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John C Dvorak: hook line and
sinker. Adam curry Jhansi

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Devora.

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Adam Curry: Sunday March
12 2023. This is your award

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winning combination media
assassination episode 1537. This

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is no agenda, observing Daylight
Savings Time and broadcasting

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live from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country on average and

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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where it's wet.

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I'm Jhansi Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Thank you for that
exhilarating weather reports

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from Sun northern silicon. It's
wet. What's weird in Southern

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California too. That's gonna
screw up the Oscars.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, that's right.
The Oscars are today. Tonight.

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Adam Curry: I have a report of
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report Hold on a second. Well, I
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John C Dvorak: tell you who's
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Cruise. Everyone everywhere,
everything all the time. That

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movie Who's Who is that by? By
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Chinese film. Listen to this
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Adam Curry: report from now this
was interesting. This is who and

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so it's the Indian news service.
Your friend but they cut to an

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Indian dude. Reporting on behalf
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John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that
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Unknown: You know, this year's
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hectic. Because of the past few
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raining nonstops. So actually,
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buckets lying on the floor to
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statues as you can see behind me
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jacket to prevent rain from like
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year, as you mentioned, is very
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because it's actually champagne
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academy CEO Bill, he said that
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color is because he wants it to
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Kimmel mentioned that they
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this year's Oscar obviously
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last year slap when Chris Rock
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it's time that the Academy Award
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In fact, before in 1961, before
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carpet itself is actually 152
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kilograms. So it requires 18
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about 900 hours now the
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way not gray carpet but this
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way here all the way towards the
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Adam Curry: love the stats that
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these little nuggets of
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the red carpet was once green.

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John C Dvorak: Oh my 900 hours
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Adam Curry: Right exactly. It's
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champagne. It's champagne. Yeah.
It's my way a sponsor if you

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John C Dvorak: had a color if
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color of liquid in the glass,
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Adam Curry: oh Ma'am, did you
think that the MO a Shawn Dawn

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is a sponsor? Is that why it's
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it's beige? There's gotta be
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John C Dvorak: Maybe this guy
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all they usually serve
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this event. They're the new
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seating what's how's it going to
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Adam Curry: By you asking me
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to report it Entertainment
Television all of a sudden, like

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I'm Ryan Seacrest. No, no. No.
And for those of you tuning in

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from around the world, as many
do live on Thursdays and

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Sundays, big changes afoot here
in the United States.

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Unknown: And it's that time of
year again, get ready to lose an

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hour of sleep. Daylight Saving
Time is upon us clocks. Go ahead

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spring forward at 2am but there
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permanent. A bipartisan group of
senators has introduced

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legislation that would keep the
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Adam Curry: over 15 years we've
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podcast together and it's the
same report every year. Well,

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we're gonna we're gonna make it
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insanity.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, every year
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Adam Curry: every and before
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didn't feel too bad this
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worse. I don't know why. But how
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John C Dvorak: I felt okay.
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though. I mean, I was I've had
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that kind of kept me short on my
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Adam Curry: But what do you mean
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hour earlier? No. Oh, you just
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waking up. You don't set an
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John C Dvorak: an alarm for the
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alarm and I just offset the the
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Adam Curry: preparation be
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I'll just work an hour shorter.
Is that what I'm hearing? So you

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John C Dvorak: know what you've
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No. You are saying to me yes,
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ruin the pacing and everything
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a screw up to show for me so you
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Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what
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John. That's, that's exactly.
Actually I'm very happy that you

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woke up at your at your normal
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time. Because you're not as
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John C Dvorak: brother.

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Adam Curry: And mind you. This
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vocations in the world. That's
us being podcasters.

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Unknown: Now to that horrific
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a podcast her and her husband
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Police say a 38 year old truck
driver from Texas broke into the

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couple's home and shot them
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himself taking his own life. The
woman had filed a protective

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order against him.

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Adam Curry: Why are you
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It's a dangerous a dangerous

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John C Dvorak: no I'm not
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at the fact that what good does
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somebody and then shoot yourself
nobody knows anything?

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Adam Curry: Well that's not I
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you're really interested but
this this guy was it here's what

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scared me a little bit about it
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Unknown: it for he said i Police
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Hodaka rom res he stopped shot
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Sadeghi and her husband before
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Appearing hostage situation.
Shooters not. A neighbor says

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their security camera caught the
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blood curdling to hear
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Reza, he listened to today's
live podcast for people who

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speak Farsi looking for jobs in
the tech industry and befriended

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her through a chat app. They
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This is the absolute worst
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case. This is every victim every
detected. Police Chief's worst

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nightmare.

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ABC News has learned just a week
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a request for an order of
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alleging and chilling detail a
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the 33 year old fear for her
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according to the orders today.
Laughter voicemails more than 10

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times a week sending flowers
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than 20 messages a day writing
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Adam Curry: There are many
people who EMAIL ME 10 times a

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day who send gifts to the PIO
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me go. You don't have that not
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it's any any one of these people
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John C Dvorak: You never know.
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mean, I can see that the I
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this. But she's doing a farsi
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Eastern politics, which is the
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Adam Curry: It's horrible. It's
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bad day for podcasting. That's
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crack down on crime. And I'm
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actually spike it. But I'm
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going to reference here is
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1994 crime bill, which he was as
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John C Dvorak: was the co
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Adam Curry: I think he I think
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think he was just the co
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hand with front page, I think
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predators, the nine year old
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down on him. And then we got
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Corporation of America, the real
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1000s mainly black men. And
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Unknown: so folks look Magga
Republicans are calling for

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defunding the police department.

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Adam Curry: Now. This is
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comes to twisting the truth,
there's lying and lying, lying.

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There's nothing better than
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Magga Republicans who wanted to
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wasn't the crazy squad or
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the Maga Republicans and he ties
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FBI. So he's like, Oh, it's law
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Maga Republicans whoever wrote
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somehow was able to get out. It
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Unknown: folks, look Okay. Magga
Republicans are calling for

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defunding the police departments
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that's a good one. I like that
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tries to provide funding that is
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secure. We talked about how
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budget invests in public safety,
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training, more support for law
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to pay men play many roles. We
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workers, we accept them to be
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counselors. You know, more cops
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domestic violence calls than
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help. We don't expect a cop to
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psychologist to a counselor.
These departments need more

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investment in this kind of help.
And we're going to find proven

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strategies for accountable
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Copson know the communities they
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them. We got to get cops back on
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and the communities they know.
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they stop in and they know the
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ministry, they know the person
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store. Well, we did that in the
Biden crime. No crime person

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just plummeted. You did that
Joey? Because I know, folks,

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Adam Curry: folks. Yeah, it was
very successful. You're 94 crime

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bill. Okay.

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John C Dvorak: It's a good
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way. He's describing some sort
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cops are roaming around on
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yeah. You know, just go to the
cab, just roam into the giant

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Safeway and know who the owner
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Adam Curry: Well, yeah. Anyway.
It was. I just, it's like, there

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you go. He's going into the 94.
Crime Bill. And it's like, it's

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like, problem reaction solution.
And just blame it on Magga.

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Republicans. Beautiful. That

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John C Dvorak: was just to pick
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Adam Curry: No, I am. I am
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John C Dvorak: lot of factcheck
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Adam Curry: No, only on your no
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way too obsessed with dying.
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Unknown: conducted a number of
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daylight saving time. What is
your research shown regarding

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the consequences of this
practice on our health?

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Adam Curry: Now, what could the
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makes up this year? It's even a
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have numerous left COVID And we
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John C Dvorak: courage
depression.

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Adam Curry: No, no. Oh, no.
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control processes, different
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consumption. And what our
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studies from the world is that
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different diseases, such as
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risk for heart attack, stroke,
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Adam Curry: There you go. heart
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John C Dvorak: Same thing that
COVID does.

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Adam Curry: Exactly, exactly.
But depression wise, there is

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well not really depression, but
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something going on on tick tock.
You know, I'm gonna save that.

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I'm gonna save that. We'll save
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John C Dvorak: No, douche. Tick
tock, now, tock, tick tock,

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Adam Curry: tick tock update
everybody. Women, and all I

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found are white women, but women
on tick tock are complaining

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about their Adderall, Vyvanse or
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there seemed to be a shortage.
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chain, that there was a shortage
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for Adderall. And there was some
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meth. Yes. Correct. They talk

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about it. It's D meth or
something. But what's happening

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is women. It's not working for
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changed. And I think that we may
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hear how long these women have
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mean, is it possible that meth
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become kind of used to it? It
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John C Dvorak: Nope, I have no
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them out I may have does it make
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or more of this stuff? Whatever.

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Adam Curry: I put a little I put
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Unknown: your 100% not receiving
Adderall coming from someone who

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nine. I'm currently 26 I did
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Adam Curry: get nine and
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Unknown: I haven't been able to
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bottle and I swear to you, it
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milligrams, not D amphetamine.
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symptoms of ADHD overall. And
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dexedrine could I personally
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dexedrine during this shortage,
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my new job. And so of course, I
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veins like two or three hours
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I just got my results back
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working? I'm on like a 20
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the shortage and stuff, like all
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to drink like coffee to like,
maybe get it to kick in. I don't

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may have figured out what my
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diagnosed with ADHD 10 years
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meds on and off for 10 years.
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Okay, this is for anyone who
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Adderall, Vyvanse, Ritalin,
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my language, this should this
should is not working. I don't I

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don't know what they're giving
us. But it's not it. It's not

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Adam Curry: if I love how fast
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high anyway, it

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Unknown: this isn't a real
they're giving us a sugar pill a

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placebo something. Every single
morning I used to take this I

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would get like the instant
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feel the need to go to the
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extreme focus all day. And like
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asleep. None of that. Now
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But that's how I know it's not
working. So there's discourse

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about ADHD meds not working
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national shortage. And I'm
noticing it to some of my

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Vyvanse works and sometimes it
doesn't. So I'm gonna stop

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making a chart. Because I'm
gonna right now it's not

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working. So when it works, I can
feel a come up or just like sit

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there for a little bit. I'm
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appointments or clean or do my

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homework or read. And I don't
make stupid little jokes

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constantly in my head. And I
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by now. And I'm thinking a lot
of dumb stuff. So today's dose

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is not working and they are from
the same bottle. And but the

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other day it was working. So
today I'm gonna go get my

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refill. Because Walgreens said I
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they're going to just put it
back because why don't they just

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automatically send us the ADHD
meds like they really expect us

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to come get it. Anyway, I'm
gonna make a chart and when it

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works when it doesn't work, and
I will report back in

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Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I hear
junkies.

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John C Dvorak: I'm here. Are you
hearing correctly?

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Adam Curry: Oh, this this. This
saddens me. It's funny, but it

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saddens me to know and then
these women are addicted.

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They're junkies. I'll bet you
they're listening at 2.0 speed

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to

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John C Dvorak: maybe you got
they're not listening.

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Adam Curry: No, no, they're not
listening. But this is epidemic.

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And so the minute if something
changes, and I don't know if it

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changes. I mean, if you've been
taking it since you were nine

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and you're 26 now yeah, okay,
maybe maybe you're maybe you're

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just immune to it just doesn't
work well enough. And that one

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lady said, Well, you know, I
take some coffee and I feel a

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little bit better. That This to
me is like wow, this is sad.

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John C Dvorak: Well, they
couldn't be right. Because I

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noticed this myself with certain
drugs. They'll take once in a

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while. Over the counter, for
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Aleve. Uh huh. I find that the
generic Aleve the approximate

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generic doesn't work at all.

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Adam Curry: That's interesting.
You say that because when my

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when I had my first surgery in
my mouth, I could take ibuprofen

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I got these big 600 milligram
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believe that an actual brand
name Eleaf did nothing. Just

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nothing. And that was brand
names. I don't know. I don't

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know. Maybe the Chinese are
screwing us over.

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John C Dvorak: They could be, or
the Indians, most of this stuff

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comes from India. Well, this
Vyvanse or whatever it is, is

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interesting. I never heard much
about it before. It's another

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verb. I've taken it. Oh, yeah.
What is it like?

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Adam Curry: Well, I took it
once. Because what? Oh, just see

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what my daughter was on. She's
not on it. This is a long time

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ago. This is 2011 I think. And
she was taking Vyvanse I'm like,

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See what that's like. I was

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tripping balls. It's a it's a
time release. And I mean, that

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thing is 1214 hours. He's just
just just really I got little

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sweaty, Speedy. I'm not a you
know, my drug has always been

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marijuana. My drug is the
opposite of Vyvanse. I hated it.

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I can't believe anyone would
would voluntarily take that

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John C Dvorak: so it's another
very it's a variation, a major

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variation of an of an
amphetamine and feta mean. So

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it's speed. Yeah. How's he get
away with selling this stuff to

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the public at large is beyond
me. Well,

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Adam Curry: I think this is the
telemedicine that's what I'm

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learning the telemedicine
systems like the one you we

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talked about the one that Weight
Watchers bought so that they

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could prescribe ozempic to their
clients and pretend like it's so

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it's our it's our program don't
worry about program and says

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it's what's working. In fact, I
got a note from one of our

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producers, I'm over 50. And for
numerous reasons can't lose the

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weight weight, the way I used
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pre diabetes, ie I had to make a
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And by the way, we all have
we're all pre diabetic, trust

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me, we're all pre cancerous pre
debt, we're all pre debt. My

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wife and I started started using
majorna, which is like ozempic.

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cost is $300 for four shots that
taken weekly. The Diabetes

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version is about 1000 a month
and sold in special injectors.

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do this now or do it later with

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diabetes. So he's been convinced
we can afford to do this but but

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amount we spend his savings
saved a not eating out with

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these drugs, your appetite
drips, and drips, and you really

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don't want to eat all that much.
I bet I'll bet the five answers

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to this class of drugs has been
used in Hollywood and by the

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elites for decades, finally
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upper middle class, aren't you
happy? He says if I were blessed

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with great self control of my
eating, I would not be in this

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situation. I'm a realist. So he
certainly has given up. He says

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he can't he can't do it. He
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the willpower. The willpower.
Yeah. But these telemedicine

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health guys, these are the ones
these are the ones that are

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prescribing all kinds of stuff.
And, and by the way, big story

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about cerebral cerebral is
another one of these telehealth

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apps. Well, they got caught
sharing millions of their

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patients data with advertisers.

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John C Dvorak: Oh so much for
HIPAA.

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Adam Curry: That's great. If an
individual creators cerebral

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account the information
disclosed Me included name phone

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number, email address, date
baba, baba, bah, online self. In

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addition, the individual has
completed any portion of

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cerebral online Melf health self
assessment, the information

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disclosed may also have been
included in the service the

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individual selected, so they
just sold that now they're

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getting fined for it, but it's
not like you're hearing much

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about it. Yeah. It's really it's
really nuts.

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John C Dvorak: The allopathic
medical system is out of

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control.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, well, how
about this? This is you'll love

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this Wall Street Journal. March
is a special time for college

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basketball fans who kick back on
the couch for days to watch the

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two week NCAA Tournament known
as March Madness. It has also

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become a shining moment for some
neurologists who see the games

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as a perfect time to peddle
vasectomies. Yes, the idea of

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pairing male family planning
with March Madness appears to

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have been very successful so how
about that?

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John C Dvorak: How does that
work

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Adam Curry: is vast vast madness
there you'll see the commercials

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vast madness along with March
Madness. I

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John C Dvorak: have not seen any
of these commercials. They say

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it's coming.

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Adam Curry: They say it's
coming. Kleenex or advertising

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VAs madness recover On the couch
glued to the TV guilt free

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John C Dvorak: yeah forget to be
washed all these grades. Oh,

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that's Oh man as well maybe

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Adam Curry: I want to watch the
games. Don't interrupt me. Well,

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you can if you're recovering
from your vasectomy. I wonder

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how many of our producers have
been tricked into this.

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John C Dvorak: I think half of
our producers have had a

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vasectomy, or they complain
about a report or

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Adam Curry: they're about to
leave us

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Adam Curry: got really mad. It's
like you can't talk about EVs.

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You can't talk about
vasectomies. You can't talk

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about it.

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John C Dvorak: I'm sure people
will warming's out. Hey,

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Adam Curry: man, I have ADHD to
stop busting. I'm a math guy,

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you do whatever you want. I was
a druggie for all my life. That

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marijuana still still tobacco
was well. Dodge is things like,

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00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:58,680
wow, they got a hold of us now
that God has bought the balls

438
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,250
literally.

439
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,850
John C Dvorak: Well, you did
play a Biden clip. I want to get

440
00:26:02,850 --> 00:26:08,730
a couple Biden clips out of the
way. All right. Biden is not

441
00:26:08,730 --> 00:26:09,840
very good at math.

442
00:26:12,090 --> 00:26:14,940
Unknown: I just met I won't
embarrass them by pointing out I

443
00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:17,190
don't want I don't have
permission. But I just met a

444
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:22,500
woman who has healthcare costs
that are 600 $600,000 A year

445
00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:28,320
$7,000 A month? Well, guess
what? How can you possibly deal

446
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,480
with that? Well, we just dealt
with.

447
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,820
Adam Curry: So that sounds like
he multiplied by. He did an

448
00:26:35,820 --> 00:26:39,450
extra 10 times there. Were
eight.

449
00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:41,820
John C Dvorak: Well, it says
seven and six. It wasn't even

450
00:26:41,820 --> 00:26:42,450
that it was

451
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,070
Adam Curry: what? Who knows what
he was thinking?

452
00:26:49,050 --> 00:26:50,610
John C Dvorak: Well, then
there's this this one here,

453
00:26:50,610 --> 00:26:53,760
which is funnier. And he did. He
says it twice to make sure it's

454
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,770
even that you don't miss it.

455
00:26:55,980 --> 00:27:01,560
Unknown: More to show I really,
it's all my fault. Well, look, I

456
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,440
think we got a good job report.
I'm happy to report that our

457
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,960
economy has created over 300,000
new jobs last month. And that's

458
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,130
on top of a half a million jobs
we added the month before. All

459
00:27:14,130 --> 00:27:18,390
total, we've created more than
12,000 12,000 jobs since it took

460
00:27:18,390 --> 00:27:23,280
office. nearly 8000 of the
manufacturing jobs. That means

461
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,340
overall, we've created more jobs
in two years than any

462
00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:30,720
ministration has created in the
first four years. And I think

463
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,880
all this matters. It's no
accident.

464
00:27:32,910 --> 00:27:39,960
Adam Curry: No. Goodness. You're
still mass bumping.

465
00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:42,000
John C Dvorak: I don't know why.
Oh, sorry. That was my fault.

466
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,610
Now. I knew I did that. I've
just got to be careful. Well,

467
00:27:44,610 --> 00:27:49,020
the job Oh, that's Biden's
ability to capitalize. Yeah.

468
00:27:49,469 --> 00:27:52,019
Adam Curry: Well, jobs are going
to change. Pretty soon. You're

469
00:27:52,019 --> 00:27:54,809
gonna have a lot more
unemployed. I've been following

470
00:27:54,809 --> 00:27:58,649
the Silicon Valley Bank.
closure.

471
00:27:58,830 --> 00:28:00,210
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't say
quite a lot of people are

472
00:28:00,210 --> 00:28:02,490
blaming Peter Thiel. Did you get
that far?

473
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:04,890
Adam Curry: Oh, I got much
further than that. Oh, would

474
00:28:04,890 --> 00:28:09,840
take us there. Okay. Well, first
of all, whenever I get an email

475
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,570
from Andrew Horowitz saying
yeah, this could be pretty big.

476
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,640
I pay attention on Horowitz he's
a pretty level headed guy. Cool.

477
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,750
Yeah. He doesn't really go too
nuts. Well, I have two reports.

478
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:25,860
And then we can we and I 100%.
five by five agree that Peter

479
00:28:25,860 --> 00:28:29,130
Thiel started the bank run. But
let's listen to some of the

480
00:28:29,790 --> 00:28:31,770
mainstream reporting. Here's
ABC, from

481
00:28:31,770 --> 00:28:34,710
Unknown: New York to California
today panicked customers

482
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:38,340
scrambling to pull their money
out of Silicon Valley Banks,

483
00:28:38,490 --> 00:28:41,100
only to find them close all our
money's

484
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:44,100
in the bank. I don't know how
we're gonna do our payroll. I

485
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,630
don't know what we're gonna do.
Now.

486
00:28:45,690 --> 00:28:49,140
It's the biggest bank failure
since the 2008. Financial

487
00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:52,710
crisis. Regulators this morning,
shutting down and seizing the

488
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:56,100
assets of the bank, a go to
lender to the tech industry.

489
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:59,700
Many of those businesses today
cut off from their cash, I hope

490
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:02,640
to get most of it back. But
that's definitely concerned. It

491
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,360
all came crashing down in just
48 hours, as the bank tried to

492
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,320
shore up its finances. The panic
only spread on Wall Street, the

493
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,130
bank stock plunged and customers
started pulling their money out.

494
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,620
Once that happens, it's just
inevitable it's going to fail.

495
00:29:16,650 --> 00:29:19,530
high interest rates have left
many tech companies with less

496
00:29:19,530 --> 00:29:22,980
cash on hand, forcing them to
withdraw more to meet their

497
00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:23,760
expenses.

498
00:29:23,790 --> 00:29:28,290
This is a bank, perhaps a
handful of banks that are

499
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,380
getting nailed by the fallout
from the from the problem the

500
00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:36,210
tech sector. And it's not a
economy wide or a banking system

501
00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:36,570
wide

502
00:29:36,690 --> 00:29:39,990
problem. We pressed the White
House on what this means for the

503
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:43,110
tech world. How concerned are
you that we could see a ripple

504
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:45,960
effect just throughout this
specific sector? I just want to

505
00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:47,130
re emphasize that we

506
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,180
are in a fundamentally different
position that, you know with the

507
00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:56,100
reforms of the global financial
crisis of 2007 2008 we've put in

508
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:59,970
place stress tests and other
tools that our regulators have i

509
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,220
to provide more resilience to
our banking system.

510
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,260
Adam Curry: Alright, so what
happened here is a is not crypto

511
00:30:07,260 --> 00:30:10,020
related, although there are some
there's some exposure there with

512
00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:14,820
a stable coin USDC, which I
fully expect to collapse because

513
00:30:14,850 --> 00:30:21,600
stable coins are crap. What
happened here is, is really

514
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:25,890
Yeah, the big banks the big for
too big to fail, they had to

515
00:30:25,890 --> 00:30:28,620
over capitalize, they've been
stressed tested, but all the

516
00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:31,590
other regional banks, smaller
banks like Silicon Valley Bank,

517
00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:38,580
they actually argued the the CEO
of Silicon Valley Bank, argued

518
00:30:38,580 --> 00:30:42,930
to weaken regulations. And I
believe since COVID, they didn't

519
00:30:42,930 --> 00:30:47,040
even have to have 10% of
reserves. And the biggest

520
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,330
problem for that for that was is
almost a classic idiot bank move

521
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:57,570
is they invested in bonds that
you have to hold to maturity,

522
00:30:58,260 --> 00:31:01,890
htm is what it's called. I mean,
you can't just sell them off. So

523
00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:04,770
they had a lot of these bonds,
which are because the interest

524
00:31:04,770 --> 00:31:08,730
rates have gone up so quickly.
And as we know, prices of bonds

525
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,700
work inversely to interest
rates, that means they're worth

526
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:15,720
less money if you want to go and
sell them. And this went so

527
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,130
fast, which is what what our
Federal Reserve has been doing,

528
00:31:20,370 --> 00:31:23,940
that they found themselves
overexposed, like $1.8 billion,

529
00:31:24,420 --> 00:31:29,340
and they started selling these
unprofitable bombs. That's when

530
00:31:29,340 --> 00:31:33,630
Peter Thiel on Wednesday, I
think told all of his portfolio

531
00:31:33,630 --> 00:31:36,120
companies, so I don't know how
many of those are, it could be

532
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,790
10, could be 20, could be 100.
But these are companies that

533
00:31:38,790 --> 00:31:42,120
he's invested in either directly
or through maybe one of the

534
00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:45,120
venture capital firms. He
started calling everybody say,

535
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,370
take your money out, take your
money out, take your money out,

536
00:31:47,370 --> 00:31:51,450
that is what triggered an actual
run on the bank when everyone's

537
00:31:51,450 --> 00:31:55,710
going, Oh, crap, let's take our
money out. And they didn't have

538
00:31:55,710 --> 00:31:59,160
the cash on hand, they were $900
million short and just couldn't

539
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,030
give anybody the cash. This was,
I guess, kind of expected the

540
00:32:03,030 --> 00:32:08,520
regulars regulators came in and
shut it down. And the way these

541
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,450
things work is if you every bank
account in America has an FDIC

542
00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:16,140
Bank, which I think they all
are, they are insured up to

543
00:32:16,140 --> 00:32:20,940
$250,000 per account. So on
Monday, if you had a million

544
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:24,450
dollars in an account, you'll
get 250,000. At minimum, that's

545
00:32:24,450 --> 00:32:26,730
that's what's going to end
whatever else happens. We're

546
00:32:26,730 --> 00:32:30,240
going to see before we move any
further into some of the

547
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,070
details. The way Silicon Valley
works, and I've witnessed this

548
00:32:35,070 --> 00:32:42,000
twice. Once when I took my
company public in 1996. We went

549
00:32:42,510 --> 00:32:46,200
we took it public with a brown
shoe small New York firm, but we

550
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,950
went around to the big the big
companies. And they immediately

551
00:32:49,950 --> 00:32:55,080
bring in Wilson Sonsini, which
is Silicon Valley's law firm,

552
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,130
very, very famous, I think the
as at Wilson Sonsini, who's kind

553
00:32:59,130 --> 00:33:01,770
of like called the godfather of
Silicon Valley and one of the

554
00:33:01,770 --> 00:33:04,590
two, you may know that better
than I do. And that's, you know,

555
00:33:04,590 --> 00:33:07,380
and they'll, they'll run, you
know, deals through, they'll

556
00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:11,190
play on both sides of deals.
It's incredible what a what kind

557
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:16,860
of monopoly they have. But when
we raise money from Sequoia

558
00:33:16,860 --> 00:33:20,880
Capital, Kleiner Perkins shirt
below raunchy rock Sriram. But

559
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,490
the main, the main two were
Sequoia and Kleiner Perkins,

560
00:33:23,730 --> 00:33:27,390
immediately, as a covenant in
the deal. And you're going to

561
00:33:27,390 --> 00:33:31,740
bank at Silicon Valley Bank. And
if you remember you, and I

562
00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:39,150
bought a lot of lunches and wine
with an SVB credit card. And so

563
00:33:39,150 --> 00:33:44,190
the way it kind of works is they
have their money at SVB. Or at

564
00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:47,460
least chunks of it. And you
know, okay, we're gonna raise

565
00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:49,440
this money, you get the money,
and it really is just

566
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,500
transferred from one Silicon
Valley Bank account to the next

567
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:57,030
one. And because you're in this
trusted circle, which the bank

568
00:33:57,030 --> 00:34:00,570
connects everybody, you can then
get easy debt financing. Oh, you

569
00:34:00,570 --> 00:34:04,500
need a $2 million line of
credit, no problem. And so it's

570
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:09,270
very incestuous. And I'm pretty
sure a lot of the owners, the

571
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:14,100
bank shareholders, the bank were
the same people. So a lot of

572
00:34:14,490 --> 00:34:19,440
yeah, just incestuous exposure.
And because of this, they say

573
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:25,170
50%, I would say, maybe 75% of
every single venture capital

574
00:34:25,170 --> 00:34:28,470
back for him, not just in
Silicon Valley. We're talking

575
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:32,760
firms in Sweden, in Denmark, in
the Netherlands, in the UK,

576
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,020
everywhere. If you raise money
through a big event, not even a

577
00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:41,370
big one, but one of the 350 or
400 venture capital firms,

578
00:34:41,490 --> 00:34:44,910
you're going to have a bank
account of Silicon Valley. So

579
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,610
this is going to create a large
culling of the heard in time.

580
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,650
Yeah, because payroll coming up
on the 15th payroll money had

581
00:34:55,650 --> 00:34:58,710
already been sent into Silicon
Valley Bank or sent or supposed

582
00:34:58,710 --> 00:35:01,500
to be sent from it to the
payroll companies, they didn't

583
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:05,760
go out. So and so now. People
aren't going to get paid.

584
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:09,750
Obviously, there's a lot of
companies that are, I'd say the

585
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:12,930
majority of venture capital
backed companies are not

586
00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:16,830
profitable. They had no they,
they already had to fire people

587
00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:20,640
rein stuff in because No, it's
going to be tough if you're

588
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,640
based on advertising and may not
make any advertising money for

589
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,280
the next four years. So how are
you going to get through they

590
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,470
got a line of credit from
Silicon Valley Bank, that's

591
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:33,360
everything's dried up. So we're
gonna see firms collapsing in

592
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,360
the next few days in the next
few weeks. Let's go to CBS.

593
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,060
Unknown: Following the collapse
of Silicon Valley Bank this

594
00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:42,120
week, officials in Washington
are expressing concern

595
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:47,340
when banks experience financial
losses, it is and should be a

596
00:35:47,340 --> 00:35:49,320
matter of concern.

597
00:35:49,799 --> 00:35:53,879
Silicon Valley Bank is the 16th
largest in the country, with

598
00:35:53,879 --> 00:35:58,589
$209 billion in total assets
late last year. According to the

599
00:35:58,589 --> 00:36:02,519
FDIC, the bank is known for
serving tech startups and

600
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:03,869
venture capital firms

601
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:07,740
Silicon Valley Bank failed
largely because of its links to

602
00:36:07,740 --> 00:36:12,060
the tech industry, because
technical getting nailed by

603
00:36:12,090 --> 00:36:12,510
sorry.

604
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,290
John C Dvorak: Says It failed
because of its links to the tech

605
00:36:16,290 --> 00:36:16,980
industry.

606
00:36:17,009 --> 00:36:19,769
Adam Curry: Oh no, no, you're
gonna hear every single boat

607
00:36:19,769 --> 00:36:23,549
bull crap. You're gonna hear all
kinds of bullshit stuff in the

608
00:36:23,549 --> 00:36:24,299
next few days,

609
00:36:24,330 --> 00:36:27,990
Unknown: largely because of its
links to the tech industry,

610
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:33,690
because tech is getting nailed
by all the rising interest rates

611
00:36:33,690 --> 00:36:35,400
and changing consumer
preferences.

612
00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:38,730
Regulators shut down the bank.
Do you want to

613
00:36:38,940 --> 00:36:40,350
Adam Curry: want to call out I'm
happy to stop you want to

614
00:36:40,350 --> 00:36:40,650
comment?

