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Adam Curry John C Dvorak April 8
2021 this is your award winning

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game on nation media
assassination Episode 1336. This

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is no agenda. ghosting y'all and
broadcasting live from

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opportunity's own 33 here in the
frontier of Austin, Texas

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capital of the drone Star State
in the morning, everybody. I'm

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Adam Curry. And from Northern
Silicon Valley where it's

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business as usual for everyone
around here. I'm john C. Dvorak.

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Greg line buzzkill. Pass the
pina colada live to tape. This

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is our first vacation in I think
it's 15 months. Because we had

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Yeah, we had we had Christmas,
Christmas time off during

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Christmas? I don't think so. So
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didn't take any time off when we
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or maybe longer that way. I
don't want to complain or

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anything but no, I mean, we can
do it. But it's like, anyway,

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remember taking Thanksgiving or
Christmas off? We usually and I

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think we bragged about working
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the days they weren't like
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anything new right? Well,
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whenever I'm traveling or even
on vacations or my honeymoon, we

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still done the show. Yes. But
it's not that. Yeah, we really

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needed a little little break
just to unplug, and it might

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request a rare never done before
two shows. I don't think we've

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been around. Now I don't think
we've ever done two shows in a

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row that we haven't been here.
Maybe, maybe not. So all we're

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doing is just praying Joe Biden
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Even if he doesn't, I mean, it
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pent up demand for us.

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We don't have to jump back and
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emergency broadcast quick, john,
help us we don't know what to

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do. We had a bunch of members
that did happen to us a couple

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of times in the past. Yeah,
several times to do a show do a

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show because they just did this
in the Can't wait a couple of

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days for us to actually organize
information. No, What's the

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rush? Because that's what
everyone does. Now we jump on it

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and we just talk some crap. And
this is an outrage. Steven

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Crowder, got d platformed. Blah,
blah, blah, blah.

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That's all I hear all day. Hey,
so you worked. You worked. You

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worked hard on this together and
doing a show? I bet it did. So

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this is how long is this
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Wow. And it's it's all clips.
It's a clip show real clips. So

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it doesn't include us at all?
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gonna include some of our
commentary because there's a lot

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of good stuff that we say. But
then it as it develops,

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especially in the first half,
which you'll hear or right after

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this. It just sang by itself it
was the soloist I didn't really

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need to put us in it because it
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and so I didn't even try to find
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hour I said well this is working
too well I'm not gonna I don't

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need to put us in there now I'm
curious how you make extremely

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entertaining I'm curious how you
made it because I know that I

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gave you my my is my date
database which is date organized

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year month day a year month show
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in chronological order What did
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actually is kind of in
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everything but what I did is I
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every everything search engines
and everything yeah, it's quite

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good. And so I first I searched
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stuff I have had more recent
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it all cropped up and I had like
the fun was the first I think it

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was the first hour more than an
hour is just worth Global's are

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gonna say you just search for
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Oh, I'll bet then I had to deny
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hour or more out of climate
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I think I did a I did a couple
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think green new deal but it
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Hmm, interesting. And coral I
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for the coral expert that says
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mess at all. Oh, right. Yeah. In
fact, they they turn on some

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underwater speakers and
everything grew back. Someone

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thought I was doing a podcast
somewhere like Oh, that makes

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total sense. So it didn't all
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and roll. Now he didn't dice
thriving according to the

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expert, the number one world
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Reef, but that's but anyway this
other stuff in there. There's a

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lot of it's just fun to list
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contradictory information you
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notice. One is that the the
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sound nuts and hysterical. Okay,
yeah, nothing new there. And the

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people that say, well that's not
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everyone else sounds normal that
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that's questionable and, you
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into and this isn't true is is a
lie. They all sound normal. And

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then the other people sound
hysterical. It's just like,

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after two hours of listening to
this, you realize that one sides

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a little more probably on the
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How far back does this go? Does
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goes back to the first clips
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long way. Oh, no, I love it. I
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know if it's 10 years but it
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nine. I'm very excited. Well,
good. Well, let's start it off.

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Scientists have reported 2015
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by far, the experts pin the
record breaking heat on long

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term global warming caused by
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gases. 2015 record breaks the
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before and 2014. In response to
the findings, Gerald Mele, a

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scientist at the National Center
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quote, the whole system is
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What is it? Maybe it's me, I
don't know. And climate change,

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scientists are taking their
global warming threats to a

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whole new level Outer Space
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actually laid out a number of
scenarios as to why aliens may

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someday attack Earth and one of
them is because humans are

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spewing way too much carbon
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They speculate that
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angered by greenhouse gases.
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enslave us or potentially eat
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have remained silent on these
new theories. So I wonder if the

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faculty and students there at
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works of Edmond north. It

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was reported today that this
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human history, we have reached
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415 parts per million. This has
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human history. In fact,
meteorologist Eric hole thoughts

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and journalists said simply
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development. We do not know a
planet like this. The last time

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our planet hit for 15. Within
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were 90 feet higher. bacteria
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before roamed the earth.

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Across the globe. The weather
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bone numbing record cold in the
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and Australia 120 degrees and
hotter this month. What that

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really means is that fires will
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fast moving and yo yo weather
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the US a 50 degree rebound in
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believe when you're frozen like
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arctic blast is in fact further
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response to President Trump's
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at NOAA tweeting winter storms
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isn't happening. Here's why. at
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the melting sea ice and ocean
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walls of the Jetstream or polar
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in places that has allowed
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south into the Midwest. Not only
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impacting the planet, but it's
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it's kicking in and the parts of
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sensitive, in particular Arctic
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So let's leave them something to
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them go home and say Mr. Soros
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can do simply one,

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work on a better world order,
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resolve problems that confront
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And I think I think that dealing
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a lot of investment. You see,
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economy, the motor of the world
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was consumption by the American
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more than his been saving,
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And he's been producing. So that
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finished, it's run out of

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can't continue. You need a new
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of global warming requires big
investment. And that could be

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the motor of the vertical anami
in the years to come to remember

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in building infrastructure,
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instead of consuming

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building electricity grid and
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houses, adjusting your
lifestyle, where energy is, it's

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got to cost more, until you
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it will be painful, but at least
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And there was a Gallup poll in
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that said, despite

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rising temperatures, and all of
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having the percentage of
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about global warming has been
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to 34%. Today, what is it about
human nature that wants to

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believe the worst can happen? i?
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Well, this was also the day that
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the last extreme weather events
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change caused by pollution.
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California wildfires, and
cyclones in Hawaii. The study

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found that in 2014, extreme heat
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South Korea were made worse by
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things such as car emissions,
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The reports study 28 extreme
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last year, 14 of those including
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and New Zealand were found to be
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change. But the impact of human
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report says this is the fourth
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weather, extreme human a weather
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partially to blame for extreme
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and wildfires. And over those
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the extreme weather events
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linked to human caused climate
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trying to repeal the law of
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gaining weight, right? I didn't
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equals mc squared because it's
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political philosophies. And
these are the emergent

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scientific truths. So I'm
disappointed when I look around

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and I see people cherry picking
the consensus of observation and

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experiment that has emerged in
science. That is the anatomy of

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a scientific truth. By the way,
there are always some results

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that short dangle and linger
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truth is when multiple research
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people who would typically be in
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from different branches of
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not to confirm Oh, yeah, that's
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There's the idea behind the
whole, like, bizarre crypto

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conspiracy theory about global
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like working in concert, when in
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the opposite of the thing just
to get to the nitty gritty, do

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you believe that it's been
proven that co2 is the primary

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control knob for climate? Do you
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that that measuring with
precision, human activity on the

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climate is something very
challenging to do. And there's

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tremendous disagreement about
the the degree of impact that so

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So no, I would not agree that
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the to the global warming that
we see. Okay, all right. We

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don't know that yet. As far as
we need to, we need to continue

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the debate and continue to
review and analysis. It's, it's

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it's a I agree. When I hear the
science is settled, it's like I

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never heard that. Science
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it was that's that's the whole
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keep asking questions. You keep
asking questions, but I don't

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want to be called a denier. So,
you know, scares me as if it's a

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terrible thing to be called.
Anyway, administrator Pruitt. I

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know you don't want to call that
here. Thanks for being with us

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this morning. Appreciate?

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Well, we're gonna bring in our
science guy, Bill Nye and you

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know, talk about something else
that's falling from the sky. And

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that is an asteroid. Oh,

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what

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what's coming our way? Is this
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warming? Or is this just some
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Or you're present? you calling
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meant to put me down. I'm a
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And I want to make it darn
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scientist. I am. He's the CEO of
the Weather Channel. Now. I was

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the founder of The Weather
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I'm glad you did because I am
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Now, hold on a minute, I'm not
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strong position on global
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consensus. Well, there is no
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vote, scientists about facts.
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cold facts, there's no question
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happening. There is no
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Warming now, there hasn't been
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reason to expect any in the
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baloney. And yes, it is has it
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of the Democratic Party and part
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it's become political instead of
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on my side, I don't think we're
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the topic right here. What I do
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allow it to happen on CNN, but
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your feet, your viewers, Hello,
everybody. What I do no global

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warming. What I do wonder is
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when you see NASA, when you see
other institutions say that 97%

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of climate scientists agree, do
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I What I don't understand is how
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to you. The government puts out
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dollars directly for climate
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gives that money to scientists,
who will produce scientific

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results that support the global
warming hypothesis of the

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Democrat Party position. So they
don't have any choice. If you're

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going to get the money, you've
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Therefore 97% of the scientific
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warming, why? Because those are
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And that's where the money is.
It's real simple. But that

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doesn't mean it's right. That
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makes it button paid for the
money goes in circles. So I like

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to thank you. And I'm trying to
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and I'm actually, I mean, it
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I'm proud of having done the
book about global warming.

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I knew everybody was gonna be
against me. And I thought, This

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is what I believe. And I'm
sorry. And I said it. And I did

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it. And I've taken just flack
for it. But you know, it is what

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I believe. And because of you,
you went into

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rough seas, very rough seas, and
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and unfair and mean, well, what
was nasty mean? Oh, Charlie,

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this is I mean, you got to look
at what people say. For example,

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when I started talking about
genetics, people said, Well, you

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know, you might get some
criticism for this. Well, I

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haven't got any criticism for
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know, that criticism is, but

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I've had the experience of
having had books in print for 40

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years. So I can go back and look
at the stand that I took in

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favor of abortion when I was a
medical student in Boston in

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1967, six years before Roe v.
Wade, and I can look at that and

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go was I right or not? And I
think what I was right. And I'm

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imagining when I wrote this, but
when I wrote the state of fear,

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I was imagining what's it going
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I think I want to come out just
fine. So what does this have to

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do with the global warming?
Because global warming is a an

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anomaly.

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Based on hyped up by this
generation, for something to

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bitch about? We've had it we had
a 55,000 years ago, we had a

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300,000 years ago. But to blame
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not accelerated by humans?
100,000,000th of a percent? Who

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cares? So this is just a scam
and a sham. And all I'm jealous

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of vice president What's his
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the the key thing that we need
to get out there is that there's

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a lot of things about climate
change, we still don't know. We

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spent a lot of time in the last
1520 years focusing on the

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extinction of big charismatic
wildlife. And we've thought a

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little bit about how that might
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direct impacts of climate change
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well studied. So our our
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does this global survey and
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well, how good or bad could
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and it turns out that parasites
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species do. A handful do a
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climate. And the vast majority
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lose a lot of habitat, they lose
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extinction rates. So I think one
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parasites is that we have
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important roles in ecosystems,
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parasites are a huge part of
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They can be the majority of
biomass in an ecosystem. They

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can be 80% of the links in a
food web. They control wildlife

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populations, they keep
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predators do. And just like
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century when we were eradicating
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parasites are obviously a hard
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this important regulatory role.
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in a changing climate is, with
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rates, the loss of that
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opportunities for new patterns
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that are genuinely concerning.
So what he did was, he took the

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modern instrumental temperature
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end of the tree. Right, it

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sounds like you're saying

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he cherry picked a particular
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data that he wanted for the
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then use the latest temperature
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this this huge spike the blade?
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is, when you look at that blade,
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temperature that he has is the
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the accuracy of it is plus or
minus 33%. Okay, so how did this

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become the iconic graph that
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has driven so much of the
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because because these people
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at the United Nations
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Climate Change, and that their
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were causing global warming and
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they created the data that
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the hockey stick showed up until
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appeared in the 1880s. The
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slightly and was almost level
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there it is. That's proof that
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whole objective of everything
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A Dutch court ruled today that
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greenhouse gas emissions to
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reductions of at least 25% below
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environmental activists said the
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for similar action in other
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The White House defended the
president today against a world

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of opposition to his decision to
withdraw from the Paris Climate

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accord. The deal signed by
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them to voluntarily reduce
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warming. The president's chief
defender heads the agency whose

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mission is in its title
environmental protection. Ship

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read begins our coverage. The
President made a very courageous

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decision yesterday in the AF
America, EPA chief Scott Pruitt,

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a leading voice and convincing
President Trump to get out of

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the Paris Climate accord today
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condemnation. We have nothing to
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country. Other top White House
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making clear the President was
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but on jobs putting the American
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first because he

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promised to protect American
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workers.

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It's a position that appears to
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A CBS News poll found that when
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important problem for the
government this year 13%

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volunteered that it's the
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the environment and global
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electroplate restaurant chain is
warning its investors about the

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risks of global warming. In its
annual report. The company says

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climate change might eventually
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ingredients such as avocados,
it's added to Livermore National

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Lab prediction that hotter
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drop in California avocado
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decades. The company says that
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prices and forced to take items
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the International Energy Agency
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gas emissions will drop a record
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vehicular traffic and oil use
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globe due to the corona virus
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emissions may soar again unless
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energy. This comes as a new
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Giga tons of ice have melted in
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the last 16 years producing
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Michigan shoe on this before
it's gone. In news that's not so

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sweet. Business Insider reports
there's a chocolate shortage and

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experts say it's on track to
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What on earth can we do about it
called Mars the candy company

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that is Mars incorporated is
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University of California
Berkeley to develop cacao plants

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that won't wilt. In the simplest
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conditions are killing cow
plants. Thankfully brainiacs at

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UC Berkeley developed gene
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scientists in the Candy Company
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important because over half of
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from two countries in West
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International Business Times,
but in a few decades, these

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areas won't be suitable for the
plants. If all goes well instead

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of relocating them uphill in an
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plants won't rot or will where
they are, and we get to enjoy

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more chocolate. So thank you you
see Berkeley Mars in the gene

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editing tool, you could call
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what I did there?

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Millions of people have taken
part in protests as part of

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global action against climate
change. Demonstrations have been

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held in around 150 countries, as
calls grow for governments to

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take a stronger lead in tackling
the crisis. Now I'm joined by

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skies climate change
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Peter, who's in New York, where
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will be held on Monday, Hannah,
what has prompted this worldwide

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day of action? Well, it's been
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inspired by Friday's for future,

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which was really started by
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the young girl from Stockholm
has become a kind of global

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icon, a person who represents
the voices of millions and

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millions of schoolchildren who
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is striking from school on
Fridays. Every few months or so

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there is a global school strike
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been growing. This is
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date, we've got 150 different
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strikes across the world. We're
looking at potentially millions

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of people on the streets today
in what could be one of the

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largest climate protests in
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point, for it not to be just
schoolchildren, demanding action

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and change on a defining issue
of our time, but to get adults

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to join and stand beside them. A
new study shows the number of

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people who could be displaced by
sea level rise this century due

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to global warming is much higher
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more than 13 million people at
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Florida. Those numbers are about
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estimates for displacement.
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findings.

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I think there are certain
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that can come from stem from
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This is Jim Hanson at Jim
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back in 1988,

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he was asked by a reporter

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How do you see things in 40
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the highway down here, the
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office, not going to be there
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right now we've gone

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25 years into the 40 years,
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rise, there are 10 feet to go
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You take a look at the SEC. This
is Jim Hanson slide.

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Where he decided realizing that
sea level was not rising. He

445
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:57,450
said it's really going to be
exponential. So by the mid

446
00:27:57,450 --> 00:27:59,940
century really isn't going to
rise at all, he won't even be

447
00:27:59,940 --> 00:28:03,360
alive here, neither ally. And
yet, we're going to get four,

448
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:08,910
four meters of rise. Next is
meters now feet in the last 20

449
00:28:08,910 --> 00:28:09,750
years of the century.

450
00:28:11,070 --> 00:28:13,920
Don't hold your breath on this
one either. That's right, Judy,

451
00:28:13,950 --> 00:28:19,080
was the hottest June on record
going back 139 years, According

452
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,740
to NASA. And today, halfway into
July, the National Weather

453
00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:25,950
Service forecasts potentially
deadly temperatures throughout

454
00:28:25,950 --> 00:28:29,820
this weekend across much of the
United States. This week, a

455
00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:33,240
study by the Union of Concerned
Scientists warn that the number

456
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,410
of extreme heat days could more
than double by mid century, just

457
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,190
30 years away, if we don't
change how much of those heat

458
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:45,180
trapping gases we emit. For more
on where we are and where we

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00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:48,240
might be going. I'm joined by
austrade called us. She's a

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00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,480
senior climate scientist at the
Union of Concerned Scientists.

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00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:52,170
Welcome.

462
00:28:52,290 --> 00:28:52,980
Thank you.

463
00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:57,390
The skeptics are going to say,
look, it's summertime, of course

464
00:28:57,390 --> 00:29:03,240
it's hot. What can you say? What
does the science say about this

465
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,300
particular kind of a heatwave
over this much of the US and how

466
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:07,680
it relates to climate change?

467
00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:12,480
Well, this particular heatwave
is due to a meteorological

468
00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:15,990
phenomena that happens in the
atmosphere. So this can happen

469
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:20,850
independently of climate change.
However, this heat dome that's

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00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,250
leading to this heatwave is
trapping warmer air because as

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00:29:26,250 --> 00:29:30,690
we know, the last 18 years all
the years in this century have

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00:29:30,690 --> 00:29:33,870
been record breaking years in
terms of warming, so the

473
00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:37,230
thermometer is going up,
temperatures are going up. So

474
00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:40,230
the heat waves are likely going
up also,

475
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:42,450
when ocean level rises.

476
00:29:43,530 --> 00:29:46,440
Thank you for asking that
question. I have the answer that

477
00:29:47,310 --> 00:29:48,240
I have the answer

478
00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:52,080
the question? Yeah. Okay.

479
00:29:52,140 --> 00:29:56,370
So the first time we changing
the gas now you're full

480
00:29:56,370 --> 00:29:59,970
of shit. Sit down. I'm gonna
answer you. I'm gonna shut up.

481
00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:01,890
Shut up and sit down.

482
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,230
No way. Sit down. No, I gotta
finish by Chris. You I'm gonna

483
00:30:07,230 --> 00:30:11,640
answer global warming. My finish
the question, answer is changing

484
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,870
on earth, and it's changing to
co2. What do you people with the

485
00:30:15,870 --> 00:30:19,230
money? What are you doing about
the speaker? tell you right now?

486
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:25,440
No, I've got children. I've got
2123 year old children. And

487
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,470
what's the future with you
people with money?

488
00:30:28,650 --> 00:30:33,480
You talk about money all the
time. Okay, sit down, please sit

489
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,630
down, please. In the front row,
excuse me, in the front row,

490
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:38,970
please sit down. Okay, you've
asked you a question. Thank you

491
00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:43,950
very much. Okay. And 2011, my
wife and I were in Antarctica,

492
00:30:44,340 --> 00:30:47,580
renewing our vows. For those of
you that don't know, an Arctic

493
00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:52,680
is on a mountaintop. And there
is a $500 million facility,

494
00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:57,750
scientific facility there. And
the scientists came to give us

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00:30:57,750 --> 00:31:03,330
presentations about global
warming. And they had cores of

496
00:31:03,330 --> 00:31:06,330
ice that they had drilled, they
drove four or 5000 cores, and

497
00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:09,240
they only brought 15 or 20. So
they're going through the second

498
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,830
or third core. And they said a
275,000 years ago, this was the

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00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:20,490
temperature level. And then
55,000 years ago, the world was

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00:31:20,490 --> 00:31:25,920
two degrees warmer Celsius than
it is today. This is 2011.

501
00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:30,630
And he said, and I said, Well,
you mean the whole world says

502
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:35,310
yes. And the polls are only
benchmarks. And I said, Well,

503
00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:40,170
what about the things that the
young woman alluded to? Okay.

504
00:31:40,410 --> 00:31:45,120
And he said, it's all cyclical.
And although the gas may have

505
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,580
exacerbated in the cosmos of
time, it's not a fart in the

506
00:31:50,580 --> 00:31:56,820
wind. In the cosmos of time of
the 13 point 8 billion years

507
00:31:56,940 --> 00:31:59,580
that we've been on this
miserable planet, it's not a

508
00:31:59,580 --> 00:32:03,210
fart in the wind. Now my direct
answer to your question, if that

509
00:32:03,210 --> 00:32:06,120
were really true, would you
believe and let's just for a

510
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,470
moment, say that it is true.
That means that the best

511
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:14,760
scenario visa v global warming
is about 10 feet raise in water,

512
00:32:14,790 --> 00:32:17,730
that's the best scenario over
the next 4050 years. That's the

513
00:32:17,730 --> 00:32:22,650
best scenario. If the water on
the planet is going around, rise

514
00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:27,240
up 10 feet, that means the
southern part of the United

515
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,850
States has gone. England has
gone most of Europe has gone and

516
00:32:32,850 --> 00:32:37,980
I can go most of Central America
has gone. Okay? If that's the

517
00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:41,400
case, let's just take Florida
for example, which is one of the

518
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,970
fastest going condominium
beachfront condominiums on the

519
00:32:44,970 --> 00:32:49,950
planet. In the perspectives when
you invest, there should be in

520
00:32:49,950 --> 00:32:54,420
the footnotes. If global warming
is for real, they will put it

521
00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:59,040
that way. Global warming happens
and water rises 10 feet, this

522
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,330
investment you made is

523
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,660
now one single investment
perspectives written since 2000.

