big, cheap ass

1399
01:21:26,219 --> 01:21:27,719
thing. All right, I gotta
lighten the mood here for a

1400
01:21:27,719 --> 01:21:31,109
second. I need to tell you a
little story. That was pretty

1401
01:21:31,109 --> 01:21:34,199
light. I know but I'm gonna go
light into heavier stuff but

1402
01:21:34,199 --> 01:21:41,909
through a through a more modern
a modern conflict so the old

1403
01:21:41,909 --> 01:21:47,849
rockers are still out and about.
And Gene Simmons, I don't know

1404
01:21:47,849 --> 01:21:50,429
what he's doing. But he was he
was like, Hey, if you don't get

1405
01:21:50,429 --> 01:21:57,149
the COVID shot you should die.
So gene gene was a dick but Paul

1406
01:21:57,149 --> 01:22:04,529
Stanley of Kiss he's the guitar
player key is you know did

1407
01:22:04,529 --> 01:22:08,519
something very controversial.
Now these guys are all have a

1408
01:22:08,519 --> 01:22:12,239
Stanley's gotta be almost 70
These guys are all up there. And

1409
01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:14,609
I know them all and they're
interesting dudes you but you

1410
01:22:14,609 --> 01:22:17,669
know, they're still playing the
you know, the Connecticut fair

1411
01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:20,819
or whatever the kids probably
does is concealed draw big

1412
01:22:20,819 --> 01:22:28,529
audiences. And he posted about
trans Maoism. Doors we call

1413
01:22:28,559 --> 01:22:32,369
that's what we call it, but in
general is about transgender

1414
01:22:32,369 --> 01:22:36,269
children, you know about gender
affirming care. We've talked

1415
01:22:36,269 --> 01:22:39,149
about this. He says my thoughts
on what I'm seeing. There's a

1416
01:22:39,149 --> 01:22:41,759
big difference between teaching
acceptance and normalizing and

1417
01:22:41,759 --> 01:22:45,179
even encouraging participation
and a lifestyle that confuses

1418
01:22:45,179 --> 01:22:48,449
young children into questioning
their sexual identification, as

1419
01:22:48,449 --> 01:22:51,869
though some sort of game and
then the parents in some cases

1420
01:22:51,899 --> 01:22:55,379
allow it. There are individuals
who as adults may decide

1421
01:22:55,379 --> 01:22:58,199
reassignment is their needed
choice. But turning this into a

1422
01:22:58,199 --> 01:23:00,959
game or parents normalizing it
as some sort of natural

1423
01:23:00,959 --> 01:23:03,809
alternative. Or believing that
because little boy likes to play

1424
01:23:03,809 --> 01:23:06,749
dress up in his sister clothes
or a girl in her brother's we

1425
01:23:06,749 --> 01:23:10,199
should lead them steps further
down a path that's far from the

1426
01:23:10,199 --> 01:23:13,049
innocence of what they are
doing. With many children who

1427
01:23:13,049 --> 01:23:16,769
have no real sense of sexuality
or sexual experience caught up

1428
01:23:16,769 --> 01:23:20,669
in the fun of using pronouns and
seeing what they identify as

1429
01:23:20,789 --> 01:23:24,359
some adults mistakenly confuse
teaching acceptance with

1430
01:23:24,359 --> 01:23:26,909
normalizing and encouraging a
situation that has been a

1431
01:23:26,909 --> 01:23:29,939
struggle for those truly
affected and if turned into a

1432
01:23:29,939 --> 01:23:34,949
sad and dangerous fad. Well,
slow clap Tiffany pen tap for

1433
01:23:34,949 --> 01:23:39,029
Paul Stanley. This is good,
right? So yes, okay, Paul, you

1434
01:23:39,029 --> 01:23:43,799
know, of course, you know, it's
just a tweet now. Oh, the world

1435
01:23:43,799 --> 01:23:48,029
comes to an end. Oh, no. Oh,
boy. Paul Stanley, what does he

1436
01:23:48,029 --> 01:23:51,809
say now? Parallel to this a few
weeks ago, I didn't mention on

1437
01:23:51,809 --> 01:23:57,149
the show because D Schneider is
a drip. Then on D Snyder is the

1438
01:23:57,149 --> 01:24:01,499
lead singer of Twisted Sister
that pretty much only had one

1439
01:24:01,499 --> 01:24:05,849
hit. We're not going to take it
and and I'm sure that he wrote

1440
01:24:05,849 --> 01:24:07,829
it. I don't know who else I
should have checked out who else

1441
01:24:07,829 --> 01:24:11,099
wrote the song. But when you
have a song like that, you can

1442
01:24:11,519 --> 01:24:16,679
do you get your royalties and
you know, the the song is played

1443
01:24:16,679 --> 01:24:19,109
over and over and over again.
It's played in venues it's

1444
01:24:19,109 --> 01:24:21,839
played all over the world. It's
played as an anthem for all

1445
01:24:21,839 --> 01:24:24,809
kinds of stuff. It's it's one of
those pits that you could it's

1446
01:24:24,809 --> 01:24:28,319
like like writing White
Christmas almost. The money just

1447
01:24:28,319 --> 01:24:31,529
always comes in a you can always
dress up with the eye makeup.

1448
01:24:31,649 --> 01:24:34,709
Get your get your glam on get
your high heels on because

1449
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:36,989
that's what Twisted Sister was
you know the name Twisted

1450
01:24:36,989 --> 01:24:40,979
Sister. And you can always just
do gigs you can because all you

1451
01:24:40,979 --> 01:24:44,939
have to do is have 10 songs.
five songs a do we're not going

1452
01:24:44,939 --> 01:24:47,669
to take it three times. And
that's our show. Good night,

1453
01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:53,249
Connecticut. And I'm happy that
you remember. This must have

1454
01:24:53,249 --> 01:24:59,249
been 2010 2011 Maybe Yeah.
Howard Stern interviewed me for

1455
01:24:59,279 --> 01:25:03,479
Sirius X Sam, and I made a pitch
to Howard Stern. I said, Hey,

1456
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:08,519
you know, I'm authorized, which
I wasn't. But we knew we could

1457
01:25:08,519 --> 01:25:11,459
get the money. I said, But I'm
offered to offer you Howard

1458
01:25:11,459 --> 01:25:15,869
Stern $100 million to leave
Syria, I think is his contract

1459
01:25:15,869 --> 01:25:18,989
was up for renegotiation
renegotiation to leave Sirius

1460
01:25:18,989 --> 01:25:23,309
XM, be come over to pod show,
and we'll make a podcasting star

1461
01:25:23,309 --> 01:25:25,289
out if you remember this.

1462
01:25:26,130 --> 01:25:27,510
John C Dvorak: I do remember
this. Yeah.

1463
01:25:27,570 --> 01:25:29,700
Adam Curry: In fact, we had a
big argument after this

1464
01:25:29,700 --> 01:25:32,400
interview, because you said it
was a horrible interview. And

1465
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,060
they didn't mention Oh, my God,
we had a real argue I was really

1466
01:25:36,300 --> 01:25:38,250
John C Dvorak: well, yeah, you
got all bent out of shape. When

1467
01:25:38,250 --> 01:25:39,780
it was my commentary, you said

1468
01:25:39,780 --> 01:25:42,390
Adam Curry: that it was it was a
horrible interview. And I did

1469
01:25:42,390 --> 01:25:45,900
not mention no agenda once and I
was bad. And I will

1470
01:25:45,900 --> 01:25:48,300
John C Dvorak: say to me, yes.
Not mentioning no agenda is a

1471
01:25:48,300 --> 01:25:49,530
horrible interview period.

1472
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,440
Adam Curry: Right. But it was
the first moment that that you

1473
01:25:52,440 --> 01:25:54,960
really hurt me. And then I said
some really hurtful things to

1474
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,470
you. And it was it was not a
great moment for Adam. But also

1475
01:25:58,470 --> 01:26:01,620
you were total dick. So and but
then after that I am a total

1476
01:26:01,620 --> 01:26:03,810
dead. That's just what I
realized. That was the moment

1477
01:26:03,810 --> 01:26:05,010
I'm like, Oh, okay.

1478
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,040
John C Dvorak: No, go on. Okay.

1479
01:26:08,730 --> 01:26:16,770
Adam Curry: Kara. Tito's even
doing this now. Anyway, so like

1480
01:26:16,770 --> 01:26:21,390
a week later, D Snyder calls me.
Hey, Adam. Hey, man. Wow. You

1481
01:26:21,390 --> 01:26:24,720
know, it's great. By here. John,
was Howard and Howard bibble of

1482
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,170
the Howard. And Sal does
podcasting. Like God I could

1483
01:26:28,170 --> 01:26:31,170
tell me about. So I say yeah,
man. Do we have this value for

1484
01:26:31,170 --> 01:26:33,660
value model? Yeah, but what
about the money? Can you pay me

1485
01:26:33,660 --> 01:26:36,600
to do a podcast? I'm a great
podcaster I can be really good.

1486
01:26:36,660 --> 01:26:39,630
When I'm on Howard. I'm killing
it. I always kill it. And who is

1487
01:26:39,630 --> 01:26:44,970
this? Dee Snider from Twisted
Sister. Delete guy, the glam guy

1488
01:26:44,970 --> 01:26:49,590
the you know the glamour guy.
Yeah, and he's calling me and

1489
01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:53,250
he's like, he just he smells
money. He's a he's a money

1490
01:26:53,250 --> 01:26:57,390
whore. Hey, man. Oh yeah, I'm
always on Howard but I'm I kill

1491
01:26:57,390 --> 01:26:59,910
what I'm I can do a better job
than how I can do great show

1492
01:26:59,910 --> 01:27:01,920
better than Howard. Howard
Howard. Howard. Howard. I'm

1493
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,790
always on Howard. Howard loves
me. I'm great that I said no.

1494
01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:09,720
You know, just for Howard the
money you're not Howard doll.

1495
01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:10,920
Come on, come on,

1496
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,940
John C Dvorak: Howard. And so it
was really if you're not Howard.

1497
01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:18,750
That's what I said. Yeah, well,
that's what you Yeah, well, it's

1498
01:27:18,750 --> 01:27:19,020
like,

1499
01:27:19,469 --> 01:27:22,649
Adam Curry: well, it anyway, I
was I was like Dee Snider is a

1500
01:27:22,649 --> 01:27:25,289
dick is what I thought. That's
what I recall from this

1501
01:27:25,289 --> 01:27:30,629
conversation, but a dick. So a
few weeks ago, when more of the

1502
01:27:30,659 --> 01:27:34,229
oh, here comes a euphemism, or
not even a euphemism, anti trans

1503
01:27:34,229 --> 01:27:41,249
legislation. Meaning Tennessee
doesn't want kids to be at drag

1504
01:27:41,249 --> 01:27:45,179
shows in public places, you
know, minors now it seems like a

1505
01:27:45,179 --> 01:27:48,809
normal idea. But that is now
anti trans legislation. They

1506
01:27:48,809 --> 01:27:51,299
want to get rid of us. They want
to wipe us from the earth like

1507
01:27:51,299 --> 01:27:54,479
the Jews. They did doing the
same thing to us they did to the

1508
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:59,129
gays. This is all over the news.
And he comes out and he says,

1509
01:27:59,909 --> 01:28:03,599
you know, this is crazy, this
anti trans legislation because I

1510
01:28:03,599 --> 01:28:07,589
can't even do my show in
Tennessee because it can be seen

1511
01:28:07,589 --> 01:28:11,549
as a drag show because you know,
he dresses up puts on the purple

1512
01:28:11,579 --> 01:28:17,069
eyeshadow. Fingernails painted.
He's got the high heels on it.

1513
01:28:17,069 --> 01:28:21,059
You know, he has one song. It's
like watching the freak show is

1514
01:28:21,059 --> 01:28:24,719
like Okay, so he's trying to
he's trying to jump because this

1515
01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:28,709
is what he is. Hey, man. I'm as
good as Howard. Hey, man, I'm as

1516
01:28:28,709 --> 01:28:32,129
good as all the trends shows.
I'll be great at a drag show.

1517
01:28:32,129 --> 01:28:32,639
I'm great.

1518
01:28:34,530 --> 01:28:35,340
John C Dvorak: God,

1519
01:28:35,730 --> 01:28:37,350
Adam Curry: you're so you
understand. You're like this

1520
01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:38,790
Unknown: guy. No, I

1521
01:28:38,790 --> 01:28:42,270
Adam Curry: don't. But you made
it clear. But you understand

1522
01:28:42,270 --> 01:28:45,450
what he's doing is he's trying.
He's trying to set himself up

1523
01:28:45,450 --> 01:28:49,500
with a popular with the popular
movement. Jumping on the band is

1524
01:28:49,500 --> 01:28:53,640
called bandwagon bag bandwagon.
Now remember, he has

1525
01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:55,440
John C Dvorak: the other the
other guy that you mentioned

1526
01:28:55,440 --> 01:29:00,690
earlier that had the commentary
on Twitter, when he finished it

1527
01:29:00,690 --> 01:29:04,320
off by saying it's a fad of this
fad thing? And I think that's

1528
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,870
correct. I think this is a fad
and they will come and go.

1529
01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:11,549
Adam Curry: Which is exactly why
a D Schneider jumps on the fad.

1530
01:29:11,909 --> 01:29:15,599
Like oh, oh is a fad. I can get
in on by the way. I've got a

1531
01:29:15,599 --> 01:29:19,109
great song for the trans
community. We're not gonna take

1532
01:29:19,109 --> 01:29:24,659
it. I would like to say one of
the best glam rock songs ever no

1533
01:29:24,659 --> 01:29:31,379
doubt about it. Great song. was
now 40 years of children have

1534
01:29:31,709 --> 01:29:35,369
used this as their rebellion
song. Nothing wrong with that,

1535
01:29:35,429 --> 01:29:38,309
but that's what you got, bro.
That's all you got. And now

1536
01:29:38,309 --> 01:29:41,699
you're jumping on on the trans
band the trans fat bank

1537
01:29:41,699 --> 01:29:48,059
bandwagon. But then all the kid
all the rock guys are going Hey,

1538
01:29:48,809 --> 01:29:56,039
hey, Dee Snider? No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, we're not on board

1539
01:29:56,039 --> 01:29:59,219
with that. We're gonna Bud Light
your ass man. We don't like

1540
01:29:59,219 --> 01:30:03,269
this. No. No, you just you could
have that song, we'll go we'll

1541
01:30:03,269 --> 01:30:06,359
rock out to you. But we don't
we're not on board with the

1542
01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:11,099
trans stuff. Not the way it's
being portrayed. So he then

1543
01:30:11,969 --> 01:30:16,919
idiot, he, oh, I've got to
adjust everything. Um, what am I

1544
01:30:16,919 --> 01:30:23,519
gonna do? So he then tweets
something to Paul Stanley. And

1545
01:30:23,519 --> 01:30:27,899
this is now the subject of some
great controversy. This is local

1546
01:30:27,899 --> 01:30:29,369
news from San Francisco.

1547
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,850
Unknown: San Francisco pride is
distancing itself from twisted

1548
01:30:32,850 --> 01:30:37,080
sisters D Snyder, after the
singer defended anti trans

1549
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:40,260
tweets made by former kissing or
Paul Stanley.

1550
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,900
Adam Curry: I love that this
report, by the way is going to

1551
01:30:42,900 --> 01:30:46,470
be my evergreen, nothing like
this effeminate gay guy doing

1552
01:30:46,470 --> 01:30:50,250
this report about these two old
rock guys, and this is this is

1553
01:30:50,250 --> 01:30:52,110
peak trans bullshit.

1554
01:30:52,590 --> 01:30:54,450
Unknown: This is a bit
confusing, but let me start with

1555
01:30:54,450 --> 01:30:58,560
Stanley's tweet, which was sent
on Sunday, and in a nutshell, It

1556
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,230
criticizes parents who accept
their children who are

1557
01:31:01,230 --> 01:31:04,860
questioning their gender
identities. So here's what

1558
01:31:04,860 --> 01:31:07,980
happened with Schneider.
Schneider saw this tweet

1559
01:31:08,010 --> 01:31:12,120
retweeted it and added this. You
know what, there was a time

1560
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:16,290
where I felt pretty too glad my
parents didn't jump to any rash

1561
01:31:16,290 --> 01:31:19,590
conclusions. Well said Paul
Stanley.

1562
01:31:19,980 --> 01:31:22,440
Adam Curry: So are you still
with me? You still wouldn't know

1563
01:31:22,440 --> 01:31:24,060
what's going on here. And this
saga

1564
01:31:25,470 --> 01:31:27,540
John C Dvorak: was getting
funny. So

1565
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,740
Adam Curry: show now so now
pride San Francisco is mad.

1566
01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:35,640
They're mad. And there's a
reason for it. It was all secret

1567
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,880
we didn't know this was
happening behind the scenes. But

1568
01:31:38,970 --> 01:31:43,110
Indy Snyder's infinite wisdom
and his never ending quest to

1569
01:31:43,110 --> 01:31:47,670
jump on the latest fad, whether
it's podcasting or pro trans or

1570
01:31:47,670 --> 01:31:54,060
anti trans pee now screwed up so
bad that the Trans Pride

1571
01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:55,830
community is mad.

1572
01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:58,770
Unknown: And here's where pride
comes into this conversation.

1573
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:01,890
Pride had been set to announce
Twisted Sister song we're not

1574
01:32:01,890 --> 01:32:05,970
going to take it as the official
NFM of pride 2023

1575
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:10,290
Adam Curry: So this is money in
the bank for D to have the whole

1576
01:32:10,290 --> 01:32:15,510
pride community adopting we're
not going to take it this would

1577
01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:21,150
blow life into that song. This
is another $100,000 A year Easy.

1578
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:27,480
Easy because he wrote it he owns
it this is his This is his his

1579
01:32:27,480 --> 01:32:31,740
moneymaker shake that
moneymaker. But he pissed off

1580
01:32:31,740 --> 01:32:32,880
the wrong people.

1581
01:32:33,180 --> 01:32:34,170
Unknown: The wrong people.

1582
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,380
Joining us now with the latest
on this saga is Suzanne for the

1583
01:32:37,380 --> 01:32:39,540
executive director of SF pride.
Hi, Susan.

1584
01:32:40,350 --> 01:32:45,180
Adam Curry: I ready for Suzanne.
No.

1585
01:32:45,900 --> 01:32:46,860
Unknown: Good morning, Reggie.

1586
01:32:47,250 --> 01:32:51,330
So you all disclosure here. You
are ready to roll out with the

1587
01:32:51,330 --> 01:32:55,590
Snyder interviews with the
media. It was under embargo. But

1588
01:32:55,590 --> 01:32:58,890
in a few days, you are going to
announce this partnership with D

1589
01:32:58,890 --> 01:33:03,120
Schneider and with this song. So
what was your reaction when you

1590
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,530
saw this tweet?

1591
01:33:04,590 --> 01:33:07,680
Adam Curry: So I'm just gonna be
brutally honest here. Just

1592
01:33:07,710 --> 01:33:10,650
because you don't have video.
This is this is me. He may have

1593
01:33:10,650 --> 01:33:15,090
transitioned fully, but this is
a dude. Sharon, Rachel, whatever

1594
01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:19,500
his name is, and any of the
mannerisms. It's not just it's a

1595
01:33:19,500 --> 01:33:22,740
dude. It could be in Twisted
Sister. So the whole thing is

1596
01:33:22,740 --> 01:33:26,820
just blow my mind now. But the
business of it is this really

1597
01:33:26,820 --> 01:33:31,410
has screw Dee Snider has screwed
himself so badly with this.

1598
01:33:31,500 --> 01:33:35,040
Unknown: I was made me sick. I
mean, we were just I mean, we

1599
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:38,250
were on the cusp of making this
announcement on D. Schneider was

1600
01:33:38,250 --> 01:33:43,050
going to appear on the mainstage
at SF pride and he was going to

1601
01:33:43,050 --> 01:33:46,860
be in the in the parade as a
celebrity Grand Marshal. And of

1602
01:33:46,860 --> 01:33:51,210
course we cannot. We cannot
stand by his statements. We have

1603
01:33:51,210 --> 01:33:54,990
to stand up and say that was
wrong and we can't be had to end

1604
01:33:54,990 --> 01:33:56,190
our association with him.

1605
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:01,050
How did this begin to do
Schneider approach you and pride

1606
01:34:01,110 --> 01:34:02,460
and offer the song?

1607
01:34:02,820 --> 01:34:05,910
Well, we'd been looking for a
way to stand up to all this hate

1608
01:34:05,940 --> 01:34:08,910
out in the country, the anti
trans legislation, the anti

1609
01:34:08,910 --> 01:34:09,960
queer legislation

1610
01:34:09,990 --> 01:34:13,110
Adam Curry: and anti queer
legislation. This is new.

1611
01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:16,680
John C Dvorak: What specific
anti queer knowledge?

1612
01:34:16,710 --> 01:34:18,390
Adam Curry: I don't even know
what what it is. We can't even

1613
01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:23,850
define what is it? I don't know.
I don't know. It's I don't know.