615
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,750
John C Dvorak: No, I'm just
saying this guy's whoever this

616
00:36:42,750 --> 00:36:45,750
analyst is is full of crap.
Surprise, surprise,

617
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:48,030
Unknown: a rising interest rates
and changing consumer

618
00:36:48,030 --> 00:36:48,750
preferences.

619
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:52,259
On Friday, state regulators shut
down the bank transferring

620
00:36:52,259 --> 00:36:56,159
control of his assets to a new
institution controlled by the

621
00:36:56,159 --> 00:37:00,269
FDIC. In a statement, the agency
said customers would be able to

622
00:37:00,269 --> 00:37:04,619
access their funds no later than
Monday morning. But it only

623
00:37:04,619 --> 00:37:09,509
insurance deposits up to
$250,000. The bank serves some

624
00:37:09,509 --> 00:37:13,799
major companies like Roku,
Pinterest, Shopify and Etsy,

625
00:37:14,009 --> 00:37:17,789
which warn sellers that some
deposits may be delayed, small

626
00:37:17,789 --> 00:37:21,209
business owner Amber fields now
swept up in the chaos,

627
00:37:21,450 --> 00:37:25,170
and another three are in small
business, I get this in my home,

628
00:37:25,770 --> 00:37:27,450
those funds, feed my family and

629
00:37:27,450 --> 00:37:31,380
pay my bills. The effect is also
being felt overseas, with

630
00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:34,890
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu saying his government

631
00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:38,100
will take steps to assist
businesses that are impacted.

632
00:37:38,130 --> 00:37:40,320
Adam Curry: Ah, yes, I should
have mentioned Israeli companies

633
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,230
as well. Of course, there's a
lot of investment from Silicon

634
00:37:43,230 --> 00:37:45,960
Valley and Israeli companies. So
it's going to it's going to

635
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,720
affect a lot. Now, here's a
couple of fun, fun little

636
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:54,840
things. Silicon Valley Bank CEO
Greg Becker. He actually until

637
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,800
this happened, he was on the
board of directors for the San

638
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:05,910
Francisco Federal Reserve Bank.
The what is it? The what's the

639
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:13,770
guy's name? The who was it? I
think the not maybe the Chief

640
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,330
Operating Officer. Or maybe
Yeah, I think was the chief

641
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,650
operating officer. He actually
was at Lehman Brothers, when it

642
00:38:22,650 --> 00:38:25,320
collapsed. So you know, there
was just they were very involved

643
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,550
in diversity, equity inclusion
focused on lots of important

644
00:38:29,550 --> 00:38:34,080
things like that. And meanwhile,
they just weren't exposed to all

645
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,400
kinds of problems. Now, what
this also did and hasn't been

646
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,180
mentioned that much, but will be
is it made people around

647
00:38:42,210 --> 00:38:45,510
America, certainly nervous about
regional banks and regional

648
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:48,870
banks, just like Silicon Valley
Bank, did not have to have the

649
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:52,500
same type of over
capitalization. That the big,

650
00:38:53,490 --> 00:38:56,940
too big to fail banks have. And
so there's their stocks were

651
00:38:56,940 --> 00:39:00,210
down, you will see what happens.
But what is happening this

652
00:39:00,210 --> 00:39:03,900
weekend, as people are, you
know, their bank runs happen

653
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:06,630
because people have no faith, it
may not even be an actual

654
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:10,110
problem with the bank. So if
people just saying all weekend

655
00:39:10,110 --> 00:39:13,080
long, oh, man, you know, the
regional bank, you go down, but

656
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,090
to get your money out of the
bank, there could be a run on

657
00:39:15,090 --> 00:39:19,080
regional banks. And that could
actually be very serious. But

658
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,160
it's not because there's
necessarily anything wrong. Now

659
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,820
we go to CNN, who literally
could not get anyone better than

660
00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:29,220
Robert Reich. To explain it to
us.

661
00:39:29,250 --> 00:39:33,690
Unknown: What does this mean for
people outside of Silicon Valley

662
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:37,680
Bank? Universe? What does it
mean for the average borrower,

663
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,370
if anything?

664
00:39:39,390 --> 00:39:42,240
So far, it doesn't mean
anything. But the big question

665
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:47,910
is one of contagion. That is
what we saw in 2008 was when one

666
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:52,620
big bank, a couple of others
started to fail, could not pay

667
00:39:52,620 --> 00:39:56,400
their depositors could not
actually pay up what they owed.

668
00:39:56,910 --> 00:40:00,900
They were closed, and regulators
had to And moving very, very

669
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:06,090
quickly about we ended up with a
financial crisis. Because of you

670
00:40:06,090 --> 00:40:10,530
know, one vague banking card
easily starts tipping over other

671
00:40:10,530 --> 00:40:13,860
cards, it's a house of cards.
Now, we don't know yet about

672
00:40:13,890 --> 00:40:18,300
contagion, we what we do know is
that this bank was obviously

673
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:22,140
over extended. And this is
related to the Fed because as

674
00:40:22,140 --> 00:40:25,920
interest rates went up, and as
and this bank was lending to a

675
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,970
lot of startups, this bank
simply could not handle it. I

676
00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:33,870
think that this is the biggest
economic news today, it is not

677
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,040
this jobs report, the Drudge
Report was good. And it's kind

678
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,730
of signals to me a soft landing.
But I think that in terms of

679
00:40:41,730 --> 00:40:46,950
what the Fed is going to do,
this bank implosion of this

680
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:53,640
potential contagion may reverse
Jerome Pauwels direction, it may

681
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,750
lead to, instead of a half a
point increase at the March

682
00:40:57,750 --> 00:41:01,050
meeting, it may lead to no
increase at all. In fact, it's

683
00:41:01,050 --> 00:41:05,430
even conceivable that interest
rates start dropping at the fear

684
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,380
that we're going to be in deep
trouble.

685
00:41:08,670 --> 00:41:11,730
Adam Curry: So I'm sure this is
what a lot of people certainly

686
00:41:11,730 --> 00:41:15,240
in the tech sector would love,
hey, let's get that quantitative

687
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:18,000
easing, let's get money cheaper.
Again, we need to have cheap

688
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,230
money, which of course will only
result in higher inflation for

689
00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:26,970
you know, you for the prices for
your, your groceries, etc. And

690
00:41:26,970 --> 00:41:30,360
so now we're in the what are we
going to do phase and we've got,

691
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:34,980
typically, you know, they can
find a buyer for bank like this,

692
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,310
like JPMorgan Chase would be a
good one that get it for for

693
00:41:38,310 --> 00:41:43,110
almost nothing. And anyone who
had money in there might lose

694
00:41:43,110 --> 00:41:47,400
10%, maybe more. You know, that
depends on the deal that they

695
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:54,480
cut. But already, Washington and
Silicon Valley are talking about

696
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,250
a special vehicle, the Federal
Reserve, we need a bailout. This

697
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:04,770
is this is going to be
interesting. If if the Federal

698
00:42:04,770 --> 00:42:09,870
Reserve forces, you know,
however they do that forces a

699
00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:14,190
bailout. You know, and this is
really only it's only $100

700
00:42:14,190 --> 00:42:17,550
billion. I mean, you know, the
money we gave, so called gave to

701
00:42:17,550 --> 00:42:22,110
Ukraine could fix this problem.
But if you start going down that

702
00:42:22,110 --> 00:42:24,570
road, you know, who knows where
it's going to end up,

703
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:28,950
Unknown: you have advocated for
the Fed to stop increasing the

704
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:33,330
interest rate why we before this
issue with Silicon Valley Bank,

705
00:42:33,690 --> 00:42:38,670
as simply because I don't see
any wage price. Inflation wages,

706
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,940
according to Jerome Powell are
pushing up prices. Well, that's

707
00:42:41,940 --> 00:42:45,120
simply not the case. Look at
today's report, for example, we

708
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,740
are seeing the smallest wage
increase in over a year, prices

709
00:42:49,740 --> 00:42:53,220
continue to rise. That is
absolutely true. But wages are

710
00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:55,770
not pushing them up. It's not
that workers are doing so

711
00:42:55,770 --> 00:42:58,470
wonderfully well. But what's
pushing up many prices

712
00:42:58,470 --> 00:43:02,310
domestically in big companies
that want to increase their

713
00:43:02,310 --> 00:43:06,480
profit margins. And so they have
monopolies or near monopolies

714
00:43:06,510 --> 00:43:10,800
oligopolies. They are using the
opportunity using inflation as

715
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,640
an excuse to put up their
prices. So this is at its at its

716
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,900
bottom here. It really is an
antitrust monopolization issue.

717
00:43:18,990 --> 00:43:21,870
It is not a Fed interest rate
problem.

718
00:43:23,490 --> 00:43:27,060
Adam Curry: The venture capital
firms, 350 of them have written

719
00:43:27,060 --> 00:43:30,360
an open letter. Say that hey,
you know, we'll work with any

720
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,520
new owner if you find one. But
we get stories like this. More

721
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:41,550
than 60%. John, of community
solar financing involves Silicon

722
00:43:41,550 --> 00:43:44,880
Valley Bank, we will not be able
to stop climate change if these

723
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,790
companies go out of business.
Oh, yeah. Good one. Oh, yeah.

724
00:43:47,820 --> 00:43:50,760
Oh, yeah. Wait for it. You can
just wait for that to happen.

725
00:43:51,450 --> 00:43:54,090
It's like, oh, no, these are
none of these companies are

726
00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:56,220
making any money. And they're
not supposed to. That's why

727
00:43:56,220 --> 00:44:00,240
they're venture funded. But it
also may just be a great moment

728
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:04,170
for the venture capital money
companies to write off a whole

729
00:44:04,170 --> 00:44:07,950
bunch of really bad investments
because everyone's just looking

730
00:44:07,950 --> 00:44:10,350
for, you know, it's a crapshoot.
Hey, let me get the next

731
00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:13,110
unicorn. Yeah, we'll invest in
that and invest in this. It's

732
00:44:13,110 --> 00:44:17,130
kind of it's been very fun to
watch Jason Calacanis. He's now

733
00:44:17,130 --> 00:44:22,500
tweeting in all caps. He's
beside himself. Because he, you

734
00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:28,290
know, he, he's like an angel
investor, and his whole it's a

735
00:44:28,290 --> 00:44:32,670
very simple process, but
basically, he gets people to

736
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:36,720
give him money, he invest their
money, and then he pitches those

737
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:40,500
companies to actual venture
capital firms. I'm kind of

738
00:44:40,770 --> 00:44:45,000
giving an abbreviation. So he,
he's holding a bag, a machine,

739
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,130
not personally, but his
investors are gonna be holding a

740
00:44:47,130 --> 00:44:52,680
big bag of crap. Now, when
something like this happens, I

741
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,900
am typically all ready to jump
in and say hi, this is how they

742
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:02,160
introduced the central bank
digital currency. You do not

743
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,760
have to do that. Because
everyone else is doing it for me

744
00:45:05,790 --> 00:45:06,990
like General Flynn,

745
00:45:07,049 --> 00:45:11,729
Unknown: I want people to go
read executive order 14067

746
00:45:11,909 --> 00:45:17,699
Executive Order 14067 signed by
Uncle Joe, the Eighth of March

747
00:45:17,699 --> 00:45:22,859
of 22. And it went into effect
13 December 2022. So just this

748
00:45:22,859 --> 00:45:27,359
past summer, and there are
already corporations and

749
00:45:27,359 --> 00:45:29,849
elements of our US government
that are already beta testing

750
00:45:29,849 --> 00:45:33,539
what's called Central Bank,
digital currency, Central Bank,

751
00:45:33,539 --> 00:45:36,059
digital currency. That's what
that executive order is all

752
00:45:36,059 --> 00:45:36,479
about.

753
00:45:36,659 --> 00:45:40,979
Adam Curry: And this was
accentuated on Friday on Tucker

754
00:45:40,979 --> 00:45:44,189
show, which I do not watch
anymore, but the people sent me

755
00:45:44,189 --> 00:45:47,969
the clip. So how could I avoid
Kristi, noem? Who was the

756
00:45:47,999 --> 00:45:50,219
governor of what is she South
Dakota? I think she saw it.

757
00:45:50,219 --> 00:45:56,339
Yeah. And she mentioned that the
UCC update. In fact, Article

758
00:45:56,339 --> 00:46:00,689
Nine UCC is the universal
commercial code. I think it's

759
00:46:01,289 --> 00:46:05,129
something that originates with
lobbyist in Washington, DC, it

760
00:46:05,129 --> 00:46:10,499
goes to the states, the states
have to ratify it, you know,

761
00:46:10,499 --> 00:46:13,649
states just like any other
politician, you know, Hey, you

762
00:46:13,649 --> 00:46:15,839
want what I just ratified this,
how much you give me for my

763
00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:18,989
reelection campaign. 10 grand,
okay, fine. It's too complicated

764
00:46:18,989 --> 00:46:25,229
to read. Anyway, she she vetoed
this in the South Dakota, bill

765
00:46:25,229 --> 00:46:26,849
that was passed by the
lawmakers,

766
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,910
Unknown: I became aware of this
bill, it wasn't introduced until

767
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,700
almost halfway through our
legislative session, we started

768
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:36,690
reading through this bill that
was over 110 pages long, it was

769
00:46:36,690 --> 00:46:39,900
sold as an update to the
guidelines of the universal

770
00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:44,100
Commercial Code backed by all of
our financial institutions, or

771
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:48,330
banks. As we started reading
through it, we saw the section

772
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,850
of the bill that changed the
definition of currency. And

773
00:46:50,850 --> 00:46:53,430
essentially what it did was
paved the way for a government

774
00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:59,790
led cbdc. And it also banned any
other form of cryptocurrency or

775
00:46:59,790 --> 00:47:04,200
Bitcoin or digital currency that
existed. So for me, it very

776
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,830
clearly was a threat to our
freedom. In South Dakota, we are

777
00:47:07,830 --> 00:47:11,790
the session that completes its
business earliest in the year,

778
00:47:11,790 --> 00:47:14,520
we are the first ones to really
look at this bill and find out

779
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,720
the truth of what's in it. And I
did veto that bill. I'm asking

780
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,690
my legislators to change their
minds, to make the right

781
00:47:21,690 --> 00:47:24,510
decision and help me kill this
bill once and for all. But I'm

782
00:47:24,510 --> 00:47:27,600
telling you attacker, we've got
the same language coming to over

783
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,870
20 other states, I believe, it's
to pave the way for the federal

784
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:33,810
government to control our
currency and thus control

785
00:47:33,810 --> 00:47:37,170
people, it should be alarming to
everyone and it's being sold as

786
00:47:37,170 --> 00:47:41,790
a UCC guidelines update, there's
no rush to do this. We need to

787
00:47:41,790 --> 00:47:44,010
be smart and make sure that
we're doing what we can to

788
00:47:44,010 --> 00:47:47,610
protect people. I find it ironic
that we also are having this

789
00:47:47,610 --> 00:47:49,920
discussion at the same time, we
have banks and credit card

790
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,120
companies talking about coding
gun and ammunition in a separate

791
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,570
code so they can track it. So
not only can they tie these two

792
00:47:57,570 --> 00:48:00,030
issues together, if the
government doesn't approve of

793
00:48:00,030 --> 00:48:03,000
what you're purchasing, if they
have the only form of digital

794
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,520
currency out there, and that is
endorsed and utilized in the

795
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,820
country, they can control how
you spend that money and does

796
00:48:08,940 --> 00:48:10,230
take away all your freedom.

797
00:48:11,610 --> 00:48:15,090
Adam Curry: So from a
perspective of what does that

798
00:48:15,090 --> 00:48:18,870
mean for you at home? First of
all, don't panic. If you have

799
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:22,080
more than $250,000. In one bank
account, what are you doing?

800
00:48:22,650 --> 00:48:25,950
Someone should have advised you
differently. So I think the FDIC

801
00:48:25,950 --> 00:48:30,360
insurance, although there was if
you recall, about a year and a

802
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,110
half, during COVID, there was a
whole shuffle at the top of the

803
00:48:34,110 --> 00:48:37,440
FDIC, they kicked out the
chairman of the board and they

804
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,020
brought in some woke crazy
people. So who knows what that

805
00:48:40,020 --> 00:48:42,810
what's going on there. If this
could be a part of anything? I

806
00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:47,040
don't know. There's I don't I do
not think this is going to be

807
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,590
the introduction of central
bank, digital currency this

808
00:48:49,590 --> 00:48:53,730
particular moment, it's possible
you could go to sleep, it's

809
00:48:53,730 --> 00:48:55,680
great that happens over the
weekend. All these things are

810
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,140
always supposed to happen over
the weekend, you might wake up

811
00:48:58,140 --> 00:49:01,980
with instead of dollars Fetty
coin or $50. It wouldn't mean

812
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:04,890
that much to you. Except of
course for the obvious control

813
00:49:04,890 --> 00:49:08,130
that can be implemented. It is
interesting as a side note that

814
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,990
Elon Musk has openly been
entertaining the idea of may may

815
00:49:12,990 --> 00:49:15,810
be buying Silicon Valley Bank, I
don't think he will, it seems

816
00:49:15,810 --> 00:49:19,500
like a hassle. He's getting his
licenses to do so anyway to

817
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,830
create the x.com that he's
always dreamed of. But that

818
00:49:22,830 --> 00:49:26,580
would be an interesting, an
interesting thing for it to

819
00:49:26,580 --> 00:49:30,810
happen. So just sit tight and
don't panic is what I would say

820
00:49:30,810 --> 00:49:35,130
aye, aye. But it's clear that
we're being set up for something

821
00:49:35,130 --> 00:49:39,870
like this in the future. And
that's my report.

822
00:49:40,740 --> 00:49:42,390
John C Dvorak: Well, it's a good
report. I don't think we're

823
00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:44,850
being set up for anything
necessarily. I just think this

824
00:49:44,850 --> 00:49:48,150
was a stupid idea to have
everything concentrated in this

825
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:53,190
one SIV be because of the entire
valley being somewhat corrupt in

826
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:57,420
that manner. What's the point of
having every company in Silicon

827
00:49:57,420 --> 00:50:00,720
Valley and every individual and
every payroll go through just

828
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,970
one single bank without backup,

829
00:50:03,330 --> 00:50:06,420
Adam Curry: we may we may find
out who knows I mean you don't

830
00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:07,470
really know but it

831
00:50:07,470 --> 00:50:09,300
John C Dvorak: was just got to
be corruption involved. There's

832
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:11,520
no other possibility of course,

833
00:50:11,550 --> 00:50:14,130
Adam Curry: of course. And it
was so I was Why

834
00:50:14,130 --> 00:50:16,200
John C Dvorak: should Why should
my venture capitalists tell me

835
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,240
what bank to work with? Do you
want

836
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:22,320
Adam Curry: the money son? We
had covenants in our deal. We

837
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,920
had time saying but why? Well,
because I think that they were

838
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,750
all they were shareholders.

839
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,830
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that would
be it. That's called corruption.

840
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,130
Adam Curry: Called coercion. I
don't know if it's corruption,

841
00:50:35,370 --> 00:50:39,540
but I don't know. We'll see how
bad it will certainly be a

842
00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:43,260
calling of a lot of crap that
needed to go anyway. It

843
00:50:43,530 --> 00:50:46,710
simultaneously helps the Federal
Reserve with exactly what

844
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:49,470
they've been complaining about
like well, you know, the job

845
00:50:49,470 --> 00:50:52,320
markets too strong we got to
have more unemployment. Maybe

846
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,350
this will help. I don't know how
many people will be unemployed

847
00:50:55,350 --> 00:50:59,340
where the collapse of many
companies will know in 60 days

848
00:50:59,460 --> 00:51:02,820
and maybe even less I think this
will be the story for the next

849
00:51:02,820 --> 00:51:07,320
week. And and we'll just have to
pay attention because it's very

850
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,280
possible someone or some people
will be really pushing the fear

851
00:51:13,140 --> 00:51:17,040
and I don't see you know what,
tonight at the Oscars if there's

852
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,250
a lot of Silicon Valley Bank
jokes, then you'll know that

853
00:51:20,250 --> 00:51:20,790
it's coming

854
00:51:22,530 --> 00:51:24,750
John C Dvorak: I don't think
they can deliver a joke

855
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:27,930
Adam Curry: they can change the
carpet

856
00:51:29,070 --> 00:51:35,070
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think
carpet was on sale to call this

857
00:51:35,070 --> 00:51:39,420
dog shit brown carpet champagne
we got it she

858
00:51:39,450 --> 00:51:43,560
Adam Curry: champagne you my
dear friend Sean Panya I if

859
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,380
they're gonna do anything wild
with Central Bank digital

860
00:51:46,380 --> 00:51:49,830
currency at whatever level
whatever version it won't happen

861
00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:54,990
until the Ukraine war is over. I
think that's that's that's what

862
00:51:54,990 --> 00:51:55,800
I'm waiting for.

863
00:51:56,490 --> 00:51:58,800
John C Dvorak: Well, let's
listen to some you look Ukraine

864
00:51:59,070 --> 00:52:03,360
clips I have a bunch Oh good.
The word logistics clips these

865
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,750
are all this is actually I
consider these these five clips

866
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:10,920
to be an excellent backgrounder
on Well, I don't know what

867
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,140
they're trying to accomplish. It
seems as though they're looking

868
00:52:13,140 --> 00:52:19,200
at this war some way to stress
tested the the defense industry

869
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,250
in some way. Oh, because they
can't make enough stuff. For

870
00:52:23,250 --> 00:52:26,100
these Ukrainians. These guys are
unbelievable, but let's go with

871
00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:28,590
Ukraine war of logistics. One
been

872
00:52:28,620 --> 00:52:31,200
Unknown: 80 years since a war
with logistics on this

873
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,570
industrial scale. Ukraine fires
as many 155 millimeter artillery

874
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rounds and about

875
00:52:37,140 --> 00:52:39,120
Adam Curry: horses from who did
this report because I liked that

876
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editing right off the bat.

877
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,030
John C Dvorak: This is that may
have been me. This is NPR alle

878
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:48,390
Unknown: Ukraine fires as many
145 times

879
00:52:49,980 --> 00:52:54,060
John C Dvorak: throughout this
report, there are scattered some

880
00:52:54,060 --> 00:53:00,780
really new explosions, rocket
launchers and machine guns. And

881
00:53:00,810 --> 00:53:03,390
he's talking to one guy in an
office and you're hearing this

882
00:53:03,390 --> 00:53:06,090
stuff. Psycho Washington DC is
under attack.

883
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:14,400
Adam Curry: Wait, I had I had
this that's that's the new

884
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,130
Ukraine war sound effect we
picked up earlier so we'll see

885
00:53:17,130 --> 00:53:18,090
if they use that one.

886
00:53:18,930 --> 00:53:22,440
Unknown: Ukraine fires as many
155 millimeter artillery rounds

887
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,760
in about five days, as the US
produces in a month. Many of

888
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:32,940
them are forged finished at 1500
degrees and painted here and

889
00:53:32,940 --> 00:53:37,200
1950s factory in Scranton,
Pennsylvania. The machinery is

890
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,490
decades old. But until now it's
suited us needs Iraq and

891
00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:48,120
Afghanistan. We're not dueling
artillery battles. But today,

892
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,960
the 20,000 artillery shells the
plant creates every 30 days is a

893
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,290
fraction of Ukraine's needs.
Ukraine's defense minister

894
00:53:55,290 --> 00:53:58,440
Alexei Resnikoff recently wrote
to the European Union and let

895
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,610
her describe to PBS news hour
that Ukraine can only fire 1/5

896
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of what it could because of
munition shortages. We saw that

897
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ourselves on the outskirts of
Baku in eastern Ukraine. This

898
00:54:11,790 --> 00:54:14,520
team told us they did not have
enough artillery to fire

899
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,480
constantly Oleksandr commands
and artillery unit in the 93rd

900
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brigade

901
00:54:19,140 --> 00:54:20,850
Do you have what you

902
00:54:20,850 --> 00:54:23,700
need in order to complete this
fight?

903
00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:27,810
Unless yet? We do have equipment
but we need more. And we need

904
00:54:27,810 --> 00:54:31,740
more and more and more because
they won't stop until we stop

905
00:54:31,740 --> 00:54:32,070
them.

906
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The current rate of Ukraine's
ammunition expenditure is many

907
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times higher than our current
rate of production.

908
00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:43,980
Last month, NATO Secretary
General Jens Stoltenberg said

909
00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:46,890
defense industry couldn't
deliver fast enough and how to

910
00:54:46,890 --> 00:54:48,030
expand quickly.

911
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This is now becoming a grinding
war or attrition. And the war of

912
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attrition is a war over
logistics.

913
00:54:55,590 --> 00:54:57,960
Adam Curry: Yeah, no one wants
to pony up we just we're just

914
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,640
not making them the old am
making

915
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,050
John C Dvorak: Opening up as
much as we can in Scranton, now

916
00:55:04,050 --> 00:55:04,560
the

917
00:55:05,730 --> 00:55:06,930
Adam Curry: president's home

918
00:55:07,830 --> 00:55:12,660
John C Dvorak: so what's the
what's the last war of attrition

919
00:55:13,260 --> 00:55:15,960
that we've had in the last 100
years?

920
00:55:16,410 --> 00:55:19,440
Adam Curry: What is in this
context? What does attrition

921
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:19,890
mean?

922
00:55:20,490 --> 00:55:24,600
John C Dvorak: That means you
just keep killing people Iraq

923
00:55:25,050 --> 00:55:30,510
there at World War One that was
the classic war of attrition

924
00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:34,020
there was nothing no strategy
there wasn't any just killing

925
00:55:34,020 --> 00:55:37,920
everybody as fast as you can
they kill as many as you can and

926
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they can they kill as many as
they can you kill as many as you

927
00:55:40,770 --> 00:55:44,790
can. And that's the attrition
we're talking about people. So

928
00:55:44,790 --> 00:55:49,050
this is a this is basically a
war of well of war of attrition,

929
00:55:49,050 --> 00:55:52,530
where you just keep killing this
is a killing mess. This is a

930
00:55:52,530 --> 00:55:56,580
world war one style. outbreak or
we

931
00:55:56,580 --> 00:56:02,430
Adam Curry: call it World War
1.5. Okay, sorry, I didn't mean

932
00:56:02,430 --> 00:56:03,300
to piss you off.

933
00:56:04,140 --> 00:56:06,870
John C Dvorak: Worldwide domain.
That's the SP that people listen

934
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:07,320
to the show.

935
00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:11,760
Adam Curry: I wonder how those
bombs sound at 2x speed. Pew

936
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:12,720
pew, pew.

937
00:56:13,980 --> 00:56:16,320
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
exactly what they sound like. So

938
00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:20,070
right there. He's telling us
that this is a version of World

939
00:56:20,070 --> 00:56:24,660
War One. Don't the world then
did last great war, the last

940
00:56:24,660 --> 00:56:27,660
war. I mean, this is
unbelievable. It's given it

941
00:56:27,660 --> 00:56:30,210
away. Okay, let's go to clip two
sorry. The

942
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:35,160
Unknown: US Defense industrial
base is not fully prepared to

943
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:40,320
conduct an industrial style war
or to deter that kind of war.

944
00:56:40,350 --> 00:56:43,230
SETH JONES directs the
international security program

945
00:56:43,230 --> 00:56:46,200
at the Center for Strategic and
International Studies, and

946
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,320
recently wrote a report about a
shortage of material and

947
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,810
materials in a wartime
environment.

948
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:56,010
The US has had an operational
plan for major war, but I think

949
00:56:56,010 --> 00:57:00,690
what hasn't happened is to tie
those plans directly to

950
00:57:00,690 --> 00:57:02,880
acquisitions needs right now.

951
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,660
Already, the US has sent from
its stockpiles more than $32

952
00:57:06,660 --> 00:57:09,750
billion worth of weapons,
including more than a million

953
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:14,790
155 millimeter shells, 1600
shoulder fired Stinger anti

954
00:57:14,790 --> 00:57:20,340
aircraft missiles, 8500 javelin,
anti tank weapons 1800 Phoenix

955
00:57:20,340 --> 00:57:23,880
ghost drones and 38 High
Mobility Artillery Rocket

956
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:24,540
systems

957
00:57:24,570 --> 00:57:29,370
what the US has been able to do
is use a range of stockpiles of

958
00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:32,610
weapons. The challenge, though,
is that a number of those

959
00:57:32,610 --> 00:57:36,810
stockpiles are now decreasing,
and the production lines are

960
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,370
rising to levels that we need
them for future contingencies.

961
00:57:42,270 --> 00:57:45,300
It's not only about Ukraine, the
military always plans for

962
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:49,770
contingencies including a war in
the Pacific with China. What was

963
00:57:49,770 --> 00:57:52,110
Adam Curry: that thing that just
slid off there? That sounded

964
00:57:52,110 --> 00:57:52,590
like a

965
00:57:53,850 --> 00:57:58,830
John C Dvorak: like time Mars
probably. So we've given them a

966
00:57:58,830 --> 00:58:03,600
million shells. And they're
telling us is not enough. We

967
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:10,020
need five times more. They've
shot a million shells. It were

968
00:58:10,020 --> 00:58:14,280
to watch a million shells. Yes,

969
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,460
Adam Curry: a million a million
I tell you, why not.

970
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,930
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's go to
clip three.

971
00:58:25,860 --> 00:58:28,350
Unknown: And now the defense
department is spending billions

972
00:58:28,350 --> 00:58:31,320
to increase production,
including modernizing the

973
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,430
Scranton plant, as seen in these
before and after photos.

974
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,540
Already, production has
increased nearly 50%. Overall,

975
00:58:39,570 --> 00:58:43,050
the army hopes to increase
artillery production 500% In the

976
00:58:43,050 --> 00:58:46,920
next two years, the largest
production expansion since the

977
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,910
Korean War, build a plant as the
Undersecretary of Defense for

978
00:58:50,910 --> 00:58:54,240
Acquisition and sustainment. I
spoke to him on Wednesday, and

979
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,660
began by asking him whether the
West could meet Ukraine's needs

980
00:58:57,660 --> 00:58:58,560
for artillery,

981
00:58:58,830 --> 00:59:01,140
we will do our best and we have
been doing our best to meet the

982
00:59:01,140 --> 00:59:03,540
demand as it comes in. And, of
course, the devils in the

983
00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:08,130
details as to which caliber but
yes, the piece showed the 155

984
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,640
millimeter we have already
funded the factory at

985
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,250
significant amounts to get their
production rate ultimately up at

986
00:59:14,250 --> 00:59:17,040
five times that amount, which is
almost unprecedented and it's

987
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,100
not just producing But what
we're also buying and getting

988
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:22,890
from around the world and
different stocks to supply with

989
00:59:22,890 --> 00:59:26,040
the Ukrainians need every day.
We try to move something to the

990
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,170
left whether it's finding
equipment and another country we

991
00:59:28,170 --> 00:59:31,200
can ship in, or anything we can
do to find stocks as we

992
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,720
just saw Ukrainian soldiers just
a few weeks ago I started back

993
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,150
when they told me they didn't
have enough that was an

994
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:39,270
artillery piece and older
artillery piece. Soviet era I

995
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:41,670
was with another mortar unit.
They said they didn't have

996
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:45,060
enough mortars also firing
Soviet era mortars This isn't

997
00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:48,570
only about American European
weapons, it's also about getting

998
00:59:48,780 --> 00:59:51,750
Ukraine older weapons which many
other units still use, right?

