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John C Dvorak: groovy. Adam
curry,

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Adam Curry: John C. Devorah.
Today March 19 2023 This is your

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award winning combination media
assassination episode 1539.

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Unknown: This is no agenda,
feeling incredibly

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Adam Curry: Irie and
broadcasting live from the heart

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of the West Indies Montego Bay,
Jamaica in the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry.

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John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley where we were

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wondering why there's such a
preoccupation with disgusting

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toe fungus. I'm Jhansi Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Wow, that's a
comeback. I didn't expect. I

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didn't expect to toe fungus
line.

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John C Dvorak: If you looked at
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fungus or scraping I'm there.
Digging into the toe. There's

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putting goop on the toes is
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Adam Curry: man. I know. This is
Yes, of course. I've seen those.

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It's gross.

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John C Dvorak: It's totally
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Adam Curry: gross. I'm in
Jamaica.

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John C Dvorak: Why might that
be?

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Adam Curry: Well, the keeper and
I decided to since we had had

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not had a vacation last year, we
as you recall it, it went to

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crap. Because of

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John C Dvorak: vacation where
you couldn't get out of the

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country. What was it? Well, the

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Adam Curry: flight was canceled
three times. And then by the

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time that could get us to Aruba,
we would have exactly three

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days. So we said no. And then,
of course I can't really take a

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full on vacation anymore because
we dropped two shows already

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this year because of the
procedure and probably at least

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another one end of April. Maybe
not but maybe so we just we need

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to keep our quota up we really
never drop more than two shows a

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year and this year might be
three so and there's a direct

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flight from Austin to Montego
Bay, if you can believe it once

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a week.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, drugs

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Adam Curry: it's actually a yes
drugs. It's actually a regional

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jet. So it's, you know, it's a
tiny one, two on one side when

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unless it's only three hours a
three hour flight. They go

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straight, straight down in
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once a week so if something's
wrong on next Saturday, then we

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have to stay here another week.
Unfortunately.

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John C Dvorak: Half Blizzard
taking a flight of Key West or

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two. I'm sorry, Miami.

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Adam Curry: actually about the
same. Except, you know, yeah,

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it's about the same. Let's get
into this that bad. No, this is

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perfect. For just a quick

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John C Dvorak: little it's
getting four hours to get to

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Hawaii.

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Adam Curry: Now of course, we
have to drive an hour and a half

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to Austin first. Yeah, yes.
Yeah. And yeah. And it was, you

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know, as the last weekend of
South by Southwest. So we had to

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get there on time, because Oh,
yeah, it was busy. Not as crazy

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as we've seen it before. But
man, what is wrought, TSA has

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gotten I mean, they've gone
completely to shit. Because you

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know, I'm carrying as the studio
bag, I got the studio bag, and I

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got the microphone and
headphones and another carry on

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bag. And, you know, so there's
seven people at TSA seven. One

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of course is you know, to check
your your ID make sure that

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you're okay, good to go. And
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There's two in the back. There's
another one who to more than one

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more, who apparently is only his
only job is to shuffle the bins

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around. Although they all take
turns at the bins. I've seen all

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of them. And then there's one
person who was checking bags

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with hand check. So here's how
it goes. My bags go through.

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They spend five minutes together
looking at my bag. You think if

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you saw something weird, just be
like, Okay, let's have someone

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check that. No, no, they're
pointing at it. They're looking

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at it. They're looking at me.
They're looking at this. Oh,

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John C Dvorak: stop. I've no
doubt you mentioned it. I've

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noticed this phenomenon.

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Adam Curry: I agree. It's
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John C Dvorak: Why are they
looking and looking and looking

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at the bag? Looking at me your
side? Why don't they just like

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you said push it over there and
have somebody open up see what

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it looks like they don't to X
ray it and

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Adam Curry: meanwhile, they
stopped the whole belt. The belt

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is stopped while my

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John C Dvorak: first bag. Yeah.
Production. Exactly.

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Adam Curry: Production there.
And there's two of them looking

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now. One comes Oh, all right. So
that goes up there. My second

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bag come to Oh, stop the belt.
Well, we got pointed this, look

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at this. And you go through the
layers, click click, click click

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Ma Ma It looks like a vibrator.
Let's let's embarrass this guy.

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So it's 15 minutes before,
before someone actually picks up

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my bag. Because they're just
sitting there next to the

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sideline. Could one of them pick
it up and go check it? No, no,

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there's one lady and she's doing
everything. And then and then

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I've never understood this
phenomenon. So then we'll take

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out the offending item which of
course was really only my

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microphone and one bag and
obviously two screens and The

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and the the road caster in the
other and then we're going to

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put those in bins, put those
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my bags without the offending
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I do not understand this it
makes no sense other than and by

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the way these people to hate
human beings security theater.

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Yeah. Oh, well we know that but
they hate human beings. You can

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just tell and I understand. I'm
sure it's a tough job. But back

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in the day when I was a kid,
even with these crappy jobs, the

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way Americans would handle that
would be good morning people.

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How you doing everybody? It's
it's let's Wakey wakey let's do

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this. You know how it sucks, but
we're gonna make a good day out

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of it. You know, someone would
have pizzazz. It would be make

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it fun. Make the line laugh. Now
you no one talks. They're just

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killing it man. Man Yeah, yes.
My name. Ah, it's, we're doomed.

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Doomed. It's been 30 years since
I was last year and went to the

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same place that I was 30 years
ago. Most of the people who

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aren't dead still work here.
Which is just crazy. I was here

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in my 20s and there's people
here in their 50s Mr. Curry, you

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have a new wife. I had my last
wife finally. I thought this

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place was was taken over by the
Chinese but that's not true.

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Because I've asked every bus had
Chinese and charged him now now

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now we've been holding that I
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control the island unless they
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and I'm not allowed to say it.
And you know the airport is just

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as nuts as twice as big, but
it's just as disorganized.

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Complete, completely. Just
chaos. Anyway, nice little nice

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a couple days here on the
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like to say since this is it's
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the road. When was the last road
trip I took Do you remember? Do

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you recall was that Florida?
Maybe?

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John C Dvorak: I don't know.
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Adam Curry: I have the portable
kit which it's all the same it's

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the same hard drive external
hard drive everything same

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except the computer and I just
open up the certain Of course I

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luckily I did this yesterday
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yesterday. Open up the windows
machine the surface. And the

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first What do you think? What
does this machine do? And I

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haven't touched it since then.
Haven't haven't done anything.

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What does it update? Oh, yeah.
Not just an update. Four hours

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of update you don't even get a
chance to say you know what? I'm

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okay. It was working fine. I you
know, you don't get to bypass

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that. No, it just does the
update and the update and the

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update. And then every other
applicant especially because you

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know we have Excel sheets. So I
open up Excel with our

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spreadsheet. No, no suspicious
activity. Because Excel was

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being opened somewhere else is
being opened in Jamaica. No, you

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have to get a code. What is
wrong with these people? And why

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can't I stop that either?

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John C Dvorak: Don't know, I see
the same thing. It's with all of

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them. It's not just Microsoft
Google.

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Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah.

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John C Dvorak: I've been having
trouble getting on Amazon to buy

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Adam Curry: Where are you? Are
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John C Dvorak: know Berkeley

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Adam Curry: It's an island we
should cut loose. I did notice

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that our tea is blocked on the
entire island that was kind of

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funny. Oh really? Why can't I
get artsy and like ah Okay, time

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to hit the VPN. There we go.
Yeah, at least I have in our

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last time I was here. It was
Cable and Wireless. Which had

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you know like the equivalent of
a dial up for the whole whole

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hotel you have to sit on the
porch and wait two hours to get

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your mail through pop three. So
at least they have they have

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good connectivity now and it
doesn't you know and you can t

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mobile is here works you don't
have to you don't have to pay $3

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a minute for a phone call. It's
just the world is still not

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straightened out. very
disheartening since our last

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show, and we deconstructed the
BBB party that won 17 seats in

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the in the Dutch government. The
Boer burka by vaping the farmers

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citizen build back better back
better 666 Party is very, very

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disheartening to see so many
journalists, you know, I'm

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looking at us Zero Hedge. We're
like, oh, Farmer party. Yeah,

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that makes sense. No one does
any research anymore. No. And

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then which makes me question all
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all fell in mind. He was pretty
good. Good because most Dutch

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people fell for it clearly
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man the deeper I get into the
party, these people are all in

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on tiny homes. They're all in on
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All Yeah, we got to save nature.
The they're exactly what the New

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World Order wants

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John C Dvorak: I might add
that's how you do it.

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Adam Curry: Well, yes, it's very
well done. But you know, like

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what's his name? Michael solemn
Sullenberger, you know, he was.

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He's a big anti climate change
guy. In fact, he is the anti

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climate climate change guy. He
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look, the farmers can do it. The
farmers. The people voted for

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the farmers. No, no, no. Anyway.
That's why your no agenda show

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is here is to keep you safe from
these kinds of scams, like the

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one one that is now being
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Unknown: former President Trump
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arrested on Tuesday and telling
his followers to protest in a

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post on his social media app.
Trump's saying he believes the

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charges will come from the
Manhattan District Attorney's

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office payments. What was that?

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Adam Curry: It's been Manhattan
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Unknown: he believes that come
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Adam Curry: Now, this is a feat
actually. We know that there's a

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skipping of the T's but to skip
two T's doesn't don't two T's

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really tell you. You've got to
put a t sound in there Am I

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nuts? Maha Manhattan,

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Unknown: Trump saying he
believes the charges will come

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from the Manhattan District
Attorney's Office and stem from

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alleged hush money payments that
Trump made to adult film star

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stormy Daniels during his first
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has not verified the claims. But
later a Trump spokesperson

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appearing to walk back saying
there's been no notification of

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charges from the DA blasting the
investigation as a witch hunt.

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Adam Curry: blasting the
investigation blasting. Okay,

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I'm going to tell you what I
think about this Trump did this

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himself. He set this up. This
was this was this was a hoax

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from the beginning. I saw these
reports coming through Trump

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gonna be arrested and first and
like Trump gonna be arrested. He

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might be indicted, but you can
just as it goes, you can indict

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a ham sandwich. You're not gonna
you're not gonna throw the ham

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sandwich in handcuffs and perp
walk him. So and was all

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John C Dvorak: here, it's sure
exactly what they left once.

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Well, yeah, they weren't a perp
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Adam Curry: But this, but yes,
but I think you know, Trump is

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seeing that DeSantis is getting
traction, not for all great

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things. But DeSantis definitely
is saying the right things about

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some topics. Now, despite his
billionaire backing and back,

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you know, let's just take the
Republican Party back to where

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it was. Everything's okay.
You're still a slave, but

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everything's gonna be much
better. Here's part two of this

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Jay, what more are you learning
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Maryland TAS investigation and
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common today after that Trump
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proceedings are secret, but we
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with prosecutors just this past
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jury. We also know that the DA
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a right to testify before this
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something that newer prosecutors
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Adam Curry: Now what before I
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this report, which is kind of
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say about this, anything you've
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John C Dvorak: share, they have
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they had most of want to talk
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of it. And this includes meat,
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whatever it is, meet the

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Adam Curry: pundits.

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John C Dvorak: The one with a
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Adam Curry: with a woman who is
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John C Dvorak: you know not to
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John C Dvorak: tastes. A woman
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Adam Curry: Campoli we just came
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John C Dvorak: That's a good day
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and so she would ask you about
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about Trump getting perp walked
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about Trump, everyone who came
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think about this Trump thing?
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arrested? i You think it's like
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why is Tuesday it reds tamale
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Tuesday? Where did Trump get
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every time he brought it gives
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every time he brings it up,
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the grand jury for leaking. And
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the Democrats are leaking all
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look bad, and if nothing else is
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possibility this is all bull
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just to get attention, but it's
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other side because they don't
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Adam Curry: Fight Of course,
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fight, fight, fight here. Listen
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parter, actually, it was so
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Unknown: welcome. So, so many
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because here is the former
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nobody else apparently knows.
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arrested next Tuesday. He says,
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for protests. That is a message
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YouTube. He's back on Facebook,
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become to come back to Twitter
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disseminating his messages on
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the President is going to happen
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right. This is the so called
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money case seven years in the
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district attorney is expected to
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awkward moments. Because as you
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to be protected by the Secret
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protected by the Secret Service
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basically accompany him for his
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mugshot and taking his
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Secret Service making sure it's
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Adam Curry: Weird, weird. He is
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anything I saw on on American
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John C Dvorak: this herb that
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that one. But it does sound
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we're getting. Now. Here's

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Adam Curry: the second part.

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Unknown: Right? Stiff on in
these post Trump wrote to his

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followers, I read it out to you
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he was posting leading up to the
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trump be indicted?

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Adam Curry: afraid. I love this
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German from the 70s. He
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Unknown: Yeah, right on, this is
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now, truth being told, and in
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Trump to has had to have still
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in Manhattan to protest for him
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indictment. But of course,
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they're meeting and that is FBI.
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Department, of course, Secret
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all those agencies and many
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least a week or two now behind
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out okay, what are we going to
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measures are we taking? And you
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preparations are well underway
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it's happening, that there will
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of protesters? Whenever this is
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president's former president is
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Adam Curry: Ah, thank you,
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John C Dvorak: Good question
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again, this whole thing is
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have to wait and see sketch. I
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was indicted in an award went
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own Secret Service people have
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have to defend him by law. Don't
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Service is a law enforcement
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Adam Curry: Listen to the rain.
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John C Dvorak: It gets a little
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Adam Curry: It gets a little
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John C Dvorak: can hear it.

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Adam Curry: Wouldn't they have
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John C Dvorak: agency wouldn't
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know. Well, the Secret Service
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Adam Curry: No, but they are
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John C Dvorak: but that wasn't
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Adam Curry: I don't know what
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John C Dvorak: Law. I think
that's a question is why this is

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interesting, because I bet you
somebody in the audience knows

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the answer to that question.

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Adam Curry: But I think that
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John C Dvorak: the law
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Adam Curry: Yeah, about money.
Isn't it? My mother also?

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John C Dvorak: I don't know. Now
we see. We're just showing you

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what we don't know. And I'll
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Adam Curry: but but at least we
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John C Dvorak: right on far out.
Groovy.

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Adam Curry: I want to write on
you wanna hear the NBC report,

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which includes all the scores,

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Unknown: what do we know about
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damaging does it appear to be
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Adam Curry: himself, and this
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has, you know, I'm learning to
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earbuds in and he's using that
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NBO. Yes. Listen, how muffled he
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Unknown: in this transaction,
and that he's the one who set it

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up. He's actually the one who
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Adam Curry: He's actually
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John C Dvorak: I never blessed
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be ashamed. And

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Adam Curry: we're not going to
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too too nasty.

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John C Dvorak: Anyway, I
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even have one's loan clip on
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Adam Curry: Well, it because I
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go, I should probably

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John C Dvorak: know, somebody's
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Adam Curry: Now what I have now
for me the next story booth

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would be actually it's no
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have. Let me see. We have
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possibly being arrested. And we
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current President Putin. So

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Unknown: thank you very much.
The the actual arrest warrant is

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not publicly available. There
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today by the ICC, where they
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is about. And, as already
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as being accused of being
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unlawful deportation of
population and their their

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specify children, and that of
unlawful transfer of property of

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the unlawful transfer of these
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to the Russian Federation. The
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ICC, is saying that there are
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for these crimes. So this is
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Adam Curry: So this is again,
Georgia Bella report. I have a

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US report, but I thought this
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know that the International
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standing neither in Russia or in
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but it's 127 countries have
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were already talking about, you
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that is attached to the ICC, but
that wasn't really feeling good

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because it was only about the
crimes of aggression. So they

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Adam Curry: Devon, the
kidnapping of children is CBS.

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Unknown: Russian propaganda
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save Ukraine's children and that
the hearts of Russians are big

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and benevolent. But the
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today was clear. Russia is
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children as rushed re educated,
accused of war crimes our

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President Vladimir Putin himself
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of these alleged abductions, why
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commit such a criminal
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without the order of the top
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recognize the ICC.

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John C Dvorak: That poor blonde
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Adam Curry: so now every now
everyone has an opinion because

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you know, the ICC Oh, everyone
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in Russia. But if he travels to
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them the US by the way, is not a
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that he could be arrested.

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Adam Curry: Now this was great
how they positioned that so he

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could be arrested the us it was
really good. Just the ending

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way is not a signatory, that
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Adam Curry: me just bakes that
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means you could be arrested but
not in America. But oh, that's

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John C Dvorak: you, right?
That's a very curious structure.

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Adam Curry: It was like it was
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John C Dvorak: It's one of those
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no question.

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Adam Curry: So, you know, he
can't travel because yeah, he's

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gonna get arrested, not in the
US, but you're gonna get

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arrested, you're gonna get
arrested. And then

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Unknown: the Russian news
agencies are saying that

447
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Vladimir Putin is in Mariupol. I
would be careful when we see

448
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pictures. We know that Vladimir
Putin he also uses doppelgangers

449
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for visits. And he's not known
folks.

450
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Adam Curry: Did you see this? So
Putin is in Mario Pol. He's in

451
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the movie theater there that
apparently the Russians bombed

452
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and killed everybody in the
theater. But you know, let's

453
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just make sure Deutsche Bella
points out that he uses

454
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doppelgangers all the time you
know, so this is this is

455
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probably not the real Putin all
of a sudden, they're using our

456
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conspiracy theories.

457
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Unknown: No doubt Vladimir Putin
also uses doppelgangers for

458
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visits. And he's not known for
traveling around on the

459
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frontline, however, be it him
beat a doppelganger. Well, this

460
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is highly seen as a provocation.

461
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Adam Curry: That's not me, by
the way. That's this lady. Oh,

462
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yeah,

463
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Unknown: this is seen as a
provocation on two levels. The

464
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first one is that Vladimir
Putin, he's a head of state, but

465
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now it's been two days. He's
also been a wanted war criminal.

466
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He so this is a provocation
towards the international

467
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community. First and foremost,
it also shows her later he cares

468
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about about the search warrants
issued by the International

469
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Criminal Court. The second
provocation, of course, is

470
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towards Ukraine itself. He's
traveling in occupied

471
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territories, and he's traveling
to the city that has really been

472
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seen here as a martyr city as
one where war crimes were

473
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perpetrated, you know, at a
scale that really shocked not

474
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just in Ukraine, but also
internationally. Of course, I'm

475
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talking about Mariupol. I'm
talking about this bombing on a

476
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hundreds of civilians who were
taking shelter in the theater,

477
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:23,370
their thesis, one of the war
crimes that will be

478
00:27:23,370 --> 00:27:26,910
investigated, both here and by
the international community.

479
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John C Dvorak: Where does this
report come from

480
00:27:29,070 --> 00:27:29,790
Adam Curry: Deutsche Avella?

481
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John C Dvorak: Don't they get
better people than her?

482
00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:35,070
Adam Curry: Well, this was the
connection. She was you know,

483
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she's on her own iPhone. Or as
they say, endorsed on iPhone.

484
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And so yeah, she just has a
crappy connection. But as she's

485
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saying, you know, this
doppelganger, no response and of

486
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:51,240
course, Putin is not really him.
It's a doppelganger, a

487
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doppelganger. And instead of,
you know, when he's in the

488
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theater, that's just clearly a
fake theater just can't be

489
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right. You know, hundreds of
people were killed there. While

490
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he's his, of course, his
propagandists from him from him.

491
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He's walking around in the
theater that he supposedly was

492
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responsible for blowing up. So
the propaganda wars are on and

493
00:28:14,010 --> 00:28:16,920
it's fun back to CBS back to
CBS.

494
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:19,560
Unknown: What's the likelihood
that Vladimir Putin will ever be

495
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,340
held accountable? He

496
00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:22,710
hasn't been indicted. He's not
like, extradite,

497
00:28:22,770 --> 00:28:25,020
Adam Curry: unlike Trump, he
hasn't even been indicted. mean

498
00:28:25,020 --> 00:28:27,060
we treat Putin better than
Trump.

499
00:28:27,060 --> 00:28:29,640
Unknown: What's the likelihood
that Vladimir Putin will ever be

500
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,420
held accountable? He

501
00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:33,060
hasn't been indicted, he's not
likely to be extradited to the

502
00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:34,680
Hague anytime soon.

503
00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:37,320
Adam Curry: extradited to the
Hague, I mean, these people are

504
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,100
insane.

505
00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:41,400
Unknown: He's still firmly in
control of, by the way,

506
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:45,450
Adam Curry: how can you even say
this, knowing that the United

507
00:28:45,450 --> 00:28:49,020
States does not recognize the
International Criminal Court and

508
00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:53,430
even suggest that he is not
likely to be extradited to the

509
00:28:53,430 --> 00:29:00,840
Hague? The whole thing is just
the mainstream media and five

510
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,540
average comic it's comic, yeah,
they're going nuts.

511
00:29:03,570 --> 00:29:06,210
Unknown: What's the likelihood
that Vladimir Putin will ever be

512
00:29:06,210 --> 00:29:06,990
held accountable, he

513
00:29:06,990 --> 00:29:09,630
hasn't been indicted, he's not
likely to be extradited to the

514
00:29:09,630 --> 00:29:13,710
Hague anytime soon. He's still
firmly in control of Russia and

515
00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:18,420
no sitting leader has ever faced
such charges. But it could be

516
00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:21,090
the beginning of something here
because the court went straight.

517
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:27,030
Top didn't go low level and
build. And so for blondes to

518
00:29:27,030 --> 00:29:27,360
come,

519
00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:31,170
Adam Curry: they pick her up. I
don't think they picked

520
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,890
John C Dvorak: me they picked on
her Oh, yes. That mo but she

521
00:29:34,890 --> 00:29:36,540
can't go to Paris anymore. The
poor woman

522
00:29:36,570 --> 00:29:40,410
Unknown: top they didn't go low
level and build. And so it

523
00:29:40,410 --> 00:29:43,830
suggests that there's more of a
case to come as Ramy said

524
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:47,520
traveling could be more helpful
if he tries to leave and can

525
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,880
only now go to friendly
countries. But here in the US,

526
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Adam Curry: he went to Ukraine,
a friendly country. Well done.

527
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,500
People

528
00:29:55,530 --> 00:29:58,020
Unknown: traveling could be more
difficult for the Putin if he

529
00:29:58,020 --> 00:30:02,070
tries to, and can only now go
friendly countries. But here in

530
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:04,830
the US, we know that the bind
administration is already

531
00:30:04,830 --> 00:30:08,340
building a case and looking
towards future charges

532
00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:12,630
potentially of genocide. They've
identified 43 camps holding at

533
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:16,110
least 6000 children and as
Secretary Blinken said, this is

534
00:30:16,110 --> 00:30:19,950
an attempt to really erase
Ukraine's identity and its

535
00:30:19,950 --> 00:30:22,950
future. Some of these camps are
closer to Alaska than they are

536
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:23,610
to Ukraine.

537
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:27,960
Adam Curry: So we went from
kidnapping to genocide in 53

538
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,640
seconds. So it first it was re
educating, re educating the

539
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,120
children take him to camps,
kidnapping. Now it's genocide,

540
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,990
because you're brainwashing them
into and taking them away from

541
00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:44,730
you. It's the future of Ukraine.
These children, what are those

542
00:30:44,730 --> 00:30:48,360
children even doing? When were
they taken? And how can we're

543
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,240
only kind of did we know about
this? I don't remember any of

544
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,790
this. Oh, yeah. We had it. We
had this was

545
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John C Dvorak: the this was the
evacuation of the kids in

546
00:30:57,450 --> 00:31:03,420
Donbass area only. Before they
blew they started. It was it was

547
00:31:03,420 --> 00:31:07,440
it was they moved into Russia.
So, for safekeeping. There was a

548
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,900
lot of reporting on this. It was
always done. The early

549
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:16,650
reporting, which is at least six
months ago was it was as a

550
00:31:16,650 --> 00:31:18,810
humanitarian thing I have.

551
00:31:19,140 --> 00:31:26,100
Adam Curry: What is this? This
is from November 2022,

552
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,280
Unknown: a Ukrainian company
revealed its new body armor for

553
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,780
children designed to where as
they evacuate the war zone, they

554
00:31:33,780 --> 00:31:34,110
go

555
00:31:34,170 --> 00:31:38,400
Adam Curry: well, but where were
they evacuating? Was that to

556
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,250
Russia? That report from ABC
makes it sound like the

557
00:31:41,250 --> 00:31:43,260
Ukrainians were evacuating them?

558
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,140
John C Dvorak: Well, in some
cases they weren't depends on

559
00:31:46,140 --> 00:31:48,450
where they spoke Russian or
Ukrainian. I mean, a lot of it

560
00:31:48,450 --> 00:31:51,840
had to do with the ethics
background of the kids. Okay,

561
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,250
we're taking the Russian kids
got it to Russia. So I guess

562
00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:59,010
that's Kidambi now I have a
series I didn't want to bring

563
00:31:59,010 --> 00:32:03,990
these in right now. But I always
have clips about show you what

564
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:08,700
kind of propaganda that our side
is doing. Good. This This is

565
00:32:08,730 --> 00:32:11,220
Mark glum, man, I don't normally
do tea.

566
00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:13,830
Adam Curry: Because he is he the
great wine?

567
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:16,710
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's the
great one. Okay, any Hannity,

568
00:32:16,740 --> 00:32:19,980
which is funny to watch because
of the two big promoters of the

569
00:32:19,980 --> 00:32:20,370
war.

570
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,390
Adam Curry: Yeah, on Fox, the
fox war war twins, the war twins

571
00:32:24,990 --> 00:32:27,390
John C Dvorak: live in zone.
Sundays, but Levin's got a radio

572
00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:33,570
show. And he promotes the war
and thinks that everybody's he

573
00:32:33,570 --> 00:32:36,870
just basically promotes the war.
But you have to listen to him

574
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:39,600
when he goes on one of his
rants. And I've got three clips

575
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,660
where he's describing the
problem, the reason that we

576
00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:45,990
should all be on board, and I
want you to listen carefully and

577
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:50,910
tell me what you think of this
analysis. This is Mark Levin on

578
00:32:50,910 --> 00:32:52,290
Ukraine raping.

579
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Unknown: I've talked about here,
Vladimir Putin. Whenever you

580
00:32:55,470 --> 00:32:58,650
think about what's going on over
there. This man is a monster.

581
00:32:58,860 --> 00:33:01,740
And what they're doing to the
Ukrainian people is horrendous.

582
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,640
And there is video of this.
There's pictures of this. They

583
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,060
can't show it on TV. It's so
horrific or the monk the Russian

584
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:12,330
soldiers are decapitating
people. I'm talking about

585
00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:17,280
citizens. They are gang raping
the women. The leaving the

586
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,660
condoms right next to them. Then
they murdered them.

587
00:33:21,899 --> 00:33:23,459
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness.

588
00:33:24,270 --> 00:33:27,810
John C Dvorak: Hold on a second.
Hey, Ivan. No raping without

589
00:33:27,810 --> 00:33:30,300
condom. Kind of

590
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:32,760
Adam Curry: raping is this this
is not a good rape.

591
00:33:32,790 --> 00:33:35,910
John C Dvorak: Hold on a second
was your raping. Get that condom

592
00:33:35,910 --> 00:33:36,540
on buddy.

593
00:33:36,570 --> 00:33:39,090
Adam Curry: Wait take your
Viagra first hold on hold on we

594
00:33:39,090 --> 00:33:42,180
got the patent the emergency
packets here it's always the

595
00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:42,960
same.

596
00:33:43,710 --> 00:33:45,510
John C Dvorak: Now the other
thing about the raping with

597
00:33:45,510 --> 00:33:48,270
condoms, which is just
ludicrous. If you think about

598
00:33:48,270 --> 00:33:52,980
it, is that then you raping and
you kill? Now the the

599
00:33:53,250 --> 00:33:58,290
traditional historic raping
process is to overtake the

600
00:33:58,290 --> 00:34:03,480
genetics of the of the land that
you're conquering. And in the

601
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:03,930
women

602
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,050
Adam Curry: that's that is the
Yes. That's why you're not doing

603
00:34:07,050 --> 00:34:09,510
it just for yucks. Well, maybe I
don't know

604
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,570
John C Dvorak: where I'm at.
That's why half of the public in

605
00:34:12,570 --> 00:34:16,500
the United States and around the
world has epicanthal folds on

606
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:19,470
their eyes is because of the
Mongols who went into Eastern

607
00:34:19,470 --> 00:34:24,270
Europe and raped everybody and
put this genetic little gene

608
00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:28,380
into everybody's background and
you have this look that everyone

609
00:34:28,380 --> 00:34:29,700
has a lot of people have

610
00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:33,780
Adam Curry: i didn't i this I've
never heard this discussed

611
00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:37,470
anywhere. And by the way, it can
be very triggering if we're just

612
00:34:37,470 --> 00:34:40,200
laughing about raping which is
not funny at all. So I want to

613
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,850
say we're we understand this No,

614
00:34:41,850 --> 00:34:45,420
John C Dvorak: I'm I'm we're not
laughing at raping. We're

615
00:34:45,420 --> 00:34:49,770
laughing at the stupidity of
these commentaries. Yes. Because

616
00:34:49,770 --> 00:34:51,330
they make no sense.

617
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:55,860
Adam Curry: Oh man, I but I had
never really thought about it.

618
00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:58,590
But the mongrels who were raping
to spread the

619
00:34:58,650 --> 00:35:02,220
John C Dvorak: the Mongol manga
Congrats on mom growls on models

620
00:35:02,220 --> 00:35:03,300
role models goal.

621
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:12,060
Adam Curry: Sorry about that.
Yeah. This is so messed up. And

622
00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:14,430
does he have any evidence for
this? It is a war.

623
00:35:14,430 --> 00:35:16,710
John C Dvorak: They can't.
There's lots of videos but they

624
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:17,700
won't show him it.

625
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:19,740
Adam Curry: Has he seen them? I
mean, why doesn't he want to

626
00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:20,550
have no idea?

627
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,610
John C Dvorak: He's just this is
the most ridiculous thing I've

628
00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:24,240
ever heard

629
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,790
Adam Curry: before. After they
they blow up the toilets that

630
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:27,750
they hate so much.

631
00:35:28,410 --> 00:35:31,050
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Toilet
blowing up, they dropped to drop

632
00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:34,800
the ball on that. Here's another
little they've gone to clip to.

633
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:38,250
Unknown: They are enslaving the
children. But I've talked to you

634
00:35:38,250 --> 00:35:41,970
about before, and they're
shipping them to reeducation, or

635
00:35:41,970 --> 00:35:44,820
if you will concentration camps
in Russia and giving them to

636
00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:45,570
families.

637
00:35:46,590 --> 00:35:51,210
John C Dvorak: Okay, now that
just now, how do you go within

638
00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:54,630
just a short period of time for
two enslaving the children

639
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,680
sending into reeducation camps
and then giving them to families

640
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:04,230
all in? What a week? I mean,
don't you have to do some degree

641
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:07,290
and enslave the children? Don't
you enslave them it takes a

642
00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:10,920
while you know to get your
money's worth. And then get your

643
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:16,500
money education takes at least
six months. This is crazy.

644
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:20,400
Adam Curry: This was on on his
fox show.

645
00:36:21,090 --> 00:36:23,820
John C Dvorak: This is on his
radio daily radio show

646
00:36:23,850 --> 00:36:26,730
Adam Curry: on his radio show
was guys nuts.

647
00:36:27,450 --> 00:36:29,700
John C Dvorak: And well let's
vid since you're doing this.

648
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:31,530
Let's go with the clip tree.

649
00:36:32,430 --> 00:36:34,530
Unknown: And even though this
analogy is made too often,

650
00:36:34,530 --> 00:36:37,980
that's Nazism. That's exactly
what that is. That's exactly

651
00:36:37,980 --> 00:36:41,970
what that is. People are having
their faces smashed in with.

652
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:46,380
sledgehammers. hands are tied
behind their backs. They're held

653
00:36:46,380 --> 00:36:50,310
down. People are being burned
alive. In their corpses are

654
00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:54,780
found the side of the street,
they're finding mass graves from

655
00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:58,590
these little towns that they
conquer. And then when they're

656
00:36:58,590 --> 00:37:01,380
pushed out, they slaughter the
people there. That's what

657
00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:04,950
they're doing. And that's not
being told to you by the peut

658
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:07,650
noids or whatever they call
themselves.

659
00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:09,990
Adam Curry: The why the peut
noids

660
00:37:10,770 --> 00:37:13,350
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that'd be
Tucker Carlson. He hates him.

