1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,530 Adam Curry: To through the two lips puppet, Adam curry, John C. 2 00:00:04,530 --> 00:00:08,280 Devorah. Sunday June 2 2019. This is your award winning keep 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,550 on nation media assassination episode 1143. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,570 Unknown: This is no agenda, saving football 5 00:00:15,570 --> 00:00:18,120 Adam Curry: on the American pitch and broadcasting live from 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,000 the frontier of Austin, Texas capital. The drone star stated 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,130 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry. 8 00:00:23,490 --> 00:00:25,350 John C. Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley I'm John 9 00:00:25,350 --> 00:00:28,470 C. Dvorak skill 10 00:00:30,150 --> 00:00:33,780 Adam Curry: tests my response time or something? wasn't 11 00:00:33,870 --> 00:00:37,260 exactly you have nothing else to say. That's it done. Just yeah. 12 00:00:38,370 --> 00:00:39,540 Yeah. Okay, good. 13 00:00:39,930 --> 00:00:41,790 John C. Dvorak: I had a million things. It was possible. And I 14 00:00:41,790 --> 00:00:44,250 just said, you know, it's too complicated. Okay. 15 00:00:44,940 --> 00:00:49,410 Adam Curry: Well, I do have an idea. It's a big one. It's a 16 00:00:49,410 --> 00:00:54,300 money making one we could even use it as our exit strategy just 17 00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:59,460 to start the show off with that. I can bring football soccer to 18 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:02,490 American screens in a commercially viable way. 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,720 John C. Dvorak: By not running it at all. 20 00:01:06,930 --> 00:01:10,830 Adam Curry: No. I mean, this is the biggest problem why in in 21 00:01:10,830 --> 00:01:11,790 our biggest problem 22 00:01:11,790 --> 00:01:14,160 John C. Dvorak: with soccer in the United States to do it, 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,970 there's two biggest problems the biggest problem is that stinks. 24 00:01:18,090 --> 00:01:21,360 As a game and Americans don't like playing that one. Unless 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,200 you're a girl. 26 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:26,880 Adam Curry: That's That's your opinion. Okay. prob The real 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,450 problem is of course because there are no commercial breaks 28 00:01:30,450 --> 00:01:34,650 it's very difficult for television networks to make 29 00:01:34,650 --> 00:01:36,420 money off of the games. 30 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:39,000 John C. Dvorak: Well, they must make money in Mexico they must 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,340 make money in England they must make money in down the 32 00:01:41,370 --> 00:01:42,120 continent. 33 00:01:42,150 --> 00:01:45,330 Adam Curry: No, actually, they Yeah, they do but there's more 34 00:01:45,330 --> 00:01:49,050 people who want to watch but they also they also have buying 35 00:01:49,050 --> 00:01:52,170 more trucks they also have different Broadcast Systems 36 00:01:52,170 --> 00:01:56,520 different ways of making money but now finally, after having 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,750 seen the highlights of the Champions League, the big game 38 00:02:00,750 --> 00:02:05,760 in in in the champions of Europe and Liverpool beating out 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,980 Tottenham I find God beat Tottenham I think it was two nil 40 00:02:10,980 --> 00:02:17,190 even it was a crazy game was crazy as game but there is now a 41 00:02:17,190 --> 00:02:20,910 way to monetize I have a little clip which we want I'll just 42 00:02:20,910 --> 00:02:23,880 play it they won't really explain immediately but at a 43 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,630 certain points something happened on the field is that 44 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,940 we had a good old fashioned streaker from one side of the 45 00:02:44,940 --> 00:02:50,250 pitch from one goal to the other Kinsey will Wollensky who you 46 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:54,810 must do a quick Bing search on because she was well worth 47 00:02:54,810 --> 00:02:58,530 watching running from one goal to the other. Approximately 48 00:02:58,530 --> 00:03:01,950 three point definitely get everybody American's attention. 49 00:03:01,980 --> 00:03:09,150 $3.97 million pounds worth of advertising for the company she 50 00:03:09,150 --> 00:03:14,490 wore on her shirt, which was the tie heard on the show? Well, 51 00:03:14,490 --> 00:03:16,740 whatever was left of the shirt that she had on, 52 00:03:16,950 --> 00:03:18,810 John C. Dvorak: what was your name again, McKinsey, 53 00:03:18,959 --> 00:03:25,319 Adam Curry: it's Kinsey k i n s e y will Lansky. And this she 54 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:29,459 had a t shirt on for Vitaly uncensored, estimated just under 55 00:03:29,459 --> 00:03:34,889 4 million pounds worth of advertising value. This is the 56 00:03:34,889 --> 00:03:38,429 way to go. Just once again, no one knows when it's going to 57 00:03:38,429 --> 00:03:43,169 happen. We don't know what she or he is going to look like. But 58 00:03:43,169 --> 00:03:47,039 everyone knows. Once again, someone's going to St pretty 59 00:03:47,039 --> 00:03:49,709 much but naked from one end to the other. We're going to see 60 00:03:49,709 --> 00:03:53,279 their advertisement, we take one advertiser and one advertiser 61 00:03:53,279 --> 00:03:57,059 only. We could expand it to two, one for each half of the game 62 00:03:57,089 --> 00:04:01,499 later on. This is finally a way to monetize and the crowd loves 63 00:04:01,499 --> 00:04:10,349 it. Have you seen her? Yeah, she's beautiful. Yes. This is a 64 00:04:10,349 --> 00:04:11,999 money making opportunity. 65 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,580 John C. Dvorak: Well, I don't know who talked her into doing 66 00:04:17,580 --> 00:04:18,840 this, but I just got her name right. 67 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,569 Adam Curry: What do you mean? She has a sponsor? She's an 68 00:04:21,569 --> 00:04:26,519 Instagram influencer, gained a million followers after this 69 00:04:26,519 --> 00:04:29,939 stunt. But look at the t shirt. The T shirt was a sponsored t 70 00:04:29,939 --> 00:04:33,689 shirt. Now she didn't get 4 million pounds for it. But she 71 00:04:33,689 --> 00:04:42,839 got paid for it. And the value is unbelievable. Well, you're 72 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,429 not on board with my idea. She 73 00:04:44,430 --> 00:04:47,010 John C. Dvorak: actually broke she actually. She actually 74 00:04:47,010 --> 00:04:48,090 crashed my browser. 75 00:04:49,740 --> 00:04:52,260 Adam Curry: She crashed a lot of old men's browsers believe me. 76 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:57,510 There you go. Anyway, I thought I thought it was an interesting 77 00:04:57,510 --> 00:04:58,440 way to do it. 78 00:04:59,550 --> 00:05:03,600 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Yeah, you should get you should move back 79 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,590 to Europe and become a member of the FIFO whatever the hell that 80 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:09,900 group is. FIFA Lysa 81 00:05:09,929 --> 00:05:13,019 Adam Curry: even I'm not corrupt enough to join FIFA. It's just 82 00:05:13,019 --> 00:05:17,819 not gonna happen. Anyway, that was my my big idea. Now on to 83 00:05:17,819 --> 00:05:25,349 the news. done there is a little news. Okay. Well, you got I got 84 00:05:25,349 --> 00:05:27,599 nothing. No, I do. I 85 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,760 John C. Dvorak: got a bunch of Assange stuff, which is kind of 86 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,510 interesting. 87 00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:33,390 Adam Curry: Yeah, I think Did I have anything Assange? Yes, I 88 00:05:33,390 --> 00:05:39,270 did. I have I have his lawyer talking to the BBC about his 89 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:40,590 health. Do you want to hear that you 90 00:05:40,590 --> 00:05:42,990 John C. Dvorak: want to go with that? And then we'll go to my 91 00:05:42,990 --> 00:05:43,350 stuff. 92 00:05:43,380 --> 00:05:46,470 Adam Curry: I this was actually this was posted on the the Vimeo 93 00:05:46,470 --> 00:05:50,430 service by Pamela Anderson, which is why I got a lot of 94 00:05:50,430 --> 00:05:55,860 attention. His lawyer speaking with the BBC about his mental 95 00:05:55,890 --> 00:05:56,640 health. Obviously, 96 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,480 Unknown: I cannot reveal the patient, Doctor confidentiality 97 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,410 protected diagnosis, but we could see that Mr. ASOs showed 98 00:06:04,470 --> 00:06:08,970 all symptoms that are typical for prolonged exposure to 99 00:06:08,970 --> 00:06:13,020 psychological torture. Now, recently, my understanding is he 100 00:06:13,020 --> 00:06:16,740 have been transferred to the health care units of the 101 00:06:17,010 --> 00:06:21,240 Belmarsh prison that apparently, there should be some, as I 102 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,790 understand dramatic weight loss, and also a grave deterioration 103 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:32,100 of his capacity to concentrate and actually engage with the 104 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:32,640 lawyers. 105 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Adam Curry: How long has it been since they first carried him 106 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:41,550 out? Now, this kind of also makes me wonder, did they carry 107 00:06:41,550 --> 00:06:43,860 him out? Because he couldn't walk because of his already 108 00:06:43,860 --> 00:06:47,370 dramatic weight loss, which it didn't appear to be his face 109 00:06:47,370 --> 00:06:50,700 seem kind of full? Did he lose all this weight in just what a 110 00:06:50,700 --> 00:06:53,280 month's time? How long? Has it been six weeks? 111 00:06:55,050 --> 00:06:56,970 John C. Dvorak: I don't know the whole thing seems really 112 00:06:56,970 --> 00:07:03,870 strange. But I mean, I'm wondering how much of debt well, 113 00:07:03,870 --> 00:07:04,860 let's just play these clips. 114 00:07:04,890 --> 00:07:07,860 Adam Curry: I love them. I have some more on this, if you want 115 00:07:07,860 --> 00:07:09,060 to hear this a little more, 116 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,790 John C. Dvorak: very terrible to whoever she should have done, 117 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,980 should clean up that audio a little bit. 118 00:07:14,580 --> 00:07:15,780 Adam Curry: That's the BBC man 119 00:07:15,870 --> 00:07:21,000 Unknown: grave deterioration of his capacity to concentrate and 120 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,640 actually engage with the lawyers for trial or not, it seems that 121 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,440 he was not able to stand trial this week. Because of this 122 00:07:31,470 --> 00:07:35,580 medical incapacity to be present in court. It doesn't surprise me 123 00:07:35,580 --> 00:07:38,580 that this is the case. The psychiatrist that accompanies my 124 00:07:38,580 --> 00:07:42,960 mission said his current state is critical. He urgently needs 125 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,800 access to a psychiatrist that is not part of the prison service, 126 00:07:46,950 --> 00:07:51,480 someone that he can fully trust. If he doesn't get that, and if 127 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,560 the pressure on him is not alleviated rapidly, we will have 128 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,190 to expect a rapid and serious deterioration of his state of 129 00:07:59,190 --> 00:07:59,550 health. 130 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:01,260 What does he say now to you? 131 00:08:01,290 --> 00:08:03,390 What was he saying to you when you went to visit him, 132 00:08:03,870 --> 00:08:09,660 she is extremely afraid of what happened to him. He said I 133 00:08:09,660 --> 00:08:15,030 cannot count on the judicial institutions in this country. To 134 00:08:15,030 --> 00:08:19,260 be fair, I cannot count on fair to disrupt proceedings in 135 00:08:19,260 --> 00:08:25,050 Sweden. Everything is biased against me. I have no voice. And 136 00:08:25,050 --> 00:08:28,980 I don't have enough time to prepare my defense in any of 137 00:08:28,980 --> 00:08:32,160 these proceedings. The problem for Julian Assange is that he 138 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:38,190 has multiple, complex legal proceedings that are expanding 139 00:08:38,220 --> 00:08:42,750 as we speak. to various jurisdictions, annual charges 140 00:08:42,750 --> 00:08:48,630 are being added all the time. And he has no chance to prepare 141 00:08:49,170 --> 00:08:50,940 a proper defense for these cases. 142 00:08:53,130 --> 00:08:54,900 John C. Dvorak: Pretty much similar cars, but they're 143 00:08:54,900 --> 00:09:00,510 actually audible. Let's start with Assange being tortured 144 00:09:00,690 --> 00:09:01,740 Democracy Now. 145 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:07,500 Unknown: Joined by Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on 146 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:11,010 torture, coup, welcome to Democracy Now. Why don't you 147 00:09:11,010 --> 00:09:14,250 begin by telling us the results of your report and 148 00:09:14,250 --> 00:09:15,900 describing your visit to 149 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:17,370 see Julian Assange? 150 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,530 Adam Curry: Wait, is this gonna be the same damn guy? 151 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:21,840 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, but you can hear him. Yeah, 152 00:09:21,870 --> 00:09:25,140 Adam Curry: we got you. We heard you the first five times. Are 153 00:09:25,140 --> 00:09:29,520 you still pissed about your clips that sucked last time? Is 154 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,000 that why you're so passively aggressive, of course, stop. 155 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,790 Belmarsh prison in London. 156 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Unknown: No, thank you, me. Well, I did. 157 00:09:39,060 --> 00:09:41,310 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. The bucket sounds well done. 158 00:09:42,210 --> 00:09:45,120 Unknown: Mr. Assange in prison, Belmarsh prison on the ninth of 159 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,760 May in the company of two medical experts. And my primary 160 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,730 concerns really are that I'm extremely worried about his 161 00:09:53,730 --> 00:09:57,000 current state of health, which was alarming already when I 162 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,930 visited him, and which seems to have deteriorated. A rapidly 163 00:10:00,930 --> 00:10:04,530 since then, to the point where he's no longer even able to 164 00:10:04,530 --> 00:10:08,820 stand trial and to participate in court hearings. I must say 165 00:10:08,820 --> 00:10:13,260 that I'm appalled at the sustained and concerted abuse 166 00:10:13,260 --> 00:10:15,960 that this man has been exposed to at the hands of several 167 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,220 democratic states over a period of almost a decade. And I'm 168 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:23,250 gravely concerned about the prospects of a possible 169 00:10:23,250 --> 00:10:26,490 extradition to the United States. As I have indicated this 170 00:10:26,490 --> 00:10:30,750 morning in Geneva, I worried that he would be exposed to a 171 00:10:30,750 --> 00:10:34,380 politicized show trial, in violation of his of his human 172 00:10:34,380 --> 00:10:34,830 rights. 173 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:39,270 John C. Dvorak: Violate violation of human rights. Okay. 174 00:10:39,750 --> 00:10:44,700 Well, hold on, hold on isn't getting suspicious. Yeah. It's 175 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:49,320 so um, there's going to be this argument. First of all, a piece 176 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,040 came out this morning saying, Well, why is it the CIA and the 177 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,130 government going after him about his revelations about vault 178 00:10:56,130 --> 00:11:02,730 seven? Right, which supposedly gave up all the CIA techniques? 179 00:11:03,660 --> 00:11:06,270 Adam Curry: Well, not just the techniques, not just techniques, 180 00:11:06,270 --> 00:11:09,600 but tools as well. I understand tools, tools, tools, and 181 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,240 techniques and techniques, many sources and methods. 182 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,030 John C. Dvorak: And then the article goes on to say, I don't 183 00:11:15,030 --> 00:11:17,370 we don't get to swear they're not going after him for that. 184 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:22,020 But they're gonna go after him on espionage. And then in the 185 00:11:22,020 --> 00:11:25,740 same sense, they say, which is going to be very hard to prove. 186 00:11:25,830 --> 00:11:30,510 Which brings us back to your thesis that this may all the 187 00:11:30,510 --> 00:11:31,230 bullshit. 188 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:35,820 Adam Curry: Well, now I'm thinking, the best solution for 189 00:11:35,820 --> 00:11:40,770 everybody in it mainly for intelligence services. And I'm 190 00:11:40,770 --> 00:11:48,450 looking at you five eyes is to have Assange die. That's the 191 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:51,780 best way WikiLeaks is still WikiLeaks. They can, it can 192 00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:55,860 still be controlled by whoever. And I'm not saying Assange would 193 00:11:55,860 --> 00:11:59,610 actually be dead. But what a what a perfect, perfect setup 194 00:11:59,610 --> 00:12:02,970 right now. The sick is not going well. We haven't seen him. He's 195 00:12:02,970 --> 00:12:06,270 gone. Oops, sorry. Throw a casket in the ground. 196 00:12:06,690 --> 00:12:09,720 John C. Dvorak: And possible. I don't know if he'd go along with 197 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,460 it. But it'd be better than what he's doing. 198 00:12:12,270 --> 00:12:14,640 Adam Curry: Assange, Assange is not important anymore. Now, it's 199 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,570 really about WikiLeaks, which I mean, you tell me remember when 200 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,220 they were literally D platforming wikileaks.org from 201 00:12:23,220 --> 00:12:27,900 the internet by hijacking. The FBI got the DNS, they were 202 00:12:28,260 --> 00:12:31,860 jamming DNS everywhere, then you had tons of mirrors, everyone's 203 00:12:31,860 --> 00:12:36,840 registering a different WikiLeaks domain to help spread 204 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,810 the load. And now it's I don't see any of that just 205 00:12:39,810 --> 00:12:43,500 wikileaks.org. That works fine. They're on Twitter. 206 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:45,960 Unknown: They're on Twitter. 207 00:12:46,410 --> 00:12:47,970 John C. Dvorak: Do you think they're being co opted? 208 00:12:48,750 --> 00:12:52,440 Adam Curry: Yeah, I would say by us. 209 00:12:53,250 --> 00:12:56,400 John C. Dvorak: So let's take a look at the I'm not going to 210 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,060 argue against that. Let's take a look at this guy goes on his 211 00:13:00,060 --> 00:13:03,540 Neil's character who's a un torture guy, and he's supposed 212 00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:06,030 to be able to go in and say you're torturing somebody stop 213 00:13:06,030 --> 00:13:06,210 it. 214 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,070 Adam Curry: I want that job. Good job, great job. 215 00:13:12,420 --> 00:13:14,430 John C. Dvorak: But before getting into his other clips I 216 00:13:14,430 --> 00:13:18,630 want to play because there's an implication that Well, you can't 217 00:13:18,630 --> 00:13:22,950 get a fair trial because there's the jury pool has been tampered 218 00:13:22,950 --> 00:13:27,150 with. I think our left think of a lot of based on our lousy 219 00:13:27,330 --> 00:13:31,560 results from the last newsletter, which were where we 220 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:34,980 discussed Julian Assange, I would guess that a good portion 221 00:13:34,980 --> 00:13:38,520 of our audience, all thing Julian Assange as a trader and 222 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,270 should be hung, 223 00:13:39,390 --> 00:13:42,870 Adam Curry: or? I don't know about that. 224 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,900 John C. Dvorak: It doesn't take a lot. Anyway, so let's listen 225 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:49,350 about you just to get a feeling for what the public might 226 00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:53,820 believe is going on. I have some clips from the view. 227 00:13:59,670 --> 00:14:02,700 Trying to decide which ones to Okay, well, let's go with this 228 00:14:02,700 --> 00:14:08,700 one, which is a gem. This is a this is Whoopi introducing the 229 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:12,630 the arrest of Julian Assange when it happened and enjoy Bay 230 00:14:12,630 --> 00:14:18,390 har jumping in. And Joy brings us back up to speed on exactly 231 00:14:18,390 --> 00:14:22,740 what the situation is in the society and all around. 232 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,520 Unknown: Julian Assange has been arrested. He faces charges in 233 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,140 the US. Right. 234 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,410 John C. Dvorak: She says Julian Assange 235 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,160 Adam Curry: with a weight with a name like Whoopi. What do you 236 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,630 expect? Julian Assange 237 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:40,650 Unknown: has been? He faces charges in the US for conspiring 238 00:14:40,650 --> 00:14:44,700 to hack into a classified government computer. WikiLeaks 239 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:48,630 tweeted that he's won dozens of journalism awards, nominated for 240 00:14:48,630 --> 00:14:53,100 a Nobel Prize every year since 2010. And this is just a 241 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:58,410 campaign by the CIA to delegitimize and dehumanize you, 242 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,800 humanize it It was almost a dehumidifier. 243 00:15:03,060 --> 00:15:04,260 Adam Curry: That's exactly what they're doing. 244 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,330 Unknown: So, you know, so So what do you think it is? What 245 00:15:09,330 --> 00:15:12,510 Why did he break the law? Was it a problem, but 246 00:15:12,510 --> 00:15:16,260 remember what he did originally? Yeah, tell well, he he hacked 247 00:15:16,260 --> 00:15:21,570 into the Democrats, computers. Oh, and helped Trump get elected 248 00:15:21,570 --> 00:15:25,680 basically by exposing Podesta's emails and then, and then call 249 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,590 me when after Hillary and remember that. That's why 250 00:15:28,590 --> 00:15:29,850 trolling, basically. 251 00:15:32,130 --> 00:15:34,260 Adam Curry: Like, I didn't listen to that last vid again. 252 00:15:34,290 --> 00:15:35,670 What did Assange do? 253 00:15:38,850 --> 00:15:44,340 Unknown: Computers and yes, he he hacked into Wow, the 254 00:15:44,340 --> 00:15:46,410 Democrats, computers. 255 00:15:48,270 --> 00:15:50,550 Adam Curry: Two years of Muller report, and this is what you 256 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:51,990 took away from it joy, 257 00:15:52,260 --> 00:15:55,320 Unknown: and helped Trump get elected basically by exposing 258 00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:59,190 Podesta's email. And then call me went after Hillary and 259 00:15:59,190 --> 00:15:59,670 remember that 260 00:16:03,090 --> 00:16:04,980 since 2010, wow. 261 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:13,290 Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, my goodness. Well, she she does not 262 00:16:13,290 --> 00:16:23,400 pass the Mueller test. So So now Assange hacked into the it's no 263 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,880 longer the Russians. It wasn't the internet research agency. It 264 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,080 was Assange, 265 00:16:28,380 --> 00:16:32,130 John C. Dvorak: wells. Coordinates. But that's another 266 00:16:32,130 --> 00:16:36,480 clip Oh, view on Assange. We're working with the Russians. 267 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,350 Adam Curry: Okay. 268 00:16:42,420 --> 00:16:45,030 Unknown: Yeah, there is a different Sunni and being a 269 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:48,360 whistleblower, and being a straight up hacker and what we 270 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:53,070 found out with with Assange is he has conspired with Russia to 271 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:56,760 meddle in our 2016 election. So it was here if that is not 272 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,600 committing a crime yesterday. I don't know what that I failed to 273 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,660 say that under the Freedom of speech, I can't get again. 274 00:17:03,780 --> 00:17:04,920 Here's what I will tell you. I will. 275 00:17:09,150 --> 00:17:12,180 John C. Dvorak: Says that whoopee says oh, so it was him. 276 00:17:12,660 --> 00:17:14,040 Like, like, metal? 277 00:17:14,730 --> 00:17:16,980 Adam Curry: Oh, now we know. Well, let's let's just review 278 00:17:16,980 --> 00:17:20,220 for a second. I don't understand. I know they have 279 00:17:20,250 --> 00:17:23,490 producers on the show. I know that they're constantly talking 280 00:17:23,490 --> 00:17:27,090 into their ears. I know a lot of people watch this show and take 281 00:17:27,090 --> 00:17:32,100 what these women say is gospel. This is pretty sad. To 282 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:34,290 everything she just said is wrong. Everything. 283 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:36,690 John C. Dvorak: Everything. They both said those are two 284 00:17:36,690 --> 00:17:37,410 different women. 285 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,930 Adam Curry: Yes. Well, they all said they've wronged 286 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,230 John C. Dvorak: you. So let's see what McCain has to say 287 00:17:43,290 --> 00:17:44,220 actually prosecuted to 288 00:17:44,220 --> 00:17:47,160 Unknown: the politics of this have always been a completely 289 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,520 hypocritical on both sides. Eric Holder under Obama decided 290 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,750 against pursuing persecution of Assange of concerns that 291 00:17:54,780 --> 00:17:57,210 WikiLeaks was, quote a journalistic organization that 292 00:17:57,210 --> 00:17:59,970 would raise First Amendment issues. Chelsea Manning was 293 00:17:59,970 --> 00:18:04,140 granted clemency Chelsea Manning in 2010 released 750,000 294 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,810 classified and sensitive military documents that put our 295 00:18:06,810 --> 00:18:10,350 national security at lift under the Obama administration. She 296 00:18:10,350 --> 00:18:13,260 was given clemency is this something that a lot of people 297 00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:15,420 who would have put national security at first I put myself 298 00:18:15,420 --> 00:18:17,610 in that category had been warning about and warning about 299 00:18:17,610 --> 00:18:19,620 and warning about and the only time that Democrats started 300 00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:21,870 caring is when it started affecting them politically and 301 00:18:21,870 --> 00:18:24,600 Hillary Clinton's emails were released and John Podesta emails 302 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:25,230 were released just 303 00:18:26,370 --> 00:18:29,940 happened with him that's my so here's here's the problem Hal 304 00:18:30,030 --> 00:18:31,440 started Yeah. 305 00:18:34,770 --> 00:18:37,320 John C. Dvorak: Well, there you go be Rochdale gets a round of 306 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,610 applause. We don't 307 00:18:38,610 --> 00:18:41,010 Adam Curry: even need to extradite him he's guilty done 308 00:18:41,010 --> 00:18:43,890 and rotten in hell already. Doesn't matter. Just bring a 309 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:50,490 piece of hair. There. We got to scalp girls. That's, that's 310 00:18:50,490 --> 00:18:52,980 pretty low. pretty low. 311 00:18:53,220 --> 00:18:55,050 John C. Dvorak: So let's go back to our UN guy. 312 00:18:55,410 --> 00:18:56,820 Adam Curry: This is what's his name again? 