1614
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,160
Unknown: Well, we've been
looking for a way to stand up to

1615
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,950
all this hate out in the
country, the anti trans

1616
01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:32,340
legislation, the anti queer
legislation, and we were looking

1617
01:34:32,340 --> 01:34:36,450
for a slogan and our PR team, I
said, this is what we need to

1618
01:34:36,450 --> 01:34:38,610
say. And they said, Well, why
don't we just say we're not

1619
01:34:38,610 --> 01:34:41,880
going to take it and that
started the process. And we did

1620
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,750
reach out to their people. And D
was great. He called me and

1621
01:34:45,750 --> 01:34:48,690
said, Hey, you can use this
song. That's what this song

1622
01:34:48,690 --> 01:34:52,770
should stand for. And then of
course, he preempted that with

1623
01:34:52,770 --> 01:34:54,840
his statements supporting Paul
Stanley.

1624
01:34:55,110 --> 01:34:58,080
Have you talked to D since this
tweet came out?

1625
01:34:58,530 --> 01:35:00,450
I did. I had a painful
discussion. sitting with him

1626
01:35:00,450 --> 01:35:05,430
yesterday and fall. I think he
realizes that he was wrong. He

1627
01:35:05,430 --> 01:35:09,390
thought he was taking a moderate
stance when it when it comes to

1628
01:35:09,390 --> 01:35:12,330
self identification for trans
people. There's no moderate

1629
01:35:12,330 --> 01:35:16,110
stance we need to believe our
trans kids when they tell us

1630
01:35:16,140 --> 01:35:17,190
about their gender.

1631
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:21,030
Adam Curry: Oh, there it is. We
need to believe our trans kids

1632
01:35:21,030 --> 01:35:24,180
when they tell us about our
gender. Okay, let's hear from

1633
01:35:24,180 --> 01:35:27,510
one of the trans kids Katie
Lennon. And Katie Lennon tells

1634
01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:28,200
her story.

1635
01:35:28,260 --> 01:35:30,720
Unknown: It's like many children
and teens today I identified

1636
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,840
myself as transgender for years.
And when I started to feel

1637
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,330
confused and ashamed about my
developing body, I asked

1638
01:35:36,330 --> 01:35:39,330
everyone in my life to call me
by a new name, and use male

1639
01:35:39,330 --> 01:35:42,300
pronouns to refer to me. So in
other words, I went through a

1640
01:35:42,300 --> 01:35:46,050
social transition from female to
male, everyone in my life

1641
01:35:46,050 --> 01:35:48,450
immediately affirmed my new
identity either out of full

1642
01:35:48,450 --> 01:35:50,940
support for it or just to stay
neutral and not cause any

1643
01:35:50,940 --> 01:35:53,880
issues. But the constant
affirmation both active and

1644
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,600
passive, solidified me and my
transgender identity, no one

1645
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,880
meant to lock me into an
identity that would later leave

1646
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:02,670
me broken or shamed and more
confused than before. They were

1647
01:36:02,670 --> 01:36:06,180
really all just being nice. But
the social transition eventually

1648
01:36:06,180 --> 01:36:09,480
wasn't enough. And I soon felt I
needed to take testosterone. And

1649
01:36:09,480 --> 01:36:12,450
when that wasn't enough, I had a
double mastectomy. And when that

1650
01:36:12,450 --> 01:36:14,910
still wasn't enough, I had a
total hysterectomy, including

1651
01:36:14,910 --> 01:36:18,540
the removal of my uterus,
cervix, fallopian tubes and both

1652
01:36:18,540 --> 01:36:21,690
ovaries. There's no point of
contentment during a gender

1653
01:36:21,690 --> 01:36:24,450
transition. We get fleeting
moments of euphoria, but

1654
01:36:24,450 --> 01:36:27,390
ultimately one step leads
straight into the next. And I

1655
01:36:27,390 --> 01:36:29,730
thought that in the end, I could
really become a man but all I

1656
01:36:29,730 --> 01:36:32,700
became was a mutilated and
abused version of my old self.

1657
01:36:33,390 --> 01:36:36,180
social transition is a big deal.
And we're lying when we say that

1658
01:36:36,180 --> 01:36:39,450
any of this is reversible. This
is a big decision with lifelong

1659
01:36:39,450 --> 01:36:41,700
consequences. And New Hampshire
doesn't even require that

1660
01:36:41,700 --> 01:36:44,910
parents be involved. If the
roles of mother and father don't

1661
01:36:44,910 --> 01:36:47,700
include authority over the
emotional, social and physical

1662
01:36:47,700 --> 01:36:50,790
future of their children, the
roles no longer mean anything.

1663
01:36:51,330 --> 01:36:53,610
Like me, transgender,
identifying youth have a high

1664
01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:56,820
risk for depression. The Trevor
Project, which is an LGBT

1665
01:36:56,820 --> 01:37:01,380
advocacy group, reports that 45%
of LGBT teens have seriously

1666
01:37:01,380 --> 01:37:05,100
considered attempting suicide in
the past year. More than half of

1667
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:08,340
that number is transgender,
identifying youth, teachers and

1668
01:37:08,340 --> 01:37:11,250
school administrators are
mandated reporters, if a child

1669
01:37:11,250 --> 01:37:14,280
is suspected to be four times
more likely to attempt suicide

1670
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,830
than the other students his age,
his parents have a right to

1671
01:37:16,830 --> 01:37:17,160
know.

1672
01:37:17,700 --> 01:37:19,860
Adam Curry: So this is all
coming from the schools. We've

1673
01:37:19,860 --> 01:37:22,650
discussed this. And there's a
slogan that I learned the other

1674
01:37:22,650 --> 01:37:25,770
day when the campus when the
world, that's what's going on

1675
01:37:25,770 --> 01:37:30,930
here. And even even Bill Maher
is now seeing this for what it

1676
01:37:30,930 --> 01:37:34,530
is what we identified correctly,
when we first went down this

1677
01:37:34,530 --> 01:37:40,710
road of what is happening with
transgender activism and removal

1678
01:37:40,710 --> 01:37:45,510
of parents rights, allowing
children to be literally

1679
01:37:45,510 --> 01:37:49,470
captured. I have just story
makers that captured by the

1680
01:37:49,470 --> 01:37:52,860
state captured by the law. I'll
read a little bit of this, one

1681
01:37:52,860 --> 01:37:56,340
of our producers. He's from
Colorado, I think you you

1682
01:37:56,340 --> 01:37:58,860
probably saw this note as well.
I've been below the radar for

1683
01:37:58,860 --> 01:38:01,290
past three plus years because
I've been living the COVID Trans

1684
01:38:01,290 --> 01:38:04,230
Maoist nightmare with my
daughter, I don't even know

1685
01:38:04,260 --> 01:38:07,470
where to start. And if I did, my
note will be too long for you to

1686
01:38:07,470 --> 01:38:10,470
even read and you guys know how
much I can write. And my efforts

1687
01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:13,080
to save my daughter and kids
like her. I've been exposed to

1688
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,540
human trafficking, illegal drug
dealers, mental health

1689
01:38:15,540 --> 01:38:18,720
institutions, social services,
law enforcement, district

1690
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,390
attorneys, politicians, all the
way to Governor's School

1691
01:38:21,390 --> 01:38:24,420
Administrators, mental health
and professionals and doctors

1692
01:38:24,420 --> 01:38:27,420
and psychiatrists, I can truly
say all these groups with the

1693
01:38:27,420 --> 01:38:30,750
exception of law enforcement are
in on the CO opting our kids

1694
01:38:30,750 --> 01:38:33,270
from their parents. Some are
useful idiots for the

1695
01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:36,240
politicians and bureaucrats
pushing their mouse agenda, but

1696
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:38,580
it's the ones that are aware of
what they're doing that are

1697
01:38:38,580 --> 01:38:42,300
truly despicable. So I'm gonna
go to his quick list here. That

1698
01:38:42,300 --> 01:38:44,970
explains the process that
happened to his daughter who was

1699
01:38:44,970 --> 01:38:48,480
able to save but it's it's a
horrible story. I put it on the

1700
01:38:48,480 --> 01:38:50,520
show notes. I've taken out
everybody's names and these

1701
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:56,490
notes. Here's here's the process
that he calls legalizing state

1702
01:38:56,490 --> 01:38:59,970
sponsored genital mutilation.
One higher radical teachers for

1703
01:38:59,970 --> 01:39:04,320
indoctrination, reduce age of
Colorado, reduce age of consent

1704
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:08,580
for medical care, like abortions
to 15 without parental consent.

1705
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,970
allow children to consent for
medical care at 12. Without

1706
01:39:11,970 --> 01:39:15,120
parent knowledge or consent
passed laws requiring state

1707
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:19,050
employees including teachers to
use any bizarre pronoun, offer

1708
01:39:19,050 --> 01:39:21,600
medical and mental health care
in schools without parental

1709
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:25,530
consent. Governor encourages
kids to inject mRNA poison in

1710
01:39:25,530 --> 01:39:29,160
their bodies without parental
consent, require mental health

1711
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,460
assessment for kids 12 and
older, overriding parental

1712
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:36,750
objections and not informing
parents of any care after birth

1713
01:39:36,750 --> 01:39:40,320
abortions for kids as young as
12 without parental consent also

1714
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:43,710
come to Colorado and will abort
your baby genital mutilation and

1715
01:39:43,710 --> 01:39:46,170
puberty blockers for kids
without parental consent in

1716
01:39:46,170 --> 01:39:49,770
violation of a UN resolution.
exposing yourself to a minor is

1717
01:39:49,770 --> 01:39:53,250
now just a ticket not passed yet
is lowering the age of consent

1718
01:39:53,250 --> 01:39:57,660
for sexual contact to 11
including with adults yes Pete

1719
01:39:57,660 --> 01:40:02,640
of pedophilia that he goes on
and on And on on. And he he

1720
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:06,960
saved his daughter, but it's a
harrowing, harrowing story. And

1721
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:11,580
I'm just getting, again, email
after email from parents and no

1722
01:40:11,580 --> 01:40:14,250
agenda nation who have been
exposed to this and are trying

1723
01:40:14,250 --> 01:40:17,610
to protect their kids. So what
is it on one hand? Yes, it is

1724
01:40:17,610 --> 01:40:21,690
exactly what we've discussed.
The Bill Maher said, which is

1725
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:22,440
Maoism.

1726
01:40:22,620 --> 01:40:25,350
Unknown: Yesterday, I asked chat
and GPT Are there any

1727
01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:28,710
similarities between today's
woke revolution and Chairman

1728
01:40:28,710 --> 01:40:32,700
Mao's cultural revolution of the
1960s? And it wrote back how

1729
01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:41,010
long do you have? Because,
again, in China, we saw how a

1730
01:40:41,010 --> 01:40:45,510
revolutionary thought he could
do a page one rewrite of humans

1731
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:51,540
now ordered his citizens to
throw off the four olds, old

1732
01:40:51,540 --> 01:40:56,970
thinking old culture, old
customs and old habits. So your

1733
01:40:56,970 --> 01:41:00,690
whole life went in the garbage
overnight, no biggie. And those

1734
01:41:00,690 --> 01:41:05,010
who resisted, were attacked by
an army of purifiers called the

1735
01:41:05,010 --> 01:41:09,750
Red Guard who went around the
country putting dunce caps on

1736
01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:13,500
people. Yeah, who didn't take to
being a new kind of mortal

1737
01:41:13,500 --> 01:41:17,550
being. A lot of pointing and
shaming went on. Oh, and about a

1738
01:41:17,550 --> 01:41:22,050
million dead. And the only way
to survive was to plead insanity

1739
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,260
for the crime of being
insufficiently radical then

1740
01:41:25,260 --> 01:41:28,500
apologize and thank the state
and of course submit to re

1741
01:41:28,500 --> 01:41:32,730
education or as we call it here
in America freshman orientation.

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01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,270
Adam Curry: So even Bill Maher
sees what's going on? And yes,

1743
01:41:39,270 --> 01:41:44,010
it is. It is to a great degree
political as our parent their

1744
01:41:44,010 --> 01:41:49,950
points out that the politicians
anything, anything to make the

1745
01:41:49,950 --> 01:41:55,560
Republicans look the worst.
Anything call them Christian.

1746
01:41:56,940 --> 01:42:01,950
Was it. Christian radicals? No,
not radicals? No, it was not

1747
01:42:04,110 --> 01:42:09,090
fascist, Christian fascist. No
anti trans legislation. They

1748
01:42:09,090 --> 01:42:12,030
hate children, because this is
gender affirming care. Well, you

1749
01:42:12,030 --> 01:42:15,870
just heard from that young girl
what gender affirming care is,

1750
01:42:15,870 --> 01:42:20,520
but now we go to Dr. Meg Meeker
's podcast just to you one clip

1751
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:25,950
from from her. And she is
talking to Irene Erickson. And

1752
01:42:25,950 --> 01:42:28,950
this is, as she asked a
question, which I think is a

1753
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:33,330
pretty good one. Why is this
really happening in America? As

1754
01:42:33,330 --> 01:42:36,750
we know, this is being stopped
in other countries,

1755
01:42:36,990 --> 01:42:39,930
specifically, the countries
where it started, which was the

1756
01:42:39,930 --> 01:42:44,190
Netherlands but Sweden, France,
the UK? So what is going on? Why

1757
01:42:44,190 --> 01:42:46,980
is this happening to this degree
in the United States,

1758
01:42:47,009 --> 01:42:49,739
Unknown: honestly, and truly,
I've been practicing for 30 some

1759
01:42:49,739 --> 01:42:57,689
years. And I think maybe in 25
years, I saw one genuine

1760
01:42:57,749 --> 01:43:02,579
transgender child, but something
happened in the US and there was

1761
01:43:02,609 --> 01:43:06,089
an explosion, and we'll talk
about that a little bit later.

1762
01:43:06,539 --> 01:43:09,869
Why does the US approach it
differently than other

1763
01:43:09,869 --> 01:43:10,709
countries?

1764
01:43:11,220 --> 01:43:14,580
That's a great question. It's a
great question.

1765
01:43:14,820 --> 01:43:16,980
Adam Curry: And in fact, may
actually be the only great

1766
01:43:16,980 --> 01:43:18,060
question that

1767
01:43:18,570 --> 01:43:22,050
Unknown: is political is my
observation. It's not based on

1768
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the on the science, in fact that
you know that the United Kingdom

1769
01:43:26,010 --> 01:43:30,390
had the largest pediatric gender
clinic in the world, the

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01:43:30,390 --> 01:43:35,640
Tavistock clinic, and they
commissioned an independent

1771
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:39,480
review of the research evidence
about this kind of protocol that

1772
01:43:39,480 --> 01:43:44,760
I just described, and what were
the effects? And what was the

1773
01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:48,450
evidence, how good was the
research evidence in terms of

1774
01:43:48,450 --> 01:43:51,720
quality, and based on their
review, just in the last two

1775
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:57,480
months, they have done a 180
degree, turn around, they've

1776
01:43:57,480 --> 01:44:01,680
closed that clinic, and they
have said, we do not recommend

1777
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,380
this is the National Health
Service in Great Britain, we do

1778
01:44:04,380 --> 01:44:08,880
not recommend social transition
for children and we are not

1779
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:12,630
going to prescribe puberty
blockers or cross sex hormones,

1780
01:44:13,020 --> 01:44:18,120
or surgery for minors, unless
they are part of a study we have

1781
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:23,220
approved that is set up to
evaluate the effects. And this

1782
01:44:23,220 --> 01:44:28,950
same kind of a cautionary
approach is seen in Sweden. Just

1783
01:44:28,950 --> 01:44:33,690
to quote you what the Swedish
National Board of Health says,

1784
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:37,320
For adolescents the risks of
puberty suppressing treatment

1785
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,200
and gender affirming hormonal
treatments are currently

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01:44:40,230 --> 01:44:44,580
outweigh the possible benefits
based on continued lack of

1787
01:44:44,580 --> 01:44:48,780
reliable scientific evidence
concerning the efficacy and the

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01:44:48,780 --> 01:44:53,640
safety of both treatments. So
the US is really out of step now

1789
01:44:53,820 --> 01:44:58,830
with what's happening
internationally. And, you know,

1790
01:44:59,190 --> 01:45:01,380
it does beg the question of why.

1791
01:45:01,950 --> 01:45:04,590
Adam Curry: So she says it's
political. And of course it is.

1792
01:45:04,590 --> 01:45:08,280
But it's the schools where this
is all starting. And I took a

1793
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,920
deep dive because I want to know
about the studies because

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01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:15,030
everywhere I read from the New
York Times, via gender affirming

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01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:21,120
medical care has been proven,
proven to be very beneficial. So

1796
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:26,640
I found an article from
Psychology Today because it is

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01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,700
the therapist, it's the
therapists who are reeling these

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01:45:29,700 --> 01:45:34,830
children in, if they don't care
therapist, and this is it. This

1799
01:45:34,830 --> 01:45:37,710
is from the New York Times
pointed to from the New York

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01:45:37,710 --> 01:45:41,130
Times as the evidence for trans
youth gender affirming medical

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01:45:41,130 --> 01:45:46,890
care. Research suggests gender
affirming medical care results

1802
01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:50,910
in better mental health 16
studies to date have been

1803
01:45:50,910 --> 01:45:54,720
examined the examining the
impact of gender affirming

1804
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:58,830
medical care for transgender
youth, existing evidence

1805
01:45:58,860 --> 01:46:02,670
suggests that gender affirming
medical care results in

1806
01:46:02,670 --> 01:46:07,560
favorable mental health
outcomes. All all major medical

1807
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:12,330
organizations oppose legislation
that would ban gender affirming

1808
01:46:12,330 --> 01:46:17,970
medical care for chant
transgender adolescence. John,

1809
01:46:18,540 --> 01:46:23,730
every single one of these
studies, is from 2020. Every

1810
01:46:23,730 --> 01:46:30,510
single one, and all of them with
55 people, 60 people, they're

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01:46:30,510 --> 01:46:36,000
all from 2020, all during the
lockdown, not a single one. Has

1812
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:41,640
any has been studied anything
earlier than 2020. This and with

1813
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:47,340
this, they say Oh, well, but you
know, that's enough. One will

1814
01:46:47,340 --> 01:46:50,970
notice this article says there
have not been any randomized

1815
01:46:50,970 --> 01:46:55,290
controlled trials. Oh, but it
still sounds like it's a valid

1816
01:46:55,290 --> 01:46:59,520
trial. There's a general
consensus in the field that such

1817
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:03,420
a trial would be unethical given
the body of literature we have

1818
01:47:03,420 --> 01:47:07,680
so far indicating that those in
the control group will be likely

1819
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,250
to suffer adverse mental health
outcomes compared to those

1820
01:47:11,250 --> 01:47:15,180
randomized to the treatment
groups. For this reason, it

1821
01:47:15,180 --> 01:47:18,060
appears that no institutional
review board would approve a

1822
01:47:18,060 --> 01:47:21,540
randomized controlled trial at
this time, under the principle

1823
01:47:21,540 --> 01:47:27,600
of equipoise equipoise to which
some bioethicists refer. I don't

1824
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,300
know what that all means, but it
seems to me like these trials

1825
01:47:30,300 --> 01:47:34,230
are bull. In summary, I'd

1826
01:47:34,230 --> 01:47:36,900
John C Dvorak: have to look at
the trials and who paid for him

1827
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:41,280
to get a real handle on it, I
believe.

1828
01:47:43,980 --> 01:47:48,210
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, I did not
I did not go that deep. But if

1829
01:47:48,210 --> 01:47:56,070
you look at the the synopsis
here a lot of them are Dutch

1830
01:47:56,100 --> 01:47:58,650
puberty suppression and
adolescents with gender identity

1831
01:47:58,650 --> 01:48:01,710
disorder as prospect follow up
study, Journal of Sexual

1832
01:48:01,710 --> 01:48:07,080
Medicine, okay, by on what that
is. Young adults, psychological

1833
01:48:07,110 --> 01:48:09,210
outcome after puberty,
suppression and gender

1834
01:48:09,210 --> 01:48:15,540
reassignment, pediatrics, psycho
psychological support, puberty

1835
01:48:15,540 --> 01:48:18,660
suppression, and psycho psycho
social functioning in

1836
01:48:18,660 --> 01:48:23,640
adolescence. It's all Journal of
Sexual Medicine. So,

1837
01:48:23,700 --> 01:48:25,920
John C Dvorak: you know, but all
in is the exact same journal.

1838
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:27,660
There's no outside journals.

