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John C. Dvorak: arrest him.

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Unknown: Adam Curry, John C
Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: It's Sunday June 23
2019. This is your award winning

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get my nation media
assassination episode 1149

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Unknown: This is no agenda.

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Adam Curry: Back at home base in
the serve Blake, soundproof

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studios and broadcasting live
from the frontier of Austin,

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Texas capital, the drone Star
State in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam curry

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John C. Dvorak: and from
Northern Silicon Valley where

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I'm awaiting the 10 cars effort
to go zooming by any minute. I'm

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Jhansi Dvorak,

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Unknown: Raglan buzzkill

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Adam Curry: thought it was that
it hasn't been 10 It's been less

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or it hasn't been a 10 cars less

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John C. Dvorak: than nine. It's
been nine by Dawn, I've noticed

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about starting a couple of weeks
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Adam Curry: Why is that all the
producers who aren't donating

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that are in the 10th car.
They're on their way somewhere

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else? Is that what's going on?
Is that what happens in the

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summer.

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John C. Dvorak: In the summer,
they'll jump into card number 10

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And off they go.

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Unknown: Yay. Yay. Yay.

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John C. Dvorak: It takes forever
jeez.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay, I got
some soundproofing panels

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finally. Oh, how do they sound?
Well, you tell me how does it

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sound? I can't exactly they
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away. These are huge sur Blake.
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had just I guess she works at
some company. That does sound

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proofing Yeah. And she had a
whole stack left over and these

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are shoot what are these like?
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a half I think almost Yeah. And
he sent me the six of them and

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so they're just leaning against
the wall now but when they're up

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on the wall would be even
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John C. Dvorak: does need to
lean this I probably better

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Adam Curry: habit. I think it'll
look better if they're hanging

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John C. Dvorak: I don't know if
you fall down or something to

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thing lean in there is gonna
flow you're gonna catch your

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fall and you'll be okay you want
to break your hip.

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Adam Curry: It just looks better
if it's against the wall now it

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looks like a still a temporary
studio. It is oh it's not no we

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own this place. We're not moving
feet first baby will stay in any

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room to the wall. Well, I can
look I just got home and there

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are two big boxes with three
each and suddenly after I

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rebuilt the studio for the
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that you know we got home.

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John C. Dvorak: What don't you
just do the podcast on an

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iPhone? Would

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Adam Curry: you work for the
IRS?

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John C. Dvorak: All this gear
for it. It makes it makes sense.

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You use an iPhone. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: I heard you do it on
the iPhone. Lots of people do it

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on the iPhone. You don't need
this gear. You'll need no

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deductions for that. Exactly.
Yeah, so we got home Yeah,

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yesterday I landed mana we land.
We landed to two but it took a

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long time to to get out of the
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big international terminal,
which consists of a small haul.

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John C. Dvorak: You flew a
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and you know we went through
this no lady always went through

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Atlanta or

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Adam Curry: snow Norwegian Air
remember Norwegian Right, right.

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I'm sorry, you took it from guy
we actually didn't take a step

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back. So we flew from Fido in
Portugal on Friday. So the day

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after the show, you know I took
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put it in my bag and and so we
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had the Saturday 10am flight
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at the airport hotel first of
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experience with Gatwick and with
Belfast and with Faro at any

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point when you're entering or
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airport right so you're going
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security or both. They force you
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mean but not a little bit

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John C. Dvorak: keeps an airport
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Adam Curry: If I know people who
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probably they would probably
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see you walk out of the security
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doesn't matter whether you're
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it or any content at these
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walk through here you you go
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then to the right and then
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and there's more shops. But this
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John C. Dvorak: went through
Gatwick last time and I noticed

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that there's a lot of shopping
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to walk through it. It's like
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designers from casinos. Yes.
Like many the Vegas casinos to

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get to the hotel desk. You gotta
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Adam Curry: Like they it's
almost like Ikea where you can't

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just get something and go you
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path and they have a path. So
that was just odd. And so we

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decided to stay at a hotel at
the airport and there's three of

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The main three a Gatwick as a
Hampton Inn. There's a Yotel

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which I think you stayed at a
hotel last time you to Gatwick

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John C. Dvorak: New York I think
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who wasn't a util someone else's
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comfortable

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Adam Curry: so we we stayed at
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John C. Dvorak: maybe what we
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Adam Curry: I love this idea
because you're basically renting

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this highly designed packed with
technology little block of space

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which is completely designed for
aesthetics the shower which is a

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no wait a minute it was a it was
a brand shower. And I forgot it

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was like

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John C. Dvorak: very convenient
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Adam Curry: This shower
assaulted me and got into shower

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and, and it's very dark,
everything's dark marble or

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whatever the dark the stone is
that you can't really see very

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well and there's it four knobs
and your turn one is like right

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in your face should change that.
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you'd even see the the extra
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of a sudden scalding hot is just
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completely built for the way it
looks. Not really for

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ergonomics. I'm tripping over
stuff it's but it was cute. I

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liked the idea. I think Did you
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perfect right into the right
into your your checking,

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checking aisle and Norwegian Air
and gotta tell you, I like him.

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John C. Dvorak: Now that should
give you a free flight for this

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promotion.

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Adam Curry: I don't think so.
I'm gonna meet free anything

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John C. Dvorak: that gives you
they get here to think about

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these. If they gave you a free
flight, they'd be in the red.

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Adam Curry: Probably. It was the
Dreamliner, which is nice. That

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I have to say for plastic
airplane. It's very, very

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comfortable aircraft. So that
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Here's what I asked, actually,
Horowitz called me yesterday, he

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had some messing around with his
setup again and broke it or

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whatever you do call Adam.

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John C. Dvorak: I've never seen
a guy futz around with stuff as

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much as he reminds

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Adam Curry: me of me actually.
futz around and then you break

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stuff and like, how do I fix it?
And it's, he's wrestling with,

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he's like, Well, I just moved
everything to Windows and those

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type of problems. I said, What?
It's yeah, it's you figured you

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just move from Mac to Windows on
a on a Saturday, and it will be

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easy. Is that what you thought?
Anyway, that wasn't what it's

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about. I asked him the same
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You've been away from home or
the kids stayed home or one kid

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stayed in your house? You came
back, right? Yeah. Now does your

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kid then have something you
know? Like some some in the in

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the fridge a little stock? Just
a couple of things like a little

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sandwich or something because
you flew and you're hungry. And

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you know, they thought about
you? Do you kids ever do that?

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John C. Dvorak: No. Okay. Does
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Adam Curry: three out of three
it just, or oh, it's the same

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answer. I was just wondering. I
had high hopes.

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John C. Dvorak: You're a
dreamer.

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Adam Curry: I'm an idiot.
Apparently, like you get picked

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up at the airport. Not even that
she was asleep. At home. Yeah,

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oh, well. So it's not just me
good. It's good to know. All

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right. I do have a lot. Oh,
actually, while we're, while

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we're talking about airports,
you know, again, all this facial

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recognition stuff that that we
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of the European airports and
it's almost seems a little

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unsophisticated when you come
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there's it's just not it's just
not organized well and and

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Austin Bergstrom Airport has it.
They had a luggage problem I saw

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in the council meeting that they
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earmarked for the new baggage
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out why they had for
international flights come into

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this new international terminal
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It's kind of off in the corner,
and the bags got clogged up.

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They were clogging up down at
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literally flying through the air
as they pop down, hit another

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bag and then the thing stops and
then there's no one to to unclog

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it. So passengers are clamoring
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tossing stuff and people are
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It was a nightmare. Nightmare.
We got one of our two bags and

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then like

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Adam Curry: So we waited like an
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bag because it was clogged
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here in Austin, ready for the
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to love flying, you know, I used
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Atlanta, Atlanta to Europe, but
typically to speak ball and then

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from people you can get anywhere
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the direct flight, which is
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KLM, I prefer to go to the UK.
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the Delta CEO Ed Bastian. And I
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had a problem recently where
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their village? Yes, it was, was
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or their app, which most people
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like to print them off. And I
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to use anyway. So I just scan it
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John C. Dvorak: I did test those
people use their phone for this

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sort of, well, it's

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Adam Curry: pretty much standard
fare now. The app was no longer

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bringing up boarding passes. So
they had to, they had to resort

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back. Well do you have can you
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leg? You know, huge delay, big
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We're the technological airplane
here. With the technological

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aviation company with airline of
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to a full biometrics facility.
So when you get out of the car,

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you never have to show your
papers you know because we use

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facial recognition on the way
and you can check check in you

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can check your bags all through
facial go through security.

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Adam Curry: Oh, by the way, I
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without laughing every single
time this Jumoke says facial he

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just keeps saying well we do
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the guy ever watch porn does he
know that this is just not an

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okay thing to say through the

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plane and go off to your

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international destination. And
when you return, you have those

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same opportunities. The next big
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domestic TSA and we're working
with TSA on checkpoint, anything

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we can do to expedite it's not
only more effective, but it's

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also more efficient. Clear we
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this this is this is a separate
technology that we've worked

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together with CBP on. We're
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Adam Curry: CBP is Customs and
Border Patrol. So they're in

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cahoots, they're colluding with
the government on facial

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I think they're going to be fast

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forward. Okay. So it sounds like
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journey on this hard, hard to
hard to put a timeline on it.

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Because it's really the
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own the technology, then they
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with any pitfalls that we need
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Adam Curry: Let me think what
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kind of pitfalls could there be

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Unknown: after like that? Now, I
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about facial. Certainly, you
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John C. Dvorak: I could tell you
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guy has a bet with somebody
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Adam Curry: right. We're just a
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crack a smile, man. It'd be so
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John C. Dvorak: We'll do it man.
Yeah, 50 bucks knew that

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Adam Curry: he went wrong. But
he went over the top and he

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says, we're very sensitive about
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something like that a chapter
like collusion? No, I think

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everyone is, you know, you know,
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know, certainly, you know, with
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for technology companies wide,
wide scale. You know, facial

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recognition falls into that
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that we never actually retain
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know, through the government.
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facial recognition already.
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normal passport screening
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Adam Curry: when we asked as
citizens of Gitmo nation that

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this was okay for them. For
them. Them's being the

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government to share our facial
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there an inquisition? Was there
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John C. Dvorak: Oh, that must
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forms. There's probably thing in
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Adam Curry: Yeah. So wrong. I'm
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know if there's any way to stop
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John C. Dvorak: it or against it
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This is a foregone conclusion.
Nobody said nobody's bitching

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about it. So if there's nobody
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protests. Well, nothing going on
and say you complaining and lone

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voice. It's done.

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Adam Curry: Well, I'm going to
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to fly Delta. Now. I'm sure this
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everyone will go for it.

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John C. Dvorak: But people love
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Adam Curry: sad. It truly is and
and I can see the writing on the

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wall. It's going to we're
getting to a point where I with

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my Nokia II 71 which provides no
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John C. Dvorak: arrest him

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Adam Curry: I'm now suspicious
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John C. Dvorak: All right,
right? What does always been

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Adam Curry: getting now we're
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will be deemed suspicious if you
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fact, you know, I have a beef
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guy on. Google gets to work at
Area 51. And they're talking

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about technology and how it's
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terrestrial stuff and how we're
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whatever, whatever our overlords
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and all this stuff and, and, you
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modern life this is Joe's take
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you used to have to fight off
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have to fight off the facial.
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follow the whole conversation,
but I pulled the clip, which was

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very, irking irksome to me,

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Unknown: I don't think so. I
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we're going to embrace it. We're
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embrace cell phones, the same
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gonna be a few holdouts I don't
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Those are those. There's a few
and far between the good luck

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with that fuckface go move to
the woods. Ted Kaczynski. Yeah,

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I was just gonna throw Ted. Ted
Kaczynski was right. This is

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something that I think about
sometimes when I get really

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high, that Ted Kaczynski was a
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This has been proven Ted
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fucking brain when he was at
Harvard. And then when he went

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enough money so that he could
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in the woods and then write his
manifesto and start killing

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people that were involved in
propagating technology. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: Joe. No, Joe, stop.
Stop, stop, stop. Yeah, his

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brain was fried. It was an MK
Ultra program that he was in. He

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did not go to Harvard to get
rich to live in the woods and

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kill everyone implementing the
technology. I just want to set

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you straight on that being a a
student of Professor Ted, and

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you might want to read his anti
tech revolution book, which came

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out two years ago. What happened
is he saw he is brilliant, saw

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the writing on the wall that the
technological society would fail

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in such a spectacular fashion
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not billions, of people will be
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on our way see facials. It's
just It starts with the facial,

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it ends with your death. And he
wrote the manifesto. No one

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would publish it. No one would
publish his manifesto. And then

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he said, If the New York Times
and Washington Post, do not

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publish this, I will start
killing people. And he started

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by sending letter bombs to
university professors, deans and

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administrators and airline
executives you not bomber not

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because these people were were
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they eventually published his
manifesto. And he stopped

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killing people. That's the true
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John C. Dvorak: Well, the
stories, the stories, the

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stories always more fair, pisses

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Adam Curry: me off. jokes,
jokes, whatever it becomes,

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John C. Dvorak: ya know, and
it's just okay. What Okay, well,

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that's interesting. I remember I
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the Comdex shows massive parties
for the party sponsors. Sorry,

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Adam Curry: what kind of parties
just the giant parties. You

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organized parties?

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John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Oh, I
had. So I don't know this. Three

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people who did would meet Jerry
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we found sponsors and partners.
That sounds like a party. It was

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pretty, pretty good. And so we'd
have these massive parties. We

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have secondary parties. You have
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like the this Limelight in New
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And there's another one. So what
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and went they did it for about
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one day this guy's telling me of
all Yeah, these parties used to

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do. They're fantastic. And he's
going on and on about one of the

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parties. He says it was really
spectacular when you came in on

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the helicopter. And I'm, I can't
even imagine what he was doing.

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I mean, I for one thing I've
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a party. I think it's cool. I
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definitely cool. But I'm
thinking would somebody come in

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Adam Curry: became a cop. This
became a thing where it's always

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to where are you at a party. So
this became a thing where hey,

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man, remember DeVore X party
with a helicopter? And everyone

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goes, Yeah, that was the best.

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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, great. So
these things just become they

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take on a life of their own.
It's just like to watch it just

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morph into something. That's
total bull crap. You just saw

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that within a very small way
with Rogan there.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. And I like
Joe, but come on away. When he

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John C. Dvorak: does that. He
has a huge audience. Everybody

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hears him and that's what that's
what they believe. That's what

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they repeat what they believe.
Exactly. So you have to be very

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respond. Ansible is gonna sit
here and as a podcaster you have

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responsibilities you know,
you're responsible.

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Adam Curry: You got
responsibilities and

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obligations. Yes. Okay, I got a
little Expo say I want to do but

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I'd like to I'd like you to do
something. First of all, we're

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going to ease into it. So what
do you got? Give me something.

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John C. Dvorak: something you
need anything just when it's

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somebody that's going to go a
long ways or just have something

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stupid. No, just Mazie Hirono
kind of the idiot that is going

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to now go after the head of ice.

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Unknown: Mr. Robbins, would you
send your child to the far seas?

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Adam Curry: That way? We have to
set this up. Mazie Hirono. Is

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she a senator?

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John C. Dvorak: She's the
senator from Hawaii, Hawaii.

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Yeah, she's pretty dumb. I
believe that Tulsi Gabbard is

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only running for president so
she can take her job the next go

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around because she should
somebody has replaced this

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woman. And she's asking
somebody, the head of ice,

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whether he would send his
children to the cat to the not

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the concentration camps, which
is obviously the word of the

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day. Yes. To these camps. Like
it's like asking somebody that

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you would you send your children
to Alcatraz? I mean, where would

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you send your children to
SingSing? Why is she asked it,

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it's got nothing to do with it.
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Adam Curry: think she's
expecting that we have these

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block hotels, BOC at the border,
you know where it's a nice

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little little cool, you can go
to your technology, you can hang

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out until your paperwork is
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Again, I think we're missing the
point. These individuals are

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there because they have broken a
law. There has to be a process.

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They have broken a law. Let me
as deemed so by the president

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with his

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No, ma'am. They're there for
violation of Title eight of the

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immigration of the US and
Nationality Act. Okay, they're

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eight USC 1325. That's illegal
entry is both a criminal and

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civil violation. They are in
those FRCS pending the outcome

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of that civil immigration
process. They have broken the

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zero tolerance, these are no
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they're both so they were
criminal proceedings when the

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Border Patrol prosecuted them.
But at the conclusion of that

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process, once the individual
came into ICE custody, they

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would go through administrative
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I'm confused.

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John C. Dvorak: So she starts
off by saying the only reason

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that we're picking people up at
the border is not because

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they're breaking any laws.
There's no law. It's because

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Trump said to pick them up.

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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, of course.
Yeah. The mean the Hitler guy.

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Yeah, Hitler. Yeah, that guy?
Well, she is she is part of a

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very big problem. In fact, all
of this immigration, because

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that's pretty much all that we
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fi them, it's just all I mean,
it has been immigration,

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immigration, immigration. For
how long

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John C. Dvorak: is Trump got in

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Adam Curry: in that kind of the
yes, in Trump God and kind of

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the top stories all immigration,
immigration, immigration, and

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it's all about a class of people
who, and it's not a not a, you

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know, a single color or
anything, it's a class of people

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who come in claim asylum, and
because of a very fixable law,

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very fixable. They can't be
detained after a certain amount

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of time. And then they have the
absolute legal right to be

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released into the country on
their own. What's the word? I'm

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looking for? Rick? cognizance,
thank you their own

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recognizance, and they just have
to come back for their court

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date, which a high percentage
never does. And so that's how

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you get a lot of smart was come
back, no, lots and lots of lots

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of illegal immigrants in the
country. And the Democrats have

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been using this as a major
talking point a major strategy

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for for really, for one thing,
as far as we can see, I think

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you'll agree John, is for a new
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John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And that's
why they want to get them

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driver's license. So they can
say show the driver's license

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with an address on it and the
voter registration, people just

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let them vote. And it's just to
get votes. And it's really

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advocrats strategy.

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Adam Curry: Really, it's really
that cynical. Some that's kind

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of a question. Yes. There's no
other reason. It's not really

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for compassionate reasons. A

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John C. Dvorak: lot of the real
dumb ones like Maisie are

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probably sincere when it was
some of these thoughts of theirs

443
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because they're naive and they
don't see it that way. And it's

444
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just people being people and we
don't need borders anyway. No

445
00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:54,540
borders, no walls. What do we
need borders for? Right? You

446
00:24:54,540 --> 00:24:57,990
know, if somebody wants to come
to California and work, because

447
00:24:57,990 --> 00:25:01,440
they're going to be working and
paying taxes is, yeah, there's

448
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,520
no reason we shouldn't let them
just waltz in. Well, listen, he

449
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,470
borders and controls and people,
you know, people aren't illegal.

450
00:25:10,530 --> 00:25:14,820
Yeah. And there's a group like
that Sure did. But I'd say the

451
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smoked, I'd say the smart ones,
the Chuck Schumer's. And then

452
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Nancy Pelosi has know exactly
what they're up to.

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Adam Curry: And do you think
that this alienates any groups

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in the United States that who
are

455
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John C. Dvorak: the ones who
could went through the hassle of

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becoming citizens?

457
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Adam Curry: Or maybe some
existing citizens and this is

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this is I got kind of a I got an
interesting, DM. Friday, as as

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I'm packing up the studio, and I
get a DM from producer Moe, Moe

460
00:25:45,780 --> 00:25:49,980
Moe, most from Virginia. He's
also mo facts on YouTube, but I

461
00:25:49,980 --> 00:25:53,190
didn't know this at the time.
And most black he's a black

462
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:56,730
producer of the no agenda show.
You always got a break for that.

463
00:25:56,730 --> 00:26:00,660
Because what do we have three?
That we know we have

464
00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:04,860
John C. Dvorak: the Incognito
who knows and goes, donate

465
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anymore and he hates us.

466
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Adam Curry: He hates me. I think
he hates me wasn't that? Well,

467
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,800
your conclusion? For some
reason?

468
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John C. Dvorak: He might. He
might. I think it's just

469
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general.

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Adam Curry: So mo, mo is an
adult most 38. He's got four

471
00:26:20,550 --> 00:26:26,370
kids. No, he has a high tech
job. And but he DMS me says

472
00:26:26,370 --> 00:26:31,710
Adam, I need to talk to you. And
a little bit about Moe key found

473
00:26:31,710 --> 00:26:36,480
no agenda just before the tour
around the 2016 election before

474
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it and get this. He found the
show by googling news with no

475
00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:48,690
agenda. And so he found the show
and the accident, and he

476
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listened to a couple and then he
said, he said you have me at

477
00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:54,960
reptile people. So he was all in
once we once we start talking

478
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,760
about reptile people. But he's
he's been a very faithful

479
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:05,610
listener. And I, I think he sent
me a clip or two way back of a

480
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years ago. So he kind of
reintroduce himself. He said

481
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that I want to explain a little
bit about what's going on with

482
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this hr 40. And the reparations.
And this is what we played on

483
00:27:15,540 --> 00:27:18,360
the last show we talked to in
fact, I played there, Burgess

484
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:22,080
Owens, the former NFL football
player who was one of the two

485
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:29,250
Republican sponsored black
people testifying. And this hr

486
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40 was intended to, to determine
two things one, should there be

487
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a a full on reparations hearing?
And to what do reparations look

488
00:27:42,030 --> 00:27:45,720
like? Is it an amount or you
know, who's it for, et cetera,

489
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,530
et cetera. And he says, yeah,
and after listening to the show,

490
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is I really want to help you
understand a couple of things.

491
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And this wound up being a we
really didn't stop direct

492
00:27:59,490 --> 00:28:03,570
message him for probably five of
the nine hours on the flight had

493
00:28:03,570 --> 00:28:07,320
Wi Fi and the free Wi Fi in the
flight. We and so we're just

494
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,990
direct messaging, and he really
rolled out for me what's going

495
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:16,410
on, which I think, is probably
one of the most certainly

496
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,070
interesting, maybe important
political stories of this very

497
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:26,880
moment in time, not covered by
the M five M at all. In fact, if

498
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,920
anything, it's being obfuscated,
and and in with intent to

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00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,790
confuse people who, certainly
people who are not black to

500
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understand what is really going
on. And I'll say up front, I

501
00:28:39,810 --> 00:28:43,320
understand the irony of a white
man trying to explain the black

502
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,580
man's problem. So I'm fully
prepared to take some shit. And

503
00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:51,180
this is just what I understand
and how I and how I read this

504
00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:53,970
story. And I have some clips and
stuff to kind of backup what's

505
00:28:53,970 --> 00:28:58,740
going on here. But this is such
and such. So that's a term I'm

506
00:28:58,740 --> 00:29:03,840
looking for. This is about black
America, but the real black

507
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,200
America and there's a
distinction because the problem

508
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,000
for the Democratic Party right
now as we speak, is there's no

509
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,250
unity in the black community,
which is no surprise to you. And

510
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I know we've been saying this
about LGBTQ q ia p k for years.

511
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,740
But you know, this is not You
can't just say this group of

512
00:29:25,740 --> 00:29:29,460
people here is one group, and
they all think the same. And

513
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this goes for black America as
well. And he started off by

514
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saying, I want you to
understand, Adam, that

515
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reparations in this case, is not
black people looking for a

516
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:44,010
handout. This is not an Obama
phone moment. This is for

517
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services rendered to the
Democrat Party. And once he said

518
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:53,370
once he gave me that line, I'm
like, Oh, okay. What exactly are

519
00:29:53,370 --> 00:30:00,270
we talking about here? He says
the Democrat Party has care It

520
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,770
black Americans. And I'm going
to define what that means, in a

521
00:30:04,770 --> 00:30:08,250
moment. On an under a lot of
these are his words. And

522
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,860
actually, I wrote a lot of this
down in the show notes and go

523
00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:15,450
back and take a look at it.
They've kept black America,

524
00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:18,870
black people on the Democratic
plantation. This is not like

525
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:22,230
any, anything that you haven't
heard before. anything new.

526
00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:22,980
Yeah,

527
00:30:23,010 --> 00:30:24,930
John C. Dvorak: you know, you
don't have to make too many

528
00:30:24,930 --> 00:30:27,180
excuses for this. Just roll this
out, because I think everyone

529
00:30:27,180 --> 00:30:29,100
was on board with you doing
this.

530
00:30:29,429 --> 00:30:32,519
Adam Curry: So black people want
to be taken seriously as a

531
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voting bloc, just like every
other voting bloc, and they feel

532
00:30:35,879 --> 00:30:38,759
like they're not being taken
seriously. They'd actually like

533
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:43,739
to see how bad the Democrats
really hate Trump. And then this

534
00:30:43,739 --> 00:30:47,429
is not the handout that some
people are thinking it is. But

535
00:30:47,639 --> 00:30:52,349
what are you really prepared to
do for black people this time

536
00:30:52,349 --> 00:30:54,629
around, because we've been with
you, we've stayed with you.

537
00:30:54,629 --> 00:30:57,479
We've done everything we can.
And the past the Democratic

538
00:30:57,479 --> 00:31:00,029
candidates, they could just show
up to a black church on Sunday

539
00:31:00,029 --> 00:31:02,249
before elections and up, we got
the black vote covered

540
00:31:02,249 --> 00:31:05,579
everybody. It's all good. But
the black people have been taken

541
00:31:05,579 --> 00:31:08,729
granted by taking for granted by
the Dems for such a long time.

542
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:13,289
And Obama, as you and I would
have suspected was the absolute

543
00:31:13,289 --> 00:31:17,459
last straw. And people were so
done with that Democrat Party.

544
00:31:17,729 --> 00:31:21,149
And in fact, here's Reverend
Manning, I think this is a clip

545
00:31:21,149 --> 00:31:23,549
we've played in the past, our
good old Reverend Manning

546
00:31:23,549 --> 00:31:27,599
explaining exactly the problem
black people have with Obama,

547
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,260
Unknown: we gave him everything
that he needed to succeed. We

548
00:31:31,260 --> 00:31:34,710
gave them everything he needed
to lead his people. We gave him

549
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,740
everything he needed to help
black people. We gave them

550
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:40,500
everything he needed to change
the world and the dynamics of

551
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:43,860
black people. We gave them
everything to heal slavery, we

552
00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:47,340
gave him the presidency. And we
gave him the Nobel Prize for

553
00:31:47,340 --> 00:31:48,810
Peace. We gave him

554
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,350
Adam Curry: the megaphone. So
this is the problem. And they

555
00:31:55,350 --> 00:32:00,720
realize Obama was not a real
black American, has no African

556
00:32:00,750 --> 00:32:04,650
American roots from slavery, or
the term that and this is I

557
00:32:04,650 --> 00:32:07,800
think, where that kind of
triggered him to reach out. I've

558
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,600
heard this term DDoS, that
descendent of slaves. Turns out

559
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,010
the full term is ados. A DOS,
it's however you want to say it,

560
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which is American descendants of
slavery, which is, you know, I

561
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:25,140
think most people can point to
their descendants from slavery

562
00:32:25,140 --> 00:32:30,930
and say, This is who I am. I'm a
black American. So in 2016, we

563
00:32:30,930 --> 00:32:36,600
have Trump, he wins the
presidency, the Democrats are

564
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,110
making black Americans feel that
it's kind of the black man's

565
00:32:40,110 --> 00:32:44,820
fault for Trump getting in. And
if you listen to Yvette Cornell,

566
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,590
who we've played her clips on
the show previously, I think in

567
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:54,000
February, it was it came down to
one thing Trump said in his

568
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,590
campaign, one thing, what I

569
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:58,290
Unknown: want to talk about
today is Donald Trump, you knew

570
00:32:58,290 --> 00:33:00,480
that we're going to take Donald
Trump for me to have a

571
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,650
conversation today. And I really
am disappointed. I can't even

572
00:33:04,650 --> 00:33:07,200
say I'm disappointed at the
reaction to what Donald Trump

573
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,070
said, because I'm really not. I
really expected black people to

574
00:33:11,070 --> 00:33:14,280
go in on Donald Trump when he
said that we're poor, because

575
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,310
part of the problem is that
we're delusional. Like, we don't

576
00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:20,220
believe we're poor. We can give
you all type of statistics,

577
00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:22,500
talking about how you can give,
you should give Black people

578
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,810
opportunities, you should help
black people. But the minute

579
00:33:24,810 --> 00:33:28,980
Donald Trump says you're poor,
what do you have to lose? Black

580
00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:32,070
people had a problem. And it
makes no sense. Donald Trump

581
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:35,700
said black people are poor. He
said, your schools are failing,

582
00:33:35,730 --> 00:33:40,800
what do you have to lose? And
that's just the truth. And you

583
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,190
know, I was watching MSNBC
earlier this week, and I saw

584
00:33:44,220 --> 00:33:46,860
this woman, I don't know who she
was on MSNBC. I don't know if

585
00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:49,140
I've seen her before. I
obviously didn't remember her.

586
00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:52,440
But I saw her say, Well, you
know, he's he's being

587
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,560
condescending to black people.
And not all black people are

588
00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,600
poor. And I'm kind of sick of
hearing that. Because most black

589
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,590
people are poor. Or in the
working class, like that's

590
00:34:04,590 --> 00:34:07,680
poverty, we don't have any
inheritance. We have failing

591
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,400
schools, there are no jobs. That
means that we're a part of a

592
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,580
permanent underclass. I don't
care what the girl on MSNBC

593
00:34:14,580 --> 00:34:17,730
tells you who wears a nice weed,
I don't care what she says,

594
00:34:17,790 --> 00:34:20,520
we're in part of a permanent
underclass right now. And you

595
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,160
don't have to you don't have to
trust what I'm saying to you.