524
00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:13,080
This century has alluded to
global warming. Now one

525
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:17,670
motherfucker, if it were really
true, the bench wouldn't invest.

526
00:33:17,730 --> 00:33:22,380
The banks wouldn't finance now
one motherfucking. condominium

527
00:33:23,070 --> 00:33:27,420
so the people that have the
money, and I'm jealous of the

528
00:33:27,420 --> 00:33:30,840
Vice President Gore, which
Shaolin I wrote in a plane from

529
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,080
South America with fears of I am
jealous, he came up with a scam

530
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,740
before I did, because the
financial institutions, the

531
00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:43,950
banks of this world, no, it's
not gonna happen. Otherwise, you

532
00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:48,930
couldn't get a goddamn loan in
London. You know those 3040 year

533
00:33:48,930 --> 00:33:53,460
mortgages. The war will be over
by then. Is Barclays Bank going

534
00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:57,210
to give you a motherfucking loan
with the greatest respect bam,

535
00:33:57,330 --> 00:34:00,600
it's the greatest fraud that's
been perpetrated on mankind this

536
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,200
century.

537
00:34:01,860 --> 00:34:05,130
From heat waves to back to back
hurricanes. One San Jose State

538
00:34:05,130 --> 00:34:09,450
professor says get used to it
and may become our new normal.

539
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:12,330
Tonight she told capex wise
Maria Medina, it is all

540
00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:14,820
connected to climate change.

541
00:34:17,339 --> 00:34:21,269
Back to Back hurricanes, Irma,
Jose, Katia and Harvey which

542
00:34:21,269 --> 00:34:23,549
devastated parts of Texas, it's
gonna

543
00:34:23,550 --> 00:34:26,670
be a 500 year flood or 1000
years. It's ridiculous.

544
00:34:26,939 --> 00:34:30,299
are all signs of what San Jose
State meteorology professors

545
00:34:30,299 --> 00:34:33,809
like Alison Bridger, there is
the hurricane you can see the I

546
00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:37,559
really well have taught students
for years. The oceans are

547
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:40,529
warming up just as the
atmosphere is warming up. She

548
00:34:40,529 --> 00:34:44,099
says recent weather events
across our country are proof of

549
00:34:44,099 --> 00:34:48,149
global warming. And now she says
it's catching up to us. We've

550
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:51,089
been teaching about this stuff
for over 20 years and we're

551
00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:54,059
still not doing anything about
it. Another piece of evidence

552
00:34:54,059 --> 00:34:57,059
that climate change is happening
According to Professor Bridger

553
00:34:57,269 --> 00:35:01,679
our own record breaking heatwave
over the week. And so hot it

554
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:05,399
even caused equipment problems
and delays for Bart. It's not

555
00:35:05,399 --> 00:35:08,759
like we broke the record by a
teeny bit. We broke the record

556
00:35:09,179 --> 00:35:13,919
by a lot. So the question is, is
this the new norm? I would tend

557
00:35:13,919 --> 00:35:17,309
to think so. So what exactly
does that mean? The professor

558
00:35:17,309 --> 00:35:21,419
says climate change means more
and longer heat waves or cold

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00:35:21,419 --> 00:35:24,899
weather, droughts and even
extreme rain events like

560
00:35:24,899 --> 00:35:31,409
hurricanes, Harvey was probably
able to grow strong because of

561
00:35:31,409 --> 00:35:35,219
the super warm temperatures in
the ocean in the Gulf of Mexico.

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00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,230
Global concentrations of carbon
dioxide have reached levels not

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00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:43,890
seen for 2 million years. The
National Oceanic and Atmospheric

564
00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:46,890
Administration said today, the
monthly average crossed that

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00:35:46,890 --> 00:35:50,280
line in March. It also said
concentrations of heat trapping

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00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,830
gas are rising at a record pace.

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00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:56,250
In climate news. A major new
study published in the journal

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00:35:56,250 --> 00:36:00,990
Science finds the world's oceans
are absorbing heat at a far

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00:36:00,990 --> 00:36:04,230
faster rate than previously
predicted of finding with

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00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:07,530
troubling implications for the
future of life on Earth. The

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00:36:07,530 --> 00:36:10,890
study found greenhouse gas
emissions are warming the oceans

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00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:15,630
40% faster than even the dire
predictions made by the UN's top

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00:36:15,630 --> 00:36:19,260
climate scientists five years
ago. The authors write quote,

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00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,730
this warming has contributed to
increases in rainfall intensity,

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00:36:23,730 --> 00:36:26,640
rising sea levels the
destruction of coral reefs,

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00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:31,230
declining ocean oxygen levels
and declines in ice sheets

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00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:35,670
glaciers and ice caps and the
polar regions. Across Europe a

578
00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:38,790
cold wave kept much of the
continent in the Deep Freeze

579
00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:43,170
today. In Paris layers of snow
covered much of the city,

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00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:47,490
disrupting travel in sub zero
weather. And off the Normandy

581
00:36:47,490 --> 00:36:51,060
code. The famed tidal Island
multi family shell was

582
00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:54,240
surrounded by snow and ice are
rarity.

583
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:58,800
Boston has finally set a dubious
new record most snow and a

584
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,920
single winter. The city got
nearly three more inches on

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00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,510
Sunday pushing the seasonal
total to 108.6 inches. That's

586
00:37:06,510 --> 00:37:10,230
more than nine feet of snow and
the most since Boston began

587
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:12,690
keeping records in 1872.

588
00:37:13,350 --> 00:37:17,640
This snow had many and taho
today saying so much for summer.

589
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,180
The National Weather Service
said up to five inches is

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00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:23,730
expected in the higher
elevations of the Northern

591
00:37:23,730 --> 00:37:28,200
Sierra. Here's the view from our
KPI x five Sierra camp. These

592
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,590
conditions force the weather
service to issue an advisory

593
00:37:31,590 --> 00:37:35,070
through tomorrow. Warning
drivers to be ready for winter

594
00:37:35,070 --> 00:37:36,240
driving conditions

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00:37:36,270 --> 00:37:37,050
in June.

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00:37:37,230 --> 00:37:40,710
It's the biggest warning from
the science community yet a call

597
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:45,990
for action. The IPCC report is
clear, urgent and unprecedented

598
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:49,050
changes are needed to keep
global temperatures from rising

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00:37:49,050 --> 00:37:54,060
to unbearable levels. Limiting
warming to 1.5 degrees is not

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00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,620
impossible, but will require
unprecedented transitions in all

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00:37:58,620 --> 00:38:02,310
aspects of society. There are
clear benefits to keep warming

602
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:07,560
to 1.5 degrees Celsius compared
to two degrees or higher, every

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00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:13,170
bit of warming matters. The 2015
Paris Agreement aimed at keeping

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00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:16,440
a global temperature rise this
century well below two degrees

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00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,820
Celsius above pre industrial
levels. But the IPCC is new

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00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:24,180
report shows that the effects of
global warming would already be

607
00:38:24,180 --> 00:38:30,150
disastrous with a 1.5 degree
increase 1.5 degrees would cause

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00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:35,070
a rise in global water levels of
about 48 centimeters 56

609
00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:38,910
centimeters if temperatures were
to rise to degrees, the impact

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00:38:38,910 --> 00:38:42,090
on the environment would be even
more important. a rise in two

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00:38:42,090 --> 00:38:45,870
degrees would cause the
extinction of 18% of all insects

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00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:51,420
16% of all plants and 8% of all
vertebrates, not to mention the

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00:38:51,420 --> 00:38:56,100
effect on human populations,
limiting global warming to 1.5

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00:38:56,130 --> 00:39:00,840
compared to two degrees would
reduce the number of people

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00:39:01,110 --> 00:39:06,960
exposed to climate related risks
and susceptible to poverty by up

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00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:13,710
to several 100 millions by 2050.
Limiting global warming to 1.5

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00:39:13,710 --> 00:39:18,150
degrees Celsius comes with a
hefty price tag, some 2.1

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00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:22,350
trillion euros would have to be
invested every year for 25

619
00:39:22,350 --> 00:39:27,330
years. For example, you know if
you if you tell people that okay

620
00:39:28,830 --> 00:39:32,400
85 years down the road, you know
13 million people will be

621
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,200
affected if we take the most
extreme projection which is 1.8

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00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,210
meter sea level rise by 2100.
But I think we need to take the

623
00:39:42,210 --> 00:39:47,910
study forward by doing another
study of what is the impact of

624
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:51,900
sea level rise right now. In
terms of you know, frequent

625
00:39:51,930 --> 00:39:52,830
coastal flooding,

626
00:39:52,860 --> 00:39:56,010
global warming is changing
horror movies and it's not

627
00:39:56,010 --> 00:40:00,000
likely to stop anytime soon.
Hello, I'm Jenna. I haven't met

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00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,220
master's degree in media and
culture and I've spent years

629
00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:05,580
studying horror media and video
game cultures and living on this

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00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:09,660
planet three things I love to
do, which is why I like many are

631
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:12,900
concerned about the increasingly
irreversible damage we're doing

632
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:16,710
to the planet. What does that
have to do with horror? Well,

633
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:19,500
we're seeing the growth of an
entirely new sub genre of

634
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:23,280
horror, which isn't necessarily
unusual genres are created and

635
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,710
abandoned all the time in
connection with societal

636
00:40:25,710 --> 00:40:29,790
changes, like in the mid 20th
century, when every TV show and

637
00:40:29,790 --> 00:40:33,480
movie was a Western, or last
year when every movie was a

638
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,530
superhero film. Right now we're
seeing the emergence of eco

639
00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:41,640
horror stories in which the
planet itself is the monster

640
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:45,900
is global warming causing goats
to shrink. That's what

641
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:48,660
researchers from the UK Durham
University are claiming.

642
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:52,350
Researchers say smaller goats
are evidence that global warming

643
00:40:52,350 --> 00:40:55,920
is impacting animal size. Durham
researchers studied the body

644
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,610
size of Alpine shammy mountain
goats over three decades, and

645
00:40:59,610 --> 00:41:03,600
found that young shammies today
weigh 25% less than their peers

646
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,010
did in the 1980s. Researchers
linked shrinking body sizes to

647
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,480
increasing temperatures.

648
00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:14,340
So a jeweler in Wilmington,
North Carolina took a pretty big

649
00:41:14,340 --> 00:41:19,140
gamble, but it was his customers
who won big, the store promised

650
00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:23,130
to refund everything customers
bought if it snowed more than

651
00:41:23,130 --> 00:41:26,880
three inches in Asheville on
Christmas Day. Well, it snowed

652
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,970
more than three inches, in fact,
more than six inches. And that

653
00:41:29,970 --> 00:41:32,820
really made Christmas special
for at least one family. It is a

654
00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:33,330
gamble. And

655
00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:36,360
luckily it worked out for us,
it's only gonna be about $150.

656
00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:43,020
But with my family to $550 goes
a long way. So getting $150 back

657
00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:43,740
can be really nice.

658
00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:49,140
Well, that store sold half a
million dollars in jewelry

659
00:41:49,170 --> 00:41:53,610
during the promotion. The most
expensive item was a $12,000

660
00:41:53,610 --> 00:41:56,550
engagement ring, the couple
plans to use that refund to pay

661
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:57,120
for the wedding

662
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,500
on the on the issue of climate
change. I believe the climate

663
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:05,880
changes, I believe in variations
in the in the climate throughout

664
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,540
history. And that's documented.
Yes, that's not the controvert

665
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:13,470
The facts are these, the facts
are these and this is by the

666
00:42:13,470 --> 00:42:20,310
National Oceanographic agency,
that from 1975 until about 2000.

667
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,710
The global mean surface
temperature increased by about a

668
00:42:25,710 --> 00:42:30,120
half a degree centigrade since
2000. It has not increased at

669
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,350
all bullshit.

670
00:42:34,770 --> 00:42:38,400
Government. But let's assume for
a moment, there's no climate

671
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,190
change. Why isn't it the
religious God fearing thing to

672
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:44,280
do to protect our Earth under
any circumstances? Why is it?

673
00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:46,650
Why should it Why can't?

674
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,890
That's a strong man. Everybody
agrees that we should be good

675
00:42:52,890 --> 00:42:55,950
good stewards of God's creation.
Everybody agrees on that we're

676
00:42:55,950 --> 00:42:59,970
all for cleaner reducing carbon
emissions. The problem is the

677
00:42:59,970 --> 00:43:04,380
unintended consequences. Let me
just give you one example. You

678
00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:07,140
probably supported when you were
in Congress, certainly the Bush

679
00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:11,280
administration did an ethanol
mandate that would say that 10%

680
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,730
of the gasoline when you went to
the pump, would be ethanol.

681
00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:18,600
Okay, for purposes of lowering
carbon emissions. What people

682
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,890
didn't calculate is a third of
the US corn crop got diverted to

683
00:43:22,890 --> 00:43:27,540
gasoline. What happened? relief
agencies trying to feed the poor

684
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:31,650
in Africa, in Mexico, where a
third of the population lives on

685
00:43:31,650 --> 00:43:36,060
$5 or less a day there were
right about efficiency by 50.

686
00:43:36,060 --> 00:43:39,270
Double but didn't it? Rain
bread?

687
00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:47,460
Didn't Rain, rain? Oh, whatever.

688
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,090
I'm a commercial crapper. And
I've been working in the

689
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,510
Chesapeake Bay for 50 plus
years, and I have a crab house

690
00:43:57,660 --> 00:44:01,170
business out on the water. And
the water level is the same as

691
00:44:01,170 --> 00:44:05,940
it was when the place was built
in 1970. I'm not a scientist,

692
00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:10,470
but I'm a keen observer. And if
sea level rise is occurring, why

693
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:13,110
am I not seeing signs of it?
We're our island is

694
00:44:13,110 --> 00:44:16,290
disappearing. But it's because
of erosion and not sea level

695
00:44:16,290 --> 00:44:19,770
rise and plus we get us a wall
we lose. We will lose our

696
00:44:19,770 --> 00:44:23,550
island. But back to the question
Why? Why am I not seeing signs

697
00:44:23,550 --> 00:44:26,520
of the sea level rise? What do
you think the erosion is due to

698
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:36,210
Mayor wave action storms as that
increased? Any? Not really. So

699
00:44:36,210 --> 00:44:39,030
you're losing the island even
though the waves and have an

700
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:43,680
increase? Yes, this this erosion
has been going on, since Captain

701
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,850
john smith discovered the island
and named it. Yeah, well, it's

702
00:44:47,850 --> 00:44:51,150
gotten to our doorstep now and
we focus on it more well,

703
00:44:51,150 --> 00:44:54,060
arguments about signs aren't
necessarily going to be of any

704
00:44:54,060 --> 00:44:56,880
comfort to you and I'm sorry for
what you're going through and

705
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,920
your neighbors on Tangier
island. I read about you in the

706
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,890
paper. There was an article in
The Washington Post, I believe,

707
00:45:04,890 --> 00:45:08,040
after President Trump called you
up and won't necessarily do any

708
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,430
good for me to tell you that the
scientists do say that the sea

709
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:14,430
level is rising in the
Chesapeake Bay and that you've

710
00:45:14,430 --> 00:45:20,160
lost about two thirds of your
island already in it over a

711
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:25,020
longer period of time. And that
the forecast for the future is

712
00:45:25,050 --> 00:45:28,950
another two feet of Sue, what
would another if if there was

713
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:31,950
another two feet of sea level
rise? What would that mean for

714
00:45:31,950 --> 00:45:36,660
Tangier island? Tangier Island,
is our elevation is only about

715
00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:40,380
four feet above sea level. Yeah.
And if if I see sea level rise

716
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:43,740
occurring, I'll shout it from
the housetop. Okay, and then we

717
00:45:43,740 --> 00:45:47,100
don't have, you know, the land
to give up. But I'm just not

718
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:51,630
seeing it. Yeah, okay. Well, one
of the challenges of this issue

719
00:45:51,660 --> 00:45:56,460
is taking what the, what the
scientists say, and, and

720
00:45:56,460 --> 00:46:00,930
translating it into terms that
are believable to people with

721
00:46:00,930 --> 00:46:04,470
that where they can see the
consequences in the in their own

722
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:08,010
lives. And, and I get that, and
I try every day to figure out

723
00:46:08,010 --> 00:46:10,410
ways to ways to do that fortune,
because

724
00:46:10,410 --> 00:46:13,530
on some of them, you may think,
Well, you know, I can follow her

725
00:46:13,530 --> 00:46:17,970
on Xs, you but on why? That is
the reality. She's wrong. Well,

726
00:46:18,030 --> 00:46:21,120
let's have a discussion about
that. So I'll start with perhaps

727
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,080
the most contentious of all,
which is manmade global warming.

728
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,910
And I will put my cards on the
table. And I will say there is

729
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:33,570
little, if anything, to support
the idea that something

730
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,640
extraordinary and unprecedented
is happening to the climate. For

731
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,650
example, it was warmer 1000s of
years ago, for example, the link

732
00:46:43,650 --> 00:46:47,670
between carbon dioxide and
temperature is not

733
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:51,360
straightforward. For example,
the seas are not rising, the ice

734
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,840
is not shrinking, the polar
bears are not vanishing. And our

735
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,770
gore did not deserve his Nobel
Prize. There has been no

736
00:46:58,770 --> 00:47:02,430
significant warming since 1995.
Despite the fact that we're told

737
00:47:02,430 --> 00:47:05,490
that if carbon dioxide
increases, the temperature will

738
00:47:05,490 --> 00:47:08,580
increase. Carbon Dioxide has
increased the temperature has

739
00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:12,240
not increased. And the most
important thing of all, is that

740
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,880
the argument that the climate
which is possibly the most

741
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,080
complex system, that there is
the idea that it a can be

742
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,840
predicted, and b can be altered
by changing one component is

743
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:30,150
absurd. So here is now what I
worry about very much is the

744
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:35,430
conference going to be in Paris
in November. And I really worry

745
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:39,960
about that. Because where the
conference was in, in

746
00:47:40,170 --> 00:47:44,370
Copenhagen, that almost became a
disaster, but nothing got

747
00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:49,320
decided. But now I think the
people who are alarmist, I've

748
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:54,060
been very strong physician. And
so the Physical Society always

749
00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:57,690
have made up their mind. So I
don't have to worry about them.

750
00:47:58,230 --> 00:48:01,860
But the facts are, that in the
last 100 years or so we

751
00:48:01,860 --> 00:48:05,310
have measured the temperature
has gone up point eight degrees,

752
00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:08,310
and everything in the world has
gotten better.

753
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:14,400
So how can they say it's gonna
get worse? When we have the

754
00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:17,910
evidence that if it's true that
they can measure at least they

755
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:20,910
believe it, or the temperature
going up point and agree,

756
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,240
everything we live longer, we
have better word, better health,

757
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:28,590
better everything. But we forgot
one other point eight degrees,

758
00:48:28,590 --> 00:48:33,510
we're going to die I guess. And
I say this to Obama, excuse me,

759
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:38,610
Mr. President, prove you're
wrong. He is dead wrong. And I

760
00:48:38,610 --> 00:48:42,870
said that once in a while I will
partner add in a Time Magazine.

761
00:48:43,290 --> 00:48:47,460
And I said the same thing.
Because he he I think Obama is a

762
00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:51,810
clever person. But he get bad
advice. At a global warming,

763
00:48:51,810 --> 00:48:56,430
he's all wet. See, I would say
that the global warming

764
00:48:56,430 --> 00:49:01,290
basically is a non problem. Just
leave it alone take care of

765
00:49:01,290 --> 00:49:04,200
itself. It's quite a special
moment when we come out of the

766
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,670
forest. Come over this rice and
bam right in front of us is this

767
00:49:08,670 --> 00:49:12,690
huge, giant white face of the
snout and the end of the glass

768
00:49:12,690 --> 00:49:16,200
here and we just kind of had a
moment of taking it in and him

769
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,010
realizing this is why he's
fought so hard for all he's

770
00:49:20,010 --> 00:49:23,490
doing to try and protect our
planet. Your most problems in

771
00:49:23,490 --> 00:49:28,590
the world, as tragic as they may
be, are fixable. You can reverse

772
00:49:28,590 --> 00:49:31,590
trends. This is one of those
trends where if it starts

773
00:49:31,590 --> 00:49:36,360
accelerating too fast, then we
we can be through light. Because

774
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:41,070
when the planet warmed beginning
in 1976, the temperature of the

775
00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:43,860
stratosphere started to drop.
That's a prediction of

776
00:49:43,860 --> 00:49:47,640
greenhouse theory. That's not
intuitive. You know, the great

777
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:52,200
philosopher of science, Karl
Popper said, if you can meet a

778
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,530
difficult prediction with your
theory, you can continue to

779
00:49:55,530 --> 00:49:58,560
entertain your theory. So the
theory is right but the

780
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,400
application of it is wrong. It
is nowhere near as warm as it's

781
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,230
supposed to be. The computer
models are making systematic

782
00:50:07,230 --> 00:50:12,300
dramatic errors over the entire
tropics, which is 40% of the

783
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:15,720
earth. And it's where all our
moisture comes from, or almost

784
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:20,010
all of it. And let me stop.
Yeah. Who does these computer

785
00:50:20,010 --> 00:50:25,590
models, governments, there are
32 families of computer models

786
00:50:25,590 --> 00:50:28,890
that are used by the United
Nations, each government

787
00:50:28,890 --> 00:50:36,690
sponsored. And all of them are
predicting Far, far too much

788
00:50:36,690 --> 00:50:40,140
warming, the disparity between
what's been predicted to happen,

789
00:50:40,140 --> 00:50:44,190
which looks like this. And what
is happening continues to grow.