313 00:18:56,879 --> 00:19:02,969 John C. Dvorak: Niels Niels something. I got to I got first 314 00:19:02,969 --> 00:19:05,489 of all, let's have a short clip did that kind of reflects what 315 00:19:05,489 --> 00:19:09,569 the view people think? In other words, the jury pool has been 316 00:19:10,109 --> 00:19:14,009 poisoned to the point where it's even if the judge level play 317 00:19:14,009 --> 00:19:16,949 this little clip here Neil's on not guilty plea 318 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,100 Unknown: the same day he was dragged out the embassy after 319 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:23,670 more than six years. And the same day he was pulled into a UK 320 00:19:23,670 --> 00:19:27,420 court. He was given reportedly less than 15 minutes for this 321 00:19:27,420 --> 00:19:31,350 defense lawyer to prepare a defense and then in a very short 322 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:35,700 hearing was convicted for a violation and and and the judge 323 00:19:35,730 --> 00:19:39,780 even insulted him as being a narcissist who cannot get beyond 324 00:19:39,780 --> 00:19:44,640 himself. Now as a lawyer, having worked at court myself, I cannot 325 00:19:44,670 --> 00:19:47,880 imagine how a judge could come to such a conclusion. When the 326 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,820 defendant didn't say anything else in that hearing, then I 327 00:19:50,820 --> 00:19:51,750 plead not guilty. 328 00:19:51,870 --> 00:19:54,600 Adam Curry: No, that's a kangaroo court then obviously. 329 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:55,410 Yes, 330 00:19:55,439 --> 00:19:57,449 John C. Dvorak: thank Well, no, 331 00:19:57,659 --> 00:20:00,779 Adam Curry: of course we do have certain stuff. entered here in 332 00:20:00,779 --> 00:20:04,589 the United States, by give you the example is brought to us by 333 00:20:04,589 --> 00:20:08,189 former CIA chief John Brennan people are innocent until 334 00:20:08,730 --> 00:20:10,530 Unknown: alleged to be involved in some type of criminal 335 00:20:10,530 --> 00:20:10,890 activity. 336 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:12,600 Adam Curry: Okay, just so you know, it's like we're very 337 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,940 similar to the International Criminal Court at this point. 338 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:18,570 John C. Dvorak: Like, let's play the last clip I have Neil's 339 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:25,260 talking about getting a fair trial. In the United States, 340 00:20:25,290 --> 00:20:30,180 yes, I'm currently logged Wait, stop, stop. I, I, I'm wondering 341 00:20:30,180 --> 00:20:35,460 what this I write cues for myself on these clips. And the 342 00:20:35,460 --> 00:20:39,150 queue in this case was asked, and I forgot what it was before 343 00:20:39,150 --> 00:20:45,870 I just threw the clip out. Amy has just asked him, What was the 344 00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:48,420 potential for getting a fair trial in the United States? 345 00:20:48,510 --> 00:20:49,620 Okay. Yes, 346 00:20:49,620 --> 00:20:54,510 Unknown: I'm gravely gravely concerned, I'm almost certain 347 00:20:54,510 --> 00:20:58,890 that you will not get a safe a fair trial and a safe treatment 348 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,390 in the United States. The public prejudice, including on the part 349 00:21:03,390 --> 00:21:07,200 of former and current officials in the United States has is so 350 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:13,320 predominant for for several years now. And, and so that it 351 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,830 would be almost impossible to have an impartial court hearing 352 00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:20,760 where he could actually be heard of his concerns. When we see the 353 00:21:20,790 --> 00:21:24,030 charges that have been added. Now recently, under the 354 00:21:24,030 --> 00:21:27,750 Espionage Act, most of them really relate to activities that 355 00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:31,650 any investigative journalist is conducting every day. So it's 356 00:21:31,650 --> 00:21:35,820 really a reason for concern for press freedom around the world, 357 00:21:36,750 --> 00:21:40,500 then we are also with the United States, unfortunately, dealing 358 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:44,190 with a country that in the last 20 years has not shown to be 359 00:21:44,190 --> 00:21:48,120 consistent in enforcing the prohibition of torture with its 360 00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:51,330 own officials, we can speak to the Senate committee report that 361 00:21:51,330 --> 00:21:54,330 has not led to a single prosecution contrary to their 362 00:21:54,330 --> 00:21:58,560 obligations under the Convention Against Torture. Obviously, the 363 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,100 Collateral Murder video has not led to any prosecutions either. 364 00:22:02,250 --> 00:22:05,370 The only person that is being prosecuted here seems to be the 365 00:22:05,370 --> 00:22:09,180 one that actually exposed all of these. 366 00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:13,650 Adam Curry: That's that's our culture, bro. That's, that's 367 00:22:13,650 --> 00:22:16,770 what our elites always do. Daniel Ellsberg with the 368 00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:21,240 Pentagon Papers room Espionage Act. course that's that's what 369 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,160 we do. We are horrible that way. 370 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:29,220 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, it tends to work a little bit. I 371 00:22:29,220 --> 00:22:36,030 did get MacGyver, I dug up the old McGovern clip. Ray McGovern, 372 00:22:36,030 --> 00:22:40,620 the ex CIA guy talking about and I left the beginning of this 373 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:44,070 clip in it, it has something to do with this in an obscure way, 374 00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:47,730 but mostly to do with what the view said about Russia hacking. 375 00:22:48,090 --> 00:22:50,760 Adam Curry: No, Julian Assange hacking, not Russia, Julian 376 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,900 Assange, sorry, Julian 377 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:58,050 John C. Dvorak: Assange hack the DNC. Yeah. McGovern makes an 378 00:22:58,050 --> 00:23:01,680 interesting claim. This was done in middle of 2018. And he says, 379 00:23:02,730 --> 00:23:07,050 he says, he says, we don't hear about hacking anymore. In 2018, 380 00:23:07,050 --> 00:23:10,290 I think he was in a moment in time where that might have been 381 00:23:10,290 --> 00:23:13,710 true, but it's not true anymore. And this particular information 382 00:23:13,710 --> 00:23:16,200 that he goes on and on about which we've discussed on the 383 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,030 show a lot, which is that it couldn't have been hacked, it 384 00:23:21,030 --> 00:23:24,750 had to be a thumb drive. And that which brings in all kinds 385 00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:25,320 of other parts. 386 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,680 Adam Curry: Well, I do have some new information regarding that. 387 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,080 But let's listen to your let's listen to the clip for the 388 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,360 John C. Dvorak: government you can do then you can update us. 389 00:23:33,450 --> 00:23:36,390 Unknown: You don't hear anything about Russian hacking anymore. 390 00:23:36,570 --> 00:23:42,810 Right. That's interesting. That was a big deal. Well, suffice it 391 00:23:42,810 --> 00:23:47,520 to say that with the help of our two former Technical Directors 392 00:23:47,550 --> 00:23:52,860 of NSA, Bill Binney, and Ed Loomis, we've been able to prove 393 00:23:53,580 --> 00:24:01,620 that the celebrated, quote, hack and quote, of five July 2016, 394 00:24:02,010 --> 00:24:05,400 which was blamed on the Russians, and the Russians 395 00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:09,750 alleged to have given it to WikiLeaks. And that, of course, 396 00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:19,080 was the DNC emails that this was not a hack. By the Russians, no, 397 00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:23,280 not by Russians. It's not a hack by anybody know, how does that 398 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:29,490 work? Think of the internet as a pipe. Okay. Now we know what the 399 00:24:29,490 --> 00:24:37,350 capacity of the net was July, early July of 2016. The 400 00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:41,370 information said to have been hacked, could not have been 401 00:24:41,370 --> 00:24:47,370 hacked. Because it was downloaded onto a thumb drive at 402 00:24:47,370 --> 00:24:53,430 a speed three times what the Internet pipe would have been 403 00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:58,800 able to tolerate given its capacity. This is physics. Okay. 404 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,830 Now, what rate why's that that it was downloaded? Well, I 405 00:25:01,830 --> 00:25:05,430 happened to be exactly the same rate as the thumb drive can 406 00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:10,740 tolerate. So less thing here is that we know and have proven 407 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,900 from forensics forensics that the FBI did not do. Okay, that 408 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:18,990 the celebrated hack on the fifth of July was not by Russia by 409 00:25:18,990 --> 00:25:24,150 anybody else. It was a download, you can say it was a copy onto a 410 00:25:24,270 --> 00:25:28,770 thumb drive, because the speed at which it was copied exceeded 411 00:25:28,980 --> 00:25:31,980 the capacity of this net by three times. 412 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:34,890 Adam Curry: Here's the problem. But I do have information I want 413 00:25:34,890 --> 00:25:36,750 to talk about, here's the problem I have with this. And 414 00:25:36,750 --> 00:25:39,870 we've repeated this and I want to believe this. I'd like to 415 00:25:39,870 --> 00:25:43,410 know exactly what log they're looking at, for if it was 416 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,520 transferred through. So they have a server log somewhere, 417 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,550 which shows a transfer, is that correct? And who has this? And 418 00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:52,650 how do we get this server log in the first place? 419 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,550 John C. Dvorak: I don't know. Okay. Nobody ever seems to 420 00:25:56,550 --> 00:25:57,060 explain it. 421 00:25:57,090 --> 00:26:00,480 Adam Curry: Well, this is why I don't like it. If, if you have 422 00:26:00,690 --> 00:26:03,780 if you have access to logs that can show you the speed at which 423 00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:07,860 it was download, then you also know what port and what protocol 424 00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:10,710 was used. I never hear anyone talk about it, except for 425 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,450 because of the speed. It had to be a USB drive. Don't say thumb 426 00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:21,060 drive, that's kind of like 1998 I'll say USB drive. However, 427 00:26:21,090 --> 00:26:22,350 I've got information, 428 00:26:22,380 --> 00:26:22,890 Unknown: man, 429 00:26:23,070 --> 00:26:26,790 Adam Curry: new shit has come to light. In lacking of any 430 00:26:26,790 --> 00:26:30,720 evidence that it was an actual thumb drive, I now have pretty 431 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,990 much proof that it would have worked and could have easily 432 00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:42,570 been a powerline connector. could have been anything. And 433 00:26:42,570 --> 00:26:46,530 I'm a little tired of people repeating this. It had to be it 434 00:26:46,530 --> 00:26:50,880 had to be it had to be it without showing me the log. I 435 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,700 know what logs look like, I know where the logs come from on a 436 00:26:54,210 --> 00:26:57,690 was it a Unix server? Was it a Windows machine? Was it a 437 00:26:57,690 --> 00:26:59,940 Windows 2000 server? 438 00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:02,970 John C. Dvorak: Do you find it difficult to believe that one of 439 00:27:02,970 --> 00:27:05,430 the security blogs doesn't have all this information? 440 00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:11,190 Adam Curry: I have not seen it. Of course now we have the troll 441 00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:13,590 room posting all kinds of possible articles which I'm 442 00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:18,990 happy about. Because we need to know it's well you said you had 443 00:27:18,990 --> 00:27:21,030 new information. That's what I just said it could have been a 444 00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:22,590 powerline adapter that what you 445 00:27:22,590 --> 00:27:24,720 John C. Dvorak: are just throwing it okay. That's not new 446 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,960 information. That's supposition. Yes, of course it is. And of 447 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,360 course, you brought the power line thing and because you 448 00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:32,880 because this is a theme 449 00:27:32,910 --> 00:27:35,460 Adam Curry: when you need to explain my jokes. It's already 450 00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:36,030 bad. 451 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,880 John C. Dvorak: Sorry. I'm thinking what is he got? What is 452 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,570 where's he going with this? And then it's just a joke ridiculing 453 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:52,770 the you powerline technology you by the way, I mean, I never 454 00:27:52,770 --> 00:27:56,160 thought about it. But if you think about having a power line 455 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,660 connection, 456 00:27:57,780 --> 00:28:00,000 Adam Curry: oh, there's all kinds of possibilities. You 457 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,110 just, all you have to do is just drop one in somewhere. Or you 458 00:28:04,110 --> 00:28:06,420 have to press two buttons at the same time to pair them. 459 00:28:08,340 --> 00:28:10,050 John C. Dvorak: No, you don't. It's not at the same time yet. 460 00:28:10,050 --> 00:28:13,140 They have to be near each other. You push one button and it 461 00:28:13,170 --> 00:28:15,150 blinks and then you push the other button and then you're 462 00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:17,700 there pair you have to be you have to push some buttons, 463 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,830 Adam Curry: you have to know you have to have access to both of 464 00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:24,330 them within the same timeframe. Yes, okay. So it's not a great 465 00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:25,290 way anyway. 466 00:28:27,930 --> 00:28:29,850 John C. Dvorak: That's not true. Here's the way it would work. 467 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,960 You take you have your your master and your slave in there. 468 00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:36,600 You're sitting in the office and you put them into plugs and you 469 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,720 pair him and then you take the slave and then you stick it over 470 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,030 someplace else. Now you can put it anywhere you want. 471 00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:45,060 Adam Curry: Okay, it doesn't send out a blip through the 472 00:28:45,090 --> 00:28:47,670 through the pot. Why am I even asking you this? I don't want to 473 00:28:47,670 --> 00:28:52,050 know anymore. It's fine. It was a it was a thumb drive. 474 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,590 John C. Dvorak: I'm going with the Power Line ID how 475 00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:58,080 Adam Curry: do people get these transfer times I see it in the 476 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,770 troll room. Hey, there was no log transfer time is truth. What 477 00:29:01,770 --> 00:29:04,740 do you get transferred time from just magic appeared out of the 478 00:29:04,740 --> 00:29:12,030 sky. I'm sorry, I'm not I'm not buying it anymore. Until someone 479 00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:14,880 can show me where this information comes from. And this 480 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,180 is this is the Binney group. So I hold them in pretty high 481 00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:20,730 regard. They should do more than just say 482 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,420 John C. Dvorak: I will look into it. Okay. 483 00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:29,070 Adam Curry: You have a second clip from McGovern. 484 00:29:29,730 --> 00:29:32,460 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is just as I don't even know what 485 00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:38,790 this clip is. But it's I put it here for I got three clips 486 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:42,660 apparently. Plate McGovern. No, I got to your right play this 487 00:29:42,660 --> 00:29:44,190 second clip. Sorry, this motive 488 00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:47,220 Unknown: and Scott information. Bill Binney is still working on 489 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:52,290 this. That shows that Guccifer 2.0, who is said to be working 490 00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:55,530 for the Russians are very much involved in this. That it's a 491 00:29:55,530 --> 00:30:01,020 fraud. That everything is he's been saying it is demonstrably 492 00:30:01,230 --> 00:30:05,340 suspect because of various physical principles. Now, why is 493 00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:10,950 that? Why is that of importance? Well, let me just tell you that 494 00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:15,540 we have a new nuclear posture statement revealed on Friday. 495 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:23,700 And the the really new aspect of this says that we can, we can go 496 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:29,010 to war with nuclear weapons or these small nuclear weapons on 497 00:30:29,010 --> 00:30:35,610 the on the occasion of any kind of enemy Act, including cyber 498 00:30:35,610 --> 00:30:41,880 attack. Whoa. So 80% of the American people, according to my 499 00:30:41,910 --> 00:30:46,680 informal poll, including my family, believe that everybody 500 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,520 knows the Russians hacked into our election. Everybody knows 501 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,340 that just like everybody knew that their weapons of mass 502 00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:57,990 destruction in Iraq. It's not true that they did. It's 503 00:30:57,990 --> 00:31:02,340 demonstrably untrue. But, you know, the next time this comes 504 00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:06,360 around next time, there's a cyber attack by the Russians or 505 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,920 anybody else, so called, this was still on the record. Well, 506 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,620 they hacked into our election, they tried to undermine a 507 00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:16,680 democracy in 2016. And they're doing it again. 508 00:31:17,730 --> 00:31:22,140 Adam Curry: Yeah, and this is anything. McGovern says anything 509 00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:26,130 we say, once the information is out there, and I'm really I'm 510 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,280 demure and disappointed and somewhat depressed by the view 511 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,870 clips. That is now what people will believe Julian Assange 512 00:31:33,930 --> 00:31:38,370 hacked into our elections, hacked into the Hillary Clinton 513 00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:40,830 just into Clinton don't have to say anything, just hack into 514 00:31:40,830 --> 00:31:45,660 Clinton and published everything that's the state no one else 515 00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:47,850 will give a shit no one else will remember anything. There's 516 00:31:47,850 --> 00:31:50,520 no more truth to be had. It's over and done with and Assange 517 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,060 will never stand trial. Dead Man Walking sorry. They're gonna 518 00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:56,610 kill him. They got it. The message is out. They got 519 00:31:56,610 --> 00:31:59,940 everything they need in place often continue with WikiLeaks. 520 00:31:59,970 --> 00:32:06,690 Great, great co OPT. Well, that's what you do. 521 00:32:08,610 --> 00:32:12,660 John C. Dvorak: You'd go up it and it's been done. I don't know 522 00:32:12,660 --> 00:32:17,550 how they're going to deal with the size of if he does get 523 00:32:17,550 --> 00:32:18,150 killed. 524 00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:20,520 Adam Curry: an urn is not that big. I mean, you can kind of put 525 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,720 it anywhere. But if 526 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,880 John C. Dvorak: you've got the people at they you going off 527 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,980 like they did with this unbelievable bullcrap. Yeah. 528 00:32:32,190 --> 00:32:36,990 Yeah. Nobody will care. To be a lot of good riddance or all 529 00:32:36,990 --> 00:32:39,870 this. I mean that the other thing I don't I didn't bitch 530 00:32:39,870 --> 00:32:43,860 about so much in the last show. But I continually bitch about is 531 00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:48,330 the SEC debt. Assange isn't an American, but yet they call him 532 00:32:48,330 --> 00:32:48,990 a traitor. 533 00:32:49,470 --> 00:32:52,170 Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, did they call him that on the view? I 534 00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:53,340 didn't hear that the T word. 535 00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:57,480 John C. Dvorak: Come on. No, she just wanted to rot in hell. But 536 00:32:57,750 --> 00:33:00,180 they didn't come down to you. But they could just if they did, 537 00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:03,000 it wouldn't it would have fit right in. Right. But others have 538 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,240 I mean, a lot of our senators, a lot of Republican senators have 539 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:11,910 called him a traitor. I think even Trump may have I'm not 540 00:33:11,910 --> 00:33:16,440 sure. But he's been called a traitor, on and on and on. And 541 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,190 it's just beyond me, because how can you be a traitor? If you're 542 00:33:20,190 --> 00:33:21,840 not even a citizen? No. 543 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,330 Adam Curry: You can be an enemy of the state. Well, that's yeah, 544 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,110 that's about it. 545 00:33:29,610 --> 00:33:31,410 John C. Dvorak: A lot of people can be enemy of the state. 546 00:33:32,670 --> 00:33:34,590 Adam Curry: I'd like to talk for a moment about something. I 547 00:33:34,590 --> 00:33:37,230 think it happened on show day. I believe it happened on Thursday. 548 00:33:38,490 --> 00:33:45,240 The President threatened Mexico with 5% tariffs on all goods 549 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:51,090 from Mexico as of June 10, if they don't slow down the wave of 550 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:56,760 people seeking entry into the United States without proper 551 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:01,950 paperwork to my new term for illegal. And I have to say two 552 00:34:01,980 --> 00:34:05,580 well, two things first, I think it's a brilliant strategy. This 553 00:34:05,580 --> 00:34:09,060 makes makes so much sense. I think Mexico responded quite 554 00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:14,250 quickly. But also, and I haven't heard anyone mentioned this. Not 555 00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:18,870 even on Fox where I expected it to pop up. This will be the way 556 00:34:18,870 --> 00:34:24,750 he turns around and says it you go and Mexico's paying for the 557 00:34:24,750 --> 00:34:30,180 wall. No one has said this yet. It's so it's so obvious to me. 558 00:34:30,540 --> 00:34:34,110 Like oh, what is it $300 billion a year. 559 00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:37,560 John C. Dvorak: So you get jack it up to you? Yeah, 560 00:34:37,650 --> 00:34:41,490 Adam Curry: every month 5% every month? Yeah, it's fantastic. 561 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,990 There'll be they'll be paying for the wall. I mean, I don't 562 00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:48,030 know how he's gonna turn around and sell it but you know he's 563 00:34:48,030 --> 00:34:50,790 gonna He's no he's going to have to say that this perfect. 564 00:34:51,660 --> 00:34:54,060 John C. Dvorak: But it'd be stunning if he doesn't did you 565 00:34:54,060 --> 00:34:54,300 get 566 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,640 Adam Curry: was it now? I guess you couldn't talk about this 567 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,430 with Horowitz since that happened after Tuesday's show, I 568 00:34:59,430 --> 00:35:01,440 guess or did it Don't don't remember. 569 00:35:02,130 --> 00:35:06,090 John C. Dvorak: No, it was no. exactly it was that after the 570 00:35:06,090 --> 00:35:06,630 show. So 571 00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:08,670 Adam Curry: what do you think about this about the about the 572 00:35:08,670 --> 00:35:09,210 tariffs? 573 00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:16,650 John C. Dvorak: Well, I hadn't really given it a lot of thought 574 00:35:16,650 --> 00:35:20,460 I didn't think it was a bad idea if it works, because all the the 575 00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:23,250 idea is that you're going to ding them until they put their 576 00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:28,110 foot down. And if you remember, if you remember, let's see, 577 00:35:28,110 --> 00:35:30,510 probably during the Obama administration, we this was 578 00:35:30,510 --> 00:35:33,060 discussed, because it was discussed a lot by the right 579 00:35:33,060 --> 00:35:37,560 wingers. Oh, no, as I thought it was, I don't know what side it 580 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,960 would political side discusses, but you will, you'll remember 581 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,760 she was I bring it up. Mexico, supposedly. So what you know, 582 00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:48,690 we're dealing so harshly with the Mexicans or little harshly 583 00:35:48,690 --> 00:35:51,810 with the Mexicans. And everyone's saying, the counter 584 00:35:51,810 --> 00:35:54,360 was You're being too harsh with these Mexicans as they're coming 585 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,280 over the border. Well, Mexico, on their southern border, 586 00:35:59,340 --> 00:36:03,090 anybody comes over, they beat the crap out of him, send them 587 00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:06,330 back. They're very harsh. They grab them and they deport them, 588 00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:09,120 they do not let anyone come up to southern border, and they 589 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,840 made a big stink about it all. This was a big point of 590 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:20,100 discussion, probably in 2014 2012, maybe. And it kept 591 00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:24,150 going on what happened to that policy, or the Mexicans all of a 592 00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:27,210 sudden are saying, Well, were you were you coming over? We're 593 00:36:27,210 --> 00:36:29,160 gonna beat the crap out of you if you're gonna stay here and 594 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,010 this and No, no, we're going to the United States. Okay. Just 595 00:36:32,670 --> 00:36:35,040 take this. Off the coast, I 596 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,030 Adam Curry: presume once the Soros dollars came through, like 597 00:36:39,690 --> 00:36:44,460 a friend of George, let him get a credit card, a credit card, 598 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:48,840 Visa Debit Card friend to George. Yeah, off you go. No 599 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,350 problem. 