596
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,280
The only thing you have to do is
look at the data. Don't look at

597
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,900
me just look at the data.

598
00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:32,310
Adam Curry: So this was 2016 and
Yvette Cornell, along with

599
00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:39,360
Antonio Moore, who is he's a
lawyer, black lawyer, and he's,

600
00:34:39,630 --> 00:34:43,710
he's done some documentaries.
And together they started the

601
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:49,320
ADOS. And there's ADF ados. One
Oh, one.com and they have an

602
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,310
actual agenda. And they and the
whole point is Hey, you want to

603
00:34:53,310 --> 00:34:56,460
keep us voting Democrat after
all these disappointments. What

604
00:34:56,460 --> 00:34:59,520
we need is we need something
real, something tangible, show

605
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,490
us the money And that's how
reparations came into play. But

606
00:35:02,490 --> 00:35:05,160
if you really look at the
agenda, it's please give us

607
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:10,320
something that is only for black
Americans who are descendants of

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00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,300
slavery, who helped go built to
help build the United States.

609
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And the end the end, the
argument is reparations are paid

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00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,650
to many groups, Jews,
Palestinians. Now, right now,

611
00:35:25,650 --> 00:35:28,890
the New York Times wrote about
gay reparations for all of the

612
00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:31,860
troubles the gays have been
through. So there's always talk

613
00:35:31,860 --> 00:35:34,380
about paying people and it's
actual dollars being paid. We

614
00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:37,380
pay, don't we pay Holocaust
survivors still doesn't make us

615
00:35:37,380 --> 00:35:40,830
pay Holocaust survivors money?
Not that I know. Yeah, yeah.

616
00:35:40,830 --> 00:35:45,030
Yeah, Obama had put millions of
dollars out there for reparation

617
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:48,300
payments, and Palestinians has
all kinds of money. We're always

618
00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:53,100
paying somebody, and everyone's
and everyone's very open to

619
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:56,220
that. But when it comes to this
specific group, and they want to

620
00:35:56,220 --> 00:35:59,520
be identified as such, which is
important, they want to be

621
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,470
identified as direct descendants
from slavery, not like Kamala

622
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:07,260
Harris, who's black or brown,
whatever you want to call it,

623
00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:10,500
which people tell she's African
American. No, she's not. She's

624
00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:18,420
Caribbean, as from Jamaica, and
West Indies, and from India. So

625
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,010
they come up with this concept.
And the first thing I say is we

626
00:36:23,010 --> 00:36:26,790
have a big ask and our ask is
put us in the same category as

627
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:30,420
these other other groups who do
get money or other types of

628
00:36:30,420 --> 00:36:33,690
things. And we're not talking
affirmative action, because

629
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,510
although affirmative action
never was specifically meant for

630
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,410
Descendants of slavery, it kind
of got hijacked now, no, now

631
00:36:40,410 --> 00:36:43,080
you're gay, you can get
affirmative action benefits, all

632
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,660
kinds of stuff. It's really
affirmative action, I think,

633
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:46,200
embodies

634
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,350
John C. Dvorak: this is a never
ending Lucy and the football

635
00:36:49,350 --> 00:36:51,540
show. Yes, yes, exactly.

636
00:36:51,870 --> 00:36:56,430
Adam Curry: So something
interesting happens with the

637
00:36:56,430 --> 00:37:01,770
Muller report, the Muller
report, we supposed to really do

638
00:37:01,770 --> 00:37:05,520
in Donald Trump, so we don't
have to worry about it for 2020.

639
00:37:05,820 --> 00:37:09,570
And of course, that doesn't
happen. So now there's panic,

640
00:37:10,050 --> 00:37:13,920
because Whoa, whoa, whoa, what
are we going to do? And we have

641
00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:18,210
this annoying group of people
who are calling for stuff and

642
00:37:18,210 --> 00:37:20,520
then they're saying we're not
going to vote Democrat, we're

643
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,040
going to stay home that night
did not say that go vote for

644
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,320
Donald Trump or the Republicans,
like we're not going to vote for

645
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,080
you anymore. We're sick and
tired of it. Here's Antonia

646
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,220
Moore explaining this is this is
kind of the crux of, of his

647
00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:33,120
argument. So I

648
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,400
Unknown: just wanted to come to
you real quick. It's a YouTube

649
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,070
obviously can speak on this
Muller report that just came

650
00:37:38,070 --> 00:37:41,220
out. You know, I want to speak
to it from a lens of being black

651
00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:43,650
in America, and particularly
found in the ADOS movement,

652
00:37:43,650 --> 00:37:47,310
American descendants of slavery.
And no way do we support Trump.

653
00:37:47,340 --> 00:37:50,280
And largely, we represent a
population base that votes for

654
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,480
Democrats above 90%. Right. You
saw that in Texas and Florida,

655
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,610
and Georgia done the governor's
races. And that's just not

656
00:37:56,610 --> 00:38:01,140
consistent positioning voting.
Now, what I see is an attempt to

657
00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:05,400
make ADOS something that's not
it doesn't support Maga is not a

658
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,030
white nationalist supported
organization. One of the things

659
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:12,390
that the Muller report brings
about is the Democrats really

660
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:16,050
failed in terms of how much they
were going to dedicate to this,

661
00:38:16,050 --> 00:38:19,260
they dedicated the energy that
you needed to go into 2020.

662
00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:22,770
With, with policy into the
Muller report, Russia, Russia,

663
00:38:22,770 --> 00:38:26,340
Russia, Russia, one of the
things that you see is that now

664
00:38:26,340 --> 00:38:28,650
that it's failed, nobody wants
to hold the Democrats

665
00:38:28,650 --> 00:38:32,310
responsible for failing so bad.
If Trump wins again, it's

666
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:35,880
because the Democrats failed.
They failed to understand how

667
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,730
much it was there. They failed
to tell their surrogates how

668
00:38:38,730 --> 00:38:41,370
much they need to blame other
people. I want to reiterate,

669
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:45,000
again, we don't support Trump.
We're largely trying to push the

670
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,300
Democrats which we have done.
You read the Vox article, what

671
00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:52,080
it did, it quotes myself. And
what it says is that basically,

672
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,500
we don't want another Obama we
voted for Obama rates are unseen

673
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,810
and turned out every time seeing
many black Americans,

674
00:38:57,810 --> 00:39:00,900
particularly American
descendants of slavery. And so

675
00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:03,600
what ended up happening is that
there was an expectation for

676
00:39:03,630 --> 00:39:06,270
agenda. And then everybody said,
Well, you never gave him an

677
00:39:06,270 --> 00:39:10,110
agenda. Now, when black folks
given an agenda through us at

678
00:39:10,110 --> 00:39:11,850
the American descendants of
slavery, everybody says, well,

679
00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:14,610
you're forcing the Democrats to
actually commit to an agenda.

680
00:39:14,970 --> 00:39:18,870
Then they say, Don't don't, you
know, don't support Trump don't

681
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:22,230
give the agenda to Trump. They
don't want us to have an agenda.

682
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,010
Because our agenda attacks the
very core of America. It makes

683
00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:30,060
America acknowledge that you
built a group to fail. You have

684
00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:32,970
more black men incarcerated to
all women on the planet in

685
00:39:32,970 --> 00:39:38,100
America out of 20 million ADOS
men, 4 billion women with the

686
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,130
celebrity cheating scandal, why
women committed crimes that are

687
00:39:41,130 --> 00:39:45,030
tax fraud, that are mail fraud,
and they're talking about they

688
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:47,970
might not even get printed. We
get jailed and litter book to

689
00:39:47,970 --> 00:39:51,510
black men for small level best
to eat. And we don't know if

690
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:54,630
these white women are gonna get
jail or prison. This all hinged

691
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:58,710
the whole democratic approach to
Donald Trump going into 2020

692
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,930
hinged on the fact that Mother
would come back with

693
00:40:00,930 --> 00:40:05,670
indictments, if not on Trump
that at least on his son and

694
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:09,270
Kushner, and then also and then
also, you would have a strong

695
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:12,240
statement that there was that
there was a conspiracy, we need

696
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:16,650
to focus on a black agenda. And
we need to focus on reparations.

697
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,330
I'm not talking about voted for
Trump, I'm talking about the

698
00:40:21,330 --> 00:40:24,510
Democrats ignoring us, and then
focusing on things like

699
00:40:24,510 --> 00:40:28,500
immigration and DACA. We are
citizens here living under

700
00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:30,300
America, and we built America.

701
00:40:30,750 --> 00:40:34,260
Adam Curry: So they start this
movement and kind of like Magga,

702
00:40:34,410 --> 00:40:37,890
it catches fire. Now you and I
would know it because guess

703
00:40:37,890 --> 00:40:40,470
what, we're not on Black
Twitter, we don't see this. It

704
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:44,610
doesn't trend for us, even
though it should be. And they

705
00:40:44,610 --> 00:40:48,000
have an actual agenda. And
people start liking and it's in

706
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,750
the shownotes, just a couple of
the things on the Black Agenda.

707
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,430
Affirmative Action streamlined
as a government program only and

708
00:40:56,430 --> 00:41:01,380
specifically for American
descendants of slavery. They

709
00:41:01,380 --> 00:41:05,370
want 15% of Small Business
Administration loans to be

710
00:41:05,370 --> 00:41:09,870
distributed to ADOS businesses.
And I can go on and on. The idea

711
00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:14,190
is they want to be recognized as
an actual group, that is a

712
00:41:14,190 --> 00:41:17,190
minority group that got screwed
like many other groups, and

713
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:20,220
they'd like to have some benefit
from it. They've been promised

714
00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:23,040
all this by the Democrats never
received it. So this group

715
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,850
starts to grow. And this is a
problem because Oh, my goodness,

716
00:41:26,850 --> 00:41:29,880
we can't have we can't have them
getting all uppity. I'll just

717
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,590
say it and ruining our whole
control over the black

718
00:41:34,590 --> 00:41:38,160
community. So the mainstream
media comes up with this

719
00:41:38,190 --> 00:41:42,090
interesting little, little
narrative, that ad O S, the

720
00:41:42,090 --> 00:41:47,760
hashtag ados, is actually
something done by the Russians.

721
00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:53,250
And here's Joy read Black woman
with Shareen Michel black woman

722
00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:55,890
talking about the trending of
this hashtag.

723
00:41:56,190 --> 00:41:59,070
Unknown: They appear to be a
human, but they don't leave a

724
00:41:59,070 --> 00:42:02,400
big gap. As Adam just said, in
the time that they've tweeted,

725
00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:05,160
and they tweet you should you
respond to them.

726
00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:09,480
Generally, no, I mean, off the
back, you should say back and

727
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,600
just sort of watch their
engagement, how many times

728
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,730
they're tweeting, what they're
tweeting about, and even the

729
00:42:14,730 --> 00:42:17,700
topics in particular. And a lot
of the ones that are pretending

730
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:20,520
to be black people or black
women in particular, who are

731
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,150
focusing on black identity have
these sort of aspects in the

732
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:27,540
ways that they're talking about
language. If we saw the other

733
00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:30,780
day, there was an account that
was supposed to be for black

734
00:42:30,780 --> 00:42:34,620
supporting Howard Schultz, that
account was eventually pulled

735
00:42:34,620 --> 00:42:37,920
down. But that was a prime
example of someone trying to

736
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,400
mimic support from the black
community for a particular

737
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,920
candidate. So these kinds of
things that are happening at

738
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,860
this moment, we have to pay a
little bit more close attention

739
00:42:46,860 --> 00:42:50,190
to it because there is nuance.
But there are also identifying

740
00:42:50,190 --> 00:42:53,100
factors. For example, right now
from the black identity

741
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:58,380
framework, there's a new sort of
hashtag and or identity that's

742
00:42:58,380 --> 00:43:03,450
in their bios called a D O S, or
D. O S, which is standing for

743
00:43:03,450 --> 00:43:07,590
descendants of slaves. So it's
the indication that they are,

744
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,430
they are someone who was born
in, you know, as as a descendant

745
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:15,000
in the United States, who was
representing black America and

746
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,110
has the vernacular in the
language that people will

747
00:43:19,110 --> 00:43:22,170
believe as someone who's a part
of our community who's either

748
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,050
debating about Camilla, or
debating about Booker, because

749
00:43:25,050 --> 00:43:29,340
that's who just announced and
trying to say, we know who's the

750
00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:33,480
most, you know, who's who's
black in America and making sure

751
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,300
that they're, you know, sort of
talking in this vernacular that

752
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:37,650
makes it look like that they are

753
00:43:38,340 --> 00:43:39,900
American. Yeah. Yeah.

754
00:43:40,170 --> 00:43:43,830
I mean, I did see a huge uptick
in bot activity when it came to

755
00:43:43,830 --> 00:43:46,140
when Kamala Harris announced,
it's like, it just dropped like

756
00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:49,050
a bomb. It just happened really
quickly. And she was accused of

757
00:43:49,050 --> 00:43:51,750
being not, not really black, not
Not really.

758
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:55,950
You could see that happening.
But actually, there was an

759
00:43:55,980 --> 00:43:59,730
uptick of those bots, just
before she was about to announce

760
00:43:59,730 --> 00:44:01,560
so they were preparing for her
announcement.

761
00:44:01,620 --> 00:44:05,070
Adam Curry: So here are two
black women. Yeah. Here are two

762
00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:05,730
black with what

763
00:44:05,730 --> 00:44:08,400
John C. Dvorak: there's a bunch
of bots waiting for the pounce.

764
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,080
It's worse

765
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,550
Adam Curry: than that, to black
women who are black people call

766
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:21,150
Boulais which is you got to look
that one up. Bo Ueli Boulais.

767
00:44:21,540 --> 00:44:25,980
And they are just saying that
the people who are tweeting with

768
00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:30,810
this hashtag were bots, they're
not they're not people. And

769
00:44:30,810 --> 00:44:33,600
they're, they're more black than
Kamala Harris. Yes. They're

770
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,750
black Americans. Kamala Harris
is not a descendant of slavery.

771
00:44:37,140 --> 00:44:43,080
So when you have all this talk
about immigrants, immigrants

772
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,110
coming in, and Trump has has
said this many times they're

773
00:44:46,110 --> 00:44:50,370
taking the jobs, the sanctuary
cities they get all kinds of

774
00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:53,880
benefits black Americans are
getting screwed. This is from a

775
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,800
California Council meeting just
think two weeks ago. It to give

776
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,220
you an idea of how pay Stop the
black community really is about

777
00:45:02,370 --> 00:45:05,310
the democratic policy towards
illegal immigration.

778
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,330
Unknown: Going in where, again,
I say thank you wherever things

779
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:15,210
are racist, oh, my god are going
to illegal and concern the

780
00:45:15,210 --> 00:45:19,140
nomination. That is wrong.
You're not going to be allowed

781
00:45:19,140 --> 00:45:22,470
to get away with your time is
going to be you wants to feel

782
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:26,550
for your families, but you don't
feel for our family. Again, the

783
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:30,990
black community has been made me
been destroyed by racist,

784
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,160
illegal immigration. And we're
not going to have my people do a

785
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,460
crime. When we get prescribed.
You'll need to do a crime, they

786
00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:42,510
get amnesty, they get benefits,
and they're not paying taxes.

787
00:45:43,050 --> 00:45:48,570
Okay, publication publication
17. RF, they're allowing you

788
00:45:48,570 --> 00:45:52,710
people to blame people in
Mexico. I can't even take people

789
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,910
in New Orleans when they will
flow. Train My people. I ended

790
00:45:56,910 --> 00:46:02,820
up moving down there. But but
it's, it's over. Thank God for

791
00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:08,910
Trump. Thank God. And you said
you shouldn't be ashamed of how

792
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:15,780
dare you look at publication 17?
PAGE 25 and 26? How the hell are

793
00:46:15,780 --> 00:46:19,680
you allowed to claim people in
Mexico? Yeah, and get away with

794
00:46:19,710 --> 00:46:24,480
it not pay taxes. I am outraged.
I'm a tax preparer. I managed to

795
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,800
text on four different states
that it is number that you live

796
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:34,260
in as a social security number.
Oh, you don't want to be shut

797
00:46:34,260 --> 00:46:34,470
down?

798
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:39,060
Adam Curry: So imagine, imagine
that you already are quite aware

799
00:46:39,060 --> 00:46:41,700
of what's going on. You see,
these are replacement blacks.

800
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:44,880
This is just like the color gi
plan in Europe. These are

801
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,290
replacements for actual black
Americans who are descendants of

802
00:46:49,290 --> 00:46:53,790
slaves who built the country.
And you call their kids dreamers

803
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:57,690
abusing Martin Luther King's
words. Can you imagine how

804
00:46:57,690 --> 00:47:02,040
pissed off you would be? It's,
it's insane. So the idea is,

805
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:05,370
we've got a whip everybody in
the shape. You gotta shut up if

806
00:47:05,370 --> 00:47:08,700
you're talking about this stuff,
because we need one big black

807
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:11,670
community. Because otherwise
we'll have all these groups will

808
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:13,980
be coming looking for their
little handouts. We can't have

809
00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:16,590
that make them all make all
people of color, make them all

810
00:47:16,590 --> 00:47:21,870
black. And this is why people
like Candace Owens have to be

811
00:47:21,870 --> 00:47:27,000
beaten down. This is Candace
when she was in that, in that

812
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:29,040
congressional hearing.

813
00:47:29,279 --> 00:47:30,989
Unknown: Let me ask you
something. Do you hate Americans

814
00:47:30,989 --> 00:47:32,039
with black skin color?

815
00:47:32,399 --> 00:47:35,519
Absolutely not. I actually love
Americans with black skin color

816
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:38,309
so much that I'm willing to fall
on the sword 1000 times for them

817
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:41,339
to wake up and realize that we
are being lied to abused and

818
00:47:41,339 --> 00:47:42,719
used by the Democrat party.

819
00:47:42,839 --> 00:47:46,049
I'm baffled because in the
chairman's opening statement, he

820
00:47:46,049 --> 00:47:49,529
said that you openly associate
with purveyors of hate.

821
00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:53,100
Yes, purveyors of hate by his
definition is anybody that

822
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:55,560
supports the president. I
support the president because

823
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,780
he's done a tremendous job in
helping the black community,

824
00:47:57,870 --> 00:48:01,230
despite all of the rhetoric from
the media and leftists do not

825
00:48:01,230 --> 00:48:02,460
want him to be successful.

826
00:48:02,490 --> 00:48:04,620
Tell me a little bit about how
the President has helped the

827
00:48:04,620 --> 00:48:05,820
black community if you would,
please.

828
00:48:05,850 --> 00:48:07,920
Well, he's lowered the black
unemployment rate. It's the

829
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,260
lowest it's ever been in the
history. He's getting us off of

830
00:48:10,260 --> 00:48:14,160
our feet. We see I believe the
last number I checked was 3.5

831
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,590
million people are off of food
stamps, something that the Black

832
00:48:16,590 --> 00:48:19,590
Caucus sat down and didn't
applaud. Neither do any of the

833
00:48:19,590 --> 00:48:22,620
Democrats applauded because they
want a system where blacks are

834
00:48:22,620 --> 00:48:25,980
dependent on the government.
They are the people that put in

835
00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:29,040
place the policies that broke
down the black family. And the

836
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,190
biggest problem that's facing
our community is father absence.

837
00:48:32,550 --> 00:48:34,590
In every room that I've been in
with the President. He talks

838
00:48:34,590 --> 00:48:37,740
about real issues and he doesn't
pander to us. He doesn't do

839
00:48:37,830 --> 00:48:41,310
Alexandria Ocasio cortezes
Southern drawl accent and

840
00:48:41,310 --> 00:48:43,470
speaking to us like we're
slaves, he asks us important

841
00:48:43,470 --> 00:48:45,390
questions. And the most
important question you could

842
00:48:45,390 --> 00:48:48,150
have asked was black America.
What do you have to lose?

843
00:48:48,180 --> 00:48:50,250
Because we were already losing
under Democrat leadership.

844
00:48:50,490 --> 00:48:52,920
Adam Curry: So again, what do
you have to lose According to

845
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:56,490
producer Mo, that vibrated
throughout the black community,

846
00:48:56,490 --> 00:49:00,180
they all went, Holy crap, that's
not a bad thought the guy had

847
00:49:00,180 --> 00:49:03,810
right there. And Candace Owens
is one of the drivers now,

848
00:49:03,810 --> 00:49:12,180
although not an ados.
Spokesperson at all. She's the

849
00:49:12,180 --> 00:49:14,640
driver behind Brexit. And I
don't know if you saw in the

850
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,710
last 48 hours hashtag black, not
Democrat. And it's very similar

851
00:49:19,740 --> 00:49:22,770
type of situation where black
Americans are saying screw it.

852
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,880
I'm no longer on the Democrat
plantation. So here's the

853
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,610
conundrum the Democrats have
they're stuck between a rock and

854
00:49:29,610 --> 00:49:33,150
the hard place. They failed to
have this discredit rotation of

855
00:49:33,150 --> 00:49:40,350
Trump. And they need to show the
American descendants of slavery

856
00:49:40,350 --> 00:49:44,340
they really care. But they can't
because they have this whole

857
00:49:44,340 --> 00:49:49,050
immigration thing which goes
exactly against what the blacks

858
00:49:49,050 --> 00:49:54,090
want. So they can either they
could fix this in 15 minutes, as

859
00:49:54,090 --> 00:49:57,060
has been said, just changed the
asylum law and that would be

860
00:49:57,060 --> 00:50:00,000
such a huge thing. And I think
the blacks would hop right back

861
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,580
on the on the plantation, it's
like, okay, great,

862
00:50:02,970 --> 00:50:05,130
John C. Dvorak: too. And the
thing is, they're not going to

863
00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:08,040
do that, because of course not.
The blacks are one. They're a

864
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,460
voting bloc, but they're only so
big Latino communities bigger.

865
00:50:11,460 --> 00:50:14,040
Yep. Yeah. And if you keep
letting illegals in and letting

866
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,560
them vote, especially in places
like California, Southern

867
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,400
California, in particular,
that's a bigger voting bloc. And

868
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,400
so what so we lose a few blacks.
In fact, most of the half of the

869
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,340
blacks, if half, you lose half
of the blacks, you do a

870
00:50:26,340 --> 00:50:29,850
calculation on this, or as he
would say, a calculus, you do a

871
00:50:29,850 --> 00:50:32,910
calculation on these numbers,
and you have to finally come to

872
00:50:32,910 --> 00:50:35,820
the conclusion that, you know,
most of the blacks are going to

873
00:50:35,820 --> 00:50:38,070
stick with us anyway, because
they just don't have any other

874
00:50:38,070 --> 00:50:40,950
place to go. They don't like
Trump, we just call him a

875
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:43,200
racist. And now we'll take care
of that they won't go there

876
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,350
because he's a racist. Right?
And so they do the numbers and

877
00:50:46,350 --> 00:50:50,910
they say, Nope, exactly. Let's
not do anything for the black

878
00:50:50,910 --> 00:50:56,820
community. The A das non Adas,
whatever, ever. No, you're

879
00:50:56,820 --> 00:50:59,910
right. And if it reparations
talk is just what it sounds

880
00:50:59,910 --> 00:51:01,590
like. Yep. Talk Now,

881
00:51:01,620 --> 00:51:05,340
Adam Curry: how disgusting is it
that the two founders of the A

882
00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:10,770
das motor movement, Yvette
Cornell and Antonio Moore, were

883
00:51:10,770 --> 00:51:17,520
not invited to the reparations,
HR 40 hearing, they started the

884
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,510
whole movement they they pushed
for that hearing. And they were

885
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:25,560
disinvited, it was completely
hijacked. So there's some where

886
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,160
the Tea Party was hijacked.
Exactly. So they are pissed off.

887
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:32,310
Now. The Democrats, I think
you're right, they did the

888
00:51:32,310 --> 00:51:35,640
calculus. They said, Screw it.
So they don't care. But black

889
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,760
America is waking up. And I'll
tell you if Trump wanted to

890
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:45,030
secure his presidency, he all he
has to do is this. Illegal

891
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:47,880
Immigration is hurting all
Americans. Democrats don't want

892
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,120
to change the law. You know,
they could do it in 15 minutes.

893
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:56,070
But you know what, I'm all for a
DOS.

894
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,000
John C. Dvorak: All he has to do
all he has to do forever to

895
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,590
figure out what a DOS is.

896
00:52:01,650 --> 00:52:04,440
Adam Curry: Someone could write
it down for him. American

897
00:52:04,650 --> 00:52:10,470
descendants of slavery, a DOS,
DOS SpaceForce a DOS? He would

898
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:12,600
he would he would clench it in a
heartbeat.

899
00:52:12,990 --> 00:52:14,850
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's not happening. Well,

900
00:52:14,850 --> 00:52:15,870
maybe, maybe not.

901
00:52:16,620 --> 00:52:18,960
Adam Curry: So anyway, this is
just some ground groundwork for

902
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,160
us to understand the movement
that's taking place. And, and I

903
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:28,230
was most surprised by the
Boulais negros as, as, as Moe

904
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:32,790
would call them, who literally
are at the top of the pyramid on

905
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:36,630
MSNBC, and you know, and, and
keeping the rest of the black

906
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:39,450
Americans down with calling them
bots.

907
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:43,169
John C. Dvorak: It's actually
that woman you played I had that

908
00:52:43,169 --> 00:52:45,599
clip, but I had an extended
version of we played it about a

909
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,080
Adam Curry: year habit. I have
the Extended Clip. It's one

910
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,680
John C. Dvorak: where she goes
off and says something like, Joy

911
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,970
read doesn't speak for me. She
goes off on I think

912
00:52:56,970 --> 00:52:58,470
Adam Curry: this is it here. We

913
00:52:58,470 --> 00:53:02,460
Unknown: have a community and
collapse. And why I despise the

914
00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:05,790
people that go on MSNBC, like
Joy Reid, and the people that

915
00:53:05,790 --> 00:53:09,540
she has on her show is because
day in and day out, they lie to

916
00:53:09,540 --> 00:53:12,990
black people. They say no,
Donald Trump is wrong. You're

917
00:53:12,990 --> 00:53:16,470
doing better than that. Look at
me, I'm on TV. Look at me. I'm

918
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:19,140
this woman I'm interviewing, she
has a company. And they say

919
00:53:19,140 --> 00:53:21,840
we're doing better than that.
And the truth is, they're lying.

920
00:53:22,050 --> 00:53:25,860
And they lie to us every day.
And that's why I'm so sick. I'm

921
00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:29,220
so I try not to personalize that
I'm sick of joy Reid, I'm sick

922
00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:31,740
of the people that she invites
on her show. I'm sick of her

923
00:53:31,740 --> 00:53:35,250
speaking on behalf of black
people. I'm sick of Charles blow

924
00:53:35,250 --> 00:53:38,010
speaking on behalf of black
people. I don't represent black

925
00:53:38,010 --> 00:53:40,740
people, and neither do these
people. The data represents

926
00:53:40,740 --> 00:53:43,980
judo. So what I want you to do
is just get involved in the

927
00:53:43,980 --> 00:53:48,420
data. Everything out everything
I've said on here can be proven

928
00:53:48,450 --> 00:53:51,060
everything I've said on here,
there's a data that supports it.

929
00:53:51,180 --> 00:53:53,880
Don't just listen to people who
are lying to you. And don't just

930
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,550
believe because you went to
brunch on Sunday, that you're a

931
00:53:56,550 --> 00:53:57,540
part of middle class.

932
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,800
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was your
clip. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.

933
00:54:01,980 --> 00:54:06,090
But the so the the What's the
problem now is the replacement

934
00:54:06,090 --> 00:54:12,420
by Caribbean blacks. And, and,
you know, if you really have to

935
00:54:12,420 --> 00:54:14,040
dive in, I'm not going to do
that. But you really have to

936
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,430
dive into history to understand
who was really doing the slave

937
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:20,940
trading where the slaves, slaves
didn't just come from Africa, it

938
00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:24,000
was the West Africans who are
selling the slaves there.

939
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,850
There's different countries
inside of Africa, and a lot of

940
00:54:26,850 --> 00:54:30,330
the Caribbean slaves, they were
shipped off to London, got an

941
00:54:30,330 --> 00:54:35,190
education. And so all of these
so called Caribbean blacks, they

942
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:39,300
are now at odds with the direct
descendants of slavery. And

943
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:42,660
Kamala Harris is a perfect
example. And then there's just

944
00:54:42,660 --> 00:54:46,560
the loaded term of people of
color. You know, imagine that

945
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,470
Elizabeth Warren, the first
woman of color at Harvard, I

946
00:54:49,470 --> 00:54:52,740
mean, imagine how you got to
feel if all this is coming down?

947
00:54:52,770 --> 00:54:57,270
No, it was nothing I didn't know
or suspect, but it was an eye

948
00:54:57,270 --> 00:55:00,630
opener. And then when you start
to look at these high hash tags,

949
00:55:00,660 --> 00:55:04,410
this new one, which is hashtag
black, not Democrat. There's

950
00:55:04,410 --> 00:55:07,650
something big going on and it is
not being covered and it's not

951
00:55:07,650 --> 00:55:09,180
being covered on purpose.

