1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,150 John C Dvorak: electronic brain. Adam curry, 2 00:00:03,270 --> 00:00:06,600 Adam Curry: John C. Devorah. Sunday March 30 2023. This is 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,390 your award winning chemo nation media assassination episode 4 00:00:09,390 --> 00:00:17,130 1542. This is no agenda, pausing Oh, heart ai n broadcasting live 5 00:00:17,130 --> 00:00:19,800 from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here. And reason number 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,500 six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 7 00:00:22,830 --> 00:00:25,800 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I just got 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,760 the good news that I'm eligible for 0% interest on all my credit 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,040 cards. If I just press one. I'm Jesse Dvorak skill. 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,390 Adam Curry: And then you took it off the hook. Tell me that, 11 00:00:39,390 --> 00:00:43,230 please. After you pressed one, and you took advantage of that 12 00:00:43,230 --> 00:00:44,490 great opportunity. 13 00:00:45,990 --> 00:00:49,260 John C Dvorak: I had so many calls this morning that I had no 14 00:00:49,260 --> 00:00:51,480 problem taking it off the hook. You 15 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:56,190 Adam Curry: know, in maybe a CMC, it may be about four years, 16 00:00:56,220 --> 00:00:59,820 one day that phone's going to ring. And it's going to be me. 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,330 And I'm going to say, are you interested in a reverse 18 00:01:03,330 --> 00:01:09,420 mortgage? Guarantee? It's going to be me. And you're going to 19 00:01:09,420 --> 00:01:11,490 want to take advantage of that excellent opportunity. 20 00:01:12,780 --> 00:01:14,280 Unknown: Wow, did I lose you? 21 00:01:16,830 --> 00:01:17,730 John C Dvorak: While we're gone? 22 00:01:17,970 --> 00:01:21,720 Adam Curry: Oh, you're back. I was like, Wow, you really didn't 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,220 like my joke. I guess. I have you again. Are you with me? 24 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:28,020 Yeah. Okay. 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,070 John C Dvorak: real quiet today. I guess you're in any noise? 26 00:01:32,130 --> 00:01:35,970 Adam Curry: What do you mean? No noise were over the line because 27 00:01:35,970 --> 00:01:37,350 John C Dvorak: you think I'm not here. Oh, 28 00:01:37,380 --> 00:01:41,400 Adam Curry: you were just being quiet? Yeah. Well, hi. 29 00:01:42,179 --> 00:01:44,309 John C Dvorak: Well, what do you think if we're going to stop the 30 00:01:44,309 --> 00:01:47,669 AI? Are we gonna have transgender war? 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,420 Adam Curry: I'd like to start it off. Let's start off with the AI 32 00:01:51,420 --> 00:01:55,560 just so we we can go kind of in a in a fun direction first, and 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,730 make fun of us. I 34 00:01:56,730 --> 00:01:59,160 John C Dvorak: have a four series clip on the AI. 35 00:01:59,340 --> 00:02:01,260 Adam Curry: Beautiful. Let me let me play a 33 second 36 00:02:01,260 --> 00:02:01,800 overview. 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,550 Unknown: More than 1300 tech industry leaders, researchers 38 00:02:05,550 --> 00:02:08,790 and others are now asking for a pause on the development of 39 00:02:08,820 --> 00:02:12,510 artificial intelligence to consider the risks. Twitter and 40 00:02:12,510 --> 00:02:17,190 Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Apple co founder Steve Wozniak are among 41 00:02:17,190 --> 00:02:20,700 those who signed a letter calling for a break in the race 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,990 to develop more powerful AI. Musk and others say advanced AI 43 00:02:24,990 --> 00:02:28,380 which allows computers to perform tasks that normally 44 00:02:28,380 --> 00:02:33,090 require human intelligence could pose quote, profound risks to 45 00:02:33,090 --> 00:02:35,190 society and humanity. 46 00:02:35,430 --> 00:02:37,620 Adam Curry: Wait a minute. I already am feeling that you and 47 00:02:37,620 --> 00:02:40,710 I are on the same page with this. This is the biggest 48 00:02:41,130 --> 00:02:44,310 steaming pile of horse crap ever is my feeling 49 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:49,800 John C Dvorak: well, there's a Who Are they kidding aspect to 50 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,610 it? Oh, let's all stop for six months. 51 00:02:54,690 --> 00:02:56,220 Adam Curry: The first thing I thought when I heard that was 52 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Elon Musk wants everyone to stop so he can catch up. That was the 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,080 first thought I had Hey, hey, wha says stop. The smartest 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,290 people on the earth. John have signed this letter including 55 00:03:07,290 --> 00:03:08,370 Andrew Yang. 56 00:03:10,380 --> 00:03:12,900 John C Dvorak: He's probably behind it. Yeah, you're 57 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:13,560 Unknown: not kidding. 58 00:03:14,460 --> 00:03:17,610 John C Dvorak: Well, let's go to the AI freakout series for this 59 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:20,040 AI freakout intro there's the intro, 60 00:03:20,220 --> 00:03:22,980 Unknown: stop training, artificial intelligence, at 61 00:03:22,980 --> 00:03:26,190 least temporarily. That's what over 1000 very notable 62 00:03:26,190 --> 00:03:30,540 individuals want. They are AI researchers, CEOs and tech 63 00:03:30,540 --> 00:03:34,830 leaders like Elon Musk and Steve Wozniak, they signed an open 64 00:03:34,830 --> 00:03:38,400 letter it states that AI could profoundly changed the history 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,450 of life on Earth. The letter said we should plan for these 66 00:03:42,450 --> 00:03:46,650 changes. But unfortunately, we're not right now. Instead it 67 00:03:46,650 --> 00:03:51,480 says Orien an all out of control race to develop systems that no 68 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,940 one can understand, predict or control. 69 00:03:54,450 --> 00:03:56,880 Adam Curry: I just have to put this into perspective. You know, 70 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,500 my feelings about Elon Musk? Yeah, he he may be a great sales 71 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:04,140 guy. And he may be a great, you know, like I was called the Kim 72 00:04:04,140 --> 00:04:07,980 Kardashian of tech. Is he a great tech leader? Is he such an 73 00:04:07,980 --> 00:04:12,090 incredible visionary. I mean, he is he bought an electric car 74 00:04:12,090 --> 00:04:16,230 company and marketed that very successfully got into rocketry 75 00:04:16,230 --> 00:04:20,100 when NASA was out of it. So that was very smart. You know, 76 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:23,460 there's, it's not like a huge visionary thing unless you're in 77 00:04:23,460 --> 00:04:26,370 the loop on where the money's flowing and Wozniak with all 78 00:04:26,370 --> 00:04:29,730 respect for the Apple Computer Company. He also loved the 79 00:04:29,730 --> 00:04:32,400 Segway. You know, it's like this. These are not the smartest 80 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,470 people in technology as far as I'm concerned. And you're and 81 00:04:37,470 --> 00:04:39,360 you're bumping your mic, I'm just gonna say it and I'll shut 82 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,250 up about it. Yeah, okay. 83 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:46,530 John C Dvorak: Well, there are people on that list that are 84 00:04:46,530 --> 00:04:49,530 smart, but who I don't know what the point is. This is a 85 00:04:49,530 --> 00:04:52,410 publicity stunt. But I don't know what the point of it is. I 86 00:04:52,410 --> 00:04:55,680 mean, Elon Musk was getting a lot of publicity was there he 87 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,530 doesn't have anything for sales that I know of. I mean, he's got 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,860 he's involved in some Some little groups, but I don't know 89 00:05:01,860 --> 00:05:05,520 that he's I don't know what to point and then let's go to part 90 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:05,820 two. 91 00:05:05,940 --> 00:05:09,300 Unknown: So they want everyone to immediately pause training 92 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:13,830 for all systems more powerful than GPT for for at least six 93 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:17,760 months. They want the pause to be both public and verifiable, 94 00:05:17,790 --> 00:05:21,300 not just that they even want world governments to potentially 95 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:25,440 step in and implement a moratorium. We talked to someone 96 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,320 who signed the letter AI researcher Alexandra De Ridder, 97 00:05:28,350 --> 00:05:32,790 also a frequent NTD contributor. Director says a six month pause 98 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:37,050 is necessary. It doesn't stifle AI research as a whole and it 99 00:05:37,050 --> 00:05:41,430 gives the government time to work closely with regulators. AI 100 00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:44,730 is a very complex topic. diverter says that the pause 101 00:05:44,730 --> 00:05:48,840 would only work if every country commits to it because of some 102 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:52,650 pauses and some don't. The countries that don't will have 103 00:05:52,650 --> 00:05:58,110 an unfair advantage. And so what are the pros and cons for a six 104 00:05:58,110 --> 00:06:01,440 month pause, we get some experts to weigh in. The executive 105 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,100 director of Harvard in tech Krisha Lenzo says AI is like a 106 00:06:05,100 --> 00:06:08,100 train on the loose with no guardrails. She supports the 107 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:08,490 letter 108 00:06:09,330 --> 00:06:13,350 AI has tremendous capabilities and a could cause a lot of 109 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:17,280 problems for people whether it's cybersecurity issues, phishing, 110 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:21,240 scams or even disinformation, we really need to get a hold of 111 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,190 what is going on when it comes to open source AI, specifically 112 00:06:26,190 --> 00:06:28,350 chat GPT, which is a huge problem. 113 00:06:29,490 --> 00:06:30,480 But what 114 00:06:30,540 --> 00:06:33,420 John C Dvorak: what is she talking about? We already have 115 00:06:33,420 --> 00:06:36,720 phishing scams. We already have all these other things that she 116 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,020 says AI has got something to do. What is AI going to do to make 117 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:42,690 phishing scams any different than they already are? 118 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,600 Adam Curry: All I keep hearing is how dangerous is going to be 119 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,590 and all I see is stuff that's wrong. I just for me, it's like 120 00:06:49,590 --> 00:06:53,820 maybe they've come to the collective realization that this 121 00:06:53,820 --> 00:06:58,560 is not ready for primetime. It doesn't really work all that 122 00:06:58,590 --> 00:07:01,350 great. I mean, how many more pictures do I need to see with 123 00:07:01,350 --> 00:07:05,700 people with 18 fingers before you know and I someone even made 124 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:08,970 one of me here's Adam curry in the mid range. I mean, patina 125 00:07:08,970 --> 00:07:09,630 look, I 126 00:07:09,630 --> 00:07:10,020 John C Dvorak: had 127 00:07:11,340 --> 00:07:13,440 Adam Curry: said this is not you I see that right away. 128 00:07:13,979 --> 00:07:16,349 John C Dvorak: I have a picture I should have put put this in 129 00:07:16,349 --> 00:07:20,309 the last newsletter I'm gonna put in the next one. So it being 130 00:07:20,309 --> 00:07:24,239 or one of these guys have got these this art creation thing 131 00:07:24,239 --> 00:07:27,869 that you can subscribe to. Yeah, so I started asking for so 132 00:07:27,869 --> 00:07:31,469 wouldn't do a lot of stuff. So I decided to use you as the model. 133 00:07:32,219 --> 00:07:35,489 Adam Curry: Oh, I'm perfect for that model. Oh, yeah. 134 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,690 John C Dvorak: And so I said I want to see Adam curry kissing a 135 00:07:39,690 --> 00:07:43,500 bear. Now. We can't have anything like that. Okay. I want 136 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:43,890 to see what it 137 00:07:44,549 --> 00:07:46,499 Adam Curry: wouldn't let you do that. It said no, that's that's 138 00:07:46,559 --> 00:07:49,499 that's verboten? You can't have that. Yeah. Because it would 139 00:07:49,499 --> 00:07:52,349 have been some big biker dude, you know, big hairy biker, dude, 140 00:07:52,349 --> 00:07:53,639 are you meant to a real bear? 141 00:07:54,930 --> 00:07:57,060 John C Dvorak: Well, I just said, bear, I didn't specify 142 00:07:57,060 --> 00:08:00,870 what kind. So then I said, I want to see Adam curry riding a 143 00:08:00,870 --> 00:08:06,780 bear. So it gave me an image of some guy that looked more like, 144 00:08:07,290 --> 00:08:12,180 she looked a lot like Fabio, nothing like you. It didn't look 145 00:08:12,180 --> 00:08:15,600 like you at all. And I noticed enough pictures on the web deck 146 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,570 that they could have cobbled together a picture of you know, 147 00:08:18,780 --> 00:08:21,630 now this was not a picture of you, John Holt was a picture 148 00:08:21,630 --> 00:08:24,510 some ridiculous looking character who is just too good 149 00:08:24,510 --> 00:08:29,760 looking, writing this stylized bear. And I was I was gonna, I 150 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,850 was gonna run it into the I was gonna I didn't do it because I 151 00:08:32,850 --> 00:08:35,700 had other things to talk about in the newsletter, but I was 152 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:39,090 gonna run it. And if you saw it, you'd go. Yeah, good. I think 153 00:08:39,090 --> 00:08:43,020 they nailed it. You would, because it just like some 154 00:08:43,020 --> 00:08:48,810 ridiculous picture. Again, but it's a lie. It's like that's not 155 00:08:48,810 --> 00:08:50,370 you. It's not, you know. 156 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,690 Adam Curry: So what I think is happening here is that and I'm 157 00:08:54,690 --> 00:08:57,120 gonna focus a little bit here and I want you to continue with 158 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,420 these clips. I just want to say we know that Disney just fired 159 00:09:00,420 --> 00:09:04,650 7000 people. They fired the entire Metaverse division. Why? 160 00:09:04,650 --> 00:09:07,110 Because Metaverse was yesterday's news. You don't hear 161 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:11,400 a single thing about metaverse. $4 billion thrown away by 162 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,990 Zuckerberg and his, his, his you know, this this dream he had, 163 00:09:16,230 --> 00:09:19,050 which was never going to come to fruition was a bad idea. He 164 00:09:19,050 --> 00:09:22,890 couldn't it was just a pipe dream of his. So everyone now 165 00:09:22,980 --> 00:09:26,010 especially with Chad GPT everyone's tripping over 166 00:09:26,010 --> 00:09:29,430 themselves. Google barf, you know, sucks. Everything's it all 167 00:09:29,430 --> 00:09:32,730 sucks. It's not good. Yeah, I know. You have to be a prompt 168 00:09:32,730 --> 00:09:36,690 engineer. Okay, fine. I think they all realize that they're 169 00:09:36,690 --> 00:09:40,110 gonna go broke there's no advertising model on this you 170 00:09:40,110 --> 00:09:42,810 have to actually pay for it. It costs a lot of money for this 171 00:09:42,810 --> 00:09:46,560 currently. They're all gonna go broke in this in they've created 172 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:50,940 an AI war amongst the tech companies and they all said oh, 173 00:09:50,970 --> 00:09:55,050 you know what? We should stop this insanity, regroup so that 174 00:09:55,050 --> 00:09:57,960 we can still have a business model. That's what I think they 175 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,010 know it's no good 176 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:05,790 John C Dvorak: Okay, I think betting just valid. That's why 177 00:10:05,790 --> 00:10:08,460 they went to the baby, we stopped for six months. It's 178 00:10:08,460 --> 00:10:10,500 like a novice stop for six cores, it doesn't make a 179 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:12,780 difference what they want to do. Let's go to Eclipse three. 180 00:10:12,870 --> 00:10:15,390 Unknown: On the other side of the argument, a six month, six 181 00:10:15,390 --> 00:10:19,080 month pause, could stall progress. We talked to experts. 182 00:10:20,100 --> 00:10:24,360 He's the chief AI architect, architect at USC. He has a PhD 183 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,020 in machine learning and he's Microsoft's and the VP and AI. 184 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,770 AI landscape is highly competitive, and research and 185 00:10:31,770 --> 00:10:34,920 organizations around the world are creating more and more 186 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,910 advanced systems. And there is an inevitability of progress, 187 00:10:38,910 --> 00:10:41,670 right? Technological advancements are inevitable, 188 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,090 they are attempting to halt progress will only delay or 189 00:10:45,090 --> 00:10:49,350 delay the issues at hand. You want to empower the AI 190 00:10:49,350 --> 00:10:51,720 researchers and organizations who are already considered 191 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,300 deeply concerned about the ethical implications and the 192 00:10:54,300 --> 00:10:56,490 potential risk of these advanced AI systems 193 00:10:56,970 --> 00:11:01,440 Adam Curry: in Austin, which, according to sources, is 194 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:06,000 supposed to be the center of all things, AI, they're now trying 195 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:14,160 to hire AI engineers starting salary 300 to $500,000. Out of 196 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,880 control, and I know a lot of people, particularly our 197 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,160 audience are going you don't know what you're talking about 198 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,790 curry. This is this is the future you're not going to every 199 00:11:23,790 --> 00:11:29,820 single AI thing that I've seen, I It's live in my brain, which I 200 00:11:29,820 --> 00:11:34,260 think I only use what 12% of I got a lot of space left over. 201 00:11:34,590 --> 00:11:38,430 And already my brain is seeing the pic. Oh, the coat taupe 202 00:11:38,430 --> 00:11:41,130 please. Please sorry, 203 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,230 John C Dvorak: you brought that up right away because I wanted 204 00:11:43,230 --> 00:11:46,140 you to go back to that last clip and tell me what that guy said. 205 00:11:46,170 --> 00:11:52,290 Adam Curry: I have no idea. But he had the right accent to sound 206 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,360 authoritative. Sorry to be racist. 207 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:58,560 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I he that's the I T accent. Yeah, 208 00:11:58,620 --> 00:12:01,560 Adam Curry: as Indian. I'm talking about exactly. That's 209 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:01,980 right. 210 00:12:02,790 --> 00:12:04,110 John C Dvorak: Let's go to clip for another 211 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,070 Unknown: thought the founder of Eugene AI Sudeep Roy Chowdhry to 212 00:12:08,070 --> 00:12:11,520 weigh in. His AI firm helps manufacturers with their 213 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:16,020 operations. Chad Reese says the six month pause is not fair. Not 214 00:12:16,020 --> 00:12:18,960 that people should be free to develop the technology without 215 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,250 government intervention. 216 00:12:20,460 --> 00:12:21,930 What would we achieve? 217 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,840 Adam Curry: Whoa, hold on a second. Government intervention. 218 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,360 I didn't hear anyone call for the government to intervene. I 219 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,470 just heard a whole bunch of 220 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:30,870 John C Dvorak: Deadwood. The first the first Scout spoke on 221 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:33,210 this series of clips brought it up. Okay, I missed 222 00:12:33,210 --> 00:12:35,760 Unknown: that I missed that people should be free to develop 223 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,190 the technology without government intervention. 224 00:12:38,370 --> 00:12:43,200 What would we achieve by not making progress in six months? 225 00:12:43,620 --> 00:12:49,200 In this technology that I'm not sure what we can achieve by 226 00:12:49,230 --> 00:12:54,360 parallely working towards a framework for governing AI based 227 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,340 technology. That part I agree with and we should work on that 228 00:12:59,340 --> 00:13:00,180 as a community. 229 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:04,410 And not surprisingly not a single person from open AI has 230 00:13:04,410 --> 00:13:07,770 signed the letter open AI as the leading firm in generative AI 231 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,430 was mentioned explicitly in the letter we reached out to open AI 232 00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:15,720 Adam Curry: um, this look I'm going on my on AI Adam 233 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,290 intelligence. This has SIOP written all over this this is 234 00:13:19,290 --> 00:13:24,600 bullcrap. This is this is some scheme to benefit these guys, 235 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,920 probably just to save their ass because this is an arms race of 236 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,610 epic proportions. And the only one winning as far as I know is 237 00:13:32,790 --> 00:13:36,600 Microsoft as you are probably a lot of the same Serrana and 238 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,710 Nvidia. I'm going to be selling a lot of video card GPU cards, 239 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:45,450 but I'm just not seeing the the the actual application Okay. 240 00:13:45,810 --> 00:13:49,920 Every every teacher who was reached out boots on the ground 241 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,090 says like I can't see that this was not written by my moronic 242 00:13:54,090 --> 00:13:57,810 students. Please That's insulting they all see it they 243 00:13:57,810 --> 00:13:58,440 all know it. 244 00:14:00,420 --> 00:14:03,510 John C Dvorak: Let's go to AI freak out. This is the idiocy 245 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:04,890 showdown clip. 246 00:14:05,099 --> 00:14:09,389 Unknown: And we tested chat GPT versus Google bar. Now with a 247 00:14:09,569 --> 00:14:13,559 bar ban bar possibility we had the two bots get advice for 248 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,289 Tiktok influencers and TV Shawn Marshall has more 249 00:14:17,460 --> 00:14:21,150 than a small competition between the two top chat bots today. But 250 00:14:21,180 --> 00:14:24,240 we asked Chad GPT for and Google's bird the same question, 251 00:14:24,690 --> 00:14:27,750 who are tick tock influencer deal with it if the US 252 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:30,840 government decides to move forward with a ban on tick tock. 253 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,930 Tensions keep rising between America and the Chinese 254 00:14:33,930 --> 00:14:37,560 Communist Party. The possibility of a tick tock ban to protect US 255 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,310 citizens data seems to draw closer each day. I asked some 256 00:14:41,310 --> 00:14:43,980 people on the street what they would do if tick tock was 257 00:14:43,980 --> 00:14:44,400 banned. 258 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:48,600 I use it a lot like way too much. So I definitely cut down 259 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,720 my screen time which would be good. I'd probably just go to 260 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,760 Instagram, honestly or like a different app that comes up but 261 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,440 I probably just live my life 262 00:14:58,470 --> 00:15:02,460 go you know have I'll be sad because I do really love it 263 00:15:02,460 --> 00:15:04,950 like, I'm not gonna lie. It's kinda like entertaining. 264 00:15:05,009 --> 00:15:08,489 With Instagram, they have this thing called Instagram rails, 265 00:15:08,519 --> 00:15:11,609 which is like, essentially like tick tock. But the only 266 00:15:11,609 --> 00:15:15,089 difference is like, usually when I use like reels it's like not 267 00:15:15,089 --> 00:15:17,999 on purpose. Like I just click on one thing, and then I'm down 268 00:15:17,999 --> 00:15:21,089 this loophole. So it's like it traps you and for that, 269 00:15:21,659 --> 00:15:24,959 to start out with Chad GPT, for his answer was more extensive 270 00:15:24,959 --> 00:15:29,219 and detailed. Bart's answer was pretty basic, essentially said 271 00:15:29,219 --> 00:15:32,489 to switch platforms start a website or blog partner with 272 00:15:32,489 --> 00:15:36,239 creators and collaborate with brands, Bart gets points for 273 00:15:36,239 --> 00:15:40,529 also suggesting to use social media ads, which Chen GPT four 274 00:15:40,559 --> 00:15:44,639 didn't recommend, which had GPT four gave a few more answers. In 275 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:48,449 addition to Bard suggestions, first, backup your content, 276 00:15:48,689 --> 00:15:52,739 download and see your videos. Later content after contact does 277 00:15:52,739 --> 00:15:54,419 not focus on 278 00:15:55,229 --> 00:15:57,299 John C Dvorak: backup, you got to back this up a little bit. 279 00:15:57,299 --> 00:16:03,689 And this is a two guy. These things decided to try to copy 280 00:16:03,689 --> 00:16:06,779 you know, they had the real people say what they thought. 281 00:16:06,989 --> 00:16:09,869 And then they had they asked a question to the to two of these 282 00:16:10,139 --> 00:16:14,729 systems. And the one system says backup your content, start a 283 00:16:14,729 --> 00:16:19,889 blog. I mean, the only left out of this is learn to code. I 284 00:16:19,889 --> 00:16:25,529 mean, it's just a bunch of bullcrap bromides that didn't 285 00:16:25,529 --> 00:16:29,309 show me nothing. Exactly what you're saying. 286 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,770 Adam Curry: It's it's kind of weird that we're both on the 287 00:16:31,770 --> 00:16:35,970 same page with this one. Why? Well, it's not that's not the 288 00:16:35,970 --> 00:16:37,020 format of the show 289 00:16:38,730 --> 00:16:41,160 John C Dvorak: was the format of when we see something but this 290 00:16:41,190 --> 00:16:44,400 dog, we're supposed to argue. And besides that I have been 291 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:50,220 harping on this AI from cycle for the last 15 years. I mean, 292 00:16:50,220 --> 00:16:54,060 the cycle began in the 50s, I'll reiterate for people out there, 293 00:16:54,750 --> 00:16:57,810 the cycle began in the 50s, the mid 50s, who ended there were 294 00:16:57,810 --> 00:17:02,910 all these articles about the the electronic brain, and they would 295 00:17:02,910 --> 00:17:05,190 show all these computers and how they're going to take over 296 00:17:05,190 --> 00:17:07,440 everything and they're gonna eliminate jobs and the 297 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,100 electronic brain. Now they went on and on, it was kind of like 298 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:14,430 it wasn't AI quite, but then the AI thing came around around, 299 00:17:15,390 --> 00:17:16,560 what, 20 years, 300 00:17:16,589 --> 00:17:19,529 Adam Curry: 25 years remember, in the 70s, when you know when 301 00:17:19,529 --> 00:17:22,169 the integrated circuit chips chips is going to do it was 302 00:17:22,169 --> 00:17:25,049 going to say I don't remember the electronic brain part was 303 00:17:25,049 --> 00:17:27,179 going to the same thing. Because all 304 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,210 John C Dvorak: it took 25 years out you'd like Tronic brain came 305 00:17:30,210 --> 00:17:34,140 to the AI revolution. And this was the artificial intelligence, 306 00:17:34,890 --> 00:17:38,730 fourth generation, Japanese thing they're going to take 307 00:17:38,730 --> 00:17:43,080 over. And it was on and on and on with expert systems. As we 308 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,650 know, it's first showed up miniaturization and all these 309 00:17:46,650 --> 00:17:51,300 things. It's always that so all these things are going to and 310 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:55,470 then it just flopped. And then another 25 Years go by we got 311 00:17:55,470 --> 00:17:59,100 this again. And now we have this stuff. And it's the same thing. 312 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:02,310 And as and this shows how weak it is. You can finish the clip 313 00:18:02,310 --> 00:18:04,620 and you it's just lame. Now 314 00:18:04,620 --> 00:18:07,470 Unknown: Chad GPT, for his answer was more extensive and 315 00:18:07,470 --> 00:18:11,490 detailed. Bart's answer was pretty basic, essentially said 316 00:18:11,490 --> 00:18:14,760 to switch platforms start a website or blog partner with 317 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,510 creators and collaborate with brands. Bard gets points for 318 00:18:18,510 --> 00:18:22,290 also suggesting to use social media ads, which changed GPT 319 00:18:22,290 --> 00:18:26,250 four didn't recommend which had GPT four gave a few more 320 00:18:26,250 --> 00:18:30,120 answers. In addition to Bard suggestions. First, backup your 321 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:34,170 content, download and save your videos familiar. Adapt your 322 00:18:34,170 --> 00:18:37,620 content to different platforms and focus on building a brand. 323 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,640 Strengthen your personal brand by creating a unique style theme 324 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,670 or niche that sets you apart from other content creators. 325 00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:48,990 This simple test did seem to put shed GPT for in the number one 326 00:18:48,990 --> 00:18:49,350 spot. 327 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:54,210 Adam Curry: Wow, this is this is great. This is almost like back 328 00:18:54,210 --> 00:18:57,300 in the day in the early days of the web. You know, we'd be 329 00:18:57,330 --> 00:19:01,170 advising big companies. And they'd say yes, we want a viral 330 00:19:01,170 --> 00:19:03,360 video. No problem. We're gonna put that on the list. We'll 331 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:08,820 create a viral video for you. And I was like, use social media 332 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:15,900 ads. Oh, okay. What kind of test is this? Even? I'm amazed how 333 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:19,470 many people don't understand that the human brain will will 334 00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:25,290 evolve much faster than this. Everything chat GPT 456789 10 335 00:19:25,290 --> 00:19:30,270 Does will go faster. It was I'm sure Yeah. Okay. If I'm looking 336 00:19:30,270 --> 00:19:32,160 John C Dvorak: at somebody, somebody may stop you there. But 337 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,090 I want to point out a interesting phenomenon by the 338 00:19:36,090 --> 00:19:41,340 human brain about how movies have adjusted our people have 339 00:19:41,340 --> 00:19:47,070 adjusted to the jump cut. Oh, yeah. Oh, which never existed 50 340 00:19:47,070 --> 00:19:51,180 years ago. They didn't exist. People would could not deal with 341 00:19:51,180 --> 00:19:54,000 something like that. And then they, they it wasn't even an 342 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,250 evolution. They just started to show up and the next thing you 343 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:59,970 know we all went okay, I get it. And then you can follow it. They 344 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,810 these things can't even they can barely answer the question about 345 00:20:03,810 --> 00:20:07,110 tick tock, which was what was presented to me here without 346 00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:11,520 saying stupid stuff like backup, backup your hard disk, you know? 347 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,040 Okay, well, gee, thanks for the good advice. 348 00:20:14,370 --> 00:20:17,430 Adam Curry: What is the one thing that is the DeVore AK test 349 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:21,000 for online systems? What is the one thing that as long as I've 350 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,380 known you, for 15 years, the one thing you always just wanted to 351 00:20:25,410 --> 00:20:28,380 get out of the internet? The one piece of advice, 352 00:20:28,890 --> 00:20:33,150 John C Dvorak: actually, let me says 9320 years. 353 00:20:33,450 --> 00:20:34,470 Adam Curry: 30 years, we'll be 354 00:20:34,980 --> 00:20:37,110 John C Dvorak: working for the media for two years before we 355 00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:39,030 started this podcast. That's right. Yeah, 356 00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:41,760 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yeah. 34 back to CNET days. You're right. 