790
00:50:44,220 --> 00:50:47,070
We know that for a fact. Yeah,
you can, because you can just

791
00:50:47,070 --> 00:50:50,430
look at the weather balloon
temperatures, you can look at

792
00:50:50,430 --> 00:50:53,280
the satellite temperatures, you
can look at something called the

793
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,640
reanalysis data, they all behave
in concert. So they're showing

794
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,060
the same thing. And the same
thing is a lot different than

795
00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:04,440
this thing. However, one model
works. And you know what it is?

796
00:51:04,770 --> 00:51:08,310
It's the Russian model. So let
me get this. So all the

797
00:51:08,310 --> 00:51:10,080
government models are like this.
Yeah.

798
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:12,570
The Russian model is like this

799
00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:15,660
Russia model as the least
warming in it, and the Russia

800
00:51:15,660 --> 00:51:19,050
model is the least warming. And
the Russia model pretty much

801
00:51:19,050 --> 00:51:22,290
follows reality. Yeah. What's
been tested over a few decades?

802
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,520
Yeah. Correct. You know, if we
were rational about this, think

803
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,590
about the daily weather
forecasts, you know, you watch

804
00:51:28,590 --> 00:51:31,800
The Weather Channel, all this
model says that that model says

805
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,010
that we think this one's working
the best. So we're going to rely

806
00:51:35,010 --> 00:51:39,210
on that. Well, for climate
forecasts, we should be using

807
00:51:39,210 --> 00:51:43,590
the Russian model, but we're not
we use this big spate of all the

808
00:51:43,590 --> 00:51:46,800
other models that have this
warming in them that's not

809
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,370
occurring. Why are all these
other government models? 31 of

810
00:51:50,370 --> 00:51:50,610
them are

811
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:56,640
wrong, and why do they all go in
the same direction? up? Because

812
00:51:57,060 --> 00:52:01,920
they are what is called
parameterised? That they're all

813
00:52:01,950 --> 00:52:05,370
parameterised. Can I translate
parameterize into English

814
00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:09,570
fudged? Okay? The don't get the
right answer don't know the

815
00:52:09,570 --> 00:52:14,610
right answer for certain
phenomena. So we essentially put

816
00:52:14,610 --> 00:52:20,100
in code steps that give us what
we think it should be. And the

817
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:24,930
systematic error that was made
was, the models were tuned, as

818
00:52:24,930 --> 00:52:29,640
it said, tuned, tuned to
simulate the warming of the

819
00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:36,090
early 20th century began in
1910. And in 1945, about point

820
00:52:36,090 --> 00:52:40,410
four five degrees Celsius mark,
that could not have been caused

821
00:52:40,410 --> 00:52:43,980
by carbon dioxide, because there
wasn't that we had to put enough

822
00:52:43,980 --> 00:52:47,910
in that the background carbon
dioxide concentrations 280 parts

823
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:51,030
per million. When the second
first warming started, it was

824
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:55,830
298 parts per million. If the
atmosphere is that sensitive to

825
00:52:55,830 --> 00:53:00,060
an 18 ppm change in co2. We
wouldn't be talking about this

826
00:53:00,060 --> 00:53:03,660
right now. We'd be sweating
bullets. pollen counts across

827
00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:07,710
the country are exploding 30% of
the country tonight is in the

828
00:53:07,710 --> 00:53:12,000
medium high range. The areas in
red here on your screen are

829
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,510
where it's worst. Errol Barnett
reports from North Carolina,

830
00:53:15,870 --> 00:53:19,020
when an annual Rite of Spring
collided with an incoming

831
00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:22,770
thunderstorm in North Carolina
recently, the pictures look like

832
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,150
Armageddon. Or Paul mageddon as
photographer Jeremy Gilchrist

833
00:53:27,150 --> 00:53:30,720
described his drone footage
showing tree pollen hovering in

834
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:35,460
the atmosphere. It left a thick
yellow pollen film, everything

835
00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:39,870
outside coated by the male
flower seed. So doctor, these

836
00:53:39,870 --> 00:53:42,780
are the culprits right now.
Anyway, yeah, these are the bad

837
00:53:42,780 --> 00:53:45,990
actors you see. So sort of the
tallest ones their big towering

838
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:50,220
pine trees. A recent study
analyzed pollen data from 17

839
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:54,090
locations across the globe and
found that climate change may be

840
00:53:54,090 --> 00:53:58,440
making things worse. allergists
Dr. David Fitts you know, as we

841
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,850
see, climate change evolving,
holiday seasons tend to start

842
00:54:02,850 --> 00:54:06,690
earlier, they tend to last
longer, and the absolute pollen

843
00:54:06,690 --> 00:54:09,780
counts are much higher. Last
week, the pollen count in North

844
00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:13,920
Carolina was the highest of the
year at more than 3200 grains

845
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,970
per cubic meter of air are very
high. And this video from

846
00:54:17,970 --> 00:54:21,270
Tennessee shows just how much
pollen is visible throughout the

847
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:25,230
South. That's bad news for the
more than 50 million Americans

848
00:54:25,230 --> 00:54:30,930
with seasonal allergies. you
address the UN recently. Yeah,

849
00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:34,860
you did. What are you shocked
you did you were there? I think

850
00:54:34,860 --> 00:54:38,040
so. Yeah, it was that was quite
an honor. What were you talking

851
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,970
about climate change. And it was
about the fact that we've been

852
00:54:41,970 --> 00:54:45,030
talking about climate change for
20 years is time to stop talking

853
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:49,950
about and do something about it.
So urgency was a theme in

854
00:54:49,950 --> 00:54:55,170
speaking why there's still
deniers. Well you can use you

855
00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:59,610
can answer that as well as I can
look at the weather tonight. If

856
00:54:59,610 --> 00:55:01,830
you belong To a certain group of
people that are afraid of

857
00:55:01,830 --> 00:55:04,380
change, which I think some
people are, and so they're going

858
00:55:04,380 --> 00:55:08,370
to deny change when it happens.
So they just deny but it but it

859
00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:11,910
isn't even isn't it obvious that
with long ladies to you and to

860
00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:14,370
me, but and probably it's to
them, but they don't want to

861
00:55:14,370 --> 00:55:17,280
admit it, because it means
they're gonna have to accept

862
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,530
change, or they got to give up
something. But I don't know what

863
00:55:19,530 --> 00:55:22,380
the deal is. What do you think
of Obama's Clean Power Plan?

864
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:27,360
Well, I like his plan. I mean, I
think, look, it's it's puzzling,

865
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,330
because he doing so many great
things, things I really do

866
00:55:30,330 --> 00:55:34,020
support. When it comes to the
Arctic drilling, and I can't put

867
00:55:34,020 --> 00:55:37,020
that one together. I just can't
put that one together. Because

868
00:55:37,020 --> 00:55:39,330
if once you start that, you
know, once you drill in the

869
00:55:39,330 --> 00:55:42,780
Arctic, you're looking at the
end game, I think. And so that's

870
00:55:42,780 --> 00:55:45,120
puzzling to me, because he's
doing so many good things, which

871
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,880
I totally support. And then
something like that comes

872
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,520
around, you say, well, what's
going on? I it's kind of hard to

873
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,240
figure out.

874
00:55:51,780 --> 00:55:53,700
Are you endorsing someone for
president?

875
00:55:54,090 --> 00:55:57,570
Yes, I have just decided to
endorse my longtime friend,

876
00:55:58,350 --> 00:56:00,630
Senator Clinton, I think that
Bernie Sanders is over

877
00:56:00,630 --> 00:56:04,800
promising. He's insensitive to
the plight of black people. And

878
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,220
what good is if you don't take
lobbyist money, and you don't

879
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:13,410
acknowledge the number one
threat to America into the world

880
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,710
is the factory farming lobby,
because it is poisoning the

881
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:21,180
planet quickly. And it is poor,
it is poisoning its inhabitants.

882
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:25,770
So that the shift has to be made
away from the animal product

883
00:56:25,770 --> 00:56:29,400
away from the beef industry,
specifically, but all the animal

884
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,270
products into a plant based
diet, or there will be no

885
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:35,820
planet. And in the next 50
years, we won't even have an

886
00:56:35,820 --> 00:56:39,030
ocean. And when the oceans die,
we die. So we must change the

887
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:41,880
rate at which we consume
animals. And we cannot have a

888
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,720
lobbyist take advantage of all
our natural resources in order

889
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:48,180
to poison the planet. And its
people. I asked him about it.

890
00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:52,140
And he was he brushed it off,
even though he knows that you're

891
00:56:52,140 --> 00:56:56,370
earthquake. And certainly all of
these storms are a result of

892
00:56:56,370 --> 00:56:59,460
factory farming. We now have all
the proof in the world, that

893
00:56:59,490 --> 00:57:02,580
fact that climate change is man
made, and we have to do

894
00:57:02,580 --> 00:57:07,350
something to derail it. So,
aside from his insensitivity to

895
00:57:07,350 --> 00:57:08,340
black voters,

896
00:57:08,370 --> 00:57:10,710
do you really think Bernie
Sanders is insensitive to the

897
00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:11,460
needs of the black?

898
00:57:12,330 --> 00:57:17,340
agenda? Yes, he's insensitive in
in a number of ways. And I would

899
00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:20,610
get into it if we had time. But
I think setting the Clinton has

900
00:57:20,610 --> 00:57:25,110
been sensitive, supportive of
progressive agenda. She's

901
00:57:25,110 --> 00:57:29,700
realistic in what she can get
done. She, she's able to beat

902
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,240
the Republican candidate. And I
think that Bernie Sanders would

903
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,750
not be able to, could lose. And
I don't want to take that

904
00:57:36,750 --> 00:57:41,580
chance. Is it correct, that the
satellite data over the last 18

905
00:57:41,580 --> 00:57:44,370
years demonstrate no significant
warming?

906
00:57:45,870 --> 00:57:48,480
No. How is it incorrect?

907
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,030
based upon our experts, it's
been refuted long ago. And

908
00:57:54,030 --> 00:57:58,470
there's no long it's not up for
a scientific debate. I'm curious

909
00:57:58,470 --> 00:58:02,280
if it's so it's, I want to
understand this. I do find it

910
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,620
highly interesting that the
President of the Sierra Club

911
00:58:04,620 --> 00:58:08,760
when when asked what the
satellite data demonstrate about

912
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,440
warming, apparently is relying
on staff so So

913
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:19,770
the nice thing about the
satellite data is these are

914
00:58:19,770 --> 00:58:23,970
objective numbers. Correct? And
the numbers over the last 18

915
00:58:23,970 --> 00:58:26,370
years, you're familiar with the
phrase the pause?

916
00:58:31,050 --> 00:58:34,620
The answer is yes. And
essentially, we rest on our

917
00:58:34,620 --> 00:58:37,770
position and to what you said
you are familiar with the pause.

918
00:58:37,770 --> 00:58:41,550
So to what does the phrase the
pause, refer? I'm sorry, you

919
00:58:41,550 --> 00:58:44,310
said you were familiar with that
term. So I asked to what does it

920
00:58:44,310 --> 00:58:44,820
refer

921
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,350
essentially as a slowing in
global warming during the 40.

922
00:58:49,350 --> 00:58:51,510
Sir, during the 40s?

923
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,060
Is it not the term that the
global warming alarmist have

924
00:58:57,060 --> 00:59:03,210
used to explain the Inconvenient
Truth? To use a phrase

925
00:59:03,210 --> 00:59:06,450
popularized by former Vice
President Al Gore, that the

926
00:59:06,450 --> 00:59:10,620
satellite data over the last 18
years demonstrate no significant

927
00:59:10,620 --> 00:59:14,820
warming whatsoever? global
warming alarmists call that the

928
00:59:14,820 --> 00:59:19,860
pause. Because the computer
models say there should be

929
00:59:19,860 --> 00:59:23,340
dramatic warming. And yet the
actual satellites taking the

930
00:59:23,340 --> 00:59:27,600
measurement, don't show any
significant warming, whatsoever

931
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,310
to 97% of the scientists concur
and agree that there is global

932
00:59:32,310 --> 00:59:35,580
warming and anthropogenic impact
with our doors. The problem with

933
00:59:35,580 --> 00:59:38,970
that statistic that gets cited a
lot is it's based on one bogus

934
00:59:38,970 --> 00:59:43,410
study. And indeed your response.
I would point out your response

935
00:59:44,430 --> 00:59:48,210
is quite striking. I asked about
the science and the evidence,

936
00:59:48,210 --> 00:59:50,730
the actual data, we have
satellites, they're measuring

937
00:59:50,730 --> 00:59:55,770
temperature, that should be
relevant and your answer was Pay

938
00:59:55,770 --> 00:59:59,970
no attention to your lying eyes
and the numbers that the sad

939
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,320
lightshow instead, listen to the
scientists who are receiving

940
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:11,460
massive grants who tell us Do
not debate the science. Today

941
01:00:11,490 --> 01:00:15,000
was France's hottest day on
record temperatures there

942
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:20,370
reached over 114 degrees. A
heatwave from Sub Saharan Africa

943
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,940
has spread across large parts of
Europe all week. This system

944
01:00:23,940 --> 01:00:29,550
spans from the UK to Italy to
the Czech Republic. In Berlin,

945
01:00:29,610 --> 01:00:33,660
police deployed water cannons to
salvage dying grass and trees.

946
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,650
in Catalonia, firefighters
struggled to control a wildfire

947
01:00:37,650 --> 01:00:42,210
under scorching temperatures.
Tonight, Paris was baking as the

948
01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:46,470
US women's soccer team defeated
France at the World Cup. While

949
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:49,350
it's difficult to attribute any
particular weather event to

950
01:00:49,350 --> 01:00:53,160
climate change, there's growing
evidence that climate change is

951
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,910
changing the way the jet stream
flows, and that can make these

952
01:00:56,910 --> 01:01:00,720
events worse. Michael Mann is an
atmospheric scientist at Penn

953
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,830
State University this extreme
heat is is due to the fact that

954
01:01:04,860 --> 01:01:08,580
we're seeing these really large
wiggles in the jet stream, the

955
01:01:08,580 --> 01:01:12,180
jet stream slowing down so these
high and low pressure systems

956
01:01:12,180 --> 01:01:14,520
get stuck in place and where you
get one of these high pressure

957
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,640
systems stuck in place like we
saw last year in California you

958
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,690
get extreme heat.

959
01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:23,370
Ken bell of San Marcos, Texas,
the heat wave and floods came as

960
01:01:23,370 --> 01:01:26,490
protests against the fossil fuel
companies largely responsible

961
01:01:26,490 --> 01:01:29,010
for climate change faced
protests across the United

962
01:01:29,010 --> 01:01:32,250
States. On Sunday in Santa
Barbara, California residents

963
01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:35,970
protested a major oil spill,
which has killed wildlife and

964
01:01:35,970 --> 01:01:39,060
soiled beaches in Bellingham,
Washington to protesters

965
01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:42,510
suspended themselves from the
anchor chain of a ship to oppose

966
01:01:42,660 --> 01:01:46,890
shows plans to drill for oil in
the Arctic grr DeAngelo hung

967
01:01:46,890 --> 01:01:49,650
from the anchor of the Arctic
challenger from Friday till

968
01:01:49,650 --> 01:01:52,770
Monday morning, while fellow
protester Matt fuller joins her

969
01:01:52,770 --> 01:01:55,710
for 22 hours on Saturday and
Sunday. Meanwhile, the

970
01:01:55,710 --> 01:02:00,270
University of Hawaii has voted
to divest at 600 its $66 million

971
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,530
endowment from fossil fuels,
becoming the largest university

972
01:02:04,530 --> 01:02:07,320
to heed the growing divestment
movement to date.

973
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,130
I've often heard it said that
there is a consensus of 1000s of

974
01:02:11,130 --> 01:02:14,220
scientists on the global warming
issue and the humans are causing

975
01:02:14,220 --> 01:02:18,000
a catastrophic change to the
climate system. Well, I am one

976
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,730
scientist and there are many
that simply think that is not

977
01:02:20,730 --> 01:02:24,810
true. manmade global warming is
no ordinary scientific theory.

978
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,700
This morning, the
Intergovernmental Panel on

979
01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:29,700
Climate Change made up it is
presented in the media as having

980
01:02:29,700 --> 01:02:32,610
the stamp of authority of an
impressive international

981
01:02:32,610 --> 01:02:36,960
organization from the IPCC, the
United Nations Intergovernmental

982
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:42,720
Panel on Climate Change, or
IPCC, the IPCC, like any human

983
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:47,430
body is political. The final
conclusions are politically

984
01:02:47,430 --> 01:02:55,080
driven. This claim that the IPCC
is the world's top 1500 or 2500.

985
01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:58,830
Scientists, you look at the
bibliographies of the people.

986
01:02:58,830 --> 01:03:01,830
And it's simply not true, there
are quite a number of non

987
01:03:01,830 --> 01:03:05,550
scientists and to build the
number up to 2500. They have to

988
01:03:05,550 --> 01:03:09,240
start taking reviewers and
government people and so on

989
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,530
anyone who ever came close to
them. And none of them are asked

990
01:03:13,650 --> 01:03:18,330
to agree. Many of them disagree
those people who are

991
01:03:18,330 --> 01:03:22,500
specialists, but don't agree
with the polemic, and resign and

992
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:26,370
there have been a number that I
know of. They are simply put on

993
01:03:26,370 --> 01:03:30,300
the author list and become part
of this 2500 of the world's top

994
01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:33,120
scientists, people have decided
you have to convince other

995
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,780
people that since no scientist
disagrees, you shouldn't

996
01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:37,890
disagree, either.

997
01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:41,610
But that whenever you hear that
in science, that's pure

998
01:03:41,610 --> 01:03:42,450
propaganda.

999
01:03:44,070 --> 01:03:47,340
I'm going to show my move by
donation to no agenda. Imagine

1000
01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:50,040
all the people who could do Oh
Yeah, that'd be fun.

1001
01:03:57,510 --> 01:04:00,660
I don't want to say too much but
we got we got the best clips

1002
01:04:01,170 --> 01:04:06,120
that we had a lot of clips. This
show has been is built on a

1003
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,980
house of clips. Clip so I like
that a lot. House of clips.

1004
01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:16,470
Yeah, totally. It's, it's
outrageous. When you really put

1005
01:04:16,470 --> 01:04:20,580
it all together like that, and
you hear it. You're right. It

1006
01:04:20,580 --> 01:04:24,450
just sounds like normal, sane
people are saying some kind of

1007
01:04:24,660 --> 01:04:29,970
normal stuff, and everyone else
is insane. Yeah, the insanity

1008
01:04:29,970 --> 01:04:32,790
comes through. It's, I don't
know what to make of it, but

1009
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,420
it's kind of pathetic. It
doesn't get any better. In the

1010
01:04:36,420 --> 01:04:38,490
second half, which I should
mention, because we do have a

1011
01:04:38,490 --> 01:04:41,100
donation segment we can do
because the Donate donators will

1012
01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:45,570
be all pushed to show 1338 Can
anyone who's donated to the show

1013
01:04:45,570 --> 01:04:48,750
will be hearing about it on 1338
Well, now I'm donation segment

1014
01:04:48,750 --> 01:04:52,230
if someone does a elite donation
which we're missing, which is

1015
01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:55,110
sad, but well, that'll be the
next show. That's what I'm gonna

1016
01:04:55,110 --> 01:04:58,890
say. Okay, so what but it'll be
the newsletter. We'll put it

1017
01:04:58,890 --> 01:05:02,100
into delete donate. Coming up
for the next show. Oh, and that

1018
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:07,140
also could be read out all the
lead donors on show 1338. So we

1019
01:05:07,140 --> 01:05:10,170
appreciate that. Yeah, hopefully
we'll get a bunch of those.

1020
01:05:11,340 --> 01:05:14,490
Everyone wanted to be a producer
on leads for sure. And we

1021
01:05:14,490 --> 01:05:18,960
appreciate you making producers.
And we're gonna say we really

1022
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,990
appreciate the support. And in
particular, the support that we

1023
01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:26,160
can go and get a little head to
headspace cleaned at least is

1024
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,100
for me, I'm speaking on my
behalf. I need to rest I need to

1025
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:33,150
unplug. I really don't intend to
be communicating much. I'm just

1026
01:05:33,150 --> 01:05:37,920
going to go. I just want to I
know you're you're collecting

1027
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:38,730
clips from

1028
01:05:41,070 --> 01:05:43,560
Waco, I think, yes.

1029
01:05:46,110 --> 01:05:46,770
Temple.

1030
01:05:49,710 --> 01:05:53,340
That's where we're going. How
was San Antonio, I gotta tell

1031
01:05:53,340 --> 01:05:55,830
you, Galveston is beautiful.
This

1032
01:05:57,450 --> 01:06:03,030
is actually all right. So please
remember us in case you forgot

1033
01:06:03,030 --> 01:06:07,050
that if you'd like to support
us, either directly for for the

1034
01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:09,690
shows with the show number
executive or associate executive

1035
01:06:09,690 --> 01:06:12,570
producer ship. Or if you want to
get on one of our programs,

1036
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:19,200
boomerang.org slash and a man, I
think we can go into Part Two

1037
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,820
now. Part Two, here we go.

1038
01:06:23,550 --> 01:06:24,270
I just

1039
01:06:24,270 --> 01:06:25,830
don't know if they're gonna do
anything.

1040
01:06:26,459 --> 01:06:30,569
And I just, I'm so concerned
with the fact that if they're

1041
01:06:30,569 --> 01:06:32,909
not going to change anything,
then what's gonna happen to

1042
01:06:33,629 --> 01:06:36,869
humankind, what's gonna happen
to out what's gonna happen to

1043
01:06:36,869 --> 01:06:37,709
the whole world.