952
00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:11,640
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's not
being covered on purpose because

953
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,990
the mainstream media so is is
the mouthpiece for the

954
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:19,260
Democratic Party. Let's face it.
I mean, we can people deny you

955
00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:24,180
can go and give. I've given
plenty of talks to journalists

956
00:55:24,180 --> 00:55:27,360
only, and I've done head counts,
and there's like one Damak I

957
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,390
mean, sorry, there's like one
Republican roomful of Democrats.

958
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:33,300
Yeah. And my favorite story is
still one time was up in some

959
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:36,450
little group up in Minnesota.
And there's a whole it's one of

960
00:55:36,450 --> 00:55:39,720
these companies that I was like,
you know, 20 local regional

961
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:43,320
papers, and I asked a question
to this group. And I get no

962
00:55:43,350 --> 00:55:45,960
Republicans. It's like,
everybody loves our hands, or

963
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,500
yeah, we're Democrats. And one
Republican comes up to me later

964
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:53,520
says, you can see why I didn't
lift my hand. And they're at the

965
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,280
point where they won't even
admit it to Republicans anymore,

966
00:55:56,310 --> 00:56:01,530
is that bad and it media is just
rife. And that goes to the New

967
00:56:01,530 --> 00:56:05,820
Yorker magazine, New York
Magazine, all the all the book

968
00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:10,050
publishers in Manhattan, this is
just a complete takeover. It's

969
00:56:10,050 --> 00:56:11,910
it's, it's astonishing.

970
00:56:11,940 --> 00:56:14,790
Adam Curry: But it's also
weakness on the part of people

971
00:56:14,790 --> 00:56:19,050
in general. And we were in a cab
on the we go into the airport

972
00:56:19,050 --> 00:56:22,920
from Belfast, and the driver,
you know, he's chatty, that gets

973
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,350
what do you think of Trump and
the keeper and I like, well,

974
00:56:25,380 --> 00:56:28,620
wasn't Hillary Clinton, and they
see a lot of good things. This

975
00:56:28,620 --> 00:56:31,170
presentation is very
problematic. From time to time.

976
00:56:31,170 --> 00:56:34,980
He said, wow. Oh, you're the
only only I can't do an Irish

977
00:56:34,980 --> 00:56:39,330
accent. You're the only two the
one of two Americans who have

978
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,370
said that they they have some
support for Trump. I said, Yeah,

979
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,490
I think the other ones are just
too embarrassed, isn't it? It's

980
00:56:47,490 --> 00:56:50,400
such an embarrassment that's
been rammed into people's heads

981
00:56:50,550 --> 00:56:53,400
that he did. They just can't say
anything positive because

982
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,620
John C. Dvorak: you know, of his
embarrassment. I think it's

983
00:56:55,620 --> 00:56:59,640
fear. Embarrassment is not the
same as fear.

984
00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:02,520
Adam Curry: That's a good point.
Well, the blacks have a problem

985
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,270
too. According to Mo, he says,
you know, people don't have a

986
00:57:06,270 --> 00:57:09,150
big problem with Donald Trump,
he he could be written this, in

987
00:57:09,150 --> 00:57:12,960
fact, four more years of Trump.
They feel be good, but they have

988
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,370
fear for the same reason. They
have fear of saying it. And it's

989
00:57:17,370 --> 00:57:19,830
Trump, by the way, it's not the
it's not the Republicans. It's

990
00:57:19,830 --> 00:57:22,680
only Trump, they see something
there. And, you know, again, he

991
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,890
had one quote that seemed to
really resonate. It's the same

992
00:57:25,890 --> 00:57:30,660
thing. So there's so much fear
that no one's honest. And then

993
00:57:30,690 --> 00:57:35,370
the mainstream media just runs
on and programs everybody fears

994
00:57:35,370 --> 00:57:37,140
freedom. Remember?

995
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:42,930
John C. Dvorak: Yes. Well, it's
not going anywhere, anyplace.

996
00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:43,830
It's good for our show.

997
00:57:44,460 --> 00:57:46,950
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's great for
our shows that we have at least

998
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:49,770
something else to pay attention
to. Because I'm pretty, pretty

999
00:57:49,770 --> 00:57:51,810
sick of the no collusion. I
mean,

1000
00:57:52,860 --> 00:57:55,890
John C. Dvorak: any collusion
any collusion to you didn't clip

1001
00:57:55,890 --> 00:57:57,630
Adam Curry: it. I didn't know if
you didn't clip it because you

1002
00:57:57,630 --> 00:57:59,820
didn't want to play it or
thought everyone may be already

1003
00:57:59,820 --> 00:58:05,460
seen it. But this Rob Reiner
video that that his wife

1004
00:58:05,460 --> 00:58:10,530
produced and that he directed
holy crap with all the

1005
00:58:10,530 --> 00:58:11,910
celebrators in it.

1006
00:58:12,210 --> 00:58:16,770
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, all of all
of them needing makeup. Well, it

1007
00:58:16,770 --> 00:58:21,720
wasn't just that. I mean, how
pale is Robert De Niro looked

1008
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,770
half dead. I mean, he is
literally white as a sheet.

1009
00:58:25,830 --> 00:58:30,750
Adam Curry: So there's Robert De
Niro. Reiner. What's his name?

1010
00:58:31,050 --> 00:58:36,990
Hey, now. You know the Star Trek
guy. He does that all the time

1011
00:58:36,990 --> 00:58:37,260
to

1012
00:58:38,850 --> 00:58:41,730
John C. Dvorak: Sulu Come on.
Yes, Sulu. Was there surely

1013
00:58:41,730 --> 00:58:46,320
Adam Curry: Rosie Perez they dug
her up. Christine Lagarde. But

1014
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,500
then you know, Laurence
Fishburne now some, some

1015
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:51,990
respected actors. And what they
what they did is they went in

1016
00:58:52,020 --> 00:58:55,230
they lied, the hope that what
they were trying to do, say,

1017
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,020
here's what you didn't read in
the Muller report, because

1018
00:58:58,020 --> 00:59:00,330
you're stupid and you didn't
read it, you should read it, but

1019
00:59:00,330 --> 00:59:02,640
don't really read it. Because
just listen to us will tell you

1020
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:08,670
what's in it. And it's so it's
just full of lies. So we play a

1021
00:59:08,670 --> 00:59:10,710
little bit and just deconstruct
that as we go alive.

1022
00:59:10,770 --> 00:59:12,240
John C. Dvorak: I you know, I
would have been willing to

1023
00:59:12,270 --> 00:59:15,690
record the whole thing I just,
you're probably right. It was my

1024
00:59:16,530 --> 00:59:18,990
thinking, Well, you know, people
have seen this I am that know if

1025
00:59:18,990 --> 00:59:21,810
it's really not important in the
scheme of things. Because

1026
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:25,050
generally speaking, these
celebrities, it turns out by

1027
00:59:25,050 --> 00:59:28,830
studies have very little
influence on anybody. And

1028
00:59:28,830 --> 00:59:31,140
especially when they gang up
like this, and it just looks

1029
00:59:31,140 --> 00:59:33,390
like a bunch of Trump haters. I
just didn't think much of it.

1030
00:59:33,390 --> 00:59:36,030
But but it is entertaining from
that perspective.

1031
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,430
Adam Curry: Let's just well,
this some parts would just stop

1032
00:59:38,430 --> 00:59:39,750
and we get tied up with bailout
in

1033
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:42,420
Unknown: 2016. The Russian
government attacked our

1034
00:59:42,420 --> 00:59:44,190
democracy. They interfered

1035
00:59:44,190 --> 00:59:47,730
in the presidential election in
sweeping and systematic fashion.

1036
00:59:47,850 --> 00:59:49,530
Adam Curry: There's nothing like
having an actor who played the

1037
00:59:49,530 --> 00:59:52,170
President doing this too. That's
always great when you get sheen

1038
00:59:52,170 --> 00:59:55,080
in there. So yeah, the Russians
hacked our democracy right off

1039
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,180
the bat. It's like it's a
meaningless statement.

1040
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,210
John C. Dvorak: They lie It's a
lie. It's an outward lie. They

1041
01:00:00,210 --> 01:00:04,110
may have heard, they know the
difference between doing some

1042
01:00:04,260 --> 01:00:07,980
some what I would call fooling
around and actually having an

1043
01:00:07,980 --> 01:00:11,940
impact. And all the intelligence
agencies said they didn't have

1044
01:00:11,940 --> 01:00:14,880
an impact. So how come now is
roll out these guys and say, Oh,

1045
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,850
they did this. They did that
according to 17 intelligence

1046
01:00:17,850 --> 01:00:21,030
agencies, but when the same
intelligence agencies said the

1047
01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:25,800
Russians had zero impact on the
vote, they never mentioned that

1048
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,740
and then they lie about it. I
mean, this is it's important.

1049
01:00:28,740 --> 01:00:31,920
These people, these people
shouldn't be there beyond shame.

1050
01:00:31,950 --> 01:00:35,520
It's beyond shameful I beside
myself when I was just listening

1051
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:36,480
to this, Rob Reiner

1052
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,170
Adam Curry: tweeted yesterday,
we're up to 78 house members

1053
01:00:40,170 --> 01:00:43,800
calling for an impeachment
inquiry. At this rate. The most

1054
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,610
lawless president in the US
history may never be held

1055
01:00:47,610 --> 01:00:51,630
accountable for his crimes. I
gave up on the GOP cult long

1056
01:00:51,630 --> 01:00:55,080
ago. I hate to say it, but I'm
starting to feel that way about

1057
01:00:55,080 --> 01:01:00,090
the ineffectual dems. So he's
demure. He's downtrodden, he

1058
01:01:00,090 --> 01:01:03,870
feels like he's losing. He's
giving up he's at a breaking

1059
01:01:03,870 --> 01:01:04,410
point.

1060
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,290
Unknown: In 2016, the Russian
government attacked our

1061
01:01:07,290 --> 01:01:08,100
democracy

1062
01:01:08,130 --> 01:01:10,470
they interfered in the
presidential election in

1063
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:14,040
sweeping and systematic fashion.
They hacked emails,

1064
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:17,970
spread lies and social media and
made hundreds of contacts with

1065
01:01:17,970 --> 01:01:19,890
the Trump campaign all as

1066
01:01:19,890 --> 01:01:22,830
a part of a massive covert
operation to

1067
01:01:22,830 --> 01:01:24,750
help Donald Trump become
president.

1068
01:01:25,020 --> 01:01:29,040
In May 2017, the Department of
Justice appointed former FBI

1069
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,560
Director Robert Mueller as a
special counsel

1070
01:01:31,590 --> 01:01:33,120
to investigate Canadian.

1071
01:01:34,170 --> 01:01:37,380
Adam Curry: So disappointing to
me. I like Queer Eye I love the

1072
01:01:37,380 --> 01:01:42,510
Queer Eye show. But now they got
the the makeup queer, who now

1073
01:01:42,510 --> 01:01:45,660
has a handlebar mustache for
some reason that got him in this

1074
01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:48,510
video. Now, I just gotta hate
him for this. And I can't watch

1075
01:01:48,510 --> 01:01:50,850
the show. It's disappointing
tensions

1076
01:01:51,090 --> 01:01:54,450
Unknown: between Russia and the
Trump campaign. Muller delivered

1077
01:01:54,450 --> 01:01:58,920
his report on March 22. And it
contains the most damning

1078
01:01:58,950 --> 01:02:02,850
evidence ever compiled against a
sitting US President.

1079
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,600
Adam Curry: I mean, are you
kidding me? How about Nixon?

1080
01:02:08,190 --> 01:02:10,770
John C. Dvorak: How, by the way,
it also contained the fact that

1081
01:02:10,770 --> 01:02:14,130
the no agenda show is the best
podcast in the universe. If you

1082
01:02:14,130 --> 01:02:16,050
read it. Yeah, Red Dead there.

1083
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,850
Adam Curry: That's right. How
come you didn't say that? Huh?

1084
01:02:17,940 --> 01:02:18,390
Okay.

1085
01:02:19,740 --> 01:02:23,820
Unknown: Virtually no one has
read it and report virtually

1086
01:02:23,820 --> 01:02:26,310
Adam Curry: no one has read it
because you're too stupid and

1087
01:02:26,310 --> 01:02:28,830
you don't care and we're here to
save you was even released.

1088
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,990
Trump's Attorney General William
Barr

1089
01:02:31,170 --> 01:02:32,970
Unknown: lied about its
contents.

1090
01:02:34,260 --> 01:02:37,260
Adam Curry: This is the whole
message. Like you didn't hear it

1091
01:02:37,260 --> 01:02:39,690
right. You didn't understand it.
Right. It wasn't reported right.

1092
01:02:39,690 --> 01:02:40,410
You got it wrong.

1093
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,840
Unknown: He told the American
people that the President had

1094
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,820
done nothing wrong.

1095
01:02:45,030 --> 01:02:49,230
And Trump was more than happy to
echo that propaganda, total

1096
01:02:49,260 --> 01:02:53,490
exoneration complete
vindication.

1097
01:02:57,030 --> 01:03:00,930
That is an outright lie. Muller
found plenty of evidence of

1098
01:03:00,930 --> 01:03:01,440
collusion,

1099
01:03:01,470 --> 01:03:04,560
the Trump campaign knew about
Russia's illegal attack on our

1100
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,830
election. They welcomed it and
encouraged their help.

1101
01:03:08,130 --> 01:03:12,120
That's collusion. And recently
Donald Trump seated in the Oval

1102
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,760
Office acknowledged that
collusion in fact,

1103
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,030
he admitted that in a future
election, he would break the law

1104
01:03:18,030 --> 01:03:19,200
and do it all over

1105
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,570
Adam Curry: it. Now. This is
this is where it really irked

1106
01:03:21,570 --> 01:03:24,960
me. This is now they're going to
go into this Stephanopoulos

1107
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,830
interview, which was about
opposition research, oppo

1108
01:03:28,830 --> 01:03:32,940
research. It wasn't about this
secret, you know, help from

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01:03:32,940 --> 01:03:37,140
governments. He was about if I
think the exact question was, if

1110
01:03:37,140 --> 01:03:40,470
someone came along, said, Yeah,
I got some oppo research in

1111
01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:42,420
Trump's head. Yeah, I'd take it
I'd take a look at it. Of

1112
01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:44,520
course, you know, I don't have
to go run into the FBI. When

1113
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,470
someone gives you some oppo
research. It happens all the

1114
01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:50,160
time. In fact, that's how we got
here is because of Clinton

1115
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:55,080
funded oppo research. But what
are these jokes? Do? They cut

1116
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,140
all the APO part out and just
make it sound like he will be

1117
01:03:58,140 --> 01:04:00,540
happy to collude with the
Russians, again, knew

1118
01:04:00,540 --> 01:04:03,450
Unknown: about Russia's illegal
attack on our election. They

1119
01:04:03,450 --> 01:04:05,370
welcomed it and encouraged them
to

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01:04:05,370 --> 01:04:09,540
help. That's collusion. And
recently Donald Trump seated in

1121
01:04:09,540 --> 01:04:12,000
the Oval Office acknowledged
that collusion

1122
01:04:12,030 --> 01:04:15,420
in fact, he admitted that in a
future election, he would break

1123
01:04:15,420 --> 01:04:17,130
the law and do it all over it.

1124
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,730
Adam Curry: And he Yeah, John.
He admitted he would break the

1125
01:04:20,730 --> 01:04:23,430
law and do it all over again.
And that's not quite what he

1126
01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:23,760
said.

1127
01:04:24,420 --> 01:04:26,700
Unknown: I think you might want
to listen, I don't there's

1128
01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:28,890
nothing wrong with listening. I
think I'd want to hear it. You

1129
01:04:28,890 --> 01:04:31,170
want that kind of interference
in our elections. It's not an

1130
01:04:31,170 --> 01:04:33,570
interference. They have
information. I think I'd take

1131
01:04:33,570 --> 01:04:38,850
it. But we knew that. Here are
some other specific examples

1132
01:04:38,850 --> 01:04:40,110
from the Mueller report.

1133
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:44,340
One in the spring of 2016, a
Russian operative told a Trump

1134
01:04:44,340 --> 01:04:47,880
adviser that the Russian
government had dirt on Hillary

1135
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:48,540
Clinton. This

1136
01:04:48,540 --> 01:04:52,950
Adam Curry: is the George
Stephen Papadopoulos case.

1137
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,160
They're just rehashing stuff
with lies in

1138
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,160
Unknown: the form of 1000s of
emails. The advisor then work to

1139
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,710
arrange a meeting between the
campaign and the Russian

1140
01:05:01,710 --> 01:05:02,280
government,

1141
01:05:02,460 --> 01:05:08,940
that's collusion to in June of
2016, Donald Trump Jr. received

1142
01:05:08,940 --> 01:05:12,000
an email offering dirt on
Hillary Clinton as quote

1143
01:05:12,030 --> 01:05:15,990
part of the Russian government
support on quote of his Father

1144
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,180
God Jr. replied within minutes

1145
01:05:18,270 --> 01:05:22,980
if this what you say I love it,
especially later in the summer,

1146
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:23,970
four days

1147
01:05:23,970 --> 01:05:25,590
later on June Okay, I

1148
01:05:25,590 --> 01:05:27,300
John C. Dvorak: think we've run
out of steam here.

1149
01:05:27,450 --> 01:05:29,670
Adam Curry: Yeah, the only thing
I was waiting for but we don't

1150
01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:31,590
have to play it is just I

1151
01:05:31,620 --> 01:05:33,450
John C. Dvorak: want to say
something about this thing

1152
01:05:33,450 --> 01:05:36,810
overall. It's good. This is
counterproductive for these

1153
01:05:36,810 --> 01:05:41,670
people. I don't think I think a
member Yeah, if you're all in

1154
01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:45,210
fit, you know, 30% of the public
is going to go Democrat,

1155
01:05:45,210 --> 01:05:47,910
whatever it is, they're they're
far as they're concerned.

1156
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:50,460
Trump's the worst guy ever any
Republican would be it doesn't

1157
01:05:50,460 --> 01:05:54,870
make any difference who it is
Bush was the same way. The way

1158
01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:58,440
they present this, it's so
arrogant, that I think they're

1159
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:03,120
literally turning people the
other way, is like what is your

1160
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:09,720
problem? It is beyond the pale.
It's overproduced these people

1161
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:16,350
look insane none of them by the
way are attractive. We all know

1162
01:06:16,350 --> 01:06:18,540
and you'd think that people in
the show business would have a

1163
01:06:18,540 --> 01:06:21,150
clue about this Yeah, you gotta
you gotta look kind of good for

1164
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,230
good show. Attractive JIT De
Niro looks like the Death one

1165
01:06:25,230 --> 01:06:30,300
over you does and all these guys
baby the exception of fish burn

1166
01:06:30,330 --> 01:06:35,100
look terrible. Yeah, they look
sickly and they look kind of

1167
01:06:35,370 --> 01:06:37,770
they look decrepid you know

1168
01:06:37,770 --> 01:06:39,840
Adam Curry: what dinero what he
looks like he reminded me of

1169
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:46,440
like a hairball the cat pukes up
top of God it just that

1170
01:06:47,070 --> 01:06:48,900
John C. Dvorak: made you look
horrible point is is that

1171
01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:52,080
they're violating all their own
rules that they know better.

1172
01:06:52,170 --> 01:06:56,580
They you bring attractive people
out you make you know you sell

1173
01:06:56,580 --> 01:07:00,180
you sell you sell you're selling
the sales way you don't do this.

1174
01:07:00,180 --> 01:07:04,980
This is Trump derangement
syndrome. You look insane.

1175
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,530
Adam Curry: And with that, I
would like to thank you for your

1176
01:07:07,530 --> 01:07:11,010
courage and say in the morning
to you, the man who put the sea

1177
01:07:11,010 --> 01:07:13,470
in any collusion John see.

1178
01:07:15,810 --> 01:07:17,370
John C. Dvorak: Well, in the
morning to you Mr. Adam curry

1179
01:07:17,370 --> 01:07:19,410
also in the morning all ships as
he boots on the ground feet in

1180
01:07:19,410 --> 01:07:23,070
the air subs in the water. And
all the Dames and all the nights

1181
01:07:23,070 --> 01:07:24,420
out there. And in

1182
01:07:24,420 --> 01:07:27,300
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls on the polls in the troll

1183
01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:30,510
room. That's right, it's no
agenda stream.com That's where

1184
01:07:30,540 --> 01:07:34,770
we get lots of feedback, you can
check in there 24 hours a day,

1185
01:07:34,770 --> 01:07:38,520
seven days a week we got this
coupled to the no agenda stream

1186
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,090
so you can chat you can troll
you can just do whatever you

1187
01:07:42,090 --> 01:07:45,750
want. It's a very free for all
place. It's a lot of fun. And

1188
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:49,200
we'd like to stream live when we
record the show and get a lot of

1189
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,650
good feedback and it's often
good one liners from the troll

1190
01:07:52,650 --> 01:07:56,580
room no agenda stream.com It is
appreciated. And then also in in

1191
01:07:56,580 --> 01:08:02,640
the morning to cesium 137
created the artwork for that

1192
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:08,820
episode 1148 which was titled
Twitter rattling I should have a

1193
01:08:08,820 --> 01:08:12,090
clip on that later on, which was
what Trump was doing towards

1194
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:16,470
Iran and a number of different
cool pieces of artwork but we

1195
01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:22,020
really had to go with the no
agenda wine in a tube since we

1196
01:08:22,380 --> 01:08:27,450
talked about it a lot. And he he
nailed it. It's exactly

1197
01:08:27,450 --> 01:08:30,150
John C. Dvorak: debated this
picking this art did

1198
01:08:31,860 --> 01:08:33,720
Adam Curry: was one of those
there were other ones that we

1199
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,660
could use at another point or
repurpose for something else and

1200
01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:40,350
this was kind of one a one shot
show and you could really use

1201
01:08:40,350 --> 01:08:42,660
this one time one time only

1202
01:08:43,980 --> 01:08:46,110
John C. Dvorak: to have a few
people think for sure. This is

1203
01:08:46,110 --> 01:08:46,980
1149

1204
01:08:47,009 --> 01:08:49,469
Adam Curry: Yes no agenda art
generator.com is what I want to

1205
01:08:49,469 --> 01:08:51,209
say. And thank you CZ

1206
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:54,720
John C. Dvorak: starting with
John Bassano in Huntsville

1207
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:59,700
Alabama 333 dot four to ITM
gents. You'd be our first

1208
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:05,790
executive producer. Great shows
lately. Always really, Adam get

1209
01:09:05,790 --> 01:09:09,240
some Sharpton clips queued up
please. Birthday shout out to my

1210
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:14,310
smokin hot wife Tracy on June
23. Love you so much. Let this

1211
01:09:14,310 --> 01:09:17,520
donation count towards her Dame
hood almost there keep up the

1212
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,690
great work guys. John and Tracy
Bassano. He doesn't really

1213
01:09:21,690 --> 01:09:24,600
request anything but he plays
Sharpton.

1214
01:09:24,899 --> 01:09:26,009
Adam Curry: We'll give him some
karma too.

1215
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:31,830
Unknown: Thanks. Good evening.
Is this Crown Hall day two we

1216
01:09:31,830 --> 01:09:37,830
are watching. That was Attorney
General Eric Holder add about

1217
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:44,460
some Republicans at home already
beating the drums of war today

1218
01:09:44,460 --> 01:09:48,930
the Pentagon refuted that claim.
And he said the American people

1219
01:09:48,930 --> 01:09:53,670
do not want him to quote
Grinling either they do not want

1220
01:09:53,670 --> 01:10:01,110
him dribbling his thumb. Yes DIC
tea.

1221
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:06,600
Adam Curry: Oh, sorry. Karma
misfired let me give it to you

1222
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,890
you've got karma. Thank you very
much and Tracy is on the list.

1223
01:10:12,210 --> 01:10:16,830
John C. Dvorak: Edie Lu booty A?
No jingles no karma during the

1224
01:10:16,830 --> 01:10:22,800
$33 He is somewhere I don't have
his town where he's living to

1225
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,110
keep up the great work he does
you hear from you and thank you.

1226
01:10:25,740 --> 01:10:27,240
And now we need a sound effect.

1227
01:10:27,330 --> 01:10:31,320
Adam Curry: Oh, ooh, hold on a
second. Yes. I'm sorry I'm

1228
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:45,270
lacking and I think we'll try
this one no more. Oh yes, it's

1229
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:46,170
the Grand Duke.

1230
01:10:46,740 --> 01:10:48,810
John C. Dvorak: That's well he's
calling himself arch. Arch.

1231
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:54,000
Arch. Arch. Arch arch Duke
sorry, arch Duke. News bomb that

1232
01:10:54,000 --> 01:11:04,980
314 15 Drunk donation a little
bit I have. Tina and Adam May

1233
01:11:04,980 --> 01:11:08,430
the smiles and love continue
with abundance. Yes, thank you.

1234
01:11:08,580 --> 01:11:12,960
JC de JCD May the mudflats be
there the chair squeak squeaky,

1235
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,890
squeaky squeaky. And you and
yours be blessed. I truly

1236
01:11:16,890 --> 01:11:20,430
enjoyed talking to Eric and
Austin. I reached out to

1237
01:11:20,430 --> 01:11:26,850
Fletcher and the P goat. I pick
it I pick it from my I can pick

1238
01:11:26,850 --> 01:11:30,870
it for my call outs and for the
life of me I do not know why

1239
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:35,340
others haven't. Not sure others
will Chris Wilson Fletcher and

1240
01:11:35,340 --> 01:11:39,780
many can get involved as do my
grand duking match coming soon.

1241
01:11:39,780 --> 01:11:47,040
He's very hammered naming the of
the studio my opinion. It should

1242
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,620
be limited to the executive and
associated executive producers

1243
01:11:49,620 --> 01:11:52,110
for the following week, the
Sunday at Thursday show

1244
01:11:52,110 --> 01:11:56,580
announced from the studio blog.
During those episodes, ideas are

1245
01:11:56,580 --> 01:12:00,690
given in something something's
picked live or later. At some

1246
01:12:00,690 --> 01:12:04,470
point one of you will get the
aha moment and it ends as

1247
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:10,530
Vonnegut says so it goes ahead I
appreciate ready Per Se ya know

1248
01:12:10,530 --> 01:12:10,950
what he's doing?

1249
01:12:10,980 --> 01:12:12,900
Adam Curry: Well I did have a
thought about this we were

1250
01:12:12,900 --> 01:12:16,860
talking about studio naming
rights. And you know, we don't

1251
01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:19,440
want this we don't want to have
like some kind of ads on

1252
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:22,170
commercial because it before you
know it's like you didn't read

1253
01:12:22,170 --> 01:12:24,600
the name right you didn't say
the studio name right and we

1254
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,140
have two meetings is that we
don't want to go that's like no

1255
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:31,200
John C. Dvorak: no no no that we
need to hate but

1256
01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:35,910
Adam Curry: I was thinking how
about it's on a monthly basis so

1257
01:12:35,910 --> 01:12:43,020
like this morning just as a test
I said this is the SIR forgotten

1258
01:12:43,020 --> 01:12:48,270
his name already so much for so
much for the naming rights. This

1259
01:12:48,270 --> 01:12:51,960
is the SIR Blake soundproof
studio, because he'd sent these

1260
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,010
things over. So it's to me it
would be anyone who donates and

1261
01:12:56,010 --> 01:12:59,400
you know, that has a note 50 $50
or but we don't read all the

1262
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,300
notes but you could nominate,
you can nominate someone

1263
01:13:03,300 --> 01:13:07,830
something or as some kind of
name for the studio. And, and

1264
01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:11,820
the committee that would be you
and I John, we have a meeting

1265
01:13:11,850 --> 01:13:14,520
which will take about three
minutes. And we'll say okay,

1266
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,430
well here's all the nominations
and maybe it's so it's an Eagle

1267
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:21,210
Scout or someone did something,
whatever it is, and then we just

1268
01:13:21,210 --> 01:13:24,180
keep the studio name for one
month for that person just as an

1269
01:13:24,210 --> 01:13:30,690
extra thing. Just something nice
to do. Okay,

1270
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:31,770
John C. Dvorak: well that's one
thought.

1271
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,400
Adam Curry: We'll have another
meeting later is what I'm

1272
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:36,360
hearing you say?

1273
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:43,350
John C. Dvorak: A bent a halt it
leash the lady down dam of the

1274
01:13:43,380 --> 01:13:48,360
dry lands deck or DRY DRY DRY
lawn deck dryland deck.

1275
01:13:48,510 --> 01:13:51,150
Adam Curry: I think it's bench
to help naturally. I think it's

1276
01:13:51,150 --> 01:13:55,080
been to help at least lady Dane
dame of the dryland deck.

1277
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,140
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, dry land
deck and mountains not that far

1278
01:13:58,140 --> 01:14:01,410
away. She's an Executive
Associate Executive producer

1279
01:14:01,410 --> 01:14:07,260
from Switzerland. $233. I want
to thank you and all the

1280
01:14:07,260 --> 01:14:09,900
producers for the jobs karma I
asked for last month for my

1281
01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:13,230
lovely husband, a mainframe DBA
dude named Ben.