1839
01:48:27,870 --> 01:48:30,300
Adam Curry: There. Here's the
Nordic Journal of Psychiatry,

1840
01:48:30,300 --> 01:48:33,420
it's all psychological. They're
not. That doesn't seem to even

1841
01:48:33,420 --> 01:48:40,170
be medical trials. It's all
about the psychology. But that's

1842
01:48:40,170 --> 01:48:42,960
what the New York Times points
to is proof that this stuff

1843
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:47,430
works. And it's great. So I'm
very, very skeptical,

1844
01:48:47,460 --> 01:48:50,790
particularly because if not,
we've there had been people

1845
01:48:50,790 --> 01:48:53,280
transitioning having what used
to be called a sex change

1846
01:48:53,280 --> 01:49:00,240
operation for decades. But no,
none of that seems to be very

1847
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:05,400
important. And then we have the
media. We have the media, and I

1848
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:08,100
played I got a great
deconstruction from one of our

1849
01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:12,960
producers. I want to play this
Kara Swisher clip again. Because

1850
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,780
you know, she's a lesbian. So
you know, she's she's an expert

1851
01:49:15,780 --> 01:49:18,660
on all things. And of course,
she takes us all to the

1852
01:49:18,660 --> 01:49:21,240
political realm as well, just to
play replay this from the last

1853
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:22,290
show. And the other thing

1854
01:49:22,290 --> 01:49:25,800
Unknown: is, did he just I think
underestimated. Florida has a

1855
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:30,840
really robust and wonderful gay
community. And they drive a lot

1856
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:34,170
of business. There's, I mean,
there's whole parts. I've spent

1857
01:49:34,170 --> 01:49:37,320
a lot of time in Key West and
the gay community is thriving

1858
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:40,980
there and I just can't at some
point the demo and democracy

1859
01:49:40,980 --> 01:49:42,060
does kick in here.

1860
01:49:42,090 --> 01:49:45,150
One would assume but I'm
thinking of the why Mar Republic

1861
01:49:45,150 --> 01:49:47,910
where it was a huge Berlin gay
community and then they killed

1862
01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:51,030
them. So you know, I think it
could go a lot of terrible ways,

1863
01:49:51,030 --> 01:49:52,860
but I would agree this is dumb.
This is so

1864
01:49:53,070 --> 01:49:54,240
escalated fast.

1865
01:49:57,690 --> 01:50:00,360
Haven't you seen cabaret?
Haven't you'd seen it? Every

1866
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:01,410
Berlin stories.

1867
01:50:01,470 --> 01:50:05,970
Yeah, you're right. People think
it couldn't happen here. I can I

1868
01:50:05,970 --> 01:50:06,450
agree.

1869
01:50:06,810 --> 01:50:11,520
They can come at you. But I do
not think that that's where the

1870
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,190
country is in a different way
from much. We've have obviously

1871
01:50:14,190 --> 01:50:17,760
a much more vibrant democracy, a
much more diverse democracy than

1872
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,580
they hadn't Weimar Republic, and
they had all kinds of economic

1873
01:50:20,580 --> 01:50:23,700
issues, postwar, fall kinds of
differences, but they can come

1874
01:50:23,700 --> 01:50:26,730
at you. When I when I told you
they were going to come at 12th

1875
01:50:26,730 --> 01:50:29,700
graders, you'd said no, they're
not as young kids. And I was

1876
01:50:29,700 --> 01:50:32,940
like, no, they're not. It's
everybody they're trying to do

1877
01:50:32,940 --> 01:50:36,330
trying to win what they lost
back. And they will do they will

1878
01:50:36,330 --> 01:50:39,090
stop at nothing. They never go
away. They're like mold these

1879
01:50:39,090 --> 01:50:39,510
people.

1880
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:41,910
Adam Curry: So our producer
sends me this short note which I

1881
01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:45,300
wanted to share because I think
he did a much better job than we

1882
01:50:45,300 --> 01:50:48,780
did on deconstructing what this
woman said. I'm listening to the

1883
01:50:48,780 --> 01:50:51,450
podcast just heard the Swisher
Galloway clip and the psychology

1884
01:50:51,450 --> 01:50:54,480
of it disturbed me. First of
all, she mentioned the gay

1885
01:50:54,480 --> 01:50:57,840
community in Weimar, Germany was
thriving, and then they killed

1886
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:01,590
them. This is incorrect. The
Republic had laws against

1887
01:51:01,590 --> 01:51:04,290
homosexuality, but they were
rarely enforced, hence the

1888
01:51:04,290 --> 01:51:08,130
thriving community. It was the
Nazis who killed the gays

1889
01:51:08,130 --> 01:51:11,580
shortly after their rise to
power, not the why Mr. Republic.

1890
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:15,270
So the comparison to Florida is
actually very apt. Since the

1891
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:18,870
thriving community there is not
in danger from Florida, but from

1892
01:51:18,870 --> 01:51:22,470
the people trying to subvert
Florida. Moreover, she then went

1893
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:25,560
on to describe her political
opponents by saying they never

1894
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:29,700
go away. They're like mold of
these people. That is exactly

1895
01:51:29,700 --> 01:51:33,510
the way Hitler talked about his
victims. In his books and his

1896
01:51:33,510 --> 01:51:36,360
speeches, he always referred to
them as an infection or

1897
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,750
infestation that needed to be
cleansed. This woman is deeply

1898
01:51:39,750 --> 01:51:41,940
disturbed and should be
surrounded by trained

1899
01:51:41,940 --> 01:51:44,940
professionals with butterfly
nets before her career in art

1900
01:51:44,940 --> 01:51:45,690
fails.

1901
01:51:48,030 --> 01:51:49,890
A Jhansi Dvorak protege I'm
right had

1902
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:58,560
John C Dvorak: blaming me for
everything. So yes, yeah, good

1903
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:03,630
points is it's a that's a good
analysis. I agree with it.

1904
01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:08,130
Adam Curry: Then I have just a
few more follow ups here.

1905
01:52:08,130 --> 01:52:12,450
Because, you know, as we pointed
out, this also really does come

1906
01:52:12,450 --> 01:52:19,170
from during the lockdown when
kids were on screens, screen

1907
01:52:19,170 --> 01:52:22,980
screen screens. And this is
where they got subverted. They

1908
01:52:22,980 --> 01:52:27,270
got subverted by social media.
And they were they were booked.

1909
01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:29,820
Do you think the parents were
not feeling good in the

1910
01:52:29,820 --> 01:52:35,130
lockdown? No, everyone felt very
anxious. And then then they

1911
01:52:35,130 --> 01:52:38,160
didn't feel good. And teenage
girls already have problems with

1912
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:41,010
feeling good about themselves.
And they were subverted by it.

1913
01:52:41,580 --> 01:52:41,970
Unknown: Yes, I

1914
01:52:41,970 --> 01:52:44,520
John C Dvorak: want to ask you a
bit while you're out just before

1915
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:52,290
you do this. Because it comes to
mind. A rhetorical question. The

1916
01:52:52,290 --> 01:52:56,070
commentary about the kids on
screens during the lockdown and

1917
01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:59,160
not going to school, not going
to school, not going to class,

1918
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,920
not socializing. But they're
being on the screen all the

1919
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,770
time. They're on at home
homeschooling, they were getting

1920
01:53:04,770 --> 01:53:08,670
their lessons. They were getting
the teachers were there. They

1921
01:53:08,670 --> 01:53:11,520
were telling him to do this and
read this and do that and do

1922
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:16,440
this and that. And it turns out
that all you hear now is Oh,

1923
01:53:16,830 --> 01:53:22,590
because of that the kids are two
years behind. So in other words,

1924
01:53:23,130 --> 01:53:26,970
this screen time and all the
learning from home and all the

1925
01:53:26,970 --> 01:53:33,450
rest of it was useless. Then if
that's true, which is seems to

1926
01:53:33,450 --> 01:53:36,600
be that's what they're
complaining about, then why is

1927
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:43,110
working from home so good, boo.
It's not. It can't be not if you

1928
01:53:43,110 --> 01:53:45,480
base it on what happened during
that lockdown.

1929
01:53:46,740 --> 01:53:51,510
Adam Curry: We had. This was
last summer, one of the one of

1930
01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:54,900
the daughters was visiting and
she had some of her friends from

1931
01:53:54,900 --> 01:53:58,290
New York. They also were in
Austin for some reason. And

1932
01:53:58,290 --> 01:54:01,410
these, I think, like three guys,
probably two of them two or

1933
01:54:01,410 --> 01:54:03,900
three, or maybe all three gay, I
don't know. But they were like,

1934
01:54:03,900 --> 01:54:10,230
you know, lawyers. Like high end
like intellectual jobs, and they

1935
01:54:10,230 --> 01:54:13,260
came out and they're hanging out
in the pool. And they literally

1936
01:54:13,290 --> 01:54:16,350
would set their laptops up
because they were working from

1937
01:54:16,350 --> 01:54:19,020
home. They set up their laptops,
and they had all these little

1938
01:54:19,020 --> 01:54:21,420
programs that move the mouse to
make it look like they were

1939
01:54:21,420 --> 01:54:27,960
working. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Isn't
that cool? Oh, yeah, it's very

1940
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,360
fun, from time to time to go and
just even you know, do a little

1941
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:33,090
something open a document just
to make sure that look like

1942
01:54:33,090 --> 01:54:35,820
because you know, it's all
tracked by it. And we got a note

1943
01:54:35,820 --> 01:54:38,760
from Alex Jennison. Want to
follow up a couple items at the

1944
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:43,050
school I work at in New York,
New York State is ot jeep. Off

1945
01:54:43,050 --> 01:54:47,070
the Grid. Families of students
must pledge to limit smart

1946
01:54:47,070 --> 01:54:51,210
devices, time time spent on
them, etc. Many of our students

1947
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,240
even high school, this is
northern Academy. Many of our

1948
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:57,090
students even high schoolers
have zero access to social

1949
01:54:57,090 --> 01:55:00,780
media. We are even punishing to
limit laptops. pushing to limit

1950
01:55:00,780 --> 01:55:04,050
locked laptops in the classroom
and return to books and paper.

1951
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:07,500
Check us out at North
academy.org. In my five years

1952
01:55:07,500 --> 01:55:12,330
here we've had in total, one
suicide less than five students

1953
01:55:12,330 --> 01:55:17,460
medicated for add ADHD,
depression, etc. Zero students

1954
01:55:17,460 --> 01:55:23,430
on IEP plans. I don't know what
that what is IEP. All students

1955
01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:26,490
learn together, look it up, it's
probably for special ed, I look

1956
01:55:26,490 --> 01:55:29,880
it up, I look at it IEP plans,
all students learn together. And

1957
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:32,970
we do not discriminate based on
diagnosis or perceived

1958
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differences. Zero trans in
students, zero trans students.

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01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:40,650
John C Dvorak: If there's not
even come up in class ever. As

1960
01:55:40,650 --> 01:55:42,870
far as I know, we've had one
student who identified as

1961
01:55:42,870 --> 01:55:46,950
homosexual, again accepted but
not promoted. The individualized

1962
01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:49,860
education plan. There you go.
Being doctrine developed to

1963
01:55:49,860 --> 01:55:52,530
ensure a child who has a
disability identified under the

1964
01:55:52,530 --> 01:55:55,020
law and is attending an
Elementary Secondary of kids for

1965
01:55:55,050 --> 01:55:56,370
this for the disabled kids.

1966
01:55:56,610 --> 01:55:59,640
Adam Curry: We are a boarding
and day school, send your kids

1967
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,190
but really any parents who are
interested can reach out to me

1968
01:56:02,190 --> 01:56:07,740
on Mastodon and it's breakfasty
at no agenda social.com br A br

1969
01:56:07,740 --> 01:56:13,440
a HPHECY. Let's help save the
850,000 listeners in their

1970
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:16,080
children. I wholeheartedly
believe our schools here in New

1971
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,780
York can help change some of
these trends. So just so you

1972
01:56:18,780 --> 01:56:22,620
know, that by the way, it's
probably an Epoch Times NTD

1973
01:56:22,620 --> 01:56:27,690
related outfit, because they
know how bad it can be. This is

1974
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:31,050
so they have almost none of the
issues that we hear of that are

1975
01:56:31,050 --> 01:56:36,030
rampant without the screens.
This is without the screens. So

1976
01:56:36,060 --> 01:56:38,820
we have another email from
Mason, I heard the show want to

1977
01:56:38,820 --> 01:56:41,160
share my experience around
children's screens and phones.

1978
01:56:41,460 --> 01:56:44,370
My wife and I have a 20 month
old son who has kept almost

1979
01:56:44,370 --> 01:56:48,240
entirely screen free no children
shows no YouTube, no phones, no

1980
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,930
iPads. Only screen use would be
when we have a sports game on

1981
01:56:51,930 --> 01:56:54,900
but he isn't interested in that
20 month old, we've noticed that

1982
01:56:54,900 --> 01:56:57,450
he's less interested in our
phones and other toddlers we've

1983
01:56:57,450 --> 01:57:00,990
seen perhaps because he doesn't
know all the fun things a phone

1984
01:57:00,990 --> 01:57:04,260
can have. Having said that he is
still interested in our phones,

1985
01:57:04,260 --> 01:57:06,870
because we're interested because
we're interested in our phones,

1986
01:57:07,050 --> 01:57:10,500
he is clearly picking up on it.
Quick note on low screen kids,

1987
01:57:10,530 --> 01:57:13,800
almost everyone who meets our
son comments on his ability to

1988
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:17,490
play creatively with simple toys
by himself and his engagement

1989
01:57:17,490 --> 01:57:20,730
with us and other adults. It's
hard not to use screens as a

1990
01:57:20,730 --> 01:57:23,940
crutch with kids and it takes
purpose. But there are very real

1991
01:57:23,940 --> 01:57:27,690
benefits start showing up almost
immediately. And you're come

1992
01:57:27,690 --> 01:57:30,240
several weeks ago after seeing
him more and more interested in

1993
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:34,560
my phone, I switched to a light
phone to the light phone.com and

1994
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:38,430
put my iPhone in a drawer. I did
this both to unhook myself from

1995
01:57:38,430 --> 01:57:42,330
my device as well as to help my
son have a normal life abnormal

1996
01:57:42,330 --> 01:57:45,330
by today's standards. The
results have been immediate for

1997
01:57:45,330 --> 01:57:48,870
both of us, I'm less interested
in my phone, and he's not

1998
01:57:48,870 --> 01:57:52,710
interested at all, the phone has
a black and white E Ink screen

1999
01:57:52,710 --> 01:57:55,680
very limited functionality. So
there's no draw for me or for

2000
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,650
the child, I was anxious to
switch at first. But after

2001
01:57:58,650 --> 01:58:01,260
getting it up and running, I
felt immediately freed from it

2002
01:58:01,260 --> 01:58:04,620
all I share this because the
light phone might be a good tool

2003
01:58:04,620 --> 01:58:07,950
for others and get donation both
in curbing their own addictions

2004
01:58:07,950 --> 01:58:10,830
to these apps and for allowing
older kids to have the ability

2005
01:58:10,950 --> 01:58:14,190
to communicate without giving
them access to anything online.

2006
01:58:15,630 --> 01:58:18,360
So I ordered one, I ordered a
low light phone and when it

2007
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:21,090
comes in, I'll do a full review.
But I think we've talked about

2008
01:58:21,090 --> 01:58:25,650
it before and the OTG days. And
I'm thinking if you want to save

2009
01:58:25,650 --> 01:58:29,280
your child here, here, here's a
list of things that I would like

2010
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,970
to suggest you give to your
kids. I like phone too, because

2011
01:58:32,970 --> 01:58:36,480
you can call you can text and
it's not you know, punching in

2012
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:40,140
the number five times it has a
little actual keyboard. And

2013
01:58:40,140 --> 01:58:43,830
there's no no camera. It does
have directions, you can listen

2014
01:58:43,830 --> 01:58:48,780
to podcasts, and you can use it
as a hotspot. And with that give

2015
01:58:48,780 --> 01:58:52,680
your kid a laptop. Teach your
kid how to put Linux Mint on it

2016
01:58:52,710 --> 01:58:55,830
to the kid has an understanding
that you control the device does

2017
01:58:55,830 --> 01:58:59,820
not control you. Give your kid a
high quality standalone camera.

2018
01:58:59,820 --> 01:59:03,210
John, would you like to give
any? Any suggestions because you

2019
01:59:03,210 --> 01:59:04,890
you always use these cameras?

2020
01:59:05,850 --> 01:59:08,850
John C Dvorak: Well any camera
from Olympus I'd say would be a

2021
01:59:08,850 --> 01:59:12,360
good standalone camera little
ones. Or if you want to just you

2022
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:16,590
know bite the bullet and buy a
Nikon one of the ones using an

2023
01:59:16,590 --> 01:59:22,710
AP SC one of the bigger sensors
but a Four Thirds sensor is also

2024
01:59:22,710 --> 01:59:26,010
good or full frame but those
costs too much. So forget that

2025
01:59:26,010 --> 01:59:26,220
just

2026
01:59:26,220 --> 01:59:27,690
Adam Curry: a little thing you
put in your pocket and you have

2027
01:59:27,690 --> 01:59:27,810
the

2028
01:59:30,060 --> 01:59:31,710
John C Dvorak: million of these
and then

2029
01:59:31,710 --> 01:59:34,110
Adam Curry: you take it home
then you blowed it onto your

2030
01:59:34,110 --> 01:59:37,320
laptop with Linux Mint and you
can choose stuff and then

2031
01:59:37,500 --> 01:59:40,140
John C Dvorak: apparently it
takes a better picture generally

2032
01:59:40,140 --> 01:59:42,600
speaking than a phone can Yeah,
but it's generally

2033
01:59:42,630 --> 01:59:44,190
Adam Curry: you can take
pictures but you're not doing

2034
01:59:44,190 --> 01:59:49,260
selfies, not doing selfies and
you can't get on social media.

2035
01:59:50,370 --> 01:59:54,540
Then parents I would recommend
you look at an unroll or start

2036
01:59:54,540 --> 01:59:57,270
nine home server um so you can
give your kid you know, some

2037
01:59:57,270 --> 01:59:59,550
some stuff that you know they're
gonna have their own little chat

2038
01:59:59,550 --> 02:00:02,250
room in there. friends that you
can monitor. And if you don't

2039
02:00:02,250 --> 02:00:07,410
know what that is go to get
umbral.com It's all free, then

2040
02:00:07,410 --> 02:00:11,160
you should also give your kid a
handheld, two meter ham radio.

2041
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:15,420
And both of you take the test,
take the test. I mean those,

2042
02:00:15,450 --> 02:00:19,800
take the test, take the test,
and you should encourage their

2043
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:22,440
friends to do this so they can
talk to each other over

2044
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:26,310
distances. Because $35 for these
little things, give them a

2045
02:00:26,310 --> 02:00:31,290
library card. Get them a dog and
an AR 15 and teach them how to

2046
02:00:31,290 --> 02:00:31,920
use it

2047
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:34,410
John C Dvorak: in probably a
pocket protector.

2048
02:00:35,670 --> 02:00:37,200
Unknown: Yeah, okay, it's fine.
You're gonna

2049
02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:38,970
John C Dvorak: be a ham. You
might as well have one

2050
02:00:39,060 --> 02:00:42,390
Adam Curry: I would rather my
kid be a nerd than then then any

2051
02:00:42,390 --> 02:00:46,290
any alternative, any
alternative. And then finally,

2052
02:00:46,710 --> 02:00:50,430
know that you have power to stop
this insanity. And it is

2053
02:00:50,430 --> 02:00:53,700
happening. And it's
unbelievable. I didn't think it

2054
02:00:53,700 --> 02:00:56,910
would. I didn't think it would
happen. But the Bud Light

2055
02:00:56,910 --> 02:01:02,910
boycott is making a difference.
The numbers are in sales are

2056
02:01:02,910 --> 02:01:08,040
down 26% There's a poll done.
I'm not big on polls. This is a

2057
02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:11,850
Rasmussen poll, which is also of
course, like a bright wing right

2058
02:01:11,850 --> 02:01:18,390
leaning outfit. But the numbers
are clear. That Budweiser and

2059
02:01:18,390 --> 02:01:22,770
Bud Light is suffering
significantly. They cannot bring

2060
02:01:22,770 --> 02:01:27,000
themselves to apologize. I mean,
I went out was talking to my

2061
02:01:27,750 --> 02:01:31,260
John C Dvorak: buddy stop. This
is this is an interesting point.

2062
02:01:32,820 --> 02:01:37,020
They can't bring themselves to
apologize. They're afraid

2063
02:01:37,020 --> 02:01:41,010
they're going to offend someone
by apologizing. Yep. We didn't

2064
02:01:41,010 --> 02:01:43,410
do anything wrong. Well, that's

2065
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:44,700
Adam Curry: that's that's the
worst

2066
02:01:44,700 --> 02:01:45,270
Unknown: part.

2067
02:01:47,610 --> 02:01:49,560
Adam Curry: They're, you know,
they're they're saying well, you

2068
02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:52,740
know, it was just one single can
that remember we've talked about

2069
02:01:52,740 --> 02:01:55,140
this it's the it's the
distributors the local

2070
02:01:55,140 --> 02:01:58,740
distributors own the business.
And these people are mad.

2071
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:03,150
Because they the bars are saying
no, no, I'm not on one Bud

2072
02:02:03,150 --> 02:02:07,470
Light. We're boycotting them.
Tommy, who helped me we lost a

2073
02:02:07,470 --> 02:02:11,880
tree during that big storm. He's
he comes over with his with his

2074
02:02:12,150 --> 02:02:14,460
chainsaw and he's gonna go out
and talk with Tom. He's from

2075
02:02:14,460 --> 02:02:18,510
Waco. Originally. The N and they
Oh, no, I'm not. I'm not

2076
02:02:18,510 --> 02:02:20,850
drinking Bud Light. says you
know what else I'm not doing?

