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Adam Curry: Hey Adam curry, John
C. Dvorak. February 14 2020 ones

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it's your award winning give
nation media assassination

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episode 1321 This is no agenda
COVID kissing and broadcasting

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live from opportunity's own 33
Here in the frontier of Austin,

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Texas Capitol on the drone Star
State. In the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C. Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where we just

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found out Trump got acquitted.
I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Unknown: Raglan Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: Leaving you just
found out where are you

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yesterday?

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John C. Dvorak: We just found
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fine. Yeah. They just told us
recently, I

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Adam Curry: was not expecting
much. But when the defense

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started and the goomba came out
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I was in my elements.

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John C. Dvorak: You have the
super cuts. Oh, John, these

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Adam Curry: were 14 minutes.
Super cuts. Yeah, they're too

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long. And a lot of them we had
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suspect perhaps some of them had
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John C. Dvorak: appropriated. I
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from I think the other way
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ones I think the ones that we
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, the
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did so well. Was and I think in
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if you present evidence, and the
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hey, these these something's
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holy crap for the first time,
MSNBC and CNN. And of course,

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Fox played the entire very fine
people clip in its entirety. All

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four and a half minutes. That
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knew what to do with it.

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John C. Dvorak: This is good.
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we can play that clip. The clip
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play a clip.

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Adam Curry: And that's what if I
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Philly guy missed. He should
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Anyway, do it. He should have
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saying that was the moment that
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president that guy that very
fine people. That's what he

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should have done. But no.
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was just it was a personal
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John C. Dvorak: So I got a late
I got a late clip which came in

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I think it'd be a good one to
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Vander lien, whatever the guy's
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Adam Curry: is. This is this is
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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, no, I
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Adam Curry: have bits from that.
Maybe it's the same thing we'll

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see. It doesn't matter. No,

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John C. Dvorak: I'm sure it's
the same thing. Is this Lana?

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Zack?

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Adam Curry: I don't remember who
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John C. Dvorak: She's
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Adam Curry: Okay, no, yeah, it's
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remember.

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John C. Dvorak: Well, I just
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you have some stuff that dads
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couldn't clip maybe three or
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the I got the one long one in
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unbelievable to me that she says
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speaking, the plate.

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Unknown: Well throughout
throughout the trial, you denied

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that Mr. Trump had a role in
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insurrection at the Capitol you
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was no insurrection. But during
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seemingly admitted that there
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using that word saying that that
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did the former president play?
You didn't understand the case?

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I use the word give you the
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I use the word insurrection in
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the charging documents. What
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January 6 is absolutely
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the Capitol during this trial
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Prosecutors in this case
doctored evidence. They did not

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investigate this case. And when
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the Senate to put their case on,
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investigation. They doctored
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shocking, I think when when we
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to expose it and put it out. I
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senators, the American people
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this. They need to look at who
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and look to see whether these
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representing them. It was
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let's follow up with with the
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now about the house manners.
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evidence and, and the argument

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of yours. They didn't deny it.

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Viewers, what you're what you're
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mark. That's a verification on
Twitter that that did not exist

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on that particular tweet. Uh
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read 2021. And the selective
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that's not enough for you.
That's not enough for you. Wait,

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wait, wait, no, no, no.

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I'm not a urine this trial. What
I'm here for our viewers is what

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Adam Curry: just got to
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Throughout this whole thing.
She's talking to talk about her

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viewers. Lady. It's CBS N. You
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viewers you got is the people
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John C. Dvorak: Stop it why you
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couple of things before we
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Yeah. One is she keeps saying
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Adam Curry: you say you should
have said you claim. And then

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John C. Dvorak: she's talked
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beginning, she said then you use
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for debate. He didn't call her
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her out in the front fender. All
he was doing was quoting the but

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he never said it was not up for
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insurrection this woman and
unfortunately, what you can't

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see here, she's been with CBS
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can tell. And usually in this
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and she's smiling and they kept
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speak of they have a two box
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the right. And they never really
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theirs. They have no director,
she has to press the pedal

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herself and afford it. She has
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can't cut away from her. So
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And this is a mistake, because
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she's doing she's marking she's
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she's winning this some debate
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Adam Curry: For her viewers,

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John C. Dvorak: for her viewer,

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Adam Curry: streaming, it's
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John C. Dvorak: It can't. It's
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can get it through some of the
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coming on. It is not being
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Adam Curry: This is not the
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worse the number one choice to
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explained here is as a part of
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picture of Jamie Raskin with you
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John C. Dvorak: he just, you
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Adam Curry: Yeah, he even
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John C. Dvorak: breeze dead kid

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Adam Curry: again. Which is sad.
But you know, it's like, oh,

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thank you again, for, you know,
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John C. Dvorak: it got to do
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Adam Curry: but he was in front
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2020 tweet was that was doctored
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things that you can it's really
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source and then you can save it.
It's kind of fun to do. That was

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Raskin in front of this
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best part one of the house
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bring the weakest of the week,
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minute. Let me let me finish up
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now we're going back to where
he's calling her out for just

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kind of talking about that
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Unknown: Wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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wait, wait, wait, wait enough
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you. Wait, wait, wait, no.

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I'm not a urine this trial. What
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viewers is what you what you're
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everybody. Fully. I have not
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I want to be clear for our
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where it's about doctored
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the media has to start telling
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The media is trying to divide
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thirsty for ratings. And as
such, you're asking questions

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now that are already set up with
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you would ask me a question
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Just to Doctor a little bit of
evidence. There's more stuff

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that we uncovered that they
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Adam Curry: What a canard on
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managers. That was so easy to do
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John C. Dvorak: what Oh,
interesting. Let's stop for one

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second. Take care Look at what
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all about. I was thinking about
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the whole thing is actually even
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beginning of this whole epidemic
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ambulances, this was doctored
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people from that YouTubers, the
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showed there's nobody here and
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there was nobody there. The
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Biden went and the very fine
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is bullcrap. And the whole thing
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in on the whole thing. And then
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doctored evidence, when they
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it. She got laid off. He got
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evidence to go after Trump and
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the FBI, and this guy's out. And
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go all the way back to East
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fact that that was docked and
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climate change. This is the
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evidence. It's like everything
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evidence. They will give us the
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Adam Curry: Good night
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John C. Dvorak: Hello East
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Adam Curry: Yes, I will recount
for everyone that the I believe

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it was the guardian. That could
be wrong. But it was a major

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newspaper in the UK. Said
children will not no snow by the

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turn of bite. What was it?
2020 12 I think at the time will

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not no snow by 2012. It will
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and gentlemen. I have 28 degrees
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Texas, Texas. Oh my goodness.
There's so much to talk about on

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that regard. It's you know,
Adam, Curtis has famous Adam

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Curtis documentarian has a new
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John C. Dvorak: Have you heard
of it? No, no, I have lost track

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Adam Curry: Oh my goodness, it
came out two days ago. It is six

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hours. It's six episodes. It's
it's very broad, but it kind of

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tracks all of these global
institutions and systems and it

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tracks it kind of parallels. So
we see how Mao comes up and see

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what's happening in the US and
I've only seen three episodes so

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far. But there's so much that
then comes down to the problem

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with money in the system. The
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are an integral part of that no
wonder this some of these

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millennials are trying to figure
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It's like everything is phony
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more. Yeah. And the funny joke
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clearly knew that they were not
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signaling, it's also just these
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sisters. Just throw them up
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of due process has afforded and
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here is some circumstantial
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Adam Curry: That's the news
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dynamite stuff. And it's just
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everyone broadcasts it and no
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huge elephant in the room. Of
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played a supercut of Democrats
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hindsight, if if I were the
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a partner just to get it going.
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no agenda show that those guys
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not should not be legally.
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to the 15 volts from the state
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Adam Curry: I object to the
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Alabama, the electors were not
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signed by a senator not as of
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case, the objection cannot be
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signed by an American. And
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session. No debate voting, no
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Adam Curry: that goes on. You
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John C. Dvorak: And those are
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Democrats. You can even hear a
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Adam Curry: she Sheila Jackson
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events on January 6, are not
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people around in the way it
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have been unprecedented. But one
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Capitol building. Only the

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John C. Dvorak: people and there
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and Pelosi is obviously climate
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
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With her in there. Yeah. 2009
AIDS protesters had to be

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removed. 2011 protests inside
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groups was that 2011 Was that
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different one 2016 protest of
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don't shoot hands up
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protest. 2016 2018. The Supreme
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on the Supreme Court door. They
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break it down insurrection, I
tell you insurrection. And then

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at the very last minute, all CNN
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Friday night. Yeah. McCarthy?
Yeah, he knows that Trump, he

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knew about the riots and Pence
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now, now we're not going to do
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there was the vote for
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for witnesses, which would be
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McCarthy and a number of other
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canceled going to the the
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around for this if they're going
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this is gonna be fun. And then
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the whole thing, because they
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stand is what I what someone
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don't know why that would be it
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John C. Dvorak: Let's just let's
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in the Soviet Union and with the
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there. It seems to me that just
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to 2020 by itself should be
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if I was a Democrat I would have
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Something's just not right. I'm
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have been no votes for the
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seeing fake evidence. I mean,
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in some sort of criminal case,
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prosecution had faked up
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evidence what would you what
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Adam Curry: not even sure that
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been in a studio somewhere yeah,
I didn't see that coming Did

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John C. Dvorak: It was all green
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Adam Curry: All green squares
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responses from the M five M
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now let's see what thought of
everything. This is Andrew

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Unknown: reporting is that Trump
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did so poorly, the first day of
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way that he seems to have
reacted and changed his

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presentation today was to speak
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the client as much as possible,
much more than the others didn't

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say that they didn't. I mean, to
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that is when he said that Trump
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Adam Curry: So they were really
struggling to find anything to

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talk about,

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John C. Dvorak: or making stuff
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Adam Curry: Oh, no, it's great.
It's nobody knows what Trump

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said, All you got to do is
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and you get stuff like this,

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attacking pence, White House
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press secretary and other top
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send out a more forceful tweet.
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that there was a general
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this is a really bad situation.
We've got to do something about

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this. And so they tried to
convince Trump to send something

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else out to encourage people to
be peaceful. And he did. He did

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about 14 minutes later, when he
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police and law enforcement.
They're truly on the side of our

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country stay peaceful, that it
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here's the thing, Wolf, I'm told
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Trump did not want to add stay
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tweet. He was very resistant to
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bad the situation was how we
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reluctantly begrudge the state
peaceful at the end of that

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tweet, but he did not initially
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raising as his there on the
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argument that he was trying to
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create calm in the midst of the
violence will important point

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John C. Dvorak: Do that all the
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thing there's no evidence of
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Adam Curry: important point.
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John C. Dvorak: believable. I'm
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because that clip is so
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Adam Curry: Well, they couldn't
they couldn't address I just

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would have loved to have heard
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people. And it was cool. The way
he showed is exactly what we do

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when you get a clip out of
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cut it off and you let it run.
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quite. He still he could have
done better. And anyone who

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wants to do this kind of
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any of this. There

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Unknown: are two groups,
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the capital that day one is
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radicalized Trump supporters,
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groups. And the truth of the
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impeachment managers could have
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back to 2015 2016. If they
wanted to talk about Trump

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playing footsie with these far
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went back as far as the first
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Trump said, stand back and stand
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been playing footsie with these
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years. Now, this

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Adam Curry: is the same Jake
Jake Tapper who on Thursday, we

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played a clip of him saying,
Well, yeah, CNN was even used. I

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shared and reporting there, it's
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fantastic. CNN has the
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super clip all that crap from
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about canceled culture, which is
what the lawyer referred to this

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is, this is a form of extreme
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Unknown: and the corruption of
the term canceled culture is

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incredible. I mean, a
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conversation about whether or
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dumb 10 years ago and whether or
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a conversation in a debate
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insurrection is not about that's
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John C. Dvorak: the big expert
now he's like a linguist.

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Adam Curry: He almost said
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caught himself just in time.
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John C. Dvorak: is some is a is
a made up term and it's recent.

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And it's kind of it's really not
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doesn't it means a lot of
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people. But now how can you
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pre corrupted.

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Adam Curry: Well, yeah, this is
as I said, Jake Tapper is very,

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very pissed off.

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John C. Dvorak: Because all the
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numbers and all. Oh, yeah.

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Adam Curry: There was no, there
was one. There were a couple of

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moments actually, where the
truth just came out loud and

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clear. I don't know if anyone
caught it. This is one of our

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producers. Well, one of our
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Unknown: showed her gram for it.
And so Sara Cruz, Senator

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Marshall, Sharon Kramer submits
a a question for the counselor

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for Donald Trump.

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Read it just as a politician
raising bail for riders

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encourage more riding

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counsel as five minutes. Yes.
Counsel yield back.

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Adam Curry: Exactly. Beautiful.
Yes, that's exactly it. But then

449
00:26:15,630 --> 00:26:19,860
we had another superstar who was
clearly put into just just as

450
00:26:19,860 --> 00:26:26,100
cannon fodder. Like, oh my
goodness. Stacy Plaskett from

451
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:30,510
the US Virgin Islands. Donlin.
Don Lemon, all ma'am. And he

452
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just he just, he really loved
that she was there. And you

453
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:39,120
know, really? Just her being
there showed how racist Trump

454
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,090
and his cronies and his lawyers
really are.

455
00:26:42,690 --> 00:26:45,120
Unknown: Trump's legal team
engaging in all sorts of what

456
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:49,290
about ism playing out of context
clips, and an effort to argue

457
00:26:49,290 --> 00:26:53,190
the former president words dude
inside the Capitol writers, many

458
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:55,560
of those clips showing people of
color, especially black women,

459
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,710
speaking about the Black Lives
Matter protests we saw this

460
00:26:58,710 --> 00:27:02,070
summer impeachment manager and
house delegates, Stacey Plaskett

461
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:02,700
noticed

462
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:09,360
I'll briefly say that defense
counsel's put a lot of videos

463
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:17,070
out in their, in their defense
playing clip, after clip of

464
00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:21,570
black women talking about
fighting for a cause or an issue

465
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,130
or a policy was not lost on me
as so many of them were people

466
00:27:26,130 --> 00:27:31,560
of color. And women and black
women, black women like myself,

467
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:35,550
who are sick and tired of being
sick and tired for our children.

468
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Your children, our children.
This summer, things happened

469
00:27:44,910 --> 00:27:48,720
that were violent. But there
were also things that gave some

470
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,920
of us black women, great
comfort, seeing Amish people

471
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,840
from Pennsylvania, standing up
with us. Members of Congress

472
00:27:58,050 --> 00:28:03,990
fighting up with us. And so I
thought we were past that. I

473
00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:05,190
think maybe we're not.

474
00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:12,120
Adam Curry: Brother Amish lives
matter, baby. That's an

475
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,700
interesting there is Wait, wait,
wait, I have a second clip to

476
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:18,600
this. Because this is the
superstar. This is how she went

477
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,340
in. You're racist. She was just
saying you're racist. Okay,

478
00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:26,010
everybody knows it. Everybody
sees it. You play these clips,

479
00:28:26,010 --> 00:28:28,830
you're racist. And then she went
all the way to the end. She went

480
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:29,610
for the Mic drop.

481
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,210
Unknown: The point is this, too
by the time you call the Calvary

482
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:40,260
cavalry. Not Calvary, the
cavalry? Oh 1000s of supporters

483
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:46,110
on January 6, and event he had
invited them to he had every

484
00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:52,770
reason to know that they were
armed, violent and ready to

485
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,170
migrate or a fight. He knew who
he was calling and the violence

486
00:28:58,170 --> 00:29:02,340
they were capable of. And he
still gave his marching orders

487
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,520
to go to the capitol and, quote,
fight like hell to stop the

488
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,770
steel. How else was that going
to happen? If they had stayed at

489
00:29:13,770 --> 00:29:18,600
the lips? Maybe it would have
just been too violently in fight

490
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:23,790
in protest with their words. But
to come to the Capitol. That is

491
00:29:23,790 --> 00:29:28,500
why this is different. And that
is why he must be convicted and

492
00:29:28,530 --> 00:29:33,810
acquitted. disqualify

493
00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:38,370
Adam Curry: I almost drove off
the

494
00:29:38,370 --> 00:29:41,280
John C. Dvorak: road when I
heard that. That was a beauty.

495
00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:44,970
Adam Curry: Just all the way to
the end and now go live with

496
00:29:44,970 --> 00:29:49,050
that. It's like forgetting your
wife when you receive the McCone

497
00:29:49,050 --> 00:29:52,440
award. You know, it's just one
of those things that will stay

498
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,420
with you for the rest of your
life. Uh huh. Yeah. Oh, no, that

499
00:29:57,420 --> 00:30:00,000
wasn't the worst part. The fact
that I had remembered to thank

500
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,650
medicated Pete of the Howard
Stern Show that was kind of the

501
00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:08,070
killer. I'm amazed that she
wanted to be my valentine

502
00:30:10,110 --> 00:30:12,960
John C. Dvorak: as well that
happened to watch the actress

503
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,370
that double the big mouth. That
one of the Oscars

504
00:30:17,429 --> 00:30:21,359
Adam Curry: one the one with the
big mouth. Oh Julia Roberts. No,

505
00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:21,539
no,

506
00:30:21,540 --> 00:30:22,800
John C. Dvorak: no, she didn't
win an Oscar. He

507
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,700
Adam Curry: got a big mouth.

508
00:30:24,479 --> 00:30:26,639
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, no the one
that one too. It's the one that

509
00:30:26,639 --> 00:30:28,889
she's always getting killed and
you're in the movie. She was the

510
00:30:28,889 --> 00:30:33,059
boxer and people in the shower
know who I'm talking about? You

511
00:30:33,059 --> 00:30:38,519
got a big giant mouth. For
cricket, thank you her husband

512
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:39,479
and they got divorced.

513
00:30:42,030 --> 00:30:42,870
Adam Curry: And Hathaway.

514
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:47,970
John C. Dvorak: No, no. You got
a big one to Academy. Who is the

515
00:30:47,970 --> 00:30:51,180
GOP operative word? Hillary
Swank, Hillary Swank.

516
00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:56,730
Adam Curry: There we go. Of all
the big mouths that she's not

517
00:30:56,730 --> 00:30:58,020
the first to come to mind.

518
00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:03,300
John C. Dvorak: No, but she's
got a big mouth. Now. We got it.

519
00:31:03,570 --> 00:31:06,060
I just want to mention something
here. Because we're playing a

520
00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:10,500
lot of these clips. All of a lot
of CNN, CNN is reign of terror

521
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:13,320
is over. Well, this year, at
least

522
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,660
Adam Curry: we can still get I
mean, the more the reign of

523
00:31:15,660 --> 00:31:18,990
terror is over and the raiding
sink, the more crazy they

524
00:31:18,990 --> 00:31:20,280
weren't. They become well,

525
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,580
John C. Dvorak: it's all beside
the point. Because when Zucker

526
00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:27,570
leaves, which is this year,
that's right. And he's quitting

527
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,900
because he's, you know, he's,
well, I was fine when I was

528
00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:34,650
there. He should be in here. I
believe he's supposed to leave

529
00:31:34,650 --> 00:31:38,700
at the end of the year, but I
believe he will leave earlier

530
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:40,680
because they always say you
know, they always give a big

531
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:43,770
lead time. And then they get out
of there. When things start to

532
00:31:43,770 --> 00:31:47,730
sink. And it's going to bring
somebody else in and they're

533
00:31:47,730 --> 00:31:51,450
going to just clean house. These
people that were that are on the

534
00:31:51,450 --> 00:31:53,910
shows aren't going to be on the
shows much longer. Well,

535
00:31:53,910 --> 00:31:56,580
Adam Curry: foxes already is
already mixing everything up.

536
00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:57,120
There are

537
00:31:57,150 --> 00:31:59,130
John C. Dvorak: a fox has
already gone through the house

538
00:31:59,130 --> 00:32:00,480
cleaning. Yeah,

539
00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:03,810
Adam Curry: more or less. I
think there's more to come. And

540
00:32:03,810 --> 00:32:08,220
last night, though, last night.
SNL opens up with a fake Tucker

541
00:32:08,220 --> 00:32:13,770
Carlson segment. It wasn't even
I mean, I can laugh if it's

542
00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:16,770
really funny. And it was it a
Giuliani and Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz

543
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,100
look kind of right. But it just
the writing was poor. It wasn't

544
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:22,350
very funny. They should just
skip it. If they can't write

545
00:32:22,350 --> 00:32:26,790
anything hilarious. You get an
opening for SNL, the cold open,

546
00:32:26,790 --> 00:32:31,590
you expect something really
dynamite just wasn't really

547
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:36,120
there. Just just everyone's I
don't know, what are they going

548
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,780
to do? They've got to switch
their mentality. But that'll be

549
00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:43,410
hard, because the new cycle will
continue to grasp as much as

550
00:32:43,410 --> 00:32:47,160
they can on and whatever Trump
is doing, and there and he will

551
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,680
stay in the news. This is a clip
I've been wanting to play for

552
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,470
over two weeks. I just wanted to
have the right moment to do it.

553
00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:56,610
And I think we're at the right
moment. Now if we look at all

554
00:32:56,610 --> 00:33:01,500
the things that what you just
said about the bull crap, the

555
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:07,290
doctored evidence, you and I and
the, you know, the producers who

556
00:33:07,290 --> 00:33:09,720
produce the show, we can't be
the only ones who know this.

557
00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:13,500
People know this. Now these
things are coming out. Younger

558
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:17,880
people don't watch cable news.
They they they're apathetic to

559
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,250
it. They're just like, whatever.
I don't care. It's all doctored.

560
00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:23,250
It's all bull crap. But also
look at what's happening.

561
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,570
politically. I think Mitch
McConnell, what the hell was

562
00:33:30,570 --> 00:33:33,600
that yesterday? Who were you
trying to appeal to? Because

563
00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:37,830
everybody thinks he's a dick.
Now. Did you see that speech he

564
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:39,840
gave after the after the vote?

565
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,950
John C. Dvorak: And he said, it
was unhinged, it totally

566
00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:47,250
Adam Curry: unhinged. And so he
he looks like a like a

567
00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:50,400
douchebag. for not doing that
before the vote to the

568
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,520
Democrats. And two Republicans
are like, What is wrong with

569
00:33:53,520 --> 00:34:01,410
you, bro? There so he's been
uncovered and we know his family

570
00:34:01,410 --> 00:34:05,790
is deep into a can? We don't
know for sure. But I mean, it

571
00:34:05,820 --> 00:34:09,660
would appear that his family has
his family in law has deep ties

572
00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:13,110
into the Chinese Communist
Party. We have Gavin Newsom, now

573
00:34:13,110 --> 00:34:18,960
with enough votes in California
to be recalled. We have Cuomo in

574
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,320
a way,

575
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:21,810
John C. Dvorak: just before I
know there's a laundry list

576
00:34:21,810 --> 00:34:26,820
coming which is great. But Gavin
does not look happy. We get to

577
00:34:26,820 --> 00:34:31,200
see him. He is just he has got
to look on his face. Like I

578
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,250
don't need to be the second
Governor recalled within recent

579
00:34:35,250 --> 00:34:38,940
memory because it's together guy
disappeared off the face of the

580
00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:41,610
earth and I wanted to be
president. Yeah, that's

581
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,570
Adam Curry: exactly. And that's
another thing. And when you

582
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,740
watch this Adam Curtis
documentary, one of the main

583
00:34:49,740 --> 00:34:52,110
things and again, I've only seen
three episodes, one of the main

584
00:34:52,110 --> 00:34:55,350
things title, what's the title?
It's called, I can't get you out

585
00:34:55,350 --> 00:35:02,010
of my mind. Okay, and he got him
And Mao's wife, who was an

586
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,760
actress, and a singer and a
dancer and an entertainer. But

587
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:11,400
she, she's the one. Well, the
way he portrays it, that she had

588
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,090
all these pure thoughts of she
wanted the Cultural Revolution.

589
00:35:15,090 --> 00:35:18,060
And that's what she was
bringing. And while she thought

590
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:20,910
that this would would finally
complete the revolution, and the

591
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:25,500
Chinese people would be free.
Mao was using it. He was using

592
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:30,240
the this this big movement to
get rid of his political enemies

593
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:33,480
for his own power inside the
party. And that's what the red

594
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,240
brigade was, you know, to, hey,
children, don't go to school.

595
00:35:36,420 --> 00:35:40,530
Let's go knock on people and go
grab them. very analogous to

596
00:35:40,530 --> 00:35:44,340
what's happening right now, both
with the black lives matter. But

597
00:35:44,340 --> 00:35:50,130
also, look at all the commotion,
the cultural change that that is

598
00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:53,910
trying to be forced through. And
look at the perhaps political

599
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:57,750
enemies, presidential hopefuls,
mainly Gavin Newsom, and

600
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,860
Governor Cuomo in New York. I
think they both had presidential

601
00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:06,660
aspirations, no way and Cuomo,
he might wind up going to jail,

602
00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:12,480
or to the electric chair. And
this is no joke what this guy

603
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,920
did. And and what I'm hearing
now.

604
00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:19,320
John C. Dvorak: And he doctored
evidence.

605
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:22,440
Adam Curry: He did he literally
doctored evidence, and there's

606
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,360
an admission on tape. The
evidence was doctored. And the

607
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,880
reason was what didn't want to
report the real numbers, because

608
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,010
he was afraid that Trump
administration would use it

609
00:36:32,010 --> 00:36:35,820
against him. Yeah, most likely.
But here's the thing that I

610
00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:40,380
understand 75% Of all the
nursing homes in New York are

611
00:36:40,380 --> 00:36:44,730
privately owned, and have
investors and from one of our

612
00:36:44,730 --> 00:36:51,150
producers even received a note
saying, because they're private,

613
00:36:51,180 --> 00:36:55,770
and it's ever since they were
sold to investors, they really

614
00:36:55,770 --> 00:36:59,640
run it on a skimpy staff very,
you know, to the skeleton crew

615
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,570
to make as much profit as
possible. So the accusation and

616
00:37:03,570 --> 00:37:09,660
these, the accusation is that
Cuomo receives a full on block

617
00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:12,990
of votes, over a million votes
from this very powerful lobby,

618
00:37:12,990 --> 00:37:15,780
who are the main investors in
the nursing homes.

619
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,650
Interestingly, it is the Hasidic
Jews wishes. So there's other

620
00:37:22,650 --> 00:37:27,090
things we can think about cromoz
relationship with them. And the

621
00:37:27,090 --> 00:37:30,510
accusation is that he put
infected people into the nursing

622
00:37:30,510 --> 00:37:35,220
homes, into the commercial
nursing homes, because that

623
00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:39,780
would immediately bang on, you
know, six or 10 or 30 grand onto

624
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:42,090
their bottom line that they
would get from, from the

625
00:37:42,090 --> 00:37:44,310
government from the federal
government for each case they

626
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:48,060
had in there. So it was taking
him out of hospitals, where and

627
00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:51,450
also, you know, just wherever
more money could be made on the

628
00:37:51,450 --> 00:37:59,820
seizing cadavers? Brother that
is going to look bad for him if

629
00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:04,740
that. Yeah, and it kind of now
it also puts into context a

630
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:07,800
little bit why the Hasidic Jews
were all pissed off at him. Hey,

631
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,250
man, you're a boy doing yelling
at us to go inside? We're doing

632
00:38:11,250 --> 00:38:16,230
the Hava Nagila baby get out of
here. We own you. Maybe that was

633
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:19,260
his pushback, or you know, to
show some kind of strength, but

634
00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:25,590
Wow. Just wow. Okay. So anyway,
so before we get into that, you

635
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:29,580
have all these people being
uncovered. There was there was

636
00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:32,670
another, something really
interesting where it was it

637
00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:36,540
here. The Lincoln project,

638
00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:41,010
John C. Dvorak: the Lincoln and
hilarious. Yeah, Chris knows

639
00:38:41,010 --> 00:38:43,500
guys have all pocketed 5 million
plus

640
00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:46,470
Adam Curry: at least at least
well, that's the way you do a

641
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:50,640
gig like that. But, but they're
being taken down. That's a take

642
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,130
down. Come on, man. That's
someone's taking him down, for

643
00:38:53,130 --> 00:38:57,570
sure. And then, yeah, we got
little, little annoying thing.

644
00:38:57,570 --> 00:39:00,600
Stanford Children's Hospital,
there's a pediatrician who has

645
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:06,090
been arrested on lewd charges
with his patients. He's 33,

646
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,950
which is what got my attention.
You know, Zuckerberg tracking

647
00:39:10,980 --> 00:39:15,450
all of this stuff. It's all
coming to light. And this, of

648
00:39:15,450 --> 00:39:20,580
course, is what fuels the
following clip. As Dr. Steve

649
00:39:20,580 --> 00:39:23,940
polygenic returned to Infowars,
several weeks ago, and we didn't

650
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:27,120
talk about it at the time. I
think it's worth a minute 30 To

651
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,600
listen to what he was talking
about. Then this was after the

652
00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:35,760
certification of the votes. And
this is after the 20th. After,

653
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:37,920
after Biden was inaugurated,

654
00:39:37,950 --> 00:39:40,710
Unknown: I said to you there was
a military coup and it's still

655
00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:45,330
in effect. What exactly is Trump
doing? You think Trump is just

656
00:39:45,330 --> 00:39:48,960
sitting there and waiting and
writing a novel? What do you

657
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,860
think is going on when we're
exposing the Republicans, the

658
00:39:52,860 --> 00:39:57,630
Democrats, we're exposing the
Lincoln project we've exposed

659
00:39:57,660 --> 00:40:01,470
all the senators McConnell How
do you expose a guy like

660
00:40:01,470 --> 00:40:04,680
McConnell, if you don't allow
him to come out and show what a

661
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,610
coward he really is, and how
dangerous he was, or Mitt

662
00:40:08,610 --> 00:40:11,790
Romney, how many times do we
have to say Mitt Romney was in

663
00:40:11,790 --> 00:40:15,210
Bain Capital? It was correct.
The only thing I'm saying to you

664
00:40:15,210 --> 00:40:18,540
and why it went on the show
wasn't to be right or wrong.

665
00:40:18,570 --> 00:40:22,860
That's not what I'm about ball.
I am the son of the Republic.

666
00:40:22,890 --> 00:40:26,610
And in the Republic, there are
people with me who believe in

667
00:40:26,610 --> 00:40:29,790
what we're doing. What is
unfolding, I'm telling you,

668
00:40:29,790 --> 00:40:33,060
we're arresting different
people, how long will it take? I

669
00:40:33,060 --> 00:40:37,350
just told you, what I do not
know. And I don't want to know

670
00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:41,250
is the ongoing timing is this a
day a week, it's a couple of

671
00:40:41,250 --> 00:40:45,870
months, I said to you takes
time, when in fact we initiated

672
00:40:45,870 --> 00:40:50,310
we did this years ago to do a
sting operation. That was years

673
00:40:50,310 --> 00:40:53,730
ago, where it was marked and
people didn't believe that the

674
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:57,750
the the minions weren't
controlled or that we had a

675
00:40:57,750 --> 00:41:00,750
sense of what was going on on
the ballot, as well as the

676
00:41:00,750 --> 00:41:04,770
voting machine. It turned out to
be exactly what we thought we

677
00:41:04,770 --> 00:41:07,980
knew exactly what the timing was
when the votes came out. And

678
00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:08,880
they were fraud.

679
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:11,310
Adam Curry: Just want to always
make sure we give you all the

680
00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:14,550
information that's out there.
Now

681
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:16,230
Unknown: deluded,

682
00:41:17,790 --> 00:41:22,020
Adam Curry: I have no opinion.
I'm not a psychiatrist, or

683
00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:28,260
psychologist. I'm barely a disc
jockey anymore. They have

684
00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:31,650
learned something that if you
had to if you couldn't go to

685
00:41:31,650 --> 00:41:38,220
work, because of COVID, you
couldn't say get up to $12,000

686
00:41:38,220 --> 00:41:41,580
that you can deduct off your
income tax. It's like a new

687
00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:45,060
thing. Yeah. If you're if you're
like an independent and then you

688
00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:50,280
don't have a paycheck. Okay.

689
00:41:52,170 --> 00:41:53,190
John C. Dvorak: Does that apply
to us?

690
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,500
Adam Curry: Yeah. And believe
me, I already thought about it.

691
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:59,340
No, because we kept working. In
fact, we should get danger pay

692
00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:02,310
because we never stopped
working. And we probably share

693
00:42:02,310 --> 00:42:09,480
pay, and we probably won't stop
working until April. That's the

694
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,690
bike. We won't take any time off
till then this change your pay?

695
00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:17,310
What's going on? Is hazardous.
Let's see how we're doing in the

696
00:42:17,310 --> 00:42:19,830
world. My daughter, as we know
is still locked down. They've

697
00:42:19,830 --> 00:42:25,110
extended the curfew it is from
9:30pm Liberty am no but I do

698
00:42:25,110 --> 00:42:30,750
have news and information from
Down Under. Hello, Australian

699
00:42:30,750 --> 00:42:34,770
friends, brothers sisters, you
may recall me telling you that

700
00:42:34,830 --> 00:42:38,940
it's just not true. And yes,
right. Melbourne back and locked

701
00:42:38,940 --> 00:42:41,730
down here is dictator, Dan, we
are

702
00:42:41,730 --> 00:42:46,290
Unknown: having cases test
positive. And we in rapid time

703
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,280
we get notified of that positive
test result. By the time we find

704
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,480
that case as positive. They've
already infected their close

705
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,720
contacts, their family, people
they live with people they've

706
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:02,010
spent time with. That makes it
incredibly difficult, incredibly

707
00:43:02,010 --> 00:43:06,270
difficult to do contact tracing,
because there is no gap if you

708
00:43:06,270 --> 00:43:09,570
like between when we have the
first case and their close

709
00:43:09,570 --> 00:43:12,780
contacts and potentially others
that they have spent time with

710
00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:17,280
the whole process because of the
hype infectivity and the speed

711
00:43:17,310 --> 00:43:21,090
at which this UK variant moves,
the whole process has been

712
00:43:21,090 --> 00:43:27,390
condensed down. And it is now I
am sad to have to report it is

713
00:43:27,390 --> 00:43:31,530
the advice to me that we must
assume that there are further

714
00:43:31,530 --> 00:43:35,160
cases in the community than we
have positive results for and

715
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:40,680
that it is moving at a velocity
that has not been seen anywhere

716
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,610
in our country.

717
00:43:41,850 --> 00:43:44,400
Adam Curry: PCR tests. That's
right came from the same place

718
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,130
that was so locked down and
solid. Nothing would happen.

719
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:48,660
Okay, chocolate. Yes.

720
00:43:49,439 --> 00:43:51,299
John C. Dvorak: Well, I was
saying you didn't let me you

721
00:43:51,299 --> 00:43:54,089
steamrolled me here. I mean, I
didn't expect to switch to

722
00:43:54,089 --> 00:43:55,229
COVID. So Oh, I'm

723
00:43:55,230 --> 00:43:57,300
Adam Curry: so sorry. I thought
we were done.

724
00:43:58,020 --> 00:44:00,390
John C. Dvorak: Well, yeah, you
thought but you didn't ask.

725
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:08,820
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I'm
sorry. What would you like to

726
00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:09,360
do?

727
00:44:10,380 --> 00:44:13,440
John C. Dvorak: Oh, are you
going to patronize me? Play your

728
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:13,920
clips?

729
00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:17,010
Adam Curry: No waiting for you?
I'm sorry. I had no idea. I

730
00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:21,150
thought we were just patronizing
me. Right. And that was humor

731
00:44:21,150 --> 00:44:26,580
and irony. Woven into one. And
please tell me what you want to

732
00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:29,670
John C. Dvorak: do. Because I
just asked off kilter now.

733
00:44:30,330 --> 00:44:31,710
Adam Curry: Let's not do it.

734
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,460
John C. Dvorak: Well, it's hard.
I can't go all the way back to

735
00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:38,250
the election thing. If you
already started on the code. We

736
00:44:38,250 --> 00:44:38,670
came up

737
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,120
Adam Curry: came out of
Shinnick. I let spaces dropped.

738
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,210
You didn't jump in that I moved
to the next topic. That's what

739
00:44:45,210 --> 00:44:47,790
happened. That's that's how the
show works. There's no saying

740
00:44:47,790 --> 00:44:52,050
Unknown: oh, we're on you're on
a roll. No, no. And I stopped I

741
00:44:52,050 --> 00:44:53,580
wait, and you said he's deluded.

742
00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:57,750
John C. Dvorak: Wait, you went
right onto your I round up. Oh,

743
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:58,890
rewrite the tape.

744
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:59,970
Adam Curry: I wish I could

745
00:45:01,469 --> 00:45:06,029
John C. Dvorak: All right. No, I
got nothing else. All right.

746
00:45:06,569 --> 00:45:08,399
Yes. Good. It'll be good on
Thursday. Let's

747
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,490
Adam Curry: go back then. Yeah,
I can maybe this will help us

748
00:45:11,490 --> 00:45:15,270
get back into and this is CBS
about Cuomo.

749
00:45:15,299 --> 00:45:17,609
Unknown: Tonight there are
bipartisan calls for an

750
00:45:17,609 --> 00:45:20,939
investigation into New York
Governor Andrew Cuomo after his

751
00:45:20,939 --> 00:45:24,089
top aide admitted to Democratic
lawmakers that the Cuomo

752
00:45:24,089 --> 00:45:27,959
administration intentionally
underreported the state's COVID

753
00:45:27,959 --> 00:45:31,589
death toll in nursing homes. In
recent weeks a court order and

754
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:34,139
the State's Attorney General
forced Cuomo 's office to

755
00:45:34,139 --> 00:45:39,569
acknowledge that the death toll
is nearly 15,000 1000s More than

756
00:45:39,569 --> 00:45:42,329
previously reported. The
governor's aide said it was done

757
00:45:42,329 --> 00:45:45,029
out of fear that the Trump
administration would use the

758
00:45:45,029 --> 00:45:46,859
numbers against Cuomo.

759
00:45:47,850 --> 00:45:50,310
John C. Dvorak: So I didn't know
the numbers were that high.

760
00:45:50,399 --> 00:45:55,079
Adam Curry: Yeah. Because wasn't
it 6000 Originally, and now it's

761
00:45:55,079 --> 00:46:00,209
15,000. And I in this is the
cool things from the post. The

762
00:46:00,209 --> 00:46:00,659
Department of

763
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,760
John C. Dvorak: what's that
percentage of the total of

764
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,360
deaths?

765
00:46:04,890 --> 00:46:09,240
Adam Curry: Didn't they have
didn't New York have what 50,000

766
00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:14,520
At least New York Post the
Department of Justice

767
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,040
investigates the Cuomo
administration's refusal to turn

768
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,220
over data on nursing home
deaths, a huge conflict would

769
00:46:20,220 --> 00:46:22,680
arise in the case if the case
were handed to the powerful

770
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,240
Manhattan federal prosecutor.
That is because Audrey Strauss,

771
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:31,950
the US Attorney for the Southern
District is the mother in law of

772
00:46:31,950 --> 00:46:38,880
top Cuomo aide, Melissa DeRosa.
That's the person who blew the

773
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,930
whistle on this whole thing.
She's the she's the one that

774
00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:49,950
admitted the law. Now the know
the the daughter, the daughter,

775
00:46:51,810 --> 00:46:58,080
Melissa DeRosa, who works for
Cuomo. And who admitted to this.

776
00:46:58,470 --> 00:47:02,400
She's the daughter in law of the
US Attorney for the Southern

777
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,030
District.

778
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,020
John C. Dvorak: Almost got his
Tintin a ringer.

779
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,260
Adam Curry: Well, he already had
that with his little bars with

780
00:47:10,260 --> 00:47:10,620
his.

781
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:12,900
John C. Dvorak: I mean, he's
brilliant first guy this

782
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:14,430
indicted after getting an Emmy.

783
00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:22,320
Adam Curry: Are we sure about
that? I'm sure. So there must be

784
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,200
some actor somewhere who got
indicted after getting an Emmy.

785
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,880
John C. Dvorak: Well, maybe.
Anyway, I want to mention, I

786
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,420
don't have the clips. But I do
have did listen to the whole

787
00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:36,570
presentation I'll probably try
to do it's hard to drag clips

788
00:47:36,570 --> 00:47:41,400
out of some of these people who
just go on and on. But there's a

789
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,300
woman who comes on one of these
obscure video channels. And she

790
00:47:45,300 --> 00:47:48,090
goes through all the research,
there's only really three

791
00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:52,770
papers, and she tosses them over
a shoulder after she reviews

792
00:47:52,770 --> 00:47:57,480
them about these new variants
and how dangerous they are.

793
00:47:58,020 --> 00:48:01,740
These are all based on rat
studies. It's just bullcrap.

794
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,280
There is no studies, there's no
proof whatsoever. This is all

795
00:48:05,370 --> 00:48:07,980
again, concocted. Yeah, a

796
00:48:08,550 --> 00:48:11,430
Adam Curry: lot of science
talking out there. A lot of

797
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:12,150
science, a lot

798
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:15,990
John C. Dvorak: of stuff. If you
go to bit shoot and a new tube

799
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:18,780
and some of these other systems.
They're good, you get some good

800
00:48:18,780 --> 00:48:22,680
a lot of it's a bit much but you
can get through the fact that

801
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,550
they some of them are nutty.
They've got solid evidence in

802
00:48:26,550 --> 00:48:29,550
there mixed in that which is a
problem. But the presentation is

803
00:48:29,550 --> 00:48:33,900
a large part of it. I mean, we
have I mean we put nutty stuff

804
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:39,360
in this show too, for other
reasons, but it's just material

805
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,670
out there that proves that this
is all a lot of it's just

806
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:42,090
rigged.

807
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,790
Adam Curry: And let me give you
a couple of things so lockstep

808
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:48,960
with with Australia, New Zealand
is in lockdown for three days,

809
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:57,060
of course. The where's it here?
Yes, the latest CDC data on

810
00:48:57,060 --> 00:49:01,950
vaccines, which we'll talk about
in a minute, 653 deaths 12,044

811
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:09,090
injuries following the receiving
the so called vaccine. And just

812
00:49:09,090 --> 00:49:15,690
to make sure everyone feels good
at home in Toronto, a retirement

813
00:49:15,690 --> 00:49:20,370
home remove the door handles
from the residence room so they

814
00:49:20,370 --> 00:49:26,820
couldn't leave. That'll contain
your COVID That'll do it. And in

815
00:49:26,850 --> 00:49:32,130
The Guardian reporting what they
took they took the hit the door

816
00:49:32,130 --> 00:49:32,550
handles

817
00:49:32,580 --> 00:49:35,160
John C. Dvorak: on the back of a
police car.