1282
01:14:13,260 --> 01:14:16,290
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, hold on.
Hold on. So this she says her

1283
01:14:16,290 --> 01:14:21,450
husband is a mainframe database
administrator. There's not a lot

1284
01:14:21,450 --> 01:14:25,080
of jobs because they're filled
up by old dudes who can still do

1285
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,620
that work? And she said, we're
really looking. I hope he can

1286
01:14:28,620 --> 01:14:31,140
find some Can you give him some
job karma? And I think we had

1287
01:14:31,140 --> 01:14:34,980
two or three producers who
contacted us and we put them in

1288
01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:37,860
contact with them. Because they
said, Oh, yes, we've got a gig.

1289
01:14:37,860 --> 01:14:39,870
We got a gig for him. So it's
something worked out and

1290
01:14:39,870 --> 01:14:40,740
couldn't be happier.

1291
01:14:41,370 --> 01:14:44,400
John C. Dvorak: He says he's
worked his magic. He's got the

1292
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,360
job and he starts work on
Tuesday. 815 very odd time. I

1293
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:52,020
know. But we didn't complain.
And I would like to ask for some

1294
01:14:52,020 --> 01:14:55,740
special karma to send to him for
a good start to this new phase

1295
01:14:55,890 --> 01:14:59,760
of his life. I nearly went I
really want this to be a success

1296
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,150
that Once you're in a job like
that, Todd, you should be good

1297
01:15:03,180 --> 01:15:07,440
to be set if you're good to go,
because these big systems are

1298
01:15:07,470 --> 01:15:11,040
very difficult. Yeah, thank you
for all you do and for keeping

1299
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:15,630
me entertained while I commute
and move and mow the lawn, love

1300
01:15:15,630 --> 01:15:20,670
and light and benty lady named
Amy dryland deck. I love the

1301
01:15:20,670 --> 01:15:24,120
introduction of Lady and makes
so much sense. Thank you for

1302
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,270
that. Thank you to the Dame who
introduced you to it? It's

1303
01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:29,220
great. Yes.

1304
01:15:29,310 --> 01:15:31,740
Adam Curry: All right, Lady Dane
and here's some common

1305
01:15:33,780 --> 01:15:35,460
Unknown: you've got karma.

1306
01:15:38,130 --> 01:15:40,830
John C. Dvorak: Jim Bennett from
Toronto, Ontario comes in a tune

1307
01:15:40,830 --> 01:15:46,680
of $12.12. Jets home from the
home of the world champion

1308
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:51,060
basketball raptors. Oh, by the
way today. Jim, you and your

1309
01:15:51,060 --> 01:15:55,140
Raptors can go over to the get
to the Toronto gay parade.

1310
01:15:56,580 --> 01:15:57,480
Adam Curry: Wow, what does

1311
01:15:58,770 --> 01:16:00,720
John C. Dvorak: that tell him?
I'd given us a heads up as to

1312
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,590
today's day. Canadian Canadian
Canada. Davia can only be

1313
01:16:04,590 --> 01:16:07,770
considered the wellspring of
environmental insanity. Well,

1314
01:16:07,770 --> 01:16:11,580
this is true. On Sunday, the
government declared a climate

1315
01:16:11,580 --> 01:16:15,630
emergency a situation apparently
unworn, or warranting nuanced

1316
01:16:15,630 --> 01:16:18,780
steps still to be determined by
the likes of environmental

1317
01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:22,680
minister Catherine McKenna.
She's a maniac by the way. Yeah,

1318
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,320
we played a clip from her. We
played plenty we played more

1319
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,770
than one. Maybe she would just
yell through the legislation in

1320
01:16:28,770 --> 01:16:32,160
Parliament. For the clip you
played a few shows ago when she

1321
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,550
told intrepid bar goers that the
best way to get things passed

1322
01:16:35,790 --> 01:16:40,230
was to yell louder than everyone
else. Exactly. But wait, sunrise

1323
01:16:40,230 --> 01:16:45,900
on Tuesday saw the same band of
Trudeau miscreants announcing

1324
01:16:45,900 --> 01:16:48,840
the approval of the trans
mountain pipeline expansion you

1325
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,800
this is a big, big scandal. Oh,
I haven't followed this. Oh,

1326
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,730
yeah. Yeah, good. Trudeau
knuckled under to the pipeline,

1327
01:16:56,730 --> 01:16:57,180
folks,

1328
01:16:57,210 --> 01:17:01,380
Adam Curry: of course. Because
climate crisis,

1329
01:17:01,470 --> 01:17:04,080
John C. Dvorak: I thought we're
going green. Anyway already

1330
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,110
sharpening the pitchforks and
garlic necklaces in response to

1331
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:13,470
the federal Carbon Tax fight. We
hear today from a CBC poll that

1332
01:17:13,470 --> 01:17:15,930
the overwhelming majority of
candidate aliens are only

1333
01:17:15,930 --> 01:17:21,270
prepared to pay $100 annually to
counter act any outlandish

1334
01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:28,620
global warming cooling. Hold on
a second. 100 just came up on my

1335
01:17:28,620 --> 01:17:31,980
screen we don't want to deal
with Oh, brother. What

1336
01:17:31,980 --> 01:17:35,130
Adam Curry: happened? Yeah,
okay. Hang on, hang on. Sounds

1337
01:17:35,130 --> 01:17:36,300
like a Windows issue.

1338
01:17:37,259 --> 01:17:39,179
John C. Dvorak: Came up and
wants to reboot. My machine

1339
01:17:39,179 --> 01:17:45,479
does. Standby buddy. We have
emergency emergency standby

1340
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:46,199
where she was going

1341
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:48,750
Adam Curry: to stop tape.

1342
01:17:49,290 --> 01:17:51,000
John C. Dvorak: No, don't know.
I just did need to click a

1343
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,980
couple of things here to push
this off to Saturday.

1344
01:17:53,190 --> 01:17:55,230
Unknown: Everybody John's got it
under control. He's just going

1345
01:17:55,230 --> 01:17:57,210
to click a couple of things and
everything will return to

1346
01:17:57,210 --> 01:18:00,000
normal. If you feel dizzy at
anytime just look at the ground

1347
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,590
and it will all go away. And
we're

1348
01:18:01,590 --> 01:18:03,900
John C. Dvorak: back. And you're
already sharpening the

1349
01:18:03,900 --> 01:18:06,390
pitchforks as he goes on. They
only want to pay 100 bucks in

1350
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:11,280
Canada. Oh, what WTF he says
those of us in the economically

1351
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,060
cozy claims of Ontario are now
seeing why the rest of the

1352
01:18:15,060 --> 01:18:18,570
country Don yellow vests and
descended on the nation's

1353
01:18:18,570 --> 01:18:23,190
capital Ottawa weeks ago. This
ridiculous game is up here.

1354
01:18:23,340 --> 01:18:27,930
People smell a rat and ate Nick.
But he managed the game is up

1355
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:32,010
now. Yes, yes. Yes. Okay, Jim,
thanks. Thank you very much.

1356
01:18:32,370 --> 01:18:35,460
Good. Good work with your
raptors. People have funded the

1357
01:18:35,460 --> 01:18:42,060
parade. Steven Lind in Cape Town
Western Province, Zaire your

1358
01:18:42,060 --> 01:18:48,690
axes in South Africa 20304. I
haven't done alo while so de

1359
01:18:48,690 --> 01:18:50,280
douche me right away.

1360
01:18:52,290 --> 01:18:55,290
Unknown: You've been de deuced
I'm not

1361
01:18:55,290 --> 01:18:57,840
John C. Dvorak: one of your
sissy Austin San Fran dog

1362
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,890
idolizes. But I do have a dog
and he is epic. He travels

1363
01:19:01,890 --> 01:19:05,070
everywhere with me including two
long commutes each day to and

1364
01:19:05,070 --> 01:19:08,880
from work in my car. About a
year ago. Well listen to your

1365
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,150
show on the way to work during
the donation segment, which I

1366
01:19:12,150 --> 01:19:14,460
always listened to at 15 XP.

1367
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:20,100
Adam Curry: I think it's at 1.55

1368
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,210
John C. Dvorak: Bailey started
howling profusely from the

1369
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:31,860
backseat it wasn't after your
dogs or people to jingle which

1370
01:19:32,430 --> 01:19:36,090
ends obviously with the howl but
rather after the goat karma

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01:19:36,090 --> 01:19:38,970
jingle he began to do this every
time the jingle played and

1372
01:19:38,970 --> 01:19:41,790
eventually it became every time
the karma jingle played

1373
01:19:41,790 --> 01:19:45,090
especially the jobs karma
Hillary it's not Hillary that's

1374
01:19:45,090 --> 01:19:50,490
actually Nancy Pelosi. Saying
that it is difficult to capture

1375
01:19:50,490 --> 01:19:55,530
because an A from my phone is
Plan A from my phone and I can't

1376
01:19:55,530 --> 01:19:59,190
activate the camera and continue
playback. But my beautiful new

1377
01:19:59,190 --> 01:20:02,640
wife helped him him helped film
him a few of these events and

1378
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,620
have attached them I have to
look at these so I

1379
01:20:04,620 --> 01:20:06,810
Adam Curry: can play one of the
sound bits because they're all

1380
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:10,080
pretty much the same and in
video they're much funnier but

1381
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:24,570
here we go here's Bailey jobs,
jobs and jobs that's all does

1382
01:20:24,570 --> 01:20:29,280
that consistently whenever the
karma jingle comes on? Wow,

1383
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,160
isn't that great? Yeah, I'd like
a better

1384
01:20:32,670 --> 01:20:34,950
John C. Dvorak: like a better
Oh, that's a nice dog he's house

1385
01:20:34,980 --> 01:20:37,080
Adam Curry: I'd like a little
better recording so we can do it

1386
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,710
could be a Bailey karma because
it's hilarious he doesn't earn Q

1387
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,830
every single time. Good dog

1388
01:20:44,250 --> 01:20:46,170
John C. Dvorak: working towards
knighthood I like to request

1389
01:20:46,170 --> 01:20:50,040
that from you a Bailey karma
which is a jobs goat karma

1390
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,730
followed by Bailey's howl from
one of the Atashi videos give me

1391
01:20:53,910 --> 01:20:56,760
another words where you get it
we'll get a better copy of this

1392
01:20:56,790 --> 01:21:00,030
and then we'll do it we will
create what create that given

1393
01:21:00,030 --> 01:21:03,990
the fact that I'm a dog on our
new Are you are you are Adam a

1394
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:09,300
John described dog Hey. I hope
you see the glory and the

1395
01:21:09,300 --> 01:21:12,750
attached fu clips and amazing
coincidence or occurrence.

1396
01:21:12,930 --> 01:21:15,990
Otherwise love the show. As
always. Congrats on your

1397
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:19,050
wedding. Hearing your travel
insights tells me you clearly

1398
01:21:19,050 --> 01:21:23,280
don't travel nearly enough.
Let's do a Cape Town meetup.

1399
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,550
Adam Curry: Good idea. I'd love
I'd love to do a Cape Town meet

1400
01:21:26,550 --> 01:21:28,860
up but who wouldn't? Is that
where white people get killed?

1401
01:21:28,860 --> 01:21:30,000
Or is that not Cape Town?

1402
01:21:30,090 --> 01:21:31,800
John C. Dvorak: That using a
joke joke? Oh, okay.

1403
01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:32,880
Adam Curry: Well, then we're
good to go.

1404
01:21:33,660 --> 01:21:37,470
John C. Dvorak: Now Johannesburg
is fine if you're American. Cape

1405
01:21:37,470 --> 01:21:41,220
Town is a really nice, special
class of old fashioned place.

1406
01:21:41,250 --> 01:21:41,550
Yeah.

1407
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,860
Adam Curry: And they speak Dutch
so they speak Dutch everywhere

1408
01:21:43,860 --> 01:21:46,200
Africans? Well, I can get away
with it.

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01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:49,050
John C. Dvorak: Most of them
speak good English. If you and

1410
01:21:49,050 --> 01:21:51,960
John both calm I pledged to put
you up and take your wine

1411
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:57,690
tasting once a day. Once Once
probably in Franschhoek. And I

1412
01:21:57,690 --> 01:21:58,020
won't

1413
01:21:58,230 --> 01:22:01,800
Adam Curry: vintage. vintage
look. What vintage look.

1414
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,760
John C. Dvorak: Your fresh hook
is the main Oh area. There's

1415
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:12,120
other places are within it
usually. It means the French

1416
01:22:12,150 --> 01:22:17,130
area his world of French moved
to make wine. Most of the wine

1417
01:22:17,130 --> 01:22:20,070
until recently has been crap,
but now it's getting pretty

1418
01:22:20,070 --> 01:22:25,800
good. He will swap your mic out
for a dildo and hide it in your

1419
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:31,320
bag before you leave. In other
words, look out all the best

1420
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,600
from Rainy Cape Town Steve Lind

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01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:39,540
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

1422
01:22:41,730 --> 01:22:49,260
You've got karma kind of did a
Bailey

1423
01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:52,020
John C. Dvorak: Ron way you
probably wanted to do but you

1424
01:22:52,020 --> 01:22:55,620
added something to that when Ron
Woodbury and parts of no $200

1425
01:22:55,620 --> 01:22:58,440
You realize Associate Executive
Producer enjoying your show in

1426
01:22:58,440 --> 01:23:01,590
the comfort of my home he
writes, which is cool with

1427
01:23:01,620 --> 01:23:05,640
electricity supplied from a
clean coal plant power plant

1428
01:23:05,970 --> 01:23:09,510
meeting steak from a methane
producing from methane producing

1429
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:13,860
cattle, which of course was
cooked on a natural gas grill.

1430
01:23:14,250 --> 01:23:17,790
This is how we start the summer
in the flyover states all the

1431
01:23:17,790 --> 01:23:19,170
best run I use briquettes

1432
01:23:19,620 --> 01:23:24,090
Unknown: to give you a karma
karma karma

1433
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,770
John C. Dvorak: so there was a
we have over this certain parts

1434
01:23:28,770 --> 01:23:31,860
of the year we have these clear
the a clean the air day or

1435
01:23:31,860 --> 01:23:34,290
whatever they're called, oh,
we're not allowed to burn wood?

1436
01:23:35,220 --> 01:23:38,130
Well, it turns out so I went and
looked at the regs I'm thinking,

1437
01:23:38,250 --> 01:23:40,440
you know, clear the air, clean
the air, wherever the hell they

1438
01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:42,510
call it something you're not
supposed to be you can't use

1439
01:23:42,510 --> 01:23:45,990
your fireplace. You can't do
this. You can't do that. But you

1440
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:49,650
can use your outdoor barbecue
for cooking you cooking is

1441
01:23:49,650 --> 01:23:53,730
exempt from the rules. So you
can go back there and torch off

1442
01:23:53,730 --> 01:23:59,550
your oak and cook yourself a
nice steak. I torch off my own

1443
01:23:59,550 --> 01:24:02,280
this morning worry about the air
pollution folks coming over and

1444
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:03,630
giving you a citation.

1445
01:24:04,380 --> 01:24:07,530
Unknown: All righty. Is that it?

1446
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:09,990
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's it.
I want to thank all these folks

1447
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:12,150
for being executive producers
and Associate Executive

1448
01:24:12,150 --> 01:24:13,860
producers for show 1149.

1449
01:24:14,490 --> 01:24:16,500
Adam Curry: And these are
credits that are incredibly

1450
01:24:16,500 --> 01:24:18,840
valuable. They're not easy to
come by. Because as you can

1451
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,540
tell, you have to be an
executive or social executive

1452
01:24:21,540 --> 01:24:24,210
producer. But they are
recognized by people in show

1453
01:24:24,210 --> 01:24:28,290
business people who look at
profiles on LinkedIn and you can

1454
01:24:28,290 --> 01:24:31,230
always put it into your Twitter
handle your social media, it

1455
01:24:31,230 --> 01:24:34,170
does give you standing. And we
really appreciate it because

1456
01:24:34,170 --> 01:24:36,360
just like Hollywood would like
to give you those credits up

1457
01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:40,170
front and as early as possible.
And thank you again for your

1458
01:24:40,170 --> 01:24:44,490
courage and your support of the
no agenda show. And thank you to

1459
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,190
everybody else. We'll be
thinking more people $50 And

1460
01:24:47,190 --> 01:24:49,770
above and we'll be here for
another show on Thursday. You

1461
01:24:49,770 --> 01:24:51,720
can remember us and support us
at VO

1462
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,390
Unknown: rack.org/and.

1463
01:24:54,780 --> 01:24:56,190
Adam Curry: I think we've
learned quite a lot from this

1464
01:24:56,190 --> 01:24:59,040
donation segment including all
about Bailey

1465
01:24:59,370 --> 01:25:03,750
Unknown: art for me Is this we
go out for hit people in the

1466
01:25:03,750 --> 01:25:22,500
mouth? Righto

1467
01:25:25,230 --> 01:25:27,420
John C. Dvorak: All right. So
what are we get now?

1468
01:25:27,900 --> 01:25:30,090
Adam Curry: I don't know what
you got? Well, I

1469
01:25:30,090 --> 01:25:31,980
John C. Dvorak: got a couple of
things. Let's go into and talk

1470
01:25:31,980 --> 01:25:34,830
about, you know, we got this
situation where World War Three

1471
01:25:34,830 --> 01:25:40,080
on was broke out. Yeah and then
Trump backed off and said he

1472
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,240
doesn't he's gonna kill 150
people it's not worth the

1473
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,460
trouble it's not worth the
effort is not worth it because

1474
01:25:44,460 --> 01:25:46,560
human life is more valuable than
actually ever

1475
01:25:46,590 --> 01:25:49,740
Adam Curry: before before we
launch into it on the last show,

1476
01:25:49,980 --> 01:25:55,290
at the very beginning, we got
this. It was just breaking news

1477
01:25:55,440 --> 01:26:01,530
that Trump had tweeted that Iran
had made a mistake. And in fact,

1478
01:26:01,530 --> 01:26:05,100
this is where the title of the
show came from Twitter rattling

1479
01:26:05,130 --> 01:26:07,590
I just want to replay the clip
as we received it.

1480
01:26:07,860 --> 01:26:10,200
John C. Dvorak: Yesterday. This
is a good Yeah, we did the we

1481
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,350
kind of analyzed this after the
show. And we wanted to do a 10.

1482
01:26:13,350 --> 01:26:16,830
Today Show and I and I wrote
down a note to do this. And then

1483
01:26:16,860 --> 01:26:18,300
of course, I don't know where
that note went.

1484
01:26:18,570 --> 01:26:20,760
Adam Curry: It's okay, because I
wrote the note down as well.

1485
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,570
Maybe I just found yours. So
here's the initial reporting

1486
01:26:24,570 --> 01:26:25,710
right after the tweet

1487
01:26:25,740 --> 01:26:27,960
Unknown: president's offering
his first reaction now to the

1488
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:31,380
shoot down of an American drone
by the Iranians last night, the

1489
01:26:31,380 --> 01:26:35,490
President issuing a one sentence
tweet saying Iran made a very

1490
01:26:35,490 --> 01:26:38,520
big mistake that coming just in
the past couple of minutes at

1491
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,320
the same time, we're getting
information that there is

1492
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,350
scheduled to be a meeting here
at the White House, to gauge

1493
01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:47,490
response to the Iranian shoot
down the President's tweet, Iran

1494
01:26:47,490 --> 01:26:50,370
made a very big mistake, of
course begging the question of

1495
01:26:50,370 --> 01:26:52,800
what the White House and what
the administration is prepared

1496
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,370
to do about it, if anything, any
kind of response at all. I spoke

1497
01:26:56,370 --> 01:26:58,710
to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the
White House press secretary just

1498
01:26:58,710 --> 01:27:02,190
a few minutes ago. She said the
President was briefed last night

1499
01:27:02,190 --> 01:27:05,520
and has been briefed again this
morning on what the US military

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01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,700
knows about that shoot down so
no indication at this point of

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01:27:08,700 --> 01:27:12,210
what any potential US response
would be. But the President I

1502
01:27:12,210 --> 01:27:14,700
don't think you can call this
saber rattling maybe just a

1503
01:27:14,700 --> 01:27:17,190
Twitter rattle but issuing a one
sentence statement on Twitter

1504
01:27:17,190 --> 01:27:19,320
here in reaction to that
shutdown, guys, I mean, there's

1505
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,770
a reaction in the market crude
oil is jumping on this news. WTI

1506
01:27:22,770 --> 01:27:24,210
now up 5%.

1507
01:27:24,450 --> 01:27:27,870
Adam Curry: So we took that the
same way it was reported, which

1508
01:27:27,870 --> 01:27:31,170
is, oh, they made a very big
mistake. I'm gonna kick your

1509
01:27:31,170 --> 01:27:36,930
ass. I'm Trump. I'm gonna kill
everybody. And turns out, it was

1510
01:27:36,930 --> 01:27:40,890
really he was taken out of
context. We had no idea what the

1511
01:27:40,890 --> 01:27:43,080
context was of this mistake. I

1512
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:47,370
Unknown: think probably Iran
made a mistake. I would imagine

1513
01:27:47,370 --> 01:27:51,420
it was a general or somebody
that made a mistake in shooting

1514
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,920
that drone down. And fortunately
that drone was unarmed. It was

1515
01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:00,570
not there was no man in it.
There was no it was just it was

1516
01:28:00,570 --> 01:28:03,090
over international waters
clearly over international

1517
01:28:03,090 --> 01:28:05,400
waters but we didn't have a man
or woman in the drone we had

1518
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,500
nobody in the drone Are you
still up in would have made a

1519
01:28:07,500 --> 01:28:08,220
big difference?

1520
01:28:08,460 --> 01:28:10,410
Adam Curry: So we all kind of
know what he said there. But I

1521
01:28:10,410 --> 01:28:13,740
just wanted to point out that
you know, this is a real problem

1522
01:28:13,740 --> 01:28:17,100
with this headline breaking news
bullcrap. Because apparently all

1523
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:20,010
he wanted to say goes well they
made a big mistake and they're

1524
01:28:20,010 --> 01:28:21,990
lucky cuz we didn't go and kill
anybody.

1525
01:28:23,370 --> 01:28:25,950
John C. Dvorak: And well, this
brings me back to somebody

1526
01:28:25,950 --> 01:28:29,700
calling me out on Twitter for
doing this again and I we talked

1527
01:28:29,700 --> 01:28:33,480
about this on the show, we tried
to not do it. And this be sent

1528
01:28:33,690 --> 01:28:40,380
indications on these online
things are is very flaky is not

1529
01:28:40,380 --> 01:28:45,660
a good form of communication and
sarcasm in particular. Doesn't

1530
01:28:45,660 --> 01:28:50,730
work. Because you can't get that
tone in there. So you should

1531
01:28:50,730 --> 01:28:53,400
never be sarcastic and I was
sarcastic and one of my tweets

1532
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,820
and somebody called me out. And
I had to admit that yes, it was

1533
01:28:56,820 --> 01:28:59,460
a mistake on my part because I
try not to do this I'm not I'm

1534
01:28:59,460 --> 01:29:05,010
trying I would try not to do on
the show. It is a form of humor

1535
01:29:05,010 --> 01:29:07,740
that you know if you think
you're clever, you do sarcasm

1536
01:29:07,740 --> 01:29:10,260
all the time. And that's what
Ben Shapiro's big problem is

1537
01:29:10,260 --> 01:29:13,410
because if you take these
comments out of context is very

1538
01:29:13,410 --> 01:29:17,670
easy to make you look like a
doofus and and this was a

1539
01:29:17,670 --> 01:29:24,510
classic example of being Miss
construed, yes. Now my favorite

1540
01:29:24,510 --> 01:29:27,240
line I did get a funny loud
Alpha tour when somebody said

1541
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:31,200
when Trump says I'm not gonna
bomb because I want to kill 150

1542
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:34,590
and somebody's comment was worst
Hitler ever.

1543
01:29:37,470 --> 01:29:42,270
Adam Curry: He did a follow up
with with Chip chip Chuck. Chuck

1544
01:29:42,270 --> 01:29:46,560
chip, Chuck Todd Todd cast. He
did a follow up interview. I

1545
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:47,700
have a clip that in June

1546
01:29:47,700 --> 01:29:51,750
Unknown: Greenlight something or
had you said if we do it I'll do

1547
01:29:51,750 --> 01:29:52,350
this. What

1548
01:29:52,350 --> 01:29:54,840
was it what was the order you
nothing is green lighted until

1549
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,480
the very end because things
change, right? She never gave a

1550
01:29:57,480 --> 01:30:00,930
final No, no, no, but we had
something ready To go subject to

1551
01:30:00,930 --> 01:30:04,650
my approval, and they came in,
and they came in about a half an

1552
01:30:04,650 --> 01:30:08,190
hour before they said, so we're
about ready to go. I said, I

1553
01:30:08,190 --> 01:30:11,670
want a better definition we're
playing, we're about ready to

1554
01:30:11,670 --> 01:30:16,200
go. No, but they would have been
pretty soon. And things would

1555
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,630
have happened to a point where
you wouldn't turn back who

1556
01:30:18,630 --> 01:30:22,620
couldn't turn back. So they came
and they said, Sir, we're ready

1557
01:30:22,620 --> 01:30:24,870
to go. We'd like a decision. I
said, I want to know something

1558
01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:29,310
before you go, how many people
will be killed? In this case,

1559
01:30:29,310 --> 01:30:32,550
Iranians. I said, How many
people are going to be killed?

1560
01:30:33,780 --> 01:30:36,600
Sir, I'd like to get back to you
on that. Great people, these

1561
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:42,480
generals, they said, came back
said, Sir, approximately 150.

1562
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,630
And I thought about it for a
second. I said, You know what,

1563
01:30:45,630 --> 01:30:51,420
they shut down an unmanned drone
plane, whatever you want to call

1564
01:30:51,420 --> 01:30:57,360
it. And here we are sitting with
150 dead people. That would have

1565
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,300
taken place probably within a
half an hour after I said, go

1566
01:31:00,300 --> 01:31:04,110
ahead. And I didn't like it. I
didn't think it was. I didn't

1567
01:31:04,110 --> 01:31:05,220
think it was proportionate.

1568
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,540
Adam Curry: If that is the
truth, it's very interesting.

1569
01:31:13,140 --> 01:31:15,810
But by the way I have and I'll
put them in the show notes. I

1570
01:31:15,810 --> 01:31:22,860
have the flight tracks of the
drone, and I have the Iran FLIR

1571
01:31:22,890 --> 01:31:26,880
that's the flight information
region. And you can see that the

1572
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:31,980
drone definitely passed over
their airspace. Yep,

1573
01:31:32,250 --> 01:31:35,880
John C. Dvorak: I probably did.
And I think maybe one of the

1574
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,160
reasons they didn't do this
attack, and even though Trump

1575
01:31:38,310 --> 01:31:43,800
has his nice story, I have to
ask the media, just if they were

1576
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:50,280
anyone was listening. Has the
Iranian general had the drone in

1577
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:54,570
front of him? And he was showing
it to the media, if it was over

1578
01:31:54,570 --> 01:31:58,650
international waters? Where did
all these pieces of drone come

1579
01:31:58,650 --> 01:32:03,300
from? And it's anyone's asked
the President and was, well, if

1580
01:32:03,300 --> 01:32:06,690
it was over clearly, as he said,
clearly over international

1581
01:32:06,690 --> 01:32:09,660
waters, where do all these
pieces of drone come from?

1582
01:32:09,660 --> 01:32:12,840
Because this thing crashes into
the drink. It's not going to

1583
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:17,100
float to shore. It's not made
out of balsa wood is a big heavy

1584
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:21,900
craft to size. Pretty much
almost the size of a 737 at

1585
01:32:21,900 --> 01:32:26,130
least in wingspan is the big
drone to predator. And they it's

1586
01:32:26,130 --> 01:32:29,430
it hits the water, boom, it goes
down to the bottom. It's metal.

1587
01:32:29,970 --> 01:32:32,730
So where do all these pieces
come from? Unless it was shot

1588
01:32:32,730 --> 01:32:36,360
down over land and it landed did
pieces landed all over the

1589
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:40,530
place? Did anybody bother to ask
that simple question?

1590
01:32:43,980 --> 01:32:48,030
Adam Curry: No, why would we do
that? It makes no sense. I don't

1591
01:32:48,030 --> 01:32:52,080
think the person is truthful
though. And I can't I've got

1592
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,020
Unknown: the who should come to
light.

1593
01:32:56,100 --> 01:32:58,710
John C. Dvorak: I think he's
balsa being misled. I mean, the

1594
01:32:58,710 --> 01:33:01,470
fact that they keep arguing that
was over international waters

1595
01:33:01,470 --> 01:33:06,120
when it clearly wasn't let my
version of your tracking data

1596
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,480
and the fact that he had the
drone pieces in front of him.

1597
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:12,480
Adam Curry: Well, let me play
this clip again.

1598
01:33:12,540 --> 01:33:16,050
Unknown: I've got information
man, new shit has come to light.