1044
01:06:38,940 --> 01:06:45,000
If no one does anything, let me
be very blunt about this. Coal

1045
01:06:45,450 --> 01:06:49,590
represents perhaps the greatest
challenge to Canada or to the

1046
01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:55,680
world not meeting its climate
change targets. Unless we reduce

1047
01:06:55,890 --> 01:06:59,850
coal consumption, we are not
going to be able to create

1048
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,600
create catastrophic global
warming. But what we do know the

1049
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:08,250
two largest impacts on
temperature, are the El Ninos in

1050
01:07:08,250 --> 01:07:13,410
the Pacific, as well as volcanic
eruptions, which shade the earth

1051
01:07:13,410 --> 01:07:17,910
when they put the dust and smoke
in the stratosphere. So once you

1052
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:20,610
account for both of those,
there's not a whole lot of

1053
01:07:20,610 --> 01:07:24,000
warming in the planet, the
conclusion we have reached is

1054
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,620
that the world the global
climate is not very sensitive to

1055
01:07:28,620 --> 01:07:34,080
carbon dioxide. And that can be
that can occur if the climate

1056
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:41,640
responds in its many facets, to
release heat, when you add the

1057
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:46,200
heat from carbon dioxide, so
carbon dioxide does allow more

1058
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:50,910
heat to be retained in the
system, the climate system, but

1059
01:07:50,910 --> 01:07:54,990
the climate system also has many
ways to allow an increased

1060
01:07:55,050 --> 01:07:58,650
release of heat to space. And so
we think that's what's going on

1061
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,800
that there are feedbacks that
are allowing that heat to escape

1062
01:08:01,830 --> 01:08:06,240
and not accumulate the way
models have indicated. You will

1063
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,680
see our capital city flooded to
the top of the buses. You will

1064
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:15,210
see houses smashed to Flinders
and boats thrown up onto the

1065
01:08:15,210 --> 01:08:15,690
land.

1066
01:08:18,180 --> 01:08:21,960
That was with a see 10 inches
below what we have now.

1067
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:30,600
And every responsible scientist
tells us the risk of worse and

1068
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,380
bigger ocean storms has
increased because of the

1069
01:08:34,380 --> 01:08:35,400
emission of carbons.

1070
01:08:35,730 --> 01:08:40,980
Climate change, climate change
era threat. How many years do we

1071
01:08:40,980 --> 01:08:43,620
have? Excuse me? Do you guys
have a moment to talk about

1072
01:08:43,620 --> 01:08:43,980
climate

1073
01:08:43,979 --> 01:08:44,339
change?

1074
01:08:44,369 --> 01:08:47,699
we polled kids across Canada and
ask them to recollection issues

1075
01:08:47,699 --> 01:08:52,349
in order of priority 74% rights,
climate change is the issue most

1076
01:08:52,349 --> 01:08:54,869
important to them. climate
scientists are now saying we

1077
01:08:54,869 --> 01:08:58,649
only have 12 years left after if
we want to avoid catastrophic

1078
01:08:58,649 --> 01:09:02,099
damage. That's why we're
lobbying the federal government

1079
01:09:02,099 --> 01:09:04,499
to lower the voting age from 18
to eight.

1080
01:09:17,610 --> 01:09:21,420
If we were scared, we can learn.

1081
01:09:28,230 --> 01:09:30,840
I can vote and then I can't.

1082
01:09:33,390 --> 01:09:34,740
These kids are not here to

1083
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:37,080
let the kids

1084
01:09:38,579 --> 01:09:41,339
let the kids vote. let kids
voice

1085
01:09:43,140 --> 01:09:44,160
the kids.

1086
01:09:47,069 --> 01:09:50,489
What's absolutely clear about
climate change is that it's a

1087
01:09:50,669 --> 01:09:55,949
it's a big problem and it's
urgent. And we all absolutely

1088
01:09:55,949 --> 01:10:00,269
need to do something about it.
But yeah, what so what There's

1089
01:10:00,269 --> 01:10:05,249
no there's no absolute certainty
over the over the over the

1090
01:10:05,249 --> 01:10:08,369
timescales. Sometimes we've been
hearing recently about a 12 year

1091
01:10:08,369 --> 01:10:11,249
timescale. And in some ways
that's useful to think about.

1092
01:10:11,579 --> 01:10:16,559
But nobody really knows whether
whether 10 years might be a

1093
01:10:16,559 --> 01:10:19,289
timescale that we've got before
something really nasty. We've

1094
01:10:19,349 --> 01:10:24,119
thought before we start tipping
a feedback mechanism that makes

1095
01:10:24,209 --> 01:10:27,149
quite nasty things happening in
our climate, or whether we've

1096
01:10:27,149 --> 01:10:30,419
got 15 years or whether we've
already gone over that tipping

1097
01:10:30,419 --> 01:10:30,749
point.

1098
01:10:31,169 --> 01:10:34,499
For French wine won't be flowing
quite so freely this year

1099
01:10:34,499 --> 01:10:38,009
climate change, making sure of
that the world's number two wine

1100
01:10:38,009 --> 01:10:41,069
producer has seen its crop
shrink due to extreme weather,

1101
01:10:41,069 --> 01:10:45,419
some farmers have lost 85% of
their harvest due to frosty

1102
01:10:45,419 --> 01:10:49,109
weather. Not quite the chill
shabbily that wine connoisseurs

1103
01:10:49,109 --> 01:10:52,559
had in mind, so much to get into
more coming up later on.

1104
01:10:52,559 --> 01:10:55,529
But do you just very quickly do
both despair about the fact that

1105
01:10:55,529 --> 01:10:58,559
this is you know, in America,
there's a certain strain of

1106
01:10:58,589 --> 01:11:01,229
evangelical thinking, which says
this is not happening because

1107
01:11:01,229 --> 01:11:04,529
God would not let this happen.
And it's not just a minority

1108
01:11:04,529 --> 01:11:08,399
report. These people are in the
White House, in in, you know, in

1109
01:11:08,639 --> 01:11:13,259
in Rational terms. Do we need a
new president for the planet?

1110
01:11:13,709 --> 01:11:14,009
Well, it's

1111
01:11:14,010 --> 01:11:17,220
your dad's obsession, isn't it?
He's got panels on the roof, the

1112
01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:18,600
grizzly electric car.

1113
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:23,640
Is he mad? No, because it will
help the, it will help the world

1114
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,520
from global warming. Do you
think so? Yeah.

1115
01:11:26,730 --> 01:11:27,960
Do you agree with all this?

1116
01:11:28,050 --> 01:11:30,510
Yes, I do. Okay, okay. Well, the

1117
01:11:30,510 --> 01:11:33,060
thing is, your your house is the
only one in the street with

1118
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:36,540
solar panels on isn't it? So
what difference is this making?

1119
01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:40,980
It helps a lot from global
warming. So we need to get other

1120
01:11:40,980 --> 01:11:44,250
people to do this. Yeah. So how
do you how'd you get other

1121
01:11:44,250 --> 01:11:48,540
people to do it? We talked to
them, and we let them know the

1122
01:11:48,540 --> 01:11:49,500
consequences of it.

1123
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,350
Do you really walk around school
saying boy go green?

1124
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,430
Well, that's what we need to do.
Okay. Yes, yeah. Yeah. All

1125
01:11:56,430 --> 01:11:59,190
right. All right. And so you
too, as I understand it,

1126
01:11:59,219 --> 01:12:02,069
I've never been on a plane.
There's not even a propeller

1127
01:12:02,069 --> 01:12:02,429
plane,

1128
01:12:02,610 --> 01:12:08,850
or an a glider. Why do you think
that is? Because the fumes from

1129
01:12:08,850 --> 01:12:11,850
the plane, pollute the world?
And where do your friends go on

1130
01:12:11,850 --> 01:12:15,960
holiday? Well, my friends
usually go to like Tunis, you're

1131
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:22,770
in Mexico, on planes. Sounds
great. Yeah, where do you go? We

1132
01:12:22,770 --> 01:12:25,950
usually go to France and Germany
and places like

1133
01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:27,480
that. Right? So you're not
flying? Do you feel you're

1134
01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:28,440
missing out at all?

1135
01:12:29,340 --> 01:12:33,360
Not really, but because it's
quite good as it's not polluting

1136
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:38,010
the world, how much of it is
some cyclical geologic history?

1137
01:12:38,490 --> 01:12:41,100
And even if the contribution
we're making is just the one

1138
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:43,770
straw that breaks the camel's
back? Isn't that enough to get

1139
01:12:43,770 --> 01:12:45,960
you to want to curtail our
behavior? I think that's

1140
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,110
actually a really good question.
I'm glad you asked that. Because

1141
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:52,350
people keep telling climate
scientists like, oh, the

1142
01:12:52,350 --> 01:12:55,590
climates always changed. And
we're like, we know, we told you

1143
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:59,730
that. We are essentially the
people who study that we figured

1144
01:12:59,730 --> 01:13:03,870
that out. What percentage of the
warming right now are humans

1145
01:13:03,870 --> 01:13:09,540
responsible for over 100% humans
are responsible for more than

1146
01:13:09,540 --> 01:13:12,330
all of the warming because if it
wasn't for us, the Earth would

1147
01:13:12,330 --> 01:13:15,690
be cooling very slightly, it
would be because of what the

1148
01:13:15,690 --> 01:13:18,810
sun's doing. The sun is getting
ever so slightly weaker. So

1149
01:13:18,810 --> 01:13:22,260
yeah, if it wasn't for us, tiny
variation in the sun's output

1150
01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:26,010
would be making it colder. And
as Secretary Kerry has recently

1151
01:13:26,010 --> 01:13:30,540
noted, climate change can
produce effects similar to those

1152
01:13:30,540 --> 01:13:32,670
of weapons of mass destruction.

1153
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,940
We know that climate change will
affect

1154
01:13:35,970 --> 01:13:42,930
virtually every country on
Earth, is after all gloma global

1155
01:13:42,930 --> 01:13:47,280
climate warming. Other nations
around the world are also

1156
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,370
viewing this as a national
security risk. As to your

1157
01:13:50,370 --> 01:13:53,850
governance piece that is part of
the governance piece. The

1158
01:13:53,850 --> 01:13:56,580
American Security projects,
surveyed every country in the

1159
01:13:56,580 --> 01:13:59,970
world and asked if climate
change was included in their

1160
01:13:59,970 --> 01:14:05,040
national security strategies.
And 70% of nations said that it

1161
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,940
was the development of LaGuardia
Airport also goes to the issue

1162
01:14:08,940 --> 01:14:09,750
of climate change.

1163
01:14:09,810 --> 01:14:11,010
Absolutely no, we

1164
01:14:11,010 --> 01:14:15,870
have. We have we already are
experiencing a two foot sea

1165
01:14:15,870 --> 01:14:20,550
level rise in our areas of near
14, which directly border

1166
01:14:20,580 --> 01:14:24,510
LaGuardia Airport. So we're
already starting to see some

1167
01:14:24,510 --> 01:14:27,810
times flights get delayed
because so much water and very

1168
01:14:27,810 --> 01:14:33,660
heavy storms is starting to kind
of takeover these runways. These

1169
01:14:33,660 --> 01:14:37,470
areas of LaGuardia Airport are
experiencing and going on are

1170
01:14:37,470 --> 01:14:41,880
going to be facing very extreme
levels of sea level rises. And

1171
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,810
we need to figure out we need to
figure out how we're going to

1172
01:14:45,810 --> 01:14:48,780
either protect the airport or
how we're going to adjust

1173
01:14:49,260 --> 01:14:51,780
basically our infrastructure to
accommodate for that

1174
01:14:51,930 --> 01:14:55,560
California's Governor Jerry
Brown announcing late Friday in

1175
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,710
the face of global warming of
climate change and of what he

1176
01:14:58,710 --> 01:15:01,470
calls the lack of a federal
response that the state of

1177
01:15:01,470 --> 01:15:05,310
California is going to send its
own satellite into orbit to trap

1178
01:15:05,490 --> 01:15:09,330
track the progress of climate
change, which of course is

1179
01:15:09,330 --> 01:15:12,870
causing hurricanes to be
stronger and more severe. I

1180
01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:15,570
talked to Jerry Brown at his
global climate action summit

1181
01:15:15,570 --> 01:15:19,140
late Friday, a gathering of
state, local and world leaders.

1182
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:22,800
We're in the midst of hurricanes
and the aftermath of hurricanes.

1183
01:15:22,830 --> 01:15:26,460
And you still have the president
united states denying the

1184
01:15:26,460 --> 01:15:29,820
science of climate change. How
do you counteract that? Well,

1185
01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:30,090
first

1186
01:15:30,089 --> 01:15:35,159
of all to say it's, it's really
extraordinary that the President

1187
01:15:35,159 --> 01:15:38,939
can deny science like that. But
he's in so much so many other

1188
01:15:40,650 --> 01:15:44,460
terror, what's the word I even
have an adjective. So it's,

1189
01:15:44,460 --> 01:15:48,450
it's, it's bad. And how we
counteract it is with his

1190
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:54,090
climate summit with normal
people, respecting the truth,

1191
01:15:54,330 --> 01:15:57,390
and communicating that with
other normal people and

1192
01:15:57,390 --> 01:16:01,740
combating the president united
states, in what are lies,

1193
01:16:01,980 --> 01:16:07,410
distortions, and quite frankly,
bizarre behavior. So we have to

1194
01:16:07,410 --> 01:16:10,620
keep at it. And I'm glad you
gave me a chance to answer your

1195
01:16:10,620 --> 01:16:14,400
question, because we can't say
it enough. The President is just

1196
01:16:14,430 --> 01:16:18,360
wrong, Francisco alone, besides
sea level rise from global

1197
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,590
warming places at risk, $10
billion of public property and

1198
01:16:22,590 --> 01:16:26,310
as much as $39 billion of
private property. And in fact,

1199
01:16:26,490 --> 01:16:29,280
the lawsuit demands the oil
companies create an abatement

1200
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,910
fund in the billions of dollars
to reimburse Oakland and San

1201
01:16:32,910 --> 01:16:36,960
Francisco for damage related to
climate change. One of the great

1202
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:41,370
puzzles in climate science is
why over the past 15 years,

1203
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:46,410
global warming, has paused. Now,
one theory is that there's less

1204
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,640
output less energy reaching us
from the sun. Another is that

1205
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,340
industrial pollution is
reflecting some of that energy

1206
01:16:53,610 --> 01:16:57,270
back out into space. But perhaps
the most plausible answer, in

1207
01:16:57,270 --> 01:17:02,220
the view of many sciences lies
in the oceans. If the air isn't

1208
01:17:02,220 --> 01:17:07,290
warming up, maybe this vast body
of water is, but it's quite a

1209
01:17:07,290 --> 01:17:10,470
job, trying to work out what's
happening, we've got to remember

1210
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,490
that they are fleeing the
deadliest countries on the face

1211
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:19,950
of the planet today, compounded
by drought that was caused, not

1212
01:17:19,950 --> 01:17:24,840
by God, not by Mother Nature,
but by us. manmade climate

1213
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,690
change, our emissions are
excesses, our inaction in the

1214
01:17:27,690 --> 01:17:30,510
face of the facts and the
science when it is that deadly

1215
01:17:30,540 --> 01:17:33,120
and when you're unable to grow
your own food to feed yourself,

1216
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:37,590
you have no choice but to come
here. I don't know. I'm just

1217
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:42,030
telling myself lately.
Everything seems so meaningless

1218
01:17:42,030 --> 01:17:44,940
and empty. Go on.

1219
01:17:46,290 --> 01:17:49,320
Well, I know planets getting
hotter and hotter. And I know

1220
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,580
we're gonna have forest fires
and droughts and floods, like

1221
01:17:53,580 --> 01:17:56,910
you've never seen, we're gonna
have storms and hurricanes and

1222
01:17:56,940 --> 01:18:01,800
species are disappearing.
Sometimes I just want to close

1223
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,770
my eyes. And pretend it's not
happening.

1224
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:07,410
That's better.

1225
01:18:08,850 --> 01:18:11,610
Maybe I'm fine. Maybe it's
nothing. Maybe this whole

1226
01:18:11,610 --> 01:18:16,350
climate change fiasco was just
some sort of scam or government

1227
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:17,940
scare tactic.

1228
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:25,230
Man, I hope so. What's happening
to me? It sounds to me like

1229
01:18:25,230 --> 01:18:29,310
you're suffering from grief.
Climate change, grief.

1230
01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:34,950
Climate change grief. I mean,
that's not even a thing. That is

1231
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:39,660
a thing. And you are struggling
with the first of five stages of

1232
01:18:39,660 --> 01:18:43,500
grief, denial, denial.

1233
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,450
I don't believe it. You see,
that's what I'm talking about.

1234
01:18:49,710 --> 01:18:52,860
Here's what I want you to do.
When you leave this office,

1235
01:18:52,980 --> 01:18:55,740
you're going to go and confront
denial head on.

1236
01:18:57,750 --> 01:19:03,300
Okay. All right. session is
over. I don't miss each other

1237
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:07,770
again next week. Okay. Have a
good weekend. Dr.

1238
01:19:07,770 --> 01:19:13,350
Schwarzenegger. hasta lavista.
Billy? Well, media

1239
01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:16,890
organizations, including NPR
have pointed out the connection

1240
01:19:16,890 --> 01:19:20,730
between the polar vortex in the
Midwest and climate change. I

1241
01:19:20,730 --> 01:19:23,640
noticed on a network news show
which are often criticized for

1242
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,000
not making that connection to
climate change, David, how have

1243
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,200
news organizations evolved in
connecting these extreme weather

1244
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:35,070
stories to the overall trend of
climate change. CBS This Morning

1245
01:19:35,070 --> 01:19:37,770
are no fools in acknowledging
that role. You've seen they're

1246
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:42,690
sort of increasing efforts by
scientists and some journalists

1247
01:19:42,690 --> 01:19:45,480
with specialty in the area to
incorporate that as the science

1248
01:19:45,480 --> 01:19:49,470
seems to be clearer about not
just the fact that the that man

1249
01:19:49,470 --> 01:19:52,230
made emissions and carbon and
the warming of the environment

1250
01:19:52,260 --> 01:19:55,770
are present having an effect,
but that you can start to make

1251
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,770
connection to individual events.
And so you're starting to hear

1252
01:19:58,770 --> 01:20:03,300
that that is a change. used to
see particularly meteorologists

1253
01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:06,960
on TVs, especially local, but
also national TV really resist

1254
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,360
talking about climate, they're
going to say we're talking about

1255
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,870
weather, climate is global
climate is a whole different

1256
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,780
layer there, it's too
unpredictable. Heck, we have

1257
01:20:15,780 --> 01:20:18,390
trouble predicting more than 10
days out. And what you've seen

1258
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:20,580
is sort of a joining of
meteorology and climate science

1259
01:20:20,580 --> 01:20:22,770
to say, yeah, these things are
interconnected in a real way.

1260
01:20:22,980 --> 01:20:25,140
And therefore, you can start to
see this in all kinds of

1261
01:20:25,140 --> 01:20:28,230
coverage from local TV, to you
know, national newspapers. And

1262
01:20:28,230 --> 01:20:32,250
then there is Brian kilmeade,
here on fox and friends on Fox

1263
01:20:32,250 --> 01:20:35,880
News listener. You know, it was
true that climate change became

1264
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,860
climate change, when global
warming wasn't adding up to

1265
01:20:37,860 --> 01:20:40,950
global warming, it was going
very cold. And then people say

1266
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:43,020
with those, the temperature went
up a couple of degrees, they go,

1267
01:20:43,020 --> 01:20:46,050
look, change it, we're still
using climate change. So anytime

1268
01:20:46,050 --> 01:20:50,340
there's a tornado, a typhoon a
flood, what did I tell you? And

1269
01:20:50,340 --> 01:20:56,190
then their head starts the
debate, David, what about that

1270
01:20:56,220 --> 01:20:59,820
have we got past that where
where we can recognize that

1271
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:05,010
global warming is the overall
trend, even if it means severe

1272
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,790
winter storms, what climate
change really means is there's

1273
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:11,430
global warming and the
atmosphere is warming and all

1274
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:13,410
kinds of other things are
warming man at the same time,

1275
01:21:13,410 --> 01:21:17,670
it's calling out all kinds of
weather, disruption and in you

1276
01:21:17,670 --> 01:21:21,300
know, spikes in variables in all
directions. You know, the real

1277
01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:23,700
thing is, in some ways, the
climate change became very much

1278
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:26,910
part of the political that
vernacular, in the 1990s, in

1279
01:21:26,910 --> 01:21:30,000
part as a result of newt
gingrich, the Congress that came

1280
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,840
to power in 1995, in opposition
to the Clinton White House

1281
01:21:33,870 --> 01:21:36,390
wanted to call it something that
seemed less threatening than

1282
01:21:36,510 --> 01:21:40,260
global warming. And they focus
group tested the phrase climate

1283
01:21:40,260 --> 01:21:42,750
change, and it seemed less
threatening to people at a time

1284
01:21:42,750 --> 01:21:44,730
they're trying to hold down
certain kinds of regulations.

1285
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,780
My name is Elizabeth Curran, I'm
Kenya resort and I live in

1286
01:21:51,780 --> 01:21:57,720
Winnipeg. Being a young person,
when I find most concerning

1287
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:02,580
about climate change, is that
like animals can lose their

1288
01:22:02,580 --> 01:22:09,270
homes like polar bears if the
ice melts. My name is Arthur I

1289
01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:14,280
am eight year and nine years
old. I live

1290
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:16,920
by Louis.

1291
01:22:20,850 --> 01:22:27,930
bit scary cuz I live near the
ocean. And glacier, then also

1292
01:22:27,930 --> 01:22:33,450
we'll make the water go close to
my house. My name is Ben museo.

1293
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,090
I am 15. And I live in Montreal,
Quebec.