818
00:49:35,370 --> 00:49:37,590
Adam Curry: Yeah, kind of like
that. Except it's the room.

819
00:49:39,090 --> 00:49:46,500
Yeah. In the UK scandal, people
with learning disabilities had

820
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:50,100
been given Do Not Resuscitate
orders during the second wave of

821
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:54,180
the pandemic, in spite of
widespread condemnation of the

822
00:49:54,180 --> 00:50:01,320
practice last year and an urgent
investigation The call the Care

823
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,260
Quality Commission said In
December the inappropriate Do

824
00:50:04,260 --> 00:50:08,010
Not Attempt cardiopulmonary
Pulmonary Resuscitation notices

825
00:50:08,010 --> 00:50:11,760
had caused potentially avoidable
deaths last year. This is your

826
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,430
this is socialized medicine. I
want to remind you this is the

827
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:20,220
National Health System. And they
have determined that PDF battle.

828
00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:24,120
Yes. And the weakest ones. If
you got Down syndrome. I know

829
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,570
what learning disabilities. I
mean, that's pretty broad. That

830
00:50:27,570 --> 00:50:30,060
could be URI on any given day.

831
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:32,400
John C. Dvorak: Could be
anybody. Yeah.

832
00:50:33,810 --> 00:50:37,050
Adam Curry: So I thought that
was. That's crazy.

833
00:50:37,050 --> 00:50:38,460
John C. Dvorak: Good be Bill
Gates.

834
00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:41,640
Adam Curry: I got some Bill
Gates stuff for you. Well,

835
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,110
John C. Dvorak: I have the Bill
Gates and you have the Bill

836
00:50:43,110 --> 00:50:43,800
Gates clip.

837
00:50:43,950 --> 00:50:47,010
Adam Curry: I got to Bill Gates
clips. But before we get to Bill

838
00:50:47,010 --> 00:50:48,720
Gates, let me just make sure
we're not missing anything is

839
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:52,860
anything you wanted to do? I
don't don't want to. Here's the

840
00:50:52,860 --> 00:51:00,690
seat, no steamrolls word but
steamrolling anything. Okay,

841
00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:04,590
kids back to school, CDC issuing
all kinds of lay mass advice.

842
00:51:04,590 --> 00:51:08,580
Here's the latest trick. If it
wasn't terrorizing enough for

843
00:51:08,580 --> 00:51:10,860
ISIS, let's do it to the kids.
Tonight, the

844
00:51:10,860 --> 00:51:13,770
Unknown: CDC unveiling their
long awaited roadmap for getting

845
00:51:13,770 --> 00:51:17,250
kids back in the classroom
safely. A top priority for the

846
00:51:17,250 --> 00:51:18,360
Biden administration.

847
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:21,120
We are also going to be guided
by science, we are going to be

848
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,560
guided by our medical experts.

849
00:51:22,740 --> 00:51:26,670
The CDC creating a nationwide
color coded system ranging from

850
00:51:26,670 --> 00:51:30,270
lower risk Blue Zones up to red,
the highest rate of community

851
00:51:30,270 --> 00:51:34,260
transmission in blue and yellow
zones full in person instruction

852
00:51:34,290 --> 00:51:38,880
is recommended. But in orange in
red hybrid or reduced attendance

853
00:51:38,910 --> 00:51:42,750
is encouraged and only with
strict enforcement of six feet

854
00:51:42,750 --> 00:51:45,750
of distance and masks in all
zones.

855
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:51,060
Adam Curry: I mean, come on.
This is redic and then

856
00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:53,490
John C. Dvorak: worked with the
work with moods. Bush.

857
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:56,640
Adam Curry: Yeah, with the with
the flight shaming. With the

858
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,240
TSA. Yeah. But it's just another
terror coding.

859
00:52:00,630 --> 00:52:01,560
Unknown: It's orange.

860
00:52:03,540 --> 00:52:05,700
John C. Dvorak: They had the
Oakland Airport during that era.

861
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,900
They had the actually printed
sign it was permanently orange.

862
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:10,740
Yes,

863
00:52:10,860 --> 00:52:13,560
Adam Curry: it didn't. It
beginning you could move it. You

864
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:13,770
can

865
00:52:15,630 --> 00:52:17,910
John C. Dvorak: change your but
there's just printed posters.

866
00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:22,170
Adam Curry: Here's the poster
with orange is good to go. Hi,

867
00:52:22,170 --> 00:52:28,620
my favorite guy, Michael
Osterholm. He is professor,

868
00:52:28,980 --> 00:52:32,700
professor in something very
important man because he is not

869
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:37,710
on the the Joe Biden COVID
Response Team. I met him in

870
00:52:37,710 --> 00:52:41,220
March. How Joe Rogan when he was
predicting two and a half

871
00:52:41,220 --> 00:52:44,040
million people would die. He's
not apologized for the

872
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,890
switcheroo of the model or any
mistake there. But now he has a

873
00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:50,430
podcast because it's just not
good enough. He's not getting

874
00:52:50,430 --> 00:52:54,630
the message across to everybody.
And he has a fantastic knowledge

875
00:52:54,660 --> 00:53:01,140
analogy as to how dangerous the
situation we are in and and I

876
00:53:01,140 --> 00:53:02,430
hope you take it to heart.

877
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,910
Unknown: But to frame today's
podcast, I share with you a

878
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:09,360
quote from the late William
Arthur Ward who said the

879
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,590
pessimist complains about the
wind. The optimist expects it to

880
00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:19,620
change and the realist adjust
the sails. I'm a realist. I have

881
00:53:19,620 --> 00:53:23,670
done all my career. And the wins
seems to me to be a fitting and

882
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:28,170
ongoing metaphor in relation to
this pandemic. As many of you

883
00:53:28,170 --> 00:53:30,960
know, two weeks ago, when I was
on Meet the Press where I said,

884
00:53:31,230 --> 00:53:34,200
we could think of ourselves as
sitting on a beach looking out

885
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,540
at the ocean where the sky is
blue. Everything seems fine. But

886
00:53:39,540 --> 00:53:43,260
beyond the horizon, a hurricane
is approaching a hurricane of

887
00:53:43,260 --> 00:53:47,190
category five or more, is
sitting 400 miles offshore and

888
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:50,790
heading directly to our beach.
But because of the bright

889
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:56,610
sunshine, the blue skies and the
gentle breeze, the beachgoers

890
00:53:56,670 --> 00:54:02,250
were not the least bit alarmed.
It's two weeks later now. Now

891
00:54:02,250 --> 00:54:06,720
the hurricane, I'll call it
COVID Is 250 miles away, not

892
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:10,950
400. And as of this moment, all
the forecasts are saying is

893
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:15,180
still headed directly towards
us. That's our realistic

894
00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:17,400
situation. That truth

895
00:54:17,820 --> 00:54:18,690
John C. Dvorak: says

896
00:54:21,330 --> 00:54:26,700
Adam Curry: that's the truth. I
find that we got to make them

897
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:30,960
live by those words. Correct? Or
make anybody live by any word or

898
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,450
hurricane COVID, please. So what
is the result of all of this?

899
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,960
This nuttiness? Well, if you
haven't flown recently, and most

900
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,600
of you probably haven't,
domestic flights in United

901
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,270
States typically now start like
this

902
00:54:45,299 --> 00:54:49,319
Unknown: door is closed. If we
have to ask you more than once

903
00:54:49,319 --> 00:54:54,359
to cover your nose, mouth. Put
your mask on. You're not going

904
00:54:54,359 --> 00:54:57,749
to be rude. We are not going to
be nasty. We are going to simply

905
00:54:57,749 --> 00:55:01,289
take your seat number and your
name If and when we get where

906
00:55:01,289 --> 00:55:04,799
we're going, you will either be
arrested, fine, but you will

907
00:55:04,799 --> 00:55:07,169
also be placed on the no fly
list meaning you will not be

908
00:55:07,169 --> 00:55:10,289
able to fly anywhere high for
the rest of your life. We are

909
00:55:10,289 --> 00:55:14,999
government officials and
government property. If you

910
00:55:14,999 --> 00:55:18,509
choose to fly content or
character on the airplane, you

911
00:55:18,509 --> 00:55:21,209
will be arrested and face 20
years imprisonment, you also

912
00:55:21,209 --> 00:55:23,609
receive a $250,000 Fine.

913
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,850
John C. Dvorak: Okay, a couple
of things.

914
00:55:26,850 --> 00:55:28,470
Adam Curry: We are not
government property,

915
00:55:29,340 --> 00:55:31,020
John C. Dvorak: let's say
government property thing.

916
00:55:31,230 --> 00:55:33,810
Adam Curry: Well, I think
because she's licensed by the

917
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,280
FAA, and she does have the right
to apprehend you and other

918
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,430
things in the sky. She feels
that she is a government

919
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:44,790
employee. Well, and technically,
I think most of the airlines are

920
00:55:44,790 --> 00:55:47,820
now government owned, because
we're paying for it.

921
00:55:49,290 --> 00:55:51,810
John C. Dvorak: What airline was
that? You? Were one of our

922
00:55:51,810 --> 00:55:55,800
producers. His video I saw the
video. Oh, is video okay, what

923
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:02,160
airline was united? The Friendly
Skies? Yes. Well, I would never

924
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,790
fly tonight if I have a choice.
After listening to that message.

925
00:56:06,090 --> 00:56:09,390
That That arrogant message? If I
have a choice, I'm never going

926
00:56:09,390 --> 00:56:10,590
to fly united again.

927
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:15,090
Adam Curry: Well, do you think
it's going to be different on

928
00:56:15,090 --> 00:56:16,170
any other airline?

929
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,230
John C. Dvorak: Pilot? I have no
proof that that's the case. And

930
00:56:19,230 --> 00:56:22,500
I'll skip them too. But I have
no evidence and yet I only have

931
00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:24,030
evidence of United United

932
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:25,740
Adam Curry: Yep. off the list.

933
00:56:29,220 --> 00:56:30,900
John C. Dvorak: I mean, they
want customers and they're just

934
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:32,460
gonna be dicks.

935
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,020
Adam Curry: They don't want
customers. They don't want it to

936
00:56:37,020 --> 00:56:40,320
be working at all. I don't think
the government employees why?

937
00:56:40,830 --> 00:56:44,220
And you know what, there it is.
You feel you're a government

938
00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:47,760
employee and my goodness act
like one, don't you? That's

939
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,460
exactly there's there's the
problem. There's the problem.

940
00:56:50,910 --> 00:56:55,050
The minute you are you've been
compromised with some deputy

941
00:56:55,050 --> 00:56:59,310
status of a government employee.
Now you have power, the pigs can

942
00:56:59,310 --> 00:57:00,720
stand on their hind legs.

943
00:57:01,410 --> 00:57:06,150
John C. Dvorak: Now, I want to
play this gates clip and, and,

944
00:57:06,510 --> 00:57:11,730
and discuss it. Okay. I have you
probably have the same claim.

945
00:57:11,759 --> 00:57:13,799
Adam Curry: I hope not. Well,
you

946
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:20,430
John C. Dvorak: don't know me is
spelled gate, W S. Once you play

947
00:57:20,430 --> 00:57:20,910
this,

948
00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:25,890
Unknown: nobody would have
predicted that. I am Dr. Fauci

949
00:57:25,890 --> 00:57:31,470
would be so prominent in, you
know, really kind of evil

950
00:57:31,470 --> 00:57:34,680
theories about you know, did we
create the pandemic? Are we

951
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:40,140
trying to profit from it, and on
and on? And so, you know, I'm,

952
00:57:40,170 --> 00:57:43,950
I'm very surprised by that. I
hope it goes away. I hope it

953
00:57:43,950 --> 00:57:47,340
doesn't hold back, you know,
mask wearing or seeking out

954
00:57:47,340 --> 00:57:51,960
vaccines, this percentage that's
really misled by these

955
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,800
conspiracy theories. It's
unclear to me. There's millions

956
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,850
of messages out there, you know,
where my name are Dr. pouchy

957
00:57:59,850 --> 00:58:04,260
stain misused. But Do people
really believe that stuff? Yeah,

958
00:58:04,290 --> 00:58:07,050
you know, we're gonna have to
get educated about this over the

959
00:58:07,050 --> 00:58:10,530
next year and understand, you
know, what, how does it change

960
00:58:10,530 --> 00:58:14,700
people's behavior? How should we
have minimized this?

961
00:58:15,210 --> 00:58:17,250
Adam Curry: Is this the Indian
Express interview?

962
00:58:18,450 --> 00:58:20,640
John C. Dvorak: This is what I
was asking, what is this? Where

963
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,110
is this from? And how old is it?

964
00:58:22,169 --> 00:58:24,059
Adam Curry: I think it's new.
And it's from the Indian

965
00:58:24,059 --> 00:58:25,499
Express, that

966
00:58:25,529 --> 00:58:28,379
John C. Dvorak: it took this
long for Bill to figure this

967
00:58:28,379 --> 00:58:29,819
out. I'm very disturbed.

968
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:32,520
Adam Curry: Well, this is fun.
Guy, I have two other clips from

969
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,450
this. Okay, play him. Yeah, I
see that my level is low. Here.

970
00:58:36,450 --> 00:58:41,100
Let me just jack that up a bit.
So this is, this must be from

971
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:44,670
the same, from the same bit.
Here we go,

972
00:58:44,819 --> 00:58:48,569
Unknown: you know, as technology
evolves, particularly now that

973
00:58:48,569 --> 00:58:51,389
it's gotten into the
communications realm and the

974
00:58:51,389 --> 00:58:54,449
delivery of news so much, you
know, government's going to be

975
00:58:54,449 --> 00:58:59,879
looking at you know, how do you
do you stop anti vaccine

976
00:59:00,959 --> 00:59:04,439
misleading things from being
promoted to you, you know, of

977
00:59:04,439 --> 00:59:09,539
something sort of one ethnicity
against another. You know, how

978
00:59:09,539 --> 00:59:12,839
do you how do you maybe curb
that, you know, where you have,

979
00:59:12,989 --> 00:59:17,099
say, two religions have some
tension between them? And you

980
00:59:17,099 --> 00:59:21,209
know, even a politician might
say something that is stirring

981
00:59:21,209 --> 00:59:28,229
up trouble, how you moderate
disgust Well,

982
00:59:28,260 --> 00:59:31,200
Adam Curry: he's laughing about
politicians and then he's even

983
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,280
with the minute he hits
moderating is, his groin starts

984
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:35,760
sitting, you

985
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,830
John C. Dvorak: know, in that
first clip, he laughed when he

986
00:59:37,830 --> 00:59:39,210
said the word masks.

987
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:41,040
Adam Curry: Interesting.

988
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,610
John C. Dvorak: I mean, that's
his little tell, we've noticed

989
00:59:44,610 --> 00:59:46,860
this. He laughs when he's fully
shitting.

990
00:59:47,370 --> 00:59:49,260
Adam Curry: Well, let's listen
to the moderating life then,

991
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,840
Unknown: you know, even a
politician might say something

992
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:57,810
that is stirring up trouble, how
you moderate those things.

993
00:59:58,860 --> 01:00:00,870
Adam Curry: Is that funny?
Because he knows it's not

994
01:00:00,870 --> 01:00:05,670
moderation It means he means
deletion wiping bleach bit.

995
01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:09,450
John C. Dvorak: I don't think he
knows that on the surface that

996
01:00:09,450 --> 01:00:09,870
he's doing

997
01:00:09,870 --> 01:00:14,100
Adam Curry: this. No. No, not at
all. Another thing from this

998
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:18,660
documentary about the eyes being
the gateway to the, to the to

999
01:00:18,660 --> 01:00:23,880
the brain to the soul. You're
gonna love this thing. Yeah, I

1000
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,600
think subconsciously he's
laughing. Or he's he's tickled

1001
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,200
by it or maybe he's excited
because Keiko pickles Yeah,

1002
01:00:31,230 --> 01:00:33,810
probably tickled her Aha,
moderation.

1003
01:00:41,010 --> 01:00:45,030
Unknown: Something that is
stirring up trouble, how you

1004
01:00:45,060 --> 01:00:51,600
moderate? Those things will be
discussed, including telling the

1005
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,420
technology companies how the
country wants it handled?

1006
01:00:54,450 --> 01:00:59,250
Do you think Tech has a has a
role to play in making societies

1007
01:00:59,250 --> 01:01:00,210
less polarized?

1008
01:01:00,420 --> 01:01:03,600
Adam Curry: Maybe before we get
to this question, maybe it's

1009
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:06,750
because Bill is hearing this
guy. And he's like, Oh, this

1010
01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:11,160
guy's a tard? I'll just I'll
explain it slowly all over again

1011
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,160
for him. Does that be it? It's
probably it's probably just

1012
01:01:14,250 --> 01:01:17,130
we've got the right answer is a
racist. That's why it's like

1013
01:01:17,550 --> 01:01:19,200
this idea raised as

1014
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:21,420
Unknown: you're talking about
that back the mill wants a

1015
01:01:21,420 --> 01:01:21,990
handle

1016
01:01:23,790 --> 01:01:28,020
has a role to play in making
societies less polarized, is

1017
01:01:28,020 --> 01:01:29,760
that not their job at all?

1018
01:01:29,850 --> 01:01:34,200
It's the key job is for the
government to decide what those

1019
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,100
rules are, oh, make them clear
to the tech companies. But the

1020
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:44,160
overall thrust of what what do
you think about, you know,

1021
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,390
inciting ethnic tensions or, you
know, saying that all vaccines

1022
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:53,880
are bad. That's going to be a
political decision, again, that

1023
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,800
he left there, you know,
hopefully it's written in the

1024
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:56,790
clear Lomas

1025
01:01:56,910 --> 01:01:59,250
Adam Curry: enhance, rotate,
analyze, let's listen to what he

1026
01:01:59,250 --> 01:02:00,390
was laughing about, while not

1027
01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:03,540
Unknown: being ethnic tensions,
or, you know, saying that all

1028
01:02:03,540 --> 01:02:06,780
vaccines are bad. That's gonna
be

1029
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:14,100
Adam Curry: a big tail. All
vaccines are bad. They really

1030
01:02:15,870 --> 01:02:19,020
Unknown: been ethnic tensions
or, you know, saying that all

1031
01:02:19,020 --> 01:02:24,240
vaccines are bad. That's going
to be a political decision.

1032
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:29,340
That, you know, hopefully, it's
written in a clear way, so that

1033
01:02:29,340 --> 01:02:31,200
the tech platforms know what to
do.

1034
01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:34,979
But what we are seeing that we
are we you are, you're expecting

1035
01:02:35,009 --> 01:02:38,819
that there will be more
government involvement now in in

1036
01:02:38,819 --> 01:02:39,449
this area?

1037
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:44,160
Yeah. Well, my expertise is in
vaccines nowadays, but you know,

1038
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,850
that there is a hot discussion
about that. Right, right. Right,

1039
01:02:47,850 --> 01:02:48,090
right.

1040
01:02:48,510 --> 01:02:51,600
Adam Curry: Broadway. producer
Steve had an interesting

1041
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:56,100
observation about the reason why
Bill Gates is involved in this.

1042
01:02:56,250 --> 01:02:58,830
And you just heard him say, you
just heard him say about his

1043
01:02:58,830 --> 01:03:01,470
expertise, and just get that
back for one second there.

1044
01:03:01,830 --> 01:03:04,140
Unknown: So that the tech
platforms know what to do.

1045
01:03:04,529 --> 01:03:08,159
But but we are seeing that we
are we you're expecting that

1046
01:03:08,159 --> 01:03:12,419
there will be more government
involvement now in in this area?

1047
01:03:12,839 --> 01:03:17,129
Yeah. Well, my expertise is in
vaccines nowadays, but you know

1048
01:03:17,129 --> 01:03:19,799
that there is a lot of
discussion about that.

1049
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:21,720
Adam Curry: Okay, so two things
one,

1050
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,010
John C. Dvorak: does he have a
degree in Medical Degree or

1051
01:03:26,010 --> 01:03:31,080
anything, even a PhD in this
field? Oh, no way. I'm sorry.

1052
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,690
He's a college dropout yesterday
quit when he's a freshman ever.

1053
01:03:33,690 --> 01:03:33,810
My

1054
01:03:33,810 --> 01:03:38,820
Adam Curry: doctor bill? First
of all, Dr. Bill, I don't think

1055
01:03:38,820 --> 01:03:43,200
people are saying all vaccines
are are bad, just yours. Okay.

1056
01:03:44,070 --> 01:03:45,570
So let's just set that straight.

1057
01:03:46,410 --> 01:03:48,390
John C. Dvorak: Maybe that's why
you you just laughed yourself to

1058
01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:51,690
maybe that was what he was
laughing. It could be. He was

1059
01:03:51,690 --> 01:03:54,870
just, he thought it was an
ironic thing to say. So let's

1060
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:55,290
take his

1061
01:03:55,290 --> 01:03:59,100
Adam Curry: expertise for a
moment. And you'll have to help

1062
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,140
me with the history of this. I'm
just going to summarize from

1063
01:04:01,140 --> 01:04:04,320
producer Steve. And you know, we
don't have to get into the total

1064
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:09,360
details. But I think more or
less, he started Microsoft. With

1065
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,950
the IBM PC DOS, he reverse
engineered that somehow to not

1066
01:04:13,950 --> 01:04:18,960
be infringing on a patent. And
then he gave MS DOS away to all

1067
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,520
the computer manufacturers who
put that onto the, onto their

1068
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,070
computers, their personal
computers. Then he did it again

1069
01:04:26,070 --> 01:04:30,000
to IBM with Windows, which he
gave away to destroy what

1070
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,490
probably OS two or whatever else
they were working on at the

1071
01:04:32,490 --> 01:04:37,590
time. Then he puts Lotus 123
WordPerfect Harvard graphics out

1072
01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:40,290
of business when he gave away
Microsoft Office.

1073
01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:43,560
John C. Dvorak: He never given
he's not giving away anything.

1074
01:04:44,910 --> 01:04:49,590
Adam Curry: Well, the starters
correct. But the what happened

1075
01:04:49,830 --> 01:04:54,000
is he did move and I think this
is where his expertise is. He

1076
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:59,130
moved to a subscription model
for Windows for everything. He's

1077
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,850
he's he's the guy I tasked with
setting up the subscription for

1078
01:05:02,850 --> 01:05:03,540
the vaccine

1079
01:05:04,170 --> 01:05:05,760
John C. Dvorak: is never set up
as such, there is no

1080
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,470
subscription model for Windows.

1081
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:13,770
Adam Curry: Oh I for I'm pretty
sure I pay a subscription for

1082
01:05:13,770 --> 01:05:14,340
something

1083
01:05:14,460 --> 01:05:17,190
John C. Dvorak: you pay
subscription for, for Microsoft

1084
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:24,930
Office. Okay. I know you're
going here,

1085
01:05:25,590 --> 01:05:27,390
Adam Curry: Steve. And I thought
it was interesting because the

1086
01:05:27,390 --> 01:05:29,970
tech industry in general has
been moving towards a

1087
01:05:29,970 --> 01:05:32,610
subscription. And I'm just
thinking, with all this

1088
01:05:32,610 --> 01:05:35,220
John C. Dvorak: talk, this was
developed in the 80s, when the

1089
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,390
concept of software as a service
was first floated, and nobody

1090
01:05:39,390 --> 01:05:42,270
would made it work. I mean, this
is almost like, it kind of

1091
01:05:42,270 --> 01:05:45,510
parallels the way the search
engines were developed. When

1092
01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:48,630
they came out there Riddick, it
was kept going on and on again,

1093
01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:51,510
there's no way to make money
with a search engine. And it was

1094
01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:55,470
like a useless exercise. You
can't make money with a search

1095
01:05:55,470 --> 01:05:59,730
engine. And then I think was
called go to was go to.com,

1096
01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:03,690
perhaps is bought by Google. And
I've incorporated it. And the

1097
01:06:03,690 --> 01:06:06,840
next thing, you know, they, they
showed how you can make money

1098
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,140
with a search engine. And next
thing, then next step is

1099
01:06:10,140 --> 01:06:14,280
Google's does monster company,
right? The software subscription

1100
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,910
services very similar. It took a
long time for people to find the

1101
01:06:17,910 --> 01:06:21,630
right model. I think Adobe did
it first, in terms of making it

1102
01:06:21,630 --> 01:06:26,550
work, even though you might
harken back to Autodesk, I think

1103
01:06:26,550 --> 01:06:28,380
they had some sort of a thing
going on where you could do or

1104
01:06:28,380 --> 01:06:32,430
maybe some their competitor. It
was too long. It was hard

1105
01:06:32,430 --> 01:06:37,830
fought. And Microsoft is always
been copying somebody else's

1106
01:06:37,830 --> 01:06:40,830
idea. And that starts right at
the beginning. And that's the

1107
01:06:40,830 --> 01:06:45,900
real thing. You have to look at
here. Right? Bill's all good

1108
01:06:45,930 --> 01:06:49,290
steal and embrace or whatever
there was a term for grace

1109
01:06:49,290 --> 01:06:51,210
Adam Curry: and extend. Grace,
how

1110
01:06:51,210 --> 01:06:55,230
John C. Dvorak: was it? I have
the right name for it. But they

1111
01:06:55,230 --> 01:06:59,160
changed it to Yes, embrace and
extend. And that's kind of I

1112
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,560
think, what he's doing with the
vaccine, because he's a Johnny

1113
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,730
come lately. And but he's taken
over the place because he's got

1114
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,940
leverage. He knows that's what
he knows how to do. Right?

1115
01:07:08,970 --> 01:07:11,580
That's his expertise, his
expertise is that in vaccines,

1116
01:07:11,580 --> 01:07:14,700
he doesn't know jack shit about
vaccines, let's face it.

1117
01:07:16,860 --> 01:07:18,690
Adam Curry: Well, I mean, you
know, more or less than we do

1118
01:07:18,690 --> 01:07:19,290
probably,

1119
01:07:19,590 --> 01:07:21,720
John C. Dvorak: oh, by the way,
we don't know anything. Here's

1120
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,960
what we know where to go get
information, we have him sure to

1121
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,720
see, by the way, but his
information is all designed out

1122
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,530
now that the money making we
don't make any money, on our

1123
01:07:31,530 --> 01:07:32,970
knowledge of vaccines,

1124
01:07:33,060 --> 01:07:36,060
Adam Curry: what what he is
saying is that our knowledge of

1125
01:07:36,060 --> 01:07:42,030
vaccines is wrong because it
came from the internet. That's

1126
01:07:42,030 --> 01:07:43,650
what he's saying. Sure.

1127
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,220
John C. Dvorak: What he's saying
is he's thinking that he does

1128
01:07:47,220 --> 01:07:51,150
have a solution, or what I'll
bet he does, in his hand.

1129
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,170
Unknown: If you were in task
build to rebuild the internet

1130
01:07:55,170 --> 01:07:58,050
ground up, what's the one thing
you change about it?

1131
01:08:00,540 --> 01:08:06,510
Well, the basic assumption that
you're anonymous, you know,

1132
01:08:06,510 --> 01:08:11,580
causes some difficulties. And
some of the the inability to

1133
01:08:11,580 --> 01:08:17,040
control the security causes some
difficulties. And, you know, the

1134
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,570
internet has been unbelievable.
But the the identity part and

1135
01:08:21,570 --> 01:08:25,620
the security part, we're kind of
having to layer that on. And

1136
01:08:25,620 --> 01:08:30,270
it's it's not as natural as it
should be. It's

1137
01:08:32,250 --> 01:08:34,860
Adam Curry: it's not as what
natural as it should be

1138
01:08:34,979 --> 01:08:38,099
John C. Dvorak: natural. Yeah.
And I'm very natural in that

1139
01:08:38,099 --> 01:08:40,559
regard. I mean, I could go out
to the middle of the street and

1140
01:08:40,559 --> 01:08:43,649
start yelling stuff, jump in my
car and take off. That's pretty

1141
01:08:43,649 --> 01:08:49,859
anonymous. I can make a phone
call, you know, with a blocked

1142
01:08:49,889 --> 01:08:53,489
number by you not in the early
days before they had caller ID.

1143
01:08:54,209 --> 01:08:57,689
You can make a phone call
anonymous phone call. And it's

1144
01:08:57,689 --> 01:09:00,749
the same. What's that? How's
that different? How's it

1145
01:09:00,749 --> 01:09:03,959
different from the old landline
days, when you could just make

1146
01:09:03,959 --> 01:09:07,589
an anonymous phone call and tell
somebody to fuck off? How's it

1147
01:09:07,589 --> 01:09:07,979
different?

1148
01:09:08,010 --> 01:09:10,830
Adam Curry: Well, that yeah,
that that ended with star 69. I

1149
01:09:10,830 --> 01:09:14,370
think that's what that's when
that joke stopped.

1150
01:09:14,700 --> 01:09:16,950
John C. Dvorak: But yeah, it
ended because people would were

1151
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:20,820
sick of it. Yeah. And it builds
obviously sick of the anonymous

1152
01:09:20,820 --> 01:09:21,720
stuff. And he was

1153
01:09:23,310 --> 01:09:27,420
Adam Curry: on the phone used to
ring and you'd say I would say

1154
01:09:27,660 --> 01:09:30,720
hi, it's Adam speaking. And the
person the other end would go

1155
01:09:30,750 --> 01:09:35,340
hey, it's John, John C. Dvorak.
Now, not all that.

1156
01:09:38,580 --> 01:09:40,380
Unknown: I see you come in like
us, John.

1157
01:09:44,069 --> 01:09:46,919
John C. Dvorak: I want to go
back to Bill's worrying about

1158
01:09:46,919 --> 01:09:52,799
his being seen as yes as a as a
creep. Yeah. As a creep. You

1159
01:09:52,799 --> 01:09:58,979
have to Bill had this
interesting kind of arc. Even

1160
01:09:58,979 --> 01:10:02,159
when Bill is really Making a lot
of money at Microsoft. And even

1161
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:05,339
when he first became a
billionaire, he was pretty

1162
01:10:05,339 --> 01:10:09,719
accessible. He go to Users group
meetings, he explained what

1163
01:10:09,719 --> 01:10:12,719
Microsoft was up to. He was out
there and out and about

1164
01:10:12,750 --> 01:10:15,750
Adam Curry: like me in the early
days of podcasting. Then I

1165
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:17,310
withdrew, to know

1166
01:10:17,550 --> 01:10:20,160
John C. Dvorak: withdrew, they
stopped inviting you. Big

1167
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:20,910
difference.

1168
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,650
Adam Curry: Because I want to
sponsor their conference. That's

1169
01:10:25,650 --> 01:10:26,100
why

1170
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,850
John C. Dvorak: so you wouldn't
pay? They said, Well, you were

1171
01:10:29,850 --> 01:10:32,970
gonna invite you can come free.
You can come with you if you

1172
01:10:32,970 --> 01:10:33,630
pay. Here's the

1173
01:10:33,630 --> 01:10:36,870
Adam Curry: sponsorship package,
like 10 grand like, if I come

1174
01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:39,090
off speakers, I want you and
it's for free. And it's the

1175
01:10:39,090 --> 01:10:39,690
keynote.

1176
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,850
John C. Dvorak: Well, we're
gonna really should be paying

1177
01:10:41,850 --> 01:10:43,260
you Hello.

1178
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:45,390
Adam Curry: Oh, no, that was
that's against the whole No.

1179
01:10:46,710 --> 01:10:47,460
Please.

1180
01:10:47,850 --> 01:10:51,390
John C. Dvorak: All right. So
then Bill got pied.

1181
01:10:51,870 --> 01:10:55,230
Adam Curry: Gah. Yes. And that
changed his attitude.

1182
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:59,250
John C. Dvorak: It changed him
it changed him. Once he got pied

1183
01:10:59,250 --> 01:11:03,990
he started to be all of a sudden
he's and by the way you always

1184
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:07,470
fly coach although he never did
because he always upgraded me by

1185
01:11:07,740 --> 01:11:10,830
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was that
was that was the that was the

1186
01:11:10,980 --> 01:11:13,770
culture around him that
mystique. Oh, he always fights

1187
01:11:13,770 --> 01:11:14,400
cold call.

1188
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,830
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, he'd fight
coach and you never take a limo.

1189
01:11:16,830 --> 01:11:20,310
He take cabs and they'll change
to start taking limos. He got

1190
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:21,480
his own private plane, his

1191
01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:22,710
Adam Curry: own french toast.

1192
01:11:24,450 --> 01:11:28,680
John C. Dvorak: And so got
bodyguards. Even one time he was

1193
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:33,090
at a Comdex, or either that or
CES was late in the game after

1194
01:11:33,090 --> 01:11:36,570
he'd already been pied. And I
remember he's going to be at

1195
01:11:36,570 --> 01:11:40,440
something and I saw him for a
second, and then he disappeared.

1196
01:11:41,070 --> 01:11:45,420
Adam Curry: I said, getting pied
though, is a very violent act.

1197
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,470
Everything I know about people
have gotten pied is a very

1198
01:11:49,470 --> 01:11:53,880
frightening experience. It's not
just haha, funny when it happens

1199
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,180
to you. So for it to have
affected him. I totally believe

1200
01:11:57,180 --> 01:11:57,480
that.

1201
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,530
John C. Dvorak: I think so.
Yeah, I believe it's also true

1202
01:12:01,530 --> 01:12:05,280
as a violent act. Yeah. And it's
I mean, that if you you know,

1203
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,180
your wife does it at the wedding
pushes your head down into the

1204
01:12:09,180 --> 01:12:09,540
cake.

1205
01:12:09,930 --> 01:12:12,720
Adam Curry: Do you know we had
agreements over that? That's not

1206
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,640
true. It's a total lie. You

1207
01:12:15,690 --> 01:12:22,170
John C. Dvorak: did not do that
doctored evidence. Yes. My

1208
01:12:22,170 --> 01:12:29,820
witness. I saw it. You saw it.
You saw nothing. And so so he

1209
01:12:29,820 --> 01:12:33,450
changed and he got and he'd been
in Danny B slowly became

1210
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:37,530
isolated. And then he built that
big. This didn't help, by the

1211
01:12:37,530 --> 01:12:40,260
way is another one of those
horror was calling me out for

1212
01:12:40,260 --> 01:12:42,780
having all kinds of weird
stories on this show.

1213
01:12:43,769 --> 01:12:48,809
Adam Curry: Now these, by the
way, congratulations to Andrew

1214
01:12:48,809 --> 01:12:51,839
Horowitz 700 episodes of the
disciplined investor, the

1215
01:12:51,839 --> 01:12:57,899
longest running financial advice
podcast in the entire universe.

1216
01:12:58,139 --> 01:12:59,549
Yeah, not too shabby.

1217
01:12:59,940 --> 01:13:01,590
John C. Dvorak: And it's an
interview show too. And he gets

1218
01:13:01,590 --> 01:13:03,750
a lot of good guests. It's very
good show people should listen

1219
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:08,190
to him. So the

1220
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,230
Adam Curry: big thing about your
weird stories, he's in a way

1221
01:13:10,260 --> 01:13:13,590
this is gold baby. This is Jim.
Jim. So I'm an

1222
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:16,860
John C. Dvorak: architect. I
don't know why I'm here at this.

1223
01:13:16,860 --> 01:13:20,070
I don't remember the origin of
this story origin. But I'm at

1224
01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:23,400
this architect's office, about
some talking about something and

1225
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,990
he's the guy designing the Bill
Gates mansion. One day we're

1226
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:29,820
building on Lake Washington.

1227
01:13:29,850 --> 01:13:32,880
Adam Curry: Oh, which is what?
60,000 feet square feet.

1228
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:37,770
John C. Dvorak: So he's got an
underground parking lot. They

1229
01:13:37,770 --> 01:13:40,530
never give anybody a tour. Even
though I've seen pictures. They

1230
01:13:40,530 --> 01:13:43,140
got pictures all over the place.
And I knew about what he was

1231
01:13:43,140 --> 01:13:45,210
trying to do and didn't have the
stuff he wanted to do. He never

1232
01:13:45,210 --> 01:13:50,070
did. But I did get this story
which was according to this guy.

1233
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,700
He says they had to keep
replacing the front glass

1234
01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:57,000
because the thing was just off
the lake enough were boaters who

1235
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,050
as he was being built, just
casual boaters would would be

1236
01:14:01,050 --> 01:14:04,950
rowing past the place or even
they stop and didn't take

1237
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:11,790
potshots at the place in South
the windows. So the whole front

1238
01:14:11,790 --> 01:14:16,710
of the house is bulletproof
glass. There you go. That can't

1239
01:14:16,710 --> 01:14:22,320
be relaxing thought. So Bill's a
little bit paranoid. And then

1240
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,110
the fact that he's been
isolated, he's isolated himself.

1241
01:14:25,230 --> 01:14:30,720
He just now realizes that people
are starting to hate him to the

1242
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,870
point where somebody might just
take a pot shot at him.

1243
01:14:34,170 --> 01:14:37,230
Adam Curry: When I lived in
Amsterdam. We moved back in the

1244
01:14:37,230 --> 01:14:41,790
19 end of 1999 and bought a
house and the whole bottom floor

1245
01:14:41,790 --> 01:14:45,450
was bulletproof glass. And
you're right. It was very odd.

1246
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,900
It's uncomfortable. It's a weird
feeling. It couldn't open

1247
01:14:48,930 --> 01:14:53,550
couldn't open the window in the
front. It is a weird feeling.

1248
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,610
John C. Dvorak: So Bill is like
Bill's got any issue here. He's

1249
01:14:56,610 --> 01:14:59,160
going to he should just you know
he shouldn't just shut up.

1250
01:14:59,430 --> 01:15:01,200
Adam Curry: Well, the thing He
says that that's all people

1251
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,950
really want to talk to him
about. And that seems to be the

1252
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:08,520
media's job. And maybe that's
his current gig is to

1253
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:13,290
continuously say, you know, this
is always crazy. Because he's an

1254
01:15:13,290 --> 01:15:15,780
authority guy. Someone's got to
say it. It doesn't work when

1255
01:15:15,780 --> 01:15:20,580
politicians say it. But doesn't
it all kind of come together? If

1256
01:15:20,580 --> 01:15:23,820
you look at it from a grander
scale, and again, I'm influenced

1257
01:15:23,820 --> 01:15:30,210
by this documentary. We've had
media systems in place to Doctor

1258
01:15:30,210 --> 01:15:34,170
the evidence for decades,
really, radio great examples,

1259
01:15:34,170 --> 01:15:37,710
but television, the whole
television age, and now we're in

1260
01:15:37,710 --> 01:15:42,210
the internet age. And somehow,
we're lucky, I think, just under

1261
01:15:42,210 --> 01:15:47,460
the wire, just as the elites are
saying, well, holy crap, we just

1262
01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:50,550
got to tamp down on everything.
shut it all down. I mean,

1263
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:53,670
there's no, there's no argument
for I don't think from anybody

1264
01:15:53,670 --> 01:15:58,950
that social media is being
sanitized. And it's being

1265
01:15:58,950 --> 01:16:01,830
squeezed down to ultimately
Twitter's just going to be

1266
01:16:01,980 --> 01:16:06,480
checkmarks yelling at each other
all day. And I think with a

1267
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:10,920
little bit of luck, a sufficient
amount of people are squeezing

1268
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,970
out from that. Just where
there's no we actually have a

1269
01:16:14,970 --> 01:16:18,810
mastodon, we have different
types of chat things. We're not

1270
01:16:18,810 --> 01:16:21,900
net, we have different phones,
we can use no agenda phone.com

1271
01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:25,620
Not necessarily beholden to the
to the app stores, we have

1272
01:16:25,620 --> 01:16:29,820
Bitcoin and all these things. I
think it's only going to get

1273
01:16:29,820 --> 01:16:34,410
worse and N and Bill Gates is
going to be the canary in the

1274
01:16:34,410 --> 01:16:37,710
coal mine. As long as he's
keeling over looking weak, then

1275
01:16:37,710 --> 01:16:39,300
with that more has to be done.

1276
01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:44,220
Unknown: I think that is not
squeezed,

1277
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:45,090
Adam Curry: don't you think?

1278
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:47,820
John C. Dvorak: I'm sorry. But
what was I missing is that the

1279
01:16:47,849 --> 01:16:49,559
Adam Curry: governments around
the world that just wants to

1280
01:16:49,559 --> 01:16:53,249
squeeze out dissenting voices,
they are so used to having their

1281
01:16:53,429 --> 01:16:56,819
their way or the highway? And
now well, it's not it's a this

1282
01:16:56,819 --> 01:17:00,179
is the whole freedom of reach.
And I know you don't believe

1283
01:17:00,179 --> 01:17:03,599
it's going to catch on but it is
it is the entire idea behind

1284
01:17:03,599 --> 01:17:05,909
what they're doing. Well, you
can have freedom of speech over

1285
01:17:05,909 --> 01:17:10,109
there when no one cares. It's
just like MTV, when I said, Do

1286
01:17:10,109 --> 01:17:13,469
you mind if I register mtv.com
Because I've got this this web

1287
01:17:13,469 --> 01:17:17,909
server thing and the gopher
server, and I went that's fine.

1288
01:17:17,909 --> 01:17:20,519
We have the AOL keyword. We
don't need your silly little

1289
01:17:20,519 --> 01:17:23,279
internet. It's the same
attitude.

1290
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,250
John C. Dvorak: There is that
dead attitude does exist and

1291
01:17:29,250 --> 01:17:32,700
they are mass media and
everything else is a joke.

1292
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,300
Adam Curry: Exactly everything
else is remember it used to just

1293
01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:39,150
be they can't pull that anymore
used to be just unprofessional.

1294
01:17:39,870 --> 01:17:43,260
Now they have someone in his
basement now that everyone's

1295
01:17:43,260 --> 01:17:46,800
broadcasting from their basement
to the basement. So easy is it

1296
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:52,770
dipshits is a little harder than
you thought. Can't go to masking

1297
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:57,570
just for some for some Fauci
updates on masking. Fauci Yes,

1298
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,950
because he's made it very
confusing. One mask to mask

1299
01:18:01,950 --> 01:18:06,300
three masks. Well, here we go
again. Let's bring in the Dream

1300
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:10,650
Team Savannah Guthrie from the
NBC Today Show with Mr. Fauci.