1599
01:33:16,050 --> 01:33:16,080
I

1600
01:33:16,830 --> 01:33:19,890
Adam Curry: can't back it up
with any proof yet. But

1601
01:33:19,890 --> 01:33:25,920
apparently, as the fighter jets
or bomber aircraft were ready to

1602
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:29,490
take off for their targets
involving Iran, US intelligence

1603
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:33,150
intercepted a quote
communication. I don't know

1604
01:33:33,150 --> 01:33:36,780
exactly what that means. That
had a full version of the

1605
01:33:36,780 --> 01:33:41,730
finalized target lists they were
ordered to destroy. The version

1606
01:33:41,730 --> 01:33:44,700
Iran received was not the
finalized list, but it was one

1607
01:33:44,700 --> 01:33:47,940
of the lists mulled over prior
to the final decision. Some of

1608
01:33:47,940 --> 01:33:51,690
the targets on the list were
sent to Iran. Were actually on

1609
01:33:51,690 --> 01:33:55,290
the final target selection list.
Upon receipt of the target list.

1610
01:33:55,500 --> 01:34:02,160
US satellite assets watched Iran
detect hasty moving of anti

1611
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,800
aircraft and surface to air
missile assets towards the

1612
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:08,760
targets to defend them. It
became clear to us intelligence

1613
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,850
that American pilots could be
flying to their deaths if the

1614
01:34:11,850 --> 01:34:14,640
attack was allowed to proceed.
Trump was advised of this

1615
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,700
development and he allegedly
ordered the mission aboard it

1616
01:34:17,850 --> 01:34:21,600
sounds a lot more feasible to me
than 150 people he didn't want

1617
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:21,990
to kill

1618
01:34:25,770 --> 01:34:27,900
John C. Dvorak: will that tells
you something if that kind of

1619
01:34:27,900 --> 01:34:30,810
information is leaking all over
the place to get to do something

1620
01:34:30,810 --> 01:34:32,820
about this problem? They have a
mole

1621
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:37,350
Adam Curry: Yeah. And that's if
if true, that's really really

1622
01:34:37,350 --> 01:34:38,580
problematic.

1623
01:34:38,670 --> 01:34:40,800
John C. Dvorak: That's a good
story if it's true or not. What

1624
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:41,130
I like

1625
01:34:41,130 --> 01:34:45,870
Adam Curry: the most is Sean
Hannity, who is a war monger

1626
01:34:45,870 --> 01:34:49,320
extraordinaire and what did Iran
do to Sean Hannity

1627
01:34:50,730 --> 01:34:52,320
Unknown: if they do they rape
him

1628
01:34:54,060 --> 01:34:56,640
John C. Dvorak: either No,
listen to this part of that dead

1629
01:34:56,820 --> 01:34:59,580
John McCain click you know bom
bom, bom bom

1630
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:03,360
Adam Curry: the gays, gay
stache. Listen to his math,

1631
01:35:03,420 --> 01:35:06,180
Unknown: we'll have A squared B
squared equals C squared,

1632
01:35:06,330 --> 01:35:09,540
radical Islamic Maryrose
President married to weapons of

1633
01:35:09,540 --> 01:35:14,430
mass destruction nukes equals a
potential holocaust. That's it.

1634
01:35:14,430 --> 01:35:17,820
We can't let that happen. That's
the That's it. It's mathematical

1635
01:35:17,940 --> 01:35:19,020
mathematical job

1636
01:35:19,050 --> 01:35:19,860
is just math.

1637
01:35:20,730 --> 01:35:22,080
John C. Dvorak: It's
mathematical.

1638
01:35:22,890 --> 01:35:27,150
Adam Curry: What a dick. It's
math people. You gotta shoot

1639
01:35:27,150 --> 01:35:28,920
some rockets at Iran it's math.

1640
01:35:29,610 --> 01:35:33,120
John C. Dvorak: But here's the
the overriding the kind of the

1641
01:35:34,710 --> 01:35:38,190
Trump versus Iran did background
you're on PBS minute clips. It

1642
01:35:38,220 --> 01:35:39,690
gives us what we need to know

1643
01:35:39,780 --> 01:35:42,420
Unknown: in Tehran today. The
Revolutionary Guard Corps showed

1644
01:35:42,420 --> 01:35:45,840
off their catch the charred
remains of the US drone they

1645
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:49,410
shot down. But as the invited
camera crews to document the

1646
01:35:49,410 --> 01:35:53,430
destruction, general Amir Ali
hajizadeh said yesterday could

1647
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:54,060
have been deadly

1648
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,450
that I wanted as a kid at the
same moment

1649
01:35:57,450 --> 01:35:59,220
John C. Dvorak: when this
aircraft was being tracked.

1650
01:35:59,250 --> 01:36:02,490
Another spy aircraft called P
eight was flying close to this

1651
01:36:02,490 --> 01:36:06,600
drone. That aircraft is manned
and has around 35 crew members,

1652
01:36:06,660 --> 01:36:07,920
we could have targeted that

1653
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,980
Unknown: plane up to this 6000
miles away in an interview with

1654
01:36:10,980 --> 01:36:14,460
NBC News. President Trump
described discussing options

1655
01:36:14,460 --> 01:36:17,850
with military commanders, and
also said yesterday could have

1656
01:36:17,850 --> 01:36:18,720
been deadlier.

1657
01:36:18,750 --> 01:36:20,910
They came and they said Sir,
we're ready to go. We'd like a

1658
01:36:20,910 --> 01:36:23,820
decision. I said, I want to know
something before you go, how

1659
01:36:23,820 --> 01:36:28,980
many people will be killed? And
this case Iranians came back

1660
01:36:28,980 --> 01:36:32,040
said sir, approximately 150.

1661
01:36:32,190 --> 01:36:34,860
Adam Curry: You know, hold on,
just in light of what we just

1662
01:36:34,860 --> 01:36:38,400
heard him say or what we what we
may be true about leaked

1663
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,850
information. It's interesting
that he says in this case,

1664
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:46,710
Iranians would you expect anyone
else to get killed?

1665
01:36:49,290 --> 01:36:50,430
John C. Dvorak: Russia Russians,

1666
01:36:50,700 --> 01:36:54,840
Adam Curry: possibly all surface
could be anybody. I'm just

1667
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,640
saying that. That's interesting
news.

1668
01:36:56,820 --> 01:36:59,190
Unknown: President Trump's
described discussing options

1669
01:36:59,190 --> 01:37:02,580
with military commanders, and
also said yesterday could have

1670
01:37:02,580 --> 01:37:03,420
been deadlier.

1671
01:37:03,450 --> 01:37:05,610
They came in they said Sir,
we're ready to go. We'd like a

1672
01:37:05,610 --> 01:37:08,520
decision. I said, I want to know
something before you go. How

1673
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:13,680
many people will be killed? In
this case, Iranians came back

1674
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:19,140
said sir, approximately 150. And
I thought about it for a second.

1675
01:37:19,140 --> 01:37:24,810
I said you know what, they shut
down an unmanned drone plane,

1676
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:29,040
whatever you want to call it.
And here we are sitting with 150

1677
01:37:29,370 --> 01:37:33,090
dead people. That would have
taken place probably within a

1678
01:37:33,090 --> 01:37:36,900
half an hour after I said go
ahead. And I didn't like it. I

1679
01:37:36,900 --> 01:37:39,960
didn't think it was. I didn't
think it was proportionate. I'll

1680
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:40,380
throw

1681
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:44,130
Ron says use this interceptor
missile to shoot down the drone.

1682
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:48,030
The US military says it's
located here along the ROMs

1683
01:37:48,030 --> 01:37:51,930
coast. Former senior military
officials tell PBS newshour the

1684
01:37:51,930 --> 01:37:54,690
President was likely given
options to attack that missile

1685
01:37:54,690 --> 01:37:59,130
site. Its command and control
and its radar systems. And those

1686
01:37:59,130 --> 01:38:02,100
former senior military and
diplomatic officials say the

1687
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:04,770
military strike options
presented to the President would

1688
01:38:04,770 --> 01:38:07,770
have included casualty estimates
from the very beginning. It's

1689
01:38:07,770 --> 01:38:10,560
not clear why the President
received that information so

1690
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,710
close to giving you an order to
attack. But those former

1691
01:38:13,710 --> 01:38:16,380
officials say it raises
questions about the decision

1692
01:38:16,380 --> 01:38:18,090
making process. Now of course,

1693
01:38:18,150 --> 01:38:20,790
Adam Curry: course what you
didn't kill people. What

1694
01:38:21,570 --> 01:38:23,430
John C. Dvorak: is given you a
little needle there. There was

1695
01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:29,100
another analysis done. This is
on PBS again. I was also on the

1696
01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:31,290
news, our shields on Trump and
Iran.

1697
01:38:32,310 --> 01:38:34,830
Unknown: So Mark, let's talk
about what we are leading with

1698
01:38:34,830 --> 01:38:38,220
tonight. And that is again, the
tension the tense situation

1699
01:38:38,220 --> 01:38:41,010
standoff, whatever you want to
call it, between the United

1700
01:38:41,010 --> 01:38:45,060
States and Iran, with the latest
news being President Trump had

1701
01:38:45,480 --> 01:38:49,950
authorized military strike, but
then are almost authorized. And

1702
01:38:49,950 --> 01:38:54,330
then the last minute, pulled it
back. What do we make of this?

1703
01:38:54,570 --> 01:38:54,930
Well,

1704
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,660
the President is keeping his
word that he made during the

1705
01:38:57,660 --> 01:39:00,540
campaign to be unpredictable.
And I think unpredictable. This

1706
01:39:00,630 --> 01:39:04,890
is what this qualifies. It's a
little it isn't you don't get

1707
01:39:04,890 --> 01:39:06,690
the sense that this has been
well,

1708
01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:10,260
Adam Curry: he could have said
the president kept his word. I

1709
01:39:10,260 --> 01:39:13,590
don't want to get into new wars.
But no, I'm gonna be

1710
01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:16,800
unpredictable. Was it was that a
was that a campaign promise

1711
01:39:16,830 --> 01:39:18,300
John C. Dvorak: work of sarcasm?

1712
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:21,090
Adam Curry: You think that was
certainly think that was sarcasm

1713
01:39:21,090 --> 01:39:21,180
is

1714
01:39:21,180 --> 01:39:23,430
John C. Dvorak: fantastic. I
think it's sarcasm, of course it

1715
01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:28,680
is. And is now he goes into his
analysis, which is just IO jaw

1716
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:29,070
dropper

1717
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:31,860
Unknown: pulled it back? What do
we make of this?

1718
01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:35,190
Well, the President is keeping
his word that he made during the

1719
01:39:35,190 --> 01:39:38,400
campaign to be unpredictable,
and I think unpredictable is

1720
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:42,390
what this qualifies. It's a
little it isn't you don't get

1721
01:39:42,390 --> 01:39:46,890
the sense that this has been
well thought out. And the idea

1722
01:39:46,890 --> 01:39:53,280
that and and how the country
gets on board. And as we, for

1723
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:57,480
example, and this is we are
unsettling. I'm relieved that

1724
01:39:57,480 --> 01:40:01,200
the President rather upset the
founder so late in the game,

1725
01:40:02,460 --> 01:40:03,390
that's where we are.

1726
01:40:03,540 --> 01:40:06,870
Adam Curry: Are you just trying
to get this guy fired? How much

1727
01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:12,390
time do you spend on this? You
could clean up the edits a

1728
01:40:12,390 --> 01:40:21,450
little bit. It's almost there.
It's eight and solid eight. You

1729
01:40:21,450 --> 01:40:22,200
really don't want

1730
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:22,950
John C. Dvorak: to be listening.
Alice. I

1731
01:40:22,980 --> 01:40:24,930
Unknown: really don't like that
guy. Do you?

1732
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,280
John C. Dvorak: Think he's
great? I?

1733
01:40:29,550 --> 01:40:34,170
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, it's
fishy. This whole 150 people

1734
01:40:34,170 --> 01:40:36,330
thing is fishy. I um, yeah,

1735
01:40:36,330 --> 01:40:39,240
John C. Dvorak: I'm now now that
I hear about the potential of a

1736
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:43,170
mole. And somebody you know it
almost in fact, if you're going

1737
01:40:43,170 --> 01:40:47,280
to take it, you want to take it
to one level more. The shoot

1738
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:53,130
down was part of a huge scheme
to trap the United States to

1739
01:40:53,130 --> 01:40:56,040
doing something where we're
gonna get ourselves into killed

1740
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,260
we're gonna look at the bad guys
because they probably have all

1741
01:40:58,260 --> 01:41:01,170
the data on the drone actually
being they shut the thing down

1742
01:41:01,170 --> 01:41:04,350
for legitimate reasons. And then
we go to to attack them and then

1743
01:41:04,350 --> 01:41:08,040
we get shot down in the process.
The whole thing looks very

1744
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:09,090
sketchy. Well, I'm

1745
01:41:09,090 --> 01:41:12,240
Adam Curry: just gonna give you
a horrible scenario. So we know

1746
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:17,010
that there are just incredible
war mongers in the United States

1747
01:41:17,010 --> 01:41:21,630
government in the White House.
Gay stash. Okay, so then Pompeo.

1748
01:41:21,660 --> 01:41:25,590
So these guys, they have their
people in, what if they said,

1749
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:29,160
Look, this Trump guy, he's not
going to do it. He doesn't want

1750
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:32,430
what are we going to do? I got
an idea. That idea will fly the

1751
01:41:32,430 --> 01:41:36,750
drone will get shot down. It's
not hard to do just fly it over

1752
01:41:36,750 --> 01:41:42,870
there. And then we'll leak some
of the info about the fighters

1753
01:41:42,990 --> 01:41:46,830
so that we can get some some of
our guys killed. Boom, you got a

1754
01:41:46,830 --> 01:41:51,870
cocktail. It's possible and it's
very disturbing.

1755
01:41:52,260 --> 01:41:56,460
John C. Dvorak: I like that one
the most. Because that's exactly

1756
01:41:56,460 --> 01:41:59,880
what these creeps would do.
Yeah. And they're in a position

1757
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:00,540
to do it.

1758
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,150
Adam Curry: So thank you
President Trump if that's what

1759
01:42:03,150 --> 01:42:07,530
happened, lie all you want but
tell us the truth at some point

1760
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:13,500
about these eight holes when you
when you smoke them out. Well,

1761
01:42:13,500 --> 01:42:14,220
both those guys

1762
01:42:14,220 --> 01:42:19,410
John C. Dvorak: gotta go. Yeah.
And I mean, and also the gold

1763
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:22,650
dipped Hannity's and all these
people that are kind of sided

1764
01:42:22,650 --> 01:42:26,100
with them, they really well.
Again, it says to do one more of

1765
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:29,460
these stupid, expensive wars.
That costs us trillions of

1766
01:42:29,460 --> 01:42:32,670
dollars that we can't afford.
You know, Ben Shapiro is a

1767
01:42:32,670 --> 01:42:36,180
netlist. Yes. Yeah.

1768
01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:39,240
Adam Curry: Was he calling it
was he calling for a tackle?

1769
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:43,440
He's a huge warm WHAT DO WE was
he actually on his on his

1770
01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:45,660
podcast saying this attack
attack attack?

1771
01:42:46,349 --> 01:42:48,119
John C. Dvorak: I don't I don't
listen to his podcast. I

1772
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,000
Adam Curry: neither do I. But
I'd like to know now. Well,

1773
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:51,180
let's

1774
01:42:51,179 --> 01:42:52,949
John C. Dvorak: find out
somebody. Oh, I'm sure do we

1775
01:42:52,949 --> 01:42:55,169
have people out there that love
the Ben Shapiro show?

1776
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,900
Adam Curry: And if you love the
Ben Shapiro show, do you listen

1777
01:42:57,900 --> 01:43:02,100
to him at 1.5 speed? And how
much coke do you have to do to

1778
01:43:02,100 --> 01:43:02,340
build?

1779
01:43:04,050 --> 01:43:06,840
John C. Dvorak: He talks at 1.5
speed. Exactly.

1780
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,080
Adam Curry: But then the
Washington Post reports that

1781
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,200
President Trump approved an
offensive cyber strike that

1782
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,770
disabled Iranian Iranian
computer systems used to control

1783
01:43:16,770 --> 01:43:20,220
rocket and missile launchers,
even as he backed away from the

1784
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:23,190
conventional military attack in
response to his downing

1785
01:43:23,190 --> 01:43:26,820
Thursday, an unmanned us
surveillance drone, according to

1786
01:43:26,820 --> 01:43:30,570
people familiar with the matter.
Is this

1787
01:43:30,570 --> 01:43:32,940
John C. Dvorak: true? No, I
don't know. It sounds that you

1788
01:43:32,940 --> 01:43:35,190
think you hear more about it
from the community.

1789
01:43:35,250 --> 01:43:37,980
Adam Curry: The White House
declined the decline, decline

1790
01:43:37,980 --> 01:43:40,920
declined to comment as did
officials and US Cyber Command

1791
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:44,520
Pentagon spokes whole Elissa
Smith said as a matter of policy

1792
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:47,130
and for operational security. We
did not discuss cyberspace

1793
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,160
operations, intelligence or
planning when she didn't want to

1794
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:56,760
say anything. Oh, who is this?
Thomas Bossert.

1795
01:43:57,210 --> 01:43:59,880
John C. Dvorak: And wouldn't the
Iranians be bitching about this?

1796
01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:03,060
If something like that happened?
We'd be hearing about it from

1797
01:44:03,060 --> 01:44:04,200
international news. Listen

1798
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,020
Adam Curry: to this. So we have
former senior White House

1799
01:44:07,050 --> 01:44:10,320
cybersecurity official in the
Trump administration. Thomas

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01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,860
Bossert. look him up, John.
Well, I read this Bossard Bo s s

1801
01:44:13,890 --> 01:44:18,570
e r t Why did he leave? He says
he was quoted in The Washington

1802
01:44:18,570 --> 01:44:22,770
Post. This operation imposes
costs on the growing Iranian

1803
01:44:22,770 --> 01:44:25,920
cyber threat but also serves to
defend the United States Navy

1804
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:29,160
and shipping operations in the
Strait of Hormuz. He's saying

1805
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:33,420
that as if he knows something,
he continues. Our US military

1806
01:44:33,420 --> 01:44:38,640
has long known that we could
sink every IRGC Iranian royal

1807
01:44:38,670 --> 01:44:44,970
what is it? I don't know. IRGC
vessel in the straits within 24

1808
01:44:44,970 --> 01:44:48,120
hours if necessary. And this is
the modern version of what the

1809
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:51,420
US Navy has to do to defend
itself at sea and keep

1810
01:44:51,450 --> 01:44:55,620
international shipping lanes
free from Iranian disruption.

1811
01:44:56,310 --> 01:45:00,270
This is a former guy so there's
no one no one from no one. No

1812
01:45:00,270 --> 01:45:03,270
official spoke on the record
about this. But yet, the

1813
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:07,230
headline, Trump approved cyber
strikes against Iran's missiles

1814
01:45:10,860 --> 01:45:12,540
so this more deep state shit.

1815
01:45:13,139 --> 01:45:16,379
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Bossard is
some Atlantic Council guy with

1816
01:45:16,379 --> 01:45:19,079
the George W. Bush
administration. Yeah. Attended

1817
01:45:19,079 --> 01:45:21,509
George Washington University.
Hi. Yeah,

1818
01:45:21,570 --> 01:45:22,590
Unknown: yeah, guy.

1819
01:45:23,190 --> 01:45:24,300
Adam Curry: Could you get fired?

1820
01:45:24,870 --> 01:45:27,750
John C. Dvorak: He's a Homeland
Security Adviser to US President

1821
01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:31,650
Trump was Yeah. And he's
currently ABC News Homeland

1822
01:45:31,650 --> 01:45:35,370
Security Analyst say no more
before. He's a fellow at the

1823
01:45:35,370 --> 01:45:38,340
Atlantic Council and then he's a
Deputy Homeland Security Adviser

1824
01:45:38,340 --> 01:45:41,340
to George W. Bush. In that
capacity he co authored the

1825
01:45:41,340 --> 01:45:44,700
National Strategy for Homeland
Security prior to that he had

1826
01:45:44,700 --> 01:45:50,220
positions in the federal FEMA
Office of Independent Counsel

1827
01:45:50,220 --> 01:45:52,980
and the House of Representatives
also appointed as director of

1828
01:45:52,980 --> 01:45:56,340
infrastructure protection under
Bush overseeing the security of

1829
01:45:56,340 --> 01:46:00,210
critical you of us
infrastructure oak spoke he's

1830
01:46:00,210 --> 01:46:02,850
got spirit and all he looks like
one two said he's wearing a

1831
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,130
white shirt instead of a light
blue Well, I'm

1832
01:46:05,130 --> 01:46:09,600
Adam Curry: going to talk to I'm
gonna contact the channels and

1833
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:13,800
see if see if our idea may be
right or not about the about

1834
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,950
this deep state. really sick and
really sickening to think but it

1835
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:21,180
fits perfectly. It just seems so
odd, but it is pretty

1836
01:46:21,179 --> 01:46:24,029
John C. Dvorak: cool. This guy
though this guy quit when Bolton

1837
01:46:24,029 --> 01:46:28,589
got in now. Issues bolt gun and
he left now I'm sure he resigned

1838
01:46:28,589 --> 01:46:32,579
a day after Bolton got in now.
I'm wondering whether this was a

1839
01:46:32,609 --> 01:46:37,499
guy who was a placeholder for
the deep state EQs in there and

1840
01:46:37,499 --> 01:46:40,229
then Bolton comes in. Okay, you
got in the hands of Baton

1841
01:46:40,229 --> 01:46:42,629
handoff. Possible.

1842
01:46:44,850 --> 01:46:48,570
Adam Curry: I just I just the
whole 150 Dead people thing is

1843
01:46:48,570 --> 01:46:52,740
what really just doesn't fit the
Trump by in it. It doesn't fit

1844
01:46:52,740 --> 01:46:59,460
the Trump mold? No. You know, it
just doesn't fit it. Unless it

1845
01:46:59,460 --> 01:47:04,530
was 150 of our guys. He says in
this case Iranians. Sure. So 150

1846
01:47:04,530 --> 01:47:08,580
Iranians maybe more us? I don't
know. But it just doesn't feel

1847
01:47:08,580 --> 01:47:10,050
right. And then you take all
this,

1848
01:47:10,350 --> 01:47:14,130
John C. Dvorak: it will start to
reveal itself. I hope so. On our

1849
01:47:14,130 --> 01:47:22,740
show. Yes. Meanwhile, yes. Get
some updates on some action

1850
01:47:22,740 --> 01:47:27,900
around the world. Okay. China's
back is back at it in Hong Kong.

1851
01:47:27,900 --> 01:47:30,570
They're still irked because this
situation hasn't resolved

1852
01:47:30,570 --> 01:47:32,820
itself. So get an update. There
were

1853
01:47:32,820 --> 01:47:35,880
Unknown: fresh protests today.
demanding the city leader

1854
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:39,840
scrapped a proposal allowing
extraditions to mainland China,

1855
01:47:40,110 --> 01:47:44,100
more than 1000 demonstrators
wearing black rallied outside

1856
01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:47,220
the police headquarters and
government buildings. Others

1857
01:47:47,220 --> 01:47:50,790
marched in the streets and put
up barricades, but there was no

1858
01:47:50,790 --> 01:47:51,600
violence.

1859
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:57,030
Adam Curry: I really liked the
power of numbers in this one. It

1860
01:47:57,030 --> 01:48:00,690
really shows you what what
people can do if they can

1861
01:48:00,690 --> 01:48:04,290
actually band together. Yeah.
Did you see that in the Hong

1862
01:48:04,290 --> 01:48:07,800
Kong some of that aerial footage
where an ambulance needed to get

1863
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,710
through and the people just
parted beautifully. Yeah and

1864
01:48:10,710 --> 01:48:14,610
that great. Like that is some
that's crowd discipline right

1865
01:48:14,610 --> 01:48:18,510
there. I don't I don't know if
that's possible in in the West

1866
01:48:18,510 --> 01:48:22,140
year. I don't think so. But it
shows you got a million people

1867
01:48:22,500 --> 01:48:25,830
and all of us oh man they don't
want any of that in in in like

1868
01:48:25,830 --> 01:48:29,670
Beijing. Imagine Beijing. Get a
couple million people hey, we're

1869
01:48:29,670 --> 01:48:31,440
kind of sick and tired of ug B

1870
01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:36,120
John C. Dvorak: 5 million. Yeah,
they'd have 5 million people and

1871
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:37,500
I down the place now

1872
01:48:37,530 --> 01:48:40,440
Adam Curry: that's something I'm
sure someone's working on. They

1873
01:48:40,440 --> 01:48:43,260
did pretty good with his Hong
Kong operation that nice signs

1874
01:48:43,260 --> 01:48:46,350
all professionally printed. You
know, people were were were all

1875
01:48:46,350 --> 01:48:50,040
prepared and rallied for this.
Yeah. If they could get that

1876
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:53,850
done in Beijing that that would
that would teach Xiao Jing ping

1877
01:48:53,850 --> 01:48:54,930
a little lesson. I think

1878
01:48:56,190 --> 01:48:58,320
John C. Dvorak: something would
happen. Maybe it was a dry run

1879
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,750
for that area. It might be a dry
run. You never know it's

1880
01:49:00,750 --> 01:49:03,150
possible. To Hell of a dry run.

1881
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:07,830
Adam Curry: People were people
that were were in on it. They

1882
01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:09,960
were grieves and like, I don't
want this happening.

1883
01:49:11,220 --> 01:49:16,440
John C. Dvorak: So there was
about they laid off 72 cops in

1884
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:19,350
Philadelphia who were watching
this happen by the way, this is

1885
01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:22,380
a big trend right now. They're
busting cocked. Putting cops on

1886
01:49:22,380 --> 01:49:25,650
leave if they post on Facebook,
this is an old what is an old

1887
01:49:25,650 --> 01:49:27,960
story cops busted for Facebook
posts.

1888
01:49:28,350 --> 01:49:32,400
Adam Curry: Oh, yes, I saw this.
Just before we went on our

1889
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,940
honeymoon. Do want me to play
the clip play that sorry.

1890
01:49:35,970 --> 01:49:37,830
Unknown: Hundreds of police
officers around the country are

1891
01:49:37,830 --> 01:49:40,440
taking heat tonight for public
posts that they made on

1892
01:49:40,440 --> 01:49:43,470
Facebook. Here's the problem. A
lot of people think the posts

1893
01:49:43,470 --> 01:49:47,430
were violent, racist, and
sexist. Police in Philadelphia

1894
01:49:47,460 --> 01:49:50,190
are among those under
investigation and Don Taylor's

1895
01:49:50,190 --> 01:49:56,790
their people at this rally
outside the Philadelphia Police

1896
01:49:56,790 --> 01:50:00,000
Headquarters weren't surprised
by what they read in the racist

1897
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,810
Social media rants we live here
in this city, that Solomon

1898
01:50:03,810 --> 01:50:06,720
Jones, one of the protest
organizers says the brazen

1899
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:09,060
public display took it to a
different level

1900
01:50:09,150 --> 01:50:14,700
as a turning point because they
felt the license to engage in

1901
01:50:14,700 --> 01:50:18,330
hate in a public way. And what
that says to me is that there is

1902
01:50:18,330 --> 01:50:20,130
a culture that allows that to
happen.

1903
01:50:20,190 --> 01:50:23,550
The Facebook posts in question
contain discriminatory opinions.

1904
01:50:23,790 --> 01:50:26,490
If our country was all
Caucasian, the homicide rate

1905
01:50:26,490 --> 01:50:30,960
would drop 70%. Perhaps we
should be very suspicious of all

1906
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:35,430
Muslims in this country, said
another or encouraged violence.

1907
01:50:35,670 --> 01:50:39,390
It's a good day for a chokehold.
They were collected by the

1908
01:50:39,390 --> 01:50:43,110
Plainview project, a group of
lawyers and activists, who over

1909
01:50:43,110 --> 01:50:47,490
two years painstakingly reviewed
the Facebook pages of 3500

1910
01:50:47,490 --> 01:50:51,540
current and former police
officers in a departments Dallas

1911
01:50:51,540 --> 01:50:55,530
and Denison, Texas, Lake County,
Florida, St. Louis, Twin Falls,

1912
01:50:55,530 --> 01:50:59,310
Idaho, Phoenix, York,
Pennsylvania and Philadelphia,

1913
01:50:59,610 --> 01:51:03,510
where over 300 officers were
flagged for allegedly expressing

1914
01:51:03,510 --> 01:51:06,270
racist, violent or misogynistic
views.

1915
01:51:06,330 --> 01:51:10,410
I want the 328 officers who are
on active duty to be taken off

1916
01:51:10,410 --> 01:51:13,530
the street right now because it
says to me that your mindset is

1917
01:51:13,530 --> 01:51:16,200
one that you don't feel that my
life is valuable

1918
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,900
all eight police departments
have said have issued statements

1919
01:51:21,900 --> 01:51:25,080
saying they found those posts
objectionable four of them have

1920
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:28,170
put some of their officers on
temporary desk duty pending

1921
01:51:28,170 --> 01:51:30,990
investigations now different
departments have different

1922
01:51:30,990 --> 01:51:34,380
policies about this kind of
behavior. But David only St.