600 00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:52,890 John C. Dvorak: So with that in mind, you'd think that something 601 00:36:52,890 --> 00:36:55,320 that the Mexicans obviously have a little more control over the 602 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,550 situation. And it is Mexico, the way it's shaped is kind of, you 603 00:36:59,550 --> 00:37:03,060 know, like a funnel. And so it's not that easy. You know, you 604 00:37:03,090 --> 00:37:06,120 just, you don't have a big border like we do with the 605 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,170 United States. You have a very small border down the south. And 606 00:37:10,170 --> 00:37:13,170 it's very easy to control and that's all I think I think the 607 00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:14,970 Mexicans can do it if they want you because they've done it 608 00:37:14,970 --> 00:37:15,600 before. 609 00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:19,710 Adam Curry: Well, it's it seemed that that hours after this, this 610 00:37:19,710 --> 00:37:23,760 threat went out then the Mexican say, Whoa, let's send some 611 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,800 people over Friday. Let's sit down and have a little chat we 612 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,600 can work something out. And of course, we see all kinds of 613 00:37:31,050 --> 00:37:33,960 people gearing up to get the courts and and see legal and you 614 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:39,270 can't do it. He has no power. And I am so done with all of 615 00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:42,480 this. I'm looking at other news around the world. Everything 616 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:48,060 here is is a stupid sideshow of outrage and people are addicted 617 00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:54,690 to emotion. It's sad. Yeah, it's very sad. It's and it's not 618 00:37:54,690 --> 00:37:56,610 funny. Isn't There's nothing interesting. 619 00:37:57,690 --> 00:38:00,570 John C. Dvorak: Exciting. While I do it, there's funny moments. 620 00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:05,310 For example, for today, I've got to Trump genius I saw I think is 621 00:38:05,310 --> 00:38:06,510 really a funny moment. 622 00:38:06,690 --> 00:38:09,000 Adam Curry: Oh, is this something that maybe I can use 623 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,100 for indiv? Show? Let's see. I'm an extremely stable genius. And 624 00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:15,240 it's not a new one? 625 00:38:16,020 --> 00:38:17,400 John C. Dvorak: No, of course it's not. I bet I've been 626 00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:21,990 itching to get it. Well, we can talk about 627 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,100 Adam Curry: No, let me grab the wheel here. Let's talk about 628 00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:29,100 some of our 2020 candidates just to get it out of the way. And 629 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:31,200 then we have a lot of other things to talk about. Yeah, 630 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,930 there has been some there's been some new information. We're 631 00:38:33,930 --> 00:38:37,800 learning things about people. First of all, yes. 632 00:38:38,370 --> 00:38:41,640 John C. Dvorak: i Okay. I have some news that I haven't put it 633 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,190 on the on the page yet, but I have some new thoughts on this. 634 00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:49,920 And I you should yeah. Okay. Tell me what you got. Okay. 635 00:38:51,420 --> 00:38:53,850 Adam Curry: Well, I'd say the number two candidate is Hillary 636 00:38:53,850 --> 00:38:57,510 Clinton, we still think she will. According to the cosmic 637 00:38:57,510 --> 00:39:00,570 weenie, she will reenter and she'll fly right in, 638 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,880 John C. Dvorak: and no evidence is she won't. 639 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,370 Adam Curry: And, of course, this came across 640 00:39:05,370 --> 00:39:08,250 Unknown: our desk. So get this folks Hillary Clinton is set to 641 00:39:08,250 --> 00:39:13,350 serve as a keynote speaker at the 2019 Cyber Defense summit. 642 00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:17,220 The cybersecurity company fire i tweeting this flyer out and say 643 00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:20,490 the event is designed to inform executives about how to, quote, 644 00:39:20,490 --> 00:39:24,840 mitigate, detect and respond to cyber attacks. But is the 645 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,650 political figure who really came to define mismanagement of 646 00:39:28,650 --> 00:39:33,300 cybersecurity the right person to keynote a conference on cyber 647 00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:34,470 security bones Yeah, 648 00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:37,470 Adam Curry: I'd say she's the perfect one to keynote that and 649 00:39:37,470 --> 00:39:41,730 it's interesting that it's fire i since they were deep they've 650 00:39:41,730 --> 00:39:45,630 always dealt with CrowdStrike being being I think yeah, and 651 00:39:45,630 --> 00:39:49,230 fire our fire I really the pew pew guys, are they the ones with 652 00:39:49,230 --> 00:39:50,430 the with the map view? 653 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,620 John C. Dvorak: I don't know I can't keep track of these 654 00:39:52,620 --> 00:39:53,490 boneheads leave 655 00:39:53,490 --> 00:39:56,190 Adam Curry: so the troll room knows the troll room knows Is it 656 00:39:56,190 --> 00:40:01,770 is it the fire guys who have the the Map View I think it is. 657 00:40:01,830 --> 00:40:07,110 Yeah. Yes. We hear you with your pew pew. Now that was North 658 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,980 Shore it is if you're the Crips. Let's see I do have the pew pew 659 00:40:10,980 --> 00:40:17,970 here. There we go. I think that'll be a big hit for her. 660 00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:21,900 I'm sure she's getting a lot of money for it. And I think people 661 00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:24,810 will enjoy that she'll have some funny one liners. It'll be a 662 00:40:24,810 --> 00:40:25,740 pretty good show. 663 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,110 John C. Dvorak: I wonder how much he's getting? This is 664 00:40:28,110 --> 00:40:31,560 really. I'm completely I'd love to find out. 665 00:40:31,590 --> 00:40:35,160 Adam Curry: Oh, you got to have a good payday if you're going to 666 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,580 do something like this. I mean, it's it's self deprecating, 667 00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:42,690 which is funny. That it's totally getting the awareness. I 668 00:40:42,690 --> 00:40:43,050 mean, it's, 669 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,480 John C. Dvorak: she'll play it to she'll play the self. Yeah, 670 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,190 getting part. Yeah. So you got 671 00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:49,110 Adam Curry: to get a payday for that. It's gotta be good. These 672 00:40:49,110 --> 00:40:54,060 guys. Are they public? Not fire. I think fire is public. 673 00:40:55,170 --> 00:40:57,180 John C. Dvorak: Well, talking about candidates, there's 674 00:40:57,180 --> 00:40:58,890 something I was brought up on. 675 00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:02,940 Adam Curry: Yes, news, public company. So give them give her 676 00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:05,370 some stock. Give her some options. It's beautiful. 677 00:41:05,550 --> 00:41:08,130 John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that would work. But give me some 678 00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:12,330 stock. Okay. That's how they get rich in Silicon Valley. 679 00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:13,860 Adam Curry: Yes, stock options. 680 00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:18,540 John C. Dvorak: So does. It was kind of brought up on the news 681 00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:21,690 hour. And when they brought it up, I didn't think too much 682 00:41:21,690 --> 00:41:25,050 about I do have a clip, which talks about one aspect of we'll 683 00:41:25,050 --> 00:41:28,470 play that. But let me just tell you what the theory is. There's 684 00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:32,100 a bunch of Democrats. And David Brooks himself says, I don't 685 00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:36,420 know why these people are even running. Because it's the I 686 00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:39,180 don't know what to think. And this is crazy. But there's a 687 00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:41,760 bunch of Democrats and no one has noticed this. I tried to 688 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,010 talk about a little bit but as you hear from the clip that I'm 689 00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:48,090 gonna play, it doesn't go anywhere. But there are certain 690 00:41:48,090 --> 00:41:50,940 candidates they are single issue. This is very old 691 00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:54,420 fashioned type of politics. Single Issue candidates. 692 00:41:55,050 --> 00:42:00,750 Gillibrand is for women's rights and pro abortion. That's it. 693 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,990 Eric Swalwell from California guns, gun control, gun control 694 00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:11,610 and more gun control. Inslee, the bonehead governor from 695 00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:16,620 Washington State climate change, and only climate change. He's 696 00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:19,650 running on a climate change platform. I don't know that I 697 00:42:19,650 --> 00:42:23,730 can isolate more of these. Well, now I'm Yes. 698 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,390 Adam Curry: What was gonna say is that I can answer the 699 00:42:27,390 --> 00:42:29,550 question why these people are running, they're not running 700 00:42:29,550 --> 00:42:32,340 because they believe they have any chance they're running to 701 00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:35,880 raise their profile. So they are preparing for the next step. It 702 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,890 could be a Senate Senate seat could be 703 00:42:37,919 --> 00:42:40,799 John C. Dvorak: No, I totally agree with that. And I think 704 00:42:40,829 --> 00:42:46,649 even I mentioned and maybe in that new and cosmic weenie piece 705 00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:52,349 that Tulsi Gabbard, I think is just after that idiot, senator 706 00:42:52,349 --> 00:42:54,389 from Hawaii, Mazie, whatever her name is 707 00:42:54,899 --> 00:42:57,359 Adam Curry: Mazie Hirono. Yeah, Mazie Hirono. 708 00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:02,430 John C. Dvorak: She's hopeless. But I think the single issue 709 00:43:02,430 --> 00:43:05,280 thinks they it's not as though there's any crossover, which 710 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,210 makes me wonder if they're test marketing, the issue for ideas. 711 00:43:09,690 --> 00:43:12,900 Okay, run these different candidates out there. And you 712 00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:15,900 see which one gets traction with whatever issue they're running 713 00:43:16,050 --> 00:43:19,440 on. And then you incorporate that issue into the platform. 714 00:43:19,530 --> 00:43:21,690 And none of these candidates, of course, have a chance. And I 715 00:43:21,690 --> 00:43:24,510 think that's pretty obvious. When they talked about done. 716 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:30,300 News Hour. They talked about Gillibrand a bit, just to hear 717 00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:33,540 play. This clip does MARK SHIELDS on abortion and 718 00:43:33,540 --> 00:43:34,800 Gillibrand. And now 719 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,260 Unknown: we turn to the analysis of Shields and Brooks, that is 720 00:43:37,260 --> 00:43:39,750 syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times 721 00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:43,770 columnist David Brooks. Hello to both of you. So we are trying to 722 00:43:43,770 --> 00:43:46,200 work our way through a conversation with each one of 723 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,310 these candidates. Mark there now, as we said, 23 of them. We 724 00:43:50,310 --> 00:43:53,640 talked to Eric Swalwell. Tonight, Kirsten Gillibrand last 725 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,850 night. I'm not gonna say they're one issue candidates, but they 726 00:43:56,850 --> 00:44:00,150 are in his case, you heard him talk about gun control. Here's 727 00:44:00,150 --> 00:44:03,510 Angela Bran emphasizing women's issues. What are you hearing 728 00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:07,350 from them? Is? Is it smart for them to seize on one issue or 729 00:44:07,350 --> 00:44:07,680 not? 730 00:44:07,799 --> 00:44:12,419 Well, we'll find out. Whether it is it just strikes me that 731 00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:20,309 abortion as an issue has been where Kristin Gillibrand is 732 00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:25,409 probably most prominently identified is an issue where 733 00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:33,539 those who seek it's hard to it's hard to imagine it and spit it 734 00:44:33,539 --> 00:44:40,199 out, man. I just say the, the uneasy consensus. I mean, it and 735 00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:44,849 that's this, and that, you know, to me, if you start to it just 736 00:44:44,879 --> 00:44:47,999 did it change that which I think Republicans are finding right 737 00:44:47,999 --> 00:44:51,569 now when you've got it. I think it tells you something about the 738 00:44:51,569 --> 00:44:53,969 politics. It's, 739 00:44:54,660 --> 00:44:56,940 John C. Dvorak: I mean, it was so that summarized it. Come on, 740 00:44:56,940 --> 00:44:57,060 you 741 00:44:57,060 --> 00:45:01,710 Adam Curry: edited that The guy does not sound like that he's 742 00:45:01,710 --> 00:45:07,380 bad but he's not that bad. Anyway thank you brings it right 743 00:45:07,380 --> 00:45:11,580 will not have this this this this fake fake news these deep 744 00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:16,110 fakes taking place without without you coming clean 745 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,800 John C. Dvorak: well, I will say that I I trimmed it for to make 746 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:23,880 it more concise. 747 00:45:25,740 --> 00:45:26,250 Unknown: Okay 748 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,800 John C. Dvorak: I did I went out of my way to do it specifically 749 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,580 better job. So the ear can't won't 750 00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:39,870 Adam Curry: hear ya know it was undetectable. John, I don't I 751 00:45:39,870 --> 00:45:45,090 don't know how you did it. Alright. Kamala Harris is not a 752 00:45:45,090 --> 00:45:50,460 single issue. Candidate. She is a no issue candidate. She here's 753 00:45:50,460 --> 00:45:54,180 what she says. You just bring up an issue to me, John, any issue. 754 00:45:55,650 --> 00:45:58,110 John C. Dvorak: So what is your take on gun control? 755 00:45:58,140 --> 00:46:03,390 Adam Curry: I think gun control in this country is something we 756 00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:06,930 ought to have a conversation about. Try me again. 757 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,790 John C. Dvorak: What do you think about abortion? 758 00:46:08,820 --> 00:46:13,200 Adam Curry: Yes, we need to have a comprehensive conversation 759 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:16,380 about women's reproductive rights. 760 00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:19,860 John C. Dvorak: And you don't think that this is another one 761 00:46:19,860 --> 00:46:23,190 of the test marketing strategies that no I know, issue candidate? 762 00:46:23,220 --> 00:46:25,290 Adam Curry: No, I think she's sitting there waiting for the 763 00:46:25,290 --> 00:46:28,260 other jump folks to come in with their reports and like, well, 764 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,650 and this didn't work really well. Kamla I'm trying this one. 765 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,280 But I don't know how serious she's being taken as a 766 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:40,770 candidate. She was on stage at a was the move on conference all 767 00:46:40,770 --> 00:46:45,690 of a sudden. So man Bong pops up on stage, grabs her mic, 768 00:46:46,050 --> 00:46:48,480 John C. Dvorak: said something. You got a mic and they cut him 769 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,650 off. Well, he talks you can 770 00:46:49,650 --> 00:47:03,930 Adam Curry: hear him a little bit here much bigger idea. 771 00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:07,470 Unknown: Thank you so much, sir, for your big idea. 772 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,780 Adam Curry: So there's there's 15. So I'm gonna let it run for 773 00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:13,860 a second. There's 15 seconds between this man bond popping up 774 00:47:13,860 --> 00:47:20,820 on stage Camela gets up walks away slowly. And after 15 775 00:47:20,820 --> 00:47:25,020 seconds, some kind of security guard jumps the guy in from 776 00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:28,770 behind, you know, pushes him away? Well, how serious can you 777 00:47:28,770 --> 00:47:33,390 take this candidate? If she has zero security, any douchebag can 778 00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:36,210 pop up and like, hey, here we go. I'm just grabbing the mic 779 00:47:36,210 --> 00:47:37,980 and right in your face. Nothing happened. I 780 00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:40,260 Unknown: want to make sure that we are 781 00:47:40,980 --> 00:47:44,220 Adam Curry: but also what kind of a leader is Kamala Harris? I 782 00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:47,370 mean, she's gone now she's off the stage. And this is going on. 783 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,810 Unknown: Okay, it's okay, folks. It's okay. People have their own 784 00:47:51,810 --> 00:47:54,630 big ideas. They have their own big ideas. 785 00:47:54,660 --> 00:47:56,940 Adam Curry: So she could have easily come back. The guy is off 786 00:47:56,940 --> 00:48:00,360 the stage. To our folks that have come here to speak to you 787 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,720 didn't have to leave it all. She was never in any real danger 788 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:13,920 after they got Camela they have to chant to bring her back. This 789 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,480 would be the leader of the free world in our country. A pussy. 790 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,560 John C. Dvorak: No, you know, this is a Genex. Pick. 791 00:48:23,730 --> 00:48:29,040 Adam Curry: Well, then he's picking a pussy. She's She's no, 792 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,630 she's a coward. She's a coward. She didn't really even want to 793 00:48:33,630 --> 00:48:36,030 come back on stage. Even though this guy had been gone for a 794 00:48:36,030 --> 00:48:40,740 minute. Will I remember that optics in my in my view, bad 795 00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:45,120 optics for someone who wants to be president and leader. You can 796 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,280 step back for a second that maybe even say something 797 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,220 addressed to she was she was gone. She was she was in the 798 00:48:50,220 --> 00:48:50,880 limo. 799 00:48:53,490 --> 00:48:57,720 John C. Dvorak: I remember in the years past when Jean 800 00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:02,580 McCarthy was running for president, and he showed up at 801 00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:06,870 the Berkeley campus. And he's just so he was just like, showed 802 00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:10,770 up and he was walking around with no security really and some 803 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,550 maniac just like this guy is only a older version or a 804 00:49:14,550 --> 00:49:17,160 different version is a hippie version as opposed to demand 805 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,520 button type. Who's creepy looking guy by the way, they 806 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,710 start yelling at him and McCarthy. He gave as good as he 807 00:49:25,710 --> 00:49:29,460 got. He just just stood there stood his ground and started 808 00:49:29,490 --> 00:49:32,280 jacking with the guy and surely you're wrong about this or wrong 809 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,580 about that? Sure. He you know, he was I was very impressed by 810 00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:41,760 this you know, yes, skulking off you know, in fear is not the way 811 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,240 to do it. 812 00:49:42,270 --> 00:49:45,030 Adam Curry: You kind of have to see the video to just see that, 813 00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:47,550 you know, she sits there. The guy comes right to Jack's the 814 00:49:47,550 --> 00:49:51,540 mic out of her hand. She's like, Oh, and then now the guys 815 00:49:51,570 --> 00:49:55,050 yapping he's walking and then you just see her go Tip two 816 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,180 through the two loops popular and 817 00:49:57,180 --> 00:49:59,580 John C. Dvorak: the thing is she had this she always kept that 818 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:02,460 kind of should eat and grin that she always has. Yes, this one 819 00:50:04,020 --> 00:50:05,820 Adam Curry: should have a conversation about that. I 820 00:50:05,820 --> 00:50:06,210 think, 821 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,230 John C. Dvorak: just keep the smile on my face as I move out 822 00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:11,100 of the way, let's 823 00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:14,190 Adam Curry: have a conversation about that man barn. And then we 824 00:50:14,190 --> 00:50:20,550 had Elizabeth Warren. She went on the Breakfast Club, which is 825 00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:24,510 power 105 in New York, who apparently have no commercials, 826 00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:29,490 I don't make any money. But they interviewed her for 45, almost 827 00:50:29,490 --> 00:50:33,360 45 minutes, not a single commercial break, which is for a 828 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,920 morning show is pretty good. But it also, it really gave time for 829 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,190 us to get to know the candidates. And they are 830 00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:44,220 brutally honest, you probably heard little snippets of this, I 831 00:50:44,220 --> 00:50:48,360 figured it's no agenda. Why don't we play the entire piece 832 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:55,380 in context, where they ask her specifically about her mistake 833 00:50:55,650 --> 00:51:00,420 of thinking she was of Native American heritage. And so I want 834 00:51:00,420 --> 00:51:00,660 to clear 835 00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:03,450 Unknown: up some stuff because there's a lot of criticism that 836 00:51:03,450 --> 00:51:06,780 said about you, so to speak on these things. The Native 837 00:51:06,780 --> 00:51:10,200 American, do you regret taking the DNA test? Oh, 838 00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:12,780 I can't go back. But you 839 00:51:12,780 --> 00:51:14,550 know, you gotta explain to a lot of people that don't know, now 840 00:51:14,550 --> 00:51:17,310 you came out and said that you had Native American and long 841 00:51:17,310 --> 00:51:20,010 ago, and you found out that you weren't, and people were very 842 00:51:20,010 --> 00:51:21,930 upset about this. And for the people who don't know, now a lot 843 00:51:21,930 --> 00:51:24,630 of people don't have, because we were putting, as well. So 844 00:51:24,660 --> 00:51:27,060 Adam Curry: notice that she could go well notice that she's 845 00:51:27,060 --> 00:51:30,210 also fighting the same issue that we were talking about with, 846 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:33,630 you know, what, what the public believes these guys, and she's 847 00:51:33,630 --> 00:51:37,140 not answering any questions, obviously, you know, so are you 848 00:51:37,170 --> 00:51:40,860 are you do you regret taking the DNA test? She didn't say no. Now 849 00:51:40,860 --> 00:51:46,320 she's like, Yeah, you claimed falsely, you're driving in 850 00:51:46,530 --> 00:51:52,230 America no long ago, she in the people's mind, she's a liar. And 851 00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:54,000 I don't think she can break through it. 852 00:51:54,029 --> 00:51:57,629 Unknown: So I grew up in Oklahoma, I learned about my 853 00:51:57,629 --> 00:52:00,179 family the same way most people learn about their family from a 854 00:52:00,179 --> 00:52:05,249 mama and my daddy, and some my uncle's Cornflakes box. And it's 855 00:52:05,249 --> 00:52:09,689 what I believe. But I'm not a person of color. I'm not a 856 00:52:09,689 --> 00:52:16,769 citizen of a tribe. And I shouldn't have done it. I can't 857 00:52:16,769 --> 00:52:22,919 go back. You know what I should. But what I, what I can do is try 858 00:52:22,919 --> 00:52:27,119 to be a good partner. And that's what I do every day. 859 00:52:27,150 --> 00:52:28,860 How long did you all on it? Because there was some report 860 00:52:28,860 --> 00:52:30,810 that said, You are a Native American on your Texas bar 861 00:52:30,810 --> 00:52:32,640 license, and that you said you are a Native American awesome 862 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,310 documents when you were a professor at Harvard? Like why 863 00:52:35,310 --> 00:52:35,760 do you do that? 864 00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:40,380 So it's what I believe. You know, that's like I said, it's 865 00:52:40,380 --> 00:52:41,880 what I learned from my family, 866 00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:45,510 when you find out when did you find out you weren't? Well, no, 867 00:52:45,540 --> 00:52:51,120 it's I'm not a person of color. I'm not a citizen of a tribe. 868 00:52:51,660 --> 00:52:56,310 And tribal citizenship is an important distinction. And not 869 00:52:56,310 --> 00:52:57,930 something I am. So 870 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,500 were there any benefits to that? No. 871 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,610 Bye. Boston Globe did a full investigation it ever affected. 872 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,610 Nothing about my family ever affected any job I ever got. 873 00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,640 Didn't get a discount in college. It's kind of like the 874 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,420 original Rachel, those are a little bit. White woman 875 00:53:15,420 --> 00:53:16,500 pretending to be black. 876 00:53:17,310 --> 00:53:21,810 This is what I learned from my family. I know, 877 00:53:23,070 --> 00:53:25,140 John C. Dvorak: she needs a crisis management. 