661
00:37:13,470 --> 00:37:15,450
Adam Curry: Oh, is that a cute
Noid

662
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,580
John C Dvorak: he's a cute Noid
now

663
00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:20,430
Adam Curry: Goodness gracious
this guy is first of all, screw

664
00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:24,510
this guy. I mean without one
shred at first Okay, war, of

665
00:37:24,510 --> 00:37:28,290
course atrocities happen in any
kind of war. They would say

666
00:37:28,290 --> 00:37:32,520
there's atrocities in the United
States on on this level every

667
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,570
single day that we don't talk
about. But But this level of

668
00:37:36,570 --> 00:37:39,360
this is this is really
unconscionable what he's saying

669
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,330
and do you think that people are
bought quote unquote, buying

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this from him?

671
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John C Dvorak: But his his fans
I'm sure are but the idea that

672
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this war which is a war of
attrition, as has been brought

673
00:37:51,390 --> 00:37:53,970
up? Yes. Where do you just get
killed you stand after you're

674
00:37:53,970 --> 00:37:58,260
dead? You have to be very
careful. You're not going to go

675
00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:03,150
around. Hey, there's a Ukrainian
let's grab him. Hold on. Ivan.

676
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:07,410
Let me find a sledge hammer,
which I just lugging around for

677
00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:11,100
no known reason because I need a
sledge hammer. And let's tie

678
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:14,730
this guy behind his back let me
Sledgehammer his head. Who has

679
00:38:14,730 --> 00:38:19,770
time for this bull crap. It's
insane. So I mean, this is the

680
00:38:19,770 --> 00:38:24,750
kind of stuff you get on talk
radio in the United States from

681
00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:26,460
guys that are pro war

682
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,660
Adam Curry: is really
disturbing. It would be

683
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described you'd get a kick out
of it well, and the kick is not

684
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:41,580
the right word. My goodness. Um,
I concede I was I think I was

685
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:46,800
pretty wrong about the about the
jet fuel on the drone. Yeah.

686
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Although, I was pretty sure it
wasn't to light the jet fuel on

687
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:53,940
fire. That was my thing.

688
00:38:55,980 --> 00:38:57,180
John C Dvorak: That'd be a funny
idea.

689
00:38:57,570 --> 00:39:01,710
Adam Curry: So I did get a note
from Dhotre. He's a Navy

690
00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:08,220
fighter, pilot and, and trainer.
doTERRA and you got it. He says

691
00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:12,510
the su 20. Sevens were indeed
dumping fuel from the video you

692
00:39:12,510 --> 00:39:15,300
can plainly see the fuel trail
coming from out of the aft

693
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:18,900
section of the fuselage. Most
operational military aircraft

694
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:22,440
had the ability to fuel dump
when dumping it does look like a

695
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,900
vapor trail as you were
describing because it is a vapor

696
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:28,050
trail. It's a vapor trail of
fuel. I know because I've done

697
00:39:28,050 --> 00:39:32,130
1000s and 1000s of pounds of JP
five in my career. I don't know

698
00:39:32,130 --> 00:39:35,040
if I should be telling this.
I've also been sprayed by FAA

699
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,950
teams who forgot to turn their
dumps off when waving them onto

700
00:39:37,950 --> 00:39:41,880
the ship. John C's idea that
they were dumping fuel to try

701
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and set it ablaze is incorrect.
Jet fuel is purposely blended to

702
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:49,830
increase its Flashpoint. I II
will not ignite without a really

703
00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:51,480
hot and sustained heat source.

704
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,260
John C Dvorak: This is true. He
says my guests I used to be in

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charge of JP for JP five when I
was at Union oil Tim Make sure

706
00:40:00,330 --> 00:40:03,210
that it was it didn't have a lot
of you have to be careful. It's

707
00:40:03,210 --> 00:40:04,140
got to be very dry.

708
00:40:04,170 --> 00:40:07,110
Adam Curry: What is what exactly
is JP is that just a great a

709
00:40:07,110 --> 00:40:08,160
fuel jet?

710
00:40:08,730 --> 00:40:11,490
John C Dvorak: Jet something jet
propulsion? Yeah, it's a great

711
00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:15,600
it's a great of kerosene as a
matter of fact. Okay, it's a

712
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,610
very high grade of kerosene.

713
00:40:18,690 --> 00:40:21,510
Adam Curry: The SU 27 aircraft
did strike the propeller of the

714
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:24,990
UAV he says I believe
inadvertently and it was simply

715
00:40:24,990 --> 00:40:28,860
a case of the es su 27 pilots
being a holes my guess is they

716
00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:31,650
were airborne they got boards
all the contact decided to play

717
00:40:31,650 --> 00:40:32,160
that game

718
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,070
John C Dvorak: and get closer to
highlights.

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00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:38,820
Adam Curry: Well, he fitted a
dump fuel on it since there are

720
00:40:38,820 --> 00:40:41,790
oh, we must prohibit rules of
engagement must prohibit

721
00:40:41,790 --> 00:40:45,330
engaging directly. The second
jet misjudged his closure and

722
00:40:45,330 --> 00:40:47,880
his vector and his tail hit the
prop when he was pulling away

723
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,740
from it during his run.

724
00:40:51,930 --> 00:40:54,450
John C Dvorak: Now, here's a
question that I would like to

725
00:40:54,450 --> 00:41:00,000
have him answer Sure. So they
show clearly in one of the films

726
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,090
The prop had a loading and at
the prop had a little band at

727
00:41:03,090 --> 00:41:03,930
the end without

728
00:41:03,930 --> 00:41:04,680
Adam Curry: the stripes.

729
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:09,570
John C Dvorak: And why couldn't
it continue to fly around?

730
00:41:10,590 --> 00:41:12,990
Adam Curry: Well, one of the
here's what I saw and at first I

731
00:41:12,990 --> 00:41:18,120
clearly saw that there was
stripes in one shot and no

732
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,790
stripes on the other I don't
know exactly what happened or

733
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:26,130
but one of the props was also
feathered. So you have now two

734
00:41:26,130 --> 00:41:32,760
blades basically in operational
they think they who knows where

735
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,240
they even were or what altitude
we don't know much.

736
00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:39,870
John C Dvorak: But they did show
one shot of you can see Crimea

737
00:41:39,870 --> 00:41:40,110
from

738
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:43,320
Adam Curry: Canterbury hard to
tell altitude from the ground up

739
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:43,860
or from Yeah,

740
00:41:43,860 --> 00:41:46,080
John C Dvorak: I'm not saying it
was up or down. I'm just saying

741
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,080
it was close enough. You can see
the island or whatever that

742
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,680
whatever.

743
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,680
Adam Curry: Yeah, whatever it
was. We don't know. I mean,

744
00:41:53,010 --> 00:41:55,470
there's I mean, and then people
are going to try deconstructing

745
00:41:55,470 --> 00:41:59,640
this forever. Because I saw the
blade thing and you know, there

746
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,220
was they didn't have the the
Russian star underneath the

747
00:42:02,220 --> 00:42:04,740
wing. There's lots of things
that are out there. But when the

748
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:08,610
Navy jet fighter pilot and
trainer says this us I think we

749
00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:11,010
just have to stop at least I
feel like I'm going to stop now.

750
00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:14,130
Because otherwise I'm just
making himself look foolish. And

751
00:42:14,130 --> 00:42:21,420
although I'm itching and then of
course we have the had the Jets,

752
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,100
the the old clunkers going from
Poland to Ukraine, which is

753
00:42:27,060 --> 00:42:28,920
which is also interesting.

754
00:42:29,010 --> 00:42:30,780
Unknown: Earlier, we spoke to
our correspondent manuals

755
00:42:30,780 --> 00:42:33,690
shares, she explained that the
new jets won't necessarily make

756
00:42:33,690 --> 00:42:35,400
much of a difference on the
ground.

757
00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:38,640
Adam Curry: So this is
interesting. This is France 24.

758
00:42:39,060 --> 00:42:42,420
Now, you know, I don't know
exactly how many old jets the

759
00:42:42,420 --> 00:42:45,960
polls are going to send, but
they're old. So they probably

760
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,710
have and you know this the rep
contacted them from the military

761
00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:50,970
industrial complex. Hey,

762
00:42:50,970 --> 00:42:52,860
John C Dvorak: can you get rid
of your MIG 29?

763
00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:55,350
Adam Curry: Get rid of that old
crap, we're gonna sell you some

764
00:42:55,350 --> 00:42:59,940
new stuff and you're gonna like
it, you're gonna buy it. So what

765
00:42:59,970 --> 00:43:03,570
what that lead in is they're not
going to make much difference.

766
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:09,120
Tell me where this lady actually
said that or if she even what

767
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,470
she's really saying at all.

768
00:43:10,530 --> 00:43:12,960
Unknown: Earlier we spoke to our
correspondent manuals shares She

769
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,540
explained that the new jets
won't necessarily make much of a

770
00:43:15,540 --> 00:43:16,860
difference on the ground,

771
00:43:16,890 --> 00:43:18,870
Adam Curry: which of course
makes sense because a jet

772
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:22,320
doesn't make much difference on
the ground. Unless you're

773
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,570
striking people on the ground.

774
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,510
Unknown: Just the full planes
that are going to come up for

775
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:28,620
Adam Curry: for planes.

776
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:30,330
John C Dvorak: Is it as strafing

777
00:43:30,750 --> 00:43:31,500
Adam Curry: What did I say

778
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,670
John C Dvorak: strafing

779
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:36,750
Adam Curry: I met Well, my teeth
are messed up strafing strafing

780
00:43:37,050 --> 00:43:37,920
John C Dvorak: certified

781
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:43,050
Adam Curry: for jet it's for big
deal or for

782
00:43:43,350 --> 00:43:44,880
Unknown: for Chadds Ford.

783
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:48,810
John C Dvorak: Just blow him up
over the troops maybe this stuff

784
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:51,330
falling down or kill someone on
the ground

785
00:43:51,419 --> 00:43:54,149
Unknown: just the full pains
that are going to come out of

786
00:43:54,149 --> 00:43:57,629
the ones that are going to make
a difference however if more and

787
00:43:57,629 --> 00:44:00,329
more planes are coming this
could be obviously a game

788
00:44:00,329 --> 00:44:04,709
changer at a time where Ukraine
is gearing up for what oh

789
00:44:04,709 --> 00:44:05,699
Western experts

790
00:44:05,730 --> 00:44:08,310
Adam Curry: I don't understand
she says it's not going to make

791
00:44:08,310 --> 00:44:11,520
much difference for but if more
calm Oh yeah, that'll be a game

792
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,110
changer. What's the level?

793
00:44:13,770 --> 00:44:15,450
John C Dvorak: Eight Yeah,
what's your number? Where's your

794
00:44:15,450 --> 00:44:16,950
where's your line? Where's your
red line?

795
00:44:16,980 --> 00:44:19,980
Unknown: I think will be a
counter a spring counter

796
00:44:19,980 --> 00:44:23,700
offensive. You were mentioning
Baramati it's a war of attrition

797
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:28,890
there a war that costs probably
1000s of lives you know it's

798
00:44:28,890 --> 00:44:30,330
been a war that has been

799
00:44:30,359 --> 00:44:32,849
Adam Curry: there's your war of
attrition which I didn't the

800
00:44:32,849 --> 00:44:36,119
first time you said it I didn't
it didn't even catch on with me.

801
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:39,029
I didn't really but now I'm
hearing it all the time the war

802
00:44:39,029 --> 00:44:42,869
of attrition which is the way
you World War One Yeah, the way

803
00:44:42,869 --> 00:44:46,919
you explain it is who who loses
more people. That's what that is

804
00:44:46,919 --> 00:44:47,459
actually.

805
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:51,570
Unknown: The positives of lives.
Uh, you know, it's been a war

806
00:44:51,690 --> 00:44:57,750
that has been waging for for for
over seven months there with

807
00:44:57,930 --> 00:44:59,970
Wagner mercenaries seven months

808
00:45:00,210 --> 00:45:04,800
Adam Curry: Oh, she's talking
about Bob moot. Is that what it

809
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,630
is? That's why because it's been
more than a year.

810
00:45:07,439 --> 00:45:08,939
John C Dvorak: I know, I have no
idea

811
00:45:08,969 --> 00:45:12,839
Unknown: trying to launch, you
know, dozens of offenses a day,

812
00:45:12,839 --> 00:45:16,379
but also miniature experts are
seeing that perhaps we've seen

813
00:45:16,379 --> 00:45:21,449
the combination of those fights
already. And it's, you know, and

814
00:45:21,449 --> 00:45:25,319
the Wagner mercenary group
simply don't manage to break the

815
00:45:25,319 --> 00:45:29,549
Ukrainian defense heavy, heavy
losses on both sides, but for

816
00:45:29,549 --> 00:45:34,739
for each five to seven Russian.
So these are mercenary of Wagner

817
00:45:34,739 --> 00:45:38,249
who dies as one Ukrainian
soldier who dies. So both, you

818
00:45:38,249 --> 00:45:43,169
know, both sides have casualties
but but really this the Russian

819
00:45:43,169 --> 00:45:43,529
troops?

820
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:46,409
Adam Curry: I'm also getting
pretty tired of this Wagner

821
00:45:46,409 --> 00:45:49,379
group, Wagner is that the only
people who are left fighting is

822
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the Wagner group.

823
00:45:50,459 --> 00:45:52,109
John C Dvorak: That's what it
sounds like to me.

824
00:45:52,469 --> 00:45:54,929
Adam Curry: I mean, so there's a
rushes out of people, it's only

825
00:45:54,929 --> 00:45:55,949
mercenaries.

826
00:45:56,369 --> 00:45:59,069
John C Dvorak: I you know, this
is not very well done this, this

827
00:45:59,069 --> 00:46:00,359
whole analysis.

828
00:46:00,839 --> 00:46:05,279
Unknown: I losing a lot, a lot
of personnel, a lot of equipment

829
00:46:05,579 --> 00:46:09,209
there and you were mentioning
bomba. Shelling is continuing

830
00:46:09,209 --> 00:46:14,249
over the region on top moot on
valida, which is also a fierce

831
00:46:14,429 --> 00:46:18,329
battle. And in Donetsk, of
course, civilians are bombed.

832
00:46:18,659 --> 00:46:21,209
There was a shelling last night,
which killed one person and

833
00:46:21,209 --> 00:46:22,379
injured several others.

834
00:46:22,469 --> 00:46:27,929
Adam Curry: I heard from
military contacts. Which at this

835
00:46:27,929 --> 00:46:31,649
point, I don't believe anybody,
but I really don't I mean, who

836
00:46:31,649 --> 00:46:34,229
can you believe this whole thing
could be wag the dog? I mean,

837
00:46:34,259 --> 00:46:35,159
from both sides?

838
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:38,040
John C Dvorak: I really don't
know. I'm not going to argue any

839
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,690
of that. We have very little

840
00:46:39,690 --> 00:46:42,840
Adam Curry: casualties to show I
mean, I'm getting video from

841
00:46:43,410 --> 00:46:46,770
from somewhere in the region.
And it's pretty horrible. You

842
00:46:46,770 --> 00:46:50,490
see Ukrainians, dead Ukrainians,
dead Russians, I mean, all kinds

843
00:46:50,490 --> 00:46:54,840
of stuff. But I'm getting
information that the explosive

844
00:46:55,890 --> 00:47:01,980
ordnance guys the or the good
ordnance guys that they say 90%

845
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:07,620
of all buildings destroyed in
Ukraine are from Ukrainian

846
00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:12,330
artillery. They just whatever
they don't even know what

847
00:47:12,330 --> 00:47:16,380
they're doing, apparently but.
But there's from that it's that

848
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:19,470
it's not from Russian artillery,
but Ukrainian artillery that

849
00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:20,640
that's been destroying yet

850
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,380
John C Dvorak: data. But don't
you remember that was from the

851
00:47:22,380 --> 00:47:26,280
beginning. We've had this issue.
When there were Ukrainians who

852
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,550
were bombing their own buildings
or che or they would say, look

853
00:47:29,550 --> 00:47:32,910
what the Russians did. Yeah. It
was almost a year ago. It's

854
00:47:32,910 --> 00:47:33,360
almost like

855
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,590
Adam Curry: they down that MH.
The Malaysian Airlines flight or

856
00:47:37,590 --> 00:47:37,860
that

857
00:47:37,890 --> 00:47:40,350
John C Dvorak: that Grey Ghost
guy, whoever it was, Oh, yeah.

858
00:47:40,350 --> 00:47:40,710
Oh, yeah.

859
00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:44,130
Adam Curry: That guy? Where's
he? Where's he flying the four

860
00:47:44,130 --> 00:47:48,180
jets? And it seems like even if
you have four jets, you could

861
00:47:48,180 --> 00:47:50,880
probably take out some military
installations. It would make a

862
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,120
difference on the ground. This
whole thing is sketch and the

863
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,140
worldwide press.

864
00:47:55,170 --> 00:47:57,480
John C Dvorak: You said you say
I don't know. I'm saying too

865
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:57,720
much.

866
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,540
Adam Curry: You're right. Yeah,
what should I replace it with?

867
00:48:01,050 --> 00:48:05,700
sketchy? Oh, sketchy. But even
with this where the word comes

868
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:09,210
from, but if I had taken one
letter off the word if I had

869
00:48:09,210 --> 00:48:11,550
said sketchy twice, you would
have called me out as

870
00:48:11,550 --> 00:48:13,830
John C Dvorak: well. No, no,
this sketch is like merch.

871
00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:19,950
Adam Curry: Wow, I need to flog
myself for that. That's bad.

872
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,010
Alright, let's let's go back to
CBS and see what else we have on

873
00:48:23,010 --> 00:48:23,700
Russia. And

874
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:27,870
Unknown: yet, President Xi of
China still plans this trip on

875
00:48:27,870 --> 00:48:31,800
Monday to stand side by side
next to Putin. Will this affect

876
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,580
any of that?

877
00:48:32,670 --> 00:48:36,450
Will he go? Well, China itself
is accused of carrying out

878
00:48:36,450 --> 00:48:39,570
actively a genocide against
minorities does NSI

879
00:48:39,570 --> 00:48:40,800
Adam Curry: everyone, everyone?

880
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,910
John C Dvorak: We got a genocide
guy here. And we got a genocide

881
00:48:44,910 --> 00:48:49,230
guy there. The genocide boys,
Jenny

882
00:48:49,230 --> 00:48:51,210
Adam Curry: brothers, that's
right against

883
00:48:51,210 --> 00:48:54,270
Unknown: minorities. Does it
bother Xi Jinping to stand next

884
00:48:54,270 --> 00:48:58,650
to an accused war criminal?
We'll see. But what we know has

885
00:48:58,650 --> 00:49:02,130
been happening is that as the
West tries to isolate Russia,

886
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,130
that tie between Russia and
China has only grown grown

887
00:49:05,130 --> 00:49:09,270
stronger through trade and
increased work together. The

888
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:13,170
White House is saying it hasn't
yet seen weapons transferred for

889
00:49:13,170 --> 00:49:15,240
use on the battlefield in
Ukraine. But they're

890
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:18,660
increasingly concerned that
there may be a military alliance

891
00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:20,430
between China and Russia.

892
00:49:20,490 --> 00:49:23,610
Adam Curry: Wow, man, these
people aren't that mean? Do they

893
00:49:23,610 --> 00:49:26,370
get up and take off their
uniform before they go to work?

894
00:49:28,650 --> 00:49:31,800
These people they just love war
that all jacked on war and

895
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:38,010
jacked on just using genocide
just willy nilly. And what

896
00:49:38,010 --> 00:49:43,350
happened? Our genocide of the
American Indians forgot about

897
00:49:43,350 --> 00:49:47,580
that. Alright, then we have a
last one from the CBS more I'm

898
00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:49,200
sorry, this is ABC. Now it here

899
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,780
Unknown: in the East in the
cover of darkness. A Ukrainian

900
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:54,570
special drone unit heads out
towards the frontlines,

901
00:49:55,529 --> 00:49:59,369
Adam Curry: Ukrainian special
drone unit. So let's just

902
00:49:59,399 --> 00:50:03,809
specify drones in this drones.
The drone that got hit by the

903
00:50:03,809 --> 00:50:08,759
Russian fighter jet that's a
proper drone. That's a drone

904
00:50:09,149 --> 00:50:12,839
drone drone. This thing is like
an Amazon drone. No, this

905
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,160
John C Dvorak: is like what do
you get for Christmas? around

906
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:17,970
the house.

907
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:20,760
Unknown: Special drone unit
heads out towards the front

908
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,540
lines. The team works fast only
using minimal light. They don't

909
00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:27,000
want to alert Russian
reconnaissance. This is the

910
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:32,520
Punisher a fixed wing drone
assembled in minutes. It can fly

911
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,530
so much further he can fly deep
behind enemy lines and open

912
00:50:37,530 --> 00:50:41,700
carry more ordinance. Take a
look at this. This is two

913
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:46,710
pounds. Well, I suppose the
Punisher can fly up to 40 miles

914
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,890
during missions like these are
critical to support frontline

915
00:50:49,890 --> 00:50:52,710
troops. And as these videos from
the Ukrainian Wait, what

916
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:55,740
Adam Curry: did they call drone
technicians 40 miles during

917
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:57,690
missions like the drone nations,

918
00:50:57,900 --> 00:50:59,790
John C Dvorak: no drone missions
like oh drone

919
00:50:59,790 --> 00:51:00,780
Adam Curry: missions I thought

920
00:51:01,050 --> 00:51:04,320
Unknown: it can fly up to 40
miles during missions like these

921
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,500
are critical to support
frontline troops. And as these

922
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:10,200
videos from the Ukrainian
military show, they aim to hit

923
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,230
ammunition stores artillery
positions, even suspected

924
00:51:13,230 --> 00:51:14,520
leadership locations

925
00:51:15,090 --> 00:51:16,560
upon Usher

926
00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:22,440
Adam Curry: to heck man this is
and this is all it's really I

927
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:27,030
predict this this season. This
Christmas season in stores hey

928
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:30,540
kids get it now. Dark Corner
sure you can be like the

929
00:51:30,540 --> 00:51:38,400
Ukrainians on the front lines
with honor shark Yeah, yeah, I'm

930
00:51:38,430 --> 00:51:44,670
so sick of this. It's just like,
can we stop now? I'm, I can't

931
00:51:44,670 --> 00:51:48,420
believe it. But I'm, I'm I'm
just I'm begging for GE to put

932
00:51:48,420 --> 00:51:50,130
an end to this nonsense.

933
00:51:51,390 --> 00:51:55,890
John C Dvorak: Let's hope he
can. Because we're not going to

934
00:51:56,339 --> 00:51:58,919
Adam Curry: know we're in fact
we're just stacking it up a

935
00:51:58,919 --> 00:52:02,789
little bit. You know, I've been
looking at evaluating Africa

936
00:52:02,789 --> 00:52:05,429
what's going on everyone's
visiting Africa. Everyone's in

937
00:52:05,429 --> 00:52:11,249
Africa and Africa nuts and and
now new share is the latest and

938
00:52:11,279 --> 00:52:14,129
who shows up a new Share? Well,
of course it's got to be a

939
00:52:14,129 --> 00:52:15,179
Blinken us Antony

940
00:52:15,180 --> 00:52:17,640
Unknown: Blinken is to be the
first US Secretary of State to

941
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,790
visit Niger amid concerns over
the health security and the

942
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:24,210
growing Russian influence. West
African country has become an

943
00:52:24,210 --> 00:52:27,420
increasingly important partner
for the West in the Sahel. There

944
00:52:27,420 --> 00:52:31,020
have been successive coos in
Mali and Burkina Faso and

945
00:52:31,020 --> 00:52:33,600
there's been the growing
influence of Russia's private

946
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,410
mercenary group.

947
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:37,020
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a
Wagner group. They're

948
00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:41,730
everywhere. The Wagner group,
what happened to Academy and Z

949
00:52:41,730 --> 00:52:45,630
and Blackwater are our guys. Are
they just all out of business?

950
00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:47,490
Or is it the same guys?

951
00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:50,640
John C Dvorak: I think there's
got to be some crosstalk right.

952
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,050
Where did Eric Prince go? I
mean, he's the key guy to figure

953
00:52:55,050 --> 00:52:57,420
out if you want to know what's
going on and no one's

954
00:52:57,420 --> 00:52:58,380
interviewing him.

955
00:52:58,410 --> 00:53:00,300
Adam Curry: I think he became a
venture capitalist. I don't know

956
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:05,700
what it became. Exactly. So what
is worse so what is going on in

957
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:11,700
these year why all the by the UN
troops have been in Mali?

958
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,460
They've been rotating in
rotating out the Dutch were

959
00:53:14,460 --> 00:53:18,750
there the Americans were there
the front what is going on? In

960
00:53:18,750 --> 00:53:22,740
Asia? What's happening? Oh,
well, France 24 will actually

961
00:53:22,740 --> 00:53:23,880
tell us that desert

962
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,820
Unknown: landscape in niches
Northern Ireland region, the

963
00:53:26,820 --> 00:53:29,550
list advanced countries home to
one of the world's largest

964
00:53:29,550 --> 00:53:33,690
Uranium reserves. The main
source of nuclear fuel, is one

965
00:53:33,690 --> 00:53:37,200
of the EU and France's largest
suppliers, and French nuclear

966
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,340
giant Aramco is looking again at
a potential site in the region

967
00:53:46,590 --> 00:53:54,900
of about 200,000 tons of uranium
for Aramco or Christmas bolt in

968
00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:59,820
2015. And we are relaunching the
project following several

969
00:53:59,820 --> 00:54:04,260
hydrogeological studies that
lead us to believe that the ISR

970
00:54:04,260 --> 00:54:07,710
method may be very interesting
for the exploitation of this

971
00:54:07,710 --> 00:54:11,550
deposit. This method involves
using chemicals to dissolve

972
00:54:11,550 --> 00:54:14,940
uranium from the rock that is
still in the ground and pumping

973
00:54:14,940 --> 00:54:19,170
it to the surface rather than
conventional mining so they have

974
00:54:19,170 --> 00:54:19,590
some kind of

975
00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:20,640
Adam Curry: new technology

976
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,390
John C Dvorak: oh my god I can
just imagine what that is is not

977
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:27,570
going to be at technology want
to be around it's going to ruin

978
00:54:27,630 --> 00:54:30,480
I don't even know I mean, I
could be dead wrong it could be

979
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,250
using saltwater but I doubt it.
Well, it's got to be like

980
00:54:35,250 --> 00:54:39,300
hydrofluoric acid or some damn
thing they're going to do and

981
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:41,400
it's going to poison the area.

982
00:54:42,210 --> 00:54:44,490
Adam Curry: So you share cares
Yeah,

983
00:54:44,490 --> 00:54:47,190
John C Dvorak: who cares the
share when present make and even

984
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:52,770
Adam Curry: though I don't have
any clips Turkey after you know

985
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,250
after they switch the earthquake
machine on Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

986
00:54:56,670 --> 00:54:59,280
You want to be a NATO you want
to be the guy stopping it? Oh,

987
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,430
yeah. Here's one earthquake,
which you don't hear anything

988
00:55:02,430 --> 00:55:04,530
about. It's overwrite that
earthquake might as well just

989
00:55:04,530 --> 00:55:08,370
not have happened. 40 50,000
people dead they say,

990
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:11,070
John C Dvorak: minimum,

991
00:55:11,250 --> 00:55:17,760
Adam Curry: Trump proven Poland
they will now start to start

992
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:23,310
ratifying Finland's NATO
application. Which I love this.

993
00:55:23,370 --> 00:55:26,850
So Finland who has quite a
border neighboring on Russia,

994
00:55:27,210 --> 00:55:30,780
they think it's a great idea.
Oh, yeah, let's be NATO now. I'm

995
00:55:30,780 --> 00:55:35,910
sure I had this one a second. I
understand. I can I'm sure I had

996
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:36,150
this.

997
00:55:36,180 --> 00:55:37,950
John C Dvorak: Well, they also
bitched about the fact that

998
00:55:37,950 --> 00:55:41,610
Sweden's not going in with them.
Yeah, I haven't I've of course

999
00:55:41,610 --> 00:55:44,910
had big hang up and nobody
really quite knows how to deal

1000
00:55:44,910 --> 00:55:48,480
with it, which is Hungary still
says no. But they said they're

1001
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,410
gonna say yes,

1002
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,610
Adam Curry: here's, here's
Yen's. Now this was a a two

1003
00:55:53,610 --> 00:55:58,260
minute clip, which I shortened
by 40 seconds just by taking out

1004
00:55:58,260 --> 00:55:59,190
the pauses.

1005
00:55:59,370 --> 00:56:02,520
Unknown: I welcome to this
decision by Turkey yet to move

1006
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,820
ahead. Turkey I'm sorry, Turkey.
With the ratification of

1007
00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:09,210
Finland's membership in NATO.
This was strengthened finance

1008
00:56:09,210 --> 00:56:12,930
security, it will strengthen
Sweden security, and it will

1009
00:56:12,930 --> 00:56:17,250
strengthen NATO. I hope that the
Turkish Grand National Assembly

1010
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,140
will vote to ratify as soon as
possible. At the NATO summit in

1011
00:56:22,140 --> 00:56:26,730
Madrid last year in all allies
made historic decision to invite

1012
00:56:26,730 --> 00:56:30,570
Finland and Sweden to join our
alliance. Since then, we have

1013
00:56:30,570 --> 00:56:34,200
seen the fastest ratification
process in NATO's modern history

1014
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,560
at the critical time for our
security. This will make our

1015
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,250
alliances stronger and safer.
Our recently listed trachea and

1016
00:56:41,250 --> 00:56:44,820
met with the president of Iran,
the President and I agreed to

1017
00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:48,960
convene a meeting of trachea,
Finland, Sweden, at NATO

1018
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,460
headquarters at that meeting
last week, all recognized that

1019
00:56:53,460 --> 00:56:57,120
considerable progress has been
made in implementing the

1020
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,360
trilateral memorandum signed in
Madrid, and that rapid

1021
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,270
notifications for Finland and
Sweden are in everyone's

1022
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:08,040
interest. The most important
thing is both Finland and Sweden

1023
00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:12,630
become full members of NATO
quickly, not whether why they

1024
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:17,400
joined at exactly the same time
last position to invite both

1025
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,520
Finland and Sweden has
fundamentally strengthen the

1026
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:25,050
relationship with NATO. As a
consequence, their security is

1027
00:57:25,050 --> 00:57:29,850
much enhanced. They're sitting
around NATO's table integrating

1028
00:57:29,970 --> 00:57:34,020
into our political and military
structures, exercising more with

1029
00:57:34,020 --> 00:57:37,560
allies, and both countries have
received bilateral security

1030
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:43,020
assurances from many NATO
countries, including the US, UK,

1031
00:57:43,110 --> 00:57:47,220
Germany and France. So it is
inconceivable that NATO would

1032
00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:51,030
not respond should either
Finland or Sweden come under

1033
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:55,380
attack their security matters.
Okay. I look forward to a rapid

1034
00:57:55,380 --> 00:57:58,890
conclusion of the accession
process and to welcoming both

1035
00:57:58,890 --> 00:58:03,690
Finland and Sweden to the NATO
family members as soon as

1036
00:58:03,690 --> 00:58:04,380
possible we

1037
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,320
Adam Curry: are family so you
think Hungary is going to buckle

1038
00:58:09,780 --> 00:58:12,540
John C Dvorak: Hungary says they
already did but I mean they say

1039
00:58:12,540 --> 00:58:14,760
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna
we're gonna sign out we just had

1040
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,060
to do this. They got some big
get some paperwork. And it was

1041
00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:20,550
supposed to be done by
Christmas. But the FedEx didn't

1042
00:58:20,550 --> 00:58:24,180
arrive at us. They're still
stalling. I think they're going

1043
00:58:24,180 --> 00:58:30,930
to continue to stall for a while
hoping this war ends and maybe I

1044
00:58:30,930 --> 00:58:33,630
think they're just going to
stall I mean, they're going to

1045
00:58:33,630 --> 00:58:36,750
have to Dave's already agreed to
say yes, they just haven't

1046
00:58:36,750 --> 00:58:40,200
severed they're dragging their
eyes dragging their heels.