1301
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:11,970
Unknown: Let's talk about this
mask.

1302
01:18:13,890 --> 01:18:16,170
Adam Curry: She's laughing
already. Let's cycle this mask.

1303
01:18:16,770 --> 01:18:19,770
Unknown: Let's talk about this
mask thing because now the CDC

1304
01:18:19,770 --> 01:18:21,690
says I think what was

1305
01:18:21,690 --> 01:18:22,290
John C. Dvorak: funny,

1306
01:18:22,710 --> 01:18:28,650
Adam Curry: because she likely
finds it annoying that she has

1307
01:18:28,650 --> 01:18:33,000
to do this segment again about
the masks thing. Why can't these

1308
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:37,980
eight holes. Republicans just
shut up and wear masks? Yes,

1309
01:18:38,010 --> 01:18:41,790
exactly. Mandy, she may be a
little irk that Fauci is

1310
01:18:41,790 --> 01:18:45,870
bumbling. He has made it
confusing. No mas yes mask.

1311
01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:50,880
Okay, mask wrong masks. 395
masks to match three masks off

1312
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:51,480
mask

1313
01:18:51,540 --> 01:18:52,290
John C. Dvorak: paper mask,

1314
01:18:52,410 --> 01:18:56,340
Unknown: this mask, because now
the CDC says I think I've got

1315
01:18:56,340 --> 01:19:00,600
this right. One mask is better
than zero masks. Two masks is

1316
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,230
better than one mask but you
don't have to have double masks.

1317
01:19:04,290 --> 01:19:05,610
Is that right? I mean,

1318
01:19:06,330 --> 01:19:09,240
it is in fact you know, Savannah
the you and I had this

1319
01:19:09,390 --> 01:19:12,810
Adam Curry: they all find it
very funny. They started so

1320
01:19:12,810 --> 01:19:16,590
hilarious that people are
confused that there's there's

1321
01:19:16,650 --> 01:19:20,610
misinformation at best coming
out of official channel

1322
01:19:20,610 --> 01:19:25,140
channels. It's contradictory and
these aztalan Laughing

1323
01:19:25,470 --> 01:19:27,810
John C. Dvorak: they're laughing
at the public that's

1324
01:19:27,810 --> 01:19:29,430
Unknown: the fucking idiot
public.

1325
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,760
John C. Dvorak: This kind of
dismiss this gratuitous laughing

1326
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:40,080
they always doing it's just an
it's really an insult to the

1327
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:44,940
listener. I don't understand
how, where are the suits? The

1328
01:19:44,940 --> 01:19:48,270
suits at the network that don't
call her out on to say you can't

1329
01:19:48,270 --> 01:19:52,560
do that. Are you laughing? Why
are you laughing like an idiot?

1330
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,630
Adam Curry: They are at the
French Laundry

1331
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,350
Unknown: that's where they are
why Talk about this mask thing,

1332
01:20:01,350 --> 01:20:05,610
because now the CDC says, I
think I've got this right. One

1333
01:20:05,610 --> 01:20:09,390
mask is better than zero masks,
two masks is better than one

1334
01:20:09,390 --> 01:20:13,320
mask, but you don't have to have
double masks. Is that right? I

1335
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:13,650
mean,

1336
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,120
it is, in fact, you know, you
and I had this conversation on

1337
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,760
your show. I mean, it must have
been a month or so ago, because

1338
01:20:20,850 --> 01:20:23,910
someone had said, I've seen
people wear two masks, why the

1339
01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:27,090
recommendation is not that you
have to wear it with the CDC is

1340
01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:34,470
saying that, at minimum, wear a
mask, okay? Make sure you wear a

1341
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:38,340
mask. So you wear a mask, then
you want it to fit better. So

1342
01:20:38,340 --> 01:20:41,730
one of the ways you could do it,
if you would like to, is put a

1343
01:20:41,730 --> 01:20:47,730
cloth mask over what's actually
here, and here. And here, when

1344
01:20:47,730 --> 01:20:51,900
you could get leakage in is much
better contained. That's all

1345
01:20:51,900 --> 01:20:55,260
they're saying. One mask at
least. But if you want to really

1346
01:20:55,260 --> 01:20:57,750
be sure get a tie to fit with a
second,

1347
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,330
wait a minute, are you a double
masker, Dr. Fauci.

1348
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,960
In fact, I have used it
occasionally. Mostly Samantha

1349
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,200
with the CDC is saying the fit
is better.

1350
01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:16,020
Adam Curry: The fit is better.
And notice how it's only about

1351
01:21:16,020 --> 01:21:19,860
the fit. Breathing in. You're
still breathing all that crap

1352
01:21:19,860 --> 01:21:23,130
out, which is supposed to be
danger. You're protecting other

1353
01:21:23,130 --> 01:21:27,030
people. You're protecting
grandma. Oh, okay. This is

1354
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:30,870
another thing that irks me. Can
we stop with the ageist

1355
01:21:31,170 --> 01:21:35,910
analogies? And I'll give you one
example that, that I'm just sick

1356
01:21:35,910 --> 01:21:39,540
of. It doesn't irked me that
much anymore. But yeah, I'm

1357
01:21:39,540 --> 01:21:43,860
working on podcasting. 2.0. And
we're at the foundation level of

1358
01:21:43,860 --> 01:21:47,610
getting things working. And
there's there's not a company,

1359
01:21:47,610 --> 01:21:52,230
there's not a release schedule.
There's no PR team. And, and

1360
01:21:52,230 --> 01:21:56,940
then someone will come in and
test something and go. Well, I

1361
01:21:56,940 --> 01:22:03,540
don't even know. I can't explain
this to my mom. You know, this

1362
01:22:03,540 --> 01:22:08,490
is I've heard this all my
career. My mom won't be able to

1363
01:22:08,490 --> 01:22:12,750
use it. What kind of a dumb Mom
Do you have? What's wrong with

1364
01:22:12,750 --> 01:22:17,160
your mom? And the same with
COVID? Grandma, I'm old enough

1365
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,880
to be your grandpa. But listen
to how you just you just you're

1366
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,710
just disdained man, folks who

1367
01:22:22,710 --> 01:22:26,130
Unknown: are elderly are moms
and dads, my kids grandparents,

1368
01:22:26,130 --> 01:22:28,770
a lot of them are getting their
vaccines now. And once they're

1369
01:22:28,770 --> 01:22:31,620
fully vaccinated, can they see
their kids? Can they see their

1370
01:22:31,620 --> 01:22:33,600
grandkids? Can they go to a
restaurant? Can they go to

1371
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,690
Costco? I mean, once they're
fully vaccinated, can they go

1372
01:22:36,690 --> 01:22:38,190
back to their normal lives?

1373
01:22:38,700 --> 01:22:43,200
In essence, ultimately, yes.
Then you would like to see

1374
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,950
semana is if you have two
parties vaccinated. And that's

1375
01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:51,450
the question more often, if I'm
vaccinated, and my daughter who

1376
01:22:51,450 --> 01:22:55,470
lives in Boston comes home and
she's vaccinated, can we get

1377
01:22:55,470 --> 01:22:59,670
much more of this pulling back
on restrictions and saying, We

1378
01:22:59,670 --> 01:23:02,880
can sit down together without a
mask? We can give each other a

1379
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,060
hug? And the answer ultimately
is going to be yes with that.

1380
01:23:06,060 --> 01:23:06,240
But

1381
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,030
if we're vaccinated but grandkid
isn't,

1382
01:23:09,540 --> 01:23:12,900
yeah, then you got to be careful
because grandma could still get

1383
01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:17,730
virus in her nasal pharynx. Even
though the vaccine is preventing

1384
01:23:17,730 --> 01:23:21,900
her from getting physically ill.
She's due to virus.

1385
01:23:23,370 --> 01:23:26,010
Adam Curry: I want everyone to
hear that one more time. This is

1386
01:23:26,010 --> 01:23:31,800
not a vaccine. This is some kind
of potion that makes the the

1387
01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:36,840
effects of the COVID disease
which you will catch less

1388
01:23:38,340 --> 01:23:40,950
annoying. Let's hear it again.

1389
01:23:40,980 --> 01:23:42,600
Unknown: And you got to be
careful because the

1390
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,740
Adam Curry: question again is
grandma's vaccinated grandma has

1391
01:23:46,740 --> 01:23:56,160
the vaccine coursing through her
veins. Grandpa cool ASMR SMR

1392
01:23:56,580 --> 01:24:02,130
grandchild has no grandchild has
no vaccine. Is grandma still

1393
01:24:02,130 --> 01:24:04,650
protected from this vaccine

1394
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,470
Unknown: can give each other a
hug? And the answer ultimately

1395
01:24:07,470 --> 01:24:08,940
is going to be yes with that.
But

1396
01:24:08,940 --> 01:24:12,810
if we're vaccinated but grandkid
isn't, yeah, then

1397
01:24:12,810 --> 01:24:16,440
you got to be careful because
grandma could still get virus in

1398
01:24:16,440 --> 01:24:20,580
her nasal pharynx. Even though
the vaccine is preventing her

1399
01:24:20,580 --> 01:24:24,810
from getting physically ill she
still could have virus in her

1400
01:24:24,810 --> 01:24:28,590
nasal pharynx. And that's the
reason why we say until we have

1401
01:24:28,590 --> 01:24:31,560
the overwhelming majority of
people are vaccinated and the

1402
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,880
level of virus is very low. When
you're vaccinated you still it

1403
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,240
would be prudent to wear a mask
for the that I just mentioned.

1404
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:39,600
Okay, and

1405
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,250
just really quickly because
they're gonna kill me with the

1406
01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:44,760
time but my kids grandma's
listening to this, okay. Is the

1407
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:48,030
risk that's with that leftover
virus that grandma might be

1408
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,390
emitting the risk to the person
who's not vaccinated or is the

1409
01:24:51,390 --> 01:24:53,100
risk to grandma, to the

1410
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:54,990
person who's not vaccinated.
Okay.

1411
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:57,540
John C. Dvorak: The kids who
can't catch it Yeah,

1412
01:24:57,599 --> 01:25:01,259
Adam Curry: exactly. I have some
personal issues

1413
01:25:01,260 --> 01:25:03,450
John C. Dvorak: talking about
Miss mixed messaging.

1414
01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:07,770
Adam Curry: I have some personal
experience. Over the weekend we

1415
01:25:07,770 --> 01:25:13,800
got a call from Tina sister. She
works in a clinic. And so she

1416
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:19,980
has had both her Maderna shots.
And she called she was home

1417
01:25:19,980 --> 01:25:23,310
alone. No, she was home
initially. She wasn't feeling

1418
01:25:23,310 --> 01:25:28,080
well, her other sister who lives
nearby, and these are Indiana

1419
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,590
girls. Now this is tough chicks.
So now let's go to get tested.

1420
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:34,920
She got tested. So she's had
both vaccines. The last shot was

1421
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:39,570
four weeks ago. She's COVID
Positive. And she she was

1422
01:25:39,570 --> 01:25:43,020
running 104 Fever, because you
know, the the vaccine clearly

1423
01:25:43,020 --> 01:25:46,560
who shot the dog for weeks, so
don't get me any of this. That

1424
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,860
takes time to work for weeks.
It's supposed to be seven to 14

1425
01:25:49,860 --> 01:25:55,230
days. But that's not the part
that is so sad. As she was home

1426
01:25:55,230 --> 01:25:58,110
alone, and then you know, she
just she felt her heart

1427
01:25:58,110 --> 01:26:01,830
pounding. And she went into full
blown panic attack because of

1428
01:26:01,830 --> 01:26:05,400
the fucking fear mongering
that's out there. Oh, yeah. And

1429
01:26:05,430 --> 01:26:09,780
it was and she mass hysteria.
And she's the kind of person who

1430
01:26:09,810 --> 01:26:12,360
you know, your shot on the
ground, she'll pick up your guts

1431
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:16,170
shove it in and drive you you
know, to the hospital, she was

1432
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:21,120
in a full blown panic attack.
Because of just all this fear

1433
01:26:21,180 --> 01:26:26,520
that's being bestowed upon
people. What did work and props

1434
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:33,570
to Tina, she's like, Baby 98.8%
survivability rate. If you

1435
01:26:33,570 --> 01:26:36,930
didn't have all the fear pumped
into you, you just think crap,

1436
01:26:36,930 --> 01:26:40,890
I've got a horrible flu. But you
wouldn't think it after you got

1437
01:26:40,890 --> 01:26:46,830
the vaccine, both shots and four
weeks for it to do its work. So

1438
01:26:46,830 --> 01:26:50,250
that's a personal I can out of
personal experience. Say the

1439
01:26:50,250 --> 01:26:58,470
vaccine doesn't work. It's
bogus. It's bunk. I hope what

1440
01:26:58,980 --> 01:27:02,100
John C. Dvorak: did you get to
get us taken off the air? You're

1441
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:03,300
gonna get fired?

1442
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:05,310
Adam Curry: Yeah. When they
figured out how to moderate

1443
01:27:05,310 --> 01:27:06,990
podcasts. Great.

1444
01:27:08,190 --> 01:27:09,960
John C. Dvorak: You can count on
market they're working on

1445
01:27:10,019 --> 01:27:12,239
Adam Curry: now. This is not
fun. It's not going to happen.

1446
01:27:14,069 --> 01:27:16,919
You're bitching a lot? Oh, of
course. Well, that's that's the

1447
01:27:16,919 --> 01:27:21,239
gatekeepers who are doing that.
The gatekeepers in the UK the

1448
01:27:21,239 --> 01:27:24,959
success of the vaccine program
if implant implanted properly.

1449
01:27:25,349 --> 01:27:32,819
could see the UK back to normal
by 2022. Yeah. And I got a great

1450
01:27:32,819 --> 01:27:36,359
note from one of our Norwegian
producers, how that a bunch of

1451
01:27:36,359 --> 01:27:43,319
jerks. How was in Norway and how
looked into the adverse effects

1452
01:27:43,319 --> 01:27:48,899
that killed 23 people in a
nursing home? Oh, excellent.

1453
01:27:48,899 --> 01:27:52,139
Yes. And I put her his whole
report from getting donation

1454
01:27:52,139 --> 01:27:58,349
reindeer balls, as he says in
the show notes, here's what he

1455
01:27:58,349 --> 01:28:00,929
said. I thought I'd just give
you some info from inside

1456
01:28:00,929 --> 01:28:03,509
Norway. I'm in Norwegian living
in Norway, and about the depths

1457
01:28:03,509 --> 01:28:05,969
you mentioned in the newsletter.
And previously on the show,

1458
01:28:06,239 --> 01:28:08,909
since I mostly ignore M five M
and only listen to you guys. I

1459
01:28:08,909 --> 01:28:11,279
hadn't heard about this until
you brought it up. So I Googled

1460
01:28:11,279 --> 01:28:14,219
a bit and found a lot of new
stories. He speaks Norwegian, so

1461
01:28:14,219 --> 01:28:17,669
that's helpful. The topic was
from our biggest newspaper, the

1462
01:28:17,699 --> 01:28:23,069
very verdens gang, which he says
loosely translated is how the

1463
01:28:23,069 --> 01:28:29,429
world turns, which I think is a
so proper hearing America. Now,

1464
01:28:29,459 --> 01:28:36,149
he says this is dismissible for
the very reason that and so

1465
01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:43,079
there were 3023 people reported
23 people died. It is now in

1466
01:28:43,079 --> 01:28:47,849
fact up to 56. And they're still
giving the Yeah, it's not really

1467
01:28:47,849 --> 01:28:51,089
a big deal. Because these are
the side effects that are

1468
01:28:51,089 --> 01:28:56,339
expected and they they they
sometimes kill people. So here's

1469
01:28:56,339 --> 01:29:01,439
the kicker. The reason why it's
no big deal is because on any

1470
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:07,709
regular day 45 People die in our
nursing homes. We have a lot of

1471
01:29:07,709 --> 01:29:10,319
sick people with underlying
conditions in Norway,

1472
01:29:10,319 --> 01:29:14,819
Norwegians, nursing homes. Our
health system puts people in

1473
01:29:14,819 --> 01:29:17,159
nursing homes that most
countries would put in a

1474
01:29:17,159 --> 01:29:25,289
hospital. Another clue about
socialized medicine. So it's

1475
01:29:25,319 --> 01:29:29,579
totally normal for 45 people a
day on a good day no COVID To

1476
01:29:29,579 --> 01:29:32,999
die in the nursing homes in
Norway.

1477
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:36,990
John C. Dvorak: That's where
they weren't worked up about it.

1478
01:29:37,410 --> 01:29:41,580
Adam Curry: Right. But did you
know that one of I mean, if

1479
01:29:41,580 --> 01:29:45,120
Denmark is the happiest place on
earth, and Sweden is the way we

1480
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,550
all want to be. I mean, does
Norway just get kicked to the

1481
01:29:47,550 --> 01:29:51,630
curb? In Norway, Norway's
they're supposed to be all in on

1482
01:29:51,630 --> 01:29:53,430
that on that stuff.

1483
01:29:53,969 --> 01:29:57,449
John C. Dvorak: Well, Norway's
actually is an outlier, which is

1484
01:29:58,049 --> 01:30:01,589
a very good thing to study
because An out by outlier. I

1485
01:30:01,589 --> 01:30:06,359
mean, they're not in the EU. Oh,
yes, this is they're not in the

1486
01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:11,429
euro zone. None of that. They
have they have been they're not

1487
01:30:11,429 --> 01:30:14,669
in the EU for good reason is
because they're sitting out of a

1488
01:30:14,669 --> 01:30:20,039
giant pile of oil that makes
them you know, as wealthy as big

1489
01:30:20,039 --> 01:30:26,039
as Kuwait. And so whatever
happens in Norway, you we don't

1490
01:30:26,039 --> 01:30:28,499
talk about it much in this
country because we don't know

1491
01:30:28,499 --> 01:30:32,009
how to what to think of it
because they're just they're a

1492
01:30:32,009 --> 01:30:34,769
little bit like Switzerland in
that regard. Yeah.

1493
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,290
Adam Curry: But clearly, it's
messed up over there, man.

1494
01:30:38,340 --> 01:30:40,410
John C. Dvorak: Well, they still
have this key. I don't know, I

1495
01:30:40,410 --> 01:30:43,350
don't know. Maybe we should get
more reports out of Norway,

1496
01:30:43,350 --> 01:30:44,550
because we are obviously.

1497
01:30:46,170 --> 01:30:48,540
Adam Curry: Well, if you if you
read his full report, and just

1498
01:30:48,570 --> 01:30:52,620
it seems like a big deal is just
what it is. So that's also good.

1499
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:57,810
Even though those no side
effects were clearly bad enough

1500
01:30:57,810 --> 01:30:58,590
to hurt people.

1501
01:30:59,429 --> 01:31:02,339
John C. Dvorak: I hope that for
example, you know, they did say

1502
01:31:02,339 --> 01:31:05,579
something out of that. I don't
know if he discussed this, which

1503
01:31:05,579 --> 01:31:09,509
is that, well, we shouldn't have
given the vaccine to people over

1504
01:31:09,509 --> 01:31:15,599
80 Which is something that was
one shot pronouncement that

1505
01:31:15,599 --> 01:31:18,329
we've talked about on the show,
but nobody here ever says that

1506
01:31:18,329 --> 01:31:21,719
yet. They give Hank Aaron the
shot and he's dead two weeks

1507
01:31:21,719 --> 01:31:26,549
later. More recently, they gave
Bill Russell probably the

1508
01:31:26,549 --> 01:31:31,649
greatest basketball player of
all time. The shot like during

1509
01:31:31,649 --> 01:31:35,249
the Superbowl, I think and we'll
see what happens there and he's

1510
01:31:35,249 --> 01:31:36,149
86

1511
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,060
Adam Curry: Yeah, see, I'm not I
don't want you to get it. You

1512
01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:43,050
know, I gotta get a shot.

1513
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:45,960
John C. Dvorak: Why would I get
the shot just checking.

1514
01:31:47,010 --> 01:31:49,920
Adam Curry: I know. You might be
sitting around and you have the

1515
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:51,870
messages to start to get to you
although

1516
01:31:51,870 --> 01:31:54,120
John C. Dvorak: I have to say a
number of people that are around

1517
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:58,230
me I've gotten a shot and they
I've talked to him about it. I

1518
01:31:58,230 --> 01:32:00,900
dissuade people from getting the
shot me too. I don't do it in

1519
01:32:00,900 --> 01:32:05,760
any fashion. It makes me sound
like a nut. But it's a mix. I'll

1520
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,710
just say this I've said it in
the newsletter I'll say it

1521
01:32:07,710 --> 01:32:12,960
again. The Mr. N A vaccine.
We've talked about it a lot it's

1522
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:17,280
an experimental treatment that's
never been issued to a large

1523
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:23,730
population. We have no idea
what's what's going to happen if

1524
01:32:23,730 --> 01:32:27,450
I was forced to take the shot by
the government had grabbed me I

1525
01:32:27,450 --> 01:32:31,320
would take the the AstraZeneca
or the Johnson and Johnson shot

1526
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:35,010
which is monkey fist or
something that they shoot you

1527
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:39,510
which is supposed to do the job
and I'm not taking an experience

1528
01:32:40,020 --> 01:32:43,770
just a genuinely experimental
product it hasn't been fully

1529
01:32:43,770 --> 01:32:48,600
tested and it hasn't been fully
tested No So what So what can

1530
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,910
you tell people this is I'm
getting the shot anyway just in

1531
01:32:50,910 --> 01:32:53,340
case Yeah. Okay.

1532
01:32:54,930 --> 01:32:57,120
Adam Curry: Poland you know,
they didn't do the animal trials

1533
01:32:57,150 --> 01:33:00,690
I still have my eye on the mink
so I'm I I'm just giving the

1534
01:33:00,690 --> 01:33:03,210
information as it comes in
Poland now saying the

1535
01:33:03,210 --> 01:33:08,250
Coronavirus find in local mink
can be transmitted to humans and

1536
01:33:08,250 --> 01:33:13,080
vice versa. They have not called
their animals yet, apparently.

1537
01:33:13,440 --> 01:33:17,400
According to this article, the
research clearly shows the virus

1538
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,950
can spread from mink to humans
and vice versa. Oh, this is the

1539
01:33:19,950 --> 01:33:25,440
country's agriculture minister
said yesterday. Now the thing is

1540
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:28,590
The ministry added the virus
found in Polish mink is

1541
01:33:28,620 --> 01:33:31,230
different from the virus
discovered on mink farms in

1542
01:33:31,230 --> 01:33:35,400
Denmark and it's also different
from the mutations reported in

1543
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,650
the UK, South Africa and Brazil.

1544
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,470
John C. Dvorak: What about the
minx founded Ned Mark does that

1545
01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:42,480
account for the Denmark
mutation?

1546
01:33:43,349 --> 01:33:45,689
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
mean, they they had to burn them

1547
01:33:45,689 --> 01:33:47,609
all because they buried them.
And then when they start to

1548
01:33:47,609 --> 01:33:50,519
decompose the mink or pop into
the surface, people were worried

1549
01:33:50,519 --> 01:33:53,669
about the drinking water getting
contaminated. So they torched

1550
01:33:53,669 --> 01:33:53,849
him.

1551
01:33:55,590 --> 01:34:00,060
John C. Dvorak: Go God, why is
this so much? Okay, here's,

1552
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:04,170
here's a question. You got a
million mink or 2 million

1553
01:34:04,170 --> 01:34:09,720
whatever was the collecting or
three usually uses for why don't

1554
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:15,330
you go in with a hazmat suit? D
for differ the animals and make

1555
01:34:15,330 --> 01:34:18,360
them into coats and then you
know, you can treat it with

1556
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:21,750
gamma radiation. If you're
worried about anything viral in

1557
01:34:21,750 --> 01:34:26,760
there, it'll kill everything you
can gamma radiation is used as a

1558
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:31,140
form of treatment for ultra
pasteurized milk. Different

1559
01:34:31,140 --> 01:34:34,440
kinds of foodstuffs, meat and
most of the world except the

1560
01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:37,620
United States we won't use it
because people don't understand

1561
01:34:37,620 --> 01:34:43,350
what it is. It's not it's not
the radiation that will kill you

1562
01:34:43,350 --> 01:34:45,600
if you went in there because it
kills all life forms but it

1563
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,680
doesn't linger. And also you
could gamma radiate the entire

1564
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,590
mink population and tournament
of fur coats when they do stuff

1565
01:34:52,590 --> 01:34:53,700
like that. I think they

1566
01:34:53,700 --> 01:34:56,340
Adam Curry: should let them
drink bleach and shove a UV

1567
01:34:56,340 --> 01:34:57,780
light up there but that would
work.

1568
01:34:59,340 --> 01:35:01,020
John C. Dvorak: Just not even
take In a comment series

1569
01:35:01,050 --> 01:35:04,020
Adam Curry: I'm taking the
common very seriously but to me

1570
01:35:04,020 --> 01:35:07,770
it seems you're worried about
the mink and the and the capital

1571
01:35:07,770 --> 01:35:09,810
worrying about the code. That's
what I'm saying the capital

1572
01:35:09,810 --> 01:35:13,110
destruction that is taking
place. I don't Can you can you

1573
01:35:13,110 --> 01:35:16,410
share a mink? And is it useful
from day one? Or did you have to

1574
01:35:16,440 --> 01:35:19,470
have a mature main core? I know
nothing about mink,

1575
01:35:19,590 --> 01:35:21,540
John C. Dvorak: I think baby
mane could be dynamite. It's

1576
01:35:21,540 --> 01:35:27,840
gotta be very soft and fluffy.
Yummy. It's not for eating.

1577
01:35:28,650 --> 01:35:31,650
Although I would say if you're
gamma radiate, the mink

1578
01:35:31,650 --> 01:35:36,420
Adam Curry: could be tasty.
Could be speaking of variants,

1579
01:35:37,050 --> 01:35:41,400
Justin Trudeau Prime Minister of
Canada Navia. It's a very short

1580
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,250
one you got to pay attention to
comes at the end, but he says

1581
01:35:44,250 --> 01:35:44,400
it.

1582
01:35:44,429 --> 01:35:46,919
Unknown: Obviously we've taken
significant measures to keep

1583
01:35:46,919 --> 01:35:50,939
Canadians safe, particularly
given the threat of these new

1584
01:35:50,939 --> 01:35:52,529
variants that are being
developed.

1585
01:35:53,190 --> 01:35:55,290
Adam Curry: The new variants
being developed young, it's a

1586
01:35:55,290 --> 01:35:56,940
big threat. They're developing
very

1587
01:35:56,940 --> 01:36:02,310
John C. Dvorak: shaky that one.
Well, it's that is a jam. That's

1588
01:36:02,310 --> 01:36:03,930
right up there with the
erections.

1589
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,930
Adam Curry: It's pretty good,
isn't it? That's right up there

1590
01:36:06,930 --> 01:36:08,160
with the erections.

1591
01:36:08,550 --> 01:36:13,050
John C. Dvorak: It is it's
pretty damn good. Yeah, it's a

1592
01:36:13,050 --> 01:36:14,820
10 pointer. Wow.

1593
01:36:15,900 --> 01:36:16,770
Adam Curry: crowd goes wild.

1594
01:36:18,420 --> 01:36:20,580
John C. Dvorak: It's not a clip
of the day but no, it's a 10

1595
01:36:20,580 --> 01:36:22,140
point clip. That's dynamite.

1596
01:36:22,170 --> 01:36:24,720
Adam Curry: Now here's some
information being developed.

1597
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:31,710
This guy's a doofus is is. I
didn't know the story. I don't

1598
01:36:31,710 --> 01:36:35,370
know if you'd even heard about
it. 37 seconds came up on ABC

1599
01:36:35,370 --> 01:36:36,660
America. This morning's morning

1600
01:36:36,660 --> 01:36:38,760
Unknown: new claims that former
President Trump was nearly

1601
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,820
forced into a medically induced
coma during his battle with the

1602
01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:44,880
Coronavirus last fall. The New
York Times reports Trump was so

1603
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:48,510
sick in October that his oxygen
levels dropped into the 80s. And

1604
01:36:48,510 --> 01:36:51,180
doctors reportedly consider
putting him on a ventilator. The

1605
01:36:51,180 --> 01:36:53,220
claims about his condition
appear to be a stark

1606
01:36:53,220 --> 01:36:56,430
contradiction to what Trump's
medical team said at the time

1607
01:36:56,430 --> 01:36:56,670
because

1608
01:36:56,670 --> 01:37:00,180
he also experienced difficulty
breathing. No, no, he has not.

1609
01:37:00,210 --> 01:37:00,780
Never did.

1610
01:37:00,900 --> 01:37:05,010
We want to put people on the
ventilator early on before they

1611
01:37:05,010 --> 01:37:08,010
decompensate. So I think that's
what the doctors were

1612
01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:12,810
considering once his oxygenation
levels were below that 88%

1613
01:37:12,810 --> 01:37:13,500
threshold.

1614
01:37:13,530 --> 01:37:14,940
Adam Curry: Do you even heard of
this story?

1615
01:37:17,010 --> 01:37:19,440
John C. Dvorak: No, I haven't.
It's a good one, though. And I

1616
01:37:19,440 --> 01:37:25,890
wonder how true it is. Trump had
Trump had already gone through

1617
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:29,400
hydroxychloroquine. He's done
all kinds of things to minimize

1618
01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:33,660
exposure. He's the thing that's
always ignored about Trump in

1619
01:37:33,660 --> 01:37:38,010
all these reports. We talked
about on the show like maybe, I

1620
01:37:38,010 --> 01:37:41,580
don't know, once every 10
months. He's a germaphobe.

1621
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:46,560
Right? He doesn't like to shake
hands. He does. He's very, you

1622
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,380
know, freaky about all kinds of
things. And he's not the kind of

1623
01:37:49,380 --> 01:37:54,300
guy that is, is going to it
sounds more like to me they

1624
01:37:54,300 --> 01:38:01,320
tried to kill him. You put put
Trump on a ventilator. And he's

1625
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:05,820
done. Yeah. Anybody we have the
evidence is 85% of people that

1626
01:38:05,820 --> 01:38:07,530
go on a ventilator never come
off.

1627
01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:13,740
Adam Curry: Maybe even worse.
Wow. It was just an odd story

1628
01:38:13,950 --> 01:38:15,930
came out of nowhere. Why now?

1629
01:38:16,650 --> 01:38:20,070
John C. Dvorak: I don't know.
Sourcing question why now

1630
01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:22,590
Adam Curry: sources familiar
with the thinking and the mass?

1631
01:38:22,770 --> 01:38:24,210
John C. Dvorak: Well, here's
another thing that makes me

1632
01:38:24,210 --> 01:38:28,080
question it. The New York Times
The Washington Post everybody

1633
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:29,550
would have even they got a

1634
01:38:30,270 --> 01:38:33,270
Adam Curry: story on that
immediately. Yeah, yeah. So

1635
01:38:33,300 --> 01:38:36,090
again, the question why now? Why
now?

1636
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:42,150
John C. Dvorak: I'll just die
just a pile on he's a liar. The

1637
01:38:42,150 --> 01:38:43,890
people around him are liars. So

1638
01:38:43,890 --> 01:38:45,840
Adam Curry: much material out
there. Why make it so

1639
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:47,640
complicated? They just have to

1640
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:51,690
John C. Dvorak: keep doing it. I
don't know. It's the de Pon hope

1641
01:38:51,690 --> 01:38:56,370
that some of the catches? I
think it just develop sympathy.

1642
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:58,530
The guy says, Well, I'm not
gonna get into a game but got

1643
01:38:58,530 --> 01:38:59,700
out of there. Yeah.

1644
01:39:00,420 --> 01:39:04,290
Adam Curry: In fact that it
strengthens his whole argument

1645
01:39:04,290 --> 01:39:09,510
that we have treatments. Yeah,
it's not dead. Dear crackpot, my

1646
01:39:09,510 --> 01:39:12,300
friends and I agreed tonight
that although we unconditionally

1647
01:39:12,300 --> 01:39:15,240
support your ethical stance on
not accepting outside

1648
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:19,110
advertising, especially as a
matter of integrity, we think

1649
01:39:19,110 --> 01:39:23,190
all no agenda listeners would be
completely okay with JCD getting

1650
01:39:23,190 --> 01:39:27,870
some of that sweet PBR cash. We
already know he likes it, and

1651
01:39:27,870 --> 01:39:30,840
the risk of big beer corrupting
your coverage would be remote.

1652
01:39:31,020 --> 01:39:33,810
So we're not sure there's really
any ethics involved at all, to

1653
01:39:33,810 --> 01:39:37,140
be honest, just getting paid to
drink lots of sweet sweet PBR.

1654
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:40,020
At least he could get a few free
cases out of it who could object

1655
01:39:40,020 --> 01:39:43,350
to that but again, we're just
poor douchebags in Las Colinas

1656
01:39:43,440 --> 01:39:46,050
waiting on government cheese
thank you for your courage.

1657
01:39:46,110 --> 01:39:48,510
John C. Dvorak: Well, you know
that's time for Yes indeed.

1658
01:39:56,220 --> 01:40:11,310
Adam Curry: For closer to the
mic, Now you go. So good. And

1659
01:40:11,310 --> 01:40:13,920
with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage to say in the

1660
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:18,720
morning to you, the man who put
the sea in Trump's coma, John C.

1661
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:19,710
Dvorak.

1662
01:40:20,190 --> 01:40:21,240
John C. Dvorak: Well, in the
you,

1663
01:40:21,480 --> 01:40:26,010
Unknown: interview, are you
happy Valentine's Day? Yeah, I

1664
01:40:26,010 --> 01:40:28,140
John C. Dvorak: mean to you, I
should mention it every time I

1665
01:40:28,140 --> 01:40:32,070
do that trick with the pouring.
I get my pop filter soaked.

1666
01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:35,010
Adam Curry: It wasn't close
enough. You didn't hit the noise

1667
01:40:35,010 --> 01:40:39,180
gate. But it's it's refreshing
over the squeaky chair, which I

1668
01:40:39,180 --> 01:40:43,020
no longer hear. And that is a
complaint I have received.

1669
01:40:43,020 --> 01:40:45,420
People are wondering if you've
switched out your

1670
01:40:45,540 --> 01:40:50,340
John C. Dvorak: no the chairs.
Anyway, this pop filters wet

1671
01:40:50,370 --> 01:40:54,660
now. Thank you everybody out
there. And especially the days

1672
01:40:54,660 --> 01:40:58,050
and nights I'm saying it this
way because I got a complaint

1673
01:40:58,530 --> 01:41:01,620
that I didn't use the old in the
morning that ships and see boots

1674
01:41:01,620 --> 01:41:04,710
on the ground and all the rest
last time because we had a screw

1675
01:41:04,710 --> 01:41:08,400
up and we did things awkwardly.
And that's when that was my

1676
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,950
partner. We didn't know we
didn't catch it on the show. No.

1677
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:16,350
But now I've decided to change
that opening to what in the

1678
01:41:16,350 --> 01:41:18,720
morning to you, Adam current in
the morning that Dames and

1679
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:20,700
nights out there and all the
supporters of the show.

1680
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:23,490
Adam Curry: And in the morning
to the trolls in the troll room.

1681
01:41:23,490 --> 01:41:27,060
It's a Sunday. So clap, clap
hands up. Show me what you got

1682
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:31,680
trolls troll count is taking
place 2166 We'll take it. Thank

1683
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:36,960
you very much. Very nice. 2166
It's not a bad number. Bitcoin

1684
01:41:36,990 --> 01:41:42,300
almost 50,000 Today, things are
popping up. No agenda stream.com

1685
01:41:42,300 --> 01:41:45,540
is where you can find all the
trolls. We have a live stream

1686
01:41:45,540 --> 01:41:48,420
live for the show. I was looking
at the stream earlier during

1687
01:41:48,420 --> 01:41:51,150
Darren O'Neil does a live the
live rock and roll pre stream.

1688
01:41:51,780 --> 01:41:55,080
And you know, and then he hands
over to me it's always seamless,

1689
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,740
fantastic. And I play a couple
of mixes that I might be playing

1690
01:41:58,740 --> 01:42:01,860
at the end of the show and other
stuff. And then you come on and

1691
01:42:02,100 --> 01:42:04,680
we're yapping. And then we have
the whole fat lady and all this

1692
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,170
stuff. And someone said Well,
hold on. This is not in the

1693
01:42:07,170 --> 01:42:11,340
regular podcast. That's the
beauty. This is hat and this is

1694
01:42:11,340 --> 01:42:14,730
where you see how the sausage is
made. And that is only something

1695
01:42:14,730 --> 01:42:18,120
trolls can handle. So join us
there no agenda stream.com We're

1696
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:22,830
down to 1000 Roughly, that we
can still handle until we hit

1697
01:42:22,830 --> 01:42:27,120
our 10k limit of no agenda.
social.com are an algo wise,

1698
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:31,860
federated social network. That
is a great place to go have

1699
01:42:31,890 --> 01:42:34,500
discussions with anyone and get
my nation but it's federated. So

1700
01:42:34,500 --> 01:42:37,980
it works across many of the
mastodon servers that have been

1701
01:42:37,980 --> 01:42:40,080
set up. It's all open source.

1702
01:42:40,469 --> 01:42:44,399
John C. Dvorak: Did you did you
say we only have 1000 slots

1703
01:42:44,399 --> 01:42:47,609
left? Yeah, we're just about
9000 people

1704
01:42:49,860 --> 01:42:53,850
Adam Curry: were bad bed. We're
nationwide and the signal to

1705
01:42:53,850 --> 01:42:57,990
noise is still good. And now
people can come in through the

1706
01:42:58,020 --> 01:43:01,080
through the Federation. So you
can still address at John C.

1707
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:05,130
Dvorak at no agenda social.com
Or at Adam? At no agenda

1708
01:43:05,130 --> 01:43:09,540
social.com. And you can follow
people and it's it's growing.

1709
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,930
I'm seeing more and more people
starting to do this. And it's

1710
01:43:12,930 --> 01:43:17,100
the only way out. At least for
now. That doesn't seem to me to

1711
01:43:17,130 --> 01:43:17,640
be many.

1712
01:43:18,150 --> 01:43:22,470
John C. Dvorak: I would question
your cut off at 10,000 But do I

1713
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:25,590
see it I think it's fine. It's
probably better and that's the

1714
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:30,840
way all these things should be
question with social to

1715
01:43:30,930 --> 01:43:32,610
Adam Curry: deal with that.
That's my point. You can do that

1716
01:43:32,610 --> 01:43:37,020
you can federate but why do you
question the 10,000

1717
01:43:37,650 --> 01:43:39,330
John C. Dvorak: question at
first because then why are we

1718
01:43:39,330 --> 01:43:42,210
being limited? Why are we
limiting? And then I realized

1719
01:43:42,210 --> 01:43:45,780
that you know, it's 10,000 is
probably an ideal number.

1720
01:43:45,810 --> 01:43:47,760
Adam Curry: Yeah, and the rest
can still come in and

1721
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:51,270
participate but yeah, and start
another one there's another no

1722
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:54,600
agenda Mastodon site there's
people have to go there but they

1723
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:58,170
never will. Yeah, no agenda
sucks. No, it's no agenda the

1724
01:43:58,170 --> 01:44:03,240
Reddit boys. No, I think it's no
agenda dot social. I think

1725
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,570
that's what it is that the
Reddit boys met my my phone

1726
01:44:06,570 --> 01:44:11,040
doesn't even resolve Reddit.
Sometimes I'll click on a link

1727
01:44:11,070 --> 01:44:15,030
I'll read it. And now could I
turn it off yet? Do I know? Like

1728
01:44:15,060 --> 01:44:18,300
there's nothing on Reddit that I
need to see so bad. Just

1729
01:44:18,300 --> 01:44:24,960
nothing. So that's it? No agenda
social.com Now you can email me

1730
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,230
for an invite. I'm not going to
answer you because you need to

1731
01:44:28,230 --> 01:44:31,260
go on your own quest to find
this these people. We are we are

1732
01:44:31,260 --> 01:44:35,970
around people ask online you'll
find someone or just get an

1733
01:44:35,970 --> 01:44:39,810
account on any other Mastodon
server and you can join in the

1734
01:44:39,810 --> 01:44:45,600
fun. And in the morning to our
artists for episode 13 Whoa

1735
01:44:45,630 --> 01:44:54,900
13 120 Let me just bring this up
for a second 1320 Let me see.

1736
01:44:55,200 --> 01:45:01,860
Now we titled that one.
Quarantine Dodgers. Ah, yes.

1737
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:03,960
This was the year of the bull
crap.

1738
01:45:05,279 --> 01:45:07,739
John C. Dvorak: And they did
talk about it but it was I think

1739
01:45:07,739 --> 01:45:12,119
the day after day or two day
after, yeah. Chinese New Year,

1740
01:45:12,180 --> 01:45:15,180
Adam Curry: Taunton, nail,
Taunton, nail. Taunton nails it

1741
01:45:15,180 --> 01:45:15,630
again.

1742
01:45:16,319 --> 01:45:19,289
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Taunton
nailed it with this bullcrap

1743
01:45:19,289 --> 01:45:21,899
thing and I, we looked at all
the different I was the big

1744
01:45:21,899 --> 01:45:26,999
promoter of this piece. I like
to pieces. I like that one and

1745
01:45:26,999 --> 01:45:31,619
the quarantine Dodger that had
the pinstripes, by Who is this?

1746
01:45:31,949 --> 01:45:33,569
Or this lotta lien,

1747
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,810
Adam Curry: lots of bottling
lots of lean, who was not Dutch

1748
01:45:37,710 --> 01:45:38,700
string lot deleted,

1749
01:45:38,700 --> 01:45:40,560
John C. Dvorak: not Dutch. And
you asked, but you'd like to

1750
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,310
goat, which is also tagged to
Neil, which is the Fetta label,

1751
01:45:44,340 --> 01:45:47,040
which was cute, and had a lot of
nice elements to it.

1752
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:49,500
Adam Curry: Yes.

1753
01:45:49,830 --> 01:45:51,120
John C. Dvorak: Anything else
that we liked? Yeah,

1754
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:53,520
Adam Curry: that was the
original finish goat milk feta.