2077
02:02:20,850 --> 02:02:25,620
I'm not I'm not buying Nike
shoes anymore. And Tommy is 63

2078
02:02:25,740 --> 02:02:30,180
Amy has his helper Ryan he's 28
and Ryan's out nope, nope, nope.

2079
02:02:30,210 --> 02:02:31,170
Nope. Not doing it.

2080
02:02:31,650 --> 02:02:33,750
John C Dvorak: Were they Bud
Light drinkers before

2081
02:02:33,900 --> 02:02:35,310
Adam Curry: they were but what
they were they would drink

2082
02:02:35,310 --> 02:02:37,320
Budweiser I don't know if they
drank Bud Light but they're

2083
02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:40,560
boycotting all Budweiser
products and all I know is

2084
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,980
Anheuser Busch products in
general and they know it they

2085
02:02:43,980 --> 02:02:47,940
know exactly what beers are
under the InBev brand and the

2086
02:02:47,940 --> 02:02:51,900
nope know what screw those guys
and they're taking and they're

2087
02:02:51,900 --> 02:02:56,700
taking a stand and it's working
is working and this and what's

2088
02:02:56,700 --> 02:03:01,560
happening is now the marketing
community they are freaking out

2089
02:03:01,890 --> 02:03:08,700
because influencers that was the
business oh yeah influencers wow

2090
02:03:08,700 --> 02:03:11,010
they're all over Tik Tok.
They're all over Instagram

2091
02:03:11,010 --> 02:03:13,890
they're Oh, he has his how we
get our word out but all and

2092
02:03:13,890 --> 02:03:17,700
that's why they gave this stupid
Dylan Mulvaney Yeah, his own can

2093
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:19,620
he could tout that

2094
02:03:21,810 --> 02:03:22,770
Unknown: you blow your nose.

2095
02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:28,080
Adam Curry: And, and now all of
these marketing departments can

2096
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:30,660
be like holy crap, because you
know the VP of Marketing at bud

2097
02:03:30,660 --> 02:03:35,550
got fired. She's on leave now
she got fired, then it was not

2098
02:03:35,550 --> 02:03:38,640
it was not even the Denon
Mulvaney thing so much. It was

2099
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:41,970
the well, it's a tired old
arrogance. ratty brand. Yeah,

2100
02:03:41,970 --> 02:03:42,150
the

2101
02:03:42,150 --> 02:03:45,060
John C Dvorak: arrogance, the
arrogance of it, then marketing

2102
02:03:45,060 --> 02:03:46,530
arrogance is the worst, the

2103
02:03:46,530 --> 02:03:51,120
Adam Curry: incredible arrogance
of it all. And so keep it up

2104
02:03:51,150 --> 02:03:55,710
boycott. This is this is the
American power. And I don't know

2105
02:03:55,710 --> 02:03:59,970
if Anheuser Busch can recover.
Because this is this is

2106
02:03:59,970 --> 02:04:03,510
sticking. This is sticking and
Coors and other brands that are

2107
02:04:03,510 --> 02:04:09,660
non InBev are mysteriously going
up. It's really going up now. So

2108
02:04:09,660 --> 02:04:12,420
with all this, of course, you
know, what do you do about all

2109
02:04:12,420 --> 02:04:16,620
what I mean? It's social media
is the problem. screen phones

2110
02:04:16,620 --> 02:04:19,980
are the problem. There's there's
an article Gen Z years are

2111
02:04:19,980 --> 02:04:23,700
snapping up flip phones, Wall
Street Journal. You know, I

2112
02:04:23,700 --> 02:04:27,870
don't know, you know, we've seen
these trends before, but some of

2113
02:04:27,870 --> 02:04:32,700
the kids are like, I'm sick of
this stuff. So, you know, it

2114
02:04:32,700 --> 02:04:36,300
also is too expensive. The dumb
phones, the light phone 299

2115
02:04:36,300 --> 02:04:40,560
Seems like a good deal. I'll do
a review of that. But you know,

2116
02:04:41,340 --> 02:04:44,700
what I think ultimately, parents
need to take responsibility,

2117
02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:48,000
just as this email said, they're
the ones who are hooked on their

2118
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:50,280
phones. You've got to get off
your phone, you've got to get a

2119
02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:52,560
light phone. You've got to
change your ways because your

2120
02:04:52,560 --> 02:04:57,630
kids are seeing it. And you need
to be aware of what they're

2121
02:04:57,630 --> 02:05:00,690
doing. Be aware of the social
media network. So that's why

2122
02:05:00,690 --> 02:05:03,930
don't give them a phone for it.
Let them do it at home on the

2123
02:05:03,930 --> 02:05:07,140
laptops, you can look along. You
look over their shoulder. Kids

2124
02:05:07,140 --> 02:05:09,270
are always gonna do weird stuff
they don't know about but you

2125
02:05:09,270 --> 02:05:12,090
have to be more involved. You
can't just say, No, I don't

2126
02:05:12,090 --> 02:05:15,510
understand what you're doing
scrolling on about tick tock,

2127
02:05:15,510 --> 02:05:21,870
you morons. And of course, I
read our legislators. They have

2128
02:05:21,870 --> 02:05:26,250
all these dumb ideas, which will
now be arguing about forever

2129
02:05:26,310 --> 02:05:29,640
Unknown: a showdown over social
media for kids. As the US

2130
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:33,270
Federal Trade Commission accuses
Mehta parent company of Facebook

2131
02:05:33,270 --> 02:05:36,840
and Instagram of misusing the
personal data of its youngest

2132
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:37,620
users.

2133
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:41,910
Facebook has repeatedly violated
its privacy promises, the

2134
02:05:41,910 --> 02:05:45,180
company's recklessness has put
young users at risk, and

2135
02:05:45,180 --> 02:05:47,550
Facebook needs to answer for its
failures.

2136
02:05:48,270 --> 02:05:53,040
In 2019, Facebook agreed to pay
a $5 billion civil penalty over

2137
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:56,160
data privacy practices in the
wake of the Cambridge analytical

2138
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:59,940
scandal. The FTC though says the
company has not lived up to its

2139
02:05:59,940 --> 02:06:03,360
commitments in that settlement,
alleging that children under 13

2140
02:06:03,390 --> 02:06:06,600
are still able to chat with
parentally unapproved contacts,

2141
02:06:06,810 --> 02:06:10,080
and that the company is still
passing private data to unused

2142
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:14,520
third party apps. It's proposed
sanctions include a total ban on

2143
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:18,210
meta monetizing the data of
under eight teams a pause on the

2144
02:06:18,210 --> 02:06:21,870
launch of new products pending
compliance review and limits on

2145
02:06:21,870 --> 02:06:25,260
the use of facial recognition
technology. Meanwhile, a

2146
02:06:25,260 --> 02:06:29,160
bipartisan group of US Senators
is calling for a total ban on

2147
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:31,500
social media for kids 12 And
under

2148
02:06:31,710 --> 02:06:34,560
the technology industry is going
to find all sorts of innovative

2149
02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:38,070
ways to try to squash this bill
because you know, this is their

2150
02:06:38,670 --> 02:06:43,680
this is their profit center our
kids and promoting really

2151
02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:45,750
dangerous content often to our
kids,

2152
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:49,650
medicines. The FTC is latest
move is a political stunt

2153
02:06:49,710 --> 02:06:52,950
accusing the regulator of
overstepping its authority the

2154
02:06:52,950 --> 02:06:55,980
company has 30 days to formally
respond

2155
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:58,200
Adam Curry: and the reason why
none of this works now this will

2156
02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:01,500
happen and why why social
networks and social media is

2157
02:07:01,500 --> 02:07:05,070
always going to be around is
because the lib Jo's love it.

2158
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:09,450
The liberal journalists love all
journalist probably but the lib

2159
02:07:09,450 --> 02:07:13,770
Jo's of the worst though we live
and we're not Ill screw Ilan,

2160
02:07:13,770 --> 02:07:17,430
we're going to mess it down. And
then there were a mastodon like,

2161
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:21,510
well, we don't we kneel. It's
not exactly the way we like it.

2162
02:07:21,510 --> 02:07:25,320
And we can't find people and we
can't count all of our our views

2163
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:29,790
and our likes. And here we go to
the rescue. Jack Dorsey releases

2164
02:07:29,790 --> 02:07:32,340
blue sky Have you been following
blue sky?

2165
02:07:32,820 --> 02:07:36,270
John C Dvorak: I've only heard
about it. So by God, a blue sky

2166
02:07:36,660 --> 02:07:38,940
Adam Curry: invites. Thank you
very much one of our producers

2167
02:07:38,940 --> 02:07:42,120
gave that to me. And I'll just
give you the technical

2168
02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:44,970
background because this is not
discussed blue sky, the idea of

2169
02:07:44,970 --> 02:07:49,680
blue skies it kind of works like
Mastodon, where you have your

2170
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:53,550
identity or like nostril as
well. You have your identity and

2171
02:07:53,550 --> 02:07:56,310
that is yours. And you can use
this day to check into different

2172
02:07:56,310 --> 02:07:59,280
neighborhoods or different
servers, but you can be

2173
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:04,260
federated across the entire
platform. So not a single

2174
02:08:04,260 --> 02:08:07,620
reporters reporting on what it
actually is. But what they did

2175
02:08:07,620 --> 02:08:12,540
is all Oh, this is great. This
is like Twitter without Elon has

2176
02:08:12,540 --> 02:08:16,380
got an invite. Invite. Invite
the 11 Invite. Oh, Jake Tapper

2177
02:08:16,380 --> 02:08:20,490
is on there. Oh, yeah. AOC is on
that. Oh, yes. This is great.

2178
02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:23,790
Oh, it's an outlet everybody
show her boobs. Okay, everybody

2179
02:08:23,790 --> 02:08:28,830
show your butt. Okay, the trans
movement is here. And all the

2180
02:08:28,830 --> 02:08:33,240
lib Jo's love it you know why?
Because you can quote tweet.

2181
02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:38,580
There all the whole platform is
one lib Joe.

2182
02:08:40,350 --> 02:08:45,060
Unknown: smorgasbord. And so
they're they're

2183
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:50,250
Adam Curry: abandoning Mastodon
as quick as they can. Trying to

2184
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:53,160
build they're creating their own
language. Yes, they're not

2185
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:58,080
tweets. They're Skeets but
they're not tweets. They're

2186
02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:00,540
Skeets you know, blue sky ski.

2187
02:09:00,570 --> 02:09:03,480
John C Dvorak: They're actually
Daxing calling him skeet. Yes,

2188
02:09:03,570 --> 02:09:04,050
yes, I

2189
02:09:04,050 --> 02:09:05,100
Unknown: know. I know.

2190
02:09:05,340 --> 02:09:06,330
John C Dvorak: Holy moly.

2191
02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:12,030
Adam Curry: So I can just I can
I have to I have to give you one

2192
02:09:12,030 --> 02:09:16,380
of my code. You must you have to
witness it. This is better than

2193
02:09:16,380 --> 02:09:24,270
the secret Mastodon server we
have. It is they are so insane.

2194
02:09:24,870 --> 02:09:27,390
And so they're all going to
flock to this. This is the new

2195
02:09:27,420 --> 02:09:30,060
Oh, this is the new thing. It's
much better than the land

2196
02:09:30,090 --> 02:09:36,060
Twitter. Jake Tapper. Skeets the
AI has such a weird take on my

2197
02:09:36,060 --> 02:09:45,750
face. I mean, everyone is just
gushing over how great this is.

2198
02:09:48,180 --> 02:09:50,910
And this is the new Twitter. So
they're gonna

2199
02:09:50,970 --> 02:09:52,050
John C Dvorak: say we'll look
into it

2200
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:54,540
Adam Curry: now and I'll give
you a give you my give me a

2201
02:09:54,540 --> 02:09:56,820
bytecode I only have one more.
I'll give you my input and

2202
02:09:56,820 --> 02:10:00,360
that's in your it's a big hole.
How many invite code up Well you

2203
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:02,880
need moderation oh yeah now
there's they're talking about

2204
02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:08,670
how they need to moderate so
keep keep children away from

2205
02:10:08,910 --> 02:10:12,720
from journalists, I would say
there's another good keep them

2206
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:15,420
away from journalists keep them
away from news in general. You

2207
02:10:15,420 --> 02:10:17,790
know what listen to the no
agenda show and that'll be good

2208
02:10:17,790 --> 02:10:19,560
for him. And you know what? You
know what you should teach your

2209
02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:21,900
children value for value.

2210
02:10:23,430 --> 02:10:24,660
John C Dvorak: Yeah, have them
donate.

2211
02:10:28,890 --> 02:10:30,330
Adam Curry: With I'd like to
thank you for your courage to

2212
02:10:30,330 --> 02:10:33,390
say in the morning to you the
man who put the sea in chat GPT

2213
02:10:33,390 --> 02:10:35,280
ladies and gentlemen say hello
to my friend on the other end,

2214
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:36,480
Mr. John

2215
02:10:40,620 --> 02:10:42,300
John C Dvorak: Mr. Adam curry
also in the morning, little

2216
02:10:42,300 --> 02:10:45,240
ships at sea boots on the
ground, feet near subs in the

2217
02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:47,610
water all the names. Let's
measure them right away

2218
02:10:47,610 --> 02:10:54,210
Adam Curry: before they run
away. We're late today, we only

2219
02:10:54,210 --> 02:10:57,960
have one segment. For reasons
which will be obvious, although

2220
02:10:57,960 --> 02:11:02,340
we have some longer notes 1914
today. I know that doesn't seem

2221
02:11:02,340 --> 02:11:04,800
like a lot. People are
abandoning us John

2222
02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:07,830
John C Dvorak: gets about 100
higher than usual.

2223
02:11:07,890 --> 02:11:09,240
Adam Curry: Oh, really?

2224
02:11:11,550 --> 02:11:13,110
John C Dvorak: But yeah, this is
not Sunday.

2225
02:11:13,110 --> 02:11:14,790
Adam Curry: Oh, it's Thursday.
Yeah, of course. I say well,

2226
02:11:14,820 --> 02:11:17,550
well, those are the trolls are
in the troll room. And you

2227
02:11:17,550 --> 02:11:20,910
couldn't find them a troll
room.io. Or if you have one of

2228
02:11:20,910 --> 02:11:24,000
those brand new podcast apps,
you dump on the legacy stuff,

2229
02:11:24,150 --> 02:11:26,430
the ones where you know that
your favorite podcast just might

2230
02:11:26,430 --> 02:11:29,850
go away because someone decided
they didn't like it. And they

2231
02:11:29,850 --> 02:11:32,610
removed it from Spotify or Apple

2232
02:11:32,610 --> 02:11:35,040
John C Dvorak: even you know,
even the guys on Spotify are all

2233
02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:39,810
saying that everybody says this
app does wherever you get your

2234
02:11:39,810 --> 02:11:46,050
podcast from. Which was not to
interrupt a segment. But I do

2235
02:11:46,050 --> 02:11:48,930
have a What's wrong with
podcasting bit?

2236
02:11:49,500 --> 02:11:50,790
Unknown: Oh, well, let's look
well,

2237
02:11:50,820 --> 02:11:52,890
Adam Curry: hold on. Let me
finish this and I'm gonna play

2238
02:11:52,890 --> 02:11:55,620
the clip because that's what the
donation segment is for. It's

2239
02:11:55,620 --> 02:11:59,100
for interviews with guests. And
for for clips.

2240
02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:03,480
John C Dvorak: Clips, like this
one. Okay, so finish what you

2241
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:03,900
were doing.

2242
02:12:05,070 --> 02:12:09,330
Unknown: Yes, era? Yes,

2243
02:12:09,510 --> 02:12:11,730
Adam Curry: yes. Yeah, you throw
me off my game. When you do that

2244
02:12:11,730 --> 02:12:16,800
stuff. Go to podcast apps.com.
Grab yourself a modern podcast

2245
02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:19,890
app. Now there are a couple that
have this troll room feature in

2246
02:12:19,890 --> 02:12:23,700
it. It's pod verse, curio
caster, podcast addict, podcast

2247
02:12:23,700 --> 02:12:28,050
guru with more coming. And
you'll be alerted just like, you

2248
02:12:28,050 --> 02:12:30,390
know, just like a bad signal and
you can pop right in all your

2249
02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:33,360
podcasts will be there,
including the no agenda Show

2250
02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:35,700
podcast, but also the live
podcast and more and more

2251
02:12:35,700 --> 02:12:38,460
podcasts are doing this. This is
the cool thing. You want to be a

2252
02:12:38,460 --> 02:12:42,750
part of that for sure. Now, you
can also follow us at no agenda

2253
02:12:42,750 --> 02:12:50,790
social.com I kicked that guy off
iron Iron Hide whatever his name

2254
02:12:50,790 --> 02:12:56,160
was. Yeah, guy. Yeah. And now he
keeps trying to come in. Evans.

2255
02:12:56,160 --> 02:12:59,340
He's pleased to be he's like
he's posting all kinds of

2256
02:12:59,340 --> 02:13:01,050
horrible things about us.

2257
02:13:02,070 --> 02:13:03,780
Unknown: Like what? Like we're

2258
02:13:03,810 --> 02:13:07,800
Adam Curry: well we're
homophobic. You know, we were

2259
02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:12,720
boring. We're old. We're stupid.
You know that kind of stuff.

2260
02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:16,020
John C Dvorak: Oh gosh, I'm I
don't know what to do.

2261
02:13:17,640 --> 02:13:21,120
Adam Curry: Well, but he insults
people all the time. And the

2262
02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:24,210
thing that he overt he look, I
don't like kicking people off.

2263
02:13:24,570 --> 02:13:27,510
Normally just ignore them or
block them but I tried to calm

2264
02:13:27,510 --> 02:13:29,730
him down in a private
conversation. Then he started

2265
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:30,390
posting all

2266
02:13:30,390 --> 02:13:32,490
John C Dvorak: right, you get
rid of him. He's no Giza. No

2267
02:13:32,490 --> 02:13:33,210
good, Nick.

2268
02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:37,590
Adam Curry: Exactly. No good,
Nick. Exactly. By the way, big

2269
02:13:37,590 --> 02:13:41,280
shout out to nick the rat. He
had what we call a great get

2270
02:13:41,580 --> 02:13:45,690
yesterday. A great get, which is
a great guest. Did you hear the

2271
02:13:45,690 --> 02:13:50,760
guest he had? Yeah, my wife.
Yes. Mimi Dvorak. Did you get

2272
02:13:50,760 --> 02:13:54,240
your book? Not only do we get
the book, we love our book, too

2273
02:13:54,240 --> 02:13:57,360
many eggs too many eggs.com. And
we will be discussing it. I'm

2274
02:13:57,360 --> 02:14:00,090
carrying the keeper. Because
there's no good there's been an

2275
02:14:00,090 --> 02:14:03,060
egg controversy in the family
for a long time. And we and we

2276
02:14:03,060 --> 02:14:06,750
have as it solves by the book.
Yes, it is all by the book. I

2277
02:14:06,750 --> 02:14:08,850
don't know if I'm happy with it.
But yeah, it's off the books.

2278
02:14:09,330 --> 02:14:13,980
John C Dvorak: So what didn't go
your way? to controvert

2279
02:14:13,980 --> 02:14:14,190
controversial.

2280
02:14:15,179 --> 02:14:17,609
Adam Curry: It's big. It's a big
ass book. What does that thing

2281
02:14:17,609 --> 02:14:19,979
cost? If you buy the book? I
know you can download the PDF

2282
02:14:19,979 --> 02:14:20,489
for free

2283
02:14:20,490 --> 02:14:24,180
John C Dvorak: because $48 I
think is that's a that's a good

2284
02:14:24,180 --> 02:14:27,900
value. Yeah, it's actually we're
under pricing. It's kind of like

2285
02:14:27,900 --> 02:14:31,470
we're also giving away a free
PDF. Yeah. And so I mean, we're

2286
02:14:31,470 --> 02:14:34,410
in it to to lose money. So
people should take advantage

2287
02:14:34,470 --> 02:14:39,180
sounds like a podcast. I like
your eggs.com and get a free PDF

2288
02:14:39,180 --> 02:14:39,660
copy of

2289
02:14:39,660 --> 02:14:42,000
Adam Curry: quality of this
book. And the hardcover is like

2290
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:43,050
a Tashan book.

2291
02:14:43,230 --> 02:14:45,390
John C Dvorak: You know what I
mean? Like more than you don't

2292
02:14:45,390 --> 02:14:48,030
want to touch him book is No, I
don't know what No, no dough is

2293
02:14:48,030 --> 02:14:48,480
a term.

2294
02:14:48,509 --> 02:14:50,939
Adam Curry: Tasha is a publisher
and they do these beautiful

2295
02:14:50,939 --> 02:14:57,749
coffee table books big size with
a hardcover. I know it's a it's

2296
02:14:57,749 --> 02:15:00,749
not like it doesn't look like a
self published book. See crap is

2297
02:15:00,749 --> 02:15:05,039
nice. And then it looks it looks
beautiful rose. Yeah, it looks

2298
02:15:05,039 --> 02:15:05,549
beautiful.