357 00:20:41,910 --> 00:20:45,090 All right. What what is what is the number one question, you 358 00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:45,990 know, the question, 359 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,890 John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, I wasn't, I was so upset by your 360 00:20:49,890 --> 00:20:51,420 15 year thing that it's just 361 00:20:51,450 --> 00:20:54,030 Adam Curry: what is the best? What is the best weedwacker 362 00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:55,350 that's all you really want. 363 00:20:55,710 --> 00:20:58,260 John C Dvorak: The best. Okay, yeah, I've been doing this for 364 00:20:58,260 --> 00:21:03,570 at least 20 years minimum. I have been asking, what's the 365 00:21:03,570 --> 00:21:06,780 best weed whacker? And it's impossible to get the answer. 366 00:21:06,810 --> 00:21:08,640 Here's the possible here's the 367 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,120 Adam Curry: answer from Chad GPT. Of course, disclaimer as an 368 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:14,520 AI language model, I don't have personal preferences or 369 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,340 experiences with using weed whackers. Right there, who 370 00:21:17,340 --> 00:21:20,730 cares? Boom, however, they're done. However, there are many 371 00:21:20,730 --> 00:21:22,830 popular and highly rated weed whackers available on the 372 00:21:22,830 --> 00:21:25,350 market. And the best one for you will depend on your specific 373 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:29,280 needs and preferences. Okay, so we may need to query a little 374 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,850 bit further. Some factors to consider when choosing a weed 375 00:21:32,850 --> 00:21:35,580 whacker include the size and type of your lawn or yard, the 376 00:21:35,580 --> 00:21:38,730 type of weeds you need to tackle the power source you prefer 377 00:21:38,730 --> 00:21:41,370 electric battery or gas and the features you want. It's 378 00:21:41,370 --> 00:21:43,560 adjustable height or pivoting heads. 379 00:21:45,870 --> 00:21:47,070 John C Dvorak: But it's not answering me. 380 00:21:47,550 --> 00:21:49,140 Adam Curry: Of course, it's not answering your question. Of 381 00:21:49,140 --> 00:21:53,700 course not. Of course not. I was surprised there is 382 00:21:53,910 --> 00:21:57,750 John C Dvorak: a weedwacker. Despite all these details of 383 00:21:57,750 --> 00:22:01,320 this thing brought up that is the best. It's like there's the 384 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,140 best doctor. Yeah, yeah. 385 00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:08,370 Adam Curry: Well, here's, this was very disappointing, because 386 00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:11,760 I usually hold this guy in pretty high regard. I did not 387 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,060 know he's a Fox News contributor, Douglas Murray. 388 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:19,140 Douglas Murray, who is one of the is Harold is one of the 389 00:22:19,170 --> 00:22:21,720 intellectual giants of our time. 390 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,020 John C Dvorak: Okay, well, it's funny to me, because I don't 391 00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:26,160 know who you're talking about how 392 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,700 Adam Curry: you do. He's the British guy. He loves America. 393 00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:33,240 And he's written several books about how we're losing our 394 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,680 freedom. You don't know Douglas Murray? 395 00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:38,700 John C Dvorak: No. I mean, I mean, if I saw him visually, let 396 00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:41,310 me look him up as fake and recognize him. Yeah, I might 397 00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:41,940 know him. I think 398 00:22:41,969 --> 00:22:45,089 Adam Curry: you probably he's, he wrote me see what was his 399 00:22:45,089 --> 00:22:52,379 famous book. Nobody's neoconservatism why we need it. 400 00:22:54,209 --> 00:22:57,419 The madness, the madness of crowds. The madness of crowds, I 401 00:22:57,419 --> 00:22:59,999 think was the big one. Oh, the strange death of Europe. We've 402 00:22:59,999 --> 00:23:02,489 talked about him in that context of strange death of Europe, 403 00:23:02,579 --> 00:23:07,049 immigration identity Islam. Okay, well, you don't remember. 404 00:23:07,049 --> 00:23:09,239 But we have talked about we've played clips of him looking at 405 00:23:09,239 --> 00:23:14,309 him now. So he's a Fox News contributor. And he, and he's 406 00:23:14,309 --> 00:23:17,459 going to weigh in on this extraordinary moment in our 407 00:23:17,459 --> 00:23:21,689 history, extraordinary moment, when we have to pause AI. Some 408 00:23:21,689 --> 00:23:24,329 of the smartest people in the world are calling for this. It's 409 00:23:24,329 --> 00:23:26,189 an extraordinary letter, I have to say, 410 00:23:27,210 --> 00:23:29,790 Unknown: oh, like him already. 411 00:23:31,380 --> 00:23:32,880 Adam Curry: I'm gonna force you to listen to him. 412 00:23:32,910 --> 00:23:36,300 Unknown: It's an extraordinary letter, I have to say, pretty 413 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:38,880 much unprecedented. I mean, these are people at the absolute 414 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,940 forefront of the technology we're talking about, who are 415 00:23:41,940 --> 00:23:45,600 expressing deep concern. I mean, to call for a six month 416 00:23:45,810 --> 00:23:50,070 moratorium, basically on further advancements in the area 417 00:23:50,610 --> 00:23:54,420 suggests that there's they're deeply worried about this. I 418 00:23:54,420 --> 00:24:00,270 mean, this this has been coming on us for 25 years now. So that 419 00:24:00,270 --> 00:24:05,430 much of a surprise, the ability of effectively the computers to 420 00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:10,020 go faster than we can go on the treadmill. The treadmill of 421 00:24:10,050 --> 00:24:11,700 technology is running fast. 422 00:24:11,790 --> 00:24:15,480 Adam Curry: What kind of analogy is that? The the treadmill of 423 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,380 technology, 424 00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:21,600 Unknown: the computers to go faster than we can go on the 425 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,140 treadmill? 426 00:24:22,170 --> 00:24:24,990 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know. It's the problem. He's he's come 427 00:24:24,990 --> 00:24:31,140 up with a metaphor kind of which is indicating that you're going 428 00:24:31,140 --> 00:24:31,830 nowhere. 429 00:24:32,970 --> 00:24:34,800 Unknown: You're running fast, but you're not going 430 00:24:35,790 --> 00:24:37,890 John C Dvorak: fast that computers running fast. And both 431 00:24:37,890 --> 00:24:40,140 of you no way. No way. I like 432 00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:43,710 Unknown: that actually have effectively the computers to go 433 00:24:43,710 --> 00:24:48,120 faster than we can go on the treadmill. The treadmill of 434 00:24:48,150 --> 00:24:52,230 technology is running faster than we humans can run. We've 435 00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:55,260 known this for a long time. But the fact that there has now been 436 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:59,340 this, this stressing that, that we're you know we can be in 437 00:24:59,340 --> 00:25:03,540 trouble They don't know what he's capable of. I mean, to call 438 00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:07,800 for a six month sort of ban on this, I think it's quite 439 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,890 extraordinary. We've known we've known for about a quarter of a 440 00:25:10,890 --> 00:25:15,120 century now that this is coming. It actually comes from the 90s, 441 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:19,830 when Kasparov, the great chess champion, was beat to New York 442 00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:24,000 City exactly was was was beaten by the computer. And he said, 443 00:25:24,030 --> 00:25:27,540 Then he said, he said the movie in his notes, he said, The worry 444 00:25:27,540 --> 00:25:30,750 I have is that the computer isn't calculating, it's 445 00:25:30,750 --> 00:25:35,640 thinking, we are 25 years on from from that now. pewters are 446 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,210 thinking 447 00:25:36,510 --> 00:25:38,460 Adam Curry: that and so I'm gonna just stop them there. 448 00:25:38,490 --> 00:25:41,670 John C Dvorak: Hey, what is this? This is bull crap 449 00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:43,860 computers not thinking correct, 450 00:25:43,890 --> 00:25:46,650 Adam Curry: the computer is merely making a probability 451 00:25:46,650 --> 00:25:50,730 calculation, which you know, the closer it is to zero, there'll 452 00:25:50,730 --> 00:25:55,170 be point six, point 4.3, which is how the original and how 453 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,960 chess computers still work today. And in fact, is the same 454 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:03,510 way that so called AI is used in determining what tweets to get 455 00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:07,980 rid of. It's based upon the large language model. And it's 456 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:14,280 always consistently wrong. It's consistently wrong. AI is not in 457 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,300 the field in the field in applications used to protect the 458 00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:23,850 children. It's, it's consistently wrong. Now, and so 459 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,840 it is, as far as I understand, it's still the exact same basic 460 00:26:27,870 --> 00:26:32,490 idea of chess computers, that is computation. chess players 461 00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:35,790 compute the probability they you know, that's what they're doing. 462 00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:38,100 They're computing as far ahead as they can. And that's, you 463 00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:42,000 know, you've trained your brain to do that. And, yes, a computer 464 00:26:42,030 --> 00:26:45,090 is probably going to be better at mathematics. That's not the 465 00:26:45,090 --> 00:26:47,550 same as thinking. Douglas Murray. 466 00:26:47,610 --> 00:26:51,330 Unknown: And he said, Then he said, he said, his notes he 467 00:26:51,330 --> 00:26:54,900 said, The worry I have is that the computer isn't calculating 468 00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:59,220 its thinking. We are 25 years on from from that now. And the 469 00:26:59,220 --> 00:27:04,080 computers. Can you imagine? The Internet has revolutionized our 470 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,760 lives in so many ways. It's like the printing press in the Middle 471 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,480 Ages. We don't know what the consequences are going to be. 472 00:27:12,510 --> 00:27:14,640 And we are currently living through an era where it's 473 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,640 printing press after printing press is being discovered 474 00:27:18,030 --> 00:27:18,990 underneath, right. 475 00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:21,390 And those it's just so important for everyone to know these are 476 00:27:21,390 --> 00:27:24,930 the smartest people amongst us who are demanding a global 477 00:27:24,930 --> 00:27:30,180 pause. Not a arbitrary senator from a state this is this is for 478 00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:33,480 real. And look at some of these people from Steve Wozniak, co 479 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,070 founder of Apple to Elon Musk. Andrew Yang here and Jamie 480 00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:38,670 Bezos. 481 00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:40,590 Adam Curry: Yes. It's just extraordinary. Some of the 482 00:27:40,590 --> 00:27:44,100 smartest people amongst us, Steve Wozniak and Andrew Yang, 483 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,590 some of the smartest so that's just 484 00:27:46,620 --> 00:27:48,570 John C Dvorak: never mentioned. I haven't heard any. Andrew 485 00:27:48,570 --> 00:27:51,690 Yang's mentioned he just meant to keep saying Wozniak and must 486 00:27:51,690 --> 00:27:55,980 was he just mentioned it. You talked over it? Well, he Andrew 487 00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:58,170 Yang. Yeah, he's just a politician. One 488 00:27:58,170 --> 00:28:02,850 Adam Curry: of the smartest and he even look, this is the new 489 00:28:03,930 --> 00:28:07,230 idol. The new false idol. This is the new science. We've had 490 00:28:07,230 --> 00:28:09,930 signs signs getting old. Follow the signs. Now if you follow the 491 00:28:09,930 --> 00:28:15,630 AI, this is elevating by the actual promoters of crap. You 492 00:28:15,630 --> 00:28:20,160 know, I can't spell. Wozniak, he promoted the Segway. That was 493 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,360 gonna change. Cities will change. We will never live in a 494 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:30,330 city the same way again. Remember that? Tomi, remember 495 00:28:30,330 --> 00:28:30,630 that? 496 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,630 John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I remember I wrote a long column 497 00:28:33,630 --> 00:28:38,280 about it in Forbes magazine. Because I had the access to the 498 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,150 patents before there was actually released. And we me and 499 00:28:42,150 --> 00:28:44,550 pulse Paul Sappho gave me real information 500 00:28:44,550 --> 00:28:46,350 Adam Curry: you had you had access to the patents before it 501 00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:47,670 was in Renault, it 502 00:28:47,670 --> 00:28:50,370 John C Dvorak: was just a patent came out Paul Sappho identified 503 00:28:50,370 --> 00:28:55,260 it for some reason identify such sought out me to say with 504 00:28:55,350 --> 00:29:00,150 pictures of the various devices saying look at this bull crap. 505 00:29:00,450 --> 00:29:04,860 What do you make of it and I then I obviously followed up 506 00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:08,310 with it with a column and had a follow up column after the thing 507 00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:10,950 came out with all these people saying stuff like what you just 508 00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:14,010 said was you know it's going to cities cities will have to be 509 00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:20,340 redesigned to accommodate Yes. To accommodate this thing is a 510 00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:23,730 stand up scooter that balances itself I don't see it as 511 00:29:23,730 --> 00:29:26,460 anything more than that. And it was dangerous 512 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,690 Adam Curry: for the CEO of the company, drove off the cliff and 513 00:29:30,690 --> 00:29:31,140 died. 514 00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:35,700 John C Dvorak: Yes, I've in fact that forgot about that sad 515 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,280 ending. That ending to the to the Segway. Driving off a cliff 516 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,060 on the thing. There's a there's a there's a mutual Liberty 517 00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:49,680 Mutual whatever it is Liberty Liberty commercial, where where 518 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,060 there were a guide drives the segway into the into the pit and 519 00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:56,430 shoots kind of a barrier and goes into the drink. 520 00:29:56,490 --> 00:29:59,640 Adam Curry: And it was not the not the inventor as many people 521 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,210 thinking No 522 00:30:00,210 --> 00:30:02,400 John C Dvorak: no the vendor was given vendor was I can't 523 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,640 remember his name but didn't vendor was interesting. 524 00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:08,700 Adam Curry: We there so let's just say currently there's no 525 00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:14,040 evidence AI is thinking, but this elevates it with all this 526 00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:18,480 this outrage and Oh, panic, panic, panic, panic yeah this, 527 00:30:18,570 --> 00:30:23,550 this elevates it to to that kind of level and now of course it 528 00:30:23,550 --> 00:30:28,140 has our attention and and the whole idea is to replace the old 529 00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:33,630 and tired science, all the science to have aI tell us about 530 00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:38,100 I don't know climate change fake meats, all these important it's 531 00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:41,250 digital dementia, digital dementia is what is being 532 00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:42,090 introduced to the 533 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:45,150 John C Dvorak: populace. Now I like it digital dementia. Yes, I 534 00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:48,870 Adam Curry: wrote that down myself, did you? I did. So 535 00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:52,350 Stanford, Stanford had this bit, you know, two weeks ago off the 536 00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:57,480 owl pocket AI model. And it only cost $600 Not 5 million out 537 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,720 pakka alpaca. And we were releasing the code, open code 538 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,350 open source, go to GitHub, get the alpaca AI model, and then 539 00:31:04,350 --> 00:31:08,070 they had to take it down because it was kind of dangerous. It 540 00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:11,910 does something that they call an AI land hallucinating. Yeah, of 541 00:31:11,910 --> 00:31:18,840 course. I mean, to get stuff wrong, very wrong. And yeah, 542 00:31:19,050 --> 00:31:23,970 okay. You can probably say write a script for me using rust, 543 00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:28,710 which is really handy. And it can. Yeah, and but that's not 544 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:33,630 thinking that's, that's going to Stack Overflow and scraping the 545 00:31:33,630 --> 00:31:38,940 site and putting stuff together. And since it uses language, 546 00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:42,180 which is, you know, deterministic of what word would 547 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:44,520 come after this word, your code is going to be pretty good for 548 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:44,940 that. 549 00:31:45,510 --> 00:31:47,670 John C Dvorak: But I was watching something on 550 00:31:47,670 --> 00:31:52,530 television. And I was just in mind. And I realized that 551 00:31:53,010 --> 00:31:57,150 today's news broadcasts with the news readers can all be 552 00:31:57,150 --> 00:32:00,960 replaced. And that's the real threat and that so the news 553 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,100 media has to sense at least in some way, but deep down inside 554 00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:07,800 that they are the ones that are being threatened. Well, of 555 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,470 course, because they're no good anyway, they're not doing any 556 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:12,270 news reporting. 557 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:14,220 Adam Curry: While they've already. They've already been 558 00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:17,730 replaced to a certain audio. Certainly, I mean, we hear lots 559 00:32:17,730 --> 00:32:22,680 of tech, you know, I will say AI read news reports and videos 560 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,050 that are created with fake voices. Okay. Yeah, 561 00:32:25,050 --> 00:32:27,120 John C Dvorak: I think and I think that that's, you know, 562 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,850 because that first woman that was in that series, Eclipse goes 563 00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:35,340 on to this 300 million jobs are going to be lost. And it was an 564 00:32:35,340 --> 00:32:38,040 unknown and unknown thing. What jobs are going to be lost by 565 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,390 this? Well, I think rewriting press releases so you can read 566 00:32:42,390 --> 00:32:47,040 them on, you know, KR O N TV. Yeah, on the nightly news. Oh, 567 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,000 that's a job. Just one job that could go get shoved a press 568 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,500 release into the machine. It reads it reads jiggers it and 569 00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:58,920 gives you some copies and some decent news copy to read. 570 00:32:58,950 --> 00:33:01,800 Adam Curry: Well just go and look at CNBC the website, how 571 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:07,230 many times you know, like, they have some rudimentary form, 572 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,780 maybe even advanced, I don't know if AI writing their 573 00:33:09,780 --> 00:33:13,020 headlines I'm selecting. So the Dow was up you got a picture 574 00:33:13,170 --> 00:33:16,410 traders happy and you see these guys. Yay, you know, like buy 575 00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:19,440 beautiful. And then when the Dow was down, they got loose Froning 576 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,160 food faces route. That's all AI driven. So yeah, I'm sure that's 577 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,820 gonna work. But there's nothing to be worried about. Humans are 578 00:33:26,850 --> 00:33:31,110 always going to outsmart this technology and go outside and go 579 00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:34,260 without your phone and sniff some air instead of sniffing 580 00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:40,110 farts from the mainstream media is just so stupid. And but it is 581 00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:45,930 an idolization of technology. And that is definitely a mission 582 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,900 of the singularity folk. Which I'm sure Musk is a part of. And 583 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:54,150 I was like, Whoa, you know, I'm gonna integrate 584 00:33:55,650 --> 00:33:56,850 John C Dvorak: cancer say this true. 585 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,780 Adam Curry: What that the singularity 586 00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:03,000 John C Dvorak: folk. I'm not sure Musk is part of that club. 587 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,540 Is it pretty? 588 00:34:04,020 --> 00:34:06,090 Adam Curry: Rolling? Have you seen neuro link? 589 00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:09,840 John C Dvorak: Where they you know, some of this stuff he does 590 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,310 is just cool with people that want to take it seriously. They 591 00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:16,200 just, he's a joker. 592 00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:22,320 Adam Curry: Yes, he is a joker. He is a joker. And and if I just 593 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,000 might add when it comes to politicians and this stuff. I 594 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,550 mean, most people are stupid. I'm stupid. You're pretty 595 00:34:29,550 --> 00:34:32,520 stupid. We're all stupid. But the people who we elect and the 596 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,090 people who appoint people, the elected people who appoint 597 00:34:36,090 --> 00:34:39,900 people they appoint very stupid people. We heard this with with 598 00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:43,920 Fifi Lagarde, she's done. She did not brilliant, and he's 599 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,420 smarter than anybody else. And I just like to transition to tick 600 00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:50,520 tock for a second so we can discuss this before we get to 601 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,740 the horrible shooting in Nashville, which we will 602 00:34:52,740 --> 00:35:00,000 discuss. So we have the everyone's all Patriot Act 2.0 603 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:08,550 Oh, yeah, tick tock, we gotta get rid of tick tock. Ah, let's 604 00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:11,550 listen to the stupidest person we have currently in the Senate, 605 00:35:11,730 --> 00:35:15,390 Lindsey Graham. So Lindsey Graham is so stupid. When it 606 00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:19,200 comes to this bill, we're talking about Senate Bill 686, 607 00:35:19,260 --> 00:35:22,740 which is a Senate bill doesn't mean that this passes is law 608 00:35:22,860 --> 00:35:25,830 that has to be a house version, there has to be consolidation 609 00:35:25,830 --> 00:35:29,010 have to agree on it. And then of course, whatever it is, you 610 00:35:29,010 --> 00:35:33,510 know, braindead Biden will will sign it, no problem. But it's 611 00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:36,660 not that simple. There's a couple other things out. It's 612 00:35:36,660 --> 00:35:40,290 also that's also, this is almost a red herring as far as I'm 613 00:35:40,290 --> 00:35:44,550 concerned. But Graham thinks he's going on the safe Fox News 614 00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:49,860 to discuss this, this restrict act. And firstly, it goes on 615 00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:53,010 with Jesse waters. Another person I think is pretty stupid. 616 00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:58,140 Sorry, nice guy. Nice guy. But it runs on outrage and yelling, 617 00:35:58,140 --> 00:36:03,060 and I'm waters, this is my world, okay. And he gets trapped 618 00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:06,870 right away. Why? Because, like most politicians, he only 619 00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:10,410 listened to his advisor, and the advisor was probably a lobbyist. 620 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:14,550 Maybe it's just some intern. He didn't read any of this. It's 621 00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:17,640 also not a simple bill to read. There's a lot of legalese in 622 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,330 there and referrals to other things. But he was all in on it. 623 00:36:21,330 --> 00:36:22,740 And but he didn't know it. 624 00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:24,690 Unknown: Let's try to get some answers out of the Senator 625 00:36:24,690 --> 00:36:29,070 Lindsey Graham, who supports this, and is here now you got to 626 00:36:29,070 --> 00:36:31,110 be kidding me. Senator, did you read this? 627 00:36:31,649 --> 00:36:33,929 Yeah, I don't think I support the Restrict bag. 628 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,860 You don't support this because you are named as one of the 629 00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:39,990 supporters cuz this is garbage. 630 00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:43,740 Is this the one with John, there's two bills out there. One 631 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:49,620 allows a review of businesses that that are connected to China 632 00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:53,700 give the Secretary the ability to protect our data. Is that the 633 00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:54,750 Restrict act? 634 00:36:55,230 --> 00:37:04,470 We got Yes, s EDS. 86. Right here, march 7. And we got a 635 00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:08,490 bunch of Republicans supporting it. Because this thing is crazy 636 00:37:08,490 --> 00:37:11,040 town. You don't want the government looking into your 637 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,700 private phone? No, I don't have a hunch you're colluding with 638 00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:16,770 the Russians. We remember how that turned out. 639 00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:21,300 Yeah, no. Well, the Constitution Trump's a statute. So let me 640 00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:25,170 come back and, you know, give you a better explanation. Here's 641 00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:29,460 the problem as I see it. China is the parent company of Tiktok. 642 00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:32,280 And my niece is light Tiktok. I don't mind the Muse and tick 643 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,100 tock, I just don't want the Chinese government to seize all 644 00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:39,120 their data and manipulate the information America sees for 645 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,320 political purposes. China's helping drug cartels in Mexico. 646 00:37:43,530 --> 00:37:47,160 China is not a friend to Chinese espionage is an all time high 647 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,680 against American business interests. So I want to push 648 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,040 back against China, but within a constitutional framework, you're 649 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:58,470 right about that. So you made these allegations? And I'll come 650 00:37:58,470 --> 00:38:00,180 answer better next time. 651 00:38:00,210 --> 00:38:02,820 I will. I mean, because on Congress. Gov, you're listed as 652 00:38:02,820 --> 00:38:05,790 one of the co sponsors of this thing. Maybe it's like Fetterman 653 00:38:05,790 --> 00:38:09,600 when your chief of staff saw your work for you? And even 654 00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:12,060 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, could be could be. Yeah, because my staff 655 00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:19,140 did that. I mean, honestly, AI would out with that guy. But so 656 00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:22,380 they're stupid. And none of them actually have read the bill. 657 00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:24,660 They don't really know what's in it. I think it's a red herring, 658 00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:27,510 because what's really going on, he has all the executive orders. 659 00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:33,900 And the Biden administration National Cybersecurity strategy, 660 00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:37,500 which no one is talking about. This is this is the real crap 661 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:42,390 that's going on. And I think this is just a distraction, this 662 00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:45,480 will never pass. It's so obvious, although it's only 663 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,930 limited to certain countries they can add to it. And this is, 664 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,290 if this passes, then we're all stupid. We all should go shoot 665 00:38:52,290 --> 00:38:55,230 ourselves because this is dumb. This is the dumbest thing we 666 00:38:55,230 --> 00:38:58,560 could ever do. Everyone's onto it. But we're not looking what's 667 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,180 really being put out there with executive orders, etc. From the 668 00:39:03,810 --> 00:39:06,780 National Cybersecurity strategy, we must rebalance the 669 00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:09,450 responsibility to defend cyberspace by shifting the 670 00:39:09,450 --> 00:39:12,630 burden to cybersecurity away from individuals, small 671 00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:15,810 businesses and local governments and onto the organizations that 672 00:39:15,810 --> 00:39:19,110 are most capable and best positioned to reduce risks for 673 00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:22,860 all of us. The National Cybersecurity strategy aligns 674 00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:26,700 with supports and works in concert with a total US 675 00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:29,970 surveillance system where definitions of information are 676 00:39:29,970 --> 00:39:33,720 then apply to cybersecurity and communication vectors. This 677 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:37,980 policy is a surveillance system and he's got executive orders up 678 00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:41,190 the wazoo that are already being put into place. This is CES. 679 00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:45,630 This is all this stuff. We're all arguing about the wrong 680 00:39:45,660 --> 00:39:50,010 thing here. And the net is just being tightened over and over 681 00:39:50,010 --> 00:39:54,510 again. So none of these senators know what they're talking about. 682 00:39:54,510 --> 00:39:58,080 They don't understand what's going on, and it's still 683 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,170 protection for the existing view. Wes technology companies? 684 00:40:01,170 --> 00:40:03,780 Oh, yeah. Let's make sure we have something to ban everybody 685 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,570 to ban everybody else. Because, you know, we don't like what 686 00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:12,000 tick tock did, and Rubio gave it away. He did his own special 687 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,490 little little press conference 17 minutes, two days ago, put it 688 00:40:17,490 --> 00:40:20,340 out on YouTube couldn't put it on Tiktok Oh, because you know, 689 00:40:20,370 --> 00:40:23,100 they might edit it and make it look weird. And I pulled two 690 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:27,090 clips, and it shows you exactly how dumb and how misguided this 691 00:40:27,090 --> 00:40:33,720 guy is, and how compromised he is. This is this is how his his 692 00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:37,470 understanding of the American people how stupid we are. 693 00:40:37,740 --> 00:40:39,570 Unknown: So let me walk you through a very realistic 694 00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:40,260 hypothetical. 