878 00:53:25,470 --> 00:53:27,300 Adam Curry: She's a better better combat nurse he 879 00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:30,570 John C. Dvorak: needs Yeah, I can give some ideas of what she 880 00:53:30,570 --> 00:53:36,360 should have done. Okay. First of all, she's right off the bat. 881 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,940 She could have killed this whole thing. And the Rachel Rachel 882 00:53:38,940 --> 00:53:41,880 Dolezal thing. At the beginning, when they said you will you 883 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,450 regret taking the DNA test? She shouldn't be more aggressive and 884 00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:53,100 say, look, look, look at that. Look, I was convinced it. And 885 00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:55,680 then maybe you could do a side bar here and say, do remember 886 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,550 that there's a there's a black woman on YouTube that took her 887 00:53:59,550 --> 00:54:02,880 DNA test and says she's white. And she's very upset about this. 888 00:54:03,210 --> 00:54:07,980 I was convinced I was Native American. I have some features 889 00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:11,070 that look Native American, I was told I was Native American. And 890 00:54:11,070 --> 00:54:15,570 everybody's ridiculing me for because I'm white. So I decided 891 00:54:15,570 --> 00:54:18,540 to take the DNA test because I took the DNA test because that's 892 00:54:18,540 --> 00:54:21,420 what I thought once it proved that I wasn't Native American. I 893 00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:22,890 said, Okay, fine. I'm out of 894 00:54:22,890 --> 00:54:26,490 Adam Curry: here. Yeah. But see, the problem there is that if you 895 00:54:26,490 --> 00:54:30,120 recall, I'm actually looking forward. When she did the DNA 896 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,900 test. She had a friend of I think one of her husband's 897 00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:38,460 friends. And he is part owner of the company that did the 898 00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:41,640 analysis. And he called her on the phone and they had both 899 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,320 sides of it. Well, looks like you're definitely definitely 900 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:51,870 Pocahontas. And so she can't get away from that, that that you're 901 00:54:52,260 --> 00:54:53,730 done. I'm sorry. Because what 902 00:54:53,730 --> 00:54:55,770 John C. Dvorak: the what I described if she you're right 903 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,480 boosts actually there's two things involved. One the This 904 00:55:00,540 --> 00:55:04,860 she shouldn't. She doubled down was her problem. When the test 905 00:55:04,860 --> 00:55:07,350 came back, there was something about her maybe having some 906 00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:09,210 Peruvian or some South 907 00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:13,620 Adam Curry: South South America, South American, South American 908 00:55:13,650 --> 00:55:16,920 John C. Dvorak: Indian maybe. And so she went with that. And 909 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,620 as soon as she did that, to the Cherokee Nation are one of the 910 00:55:19,620 --> 00:55:23,850 Indian tribes a day. It's got nothing to do with nothing. And 911 00:55:23,850 --> 00:55:26,280 they brought up the thing about you're not a member of a tribe 912 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,190 and the whole thing is bogus. And so standing issues kind of 913 00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:33,870 stuck in the middle. She should have used the DNA test to escape 914 00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:37,890 from the nonsense of her being Native American right could have 915 00:55:37,890 --> 00:55:40,530 done it you know, I guess it's not true. There's some evidence 916 00:55:40,530 --> 00:55:43,680 maybe it's South America, but she didn't do that. She doubled 917 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,870 down that's the mistake she made she probably should have gotten 918 00:55:45,870 --> 00:55:50,610 it consulted early. Yeah. No, she screwed up. She's complete. 919 00:55:51,570 --> 00:55:53,940 Yeah, there was no way she's gonna get anywhere. 920 00:55:54,690 --> 00:55:56,550 Adam Curry: Gosh, I wish I knew what those clips were. 921 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,110 John C. Dvorak: Like tour 922 00:56:03,390 --> 00:56:05,460 Unknown: we believe in science that's 923 00:56:05,460 --> 00:56:08,190 Adam Curry: right. Especially that of DNA. 924 00:56:09,060 --> 00:56:11,460 John C. Dvorak: She pander juice that is the ISO for the end of 925 00:56:11,460 --> 00:56:11,790 the show 926 00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:16,530 Adam Curry: you like she she pandered quite a bit to every 927 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:23,340 every time she could turn around and say reparations or H HB CU. 928 00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:26,400 Historically Black Colleges and unit while we got to give more 929 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:33,000 money there. She's just the pander. Put then she is. She 930 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,920 talked about her trip to the border a year ago. And I found 931 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,250 that to be quite disingenuous. No doubt the border is messy. 932 00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:47,100 And yet detention facilities that it go to any jail any place 933 00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:50,460 where people are detained. It's not pretty. You see human beings 934 00:56:50,460 --> 00:56:53,490 behind bars. But there's another way you can paint that picture. 935 00:56:53,490 --> 00:56:54,690 If you're Elizabeth Warren, 936 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,660 Unknown: I went down to the border. It's been what probably 937 00:56:57,660 --> 00:57:00,630 about a year ago right now, when it first came out about 938 00:57:00,630 --> 00:57:06,450 separating mamas from their babies. And picture an Amazon 939 00:57:06,450 --> 00:57:10,290 warehouse. Only it's dirty, and it smelled bad. 940 00:57:10,590 --> 00:57:12,240 Adam Curry: Oh, wait a minute. How's that different from an 941 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:15,810 Amazon warehouse? You do it right, 942 00:57:15,839 --> 00:57:19,919 Unknown: any Amazon warehouse. Only it's dirty, and it smelled 943 00:57:19,919 --> 00:57:26,459 bad. And I walk in and on the left. It's cage after cage after 944 00:57:26,459 --> 00:57:31,919 cage cage. Not 10 feet wide, but 40 feet deep toilet back in the 945 00:57:32,189 --> 00:57:35,879 corner. And they're just jammed one after another after another 946 00:57:35,879 --> 00:57:38,699 same thing on the right only cages of women. Then you walk 947 00:57:38,699 --> 00:57:42,779 into the main space. And there are these huge freestanding 948 00:57:42,779 --> 00:57:46,769 cages out in the middle of little girls Jesus. Oh a 949 00:57:50,010 --> 00:57:53,880 Adam Curry: lot of that cages in cages in cage and the way you 950 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,200 that conjures up is images of actual cages. But of course it's 951 00:57:58,230 --> 00:58:00,540 you know it's bars it's cell 952 00:58:04,170 --> 00:58:06,630 John C. Dvorak: her pandering and then the reparations thing 953 00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:09,930 and all the rest of it these impractical ideas She's full of 954 00:58:09,930 --> 00:58:13,020 crap she's always been full of crap and so she did that hearing 955 00:58:13,020 --> 00:58:17,490 about Rachel calling on the phone to robo calls and she we 956 00:58:17,490 --> 00:58:22,020 have to put a stop to it is worse than ever. She is a do 957 00:58:22,020 --> 00:58:26,670 nothing Senator a do nothing person who just is very 958 00:58:26,670 --> 00:58:27,390 ambitious. 959 00:58:27,540 --> 00:58:30,570 Adam Curry: I have a clip here just because I see it from 2011 960 00:58:30,570 --> 00:58:33,000 It says Elizabeth Warren elitist. Shall we just have a 961 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,430 listen since it's an old clip and you never know what joy 962 00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:36,240 could bring us? 963 00:58:37,110 --> 00:58:38,520 John C. Dvorak: I'm sure it's fantastic. 964 00:58:38,580 --> 00:58:43,080 Unknown: You are causing problems. We had an agreement 965 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,630 for later hearing your staff asked us 966 00:58:45,660 --> 00:58:48,900 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's just not good. I can already tell 967 00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:52,200 there's not going to be good without knowing what it is. All 968 00:58:52,200 --> 00:59:05,730 right. Then I have Brexit Brexit Yes, well, it comes with things. 969 00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:10,830 I didn't get any clips or anything of John Cleese. But you 970 00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:14,940 know, to please clip was not that good. No, it wasn't I did 971 00:59:14,940 --> 00:59:18,720 get a good clip from Elton John, which I thought was there it 972 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:25,320 shows exactly the problem with people in this case, who are 973 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:30,090 with the establishment and and virtue signal and claim things 974 00:59:30,090 --> 00:59:34,590 but really are behaving in exactly the opposite way. But 975 00:59:34,590 --> 00:59:41,190 Elton John is in the news now. Not only because there's this 976 00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:43,860 movie out about him called Rocket Man, which is in theaters 977 00:59:43,860 --> 00:59:47,160 now. And I'm very much looking forward to that. And of course, 978 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,590 they've got the publicity machine ramped up, you know, 979 00:59:49,590 --> 00:59:52,800 well, in Russia, they're showing it they're cutting out the gay 980 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,650 scenes. Well, that's just so you don't have to pay a fine. We say 981 00:59:55,650 --> 00:59:59,670 you're cutting out the gay scenes. So don't lie about that. 982 00:59:59,790 --> 01:00:03,540 But And he's on stage. And this is what he said just the other 983 01:00:03,540 --> 01:00:03,960 night 984 01:00:08,849 --> 01:00:09,779 Unknown: the incredible 985 01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:15,180 healing power of love, compassion. Love. 986 01:00:17,850 --> 01:00:21,960 Adam Curry: Love, John. Love compassion, the healing power of 987 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,140 down love. Yeah, write it down. Because you're gonna need it in 988 01:00:25,140 --> 01:00:34,740 about 30 seconds with love and compassion in the world today, I 989 01:00:34,740 --> 01:00:48,780 agree. Let's show some love out there some love and compassion 990 01:00:51,420 --> 01:00:52,500 Unknown: love and compassion 991 01:01:05,310 --> 01:01:09,330 Adam Curry: correct me if I'm wrong, he's saying, I love and 992 01:01:09,330 --> 01:01:14,820 compassion. But I'm not a stupid imperialist English idiot who 993 01:01:14,820 --> 01:01:19,140 likes Brexit? Am I missing something? Or is he missing the 994 01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:22,380 compassion of people who feel different than he does? In this 995 01:01:22,380 --> 01:01:27,360 case? He just said 20 seconds ago, he just said 20 seconds 996 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:34,260 ago, and he comes back to it wanted this 997 01:01:34,260 --> 01:01:38,850 Unknown: done, and told people upon so I want more love in the 998 01:01:38,850 --> 01:01:39,210 world. 999 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,070 Adam Curry: More Love just like that. I'm sick of these Imperial 1000 01:01:47,070 --> 01:01:51,390 English idiots. More Love and Compassion every bother. 1001 01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:55,230 John C. Dvorak: I mean, it sounds like dinero 1002 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,780 Adam Curry: when people don't even see. I mean, did they not 1003 01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:02,010 see this themselves? It's like, Oh, man. And I know he can just 1004 01:02:02,010 --> 01:02:05,610 say I'm sick of what's happening but he's really really calling 1005 01:02:05,610 --> 01:02:09,540 out people who want to who are pro Brexit as imperialist 1006 01:02:09,540 --> 01:02:12,600 idiots. His own countrymen. 1007 01:02:13,710 --> 01:02:18,870 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's pretty. That's pretty bad. Guys 1008 01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:21,240 get a lot of money. They think they're, you know, they get 1009 01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:22,530 there's a lot of guys. 1010 01:02:22,890 --> 01:02:25,950 Adam Curry: Well, Elton John is a whole, a whole nother level. 1011 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,770 He can do whatever he wants, as far as I'm concerned. But yeah, 1012 01:02:28,770 --> 01:02:28,920 well, 1013 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,720 John C. Dvorak: he's got all this money. And he and 1014 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,080 immediately the first thing they do is they issue their own 1015 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,690 nation because they consider themselves above it all. And he 1016 01:02:36,690 --> 01:02:39,810 lives in Atlanta International people. I'm an international 1017 01:02:39,810 --> 01:02:41,820 person. I'm an international civilian. He 1018 01:02:41,820 --> 01:02:47,040 Adam Curry: lives in Atlanta. That's his main. His main houses 1019 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:47,760 in Atlanta. 1020 01:02:48,540 --> 01:02:50,850 John C. Dvorak: It's Trump to Yeah, you know. 1021 01:02:52,740 --> 01:02:54,540 Adam Curry: We should just call him Sharon from that. Yes, this 1022 01:02:54,540 --> 01:03:00,690 gay name is Sharon. Sharon. Yes. This the thing with a lot of gay 1023 01:03:00,690 --> 01:03:03,870 men. It's probably more 80s 90s thing. I don't know if it's 1024 01:03:03,870 --> 01:03:07,800 still done. Yeah. Then it's when he's hanging out with his with 1025 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:13,440 his buddies. Did I hang out with him, but AIDS Project Los 1026 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,430 Angeles, I did work for them way back in the MTV days. And that's 1027 01:03:17,430 --> 01:03:21,150 that was his his, one of his charities. And everyone just 1028 01:03:21,150 --> 01:03:24,540 like Sharon, Sharon, and he was head will whip around like 1029 01:03:24,540 --> 01:03:28,740 winter. Who Sharon, that's his name and the sun. But you have 1030 01:03:28,740 --> 01:03:30,540 to think you have to be a gay guy to be able to call them 1031 01:03:30,540 --> 01:03:33,120 that. Sharon. 1032 01:03:34,890 --> 01:03:36,750 John C. Dvorak: So there's a tidbit you won't get on any 1033 01:03:36,750 --> 01:03:37,470 other show? 1034 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,310 Adam Curry: Well, I realized that after 11 years, we probably 1035 01:03:41,310 --> 01:03:43,620 should start repeating some of our stories, because not 1036 01:03:43,620 --> 01:03:46,560 everyone has heard them. And I've definitely mentioned this 1037 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:52,020 one before. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. 1038 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,280 John C. Dvorak: It's nothing I would forget. You may have to 1039 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,650 know even after the show, I'd never heard this story before 1040 01:03:58,650 --> 01:04:04,260 maybe. I mean, it's possible but no. All right. So we want to 1041 01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:10,320 take what I got one more thing, talking about love and hate. CNN 1042 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:16,920 brings on this guy Professor Allan Lichtman. And Lichtman is 1043 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:21,300 the professor who predicted the last night he's got some list of 1044 01:04:21,510 --> 01:04:25,650 criteria. And he's predicted supposedly of Lloyds only 1045 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,490 recently known, but he supposedly as predicted last 1046 01:04:29,490 --> 01:04:32,910 night presidential elections nailed them, which means he 1047 01:04:32,910 --> 01:04:37,500 could make a lot of money if He parlayed that it seems to me. So 1048 01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:39,270 they bring him on. You think they're gonna bring him on to 1049 01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:43,620 discuss Trump as a you know, the potential candidate that he is? 1050 01:04:43,950 --> 01:04:50,190 And no, kind of but let's play Professor Allan Lichtman one but 1051 01:04:50,190 --> 01:04:53,040 Unknown: Professor Alan Lichtman has also made a name for himself 1052 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,860 by looking into the future of historian has correctly 1053 01:04:55,860 --> 01:05:00,300 predicted the last nine presidential elections. Look at 1054 01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:03,060 all the faces on your screen. He called for Ronald Reagan in 1055 01:05:03,060 --> 01:05:07,380 1984, all the way through Donald Trump in 2016, the biggest 1056 01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:10,860 political upset in modern US history. Now, Lichtman says I'll 1057 01:05:10,860 --> 01:05:14,010 be it with some caution since obviously, nothing is final yet, 1058 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,100 but the Trump will win again. But the professor also believes 1059 01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:21,210 Democrats do have a shot if they impeach him. So let's talk about 1060 01:05:21,210 --> 01:05:24,720 that Professor Alan Lichtman. Good to have you on. 1061 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,160 Good to be on. 1062 01:05:26,490 --> 01:05:31,560 So you call it nine times nine. And you say now, and I know 1063 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,720 we're still early and this is not your official prediction. 1064 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:39,270 But you think Trump is it in 2020? Unless what 1065 01:05:39,810 --> 01:05:43,560 unless the Democrats grow a spine and do their 1066 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,490 constitutional duty and move into an impeachment inquiry? And 1067 01:05:47,490 --> 01:05:51,660 I think the evidence will show ultimately and impeachment. It's 1068 01:05:51,660 --> 01:05:56,400 a false dichotomy to say Democrats have a choice between 1069 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,420 doing what is right, and what is constitutional. And what is 1070 01:06:00,450 --> 01:06:05,160 politically right. impeachment is also politically right. Right 1071 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:10,500 now, based on my system, there has to be six negative factors 1072 01:06:10,530 --> 01:06:13,890 against the party holding the White House to Trump party to 1073 01:06:13,890 --> 01:06:18,420 predict their defeat, they're down only three. But an 1074 01:06:18,450 --> 01:06:24,480 impeachment would nail down the scandal key a fourth key, it 1075 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,720 might trigger other keys like a real challenge to his 1076 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:34,020 renomination or a third party enough to defeat him. And let's 1077 01:06:34,020 --> 01:06:38,910 not forget, impeachment is not just a vote in the House. It 1078 01:06:38,910 --> 01:06:42,840 involves public hearings as part of the impeachment inquiry, and 1079 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:47,190 which everyone forgets a public trial in the Senate in which 1080 01:06:47,220 --> 01:06:51,900 house prosecutors present evidence present documents make 1081 01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:55,050 opening and closing statements. You know, Richard Nixon, before 1082 01:06:55,050 --> 01:06:59,760 all the public revelations was that 67% approval, it was the 1083 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:04,380 public revelations of his misdeeds that drove him down to 1084 01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:05,670 25%. 1085 01:07:06,270 --> 01:07:09,540 But here's the but Professor, because if you look at it the 1086 01:07:09,540 --> 01:07:12,780 other way, and you by the way, very well may be correct. But if 1087 01:07:12,780 --> 01:07:15,930 you look at the other way, if you consider that Trump is 1088 01:07:16,050 --> 01:07:21,120 daring Democrats to impeach him, right that he sees this as this 1089 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,270 potential galvanizing moment for his party, and also those 1090 01:07:24,270 --> 01:07:27,540 importantly, who who've been on the fence ahead of 2020. Might 1091 01:07:27,540 --> 01:07:32,910 that not backfire on Democrats? politically? Absolutely not. Oh, 1092 01:07:32,910 --> 01:07:35,490 really? Okay. Definitely not. 1093 01:07:35,550 --> 01:07:37,710 John C. Dvorak: And then of course, then I get So Chris, I'm 1094 01:07:37,710 --> 01:07:40,200 already disappointed. This guy's not giving us any insight 1095 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,110 whatsoever. He's just another Trump hater. They bring on CNN, 1096 01:07:43,110 --> 01:07:46,320 he goes on and on about why he should be impeached. And so he 1097 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:51,630 throws this in and it's like, you after you listen to the joy 1098 01:07:51,630 --> 01:07:54,360 Bay horror rant and the other things that we've heard on the 1099 01:07:54,360 --> 01:08:00,180 show so far, you hear this and you just go, why or even what is 1100 01:08:00,180 --> 01:08:03,660 the point of anything? If this is the way things are gonna go? 1101 01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:06,150 This is part two, it's a short, short nine seconds, 1102 01:08:06,210 --> 01:08:08,130 Unknown: all the evidence against I'm not just talking 1103 01:08:08,130 --> 01:08:11,130 about obstruction of justice, we're also talking about 1104 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,090 something Muller did not apply on possible collusion with the 1105 01:08:15,090 --> 01:08:16,950 Russians. Please. 1106 01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:23,310 John C. Dvorak: Muller did not a pine on he says collusion with 1107 01:08:23,310 --> 01:08:24,480 the Russians. And that 1108 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,059 Adam Curry: was the news media, the very station you're asked. 1109 01:08:27,389 --> 01:08:29,489 John C. Dvorak: That's what the whole report was about. 1110 01:08:31,620 --> 01:08:34,830 Adam Curry: You know, CNN has now or Turner Broadcasting, I 1111 01:08:34,830 --> 01:08:40,230 should say, subsidiary of Time Warner is now moving all 1112 01:08:40,230 --> 01:08:45,510 freelancers to a 90 day billing cycle. Yeah, that's usually not 1113 01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:46,680 a good thing. 1114 01:08:47,550 --> 01:08:49,680 John C. Dvorak: That's usually an accounting trick. Yeah. 1115 01:08:49,830 --> 01:08:56,160 Adam Curry: Yeah. When you have issues with your pay roll. It's, 1116 01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:58,530 and they're offering people Yeah, we got a special deal 1117 01:08:58,530 --> 01:09:02,520 through Citibank. They'll give you a loan in the meantime. That 1118 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,520 sounds like a groovy way to work. Well, someone else who was 1119 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,930 in the Nixon era was Tom Brokaw. He showed up on the morning 1120 01:09:09,930 --> 01:09:16,050 Joe's to really expresses displeasure at the ease at which 1121 01:09:16,050 --> 01:09:20,190 these impeachment discussions are even being held. 1122 01:09:20,220 --> 01:09:22,860 Unknown: And I've been going back over that period of time. 1123 01:09:23,130 --> 01:09:25,710 And the great, great differences, it was so much more 1124 01:09:25,710 --> 01:09:29,790 methodical than on both parties. They knew how serious this was. 1125 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,550 This was not just a oh, let's put it on the calendar for 1126 01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:35,820 Monday. And impeachment means that we remove the president 1127 01:09:35,820 --> 01:09:39,930 from office. And that's there's no more dramatic instance in the 1128 01:09:39,930 --> 01:09:42,690 American Constitution or an American political way of life 1129 01:09:42,690 --> 01:09:46,740 than doing that. So they want to add it. Both parties and the 1130 01:09:46,740 --> 01:09:51,300 most methodical, thoughtful way and so they crossed every T and 1131 01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:55,770 dotted every I. They had discussions back and forth in 1132 01:09:55,770 --> 01:09:58,980 public and privately. Now they just throw the word around like 1133 01:09:59,010 --> 01:10:01,920 oh, let's take a break and Have an impeachment. I think that 1134 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,220 that's really, really inappropriate. And I think it's 1135 01:10:05,220 --> 01:10:09,570 cheapens the process, frankly, and I don't think that advances 1136 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,290 are interested in moving this country forward at a time now, 1137 01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:16,320 when we need to be paying much more attention to what the 1138 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,460 Constitution says, what the process is, and who we are, you 1139 01:10:20,460 --> 01:10:22,860 know, we've got three branches of government, the President's 1140 01:10:22,860 --> 01:10:25,140 soul is the strongest. But if you're going to take the 1141 01:10:25,140 --> 01:10:29,370 president down, you better take him down in a way that you can 1142 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:34,170 defend that 100 years from now, based on not just the evidence, 1143 01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:36,090 but on following the rule of law. 1144 01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:40,680 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I was actually stunned by this clip, 1145 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,370 because it was on Morning, Joe, and he's a known Trump basher. 1146 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,030 Yeah, and 1147 01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:47,550 Adam Curry: he didn't really do the back shot off guard by this 1148 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,850 at the exit cut away from him kind of went after that 1149 01:10:50,850 --> 01:10:53,790 sentence. They didn't even say thanks, Tom just went to some 1150 01:10:53,790 --> 01:10:58,560 other guy who was gonna go but for our for people outside the 1151 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,140 United States, but also many people inside the United States. 1152 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,350 And the house isn't doesn't impeach. That's not really how 1153 01:11:04,350 --> 01:11:08,190 it works. They they come up with the Articles of Impeachment, and 1154 01:11:08,190 --> 01:11:10,800 then they send that to the Senate as a recommendation for 1155 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:15,570 the Senate to remove the president from office. Which 1156 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,190 seems unlikely at this point. But pantsy you know, Pelosi went 1157 01:11:20,190 --> 01:11:24,780 on to Kimmel to sell her message. And she went on for 1158 01:11:24,780 --> 01:11:27,540 quite she got a long, long cyber, she had, I think, three 1159 01:11:27,540 --> 01:11:30,570 segments to do that for 1520 minutes, 1160 01:11:30,900 --> 01:11:32,010 Unknown: to terrible. 1161 01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:36,480 John C. Dvorak: Well, she says to be entertaining, she 1162 01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:39,300 Adam Curry: said some funny things. I did pull one clip, 1163 01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:44,310 which I want to share. But she was really there to do to give 1164 01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:48,060 the message to the to the populace that it's really not 1165 01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:51,030 prudent to do this. And she doesn't look she doesn't want to 1166 01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:55,110 do it. She knows why. It's a smart thing to do. She really 1167 01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:58,350 just wants to prolong this up until the election, you know, 1168 01:11:58,350 --> 01:12:00,990 it's the same thing. We just went through this, which is, 1169 01:12:01,590 --> 01:12:05,970 which is why it's no wonder that CNN is going to net 90 billing. 