1923
01:51:34,380 --> 01:51:37,020
Louis has referred the matter to
a prosecutor

1924
01:51:37,590 --> 01:51:40,140
Adam Curry: you know what's too
bad about this in this story is

1925
01:51:40,140 --> 01:51:43,740
that there's no way since it's
all been deleted and and and

1926
01:51:43,740 --> 01:51:46,290
closed down. There's no way to
really read any of these

1927
01:51:46,290 --> 01:51:50,010
comments in context. Wrong. It's
still up

1928
01:51:51,330 --> 01:51:53,310
John C. Dvorak: there copy the
original comments are not still

1929
01:51:53,310 --> 01:51:57,900
up but plain view the website
that tracks it literally finds

1930
01:51:57,900 --> 01:52:02,880
cops and tracks them and then
repost their comments with their

1931
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,430
with the follow ups and all the
rest of it. Okay, still there.

1932
01:52:05,430 --> 01:52:06,630
It's called the database Have

1933
01:52:06,630 --> 01:52:07,590
Adam Curry: you taken a look at
it?

1934
01:52:07,620 --> 01:52:08,880
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, of course
I did.

1935
01:52:08,940 --> 01:52:11,460
Adam Curry: Let's talk about it.
Tell me it's lame.

1936
01:52:13,410 --> 01:52:16,680
John C. Dvorak: bunch of cops.
This is classic guys getting the

1937
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:20,250
cops you know they're saying
something like you know they

1938
01:52:20,250 --> 01:52:24,780
repost a bust of some drug
operation and then one cop jumps

1939
01:52:24,780 --> 01:52:30,990
this is good day for chokehold
and just juvenile comments,

1940
01:52:31,170 --> 01:52:35,880
reposting of meme after meme
after every meme that comes out.

1941
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:39,300
We can have Sharia law in this
country and then to have some

1942
01:52:39,300 --> 01:52:41,880
meme of some you know, any
number.

1943
01:52:42,090 --> 01:52:45,870
Adam Curry: There was a lot of
sarcasm. It's a lot of sarcasm,

1944
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:50,310
John C. Dvorak: I'd say probably
mostly sarcasm, mean spirited

1945
01:52:50,310 --> 01:52:55,140
comments that are just part of
the job, it seems to me, but

1946
01:52:55,140 --> 01:52:58,740
it's not nothing worse than what
the public is posting. I think

1947
01:52:58,740 --> 01:53:01,350
this is a witch hunt. I think
it's bullshit.

1948
01:53:01,410 --> 01:53:06,630
Adam Curry: Well, who is? This
is another big part of of

1949
01:53:06,630 --> 01:53:15,180
democratic strategy is to
position all police as the enemy

1950
01:53:15,180 --> 01:53:16,050
of the blacks.

1951
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,380
John C. Dvorak: Yes. That says
this is part and parcel of that.

1952
01:53:19,380 --> 01:53:22,560
I don't have the background on
this plain view operation, but

1953
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:26,730
there's a lot of Democrats and
they are I think a lot of these

1954
01:53:26,730 --> 01:53:30,930
cops are being railroaded and
worse. Of course, this again,

1955
01:53:30,930 --> 01:53:33,450
you know what, you have to have
some circumspection, but

1956
01:53:33,450 --> 01:53:37,470
apparently these cops don't have
it worse as they track certain

1957
01:53:37,470 --> 01:53:40,710
specific cops. So in the
database, you can actually look

1958
01:53:40,710 --> 01:53:44,100
up a cop and get all of his
posts from everywhere, which I

1959
01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:47,790
think is a violation of privacy
or something. And his posts from

1960
01:53:48,060 --> 01:53:51,570
you know, closed forums and
Facebook and things I can't even

1961
01:53:51,570 --> 01:53:55,110
don't have access to because I
don't care. And it's a lot of it

1962
01:53:55,110 --> 01:53:58,170
is extremely, there are yes,
there's a few bad apples in

1963
01:53:58,170 --> 01:54:01,560
there. Very few. The rest of
them are being railroaded as far

1964
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:06,390
as I'm concerned for just being
a normal person on Twitter.

1965
01:54:06,810 --> 01:54:12,630
reposting mostly reposting lame
memes and, and a lot of there is

1966
01:54:12,630 --> 01:54:16,230
a lot of anti Muslim sentiment
amongst these cops but it has to

1967
01:54:16,230 --> 01:54:20,790
do with Sharia law. It's
bullshit this story is not well

1968
01:54:20,790 --> 01:54:23,400
presented, and this is the way
it's going and then mainstream

1969
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:26,490
media is all in on it. But you
can go look out all these things

1970
01:54:26,490 --> 01:54:29,610
are all there and you can you
after a while you go what's the

1971
01:54:29,610 --> 01:54:33,900
big deal? Yeah, see worse stuff
on if you go to rob Reiner's

1972
01:54:33,900 --> 01:54:35,130
feed you see worse more

1973
01:54:35,130 --> 01:54:40,710
Adam Curry: hate? Well, yeah,
they're in this day and age. You

1974
01:54:40,710 --> 01:54:46,530
have to be cognizant, if you are
in a a position of power and and

1975
01:54:46,530 --> 01:54:49,080
carrying a gun is a huge
position of power. One of the

1976
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:54,030
ultimate ones and people are
very sensitive. And you know,

1977
01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:56,640
everyone gets taken down.
There's deep platforming

1978
01:54:56,640 --> 01:55:00,000
everywhere canceled culture is
rampant. So via you got you

1979
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,820
Gotta be careful. Yeah, even
with your humor and your

1980
01:55:02,820 --> 01:55:06,990
sarcasm, and I'm sure that there
were some real dickheads in

1981
01:55:06,990 --> 01:55:10,650
there, no doubt about it. And
those have to be weeded out. But

1982
01:55:10,650 --> 01:55:15,060
I can I can see, knowing a lot
of cops that you know, there's

1983
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:16,860
what we call it gallows humor.

1984
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,760
John C. Dvorak: Yes, that's
exactly what do we see a lot of

1985
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:23,010
in this in these posts and
gallows humor,

1986
01:55:23,070 --> 01:55:27,240
Adam Curry: and I think we'll
see some of that in Austin. In

1987
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:31,560
fact, I've already received some
emails with this type of gallows

1988
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:37,170
humor from APD. And
unfortunately, I wasn't I really

1989
01:55:37,170 --> 01:55:41,760
am. The only bummer about our
honeymoon is they had the big

1990
01:55:41,970 --> 01:55:51,360
Austin City Council meeting on
Thursday, where they removed the

1991
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:55,560
ordinances, the city ordinances
forbidding camping and

1992
01:55:55,560 --> 01:56:00,300
panhandling in the city of
Austin. And I have a report and

1993
01:56:00,300 --> 01:56:03,180
I guarantee you we're gonna have
a lot of gallows humor from

1994
01:56:03,180 --> 01:56:05,880
cops, and poop is on its way

1995
01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:09,240
Unknown: well other major cities
that allow camping within city

1996
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:14,700
limits and camping is also legal
except in parks. And San

1997
01:56:14,700 --> 01:56:17,430
Francisco, an appeals court
ruled last year that cities

1998
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:21,480
could not criminalize people for
sleeping or camping in public

1999
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:25,440
areas. If shelter isn't
available, and in Portland

2000
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:29,460
camping is only banned on public
property and public rights of

2001
01:56:29,460 --> 01:56:29,880
way.

2002
01:56:29,940 --> 01:56:32,460
Now we'll have to establish that
the underlying

2003
01:56:32,490 --> 01:56:35,610
Adam Curry: this is this is a
cop. This is top cop in Austin

2004
01:56:35,610 --> 01:56:36,090
who's talking

2005
01:56:36,540 --> 01:56:39,960
Unknown: on public property and
public rights of way. Now we'll

2006
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:43,110
have to establish that the
underlying conduct posed a

2007
01:56:43,110 --> 01:56:47,040
hazard or a danger to someone
before we can take any action

2008
01:56:47,250 --> 01:56:51,060
as kickstands Ujin show found
out that last part about camping

2009
01:56:51,060 --> 01:56:52,860
still has many people worried

2010
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:56,250
Police Chief Brian Manley told
the City Council under these new

2011
01:56:56,250 --> 01:57:00,150
changes if you set up a tent say
here on Congress Avenue police

2012
01:57:00,150 --> 01:57:04,140
cannot make you move as long as
you're not blocking the public

2013
01:57:04,140 --> 01:57:08,100
right of way on entrance to a
business or as long as you're

2014
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:11,340
not posing safety risks to
yourself or others.

2015
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:14,190
This is about the next student
who will be groped, followed,

2016
01:57:14,220 --> 01:57:17,160
assaulted or possibly murdered.
And these are students from UT

2017
01:57:17,190 --> 01:57:18,300
the west campus area

2018
01:57:18,330 --> 01:57:21,360
we were chased. It's not
pleasant to be

2019
01:57:21,390 --> 01:57:24,420
so frightened. Some people worry
about safety and what will

2020
01:57:24,420 --> 01:57:27,270
happen to downtown streets since
people can now set up tents

2021
01:57:27,270 --> 01:57:30,300
without getting cited. But the
mayor says the city manager has

2022
01:57:30,300 --> 01:57:32,820
been directed to come up with
guidelines later this summer for

2023
01:57:32,820 --> 01:57:36,960
safe places to camp and other
solutions for homelessness. He

2024
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:40,140
doesn't think attensity will be
an issue. In the meantime,

2025
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,810
I just don't think we're going
to see that kind of thing

2026
01:57:42,810 --> 01:57:46,020
happened over an eight week
period of time. If it does, then

2027
01:57:46,020 --> 01:57:48,450
there's going to be a lot that
we're going to be able to learn

2028
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:49,680
and apply.

2029
01:57:49,860 --> 01:57:52,710
Adam Curry: Yep, big middle
finger to you, Mayor Steven

2030
01:57:52,710 --> 01:57:57,150
Adler Can you believe the gall
of that guy? Oh, I don't think

2031
01:57:57,150 --> 01:57:57,660
we'll see it

2032
01:57:59,850 --> 01:58:01,800
John C. Dvorak: we'll get to
learn to learn if

2033
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:07,950
Adam Curry: something happens.
Wow, that is just unbelievably

2034
01:58:08,310 --> 01:58:14,250
ignorant of what is happening in
every Democrat run city in

2035
01:58:14,250 --> 01:58:19,500
America it's

2036
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:23,160
John C. Dvorak: just boggles my
mind, but this is kept but you

2037
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:27,420
know, then again, you go up to
Seattle and you and the public

2038
01:58:27,420 --> 01:58:31,200
seems to be they've seemed to
put up with it. They don't vote

2039
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:33,870
these people out or they don't
y'all know I read well, I'd

2040
01:58:33,870 --> 01:58:35,460
rather have him than a
Republican

2041
01:58:37,530 --> 01:58:39,840
Adam Curry: having mean and
don't be mean

2042
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:42,060
John C. Dvorak: to the homeless.
I mean, no, no, you got to but

2043
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:44,970
we can find it. We can find ways
around this. We can make things

2044
01:58:44,970 --> 01:58:45,570
work.

2045
01:58:45,719 --> 01:58:48,419
Adam Curry: As you know, the
note that I read a few shows

2046
01:58:48,419 --> 01:58:53,819
ago. This isn't it's not just
for camping is for all class. I

2047
01:58:53,819 --> 01:58:57,599
think B and C or maybe C and D
misdemeanor. I'm not sure

2048
01:58:57,599 --> 01:59:00,749
exactly which ones I'd have to
look at the note. So same goes

2049
01:59:00,749 --> 01:59:04,079
for shoplifting. You know all
all of this stuff. No,

2050
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,170
John C. Dvorak: don't bother
prosecuting any of these things.

2051
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:11,310
Adam Curry: So what was
interesting as so petty crime,

2052
01:59:11,790 --> 01:59:13,950
John C. Dvorak: low level petty
crime, including breaking the

2053
01:59:13,950 --> 01:59:17,880
windows of your car to grab
something in the front seat, or

2054
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:21,090
stealing from a store where
you're hungry. Stealing from a

2055
01:59:21,090 --> 01:59:26,400
store shoplifting knocking
someone over just got punched in

2056
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:30,180
someone walking down the street.
Minor assault all these things

2057
01:59:30,180 --> 01:59:35,610
are legal in cities like San
Francisco, Seattle is going

2058
01:59:35,610 --> 01:59:39,090
there. Portland's up there I
think already according to some

2059
01:59:39,090 --> 01:59:43,440
people and I complain Yeah, it's
gonna happen. It's Philadelphia

2060
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:47,430
is going on if you're taking the
cops there. It's just a joke.

2061
01:59:47,430 --> 01:59:49,620
And I don't understand why
people are putting up with it to

2062
01:59:49,620 --> 01:59:51,960
the extent that they are it's a
lot of these millennials who do

2063
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:55,950
our nonconfrontational there are
largely responsible for this

2064
01:59:55,950 --> 01:59:59,340
problem. They had bitch to each
other, and they bitch around the

2065
01:59:59,340 --> 02:00:03,660
dinner table. But they will not
confront anyone. This is by us a

2066
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:10,800
phenomenon I picked up on. I'm
ordering some pizza. So I say

2067
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:13,230
I'm going to call in a pizza. So
why didn't you just order it

2068
02:00:13,230 --> 02:00:17,700
online? I said, Why would I do
that? I don't know that what's

2069
02:00:17,700 --> 02:00:20,280
going on with their back end?
I'm gonna call them in order the

2070
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:24,420
pizza. Oh, okay. How do you
know? They're like baffled by

2071
02:00:24,420 --> 02:00:28,890
this because they never call to
order a pizza. They always do it

2072
02:00:28,890 --> 02:00:35,940
online. They won't talk to
people. It's too much. Really?

2073
02:00:36,630 --> 02:00:37,080
Yeah.

2074
02:00:38,310 --> 02:00:40,560
Adam Curry: Just going back for
a second, and it just fits into

2075
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:46,020
the millennial vibe. So the city
of Austin has a city council

2076
02:00:46,020 --> 02:00:51,840
website. And I wanted to review
the PDFs of the documents, while

2077
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:57,600
we were on the plane, flying
over, flying back. And I could

2078
02:00:57,600 --> 02:01:02,400
not access any of these PDFs. I
kept getting corrupt. It's, you

2079
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:10,170
know, and so I tweet, Mayor
Adler. And I say, Hey, your site

2080
02:01:10,170 --> 02:01:12,990
is broken. Not a single one of
these PDFs is downloadable.

2081
02:01:12,990 --> 02:01:16,920
Please fix. Well, no agenda
nation jumps in. And they're

2082
02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:20,430
like, holy crap. This is a cold
fusion website. That shit was

2083
02:01:20,430 --> 02:01:24,690
outdated in 2011. What's going
on Austin, and they just pile on

2084
02:01:25,020 --> 02:01:29,490
to by the time we land. It was
fixed. I like that part. So

2085
02:01:29,490 --> 02:01:32,910
we're on the radar somewhere.
Someone heard figured it out. Or

2086
02:01:32,970 --> 02:01:37,950
Adler I know who fix that. And I
if there's anything really good,

2087
02:01:37,950 --> 02:01:40,680
I'll have an analysis for the
next show. But here's one of the

2088
02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:45,210
main terms. The main reasons why
these ordinances have been

2089
02:01:45,210 --> 02:01:49,770
removed. It is because of the
quote, quality of life

2090
02:01:49,770 --> 02:01:55,110
challenges of the unhoused. Is
that some new Speaker What?

2091
02:01:57,630 --> 02:01:59,190
John C. Dvorak: The unhoused
Yes, the

2092
02:01:59,190 --> 02:02:04,470
Adam Curry: quality of life
challenges of the unhoused Hmm.

2093
02:02:04,500 --> 02:02:08,220
So that's a good one, the way
they view it is homeless and by

2094
02:02:08,220 --> 02:02:11,130
the way, people who Panhandle
aren't all homeless, but okay.

2095
02:02:11,220 --> 02:02:14,190
Don't just presume you're kind
of being a bigot. If you see

2096
02:02:14,190 --> 02:02:17,880
someone pan well, you must be
homeless. That guy's walking

2097
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:20,580
around crazy must be homeless.
Maybe he's just crazy. Maybe

2098
02:02:20,580 --> 02:02:23,160
he's on drugs. Maybe there's
something else maybe he's a

2099
02:02:24,150 --> 02:02:30,840
grief ridden? I don't know. No,
no, he's unhoused. And therefore

2100
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:34,890
its quality of life challenges
that we just can't comprehend.

2101
02:02:34,890 --> 02:02:41,340
So we need to have compassion
and that's exactly it. The

2102
02:02:41,340 --> 02:02:45,120
compassion the compassion is was
screws it all up. And that's the

2103
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:52,980
millennial vibe. Oh, kind of
compassion. Yeah, sick angry.

2104
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,320
John C. Dvorak: It's sickening,
because you're not gonna get any

2105
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:57,840
better because these millennials
still won't call in a pizza.

2106
02:02:57,840 --> 02:02:58,140
Yeah,

2107
02:02:58,170 --> 02:03:00,570
Adam Curry: well, I'm a
homeowner now. I'm a taxpayer in

2108
02:03:00,570 --> 02:03:04,620
Austin. There's a new sheriff in
town as a new sheriff in town. I

2109
02:03:04,620 --> 02:03:08,490
got Mimi DeVore AKQA souffle and
me in the air. Let me know what

2110
02:03:08,490 --> 02:03:11,640
I'm supposed to do. And I got
some points to make it the next

2111
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:14,670
city council meeting. Tina is
going to be so embarrassed.

2112
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:19,170
John C. Dvorak: It takes it just
takes up getting used to. Let's

2113
02:03:19,170 --> 02:03:22,200
go to update another thing we
got going on. This is not being

2114
02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:26,340
covered much. We got a little
action between Georgia and

2115
02:03:26,340 --> 02:03:28,470
Russia again. Oh my goodness.

2116
02:03:28,500 --> 02:03:31,620
Unknown: Violent anti Russian
clashes though did break out

2117
02:03:31,620 --> 02:03:35,040
overnight in the former Soviet
republic of Georgia, and at

2118
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:40,350
least 240 people were hurt. Some
were left bleeding. After police

2119
02:03:40,350 --> 02:03:44,100
fired rubber bullets and tear
gas at demonstrators who were

2120
02:03:44,100 --> 02:03:47,280
trying to storm the parliament
building in Tbilisi, the

2121
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:51,600
capital, anti Russian feeling
runs deep in Georgia, after

2122
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:56,610
Moscow helped to Georgia and
provinces breakaway in 2008.

2123
02:03:57,990 --> 02:03:59,430
Adam Curry: What's this all
about? Now?

2124
02:03:59,610 --> 02:04:02,460
John C. Dvorak: I have no idea
but something's up in his being

2125
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:05,400
is not being played up by
anybody. I mean, PBS had it but

2126
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:09,420
that was about it sums up. I
think this is us again.

2127
02:04:10,349 --> 02:04:12,209
Adam Curry: Well, there must be
some pipeline action that we're

2128
02:04:12,209 --> 02:04:14,669
not agreeing to. Because that's
what that's what it always is.

2129
02:04:14,669 --> 02:04:16,889
That region is all about the
pipelines all about the

2130
02:04:16,889 --> 02:04:19,289
pipelines I shoot. If I had
known this, I would have looked

2131
02:04:19,289 --> 02:04:21,959
into it. But I'm making a note
now is the right this done.

2132
02:04:22,259 --> 02:04:26,369
Georgia pipelines show who's
running the show there now. Not

2133
02:04:26,369 --> 02:04:27,599
that guy eats his tie.

2134
02:04:28,080 --> 02:04:31,140
John C. Dvorak: I have no idea
kicked him out for so long, and

2135
02:04:31,140 --> 02:04:36,060
then this crops up. Okay, here's
another let's go with this one.

2136
02:04:36,060 --> 02:04:39,930
Climate change protests in
Germany. This is the millennials

2137
02:04:39,930 --> 02:04:41,040
back to the millennials.

2138
02:04:41,220 --> 02:04:43,890
Unknown: Protesters from across
Europe gathered in Western

2139
02:04:43,890 --> 02:04:48,060
Germany today to call for action
on climate change. organizers

2140
02:04:48,060 --> 02:04:52,590
estimate 20,000 people fill the
streets. The protest came a day

2141
02:04:52,590 --> 02:04:57,060
after the European Union failed
to agree on a plan to make the

2142
02:04:57,090 --> 02:05:01,050
EU carbon neutral by 2050.
Subtitle chotto

2143
02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:04,440
simply ashamed and terrible what
happens. Germany among other

2144
02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:07,470
industrial nations is one of the
countries mainly responsible for

2145
02:05:07,470 --> 02:05:09,750
climate change. And we do not
feel the effects yet in

2146
02:05:09,750 --> 02:05:12,870
comparison to countries in the
Global South. And it is simply

2147
02:05:12,870 --> 02:05:15,750
essential to take to the streets
against it and to protest.

2148
02:05:16,050 --> 02:05:19,410
Today's rally took place near
one of Germany's largest coal

2149
02:05:19,410 --> 02:05:22,710
mines. Ah,

2150
02:05:22,740 --> 02:05:24,630
John C. Dvorak: so this
millennial comes out and says

2151
02:05:24,630 --> 02:05:26,700
that we're not feeling the
effects because there's nothing

2152
02:05:26,700 --> 02:05:31,320
going on. That's okay. Except,
but they are in the Global South

2153
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:36,180
was talking about Africa,
Australia, what the Global South

2154
02:05:36,780 --> 02:05:41,490
America is feeling this the the
global warming prize it does the

2155
02:05:41,490 --> 02:05:43,560
tides going up there. And then I
go on up here.

2156
02:05:43,590 --> 02:05:45,300
Adam Curry: Well, you know,
there was there was that lone

2157
02:05:45,300 --> 02:05:47,760
polar bear walking around
somewhere Did you see that was

2158
02:05:47,910 --> 02:05:55,800
like everyone's like, the hungry
polar bear. It's like they just

2159
02:05:55,800 --> 02:06:00,000
go it's just a rotation. It's
just rotation. Ireland is set to

2160
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:04,950
ban private cars within within
15 years. And just No, yeah, no

2161
02:06:04,950 --> 02:06:10,230
more cars to work. But here's
the one that Ireland there's

2162
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:13,500
there was an interesting
counter, what's the it's now a

2163
02:06:13,500 --> 02:06:16,440
discussion, you probably know
something about this, because

2164
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:19,770
you've tested electronic
vehicles quite extensively,

2165
02:06:19,770 --> 02:06:23,580
you've driven quite a number of
them. So the Brussels Times

2166
02:06:23,580 --> 02:06:26,580
reports, whatever the Brussels
times is, sounds like a website

2167
02:06:27,330 --> 02:06:31,020
that a new German study exposed
how electric vehicles will

2168
02:06:31,020 --> 02:06:34,350
hardly decrease co2 emissions in
Europe over the coming years as

2169
02:06:34,350 --> 02:06:36,810
the introduction of electric
vehicles will not lead to

2170
02:06:36,810 --> 02:06:40,170
reduction co2 emissions for
highway traffic. And what they

2171
02:06:40,170 --> 02:06:45,480
do. And this is why I'm asking
you how, how correct this is, is

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they take a whole bunch of other
things into account that make in

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this example, a Tesla runs, I'll
just read this one paragraph, a

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battery pack for Tesla Model
three pollutes the climate with

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11 to 15 tonnes of co2, each
battery pack has a lifespan of

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approximately 10 years and total
mileage of 94,000 miles, that

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would mean 73 to 98 grams of co2
per kilometer 116 256 grams of

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co2 per mile, add this to the
co2 emissions of the electricity

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from power plants that power
such vehicles, and the actual

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Tesla emissions could be between
156 and 180 grams of co2 per

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kilometer, which apparently is
worse than a DS, a modern diesel

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engine. Now, I don't know if
this is a fair comparison.

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John C. Dvorak: But I think it's
true. I think that people have

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known for a long time that these
battery cars have because of the

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nature of power generation and
then and then you you've

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generate power in a power plant,
and then you send the power over

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transmission lines where it
loses like a lot of energy just

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in the transmission. And by the
time it gets to the car, the

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amount of co2 produced by the
power plant is compared to how

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many kilowatts you get into the
batteries is generally pretty

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high. Now, if if nuclear power
was at the back end of all of

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this different story, dif
totally different story. And

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also the manufacturing of the
batteries that that that case is

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going to chew up a lot of energy
in the in the processing of

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lithium, but that's just taken
that out of the equation. If you

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went all Nuke, the story would
be totally different. But

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they're not going to go that way
with their arguments because

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Chernobyl you know, it's just,
it's the real mystery of this

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whole thing.

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Adam Curry: To know, it's not a
mystery no one wants these

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people don't want it solves.
Because then they're out of

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business. The solution is clear.

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John C. Dvorak: There's also the
element that maybe they're just

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trying to take down Western
civilization.

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Adam Curry: Well, here's the
good news. I'm going to be gone

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02:08:52,470 --> 02:09:00,240
in 35 years. Now, I'm going to
do 40 Screw y'all. I want to be

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02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:04,440
old and cranky. So I can just
watch his demise from my rocking

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02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:07,950
chair. You guys have to live a
lot longer this bull crap Good

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luck with it. Not being cynical.
That's it's

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John C. Dvorak: happening
anyway, that's just a nonsense

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02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:17,520
exercise. And the millennials
are again, the world's biggest

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02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:18,690
suckers. Can I

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02:09:18,690 --> 02:09:21,240
Adam Curry: just say hey,
trolls, I'm gonna go be older

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02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:27,930
than 75 Okay, please give me a
break. They're so mean. I'm so

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happy. Yes.

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John C. Dvorak: No, get we had
climate change. Now. Let's go.

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02:09:32,370 --> 02:09:34,650
You want to go to Bernie Bernie
still I think in Plus,

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Adam Curry: I'll tell you what,
do you want to take a break? And

2219
02:09:36,060 --> 02:09:39,120
then and then 2020 update? Yeah,
let's do that.

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02:09:39,630 --> 02:09:42,450
Unknown: I'm gonna show my mood
by donating to no agenda.

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Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be

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fun.

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John C. Dvorak: Starting off
with thinking a few people here

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02:09:55,770 --> 02:09:58,920
for less than 49 hours with
Donald Barofsky, the icon of

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02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:04,140
Eastern Washington or bottles
12345 He didn't send a note in

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02:10:04,140 --> 02:10:08,250
on any official paper. Don't
just LG goes no carbon for him.

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We appreciate it. Thank

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Adam Curry: you sir darlin,

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02:10:09,719 --> 02:10:13,139
John C. Dvorak: Clara Thornhill.
Well $110.18 This

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Adam Curry: numbers Richard oh
that's that's a shapeshifting do

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02:10:17,129 --> 02:10:18,719
donation I guess within 18

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John C. Dvorak: Oh yeah yep must
be got we got to finalize those

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things and make them official.

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02:10:23,490 --> 02:10:24,780
Adam Curry: Yeah, well you're in
charge of that.

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02:10:25,230 --> 02:10:32,280
John C. Dvorak: Yeah clearly I
will say we I mean me

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02:10:32,310 --> 02:10:35,910
Adam Curry: well we we spent a
lot of time editing a shield so

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you know, I can understand why
we didn't have time to do the

2238
02:10:38,580 --> 02:10:40,110
shapeshifting donation.

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John C. Dvorak: Anyway, thanks,
Claire. Richard spa sto $101. In

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one sense when I

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Adam Curry: want to one up
digital the binary

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02:10:50,370 --> 02:10:53,370
John C. Dvorak: binary is the
best podcast in universe

2243
02:10:53,970 --> 02:10:59,340
Richard's igk Sargent postle
Miami Lakes Florida continue the

2244
02:10:59,340 --> 02:11:06,450
great show $100.33 in the field
100 from Great Britain. And then

2245
02:11:06,450 --> 02:11:10,920
coincidentally, in Trimble,
Baton Rouge, Louisiana random

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02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:14,580
numbers. He's calling out Andre
for being a Boehner and not a

2247
02:11:14,580 --> 02:11:22,260
donor this by the way, the third
time he's called him out so

2248
02:11:22,260 --> 02:11:25,170
apparently is not effective.
It's not working really well.

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02:11:25,260 --> 02:11:27,660
Andres probably doesn't even
listen to the show. That's when

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I guess Tom Chenault Shahnawaz
one Shan Shan one about

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02:11:33,390 --> 02:11:33,960
schenone.

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02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:39,600
Adam Curry: Testing has schenone
made me be sure unknown.

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02:11:42,090 --> 02:11:43,620
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, he's
looking forward to the Chicago

2254
02:11:43,620 --> 02:11:49,500
meetup. That's 9669 Daniel Bryan
Brecker break in Lakeland,

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Tennessee. Eight, Sir Kevin
McLaughlin de vie count of Luna

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locust North Carolina's 80806
lopsided, lopsided boom. Yeah.

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02:12:06,090 --> 02:12:11,250
Sir Brian, cough man in
Scottsdale, Arizona 7575 that

2258
02:12:11,250 --> 02:12:17,730
came in as a check mark men sick
7333 And he's got a shout out

2259
02:12:17,730 --> 02:12:21,240
for his daughter in law
Brittany. Birthday birthday on

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02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:26,730
the list. Greg house 75 first
time donor get muddy douching

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Unknown: you've been de deuced

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John C. Dvorak: Stephen or
Stephen Hutto in Wilmington,

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Delaware. 7076 96 Nine. Do you
read this? I'm requesting a

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02:12:41,730 --> 02:12:45,330
housing karma. We'll put that at
the end if donating the past has

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02:12:45,330 --> 02:12:48,810
been compared to the value I've
received. I like a D douching.