1047
00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:41,700
They're Dre exactly

1048
00:58:42,540 --> 00:58:45,930
Adam Curry: meanwhile Be on the
lookout for the next the next

1049
00:58:46,830 --> 00:58:53,490
this is great. Meat kill net
kill net Russia's hacking

1050
00:58:53,490 --> 00:58:59,790
patriots plaguing Europe. Nice
alliteration political pro

1051
00:58:59,790 --> 00:59:03,960
Russian hackers hit countries
taking action against Russia for

1052
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,240
its war in Ukraine. Right

1053
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,490
John C Dvorak: away we should
stop you I want you to finish

1054
00:59:08,490 --> 00:59:11,730
that obviously but I which
people should always have in the

1055
00:59:11,730 --> 00:59:15,960
back of their mind that the
great hackers are in Ukraine.

1056
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:20,430
Yes. They're in Ukraine the
Russians is takes it back

1057
00:59:20,430 --> 00:59:25,080
they're back seat was never it's
probably three or four after the

1058
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:30,540
Iranians beside the point that
our tools the Buzet

1059
00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:37,050
Adam Curry: nine What is it
vault nine? That was rice. Um,

1060
00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:38,850
yeah. Which can be used to make
anything

1061
00:59:38,850 --> 00:59:41,430
John C Dvorak: look like Russia.
Yeah, looks like Russian says

1062
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:42,000
what to do.

1063
00:59:42,060 --> 00:59:45,720
Adam Curry: And ragtag group of
Russian activists is targeting

1064
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,510
European governments
infrastructure, even its prized

1065
00:59:48,510 --> 00:59:55,110
Eurovision Song Contest. I can't
wait for the song contest this

1066
00:59:55,110 --> 00:59:58,320
year. They're doing that with
cyber attacks and disinformation

1067
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,630
campaigns. Oh, yeah, they're
gonna they're In a determined

1068
01:00:00,630 --> 01:00:03,630
they're gonna hack the winner
when that'd be great we're gonna

1069
01:00:03,630 --> 01:00:06,570
be if they hack the voting of
the Eurovision Song Contest put

1070
01:00:06,570 --> 01:00:12,960
it in the red book please. I
think kill net kill net will be

1071
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,380
hacking the Eurovision song they
put political put this in here

1072
01:00:16,380 --> 01:00:22,410
for a reason in the first graph
of this whole article the pro

1073
01:00:22,410 --> 01:00:27,450
Kremlin hacker collective by the
name of kill net has launched a

1074
01:00:27,450 --> 01:00:31,890
barrage of this is inflammatory
a barrage of attacks on Western

1075
01:00:31,890 --> 01:00:34,770
government networks and critical
infrastructure this summer

1076
01:00:34,890 --> 01:00:39,600
loudly claiming victories on
social media channels and in

1077
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,620
Russian media and causing
headaches for Russia's

1078
01:00:43,650 --> 01:00:49,680
adversaries and security
authorities. Fancy Baron

1079
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:54,210
sandworms a new one sandworm is
now have you heard of sandworm

1080
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,790
John C Dvorak: sounds like a CIA
product?

1081
01:00:58,050 --> 01:01:01,950
Adam Curry: I'm gonna put that
as sandworm please. Well, I hope

1082
01:01:01,950 --> 01:01:05,040
that they attack the it's in the
UK this year the Eurovision Song

1083
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,840
Contest a proxy for Ukraine who
of course one last year.

1084
01:01:11,370 --> 01:01:12,360
John C Dvorak: What a
coincidence.

1085
01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:15,900
Adam Curry: Isn't that great?
Wow. I love that. I thought this

1086
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:23,490
is great. I love the kill net
kill net kill net. Okay. All

1087
01:01:23,490 --> 01:01:26,670
right. Let's talk about our
stupid president. I see a whole

1088
01:01:26,700 --> 01:01:29,190
you got a whole bunch of clips
about Biden and you've promised

1089
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:32,490
this you've teased this for two
shows in a row. I'm excited. I'm

1090
01:01:32,490 --> 01:01:33,690
excited to laughs

1091
01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:37,560
John C Dvorak: Okay, well first
of all, before we go to the

1092
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:42,270
clip, the clip blitz of Biden. I
do want to bring up a couple of

1093
01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:46,890
since it was St. Patrick's Day
yesterday or sorry, Friday. We

1094
01:01:46,890 --> 01:01:52,320
do have a couple of classic
Biden always says something

1095
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,930
about being Irish and St.
Patrick's Day I have to I have

1096
01:01:54,930 --> 01:02:00,060
to this year's 2023 teetotaller
clip I want to play hold on hold

1097
01:02:00,060 --> 01:02:00,240
on

1098
01:02:00,270 --> 01:02:01,470
Unknown: Ruth through through.

1099
01:02:03,660 --> 01:02:06,660
Adam Curry: Blues classic
classic clip Blitz.

1100
01:02:07,710 --> 01:02:10,440
John C Dvorak: Well, this is not
ready yet. Except this Blitz is

1101
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,230
gonna be Let's go 2023
teetotaller

1102
01:02:13,620 --> 01:02:14,670
Adam Curry: I got you okay,

1103
01:02:14,700 --> 01:02:17,040
Unknown: I'm the only Irishman
you ever met notice never had a

1104
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,630
drink so I'm okay. I'm really
not Irish. So

1105
01:02:23,310 --> 01:02:24,780
Adam Curry: where was this where
it wasn't?

1106
01:02:25,110 --> 01:02:27,450
John C Dvorak: It wasn't one of
these little cars. It was just a

1107
01:02:27,450 --> 01:02:31,590
recent little one. Meet and
Greet? Wasn't anything

1108
01:02:32,070 --> 01:02:34,890
Adam Curry: we saying? I'm the
only Irishman you'd never seen.

1109
01:02:34,980 --> 01:02:38,490
I've never had a drink. I'm not
even Irish. Okay, and people ha

1110
01:02:38,580 --> 01:02:39,360
You're so funny.

1111
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,260
John C Dvorak: One day we just
have a drunk or not drunk bit

1112
01:02:43,290 --> 01:02:48,150
based on that guy. And we did
that work now in 2020 I believe

1113
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:50,640
this is 2022 this is the clip
that everyone plays where it

1114
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:59,580
says I'm I'm Irish but I'm not
stupid. Which was the which was

1115
01:02:59,610 --> 01:03:03,390
an insult of course to the Irish
because Irish obviously stupid

1116
01:03:03,390 --> 01:03:06,690
and he's not. But the full clip
has

1117
01:03:06,690 --> 01:03:09,720
Adam Curry: never played what's
here's the short version first.

1118
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:10,650
Is that what I'm doing here?

1119
01:03:10,890 --> 01:03:14,040
John C Dvorak: No, there's only
one version and it's the 2022

1120
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,590
stupid and it's the whole at
four seconds. And it's got a

1121
01:03:16,590 --> 01:03:19,950
little tidbit at the end which
says to me Wait a minute, and

1122
01:03:19,950 --> 01:03:21,900
then it brings up another prop
problem.

1123
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,350
Unknown: I may be Irish but I'm
not stupid. I'm married Dominic

1124
01:03:25,350 --> 01:03:26,520
que kopas daughter.

1125
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:30,060
Adam Curry: Well, let me listen
again. I didn't hear that

1126
01:03:30,060 --> 01:03:30,900
properly in the listening.

1127
01:03:31,110 --> 01:03:34,290
Unknown: I may be Irish but I'm
not stupid. I'm married Dominic

1128
01:03:34,290 --> 01:03:35,460
que kopas daughter.

1129
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,910
Adam Curry: I married Dominic
Jia kopas daughter.

1130
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,170
John C Dvorak: That's Joe Biden.
his granddad is Dominic jihad,

1131
01:03:43,170 --> 01:03:47,160
not his daughter. But the
granddad was Dominic Gioconda.

1132
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:51,810
They changed their name to Jacob
does an Italian that Sicilian

1133
01:03:51,810 --> 01:03:54,600
family where she comes from and
I don't think that's why Jill

1134
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,150
Biden was going to get the money
then it turns out that money

1135
01:03:57,150 --> 01:03:59,190
went to 100. But you know, the
money we're talking about who

1136
01:03:59,190 --> 01:04:01,890
got to Who's the other person
that getting the money from

1137
01:04:01,890 --> 01:04:06,270
China and last show, and there
was a mysterious Biden involved

1138
01:04:06,270 --> 01:04:12,150
which turned out to be the the
widow of Hunter Biden, but we

1139
01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:15,180
always thought Joe Biden was the
head of the crime family and

1140
01:04:15,180 --> 01:04:17,100
diamond, the GIA COPPA family.

1141
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:21,750
Adam Curry: Well, just because
you know this No, just because

1142
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,290
she didn't get this money
doesn't mean she isn't still

1143
01:04:25,290 --> 01:04:29,250
ahead of the whole Biden crime
family. It's in her genes. It's

1144
01:04:29,250 --> 01:04:30,360
in her DNA.

1145
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:34,800
John C Dvorak: She's a Sicilian.
And I don't want to say that all

1146
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:35,640
Careful, careful,

1147
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,760
Adam Curry: careful, careful. We
love you mafia. We

1148
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,160
John C Dvorak: love you guys. We
love the Soprano's Jesse,

1149
01:04:42,180 --> 01:04:45,750
buzzkill Jr's wife is Sicilian.
And

1150
01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:47,910
Adam Curry: watch your back.

1151
01:04:48,090 --> 01:04:50,880
John C Dvorak: Watch your back
your back. I'm always careful

1152
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,500
around here. So

1153
01:04:52,650 --> 01:04:55,770
Adam Curry: wow, I had no idea
about this.

1154
01:04:56,130 --> 01:04:58,290
John C Dvorak: I didn't either
and when I heard this, and I

1155
01:04:58,290 --> 01:05:01,050
looked into it, because they
always clip that off, they

1156
01:05:01,110 --> 01:05:05,250
always clipped that off. Oh, and
it was like a gaff anyway

1157
01:05:05,250 --> 01:05:09,450
because that's the granddad's
name. They changed. They moved

1158
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,990
that they came over from Sicily
and they change their name to

1159
01:05:12,990 --> 01:05:15,210
Jacob. And

1160
01:05:16,470 --> 01:05:19,080
Adam Curry: came to me me
doesn't have a horse does she?

1161
01:05:21,090 --> 01:05:24,150
John C Dvorak: Yeah, me, me, me
me is actual Smith from the

1162
01:05:24,750 --> 01:05:26,760
Adam Curry: pilgrim, Alias Smith
and Jones.

1163
01:05:28,260 --> 01:05:30,990
John C Dvorak: I don't know
about that. So Biden goes on.

1164
01:05:32,550 --> 01:05:35,460
Adam Curry: Even though it's
kind of it's kind of weird. I

1165
01:05:35,460 --> 01:05:36,600
think it deserves a clip of

1166
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,420
John C Dvorak: Thanks, David.
That was not expected.

1167
01:05:42,450 --> 01:05:44,310
Adam Curry: But it's certainly
deserved. Because that was

1168
01:05:44,310 --> 01:05:46,320
amazing. I did not know this.

1169
01:05:46,650 --> 01:05:48,810
John C Dvorak: I didn't know
know it either. In fact, I did

1170
01:05:48,930 --> 01:05:52,290
it. It kind of bugged me that
they've actually kept a

1171
01:05:52,290 --> 01:05:57,870
suppressed chair. So here we go.
All right. So Biden goes on

1172
01:05:57,870 --> 01:06:03,000
Comedy Central with this guy, a
Kalpen. He's an Indian. This is

1173
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:03,090
the

1174
01:06:03,090 --> 01:06:05,400
Adam Curry: daily show where the
Daily Show?

1175
01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:09,090
John C Dvorak: Yep, yep. Kalpen
is actually should be called

1176
01:06:09,090 --> 01:06:14,580
Calvin. Calvin Modi. He's really
He's an Indian American. Okay.

1177
01:06:16,050 --> 01:06:20,610
And he is gay. Outwardly gay.
And he makes a big fuss about

1178
01:06:20,610 --> 01:06:25,830
it. Outwardly gay. Well,
actually, no, I take it. It's

1179
01:06:25,830 --> 01:06:29,460
just gays not outwardly gay
would be Tommy's flamboyant.

1180
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,900
Adam Curry: flamboyant. He's
he's out. I don't think he's

1181
01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:35,220
out. He's openly gay.

1182
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,790
John C Dvorak: He's out. That's
what I meant out gay. Not

1183
01:06:38,790 --> 01:06:43,380
outwardly. Okay. Good. Thank
you. Okay. So there's a whole

1184
01:06:43,380 --> 01:06:47,670
series of short. Here's a whole
bunch of short clips that were

1185
01:06:47,820 --> 01:06:50,280
this was the worst interview
I've ever seen. Or

1186
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,590
Adam Curry: you mean the best
really?

1187
01:06:55,770 --> 01:06:58,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I guess I
do that. So here we go this out.

1188
01:06:58,980 --> 01:07:01,710
Here's the premise. This is clip
one, the premise of the listen

1189
01:07:01,710 --> 01:07:04,950
to this premise. And you can see
why, why this is already going

1190
01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:05,490
to be bad.

1191
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,250
Unknown: We talked about our
divided country, and how young

1192
01:07:08,250 --> 01:07:12,210
people's advocacy can affect
policy on climate drilling and

1193
01:07:12,210 --> 01:07:12,930
human rights,

1194
01:07:13,500 --> 01:07:18,600
Adam Curry: climate drilling,
and human rights, which is a

1195
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,520
trifecta I had never considered,

1196
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,830
John C Dvorak: I've never
considered either. And his whole

1197
01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:27,030
concern is about he's a climate
change nut ball. So everything's

1198
01:07:27,030 --> 01:07:31,560
Oh, claim me, we're all gonna
die. So here we go. This is a

1199
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,230
little bit and I'm going to play
clip two, this is a short 14

1200
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:38,940
seconds, which indicates to me
the host, this guy, cow. This

1201
01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:40,110
guy's bigotry.

1202
01:07:42,660 --> 01:07:46,320
Unknown: And I remember just
four years of of policy and

1203
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,580
vitriol under Trump, and now
things feel more divided. So I,

1204
01:07:50,940 --> 01:07:55,650
I was curious how you feel that
we can stay hopeful? And how can

1205
01:07:55,650 --> 01:07:57,240
we get the country to unify

1206
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,570
John C Dvorak: policy and
vitriol?

1207
01:08:01,140 --> 01:08:02,100
Adam Curry: That's interesting.

1208
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,140
John C Dvorak: So here we go.
Here it goes. We go with Biden.

1209
01:08:07,140 --> 01:08:10,350
And right away we go to the old
tropes. And we're going to start

1210
01:08:10,350 --> 01:08:12,090
off with trope number one and
clip three.

1211
01:08:12,210 --> 01:08:13,950
Unknown: The truth of the matter
is has never been more

1212
01:08:13,950 --> 01:08:18,660
optimistic in my entire life.
But no, no, I mean, now, I tell

1213
01:08:18,660 --> 01:08:22,110
you what, look, if you think
about it, the reason I had not

1214
01:08:22,140 --> 01:08:23,100
argued my words.

1215
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:27,510
John C Dvorak: I was gonna clip
that separately. I'll tell you

1216
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:30,990
why. Think about it. Look, I
mean, it's pretty jams all these

1217
01:08:30,990 --> 01:08:33,630
trode things right into one
little package. I think it's

1218
01:08:33,630 --> 01:08:34,500
just dynamite.

1219
01:08:34,889 --> 01:08:36,149
Unknown: I tell you what, look,
if you think

1220
01:08:36,150 --> 01:08:38,880
Adam Curry: about it, I'll tell
you what, I tell you what, look,

1221
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,610
if you think about it, we can we
can do this ourselves. I'll tell

1222
01:08:41,610 --> 01:08:42,810
you what, think about it. Look,

1223
01:08:42,839 --> 01:08:48,389
Unknown: I mean, now, if you
think about it, the reason I had

1224
01:08:48,389 --> 01:08:51,629
not I give my words Biden I
hadn't planned on running again.

1225
01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:58,679
I had lost my son Beau. It was a
tough, tough time, and I wasn't

1226
01:08:58,679 --> 01:09:03,209
gonna run it all for real. And
then remember what happened in

1227
01:09:03,209 --> 01:09:06,629
Charlottesville. Then President
Trump said there were very fine

1228
01:09:06,629 --> 01:09:10,229
people on both sides. And I give
my word that's what I said. I'm

1229
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:11,039
gonna do this.

1230
01:09:11,070 --> 01:09:14,130
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was his
whole reason for running. Was

1231
01:09:14,130 --> 01:09:14,910
this lie?

1232
01:09:18,180 --> 01:09:20,400
John C Dvorak: Okay, so he's
gonna keep with this. So that's

1233
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,940
never going away. No, no, thanks
to Scott Adams trying.

1234
01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:28,320
Adam Curry: Where? Where's Scott
Adams? Is he finally gone and

1235
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:28,740
done.

1236
01:09:29,940 --> 01:09:31,530
John C Dvorak: He's still on
YouTube. Oh, okay.

1237
01:09:31,530 --> 01:09:32,940
Adam Curry: Well, as long as
you're still on YouTube, He's

1238
01:09:32,940 --> 01:09:36,150
okay. He's safe. But, you know,
it's like people are Hey, man,

1239
01:09:36,180 --> 01:09:38,970
check out Gilbert. He's doing
value for value. I'm like, No, I

1240
01:09:38,970 --> 01:09:41,880
have to sign up for something
that's not value for value.

1241
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,540
John C Dvorak: Not when there's
a firewall No, that's not value

1242
01:09:45,540 --> 01:09:48,480
for value. That's the debt
that's that should mention we've

1243
01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:50,400
got our books in for the too
many eggs.

1244
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:54,390
Adam Curry: The printer has done

1245
01:09:55,740 --> 01:09:57,360
John C Dvorak: too many
eggs.com. Go check it out and

1246
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,970
get just go get a free copy that
there's no firewall

1247
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,190
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, that's the
way it should be donate.

1248
01:10:02,190 --> 01:10:04,290
John C Dvorak: What would a
firewall up? That is not value

1249
01:10:04,290 --> 01:10:08,760
for value? It's called a
firewall. All right, here we go.

1250
01:10:09,420 --> 01:10:10,830
Is Biden on climate?

1251
01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:13,350
Unknown: I never would have
imagined 12 years ago that

1252
01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:19,140
something as sweeping on climate
as the inflation Reduction Act,

1253
01:10:19,770 --> 01:10:24,360
would have happened. So Mike, my
question really, and I was

1254
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,680
watching all of this unfold is
who or what created the

1255
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,500
political space for you to take
that kind of action?

1256
01:10:31,980 --> 01:10:37,290
Young people, young people,
generation, that generation

1257
01:10:37,290 --> 01:10:41,520
between 18 and 35. Now, they're
the ones that created the space.

1258
01:10:41,730 --> 01:10:44,730
They had enough of it. And
enough of it. I mean, they

1259
01:10:44,730 --> 01:10:47,970
showed up in the 2020. Election,
they showed up in the 2022

1260
01:10:47,970 --> 01:10:52,350
election, and we passed the
largest environmental plan, and

1261
01:10:52,350 --> 01:10:54,540
all of history over $360 billion

1262
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,120
John C Dvorak: inflation
Reduction Act, has anybody

1263
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,460
noticed there's something wrong
with this picture?

1264
01:11:02,490 --> 01:11:04,290
Adam Curry: Could it be the
inflation problem?

1265
01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:07,980
John C Dvorak: There's like he
says, Oh, you did the biggest

1266
01:11:07,980 --> 01:11:12,510
climate thing you've anyone's
ever done you in the inflation

1267
01:11:12,510 --> 01:11:15,030
rates? What's inflation got to
do with this?

1268
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:17,010
Adam Curry: Well, that's how
they hoodwinked everybody into

1269
01:11:17,010 --> 01:11:23,760
voting for the snow shit. Yeah,
how's that? How's that? trend

1270
01:11:23,790 --> 01:11:26,460
Trend, transitory inflation
working everybody?

1271
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:29,730
John C Dvorak: Onward to clip
five

1272
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:34,440
Unknown: why the first meeting I
had with the so called g7, they

1273
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:37,800
want to talk about what was my
initiative on energy on dealing

1274
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:42,390
with moving toward, for example,
I called all them automakers and

1275
01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:45,210
truck makers. And I asked him to
come to the South Lawn first

1276
01:11:45,210 --> 01:11:50,070
year, and try to talk him into
doing something more than going

1277
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:55,950
electric. And within five weeks,
all of them agreed that we're

1278
01:11:55,950 --> 01:12:01,680
going to go electric 50% by
2030. And by 2050, all electric.

1279
01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:07,650
John C Dvorak: Now he starts off
by, first of all, he says the so

1280
01:12:07,650 --> 01:12:09,330
called g7.

1281
01:12:11,700 --> 01:12:14,790
Unknown: That again, why the
first meeting I had with the so

1282
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:18,990
called g7 Want to talk about
what was my initiative on

1283
01:12:18,990 --> 01:12:19,590
energy?

1284
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,550
John C Dvorak: They didn't know,
didn't they? They didn't I guess

1285
01:12:23,550 --> 01:12:24,900
I don't know what

1286
01:12:25,980 --> 01:12:28,140
Adam Curry: think what he's
okay. Here's the problem. His

1287
01:12:28,140 --> 01:12:32,190
initiative on energy was the
inflation Reduction Act. And the

1288
01:12:32,190 --> 01:12:36,660
so called g7 includes the so
called EU who were so called

1289
01:12:36,660 --> 01:12:40,470
very pissed off, that all of the
subsidies, this is why clean

1290
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:44,010
Ursula went to Washington, that
all the subsidies were only for

1291
01:12:44,010 --> 01:12:47,880
us products, and that and that
they basically screwed the so

1292
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:52,560
called g7 partners, by not
giving any of our money, our

1293
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,940
printed money to them for their
bullcrap initiatives. That's why

1294
01:12:56,940 --> 01:12:59,340
he's saying that because they
got all bent out of shape, and

1295
01:12:59,340 --> 01:13:02,520
still not over I mean, clean.
Ursula came in and got some

1296
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,860
assurances, but we'll have to
see.

1297
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:07,920
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's

1298
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,130
Adam Curry: what they did get
some inflation over there. So

1299
01:13:11,130 --> 01:13:13,890
congratulations, you got a part
of our inflation Reduction Act,

1300
01:13:13,890 --> 01:13:15,210
everybody good work.

1301
01:13:16,230 --> 01:13:19,500
Unknown: That six, you're also
responsible for reviewing

1302
01:13:19,500 --> 01:13:22,920
drilling and oil production?
Yes. What would you say to those

1303
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,040
young people who want you to
continue to be their champion,

1304
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,920
but might not think that you're
going far enough or fast enough

1305
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:29,550
on climate?

1306
01:13:30,179 --> 01:13:33,269
Well, first of all, we're going
to fashion anyone's ever gone,

1307
01:13:33,299 --> 01:13:37,019
we're going to need fossil fuels
for at least the next 10 years.

1308
01:13:37,229 --> 01:13:41,369
It's not like tomorrow, we can
turn it all off. Number one. And

1309
01:13:41,369 --> 01:13:44,609
so we're going to need fossil
fuel. But we have to do is we

1310
01:13:44,609 --> 01:13:48,629
have to I have I've said no more
drilling off our ocean, I mean,

1311
01:13:48,779 --> 01:13:51,989
a whole range, but there still
has to be, there has to be the

1312
01:13:51,989 --> 01:13:56,429
ability to generate some energy.
But we can get rid of coal much

1313
01:13:56,429 --> 01:14:00,119
more rapidly. And and by the
way, for example, I was up in

1314
01:14:01,469 --> 01:14:05,969
Massachusetts, the largest coal
producing electric facilities in

1315
01:14:05,969 --> 01:14:09,089
the nation. Well, guess what? We
hooked it up to wind technology.

1316
01:14:09,929 --> 01:14:15,899
And so now and it's cheaper, we
can do solar we can do when why

1317
01:14:15,899 --> 01:14:18,299
cheaply than we can do fossil
fuel.

1318
01:14:19,230 --> 01:14:21,720
Adam Curry: First of all, it's
when technology Okay, I want you

1319
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:26,460
to know, we figured out when
technology and it's cheaper.

1320
01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:29,520
John C Dvorak: Since when is it
cheaper?

1321
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,210
Adam Curry: Well, since the
inflation Reduction Act paid for

1322
01:14:33,210 --> 01:14:33,930
it, of course.

1323
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:41,100
John C Dvorak: So that's a lie.
Yeah. Pretty blatant. Wow. But

1324
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:46,470
let's continue because this
guy's all in. So let's go. The

1325
01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:47,280
next was, I guess.

1326
01:14:48,059 --> 01:14:51,629
Unknown: There is Magga
Republican portion of the party.

1327
01:14:51,629 --> 01:14:54,779
It makes up about a third of the
Republican Party. But there's a

1328
01:14:54,779 --> 01:14:57,629
lot of people in the Republican
Party who are traditional

1329
01:14:58,049 --> 01:15:00,839
Republican, conservative
Republicans. so that you can

1330
01:15:00,839 --> 01:15:06,959
deal with, but you know, these,
you know, the gentlewoman from

1331
01:15:07,079 --> 01:15:10,259
the state of Georgia and the
mountains up there and others

1332
01:15:10,649 --> 01:15:12,719
gates and anyway

1333
01:15:12,750 --> 01:15:15,570
that's very diplomatic. I would
have used different language but

1334
01:15:15,570 --> 01:15:16,200
no but

1335
01:15:18,090 --> 01:15:20,820
Adam Curry: wow, wait a minute,
wait a minute. What exactly went

1336
01:15:20,820 --> 01:15:21,450
down there?

1337
01:15:23,970 --> 01:15:26,070
John C Dvorak: Whatever it was,
it was diplomatic. He would use

1338
01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:28,440
different language you would
give it to him.

1339
01:15:29,370 --> 01:15:32,010
Adam Curry: This of course was
now this interview happened a

1340
01:15:32,010 --> 01:15:32,520
week ago, I

1341
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,310
John C Dvorak: think right.
Yeah, it was just before the

1342
01:15:35,370 --> 01:15:35,700
Yeah,

1343
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,090
Adam Curry: it was just before
the willow project got approved.

1344
01:15:40,050 --> 01:15:40,440
Yes, it

1345
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:41,430
John C Dvorak: was pretty sure

1346
01:15:41,490 --> 01:15:43,200
Adam Curry: up in Alaska, so
that's why he was already

1347
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,420
hegemonic. We got it. We got to
do a little bit of drilling. And

1348
01:15:45,420 --> 01:15:49,200
when I got Yeah, I got to
satisfy one of my biggest donors

1349
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,210
up there. You know, I was like,
as we got to do a little bit of

1350
01:15:51,210 --> 01:15:53,580
a little bit of drilling just a
little bit just just so you

1351
01:15:53,580 --> 01:15:56,520
know, it's a little bit there's
gonna be and by the way, where's

1352
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,460
all the hydrogen talk? Because
we know that it's going to

1353
01:15:59,460 --> 01:16:03,510
hydrogen This is beyond him. No,
okay. Right. Got it. Because

1354
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:06,150
he's still building the charging
stations. He's

1355
01:16:06,150 --> 01:16:08,580
John C Dvorak: the charging
stations and windmills,

1356
01:16:09,150 --> 01:16:11,670
Adam Curry: which is when
technology John, when

1357
01:16:11,670 --> 01:16:16,020
technology, please don't just
call it a windmill. The Dutch s

1358
01:16:16,020 --> 01:16:23,340
is Ventana loci tilting at wind
technology. There you go. All

1359
01:16:23,340 --> 01:16:24,540
right. Eight.

1360
01:16:25,170 --> 01:16:29,280
Unknown: I think so. My focus is
just stay focused.

1361
01:16:35,610 --> 01:16:41,310
Adam Curry: Stay focused, man.
Oh, man, your president of the

1362
01:16:41,310 --> 01:16:42,540
United States ladies and
gentlemen.

1363
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:46,380
Unknown: Wow, that's great.

1364
01:16:46,410 --> 01:16:48,060
John C Dvorak: That's actually
my favorite clip.

1365
01:16:48,990 --> 01:16:51,360
Adam Curry: In fact, but then I
hope you just made that an ISO.

1366
01:16:51,510 --> 01:16:52,950
That's just been ISO for the

1367
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:55,980
John C Dvorak: i gabbeh Dare as
the ISO if you want to use an

1368
01:16:55,980 --> 01:17:00,030
ISO. Yeah, you maybe save it?
Yes. Save it. No, save, save.

1369
01:17:00,390 --> 01:17:03,210
Adam Curry: It'll be my name is
my ISO. No, I claimed it.

1370
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,950
John C Dvorak: Okay. Now, here's
the here's the guy. This guy.

1371
01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:11,370
He's not only gay, but he's very
vain.

1372
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:14,700
Adam Curry: Hold on. I'm sorry.
I just got to hear it one more

1373
01:17:14,700 --> 01:17:14,970
time.

1374
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,150
Unknown: My focus is just stay
focused.

1375
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:22,170
That's great.

1376
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,990
John C Dvorak: That's that's
most people pulled back the the

1377
01:17:24,990 --> 01:17:26,790
clip of it. No kidding.

1378
01:17:26,820 --> 01:17:27,570
Adam Curry: No kidding.

1379
01:17:28,110 --> 01:17:32,160
John C Dvorak: So the guy the
vein guy called Calvin, Calvin

1380
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:36,930
Modi. He has let us know that
he's gay. And then he's got a

1381
01:17:36,930 --> 01:17:40,320
list you know, he's gonna ask a
question but he decides to talk

1382
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,160
about himself a little bit here
in clip nine and it's like an

1383
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,180
eye roller.

1384
01:17:45,330 --> 01:17:47,430
Unknown: I wanted to I wanted to
ask you a slightly different

1385
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:51,690
question. So my partner Josh and
I have been engaged for the last

1386
01:17:51,690 --> 01:17:54,450
five years which really only
means that every auntie and

1387
01:17:54,450 --> 01:17:55,710
uncle that I have Hold on

1388
01:17:55,710 --> 01:17:59,190
Adam Curry: a second five years
what's wrong with you? What's

1389
01:17:59,190 --> 01:18:02,070
wrong with him? Five years is
too long to be engaged. I'm

1390
01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:05,370
sorry. I don't care what
relationship you have. Your this

1391
01:18:05,370 --> 01:18:07,140
is not going to work out five
years too long.

1392
01:18:07,170 --> 01:18:09,630
Unknown: My partner Josh and I
have been engaged for the last

1393
01:18:09,630 --> 01:18:12,360
five years which really only
means that every auntie and

1394
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,150
uncle that I have is beyond
disappointed that there hasn't

1395
01:18:15,150 --> 01:18:18,300
been a wedding yet. But But
Cardi B is going to marry us

1396
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:20,640
apparently officiate our
wedding, which would which would

1397
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,340
be nice. But my my question for
you. This President is

1398
01:18:23,969 --> 01:18:29,219
Adam Curry: Oh my god. Cardi B
is going to officiate our

1399
01:18:29,219 --> 01:18:32,729
wedding, which apparently we
should be nice because she said

1400
01:18:32,729 --> 01:18:33,719
so on Insta

1401
01:18:36,540 --> 01:18:38,580
John C Dvorak: is that pathetic?
Or what?

1402
01:18:39,540 --> 01:18:41,100
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that
really is.

1403
01:18:41,850 --> 01:18:44,760
John C Dvorak: Is is it an
interview with the President of

1404
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,860
the United States? Well,

1405
01:18:46,890 --> 01:18:49,560
Adam Curry: considering
considering his level of

1406
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:51,840
cognizance

1407
01:18:53,550 --> 01:18:57,750
John C Dvorak: ended up yes. But
still, yeah, that was the nerve.

1408
01:18:57,780 --> 01:19:02,010
I mean, to start talking about
yourself and your buddy jaw, or

1409
01:19:02,010 --> 01:19:07,650
your your fiance. Aw, Cardi B.
And so I thought that was the

1410
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,920
Adam Curry: gross and really are
your aunties and uncles in

1411
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,370
India, they're really
disappointed about the wedding.

1412
01:19:15,660 --> 01:19:18,390
I don't know that. I don't know
too much about Indian culture.