695 00:40:40,980 --> 00:40:43,830 Adam Curry: Let's suppose a very realistic hypothetical. 696 00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:46,860 Unknown: So let me walk you through a very realistic 697 00:40:46,860 --> 00:40:50,670 hypothetical. Let's suppose for a moment that China decides 698 00:40:50,670 --> 00:40:56,760 they're going to invade Taiwan, and 2027 20/28. And the key to a 699 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,850 successful invasion or taking of Taiwan is to prevent the United 700 00:40:59,850 --> 00:41:01,620 States of America from getting involved. 701 00:41:02,069 --> 00:41:05,159 Adam Curry: First of all, he's just presuming that anyone gives 702 00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:09,809 a crap. All I mean, do we really care? Do we do the Americans 703 00:41:09,809 --> 00:41:12,869 really care what China does with Taiwan? Are we being told to 704 00:41:12,869 --> 00:41:15,689 care? I'm asking you, John, what do you mean, do you care? 705 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:19,410 John C Dvorak: We're being told to care. Okay. I mean, I kind of 706 00:41:19,410 --> 00:41:22,440 care I haven't been to both places and I like Taiwan the way 707 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,390 it is, but do I really care if Taiwan is overrun by the 708 00:41:27,390 --> 00:41:30,780 Chinese? Are they are they grab it back? How about the Taiwanese 709 00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:35,340 grabbing back? China? Yeah. I mean, that's gonna happen. In 710 00:41:35,340 --> 00:41:41,430 fact, in fact, when when I was in jammin Sherman China, on the 711 00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:44,160 coast, which is across from the Thai is on the same streets, 712 00:41:44,490 --> 00:41:50,370 across from the, from Taiwan, on the mainland, and there's a 713 00:41:50,370 --> 00:41:54,360 bunch of these bunkers that are all over the place. They're 714 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,600 still there. They're from like World War Two. And the guy 715 00:41:57,630 --> 00:42:00,960 taking me around the area was I said, What the hell are these? 716 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,920 He says, Oh, this was the Chinese Communist Party after 717 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:10,200 they they rousted the Republic of China people and got him to 718 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,660 move to Taiwan had to set up shop here, because they thought 719 00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:13,800 they were going to reinvade. 720 00:42:15,780 --> 00:42:19,680 Adam Curry: And so that could still happen, right? But the 721 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,800 story is, well, you know, there's so many chips, and it's 722 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,430 all coming onto computers. Do you? Does anyone really think 723 00:42:26,430 --> 00:42:30,510 that China won't want to sell us computers? Even if they overrun 724 00:42:30,510 --> 00:42:33,930 Taiwan, what's their market? We are their market, we are their 725 00:42:33,930 --> 00:42:37,860 market, and we put the chips act in place. So we can probably try 726 00:42:37,860 --> 00:42:41,160 and make our own. Not very cost effective, 727 00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:44,760 John C Dvorak: but have been shown already to be a flop. 728 00:42:45,570 --> 00:42:49,260 Adam Curry: Okay, so let's go back to the genius Marco Rubio, 729 00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:53,730 who I am convinced is completely compromised in this by 730 00:42:53,970 --> 00:42:55,080 lobbyists. And the 731 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,730 Unknown: key to keeping the United States from getting 732 00:42:56,730 --> 00:43:00,690 involved is to convince the American people, okay, that we 733 00:43:00,690 --> 00:43:03,060 shouldn't get involved because they know we're a democracy. 734 00:43:03,330 --> 00:43:05,370 They know that public opinion matters in America. 735 00:43:05,490 --> 00:43:09,030 Adam Curry: Oh, you just like Ukraine. Like it really matters. 736 00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:11,550 Now. We really care not where do we stop caring. 737 00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:14,010 Unknown: And so knowing all this, the Chinese government 738 00:43:14,010 --> 00:43:16,920 goes to bite dance who by law has to do whatever they're told. 739 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,160 And the Chinese government says to bytedance, we want you to 740 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,700 align your algorithm to shape American public opinion on 741 00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:26,250 Taiwan. They won't do this overnight. It'll be the lead. 742 00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:29,100 Don't spend a couple of years laying this out. We 743 00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:32,280 Adam Curry: don't need a bite dance tic tock algorithm. All we 744 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,850 need is Deborah Birx to show videos, and everyone will 745 00:43:35,850 --> 00:43:38,670 believe it. Well, look at these people that China they're 746 00:43:38,670 --> 00:43:42,000 falling down from COVID, they're dying. You didn't need any 747 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,150 algos. For that you just needed the officials to talk about it. 748 00:43:45,690 --> 00:43:49,080 Unknown: We want you to align your algorithm to make sure that 749 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,500 people in America are seeing messages that convinced them 750 00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:54,960 that America should not get involved. And not only that, we 751 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,860 want you to use the data to target specific American 752 00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:01,950 audiences with specific messages. So for example, some 753 00:44:01,950 --> 00:44:05,910 Americans might see a bunch of videos that are alleged to show 754 00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:08,490 people in Taiwan probably fake but nonetheless, people in 755 00:44:08,490 --> 00:44:11,460 Taiwan supporting a Chinese takeover. 756 00:44:13,980 --> 00:44:16,950 Adam Curry: Like China take me over. Oh, that seems pretty 757 00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:17,670 religious. The 758 00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:20,070 John C Dvorak: funny thing about this, we always had to remember 759 00:44:20,580 --> 00:44:25,380 people watched the videos that they find entertaining. Yes. I'm 760 00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:29,010 seeing a bunch of stuff about Taiwan gone, we're gone. I'm 761 00:44:29,010 --> 00:44:31,950 just clicking off and going someplace else. I'm not gonna 762 00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:36,390 watch that. It's not entertaining. Bring back who's 763 00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:40,800 ever looked at tick tock, I've looked at tick tock. I also look 764 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,980 at the real thing, that thing that Instagram does, which can 765 00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:46,980 be quite good. And I'll sit there and watch it for a while 766 00:44:47,070 --> 00:44:50,370 because it's like watching television, but short gags and 767 00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:54,600 bits and dogs. And it's really crazy stuff and a guy shooting a 768 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,180 basketball from across the street and all that kind of 769 00:44:57,180 --> 00:45:00,480 thing. Yeah, it's not a it's not a bunch of political After 770 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,990 trying to convince me one thing or another, if I see that I, oh, 771 00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:05,400 finally I can stop. 772 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,790 Unknown: Maybe family members. Remember, they have all this 773 00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:13,680 data on us, family members of military members. Oh, see videos 774 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,390 about how 1000s of Americans will die. If the United States 775 00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:22,500 gets involved. Others might see videos of Americans 776 00:45:22,530 --> 00:45:24,690 Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. You know, if I see 777 00:45:24,690 --> 00:45:28,530 videos about how maybe 1000s of Americans will die, which could 778 00:45:28,530 --> 00:45:33,480 be very true service members, if we start meddling around, if you 779 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,110 do an entertaining way, and a cat is telling me, I might say, 780 00:45:37,110 --> 00:45:40,590 hey, let's not do that. But come on Rubio 781 00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:44,880 Unknown: would see videos about how 1000s of Americans will die. 782 00:45:45,390 --> 00:45:49,260 If the United States gets involved. Others might see 783 00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:55,080 videos of Americans what they think are Americans arguing, why 784 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,120 do we care about Taiwan? We should be focused on our 785 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,110 problems here at home. 786 00:45:58,260 --> 00:46:00,840 Adam Curry: Yeah, this is what we're saying about Ukraine right 787 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,050 now. And you're suppressing those messages. Yes, you are 788 00:46:04,050 --> 00:46:07,680 suppressing those messages. You are ignoring the American people 789 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,990 when it comes to that we're all saying that, hey, you know, we 790 00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:12,540 got problems here. We got homelessness, we got shitty 791 00:46:12,540 --> 00:46:15,900 education, we want to concentrate at home. All the 792 00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:18,540 money you send to Ukraine could be we could have every homeless 793 00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:21,750 person could have a tiny home, any anything but what you're 794 00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:25,620 doing now, but here it comes. Here's the part where he admits 795 00:46:25,980 --> 00:46:32,430 that tick tock is just kicking American, big Tex ass. And he's 796 00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:35,400 going and he's going to admit this. And he's going to use this 797 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,350 as a reason to ban tick tock, only in a typical Rubio 798 00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:41,370 politician way. 799 00:46:41,970 --> 00:46:44,010 Unknown: And when we notice that they're doing something about 800 00:46:44,010 --> 00:46:46,080 it, that's what people say, Well, if that happens, then you 801 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,000 deal with it. Well, once we notice that they're actually 802 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,250 doing and we try to do something about it. You know, what comes 803 00:46:50,250 --> 00:46:53,460 next? Here's what comes next. already happening now. You're 804 00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:56,130 gonna have a bunch of small businesses in America who depend 805 00:46:56,130 --> 00:46:58,680 on marketing and Tik Tok. And I don't let me tell you something, 806 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,710 I don't I don't diminish that. It's true. I know people that 807 00:47:01,710 --> 00:47:03,630 have built up their businesses, and they use tick tock for 808 00:47:03,630 --> 00:47:06,360 marketing, and it works. It's better than the other apps to 809 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:06,660 that. 810 00:47:09,330 --> 00:47:12,060 Adam Curry: It's better than the other apps for marketing for 811 00:47:12,060 --> 00:47:13,710 small businesses. Oh, man, 812 00:47:13,950 --> 00:47:16,380 John C Dvorak: I was at one of the sales guys at tick tock 813 00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:17,910 clipping that 814 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:20,070 Unknown: let me tell you something, I don't I don't 815 00:47:20,070 --> 00:47:23,040 diminish that it's true. I know people that have built up their 816 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,990 businesses, and they use tick tock for marketing. And it 817 00:47:24,990 --> 00:47:27,420 works. It's better than the other apps that 818 00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:29,910 Adam Curry: he doesn't say it's something he says it's better 819 00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:32,310 than the other apps that you know, the guys that are paying 820 00:47:32,310 --> 00:47:32,640 me, 821 00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:35,250 Unknown: but just imagine, when we go to them and say guys, we 822 00:47:35,250 --> 00:47:37,560 got to shut tick tock down now because now it's real, now 823 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,140 they're using it against us. So people are going to come out to 824 00:47:40,140 --> 00:47:43,290 you're going to destroy my business. Fact, China will 825 00:47:43,290 --> 00:47:46,260 probably threaten those people. China will probably make it very 826 00:47:46,260 --> 00:47:48,630 clear, the US gets involved. We're gonna knock all the 827 00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:52,140 Americans off the TIC tock, down goes your business, those people 828 00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:53,820 will suddenly be asking, Oh, 829 00:47:55,050 --> 00:47:56,160 isn't this great? 830 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,250 John C Dvorak: Well, first of all, let's stop a bit right 831 00:47:59,250 --> 00:48:03,480 there. Does this guy have any clue about how businesses work? 832 00:48:03,540 --> 00:48:08,580 Is he ever run a business? Well, here he ran, advertise and get 833 00:48:08,610 --> 00:48:11,490 get you get? Okay, you're advertising, you're finding that 834 00:48:11,490 --> 00:48:15,300 you're getting effective advertising. His work 835 00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:18,360 effectively is working effectively in a specific 836 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,170 magazine. And then magazine folds. That doesn't mean the 837 00:48:22,170 --> 00:48:27,150 business folds? Yes, it means that you need to find something 838 00:48:27,150 --> 00:48:30,420 else you're you're taking, you may or may not even take a hit. 839 00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:33,420 It doesn't you know, if you're advertising effectively, your 840 00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:37,860 business will continue even if the advertising stops dead. You 841 00:48:37,860 --> 00:48:40,920 have a business it's not like it's like, you know, unless it 842 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:47,160 was all direct marketing from that one source. Which is not 843 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,250 the case, very few direct marketing operations I've seen 844 00:48:50,250 --> 00:48:51,690 on Tik Tok, if any, but what 845 00:48:51,690 --> 00:48:54,990 Adam Curry: I'm hearing him say is exactly the talking points 846 00:48:54,990 --> 00:49:00,660 he's been given, Hey, man, we're in trouble. Because people are 847 00:49:00,690 --> 00:49:05,190 becoming successful with tick tock marketing, their marketing 848 00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:08,760 to as we discussed on a previous episode of marketing, to people 849 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,400 who are in a group and there's no strife and Aberdeen, they 850 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,580 like advertising there, and they can target their message because 851 00:49:14,580 --> 00:49:17,700 only one type of people, it doesn't matter what type any 852 00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:21,570 type you can get that type of person. You know, it's very 853 00:49:21,570 --> 00:49:28,170 successful. And yeah, in fact, I have 70 This is from what is 854 00:49:28,170 --> 00:49:33,780 this retail retail dive.com And they published this article they 855 00:49:33,780 --> 00:49:39,630 say here 75% of marketers expect to spend more on tick tock even 856 00:49:39,630 --> 00:49:44,100 as ban looms 75% 857 00:49:44,550 --> 00:49:47,460 John C Dvorak: and drawing attention to all this like Rubio 858 00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:50,460 is doing in the band effect the band looming is brought 859 00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:54,600 attention to advertisers. Yeah, hey, this is good stuff over 860 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,170 here. It's good. It works. It works. All they're doing is 861 00:49:58,170 --> 00:50:02,970 making Tik Tok more success. for what it is, yeah, 862 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,780 Adam Curry: that's what I said. 863 00:50:04,260 --> 00:50:06,870 Unknown: China will probably threaten those people. China 864 00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:07,710 will probably make it very 865 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,550 Adam Curry: threatened. Hey, we're gonna kick you off a tic 866 00:50:11,550 --> 00:50:13,530 tac No, they're not gonna do that 867 00:50:13,590 --> 00:50:17,100 John C Dvorak: if China wants to cause some problems together. 868 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,280 One of the one of our producers sent me a note talking about 869 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,770 classic cars. He says you can't buy parts for any classic cars, 870 00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:30,030 right nowadays, American cars, American American American, 871 00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:34,650 American classic cars, you want a part a screw for your car? 872 00:50:34,650 --> 00:50:36,990 That's a little different because it goes someplace here 873 00:50:36,990 --> 00:50:40,800 or there. No, it comes from China if you can get it at all 874 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,990 and even the Chinese parts aren't as good as they should 875 00:50:42,990 --> 00:50:46,050 be. But they're just all China you have no, uh, you know, 876 00:50:46,050 --> 00:50:48,810 there's no option. There's no real printed version. They don't 877 00:50:48,810 --> 00:50:53,580 have models that you can put in a into the 3d printers or 878 00:50:53,580 --> 00:50:55,860 anything like that. What happened to Moammar they just 879 00:50:55,860 --> 00:50:59,970 kind of cut off. They can just, I heard some guy the other day, 880 00:50:59,970 --> 00:51:02,460 say, you know, we should do whenever the in fact is one of 881 00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:06,210 the clips we had like a week ago. Guys, you know, one of the 882 00:51:06,210 --> 00:51:10,950 we just we just stop all the imports from China. Yes, that'll 883 00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:19,290 do it. Wow. How dumb are you talking about naive? Yeah. Let's 884 00:51:19,290 --> 00:51:23,070 finish up to our next with China. We can't we have to find 885 00:51:23,070 --> 00:51:25,920 some other way of dealing with this. We can't, 886 00:51:26,010 --> 00:51:29,880 Adam Curry: we can't do. And maybe they could, for some 887 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,290 reason. I mean, I'm sure the national security system is also 888 00:51:34,290 --> 00:51:38,070 interested in gaining control over China's so Rubio is saying 889 00:51:38,070 --> 00:51:40,950 two things. One, we don't control the messaging, like we 890 00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:44,550 control with all the American companies, for whatever reason, 891 00:51:44,550 --> 00:51:48,060 because you know, we put FBI in there, we have the IRS 892 00:51:48,060 --> 00:51:51,210 threatened people, you know that that's, so we don't have that 893 00:51:51,210 --> 00:51:54,210 angle, although I think they probably could, because after 894 00:51:54,210 --> 00:51:57,570 all it is, you know, it's not a Chinese company that runs us. 895 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:04,710 And we got a problem. They they look 75% everyone's moving to 896 00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:08,460 tick tock, we have email after email to talk works. We like it, 897 00:52:08,460 --> 00:52:12,720 this is good. And so what he's saying here is they need to have 898 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:18,300 some boogeyman China, to stop this, to blame it on because 899 00:52:18,510 --> 00:52:23,070 people are going to lose their minds. And I also don't think 900 00:52:23,070 --> 00:52:26,250 it's ever going to happen. I'm going to put that in the book, 901 00:52:26,250 --> 00:52:30,570 there's going to be no tick tock ban. Not agree not going to 902 00:52:30,570 --> 00:52:33,120 happen. Now let's finish this out. So people are going to come 903 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,300 Unknown: on to you're gonna destroy my business. Fact, China 904 00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:39,090 will probably threaten those people, China will probably make 905 00:52:39,090 --> 00:52:41,490 it very clear, the US gets involved, we're going to knock 906 00:52:41,490 --> 00:52:44,220 all the Americans off the TIC tock, down goes your business, 907 00:52:44,370 --> 00:52:47,700 those people will suddenly be asking their elected officials 908 00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:50,070 here not to get involved in Taiwan. And you know, where we 909 00:52:50,070 --> 00:52:53,580 find ourselves then paralyzed, paralyzed a country that's 910 00:52:53,580 --> 00:52:55,890 paralyzed, that cannot act in its own national security 911 00:52:55,890 --> 00:53:00,240 interests, because we've allowed an adversary to basically use an 912 00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:04,410 app that they control and the data that they control to shape 913 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,710 public opinion in America over an extended period of time, and 914 00:53:07,710 --> 00:53:08,910 we can't do anything about it. 915 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,160 Adam Curry: whatsoever. This is also a lie. 916 00:53:14,490 --> 00:53:20,040 John C Dvorak: So so his whole thing is if if we banned tick 917 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,880 tock this is what he's sensually say. Bye. Bye. People should 918 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,590 check out my Essayons Yes, 919 00:53:25,830 --> 00:53:28,710 Adam Curry: I put I put a link in the show notes to your free 920 00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:31,800 and open Internet hypocrites by Jhansi Dvorak link in the show 921 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:32,310 notes 922 00:53:33,330 --> 00:53:38,100 John C Dvorak: the what he's saying is that if we ban tick 923 00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:42,990 tock which is again in a free and open internet, if we ban 924 00:53:42,990 --> 00:53:47,070 Tiktok like you know we were wrong or something then the 925 00:53:47,070 --> 00:53:51,210 whole Chinese Chinese Taiwan things over is that what is kind 926 00:53:51,210 --> 00:53:54,540 of implying Yeah, then we're to worry about China and Taiwan. If 927 00:53:54,540 --> 00:53:57,630 it goes is that is that the point? Yeah, that's the hope 928 00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:05,100 Adam Curry: this is to scare you. scare you a couple other 929 00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:07,680 things before we move on. First of all, Zuckerberg did actually 930 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,040 have the opportunity to buy this when it was called Music Lee 931 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:18,300 musically musical dot L y musically. And the price wasn't 932 00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:22,230 right, and that they negotiated for 14 months and bytedance 933 00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:27,870 outbid Zuckerberg. $800 million. And then, of course, it became 934 00:54:27,870 --> 00:54:32,640 Tik Tok. merged into the TIC tock engine. And there and there 935 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,430 it is. And people like now I need to say a couple of things 936 00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:38,490 because I got a lot of love from people. Yeah, you're right, tic 937 00:54:38,490 --> 00:54:42,300 TOCs fantastic. You know, it's a love algo. Ultimately, 938 00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:50,490 centralized media is a bad idea. Regardless, it's a bad idea. It 939 00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:55,260 can it's just a bad idea. I would say for sure. Invest some 940 00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:59,970 time and understanding Mastodon that has its problems too. But 941 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,270 You know, we have a vibrant community of people and there's 942 00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:05,370 no algos? That's the thing, there's no, as long as there's 943 00:55:05,370 --> 00:55:09,480 no algo. And I have some godlike powers there. And, you know, I 944 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,550 haven't, I've kicked one or two people off, because they really 945 00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:14,040 just angered me that they weren't participating in the 946 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,610 community just just to have an account somewhere. But 947 00:55:17,610 --> 00:55:21,990 otherwise, you just leave it alone. And sometimes, because we 948 00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:25,740 don't have an algo it's annoying, which is good. Now, if 949 00:55:25,740 --> 00:55:29,880 people tagged me on their arguments, or by I'm mute 950 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,940 conversation, I'm out, I'm not interested in that. And it's 951 00:55:32,940 --> 00:55:35,910 kind of good because I don't want to be on Mastodon all day, 952 00:55:36,450 --> 00:55:42,270 podcasting, perfect example of 19 years of no messing with the 953 00:55:42,270 --> 00:55:45,360 infrastructure. And we and we've solidified that with podcast 954 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:51,150 index, RSS, which Google killed tried to kill off by killing the 955 00:55:51,150 --> 00:55:55,170 Google Reader couldn't do it. It's still being used. And 956 00:55:55,170 --> 00:55:57,990 today, there's even noster I heard about this noster and 957 00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:58,710 RSTR. 958 00:55:58,980 --> 00:56:00,870 John C Dvorak: We're gonna hear about it now, though. I'm, I'm 959 00:56:00,870 --> 00:56:03,930 guessing. But let me ask you a question. First. What do you 960 00:56:03,930 --> 00:56:07,740 think the motive was for Google to kill off Google Reader? It 961 00:56:07,770 --> 00:56:11,940 wasn't that it was unsuccessful and costing them a lot of money 962 00:56:11,940 --> 00:56:12,330 could make 963 00:56:12,330 --> 00:56:15,750 Adam Curry: money off of it. They couldn't make money off of 964 00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:18,600 it. It wasn't centralized. They could they couldn't get 965 00:56:19,050 --> 00:56:22,230 John C Dvorak: out of it. Is it good? As a nice loss leader? 966 00:56:22,410 --> 00:56:26,910 Adam Curry: No. Are you nuts? No, that's what Gmail is. Gmail 967 00:56:26,910 --> 00:56:29,580 was their loss leader. But they made sure they could read 968 00:56:29,580 --> 00:56:32,970 everything. And now it's very profitable for them. Because 969 00:56:32,970 --> 00:56:34,830 they, you know, they say right there. We're looking, we're 970 00:56:34,830 --> 00:56:38,100 reading your email, so that we can see if there's anything that 971 00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:41,640 we can handle for you better ads, yeah. For not for anything 972 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:46,530 else, really, just for better ads. Sure. But that's a maybe 973 00:56:46,530 --> 00:56:48,840 sometimes some of this information data goes to the 974 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,160 CIA, NSA. When they ask, well, they're busy. They don't ask we 975 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,650 don't do it. They're big. They're big. They claim they 976 00:56:55,650 --> 00:56:58,800 don't do. I would say the big thing that Google did was maps, 977 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,710 they they bought keyhole, which they definitely got from the 978 00:57:01,710 --> 00:57:06,060 CIA. Will maps is the best. By the way. I wanted to bring it 979 00:57:06,060 --> 00:57:09,210 one more thing about Rubio quickly, he brought up that 980 00:57:09,540 --> 00:57:17,040 Forbes Forbes reporter who Tik Tok was spying on which is not 981 00:57:17,070 --> 00:57:23,490 true. That tick tock got location data from a reporter to 982 00:57:23,490 --> 00:57:27,000 send to match it up to see if any, because there was a leak, 983 00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:30,570 there was a leak of 80 hours of conversation of tic toc talking 984 00:57:30,570 --> 00:57:32,910 about what their strategy was and what they were going to do 985 00:57:32,910 --> 00:57:37,200 in America. And and and the Forbes reporter started 986 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,860 reporting on it. And I think you'll probably you can probably 987 00:57:40,860 --> 00:57:45,240 corroborate this. Tech companies in America have done this ad 988 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,840 nauseam to reporters, let's see where this reporter was, was 989 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,860 anyone from our company? 990 00:57:50,910 --> 00:57:54,090 John C Dvorak: P is a scam did it in a scandalous way that 991 00:57:54,090 --> 00:57:56,580 ended up with it. I think it was the chairman of the board and 992 00:57:56,610 --> 00:57:59,640 getting kicked off getting fired this woman who was just as 993 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,570 horrible owner as woman, she's started spying on about five or 994 00:58:03,570 --> 00:58:06,510 six or seven major national reporters. 995 00:58:06,690 --> 00:58:10,350 Adam Curry: But spy it's one thing first of all, the woman 996 00:58:10,350 --> 00:58:16,170 has the app. So her her IP and location data is known. And it's 997 00:58:16,170 --> 00:58:19,230 like it's okay for advertising. But oh, now they're gonna find 998 00:58:19,230 --> 00:58:21,150 out where I am. And then to see if any of their employees are 999 00:58:21,150 --> 00:58:24,270 there. And that's really bad. How stupid are you Reporter But 1000 00:58:24,270 --> 00:58:27,780 the funny thing is, Forbes magazine is owned by a Chinese 1001 00:58:27,780 --> 00:58:28,440 company. 1002 00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:32,640 John C Dvorak: It is funny. 1003 00:58:32,850 --> 00:58:35,580 Adam Curry: So you know, and even the report is like and you 1004 00:58:35,580 --> 00:58:38,400 know, that happens. That happens to happens. 