2299
02:15:06,150 --> 02:15:07,710
John C Dvorak: We know how to do
this this work.

2300
02:15:07,740 --> 02:15:10,050
Adam Curry: Look, if you want to
interrupt me, I'm trying to hype

2301
02:15:10,050 --> 02:15:10,800
the book up. No,

2302
02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:13,170
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. Keep
going. What am I doing? I'm an

2303
02:15:13,170 --> 02:15:13,710
idiot.

2304
02:15:14,820 --> 02:15:18,000
Adam Curry: And I also would
like everyone to, to pray for

2305
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:22,530
our clip custodian son, Seamus,
who had to go in for emergency

2306
02:15:22,530 --> 02:15:28,110
chemo. It's really shitty. So we
want prayers for for Seamus,

2307
02:15:28,110 --> 02:15:28,530
please.

2308
02:15:28,559 --> 02:15:31,709
Unknown: Thank you all very
much. Good note. Yes.

2309
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:35,160
John C Dvorak: All right. Oh, he
too many A's dot com. Just check

2310
02:15:35,160 --> 02:15:36,270
it out and get a free copy.

2311
02:15:36,299 --> 02:15:38,039
Adam Curry: Great book. It's a
great book. Well, there you go.

2312
02:15:38,039 --> 02:15:39,779
There's our business model.
Yeah, we just need to make

2313
02:15:39,779 --> 02:15:40,439
products.

2314
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:44,640
John C Dvorak: This product is
high quality. Things take care

2315
02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:48,270
of themselves. Yes, exactly. And
listening to one of the podcasts

2316
02:15:48,270 --> 02:15:52,440
that are just, which is loaded
is one of the spin off podcasts

2317
02:15:52,440 --> 02:15:59,610
and it's loaded with with ads
for other podcasts. Oh, what

2318
02:15:59,610 --> 02:16:04,320
podcast is this? And so this is
an ad for Alec Baldwin's

2319
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:08,970
podcast. And I want you to
listen to you think this. This

2320
02:16:08,970 --> 02:16:12,780
is a guy that's not geared to be
a podcaster he can barely read

2321
02:16:12,780 --> 02:16:16,830
the simple copy. It just doesn't
make any sense. You know, he's

2322
02:16:16,860 --> 02:16:20,940
they've tried to put him on TV
to be an interviewer and he

2323
02:16:20,940 --> 02:16:23,910
thinks he's a really good
interviewer. But but just listen

2324
02:16:23,910 --> 02:16:24,600
to this.

2325
02:16:24,660 --> 02:16:28,860
Unknown: Hey, it's Alec Baldwin,
this past season on my podcast.

2326
02:16:28,980 --> 02:16:33,180
Here's the thing. I spoke with
more actors, musicians,

2327
02:16:33,360 --> 02:16:37,800
policymakers, and so many other
fascinating people, like actress

2328
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:41,490
and director, Cheryl Hines. They
were looking for an unknown

2329
02:16:41,490 --> 02:16:46,980
actress to play Larry, David's
wife. I said, Well, how old is

2330
02:16:46,980 --> 02:16:54,390
that guy? Isn't he? Listen to
the new season of here's the

2331
02:16:54,390 --> 02:16:59,670
thing on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple podcasts or wherever you

2332
02:16:59,670 --> 02:17:00,960
get your podcasts.

2333
02:17:03,510 --> 02:17:05,520
John C Dvorak: This guy's a
professional entertainer.

2334
02:17:06,389 --> 02:17:10,049
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's he's an
NPR like, guy. That's what he

2335
02:17:10,049 --> 02:17:13,139
thinks a podcast should be. No.
I mean, he's like, I have to

2336
02:17:13,139 --> 02:17:15,389
talk like this. I'm Alex
Baldwin.

2337
02:17:16,440 --> 02:17:19,470
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you
probably right. Not probably. I

2338
02:17:19,470 --> 02:17:23,160
just thought that was the worst
promotion for a podcast ever.

2339
02:17:23,700 --> 02:17:25,830
Adam Curry: Definitely not
great. I wouldn't want to be

2340
02:17:25,830 --> 02:17:27,810
promoted. Did you hear that? He
got off.

2341
02:17:28,620 --> 02:17:31,140
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he got off
in the officer. They defend him.

2342
02:17:31,560 --> 02:17:32,970
Not liable. Yes.

2343
02:17:33,450 --> 02:17:38,550
Adam Curry: Thank you. Hey, oh.
So we got the follow Adam and

2344
02:17:38,550 --> 02:17:41,760
origin social.com Jhansi. Dvorak
at no agenda social.com. And as

2345
02:17:41,760 --> 02:17:44,370
part of our value for value
model, where all we ask you for

2346
02:17:44,370 --> 02:17:48,060
is to think deep inside your
heart. What kind of value did

2347
02:17:48,060 --> 02:17:51,150
you get from this podcast? Can
you give something back? Would

2348
02:17:51,150 --> 02:17:54,270
you like to return the value?
There's a number of things you

2349
02:17:54,270 --> 02:17:58,440
can do time talent, treasure, we
have people doing amazing work

2350
02:17:58,440 --> 02:18:03,330
for us and, and boots on the
ground reports is really being

2351
02:18:03,330 --> 02:18:08,040
part of the large no agenda
community. We also love. The

2352
02:18:08,040 --> 02:18:12,720
treasure part is very important.
But we have artists who make art

2353
02:18:12,720 --> 02:18:16,230
for us. So we can always have a
fresh piece of art for every

2354
02:18:16,230 --> 02:18:21,270
single show. And it is very
beneficial. Very few shows do

2355
02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:25,620
this. And people like it. It
gets people interested. They see

2356
02:18:25,620 --> 02:18:29,820
it on social media or they see
it anywhere you get your

2357
02:18:29,820 --> 02:18:32,400
podcast. And like what what is
this when you click on this and

2358
02:18:32,400 --> 02:18:34,890
then other reminded that's no
agenda because those guys have a

2359
02:18:34,890 --> 02:18:38,760
new piece of art every single
time. So we want to thank the

2360
02:18:38,790 --> 02:18:43,530
artists for episode 1551. That
was our Palindrome show Big Mike

2361
02:18:43,530 --> 02:18:48,510
and the rock and the art was
from capitalist agenda. Now we

2362
02:18:48,510 --> 02:18:53,700
had a hard time selecting a
piece of art. This was it was a

2363
02:18:53,700 --> 02:18:58,890
great piece. We both liked the
piece. In general it was a tank

2364
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:03,840
in a pineapple, which was ITM on
it which it really didn't make

2365
02:19:03,840 --> 02:19:06,720
any sense unless you heard the
show which is what it is

2366
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:11,040
sometimes. But you know we had
the pineapple pizza we were

2367
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:12,210
talking about you

2368
02:19:12,240 --> 02:19:14,190
John C Dvorak: need the one you
liked the most was the piece of

2369
02:19:14,190 --> 02:19:18,630
bigotry by correct the record.
You were a big fan of as a piece

2370
02:19:18,630 --> 02:19:23,640
of pie a piece of pizza that was
signed. And I was a fan of

2371
02:19:24,209 --> 02:19:26,699
Adam Curry: I was more a fan of
Dame Kenny Ben's crushing the

2372
02:19:26,699 --> 02:19:29,759
narrative. You didn't like that
at all? Oh

2373
02:19:29,759 --> 02:19:32,159
John C Dvorak: no. That we had
that. I agree you'd like that

2374
02:19:32,159 --> 02:19:35,039
one too. So you had those two
but I didn't like to crashing

2375
02:19:35,039 --> 02:19:37,829
the narrative at all. I just I
What was the point of the Fisher

2376
02:19:37,859 --> 02:19:40,529
fist bump? I don't know. So

2377
02:19:40,710 --> 02:19:43,650
Adam Curry: know what you wanted
was the new drug from certain

2378
02:19:43,650 --> 02:19:44,430
net Ned.

2379
02:19:45,990 --> 02:19:48,960
John C Dvorak: No, I went to
coffee for kids for from certain

2380
02:19:48,960 --> 02:19:49,680
net net and

2381
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:52,020
Adam Curry: right but we both
agreed that there wasn't clear

2382
02:19:52,020 --> 02:19:54,810
enough that it was coffee that
they had needed to swap

2383
02:19:55,500 --> 02:19:59,280
John C Dvorak: some logos that
we thought a for example,

2384
02:19:59,310 --> 02:20:02,670
Starbucks logos on the coffee
even though this promotional I

2385
02:20:02,670 --> 02:20:04,620
think at least make the point
Yeah,

2386
02:20:04,680 --> 02:20:05,220
Unknown: yeah

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02:20:05,310 --> 02:20:07,350
Adam Curry: Darrell but you
liked the new drug because it

2388
02:20:07,350 --> 02:20:11,700
had take twice weekly contains
part Curry One part Dvorak media

2389
02:20:11,700 --> 02:20:13,110
deconstruct you'd like that one.

2390
02:20:13,350 --> 02:20:16,320
John C Dvorak: I did like that
one but you poo pooed it because

2391
02:20:16,560 --> 02:20:22,080
when you don't like art you
claim it's unreadable. Yeah. So

2392
02:20:22,500 --> 02:20:25,110
Adam Curry: a bone of contention
arises once

2393
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:28,560
John C Dvorak: again. So you
like your inbox? Let's be

2394
02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:29,190
honest, you'd like

2395
02:20:29,190 --> 02:20:30,780
Adam Curry: comics for bloggers
butts.

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02:20:32,130 --> 02:20:34,020
Unknown: The Kpop bots Yes you
do.

2397
02:20:34,080 --> 02:20:35,940
John C Dvorak: I thought that
was cute. I thought it was cute

2398
02:20:35,970 --> 02:20:43,440
use of some sort of but but then
it then a default back was the

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02:20:43,440 --> 02:20:47,400
one we pick which is media
colada. Media colada. That's

2400
02:20:47,400 --> 02:20:51,960
what it was. Yes. And because it
brought into pineapple, which

2401
02:20:51,960 --> 02:20:55,560
was part of the pizza story and
it the rest of it, which is

2402
02:20:55,560 --> 02:20:59,490
nonsense, but it was a nice
piece. It was well done. And so

2403
02:20:59,490 --> 02:21:01,170
we picked his quality it was a

2404
02:21:01,170 --> 02:21:02,910
Adam Curry: good piece and I see
that people have already been

2405
02:21:02,910 --> 02:21:05,400
making new pieces for for this
show. We

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02:21:07,260 --> 02:21:09,450
John C Dvorak: I also by the
way, I also like to should bring

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02:21:09,450 --> 02:21:16,860
this up from MC MC gooey. tranny
fluid. Yes,

2408
02:21:16,980 --> 02:21:18,450
Adam Curry: it was too small.

2409
02:21:18,660 --> 02:21:21,570
John C Dvorak: But for the Bud
Light was it was a transmission

2410
02:21:21,570 --> 02:21:22,110
fluid.

2411
02:21:22,560 --> 02:21:24,930
Adam Curry: With Bud Light on
it. It's an automatic trans

2412
02:21:24,930 --> 02:21:26,340
fluid. It was great. It was

2413
02:21:26,370 --> 02:21:31,110
John C Dvorak: it was a great
piece but to Canada's oil or

2414
02:21:31,110 --> 02:21:35,250
what trend transmission was too
small. Yeah, it's really too

2415
02:21:35,250 --> 02:21:38,310
small. You eat blowed up. You
can't read the automatic

2416
02:21:38,310 --> 02:21:41,610
transmission fluid or automatic
trans fluid.

2417
02:21:41,640 --> 02:21:43,290
Adam Curry: It was a very funny
joke.

2418
02:21:43,410 --> 02:21:44,460
Unknown: It was very funny.

2419
02:21:44,490 --> 02:21:46,740
Adam Curry: It would have been
executed. I think it would have

2420
02:21:46,740 --> 02:21:48,900
been a winner. People would have
thought it was very funny.

2421
02:21:49,140 --> 02:21:51,180
John C Dvorak: It is funny. I
think it's still funny, but it's

2422
02:21:51,180 --> 02:21:52,830
not. It's too dinky. Yeah.

2423
02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:56,880
Adam Curry: And now, and now the
joke is gone. I don't think we

2424
02:21:56,880 --> 02:21:57,750
can do it anymore.

2425
02:21:57,840 --> 02:21:59,550
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the jokes
over ones too old.

2426
02:22:02,070 --> 02:22:04,290
Adam Curry: All right, let's
thank our executive and

2427
02:22:04,290 --> 02:22:08,610
Associate Executive producers
for episode 1552 of the best

2428
02:22:08,610 --> 02:22:15,000
podcast in the universe. We have
a lot of 3333 Dots, 30 threes,

2429
02:22:15,120 --> 02:22:20,190
and some longer notes,
everybody. But I think in

2430
02:22:20,190 --> 02:22:23,340
general, we can just considering
we have no nights no title

2431
02:22:23,340 --> 02:22:27,180
changes. We have only one meet
up report. We can blow through

2432
02:22:27,180 --> 02:22:29,820
this in one go instead of doing
instead of breaking twice and

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02:22:29,820 --> 02:22:34,020
still give you some good show
for the money. In fact, may I

2434
02:22:34,020 --> 02:22:37,230
play something that only people
who listen to the donation

2435
02:22:37,230 --> 02:22:39,900
segment will hear and all those
other people who went away those

2436
02:22:39,900 --> 02:22:45,270
losers will be missing out on?
Sure. Okay, so we've been we've

2437
02:22:45,270 --> 02:22:48,720
been told that we have a lot of
fans in aviation. That's

2438
02:22:48,750 --> 02:22:53,490
understandable. I am an aviator.
And we have air traffic

2439
02:22:53,490 --> 02:22:56,220
controllers who are thrown out
in the mornings from time to

2440
02:22:56,220 --> 02:23:03,210
time, we'd like to add very much
in Nashville. We met Steve and

2441
02:23:03,210 --> 02:23:08,250
Jessica and they are pretty much
the Ken and Barbie of the no

2442
02:23:08,250 --> 02:23:15,690
agenda show. He is a pilot for
Southwest. She is a flight

2443
02:23:15,690 --> 02:23:20,040
attendant for Southwest
beautiful. He's seven feet tall.

2444
02:23:20,280 --> 02:23:23,250
You know she's got the blond
hair and the great people.

2445
02:23:24,210 --> 02:23:30,450
Fantastic. He's a knight and and
she has a blue. I wrote this

2446
02:23:30,450 --> 02:23:37,800
down she has she's an interior
designer as well, I think. And

2447
02:23:37,800 --> 02:23:41,220
she has. Tina is going to kill
me because I wrote down the name

2448
02:23:41,220 --> 02:23:44,160
of her shop, though. Anyway,

2449
02:23:44,190 --> 02:23:45,030
Unknown: I'll get that in a
moment.

2450
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:50,760
Adam Curry: So Steve sends me a
note. He says me now. I liked

2451
02:23:50,760 --> 02:23:54,600
it. That ATC is you know the
guys are throwing it in the

2452
02:23:54,600 --> 02:23:56,850
mornings. I haven't heard one
yet but when I do I'll be sure

2453
02:23:56,850 --> 02:23:59,730
to respond within the morning
says for two years, you know

2454
02:23:59,730 --> 02:24:03,150
southwest they can they do their
own their own little thing.

2455
02:24:04,260 --> 02:24:06,150
John C Dvorak: They have a
comedy act that they do in a

2456
02:24:06,150 --> 02:24:10,740
plane which is which was taken
from PSA. Pacific Southwest

2457
02:24:10,740 --> 02:24:13,620
Airlines, which is where they
stole many of these ideas are

2458
02:24:13,620 --> 02:24:17,040
set for the smile that was used
to be on the plane. But they do

2459
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:20,130
a comedy act when they tell you
to put your seatbelt belt on

2460
02:24:20,130 --> 02:24:23,100
it's very complex. Sometimes
they actually have a comedian on

2461
02:24:23,100 --> 02:24:25,890
the plane doing a long sketch.

2462
02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:30,360
Adam Curry: Yes. It's a dog
would proper.com is Jessica's

2463
02:24:30,420 --> 02:24:35,850
store. So so they have a lot of
leeway to do whatever they want

2464
02:24:35,850 --> 02:24:39,660
on the public address system.
Steve says I've been doing this

2465
02:24:39,720 --> 02:24:44,370
that what do you want about to
play for you for two years? And

2466
02:24:44,370 --> 02:24:47,430
not all my co pilots understand
it but it usually results in me

2467
02:24:47,460 --> 02:24:51,990
hitting them in the mouth. So
imagine you're in southwest This

2468
02:24:51,990 --> 02:24:56,850
is the pre takeoff announcement.
And he had one of his flight

2469
02:24:56,850 --> 02:24:59,970
attendants record this for him.
Okay, here we go.

2470
02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:08,970
Unknown: Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome aboard in the morning

2471
02:25:08,970 --> 02:25:11,970
from Paul and Steve up front are
your pilots flying you to St.

2472
02:25:11,970 --> 02:25:14,910
Louis today. I'll be off the
gate and on our way in just a

2473
02:25:14,910 --> 02:25:19,080
few more minutes of flying time
to St. Louis today one hour and

2474
02:25:19,470 --> 02:25:25,920
33 minutes headed to St. Louis
at a cruising altitude of 33,000

2475
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:30,210
feet. St. Louis weather last
hour reporting mostly sunny

2476
02:25:30,210 --> 02:25:34,290
skies looks like the temperature
their mid 70s with winds laid on

2477
02:25:34,290 --> 02:25:37,860
the north. Getting off the gate
and underway shortly. Thanks for

2478
02:25:37,860 --> 02:25:40,890
choosing us here at Southwest
today. Welcome aboard in the

2479
02:25:40,890 --> 02:25:41,250
morning.

2480
02:25:45,780 --> 02:25:50,070
Adam Curry: He says he has he
has not had had heard in the

2481
02:25:50,070 --> 02:25:53,250
morning back yet in two years
that he's been doing it.

2482
02:25:54,690 --> 02:25:56,010
Unknown: But you gotta love
that.

2483
02:25:58,260 --> 02:26:00,120
John C Dvorak: That'd be great
to be on that plane.

2484
02:26:01,710 --> 02:26:03,840
Adam Curry: I'd be right I'd be
storming the cockpit. I love

2485
02:26:03,840 --> 02:26:08,160
these guys. Alright, let's kick
off the donations today with

2486
02:26:08,160 --> 02:26:11,340
builder Mike and Eddie stone
Eddie stone at Easton,

2487
02:26:11,370 --> 02:26:14,640
Pennsylvania 333 dot 33. In the
morning this notice to accompany

2488
02:26:14,640 --> 02:26:18,060
my donation in commemoration of
my birthday my 61st which

2489
02:26:18,060 --> 02:26:21,240
happens on the show day this
year. Birthday list. You're on

2490
02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:25,890
it. I'm also attaching the file
for Barnhart. Donation. Barnhart

2491
02:26:25,890 --> 02:26:32,940
donation. I first heard Hey,
everyone, if you're donating

2492
02:26:32,940 --> 02:26:35,670
free 3333 You can have a
donation. I like

2493
02:26:35,820 --> 02:26:37,260
John C Dvorak: the cash
register.

2494
02:26:37,290 --> 02:26:41,370
Adam Curry: Yeah, we like it a
lot Barnhart donation. I first

2495
02:26:41,370 --> 02:26:44,040
heard of no agenda no factual
listening to the Barnhart

2496
02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:47,520
podcast a few years ago okay.
And became a regular listener

2497
02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:50,430
after I asked the Barnhart
podcast to recommend a source

2498
02:26:50,430 --> 02:26:54,330
for news thanks guys. I'm on a
recurring donation made a couple

2499
02:26:54,330 --> 02:26:56,940
of during that my during the
double up Promotions and this is

2500
02:26:56,940 --> 02:26:59,550
my first executive producer
donation be assured of my

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02:26:59,550 --> 02:27:03,540
prayers along with those of the
good folks at Barnhart dot biz.

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02:27:03,930 --> 02:27:08,640
That's ba r and h AR d t dot biz
for you and Jhansi thank you for

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02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:14,880
your courage. Non time bitcore
Ma'am, my heart shall not fear.

2504
02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:18,150
Okay, that was nice. Thank you
very much thrown in some Latin.

2505
02:27:19,290 --> 02:27:20,130
Unknown: You're on the list. You

2506
02:27:20,130 --> 02:27:20,970
Adam Curry: got a man Thank you.

2507
02:27:21,780 --> 02:27:24,510
John C Dvorak: All right, next
is Dennis O'Brien, out of

2508
02:27:24,510 --> 02:27:29,850
Brooklyn. And he gets gives us
33333 And I'm going to skip one

2509
02:27:29,850 --> 02:27:33,600
of his paragraphs because
today's is 33rd birthdays on the

2510
02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:35,760
list I've been listening for
almost exactly three years as

2511
02:27:35,760 --> 02:27:37,950
such it's high time to finally
gave me some of your much

2512
02:27:38,400 --> 02:27:45,060
deserved V for me. Please do
douche me. You've been D deuced.