999
00:59:51,780 --> 00:59:55,560
That's exactly right. It's a
constant challenge of do we find

1000
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,710
or produce the old Soviet or
Russian equipment? Or do we give

1001
00:59:58,710 --> 01:00:01,050
them the new equipment and And
that's we go through that every

1002
01:00:01,050 --> 01:00:01,320
day.

1003
01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:04,530
Adam Curry: It kind of reminds
me in the Netherlands, as you

1004
01:00:04,530 --> 01:00:09,000
know, on December 31, you can go
pick up your pre purchase

1005
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,500
fireworks and you can legally
set well, they changed the rules

1006
01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:17,400
a bit this year, but you can
legally set it off for New

1007
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,900
Year's Eve. And it's like, you
know, we'd go and we'd have our

1008
01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:24,780
parents, you know, vouch for us,
or whatever we get, we get our

1009
01:00:24,780 --> 01:00:27,180
big bag, and we but of course,
we'd have that a week in

1010
01:00:27,180 --> 01:00:30,030
advance, and we'd be shooting
stuff off. And then it's just

1011
01:00:30,030 --> 01:00:34,020
like, then it's just on the 31st
all day long, just as much as

1012
01:00:34,020 --> 01:00:39,360
you can just write that from our
mind my mind than just blowing

1013
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:45,210
stuff up. But it's it's doing
nothing. It's it's just blowing

1014
01:00:45,210 --> 01:00:47,310
it. Are they just blowing up our
stockpiles?

1015
01:00:47,940 --> 01:00:49,230
John C Dvorak: That's what it
looks like.

1016
01:00:49,410 --> 01:00:51,960
Adam Curry: So what happens if
China wants to fight us? We got

1017
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:52,470
nothing.

1018
01:00:54,660 --> 01:00:56,250
John C Dvorak: to crank it up.
Yeah. Well,

1019
01:00:56,279 --> 01:01:01,349
Adam Curry: then we'll crank it
up. No, this is this makes no

1020
01:01:01,349 --> 01:01:01,889
sense.

1021
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,490
John C Dvorak: Well, they make
the point that the Korean War we

1022
01:01:05,490 --> 01:01:09,240
had that we cranked it up. So I
looked at the military budget

1023
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,680
for the Korean War. And during
that era, the military budget

1024
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,990
for the United States during
that when we had it cranked up

1025
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:20,970
because of the Korean War. The
military budget was 44 point 9

1026
01:01:20,970 --> 01:01:25,650
billion, which is less you know,
less is this bit in the back of

1027
01:01:25,650 --> 01:01:29,670
a list that's balanced it for
inflation. Does it make it

1028
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,120
Adam Curry: 400,000? Maybe even
400 400? million? Yeah, that's

1029
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,370
still half half of our current
budget.

1030
01:01:35,790 --> 01:01:39,120
John C Dvorak: Yeah, less than
half. But that boy, that's what

1031
01:01:39,180 --> 01:01:40,470
we're cranking it up. But

1032
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:43,470
Adam Curry: that budget is not
going into ammunition. I look at

1033
01:01:43,470 --> 01:01:49,500
the email every day, I saw
another one $3 billion to Hawaii

1034
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:55,470
to build a dry dock. Okay, I'm
sure we need it. Now, that just

1035
01:01:55,620 --> 01:02:00,690
it's just being spent on junk.
Not will not ammo,

1036
01:02:03,300 --> 01:02:04,620
John C Dvorak: Glarus, good
except for

1037
01:02:04,650 --> 01:02:06,450
Unknown: but on air defense,
specifically, I've been told

1038
01:02:06,450 --> 01:02:09,960
they're running out of s 300,
parts weapons all over the

1039
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,760
world. And so therefore, they
have to go to West,

1040
01:02:11,790 --> 01:02:13,980
I think I think for air
defenses, and frankly, for

1041
01:02:13,980 --> 01:02:17,520
ground forces, what you're
seeing is having to go from the

1042
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,640
old Soviet systems to almost
certainly western systems for

1043
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:21,390
the reasons you said.

1044
01:02:21,570 --> 01:02:24,120
And this is all of course,
before we get to Ukraine Spring

1045
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,060
Offensive, you are trying to
figure out how to get all these

1046
01:02:27,060 --> 01:02:30,870
armored vehicles and their parts
into Ukraine. How do you know

1047
01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:34,020
that they'll have enough of
those munitions, those parts,

1048
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:36,540
those modern weapons, to be able
to launch some kind of counter

1049
01:02:36,540 --> 01:02:37,650
offensive in the coming week,
what

1050
01:02:37,650 --> 01:02:40,140
we're doing is working with the
Germans, the poles and the other

1051
01:02:40,140 --> 01:02:43,080
countries, when we have a
shortfall in parts save for a

1052
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,410
certain version of leopards to
scour and find those parts, even

1053
01:02:46,410 --> 01:02:48,810
to the extent we can find
advanced manufacturing to 3d

1054
01:02:48,810 --> 01:02:52,260
print. So we're working on each
one. And the idea is to make

1055
01:02:52,260 --> 01:02:55,110
sure that there are enough parts
to sustain for each model. Why

1056
01:02:55,110 --> 01:02:55,410
not

1057
01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:58,680
give Ukraine the longer range
weapon known as the attack them,

1058
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,850
which would fly 180 miles that
it's been requested that so far,

1059
01:03:02,850 --> 01:03:04,170
the administration has refused?
Yeah,

1060
01:03:04,170 --> 01:03:08,280
it's been a policy decision to
date that the long range weapons

1061
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,830
which we have been providing,
which is about an 80 Kilometer

1062
01:03:10,830 --> 01:03:13,860
precision guided weapon is
sufficient and range for the

1063
01:03:13,860 --> 01:03:17,760
targets that they have, I think
for when you get into types of

1064
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,270
capabilities are well beyond it,
you get into policy issues, and

1065
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:24,210
sustainment issues of whether or
not it's an escalatory thing.

1066
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,670
If I could, though, intelligence
officials told me that

1067
01:03:26,670 --> 01:03:30,660
specifically the capacity of the
attacker and the range of the

1068
01:03:30,660 --> 01:03:33,840
attack and is a red line for the
Kremlin in terms of what Ukraine

1069
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,380
would be able to hit if it were
to use that weapon in Russia.

1070
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:40,380
But why is that a concern given
that Ukraine has promised not to

1071
01:03:40,380 --> 01:03:43,890
use American weapons inside
Russia? Like we're not,

1072
01:03:44,130 --> 01:03:47,010
John C Dvorak: Oh, no. Promise
not to use it?

1073
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:50,070
Adam Curry: We're not going to
send anything to Moscow.

1074
01:03:56,310 --> 01:03:59,610
So those trusted Yeah, we should
trust them when they say that we

1075
01:03:59,610 --> 01:04:00,150
should just try.

1076
01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:02,520
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they
promise. We'll just trust them.

1077
01:04:02,790 --> 01:04:05,940
Because they've never been known
for the dishonest ever,

1078
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,210
Adam Curry: ever. It's Ukraine.
You can trust Ukraine? That's

1079
01:04:09,210 --> 01:04:09,810
not correct. So

1080
01:04:09,810 --> 01:04:11,700
John C Dvorak: it sounds like
that there. You're still using

1081
01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:15,690
Soviet gear that we have to
supply parts for? Yeah. And we

1082
01:04:15,690 --> 01:04:19,530
have to scrounge the parts from
all over the place. And we even

1083
01:04:19,530 --> 01:04:25,470
have to put the Soviet gear we
have to, to 3d print some of

1084
01:04:25,470 --> 01:04:27,510
these things, which probably
don't have templates,

1085
01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:30,840
necessarily, but I'm sure
there's enough engineers around,

1086
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:36,030
they can 3d print some of these
parts, which is the future. And

1087
01:04:36,030 --> 01:04:41,100
it's just a fiasco at this
point. But at least there's some

1088
01:04:42,810 --> 01:04:46,770
kind of light at the end of the
tunnel, maybe. But you have to

1089
01:04:46,770 --> 01:04:50,340
listen to this clip. And you can
kind of tell that what the

1090
01:04:50,340 --> 01:04:53,010
Ukrainians would think is not
necessarily what we're thinking

1091
01:04:53,070 --> 01:04:56,220
how this thing comes to an end,
which you think is going to be

1092
01:04:56,220 --> 01:04:59,010
sooner than later and I'm not
going to disagree with that, but

1093
01:04:59,010 --> 01:05:02,850
I'm not totally convinced. But
there is a little guy, there's a

1094
01:05:02,850 --> 01:05:06,930
funny little gag at the end of
this guy, this assistant,

1095
01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:10,800
defense guy. So here we go.
Well, I

1096
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,120
Unknown: think it's one of the
concerns. I think there's

1097
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,210
multiple concerns. And the other
piece of it is what to what

1098
01:05:15,210 --> 01:05:17,700
extent it will make a big
difference in the battle. And

1099
01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:19,320
those are all part of the
calculation.

1100
01:05:19,890 --> 01:05:24,450
To what end? Are you trying to
procure weapons for Ukraine to

1101
01:05:24,450 --> 01:05:28,650
receive all of its territory
that it has lost since 2014.

1102
01:05:28,890 --> 01:05:31,980
We're providing everything we
can that we believe they need.

1103
01:05:31,980 --> 01:05:34,410
And I would say this, we are
going to be there with them

1104
01:05:34,590 --> 01:05:38,220
until it's over and as long as
we need to, and not for the

1105
01:05:38,220 --> 01:05:41,130
least of which is that we think
it's expensive. Now, if Putin

1106
01:05:41,130 --> 01:05:44,730
prevails, it'll be really
expensive. And so this is really

1107
01:05:44,730 --> 01:05:46,860
that important. And we were
going to provide her the

1108
01:05:46,860 --> 01:05:47,580
equipment they need

1109
01:05:47,610 --> 01:05:49,800
Ukraine argues they won't be
over until it receives his

1110
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,310
Crimea.

1111
01:05:51,330 --> 01:05:52,770
That that may be their view.

1112
01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:56,010
Adam Curry: That may be their
view.

1113
01:05:57,090 --> 01:05:59,160
John C Dvorak: Play to the end
again, and don't step on it

1114
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,240
because he giggles

1115
01:06:00,270 --> 01:06:02,550
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, I didn't
hear the giggle. I'm sorry, but

1116
01:06:02,550 --> 01:06:02,940
they need

1117
01:06:02,970 --> 01:06:05,160
Unknown: Ukraine arguing won't
be over until it receives his

1118
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:05,670
Crimea.

1119
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,130
That that may be their view.

1120
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,760
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
Well, already Solinsky was

1121
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,570
denied appearing in the Oscar
ceremony tonight.

1122
01:06:18,810 --> 01:06:20,160
John C Dvorak: Yes, good for
them.

1123
01:06:20,250 --> 01:06:23,370
Adam Curry: Well, here's what I
like about the story. He has an

1124
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,660
agent William Morris
entertainment pleated made a

1125
01:06:27,660 --> 01:06:30,270
plea to the academy to spotlight
Zelinsky

1126
01:06:31,380 --> 01:06:34,290
John C Dvorak: he hasn't we
can't even get a mortgage agent

1127
01:06:34,290 --> 01:06:34,800
I mean, Mike

1128
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,770
Adam Curry: Simpson Hey, Mike
Simpson William mortgage eight

1129
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:42,780
entertainment agent. What? Thank
you, we should be able to get

1130
01:06:42,780 --> 01:06:45,270
you as a as an agent for John's
bit part.

1131
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,240
John C Dvorak: And minify even
that yeah, there you go.

1132
01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:50,370
Adam Curry: Admitted money at
minimum.

1133
01:06:50,580 --> 01:06:54,090
John C Dvorak: Unbelievable that
this guy has the gall. He also

1134
01:06:54,090 --> 01:06:57,720
they also tell you I'm using an
agent I think is funny, but the

1135
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,680
gall it takes Hey, we have our
own we're doing something here a

1136
01:07:03,690 --> 01:07:06,810
you know, it's like, what do you
want to get involved with the

1137
01:07:06,990 --> 01:07:08,910
it's an award show? Yeah.

1138
01:07:09,420 --> 01:07:13,020
Adam Curry: Well, I'm telling
you, I My feeling is it'll be

1139
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:17,580
all Silicon Valley jokes tonight
about Silicon Valley Bank jokes.

1140
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,820
I will bet you $1 Now okay,
well, we're getting a lot of

1141
01:07:20,820 --> 01:07:23,670
dollars here. Okay. $1 You see,
I haven't gotten

1142
01:07:23,670 --> 01:07:28,020
John C Dvorak: one yet. Okay. $1
right. $1 that this will be easy

1143
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:32,190
to do. That. Will if there is
any jokes, there'll be less than

1144
01:07:32,190 --> 01:07:33,060
five total.

1145
01:07:33,930 --> 01:07:37,260
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no.
What do you mean? What did you

1146
01:07:37,260 --> 01:07:40,440
say? You're pegging it at five.
I have to have five jokes about

1147
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:40,950
that to win.

1148
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:43,830
John C Dvorak: Oh, everything's
gonna be about Silicon Valley

1149
01:07:43,830 --> 01:07:47,850
jokes. Well, blah, blah. But he
meets on one joke is counts.

1150
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,120
Adam Curry: Let's say three.

1151
01:07:53,580 --> 01:07:55,410
John C Dvorak: Okay, I'll take
your five. I'm not afraid.

1152
01:07:55,710 --> 01:07:58,380
You're gonna take the five. I'm
gonna take the five. I was just

1153
01:07:58,380 --> 01:08:01,200
about to give into the three.
Drop the ball. I'm gonna take

1154
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:01,290
the

1155
01:08:01,290 --> 01:08:03,480
Adam Curry: five. But I'll have
to write you a check for my

1156
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:08,250
Silicon Valley Bank Account.
Bloomberg came up with an

1157
01:08:08,250 --> 01:08:13,470
interesting little ditty the
other day. Yeah, EU has no clue

1158
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:17,370
of whereabouts of 86% of frozen
Russian bank central bank

1159
01:08:17,370 --> 01:08:22,500
assets. You know, there's a $300
billion that was supposedly

1160
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:25,440
frozen or scattered. They can't
find it. They couldn't find more

1161
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:30,750
than 36 point 4 billion. And
then you have Medvedev. Medvedev

1162
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:36,120
met Vijay Medvedev. He said, Oh,
May I May I point out? They have

1163
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,660
$300 billion worth of foreign
assets frozen in Russia.

1164
01:08:42,750 --> 01:08:44,190
John C Dvorak: So that's a wash
a quid

1165
01:08:44,190 --> 01:08:47,730
Adam Curry: pro quo. That's our
wash. Yeah. It cancels each

1166
01:08:47,730 --> 01:08:54,120
other out. He says he did a
happy coincidence. It would be

1167
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,780
enough to recall recompense
Russia for what might be stolen

1168
01:08:57,780 --> 01:09:01,290
from Russia. Well, that's kind
of interesting. I didn't No one.

1169
01:09:01,290 --> 01:09:05,460
No one broadcast that. No,
heaven forbid. Anyway, we're

1170
01:09:05,460 --> 01:09:10,230
still using evil Putin and
Russia to try and capture the

1171
01:09:10,230 --> 01:09:15,750
rest of the countries in the EU
sphere to try and get him into

1172
01:09:15,750 --> 01:09:22,230
NATO and try and get him into
into the war. But you see what's

1173
01:09:22,230 --> 01:09:25,860
going on in Georgia, Moldova,
though is the interesting one

1174
01:09:25,860 --> 01:09:28,620
is, you know, QQ one of our
producers, he's from Moldova.

1175
01:09:28,830 --> 01:09:32,310
And he says, you know that the
President of the woman who

1176
01:09:32,340 --> 01:09:35,370
thinks she's president or prime
minister, isn't that guy

1177
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:38,520
Moldova? No, Moldova is a woman
I what am I say? Oh, I'm

1178
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,510
thinking to Belarus, Moldova is
a woman that, you know, but

1179
01:09:42,510 --> 01:09:48,630
she's all in on EU, but the
Moldovans may not be all in on

1180
01:09:48,660 --> 01:09:53,640
EU and NATO. And here's Kirby
reacting to a question from a

1181
01:09:53,850 --> 01:09:56,820
White House correspondent who
I've never seen asked a question

1182
01:09:56,820 --> 01:10:00,840
before, and she looks Israeli in
a way but I'm not sure where

1183
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:01,260
she's from

1184
01:10:01,290 --> 01:10:05,340
Unknown: Lee has said that there
was a Russian plot to sort of

1185
01:10:05,370 --> 01:10:09,930
overthrow her government and
break Moldova's path to Europe.

1186
01:10:09,930 --> 01:10:13,230
It was something that President
Solinsky himself had also warned

1187
01:10:13,230 --> 01:10:18,060
about. What is the US says
assessment of this possible

1188
01:10:18,090 --> 01:10:22,770
plot? And more broadly, what is
the concern about Russia's

1189
01:10:22,860 --> 01:10:27,840
attempts to sort of influence
these got these pro European

1190
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,990
governments in the region, even
though it's right now focused on

1191
01:10:30,990 --> 01:10:33,180
Ukraine about other countries in
the region?

1192
01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:41,070
So we'll see about that is
deeply concerning reports.

1193
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:47,910
Certainly not outside the bounds
of Russian behavior. And we

1194
01:10:48,030 --> 01:10:53,010
absolutely stand with the modem
Moldovan government and the

1195
01:10:53,010 --> 01:10:53,850
Moldovan people

1196
01:10:54,180 --> 01:10:58,110
we have no confirmation from US
side of things

1197
01:10:58,110 --> 01:11:00,720
I know of no independent
confirmation but we're certainly

1198
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:06,810
not questioning their capacity
the will of the of the Russians

1199
01:11:06,810 --> 01:11:10,530
and Mr. Putin to try to do that
is perfectly right at page Iran

1200
01:11:10,530 --> 01:11:11,160
average playbook.

1201
01:11:11,460 --> 01:11:13,920
Adam Curry: Oh page numbers
playbook Yeah, I was gonna was

1202
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,120
talking about oh, he's gonna
take over Moldova I don't think

1203
01:11:18,150 --> 01:11:23,190
I don't think Kirby was ready
for this question. Because you

1204
01:11:23,190 --> 01:11:26,010
know, they're so focused on
Georgia trying to make it look

1205
01:11:26,010 --> 01:11:30,720
like Russia and of course if
there's a government in their

1206
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,000
day to day wants nothing to do
with the with the west they

1207
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,020
don't want to be part of NATO or
whatever they're sick and tired

1208
01:11:37,020 --> 01:11:40,320
of all this crap. Michigan
Moldova. Just take a look at the

1209
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,800
map. I'm gonna refresh my memory
and will those in such a great

1210
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:44,400
spot

1211
01:11:45,630 --> 01:11:47,580
John C Dvorak: so Moldova, if
I'm not mistaken, has that

1212
01:11:47,580 --> 01:11:51,090
little strip of land as butted
up against Ukraine? That is

1213
01:11:51,090 --> 01:11:53,220
correct. Considered Russian?

1214
01:11:53,370 --> 01:11:58,230
Adam Curry: Yes, it's on the
southwestern flank, I think.

1215
01:11:58,290 --> 01:12:00,690
John C Dvorak: Yeah, something
like that. But it's right there.

1216
01:12:00,930 --> 01:12:04,560
And it's like a buffer between
the Ukraine and main part of

1217
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:08,250
Moldova and they the Russia has
been wanting to get capture that

1218
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:09,090
they can't seem to

1219
01:12:09,870 --> 01:12:13,770
Adam Curry: right near Odessa
and it borders on Romania.

1220
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:16,890
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a
lot of talk right now that the

1221
01:12:16,890 --> 01:12:21,930
Russians are really angling to
get Odessa i think that's lost

1222
01:12:21,930 --> 01:12:23,160
cause at this point I don't

1223
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,170
Adam Curry: think they care I
think they want Dawn boss they

1224
01:12:25,170 --> 01:12:27,600
want to you know that's what
they want that's the

1225
01:12:27,930 --> 01:12:30,180
John C Dvorak: if you look at
some of the takeover maps where

1226
01:12:30,180 --> 01:12:33,270
they take over a big chunk of
Ukraine Odessa is included

1227
01:12:33,540 --> 01:12:39,090
they'd love to own all the ports
because there's money there but

1228
01:12:39,090 --> 01:12:43,320
at the Odessa is cannot go to
the Russians and probably never

1229
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,090
will but it's been discussed

1230
01:12:47,490 --> 01:12:51,450
Adam Curry: so any well that
could be for for for you know

1231
01:12:51,450 --> 01:12:53,760
five years from now when this
thing cranks up again that could

1232
01:12:53,760 --> 01:13:00,060
go get that but I don't know I'm
just not seeing much movement at

1233
01:13:00,060 --> 01:13:04,380
the Moldova thing is is weird.
It's weird. Does that mean that

1234
01:13:04,380 --> 01:13:07,410
we need we can't send anything
anymore? We have no we have no

1235
01:13:07,410 --> 01:13:11,790
ammo. We got nothing. I don't I
don't know what that what the

1236
01:13:11,790 --> 01:13:15,780
plan is. They may be at a
stalemate. And that that little

1237
01:13:15,780 --> 01:13:18,510
laugh tell you had there that
little giggle Oh, my God. Yeah,

1238
01:13:18,510 --> 01:13:21,690
that's what they think. It looks
like it's ending.

1239
01:13:23,190 --> 01:13:25,320
John C Dvorak: That's a
giveaway. This is well, that's

1240
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,410
what and it's not answering the
question either. It's like

1241
01:13:28,410 --> 01:13:35,100
saying, you know, do you think
that next the the Ukrainians

1242
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:38,760
want to take they want to take
back Crimea? And he says, Yeah,

1243
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:42,450
I've heard that's what they
think. Kind of. I don't Yeah,

1244
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,690
like, I don't think so. That's
not they're not getting that's

1245
01:13:45,690 --> 01:13:48,480
not part of it. We'll be here
forever if that happens.

1246
01:13:48,510 --> 01:13:52,050
Adam Curry: Yeah. Goodness. I
wish I wish we knew a little bit

1247
01:13:52,050 --> 01:13:52,410
more.

1248
01:13:53,070 --> 01:13:54,450
John C Dvorak: I wish they stop
it.

1249
01:13:55,980 --> 01:13:59,370
Adam Curry: What stopped the
war? Yeah. Well,

1250
01:13:59,759 --> 01:14:01,649
John C Dvorak: they have the
wherewithal they have,

1251
01:14:01,769 --> 01:14:04,949
supposedly we have diplomats
that are professionals. And

1252
01:14:04,949 --> 01:14:08,639
meanwhile, of course, we lost,
you know, the war between Saudi

1253
01:14:08,639 --> 01:14:12,839
Arabia and Iran, which is mostly
a Pyrrhic I guess, whatever you

1254
01:14:12,839 --> 01:14:16,529
want to call but they had a
proxy war going on in Yemen

1255
01:14:16,649 --> 01:14:19,829
between the two and it was
brokered to peace by the

1256
01:14:19,829 --> 01:14:20,849
Chinese.

1257
01:14:20,879 --> 01:14:23,969
Adam Curry: This was beautiful.
I have a clip pre conciliation

1258
01:14:23,970 --> 01:14:25,680
Unknown: between old enemies.

1259
01:14:26,910 --> 01:14:30,960
The declaration signed by our
kingdom, Iran and China was in

1260
01:14:31,530 --> 01:14:32,490
Canada Jose senang

1261
01:14:32,490 --> 01:14:35,670
SMent on national television in
Saudi Arabia followed the

1262
01:14:35,670 --> 01:14:39,780
release of a joint statements
with Iran to Middle Eastern

1263
01:14:39,780 --> 01:14:42,900
countries brought together
around a table in China and

1264
01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:46,290
reestablished diplomatic
relations in tissue if I were

1265
01:14:46,290 --> 01:14:46,590
YouTube.

1266
01:14:47,790 --> 01:14:51,960
Testing this thing, we agreed to
open a new chapter between the

1267
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,160
Islamic Republic of Iran and
Saudi Arabia after having no

1268
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,520
ties for seven years, while
observing the interests of both

1269
01:14:59,520 --> 01:14:59,970
countries.

1270
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,930
It's a masala shahadi This video
released by Iranian state media

1271
01:15:06,930 --> 01:15:10,560
shows Iranian and Saudi
officials alongside China's most

1272
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,160
senior diplomats. Sunni Saudi
Arabia cut ties with

1273
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:19,260
predominantly Shia Iran in 2016,
after an attack on its embassy

1274
01:15:19,260 --> 01:15:22,800
in Tehran, carried out by
Iranian protesters after the

1275
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:27,600
Saudi execution of a Shia cleric
re establishing ties could have

1276
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,260
wide implications across the
Middle East, particularly in

1277
01:15:31,260 --> 01:15:34,770
Yemen, whether two rival Gulf
powers are locked in a proxy

1278
01:15:34,770 --> 01:15:39,540
war, as well as in Iraq and in
Lebanon, Riyadh, and Tehran will

1279
01:15:39,540 --> 01:15:43,620
reopen their embassies and will
also restart economic and

1280
01:15:43,620 --> 01:15:49,140
security deals signed in 1998
and 2001. The White House

1281
01:15:49,140 --> 01:15:53,220
welcome the rapprochement saying
is a means for us to deescalate

1282
01:15:53,220 --> 01:15:57,180
tensions in the region. Because
Beijing meanwhile, praised the

1283
01:15:57,180 --> 01:15:59,160
wisdom of the two countries.

1284
01:15:59,340 --> 01:16:03,240
Adam Curry: I think this is a
baller move by China. Freely

1285
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:09,540
cool. They did this, because now
they've got Saudi Arabia, Iran,

1286
01:16:09,570 --> 01:16:12,990
Russia, they got a pretty
formidable front. Now in the

1287
01:16:12,990 --> 01:16:16,350
front, they got a formidable
group. And what does that do for

1288
01:16:16,350 --> 01:16:20,550
our sales of weapons and
training and advisors to Yemen.

1289
01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:22,440
Does that end is that over now
is there as

1290
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:24,720
John C Dvorak: well, we were
selling to Saudi Arabia, and

1291
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,010
they were using it in Yemen.

1292
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:29,130
Adam Curry: Yeah. Believe me, we
have advisors helping them out

1293
01:16:29,130 --> 01:16:29,670
in Yemen.

1294
01:16:29,970 --> 01:16:32,790
John C Dvorak: But I'm sure
Yeah, I think it puts the kibosh

1295
01:16:32,790 --> 01:16:35,760
on it it doesn't change the fact
that the Saudis will probably

1296
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,720
still keep buying our F 16. Or F
30. Fives I'm not sure what

1297
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:40,200
we're selling,

1298
01:16:40,230 --> 01:16:43,170
Adam Curry: China is going to
negotiate the peace between

1299
01:16:43,170 --> 01:16:45,570
Russia and Ukraine. This is the
this is the way

1300
01:16:45,570 --> 01:16:49,530
John C Dvorak: that was the that
was the thesis that showed up in

1301
01:16:49,530 --> 01:16:54,840
the show about a month ago. And
the fact that they did this

1302
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,710
little side bit, which is like
okay, look, here's how it works.

1303
01:16:58,710 --> 01:17:02,070
We're going to show you how good
we are. And then they negotiate

1304
01:17:02,070 --> 01:17:04,920
you want so let me pick two
crappy countries that hate each

1305
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,790
other. Let me show you how we
get these two to get together.

1306
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:12,960
Yeah. And they got him together
out of the blue by the way, I

1307
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:17,280
didn't know about this happening
know that we weren't given any

1308
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:22,080
any heads up on this by the
media, that's for sure. There

1309
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:26,220
was no precursor at all. So
boom, this happens. Okay, now we

1310
01:17:26,220 --> 01:17:30,240
can deal with the rest of it. We
can hook these two guys, we can

1311
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:34,410
get the Ukraine thing. It's an
embarrassment. Oh, yeah. We

1312
01:17:34,410 --> 01:17:39,000
praise a bullcrap. Dr. People
should be ashamed of themselves.

1313
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:39,120
They're

1314
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,250
Adam Curry: not they're
completely a blip. They don't

1315
01:17:41,250 --> 01:17:42,930
they have a board. I don't

1316
01:17:42,930 --> 01:17:46,860
John C Dvorak: believe it. Okay,
so they can't be How can you be

1317
01:17:46,860 --> 01:17:50,700
humiliated like this? Oh, they
say, well, that's great.

1318
01:17:50,730 --> 01:17:52,530
Adam Curry: Oh, they're
humiliated. But they want to

1319
01:17:52,530 --> 01:17:55,920
save face. And China is going to
let them save face. They're the

1320
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:00,480
kings of saving face. And
everything. I talked about the

1321
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:03,600
pivot to China. I'm going to
give you two examples right now.

1322
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:08,730
The first one is Avril Haines.
She represents the US. I think

1323
01:18:08,730 --> 01:18:10,530
the National Intelligence
Director,

1324
01:18:10,590 --> 01:18:13,530
John C Dvorak: she is the
dumbest woman I've ever seen in

1325
01:18:13,530 --> 01:18:14,970
the intelligence community.