1005 00:58:38,549 --> 00:58:41,039 John C Dvorak: But I had written years ago in the 80s. I'd 1006 00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:45,089 written something for info world about 18 T had these plans for 1007 00:58:45,089 --> 00:58:48,269 some chip or some damn thing. Some guy was feeding me this 1008 00:58:48,269 --> 00:58:52,769 information from a TNT and I said, Well, you know, you're 1009 00:58:52,769 --> 00:58:57,179 being he wasn't careful at all. And they Dave at&t Got a little 1010 00:58:57,209 --> 00:59:00,869 irked by this, these leaks, and they don't know what they did. 1011 00:59:00,869 --> 00:59:03,959 But they started looking for people within the company that 1012 00:59:03,959 --> 00:59:07,889 were sent talking to me. And they found a guy and fired him. 1013 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,870 Adam Curry: Did you feel spied on did you feel violated? Or did 1014 00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:16,140 you feel kind of cool? Like wow, I'm that important. They spied 1015 00:59:16,140 --> 00:59:16,320 on? 1016 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,210 John C Dvorak: Well, I know that some reporters who have been 1017 00:59:18,210 --> 00:59:23,850 spied on they have had there's some way of suing. And you can 1018 00:59:23,850 --> 00:59:27,240 make a lot of money, really. So I was always looking forward to 1019 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,700 it. But it never happened. Back to 1020 00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:33,240 Adam Curry: Nasir nos ter no notes and other stuff through 1021 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:38,550 relays. And this is no one owns this. No one can own it. People 1022 00:59:38,550 --> 00:59:42,750 can only own apps, I guess, if you want to sell an app, but 1023 00:59:42,750 --> 00:59:46,080 there's so many open source apps. And you can do all kinds 1024 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,550 of stuff with this. Jack Dorsey is he's been seeding the 1025 00:59:50,550 --> 00:59:58,050 community by helping developers out to bootstrap this. It's it's 1026 00:59:58,050 --> 01:00:01,500 wonky still but I can see what's happening. One thing that that 1027 01:00:01,530 --> 01:00:03,990 this is a it's really, it's decentralized and so 1028 01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:07,500 decentralized, that it's just you, you and then you can tap 1029 01:00:07,500 --> 01:00:11,760 into any number of relays, which is in a way like a mastodon 1030 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,750 server. But you can have one yourself you know it's easy to 1031 01:00:15,780 --> 01:00:18,810 pretty easy to set up on a Raspberry Pi or your buddy can 1032 01:00:18,810 --> 01:00:21,870 set it up but you don't need it you can use what do I what do I 1033 01:00:21,870 --> 01:00:26,940 want it for? Oh, right now the first usage is social media 1034 01:00:26,940 --> 01:00:30,240 network with follow you know, the whole thing it's, it's all 1035 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:30,810 in there is 1036 01:00:30,810 --> 01:00:33,570 John C Dvorak: it different? Why would I want to anesthetic the 1037 01:00:33,570 --> 01:00:35,160 mastodon I'm using 1038 01:00:38,310 --> 01:00:42,420 Adam Curry: I think it's community based that seems to be 1039 01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:47,160 mastered on it's called cultural, the cultural the 1040 01:00:47,850 --> 01:00:56,820 attitude of Mastodon is retarded from its onset. In my mind, you 1041 01:00:56,820 --> 01:01:00,390 know, a bunch of nut jobs who hate everybody and ban and block 1042 01:01:00,390 --> 01:01:04,020 and nostra doesn't really have that capability. You determine 1043 01:01:04,020 --> 01:01:07,590 if you ban or block you can't really block instances, the way 1044 01:01:07,590 --> 01:01:12,270 Mastodon does it. And there's one other thing that is what 1045 01:01:12,270 --> 01:01:14,640 John C Dvorak: if I want to block instance, so you you 1046 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,810 personally can block it. 1047 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,060 Adam Curry: But it's not like someone else can block you from 1048 01:01:18,060 --> 01:01:22,260 seeing someone else on your Okay, on your app. It's a 1049 01:01:22,260 --> 01:01:26,940 critical difference. They have some other answer just one way 1050 01:01:26,940 --> 01:01:30,060 you can you can use nostril and INRIA. Again, it's night notes 1051 01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:32,490 and other stuff. You could do anything you want. You could 1052 01:01:32,610 --> 01:01:36,660 have blogs run on it. It's it's not don't go and try it right 1053 01:01:36,660 --> 01:01:38,760 now. John is not ready for primetime. You'll hate 1054 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,240 John C Dvorak: it. But I can seeing any reason I want to try 1055 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,260 it. No, you don't. Yeah, no, 1056 01:01:43,290 --> 01:01:46,140 Adam Curry: no, you don't. But I've I've been pretty good 1057 01:01:46,140 --> 01:01:50,220 sometimes identifying stuff. And I think that this has legs. This 1058 01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:54,120 has legs and they have a financial model built in, in 1059 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,320 some way similar to podcasting 2.0, where you can zap people 1060 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,970 instead of a like, you can send them some Satoshis give it give 1061 01:02:02,970 --> 01:02:06,210 it a year or two. There's something going on here and it's 1062 01:02:06,210 --> 01:02:10,560 maturing quite quickly. But anyway, the point is, we have to 1063 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,380 do this, you know, like homeschooling, get your kid out 1064 01:02:13,380 --> 01:02:15,360 of school, I don't care where I don't care if they're where 1065 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,270 they're at school, get your kid out of school. It's toxic, it's 1066 01:02:18,270 --> 01:02:27,000 horrible. And be and I just learned yesterday 15,000 1067 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:32,160 Americans a day die from misdiagnosis by doctors and 1068 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,550 accidents in hospitals if things go wrong. You don't really hear 1069 01:02:35,550 --> 01:02:40,140 about that. It's probably the one of the biggest killers is 1070 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,620 medical doctors. Not all of course are bad. But you know, we 1071 01:02:43,620 --> 01:02:46,770 have a lot of doctors who are told to diagnose and prescribe 1072 01:02:46,770 --> 01:02:51,390 and people die. And then you don't get reporting on it. You 1073 01:02:51,390 --> 01:02:55,050 know, have your voodoo now we have the now we have the mammoth 1074 01:02:55,050 --> 01:03:00,330 balls. You hear about this crap? Yeah, yeah, and actually have 1075 01:03:00,450 --> 01:03:01,620 the woolly mammoth ball 1076 01:03:01,650 --> 01:03:03,990 Unknown: next the manda meatball, but it's not for 1077 01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:05,070 spaghetti. Very gross. It's 1078 01:03:05,070 --> 01:03:07,410 the work of an Australian company. They mixed a small 1079 01:03:07,410 --> 01:03:10,620 amount of woolly mammoth DNA found in the Arctic with lamb 1080 01:03:10,620 --> 01:03:13,260 meat. Researchers say they're making a point about the 1081 01:03:13,290 --> 01:03:14,160 alternatives. They 1082 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,620 Adam Curry: claim it's a big innovation in food production. 1083 01:03:16,650 --> 01:03:20,730 Not an April Fool's joke. Yeah. Food production. So everyone's 1084 01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:24,360 all Oh, yeah. Oh, great. Yes. So it's a mammoth. Amount of the 1085 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:29,220 sell meat. Yeah, good. Sell cultured meat. The revolution 1086 01:03:29,220 --> 01:03:32,070 will be decentralized. Don't miss out and miss out on it. 1087 01:03:32,070 --> 01:03:37,200 That's kind of my point. We have. This is not going to stop. 1088 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,880 None of this ends. Well. Oh, Elon Musk is this was so funny. 1089 01:03:42,990 --> 01:03:43,920 You probably heard about this 1090 01:03:43,950 --> 01:03:47,010 Unknown: security breach at Twitter, parts of the company's 1091 01:03:47,010 --> 01:03:50,280 closely guarded source code were actually leaked online. That is 1092 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,880 the fundamental computer code on which the platform runs. It 1093 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,730 includes security vulnerabilities. Twitter has 1094 01:03:56,730 --> 01:03:59,400 filed a lawsuit to try and determine who was behind the 1095 01:03:59,400 --> 01:03:59,820 breach 1096 01:03:59,850 --> 01:04:03,390 Adam Curry: and no one cares. No one's building a new Twitter, 1097 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:08,100 out of Twitter source code, Mastodon and noster. And 1098 01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:11,130 podcast, all that source code is open. Go build yourself. 1099 01:04:12,540 --> 01:04:14,460 John C Dvorak: Well, I don't think that was the point. The 1100 01:04:14,460 --> 01:04:19,080 point was that somebody could create some malware. And another 1101 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:19,440 reason 1102 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,620 Adam Curry: not to be on Twitter into Are you really, I mean, do 1103 01:04:22,620 --> 01:04:25,110 you really use Twitter anymore? I certainly don't. 1104 01:04:25,650 --> 01:04:27,750 John C Dvorak: You use it more than I do. 1105 01:04:29,220 --> 01:04:30,540 Adam Curry: As an inbox still. 1106 01:04:31,290 --> 01:04:34,470 John C Dvorak: Now I see you post a lot at replies. I 1107 01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:38,400 replied. No, you will. I don't know Bell. Well, well analyze 1108 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,270 the post but you post a lot. I tend to only post the show the 1109 01:04:42,270 --> 01:04:43,890 new shows. You're even 1110 01:04:43,890 --> 01:04:46,770 Adam Curry: smarter than I am. That's my point. Your event 1111 01:04:46,770 --> 01:04:51,660 you're ahead of the curve. Got a couple notes here about the 1112 01:04:51,660 --> 01:04:59,220 government ban tick tock ban. A, a government individual 1113 01:04:59,220 --> 01:05:01,860 contacted me I shall remain nameless. You and John have been 1114 01:05:01,860 --> 01:05:04,020 discussing the whole tick tock situation over the last few 1115 01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:07,860 weeks. I'd like to provide some clarification. Please keep this 1116 01:05:07,860 --> 01:05:11,190 anonymous Of course, when the media reports that apps such as 1117 01:05:11,220 --> 01:05:14,340 tick tock are now banned from government issued phones and 1118 01:05:14,340 --> 01:05:20,400 digital devices, it's a complete bull crap. Any government issued 1119 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,120 phone can only be used for work related tasks all activity is 1120 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,870 tracked. And on most of them the ability to even download use or 1121 01:05:27,870 --> 01:05:32,610 install apps is disabled. Just another statement to make it 1122 01:05:32,610 --> 01:05:35,790 seem like a proactive step is being taken what actually has 1123 01:05:35,790 --> 01:05:37,890 never been allowed in the first place? 1124 01:05:38,190 --> 01:05:39,300 John C Dvorak: Yeah, makes sense. 1125 01:05:40,830 --> 01:05:45,390 Adam Curry: In that and so it's all it's all a scam. 1126 01:05:46,530 --> 01:05:48,780 John C Dvorak: Oh, well, there's one little funny thing that's 1127 01:05:48,780 --> 01:05:52,980 happening I think is cool. And this could be have some effect. 1128 01:05:53,580 --> 01:05:58,380 And this is the Arkansas lawsuit against both meta and Tic Toc, 1129 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,950 Unknown: Arkansas is suing meta and tic toc. The state claims 1130 01:06:01,950 --> 01:06:04,590 the social media giants are making their platforms 1131 01:06:04,620 --> 01:06:09,270 manipulative and addictive to children on purpose. Lawsuits 1132 01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:12,330 allege that both companies violated the state's deceptive 1133 01:06:12,330 --> 01:06:16,110 trade practices act. Arkansas says meadow trades their 1134 01:06:16,110 --> 01:06:19,440 products using complex algorithms designed to quote 1135 01:06:19,710 --> 01:06:24,330 exploit human psychology and foster addiction to maximize 1136 01:06:24,330 --> 01:06:28,080 user screen time. The lawsuit against tick tock alleges that 1137 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,220 the app routinely exposes the data of Arkansas consumers to 1138 01:06:32,340 --> 01:06:37,050 access and exploitation by the Chinese Communist Party. This is 1139 01:06:37,140 --> 01:06:40,740 Adam Curry: this is this is very analogous to what's happening in 1140 01:06:40,740 --> 01:06:45,540 Alabama. So that was Arkansas in Alabama three school districts 1141 01:06:45,540 --> 01:06:49,350 are suing meta YouTube Tik Tok and Snapchat over student and 1142 01:06:49,350 --> 01:06:50,190 mental health. 1143 01:06:50,970 --> 01:06:51,750 John C Dvorak: Nice. 1144 01:06:53,610 --> 01:06:55,740 Adam Curry: alleging the social media companies have created a 1145 01:06:55,740 --> 01:07:00,720 youth mental crisis. And the platforms are unreasonably 1146 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,670 dangerous and addictive. This youth mental health crisis is 1147 01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:08,280 affecting all aspects of education students are 1148 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,490 experiencing record rates of anxiety, depression, and other 1149 01:07:11,490 --> 01:07:14,280 mental health issues because of the defendants intentional 1150 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,910 conduct. These students perform worse in school are less likely 1151 01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:21,000 to attend school more likely to engage in substance abuse and to 1152 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,120 act out all of which directly affects plaintiffs ability to 1153 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,540 fulfill their educational mission. This I think is very 1154 01:07:27,540 --> 01:07:30,720 analogous to the tobacco laws. And this is what I think the 1155 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,590 states are going for. Hey, these Silicon Valley guys they are 1156 01:07:34,590 --> 01:07:38,970 cleaning up let's get us some of that money. Just like the master 1157 01:07:38,970 --> 01:07:42,990 states agreement. Go for it I think that it's probably a good 1158 01:07:42,990 --> 01:07:43,590 idea 1159 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,660 John C Dvorak: and I think it's a great idea and I think they 1160 01:07:45,660 --> 01:07:48,060 should do exactly that and if you're going to take it to the 1161 01:07:48,090 --> 01:07:54,750 way that the tobacco money share went I think go for it. I think 1162 01:07:54,750 --> 01:07:57,780 he should do it if these guys are making way too much money 1163 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,910 Adam Curry: and we're going to talk about some of that mental 1164 01:07:59,910 --> 01:08:03,840 health crisis after I say in the morning to you the man who put 1165 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:11,100 the C in the what did I have I had something I can't remember 1166 01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:14,340 what it was chief AI officer that's what it was ladies and 1167 01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:16,890 gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. John 1168 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,260 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well in the morning to you Mr. Adam 1169 01:08:22,260 --> 01:08:24,510 curiosity in the morning worship she boots to the ground Feeny 1170 01:08:24,510 --> 01:08:25,890 are substantive on the dames tonight. 1171 01:08:26,099 --> 01:08:27,719 Adam Curry: And for those of you who are in the troll room 1172 01:08:27,719 --> 01:08:30,599 thinking oh, I as a donation segment. I'm going to leave no 1173 01:08:30,599 --> 01:08:33,569 you miss some good content last time and we have now been 1174 01:08:33,569 --> 01:08:37,319 integrating even more content into these donation segments we 1175 01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:39,539 have to today because people stepped up let's see how the 1176 01:08:39,539 --> 01:08:47,369 trolls are doing. Going on. Oh 2068 for Thursday, 1177 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,490 John C Dvorak: we're up. We're up back to our old days. The 1178 01:08:50,490 --> 01:08:52,050 olden days during the COVID 1179 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,910 Adam Curry: That's right during the cut and well you know what? 1180 01:08:53,940 --> 01:08:57,510 It's because this is as dangerous as COVID only for real 1181 01:08:57,540 --> 01:09:00,270 John C Dvorak: Oh more dangerous. Much more dangerous. 1182 01:09:01,410 --> 01:09:03,450 Adam Curry: The trolls are in the troll room control room.io 1183 01:09:03,450 --> 01:09:06,510 You can listen to this show live on Thursdays and Sundays as we 1184 01:09:06,510 --> 01:09:11,370 bring it to you live on edited it as the podcast also goes out. 1185 01:09:11,370 --> 01:09:15,750 I live and unedited and they can't take us down. This will 1186 01:09:15,750 --> 01:09:17,820 never go away. It's not like you're watching what you think 1187 01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:20,820 is a podcast on YouTube. We're not sitting there with that cans 1188 01:09:20,820 --> 01:09:25,350 on and microphones. No, we're an audio podcast. You can drive 1189 01:09:25,350 --> 01:09:27,810 while you're listening to us. You can do other things. You can 1190 01:09:27,810 --> 01:09:30,360 do yard work. You can be sitting on the lawn mower. You can be 1191 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,420 using your weed whacker, you can be doing the dishes, you can do 1192 01:09:33,420 --> 01:09:36,120 all kinds of stuff. You can multitask, it's a great 1193 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,810 invention. Use a modern podcast app available at podcast 1194 01:09:39,810 --> 01:09:44,310 apps.com. To get all kinds of benefits. We have transcripts so 1195 01:09:44,310 --> 01:09:47,580 you can read along many people in foreign countries like 1196 01:09:47,580 --> 01:09:49,830 listening to us and reading along and they find that very 1197 01:09:49,830 --> 01:09:53,790 handy. We've got chapters and also you can get a bat signal 1198 01:09:53,790 --> 01:09:56,580 alerted when the show goes live. Any show goes live that's using 1199 01:09:56,580 --> 01:09:59,250 the new protocols and it's backwards compatible. You can 1200 01:09:59,250 --> 01:10:02,040 use all of If you could import all of your existing podcast 1201 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,220 don't be afraid move towards something that is not controlled 1202 01:10:05,220 --> 01:10:08,010 by a large company support some smaller guys who are doing some 1203 01:10:08,010 --> 01:10:12,720 and gals who are doing some good work. Now said you can follow us 1204 01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,240 on no agenda, social dot comments or Mastodon server, 1205 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,970 it's much better than being anywhere else. Give that a shot, 1206 01:10:17,970 --> 01:10:20,640 follow Adam and no agenda. social.com Jhansi, Dvorak had no 1207 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,030 agenda social.com. And we as part of our value for value 1208 01:10:24,030 --> 01:10:29,880 model, we have many artists, professionals who like to create 1209 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,300 art that we'll use, and we're one of the few podcasts who who 1210 01:10:33,300 --> 01:10:36,090 do it one of the few who actually can because we accept 1211 01:10:36,090 --> 01:10:39,090 time, talent and treasure in return for the value that we 1212 01:10:39,090 --> 01:10:42,570 provide with our shows. And these artists make artwork that 1213 01:10:42,570 --> 01:10:47,280 we then put on the podcast and people love it. And I would say 1214 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:52,380 that the capitalist agenda piece that we chose for episode 1541 1215 01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:59,550 was one of the I mean, people responded to this. This was the 1216 01:11:00,780 --> 01:11:05,070 tick tock, kind of cheese keiki lady with the big red lips and 1217 01:11:05,070 --> 01:11:08,580 the Tick Tock heart glasses and has had the love algo there. 1218 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,010 People responded well to this. Yeah, they really did. And we 1219 01:11:14,010 --> 01:11:16,350 liked it. And we looked at, by the way, I wanted to say 1220 01:11:16,350 --> 01:11:21,720 something about capitalist agenda. I think that he is also 1221 01:11:22,350 --> 01:11:26,550 available on Fiverr Fiverr. You know, you can hire him to do 1222 01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:30,420 stuff. More artists should do save bucks more artists to do 1223 01:11:30,420 --> 01:11:33,630 this. We'll be happy to promote it. fiverr.com/cap again, 1224 01:11:33,660 --> 01:11:37,140 agenda. He used to be in the financial industry. I'm not sure 1225 01:11:37,140 --> 01:11:39,300 what happened, what it meant. I have to have my 1226 01:11:39,330 --> 01:11:41,040 John C Dvorak: drawing. I know what happened. He was one of 1227 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,680 those like a kid in school that won't listen to the history 1228 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,490 class, because he's drawing the teachers, caricature of the 1229 01:11:47,490 --> 01:11:51,150 teacher. And the next thing you know, the principle goes into 1230 01:11:51,150 --> 01:11:53,460 principle. Here's a story that actually is true. This has 1231 01:11:53,460 --> 01:11:57,120 happened to more than a few guys to principle gets calls into 1232 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,370 gotta go to the principal, the principal sees it, what are you 1233 01:11:59,370 --> 01:12:03,630 doing? And he's looked at all the artwork says, Okay, well, I 1234 01:12:03,630 --> 01:12:06,240 don't know what to say. But stop doing this in class. But I'll 1235 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,330 tell you, what, can you do a caricature of everybody? All the 1236 01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:13,530 teachers in the school? We'd really like it. Yeah, these 1237 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:14,520 these kids? Yeah. 1238 01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:18,570 Adam Curry: No, I'm with you. Two of my friends got fired this 1239 01:12:18,570 --> 01:12:23,310 week. Yeah, I heard this one from Sirius XM. We'd been there 1240 01:12:23,310 --> 01:12:28,230 for 18 years. And one from the Disney Corporation. Yeah. Hi up, 1241 01:12:28,230 --> 01:12:29,040 guys. Two. 1242 01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:30,930 John C Dvorak: You mentioned about the Disney guy, but you 1243 01:12:30,930 --> 01:12:33,630 didn't. I didn't know anything about the serious guy. Yeah, 1244 01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:36,270 because what's happening is seriously bald having a shake 1245 01:12:36,270 --> 01:12:36,390 up. 1246 01:12:36,420 --> 01:12:39,270 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. They fired four or 500 people and Steve 1247 01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:42,330 leads who's the guy who brought me to who he was the guy who 1248 01:12:42,330 --> 01:12:44,760 called me in Holland said, Hey, you want to come work for MTV? 1249 01:12:45,330 --> 01:12:48,600 And Steve Lise has been in the music business for a lot he used 1250 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,890 to. He was the promoter for Led Zeppelin. Just to give you an 1251 01:12:52,890 --> 01:12:56,130 idea of how far back he goes. That's, that's good. Steve 1252 01:12:56,130 --> 01:12:59,910 Leazes the guy you can call him say a friend of mine is a big 1253 01:12:59,910 --> 01:13:03,270 YouTube fan. She's going to be in Ireland. Can you hook up with 1254 01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:07,380 some tickets? And what happens is the girl my friend went to go 1255 01:13:07,380 --> 01:13:10,650 pick the young woman went to go pick up some tickets. And the 1256 01:13:10,650 --> 01:13:13,260 manager came out said Oh, no, no, look, come on in. I want you 1257 01:13:13,260 --> 01:13:16,410 to show me the operation. I want you to meet everybody. You know 1258 01:13:16,410 --> 01:13:19,800 that the whole backstage experience? That's what Steve 1259 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,220 leaves does for people and he's he built up the talent relations 1260 01:13:23,220 --> 01:13:27,270 department at Sirius for 18 years. gone done. 1261 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,260 John C Dvorak: New guy came in nine was this guy do I don't 1262 01:13:31,260 --> 01:13:34,710 know. Okay, so I've seen this Yeah, we 1263 01:13:34,710 --> 01:13:38,160 Adam Curry: know how good but now it's real though. And when 1264 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:43,080 you're a white guy and you're over 50 There's not a lot of 1265 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:47,400 opportunities for you anymore. Of course I suggest the the or 1266 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:52,620 the recommended no agenda way is be gay for pay baby. Like come 1267 01:13:52,620 --> 01:13:58,140 on. Get with the program get with the program. Anyway, so we 1268 01:13:58,140 --> 01:14:00,510 hope everything goes well with CAP agenda at that fiver. Now 1269 01:14:00,510 --> 01:14:02,730 let's look at some of the art that we did not choose but did 1270 01:14:02,730 --> 01:14:10,410 discuss what was what did we look at although we looked at 1271 01:14:10,410 --> 01:14:11,490 Mega strike stuff, 1272 01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:13,740 John C Dvorak: you know, Paul couture also came with a 1273 01:14:13,740 --> 01:14:18,870 beautiful piece of the Internet tools PC, his artists just super 1274 01:14:18,870 --> 01:14:21,240 professional and I wanted to mention that piece because it's 1275 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,360 so pretty. It's called discussing depreciation. Oh 1276 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,240 yeah. And he's very good at That's a gorgeous piece. I ended 1277 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,690 up using another capitalist agenda piece called sportball 1278 01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:33,090 for the newsletter because they just kind of like there was 1279 01:14:33,090 --> 01:14:39,090 cute. Baseball with a running down as buying stuff was like it 1280 01:14:39,090 --> 01:14:44,730 was not quite up to up to par. It was some modernistic looking 1281 01:14:44,730 --> 01:14:50,370 very super kind of surfer stuff from miss your Piri piri 1282 01:14:50,370 --> 01:14:55,290 whatever his name is and it was just always nice. Bomb there's 1283 01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:57,150 some but a bomb with a tick tock. 1284 01:14:57,780 --> 01:15:02,580 Adam Curry: Yeah, that was the net Tria net Reott X. And that 1285 01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:03,300 was pretty good. 1286 01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:07,020 John C Dvorak: And I really liked mega strike. When we got 1287 01:15:07,020 --> 01:15:10,440 down, we'd like Mega strike a lot there was and I wish you 1288 01:15:10,440 --> 01:15:15,360 wouldn't have put 1541 on or redo it. Because I think that's 1289 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:22,350 usable. In fact, I think is reusable in different, you could 1290 01:15:22,350 --> 01:15:26,520 put different load monikers in that giant ball with guys 1291 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:33,000 carryings. And this was done by B Debbie of BW or graphics. So I 1292 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,450 assumed it very professional, I have to assume it was a zero. 1293 01:15:37,050 --> 01:15:40,650 Adam Curry: We have also we like to make a strike as a title. So 1294 01:15:40,650 --> 01:15:45,960 that's kind of how we got out of that I would say What else was 1295 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:46,140 there 1296 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,560 John C Dvorak: are artists and reflect a title, typically maybe 1297 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,930 one or two times 15 years. 1298 01:15:52,830 --> 01:15:55,470 Adam Curry: And people still making things too complicated 1299 01:15:55,470 --> 01:15:59,280 too small. So little words, little balloons, people saying 1300 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,270 stuff, it's got to be comically big, because if you look at the 1301 01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:06,750 art page, you know, the Submit was submitted artwork that is 1302 01:16:06,750 --> 01:16:10,110 the maximum size you're going to see this artwork probably even 1303 01:16:10,110 --> 01:16:15,870 smaller on most phones and and devices in podcast apps. So 1304 01:16:15,870 --> 01:16:19,020 please take that into account that a lot of these details just 1305 01:16:19,020 --> 01:16:23,670 get lost. You know, like TJ, the raffles, human resources, 1306 01:16:23,670 --> 01:16:26,010 sparkles, you know, the no agenda, everything's a scam. 1307 01:16:26,340 --> 01:16:29,370 It's just too small. You can't even read stuff, you can't see 1308 01:16:29,370 --> 01:16:35,010 it. So you have to take the medium into account. Am I saying 1309 01:16:35,010 --> 01:16:35,460 that right? 1310 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,750 John C Dvorak: I don't know. Close enough. Thanks. 1311 01:16:40,980 --> 01:16:45,000 Adam Curry: So appreciate it. We also like to thank people who 1312 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,570 support us financially. We had a very bad showing on the last 1313 01:16:48,570 --> 01:16:50,970 show, and people have definitely stepped up today. And we 1314 01:16:50,970 --> 01:16:54,090 appreciate that. And we like to thank the executive and 1315 01:16:54,090 --> 01:16:56,910 Associate Executive Producers upfront. These people who come 1316 01:16:56,910 --> 01:17:01,080 in with 200 and above or 300 and above is really appreciated. We 1317 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,720 started off with Julian carpenter from Glenwood Springs, 1318 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:09,240 Colorado, with $1,000. Who says I would like to be known as Sir 1319 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,920 blue J of the western slope. Can I get a wet napkin and some 1320 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,970 small rocks at the round table? I think we can handle that 1321 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:23,160 right? small rocks in a wet way. I was kind of wondering what is 1322 01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,550 the deal with these small napkin and wet napkin in small rocks? 1323 01:17:27,090 --> 01:17:30,390 Can I get a quick karma from my mom so that she can be released 1324 01:17:30,390 --> 01:17:34,170 from the cold communist clutches of Canada? Thanks. Yes, 1325 01:17:34,170 --> 01:17:36,150 absolutely. You got that for your mom? 1326 01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:38,010 Unknown: You've got karma. 1327 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:46,740 John C Dvorak: Sir night DC in Sherwood Oregon, comes in with 1328 01:17:46,740 --> 01:17:52,350 885 that's a double D boobs. That's the Double D boot the big 1329 01:17:52,350 --> 01:17:58,470 boobs big boobs. Yes. Switcheroo thank you both could I get a 1330 01:17:58,470 --> 01:18:02,460 house coming from my wife this donation and 319 should Dame her 1331 01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:07,770 till she gets the credit for this. Once she's back home she 1332 01:18:07,770 --> 01:18:12,180 can choose for now, though Dame bronc rider of the mountain 1333 01:18:12,180 --> 01:18:15,240 desert will be her moniker. Okay. We'll 1334 01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:16,440 Adam Curry: do that for now. You bet. 1335 01:18:16,710 --> 01:18:17,790 John C Dvorak: I guess he's the Bronx 1336 01:18:17,820 --> 01:18:19,170 Unknown: got karma. 1337 01:18:20,940 --> 01:18:24,030 Adam Curry: So I'm going to make her the do the switcheroo here. 1338 01:18:24,030 --> 01:18:30,990 Make sure we get that situated perfectly. Okay, boom. Onward to 1339 01:18:30,990 --> 01:18:36,480 $400 from Lyle poate podi poate p o te Concord North Carolina. 1340 01:18:36,900 --> 01:18:41,970 Okay boys. This donation makes me a knight. I shall be called 1341 01:18:41,970 --> 01:18:45,030 the Knight of freedom mountain Keep up the good work no karma 1342 01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:50,700 no jingles call out to my smokin hot wife as a douchebag and he 1343 01:18:50,700 --> 01:18:53,040 says Welcome to the family brother curry blessings to all 1344 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:53,610 Thank you. 1345 01:18:55,230 --> 01:18:59,670 John C Dvorak: That brings us to serve pice and Peoria Arizona 1346 01:18:59,730 --> 01:19:00,840 Adam Curry: songs you don't think 1347 01:19:01,500 --> 01:19:07,350 John C Dvorak: you're already sure it's Pisac he's in Arizona 1348 01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:11,640 greetings from Sir pist and of Peoria. My previous instant 1349 01:19:11,670 --> 01:19:15,300 donation did not include a note thanks John and Adam for all you 1350 01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:18,990 do. Nowhere else can you get this content? Can you get it to 1351 01:19:18,990 --> 01:19:24,090 to the head camera like crackle cackle, Campbell cackle and can 1352 01:19:24,090 --> 01:19:25,350 you see that juice? 1353 01:19:25,380 --> 01:19:26,310 Adam Curry: I think you can. 1354 01:19:33,090 --> 01:19:37,620 John C Dvorak: My gosh, can you see that juice? Yeah. And that 1355 01:19:37,620 --> 01:19:43,350 was 336 dot 6633. See? Oh, yeah, 1356 01:19:43,380 --> 01:19:46,620 Adam Curry: interesting. Zach Nanus is in Los Angeles, 1357 01:19:46,620 --> 01:19:51,330 California. Sorry to hear that $333.33 and says John and Adam. 1358 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,480 This donation brings me one step closer to knighthood, which I 1359 01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:58,230 plan to achieve this calendar year. I was compelled to donate 1360 01:19:58,230 --> 01:20:01,110 for my third time listening to some This donation segment 1361 01:20:01,140 --> 01:20:05,010 Admittedly, I do occasionally skip the donation segment to get 1362 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:09,570 back to the good stuff. But while doing the dishes last 1363 01:20:09,570 --> 01:20:13,020 night, I let the donations from Sunday's episode play through. 1364 01:20:13,380 --> 01:20:18,510 And boy am I glad I did. When Adam played the government 1365 01:20:18,510 --> 01:20:22,920 official calling for Holden Hiscock. I absolutely lost it 1366 01:20:23,070 --> 01:20:25,950 and was cracking up had I skipped the donation segment, I 1367 01:20:25,950 --> 01:20:28,650 would have not heard this hilarious clip, and I shall 1368 01:20:28,650 --> 01:20:32,460 never skip it again. This was clearly a sign from the universe 1369 01:20:32,460 --> 01:20:35,190 that I needed to make a big donation to the show and here we 1370 01:20:35,190 --> 01:20:38,520 are. It may have been a silly clip. But the perfect fusion of 1371 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:42,180 news deconstruction and hilarity is what makes this by far the 1372 01:20:42,180 --> 01:20:46,260 best podcast in the universe. And there's nothing better and 1373 01:20:46,290 --> 01:20:49,680 there's not better ways of supporting them with a little 1374 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,310 treasure. May I request a little health commerce myself for all 1375 01:20:53,310 --> 01:20:55,620 those who need it? Thank you both for your courage. Yes, you 1376 01:20:55,620 --> 01:20:57,660 may Jack and thank you for that. Thanks for listening. 1377 01:21:01,620 --> 01:21:05,250 John C Dvorak: Sure, no comes in from David David Fuka Soto also 1378 01:21:05,250 --> 01:21:10,110 333 Dots research from Gladstone, Missouri. And he just 1379 01:21:10,110 --> 01:21:14,100 says I heart no agenda, job karma, please. Mercy, 1380 01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:18,540 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. 