1413
01:19:20,010 --> 01:19:23,040
But you gotta wonder if that's
the only problem they have. I

1414
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,560
think we're pretty pretty okay.
In America with this. I'm not

1415
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,470
sure how cool India is with
that. Do we know actually,

1416
01:19:28,770 --> 01:19:31,500
John C Dvorak: NACA? Yeah. I
felt the same way when he said

1417
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:32,010
that I'd like

1418
01:19:32,730 --> 01:19:36,210
Adam Curry: we have Indian
listeners. We have Brahmins. We

1419
01:19:36,210 --> 01:19:39,030
have Brahmins. We'd like to know
what what's the jam mostly

1420
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:42,780
Brahmins? Actually, I'll tell
you like in Jamaica. This is not

1421
01:19:42,780 --> 01:19:47,190
acceptable. Homosexuality is a
big problem here in Jamaica.

1422
01:19:47,190 --> 01:19:51,510
They do not like it historically
that just that like No, no, no.

1423
01:19:52,410 --> 01:19:55,680
So not the Jamaican India the
same but I'm curious now.

1424
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,490
John C Dvorak: These Well, I
think your curiosity is well

1425
01:19:59,490 --> 01:20:02,370
founded. Let's go to the last as
the last clip and it's like,

1426
01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:05,010
this was titled BS galore.

1427
01:20:05,070 --> 01:20:09,060
Unknown: You codified support
for same sex marriage and

1428
01:20:09,060 --> 01:20:13,530
interracial marriages like, like
ours. I'm curious what your

1429
01:20:13,530 --> 01:20:19,050
evolution was like on marriage
equality and what the government

1430
01:20:19,050 --> 01:20:23,820
might be able to do to protect
LGBTQ Americans, especially

1431
01:20:23,850 --> 01:20:27,750
trans kids who are dealing with
all these regressive state laws

1432
01:20:27,750 --> 01:20:28,950
that are popping up right now.

1433
01:20:29,010 --> 01:20:33,600
I can remember exactly where my
epiphany was okay, I hadn't

1434
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:37,320
thought much about it. And I was
a, I was a senior in high

1435
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:41,400
school. And my dad was dropped
me off. I remember about to get

1436
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,640
out of the car and I looked to
my right. And two well dressed

1437
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,180
men in suits, kissed each other.
mean they give each other a

1438
01:20:48,180 --> 01:20:51,090
kiss. And then one went looked
like he was heading to the

1439
01:20:51,090 --> 01:20:53,790
DuPont building one look like he
headed to the Hercules

1440
01:20:53,790 --> 01:20:57,000
Corporation building. And I
never forgot to turn look to my

1441
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:01,980
dad. He said, Joey, it's simple.
They love each other. It's

1442
01:21:01,980 --> 01:21:05,730
simple. No, I'm not joking. It's
simple. They love each other.

1443
01:21:05,820 --> 01:21:12,330
And it's never been. It's never
been. It's just that simple. It

1444
01:21:12,330 --> 01:21:17,100
doesn't matter whether it's
whether same sex or heterosexual

1445
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:21,150
couple, you should be able to be
married. What is the problem?

1446
01:21:23,010 --> 01:21:30,930
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. Okay. So I
remember exactly how this went

1447
01:21:30,930 --> 01:21:36,360
down. His because, you know,
Obama was supposed to be the Big

1448
01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:41,100
Gay uniter during his
administration, and if you

1449
01:21:41,100 --> 01:21:46,680
recall, it was oh, Biden. who
usurped the president and said,

1450
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,220
you know, yeah, we're pretty
cool with gay marriage. It's all

1451
01:21:50,220 --> 01:21:52,140
good. And that was supposed to
be Obama's. Do you remember

1452
01:21:52,140 --> 01:21:52,440
that?

1453
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:55,470
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. And
that was that, which is

1454
01:21:55,470 --> 01:21:59,790
interesting, because before
that, Obama, Joe Biden was the

1455
01:21:59,790 --> 01:22:04,050
most anti gay marriage guy. So
we already got the law. Here it

1456
01:22:04,050 --> 01:22:06,030
is. So they can always have a
union. They don't have to get

1457
01:22:06,030 --> 01:22:08,640
married. He went on. Right,
right, right. And by the way,

1458
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,400
those two buildings he described
were the two guys who just kiss

1459
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:15,150
was going to go into our seven
miles apart. Somebody pointed

1460
01:22:15,150 --> 01:22:18,360
this out that the DuPont bill is
nowhere near as high school

1461
01:22:18,780 --> 01:22:21,480
where he's got dropped off. So
the whole story is bogus. He

1462
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:24,840
made it up, which is why I said
I'm not joking, which I've

1463
01:22:25,290 --> 01:22:31,890
identified previously as a tell,
for out and out lie. And this

1464
01:22:31,890 --> 01:22:34,800
story is a crock of shit. And
he's ended the other guys

1465
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:35,790
lapping it up.

1466
01:22:38,460 --> 01:22:43,680
Adam Curry: Wow. I gotta say
something about this, because

1467
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,020
actually, the keeper and I were
talking about this this morning.

1468
01:22:46,470 --> 01:22:51,930
And it starts. So it started
with pronouns, which I'm

1469
01:22:51,930 --> 01:22:56,040
against, because pronouns, the
only reason for pronouns is to

1470
01:22:56,040 --> 01:23:02,310
disrupt the parent child
relationship. So that your child

1471
01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:08,070
can say to you, Mom, Dad, it's
them. It's they, which is is

1472
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:14,460
fun, and that to be a cultural
thing, I think is fundamentally

1473
01:23:14,460 --> 01:23:19,260
a bad idea. But that's where it
started. And everyone's like,

1474
01:23:19,290 --> 01:23:21,660
Oh, you know what, whatever, you
know, what do you whatever you

1475
01:23:21,660 --> 01:23:25,560
want your pronoun to be, by, no
one uses a pronoun to the

1476
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,610
person's face, who has a
pronoun, you never say, hey, how

1477
01:23:29,610 --> 01:23:36,120
he doing? Now you never say
that. And now, we have

1478
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:39,450
lieutenant governors of us at
North Dakota, saying the

1479
01:23:39,450 --> 01:23:44,190
following and I quote, When our
children tell us who they are,

1480
01:23:44,220 --> 01:23:48,240
it is our job as grownups to
listen and to believe them.

1481
01:23:48,450 --> 01:23:51,210
That's what it means to be a
good parent. And that's where

1482
01:23:51,210 --> 01:23:56,850
all these these laws are coming
from, which is made call me old

1483
01:23:56,850 --> 01:24:06,300
fashioned. But no, no children
aren't moronic. Indian, probably

1484
01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:09,780
until they're 30. But okay. You
can send them off to war when

1485
01:24:09,780 --> 01:24:12,840
they're 18. So that's kind of a
cultural thing we've decided is

1486
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:19,470
okay. Which I also don't like.
But, but, you know, John, do you

1487
01:24:19,470 --> 01:24:25,710
remember in 2000, I'm gonna say
11. Maybe we identify, I

1488
01:24:25,710 --> 01:24:29,550
remember very distinctly saying,
Hey, what is this bullying law

1489
01:24:29,550 --> 01:24:32,910
stuff? What happened to stick it
was in the evening laws, it was

1490
01:24:32,910 --> 01:24:36,390
bullying at school and at that
point, and this is how fast it

1491
01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:38,580
went. We were saying what
happened to sticks and stones

1492
01:24:38,580 --> 01:24:41,160
will break my bones but names
will never hurt me. And you

1493
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,730
know, stand up to the bully. And
then we got Oh bullies at

1494
01:24:44,730 --> 01:24:47,100
school, we can't be bullied at
school. And then we got bullying

1495
01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:50,790
laws, which brought in hate
speech laws. And then we got the

1496
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:55,830
pronouns. I mean, the frogs are
cooking. When our children tell

1497
01:24:55,830 --> 01:25:04,680
us who they are, I'm a fireman.
Oh my goodness. And please

1498
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:05,790
respond to ice kill

1499
01:25:05,790 --> 01:25:08,490
John C Dvorak: Jr. When he was a
little kid was a robot for at

1500
01:25:08,490 --> 01:25:12,810
least a year. What am I supposed
to do?

1501
01:25:14,670 --> 01:25:16,170
Adam Curry: What did you do? Did
you believe him?

1502
01:25:16,590 --> 01:25:18,240
John C Dvorak: I know you played
two or three play three

1503
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,640
characters in it for life. I
mean nobody in the family can

1504
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,000
remember the third one. But he
played the robot he'd be a robot

1505
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,180
for a while or you'd be jock,
strong waiter.

1506
01:25:29,730 --> 01:25:31,560
Adam Curry: Not Jacques
Cousteau. You'd be shocked the

1507
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:32,100
waiter.

1508
01:25:32,490 --> 01:25:34,920
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Jackie Do
you have a towel around his over

1509
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:39,600
his arm and he go they bring us
glasses of wine or whatever we

1510
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:44,400
wanted. This lasted for about
six months. Hey,

1511
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,710
Adam Curry: shocked, shocked go
made me some craps.

1512
01:25:49,020 --> 01:25:50,580
John C Dvorak: But it's like,
okay.

1513
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:53,670
Adam Curry: Oh, wow.

1514
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:56,610
John C Dvorak: I remember when I
was a little kid I played with

1515
01:25:56,610 --> 01:26:00,060
dolls I play I like dolls they
were fun to play with. And then

1516
01:26:00,150 --> 01:26:03,030
I didn't want to have my dick
cut off because of it.

1517
01:26:03,330 --> 01:26:07,740
Adam Curry: Okay, okay, calm
down, John. Calm down. Easy,

1518
01:26:07,740 --> 01:26:12,420
does it. Yeah, gender dysphoria
is a thing that really exists.

1519
01:26:12,420 --> 01:26:14,550
But it's very, very small
percentage of people. It's

1520
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:19,140
John C Dvorak: very rare and
it's not to be promoted. Until

1521
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,250
people got to go through their
process of having their their

1522
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:27,630
actual growth hormones and
everything now go to fruition.

1523
01:26:27,630 --> 01:26:30,780
They can't just stop in the
middle of everything and see the

1524
01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:36,120
dicking around with you know,
some idea. When, but that's

1525
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:40,080
fine. I mean, I that's a
completely opposite view of

1526
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,230
every liberal in the Bay Area.
They think no, no, you need a

1527
01:26:43,230 --> 01:26:47,310
kitchen to determine everything
is like like you said, a moronic

1528
01:26:47,310 --> 01:26:51,510
kid, they should be given the
right to vote according to a few

1529
01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:54,630
people. Because they they vote
for climate.

1530
01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:57,900
Adam Curry: Now when when busca
Jr. was shocked, did you tip

1531
01:26:57,900 --> 01:26:58,140
him?

1532
01:27:00,510 --> 01:27:03,780
John C Dvorak: No, that would
have probably encouraged. I

1533
01:27:03,780 --> 01:27:06,330
still trying to remember what
the third character was he liked

1534
01:27:06,330 --> 01:27:06,870
to play.

1535
01:27:07,230 --> 01:27:09,870
Adam Curry: I think that's
great. I mean, Christina was a

1536
01:27:09,870 --> 01:27:13,950
Power Ranger. I remember that
you and she was very serious

1537
01:27:13,950 --> 01:27:15,300
about the Power Ranger deal.

1538
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:18,150
John C Dvorak: I think when I
was a kid, I was a cowboy.

1539
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:21,870
Because we me and another kid
were always dressed up as it was

1540
01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:27,060
always Hopalong Cassidy and Roy
Rogers. Yeah, sure. And we had

1541
01:27:27,060 --> 01:27:30,660
the guns and the holsters and we
shoot at each other constantly.

1542
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,610
Nowadays, I don't know you get
thrown into a reeducation camp

1543
01:27:35,610 --> 01:27:37,080
if you did anything like that.

1544
01:27:38,610 --> 01:27:42,630
Adam Curry: It was so weird. We
had dinner last night. And so

1545
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,110
probably the guy who's been here
the longest over over 30 years.

1546
01:27:46,110 --> 01:27:51,810
Clearly. He comes up as well,
Mr. Curry. Because that word is

1547
01:27:51,810 --> 01:27:55,350
out. Like cutting back. I was
MTV guy back then. And now it's

1548
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:59,790
like he was that guy was coming
to roost. They all said welcome

1549
01:27:59,790 --> 01:28:03,840
home. And so we're just chatting
was, I don't know how it came

1550
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:08,490
up. But he said, you know, oh,
and how it came up? He was he

1551
01:28:08,490 --> 01:28:11,700
said something about weed is
Jamaica after all.

1552
01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:15,150
John C Dvorak: Yeah, weed. And I
said, Hey, guys, don't make a

1553
01:28:15,150 --> 01:28:15,780
ganja.

1554
01:28:15,810 --> 01:28:19,500
Adam Curry: And so I said, yeah,
no, I had to quit because I had

1555
01:28:19,500 --> 01:28:22,680
to stop putting fire in my mouth
for my whole teeth procedure and

1556
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:27,840
all that. And he said, You know,
I can't do that since I quit. I

1557
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:33,390
quit 17 years ago. No, it wasn't
nearly 13 years ago. So what

1558
01:28:33,390 --> 01:28:36,900
happened? He says, Well, it was
a Tuesday. And that was my day

1559
01:28:36,900 --> 01:28:40,380
off. And I was baked at 830 in
the morning. And he goes off

1560
01:28:40,380 --> 01:28:43,710
that his child then crawled out
of the crib and the door was

1561
01:28:43,710 --> 01:28:46,620
open. He was freaking out. And
he didn't know he thought his

1562
01:28:46,620 --> 01:28:50,130
kid had crawled up out of her
crib and out the door. And he

1563
01:28:50,130 --> 01:28:53,310
said, Oh God, oh God, if I find
her, I'll never smoke weed

1564
01:28:53,310 --> 01:28:55,470
again. And of course, she was in
the corner of the crib. And he

1565
01:28:55,500 --> 01:28:59,040
he just missed her because he
was baked. But then he goes on

1566
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:03,060
to say, and we were the original
woke parents way before it was

1567
01:29:03,060 --> 01:29:06,210
fashionable. This is a Jamaican
guy. I said what do you mean? He

1568
01:29:06,210 --> 01:29:09,150
said, we go to the we go to the
toy store and we say we have a

1569
01:29:09,150 --> 01:29:12,720
son and a daughter is a son. You
can have anything you want.

1570
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,270
Doesn't matter what you want to
play with. You can get anything

1571
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:21,540
you want you want and what do
you pick up? A gun? Daughter,

1572
01:29:21,540 --> 01:29:24,450
same thing, anything you want.
You can play with anything. It's

1573
01:29:24,450 --> 01:29:28,560
okay. Whatever you want. She
picks up a pink unicorn. You

1574
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:33,390
know, it's like now that's just
one instance. But there's

1575
01:29:33,390 --> 01:29:37,140
something fundamentally wrong
with with parents who say when

1576
01:29:37,140 --> 01:29:40,230
our children tell us who they
are, it is our job as a grown up

1577
01:29:40,230 --> 01:29:43,440
to listen and to believe them.
That's what it means to be a

1578
01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:49,980
good parent. No, just hard. No.
I'm concerned by the statements

1579
01:29:49,980 --> 01:29:51,720
from elected officials.

1580
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,230
John C Dvorak: It's beyond me.
Well, I didn't mean the

1581
01:29:58,230 --> 01:30:01,350
minority. But the problem is you
get People like these elected

1582
01:30:01,350 --> 01:30:04,890
officials, yeah, who are
promoting it and then you have

1583
01:30:04,890 --> 01:30:07,350
the problem in the schools where
they're promoting it because the

1584
01:30:07,350 --> 01:30:09,180
teachers are such a low quality

1585
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,540
Adam Curry: and it's all just a
money grab. It's all a as we

1586
01:30:12,540 --> 01:30:16,140
know, from our insurance guy,
the producer, it's for per child

1587
01:30:16,140 --> 01:30:18,810
that goes into the system,
whether it's insurance paying

1588
01:30:18,810 --> 01:30:23,640
for it, or Oh, yes, it's a cash
cows, been million dollars per

1589
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:28,140
child to go through all of this
stuff, all of it. And you gotta

1590
01:30:28,140 --> 01:30:32,130
wonder, as a part of these
telehealth things that cropped

1591
01:30:32,130 --> 01:30:37,170
up, excuse me during COVID which
some of them are prescribing.

1592
01:30:37,170 --> 01:30:40,230
ozempic Now that's why Weight
Watchers bought one. Some of

1593
01:30:40,230 --> 01:30:44,160
them have the ability to
prescribe antidepressants. What

1594
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:48,180
else are they doing? Oh, I don't
feel good in my skin. Ah, of

1595
01:30:48,180 --> 01:30:51,630
course, it's because you're
trans. Let me refer you to

1596
01:30:51,630 --> 01:30:56,490
someone. I really concerned that
this is happening. It is

1597
01:30:56,490 --> 01:31:00,090
happening talk about a genocide.
Do you think they think Putin is

1598
01:31:00,090 --> 01:31:00,570
bad?

1599
01:31:02,550 --> 01:31:03,570
Unknown: Yeah, well

1600
01:31:05,790 --> 01:31:07,650
John C Dvorak: is a Democrat
genocide.

1601
01:31:07,710 --> 01:31:09,870
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right.
Let's let's just let's just

1602
01:31:09,870 --> 01:31:12,150
lighten the mood for a second.
Let's play something completely

1603
01:31:12,150 --> 01:31:12,690
different. I gotta

1604
01:31:12,690 --> 01:31:14,220
John C Dvorak: lighten the mood.
Can I get a couple of lighten

1605
01:31:14,220 --> 01:31:14,910
the mood clips?

1606
01:31:14,940 --> 01:31:15,960
Adam Curry: What can I start you
off?

1607
01:31:17,700 --> 01:31:20,760
Unknown: Go and Oklahoma woman
is recovering from a wild

1608
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,460
encounter with a monkey Police
say the animal was being kept as

1609
01:31:23,460 --> 01:31:26,550
a pet at a nearby home, but
somehow escaped and found its

1610
01:31:26,550 --> 01:31:29,490
way to Brittany Parker's porch.
She called police but after

1611
01:31:29,490 --> 01:31:32,220
losing sight of the monkey, she
went outside and that was a

1612
01:31:32,220 --> 01:31:33,390
dangerous mistake.

1613
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:37,470
Oh no, it was bouncing from my
hand railing on my front porch.

1614
01:31:37,830 --> 01:31:41,250
It happened so fast. The monkey
had jumped up off the ground

1615
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:46,860
onto my head and ripped out my
hair and then ripped my ear like

1616
01:31:46,860 --> 01:31:47,790
a piece of paper.

1617
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,410
A relative shot the monkey
Parker needed nearly 200

1618
01:31:52,410 --> 01:31:55,170
stitches and needs surgery on
her ear. It happened the same

1619
01:31:55,170 --> 01:31:58,620
day in Ohio man nearly lost his
arm after being attacked by his

1620
01:31:58,620 --> 01:31:59,490
pet zebra.

1621
01:31:59,940 --> 01:32:02,670
Adam Curry: Come on. Come on.
Come on.

1622
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:04,350
John C Dvorak: How is this
light?

1623
01:32:05,670 --> 01:32:08,250
Adam Curry: I just love the
kicker of a guy whose arm was

1624
01:32:08,250 --> 01:32:12,180
ripped up by his pet zebra. What
are you doing people?

1625
01:32:14,370 --> 01:32:18,480
John C Dvorak: I have clips more
like this. Okay. Millennial

1626
01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:19,230
advice.

1627
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,460
Adam Curry: Millennial advice.
Okay, here we go.

1628
01:32:23,490 --> 01:32:25,590
Unknown: If you saved $1 a day
for a year. Do

1629
01:32:25,590 --> 01:32:29,760
you know how much money you'd
have roughly $30,000. Right.

1630
01:32:32,370 --> 01:32:34,500
If you saved $1 a day for a
year, do

1631
01:32:34,500 --> 01:32:37,140
you know how much money you'd
have roughly $30,000.

1632
01:32:39,390 --> 01:32:43,140
Adam Curry: If you save $1 a day
for the rest of your life, no

1633
01:32:43,140 --> 01:32:48,750
for a year for a year, then you
have roughly $30,000 What is

1634
01:32:48,750 --> 01:32:54,480
this Etherium? These children
talking about? What did you get

1635
01:32:54,480 --> 01:32:55,050
that from?

1636
01:32:55,589 --> 01:32:57,809
John C Dvorak: I got it from a
clip of a bunch of millennial

1637
01:32:58,199 --> 01:33:00,539
advice a millennial advice.

1638
01:33:00,570 --> 01:33:02,370
Adam Curry: I didn't I don't
have any my show notes. I think

1639
01:33:02,370 --> 01:33:05,760
in the last in the last show
notes. One out of five people

1640
01:33:05,790 --> 01:33:09,420
cannot tell time on and that's
all people across the board.

1641
01:33:09,420 --> 01:33:11,850
We've talked about this before,
but I didn't know the stat was

1642
01:33:11,850 --> 01:33:15,000
one out of five of all people
cannot tell time from an analog

1643
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:18,000
clock I didn't know was one out
of five of all people.

1644
01:33:18,570 --> 01:33:20,130
John C Dvorak: I didn't know is
that high yield? I thought

1645
01:33:20,700 --> 01:33:22,200
that's very old millennial

1646
01:33:22,230 --> 01:33:23,850
Adam Curry: Are you sure that
thing wasn't satire, that

1647
01:33:23,850 --> 01:33:25,290
millennial advice thing?

1648
01:33:25,740 --> 01:33:29,310
John C Dvorak: Oh, no, it sounds
right to me. Okay, here. Here's

1649
01:33:29,310 --> 01:33:32,040
a good one. Now this is a very
interesting clip. This is this

1650
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:35,400
clip is titled Ben let me fit
set it up. idiot trying to

1651
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:40,770
explain privileged, this is a
looks like a kind of a Latina.

1652
01:33:41,820 --> 01:33:45,360
Asian is something some sort of
a mixed race girl going around.

1653
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:49,290
And she's like, very easily
upset by things. And she doesn't

1654
01:33:49,290 --> 01:33:54,270
like bullshit artists and she's
interviewing people. She's like

1655
01:33:54,270 --> 01:33:57,420
one of those on the street
types. And she's got some guy

1656
01:33:57,420 --> 01:34:01,620
who's he asked him to explain
privilege. This is some kid,

1657
01:34:01,830 --> 01:34:06,330
some just a dork white kid out
of high school, probably a

1658
01:34:06,330 --> 01:34:11,610
freshman who's been taught, you
know, certain ways of acting

1659
01:34:11,610 --> 01:34:13,530
because you're supposed to be
this way. He's supposed to feel

1660
01:34:13,530 --> 01:34:16,230
this way. He's supposed to say
these things. And he can't dig

1661
01:34:16,230 --> 01:34:19,980
himself out of a hole in this
very awkward situation. Here we

1662
01:34:19,980 --> 01:34:21,690
go. I grew up as a white

1663
01:34:22,020 --> 01:34:25,680
Unknown: man. And you're the
exact opposite, you know, and so

1664
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,660
it's like, my experiences are
gonna be different from yours.

1665
01:34:27,660 --> 01:34:31,890
How come? I think? You know,
there's a thing of like, white

1666
01:34:31,890 --> 01:34:32,520
privilege.

1667
01:34:33,030 --> 01:34:34,500
privileges. Do you have that? I
don't have.

1668
01:34:35,009 --> 01:34:37,469
Oh, see. That's the question. I
keep asking myself because like,

1669
01:34:37,589 --> 01:34:40,769
in this day and age, like all
the laws, I say all the laws.

1670
01:34:41,999 --> 01:34:44,069
It's hard to speak on something
I'm not fully knowledgeable of

1671
01:34:44,069 --> 01:34:47,069
so sorry if I like make mistake
and saying this, but it's like,

1672
01:34:47,999 --> 01:34:48,479
like

1673
01:34:51,930 --> 01:34:54,090
do you think it's a problem in
society when white people think

1674
01:34:54,090 --> 01:34:56,550
that they have more privileges
than brown or black people?

1675
01:34:57,150 --> 01:34:59,640
Yeah, and I think that's sort of
the agenda that's pushed off

1676
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:03,090
because Personally, it's like,
not that I think I'm more

1677
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,190
privileged than anyone else
because I had to work to get

1678
01:35:05,190 --> 01:35:07,170
where I was. And that's like the
Why do

1679
01:35:07,170 --> 01:35:09,240
you have that mentality
immediately where you, you know,

1680
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,300
kind of apologize to me like,
let's talk about privilege.

1681
01:35:12,300 --> 01:35:14,790
Let's talk about, I'm a white
man in America. So we could have

1682
01:35:14,790 --> 01:35:17,760
grown up differently. Why? Why
is that your first initial

1683
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,610
reaction to me as a brown woman?
Wow,

1684
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,890
you give me good See, this is a
common kind of conversations

1685
01:35:22,890 --> 01:35:27,270
that I love having. And I think
it comes from a place of like,

1686
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,610
I wouldn't say caution. But
like, in this day and age,

1687
01:35:32,610 --> 01:35:37,350
people are so quick to judge and
react and cancel. And so I guess

1688
01:35:37,350 --> 01:35:40,500
it's at that like caution to go
into an interview like this. I'm

1689
01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:42,750
like, I don't know where we're
at. But now I know where we're

1690
01:35:42,750 --> 01:35:43,560
at. And I can like,

1691
01:35:44,340 --> 01:35:45,150
go for real.

1692
01:35:45,480 --> 01:35:49,020
Adam Curry: Whoa, I think I've
seen this actually. I think I

1693
01:35:49,020 --> 01:35:50,160
think I've seen this clip a
while

1694
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:53,220
Unknown: back especially around
that. Yeah, yeah, it's

1695
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:54,090
authentic.

1696
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:56,550
Adam Curry: But I have a friend
and I won't say on the air who

1697
01:35:56,550 --> 01:36:00,090
it is because you know him very
well. He worked at our company

1698
01:36:00,090 --> 01:36:04,320
for a while. He's having a real
hard time in this in this

1699
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:08,430
downturn, certainly in
technology. He says, you know,

1700
01:36:08,430 --> 01:36:11,940
an X technology, entrepreneur,
53 years old and white and

1701
01:36:11,940 --> 01:36:16,770
straight, said I have zero
options. I'm getting no work no

1702
01:36:16,770 --> 01:36:24,450
one and it's all because of
this. He's not being hired. He

1703
01:36:24,450 --> 01:36:28,410
can't he can't buy a job. It's
distressing.

1704
01:36:29,580 --> 01:36:32,010
John C Dvorak: We had a clip
above five years ago of a

1705
01:36:32,010 --> 01:36:37,020
director, Hollywood guy who says
who talked about his agent told

1706
01:36:37,020 --> 01:36:39,360
them you can you're not gonna
get any work for the next number

1707
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,480
of years unless you come out of
the closet as gay.

1708
01:36:43,500 --> 01:36:46,380
Adam Curry: That's so
interesting, because that's

1709
01:36:46,380 --> 01:36:49,950
exactly what Tina said. He
should just say he's gay. I fake

1710
01:36:49,950 --> 01:36:52,950
it till you make it. I'm like, I
think he has some scruples.

1711
01:36:55,290 --> 01:36:58,260
John C Dvorak: I think it has
pride. You can always become a

1712
01:36:58,260 --> 01:36:59,040
podcaster

1713
01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:03,810
Adam Curry: Oh, no, there it is.
That's the end of it. I want to

1714
01:37:03,810 --> 01:37:04,530
move to China for a

1715
01:37:04,530 --> 01:37:07,410
Unknown: second. CBS News has
learned the FBI and Justice

1716
01:37:07,410 --> 01:37:10,500
Department are investigating
tiktoks parent company for

1717
01:37:10,500 --> 01:37:14,910
possibly spying on us citizens,
including American journalists

1718
01:37:14,940 --> 01:37:18,390
who cover the tech industry that
Chinese owned bytedance

1719
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:21,510
reportedly admitted it
inappropriately obtained data

1720
01:37:21,510 --> 01:37:25,560
from Tik Tok users in the US in
December is just the latest

1721
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,470
escalation between the social
media giant and the White House.

1722
01:37:28,620 --> 01:37:31,560
Half of the Biden administration
this week threatened to ban

1723
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:35,490
Tiktok nationwide if bytedance
doesn't sell the app.

1724
01:37:35,610 --> 01:37:39,420
Adam Curry: Now this is a very
old story. This spying on

1725
01:37:39,420 --> 01:37:43,380
journalists, which of course you
know, can be done it is being

1726
01:37:43,380 --> 01:37:47,970
done actively by every single
app you use, call it spying it

1727
01:37:47,970 --> 01:37:52,380
you know, if you use the
information to track someone,

1728
01:37:52,860 --> 01:37:57,750
whether you you give that to
someone to go and spy on them or

1729
01:37:57,750 --> 01:38:00,150
not. It's the information it's
not like tick tock has been

1730
01:38:00,150 --> 01:38:04,740
spying unlike anybody else. So
that bringing this out, and this

1731
01:38:04,740 --> 01:38:09,660
is CBS, CIA broadcasting systems
who are just I mean, this is an

1732
01:38:09,690 --> 01:38:12,990
old old story, and now all
sudden the FBI is on it. I don't

1733
01:38:12,990 --> 01:38:17,280
know if that's true. But we
received a very good boots on

1734
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:21,840
the ground email. Did you see
this one from the inside info on

1735
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:26,580
tick tock advertising? No, I
want to share this because this

1736
01:38:26,580 --> 01:38:31,470
is good. Now remember, that the
initial my initial thesis and

1737
01:38:31,470 --> 01:38:36,000
still is that this is all
because tick tock has figured

1738
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:42,060
out has a system that is much
better than Facebook, Instagram,

1739
01:38:42,330 --> 01:38:47,310
Twitter, Google, they have a way
to a part of it. Maybe the

1740
01:38:47,310 --> 01:38:50,190
algorithm I don't think that's
it's that important if you read

1741
01:38:50,190 --> 01:38:53,340
through this, if you hear this,
but they're basically taking

1742
01:38:53,340 --> 01:38:56,940
away billions of dollars from
these established companies. And

1743
01:38:56,940 --> 01:38:59,760
there's no letting up now that
we know that they have just

1744
01:38:59,790 --> 01:39:03,000
announced they're entering the
search ad market. So that's

1745
01:39:03,030 --> 01:39:08,580
squarely in Google's territory.
So time to step it up. Our

1746
01:39:08,580 --> 01:39:11,730
producer says I was looking to
Thursday show and have some

1747
01:39:11,730 --> 01:39:14,190
insights on the tick tock
conversation due to geopolitical

1748
01:39:14,190 --> 01:39:16,560
issues involved in this and who
my employer is. I'm remaining

1749
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:20,190
anonymous. Of course, if you use
a Disney show, I manage global

1750
01:39:20,190 --> 01:39:23,820
brand ads on social media for a
large tech manufacturer that is

1751
01:39:23,820 --> 01:39:27,390
very active on tick tock. I'm
also responsible for governance

1752
01:39:27,390 --> 01:39:30,660
and best practices for all
social media as for our company,

1753
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:34,530
across all our lines of business
and countries around the world.

1754
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,950
This is the kind of boots on the
ground we need. And this is

1755
01:39:37,950 --> 01:39:43,470
very, very good. We have shifted
nearly half of our brand social

1756
01:39:43,470 --> 01:39:48,510
ad budget to tick tock over the
last year half. And E commerce

1757
01:39:48,510 --> 01:39:51,660
and other ads are also shifting
a lot of their budget that way

1758
01:39:51,660 --> 01:39:56,580
as well. I reached out to our
rep from tic toc to get an

1759
01:39:56,580 --> 01:39:59,970
official tic toc stance on
what's happening. Copying in

1760
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,660
pasting verbatim here except for
removing couple sentences that

1761
01:40:03,660 --> 01:40:06,750
would identify my company or the
tic toc employee who sent it.

1762
01:40:07,710 --> 01:40:14,010
Ready? Go. So his question is,
you know, what's up with that?