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Okay, we can do

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Unknown: you spend D deuced.

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02:12:53,910 --> 02:12:56,880
John C. Dvorak: And he wants to
call out Eric and Caleb for

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02:12:56,880 --> 02:12:57,270
being

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02:12:57,300 --> 02:13:00,720
Adam Curry: douchebags I'll do a
double one.

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02:13:02,910 --> 02:13:08,730
John C. Dvorak: Two John Helmer
in Shawnee, Kansas 6950 He wants

2272
02:13:08,730 --> 02:13:13,440
to do a 60 minute 50 donation
for the 50th anniversary of the

2273
02:13:13,620 --> 02:13:16,110
Apollo 11 Moon Landing and 69

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02:13:18,210 --> 02:13:22,020
Adam Curry: He didn't have to
send it Yeah, yeah, I mean,

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02:13:22,050 --> 02:13:22,500
there was no

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02:13:23,309 --> 02:13:27,329
John C. Dvorak: agenda at
invisible hat. Exactly. Fair and

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Mark Tanner in Whittier,
California 6789 Sir Kellyanne de

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02:13:30,539 --> 02:13:35,759
man Dre. Andrea, if at 510 Thank
you, sir. Loud pipes. 5510

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02:13:35,940 --> 02:13:38,280
Adam Curry: Ah, this donation
brings me to Baronet status

2280
02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:40,770
although I can't think of a
catchy new title. May I please

2281
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:43,890
attend the title chain ceremony
anyway? Yes, of course. Thank

2282
02:13:43,890 --> 02:13:47,280
you. Thanks for all you guys do
and producing the best podcast

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02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:50,190
in universe onward sir. Loud
pipes. Of course, you will be a

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baronet's momentarily.

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02:13:51,419 --> 02:13:57,419
John C. Dvorak: Man, Herb, St.
St. Joseph, Minnesota 55. And

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he's a de douching

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Unknown: de deuced.

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02:14:04,500 --> 02:14:06,180
John C. Dvorak: He says the
show's worth every penny. You

2289
02:14:06,180 --> 02:14:09,840
two have literally changed my
whole outlook on life and are

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02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:14,010
the only news source which is
beneficial for spy agencies to

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02:14:14,010 --> 02:14:18,510
know so they can donate and have
their moment of disinformation.

2292
02:14:18,900 --> 02:14:23,220
Yeah, so we've been saying yes,
exactly. They don't pony up

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02:14:23,220 --> 02:14:30,930
enough. Richard L. Hufford in
Tempe Arizona. 5350. I'm sorry

2294
02:14:31,050 --> 02:14:39,210
3333. He's trading his cable
bill for us. More expensive

2295
02:14:39,210 --> 02:14:43,770
cable bill, Tom Miller 5050. And
the following people are $50

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donors name and location where
applicable, Patrick may calm in

2297
02:14:46,890 --> 02:14:51,270
New York City. Sir Patrick make
I'm sorry, David Timmons in

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Oklahoma City. Alexa Delgado in
Aptos. California David McLean

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Parts Unknown Maxine Waters
gravels I love that Dame J of

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02:15:03,510 --> 02:15:04,860
the angry clouds.

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02:15:04,890 --> 02:15:07,320
Adam Curry: Hey, wait a minute
Did you get a Keep America Great

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cap?

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John C. Dvorak: I did not get a
keep America. Great cap. Well,

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Maxine

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Adam Curry: Waters gravel says
JC de enjoy your new Keep

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America Great cap. If ACC had a
mailbox I'd sent him one too. I

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don't have a mailbox. But I do
have a Pio box which I'd like to

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remind everyone is if I could
remember it myself. PO Box

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1820 918 209 Austin, Texas
78760.

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John C. Dvorak: I'll take a hat.
You got to take a hat. Well,

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02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:47,370
that's probably on its way.
Serve as squares. Fit the door.

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Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, it
says did you I'm sorry. Did you

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Dame J of the angry clouds.
Maybe I missed that. i Sorry,

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John C. Dvorak: David J of the
angry cloud. I missed it. Sorry.

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Chavez squares, Grant cloaking
cloak hide or cloak ID. My

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favorite podcast he says Marcus
McHale,

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Adam Curry: Marcus Marcus Marcus
Miller from door Deutschland

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Marcus Mueller Deutschland? Oh,
Mueller. Is Mueller. Yes. Yes.

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Marcus Unicode.

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John C. Dvorak: I got mortgage
Unicode. Sir Brian Baron of

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Costa Mesa, Andrew, Andrew,
Andrew. But instead, Adam

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Conklin, Parts Unknown Daniel, a
boy in Bath Michigan, Donald

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ripple in Dresden, Ohio. And
last but not least, our Baron

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over here in Oakland,
California, who never shows up

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at the meetups. Baron Alan Bean
of Oakland, California want to

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thank all those folks for
contributing and supporting and

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02:16:41,970 --> 02:16:45,990
producing show 1149. Your help
was greatly appreciated.

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Adam Curry: Yes. And I also want
to thank Producer Jeff in

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Portugal, who apparently knew
the general manager at the hotel

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we were staying at at the
resort. And it paid off in

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02:16:58,950 --> 02:17:03,690
spades. We were well taken free
snots of free stuff, triple

2332
02:17:03,690 --> 02:17:06,300
tiered meat and cheese plates in
the room every night was

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02:17:06,300 --> 02:17:10,410
champagne. Thank you felt so
elite, it was fantastic pay very

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much appreciated

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John C. Dvorak: that actually
champagne or sparkling sparkling

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wine.

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Adam Curry: And thank you
everybody who came in under $50.

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That's the place where you can
donate if you want to remain

2339
02:17:20,940 --> 02:17:23,370
anonymous, because we will never
read those names. But it's also

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people who are on many of the
subscriptions you can find more

2341
02:17:26,040 --> 02:17:29,580
information about the
subscriptions@vortec.org

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Unknown: slash n a. And again,
thank

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02:17:31,830 --> 02:17:34,260
Adam Curry: you very much. It is
what keeps the show going. It is

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our value for value proposition.
Look it up. People talk about

2345
02:17:37,950 --> 02:17:42,600
it. Just Google News with no
agenda and no as promised jobs,

2346
02:17:42,780 --> 02:17:46,890
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

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You've got karma.

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Adam Curry: As the 23rd of June
2019, where does the time go?

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We've got birthdays for today.
First belated. Lisa Stelter says

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Happy Birthday your husband
Paul, you celebrated on the 20th

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I think we might have missed
that one up. So apologies and

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happy birthday. belatedly, Paul.
Lindsey Heitmann says Happy

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Birthday to bill in Arlington
and says thanks for hitting me

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02:18:16,800 --> 02:18:20,220
in the mouth and being the best
friend a girl could ask for.

2355
02:18:20,460 --> 02:18:24,630
John Fasano says Happy Birthday
to a smokin hot wife Tracy. She

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celebrates today as does Mark
men six daughter in law Brittany

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happy birthday from everybody
here the best podcast in the

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universe it's like a pot. That's
right. Here's your Meetup list.

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You can find them all with no
agenda meetup.com The 27th of

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June southeast London. Rican Oh
South East London convenes we

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have southeast and southwest
people pay attention. The 28th

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Salem, Oregon 29th. South
Florida meet up July 4 Seattle

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July 6 Utrecht in the
Netherlands, July 9, Knoxville,

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Tennessee the 11th and
Charleston. We've got Atlanta,

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Georgia on July 13. southwest
London on July 20. July 26 St.

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Louis July 27. Buffalo New York
July 27. to Frisco Texas. And

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Wasn't there a Chicago meetup
coming soon?

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John C. Dvorak: I think is this
weekend maybe or next?

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Adam Curry: Oh, that's too soon.
Shoot really? A Tina and I want

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to go to the Chicago meetup.
It's too soon. Well, maybe maybe

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02:19:31,080 --> 02:19:32,880
the next one. And John Oh,

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John C. Dvorak: I don't know.
It's just you gotta go to the

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website to find out no agenda

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Adam Curry: meetups.com I'll
check it later on. And this is

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kind of our pledge and I think
you're gonna do it to John we're

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gonna we're gonna try and do
some more meetups, attend them

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ourselves. Because it really
it's fun. Enjoyed very, very

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much. Let's see Oh, yes, of
course we have this change I

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don't want to be a douchebag It
goes out to Sir loud pipes you

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heard from earlier with his
donation on the best podcast,

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the university has upgraded his
status to baronet's and of

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course still night of the no
agenda roundtable brand new

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title, Berna, thank you very
much for your courage. And

2384
02:20:15,480 --> 02:20:19,590
again, everybody should consider
supporting this show go to

2385
02:20:19,590 --> 02:20:22,200
DeVore ak.org/any.

2386
02:20:24,360 --> 02:20:28,320
John C. Dvorak: You know,
knighting snow knighting snow

2387
02:20:28,320 --> 02:20:28,470
No,

2388
02:20:28,470 --> 02:20:31,110
Adam Curry: it's the summer.
They're all on that 10th car on

2389
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:36,270
the on the Zephyr apparently.
I'm gonna do some 2020 stuff.

2390
02:20:36,750 --> 02:20:38,190
Bernie crazy. Bernie. I

2391
02:20:38,190 --> 02:20:40,890
John C. Dvorak: got some Bernie
clips I want to play once the

2392
02:20:40,890 --> 02:20:44,070
lated. But there's a couple of
things that come out does strike

2393
02:20:44,070 --> 02:20:47,970
me. Let's try. Well, first of
all, let's talk about Bernie

2394
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:50,910
Bernie's got a good pitch. When
he gets he goes on Fox. He's got

2395
02:20:50,910 --> 02:20:54,000
guts. Yeah, he goes on Fox, he
does this kind of socialist

2396
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:56,550
pitch is kind of misleading.
It's very, it's very attractive.

2397
02:20:56,550 --> 02:21:00,300
I think he's really if they gave
him Bernie would be a guy who

2398
02:21:00,300 --> 02:21:03,600
could easily be Trump if they
played him properly, but they

2399
02:21:03,600 --> 02:21:06,240
won't do it. Because they don't
want Bernie in there. So he's

2400
02:21:06,240 --> 02:21:09,210
not going to make it. But let's
go Bernie on minimum wage and

2401
02:21:09,210 --> 02:21:09,720
Walmart

2402
02:21:09,720 --> 02:21:12,600
Unknown: for federal minimum
wage, and Congress, which you

2403
02:21:12,600 --> 02:21:15,480
are a part of. It's not doing
anything to raise that. So why

2404
02:21:15,480 --> 02:21:18,780
should Walmart raise its wages
on its own when it's already

2405
02:21:18,780 --> 02:21:21,360
paying more than is required by
law? Whoa, whoa,

2406
02:21:21,360 --> 02:21:22,140
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

2407
02:21:22,740 --> 02:21:27,510
whoa. When you say Congress is
not doing I'm not saying you're

2408
02:21:27,510 --> 02:21:31,380
not supporting. But go ahead.
Well, actually, it is my

2409
02:21:31,380 --> 02:21:35,520
legislation that is the dominant
legislation in the Senate. So

2410
02:21:35,520 --> 02:21:37,620
let's be clear, it's not
Congress, it is Republican

2411
02:21:37,620 --> 02:21:42,030
leadership. So I have asked
Mitch McConnell, who apparently

2412
02:21:42,030 --> 02:21:46,440
supports the $7.25 cent federal
minimum wage. Now let me be

2413
02:21:46,440 --> 02:21:49,440
clear, I think a seven and a
quarter minimum wage right now

2414
02:21:49,470 --> 02:21:52,830
is a starvation wage. It is a
disgrace. Minimum wage has not

2415
02:21:52,830 --> 02:21:57,420
been raised in 12 years. So I am
pushing very hard to make sure

2416
02:21:57,420 --> 02:22:02,640
that we have a $15 minimum wage,
so that if you work 40 hours in

2417
02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:05,220
this country, you can live with
a shred of dignity. That's not a

2418
02:22:05,220 --> 02:22:09,030
lot of money. Now, I went to a
Walmart in Bentonville,

2419
02:22:09,390 --> 02:22:14,460
Arkansas, to make this point,
that the family that owns

2420
02:22:14,520 --> 02:22:19,050
Walmart, is the Walton family.
As you may know, Nana, the

2421
02:22:19,080 --> 02:22:21,990
Walton family is the wealthiest
family in America, they are

2422
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:29,760
worth $175 billion 175 billion,
they should be able to pay their

2423
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:34,260
workers a living wage at least
$11 an hour. And now you have

2424
02:22:34,260 --> 02:22:38,040
the absurd situation. That
because they have a starting

2425
02:22:38,070 --> 02:22:42,030
minimum wage in Walmart of $11
an hour, you got many 1000s of

2426
02:22:42,030 --> 02:22:46,020
Walmart employees who are forced
to go on Medicaid, food stamps

2427
02:22:46,020 --> 02:22:49,890
and public housing. And guess
who pays for that? It is the

2428
02:22:49,890 --> 02:22:52,980
taxpayers of America and I don't
think the ordinary taxpayer

2429
02:22:53,100 --> 02:22:55,470
should have to subsidize the
wealthiest family in this

2430
02:22:55,470 --> 02:22:59,580
country. Yeah. I think

2431
02:23:00,390 --> 02:23:03,090
John C. Dvorak: you fabulous
simplistic argument and is it

2432
02:23:03,090 --> 02:23:05,370
really nails he's got to tighten
it up, though.

2433
02:23:06,300 --> 02:23:06,900
Unknown: Well, he's

2434
02:23:06,900 --> 02:23:08,370
John C. Dvorak: not going to
tighten anything up.

2435
02:23:08,640 --> 02:23:11,190
Adam Curry: You know.
Interesting that I asked the

2436
02:23:11,370 --> 02:23:15,870
producer mo Are there any black
celebrities? Who are who

2437
02:23:15,870 --> 02:23:19,890
actually get it and are talking
about ados? says yes, one Killer

2438
02:23:19,890 --> 02:23:22,410
Mike, but he's all in on Bernie.
Which is interesting.

2439
02:23:22,980 --> 02:23:24,960
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Killer
Mike. Well, Killer Mike was one

2440
02:23:24,960 --> 02:23:28,980
of the last guys they used to
Tavis Smiley before he was

2441
02:23:29,100 --> 02:23:31,050
railroaded out of his job.

2442
02:23:31,410 --> 02:23:33,000
Adam Curry: I haven't heard from
him recently.

2443
02:23:33,150 --> 02:23:35,280
John C. Dvorak: No, it's because
they took him they took him out.

2444
02:23:35,640 --> 02:23:39,180
He was a little to liberal. I
mean, in an old fashioned sense.

2445
02:23:39,240 --> 02:23:42,270
He was like for guns. He thought
that the black community should

2446
02:23:42,270 --> 02:23:45,900
know that they should be armed
to the teeth. And him and Killer

2447
02:23:45,900 --> 02:23:50,490
Mike talked about gun control.
We had a clip of it. And how

2448
02:23:50,490 --> 02:23:53,310
blacks needed to be armed and
was like, Well, why would you

2449
02:23:53,310 --> 02:23:56,070
want to take your arm dorms away
from the black community? It's

2450
02:23:56,070 --> 02:23:59,790
the only way they can protect
themselves. bow out. Get him out

2451
02:23:59,790 --> 02:24:00,360
of here.

2452
02:24:00,689 --> 02:24:04,859
Adam Curry: Let me see. We have
a couple there. Your rotor

2453
02:24:04,859 --> 02:24:09,779
phonebank lineage two cents 55
year maybe this was it. This is

2454
02:24:09,779 --> 02:24:10,679
one of your clips. I think

2455
02:24:12,150 --> 02:24:14,520
Unknown: that black people have
learned to the extent that we

2456
02:24:14,520 --> 02:24:17,250
love this country, whatever that
means that we have learned to

2457
02:24:17,250 --> 02:24:21,150
love this country in spite of
and not because

2458
02:24:21,539 --> 02:24:24,119
I love America. This is a it's
an

2459
02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:28,080
Adam Curry: important is a long
clip. Was this yours? Yeah.

2460
02:24:29,430 --> 02:24:32,010
Unknown: thing for me to say
because unlike a lot of other

2461
02:24:32,010 --> 02:24:34,200
people in this country, black or
white, I've traveled to work.

2462
02:24:34,650 --> 02:24:37,230
And I just traveled a couple of
states where I wouldn't states

2463
02:24:37,230 --> 02:24:39,030
where my grandparents and my
vacation. I've traveled the

2464
02:24:39,030 --> 02:24:42,600
world and there is no other
country with the type of

2465
02:24:42,630 --> 02:24:43,500
opportunity.

2466
02:24:43,590 --> 02:24:45,510
Adam Curry: Yeah, and I don't
know where the guns party

2467
02:24:45,750 --> 02:24:48,210
John C. Dvorak: is going. But
that's okay. Yeah, the the two

2468
02:24:48,210 --> 02:24:52,530
of them are big, you know, and
then also smiley went off with

2469
02:24:52,530 --> 02:24:57,690
Cornell. That guy's Yeah,
Cornell West, Cornell West. He

2470
02:24:57,690 --> 02:24:59,970
went onto the road with him to
condemn him

2471
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,880
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oops. And
I

2472
02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:05,850
John C. Dvorak: saw him be him
being all for the Second

2473
02:25:05,850 --> 02:25:09,090
Amendment and condemning Obama
with Cornell who also

2474
02:25:09,090 --> 02:25:13,230
disappeared, they disappeared
him, you know, just sidelined.

2475
02:25:13,230 --> 02:25:15,840
And they basically did the same
thing. They were Ray McGovern

2476
02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:18,060
and everybody else that the
media doesn't agree with, they

2477
02:25:18,060 --> 02:25:20,670
just push them all get rid of
them over the edge, and you can

2478
02:25:20,670 --> 02:25:24,690
go find work on your own you
bastard. And that was the end of

2479
02:25:24,690 --> 02:25:28,860
Tavis Smiley. So you got to
don't know that you can actually

2480
02:25:28,860 --> 02:25:31,650
get your message out by starting
a podcast.

2481
02:25:32,400 --> 02:25:36,360
Adam Curry: So Bernie's, if you
were to just restate what Bernie

2482
02:25:36,360 --> 02:25:38,400
said, what's his message? What
is this pitch

2483
02:25:39,119 --> 02:25:42,719
John C. Dvorak: his pitches
that? Why is the taxpayer

2484
02:25:43,439 --> 02:25:47,909
essentially subsidizing the
workers at Walmart with by

2485
02:25:47,909 --> 02:25:50,489
giving them food stamps, and all
these other things because

2486
02:25:50,489 --> 02:25:53,879
Walmart won't paying him but pay
him a living wage in the US the

2487
02:25:53,879 --> 02:25:58,769
taxpayer as backup. It's there's
no reason for it. You just make

2488
02:25:58,769 --> 02:26:02,519
Walmart pay him more. And you
can do that through legislation.

2489
02:26:02,519 --> 02:26:04,589
That's Bernie's message. Well,
that's been out there for a

2490
02:26:04,589 --> 02:26:08,459
while. Yeah. Well, he's the only
one that seems to be continually

2491
02:26:08,459 --> 02:26:10,679
pushing. Here's this other one.
And this one kind of gets,

2492
02:26:11,069 --> 02:26:14,369
brings a question up in my mind
this is Bernie in the mythical

2493
02:26:14,369 --> 02:26:15,659
working people think at

2494
02:26:15,660 --> 02:26:17,760
Unknown: all. Sir, let me drill
down on that, because here's

2495
02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:21,480
what Maria is Vaart, the
executive director of the

2496
02:26:21,480 --> 02:26:24,540
Democratic socialists for
America told The New York Times

2497
02:26:24,540 --> 02:26:29,100
last year, our ultimate goal
really is for working people to

2498
02:26:29,100 --> 02:26:33,780
run our society and run our
workplaces and our economies.

2499
02:26:33,780 --> 02:26:38,310
And back in the 70s. You seem to
agree, here's a quote from you.

2500
02:26:38,310 --> 02:26:43,050
I favor the public ownership of
utilities, banks and major

2501
02:26:43,050 --> 02:26:46,620
industries. Senator, do you
still believe that in the public

2502
02:26:46,620 --> 02:26:48,450
office of major industry, that

2503
02:26:48,450 --> 02:26:49,620
was not why I

2504
02:26:49,620 --> 02:26:52,980
live in the city that you're
taught where I am right now, we

2505
02:26:52,980 --> 02:26:56,490
do have public ownership of our
electric department and they do

2506
02:26:56,490 --> 02:26:58,860
a pretty good job. A lot of
electric departments all over

2507
02:26:58,860 --> 02:27:03,870
this country are publicly on Do
I believe that workers should

2508
02:27:03,870 --> 02:27:07,140
have more say, and be sitting on
the boards of large

2509
02:27:07,140 --> 02:27:11,190
corporations? Yes, I do. Do I
believe that we should break up

2510
02:27:11,910 --> 02:27:16,290
some of the major banks on Wall
Street and support credit unions

2511
02:27:16,500 --> 02:27:20,520
and community banks? Yes, I do.
So I think really, one of the

2512
02:27:20,520 --> 02:27:24,120
things that we have to look at
is the fact that power in this

2513
02:27:24,120 --> 02:27:27,480
country rests with just a
handful of people, you got six

2514
02:27:27,660 --> 02:27:32,400
financial institutions that have
assets equivalent of 54% of the

2515
02:27:32,400 --> 02:27:36,360
GDP, six institutions control
the flow of trillions of

2516
02:27:36,360 --> 02:27:39,300
dollars. When we talk about
democracy, it means not just

2517
02:27:39,300 --> 02:27:42,720
voting every two years, it's
giving working people more of a

2518
02:27:42,720 --> 02:27:44,640
say in what goes on in the
economy.

2519
02:27:46,230 --> 02:27:48,690
John C. Dvorak: So here's what I
asked a couple of things. First

2520
02:27:48,690 --> 02:27:52,230
of all, why doesn't he promote a
wealth tax? Which I have an

2521
02:27:52,230 --> 02:27:54,360
essay on that I'll be putting on
cosmic

2522
02:27:54,390 --> 02:27:57,030
Adam Curry: cosmic? Oh, good,
always like a cosmic leaning

2523
02:27:57,030 --> 02:27:57,450
essay,

2524
02:27:57,510 --> 02:27:59,940
John C. Dvorak: which will
explain explain what my position

2525
02:28:00,420 --> 02:28:04,170
but who are these mythical
working people working people?

2526
02:28:04,320 --> 02:28:06,540
Who are these working people
that talk about the gardener's?

2527
02:28:06,570 --> 02:28:09,480
Are they talking about the guys
at the toll booth? Are they

2528
02:28:09,480 --> 02:28:12,120
talking about somebody on an
assembly line? They wanted to

2529
02:28:12,120 --> 02:28:16,110
get the Tesla factory? I mean,
what is this working people? Why

2530
02:28:16,110 --> 02:28:21,090
should they be given so much
power? Their slave wage slaves

2531
02:28:21,090 --> 02:28:25,260
is what he's talking about. And
they're there. They can be

2532
02:28:25,260 --> 02:28:29,970
anybody. I mean, we're working
people from a basic definition.

2533
02:28:30,060 --> 02:28:36,120
Right now we're working. And
just anybody that does anything,

2534
02:28:36,120 --> 02:28:38,760
you got your garden in your own
backyard, you pound a nail in

2535
02:28:38,760 --> 02:28:42,000
your house, is that mean? You're
a worker working? This is

2536
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:45,270
bullcrap is working the working
people, the working people,

2537
02:28:45,270 --> 02:28:47,850
everybody's a working person, at
some level. So

2538
02:28:47,850 --> 02:28:50,310
Adam Curry: what is it code for
that is code for something code

2539
02:28:50,310 --> 02:28:51,570
for the poor? I don't know

2540
02:28:51,570 --> 02:28:53,670
John C. Dvorak: what it's code
for to be honest about it. I'll

2541
02:28:53,670 --> 02:28:58,200
tell you what it is. It's cool.
It's It's code for you. Being a

2542
02:28:58,470 --> 02:29:02,430
communist socialist. It's a
words that don't mean anything

2543
02:29:02,430 --> 02:29:06,000
but it's a signal. It's like not
virtue signal. It's like, Hey,

2544
02:29:06,180 --> 02:29:09,570
I'm going to use these terms
because now you can identify me.

2545
02:29:09,570 --> 02:29:12,720
We're fellow travelers. A couple
of reds.

2546
02:29:15,240 --> 02:29:19,410
Adam Curry: Is there I like it.
A couple of reds. Is there some

2547
02:29:19,410 --> 02:29:21,390
secret handshake or decoder
ring?

2548
02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:24,150
John C. Dvorak: And they
recognize each other pretty

2549
02:29:24,150 --> 02:29:28,590
easily? Couple of reds Keppler
reds.

2550
02:29:30,090 --> 02:29:35,160
Adam Curry: I have a 2020 clip.
Okay. I was waiting for it to

2551
02:29:35,160 --> 02:29:38,970
happen. Who was ABC is ABC have
they picked someone that they'd

2552
02:29:38,970 --> 02:29:41,190
like yet? If they decided to

2553
02:29:41,490 --> 02:29:43,740
John C. Dvorak: some I think all
the networks right now are all

2554
02:29:43,740 --> 02:29:47,070
in for Biden and they're doing
what they can to just throw

2555
02:29:47,070 --> 02:29:49,530
stuff at him to see if he can
but it bounces off. We're not

2556
02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:52,710
worried. Well, they worried but
they're in for Biden Titans. The

2557
02:29:52,710 --> 02:29:53,280
guy Tom

2558
02:29:53,280 --> 02:29:57,690
Adam Curry: Yamas through the
kitchen sink at Biden. I mean,

2559
02:29:57,750 --> 02:30:00,990
literally everything that we've
been Talking about that

2560
02:30:01,020 --> 02:30:06,120
troublesome when it comes to Joe
Biden. Sleepy Joe. Isn't that

2561
02:30:06,120 --> 02:30:09,270
isn't that the name be sleepy
Joe. Sleepy Joe is a sleepy guy

2562
02:30:09,330 --> 02:30:13,920
like sleepy Joe. Sleepy Joe.
Here's his problem. We have two

2563
02:30:13,920 --> 02:30:17,310
problems. One is China. We know
China. Really the problem is his

2564
02:30:17,310 --> 02:30:20,700
kid. That's the problem. He got
problematic in 2014,

2565
02:30:20,700 --> 02:30:25,290
Unknown: Ukrainians sick of
corruption revolted. Vice

2566
02:30:25,290 --> 02:30:28,740
President Joe Biden went to
Kyiv. To help the new government

2567
02:30:28,860 --> 02:30:29,370
you have

2568
02:30:29,370 --> 02:30:32,760
to fight the cancer of
corruption.

2569
02:30:33,270 --> 02:30:37,740
But then something strange
happened. Just three weeks

2570
02:30:37,740 --> 02:30:41,940
later, a Ukrainian natural gas
company Burisma accused of

2571
02:30:41,940 --> 02:30:45,900
corruption appoints Hunter Biden
seen here in their promotional

2572
02:30:45,900 --> 02:30:49,590
videos to their board of
directors paying his firm more

2573
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:53,580
than a million dollars a year.
Hunter, a lawyer who had just

2574
02:30:53,580 --> 02:30:56,910
been discharged from the Navy
Reserves for testing positive

2575
02:30:56,910 --> 02:31:01,230
for cocaine, Mr. Hunter Biden.
She has served on other boards,

2576
02:31:01,410 --> 02:31:06,480
but had no known experience in
Ukraine or natural gas. We went

2577
02:31:06,480 --> 02:31:10,500
to Kyiv and found even among Joe
Biden supporters in Ukraine,

2578
02:31:10,680 --> 02:31:12,450
conscious hiring was troubling.

2579
02:31:12,480 --> 02:31:17,250
I think that Hunter Biden did a
very bad thing. And he was very

2580
02:31:17,250 --> 02:31:21,750
wrong. He allowed his name to be
abused.

2581
02:31:21,870 --> 02:31:24,420
And Ukraine wasn't the only
country where Hunter Biden's

2582
02:31:24,420 --> 02:31:27,300
business and his father's
diplomacy as vice president

2583
02:31:27,330 --> 02:31:32,130
intersected. It also happened in
China. This video shows Chinese

2584
02:31:32,130 --> 02:31:35,460
diplomats greeting Vice
President Biden as he arrived in

2585
02:31:35,460 --> 02:31:39,780
Beijing in December of 2013.
Right by his side, his son

2586
02:31:39,780 --> 02:31:43,500
Hunter. Less than two weeks
later, Hunter's firm had new

2587
02:31:43,500 --> 02:31:47,370
business, creating an investment
fund in China involving the

2588
02:31:47,370 --> 02:31:51,090
government controlled Bank of
China. With reports they hope to

2589
02:31:51,090 --> 02:31:56,100
raise $1.5 billion. Hunter still
plays a role in the fund. His

2590
02:31:56,100 --> 02:31:59,550
lawyer says his stake is worth
about half a million dollars.