1381 01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:24,600 Adam Curry: That's interesting. He's usually really busy and 1382 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,660 overseas and everything. He's looking for jobs karma. 1383 01:21:28,170 --> 01:21:30,750 John C Dvorak: Nice. Yeah. Settling in. 1384 01:21:32,010 --> 01:21:34,560 Adam Curry: Welcome Home brother. Steve Bryson Bountiful, 1385 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,860 Utah 333 dot 33 Thanks for each and every episode, this little 1386 01:21:37,860 --> 01:21:41,520 donation pales in comparison to the sanity and value you both 1387 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,450 bring to us all but it's truly heartfelt. Be well, thank you, 1388 01:21:45,450 --> 01:21:45,810 Steve. 1389 01:21:48,270 --> 01:21:51,120 John C Dvorak: Now we have see there's a note here and we'll 1390 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,530 look it up chap Williams. 1391 01:21:52,530 --> 01:21:53,400 Adam Curry: Do you have that note? 1392 01:21:54,000 --> 01:22:00,540 John C Dvorak: I Williams comes in a lot. And this is the 1393 01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,840 discount this has happened before chap Williams comes to 1394 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,860 this or checks from the bank. Because that's the way it's 1395 01:22:07,860 --> 01:22:13,080 gray. And Chaplins has been sending us 33333 including two 1396 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,710 times in a row a couple of shows ago were like two or three days 1397 01:22:16,710 --> 01:22:19,710 apart and I've not heard from him. But we'll give him a double 1398 01:22:19,710 --> 01:22:21,090 up karma. Yeah. 1399 01:22:23,370 --> 01:22:31,230 Adam Curry: You've got karma 333 Oh, this is the Indian no agenda 1400 01:22:31,230 --> 01:22:34,890 meetup raffle. And they held that in Greenwood, Indiana and 1401 01:22:34,890 --> 01:22:37,410 it means we have a switcheroo the way this works and a lot of 1402 01:22:37,530 --> 01:22:41,280 meetup groups are doing this. We like it a lot. Or they all throw 1403 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,890 money into the pot and then they have a raffle or a quiz or 1404 01:22:43,890 --> 01:22:47,250 something else. Some way for someone to win the executive 1405 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:51,480 producer ship for the episodes. So this goes to Alicia mcomber 1406 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,990 mcomber Switcheroo for her longtime listener first time 1407 01:22:54,990 --> 01:22:56,670 donor I would like to do douching please 1408 01:22:58,230 --> 01:23:00,660 Unknown: use ben de deuced I have been 1409 01:23:00,660 --> 01:23:02,940 Adam Curry: listened to no agenda since my boyfriend hit me 1410 01:23:02,940 --> 01:23:05,220 in the mouth just over a year ago took me a couple of months 1411 01:23:05,220 --> 01:23:08,190 of listening on and off to get the show but once I fell in love 1412 01:23:08,190 --> 01:23:10,980 with it, I've never missed an episode. I would also like to 1413 01:23:10,980 --> 01:23:13,380 call out my boyfriend who hit her in the mouth apparently 1414 01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:18,360 Joshua Chrome as the ultimate douchebag she's been listening 1415 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:25,080 since 2016 and still has not donated dude. I would also like 1416 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,840 to say thank you to everyone at my first no agenda meetup since 1417 01:23:27,870 --> 01:23:30,900 this past Sunday in Indianapolis I would not have reached 1418 01:23:30,900 --> 01:23:33,870 executive producer on my first donation without them everybody 1419 01:23:33,870 --> 01:23:36,780 was kind and welcoming. And they had a good time meeting 1420 01:23:36,780 --> 01:23:41,760 everyone. No jingles no karma. And Hui Hui, you got it. Thank 1421 01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:42,570 you very much, Alicia. 1422 01:23:44,580 --> 01:23:45,660 John C Dvorak: And we come to 1423 01:23:46,290 --> 01:23:48,360 Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness, Tina is making a pot roast and 1424 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,270 it's making me hungry. I'm smelling it from here. 1425 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,790 John C Dvorak: Ryan Tiernan in North Providence, Rhode Island 1426 01:23:56,790 --> 01:24:00,480 see separate email sent to John $333. And in fact, he did send 1427 01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:04,770 an email he did not it didn't get forwarded to Jay because he 1428 01:24:04,770 --> 01:24:07,650 didn't use donation in the subject line which I tried to 1429 01:24:07,650 --> 01:24:11,760 remind everybody to do and some people forget or whatever, but I 1430 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,570 want to before I read the note, I'm going to tell you to put him 1431 01:24:15,570 --> 01:24:23,280 on the birthday list. Okay, April 1, no other details. So 1432 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,900 he's an April Fool's boy. All right and Ryan Tiernan birthday 1433 01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:31,020 list I'm a relative newbie writes no agenda but in a short 1434 01:24:31,020 --> 01:24:33,180 period of time have come to tremendous the value of the 1435 01:24:33,180 --> 01:24:38,190 analysis and levity you bring to us listeners as Nero fiddles. 1436 01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,920 I'm on the knighthood layaway program, but when to step it up 1437 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,280 this month and share some karma with my jujitsu buddy Brian 1438 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:52,290 Hall, recently launching the high class white trash apparel 1439 01:24:52,290 --> 01:24:55,860 line. He is bringing killer hats, tees and hoodies to the 1440 01:24:55,860 --> 01:25:00,480 rednecks, patriots and slaves alike. Please share some goat 1441 01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:05,370 karma first venture and check out his site at HC white 1442 01:25:05,370 --> 01:25:12,720 trash.com all one word is that it? What's the White? No, what's 1443 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:17,490 the HC stand for Wonder? Oh high class high class okay AC white 1444 01:25:17,490 --> 01:25:20,490 trash.com Keep up the amazing work and thank you for your 1445 01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:26,160 courage PS as an anti exit strategy put those trolls and 1446 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:30,030 their CPUs to work mining but bitcoin does for the show. 1447 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:35,160 Adam Curry: Yeah, trolls start mining Bitcoin for us. There we 1448 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:35,490 go. 1449 01:25:36,390 --> 01:25:39,330 Unknown: You've got karma. 1450 01:25:39,690 --> 01:25:43,440 Adam Curry: I'm looking at. HC white trash.com It's kind of 1451 01:25:43,440 --> 01:25:43,950 funny. 1452 01:25:45,180 --> 01:25:45,960 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was there. 1453 01:25:46,230 --> 01:25:50,340 Adam Curry: Oh, it's it's apparel. So it's high class 1454 01:25:50,430 --> 01:25:56,910 white trash. He's got hoodies 100% Fake and free. Yeah, this. 1455 01:25:57,690 --> 01:26:00,270 There might be something I might get some of this. It looks kind 1456 01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:00,780 of cool. 1457 01:26:01,380 --> 01:26:02,250 John C Dvorak: We'll check it out. 1458 01:26:02,370 --> 01:26:07,560 Adam Curry: Yeah, I will. Onward with Rene Bernhard scooter. From 1459 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:13,440 gosl It's in Switzerland. 333 I have no notes from Rene. So 1460 01:26:13,470 --> 01:26:19,530 Rene. Get a double up karma. Thanks, Renee. You've got karma. 1461 01:26:19,950 --> 01:26:21,870 John C Dvorak: Let me look again because I thought there was 1462 01:26:21,870 --> 01:26:25,770 somebody that came in from Switzerland but I'll look yeah, 1463 01:26:26,010 --> 01:26:26,910 why don't you keep reading? 1464 01:26:26,970 --> 01:26:31,980 Adam Curry: Okay, we have Amber Reese Reese de la Torre. Recent 1465 01:26:31,980 --> 01:26:35,310 receive Atari hope I said that right St. Clair Shores Michigan 1466 01:26:35,340 --> 01:26:37,650 Adam in the morning Adam and John keeping it short and sweet 1467 01:26:37,650 --> 01:26:41,400 endless thanks for all the laughs and the true value you 1468 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,700 provide us Can I please add David M to the birthday list for 1469 01:26:44,700 --> 01:26:47,670 the 330 show he's added and can I get a biscuit on my birthday 1470 01:26:47,670 --> 01:26:48,030 jingle? 1471 01:26:48,030 --> 01:26:50,460 Unknown: Yeah, always give me a biscuit on my birthday. 1472 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,730 Adam Curry: Next one is protection burr in Michigan. 1473 01:26:53,790 --> 01:27:00,660 Thank you, Bert. Ralph in Miami. $329.30 Hmm, I wonder what that 1474 01:27:00,660 --> 01:27:03,780 is. That's what that is about. There must be something to it 1475 01:27:03,780 --> 01:27:06,990 from ralpha Miami is all we got there on the note. So we'll just 1476 01:27:06,990 --> 01:27:10,680 have to accept that numerology we'd love numerology dames, 1477 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,880 Zelda, a Muskegon, Michigan, switcheroo to win a $50 first 1478 01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,670 Associate Executive Producer, please credit this to Sir grumpy 1479 01:27:17,670 --> 01:27:21,780 old Boomer from his loving dame's Zelda of the turtle round 1480 01:27:21,780 --> 01:27:25,320 for a 69th birthday, which is March 30. And I would like to 1481 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:29,700 jingle 6969 Please, bet you would. I got it for you. 1482 01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:38,430 John C Dvorak: 6969 Are you back? Yeah, I can't there's 1483 01:27:38,430 --> 01:27:40,860 nothing there. You're gonna have to take the next two notes. I'll 1484 01:27:40,860 --> 01:27:43,500 take the next one which is nothing note which is Arthur 1485 01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:48,600 sundry in Riverside. I go look for him to $250 So give him a 1486 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:49,380 double of karma. 1487 01:27:50,250 --> 01:27:53,820 Unknown: You've got karma. 1488 01:27:54,930 --> 01:27:57,990 Adam Curry: We're getting to the end here. Tom Gendron, Clancy, 1489 01:27:57,990 --> 01:28:01,650 Montana, row ducks. 222 22 in the morning, gentlemen, my first 1490 01:28:01,650 --> 01:28:04,080 time donating after listening for about half a year. Please 1491 01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:04,380 do. 1492 01:28:06,060 --> 01:28:07,920 Unknown: You've been de deuced. 1493 01:28:08,010 --> 01:28:10,740 Adam Curry: Also Abby to the birthday list. It's my 45th trip 1494 01:28:10,740 --> 01:28:13,650 around the sun. Please send me some entrepreneur jobs, karma 1495 01:28:13,650 --> 01:28:18,330 and some pass this legislation karma. Love you all. Thank you 1496 01:28:18,330 --> 01:28:20,610 very much. Yes, I'm gonna give you that. And then I want to 1497 01:28:20,610 --> 01:28:22,110 read a little bit of his note here. 1498 01:28:22,380 --> 01:28:24,060 Unknown: You've got karma. 1499 01:28:26,460 --> 01:28:28,350 Adam Curry: Which I did check if it was okay to read this. On 1500 01:28:28,350 --> 01:28:31,260 Sunday, you were talking about National Guard deployments to 1501 01:28:31,260 --> 01:28:35,130 Syria. I'm a recently retired Sergeant First Class from the EM 1502 01:28:35,130 --> 01:28:39,030 Tang, Montana National Guard. I can tell you that the majority 1503 01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:42,210 of the operations in Iraq, Syria, Africa and formally 1504 01:28:42,210 --> 01:28:45,750 Afghanistan are conducted by the National Guard, a large 1505 01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:49,500 contingent are based in Kuwait and dispersed from there. This 1506 01:28:49,500 --> 01:28:52,620 has been the case for 20 plus years, as long as these wars are 1507 01:28:52,620 --> 01:28:56,370 conducted under the authorization of use of the AU 1508 01:28:56,370 --> 01:29:03,780 FM authorization force mandate. I thought it was AU. Anyway, I 1509 01:29:03,780 --> 01:29:04,080 think it 1510 01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:08,010 John C Dvorak: is au MF I think a minute. Yeah, authorization of 1511 01:29:08,010 --> 01:29:08,850 military force 1512 01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:12,180 Adam Curry: dating back to 2001 instead of formal declaration of 1513 01:29:12,180 --> 01:29:15,150 war, and I don't see this ever changing. Yes. Unfortunately, 1514 01:29:15,390 --> 01:29:16,230 that should be Congress. 1515 01:29:16,589 --> 01:29:18,779 John C Dvorak: This is going to be repealed in the next is going 1516 01:29:18,779 --> 01:29:19,439 to be repealed. 1517 01:29:20,009 --> 01:29:23,039 Adam Curry: What the Congress has to declare war. 1518 01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:25,380 John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, this is I have some clips about it. 1519 01:29:25,470 --> 01:29:28,860 It just just showed up. It looks like that everyone 1520 01:29:29,639 --> 01:29:32,459 Adam Curry: was played now. Serving for the military support 1521 01:29:32,459 --> 01:29:35,099 funding should be repealed. Yep. Okay, here we go. 1522 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,520 Unknown: Next, the Senate today voting to repeal authorizations 1523 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:42,060 for the use of military force against Iraq. This is a 1524 01:29:42,060 --> 01:29:45,930 significant moment as Congress tries to reassert authority and 1525 01:29:45,930 --> 01:29:47,670 military intervention abroad. 1526 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:52,350 Every year we keep these AUMF 's on the books is another chance 1527 01:29:52,350 --> 01:29:57,300 for a future administration to abuse the War Powers belong in 1528 01:29:57,300 --> 01:30:00,300 the hands of Congress. And so we have an obligation shouldn't 1529 01:30:00,330 --> 01:30:03,990 prevent future presidents from exploiting these AUMF to Bumble 1530 01:30:03,990 --> 01:30:06,570 us into a new Middle East conflict. 1531 01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:11,280 authorization for the use of military force gave the US 1532 01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,850 president broad powers to conduct military operations 1533 01:30:15,060 --> 01:30:19,650 without approval from Congress. Repealing the 1991 and 2002 1534 01:30:19,650 --> 01:30:23,610 authorizations for use of force in Iraq marks a formal 1535 01:30:23,610 --> 01:30:27,330 conclusion to the conflicts. It's also a symbolic reassertion 1536 01:30:27,330 --> 01:30:31,470 of Congress's ability to declare war. Some Republicans including 1537 01:30:31,470 --> 01:30:34,500 Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, oppose repealing the 1538 01:30:34,500 --> 01:30:37,710 war authorizations. They argued the authorizations give the 1539 01:30:37,710 --> 01:30:41,190 White House flexibility to respond to threats around the 1540 01:30:41,190 --> 01:30:45,360 world at a dangerous time. The bill now goes to the house for a 1541 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,840 vote. Speaker McCarthy has signaled support for it. The 1542 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,450 White House also said it supports the measure. 1543 01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,660 Adam Curry: Wow, that's surprising. Yeah, 1544 01:30:54,690 --> 01:30:56,130 John C Dvorak: you can hear that in the news. Did you 1545 01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,440 Adam Curry: know because the military industrial complex 1546 01:30:58,440 --> 01:31:01,920 surely won't have it. Um, it'll be interesting to see what what 1547 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,850 people fold or buckle on this one. By the way, only, only 1548 01:31:05,850 --> 01:31:08,550 about 150 Trolls left so they got this content. 1549 01:31:08,550 --> 01:31:09,810 Congratulations, trolls. 1550 01:31:12,330 --> 01:31:15,570 John C Dvorak: 50 left at a 2000 Yes, not bad. It's not bad. Oh, 1551 01:31:15,570 --> 01:31:18,090 you mean the left attention but there was only 100? No. 1552 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,560 Adam Curry: No, they left they bailed. That's a more important 1553 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:27,360 thing to do than listen to content. Continues. I've been 1554 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,790 working a grassroots effort in Montana to get legislation 1555 01:31:29,790 --> 01:31:33,240 passed called defend the guards a lot the Lord the Lord, the law 1556 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,730 would prevent the governor from releasing National Guard 1557 01:31:35,730 --> 01:31:38,490 soldiers to combat combat deployments without a formal 1558 01:31:38,490 --> 01:31:42,810 declaration of war. Yeah, I agree. Senate bill, SB 560. Will 1559 01:31:42,810 --> 01:31:45,360 be heard in committee on Friday. We need people to call the state 1560 01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,330 senators tell them to support the bill. Yes, that's how it 1561 01:31:48,330 --> 01:31:51,870 works these days, get off tick tock call the thing called a 1562 01:31:51,870 --> 01:31:52,290 phone 1563 01:31:53,010 --> 01:31:57,720 John C Dvorak: these days. bass note and other notes which 1564 01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:03,090 indicate our National Guard, which is run by the states for 1565 01:32:03,330 --> 01:32:08,160 various state purposes, is not just supposed to be lifted out 1566 01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:11,940 to to the desert or any place that we have an army for that. 1567 01:32:13,380 --> 01:32:16,440 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, of course, the Army has been so 1568 01:32:16,440 --> 01:32:19,380 decimated, and that's probably about right, decimated only 1569 01:32:19,380 --> 01:32:25,800 10% 8000 service members wouldn't take the shot. So they 1570 01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:29,190 they're allowed to come back now. Believe it or not, if you'd 1571 01:32:29,190 --> 01:32:33,600 want to get jobs. So be heard this Friday. Yeah, so that's 1572 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:37,050 tomorrow. So call today SB 560. Call your state senators tell 1573 01:32:37,050 --> 01:32:39,930 them to support the bill. We had it proposed in the House last 1574 01:32:39,930 --> 01:32:42,570 month and it was narrowly defeated by 11 votes. So we have 1575 01:32:42,570 --> 01:32:46,860 30 co sponsors supporting SB 560 about 26 other states that have 1576 01:32:46,860 --> 01:32:49,800 proposed similar legislation this year, and Montana's effort 1577 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:53,010 even got mentioned on Tucker Carlson show oh wow he says oh 1578 01:32:53,010 --> 01:32:53,850 yeah oh wow. 1579 01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:55,590 John C Dvorak: Wow far out. 1580 01:32:55,740 --> 01:32:58,080 Adam Curry: I know this is a long note not John's favorite 1581 01:32:58,110 --> 01:33:01,710 that was content this is this is this is good content. We used it 1582 01:33:02,310 --> 01:33:04,140 felt it was important to get this information out there. 1583 01:33:04,140 --> 01:33:07,290 Hopefully no agenda nation can make some calls as a link and a 1584 01:33:07,290 --> 01:33:11,640 website to sign the petition defend the guard.us Defend the 1585 01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,210 guard.us Thank you for all that you do you both are a national 1586 01:33:15,210 --> 01:33:19,950 treasure respectfully, Tom. John drawn all right. Thank you very 1587 01:33:19,950 --> 01:33:21,120 much, Tom. Appreciate that. 1588 01:33:21,150 --> 01:33:24,180 Unknown: Yeah, it was a good density. That's a good content. 1589 01:33:24,180 --> 01:33:24,990 No, no, not 1590 01:33:24,990 --> 01:33:25,920 Adam Curry: just donation. 1591 01:33:27,270 --> 01:33:30,240 John C Dvorak: Robert darland is next and Shelby Township 1592 01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:36,810 Michigan 20133 And all he says in his note is net Ned. 1593 01:33:37,530 --> 01:33:38,490 Adam Curry: Oh what's net net? 1594 01:33:38,940 --> 01:33:41,760 John C Dvorak: No, it's net net in the chat room. Oh and his net 1595 01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:42,870 net the artist 1596 01:33:42,900 --> 01:33:45,930 Adam Curry: net net oh no agenda social net. Oh, so Robert. 1597 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:48,360 That's right. Thank you Nana. 1598 01:33:49,590 --> 01:33:50,700 John C Dvorak: Give me a double up karma. 1599 01:33:53,040 --> 01:34:03,120 Adam Curry: You've got karma and we have sir Jimmy James, 1600 01:34:03,150 --> 01:34:06,390 Oklahoma City Oklahoma $200. Almost rounding out our list 1601 01:34:06,390 --> 01:34:10,980 here. ITM okie city meetup donation new drive idea. Oh, 1602 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,980 he's got an idea. Any D bags that show up to my meetup will 1603 01:34:13,980 --> 01:34:19,950 be d d backed by a donation from me. Whoa. To the Oklahoma City 1604 01:34:19,950 --> 01:34:25,800 meetup. Anyone any one of those? I guess the okie city meetup. He 1605 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:30,330 will. He will if you show up. He'll be he'll DD bag you. This 1606 01:34:30,330 --> 01:34:34,740 one goes to Langdon. The D bag at my last meetup. Well, let's 1607 01:34:36,810 --> 01:34:38,310 Unknown: spend D deuced. 1608 01:34:38,850 --> 01:34:42,450 Adam Curry: From God's abundance to me, I give you all right. 1609 01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:46,950 This is good as a nice, nice gesture and a way to go go to 1610 01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:50,280 his meetup. And we wrap it up with Anonymous from Colorado 1611 01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:54,270 Springs with 200 bucks no jangles and no karma. And that's 1612 01:34:54,270 --> 01:34:58,140 the way to go. So want to thank all these folks for making show 1613 01:34:58,590 --> 01:35:03,360 1542 A good show. Yes, it is a good show. It's a great show. 1614 01:35:03,420 --> 01:35:06,750 And it's only the rest are these call outs later? Yes, we have a 1615 01:35:06,750 --> 01:35:09,150 couple more. And we got birthdays. And we do have a dame 1616 01:35:09,150 --> 01:35:12,210 and a couple of nights. And of course, the meetups, but for now 1617 01:35:12,210 --> 01:35:14,190 we'd like to thank these executive and Associate 1618 01:35:14,190 --> 01:35:17,550 Executive producers for supporting us royally today, it 1619 01:35:17,550 --> 01:35:20,130 is much appreciated, you can do that too. If you'd like to go 1620 01:35:20,130 --> 01:35:20,460 here, 1621 01:35:20,490 --> 01:35:24,750 Unknown: for.org/and. A Forever credits 1622 01:35:24,750 --> 01:35:26,640 Adam Curry: will go vouch for you, thank you for supporting 1623 01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,020 1542 1624 01:35:28,380 --> 01:35:32,760 Unknown: Our formula is this, we go out, we get people in the 1625 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:33,060 mouth. 1626 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,130 John C Dvorak: Have one more note to read. Kind of funny. 1627 01:35:50,850 --> 01:35:53,940 This is from one of our producers. And she's Megan. And 1628 01:35:53,940 --> 01:35:57,930 she writes in Hello, my husband is a religious listening to your 1629 01:35:57,930 --> 01:36:01,560 show. So I sometimes hear parts of it. Also, while I generally 1630 01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:05,790 agree with many things you say, I get frustrated sometimes with 1631 01:36:05,790 --> 01:36:11,910 how you talk about teachers in the United States. Oh, I have 1632 01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:14,400 been teaching at public elementary schools for the past 1633 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,540 15 years. And I find it very bothersome. In your show, by the 1634 01:36:18,540 --> 01:36:21,750 way, we've only talked about what she's gonna complain about 1635 01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:25,830 twice bothersome in your show that you have said teachers are 1636 01:36:25,830 --> 01:36:29,580 not teaching students to read analog clocks. 1637 01:36:30,630 --> 01:36:33,330 Adam Curry: I have? I don't think we've said that. I think 1638 01:36:33,330 --> 01:36:37,170 we've said people cannot read analog clocks. And that might be 1639 01:36:37,170 --> 01:36:39,660 education related. I don't think we blame teachers. 1640 01:36:39,690 --> 01:36:41,130 John C Dvorak: I blame everything on the education 1641 01:36:41,130 --> 01:36:43,860 system. So she's I think she's right. I have taught first, 1642 01:36:43,860 --> 01:36:47,400 second and fourth grades in Missouri. And I assure you that 1643 01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,610 at each of those levels, we do in fact teach the children to 1644 01:36:50,610 --> 01:36:54,570 read analog clocks. The difficulty is only analog clock 1645 01:36:54,570 --> 01:36:58,830 my students generally see in a day is the one in my classroom. 1646 01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,460 This skill, like so many others in early education is one that 1647 01:37:02,460 --> 01:37:05,610 needs to be practiced repeatedly and regularly to be retained 1648 01:37:05,820 --> 01:37:09,480 until families start using analog clocks in their homes 1649 01:37:09,480 --> 01:37:13,800 again, or giving their kids analog watches. Students will 1650 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:17,490 not become efficient at reading analog clocks, no matter how 1651 01:37:17,490 --> 01:37:21,570 many times they're taught in school. I agree we see the same 1652 01:37:21,570 --> 01:37:25,890 issue with counting money. And she complains about that, too. 1653 01:37:26,460 --> 01:37:27,540 So well. 1654 01:37:28,110 --> 01:37:31,920 Adam Curry: I agree. I agree. People don't know how to how to 1655 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,460 give change. Not that it's a skill you need anymore. But 1656 01:37:35,790 --> 01:37:38,100 yeah, that's a problem to problem. 1657 01:37:39,450 --> 01:37:42,570 John C Dvorak: Me, sometimes the customer makes out on that. 1658 01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:49,890 Adam Curry: So the the American media model was in high gear 1659 01:37:50,580 --> 01:37:58,050 with this shooting in Nashville at the covenant school. And as 1660 01:37:58,050 --> 01:38:01,890 you know, the the American media model is that of outrage. It's 1661 01:38:01,890 --> 01:38:04,140 your fault. No, it's your fault is because of this. Because of 1662 01:38:04,140 --> 01:38:07,320 that. We're not going to give you that on your no agenda show. 1663 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,110 We may give you a few examples just to show what's what's 1664 01:38:10,110 --> 01:38:15,510 really going on. But first, I'd like to say this is not a hoax. 1665 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:20,130 Even though yes, a couple of people showed up who have 1666 01:38:20,130 --> 01:38:24,750 survived school shootings before, I believe those to be on 1667 01:38:24,750 --> 01:38:28,500 the payroll of the anti gun lobby. And they're probably 1668 01:38:28,500 --> 01:38:31,590 flown in the next day just to stand there and not really know 1669 01:38:31,590 --> 01:38:33,930 what they're talking about. But to say guns, guns, guns, guns, 1670 01:38:33,930 --> 01:38:37,350 guns. So for those of you who said the crisis actors are out, 1671 01:38:37,740 --> 01:38:43,020 yeah. Yes, I think they're PR agents. And that's why they show 1672 01:38:43,020 --> 01:38:45,330 up. Now, I think most people have seen those videos. 1673 01:38:46,110 --> 01:38:52,680 Unfortunately, two of my friends know many of the families, some 1674 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,020 of them personally, and even some of the children who were 1675 01:38:55,020 --> 01:38:59,760 killed, which and one of my friends was actually a youth 1676 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,840 minister at this at this very school for a couple of years and 1677 01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:07,770 was in the the worship team. And so this is this hits home is 1678 01:39:07,770 --> 01:39:12,150 very, very, very difficult to just discuss this cavalierly. 1679 01:39:13,620 --> 01:39:16,260 But there are a couple of things we need to talk about. And I 1680 01:39:16,260 --> 01:39:20,250 would say the most important one. Yes, we're all waiting for 1681 01:39:20,250 --> 01:39:24,420 the for the manifesto, but I think you can already kind of 1682 01:39:24,420 --> 01:39:28,200 guess what's going to be in it. We are dealing right now it kind 1683 01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:32,100 of goes back to the teacher. Although this is not all 1684 01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:37,800 teachers. But in general we have raised an entire generation of 1685 01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:41,670 under educated over socialized and sadly fully medicated 1686 01:39:41,670 --> 01:39:44,460 children. And it's you know, I were actually talking about this 1687 01:39:44,490 --> 01:39:48,150 we have three three daughters amongst I have two stepdaughters 1688 01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:52,530 and she has one stepdaughter and at one point or another, all of 1689 01:39:52,530 --> 01:39:59,070 them have been prescribed some kind of medication. Now what are 1690 01:39:59,070 --> 01:40:06,690 the chances of that? At so so it is an outrage how much 1691 01:40:06,690 --> 01:40:10,680 medication is being prescribed to young people. And and the 1692 01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,850 shooter in Nashville was I think 28 From all the reports. This is 1693 01:40:14,850 --> 01:40:18,600 still an age where a lot of people are either given an SSRI 1694 01:40:18,630 --> 01:40:23,340 antidepressant or meth, you know, Adderall. It's not 1695 01:40:23,340 --> 01:40:26,880 discussed. It's not talked about the media, just like they won't 1696 01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:30,120 talk about, you know, what was happening with COVID. They're 1697 01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,240 never going to bite the hand that feeds them. This, I think, 1698 01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:37,950 is one of the biggest problems. But what's happened in America, 1699 01:40:37,950 --> 01:40:42,690 certainly very suddenly, over the past couple of years, is 1700 01:40:42,690 --> 01:40:47,850 black lives matter. Black Lives Matters has been replaced, 1701 01:40:48,780 --> 01:40:53,520 initially with LGBTQ and now it's just T. It's trans and 1702 01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:54,720 trans kids. 1703 01:40:56,250 --> 01:40:58,620 John C Dvorak: And a new term that is cropping up his 1704 01:40:58,620 --> 01:41:04,260 transgender wrist, and transgenderism, though really 1705 01:41:05,010 --> 01:41:06,750 interesting for those you'll see him. 1706 01:41:08,010 --> 01:41:13,440 Adam Curry: So this is being abused. I have a lot of 1707 01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,500 different pieces of information that are actually quite 1708 01:41:16,500 --> 01:41:19,410 interesting, that Tina and I have been looking at the first 1709 01:41:19,410 --> 01:41:23,430 thing that that you find out is that many children who have 1710 01:41:23,460 --> 01:41:28,020 autism, and that is, is apparently really on the rise 1711 01:41:28,020 --> 01:41:30,510 talked about in the last show, certainly California, mainly 1712 01:41:30,510 --> 01:41:33,270 because there's more, more people looking forward and 1713 01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:37,470 testing and diagnosing. And I think that over the years, we've 1714 01:41:37,470 --> 01:41:41,640 discussed autism, and if you are a kid that likes to walk on your 1715 01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,970 tippy toes, you're on the spectrum, you have autism, if 1716 01:41:44,970 --> 01:41:47,550 you'd like to spend more, we had spinners. We talked about 1717 01:41:47,550 --> 01:41:52,350 spinning kids, but that's autism. There is an entire 1718 01:41:52,350 --> 01:41:55,920 contingent of medical professionals, not all, so I am 1719 01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:01,470 generalizing, who will who will talk to these children, and will 1720 01:42:01,500 --> 01:42:06,000 diagnose them as trans. This is your problem, you're trans. And 1721 01:42:06,030 --> 01:42:10,560 then a lot of these medical professionals are people who 1722 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:15,780 come from cosmetic surgery cosmetic professional, it's a 1723 01:42:15,780 --> 01:42:21,510 money grab of epic proportion, one child taken through trans a 1724 01:42:21,510 --> 01:42:27,780 trans gender transformation is worth about $7 million, one 1725 01:42:27,780 --> 01:42:31,680 child to the medical community, and it's all being paid for, 1726 01:42:32,130 --> 01:42:36,150 from, from the banks and basically insurance companies. 