1170 01:12:05,970 --> 01:12:08,400 I mean, all these guys, you can't keep pushing this on 1171 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:13,140 people. It's like the, you know, the Malaysian airplane, the wind 1172 01:12:13,140 --> 01:12:16,950 down, people get tired of it even of this, but Kim have 1173 01:12:16,980 --> 01:12:20,490 called her in. And she said some interesting things. 1174 01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:23,130 Unknown: Let me just say this, immodestly, okay, 1175 01:12:23,490 --> 01:12:26,490 Adam Curry: immodestly, so she's going to boast about herself in 1176 01:12:26,490 --> 01:12:32,760 a way I, I, it's like giving yourself the highest, almost the 1177 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,130 highest credentials in the country. It was odd. 1178 01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:38,700 Unknown: Let me just say this, immodestly, I probably have a 1179 01:12:38,700 --> 01:12:42,990 better idea as to what the President has to be held 1180 01:12:42,990 --> 01:12:46,890 accountable for, than anyone. Have you read the Muller report? 1181 01:12:46,890 --> 01:12:53,310 Yes, I have the blacked out parts? No. Oh, we're calling for 1182 01:12:53,310 --> 01:12:57,060 that. We went to they would show it to me. But I said why? I'm 1183 01:12:57,060 --> 01:12:59,220 not gonna let you show it to me unless you show it to the whole 1184 01:12:59,220 --> 01:13:01,740 country. Oh, I would want to see 1185 01:13:02,820 --> 01:13:05,820 Adam Curry: if may also see how uninformed Kimmel is he doesn't 1186 01:13:05,820 --> 01:13:09,060 even know if he's I the way he's speaking. I don't even know if 1187 01:13:09,060 --> 01:13:11,070 he's, if he knows that there is a report that has been 1188 01:13:11,070 --> 01:13:14,040 published. He's like, it's not there. Well, I'd like to see it. 1189 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:18,840 But you can read the whole thing except for five blackouts. Only 1190 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:19,710 Show it to me, 1191 01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:24,660 Unknown: the only person who knows better than I why this 1192 01:13:24,660 --> 01:13:29,400 President is not above the law. Why This president must be held 1193 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,630 accountable. The only person who knows better than I do is the 1194 01:13:33,630 --> 01:13:36,780 President of the United States. He knows. 1195 01:13:37,470 --> 01:13:41,670 Adam Curry: Wow, did Nancy she nuts. No one knows better than 1196 01:13:41,670 --> 01:13:46,710 her except the perpetrator himself. So it's Nancy's putting 1197 01:13:46,710 --> 01:13:49,890 herself right up that no one knows better. You have to go 1198 01:13:49,890 --> 01:13:53,400 through me. I know what's right for the country. I know what's 1199 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:58,380 right for the party. And I also know what's right for, for young 1200 01:13:58,380 --> 01:14:01,260 people in, in poor neighborhoods 1201 01:14:01,290 --> 01:14:02,910 Unknown: knows what his violations 1202 01:14:02,910 --> 01:14:06,030 have been. I don't think he even knows. I don't think he Well, he 1203 01:14:06,030 --> 01:14:10,350 may not care. Yeah, I think sometimes they do things and 1204 01:14:10,350 --> 01:14:13,470 they go, Oh, that's not allowed. And then they kind of go back 1205 01:14:13,470 --> 01:14:15,750 and try to figure out what it was and how they can keep it 1206 01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:16,290 quiet. 1207 01:14:16,710 --> 01:14:20,490 Yeah, what really bugs me about that? Because when you see what 1208 01:14:20,490 --> 01:14:23,280 they say, Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know it was wrong to talk 1209 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,720 to Russians about this. I didn't know. I said, Why don't how it 1210 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,590 is. How do you explain that to kids in the hood when they were 1211 01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:33,870 approached by law enforcement? And I said, Well, I didn't 1212 01:14:33,870 --> 01:14:34,380 realize that. 1213 01:14:34,590 --> 01:14:37,950 Adam Curry: Let me just get this right. Nancy is talking about 1214 01:14:37,950 --> 01:14:44,100 kids in the hood. How do you explain this to kids in the 1215 01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:47,370 hood? Well, if you could find the hood, Miss Pelosi, that 1216 01:14:47,370 --> 01:14:50,610 might be a good start. Kids in the hood, 1217 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,840 Unknown: talk to Russians about this idea. No. I said why don't 1218 01:14:54,900 --> 01:14:58,440 how does how do you explain that to kids in the hood when 1219 01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:01,530 Adam Curry: they kids in the hood? you'd like Buddhists, 1220 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,690 Unknown: they're approached by law enforcement. And I said, 1221 01:15:03,690 --> 01:15:06,000 Well, I didn't realize that I was supposed to do this or that 1222 01:15:06,060 --> 01:15:09,870 we're supposed to know. But these very wealthy 1223 01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:12,810 Adam Curry: isn't that racist? I'm sorry, I just I can't get 1224 01:15:12,810 --> 01:15:15,900 past I can't get past her saying, how do you explain this 1225 01:15:15,900 --> 01:15:22,560 to kids in the hood? I can't get past it. Isn't that racist? Is 1226 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,100 there a hood that she can she point to the hood? And maybe we 1227 01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:31,110 should do something about the hood? It bothered me. 1228 01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:34,110 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's obvious that it did bother you. 1229 01:15:34,110 --> 01:15:39,420 I mean, it's bothersome. Nancy's just like a she's just like 1230 01:15:39,450 --> 01:15:44,160 she's almost she died. I wouldn't say she pulled a I 1231 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,520 would almost want to say she pulled a Trump. But no, she 1232 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,440 pulled like Dan Quayle. 1233 01:15:49,830 --> 01:15:52,050 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, it was close to a quail, wasn't it? 1234 01:15:52,050 --> 01:15:53,550 Yes. Just kind of 1235 01:15:53,550 --> 01:15:55,290 John C. Dvorak: a gaffe of gaffes. 1236 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,620 Adam Curry: Well, there'll be no impeachment. Yeah, there'll be 1237 01:15:58,620 --> 01:16:01,110 no impeachment, just a lot of noise and a lot of wasted 1238 01:16:01,110 --> 01:16:03,960 cycles. And I think it's quite a shame because there's so much 1239 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,940 else going on in the world, which we can discuss. And we 1240 01:16:05,940 --> 01:16:09,060 shall do that. But first, allow me to thank you for your courage 1241 01:16:09,060 --> 01:16:11,070 and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the 1242 01:16:11,070 --> 01:16:15,000 Champions League John C. Devorah. Back 1243 01:16:15,810 --> 01:16:19,230 John C. Dvorak: in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry. In the 1244 01:16:19,230 --> 01:16:22,440 morning, all ships had seen feet on the ground boots in the air 1245 01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:24,930 subs in the water and all the names and nights out 1246 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,780 Adam Curry: there in the morning to our trolls in the troll room. 1247 01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:32,730 We've been trolling today some some real trolls, but also some 1248 01:16:32,730 --> 01:16:36,150 helpful trolls. No agenda stream.com I want to mention 1249 01:16:36,150 --> 01:16:39,900 something about the stream no agenda stream.com where you can 1250 01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:43,530 go you log into that page, you can get into the chat room. 1251 01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:46,650 That's where the that's where it says chat, probably but it's 1252 01:16:46,650 --> 01:16:49,710 really where the trolls are. But you can also listen to the 1253 01:16:49,710 --> 01:16:53,970 stream. And this is 24/7 and there's a lot of live shows I 1254 01:16:53,970 --> 01:16:57,870 was listening yesterday it was really cool. We went from void 1255 01:16:57,870 --> 01:17:01,950 zero who was doing all kinds of interesting music and then all 1256 01:17:01,950 --> 01:17:05,820 sudden our good buddy Rhino, the bearded pop back on with his 1257 01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:09,780 double O countdown, which you know, it's it's it's fun to 1258 01:17:09,780 --> 01:17:15,660 listen to. It's really there's just so much interesting variety 1259 01:17:15,660 --> 01:17:20,880 of stuff that you should check it out. And certainly on both 1260 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,780 Thursdays when we do the show on Sundays and Thursdays, no agenda 1261 01:17:24,780 --> 01:17:27,660 stream.com. And it's good to have everybody there in the 1262 01:17:27,660 --> 01:17:32,940 troll room this morning. Also in the morning to I believe we see 1263 01:17:32,940 --> 01:17:37,680 I believe this is Sir Andrew Gardner, who brought us the 1264 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,820 artwork for episode 1142. We titled that corner Gedan. And 1265 01:17:41,820 --> 01:17:46,260 this was Bob Muller as Moses with the tablets. It was wasn't 1266 01:17:46,260 --> 01:17:49,890 the best photoshop job. But it was the right intent it had all 1267 01:17:49,890 --> 01:17:53,670 the right elements made us chuckle and therefore bestowed 1268 01:17:53,670 --> 01:17:58,500 with the with the honor of representing us in pod catch 1269 01:17:58,710 --> 01:18:03,600 apps all across Gitmo nation, where this new image popped up. 1270 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,060 And we certainly appreciate it on all of the worker artists do 1271 01:18:06,060 --> 01:18:11,130 no agenda art generator.com You too can participate and win fame 1272 01:18:11,130 --> 01:18:14,460 and fortune by having your artwork chosen. Thank you very 1273 01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:17,550 much to all of our artists. Now executive producers Associate 1274 01:18:17,550 --> 01:18:20,190 Executive Producers our value for value model. Who do we have 1275 01:18:20,190 --> 01:18:21,300 to thank today, John? 1276 01:18:21,809 --> 01:18:23,099 John C. Dvorak: Oh, first of all, I want to mention that I 1277 01:18:23,099 --> 01:18:27,329 did use Mike Riley's piece for the newsletter. Which one was 1278 01:18:27,329 --> 01:18:30,599 that? It was a really nice evergreen piece that I thought 1279 01:18:30,599 --> 01:18:38,009 was just dynamite. I can't it just it was just the art class 1280 01:18:39,089 --> 01:18:43,889 is hard to describe. But let me do something I can describe is 1281 01:18:45,539 --> 01:18:50,099 executive producer, Christopher Massey, who came in with $400 is 1282 01:18:50,099 --> 01:18:56,249 a top guy for today's show, a 441143 and he says hello John 1283 01:18:56,249 --> 01:19:00,599 and Adam. I'm hopeful to get this donation letter registered 1284 01:19:00,599 --> 01:19:05,129 in time for the Sunday June 2 show you this momentous day is 1285 01:19:05,129 --> 01:19:08,039 when we will be celebrating the high school graduation by first 1286 01:19:08,039 --> 01:19:12,509 human resource but first a deed douching is an order. You've 1287 01:19:12,509 --> 01:19:16,139 been de deuced first donation started listen the show about 1288 01:19:16,139 --> 01:19:19,169 two years ago after got hit in the mouth by a friend. I 1289 01:19:19,169 --> 01:19:22,049 listened to only sporadically as they found it hard to find the 1290 01:19:22,049 --> 01:19:26,909 time to devote the requisite amount of hours each week five 1291 01:19:27,389 --> 01:19:33,779 to the amount of con five, six. The requisite MT five record is 1292 01:19:33,779 --> 01:19:37,739 that amount of content you provide. Slowly, slowly however, 1293 01:19:37,739 --> 01:19:40,949 I found the time to listen more regularly and ultimately later 1294 01:19:40,949 --> 01:19:44,609 hit my son in the mouth as well. The recent deconstruction of the 1295 01:19:44,609 --> 01:19:48,809 Russia Trump Carnival has been tremendous and although I was 1296 01:19:48,809 --> 01:19:53,459 really doubting Adams theory about Mueller being a cover up 1297 01:19:53,459 --> 01:19:56,969 guy at first, I've come around to at least accept it as a 1298 01:19:56,969 --> 01:20:01,649 strong possibility. Okay, My son and I have been spent a lot of 1299 01:20:01,649 --> 01:20:03,779 time on the road we are frequently traveling for his 1300 01:20:03,779 --> 01:20:07,709 athletic tournaments showcases and the like to be in such it's 1301 01:20:07,709 --> 01:20:11,279 been a tradition for us to throw on no agenda for our long drives 1302 01:20:11,279 --> 01:20:15,899 and we always find somebody to trigger a conversation either 1303 01:20:15,929 --> 01:20:20,369 right then or later on. He is now a regular listener as well. 1304 01:20:20,669 --> 01:20:23,339 But he's leaving our nest soon ordered to play sports at even a 1305 01:20:23,339 --> 01:20:28,259 higher level prior to going to college. And I know we will both 1306 01:20:28,259 --> 01:20:31,559 continue what does he do? He's this kind of sports as you play 1307 01:20:31,559 --> 01:20:34,829 I'd like to know Yeah, as politely to split this donation 1308 01:20:34,829 --> 01:20:37,259 into half for me and my son do that you do the bookkeeping is 1309 01:20:37,259 --> 01:20:40,769 an easy thing to do. I'd love some of our favorite jingles 1310 01:20:40,919 --> 01:20:44,999 goat karma for his next year that's true because I say it to 1311 01:20:44,999 --> 01:20:49,709 him all the time now just a real problem in most families we 1312 01:20:49,710 --> 01:20:52,710 Adam Curry: have we have the issue here as well yeah it's 1313 01:20:52,710 --> 01:20:53,430 true and 1314 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,970 John C. Dvorak: and a full Al Sharpton resist we much 1315 01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:02,370 Unknown: that's true but resist we must. We must and we will 1316 01:21:02,370 --> 01:21:08,790 much about that you've got 1317 01:21:11,010 --> 01:21:13,320 Adam Curry: all right Chris. Yeah, let us know what your son 1318 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:14,610 what kind of sport your son does. 1319 01:21:15,150 --> 01:21:21,300 John C. Dvorak: So Jeffrey stick raw Parts Unknown 393 93 What a 1320 01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:24,120 strange time to be alive does this many dollars make you play 1321 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:32,700 the no agenda anthem? And he says oh dear, I'm hammered. For 1322 01:21:32,700 --> 01:21:37,890 yoga, we don't play it often enough. And you may sing along 1323 01:21:37,890 --> 01:22:01,350 in the morning good mood. We are human resources all lands lands 1324 01:22:01,350 --> 01:22:07,950 and tractors 1325 01:22:16,770 --> 01:22:17,610 Unknown: you've got 1326 01:22:17,790 --> 01:22:18,360 karma. 1327 01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:21,450 Adam Curry: Well, there you go. Thank you for requesting that 1328 01:22:21,450 --> 01:22:25,050 with a very short note Sir Geoffrey. Beautiful love doing 1329 01:22:25,050 --> 01:22:27,690 that the Gitmo nation national anthem. 1330 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:32,070 John C. Dvorak: Joseph lazily you think lately is SLE or 1331 01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:36,150 Adam Curry: lives in New York? Maybe Leisel Liza wisely could 1332 01:22:36,150 --> 01:22:36,450 be 1333 01:22:37,530 --> 01:22:39,870 John C. Dvorak: basil could be licensed but it delays Lee would 1334 01:22:39,870 --> 01:22:47,190 be make sense to me 333 42 I'm a douchebag no more than as Rudy 1335 01:22:47,190 --> 01:22:48,480 douchey but he should give be given 1336 01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:53,340 Adam Curry: I will give him one Sure. Ben de deuced 1337 01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:55,530 John C. Dvorak: I've been listening enthusiastically for 1338 01:22:55,530 --> 01:22:58,860 two years now says by smokin hot wife hit me in the mouth. But 1339 01:22:58,860 --> 01:23:01,860 this is my first donation of the first time yes very good karma 1340 01:23:01,860 --> 01:23:05,700 for our brand new human resource the world you too and your fine 1341 01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:06,150 work well 1342 01:23:06,150 --> 01:23:08,730 Adam Curry: thank you very much. Here's the goat for you. You've 1343 01:23:08,730 --> 01:23:14,220 got karma Dan's your brand new human resource do tell more. 1344 01:23:15,870 --> 01:23:18,480 John C. Dvorak: Mike Harrington Sir My carried into most people. 1345 01:23:18,690 --> 01:23:25,680 Grand Canyon Arizona 333 33 gotta be a great place to visit 1346 01:23:25,710 --> 01:23:29,340 the little town. First I wish to congratulate Adam on his recent 1347 01:23:29,340 --> 01:23:31,920 marriage I wish you and Tina all the best because I do not 1348 01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,670 donate. I have not donated since last October I requested the 1349 01:23:35,670 --> 01:23:36,210 douching 1350 01:23:38,250 --> 01:23:41,340 Adam Curry: you Ben de doo doo Shin going on today. 1351 01:23:41,430 --> 01:23:43,830 John C. Dvorak: It's nice recently yeah recently accepted 1352 01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:47,970 a permanent position at the National Park Service in Grand 1353 01:23:47,970 --> 01:23:54,450 Canyon during the composting and in honor of show 1117 composting 1354 01:23:54,450 --> 01:23:58,170 people. I humbly request that my knighthood title be reverted. He 1355 01:23:58,170 --> 01:24:01,740 has another title to serve compost reyndir 1356 01:24:01,770 --> 01:24:04,440 Adam Curry: Okay, well, we'll put that in today's credits and 1357 01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:05,610 put that on there. 1358 01:24:05,820 --> 01:24:08,100 John C. Dvorak: I would rather deal with the vertical and 1359 01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:11,520 environmental challenges of Grand Canyon compared to the 1360 01:24:11,610 --> 01:24:15,270 grizzly bears at Glacier National Park where I worked 1361 01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:19,230 last summer. If anyone out there wishes to visit Grand Canyon 1362 01:24:19,230 --> 01:24:21,840 please stay away from the edge. 1363 01:24:23,940 --> 01:24:25,770 Adam Curry: Stop with the selfies ladies. 1364 01:24:28,860 --> 01:24:30,960 John C. Dvorak: The shows have been phenomenal as of late and I 1365 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,870 especially appreciate the attention given to topics no one 1366 01:24:33,870 --> 01:24:37,830 else will cover. No agenda certainly helps to keep me sane 1367 01:24:37,830 --> 01:24:41,250 and in essential is essential my well being as I like to heck I 1368 01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:44,190 hike around the canyon during my job I cannot tell you how many 1369 01:24:44,190 --> 01:24:49,170 hikers I've passed on the trail. Who, who? Who look at me 1370 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:53,250 strangely as I as I burst out in laughter while listening to the 1371 01:24:53,250 --> 01:24:56,400 download of the show. Whenever anyone asks why I'm laughing, I 1372 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,970 tell them I'm reacting to my podcast and that they invented 1373 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,660 Billy presume I'm listening to some douchey and elitist TED 1374 01:25:03,660 --> 01:25:04,230 Talk. 1375 01:25:05,130 --> 01:25:09,660 Adam Curry: In fact, we should we should make a separate feed 1376 01:25:10,590 --> 01:25:13,500 for people who just want to listen to no agenda covertly and 1377 01:25:13,500 --> 01:25:16,560 and have lamb and we'll tell like we'll call TED talk. We'll 1378 01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:21,510 misspell something. Yeah. TED talk to you. Okay, you know to 1379 01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:25,920 seek a TED talk. You will have like Ted logos and so people can 1380 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:30,060 feel safe, safe using listening to our show. 1381 01:25:31,050 --> 01:25:32,730 John C. Dvorak: Little do they know I'm listening to the best 1382 01:25:32,730 --> 01:25:35,250 podcast in the universe. Please keep up the good work and know 1383 01:25:35,250 --> 01:25:38,190 that YouTube boats are very appreciated. I request jobs 1384 01:25:38,190 --> 01:25:41,550 coming for all the good old Reverend Al thank you for your 1385 01:25:41,550 --> 01:25:42,030 courage 1386 01:25:46,410 --> 01:25:53,220 Unknown: getting lunch at Chipotle? The tortoise in the 1387 01:25:53,220 --> 01:25:53,940 race? 1388 01:25:55,980 --> 01:26:05,460 Kardashian Weaver, ESP ICT they are all Jide ESP ICT there's no 1389 01:26:05,460 --> 01:26:17,970 real conference. Resist. Resist. We must. We must. And we will 1390 01:26:17,970 --> 01:26:19,980 much about 1391 01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:31,920 jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. All right. 1392 01:26:33,450 --> 01:26:36,180 John C. Dvorak: Every time I hear that, I think to myself, 1393 01:26:36,450 --> 01:26:43,350 I'm pretty sure that Reverend owl pronounces GIF. like that as 1394 01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:47,160 opposed to gifts. That's why he said Jedi 1395 01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:50,640 Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, maybe if we ever encounter him that will 1396 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:51,990 be the number one question 1397 01:26:52,230 --> 01:26:55,110 John C. Dvorak: dad's if anyone meets the guy asked him how he 1398 01:26:55,170 --> 01:26:57,960 pronounced it show him the word by Brian down a peacemaker don't 1399 01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,330 say it's just how do you pronounce this word? How do you 1400 01:27:00,330 --> 01:27:02,520 pronounce this word? Don't say it just how do you pronounce you 1401 01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:08,400 think he'll say Judy? Bob Welsh is next on the list is Associate 1402 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:15,210 Executive Producers 26252 Thanks, Adam and John by blank 1403 01:27:15,210 --> 01:27:19,230 blank. Where man and woman overboard Bob and B Belissa. 1404 01:27:19,260 --> 01:27:24,570 bellies. Bill Melissa. Okay. Pronounce like Melissa. But will 1405 01:27:24,570 --> 01:27:30,450 they be coming back to the fray? We needed douche douching for 1406 01:27:30,450 --> 01:27:32,100 many years for many years back. 1407 01:27:32,130 --> 01:27:36,240 Adam Curry: Okay, let's do douche then. You've been de 1408 01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:36,960 deuced 1409 01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,090 John C. Dvorak: there's a contribution the first of the 1410 01:27:39,090 --> 01:27:45,120 work for the Adam curry School of dancing for seniors. Upcoming 1411 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:49,560 John C. Devorah cookbook for fake meat and farmed salmon. 1412 01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,720 It's a beautiful birthday on June 21. Delighted to get a goat 1413 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,870 scream at That's true. A squirrel and maybe hot pockets. 1414 01:27:57,870 --> 01:28:01,140 You can dredge it up. Congrats. Congrats Adam on your recent 1415 01:28:01,140 --> 01:28:04,950 wedding. Bob and Bill Alyssa. 1416 01:28:05,070 --> 01:28:06,900 Adam Curry: All right. And we'll throw some karmi in there for 1417 01:28:06,900 --> 01:28:13,830 you as well. Let me do that again. I missed up the sequence. 1418 01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:14,730 I can do that better. 1419 01:28:15,480 --> 01:28:16,170 Unknown: Gosh, darn it 1420 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:21,570 you've got 1421 01:28:21,780 --> 01:28:22,440 karma. 1422 01:28:26,610 --> 01:28:28,230 John C. Dvorak: Nicholas Robinson in Somerville, 1423 01:28:28,230 --> 01:28:36,150 Massachusetts and choose nuts to a 102 I humbly request some 1424 01:28:36,150 --> 01:28:39,150 moving karma as I transition away from living in apartments 1425 01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:42,510 and into my first house. Thank you for your courage and keep up 1426 01:28:42,540 --> 01:28:43,320 the good work. 1427 01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:45,630 Adam Curry: Oh guards. Yeah, congratulation carries. 1428 01:28:45,630 --> 01:28:48,540 Congratulations Nicholas on the on the new house. Here is your 1429 01:28:48,540 --> 01:28:49,770 moving karma as requested. 1430 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:54,030 Unknown: You've got karma Are you good? 1431 01:28:55,980 --> 01:28:59,880 John C. Dvorak: Eric Roos boom, Roosevelt ramp in on the lake. 1432 01:28:59,940 --> 01:29:02,940 Adam Curry: crimper. Close. Rosenbaum crimp and Angelique 1433 01:29:02,970 --> 01:29:03,420 very good 1434 01:29:03,450 --> 01:29:07,620 John C. Dvorak: well, Rosa, boom. He's in the Netherlands. 1435 01:29:07,740 --> 01:29:11,550 You can jump because of your Netherlands standing accent. 1436 01:29:11,580 --> 01:29:17,940 Yes. $200 ITM John and Adam after years of donating $5 per 1437 01:29:17,940 --> 01:29:20,640 month I'm getting closer to being knighted. This donation is 1438 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,370 a giant leap into to this goal and contribution to the best 1439 01:29:23,370 --> 01:29:27,210 podcast in the universe. Monday the third, it'd be celebrating 1440 01:29:27,210 --> 01:29:29,550 my 50th birthday, the old fashioned Dutch way. 1441 01:29:30,420 --> 01:29:33,240 Adam Curry: We know how that works. Have come on everybody. 1442 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:34,200 Let's go with 1443 01:29:34,230 --> 01:29:36,720 John C. Dvorak: Dutch birthday circle listening to each other's 1444 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:41,640 boring stories. And now let's I don't think people have heard 1445 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,080 this for at least a number of years. 1446 01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:46,260 Adam Curry: Yes. So the Dutch birthday experience. It has 1447 01:29:46,290 --> 01:29:50,610 multiple facets. The main way it works is you go over and this 1448 01:29:50,610 --> 01:29:53,340 may have changed throughout the past 20 years. I haven't really 1449 01:29:53,340 --> 01:29:54,570 actively been living there. 1450 01:29:54,900 --> 01:29:57,660 John C. Dvorak: But I have no evidence of this having change. 1451 01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:58,710 There's no evidence of 1452 01:29:58,710 --> 01:30:02,430 Adam Curry: it having change You go over to the person's house 1453 01:30:02,430 --> 01:30:04,890 and everything's decorated, they have a chair that Dutchman nuts 1454 01:30:04,890 --> 01:30:08,700 about birthday, that chair will be decorated with balloons and 1455 01:30:08,700 --> 01:30:12,000 all kinds of stuff from the early morning on by the way, you 1456 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,700 get up in the morning your chairs already decked out your 1457 01:30:14,700 --> 01:30:18,270 presents are there and it's a big, it's very festive. All the 1458 01:30:18,270 --> 01:30:20,400 family and the friends come, it's the same people you saw 1459 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,580 last week at someone else's birthday party. And then they 1460 01:30:23,610 --> 01:30:26,730 have all the chairs in a circle in the living room. And we're 1461 01:30:26,730 --> 01:30:29,580 all drinking and we're chatting and we talk about things like 1462 01:30:29,730 --> 01:30:34,080 you know, our morning would bad breath, you know, your your 1463 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,830 wife's bad breath. And it's the same stories and everyone kind 1464 01:30:37,830 --> 01:30:41,460 of does it. The kicker though is when you go to the bathroom in a 1465 01:30:41,460 --> 01:30:46,500 Dutch home, there will be a calendar on the wall seat height 1466 01:30:47,070 --> 01:30:51,300 for men and women. Women see the calendar more often. And the 1467 01:30:51,300 --> 01:30:54,510 calendar is a Birthday Calendar. And you can see because of 1468 01:30:54,510 --> 01:30:57,180 course you're at the person's house. Oh, it's their birthday 1469 01:30:57,180 --> 01:31:00,300 here today. You can put your own on and you can also look ahead 1470 01:31:00,420 --> 01:31:03,870 and see where the next circle will be. It's a wonderful 1471 01:31:03,870 --> 01:31:07,800 cultural experience that I recommend to everybody. Only 1472 01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:08,340 once 1473 01:31:09,930 --> 01:31:12,630 John C. Dvorak: it sounds dreadful 1474 01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:15,600 Adam Curry: No, it's really quite okay it's really nice of 1475 01:31:15,690 --> 01:31:18,300 the way the Dutch I like the Birthday Calendar. I still think 1476 01:31:18,300 --> 01:31:20,610 it's a great promotional item because a very 1477 01:31:20,610 --> 01:31:22,620 John C. Dvorak: funny idea that should do put some no agenda 1478 01:31:22,620 --> 01:31:24,030 propaganda in there. Oh, 1479 01:31:24,030 --> 01:31:26,280 Adam Curry: we should we should have rubber stamp. 