1755
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:56,340
Yeah, I liked that one. No, I
think that was it. That was

1756
01:45:56,340 --> 01:46:02,520
probably it was anything else?
No. It was. Tina said to me. You

1757
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:06,540
know, I was listening to the
show. On pod friend some one of

1758
01:46:06,540 --> 01:46:11,820
our 2.0 apps. Just I also I hear
ser changing all the time

1759
01:46:11,820 --> 01:46:17,460
throughout the show. See ya. So
it's an extra dimension that

1760
01:46:17,460 --> 01:46:21,660
delighted her I just wanted to
pass that along. He's new

1761
01:46:21,660 --> 01:46:25,830
podcast, pretty shiny objects,
new podcast. apps.com. Well, Dr.

1762
01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:28,680
Scott gets to do fun stuff, he
gets to put crazy shit in there

1763
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,920
when we're talking. It's all
from the Art Generator. So it's

1764
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:35,880
a good way for the art generate
art to still get exposure. But

1765
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,070
he always puts it in with a
great topic. So it's always

1766
01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:38,460
funny.

1767
01:46:39,450 --> 01:46:42,210
John C. Dvorak: To know, Neil
also had a night he did a series

1768
01:46:42,210 --> 01:46:48,150
of goat labels with the producer
owned since 2000. Yes, yes. And

1769
01:46:48,150 --> 01:46:50,970
the last one, he had a very nice
pretty goat head and the one he

1770
01:46:50,970 --> 01:46:55,320
finished with but he couldn't
quite convince us. The bull the

1771
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:59,910
bull, the Red Bull thing was a
little, I would consider it an

1772
01:46:59,910 --> 01:47:04,620
off the wall pick. Yeah. Because
we didn't talk about New Year at

1773
01:47:04,620 --> 01:47:07,380
all. And it was very rare. But
it was something that I think we

1774
01:47:07,380 --> 01:47:11,400
needed to use because it wasn't
going to be useful ever again.

1775
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:17,250
And I should mention one more
thing. People on evergreen art.

1776
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:21,960
Know what that word evergreen
refers to? I looked I looked

1777
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:23,850
through the Evergreen art to
there's a whole bunch of

1778
01:47:23,850 --> 01:47:30,090
evergreen art would show
numbers. Oh, the Evergreen means

1779
01:47:30,090 --> 01:47:34,020
is something that we could go
look at in a pinch. Maybe find

1780
01:47:34,020 --> 01:47:38,670
something there because it could
be used forever. And if it's

1781
01:47:38,670 --> 01:47:41,760
very specific, or if it's got a
show number on it that's not

1782
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:46,200
evergreen. No, I've never will
be and never will be so so we

1783
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:47,670
stand with Evergreen means we

1784
01:47:47,670 --> 01:47:50,700
Adam Curry: have a new term that
when new verb. If you do

1785
01:47:50,700 --> 01:47:54,000
something really cool, you just
say oh man, I trumped it. Nailed

1786
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:54,180
it.

1787
01:47:57,630 --> 01:47:58,620
John C. Dvorak: Taunton nailed

1788
01:47:58,950 --> 01:48:01,500
Adam Curry: ah, and the one
other thing I wanted to mention.

1789
01:48:02,670 --> 01:48:06,750
Just as a fun little fun little
fun fact. We were looking at

1790
01:48:06,780 --> 01:48:12,720
naming the show flew data. But
we Oh yes. Yeah, we we rejected

1791
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:18,540
that. Because it would consist
of an axle a Gu, I believe? Yes.

1792
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:25,710
On the eagle. And that is a
character that in many cases,

1793
01:48:26,010 --> 01:48:31,320
most cases, the last time I did
it, even Apple breaks the RSS

1794
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:35,610
feed. You can't put that unless
you'd like escape it. And

1795
01:48:35,610 --> 01:48:37,620
John C. Dvorak: actually, we had
a lot of debate about this

1796
01:48:37,620 --> 01:48:41,250
because Adam was because I
pushed through the art Adam was

1797
01:48:41,310 --> 01:48:44,580
adamant about using flu data
because he just thought it was

1798
01:48:44,580 --> 01:48:48,810
so cute. And he knew he was his
objection was largely Well, you

1799
01:48:48,810 --> 01:48:51,300
know, we should be the ones
credited for coining it because

1800
01:48:51,300 --> 01:48:54,000
people are going to be using it
all over the place. Which which

1801
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:54,180
I

1802
01:48:54,180 --> 01:48:56,040
Unknown: wish didn't happen
which didn't happen

1803
01:48:57,210 --> 01:49:01,020
John C. Dvorak: nobody used it
but it's but so I finally I find

1804
01:49:01,020 --> 01:49:02,220
he beat me down.

1805
01:49:02,370 --> 01:49:05,820
Adam Curry: Oh man, You're so
lame. Oh, oh, don't I'm going to

1806
01:49:05,820 --> 01:49:08,430
record these things. Now. You
should hear the titles you come

1807
01:49:08,430 --> 01:49:12,060
up with the goat salad is good.
Come on man.

1808
01:49:13,020 --> 01:49:16,110
John C. Dvorak: Like us and
while Tom but that you were I

1809
01:49:16,140 --> 01:49:19,590
gave in I gave in. And that's
when you typed it out too. And

1810
01:49:19,590 --> 01:49:24,300
you didn't realize it had this
accent or goo that when I was

1811
01:49:24,300 --> 01:49:27,300
just I was shocked by the fact
that you're not gonna you beat

1812
01:49:27,300 --> 01:49:30,390
me up and then you didn't get
the usual use the blame.

1813
01:49:30,420 --> 01:49:33,000
Adam Curry: I didn't win the war
and the battle fizzled. It was

1814
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:36,930
really sad. And especially over
the word de tot. It was it was

1815
01:49:36,930 --> 01:49:41,100
like a very, very bad day loss
loss all around town to nail

1816
01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:43,860
Thank you very much. Great job.
Thank you to all of our artists

1817
01:49:43,860 --> 01:49:47,100
who participated in our value
for value network, which is

1818
01:49:47,490 --> 01:49:50,100
everyone who was listening now
you're not a listener, you're a

1819
01:49:50,100 --> 01:49:53,340
producer and you have obligation
if you want the show to be

1820
01:49:53,340 --> 01:49:56,550
better. And if you get any value
from it and consider putting it

1821
01:49:56,550 --> 01:49:58,860
back in when it's your time
you'll know when you've got

1822
01:49:59,010 --> 01:50:02,400
talent that you can band on the
show if there's some time you

1823
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,670
can take to do something to give
us information. And then there's

1824
01:50:05,670 --> 01:50:09,390
treasures the three T's of the
value for value network and for

1825
01:50:09,390 --> 01:50:13,560
the art, you can just look at
our one of our new podcast apps

1826
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:19,110
as as, as the art swings by, or
go to nogen art generator.com

1827
01:50:19,110 --> 01:50:22,980
Look at them all. contribute as
well. And let's thank our

1828
01:50:22,980 --> 01:50:25,620
executive and Associate
Executive producers for episode

1829
01:50:25,620 --> 01:50:28,260
1321.

1830
01:50:28,650 --> 01:50:31,770
John C. Dvorak: Yes, it's gonna
be a long show can be

1831
01:50:31,770 --> 01:50:35,610
Valentine's Day very top heavy.
And finally, this is the only

1832
01:50:35,610 --> 01:50:39,180
Valentine's Day show that ever
to find success.

1833
01:50:40,590 --> 01:50:42,870
Adam Curry: Well, it's also on a
Sunday usually is not on a

1834
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:44,610
Sunday. Right?

1835
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:48,780
John C. Dvorak: I think grousing
about it helped this okay, props

1836
01:50:48,780 --> 01:50:52,800
to you good work. No I think
Grace thing we both grouse about

1837
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:56,430
it, like rushed about it in the
newsletter but also grace we

1838
01:50:56,430 --> 01:51:00,600
Grace about on the show. And we
did maybe Mother's Day and

1839
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:02,520
Father's Day coming up might be

1840
01:51:02,910 --> 01:51:06,420
Adam Curry: about this. Maybe
people are just more

1841
01:51:06,420 --> 01:51:11,460
appreciative of their loved ones
I said it of their loved ones or

1842
01:51:11,460 --> 01:51:16,770
their loved one after the you
know the events of the past 1214

1843
01:51:16,770 --> 01:51:20,160
months and people are very still
alive and you're right maybe

1844
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:24,390
Mother's Day and Father's Day
will will succeed this year as

1845
01:51:24,420 --> 01:51:30,000
as love is for all Let's hope
so. Love his love man because we

1846
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:30,270
got

1847
01:51:30,300 --> 01:51:33,750
John C. Dvorak: four toppers
here he's contributing $1,000

1848
01:51:33,780 --> 01:51:38,130
Oh, whoa, Van drew Scott at the
top of the list by kind of

1849
01:51:38,130 --> 01:51:44,280
cheating it up a little bit and
contributing $1,000.69 Nice for

1850
01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:47,250
my credit please use the name
band drew Scott first time

1851
01:51:47,250 --> 01:51:52,560
producer I figured out here get
go big, go big or go home and

1852
01:51:52,560 --> 01:52:00,240
pay Adam back for his hand in
inventing podcasting. Oh I owe

1853
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:05,520
him because I run a YouTube
channel called pod cast edge

1854
01:52:05,700 --> 01:52:09,510
podcast edge why review
microphones?

1855
01:52:09,540 --> 01:52:11,340
Adam Curry: Oh, let me get this
to be listening and I'm gonna

1856
01:52:11,340 --> 01:52:16,200
get this straight. He's happy I
created podcasting. Any any has

1857
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:20,070
a show called podcaster edge,
but it's on YouTube.

1858
01:52:21,330 --> 01:52:22,800
John C. Dvorak: That's on
YouTube in Yeah, you

1859
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,740
Adam Curry: can put that on on
podcast to video on

1860
01:52:25,740 --> 01:52:27,930
John C. Dvorak: YouTube. Right.
But on podcasting 2.0 Plus.

1861
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:28,800
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you.

1862
01:52:28,980 --> 01:52:32,520
John C. Dvorak: I review
Microphones and Audio gear for

1863
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,340
podcasters that's probably a
nice show. I'd be interested in

1864
01:52:35,340 --> 01:52:38,340
listening to the podcast we'll
go check it out. I would not

1865
01:52:38,340 --> 01:52:41,550
have stumbled into this hobby
had Adam not invented

1866
01:52:41,550 --> 01:52:44,730
podcasting. for marketing
reasons. If anyone is looking

1867
01:52:44,730 --> 01:52:49,860
for audio gear and Needs Review
Check podcast didj.com pod pod

1868
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:56,790
ca t I'm sorry. Okay, let's
start over P O D C A S T A G so

1869
01:52:56,790 --> 01:53:03,300
you get pod cast, and stage kind
of jammed into ASOs podcast page

1870
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:04,260
like roughage

1871
01:53:04,500 --> 01:53:06,480
Adam Curry: podcast, it's just
the same you can eat them to

1872
01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:07,050
taste to say

1873
01:53:08,310 --> 01:53:10,350
John C. Dvorak: I also
appreciate the weekly sanity

1874
01:53:10,350 --> 01:53:14,790
check. You know the shows on
twice a week but that's okay. As

1875
01:53:14,790 --> 01:53:18,510
it has kept me from completely
losing my mind over the last

1876
01:53:18,510 --> 01:53:22,740
year. May I be knighted sir
mechanic. And we can have a

1877
01:53:22,740 --> 01:53:26,520
vintage u 47. at the round table
to eat.

1878
01:53:26,820 --> 01:53:28,290
Adam Curry: What is the U 47?

1879
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,620
John C. Dvorak: Oh that's the
that's the fabulous Telefunken

1880
01:53:32,610 --> 01:53:36,870
Oh microphone Neumann Telefunken
depending on which there was an

1881
01:53:36,870 --> 01:53:40,590
era where there's they both did
the same, Mike, this is Mike

1882
01:53:40,590 --> 01:53:46,770
from I think 1947 Or it's not
from there, but it's it was it's

1883
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:52,650
the mic QA Yeah, you 40 You have
a youth 47 You have a mic What

1884
01:53:52,650 --> 01:53:55,320
about if especially if it's
vintage and in good shape?

1885
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:59,610
Probably around between two and
$5,000

1886
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:01,050
Adam Curry: Holy crap.

1887
01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:05,490
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I actually
got to use one once. And I've

1888
01:54:05,490 --> 01:54:08,220
used the clones is clones and I
gotta use

1889
01:54:09,300 --> 01:54:11,190
Adam Curry: I've used the I
haven't used one at home but

1890
01:54:11,190 --> 01:54:11,910
I've used it

1891
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:14,280
John C. Dvorak: today have a
transistor version now that

1892
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:14,970
actually sounds

1893
01:54:16,020 --> 01:54:21,450
Adam Curry: to the FET. So the
the Neumann U 47. FET. Which is

1894
01:54:21,450 --> 01:54:22,290
the transistor.

1895
01:54:22,650 --> 01:54:24,930
John C. Dvorak: It's a good
sounding mic too, but the

1896
01:54:24,930 --> 01:54:26,910
original one is 45 us

1897
01:54:28,170 --> 01:54:31,140
Adam Curry: $4,000 And the
original. That's what you

1898
01:54:31,140 --> 01:54:35,220
John C. Dvorak: want. I use the
original the 4000 is for the FET

1899
01:54:35,250 --> 01:54:35,730
Yeah, this

1900
01:54:35,730 --> 01:54:37,320
Adam Curry: was new I'm looking
for I'm looking

1901
01:54:37,350 --> 01:54:40,140
John C. Dvorak: anyway, I use
one ONE HOLY CRAP

1902
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:43,320
Adam Curry: $10,000

1903
01:54:43,500 --> 01:54:46,380
John C. Dvorak: Okay, I use one
once it makes you sound like

1904
01:54:46,380 --> 01:54:46,800
God.

1905
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:50,580
Adam Curry: And this has the
tiers M seven capsule with a new

1906
01:54:50,580 --> 01:54:55,290
VISTA adapter that fits in the V
f 14 socket. Oh my god, I'm

1907
01:54:55,290 --> 01:55:02,880
slick. Once you buy it well,
it's 10,000 and 999 plus $150

1908
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:03,390
shipping

1909
01:55:05,370 --> 01:55:08,220
Unknown: that's outrageous
that's a beautiful

1910
01:55:08,220 --> 01:55:11,370
Adam Curry: oh my god honey I
finally know what I really want

1911
01:55:11,370 --> 01:55:13,740
one day for Christmas one day
one of

1912
01:55:14,190 --> 01:55:16,170
John C. Dvorak: these so he
wants it yeah you'll be

1913
01:55:16,170 --> 01:55:21,030
defective he wants to get to
round table to record the feast

1914
01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:21,570
Okay, okay

1915
01:55:21,570 --> 01:55:27,030
well that's fine just for you
know jingles no karma don't drop

1916
01:55:27,030 --> 01:55:32,700
are you 47 No Caesar gray but
and but there's all these

1917
01:55:32,700 --> 01:55:36,450
companies that cropped up to by
the way that since the days of

1918
01:55:36,450 --> 01:55:40,050
the you 47 that make these
clones that are very expensive

1919
01:55:40,380 --> 01:55:43,200
and they've done everything they
can to get the sound alright and

1920
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,480
I think there's some out there
they probably do sound as good

1921
01:55:45,900 --> 01:55:51,030
Cesar Gray $1,000 comes in next
and he says Forgive me father

1922
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,600
for I have deuced so jingles
just relationship karma please

1923
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:57,600
nightmare sir gray of the order
of the dude's name band.

1924
01:55:57,690 --> 01:55:59,310
Adam Curry: Easy enough? You got
it, sir.

1925
01:55:59,700 --> 01:56:01,890
Unknown: You've got karma seed
round.

1926
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:04,530
John C. Dvorak: Rapid director.
Yeah.

1927
01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:07,530
Adam Curry: Can you imagine how
sad it is for those people who

1928
01:56:07,530 --> 01:56:11,970
think that that donation segment
is going to skip through it. I

1929
01:56:11,970 --> 01:56:13,260
learned something here.

1930
01:56:14,910 --> 01:56:17,160
John C. Dvorak: I'm actually
stunned that I didn't know

1931
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:20,790
Adam Curry: about that. Yeah. I
mean, I know the Neumann but I

1932
01:56:20,790 --> 01:56:25,380
didn't know about the price of
the tube Neumann that's crazy. I

1933
01:56:25,380 --> 01:56:26,190
didn't know about that.

1934
01:56:28,620 --> 01:56:31,380
John C. Dvorak: Mike will
reorder reorder and reorder and

1935
01:56:31,380 --> 01:56:36,030
reorder them. Yes. You know,
Michael rear in 1000. And it's a

1936
01:56:36,030 --> 01:56:42,180
third ITM although I love you
guys. Oh, this Valentine's Day

1937
01:56:42,180 --> 01:56:47,520
Shout Out is from my wonderful
and gorgeous wife de Monica. Oh,

1938
01:56:47,940 --> 01:56:50,820
love you baby. If you remember
she became Dame a few months

1939
01:56:50,820 --> 01:56:54,000
back. I'm a little jealous
hearing all the great stories in

1940
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,850
the roundtable parties and how
cool the Knights and Dames are

1941
01:56:56,850 --> 01:56:59,550
so please punch my card and let
me in

1942
01:57:01,890 --> 01:57:03,930
Adam Curry: all right doors open
from here on

1943
01:57:03,930 --> 01:57:06,090
John C. Dvorak: I wish to be
known as Sir Mike you guys are

1944
01:57:06,090 --> 01:57:09,090
clearly the best podcast in the
universe.

1945
01:57:09,420 --> 01:57:11,400
Adam Curry: Thank you much sir
mics are mic see you there. I'm

1946
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:15,390
John C. Dvorak: assumed to be
Sir My Jozy Demetri Demetri

1947
01:57:16,740 --> 01:57:19,860
Sebastian off and I am

1948
01:57:19,889 --> 01:57:22,169
Adam Curry: hoping Hey, from
miles to New Jersey, my old

1949
01:57:22,169 --> 01:57:24,809
stomping grounds Livingston New
Jersey used to live right nearby

1950
01:57:25,650 --> 01:57:28,440
John C. Dvorak: $1,000 Another
one on a row. Good night at

1951
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:35,010
that. Organ Donation please deed
Dushman

1952
01:57:36,810 --> 01:57:40,050
Adam Curry: you've been deed
douche. I had a texted with Joe

1953
01:57:40,050 --> 01:57:43,620
yesterday. Let's put it this
way. He texted me and said Hey,

1954
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:46,500
Tom, make sure you have my new
number. Or so I'm still on the

1955
01:57:46,500 --> 01:57:51,270
list. Yeah, I got it. I'm
grandfathered in. I'm still I'm

1956
01:57:51,270 --> 01:57:54,810
still gonna be Yeah, I'm looking
forward to my next invite.

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01:57:55,050 --> 01:57:57,240
John C. Dvorak: When you're a
local you're the DNI you're like

1958
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:59,670
the guy should be able to get in
there anytime he wants. Yeah.

1959
01:57:59,670 --> 01:58:01,500
Adam Curry: When someone can't
show up because I don't know

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01:58:01,500 --> 01:58:02,520
snow ice

1961
01:58:03,870 --> 01:58:08,670
John C. Dvorak: because of
global warming. He's been back

1962
01:58:08,670 --> 01:58:13,740
on the on the track doing a lot
of MMA. Oh, really? He's the

1963
01:58:13,740 --> 01:58:18,480
best. Do you watch that? Yeah, I
usually only watch it if he's

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01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:23,160
doing the color because he is
excellent. It's like when you

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01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,860
watch a good boxing match and
you got a good color guy there

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01:58:25,860 --> 01:58:27,930
he's telling you what oh, he
could have done this could have

1967
01:58:27,930 --> 01:58:33,300
now it gives you this this this
very little bit of, of insight

1968
01:58:33,300 --> 01:58:36,570
enough. So that makes it
enjoyable that some guys calm

1969
01:58:36,570 --> 01:58:37,980
the crap out of somebody.

1970
01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:41,250
Adam Curry: Well, I probably
would have been on this week.

1971
01:58:41,850 --> 01:58:44,310
But yeah, now we have this
problem that Elon Musk lives

1972
01:58:44,310 --> 01:58:50,100
here too. Now Elon says go to
eLance a good come second slot.

1973
01:58:50,220 --> 01:58:51,810
Yeah, he wants a carbon tax.

1974
01:58:52,980 --> 01:58:54,150
John C. Dvorak: Elon stinks.

1975
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,110
Adam Curry: It's in line with
his business. I'd say it makes

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01:58:58,110 --> 01:58:59,190
nothing but sense.

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01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,640
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, what a
scammer, that's bull crap.

1978
01:59:03,330 --> 01:59:06,840
Anyway, let's get back to our
Rogan knight who happens to be

1979
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:13,440
named Dimitri. He says I would
like to be known as Jack of

1980
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:16,950
shadows. He's getting knighted.
Sheep and human clothing and

1981
01:59:16,950 --> 01:59:20,400
goat karma for everyone please
some crystal head vodka. Yep.

1982
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:26,130
With pickles. And some hash.
Hash feel appropriate. But is

1983
01:59:26,130 --> 01:59:29,130
this the handsome hash reading
this What is he talking about?

1984
01:59:29,670 --> 01:59:33,090
Adam Curry: He says some crystal
head vodka with pickles and some

1985
01:59:33,090 --> 01:59:35,820
hash appropriate for the
occasion.

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01:59:36,900 --> 01:59:40,380
John C. Dvorak: Pickles soon. My
best regards. Okay.

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01:59:40,890 --> 01:59:43,200
Unknown: Good Karma See table
you've got

1988
01:59:45,870 --> 01:59:49,530
John C. Dvorak: Tony Cabrera
comes in with $827 he says oh

1989
01:59:49,530 --> 01:59:52,050
generous holiday greetings from
the no agenda shop. That's our

1990
01:59:52,050 --> 01:59:54,960
man. For those who struggle to
find the perfect gift. We as

1991
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:59,100
finally started adding winning
show art canvas prints to the

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01:59:59,100 --> 02:00:04,470
shop ah Why not wait there's
more hope. You can personalize

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02:00:04,470 --> 02:00:08,340
them with memorable info like
producer credits 90s Douchebag

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02:00:08,340 --> 02:00:12,720
and birthday shout outs and
more. Artists can contact us at

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02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:16,380
no agenda shop.com to learn how
to best contribute their art to

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02:00:16,410 --> 02:00:19,950
be featured on the canvases
that's wrapped us up quickly

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02:00:19,950 --> 02:00:24,660
with no jingle but a stereo goat
karma porfa Lor and I

1998
02:00:24,660 --> 02:00:29,370
Adam Curry: would I would like
to add to that what uh this is

1999
02:00:29,370 --> 02:00:33,390
all part of the value for value
model I just want people to

2000
02:00:33,390 --> 02:00:37,530
understand how beautiful this we
have no agreements no contracts

2001
02:00:37,590 --> 02:00:41,700
always says yeah, just make it
fair. And they work it out with

2002
02:00:41,700 --> 02:00:45,060
the artists everyone's getting
paid this is our cut 827 I don't

2003
02:00:45,060 --> 02:00:49,260
have to do any accounting I
don't have to go find out what I

2004
02:00:49,260 --> 02:00:54,570
it's good and he's creating new
products that we if we had to

2005
02:00:54,570 --> 02:00:56,760
have a meeting about the store
can you imagine that

2006
02:00:57,060 --> 02:00:58,710
John C. Dvorak: the guy have a
meeting right now about this

2007
02:00:58,710 --> 02:01:02,610
drama tell Tony some all right
all right first rule of

2008
02:01:02,610 --> 02:01:06,030
marketing is that you put your
top sellers right in the front

2009
02:01:06,030 --> 02:01:09,540
you push those and you pull back
and and stuff that's not really

2010
02:01:09,540 --> 02:01:12,330
moving. There's the biggest
mistake marketing guys always

2011
02:01:12,330 --> 02:01:15,450
make it don't know what they're
doing. You're not doing this but

2012
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:18,030
the people the big mistake
people make is oh this thing I

2013
02:01:18,060 --> 02:01:20,130
know it's great. I don't know
why people aren't buying it.

2014
02:01:20,130 --> 02:01:23,310
Let's push it more now. It's not
how you do it. You find it was

2015
02:01:23,310 --> 02:01:27,960
moving it push it more. I can't
find I go on the site is too

2016
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:32,910
deep. It's got too many layers
to go down. I would like to see

2017
02:01:32,910 --> 02:01:36,180
the top movers get pushed to the
front so it's easier to find.

2018
02:01:36,270 --> 02:01:40,110
For example, our anonymous
lesbian was taught telling me

2019
02:01:40,110 --> 02:01:43,290
about a pink I think it's a no
agenda hat she had she wears

2020
02:01:43,290 --> 02:01:47,040
around town and people look at
it and go What's that and she

2021
02:01:47,610 --> 02:01:51,810
doesn't say much about it. But
she has a pink girls baseball

2022
02:01:51,810 --> 02:01:54,960
cap which always looks good on
lots of women looks good a pink

2023
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:58,500
cap. I couldn't find it. I
looked and looked and looked and

2024
02:01:58,500 --> 02:02:01,290
looked into it. I said here's
this here's somewhere just

2025
02:02:01,290 --> 02:02:03,480
saying just trying to help

2026
02:02:03,809 --> 02:02:09,839
Adam Curry: Hmm It's
interesting. When I Yeah, yeah,

2027
02:02:09,869 --> 02:02:17,849
that's hard. Although when i
It's the trucker 33 hat. I think

2028
02:02:17,879 --> 02:02:18,389
I just

2029
02:02:18,540 --> 02:02:20,640
John C. Dvorak: I just maybe
she's got a 33 head I'm not sure

2030
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:23,130
what she's talking about. I
couldn't find anything as if

2031
02:02:23,130 --> 02:02:25,290
Adam Curry: he just Bing it. The
you get it? If you go into the

2032
02:02:25,290 --> 02:02:28,530
site, it's hard to find is that
what you're saying? Yeah, yeah,

2033
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:29,310
here. Yeah.

2034
02:02:30,179 --> 02:02:32,759
John C. Dvorak: Tony can fix
that. He got the message here

2035
02:02:32,759 --> 02:02:35,099
just for and it's free, free
consulting.

2036
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:36,750
Adam Curry: Wow, that was a
longer meeting than was

2037
02:02:36,750 --> 02:02:38,760
necessary. I was happy we had no
meeting.

2038
02:02:40,050 --> 02:02:43,350
Unknown: Sarah Gonzalez, I need
to I need to give them the

2039
02:02:43,620 --> 02:02:45,750
Adam Curry: stereo car. Oh,
sorry.

2040
02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:47,760
Unknown: You've got

2041
02:02:54,750 --> 02:02:58,020
John C. Dvorak: Sarah Gonzalez
in Houston, Texas. Three Three.

2042
02:02:59,880 --> 02:03:02,970
Dear guardians of reality. I'd
like to dedicate this happy

2043
02:03:02,970 --> 02:03:06,510
Valentine's donation another one
yet to my smokin hot hubby

2044
02:03:06,540 --> 02:03:11,190
Rolando. Ah JCD you made his day
last Sunday during the live pre

2045
02:03:11,190 --> 02:03:14,610
show when you complimented his
end of show mix and said he was

2046
02:03:14,610 --> 02:03:19,170
good and should DJ I must tell
you that he does have the

2047
02:03:19,170 --> 02:03:22,800
turntables and a very badass
record collection. I definitely

2048
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:27,030
thought him his mixing was the
coolest thing ever when we first

2049
02:03:27,030 --> 02:03:28,800
met maybe mix.

2050
02:03:29,460 --> 02:03:33,630
Adam Curry: Mix the ship. Come
on for a second. What was that

2051
02:03:33,630 --> 02:03:37,980
mix sound you make? scratching
it up

2052
02:03:38,009 --> 02:03:41,339
John C. Dvorak: Gretchen though
he doesn't have much time to

2053
02:03:41,339 --> 02:03:45,659
play around on them as he did in
those days. he dedicates his

2054
02:03:45,659 --> 02:03:49,079
talent to creating some fabulous
no agenda mixes and always makes

2055
02:03:49,079 --> 02:03:52,739
time for me and our daughters.
Maya and Alice are that sweet?

2056
02:03:52,979 --> 02:03:56,609
That's what he's supposed to do
ya. So I'm happy that this

2057
02:03:56,609 --> 02:04:01,649
donation take us together to the
round. Just

2058
02:04:02,190 --> 02:04:03,840
Adam Curry: barrier to entry
man.

2059
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:07,440
Unknown: Yeah, actually makes
time for us.

2060
02:04:07,950 --> 02:04:10,050
John C. Dvorak: So I'm happy
that this donation will take us

2061
02:04:10,050 --> 02:04:12,540
together to the round table of
the greatest podcast in the

2062
02:04:12,540 --> 02:04:16,410
universe of county emailed I
can't thank you enough for your

2063
02:04:16,410 --> 02:04:19,500
courage and the sanity Your show
is the only way I can stomach

2064
02:04:19,500 --> 02:04:25,770
the news these days. And your
infotainment has brought me many

2065
02:04:25,770 --> 02:04:30,030
laughs during the not so funny
COVID era please dump me as sir

2066
02:04:30,030 --> 02:04:35,280
Zaanse and Dames Sara are us I
guess Yeah, always got going on.

2067
02:04:35,310 --> 02:04:40,320
They got 2000 Okay, sir Zaanse
and Dame Sarah of the flood

2068
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:45,420
plain housing. We'd love some
chocolate. Trey

2069
02:04:45,450 --> 02:04:49,680
Adam Curry: Tres Leches right
Tres Leches wrestling Yeah,

2070
02:04:50,370 --> 02:04:52,650
John C. Dvorak: let's easily
Yeah, let me see if both their

2071
02:04:52,650 --> 02:04:55,380
names are on that list by the
way and cold brew at the

2072
02:04:55,380 --> 02:04:58,320
roundtable. It's not too much if
it's not too much trouble. Yeah,

2073
02:04:58,320 --> 02:05:01,110
I think we can or Adam Yeah, I
got They already do great work

2074
02:05:01,110 --> 02:05:05,670
and lots of good karma to all
and get mon nation deign to be

2075
02:05:05,670 --> 02:05:06,330
shared. Yes,

2076
02:05:06,330 --> 02:05:10,170
Adam Curry: we have Sarah to be
named Sarah and Rolando, sir

2077
02:05:10,170 --> 02:05:13,290
Zaentz Yes, it's in there. And
since they asked for just a

2078
02:05:13,290 --> 02:05:16,080
Karma I did want to remind
everybody we have different

2079
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:17,430
types of karma available.

2080
02:05:19,590 --> 02:05:24,420
Unknown: You got karma

2081
02:05:27,750 --> 02:05:33,660
John C. Dvorak: just saying,
hey, go, trap 3333 That's gonna

2082
02:05:33,660 --> 02:05:36,510
be a long show today. Yeah, your
discussion of social media is

2083
02:05:36,510 --> 02:05:40,350
very important in your mention
of clubhouse with a Gora Chinese

2084
02:05:40,350 --> 02:05:45,780
interests in the last show led
me to donate. I was really

2085
02:05:45,780 --> 02:05:50,280
involved in a social media black
chain called steam with two E's

2086
02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:54,870
Yes, early last year, the US
based blockchain was taken over

2087
02:05:54,870 --> 02:06:00,810
by Chinese interests led by
Justin son of Tron. This was a

2088
02:06:00,810 --> 02:06:07,080
deep POS attack, delegated proof
of stake along with a known

2089
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:11,550
vector and very large segment of
the community engaged in a hard

2090
02:06:11,550 --> 02:06:15,960
fork to circumvent the Chinese
have tak vector which was money,

2091
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:20,580
money, money. There's a lot of
scandal but it's very relevant

2092
02:06:20,790 --> 02:06:24,540
geopolitically. Here's a link to
read more about the show and

2093
02:06:24,540 --> 02:06:24,990
he's got a

2094
02:06:25,020 --> 02:06:27,870
Adam Curry: link put it in the
show notes. Good good.

2095
02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:31,350
John C. Dvorak: This one year
old social media blockchain is

2096
02:06:31,350 --> 02:06:37,800
called hive can be viewed on P
peaked pa K d.com. And a dozen

2097
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:41,760
other domains and could be used
to immediately immutably

2098
02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:46,500
immutably store the text
archives for no agenda social if

2099
02:06:46,500 --> 02:06:50,820
you if you wish. I have plenty
of tokens to make this happen if

2100
02:06:50,820 --> 02:06:58,110
someone wants to contact me, I
am at E coin stammt. It's like E

2101
02:06:58,140 --> 02:07:03,960
coin another two words jam
together e c o i n 's sta and t

2102
02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:10,530
like coin instant on no agenda
social. This third 33333 Makes

2103
02:07:10,530 --> 02:07:12,690
me a knight if Adam will provide
the penny. Yep,

2104
02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:13,560
Adam Curry: got it right there.

2105
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:17,820
John C. Dvorak: Please Knight me
sir. Eat go instant. Please add

2106
02:07:17,820 --> 02:07:21,660
freedom and friendship to the
roundtable. Thanks for all the

2107
02:07:21,660 --> 02:07:22,170
value.

2108
02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:25,500
Adam Curry: I'd like to say
something about hive. intimately

2109
02:07:25,500 --> 02:07:29,250
familiar with this, at least
with the story as our very own

2110
02:07:29,250 --> 02:07:34,080
Sir Brian of London is heavily
involved not just with hive. But

2111
02:07:34,530 --> 02:07:40,080
if you look at podcasting 2.0 he
is he's very far along with

2112
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:44,760
creating a bridge for hive
tokens and the streaming

2113
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:47,640
payments system that we're
putting into place. There's the

2114
02:07:47,640 --> 02:07:51,150
value for value payments, so
great. You're the second person

2115
02:07:51,150 --> 02:07:54,660
I've heard talk about it. But
it's it's it is an interesting

2116
02:07:54,660 --> 02:07:57,840
story. And it is a Moreover,
more. It's more funny because

2117
02:07:57,840 --> 02:08:01,170
Facebook is involved in this in
this scandal. And it was a bunch

2118
02:08:01,170 --> 02:08:03,960
of people who said hey, screw
you, China. Screw you China men.

2119
02:08:05,490 --> 02:08:09,720
Obviously racists. So thank you
very much, Alex, we appreciate

2120
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:10,830
that. And I'll see you at the
roundtable.

2121
02:08:12,090 --> 02:08:16,080
John C. Dvorak: Ross Easterling
in new brown fells Texas. These

2122
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:20,880
by the way, are all generally
33333 It's

2123
02:08:20,970 --> 02:08:22,680
Adam Curry: Monday shows really?

2124
02:08:23,940 --> 02:08:26,550
John C. Dvorak: Yeah,
Valentine's Day donations. Yes.

2125
02:08:26,550 --> 02:08:26,640
And

2126
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:27,360
Adam Curry: they're important.

2127
02:08:30,630 --> 02:08:33,510
John C. Dvorak: John, take a
deep breath here and let me set

2128
02:08:33,510 --> 02:08:41,430
the grill thing go he's from New
Braunfels, Texas yes and slowly

2129
02:08:41,430 --> 02:08:46,830
I turn to my lovely wife
Elizabeth Happy Valentine's Day

2130
02:08:46,830 --> 02:08:52,320
sparkler. Ah thank you John and
Adam I know jingles little karma

2131
02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:55,170
producer credit to Dame
sparkler. Okay, we

2132
02:08:55,170 --> 02:08:56,850
Adam Curry: have to made an
appropriate change named

2133
02:08:56,850 --> 02:08:57,900
sparkler. Thank you.

2134
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:04,740
John C. Dvorak: Switcheroo.
Courtney. Or tell 333 Parts

2135
02:09:04,740 --> 02:09:07,800
Unknown Hey guys, please send me
some jobs and moving camera my

2136
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:11,910
husband's way. There. Thanks for
keeping me sane stay safe by

2137
02:09:11,940 --> 02:09:17,460
Unknown: E jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for jobs.

2138
02:09:22,290 --> 02:09:26,730
John C. Dvorak: Trevor Massey's
next in Arvada, Colorado 333 33.

2139
02:09:26,730 --> 02:09:29,730
Gentlemen, it's a birthday to
thank you for your courage

2140
02:09:29,730 --> 02:09:33,030
writing to wish my smokin hot
wife Dane Valentine of the Blue

2141
02:09:33,030 --> 02:09:36,840
Bird powder region i Happy
birthday on 214 A show day.

2142
02:09:39,510 --> 02:09:44,730
Jingles Biden. Come on man. TPP
jobs and Boogity boogity Come on

2143
02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:45,240
man.

2144
02:09:53,490 --> 02:10:04,440
Unknown: The drivers jobs jobs
job I'm John Carmack

2145
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:11,070
John C. Dvorak: John

2146
02:10:12,750 --> 02:10:16,110
Adam Curry: Knutson, Knutson,
Knutson.

2147
02:10:16,980 --> 02:10:21,120
John C. Dvorak: I think it's
Knutson Okay. As opposed to

2148
02:10:21,120 --> 02:10:28,260
Knutson in Des Moines 333 dot
33. No jingles no karma. Thank

2149
02:10:28,260 --> 02:10:31,890
you. My good friend Dean Lewin
donated 120 for the no agenda

2150
02:10:31,890 --> 02:10:34,350
set of betting on the Super Bowl
last Sunday he would have lost

2151
02:10:34,350 --> 02:10:39,090
his shirt. To honor his decision
I'm crediting 124 of his

2152
02:10:39,090 --> 02:10:41,730
donation to doubled his
downpayment on his knighthood

2153
02:10:41,790 --> 02:10:46,530
I'll be counting will believe
you. He's already saved at least

2154
02:10:46,530 --> 02:10:50,400
$1,000 on Carnival cruises
liquor fees over the past year.

2155
02:10:50,730 --> 02:10:54,750
He should be a knight already
getting called a douchebag by

2156
02:10:54,750 --> 02:10:59,400
JCD was a great joy. But it's
time for me to be de douche.

2157
02:11:01,530 --> 02:11:05,610
You've been deemed deuced I owe
you much more for all the value

2158
02:11:05,610 --> 02:11:08,700
I've received over the years.
Thank you for all you do. John

2159
02:11:08,700 --> 02:11:09,510
Knutson.

2160
02:11:09,750 --> 02:11:15,300
Adam Curry: Now does that mean
that Knutson get the the exec

2161
02:11:15,300 --> 02:11:17,430
producers shippers that also go
to

2162
02:11:17,670 --> 02:11:20,610
John C. Dvorak: now going on? I
guess not 2124 of it anyway.

2163
02:11:21,210 --> 02:11:21,930
Adam Curry: All right, you're
right.

2164
02:11:23,010 --> 02:11:26,490
John C. Dvorak: Martin wala, in
Berlin Deutschland Hello,

2165
02:11:26,490 --> 02:11:31,770
Deutschland 330. Do your
Deutschland bit Deutschlands

2166
02:11:31,770 --> 02:11:37,110
here's the Hoff 333 dot 33 I
love you very much John and

2167
02:11:37,110 --> 02:11:40,710
Adams Thank you yet again for
the great work I think it should

2168
02:11:40,740 --> 02:11:44,160
I should be a night by now so I
understood that the in a system

2169
02:11:44,190 --> 02:11:47,640
how it works. Could you give me
the title Sir Martin of the

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02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:52,050
Wallah got it and sucky and
sushi at the round table you got

2171
02:11:52,050 --> 02:11:56,010
Oh, I saw each lander having
Sakis sushi instead of

2172
02:11:56,370 --> 02:11:59,580
Adam Curry: brats was eaten in
the it's a sucky garden.

2173
02:12:00,210 --> 02:12:05,790
John C. Dvorak: Last I saw last
I would love some F cancer karma

2174
02:12:05,790 --> 02:12:08,220
love you much. All the best
Martin

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02:12:13,380 --> 02:12:14,190
Unknown: you've got

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02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:19,590
John C. Dvorak: karma. Chris
Chris Hubbard and Denver 333 dot

2177
02:12:19,590 --> 02:12:23,580
30 Good news. The donation makes
me a night I would like to be

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02:12:23,580 --> 02:12:32,730
knighted sir GM a dis Odysseus
no roundtable requests just

2179
02:12:32,730 --> 02:12:35,910
grateful to be there. Bad news I
write this note with a heavy

2180
02:12:35,910 --> 02:12:39,150
heart as my love of my life
ended our relationship yesterday

2181
02:12:39,180 --> 02:12:43,080
Adam Curry: before Valentine's
Day that's that's heartless Yes,

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02:12:43,080 --> 02:12:43,200
it

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02:12:43,200 --> 02:12:45,900
John C. Dvorak: is. Nobody
should do that. I do not seek

2184
02:12:45,900 --> 02:12:49,800
pity though. In sharing this I
do not wish to satin anyone on

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02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:50,670
this day of love.

2186
02:12:50,700 --> 02:12:52,800
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. In that
case.

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02:12:54,540 --> 02:12:57,090
John C. Dvorak: I share this to
express gratitude that in the

2188
02:12:57,090 --> 02:12:59,910
hard times such as these there's
a community like no agenda to

2189
02:12:59,910 --> 02:13:03,090
turn to support support. I will
be in the troll room and I will

2190
02:13:03,090 --> 02:13:08,460
request an invite to na social
go get him I hope it makes it in

2191
02:13:08,460 --> 02:13:13,320
before the 10k windows closed.
Yeah, you're good. You're good.

2192
02:13:13,740 --> 02:13:16,920
I made a tragic mistake of
letting 2020 wear me down

2193
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:19,080
physically, mentally,
emotionally and spiritually and

2194
02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:23,400
that mistake has now cost me my
own smokin hot Mimi. I will use

2195
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:26,280
this mistake as a learning
opportunity for personal growth

2196
02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:30,570
and development. I mean, we we
do on the shows try to cheer

2197
02:13:30,570 --> 02:13:34,200
people up. Yeah, sometimes with
bad news, but it's so cheerful.