1727 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:44,070 And, and it turns out that a lot of school districts and I think 1728 01:42:44,100 --> 01:42:47,730 I'd love for some educators to chime in, are seeing something 1729 01:42:47,730 --> 01:42:53,820 called Screen induced Autism Behavior, which is even more 1730 01:42:53,820 --> 01:42:58,050 insidious. So when when you put children on their screens early 1731 01:42:58,050 --> 01:43:02,550 on, this is parents fault. But also look, if you're addicted to 1732 01:43:02,550 --> 01:43:05,700 screens, you're gonna give your kids a screen, go walk through 1733 01:43:05,700 --> 01:43:08,940 the mall, look at the children in their strollers, how many of 1734 01:43:08,940 --> 01:43:12,630 them have an iPad, and it just, you know, just just swiping 1735 01:43:12,630 --> 01:43:15,660 away, tap it. Oh, it's so great, Jimmy, he's so smart. He 1736 01:43:15,660 --> 01:43:19,890 understands how to use the iPad. In schools, you're seeing this 1737 01:43:19,890 --> 01:43:25,290 it's called Screen induced Autism Behavior. It is not pure 1738 01:43:25,290 --> 01:43:28,410 autism. Because when you remove the screen, there's some 1739 01:43:28,410 --> 01:43:32,220 withdrawal symptoms, but within a pretty short timeframe, then 1740 01:43:32,250 --> 01:43:36,750 the behaviors go away. But this is also an opportunity for trans 1741 01:43:36,750 --> 01:43:41,460 to be a diagnosis. And not taking away from any anyone who 1742 01:43:41,460 --> 01:43:45,840 is actually has body dysmorphia that also exists. But in recent 1743 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:49,050 studies, it's all in the shownotes, you will see that of 1744 01:43:49,050 --> 01:43:52,110 the people who consider themselves to be trans or non 1745 01:43:52,110 --> 01:43:57,300 binary, really, it's only about 8%, who actually really feel 1746 01:43:57,300 --> 01:44:00,720 they're trans. A part of this is from the induced behavior 1747 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,870 screens. Part of it is peer pressure. Part of it is 1748 01:44:03,870 --> 01:44:07,470 professionals in the schools. There's a lot of things very, 1749 01:44:07,470 --> 01:44:12,240 very broken in the school system. And so when you have an 1750 01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:16,110 event like this, you get as usual in the American media 1751 01:44:16,110 --> 01:44:21,780 model two sides, you get the side that is saying, well, trans 1752 01:44:21,780 --> 01:44:26,280 people are crazy, and they've got guns and the trans are being 1753 01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:29,250 hyped up into getting guns and protecting themselves, which is 1754 01:44:29,250 --> 01:44:33,750 true. Then you have the other side saying Christian hate trans 1755 01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:36,870 people, and then they've been terrorized by Christians, which 1756 01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:42,390 is also true. But is that the is that the real problem here? Is 1757 01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:46,080 that really what's going on? No. I think the medication part is 1758 01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:51,480 what is not being looked at. And there's one other thing that is 1759 01:44:51,480 --> 01:44:54,330 very concerning that has taken place in the last three years 1760 01:44:54,330 --> 01:44:58,560 which cannot be overlooked. And I have to give it to CBS Sunday. 1761 01:44:58,770 --> 01:45:01,620 They didn't overlook it. And this is what happened to our 1762 01:45:01,620 --> 01:45:04,170 children, certainly in the United States, but worldwide 1763 01:45:04,260 --> 01:45:05,070 during COVID, 1764 01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:10,170 Unknown: it sure looks like the pandemic is over. stadiums are 1765 01:45:10,170 --> 01:45:14,520 open again, crowds are everywhere, and hardly a mask in 1766 01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:19,110 sight. But COVID Heard a lot of things you can easily see, 1767 01:45:19,350 --> 01:45:21,180 especially in schools, 1768 01:45:21,480 --> 01:45:24,240 for like, I just need to stand on a mountaintop. And just 1769 01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:28,140 younger folks, take this seriously. Everything is at 1770 01:45:28,140 --> 01:45:29,880 stake right now. And Geoffrey 1771 01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:33,600 Canada knows. He's the founder of the Harlem Children's Zone in 1772 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,990 Manhattan. We all knew that the pandemic was going to affect 1773 01:45:36,990 --> 01:45:38,820 education. But how bad is it? 1774 01:45:38,909 --> 01:45:43,469 We've got the data now, and things are bad are actually 1775 01:45:43,469 --> 01:45:47,729 worse than most of us thought. In fact, I would tell you that 1776 01:45:47,729 --> 01:45:49,889 we have an education crisis right now. 1777 01:45:50,279 --> 01:45:53,579 The actual numbers vary by community. But according to a 1778 01:45:53,579 --> 01:45:57,149 nationwide test given to fourth and eighth graders, reading 1779 01:45:57,149 --> 01:46:01,859 skills dropped to the lowest point in 30 years. And in math, 1780 01:46:01,889 --> 01:46:05,609 nearly 40% of eighth graders couldn't understand basic 1781 01:46:05,609 --> 01:46:10,769 concepts, the worst performance since testing began back in 69. 1782 01:46:10,829 --> 01:46:11,219 This is 1783 01:46:11,220 --> 01:46:14,880 not just poor kids, who were eliminated in the urban Senate, 1784 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:18,480 it's all over America, there's been a dramatic reduction in 1785 01:46:18,510 --> 01:46:22,890 ELA. And in math scores. This goes along with the loss of 1786 01:46:22,890 --> 01:46:25,620 students in school with the increased violence that's 1787 01:46:25,620 --> 01:46:28,440 happening and the behavioral problems that kids are facing. 1788 01:46:28,890 --> 01:46:32,250 In my career of more than 45 years. I've never seen anything 1789 01:46:32,250 --> 01:46:33,150 close to this. So 1790 01:46:33,150 --> 01:46:35,160 Adam Curry: listen carefully what he's saying behavioral 1791 01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,220 problems. There's a lot going on here. And it's not 1792 01:46:38,220 --> 01:46:41,700 Unknown: hard to see how it happened. Experts say remote 1793 01:46:41,700 --> 01:46:45,570 teaching and a lack of computers at home are to blame. Add to 1794 01:46:45,570 --> 01:46:49,500 that the fear of watching your family members die. And it's no 1795 01:46:49,500 --> 01:46:52,440 wonder millions of young people had trouble learning 1796 01:46:52,529 --> 01:46:55,379 Adam Curry: a reminder reminder, the government your government's 1797 01:46:55,379 --> 01:46:59,519 your state's shut you down shut your children and terrorize your 1798 01:46:59,519 --> 01:47:02,009 children and the media did a good job to 1799 01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,260 Unknown: or even making it through the day, 1800 01:47:04,530 --> 01:47:08,610 we have seen an increase of 50% in the number of children 1801 01:47:08,610 --> 01:47:11,640 presenting to our emergency department, from the beginning 1802 01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:16,200 of the pandemic to last fiscal year 50% 50% of kids 1803 01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:19,680 who are in some sort of mental health crisis. So what did this 1804 01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:21,420 place look like during the spike? 1805 01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:23,280 Another Houston, 1806 01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:26,640 Chief of Psychology at Southern California's children's health, 1807 01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:30,090 Orange County says even she couldn't believe how many kids 1808 01:47:30,090 --> 01:47:30,900 needed help. 1809 01:47:31,409 --> 01:47:34,829 What we're seeing those of us in children's mental health is it 1810 01:47:34,829 --> 01:47:38,249 was burning embers even before the pandemic, and the pandemic 1811 01:47:38,249 --> 01:47:41,069 came in just threw gasoline on that fire, we're seeing more and 1812 01:47:41,069 --> 01:47:44,159 more kids come in who are having suicidal thoughts, we're seeing 1813 01:47:44,159 --> 01:47:46,829 more and more kids come in who are like, My grades have 1814 01:47:46,829 --> 01:47:49,889 dropped, I can't function anymore. And if we don't help 1815 01:47:49,889 --> 01:47:53,219 kids sort of manage some of these mental health concerns, 1816 01:47:53,369 --> 01:47:56,939 they can't learn effectively, because kids are struggling. 1817 01:47:57,239 --> 01:48:01,079 Adam Curry: And if you add into that the screens and in 1818 01:48:01,079 --> 01:48:05,579 particular Tiktok, who as we discussed, like to bring 1819 01:48:05,579 --> 01:48:09,719 communities together. When you have communities on on, you know 1820 01:48:09,719 --> 01:48:13,259 who like conservative things, or you know, Christians, it all 1821 01:48:13,259 --> 01:48:15,809 works, everyone's happy over there. But at the same time, you 1822 01:48:15,809 --> 01:48:19,889 also have communities that say things like this, they obviously 1823 01:48:19,890 --> 01:48:22,110 Unknown: didn't release a motive as to why she shot at the 1824 01:48:22,110 --> 01:48:25,950 school. But I have a pretty good guess. What have Christians been 1825 01:48:25,950 --> 01:48:30,390 doing lately, they've been banning books about LGBT. 1826 01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:34,890 They've been discriminating against the LGBT, they are 1827 01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:38,670 banning drag shows. So people are screaming, oh my god, it's a 1828 01:48:38,670 --> 01:48:42,150 hate crime, a crime against Christians. But how about they 1829 01:48:42,150 --> 01:48:43,890 are the ones that were bullying her first. 1830 01:48:43,950 --> 01:48:47,670 And I can't help but think this trans man targeted a Christian 1831 01:48:47,670 --> 01:48:51,060 school that he attended that he may have had very negative 1832 01:48:51,060 --> 01:48:56,850 experiences at how much the anti LGBTQ legislation impacted his 1833 01:48:56,850 --> 01:48:59,160 mental health to push them to this point. 1834 01:48:59,879 --> 01:49:04,739 People don't just go up in and shoot up a Christian school 1835 01:49:05,039 --> 01:49:08,579 being the demographic that they are in the political climate 1836 01:49:08,579 --> 01:49:13,379 that we're in just because they felt like it like all of the 1837 01:49:13,379 --> 01:49:17,489 other mass shootings when all of these students like just did it 1838 01:49:17,759 --> 01:49:22,619 for fun, or, you know, or anti semitic or nobody would fuck 1839 01:49:22,619 --> 01:49:24,329 them. You know, like those reasons. 1840 01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:27,960 It seems like he was an old student from that Christian 1841 01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:34,320 Academy. Also in Tennessee, where they recently banned drag 1842 01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:41,580 shows in a law that is so vague. My wife who wears men's clothes, 1843 01:49:41,850 --> 01:49:45,900 but identifies as a woman could get arrested walking down the 1844 01:49:45,900 --> 01:49:46,830 street to Tennessee. 1845 01:49:47,580 --> 01:49:50,610 Adam Curry: So these things are clearly not good. When you add 1846 01:49:50,610 --> 01:49:54,060 this to medicated children and you have this type of messaging. 1847 01:49:54,270 --> 01:49:56,910 It's not going to end well. Now the other you got to have a 3d 1848 01:49:56,910 --> 01:50:00,210 view of everybody. You look at the other side, the school is 1849 01:50:00,210 --> 01:50:04,170 connected to PCA Presbyterian Christian church in America, 1850 01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:08,850 which in the 70s, split off from the Presbyterian Church, and 1851 01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:14,520 they're extremely conservative. One of the things that I'm no 1852 01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:18,570 expert on it, but they they won't they won't allow women 1853 01:50:18,570 --> 01:50:23,160 pastors, they want a No woman can educate men, um, just just 1854 01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:28,380 from what I understand from my cursory research on it. So, you 1855 01:50:28,380 --> 01:50:30,900 know, people are different, and people have different views. But 1856 01:50:30,900 --> 01:50:34,170 when you add this the social media, you add the screens, 1857 01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:37,890 which which triggers certain behavior, and you have adults, 1858 01:50:37,890 --> 01:50:41,610 these are adults who are saying this stuff, you have a recipe 1859 01:50:41,610 --> 01:50:43,290 for disaster we but 1860 01:50:43,290 --> 01:50:45,780 Unknown: the bigger picture here, according to educators 1861 01:50:45,780 --> 01:50:49,560 like Geoffrey Canada, is that this could be a kind of lost 1862 01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:53,940 generation, under educated to the point where it drags down 1863 01:50:53,940 --> 01:50:54,720 their future. 1864 01:50:54,750 --> 01:50:58,260 Adam Curry: undereducated, yes, over socialized yes and 1865 01:50:58,290 --> 01:51:02,790 Unknown: ours, I read one study that these kids earnings, their 1866 01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:05,790 lifetime earnings will be affected in the 10s of 1000s of 1867 01:51:05,790 --> 01:51:06,420 dollars. 1868 01:51:06,450 --> 01:51:10,770 So it's a whole cohort of young people who are not going to get 1869 01:51:10,770 --> 01:51:14,160 the kind of education that's gonna allow them to get the best 1870 01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:18,960 jobs, it's going to cost lots of kids 10s of 1000s of dollars 1871 01:51:18,990 --> 01:51:22,830 over their earnings lump sum hundreds of 1000s of dollars, we 1872 01:51:22,830 --> 01:51:26,850 keep forgetting that this is about America, that eight year 1873 01:51:26,850 --> 01:51:31,620 old is going to be 20. When you blink your eye and twin five in 1874 01:51:31,620 --> 01:51:34,830 a short period of time, she needs to be an engineer, he 1875 01:51:34,830 --> 01:51:38,490 needs to be a medical doctor, we need to start thinking about 1876 01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,520 these kids as the resources for this country. 1877 01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:45,720 Canada says there are ways to fix this like intensive tutoring 1878 01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:49,020 throughout the week, extending the school day and keeping 1879 01:51:49,020 --> 01:51:51,690 classrooms open in the summer. Alright, so 1880 01:51:51,690 --> 01:51:54,630 Adam Curry: anyway, CBS goes on with that. But the core problem 1881 01:51:54,630 --> 01:51:58,680 is the medication, the medication is not good. And you 1882 01:51:58,710 --> 01:52:03,450 add to that social media with algorithms, which intentional or 1883 01:52:03,450 --> 01:52:08,490 not, are just destructive. And it's up to parents themselves, 1884 01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,460 and they have to stop their own addiction to this crap. Take it 1885 01:52:11,460 --> 01:52:14,250 from an old fart, you got to stop this addiction. That's the 1886 01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:17,880 only way we're going to move forward. And everything else. If 1887 01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:22,260 you find yourself yelling, you know trans people. What's your 1888 01:52:22,260 --> 01:52:25,920 pronouns, or if you find yourself yelling, Chris and John 1889 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:30,180 are crazy, then you are part of the problem. You got to step 1890 01:52:30,180 --> 01:52:33,090 away. This is this is the this is how they make money off of 1891 01:52:33,090 --> 01:52:37,230 you. And it's off of children's backs. Now it's pathetic. 1892 01:52:38,850 --> 01:52:43,590 John C Dvorak: This would be solved with one simple edict or 1893 01:52:43,590 --> 01:52:49,770 law or it's just completely obliterated, okay? Go back to 1894 01:52:49,770 --> 01:52:54,930 the days when it was illegal to advertise drugs on television. 1895 01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,010 Adam Curry: I completely agree. And we were talking about a 1896 01:52:59,010 --> 01:53:02,220 television is also a problem. When you're watching television 1897 01:53:02,250 --> 01:53:05,040 and America, New Zealand are the only countries in America 1898 01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:09,270 certainly, where you can advertise direct to consumer. We 1899 01:53:09,270 --> 01:53:12,870 talk about a tension arc. So when you're watching a show, 1900 01:53:13,110 --> 01:53:16,080 there's a tension arc and it moves up and it goes up and 1901 01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:17,910 you're like, Okay, this is great. It's getting exciting. 1902 01:53:18,090 --> 01:53:22,590 Boom, that's when they break for ads, and then write it and your 1903 01:53:22,590 --> 01:53:26,400 mind is wide open, you're ready up, you're in the story. And 1904 01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,940 it's telling you what you have, what you might have irritable 1905 01:53:29,940 --> 01:53:34,440 bowel, you're fat, you have diabetes, you're depressed, your 1906 01:53:34,440 --> 01:53:37,080 depression medication is not working and fluent, then you're 1907 01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:43,140 backing the story. And it is one of the most destructive things. 1908 01:53:43,470 --> 01:53:47,610 And you've turned it off, just turn it off. Now there was 1909 01:53:47,610 --> 01:53:51,420 something funny to all of this just to keep it light. Every 1910 01:53:51,420 --> 01:53:55,920 single station, when this took place, immediately ran right 1911 01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:59,010 away. And you could watch Fox and they give you your version. 1912 01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:02,790 And you can watch ABC and CBS and NBC and they give you their 1913 01:54:02,790 --> 01:54:08,580 version. But all of them made this. And I think it's a I would 1914 01:54:08,580 --> 01:54:14,370 say it's the White House press shop, as they call it. It's 1915 01:54:14,370 --> 01:54:17,760 their fault, because everybody was waiting for the President to 1916 01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:22,020 come out and say something. They had people on talking about guns 1917 01:54:22,170 --> 01:54:25,950 and how horrible it is and the mass shootings and everything 1918 01:54:25,950 --> 01:54:30,030 but drugs of course, and this is ABC This happened to every 1919 01:54:30,030 --> 01:54:33,390 single station as they cut live to the president, two things 1920 01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:38,190 Unknown: until we figure out a way to create systems within 1921 01:54:38,190 --> 01:54:41,310 local government that are more apt. We're going to take it to 1922 01:54:41,310 --> 01:54:43,860 the podium Now Brad, the president United States 1923 01:54:43,860 --> 01:54:44,310 speaking. 1924 01:54:50,370 --> 01:54:59,730 My name is Joe Biden. I'm Dr. Joe Biden. Ice cream chocolate 1925 01:54:59,730 --> 01:55:05,250 chip. If I came down here there was chocolate chip ice cream. By 1926 01:55:05,250 --> 01:55:05,610 the way, 1927 01:55:05,610 --> 01:55:08,970 I have a whole refrigerator full upstairs. I think I'm kidding. 1928 01:55:08,970 --> 01:55:09,120 I'm 1929 01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:11,400 not a fan. How are you, pal? 1930 01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:17,070 Adam Curry: Did I say Obama by Exxon. So what happened is he 1931 01:55:17,070 --> 01:55:20,820 was speaking for a women's conference wasn't notified, the 1932 01:55:20,820 --> 01:55:23,250 press should have been told we're going to tell you when to 1933 01:55:23,250 --> 01:55:26,700 cut. Because he does have a statement. They're all waiting 1934 01:55:26,700 --> 01:55:28,650 for the President to speak waiting for the President to 1935 01:55:28,650 --> 01:55:32,550 speak. And then he went on for about chocolate chip ice cream 1936 01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:36,000 and some kids in the audience, because he is not media savvy. 1937 01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:42,930 He's barely life savvy. And it was such a wrong moment is 1938 01:55:42,930 --> 01:55:46,020 exactly what we didn't need. Although maybe you do to show 1939 01:55:46,020 --> 01:55:48,900 that this guy cannot be president. This This 1940 01:55:48,900 --> 01:55:52,530 administration is wrong, everything's wrong about it. Did 1941 01:55:52,530 --> 01:55:55,380 you see that? Any of those cutaways very 1942 01:55:55,380 --> 01:55:59,400 John C Dvorak: funny there was a number of aspects to all this 1943 01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:03,780 that were that was interesting one was the insistence that this 1944 01:56:03,780 --> 01:56:08,610 is all about gun violence they would the CNN in particular, but 1945 01:56:08,610 --> 01:56:13,950 also the networks that refused to discuss the transit 1946 01:56:13,980 --> 01:56:18,600 transgender wrist aspect yes wouldn't we never mentioned that 1947 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:22,680 they would then they dead named her which a lot of people 1948 01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:32,400 complained about or then named him whose name was she? She was 1949 01:56:32,670 --> 01:56:38,280 She him had a Reddit account that somebody in the no agenda 1950 01:56:38,340 --> 01:56:42,390 chat room had listed and I went to it and read all the posts it 1951 01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:46,290 was quite interesting. This person was something of a 1952 01:56:46,290 --> 01:56:52,080 counselor to transgender youth and never hinted that she was 1953 01:56:53,310 --> 01:56:57,270 that this person was violent or to get him in her because of the 1954 01:56:57,270 --> 01:57:04,410 color Haley but her name he wanted to be pronoun to him for 1955 01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:09,420 our him he and a name Aiden which is what this account was 1956 01:57:09,420 --> 01:57:12,360 on Reddit it was very interesting the way they nobody 1957 01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:15,720 wanted to discuss this they ended up just calling the callin 1958 01:57:15,810 --> 01:57:19,380 person Haley and let it letting it go and not even getting into 1959 01:57:19,380 --> 01:57:23,130 the violent aspect of it because there was a violent undercurrent 1960 01:57:23,130 --> 01:57:28,650 going on that's visible with T shirts and and in fact the My 1961 01:57:28,650 --> 01:57:33,660 favorite story is the idiot and of all things. Public relations 1962 01:57:33,660 --> 01:57:39,390 person in Arizona. Yeah. Is a person who is a public relations 1963 01:57:39,390 --> 01:57:46,620 specialist. posting on Twitter a woman holding two pistols and 1964 01:57:46,620 --> 01:57:51,690 with the physic I have a clip of the of this oh you Hi. 1965 01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:53,910 Adam Curry: Wow you have that? I didn't even get that. 1966 01:57:54,030 --> 01:58:01,320 John C Dvorak: I have a lot of clips. That see gender foible is 1967 01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:05,640 dead naming shooter. Get to figure out which clip idiot 1968 01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:07,140 press secretary clip 1969 01:58:07,170 --> 01:58:10,200 Unknown: transgender identity is causing a controversy in 1970 01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:14,100 Arizona. Governor Katie Hobbs is press secretary is resigning 1971 01:58:14,100 --> 01:58:16,980 after apparently calling for violence against those who 1972 01:58:16,980 --> 01:58:20,970 oppose transgenderism. Yeah, Arizona governor's press 1973 01:58:20,970 --> 01:58:24,030 secretary Jocelyn berry posted this image on her Twitter 1974 01:58:24,030 --> 01:58:27,630 account on Monday just after the Nashville school shooting. The 1975 01:58:27,630 --> 01:58:31,770 caption reads us when we see transphobes the suspect in the 1976 01:58:31,770 --> 01:58:34,860 Nashville school shooting was born as a woman and identifying 1977 01:58:34,860 --> 01:58:38,520 as a man. Hobbes's office confirmed earlier today that 1978 01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:41,400 Barry resigned following pressure from her circle and 1979 01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:44,400 other lawmakers. The governor's office said in a statement, 1980 01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,580 quote, the governor does not condone violence in any form. 1981 01:58:47,610 --> 01:58:50,940 The post by the press secretary is not reflective of the values 1982 01:58:50,970 --> 01:58:52,110 of the administration. 1983 01:58:52,500 --> 01:58:54,510 Adam Curry: Yeah, she resigned. Obviously, 1984 01:58:54,570 --> 01:58:58,350 John C Dvorak: it's like, wait a minute, you're a what a press 1985 01:58:58,350 --> 01:59:01,650 say this is a person who's supposed to be media savvy. 1986 01:59:04,050 --> 01:59:06,390 That's what the I mean, it's just like beyond me that 1987 01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:09,270 Adam Curry: well, again, again, this is the New Black Lives 1988 01:59:09,270 --> 01:59:12,660 Matter. It's better than black lives matter. Because you can 1989 01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:16,560 you don't have to have a certain skin color to be trans or to be 1990 01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:22,860 called trans or to be called a trans phobe. And this is so 1991 01:59:23,220 --> 01:59:27,990 evil, so evil, and it's really a small percentage, but even these 1992 01:59:27,990 --> 01:59:33,150 poor children, again, it's this is a Washington Post poll that 1993 01:59:33,150 --> 01:59:35,790 finds out that most of these trans kids are really 1994 01:59:35,790 --> 01:59:39,090 transgender, but they either feel peer pressure, or they just 1995 01:59:39,090 --> 01:59:42,270 don't feel like they fit in again, back to the drugs. Back 1996 01:59:42,270 --> 01:59:46,170 to the pharmaceuticals. This is the crisis, but all we do is 1997 01:59:46,170 --> 01:59:49,800 spend time on yelling about trans trans folk, trans anti 1998 01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:54,150 trans woman, not a woman. You know, the media, the media, it's 1999 01:59:54,150 --> 01:59:58,500 their model, and they've gone from racist to transphobic in 2000 01:59:58,530 --> 02:00:01,920 and they're and it's this CES now it's really about now we're 2001 02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,800 really killing children. Congratulations media. 2002 02:00:06,569 --> 02:00:10,889 John C Dvorak: Well, they're not gonna stop. No. But now it's 2003 02:00:10,889 --> 02:00:14,369 helped out by some of these. I have a slew of these tick tock 2004 02:00:14,369 --> 02:00:19,859 people complaining about one thing or another regarding this, 2005 02:00:20,189 --> 02:00:23,549 okay, and I can play some of them. Let's like, for example, 2006 02:00:23,549 --> 02:00:28,229 the complaint about a very, this is a person who seems kind of 2007 02:00:28,229 --> 02:00:32,339 drugged up because it didn't seem seem too important to them 2008 02:00:32,339 --> 02:00:35,039 about the shooting itself. But what was really important was 2009 02:00:35,039 --> 02:00:39,959 they kept dead naming the shooter and this is 2010 02:00:40,020 --> 02:00:43,140 Unknown: eight inhale. That's the name of the Nashville 2011 02:00:43,140 --> 02:00:46,110 shooter. This video is about to be very uncomfortable. For a lot 2012 02:00:46,110 --> 02:00:48,300 of us. It's very uncomfortable for me to talk about. 2013 02:00:48,330 --> 02:00:50,460 Adam Curry: But when How old do you think this? This woman is? 2014 02:00:50,580 --> 02:00:51,270 Who's speaking? 2015 02:00:52,170 --> 02:00:55,530 John C Dvorak: She appears to be about 24. Okay, all right. 2016 02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:58,590 Unknown: To talk about it. Aiden did a very horrendous thing, 2017 02:00:58,710 --> 02:01:02,400 period point blank, we need to pure reform in our country, but 2018 02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:06,360 the way that the media and the police are misgendering. And 2019 02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:09,930 dead naming Aiden is quite concerning. It's also concerning 2020 02:01:09,930 --> 02:01:14,610 that I had to go to the telegraph from UK to actually 2021 02:01:14,610 --> 02:01:21,360 get Aiden's chosen name. It's upsetting that constantly is she 2022 02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:25,890 her pronouns? That is incredibly frustrating. Because even though 2023 02:01:25,890 --> 02:01:30,150 they did this horrible thing does not mean that we get to do 2024 02:01:30,150 --> 02:01:32,820 those things. That's a boundary and we can hold people 2025 02:01:32,820 --> 02:01:36,900 accountable without being transphobic even for some of the 2026 02:01:36,900 --> 02:01:40,080 most horrendous things. So while you're watching this, also watch 2027 02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:42,420 for transphobia because it's very clearly coming out. 2028 02:01:42,810 --> 02:01:44,790 Adam Curry: Yeah, this just people make it about themselves. 2029 02:01:45,210 --> 02:01:48,600 Which is really, it's just that's, that is just as evil I'm 2030 02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:51,000 gonna make it about myself, make it about my video, make sure you 2031 02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,700 watch my video, make sure you catch me talking about it, 2032 02:01:53,700 --> 02:01:57,150 because I'm really important. This is very bad. 2033 02:01:57,810 --> 02:02:00,480 John C Dvorak: It's not getting any better. Here's this one this 2034 02:02:00,510 --> 02:02:05,760 woman is. This is just a really weird when this is gender 2035 02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:07,050 foibles crazy 2036 02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:10,980 Unknown: thing that's complicated about my whole like, 2037 02:02:10,980 --> 02:02:13,260 gender situation. And I feel like there are other non binary 2038 02:02:13,260 --> 02:02:15,960 people who deal with this, too, is the fact that the way I 2039 02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:18,120 understand my gender and the way that I want other people to 2040 02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:20,940 understand my gender are two wildly different things. Because 2041 02:02:20,970 --> 02:02:24,420 I and certain people that I've talked to about this, understand 2042 02:02:24,420 --> 02:02:27,210 the nuances and complicated relationships that I have with 2043 02:02:27,210 --> 02:02:32,010 womanhood. So those are included, when we think of me as 2044 02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:35,340 a woman or say she her like those weird relationships are 2045 02:02:35,340 --> 02:02:37,680 still understood. But almost everyone else, they don't have 2046 02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:40,050 that. So they don't get to call me those things to almost 2047 02:02:40,050 --> 02:02:43,440 everyone else in real life. I am not a woman and I use them. But 2048 02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:46,920 then because I will call myself a woman or you as she her 2049 02:02:47,070 --> 02:02:52,200 understanding the nuances of it all. I feel guilty when I feel 2050 02:02:52,230 --> 02:02:57,030 bad about getting misgendered by people who should be using de 2051 02:02:57,030 --> 02:02:59,850 them and not thinking of me as a woman. I mean, they're not 2052 02:02:59,880 --> 02:03:02,790 wrong, except they don't know they're not wrong. They've been 2053 02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:05,730 told I'm non binary and I use they them so why are they still 2054 02:03:05,730 --> 02:03:06,780 thinking of me as a woman? 2055 02:03:08,190 --> 02:03:11,490 Adam Curry: This is the outrage. This is the oh, this this this 2056 02:03:11,490 --> 02:03:15,690 person is in outrage mode. programmed to do that program to 2057 02:03:15,690 --> 02:03:18,960 do that no matter what your problem is. There's no reason to 2058 02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:22,440 be yelling like that. And be so angry about it. 2059 02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:27,750 John C Dvorak: Sure, something, something weirdly silly about 2060 02:03:27,750 --> 02:03:31,920 it. But here, but here's the one that I always thought was the 2061 02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:35,670 kind of a kicker because this was this reflects some of the T 2062 02:03:35,670 --> 02:03:38,130 shirts you're seeing it somebody sent me I didn't post this in 2063 02:03:38,130 --> 02:03:42,420 the newsletter but a bumper sticker showing the trans flag 2064 02:03:42,420 --> 02:03:47,010 with a with an AR 15 on top of it. And this is the trans woman 2065 02:03:47,010 --> 02:03:50,760 pushing via or I think pushing violence. 2066 02:03:51,090 --> 02:03:53,220 Unknown: That's people in Tennessee, it's hard to fucking 2067 02:03:53,220 --> 02:03:57,840 fight trans allies in Tennessee, it's time to fucking fight trans 2068 02:03:57,840 --> 02:03:59,850 women if they lock you up for identify. 2069 02:04:01,830 --> 02:04:03,720 John C Dvorak: For what I want to just warn people this is 2070 02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:07,020 extremely profane. So you can you know if you don't want your 2071 02:04:07,020 --> 02:04:09,990 kids to hear it, the second thing is this is the voice of 2072 02:04:09,990 --> 02:04:14,220 someone who's coked up and it's a it's got that 2073 02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:18,690 Adam Curry: if I can say John is an expert at identifying people 2074 02:04:18,690 --> 02:04:19,470 who are coked up 2075 02:04:20,130 --> 02:04:22,680 John C Dvorak: well you have I think isn't you have friends 2076 02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:27,960 that are good at Photoshop know friends that are good at 2077 02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:28,920 identifying it. 2078 02:04:28,950 --> 02:04:32,910 Adam Curry: Yes, yes. Yeah, you're you're expert at it. 2079 02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:36,780 John C Dvorak: I think so. And it's a great skill to have. 2080 02:04:37,380 --> 02:04:42,150 Well, this voice with this adenoidal quality is definitely 2081 02:04:42,660 --> 02:04:44,640 qualifies for being coked up 2082 02:04:45,210 --> 02:04:48,570 Unknown: fight resist you're gonna die anyways we're going to 2083 02:04:48,570 --> 02:04:52,860 die anyways, it's time to fucking resist fight them hurt 2084 02:04:52,860 --> 02:04:58,980 them. If they put their hands on you beat them. We are at an 2085 02:04:58,980 --> 02:05:04,290 attack it It's time to fight back. Do you hear me? Trans 2086 02:05:04,290 --> 02:05:09,000 people into the sea transmitted trans women non binary fights, 2087 02:05:09,270 --> 02:05:12,540 if they try to arrest you, or have you arrested or a felony 2088 02:05:12,540 --> 02:05:18,540 for existing, beat them team up, game together, get people who 2089 02:05:18,540 --> 02:05:22,740 agree with you to come and fight, carry a weapon at all 2090 02:05:22,740 --> 02:05:26,250 times. And yes, you have to attack the police officer. 2091 02:05:28,620 --> 02:05:33,090 Allegedly, but it's time it's time. If they're going to try to 2092 02:05:33,090 --> 02:05:37,050 jail and police you for existing, you fight them, you 2093 02:05:37,050 --> 02:05:42,030 fight them. And if they lock you in prison, fuck up the guards 2094 02:05:42,660 --> 02:05:47,460 bust out of prison. Jump in with other trans people. It's time we 2095 02:05:47,460 --> 02:05:51,420 organize a prison bustin Tennessee guys, so we organize a 2096 02:05:51,420 --> 02:05:55,470 prison bus. It's time we start fighting, it's time if they put 2097 02:05:55,470 --> 02:06:00,810 their hands on you fight them, trans people fight them, we will 2098 02:06:00,810 --> 02:06:06,390 not let them create a genocide of trans people. I am so tired. 