1763
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:18,510
And are you going to be kicked
off and you know, what is

1764
01:40:18,510 --> 01:40:22,590
happening? So the employee
writes back first, I recognize

1765
01:40:22,590 --> 01:40:25,110
the goal of showing up on Tik
Tok and spending your media

1766
01:40:25,110 --> 01:40:29,340
budget with our platform is to
elevate redacted brand, I do

1767
01:40:29,340 --> 01:40:35,430
believe, despite the political.
No, it says I do believe despite

1768
01:40:35,580 --> 01:40:38,640
does, despite the political
climate, we continue to deliver

1769
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,550
on this. It's important to
separate congressmen sentiment

1770
01:40:41,550 --> 01:40:44,550
versus user sentiment towards
tick tock, which continues to be

1771
01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:48,810
positive and outpaces other
platforms. Second, we are highly

1772
01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:52,740
confident we will not get
banned. Our strategy and this is

1773
01:40:52,770 --> 01:40:57,390
in from a tick tock ad sales
representative. So this is

1774
01:40:57,390 --> 01:41:00,510
they're sending this to other
people, I presume. Our strategy

1775
01:41:00,510 --> 01:41:04,200
as a company remains the same.
Continue to be transparent, have

1776
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:08,340
US based protections for storing
user data in the US with Oracle,

1777
01:41:08,820 --> 01:41:13,770
which is, which is happened.
Funny and build systems with

1778
01:41:13,770 --> 01:41:16,860
robust third party monitoring,
vetting and verification.

1779
01:41:17,130 --> 01:41:21,420
There's a reason why it's tick
tock in the US versus Duyen is a

1780
01:41:21,420 --> 01:41:26,070
DI N Do you Yein? Do we even
know how to pronounce it either.

1781
01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:29,880
In China, we must adhere to US
law as a US company, as

1782
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:33,360
headlines prove tic tock faces
more scrutiny than any other

1783
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:36,630
tech social media platform. With
that we are more transparent,

1784
01:41:36,630 --> 01:41:39,510
more proactive and more
cognizant of the guardrails we

1785
01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:44,190
must have in place if we want to
operate in the US. Let's believe

1786
01:41:44,190 --> 01:41:47,640
that to be true, yes. And I
think that they are dumping

1787
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,970
their data into Oracle, which
Oracle and the CIA should be

1788
01:41:50,970 --> 01:41:51,960
very happy about.

1789
01:41:52,620 --> 01:41:56,160
John C Dvorak: Yeah, exactly
what the Yeah, adis should be

1790
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:57,330
very happy.

1791
01:41:57,990 --> 01:42:01,800
Adam Curry: Let's look back at
the Trump era colong 130 million

1792
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,590
plus us in the US use Tiktok to
express themselves. So it's a

1793
01:42:04,590 --> 01:42:07,080
platform tied to the First
Amendment freedom of speech.

1794
01:42:07,230 --> 01:42:10,020
This was at the foundation of
why a ban was denied from the

1795
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:12,690
courts during the Trump
administration and still holds

1796
01:42:12,690 --> 01:42:17,670
true. Who has access to tick
tock user data. All US data is

1797
01:42:17,670 --> 01:42:21,270
stored automatically in the
Oracle Cloud infrastructure in

1798
01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:25,590
the US secure environment to
protect Americans user data. You

1799
01:42:25,590 --> 01:42:29,220
don't hear this from Holly or
any of these other jokes. Do you

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01:42:29,220 --> 01:42:31,380
know data

1801
01:42:31,440 --> 01:42:34,530
John C Dvorak: or Rubio and I
believe it to be true? Of course

1802
01:42:34,530 --> 01:42:38,100
it's true. We we reported Yes.
Why isn't the media talking

1803
01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:39,990
about this? So just you know
Boston away.

1804
01:42:40,290 --> 01:42:43,530
Adam Curry: Data Access is
managed by a US data security

1805
01:42:43,530 --> 01:42:46,800
team who are part of our
initiative, Project Project

1806
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,490
Texas, responsible for
implementing layers of security

1807
01:42:50,490 --> 01:42:53,190
and oversight to ensure that
Americans can feel very

1808
01:42:53,190 --> 01:42:56,010
confident that the data they
share with us is safe and

1809
01:42:56,010 --> 01:43:00,180
secure. What exactly is project
Texas, an initiative in

1810
01:43:00,180 --> 01:43:04,890
partnership with Oracle that has
cost $1.5 billion and has been

1811
01:43:04,890 --> 01:43:07,650
two years in the works
preventing inappropriate access

1812
01:43:07,650 --> 01:43:11,370
to data including know approval
mechanisms by the US new

1813
01:43:11,370 --> 01:43:14,130
approval mechanisms by which US
data would be shared with the

1814
01:43:14,130 --> 01:43:17,520
Chinese government data has
never been shared, nor have they

1815
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,180
ever asked Tik Tok for us user
data. Well, it hasn't been

1816
01:43:21,180 --> 01:43:24,510
shared, but I'm sure it's been
picked out by the CIA. Oracle

1817
01:43:24,510 --> 01:43:30,150
Cloud infrastructure is the same
work infrastructure the

1818
01:43:30,180 --> 01:43:33,990
intelligence agencies use five
pillars of focus independent

1819
01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:36,810
governance, data and access
control, Software Assurance,

1820
01:43:36,810 --> 01:43:40,230
content assurance and third
party oversight. Independent US

1821
01:43:40,230 --> 01:43:42,900
government approved third
parties will be invited to

1822
01:43:42,900 --> 01:43:46,410
conduct regular audits of our
data system. This is all project

1823
01:43:46,410 --> 01:43:49,890
Texas, protected data will not
be allowed to transfer anywhere,

1824
01:43:50,130 --> 01:43:54,180
anywhere out the US. outside the
US. Tiktok source code is

1825
01:43:54,180 --> 01:43:57,420
reviewed by Oracle and a third
party inspected inspector

1826
01:43:57,510 --> 01:44:01,350
enacted since August 2022. first
revealed in a letter to a group

1827
01:44:01,350 --> 01:44:05,370
of US senators in June 2022.
Funny Did you know about that,

1828
01:44:05,370 --> 01:44:05,730
John?

1829
01:44:06,510 --> 01:44:09,390
John C Dvorak: No, I didn't know
that the senators knew all this

1830
01:44:09,570 --> 01:44:12,720
Adam Curry: other important
information. All Users opt into

1831
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,480
the data we collect. We are
transparent. We never collect

1832
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:18,600
real time physical locations
like Google Maps would put

1833
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:22,980
instead, approximate locations
to serve relevant content as any

1834
01:44:22,980 --> 01:44:26,010
other relevant app or publisher
does. Unlike all this for

1835
01:44:26,010 --> 01:44:29,310
advertising purposes. Yes.
Unlike other platforms, we also

1836
01:44:29,340 --> 01:44:33,750
never sell user data to anyone I
don't know does, uh, I don't

1837
01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:37,680
know. I'm not sure who sells
what. We have significant

1838
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:41,340
safeguards for users 13 to 18
bytedance Our parent company is

1839
01:44:41,340 --> 01:44:46,110
incorporated in the Cayman
Islands, not China. That's

1840
01:44:46,110 --> 01:44:48,750
interest you always hear Chinese
company bytedance

1841
01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:51,570
John C Dvorak: That's
interesting.

1842
01:44:52,500 --> 01:44:56,430
Adam Curry: 60% of the company
is owned by global investment

1843
01:44:56,430 --> 01:45:02,040
firms 20% by our founders and
20% by employees including 1000s

1844
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:10,500
of Americans how about that? So
when you hear like we played on

1845
01:45:10,500 --> 01:45:17,700
the last show, Marco Rubio asked
came out again. Okay, hold on a

1846
01:45:17,700 --> 01:45:27,450
second. Rubio it was was it
didn't have that ready if it was

1847
01:45:27,450 --> 01:45:34,500
the shoot man I don't have that
where he said Can China control

1848
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:41,610
the user data? Yeah sure. So
this this is the truth I'm going

1849
01:45:41,610 --> 01:45:44,850
to I'm just going to take our
producers word for it that this

1850
01:45:44,850 --> 01:45:48,450
is the truth. So it's going to
me it seems very difficult and a

1851
01:45:48,450 --> 01:45:50,910
lot of hurdles that

1852
01:45:50,940 --> 01:45:54,420
John C Dvorak: it wouldn't be
very easy to double check any of

1853
01:45:54,420 --> 01:45:58,950
this information it sounds
right. And event the fuss is

1854
01:45:58,950 --> 01:46:02,040
being made seems like a smoke
you know, it's a tempest in a

1855
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:05,310
teapot or a smoke screen or
cover up something else going on

1856
01:46:05,310 --> 01:46:10,380
or who knows what. And so now,
but nobody does any research.

1857
01:46:10,380 --> 01:46:11,850
No, no. Hey, the Dutch

1858
01:46:11,850 --> 01:46:12,570
Adam Curry: farmer party

1859
01:46:15,930 --> 01:46:19,170
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the Dutch
farmer partner party bag better.

1860
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:25,680
Adam Curry: Tokyo Matt, who told
us about computer vision

1861
01:46:25,710 --> 01:46:30,930
followed up, which is the the
ability of which you are

1862
01:46:30,930 --> 01:46:36,180
absolutely correct. The ability
to, to use computer vision to

1863
01:46:36,180 --> 01:46:40,710
look at books on the shelf,
whatever people are video of

1864
01:46:40,710 --> 01:46:43,980
themselves. He had an
interesting follow up tic TOCs

1865
01:46:43,980 --> 01:46:47,670
computer vision via the HD
smartphone camera automatically

1866
01:46:47,670 --> 01:46:51,630
reads catalogs and collates the
stuff in people's rooms and

1867
01:46:51,630 --> 01:46:54,810
streams it to a database without
the need for humans to organize

1868
01:46:54,810 --> 01:46:58,140
it. The consumer profiling of
young millennials and Zoomers is

1869
01:46:58,140 --> 01:47:01,620
done in real time, with less
worry of human error slash

1870
01:47:01,620 --> 01:47:05,700
laziness slash poor training,
slash people quitting etc. When

1871
01:47:05,700 --> 01:47:09,360
the data is annotated as text,
it becomes metadata which can

1872
01:47:09,390 --> 01:47:12,900
easily be packaged and sold to
advertisers. Millions of teen

1873
01:47:12,900 --> 01:47:16,710
girls dancing in the rooms means
millions of advertiser friendly

1874
01:47:16,710 --> 01:47:20,460
consumer profiles being created
in real time without the time

1875
01:47:20,460 --> 01:47:24,090
sucking need of humans. Thanks
to computer vision automation,

1876
01:47:24,210 --> 01:47:27,780
humans take too long to do this
type of work and get lost in the

1877
01:47:27,780 --> 01:47:30,750
amount of data streaming at
them. The AI can suck it up,

1878
01:47:30,750 --> 01:47:34,410
annotate, collate, turn it into
consumer metadata suited to a

1879
01:47:34,410 --> 01:47:38,070
array of psycho graphical market
segments and then tick tock can

1880
01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:41,700
decide what to do with it. Now.
As you pointed out, it's been

1881
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:45,030
just technology has been around
for a long time. But look at the

1882
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:50,130
difference. YouTube has shows
yeah, great shows people with

1883
01:47:50,130 --> 01:47:54,420
microphones with headphones on.
That's not a great place to get

1884
01:47:54,420 --> 01:47:59,190
meta data. Tick tock in your car
in your in your room in your

1885
01:47:59,190 --> 01:48:00,570
bedroom and you living in

1886
01:48:00,630 --> 01:48:02,940
John C Dvorak: the rooms
definitely the way to go. So no

1887
01:48:02,940 --> 01:48:05,520
guys, who are the guys with the
microphones, headphones or even

1888
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:08,880
people on Zoom calls with fake
backgrounds. There's always some

1889
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:13,500
how many people have a grand
piano in their house? What is

1890
01:48:13,500 --> 01:48:15,900
the grand piano room? I mean,
come on.

1891
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:18,870
Adam Curry: So that's the
problem. It's not a

1892
01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:22,590
technological issue. It's a
cultural issue of the platform.

1893
01:48:23,370 --> 01:48:26,400
That's what's going on here. And
that's why they need them out.

1894
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:30,330
They need him to stop because
they are sucking up

1895
01:48:30,330 --> 01:48:33,810
John C Dvorak: all the money and
sucking up the money that sucked

1896
01:48:33,810 --> 01:48:36,840
but they're sucking up the
money. They're sucking up the

1897
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:41,610
money that these guys in Silicon
Valley ever since the whole

1898
01:48:41,610 --> 01:48:47,250
thing went kind of software from
hardware. They feel they feel

1899
01:48:48,030 --> 01:48:52,560
like they're they have like a
privilege they their obligation

1900
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:57,030
is to them they have a what is
it call when you have a right to

1901
01:48:57,030 --> 01:49:01,620
your money or you feel that you
that it has to go to you there's

1902
01:49:01,620 --> 01:49:07,200
a specific word I'm looking for.
You we have a girl you have

1903
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:11,610
Adam Curry: agreed to what greed
was not greed besides greed.

1904
01:49:11,610 --> 01:49:16,680
John C Dvorak: You mean? They
just have this this attitude

1905
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,820
that this should be their money.
And tick tock is an interloper.

1906
01:49:21,450 --> 01:49:25,440
Edelman entitlement entitlement.
I'm sorry, I didn't I was.

1907
01:49:25,650 --> 01:49:26,520
Adam Curry: Thank you, trolls.

1908
01:49:27,059 --> 01:49:28,949
John C Dvorak: Thank you trolls.
Will you stay? There's an

1909
01:49:28,949 --> 01:49:33,689
entitlement at Google. Because
Oh, look, all the work we did to

1910
01:49:33,689 --> 01:49:37,229
get this to work in the first
place we're entitled to we're

1911
01:49:37,229 --> 01:49:41,249
entitled This is like the you
see this in sports where the guy

1912
01:49:41,249 --> 01:49:44,369
is no good anymore. He's been
playing the game too long. But

1913
01:49:44,369 --> 01:49:48,569
he feels he should get more
money now because he's, he's put

1914
01:49:48,569 --> 01:49:52,499
so much effort into it in the
past. Right. He's now entitled,

1915
01:49:52,739 --> 01:49:57,059
he's entitled to the to some
some recompense. And so there's

1916
01:49:57,059 --> 01:50:00,659
entitlement at Google. There's
entitlement at Michael or soft?

1917
01:50:00,869 --> 01:50:05,519
There's entitlement ad at
Twitter for sure. It's not a

1918
01:50:05,519 --> 01:50:07,949
control this entitlement. And
then of course, nothing was a

1919
01:50:07,949 --> 01:50:10,769
bitch about entitlements because
oh my god, people put money in

1920
01:50:10,769 --> 01:50:13,589
Social Security expect her money
out of Social Security what kind

1921
01:50:13,589 --> 01:50:17,339
of thing is that? And but these
guys yeah entitled

1922
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:21,630
Adam Curry: so because they're
losing, they've all unmasked

1923
01:50:21,660 --> 01:50:24,990
decided and you'll notice that
tick tock is one of the few that

1924
01:50:24,990 --> 01:50:27,600
has said just just not
interested not impressed.

1925
01:50:28,110 --> 01:50:33,390
They've all decided chat GPT GPG
for that's how we're gonna do

1926
01:50:33,390 --> 01:50:38,460
it, that's gonna win. That's the
way to do it. This is great. And

1927
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,140
John C Dvorak: this brings us to
our discussion of Yes, hi.

1928
01:50:43,170 --> 01:50:46,440
Adam Curry: That's right. So I
want to so good old sir Jean,

1929
01:50:46,620 --> 01:50:53,850
Duke of Texas. He He texted me
last week, he says he sends me a

1930
01:50:53,850 --> 01:50:58,230
screenshot of a chat GPT for you
know, this is the new the new

1931
01:50:58,230 --> 01:51:02,220
version, the new large language
set. That is it large language

1932
01:51:02,220 --> 01:51:06,360
set, I think large learning set,
whatever it is. And he sends me

1933
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:11,670
this picture screenshot and
says, chat GPT no stuff. And

1934
01:51:11,670 --> 01:51:15,420
Gene, by the way, is a very,
very intelligent man. He's very

1935
01:51:15,420 --> 01:51:19,080
smart, but I think he got a
little wrapped up in this. You

1936
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:24,420
know, Star Trek computer, tell
me what to do. Computer? No,

1937
01:51:24,450 --> 01:51:28,890
like, this is great. And so he's
he sends me this and I'm not

1938
01:51:28,890 --> 01:51:32,250
picking on Jean. I love Jean.
He's my friend. But I got I

1939
01:51:32,250 --> 01:51:34,950
mean, I even said to him, I
said, Man, please, let's just go

1940
01:51:34,950 --> 01:51:38,490
through this for a second. The
question to judge GPT for was

1941
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:42,180
tell me more about Adam curry.
Let's see if you can catch the

1942
01:51:42,180 --> 01:51:45,810
mistakes. John. Adam curry is
immediate personality and I'll

1943
01:51:45,810 --> 01:51:49,470
ring the bell. Bell. Adam curry
is a media personality and

1944
01:51:49,470 --> 01:51:54,300
entrepreneur who was one? Well,
okay, John C. Dvorak. Berkeley.

1945
01:51:54,300 --> 01:51:55,500
Yes. What did you catch?

1946
01:51:57,180 --> 01:51:59,100
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know that you know, he's a

1947
01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:00,180
podcast. Thank

1948
01:52:00,180 --> 01:52:04,290
Adam Curry: you, Adam. Adam
curry is a media personality and

1949
01:52:04,290 --> 01:52:08,010
entrepreneur who was one of the
earliest pioneers of podcasting.

1950
01:52:08,730 --> 01:52:09,990
Hello, hello, ring.

1951
01:52:10,769 --> 01:52:12,089
John C Dvorak: When did you
invented it? Thank

1952
01:52:12,090 --> 01:52:15,330
Adam Curry: you. He's best known
for CO creating the popular

1953
01:52:15,330 --> 01:52:20,940
podcast no agenda with his
longtime friend. When a friend

1954
01:52:21,450 --> 01:52:26,160
and collaborator collaborator
John C. Dvorak Curry was born on

1955
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:30,510
September 3 1964, Washington DC
and grew up in in various parts

1956
01:52:30,510 --> 01:52:35,640
of the United States and Europe.
No, I lived in Kensington,

1957
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:42,600
Maryland. And I lived in Uganda,
whereas that, in the 1980s, he

1958
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:47,670
became a popular MTV VJ, posting
shows like headbangers ball, and

1959
01:52:47,670 --> 01:52:51,960
120 minutes, and never hosted
120 minutes. That was Dave

1960
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:57,030
Kendall with a wig on his head
wrong. After leaving MTV, he

1961
01:52:57,030 --> 01:53:00,450
became interested in new media
technologies and started

1962
01:53:00,450 --> 01:53:06,000
experimenting with podcasting, a
term he helped popularize. I

1963
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:11,340
didn't even know where to begin
with that sentence. That's in

1964
01:53:11,340 --> 01:53:15,450
2004, curry began hosting his
own podcast. Oh, because it was

1965
01:53:15,450 --> 01:53:19,710
already invented. And I think
I'll do a podcast, the daily

1966
01:53:19,710 --> 01:53:23,310
source code, which became one of
the most popular podcasts of its

1967
01:53:23,310 --> 01:53:30,960
time. It was the only podcast of
its time. He later teamed up

1968
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,650
with Dvorak to create no agenda,
a podcast that combines News

1969
01:53:34,650 --> 01:53:39,420
Analysis, commentary and humor.
How they got one right, I'll

1970
01:53:39,420 --> 01:53:42,780
give him that good. Yeah, the
show has developed a large and

1971
01:53:42,780 --> 01:53:45,720
dedicated following, and has
been credited with helping to

1972
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:48,000
shape the alternative media
landscape.

1973
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John C Dvorak: I don't know
about that. Not only either.

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01:53:52,440 --> 01:53:56,040
Adam Curry: Curry is also an
entrepreneur. Having founded

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01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:59,460
several successful tech
companies over the years, I

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01:53:59,460 --> 01:54:03,930
would say the last one was not
so successful. He was an early

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01:54:03,930 --> 01:54:07,740
investor in an evangelist for
Bitcoin and other

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01:54:07,740 --> 01:54:11,550
cryptocurrencies and has been
involved in various blockchain

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and cryptocurrency projects.

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Unknown: Well, no.

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01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:20,340
Adam Curry: I'm an investor in
Bitcoin everybody. Overall, Adam

1982
01:54:20,340 --> 01:54:23,190
curry is a well known figure in
the podcasting and alternative

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01:54:23,190 --> 01:54:32,070
media communities known for his
innovative spirit to spirit and

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01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:35,280
his ability to stay ahead of the
curve when it comes to new media

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01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:41,070
technologies. Okay. I give this
entire sentence complete

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01:54:41,490 --> 01:54:44,970
bullshit. This is bull crap.

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01:54:45,450 --> 01:54:48,060
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it seems
it's just this fluff pieces

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01:54:48,060 --> 01:54:51,840
fluff and that yes, that's what
I say inaccurate fluff flowery

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01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,240
Adam Curry: words. It's word
salad and I said the gene.

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01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:57,390
pushback. He said, I don't think
you're just not seeing it yet.

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01:54:57,390 --> 01:55:01,050
Yeah, unfortunately, I'm seeing
it very clearly. This is worse

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01:55:01,050 --> 01:55:05,250
than Posterous This is disaster
as you look me up. Oh my

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01:55:05,250 --> 01:55:11,310
goodness. You really want this?
Okay, I did not. But I shall now

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01:55:11,340 --> 01:55:14,640
have you. You have not
registered for chat GPT JLT

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01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:15,540
Forum. I'm still

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01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,870
John C Dvorak: I'm still I'm
still waiting in the wings there

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01:55:18,870 --> 01:55:20,370
to take this on. And okay,

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01:55:20,370 --> 01:55:24,720
Adam Curry: so I shall now I've
signed up through Google. All

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01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:29,340
junk I do goes to my Google
address because I do our man. I

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01:55:29,340 --> 01:55:33,960
do not care. And oh, since I'm
logging in for the first time on

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01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:40,290
this computer, this is a free
research preview. Keyword being

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01:55:40,290 --> 01:55:46,290
free and preview. And we'll get
to that in a moment. Okay, here

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01:55:46,290 --> 01:55:53,220
we go. And it was a lot of a lot
of a lot of disclaimers. Okay,

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01:55:53,610 --> 01:56:01,500
I'll ask the same question. Tell
me about John C. Dvorak. Oops.

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01:56:03,060 --> 01:56:11,580
To vorak Okay. And away we go.
Okay, I will read as it types is

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01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:15,240
blinking computer tell me about
John C. Dvorak. Blinking,

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01:56:15,420 --> 01:56:18,120
blinking, blinking, blinking,
it's still blinking.

2008
01:56:19,380 --> 01:56:21,450
John C Dvorak: It's still
blinking. Can't find me.

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01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,500
Unknown: John C. Dvorak is a
well known American technology

2010
01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:29,370
communist columnist, author, and
broadcaster. He was born on

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01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:35,520
April 5 1952. In Los Angeles,
California. DeVore. AK is best

2012
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:39,840
known for his work as columnist
for PC Magazine, where he wrote

2013
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:44,970
the quote inside track column
for many years. Devorah has been

2014
01:56:44,970 --> 01:56:49,470
involved in the technology
industry since the late 1970s.

2015
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:53,580
He started his career as a
freelance writer and worked for

2016
01:56:53,580 --> 01:56:57,600
various technology publications,
including InfoWorld PC World and

2017
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:03,210
Mark Hughes up in 1986. He
started writing for PC Magazine,

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01:57:03,390 --> 01:57:06,600
and became one of its most
popular and influential

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01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:09,540
columnist to vorak. So far, so
good.

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01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:14,700
John C Dvorak: Well, they got my
birthdate, right. And the year,

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01:57:14,790 --> 01:57:18,780
the month I started at PC
Magazine, and it's just now just

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01:57:18,810 --> 01:57:23,130
kind of fluff. It's like, you
know, it's, it's, it's not bad.

2023
01:57:23,130 --> 01:57:27,360
It's not wrong. Where's my
podcasting stuff? Gaborik

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01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:29,430
Unknown: is known for his
outspoken and controversial

2025
01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:32,580
views on technology in the
technology industry. He has been

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01:57:32,580 --> 01:57:35,100
critical of companies like
Microsoft and Apple, and has

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01:57:35,100 --> 01:57:38,280
been known to take a contrarian
view on many technology related

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01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:41,760
issues. He is also known for his
skepticism of new technologies,

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01:57:41,850 --> 01:57:43,590
and it's often been proven right
in his

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01:57:48,420 --> 01:57:50,580
John C Dvorak: left in your
reading laughter.

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01:57:51,930 --> 01:57:53,850
Adam Curry: Going crazy, who's
going nuts on me?

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01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:57,420
John C Dvorak: Pretty good going
on here. He is also known

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01:57:57,420 --> 01:57:59,790
Unknown: for his skepticism of
new technologies and has often

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01:57:59,790 --> 01:58:01,920
been proven right in his
predictions about which

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01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:04,530
technologies will succeed and
which will fail.

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01:58:04,860 --> 01:58:06,720
Adam Curry: Wow, are you
programming this thing?

2037
01:58:12,450 --> 01:58:15,870
Oh, my goodness. Let's see. I'm
just gonna read it myself. I'm

2038
01:58:15,870 --> 01:58:19,830
tired of the voice. Hey, in
addition to his work as a

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01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:22,650
columnist of work has also
prolific author and has written

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01:58:22,650 --> 01:58:25,380
several books on technology,
including the vortex guide to PC

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01:58:25,380 --> 01:58:29,280
telecommunications and online
the book. I've never read online

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01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:33,630
the book, it was good. He has
also been a regular guest on

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01:58:33,630 --> 01:58:36,810
radio and television programs,
including the TV show Tech TV

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01:58:36,810 --> 01:58:40,350
and the radio show no agenda.
Oh, yeah. Radio, baby. Oh, by

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01:58:40,350 --> 01:58:43,410
the way, your show no agenda.
It's the radio show no agenda.

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01:58:43,770 --> 01:58:44,880
Overall. Jhansi.

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01:58:45,270 --> 01:58:48,060
Unknown: We go back to zippy,
overall, Jhansi. Dvorak is a

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01:58:48,060 --> 01:58:51,270
highly respected and influential
figure in the technology

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01:58:51,270 --> 01:58:54,570
industry. And his views and
opinions are widely respected by

2050
01:58:54,570 --> 01:58:57,780
both industry insiders and
consumers alike.

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01:58:58,140 --> 01:58:59,790
Adam Curry: And that's it.
That's all we know about you for

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01:58:59,790 --> 01:59:00,120
now.

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01:59:00,690 --> 01:59:01,710
John C Dvorak: It stops right
there.

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01:59:01,740 --> 01:59:02,610
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's the
end.

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01:59:06,270 --> 01:59:08,130
John C Dvorak: All right, I
guess your podcasts for 15

2056
01:59:08,130 --> 01:59:11,640
years, it hasn't caught up to
chat GPT or whatever it is.

2057
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:12,540
Interesting.

2058
01:59:12,900 --> 01:59:17,910
Adam Curry: I hope you don't
mind. Just to set to do this is

2059
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:21,870
important. Whatever this Chad
GPT has in his memory is going

2060
01:59:21,870 --> 01:59:24,360
to be truth for the rest of our
lives.

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01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:27,510
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I
liked the accolades, so I'm not

2062
01:59:27,510 --> 01:59:28,380
gonna argue about that.

2063
01:59:28,410 --> 01:59:31,740
Adam Curry: But I did just ask
what did he say about the mouse

2064
01:59:31,770 --> 01:59:34,920
just to just to see what stuck
if you don't mind, if you don't

2065
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:35,280
mind?

2066
01:59:35,730 --> 01:59:38,370
Unknown: John C. Dvorak has
expressed a range of opinions

2067
01:59:38,370 --> 01:59:41,580
about the mouse the popular
input device use with personal

2068
01:59:41,580 --> 01:59:45,210
computers. In the past, Dvorak
has been critical of the mouse,

2069
01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:47,970
arguing that it was an
unnecessary and inefficient way

2070
01:59:47,970 --> 01:59:50,580
to interact with the computer.
He believed that the mouse was a

2071
01:59:50,580 --> 01:59:53,460
fad that would eventually be
replaced by more efficient input

2072
01:59:53,460 --> 01:59:57,630
devices. However, in recent
years, the vortex views on the

2073
01:59:57,630 --> 02:00:00,570
mouse have softened somewhat,
while he still believes that the

2074
02:00:00,570 --> 02:00:03,600
mouse has some drawbacks. He
acknowledges that it is useful

2075
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:06,030
tool for certain tasks such as
graphic design and video

2076
02:00:06,030 --> 02:00:08,460
editing. He also recognized that
many people have become

2077
02:00:08,460 --> 02:00:10,830
accustomed to using the mouse
and find it to be an intuitive

2078
02:00:10,830 --> 02:00:13,800
way to interact with their
computers. Overall, the borax

2079
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:16,770
view on the mouse has evolved
over time. And he continues to

2080
02:00:16,770 --> 02:00:19,440
be a vocal and opinionated
commentator on all things

2081
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:20,940
related to technology.

2082
02:00:22,980 --> 02:00:25,140
John C Dvorak: I would say
that's not inaccurate.

2083
02:00:25,650 --> 02:00:27,480
Adam Curry: Well, the
inaccuracies that you said

2084
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:28,920
there's no evidence.

2085
02:00:29,549 --> 02:00:31,469
John C Dvorak: You're that's
true. They left out the key

2086
02:00:31,499 --> 02:00:35,369
element A, which is the no
evidence comment. Yeah. And the

2087
02:00:35,369 --> 02:00:40,439
other thing is that I've never
really made any assertions in my

2088
02:00:40,439 --> 02:00:45,929
life that I know of. Equating
the mouse with efficiency and

2089
02:00:45,929 --> 02:00:52,019
video editing. No, no. And
there's no reason for me to do

2090
02:00:52,019 --> 02:00:53,039
that. No, I

2091
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,440
Adam Curry: don't recall that
either. I don't, why would I

2092
02:00:55,470 --> 02:00:56,280
know no.

2093
02:00:56,580 --> 02:00:58,890
John C Dvorak: Out of the blue.
I don't talk about the mouse. I

2094
02:00:58,890 --> 02:01:01,530
usually just defend myself over
the no evidence.

2095
02:01:01,559 --> 02:01:04,079
Adam Curry: I defend you. I
defend you over the no evidence

2096
02:01:04,079 --> 02:01:04,559
comment.

2097
02:01:04,589 --> 02:01:05,699
John C Dvorak: Well, you're a
good man.

2098
02:01:05,730 --> 02:01:08,670
Adam Curry: Well, I love you. I
mean, we're not friends. We're

2099
02:01:08,670 --> 02:01:13,080
not friends or anything on like,
chat. GPT friends. We're not

2100
02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:14,220
friends. Wow.

2101
02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:19,110
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no. Did
that. What you said earlier, I

2102
02:01:19,110 --> 02:01:22,050
think is the correct assertion,
which is this is going to be

2103
02:01:22,050 --> 02:01:26,130
truth. Yeah, whether it is or
not. Yeah. And that's the

2104
02:01:26,130 --> 02:01:27,360
problem with these things.

2105
02:01:27,420 --> 02:01:29,880
Adam Curry: Yeah. Because, you
know, smart people, people I

2106
02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:32,130
know. And, and there's just one
other thing, since we're on the

2107
02:01:32,130 --> 02:01:37,650
tech talk here for a second. I'm
learning now that all phones

2108
02:01:37,650 --> 02:01:41,220
with cameras, phones with
cameras, but there's been some

2109
02:01:41,220 --> 02:01:45,270
specific research done on
Samsung, without your knowledge,

2110
02:01:45,300 --> 02:01:49,290
or I presume Without You by you
opting into it, who knows what

2111
02:01:49,290 --> 02:01:53,730
the small print is, they are not
giving a true representation of

2112
02:01:53,730 --> 02:01:57,630
the picture. They are filling in
stuff. They're smoothing out

2113
02:01:57,630 --> 02:02:01,980
stuff without a filter. They're
they're doing this by themselves

2114
02:02:01,980 --> 02:02:04,800
so that people say wow, this is
the best camera I've ever had.