1294
01:22:37,529 --> 01:22:39,989
I think that it's time for the
governments to do big things.

1295
01:22:39,989 --> 01:22:43,829
But just because just because
the government are doing big

1296
01:22:43,829 --> 01:22:46,919
things doesn't mean that people
should stop doing small things

1297
01:22:47,339 --> 01:22:48,539
that everyone should just,

1298
01:22:49,890 --> 01:22:54,870
you know, without necessarily
sacrificing everything yet. Just

1299
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:59,490
do what they can to reduce the
footprint and help us not be

1300
01:22:59,490 --> 01:22:59,940
doomed.

1301
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:04,140
My name is myalgia stout. I'm 12
years old, and I live in

1302
01:23:04,140 --> 01:23:04,620
Winnipeg.

1303
01:23:06,330 --> 01:23:08,790
The thing that scares me the
most of a climate change is

1304
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:09,510
literally

1305
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:10,170
everything.

1306
01:23:10,530 --> 01:23:15,120
It's terrifying. It's, it's kind
of pushed to the side. And it's

1307
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,630
just not knowing anything about
it is kind of what scares me

1308
01:23:18,630 --> 01:23:23,160
about it. And just knowing that
it's gonna kill us. If we don't

1309
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,860
do anything, which we're not
doing anything. That's the scary

1310
01:23:25,860 --> 01:23:31,080
part to me. My name is Patrick.
I'm 10 years old. And I was born

1311
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:36,810
in China. But now I live in
Vancouver. Young children will

1312
01:23:36,870 --> 01:23:44,940
experience far worse than the
people living right now. Also

1313
01:23:44,940 --> 01:23:48,360
scares me that floods,
hurricanes and other natural

1314
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:55,290
disasters are way more likely
than in the past five years. I

1315
01:23:55,290 --> 01:23:59,430
think grownups should think that
we actually shouldn't make an

1316
01:23:59,430 --> 01:24:02,610
impact and not just sit back and
let it happen.

1317
01:24:20,010 --> 01:24:23,490
Well, a great example is the
Victory Gardens. So during World

1318
01:24:23,490 --> 01:24:27,450
War 240 percent of American
vegetables were grown at home in

1319
01:24:27,450 --> 01:24:31,800
the front and backyard, by the
people that ate them, right. We

1320
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:37,530
can farm our lawns and have
community farms were so which

1321
01:24:37,530 --> 01:24:42,120
increases, you know, local food
security. And also, you know,

1322
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:46,200
you don't have emissions from
transportation, but more

1323
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:52,260
generally programs like
transitioning industry, right so

1324
01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:58,110
the United States banned the
production of new consumer

1325
01:24:58,110 --> 01:25:02,400
automobiles because they said We
need all of that automobile

1326
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:07,110
factory capacity to create our
tanks and planes and machine

1327
01:25:07,110 --> 01:25:12,630
guns. And so no more no more
consumer car production stop

1328
01:25:12,630 --> 01:25:15,210
period. Sorry. It's a
fundamentally different

1329
01:25:15,210 --> 01:25:21,060
mentality. When you get into the
mode of we faced an existential

1330
01:25:21,060 --> 01:25:25,200
threat, everything is on the
line. And, you know, so the

1331
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,810
government is going to do
everything that it can, the

1332
01:25:27,810 --> 01:25:31,860
government should spend without
limit to save as much life as

1333
01:25:31,860 --> 01:25:35,340
possible. My name is Deborah
Halford. I'm the executive

1334
01:25:35,340 --> 01:25:38,940
director of the adaptation to
climate change team at Simon

1335
01:25:38,940 --> 01:25:40,620
Fraser University in Vancouver.

1336
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:46,560
A low carbon resilient future is
a beautiful one, a lot less

1337
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:51,990
noisy, polluting cars, filling
up most of our urban downtown

1338
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:57,570
areas, more parks, more areas
for kids to play more places for

1339
01:25:57,570 --> 01:26:01,770
people to grow food, more shared
spaces, more places where people

1340
01:26:01,770 --> 01:26:05,460
can come together and enjoy
their environment.

1341
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,750
I heard a very interesting
presentation from a woman who

1342
01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:12,960
works with small children
recently. And so she asks them

1343
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,910
to draw, she says, if we carry
on, and we're how we're living

1344
01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:21,270
in the world, what do you think
the future looks like? And she

1345
01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:24,180
said that without fail, they
draw a world

1346
01:26:28,980 --> 01:26:29,550
in which

1347
01:26:29,970 --> 01:26:33,180
everything's on fire, and
everything is dead, and everyone

1348
01:26:33,180 --> 01:26:33,660
is sick.

1349
01:26:33,930 --> 01:26:37,290
Instead, I will ask the people
around the world to realize that

1350
01:26:37,290 --> 01:26:40,470
our political leaders have
failed us because we are facing

1351
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:44,280
an existential threat. And
there's no time to continue down

1352
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:49,110
this road of madness. rich
countries like Sweden, need to

1353
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:54,300
start reducing emissions by at
least 15% every year, to stay

1354
01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:57,060
below a two degree warming
target, you would think the

1355
01:26:57,060 --> 01:26:59,850
media and every one of our
leaders will be talking about

1356
01:26:59,850 --> 01:27:03,570
nothing else. But they never
even mentioned it. Notice,

1357
01:27:03,570 --> 01:27:06,360
hardly anyone ever mentioned
that we are in the midst of the

1358
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,770
sixth mass extinction, with up
to 200 species going extinct

1359
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:11,940
every single day.

1360
01:27:12,540 --> 01:27:18,210
But emissions by let's say 30%.
Without any. It's not like we'd

1361
01:27:18,210 --> 01:27:22,740
all have to go back to caves and
you know, live off that on fire.

1362
01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:28,140
We could have electricity and
smartphones and all that stuff.

1363
01:27:28,980 --> 01:27:32,460
Which would buy us probably
another 2030 years for that

1364
01:27:32,490 --> 01:27:35,520
technological breakthrough.
that's necessary. The reason we

1365
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,320
don't do it is because

1366
01:27:39,180 --> 01:27:41,100
we are still

1367
01:27:42,750 --> 01:27:44,670
confused, blind.

1368
01:27:46,260 --> 01:27:49,830
shrouded with pain, anger.

1369
01:27:51,239 --> 01:27:52,409
racism.

1370
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:56,100
Mommy issues

1371
01:27:57,899 --> 01:27:58,889
Yeah, I'm in

1372
01:28:00,870 --> 01:28:07,500
it. We are we are fraught with
stuff.

1373
01:28:09,210 --> 01:28:09,990
And

1374
01:28:11,670 --> 01:28:17,250
and so if that's the case, then
the single most important thing

1375
01:28:17,250 --> 01:28:18,330
that we have to invest in

1376
01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:26,700
it is not all and look I'm a
huge supporter of science and

1377
01:28:26,790 --> 01:28:29,400
technological research and
social science and

1378
01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:37,380
evidence based learning and all
that good stuff. I'm people call

1379
01:28:37,380 --> 01:28:40,950
me Spock for a reason. I believe
in reason and logic and all

1380
01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:44,640
these enlightenment values. But
the thing that really, we have

1381
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:49,860
to invest in is people. We got
to get people to figure out how

1382
01:28:49,890 --> 01:28:51,120
they work together.

1383
01:28:52,770 --> 01:28:53,580
In a

1384
01:28:56,729 --> 01:28:59,939
how do we get people to work
together in a cooperative,

1385
01:29:01,079 --> 01:29:02,909
thoughtful, constructive way.

1386
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:07,020
on Capitol Hill police arrested
51 Youth climate activists

1387
01:29:07,020 --> 01:29:11,370
Tuesday, as they held a non
violent sit in protest out

1388
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:15,450
inside the Office of House
Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi

1389
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:20,550
demanding a green new deal and
urgent action on climate change.

1390
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:25,260
Philadelphia activists, Sophia
ziaja of the sunrise movement

1391
01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:28,350
said she's compelled to act
because of the historic

1392
01:29:28,350 --> 01:29:31,950
wildfires raging and Pelosi is
home state of California.

1393
01:29:32,669 --> 01:29:36,779
Back in Nancy Pelosi, his home
state 42 people were just burned

1394
01:29:36,809 --> 01:29:40,109
alive by wildfires that are
described as fire tsunamis

1395
01:29:40,889 --> 01:29:45,059
literally do not know how to
fight. And she's come to that

1396
01:29:45,059 --> 01:29:49,139
crisis with saying that she's
going to revive a committee to

1397
01:29:49,139 --> 01:29:52,229
talk about evidence of climate
change that maybe would have

1398
01:29:52,229 --> 01:29:56,759
been helpful back in 1968 when
warned about climate change, but

1399
01:29:56,759 --> 01:29:59,969
then today is so so far from

1400
01:30:01,589 --> 01:30:05,039
A new study says global warming
will cause a beer shortage

1401
01:30:05,039 --> 01:30:09,929
because barley is sensitive to
extreme drought. And he could

1402
01:30:09,929 --> 01:30:13,109
not hope anymore that this study
is wrong. A co author of the

1403
01:30:13,109 --> 01:30:15,959
study published Monday in the
journal Nature plant said the

1404
01:30:15,959 --> 01:30:18,839
study is trying to show that
climate change will impact your

1405
01:30:18,839 --> 01:30:24,029
quality of life. Is this the
future of food? here in Silicon

1406
01:30:24,029 --> 01:30:27,419
Valley, scientists have taken
cells plucked from the feathers

1407
01:30:27,419 --> 01:30:30,899
of a chicken. And we're using
them to grow meat in this high

1408
01:30:30,899 --> 01:30:35,069
tech laboratory. Which means the
chicken I'm about to eat is

1409
01:30:35,219 --> 01:30:40,709
weirdly still alive. So there we
have it are just chicken

1410
01:30:40,709 --> 01:30:44,549
nuggets. With a little bit of
Chipotle a ranch dipping sauce

1411
01:30:44,549 --> 01:30:48,479
there. Yeah, I'm gonna dip it in
the sauce. Take a bite. It's

1412
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:54,239
really tasty. It tastes like
chicken. Chicken. Yeah. Although

1413
01:30:54,239 --> 01:30:58,109
the taste is very similar. The
physicality the feel of it in

1414
01:30:58,109 --> 01:31:00,149
your mouth is slightly
different. Right? And you know,

1415
01:31:00,149 --> 01:31:02,639
there are ways we can we can you
know, work on getting that

1416
01:31:02,639 --> 01:31:06,089
together. I think, you know,
there's, like I said, finding

1417
01:31:06,089 --> 01:31:09,299
things in the in the animal
kingdom or 3d printing

1418
01:31:09,299 --> 01:31:11,759
scaffolding. So there's a lot of
different ways we can do it.

1419
01:31:12,779 --> 01:31:15,929
This firm says its chicken will
be on a restaurant menu by the

1420
01:31:15,929 --> 01:31:19,529
end of this year, probably
somewhere in Asia. This is the

1421
01:31:19,529 --> 01:31:23,759
transition away from raising and
confining animals in the way we

1422
01:31:23,759 --> 01:31:28,469
do. Now the reality is 99% of
all the meat weed comes from

1423
01:31:28,469 --> 01:31:31,259
places that if we looked inside,
we wouldn't be that proud of

1424
01:31:31,349 --> 01:31:34,829
meat production is just as
responsible for carbon emissions

1425
01:31:34,829 --> 01:31:37,889
and climate change. As all the
cars we have on the street

1426
01:31:37,889 --> 01:31:43,379
today. Will anyone actually want
to reset, ranchers have concerns

1427
01:31:43,379 --> 01:31:47,309
to Missouri has already banned
the use of the word meat to

1428
01:31:47,309 --> 01:31:51,869
label lab grown product. Whoa,
whatever it's called, with

1429
01:31:51,869 --> 01:31:55,769
America's largest meat processor
now investing in lab grown meat.

1430
01:31:56,039 --> 01:32:00,059
We may be about to see a new
agricultural revolution. What is

1431
01:32:00,059 --> 01:32:03,239
the thing that worries you the
most about climate? We've had

1432
01:32:03,239 --> 01:32:07,949
relatively stable climate, no
ice ages, no hot spells. And

1433
01:32:07,949 --> 01:32:12,119
we've had these ice caps that
have remained primarily in

1434
01:32:12,119 --> 01:32:16,349
Antarctica and Greenland. Oh my
gosh, if you melt those ice

1435
01:32:16,349 --> 01:32:19,889
sheets in Greenland and
Antarctica, the water levels

1436
01:32:19,889 --> 01:32:24,539
will rise and come to the level
of the Statue of Liberty's

1437
01:32:24,539 --> 01:32:32,129
elbow. Okay. I am Karen Phillips
wants to change climate then

1438
01:32:32,249 --> 01:32:35,789
read history. Go back a little
bit read history has been

1439
01:32:35,789 --> 01:32:38,819
validated by the geology. It's
been validated by so many

1440
01:32:38,819 --> 01:32:43,979
proxies. And what we see is
climate always changes. I'm not

1441
01:32:43,979 --> 01:32:48,239
a climate denier. It's the
people who want to have global

1442
01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:52,079
warming deny the climate
changes. They deny what we have

1443
01:32:52,079 --> 01:32:56,969
known for 1000s of years climate
always changes. Some people

1444
01:32:56,969 --> 01:33:01,139
evidently can still deny the
reality is a little bit harder

1445
01:33:01,289 --> 01:33:06,539
to deny the 3000 deaths in
Puerto Rico from Hurricane Maria

1446
01:33:06,539 --> 01:33:15,779
last year. Come on. How far down
that rabbit hole are people

1447
01:33:15,779 --> 01:33:20,849
gonna follow? This is utter
insanity. We have to wake up we

1448
01:33:20,849 --> 01:33:25,169
are alive in this moment. We are
awake. I am a geologist and

1449
01:33:25,169 --> 01:33:28,709
geophysicist. I have a
bachelor's degree in geology

1450
01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:32,519
from Indiana University, and a
PhD in geophysics from the

1451
01:33:32,519 --> 01:33:37,559
University of Utah. My field of
specialization in geophysics is

1452
01:33:37,559 --> 01:33:40,799
temperature and heat flow. In
recent years, I've turned my

1453
01:33:40,799 --> 01:33:45,839
studies to the history and
philosophy of science. In 1995,

1454
01:33:45,839 --> 01:33:49,829
I published a short paper in the
academic journal Science. in

1455
01:33:49,829 --> 01:33:52,799
that study, I reviewed how
borehole temperature data

1456
01:33:53,069 --> 01:33:57,269
recorded a warming of about one
degree Celsius in North America

1457
01:33:57,449 --> 01:34:02,909
over the last 100 to 150 years.
The week the article appeared, I

1458
01:34:02,909 --> 01:34:07,589
was contacted by a reporter for
National Public Radio, he

1459
01:34:07,589 --> 01:34:11,399
offered to interview me, but
only if I would say that the

1460
01:34:11,399 --> 01:34:15,269
warming was due to human
activity. When I refuse to do so

1461
01:34:15,299 --> 01:34:20,009
he hung up on me. I had another
interesting experience. Around

1462
01:34:20,009 --> 01:34:23,819
the time my paper in science was
published. I received an

1463
01:34:23,819 --> 01:34:27,689
astonishing email from a major
researcher in the area of

1464
01:34:27,689 --> 01:34:32,549
climate change. He said, quote,
we have to get rid of the

1465
01:34:32,549 --> 01:34:36,959
medieval warm period, unquote.
The medieval warm period was a

1466
01:34:36,959 --> 01:34:41,999
time of unusually warm weather
that began around 1000 ad and

1467
01:34:41,999 --> 01:34:46,169
persisted until a cold period
known as Little Ice Age to a

1468
01:34:46,169 --> 01:34:50,849
cold in the 14th century. warmer
climate brought a remarkable

1469
01:34:50,849 --> 01:34:55,589
souring of prosperity, knowledge
and art to Europe during the

1470
01:34:55,589 --> 01:34:56,609
high Middle Ages.

1471
01:34:58,140 --> 01:35:01,590
The existence of the middle of a
war Period had been recognized

1472
01:35:01,590 --> 01:35:05,490
in the scientific literature for
decades. But now it was a major

1473
01:35:05,490 --> 01:35:08,400
embarrassment. To those
maintaining that the 20th

1474
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:12,750
century warming was truly
anomalous, had to quote the

1475
01:35:12,750 --> 01:35:18,330
garden reserve unquote. In 1769.
Joseph Priestley warned the

1476
01:35:18,330 --> 01:35:21,960
scientists are really attached
to a favorite hypothesis would

1477
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:27,630
not hesitate to warp the whole
course of nature. In 1999,

1478
01:35:27,630 --> 01:35:31,290
Michael Mian and his colleagues
published a reconstruction of

1479
01:35:31,290 --> 01:35:34,680
past temperature in which the
medieval warm period simply

1480
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:38,880
vanished. This unique estimate
became known as the hockey stick

1481
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:42,870
because of the shape of the
temperature graph. Normally, in

1482
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:46,650
science, when you have a novel
result that appears to overturn

1483
01:35:46,650 --> 01:35:50,040
previous work, you have to
demonstrate why the earlier work

1484
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:54,810
was wrong. But the work of man
and his colleagues was initially

1485
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,900
accepted uncritically, even
though it contradicted the

1486
01:35:57,900 --> 01:36:01,320
results of more than 100
previous studies. Other

1487
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,200
researchers have since
reaffirmed that the medieval

1488
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:08,760
warm period was both warm and
global in its extent. There is

1489
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:12,180
an overwhelming bias today in
the media regarding the issue of

1490
01:36:12,180 --> 01:36:15,990
global warming. In the past two
years, this bias has bloomed

1491
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:20,760
into an irrational hysteria.
Every natural disaster that

1492
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:25,530
occurs is now linked with global
warming, no matter how tenuous

1493
01:36:25,710 --> 01:36:29,640
or impossible the connection. As
a result, the public has become

1494
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,540
vastly missing misinformed. On
this and other environmental

1495
01:36:33,540 --> 01:36:37,560
issues. Earth climate system is
complex and poorly understood.

1496
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,800
But we do know that throughout
human history, warmer

1497
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,830
temperatures have been
associated with more stable

1498
01:36:43,830 --> 01:36:47,850
climates, and increased human
health and prosperity. colder

1499
01:36:47,850 --> 01:36:50,160
temperatures have been
correlated with climatic

1500
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:54,990
instability, famine, and
increased human mortality. The

1501
01:36:54,990 --> 01:36:59,400
amount of climatic warming that
has taken place in the past 150

1502
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:03,570
years is poorly constrained, and
its cause human or natural is

1503
01:37:03,570 --> 01:37:07,530
unknown. There is no sound
scientific basis for predicting

1504
01:37:07,530 --> 01:37:11,460
future climate change with any
degree of certainty. According

1505
01:37:11,460 --> 01:37:15,810
to UK Government scientist on
Monday, the traditional British

1506
01:37:15,810 --> 01:37:20,190
meal of fish and chips may soon
need to be replaced due to

1507
01:37:20,190 --> 01:37:24,210
global climate change. cod and
Haddock. Two of the most

1508
01:37:24,210 --> 01:37:28,050
commonly used fish for the
popular dish are shifting

1509
01:37:28,050 --> 01:37:32,250
northward because of the warming
sea temperatures. According to

1510
01:37:32,250 --> 01:37:35,640
Britain's center for the
environment, new species like

1511
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,450
squid and red mullet are moving
into British waters from the

1512
01:37:39,450 --> 01:37:44,520
south. In an interview with the
BBC, john pinegar, the program

1513
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:48,900
director for marine climate
change said I think people are

1514
01:37:48,900 --> 01:37:52,410
slowly becoming more
adventurous. And I think people

1515
01:37:52,410 --> 01:37:56,400
should learn to eat what we're
catching around our own waters.

1516
01:37:56,670 --> 01:38:01,740
In the long term, we will need
to adapt our diets in the

1517
01:38:01,740 --> 01:38:04,560
totally different category of
climate science. It was a big

1518
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,440
study this week. And usually
when climate studies come out,

1519
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:09,540
we're looking at environmental
impacts. What was interesting

1520
01:38:09,540 --> 01:38:12,090
about this one was it was
looking at economic impact. Tell

1521
01:38:12,090 --> 01:38:14,550
us a little bit about that.
Well, this one is a very

1522
01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:18,390
impressive study on climate
change. Scientists in the

1523
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:22,200
climate realm teamed up with
economists, the dismal science

1524
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,590
meeting climate science, if you
will. And they looked at the

1525
01:38:25,620 --> 01:38:28,470
economic impacts of climate
change as you project out to the

1526
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:31,860
future. And perhaps the most
interesting finding was that

1527
01:38:31,860 --> 01:38:35,640
climate change will hit
different socio economic classes

1528
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,910
differently. Here's Berkeley
scientist and lead author of the

1529
01:38:38,910 --> 01:38:42,540
study Solomon Shang. In the
south where it's hot, and along

1530
01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:45,480
the coast, we might see
populations losing the

1531
01:38:45,480 --> 01:38:48,660
equivalent of 20% of their
income. Whereas in the cooler

1532
01:38:48,660 --> 01:38:51,540
northern and western regions, we
actually see that populations

1533
01:38:51,540 --> 01:38:54,720
might benefit a little bit
because the North is tends to be

1534
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,870
wealthier, and the South tends
to be poorer. What we see is

1535
01:38:57,870 --> 01:39:00,870
that in the future climate
change is going to increase

1536
01:39:00,930 --> 01:39:03,930
economic inequality within the
United States. Now if the

1537
01:39:03,930 --> 01:39:06,720
President is going to walk away
from this agreement, but it

1538
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,720
looks like he is going to I know
you agree with that, so help me

1539
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:14,310
understand make the best case
why he should leave Paris? Well,

1540
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:16,950
I think the key point to
understand is that the Paris

1541
01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:20,490
treaty has no discernible impact
on global average temperature,

1542
01:39:20,490 --> 01:39:22,890
and therefore the alleged
climate benefits are illusory.