2198
02:13:34,530 --> 02:13:37,530
I am so grateful to have
resources like no agenda to keep

2199
02:13:37,530 --> 02:13:40,500
my amygdala in check in aid me
and keeping my head on straight

2200
02:13:40,500 --> 02:13:43,020
during these challenging times
with all our listeners, whether

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02:13:43,020 --> 02:13:47,220
they're single or together the
happiest of Valentine's Days. I

2202
02:13:47,220 --> 02:13:51,450
hope you all your lovers stay
strong and stressful in these

2203
02:13:51,450 --> 02:13:55,560
stressful times and treat each
other better than I did mine. I

2204
02:13:55,560 --> 02:13:58,890
love you all thank you for your
courage sincerely Chris TGM

2205
02:13:58,890 --> 02:14:02,070
Odysseus no specific jingle
request but relatable

2206
02:14:02,370 --> 02:14:04,230
relationship health karma for
all yeah

2207
02:14:04,230 --> 02:14:06,030
Adam Curry: man. Yeah,
definitely sorry to hear that

2208
02:14:06,030 --> 02:14:10,950
but that you know, a door closes
another door opens you've got

2209
02:14:11,130 --> 02:14:12,480
karma or window

2210
02:14:15,540 --> 02:14:17,310
John C. Dvorak: credits cool.
You can take this one.

2211
02:14:18,030 --> 02:14:24,750
Adam Curry: Hey, what is he say?
Here? He is. Yeah. Curtis cool

2212
02:14:24,780 --> 02:14:29,790
is definitely from the US. No,
no town 333 I've been a constant

2213
02:14:29,790 --> 02:14:32,490
listener since April after
hearing Adam on JRE and getting

2214
02:14:32,490 --> 02:14:36,150
hit in the mouth at almost the
same time by my friend Manny. I

2215
02:14:36,150 --> 02:14:38,730
did buy some na shop items at
Christmas but I'm pretty sure

2216
02:14:38,730 --> 02:14:41,550
I'm still a douchebag because I
haven't donated so please do you

2217
02:14:41,550 --> 02:14:44,520
douche me and accept my donation
of 333

2218
02:14:45,960 --> 02:14:47,790
Unknown: You've been deed deuced

2219
02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:50,460
Adam Curry: thank you both and
everyone involved for all the

2220
02:14:50,460 --> 02:14:53,220
critical information over the
past year I've wanted to donate

2221
02:14:53,220 --> 02:14:56,910
many times but between working
15 to 18 hour days for almost

2222
02:14:56,910 --> 02:15:00,360
five months while we literally
lifted the entire come turning

2223
02:15:00,540 --> 02:15:04,500
into a new remote landscape and
enduring a pay cut while trying

2224
02:15:04,500 --> 02:15:07,680
to procure arms and ammo. It
never seemed to work out

2225
02:15:07,710 --> 02:15:12,840
understood. As always, it's just
not a shaming exercise value is

2226
02:15:12,840 --> 02:15:16,470
what its value to you. And time
talents and treasures where you

2227
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:18,960
hand back I'm donating with
something on my heart, in

2228
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:21,480
addition to wanting to cease
being a douchebag I hope he

2229
02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:24,750
might share a GoFundMe site of
created on behalf of my inlaws

2230
02:15:24,750 --> 02:15:27,900
in South Korea. On February 2,
we learned that my wife's

2231
02:15:27,900 --> 02:15:32,430
brother Phil, her last surviving
immediate family member

2232
02:15:32,430 --> 02:15:36,030
unexpectedly and suddenly took
his own life, leaving behind a

2233
02:15:36,030 --> 02:15:39,630
wife, 14 year old daughter and
12 year old fully disabled son,

2234
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:44,160
whose congenital condition I
forget the name of but back in

2235
02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:46,890
2015, Phil described it to me as
one that also means a

2236
02:15:46,890 --> 02:15:49,620
significantly shortened
lifespan. It's unlikely he'll

2237
02:15:49,620 --> 02:15:52,500
reach 20 years old. God bless
you both for what you do. And

2238
02:15:52,500 --> 02:15:56,100
thank you in advance for anyone
who's able to help us ease some

2239
02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:58,530
of their financial uncertainty
in the wake of his death. Any

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02:15:58,530 --> 02:16:02,040
amount will be truly and
honestly appreciated. Did he

2241
02:16:02,070 --> 02:16:09,450
also leave a didn't leave a link
to the GoFundMe, did he? Do you

2242
02:16:09,450 --> 02:16:12,630
see that anywhere? No, I don't
see it. Send that to me, ma'am.

2243
02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:14,880
John C. Dvorak: Send it to me
and we'll look at we'll put a

2244
02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:16,260
link in the show notes.
Eventually.

2245
02:16:16,380 --> 02:16:18,180
Adam Curry: We'll put it in the
show notes. No problem, though.

2246
02:16:18,180 --> 02:16:23,460
But his last name is Lai Hyun
Lai Han. So it's Phil. And then

2247
02:16:23,460 --> 02:16:31,350
his last name is La IHYUN. Yeah,
heaping dose

2248
02:16:31,350 --> 02:16:31,950
John C. Dvorak: of karma.

2249
02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:34,380
Adam Curry: big heaping dose.
Sorry.

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02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:36,930
Unknown: You've got karma.

2251
02:16:38,879 --> 02:16:41,639
John C. Dvorak: Mike Savelle is
our last executive producer

2252
02:16:41,639 --> 02:16:45,689
$308.45 And he sent a little
cute little note and it just

2253
02:16:45,689 --> 02:16:50,579
says Please continue to do what
you to do as well. and such. So

2254
02:16:50,579 --> 02:16:54,509
jingles no karma. No agenda.
Sincerely lovely. Like soda.

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02:16:54,509 --> 02:16:59,219
Ella, Shelby Township, Michigan
is where he is. I want to read a

2256
02:16:59,219 --> 02:17:01,649
note in the meantime, before we
get to Associate Executive

2257
02:17:01,649 --> 02:17:04,979
producers is from a woman that
should be on the knighting list.

2258
02:17:05,009 --> 02:17:08,849
Lisa Stelter, but she came in
with the with the night note

2259
02:17:08,849 --> 02:17:14,759
that we read, okay. But the
donation wouldn't qualify. It's

2260
02:17:14,759 --> 02:17:17,669
just a round offer donation, but
there's this note needs to be

2261
02:17:17,669 --> 02:17:19,529
read because it's kind of
interesting. I think a lot of

2262
02:17:19,529 --> 02:17:24,659
people will relate to it. I
finally reached Dame hood,

2263
02:17:24,749 --> 02:17:27,329
counting below, check to make
sure she's on the list. Thank

2264
02:17:27,329 --> 02:17:29,579
you for your for the sanity.
However, I do have the

2265
02:17:29,579 --> 02:17:32,969
difficulty that many other
producers do in that I'm often

2266
02:17:33,179 --> 02:17:37,949
more stressed than I used to be
by not following the universe be

2267
02:17:37,949 --> 02:17:41,879
party line, and NPR propaganda
that all my friends and

2268
02:17:41,879 --> 02:17:46,139
acquaintances here in
Chicagoland follow. In response

2269
02:17:46,139 --> 02:17:50,009
to the comment Adam made a
couple of shows ago, social

2270
02:17:50,009 --> 02:17:55,169
media is not the only factor. I
removed myself from social media

2271
02:17:55,169 --> 02:17:58,319
several months ago, because I
was making it was making me very

2272
02:17:58,349 --> 02:18:03,389
anxious in general. But it only
helps so much. Ever since my

2273
02:18:03,389 --> 02:18:06,689
husband hit me in the mouth, it
has gotten harder and harder to

2274
02:18:06,689 --> 02:18:11,069
hang out or interact with the
other parents in the area, even

2275
02:18:11,069 --> 02:18:16,079
more so in the past year. Of
course, very few people have

2276
02:18:16,079 --> 02:18:19,859
been willing to meet in person
in the past year anyway. But all

2277
02:18:19,859 --> 02:18:22,469
of our kids have been really
hurt by this and it kills me

2278
02:18:22,469 --> 02:18:26,789
that no one seems to care much
about that. Or they're in denial

2279
02:18:26,789 --> 02:18:29,639
that there will be a long term
consequence for our children.

2280
02:18:30,089 --> 02:18:33,839
The most socialization my eldest
daughter gets these days is a

2281
02:18:33,839 --> 02:18:37,259
virtual girl scout meeting once
a week, which he generally

2282
02:18:37,259 --> 02:18:40,769
dislikes. I've expressed my
concerns to the other parents,

2283
02:18:40,769 --> 02:18:44,219
but most of them respond that
they are more worried about the

2284
02:18:44,219 --> 02:18:48,959
virus. And they roll their eyes
at the crazy conspiracy theorist

2285
02:18:48,959 --> 02:18:53,729
they now think I am. The people
I know are mostly from the local

2286
02:18:53,729 --> 02:18:57,599
homeschool community, who you
would think would question the

2287
02:18:57,599 --> 02:19:01,319
government more but at least I
have my husband, the family that

2288
02:19:01,319 --> 02:19:04,829
no agendas together truly does
stay together. Wow.

2289
02:19:06,600 --> 02:19:09,210
Adam Curry: I don't have her on
any less lists. Lisa Stelter.

2290
02:19:09,870 --> 02:19:12,750
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. LISA
Stelter, she's now a dame she is

2291
02:19:12,750 --> 02:19:15,150
she on the birthday list? Oh

2292
02:19:17,910 --> 02:19:21,540
Adam Curry: yes, yes, but she's
becoming a dame as well. Yep.

2293
02:19:21,660 --> 02:19:22,800
And what's her name? Name?

2294
02:19:23,250 --> 02:19:25,140
John C. Dvorak: I think it's
just Dame Lisa families.

2295
02:19:25,290 --> 02:19:27,360
Adam Curry: Okay. Cool. Nice
now,

2296
02:19:28,110 --> 02:19:31,050
John C. Dvorak: I'll look to see
but I sent this specific note in

2297
02:19:31,500 --> 02:19:36,390
and that she shouldn't be on the
dame on the dame list. It's so

2298
02:19:36,390 --> 02:19:36,930
interesting

2299
02:19:36,929 --> 02:19:39,479
Adam Curry: how we first started
talking about homeschooling

2300
02:19:39,479 --> 02:19:45,269
probably show five. You were
once you still homeschooling,

2301
02:19:45,269 --> 02:19:47,729
Jay, when the when the when the
show starts. Yeah, probably.

2302
02:19:47,729 --> 02:19:50,969
Yeah. And just look at how many
people have decided that's the

2303
02:19:50,969 --> 02:19:51,839
way to go. Now.

2304
02:19:52,530 --> 02:19:55,200
John C. Dvorak: I don't know if
there's more to her note, or she

2305
02:19:55,200 --> 02:19:57,060
said when she had to send her
other note and talk about her

2306
02:19:57,060 --> 02:20:01,830
birthday. But no She may have
mentioned some maybe one of the

2307
02:20:01,830 --> 02:20:05,490
notes coming up mentions this.
And this really disturbed me.

2308
02:20:06,210 --> 02:20:14,460
Us, it seems as if the
homeschoolers, many, many of

2309
02:20:14,460 --> 02:20:17,040
them are using the Howard Zinn
book.

2310
02:20:17,490 --> 02:20:20,880
Adam Curry: Oh, my Let's talk.
Yeah. I want to tell I have

2311
02:20:20,880 --> 02:20:23,490
feedback about that. We'll just
talk about z and after the

2312
02:20:23,490 --> 02:20:27,960
donations. Yeah, because it's
necessary and a lot of people

2313
02:20:27,960 --> 02:20:29,100
like that talk to

2314
02:20:29,640 --> 02:20:32,010
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, they
did. John Kerry's next on the

2315
02:20:32,010 --> 02:20:34,020
list. He's our first Associate
Executive producer from

2316
02:20:34,020 --> 02:20:40,650
Alpharetta, Georgia. to 33 dot
33. Happy 33rd anniversary 233

2317
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:44,940
Yep. Love of my life. My
gorgeous wife Joanne jobs coming

2318
02:20:44,940 --> 02:20:48,060
from my son Joseph and a truly
awesome, he's a truly awesome

2319
02:20:48,060 --> 02:20:52,800
human resource mom and dad. done
good. Love you guys. You too are

2320
02:20:52,800 --> 02:20:53,700
like family

2321
02:20:53,730 --> 02:20:58,770
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for jobs.

2322
02:21:02,250 --> 02:21:04,470
John C. Dvorak: Heidi Roberts
comes in from Rye, New Hampshire

2323
02:21:04,470 --> 02:21:08,700
to 1634. This donation is on
behalf of my firstborn, Shawn

2324
02:21:08,700 --> 02:21:14,340
Roberts who turns 34 on to 16 to
1634 get it? Please de Duchesne.

2325
02:21:16,020 --> 02:21:20,250
You've been deemed deuced he was
called up by his brother Seth as

2326
02:21:20,250 --> 02:21:25,770
a douchebag. And I know it was
time to act if you would be so

2327
02:21:25,770 --> 02:21:30,450
kind for jingles. Donald Trump
doesn't like China, China's

2328
02:21:30,450 --> 02:21:34,440
asshole. Obama you might die.
Thank you, Donald Trump don't

2329
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:36,510
trust China. China is as hope

2330
02:21:36,540 --> 02:21:37,530
Unknown: you might die.

2331
02:21:38,130 --> 02:21:39,360
Adam Curry: And I'll throw in an
extra karma.

2332
02:21:39,420 --> 02:21:41,070
Unknown: You've got karma.

2333
02:21:45,060 --> 02:21:47,970
John C. Dvorak: Sir Thomas of
the nocturnal relevant Lohmann,

2334
02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:53,460
New York 215 I started out with
a subscription of $4 A week

2335
02:21:53,460 --> 02:21:55,560
after a few years I wanted to
get my knighthood faster so I

2336
02:21:55,560 --> 02:21:58,980
bumped it up to $30 a month.
That was a smart move. I was

2337
02:21:58,980 --> 02:22:01,380
naive Sir Thomas of the
nocturnal realm and episode

2338
02:22:01,410 --> 02:22:06,330
10 363 Since that time, I hit my
smokin hot wife squarely in the

2339
02:22:06,330 --> 02:22:10,980
mouth and now she looks forward
to every show I ice the family

2340
02:22:10,980 --> 02:22:13,950
that no agenda is together stays
together to no agenda show is an

2341
02:22:13,980 --> 02:22:20,220
island of sanity in a world of
crazy bullshit. With the

2342
02:22:20,220 --> 02:22:24,990
attached donation I have reached
the level in peerage however, I

2343
02:22:24,990 --> 02:22:28,080
would prefer to forget forego
that for now and do the old

2344
02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:31,500
switcheroo and bring my wife to
the roundtable hence for she may

2345
02:22:31,500 --> 02:22:36,000
be she knows Maybe she'll lie,
but she may may she be known as

2346
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:39,540
Dame Sharon of the hilltop
garden, however, I would prefer

2347
02:22:39,540 --> 02:22:42,810
to forego I'm sorry, please give
her credit as Associate

2348
02:22:42,810 --> 02:22:47,220
Executive Producer another
switch. Got it. I did it. And

2349
02:22:47,220 --> 02:22:50,190
also the donation at 215 is
appropriate since her birthday

2350
02:22:50,190 --> 02:22:54,630
is February 15. Please give her
a birthday shout out as well got

2351
02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:57,480
it if it's not too much trouble
Please give her a bit of

2352
02:22:57,480 --> 02:23:01,860
reverence our respect. And our
two d two karma thank you both

2353
02:23:01,860 --> 02:23:02,760
for all you do,

2354
02:23:02,789 --> 02:23:04,679
Adam Curry: Sir Thomas of the
nocturnal realm

2355
02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:13,320
Unknown: ESP I see. You've got

2356
02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:28,650
John C. Dvorak: Wow. Scott Scott
Knight of the Knights surname in

2357
02:23:28,650 --> 02:23:34,770
lost wages, Nevada to 1421. I
came John and Adam just

2358
02:23:34,770 --> 02:23:38,430
Valentine donations for my
smokin hot wife, Laurie. Adam at

2359
02:23:38,430 --> 02:23:43,410
the keeper in the last Las Vegas
meetup. Yes. I almost didn't

2360
02:23:43,410 --> 02:23:47,280
attend. But when my wife heard
about the meetup, she insisted

2361
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:51,750
we go that's how awesome she
has. We're not at the bar

2362
02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:55,860
hopping social type. So when we
awkwardly showed up late to the

2363
02:23:55,860 --> 02:23:59,400
meeting, Adam to keep her served
Marshall and his buddy quickly

2364
02:23:59,400 --> 02:24:03,480
made conversation with us. And
it was great fun. So to all the

2365
02:24:03,480 --> 02:24:06,630
producers out there, go to your
local meetup and start one or

2366
02:24:06,630 --> 02:24:10,530
start when can I get a boogie
boogie smokin hot wife song?

2367
02:24:10,770 --> 02:24:13,500
That sounds pretty good. And
that's true. Love you guys.

2368
02:24:13,590 --> 02:24:17,640
Thank you for the courage and
our courage to is there Scott.

2369
02:24:17,640 --> 02:24:18,330
The night of the

2370
02:24:18,360 --> 02:24:21,750
Adam Curry: nets are Scott. Yes.
It was nice meeting you guys. I

2371
02:24:21,750 --> 02:24:22,050
think

2372
02:24:22,050 --> 02:24:24,360
Unknown: that sounds pretty
good. It's true.

2373
02:24:37,260 --> 02:24:37,830
Karma.

2374
02:24:39,900 --> 02:24:44,130
John C. Dvorak: Anybody? Any
Halston Jr. in Elizabeth City,

2375
02:24:44,250 --> 02:24:48,540
North Carolina. Could there be
an Elizabeth City in North

2376
02:24:48,540 --> 02:24:55,230
Carolina to 1421? That's above
ac 214 is a reference to 214 21

2377
02:24:55,230 --> 02:24:57,690
which was never even mentioned
as a reference. Oh, no, that is

2378
02:24:57,690 --> 02:25:00,360
the that is the reference one of
the don't Yes, that is The

2379
02:25:00,450 --> 02:25:04,440
donation for Valentine's Day
please need to wish me

2380
02:25:06,240 --> 02:25:08,070
Unknown: you've been deed deuced

2381
02:25:09,330 --> 02:25:11,520
John C. Dvorak: credit this
donation to my smokin hot wife

2382
02:25:11,520 --> 02:25:14,400
Sarah Hall said Happy
Valentine's Day jingle requests

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by the way that's the switcheroo
I hope you have it. Yes, Sir

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Happy Valentine's Day juggle
requests smokin hot wife milk.

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That's true. Kenny

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Adam Curry: that's one mother
I'd like to that's true so

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childish. Love it. Yes. Sara
with tells a story. Yes, it does

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tell Tracy

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John C. Dvorak: Bassano in
Madison Alabama to 1420 my

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amazing has been my missing
piece John Bassano Happy

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Valentine's Day? No jingles? No
karma. Thanks boys.

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Adam Curry: All right, Tracy
nice. I'm sure he loves it.

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John C. Dvorak: Sure How it sir.
In Allison Park, Pennsylvania to

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1420. Valentine's Day call out
today mm sexy. Instead of

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chocolates, flowers and promises
I never intended to keep I

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thought it would be great to
give you a more lasting gift.

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Hope our new house helps find us
a more beautiful position

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against the beasts that
surrounds us. This surrounds you

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speaks in love. Sure.

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Adam Curry: You can riddles.

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John C. Dvorak: That's funny.
Sir David Wilson or David Wilson

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in Minerva, Queensland to 1420
Valentine's Day call out to

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Elizabeth D Becky ah Debakey the
Vicki anonymous rancher to 1420

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nonnamous rancher to Mrs.
Anonymous rancher Happy Birthday

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on the 13th you carry our first
child. Here's the shows that cut

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off over a yearly calf check
goats dot slash livestock karma

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please. Got it.

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Adam Curry: Needs some more
lifestyle. Calf check.

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John C. Dvorak: Start growing
wagyu you might find it very

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profitable. Hannah pettah in
Livermore, California, another

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call out to 1420 This is first
time donating my treasure.

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Please do.

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Unknown: us bad deed deuced

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John C. Dvorak: J R E listener
mid Adams episode left

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immediately in the middle of the
episode to find a no agenda

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podcast. Joe kept talking over
Adam and I really just wanted to

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hear what he was talking about.
You haven't missed an episode

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since. Thank you for what you
do.

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Adam Curry: Thank you.

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John C. Dvorak: Shout out your
husband Dan, who is the

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Valentine target? Who will be
first time listener today. That

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cut the noise and nonsense.
Listen to Adam and John. They're

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what keeps your wife sane right
now,

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Adam Curry: right man? We've
taken care of your wife and it's

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time for you to get Bowie

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John C. Dvorak: you're gonna
die. That's true. Left. Good

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night left nut bolt bite and a
whole load. Can you see the

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juices alive?

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Adam Curry: I was slacking on
the job. So it's all gonna die.

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I'm sorry.

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John C. Dvorak: We're all gonna
it's actually a good segment I

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liked it.

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Adam Curry: Sounds good. So it's
all gonna die. That's true. I

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got that one here. That's true.
And the night

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John C. Dvorak: left night.

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Adam Curry: Okay, where's my I
had that here. Good night left.

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Not Yes. And there's there's a
whole load Holy crap. Okay.

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John C. Dvorak: And then can you
see the juice?

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02:28:39,480 --> 02:28:45,210
Adam Curry: Oh my gosh. Juice.
Yeah. Oh, that should do it.

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Unknown: Good night left. Not

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Adam Curry: I gotta do this
again. I'm sorry. This didn't I

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was not tight. There was nothing
tight about it. Oh, I was trying

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02:28:58,980 --> 02:29:03,330
to be slick on it didn't work.
Alright. Here we go. Now now

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we've got the sequence.

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Unknown: Good night left. Not
I'm gonna give you

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the whole loan today. Oh my
gosh. Can you see that juice

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otherness

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Adam Curry: versus satisfying?
To do that.

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John C. Dvorak: Thanks, Anna.
Thanks so much. You get better

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as it goes. Steven as a habit.
Abt invoke Wisconsin. Rhymes

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with Baroque. I think 214 20
Another one. We're on a roll.

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cannulas respect little girl.
Yay, camera for all of the show.

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Never stop. Never stop. Get mo
nation needs y'all call out to

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my super hot wife Ashley. Happy
Valentine's Day, babe. I'll love

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02:29:43,890 --> 02:29:45,810
you forever inserted. That's
true here.

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02:29:45,810 --> 02:29:48,360
Adam Curry: Please don't give me
the state don't read the stage

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02:29:48,360 --> 02:29:52,740
direction. Joe Biden. I got a
queued up.

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02:29:54,480 --> 02:29:56,760
John C. Dvorak: Let me start
over a call out to my super hot

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02:29:56,760 --> 02:30:01,710
wife Ashley. Happy Valentine's
Day babe. I love you forever.

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Please deduce me. This is my
only my second donation. second

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last one being the 45 donation
for Trump's COVID. And I know

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02:30:17,970 --> 02:30:23,460
I've been I've been boning for
at least 10 years. Oh, okay.

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Boehner, Boehner for 10 years.
Boehner years. Wow.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. Alright. ESP
ICT. There you go.

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02:30:34,830 --> 02:30:39,510
John C. Dvorak: We're almost
done. Yes. I have something I

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02:30:39,510 --> 02:30:43,470
wanted to say. Oh, yes. Okay. So
how long has the show been going

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on? It's been two and a half
going on. Two and a half hours.

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Maybe? I've gotten four messages
from Microsoft do reboot my

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02:30:52,650 --> 02:30:56,880
machine. Yeah. And every time
I've clicked on, wait an hour,

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because you won't give me any
other options. No, you're toast.

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So it's it's not letting it's
not waiting an hour.

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02:31:03,630 --> 02:31:05,910
Adam Curry: Now next is going to
be half an hour

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02:31:07,080 --> 02:31:12,990
John C. Dvorak: to table reboot
on. John Carpenter $200

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Greetings from Calabasas. This
is an honor of my lovely smokin

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02:31:17,040 --> 02:31:21,180
hot wife Cathy. Happy
Valentine's Day baby. I love you

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02:31:21,210 --> 02:31:27,390
please deduce us. You've been
deed deuced to us and He wants

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02:31:27,390 --> 02:31:30,960
it hard to D to Carmen and some
boogie boogie, Boogie. Amen. For

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all I heard Adam on Marty Bence
T FTC show Tales from the Crypt

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02:31:36,120 --> 02:31:42,120
baby and got addicted
immediately. You guys rock thank

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02:31:42,120 --> 02:31:44,340
you for your courage and
constant excellence never

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02:31:44,340 --> 02:31:46,170
stopped Bitcoin forever

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Unknown: you've got

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John C. Dvorak: Michael Woodall
to her dogs. ITM I'm a relative

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02:32:05,940 --> 02:32:08,700
newbie. Only listen to a couple
of weeks I've thoroughly enjoyed

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02:32:08,700 --> 02:32:12,480
this show. Thanks for doing all
you do to present the facts. Not

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02:32:12,480 --> 02:32:17,070
an alternative reality like 99%
of them 5am My smokin hot wife.

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02:32:17,340 --> 02:32:22,080
Mercede told me to get whatever
I wanted for my birthday on the

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15th and I wanted to donate to
the greatest podcast in the

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02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:31,200
universal please de douche me
you got great man III do strike

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02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:35,310
in the meantime, I'd like to
call up my brothers Pat and Tim

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02:32:35,310 --> 02:32:37,980
who both hit me in the mouth as
douchebags

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Adam Curry: and Tim

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02:32:44,400 --> 02:32:47,430
John C. Dvorak: for geniessen
Karma plus the jingles take this

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02:32:47,430 --> 02:32:54,090
virus and I Call Bull crap. Roll
Tide. Michael Wood all cases

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02:32:54,090 --> 02:32:54,840
from Alabama

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Unknown: I call bullcrap. You've
got karma.

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02:33:03,060 --> 02:33:05,220
John C. Dvorak: She's nice. I
like when she says it because

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it's so it's clear. Yes. And she
had a mask on. Eric Ross in

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Corona, California is our last
Associate Executive producer is

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comes with $200 End of show.
Request. Abu Bakar Al Baghdadi

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song jingle request, goat karma.
Dear Adam and John. After

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02:33:26,100 --> 02:33:28,530
donating a few weeks ago, I
noticed close to knighthood and

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02:33:28,530 --> 02:33:31,290
after checking my accounting
fine, I was only 12 bucks short.

2504
02:33:31,680 --> 02:33:34,020
So here comes another donation
to go above and beyond the

2505
02:33:34,020 --> 02:33:39,390
threshold for knighting please
dump me sir. Bucha Hi, Dean.

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02:33:39,690 --> 02:33:44,190
Knight of the freedom fighters.
Yeah, we get right into the

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02:33:44,190 --> 02:33:49,320
movie. Jean Am I wrong? Can I
please request igloos and

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02:33:49,320 --> 02:33:51,960
Hawaiian shirts at the
roundtable? Got it. Thank you

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02:33:51,990 --> 02:33:53,460
and bye,

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Adam Curry: bye. Yeah, I got it.
I got it lined up for you. I'm

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going to play the end of show
got a couple of good mixes about

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Jeff Baghdadi, you got it.

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John C. Dvorak: And that will be
our list of very generous list.

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02:34:06,509 --> 02:34:10,769
Yes, a lot of Associate
Executive producers and generous

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02:34:10,769 --> 02:34:16,709
execs, executive producers for
show 1221 And if you think about

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02:34:16,709 --> 02:34:18,959
it were keen 2113 21

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Adam Curry: Back in the day when
I was doing Top 40 Top 40

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02:34:22,470 --> 02:34:27,240
Everybody morning shows you do
like a whole list and take day

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02:34:27,240 --> 02:34:29,520
happened to Valentine's
greetings from bed to dead from

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him to hear from her to him. And
this is so nice. People get to

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02:34:33,240 --> 02:34:36,510
say what they want to say to
their to their the one they

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02:34:36,510 --> 02:34:39,390
love. I'm gonna say loved one
but I'm not gonna do that to the

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one they love. It's nice. I
really like it. I do have an

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extra health karma for Rick
Gressil he emailed yesterday's

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02:34:48,060 --> 02:34:51,060
in the hospital in Huntsville,
Alabama getting tests prior to

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02:34:51,060 --> 02:34:55,800
possible double bypass surgery
on Monday who and he says I just

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02:34:55,800 --> 02:35:00,870
tested positive for COVID I am
asymptomatic Like or John would

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02:35:00,870 --> 02:35:04,170
say probably really don't have
it. I didn't ask how many cycles

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02:35:04,170 --> 02:35:06,960
they ran they're continuing with
the test plus we'll add a test

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02:35:06,960 --> 02:35:11,400
that shows how far along I am
with COVID Question mark have

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02:35:11,400 --> 02:35:14,460
had temperature taken three
times since positive all normal

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02:35:14,460 --> 02:35:18,060
they still haven't said how this
impacts the bypass operation my

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02:35:18,060 --> 02:35:20,310
guess they will run all the
tests then postponed for a

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02:35:20,310 --> 02:35:22,830
couple of weeks, then run all
the tests again for the real

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02:35:22,830 --> 02:35:25,890
surgery. I really can't afford
to donate since I'm currently

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02:35:25,890 --> 02:35:28,710
donating to the new wing of the
hospital and several doctors new

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02:35:28,710 --> 02:35:32,040
Tesla's I'm hoping someone does
a general request for health

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02:35:32,040 --> 02:35:34,590
karma. Yeah, I'm gonna give that
to you ma'am. Good luck on

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02:35:34,590 --> 02:35:34,950
Monday.

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Unknown: You've got karma

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02:35:37,530 --> 02:35:40,200
Adam Curry: and thank you all so
much our executive producers and

2542
02:35:40,200 --> 02:35:45,120
Associate Executive producers
and love birds love birds for

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02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:50,850
episode 1321 And of course I say
Happy Valentine's to my

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02:35:50,850 --> 02:35:54,300
beautiful keeper who I love so
much John, would you like to say

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02:35:54,300 --> 02:35:54,810
anything?

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02:35:56,280 --> 02:35:57,960
John C. Dvorak: Happy
Valentine's Day Mimi.

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02:35:59,340 --> 02:36:03,960
Adam Curry: And have we will be
thanking more people but these

2548
02:36:03,960 --> 02:36:06,840
people get our executive
producer title and credit and

2549
02:36:06,840 --> 02:36:09,000
Associate Executive Producer
title and credit for episode

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02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:13,290
1321 Thank you again if you'd
like to do more for the show to

2551
02:36:13,290 --> 02:36:16,020
be a participant in the
treasurer go ahead and go to our

2552
02:36:16,020 --> 02:36:21,840
website.org/and Thank you all
for your time your talent your

2553
02:36:21,840 --> 02:36:25,560
treasure for the value for value
model of the show our formula is

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02:36:25,560 --> 02:36:29,250
this we go out for people in the
mouth

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02:36:44,700 --> 02:36:46,710
John C. Dvorak: thanks I want to
say Happy Valentine's Day to all

2556
02:36:46,710 --> 02:36:54,510
the female listeners out there
and all the producers do I'm not

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02:36:54,510 --> 02:36:58,290
gonna quit new stores has a
little aside bit yeah. This is

2558
02:36:58,290 --> 02:37:01,950
about the Miramar who into PBS
hi yes

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02:37:04,080 --> 02:37:05,880
Adam Curry: that's the that's
the intro for the White House is

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02:37:05,880 --> 02:37:09,240
warning that foreign sorry.
Miramar Quinta. Here we go.

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Unknown: Me and Mara the general
who's leading the new junta

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02:37:12,390 --> 02:37:13,740
urged the public today.

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02:37:15,360 --> 02:37:19,380
Adam Curry: Did she say junta?
That's as bad as my hikma

2564
02:37:20,010 --> 02:37:20,700
jicama,

2565
02:37:21,180 --> 02:37:23,010
John C. Dvorak: not necessarily
keep playing

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02:37:23,070 --> 02:37:26,070
Unknown: me and mar the general
who's leading the new junta

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02:37:26,100 --> 02:37:30,660
urged the public today to quote
join hands with a military to

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02:37:30,660 --> 02:37:35,580
achieve democracy. Instead 1000s
of protesters confronted police

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02:37:35,760 --> 02:37:38,610
and pro democracy
demonstrations. They were the

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02:37:38,610 --> 02:37:42,210
largest since the military coup
nearly two weeks ago.

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John C. Dvorak: Okay, so I've
got two pronunciations for

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hookah, which has always been
used in the United States as

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02:37:50,130 --> 02:37:53,430
hookah because it's a kind of a
South American thing I remember

2574
02:37:53,430 --> 02:37:56,730
when I was a kid that always
taught about these who does and

2575
02:37:56,730 --> 02:37:59,310
it's gespannt I think it was
derived from a Spanish word but

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02:37:59,310 --> 02:38:03,240
let's play this clip which is
How to Pronounce punto in

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02:38:03,240 --> 02:38:08,610
American Oh, well under
pronounce yes got

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Adam Curry: it. Hunter Okay,
that seems so that is to Amy's

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02:38:14,490 --> 02:38:18,510
off that sets the AMI I mean
that was AMI doesn't isn't doing

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02:38:18,510 --> 02:38:19,320
it right, Hunter.

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02:38:19,349 --> 02:38:20,729
John C. Dvorak: That's not Ami I
know.

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02:38:20,759 --> 02:38:23,879
Adam Curry: This is the official
pronunciation AMI is not doing

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02:38:23,909 --> 02:38:24,539
it right.

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02:38:24,570 --> 02:38:27,960
John C. Dvorak: No, it's not
Ami. That's our PBS woman.

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02:38:28,890 --> 02:38:32,790
Adam Curry: Sound like Amy. Oh,
Nora. Now what's her name? Not

2586
02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:33,450
John C. Dvorak: Nora.

2587
02:38:33,599 --> 02:38:35,159
Adam Curry: Well, then give me
your name. You don't know her

2588
02:38:35,159 --> 02:38:35,849
name either. This

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02:38:35,850 --> 02:38:37,620
John C. Dvorak: is great.
Because now you've said you said

2590
02:38:37,650 --> 02:38:43,140
Amy. You've locked me out her
getting her name. On tanks.

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02:38:44,130 --> 02:38:46,920
Adam Curry: Her name is Tuesday,
the

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02:38:47,820 --> 02:38:51,600
John C. Dvorak: woman who's the
PBS NewsHour. Come on. I've only

2593
02:38:51,600 --> 02:38:55,320
we only had her on the show a
million times. Clips. Okay,

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02:38:55,350 --> 02:38:56,370
Adam Curry: I'm drawing a blank
man.

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02:38:57,000 --> 02:39:02,010
John C. Dvorak: I know. Thanks,
Amy. Okay, let's play pronounce

2596
02:39:02,160 --> 02:39:04,140
punto in you in the UK.

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02:39:04,350 --> 02:39:11,340
Adam Curry: Santa. Oh, Santa. So
that's so got to pronounce Judy.

2598
02:39:11,400 --> 02:39:12,510
It's UD Judy

2599
02:39:12,510 --> 02:39:12,930
John C. Dvorak: Judy. Oh

2600
02:39:12,930 --> 02:39:13,740
Adam Curry: was beauty

2601
02:39:14,460 --> 02:39:19,680
Unknown: UUT that makes it
better be honest. That makes it

2602
02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:20,130
better.

2603
02:39:20,700 --> 02:39:24,750
John C. Dvorak: So UD has
decided that she's British. Yes.

2604
02:39:25,560 --> 02:39:29,790
Adam Curry: junta. How are the
junta doing the junta are in

2605
02:39:29,790 --> 02:39:30,840
beta right now.

2606
02:39:33,570 --> 02:39:36,270
John C. Dvorak: I find it
offensive that we have American

2607
02:39:36,270 --> 02:39:41,430
commentators using British
pronunciation just find it like

2608
02:39:41,550 --> 02:39:45,870
oh he went to university that is
a British ism yes it is Canadian

2609
02:39:45,870 --> 02:39:49,080
say that too. But Americans
don't say that. You say he went

2610
02:39:49,140 --> 02:39:52,500
to the university right? Okay.
And well that just wanted to get

2611
02:39:52,500 --> 02:39:52,920
that out. I

2612
02:39:53,400 --> 02:39:55,380
Adam Curry: know I like it and I
think it's important that we

2613
02:39:55,380 --> 02:39:58,020
from we'll never forget her
name. Now. We will always

2614
02:39:58,020 --> 02:40:03,360
remember UD it is UD from PBS
cuz she pronounces it Giunta

2615
02:40:03,390 --> 02:40:07,650
then we're calling you, UT UT is
at the uni

2616
02:40:10,139 --> 02:40:14,849
John C. Dvorak: UT. Alright,
where do we go from here? Do you

2617
02:40:14,849 --> 02:40:16,829
want to talk about Ziff Zinn's
in?

2618
02:40:17,010 --> 02:40:19,230
Adam Curry: Well, first, I'd
like to talk about China real

2619
02:40:19,230 --> 02:40:26,010
quick. Okay, because I have a
tick tock Fetta Anala update.

2620
02:40:27,900 --> 02:40:31,560
This is hack feta. Yes. This is
the viral recipe for the block

2621
02:40:31,560 --> 02:40:32,580
of feta cheese.

2622
02:40:32,610 --> 02:40:34,770
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yes. You're
talking about this cheese dish

2623
02:40:34,770 --> 02:40:36,570
that you actually made? Yes.

2624
02:40:36,600 --> 02:40:39,450
Adam Curry: And it's extremely
tasty. You can't make it all the

2625
02:40:39,450 --> 02:40:43,050
time, though. So I've had
producers all over the world

2626
02:40:43,050 --> 02:40:47,820
looking at this. Sir wonder helm
in Finland went searching. And

2627
02:40:47,910 --> 02:40:51,000
this thing started two years
ago. And this woman is a food

2628
02:40:51,000 --> 02:40:56,970
blogger who started this to but
and yes, there's been some

2629
02:40:56,970 --> 02:41:00,570
issues with supply in Finland.
But this they kind of came back

2630
02:41:00,600 --> 02:41:05,490
roaring back after two years
very oddly, one of our producers

2631
02:41:05,490 --> 02:41:09,330
Ryan did an analysis. He's a
marketing a marketing person.

2632
02:41:09,870 --> 02:41:13,080
And he says what is likely
happening with some of the

2633
02:41:13,080 --> 02:41:17,160
virality is funny. I said, Hey,
isn't this just the Chinese

2634
02:41:17,160 --> 02:41:20,130
algorithm of TiC tock just
pushing this up for some reason?

2635
02:41:20,730 --> 02:41:26,670
Here's what does come into play.
The tic tock algorithm works

2636
02:41:26,670 --> 02:41:30,990
really on hashtags, this is what
I'm learning now. So the minute

2637
02:41:30,990 --> 02:41:35,790
something goes to the top of the
trending list, all everyone will

2638
02:41:35,790 --> 02:41:39,360
try and use that hashtag, which
in this case was hashtag feta

2639
02:41:39,360 --> 02:41:42,300
pasta to do other things. So
that means all of a sudden,

2640
02:41:42,300 --> 02:41:45,420
there's a guy with a snake
showing up at the top of Tik Tok

2641
02:41:45,450 --> 02:41:48,480
because the bull is but

2642
02:41:49,050 --> 02:41:51,630
John C. Dvorak: this is
Craigslist posters. But

2643
02:41:52,260 --> 02:41:56,670
Adam Curry: But I did find
something which is interesting

2644
02:41:57,420 --> 02:42:04,800
how China has just finalized an
agreement with the EU over feta

2645
02:42:04,800 --> 02:42:10,050
cheese, which is an agreement on
the so called G I. The

2646
02:42:10,050 --> 02:42:14,550
geographical indications, which
is the same legislation is what

2647
02:42:14,550 --> 02:42:18,750
most of the EU is doing is
making sure that you can't call

2648
02:42:18,750 --> 02:42:23,370
your drink cognac, if it's not
from cognac that you can't call

2649
02:42:23,370 --> 02:42:27,480
your sprouts brussels sprouts if
they're not from Brussels. And

2650
02:42:27,480 --> 02:42:31,830
champagne Kiante these things.
So China has now agreed they

2651
02:42:31,830 --> 02:42:36,120
will protect feta cheese, which
there's only where the feta

2652
02:42:36,120 --> 02:42:39,600
cheese can only come from what
Bulgaria I would know it's a

2653
02:42:39,600 --> 02:42:42,840
Greek it's Greek product, so
they're going to protect that. I

2654
02:42:42,840 --> 02:42:46,500
was just thinking, maybe they
were just messing around by

2655
02:42:46,650 --> 02:42:49,680
because none of the stuff that
you saw in these tic tock videos

2656
02:42:49,680 --> 02:42:50,760
was official Fetta.

2657
02:42:51,420 --> 02:42:55,170
John C. Dvorak: Okay, can I ask
a question? Yeah. So all of this

2658
02:42:55,170 --> 02:42:59,280
had to do with the Detroit
protecting that fair, that

2659
02:42:59,280 --> 02:43:02,190
trademark, if you want to call
it that, but I'm just saying I

2660
02:43:02,190 --> 02:43:06,540
have no idea. Well, I'm saying
and that would be protected in

2661
02:43:06,540 --> 02:43:11,610
China, a country notorious for
not making cheese or eating

2662
02:43:11,610 --> 02:43:15,210
cheese, or having any experience
with cheese in their entire

2663
02:43:15,210 --> 02:43:19,590
history. And in fact, most
Chinese hate cheese, dad, great.

2664
02:43:19,590 --> 02:43:22,050
I'm glad we got that done.
Because you know, these Chinese

2665
02:43:22,050 --> 02:43:23,940
are going to take advantage of
this feta thing?

2666
02:43:24,660 --> 02:43:28,260
Adam Curry: I don't know. I'm
not clay with just saying it was

2667
02:43:28,290 --> 02:43:34,080
an interesting coincidence. That
is Chinese algorithms,

2668
02:43:34,080 --> 02:43:35,160
intellectual property

2669
02:43:35,160 --> 02:43:36,330
John C. Dvorak: issues with
China. We

2670
02:43:37,260 --> 02:43:39,390
Adam Curry: Yeah, no kidding.
Yeah,

2671
02:43:39,420 --> 02:43:43,350
John C. Dvorak: no kidding is
the right word. No kidding. The

2672
02:43:43,350 --> 02:43:46,440
fact that they've gone along
with the program with Windows

2673
02:43:46,440 --> 02:43:49,080
and some of these other things
for as long as they have is kind

2674
02:43:49,080 --> 02:43:52,200
of surprising me. Right? You're
waiting for that other shoe to

2675
02:43:52,200 --> 02:43:52,680
drop?