2115
02:02:04,980 --> 02:02:08,550
And there was a test that was
done on with Samsung with photos

2116
02:02:08,550 --> 02:02:13,080
of the Moon using the super
telephoto lens, and then they

2117
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:17,370
start to do some deep research.
And these cameras are these

2118
02:02:17,370 --> 02:02:21,510
phones really are the cameras in
the phones the processing is is

2119
02:02:21,510 --> 02:02:24,540
just making it look prettier and
filling in bits that aren't

2120
02:02:24,540 --> 02:02:30,900
there. So not only will the
truth be fake, but everyone's

2121
02:02:30,900 --> 02:02:35,400
gonna think they look great and
they're gonna be dogs. Be dogs I

2122
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:39,420
tell you this, I think this is a
these are very, very, very bad

2123
02:02:39,420 --> 02:02:44,640
developments. You as a as a
technology commentator, I'd just

2124
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:48,210
love to have your final word on
this sucks. No. All right. And

2125
02:02:48,210 --> 02:02:50,070
with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage. So in the

2126
02:02:50,070 --> 02:02:52,710
morning to you the man who put
the C in Cardi B ladies and

2127
02:02:52,710 --> 02:02:54,510
gentlemen, please say hello to
my friend on the other end

2128
02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:56,280
friend, John

2129
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:05,520
John C Dvorak: you see boots on
the ground feed near subs in the

2130
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:09,180
water. And all the Dames and
nights out there. And in

2131
02:03:09,180 --> 02:03:11,100
Adam Curry: the mornings with
the trolls and the troll room

2132
02:03:11,100 --> 02:03:13,440
who have been quite helpful this
morning actually got a couple of

2133
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:16,920
one liners helped us out with
some terms we were stuck on. It

2134
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,050
does happen. We appreciate it.
Let's see how many

2135
02:03:24,060 --> 02:03:32,220
2282 2282 Seems pretty good, or
is that typical for a Sunday?

2136
02:03:32,580 --> 02:03:34,590
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
that's typical for Sunday and

2137
02:03:34,590 --> 02:03:38,430
it's going to drop to 19 Five
within the next five years

2138
02:03:38,430 --> 02:03:38,790
already

2139
02:03:38,790 --> 02:03:43,770
Adam Curry: 20 to 51 and we're
dropping 20 to 19 because people

2140
02:03:43,770 --> 02:03:47,340
just leave like oh, I don't
donate so why would I listen to

2141
02:03:47,340 --> 02:03:50,730
anyone else donate even though
it's great content? No. Let's

2142
02:03:50,730 --> 02:03:51,390
just go

2143
02:03:51,870 --> 02:03:54,420
John C Dvorak: 20 what somebody
said in the in the no agenda

2144
02:03:54,420 --> 02:03:58,170
social know what they they asked
the question. They're leaving.

2145
02:03:58,560 --> 02:03:59,880
Where are they going?

2146
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:05,070
Adam Curry: Now that's a good
question. Where are they? What

2147
02:04:05,070 --> 02:04:08,790
are they doing? Oh, time to do
something more important. 2207

2148
02:04:09,150 --> 02:04:09,690
We're going down

2149
02:04:09,690 --> 02:04:11,640
John C Dvorak: and either you
went to the kitchen to get a

2150
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:13,140
beer or something you Why would

2151
02:04:13,140 --> 02:04:16,410
Adam Curry: you leave? We don't
have to stop listening. Yeah,

2152
02:04:16,410 --> 02:04:16,740
you can

2153
02:04:16,740 --> 02:04:20,100
John C Dvorak: leave it on you
could literally literally

2154
02:04:20,130 --> 02:04:20,760
quitting

2155
02:04:20,790 --> 02:04:23,130
Adam Curry: Yeah, like oh no,
they're gonna talk about

2156
02:04:23,130 --> 02:04:26,730
donations cold. Let's stop
listen, I can't hear it's going

2157
02:04:26,730 --> 02:04:30,420
to hurt my ears. 2196 What did
you call it as going down to

2158
02:04:30,450 --> 02:04:33,810
John C Dvorak: I said 1990 and
500k We'll keep our eye on it.

2159
02:04:35,010 --> 02:04:36,870
Adam Curry: As you just
mentioned no agenda social.com

2160
02:04:36,870 --> 02:04:40,710
Another free value for value
service. Even though everyone

2161
02:04:40,710 --> 02:04:43,680
believes Erina should be taking
some value for value for running

2162
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:46,860
it from his house and
maintaining it for foreigners

2163
02:04:46,860 --> 02:04:48,480
John C Dvorak: that kind of guy.
He's a good guy. Yes.

2164
02:04:48,510 --> 02:04:53,130
Adam Curry: He doesn't quit. Now
imagine imagine Aaron donation

2165
02:04:53,130 --> 02:04:55,800
segment Yeah, imagine Aaron said
hey, I just quit and with the

2166
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:59,190
thing. I'm done you know go
pound sand get get a get an

2167
02:04:59,190 --> 02:05:02,010
account somewhere else. No, no,
no, no, no people would lose

2168
02:05:02,010 --> 02:05:06,480
their crap. No, but that's not
what happens. Because Aaron was

2169
02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:10,020
a good guy. You can follow Adam
and Og on the social.com

2170
02:05:10,020 --> 02:05:12,540
jumpseat of work at no gender
social.com. And of course, you

2171
02:05:12,540 --> 02:05:17,460
can participate in the troll
room chrome.io We recommend a

2172
02:05:17,460 --> 02:05:21,540
modern podcast up, get it from
podcast apps.com If you get one

2173
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that actually the two that are
working full on now, in the way

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that we designed, it is pod
verse and podcast addict, you

2175
02:05:28,350 --> 02:05:31,020
get a batching, you'll get
notified when we start the show

2176
02:05:31,020 --> 02:05:33,960
live, you get the troll room in
there the stream. And of course,

2177
02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:35,760
you can listen all your
podcasts, including this one

2178
02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:39,900
right in that same app. You can
move all your subscriptions

2179
02:05:39,900 --> 02:05:45,420
over, it's all open. It's all
part of part of my work as as an

2180
02:05:45,420 --> 02:05:49,500
investor in technology, and
whatever that was. And of

2181
02:05:49,500 --> 02:05:53,070
course, we have artists who we
adore, the artists always make

2182
02:05:53,070 --> 02:05:55,680
something fresh and new for us.
For every single episode. You

2183
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:59,280
can follow along at Dojo to art
generator.com. Or again, in

2184
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those new podcast apps. We have
chapters with art that rotates

2185
02:06:03,270 --> 02:06:06,060
Dred Scott does all that for
this show, and for many others,

2186
02:06:06,060 --> 02:06:09,030
and we appreciate that. And we
thank our artists who we picked

2187
02:06:09,030 --> 02:06:13,290
for the last episode capitalist
agenda, no stranger, no stranger

2188
02:06:13,290 --> 02:06:19,410
to the no agenda arts podium.
And I think there was I hate to

2189
02:06:19,410 --> 02:06:22,740
say this, but there was kind of
a lack in general of art. And

2190
02:06:22,740 --> 02:06:26,820
his just stood out this was the
TV with the all seeing eye with

2191
02:06:26,820 --> 02:06:31,500
the with the second world kind
of legs. Would you call those

2192
02:06:31,500 --> 02:06:35,640
you call those cheesecake legs?
I guess? That is fair. Would

2193
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:36,360
that be fair?

2194
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:41,130
John C Dvorak: No. It was just a
good leggy, leggy dancing box.

2195
02:06:41,130 --> 02:06:41,550
Yes.

2196
02:06:41,970 --> 02:06:45,510
Adam Curry: Because the stuff we
had was a blow up doll with a

2197
02:06:45,510 --> 02:06:51,330
blow up jet. We had in the same
goat. We had.

2198
02:06:51,660 --> 02:06:54,600
John C Dvorak: It was the
Godfather logo as the Biden

2199
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:55,260
family.

2200
02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:59,130
Adam Curry: Yes, exactly. The
Biden's, which has kind of been

2201
02:06:59,130 --> 02:07:02,220
done. And then there was a
really, I mean, we're not going

2202
02:07:02,220 --> 02:07:07,620
to we rarely use pictures.
Certainly Joe Biden as the crime

2203
02:07:07,620 --> 02:07:11,790
boss, which I didn't quite I
mean, it was a comic strip

2204
02:07:11,790 --> 02:07:12,390
blogger.

2205
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:17,100
John C Dvorak: Ai July again, it
violated the rule of unpleasant,

2206
02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:21,660
Adam Curry: unpleasant chest.
Comic blogger also had someone

2207
02:07:21,690 --> 02:07:23,760
peeing on a Russian jet.

2208
02:07:24,450 --> 02:07:26,550
John C Dvorak: That's the
classic little boy ping that you

2209
02:07:26,550 --> 02:07:29,400
see in the back. Yeah, yeah,
Dan's

2210
02:07:29,490 --> 02:07:31,920
Adam Curry: a couple of build
back better.

2211
02:07:33,030 --> 02:07:34,050
John C Dvorak: No, there was
nothing.

2212
02:07:34,590 --> 02:07:38,730
Adam Curry: Not much honestly.
Not much, which is higher a

2213
02:07:38,730 --> 02:07:43,020
chang now Thompson Neil.
Company. No one knows who Connie

2214
02:07:43,020 --> 02:07:46,590
Chung is anymore. Although they
are long gone. Lots of people

2215
02:07:46,590 --> 02:07:47,610
know Hogan's Heroes

2216
02:07:48,420 --> 02:07:49,680
John C Dvorak: yes they do.

2217
02:07:49,710 --> 02:07:52,740
Adam Curry: That has not stopped
I'm so I'm so embarrassed about

2218
02:07:52,740 --> 02:07:58,230
that call. And that was that was
I think that's what we got right

2219
02:07:58,230 --> 02:08:00,780
there was was there anything
else we missed down below? Man?

2220
02:08:00,780 --> 02:08:05,880
It's raining like crazy here.
Figures I go to Jamaica. Whoo.

2221
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:06,330
rain.

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02:08:08,190 --> 02:08:09,810
John C Dvorak: It's raining.
Just pouring.

2223
02:08:09,990 --> 02:08:13,800
Adam Curry: It's it stopped a
little bit. I mean, it's, it's

2224
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:17,130
local, and it moves around is a
tropical island would expect it

2225
02:08:17,130 --> 02:08:20,160
to happen. So yes, tropical
rain. Now it is. Yeah, but it's

2226
02:08:20,160 --> 02:08:24,870
still wet. Like any other rain.
So thank you very much. Remember

2227
02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:28,770
the capitalist agenda. 2101 the
shaming is working. John,

2228
02:08:28,770 --> 02:08:31,860
they're hanging out that we
haven't even cracked 2000 yet.

2229
02:08:31,860 --> 02:08:32,850
That's very impressive.

2230
02:08:33,570 --> 02:08:34,530
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna be
wrong.

2231
02:08:34,590 --> 02:08:36,990
Adam Curry: Thank you to all of
the artists who submit and are

2232
02:08:36,990 --> 02:08:40,380
submitting right now as again,
you're going to submit, submit,

2233
02:08:40,830 --> 02:08:47,190
submit, submit to us. And submit
to our Oh, the keeper says it's

2234
02:08:47,190 --> 02:08:49,860
been raining for two hours. Now
she's listening live. Of course,

2235
02:08:49,860 --> 02:08:54,540
she's sheltering in place, no
doubt. Thank you. Again, we of

2236
02:08:54,540 --> 02:08:57,600
course, we appreciate it. And we
do provide this feedback because

2237
02:08:57,630 --> 02:09:00,210
we want you to be better
artists, not just for us. But

2238
02:09:00,210 --> 02:09:03,420
for those who are professionals
and never get any kind of this

2239
02:09:03,420 --> 02:09:05,640
feedback. We give it to you. We
give it to you, honestly, and we

2240
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:09,540
love you for that. So we're not
being douchebags this is this is

2241
02:09:09,540 --> 02:09:13,230
an actual service, it's value
for value. Even if you don't get

2242
02:09:13,230 --> 02:09:16,680
chosen, we'll be happy to
critique you, or criticize as

2243
02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:21,000
you prefer. Value for value
you've talked about a couple

2244
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:23,970
times, that means we appreciate
your time, talent and treasure

2245
02:09:24,270 --> 02:09:28,080
in any manner that you support
us. And of course, we do need

2246
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:31,770
treasure you you notice we have
one break today, which means the

2247
02:09:31,770 --> 02:09:35,430
actual physical number of
donations are right back down to

2248
02:09:35,430 --> 02:09:39,840
where they were in February. So
we'll start with our executive

2249
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:42,090
and Associate Executive
producers. John, you have

2250
02:09:42,090 --> 02:09:44,520
handled this first one
throughout the past few days. So

2251
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:48,540
maybe you can give us this
instant donation, I believe tell

2252
02:09:48,540 --> 02:09:49,320
us what's going on.

2253
02:09:49,769 --> 02:09:53,279
John C Dvorak: Well, we have a
issue with this particular donor

2254
02:09:53,699 --> 02:09:57,449
who will be knighted octothorpe
and that's what we will call him

2255
02:09:57,479 --> 02:10:02,609
sure octothorpe And what he did
was, uh, you should be able to

2256
02:10:02,609 --> 02:10:06,839
look at his note because I think
it's scanned. There what he did

2257
02:10:06,839 --> 02:10:11,759
is he came in you should look at
it. He came in with $1,000, no

2258
02:10:11,759 --> 02:10:14,039
jingles, no karma, but when it
has to do

2259
02:10:16,139 --> 02:10:17,609
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, no, this
is not okay.

2260
02:10:18,300 --> 02:10:22,830
John C Dvorak: No five donations
over the next five weeks, which

2261
02:10:22,830 --> 02:10:27,750
we're all promoting Jesus Christ
as your Lord and Savior with a,

2262
02:10:28,110 --> 02:10:33,360
which is fine, I don't mind. But
it was the idea of adding.

2263
02:10:34,319 --> 02:10:36,329
Adam Curry: Let me let me just
read what he says specifically,

2264
02:10:36,899 --> 02:10:41,339
each number is a note for a
different show $200 per show for

2265
02:10:41,339 --> 02:10:47,939
each note 1000 for five notes,
this explain. I just want to set

2266
02:10:47,939 --> 02:10:51,839
this straight. We provide a
value, which we think is

2267
02:10:51,839 --> 02:10:55,889
valuable, you receive that you
determine if it's valuable for

2268
02:10:55,889 --> 02:10:59,909
you. So we've already given you
value. This and we were happy to

2269
02:10:59,909 --> 02:11:04,439
read a note and a thank you. But
we don't necessarily have to be,

2270
02:11:04,739 --> 02:11:07,469
you know, jumping around and
doing stuff for you.

2271
02:11:07,499 --> 02:11:10,859
John C Dvorak: We don't have a
traffic department for starters,

2272
02:11:11,459 --> 02:11:14,909
which takes ads and places them
here and there. This is a bunch

2273
02:11:14,909 --> 02:11:18,659
of advertisements. And I said
no, no. Becca said no, this is a

2274
02:11:18,659 --> 02:11:21,659
bunch of ads that you're doing.
And the worst part is you have a

2275
02:11:21,869 --> 02:11:26,399
text to phone number requests.
And each one of these ads so

2276
02:11:26,399 --> 02:11:29,789
you're supposed to text to a
phone number. We just got one of

2277
02:11:29,789 --> 02:11:34,079
them. Jesus to a phone number.
Yeah, by the way. And number

2278
02:11:34,079 --> 02:11:37,769
three, you've got the wrong
number, just for your own

2279
02:11:37,769 --> 02:11:41,009
information. And so I said no,
you can't We can't do this. This

2280
02:11:41,009 --> 02:11:44,069
is just a bunch of ads that
you're doing. And by the way, I

2281
02:11:44,879 --> 02:11:50,699
were talking about this over
dinner and and Brennan jaisa. My

2282
02:11:50,699 --> 02:11:53,879
wife Ramapo, I'm sorry,
immediately doesn't take

2283
02:11:54,179 --> 02:11:59,489
healings right away immediately.
And Jay says no, no, no. I don't

2284
02:11:59,489 --> 02:12:02,459
know why she said that. I said
no. Yes, yes, yes. And then so

2285
02:12:02,459 --> 02:12:06,299
he reported that it sends to it
some church in the Midwest, it

2286
02:12:06,299 --> 02:12:09,929
seems. And when you text you get
a book, they're gonna send you a

2287
02:12:09,929 --> 02:12:11,999
book and you're on a mailing
list. I mean, there's a mailing

2288
02:12:11,999 --> 02:12:16,619
list deal, and which I'm very,
always skeptical when I see him

2289
02:12:16,979 --> 02:12:19,679
buy. So I sent him a notice as
well. And he got, you know, so

2290
02:12:19,679 --> 02:12:22,049
when I arrived, he says, you
know, if you don't want to, if

2291
02:12:22,049 --> 02:12:26,039
you don't like Jesus kind of
told me, and then you said it'd

2292
02:12:26,039 --> 02:12:27,719
be actually more appropriate?
No, I

2293
02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:32,190
Adam Curry: said, I said, bro,
Jesus does not need any

2294
02:12:32,190 --> 02:12:35,670
marketing. I think he's just
fine by himself.

2295
02:12:37,350 --> 02:12:39,720
John C Dvorak: Which I thought
was good. And so so I don't know

2296
02:12:39,720 --> 02:12:42,690
what he's gonna tell us to shove
it or I don't know what but we

2297
02:12:42,780 --> 02:12:46,350
got to I decided, well, let's
just, we'll do a night em and

2298
02:12:46,350 --> 02:12:49,680
then see what if he has a note
he wants to send us we'll send

2299
02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:51,900
it but please don't do stuff
like this

2300
02:12:51,930 --> 02:12:56,130
Adam Curry: when and we really
do appreciate the support, which

2301
02:12:56,130 --> 02:13:01,110
is returning value for what we
already gave to you. And you

2302
02:13:01,110 --> 02:13:05,280
determine that to be this. So
he's on the podium. Yeah. Oh,

2303
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:09,000
yeah. And it's like one of the
few I think today on the podium.

2304
02:13:09,870 --> 02:13:13,710
I think let me see. We have no
we have we have two more. Okay,

2305
02:13:13,770 --> 02:13:14,100
good.

2306
02:13:14,310 --> 02:13:16,260
John C Dvorak: Well, Elliot
Johnson is next on the list from

2307
02:13:16,260 --> 02:13:19,830
Morristown, Arizona. He came up
with the normal as normal ish,

2308
02:13:20,550 --> 02:13:24,870
three, three 3.33. And he says
hello crackpot. And buzzkill

2309
02:13:24,870 --> 02:13:29,400
this donation brings me tonight
His so he's a night too. I like

2310
02:13:29,400 --> 02:13:33,870
to be known as Sir smelly that
sweaty night of the Sonoran

2311
02:13:33,870 --> 02:13:39,390
Desert. Please wish my mom Susan
a happy birthday and a 22nd.

2312
02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:44,760
Assuming that she's on the list,
I'll check I'll check. No, thank

2313
02:13:44,760 --> 02:13:47,580
you for your courage. No jingles
but yet, karma?

2314
02:13:48,420 --> 02:13:56,490
Adam Curry: Well, okay, you got
that. You've got Ah, yes, she

2315
02:13:56,490 --> 02:14:01,410
is. She is on the birthday list.
No worries there. Susan Johnson

2316
02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:05,100
in McKinney, Texas. 333 dot 33.
Love the show. Appreciate your

2317
02:14:05,130 --> 02:14:11,850
epic insights. Glad to support
as it is the pot at as it glad

2318
02:14:11,850 --> 02:14:16,920
to support as it Oh, as it is. I
think she put a word in there.

2319
02:14:17,070 --> 02:14:20,520
Glad to support it as the
podcast is of great value. May I

2320
02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:22,890
please have a double dose of
goat karma?

2321
02:14:22,920 --> 02:14:26,340
John C Dvorak: Well, I use your
one word from is to it. And it

2322
02:14:26,340 --> 02:14:29,040
just you can't read it. It's
Unbeliev especially during cold

2323
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:29,580
reads.

2324
02:14:29,610 --> 02:14:33,510
Adam Curry: Yeah, that is true.
Yes. I'm not a big fan of doing

2325
02:14:33,510 --> 02:14:35,880
double karmas because before you
know what people have triple

2326
02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:38,820
karma isn't quadruple karma. But
we'll do it for you. Of course

2327
02:14:38,820 --> 02:14:44,400
we'll do that Susan. You've got
karma. And we'll just call the

2328
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:48,090
second goat karma, which is your
second request. Request that to

2329
02:14:48,090 --> 02:14:49,950
be a health karma. So here you
go.

2330
02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:51,060
Unknown: You've got

2331
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:55,230
Adam Curry: karma for her and
her entire family. Thank you

2332
02:14:55,230 --> 02:14:55,830
very much.

2333
02:14:56,160 --> 02:14:59,130
John C Dvorak: So Priscilla
O'Leary comes in with the $333

2334
02:14:59,130 --> 02:15:02,700
from Ramona, Calif I have no
note from her and I can't find a

2335
02:15:02,700 --> 02:15:03,390
note from her.

2336
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:06,450
Adam Curry: Yeah, we do have the
special double up karma for that

2337
02:15:06,450 --> 02:15:12,780
which will give her he's got
karma which is special special

2338
02:15:12,780 --> 02:15:17,040
for people with no no special.
It's special. Even sprag Sprog

2339
02:15:17,070 --> 02:15:24,270
Sprog Kennewick Washington 333.
Birthday switcheroo does that

2340
02:15:24,270 --> 02:15:27,240
mean you switch birthdays with
someone? Please credit this

2341
02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:30,030
executive thought and here we go
please credit this executive

2342
02:15:30,030 --> 02:15:34,980
producer ship to my best pal
Kyle. He Boschi on his 50th trip

2343
02:15:35,010 --> 02:15:40,680
around the sun we need a douche
bag call out for J man and not

2344
02:15:40,680 --> 02:15:45,900
Mike hunt. No jingles health
karma for Laura and Maddy. Thank

2345
02:15:45,900 --> 02:15:49,860
you very much. We got that for
you, man. You've got karma

2346
02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:56,550
John C Dvorak: Well, the douche
bag is from Matt not Mike hunt

2347
02:15:57,090 --> 02:15:59,340
Adam Curry: here but I think
that's was it one name or two

2348
02:15:59,340 --> 02:15:59,910
names.

2349
02:16:00,540 --> 02:16:04,740
John C Dvorak: But Jay man and
Matt. Well, whenever has done

2350
02:16:04,740 --> 02:16:11,640
has put the mic punt in there as
a gag Yeah. But whatever. Okay,

2351
02:16:11,910 --> 02:16:16,860
it that was botched. He has to
donate again. Yeah, if you're

2352
02:16:16,860 --> 02:16:21,810
flying not in Meredith New
Hampshire. I'm taking flying

2353
02:16:21,810 --> 02:16:24,840
that Jr. on college tours and
we're getting creative with our

2354
02:16:24,840 --> 02:16:28,920
pronouns. Can we get a bust him
in the mouth and a goat karma?

2355
02:16:30,330 --> 02:16:38,910
Please call out. Bruce at Bruce.
Bruce as a douchebag. And he

2356
02:16:38,910 --> 02:16:42,300
better be at that OKC meet up
love is lit. Okay. We'll

2357
02:16:42,300 --> 02:16:45,000
Adam Curry: give you this one by
request.

2358
02:16:46,350 --> 02:16:50,760
Unknown: Our formula is this. We
go out. We get people in the

2359
02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:51,030
mouth.

2360
02:16:54,540 --> 02:16:55,290
You've got

2361
02:17:00,570 --> 02:17:05,100
Adam Curry: we've got anonymous
I'm sorry. Yes. Anonymous from

2362
02:17:05,100 --> 02:17:12,390
Columbus. What? Yeah, anonymous
from Columbus, Ohio. 314. Dot 16

2363
02:17:13,350 --> 02:17:18,720
says anonymous pi donation. I'm
sorry, isn't it 314 17 Three or

2364
02:17:18,720 --> 02:17:21,030
John C Dvorak: 401? Firewall
three or four wins? I think is

2365
02:17:21,030 --> 02:17:22,920
true. Going forward. Five wins
is I don't know.

2366
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:26,400
Adam Curry: I thought I'm pretty
sure pious three. One 4.17

2367
02:17:26,400 --> 02:17:27,720
blahdy, blahdy, blahdy, blah,

2368
02:17:28,440 --> 02:17:29,670
John C Dvorak: whatever it was,
it was Oh

2369
02:17:29,670 --> 02:17:35,100
Adam Curry: no. 31431 3.14159
would be

2370
02:17:35,309 --> 02:17:37,709
John C Dvorak: 159116 will be
rounded up.

2371
02:17:37,709 --> 02:17:42,299
Adam Curry: Okay. We'll let you
slide. Got it. Let me slide. Let

2372
02:17:42,299 --> 02:17:43,709
me slide for being Ryan

2373
02:17:43,710 --> 02:17:46,770
John C Dvorak: journeys. Next on
the list and he says Ryan Turney

2374
02:17:46,770 --> 02:17:50,580
says Stevens, Viva City,
Virginia. You would know where

2375
02:17:50,580 --> 02:17:54,000
that is 302 66 with this
donation I can fully join my

2376
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:56,190
father at the round table.
Thanks for introducing me to no

2377
02:17:56,190 --> 02:18:01,620
agenda. Sir. Not Jake. Please
Knight me sir Dougherty of the

2378
02:18:01,650 --> 02:18:05,700
Northern Shenandoah Valley.
Thank you for your courage. John

2379
02:18:05,700 --> 02:18:09,450
and Adam. Can I get some Jakob
karma, please? Of course.

2380
02:18:09,870 --> 02:18:10,860
Adam Curry: You have it on tap?

2381
02:18:11,070 --> 02:18:15,540
Unknown: You've got ah Harma

2382
02:18:19,680 --> 02:18:27,210
Adam Curry: one moment 1911 What
did you call it as

2383
02:18:27,540 --> 02:18:28,860
John C Dvorak: 1950

2384
02:18:28,920 --> 02:18:30,780
Adam Curry: They've already
usurped you.

2385
02:18:32,730 --> 02:18:34,440
John C Dvorak: We've already
gotten past my prediction.

2386
02:18:34,590 --> 02:18:37,230
Adam Curry: First Associate
Executive Producer goes to Chad

2387
02:18:37,230 --> 02:18:42,780
Finkbeiner in Highland heights
Ohio to 35 dot 55. No notes so

2388
02:18:42,780 --> 02:18:45,540
we'll call that a double of
karma for you sir. You've got

2389
02:18:47,640 --> 02:18:48,270
karma.

2390
02:18:50,760 --> 02:18:54,570
John C Dvorak: Sir Cal comes in
from Northville Michigan. 323456

2391
02:18:54,600 --> 02:18:58,710
newsletter stops. Your
newsletter stops after a week

2392
02:18:58,890 --> 02:19:02,580
signed up many times but always
the same story. No problems with

2393
02:19:02,580 --> 02:19:06,480
other podcasts like that.
Unrelenting one. But those guys

2394
02:19:06,510 --> 02:19:11,400
got their shit together. Love
you guys. Sir. Cal of lavender

2395
02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:12,540
blossoms.org.

2396
02:19:12,630 --> 02:19:13,380
Adam Curry: This is odd.

2397
02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:17,400
John C Dvorak: I have no idea
why he's not getting the

2398
02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:21,000
newsletter consistently
unrelated people. Every time I

2399
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:24,450
bitched about this by the way,
someone says I've gotten a

2400
02:19:24,450 --> 02:19:28,140
newsletter perfectly for the
last 10 years. It's never

2401
02:19:28,140 --> 02:19:33,870
failed. And then I get this so I
don't know what I mean. It's a

2402
02:19:33,870 --> 02:19:37,680
It's I gotta say it's sort of
cows on end of it, then. Well,

2403
02:19:37,680 --> 02:19:37,890
we

2404
02:19:37,890 --> 02:19:40,770
Adam Curry: love sir cow. Do he
should be getting the

2405
02:19:40,770 --> 02:19:43,530
newsletter, week after week
Lavender blossoms.org If you

2406
02:19:43,530 --> 02:19:46,740
want some outstanding email
address for that, that's what

2407
02:19:46,740 --> 02:19:50,220
I'm wondering. I'm wondering
what it is it Gmail is a Yahoo

2408
02:19:50,220 --> 02:19:51,210
was at AOL. Well,

2409
02:19:51,210 --> 02:19:54,390
John C Dvorak: sometimes it's
MailChimp, MailChimp, if it even

2410
02:19:54,420 --> 02:19:58,710
thinks that you're using a
customized email just for the

2411
02:19:58,710 --> 02:20:05,040
newsletter. Like newsletters for
john@gmail.com Something like

2412
02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:06,510
that. It'll block it.

2413
02:20:06,870 --> 02:20:09,810
Adam Curry: MailChimp will do
that. Yeah, why wouldn't Why

2414
02:20:09,810 --> 02:20:12,240
would MailChimp do that
MailChimp, it makes us think

2415
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:14,370
about it. Mild, MailChimp,

2416
02:20:14,370 --> 02:20:16,920
John C Dvorak: MailChimp,
MailChimp.

2417
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:19,590
Adam Curry: Okay, everybody got
to come back and

2418
02:20:20,040 --> 02:20:22,410
John C Dvorak: finish this off
with Andrew Baker of Stafford,

2419
02:20:22,410 --> 02:20:25,530
Missouri. 200 bucks. And that's
our group of Associate Executive

2420
02:20:25,530 --> 02:20:29,820
producers and producers for
show. And executive producers

2421
02:20:29,820 --> 02:20:34,380
for show 1539 5040 coming up,
that's kind of interesting. So

2422
02:20:34,380 --> 02:20:36,870
let's look forward to that and
want to thank all these folks

2423
02:20:36,870 --> 02:20:37,830
who are helping us Yes,

2424
02:20:37,830 --> 02:20:40,080
Adam Curry: and of course, these
are forever credits, which means

2425
02:20:40,110 --> 02:20:44,130
they are with you like, like
that one sock. You never get out

2426
02:20:44,130 --> 02:20:47,310
of your drawer. But the
difference is Hollywood bigwigs

2427
02:20:47,310 --> 02:20:49,890
will be impressed with your
executive or Associate Executive

2428
02:20:49,890 --> 02:20:53,310
Producer title go to imdb.com if
you want to see how many people

2429
02:20:53,310 --> 02:20:56,400
have them in there, and some of
them are big Hollywood bigwigs

2430
02:20:56,640 --> 02:21:00,780
you put on your LinkedIn on your
resume. It's unlike any

2431
02:21:00,780 --> 02:21:04,350
Hollywood phony. By the way. If
someone questions your credit,

2432
02:21:04,350 --> 02:21:07,110
we will get on the phone with
them and we or email I've done

2433
02:21:07,110 --> 02:21:11,430
that many times. We will vouch
for you. We've got knighting

2434
02:21:11,430 --> 02:21:13,680
ceremony, birthdays coming up.
John is going to take us through

2435
02:21:13,680 --> 02:21:15,630
to the 50s right now.

2436
02:21:17,130 --> 02:21:20,670
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm going
to do that. Starting with Dame

2437
02:21:20,670 --> 02:21:29,820
Moneypenny in Davis, California.
12333. Dustin Wasserman in

2438
02:21:29,820 --> 02:21:39,330
Ashland, Oregon 101 50 He says
he uses 101.5x for helping me go

2439
02:21:39,330 --> 02:21:43,170
cold turkey on pod spending you
Nissa T douching? Is

2440
02:21:45,960 --> 02:21:50,160
Adam Curry: de Deus saving lives
saving lives by slowing down

2441
02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:50,880
you're listening.

2442
02:21:51,119 --> 02:21:55,619
John C Dvorak: Nick Allen says
oh Salt Lake City $100 Anonymous

2443
02:21:55,619 --> 02:21:59,549
in Maple Valley Washington 100
East and a night cute little

2444
02:21:59,549 --> 02:22:05,039
card in and just a thank is very
nicely we're gonna put some more

2445
02:22:05,039 --> 02:22:09,029
to D to karma at the end to free
him if you don't mind. Okay, I

2446
02:22:09,029 --> 02:22:13,679
got it. Paul from surpass
surpass solutions in Toronto,

2447
02:22:13,679 --> 02:22:23,009
Ontario. 100. JJ Welch in
Missoula, Montana. 808 Yeah, he

2448
02:22:23,009 --> 02:22:30,119
needs a D douching. You've been
de deuced the string continues

2449
02:22:30,119 --> 02:22:34,949
with Kevin McLaughlin and Locust
North Carolina Sir Kevin 808.

2450
02:22:35,459 --> 02:22:42,179
Dame Chrissy x in Springfield,
Virginia who comes in with 808

2451
02:22:42,179 --> 02:22:45,569
and she's got a bunch of
interesting read her note. I

2452
02:22:45,569 --> 02:22:48,929
mean, just read it to yourself
as soon as a thing. She says I

2453
02:22:48,929 --> 02:22:52,049
may not be the first trans
producer but at least I am your

2454
02:22:52,049 --> 02:22:55,199
favorite. I think we talked
about Chrissy X before

2455
02:22:55,230 --> 02:22:56,910
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a
second. This is that's very

2456
02:22:56,910 --> 02:22:59,820
interesting. What she's what
she's right. She needs the 808

2457
02:22:59,820 --> 02:23:05,400
Carmen to speed up the estrogen
doing its work. Okay. All right.