2513
02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:49,140
When he like a jobs Carmen a
sampling of Al Sharpton. He says

2514
02:27:49,140 --> 02:27:52,530
he doesn't catch every show like
he used to but I still try and

2515
02:27:52,530 --> 02:27:55,380
listen when I can. It's a rare
and precious thing in American

2516
02:27:55,380 --> 02:27:59,040
media to he'll hear well
informed opinions from smart

2517
02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:01,740
guys with interesting life
experiences who don't have to

2518
02:28:01,740 --> 02:28:06,270
impress anybody or worry about
getting sacked for pissing off

2519
02:28:06,270 --> 02:28:11,340
the wrong billionaire. This show
is special please keep it on. A

2520
02:28:11,340 --> 02:28:14,550
final note to my fellow WAPP
ease commit these words to

2521
02:28:14,550 --> 02:28:17,250
memory no conspiracy is
necessary where the interests of

2522
02:28:17,250 --> 02:28:21,360
the powerful are aligned.
They'll still call you crazy but

2523
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:25,080
one in 10 might stop and think
about it for a minute stay safer

2524
02:28:25,080 --> 02:28:33,900
else jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs. Karma

2525
02:28:35,010 --> 02:28:39,660
Unknown: is the measure of
wherever the country begins in

2526
02:28:39,660 --> 02:28:44,790
the state of Wisconsin, a
national drive to push back or

2527
02:28:44,790 --> 02:28:49,860
whether we have more to go to
build a movement of resistance

2528
02:28:50,010 --> 02:28:58,410
but resist we much we must and
we will much about that. Be

2529
02:28:58,410 --> 02:28:59,370
committed doc

2530
02:28:59,370 --> 02:28:59,970
classic

2531
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:03,390
Adam Curry: classic, classic
sharp classic was the classic

2532
02:29:03,660 --> 02:29:07,590
corporate legal legal ism
Baytown, Texas 333 dot 33 first

2533
02:29:07,590 --> 02:29:10,980
timer corporate legal legal from
Texas. You have inspired me I

2534
02:29:10,980 --> 02:29:13,590
have moderated primary debates
for local political

2535
02:29:13,590 --> 02:29:16,200
organizations. I'm planning to
launch a bid for a district

2536
02:29:16,200 --> 02:29:20,310
judge seat the Texas torque
wrench for precise application

2537
02:29:20,310 --> 02:29:22,620
of law Thank you

2538
02:29:24,660 --> 02:29:28,650
John C Dvorak: 333 33 comes from
Sir BNA in Nashville, Tennessee.

2539
02:29:28,650 --> 02:29:28,830
This

2540
02:29:28,830 --> 02:29:32,550
Adam Curry: is our pilot this is
our this is our Steve our

2541
02:29:32,550 --> 02:29:33,840
Southwest pilot right here.

2542
02:29:34,500 --> 02:29:40,530
John C Dvorak: Steve Ben stra
sir BNA a he says that note for

2543
02:29:40,530 --> 02:29:44,070
three things hey get mo nation
Mother's Day is May 14. That's

2544
02:29:44,070 --> 02:29:48,540
coming up. And my smokin hot
wife Jessica has the perfect

2545
02:29:48,570 --> 02:29:53,880
gift box for mom and here we go.
Here it is. www dogwood

2546
02:29:53,910 --> 02:29:57,540
proper.com. I've been using in
the morning on all my welcome

2547
02:29:57,540 --> 02:30:00,480
aboard pas and ATC word radio
chicks underwear He played one

2548
02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:05,670
of them hopefully this trend it
will be changing in other words

2549
02:30:05,670 --> 02:30:09,840
he wants to hear from some no
agenda listeners when he when

2550
02:30:09,870 --> 02:30:12,420
you leave the plane you can say
something in the morning gives

2551
02:30:12,420 --> 02:30:17,490
John trade Kara Swisher then
then when a bit go ahead is

2552
02:30:17,490 --> 02:30:22,080
spoken shouldn't care a
colleague say okay John, rather

2553
02:30:22,080 --> 02:30:28,770
than Adam say okay Kara. Sure.
Okay, jingles, Bogey bogey and

2554
02:30:28,770 --> 02:30:31,980
that's true. Thank you for your
courage, Steve. Okay, maybe I

2555
02:30:31,980 --> 02:30:37,290
should do the. That's true
first. Sounds a little better

2556
02:30:37,290 --> 02:30:43,410
that way. Oops. Come on. It's
true. Here we go. That's true

2557
02:30:51,450 --> 02:30:54,840
Adam Curry: I feel bad should
be. It's true. That's true. It's

2558
02:30:54,840 --> 02:30:55,050
true.

2559
02:30:55,050 --> 02:30:56,460
Unknown: It's true. It's true.

2560
02:30:56,670 --> 02:30:59,580
Maybe this one is true. That's
Trump.

2561
02:31:00,630 --> 02:31:02,820
John C Dvorak: When we lost it
we lost it's true.

2562
02:31:02,849 --> 02:31:04,829
Adam Curry: I don't know what's
going on. Now. He that's not

2563
02:31:04,829 --> 02:31:06,119
possible. That's not true.

2564
02:31:06,900 --> 02:31:09,480
John C Dvorak: But it's not
lost. It's just lost.

2565
02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:14,910
Something's gone. How much
misplaced thank God here she is

2566
02:31:14,910 --> 02:31:15,510
glad we have

2567
02:31:15,990 --> 02:31:19,440
Adam Curry: Maynard throne is in
Tracy, California. 333 dot 33.

2568
02:31:19,440 --> 02:31:22,590
Short and sweet. I'm a driver
for a large grocery chain. John

2569
02:31:22,590 --> 02:31:25,470
really nailed it when he said we
are educating truck drivers

2570
02:31:25,620 --> 02:31:30,360
listeners since 2016. That we're
educating truck drivers. Comma

2571
02:31:30,390 --> 02:31:34,260
listeners since 2016. A donation
is long overdue, please deduce

2572
02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:46,710
ben de deuced along with a John
donate, donate, donate see and

2573
02:31:46,710 --> 02:31:51,120
that is this one and peace and
love to you both know I'm sorry

2574
02:31:51,120 --> 02:31:54,270
Maynard throne Tracy California.

2575
02:31:55,500 --> 02:31:57,270
Unknown: This the one you've got

2576
02:32:02,280 --> 02:32:07,050
Adam Curry: Dawn karma nice
nailed

2577
02:32:07,050 --> 02:32:09,330
John C Dvorak: down. Do you have
the note because I don't have it

2578
02:32:09,360 --> 02:32:13,740
Adam Curry: I do let me go and
grab that. There's two notes

2579
02:32:13,740 --> 02:32:15,300
which one is this? Christopher

2580
02:32:17,490 --> 02:32:20,850
John C Dvorak: I found it Oh,
good. Hey, it just Christopher I

2581
02:32:20,850 --> 02:32:24,840
pay goals who came in with 33333
Adam sharp mispronouncing his

2582
02:32:24,840 --> 02:32:28,470
last name. And he writes Hey,
John, and this is Christopher

2583
02:32:28,470 --> 02:32:33,990
from Menominee. Mama no money.
Money no money, man. No money No

2584
02:32:33,990 --> 02:32:38,130
money. No money. No money. No
money. No moon if I keep saying

2585
02:32:38,160 --> 02:32:42,090
I can't say man no money, no
money. I'm gonna enjoy this.

2586
02:32:42,420 --> 02:32:48,930
Check. 3333 is good. The show as
of late has been lacking in sumo

2587
02:32:48,930 --> 02:32:52,380
analysis. Oh, the reason is
because the tournaments are

2588
02:32:52,380 --> 02:32:57,420
every other month. John was you
think of that cure beyond a

2589
02:32:57,420 --> 02:33:01,860
carry beyond us. You show when
and what is your thoughts on the

2590
02:33:01,860 --> 02:33:06,960
main tournament? Is it push
Shiro is time? You know,

2591
02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:10,440
speculating on who's what Sumo
is going to win the tournaments

2592
02:33:10,440 --> 02:33:15,390
I've always found to be kind of
weird because this is like it's

2593
02:33:15,450 --> 02:33:18,870
I don't know how to say it. But
it's it's like speculate on

2594
02:33:18,870 --> 02:33:22,680
who's gonna win the NASCAR race.
And they do it. Oh, I think guy

2595
02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:25,740
Thank gosh, also is going to
win. No. You never know who's

2596
02:33:25,740 --> 02:33:28,410
gonna win. It's just some guy
gets lucky and wins a few key

2597
02:33:28,410 --> 02:33:33,150
matches. Also, can you say it's
scary? My niece? My niece thinks

2598
02:33:33,150 --> 02:33:36,000
it's your best catchphrase. No,
no, it's a scam scam.

2599
02:33:36,030 --> 02:33:37,170
Adam Curry: You gotta say it
right.

2600
02:33:37,410 --> 02:33:40,080
John C Dvorak: It's a scam. It's
let me get it right. It's a

2601
02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:44,040
scam. Nice. Stay dangerous.
Christopher.

2602
02:33:44,550 --> 02:33:47,670
Adam Curry: Thank you. Michael
Dorman is in Redmond Washington.

2603
02:33:47,700 --> 02:33:50,130
333 in the morning Jen thanks
for all you do please accept

2604
02:33:50,130 --> 02:33:53,310
some value for value jingle ants
in my pants. I think he means

2605
02:33:53,310 --> 02:33:56,640
ants, the ants. Classic ants.
We'll play a little bit of it.

2606
02:33:56,790 --> 02:33:59,730
May I please have some
relationship karma hands as I'm

2607
02:33:59,730 --> 02:34:03,240
starting off something with a
new special lady peace and love

2608
02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:06,060
to you both course. A little bit
of that for you.

2609
02:34:07,080 --> 02:34:10,260
Unknown: Just a little bit of
the ants, ants ants. I got ants.

2610
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:11,880
I got ants

2611
02:34:23,190 --> 02:34:25,020
you've got karma you

2612
02:34:27,720 --> 02:34:32,640
John C Dvorak: Lauren Powell.
Pillet Polesworth pelo Palla

2613
02:34:32,640 --> 02:34:36,450
Woda Palais WADA political i
There's a way of pronouncing

2614
02:34:36,450 --> 02:34:40,980
this like not gonna get it I
don't know what it is. Hello

2615
02:34:41,010 --> 02:34:44,310
Paulo Woda is what it looks like
to me but okay, and she's in

2616
02:34:44,310 --> 02:34:48,600
Chandler whatever the case,
Arizona she comes up with 333

2617
02:34:48,690 --> 02:34:54,030
that as did Michael Dorman. How
do you bow howdy to you both. As

2618
02:34:54,030 --> 02:34:57,840
much as I would love to say no
jingle no jiggles. She's got a

2619
02:34:57,840 --> 02:35:04,470
year. Yeah. Get No jiggle, no
jiggles no karma I can't. I

2620
02:35:04,470 --> 02:35:08,130
could I get a foamer trains good
plains bad and some goat karma

2621
02:35:08,130 --> 02:35:11,910
at the end of the note, let me
be brief. I just made this

2622
02:35:11,910 --> 02:35:14,490
donation very early in the
morning while my smokin hot

2623
02:35:14,490 --> 02:35:17,970
boyfriend is asleep. His
birthday was an April 29 and I

2624
02:35:17,970 --> 02:35:21,210
failed to get him a birthday
shout on the Sunday show. So I

2625
02:35:21,210 --> 02:35:24,690
had the idea to donate 333 and
ask what goes toward the

2626
02:35:24,690 --> 02:35:28,320
eventual knighthood of Eric
Bradley. But I would like to

2627
02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:33,360
executive producer if that's not
too much to ask. Good for you.

2628
02:35:33,360 --> 02:35:37,290
Good. Yeah, I agree. Anyway, I
know he's listening to the live

2629
02:35:37,290 --> 02:35:40,500
show. So I guess this is
somewhat of a surprise for him.

2630
02:35:40,770 --> 02:35:44,760
Happy belated 27th Birthday to
you. Harsh gut.

2631
02:35:45,300 --> 02:35:52,170
Unknown: Hi hirers golf horse
hoof partial partial golf. What

2632
02:35:52,170 --> 02:35:54,390
is it? Well, it's German

2633
02:35:55,710 --> 02:35:59,490
John C Dvorak: youth 3333 closer
to being a night now love you

2634
02:35:59,520 --> 02:36:00,390
mean it?

2635
02:36:01,349 --> 02:36:13,949
Unknown: Oh my god. On the board
trains planes are mine.

2636
02:36:17,160 --> 02:36:19,830
Adam Curry: Greg Birch. Oh,
there's Greg Birch.

2637
02:36:20,070 --> 02:36:23,520
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's he's a
baron. He's our den Baron Greg

2638
02:36:23,520 --> 02:36:27,840
versus the official no agenda
dentist dental professional

2639
02:36:27,840 --> 02:36:31,410
Adam Curry: from from way up
north in Port Angeles,

2640
02:36:31,410 --> 02:36:35,100
Washington. $300. Thank you
Greg. Birthday may 6 First one

2641
02:36:35,100 --> 02:36:38,130
without my father. I'm sorry
ma'am. I also understand all too

2642
02:36:38,130 --> 02:36:41,880
well. How much Adam surgery
cost? Not overboard. Haven't

2643
02:36:41,880 --> 02:36:45,180
missed the show. Cheers sir.
Birch. Thank you. Thank you sir.

2644
02:36:45,180 --> 02:36:49,050
Birch. Nice guy. I still use
one. He was the first one that

2645
02:36:49,050 --> 02:36:51,510
turned me on to the Sonicare
toothbrushes he sent me one

2646
02:36:51,900 --> 02:36:53,640
John C Dvorak: and I've been
using it ever since he went to

2647
02:36:53,640 --> 02:36:55,590
mind blew up I had to buy
another one blew up

2648
02:36:55,590 --> 02:36:58,260
Adam Curry: like exploded in
your face wave Vu up like a

2649
02:36:58,260 --> 02:36:58,710
vapor.

2650
02:37:00,690 --> 02:37:04,770
John C Dvorak: Sir John and
Blaine, Minnesota nuts 299 He

2651
02:37:04,770 --> 02:37:07,860
becomes Associate Executive
Producer and he says best show

2652
02:37:07,890 --> 02:37:14,190
ever last Sunday I believe. Very
interesting that Tucker and Dawn

2653
02:37:14,190 --> 02:37:19,410
analysis. Don wanted to get a
quick donation off before the

2654
02:37:19,410 --> 02:37:23,190
deadline and can't wait and
can't for the life of me find

2655
02:37:23,190 --> 02:37:28,830
what the exact email is for the
note. Adam, would you please

2656
02:37:28,830 --> 02:37:31,830
tell the listeners out there
what the note address is?

2657
02:37:32,490 --> 02:37:38,430
Adam Curry: Note notes notes and
ote s at no agenda show dotnet

2658
02:37:38,430 --> 02:37:42,210
notes at no agenda show dotnet
that's notes at no agenda show

2659
02:37:42,210 --> 02:37:42,930
dotnet

2660
02:37:43,680 --> 02:37:46,470
John C Dvorak: went to the
rickety devora.org page which is

2661
02:37:46,470 --> 02:37:50,100
being changed as we speak and it
still says to send money to

2662
02:37:50,100 --> 02:37:53,640
Jonathan or send notes don't
remember that but if it did, I

2663
02:37:53,640 --> 02:37:57,000
got it. Nice forwarded to Jay
we'll put it in his reg not

2664
02:37:57,000 --> 02:37:57,720
anonymous, it's

2665
02:37:57,720 --> 02:37:59,940
Adam Curry: a donation in the
subject line.

2666
02:38:00,600 --> 02:38:02,400
John C Dvorak: And it said
donation in the subject line

2667
02:38:02,400 --> 02:38:07,440
wisely. Yes. So that gets his
official voice wherever he goes

2668
02:38:07,440 --> 02:38:11,790
on. Keep them coming guys have
the greatest Michaud ever did?

2669
02:38:11,940 --> 02:38:15,360
No jingles Oh Come on Mr. John
of the Dunkirk mudflats,

2670
02:38:15,420 --> 02:38:18,000
Adam Curry: Baron of Whistler
and Whistler BC I've been to

2671
02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:21,780
Whistler. Fantastic that glacier
up there California. A Canadian

2672
02:38:21,810 --> 02:38:27,690
I'm sorry 244 dot 91 this is 333
Canada Navion That's right. We

2673
02:38:27,690 --> 02:38:31,830
have to upgrade him who are
upgraded analyst to be upgraded.

2674
02:38:31,830 --> 02:38:34,590
We still do that even though
your money is getting pretty

2675
02:38:34,590 --> 02:38:38,520
pathetic. I mean, it's short.
You're short. You're

2676
02:38:38,520 --> 02:38:42,420
shortchanging us by like 60
bucks crazy. And our dollar

2677
02:38:42,420 --> 02:38:45,810
keeps tanking my annual may 5
birthday dinner a donation John

2678
02:38:45,810 --> 02:38:49,440
forgot, so I can't complain
about the sink complain about

2679
02:38:49,440 --> 02:38:53,010
the Cinco Demayo promo this
year. What did you forget?

2680
02:38:53,700 --> 02:38:58,080
John C Dvorak: I forgot to plug
that tomorrow. Cinco de mio. Oh.

2681
02:38:59,040 --> 02:38:59,640
Oh.

2682
02:39:00,660 --> 02:39:03,720
Adam Curry: Happy birthday to
Theo to Theo's on the list I

2683
02:39:03,720 --> 02:39:05,910
guess. No, no. Yeah, yeah, yes,
he

2684
02:39:05,910 --> 02:39:08,220
John C Dvorak: is. He's on the
list. In your

2685
02:39:08,220 --> 02:39:09,330
Adam Curry: Theo Theodosia

2686
02:39:09,360 --> 02:39:10,920
John C Dvorak: so your Dorthea
DeVore IKEA.

2687
02:39:10,950 --> 02:39:14,040
Adam Curry: Oh, the adorable How
old is the adorable turning?

2688
02:39:14,070 --> 02:39:15,300
John C Dvorak: He's going to be
six.

2689
02:39:15,600 --> 02:39:18,630
Adam Curry: Oh man I used to
obey still make them do crazy

2690
02:39:18,630 --> 02:39:22,050
stuff. Like what? I know stuff
that his mother hates.

2691
02:39:22,650 --> 02:39:25,560
John C Dvorak: Oh, well. I mean,
if possible. Yeah, of course the

2692
02:39:25,560 --> 02:39:28,620
latest just give us a label. I
haven't got any latest ones

2693
02:39:28,620 --> 02:39:32,400
because you know he's been
grumpy and he's not always just

2694
02:39:33,420 --> 02:39:35,430
Adam Curry: opportunity. He's a
divorce wreck. He's

2695
02:39:35,430 --> 02:39:37,800
John C Dvorak: Grumpy. Grumpy
kid.

2696
02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:40,770
Adam Curry: Happy birthday to
see oh thanks for keeping it

2697
02:39:40,770 --> 02:39:44,280
real regards Baron of Whistler
lose go karma please. And we got

2698
02:39:44,280 --> 02:39:46,380
that for you, man. You've got

2699
02:39:51,630 --> 02:39:55,920
John C Dvorak: sure Tooth Fairy
envelop arrived Valparaiso,

2700
02:39:55,950 --> 02:40:02,280
Indiana. Hey, guys, John Irish.
If my copy of too many eggs the

2701
02:40:02,280 --> 02:40:06,240
other day nice what a wonderful
cookbook, please tell me me. I'm

2702
02:40:06,240 --> 02:40:09,600
greatly enjoying it and can't
wait to try some of the recipes

2703
02:40:09,600 --> 02:40:13,320
this weekend. I'll keep you
busy. Adam, thank you for

2704
02:40:13,320 --> 02:40:17,040
sharing your dental implant
experience you're hearing

2705
02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:20,700
improved after the infected
molars being removed is very

2706
02:40:20,730 --> 02:40:24,630
interesting. I've been screening
my heart of hearing patients for

2707
02:40:24,630 --> 02:40:28,740
undiagnosed sinus infections
since I heard your story. Cool.

2708
02:40:29,640 --> 02:40:33,870
Thanks for all you do. And Adam,
could you please not be so short

2709
02:40:33,870 --> 02:40:39,840
with John? What is this? He
means well yeah, and I agree

2710
02:40:39,840 --> 02:40:45,000
with with wizard Sure. I'm not
sure we yeah, good karma for all

2711
02:40:45,000 --> 02:40:49,290
please. Tooth Fairy. Oh, wow. I
only Wow.