1543
01:39:22,890 --> 01:39:25,590
This is an agreement that if
every country met its

1544
01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:28,410
obligations, according to the
conventional EPA model would

1545
01:39:28,410 --> 01:39:30,960
reduce global average
temperature less than two tenths

1546
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,810
of a degree in the year 2100.
But of course, these countries

1547
01:39:33,810 --> 01:39:36,150
are mostly not meeting their
obligations we just heard from

1548
01:39:36,150 --> 01:39:39,090
Germany, their emissions are up
in each of the last two years,

1549
01:39:39,090 --> 01:39:41,310
the Philippines have already
withdrawn from this agreement.

1550
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:43,920
and India, which is allowed to
increase emissions under this

1551
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,200
Agreement is building too many
coal plants even meet their

1552
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:49,470
target, they're gonna go well
above it. The US commitment

1553
01:39:49,650 --> 01:39:52,740
would only avert an increase in
temperature of about 15

1554
01:39:52,740 --> 01:39:56,160
thousandths of a degree by the
year 2100. So there's really not

1555
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,680
much upside here but there's
tremendous downside because this

1556
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:02,100
agreement locks in Those EPA
regulations you were just

1557
01:40:02,100 --> 01:40:03,990
talking about in the
introduction, the Clean Power

1558
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:06,780
Plan, which increased
electricity prices, about 20 to

1559
01:40:06,780 --> 01:40:10,500
30%, that has a very negative
impact on consumers across this

1560
01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:13,470
country with no benefit to show
for it. And it also commits the

1561
01:40:13,470 --> 01:40:17,220
American taxpayer to pay the
lion's share of the $100 billion

1562
01:40:17,580 --> 01:40:21,090
per year Green Climate Fund a
direct wealth transfer to the

1563
01:40:21,090 --> 01:40:23,040
rest of the world. And so I
think the reason the rest of

1564
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,040
world likes this deal so much is
that the United States cripples

1565
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,310
itself economically, with
regulations, and then it pays

1566
01:40:29,310 --> 01:40:31,980
the rest of the world for the
privilege of doing so. Increased

1567
01:40:31,980 --> 01:40:34,920
foreign aid to me, that's not
leadership. That's American

1568
01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:38,790
loser ship. And right, let me
get let me get Michael

1569
01:40:38,790 --> 01:40:41,400
Oppenheimer here on this.
There's a lot to unpack there.

1570
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,670
But the substantive criticism
that even people who favor the

1571
01:40:44,670 --> 01:40:48,600
Paris Agreement are it is a
voluntary agreement. There are

1572
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,380
no real binding commitments. Why
do you think it is such a great

1573
01:40:52,380 --> 01:40:55,650
deal that we ought to stay in
it? The Paris Agreement isn't

1574
01:40:55,650 --> 01:40:59,310
perfect, but it's an important
first step. And that's why the

1575
01:40:59,460 --> 01:41:02,760
statements of Mr. Kirpan are
totally out of context. In fact,

1576
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:06,840
what's happening is, global
emissions of carbon dioxide have

1577
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,600
not increased, in fact decreased
a little over the last three

1578
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,110
years. For the first time while
the global economy was growing,

1579
01:41:13,110 --> 01:41:16,680
because countries are moving to
the new energy sources, it would

1580
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:20,460
be foolish to pull out of this
agreement, because number one,

1581
01:41:20,460 --> 01:41:24,030
it would do great harm to our
relations with our allies around

1582
01:41:24,030 --> 01:41:30,030
the world. And secondly, it
would condemn the US, the world

1583
01:41:30,420 --> 01:41:34,140
and future generations, our own
children to a world with an

1584
01:41:34,140 --> 01:41:37,230
unacceptable level of climate
change. And it's a real pity

1585
01:41:37,260 --> 01:41:41,610
a growing body of research shows
climate change is bad, not just

1586
01:41:41,610 --> 01:41:45,060
for the planet, but for our
mental health. People who've

1587
01:41:45,060 --> 01:41:48,750
lived through weather disasters
are more prone to depression,

1588
01:41:48,780 --> 01:41:52,680
suicide, post traumatic stress,
psychologists see more subtle

1589
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:56,970
effects too. Just thinking about
the impact of a shifting climate

1590
01:41:56,970 --> 01:41:59,850
can make you feel anxious and
overwhelmed. This group of

1591
01:41:59,850 --> 01:42:03,000
strangers started coming
together last year, they ranged

1592
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,700
from millennials to
grandparents, Dick Meyer used to

1593
01:42:05,700 --> 01:42:08,700
be skeptical about climate
change. As the group sits in a

1594
01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:09,840
circle in the living room,

1595
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:13,140
he tells why the problem made
him emotional. And I think I

1596
01:42:13,140 --> 01:42:17,910
came to the conclusion that it
was the loss of the future. The

1597
01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:22,500
future that I had lived, knowing
was going to be there, all of a

1598
01:42:22,500 --> 01:42:27,210
sudden is gone. And that is
really disorienting.

1599
01:42:27,540 --> 01:42:27,960
At some

1600
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:31,980
point, you come to a conclusion,
if you're paying attention, I

1601
01:42:31,980 --> 01:42:35,880
think where you just say, Whoa,
this is serious. And then you

1602
01:42:35,940 --> 01:42:38,040
you suffer for a while you
grieve.

1603
01:42:38,159 --> 01:42:40,469
Laura Schmidt was also
struggling with the idea for

1604
01:42:40,469 --> 01:42:43,379
this group first came to her.
She was an undergrad then

1605
01:42:43,379 --> 01:42:46,829
studying species extinction and
melting ice caps, the human

1606
01:42:46,829 --> 01:42:49,619
impacts of all that made her
feel heartsick, and powerless.

1607
01:42:50,039 --> 01:42:53,219
Then Schmidt remembered the 12
steps that self help groups use

1608
01:42:53,219 --> 01:42:57,119
for problems like drugs and over
drinking, I have been an avid

1609
01:42:57,149 --> 01:42:59,519
participant in an Al anon group,
the adult children of

1610
01:42:59,519 --> 01:43:03,959
alcoholics. And I realized that
that group can be co opted

1611
01:43:03,989 --> 01:43:07,409
Schmid read her own steps nine
of them. The first is the

1612
01:43:07,409 --> 01:43:11,219
standard admit there's a
problem. It's a lot about

1613
01:43:11,249 --> 01:43:15,809
understanding your power and
what you're capable of, but also

1614
01:43:15,809 --> 01:43:18,929
your limitations as a single
human being on this planet. Yes,

1615
01:43:18,929 --> 01:43:23,009
people are anxious. We have
climate anxiety all over the

1616
01:43:23,009 --> 01:43:26,789
place. These events Austrian is
a washington dc psychiatrist and

1617
01:43:26,789 --> 01:43:32,399
climate activist every single
day, we are told about what

1618
01:43:32,399 --> 01:43:37,799
disasters are just around the
corner. And this is being

1619
01:43:37,799 --> 01:43:43,019
processed whether we know it
consciously or not. In Utah,

1620
01:43:43,229 --> 01:43:46,049
Ellie herbertson says she comes
to these meetings to mourn the

1621
01:43:46,049 --> 01:43:49,619
past and reimagine her kid's
future. We don't do chit chat.

1622
01:43:49,649 --> 01:43:54,689
We go right to like, what's on
your heart and I cry like every

1623
01:43:54,689 --> 01:43:58,049
week, which is no, no big, no
big thing for me. I'm a huge

1624
01:43:58,049 --> 01:44:01,319
crier, but still like feeling
like I can do that with almost

1625
01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:03,959
complete strangers is amazing.

1626
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:06,510
You know, the atmosphere is a
very thin shell around the

1627
01:44:06,510 --> 01:44:11,250
planet, we're putting 110
million tonnes a day of manmade

1628
01:44:11,250 --> 01:44:15,240
heat trapping pollution. And
it's raising temperatures quite

1629
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:17,760
dramatically melting all the
eyes raising sea level,

1630
01:44:18,210 --> 01:44:20,940
evaporating much more water off
the oceans causing these

1631
01:44:20,940 --> 01:44:24,750
incredible downpours such as the
ones the UK has been

1632
01:44:24,750 --> 01:44:29,610
experiencing in the last few
years. These climate related

1633
01:44:29,610 --> 01:44:33,600
extreme weather events have
gotten much more frequent and

1634
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:37,950
much more severe just in the
last just since the first movie

1635
01:44:37,950 --> 01:44:43,560
came out, and the spread of
tropical diseases into higher

1636
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:49,230
latitudes and deeper droughts as
well political disruptions. But

1637
01:44:49,230 --> 01:44:52,470
for all of the shocking
consequences of the climate

1638
01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:58,500
crisis, this movie is extremely
hopeful because there are also

1639
01:44:58,500 --> 01:45:03,390
shocking players alee shocking
developments in the field of

1640
01:45:03,390 --> 01:45:09,000
technology where businesses have
now found that just as with you

1641
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,510
know, computer chips came down
so dramatically in price even as

1642
01:45:12,510 --> 01:45:16,620
the computers got faster and
better mobile phones flat screen

1643
01:45:16,620 --> 01:45:20,850
TVs, turns out solar panels and
windmills and battery storage

1644
01:45:20,850 --> 01:45:24,390
the same way. And now it's
getting cheaper to produce

1645
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:28,500
electricity, electricity from
renewable sources than from

1646
01:45:28,500 --> 01:45:33,090
burning dirty coal or gas or
oil. And so we have the

1647
01:45:33,090 --> 01:45:36,900
solutions available to us. I'm a
geologist.

1648
01:45:38,250 --> 01:45:42,330
And the one thing that we miss
out on in looking at climate

1649
01:45:42,330 --> 01:45:48,630
change is the past. climates
have always changed. climate

1650
01:45:48,630 --> 01:45:53,430
changes in the past had been
greater and faster than anything

1651
01:45:53,460 --> 01:45:58,680
we experienced in our lifetime.
And sea levels have always

1652
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:02,250
changed, not by the modest
couple of millimeters that

1653
01:46:02,250 --> 01:46:05,700
people are having connections
about. We've had in the past sea

1654
01:46:05,700 --> 01:46:10,770
level changes of only 1500
meters. That's a sea level

1655
01:46:10,770 --> 01:46:15,810
challenge. And if we look back
in the history of time, the

1656
01:46:15,810 --> 01:46:20,070
atmosphere once had a very large
amount of carbon dioxide in it.

1657
01:46:20,850 --> 01:46:26,250
It's now got less than point 04
percent. Where did that carbon

1658
01:46:26,250 --> 01:46:31,350
dioxide go to it we need to
chalk limestone shells and love

1659
01:46:32,010 --> 01:46:35,670
and we've been sequestering
carbon dioxide out of the

1660
01:46:35,670 --> 01:46:42,990
atmosphere for only 10,000 to
500 million years. This planet

1661
01:46:43,020 --> 01:46:47,400
has been D gassing carbon
dioxide since it first formed on

1662
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:53,730
that Thursday 4560 7 billion
years ago. Carbon dioxide is a

1663
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:57,990
natural gas. It has dominated
the atmosphere for an

1664
01:46:57,990 --> 01:47:02,790
extraordinary long period of
time, and we now are at a

1665
01:47:02,790 --> 01:47:06,690
dangerously low level. If we
have the amount of carbon

1666
01:47:06,690 --> 01:47:10,680
dioxide in the atmosphere, we
would have no terrestrial

1667
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:16,710
plants. Carbon dioxide is plant
food. It is not a pollutant to

1668
01:47:16,710 --> 01:47:21,390
use words like pollution with
carbon dioxide is misleading and

1669
01:47:21,390 --> 01:47:22,020
deceptive.

1670
01:47:22,319 --> 01:47:25,409
The United Nations says there
will be two and a half billion

1671
01:47:25,409 --> 01:47:29,069
more people on the planet by
2050. Each will likely create

1672
01:47:29,069 --> 01:47:31,919
more carbon emissions and
scientists say those emissions

1673
01:47:31,919 --> 01:47:35,939
could reach a dangerous tipping
point by mid century. To avoid a

1674
01:47:35,939 --> 01:47:40,589
disaster. One man is proposing a
radical idea is NPR Jennifer

1675
01:47:40,589 --> 01:47:43,709
Levin reports. He aims to
convince people to have fewer

1676
01:47:43,709 --> 01:47:47,669
children. Travis reader is not a
climate scientist. He's a

1677
01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:50,939
philosopher with the Berman
Institute of bioethics at Johns

1678
01:47:50,939 --> 01:47:54,899
Hopkins. And his arguments are
moral. When we meet he's in a

1679
01:47:54,899 --> 01:47:58,139
Tweety jacket and sneakers
speaking to several dozen

1680
01:47:58,139 --> 01:48:00,359
students at James Madison
University.

1681
01:48:00,390 --> 01:48:02,670
How old are you going to be in
2036? Are you thinking about

1682
01:48:02,670 --> 01:48:03,210
having kids?

1683
01:48:03,300 --> 01:48:06,720
How old are your kids going to
be in 2036? Dangerous climate

1684
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:10,470
change will be happening by then
he says, and the world's poorest

1685
01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:13,800
nations will suffer most, even
though rich countries like the

1686
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:17,160
US create far more carbon
emissions per capita.

1687
01:48:17,279 --> 01:48:20,669
So here's what's happening when
I have a kid, I'm creating a

1688
01:48:20,669 --> 01:48:24,209
being who's doing the much
greater proportion of the

1689
01:48:24,209 --> 01:48:27,539
contribution to the harm, and
she's not going to suffer for

1690
01:48:27,539 --> 01:48:30,569
it, the other kid is and that
seems unfair.

1691
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:31,620
What about that big

1692
01:48:31,620 --> 01:48:35,400
climate deal in Paris? reader
tell students it doesn't cut

1693
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:39,300
emissions nearly enough to avoid
a catastrophic tipping point.

1694
01:48:39,660 --> 01:48:43,230
But this might, he cites a study
that finds reducing global

1695
01:48:43,230 --> 01:48:47,070
fertility by just half a child
per woman could have a huge

1696
01:48:47,070 --> 01:48:52,800
impact. If it happens soon. Like
many people watching where I was

1697
01:48:52,830 --> 01:48:57,540
overseas, I admit that I like
them was shocked by the

1698
01:48:57,540 --> 01:49:01,440
exceptionally high bar put
before one candidate and the

1699
01:49:01,440 --> 01:49:05,820
exceptionally low bar put before
another candidate. It also

1700
01:49:05,820 --> 01:49:09,810
appeared that much of the press,
much of the media was tying

1701
01:49:09,810 --> 01:49:13,920
itself in knots trying to
differentiate between balance

1702
01:49:14,130 --> 01:49:19,500
between objectivity, neutrality,
and crucially, the truth. We

1703
01:49:19,500 --> 01:49:23,790
cannot continue the old
paradigm. We cannot, for

1704
01:49:23,790 --> 01:49:28,140
instance, keep saying like it
was over global warming, where

1705
01:49:28,140 --> 01:49:33,840
99.9% of the science the
empirical facts, the evidence is

1706
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:39,300
given equal play with the tiny
minority of deniers. I learned a

1707
01:49:39,300 --> 01:49:44,160
long, long time ago when I was
covering the genocide and ethnic

1708
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,660
cleansing in Bosnia, never to
equate victim and aggressor

1709
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:54,150
never to create a false moral of
factual equivalence. Because

1710
01:49:54,150 --> 01:49:59,190
then if you do particularly in
situations like that you are

1711
01:49:59,190 --> 01:50:03,000
party and accomplice to the most
unspeakable crimes and

1712
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:08,430
consequences. So I believe in
being truthful, not neutral. And

1713
01:50:08,430 --> 01:50:13,680
I believe we must stop by
analyzing the truth. For some

1714
01:50:13,740 --> 01:50:19,020
odd reason, the major driver of
climate is that great ball of

1715
01:50:19,020 --> 01:50:21,480
heat in the sky, which would
call the sun.

1716
01:50:22,979 --> 01:50:27,389
You heard of the first, it's
really quite unusual. And we

1717
01:50:27,389 --> 01:50:31,139
change our distance from the
Sun. Every 100,000 years, our

1718
01:50:31,139 --> 01:50:36,029
orbit changes from elliptical to
circular. And we have a cycle of

1719
01:50:36,029 --> 01:50:39,689
90,000 years of cold and 10,000
years of war when one of those

1720
01:50:39,689 --> 01:50:43,499
warm cycles and it'd be 43,000
years, the access to the earth

1721
01:50:43,499 --> 01:50:46,769
changes a little bit. And every
21,000 years, we get a bit of a

1722
01:50:46,769 --> 01:50:50,339
wobble. Each of those orbital
events put us further from the

1723
01:50:50,339 --> 01:50:56,489
sun. Every now and then, we get
bombarded by cosmic rays coming

1724
01:50:56,489 --> 01:50:59,819
from a supernatural eruption
somewhere out there. And if the

1725
01:50:59,819 --> 01:51:04,499
sun's magnetic field cannot
drive these away, we start to

1726
01:51:04,499 --> 01:51:09,359
form low level clouds, we've got
extremely good evidence that

1727
01:51:09,359 --> 01:51:12,779
this process has been going on
for a very long period of time.

1728
01:51:13,559 --> 01:51:17,519
Every now and then continent
start to move, and they move at

1729
01:51:17,519 --> 01:51:23,249
very rapid rates. They move back
this much every year. And at one

1730
01:51:23,249 --> 01:51:26,549
time, a continent can be over a
pole at another time it can be

1731
01:51:26,549 --> 01:51:31,079
at the equator. Those moving
continents change the major heat

1732
01:51:31,079 --> 01:51:34,499
balance on the earth. And that's
the ocean currents. The oceans

1733
01:51:34,499 --> 01:51:38,819
carry far more than the
atmosphere. Every now and then,

1734
01:51:38,909 --> 01:51:42,839
because of major geological
processes. We'll get a great

1735
01:51:42,839 --> 01:51:47,939
boat on the ocean floor of new
volcanic rock that changes ocean

1736
01:51:47,939 --> 01:51:53,159
currents. Every year, we have
10,000 cubic kilometres of

1737
01:51:53,159 --> 01:51:56,669
seawater that goes through new
volcanic rocks in the ocean

1738
01:51:56,669 --> 01:52:01,919
floor that exchanges million
people in Florida, Georgia and

1739
01:52:01,919 --> 01:52:05,789
South Carolina are under
evacuation orders to discuss how

1740
01:52:05,789 --> 01:52:08,669
the role of climate change has
been largely

1741
01:52:08,670 --> 01:52:12,540
ignored in media coverage of
Hurricane Matthew. We're joined

1742
01:52:12,540 --> 01:52:15,930
now in our New York studio by
May bhuvi, Executive Director of

1743
01:52:15,990 --> 01:52:19,860
350 action, the political arm of
the climate organization 350 dot

1744
01:52:19,890 --> 01:52:25,050
org. May, it's great to have you
with us. We so often see the

1745
01:52:25,050 --> 01:52:28,830
words extreme weather and severe
weather flashing and the lower

1746
01:52:28,830 --> 01:52:32,970
thirds of the TV screens. Where
are the words climate change and

1747
01:52:32,970 --> 01:52:36,600
global warming? You're exactly
right. And Hurricane Matthew is

1748
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:40,260
unfortunately, just the latest
example of a trend where the

1749
01:52:40,260 --> 01:52:43,740
impacts of climate change, get
more serious. Politicians

1750
01:52:43,740 --> 01:52:48,120
continue to have a break and say
not nearly enough about it. We

1751
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:52,560
have unequivocal reason to know
that these kinds of storms are

1752
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,420
made worse by climate change.

1753
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:58,800
We know what they're dealing
with down there we see it time

1754
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:02,340
and again, reporters such as
myself have stood in those

1755
01:53:02,340 --> 01:53:06,150
waters and watch these people
rebuild. can anything be done.

1756
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:11,130
For us on my side of this, this
is a result of climate change,

1757
01:53:11,130 --> 01:53:13,680
right? only gonna get worse,
right? We hear this all the

1758
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:18,390
time. But isn't there are not
just about temperature, not just

1759
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:22,740
about erosion and water. But the
basic structure of this place,

1760
01:53:22,740 --> 01:53:26,550
how New Orleans from the weight
of development and how it's been

1761
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:30,210
built up, the levees is sinking
that when you're there, you

1762
01:53:30,210 --> 01:53:34,500
stand on the ground and you look
up at ships going past you in

1763
01:53:34,500 --> 01:53:39,570
the Mississippi. So either don't
have the answer to this, except

1764
01:53:39,570 --> 01:53:42,150
it's gonna get worse, almost
certainly will get worse

1765
01:53:42,150 --> 01:53:45,600
everybody. As the ocean gets
warmer, which it is getting, it

1766
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:49,620
expands. But think about the
climate change issue every day.