2591
02:31:59,730 --> 02:32:03,330
Both Hunter and his lawyer say
he never discussed any of his

2592
02:32:03,330 --> 02:32:06,780
overseas work with his father,
Biden's campaign team told us

2593
02:32:06,780 --> 02:32:10,890
that the Vice President acted at
all times in a manner consistent

2594
02:32:10,890 --> 02:32:14,640
with well established Executive
Branch Ethics standards. Now in

2595
02:32:14,640 --> 02:32:17,190
response to our questions, the
Biden campaign for the first

2596
02:32:17,190 --> 02:32:20,100
time is announcing if he's
elected, he will invoke a new

2597
02:32:20,100 --> 02:32:23,190
ethics policy on his first day
in office that would empower

2598
02:32:23,190 --> 02:32:26,160
White House lawyers to monitor
for any types of conflicts of

2599
02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:26,640
interest.

2600
02:32:26,880 --> 02:32:31,170
Adam Curry: I'd say that was a
pretty big trial balloon if

2601
02:32:31,170 --> 02:32:32,640
they're just testing stuff out.

2602
02:32:33,930 --> 02:32:36,630
John C. Dvorak: That was a good
one. That was they're nailing

2603
02:32:36,630 --> 02:32:39,360
you. It's not going to have any
effect. Biden is the guy. Well,

2604
02:32:40,710 --> 02:32:45,930
you said Biden, Kamala Harris. I
gotta say, yes. And that's This

2605
02:32:45,930 --> 02:32:51,300
is No, are you going? Yeah. And
I will say this, she's attacking

2606
02:32:51,300 --> 02:32:55,290
Biden left and right, again,
part of the process. And she

2607
02:32:55,290 --> 02:32:58,740
will be picked because this is
not an uncommon. This happened

2608
02:32:58,740 --> 02:33:03,270
with George HW Bush, when he was
running against Reagan. They

2609
02:33:03,270 --> 02:33:06,390
were judged voodoo economics,
and the guy's a maniac, and he's

2610
02:33:06,390 --> 02:33:09,030
only a Hollywood guy and blah,
blah, blah, boom, Vice

2611
02:33:09,030 --> 02:33:13,350
President. I'm just happened
with Lyndon Johnson and Jack

2612
02:33:13,350 --> 02:33:16,710
Kennedy. This happens with a lot
of these guys. They hate, you

2613
02:33:16,710 --> 02:33:18,720
know, they're running against
each other to get the presidency

2614
02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:21,600
and then they relent and they
become the vice president. But

2615
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:23,220
it showed the show a lot of
gumption.

2616
02:33:23,550 --> 02:33:27,300
Adam Curry: Well, I'm, I'm, I'm
going back and I'm going to say,

2617
02:33:27,630 --> 02:33:34,830
again, that it's that his choice
will be Stacey Abrams. That's

2618
02:33:34,830 --> 02:33:38,730
the that is the only logical
choice for the Democrat party.

2619
02:33:39,720 --> 02:33:43,020
It is definitely not Kamala
Harris.

2620
02:33:43,949 --> 02:33:46,019
John C. Dvorak: Unless I'm
sticking with Kamala Harris. I

2621
02:33:46,019 --> 02:33:48,809
think Stacey Abrams is too
plump, problematic. And by the

2622
02:33:48,809 --> 02:33:53,279
way, if if she if he picks
Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams

2623
02:33:53,279 --> 02:33:55,019
will say that she got picked.

2624
02:33:59,010 --> 02:34:01,140
Adam Curry: Yeah, she declined.
She has better things to do at

2625
02:34:01,140 --> 02:34:02,670
the Council on Foreign
Relations.

2626
02:34:03,180 --> 02:34:05,130
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And
whatever else she's involved in,

2627
02:34:05,130 --> 02:34:06,180
which is sketchy.

2628
02:34:06,300 --> 02:34:08,340
Adam Curry: I'm just saying if I
was if I was advising the

2629
02:34:08,340 --> 02:34:11,250
Democrat party, I would not say
I would say camelhair is bad

2630
02:34:11,250 --> 02:34:20,040
idea. Why? Well, because the
black vote will will shun her.

2631
02:34:23,010 --> 02:34:28,650
John C. Dvorak: It's possible.
But Kamla Harris is very good

2632
02:34:28,650 --> 02:34:31,230
politically, and she's been
worse. She's wormed her way up

2633
02:34:31,230 --> 02:34:35,430
to the ranks and as a US senator
from North Dotson status and

2634
02:34:35,430 --> 02:34:37,890
Adam Curry: going that's before
them. That's before the debate

2635
02:34:37,890 --> 02:34:38,970
of the Muller report.

2636
02:34:39,570 --> 02:34:42,240
John C. Dvorak: And then we go
with you to see I don't think

2637
02:34:42,240 --> 02:34:45,390
Stacey Abrams is even in play,
but you you you're totally

2638
02:34:45,390 --> 02:34:46,770
convinced that she is Yes,

2639
02:34:46,770 --> 02:34:49,680
Adam Curry: I do. Well, you you
still have thoughts on Hillary

2640
02:34:49,680 --> 02:34:54,630
Clinton. I do. Are they dirty
thoughts are just thoughts.

2641
02:34:55,860 --> 02:34:59,940
Sorry. Anyone else we need to

2642
02:35:02,310 --> 02:35:04,710
John C. Dvorak: Nothing. I mean,
I don't have any more clips from

2643
02:35:04,710 --> 02:35:05,940
anyone. I don't think

2644
02:35:05,970 --> 02:35:08,640
Adam Curry: Buddha judge me. I
tried to get a clip of Buddha

2645
02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:14,580
judge. He went, he went to some
black voters in, in some small

2646
02:35:14,580 --> 02:35:18,090
town and wasn't maybe no, it was
South Bend actually South Bend,

2647
02:35:18,090 --> 02:35:22,650
Indiana. I think a cop had been
like it was Black Lives Matter

2648
02:35:22,650 --> 02:35:23,160
people.

2649
02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:26,130
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, they get
to dish out like, some poor guy.

2650
02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:26,550
Yeah.

2651
02:35:27,150 --> 02:35:30,030
Adam Curry: And then and he's
standing there. And he's like,

2652
02:35:30,030 --> 02:35:33,870
Well, you know, whatever. He was
just very quiet. And then a

2653
02:35:33,870 --> 02:35:38,970
certain point he says, Well, I'm
not asking for your vote. The

2654
02:35:38,970 --> 02:35:42,990
people want You ain't getting it
either. It was. It was it was

2655
02:35:42,990 --> 02:35:45,600
inaudible I really wanted to
clip it. We just could not

2656
02:35:45,600 --> 02:35:49,500
cannot hear what was going on.
But he's he's failing. It's

2657
02:35:49,500 --> 02:35:50,070
failing.

2658
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:53,340
John C. Dvorak: But he was he's
a mayor, a small town mayor,

2659
02:35:54,060 --> 02:35:56,550
Adam Curry: small town from a
hamlet Hamlet.

2660
02:35:57,900 --> 02:36:00,090
John C. Dvorak: So let's go
there is an interesting I got

2661
02:36:00,090 --> 02:36:03,720
this, pull this down from
democracy now with saving fine,

2662
02:36:03,720 --> 02:36:07,530
I'm not going to do this to
embarrass you. Because I don't

2663
02:36:07,530 --> 02:36:12,720
think a lot of people would pick
this up. But if you're a news

2664
02:36:12,720 --> 02:36:17,130
presenter telling this story, I
think you might want to use

2665
02:36:17,130 --> 02:36:20,610
either a fact checker or you got
editors or somebody would pick

2666
02:36:20,610 --> 02:36:24,030
it up. But nobody picked it up
post. So let's play. There's a

2667
02:36:24,030 --> 02:36:27,420
big oil refinery going up in
smoke down in Philadelphia,

2668
02:36:27,660 --> 02:36:31,380
Philadelphia. Yeah, oil refinery
report from democracy now just

2669
02:36:31,380 --> 02:36:32,280
in Philadelphia

2670
02:36:32,280 --> 02:36:35,640
Unknown: battled a massive fire
overnight after a large

2671
02:36:35,640 --> 02:36:40,470
explosion at 150 year old
refinery in South Philadelphia.

2672
02:36:40,800 --> 02:36:44,640
This marked the second time this
month emergency responders were

2673
02:36:44,640 --> 02:36:47,550
called to the Philadelphia
energy solutions refining

2674
02:36:47,550 --> 02:36:53,010
complex, which produces 335,000
barrels of crude oil every day.

2675
02:36:53,250 --> 02:36:56,790
It's said to be the largest such
complex on the US Eastern

2676
02:36:56,790 --> 02:36:59,790
Seaboard. No injuries were
reported, but nearby

2677
02:36:59,790 --> 02:37:02,760
neighborhoods were ordered to
shelter in place.

2678
02:37:03,600 --> 02:37:07,020
Adam Curry: Well, okay, you're
right. You're not trying to

2679
02:37:07,020 --> 02:37:10,740
embarrass me the only thing I
could if I just hearing that the

2680
02:37:10,740 --> 02:37:15,660
only thing I would go and look
up is the 150 year old claim.

2681
02:37:16,680 --> 02:37:19,080
John C. Dvorak: Well, that is
worth looking at. Because I find

2682
02:37:19,080 --> 02:37:22,740
that hard to believe. Because we
don't boil refiners. It may

2683
02:37:22,740 --> 02:37:25,230
there may have been a facility
there, you know, because

2684
02:37:25,260 --> 02:37:29,580
Pennsylvania was one of the
earliest producers of oil. But

2685
02:37:29,580 --> 02:37:33,660
it's when she says the first
produces it produces what three

2686
02:37:33,660 --> 02:37:35,640
and a 3000 Barrels Oh,

2687
02:37:35,640 --> 02:37:37,560
Adam Curry: it doesn't produce
it processes

2688
02:37:37,620 --> 02:37:45,180
John C. Dvorak: Exactly. What
you said processes. Now, the

2689
02:37:45,180 --> 02:37:48,000
other thing they did, she left
out the best part of the story.

2690
02:37:48,450 --> 02:37:52,110
To me if she wanted to be you
know, sterile or just terrible,

2691
02:37:52,350 --> 02:37:55,440
you would met you as such to
talk about the hydrofluoric

2692
02:37:55,440 --> 02:37:58,470
alkylation plant. This is one of
the few refineries known that

2693
02:37:58,470 --> 02:38:01,860
there's maybe a dozen in the
country that use this process.

2694
02:38:02,280 --> 02:38:06,930
It's a process to make ISO
octane or some other chemicals

2695
02:38:06,930 --> 02:38:10,200
that are really important to
gasoline, and especially in cold

2696
02:38:10,200 --> 02:38:14,070
weather climates. But the
processes can be used with

2697
02:38:14,070 --> 02:38:17,670
either sulfuric acid as a base
or hydrofluoric acid, which is

2698
02:38:17,670 --> 02:38:21,960
the most deadly thing on earth.
And it's right in the middle. I

2699
02:38:21,960 --> 02:38:24,420
didn't I was just reading about
this and holy crap, they're

2700
02:38:24,420 --> 02:38:29,670
using h f, which is the worst
stuff. One drop of hydrofluoric

2701
02:38:29,670 --> 02:38:33,120
acid, one drop, you say of a
drop of hydrofluoric acid, you

2702
02:38:33,120 --> 02:38:36,690
drop it on your hand, goes right
through, reaches down through

2703
02:38:36,690 --> 02:38:42,090
the skin and attacks the bones
and dissolves them sweet. This

2704
02:38:42,090 --> 02:38:45,090
is a plague of a product that
shouldn't be used to hide this

2705
02:38:45,090 --> 02:38:48,270
sulfuric acid version of these
of these facilities work just as

2706
02:38:48,270 --> 02:38:51,240
well they just these it costs a
little more. It's a cheaper way

2707
02:38:51,240 --> 02:38:54,300
to go with the hydrochloric acid
but in the middle of the town

2708
02:38:54,300 --> 02:38:58,020
and if this thing's burning, and
it hydrofluoric acid gas leaks

2709
02:38:58,020 --> 02:39:02,310
out and or explodes. You're
gonna have a huge health problem

2710
02:39:02,310 --> 02:39:05,820
in that area. Huge. And she
doesn't even mention it well,

2711
02:39:06,090 --> 02:39:09,390
Adam Curry: being the guy who
was kind of from Jersey. Hey,

2712
02:39:09,390 --> 02:39:14,850
who cares? It's Philly. In 1866,
one year after the end of the

2713
02:39:14,850 --> 02:39:17,700
Civil War, Atlantic petroleum
company established its

2714
02:39:17,700 --> 02:39:22,890
operations at Point Breeze along
the Schuylkill River below

2715
02:39:22,920 --> 02:39:26,580
persoonlijke Avenue. Four
warehouses were built and those

2716
02:39:26,580 --> 02:39:30,900
could store 50,000 barrels of
refined oil product, mostly

2717
02:39:30,900 --> 02:39:34,260
kerosene used as lamp oil to
light the homes and businesses

2718
02:39:34,260 --> 02:39:39,000
in the growing city. Yeah. So
that's where the 150 years comes

2719
02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:39,360
from.

2720
02:39:39,720 --> 02:39:41,790
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. The
warehouse.

2721
02:39:43,260 --> 02:39:46,740
Adam Curry: Well, to be fair, it
says the PE s Philadelphia

2722
02:39:46,740 --> 02:39:51,300
refining complex has been part
of the neighborhood for over 150

2723
02:39:51,300 --> 02:39:55,590
years, and is closely tied to
the growth of the American oil

2724
02:39:55,590 --> 02:39:58,410
industry that's their own their
own headline from

2725
02:39:58,890 --> 02:40:00,960
John C. Dvorak: say that if you
have If you're in the middle of

2726
02:40:00,960 --> 02:40:05,310
Philadelphia and you have a
hydrofluoric acid process in the

2727
02:40:05,310 --> 02:40:09,120
middle of a such a populous area
I would die would that's what

2728
02:40:09,120 --> 02:40:13,620
I'd be getting. If I was a local
I mean seriously, I'd get out of

2729
02:40:13,620 --> 02:40:17,580
town I take a vacation while
there's things burnin. Come back

2730
02:40:17,580 --> 02:40:19,170
your house is like dissolved.

2731
02:40:19,890 --> 02:40:25,590
Adam Curry: Have you noticed
that ever since the

2732
02:40:25,620 --> 02:40:30,090
pharmaceutical companies got
this mandatory vaccination stuff

2733
02:40:30,090 --> 02:40:36,420
in place in New York now by law,
yeah, the measles stories have

2734
02:40:36,420 --> 02:40:39,810
just kind of evaporated. It's
just it's just something we want

2735
02:40:39,810 --> 02:40:43,170
to pay attention to. It's one of
those crazy things that happens

2736
02:40:43,170 --> 02:40:48,720
it's everything got saw a
coincidence. Once we had the law

2737
02:40:48,720 --> 02:40:52,590
in place, it was great. We all
live and it's all a happy day.

2738
02:40:53,790 --> 02:40:54,960
Crazy. That was just

2739
02:40:54,960 --> 02:40:56,850
John C. Dvorak: actually I
failed to note that.

2740
02:40:57,930 --> 02:40:59,040
Unknown: I think not.

2741
02:41:00,960 --> 02:41:03,900
Adam Curry: And then for our
friends and Gitmo nation east

2742
02:41:03,930 --> 02:41:09,930
from Reuters headline. London
murder rate overtakes New York

2743
02:41:10,020 --> 02:41:15,930
as knife crime rises. knife
crime. That's right. 15 murders

2744
02:41:15,930 --> 02:41:22,140
in London in February against 14
in New York. And for March 22

2745
02:41:22,140 --> 02:41:25,230
murders in London 21 in New
York, if they're just leaving by

2746
02:41:25,230 --> 02:41:28,290
a bit, though not much we can
still catch up New York. In the

2747
02:41:28,290 --> 02:41:30,960
latest bloodshed. The 17 year
old girl died on Monday if she

2748
02:41:30,960 --> 02:41:33,870
was found with gunshot wounds in
Tottenham North London. Oh,

2749
02:41:33,870 --> 02:41:39,300
that's not a knife crime. How
I'm British have you but the

2750
02:41:39,300 --> 02:41:42,090
mayor is deeply concerned by
violent crime in the capital.

2751
02:41:42,750 --> 02:41:51,270
Thank you. Sadiq Khan so sad
man. People have guns shoot

2752
02:41:51,270 --> 02:41:53,490
these knives. Yeah.

2753
02:41:55,440 --> 02:41:57,480
John C. Dvorak: So we have a we
have a couple of interesting

2754
02:41:57,480 --> 02:42:00,330
things going on. In Oregon, the
Republicans are staying out of

2755
02:42:00,330 --> 02:42:05,760
their out of their legislature
to actually can't have a quorum

2756
02:42:05,760 --> 02:42:08,370
because they wanted to pass a
bunch of climate change stuff.

2757
02:42:08,370 --> 02:42:12,540
And so the Republicans who got
in on it they cygnets and they

2758
02:42:12,540 --> 02:42:17,670
left and nothing had been done
about it. I have a little clip.

2759
02:42:17,670 --> 02:42:18,540
21 seconds

2760
02:42:18,570 --> 02:42:21,810
Unknown: back in this country.
11 Republican state senators in

2761
02:42:21,840 --> 02:42:26,370
Oregon stayed off the job for a
second day to block climate

2762
02:42:26,370 --> 02:42:29,970
legislation. Majority Democrats
are pushing a measure to make

2763
02:42:29,970 --> 02:42:34,110
dramatic cuts in greenhouse gas
emissions Republicans want a

2764
02:42:34,110 --> 02:42:37,920
public referendum instead and
they refuse to show up to

2765
02:42:37,920 --> 02:42:42,000
deprive the state Senate of a
quorum moves

2766
02:42:42,540 --> 02:42:44,220
Adam Curry: Alright one more we
got to get this done

2767
02:42:44,250 --> 02:42:47,130
John C. Dvorak: so let's go
public access in New York City

2768
02:42:47,220 --> 02:42:49,140
there's a big there's a big to
do

2769
02:42:49,140 --> 02:42:52,770
Adam Curry: going public access
public access for cable yeah

2770
02:42:52,770 --> 02:42:56,010
cable access do we need to
explain what public access is to

2771
02:42:56,010 --> 02:42:57,630
anybody people should know but
they don't

2772
02:42:57,630 --> 02:42:59,970
John C. Dvorak: I guess they
don't you should yeah all the

2773
02:42:59,970 --> 02:43:04,440
cable systems of God did a deal
to get cable to you know to get

2774
02:43:04,440 --> 02:43:07,500
cable in certain neighborhoods
or they had to provide free X in

2775
02:43:07,500 --> 02:43:07,560
the

2776
02:43:08,070 --> 02:43:10,890
Adam Curry: in the 80s this
started right I'm sorry in the

2777
02:43:10,890 --> 02:43:12,780
80s started in the 80s all this
stuff?

2778
02:43:13,080 --> 02:43:16,710
John C. Dvorak: I think so.
Yeah. But it whenever it started

2779
02:43:16,710 --> 02:43:19,350
it was a cable company says
we're gonna put a couple

2780
02:43:19,350 --> 02:43:22,170
channels on and you guys can get
we put a studio up then you guys

2781
02:43:22,170 --> 02:43:24,930
can come in and do shows. And
that you know very few people

2782
02:43:24,930 --> 02:43:27,150
have done any shows where the
crap is up to New York where

2783
02:43:27,150 --> 02:43:28,050
they had some great

2784
02:43:28,050 --> 02:43:32,310
Adam Curry: show ugly George
channel J. Robin bird show. Come

2785
02:43:32,310 --> 02:43:34,140
on. Let me bang your box.

2786
02:43:34,470 --> 02:43:36,690
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, she's Nate
and the naked there's much of

2787
02:43:36,690 --> 02:43:40,830
naked shows. I think it shows
right crazy adds the extra race

2788
02:43:40,830 --> 02:43:45,570
stuff. I love this for
something. Anyway, so let's hear

2789
02:43:45,570 --> 02:43:46,590
what's going on. And a

2790
02:43:46,590 --> 02:43:49,440
Unknown: five to four decision
Supreme Court justices ruled

2791
02:43:49,440 --> 02:43:52,590
Monday along partisan lines that
New York City's public access

2792
02:43:52,590 --> 02:43:56,160
station Mnn is not bound by the
First Amendment which would

2793
02:43:56,160 --> 02:43:59,250
protect producers from editorial
control or censorship by the

2794
02:43:59,250 --> 02:44:02,610
network. Justice Brett Kavanaugh
wrote the opinion for the

2795
02:44:02,610 --> 02:44:06,030
conservative majority. The case
against the nonprofit cable

2796
02:44:06,030 --> 02:44:09,030
channel Manhattan neighborhood
network known as Mnn was brought

2797
02:44:09,030 --> 02:44:12,090
by independent producer Didi
Halleck, who said she and her co

2798
02:44:12,090 --> 02:44:14,790
producer were suspended after
submitting a video accusing the

2799
02:44:14,790 --> 02:44:17,640
station of neglecting the East
Harlem area where one of its

2800
02:44:17,640 --> 02:44:20,910
production facilities is located
and banana allege she was

2801
02:44:20,910 --> 02:44:23,520
suspended because her video
contain footage in which her co

2802
02:44:23,520 --> 02:44:26,190
producer made statements
intended to incite violence and

2803
02:44:26,190 --> 02:44:30,660
harass staff in violation of Mnn
program content restrictions. In

2804
02:44:30,660 --> 02:44:34,410
her dissent. Justice Sonia
Sotomayor wrote, quote, New York

2805
02:44:34,410 --> 02:44:37,860
City opened up a public forum on
public access channels in which

2806
02:44:37,860 --> 02:44:40,830
it has a property interest. It
asked him an end to run that

2807
02:44:40,830 --> 02:44:44,190
public forum and eminent
accepted the job that makes them

2808
02:44:44,190 --> 02:44:46,890
an end subject to the First
Amendment just as if the city

2809
02:44:46,890 --> 02:44:50,820
had decided to run the public
forum itself said to my our said

2810
02:44:51,120 --> 02:44:54,150
Adam Curry: when I lost the plot
on that one.

2811
02:44:55,440 --> 02:44:58,140
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, these dues
to producers that did a show

2812
02:44:58,140 --> 02:45:01,590
they were blasting their own
Station and then you know and

2813
02:45:01,590 --> 02:45:04,590
then telling people to tear down
the play there was just a couple

2814
02:45:04,590 --> 02:45:08,310
of bad actors that the station
decided hey we don't want you on

2815
02:45:08,310 --> 02:45:11,220
here anymore so they did it
first amendment lawsuit is

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02:45:11,220 --> 02:45:14,700
Sotomayor who is one of the you
know biggest idiots on the

2817
02:45:14,700 --> 02:45:20,310
Supreme Court she go free is
your first amendment you know

2818
02:45:20,310 --> 02:45:22,800
she wouldn't do the same thing
for a university where they they

2819
02:45:22,800 --> 02:45:27,090
banned okay God she'll do it for
this stupid station and as

2820
02:45:27,090 --> 02:45:29,760
became a Supreme Court case my
God.

2821
02:45:30,510 --> 02:45:32,520
Adam Curry: To be fair, she's
only like five feet tall. So I

2822
02:45:32,520 --> 02:45:37,170
don't know if she's the biggest
idiot just being literal there.

2823
02:45:38,070 --> 02:45:42,150
All right, everybody. I think
we've we've earned our spurs

2824
02:45:42,150 --> 02:45:46,050
today. Least feels like it.
appreciate the support and

2825
02:45:46,050 --> 02:45:50,040
continue to do that a
divorce.org/na that will take

2826
02:45:50,040 --> 02:45:52,200
any kind of support. You got
ideas, you got insight

2827
02:45:52,200 --> 02:45:54,900
information new should come into
light. You got artwork, you got

2828
02:45:54,900 --> 02:45:57,570
jingles. We'll take it. We love
it. It is after all your

2829
02:45:57,570 --> 02:46:02,040
podcasts, the best podcasting
University no agenda show. And

2830
02:46:02,040 --> 02:46:05,340
coming to you from the frontier
of Austin, Texas Capitol, the

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02:46:05,340 --> 02:46:07,680
drone Star State FEMA Region
number six and all of your

2832
02:46:07,680 --> 02:46:11,520
governmental maps in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

2833
02:46:11,520 --> 02:46:11,940
curry,

2834
02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:14,010
John C. Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where it looks

2835
02:46:14,010 --> 02:46:17,190
like we almost have a summer
day. I'm John C. Dvorak

2836
02:46:17,220 --> 02:46:20,280
Adam Curry: we return on
Thursday with a another JAM

2837
02:46:20,280 --> 02:46:23,580
PACKED episode full of
deconstruction of media news,

2838
02:46:23,580 --> 02:46:26,190
and just a couple of opinions
here and there from two old

2839
02:46:26,190 --> 02:46:27,540
white guys until then.

2840
02:46:30,450 --> 02:46:31,950
Unknown: Adios MoPhO

2841
02:46:31,980 --> 02:46:40,380
Adam Curry: mofos such Oh, yeah.
GX to Jesse Coyne Nelson, Daniel

2842
02:46:40,380 --> 02:46:43,350
Lewis, thank you very much for
your end of show mixes and stay

2843
02:46:43,350 --> 02:46:50,400
tuned on no agenda stream.com
For random thoughts 48 audios?

2844
02:46:58,260 --> 02:47:05,400
WELL, WELL, WELL, WELL, WELL,
well. WELL, WELL, WELL, WELL,

2845
02:47:05,400 --> 02:47:05,910
WELL, WELL.

2846
02:47:09,510 --> 02:47:10,680
Unknown: Whoa, whoa,

2847
02:47:10,680 --> 02:47:17,160
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

2848
02:47:29,340 --> 02:47:33,930
Is something really out there
three more of US Senator

2849
02:47:33,990 --> 02:47:36,960
received a classified briefing
about UFOs. But

2850
02:47:36,960 --> 02:47:41,370
our destiny beyond the Earth is
not only a matter of national

2851
02:47:41,370 --> 02:47:45,990
identity, but a matter of
national security space force.

2852
02:47:46,500 --> 02:47:51,570
We must have American dominance
in Space Force.

2853
02:47:54,660 --> 02:47:57,780
They should be very, very
worried.

2854
02:47:58,320 --> 02:48:02,460
Now Ron made a big mistake. This
drone was in international

2855
02:48:02,460 --> 02:48:05,250
waters really? We have it all
documented. It's documented

2856
02:48:05,250 --> 02:48:07,320
scientifically, not just words.

2857
02:48:07,770 --> 02:48:10,680
We all know that the mowers are
smart enough to take the

2858
02:48:10,680 --> 02:48:14,610
opportunity which is a small
window. It may not even exist

2859
02:48:14,850 --> 02:48:15,630
within five

2860
02:48:15,630 --> 02:48:19,530
minutes. But are they? It's it
was asked by the president, the

2861
02:48:19,530 --> 02:48:21,960
prime minister of Japan to
deliver a message to the

2862
02:48:21,960 --> 02:48:27,960
Iranians. Not only was they
attacked a Japanese ship, by the

2863
02:48:27,960 --> 02:48:31,860
Japanese Prime Minister is
delivering a message from the

2864
02:48:31,860 --> 02:48:36,240
American president. Let's see
him within negotiates the Space

2865
02:48:36,240 --> 02:48:36,780
Force.

2866
02:48:45,600 --> 02:48:49,620
A US surveillance drone flying
above the Strait of Hormuz over

2867
02:48:49,620 --> 02:48:52,830
international waters shot into
the sky by an Iranian missile.

2868
02:48:52,920 --> 02:48:56,430
This act of aggression is not
gonna stand the same people who

2869
02:48:56,430 --> 02:49:00,720
lured us into the Iraq quagmire
16 years ago or demanding a new

2870
02:49:00,720 --> 02:49:02,040
one. This one with Iran.

2871
02:49:02,130 --> 02:49:05,370
Today. Iran Revolutionary Guard
is revealing to free from that

2872
02:49:05,370 --> 02:49:09,060
flown and claimed it warned
Americans multiple times before

2873
02:49:09,060 --> 02:49:11,220
shooting down that unmanned
aircraft.

2874
02:49:11,430 --> 02:49:14,070
I find it hard to believe it was
intentional. If you want to know

2875
02:49:14,070 --> 02:49:17,070
the truth. I think that it could
have been somebody who was loose

2876
02:49:17,100 --> 02:49:18,420
and stupid that did it.

2877
02:49:18,720 --> 02:49:21,150
Senator Lindsey Graham, for
example, says Americans ought to

2878
02:49:21,150 --> 02:49:24,450
be ready to fight and die for
shipping lanes on the other side

2879
02:49:24,450 --> 02:49:27,300
of the world. As a New York
Times left wing warmonger, Bret

2880
02:49:27,300 --> 02:49:30,660
Stevens is also calling on
Americans to sink the Iranian

2881
02:49:30,660 --> 02:49:32,820
Navy many on the left are for
it.

2882
02:49:32,940 --> 02:49:37,080
But you may not have known is it
back in 2007 Congress directed

2883
02:49:37,080 --> 02:49:41,040
the Pentagon to set up a $22
million search for the truth

2884
02:49:41,610 --> 02:49:43,530
gleaming new stations.

2885
02:49:58,950 --> 02:50:00,570
For rag doll org

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02:50:00,810 --> 02:50:04,830
slash and a half American