1326
01:18:15,299 --> 01:18:18,629
Adam Curry: Well, she's running
it and this report, sadly, cut

1327
01:18:18,629 --> 01:18:21,569
it down. 48 seconds has some
music under it. But this is from

1328
01:18:21,629 --> 01:18:22,919
testimony in Senate

1329
01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:26,160
Unknown: in brief, the CCP
represents both the leading and

1330
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,760
most consequential threat to US
national security and leadership

1331
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,520
globally, and its intelligence
specific ambitions and

1332
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:36,750
capabilities. Make it for us our
most serious and consequential

1333
01:18:36,780 --> 01:18:40,350
intelligence rival. During the
past year, the threat has been

1334
01:18:40,350 --> 01:18:43,290
additionally complicated by a
deepening collaboration with

1335
01:18:43,290 --> 01:18:46,890
Russia, which also remains an
area obviously, of intense focus

1336
01:18:46,890 --> 01:18:49,770
for the intelligence community.
We do see them providing

1337
01:18:49,770 --> 01:18:54,690
assistance to Russia in the
context of the conflict. And we

1338
01:18:54,690 --> 01:18:58,500
see them in a situation in which
they'd become increasingly

1339
01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:03,330
uncomfortable about the level of
assistance and not looking to do

1340
01:19:03,330 --> 01:19:08,490
it as publicly as might
otherwise occur. And given the

1341
01:19:08,490 --> 01:19:11,190
reputational costs associated
with it, yeah,

1342
01:19:11,190 --> 01:19:13,800
Adam Curry: sure. They don't
care about the reputation. So

1343
01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:18,840
just bear with me for a second.
It behooves everybody for China

1344
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,110
to and the Ukraine conflict,
because we are already moving

1345
01:19:22,110 --> 01:19:25,860
away from Ukraine. You're not on
the Oscars, your agent, fire

1346
01:19:25,860 --> 01:19:28,290
your agent get a new one is not
going to work. We're not going

1347
01:19:28,290 --> 01:19:31,050
to let you on the Oscars that
happened that that right that I

1348
01:19:31,050 --> 01:19:34,680
know it's over in America, if
you're shunned from show

1349
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:38,040
business as the end of your
career, and he's an actor,

1350
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:40,860
comedian. So we have the
intelligence committee. Oh, yes.

1351
01:19:40,860 --> 01:19:42,750
Well, actually, this is why
they're very, they're very

1352
01:19:42,750 --> 01:19:45,240
sophisticated. They got
balloons, so we need some money

1353
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,880
for our intelligence. Okay,
great. So we got the dumb Avro

1354
01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:51,570
Levine over there. I have here
in front of me a memorandum

1355
01:19:52,050 --> 01:19:56,820
John C Dvorak: who is not Avril
Levine Rachel Levine.

1356
01:19:56,850 --> 01:20:00,570
Adam Curry: No, no. Abra Levine
is a singer who Aren't you gonna

1357
01:20:00,570 --> 01:20:03,750
John C Dvorak: be Chicago right?
Here? Right? Yeah, sorry.

1358
01:20:03,900 --> 01:20:06,660
Adam Curry: Who is I believe
Rachel Levine's daughter. So

1359
01:20:06,660 --> 01:20:09,990
that's very possible. I don't, I
don't know. I have in front of

1360
01:20:09,990 --> 01:20:13,290
me memorandum for all Department
of Defense personnel dated

1361
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:18,330
stamped March 2 2023. From from
our Secretary of Defense, you

1362
01:20:18,330 --> 01:20:20,640
know him if you wouldn't
recognize him because he has a

1363
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,630
mask and a shield on. I'd like
to read a little bit from this

1364
01:20:24,630 --> 01:20:27,810
memorandum. Since day one is
Secretary of Defense, I have

1365
01:20:27,810 --> 01:20:32,130
been guided by three priorities,
defending the nation, taking

1366
01:20:32,130 --> 01:20:35,640
care of our people, and
succeeding through teamwork.

1367
01:20:36,270 --> 01:20:40,020
Wow, what is he running at the
Silicon Valley startup idiot.

1368
01:20:41,250 --> 01:20:43,830
Over the past two years, we've
made tremendous progress in all

1369
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:46,680
three arenas. I'd like to thank
each and every one of you for

1370
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,770
your commitment and hard work.
As we look to the year ahead,

1371
01:20:50,010 --> 01:20:53,130
these same three priorities
continued to guide all that we

1372
01:20:53,130 --> 01:21:00,690
do. So he's prioritize these
challenges. I'm going to give

1373
01:21:00,690 --> 01:21:04,980
them to you in order of
appearance and order of priority

1374
01:21:04,980 --> 01:21:05,610
number one,

1375
01:21:05,610 --> 01:21:08,220
John C Dvorak: this is the order
of priority order of priority.

1376
01:21:08,220 --> 01:21:12,210
So number one is the most prior
buy the most prior, the most

1377
01:21:12,540 --> 01:21:13,590
high priority

1378
01:21:13,620 --> 01:21:18,330
Adam Curry: highest priority.
Exactly. defend the nation,

1379
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:26,160
prioritize China as the pacing
challenge. And increasingly

1380
01:21:26,190 --> 01:21:29,430
aggressive China is trying to
shape the international rules

1381
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:33,720
based system New World Order to
suit its authoritarian

1382
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,900
preferences. This is a
generational challenge and the

1383
01:21:36,900 --> 01:21:41,160
department will rise to meet it.
To do so we must embrace

1384
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,550
integrated deterrence, which
charges us to coordinate our

1385
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:48,420
efforts across all warfighting
domains, theatres and the

1386
01:21:48,420 --> 01:21:52,080
spectrum of conflict to create
new and more complex dilemmas

1387
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,170
for adverse adversaries. More
money,

1388
01:21:55,769 --> 01:21:57,029
John C Dvorak: adversaries.
Yeah,

1389
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:59,160
Adam Curry: that's what I meant
adversaries. Thank you. We must

1390
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,100
continue to break down
stovepipes across the department

1391
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,790
stovepipes across the
environment, improve our

1392
01:22:05,790 --> 01:22:08,850
cooperation with the interagency
and Congress and work with our

1393
01:22:08,850 --> 01:22:12,510
allies and partners to improve
operational planning, blah,

1394
01:22:12,510 --> 01:22:15,780
blah, blah. So, we are to
strengthen our deterrence

1395
01:22:15,780 --> 01:22:19,260
posture in the Indo Pacific but
developing new concepts and

1396
01:22:19,260 --> 01:22:23,880
capabilities Kuching deepening
our alliances and partnerships.

1397
01:22:23,940 --> 01:22:28,410
Hello Philippines, expanding our
activities and operations Hello

1398
01:22:28,410 --> 01:22:31,680
right off the coast of China. As
the threat from PRC evolves, we

1399
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,520
will provide Taiwan self defense
capabilities consistent with the

1400
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,580
budget we need, I'm sorry, with
the Taiwan Relations Act,

1401
01:22:38,790 --> 01:22:45,210
alright, to tackle the acute
Russian threat. We will not be

1402
01:22:45,210 --> 01:22:48,420
drawn into Putin's war of
choice, but we remain resolved

1403
01:22:48,420 --> 01:22:52,020
to defend every inch of NATO
territory. Working closely with

1404
01:22:52,020 --> 01:22:55,020
our allies. We've already
strengthened NATO's eastern

1405
01:22:55,020 --> 01:22:57,630
flank and will continue to
strengthen our collective

1406
01:22:57,630 --> 01:23:03,300
defence and deterrence. It's
over addressed advanced and

1407
01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:06,120
persistent threats. The
department will also remain

1408
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:10,050
vigilant against dangers
including North Korea, Iran and

1409
01:23:10,050 --> 01:23:13,980
the global terrorist
organizations. innovate and

1410
01:23:13,980 --> 01:23:17,790
modernize. Here we go. America's
dynamism has always been at the

1411
01:23:17,790 --> 01:23:20,640
heart of our strategic advantage
to tackle emerging challenges.

1412
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,970
We are modernizing every aspect
of the joint force from

1413
01:23:23,970 --> 01:23:28,620
hypersonic weapons to our joint
warfighting concepts comms our

1414
01:23:28,620 --> 01:23:33,150
joint warfighting concept and
American concept vehicles. From

1415
01:23:33,150 --> 01:23:38,550
data analysis to artificial
intelligence GPT war version, we

1416
01:23:38,550 --> 01:23:40,770
are also accelerating the
development of advanced

1417
01:23:40,770 --> 01:23:43,830
technologies to deliver new
capabilities to the force. This

1418
01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:49,050
sounds like a Silicon Valley
pitch. And then of course, on

1419
01:23:49,050 --> 01:23:52,740
the list, meters meet the
climate crisis.

1420
01:23:53,850 --> 01:23:56,010
John C Dvorak: Well, this number
one, no, no,

1421
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,950
Adam Curry: this is number four.
I'm giving them to you in

1422
01:23:58,950 --> 01:24:01,650
John C Dvorak: order number of
four. You've already given me

1423
01:24:01,650 --> 01:24:03,900
about 10 of them. No, I gave you
one.

1424
01:24:04,590 --> 01:24:07,770
Adam Curry: One was China. Two
was Russia. Three persistent

1425
01:24:07,770 --> 01:24:10,020
threats. Oh, yeah. Fours
innovate and Myrt and more than

1426
01:24:10,020 --> 01:24:13,770
modernized, and five I'm sorry,
is meet the climate crisis. Our

1427
01:24:13,770 --> 01:24:17,070
strategy and planning addresses
for security implications of our

1428
01:24:17,070 --> 01:24:20,550
changing climate. We are
developing new platforms to

1429
01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:24,030
mitigate logistical risks in
contested environments.

1430
01:24:24,690 --> 01:24:27,960
John C Dvorak: Whatever happens
to the fish there on the streets

1431
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,190
of Miami flopping on

1432
01:24:29,190 --> 01:24:38,160
Adam Curry: the streets of Miami
or is the fish that was honest

1433
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,620
this. There they are.

1434
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,320
Unknown: flopping people are
noticing the largest downpour in

1435
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:51,240
the history of the UK was just a
year ago. Last fall and there

1436
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:55,200
have been wave after wave of
these downpours, the sea level

1437
01:24:55,500 --> 01:24:58,860
predictions and low lying
coastal areas not least on the

1438
01:24:58,860 --> 01:25:03,660
banks of the Thames. are ones
that people are now taking into

1439
01:25:03,660 --> 01:25:07,230
account all the terms that are
flowing I was in Amsterdam

1440
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:11,610
earlier this week. And believe
me, they're looking very

1441
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:16,650
carefully at this my, in making
this movie I went to Miami Beach

1442
01:25:16,650 --> 01:25:20,340
I saw a fish from the ocean,
swimming in the streets. Yeah,

1443
01:25:20,340 --> 01:25:24,390
Miami Beach flopping flopping
around during the highest of the

1444
01:25:24,420 --> 01:25:27,570
high tides. That's happening on
a regular basis,

1445
01:25:27,570 --> 01:25:30,720
John C Dvorak: regular, regular
basis. That was some photos of

1446
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,670
the more recent examples. So the

1447
01:25:32,670 --> 01:25:35,220
Adam Curry: second part was
taking care of our people. I'll

1448
01:25:35,220 --> 01:25:39,390
just run through this quickly
grow our talent to grow our

1449
01:25:39,390 --> 01:25:42,780
talent. Does that mean to remain
the strongest fighting force in

1450
01:25:42,780 --> 01:25:45,480
the world? We must recruit and
retain the best of America.

1451
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:48,300
Yeah, once you Jack us up with
vaccines we don't want that

1452
01:25:48,300 --> 01:25:52,560
helps. That grows your talent,
build resilience and readiness,

1453
01:25:53,250 --> 01:25:57,420
whatever, ensure accountable
leadership, we write and then

1454
01:25:57,420 --> 01:26:00,480
succeeding through teamwork,
join forces with our allies and

1455
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:03,300
partners, sell them some crap
they don't want strengthen

1456
01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:07,230
partnerships across America and
build unity within the

1457
01:26:07,230 --> 01:26:11,160
department. So there is really
nothing about you the Ukraine

1458
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,850
war is not the existential
threat that it was. There's no

1459
01:26:14,850 --> 01:26:18,630
whatever it takes, we're gonna
defend NATO. It's all about

1460
01:26:18,630 --> 01:26:22,350
China. So China gives us it's a
gimme. It's like, it's almost

1461
01:26:22,350 --> 01:26:25,980
like hey, this is great. Thanks,
China. And now we got Iran to do

1462
01:26:26,220 --> 01:26:28,320
what we're very worried about
running their work with China.

1463
01:26:28,500 --> 01:26:31,440
We've got Taiwan Oh, very well,
they're gonna take and you know

1464
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:36,150
what, China will probably just
not do anything until 2027 It

1465
01:26:36,150 --> 01:26:37,530
just go and we're just going to
build

1466
01:26:37,530 --> 01:26:38,970
John C Dvorak: up what they
might not do anything. The

1467
01:26:38,970 --> 01:26:43,290
latest from burns, though had
the 2027 predictions now he's

1468
01:26:43,290 --> 01:26:47,970
now backing off saying what you
just said. You know, they might

1469
01:26:47,970 --> 01:26:48,780
not do anything,

1470
01:26:49,050 --> 01:26:50,130
Adam Curry: then why would they?

1471
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,790
John C Dvorak: Why would they
watch us flailing around like

1472
01:26:53,790 --> 01:26:54,690
idiots if we

1473
01:26:54,690 --> 01:26:57,120
Adam Curry: were smart? We just
continued to build up our

1474
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:02,580
financial resilience because
ultimately the China's trying to

1475
01:27:02,580 --> 01:27:08,970
put together I think a financial
group now no bricks is basically

1476
01:27:08,970 --> 01:27:12,600
that but a Financial Group and
make their money the rich

1477
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:16,020
someone's got to be the reserve
currency of green energy. I

1478
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:19,620
guess it's not going to be it's
not supposed to be oil or or gas

1479
01:27:19,620 --> 01:27:24,660
or anything. So I just see this
as a non starter which we're

1480
01:27:24,660 --> 01:27:27,570
going to be it's going to be
fear mongering on the news every

1481
01:27:27,570 --> 01:27:32,070
single day. All across the
western world be afraid China

1482
01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:34,860
China, China, China, and you
know, and maybe there'll be

1483
01:27:34,860 --> 01:27:38,490
little things I do here and
there. But I just I don't see

1484
01:27:38,490 --> 01:27:40,920
it. I think it's it's great.
They want more money, they don't

1485
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,790
care they just want to blow
stuff up and on TV pitch for

1486
01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:48,960
more money. We have no one to
actually go and fight anymore.

1487
01:27:50,580 --> 01:27:53,580
We have we have like 50,000
Ready troops we don't even have

1488
01:27:53,580 --> 01:27:58,620
the half a million that we're
supposed to have. Which is

1489
01:27:58,620 --> 01:27:59,520
really bad.

1490
01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:05,580
Unknown: Um over the

1491
01:28:06,930 --> 01:28:13,590
Adam Curry: over the past week,
we had Queen Ursula came over to

1492
01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:18,750
visit Ursula Queen Ursula, the
President of the European Union

1493
01:28:18,750 --> 01:28:22,230
Commission thing is for
commission. So after Schultz

1494
01:28:22,230 --> 01:28:25,170
came over and Schultz Of course,
like hey, man, you know, we got

1495
01:28:25,170 --> 01:28:28,680
to like step out of this Ukraine
thing. Let's blame it on the

1496
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,340
Ukrainians. So we have an out
clean Ursula comes in because

1497
01:28:32,340 --> 01:28:36,690
now it's time to go back to the
Green Deal. The hydrogen clean

1498
01:28:36,690 --> 01:28:38,010
hydrogen. Yeah. So she

1499
01:28:38,010 --> 01:28:42,090
John C Dvorak: flies over the
same way that in and out, in and

1500
01:28:42,090 --> 01:28:46,800
out, no comes out or flies over?
I mean, again, because they

1501
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,760
don't trust any other form of
communication. But okay.

1502
01:28:51,810 --> 01:28:55,740
Adam Curry: Well, she did do a
she gave a speech, addressed the

1503
01:28:55,740 --> 01:28:59,520
media. And if you recall, the
big problem with the European

1504
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:05,130
Union and the US is the
inflation Reduction Act, where

1505
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,340
we say we made this you know, a
lot of money was it a trillion

1506
01:29:08,340 --> 01:29:09,270
and a half dollars?

1507
01:29:10,290 --> 01:29:12,540
Unknown: I think it was the
Yeah.

1508
01:29:12,990 --> 01:29:15,030
Adam Curry: How's that working
out by the way has inflation

1509
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:21,450
tempered any it keeps going up
crazy. And the and, and, you

1510
01:29:21,450 --> 01:29:24,030
know, all kinds of subsidies are
a trillion and a half dollars,

1511
01:29:24,030 --> 01:29:30,360
lot of money that we put up for
green, green initiatives, except

1512
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,720
in there, it's like well, you
know, we'll we'll give subsidies

1513
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:37,440
for electric vehicles and
hydrogen stuff, but it has to be

1514
01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:42,090
60% us made. And somehow that
was a fast one that was pulled

1515
01:29:42,090 --> 01:29:46,020
because this is what Queen
Ursula has been bitching about.

1516
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,280
For months now. We've played
several clips, and I guess they

1517
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:51,840
struck some sort of deal.

1518
01:29:51,870 --> 01:29:54,480
Unknown: We agreed on a
transparency dialogue.

1519
01:29:54,810 --> 01:29:56,460
Concerning the incentives.

1520
01:29:56,490 --> 01:29:58,380
Adam Curry: What's your
transparency dialogue? Because I

1521
01:29:58,380 --> 01:30:01,860
like a podcast, I think Podcast
transparency dialogue. That's

1522
01:30:01,860 --> 01:30:02,010
what

1523
01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:05,700
Unknown: we need on a
transparency dialogue concerning

1524
01:30:05,700 --> 01:30:09,660
the incentives that are given
given to the clean tech industry

1525
01:30:09,660 --> 01:30:11,760
for us is important on both
sides of the aisle

1526
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,540
Adam Curry: like this. We kind
of overlooked this. But it used

1527
01:30:15,540 --> 01:30:18,240
to be green tech, you remember
that was Kleiner Perkins, who

1528
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,910
put together a whole bunch of
investments in companies for

1529
01:30:20,910 --> 01:30:26,250
green tech. Now, which clean
tech and clean tech is, is

1530
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,290
hydrogen, as far as I can tell,
clean tech

1531
01:30:28,290 --> 01:30:30,690
Unknown: industry classes
important on both sides of the

1532
01:30:30,690 --> 01:30:35,400
Atlantic to know what kind of
incentives are being given to

1533
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:39,390
the clean tech industry, to make
sure that we joined forces to

1534
01:30:39,390 --> 01:30:43,890
boost the clean data industry
that is crucial and paramount

1535
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:49,320
for reaching a circular economy.
A net zero economy a

1536
01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:50,370
few weeks ago, we

1537
01:30:50,370 --> 01:30:54,120
had already an agreement
concerning electric vehicles

1538
01:30:54,150 --> 01:31:00,210
accessing the American market.
Today, we agreed that we will

1539
01:31:00,210 --> 01:31:07,200
work on critical raw materials
that have been processed in the

1540
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:11,700
European Union, and to give them
the access to the American

1541
01:31:11,700 --> 01:31:15,240
market as if they were sourced
in the American market. We will

1542
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,790
work on an agreement with that
is concerned.

1543
01:31:17,820 --> 01:31:20,460
Adam Curry: There you go. So
it's for the raw materials that

1544
01:31:20,460 --> 01:31:22,800
we're going to dig we're going
to dig up parts of Europe, which

1545
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,430
I think actually will be Canada.
So it's like a it's a pass

1546
01:31:26,430 --> 01:31:29,400
through. Because Ursula went to
Canada and said, hey, you know,

1547
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:34,200
we need your raw materials. We
need your green stuff. Because

1548
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,110
you have a lot of gas and then
you shipped out to us and then

1549
01:31:37,110 --> 01:31:39,900
we'll probably ship it off to
America. They're doing some kind

1550
01:31:39,900 --> 01:31:43,830
of some kind of deal so that
they dig up other countries.

1551
01:31:44,850 --> 01:31:48,810
John C Dvorak: Dig up Canada.
That's a good Alberta is just

1552
01:31:48,810 --> 01:31:49,950
ripe to be dug up.

1553
01:31:52,740 --> 01:31:53,850
Adam Curry: Dig up Canada.

1554
01:31:54,900 --> 01:31:56,160
John C Dvorak: Yep. Canada
meanwhile,

1555
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,830
Adam Curry: we have nothing to
worry about. Because our

1556
01:31:58,830 --> 01:32:01,470
national laboratory in the US
has cracked the battery

1557
01:32:01,470 --> 01:32:08,100
technology code. We'll be able
to go 1000s of miles on one

1558
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:11,520
charge. It'll charge in five
minutes. Oh, it's

1559
01:32:13,140 --> 01:32:14,280
John C Dvorak: I didn't see
this.

1560
01:32:14,310 --> 01:32:17,610
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness. It the
coming Evie batteries will sweep

1561
01:32:17,610 --> 01:32:22,560
away fossil fuel transport with
or without net zero. I wish I

1562
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,670
wish I had a clip I'll just read
the first paragraph, the Argonne

1563
01:32:26,670 --> 01:32:30,210
National Laboratory in the US
has essentially cracked the

1564
01:32:30,210 --> 01:32:33,840
battery technology for electric
vehicles, discovering a way to

1565
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:38,820
raise the future driving range
of standard EVs to 1000 miles or

1566
01:32:38,820 --> 01:32:42,930
more. It promises to do so
cheaply without exhausting the

1567
01:32:42,930 --> 01:32:45,660
global supply of critical
minerals in the process. Why?

1568
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:49,500
It's almost like zero point
energy. I have seen these

1569
01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:56,580
stories so many times. Oh, how
many times have we seen the new

1570
01:32:56,580 --> 01:32:57,840
battery technology?

1571
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,740
John C Dvorak: Yes, go we have
to remember everyone should

1572
01:33:01,740 --> 01:33:06,390
remember all battery technology,
except for little bitty things

1573
01:33:06,390 --> 01:33:10,020
like the membrane and some of
the packaging and all the rest

1574
01:33:10,020 --> 01:33:13,530
of it. All battery technology
was beaten to death in the

1575
01:33:13,530 --> 01:33:14,550
1800s.

1576
01:33:14,970 --> 01:33:18,120
Adam Curry: Yeah, we had battery
cars in the 1800s. And then once

1577
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:21,270
the gasoline powered engine came
along, I wouldn't want to screw

1578
01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:25,860
that battery piece of crap.
We've been through this. It's

1579
01:33:25,860 --> 01:33:30,600
the argon argon i f battery.
It's a global breakthrough.

1580
01:33:32,670 --> 01:33:34,140
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm skeptic
I'm

1581
01:33:34,140 --> 01:33:38,010
Adam Curry: very skeptical.
Because we've heard this

1582
01:33:38,700 --> 01:33:41,970
John C Dvorak: nothing new in
battery technology. 2005

1583
01:33:41,970 --> 01:33:45,180
Adam Curry: I have a report here
2005 New Scientist and

1584
01:33:45,180 --> 01:33:48,120
rechargeable battery that can be
fully charged in six minutes

1585
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,940
last time times as long as
today's rechargeables and could

1586
01:33:50,940 --> 01:33:54,750
provide burst of electricity up
to three times more powerful in

1587
01:33:54,750 --> 01:34:01,080
a in a Nevada lab. Pa 2011 a
pioneer in battery research who

1588
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,720
already successful launch a
three and a $50 million company

1589
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,360
to supply batteries to like to
GE and Chrysler has done it

1590
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,240
again. Only this time it
represents the complete

1591
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:13,020
reinvention of battery
technology as we know it. It

1592
01:34:13,020 --> 01:34:19,260
will fully replace fossil fuels,
especially oil. So we've seen

1593
01:34:19,260 --> 01:34:19,770
this

1594
01:34:19,890 --> 01:34:22,080
John C Dvorak: and you could
probably get that was 2011 Yeah,

1595
01:34:22,110 --> 01:34:25,020
probably go back another 10
years and you'll find some Mills

1596
01:34:27,150 --> 01:34:29,730
Adam Curry: This is my setup for
your battery for I have no idea

1597
01:34:29,730 --> 01:34:31,560
where your clips are but I
figured I'd say yep, I

1598
01:34:33,660 --> 01:34:36,330
John C Dvorak: have no idea.
Okay, this is just a bag. Okay,

1599
01:34:36,390 --> 01:34:37,590
I get the battery clips.

1600
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:40,290
Adam Curry: I see batteries for
cars. I'm like this. I got to

1601
01:34:40,290 --> 01:34:41,610
set them up. This is perfect.

1602
01:34:42,270 --> 01:34:45,180
Unknown: Yeah. Play the clip.

1603
01:34:45,780 --> 01:34:47,730
John C Dvorak: To play clip.
Boy, let's go with batteries.

1604
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,090
Unknown: Do I want to go
electric or hybrid? The Biden

1605
01:34:51,090 --> 01:34:53,790
administration would like you to
the administration wants at

1606
01:34:53,790 --> 01:34:57,750
least half of new car sales to
be electric in 10 years. To make

1607
01:34:57,750 --> 01:35:01,260
that happen. Car manufacturers
need batteries, lots of them.

1608
01:35:01,350 --> 01:35:04,560
But here's the thing, China has
a tight grip on the materials

1609
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,620
and production needed to make
those batteries. According to

1610
01:35:07,620 --> 01:35:12,120
the International Energy Agency
75% of the world's lithium ion

1611
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:17,040
batteries 2021, the US made only
7%. This is yet another area

1612
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,830
where the US and China are
competing on the global stage.

1613
01:35:20,250 --> 01:35:23,550
So we thought this would be a
good ask how the US can make

1614
01:35:23,550 --> 01:35:27,180
progress on electric cars and
renewable energy when China

1615
01:35:27,180 --> 01:35:31,140
dominates the market. We call
almost Hochstein for that he's

1616
01:35:31,140 --> 01:35:33,360
the Special Presidential
coordinator for global

1617
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,360
infrastructure and energy
security in that role. He

1618
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:40,200
advises President Biden on
energy as a national security

1619
01:35:40,230 --> 01:35:43,320
matter. And his portfolio runs
across agencies. So we thought

1620
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,390
he'd be a good person to talk
about this. And he's with us

1621
01:35:45,390 --> 01:35:47,970
now. Mr. Hochstein? Welcome.
Thank you so much for joining

1622
01:35:47,970 --> 01:35:48,330
us.

1623
01:35:48,390 --> 01:35:50,610
It's great to be here. Michelle,
it's really great to have this

1624
01:35:50,610 --> 01:35:51,240
conversation.

1625
01:35:51,450 --> 01:35:55,140
Thanks for that. So to start us
off, is the US in a race with

1626
01:35:55,140 --> 01:35:58,140
China to acquire the materials
for these car batteries.

1627
01:35:58,470 --> 01:36:01,860
I think we're in a race, not
necessarily within China, but

1628
01:36:01,860 --> 01:36:06,930
we're in a race to ensure that
we have for the United States, a

1629
01:36:06,930 --> 01:36:11,580
diversified sourcing of these
batteries and solar. So it's not

1630
01:36:11,580 --> 01:36:14,280
just about the battery. So if
you think about the way you just

1631
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:18,240
presented, Michelle, we have the
battery in it has a number of

1632
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:22,830
components, and the car has even
more components. And they are in

1633
01:36:22,830 --> 01:36:26,280
places like Sub Saharan Africa,
from South and Central America,

1634
01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:29,310
Southeast Asia, and we have to
source those. So one thing

1635
01:36:29,310 --> 01:36:31,620
President Biden wants to do is
make more of those batteries

1636
01:36:31,620 --> 01:36:34,410
here at home. We want to do more
money here at home. But we know

1637
01:36:34,410 --> 01:36:37,650
we can't mine in the United
States for everything that we

1638
01:36:37,650 --> 01:36:39,450
need. No, we won't have

1639
01:36:39,450 --> 01:36:44,100
Adam Curry: it. Go dig up
Canada. Much better. Right?

1640
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:45,900
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
some mines since I think the

1641
01:36:45,900 --> 01:36:49,350
Carolinas have some lithium
mines that Nevada is another

1642
01:36:49,350 --> 01:36:56,970
place. Of course, Nevada. This
numbers were just I didn't know

1643
01:36:56,970 --> 01:37:00,630
this. I didn't know that China
made 75% Of all the batteries

1644
01:37:00,630 --> 01:37:04,680
and we made 7%. When did that
happen?

1645
01:37:05,370 --> 01:37:08,790
Adam Curry: I don't know. What
happened. By the way, it wasn't

1646
01:37:08,790 --> 01:37:12,540
that I read something about
lithium, like the stock stocks

1647
01:37:12,540 --> 01:37:16,980
for lithium are way down. For
some reason I read something.

1648
01:37:16,980 --> 01:37:19,290
John C Dvorak: So yeah. Do you
know why I don't know why that

1649
01:37:19,290 --> 01:37:23,430
is? I looked into it. Okay. But
I couldn't figure out it's just

1650
01:37:23,550 --> 01:37:27,150
who knows what, what's going on
with lithium. But we have two

1651
01:37:27,180 --> 01:37:29,790
facilities, the United States,
two lithium companies, and

1652
01:37:30,330 --> 01:37:34,140
there's a bunch of us you want
to have this. Canada has a

1653
01:37:34,170 --> 01:37:38,400
couple of lithium plays that run
on the on one of those. I think

1654
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:40,770
that I don't even know if it's
existing anymore. But they used

1655
01:37:40,770 --> 01:37:44,700
to have a stock exchange on the
west coast of Canada that was

1656
01:37:45,150 --> 01:37:49,350
just did mining stocks. That was
called a mining stock exchanges

1657
01:37:49,350 --> 01:37:54,060
to be penny stocks. And you can
invest in some of these Penny

1658
01:37:54,090 --> 01:37:58,170
lithium stocks. I think it might
not be a bad idea. But anyway,

1659
01:37:58,500 --> 01:38:01,470
Adam Curry: we don't offer
financial advice. Disclaimer.

1660
01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:05,850
John C Dvorak: That yeah, I
agree. Don't Don't listen to us

1661
01:38:05,970 --> 01:38:09,840
Adam Curry: ever, ever, ever buy
bitcoin? Don't listen to me.

1662
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,070
John C Dvorak: Just don't listen
to him, especially you know,

1663
01:38:14,100 --> 01:38:14,610
okay.

1664
01:38:16,410 --> 01:38:19,590
Adam Curry: Protect yourself
from a banking collapse. Here

1665
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:19,950
you go.

1666
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,360
Unknown: Part two, we don't want
China to control the supply for

1667
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:27,510
the whole world, just like we
didn't want Russia to control

1668
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:30,780
the supply of energy for its
neighbors. So we have to learn

1669
01:38:30,780 --> 01:38:34,470
from the mistakes of the Russia
war. And now implement that

1670
01:38:34,470 --> 01:38:37,020
here. And make sure that when
you

1671
01:38:37,230 --> 01:38:39,000
Adam Curry: learn from our
mistakes from the what is the

1672
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:44,190
Russia war, to Russian warrior?
What Russian war? You know, the

1673
01:38:44,190 --> 01:38:48,060
one in Ukraine? Yeah. What does
it have to do with with lithium?