2676
02:43:52,710 --> 02:43:58,320
Adam Curry: Yeah. Whatever you
think that China is just wants

2677
02:43:58,320 --> 02:44:03,570
to be very, very, very, very,
very clear. Despite what you saw

2678
02:44:03,570 --> 02:44:06,270
on the leaked PowerPoint
presentation, China is not

2679
02:44:06,270 --> 02:44:14,850
building a time machine. That's
the big news. Is all the science

2680
02:44:14,850 --> 02:44:20,310
nerds are going crazy over this.
This PowerPoint that shows the

2681
02:44:20,310 --> 02:44:21,900
John C. Dvorak: time and Shaq
ran on this.

2682
02:44:23,970 --> 02:44:28,590
Adam Curry: China's largest
state physics lab. Somehow a

2683
02:44:28,620 --> 02:44:32,490
PowerPoint leaked out that
there's and the question is the

2684
02:44:32,490 --> 02:44:36,450
Chinese government collaborating
with this? With some startup

2685
02:44:36,450 --> 02:44:38,850
that's mentioned this. I don't
know exactly who that is to

2686
02:44:38,850 --> 02:44:43,230
build to build a time machine.
The thing is, there's all kinds

2687
02:44:43,230 --> 02:44:46,050
of time related stuff in this
PowerPoint, which I don't really

2688
02:44:46,050 --> 02:44:51,990
understand. 200 million or see
the text. It's like, they have

2689
02:44:51,990 --> 02:44:55,350
all kinds of weird concepts and
he has all translated from

2690
02:44:55,350 --> 02:44:58,560
Chinese. I just thought it was
cute that Time Magazine is now

2691
02:44:58,560 --> 02:45:02,400
making sure you know this
Because this apparently so much

2692
02:45:02,430 --> 02:45:06,630
confusion that they're going to
be doing time travel, I would

2693
02:45:06,630 --> 02:45:10,740
say they probably are probably
lying to us.

2694
02:45:11,130 --> 02:45:15,480
John C. Dvorak: I know I've been
doing it. The I got a, I got a

2695
02:45:15,480 --> 02:45:19,920
system in my bedroom, I will go
in there, there's a big comfy

2696
02:45:19,920 --> 02:45:22,920
looking thing, you can lay down
on it, and then you'll get

2697
02:45:22,920 --> 02:45:25,110
forwarded in time by eight
hours.

2698
02:45:27,150 --> 02:45:29,700
Adam Curry: We've been talking a
lot about Bill Gates. And in

2699
02:45:29,700 --> 02:45:32,940
fact, you just mentioned just
mentioned something about

2700
02:45:32,940 --> 02:45:36,270
Windows. Yeah. And what about
intellectual property?

2701
02:45:36,300 --> 02:45:38,010
John C. Dvorak: China's
intellectual property in check,

2702
02:45:38,130 --> 02:45:40,650
you have to remember I was given
this lecture when I first time

2703
02:45:40,650 --> 02:45:44,340
first time and only time I've
ever been to Russia. But one of

2704
02:45:44,340 --> 02:45:47,520
the guys there he says, you
know, you have to understand

2705
02:45:47,520 --> 02:45:52,320
that socialist countries believe
that all intellectual property

2706
02:45:52,350 --> 02:45:56,790
belongs to the people. Yes,
that's right. And don't end the

2707
02:45:56,790 --> 02:46:01,260
Chinese are all into that. And
don't think otherwise.

2708
02:46:01,410 --> 02:46:05,700
Adam Curry: Tell me this is or
is not a native ad.

2709
02:46:06,030 --> 02:46:08,220
Unknown: The FBI has issued a
new alert stemming from the

2710
02:46:08,220 --> 02:46:10,740
cyber attack on a water
treatment plant near Tampa,

2711
02:46:10,740 --> 02:46:14,100
Florida last week the FBI is
calling on local governments and

2712
02:46:14,100 --> 02:46:17,970
companies to stop using
Microsoft Windows seven because

2713
02:46:17,970 --> 02:46:21,210
it could be compromised seeing a
lack of security updates makes

2714
02:46:21,210 --> 02:46:24,600
windows seven and easy target
hackers trying to remotely

2715
02:46:24,600 --> 02:46:27,720
increase the level of a
dangerous chemical and the water

2716
02:46:30,120 --> 02:46:33,420
John C. Dvorak: wow, I mean, I
knew the story but

2717
02:46:33,750 --> 02:46:36,720
Adam Curry: what and what outfit
is still using Windows seven I

2718
02:46:36,720 --> 02:46:40,050
mean you can't be operating a
water plant with with outdated

2719
02:46:40,110 --> 02:46:41,820
unsupported software can you

2720
02:46:41,850 --> 02:46:43,410
John C. Dvorak: know they
stopped supporting Windows seven

2721
02:46:43,410 --> 02:46:44,280
what two years ago a

2722
02:46:44,310 --> 02:46:45,390
Adam Curry: while ago? Yeah.

2723
02:46:45,990 --> 02:46:49,110
John C. Dvorak: I think it's a
native ad from Microsoft. Yeah.

2724
02:46:49,770 --> 02:46:55,230
To get him to upgrade Yeah. I
thought that was a dual Nate

2725
02:46:55,230 --> 02:46:59,310
Okay, here. I think it was it
was I don't think it was a

2726
02:46:59,310 --> 02:47:02,790
native ad I think a native ad is
something you pay to have pay to

2727
02:47:02,790 --> 02:47:06,990
play right. I think this was was
the new story that Microsoft

2728
02:47:06,990 --> 02:47:07,530
planet

2729
02:47:08,400 --> 02:47:10,590
Adam Curry: Oh, that's good.
Yeah, that would be even you

2730
02:47:10,590 --> 02:47:13,230
right? That's probably how they
would roll No, you're right on

2731
02:47:13,230 --> 02:47:14,340
my thinking because a native

2732
02:47:14,340 --> 02:47:16,140
John C. Dvorak: ad the funny
thing and dessert was earmarks

2733
02:47:16,140 --> 02:47:20,400
of native ads one day or a bit
much and two they're always like

2734
02:47:20,400 --> 02:47:25,470
30 seconds 60 seconds two
minutes they have a they have a

2735
02:47:25,470 --> 02:47:28,140
time cut off almost as though
because it's an ad they somebody

2736
02:47:28,140 --> 02:47:32,700
paid for Yeah. And that was like
a very short piece so no, I

2737
02:47:32,700 --> 02:47:34,950
don't think so. Good work
though.

2738
02:47:34,980 --> 02:47:37,380
Adam Curry: Yeah, you should not
be using Windows seven people

2739
02:47:39,090 --> 02:47:41,490
John C. Dvorak: that I know of a
couple windows seven machines

2740
02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:47,610
Adam Curry: playing financial
What if there's a so much the

2741
02:47:47,640 --> 02:47:49,950
kind of like this big reset
stories are popping up

2742
02:47:49,950 --> 02:47:52,380
everywhere? China's Belt and
Road? Just you know, it's going

2743
02:47:52,380 --> 02:47:56,370
to be a silk road with green
energy? Oh, yeah. Sure. It

2744
02:47:56,370 --> 02:47:58,980
John C. Dvorak: is Chinese
authorities. And he boldly I've

2745
02:47:58,980 --> 02:48:03,900
got a I've got this is a story
from PBS about the O T F Fund.

2746
02:48:04,650 --> 02:48:10,980
Is this UT? Yes, it's UT. UT is
on here reporting about the OTF.

2747
02:48:11,160 --> 02:48:13,770
And then she kicks it to
somebody I want and I kind of

2748
02:48:13,770 --> 02:48:17,580
reemphasized kind of this is a
story about this fund, which

2749
02:48:17,730 --> 02:48:21,540
sounds like a CIA operation that
had something like $24 million

2750
02:48:21,780 --> 02:48:25,110
budget. And Trump's boys. You
know, they said this is just

2751
02:48:25,110 --> 02:48:30,420
throwing money away. And they're
the ones who develop signal. Who

2752
02:48:30,570 --> 02:48:33,090
they shouldn't be licensing to
people it seems to me who

2753
02:48:33,090 --> 02:48:33,810
developed signal

2754
02:48:33,810 --> 02:48:37,830
Adam Curry: this OTF fund BS. I
don't know anything about him.

2755
02:48:37,830 --> 02:48:38,430
OTF.

2756
02:48:38,789 --> 02:48:41,099
John C. Dvorak: You didn't
either. Enjoy her just reports.

2757
02:48:41,099 --> 02:48:43,049
Let's start with OTF fund one.

2758
02:48:43,140 --> 02:48:46,710
Unknown: Today a small US
government funded organization.

2759
02:48:46,710 --> 02:48:50,880
The Open Technology Fund
received money that was frozen

2760
02:48:50,880 --> 02:48:55,860
last year, referred to as OTF.
It advocates for internet

2761
02:48:55,860 --> 02:48:59,340
freedom. That kind of freedom
that was cut off last week by

2762
02:48:59,340 --> 02:49:02,910
the Myanmar military and
restricted by governments

2763
02:49:02,910 --> 02:49:08,430
including China, which banned
the BBC yesterday and Iran. Nick

2764
02:49:08,430 --> 02:49:12,450
Schifrin reports on how the
battle over ot F's funding was a

2765
02:49:12,450 --> 02:49:16,290
symbol of troop administration
turmoil, and how this small

2766
02:49:16,290 --> 02:49:18,360
group wages a global war

2767
02:49:18,420 --> 02:49:22,590
in the 21st century war between
activists and authoritarians.

2768
02:49:23,070 --> 02:49:27,330
protesters tried to avoid
beatings, torture, and even

2769
02:49:27,330 --> 02:49:31,920
death with the digital shields
of Dimitri Vitale. Vitaly is

2770
02:49:31,920 --> 02:49:34,620
working mission protect Bella
roussy and activists from

2771
02:49:34,620 --> 02:49:37,980
government surveillance and help
them defeat Internet censorship.

2772
02:49:38,310 --> 02:49:42,480
Vitaly is activism was born from
his father's bravery. Vitaly

2773
02:49:42,480 --> 02:49:45,690
Vitalia was a journalist forced
to defect from Russia after he

2774
02:49:45,690 --> 02:49:50,100
criticized the government. He
left in 1989 the year the Berlin

2775
02:49:50,100 --> 02:49:53,760
Wall fell Eastern Europe course
with a fever for freedom

2776
02:49:53,940 --> 02:49:57,540
encouraged for decades by the US
Federal broadcaster Voice of

2777
02:49:57,540 --> 02:49:58,110
America,

2778
02:49:58,260 --> 02:50:01,740
the courier ship without guns
She goes into battle armed with

2779
02:50:01,740 --> 02:50:02,610
a greatest weapon of.

2780
02:50:04,950 --> 02:50:09,360
VOA promoted American ideals by
presenting objective news

2781
02:50:09,390 --> 02:50:12,870
citizens around the world are
being tortured, imprisoned and

2782
02:50:12,870 --> 02:50:15,030
even killed for their online
speech.

2783
02:50:15,540 --> 02:50:19,320
Today VOA is digital descendent
is the open technology fund that

2784
02:50:19,320 --> 02:50:22,440
promotes American ideals by
maintaining internet freedom.

2785
02:50:22,680 --> 02:50:26,550
Its budget only 20 million its
budget only 20 million IT staff

2786
02:50:26,550 --> 02:50:31,740
only 1111 but OTS technology
that became signal and signals

2787
02:50:31,740 --> 02:50:35,700
technology now powers Facebook
Messenger, Skype and WhatsApp

2788
02:50:35,790 --> 02:50:40,830
for more than 2 billion people.
OTF technology is on two thirds

2789
02:50:40,860 --> 02:50:44,040
of the world's phones. Fo TF
also funds Italia.

2790
02:50:44,970 --> 02:50:49,770
Adam Curry: Wow. I think I think
the story may be confusing some

2791
02:50:49,770 --> 02:50:54,930
things, but okay, I have
thoughts, but I would like to

2792
02:50:54,930 --> 02:50:55,890
hear the presentation.

2793
02:50:56,400 --> 02:50:58,230
John C. Dvorak: Well, I want to
hear your thoughts first.

2794
02:50:58,380 --> 02:51:00,240
Adam Curry: Oh, this is internet
in a suitcase.

2795
02:51:01,800 --> 02:51:05,490
John C. Dvorak: I might be I
think I think it might because

2796
02:51:05,580 --> 02:51:09,450
they do discuss that in the
upcoming clips. But they have a

2797
02:51:09,450 --> 02:51:10,890
budget of 20 million,

2798
02:51:11,009 --> 02:51:12,149
Adam Curry: which is not much

2799
02:51:13,590 --> 02:51:19,080
John C. Dvorak: for 11 people.
Yeah, I worked for a company at

2800
02:51:19,080 --> 02:51:21,690
20 million bucks and 11 people
No, it's not much. You gotta

2801
02:51:21,690 --> 02:51:23,520
Adam Curry: let me also you
gotta you gotta you have

2802
02:51:23,520 --> 02:51:33,180
1,000,005 payroll, each test
just for you. And now when we're

2803
02:51:33,180 --> 02:51:33,900
running the show,

2804
02:51:34,920 --> 02:51:38,040
John C. Dvorak: and then they
have they develop signal, which

2805
02:51:38,040 --> 02:51:40,710
they didn't know give that away,
do they? I thought it was a

2806
02:51:40,710 --> 02:51:41,580
licensing deal.

2807
02:51:42,030 --> 02:51:44,400
Adam Curry: I don't that's the
part I don't understand. I'm not

2808
02:51:44,850 --> 02:51:52,410
well versed. But the signal the
WhatsApp founder left in disgust

2809
02:51:52,410 --> 02:51:55,560
and that Moxie. And then he
created signals. So for them to

2810
02:51:55,560 --> 02:51:59,640
say it's the same technology I
think is bogus ative I don't

2811
02:51:59,640 --> 02:52:03,030
know think it is but yeah, I
could be wrong. This is this is

2812
02:52:03,060 --> 02:52:06,330
this has got to be a CIA link
you tell type deal. Sure.

2813
02:52:07,289 --> 02:52:10,019
John C. Dvorak: And they're you
know, 11 people 20 million.

2814
02:52:10,019 --> 02:52:12,719
Okay, I can live with that. How
about this, but the way they say

2815
02:52:12,719 --> 02:52:16,979
it, it's like only 11 mil only
20 million oh my god, only 20

2816
02:52:16,979 --> 02:52:19,589
million. And then later in the
report, you'll see kind of the

2817
02:52:19,589 --> 02:52:23,639
contrary, look at a lower number
all they got all this money and

2818
02:52:23,639 --> 02:52:26,729
there's no money. So let's play
the second clip. But then

2819
02:52:26,760 --> 02:52:28,290
Unknown: arrived, Michael power

2820
02:52:28,470 --> 02:52:30,900
that I want to clear out the
problem the problems in the

2821
02:52:30,900 --> 02:52:33,720
agency both the mismanagement,
and the bias.

2822
02:52:34,020 --> 02:52:37,410
Last year, Pac became CEO of the
US Agency for global media,

2823
02:52:37,410 --> 02:52:40,830
which oversees federal
broadcasters, including VOA and

2824
02:52:40,830 --> 02:52:44,910
funds agencies, including OTF.
He targeted the very government

2825
02:52:44,910 --> 02:52:47,850
employees he led pushed on by
President Trump.

2826
02:52:47,910 --> 02:52:50,970
If you heard what's coming out
of the Voice of America, it's

2827
02:52:50,970 --> 02:52:51,900
disgusting.

2828
02:52:52,500 --> 02:52:56,280
Pac fired senior aides, editors
and entire boards of trustees.

2829
02:52:56,430 --> 02:52:58,920
He kicked foreign journalists
out of the country, an

2830
02:52:58,920 --> 02:53:01,440
investigative journalist for
being critical of President

2831
02:53:01,440 --> 02:53:05,250
Trump. He withheld OTS
congressionally mandated budget,

2832
02:53:05,460 --> 02:53:08,400
leaving his own soldiers on the
battlefield temporarily

2833
02:53:08,400 --> 02:53:09,360
defenseless.

2834
02:53:09,480 --> 02:53:14,550
It's truly not clear to me what
his motivations are or who these

2835
02:53:14,550 --> 02:53:18,570
actions benefit other than
authoritarian regimes and

2836
02:53:18,600 --> 02:53:21,930
enemies of internet freedom and
freedom of expression around the

2837
02:53:21,930 --> 02:53:22,380
world.

2838
02:53:22,650 --> 02:53:26,460
Laura Cunningham is the CEO of
the Open Technology Fund, Pac

2839
02:53:26,460 --> 02:53:29,880
tried to fire her and the entire
OTF board, and then tried to

2840
02:53:29,880 --> 02:53:33,060
effectively destroy TF by
borrowing it from federal

2841
02:53:33,060 --> 02:53:33,570
funding,

2842
02:53:33,990 --> 02:53:38,580
removing support for OTF and
removing support for those

2843
02:53:38,580 --> 02:53:42,690
technologies. We're putting
people who have risked their

2844
02:53:42,690 --> 02:53:47,370
lives at even greater risk of
being attacked and silenced by

2845
02:53:47,370 --> 02:53:48,930
authoritarian regimes.

2846
02:53:48,960 --> 02:53:50,940
But people like NEMA Fuck,

2847
02:53:51,450 --> 02:53:57,780
I have had to distance myself on
my family quite a bit to

2848
02:53:57,780 --> 02:53:58,860
increase their safety.

2849
02:53:59,190 --> 02:54:02,640
fought to me is an Iranian born
activist. The Iranian government

2850
02:54:02,640 --> 02:54:05,610
considers his work such a
threat. It's not safe for him to

2851
02:54:05,610 --> 02:54:09,060
tell his family back in Iran.
What he does, his software can

2852
02:54:09,060 --> 02:54:13,980
do is OTF funded and protects
Iranian demonstrators. You

2853
02:54:13,980 --> 02:54:16,320
watched during the 2009 Green
Revolution.

2854
02:54:16,859 --> 02:54:22,109
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah,
there's your connection. But as

2855
02:54:22,109 --> 02:54:26,819
if OTF being there or not being
there is disguised are already

2856
02:54:26,819 --> 02:54:28,649
on the list. I mean, what
difference does it make but

2857
02:54:28,649 --> 02:54:32,729
okay, so this this is a very
shady operation,

2858
02:54:32,760 --> 02:54:36,480
Adam Curry: Bruce Schneier. Hey,
Bruce Schneier is on the

2859
02:54:36,480 --> 02:54:37,590
Advisory Council.

2860
02:54:39,750 --> 02:54:41,250
John C. Dvorak: And that name, I
should know, but yeah, he's

2861
02:54:41,250 --> 02:54:43,110
Adam Curry: the he's the
security guy, Bruce Schneier.

2862
02:54:43,110 --> 02:54:45,300
He's very famous. Oh, that guy?
Oh, yes.

2863
02:54:45,300 --> 02:54:46,020
John C. Dvorak: Yes, yes.

2864
02:54:46,200 --> 02:54:51,210
Adam Curry: Good to say. Chad
Hurley. YouTube.

2865
02:54:52,860 --> 02:54:53,970
John C. Dvorak: Oh, that's into

2866
02:54:53,970 --> 02:54:57,180
Adam Curry: Cory Doctorow. Let's
I just want to make sure we know

2867
02:54:57,180 --> 02:54:59,970
who we're telling. The people
are bogus.

2868
02:55:03,990 --> 02:55:07,920
John C. Dvorak: Mr. Copyright
All right, let's so the end of

2869
02:55:07,920 --> 02:55:11,700
it. They give a little
interesting gratuitous slam.

2870
02:55:12,150 --> 02:55:13,740
Well, you'll hear a Play Part
Three

2871
02:55:13,830 --> 02:55:18,480
Unknown: McKinsey advise Purdue
how to avoid FDA and pharmacy

2872
02:55:18,480 --> 02:55:21,390
restrictions they've laid. Why
Purdue

2873
02:55:21,570 --> 02:55:23,160
Adam Curry: pharmacy
restrictions.

2874
02:55:23,250 --> 02:55:24,210
John C. Dvorak: You're on the
wrong one.

2875
02:55:25,110 --> 02:55:29,250
Adam Curry: That's interesting.
It's Yes, I'm sorry. It's the

2876
02:55:29,250 --> 02:55:33,600
opioid clip that look just the
same. Today a small youth to

2877
02:55:33,600 --> 02:55:36,360
him. It's no yes, I know. I
know. I'm sorry. It's all out of

2878
02:55:36,360 --> 02:55:36,720
order

2879
02:55:36,780 --> 02:55:39,600
Unknown: and last year's
protests as Iran shut down the

2880
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:42,300
internet and persecuted
protesters for their digital

2881
02:55:42,300 --> 02:55:46,440
communications. In 2012, blogger
Satara Shetty criticized the

2882
02:55:46,440 --> 02:55:50,760
regime. The Cyber Police unit
arrested him he died in custody.

2883
02:55:51,300 --> 02:55:54,840
I think like secure
communication is is the step

2884
02:55:54,840 --> 02:55:59,040
zero of any change in the in any
society.

2885
02:55:59,340 --> 02:56:02,700
But he too was cut off when pack
froze Oh TFS funding,

2886
02:56:03,119 --> 02:56:08,219
America must reassert itself. In
the new global war of ideas

2887
02:56:08,250 --> 02:56:12,090
pack argues OTF was mismanaged
and revitalized an alternate

2888
02:56:12,090 --> 02:56:15,240
internet freedom organizations.
But his real motivation,

2889
02:56:15,240 --> 02:56:18,570
according to a dozen interviews
conducted by PBS NewsHour, might

2890
02:56:18,570 --> 02:56:24,660
be this group. The Falun Gong
opposes the Chinese Communist

2891
02:56:24,660 --> 02:56:29,700
Party. To circumvent Beijing's
Great Firewall, it funded

2892
02:56:29,700 --> 02:56:33,240
technology called Ultrasurf. It
was backed by an unusual

2893
02:56:33,240 --> 02:56:37,740
consortium of Pac and Trump
allies. OTs predecessor declined

2894
02:56:37,740 --> 02:56:41,520
to provide funding and Ultrasurf
refused to submit to OTF

2895
02:56:41,520 --> 02:56:44,970
vetting. But in November Pak
signed a contract to fund Ultra

2896
02:56:44,970 --> 02:56:47,940
serve with up to $2 million
dollars $2 million.

2897
02:56:48,780 --> 02:56:51,240
In this episode, we sit down
with Michael Pax

2898
02:56:51,270 --> 02:56:53,970
and just a few days later gave
an on camera interview to the

2899
02:56:53,970 --> 02:56:56,370
Falun Gong backed epic times.

2900
02:56:56,760 --> 02:56:59,370
Michael packs such a pleasure to
have you on American thought

2901
02:56:59,370 --> 02:56:59,970
leaders.

2902
02:57:00,000 --> 02:57:01,860
Thank you for having me on. But
Pax

2903
02:57:01,860 --> 02:57:05,820
era us AGM is ending
ignominiously. Last month in the

2904
02:57:05,820 --> 02:57:08,460
space of three weeks,
whistleblowers accused pack of

2905
02:57:08,460 --> 02:57:11,850
propaganda, DCS Attorney General
accused him of illegally

2906
02:57:11,850 --> 02:57:14,820
funneling money. And then he
resigned under pressure from the

2907
02:57:14,820 --> 02:57:16,110
Biden transition team.

2908
02:57:16,890 --> 02:57:21,840
Adam Curry: Ha. Well, that's
really happening. So Ultrasurf

2909
02:57:21,870 --> 02:57:25,860
is a VPN service that has been
running for a while mainly in

2910
02:57:25,860 --> 02:57:30,030
regards to Iran and China. And
they run servers so if the Trump

2911
02:57:30,030 --> 02:57:33,720
administration wanted Ultrasurf
what a great way to sniff out

2912
02:57:33,720 --> 02:57:41,400
everything everyone's doing. By
providing VPN. Yeah. The OTF

2913
02:57:42,120 --> 02:57:44,910
that's super interesting.
There's a lot of names here I

2914
02:57:44,910 --> 02:57:49,530
recognize some Dutch people as
well who I think may be regarded

2915
02:57:49,530 --> 02:57:52,020
quite highly I'm gonna have
Ancilla take a look at the she

2916
02:57:52,020 --> 02:57:56,280
knows all these people. It
reminded me of the internet and

2917
02:57:56,280 --> 02:58:01,200
a suitcase I dug up one of our
clips from oh my goodness, what

2918
02:58:01,200 --> 02:58:05,040
is this from? This has got to be
old. This has got to be old

2919
02:58:05,040 --> 02:58:07,200
because it's a Hillary days.
Yes. 2011

2920
02:58:07,230 --> 02:58:11,160
Unknown: Part of what Secretary
Clinton calls a venture

2921
02:58:11,160 --> 02:58:14,640
capitalists approach to
addressing the wide range of

2922
02:58:14,640 --> 02:58:18,450
challenges to democracy, and
sound familiar human rights

2923
02:58:18,450 --> 02:58:22,410
activists face in internet
repressive environments around

2924
02:58:22,410 --> 02:58:23,970
the world. centralized servers,

2925
02:58:23,970 --> 02:58:26,880
like this one can easily be cut
by governments. But the internet

2926
02:58:26,880 --> 02:58:29,700
in a suitcase is designed to
give dissidents a mobile web

2927
02:58:29,790 --> 02:58:32,520
with mesh technology that runs
through cell phones and other

2928
02:58:32,520 --> 02:58:36,270
devices making it harder to cut.
The founder of his own

2929
02:58:36,270 --> 02:58:39,570
clearinghouse of confidential
documents, John Yun worries that

2930
02:58:39,570 --> 02:58:42,600
American suitcase servers will
serve another purpose.

2931
02:58:42,630 --> 02:58:46,560
The suitcase is meant to give
the illusion that you can run

2932
02:58:47,010 --> 02:58:50,610
these electronic devices without
going through national systems.

2933
02:58:51,330 --> 02:58:53,850
And that may be true but they
will they will not be outside

2934
02:58:53,850 --> 02:58:54,720
the US system.

2935
02:58:54,750 --> 02:58:57,870
Yang says the suitcase is just
part of so called liberation

2936
02:58:57,870 --> 02:59:00,930
technology that has advantages
for the US

2937
02:59:00,990 --> 02:59:03,540
the price that you get for being
empowered is that the United

2938
02:59:03,540 --> 02:59:06,150
States gets to watch what you're
doing and probably yes, what

2939
02:59:06,150 --> 02:59:06,600
you're doing.

2940
02:59:06,870 --> 02:59:09,360
And it isn't just governments
according to the hackers

2941
02:59:09,360 --> 02:59:12,420
collective anonymous, which
released 70,000 classified

2942
02:59:12,420 --> 02:59:16,260
emails from defense contractor
HBGary Federal about the Roma's

2943
02:59:16,260 --> 02:59:17,190
coin program.

2944
02:59:17,400 --> 02:59:19,350
Adam Curry: I mean, it's another
two minutes I know if we had to

2945
02:59:19,350 --> 02:59:22,080
listen to it all but it's I
think we know what it is sounds

2946
02:59:22,080 --> 02:59:27,450
like the internet in a suitcase
I'm just missing USA ID in this

2947
02:59:27,450 --> 02:59:36,660
story and they're not a part of
that yet. It's odd Well,

2948
02:59:37,500 --> 02:59:38,940
John C. Dvorak: it's something
to keep an eye on but it sounds

2949
02:59:38,940 --> 02:59:41,670
like an intelligence operation
to me in every way shape and

2950
02:59:41,670 --> 02:59:44,700
form. Yeah, yeah. And they just
would this another 20 million

2951
02:59:44,700 --> 02:59:46,800
bucks they can you know, they've
got they gotta get their money

2952
02:59:46,800 --> 02:59:49,890
where they can't because they're
gonna get very soon kicked out

2953
02:59:49,890 --> 02:59:52,770
of Afghanistan, even though
Biden probably won't be the one

2954
02:59:52,770 --> 02:59:53,640
to do it. And you've

2955
02:59:53,640 --> 02:59:56,760
Adam Curry: got to wonder I
mean, it's it's, it's almost

2956
02:59:56,760 --> 03:00:01,260
insulting I mean, people in
Myanmar. They've got I've got

2957
03:00:01,290 --> 03:00:04,050
internet there's hackers there
those guys who know stuff they

2958
03:00:04,050 --> 03:00:06,330
can set up mesh networks. I
mean, doesn't we don't always

2959
03:00:06,330 --> 03:00:09,810
need to come in there unless
we're doing something there.

2960
03:00:11,520 --> 03:00:15,210
Because it sounds a lot like a
color revolution to me. When you

2961
03:00:15,210 --> 03:00:17,250
caught off that is not just the
internet, they caught off

2962
03:00:17,250 --> 03:00:20,400
television radio, the military
says it's how the revolutions

2963
03:00:20,400 --> 03:00:23,400
work now, I think they're going
to put Hillary's girl right back

2964
03:00:23,400 --> 03:00:25,200
in place. They're going to
install her make sure

2965
03:00:25,200 --> 03:00:25,950
everything's cool.

2966
03:00:28,140 --> 03:00:29,730
John C. Dvorak: That would be
Nudelman.

2967
03:00:30,060 --> 03:00:33,450
Adam Curry: No, no, no, the SU
Yi Sun sin Psalm sings and

2968
03:00:33,450 --> 03:00:34,740
altar. Yes,

2969
03:00:34,770 --> 03:00:36,930
John C. Dvorak: yeah, I think
there's something weird about

2970
03:00:36,930 --> 03:00:38,790
that country, something's off.
And

2971
03:00:39,870 --> 03:00:44,760
Adam Curry: where is the shaming
of Zuckerberg because we know

2972
03:00:44,760 --> 03:00:48,840
that it was clearly Facebook
that that got people murdered in

2973
03:00:48,840 --> 03:00:55,530
Myanmar. And that everyone was
saying Facebook was responsible

2974
03:00:55,530 --> 03:00:56,160
for this.

2975
03:00:57,420 --> 03:00:59,640
John C. Dvorak: I don't know
where the shaming is. It's not

2976
03:00:59,640 --> 03:01:03,660
on the checklist. Obviously.
They'd be shaming, you know, you

2977
03:01:03,660 --> 03:01:05,370
must knuckle under this
something.

2978
03:01:07,170 --> 03:01:09,810
Adam Curry: He's he's an he's
not well loved. I don't think in

2979
03:01:09,810 --> 03:01:14,070
Silicon Valley. I think there's
seems to be some, some push back

2980
03:01:14,070 --> 03:01:14,820
against him.

2981
03:01:15,390 --> 03:01:17,670
John C. Dvorak: I don't know.
Now, the other big story that

2982
03:01:17,670 --> 03:01:21,960
no, that's not a big story. It's
just a story. But the big story

2983
03:01:21,960 --> 03:01:25,530
which nobody's talking about as
this Indian farmers revolution,

2984
03:01:25,560 --> 03:01:26,340
yeah.

2985
03:01:26,370 --> 03:01:30,210
Adam Curry: Yeah. There's a lot
going on. So India,

2986
03:01:30,690 --> 03:01:32,910
John C. Dvorak: the best they
could come up with was on the on

2987
03:01:32,910 --> 03:01:38,190
a podcast called the candid
Navion. Okay. And I have three

2988
03:01:38,190 --> 03:01:42,120
clips from them, plus a bonus
clip from a different podcast.

2989
03:01:43,710 --> 03:01:49,200
What George Galloway's got a
podcast. So let's go Indian

2990
03:01:49,200 --> 03:01:52,080
farmers candid Navion. The first
one,

2991
03:01:52,200 --> 03:01:54,780
Unknown: police in India have
set up concrete barriers and

2992
03:01:54,780 --> 03:01:58,500
laid razor wire to stop
protesting farmers from entering

2993
03:01:58,500 --> 03:02:01,920
New Delhi 10s of 1000s of
farmers have demonstrated for

2994
03:02:01,920 --> 03:02:05,040
months demanding the government
withdrawn new agriculture laws.

2995
03:02:05,460 --> 03:02:09,570
It might be the biggest protest
in human history. But to be

2996
03:02:09,570 --> 03:02:12,720
totally honest, I only really
found out about it after Rihanna

2997
03:02:12,720 --> 03:02:15,900
tweeted about it. What are the
farmers protests about

2998
03:02:15,990 --> 03:02:18,330
the farmers protests, it's
happening in India right now is

2999
03:02:18,330 --> 03:02:21,810
about three months old, give or
take it. It kind of started in

3000
03:02:21,810 --> 03:02:24,810
November, in Punjab as a city
and it eventually became a march

3001
03:02:24,810 --> 03:02:27,810
to delete, which was incredibly
violent. Trudeau would speak out

3002
03:02:27,810 --> 03:02:29,580
at one point about it in
December,

3003
03:02:29,910 --> 03:02:34,380
the situation is concerning. And
we're all very worried about

3004
03:02:34,380 --> 03:02:37,350
family and friends. I know.
That's the reality for many of

3005
03:02:37,350 --> 03:02:41,910
you. Let me remind you, Canada
will always be there to defend

3006
03:02:41,910 --> 03:02:43,980
the right peaceful protest.

3007
03:02:44,220 --> 03:02:46,620
And then it's been sitting
outside Delhi for about two

3008
03:02:46,620 --> 03:02:50,820
months, just waiting to kind of
come to a deal with the

3009
03:02:50,820 --> 03:02:54,420
government on these farmers
bills. Currently, the system is

3010
03:02:54,420 --> 03:02:57,810
known as the the Monday system,
which is sold to a wholesaler

3011
03:02:57,810 --> 03:03:01,830
who turns around and sells it to
essentially buyers. But what

3012
03:03:01,830 --> 03:03:05,010
comes with it in most
importantly, is a minimum

3013
03:03:05,040 --> 03:03:09,180
Senator price, or MSP, which
ensures that farmers are getting

3014
03:03:09,210 --> 03:03:13,380
a certain fixed amount for their
goods that is predictable, and

3015
03:03:13,380 --> 03:03:17,340
sustainable, which allows them
to plan for every year. So the

3016
03:03:17,400 --> 03:03:19,950
government is going to get rid
of the MSP. So they're going to

3017
03:03:19,950 --> 03:03:23,910
do away with essentially this
minimum pricing. And then

3018
03:03:23,910 --> 03:03:27,090
they're also going to open up
the space to corporate so that

3019
03:03:27,120 --> 03:03:30,570
corporates can then directly
engage farmers and not through

3020
03:03:30,600 --> 03:03:33,840
the Monday system or this
wholesale system. Also that

3021
03:03:33,840 --> 03:03:36,930
corporations can start, you
know, snatching up land. And

3022
03:03:36,930 --> 03:03:42,420
then also corporations can start
stockpiling produce. And so the

3023
03:03:42,420 --> 03:03:45,030
debates on whether reform is
necessary or not, it's just that

3024
03:03:45,030 --> 03:03:46,980
this is a wrong reform, and you
guys didn't use a proper

3025
03:03:46,980 --> 03:03:49,470
process, repeal everything,
we'll get back to the table.

3026
03:03:50,460 --> 03:03:54,360
Adam Curry: Well, what was that
at the end? You've got to repeal

3027
03:03:54,360 --> 03:03:56,910
everything because you're not
using the proper process because

3028
03:03:56,910 --> 03:03:58,950
you're protesting I don't quite
understand.

3029
03:03:59,009 --> 03:04:03,869
John C. Dvorak: No, no, there
was they are protesting because

3030
03:04:03,869 --> 03:04:08,339
they ramrodded these bills
through Oh, at the behest of

3031
03:04:08,339 --> 03:04:11,969
large corporations that are do
you know that do the big big

3032
03:04:11,969 --> 03:04:14,789
style of farming and they're
going to and they know that if

3033
03:04:14,789 --> 03:04:19,109
they get rid of the MSP the
minimum price pricing they will

3034
03:04:19,109 --> 03:04:23,279
just blow ball everybody ruin
these farmers? That's the idea.

3035
03:04:23,279 --> 03:04:25,799
The farmers know it. That's
where they're just like a

3036
03:04:25,829 --> 03:04:29,219
million of them protesting and
they're going to be out of

3037
03:04:29,219 --> 03:04:32,879
business. And that was that was
the whole thing is rigged. You

3038
03:04:32,879 --> 03:04:35,879
can't set up a system I mean,
yeah, oh, capitalism, we got to

3039
03:04:35,879 --> 03:04:38,579
do there really got to be
capitalist absolutist, but you

3040
03:04:38,579 --> 03:04:42,449
can't set up a system that works
a certain way, and then pull the

3041
03:04:42,449 --> 03:04:45,689
rug out from under it and call
it capitalism. I mean, that's

3042
03:04:45,719 --> 03:04:49,649
your just exploitation, it
seems. LET'S PLAY CLIP two.

3043
03:04:50,790 --> 03:04:55,560
Unknown: In November, a reported
250 million Indians held a

3044
03:04:55,560 --> 03:04:59,550
general strike in solidarity
with the farmers. As I said,

3045
03:04:59,550 --> 03:05:02,850
this is huge. huge, and it's
been happening for a while. But

3046
03:05:02,850 --> 03:05:06,420
while some people like me may
have been unaware of it all

3047
03:05:06,450 --> 03:05:10,560
before Rihanna and Greta tunberg
Got involved. Canada's Punjabi

3048
03:05:10,560 --> 03:05:13,320
diaspora has been following it
closely.

3049
03:05:13,620 --> 03:05:17,010
Adam Curry: I just need to give
two data points. Rihanna was

3050
03:05:17,010 --> 03:05:20,220
paid one and a half million
dollars to post about it. This

3051
03:05:20,220 --> 03:05:25,830
is fact true. It's out there.
And good at the tune Betty was

3052
03:05:25,860 --> 03:05:29,730
also either paid or told to
tweet about it because she

3053
03:05:29,730 --> 03:05:33,390
tweeted her talking points list
that was given to her by sources

3054
03:05:33,390 --> 03:05:41,250
unknown. So there is question is
who put them up to that?

3055
03:05:42,450 --> 03:05:44,460
John C. Dvorak: Well, I don't
know if you think that that was

3056
03:05:44,460 --> 03:05:48,180
like a moment of corruption.
Obviously, the there's farmers,

3057
03:05:48,510 --> 03:05:51,090
organizations, I'm sure they had
the money and they couldn't get

3058
03:05:51,090 --> 03:05:55,470
the they couldn't get. It's
probably kind of a smart version

3059
03:05:55,500 --> 03:06:01,380
of native advertising. They got
no attention from anybody except

3060
03:06:01,380 --> 03:06:06,540
some Canadians and mostly the
the expats from the Putin job,

3061
03:06:06,540 --> 03:06:10,590
which apparently Canada's full
of. Okay, and Americans don't

3062
03:06:10,590 --> 03:06:12,840
give a crap. Yeah. Have you
heard this story with any

3063
03:06:12,840 --> 03:06:13,920
details? No,

3064
03:06:13,950 --> 03:06:17,550
Adam Curry: only related to our
show, the only here I haven't

3065
03:06:17,550 --> 03:06:18,570
heard about anywhere else.

3066
03:06:18,810 --> 03:06:21,600
John C. Dvorak: Once in a while
somebody will write in. And so

3067
03:06:21,600 --> 03:06:25,410
they had to read so okay, you
get Rihanna as Agent you don't

3068
03:06:25,410 --> 03:06:28,560
talk to her. And he said, we
can't get this word out. But we

3069
03:06:28,560 --> 03:06:32,190
know of Rihanna tweets, it may
be somebody will start paying

3070
03:06:32,190 --> 03:06:37,020
attention like to scan the candy
Navy and podcast. And now we're

3071
03:06:37,020 --> 03:06:39,210
gonna just do that sort of
thing. She's not political.

3072
03:06:39,600 --> 03:06:46,770
Really? We'll get $50,000 is not
No, no, no. 60 Now, it goes on

3073
03:06:46,770 --> 03:06:50,580
and on and on. Half a million
now. I don't think so. 700

3074
03:06:50,580 --> 03:06:54,870
videos? No, no, no. A million.
Now. You're talking? Yeah, you

3075
03:06:54,870 --> 03:06:57,270
Adam Curry: getting in the
ballpark? And we don't want you

3076
03:06:57,270 --> 03:07:00,120
know what, give us 1,000,005
We'll throw in that kid from

3077
03:07:00,330 --> 03:07:03,690
from Sweden. Come on.

3078
03:07:03,960 --> 03:07:06,600
Unknown: That's how we do it.
That would be right.

3079
03:07:09,360 --> 03:07:11,760
John C. Dvorak: So this story is
not gonna be reported. Because

3080
03:07:11,760 --> 03:07:13,890
Trump's too important. But let's
get his nose. This is not gonna

3081
03:07:13,890 --> 03:07:16,620
get any ratings. But let's
listen to the third clip, which

3082
03:07:16,620 --> 03:07:20,400
is George Galloway's podcast on
our tea.

3083
03:07:20,460 --> 03:07:24,420
Unknown: It's a local Indian
issue, of course. But it's a

3084
03:07:24,420 --> 03:07:27,990
global issue, because it's a
fight about the nature of

3085
03:07:28,020 --> 03:07:31,410
agriculture agree in a
capitalist system. You see,

3086
03:07:31,410 --> 03:07:34,560
there's been so much pressure
globally, George against

3087
03:07:34,560 --> 03:07:38,130
farmers, small farmers,
agricultural workers, and so on.