2712
02:40:50,190 --> 02:40:52,470
Adam Curry: I would appreciate
you letting me know if you've

2713
02:40:52,800 --> 02:40:56,820
found any undiagnosed sinus
infections than that and I need

2714
02:40:56,820 --> 02:41:00,540
to hook you up with Mitch
Maverick. My periodontist. We're

2715
02:41:00,540 --> 02:41:04,410
going to start a revolution I
think all right. Yes, of course

2716
02:41:04,410 --> 02:41:12,660
we got Yeah, karma for you. No
problem. You've got karma. Those

2717
02:41:12,660 --> 02:41:15,600
are the executive and Associate
Executive producers for episode

2718
02:41:15,600 --> 02:41:20,460
1552. We thank you all very
much. These credits that you get

2719
02:41:20,460 --> 02:41:23,610
are permanent. They never go
away. You will always be an

2720
02:41:23,610 --> 02:41:26,100
executive producer or Associate
Executive Producer of this

2721
02:41:26,100 --> 02:41:30,510
episode. You can flaunt that
broadly wherever you feel like

2722
02:41:30,510 --> 02:41:33,600
it you could put it on all kinds
of places your resume or

2723
02:41:33,600 --> 02:41:37,980
LinkedIn profile IMDb, you can
actually use this and start IMDb

2724
02:41:37,980 --> 02:41:41,640
profile IMDb profile, they are
accepted. And they are

2725
02:41:41,670 --> 02:41:44,550
recognized there. And unlike the
douchebags in Hollywood, if

2726
02:41:44,550 --> 02:41:47,880
anyone questions this, we'd be
happy to hop on the phone and

2727
02:41:47,880 --> 02:41:51,720
vouch for you. We got a couple
of meetups to talk about John's

2728
02:41:51,720 --> 02:41:53,640
gonna take us through to the 50s
right now.

2729
02:41:54,120 --> 02:41:55,920
John C Dvorak: Match saying
yeah, we do a few people to

2730
02:41:55,920 --> 02:41:59,160
thank continue to thank and we
start with Matt and St. Clair

2731
02:41:59,160 --> 02:42:04,500
images names and amounts. Man
St. Clair as Matt in St. Clair,

2732
02:42:04,500 --> 02:42:12,060
Michigan 133 dot 33 urbana
boulders lol Oh, oh, it's

2733
02:42:12,060 --> 02:42:15,960
boulders. Is it really boulders
not builders? I don't know. But

2734
02:42:15,960 --> 02:42:21,570
anyways, Urbana boulders LLC in
Urbana, Illinois, Illinois.

2735
02:42:22,110 --> 02:42:25,260
Baron lattic. In in Houston,
Texas, John Rowe Benet Parts

2736
02:42:25,260 --> 02:42:33,930
Unknown Ron Chambliss is in the
Indiana metal metal dog machines

2737
02:42:33,930 --> 02:42:36,510
in Rocky Mountain House Alberta

2738
02:42:36,630 --> 02:42:40,830
Adam Curry: sent 100 Send us a
machine to try one a machine

2739
02:42:41,130 --> 02:42:42,990
machine and I want to Boulder

2740
02:42:44,310 --> 02:42:49,050
John C Dvorak: boulder be handy.
Boulder. You could use one in

2741
02:42:49,050 --> 02:42:52,680
your yard. I could Patrick
Brandon at sick oh, by the way.

2742
02:42:52,680 --> 02:43:00,210
Those are all $100 donors sorry.
Patrick brand is 8686 Kevin

2743
02:43:00,210 --> 02:43:04,590
McLaughlin is back with 808
Eating out just how many can he

2744
02:43:04,590 --> 02:43:08,010
do? Yeah. Gabe defend he's in
locust North Carolina. Gabe?

2745
02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:14,130
Gabe the Farrior? What's a farm
area three or four year? It says

2746
02:43:14,130 --> 02:43:16,650
Farrior and it came right off
the spreadsheets Brentwood,

2747
02:43:16,650 --> 02:43:23,880
California. Farrior 808 y n y n
Kartini in Torrington,

2748
02:43:23,880 --> 02:43:35,640
Connecticut 7421 Quarry rule in
Marion, Iowa 7183 instrument

2749
02:43:35,640 --> 02:43:39,540
check or something I'm not sure
what he wants. Sarah Hubert in

2750
02:43:39,540 --> 02:43:44,910
Mitcham UK sent us a really
sweet note on a piece of on a

2751
02:43:44,910 --> 02:43:50,190
pig. And she is it's just an
interesting note she said I

2752
02:43:50,190 --> 02:43:54,900
guess does murals or something
she's a she's an itinerant

2753
02:43:54,930 --> 02:43:58,140
artist and want to thank her for
that but

2754
02:43:58,500 --> 02:44:01,020
Adam Curry: why don't you read
the note? The trouble of sending

2755
02:44:01,020 --> 02:44:01,920
it on a pig?

2756
02:44:02,609 --> 02:44:05,279
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I have I
have it. I have it. You have it.

2757
02:44:05,279 --> 02:44:06,059
Why don't you read it in the

2758
02:44:06,060 --> 02:44:07,950
Adam Curry: morning John Adam
here's my rather late Happy

2759
02:44:07,950 --> 02:44:11,460
Birthday John donation you see
is important. Yeah, it is for me

2760
02:44:11,460 --> 02:44:18,090
7158 58 P That's Pence is for my
birthday, which was on the

2761
02:44:18,090 --> 02:44:21,630
fourth it's late because I was
value for valuing in a remote

2762
02:44:21,630 --> 02:44:26,160
rural South African Zozo
village. Oh, I've seen I've seen

2763
02:44:26,160 --> 02:44:29,160
Sarah's work she sent me a
picture of this. I paint murals

2764
02:44:29,160 --> 02:44:31,680
and teach local artists in
return for accommodation and

2765
02:44:31,680 --> 02:44:36,960
meals. Check out the beautiful
Bulu lunga lodge pronounced boo

2766
02:44:37,290 --> 02:44:41,970
boo Lauren Gula Gula Gula at
boom hula hula hula Bulla.

2767
02:44:43,980 --> 02:44:52,890
raceless. OUT B ULUNGUL a.co.za
for South Africa. In my five

2768
02:44:52,890 --> 02:44:57,240
weeks there I unplugged from
everything except the best

2769
02:44:57,240 --> 02:45:01,080
podcast in the universe.
unmissable love slit from hair

2770
02:45:01,110 --> 02:45:04,830
Sara Huber Thank you Sarah. Nice
note worth it.

2771
02:45:04,890 --> 02:45:08,310
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she's
actually famous Max Wyndham in

2772
02:45:08,310 --> 02:45:15,390
spring Texas $68 Hindery?
jowling Yeah, Link yada yada

2773
02:45:15,390 --> 02:45:20,280
link and haired here to knit.
herder herder didn't get that

2774
02:45:20,280 --> 02:45:24,660
Ian they're here. Hendricks yeah
Lincoln held here.

2775
02:45:25,620 --> 02:45:28,020
Unknown: Here to here or die
here

2776
02:45:30,090 --> 02:45:35,010
John C Dvorak: 5065 56 And he
wants to give a shout out to and

2777
02:45:35,010 --> 02:45:39,450
Peter Strick Verica in here are

2778
02:45:41,940 --> 02:45:44,550
Adam Curry: they doing it just
just to get this out of you? You

2779
02:45:44,550 --> 02:45:46,860
shouldn't be say love it to be
sending more money for that

2780
02:45:46,860 --> 02:45:49,380
people. You make him a monkey
before him. Come on was just

2781
02:45:49,380 --> 02:45:51,630
sending more money. More money.

2782
02:45:52,740 --> 02:45:56,520
John C Dvorak: Brian Furley 5510
parts a nosy anonymous in

2783
02:45:56,640 --> 02:46:02,760
Liverpool. Oh mercy UK mercy
city. 510 Yeah. Arlene's dig.

2784
02:46:02,760 --> 02:46:06,480
Gaina in Levittown, New York. I
need some karma. You will get

2785
02:46:06,480 --> 02:46:10,830
put down at the end there for
you. 5446 and I could have the

2786
02:46:10,830 --> 02:46:16,920
name wrong di GE na Bob Butler's
Nixon coming ga 5069 Mike Vaughn

2787
02:46:16,920 --> 02:46:23,880
in Clarkston, Michigan 5036 with
a birthday Dame Dame night is

2788
02:46:23,880 --> 02:46:24,540
who this is.

2789
02:46:25,530 --> 02:46:28,470
Adam Curry: Mike Vaughn also
says missed make good from Show

2790
02:46:28,470 --> 02:46:33,330
1500 Need some baby making
karma? I'll do that for you

2791
02:46:33,330 --> 02:46:35,820
Mike. I got the baby making calm
we got the special baby making

2792
02:46:35,820 --> 02:46:36,120
karma.

2793
02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:39,210
John C Dvorak: So on game night
and Edmonds Washington is 5015

2794
02:46:39,210 --> 02:46:44,400
And now we got the $50 donors.
Few of them Clara Thornhill

2795
02:46:44,400 --> 02:46:49,830
stopped it starts it off in
Toronto dotted mind and dotted

2796
02:46:49,830 --> 02:46:55,380
mind and Lincoln shirt UK. Tony
laying send us

2797
02:46:56,550 --> 02:46:58,740
Adam Curry: send us a dotted
mind with a machine we need a

2798
02:46:58,740 --> 02:46:59,790
dotted my

2799
02:46:59,880 --> 02:47:04,080
John C Dvorak: a couple Tony
Lang and Castle Pines, Colorado

2800
02:47:04,080 --> 02:47:09,750
Gerrard and Plano in Salem,
Oregon. Justin Heiner in vine

2801
02:47:09,750 --> 02:47:14,850
Grove Kentucky. Jacob Martinez
in El montay California Anna

2802
02:47:14,850 --> 02:47:20,370
Drake in Whitestone. Indiana
Kurt Patrick in Nanaimo BC on

2803
02:47:20,370 --> 02:47:26,010
the island, James sheremeta in
Napa Henok, New York, Charles

2804
02:47:26,010 --> 02:47:30,330
Peterson Alburquerque Baron of
Belmont in Belmont North

2805
02:47:30,330 --> 02:47:34,710
Carolina with a with a birthday
shout out Brian Watson in

2806
02:47:34,710 --> 02:47:37,980
Raleigh, North Carolina Walker
Phillips in San Rafael,

2807
02:47:37,980 --> 02:47:42,330
California. And last but not
least, I Ichi Chittagong Galois

2808
02:47:42,630 --> 02:47:44,760
in San Francisco,

2809
02:47:44,789 --> 02:47:49,409
Adam Curry: I have one note, one
note that came into my PO box

2810
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which is always a little
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and it's handwritten note pod
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well in resting post surgery,
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02:48:05,999 --> 02:48:09,059
asked for cargo from my smokin
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read. And he gave me a cool
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to John. It's just It ruins the
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2822
02:48:34,319 --> 02:48:37,019
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02:48:37,019 --> 02:48:41,009
everyone who also came in under
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you're on what you want.
complete anonymity. And there's

2825
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one reason for you, but also
people on some of these

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sustaining donations which are
incredibly important,

2827
02:48:50,219 --> 02:48:53,159
particularly when when you have
one donation segment then those

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02:48:53,159 --> 02:48:56,699
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like to learn more, go to the
still old page but a new ones in

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the works as

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Unknown: we speak vora.org/in

2832
02:49:03,810 --> 02:49:04,830
And here's the karma

2833
02:49:04,830 --> 02:49:11,310
Adam Curry: for everybody who
needed I'm adding a goat thank

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02:49:11,310 --> 02:49:14,040
you all very much for supporting
the best podcast in the universe

2835
02:49:14,040 --> 02:49:19,860
episode 155 formula is this. We
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mouth.

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Our birthday list includes Sarah
Hubert who celebrated April 4.

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Lauren pelota wishes her smokin
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02:49:48,540 --> 02:49:52,860
ablated. Happy Birthday turned
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02:49:52,890 --> 02:49:56,580
April 4. That's an old one. I'm
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02:49:56,580 --> 02:50:01,020
April 30. We have the Baron of
Belmont wishes Comrade John

2842
02:50:01,020 --> 02:50:04,950
thrower Happy Birthday that was
May 1 builder Mike turning 61

2843
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today. Danielle Mackay
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02:50:09,570 --> 02:50:13,830
CM dorable Devorah. Tomorrow may
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02:50:13,830 --> 02:50:17,520
tomorrow may 5. Greg Birch, our
dentist up north may 6, and

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02:50:17,520 --> 02:50:20,940
Dennis O'Brien is 3033 Happy
birthday for everybody here the

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02:50:20,940 --> 02:50:23,040
best podcast in the universe.

2848
02:50:25,290 --> 02:50:26,370
Unknown: No one said

2849
02:50:33,510 --> 02:50:37,020
Adam Curry: no agenda meetups. I
am now I'm going to the Austin

2850
02:50:37,020 --> 02:50:41,340
meetup on the 13th I believe
Tina is going to be in New York

2851
02:50:41,340 --> 02:50:45,210
with her visiting her daughter.
That'll be for Mother's Day. So

2852
02:50:45,210 --> 02:50:48,330
I'm going to be them bring my
buddy Jimmy so looking forward

2853
02:50:48,330 --> 02:50:53,070
to everybody at Doc's backyard
on the 13th we had a one report

2854
02:50:53,070 --> 02:50:58,830
this is the I might be high
report their 10th 10th coming

2855
02:50:58,830 --> 02:50:59,880
together as a meet up

2856
02:51:00,060 --> 02:51:03,900
Unknown: in the morning John and
Adam. We had our 10th meet up in

2857
02:51:03,900 --> 02:51:10,470
Toronto, Ontario, Canada. In
honor of Canada's Bill C 11. We

2858
02:51:10,470 --> 02:51:15,060
bring you the I must be Hi
meetup records. How many

2859
02:51:15,060 --> 02:51:16,380
donators in this room

2860
02:51:17,100 --> 02:51:19,200
My name is not Troy I'm really
high

2861
02:51:19,650 --> 02:51:23,340
in the morning Adam and John
from Toronto still a douche bag

2862
02:51:23,370 --> 02:51:24,720
so sorry broke musician.

2863
02:51:25,230 --> 02:51:27,390
I'm a douche bag get

2864
02:51:28,830 --> 02:51:33,540
Adam creed like DM me come up
with something in the morning

2865
02:51:33,660 --> 02:51:35,850
Bitcoin I could buy weed with it
right?

2866
02:51:39,840 --> 02:51:44,280
Adam Curry: They actually were
high. That's impressive. Not

2867
02:51:44,280 --> 02:51:48,270
just not just a slogan those
guys mean it. Starting right now

2868
02:51:48,270 --> 02:51:51,390
if you're in Brookfield,
Illinois, the May the Fourth be

2869
02:51:51,390 --> 02:51:54,750
with you meet up is kicking off.
That's for Chicago central Irish

2870
02:51:54,750 --> 02:51:58,950
Times, pub and restaurant. On
Saturday, the Hoosiers Fort

2871
02:51:58,950 --> 02:52:02,220
Wayne club 33 weekend dancers
meet up one o'clock at house

2872
02:52:02,250 --> 02:52:06,540
tavern, a tavern and Coventry in
Fort Wayne, Indiana. We have the

2873
02:52:06,540 --> 02:52:09,570
secret Chinese spy balloon South
Jersey meet up on Saturday at

2874
02:52:09,570 --> 02:52:12,540
one o'clock at Miller's Ale
House Mount Laurel New Jersey.

2875
02:52:12,780 --> 02:52:16,320
Hogan's Heroes meet up in Ohio,
Michigan, Ohio, Michigan mixer

2876
02:52:16,320 --> 02:52:20,520
one o'clock. Liberty aviation
museum that's in Port Clinton,

2877
02:52:20,520 --> 02:52:24,630
Ohio. You must RSVP sir Timothy
have no fixed title is

2878
02:52:24,630 --> 02:52:29,580
organizing that. The Delaplane
Virginia new location spook

2879
02:52:29,580 --> 02:52:33,180
meetup I guess barrel oak winery
and brewery in Delaplane.

2880
02:52:33,180 --> 02:52:36,510
Virginia. All right. If you're
spooked, you need to be there.

2881
02:52:37,680 --> 02:52:40,770
Also on Saturday, the Virginia
Maryland West Virginia tri state

2882
02:52:40,770 --> 02:52:44,580
data science meet up Madison
Village Apartments clubhouse,

2883
02:52:44,580 --> 02:52:48,240
the main room in Winchester,
Virginia, done to spook meetups

2884
02:52:48,840 --> 02:52:53,040
and the making our own mural up
at four o'clock New York Time

2885
02:52:53,040 --> 02:52:56,370
Cleveland Drafthouse Garner
North Carolina. There you go, TJ

2886
02:52:56,370 --> 02:52:59,760
the redhead at the bar is
organizing hey now and on

2887
02:52:59,760 --> 02:53:03,870
Sunday, our next show day the
build Snohomish back better.

2888
02:53:04,380 --> 02:53:08,370
Snohomish Beck better three
o'clock Pacific south to summit

2889
02:53:08,370 --> 02:53:13,410
brewing, Snohomish Washington
and Lacey Chang is leading lady

2890
02:53:13,410 --> 02:53:16,680
three Jane is organizing that we
got a lot of meetups all the way

2891
02:53:16,680 --> 02:53:19,920
through where I see may
otherwise at the end of June

2892
02:53:19,920 --> 02:53:23,280
already. You see the Netherlands
couple of them he went up to

2893
02:53:23,280 --> 02:53:26,670
Amsterdam meet up in Leiden on
the Netherlands going insane.

2894
02:53:28,020 --> 02:53:30,480
All kinds of meetups this is
this is something that you need

2895
02:53:30,480 --> 02:53:34,710
in your life. You go to one and
you're guaranteed you will go to

2896
02:53:34,710 --> 02:53:37,440
another one even when you're
vacationing somewhere before you

2897
02:53:37,440 --> 02:53:40,200
know but hey there's a meetup
you always be checking it go to

2898
02:53:40,200 --> 02:53:44,070
Joe agenda meetups.com Look
around search around if you

2899
02:53:44,070 --> 02:53:46,770
can't find a meetup near you
start one is easy and it's

2900
02:53:46,800 --> 02:53:50,550
always a party with

2901
02:53:53,700 --> 02:54:00,030
Unknown: Bom Bom won't be
triggered all you

2902
02:54:02,550 --> 02:54:09,270
Adam Curry: say is like It sure
is. How are we doing on time?

2903
02:54:09,330 --> 02:54:13,500
Oh, man. You know we don't want
one donation segment we make

2904
02:54:13,500 --> 02:54:17,250
more we do more. Do more
podcasts. So

2905
02:54:17,250 --> 02:54:19,530
John C Dvorak: a couple of
things I wanted to play Do you

2906
02:54:19,530 --> 02:54:23,520
have an ISO? I do have an ISO I
have well how many do you have?

2907
02:54:23,790 --> 02:54:28,230
I appear to have for for some
reason? Well I have one and so I

2908
02:54:28,230 --> 02:54:31,110
think you're gonna win but
here's my one. There's your

2909
02:54:31,110 --> 02:54:31,740
okay.

2910
02:54:32,760 --> 02:54:33,780
Unknown: Oh goodness.

2911
02:54:35,520 --> 02:54:38,370
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, I
could I could fart and do a

2912
02:54:38,370 --> 02:54:41,610
better echo when the ISO contest
over that one. Let's see what I

2913
02:54:41,610 --> 02:54:41,880
got.

2914
02:54:41,910 --> 02:54:45,120
Unknown: Wow, that is really
interesting.

2915
02:54:46,590 --> 02:54:49,110
John C Dvorak: Okay, that's it
right there. Well, let me play

2916
02:54:49,260 --> 02:54:52,530
the other three. Just the same
guy who said wow, I'm really

2917
02:54:52,530 --> 02:54:53,070
high.

2918
02:54:53,220 --> 02:54:55,680
Unknown: You're not great at
stoking outrage. Oh, what a

2919
02:54:55,680 --> 02:55:00,300
shame. Little to produce I think
what's the This one

2920
02:55:00,330 --> 02:55:06,840
Oh yeah. Okay my last one
Russian disinformation

2921
02:55:07,950 --> 02:55:09,270
John C Dvorak: is cute but no,

2922
02:55:09,690 --> 02:55:11,790
Adam Curry: it's it's definitely
this one. Oh,

2923
02:55:11,820 --> 02:55:16,470
Unknown: wow, that is really
interesting because it's really

2924
02:55:16,470 --> 02:55:19,590
not okay. That one ask us cute

2925
02:55:19,620 --> 02:55:21,450
Adam Curry: All right good what
do you got? You got some some

2926
02:55:21,480 --> 02:55:22,950
John C Dvorak: some yeah I
wanted to talk a little about

2927
02:55:22,950 --> 02:55:26,490
get to clips because it's so in
you know it's not being reported

2928
02:55:26,490 --> 02:55:29,820
well here in this country as
usual because m five M has their

2929
02:55:29,850 --> 02:55:32,790
they have their their walking
papers or their orders or

2930
02:55:32,790 --> 02:55:36,270
whatever they call it on us my
paper they get their orders and

2931
02:55:36,270 --> 02:55:39,450
they're not going to do too much
about this Belgrade school

2932
02:55:39,450 --> 02:55:40,050
shooting in

2933
02:55:40,050 --> 02:55:43,530
Adam Curry: Serbia. Oh, okay,
good one. I'm glad you got this.