2099 02:06:06,540 --> 02:06:09,450 I wasn't alive the other day with two trans people who denied 2100 02:06:09,450 --> 02:06:13,800 this out of my way. I just own any trans person who disagrees 2101 02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:17,100 with this notion. You are not allowed at the fucking table. 2102 02:06:17,790 --> 02:06:20,790 It's time to fucking fight transgender sites around the 2103 02:06:20,790 --> 02:06:25,140 corner stop debating sis people in your existence. I do not 2104 02:06:25,140 --> 02:06:30,420 debate my existence is not a conversation. We fucking fight 2105 02:06:30,420 --> 02:06:35,280 now a we die. And we're not gonna die debating sis people. 2106 02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:38,400 They're gonna have the last word they're joining your life to 2107 02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:41,280 call you a man they're joining your life to call you a woman. 2108 02:06:41,550 --> 02:06:45,030 They're joining your life to miss gender you to get the right 2109 02:06:45,030 --> 02:06:49,770 pronouns to tell you that you're not existing. When your ex, 2110 02:06:50,220 --> 02:06:52,860 Adam Curry: yeah, this is going to end in riots. This just as 2111 02:06:52,890 --> 02:06:56,220 this is the Black Lives Matter model and they've just 2112 02:06:56,220 --> 02:07:00,030 transplanted it. And they're abusing children. Mainly. 2113 02:07:00,690 --> 02:07:04,830 Because think of the children, which is always a good one. And 2114 02:07:04,860 --> 02:07:10,500 and man, I don't know. I mean, you and I know many parents who 2115 02:07:10,500 --> 02:07:11,730 are all in on this too. 2116 02:07:12,360 --> 02:07:14,760 John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's, it's interesting. And there's 2117 02:07:14,820 --> 02:07:17,940 the thing that's going on here, similar to Black Lives Matter is 2118 02:07:17,940 --> 02:07:22,680 Marxist dialectic and what they've done and I've been kind 2119 02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:25,890 of working on some research, I'm trying to figure out when some 2120 02:07:25,890 --> 02:07:29,340 of these terms came along, most of them around 1990. This is all 2121 02:07:29,340 --> 02:07:32,400 new stuff. By the way we're watching and the development of 2122 02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:36,720 the word sis gender, yeah, is the thing that fascinates me 2123 02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:42,840 because now there's two. So we now have a split. Instead of two 2124 02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:46,380 sexes, male and female, we have two genders, to gender 2125 02:07:46,380 --> 02:07:50,670 categories. The gender category is trans and sis and those are 2126 02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:54,570 opposite. And they oppose each other and one in the Marxist 2127 02:07:54,570 --> 02:07:58,860 way. One is the oppressor. That's the SIS and then there's 2128 02:07:58,860 --> 02:08:01,710 the oppressed, which is the trans. And the SIS, 2129 02:08:01,740 --> 02:08:06,870 interestingly enough includes gay men. Oh yeah, gay women. 2130 02:08:06,990 --> 02:08:11,670 They're all cisgendered heterosexual males and that's 2131 02:08:11,700 --> 02:08:15,660 all the various genders within the SIS community. And then the 2132 02:08:15,660 --> 02:08:18,300 trans have all the intersectional 's and all of 2133 02:08:18,300 --> 02:08:24,330 this, all these these rather new inventions and is to create this 2134 02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:28,560 this Hague alien Marxist dialectic. So you have this you 2135 02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:31,440 know, this opposition one group to the other and the whole 2136 02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:35,370 invention of cisgender which should have been rejected from 2137 02:08:35,370 --> 02:08:38,910 the get go is part of this that's where they created it. So 2138 02:08:38,910 --> 02:08:41,910 you can create this this model that you're describing is 2139 02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:45,540 similar to Antifa, which are Black Lives Matter, which is 2140 02:08:45,540 --> 02:08:50,550 exactly the case. But you end up with some crazy stuff and I have 2141 02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:55,470 two more clips. And one of them is this one, which again is 2142 02:08:55,470 --> 02:08:58,560 profane, and people should be careful this one I just was 2143 02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:04,260 actually kind of funny. This is an obvious dude, who wants to be 2144 02:09:04,260 --> 02:09:06,630 recognized as a woman even though he's shows no 2145 02:09:06,630 --> 02:09:11,970 characteristics of one but gets bent out of shape in a store for 2146 02:09:11,970 --> 02:09:16,890 being called sir. And he just goes nuts. And this is the 2147 02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:19,590 profane Miss agender rant 2148 02:09:20,370 --> 02:09:24,480 Unknown: excuse me it's Ma'am. Ma'am. You need to settle down 2149 02:09:24,480 --> 02:09:28,770 Mind your business okay. Yes, ma'am. Once again, man I said 2150 02:09:28,770 --> 02:09:33,240 both of you know what you said sir. Man, I actually said both 2151 02:09:33,240 --> 02:09:37,260 of you guys. Right beforehand you fucking said sir. This 2152 02:09:37,260 --> 02:09:40,500 motherfucker take it outside. You want to call me sir again? I 2153 02:09:40,500 --> 02:09:46,800 will show you fucking sir. I have fallen motherfucker. I need 2154 02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:49,710 to corporate number because I'm going to talk call them and talk 2155 02:09:49,710 --> 02:09:53,730 about House misgendered several times in the store. I need your 2156 02:09:53,730 --> 02:09:57,240 corporate number now. Well, I'm going to ask you for the fifth 2157 02:09:57,240 --> 02:10:00,660 time to stop calling me a man because quite clearly Not 2158 02:10:04,230 --> 02:10:09,030 Adam Curry: so in this Marxist dialectic, what are the earlier 2159 02:10:09,450 --> 02:10:19,350 examples in Marxism, of, of these types of division? Well, 2160 02:10:19,350 --> 02:10:23,580 John C Dvorak: that was what the bourgeoisie was created for this 2161 02:10:23,580 --> 02:10:29,550 purpose, as a term to really incorporate the middle class and 2162 02:10:29,550 --> 02:10:34,320 the elites as the oppressors of the poor and the working class, 2163 02:10:34,350 --> 02:10:37,350 because the whole Marxist thing began as a kind of a working 2164 02:10:37,350 --> 02:10:39,750 class, the working class, the peasants were going to take over 2165 02:10:39,750 --> 02:10:45,030 the world, the workers control the means of production. Why are 2166 02:10:45,030 --> 02:10:48,450 they you know, being oppressed, and it's just an oppression 2167 02:10:49,050 --> 02:10:53,430 model that they can use to get you to be oppressed, you're in 2168 02:10:53,430 --> 02:10:57,030 the oppressed class, which in this case, would be trans. And 2169 02:10:57,030 --> 02:11:00,030 you have to you have to fight it, you have to, you have to 2170 02:11:00,030 --> 02:11:01,770 revolt, you have to have a revolution. 2171 02:11:01,830 --> 02:11:03,690 Adam Curry: And we're at that stage now. I mean, now we're 2172 02:11:03,690 --> 02:11:07,320 actually at that stage, which I think has very little, maybe we 2173 02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:11,850 don't know what the manifesto says, again, you add drugs to 2174 02:11:11,850 --> 02:11:12,600 this problem. 2175 02:11:12,690 --> 02:11:14,730 John C Dvorak: We we kind of know it is we kind 2176 02:11:14,730 --> 02:11:16,140 Adam Curry: of know what it's about. You add, you add 2177 02:11:16,170 --> 02:11:20,760 pharmaceutical, this is the new thing. I don't think that the 2178 02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:24,210 bourgeoisie and the peasants that there was mind altering 2179 02:11:24,210 --> 02:11:27,960 drugs involved in this, of which we don't really know how they 2180 02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:28,620 work. 2181 02:11:29,189 --> 02:11:31,859 John C Dvorak: Well, that reminds me when I was a student, 2182 02:11:32,039 --> 02:11:36,389 myself in the in grammar school, elementary school, whatever you 2183 02:11:36,389 --> 02:11:41,219 want to call it. I don't know nobody committed suicide. That 2184 02:11:41,219 --> 02:11:44,099 alone felt like it. No. I don't know when they started 2185 02:11:44,099 --> 02:11:47,279 committing suicide, but it wasn't during those years. I 2186 02:11:47,279 --> 02:11:51,209 have one last clip, which is the this is a woman on PBS 2187 02:11:51,209 --> 02:11:55,499 discussing some of the issues going on, about these laws, 2188 02:11:55,499 --> 02:11:59,369 which she says really what's triggering all this. And that 2189 02:11:59,369 --> 02:12:01,439 and in Tennessee, that you can make that argument because the 2190 02:12:01,439 --> 02:12:05,699 law is just some anti, it wasn't anti, it's not anti trans is 2191 02:12:05,699 --> 02:12:10,409 anti teaching kids stuff. Yeah, it's more or less. 2192 02:12:10,410 --> 02:12:13,410 Adam Curry: It's inappropriate, inappropriate behavior in front 2193 02:12:13,410 --> 02:12:14,220 of children. 2194 02:12:14,550 --> 02:12:16,320 John C Dvorak: Yes, but they call it they like to call it 2195 02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:19,350 antitrack. And this is interesting, because this comes 2196 02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:23,700 from the woman doing the speaking on PBS. Not to the 2197 02:12:23,700 --> 02:12:27,240 host, but the woman that they brought on is from an operation 2198 02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:36,300 called NBC out. Oh, no, I never heard of NBC out. No. And NBC 2199 02:12:36,300 --> 02:12:45,300 out is a LGBTQ plus plus. news source from NBC desk been around 2200 02:12:45,300 --> 02:12:49,650 as showed up first appeared in 2016, as soon as Trump was 2201 02:12:49,650 --> 02:12:54,960 elected, ah, and it is pretty much to anti Trump anti 2202 02:12:54,960 --> 02:12:57,900 Republican news stories. But let's listen to this. 2203 02:12:57,930 --> 02:13:01,620 Adam Curry: I just wanted to add, whenever you hear Christian 2204 02:13:01,800 --> 02:13:08,160 on the news, that's code for for Republican Trump. That's really 2205 02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:11,310 the that's really the idea here. It's always been against 2206 02:13:11,310 --> 02:13:13,440 Christians is just Republicans. 2207 02:13:13,500 --> 02:13:15,600 John C Dvorak: Trump, heaven forbid a Democrat, be a 2208 02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:16,320 churchgoer 2209 02:13:16,350 --> 02:13:19,140 Unknown: legislation targeting LGBTQ people has just been 2210 02:13:19,140 --> 02:13:22,980 growing exponentially over the last three years. So you have 2211 02:13:23,130 --> 02:13:26,700 more than 400 bills targeting LGBTQ people that have been 2212 02:13:26,700 --> 02:13:27,480 filed so far. 2213 02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:30,420 John C Dvorak: This is the second targeting. Yeah, 2214 02:13:30,420 --> 02:13:36,060 targeting end to end, the word use of at least bothers me of 2215 02:13:36,060 --> 02:13:41,250 exponentially. And what she'll prove herself is by showing some 2216 02:13:41,250 --> 02:13:44,460 stats is not true that logarithmically just to make it 2217 02:13:44,460 --> 02:13:48,180 even exponentially. It's been growing. Yeah, but not 2218 02:13:48,210 --> 02:13:49,680 exponentially. 2219 02:13:49,710 --> 02:13:52,500 Unknown: Legislation targeting LGBTQ people has just been 2220 02:13:52,500 --> 02:13:56,340 growing exponentially over the last three years. So you have 2221 02:13:56,520 --> 02:14:00,060 more than 400 bills targeting LGBTQ people that have been 2222 02:14:00,060 --> 02:14:04,110 filed so far this year in state legislatures. And as those have 2223 02:14:04,110 --> 02:14:06,750 been filed, they've been growing increasingly more extreme. And 2224 02:14:06,750 --> 02:14:09,600 the best example we have of that is gender affirming care bans. 2225 02:14:09,600 --> 02:14:11,730 So when those were first filed a few years ago, 2226 02:14:11,730 --> 02:14:15,840 Adam Curry: notice the term gender affirming care, gender 2227 02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:19,950 affirming care, this is this not also part of the Marxist 2228 02:14:19,950 --> 02:14:21,870 playbook, and I think it's okay to, 2229 02:14:22,080 --> 02:14:24,120 John C Dvorak: to read to rewrite the language. Yeah. 2230 02:14:25,290 --> 02:14:28,410 Adam Curry: As a capitalist country as Republic, that's 2231 02:14:28,410 --> 02:14:31,470 where we you and I are, that's how you and I were old. So you 2232 02:14:31,470 --> 02:14:36,600 and I were brought up. This is bullshit. This is this is new 2233 02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:38,640 stuff. This is not, it's made up 2234 02:14:38,640 --> 02:14:40,200 Unknown: as those had been filed, they've been growing 2235 02:14:40,200 --> 02:14:43,140 increasingly more extreme. And the best example we have of that 2236 02:14:43,140 --> 02:14:46,110 is gender affirming care bands. So when those were first filed a 2237 02:14:46,110 --> 02:14:49,200 few years ago, they targeted minors, which advocates said was 2238 02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:52,920 still already very extreme. More recently, this year, we saw the 2239 02:14:52,920 --> 02:14:56,130 first ever bill that would have banned gender affirming care for 2240 02:14:56,130 --> 02:14:59,970 people up to 26 years old. So as they're growing more extreme 2241 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,810 Even conservatives are also feeling like they can add on 2242 02:15:03,810 --> 02:15:07,380 these bills that would have previously sparked more backlash 2243 02:15:07,380 --> 02:15:08,550 like bathroom bills. 2244 02:15:08,700 --> 02:15:11,640 And as you just noted, bathroom bills are not happening in a 2245 02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:16,230 vacuum. There was a new PBS newshour NPR Marist poll that 2246 02:15:16,230 --> 02:15:20,730 found 43% of Americans now support laws criminalizing 2247 02:15:20,730 --> 02:15:25,950 gender affirming care for minors. 54% oppose such laws, 2248 02:15:25,950 --> 02:15:27,060 that's a 15. 2249 02:15:27,630 --> 02:15:30,810 Adam Curry: It's it's a bit of a stretch to go from bathroom bill 2250 02:15:30,810 --> 02:15:35,940 to gender, to call that a gender affirming care bill. A bit of a 2251 02:15:35,940 --> 02:15:36,150 certain 2252 02:15:36,150 --> 02:15:38,580 John C Dvorak: age, they bunch all this stuff together. It's 2253 02:15:38,580 --> 02:15:40,050 quite interesting to listen to, by the 2254 02:15:40,050 --> 02:15:44,010 Adam Curry: way, if you talk to moe, you know, Obama's second 2255 02:15:44,010 --> 02:15:49,230 term, which of course, black America knew that Obama was not 2256 02:15:49,500 --> 02:15:51,570 African American, a DOS 2257 02:15:51,690 --> 02:15:53,760 John C Dvorak: Michel, and he wasn't doing much for the black 2258 02:15:53,760 --> 02:15:54,810 community either. Well, he 2259 02:15:54,810 --> 02:15:57,150 Adam Curry: did nothing in his first term, but you know, well, 2260 02:15:57,150 --> 02:16:00,540 first of all, Michelle, Michelle is she's a doll. So that's cool. 2261 02:16:00,780 --> 02:16:04,920 But then the second term, he went right for the, for the 2262 02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:09,480 gender bathrooms. And that turned everybody off was like, 2263 02:16:09,510 --> 02:16:12,750 okay, all right. So we're not getting anything. And that was 2264 02:16:12,780 --> 02:16:13,770 Obama started that 2265 02:16:13,770 --> 02:16:16,590 Unknown: sparked more backlash, like bathroom bills. 2266 02:16:16,740 --> 02:16:19,680 And as you just noted, bathroom bills are not happening in a 2267 02:16:19,680 --> 02:16:24,270 vacuum. There was a new PBS newshour NPR Marist poll that 2268 02:16:24,270 --> 02:16:28,770 found 43% of Americans now support laws criminalizing 2269 02:16:28,770 --> 02:16:33,990 gender affirming care for minors. 54% oppose such laws. 2270 02:16:33,990 --> 02:16:38,880 That's a 15 percentage point increase since April of 2021. So 2271 02:16:38,880 --> 02:16:42,900 when you look at all of these anti LGBTQ bills that have been 2272 02:16:42,900 --> 02:16:46,560 proposed, the gender affirming care bands, bans on education 2273 02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:50,280 about gender identity, do you see a difference in the outreach 2274 02:16:50,280 --> 02:16:51,090 to these bills? 2275 02:16:51,479 --> 02:16:54,179 Yeah, absolutely. We've seen a huge difference in outreach, for 2276 02:16:54,179 --> 02:16:57,119 example, to what advocates have dubbed for is Don't say gay and 2277 02:16:57,119 --> 02:17:01,199 trans Ville, which targets education there, and between 2278 02:17:01,439 --> 02:17:04,469 outrage directed at these gender affirming care bands. And I 2279 02:17:04,469 --> 02:17:07,979 think that's for a few reasons. First, is just because most 2280 02:17:07,979 --> 02:17:11,339 people know lesbian, gay, bisexual people, but they're 2281 02:17:11,339 --> 02:17:14,369 much less likely to know trans people. And they're even less 2282 02:17:14,369 --> 02:17:16,829 likely to know trans youth. So they don't know what their lives 2283 02:17:16,829 --> 02:17:19,169 look like. They don't know what their health care looks like. 2284 02:17:19,319 --> 02:17:22,049 And as a result, they're more susceptible to misinformation 2285 02:17:22,049 --> 02:17:24,719 about it. A lot of these bills describe health care for trans 2286 02:17:24,719 --> 02:17:28,769 youth as mutilation. They say it permanently sterilizes them that 2287 02:17:29,069 --> 02:17:31,799 trans children are receiving surgeries when that isn't the 2288 02:17:31,799 --> 02:17:32,429 case. 2289 02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:38,610 John C Dvorak: That's a lie. That's a total lie. Okay, so 2290 02:17:38,610 --> 02:17:39,480 where does it just keep, 2291 02:17:39,839 --> 02:17:43,619 Adam Curry: right? But this, this all comes from media, 2292 02:17:44,249 --> 02:17:48,509 driven, in many cases by politicians, politicians, who 2293 02:17:48,959 --> 02:17:52,889 will do anything to get the votes once you get in. And this, 2294 02:17:52,889 --> 02:17:56,369 by the way, is not this is not just America, I see this in the 2295 02:17:56,369 --> 02:18:00,449 Netherlands, a socialist country by design. And they now have, 2296 02:18:00,509 --> 02:18:05,159 you know, like, Gender Education, primetime television 2297 02:18:05,159 --> 02:18:09,509 with naked people. I mean, it's really, it's really quite 2298 02:18:09,539 --> 02:18:14,129 amazing how far this is going. And I think a lot of people are 2299 02:18:14,129 --> 02:18:17,159 like, hey, you know, maybe I'm old fashioned. You're being told 2300 02:18:17,159 --> 02:18:20,459 you're old fashioned. But you know, the result is clearly not 2301 02:18:20,459 --> 02:18:26,249 good. This is also coming from all the institutions and I've 2302 02:18:26,249 --> 02:18:31,949 got to hand it to Matt Gaetz. He really, really did a number on 2303 02:18:32,489 --> 02:18:36,119 what's, what's our Joint Chief of Staff, Austin, what's his 2304 02:18:36,119 --> 02:18:40,049 name? Lloyd Austin. Lloyd. Yeah, Lloyd awesome. 2305 02:18:40,440 --> 02:18:44,310 John C Dvorak: The guy with a mask and a shield and a hazmat 2306 02:18:44,310 --> 02:18:44,790 suit. 2307 02:18:44,969 --> 02:18:49,889 Adam Curry: So listen to what Matt Gaetz did. And he was 2308 02:18:49,889 --> 02:18:53,819 talking to Austin and to Millie, and he starts off with Austin. 2309 02:18:53,880 --> 02:18:57,960 Unknown: I guess my question is, how much taxpayer money should 2310 02:18:57,960 --> 02:19:01,680 go to fund drag queen story hours on military bases? 2311 02:19:04,350 --> 02:19:07,530 drag drag queen story hours is not something that the 2312 02:19:07,530 --> 02:19:09,180 Department funds. Well, wait 2313 02:19:09,180 --> 02:19:11,970 a second. That's actually not what the record seems to 2314 02:19:11,970 --> 02:19:14,670 suggest. You were going to fund one at Ramstein Air Force Base. 2315 02:19:14,670 --> 02:19:18,390 That one got canceled, but that's DoD insignia. That's a 2316 02:19:18,390 --> 02:19:23,400 drag queen story hour for children. Then also at Mount 2317 02:19:23,430 --> 02:19:27,060 strim Air Force Base outside of Great Falls Montana, you had a 2318 02:19:27,150 --> 02:19:31,290 drag queen story hour for kids at the Joint Base Langley Eustis 2319 02:19:31,320 --> 02:19:35,400 you put on a drag queen story hour on a Saturday for the first 2320 02:19:35,400 --> 02:19:38,550 ever kid friendly diversity equity inclusion summer festival 2321 02:19:38,700 --> 02:19:42,420 and at Nellis Air Force Base. You had the drag you Nellis on 2322 02:19:42,420 --> 02:19:45,330 June 17, who funded these things. Mr. Secretary, 2323 02:19:45,809 --> 02:19:50,879 listen, drag shows are not something that the Department of 2324 02:19:50,879 --> 02:19:52,649 Defense supports or funds. 2325 02:19:52,950 --> 02:19:56,070 Why are they happening on military bases? I just I just 2326 02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:58,470 showed you the evidence. Why are they happening? 2327 02:20:00,539 --> 02:20:04,319 I will say again, this is not something that we support or 2328 02:20:04,319 --> 02:20:04,709 fun. 2329 02:20:05,640 --> 02:20:09,210 So you think hosting a drag queen story hour on a military 2330 02:20:09,210 --> 02:20:12,630 base isn't supporting the drag queen story hour. 2331 02:20:14,309 --> 02:20:16,679 I stand by what I just said. You may stand 2332 02:20:16,680 --> 02:20:19,680 by it, but it's belied by the evidence over and over again. I 2333 02:20:19,680 --> 02:20:26,550 mean, are you are you aware of the piece? Biden's military air 2334 02:20:26,550 --> 02:20:29,790 force base in Montana holds drag show drag queen story hour for 2335 02:20:29,790 --> 02:20:31,530 kids in the western journal. Are you aware of that? 2336 02:20:32,670 --> 02:20:34,590 Again, I will say when 2337 02:20:34,980 --> 02:20:36,570 you're saying what you're saying, but I guess it just 2338 02:20:36,570 --> 02:20:37,620 doesn't comport with the facts. 2339 02:20:38,490 --> 02:20:43,170 Adam Curry: So then to prove that Black Lives Matter is kind 2340 02:20:43,170 --> 02:20:46,200 of on the way out, or to prove the point. I don't think that's 2341 02:20:46,200 --> 02:20:50,040 why Matt Gates was doing it. He now switches to General Milley. 2342 02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:54,450 You'll recall General Milley made this big deal about I want 2343 02:20:54,450 --> 02:20:57,630 to understand white privilege. I want to know what it's about. 2344 02:20:57,630 --> 02:21:01,980 I'm deeply concerned about a clip of it. Well, here he is. 2345 02:21:01,980 --> 02:21:02,850 Now General Milley. 2346 02:21:02,850 --> 02:21:05,040 Unknown: This would be my last time to question you. You 2347 02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:08,520 mentioned two years ago that you wanted to better understand 2348 02:21:08,550 --> 02:21:10,350 white rage. And so my question is this. 2349 02:21:10,470 --> 02:21:13,350 Did you read this book? Oh, no, no, no. Well, 2350 02:21:13,380 --> 02:21:16,920 it is what is white privilege is the book. And it's actually 2351 02:21:16,920 --> 02:21:21,960 written by a DOD official, a senior official in diversity, 2352 02:21:21,960 --> 02:21:26,460 equity and inclusion. And there are now hundreds of these books 2353 02:21:26,550 --> 02:21:30,090 in dozens of schools. And I wonder if you guys connect this 2354 02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:31,680 to your problems with recruiting, 2355 02:21:31,830 --> 02:21:35,130 I've never read it, never seen it. Frankly, I don't even think 2356 02:21:35,130 --> 02:21:36,810 about that stuff, I think. Next, 2357 02:21:37,050 --> 02:21:39,300 go and put up the next slide. So the force couldn't put up the 2358 02:21:39,300 --> 02:21:42,930 next slide, please. Okay, well, in the next slide, this is a 2359 02:21:42,930 --> 02:21:47,460 tweet by one of your employees in charge of diversity, equity 2360 02:21:47,460 --> 02:21:51,870 and inclusion. And it's It's patently racist. They say that 2361 02:21:52,470 --> 02:21:55,920 she had to give care in the business that she talks about 2362 02:21:55,920 --> 02:21:59,700 cod acity, presumably, of Caucasian people. So why does 2363 02:21:59,700 --> 02:22:01,140 the why is that 2364 02:22:01,740 --> 02:22:04,200 argument for me? That's terrible. It's wrong. She 2365 02:22:04,200 --> 02:22:08,040 shouldn't be doing that parents should be fired. I don't. That's 2366 02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:12,000 a DOD employee. Not US military uniform, like 2367 02:22:13,170 --> 02:22:18,900 Austin. Again, as you heard at your subcommittee here, this 2368 02:22:18,930 --> 02:22:24,030 this incident was investigated. And, and employed gentleman's 2369 02:22:24,030 --> 02:22:24,930 time has expired. 2370 02:22:25,289 --> 02:22:28,529 Can I just can I get copies of those? Because I'd like to take 2371 02:22:28,529 --> 02:22:31,439 a look at those myself actually take a look and find out what 2372 02:22:31,439 --> 02:22:33,539 actually is going on there. Because that's the first I'm 2373 02:22:33,539 --> 02:22:36,269 hearing about that kind of stuff. I don't read those news 2374 02:22:36,329 --> 02:22:37,709 stories. I don't know what you're talking about. I'd like 2375 02:22:37,709 --> 02:22:39,359 to take a look at those because I don't agree with those. Well, 2376 02:22:39,359 --> 02:22:41,729 they're now I think those records shouldn't be happening. 2377 02:22:41,850 --> 02:22:43,590 Thank you. Thank you for that admission. 2378 02:22:44,190 --> 02:22:46,770 Adam Curry: There you go. backpedaling all the way out on 2379 02:22:46,770 --> 02:22:52,620 the shore. So Black Lives Matter out trans kids and gender 2380 02:22:52,620 --> 02:22:57,180 affirming care in and the whole country is is and the world 2381 02:22:57,180 --> 02:23:00,510 really is in irons over this because oh, you know, poor 2382 02:23:00,510 --> 02:23:03,600 children's gender affirming care. There's all these words 2383 02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:07,950 that we're using. And it's and I think the statistics show that 2384 02:23:07,950 --> 02:23:13,590 it doesn't always turn out really well. And then just to 2385 02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:18,300 make sure we get all the all the Christians and the Republicans 2386 02:23:18,300 --> 02:23:23,340 and the Patriots all worked up to Fox News. Here's Miss 2387 02:23:23,340 --> 02:23:27,360 McInerney, who doesn't remember her paying an awful lot of 2388 02:23:27,360 --> 02:23:30,150 attention to a Wall Street Journal and University of 2389 02:23:30,150 --> 02:23:34,860 Chicago poll. Boy because those guys were right about Trump in 2390 02:23:34,860 --> 02:23:37,740 2016, they were right on the money. So these polls are really 2391 02:23:37,860 --> 02:23:39,750 you know, these polls are good listen to this. 2392 02:23:39,930 --> 02:23:42,870 Unknown: When we began with a new and disheartening poll and 2393 02:23:42,870 --> 02:23:44,850 the direction of where our country is headed, 2394 02:23:45,360 --> 02:23:48,840 Adam Curry: right there, psi up Incoming, incoming psi up, 2395 02:23:49,020 --> 02:23:52,140 Unknown: and what they reveal about the core values that have 2396 02:23:52,170 --> 02:23:56,010 defined us as a country for generations, new Wall Street 2397 02:23:56,010 --> 02:24:00,450 Journal poll showing patriotism, religious faith, having children 2398 02:24:00,450 --> 02:24:04,410 and hard work have declined in importance to Americans. Check 2399 02:24:04,410 --> 02:24:09,210 this out. Patriotism plummeted over the last 25 years, back in 2400 02:24:09,210 --> 02:24:13,890 1998 70% of those surveyed ranked it as being very 2401 02:24:13,890 --> 02:24:19,890 important to them. Now, just 38% feel that way. More than 60% 2402 02:24:19,890 --> 02:24:24,510 said religion was very important to them in 1998. Today, well, 2403 02:24:24,510 --> 02:24:29,580 it's less than 40%. And family values, like having children 2404 02:24:29,610 --> 02:24:35,160 also have dropped sharply. And it 98 59% of Americans believed 2405 02:24:35,160 --> 02:24:40,320 having children was very important. Now, just 30% do. The 2406 02:24:40,320 --> 02:24:42,900 polls are not entirely surprising. We have seen the 2407 02:24:42,900 --> 02:24:46,200 deterioration of America's core values right before our very 2408 02:24:46,200 --> 02:24:49,170 eyes. You don't have to look far from the distortion of the 2409 02:24:49,170 --> 02:24:53,100 American flag from us as a symbol of patriotism and to one 2410 02:24:53,130 --> 02:24:56,820 of oppression. And while the kneeling for our national anthem 2411 02:24:56,820 --> 02:25:00,000 on one football field, well, that was applauded pretty widely 2412 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:03,150 In the kneeling of a Christian high school football coach, 2413 02:25:03,150 --> 02:25:06,900 Coach Kennedy and prayer on another football field that got 2414 02:25:06,900 --> 02:25:10,890 him fired took the Supreme Court to write that wrong. Meanwhile, 2415 02:25:10,890 --> 02:25:14,190 children are being taught that America assistant system is 2416 02:25:14,190 --> 02:25:17,520 systemically excuse me racist. And for those of you without 2417 02:25:17,520 --> 02:25:21,210 kids, while the left says don't have them for the sake of the 2418 02:25:21,210 --> 02:25:24,990 planet, the polls just reaffirm what we've been witnessing for 2419 02:25:24,990 --> 02:25:28,500 decades, the decline of American values that have helped define 2420 02:25:28,500 --> 02:25:31,470 the national character of our country. A 2421 02:25:31,470 --> 02:25:34,320 Adam Curry: couple of things. One, if you really look at the 2422 02:25:34,320 --> 02:25:41,070 numbers, all this drops off 29th End of 2019 into COVID. So you 2423 02:25:41,070 --> 02:25:44,010 almost have to strike that from the record that three year 2424 02:25:44,010 --> 02:25:47,430 period. So they don't really tell you that it's like almost a 2425 02:25:47,430 --> 02:25:51,180 steady decline. And now we're, it's all the way down here to 2426 02:25:51,300 --> 02:25:56,790 once again, the very pretty Kelly McInerney. McEnaney is 2427 02:25:56,790 --> 02:26:02,310 bringing in religion bringing in a divisiveness, they all do it. 2428 02:26:02,730 --> 02:26:06,270 And yeah, and you got to where does this where does this come 2429 02:26:06,270 --> 02:26:09,210 from? Is this truly like, like that Russian guy said, oh, yeah, 2430 02:26:09,210 --> 02:26:12,600 we set this up 30 years ago, and I mean, you know, 2431 02:26:13,650 --> 02:26:15,990 John C Dvorak: it's been going it's just it's really paying its 2432 02:26:16,380 --> 02:26:18,930 we got enough people in the population now that is really 2433 02:26:18,930 --> 02:26:21,840 paying off. You can make good money. I talking about polls, I 2434 02:26:21,840 --> 02:26:25,590 got this poll thing you're gonna read. Because I think these 2435 02:26:25,590 --> 02:26:28,620 polls, you know, when I read this, you'll see what I'm 2436 02:26:28,620 --> 02:26:32,010 talking about. This is a poll from intelligent.com. And it's 2437 02:26:32,010 --> 02:26:35,430 about college students. The headline is, survey finds one in 2438 02:26:35,430 --> 02:26:39,750 April, prospective students refused to attend Florida public 2439 02:26:39,750 --> 02:26:44,700 colleges due to DeSantis as education policy. Now, I'm going 2440 02:26:44,700 --> 02:26:47,850 to read this thing I'm going to read part of the results. I'm 2441 02:26:47,850 --> 02:26:51,930 going to read a kicker. Survey results show that 91% of 2442 02:26:52,020 --> 02:26:55,740 prospective college students disagree with DeSantis public 2443 02:26:55,740 --> 02:26:59,550 policies among this group, 27% say they're unlikely to attend 2444 02:26:59,580 --> 02:27:04,350 Florida State School and 57% say they these numbers are actually 2445 02:27:04,350 --> 02:27:08,550 quite high when you hear what the kicker is saying they are 2446 02:27:08,550 --> 02:27:12,390 likely to attend those of those unlikely to attend the state 2447 02:27:12,390 --> 02:27:17,310 school. 49% say it's due to DeSantis his education policies. 2448 02:27:17,340 --> 02:27:20,910 Oh, really. Conversely, the top cited reason prospective 2449 02:27:20,910 --> 02:27:23,700 students will attend a state school despite disagreeing with 2450 02:27:23,700 --> 02:27:27,480 the Santas are all the schools locations in school programs. 2451 02:27:27,480 --> 02:27:31,170 Okay. All however, 78% are concerning certain that this 2452 02:27:31,170 --> 02:27:34,980 education policies will negatively impact education. 2453 02:27:35,220 --> 02:27:40,080 Now, the kicker to all these polls is who took the poll? 2454 02:27:40,800 --> 02:27:42,270 Adam Curry: Yes. And we'll be good to know. 2455 02:27:42,930 --> 02:27:46,440 John C Dvorak: You want to hear it? We took the poll. Okay. 1000 2456 02:27:46,440 --> 02:27:50,940 Florida students who disagree with DeSantis his educational 2457 02:27:50,940 --> 02:27:57,090 policies, completed the full survey. Wow. So will you start 2458 02:27:57,090 --> 02:28:01,170 off? Yeah. Does this remind you of anything? 90% of all 2459 02:28:01,170 --> 02:28:02,850 scientists. Yeah. 2460 02:28:02,880 --> 02:28:04,800 Adam Curry: Climate change. Yep, exactly. You 2461 02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:09,270 John C Dvorak: take a group that hates the Santas and pull them 2462 02:28:10,380 --> 02:28:13,110 and they give you a negative result unto Santas. And then you 2463 02:28:13,110 --> 02:28:18,660 make that the headline, this is bullcrap. This is a virtual lie. 2464 02:28:18,690 --> 02:28:23,070 Adam Curry: And it's meant to create division, the American 2465 02:28:23,070 --> 02:28:26,250 media model and I think you nailed it. You can make a lot of 2466 02:28:26,250 --> 02:28:30,240 money with this just like climate change. And there it is. 2467 02:28:30,570 --> 02:28:33,480 For the root of all evil is the love of money. 