1767
01:53:49,980 --> 01:53:55,080
There are officials in high
office with responsibilities,

1768
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:59,010
who mocked the overwhelming
consensus of the world

1769
01:53:59,010 --> 01:54:02,940
scientists that human activities
and the release of carbon

1770
01:54:02,940 --> 01:54:10,350
dioxide and other substances are
altering our climate in profound

1771
01:54:10,350 --> 01:54:14,250
and dangerous ways. A while
back, you may have seen a United

1772
01:54:14,250 --> 01:54:19,140
States senator trotted out a
snowball during a florist speech

1773
01:54:19,140 --> 01:54:22,140
in the middle of winter as proof
that the world was not warming

1774
01:54:22,770 --> 01:54:25,470
so much of what's going on. It's
something that we have to treat

1775
01:54:25,470 --> 01:54:29,340
it as if it's a mental illness.
I believe that climate change

1776
01:54:29,340 --> 01:54:34,590
denial is a form of a website,
Martin O'Malley dot com. But you

1777
01:54:34,590 --> 01:54:37,530
know what I believe is the
biggest issue that I think you

1778
01:54:37,530 --> 01:54:39,990
should be concerned about as a
young person who has more time

1779
01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:48,600
on this planet than I do. And
that is climate change. Climate

1780
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:52,590
change is the greatest business
opportunity to come to the

1781
01:54:52,590 --> 01:54:56,760
United States in 100 years, and
I am the first candidate in

1782
01:54:56,760 --> 01:55:00,780
either party to put forward a
plan to move us to a 100 percent

1783
01:55:01,050 --> 01:55:06,090
clean electric energy grid by
2050 and create 5 million jobs

1784
01:55:06,150 --> 01:55:09,420
along the way. And this is
another one of those instances

1785
01:55:09,420 --> 01:55:13,110
Chris, where I was pointing the
way forward. Look at what you

1786
01:55:13,110 --> 01:55:17,040
have already done in your in
your state 30 to 35% of your

1787
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:22,320
energy now come through clean I
will win. When five oil train

1788
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,930
protesters head to trial today
those defendants noticed the

1789
01:55:24,930 --> 01:55:28,050
Delta five received a blessing
at Seattle's Woodland Park

1790
01:55:28,050 --> 01:55:31,200
Presbyterian Church. The five
were arrested back in September

1791
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:35,460
of 2014. For blocking the tracks
at BNSF rail yard and Everett,

1792
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,250
members of the Delta five will
be allowed to argue in court

1793
01:55:38,370 --> 01:55:40,920
that their actions were
necessary because of the threat

1794
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:44,910
of climate change. This is a
nationally significant trial,

1795
01:55:45,060 --> 01:55:49,080
even globally significant
because it's the first time the

1796
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:53,580
necessity defense has been has
been allowed and will be argued

1797
01:55:53,610 --> 01:55:57,690
in an American court for climate
civil disobedience. During their

1798
01:55:57,690 --> 01:56:00,900
trial, the Delta five defendants
will call two rail safety

1799
01:56:00,900 --> 01:56:04,260
experts and a climatologist to
the stand to argue the threat of

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01:56:04,290 --> 01:56:06,870
oil trains to communities and
the climate.

1801
01:56:06,930 --> 01:56:10,080
We need small things but we need
big things. So the big

1802
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:14,190
transition away from carbon
dioxide and fossil fuel is

1803
01:56:14,190 --> 01:56:17,100
important because it has big
impacts. But also on a local

1804
01:56:17,100 --> 01:56:18,420
scale. We need to learn how

1805
01:56:18,630 --> 01:56:19,140
the little

1806
01:56:19,140 --> 01:56:22,560
things really play a part how we
can recycle more what else we

1807
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:27,420
can do, stop using as much
plastic bottles and our bags.

1808
01:56:27,420 --> 01:56:30,330
And one thing that always gets
to me too is I'm the first one

1809
01:56:30,330 --> 01:56:33,150
to join anyone for a good cup of
coffee. But bring your own mug,

1810
01:56:33,180 --> 01:56:33,570
right?

1811
01:56:34,379 --> 01:56:35,069
We're going to do that I

1812
01:56:35,070 --> 01:56:37,410
want to give a couple of video
questions. Here's a little

1813
01:56:37,410 --> 01:56:38,940
Layla. Take a look.

1814
01:56:39,510 --> 01:56:43,320
We really want the polar bears
to to have food to eat. So they

1815
01:56:43,740 --> 01:56:48,720
will be so there will be her and
I I don't know how to fix it.

1816
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:50,070
And I really want to

1817
01:56:52,020 --> 01:56:52,620
whaler

1818
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,670
lately, I gotta tell you, you're
not the only one. A lot of

1819
01:56:56,670 --> 01:57:00,030
people are working on this
issue. It is a serious one

1820
01:57:00,060 --> 01:57:04,290
serious impact. But there are
ways we can fix it. We all work

1821
01:57:04,290 --> 01:57:05,250
together for this.

1822
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:09,900
The big question is, are we too
late? That's been the pondering

1823
01:57:09,900 --> 01:57:13,500
question for for everyone. I
know, we should all remain

1824
01:57:13,500 --> 01:57:16,800
optimistic. And I want to remain
optimistic. But you will worry

1825
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:19,590
that we are too late that
somehow we've done so much

1826
01:57:19,590 --> 01:57:22,140
damage, we can't have somebody
else. The answer to that is in

1827
01:57:22,140 --> 01:57:25,260
somebody else's hands. But we do
know that the scientific

1828
01:57:25,260 --> 01:57:29,070
community has been screaming out
loud for decades and other

1829
01:57:29,070 --> 01:57:32,460
interests have stifled their
voice and manipulated this

1830
01:57:32,460 --> 01:57:35,640
conversation. And it's a real
shame. But I'm one thing I'm

1831
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,820
proud of that for the first time
we've we've seen the world

1832
01:57:38,820 --> 01:57:42,270
community take this issue
seriously. And if they hadn't,

1833
01:57:42,630 --> 01:57:45,270
there would be absolutely no
hope we can't wait another four

1834
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:49,380
years for people to start to
listen to 99% of the scientific

1835
01:57:49,380 --> 01:57:54,180
community. I mean, it's it's an
absurdity. And it's not about

1836
01:57:54,180 --> 01:57:57,540
the individual anymore. It's
about we it's about we as a

1837
01:57:57,540 --> 01:58:02,430
species as a world community
finally coming together to make

1838
01:58:02,430 --> 01:58:05,310
some sort of progress forward.
The question whether we're too

1839
01:58:05,310 --> 01:58:10,170
late or not, remains to be seen.
But, you know, I'm just very

1840
01:58:10,170 --> 01:58:13,560
happy as an environmentalist to
see something happen. But can

1841
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:17,310
these alarming weather events
also be blamed on climate

1842
01:58:17,310 --> 01:58:22,770
change? Scientists say not so
fast. Maybe climate change adds

1843
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:26,250
a couple more warmer days or
makes the warmest temperatures a

1844
01:58:26,250 --> 01:58:29,400
little bit warmer. I don't think
you can just say that because

1845
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,370
it's a warming world. We're
seeing a record warm December,

1846
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:35,310
we might be enhancing the normal
pattern that would have happened

1847
01:58:35,310 --> 01:58:38,550
anyway by a little bit. As
freakishly warm weather sweeps

1848
01:58:38,550 --> 01:58:41,430
the eastern US a new poll shows
Republicans who have largely

1849
01:58:41,430 --> 01:58:45,240
denied climate change may be
thinking again, Megan Casella

1850
01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:46,080
has the story.

1851
01:58:46,319 --> 01:58:49,379
And new Reuters Ipsos poll shows
that a majority of Republicans

1852
01:58:49,529 --> 01:58:51,959
are willing to take individual
steps in order to curb climate

1853
01:58:51,959 --> 01:58:53,969
change, and many of them are
also willing to support a

1854
01:58:53,969 --> 01:58:57,029
presidential candidate who was
looking to work internationally

1855
01:58:57,029 --> 01:58:58,139
and work with other countries in

1856
01:58:58,140 --> 01:59:01,590
order to take those same steps.
The poll found 58% of

1857
01:59:01,590 --> 01:59:04,350
Republicans who knew of the
recent global climate deal

1858
01:59:04,350 --> 01:59:07,950
reached in Paris approved of
efforts to limit global warming.

1859
01:59:08,370 --> 01:59:11,430
It's a snowball. For years
republican politicians like

1860
01:59:11,430 --> 01:59:15,120
Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe
have made climate change denial

1861
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:18,360
a key contrast with President
Obama and the Democrats. Mr.

1862
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:19,350
President catch this

1863
01:59:21,180 --> 01:59:24,930
2016 GOP hopefuls like Donald
Trump seeing a similar tune.

1864
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:28,470
President Obama said that global
warming is our biggest problem.

1865
01:59:28,470 --> 01:59:29,460
Can you believe this?

1866
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,730
We're seeing a primary where
many of these candidates aren't

1867
01:59:32,730 --> 01:59:35,160
talking about the issues at all.
Many of the Republican

1868
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:37,470
candidates are going so far as
to disavow the science behind

1869
01:59:37,470 --> 01:59:41,010
climate change and say that they
don't even believe that is

1870
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:43,920
primarily manmade. And so we're
seeing a difference there

1871
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:47,010
between what the Republican
electorate is thinking and and

1872
01:59:47,010 --> 01:59:48,900
hoping to see and what the
candidates themselves are

1873
01:59:48,900 --> 01:59:49,410
saying.

1874
01:59:49,710 --> 01:59:52,470
And that could turn up the heat
if a republican takes the White

1875
01:59:52,470 --> 01:59:55,470
House next year and has to
decide whether to implement the

1876
01:59:55,470 --> 01:59:59,430
climate agreement or scrap it
global climate talks in Paris

1877
01:59:59,430 --> 02:00:02,640
have entered the ninth day,
delegates are working to reach a

1878
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:06,060
deal to keep global warming
below two degrees Celsius.

1879
02:00:06,330 --> 02:00:09,420
Several of wetness day's events
are focusing on the climate

1880
02:00:09,420 --> 02:00:12,870
impacts of meat and dairy
consumption. Singer Paul

1881
02:00:12,870 --> 02:00:16,230
McCartney has been highlighting
the importance of a meat reduced

1882
02:00:16,230 --> 02:00:19,950
diet. He says the livestock
industry is responsible for a

1883
02:00:19,950 --> 02:00:24,420
massive percentage of greenhouse
gases. German MEP yo Lyneham

1884
02:00:24,420 --> 02:00:27,780
says Dyess is one of the most
delicate issues with climate

1885
02:00:27,780 --> 02:00:32,130
protection. activists in Paris
are taking a gentle approach to

1886
02:00:32,130 --> 02:00:35,400
the world's love affair with
meat, ranging from offering

1887
02:00:35,430 --> 02:00:39,330
lookalike plant burgers, to
suggesting a gradual weaning off

1888
02:00:39,330 --> 02:00:43,200
animal protein. For now, meat
consumption is rising in many

1889
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:46,770
countries, despite warnings.
Most recently a World Health

1890
02:00:46,770 --> 02:00:50,010
Organization report to find
eating processed or red meat

1891
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:53,760
increased the risk of developing
cancer, delegates hope to secure

1892
02:00:53,790 --> 02:00:58,230
a final climate deal by a
deadline of 6pm Central European

1893
02:00:58,230 --> 02:01:03,060
Time on Friday, we're now all in
this point in time on this

1894
02:01:03,060 --> 02:01:08,880
planet. And if we don't work
together, the consequences are

1895
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:14,280
disastrous, not right now. But
for our children, and our

1896
02:01:14,280 --> 02:01:18,390
children's children, and the
future of humanity.

1897
02:01:21,210 --> 02:01:25,350
The planet will be okay. It just
won't be any damn people on it.

1898
02:01:25,739 --> 02:01:29,729
And so we are actively at the
table, even though it's such a

1899
02:01:29,729 --> 02:01:32,339
short period of time. But it's a
commitment of our prime

1900
02:01:32,339 --> 02:01:36,689
ministers of commitment of mine
to be here to listen, to look at

1901
02:01:36,689 --> 02:01:40,349
how we can play a role in
finding solutions. You know,

1902
02:01:40,349 --> 02:01:43,349
we're not there yet with having
an agreement. But we're getting

1903
02:01:43,349 --> 02:01:45,989
close. And I think there's real
opportunities. And if Canada

1904
02:01:45,989 --> 02:01:49,109
actually shows that it's serious
that it's back, that we

1905
02:01:49,109 --> 02:01:52,409
understand that the science
behind climate change is real,

1906
02:01:52,709 --> 02:01:56,339
that we need to be taking action
that we need to be, you know,

1907
02:01:56,339 --> 02:01:59,159
looking at what measures we can
take to reduce emissions, I

1908
02:01:59,159 --> 02:02:01,979
think that will set an
extraordinarily strong signal.

1909
02:02:02,219 --> 02:02:05,729
And we've already seen that you
know that people are excited

1910
02:02:05,759 --> 02:02:08,069
that we're here and Canadians
are excited that we're here. I'm

1911
02:02:08,069 --> 02:02:11,819
excited to be here. So I'm
really looking forward, you

1912
02:02:11,819 --> 02:02:15,329
know, to meeting with everyone
and showing that we are serious

1913
02:02:15,329 --> 02:02:17,459
and that Canada is back on the
world stage.

1914
02:02:17,580 --> 02:02:22,140
He couldn't answer the most
basic fact that for the last 18

1915
02:02:22,140 --> 02:02:25,140
years, the satellite data showed
no significant warming

1916
02:02:25,140 --> 02:02:29,280
whatsoever. He had no idea about
that he turned to his aides

1917
02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:32,490
every minute or two. And you
know, part of the reason he

1918
02:02:32,490 --> 02:02:36,750
didn't know the facts because
climate change is not science.

1919
02:02:37,410 --> 02:02:38,130
It's religion.

1920
02:02:39,569 --> 02:02:44,909
Look at the language where they
call you a denier. denier is not

1921
02:02:45,179 --> 02:02:47,819
the language of science. Look,
I'm the child of two scientists.

1922
02:02:47,819 --> 02:02:49,799
My parents are both
mathematicians, computer

1923
02:02:49,799 --> 02:02:54,029
programmers. My dad was a self
taught geophysicist. The essence

1924
02:02:54,029 --> 02:02:57,449
of the scientific method is to
start with a hypothesis and then

1925
02:02:57,449 --> 02:03:00,449
look to evidence to disprove the
hypothesis. You're not trying to

1926
02:03:00,449 --> 02:03:04,559
prove it. You're trying to
disprove it. Any good scientist

1927
02:03:04,559 --> 02:03:08,549
is a skeptic if he's not he or
she should not be a scientist.

1928
02:03:08,969 --> 02:03:14,339
But yet the language of the
global warming alarmists denier

1929
02:03:14,339 --> 02:03:17,069
is the language of religion,
it's heretic, you are a

1930
02:03:17,069 --> 02:03:21,779
blasphemer. The response from
the Sierra Club, we have decreed

1931
02:03:21,779 --> 02:03:25,229
this as the answer you must
accept it. And so he didn't know

1932
02:03:25,229 --> 02:03:27,329
his facts because he just knew
his religion.

1933
02:03:28,649 --> 02:03:32,309
And our own skepticism over
climate changes cost one French

1934
02:03:32,339 --> 02:03:36,089
weatherman his job. He was taken
off air after publishing a book

1935
02:03:36,089 --> 02:03:39,809
where he described quote, the
complete hype on the matter.

1936
02:03:41,310 --> 02:03:46,710
My bed fever the visual that is
presented to me to use well,

1937
02:03:46,710 --> 02:03:49,770
Philip Verdier his book question
the causes and consequences of

1938
02:03:49,770 --> 02:03:52,590
climate change. The author
suggested that warmer

1939
02:03:52,590 --> 02:03:54,960
temperatures could bring
benefits including cheaper

1940
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,720
energy bills because new people
read his comments came just as

1941
02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:01,020
France prepares to host a major
UN Conference on climate change

1942
02:04:01,020 --> 02:04:04,320
later this month that aims to
decrease pollution levels

1943
02:04:04,350 --> 02:04:07,260
mission we asked the head of the
publishing house what he thinks

1944
02:04:07,260 --> 02:04:08,010
about the incident.

1945
02:04:10,260 --> 02:04:13,650
For me, this incident felt like
a crime of opinion pure and

1946
02:04:13,650 --> 02:04:17,580
simple. With this book, we
expected a controversy but not a

1947
02:04:17,580 --> 02:04:21,240
sacking. This demonstrates that
there is a real ideological

1948
02:04:21,240 --> 02:04:24,960
problem in France. At a certain
point we asked Philip about the

1949
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:28,140
possible outcomes. We told him
that he should protect his

1950
02:04:28,140 --> 02:04:31,770
interests. Well, never did he
say it's the money that counts.

1951
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:32,370
There's so

1952
02:04:32,370 --> 02:04:35,040
many different things that can
dampen your sex drive, you're

1953
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,640
tired, you have a headache, the
kids are bugging you. And now

1954
02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:42,390
here's another one to add to the
list. Global warming. That's

1955
02:04:42,390 --> 02:04:46,830
right, climate change can kill
your mojo. So researchers looked

1956
02:04:46,830 --> 02:04:50,640
at really hot days and then look
forward nine months and what

1957
02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:54,840
they found is fewer babies were
born nine months after those hot

1958
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:58,620
days they defined really hot
days as being over 80 degrees.

1959
02:04:58,740 --> 02:05:03,120
Those hot days may Couples feel
well, maybe not so hot. The

1960
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:06,630
impact was pretty sizable. In
the United States, they found

1961
02:05:06,630 --> 02:05:11,850
that the impact of one hot day
meant 1100 fewer births. Nine

1962
02:05:11,850 --> 02:05:14,790
months later, when you look at
the whole United States, we had

1963
02:05:14,790 --> 02:05:18,360
about 30 days a year with the
temperature climbs above 80.

1964
02:05:18,450 --> 02:05:22,080
However, as global warming takes
its toll, it's predicted that we

1965
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,960
could have 90 days a year where
the temperature climbs that

1966
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:29,190
high, that could mean eventually
in the United States, 100,000

1967
02:05:29,190 --> 02:05:32,550
fewer births every year, and
because of global warming, it's

1968
02:05:32,550 --> 02:05:35,820
just getting hotter. Now, once
the weather cooled off, couples

1969
02:05:35,820 --> 02:05:39,420
did get back to coupling, but
still it didn't make up for the

1970
02:05:39,420 --> 02:05:43,230
decreases during the hot months.
So it turns out global warming

1971
02:05:43,230 --> 02:05:47,040
is not just bad for our oceans
and our crops. It's also bad for

1972
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:47,940
our sex lives,

1973
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:52,530
peer pressure and cooperation.
These are just some of the buzz

1974
02:05:52,530 --> 02:05:55,710
words being used ahead of the UN
Climate meeting in Paris this

1975
02:05:55,710 --> 02:05:58,710
December, where talks will look
to reach an international

1976
02:05:58,710 --> 02:06:02,250
agreement to cut greenhouse gas
emissions, negotiators planning

1977
02:06:02,250 --> 02:06:05,940
to enforce any deals without
sanctions or punishments. The

1978
02:06:05,940 --> 02:06:08,370
climate agreement will be more
along the lines of a nuclear

1979
02:06:08,370 --> 02:06:11,160
agreement than it will be along
the lines of something that say

1980
02:06:11,460 --> 02:06:13,200
under the World Trade
Organisation where you could

1981
02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:17,760
come and slap trade sanctions on
people. Of course, some people

1982
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:21,390
say this just isn't good enough.
The Bolivians especially have

1983
02:06:21,390 --> 02:06:24,390
the most radical proposal, which
is to say that you should have

1984
02:06:24,390 --> 02:06:28,230
an international climate justice
tribunal. Neither China nor the

1985
02:06:28,230 --> 02:06:31,500
United States are two top
emitters of greenhouse gases

1986
02:06:31,530 --> 02:06:35,430
would be willing to submit
themselves to a strong legal

1987
02:06:35,430 --> 02:06:39,000
review of their promises to cut
to curb greenhouse gas

1988
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:42,720
emissions. Instead, a likely
outcome could be a pledge and

1989
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:45,600
review system whereby
commitments are assessed every

1990
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:49,380
five years against the goal of
having world emissions by 2050

1991
02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:52,440
advocators of that also
anticipate an organic move

1992
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:57,300
towards green energy. The hope
is that in the coming years that

1993
02:06:57,300 --> 02:07:00,900
the prices of solar technology
or wind technology, wind

1994
02:07:00,900 --> 02:07:04,560
turbines, hydro power will have
come down so much that it makes

1995
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:07,680
it makes economic sense for
governments to go ahead and do

1996
02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:10,860
this. Since 1979. The summer sea

1997
02:07:10,860 --> 02:07:14,760
ice in the Arctic has decreased
by more than 40% decrease that

1998
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:17,850
has dramatically accelerated
over the past two decades. One

1999
02:07:17,850 --> 02:07:20,760
new study estimates that
Alaska's glaciers alone lose

2000
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:26,430
about 75 Giga tons that 75
billion tons of ice each year.