1480 01:31:27,540 --> 01:31:30,810 John C. Dvorak: Here we go. A pocket rubber stamp that says no 1481 01:31:30,810 --> 01:31:35,790 agenda show the best podcast is www no agenda show.com rubber 1482 01:31:35,790 --> 01:31:39,720 stamp pocket type the kind of you can put your podcast, stamp 1483 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,340 it on everything. 1484 01:31:41,790 --> 01:31:44,100 Adam Curry: Doesn't sound like it'll be very beneficial to the 1485 01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:47,040 show. I don't think so. 1486 01:31:47,340 --> 01:31:50,550 John C. Dvorak: He he would like to request a goat karma, Dr. 1487 01:31:50,550 --> 01:31:57,180 Kiki and science and an F cancer. And he says to Groton is 1488 01:31:57,180 --> 01:32:05,100 that what is the fruiting group, Gordon Cruden crimping on Dilek. 1489 01:32:06,030 --> 01:32:15,840 Nail this already you've got 1490 01:32:16,050 --> 01:32:16,620 Unknown: karma 1491 01:32:18,900 --> 01:32:21,510 John C. Dvorak: that wraps up our executive producer list and 1492 01:32:21,510 --> 01:32:24,450 Associate Executive Producer list for show level 43 I want to 1493 01:32:24,450 --> 01:32:27,690 thank all these folks for helping keeping this show alive. 1494 01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,420 Adam Curry: Yes, it is highly appreciated, particularly seeing 1495 01:32:30,420 --> 01:32:32,760 everyone coming in with D douching. Since they haven't 1496 01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,270 been around for a while. It's nice to see that nice to know 1497 01:32:36,270 --> 01:32:38,970 that people aren't overboard. Cuz there's really no other way 1498 01:32:38,970 --> 01:32:41,640 we know there's no way to check statistics. We don't know really 1499 01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,010 how many people are listening. We don't care because we don't 1500 01:32:44,010 --> 01:32:46,920 have to tell any advertisers all we want is for you to be happy 1501 01:32:47,070 --> 01:32:50,100 for us to be happy and to be able to pay the rent. And thank 1502 01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:53,850 you to everyone who donated under the executive and 1503 01:32:53,850 --> 01:32:56,550 Associate Executive Producer ship level be thanking you 1504 01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,490 coming up in the second segment. And these are of course very 1505 01:32:59,490 --> 01:33:02,640 valuable titles. They are real production credits. You can use 1506 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,430 them anywhere credits are accepted. If someone calls you 1507 01:33:05,430 --> 01:33:08,850 on it questions it will be happy to hop on the phone and vouch 1508 01:33:08,850 --> 01:33:11,400 for you. And remember, but another show coming up on 1509 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,600 Thursday you can support us 1510 01:33:12,599 --> 01:33:16,379 Unknown: at VO rec.org/and A, 1511 01:33:16,530 --> 01:33:19,110 Adam Curry: you've got it all you know how that birthday is 1512 01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:21,090 worked out that propagate our formula. Our 1513 01:33:21,089 --> 01:33:25,529 Unknown: formula is this. We go out for yet people in the mouth 1514 01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,040 we believe in science. 1515 01:33:38,670 --> 01:33:41,310 Adam Curry: Kinda like that Liz dropped a good name that kind of 1516 01:33:41,310 --> 01:33:43,530 works everywhere. It's a good one. I 1517 01:33:43,530 --> 01:33:45,270 John C. Dvorak: think you can drop it anywhere. We were 1518 01:33:45,270 --> 01:33:47,550 talking about impeachment a little while ago, I did have one 1519 01:33:47,550 --> 01:33:53,130 clip that I wanted to sneak in. This was on MSNBC. And this is 1520 01:33:53,130 --> 01:33:56,190 the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And of course, most 1521 01:33:56,190 --> 01:34:00,420 people weren't too impressed. But this is Donny Deutsch. 1522 01:34:01,770 --> 01:34:03,480 Adam Curry: Let me just hide. This is how it works in the 1523 01:34:03,480 --> 01:34:08,430 curry household, which I can say now. Donny Deutsch will be on or 1524 01:34:08,430 --> 01:34:11,610 something. Well, I kind of watch MSNBC a lot when I'm here during 1525 01:34:11,610 --> 01:34:16,050 the day. And Mrs. Curry, we'll say Isn't that Donny Deutsch an 1526 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:20,130 advertising guy? What is he doing with that exact voice? By 1527 01:34:20,130 --> 01:34:20,490 the way, 1528 01:34:21,210 --> 01:34:23,250 John C. Dvorak: Donny Deutsch? Well, we're glad you're getting 1529 01:34:24,150 --> 01:34:24,570 your voice. 1530 01:34:24,809 --> 01:34:26,909 Adam Curry: I know I'm getting I'm getting. I've heard her 1531 01:34:26,909 --> 01:34:27,269 talks 1532 01:34:27,270 --> 01:34:30,930 John C. Dvorak: or anything like that. She shared just Oh crap. 1533 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,790 Adam Curry: It's a lie. It's not true. 1534 01:34:33,300 --> 01:34:38,130 John C. Dvorak: It's a lie. So Donny Deutsch comes on and he is 1535 01:34:38,130 --> 01:34:41,550 a notorious I don't know how he got this way. A lot of people 1536 01:34:41,550 --> 01:34:44,550 are these. They're beyond the pale when it comes to Trump 1537 01:34:44,550 --> 01:34:48,750 hate. Yeah. And he's one of them. And I don't, it has to 1538 01:34:48,750 --> 01:34:53,190 stem back from you know, the guy Trump is has a insulting 1539 01:34:53,370 --> 01:34:58,470 character. Most often, I think he would in his years of being 1540 01:34:58,470 --> 01:35:01,230 in New York and running into people, events, 1541 01:35:01,260 --> 01:35:03,390 Adam Curry: everyone being in New York. Everyone's running 1542 01:35:03,390 --> 01:35:06,180 into Donny Deutsch back in his ad days. Everyone knows him. 1543 01:35:06,630 --> 01:35:08,580 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, so I think Trump ran into him and insult 1544 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,360 him. So he's still pissed about it. Now, here's what his 1545 01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:16,770 thinking is about impeachment. And this is like, probably an 1546 01:35:16,770 --> 01:35:20,250 interesting idea. But this is due to transparency, I don't 1547 01:35:20,250 --> 01:35:23,160 think would work and I think it would be condemned. But here's 1548 01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:24,630 what he's saying. And I 1549 01:35:24,630 --> 01:35:28,140 Unknown: politics on MSNBC, Donny Deutsch. So Donnie, what 1550 01:35:28,140 --> 01:35:30,270 do you make of this argument? This is the political argument 1551 01:35:30,270 --> 01:35:33,150 versus the base argument. And you want the word impeachment 1552 01:35:33,150 --> 01:35:34,560 out of the conversation, explain that. 1553 01:35:34,559 --> 01:35:39,449 I want to rebrand the fight. You have to fight the Democrats have 1554 01:35:39,449 --> 01:35:42,329 to fight to the reps point. But you don't want to fight that 1555 01:35:42,329 --> 01:35:45,119 you're going to lose. You're going to lose an impeachment 1556 01:35:45,119 --> 01:35:47,849 fight for two reasons, because Donald Trump gets to say, 1557 01:35:48,029 --> 01:35:50,249 they're coming to take me away. You they're going to take your 1558 01:35:50,249 --> 01:35:53,519 president, and it's not going to go anywhere in the Senate. So 1559 01:35:53,609 --> 01:35:56,369 you do look like sore losers and you're setting up a losing 1560 01:35:56,369 --> 01:36:00,359 fight. Does that mean you fight don't fight? No. You rebrand the 1561 01:36:00,359 --> 01:36:03,419 fights, step away from impeachment, and change it to 1562 01:36:03,419 --> 01:36:06,809 the Trump criminal investigations already brand him 1563 01:36:06,809 --> 01:36:10,169 a criminal. You say? Robert Muller basically said he 1564 01:36:10,169 --> 01:36:13,289 obstructed justice. We know that that was a criminal activity. He 1565 01:36:13,289 --> 01:36:16,019 just couldn't date because of the guidelines. We know he's an 1566 01:36:16,019 --> 01:36:19,169 unindicted co conspirator with the Southern District. We know 1567 01:36:19,169 --> 01:36:22,319 we're going to be looking at his taxes. His philanthropies, you 1568 01:36:22,319 --> 01:36:26,519 Nancy Pelosi, you Jerry Nadler, you Adam Schiff, you Elijah 1569 01:36:26,519 --> 01:36:30,719 Cummings started initiate the Trump criminal investigations. 1570 01:36:30,809 --> 01:36:34,289 Impeachment may be part of it. Brand him a criminal already you 1571 01:36:34,289 --> 01:36:38,369 have already had an ag that has gone on a branding exercise. The 1572 01:36:38,429 --> 01:36:42,239 head of the judicial system is went on a branding exercise 1573 01:36:42,329 --> 01:36:46,289 successfully. The Congress needs to rebrand impeachment. The 1574 01:36:46,289 --> 01:36:49,979 Trump criminal investigations have him saying I'm not a 1575 01:36:49,979 --> 01:36:54,179 criminal. That is the simple winning fight. rebrand 1576 01:36:54,239 --> 01:36:56,159 impeachment is not the right word for you. 1577 01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:01,260 Adam Curry: Hmm, rebranded talking like an ad guy. That's 1578 01:37:01,260 --> 01:37:04,680 rebranded brother. So what exactly does he want? Does he 1579 01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:05,460 mean by that? 1580 01:37:05,820 --> 01:37:11,130 John C. Dvorak: He wants to pivot. He wants to pivot. All 1581 01:37:11,130 --> 01:37:14,190 right, pivot to I don't know what he wants is a stupid, it's 1582 01:37:14,190 --> 01:37:17,310 just like let's rebrand and start. This is not going to 1583 01:37:17,310 --> 01:37:21,090 work. And it's a bad idea. In fact, I don't know why that 1584 01:37:21,090 --> 01:37:24,000 seems to me all they did. All this is turning out and he says 1585 01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,460 the Democrats have to fight they have to, yeah, they have to 1586 01:37:26,460 --> 01:37:29,640 fight when the elections come around. To just spend three 1587 01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,250 years whether there's a president you don't like you 1588 01:37:32,250 --> 01:37:34,920 don't like the guys in office, you don't like him. So all 1589 01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,770 you're going to do is fight for three years and maybe four 1590 01:37:37,770 --> 01:37:40,800 years. Do nothing. Beware Elizabeth Warren can do that 1591 01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:41,670 with their hands. 1592 01:37:42,300 --> 01:37:44,550 Adam Curry: What else? What else? What else would this guy 1593 01:37:44,550 --> 01:37:47,160 do? He's got nothing better to do. 1594 01:37:47,970 --> 01:37:53,520 John C. Dvorak: Who Donny Deutsch just go back to his old 1595 01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:58,350 business. He's not an interesting character. But okay, 1596 01:37:58,379 --> 01:38:00,029 Adam Curry: well look at Donnie dork just to give you an idea. 1597 01:38:00,059 --> 01:38:05,549 If you haven't, like saying Donny Deutsch. Brittani reminds 1598 01:38:05,549 --> 01:38:10,049 Donny Deutsch, he reminds me of Larry Copal, who you don't know 1599 01:38:10,049 --> 01:38:12,689 I don't think anyone in the ad business will remember Larry 1600 01:38:12,689 --> 01:38:16,739 cobalt. And he's one of these guys who either winds up being 1601 01:38:16,739 --> 01:38:20,609 the creative director or the CEO or like President, as I was 1602 01:38:20,609 --> 01:38:22,739 always my favorite title, I was wanting to be the president of 1603 01:38:22,739 --> 01:38:25,679 some organization, and co founder because I co founded 1604 01:38:25,709 --> 01:38:28,409 that. So I'm cool. But I'm President, I have no phone, no 1605 01:38:28,409 --> 01:38:31,889 responsibility. It's like, I don't have a seat title and do 1606 01:38:31,889 --> 01:38:34,709 whatever you want. He's the president of stuff. And he's 1607 01:38:34,709 --> 01:38:39,029 he's the guy who will go into the client, like Oracle and 1608 01:38:39,629 --> 01:38:44,309 explain his vision for rebranding their, their database 1609 01:38:44,309 --> 01:38:49,709 product. That's that's what he does or used to do. And I see 1610 01:38:49,769 --> 01:38:53,609 children from all over the world. And I see how Oracle is 1611 01:38:53,609 --> 01:38:57,599 making the database. bring joy to the children, and everyone 1612 01:38:57,599 --> 01:39:01,829 goes, Oh, yeah, Donnie, and he's a legend. That's the kind of guy 1613 01:39:01,829 --> 01:39:05,459 he is. Yeah. Well, I figured it out. 1614 01:39:05,490 --> 01:39:07,560 John C. Dvorak: I figured it out. John, mock him. They mocked 1615 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:07,770 him. 1616 01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:10,110 Adam Curry: I'm gonna move away from politics for a moment. 1617 01:39:10,860 --> 01:39:16,920 Good. I figured it out. I figured out what Oh, and now I 1618 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,520 really figured it out. And it was something we could have 1619 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:29,670 known. Tucker Carlson had a guy on the this past week. And this 1620 01:39:29,670 --> 01:39:37,980 guy's name is Luis Elizondo, and he is billed as a former 1621 01:39:38,010 --> 01:39:42,990 military Intel officer, and I'm quoting the lower third 1622 01:39:42,990 --> 01:39:49,680 verbatim, former military Intel officer sounds impressive, very 1623 01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:54,450 impressive. And when I heard this interview about the tic 1624 01:39:54,450 --> 01:39:59,220 tac, the flying tic tac this flying saucers, oh, these air 1625 01:39:59,220 --> 01:40:02,670 force pilots military pilots coming out and being very open 1626 01:40:02,670 --> 01:40:05,400 and not having an issue at all about talking about these very 1627 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:08,940 strange stuff. I mean, are they among us? Are the aliens here? 1628 01:40:08,940 --> 01:40:12,330 Are they? Are they just flying around? I mean, it's just it's, 1629 01:40:12,390 --> 01:40:16,740 it's flustering. So bring in the expert, the former military, 1630 01:40:16,740 --> 01:40:18,690 Intel officer Louise, 1631 01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:20,970 Unknown: we have the most sophisticated weapons systems 1632 01:40:20,970 --> 01:40:24,060 right now on the face of the planet. And we can identify not 1633 01:40:24,060 --> 01:40:29,250 only a 737, or a MIG 25, or F 22. We can tell you even what 1634 01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,610 airline it is, and the difference between the models of 1635 01:40:32,610 --> 01:40:36,660 aircraft within that type of aircraft. So I think it's highly 1636 01:40:36,660 --> 01:40:39,630 unlikely that a foreign adversary was successful in 1637 01:40:39,630 --> 01:40:41,520 developing something like this. So let me ask you one last 1638 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:46,050 question. Do you believe based on your decade of serving in the 1639 01:40:46,050 --> 01:40:50,340 US government on this question, that the US government has 1640 01:40:50,340 --> 01:40:56,460 possession of any material from one of these aircrafts? I do, 1641 01:40:56,490 --> 01:40:56,970 yes. 1642 01:40:57,750 --> 01:41:02,610 Do you think the US government has debris from a UFO in his 1643 01:41:02,610 --> 01:41:03,480 possession right now? 1644 01:41:03,540 --> 01:41:06,870 Unfortunate Tucker, I really have to be careful of my NDA. I 1645 01:41:06,870 --> 01:41:11,970 really can't go into a lot more detail in that. Okay, but simply 1646 01:41:11,970 --> 01:41:14,310 put, yes. Bullshit. 1647 01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,040 Adam Curry: Okay. Let's just review that last minute there. 1648 01:41:17,580 --> 01:41:22,530 Oh, Tucker. Oh, Tucker. I really I really can't tell you too 1649 01:41:22,530 --> 01:41:26,610 much. I will break my NDA. Listen to this guy thing you 1650 01:41:26,610 --> 01:41:27,810 asked God listen to this 1651 01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:31,530 Unknown: is debris from UFO possession right now. 1652 01:41:31,650 --> 01:41:34,950 Unfortunate Tucker, I really have to be careful of my NDA. I 1653 01:41:34,950 --> 01:41:36,240 really can't go in. Okay, so 1654 01:41:36,270 --> 01:41:39,240 Adam Curry: the question is, do you think the US government has 1655 01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:44,250 debris from an alien spacecraft talker? I, I really can't. It's 1656 01:41:44,250 --> 01:41:44,970 my NDA. It's 1657 01:41:45,809 --> 01:41:51,179 Unknown: it's my detail. But But simply put, yes. Yes. It's 1658 01:41:51,210 --> 01:41:54,210 Adam Curry: okay. So I guess I can break my this guy is full of 1659 01:41:54,210 --> 01:41:58,590 shit. So I go look them up. Luis Elizondo, former employee of the 1660 01:41:58,620 --> 01:42:03,390 Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for intelligence. Do we 1661 01:42:03,390 --> 01:42:07,410 even know what that is? He currently serves as Director of 1662 01:42:07,410 --> 01:42:12,540 Global Security and special programs to the stars Academy of 1663 01:42:12,570 --> 01:42:17,850 Arts and Science. Oh, and you go to their website, which is very 1664 01:42:17,850 --> 01:42:23,190 cool. It's to the stars academy.com. And there's a video 1665 01:42:23,190 --> 01:42:25,110 we can listen to and watch. Have you ever 1666 01:42:25,110 --> 01:42:27,960 Unknown: had the desire to look outward to the edge of what is 1667 01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:31,380 known and unknown? We have the chance to do something 1668 01:42:31,380 --> 01:42:34,530 revolutionary, something that I think has never been attempted 1669 01:42:34,530 --> 01:42:37,410 before. What if I told you I found a group of like minded 1670 01:42:37,410 --> 01:42:40,440 people who held senior positions in the US government, from the 1671 01:42:40,440 --> 01:42:44,220 CIA to the Department of Defense to the most advanced aerospace 1672 01:42:44,220 --> 01:42:47,040 engineering groups within our national security establishment 1673 01:42:47,070 --> 01:42:50,310 people who have life skills and collecting and decoding elusive 1674 01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:53,520 information. And they all wanted to do something ambitious, 1675 01:42:53,550 --> 01:42:56,280 something that could help change the conversation about who we 1676 01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,250 are through an unparalleled search for answers that can 1677 01:42:59,250 --> 01:43:03,600 propel humanity forward. 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Dvorak: aliens but 1700 01:44:20,820 --> 01:44:23,310 Adam Curry: there's also one other little thing happening the 1701 01:44:23,310 --> 01:44:25,710 right now we really think 1702 01:44:25,710 --> 01:44:32,040 Unknown: a black suit is going to solve all your problems. No, 1703 01:44:32,370 --> 01:44:32,790 but 1704 01:44:33,390 --> 01:44:34,350 looks damn good on you. 1705 01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:50,280 Recognizable only as Deja Vu and dismissed justice crypkey. Time 1706 01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:54,390 to prove yourself agent we may have a property in London. 1707 01:44:55,140 --> 01:44:56,250 Welcome to MIB. 1708 01:44:58,350 --> 01:45:01,620 You will be with ancient ancient For the best ever to weather 1709 01:45:01,620 --> 01:45:14,850 suit we are the men and black exactly tables. 1710 01:45:16,710 --> 01:45:19,560 Adam Curry: That's right out in theaters just now just in time 1711 01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:23,730 for all the hype Men in Black international now. Yes, another 1712 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:30,420 massive box office Bonanza money making movie with some advice 1713 01:45:30,450 --> 01:45:34,770 and some consulting from the to the stars. academy.com. This 1714 01:45:34,770 --> 01:45:37,980 whole thing has been about a movie promotion from the get go, 1715 01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:40,440 and we missed it. Well, I 1716 01:45:40,440 --> 01:45:43,770 John C. Dvorak: don't think we missed he didn't bring it up. I 1717 01:45:43,770 --> 01:45:46,800 don't think that's it either. I mean, this whole Tucker Carlson 1718 01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:50,100 thing was it even promoted on there? What do you think comes 1719 01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:53,370 on? He does he does a crap job of promoting as he is. 1720 01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:56,820 Adam Curry: Well, no, no, no, no, no, no backup backup. All of 1721 01:45:56,820 --> 01:46:00,000 this. Let's go back to the stupid tic tac videos. That's 1722 01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:03,120 all in promotion of the movie. It's not just this guy. The 1723 01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:06,270 whole thing has been a setup. Like we always say, 1724 01:46:06,300 --> 01:46:08,070 John C. Dvorak: this is something I think some producers 1725 01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:14,850 have noticed about us. We used it more thematically. Do this 1726 01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:20,400 point out that just whatever's being publicized and all over 1727 01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:25,620 the news is just a prelude to some crappy movie. And we have 1728 01:46:25,620 --> 01:46:29,310 not really made a point of doing that as much as we used to five 1729 01:46:29,310 --> 01:46:32,250 years ago or six years ago. Right. And I think that's valid. 1730 01:46:32,490 --> 01:46:34,140 Adam Curry: I think this is where this is what it's all 1731 01:46:34,140 --> 01:46:37,920 about, particularly when I see this guy is showing up 1732 01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:41,430 everywhere. He's talking about the little blips there, and he 1733 01:46:41,430 --> 01:46:47,520 was and he was I can't I have an NDA, but yes, yeah. But yeah. 1734 01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:53,430 And see what does it show here? The Luis Elizondo reveals 1735 01:46:53,430 --> 01:46:57,300 details about Pentagon's hidden UFO program in stunning New York 1736 01:46:57,300 --> 01:47:00,780 Times front page expose a so we can trip 1737 01:47:00,780 --> 01:47:03,270 John C. Dvorak: times game, okay. native ad. Yes, 1738 01:47:03,330 --> 01:47:08,610 Adam Curry: exactly. Exactly. The whole thing is one big 1739 01:47:08,610 --> 01:47:09,300 native ad. 1740 01:47:09,870 --> 01:47:12,960 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, for the movie. Yeah. From that movie or 1741 01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:13,680 is it a new 1742 01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,860 Adam Curry: it's no it's well, it's not with Will Smith. It 1743 01:47:16,860 --> 01:47:19,530 hasn't new young hip actors and it also has 1744 01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:23,250 John C. Dvorak: what's what's as opposed to Will Smith Yeah, 1745 01:47:23,490 --> 01:47:27,930 Adam Curry: but what's his name? The the Liam? Liam Neeson? 1746 01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:31,020 John C. Dvorak: He's nuisances you just get kidnapped again? 1747 01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:33,810 What's the deal? Now he's, he's, 1748 01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:35,820 Adam Curry: he's playing the Tommy Lee Jones, kind of like 1749 01:47:35,820 --> 01:47:39,660 the older guy showing the younger kid the ropes. That's 1750 01:47:39,660 --> 01:47:43,710 the format of the movie. But I but I can't tell you, John, 1751 01:47:43,710 --> 01:47:46,680 because you know, I don't want to break my NDA. Yeah, you'll 1752 01:47:46,740 --> 01:47:51,300 just boiler can't tell you too much about the movie. So there 1753 01:47:51,300 --> 01:47:55,680 it is. Everybody. We even I was confused. I thought well, maybe 1754 01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,140 it's about the the next phone out. 1755 01:47:59,250 --> 01:48:01,800 John C. Dvorak: More of a mia culpa. It is an extra. Okay, 1756 01:48:01,830 --> 01:48:05,250 that's interesting. I think you're right. Somehow we've 1757 01:48:05,250 --> 01:48:09,030 missed out on the we don't do this enough. I think somebody 1758 01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:13,740 said to us and we should have we should be more alert. Yes. And 1759 01:48:13,740 --> 01:48:15,570 oh crap. The Hollywood 1760 01:48:15,900 --> 01:48:17,760 Adam Curry: the Hollywood influence and as you know, we 1761 01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:21,270 believe in science. Just want to make sure that we're on the up 1762 01:48:21,270 --> 01:48:22,710 and up. Of course, 1763 01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:25,079 John C. Dvorak: well, I have an interesting den this Sunday that 1764 01:48:25,079 --> 01:48:30,389 would normally wouldn't cover although I have a thesis that 1765 01:48:30,719 --> 01:48:33,689 you know, these some of these events that many of them which 1766 01:48:33,869 --> 01:48:36,539 could be described as false flags. I think there's good 1767 01:48:36,539 --> 01:48:42,329 reason for it. Because the script issues i i have i have 1768 01:48:42,359 --> 01:48:45,329 the couple of clips on the Virginia Beach gunman This is 1769 01:48:45,329 --> 01:48:49,079 the big story that broke on Friday, I think yeah, some guys 1770 01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:51,479 gun and just from across the street just shooting people 1771 01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:55,019 randomly like it's like a maniac, but he worked there. No, 1772 01:48:55,049 --> 01:48:57,299 yeah. And he was a worker that did most of this is covered in 1773 01:48:57,299 --> 01:49:00,509 this NBC report. Let's start with part one shot five. 1774 01:49:00,690 --> 01:49:03,480 Unknown: Witnesses said a man was firing at the Public Works 1775 01:49:03,480 --> 01:49:06,780 building next to City Hall part of a sprawling downtown city 1776 01:49:06,780 --> 01:49:10,920 government complex on second floor to take the garage 1777 01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:14,490 Sallyport as first responders flooded in and city employees 1778 01:49:14,490 --> 01:49:17,370 ran out. police stormed the building and found what they 1779 01:49:17,370 --> 01:49:20,730 said was a single gunman who was subdued and taken into custody 1780 01:49:20,790 --> 01:49:25,830 the suspect entered building to he's a longtime employee of 1781 01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:28,530 public utilities, and he immediately began to 1782 01:49:28,530 --> 01:49:36,030 indiscriminately fire upon all the victims Hello, 1783 01:49:36,570 --> 01:49:37,710 John C. Dvorak: what's it in there? 1784 01:49:37,740 --> 01:49:39,930 Adam Curry: Yeah. 32 second clip. That's all I got here. 1785 01:49:40,260 --> 01:49:42,150 John C. Dvorak: Oh, my God. 1786 01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:44,760 Adam Curry: This is the karma you get for saying my stuff. 1787 01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:45,540 Don't sound good. 1788 01:49:45,810 --> 01:49:48,750 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I don't think so. But let's go to part 1789 01:49:48,750 --> 01:49:51,870 of Virginia. Okay. I still had luckily I saved part of it. 1790 01:49:52,440 --> 01:49:55,500 Virginia Beach gunman to that final of this. 1791 01:49:55,770 --> 01:49:58,830 Unknown: Please. Six people were rushed to local hospitals. One 1792 01:49:58,830 --> 01:50:01,680 man who was inside so I was shooting victim on a flight of 1793 01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:03,210 stairs. Ever Shama 1794 01:50:03,210 --> 01:50:05,730 says you could have shot who knows. We don't even know she 1795 01:50:05,730 --> 01:50:08,340 was on a stairway coming up going down, but she was on the 1796 01:50:08,340 --> 01:50:09,240 stairway. The city 1797 01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:11,790 workers in nearby buildings were worn to stay away. 1798 01:50:11,850 --> 01:50:15,690 We heard shooting, but we didn't think it was that close. That 1799 01:50:15,690 --> 01:50:18,600 close like in proximity of the building. 