1674
01:38:48,330 --> 01:38:50,100
John C Dvorak: You tell me, man
good. So

1675
01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:52,500
Unknown: we have to learn from
the mistakes of the Russia war.

1676
01:38:53,010 --> 01:38:57,390
And now implement that here. And
make sure that when you buy that

1677
01:38:57,390 --> 01:39:02,580
electric vehicle, or you install
that solar panel, that it's not

1678
01:39:02,580 --> 01:39:04,320
controlled by one country.

1679
01:39:05,370 --> 01:39:08,790
John C Dvorak: You mean China,
which controls 100% of the solar

1680
01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:11,790
panels. This guy is great,

1681
01:39:11,910 --> 01:39:14,010
Unknown: not controlled by one
country.

1682
01:39:14,970 --> 01:39:17,550
So a factsheet, released by the
White House last month said,

1683
01:39:17,550 --> 01:39:20,670
quote, The US is increasingly
dependent on foreign sources for

1684
01:39:20,670 --> 01:39:23,760
many of the processed versions
of these minerals. Globally,

1685
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,790
China controls most of the
market for processing and

1686
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:30,300
refining for cobalt, lithium
rare earths and other critical

1687
01:39:30,420 --> 01:39:33,540
minerals and quote, as I said,
this is from the White House.

1688
01:39:33,570 --> 01:39:36,630
Yeah, how did we get to this
point where China essentially

1689
01:39:36,630 --> 01:39:39,780
has control over this market and
the US is playing catch up.

1690
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:45,030
Over the last 10 years, China
has invested in acquiring mines

1691
01:39:45,030 --> 01:39:48,930
in primarily Africa and southern
South America. So they own a lot

1692
01:39:48,930 --> 01:39:52,860
of mining. They own a lot of the
refining and processing of those

1693
01:39:52,860 --> 01:39:55,080
materials. When they come out of
the ground. You got to turn them

1694
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:58,350
into battery grade material, and
then they want to build the

1695
01:39:58,350 --> 01:40:03,540
batteries and we wanted things
cheap. So we were willing to buy

1696
01:40:03,540 --> 01:40:06,270
whatever was on the market at
the lowest cost China then

1697
01:40:06,270 --> 01:40:10,200
reduce the costs subsidizing it.
We bought the cheap stuff from

1698
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,930
them and our own industries went
out of business.

1699
01:40:12,990 --> 01:40:16,950
Adam Curry: So what happened to
Elon giga factory? I thought he

1700
01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:18,090
had all the answers.

1701
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:20,430
John C Dvorak: Well for him,

1702
01:40:21,900 --> 01:40:25,710
Adam Curry: I mean, correct me
if I'm wrong, but China controls

1703
01:40:25,710 --> 01:40:28,230
him. I mean, aren't they the
biggest?

1704
01:40:28,710 --> 01:40:31,080
John C Dvorak: Well, he's got a
plant there. And they always

1705
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,540
threatened him with one thing or
another. Shut up.

1706
01:40:33,929 --> 01:40:38,789
Adam Curry: Shut up. Iran Shut
up. Shut up. Iran. Oh, we tap

1707
01:40:38,789 --> 01:40:43,169
you on half your money. Your
Tesla. That was my usual thing,

1708
01:40:43,289 --> 01:40:45,749
personally. Yeah, very good.
Yes, very good.

1709
01:40:45,780 --> 01:40:47,430
Unknown: interested in why this
happened,

1710
01:40:47,519 --> 01:40:52,769
the why it's not as much as the
constituency. But maybe even to

1711
01:40:52,769 --> 01:40:56,279
the country, what the Chinese
wanted to do was to take away

1712
01:40:56,279 --> 01:41:00,869
our industry, we even sued them
under the Obama administration,

1713
01:41:01,169 --> 01:41:04,529
and accused them of anti
dumping, meaning that they were

1714
01:41:04,739 --> 01:41:07,889
selling product for less than
what they was costing them to

1715
01:41:07,889 --> 01:41:12,299
produce. And so because we
didn't think ahead of what does

1716
01:41:12,299 --> 01:41:15,119
this do the entire industry,
they essentially took us out of

1717
01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:19,229
business. And we didn't really
care because we think about

1718
01:41:19,229 --> 01:41:22,139
things in a free market, we
always talk about we want this

1719
01:41:22,139 --> 01:41:27,119
to be in a free market. And one
actor in this free market was

1720
01:41:27,119 --> 01:41:30,329
acting exactly the opposite.
They were subsidizing and

1721
01:41:30,329 --> 01:41:33,299
pouring money into it and using
their influence around the world

1722
01:41:33,629 --> 01:41:37,079
to take over the supply chain.
And once we lost the supply

1723
01:41:37,079 --> 01:41:41,939
chain, we lost the industry. So
if in 2010, we were the dominant

1724
01:41:41,939 --> 01:41:47,579
solar power manufacturer. Today,
we barely even exist. But that's

1725
01:41:47,579 --> 01:41:48,719
all about to change.

1726
01:41:48,809 --> 01:41:54,839
Adam Curry: Oh, it's all about
the change as we dig up Canada,

1727
01:41:56,130 --> 01:41:58,500
John C Dvorak: but it never goes
into how it's about to change.

1728
01:41:58,500 --> 01:41:58,620
Well,

1729
01:41:58,620 --> 01:42:01,710
Adam Curry: the big change
they're pushing for is hydrogen.

1730
01:42:01,740 --> 01:42:05,490
And I was the New York Times had
a pretty big article about

1731
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:09,480
Australia, that Australia would
be the will be the world's

1732
01:42:09,480 --> 01:42:14,250
biggest hydrogen producing
nation, because they're going to

1733
01:42:14,250 --> 01:42:18,660
put probably Chinese solar
panels all over the Outback.

1734
01:42:19,110 --> 01:42:22,710
Yeah. This is great.

1735
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,670
John C Dvorak: As you know, we
always forget, we always forget

1736
01:42:26,700 --> 01:42:33,300
Michael Moore's documentary that
he the last one that was famous

1737
01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:36,000
that he did, which is still
available, you got to scrounge

1738
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:40,230
it up someplace about the
environmental movement.

1739
01:42:40,260 --> 01:42:43,200
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was all
about nuclear being the best

1740
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:43,560
thing.

1741
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,410
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what
turned out to be but he kept

1742
01:42:46,410 --> 01:42:52,260
showing example, after example
of failed experiments for green

1743
01:42:52,260 --> 01:42:57,120
energy, including that giant
solar panel that was set up down

1744
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:58,920
in the Arizona desert.

1745
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,670
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I forgot
about that. Huge.

1746
01:43:02,730 --> 01:43:04,710
John C Dvorak: Just be this
would be similar to what was

1747
01:43:04,710 --> 01:43:11,400
what's gonna happen with the the
Outback is huge. It was a big

1748
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,000
giant lash shop that you went to
visit it was just as in

1749
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,940
shatters, it was in tatters? It
was, it was a mess,

1750
01:43:18,030 --> 01:43:20,880
Adam Curry: or the Outback
certainly is big. You can put,

1751
01:43:21,540 --> 01:43:23,250
John C Dvorak: you know, how
many panels can you get, who's

1752
01:43:23,250 --> 01:43:26,490
going to monitor it, you know,
okay, and they're all Chinese

1753
01:43:26,490 --> 01:43:29,370
and Chinese are going to, you
know, sell a lot of panels. But

1754
01:43:29,370 --> 01:43:32,250
I'm always thinking about this,
you know, there's, there's some

1755
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,940
economic thinking where if you
know, somebody's going to pour,

1756
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:40,230
throw money away, and they're
gonna sell you a solar panel for

1757
01:43:40,230 --> 01:43:44,610
10 bucks, and 10 bucks of it is
their subsidy. And you're

1758
01:43:44,610 --> 01:43:47,100
actually getting the solar
panel, you're paying 10 bucks,

1759
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:51,330
but you're actually getting $20
for the solar panel, right? That

1760
01:43:51,330 --> 01:43:56,370
this is a benefit. It's a net
gain in wealth to the receiver.

1761
01:43:56,970 --> 01:44:01,200
And the Chinese have done this
in their entire history. And

1762
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,920
they always make a fundamental
error at the end, they'd never

1763
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:08,370
cornered the market correctly.
This happened with Chinese and

1764
01:44:08,370 --> 01:44:12,570
this and the Japanese silk
industry. The Japanese were

1765
01:44:12,570 --> 01:44:15,900
developed a silk industry and
they're making these fine silks.

1766
01:44:15,900 --> 01:44:18,930
They had the worms and all the
restaurants somehow, I guess,

1767
01:44:18,930 --> 01:44:23,100
over just in the bottom of the
14 1300s 1400s. It was long time

1768
01:44:23,100 --> 01:44:26,550
ago. And the Chinese smuggled
some of the silkworms out

1769
01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:29,460
because they didn't know about
this and started making silk.

1770
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:31,950
And it took a while but you can
make a lot of bugs and so they

1771
01:44:31,950 --> 01:44:34,890
started making soap and they
started making soap that was

1772
01:44:35,340 --> 01:44:39,000
good enough to compete with the
Japanese stuff. And they would

1773
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:43,350
lowball them. They would sell it
for 1/10 The price was good,

1774
01:44:43,410 --> 01:44:46,560
best price and and this
continued and continued to to

1775
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,830
put the Japanese silk people out
of business

1776
01:44:50,130 --> 01:44:52,050
Adam Curry: or they come into a
shoe. What does that

1777
01:44:53,070 --> 01:44:54,720
John C Dvorak: all hell's
breaking loose around here

1778
01:44:54,750 --> 01:44:57,060
Adam Curry: and what's going on?
That's right near that's closer

1779
01:44:57,060 --> 01:44:57,780
than normal.

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01:44:59,250 --> 01:45:02,370
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
They are okay. Anyway

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01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:04,530
Adam Curry: I like to soak story
keep going

1782
01:45:04,710 --> 01:45:07,170
John C Dvorak: so they put this
the show guys in Japan had a

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01:45:07,170 --> 01:45:11,310
business basically took over the
world silk market and that

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01:45:11,310 --> 01:45:14,610
became you know silk trading was
a big deal during the Silk Road

1785
01:45:14,610 --> 01:45:17,970
and that was called that for a
reason because people were

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01:45:17,970 --> 01:45:20,670
trading everything they could
get to get this Chinese silk

1787
01:45:20,910 --> 01:45:27,570
they never jacked up the prices
What an idiot knows best price

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01:45:28,470 --> 01:45:31,170
to get the best price we took
over the market why should we

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01:45:31,170 --> 01:45:35,760
jack up the prices and that's
always kind of been their

1790
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,760
attitude it's like we got a
product is making money Where's

1791
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,490
not like us we always think
everything in terms of what we

1792
01:45:41,490 --> 01:45:45,990
do right corner the market you
know do bunker hunt cornering

1793
01:45:45,990 --> 01:45:48,330
the silver market. Let's just
jack it up.

1794
01:45:49,710 --> 01:45:51,600
Unknown: No, man's to DC

1795
01:45:53,580 --> 01:45:55,440
Adam Curry: now seems like
they're they're at the door,

1796
01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:55,860
John.

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01:45:56,460 --> 01:45:58,440
John C Dvorak: Yeah, go down the
aisle let him in.

1798
01:45:59,430 --> 01:46:02,550
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, as we're
on this green energy kick, which

1799
01:46:02,550 --> 01:46:05,190
is just a stupid thing, people
just aren't having it. I love

1800
01:46:05,190 --> 01:46:11,910
the Brits. You know, the the
Ulez the Ultra Low Emission zone

1801
01:46:11,910 --> 01:46:14,580
which is only a part of London
right now, but they want to make

1802
01:46:14,580 --> 01:46:18,990
it a lot of London. Where you
know, you you you come into the

1803
01:46:18,990 --> 01:46:22,020
Ulez zone and you come in with
the wrong vehicle and you get a

1804
01:46:22,020 --> 01:46:27,240
bill and so now the Brits are
just cutting the wires paying

1805
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:32,370
the lenses black ripping them
off sewing them in half. Good.

1806
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,490
Yeah, of course. It's good. You
need this kind of vandalism.

1807
01:46:35,490 --> 01:46:40,470
This is insane what this mayor
is doing. Sadiq Sadiq Khan.

1808
01:46:43,110 --> 01:46:51,360
They're going to install 20 750
of these things. By August.

1809
01:46:53,730 --> 01:46:54,300
People are

1810
01:46:54,300 --> 01:46:56,910
John C Dvorak: not having it.
pellet guns,

1811
01:46:58,170 --> 01:47:04,140
Adam Curry: pellet guns. See,
what else do we have? Whoa.

1812
01:47:06,540 --> 01:47:12,570
Sorry. I don't have anything
else on the climate change. Do I

1813
01:47:12,570 --> 01:47:16,380
have anything here? Oh, I do
actually. I'm sorry. Yes, I do

1814
01:47:16,380 --> 01:47:20,190
have some climate change. This
is the Netherlands. You know,

1815
01:47:20,190 --> 01:47:24,180
there's a big vote coming up on
the 15th I think it's the

1816
01:47:24,210 --> 01:47:28,890
provincial elections and feared
builders is out who's been under

1817
01:47:28,890 --> 01:47:32,880
protection for a while, maybe 15
years or so because there's a

1818
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:37,650
there's a what's it called
against them? Not the jihad but

1819
01:47:37,650 --> 01:47:42,090
a firefight get him? fatback
FatBar thought

1820
01:47:42,090 --> 01:47:42,810
John C Dvorak: oh, ah, oh,

1821
01:47:42,810 --> 01:47:45,810
Adam Curry: it had been because
he was anti immigration. And he

1822
01:47:45,810 --> 01:47:48,990
said no, we were not built.
We're not immigration country.

1823
01:47:48,990 --> 01:47:51,420
We're not built for all of the
Turlock

1824
01:47:52,049 --> 01:47:55,259
John C Dvorak: like that is not
built for a big input of all

1825
01:47:55,259 --> 01:47:59,369
kinds of foreigners at all, at
all, at all. And so is it make

1826
01:47:59,369 --> 01:48:00,149
any sense

1827
01:48:00,180 --> 01:48:02,370
Adam Curry: when so this was
about shutting down the 3000

1828
01:48:02,370 --> 01:48:06,270
farms. The farmers are out
protesting again, they went all

1829
01:48:06,270 --> 01:48:09,600
the way down to Brussels. And
you know, we studied this

1830
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:14,820
closely. This is one of the the
Tri Cities projects where they

1831
01:48:14,820 --> 01:48:17,490
want the Netherlands as you
called it to be a bedroom

1832
01:48:17,490 --> 01:48:22,080
community. And so of course,
fielder's is out with his, with

1833
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,470
a security detail and he answers
a question about about the

1834
01:48:25,470 --> 01:48:27,570
former eliminations, what do you
make of the

1835
01:48:27,930 --> 01:48:30,600
Unknown: of the nitrogen
emission reducing policies? What

1836
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:31,920
do you think the real story is?

1837
01:48:33,300 --> 01:48:37,470
I think it's it's leftish
rubbish. The real aim here is to

1838
01:48:37,470 --> 01:48:41,820
get rid of our farmers for some
leftish nitrogen kind of agenda

1839
01:48:42,450 --> 01:48:47,490
to make room for even more
immigrants, asylum seekers and

1840
01:48:47,490 --> 01:48:52,050
build houses and centers for
them. And it's something that is

1841
01:48:52,050 --> 01:48:57,840
totally different than the
current Elite is telling the

1842
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:58,140
people

1843
01:48:58,470 --> 01:49:01,320
Adam Curry: I like leftish I
like like that. Instead of

1844
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:03,330
leftists, I like leftish, I like
left

1845
01:49:03,330 --> 01:49:04,440
Unknown: dish dish.

1846
01:49:04,710 --> 01:49:07,290
Adam Curry: It's a nice dish we
make here at the restaurant,

1847
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:11,340
it's left dish, it's leftovers.
And of course, climate change is

1848
01:49:11,340 --> 01:49:14,670
killing us left and right and
making our travel very, very,

1849
01:49:14,670 --> 01:49:15,600
very unpleasant.

1850
01:49:15,630 --> 01:49:18,690
Unknown: In the past week,
several airline passengers have

1851
01:49:18,690 --> 01:49:22,410
been severely injured or killed
when their flights experienced

1852
01:49:22,500 --> 01:49:26,070
severe turbulence on March 1,
seven people were hospitalized

1853
01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:30,090
and the plane cabin was left a
mess. When Lufthansa flight

1854
01:49:30,090 --> 01:49:33,030
encountered significant
turbulence over Tennessee A few

1855
01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:36,930
days later, a woman flying on a
business jet was killed when the

1856
01:49:36,930 --> 01:49:39,840
aircraft was violently shaken
and forced to divert to

1857
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,290
Connecticut scientists expect
turbulence like this to become

1858
01:49:43,290 --> 01:49:45,630
more frequent change Yep,
they're

1859
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,660
Adam Curry: scientists expect to
get him you're gonna die in the

1860
01:49:48,660 --> 01:49:50,850
sky. We're gonna die in the sky
people.

1861
01:49:52,110 --> 01:49:55,860
John C Dvorak: I had a I was on
a plane once and it first

1862
01:49:56,610 --> 01:49:59,850
traveling somewhere and I was
sitting next to another a guy

1863
01:49:59,850 --> 01:50:03,480
who travelled a lot he was like
a salesman he was traveling

1864
01:50:03,480 --> 01:50:08,160
probably two thirds of the
month. So we get into this it

1865
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:12,240
probably done this get into
these horror story exchanges

1866
01:50:12,690 --> 01:50:15,720
Adam Curry: while I was on a
flight one time. Yeah. So

1867
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,330
John C Dvorak: I we got we got
into this turbulence discussion

1868
01:50:18,330 --> 01:50:23,850
and I said to him, we flew over
a the worst turbulence I've ever

1869
01:50:23,850 --> 01:50:27,780
experienced, we were coming in
over Ontario. And it turns out

1870
01:50:27,780 --> 01:50:30,660
that we were told later because
it threw the plane everywhere,

1871
01:50:30,690 --> 01:50:33,180
everywhere. It's just It was a
horrible experience that wings

1872
01:50:33,180 --> 01:50:37,140
were about to break off.
Somebody said Are they were?

1873
01:50:37,470 --> 01:50:41,610
Yeah, so somebody said oh, yeah,
that they tested the B one

1874
01:50:41,610 --> 01:50:44,820
bombers flies fluid flies
around, if you catch the, you

1875
01:50:44,820 --> 01:50:47,610
know, if you get into the
turbulence of that thing,

1876
01:50:47,820 --> 01:50:51,300
atmospheric river atmospheric
river, it throws you all over

1877
01:50:51,300 --> 01:50:55,800
the place. I'm telling the guy
the story says, really? And he

1878
01:50:55,800 --> 01:51:00,930
says, you know, first of all,
did all the overhead cabins pop

1879
01:51:01,290 --> 01:51:05,280
open and throw luggage all over
the place and hit in the head?

1880
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,480
And I said, No. Then he said,
well, then you never been in

1881
01:51:09,480 --> 01:51:10,170
turbulence.

1882
01:51:11,580 --> 01:51:14,550
Adam Curry: By the way, the
solution to turbulence is a

1883
01:51:14,550 --> 01:51:20,100
short slow down, believe it or
not. And that lady who was she

1884
01:51:20,100 --> 01:51:22,980
was on the plane with her
husband on the private jet. I

1885
01:51:22,980 --> 01:51:27,090
can tell you what, most of the
people who are injured from

1886
01:51:27,090 --> 01:51:29,970
turbulence don't have their
seatbelts on.

1887
01:51:30,300 --> 01:51:32,610
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
absolutely true part because

1888
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:36,420
because the plane drops 10 feet
and you're sitting there you go

1889
01:51:36,450 --> 01:51:39,510
up 10 feet and hit your head on
the ceiling. And

1890
01:51:39,540 --> 01:51:43,890
Adam Curry: I'll tell you that I
am I always have my seatbelt on

1891
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:48,450
always. I mean, I'm pilot pilots
are not stupid. And the lady in

1892
01:51:48,450 --> 01:51:53,130
the in the private jet she did
not ever seatbelt on and she

1893
01:51:53,130 --> 01:51:56,190
died from a laceration to the
head who knows she probably got

1894
01:51:56,190 --> 01:51:57,540
thrown and hit her head on

1895
01:51:58,170 --> 01:52:01,080
John C Dvorak: flying all over
the last. And most people in

1896
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,000
private jets don't use
seatbelts.

1897
01:52:03,090 --> 01:52:07,320
Adam Curry: I remember Ray lane,
Kleiner Perkins. This was when

1898
01:52:07,350 --> 01:52:13,080
he took me and Blum and Marta on
his Galaxy, which is a huge jet

1899
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:16,950
really not challenged as a good
challenger as a global

1900
01:52:16,950 --> 01:52:20,640
challenger to fly from San
Francisco with I guess it was

1901
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:28,350
what airport to LA for the
launch of the Tesla which was

1902
01:52:28,350 --> 01:52:33,810
the Roadster at the time which
Elon did in or really Sequoia

1903
01:52:33,810 --> 01:52:38,100
Capital Elon did it in a in an
airplane hangar and first of all

1904
01:52:38,130 --> 01:52:42,540
it was it was wall to wall
private jets five of them from x

1905
01:52:42,540 --> 01:52:45,570
Pay Pal guys just it was
everyone came in the private

1906
01:52:45,570 --> 01:52:50,760
jet. And this was and this was a
new jet that Ray had. And so I

1907
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,160
sat up front in the jump seat
between the two pilots because

1908
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,170
you know it was only it's a
short flight from San Francisco

1909
01:52:55,170 --> 01:52:58,530
to LA I'm like I'm gonna fly up
front. So I didn't need to sit

1910
01:52:58,530 --> 01:53:07,890
the back drinking cognac. So as
we're landing new plane somehow

1911
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:14,040
the pilot made an error and the
nose wheel brake was locked. So

1912
01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:17,220
you land on the on the two on
the main landing gear and as the

1913
01:53:17,220 --> 01:53:20,520
nose wheel came down the minute
that hit you know, it was like

1914
01:53:21,780 --> 01:53:24,990
of course they unlocked it very
quickly. But Ray Lane was in the

1915
01:53:24,990 --> 01:53:28,260
back sitting across from Rana
Marta and he had literally said,

1916
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:30,960
this thing is so smooth you
don't even need your seatbelt.

1917
01:53:31,020 --> 01:53:34,620
He went flying forward with his
glass of whiskey, everything it

1918
01:53:34,620 --> 01:53:37,290
could have been a really really
bad situation. Because these

1919
01:53:37,290 --> 01:53:42,030
people are arrogant you get rich
you get stupid. Really

1920
01:53:42,030 --> 01:53:47,550
unbelievable. And so this is the
tip. This is a tip we're gonna

1921
01:53:47,550 --> 01:53:51,570
give you that is a valid tip.
Always wear your seatbelt even

1922
01:53:51,570 --> 01:53:58,350
when doing seatbelt sign us off
everybody. Keep it on. Keep it

1923
01:53:58,350 --> 01:53:58,710
on.

1924
01:53:59,790 --> 01:54:01,500
John C Dvorak: Yeah, unless you
have to go to the bathroom.

1925
01:54:01,769 --> 01:54:03,809
Adam Curry: Yeah, and even then
wait until you're absolutely

1926
01:54:03,809 --> 01:54:07,529
certain that there's not a
little lick of turbulence and be

1927
01:54:07,529 --> 01:54:11,129
at least 30,000 feet before you
even consider that.

1928
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,280
John C Dvorak: Well that's our
tip for the day kind of tip bows

1929
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:22,110
kind of arrogant, elitist tip
that you'd get if your accounts

1930
01:54:22,110 --> 01:54:24,900
are lousy donations in the next
segment. And with

1931
01:54:24,900 --> 01:54:27,240
Adam Curry: that I'd like to say
in the morning to you and thank

1932
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:30,540
you for your courage the man who
put the sea and dig up Canada

1933
01:54:30,540 --> 01:54:32,820
ladies and gentlemen, please say
hello to my friend on the other

1934
01:54:32,820 --> 01:54:33,420
end Mr.

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01:54:38,460 --> 01:54:40,290
John C Dvorak: Kraus in the
morning ships at sea boots on

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01:54:40,290 --> 01:54:42,990
the ground feed near subs in the
water and all the damos nights

1937
01:54:42,990 --> 01:54:43,170
out.

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01:54:43,530 --> 01:54:45,810
Adam Curry: We noticed what is
happening to trolls and the

1939
01:54:45,810 --> 01:54:49,050
troll room who we always say in
the morning to the lips. Let's

1940
01:54:49,050 --> 01:54:56,430
count them right away. Oh,
hello, whoa, whoa, whoa, it's

1941
01:54:56,430 --> 01:54:59,730
already down to 1450 foot No.
What do we have no.

1942
01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:01,860
Unknown: Right I'm gonna I don't
think this is accurate now Hold

1943
01:55:01,860 --> 01:55:04,140
Adam Curry: on What do I'm not
getting a count? What's my count

1944
01:55:04,140 --> 01:55:11,820
here? 2333 There you go. 2333
and I'm going to keep refreshing

1945
01:55:11,820 --> 01:55:17,340
because people are so stupid.
They leave during the donation

1946
01:55:17,340 --> 01:55:20,220
segment which by the way, it's
going to be short today, but

1947
01:55:20,220 --> 01:55:24,240
this is where the best content
takes place. 2309 We already

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01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:29,430
lost 27 Shame on them. Shame on
them just by

1949
01:55:29,430 --> 01:55:30,510
John C Dvorak: mentioning that

1950
01:55:30,540 --> 01:55:34,920
Adam Curry: out it goes 2352
We're down we're debt 2309

1951
01:55:35,430 --> 01:55:38,910
Unbelievable. These people
should be ashamed of themselves

1952
01:55:38,910 --> 01:55:41,730
they do not care about the
people who support the program.

1953
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,760
Because that's what this is. And
you know what the people who

1954
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:48,360
leave they're not they're not
supporters?

1955
01:55:49,050 --> 01:55:51,180
John C Dvorak: No, they probably
aren't and they don't care about

1956
01:55:51,210 --> 01:55:57,750
us discussing the art 2287 2287
Why they really Belfast Oh yeah.

1957
01:55:57,780 --> 01:55:59,700
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, they bail
like little bitches.

1958
01:56:00,930 --> 01:56:03,690
John C Dvorak: I'm out of here.
Donation segment all they're

1959
01:56:03,690 --> 01:56:04,800
gonna do is bake from laying

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01:56:05,700 --> 01:56:09,540
Adam Curry: the chanting. Yeah,
well, that's what we do. Anyway,

1961
01:56:09,540 --> 01:56:12,240
for those trolls still
remaining. We love you. Thank

1962
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:15,090
you for staying with us. Keeping
it going strong. In fact, turn

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01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:21,180
up the volume. You will not
regret it. What is this Adam? I

1964
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listened to donation segment,
but after the count, I can go

1965
01:56:23,910 --> 01:56:29,220
have a life. Okay. And that is
noodle, man. 33 unblock him

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01:56:29,220 --> 01:56:35,520
forever. Noodle man little man
douche man is what you mean. All

1967
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:38,400
right. Thank you to the trolls.
We do appreciate the trolls.

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01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,250
They're very helpful. And they
can be helpful during the

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01:56:41,250 --> 01:56:43,740
donation segment as well. That's
why we'd love having you here.

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01:56:43,950 --> 01:56:46,620
You can go to troll room.io
That's how you participate. You

1971
01:56:46,620 --> 01:56:50,580
got a little chat box there. You
can listen to the stream live.

1972
01:56:50,580 --> 01:56:53,760
We do this twice a week
Thursdays and Sundays. And it's

1973
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,730
like having a live studio
audience. You know, it's and

1974
01:56:56,730 --> 01:57:01,530
sometimes we named check yet. I
mean, if your noodle man 33 You

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01:57:01,530 --> 01:57:06,990
know? Oh, and Doug gave we give
karma for that guy. Oh, man.

1976
01:57:06,990 --> 01:57:11,850
It's unbelievable. How mean
people are 2243. We've lost 150

1977
01:57:11,850 --> 01:57:15,090
right there. Alright, let's get
to work. All right, good idea.

1978
01:57:15,420 --> 01:57:19,260
Of course, you can also download
one of those brand new and

1979
01:57:19,260 --> 01:57:23,190
modern podcast apps at podcast
apps.com. And if you get pod,

1980
01:57:23,490 --> 01:57:27,210
pod verse or podcast addict,
then it'll actually give you an

1981
01:57:27,210 --> 01:57:29,580
alert when we go live with the
show. You log in, boom, you're

1982
01:57:29,580 --> 01:57:32,130
in the troll room, we've got the
stream live, even if you can't,

1983
01:57:32,130 --> 01:57:34,350
if you miss it, it's your
podcast app, you can listen to

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01:57:34,350 --> 01:57:37,830
it, and you will get notified
within 90 seconds of publishing.

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01:57:38,070 --> 01:57:40,980
You do not get that from Apple.
You don't get it from Spotify

1986
01:57:40,980 --> 01:57:47,610
from Google Amazon. That is part
of podcasting. 2.0 You can also

1987
01:57:47,610 --> 01:57:50,400
follow us at no agenda
social.com It's Adam at no

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01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,400
agenda. social.com John C.
Dvorak at no agenda. social.com.