3088
03:07:38,430 --> 03:07:42,750
This pressure is being borne by
them. And it is coming from

3089
03:07:42,750 --> 03:07:45,750
large corporate entities,
whether it's the big

3090
03:07:45,750 --> 03:07:49,170
agricultural firms, or it's the
supply chains. In other words,

3091
03:07:49,350 --> 03:07:53,580
you know, companies that buy the
goods and want to push prices

3092
03:07:53,580 --> 03:07:58,050
down as much as possible.
There's a global appetite for

3093
03:07:58,080 --> 03:08:01,980
basically agricultural
insurrection against the supply

3094
03:08:01,980 --> 03:08:05,910
chains against big big box
stores, and so on. And I think

3095
03:08:06,150 --> 03:08:10,080
the local issue of these three
laws that the Indian farmers are

3096
03:08:10,080 --> 03:08:14,100
fighting against, has sparked
interest around the world

3097
03:08:14,100 --> 03:08:18,570
because people who are worried
about who makes our food, what

3098
03:08:18,570 --> 03:08:22,350
kind of food is it? Healthy food
is it you know, food that's

3099
03:08:22,350 --> 03:08:25,620
called to sustain us? These
questions have been in on

3100
03:08:25,620 --> 03:08:29,130
people's minds and during the
pandemic, even more so, as

3101
03:08:29,130 --> 03:08:32,010
supply chains have been
disrupted, as people's

3102
03:08:32,010 --> 03:08:35,880
livelihoods have been damaged.
So I feel like what's happening

3103
03:08:35,880 --> 03:08:40,470
in India is the frontline of a
global struggle between people's

3104
03:08:40,470 --> 03:08:46,020
need to survive to eat, and the
other minorities need to

3105
03:08:46,140 --> 03:08:50,520
basically continue to make vast
profits. You saw the Oxfam

3106
03:08:50,520 --> 03:08:54,600
report, George that was released
during the Davos Summit. You

3107
03:08:54,600 --> 03:08:58,050
know, the World Economic Forum
dish showed that 10 of the

3108
03:08:58,050 --> 03:09:02,160
world's largest trillionaires
made, you know, half a trillion

3109
03:09:02,160 --> 03:09:05,700
dollars during the pandemic.
This is the frontline of a

3110
03:09:05,700 --> 03:09:08,100
global struggle, George that's
how we have to

3111
03:09:08,100 --> 03:09:12,270
Adam Curry: see it on the Punjab
pulling upon job

3112
03:09:14,280 --> 03:09:17,430
John C. Dvorak: I think this is
the this is not gonna go away as

3113
03:09:17,430 --> 03:09:19,740
it started with France, the
French remember them?

3114
03:09:19,770 --> 03:09:21,930
Adam Curry: You know what, not
just that we've had farmer

3115
03:09:21,930 --> 03:09:24,000
protests in the Netherlands in
Germany.

3116
03:09:24,240 --> 03:09:26,010
John C. Dvorak: That's right. I
forgot the Netherlands is all in

3117
03:09:26,010 --> 03:09:27,780
on these is not just a part

3118
03:09:27,810 --> 03:09:33,450
Adam Curry: of the great reset,
quote, unquote. Maybe what I

3119
03:09:33,450 --> 03:09:38,370
hear about a lot is food deserts
food scarcity. We're

3120
03:09:38,370 --> 03:09:40,200
John C. Dvorak: going to run out
of food and going on for a

3121
03:09:40,200 --> 03:09:41,310
decade. No,

3122
03:09:41,340 --> 03:09:44,280
Adam Curry: I know, but I'm
seeing it more now. And now

3123
03:09:44,280 --> 03:09:48,150
you've got this is the clearly
Okay, the way I would do this

3124
03:09:48,150 --> 03:09:51,330
Rihanna or not, I'm not quite
sure how that fits into it, is

3125
03:09:51,720 --> 03:09:55,830
we need to save the planet.
Because we're all going to die.

3126
03:09:55,860 --> 03:09:59,520
We can't produce enough food.
And I'm really sorry. We have to

3127
03:09:59,520 --> 03:10:03,270
bring it To our buddies here,
the big M Monsanto. They're

3128
03:10:03,270 --> 03:10:07,320
already responsible for half the
food deserts in the world. We

3129
03:10:07,320 --> 03:10:10,050
have to we have to industrialize
it. I'm sorry, I really got to

3130
03:10:10,050 --> 03:10:14,370
get rid of you guys. I just
don't understand why they're

3131
03:10:14,370 --> 03:10:15,630
doing that this way.

3132
03:10:16,949 --> 03:10:20,309
John C. Dvorak: Well, I'm my
suspicions centered around

3133
03:10:20,729 --> 03:10:21,419
Greta.

3134
03:10:22,379 --> 03:10:26,549
Adam Curry: Right, that climate
change shit comes in the you

3135
03:10:26,549 --> 03:10:29,759
know, the you know, something's
up. Yeah. And it's

3136
03:10:29,760 --> 03:10:31,950
John C. Dvorak: bothersome and
so I don't know how to feel

3137
03:10:31,950 --> 03:10:33,930
about the whole thing. I don't
like the idea of this phony

3138
03:10:33,930 --> 03:10:37,380
baloney, you know, this is
almost capitalist fault. And

3139
03:10:37,380 --> 03:10:40,170
that's going to be just a lot of
tax on capitalism, these big

3140
03:10:40,170 --> 03:10:42,870
corporations that are acting
like this. This is not

3141
03:10:42,870 --> 03:10:45,990
representative of good old
fashioned capitalism by any

3142
03:10:45,990 --> 03:10:50,970
means. No, it's you know, it's
it's trusts and instant kinds of

3143
03:10:50,970 --> 03:10:54,150
thing gouging, slavery, low
balling all the worst things you

3144
03:10:54,150 --> 03:10:57,330
can imagine. In an unregulated,
and

3145
03:10:57,330 --> 03:11:00,300
Adam Curry: what we know from
from our few producers, who we

3146
03:11:00,330 --> 03:11:03,180
are in contact with, from India,
most of these farmers have a

3147
03:11:03,180 --> 03:11:07,410
very small plot very small. And
there's already all these

3148
03:11:07,410 --> 03:11:12,660
problems with this, like Africa,
lots of problems with the

3149
03:11:13,080 --> 03:11:16,860
patented seeds, that kind of
thing. Now, the patented seeds

3150
03:11:16,860 --> 03:11:21,480
things a disaster. So there's
another element. We have an

3151
03:11:21,510 --> 03:11:28,470
ongoing strife between India and
Pakistan, Pakistan is completely

3152
03:11:28,500 --> 03:11:32,880
up China's but I think so you'd
have to take that into

3153
03:11:32,910 --> 03:11:38,370
consideration. It could be
Chinese messaging, I'm not sure.

3154
03:11:39,450 --> 03:11:43,440
And, you know, the fact that
India has shut down PayPal right

3155
03:11:43,440 --> 03:11:48,210
now you can't pay pal us from
India. Why? What are they doing?

3156
03:11:48,210 --> 03:11:50,910
John C. Dvorak: Why? That's the
what's the big deal? They're

3157
03:11:50,910 --> 03:11:51,120
going

3158
03:11:51,120 --> 03:11:54,720
Adam Curry: to ban Bitcoin they
think but so so there's

3159
03:11:54,720 --> 03:11:57,630
something going on? There's
there's reasons for it. We

3160
03:11:57,630 --> 03:12:01,020
haven't figured it out yet. And
I And yes, the Greta angle,

3161
03:12:01,830 --> 03:12:06,270
because it bothers me. But if
you've got 1.5 As reported for

3162
03:12:06,300 --> 03:12:10,170
Rihanna, now still, that's
that's, and you hear the guy

3163
03:12:10,170 --> 03:12:12,810
repeating it. I didn't know
about until Rihanna told me till

3164
03:12:12,810 --> 03:12:15,900
Rihanna told me to ever Yeah.
Why is he saying that? Why is

3165
03:12:15,900 --> 03:12:17,940
that? Why the emphasis on
release?

3166
03:12:17,970 --> 03:12:20,190
John C. Dvorak: I think it's
just his way of being irked

3167
03:12:20,190 --> 03:12:25,080
about it. Yeah. I don't think it
was any more to it than that. I

3168
03:12:25,080 --> 03:12:27,360
do have one. Since you brought
up climate change, you do the

3169
03:12:27,360 --> 03:12:31,830
one. I'm gonna do a piece on
this. By the way, I started to

3170
03:12:31,830 --> 03:12:35,580
see I've already gotten to
eclipse for all these climate

3171
03:12:35,580 --> 03:12:39,660
change COVID And climate change
they're trying to hook up. Yeah,

3172
03:12:39,690 --> 03:12:43,470
you're desperate to hook these
two together, because they got

3173
03:12:43,470 --> 03:12:45,390
everybody all freaked out in
panic limits.

3174
03:12:46,260 --> 03:12:48,390
Adam Curry: Let me tell you how
it goes. Because we didn't take

3175
03:12:48,390 --> 03:12:52,620
care of the earth, because we
didn't take care of the climate.

3176
03:12:53,010 --> 03:12:56,490
That's why you get all this
weird stuff happening in the

3177
03:12:56,490 --> 03:13:00,660
world. And that's how we got
COVID. So we need to do more

3178
03:13:00,690 --> 03:13:03,930
against climate change that we
don't get the next COVID This is

3179
03:13:03,930 --> 03:13:05,400
exactly what they're saying.

3180
03:13:05,550 --> 03:13:07,620
John C. Dvorak: Well, that's one
of the elements but that doesn't

3181
03:13:07,620 --> 03:13:12,450
get people as freaky as COVID
done no, no COVID is I don't

3182
03:13:12,450 --> 03:13:15,240
know what they're gonna do. But
but here's the climate change

3183
03:13:15,240 --> 03:13:18,240
means COVID clip, which is the
only one I have oh, there's

3184
03:13:18,240 --> 03:13:19,710
plenty of clips like this

3185
03:13:19,980 --> 03:13:21,990
Unknown: to Cambridge have
discovered a possible link

3186
03:13:21,990 --> 03:13:25,500
between the emergence of the
Coronavirus and climate change.

3187
03:13:25,650 --> 03:13:29,280
CBS 17 Storm Team meteorologist
Brian hunt and JR explains that

3188
03:13:29,280 --> 03:13:30,150
possible link

3189
03:13:31,620 --> 03:13:35,880
like SARS and MERS COVID-19 is
believed to originate from bats.

3190
03:13:36,060 --> 03:13:39,600
And a new study published last
week suggests climate change was

3191
03:13:39,600 --> 03:13:42,840
the mechanism to allow the virus
to mutate to be able to be

3192
03:13:42,840 --> 03:13:46,560
transmitted to humans. The study
published in the journal Science

3193
03:13:46,560 --> 03:13:49,740
of the total environment found
that habitats in southern China

3194
03:13:49,770 --> 03:13:53,190
allowed for a diverse bat
populations to develop. This

3195
03:13:53,190 --> 03:13:56,580
region of China has changed his
vegetation over the last century

3196
03:13:56,640 --> 03:13:59,310
due to effects of climate
change. According to the study,

3197
03:13:59,700 --> 03:14:02,940
they analyzed vegetation and bat
data from the early 20th

3198
03:14:02,940 --> 03:14:06,840
century. And compare that to
today to find upwards of 40

3199
03:14:06,840 --> 03:14:09,690
different species of bat may
have moved into the region,

3200
03:14:09,870 --> 03:14:13,560
bringing around 100 New
Coronavirus types to the area.

3201
03:14:14,250 --> 03:14:17,670
Most bats carry about three
Corona viruses last the majority

3202
03:14:17,670 --> 03:14:21,270
of which cannot impact humans.
But if enough of the different

3203
03:14:21,270 --> 03:14:24,750
viruses intermingle and mutate,
they can be transmitted to

3204
03:14:24,750 --> 03:14:29,100
humans, like with COVID 19 and
SARS and MERS before it.

3205
03:14:29,490 --> 03:14:32,490
Southern China isn't the only
place impacted by climate

3206
03:14:32,490 --> 03:14:36,150
change. parts of Central Africa
and Central and South America

3207
03:14:36,180 --> 03:14:40,050
have also seen an increase in
new bat populations. The

3208
03:14:40,050 --> 03:14:42,570
researchers echo calls from
other studies asking for

3209
03:14:42,570 --> 03:14:45,630
economic recovery efforts to
include addressing climate

3210
03:14:45,630 --> 03:14:49,620
change. Meteorologist Brian
Hutton Jr, CBS 17 News.

3211
03:14:51,030 --> 03:14:58,560
John C. Dvorak: Huh Well heard
of this journal but okay, they

3212
03:14:58,710 --> 03:15:02,610
apparently have a good PR paper.
Number one, climate change

3213
03:15:03,150 --> 03:15:07,110
generally causes supposedly, if
climate, there's my message

3214
03:15:07,110 --> 03:15:10,560
again, wait an hour, a climate
change? Are you there? By the

3215
03:15:10,560 --> 03:15:14,160
way? I'm listening to you.
Climate change generally,

3216
03:15:14,370 --> 03:15:19,770
because it's global warming, has
animals moving north into areas

3217
03:15:19,770 --> 03:15:22,320
that are more temperate because
it's getting too damned hot

3218
03:15:22,320 --> 03:15:25,650
where they're from? How is it
that these bats move from the

3219
03:15:25,650 --> 03:15:28,770
colder areas down to the hotter
areas that are now hotter than

3220
03:15:28,770 --> 03:15:31,920
ever? Because of climate change?
Why are they going in the wrong

3221
03:15:31,920 --> 03:15:35,700
direction? That question is not
addressed. The second one is now

3222
03:15:35,700 --> 03:15:39,000
we have all these new species. I
thought climate change was

3223
03:15:39,060 --> 03:15:44,490
making all these species go
away. killing the animals

3224
03:15:44,610 --> 03:15:45,660
extinct the

3225
03:15:45,660 --> 03:15:48,900
Adam Curry: next big extinction,
the extinction event coalition,

3226
03:15:48,930 --> 03:15:50,730
or they call it extinction.

3227
03:15:52,080 --> 03:15:55,500
John C. Dvorak: Extinction. Gs
distinction. Rebellion. Yeah,

3228
03:15:55,500 --> 03:15:58,890
well, that's the group who was
extinction rebellion. So so the

3229
03:15:58,920 --> 03:16:05,190
basis of this argument doesn't
even make any sense based on the

3230
03:16:05,190 --> 03:16:10,860
climate change models that
they're throwing at us. It's

3231
03:16:10,860 --> 03:16:13,980
just annoys me to know and
they're just trying to create

3232
03:16:14,040 --> 03:16:17,610
this again. But I think as we
pointed this out, it's

3233
03:16:17,610 --> 03:16:20,610
Adam Curry: an opportunity to
packaging opportunity. We can

3234
03:16:20,610 --> 03:16:24,960
roll up Rihanna, we can throw in
the Greta Thun Berry and we can

3235
03:16:24,960 --> 03:16:28,680
add an Al Gore I mean, the total
package price two mil whatever,

3236
03:16:28,680 --> 03:16:30,270
you get some tweet doctored

3237
03:16:30,270 --> 03:16:31,230
John C. Dvorak: evidence,
doctored

3238
03:16:31,230 --> 03:16:38,880
Adam Curry: evidence. Yeah,
well, that and what's annoying

3239
03:16:38,940 --> 03:16:41,820
in all this is report after
report now streaming and I'm

3240
03:16:41,820 --> 03:16:48,990
sure it's not meant to be that
the lockdowns in fact, made the

3241
03:16:48,990 --> 03:16:52,350
Earth warm up a little bit, not
much, but significant enough and

3242
03:16:52,350 --> 03:16:56,070
noticeably, according to the
scientists. It's everywhere. Oh,

3243
03:16:56,070 --> 03:16:59,340
wait a minute, because we didn't
have that much pollution. The

3244
03:16:59,340 --> 03:17:04,170
sun keyed it up the Earth more.
Oh. So you know what's coming

3245
03:17:04,170 --> 03:17:05,880
next. You know what's coming
next?

3246
03:17:07,650 --> 03:17:11,310
John C. Dvorak: Well, they
gotta, they gotta pull that. No,

3247
03:17:11,310 --> 03:17:14,010
because they can't lock people
up. If it turns out locking him

3248
03:17:14,010 --> 03:17:15,900
up, makes the things get warmer.

3249
03:17:19,020 --> 03:17:20,250
Unknown: That's what's kind of a
Bill

3250
03:17:20,250 --> 03:17:21,120
John C. Dvorak: Gates again.
That's

3251
03:17:21,330 --> 03:17:24,930
Adam Curry: Bill Gates, Bill
Gates. Yeah, that's coming. I

3252
03:17:24,930 --> 03:17:27,600
don't know, John, I think we're
going to go through this this

3253
03:17:27,600 --> 03:17:32,280
year will be I predict even
crazier than last year in a

3254
03:17:32,280 --> 03:17:36,420
different way. But it may be
even crazier. These people are

3255
03:17:36,420 --> 03:17:40,380
unhinged and nuts. I was just
texting with Willow this

3256
03:17:40,380 --> 03:17:43,260
morning. You know, they just
replaced their their Prime

3257
03:17:43,260 --> 03:17:47,370
Minister, who's the Prime
Minister? Draghi, the former

3258
03:17:47,370 --> 03:17:51,450
central banker? Dude, yeah. When
you put the central bankers in

3259
03:17:51,450 --> 03:17:57,600
charge of the countries Hello.
That's not going to end well.

3260
03:17:59,550 --> 03:18:03,990
No. You know what else is
happening? You know, do you

3261
03:18:03,990 --> 03:18:07,020
remember this is part of the
climate change. In the

3262
03:18:07,020 --> 03:18:10,230
Netherlands, they no longer
they've told everybody, no more

3263
03:18:10,230 --> 03:18:14,640
gas for you. You can't buy a
house with gas. There's no gas,

3264
03:18:14,670 --> 03:18:18,240
electricity is all electricity,
no gas for your heating, no gas

3265
03:18:18,240 --> 03:18:23,280
for your cooking. No gas for
your hot water. No. And it's

3266
03:18:23,280 --> 03:18:27,960
coming here at the verge. Now
the verge will print anything

3267
03:18:27,960 --> 03:18:33,600
for money. And they have a huge
article, read this article about

3268
03:18:33,600 --> 03:18:38,550
how we got duped into cooking
with gas and they assert they

3269
03:18:38,550 --> 03:18:44,760
assert that the public was duped
into using this hazardous

3270
03:18:45,210 --> 03:18:50,430
pollutant? Yes, yes. Gas Stove.
I'm reading from the article.

3271
03:18:50,610 --> 03:18:56,400
gas stoves actually unleash
indoor air pollutants like soot,

3272
03:18:56,490 --> 03:19:02,220
formaldehyde, carbon monoxide,
nitrogen dioxide. Beyond that

3273
03:19:02,250 --> 03:19:05,130
greenhouse gas emissions from
fossil fuels like natural gas

3274
03:19:05,130 --> 03:19:06,630
drive climate change.

3275
03:19:07,830 --> 03:19:09,750
John C. Dvorak: Oh, that's a
terrible, by the way I shouldn't

3276
03:19:09,750 --> 03:19:13,740
before you continue, I want you
to finish this Washington State,

3277
03:19:13,830 --> 03:19:19,440
especially that the area that we
have a house in is all as they

3278
03:19:19,440 --> 03:19:22,170
did this years and years ago, I
think it was in the 70s they

3279
03:19:22,170 --> 03:19:26,130
decided there's no more gas.
Everything's electricity because

3280
03:19:26,130 --> 03:19:29,610
we got these dams and read and
the gas read white put these

3281
03:19:29,610 --> 03:19:32,430
pipes in. They're dangerous. And
so they took the gas out.

3282
03:19:32,550 --> 03:19:35,490
There's no gas, for example, in
Port Angeles, Washington and

3283
03:19:35,490 --> 03:19:39,480
most of that Peninsula. It's all
electricity. And it was cheap

3284
03:19:39,480 --> 03:19:42,360
when they first did it. Of
course then they took the dams

3285
03:19:42,360 --> 03:19:45,390
out because of climate change
and it's hurting the environment

3286
03:19:45,390 --> 03:19:48,210
and the salmon can swim up river
you know, we're doing a fine job

3287
03:19:48,210 --> 03:19:51,900
of bypassing it and they took
the dams on net. Now it costs a

3288
03:19:51,900 --> 03:19:56,130
fortune to turn your stove on
because it's a stupid electric

3289
03:19:56,130 --> 03:20:00,360
stove that does a crappy job.
This guys are nuts because gas

3290
03:20:00,360 --> 03:20:04,830
burns beautifully. It doesn't
put soot who gets sweat from

3291
03:20:04,830 --> 03:20:05,760
there? So hold on,

3292
03:20:05,760 --> 03:20:11,220
Adam Curry: let me let me this
is a debunking it actually, I'm

3293
03:20:11,220 --> 03:20:17,220
quoting unleashes indoor indoor
air pollutants like soot.

3294
03:20:18,090 --> 03:20:22,200
Formaldehyde Do you believe that
to be true?

3295
03:20:23,130 --> 03:20:24,690
John C. Dvorak: No, I don't
believe it to be true.

3296
03:20:25,740 --> 03:20:29,010
Adam Curry: Carbon monoxide and
nitrogen dioxide

3297
03:20:30,180 --> 03:20:32,340
John C. Dvorak: it doesn't
release carbon monoxide because

3298
03:20:32,340 --> 03:20:36,810
you'd be dead that's what you
think. If you start a fire a

3299
03:20:36,810 --> 03:20:41,700
barbecue in your house with
charcoal Yes, nothing but carbon

3300
03:20:41,700 --> 03:20:44,760
monoxide comes out let me zip
everything comes off. That's

3301
03:20:44,760 --> 03:20:46,620
where you get your suit and your
carbon dioxide and carbon

3302
03:20:46,620 --> 03:20:51,480
monoxide and you could kill
people barbecue inside the house

3303
03:20:51,510 --> 03:20:54,540
that's why you're not supposed
to do it. But definitely go and

3304
03:20:54,540 --> 03:20:59,280
clean burning gas stove. This is
bull crap.

3305
03:21:00,000 --> 03:21:02,370
Adam Curry: Today gas groups
listen to this from the same

3306
03:21:02,370 --> 03:21:06,480
article. This is pot calling the
kettle black. Today gas groups

3307
03:21:06,510 --> 03:21:11,250
pay social media influencers to
advertise the suppose it

3308
03:21:11,250 --> 03:21:16,200
benefits of cooking with fossil
fuel. Like you didn't get paid

3309
03:21:16,200 --> 03:21:20,430
to structure that sentence. I'm
not cooking with fossil fuel.

3310
03:21:22,110 --> 03:21:26,940
Honey crank up the dinosaurs. A
public relations representative

3311
03:21:26,970 --> 03:21:30,870
even posed as a resident in a
neighborhood to stir up backlash

3312
03:21:30,870 --> 03:21:33,690
against building codes that
would discourage natural gas

3313
03:21:33,690 --> 03:21:39,930
hookups in new construction.
Yes, of course. I live in Texas

3314
03:21:39,930 --> 03:21:42,870
we got a lot of gas here
throughout this winter which has

3315
03:21:42,870 --> 03:21:49,830
been not just unseasonably cold,
but record breaking in some

3316
03:21:49,830 --> 03:21:54,810
cases, global warming our
monthly bill now we heat the

3317
03:21:54,810 --> 03:22:00,390
entire downstairs from a gas
fireplace. And we have gas oven

3318
03:22:00,390 --> 03:22:07,770
and gas stove and we cook six,
six days out of the week. Our

3319
03:22:07,770 --> 03:22:13,800
monthly gas bill What do you
think that is? $250.30 bucks.

3320
03:22:14,250 --> 03:22:20,520
What? Yes. Now, electricity just
for keeping the upstairs heated

3321
03:22:20,520 --> 03:22:24,480
when I'm here in the studio. And
me we have LED lights so I don't

3322
03:22:24,480 --> 03:22:28,080
know where your computers are
running. Now that's that's 200

3323
03:22:28,080 --> 03:22:30,270
bucks a month. And that's when
we're not using the air

3324
03:22:30,270 --> 03:22:33,360
conditioner because it's not the
summer it goes up a lot. But the

3325
03:22:33,360 --> 03:22:37,950
gas is 30 bucks a month and I
have the fireplace on all day.

3326
03:22:41,370 --> 03:22:43,980
So seems like a good deal to

3327
03:22:43,980 --> 03:22:48,450
John C. Dvorak: me. Now they're
just trying to screw us. And

3328
03:22:48,450 --> 03:22:53,250
it's shameful that these these
magazines, online, whatever you

3329
03:22:53,250 --> 03:22:58,050
want to call them The Verge. The
Verge would take an ad like that

3330
03:22:58,050 --> 03:23:01,230
and run it out to just have any
indication anywhere that's paid

3331
03:23:01,230 --> 03:23:04,200
for by somebody. It's got to do
that somewhere.

3332
03:23:04,440 --> 03:23:07,470
Adam Curry: The Verge Well, you
know, the Verge is where dudes

3333
03:23:07,470 --> 03:23:13,620
named Ben go to test their their
browser, because it's so many

3334
03:23:13,620 --> 03:23:17,490
trackers and ads in on their
pages. Let me see who wrote it

3335
03:23:17,490 --> 03:23:23,100
here. Justine Kolyma. Let's see
who Justine comm is. She's a

3336
03:23:23,100 --> 03:23:26,490
science reporter at the verge,
covering environment and climate

3337
03:23:26,490 --> 03:23:31,530
change. And okay, he should be
ashamed

3338
03:23:31,530 --> 03:23:32,850
John C. Dvorak: of herself as a
writer.

3339
03:23:33,330 --> 03:23:39,420
Adam Curry: Probably. No,
definitely. I don't see anything

3340
03:23:39,420 --> 03:23:43,020
that shows any advertising at
all here but

3341
03:23:43,650 --> 03:23:45,570
John C. Dvorak: what about the
very end? Is this anything like

3342
03:23:45,570 --> 03:23:47,940
it contributed something
remember?

3343
03:23:52,050 --> 03:23:56,070
Adam Curry: No, it refers to
this other person, a different

3344
03:23:56,070 --> 03:23:59,820
article, her name is LIBOR. Who
is this maybe that's Oh, that's

3345
03:23:59,820 --> 03:24:06,060
also that's Mother Jones, a
brother at the gas industry is

3346
03:24:06,060 --> 03:24:10,530
paying Instagram influencers to
gush over gas stoves. This is a

3347
03:24:10,530 --> 03:24:14,760
fight I like this we're gonna
have influencers up against

3348
03:24:14,760 --> 03:24:16,290
influencers. Cool.

3349
03:24:17,070 --> 03:24:21,750
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that'd be
fun. I'm surprised it wasn't

3350
03:24:21,750 --> 03:24:24,270
written the follow up yet, but
I'm doing it this way the

3351
03:24:24,270 --> 03:24:33,540
sentence. The influencers are
paid to gush over dangerous gas

3352
03:24:33,540 --> 03:24:34,770
stoves. Yes,

3353
03:24:34,800 --> 03:24:39,540
Adam Curry: that's how you want
to do it. Dangerous gas stoves

3354
03:24:39,540 --> 03:24:42,810
and then not doing just just
saying soot and formaldehyde.

3355
03:24:42,810 --> 03:24:47,880
That doesn't impress anybody.
Again, again, curried word,

3356
03:24:48,480 --> 03:24:49,080
group. Yeah.

3357
03:24:49,950 --> 03:24:52,290
John C. Dvorak: Where's the
suit? I've been using gas stoves

3358
03:24:52,290 --> 03:24:57,090
for, I don't know. 40 years and
I've got a I don't turn the fan

3359
03:24:57,090 --> 03:24:59,970
on. Usually I just turned it on
the gas. I'd never seen any

3360
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:06,630
Should you just train them they
do they think everybody's an

3361
03:25:06,660 --> 03:25:07,080
idiot

3362
03:25:07,410 --> 03:25:07,860
Unknown: yeah

3363
03:25:08,850 --> 03:25:18,810
Adam Curry: hidden mama sucking
in the abandoned you might suck

3364
03:25:18,810 --> 03:25:22,560
it in such sounds like they got
the old playback book back

3365
03:25:22,980 --> 03:25:27,780
playbook back. It's what I was
gonna say just more sit. I don't

3366
03:25:27,780 --> 03:25:30,330
know man they need to upgrade
their messaging they need to do

3367
03:25:30,330 --> 03:25:33,600
something because this is just
annoying and I'd rather than rip

3368
03:25:33,600 --> 03:25:36,540
the band aid off same for the
farmers just tell the farmers

3369
03:25:36,540 --> 03:25:38,310
are screwed learn to code

3370
03:25:40,080 --> 03:25:41,550
John C. Dvorak: Yes, learn to
code

3371
03:25:41,580 --> 03:25:43,440
Adam Curry: they're in the right
country. I mean they're gonna

3372
03:25:43,440 --> 03:25:47,160
have people who know how to code
there. They didn't learn to code

3373
03:25:47,280 --> 03:25:49,830
learn to code to alright.

3374
03:25:52,470 --> 03:25:56,730
John C. Dvorak: quickie here
Yeah, sure. Discipline one me me

3375
03:25:56,760 --> 03:26:02,010
found and on the local station
there in Fort Worth, and said I

3376
03:26:02,010 --> 03:26:05,010
should play it I so I don't know
why. And then Oh, I see why this

3377
03:26:05,010 --> 03:26:07,290
is I didn't even play the whole
thing. only have six seconds

3378
03:26:07,290 --> 03:26:12,180
that important part. Wait, wait,
stop. This is about that giant

3379
03:26:12,180 --> 03:26:15,600
pile up. Oh, in doubt, which
everybody's seen the videos of

3380
03:26:15,780 --> 03:26:19,200
cars flying all over the place
now. Yeah, here it goes.

3381
03:26:19,680 --> 03:26:22,410
Unknown: Yeah. And we're now
looking according to officials

3382
03:26:22,410 --> 03:26:25,770
at at least 133 vehicles that
were involved.

3383
03:26:27,780 --> 03:26:33,870
John C. Dvorak: Oh, gosh.
Really? Yeah. Started off at 72.

3384
03:26:33,870 --> 03:26:38,070
But somehow it got to 133. Yeah.
Yeah, I

3385
03:26:38,070 --> 03:26:40,410
Adam Curry: think five people
died. That was bad.

3386
03:26:40,440 --> 03:26:42,510
John C. Dvorak: Oh, it was a
mess. It was actually quite the

3387
03:26:42,510 --> 03:26:43,470
thing to watch.

3388
03:26:44,279 --> 03:26:47,369
Adam Curry: Well, I'm very used
to that. In another ones, you

3389
03:26:47,369 --> 03:26:50,489
know, back in the day, when they
had all this mist. They would

3390
03:26:50,489 --> 03:26:55,499
have chain accidents. They call
them getting bolts in. And they

3391
03:26:55,499 --> 03:27:01,169
would be some 80 kilometers at
because people just because you

3392
03:27:01,169 --> 03:27:02,849
don't see anything because of
the mist.

3393
03:27:03,390 --> 03:27:07,020
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, but this
was this was just because I hit

3394
03:27:07,020 --> 03:27:08,760
the brakes. Nothing. Yeah.

3395
03:27:10,230 --> 03:27:10,500
Adam Curry: Good.

3396
03:27:12,750 --> 03:27:15,120
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, they were
used to be there was a France

3397
03:27:15,120 --> 03:27:17,910
that apparently had some pile up
like the one you just described.

3398
03:27:18,090 --> 03:27:20,730
Same thing. We used to have a
lot of Tooley fog in the Bay

3399
03:27:20,730 --> 03:27:21,600
Area. Oh, they

3400
03:27:21,600 --> 03:27:24,900
Adam Curry: had that. During the
vacation time. Whenever one goes

3401
03:27:24,900 --> 03:27:27,660
down south through France, they
had several times that's

3402
03:27:27,660 --> 03:27:30,780
happened. They have one of those
100 Kilometer pileups Yeah.

3403
03:27:32,610 --> 03:27:34,920
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, if you
can't see five feet ahead of

3404
03:27:34,920 --> 03:27:41,760
you. I don't know why you even
driving your car. Well, why are

3405
03:27:41,760 --> 03:27:43,500
you driving at full speed?

3406
03:27:44,250 --> 03:27:46,620
Adam Curry: Elon Musk is going
to solve all of this for us.

3407
03:27:47,370 --> 03:27:48,930
John C. Dvorak: Don't do it that
way. When you get in these

3408
03:27:48,930 --> 03:27:52,650
wrecks everyone gets
electrocuted. To worry about

3409
03:27:52,650 --> 03:27:53,670
taking the bodies out.

3410
03:27:55,230 --> 03:27:56,700
Adam Curry: All right, let me
see if I got anything else

3411
03:27:56,700 --> 03:28:00,000
before we do our second break
here. Thanks. Some people as the

3412
03:28:00,000 --> 03:28:04,140
affiliate should note we are
running long. Yeah, maybe this

3413
03:28:04,140 --> 03:28:07,740
one. This is how it always
starts.

3414
03:28:07,800 --> 03:28:10,380
Unknown: 60 year old woman who
died on Wednesday in the

3415
03:28:10,380 --> 03:28:13,500
district of Vienna had a link
with a woman who also died after

3416
03:28:13,500 --> 03:28:16,050
contracting Ebola and was
married to a survival the

3417
03:28:16,050 --> 03:28:18,960
previous major outbreak. The
statement said Congress Health

3418
03:28:18,960 --> 03:28:21,900
Ministry has deployed a team to
the area and is tracing more

3419
03:28:21,900 --> 03:28:25,020
than 100 contacts of the two
women in the health zones of BNI

3420
03:28:25,020 --> 03:28:29,490
and catwa. Ebola swept through
Eastern Congo from 2018 to 2020.

3421
03:28:29,520 --> 03:28:32,790
In an outbreak that killed more
than 2200 people before it was

3422
03:28:32,790 --> 03:28:36,330
declared over last June. It is
not usually for sporadic cases

3423
03:28:36,330 --> 03:28:38,910
to occur following a major
outbreak. According to the World

3424
03:28:38,910 --> 03:28:42,000
Health Organization, Congress.
Equatorial forests have been a

3425
03:28:42,000 --> 03:28:44,670
breeding ground for the Ebola
virus, which causes severe

3426
03:28:44,670 --> 03:28:47,250
vomiting and diarrhea and is
spread through contact with

3427
03:28:47,250 --> 03:28:51,000
bodily fluids. The country has
experienced 11 outbreaks since

3428
03:28:51,000 --> 03:28:53,940
the virus was first discovered
near the Ebola River in the year

3429
03:28:53,940 --> 03:28:55,350
1976.

3430
03:28:56,910 --> 03:29:00,450
Adam Curry: So another outbreak
in eastern Congo, not all that

3431
03:29:00,450 --> 03:29:03,330
Western Africa part that Obama
was looking at, which is the

3432
03:29:03,330 --> 03:29:07,020
real Ebola we all know what
Eastern Congo is. This isn't a

3433
03:29:07,020 --> 03:29:15,210
town of Butembo it's the mining
town. It's the warlords has very

3434
03:29:15,210 --> 03:29:18,450
little to do with Ebola they
just scare people away by saying

3435
03:29:18,450 --> 03:29:21,270
there's Ebola yeah and then we
send them to and then we send

3436
03:29:21,270 --> 03:29:24,750
troops in exactly now smart are
we going to fight this time?

3437
03:29:25,710 --> 03:29:27,030
John C. Dvorak: Some other
Boneheads?

3438
03:29:27,060 --> 03:29:30,450
Adam Curry: You know it Yeah.
Well, that was easy to

3439
03:29:30,450 --> 03:29:35,910
deconstruct. Take anything Don't
take me into hard, quick noodle

3440
03:29:35,910 --> 03:29:41,880
gun look. KPMG UK boss has had
to quit. After a telling staff

3441
03:29:41,880 --> 03:29:46,380
that the concept of unbiased
unconscious bias is quote,

3442
03:29:46,410 --> 03:29:52,710
complete crap. Oops. That one I
stand. Yeah.

3443
03:29:54,120 --> 03:29:55,830
John C. Dvorak: They skates
gotta be shot.

3444
03:29:57,750 --> 03:30:00,360
Adam Curry: He left and said I
love the firm. I'm truly sorry

3445
03:30:00,360 --> 03:30:07,110
that my words if cause hurt,
hurt, hurt brother, amongst my

3446
03:30:07,110 --> 03:30:11,250
colleagues and for the impact of
the events of this week have had

3447
03:30:11,250 --> 03:30:11,760
on them.

3448
03:30:12,450 --> 03:30:15,000
John C. Dvorak: Well, we're
gonna stay in this vein might as

3449
03:30:15,000 --> 03:30:17,280
well as talking about the
Japanese guy.

3450
03:30:19,980 --> 03:30:21,870
Adam Curry: I don't know about
the Japanese guy.

3451
03:30:22,560 --> 03:30:26,040
John C. Dvorak: He was the one
who said he's in the eye is part

3452
03:30:26,040 --> 03:30:29,670
of the Japanese Olympic
Committee. Oh, I see. Yeah. Oh,

3453
03:30:29,670 --> 03:30:33,780
we can have these women in these
meetings. So they choose yak,

3454
03:30:33,780 --> 03:30:38,550
yak, yak, yak yak. It can't shut
them up. All they do is talk.

3455
03:30:39,180 --> 03:30:40,080
Unknown: Is that what he said?

3456
03:30:41,460 --> 03:30:42,420
John C. Dvorak: More or less.

3457
03:30:42,960 --> 03:30:45,870
Unknown: The president of the
Tokyo Olympic Organizing

3458
03:30:45,870 --> 03:30:50,490
Committee has resigned. Yoshiro
Mori had complained that women

3459
03:30:50,490 --> 03:30:54,900
quote, talk too much in
meetings, more initially refused

3460
03:30:54,900 --> 03:30:58,770
to go by he gave way today under
pressure from the public and

3461
03:30:58,770 --> 03:31:00,240
from Olympic sponsors.

3462
03:31:03,450 --> 03:31:07,920
My inappropriate remarks caused
turmoil. I'm sincerely sorry for

3463
03:31:07,920 --> 03:31:10,710
causing troubles to many
including organizing committees,

3464
03:31:10,860 --> 03:31:14,280
and everyone involved in this as
it has already been reported. I

3465
03:31:14,280 --> 03:31:17,790
will resign today. I have no
intention to demean women

3466
03:31:19,170 --> 03:31:20,220
in the face with

3467
03:31:20,220 --> 03:31:29,490
Adam Curry: the Maduro regime I
got the my pasta Glock locked

3468
03:31:29,490 --> 03:31:33,600
and loaded little guns. I got
one more, you know, to be fair

3469
03:31:33,600 --> 03:31:36,660
to the guy. Women do talk a lot,
let's be honest.

3470
03:31:38,520 --> 03:31:41,010
John C. Dvorak: But you know,
this guy, Steve Becker comic who

3471
03:31:41,010 --> 03:31:45,120
did the Confessions of a
caveman, it was syndicated all

3472
03:31:45,120 --> 03:31:48,000
over the country. All these
different people doing Yes, yes.

3473
03:31:48,030 --> 03:31:52,290
Yes. Very famous. He in in his
act. He talks about the number

3474
03:31:52,290 --> 03:31:56,250
of words per day that a woman
puts out compared to a man. And

3475
03:31:56,250 --> 03:32:00,120
it's really substantially more
it's like a third more 50% more.

3476
03:32:00,900 --> 03:32:04,140
And he said most big most guys
when they run out of material

3477
03:32:04,140 --> 03:32:06,900
because they just can't talk
that much. I think we're the two

3478
03:32:06,900 --> 03:32:11,880
exceptions. But we only do it
twice a week. And my wife has

3479
03:32:11,880 --> 03:32:14,250
said to me or once a while she
calls after the show says you're

3480
03:32:14,250 --> 03:32:18,660
tucked out right? Yeah, pretty
much. Well, that's what guys do.

3481
03:32:18,690 --> 03:32:19,020
Well, it's

3482
03:32:19,350 --> 03:32:23,280
Adam Curry: worse with me. It's
like, oh, yeah, I'm tucked out

3483
03:32:23,280 --> 03:32:26,070
but then don't challenge me on
anything. Because I'm still in

3484
03:32:26,070 --> 03:32:32,130
Show mode. Oh, yeah. I have to
say sorry. We had to. We had our

3485
03:32:32,130 --> 03:32:39,270
teacher over last Thursday. The
Austin teacher and bow she was

3486
03:32:39,270 --> 03:32:42,690
just going on about something.
You know, it's like, Trump is

3487
03:32:42,690 --> 03:32:45,540
scared when you were in Show
mode. I was in Show mode. And I

3488
03:32:45,540 --> 03:32:52,590
and I, and I think Tina gave me
that distinct you want me? And I

3489
03:32:52,590 --> 03:32:55,800
said I'm sorry. I'm still show
mode. Yeah, you gotta be careful

3490
03:32:55,800 --> 03:32:56,190
with that.

3491
03:32:57,600 --> 03:33:00,480
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, this
one now this is the baffling

3492
03:33:01,260 --> 03:33:05,880
cancel thing. Because why didn't
this guy get fired? Why didn't

3493
03:33:05,880 --> 03:33:10,080
he quit? I mean, if the Japanese
guys just made the comment about

3494
03:33:10,080 --> 03:33:13,500
women talking to Oh, he didn't
get fired. He just he resigned.

3495
03:33:14,010 --> 03:33:17,100
You know IOC guy did but this
guy didn't get fired or quit.

3496
03:33:17,100 --> 03:33:21,330
This is the Press Corp guy this
duck low A Biden? Oh, yes. Back

3497
03:33:21,330 --> 03:33:23,880
Unknown: in this country. A
White House press aide was

3498
03:33:23,880 --> 03:33:28,050
suspended for a week without pay
for threatening a journalist.

3499
03:33:28,350 --> 03:33:32,820
Deputy Press Secretary TJ duck
low reportedly confronted a

3500
03:33:32,820 --> 03:33:38,160
female staffer at politico in
sexist profane terms. She had

3501
03:33:38,160 --> 03:33:41,460
written about duck close
relationship with a reporter who

3502
03:33:41,460 --> 03:33:45,030
covered the Biden campaign and
transition.

3503
03:33:45,570 --> 03:33:48,060
Adam Curry: He did he issued a
statement would you like to hear

3504
03:33:48,060 --> 03:33:48,330
it?

3505
03:33:48,780 --> 03:33:49,560
John C. Dvorak: I'd love to

3506
03:33:52,410 --> 03:33:55,980
Adam Curry: how should I read it
as a weenie boy or just?

3507
03:33:56,369 --> 03:33:58,529
John C. Dvorak: This is a good
question. i We are now ready to

3508
03:33:58,529 --> 03:34:03,629
direction part of this. Okay. I
would I think you should read it

3509
03:34:03,629 --> 03:34:06,179
as an arrogant. Oh,

3510
03:34:06,240 --> 03:34:17,250
Adam Curry: okay. Arrogant.
Hello? Yeah. Arrogant what?

3511
03:34:17,760 --> 03:34:19,920
John C. Dvorak: East Coast
liberal who can do no wrong

3512
03:34:19,920 --> 03:34:23,940
probably. Ivy League. Wow, quite
tight on a little bit through

3513
03:34:23,940 --> 03:34:25,080
your teeth. Can you do that

3514
03:34:25,110 --> 03:34:28,890
Adam Curry: no words can express
my regret, my embarrassment and

3515
03:34:28,890 --> 03:34:33,330
my disgust or my behavior. I
used language that no woman

3516
03:34:33,330 --> 03:34:36,150
should ever have to hear from
anyone, especially in a

3517
03:34:36,150 --> 03:34:40,110
situation where she was just
trying to do her job. It was

3518
03:34:40,110 --> 03:34:44,310
language that was abhorrent,
disrespectful and unacceptable.