1800 01:50:18,630 --> 01:50:22,770 This is the most devastating day in the history of Virginia 1801 01:50:22,770 --> 01:50:30,180 Beach. The people involved are friends, co workers, neighbors, 1802 01:50:30,930 --> 01:50:31,650 colleagues, 1803 01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,370 as police went room to room to make certain it was over city 1804 01:50:35,370 --> 01:50:39,180 workers waited for Word on their fellow employees still in shock 1805 01:50:39,180 --> 01:50:42,750 at a deadly turn to the final hour of the workweek. And pate 1806 01:50:42,750 --> 01:50:45,660 joins us again. What an awful turn of events. What do we know 1807 01:50:45,660 --> 01:50:47,730 about that firefight with the suspect? 1808 01:50:48,210 --> 01:50:51,750 Will police say that one of the shooting victims was a police 1809 01:50:51,750 --> 01:50:55,470 officer but they say his life was spared by his bulletproof 1810 01:50:55,470 --> 01:50:58,140 vest. They're not saying anything tonight about the 1811 01:50:58,140 --> 01:51:01,020 motive of the gunman who was killed in the shootout with 1812 01:51:01,020 --> 01:51:02,190 police case. All right, 1813 01:51:02,190 --> 01:51:05,100 John C. Dvorak: Pete, thank you. Okay, well, here's what I was 1814 01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:09,690 left out of the first clip, which is the as he continued on 1815 01:51:09,690 --> 01:51:12,420 that is part three 1816 01:51:12,450 --> 01:51:14,700 Unknown: found what they said was a single gunman who was 1817 01:51:14,700 --> 01:51:20,820 subdued and taken into custody. Yeah. 1818 01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:24,000 John C. Dvorak: Who did you didn't I? This was what I was 1819 01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:27,630 hoping for. You didn't notice the difference? 1820 01:51:27,809 --> 01:51:29,849 Adam Curry: Or the the different. I'm a little 1821 01:51:29,849 --> 01:51:34,079 confused. Now. The difference between two and three? You mean? 1822 01:51:34,829 --> 01:51:37,709 Yeah. Let me listen to it again. Don't say anything. 1823 01:51:37,860 --> 01:51:40,620 Unknown: At least six people were rushed to local hospitals. 1824 01:51:40,770 --> 01:51:43,920 One man who was inside saw a shooting victim on a flight of 1825 01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:44,640 stairs. 1826 01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,580 Every shot was says you can be shot and who knows. We don't 1827 01:51:47,580 --> 01:51:50,430 even know she was on a stairway coming up or going down. She was 1828 01:51:50,430 --> 01:51:51,090 on a stairway. 1829 01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:53,610 The city workers in nearby buildings were warned to stay 1830 01:51:53,610 --> 01:51:54,060 away. 1831 01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:56,370 We heard today but we didn't think 1832 01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,610 Adam Curry: before. Didn't they kill the guy? Wasn't he one of 1833 01:51:59,610 --> 01:52:03,300 the victims? Isn't that what I'll listen now? Now this 1834 01:52:03,300 --> 01:52:04,170 probably what is that 1835 01:52:04,170 --> 01:52:08,100 Unknown: close? That close like in proximity of the building. 1836 01:52:08,130 --> 01:52:12,300 This is the most devastating day in the history of Virginia 1837 01:52:12,300 --> 01:52:19,650 Beach. The people involved are friends, co workers, neighbors, 1838 01:52:20,430 --> 01:52:21,150 colleagues, 1839 01:52:21,780 --> 01:52:24,870 as police went room to room to make certain it was over city 1840 01:52:24,870 --> 01:52:28,680 workers waited for Word on their fellow employees still in shock 1841 01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,560 at a deadly turn to the final hour of the workweek. 1842 01:52:31,860 --> 01:52:34,860 And pate joins us again. What an awful turn of events. What more 1843 01:52:34,860 --> 01:52:37,230 do we know about that firefight with the suspect? 1844 01:52:37,710 --> 01:52:41,250 Will police say that one of the shooting victims was a police 1845 01:52:41,250 --> 01:52:44,970 officer but they say his life was spared by his bulletproof 1846 01:52:44,970 --> 01:52:47,640 vest. They're not saying anything tonight about the 1847 01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:50,520 motive of the gunman who was killed in the shootout with 1848 01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:54,870 police. Okay, yeah, there we go. And then this, what they said 1849 01:52:54,870 --> 01:52:58,050 was a single gunman who was subdued and taken into custody. 1850 01:52:58,650 --> 01:53:02,640 Adam Curry: Yeah. And we also, by the way, I 1851 01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:04,230 John C. Dvorak: want to say a couple of things. This was in 1852 01:53:04,230 --> 01:53:08,850 this exact same report. That's crazy. He said the is the same 1853 01:53:08,850 --> 01:53:14,520 reporter. Pete is saying that he was taken into custody in one 1854 01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:17,820 hand and he was shot and killed on the other. And you wonder why 1855 01:53:17,820 --> 01:53:22,320 people think this and then you listen to the mayor talking like 1856 01:53:22,350 --> 01:53:26,280 a robot. And there was a woman there that was talking like a 1857 01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:31,770 robot. You wonder why people get upset with the news media. It 1858 01:53:31,770 --> 01:53:38,070 this just looks like some bullcrap it was he shot or was 1859 01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:39,810 he taken into custody. Eventually the 1860 01:53:39,810 --> 01:53:42,090 Adam Curry: shooting stopped and police were able to confront 1861 01:53:42,090 --> 01:53:45,480 Craddock in an office they broke down the door and engaged him 1862 01:53:45,480 --> 01:53:49,500 with fire when the shooter was subdued. 36 minutes after the 1863 01:53:49,500 --> 01:53:53,010 first call to police went out, offers attempt attempted to 1864 01:53:53,010 --> 01:53:56,490 render aid to save chromatics life He died on the way to a 1865 01:53:56,490 --> 01:54:01,140 nearby hospital. That's the story I have from Whopper 1866 01:54:01,140 --> 01:54:02,580 Whopper Whopper Whopper Whopper that 1867 01:54:02,580 --> 01:54:04,950 John C. Dvorak: would be the way you'd modify this mess. 1868 01:54:05,580 --> 01:54:08,820 Adam Curry: And the guy's name does he have three names? Do we 1869 01:54:08,820 --> 01:54:14,670 have a first middle and last name? No. Duwayne is that is 1870 01:54:14,670 --> 01:54:22,320 first name Dewayne. GW a yne. Dewayne is a is as his as a as 1871 01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:25,980 in Dwayne, as in Dwayne $1. Dwayne 1872 01:54:26,009 --> 01:54:28,979 John C. Dvorak: could. It's often in the black community 1873 01:54:28,979 --> 01:54:32,549 when they use the name Dewayne. Dewayne 1874 01:54:32,970 --> 01:54:35,070 Adam Curry: the shooter was black. Dwayne The shooter was 1875 01:54:35,070 --> 01:54:39,930 black is Dwayne Yeah. And Dewayne. Well, yeah. So when I'm 1876 01:54:39,930 --> 01:54:42,390 reading it, it's like Dewayne, but yeah, it's Dwayne. 1877 01:54:43,170 --> 01:54:45,570 John C. Dvorak: Of course not Dwayne. It's I'm sure it's not 1878 01:54:45,570 --> 01:54:48,810 pronounced Dwayne they the black community has the name Dewayne 1879 01:54:48,810 --> 01:54:50,340 is pronounced. Dewayne. Could 1880 01:54:50,340 --> 01:54:52,410 Adam Curry: you please tell me where I find this community, 1881 01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:54,240 this community that you speak of? 1882 01:54:54,599 --> 01:54:57,599 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I'm living right next to it. Because in 1883 01:54:57,599 --> 01:55:01,289 Oakland, I know a lot of people and they use the word Dewayne 1884 01:55:01,289 --> 01:55:03,869 and then the word Dewayne is very common around here. 1885 01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:07,350 Adam Curry: I went to school with a Dewayne in West Virginia 1886 01:55:07,530 --> 01:55:09,180 to Dwayne Wayne. Yes, 1887 01:55:09,630 --> 01:55:11,760 John C. Dvorak: he was he was cowed by you, whitey. 1888 01:55:14,070 --> 01:55:16,200 Adam Curry: I was the white shadow. What are you talking 1889 01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:21,660 about? It was me and all the black guys. Tyree Dwayne Nelson, 1890 01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:25,950 come on. But you may know you may be right. 1891 01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,220 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it could be the one. But the point is, is 1892 01:55:29,220 --> 01:55:34,950 that taken into custody is not the same as being taken to the 1893 01:55:34,950 --> 01:55:36,390 hospital and dropping dead. 1894 01:55:36,420 --> 01:55:40,380 Adam Curry: Yeah. So you Well, so what you're the way you set 1895 01:55:40,380 --> 01:55:43,830 that up is saying, Well, this looks phony baloney because dot 1896 01:55:43,830 --> 01:55:47,010 dot dot but then what would the reason be? What the What what is 1897 01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:50,490 what agenda needs to be moved forward? Other than it's not 1898 01:55:50,490 --> 01:55:52,830 just crazy white guys who do mass shootings? 1899 01:55:53,220 --> 01:55:57,240 John C. Dvorak: Well, I have no idea. I know it was a botch. In 1900 01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:00,660 terms of the presentation, you can't present a story like this 1901 01:56:00,660 --> 01:56:03,300 and say the guy was taken. And he was, you know, tucked down 1902 01:56:03,300 --> 01:56:05,820 and taken into custody, and then at the end saying was shot and 1903 01:56:05,820 --> 01:56:11,970 killed. It's just my point is that this you can see why people 1904 01:56:11,970 --> 01:56:15,630 get suspicious when you see this report by the same reporter and 1905 01:56:15,630 --> 01:56:18,990 he's botching the story. As you go along. This is network these 1906 01:56:18,990 --> 01:56:22,560 guys get paid a lot of money. This is not like local news, 1907 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,360 where they get in fed all kinds of different things. And they 1908 01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:26,730 have to piece it together because maybe native advertising 1909 01:56:26,730 --> 01:56:30,240 we don't know. This is like the big time and it's just you see, 1910 01:56:30,300 --> 01:56:33,630 you hear this stuff and you just befuddling at least I was 1911 01:56:33,630 --> 01:56:34,650 confused by it. 1912 01:56:35,370 --> 01:56:39,780 Adam Curry: I honestly I kind of tuned out from it. That's what 1913 01:56:39,810 --> 01:56:42,870 happens all the time. Which is why I'm why we got to stay on 1914 01:56:42,870 --> 01:56:45,120 it. Yeah, we got to stay You're right. We got to stay on these 1915 01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:45,480 things. 1916 01:56:45,570 --> 01:56:49,380 John C. Dvorak: Because the idea is you get to blows by and then 1917 01:56:49,380 --> 01:56:53,130 you know you just fall asleep is very somnambulistic. This this 1918 01:56:53,130 --> 01:56:56,160 type of reporting as well. And you have these boring guys. You 1919 01:56:56,160 --> 01:57:01,080 know, they got a microphone in somebody's mouth going. But dark 1920 01:57:01,110 --> 01:57:03,330 days put you to sleep. Of course it does. 1921 01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:07,950 Adam Curry: Well, what I saw as the news broke was oh, there you 1922 01:57:07,950 --> 01:57:12,090 go. White, horrible. George, another Grady White Guy 1923 01:57:12,090 --> 01:57:16,080 Republican Maga. That's what you saw on the social media. And 1924 01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:20,280 then it became then it became apparent that this man is from 1925 01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:24,960 as you would say, the black community. There now and also, 1926 01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:28,380 just in fleeting I remember hearing someone say I'm only 1927 01:57:28,380 --> 01:57:31,890 going to mention his name once never again. That's always a red 1928 01:57:31,890 --> 01:57:34,740 flag to me. Like, are you never gonna mention his name again? 1929 01:57:34,740 --> 01:57:38,130 Okay. But seems like people are dead, John. So I don't know 1930 01:57:38,130 --> 01:57:39,720 what's I don't know. 1931 01:57:39,990 --> 01:57:42,630 John C. Dvorak: I'm not saying it's a false flag. It's just 1932 01:57:42,630 --> 01:57:47,700 seems to be horrible in some funny way. Possible? Well, and I 1933 01:57:47,700 --> 01:57:49,620 don't know. And I agree. I don't know what the point of it would 1934 01:57:49,620 --> 01:57:49,890 be. 1935 01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,110 Adam Curry: How much does Sarah Sanders make speaking of making 1936 01:57:52,110 --> 01:57:56,700 a lot of money? She got beat up in the $184,000 range. Isn't 1937 01:57:56,700 --> 01:58:01,440 that kind of the top scale for someone of her statue in, in 1938 01:58:01,950 --> 01:58:03,900 presidential PR. 1939 01:58:04,530 --> 01:58:06,150 John C. Dvorak: I would guess it would be something like that. 1940 01:58:06,180 --> 01:58:07,260 Well, she should give some 1941 01:58:07,260 --> 01:58:07,980 Adam Curry: of that back. 1942 01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:11,370 Unknown: The President's number one responsibility is to protect 1943 01:58:11,370 --> 01:58:12,060 Americans. 1944 01:58:14,940 --> 01:58:20,310 Adam Curry: Bullshit, Sarah? It is to defend and uphold and 1945 01:58:20,310 --> 01:58:23,580 protect the Constitution of the United States. That is his oath. 1946 01:58:23,580 --> 01:58:27,330 Yes. Yes, protecting the citizens falls under that. But 1947 01:58:27,330 --> 01:58:30,330 that is not the oath and you should know better shame on you. 1948 01:58:31,500 --> 01:58:32,100 Shame. 1949 01:58:32,610 --> 01:58:36,030 John C. Dvorak: Shame. Yes, yes. It'll be when this show is ended 1950 01:58:36,030 --> 01:58:39,420 in 35 years. That will still be a running gag. 1951 01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:41,730 Adam Curry: 35 years are you sure? 1952 01:58:42,930 --> 01:58:46,830 John C. Dvorak: So now I have talking about I consider this a 1953 01:58:46,830 --> 01:58:51,540 nine second clip. This is what I consider. MSNBC is whole problem 1954 01:58:51,540 --> 01:58:57,510 roll up into a kind of just a knot. Is is the sick analysis of 1955 01:58:57,510 --> 01:59:02,190 the situation by Lawrence O'Donnell. 19 most 1956 01:59:02,190 --> 01:59:04,680 Unknown: Americans say they definitely will not vote for 1957 01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:07,290 Donald Trump re election most Americans disapprove of 1958 01:59:07,290 --> 01:59:10,650 President Trump in his job performance. And always have. 1959 01:59:12,870 --> 01:59:15,090 Adam Curry: Especially during that thing, that election thing. 1960 01:59:15,900 --> 01:59:18,480 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. So why are the Democrats why are they even 1961 01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:23,850 concerned over at MSNBC about the 2020 elections, when most 1962 01:59:23,850 --> 01:59:28,560 Americans will not vote for him? Period? And they don't like him. 1963 01:59:29,670 --> 01:59:34,140 So what's the problem? Just get to 2020 Put your person in 1964 01:59:34,140 --> 01:59:38,070 whoever it is. They'll obviously kick his ass. Right? 1965 01:59:38,610 --> 01:59:40,290 Adam Curry: Yeah, but the problem is they don't have that 1966 01:59:40,290 --> 01:59:43,080 someone they have no one they have no one to run matter. 1967 01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:44,640 John C. Dvorak: They hate everyone hates Trump so much 1968 01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:46,110 they can run anyone. 1969 01:59:48,420 --> 01:59:51,300 Adam Curry: It's so insulting to watch this stuff. I know you I 1970 01:59:51,300 --> 01:59:55,170 know. You must hate it to just watch it. I rarely watch it. 1971 01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:59,250 It's really hard to watch these days. And you want you want to 1972 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,690 So now he's going over to the UK. I guess he's doing a do over 1973 02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:07,320 of his of his royal visit, and probably gonna go gloat in 1974 02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:10,770 Theresa Mays face. Intelligent totes. That's what that's not 1975 02:00:10,770 --> 02:00:16,050 the way to do it. Oh, she appears once again Victoria 1976 02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:22,080 Kagan Nudelman. interviewed on the BBC regarding Trump's United 1977 02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:23,640 Kingdom Thruway stop. 1978 02:00:25,410 --> 02:00:28,830 John C. Dvorak: You're telling me that this woman who has been 1979 02:00:28,860 --> 02:00:34,500 out of the scene for X vital know ever since Obama got done 1980 02:00:34,500 --> 02:00:40,200 with? Why is she being interviewed by anybody? Why are 1981 02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:41,460 they interviewing you? 1982 02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:45,840 Adam Curry: Well, I think when you hear this 49 second clip, 1983 02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:49,320 it'll become very apparent, because she says things that I 1984 02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:50,280 never would. 1985 02:00:50,730 --> 02:00:53,460 Unknown: Thank you very much for joining me. What does Trump need 1986 02:00:53,460 --> 02:00:57,660 to get out of this visit? You know, I think he wants to 1987 02:00:57,660 --> 02:01:01,860 demonstrate that he is a statesman, I think he's going to 1988 02:01:01,860 --> 02:01:06,210 enjoy very much his time with the queen. I think he considers 1989 02:01:06,300 --> 02:01:12,510 his own dynasty somewhat royal all of those kinds of things. 1990 02:01:13,020 --> 02:01:17,850 And I hope that when he goes to Portsmouth and then goes on to 1991 02:01:17,850 --> 02:01:25,050 Normandy, he can feel the importance of this very special 1992 02:01:25,050 --> 02:01:32,610 relationship and he will be imbued a bit with the challenge 1993 02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:36,600 of maintaining this liberal world order that so many 1994 02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:40,350 Americans and Brits gave their lives for 1995 02:01:40,470 --> 02:01:43,710 Adam Curry: oh, this is where this this drove me nuts. Oh, 1996 02:01:43,710 --> 02:01:47,370 yeah, this drove me nuts when I heard her say that so he's there 1997 02:01:47,370 --> 02:01:48,120 for D Day. 1998 02:01:49,620 --> 02:01:52,500 John C. Dvorak: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That my father went in the 1999 02:01:52,500 --> 02:01:56,340 Navy in World War Two both my grandfather's might now 2000 02:01:56,370 --> 02:01:58,980 everybody that we know was injured in World War Two 2001 02:01:58,980 --> 02:02:03,210 specifically for the liberate for the liberal New World Order 2002 02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:05,460 Adam Curry: the liberal world order, yet they know they die 2003 02:02:05,460 --> 02:02:08,700 when they died, they died for it. Some people die the world 2004 02:02:08,700 --> 02:02:10,800 liberal world order. Let's listen again, 2005 02:02:11,130 --> 02:02:16,260 Unknown: a bit with the challenge of maintaining this 2006 02:02:16,260 --> 02:02:21,810 liberal world order that so many Americans and Brits gave their 2007 02:02:21,810 --> 02:02:22,470 lives for. 2008 02:02:25,500 --> 02:02:28,140 Adam Curry: Unbelief unbelievable. My one grandfather 2009 02:02:28,140 --> 02:02:32,040 landed in Normandy Beach. The other one was South Pacific. For 2010 02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:35,190 the liberal world order. Somehow I don't think that sounds 2011 02:02:35,190 --> 02:02:36,420 historically correct. 2012 02:02:36,540 --> 02:02:39,060 Unknown: So liberal world order is Nudelman. 2013 02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:44,100 John C. Dvorak: Unbelievable. And that's that's an insult 2014 02:02:44,100 --> 02:02:47,850 actually, it's a huge insult insult to the armed forces that 2015 02:02:47,850 --> 02:02:49,050 fought in World War Two. 2016 02:02:50,190 --> 02:02:52,800 Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. 2017 02:02:54,630 --> 02:02:59,220 Adam Curry: Isn't that crazy? The very 2018 02:02:59,220 --> 02:03:01,470 John C. Dvorak: crazy but that's what you do you do. You do the 2019 02:03:01,470 --> 02:03:05,430 Donny Deutsch. You do a little rebranding words around a little 2020 02:03:05,430 --> 02:03:05,940 bit, 2021 02:03:06,180 --> 02:03:07,440 Adam Curry: but a bing bada boom, bada 2022 02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:09,900 John C. Dvorak: bada that Assange is the one who hacked 2023 02:03:09,900 --> 02:03:12,810 the DNC computer somehow that's right. 2024 02:03:12,810 --> 02:03:15,690 Adam Curry: We died for the liberal world order is like what 2025 02:03:15,690 --> 02:03:17,130 what's your question slave? 2026 02:03:17,460 --> 02:03:20,280 Unknown: I'm gonna show my school by donation to no agenda. 2027 02:03:20,310 --> 02:03:22,980 I imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd 2028 02:03:22,980 --> 02:03:23,460 be fun 2029 02:03:30,870 --> 02:03:32,910 John C. Dvorak: as you would the liberal world order is given us 2030 02:03:32,910 --> 02:03:38,520 for today, starting with Baron Lanigan, no barren Atlantic and 2031 02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:43,140 $100 Sir Chris Gray of the Isle of Wight. 888 He's got a 2032 02:03:43,140 --> 02:03:45,780 birthday of some sort coming up in his day. That's 2033 02:03:45,780 --> 02:03:46,620 Adam Curry: right. That's right. 2034 02:03:46,650 --> 02:03:51,180 John C. Dvorak: Devon would 6190 in Elko, Nevada. He needs a de 2035 02:03:51,180 --> 02:03:57,480 douching okeydoke you've been de deuced putting some mental 2036 02:03:57,480 --> 02:04:00,450 health climate at the end for people with Crohn's disease. 2037 02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:07,470 Yes. Good. Christopher Depp Georgetown New York 6119 first 2038 02:04:07,470 --> 02:04:09,570 time donor another dude, this is the first time 2039 02:04:10,980 --> 02:04:13,560 Adam Curry: you've been de deuced that's the first time 2040 02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:14,250 gonna show 2041 02:04:16,470 --> 02:04:20,700 John C. Dvorak: your daddy cast 6119 Which, by the way 6190 was 2042 02:04:20,700 --> 02:04:24,930 the gimmick donation for this show? And we got four people 2043 02:04:24,930 --> 02:04:28,740 that that thought it was worthwhile. Here's an A no 2044 02:04:28,740 --> 02:04:30,810 Marilyn Monroe standoffs. 2045 02:04:33,570 --> 02:04:36,060 Adam Curry: I didn't understand the Marilyn Monroe send off. 2046 02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:40,200 John C. Dvorak: It was the birthday. Oh, and she'd be 93 If 2047 02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:43,770 you could imagine. I thought it was funny. But nobody ever 2048 02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:47,160 Adam Curry: whenever you open up about this day in history, and 2049 02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:49,860 then you know I can just send your urine wiki PDM link. 2050 02:04:51,510 --> 02:04:53,580 John C. Dvorak: What was it? Farmers Almanac? 2051 02:04:53,700 --> 02:04:56,820 Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. The Farmers Almanac. Yeah, I think 2052 02:04:56,820 --> 02:04:59,100 it should have just focused on Marilyn Monroe. It's like too 2053 02:04:59,100 --> 02:04:59,970 many things in there. 2054 02:05:00,690 --> 02:05:03,150 John C. Dvorak: maybe when I'm panicked. 2055 02:05:05,279 --> 02:05:07,439 Adam Curry: I can. And I know you're not you're not you're 2056 02:05:07,439 --> 02:05:13,079 telling the truth. It's going to show 2057 02:05:13,380 --> 02:05:14,880 John C. Dvorak: that we have besides your wedding, which 2058 02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:18,360 wasn't really a gimmick, but to Glasgow was the Fibonacci 2059 02:05:18,360 --> 02:05:22,740 number. The best gimmicks, the best ideas for go nation 2060 02:05:22,740 --> 02:05:25,680 segments. I will say this for people who are reluctant to 2061 02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:29,910 bring it up. It's when one of the producers comes up with some 2062 02:05:29,910 --> 02:05:33,750 screwball idea that's so off the wall like the Fibonacci number. 2063 02:05:33,750 --> 02:05:36,330 Yeah, that stuff usually works really well usually works like a 2064 02:05:36,330 --> 02:05:42,540 champ. I can kind of put the wordage around it and maybe sell 2065 02:05:42,540 --> 02:05:46,170 it a little bit but coming up with it from scratch, newsletter 2066 02:05:46,170 --> 02:05:46,860 after newsletters I 2067 02:05:47,340 --> 02:05:51,090 Adam Curry: can I can make a recommendation. You can to the 2068 02:05:51,090 --> 02:05:54,030 New York to the newsletter department. Yeah, why don't you 2069 02:05:54,030 --> 02:05:56,760 tell people that if they appreciate the work, they should 2070 02:05:56,820 --> 02:06:00,330 send some value for it. I've done that. It doesn't work. 2071 02:06:00,660 --> 02:06:05,400 John C. Dvorak: It works about as well as the long essays All 2072 02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:08,610 right, I mean, if I put actual content in the newsletter list 2073 02:06:08,610 --> 02:06:10,110 I'm obliged to do by law 2074 02:06:10,140 --> 02:06:15,870 Adam Curry: a it goes into spam. Oh my god, we have a promotional 2075 02:06:15,870 --> 02:06:19,440 thing with with content spam spam spam alert. All right, the 2076 02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:21,150 Google say spam 2077 02:06:23,430 --> 02:06:26,070 John C. Dvorak: that's exactly how it works. All right, so we 2078 02:06:26,070 --> 02:06:33,330 have sir daddy cast 6119 for kind of commenting on the puppy 2079 02:06:33,330 --> 02:06:36,240 eating the kitten picture that was in the newsletter if you 2080 02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:41,160 missed that you missed out. Sir Joshua Thibodeau 6119 haven't 2081 02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:44,550 donated since my knighting he needs another Dinis secondary D 2082 02:06:44,550 --> 02:06:48,330 douching. D Do 2083 02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:52,680 Adam Curry: you would like some human resource karma for his 2084 02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:55,320 wife and himself. We'll put that at the end of course. Yes. We 2085 02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:57,420 John C. Dvorak: have some money Yeah. Was the other one I say 2086 02:06:57,420 --> 02:07:02,850 we're going to do I forgot. Oh, yeah, the Crohn's disease good 2087 02:07:03,210 --> 02:07:08,340 karma. Matthew cold para cone or para para cone. It's pronounced 2088 02:07:08,340 --> 02:07:14,160 that Matthew called Paragon 6119. A Pete fetter. There he 2089 02:07:14,610 --> 02:07:15,960 better Ichi Federici 2090 02:07:16,259 --> 02:07:19,769 Adam Curry: in his jobs Karma is a job offer on Monday so yeah, 2091 02:07:19,799 --> 02:07:21,269 we'll we'll roll that out for you. 2092 02:07:21,929 --> 02:07:27,479 John C. Dvorak: Leo. Coker probably could be co chair but 2093 02:07:27,479 --> 02:07:30,299 coke I think to do 143 goes down fast. 2094 02:07:30,330 --> 02:07:32,220 Adam Curry: He says something interesting here Australian 2095 02:07:32,220 --> 02:07:34,290 property bubble about to pop 2096 02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:37,710 John C. Dvorak: stocking up on popcorn 2097 02:07:37,830 --> 02:07:39,630 Adam Curry: kiss we'll be sitting back kicking back 2098 02:07:39,630 --> 02:07:41,130 relaxing and watching All right. 2099 02:07:41,190 --> 02:07:46,980 John C. Dvorak: Let's be short. James Scott 51 wants to 2100 02:07:46,980 --> 02:07:50,490 congratulate you on your wedding Q II find interesting clip we'll 2101 02:07:50,490 --> 02:07:52,890 look at that later. Obviously can't do it now. He 2102 02:07:52,890 --> 02:07:55,200 Adam Curry: does say you guys have been a godsend and a very 2103 02:07:55,200 --> 02:07:57,960 rough year for me personally only wish I could donate more. 2104 02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:01,980 No, we thank you. Whatever. It's whatever you can you can support 2105 02:08:01,980 --> 02:08:06,120 us with this good and I'm happy that that we've been there for 2106 02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:06,930 you this year. 2107 02:08:08,010 --> 02:08:10,740 John C. Dvorak: Now $50 donors name and location starting with 2108 02:08:10,890 --> 02:08:15,210 my Ichi kid a Galois over here in San Francisco. Michael 2109 02:08:15,210 --> 02:08:20,460 Janoski Esmeralda ghac. Cassidy Eastwood's sir Eric VM, the 2110 02:08:20,460 --> 02:08:24,840 Baron of the valley. Jeremy Cartwright in Rockford Illinois, 2111 02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:30,210 Andrew oxen ham. Who's I would expect to be in the UK but he's 2112 02:08:30,210 --> 02:08:33,960 not easily in the United States Bradley leaden and that's it. So 2113 02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:37,110 we got a very short list here. Thanks to the fabulous 2114 02:08:37,110 --> 02:08:42,210 promotions well and ask for the did Mary Marilyn Monroe only she 2115 02:08:42,210 --> 02:08:44,640 got nothing so it probably wouldn't have done that. Well. 2116 02:08:45,960 --> 02:08:49,440 Adam Curry: I said it was only a suggestion I do not. I don't 2117 02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:51,690 know how to run the I've run the production department. I don't 2118 02:08:51,690 --> 02:08:57,090 run the newsletter department editorial. What was nice to see 2119 02:08:57,090 --> 02:09:00,870 is that we got a lot of people coming back and requesting D 2120 02:09:00,870 --> 02:09:04,320 douching. Since they haven't donated in a quote unquote while 2121 02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:08,640 but some of them the significant while so yeah low today but I'm 2122 02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:10,950 also really pleased I'm pleased to see that people are still 2123 02:09:10,950 --> 02:09:13,530 here and they still benefit from the value we give them in the 2124 02:09:13,530 --> 02:09:17,430 value for value system that we have created here together 11 In 2125 02:09:17,430 --> 02:09:21,900 our 11th season. I'm like saying this our 11 season now on the 2126 02:09:21,900 --> 02:09:25,800 air you were syndication times to baby and I'd also like to 2127 02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:29,520 express great gratitude to everyone who donated under $50. 