2001
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:30,060
To put that in perspective, one
scientist described a Giga ton

2002
02:07:30,090 --> 02:07:35,100
of ice as a block the size of
the National Mall in Washington,

2003
02:07:35,100 --> 02:07:38,910
from Congress, all the way to
the Lincoln Memorial four times

2004
02:07:38,910 --> 02:07:42,450
as tall as the Washington
Monument. Now imagine 75 of

2005
02:07:42,450 --> 02:07:46,170
those ice blocks. That's what
Alaska's glaciers alone lose

2006
02:07:46,200 --> 02:07:50,370
each year, the pace of melting
is only getting faster. It's now

2007
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:56,250
twice what it was between 1950
and 2000, twice as fast as it

2008
02:07:56,250 --> 02:07:59,910
was just a little over a decade
ago. And it's one of the reasons

2009
02:07:59,910 --> 02:08:02,880
why sea levels rose by about
eight inches over the last

2010
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:06,240
century. And why are they're
projected to rise another one to

2011
02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:09,630
four feet this century? Because
I don't think you think climate

2012
02:08:09,630 --> 02:08:13,590
change is a real problem. And
I'm not alone. I mean, the most

2013
02:08:13,590 --> 02:08:16,260
recent survey, not alone, the
most recent survey climate

2014
02:08:16,830 --> 02:08:22,200
scientists said about 57% don't
agree with the idea that 95% of

2015
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:24,210
the change in the climate has
been caused by

2016
02:08:25,529 --> 02:08:29,309
there was a survey done of 1800
scientists and 57% said they

2017
02:08:29,309 --> 02:08:33,449
don't buy off on the idea that
co2 is the knob that's turning

2018
02:08:33,449 --> 02:08:36,329
the clump. There's hundreds of
green, I don't know, I don't

2019
02:08:36,329 --> 02:08:37,829
know what else you're pulling

2020
02:08:39,420 --> 02:08:44,250
out the survey, okay, it's 1800
climate science. So that's

2021
02:08:44,250 --> 02:08:48,180
number one. Number two, the 97%
figure that's thrown around. The

2022
02:08:48,180 --> 02:08:52,230
head of the UN IPCC said that
number was pulled out of thin

2023
02:08:52,230 --> 02:08:57,000
air. It was based on us on a
survey of 77 not even 97

2024
02:08:57,000 --> 02:08:59,910
scientists responded to that
survey. So let's just get let's

2025
02:08:59,910 --> 02:09:03,270
talk about facts. And the fact
is, lots of things caused

2026
02:09:03,270 --> 02:09:07,560
climate change. But Pope made a
very strong statement, very

2027
02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:10,950
strong statement in support of
my position on climate change,

2028
02:09:10,950 --> 02:09:14,910
not yours. And your position
when you heard that was, hey,

2029
02:09:14,940 --> 02:09:17,940
let's leave the science to the
scientists. Okay, first of all,

2030
02:09:17,940 --> 02:09:22,110
you're not doing that. But
second of all, I am. You're not

2031
02:09:22,110 --> 02:09:26,010
because 97% of all scientists
believe a bogus number. It's so

2032
02:09:26,010 --> 02:09:29,340
not a bogus. It's so okay, yours
is mine is yours is mine.

2033
02:09:33,359 --> 02:09:37,739
What I want to ask you is, I
mean, you're I'm not a Catholic.

2034
02:09:37,769 --> 02:09:41,759
I'm not. I'm not I'm an atheist.
But I like the pope better than

2035
02:09:41,759 --> 02:09:42,479
you do. And I

2036
02:09:44,159 --> 02:09:47,969
go, Wait a second. You are,
you're saying the potion stick

2037
02:09:47,969 --> 02:09:49,469
to what he knows. And

2038
02:09:52,409 --> 02:09:55,469
this is what I always say. So
much of religion is arrogance

2039
02:09:55,469 --> 02:09:59,729
masquerading as humility, shut.
He's the Vicar of Christ. You're

2040
02:09:59,729 --> 02:10:02,819
God. Shouldn't you have the
humility to say, Well, if the

2041
02:10:02,819 --> 02:10:07,049
pope thinks climate change is a
problem? Maybe I should, he's

2042
02:10:07,049 --> 02:10:13,889
not just another guy. If you
look at all the things the Pope

2043
02:10:13,889 --> 02:10:17,249
said, which, which I hope you
do, he put it in the context of

2044
02:10:17,249 --> 02:10:20,519
trying to reach out to people
who may not agree with him on a

2045
02:10:20,519 --> 02:10:23,309
whole lot of other issues in
order to try to open up some

2046
02:10:23,309 --> 02:10:25,799
doors and open up a
conversation, which is obviously

2047
02:10:25,799 --> 02:10:27,989
done. I mean, Al Gore is now
saying he's gonna become a

2048
02:10:27,989 --> 02:10:29,999
Catholic because of this
president. I mean, because of

2049
02:10:29,999 --> 02:10:33,569
this Pope. Contrary to media
headlines, the trend over the

2050
02:10:33,569 --> 02:10:38,789
past couple of decades, has been
essentially flat. Meanwhile,

2051
02:10:38,879 --> 02:10:45,179
human caused co2 emissions are
higher than ever, about 25% of

2052
02:10:45,179 --> 02:10:49,439
all the co2 emissions from human
sources have occurred during

2053
02:10:49,439 --> 02:10:55,139
this period of no net warming.
So what are we in for next? Will

2054
02:10:55,139 --> 02:10:59,159
the temperature resume an upward
trend? Will it remain flat for a

2055
02:10:59,159 --> 02:11:04,829
lengthy period? Or will it begin
to drop? No one knows, not even

2056
02:11:04,829 --> 02:11:09,239
the biggest, fastest computers,
all the information I've

2057
02:11:09,239 --> 02:11:13,499
presented, the increases,
decreases and plateaus in

2058
02:11:13,499 --> 02:11:17,069
temperature over the ages and
into the last centuries is

2059
02:11:17,069 --> 02:11:21,539
available to anyone who wants to
seek it out. Yet to state these

2060
02:11:21,539 --> 02:11:26,129
simple facts is to risk being
called a climate change denier.

2061
02:11:26,609 --> 02:11:31,169
Not only is that absurd? It's
mean spirited. It's absurd,

2062
02:11:31,169 --> 02:11:35,669
because no one, not even the
most fervent skeptic denies that

2063
02:11:35,669 --> 02:11:39,779
the climate is changing. And
it's mean spirited, because to

2064
02:11:39,779 --> 02:11:43,889
call someone a climate change
denier is to intentionally link

2065
02:11:43,889 --> 02:11:48,449
them to people who deny the
Holocaust. So maybe it's time to

2066
02:11:48,449 --> 02:11:52,289
stop the name calling,
predicting the climate, one of

2067
02:11:52,289 --> 02:11:56,369
the most complex systems on
Earth, with 1000s of inputs,

2068
02:11:56,549 --> 02:11:59,789
many of which we don't
understand isn't an exact

2069
02:11:59,789 --> 02:12:03,989
science, or anything close to
it. Maybe it's just a tad

2070
02:12:03,989 --> 02:12:07,499
arrogant to suggest that we can
predict the weather or the

2071
02:12:07,499 --> 02:12:12,689
climate, or just about anything.
60 years from now, the science

2072
02:12:12,689 --> 02:12:17,669
is not settled. The debate is
not over. The climate is always

2073
02:12:17,669 --> 02:12:23,189
changing. It always has. And it
always will. I'm Patrick Moore,

2074
02:12:23,399 --> 02:12:26,999
co founder of Greenpeace, for
Prager University, climate

2075
02:12:26,999 --> 02:12:30,269
change is stretching out our
variability. Talking about

2076
02:12:30,269 --> 02:12:33,179
politics, it's always been very
important to you making a

2077
02:12:33,179 --> 02:12:36,029
difference in the world. Where
do you think stand things stand

2078
02:12:36,029 --> 02:12:40,199
in 2014? A lot of people are
cynical, can I say shut up and

2079
02:12:40,979 --> 02:12:44,399
run this world have as exactly
where they want us? Now they

2080
02:12:44,399 --> 02:12:47,429
want everyone to just lay down
Shut up. While we rob, you talk

2081
02:12:47,429 --> 02:12:51,179
about the fight for a cleaner,
safer environment? Well, you

2082
02:12:51,179 --> 02:12:53,879
know, there are many, many
problems facing us, especially

2083
02:12:53,879 --> 02:12:56,729
with the acidification of the
ocean and then rising and the

2084
02:12:56,729 --> 02:12:59,579
temperatures and the melting of
the glaciers. But it all really

2085
02:12:59,579 --> 02:13:02,609
stems from climate change. You
know, and, you know, it's

2086
02:13:02,609 --> 02:13:05,909
appalling how many climate
change deniers there are in this

2087
02:13:05,909 --> 02:13:09,539
world that are paid to make sure
that the Koch brothers can still

2088
02:13:09,539 --> 02:13:13,409
sell all the stuff to us. And I
often wonder, don't the Koch

2089
02:13:13,409 --> 02:13:16,769
brothers have children? They
have grandchildren? Don't they

2090
02:13:16,769 --> 02:13:19,589
know what they're doing in this
quest for more money? They're

2091
02:13:19,589 --> 02:13:23,279
already one of the richest
families in the world. How much

2092
02:13:23,279 --> 02:13:28,109
more do you need? We have a
brand new aspect of Hollywood

2093
02:13:28,109 --> 02:13:33,209
Health and Society, which is to
work with on a topic of climate

2094
02:13:33,209 --> 02:13:37,079
change. Where again, all these
different activities, writer

2095
02:13:37,079 --> 02:13:41,099
briefings, screenings,
newsletters, and so on are an

2096
02:13:41,099 --> 02:13:45,899
attempt to provide free
resources to writers who want to

2097
02:13:45,899 --> 02:13:51,359
include climate change as one of
the storylines that they're

2098
02:13:51,359 --> 02:13:55,169
working on. And just to give you
an example of that climate

2099
02:13:55,169 --> 02:13:59,999
change work a few weeks ago,
there was a field trip we do

2100
02:13:59,999 --> 02:14:05,219
something called story bus
tours, to the JPL NASA lab in

2101
02:14:05,219 --> 02:14:08,819
Pasadena, where we brought
something like 37 writers and

2102
02:14:08,819 --> 02:14:13,769
producers to experience the most
amazing stuff that they have

2103
02:14:13,769 --> 02:14:18,479
going on to inspire them in this
area and to be factually

2104
02:14:18,509 --> 02:14:19,079
accurate.

2105
02:14:19,140 --> 02:14:20,310
If you noticed your last flight

2106
02:14:20,310 --> 02:14:23,700
was unusually bumpy get used to
it. Scientists say climate

2107
02:14:23,700 --> 02:14:26,580
change is making the air more
turbulent Case

2108
02:14:26,580 --> 02:14:29,070
in point, the South African
Airlines Flight

2109
02:14:29,250 --> 02:14:32,400
rough bear sent passengers
flying across the cabin. Some

2110
02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:36,180
even hit the ceiling. 20 people
were seriously injured on that

2111
02:14:36,180 --> 02:14:39,930
flight from Johannesburg, South
Africa. cnet's George house has

2112
02:14:39,930 --> 02:14:40,560
more for you.

2113
02:14:42,540 --> 02:14:46,950
been on a flight like this
lately? A recent study may have

2114
02:14:46,950 --> 02:14:50,340
you reaching for the seat belts,
suggesting we could see more

2115
02:14:50,340 --> 02:14:54,060
turbulence in the years to come
as a result of climate change.

2116
02:14:55,409 --> 02:14:58,829
And after the ups and downs I
experienced on this flight I

2117
02:14:58,829 --> 02:15:02,009
decided to look into Okay, so
we're flying from Boston to

2118
02:15:02,009 --> 02:15:05,789
Chicago, and it's one of the
bumpiest flights I've been on

2119
02:15:06,269 --> 02:15:06,629
ever.

2120
02:15:08,159 --> 02:15:08,849
What do you think?

2121
02:15:10,979 --> 02:15:13,229
My stomach actually physically
hurts from

2122
02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:16,200
the flight because your child
will never be able to say that

2123
02:15:16,200 --> 02:15:20,130
one particular person's flight
experience, which was bumpy was

2124
02:15:20,130 --> 02:15:22,380
the has been caused by climate
change. Of course, we can't.

2125
02:15:22,410 --> 02:15:27,780
What we can say is that, as the
climate changes, the odds of

2126
02:15:27,780 --> 02:15:30,510
encountering turbulence on your
flight are increasing.

2127
02:15:32,640 --> 02:15:36,330
Dr. Paul Williams says climate
change is not only heating up

2128
02:15:36,330 --> 02:15:39,000
the bottom part of the
atmosphere, but the computer

2129
02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:42,750
models show increased carbon
dioxide levels are also changing

2130
02:15:42,750 --> 02:15:45,450
the Temperatures and wind speeds
in the jet stream.

2131
02:15:47,430 --> 02:15:50,340
His research focuses in on
transatlantic flights,

2132
02:15:50,370 --> 02:15:53,820
specifically addressing what's
called clear air turbulence

2133
02:15:53,850 --> 02:15:57,690
occurring high above the clouds,
and passengers are starting to

2134
02:15:57,690 --> 02:16:01,800
feel the difference. So those
Jetstream wind shares are

2135
02:16:01,800 --> 02:16:04,920
becoming stronger because of
climate change. And that I

2136
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:07,200
believe is causing the
atmosphere to become more

2137
02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:11,280
turbulent. And that is causing
airplane flights to become

2138
02:16:11,280 --> 02:16:15,540
bumpier as a consequence. Thank
you very much. So Dr. Bock, can

2139
02:16:15,540 --> 02:16:20,880
you be one of the 97%? This
talked about and certainly, you

2140
02:16:20,880 --> 02:16:24,990
know, you're you, you know, you
feel like man is contributing

2141
02:16:24,990 --> 02:16:27,720
and this and that, but certainly
are not one that feels like the

2142
02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:31,530
models are acceptable. And I
suspect that you have many of

2143
02:16:31,530 --> 02:16:35,850
your cohorts that are in the
same in the same camp? Well, I

2144
02:16:35,850 --> 02:16:39,000
think the key thing here is that
science is not a real by

2145
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:43,260
majority method. That's the
important thing. It's discovery.

2146
02:16:43,800 --> 02:16:47,670
And I'd like to quote, Jonas
Salk, the inventor of the polio

2147
02:16:47,670 --> 02:16:51,600
vaccine, he said, I get into
dialogue, a dialogue with

2148
02:16:51,600 --> 02:16:55,830
nature, and put the question to
nature, not to my colleagues,

2149
02:16:55,860 --> 02:16:59,700
because that's from whence the
answer must come. And that's

2150
02:16:59,700 --> 02:17:03,600
what I do. I always look at the
data. And also Richard Fineman,

2151
02:17:04,140 --> 02:17:09,270
one of the great 20th century,
quantum physicists said, science

2152
02:17:09,300 --> 02:17:14,250
is the belief in the ignorance
of experts. So to keep saying

2153
02:17:14,280 --> 02:17:19,650
it's a majority. That's not a
scientific statement. And it's

2154
02:17:19,650 --> 02:17:25,170
not correct. I've spent 15 years
working on climate change in a

2155
02:17:25,170 --> 02:17:29,040
very constructive way. And what
I can tell you is that since

2156
02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:33,840
about 1990, the data has started
to move in the other direction,

2157
02:17:34,140 --> 02:17:39,450
away from an important effect by
human beings. And that's just

2158
02:17:39,450 --> 02:17:40,740
what the facts Show.

2159
02:17:42,060 --> 02:17:42,930
Hey, everybody,

2160
02:17:43,170 --> 02:17:46,380
I'm Gina McCarthy, Administrator
of the Environmental Protection

2161
02:17:46,380 --> 02:17:50,340
Agency. Let me start by thanking
revenue wood in the Hip Hop

2162
02:17:50,340 --> 02:17:54,000
Caucus for putting all this
together. I also want to give a

2163
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:57,750
shout out to Reverend early in
everyone else at the hip hop

2164
02:17:57,750 --> 02:18:02,880
caucuses climate tour. at EPA,
it's our job to protect public

2165
02:18:02,880 --> 02:18:06,930
health and the environment. Too
often, low income neighborhoods

2166
02:18:06,930 --> 02:18:10,770
and communities of color are
overburdened by air pollution,

2167
02:18:10,950 --> 02:18:14,850
water pollution and contaminated
soil, as well as dangerous

2168
02:18:14,850 --> 02:18:18,420
floods, fires and storms that
have been worsened by climate

2169
02:18:18,420 --> 02:18:22,920
change. In the US, an African
American child is five times

2170
02:18:22,920 --> 02:18:26,610
more likely than a white child
to die from an asthma attack.

2171
02:18:26,880 --> 02:18:30,540
And climate change means hotter
temperatures, and even more air

2172
02:18:30,540 --> 02:18:34,470
pollution, which especially
burdens minority communities.

2173
02:18:34,590 --> 02:18:38,490
It's tough to go to school or to
find a job when you're sick or

2174
02:18:38,490 --> 02:18:42,570
caring for a child who is sick.
Pollution is holding back

2175
02:18:42,780 --> 02:18:46,200
millions of African Americans
fighting for middle class

2176
02:18:46,200 --> 02:18:49,680
security, because the first few
rungs of any ladder of

2177
02:18:49,680 --> 02:18:53,520
opportunity, a clean air to
breathe, and clean water to

2178
02:18:53,520 --> 02:18:57,510
drink. In President Obama calls
closing those gaps of

2179
02:18:57,510 --> 02:18:58,350
opportunity,

2180
02:18:58,590 --> 02:19:02,910
the defining issue of our time.
fantastic news today for freedom

2181
02:19:02,910 --> 02:19:06,690
of speech, as I've said here
several times, Professor Peter

2182
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:10,200
reid is a great barrier reef
expert, who was sacked

2183
02:19:10,380 --> 02:19:14,070
shamefully by James Cook
University for questioning

2184
02:19:14,070 --> 02:19:17,580
claims by colleagues that the
reef was being destroyed by

2185
02:19:17,580 --> 02:19:22,380
global warming. He was sacked
for saying things like this, we

2186
02:19:22,380 --> 02:19:25,380
can no longer trust the
scientific organizations like

2187
02:19:25,410 --> 02:19:28,530
Australian Institute of Marine
Science, even things like the

2188
02:19:28,530 --> 02:19:31,560
IRC Center of Excellence for
coral reef studies. A lot of

2189
02:19:31,560 --> 02:19:35,280
this stuff is coming out which
the science is not properly

2190
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:38,760
checked, tested or replicated.
And this is a great shame that

2191
02:19:38,850 --> 02:19:41,100
we really need to be able to tap
trust our scientific

2192
02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:44,880
institutions. Well, the Federal
Court today ruled that red

2193
02:19:44,880 --> 02:19:49,050
sacking was unlawful. Joining me
is Gideon Rosner, the policy

2194
02:19:49,050 --> 02:19:51,900
director of the Institute of
Public Affairs, which is

2195
02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:55,890
supported Rudd's fight for free
speech. Gideon, thank you so

2196
02:19:55,890 --> 02:19:58,950
much for joining me. What did
the judge find exactly? Well,

2197
02:19:58,950 --> 02:20:02,250
the judge found Essentially that
every action the university took

2198
02:20:02,250 --> 02:20:04,890
against pader, whether it be the
sensors, whether it be the gag

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orders, and whether it be in
fact is like Final second, we're

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all invalid. They're all
measurements that shouldn't have

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happened because they overrode
and contravene Peters right to

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free speech and free
intellectual expression

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expression that's contained in
his ABA. So all of what Peter

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02:20:21,150 --> 02:20:24,480
suffered from kotaki out against
the climate change orthodoxy

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everything that he was hit by,
for speaking against the so

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02:20:27,720 --> 02:20:30,750
called settled science of the
reef was in danger was all found

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02:20:30,750 --> 02:20:33,630
to be invalid because he was
protected for free expression is

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the Great Barrier Reef dying.
Now,

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the reef is in fantastic shape.
I often say that it of all the

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ecosystems in the world,
possibly with the exception of

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Antarctica, the Great Barrier
Reef is one of the best

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preserved there is.

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So Peter, what would you say to
the naysayers and the usual

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suspects who would paint you as
somebody who doesn't care about

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the environment? Well, you

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02:20:56,040 --> 02:20:58,500
know, I come from an
environmentalist family,

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right from a very early age. You
know, being the environmental

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02:21:01,230 --> 02:21:04,050
organizations. I used to be
president of the local branch of

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the wildlife Preservation
Society.

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I'm an environmentalist.

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02:21:11,880 --> 02:21:16,050
In 1977, the worst winter in a
centuries bucked the United

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States.

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Cold and ripped the Midwest for
weeks on

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great blizzards, allies and
cities of the Northeast. One

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02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:33,600
desperate night in Buffalo,
eight people froze to death in

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02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:38,850
green cars. emotionaler was on
the road at night, traffic just

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02:21:38,850 --> 02:21:42,330
absolutely stacked, who was
afraid of being stuck in the car

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02:21:42,330 --> 02:21:47,430
all night long, with the cold
and the wind running out of gas.

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And then what? I think that if
we had to go through a real bad

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winter, just like we just went
through. I think we have to

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02:21:56,640 --> 02:21:58,080
think about moving from place.

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Move where the brutal buffalo
winter might become common all

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02:22:04,320 --> 02:22:08,730
over the United States. Climate
experts believe the next Ice Age

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02:22:08,760 --> 02:22:12,810
is on its way. According to
recent evidence, it could come

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02:22:12,810 --> 02:22:14,700
sooner than anyone expected.

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And weather stations in the Far
North. temperatures have been

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dropping for 30 years.

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02:22:24,390 --> 02:22:28,020
Long three of summer ice are now
blocked year round.

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02:22:29,730 --> 02:22:33,900
According to some climatologists
within a lifetime, we might be

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living in the next Ice Age.

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Wow, john, You've outdone
yourself.

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02:22:44,940 --> 02:22:49,470
But thanks. Because of the
database, it turns out Who knew?

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02:22:50,370 --> 02:22:55,290
Well, that's my Tourette's as
you say. Yes, finally. well

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02:22:55,290 --> 02:23:00,240
organised. Well, I'm missing a
lot unfortunately. I just didn't

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02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:02,820
have any more but it sounds like
you had some stuff going going

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02:23:02,820 --> 02:23:06,480
way back before my database. I
think it must be yours. No, no,

2247
02:23:06,480 --> 02:23:11,340
no. It's a database random I was
just ran with them and the ones

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02:23:11,340 --> 02:23:14,490
that there were boring ones that
were left on the cutting room

2249
02:23:14,490 --> 02:23:17,730
floor, but most of these were
kept people listening, I'm sure.

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Alright, everybody well on the
next show, but we'll be back.

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We'll tell you what we're doing
on that one. I think you'll

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02:23:23,820 --> 02:23:27,510
enjoy that as well. In the
meantime, remember, we've got

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Episode 1337 coming up, that's
the lead it'll be celebrated on

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1338 and coming to you from a
vacation destination in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
Curry and from Northern Silicon

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Valley where I remain i'm john
C. De Boer. I will see you on

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the next show. On Sunday. Until
then Adios, mofos and such.org

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