3519
03:34:44,610 --> 03:34:47,700
I am devastated to have
embarrassed and disappointed my

3520
03:34:47,700 --> 03:34:50,910
White House colleagues and
President Biden. And after

3521
03:34:50,910 --> 03:34:53,310
discussing with White House
Communications leadership

3522
03:34:53,310 --> 03:34:56,430
tonight, I resigned my position
and will not be returning from

3523
03:34:56,430 --> 03:35:00,180
administrative leave. I know
this was terrible. I know. I

3524
03:35:00,180 --> 03:35:03,300
can't take it back. But I also
know I can learn from and do

3525
03:35:03,300 --> 03:35:06,690
better. This incident is not
representative of who I am as a

3526
03:35:06,690 --> 03:35:09,720
person, and I will be determined
to earn back the trust of

3527
03:35:09,720 --> 03:35:12,510
everyone. I have let down
because of my intolerable

3528
03:35:12,510 --> 03:35:18,630
actions as I now launched my
podcast. Didn't say no, it

3529
03:35:18,630 --> 03:35:23,760
didn't say podcast. So he did he
had to grovel. What the heck did

3530
03:35:23,760 --> 03:35:24,450
he scrambled

3531
03:35:24,450 --> 03:35:25,920
John C. Dvorak: that was pretty
good. I think your voice is

3532
03:35:25,920 --> 03:35:29,370
probably better if it turned
into kind of a wishy washy kind

3533
03:35:29,370 --> 03:35:29,610
of a

3534
03:35:30,180 --> 03:35:32,190
Adam Curry: deal. My teeth were
clacking I was trying to talk

3535
03:35:32,190 --> 03:35:33,540
through the teeth and they were
clocking

3536
03:35:33,570 --> 03:35:35,580
John C. Dvorak: we were talking
to your teeth not that easy.

3537
03:35:35,610 --> 03:35:36,600
Okay, no words can

3538
03:35:36,600 --> 03:35:39,450
Adam Curry: express my regret.
become so

3539
03:35:40,380 --> 03:35:42,390
John C. Dvorak: we I think
playing it more as a weenie

3540
03:35:42,390 --> 03:35:47,310
wormy guy. Lame ball and can I
be better age? Maybe not him,

3541
03:35:47,310 --> 03:35:47,730
but it made

3542
03:35:47,730 --> 03:35:52,290
Adam Curry: me like slow Well,
it's nowhere. Right? Yeah, yeah.

3543
03:35:52,290 --> 03:35:54,480
Okay. Well, I'll work on I'll
work on my Swalwell.

3544
03:35:55,980 --> 03:35:56,760
John C. Dvorak: Swallow as well.

3545
03:35:57,900 --> 03:36:01,440
Adam Curry: But he did he
grovelled. And he will be back.

3546
03:36:02,370 --> 03:36:04,950
He said it right there. I
determined to earn back the

3547
03:36:04,950 --> 03:36:06,210
trust of everyone. He

3548
03:36:06,600 --> 03:36:09,270
John C. Dvorak: decided to take
it to the week's free pay as

3549
03:36:09,270 --> 03:36:09,810
administrator.

3550
03:36:10,260 --> 03:36:13,950
Adam Curry: How does he break
trust? Just because he yelled at

3551
03:36:13,950 --> 03:36:16,260
somebody. But trust

3552
03:36:16,470 --> 03:36:20,460
John C. Dvorak: because he's not
acting like a good role boy,

3553
03:36:20,490 --> 03:36:24,270
appropriately. He's not right.
He's not acting appropriately.

3554
03:36:24,510 --> 03:36:27,600
And they trust him that he they
trust that he would have

3555
03:36:27,840 --> 03:36:31,890
normally acted appropriately.
And not be hurtful. He was

3556
03:36:31,890 --> 03:36:32,580
hurtful.

3557
03:36:33,870 --> 03:36:37,620
Adam Curry: And who was the Who
Was he having the thing that

3558
03:36:37,620 --> 03:36:42,540
kills me? There's so many people
who are married to people in

3559
03:36:42,540 --> 03:36:46,500
news agencies who were who it's
outrageous in in government and

3560
03:36:46,500 --> 03:36:48,960
certainly the Obama White House
was filled

3561
03:36:50,130 --> 03:36:51,720
John C. Dvorak: with people,
everybody.

3562
03:36:52,710 --> 03:36:57,300
Adam Curry: And so and, and to
be honest, what's this guy's

3563
03:36:57,300 --> 03:36:59,730
name? TJ she wasn't she wasn't
worth it, bro.

3564
03:37:00,420 --> 03:37:03,180
Unknown: I'm gonna show my mood
by donating to no agenda.

3565
03:37:03,270 --> 03:37:06,360
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

3566
03:37:06,360 --> 03:37:07,440
for sex as much.

3567
03:37:10,590 --> 03:37:11,340
Adam Curry: Doing my best.

3568
03:37:13,740 --> 03:37:16,650
John C. Dvorak: We do our part.
A lot of people do their part by

3569
03:37:16,650 --> 03:37:19,380
donating to the show and we had
to thank each one each one of

3570
03:37:19,380 --> 03:37:23,010
them over $50 Starting with Ben
Martell. in Maple Valley.

3571
03:37:23,010 --> 03:37:30,090
Washington came in $102.14 and
he does have a he has a deducing

3572
03:37:30,120 --> 03:37:31,350
needed we got

3573
03:37:33,390 --> 03:37:34,530
Unknown: bandied do

3574
03:37:36,150 --> 03:37:38,220
John C. Dvorak: and he got
listed he's got his Chris on

3575
03:37:38,220 --> 03:37:41,280
there for birthday on
Valentine's Day. Sure. Do makes

3576
03:37:41,280 --> 03:37:44,010
a good point. By the way poor
bastards birthdays on

3577
03:37:44,010 --> 03:37:46,050
Valentine's Day. Yeah,

3578
03:37:46,650 --> 03:37:48,300
Adam Curry: that's not all that
bad. I mean,

3579
03:37:49,500 --> 03:37:51,420
John C. Dvorak: if you're a
woman is probably fantastic.

3580
03:37:51,570 --> 03:37:55,650
Ashley Bran in Inez Texas.

3581
03:37:56,100 --> 03:37:57,060
Adam Curry: Yeah, probably.

3582
03:37:58,950 --> 03:38:02,610
John C. Dvorak: Also a birthday
$100. Lord, by the way, this is

3583
03:38:02,610 --> 03:38:05,520
going to be his fairly short
list so we can get this over

3584
03:38:05,520 --> 03:38:10,230
with and wrap. Laura Lee Ryan in
Statesville, North Carolina $100

3585
03:38:10,230 --> 03:38:15,810
Deborah Bradley and Trimble
Missouri $100 and says Happy

3586
03:38:15,810 --> 03:38:21,450
Valentine's Day to us. She wants
some job karma. We'll give it to

3587
03:38:21,450 --> 03:38:29,160
you at the end. Deborah Quinton,
proud and nine amo BC Nanaimo.

3588
03:38:29,160 --> 03:38:34,320
Sorry, I know how to pronounce
it Nanaimo. BC $100 Rene lebay

3589
03:38:34,350 --> 03:38:39,630
in Santa Monica, California.
Adam. Brink in Seaside or that

3590
03:38:39,630 --> 03:38:39,840
was

3591
03:38:39,870 --> 03:38:42,150
Adam Curry: by the way
Valentine's for his smokin hot

3592
03:38:42,150 --> 03:38:43,530
wife brandy rink.

3593
03:38:43,920 --> 03:38:49,860
John C. Dvorak: Thank you. Ian
coming in the bay Batum rink in

3594
03:38:49,860 --> 03:38:55,980
Seaside Oregon 808 and other
Valentine's yeah for brandy. In

3595
03:38:56,010 --> 03:39:01,380
Keyon Cummings in Starkville,
Mississippi 75 We got a

3596
03:39:01,380 --> 03:39:04,890
Valentine is there no sir
alignment of the net and Anna

3597
03:39:04,890 --> 03:39:08,940
Eleanor Illinois 6969 happen
Happy Valentine's Day to my

3598
03:39:08,940 --> 03:39:14,250
smokin hot wife Robin, Lady lady
Columbia South Carolina we

3599
03:39:14,250 --> 03:39:16,530
Adam Curry: have a note that she
sent to us that we're supposed

3600
03:39:16,530 --> 03:39:17,760
to read any lady that she

3601
03:39:17,760 --> 03:39:19,680
John C. Dvorak: says always says
a little note this is uses

3602
03:39:19,680 --> 03:39:21,480
Schweetz note just to say hi I

3603
03:39:21,480 --> 03:39:24,120
Adam Curry: got it here Forgive
me pod father for I've seen my

3604
03:39:24,120 --> 03:39:27,000
last jingle request contain too
many jingles please accept this

3605
03:39:27,000 --> 03:39:30,720
donation as my penance lady
Lottie dot not necessary, but

3606
03:39:30,720 --> 03:39:31,620
thank you very much.

3607
03:39:32,280 --> 03:39:35,190
John C. Dvorak: We hope but
highly appreciate it always. Sir

3608
03:39:35,190 --> 03:39:43,770
bebop 5678 Jennifer Sayer 5678.
Happy Valentine's Day Jen.

3609
03:39:45,150 --> 03:39:51,600
Christopher dektor. in Richland,
Washington. Did 5678 John

3610
03:39:51,600 --> 03:39:55,980
Manziel Pulido plant,

3611
03:39:56,220 --> 03:39:59,280
Adam Curry: Bernard Boehner
first donation is suggested by

3612
03:39:59,280 --> 03:40:05,760
my smoker out wife Rebecca Happy
Valentine's Day. Deed deuced on

3613
03:40:05,760 --> 03:40:07,350
requested but it's necessary.

3614
03:40:08,639 --> 03:40:13,019
John C. Dvorak: When that was
$52.14 Theresa start Haim and

3615
03:40:13,019 --> 03:40:17,489
Plymouth Minnesota 5150 D
douching. Dose you've been

3616
03:40:17,489 --> 03:40:17,759
listening

3617
03:40:17,760 --> 03:40:21,570
Adam Curry: for about a month.
You You've been deemed ready on

3618
03:40:21,570 --> 03:40:23,700
the value train Thank you very
much.

3619
03:40:24,660 --> 03:40:26,790
John C. Dvorak: Are there Breuer
5101 from Madisonville,

3620
03:40:26,790 --> 03:40:30,300
Tennessee and he says his Adam
Curry's wild mink adoption fund

3621
03:40:30,300 --> 03:40:31,560
save the main cause that's

3622
03:40:31,590 --> 03:40:34,350
Adam Curry: that now you know,
that is what we need. Hello, no

3623
03:40:34,350 --> 03:40:38,430
agenda shop. I'm seeing a t
shirt with a mink with its eyes

3624
03:40:38,430 --> 03:40:42,810
bulging out COVID oozing out of
it with a big save the mink.

3625
03:40:45,120 --> 03:40:50,130
John C. Dvorak: And curiously,
Alex is related I'm sure to our

3626
03:40:50,130 --> 03:40:56,100
sir Bula also do $1 says donator
Adam Curry's wild mink adoption

3627
03:40:56,100 --> 03:40:59,820
funds save the main you guys
should spread it out in

3628
03:40:59,820 --> 03:41:04,380
different donations. Oh funny.
Michael Berlin in Odessa,

3629
03:41:04,380 --> 03:41:07,680
Florida 50 These are all $50
donors so rapid name and

3630
03:41:07,680 --> 03:41:13,110
location Fabio Alvarez in Monix.
Corner South Carolina. George

3631
03:41:13,110 --> 03:41:17,910
will check in Universal City
Texas he's at night, Sir George

3632
03:41:17,910 --> 03:41:23,310
I believe Heather Latta in
Effingham, Effingham, you

3633
03:41:23,340 --> 03:41:24,000
Illinois

3634
03:41:24,029 --> 03:41:25,769
Adam Curry: Happy birthday to
the best boyfriend in the

3635
03:41:25,769 --> 03:41:28,019
universe or Marty Williamson on
the list.

3636
03:41:29,040 --> 03:41:31,560
John C. Dvorak: Per Diem
Patricia Worthington comes in as

3637
03:41:31,560 --> 03:41:34,680
usual from Miami, sir Bucha

3638
03:41:34,770 --> 03:41:40,140
Adam Curry: it worked. Sir Bucha
Yes, this is an apology donation

3639
03:41:40,500 --> 03:41:45,270
as he harshly used his hearing
privilege on me remember? Ah,

3640
03:41:45,270 --> 03:41:49,710
yes, it weren't John. Shaming
works.

3641
03:41:50,130 --> 03:41:53,280
John C. Dvorak: Shaming does
work. Brian Henderson and he's

3642
03:41:53,280 --> 03:41:57,060
in north Wales, Pennsylvania,
sir Bucha Brian Henderson in

3643
03:41:57,060 --> 03:42:01,770
Indianapolis, Indiana Nellie
gross Bucher in a Mesa Arizona.

3644
03:42:02,460 --> 03:42:06,360
Tony Smith in Fort Worth, Texas,
Brandon Savoie in Port orchard,

3645
03:42:06,360 --> 03:42:10,290
Washington. And last but not no,
not last but not least, and even

3646
03:42:10,290 --> 03:42:14,670
close to Zachary brossette in
Olathe, Kansas. That could be

3647
03:42:14,670 --> 03:42:17,910
Brissett. And he's got started
to say there that Oh, Happy

3648
03:42:17,910 --> 03:42:21,780
Valentine's Day to my scholarly
sublime wife, mother to our

3649
03:42:21,780 --> 03:42:25,770
three human resources, and
grandmother to two human grand

3650
03:42:25,770 --> 03:42:32,370
resources. Okay. Robert, Sir
Robert Kerr back in Essex Ville,

3651
03:42:32,640 --> 03:42:38,520
Illinois, or Michigan, I'm
sorry. And Boris de Groot. You

3652
03:42:38,520 --> 03:42:40,260
want to look that over as we
hold on you missed?

3653
03:42:40,289 --> 03:42:42,989
Adam Curry: You missed Aubrey
Smith and probably scroll scroll

3654
03:42:42,989 --> 03:42:47,189
by $50 from Vancouver, she got a
long note. Which I did read her

3655
03:42:47,189 --> 03:42:49,709
note. Yes, she started listening
in September after the second

3656
03:42:49,709 --> 03:42:52,079
Rogen appearance. And she
figured she would donate

3657
03:42:52,079 --> 03:42:54,329
eventually when the time is
right that time has come because

3658
03:42:54,329 --> 03:42:56,489
I have information to share with
you about Bonnie Henry, the

3659
03:42:56,489 --> 03:43:00,449
provincial health officer for
British Columbia. Yes, thank you

3660
03:43:00,449 --> 03:43:03,269
RBS. Very good information and
we shall act upon it.

3661
03:43:05,010 --> 03:43:08,700
John C. Dvorak: Before we go
finish, yes. Before we finish, I

3662
03:43:08,700 --> 03:43:11,100
do have to make an announcement
which is we get to the end it

3663
03:43:11,100 --> 03:43:15,000
actually let me get to the end
and make the announcement. Right

3664
03:43:15,000 --> 03:43:17,580
Boris? Degroot in pleasing Okay.

3665
03:43:17,610 --> 03:43:21,060
Adam Curry: Okay. Borders, the
growth in housing. And Rob bars

3666
03:43:21,060 --> 03:43:21,660
de Groot

3667
03:43:21,720 --> 03:43:23,670
John C. Dvorak: in house and I
knew it I know how to pronounce

3668
03:43:23,670 --> 03:43:28,710
it. Okay, Chris Christie Lee,
loyal life a few dollars and she

3669
03:43:28,710 --> 03:43:31,380
has a nice note. It's
Valentine's gift for her

3670
03:43:31,410 --> 03:43:35,610
surprise for her boyfriend,
Rick. Oh, she's calling out Rick

3671
03:43:35,610 --> 03:43:38,400
for a Valentine's for surprise.
He loves listening to you guys

3672
03:43:38,400 --> 03:43:42,600
listens weekly. Again. Another
person only listens to weekly.

3673
03:43:42,780 --> 03:43:45,720
Listening to your show with him
really opens up my thinking to

3674
03:43:45,720 --> 03:43:48,420
what's really going on in the
world with media, news, politics

3675
03:43:48,420 --> 03:43:50,730
and everything else. That's
crazy. You guys are great.

3676
03:43:51,690 --> 03:43:54,450
Hopefully he gets to hear you
guys today. He's at a medical

3677
03:43:54,450 --> 03:43:58,650
conference. They probably won't
then. Oh, Happy Birthday Dr. Dr.

3678
03:43:58,650 --> 03:43:59,130
Lang.

3679
03:43:59,190 --> 03:44:01,830
Adam Curry: Oh, he's not happy
Valentine's Day. Dr. Lang.

3680
03:44:01,980 --> 03:44:03,750
John C. Dvorak: I'm sorry. Happy
Valentine's Day. What am I

3681
03:44:03,750 --> 03:44:07,530
thinking? Wendy Brahmin, in
Saginaw, Michigan, Sir Jerry

3682
03:44:07,530 --> 03:44:11,790
ring and ring and Roth and
Saugus, California answers but

3683
03:44:11,790 --> 03:44:15,030
the mighty in Marietta, Georgia.
And the announcement goes to and

3684
03:44:15,030 --> 03:44:18,810
I have to say I'll give them
credit for this. A $50.19

3685
03:44:18,810 --> 03:44:21,000
donation which not on here
because I went straight to the

3686
03:44:21,000 --> 03:44:26,430
bank from Keith lowset. Who said
bull crap. I can get a Zell

3687
03:44:26,430 --> 03:44:30,540
donation to go through you
watch. And it did and he did.

3688
03:44:30,570 --> 03:44:35,850
Wow. Now this is the second Zell
donation that somehow gotten

3689
03:44:35,850 --> 03:44:39,270
into the bank. Neither one of
these guys so far has told me

3690
03:44:39,270 --> 03:44:42,810
how they've managed it because
our bank doesn't accept Zell but

3691
03:44:42,810 --> 03:44:44,100
yet there it is.

3692
03:44:44,160 --> 03:44:45,450
Adam Curry: It's better than
Bitcoin.

3693
03:44:48,900 --> 03:44:53,190
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And that's
concludes our list of producers

3694
03:44:53,190 --> 03:44:56,220
for show 1321 Thank you each and
every one of them.

3695
03:44:56,940 --> 03:45:02,670
Adam Curry: Thank you all so
much. Are Purdue users you

3696
03:45:02,670 --> 03:45:06,660
really are knocking out of the
park and is highly appreciated.

3697
03:45:06,930 --> 03:45:09,420
This is a good start to the year
and we know we're going to have

3698
03:45:09,420 --> 03:45:13,620
quite the doozy I think we have
quite the doozy and thank you to

3699
03:45:13,620 --> 03:45:18,090
everyone who came in under $50
for anonymity anonyme an entity

3700
03:45:18,090 --> 03:45:22,110
Menominee purposes, or just to
be on one of those many programs

3701
03:45:22,110 --> 03:45:24,930
that we have, where you can
subscribe do something weekly.

3702
03:45:24,960 --> 03:45:27,870
You know, if you're listening to
the show only weekly, like two

3703
03:45:27,870 --> 03:45:30,900
people so far, and then just
donate once weekly. You don't

3704
03:45:30,900 --> 03:45:33,000
have to do it, do it twice and
get on one of the programs to

3705
03:45:33,000 --> 03:45:34,230
find out more about it go to

3706
03:45:34,260 --> 03:45:37,500
Unknown: vote.org/and Thank

3707
03:45:37,500 --> 03:45:39,150
Adam Curry: you again for your
time, your talent and your

3708
03:45:39,150 --> 03:45:40,890
treasure jobs as requested.

3709
03:45:41,130 --> 03:45:48,240
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for jobs are mine.

3710
03:45:56,640 --> 03:46:00,360
Adam Curry: A bit of an aversion
really that we got more Knights

3711
03:46:00,360 --> 03:46:03,060
and Dames and birthdays to see
first to make good for Sarah

3712
03:46:03,060 --> 03:46:08,190
Colbert 5555 on Thursday show to
add Jacob to the birthday list

3713
03:46:08,190 --> 03:46:11,100
John but his name off but he
wasn't on the list. He was but I

3714
03:46:11,100 --> 03:46:14,520
call them adjacent for some
reason. Apologies. also

3715
03:46:14,520 --> 03:46:17,370
celebrating yesterday Sammy
weeks says Happy Birthday to

3716
03:46:17,370 --> 03:46:20,760
John back to center and 34
Yesterday. Anonymous rancher

3717
03:46:20,760 --> 03:46:23,640
Happy Birthday Mrs. Anonymous
rancher also celebrated

3718
03:46:23,640 --> 03:46:26,790
yesterday, Lisa Stelter, it's
her birthday today. Trevor

3719
03:46:26,790 --> 03:46:29,490
Massey Happy Birthday to his
smokin hot wife, Dean Valentine

3720
03:46:29,490 --> 03:46:33,570
of the bluebird Potter region
again today. Chris in Portland

3721
03:46:33,570 --> 03:46:36,990
is a little brother of Ben
Bartell who says Happy birthday

3722
03:46:36,990 --> 03:46:40,050
to him two days Sir Thomas,
happy birthday to your wife,

3723
03:46:40,110 --> 03:46:43,860
Sharon. She celebrates tomorrow
as does Michael Woodall, Heidi

3724
03:46:43,860 --> 03:46:47,010
Roberts Happy Birthday to her
son, Shawn Roberts to be 34 on

3725
03:46:47,010 --> 03:46:51,150
the 16th Ashley Byron, her
smokin hot husband Travis and

3726
03:46:51,150 --> 03:46:54,120
Heather Lada says Happy Birthday
to the best boyfriend in the

3727
03:46:54,120 --> 03:46:56,790
university and Monty Williams
and happy birthday from

3728
03:46:56,790 --> 03:47:03,990
everybody he had the best
podcast in the universe breathe

3729
03:47:03,990 --> 03:47:04,530
There we go.

3730
03:47:06,570 --> 03:47:08,670
John C. Dvorak: Oh, I got I
gotta make your change here

3731
03:47:08,670 --> 03:47:09,480
before you finish

3732
03:47:10,350 --> 03:47:11,910
Adam Curry: the regarding
Knights and Dames because I'm

3733
03:47:11,910 --> 03:47:13,410
ready to go. Okay,

3734
03:47:13,740 --> 03:47:17,040
John C. Dvorak: game Lisa wants
to be Dame Lisa straggler of

3735
03:47:17,040 --> 03:47:18,120
universes.

3736
03:47:19,110 --> 03:47:23,760
Adam Curry: straggler of
universes? Well, that will

3737
03:47:23,760 --> 03:47:27,420
require quite some blades. So
you better hand it over. I got

3738
03:47:27,420 --> 03:47:29,490
John C. Dvorak: one here. Yeah,

3739
03:47:29,520 --> 03:47:33,870
Adam Curry: that's a nice one
with a curve. Up on the podium

3740
03:47:33,870 --> 03:47:38,910
brand drew Scott season. Gray
Michael reordan Demetri seven

3741
03:47:38,910 --> 03:47:43,470
St. Sara Gonzales Rolando
Gonzalez Alex trap Martin

3742
03:47:43,470 --> 03:47:47,100
Wallach, Chris Hubbard, Sharon
Heil Eric Ross and Lisa Stelter,

3743
03:47:47,100 --> 03:47:51,450
all of you who don't have enough
chairs all of you join the

3744
03:47:51,450 --> 03:47:54,330
roundtable today so I'm very
proud to pronounce the date the

3745
03:47:54,570 --> 03:47:58,080
SIR Mike attic sir gray of the
order of the dudes named Ben sir

3746
03:47:58,080 --> 03:48:02,580
Mike sir Sebastiana name Sarah
of the floodplain housing

3747
03:48:02,580 --> 03:48:07,680
service on Sir eco instant Sir
Martin of the Vala sir GM

3748
03:48:08,490 --> 03:48:12,540
Odysseus Dame shared at the
hilltop garden sir Bouchard,

3749
03:48:12,540 --> 03:48:15,990
Dean night of the freedom
fighters more music boys, we

3750
03:48:15,990 --> 03:48:21,660
some more. There we go. And Lisa
Stelter becomes Dame Lisa

3751
03:48:21,690 --> 03:48:26,040
straggler of the Universe There
we go, all right, get to tears

3752
03:48:26,040 --> 03:48:28,740
gather around we got everything
for you got the hookers to blow

3753
03:48:28,740 --> 03:48:32,070
the rent boys the Chardonnay the
vintage you 47 Careful of the

3754
03:48:32,070 --> 03:48:35,790
two crystal head vodka with
pickles and some hash chocolate

3755
03:48:35,790 --> 03:48:39,120
pres let cheese and cold brew
freedom and friendships suck and

3756
03:48:39,120 --> 03:48:42,990
sushi igloos and Hawaiian
shirts. And we've gotten more

3757
03:48:43,020 --> 03:48:46,110
classics kebab and Persian wine
Rubenesque Reuben and Rosie

3758
03:48:46,110 --> 03:48:48,750
geishas and sock a buck and
vanilla bong hits and bourbon

3759
03:48:48,750 --> 03:48:51,930
sparkling cider Ness words
ginger ale and turbos, breast

3760
03:48:51,930 --> 03:49:01,620
milk and Kabam colas, potato
vodka and as always and that's

3761
03:49:01,680 --> 03:49:07,290
the will be yours including your
rings and your ceiling wax your

3762
03:49:07,290 --> 03:49:09,930
certificate of authenticity. If
you go to no agenda

3763
03:49:09,930 --> 03:49:14,250
nation.com/rings Eric Xu is
waiting for you there and he's a

3764
03:49:14,280 --> 03:49:17,280
he's like the greeter at
Walmart. Going to help you hook

3765
03:49:17,280 --> 03:49:21,180
you up with your ring and
certification again,

3766
03:49:21,180 --> 03:49:24,450
congratulations and thank you
for supporting the no agenda

3767
03:49:24,450 --> 03:49:28,590
show not for nothing. The best
podcast in the universe. No one

3768
03:49:34,800 --> 03:49:39,630
no agenda meetups raged around
the country. snow, sleet, rain

3769
03:49:39,630 --> 03:49:42,990
so we almost always on except in
Texas. We weren't used to that.

3770
03:49:43,200 --> 03:49:47,970
Here's a report we got from me
see where this report come from?

3771
03:49:48,240 --> 03:49:51,480
Oh, this is Nashville. Come on
in Nashville.

3772
03:49:51,509 --> 03:49:56,399
Unknown: This is the no agenda
meetup report from February 9 at

3773
03:49:56,609 --> 03:50:00,179
Nashville, Tennessee smoking
thighs the little Fauci we He's

3774
03:50:00,179 --> 03:50:03,449
made it up, where the organizer
did not show up. This is Philip

3775
03:50:03,449 --> 03:50:07,469
Welsh, who's been listening to
the show since Adam was eating

3776
03:50:07,499 --> 03:50:08,819
off of his plane.

3777
03:50:09,060 --> 03:50:14,070
Oh, hey, this is Shane Scalise
and I'm a newbie to the show.

3778
03:50:14,490 --> 03:50:20,850
But it looks like fun sounds
like fun is this soon to be Dame

3779
03:50:20,850 --> 03:50:24,180
fatty from the estate section of
Melrose? And

3780
03:50:29,130 --> 03:50:30,870
Adam Curry: I'd like to just
pick somebody up was like, Yeah,

3781
03:50:30,870 --> 03:50:35,550
I love the show, I think soon.
Give me another drink. If you go

3782
03:50:35,550 --> 03:50:37,980
to no agenda meetup.com this is
these are important. This is

3783
03:50:37,980 --> 03:50:40,350
good for your brain. It's good
for your soul. It's good for

3784
03:50:40,350 --> 03:50:44,940
your just good for you. Because
you are guaranteed a safe fun

3785
03:50:44,940 --> 03:50:47,730
time, no triggering talk about
whatever you want to know. It's

3786
03:50:47,730 --> 03:50:51,150
gonna get all crazy. And that's
what the meetups are all about.

3787
03:50:51,150 --> 03:50:54,630
And you can organize it for
yourself. And in fact, on

3788
03:50:54,630 --> 03:50:58,620
Tuesday, you can go check out
the Nashville and a little Fauci

3789
03:50:58,620 --> 03:51:03,030
wheeze Fans Club. Wow, so
they're gonna do that. Maybe it

3790
03:51:03,030 --> 03:51:07,500
was moved because this was the
Nashville drum. It's just a do

3791
03:51:07,500 --> 03:51:10,110
over I'm not sure. Anyway,
that'll be at smokin thighs.

3792
03:51:10,170 --> 03:51:14,550
That's chicken. On Wednesday,
the Houston lock pickers meet up

3793
03:51:14,550 --> 03:51:19,410
at 630 at drifts. And coming up
this month the 20th backwater

3794
03:51:19,410 --> 03:51:22,500
Wisconsin Springfield Missouri
super spreader event Houston

3795
03:51:22,500 --> 03:51:25,650
raging super spreader lunch in
Nashville mandatory producers

3796
03:51:25,650 --> 03:51:30,030
meeting flight Oh 12 with the no
agenda, agora Hills, California

3797
03:51:30,060 --> 03:51:36,090
and then no agenda 512. Local at
Sunset Valley that is a do over

3798
03:51:36,420 --> 03:51:40,710
that's just on the 20th on the
21st the mediocre reset

3799
03:51:40,770 --> 03:51:45,090
commission Adelaide that's down
under the 25th Houston tabletop

3800
03:51:45,090 --> 03:51:50,250
games also Charlotte North
Carolina, the 26th Colorado 719

3801
03:51:50,250 --> 03:51:54,150
Local inaugural Brisbane Aziz
shots in the arm slave meetup

3802
03:51:54,150 --> 03:51:58,110
also on the 26th and then the
27th Big Island protest against

3803
03:51:58,110 --> 03:52:01,680
not having fun in Hawaii. The
super spreader Task Force rally

3804
03:52:01,680 --> 03:52:04,590
in southeastern Wisconsin Dallas
fly fishing meet up for the

3805
03:52:04,590 --> 03:52:08,910
first 22 Contact the organizer
and finally for February on the

3806
03:52:08,910 --> 03:52:11,760
27th the state of Jefferson and
that will be in Redding

3807
03:52:11,760 --> 03:52:14,760
California. No agenda meetups
they're great there's lots of

3808
03:52:14,760 --> 03:52:18,270
them if by some crazy reason you
can't find with new you just

3809
03:52:18,270 --> 03:52:22,110
start one go to no agenda
meetups.com It's like a party

3810
03:52:22,650 --> 03:52:36,840
sometimes you all day you will
be triggered you will be buddy

3811
03:52:36,840 --> 03:52:43,890
feels the same it's like the
only thing we did two things we

3812
03:52:43,890 --> 03:52:47,910
didn't do which we can still
rectify one

3813
03:52:47,939 --> 03:52:50,969
John C. Dvorak: well you ISO and
as is the Xin

3814
03:52:51,179 --> 03:52:53,399
Adam Curry: yes that was the
other one but the ISO and to

3815
03:52:53,399 --> 03:52:55,769
show ISO oh I don't have any.

3816
03:52:55,890 --> 03:52:58,020
John C. Dvorak: You got nothing.
Now guys, if

3817
03:52:58,080 --> 03:52:58,770
Adam Curry: you see what I have,

3818
03:52:58,800 --> 03:53:02,160
Unknown: he beat the bejesus out
of somebody got that one.

3819
03:53:03,630 --> 03:53:09,450
Adam Curry: I have I google disk
for you. Got that beautiful.

3820
03:53:10,230 --> 03:53:14,100
That's the one right? But you
would like that. Yes. Xena. I

3821
03:53:14,100 --> 03:53:17,100
think we should we can start it
but we should save this for a

3822
03:53:17,100 --> 03:53:17,970
while. I'm okay

3823
03:53:17,970 --> 03:53:20,760
John C. Dvorak: I want to read
did I read the PS? This did come

3824
03:53:20,760 --> 03:53:25,680
from Lisa Stelter. Okay game of
the universe or whatever

3825
03:53:25,710 --> 03:53:28,860
fragmenting, you know, jumping
the straddle or she's a straddle

3826
03:53:28,860 --> 03:53:31,410
or strangle she's just trying to
also thank you for the analysis

3827
03:53:31,410 --> 03:53:35,910
about Zen debunking almost all
the homeschoolers I know use the

3828
03:53:35,910 --> 03:53:40,980
Zen books to teach your kids
history. They rattle

3829
03:53:41,010 --> 03:53:44,940
radicalizing their kids by this
subtle propaganda. Yes, this

3830
03:53:44,940 --> 03:53:49,410
concerns me because I'd like to
express expose my kids to a wide

3831
03:53:49,410 --> 03:53:53,040
variety of views. And it seems
extremely biased from what I can

3832
03:53:53,040 --> 03:53:59,100
tell. My acquaintances viewed
the Zin books as a revelation

3833
03:53:59,340 --> 03:54:04,530
and an antidote to traditional
school history class. Oh, no.

3834
03:54:05,520 --> 03:54:06,780
An antidote.

3835
03:54:06,840 --> 03:54:07,980
Adam Curry: This is not good.

3836
03:54:08,550 --> 03:54:11,790
John C. Dvorak: Now these people
get suckered by, by this is.

3837
03:54:14,400 --> 03:54:17,940
Yeah, I know. It's just annoying
as hell that people can't get a

3838
03:54:17,940 --> 03:54:24,510
clue. Yes. And I was so we'll
talk about this more in the next

3839
03:54:24,510 --> 03:54:26,340
show. Even though you teased it.

3840
03:54:27,870 --> 03:54:31,440
Adam Curry: I may add to your
T's how about this kind of add

3841
03:54:31,440 --> 03:54:35,820
to your teeth? It's not my
teeth. Your teeth. You just you

3842
03:54:35,820 --> 03:54:39,450
just read a tease. That was a
tease now. Okay. Okay. I'm going

3843
03:54:39,450 --> 03:54:44,760
to I'm going to tease it with a
note that irked me. This is from

3844
03:54:44,760 --> 03:54:48,810
McGraw Hill. And it's no it's
about Xin. And this is how it

3845
03:54:48,810 --> 03:54:52,800
starts off. You know, one of the
things I don't like of the show

3846
03:54:53,100 --> 03:54:56,580
is how you reduce everyone on
the left to the moniker of

3847
03:54:56,580 --> 03:55:00,000
communist just like the left
does to the right by calling

3848
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:01,560
Everyone a fascist

3849
03:55:02,220 --> 03:55:04,050
John C. Dvorak: Xena is a
communist. He was a member of

3850
03:55:04,050 --> 03:55:05,220
the Communist Party.

3851
03:55:05,370 --> 03:55:07,500
Adam Curry: If you I'm gonna
continue if you read the

3852
03:55:07,500 --> 03:55:12,360
Wikipedia page, there's your red
flag on Howard Zinn it clearly

3853
03:55:12,360 --> 03:55:15,360
says that he is not a communist

3854
03:55:16,560 --> 03:55:18,690
John C. Dvorak: Communist Party
in this country anymore that he

3855
03:55:18,690 --> 03:55:19,650
could be a member of

3856
03:55:19,680 --> 03:55:22,500
Adam Curry: Xin came to believe
that the point of view expressed

3857
03:55:22,500 --> 03:55:28,890
in traditional history books was
often limited. When biographer

3858
03:55:28,890 --> 03:55:32,490
Martin Duberman noted or noted
when he was asked directly if he

3859
03:55:32,490 --> 03:55:36,420
was a Marxist Zinn replied, Yes,
I'm something of a Marxist. He

3860
03:55:36,420 --> 03:55:39,330
especially was influenced by the
liberating vision of the young

3861
03:55:39,330 --> 03:55:43,260
Marx in overcoming alienation
and dislike what he perceived to

3862
03:55:43,260 --> 03:55:46,980
be Marx's later dogmatism so
that you kind of making my

3863
03:55:46,980 --> 03:55:51,570
point. The guy starts off by
saying, you reduce everyone on

3864
03:55:51,570 --> 03:55:54,840
the left to the moniker of
communist you need to wash out

3865
03:55:54,840 --> 03:55:59,760
your ears, son. Do I call Tulsi
Gabbard a communist Chuck

3866
03:55:59,760 --> 03:56:03,240
Schumer a communist? Eric
Swalwell? Do I call them a

3867
03:56:03,240 --> 03:56:10,680
communist? Do you know we've
never done that? Nancy Pelosi I

3868
03:56:10,680 --> 03:56:13,380
may not like her but don't call
her a communist. She's not a

3869
03:56:13,380 --> 03:56:17,430
communist. So how does a guy
like this? Come up with saying

3870
03:56:17,610 --> 03:56:22,470
not only are you bigoted, but
you're not but that he's not a

3871
03:56:22,470 --> 03:56:26,640
communist? When he was a member
of the Communist Party,

3872
03:56:27,480 --> 03:56:30,330
John C. Dvorak: he's a
communist. Yeah. And it's

3873
03:56:30,330 --> 03:56:33,000
obvious he's a communist. And if
you told me you went up to us,

3874
03:56:33,000 --> 03:56:36,240
are you a communist? Yeah, I'm a
communist. So what? And that's

3875
03:56:36,270 --> 03:56:41,610
the right answer. Yeah, and then
maybe spin, but we don't call

3876
03:56:41,640 --> 03:56:45,450
everybody a communist except,
you know who we call communists.

3877
03:56:46,500 --> 03:56:48,750
Adam Curry: Communists. Yeah,
exactly.

3878
03:56:49,200 --> 03:56:50,790
John C. Dvorak: So you're a
communist Shere Khan would be

3879
03:56:50,790 --> 03:56:54,150
proud of it. Yeah. And if Miguel
is a communist, which apparently

3880
03:56:54,150 --> 03:56:58,770
he is, because he's going on and
on like this, and he's hating us

3881
03:56:58,770 --> 03:57:02,220
hating on us, you're pointing
out the obvious we don't think

3882
03:57:02,220 --> 03:57:05,580
it's shameful to be a communist.
We just think you should know

3883
03:57:05,580 --> 03:57:05,880
it.

3884
03:57:05,940 --> 03:57:09,090
Adam Curry: Yeah. So when people
aren't communists we don't call

3885
03:57:09,090 --> 03:57:09,630
them that.

3886
03:57:10,110 --> 03:57:11,700
John C. Dvorak: No, we've never
You're right. We never call

3887
03:57:11,700 --> 03:57:13,290
names for fortunately.

3888
03:57:15,090 --> 03:57:19,530
Adam Curry: Unfortunately, this
is exactly what happens people

3889
03:57:20,220 --> 03:57:22,380
are hearing different things
it's

3890
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John C. Dvorak: they're hearing
what they want to hear. These

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03:57:26,250 --> 03:57:29,040
two guys are douchebags they
call everyone a communist. They

3892
03:57:29,040 --> 03:57:31,830
just what he's gonna hear we're
calling everyone a communist.

3893
03:57:32,490 --> 03:57:35,400
Adam Curry: You know what I'm
calling you my love of

3894
03:57:35,460 --> 03:57:36,840
John C. Dvorak: a cab call me a
cab.

3895
03:57:37,019 --> 03:57:42,509
Adam Curry: There you go. Yeah,
hey, we by coincidence, which it

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03:57:42,509 --> 03:57:46,169
truly is one sir Brandon Scott
has a podcast which was just

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03:57:46,169 --> 03:57:50,309
added to the rotation that no
agenda stream.com And he donated

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03:57:50,309 --> 03:57:55,049
today. So he's got a good show.
I guess otherwise the cats

3899
03:57:55,049 --> 03:57:58,259
wouldn't put them on cats over
there. No agenda stream.com

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03:57:59,879 --> 03:58:06,779
podcast name it's called a brand
new says. The brand new says

3901
03:58:08,579 --> 03:58:12,689
it's coming on. End of show
mixes we've got you some Danny

3902
03:58:12,689 --> 03:58:18,059
loose we've got you some
Fletcher. And you got some lucky

3903
03:58:18,059 --> 03:58:20,549
TV with your big daddy by
request coming to you from

3904
03:58:20,549 --> 03:58:25,799
opportunities. Episode 33 is
zone 33. here in Austin, Texas

3905
03:58:25,799 --> 03:58:28,289
feel region number six in the
morning, everybody my mouth stop

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03:58:28,289 --> 03:58:29,279
working. I'm Adam curry.

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03:58:30,120 --> 03:58:32,700
John C. Dvorak: And from
Northern Silicon Valley, where

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03:58:32,700 --> 03:58:36,570
everybody's mouth wished. I wish
they'd stop working but they

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03:58:36,570 --> 03:58:38,010
haven't. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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03:58:38,070 --> 03:58:40,830
Adam Curry: If I was female, I
could talk much longer. Hey, you

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03:58:40,830 --> 03:58:44,220
know what, remember us at the
vortec.org/and they will talk to

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03:58:44,220 --> 03:58:50,070
you on Thursday. Adios mofos and
such.

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03:58:51,720 --> 03:58:55,290
Unknown: Last night, the United
States brought the world's

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03:58:55,290 --> 03:59:02,550
number one terrorist leader to
justice. Abu Bakar Al Baghdadi

3915
03:59:02,700 --> 03:59:14,730
Abu Abu Bakar, Abu Abu Bakar,
Danny calm. United States abou

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03:59:14,760 --> 03:59:20,790
is not searching for Baghdadi
Abu. Many years. Baghdadi Abu he

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03:59:20,790 --> 03:59:25,140
died after running into a dead
end tunnel. Abu Baghdadi is

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03:59:25,140 --> 03:59:31,290
dead. And he died in a vicious,
violent way. He died like a dog

3919
03:59:31,290 --> 03:59:37,950
or a boo boo back caddy and the
daddy. Daddy and the daddy.

3920
03:59:38,850 --> 03:59:45,930
Daddy and the daddy. And now
he's got Baghdadi a car, a car.

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03:59:47,430 --> 03:59:52,380
He died like a dog daddy.
Running and crying. Daddy

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03:59:53,580 --> 03:59:54,000
watchmen