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01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:56,340
We're all on the mastodon tip.
We've been doing that for five

1990
01:57:56,340 --> 01:57:59,940
years. So we're established. And
I don't know if you I don't

1991
01:57:59,940 --> 01:58:03,720
think you can get any more slots
on our server. But you're more

1992
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,780
than welcome to follow us from
any Mastodon instance, that has

1993
01:58:07,140 --> 01:58:09,720
a million of them. There is more
than a million now. There's not

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01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:13,290
quite a million, but there's a
lot. It's quite a lot. And yes,

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indeed, we always like to thank
our artists who brings us the

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01:58:16,230 --> 01:58:20,160
artwork, which we choose from no
agenda, art generator.com You

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01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:23,610
can go there. Now if you're
listening, live and refresh, and

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01:58:23,610 --> 01:58:27,630
you'll see what the artists are
doing as we speak. You can also

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01:58:27,630 --> 01:58:32,130
see one of the many many choices
we had for the previous episode,

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01:58:32,130 --> 01:58:37,320
which was episode 1536. We
titled that killer clown. And

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01:58:37,350 --> 01:58:43,650
this art was loved by many came
to us from Roger round eat

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01:58:43,650 --> 01:58:47,670
second in a row. He's going for
the hat trick. This was the

2003
01:58:47,670 --> 01:58:53,760
turtle Mitch upside down with
little Chinese crown of course,

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01:58:54,150 --> 01:58:58,470
signifying Mitch McConnell and
we have we have an update on on

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01:58:58,470 --> 01:59:04,830
the the the minority leader on
on Mitch on the journal I don't

2006
01:59:04,830 --> 01:59:07,410
think so. We didn't that for
this show. We don't. Okay, well,

2007
01:59:07,410 --> 01:59:11,130
we hope he's okay. We don't
know. By the way, the extra

2008
01:59:11,130 --> 01:59:13,350
seems to stop our bitching
stopped it and that's really

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01:59:13,350 --> 01:59:16,230
cool. Thanks. If you're still
here, trolls we love you. We'll

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01:59:16,230 --> 01:59:22,020
be giving away a car to one of
you later today. Roger Thank you

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01:59:22,020 --> 01:59:25,260
so much. What would we let me
just take a look and just take a

2012
01:59:25,260 --> 01:59:25,650
look at

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John C Dvorak: what very funny
comment to make about this art

2014
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:32,820
in the no agenda social. Yeah,
he says that's what I needed to

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01:59:32,820 --> 01:59:37,380
know I needed to humiliate
someone's appearance, humiliate

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01:59:37,380 --> 01:59:40,380
and he went on and on about, you
know, just everything bad about

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01:59:40,380 --> 01:59:44,130
the art in terms of being
negative imagery. And he says

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01:59:44,130 --> 01:59:45,180
that's how you win.

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01:59:47,370 --> 01:59:49,230
Adam Curry: And you could have
been a part of that conversation

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01:59:49,230 --> 01:59:53,280
if you were following along. I
don't know agenda social.com Now

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01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:58,140
there were a number of pieces.
Let's see what did we see we had

2022
01:59:58,650 --> 02:00:03,090
some Schultz pieces by The way
you said that lots of people

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02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:05,790
know the Hogan's hero Hogan,

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John C Dvorak: I go God that's
where we got our some of our

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02:00:08,370 --> 02:00:11,160
early jingles based on Hogan. I
got exactly

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02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:14,880
Adam Curry: to both of them over
40. So,

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John C Dvorak: okay, anybody
who's under 40 That's familiar

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02:00:19,799 --> 02:00:25,229
with Hogan's Heroes and Schultz
saying I see nothing or anything

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02:00:25,229 --> 02:00:29,429
like that send an email to
adam@curry.com saying I'm in

2030
02:00:29,429 --> 02:00:34,949
that mode John's right. I would
put $1 on it, but I won't I got

2031
02:00:34,949 --> 02:00:36,869
the dollar running on the fire
jokes.

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02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:39,420
Adam Curry: We also have $1
running on something else.

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02:00:39,450 --> 02:00:42,960
John C Dvorak: I can't remember.
That's longterm in

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02:00:42,990 --> 02:00:44,670
Adam Curry: December, but I
don't know what it was for.

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02:00:45,210 --> 02:00:49,440
Anyway, let's take a look we
had. So we have some some shell

2036
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:58,620
stuff. We had the pre show mixed
cassette tape. Now that didn't

2037
02:00:58,620 --> 02:01:04,020
work. We had doped gold. We had
some just weird stuff. That

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02:01:04,020 --> 02:01:08,010
wasn't anything real. I liked
the mastermind. He walked away

2039
02:01:08,010 --> 02:01:11,790
with it. He did but I liked the
changes here, which was the

2040
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Ukraine flag being peeled back
to show to reveal the Chinese

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02:01:15,540 --> 02:01:17,520
flag. I liked that. Well. I
liked that one. I didn't like

2042
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:20,910
the cursive letters that were
used instead of bold curry

2043
02:01:20,910 --> 02:01:24,360
Dvorak and changes here. And you
said you didn't even see that

2044
02:01:24,360 --> 02:01:26,070
what it was you couldn't even
parse it.

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02:01:27,180 --> 02:01:30,540
John C Dvorak: Right. Which was
mentioned they say Yeah, kinda.

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02:01:31,290 --> 02:01:31,680
But

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Adam Curry: no, I liked that
one. Round he actually had to be

2048
02:01:36,570 --> 02:01:39,150
at two different color
backgrounds. And we went with

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02:01:39,150 --> 02:01:42,600
the obvious beautiful Chinese
red.

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02:01:42,930 --> 02:01:45,390
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he probably
I'm guessing that he did the

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02:01:45,390 --> 02:01:48,570
first one. And then he is
thinking about what can I do to

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02:01:48,570 --> 02:01:53,430
improve it? And because they all
artists do that they if they if

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02:01:53,430 --> 02:01:58,260
they think is not quite 100%
there and then so when he put

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02:01:58,260 --> 02:02:01,770
the red background of the
Chinese flag, and then the stars

2055
02:02:01,770 --> 02:02:06,480
around his head, yellow may look
even more like the Chinese flag

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02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:10,230
and that was a winner. I don't
know if the other one would have

2057
02:02:10,230 --> 02:02:11,520
won. Hmm

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02:02:13,110 --> 02:02:15,540
Adam Curry: Well, the one we
looked at was Matthew dropped co

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02:02:15,540 --> 02:02:18,930
Tucker's big dud we actually
consider that for a second

2060
02:02:18,930 --> 02:02:22,080
because it was higher good
higher up on the list. Yeah,

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02:02:22,140 --> 02:02:25,950
then then the the round anyone

2062
02:02:27,330 --> 02:02:29,550
John C Dvorak: like to drop
copies right away?

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02:02:29,580 --> 02:02:33,810
Adam Curry: Yeah, you did but
then once we once we saw once we

2064
02:02:33,810 --> 02:02:37,230
saw what I'm saying it just
seems like Are you hearing me

2065
02:02:37,230 --> 02:02:39,540
okay, because people are saying
that the stream is stuttering I

2066
02:02:39,540 --> 02:02:42,630
don't know. You sound good.
Okay, well then we're fine then

2067
02:02:42,630 --> 02:02:50,790
somewhere else. From January 6
stuff I think that's it and then

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02:02:50,790 --> 02:02:54,240
all the other stuff is new. I do
love Taunton Neil, who keeps

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02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:58,590
trying to get us to talk about I
guess she's a she's into

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02:02:58,590 --> 02:02:59,550
crocheting

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02:03:00,870 --> 02:03:02,460
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she she
must be

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02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:06,390
Adam Curry: and well what the
crochet community believe it or

2073
02:03:06,390 --> 02:03:08,580
not, there's a crochet community
a quite a

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02:03:08,580 --> 02:03:10,620
John C Dvorak: bit and there's a
knitting community as a crochet

2075
02:03:10,620 --> 02:03:13,770
there's an embroidery community
have meetings that got a lot of

2076
02:03:13,770 --> 02:03:18,570
Americans show sewing machine
shops, and you go into a bunch

2077
02:03:18,570 --> 02:03:21,570
of women go in there they all
get a machine to dick around

2078
02:03:21,570 --> 02:03:25,680
with so they learn how to do
certain tricks.

2079
02:03:25,710 --> 02:03:28,680
Adam Curry: So what what they
were trying to do and what has

2080
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:31,350
been very disappointing to the
crocheting community see this is

2081
02:03:31,350 --> 02:03:35,820
the kind of content that people
are missing out on if you want

2082
02:03:35,820 --> 02:03:41,310
to have an artificial
intelligence create a crocheting

2083
02:03:41,970 --> 02:03:45,420
I guess, is it a pattern or
whatever the crochet errs go to

2084
02:03:45,420 --> 02:03:49,590
template. Yeah. And so they
would upload a picture of curry

2085
02:03:49,590 --> 02:03:56,010
Dvorak. And, and the crocheting
template that came out was not

2086
02:03:56,010 --> 02:04:00,180
really cool looking for us
couple of balls. Yeah, we look

2087
02:04:00,180 --> 02:04:04,230
really stupid. It was no good.
It was no good. So I don't think

2088
02:04:04,230 --> 02:04:06,210
we're ever going to choose
anything. We're probably not

2089
02:04:06,210 --> 02:04:08,550
even going to talk about the
topic except in the donation

2090
02:04:08,550 --> 02:04:13,530
segment where all the good stuff
happens to Neil. Interesting,

2091
02:04:13,530 --> 02:04:16,140
our stream is dead. I have no
idea why my people I'm

2092
02:04:16,140 --> 02:04:18,450
connected. I have no no idea
what people are having a

2093
02:04:18,450 --> 02:04:22,470
problem. Okay, mothers have to
deal with it. And you know what,

2094
02:04:22,470 --> 02:04:24,360
that's what happens when
everyone leaves all of a sudden

2095
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:27,510
in the streams can be their
fault, their fault. Thanks,

2096
02:04:27,510 --> 02:04:32,610
trolls. Good work. And thank you
very much, Roger. roundy. Two in

2097
02:04:32,610 --> 02:04:35,040
a row. The way it works here is
if you get three in a row, you

2098
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:39,900
get a hat trick. And that comes
with all kinds of prizes. Yeah.

2099
02:04:41,730 --> 02:04:44,100
John C Dvorak: That in two bucks
give you a cup of coffee. This

2100
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:44,220
is

2101
02:04:44,220 --> 02:04:46,410
Adam Curry: a value for value
program. That's why you don't

2102
02:04:46,410 --> 02:04:50,190
hear and we could be playing
ads, by the way with a million

2103
02:04:50,190 --> 02:04:55,230
listeners per show. That's 1000
CPMs. Let's say we read two

2104
02:04:55,230 --> 02:04:59,970
spots about $25. We could do
$50,000 In Episode Two

2105
02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:03,930
John C Dvorak: Yeah, for as long
as until they found this out

2106
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:06,390
Adam Curry: until they figured
out what we were talking about.

2107
02:05:06,390 --> 02:05:11,700
And we'll be over very quick. So
we exist by the grace of the

2108
02:05:11,700 --> 02:05:15,360
people who feel they've received
value from this program. And

2109
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:18,540
let's be honest, you got a lot
of value today. You don't have

2110
02:05:18,540 --> 02:05:21,990
to worry, you know what's coming
up. You'll be the smart person

2111
02:05:21,990 --> 02:05:25,590
in the room, Monday at school or
at work, and I know what's going

2112
02:05:25,590 --> 02:05:28,680
on with the Silicon Valley Bank
thing. I know what's going on.

2113
02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:32,430
We're moving to China. Don't
worry, don't be freaked out.

2114
02:05:32,430 --> 02:05:37,170
Don't get so upset. You'll be
the one that has that calm. And

2115
02:05:37,170 --> 02:05:41,220
that piece over you. Surely that
is worth some value. And to some

2116
02:05:41,220 --> 02:05:45,540
people it is and they return
that in the form of time, talent

2117
02:05:45,540 --> 02:05:49,290
and treasure, which is all we
request. Many people do lots of

2118
02:05:49,290 --> 02:05:52,020
things for us. We have people
who also helped produce the

2119
02:05:52,020 --> 02:05:56,610
program with clips and, and
websites and other boots on the

2120
02:05:56,610 --> 02:05:59,370
ground information. But of
course, we also need some

2121
02:05:59,370 --> 02:06:02,580
treasure and the time talent and
treasure department and Rob wing

2122
02:06:02,820 --> 02:06:05,670
is our top executive producer
today. He's from Essex from

2123
02:06:05,700 --> 02:06:11,280
Epping in Great Britain $500 And
he says hey John and Adam and

2124
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:14,250
said he has a longest donation
no but since it's short and he's

2125
02:06:14,250 --> 02:06:24,210
the top I'm going to read it all
on a second there we go. Hi,

2126
02:06:24,210 --> 02:06:27,720
John, Adam Rob wing from Essex
here for those that don't know

2127
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:31,050
Essex is in the UK it's much
like East London but with lots

2128
02:06:31,050 --> 02:06:34,680
of trees. Big fan of the show
for ever since I heard Adam on

2129
02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:37,470
JRE around three years ago
broken donation I really

2130
02:06:37,470 --> 02:06:40,590
appreciate all you guys do and
of course what the producers do

2131
02:06:40,770 --> 02:06:43,410
before we go further I have to
admit this is my first donation

2132
02:06:43,410 --> 02:06:46,560
so obviously I need to de
douching obviously you need that

2133
02:06:48,420 --> 02:06:50,250
Unknown: you've been de duced

2134
02:06:53,820 --> 02:06:56,070
Adam Curry: nice to see things
are unraveling with the lockdown

2135
02:06:56,070 --> 02:07:00,480
files you in the UK. Apparently
the telegraph paper has enough

2136
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:03,840
content for the next three
months. Oh, this is the the

2137
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:08,430
WhatsApp chat files. So I'm
looking forward to when they get

2138
02:07:08,430 --> 02:07:11,340
to the vaccine efficacy. It's
not getting a huge amount of

2139
02:07:11,340 --> 02:07:13,860
coverage in the UK for reasons
the listeners will understand.

2140
02:07:14,010 --> 02:07:16,350
But the information is starting
to get out there more and more

2141
02:07:16,350 --> 02:07:19,590
even the BBC reported on it and
that's saying something you

2142
02:07:19,590 --> 02:07:22,380
think there will be more outrage
but either people aren't aware

2143
02:07:22,380 --> 02:07:29,160
or like my douchebag brother in
law, Ronan drone. Ronan, they

2144
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:32,010
simply don't want to know but
these are the same people that

2145
02:07:32,010 --> 02:07:34,680
were happy to belittle me or
lump me in with the Flat

2146
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:37,770
Earthers at the time for
questioning the narrative or for

2147
02:07:37,770 --> 02:07:41,490
not taking the vaccine accepting
the vaccine into my life. I'd

2148
02:07:41,490 --> 02:07:45,030
appreciate a douchebag jingle
for the inlaw just done Lastly,

2149
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:48,540
I want to thank my smokin hot
wife Laura who appreciate you

2150
02:07:48,540 --> 02:07:53,100
keeping my amygdala small love
his lips as Rob and he wants a

2151
02:07:53,310 --> 02:08:00,060
Don't eat me. Bow Jaiden Okay,
oh hold on a second. Don't eat

2152
02:08:00,060 --> 02:08:06,180
me bow Jaiden Where is where is
that bow? Jaiden Don't eat me.

2153
02:08:07,050 --> 02:08:10,590
Is it? Is it we have a bow

2154
02:08:11,190 --> 02:08:13,560
John C Dvorak: Don't eat me.
Yeah, but I bow Jaiden all I

2155
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:17,610
Adam Curry: have is Hillary This
is very weird. Don't eat me bow

2156
02:08:17,610 --> 02:08:18,390
Jaiden

2157
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:21,300
John C Dvorak: get bored Jaden.

2158
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:24,600
Adam Curry: Yeah I'm looking at
Bo Jaiden oh here we go for some

2159
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:26,550
reason. Oh apostrophe go figure

2160
02:08:31,890 --> 02:08:36,930
followed by a good karma we got
it for karma.

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02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:45,390
John C Dvorak: jermichael Clink
is up next. clink clink clink.

2162
02:08:45,570 --> 02:08:52,530
Oh god. Lombard Illinois, ITM
guys, okay, I can take a hint.

2163
02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:58,710
All the Hogan's Heroes talk talk
last show it's been a while

2164
02:08:58,710 --> 02:09:05,580
since my last donation ah ha
drummed up a donation if you

2165
02:09:05,580 --> 02:09:08,100
could play Fletcher yelling
Hogan

2166
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:11,190
Adam Curry: that would that
doesn't exist

2167
02:09:11,580 --> 02:09:13,560
John C Dvorak: I don't think it
does either. We had Fletcher do

2168
02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:15,360
all this stuff based on the
based on

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02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:17,850
Adam Curry: Hogan but we never
actually but you know what, as I

2170
02:09:17,850 --> 02:09:21,600
was because I looked just to
make sure Fletcher has done some

2171
02:09:21,630 --> 02:09:28,560
outrageous stuff for us if you
don't mind. We had that one. And

2172
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:29,400
we had

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Unknown: ladies and gentlemen.
It is time to Ramallah eyes.

2174
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It's a little bit funny. No,
it's not

2175
02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:49,710
Adam Curry: he has done so much.
Oh, I don't know where that came

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from. Oh, this is a good one.

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02:09:52,139 --> 02:09:53,879
Unknown: Ah, happy birthday.

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02:09:56,130 --> 02:09:58,770
Adam Curry: Anyway, no, we don't
have that one. So you just got a

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02:09:58,770 --> 02:10:00,000
nice night.

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02:10:00,359 --> 02:10:02,789
John C Dvorak: Hill says one
end. Oh, I hope so.

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02:10:02,910 --> 02:10:03,480
Unknown: I hope so.

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02:10:05,009 --> 02:10:06,209
John C Dvorak: All right. Well,
that was

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02:10:06,210 --> 02:10:11,640
Adam Curry: it. Oh, yeah. Well,
that was easy. way he wanted to

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02:10:13,740 --> 02:10:16,230
wait a minute, but yeah, but
what does that tell you? We miss

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02:10:16,230 --> 02:10:19,620
Masimo I think we missed
Massimo. Yeah, we missed out.

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02:10:19,650 --> 02:10:23,400
Yeah. Masimo Cattaneo Oh, I miss
Masimo okay, you can read that

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02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:26,940
when he's from Noosa Heads in
Queensland, Australia. John,

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02:10:26,940 --> 02:10:31,110
Adam, please expect this bag of
threes. That's 333 dot 33 from

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02:10:31,110 --> 02:10:34,650
Masimo from kin kin Queensland,
Australia, the equivalent of

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02:10:34,650 --> 02:10:39,000
goats Gulch from my Damond I go
karma for everyone, because we

2191
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:41,790
will need it and donate every
once in a while. People cheat.

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02:10:41,790 --> 02:10:46,470
Oh, thank you. You've got karma.

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02:10:48,630 --> 02:10:53,160
John C Dvorak: I believe that
was Chow. When I say she out.

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02:10:54,360 --> 02:11:01,230
Okay, Ciao. Ciao, ciao to David
in Grapevine, Texas. Switcheroo

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02:11:01,230 --> 02:11:08,970
for Dame Karen. Okay, we can do
that up done. New Jersey and big

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02:11:09,300 --> 02:11:13,590
goat to my best girl, the newly
minted Dame Karen who will be

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02:11:13,590 --> 02:11:19,080
celebrating her birthday on 313
as a dame because a birthday to

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02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:21,510
you. I'm not she's on the list
that we usually put some yellow

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02:11:21,510 --> 02:11:25,710
in here. I know this isn't
exactly. I know. This isn't the

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02:11:25,710 --> 02:11:31,140
exact ring she keeps asking for.
But hopefully it will do for

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02:11:31,140 --> 02:11:35,130
now. No agenda has been the
official podcast of the road

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02:11:35,130 --> 02:11:40,140
trips. And as we come to realize
our exit strategy of life on the

2203
02:11:40,140 --> 02:11:46,050
road. We look forward to many
more years and at least one more

2204
02:11:46,110 --> 02:11:47,640
presidential campaign.

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02:11:49,290 --> 02:11:52,470
Adam Curry: Season of wishful
thinking wishful thinking this

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02:11:52,470 --> 02:11:55,320
John C Dvorak: coming verb
placeholder name will be named

2207
02:11:55,320 --> 02:12:01,200
Karen keeper of the travel
hounds. And she will have a Pino

2208
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:07,920
Taj from the Stellan bike
region, and black in red snapper

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and asparagus. Oh, ISAC. I was
confused by the React she's

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02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:14,280
getting a ring but she's getting
our ring. She wants a wedding

2211
02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:14,520
ring.

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02:12:14,550 --> 02:12:18,900
Adam Curry: Oh. Now we
understand now the monkey comes

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02:12:18,900 --> 02:12:20,100
out of the sleeve. We got it.

2214
02:12:20,550 --> 02:12:23,670
John C Dvorak: Okay, and she
says black and red snapper and

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02:12:23,670 --> 02:12:26,370
asparagus. Happy birthday. Damn,
Karen.

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02:12:27,330 --> 02:12:32,400
Adam Curry: I was going to ask
you we had a wine. The other

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02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:36,390
night we were invited to a
dinner. And I enjoyed this very

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02:12:36,390 --> 02:12:39,360
much. I wanted to mention it to
Utah ask you what you thought it

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02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:44,220
was a Spring Mountain vineyard
ellevet 2004

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02:12:47,100 --> 02:12:48,810
John C Dvorak: Are you for
Spring Mountain Vineyards a very

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02:12:48,810 --> 02:12:56,040
famous place it was this literal
set for the soap opera Falcon

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02:12:56,040 --> 02:12:56,460
Crest.

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02:12:56,490 --> 02:12:59,520
Adam Curry: Oh, I love Yes, I'd
love Falcon Crest. We'd love

2224
02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:03,930
Monza of LeMans LeMans Oh, man.
What was that guy's name Lorenzo

2225
02:13:03,930 --> 02:13:06,360
de mas Lamaze Lorenzo Yeah,

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02:13:06,780 --> 02:13:09,300
John C Dvorak: they were very
popular winery back in his 70s

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02:13:09,300 --> 02:13:13,680
ca when they first cropped up,
and they've always had decent

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02:13:13,680 --> 02:13:16,470
one. I haven't had a Spring
Mountain line probably for 20

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02:13:16,470 --> 02:13:18,540
years. So I can't tell you much
about it.

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02:13:18,570 --> 02:13:22,830
Adam Curry: Well, because it was
a 2004 so literally almost 20

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02:13:22,830 --> 02:13:26,760
years ago. Yeah, it was great.
Was really dynamite.

2232
02:13:26,820 --> 02:13:27,900
John C Dvorak: Was it a
Cabernet?

2233
02:13:29,580 --> 02:13:30,210
Adam Curry: Yes kind

2234
02:13:30,210 --> 02:13:31,920
John C Dvorak: of
characteristics today? Yeah, I

2235
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:33,690
think a Cabernet artistica mirlo

2236
02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:37,950
Adam Curry: No like a Cabernet
it's it was bold. I would say

2237
02:13:38,010 --> 02:13:42,150
Minton by medium not you know if
you have smooth tannic it was

2238
02:13:42,150 --> 02:13:47,070
dry a little bit acidic. Tasted
notes of blackberry, plum, dark

2239
02:13:47,070 --> 02:13:50,670
fruit, oak tobacco chocolate.
Enough little leathery, earthy

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02:13:50,670 --> 02:13:53,400
smoke. Reading from the app,

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02:13:53,519 --> 02:13:56,369
John C Dvorak: bird Haitian
orange and my all time favorite.

2242
02:13:57,150 --> 02:14:01,200
Adam Curry: Edward Musial of
Waterford, Michigan 222 dot 10

2243
02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:05,190
row of ducks and then a stick in
return for hours of beans

2244
02:14:05,190 --> 02:14:09,090
listening in the spirit of red
pilled America support what you

2245
02:14:09,090 --> 02:14:15,000
love or it goes away. This is so
true. F guess or F canceled for

2246
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:16,170
Derek hunter. He says

2247
02:14:21,060 --> 02:14:22,710
Unknown: you've got karma

2248
02:14:23,820 --> 02:14:27,090
Adam Curry: words. True words
were never spoken Edward. Thank

2249
02:14:27,090 --> 02:14:30,390
John C Dvorak: you. Yeah,
actually that's quite something

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02:14:30,390 --> 02:14:36,660
to note. Brian agro in
Cumberland Michigan. ITM please

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02:14:36,660 --> 02:14:42,720
de douche me. You've been D
deuced. Other ways donation.

2252
02:14:43,860 --> 02:14:50,010
21687. And I should if I didn't
mention it, but our Texan is 313

2253
02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:54,120
The switcheroo for Dame Karen. I
don't know if I said the price.

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02:14:54,360 --> 02:14:57,630
Oh, Kimberly Maine, by the way,
not come on in Michigan.

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02:14:57,960 --> 02:15:01,560
Cumberland, Maine. IGN. Please
do Wish me a possible exit

2256
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:06,060
strategy for you. He's got to
deduce. Sorry. Turn me turn the

2257
02:15:06,060 --> 02:15:13,680
show. Turn the show no. Turn the
after show. More from what are

2258
02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:16,920
you reading now? I'm trying to
figure out what he's saying. He

2259
02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:19,650
Adam Curry: says turn the after
show mixes from COVID into a

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02:15:19,650 --> 02:15:21,780
Broadway musical Can you not
read? It's

2261
02:15:21,780 --> 02:15:25,140
John C Dvorak: just so no, I've
got blurry vision this reason

2262
02:15:25,170 --> 02:15:31,860
all right. Please call my
brother, Dan a douchebag. Bring

2263
02:15:31,860 --> 02:15:36,720
back to three by three jingles.
Three by three and John's ot G

2264
02:15:37,560 --> 02:15:42,600
OTG going to OTG and that's not
mine. That's just my song. Brian

2265
02:15:42,600 --> 02:15:47,160
agro of Cumberland Maine.
Welcome back to three by three

2266
02:15:47,220 --> 02:15:49,530
jingles three by three. Okay. He
wants to do

2267
02:15:49,590 --> 02:15:55,200
Unknown: this show. Send your
cash. You will obey. Now it's

2268
02:15:55,200 --> 02:16:00,300
time for a three by three.
Experiment by JC talking about

2269
02:16:00,390 --> 02:16:04,110
comparisons don't refund ABC,
CBS and NBC

2270
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:08,310
Adam Curry: three and here's
what he asked for.

2271
02:16:10,740 --> 02:16:15,030
Unknown: John Cena Borak
Bakelite today's Teddy K he's an

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02:16:15,030 --> 02:16:15,900
OTG

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02:16:15,900 --> 02:16:20,370
Adam Curry: kind of guy right?
That's not the one I think this

2274
02:16:20,370 --> 02:16:24,540
is the one OTG going oh, that's
your song Baby right there.

2275
02:16:24,540 --> 02:16:24,720
Who's

2276
02:16:25,230 --> 02:16:29,580
John C Dvorak: gonna guy? Yeah,
and then you did a bit on OTG

2277
02:16:30,990 --> 02:16:31,740
TMZ Yeah,

2278
02:16:31,769 --> 02:16:33,899
Adam Curry: we don't do that
anymore. Because we lost

2279
02:16:33,899 --> 02:16:38,639
everybody to tick tock so yeah,
now we're just telling people to

2280
02:16:38,639 --> 02:16:41,459
not listen at two times speed
you know not kill yourself.

2281
02:16:42,389 --> 02:16:47,699
Thank you, Brian. Nice idea.
Yeah, not gonna happen. We do

2282
02:16:47,699 --> 02:16:51,809
have some I received five column
five and of show mixes all

2283
02:16:51,809 --> 02:16:55,529
beautiful songs. I received a
couple like from Sir Brian with

2284
02:16:55,529 --> 02:16:58,589
an eye which are meant to be the
equivalent of shoving bamboo

2285
02:16:58,589 --> 02:17:01,469
sticks under your fingernails
John, so I'm going to refrain

2286
02:17:01,469 --> 02:17:04,829
from playing that. But it was
good. It was good by the old

2287
02:17:04,829 --> 02:17:10,379
standards. So get your singing
caps on people. Sir Baron John

2288
02:17:10,379 --> 02:17:14,429
Helmer from Shawnee Kansas our
last donation This is very short

2289
02:17:14,459 --> 02:17:17,609
eight donors for executive and
Associate Executive producers.

2290
02:17:17,699 --> 02:17:20,249
This is very very poor showing.

2291
02:17:20,789 --> 02:17:22,049
John C Dvorak: Yes seven
actually.

2292
02:17:23,250 --> 02:17:27,030
Adam Curry: The UK right seven
were to 1537 in the morning John

2293
02:17:27,030 --> 02:17:29,940
Adams sending value for value
$200 plus a show donation of

2294
02:17:29,940 --> 02:17:33,600
1537. That's interesting way to
do that like that. No jingles

2295
02:17:33,600 --> 02:17:36,180
but I'd like a shot of sales
karma to meet quota for the

2296
02:17:36,180 --> 02:17:39,360
second half of our fiscal year.
Thank you for your courage sir

2297
02:17:39,360 --> 02:17:42,450
Baron John, Helmer Shawnee,
Kansas so I will give you some

2298
02:17:42,450 --> 02:17:50,760
of that sales karma so we're
gonna go real quick here through

2299
02:17:50,760 --> 02:17:54,330
the through the $50 donation.
John's gonna give it to him when

2300
02:17:54,330 --> 02:17:56,730
I get set up for our meetups
everything short today and be

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02:17:56,730 --> 02:17:56,970
very

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02:17:57,360 --> 02:18:01,710
John C Dvorak: $2 Yeah, they are
the meetups a short to learn

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02:18:01,710 --> 02:18:06,270
today dollars and 85 cents comes
from Peter Berg. Rajesh nig.

2304
02:18:06,360 --> 02:18:07,980
Rajesh, Nick, we love

2305
02:18:07,979 --> 02:18:10,739
Adam Curry: this guy. We can't
nobody can pronounce your

2306
02:18:10,919 --> 02:18:12,539
pronunciation guide brother. We

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02:18:12,570 --> 02:18:15,240
John C Dvorak: were struggling
Thornton. Colorado struggling

2308
02:18:15,600 --> 02:18:22,440
Adam. Burt generic Burgener in
couple brother Copperas Cove

2309
02:18:22,470 --> 02:18:26,670
Copperas Cove Texas 100. You
should not have debt goes.

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02:18:27,420 --> 02:18:33,090
Anonymous. I got that one. In
Vorhees New Jersey. 100. Surely

2311
02:18:33,090 --> 02:18:36,990
and Gurney Ville I'm sorry.
Guerneville Yeah, there you go.

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02:18:37,710 --> 02:18:40,350
Used to be called Gurney Ville
when I was a kid they always

2313
02:18:40,350 --> 02:18:46,020
flood flood it's flooded flooded
city. 100 Boom. Kevin McLaughlin

2314
02:18:46,020 --> 02:18:51,600
locusts, North Carolina $8 and
$80.08 love that Chris O'Hara in

2315
02:18:52,350 --> 02:18:58,830
Hummelstown Pennsylvania 7773.
I'll get a count on Kevin

2316
02:18:58,830 --> 02:19:03,390
Mickelson's record. Okay, so
getting into the Guinness Book.