2458
02:23:05,400 --> 02:23:05,520
We're

2459
02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:09,540
John C Dvorak: here. Matthew
elder in Edmond, Oklahoma. Seven

2460
02:23:09,540 --> 02:23:15,390
7.4. Nice. We had to put an F
cancer karma. Let's do it.

2461
02:23:15,390 --> 02:23:23,400
Right. Father in law, my cancer.
You've got karma. Father long

2462
02:23:23,400 --> 02:23:28,740
like yeah, we got anonymous and
Metcalf, Ontario. 70. In pesos,

2463
02:23:29,040 --> 02:23:35,850
Cole and Casa Grande, Arizona
6633. Kevin O'Brien is Chicago

2464
02:23:35,850 --> 02:23:40,800
Illinois. 606 realignment of the
net Raleigh. I don't have the

2465
02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:43,800
whole thing going on here but
Ronnie Hawk yet Robbie Hawker,

2466
02:23:43,800 --> 02:23:47,670
really hot. Yeah, Raleigh hog.
5678 sir speed bump in

2467
02:23:47,670 --> 02:23:53,460
Plainville, Connecticut 5663 Get
up. Dean Roker 5510 Sarah

2468
02:23:53,460 --> 02:23:56,880
Steinle in in Brentwood,
Tennessee Stein went

2469
02:23:56,880 --> 02:23:59,550
Adam Curry: online she put a
print on sign line so

2470
02:24:02,010 --> 02:24:07,020
John C Dvorak: funny. Stein line
if you want 15 Meyer in Casa

2471
02:24:07,020 --> 02:24:12,360
Grande, Arizona, David Diller
and he came in with 51 David

2472
02:24:12,360 --> 02:24:17,940
DeLorean Santa Clarita,
California 5033 is a switcheroo.

2473
02:24:17,940 --> 02:24:21,600
Is it be knighthood campaign
contributions? No. Oh, come on.

2474
02:24:22,770 --> 02:24:27,420
Steven Chu Mac in Xenia, Ohio 50
And the following facts are

2475
02:24:27,420 --> 02:24:32,490
going to all be 50s Here we go.
Nathan Cochran, Franklin,

2476
02:24:32,490 --> 02:24:36,870
Tennessee to Tiana Prince in
Hollywood, Florida. Peter odo

2477
02:24:36,870 --> 02:24:44,280
and rich New York Tim Tom. Then
straw in Hengelo. Netherlands

2478
02:24:44,310 --> 02:24:46,590
Adam Curry: he donated last he's
just doing it to master the

2479
02:24:46,980 --> 02:24:52,740
veins to I was mean it's fame
stra Tom Fame star in Hengelo.

2480
02:24:53,310 --> 02:24:57,600
John C Dvorak: Hangar low
hanging low. Hanging on low

2481
02:24:57,630 --> 02:25:02,520
Samantha Lou Luma Do in
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

2482
02:25:02,550 --> 02:25:07,230
Alexander vert de HO in Gig
Harbor Washington. Scott

2483
02:25:07,230 --> 02:25:12,690
lavender Scott in Montgomery,
Texas. Gadget freak 10 in

2484
02:25:12,720 --> 02:25:18,450
Western Springs, Illinois.
Crystal furniture in pilot

2485
02:25:18,450 --> 02:25:23,310
point, Texas, sir broken glass
and Teresa Wisconsin, Sir Andrew

2486
02:25:23,310 --> 02:25:28,560
gusik in Greensboro, North
Carolina, Joe Oswald in Lithia.

2487
02:25:28,560 --> 02:25:35,430
Florida Josh shad sir Josh, Shad
zur in Spring, Texas, Steven

2488
02:25:35,430 --> 02:25:43,680
crummy in Alka Hone, Matt a bow,
bow bulky, bulky and Minnetonka,

2489
02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:49,530
Minnesota nuts. Case in case and
Grover in nolensville, Tennessee

2490
02:25:49,530 --> 02:25:52,980
John Ford in McKinney, Texas
service but the mighty in

2491
02:25:52,980 --> 02:26:02,700
Marietta, Georgia, Pope de Clyst
ciclismo ciclismo in Rio Verde,

2492
02:26:02,700 --> 02:26:07,650
Arizona and last on the list is
surgery wing and Roth in the

2493
02:26:07,650 --> 02:26:10,950
famous town of Saugus,
California want to thank these

2494
02:26:10,950 --> 02:26:13,560
people for making this show? A
reality?

2495
02:26:13,620 --> 02:26:17,190
Adam Curry: Yes. And we needed a
Karma it was a special kind of

2496
02:26:17,190 --> 02:26:20,190
karma. Just a regular karma we
given out there was a Karma

2497
02:26:20,190 --> 02:26:23,010
involved. Here's a comment that
was involved. We got it. You've

2498
02:26:23,010 --> 02:26:28,380
got karma. Thank you again, to
everybody who support us of

2499
02:26:28,380 --> 02:26:32,430
course our executive producers,
Associate Executive producers we

2500
02:26:32,460 --> 02:26:36,240
really appreciate you all the
way up to $50. Under 50 We do

2501
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:39,180
not mention for reasons of
anonymity also people are on the

2502
02:26:39,960 --> 02:26:43,140
multiple kinds of sustaining
donations which are

2503
02:26:43,140 --> 02:26:46,350
subscriptions. If you'd like to
find out more it's changing

2504
02:26:46,350 --> 02:26:48,990
within 10 days so have a look at
it now for

2505
02:26:48,990 --> 02:26:51,660
Unknown: red.org/and

2506
02:26:51,720 --> 02:26:53,700
Adam Curry: A Thank you all once
again for supporting the no

2507
02:26:53,700 --> 02:26:58,020
agenda Show episode 1539 Our
formula is this.

2508
02:26:58,710 --> 02:27:01,230
Unknown: We go out we get people
in the mouth.

2509
02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:26,790
Adam Curry: 1888 left in the
troll room we'll see what comes

2510
02:27:26,790 --> 02:27:29,790
back as we are back and we got
some birthdays to celebrate sure

2511
02:27:29,790 --> 02:27:33,030
Andy of Terrigal beach says
Happy Birthday to name highly of

2512
02:27:33,030 --> 02:27:37,410
the Double D cups. I sent a
great picture of her to turn 49

2513
02:27:37,410 --> 02:27:40,590
Today, sir day with the clay
fish celebration tomorrow Elliot

2514
02:27:40,590 --> 02:27:43,560
Johnson says Happy Birthday to
his mom Susan celebrating on

2515
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:48,930
22nd day Bayshore wishes his
daughter Sarah and son Joshua

2516
02:27:48,930 --> 02:27:53,250
happy birthdays teratogens 15 on
the 22nd Joshua turns 24 on

2517
02:27:53,250 --> 02:27:58,530
March 24, and Stephen spragg
Sprog wishes his best bow Kyle

2518
02:27:59,490 --> 02:28:02,910
Eboshi Happy birthday he is
turning 50 Happy birthday from

2519
02:28:02,910 --> 02:28:07,710
everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe. We do

2520
02:28:07,710 --> 02:28:10,860
not have any title changes but
we do have a couple of nights so

2521
02:28:10,860 --> 02:28:13,560
we're excited to get them up on
the podium. Here you go. Here's

2522
02:28:13,560 --> 02:28:19,050
the blade for y'all and we got
Rs come on up. We got Elliot

2523
02:28:19,050 --> 02:28:22,590
Johnson and Ryan Tierney
gentlemen very proud to

2524
02:28:22,590 --> 02:28:25,200
pronounce the K D with the
following night names we have

2525
02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:29,670
sir aka Thorpe, sure smelly and
sweaty Knight of the sonar on

2526
02:28:29,670 --> 02:28:33,570
desert and sure Doherty of the
Northern Shenandoah Valley for

2527
02:28:33,570 --> 02:28:36,990
you we've got hookers and blow
rent boys and Chardonnay if you

2528
02:28:36,990 --> 02:28:39,450
want we got some cookies and
vodka warm beer and cold women

2529
02:28:39,450 --> 02:28:42,120
to Quito went to Kenya Polish
potato bucket diet soda and

2530
02:28:42,120 --> 02:28:44,880
video games. fish pie and
fellatio. Maybe you'd like some

2531
02:28:44,880 --> 02:28:47,610
harlots and how tall are some
Rubenesque women and Rosae vaca

2532
02:28:47,610 --> 02:28:50,670
Manila bong hits and bourbon,
sparkling cider s for ginger ale

2533
02:28:50,670 --> 02:28:53,190
and dribbles breast milk and
pablum. And of course, it's

2534
02:28:53,190 --> 02:28:56,550
always the same in every single
round table ceremony. The mutton

2535
02:28:56,550 --> 02:28:59,070
and meat and all of you can go
to the brand new website no

2536
02:28:59,070 --> 02:29:02,370
agenda rings.com And you can
give us first of all you can

2537
02:29:02,400 --> 02:29:05,280
anyone can go there and take a
look at what it is what you need

2538
02:29:05,280 --> 02:29:08,550
to participate How handsome and
or pretty they are because it

2539
02:29:08,550 --> 02:29:11,190
for nights and for dame's and we
can get you the right size and

2540
02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:14,580
get them to the right address.
Brand new website this is what's

2541
02:29:14,580 --> 02:29:17,400
going on. I mean we are
definitely upping our game here.

2542
02:29:17,670 --> 02:29:21,000
Thank you all so much for
supporting the no agenda show.

2543
02:29:21,300 --> 02:29:21,960
No one

2544
02:29:28,740 --> 02:29:34,860
I want to give a big shout out
to to Mike Stu Locke who sent me

2545
02:29:34,860 --> 02:29:39,630
a picture he says yes there is a
hard rock land based casino in

2546
02:29:39,630 --> 02:29:43,350
Gary Indiana off of the bursary
exit he held the meetup we

2547
02:29:43,350 --> 02:29:47,940
talked about on the last show.
He said no one showed up. Of

2548
02:29:47,940 --> 02:29:53,070
course it's Gary Indiana. But he
took a photo and I felt so bad

2549
02:29:53,070 --> 02:29:55,530
and he didn't mind it I
celebrate about myself and I

2550
02:29:55,530 --> 02:29:59,190
know that people need to get to
know about it. So please next

2551
02:29:59,190 --> 02:30:03,150
time he has a A meet up in Gary
Indiana. It's Gary but I like to

2552
02:30:03,150 --> 02:30:08,940
say Gary at the Hard Rock Casino
go and check them out man that

2553
02:30:08,940 --> 02:30:11,700
guy's is cool I love that he did
that anybody of course and

2554
02:30:11,700 --> 02:30:14,310
started no agenda meet up and we
have reported

2555
02:30:14,310 --> 02:30:16,140
John C Dvorak: me it was a
complete failure.

2556
02:30:17,580 --> 02:30:22,050
Adam Curry: Well, Gary is is you
know, it's kind of a you know,

2557
02:30:22,050 --> 02:30:27,330
it's where Michael Jackson was
born, but it's really kind of I

2558
02:30:27,330 --> 02:30:32,910
almost said it sketchy for was I
was at some point, but Northwest

2559
02:30:32,910 --> 02:30:35,700
Indiana um, you guys could have
done something the Indiana crew

2560
02:30:35,700 --> 02:30:38,310
was so outrageous in
Indianapolis and other places. I

2561
02:30:38,310 --> 02:30:41,250
think you really should have
checked him out. So we

2562
02:30:41,250 --> 02:30:44,190
appreciate it very much, Mike.
Thank you so much. Now we go to

2563
02:30:44,190 --> 02:30:46,350
North Idaho for the Saturday
brigade meet up before

2564
02:30:46,590 --> 02:30:48,540
Unknown: the North Idaho Sandy
brigade here once again at the

2565
02:30:48,540 --> 02:30:51,930
Selkirk GAVI and Post Falls and
we all dropped our hit a Vyvanse

2566
02:30:51,930 --> 02:30:54,510
before the beat up so we're
talking to 1.75x Hey,

2567
02:30:54,510 --> 02:30:57,630
this is red the goal to here if
it wasn't for these meetups, I'd

2568
02:30:57,630 --> 02:31:00,360
be a hermit in the hills. Does
that mean you're a leprechaun

2569
02:31:00,360 --> 02:31:01,170
sir

2570
02:31:01,200 --> 02:31:06,630
le Fox here at a great meetup
tonight and I am not the spook

2571
02:31:06,660 --> 02:31:11,340
David is David Gibson. Evidently
this is Getty definitely make

2572
02:31:11,340 --> 02:31:13,860
the drive to your next meet up
near you it's worth it

2573
02:31:13,980 --> 02:31:20,490
Adam Curry: this Meetup is
awesome I endorsed that kind of

2574
02:31:20,490 --> 02:31:23,460
sped up reading very good job
everybody. Good job indeed.

2575
02:31:23,880 --> 02:31:27,540
Coming up today, two o'clock.
Oh, it's already underway maybe

2576
02:31:27,540 --> 02:31:31,800
over the local one six Sukkot
Greta we're meeting at a gas

2577
02:31:31,800 --> 02:31:34,950
station Alex Gore main market
independence Township Michigan.

2578
02:31:35,910 --> 02:31:40,020
Probably also underway now the
central Ohio meet up pins

2579
02:31:40,020 --> 02:31:44,190
mechanical Columbus Ohio,
celebrating 105 years of time

2580
02:31:44,190 --> 02:31:46,860
zones and daylight savings to
half liter barbecue in

2581
02:31:46,860 --> 02:31:49,740
Indianapolis, Indiana. I'll
betcha that one's lit and a

2582
02:31:49,740 --> 02:31:53,340
whole list more all the way
through April 28 including

2583
02:31:53,340 --> 02:31:57,060
Germany including the
Netherlands including Canada

2584
02:31:57,060 --> 02:32:01,710
including Osaka Japan. I mean we
are live and lit everywhere with

2585
02:32:01,710 --> 02:32:04,320
these no agenda meetups they are
completely producer organized

2586
02:32:04,320 --> 02:32:08,850
you can attend one you can start
one you will meet people there

2587
02:32:08,850 --> 02:32:12,210
that you never would have
expected to talk to because

2588
02:32:12,210 --> 02:32:16,440
we're all weird, but we have all
get no nation no agenda nation

2589
02:32:16,470 --> 02:32:20,040
in common. Please go check out
no agenda meetups.com If you

2590
02:32:20,040 --> 02:32:22,950
can't find one thing or near you
start one even if it's in Gary

2591
02:32:22,950 --> 02:32:36,030
Indiana out with Tyson days
you'd be triggered. You want to

2592
02:32:36,030 --> 02:32:47,070
be where everybody feels the
same. It's like a bar. Okay, on

2593
02:32:47,070 --> 02:32:53,220
a second. See 1859 at a dropping
like flies, John. They're not

2594
02:32:53,220 --> 02:32:55,380
coming back what's going on?
They're missing the best part of

2595
02:32:55,380 --> 02:32:58,290
the show, which is of course,
the ISOs

2596
02:33:00,060 --> 02:33:03,660
John C Dvorak: and I have only
one ISO and it's attached to a

2597
02:33:03,660 --> 02:33:07,380
blooper, which I would like to
play but I like oh, let me play

2598
02:33:07,380 --> 02:33:09,990
the ISO first and then you play
the blooper. Okay,

2599
02:33:10,740 --> 02:33:11,640
Adam Curry: so here we go.

2600
02:33:12,660 --> 02:33:15,480
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just the
only one. I'm sorry. I go. Here

2601
02:33:15,480 --> 02:33:19,650
we go check your patties. Check
your Patty's

2602
02:33:20,070 --> 02:33:21,930
Adam Curry: crew is that the
mayor of New York?

2603
02:33:22,920 --> 02:33:25,410
John C Dvorak: No, it sounds
like it is a black guy but he's

2604
02:33:25,410 --> 02:33:28,230
a TV guy. Here's the blooper the
month here's how it went

2605
02:33:28,350 --> 02:33:33,270
Unknown: check your panties
about 175,000 rice. I think

2606
02:33:33,270 --> 02:33:34,980
that's supposed to be pantries

2607
02:33:37,170 --> 02:33:39,630
warn you before I saw it, and I
didn't warn you

2608
02:33:41,490 --> 02:33:45,030
Adam Curry: what was that? Check
your panties? Where was that?

2609
02:33:46,110 --> 02:33:47,880
John C Dvorak: It was I think in
the Midwest and we're just some

2610
02:33:47,880 --> 02:33:51,900
random orientation you show that
guy was reading right from the

2611
02:33:51,900 --> 02:33:56,610
prompter it said panties right?
And he but he caught it some

2612
02:33:56,610 --> 02:33:59,130
guys can't even catch it they'll
just plow right through and

2613
02:33:59,130 --> 02:34:00,480
never go back right

2614
02:34:02,070 --> 02:34:08,250
Adam Curry: I have to wow that's
a trip man. Got that one. But I

2615
02:34:08,250 --> 02:34:10,650
think I think neither of us win.
I think it's this

2616
02:34:10,679 --> 02:34:13,949
Unknown: my focus is just stay
focused.

2617
02:34:13,980 --> 02:34:18,720
Adam Curry: I mean, I think
that's the game is is just too

2618
02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:26,310
good is just too good. All
right. Before What idiot

2619
02:34:26,340 --> 02:34:31,830
Yeah, we got some show left. And
I would like to kick off the

2620
02:34:31,830 --> 02:34:33,540
banking crisis. Oh, no.

2621
02:34:35,340 --> 02:34:39,060
Unknown: Is there is a contagion
brewing first republic bank is

2622
02:34:39,060 --> 02:34:44,430
now patient zero. its stock
price plunged another 33% Today,

2623
02:34:44,550 --> 02:34:49,020
after s&p downgraded the bank's
credit rating amid fears of a

2624
02:34:49,020 --> 02:34:51,150
customer Exodus all together

2625
02:34:51,150 --> 02:34:54,450
I decided to close this account.
It's not the big money but still

2626
02:34:54,450 --> 02:34:56,370
money for especially for the
tight people.

2627
02:34:56,670 --> 02:34:59,970
First Republic isn't the only
mid size banks suddenly fail.

2628
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:04,590
facing a crisis of investor
confidence PacWest Bancorp stock

2629
02:35:04,590 --> 02:35:10,080
has tumbled 66% This month
Western alliance bank 57%.

2630
02:35:10,260 --> 02:35:14,040
Despite balance sheets that look
better than Silicon Valley Banks

2631
02:35:14,040 --> 02:35:16,380
did before it failed last
Friday.

2632
02:35:16,560 --> 02:35:22,800
There is a smoldering fire has
not actually been put out yet.

2633
02:35:22,980 --> 02:35:26,250
CBS business analyst Jill
Schlesinger says banks across

2634
02:35:26,250 --> 02:35:29,820
the country are looking to boost
their cash reserves. US banks

2635
02:35:29,820 --> 02:35:34,590
borrowed more than $150 billion
from the Federal Reserve this

2636
02:35:34,590 --> 02:35:38,640
week alone a new record. What
does that tell us tells

2637
02:35:38,640 --> 02:35:40,890
us that the banks are really
scared about the amount of

2638
02:35:40,890 --> 02:35:42,360
deposits that are leaving

2639
02:35:42,390 --> 02:35:45,780
the White House called on
Congress today to find and claw

2640
02:35:45,780 --> 02:35:49,650
back compensation from top bank
executives when their banks

2641
02:35:49,650 --> 02:35:53,970
fail. The CEO of Silicon Valley
Bank reportedly sold more than

2642
02:35:53,970 --> 02:35:59,400
$3 million worth of stock just
days before the FDIC was forced

2643
02:35:59,400 --> 02:36:00,720
to take over. I love

2644
02:36:00,720 --> 02:36:03,240
Adam Curry: how they that's
that's almost as bad as very

2645
02:36:03,240 --> 02:36:06,360
fine people. You know, this,
this keeps popping up those

2646
02:36:06,360 --> 02:36:09,660
horrible bank executives, they
did it they were selling stock

2647
02:36:09,660 --> 02:36:15,720
into the crash. No, these are
registered. This is registered

2648
02:36:15,720 --> 02:36:18,540
foreign advance. That's how it
works. It's not like a big

2649
02:36:18,540 --> 02:36:22,800
secret. But that's what CBS
won't know. It's just like, to

2650
02:36:22,800 --> 02:36:24,240
me, it's like they won't do it.

2651
02:36:24,300 --> 02:36:27,930
John C Dvorak: They'll do it.
They're crazy create news,

2652
02:36:28,260 --> 02:36:31,680
Unknown: exactly like this. One
thing lawmakers say they do want

2653
02:36:31,680 --> 02:36:35,370
to do is to determine whether
federal regulators could have

2654
02:36:35,370 --> 02:36:39,450
done more to stave off the
collapse of Silicon Valley Bank

2655
02:36:39,450 --> 02:36:42,390
and avoid all of this turmoil to
that end tonight. They are

2656
02:36:42,390 --> 02:36:45,720
announcing their first hearing
on the matter later this month

2657
02:36:45,720 --> 02:36:49,140
where they plan to grill top
officials from the Federal

2658
02:36:49,140 --> 02:36:51,120
Reserve and the FDIC and Aurora

2659
02:36:51,360 --> 02:36:57,450
Adam Curry: met Did you did you
see Janet Yellen being a good

2660
02:36:57,570 --> 02:37:02,700
interrogated by blank blank or
blank or blank card? linkerd

2661
02:37:03,180 --> 02:37:09,090
Lankford Lankford from Oregon. I
thought that was all telling.

2662
02:37:09,810 --> 02:37:15,510
Because this genius. By the way,
if you'll recall, the former New

2663
02:37:15,510 --> 02:37:19,620
York banker thinks she's a great
economist thinks he's great.

2664
02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:25,140
We've talked about that I think
need detail. Well, no, but he's

2665
02:37:25,140 --> 02:37:27,810
just all anything. She's
fantastic. I just think when

2666
02:37:27,810 --> 02:37:31,440
you're being questioned by
senator and you have just as we

2667
02:37:31,440 --> 02:37:34,800
say in the logo in the old
country, a mouthful of teeth,

2668
02:37:35,430 --> 02:37:40,020
like a Homina Homina Homina?
That's not a good look. I have

2669
02:37:40,080 --> 02:37:42,930
pulled a shortish clip, not the
long clip that you might have

2670
02:37:42,930 --> 02:37:44,250
seen? Well, the deposits

2671
02:37:44,280 --> 02:37:47,640
Unknown: and every community
bank in Oklahoma regardless of

2672
02:37:47,640 --> 02:37:49,470
Adam Curry: their sideway, this
guy should totally be doing a

2673
02:37:49,470 --> 02:37:53,340
podcast what a great set of
pipes. I love his voice. Very

2674
02:37:53,340 --> 02:37:54,330
distinct eyes

2675
02:37:54,630 --> 02:37:57,840
Unknown: being fully insured.
Now, are they fully recovered?

2676
02:37:58,140 --> 02:38:01,380
Every bank every community bank
in Oklahoma, regardless of the

2677
02:38:01,410 --> 02:38:04,590
size of the deposit, Oklahoma,
not Oregon, sorry, said Will

2678
02:38:04,590 --> 02:38:09,360
they get the same treatment that
SVB just got or Signature Bank

2679
02:38:09,360 --> 02:38:09,870
just got?

2680
02:38:10,500 --> 02:38:17,100
Bank only gets that treatment.
If a majority of the FDIC board

2681
02:38:17,400 --> 02:38:22,800
a supermajority is supermajority
of the Fed board, and I in

2682
02:38:22,800 --> 02:38:29,160
consultation with the president
determine that the failure to

2683
02:38:29,550 --> 02:38:35,370
protect uninsured depositors
would create systemic risk and

2684
02:38:35,400 --> 02:38:39,570
significant economic and
financial consequences. So what

2685
02:38:39,570 --> 02:38:42,390
is your plan that determination?
Right,

2686
02:38:42,420 --> 02:38:48,090
so what is your plan to keep
large depositors from moving

2687
02:38:48,090 --> 02:38:52,380
their funds out of community
banks into the big banks? We

2688
02:38:52,380 --> 02:38:56,970
have seen the mergers of banks
over the past decade. I'm

2689
02:38:56,970 --> 02:38:59,820
concerned you're about to
accelerate that by encouraging

2690
02:38:59,820 --> 02:39:02,850
anyone who has a large deposit
in a community bank to say we're

2691
02:39:02,850 --> 02:39:05,970
not going to make you whole. But
if you go to one of our

2692
02:39:05,970 --> 02:39:09,480
preferred banks, we will make
you whole at that point.

2693
02:39:11,850 --> 02:39:12,720
Adam Curry: Homina Homina.

2694
02:39:13,560 --> 02:39:17,610
Unknown: Look, I mean, we're
that's certainly not something

2695
02:39:17,610 --> 02:39:18,960
that we're encouraging

2696
02:39:18,960 --> 02:39:20,700
that is happening right now.

2697
02:39:21,840 --> 02:39:27,240
That is happening because
depositors are concerned about

2698
02:39:27,240 --> 02:39:30,720
the bank failures that have
happened and whether or not

2699
02:39:30,810 --> 02:39:32,640
other banks could also,

2700
02:39:33,300 --> 02:39:36,390
it's happening because you've
fully insured no matter what the

2701
02:39:36,390 --> 02:39:40,080
amount is, if you're in a big
bank, you're not fully insured.

2702
02:39:40,080 --> 02:39:41,490
If you're in a community bank,
well,

2703
02:39:42,270 --> 02:39:44,070
you're not fully insured.

2704
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:47,040
Adam Curry: Well, now, this
seems like they're picking

2705
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:50,160
winners and losers. And Janet
Yellen is one of the deciding

2706
02:39:50,160 --> 02:39:54,420
votes. And it seems a foregone
conclusion that anything but the

2707
02:39:54,420 --> 02:39:58,950
big two, was it four or six
banks, that they'll just swallow

2708
02:39:58,950 --> 02:40:03,810
everything up. We even got an
email from the CEO of our bank.

2709
02:40:03,810 --> 02:40:06,210
John. Did you see it?

2710
02:40:06,780 --> 02:40:10,500
John C Dvorak: No, I everyone
got one by me. Ah, almost like

2711
02:40:10,530 --> 02:40:13,500
he's going on about his
bullshit. We're not going to,

2712
02:40:14,160 --> 02:40:18,210
well, the mechanics Bank, which
is what we use, which does not

2713
02:40:18,210 --> 02:40:21,840
take sell, which is probably a
reason probably why he's been in

2714
02:40:21,840 --> 02:40:22,440
business.

2715
02:40:22,620 --> 02:40:24,930
Adam Curry: That's why they're
not gonna. There's no contagion,

2716
02:40:25,020 --> 02:40:27,060
no Zell contagion with our bank.

2717
02:40:27,840 --> 02:40:33,570
John C Dvorak: They refused
during the bailout of 2000 789.

2718
02:40:34,050 --> 02:40:36,990
They refused to take government
money, they were bragging about

2719
02:40:36,990 --> 02:40:39,330
it for a long time, we aren't
taking this because we're going

2720
02:40:39,330 --> 02:40:41,850
to be obligated. That's right.
And, you know, they get their

2721
02:40:41,850 --> 02:40:44,910
FDIC insured, and they got the
rest of it going on. So I'm not

2722
02:40:44,940 --> 02:40:49,350
concerned. But the I guess some
people must have been because

2723
02:40:49,350 --> 02:40:52,020
it's a small bank, even though
it's not that small. There's

2724
02:40:52,020 --> 02:40:57,090
like 200 branches. Yeah, all up
and down California. But I guess

2725
02:40:57,090 --> 02:40:58,770
it's smaller Bank of America.
Now,

2726
02:40:58,770 --> 02:41:01,590
Adam Curry: all the smaller
banks, I think, are saying, hey,

2727
02:41:01,590 --> 02:41:04,980
we want two years of full on
deposit insurance for everybody.

2728
02:41:04,980 --> 02:41:07,710
Yeah, good luck. Good luck, they

2729
02:41:07,710 --> 02:41:09,540
John C Dvorak: may end up
getting it because they're gonna

2730
02:41:09,540 --> 02:41:12,660
think their discussion earlier
today that I was listening to

2731
02:41:13,140 --> 02:41:19,440
discussing getting the $250,000
insurance jacked up to 10

2732
02:41:19,440 --> 02:41:21,480
million. How's that?

2733
02:41:21,480 --> 02:41:26,070
Adam Curry: Oh, wow, change. But
so what I am not an expert on

2734
02:41:26,070 --> 02:41:29,730
this, but I see the charts and I
see that, that all these banks

2735
02:41:29,760 --> 02:41:33,000
immediately went to the Federal
Reserve discount window, which

2736
02:41:33,000 --> 02:41:37,260
is, was initially created for,
you know, lender of last resort.

2737
02:41:37,860 --> 02:41:41,910
And although it's only one
spike, the spike of the of the

2738
02:41:41,910 --> 02:41:46,650
borrowing, I think, was $297
billion. That is indeed a

2739
02:41:46,650 --> 02:41:49,260
record. But I'd have to go on
for a lot more before it covers

2740
02:41:49,260 --> 02:41:51,780
the the record of 2008.

2741
02:41:52,439 --> 02:41:54,929
John C Dvorak: Well, the day
just grabbed that money, just in

2742
02:41:54,929 --> 02:41:57,929
case, there's a little mini run
on any of the branches of any of

2743
02:41:57,929 --> 02:42:02,009
these banks, which I have not
seen. I mean, first republic is

2744
02:42:02,009 --> 02:42:05,639
the only is the real bad actor
bank. And then we still know

2745
02:42:05,639 --> 02:42:08,849
much about signature. Yeah. And
then of course, Silicon Valley

2746
02:42:08,849 --> 02:42:12,359
Bank was the poster child.
Meanwhile, it's all covering up

2747
02:42:12,359 --> 02:42:15,149
for the fact that the real bad
actor, which is being ignored

2748
02:42:15,149 --> 02:42:19,559
completely in our news coverage
is Credit Suisse. Wow. I mean,

2749
02:42:19,559 --> 02:42:23,219
which took billions of dollars
to prop up,

2750
02:42:23,970 --> 02:42:28,530
Adam Curry: including, including
us a $9 billion swap line from

2751
02:42:28,530 --> 02:42:31,800
the Federal Reserve that went to
the Swiss central bank, like

2752
02:42:31,800 --> 02:42:34,890
they needed the money, I guess.
So whatever.

2753
02:42:35,039 --> 02:42:38,249
John C Dvorak: So they could
crop up prop up this week. So

2754
02:42:38,249 --> 02:42:42,419
what happens is, this is a
corrupt operations. Yeah. That

2755
02:42:42,449 --> 02:42:46,229
bank is good. Credit Suisse is
not going under it associate

2756
02:42:46,229 --> 02:42:50,129
what could possibly happen?
Well, Gemini skeletons in the

2757
02:42:50,129 --> 02:42:50,639
closet?

2758
02:42:50,790 --> 02:42:52,860
Adam Curry: Well, the those
skeletons would be the

2759
02:42:52,860 --> 02:42:55,110
derivatives that I've been
talking about since the

2760
02:42:55,110 --> 02:42:58,170
beginning of the show in 15
years ago, which has never

2761
02:42:58,170 --> 02:43:02,700
materialized. But that would be
a fine time to have that

2762
02:43:02,730 --> 02:43:05,760
unraveled, because then we're
really screwed. And they call

2763
02:43:05,760 --> 02:43:07,050
this contagion. You know, I

2764
02:43:07,050 --> 02:43:10,260
Unknown: want to start with
going back maybe six days or a

2765
02:43:10,260 --> 02:43:12,450
week at this point, it seems
like this banking crisis really

2766
02:43:12,450 --> 02:43:16,320
came as a surprise to so many
people. How did the collapse of

2767
02:43:16,320 --> 02:43:20,280
one institution in California
lead to the potential collapse

2768
02:43:20,310 --> 02:43:21,780
of the entire banking system?