2468 02:28:34,380 --> 02:28:38,430 John C Dvorak: Now, before we split, I have one more lying 2469 02:28:38,430 --> 02:28:43,230 clip which will really get your hackles up. Okay. You remember 2470 02:28:43,230 --> 02:28:49,380 the 2020? Portland riots? Yes, of course. Well, let's just try 2471 02:28:49,380 --> 02:28:54,210 to rewrite history as best we can. on PBS, they have this new 2472 02:28:54,210 --> 02:28:58,410 woman on there was kind of a multi CultI looking south Asian 2473 02:28:58,410 --> 02:29:01,860 type. I can't figure out what her ethnic background is. But 2474 02:29:01,860 --> 02:29:05,730 she's new. And she's takes part in all these. And here she is 2475 02:29:05,730 --> 02:29:10,500 discussing with another with a guest per book. And you'd listen 2476 02:29:10,500 --> 02:29:13,620 to this and tell me what's wrong with this report. 2477 02:29:14,070 --> 02:29:18,420 Unknown: And Adrian, your piece titled New anarchy, you explore 2478 02:29:18,450 --> 02:29:22,350 years of political violence, some by militia groups in 2479 02:29:22,350 --> 02:29:26,730 America and abroad, and you focus heavily on violent clashes 2480 02:29:26,730 --> 02:29:30,810 in Portland in 2020. You report that were instigated by right 2481 02:29:30,810 --> 02:29:35,250 wing extremists. Do you think that those clashes in 2020 in 2482 02:29:35,250 --> 02:29:39,540 Portland are a warning that that they could potentially happen on 2483 02:29:39,540 --> 02:29:40,950 a larger scale nationally? 2484 02:29:41,580 --> 02:29:44,910 I think that when you talk to people in Portland, do you hear 2485 02:29:44,940 --> 02:29:48,000 some who would say that would happen there was really unique 2486 02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:52,110 to Portland, and not necessarily replicable. But when you look at 2487 02:29:52,110 --> 02:29:57,060 it, sort of broadly the sense that right wing extremists 2488 02:29:57,060 --> 02:30:01,230 confined a city that may be left leaning Seeing or 2489 02:30:01,230 --> 02:30:04,560 disproportionately represented by left leaning folks and go 2490 02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:07,410 there and sort of draw them out into violence, which is what 2491 02:30:07,410 --> 02:30:10,080 happened in Portland. Certainly you can imagine that happening 2492 02:30:10,110 --> 02:30:17,250 either blue cities surrounded by read excerpts. And so I think 2493 02:30:17,490 --> 02:30:20,280 more than that, though, it's less about replicating what 2494 02:30:20,280 --> 02:30:23,160 happened in Portland and more just a sense that political 2495 02:30:23,160 --> 02:30:27,330 violence is by pretty much every measure worsening in America and 2496 02:30:27,540 --> 02:30:31,200 paying attention to sort of the how that trend line is going and 2497 02:30:31,200 --> 02:30:33,630 what we should be doing about it. This 2498 02:30:33,630 --> 02:30:37,530 Adam Curry: was literally Black Lives Matter of Antifa. 2499 02:30:37,590 --> 02:30:40,920 John C Dvorak: It was it was the George Floyd riots, right? Yes, 2500 02:30:40,920 --> 02:30:43,200 Adam Curry: yes. Wow, is 2501 02:30:43,200 --> 02:30:49,470 John C Dvorak: that right wing? This is a lie. This is PBS 2502 02:30:49,560 --> 02:30:54,600 gaslighting, the American public, at least the public that 2503 02:30:54,600 --> 02:31:00,240 religiously watches PBS. This is gaslighting. This is bull crap. 2504 02:31:01,020 --> 02:31:03,810 Unknown: I'm gonna show my school buy donate to no agenda. 2505 02:31:03,870 --> 02:31:06,990 Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun 2506 02:31:15,090 --> 02:31:17,040 John C Dvorak: and with that, we have a few people to thank. 2507 02:31:18,600 --> 02:31:25,650 Adam Curry: On that high note, everybody JC the on fire. I like 2508 02:31:25,650 --> 02:31:26,850 I like you on fire. 2509 02:31:27,270 --> 02:31:29,940 John C Dvorak: Sir herb lamb starts us off and he's in Sugar 2510 02:31:29,940 --> 02:31:32,610 Hill, Georgia. We haven't heard from him for a while. Good to 2511 02:31:32,610 --> 02:31:36,210 see him. And he says he actually makes me I see what he said. He 2512 02:31:36,210 --> 02:31:42,030 says we have been overboard. Oh no. So he came in with 160 16 2513 02:31:42,030 --> 02:31:43,500 which is two boobs. 2514 02:31:45,150 --> 02:31:47,970 Unknown: Oh man, man overboard. 2515 02:31:48,000 --> 02:31:52,110 John C Dvorak: Glad you're joining JD and Nashville 2516 02:31:52,110 --> 02:31:56,700 Tennessee honor and $50 He wants to de douching 2517 02:31:59,310 --> 02:32:00,780 Unknown: that too. Yeah, he wants that. 2518 02:32:02,520 --> 02:32:04,020 You've been deed do 2519 02:32:05,580 --> 02:32:07,830 John C Dvorak: we get some jobs karma at the end? Sure. 2520 02:32:07,830 --> 02:32:11,250 Abundance of coal and he came in at 150 Sure abundance of caution 2521 02:32:11,250 --> 02:32:17,130 came in with a 12345 and he is in Maitland Florida. He wants 2522 02:32:17,160 --> 02:32:18,060 we'll give him some 2523 02:32:18,150 --> 02:32:20,370 Adam Curry: his money health karma for his mom. Yeah, you 2524 02:32:20,370 --> 02:32:21,780 bet. And it's Mom, 2525 02:32:22,230 --> 02:32:25,200 John C Dvorak: David Britton, Charleston, South Carolina 115. 2526 02:32:25,680 --> 02:32:33,960 A Stephen or Stephen Stephen Curry, a cold glassy air cold 2527 02:32:33,960 --> 02:32:38,370 glazier is his last name and Fernand Fernand Dena Beach, 2528 02:32:38,880 --> 02:32:43,200 Florida 101 Dino and in Carstairs, Alberta, Canada, 100. 2529 02:32:43,290 --> 02:32:46,620 Dino and comes in again from Alberta, Canada with 100. If 2530 02:32:46,620 --> 02:32:49,080 that's true, we're gonna bump him up to Associate Executive 2531 02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:53,040 Producer guy. Thanks. If you can make a note, sir. Hold my beer. 2532 02:32:53,100 --> 02:32:58,380 Your buddy in Austin, Texas. $100. Douglas Murray. They the 2533 02:32:58,380 --> 02:33:01,740 guy we had early the British guy with Bezos, all his books. 2534 02:33:02,190 --> 02:33:05,190 Adam Curry: He was very concerned about we need to pause 2535 02:33:05,190 --> 02:33:06,240 need to pause. 2536 02:33:06,570 --> 02:33:08,970 John C Dvorak: I guess he's in Missoula, Montana. And he ate 2537 02:33:08,970 --> 02:33:15,210 338 which is boobs, meat palindromes. You know 808 is 2538 02:33:15,210 --> 02:33:19,230 also boobs meat palindromes. So you know, very good, but you got 2539 02:33:19,230 --> 02:33:22,500 33 in the middle, Sir Kevin McLaughlin, continuing his 2540 02:33:22,500 --> 02:33:26,070 streak from locust North Carolina 808. 2541 02:33:27,000 --> 02:33:27,840 Adam Curry: meet that guy. 2542 02:33:29,250 --> 02:33:30,870 John C Dvorak: While he's in North Carolina probably go to 2543 02:33:30,870 --> 02:33:37,290 one of the meetups. I guess that seems like a cool guy. I don't 2544 02:33:37,290 --> 02:33:41,400 know where locust is where it is in the map. Robert Ludwig in 2545 02:33:41,400 --> 02:33:46,830 Nevada, Iowa 808 And it's a boob donation for his late wife's 2546 02:33:46,830 --> 02:33:53,100 51st birthday a 310 F cancer game Chris. He acts in 2547 02:33:53,100 --> 02:34:00,030 Springfield, Virginia 808. And she has some things to say about 2548 02:34:00,030 --> 02:34:06,150 the newsletter and complimented you. Just so you know. Spencer 2549 02:34:06,150 --> 02:34:10,050 Whitney is somewhere over in Baffin Island BC A Oh, a lotta 2550 02:34:10,050 --> 02:34:13,320 eight. Oh, he's today to string Bucha location somewhere or 2551 02:34:13,320 --> 02:34:18,330 Baffin Island. Tom? Tim Tao in San Jose California. 808 Terrier 2552 02:34:18,330 --> 02:34:25,650 Gary blatten Wayne, Pennsylvania 7777 Dominic jacobowsky in Lake 2553 02:34:25,650 --> 02:34:33,720 Geneva Wisconsin. 7770 sir silver in in Silver Springs 2554 02:34:33,720 --> 02:34:38,010 Maryland. Seven seven nice jobs karma given you that at the end. 2555 02:34:39,000 --> 02:34:42,900 Minister cat lot of people need karma today. Yeah, Minister cat 2556 02:34:42,900 --> 02:34:47,700 and Austin, Texas. You know him. He has never missed an episode. 2557 02:34:48,600 --> 02:34:55,440 Austin 75 Jacob Quist in Wyoming Michigan 75 Greg Kohler in 2558 02:34:55,440 --> 02:34:59,610 Evansville, Indiana. 6502 Sir Andrew Walker in Pittsburgh, 2559 02:34:59,610 --> 02:35:03,570 Pennsylvania. And he's 6034 showed a burst games. Jamie 2560 02:35:03,570 --> 02:35:08,490 Buell in Vista California 606 small business are quirky and 2561 02:35:09,810 --> 02:35:16,890 blue Florida. group this is 606. Again another boob donation. 2562 02:35:17,340 --> 02:35:22,770 This is the best he can do. Oscar Fernandez and wagon and 2563 02:35:22,770 --> 02:35:28,470 gigging wagon in in Boston rocketing. vakantie singing in 2564 02:35:28,470 --> 02:35:33,390 Netherlands loves the show 60 bucks. Peter Chung, Lakewood, 2565 02:35:33,390 --> 02:35:36,720 Washington 5510. James Frederick's and MacFarlane? 2566 02:35:36,750 --> 02:35:39,150 MacFarlane, Wisconsin 5510 That's 2567 02:35:39,150 --> 02:35:41,520 Adam Curry: a survival podcast donation. Oh, that's 2568 02:35:41,520 --> 02:35:42,150 interesting. Oh, 2569 02:35:42,449 --> 02:35:44,999 John C Dvorak: that's a good podcast. I mean, nerds in Green 2570 02:35:44,999 --> 02:35:49,379 Bay, Wisconsin. 5510. John jolly and Yukon, Oklahoma. 5444. 2571 02:35:49,379 --> 02:35:54,119 Andrew Edwards Niceville Niceville, Florida $51. Bob 2572 02:35:54,119 --> 02:36:02,969 Butland coming. Georgia $50.69. Alan Huffman in Urbandale, 2573 02:36:03,240 --> 02:36:08,340 Adam Curry: Iowa, a geo City's donation. Okay, 2574 02:36:08,910 --> 02:36:12,480 John C Dvorak: it's $2.42. He mentioned it was originally geo 2575 02:36:12,480 --> 02:36:13,290 pages. 2576 02:36:13,320 --> 02:36:14,730 Adam Curry: I forgot about that. 2577 02:36:15,360 --> 02:36:17,100 John C Dvorak: I can guess there's still a situps and you 2578 02:36:17,100 --> 02:36:19,410 know, there's actually someone's back that up. Put it on the 2579 02:36:19,410 --> 02:36:23,280 internet. Sure. Jace, Janice. Oh, I'm sorry. This is Dame 2580 02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:27,570 night in Edmonds, Washington. I always remember that to $2.15 2581 02:36:27,570 --> 02:36:34,770 Brandon Ellsbury, in DeLand, Florida. 5011. You rock IDM Mmm. 2582 02:36:35,460 --> 02:36:39,360 Got it. Now the following are $50 donors name and location, 2583 02:36:39,540 --> 02:36:42,840 starting with Michael Elmore in Gastonia North Carolina Greg 2584 02:36:42,840 --> 02:36:46,440 Hartlaub. In Cincinnati, Ohio, Richard Gardner in New York, 2585 02:36:46,860 --> 02:36:54,030 Sunny paying and Lee Lancashire UK. The Erin vise Gerber in Bend 2586 02:36:54,030 --> 02:37:00,390 Oregon, Kelsey love video in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Andrew 2587 02:37:00,390 --> 02:37:05,040 garland oak, Kala Florida ZEV green in Teaneck, New Jersey, 2588 02:37:05,040 --> 02:37:10,140 you know that? Sure, Chris Goodman in Leander, Texas. Ray 2589 02:37:10,140 --> 02:37:14,010 Howard in Kremmling, Colorado Amy Zipkin in Greensboro, 2590 02:37:14,010 --> 02:37:17,610 Georgia, Kim Winship in Rancho Santa Fe, California, Justin 2591 02:37:17,610 --> 02:37:22,410 Kaler and bluffs down Bluffton, Indiana. David Steele in Mobile, 2592 02:37:22,410 --> 02:37:26,850 Alabama Jill woods in Ocean Grove, New Jersey. Brian sharp 2593 02:37:26,850 --> 02:37:32,040 in Huntsville, Alabama. Herbert Hesse's Spring, Texas, Brad lot 2594 02:37:32,040 --> 02:37:36,540 of 50s Brent Chicky in Lake Worth, Florida Kyle man in 2595 02:37:36,540 --> 02:37:44,670 Cincinnati, Ohio Julie Mina Dale in Costa Mesa, Brandon Locklear 2596 02:37:44,670 --> 02:37:48,960 and Sugar Hill, Georgia Aaron Joyce in New York, Pennsylvania, 2597 02:37:49,200 --> 02:37:56,130 Angela Pickering and sour Lake Texas. Pollen Kilbourne in 2598 02:37:56,130 --> 02:38:01,290 Lawrenceburg, Tennessee. Colleen K Hill in San Francisco a. 2599 02:38:02,010 --> 02:38:06,000 Patrick cannon in Cranford, New Jersey. Anonymous in Oklahoma 2600 02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:13,500 City. Andrew Watson in Fairhope, Alabama. Claudia dilemma dilemma 2601 02:38:13,530 --> 02:38:18,810 the lemme in pair of Perixx Ville, Quebec, there's a better 2602 02:38:18,810 --> 02:38:24,300 way of pronouncing it. I know. Mark is benders in Cebu City, 2603 02:38:24,540 --> 02:38:27,450 Philippines. Yeah. That's pronounced correct 2604 02:38:27,480 --> 02:38:31,770 Adam Curry: Dutchman living in in the Philippines? No. Life. 2605 02:38:33,000 --> 02:38:35,130 John C Dvorak: Sir Mike and Georgetown, Texas. And last on 2606 02:38:35,130 --> 02:38:39,630 the least or last two is Steven Crummey. And l Cahoon. And the 2607 02:38:39,630 --> 02:38:42,990 man's in Parts Unknown. Thank you all for helping make this 2608 02:38:42,990 --> 02:38:45,330 show a success. Today it was 2609 02:38:45,360 --> 02:38:48,630 Adam Curry: Yes, thank you all as well. And they make good from 2610 02:38:49,020 --> 02:38:50,580 synonymous of Dogpatch. And 2611 02:38:52,260 --> 02:38:56,850 John C Dvorak: I have to explain this. Okay. So I make a point of 2612 02:38:56,850 --> 02:38:59,100 always giving his numbers outright because he has these 2613 02:38:59,100 --> 02:39:01,200 numbers, his codes we think which we don't 2614 02:39:01,200 --> 02:39:03,570 Adam Curry: know what they mean, but they are clearly important. 2615 02:39:04,530 --> 02:39:07,140 John C Dvorak: And on the last one, I said it was what was it? 2616 02:39:07,140 --> 02:39:09,780 What does it say? 2415 2252 I 2617 02:39:09,780 --> 02:39:10,470 Unknown: think you said? 2618 02:39:33,000 --> 02:39:33,480 Who knows 2619 02:39:33,480 --> 02:39:34,530 Adam Curry: what could have have very bad 2620 02:39:34,710 --> 02:39:38,460 John C Dvorak: feel bad time in 15 years that I made that kind 2621 02:39:38,460 --> 02:39:42,960 of blunder with a guy of the importance of Sir autonomous so 2622 02:39:42,960 --> 02:39:43,950 I apologize. 2623 02:39:44,160 --> 02:39:47,220 Adam Curry: Yeah, of course. Well, it's the first time and we 2624 02:39:47,250 --> 02:39:54,390 will try to never make it again. Sorry about that, John. See, so 2625 02:39:54,390 --> 02:39:57,540 that we had that and while of course we want to thank 2626 02:39:57,540 --> 02:40:00,180 everybody who support including our executives. was the 2627 02:40:00,180 --> 02:40:03,540 executive producers and also people came in under $50. These 2628 02:40:03,540 --> 02:40:06,390 are sustaining donations. They're very, very important 2629 02:40:06,390 --> 02:40:09,990 because when like last show, things are low at least we have 2630 02:40:09,990 --> 02:40:13,170 a base we really appreciate that you can find more about that how 2631 02:40:13,170 --> 02:40:16,290 you can participate, how you can become a producer of any kind. 2632 02:40:16,320 --> 02:40:19,320 Unknown: for.org/in 2633 02:40:19,380 --> 02:40:22,680 Adam Curry: A and we have a couple of karma is here. 2634 02:40:27,120 --> 02:40:29,880 Unknown: You've got karma, and then 2635 02:40:30,210 --> 02:40:32,010 Adam Curry: jobs, karma, jobs, 2636 02:40:32,160 --> 02:40:36,390 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs, or jobs. 2637 02:40:39,750 --> 02:40:41,940 Adam Curry: And thank you all very much for supporting the no 2638 02:40:41,940 --> 02:40:42,690 agenda show. 2639 02:40:49,710 --> 02:40:53,190 Ambersons Happy Birthday to David M. celebrating today. 2640 02:40:53,190 --> 02:40:56,070 David Silva wishes sir grumpy old Boomer a happy birthday 2641 02:40:56,070 --> 02:41:01,710 turned 69 today, John, Tom and John drawn 45 today Robert 2642 02:41:01,710 --> 02:41:04,020 Ludwig wishes his late wife a happy birthday she would have 2643 02:41:04,020 --> 02:41:08,760 been 51 today. Sure Andrew Walker turns 34 today and Ryan 2644 02:41:08,760 --> 02:41:11,760 Tiernan will be celebrating his birthday on April 1 Happy 2645 02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:15,930 birthday from everybody had the best podcast in the universe. We 2646 02:41:15,930 --> 02:41:20,250 have no titles but we do have a dame and two nights to bring 2647 02:41:20,250 --> 02:41:24,990 into our family. Oh, that's a good one. You don't bring that 2648 02:41:24,990 --> 02:41:30,600 one out often. Sir nights DC wife up on stage here Judy and 2649 02:41:30,600 --> 02:41:35,340 carpenter and Lau posts are potay All of you have supported 2650 02:41:35,340 --> 02:41:37,860 no agenda show one way or the other in the amount of $1,000 or 2651 02:41:37,860 --> 02:41:40,080 more. It's the honor system. We trust you implicitly and I'm 2652 02:41:40,080 --> 02:41:44,280 very proud to announce the cake be as damn bronc rider of the 2653 02:41:44,280 --> 02:41:48,960 mountain desert sir bluejay of the Western slough and certainly 2654 02:41:48,960 --> 02:41:51,390 all night of the Freedom mountain for you. We've got 2655 02:41:51,390 --> 02:41:54,390 hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay wet napkins and small 2656 02:41:54,390 --> 02:41:57,060 rocks. We got some other things like beer and blondes we got 2657 02:41:57,060 --> 02:42:00,180 Reuben Reuben and Rosae Geisha and Saki Vaca, Manila bong hits 2658 02:42:00,180 --> 02:42:02,970 and bourbon sparkling cider SBIRT, ginger ale and durables. 2659 02:42:03,240 --> 02:42:06,390 He got breast milk and tapetum. Or of course the big favorite at 2660 02:42:06,390 --> 02:42:10,470 the round table mutton and Mead. All three of you please go to no 2661 02:42:10,470 --> 02:42:12,960 agenda rings.com and anyone could check it out if you want 2662 02:42:12,960 --> 02:42:15,150 to see what these handsome and beautiful rings look like. 2663 02:42:15,300 --> 02:42:17,760 They're Signet rings, which means you can totally hit people 2664 02:42:17,760 --> 02:42:20,340 in the mouth with them and it will leave a mark or you can use 2665 02:42:20,340 --> 02:42:23,340 the enclosed wax to seal your important correspondence with 2666 02:42:23,610 --> 02:42:27,240 and press it right in there. And of course we have a certificate 2667 02:42:27,240 --> 02:42:30,120 of authenticity. Thank you again for supporting the no agenda 2668 02:42:30,120 --> 02:42:32,280 Show. Welcome to the roundtable know what 2669 02:42:40,200 --> 02:42:43,800 we got on the meetup list. These are producer organize meetups. 2670 02:42:43,800 --> 02:42:47,550 This is where you need to go if you are serious about your your 2671 02:42:47,550 --> 02:42:51,900 community community. The no agenda Gitmo nation community 2672 02:42:51,900 --> 02:42:56,310 you can actually print just starting in an hour. So go to 2673 02:42:56,310 --> 02:43:00,810 the Denver area. April Fool's writers room meet up that'll be 2674 02:43:00,960 --> 02:43:05,250 today at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. Tomorrow the 2675 02:43:05,250 --> 02:43:08,760 must be high number nine, seven o'clock at McSorley's, wonderful 2676 02:43:08,760 --> 02:43:13,620 Saluton Taborn in Toronto, Ontario, Canada Navia Lena Yeah, 2677 02:43:14,040 --> 02:43:15,270 me yeah, you're gonna be there 2678 02:43:16,050 --> 02:43:18,840 John C Dvorak: surely is the best. Oh, you've been there? Oh, 2679 02:43:19,590 --> 02:43:20,370 yes, years ago. 2680 02:43:20,490 --> 02:43:23,160 Adam Curry: Also tomorrow the 2023 secret spy balloon 2681 02:43:23,160 --> 02:43:26,010 symposium seven o'clock at cowboy Jax in Bloomington, 2682 02:43:26,010 --> 02:43:29,910 Minnesota on Saturday April Fool's but which is no joke, the 2683 02:43:29,910 --> 02:43:34,050 OC Oh Casey, who Oui oui, who we meet up not a joke. April Fool's 2684 02:43:34,080 --> 02:43:38,160 Day meet up one o'clock at gare garage more and more Oklahoma. 2685 02:43:38,640 --> 02:43:42,870 We have the NA Fort Wayne club 33 weekend dancers at one 2686 02:43:42,870 --> 02:43:46,350 o'clock at halls Tavern and Coventry in Fort Wayne, Indiana. 2687 02:43:46,350 --> 02:43:49,770 Indiana. The Hoosiers man they're off the hooks. Also on 2688 02:43:49,770 --> 02:43:53,310 Saturday local 512. No agenda no Fool's day meet up one o'clock 2689 02:43:53,310 --> 02:43:56,550 and Doc's backyard Sunset Valley of course Baron Scott of The NA 2690 02:43:56,550 --> 02:44:00,720 Armony armory will be hosting that the Osaka Castle cherry 2691 02:44:00,720 --> 02:44:05,010 blossom blossom viewing and amygdala shrinking 133 Japan 2692 02:44:05,010 --> 02:44:09,420 time Osaka Castle Park Osaka, Japan at Sur bill of Osaka 2693 02:44:09,420 --> 02:44:12,360 that's actually a pretty good group. And they've been around 2694 02:44:12,360 --> 02:44:17,760 for over 10 years at least. The tiny MC delay of Anchorage April 2695 02:44:17,760 --> 02:44:21,390 Fool's potluck two o'clock sir Lane's house Anchorage, Alaska, 2696 02:44:21,600 --> 02:44:25,800 go to no agenda meet ups.com For details on the location. The 2697 02:44:25,800 --> 02:44:29,430 Northeast Ohio April Fool's Day no foul and not a joke meet up 2698 02:44:29,430 --> 02:44:32,850 three o'clock a bottle house brewery and meadery in Cleveland 2699 02:44:32,850 --> 02:44:36,270 Heights Ohio and the long awaited southwest Chicago 2700 02:44:36,270 --> 02:44:39,180 suburbs meet up six o'clock at two brothers townhouse in 2701 02:44:39,180 --> 02:44:42,930 Aurora, Illinois. This is all Saturday, April Fool's Day FEMA 2702 02:44:42,930 --> 02:44:46,500 Region four championship seven o'clock Central buffalo wings in 2703 02:44:46,500 --> 02:44:51,780 Ridgeland, Mississippi and we have the SIR Jeff. Jeff tow 2704 02:44:51,780 --> 02:44:55,320 Hague. The US is on Sunday show day that in the morning, not a 2705 02:44:55,320 --> 02:44:59,160 joke. Meet up one o'clock at Urban 360 Pizza, Albuquerque, 2706 02:44:59,160 --> 02:45:02,730 New Mexico. Oh Say hi to Jeff he's a great guy. Plenty more 2707 02:45:02,730 --> 02:45:05,010 meetups if you can't make those throughout the month of April 2708 02:45:05,010 --> 02:45:06,990 and it continues all the way goes all the way through next 2709 02:45:06,990 --> 02:45:10,470 year basically you can find all these at no agenda meetups.com 2710 02:45:10,740 --> 02:45:14,460 They are producer organized. You have no idea how much you will 2711 02:45:14,460 --> 02:45:17,220 have in common with people who look nothing like you Aquila 2712 02:45:17,250 --> 02:45:21,630 nothing like you it's it's incredible to witness one of 2713 02:45:21,630 --> 02:45:24,480 these go ones it's like potato chips you will have to go again 2714 02:45:24,510 --> 02:45:27,120 and again and again and it's connection to your community 2715 02:45:27,120 --> 02:45:30,750 connection is protection no agenda meetup.com always like a 2716 02:45:30,750 --> 02:45:53,430 party with all the nice day be triggered all you say is like I 2717 02:45:53,460 --> 02:45:57,870 got so wrapped up in everything today I have exactly zero ISOs 2718 02:45:58,050 --> 02:46:00,870 John C Dvorak: I have none either I thought you would give 2719 02:46:00,870 --> 02:46:05,220 us give you you had to default was counting on you. Well, you 2720 02:46:05,220 --> 02:46:08,580 made a mistake. What happened was my my little Beelink 2721 02:46:08,580 --> 02:46:12,960 computer blew up a really that doesn't happen often. Well, it 2722 02:46:12,960 --> 02:46:16,290 wasn't a computer, it turns out like they had a backup poll 2723 02:46:16,290 --> 02:46:19,350 computer so I just grabbed it from the other room. But I 2724 02:46:19,350 --> 02:46:22,350 didn't I had to uninstall all this stuff, you know, over and 2725 02:46:22,350 --> 02:46:26,730 over. That's why you've got an old D T file. I had to install I 2726 02:46:28,350 --> 02:46:32,940 Unknown: didn't notice the odt file it going open source. I 2727 02:46:32,940 --> 02:46:33,630 love that. 2728 02:46:34,680 --> 02:46:37,230 John C Dvorak: So I had to lay out a guide I lost all my 2729 02:46:37,230 --> 02:46:40,740 passwords luckily I figured out most of the passwords I was set 2730 02:46:40,740 --> 02:46:44,550 for no agenda socialists I didn't go back on there and it 2731 02:46:44,550 --> 02:46:47,880 was the hardest little hard disk that's the little the hardest 2732 02:46:47,880 --> 02:46:53,130 little little solid state drive the little bitty one it's wow I 2733 02:46:53,130 --> 02:46:56,760 tried put it in the other machine no not when boot that I 2734 02:46:56,760 --> 02:47:00,900 lost him. Yes knowing but that machine still works but I've got 2735 02:47:00,900 --> 02:47:03,720 to populate it with a hard disk as well. I'm 2736 02:47:03,720 --> 02:47:05,910 Adam Curry: going back in the archives years ago I don't do 2737 02:47:05,910 --> 02:47:08,520 some needle drops we'll pick one Okay, here we go. needle drop 2738 02:47:08,520 --> 02:47:16,380 one. Okay. needle drop to the powerful control now that's too 2739 02:47:16,380 --> 02:47:22,680 long. needle drop three. Yes, my fat all right. needle drop four. 2740 02:47:24,510 --> 02:47:27,060 John C Dvorak: Let's go in love you mean it love you. We haven't 2741 02:47:27,060 --> 02:47:27,930 done that forever. 2742 02:47:27,960 --> 02:47:30,600 Adam Curry: Alright. Love you mean it is? We have not done 2743 02:47:30,600 --> 02:47:35,760 that forever. Okay, that is how about that. That rarely happens. 2744 02:47:35,910 --> 02:47:39,570 John C Dvorak: That happens. So we had one thing to mention. I 2745 02:47:39,570 --> 02:47:42,930 do have a clip for it. Which is that the great I'm gonna be 2746 02:47:42,930 --> 02:47:47,760 arrested Tuesday. scam that you called out. Yes. You know what's 2747 02:47:47,760 --> 02:47:52,050 happened, right? I know. I honestly grant play the clip 2748 02:47:52,050 --> 02:47:55,140 Grand Jury delayed a month and the 2749 02:47:55,140 --> 02:47:58,260 Unknown: Manhattan Grand Jury examining former President 2750 02:47:58,260 --> 02:48:01,980 Trump's alleged role in the hush money case is taking a month 2751 02:48:01,980 --> 02:48:05,520 long break. Meanwhile, a judge has ordered Mike Pence to 2752 02:48:05,520 --> 02:48:07,590 testify in the January 6 probe. 2753 02:48:07,800 --> 02:48:10,980 The Manhattan Grand Jury investigating allegations by 2754 02:48:10,980 --> 02:48:14,280 district attorney Alvin Bragg against former President Trump 2755 02:48:14,340 --> 02:48:17,520 isn't expected to vote on an indictment for at least a month. 2756 02:48:17,760 --> 02:48:21,660 According to sources. The reason? A pre planned month long 2757 02:48:21,660 --> 02:48:23,760 break that was scheduled in January. 2758 02:48:25,800 --> 02:48:29,340 Adam Curry: Okay, well, that was Ray storm and a glass of water, 2759 02:48:29,610 --> 02:48:33,930 as we say in the old country. Well, there's a couple of things 2760 02:48:33,930 --> 02:48:37,290 that that I'm going to save until Sunday. We do have some 2761 02:48:37,290 --> 02:48:40,980 interesting news from Ukraine, which we did not touch on at all 2762 02:48:40,980 --> 02:48:47,970 today. So we'll do that. We have well, I'm going to leave with 2763 02:48:47,970 --> 02:48:55,920 this. Let me see. Where did I have this? I just had this clip 2764 02:48:55,920 --> 02:48:59,670 that I also Israel. I have some boots on the ground information 2765 02:48:59,700 --> 02:49:03,780 about Israel, which I think will be will be fun to 2766 02:49:03,780 --> 02:49:06,180 John C Dvorak: watch on the ground about the situation in 2767 02:49:06,510 --> 02:49:12,210 Tennessee. I didn't hear what do you mean? You said you didn't 2768 02:49:12,210 --> 02:49:15,660 say that. You get a read from a boots on the ground report. 2769 02:49:15,690 --> 02:49:19,020 Adam Curry: No, I my boots on the ground was this was real. I 2770 02:49:19,020 --> 02:49:20,820 have two people two friends who 2771 02:49:20,849 --> 02:49:24,509 Unknown: Okay. All right. Right. Okay, that that was confused. 2772 02:49:24,810 --> 02:49:28,230 Adam Curry: I think that was that was good enough. But this 2773 02:49:28,230 --> 02:49:35,100 one. This is Monica Crowley, who was a former assistant secretary 2774 02:49:35,100 --> 02:49:38,430 of the Treasury. I'm not sure if that's an important job. I 2775 02:49:38,430 --> 02:49:40,860 John C Dvorak: don't think that's true. Yes, that is true. 2776 02:49:41,820 --> 02:49:44,880 Monica crotchet Monica Crowley all she ever was was the 2777 02:49:45,960 --> 02:49:48,480 administrative assistant to Richard Nixon. 2778 02:49:49,620 --> 02:49:56,490 Adam Curry: No. Take a look before we leave, I don't want to 2779 02:49:56,490 --> 02:50:01,050 be wrong. She's not she's not old enough. Monica. Crowley, 2780 02:50:01,410 --> 02:50:02,910 maybe thinking of someone else. 2781 02:50:03,060 --> 02:50:04,560 John C Dvorak: Or maybe there's a different Monica Crowley, 2782 02:50:04,560 --> 02:50:07,560 she's not she looks younger than she Monica. Elizabeth 2783 02:50:07,560 --> 02:50:11,340 Adam Curry: Crowley born 1968. So she's younger than I am, was 2784 02:50:11,340 --> 02:50:15,060 the Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs for the US 2785 02:50:15,060 --> 02:50:17,610 Department of the Treasury. So that is an Assistant Secretary 2786 02:50:17,610 --> 02:50:22,020 but public affairs. She's a PR, she's a PR lady. Well, that 2787 02:50:22,020 --> 02:50:25,740 makes sense, because she was going on and on and on about the 2788 02:50:25,740 --> 02:50:28,590 banking crisis. And I thought you'd get a kick out of this. 2789 02:50:28,620 --> 02:50:28,920 Oh, 2790 02:50:28,950 --> 02:50:31,950 Unknown: Monica, the world's reserve currency said it's a 2791 02:50:31,950 --> 02:50:34,530 privilege for the United States for the dollar to have been the 2792 02:50:34,530 --> 02:50:38,460 world's currency. What? How does that relate to each individual 2793 02:50:38,460 --> 02:50:41,580 American? How has that changed or impacted or improved our 2794 02:50:41,580 --> 02:50:43,920 lives throughout the last several decades? 2795 02:50:44,280 --> 02:50:46,980 Yeah, I mean, it's given the United States incredible 2796 02:50:46,980 --> 02:50:51,540 dominance in the world in terms of the economic system, and in 2797 02:50:51,540 --> 02:50:56,400 terms of trade, it's kept prices down, whether it's energy 2798 02:50:56,400 --> 02:51:00,750 prices, whether it's your food prices, the entire global 2799 02:51:00,750 --> 02:51:05,670 economic system is reliant on the safe and secure dollar. But 2800 02:51:05,670 --> 02:51:08,580 that is no longer true, again, because we've been printing 2801 02:51:08,580 --> 02:51:12,300 money like crazy and devalued the power of the dollar and the 2802 02:51:12,300 --> 02:51:16,890 value of the dollar. But on top of it now, again, oil is the 2803 02:51:16,890 --> 02:51:20,880 critical linchpin of this, if Saudi Arabia decides to join 2804 02:51:20,880 --> 02:51:24,810 with America's enemies here, and start trading oil in different 2805 02:51:24,810 --> 02:51:28,620 currencies, that is going to undermine the entire global 2806 02:51:28,620 --> 02:51:31,110 economic system. And here at home, you know what it's going 2807 02:51:31,110 --> 02:51:34,830 to mean, for us, it's going to be raging inflation, so much 2808 02:51:34,830 --> 02:51:38,430 worse than anything we have ever experienced. Well, and I'll tell 2809 02:51:38,430 --> 02:51:42,090 you, they're setting it up so that they can then come to the 2810 02:51:42,090 --> 02:51:46,830 rescue by introducing central bank digital currencies, if they 2811 02:51:46,830 --> 02:51:49,620 were to do that. And the United States already has a public 2812 02:51:49,620 --> 02:51:54,210 program. That means the loss of your individual economic 2813 02:51:54,210 --> 02:51:57,570 freedom, because the government will have total access and 2814 02:51:57,570 --> 02:52:01,740 control of everything you buy and sell and the ability to turn 2815 02:52:01,740 --> 02:52:02,760 it off like that. 2816 02:52:02,910 --> 02:52:05,490 Adam Curry: Oh, man, when I hear that, I know, I know. It's never 2817 02:52:05,490 --> 02:52:11,790 gonna happen. ruin it. totally ruined it. I thought she was a 2818 02:52:11,790 --> 02:52:17,220 real like financial person. She's a PR lady. Jip, Jip again, 2819 02:52:18,300 --> 02:52:20,790 John C Dvorak: was she also has a race used to have a radio talk 2820 02:52:20,790 --> 02:52:23,640 show and yeah, she's, 2821 02:52:24,120 --> 02:52:25,890 Adam Curry: you mean like us? We have a radio talk 2822 02:52:25,890 --> 02:52:27,570 John C Dvorak: show. Ken arena. 2823 02:52:28,950 --> 02:52:31,680 Adam Curry: Alright, everybody. Hope you enjoyed today's 2824 02:52:31,680 --> 02:52:34,320 deconstruction of the news. I hope that your amygdala is 2825 02:52:34,320 --> 02:52:38,400 properly sized. Let's not go out and rage and don't fall into the 2826 02:52:38,430 --> 02:52:43,410 outrage trap that the mainstream media, social and otherwise 2827 02:52:43,410 --> 02:52:46,830 wants you to fall into. It's just not worth it. Go outside. 2828 02:52:47,820 --> 02:52:48,690 Take a deep breath, 2829 02:52:48,690 --> 02:52:51,240 John C Dvorak: right? Yes, exactly. That's some fresh 2830 02:52:51,240 --> 02:52:58,080 Adam Curry: air. Have a glass of Pinot coming up next we've got a 2831 02:52:58,080 --> 02:53:02,160 no agenda stream.com hawk story with Carolyn Blaney and and Sir 2832 02:53:02,160 --> 02:53:07,650 John Fletcher. Episode 345. That's got to be a good one. And 2833 02:53:07,650 --> 02:53:10,920 of show mix. We've got a nice Sir Michael Anthony produced by 2834 02:53:10,920 --> 02:53:17,280 Matty J A joint and a classic from Darren O'Neill, which is 2835 02:53:17,460 --> 02:53:22,350 DeVore X chair gently squeaks by popular request coming to you 2836 02:53:22,350 --> 02:53:24,810 from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here and FEMA Region 2837 02:53:24,810 --> 02:53:27,600 number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry. 2838 02:53:28,380 --> 02:53:30,840 John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John Cena 2839 02:53:30,840 --> 02:53:32,010 boring. We return 2840 02:53:32,010 --> 02:53:34,560 Adam Curry: on Sunday with another show of full of 2841 02:53:34,560 --> 02:53:38,430 deconstruction. Till then remember us at the vortech.org/n 2842 02:53:38,430 --> 02:53:46,920 A. Adios mofos and a hui Hui and such in the morning 2843 02:54:04,290 --> 02:54:12,300 Unknown: love as media deconstruction for share 2844 02:54:12,540 --> 02:54:23,760 jellies, Squeaks stovies allies and worldwide 2845 02:54:29,340 --> 02:54:31,920 gently squeezed. 2846 02:54:39,810 --> 02:54:46,680 No grease 2847 02:54:57,750 --> 02:55:01,560 Stone Hill And now 2848 02:55:08,220 --> 02:55:19,710 I love the world and I can see evidences burning for as chair 2849 02:55:19,890 --> 02:55:30,420 gently squeeze lies no 2850 02:55:36,660 --> 02:55:38,400 gently squeeze suite 2851 02:56:16,230 --> 02:56:21,900 know you can't ignore it 2852 02:56:37,530 --> 02:56:38,640 hauritz 2853 02:56:50,010 --> 02:56:50,730 World 2854 02:56:59,280 --> 02:57:17,880 gently squeezed is tricky round cream gently sweet 2855 02:57:32,520 --> 02:57:34,710 gently swaying 2856 02:58:18,960 --> 02:58:27,840 yo city receives your mail we got too many we got we got too 2857 02:58:27,840 --> 02:58:34,380 many hate grants everybody in this city knows that moving 2858 02:58:34,380 --> 02:58:41,280 outside of my house second time rats and rats on the train bats 2859 02:58:41,280 --> 02:58:44,940 on the street and rats in my brain the only good rat is a 2860 02:58:44,940 --> 02:58:49,650 dead rat ain't gonna stop until every rat is facing speakers but 2861 02:58:49,650 --> 02:59:01,170 a new SI and know where to eat notice money that was the order 2862 02:59:01,170 --> 02:59:07,740 in which to be wrapped up in 2863 02:59:14,400 --> 02:59:31,740 even by crying every 38 drags a pads everybody 2864 02:59:52,080 --> 02:59:58,500 MoPhO boruch.org/in A loving minute