2934
02:55:43,860 --> 02:55:46,560
John C Dvorak: So here we have
two I have two clips, and one of

2935
02:55:46,560 --> 02:55:50,730
them has a little little tidbit
that won't be talked about much.

2936
02:55:51,090 --> 02:55:54,060
And the other one has kind of
another little tidbit that I

2937
02:55:54,060 --> 02:55:57,120
want to talk about. So let's
play the Belgrade school

2938
02:55:57,120 --> 02:55:58,560
shooting this AlJazeera

2939
02:55:58,800 --> 02:56:02,100
Unknown: the parents of a 13
year old boy accused of opening

2940
02:56:02,100 --> 02:56:05,520
fire in a school in the Serbian
capital Belgrade have been

2941
02:56:05,520 --> 02:56:09,630
arrested. The city's mourning
the deaths of eight children and

2942
02:56:09,630 --> 02:56:13,530
one security guard. Police say
the suspect to use his father's

2943
02:56:13,530 --> 02:56:17,310
gun in the attack. But the boy
is not expected to be charged

2944
02:56:17,310 --> 02:56:21,330
because he's below the legal age
to face trial instead, so be in

2945
02:56:21,330 --> 02:56:24,480
the present Alexander Bucha,
which is looking to change the

2946
02:56:24,480 --> 02:56:28,530
law concerning the age of
criminal responsibility and says

2947
02:56:28,530 --> 02:56:31,380
the Bible were placed in a
psychiatric institution.

2948
02:56:32,460 --> 02:56:35,700
John C Dvorak: Ha. So they're
doing something that it was

2949
02:56:35,700 --> 02:56:37,890
always talked about in
Escondido, and it just

2950
02:56:37,890 --> 02:56:42,120
disappeared from the face of the
earth, arresting the parents for

2951
02:56:42,120 --> 02:56:43,650
their bad seed.

2952
02:56:44,970 --> 02:56:48,600
Adam Curry: Yeah. And is this
it? Was this kid drugged up?

2953
02:56:49,470 --> 02:56:51,780
John C Dvorak: That we don't
have any not? Probably not in

2954
02:56:51,780 --> 02:56:55,590
this case, but who knows? Maybe,
but whatever the case was, the

2955
02:56:55,590 --> 02:57:01,470
parents of the 13 year old
shooter was arrested. I think if

2956
02:57:01,470 --> 02:57:04,020
we started doing that here and
might change a few things, I

2957
02:57:04,020 --> 02:57:08,160
would think so. So the parents
are a Russian. And then you hear

2958
02:57:08,160 --> 02:57:11,610
this other little tidbit in the
end of the second part of this

2959
02:57:11,610 --> 02:57:15,210
report, which I think is another
reason not to really talk about

2960
02:57:15,210 --> 02:57:15,750
too much

2961
02:57:15,779 --> 02:57:19,319
Unknown: fire on students inside
the hallway before entering his

2962
02:57:19,319 --> 02:57:23,069
history classroom, to show to
the teacher first, then turn the

2963
02:57:23,069 --> 02:57:27,269
weapon on his classmates as they
tried to flee killing and

2964
02:57:27,269 --> 02:57:29,579
wounding many edocs some spaniel
it

2965
02:57:29,580 --> 02:57:33,060
was I was walking up the stairs
and I could hear a sound I

2966
02:57:33,060 --> 02:57:36,810
thought maybe were kids throwing
firecrackers having fun, but I

2967
02:57:36,810 --> 02:57:39,180
could hear it more on the sound
was coming from the front of the

2968
02:57:39,180 --> 02:57:42,330
school. I saw the security guard
falling to the ground so I

2969
02:57:42,330 --> 02:57:44,070
quickly ran from where I was.

2970
02:57:44,610 --> 02:57:48,810
I security guard is also among
the dead, the teacher left

2971
02:57:48,810 --> 02:57:51,990
fighting for her life across the
world.

2972
02:57:52,439 --> 02:57:55,199
This tragedy occurred in the
lettuce rebel group Nick Primary

2973
02:57:55,199 --> 02:57:57,689
School of the fracture
municipality of the City of

2974
02:57:57,689 --> 02:58:01,829
Belgrade. Unfortunately, eight
children died and one security

2975
02:58:01,829 --> 02:58:05,129
guard was also killed. The
injured children in one school

2976
02:58:05,129 --> 02:58:08,309
teacher had been hospitalized.
No one can bring these children

2977
02:58:08,309 --> 02:58:09,599
back to their parents.

2978
02:58:10,170 --> 02:58:12,870
As parents in the emergency
services courage to the

2979
02:58:12,870 --> 02:58:16,530
elementary school in the Serbian
capital. The suspect was on the

2980
02:58:16,530 --> 02:58:20,280
phone to the police confessing
the shooting. Before being

2981
02:58:20,280 --> 02:58:24,270
arrested in the schoolyard
described as quiet and good

2982
02:58:24,270 --> 02:58:28,650
pupil and said to be new to the
class. He was led away by police

2983
02:58:28,680 --> 02:58:32,820
his face covered, there is yet
no known motive for an attack,

2984
02:58:32,970 --> 02:58:36,660
the police said was carefully
planned to be

2985
02:58:36,660 --> 02:58:40,140
as peaceful. This was the list
of children that he intended to

2986
02:58:40,140 --> 02:58:44,490
kill. He did it alone, he made
the plan by himself. The plan of

2987
02:58:44,490 --> 02:58:48,180
entering the school of exiting
it was found on his desk. And as

2988
02:58:48,180 --> 02:58:51,690
he said he determined the
priority targets. This sketch

2989
02:58:51,690 --> 02:58:53,730
looks like a video game, a
horror movie.

2990
02:58:54,570 --> 02:58:57,480
These sorts of things does not
happen very often in Serbia,

2991
02:58:57,480 --> 02:58:59,370
very strict gun laws apply.

2992
02:59:01,590 --> 02:59:03,480
John C Dvorak: That doesn't
happen very often because strict

2993
02:59:03,510 --> 02:59:10,110
gun laws apply. You can't talk
about stopping with the strict

2994
02:59:10,110 --> 02:59:10,830
gun laws.

2995
02:59:11,160 --> 02:59:14,850
Adam Curry: That was rather
depressing. I like to leave on

2996
02:59:14,850 --> 02:59:21,600
an upbeat note about climate
change. And the reason this is

2997
02:59:21,600 --> 02:59:26,310
an upbeat clip is because this
is Kennedy. You know the Joe

2998
02:59:26,310 --> 02:59:31,560
Kennedy, the funny guy. The
funny is your senator. See you

2999
02:59:31,560 --> 02:59:35,400
Congressman John Kennedy, John.
John Kennedy. Yes.

3000
02:59:36,120 --> 02:59:38,040
Unknown: See? Yeah, he's a

3001
02:59:39,270 --> 02:59:40,200
John C Dvorak: good question.
Remember,

3002
02:59:40,200 --> 02:59:43,530
Adam Curry: I think he's a
senator. So he is badgering the

3003
02:59:43,530 --> 02:59:48,240
Assistant Secretary of Energy.
Yeah, who's presented the most

3004
02:59:48,240 --> 02:59:54,600
recent plan, which is I guess,
over until 2035, a total of

3005
02:59:54,600 --> 03:00:01,470
55 $0 trillion to combat climate
change. Get It sounds about have

3006
03:00:01,470 --> 03:00:02,250
you seen this clip?

3007
03:00:02,730 --> 03:00:05,730
John C Dvorak: Now I'm sure it's
I know as tight as the style of

3008
03:00:05,730 --> 03:00:07,860
clips, though they're all funny.

3009
03:00:08,160 --> 03:00:10,650
Adam Curry: All these all the
senators and the Congress,

3010
03:00:11,010 --> 03:00:13,800
people when they do this stuff
for the cameras, it's always

3011
03:00:13,800 --> 03:00:16,860
performative. It's always, you
know, it's to get votes or

3012
03:00:16,860 --> 03:00:19,800
whatever this guy, he
showboating, showboating. But

3013
03:00:19,830 --> 03:00:23,070
but in this case, it's really
appropriate. And it's really

3014
03:00:23,070 --> 03:00:26,160
good. And he just is, I love the
guy percent of

3015
03:00:26,160 --> 03:00:28,320
Unknown: global media. But if
you could answer my question, if

3016
03:00:28,320 --> 03:00:33,150
we spend $50 trillion, to become
carbon neutral in the United

3017
03:00:33,150 --> 03:00:37,920
States of America by 2050,
you're the Deputy Secretary of

3018
03:00:37,920 --> 03:00:42,150
Energy. Give me your estimate of
how much that is going to reduce

3019
03:00:42,150 --> 03:00:43,350
world temperature. So

3020
03:00:43,380 --> 03:00:47,640
so first of all, it's a net
cost. It's what benefits we're

3021
03:00:47,640 --> 03:00:50,100
having from getting our act
together and reducing all of

3022
03:00:50,100 --> 03:00:51,240
those climate benefits we're

3023
03:00:51,240 --> 03:00:54,360
seeing may ask again, or maybe
I'm being right, maybe I'm not

3024
03:00:54,360 --> 03:00:58,410
being clear. If we spent $50
trillion to become carbon

3025
03:00:58,410 --> 03:01:03,870
neutral by 2050. In the United
States of America, how? How much

3026
03:01:03,870 --> 03:01:05,970
is that going to reduce world
temperatures?

3027
03:01:06,000 --> 03:01:08,880
This is a global problem. So we
need to reduce our emissions,

3028
03:01:08,880 --> 03:01:10,050
and we need to do everything we

3029
03:01:10,050 --> 03:01:13,260
can how much if we do our other
artists are going to reduce the

3030
03:01:13,260 --> 03:01:17,880
war for 13% of global emissions?
I don't know do you? You don't

3031
03:01:17,880 --> 03:01:20,670
know. Do you can do the math we
need? You don't know. Do you,

3032
03:01:20,670 --> 03:01:25,500
Mr. Secretary? So we're 13%? You
know, why won't you tell me? If

3033
03:01:25,500 --> 03:01:28,170
we went to zero? That would be
13. For you, you don't know, do

3034
03:01:28,170 --> 03:01:32,490
you, you just want us to spend
$50 trillion. And you don't have

3035
03:01:32,490 --> 03:01:36,450
the slightest idea whether it's
going to reduce world

3036
03:01:36,450 --> 03:01:39,690
temperatures. Now I'm all for
carbon neutrality, but you're

3037
03:01:39,690 --> 03:01:43,110
the Deputy Secretary of the
Department of Energy, and you're

3038
03:01:43,110 --> 03:01:46,890
advocating we spend trillions of
dollars to seek carbon

3039
03:01:46,890 --> 03:01:50,220
neutrality and you can't and
this isn't your money and my

3040
03:01:50,220 --> 03:01:53,430
money is taxpayer money. And you
can't tell me how much it's

3041
03:01:53,430 --> 03:01:56,130
going to lower world
temperatures there or you won't

3042
03:01:56,130 --> 03:01:58,140
tell me you know, but you won't.

3043
03:01:58,320 --> 03:02:01,740
In my heart of hearts. There is
no way the world gets his act

3044
03:02:01,740 --> 03:02:04,230
together and climate change
unless the US leads tell me

3045
03:02:04,230 --> 03:02:08,550
how much it's really you. You
can't tell me either that or you

3046
03:02:08,550 --> 03:02:09,270
won't.

3047
03:02:09,360 --> 03:02:15,000
Adam Curry: I love that guy. 35
seconds for one last clip. This

3048
03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:19,200
guy's boss, the energy
secretary, Jennifer Granholm,

3049
03:02:19,710 --> 03:02:21,600
you know the one with a saucers
on her head

3050
03:02:21,630 --> 03:02:23,940
John C Dvorak: that she calls
here's the dumbest one in the

3051
03:02:23,940 --> 03:02:25,890
whole group. Well, yes, she

3052
03:02:25,890 --> 03:02:28,440
Adam Curry: is because tell me
if this sounds like a good idea.

3053
03:02:28,560 --> 03:02:32,310
Unknown: Do you support the
military adopting that AV fleet

3054
03:02:32,310 --> 03:02:33,480
by 2030?

3055
03:02:33,510 --> 03:02:36,300
I do and I think we can get
there as well. And I do think

3056
03:02:36,300 --> 03:02:39,750
that reducing our reliance on
the volatility of globally

3057
03:02:39,750 --> 03:02:43,320
traded fossil fuels where we
know that global events such as

3058
03:02:43,320 --> 03:02:48,450
the war in Ukraine can jack up
prices for people back home does

3059
03:02:48,450 --> 03:02:50,700
not contribute to energy
security. I think energy

3060
03:02:50,700 --> 03:02:55,800
security is achieved when we
have homegrown clean energy that

3061
03:02:55,800 --> 03:02:59,820
is abundant. Like you see in
Iowa, we think that we can be a

3062
03:02:59,820 --> 03:03:03,180
leader globally and how we have
become energy independent.

3063
03:03:03,270 --> 03:03:09,390
Adam Curry: She wants to put the
entire US military fleet on EVs

3064
03:03:11,100 --> 03:03:13,680
hilarious so we're in Iraq or
some you know one of these

3065
03:03:13,680 --> 03:03:16,860
desert places we'd like to go
and blow up from time to time we

3066
03:03:16,860 --> 03:03:21,510
have to go plug in Yeah, I mean,
really in how about the planes

3067
03:03:21,540 --> 03:03:21,960
they also

3068
03:03:21,960 --> 03:03:24,870
John C Dvorak: be all EVs? Well,
they're gonna try to do that

3069
03:03:24,870 --> 03:03:25,830
too. If they can.

3070
03:03:25,890 --> 03:03:30,360
Adam Curry: These people need to
be kicked out. Kicked out. All

3071
03:03:30,360 --> 03:03:30,660
of them.

3072
03:03:30,690 --> 03:03:35,760
John C Dvorak: How'd they get
in? In competency? Obviously no

3073
03:03:35,760 --> 03:03:37,320
rigged elections. Hello.

3074
03:03:37,680 --> 03:03:39,960
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yes.
rigged elections. All right,

3075
03:03:39,960 --> 03:03:45,660
everybody enjoy Saturday. You
know, King Charles is coronation

3076
03:03:45,720 --> 03:03:46,920
that should be Oh, that's right.
This

3077
03:03:46,920 --> 03:03:48,870
John C Dvorak: the big
coronations on Saturday he

3078
03:03:48,870 --> 03:03:51,750
played the clips remember? I
know but I didn't realize it was

3079
03:03:51,750 --> 03:03:52,620
this Saturday.

3080
03:03:53,430 --> 03:03:56,280
Adam Curry: There you go. No
agenda always on top of the news

3081
03:03:56,280 --> 03:03:57,180
and behind the title

3082
03:03:57,180 --> 03:03:58,830
John C Dvorak: Well, you know
I'm not gonna be there that

3083
03:03:58,830 --> 03:03:59,790
wasn't invited.

3084
03:04:01,620 --> 03:04:03,780
Adam Curry: Coming up next on
the agenda stream we got Rhino

3085
03:04:03,780 --> 03:04:08,580
the bearded with his double O
top 10. Yeah, music on the

3086
03:04:08,580 --> 03:04:14,910
stream all legal cool deal. In
the show mixes we have classic

3087
03:04:14,940 --> 03:04:19,470
April Kirby. We got new DS last
classic Billy Bones and some

3088
03:04:19,470 --> 03:04:22,230
Dustin Jones and coming to you
from the heart of the Texas hill

3089
03:04:22,230 --> 03:04:24,900
country here in your femur
region number six in the

3090
03:04:24,900 --> 03:04:26,910
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,

3091
03:04:27,150 --> 03:04:29,340
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain

3092
03:04:29,340 --> 03:04:30,450
I'm John C. Devorah.

3093
03:04:30,480 --> 03:04:34,140
Adam Curry: We return on Sunday
with another episode of the Best

3094
03:04:34,140 --> 03:04:37,140
podcast in the universe. Your
media deconstruction, remember

3095
03:04:37,140 --> 03:04:42,600
us at DeVore ak.org/na Until
then, adios mofos a hui, Hui,

3096
03:04:42,960 --> 03:04:44,130
and such

3097
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:01,020
John C Dvorak: Every day

3098
03:05:11,790 --> 03:05:19,020
Unknown: for the show like you
didn't have a chance to do

3099
03:05:19,020 --> 03:05:19,890
anyway,

3100
03:05:20,400 --> 03:05:22,200
Adam Curry: thank you for
producing the best podcast in

3101
03:05:22,200 --> 03:05:26,010
the universe while the producers
produce it y'all produce it we

3102
03:05:26,010 --> 03:05:28,950
just do it. I've been a listener
for the past few years I have no

3103
03:05:28,950 --> 03:05:40,140
recollection of how I found the
show. Stoner owner just dropped

3104
03:05:40,200 --> 03:05:42,450
in my lap at first I thought it
was okay

3105
03:05:42,539 --> 03:05:45,629
Unknown: back and forth punching
the nuggets It was fun getting

3106
03:05:45,629 --> 03:05:49,919
back to see my nephews I really
want a son or a daughter. I

3107
03:05:49,919 --> 03:05:53,579
don't care a healthy baby in
this world I guess it's a baby

3108
03:05:53,849 --> 03:05:56,849
who would go for that would you
say in fact was wack Bobby and

3109
03:05:56,849 --> 03:06:00,689
me have way too much money to
consider that day right? In

3110
03:06:00,689 --> 03:06:05,039
hindsight, the family tragedy
kids passing was sad to see in

3111
03:06:05,039 --> 03:06:09,029
the society we normalize the
lies that we tell ourselves not

3112
03:06:09,029 --> 03:06:12,989
even surprised brain Washington
schools is happening earlier

3113
03:06:12,989 --> 03:06:16,139
progress to regress when the men
are getting earlier fixed your

3114
03:06:16,139 --> 03:06:21,779
face can lie that I'm looking
certainly here gender affirming

3115
03:06:21,779 --> 03:06:25,439
care your parents are you not
scared? Child castration,

3116
03:06:25,439 --> 03:06:29,759
mutilation, top surgery scars
kids and treated like stars is

3117
03:06:29,759 --> 03:06:32,759
that formation generation
ruining the nation born in the

3118
03:06:32,759 --> 03:06:36,629
wrong body got domain mistakes,
who will Barbra Chet GBT is full

3119
03:06:36,629 --> 03:06:42,479
of deep fakes. 80% moving from
girls and boys media portrays

3120
03:06:42,479 --> 03:06:45,479
the other way and kids are not
what kids are not playing with

3121
03:06:45,479 --> 03:06:49,799
their toys SEL social emotional
learning. cradle to the grave

3122
03:06:49,949 --> 03:06:53,549
fathers in leadership is what
they yearn for anti trans

3123
03:06:53,549 --> 03:06:58,319
legislators since they know more
in my lifetime on medication

3124
03:06:58,319 --> 03:07:02,249
therapies more demonizing faith
in a higher God wants you to

3125
03:07:02,249 --> 03:07:06,179
relinquish the sovereignty to
God than the latter you like

3126
03:07:06,179 --> 03:07:10,589
Saad Sodom and Gomorrah other
times we are living in look

3127
03:07:10,589 --> 03:07:14,309
around at all this silly
promoted cities in Norwich and

3128
03:07:14,729 --> 03:07:18,959
know well what know what don't
get offended what's a woman

3129
03:07:18,959 --> 03:07:21,479
anyway top of the pyramid
transgender

3130
03:07:22,350 --> 03:07:25,110
Adam Curry: pollution has come
to light has that information my

3131
03:07:25,110 --> 03:07:28,170
wife has worked the last six
years for a company that makes

3132
03:07:28,170 --> 03:07:32,790
prosthetic penises for transmit
I mean we have no listeners of

3133
03:07:32,790 --> 03:07:35,040
any influence but we've got to
be interesting people

3134
03:07:36,150 --> 03:07:37,920
John C Dvorak: we have the apps
we've

3135
03:07:42,600 --> 03:07:46,470
Adam Curry: got no note for this
girl males let me just take a

3136
03:07:46,470 --> 03:07:49,620
look and nurture

3137
03:07:58,290 --> 03:07:58,680
Unknown: to me

3138
03:08:19,740 --> 03:08:20,460
back to the ball

3139
03:08:23,250 --> 03:08:25,530
Adam Curry: you know if you
smoke weed out musically sound

3140
03:08:25,530 --> 03:08:25,950
different

3141
03:08:28,680 --> 03:08:29,400
Unknown: this adrift

3142
03:08:31,020 --> 03:08:32,220
the bonds I got the bond

3143
03:08:33,510 --> 03:08:38,430
John C Dvorak: Amen I'm a like a
lightweight kind of a little

3144
03:08:38,430 --> 03:08:38,700
waste.

3145
03:08:39,750 --> 03:08:41,280
Adam Curry: Anyone see you in
this state?

3146
03:08:44,760 --> 03:08:45,960
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna go
listen to Rihanna.

3147
03:08:56,430 --> 03:09:04,140
Unknown: MOPO boruch.org/in A
Wow, that is really interesting.