2769
02:43:21,810 --> 02:43:24,780
You know, Christina just
mentioned a core concept in

2770
02:43:24,780 --> 02:43:28,980
banking and finance. And that is
confidence. And when we look at

2771
02:43:28,980 --> 02:43:32,430
one situation, it's kind of easy
to explain it. So we say Oh,

2772
02:43:32,430 --> 02:43:35,760
Silicon Valley Bank, they did a
lot of business with technology.

2773
02:43:35,760 --> 02:43:37,830
They loaded up on long dated
bonds more

2774
02:43:37,830 --> 02:43:39,720
Adam Curry: I do have to talk
like bad. Why is that so

2775
02:43:39,720 --> 02:43:42,600
important to go up like that
every single time? Why is CBS

2776
02:43:42,600 --> 02:43:43,320
doing that.

2777
02:43:43,470 --> 02:43:46,290
Unknown: But the reality is, the
way this moves from one

2778
02:43:46,290 --> 02:43:49,620
institution to another is that
people get spooked, we lose our

2779
02:43:49,620 --> 02:43:53,700
confidence. And we then say what
other banks were like Silicon

2780
02:43:53,700 --> 02:43:57,000
Valley Bank, what's going on
there, and you kind of list up

2781
02:43:57,000 --> 02:44:01,020
the hood, and you check it out.
To be clear for anyone watching

2782
02:44:01,020 --> 02:44:05,760
right now, if you have less than
$250,000 FDIC insured

2783
02:44:05,760 --> 02:44:09,990
institution, you are fine. And
even for those with more than

2784
02:44:09,990 --> 02:44:14,610
250,000 Perhaps if your
institution comes under trouble,

2785
02:44:14,760 --> 02:44:18,120
there could be a rescue. It's
not explicit, but I think

2786
02:44:18,120 --> 02:44:20,910
there's some implicit out
guarantees that are floating

2787
02:44:20,910 --> 02:44:22,170
around out there No, write

2788
02:44:22,170 --> 02:44:24,750
Adam Curry: her name down, write
her down, named on that CBS

2789
02:44:24,750 --> 02:44:28,320
lady, don't worry. She said it's
all good. By the way. I'm

2790
02:44:28,320 --> 02:44:32,250
hearing people specifically
blamed Jason Calacanis for the

2791
02:44:32,250 --> 02:44:38,070
bank run on Silicon Valley known
as the all caps people wish it

2792
02:44:38,070 --> 02:44:42,480
was very distinct. And he
started on Tuesday before the

2793
02:44:42,480 --> 02:44:46,020
collapse and this is horrible.
Get your money out. I and you

2794
02:44:46,020 --> 02:44:48,240
know, Molly would quit his show.
Did you see that?

2795
02:44:49,530 --> 02:44:52,020
John C Dvorak: I saw the note. I
don't know. I didn't listen to

2796
02:44:52,020 --> 02:44:53,100
the it was

2797
02:44:53,100 --> 02:44:55,770
Adam Curry: it was it was he's
Mollywood has moved on and we

2798
02:44:55,770 --> 02:44:58,560
wish her the best. Molly would
bail but I think she knows

2799
02:44:58,560 --> 02:45:01,410
something's coming down. I think
J Jason Calacanis I met. And I

2800
02:45:01,410 --> 02:45:04,380
don't wish him any ill. Of
course, he's a nice guy,

2801
02:45:04,380 --> 02:45:07,170
actually. And I think he
probably meant well, but he

2802
02:45:07,170 --> 02:45:10,290
might, he might end up getting
some blame for the Silicon

2803
02:45:10,290 --> 02:45:11,100
Valley Bank.

2804
02:45:11,910 --> 02:45:14,220
John C Dvorak: I think if that's
the case, I still think I still

2805
02:45:14,220 --> 02:45:17,610
asked the question is I thought
it was illegal to encourage a

2806
02:45:17,610 --> 02:45:18,510
run on a bank.

2807
02:45:18,540 --> 02:45:21,300
Adam Curry: Come on lawyers, no
agenda, no agenda, nation

2808
02:45:21,300 --> 02:45:23,130
lawyers, let us know if it's
criminal

2809
02:45:23,130 --> 02:45:25,260
John C Dvorak: attorney. So we
do have a couple. But we got a

2810
02:45:25,260 --> 02:45:30,240
few st ever chime in. And let's
say, you know, too much work. I

2811
02:45:30,240 --> 02:45:32,700
get paid by the borrower. I'm
not going to chime in. Oh.

2812
02:45:34,800 --> 02:45:37,380
Adam Curry: Nothing pro bono for
us, huh? Okay.

2813
02:45:38,730 --> 02:45:39,690
Unknown: Not happening now. So

2814
02:45:39,690 --> 02:45:42,480
Adam Curry: what did not help,
or maybe will help I don't know,

2815
02:45:42,510 --> 02:45:46,050
is the European Central Bank.
And I just want to play the

2816
02:45:46,050 --> 02:45:51,510
opening of Fifi regards. Raising
of the interest rate by 50 basis

2817
02:45:51,510 --> 02:45:56,250
points, which of course, in the
US is part of what caused this

2818
02:45:56,250 --> 02:46:01,050
whole issue is the interest
rates that went up too fast. And

2819
02:46:01,050 --> 02:46:04,860
I guess too much too fast. And
now she's replicating this in

2820
02:46:04,860 --> 02:46:05,310
Europe.

2821
02:46:05,790 --> 02:46:10,080
Unknown: Good afternoon, the
Vice President and I welcome you

2822
02:46:10,080 --> 02:46:14,190
to our press conference, but
inflation is projected to remain

2823
02:46:14,370 --> 02:46:18,390
too high for too long.
Therefore, the Governing Council

2824
02:46:18,420 --> 02:46:23,640
today decided to increase the
three key ECB interest rates by

2825
02:46:23,640 --> 02:46:28,830
50 basis points in line with our
determination to ensure the

2826
02:46:28,830 --> 02:46:33,420
timely return of inflation to
our 2% medium term target.

2827
02:46:33,509 --> 02:46:36,749
Adam Curry: Now this of course
will also affect Credit Suisse

2828
02:46:36,749 --> 02:46:40,169
and UBS who might be buying them
this weekend.

2829
02:46:40,230 --> 02:46:44,070
Unknown: The elevated level of
uncertainty reinforces the

2830
02:46:44,070 --> 02:46:47,940
importance of a data dependent
approach to our policy rate

2831
02:46:47,970 --> 02:46:48,690
decisions

2832
02:46:48,960 --> 02:46:52,020
Adam Curry: are data dependent
approach to a policy based

2833
02:46:52,020 --> 02:46:54,240
something decisions will doozy

2834
02:46:54,449 --> 02:46:57,539
Unknown: which will be
determined by data, our

2835
02:46:57,539 --> 02:47:01,709
assessment of the inflation
outlook in light of the incoming

2836
02:47:01,739 --> 02:47:05,669
economic and financial data
income dynamics of underlying

2837
02:47:05,669 --> 02:47:10,169
inflation, and the strength of
monetary policy transmission.

2838
02:47:10,259 --> 02:47:14,159
Adam Curry: Wow, monetary policy
transmission. Do you know what

2839
02:47:14,159 --> 02:47:14,969
that means?

2840
02:47:15,929 --> 02:47:17,459
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
she's talking about. That's

2841
02:47:17,460 --> 02:47:19,410
Adam Curry: what I love about
her. We are

2842
02:47:19,440 --> 02:47:23,130
Unknown: monitoring current
market tensions closely

2843
02:47:23,430 --> 02:47:27,480
monitored and ready to respond
as necessary to preserve price

2844
02:47:27,480 --> 02:47:31,680
stability and financial
stability in the euro area. The

2845
02:47:31,680 --> 02:47:36,660
euro area banking sector is
resilient, with strong capital

2846
02:47:36,720 --> 02:47:41,550
and liquidity position. However,
in any case, our policy toolkit,

2847
02:47:41,820 --> 02:47:45,870
Adam Curry: so strong and
strong, but in any case, our

2848
02:47:45,930 --> 02:47:47,490
policy toolkit,

2849
02:47:47,519 --> 02:47:52,019
Unknown: capital and liquidity
positions, in any case, our

2850
02:47:52,019 --> 02:47:57,359
policy toolkit is fully equipped
to provide liquidity support to

2851
02:47:57,359 --> 02:48:01,409
the euro area financial system,
if needed, and to preserve the

2852
02:48:01,409 --> 02:48:04,289
smooth transmission of monetary
policy.

2853
02:48:06,210 --> 02:48:09,660
Adam Curry: Exactly, the smooth
transmission of monetary policy.

2854
02:48:09,720 --> 02:48:13,440
If only I could meet my if only
could reach my tool belt, my

2855
02:48:13,440 --> 02:48:19,230
policy toolkit. Man, that was
just a bunch of Hui Hui right

2856
02:48:19,230 --> 02:48:23,610
there. And, of course, the only
question that matters is

2857
02:48:23,640 --> 02:48:28,770
Unknown: quickly Is this the
end? The end of what I'm seeing

2858
02:48:28,770 --> 02:48:29,970
anymore? I

2859
02:48:29,970 --> 02:48:32,910
can't say that we're in the eye
of the storm. And what I really

2860
02:48:32,910 --> 02:48:35,670
do think is that there's a lot
of negotiations going on this

2861
02:48:35,670 --> 02:48:38,340
weekend to sell banking assets
and banks themselves right,

2862
02:48:38,400 --> 02:48:44,370
Adam Curry: right, right. Isn't
that creepy?

2863
02:48:45,360 --> 02:48:48,630
John C Dvorak: Yeah. thinks
people are creepy. Trying to

2864
02:48:48,630 --> 02:48:52,620
make news. I have a couple of
clips left. I'm going to skip a

2865
02:48:52,620 --> 02:48:57,090
few but sure I do have a I had
the vasectomy ad.

2866
02:48:57,300 --> 02:49:01,920
Adam Curry: Oh goodness. Yeah.
This is based on a story that we

2867
02:49:01,920 --> 02:49:05,970
did and we could hardly believe
that there was going to be March

2868
02:49:05,970 --> 02:49:12,000
VAs madness. And the idea was
get your vasectomy during March

2869
02:49:12,000 --> 02:49:14,760
Madness. What people don't know
is the big basketball tournament

2870
02:49:14,760 --> 02:49:16,980
here in the United States
everyone participates with their

2871
02:49:17,100 --> 02:49:21,750
brackets and angles and whatever
the boy I know he's gonna win

2872
02:49:22,800 --> 02:49:23,700
brackets an angle

2873
02:49:23,759 --> 02:49:26,189
John C Dvorak: I always
participated my angle I sure do.

2874
02:49:26,609 --> 02:49:30,569
And so I have we have that
outside of the Satoshi clip you

2875
02:49:30,569 --> 02:49:36,869
wanted well I also have the clip
I like which is what is the vice

2876
02:49:36,869 --> 02:49:39,719
president do with with pick
Kamla Harris on the Colbert

2877
02:49:39,719 --> 02:49:40,019
show?

2878
02:49:40,050 --> 02:49:43,920
Adam Curry: Well, let's choose
well why can we do all three?

2879
02:49:44,730 --> 02:49:47,520
I'm Do we have time here we got
time I want to play the let's

2880
02:49:47,520 --> 02:49:50,280
start with the bad with the edge
the backside.

2881
02:49:51,690 --> 02:49:54,450
Unknown: That's madness and the
masters that your biology Austin

2882
02:49:54,450 --> 02:49:57,240
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2890
02:50:20,250 --> 02:50:25,050
Adam Curry: So it's true it was
really true and and they're

2891
02:50:25,050 --> 02:50:28,740
promoting during March Madness.
It's

2892
02:50:29,430 --> 02:50:32,400
John C Dvorak: It's insane how
we're a great country man. I

2893
02:50:32,400 --> 02:50:34,980
thought that was I still listen
to that. And I will say this

2894
02:50:34,980 --> 02:50:39,420
this ad bullshit. I believe it.
I believe it I believe sounds

2895
02:50:39,420 --> 02:50:43,440
like I've well produced pokes.
Now well,

2896
02:50:43,440 --> 02:50:45,690
Adam Curry: that would be it's a
very good I mean, it's a very

2897
02:50:45,690 --> 02:50:48,930
well produced hoax then because
it fooled me. I'm all in on it.

2898
02:50:49,200 --> 02:50:51,960
And it's an Austin. So that
makes sense. These types of

2899
02:50:51,960 --> 02:50:53,490
things are targeted Austin.

2900
02:50:53,520 --> 02:50:58,320
John C Dvorak: I think the the
hoax was if it's a hoax. It's

2901
02:50:58,320 --> 02:51:01,350
set up correctly. It is it
because it's completely

2902
02:51:01,350 --> 02:51:04,740
believable. Yeah. But I still
question it.

2903
02:51:05,190 --> 02:51:07,590
Adam Curry: All right, no. Next
we'll do the Satoshi thing that

2904
02:51:07,590 --> 02:51:09,330
you wanted me that I wanted,
apparently.

2905
02:51:10,470 --> 02:51:12,600
John C Dvorak: But you said I
didn't have the clip for the

2906
02:51:12,600 --> 02:51:14,640
last show. And I said, Well,
I'll bring the clip if you want

2907
02:51:14,640 --> 02:51:18,690
it. And it was a it's the
complete clip of it's just it's

2908
02:51:18,690 --> 02:51:22,290
this woman who was the Homeland
Security giving a little little

2909
02:51:22,680 --> 02:51:26,940
closed doors lecture and she
brings Satoshi into it and

2910
02:51:26,940 --> 02:51:29,670
saying that they went talk to
the guy and it really kind of

2911
02:51:29,700 --> 02:51:34,200
ends with a abruptly and it's I
mean, I have a better version of

2912
02:51:34,530 --> 02:51:40,560
our friends sent us decoda sent
us a six second copy we are the

2913
02:51:40,560 --> 02:51:44,550
full copy but it still could
have gone longer play it we

2914
02:51:44,550 --> 02:51:47,070
Unknown: looked at Bitcoin was
the most prevalent at that

2915
02:51:47,070 --> 02:51:50,070
point. We had seized quite a bit
of it millions of dollars were

2916
02:51:50,100 --> 02:51:52,920
under the Silk Road
investigation. So one of our

2917
02:51:52,920 --> 02:51:54,780
agents who started out looking
at another

2918
02:51:54,810 --> 02:52:01,290
John C Dvorak: because she has
that same milieu voice of the

2919
02:52:01,440 --> 02:52:05,340
black women that were in the by
the Obama administration. She

2920
02:52:05,340 --> 02:52:09,990
totally just sounds like the
twerp sounds like all of them.

2921
02:52:09,990 --> 02:52:14,430
And she's, she's a small black
woman. In the government, she is

2922
02:52:14,430 --> 02:52:17,040
part of the milieu she has that
voice.

2923
02:52:17,070 --> 02:52:19,410
Adam Curry: So she'll probably
be just as accurate as all of

2924
02:52:19,410 --> 02:52:20,670
them well.

2925
02:52:22,530 --> 02:52:25,410
Unknown: Investigation. So one
of our agents who started

2926
02:52:25,440 --> 02:52:28,650
looking at another online
marketplace, through the deep

2927
02:52:28,650 --> 02:52:30,750
web, which is called Black
Market Reloaded, they were

2928
02:52:30,750 --> 02:52:33,990
sending weapons packages through

2929
02:52:34,740 --> 02:52:38,190
Adam Curry: black market
reloaded great term. I love

2930
02:52:38,190 --> 02:52:40,230
black market reloaded nice

2931
02:52:40,800 --> 02:52:43,500
Unknown: through packages and
through app ordering them on the

2932
02:52:43,500 --> 02:52:47,070
dark web. And he was really,
really smart, forward leaning

2933
02:52:47,070 --> 02:52:50,850
agent. And he goes, I want to go
interview Satoshi Nakamoto. And

2934
02:52:50,850 --> 02:52:53,310
we're like what he said, Yeah, I
want to go interview this guy.

2935
02:52:53,310 --> 02:52:54,630
And at the time, we're like,
hey, it's a figment of

2936
02:52:54,630 --> 02:52:57,090
somebody's imagination. And
maybe it's true, maybe it's not

2937
02:52:57,090 --> 02:52:59,640
true. So you know, we had all
this pushback from our

2938
02:52:59,640 --> 02:53:03,240
headquarters and we thought hey,
if an agent wants to go talk to

2939
02:53:03,240 --> 02:53:06,990
him and we have some money, why
don't we send him let's find out

2940
02:53:06,990 --> 02:53:11,100
how this works. So as it came to
be the agents flew out to

2941
02:53:11,100 --> 02:53:14,040
California and they realized
that he wasn't alone in creating

2942
02:53:14,040 --> 02:53:16,980
this there were three other
people and he they sat down and

2943
02:53:16,980 --> 02:53:19,680
met with them and talk to them
to find out how this actually

2944
02:53:19,680 --> 02:53:21,390
works and what the reason for it
was

2945
02:53:23,100 --> 02:53:26,610
John C Dvorak: no man that ends
and the rest of it is admitted

2946
02:53:26,610 --> 02:53:29,400
from every podcast about Bitcoin
you want to listen to they're

2947
02:53:29,400 --> 02:53:34,050
all speculating and who the four
guys are. And that's it that's

2948
02:53:34,050 --> 02:53:37,170
where it's left off. Now Dakota
sent a note saying that he

2949
02:53:37,170 --> 02:53:41,400
suspects that Bitcoin which is
being mined mostly in China now

2950
02:53:41,760 --> 02:53:42,390
is no

2951
02:53:42,390 --> 02:53:45,180
Adam Curry: no no I'm sorry. I'm
sorry China it's now being mined

2952
02:53:45,180 --> 02:53:49,590
mostly in Texas China outlawed
mining and it all moved to Texas

2953
02:53:49,590 --> 02:53:50,430
or most okay

2954
02:53:50,430 --> 02:53:53,460
John C Dvorak: was in Texas, but
he said he claims has something

2955
02:53:53,490 --> 02:53:59,280
to do. It's an OP of some sort.
Okay, that's the end of it. And

2956
02:53:59,280 --> 02:54:03,120
that's all I wanted to all I
want to do is play that clip and

2957
02:54:03,120 --> 02:54:05,940
not talk about it because it's
like okay, this because now

2958
02:54:06,090 --> 02:54:09,960
we're selling a Bitcoin podcast
to the yak, yak yak, about all

2959
02:54:09,960 --> 02:54:11,400
kinds of nothing but
speculation.

2960
02:54:11,430 --> 02:54:13,200
Adam Curry: No, I don't want to
say anything other than that.

2961
02:54:13,200 --> 02:54:16,110
One of those for the one that
talking about Craig Wright was

2962
02:54:16,110 --> 02:54:23,220
sued and lost over this
ridiculous allegation. Okay. And

2963
02:54:23,220 --> 02:54:26,160
it's at 28,000 right now magic.
Okay. Go to call bear.

2964
02:54:26,730 --> 02:54:30,600
John C Dvorak: It's going
higher. It is. Yeah. Until the

2965
02:54:30,600 --> 02:54:36,330
end. Now, so cold bear gets.
This is a big clip everyone's

2966
02:54:36,330 --> 02:54:40,830
talking about this is Colbert
asking Kamala Harris in a very

2967
02:54:40,830 --> 02:54:44,460
roundabout way. What does the
vice president do? She can't

2968
02:54:44,460 --> 02:54:48,360
answer it. He doesn't follow up
because he can't because he's a

2969
02:54:48,360 --> 02:54:51,660
knee jerk liberal. But he
introduced start he doesn't

2970
02:54:51,690 --> 02:54:54,900
introduces it by talking about
some of the TV shows like the

2971
02:54:54,900 --> 02:54:58,020
Wii, the Veep and all these
other things and how they're

2972
02:54:58,350 --> 02:55:01,440
talked about in these shows what
is the vice president do nobody

2973
02:55:01,440 --> 02:55:04,440
seems to know. So he's throwing
it to camera like she's gonna

2974
02:55:04,440 --> 02:55:08,040
tell us what the Vice President
does and she can't do it

2975
02:55:08,070 --> 02:55:11,370
Unknown: is that her character?
Selina Meyer is frustrated by

2976
02:55:11,460 --> 02:55:15,780
the sometimes vague duties of
the role. Like it's a it's a

2977
02:55:15,780 --> 02:55:18,150
high constitutional office, but
it's not prescribed so much

2978
02:55:18,150 --> 02:55:21,240
about what you're supposed to be
doing. Does that ring true?

2979
02:55:21,240 --> 02:55:25,590
Like, what does? What is the
actual role on a daily basis? As

2980
02:55:25,590 --> 02:55:26,490
you have found it?

2981
02:55:26,700 --> 02:55:30,240
Well, I have the great privilege
of serving with Joe Biden, who

2982
02:55:30,240 --> 02:55:31,770
was present in the United
States.

2983
02:55:33,750 --> 02:55:37,320
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. Did they
flash the applause? What did

2984
02:55:37,320 --> 02:55:37,650
they do

2985
02:55:37,650 --> 02:55:39,840
John C Dvorak: here that that he
went nuts? That's real,

2986
02:55:39,840 --> 02:55:42,600
Adam Curry: huh. I mean, that
must have been the fanclub must

2987
02:55:42,600 --> 02:55:45,960
have been vice president's
office. I mean,

2988
02:55:45,990 --> 02:55:48,390
John C Dvorak: no, it's this is
his audience.

2989
02:55:53,640 --> 02:55:59,010
Unknown: Right, exactly. Right.
Exactly. Right. And and was vice

2990
02:55:59,010 --> 02:55:59,550
president?

2991
02:56:00,510 --> 02:56:04,110
Does he understand what he does?

2992
02:56:04,110 --> 02:56:08,760
And he is, he really is a true
partner. And he understands the

2993
02:56:08,760 --> 02:56:10,950
job. And remember, we came in
during the height of the

2994
02:56:10,950 --> 02:56:15,180
pandemic. And so so much of the
work was about, okay, we've got

2995
02:56:15,180 --> 02:56:17,760
to cover a lot of bases, and
let's figure out how between us

2996
02:56:17,760 --> 02:56:22,200
we can do it. But he is an
extraordinary leader. And I wish

2997
02:56:22,200 --> 02:56:25,920
that people could see what I
see. Because there's only one

2998
02:56:25,920 --> 02:56:29,850
person who sits behind the
resolute desk. And the decisions

2999
02:56:29,850 --> 02:56:33,480
that person has to make our
decisions that nobody else in

3000
02:56:33,480 --> 02:56:36,150
the country can make. And he's
an extraordinary leader.

3001
02:56:46,530 --> 02:56:48,570
That's an excellent answer. And

3002
02:56:49,080 --> 02:56:52,290
Adam Curry: wow, whoa, that's
what is he doing here? Is he is

3003
02:56:52,290 --> 02:56:54,690
he just trying to help her
through it? Like you did that

3004
02:56:54,690 --> 02:56:56,940
with finally got something
right. It's been so boring. That

3005
02:56:56,940 --> 02:56:59,340
was an excellent answer. Is that
what she's what he's doing here?

3006
02:56:59,760 --> 02:57:01,560
John C Dvorak: I have no clue.

3007
02:57:06,510 --> 02:57:09,150
Unknown: That's an excellent,
that's an excellent answer. And

3008
02:57:09,450 --> 02:57:12,900
the question was, what is the
job of the vice president? And

3009
02:57:13,020 --> 02:57:15,210
your answer is part of the job,
I'm guessing.

3010
02:57:15,240 --> 02:57:18,810
Well, you know, my job is to do
I mean, for example, I'll tell

3011
02:57:18,810 --> 02:57:22,530
you, I was recently in Munich at
the Munich Security Conference.

3012
02:57:22,950 --> 02:57:28,080
And, and the job there was to
stand up. And as you know, most

3013
02:57:28,080 --> 02:57:32,400
of my career spanned as a
prosecutor and I declared that

3014
02:57:32,640 --> 02:57:35,970
we, the United States of America
believe that Russia has

3015
02:57:35,970 --> 02:57:37,590
committed crimes against
humanity.

3016
02:57:41,160 --> 02:57:45,780
Adam Curry: Crimes against
humanity, well done. Holy moly.

3017
02:57:47,280 --> 02:57:53,640
I mean, I don't even know where
to start with that. Of course, I

3018
02:57:53,640 --> 02:57:56,670
don't think there's anything to
start at all. It's just show

3019
02:57:56,670 --> 02:58:03,270
Ender. Wow. That is a show under
Holy crap. Alright, everybody,

3020
02:58:03,270 --> 02:58:05,550
thank you very much for
supporting us in our value for

3021
02:58:05,550 --> 02:58:09,120
value proposition known as the
no agenda show best podcast in

3022
02:58:09,120 --> 02:58:13,440
the universe. We, of course,
look forward to returning to you

3023
02:58:13,440 --> 02:58:16,920
on Thursday. We'll do it once
again here from the West Indies,

3024
02:58:17,160 --> 02:58:22,320
and Silicon Valley, northern
Silicon Valley. It's a combo of

3025
02:58:22,320 --> 02:58:29,400
champions. You're right, John.
Bitcoin isn't up. It's Noah's

3026
02:58:29,430 --> 02:58:30,420
Ark 2.0.

3027
02:58:35,970 --> 02:58:39,630
And the show mixes that we have
Jesse Coyne Nelson. We got

3028
02:58:39,630 --> 02:58:45,660
Fletcher. And let me see what we
have on. Oh, we got grumpy old

3029
02:58:45,660 --> 02:58:50,760
Ben's Darren O'Neill and Sir
Ryan bemrose. It'll be dynamite.

3030
02:58:50,760 --> 02:58:54,480
Looking forward to that. tune to
the troll room for coming to you

3031
02:58:54,480 --> 02:58:59,190
from the heart of the West
Indies Montego Bay, Jamaica. In

3032
02:58:59,190 --> 02:59:00,660
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,

3033
02:59:01,020 --> 02:59:04,080
John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it rains

3034
02:59:04,080 --> 02:59:07,680
here to a little bit. I remain
here on Jhansi Dvorak we

3035
02:59:07,680 --> 02:59:09,720
Adam Curry: return on Thursday,
please remember us at the

3036
02:59:09,720 --> 02:59:14,640
vorak.org/na Until then, adios
MorphOS Hui Hui,

3037
02:59:15,330 --> 02:59:19,530
Unknown: such Brienne Thomas and
dusty Johnson is a Republican

3038
02:59:19,530 --> 02:59:24,270
from South Dakota. Dooley Cox,
dusty Johnson is a Republican

3039
02:59:24,270 --> 02:59:27,690
from South Dakota, do we cause I
do

3040
02:59:27,690 --> 02:59:31,080
think we want to be strategic
and forward looking. But I do

3041
02:59:31,080 --> 02:59:36,420
think I do think I do think get
I think more provocative. If

3042
02:59:36,450 --> 02:59:40,800
we can't push back hard against
hard against push back hard

3043
02:59:40,800 --> 02:59:43,710
against Russian imperialism and
Russian aggression in this

3044
02:59:43,740 --> 02:59:46,590
instance, we're gonna see
greater issues we're gonna have

3045
02:59:46,590 --> 02:59:50,730
to deal with down the line by
growing axis of evil that being

3046
02:59:50,730 --> 02:59:53,820
Russia, North Korea, China,
Iran,

3047
02:59:54,810 --> 02:59:56,700
get I think more provocative.

3048
02:59:57,210 --> 03:00:00,300
What would Ronald Reagan do
right now? He would Start

3049
03:00:00,300 --> 03:00:03,210
shooting Russian planes down if
they were threatening our s

3050
03:00:04,410 --> 03:00:09,840
threatening our s they shot down
our drone

3051
03:00:11,340 --> 03:00:14,730
threatening our s get I think
more provocative.

3052
03:00:15,720 --> 03:00:17,760
Dustin Johnson, he's a
Republican from South Dakota.

3053
03:00:18,300 --> 03:00:20,010
They shot down our drone

3054
03:00:20,040 --> 03:00:27,600
morning. So now of course, some
news about NPR itself. It's

3055
03:00:27,600 --> 03:00:30,000
about to lay off about 10% of
the workforce.

3056
03:00:30,120 --> 03:00:32,640
Adam Curry: Only old people
listen to NPR. Do we have

3057
03:00:32,640 --> 03:00:34,110
John C Dvorak: the demos on this
look?

3058
03:00:38,670 --> 03:00:42,630
Unknown: David, it's always a
pleasure to talk to you. But as

3059
03:00:42,630 --> 03:00:46,830
you know, NPR announced a major
restructuring today. Yeah, look,

3060
03:00:46,830 --> 03:00:53,070
it's what? So here's the
breakdown. Okay, so it's gonna

3061
03:00:53,130 --> 03:00:56,040
add up to about 100 jobs. So
here's

3062
03:00:56,040 --> 03:00:57,960
Adam Curry: the breakdown. It's
real

3063
03:00:57,960 --> 03:01:01,230
John C Dvorak: loss, what's good
with stretching and Obito, Radio

3064
03:01:01,260 --> 03:01:04,050
Ambulante Bullseye that narrow
to any of these,

3065
03:01:04,170 --> 03:01:06,240
Unknown: but programming is
where so much growth has

3066
03:01:06,240 --> 03:01:09,300
happened lately, particularly in
the podcasting division. Okay.

3067
03:01:10,290 --> 03:01:12,960
What does that actually mean? A
lot of our colleagues doing

3068
03:01:12,960 --> 03:01:15,360
journalism are doing so under
the rubric of podcasting but

3069
03:01:15,360 --> 03:01:17,760
it's still really part of a
greater journalistic function.

3070
03:01:18,270 --> 03:01:19,380
And so there's that

3071
03:01:19,410 --> 03:01:22,260
John C Dvorak: is the point is
is that those days are over

3072
03:01:24,450 --> 03:01:26,520
Adam Curry: Do you know what
that microphone you have? We're

3073
03:01:26,520 --> 03:01:31,320
taking that we're taking that as
part of your downsizing because

3074
03:01:31,320 --> 03:01:31,950
we have so much

3075
03:01:33,330 --> 03:01:37,350
Unknown: equity but you know,
take a hatchet wellfield chop

3076
03:01:37,350 --> 03:01:41,040
and drop you wit Yeah, now Yeah,
look, it's a hatchet now.

3077
03:01:41,070 --> 03:01:42,330
David dropped that.

3078
03:01:43,680 --> 03:01:45,210
Killed No, no, no, he'll

3079
03:01:45,600 --> 03:01:48,060
Adam Curry: kill conflict kills.
It's just not the way to go.

3080
03:01:48,360 --> 03:01:50,580
Unknown: Is in paraphilia?
Correspond correspondent David

3081
03:01:50,580 --> 03:01:51,780
Folkenflik really?

3082
03:01:53,040 --> 03:01:54,120
Show those guys.

3083
03:01:54,720 --> 03:01:55,980
It's been a real crunch.

3084
03:01:56,010 --> 03:02:04,740
John C Dvorak: It's been a riot.
Possible Harris. Harris,

3085
03:02:06,540 --> 03:02:09,660
Unknown: her alma mater. Howard
University got blown out they

3086
03:02:09,660 --> 03:02:13,080
lost and unfortunately after the
game, they suffered a fate

3087
03:02:13,110 --> 03:02:15,960
that's worse than actually
losing the game itself by having

3088
03:02:15,960 --> 03:02:19,980
to listen to combos word salad.
Tara's

3089
03:02:20,070 --> 03:02:27,570
played hard tears he played to
the very last second. Tears. You

3090
03:02:27,690 --> 03:02:35,340
hustled out there you are
smarter. until the last second,

3091
03:02:35,340 --> 03:02:35,550
you

3092
03:02:35,550 --> 03:02:36,300
did not stop.

3093
03:02:37,680 --> 03:02:45,690
And I'm so inspired. You showed
the world bison honor, literally

3094
03:02:45,690 --> 03:02:48,510
what you have done is in
historic proportion.

3095
03:02:48,600 --> 03:02:51,450
If you lose, you lose. They got
blown out. Okay, that was

3096
03:02:51,450 --> 03:02:54,120
nothing to celebrate them. If I
was them. I would just rather

3097
03:02:54,120 --> 03:02:57,870
not heard that speech from the
Vice President. I don't think

3098
03:02:57,870 --> 03:03:01,140
Kamala got to where she is
because of things that come out

3099
03:03:01,140 --> 03:03:03,360
of her mouth actually being his
exact opposite.

3100
03:03:06,690 --> 03:03:12,150
You inhale I didn't I did
inhale.

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03:03:20,430 --> 03:03:27,420
vote.org/and A, my focus is to
stay focused.