2317
02:19:04,020 --> 02:19:06,570
Adam Curry: You know, we could
we could probably enter that.

2318
02:19:07,110 --> 02:19:09,600
Yeah, it's worth probably worth
try it.

2319
02:19:09,900 --> 02:19:13,290
John C Dvorak: Worth a shot.
Devin Roderick Painesville

2320
02:19:13,290 --> 02:19:20,100
Washington. 75. Peter Wait a
minute. St. Peter Peters on

2321
02:19:20,100 --> 02:19:24,900
again. From righteous stick
Peter righteous niggy In

2322
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:32,460
Thornton, Colorado. He's back
was 6934 Not at all public

2323
02:19:32,460 --> 02:19:35,820
school teachers bent on what
that means. Sir Kevin McLaughlin

2324
02:19:35,820 --> 02:19:40,320
is back with 606 A small booth
small boobs nice for these two

2325
02:19:40,320 --> 02:19:44,640
guys. We'd be doing poorly.
Yeah. Michael Bundy in

2326
02:19:44,640 --> 02:19:50,100
Knoxville, Tennessee. 606 also
small boobs. Adam keeps dragging

2327
02:19:50,100 --> 02:19:51,150
and unresectable he's

2328
02:19:51,180 --> 02:19:54,330
Adam Curry: no John. I don't do
that. This John. What? What are

2329
02:19:54,330 --> 02:19:58,860
you talking about? I'm father of
eight human resources. We had

2330
02:19:58,860 --> 02:20:01,290
the snip to be done with Kids
The jokes are just part of

2331
02:20:01,290 --> 02:20:05,760
accepting consequences of the
choices we make. I don't rag on

2332
02:20:05,760 --> 02:20:08,430
them. I'm proud of you

2333
02:20:08,460 --> 02:20:10,440
John C Dvorak: and well, you've
done well. You've done your

2334
02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:10,830
part.

2335
02:20:11,490 --> 02:20:13,620
Adam Curry: Yeah, you should
just I mean, you must be tired

2336
02:20:13,620 --> 02:20:14,880
brother. That's all I can think.

2337
02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:17,970
John C Dvorak: 30 days probably
still tired. Norristown

2338
02:20:17,970 --> 02:20:21,420
Pennsylvania 5555 clock boy

2339
02:20:24,840 --> 02:20:27,270
Adam Curry: clock boy has a
message for us Don't forget to

2340
02:20:27,270 --> 02:20:33,300
set your bombs forward one hour.
Oh man, remember Obama he had

2341
02:20:33,300 --> 02:20:34,920
clock boy come to the White
House.

2342
02:20:35,070 --> 02:20:37,830
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah clock boy
the phony Highland heights and

2343
02:20:37,830 --> 02:20:40,800
Kentucky's with this clock boy
because of 5510 Yeah, then the

2344
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:43,980
next thing you know he moved to
Libya. This is the clock boy

2345
02:20:43,980 --> 02:20:47,760
situations what got me kicked
off. Initially from the note

2346
02:20:47,760 --> 02:20:50,040
from the from twit he'll report
show.

2347
02:20:50,070 --> 02:20:52,740
Adam Curry: Yeah, because you
were saying it was bull crap.

2348
02:20:52,740 --> 02:20:55,470
And they were all in on clock
boy. Oh, yeah, they

2349
02:20:55,470 --> 02:20:58,470
John C Dvorak: bought cluck boy
hook line and sinker, which is

2350
02:20:58,470 --> 02:21:01,860
what you can expect on most
podcasts? Yeah, not this one.

2351
02:21:02,550 --> 02:21:06,750
David shrinking me get her. in
Woodbridge, Virginia 50. These

2352
02:21:06,750 --> 02:21:10,680
are $50 donors. There's not too
many of them. Margarita and Eden

2353
02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:14,100
hood in Orangeville, California,
Carrie Cunningham in Warrenton,

2354
02:21:14,100 --> 02:21:19,260
Virginia. Gavin McGoldrick in
San Francisco, California

2355
02:21:19,260 --> 02:21:25,170
Fletcher Scaife, Scapy Scapy and
Wilson, North Dakota. Gary Mau

2356
02:21:25,170 --> 02:21:29,400
in Woodland Hills, California,
Michael Wendell in Matawan New

2357
02:21:29,400 --> 02:21:35,190
Jersey. chasten I borrow in
Northridge, California. Stephen

2358
02:21:35,190 --> 02:21:42,120
crummy in El Cajon, California.
Sure. 33 megahertz in Kelowna

2359
02:21:42,210 --> 02:21:49,350
Kelowna I think is Kelowna BC
and he's got a funny little note

2360
02:21:49,350 --> 02:21:54,360
there and then William dole gay
I would last but not least 31

2361
02:21:54,360 --> 02:21:58,950
Total donations in Bristol Ville
Ohio really poor I don't

2362
02:21:58,950 --> 02:22:00,690
understand why fell off like
that.

2363
02:22:00,690 --> 02:22:02,520
Adam Curry: Well, it's because
people are like, man, and no

2364
02:22:02,520 --> 02:22:05,010
more good indoor show mixes
we're just we're not gonna

2365
02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:05,760
donate.

2366
02:22:06,840 --> 02:22:08,520
John C Dvorak: Well, they're
gonna get a good one today.

2367
02:22:09,840 --> 02:22:13,590
Adam Curry: Apologies everybody.
What happened is some douchebag

2368
02:22:13,650 --> 02:22:16,980
unleashed a DDoS attack on our
stream the minute we hit the

2369
02:22:16,980 --> 02:22:20,010
donations because it's funny,
you know, it's funny to do that.

2370
02:22:20,550 --> 02:22:23,370
Why don't we not stream anymore?
I'm tired of it. I'm tired of

2371
02:22:23,370 --> 02:22:27,660
trolls. I'm tired of the stream
being being attacked. We're

2372
02:22:27,660 --> 02:22:28,770
under attack John.

2373
02:22:30,810 --> 02:22:31,560
Unknown: You love it?

2374
02:22:34,860 --> 02:22:36,930
Adam Curry: Was that it? That
was it. Right? That was it?

2375
02:22:36,930 --> 02:22:37,200
Yeah,

2376
02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:39,720
John C Dvorak: that's it. That's
our full group of well wishers

2377
02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:43,170
and supporters for show 1537
Want to thank each and every

2378
02:22:43,170 --> 02:22:43,350
one,

2379
02:22:43,620 --> 02:22:45,990
Adam Curry: man. Yeah, make no
mistake. We love you. Thank you

2380
02:22:45,990 --> 02:22:48,840
for supporting our show. Thank
you for supporting your show. It

2381
02:22:48,840 --> 02:22:51,540
is after all, the best podcast
in the universe because of you.

2382
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:54,090
If you'd like to learn more
about where you can donate

2383
02:22:54,090 --> 02:22:57,150
evora.org/and

2384
02:22:57,210 --> 02:22:57,840
Unknown: A special

2385
02:22:57,840 --> 02:23:00,450
Adam Curry: thanks to our
executive one wasn't one

2386
02:23:00,450 --> 02:23:04,800
executive know what we had three
executive producers for

2387
02:23:04,800 --> 02:23:08,640
executive producers and three
Associate Executive producers.

2388
02:23:08,700 --> 02:23:11,340
Hey, you're gonna look good on
the credits today. They are

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entertainment industry have
these credits of course I am

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your LinkedIn or on your resume
it all looks good and unlike the

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02:23:29,760 --> 02:23:32,340
phonies in Hollywood you'll be
watching tonight at the Oscars

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02:23:32,340 --> 02:23:35,460
we will vouch for you if anyone
ever questions them thank you

2396
02:23:35,460 --> 02:23:39,180
for supporting the no agenda
show for episode 1537 heart

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02:23:39,180 --> 02:23:39,660
formula

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02:23:39,660 --> 02:23:43,590
Unknown: is this we go out we
hit people in the mouth

2399
02:24:02,670 --> 02:24:04,530
Adam Curry: Well, we're gonna
keep everything short today.

2400
02:24:04,530 --> 02:24:08,250
David Buss four wishes his
grandson Michael Big Mike Mr.

2401
02:24:08,250 --> 02:24:12,270
Happy Birthday you're turning
three on the 10th Ah love the

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02:24:12,270 --> 02:24:15,330
entertainment keeper of the
travel hounds wishes Dame care

2403
02:24:15,330 --> 02:24:17,940
and a happy birthday. Her
birthday is tomorrow and we say

2404
02:24:17,940 --> 02:24:20,910
happy birthday to everybody here
at the back office and the front

2405
02:24:20,910 --> 02:24:25,620
office of the best podcast in
the universe. And we have one

2406
02:24:25,620 --> 02:24:29,370
Dame to bring up on onto the now
she's getting a ring today. Not

2407
02:24:29,370 --> 02:24:32,640
the ring she may be wants but
it'll be a good start this ring.

2408
02:24:33,120 --> 02:24:35,550
Unknown: Yep. You're gonna go.
Yes,

2409
02:24:35,550 --> 02:24:36,840
Adam Curry: because you're
getting you're getting double

2410
02:24:36,840 --> 02:24:40,380
teamed by the blades there.
Karen. Step on up on the podium

2411
02:24:40,380 --> 02:24:44,760
please. Thanks to the man who
you would like to be your

2412
02:24:44,760 --> 02:24:47,430
husband. He's he's getting a
step in the right direction with

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02:24:47,430 --> 02:24:50,970
this one. He has supported you
in the amount of $1,000 or more

2414
02:24:50,970 --> 02:24:53,940
therefore we are very proud to
pronounce the Kate you today as

2415
02:24:53,940 --> 02:24:57,900
Dan Karen, keeper of the travel
hounds for you. We've got rent

2416
02:24:57,900 --> 02:25:00,120
boys and Chardonnay. I don't
think you need the hookers. And

2417
02:25:00,120 --> 02:25:04,200
bloke certainly not for for your
man now wouldn't want to have

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02:25:04,200 --> 02:25:07,260
make a mistake there. Also,
we've got a Pino Taj from the

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02:25:07,260 --> 02:25:10,320
Stellenbosch Regan region and
black and red snapper and

2420
02:25:10,320 --> 02:25:13,200
asparagus along with that in
case you want it back to Manila,

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02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:16,410
we got some bong hits and
bourbon we got some ginger ale

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02:25:16,410 --> 02:25:20,310
and Jerboas to get breast milk
and pablum, but you might enjoy

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02:25:20,310 --> 02:25:23,400
the mutton in Mead and scurry on
over to Noah the

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02:25:23,400 --> 02:25:26,790
nation.com/rings Anyone can go
take a look at these. They're

2425
02:25:26,790 --> 02:25:29,820
beautiful rings, they're Signet
rings so you can seal your

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02:25:29,820 --> 02:25:33,270
official correspondence with it.
We do supply some wax for that

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02:25:33,270 --> 02:25:36,480
along with your official
certificate of authenticity and

2428
02:25:36,480 --> 02:25:39,060
thank you again for becoming a
dame and thank you to your

2429
02:25:39,060 --> 02:25:42,990
future husband for supporting us
and supporting you. Here on the

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02:25:42,990 --> 02:25:43,470
no agenda

2431
02:25:43,470 --> 02:25:44,580
John C Dvorak: show no one

2432
02:25:51,030 --> 02:25:54,510
Adam Curry: we have no meetup
reports. But we do have a promo

2433
02:25:54,510 --> 02:25:55,290
so let's play that.

2434
02:25:56,490 --> 02:25:59,100
Unknown: We interrupt your
regularly scheduled programming

2435
02:25:59,100 --> 02:26:01,200
to bring you an urgent
announcement from the Pacific

2436
02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:04,470
Northwest. The North Idaho
sanity brigade will return to

2437
02:26:04,470 --> 02:26:07,800
their regularly scheduled
Thursday Nate a meet up at the

2438
02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:11,370
Selkirk Abbey and Post Falls.
And remember folks listening to

2439
02:26:11,370 --> 02:26:13,590
podcasts at 1.5 Makes you will
marry.

2440
02:26:15,870 --> 02:26:19,980
Adam Curry: A marry that's an
insult I haven't heard since the

2441
02:26:19,980 --> 02:26:20,310
14th

2442
02:26:20,340 --> 02:26:22,680
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
it is. I don't know what that

2443
02:26:22,680 --> 02:26:23,430
insult is

2444
02:26:23,460 --> 02:26:28,170
Adam Curry: assisity I guess
Yeah, marry guess. Monday we

2445
02:26:28,170 --> 02:26:31,860
have a meetup scheduled for you
at Springfield Springfield,

2446
02:26:31,860 --> 02:26:35,010
Missouri six o'clock and Blair's
all American Sports Bar and

2447
02:26:35,010 --> 02:26:38,250
Grill that Springfield,
Missouri. By the way you can

2448
02:26:38,250 --> 02:26:40,710
find all of these or read along
if you want to know agenda

2449
02:26:40,710 --> 02:26:45,720
meetups.com on Tuesday pretty
fly for a Pie Guy I Yes. John

2450
02:26:45,930 --> 02:26:52,500
314 Pi day, Tuesday I forgot it
again bra who I had I forget it

2451
02:26:52,500 --> 02:26:58,470
again. Today's to what Yeah, but
we can't do it on Thursday. You

2452
02:26:58,470 --> 02:27:01,500
get another failed promotion
from your no agenda show.

2453
02:27:02,160 --> 02:27:05,490
Thursday at Greenlee pizza
company in Greeley, Colorado

2454
02:27:05,490 --> 02:27:10,170
March 15 Wednesday, Fort Wayne
red pillars club 33. They meet

2455
02:27:10,170 --> 02:27:14,400
at 633 heads of Xian nose
Italian eatery. It's on DuPont

2456
02:27:14,400 --> 02:27:17,730
Road in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Oh
the Indiana's man they're great.

2457
02:27:18,390 --> 02:27:21,990
Hoosiers. And then on our next
show day Thursday, the Tucson

2458
02:27:21,990 --> 02:27:25,140
ladies and gentlemen start your
livers pre St. Patrick's Day

2459
02:27:25,140 --> 02:27:27,720
meet up Do you know what that's
going to be about? That's a four

2460
02:27:27,720 --> 02:27:30,690
o'clock at canyons crown in
Tucson Arizona Dane Beth

2461
02:27:30,690 --> 02:27:33,690
organizing for you also on the
next show day North Idaho Sandy

2462
02:27:33,690 --> 02:27:36,780
brigade. You just heard their
promo right there so Kirk Abbey

2463
02:27:36,780 --> 02:27:43,020
post Idaho photo Idaho Falls.
Also on Thursday, the mealworms

2464
02:27:43,020 --> 02:27:45,870
are for chickens not children
conference 630 at Lincoln's

2465
02:27:45,870 --> 02:27:49,260
Roadhouse, Denver, Colorado,
Charlotte's thirsty Third

2466
02:27:49,260 --> 02:27:52,560
Thursday coming up at seven
o'clock edge tavern, Charlotte,

2467
02:27:52,560 --> 02:27:57,810
North Carolina, and then we have
what March 17 Gary, Indiana. Are

2468
02:27:57,810 --> 02:28:03,030
you kidding me? Gary, Indiana.
My goodness. I want a meet up

2469
02:28:03,030 --> 02:28:06,990
report from Gary, Indiana. The
Indiana is out of control St.

2470
02:28:06,990 --> 02:28:10,110
Louis, Missouri on the 17th
Oklahoma City on the 18th point

2471
02:28:10,110 --> 02:28:15,210
Magoo Mugu, California is at
Point Mugu on the 18th Mount

2472
02:28:15,210 --> 02:28:18,480
Laurel township New Jersey Blue
Island Illinois Chicago on the

2473
02:28:18,480 --> 02:28:25,440
18th star Idaho in the 18th
sheep shop put up she she's

2474
02:28:25,470 --> 02:28:30,720
shocked she shopped Bavaria
Germany shout go ahead hit me

2475
02:28:30,720 --> 02:28:36,840
with a Hogan Oh God also on the
18th Cincinnati Ohio

2476
02:28:36,960 --> 02:28:41,130
independence township I mean we
have just it all the way through

2477
02:28:41,250 --> 02:28:45,360
March with the all the way
through April and we I think we

2478
02:28:45,360 --> 02:28:50,820
even have May we have all over
the world Toms River April 15 Oh

2479
02:28:50,820 --> 02:28:53,730
my God, no stomping grounds.
It's no agenda meetups. This is

2480
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:57,060
where you get to be with your
community. If you feel you don't

2481
02:28:57,060 --> 02:29:00,060
fit in if blush to be honest,
most of us don't if you're

2482
02:29:00,060 --> 02:29:03,180
listening to the no agenda show
you're different than most but

2483
02:29:03,180 --> 02:29:05,550
there may be a few around you
there may be more than you know

2484
02:29:05,580 --> 02:29:09,570
even in Gary Indiana no agenda
meetup.com As we can find your

2485
02:29:09,570 --> 02:29:13,620
community year near you remember
connection is protection

2486
02:29:14,010 --> 02:29:23,430
sometimes you want to go hang
out with Bom Bom you won't be

2487
02:29:23,490 --> 02:29:35,640
triggered you will be safe is
like always like a party. I came

2488
02:29:35,640 --> 02:29:37,890
ready for bear with my ISOs
today What do you have?

2489
02:29:38,310 --> 02:29:40,110
John C Dvorak: It's good because
I really didn't have much but I

2490
02:29:40,110 --> 02:29:42,510
got a couple but but you play
yours first and see if I can

2491
02:29:42,510 --> 02:29:42,900
topple

2492
02:29:43,020 --> 02:29:50,550
Adam Curry: okay. I start off
with this one. Now my baby Shut

2493
02:29:50,550 --> 02:29:54,210
up. Okay,

2494
02:29:54,240 --> 02:29:55,470
Unknown: so much bullshit.

2495
02:29:55,500 --> 02:29:56,430
We're drowning in it.

2496
02:29:57,390 --> 02:30:00,570
Adam Curry: A little crude,
truth and justice. are on our

2497
02:30:00,570 --> 02:30:02,970
side. Kind of like that one.

2498
02:30:03,210 --> 02:30:06,660
John C Dvorak: This little muted
really crazy stuff.

2499
02:30:07,470 --> 02:30:09,540
Adam Curry: Amy I like that one.
How about this one?

2500
02:30:09,570 --> 02:30:11,400
Unknown: It activates your
amygdala.

2501
02:30:11,430 --> 02:30:12,810
Come on, come

2502
02:30:12,810 --> 02:30:14,550
Adam Curry: on. And then

2503
02:30:14,550 --> 02:30:16,620
Unknown: the good guys, the bad
guys.

2504
02:30:16,650 --> 02:30:19,770
Adam Curry: Hey, go I like crazy
stuff and I like it activates

2505
02:30:19,770 --> 02:30:22,110
your amygdala. Those two are
good.

2506
02:30:22,440 --> 02:30:24,330
John C Dvorak: I like crazy
stuff because it reflects the

2507
02:30:24,330 --> 02:30:25,890
show. Okay, really

2508
02:30:25,890 --> 02:30:28,320
Adam Curry: crazy stuff. All
right. What do you have?

2509
02:30:28,770 --> 02:30:31,920
John C Dvorak: Well, I have a
door shutting desk. Something is

2510
02:30:31,920 --> 02:30:36,810
ISO door shows that we're
holding the door. Hold

2511
02:30:36,810 --> 02:30:41,370
Adam Curry: on. Let me just I
mean if you want a door door, I

2512
02:30:41,370 --> 02:30:46,740
got an open door it was door
closed door close. I got a door

2513
02:30:46,740 --> 02:30:50,820
close for you. That's a

2514
02:30:50,820 --> 02:30:53,190
John C Dvorak: door that sounds
like a cartoon door.

2515
02:30:53,970 --> 02:30:56,610
Adam Curry: And your other ISO.
Yeah,

2516
02:30:56,640 --> 02:30:58,800
John C Dvorak: this I think is a
good ending to the show because

2517
02:30:58,800 --> 02:31:02,970
it tells you what the show is
all about instructive. really

2518
02:31:02,970 --> 02:31:07,050
instructive. Now really crazy
stuff.

2519
02:31:07,140 --> 02:31:09,150
Adam Curry: Are we really
instructive or really crazy

2520
02:31:09,150 --> 02:31:10,560
stuff? Okay,

2521
02:31:10,589 --> 02:31:14,219
John C Dvorak: I think mine's
clear. Yeah, but you're right

2522
02:31:14,219 --> 02:31:16,109
now go with crazy. Okay, thank
you.

2523
02:31:19,260 --> 02:31:21,270
Unknown: Let's see, oh,

2524
02:31:21,480 --> 02:31:25,410
Adam Curry: this is interesting.
It's been three years. It's been

2525
02:31:25,410 --> 02:31:29,220
three years since this crazy
period started. These are

2526
02:31:29,220 --> 02:31:31,740
Unknown: the sites the nation
will never forget the

2527
02:31:31,740 --> 02:31:35,070
devastation from COVID-19,
leaving its mark on millions of

2528
02:31:35,070 --> 02:31:39,150
families. But three years later,
this trusted resource tracking

2529
02:31:39,150 --> 02:31:43,380
the pandemic for all to see is
gone. Johns Hopkins University

2530
02:31:43,380 --> 02:31:47,190
posted its final update before
discontinuing its COVID Tracker

2531
02:31:47,280 --> 02:31:50,850
because of a lack of available
data. CBS News CHIEF MEDICAL

2532
02:31:50,850 --> 02:31:54,030
CORRESPONDENT Dr. John Le Puth
points out even if the spotlight

2533
02:31:54,030 --> 02:31:54,210
is

2534
02:31:54,390 --> 02:31:57,180
Adam Curry: Jamba poop on doc
janela poop

2535
02:31:58,140 --> 02:32:01,290
Unknown: because of a lack of
available data. CBS News CHIEF

2536
02:32:01,290 --> 02:32:04,290
MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT Dr. John
Le pook points out that the

2537
02:32:04,290 --> 02:32:07,290
spotlight has dimmed COVID is
not over.

2538
02:32:07,320 --> 02:32:09,720
Oh, there are still hundreds of
people dying each day in the

2539
02:32:09,720 --> 02:32:13,140
United States. The question is,
how do we start getting back to

2540
02:32:13,140 --> 02:32:15,540
a more normal daily life.

2541
02:32:15,630 --> 02:32:19,890
The virus isn't going away.
Neither has the pain of the 1.1

2542
02:32:19,890 --> 02:32:23,730
million lives lost to COVID in
this country. But the pandemic's

2543
02:32:23,760 --> 02:32:27,660
impact on our everyday lives is
fading. The Biden administration

2544
02:32:27,660 --> 02:32:30,630
plans to end the COVID public
health emergency declaration in

2545
02:32:30,630 --> 02:32:33,990
may not fast enough for
conservatives who opposed

2546
02:32:33,990 --> 02:32:38,130
vaccine mandates. We chose
freedom over Fauci as the

2547
02:32:38,130 --> 02:32:42,090
pandemic changed parts of
American life forever. Plus,

2548
02:32:42,090 --> 02:32:44,310
there's the toll on public
trust,

2549
02:32:44,400 --> 02:32:48,090
there has been a devastating
collision of public health and

2550
02:32:48,090 --> 02:32:50,670
politics. And that's something
we're going to have to address

2551
02:32:50,670 --> 02:32:51,960
with better communication,

2552
02:32:52,140 --> 02:32:55,380
better explanation and better
investment in our public health

2553
02:32:55,380 --> 02:32:55,830
system.

2554
02:32:57,690 --> 02:32:59,880
Adam Curry: Do we actually have
a public health system? Is that

2555
02:32:59,880 --> 02:33:02,310
a correct characterization?

2556
02:33:03,870 --> 02:33:06,210
John C Dvorak: I've that's a
good question. I have no idea if

2557
02:33:06,210 --> 02:33:07,710
we I don't know. No,

2558
02:33:07,860 --> 02:33:09,240
Adam Curry: I mean, the NIH I

2559
02:33:09,240 --> 02:33:10,920
John C Dvorak: think there's
local there's

2560
02:33:11,010 --> 02:33:13,470
Adam Curry: we don't we don't
have a public housing so we got

2561
02:33:13,500 --> 02:33:17,130
public health control. Yeah, and
that's about it.

2562
02:33:18,930 --> 02:33:21,030
John C Dvorak: We don't think we
have about public health is due

2563
02:33:21,030 --> 02:33:23,160
to fluoride report and get that
Oh, I

2564
02:33:23,160 --> 02:33:25,050
Adam Curry: heard about this.
It's like it's been a lawsuit or

2565
02:33:25,050 --> 02:33:27,480
something taking place. Well,
let's

2566
02:33:27,480 --> 02:33:29,280
John C Dvorak: find out. Okay,
here we go. Oh,

2567
02:33:29,460 --> 02:33:33,480
Adam Curry: man, just say early
days of no agenda. I was I was

2568
02:33:33,510 --> 02:33:35,820
moaning and groaning about
fluoride in the water.

2569
02:33:36,060 --> 02:33:39,060
Unknown: And TD reached out to
the HHS for comment, but didn't

2570
02:33:39,060 --> 02:33:42,870
immediately hear back. During
fall of last year. A US District

2571
02:33:42,870 --> 02:33:46,470
Court Judge lifted a stay on our
protective order that order

2572
02:33:46,470 --> 02:33:50,430
shielded the NPT is recent study
on the toxicity of fluoride from

2573
02:33:50,430 --> 02:33:54,330
release. Most recently in
February meeting, the National

2574
02:33:54,330 --> 02:33:57,360
Institute for Environmental
Health Sciences agreed to

2575
02:33:57,360 --> 02:34:01,140
publicize the NPT report. The
institute is expected to post

2576
02:34:01,140 --> 02:34:05,310
the report on npTL website
before March 15. The posted

2577
02:34:05,310 --> 02:34:08,880
documents could play a major
role in the second trial phase

2578
02:34:08,880 --> 02:34:12,510
of the ongoing legal battle. A
previous review on fluoride

2579
02:34:12,540 --> 02:34:14,550
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, by the
way, I for some reason I played

2580
02:34:14,550 --> 02:34:17,130
report to first but we'll just
finish it

2581
02:34:17,160 --> 02:34:20,760
Unknown: conducted by the NPT
found that fluoride is presumed

2582
02:34:20,760 --> 02:34:23,610
to be a cognitive
neurodevelopmental hazard to

2583
02:34:23,610 --> 02:34:27,240
humans. However, the report said
the conclusions were based on a

2584
02:34:27,240 --> 02:34:30,510
higher amount of fluoride that
is found in US drinking water.

2585
02:34:30,630 --> 02:34:34,350
Advocates of fluoride use argue
it could prevent tooth decay.

2586
02:34:34,680 --> 02:34:37,800
The next court hearing in the
case is scheduled for April 11.

2587
02:34:37,860 --> 02:34:38,280
I really

2588
02:34:38,280 --> 02:34:40,380
Adam Curry: apologize. This is
the first clip that should have

2589
02:34:40,380 --> 02:34:41,550
been played prior.

2590
02:34:41,610 --> 02:34:44,280
Unknown: A study on the
potential dangers of fluoride is

2591
02:34:44,280 --> 02:34:47,280
expected to be released soon as
part of a lawsuit against

2592
02:34:47,280 --> 02:34:50,040
government agency. According to
plaintiffs, the Department of

2593
02:34:50,040 --> 02:34:53,010
Health and Human Services
previously blocked the study's

2594
02:34:53,010 --> 02:34:53,700
release

2595
02:34:53,760 --> 02:34:57,720
the fluoride Action Network or
Fhn filed a lawsuit against the

2596
02:34:57,720 --> 02:35:03,600
US Environmental Protection
Agency or EPA back in 2017. Fa n

2597
02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:06,600
is trying to ban the use of
fluoride in public water

2598
02:35:06,600 --> 02:35:11,040
supplies in the US. The National
Toxicology Program or NPT

2599
02:35:11,070 --> 02:35:15,210
conducted a study on fluoride
toxicity. However, the NPT

2600
02:35:15,210 --> 02:35:18,540
hasn't publicized this study
yet. internal emails seem to

2601
02:35:18,540 --> 02:35:21,750
indicate that the study wasn't
published because the federal

2602
02:35:21,750 --> 02:35:25,050
government interfered in its
publication. The attorney for

2603
02:35:25,050 --> 02:35:29,070
the plaintiffs received internal
CDC emails through a Freedom of

2604
02:35:29,070 --> 02:35:32,580
Information Act request. The
emails were quoted in this court

2605
02:35:32,580 --> 02:35:36,690
filing, stating as h Levine has
put the report on hold until

2606
02:35:36,690 --> 02:35:40,650
further notice, as h Levine is a
reference to the United States

2607
02:35:40,680 --> 02:35:44,190
Assistant Secretary of Health
Rachel Levine. The attorney

2608
02:35:44,190 --> 02:35:48,150
claims that the emails confirm
that the CDC was opposed to the

2609
02:35:48,150 --> 02:35:51,390
NPT releasing the report and
that leadership at the top

2610
02:35:51,390 --> 02:35:53,910
levels of the Department of
Health and Human Services

2611
02:35:54,090 --> 02:35:56,850
intervened to stop the report
from being released.

2612
02:35:57,420 --> 02:35:58,320
Wow.

2613
02:35:59,760 --> 02:36:02,400
John C Dvorak: bombshell.
They're trying to kill us.

2614
02:36:02,790 --> 02:36:05,190
Adam Curry: Well, we always knew
that. I mean, the way I've

2615
02:36:05,190 --> 02:36:09,510
always heard the story is
fluoride in your water is a

2616
02:36:09,510 --> 02:36:14,010
runoff product from heavy
industry. Yeah, aluminum may be

2617
02:36:14,010 --> 02:36:18,600
one of them. In order to
hoodwink the people into into

2618
02:36:18,990 --> 02:36:22,260
putting it into their own water,
they say well, you know, it's

2619
02:36:22,260 --> 02:36:24,360
good for your teeth, it'll
protect your teeth.

2620
02:36:25,020 --> 02:36:26,940
John C Dvorak: Yeah, turns out
there's no evidence of any of

2621
02:36:26,940 --> 02:36:28,500
this. Do you know the

2622
02:36:28,620 --> 02:36:34,500
Adam Curry: whose waters heavily
fluoridated Austin Texas with

2623
02:36:34,500 --> 02:36:38,730
the price which explains why
they're so liberal Miss Hardaway

2624
02:36:39,780 --> 02:36:41,340
is fluoride in my

2625
02:36:42,240 --> 02:36:44,640
John C Dvorak: school Mimi
single handedly prevented the

2626
02:36:44,640 --> 02:36:51,120
fluoride did Florida Florida
desalination of the water supply

2627
02:36:51,120 --> 02:36:55,500
up in Port Angeles Area good for
her, tracked it down to us one

2628
02:36:55,500 --> 02:36:59,310
company nationwide does behind I
think they have a contract with

2629
02:36:59,310 --> 02:37:03,570
the some contract to get rid of
all this debt. It's hard to get

2630
02:37:03,570 --> 02:37:07,620
rid of fluoride. So you, but
it's not hard to get rid of it

2631
02:37:07,620 --> 02:37:10,620
if you can dump it in water
supplies and let it just dilute

2632
02:37:10,620 --> 02:37:14,340
it way down. And you know,
nobody will notice. Of course at

2633
02:37:14,340 --> 02:37:16,680
this point when companies Delta
Dental.

2634
02:37:17,580 --> 02:37:21,570
Adam Curry: Alex Jones has been
on this for decades, and I knew

2635
02:37:21,570 --> 02:37:27,810
that this was bad when I read
legacy of ashes which is about

2636
02:37:27,810 --> 02:37:31,950
the CIA includes my uncle Don,
and right there it said that

2637
02:37:31,950 --> 02:37:35,430
they would often the CIA would
put fluoride into the enemy

2638
02:37:35,430 --> 02:37:39,570
camps water supply to make them
nice and docile. So that they

2639
02:37:39,570 --> 02:37:44,220
could go in. Yes, that is in
that book, override the overrun

2640
02:37:44,220 --> 02:37:47,550
the camp. And when I asked Uncle
Don, is this all true? He said,

2641
02:37:47,550 --> 02:37:49,920
Yeah, that's pretty much the way
I remember it.

2642
02:37:58,530 --> 02:37:59,550
He upped the war on

2643
02:37:59,550 --> 02:38:02,250
Unknown: chicken continues with
a recent bird flu outbreak is

2644
02:38:02,250 --> 02:38:04,710
prompting health officials to
consider rolling out new

2645
02:38:04,710 --> 02:38:09,510
vaccinations for birds. Highly
contagious, bird flu continues

2646
02:38:09,510 --> 02:38:14,280
to mutate that disease has
devastated poultry populations.

2647
02:38:14,430 --> 02:38:18,270
And this most recent outbreak,
58 million birds have died an

2648
02:38:18,300 --> 02:38:20,940
all time high. The Biden
administration has not

2649
02:38:20,940 --> 02:38:23,730
officially approved these kinds
of vaccinations for birds yet,

2650
02:38:23,910 --> 02:38:26,880
but if it gets the green light
well, it actually won't be the

2651
02:38:26,880 --> 02:38:30,480
first time and many poultry are
already vaccinated for diseases

2652
02:38:30,480 --> 02:38:32,010
including bronchitis

2653
02:38:34,170 --> 02:38:36,330
Adam Curry: I didn't know that
we were vaccinating chickens

2654
02:38:36,330 --> 02:38:37,770
against bronchitis.

2655
02:38:44,010 --> 02:38:48,630
Now, Canada, gotta Blame Canada.
This is from Popular Mechanics.

2656
02:38:48,630 --> 02:38:52,620
I'm not sure where they
reporting on it. A hybrid breed

2657
02:38:52,650 --> 02:39:00,570
of super pigs. Super pigs, super
pigs. A mix of domestic pig and

2658
02:39:00,570 --> 02:39:04,710
wild boar is running wild in
Canada and are migrating south.

2659
02:39:06,210 --> 02:39:10,410
Highly intelligent and possibly
invincible super pigs are

2660
02:39:10,410 --> 02:39:17,040
invading America. You know, we
have a lot of wild wild hogs in

2661
02:39:17,040 --> 02:39:22,140
Texas. And they are they are a
real problem. They're super

2662
02:39:22,140 --> 02:39:25,710
problem everywhere they show up.
Super problem for the regular

2663
02:39:25,710 --> 02:39:27,570
ones. But how about the Super

2664
02:39:27,570 --> 02:39:28,530
Unknown: pigs?

2665
02:39:31,050 --> 02:39:36,900
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
we should kind of maybe get the

2666
02:39:36,900 --> 02:39:41,940
kids in high school, teach them
about gun safety and go out and

2667
02:39:42,570 --> 02:39:44,340
damn pigs, the super pigs,

2668
02:39:44,340 --> 02:39:45,960
Adam Curry: the Edom the super
pigs have

2669
02:39:45,960 --> 02:39:49,050
John C Dvorak: become I will say
that by the way. Baby wild boar

2670
02:39:49,890 --> 02:39:51,750
tastes unbelievably tasty.

2671
02:39:51,990 --> 02:39:53,640
Adam Curry: The Super pigs This
is why they're highly

2672
02:39:53,640 --> 02:39:56,280
intelligent super pigs have
become adept at fending off

2673
02:39:56,280 --> 02:40:02,340
recreational hunters sometimes
with entire sounders. That's a

2674
02:40:02,340 --> 02:40:06,540
term for a group of pigs turning
nocturnal. To avoid that that's

2675
02:40:06,570 --> 02:40:08,820
turning nocturnal to avoid the
hunting. Other times the

2676
02:40:08,820 --> 02:40:12,120
Sounders will disperse, making
them harder to locate or change

2677
02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:15,120
their patterns and retreat to
forest or wetlands. The best

2678
02:40:15,120 --> 02:40:17,880
strategy at reining in the Super
pigs has been employing the

2679
02:40:17,880 --> 02:40:22,980
Judas pig concept. Have you ever
heard of the Judas pig?

2680
02:40:23,790 --> 02:40:25,740
John C Dvorak: Is that where
they tag one pig? Yeah,

2681
02:40:25,770 --> 02:40:33,540
Adam Curry: exactly. The GPS
collar. Judas pig. Wow, well,

2682
02:40:33,540 --> 02:40:36,450
that's, that's gonna be
interesting. hunting at night.

2683
02:40:36,720 --> 02:40:37,650
That's a whole different

2684
02:40:37,650 --> 02:40:38,910
Unknown: challenge. Yeah,

2685
02:40:39,930 --> 02:40:41,040
Adam Curry: that's gonna be a
problem.

2686
02:40:43,980 --> 02:40:46,770
John C Dvorak: If they start
showing up, like raccoons, and

2687
02:40:46,770 --> 02:40:50,280
you got something going on. So I
have I found a clip. This is an

2688
02:40:50,280 --> 02:40:52,020
interesting clip. It's got
nothing to do with anything

2689
02:40:52,020 --> 02:40:55,410
we've talked about. It's about
the elections. Okay. And I

2690
02:40:55,410 --> 02:40:58,470
thought this was a good rundown
that we should all know, which

2691
02:40:58,470 --> 02:41:04,800
is that this is running, it says
running fo fo E. But this is

2692
02:41:04,800 --> 02:41:08,550
from from Brooks and Brooks. And
she'll and he actually explains

2693
02:41:08,550 --> 02:41:12,450
something nicely. Because it
keeps cropping up. Why don't

2694
02:41:12,450 --> 02:41:15,210
people when they start running
for president, they keep running

2695
02:41:15,210 --> 02:41:19,410
and running, when they should
bail out. But now it's not that

2696
02:41:19,410 --> 02:41:21,000
easy to do a listen to this.

2697
02:41:21,029 --> 02:41:23,609
Unknown: He said the bigger
thing is these Republicans have

2698
02:41:23,609 --> 02:41:25,919
to know when to get out. How
does that strike you?

2699
02:41:26,400 --> 02:41:28,980
Well, he's right. In theory,
it's it's a lot harder in

2700
02:41:28,980 --> 02:41:31,200
practice. Because if you're
running for president, you're

2701
02:41:31,200 --> 02:41:34,380
raising a ton of money. And so
you build up these war chests.

2702
02:41:34,530 --> 02:41:37,050
And suddenly a couple of weeks
go by, it doesn't look so good

2703
02:41:37,200 --> 02:41:39,870
at you want to look at your
donors and say I'm sorry, you

2704
02:41:39,870 --> 02:41:41,880
wasted your money, you're not
allowed to give him the money

2705
02:41:41,880 --> 02:41:45,900
back. So and you have to spend
it that election cycle. And so

2706
02:41:45,900 --> 02:41:48,900
it's actually hard to withdraw,
because you have this pot of

2707
02:41:48,900 --> 02:41:51,510
money there. And the instinct is
to say, Oh, just stay in, I've

2708
02:41:51,510 --> 02:41:54,630
got this money, I might as well
see what I got and spend it. And

2709
02:41:54,630 --> 02:41:57,840
so since it's structurally hard
to get out for this fundraising

2710
02:41:57,840 --> 02:42:00,330
reason I've described, a lot of
them are going to face the

2711
02:42:00,330 --> 02:42:04,050
temptation to stay in longer
than they should. And that will

2712
02:42:04,230 --> 02:42:06,360
that will split the field. I
think it's a real problem for

2713
02:42:06,360 --> 02:42:08,820
anybody who does not want Donald
Trump to be the nominee.

2714
02:42:10,680 --> 02:42:11,700
Adam Curry: I didn't know that.

2715
02:42:12,630 --> 02:42:14,520
John C Dvorak: I wasn't
unfamiliar with it myself.

2716
02:42:14,550 --> 02:42:17,580
Adam Curry: It's interesting,
you know, Bobby Kennedy is he's

2717
02:42:17,580 --> 02:42:20,520
hinting at Iran. Of course, you
can't actually say I'm running

2718
02:42:20,520 --> 02:42:22,950
because then there's all kinds
of changes with the money, I

2719
02:42:22,950 --> 02:42:23,550
guess. Oh,

2720
02:42:23,550 --> 02:42:26,370
John C Dvorak: yeah. You get
yourself in trouble right now

2721
02:42:26,370 --> 02:42:28,770
and only hint and there's
certain ways you can hint.

2722
02:42:29,280 --> 02:42:31,770
Adam Curry: Well, the hint is
out because they're looking for

2723
02:42:31,770 --> 02:42:37,530
money. I'm gonna see what was it
was this. I had it somewhere.

2724
02:42:38,670 --> 02:42:40,680
But it's like, oh, here it is
the

2725
02:42:41,730 --> 02:42:43,050
Unknown: what is the website?

2726
02:42:43,200 --> 02:42:47,850
Adam Curry: Team kennedy.com.
Join Robert F. Kennedy joined

2727
02:42:47,850 --> 02:42:52,440
Bobby's movement for a free and
fair America for all. You know,

2728
02:42:52,440 --> 02:42:54,690
the minute we said, Hey, Bobby
Kennedy, I might vote for that

2729
02:42:54,690 --> 02:43:00,690
guy. People like man, he's tied
to Big Pharma tied to DISH TV.

2730
02:43:03,660 --> 02:43:05,520
John C Dvorak: Those are the
same guys who quit the chat room

2731
02:43:05,520 --> 02:43:06,720
during the donations.

2732
02:43:06,720 --> 02:43:10,200
Adam Curry: Exactly. Well, then
another 1000 got DDoS out of

2733
02:43:10,200 --> 02:43:14,550
existence. Stupid trolls.
Someone does that on purpose

2734
02:43:14,550 --> 02:43:15,750
just to piss me off.

2735
02:43:16,980 --> 02:43:20,610
John C Dvorak: We have to sell.
They are successful. Yeah, that

2736
02:43:20,610 --> 02:43:26,430
worked. Worked. Well, the last
clip I've got for the day, okay,

2737
02:43:26,460 --> 02:43:30,600
is the least get to know this is
the reparations. We have a

2738
02:43:30,600 --> 02:43:33,270
situation in California where
we're, nobody else is doing it.

2739
02:43:33,510 --> 02:43:37,020
We've never were a slave state.
We're always in a neutral state.

2740
02:43:37,050 --> 02:43:39,900
But that's beside the point. I
love

2741
02:43:39,900 --> 02:43:41,370
Adam Curry: it. Yeah, you're
gonna you're gonna give

2742
02:43:41,370 --> 02:43:45,060
reparations we're gonna do a
$50,000

2743
02:43:45,060 --> 02:43:47,400
John C Dvorak: every black guy
in the state who qualifies? And

2744
02:43:47,400 --> 02:43:50,310
then again, making them
qualifies an issue because well,

2745
02:43:50,670 --> 02:43:54,030
some of them don't qualify, but
we were working on it. And we're

2746
02:43:54,030 --> 02:43:56,580
gonna give everybody everybody
by the way all the black

2747
02:43:56,580 --> 02:43:58,710
community the entire black
community is all for this.

2748
02:43:58,859 --> 02:44:02,069
Unknown: The California Task
Force studying reparations for

2749
02:44:02,069 --> 02:44:06,599
black residents wants to revive
a reconstruction error agency as

2750
02:44:06,599 --> 02:44:10,199
part of its first in the nation
statewide reparations plan

2751
02:44:11,100 --> 02:44:13,800
Adam Curry: 50,000 Seems a
little insulting

2752
02:44:16,080 --> 02:44:19,920
John C Dvorak: Well, that's just
one of the suggested amount some

2753
02:44:19,920 --> 02:44:21,900
people have suggested half a
million

2754
02:44:21,960 --> 02:44:24,660
Adam Curry: Yeah. President I
saw a 5 million I thought I

2755
02:44:24,660 --> 02:44:26,730
thought I thought 5 million
initially that could

2756
02:44:26,730 --> 02:44:29,490
John C Dvorak: have been in in
play. Yeah, the higher it goes

2757
02:44:29,490 --> 02:44:32,160
the less likely it's going to
happen. That's everyone's got to

2758
02:44:32,250 --> 02:44:37,650
have to deal with that. 50,000
to me, is a lot for someone who

2759
02:44:37,650 --> 02:44:38,760
didn't do jack shit.

2760
02:44:39,180 --> 02:44:42,060
Adam Curry: No, I I've talked
with Moe about this often by the

2761
02:44:42,060 --> 02:44:45,360
way he has that horrible flu so
didn't have a show this week.

2762
02:44:45,570 --> 02:44:50,700
He's down and out. And he says
the amount is well first of all,

2763
02:44:50,700 --> 02:44:55,890
he says you know, how can we can
do the was it the inflation

2764
02:44:55,890 --> 02:45:00,840
Reduction Act for one and a half
trillion? You He wants to T

2765
02:45:00,840 --> 02:45:04,560
word. He wants reparations for
all black Americans has to equal

2766
02:45:04,560 --> 02:45:08,370
up to a trillion but only if
there's atonement, it has to be

2767
02:45:08,430 --> 02:45:12,090
a trillion. And you have to say
you're sorry. And it went it

2768
02:45:12,090 --> 02:45:15,540
would be and he bases that on a
legal thing, which has some

2769
02:45:15,540 --> 02:45:20,640
validity. But this 50,000
Really? And then, and then what

2770
02:45:20,640 --> 02:45:23,100
happens then we have the spreads
to other states, and every

2771
02:45:23,100 --> 02:45:26,610
state's going to do that. And
who and this is California

2772
02:45:26,610 --> 02:45:28,020
money, or is it all?

2773
02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:31,680
John C Dvorak: It's gonna spread
to every state? Because nothing

2774
02:45:31,680 --> 02:45:33,120
is gonna happen, right?

2775
02:45:33,660 --> 02:45:37,470
Adam Curry: And unfortunately,
the 50 you here's your $50,000,

2776
02:45:37,500 --> 02:45:39,120
it's in Silicon Valley Bank.

2777
02:45:40,080 --> 02:45:41,850
Unknown: stock stock,

2778
02:45:42,120 --> 02:45:47,100
Adam Curry: it's better Silicon
Valley Bank stock. Goodness,

2779
02:45:47,700 --> 02:45:51,060
goodness gracious, I do have
this one clip something going on

2780
02:45:51,060 --> 02:45:54,540
in Canada. We've been tracking
this for quite a while beasts a

2781
02:45:54,540 --> 02:45:59,370
Bill C 18. And from what I
understand, and Bill C 18. The

2782
02:45:59,370 --> 02:46:05,910
idea is, it would force
companies who publish bits and

2783
02:46:05,910 --> 02:46:12,990
links of new stories to for
Canadian companies to pay

2784
02:46:13,800 --> 02:46:18,210
Canadian news organisations
money for the links they put up

2785
02:46:18,210 --> 02:46:20,880
and the Yeah, from what I
understand the well let's listen

2786
02:46:20,880 --> 02:46:22,650
to the clip. And the more we can
figure out what's going on

2787
02:46:22,680 --> 02:46:25,020
Unknown: Google is flexing his
digital muscles on some

2788
02:46:25,020 --> 02:46:27,960
Canadians and now Heritage
Committee MPs want them to

2789
02:46:28,020 --> 02:46:31,410
answer for it. The MPs have
summoned top executives to

2790
02:46:31,410 --> 02:46:35,070
testify on Monday after the tech
giant move to temporarily limit

2791
02:46:35,070 --> 02:46:39,360
news access for about 4% of its
Canadian users. It's just a

2792
02:46:39,360 --> 02:46:42,840
test. In the event that
parliament passes Bill C 18, the

2793
02:46:42,840 --> 02:46:46,530
online news act, it will compel
tech giants to compensate media

2794
02:46:46,530 --> 02:46:49,860
companies for republishing and
linking to their content on

2795
02:46:49,860 --> 02:46:53,310
their platforms. It's something
that some experts are opposed to

2796
02:46:53,310 --> 02:46:55,710
including my next guest,
Michael, guys. Thanks for

2797
02:46:55,710 --> 02:46:57,690
joining me. Oh, thanks

2798
02:46:57,690 --> 02:46:58,230
for having me.

2799
02:46:58,560 --> 02:47:01,800
So Google is throttling access
to Canadian news for some of its

2800
02:47:01,800 --> 02:47:05,340
users in response to this
legislation. If this bill is

2801
02:47:05,340 --> 02:47:08,280
passed in its current form, do
you think Canadian news will

2802
02:47:08,280 --> 02:47:10,110
just disappear from Google
entirely?

2803
02:47:11,610 --> 02:47:14,070
I think it's a real possibility,
if we're honest about and I

2804
02:47:14,070 --> 02:47:16,470
mean, all they've done, I'm not
sure that throttling is

2805
02:47:16,470 --> 02:47:18,960
necessarily the right word. I
mean, obviously, they've removed

2806
02:47:19,170 --> 02:47:23,610
the links to some Canadian to
news sources for about 4% of

2807
02:47:23,610 --> 02:47:26,550
their user base. But given how
popular they are, that still

2808
02:47:26,550 --> 02:47:30,120
affects quite a number of
people. But given the costs

2809
02:47:30,120 --> 02:47:32,790
associated with this
legislation, the government

2810
02:47:32,790 --> 02:47:36,300
envisioning that Google could be
required alongside Facebook to

2811
02:47:36,300 --> 02:47:41,430
pay 35% of the news expenditures
for every newsletter outlet in

2812
02:47:41,430 --> 02:47:44,850
the country just for linking to
their content. I don't think we

2813
02:47:44,850 --> 02:47:47,250
should be particularly surprised
that a company like Google would

2814
02:47:47,250 --> 02:47:49,950
say, Listen, if that's the
requirement, if you link you

2815
02:47:49,950 --> 02:47:53,040
have to engage in that kind of
payment or don't link, they're

2816
02:47:53,040 --> 02:47:55,470
going to at least look at the
prospect of not linking at all.

2817
02:47:56,640 --> 02:47:59,490
Adam Curry: Yeah, so they have
to pay 35% of the news

2818
02:47:59,490 --> 02:48:01,200
organizations cost.

2819
02:48:01,560 --> 02:48:05,940
John C Dvorak: Hey, welcome to
9090 Check the calendar. We went

2820
02:48:05,940 --> 02:48:07,470
through this in

2821
02:48:07,470 --> 02:48:09,390
Adam Curry: Canada or just in
America I remember in

2822
02:48:09,390 --> 02:48:11,910
John C Dvorak: America, Canada
around the world. The whole

2823
02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:15,750
thing about links you can't link
to my content. You're stealing

2824
02:48:15,750 --> 02:48:18,840
content. You're stealing photos.
Oh, deep

2825
02:48:18,840 --> 02:48:22,020
Adam Curry: linking is is bad is
killing the music industry? Or

2826
02:48:22,020 --> 02:48:24,990
whatever? No, that was home
taping. Yeah,

2827
02:48:25,590 --> 02:48:28,860
John C Dvorak: yeah. So this is
the this started with a frame

2828
02:48:28,980 --> 02:48:32,100
long last frame, which they used
at home.

2829
02:48:33,930 --> 02:48:36,990
Adam Curry: From your classic
right, we still use frames and

2830
02:48:36,990 --> 02:48:40,470
the blink tag here and there was
a blink tags gone only on the

2831
02:48:40,470 --> 02:48:41,310
dot h i think

2832
02:48:41,310 --> 02:48:43,740
John C Dvorak: the cat running
back and forth across the screen

2833
02:48:43,740 --> 02:48:44,640
is the best Oh no,

2834
02:48:44,640 --> 02:48:50,010
Adam Curry: it was a whack the
monkey the monkey punch the

2835
02:48:50,010 --> 02:48:52,890
monkey and whack the Mole.
That's what it was. I remember

2836
02:48:54,570 --> 02:48:57,060
John C Dvorak: that these guys
are idiots. This is the this is

2837
02:48:57,060 --> 02:49:02,160
telling you how stupid the media
is at the highest levels.

2838
02:49:02,430 --> 02:49:05,460
Adam Curry: Correct. And then
because the media benefits it's

2839
02:49:05,460 --> 02:49:08,250
not going to benefit the small
news organization is going to

2840
02:49:08,250 --> 02:49:10,350
benefit the big guys as it
always does

2841
02:49:10,500 --> 02:49:11,940
John C Dvorak: not going to
benefit anybody because you're

2842
02:49:11,940 --> 02:49:15,870
gonna get cut off and access
what Google's gonna do. No links

2843
02:49:15,870 --> 02:49:18,780
to you. And who carries you to
do

2844
02:49:18,900 --> 02:49:21,690
Adam Curry: who cares about
Google? It's like the like well

2845
02:49:21,690 --> 02:49:23,490
John C Dvorak: who cares about
anybody linking but they're

2846
02:49:23,490 --> 02:49:26,430
trying to nail everyone who
links so screw does anyone who

2847
02:49:26,430 --> 02:49:30,150
doesn't want to be linked below
robot tag in there don't link it

2848
02:49:30,150 --> 02:49:33,600
should be on there probably in
the in the code. Yeah.

2849
02:49:34,320 --> 02:49:37,200
Adam Curry: Yeah. Google is
going down, man. It's gonna take

2850
02:49:37,200 --> 02:49:40,860
a while but you know, people are
on Tik Tok. No one cares. No one

2851
02:49:40,860 --> 02:49:43,380
cares about Google. No one cares
about fate. Have you noticed

2852
02:49:43,380 --> 02:49:47,730
that meta is just no longer
discussed? I think they shut

2853
02:49:47,730 --> 02:49:50,400
that thing down. I think that
you're not going to hear about

2854
02:49:50,400 --> 02:49:52,740
metta and the metaverse at all.

2855
02:49:54,780 --> 02:49:57,480
John C Dvorak: It's well I if I
didn't have $1 already hanging

2856
02:49:57,480 --> 02:49:59,940
on the your wife

2857
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:02,220
Adam Curry: All right, well,
we'll go for the Oscars first

2858
02:50:02,220 --> 02:50:06,360
and then we'll see how we how we
fare later on. It's about

2859
02:50:06,360 --> 02:50:10,500
averages really, for me, just
got to average out $1 a year,

2860
02:50:10,860 --> 02:50:12,630
which is pretty much what we're
doing so far.

2861
02:50:14,250 --> 02:50:16,350
John C Dvorak: But on today's
show, today's show

2862
02:50:16,410 --> 02:50:19,830
Adam Curry: will support us
divorce.org/na. We appreciate

2863
02:50:19,830 --> 02:50:24,690
everyone who did support us. So
always, always helpful, always,

2864
02:50:24,690 --> 02:50:29,910
always appreciated. We have end
of show mixes only two, if you

2865
02:50:29,910 --> 02:50:32,730
don't hear your mixes because
they're long. If you do the

2866
02:50:32,730 --> 02:50:35,670
songs, that's great, but you
couldn't cut at least one verse

2867
02:50:35,700 --> 02:50:40,620
out. And now we got to deal with
that. Hey, citizen and Phantom

2868
02:50:40,620 --> 02:50:43,800
Bill both brought his
outstanding end of show mixes,

2869
02:50:44,040 --> 02:50:49,170
the kind that John loves, and
AppNexus no agenda stream.com If

2870
02:50:49,170 --> 02:50:52,170
you're still in the troll room
troll room.io behind the schemes

2871
02:50:52,170 --> 02:50:55,140
with blueberry and lavish coming
to you from the heart of the

2872
02:50:55,140 --> 02:50:57,570
Texas Hill Country FEMA Region
number six in the morning,

2873
02:50:57,570 --> 02:50:59,340
everybody. I'm Adam curry

2874
02:50:59,400 --> 02:51:01,920
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where as I look

2875
02:51:01,920 --> 02:51:06,990
out on the scene, it's gloomy,
but it's not wet. I'm John C.

2876
02:51:06,990 --> 02:51:07,620
Dvorak. We

2877
02:51:07,620 --> 02:51:11,670
Adam Curry: return on Thursday
right after Pi Day with another

2878
02:51:11,670 --> 02:51:16,530
episode of deconstruction tailor
made for you remember us at the

2879
02:51:16,530 --> 02:51:22,380
vortech.org/na Until then adios
mofos and such Anna Hui Hui

2880
02:51:35,040 --> 02:51:42,120
Unknown: Johnson gazing out of
his window wondering rowdy show

2881
02:51:42,120 --> 02:51:49,410
me excuse says he recovered down
the funny jams get them sad is

2882
02:51:49,410 --> 02:51:57,720
fat seems those times gone and
now it hurts him so much no

2883
02:51:57,720 --> 02:52:04,110
agenda has a little Mastodon
instance that the no agenda

2884
02:52:04,110 --> 02:52:14,640
listeners every day they post as
many memes as this really admins

2885
02:52:14,640 --> 02:52:22,980
have to crack down and cat
listens and may you know drop

2886
02:52:22,980 --> 02:52:36,240
off a show mixes like you used
to it means that you are

2887
02:52:36,240 --> 02:52:37,200
listening to

2888
02:52:43,200 --> 02:52:49,800
a user with broadcast obsession
is subscribing to this fable the

2889
02:52:49,800 --> 02:53:00,060
feed navigates his way to get it
setting to increase the rate of

2890
02:53:00,060 --> 02:53:16,110
audio when He sets it up to 2.5
times to maximize information is

2891
02:53:16,110 --> 02:53:22,320
Elvis fading and he doesn't know
why it's causing damage to his

2892
02:53:22,320 --> 02:53:24,480
personal relationships

2893
02:53:24,510 --> 02:53:25,170
yeah don't

2894
02:53:25,170 --> 02:53:28,710
hear me you know

2895
02:53:33,870 --> 02:53:37,950
like you used to do

2896
02:53:49,830 --> 02:53:52,110
Adam Curry: wasn't gonna bring
this up John was really absorbed

2897
02:53:52,110 --> 02:53:54,750
today he feels at the end of
show mixers are no goods they

2898
02:53:54,750 --> 02:53:58,680
suck. It's not anything the way
it's supposed to be. He songs

2899
02:53:58,680 --> 02:54:01,440
parodies are very hard to do a
lot of during lockdown, but you

2900
02:54:01,440 --> 02:54:03,420
just hate everything that
covered everything you hate all

2901
02:54:03,420 --> 02:54:03,930
it's horrible.

2902
02:54:03,960 --> 02:54:06,420
John C Dvorak: There's not one
mix in the entire collection.

2903
02:54:06,539 --> 02:54:08,219
Adam Curry: Of course many
controls you can also find,

2904
02:54:08,399 --> 02:54:12,089
reach or follow on Norwegian
social.com which I also will say

2905
02:54:12,119 --> 02:54:15,209
is getting a little rowdy.
People are a little unhinged.

2906
02:54:15,239 --> 02:54:17,819
I've used in an even bigger note
in the social.com or people just

2907
02:54:17,879 --> 02:54:20,879
hosting me all day long. Oh my
goodness. It costs a lot of

2908
02:54:20,939 --> 02:54:23,669
space. People don't care. You
guys are very untangle

2909
02:54:23,669 --> 02:54:27,479
ungrateful. Stop DMing me I do
not respond to DMS on Noah

2910
02:54:27,479 --> 02:54:28,109
social.com.

2911
02:54:28,140 --> 02:54:29,310
John C Dvorak: I just don't
notice them because they don't

2912
02:54:29,310 --> 02:54:32,100
have no lag. There's no flag. So
I click on an on accident. Boom.

2913
02:54:32,100 --> 02:54:34,980
There's a bunch of DNS and all
backed up. You

2914
02:54:35,010 --> 02:54:41,610
Unknown: know, drones aren't
taking and shoumik says like you

2915
02:54:41,610 --> 02:54:49,950
use too many means you.

2916
02:54:59,010 --> 02:55:04,590
John's complaining This domain
Adams trying to give us chain

2917
02:55:06,060 --> 02:55:12,600
COVID to more practical way to
eat in and Christ to tell me

2918
02:55:12,600 --> 02:55:13,170
that he's

2919
02:55:19,529 --> 02:55:20,549
still need

2920
02:55:27,690 --> 02:55:35,280
to go into toilet yours is to
think that haven't you heard

2921
02:55:35,640 --> 02:55:41,400
when debo with all that being
Christ you know it and he said

2922
02:55:43,830 --> 02:55:48,390
it can be a show me

2923
02:55:54,810 --> 02:55:59,640
I don't wants to keep your blood
because China wants to steal my

2924
02:56:01,650 --> 02:56:06,870
cream with my cash. I got the
rash and everybody brings it on

2925
02:56:06,870 --> 02:56:16,200
me Christ you know it can be
show me

2926
02:56:22,650 --> 02:56:25,110
John C Dvorak: all of the after
show

2927
02:56:26,190 --> 02:56:26,610
Adam Curry: okay

2928
02:56:28,980 --> 02:56:34,230
Unknown: so we talked about
locked down when we said the job

2929
02:56:34,230 --> 02:56:43,380
was to stay SATs have come in
you can cry skin no weight and

2930
02:56:43,380 --> 02:56:47,490
he said he can be

2931
02:57:11,100 --> 02:57:15,270
MOPO boruch.org/in a

2932
02:57:16,350 --> 02:57:18,390
John C Dvorak: really crazy
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