2128 02:09:29,730 --> 02:09:33,240 We cut that off there that's where people can send donations 2129 02:09:33,240 --> 02:09:36,660 anonymously and also we do have our some of our programs, our 2130 02:09:36,780 --> 02:09:40,290 subscription programs which help they do help a lot so if you can 2131 02:09:40,380 --> 02:09:43,200 sign up for one of those in addition to anything you want to 2132 02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:46,590 send him value in a one off, it's highly appreciated. You can 2133 02:09:46,590 --> 02:09:47,610 find out all about it 2134 02:09:47,610 --> 02:09:51,660 Unknown: at VO rec.org/n A now 2135 02:09:51,690 --> 02:09:54,390 Adam Curry: multiple Karmis to take care of so let's do all 2136 02:09:59,010 --> 02:10:03,150 Unknown: jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs 2137 02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:17,340 Adam Curry: well, we got a second of June 2019, a brand new 2138 02:10:17,340 --> 02:10:18,990 month and we got a couple of birthdays that we'll be 2139 02:10:18,990 --> 02:10:23,310 celebrating Bob Well says Happy Birthday to his wife, bi Lisa, 2140 02:10:23,670 --> 02:10:26,640 like Melissa with a beat. No. But Alyssa There you go. She 2141 02:10:26,670 --> 02:10:29,880 celebrates her birthday today, sir of course Dre also 2142 02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:33,270 celebrating his birthday and Eric Rosen Boehm will be 50 2143 02:10:33,270 --> 02:10:37,350 years old tomorrow, and Devon Woods celebrates his 19th on 2144 02:10:37,350 --> 02:10:40,140 June 4. Congratulations. Happy birthday for everybody here at 2145 02:10:40,140 --> 02:10:42,180 the best podcast in the universe. 2146 02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:51,150 Unknown: Don't get around douchebag producer is we are. 2147 02:11:04,050 --> 02:11:07,260 Adam Curry: Today, one title literally changes that is Sir 2148 02:11:07,260 --> 02:11:10,770 Mike Harrington. You heard him earlier and he has changed his 2149 02:11:10,770 --> 02:11:15,960 title to Sir compost Ranger. And we welcome these title changes, 2150 02:11:16,260 --> 02:11:20,190 for whatever reason and always makes propagating the formula 2151 02:11:20,190 --> 02:11:22,740 that much better. When you have a snappy name. Make sure to add 2152 02:11:22,740 --> 02:11:26,370 it to your Twitter server, compost Ranger. No nice things. 2153 02:11:26,970 --> 02:11:32,550 But we do have a list of our meetups reminders that today, 2154 02:11:32,940 --> 02:11:36,450 Sarasota, Florida, we'll be meeting up people are tweeting 2155 02:11:36,450 --> 02:11:38,820 out pictures of these meetups and some of them are you know 2156 02:11:38,820 --> 02:11:41,940 there's smaller ones because it's just the first time in the 2157 02:11:41,940 --> 02:11:47,160 location. Everybody seems to have a good time. It's it's 2158 02:11:47,460 --> 02:11:51,900 mostly thinking about this some comparison to now I was watching 2159 02:11:51,900 --> 02:11:55,140 a flash mob the other day from that you don't see them anymore. 2160 02:11:55,140 --> 02:11:59,670 2015 I think was Australia. And it always makes me smile to see 2161 02:11:59,670 --> 02:12:03,180 people who have rehearsed at home and don't know each other 2162 02:12:03,180 --> 02:12:06,690 but have have participated in something come together and then 2163 02:12:06,690 --> 02:12:09,900 it just all kind of flows and they're all dancing and the 2164 02:12:09,900 --> 02:12:12,240 coordinated moves and gives you a great feeling. You know what I 2165 02:12:12,240 --> 02:12:13,650 mean? Is that weird what I'm saying? 2166 02:12:13,679 --> 02:12:15,809 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it is weird, but at the same time, I 2167 02:12:15,809 --> 02:12:19,049 know what you mean. And it's different. Because after the 2168 02:12:19,049 --> 02:12:21,779 flashmob those people never talk to each other again most people 2169 02:12:21,779 --> 02:12:25,979 who go no agenda meetups actually make friends and stand 2170 02:12:25,979 --> 02:12:28,379 contact for a long time. That's what happens in Michigan. 2171 02:12:28,680 --> 02:12:30,690 Adam Curry: And I think that's a moment though when when they 2172 02:12:30,690 --> 02:12:35,160 come together. It's like oh, hey, did we all kind of are open 2173 02:12:35,160 --> 02:12:38,550 minded and we you know, we listen to the same show. We have 2174 02:12:38,550 --> 02:12:42,420 different opinions, but it seems to work very well. And exactly 2175 02:12:42,420 --> 02:12:45,540 as you said, people like to stay in contact afterwards and do 2176 02:12:45,540 --> 02:12:48,540 repeat meetups. So today Sarasota, Florida, June 6, 2177 02:12:48,540 --> 02:12:53,160 Seattle, sevens Toronto June 8, Oklahoma City, Knoxville, 2178 02:12:53,160 --> 02:13:00,120 Tennessee, June 9. And here's what's cool. I think that URL of 2179 02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:03,360 Tennessee Sir Patrick Coble is at the Knoxville meetup on the 2180 02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:08,070 ninth. Then he joins us on Wednesday the 12th in London for 2181 02:13:08,070 --> 02:13:13,890 the meetup they're twins could be shoot when you look at that 2182 02:13:13,890 --> 02:13:16,230 guy could be triplets. He's all over the world. Mister 2183 02:13:16,230 --> 02:13:19,980 penetration tester? Copenhagen spa 2184 02:13:19,980 --> 02:13:22,860 John C. Dvorak: spy. You're a handler new handler? Well, he's 2185 02:13:22,860 --> 02:13:24,180 got ex military. 2186 02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:26,580 Adam Curry: Well, let me tell you this. He's handling me very 2187 02:13:26,580 --> 02:13:31,230 well with that. Kentucky bourbon. doesn't say anything 2188 02:13:31,230 --> 02:13:35,490 you want Earl. We have the 15th of June it's 2189 02:13:35,490 --> 02:13:37,290 John C. Dvorak: true of chromatograph go on 2190 02:13:37,350 --> 02:13:40,950 Adam Curry: Copenhagen. Then we have the Fourth of July Seattle, 2191 02:13:40,950 --> 02:13:43,380 Washington once again. That'll be an interesting one. And maybe 2192 02:13:43,380 --> 02:13:46,290 a lot of people who knows but we'll find out Atlanta Georgia 2193 02:13:46,650 --> 02:13:52,800 on July 13 And you can find out locales you can find out more 2194 02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:58,170 information sign up yourself at No agenda@meetups.com Please 2195 02:13:58,170 --> 02:14:01,470 have a look at that. And I look forward to seeing everybody in 2196 02:14:01,620 --> 02:14:04,560 London that should be a lot of fun. Depending on who could make 2197 02:14:04,860 --> 02:14:07,020 John C. Dvorak: a date on this again this gives us some rundown 2198 02:14:07,620 --> 02:14:10,530 Adam Curry: the 12 the Wednesday the 12th of June so that seems 2199 02:14:10,530 --> 02:14:16,710 those coming Yeah, it's in less than two weeks. No, okay. Yeah, 2200 02:14:16,740 --> 02:14:18,540 John C. Dvorak: we're going next Sunday Father's Day. 2201 02:14:19,980 --> 02:14:22,500 Adam Curry: I you know, I really don't know is it I think so. It 2202 02:14:22,500 --> 02:14:23,610 could be or is 2203 02:14:23,610 --> 02:14:26,040 John C. Dvorak: the third the Father which would chat right 2204 02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:28,860 without me having to go to the computer jasm Should just bring 2205 02:14:28,860 --> 02:14:29,790 up the right email troll 2206 02:14:29,790 --> 02:14:33,480 Adam Curry: room. Yeah, sure. All rooms so the trolls need to 2207 02:14:33,480 --> 02:14:37,470 tell us when it may be a messy promotions for it. It's the 2208 02:14:37,470 --> 02:14:39,090 third Sunday in 2209 02:14:39,240 --> 02:14:41,070 John C. Dvorak: a Thursday will be the Sunday after you get 2210 02:14:41,070 --> 02:14:41,490 back. 2211 02:14:43,110 --> 02:14:48,930 Adam Curry: No, because we're going to Portugal. On okay, 2212 02:14:49,260 --> 02:15:02,730 we're finally taking a four day honeymoon live in large Okay, 2213 02:15:02,970 --> 02:15:03,840 all right. Well, I 2214 02:15:04,650 --> 02:15:05,940 John C. Dvorak: got a couple more. 2215 02:15:07,259 --> 02:15:10,319 Adam Curry: You can't be done. I gotta I gotta throw some stuff 2216 02:15:10,319 --> 02:15:16,559 your way first. You were the one who reported on Lori Lightfoot, 2217 02:15:16,559 --> 02:15:20,579 the new mayor. Chicago. 2218 02:15:22,230 --> 02:15:24,780 John C. Dvorak: Do you remember? Right? Yeah. Then in fact 2219 02:15:24,780 --> 02:15:26,940 Adam Curry: that you put the wrong picture of the wrong 2220 02:15:26,970 --> 02:15:27,480 woman. 2221 02:15:27,509 --> 02:15:30,509 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I used the wrong picture newsletter. It's a 2222 02:15:30,509 --> 02:15:33,179 long it's a picture of her at a distance. And they looked 2223 02:15:33,179 --> 02:15:37,559 similar from the, you know, 1000 feet away, but Well, I got I 2224 02:15:37,559 --> 02:15:40,889 got, I got butt slammed for doing that wrong picture. 2225 02:15:41,309 --> 02:15:44,369 Adam Curry: Well, at first, at first glance, I think we both 2226 02:15:44,369 --> 02:15:49,259 kind of like now, what is this woman going to do? Was she she's 2227 02:15:49,259 --> 02:15:54,209 going to run Chicago. Okay. Then I heard her talk. And this is on 2228 02:15:54,209 --> 02:16:00,299 the Chicago way podcast with the guy's name. John Cass is a good 2229 02:16:00,299 --> 02:16:03,899 show if you've if you're from Chicago, which have not. And he 2230 02:16:03,899 --> 02:16:06,629 asked her about the Chicago way and what she was going to do. 2231 02:16:06,899 --> 02:16:10,829 And I liked her answer. She may be extremely good for the city. 2232 02:16:11,189 --> 02:16:13,709 Talked about you define the Chicago way? 2233 02:16:14,099 --> 02:16:17,549 Unknown: What is the how you define it? Well, I 2234 02:16:17,550 --> 02:16:23,580 think of the Chicago way as this notion that you have to give to 2235 02:16:23,580 --> 02:16:28,500 get that it's it's understood that in order to actually get 2236 02:16:28,500 --> 02:16:33,270 access to basic city resources and services, you got to go 2237 02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:38,640 through this Kabuki dance with aldermen kiss the ring, make the 2238 02:16:38,640 --> 02:16:44,430 donation, on and on, hire the kid, on and on and on. That's 2239 02:16:44,430 --> 02:16:48,930 the old Chicago way. I think the new Chicago way that I'm trying 2240 02:16:48,930 --> 02:16:53,220 to forge is one where if you're a resident, and you're a 2241 02:16:53,220 --> 02:16:58,830 taxpayer, you're entitled to great services. Every watch, no 2242 02:16:58,830 --> 02:17:01,200 matter where you live, no matter your zip code, no matter who, 2243 02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:05,580 you know, you don't have to go through these extra steps to be 2244 02:17:05,580 --> 02:17:09,060 able to get access to basic city services. And and I think this 2245 02:17:09,060 --> 02:17:14,280 is a lesson from the Burke indictment. The city workers are 2246 02:17:14,280 --> 02:17:19,200 actually able to do their jobs without worrying about political 2247 02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:24,120 backlash, because they haven't pleased the local fiefdom and 2248 02:17:24,120 --> 02:17:28,260 the local Aldermen. That's the city that I government that I 2249 02:17:28,260 --> 02:17:30,930 aspire to, but I think we can get there. It's going to take 2250 02:17:30,930 --> 02:17:33,150 time, but I think we can get there. 2251 02:17:33,780 --> 02:17:36,600 Adam Curry: I don't know much about Chicago politics, but I 2252 02:17:36,630 --> 02:17:41,760 saw the series boss at one point with John Goodman, and all these 2253 02:17:41,790 --> 02:17:44,910 aldermen and these Council dudes and everything and she's going 2254 02:17:44,910 --> 02:17:48,510 to break that up. That seems like a pretty tall order. 2255 02:17:50,400 --> 02:17:55,950 John C. Dvorak: Well, it's well established. Dead resistance 2256 02:17:56,370 --> 02:17:59,880 would probably be quite high to it because people like it. 2257 02:18:00,660 --> 02:18:04,500 Chicago is Chicago away. I mean to Chicago away, but in a 2258 02:18:04,500 --> 02:18:08,310 nutshell is when you get pulled over for speeding. You hand over 2259 02:18:08,310 --> 02:18:12,240 your driver's license in a sealed in this little sealed 2260 02:18:12,240 --> 02:18:15,120 thing is like not just the license bear and in the back is 2261 02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:19,830 $100 bill. That still works. I believe so. 2262 02:18:21,389 --> 02:18:26,399 Adam Curry: I just flashed my PBA card from 1987. I found that 2263 02:18:26,399 --> 02:18:26,999 the other day. 2264 02:18:28,410 --> 02:18:29,310 John C. Dvorak: You are a professional 2265 02:18:29,309 --> 02:18:32,519 Adam Curry: bowler Yes. Right now the police Bunnell 2266 02:18:32,549 --> 02:18:33,989 Benevolent Association. 2267 02:18:34,020 --> 02:18:36,060 John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah, they would they would they would 2268 02:18:36,060 --> 02:18:38,640 laugh at you did. Let's just 100 day. Undo. 2269 02:18:40,290 --> 02:18:43,350 Adam Curry: Oh, curry. Wait, were you on MTV once? That's 200 2270 02:18:43,350 --> 02:18:48,090 years, bro. That's no good. So we'll go from one city to my two 2271 02:18:48,090 --> 02:18:51,150 other favorite cities. Let's hop off that Armageddon Cliff first. 2272 02:18:55,080 --> 02:18:58,560 San Francisco homeless have a new gambits, you 2273 02:18:58,559 --> 02:19:01,019 Unknown: know passing by these things. If you did not know to 2274 02:19:01,019 --> 02:19:03,899 look up, you probably wouldn't even notice that they were here. 2275 02:19:04,139 --> 02:19:06,239 But neighbors tell us that this all started right around 2276 02:19:06,239 --> 02:19:09,029 February when one of these tree houses went up. And then a 2277 02:19:09,029 --> 02:19:14,159 couple months later, now we're up to five or six of them. Hello 2278 02:19:14,189 --> 02:19:17,879 here in Fremont. ingenuity and desperation have brought us to 2279 02:19:17,879 --> 02:19:21,959 this. Half a dozen tree houses nestled high up into branches of 2280 02:19:21,959 --> 02:19:25,349 a row of eucalyptus trees in an industrial park, where they have 2281 02:19:25,349 --> 02:19:29,189 been for months. Getting into the structures is no simple 2282 02:19:29,189 --> 02:19:32,519 task. Some of them are three storeys high. This one has a 2283 02:19:32,519 --> 02:19:35,609 makeshift ladder, albeit with rungs sparsely attached, 2284 02:19:35,639 --> 02:19:39,059 climbing up is a lot like solving a puzzle. Once inside, 2285 02:19:39,089 --> 02:19:41,669 you get a better look at the craftsmanship. Whoever did it 2286 02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:45,089 likely has some experience that construction and access to power 2287 02:19:45,089 --> 02:19:48,899 drills across beams support beams underneath and support 2288 02:19:48,899 --> 02:19:52,919 straps above trash. There's a spot for that two. Neighbors 2289 02:19:52,919 --> 02:19:56,189 tell us they use scrap wood from nearby discarded pallets. The 2290 02:19:56,189 --> 02:20:00,719 result is remarkable. But it looks like They won't be here 2291 02:20:00,719 --> 02:20:03,569 for long. Cruz has spent the past few days trimming and 2292 02:20:03,569 --> 02:20:06,779 cutting off the lower limbs and they are closing it. I think 2293 02:20:06,779 --> 02:20:10,169 it's actually what people would benefit from if we have the 2294 02:20:10,169 --> 02:20:13,379 right knowledge of trees and whatnot. 2295 02:20:13,650 --> 02:20:16,500 Adam Curry: Now there's a typical Fremont resident 2296 02:20:17,160 --> 02:20:19,320 John C. Dvorak: tree. But yeah, let's start by mentioning 2297 02:20:19,350 --> 02:20:21,300 Fremont is not San Francisco. 2298 02:20:21,330 --> 02:20:24,330 Adam Curry: That's correct. I take that back. I take that 2299 02:20:24,900 --> 02:20:27,810 John C. Dvorak: less opportunity because not that many trees left 2300 02:20:27,810 --> 02:20:31,080 in San Francisco because of the human excrement has got too much 2301 02:20:31,080 --> 02:20:32,010 nitrogen and I 2302 02:20:32,370 --> 02:20:34,500 Adam Curry: love the treehouse idea though. 2303 02:20:35,190 --> 02:20:37,620 John C. Dvorak: Well, it's just a visit this the next step to 2304 02:20:37,620 --> 02:20:39,240 shanty town which is where we're headed. 2305 02:20:39,390 --> 02:20:43,980 Adam Curry: Well, that's my next clip. This is Los Angeles. And 2306 02:20:45,060 --> 02:20:50,370 it was fun to see Dr. Drew Pinsky. Show up and talk about 2307 02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:53,760 his fear, his fear for the city he lives in 2308 02:20:53,790 --> 02:20:56,400 Unknown: we have a complete breakdown of the basic needs of 2309 02:20:56,400 --> 02:21:00,000 civilization in Los Angeles. Right now. We have the three 2310 02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:04,890 prongs of airborne disease tuberculosis is exploding Roden 2311 02:21:04,890 --> 02:21:06,900 bore we are one of the only major cities in the country does 2312 02:21:06,900 --> 02:21:09,150 not have a rodent control program and sanitation has 2313 02:21:09,150 --> 02:21:12,060 broken down. We had a typhus outbreak last November we will 2314 02:21:12,060 --> 02:21:14,940 have a typhus outbreak this summer. I'm hearing from experts 2315 02:21:14,940 --> 02:21:18,780 that bubonic plague is likely it's already here, under the red 2316 02:21:18,780 --> 02:21:22,020 fleas. And then now finally we have this, this oral fecal route 2317 02:21:22,020 --> 02:21:26,670 contamination, which is typhoid fever, three cases one confirm, 2318 02:21:26,790 --> 02:21:31,230 probably three. This is unbelievable. I can't believe I 2319 02:21:31,230 --> 02:21:34,590 live in a city where this is not third world at Laura, this is 2320 02:21:34,620 --> 02:21:38,160 medieval third world countries are insulted if they are accused 2321 02:21:38,160 --> 02:21:42,060 of being like this. No one city on earth tolerate this, the 2322 02:21:42,060 --> 02:21:46,470 entire population is at risk, then God forbid of measles. This 2323 02:21:46,470 --> 02:21:49,470 is a population that sub optimally immunize the measles 2324 02:21:49,470 --> 02:21:52,740 gets in, I just have an image of myself on my knees in the gutter 2325 02:21:52,740 --> 02:21:55,650 attending to people because this is this summer is likely to be a 2326 02:21:55,650 --> 02:21:58,500 very profound problem. And there's a very bizarre thing 2327 02:21:58,500 --> 02:22:01,530 going on where the government is somehow insisting that housing 2328 02:22:01,530 --> 02:22:03,990 is the problem when in fact we have chronic mental illness we 2329 02:22:03,990 --> 02:22:06,780 have addiction we have people don't want to leave the streets. 2330 02:22:06,840 --> 02:22:09,750 They they literally won't take the housing if we give it to 2331 02:22:09,750 --> 02:22:12,450 them. And that's the population that's vulnerable and it's going 2332 02:22:12,450 --> 02:22:16,350 to get so Ill this summer. It scares me for their well being. 2333 02:22:16,500 --> 02:22:20,190 I listen, I've learned need your help. I want to to pierce their 2334 02:22:20,190 --> 02:22:23,460 shield of qualified immunity so we can go after them for 2335 02:22:23,460 --> 02:22:26,970 reckless negligence. This is disgusting. It is reckless 2336 02:22:26,970 --> 02:22:29,070 negligence, and we have to have a solution to this 2337 02:22:29,250 --> 02:22:30,570 Adam Curry: bubonic plague. 2338 02:22:33,690 --> 02:22:35,910 John C. Dvorak: Well, there seems to be some sort of 2339 02:22:36,570 --> 02:22:40,320 competition between Los Angeles and San Francisco never stops 2340 02:22:40,320 --> 02:22:41,250 its levels. 2341 02:22:41,640 --> 02:22:43,770 Adam Curry: They just they keep wanting to win, don't they? 2342 02:22:43,950 --> 02:22:46,770 John C. Dvorak: And I would say that Los Angeles has an edge 2343 02:22:49,350 --> 02:22:53,790 they have a I mean, it's they got divorced Brawley so they 2344 02:22:53,790 --> 02:22:57,540 have it's more like Fremont coincidently in terms of it's 2345 02:22:57,570 --> 02:23:00,300 the way it is is the city San Francisco's more centralized 2346 02:23:00,300 --> 02:23:05,070 more like an old fashioned place so it's just different but yeah, 2347 02:23:05,100 --> 02:23:06,570 I think LA is a disaster 2348 02:23:07,530 --> 02:23:10,140 Adam Curry: well California in general in that regard, 2349 02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:12,660 John C. Dvorak: Democrats run the place and this is the way 2350 02:23:12,660 --> 02:23:16,980 they operate they can't say no everybody's you know, oh god you 2351 02:23:16,980 --> 02:23:19,590 know you might insult the person no don't don't do not no no 2352 02:23:19,590 --> 02:23:23,250 don't no let him Let him drugs or okay I think that what I'm 2353 02:23:23,250 --> 02:23:26,520 shooting Yeah, no no, no don't shoot up the kid No, no. Okay. 2354 02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:28,020 Yeah can shoot just shoot yourself up 2355 02:23:28,650 --> 02:23:31,680 Adam Curry: with Dr. Wood Dr. Drew said is I prescribed to 2356 02:23:31,680 --> 02:23:37,740 that as I think we've talked about on the show is this the 2357 02:23:37,740 --> 02:23:41,670 government's in cities the same in Austin. Home we need 2358 02:23:41,670 --> 02:23:45,360 affordable housing homelessness now. You need to stop allowing 2359 02:23:45,360 --> 02:23:49,350 people to beg for money everywhere and do drugs publicly 2360 02:23:49,350 --> 02:23:55,680 in the in in the out in the open stop that first. This is a 2361 02:23:55,680 --> 02:24:00,960 lifestyle choice. It's it's not just homelessness or 2362 02:24:00,960 --> 02:24:05,820 unaffordable housing. It is complete lack of wanting to do 2363 02:24:05,820 --> 02:24:08,940 it that this is their life. And if you're on drugs, you know 2364 02:24:08,970 --> 02:24:13,080 your life looks pretty good. When you get your whatever you 2365 02:24:13,080 --> 02:24:16,440 need. Until it doesn't then you go stand on the corner get some 2366 02:24:16,440 --> 02:24:21,030 money, rinse repeat. But for some reason we can't bring 2367 02:24:21,030 --> 02:24:24,990 ourselves to look the facts in the face. I'm saying we here in 2368 02:24:24,990 --> 02:24:25,560 Austin 2369 02:24:27,360 --> 02:24:29,670 John C. Dvorak: because you've selected a bunch of Yeah, 2370 02:24:29,700 --> 02:24:33,930 douchebags. Totally which bag Democrat? Yes. No offense to the 2371 02:24:33,930 --> 02:24:38,070 Democrats at large. I listen to the show, but come on. The mayor 2372 02:24:38,100 --> 02:24:39,900 when you're gonna get a clue about this. 2373 02:24:40,020 --> 02:24:42,540 Adam Curry: Mayor Adler. Well, you know what, that's the 2374 02:24:42,540 --> 02:24:47,580 problem. People don't care. And it's the same that I saw in San 2375 02:24:47,580 --> 02:24:50,370 Francisco. I didn't see it in LA as much when I was there but San 2376 02:24:50,370 --> 02:24:54,240 Francisco. I stepped over the same three people coming out of 2377 02:24:54,240 --> 02:24:57,000 my apartment every single morning. I didn't like it at a 2378 02:24:57,000 --> 02:25:00,600 certain point like this is not okay. People have They don't 2379 02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:04,950 care anymore. They just don't care. They don't care. Do you 2380 02:25:04,950 --> 02:25:07,440 really care, John? I mean, seriously, you care? I don't 2381 02:25:07,440 --> 02:25:11,760 care. I care. I'm a caring guy. Yeah, but you don't you don't 2382 02:25:11,760 --> 02:25:14,220 care to do anything about it. You're not protesting, 2383 02:25:15,000 --> 02:25:17,100 John C. Dvorak: doing this podcast and that's something I 2384 02:25:17,100 --> 02:25:23,940 believe not forced. It's not much random kind of public 2385 02:25:23,940 --> 02:25:26,070 benefit podcasting show. 2386 02:25:27,930 --> 02:25:29,700 Unknown: Take that to the bank. Okay, 2387 02:25:29,730 --> 02:25:31,530 John C. Dvorak: public benefit podcast. 2388 02:25:31,740 --> 02:25:34,890 Adam Curry: That's you got it, where the C stands for caring. 2389 02:25:35,130 --> 02:25:37,140 John C. Dvorak. 2390 02:25:37,230 --> 02:25:44,550 John C. Dvorak: Exactly. So So bar William bar was on the 2391 02:25:44,550 --> 02:25:45,390 morning show, 2392 02:25:45,390 --> 02:25:47,280 Adam Curry: I'm glad you got some clips from this because he 2393 02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:51,000 said a lot of different things. And I'm i My eyes are just 2394 02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:54,630 glazed over because we know it's a sideshow we know it's is 2395 02:25:55,230 --> 02:25:59,010 John C. Dvorak: a questioners antagonistic. Nobody and CBS 2396 02:25:59,010 --> 02:26:02,310 likes bar, but I got two clips. One of them's a little long, but 2397 02:26:02,310 --> 02:26:04,770 the other one which is shorter is interesting, but let's play 2398 02:26:05,340 --> 02:26:09,120 the long one, which is the this bar on the show. He says a few 2399 02:26:09,120 --> 02:26:12,300 things that are very straightforward. I admire this 2400 02:26:12,300 --> 02:26:12,630 guy. 2401 02:26:12,750 --> 02:26:15,270 Unknown: In an exclusive CBS News interview Attorney General 2402 02:26:15,270 --> 02:26:18,780 William Barr highlights why he opened an investigation to the 2403 02:26:18,780 --> 02:26:22,770 origins of Russia investigation. Barr says there is evidence it 2404 02:26:22,770 --> 02:26:26,370 makes him believe that senior government officials may have 2405 02:26:26,370 --> 02:26:29,340 acted improperly to authorize surveillance of President 2406 02:26:29,340 --> 02:26:33,630 Trump's 2016 campaign. And he says that led to the spying on 2407 02:26:33,630 --> 02:26:34,440 the campaign. 2408 02:26:34,470 --> 02:26:37,710 Critics say Barr is being too loyal to the president Jan 2409 02:26:37,710 --> 02:26:40,470 Crawford is in Anchorage, Alaska, traveling with the 2410 02:26:40,470 --> 02:26:44,400 Attorney General Jan, how is Barr responding to complaints 2411 02:26:44,430 --> 02:26:45,330 about his work? 2412 02:26:45,420 --> 02:26:48,450 Well, the Attorney General, he wouldn't really talk specifics 2413 02:26:48,450 --> 02:26:52,290 about what he is seeing that led him to open that investigation. 2414 02:26:52,290 --> 02:26:57,450 But he said he is not swayed by criticism. And he won't back off 2415 02:26:57,450 --> 02:27:00,630 doing what he thinks is right. You're only the second attorney 2416 02:27:00,630 --> 02:27:04,200 general in history who served twice. I think the first one was 2417 02:27:04,200 --> 02:27:08,010 back in 1850. Right? You're an establishment figure in a way 2418 02:27:08,040 --> 02:27:11,280 you've had a long career in Washington, but you're working 2419 02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:14,670 for a man who's not establishment, and some of his 2420 02:27:14,670 --> 02:27:20,220 tweets about officials and the rule of law. How do you react 2421 02:27:20,220 --> 02:27:22,200 when you see those? Are you on Twitter? Do you read his tweets? 2422 02:27:22,200 --> 02:27:22,350 No, 2423 02:27:22,350 --> 02:27:26,100 I'm not on Twitter. What every once in a while a tweet is 2424 02:27:26,100 --> 02:27:29,610 brought to my attention. But my experience with the president is 2425 02:27:29,610 --> 02:27:32,700 we have a good professional working relationship, we talk to 2426 02:27:32,700 --> 02:27:36,060 each other. And if he has something to say to me, I figure 2427 02:27:36,060 --> 02:27:39,090 he'll tell me directly. I don't look to tweets for I don't look 2428 02:27:39,090 --> 02:27:43,050 at them as directives or as official communications with 2429 02:27:43,110 --> 02:27:44,040 with the department. 2430 02:27:44,640 --> 02:27:47,310 But when you came into this job, I mean, you had a good 2431 02:27:47,310 --> 02:27:51,060 reputation on the right. And on the left. You're now someone who 2432 02:27:51,060 --> 02:27:54,150 is, you know, accused of protecting the president and 2433 02:27:54,150 --> 02:27:58,260 enabling the president lying to Congress. Did you expect that 2434 02:27:58,260 --> 02:27:59,550 coming in? Well, in 2435 02:27:59,550 --> 02:28:02,250 a way, I did expect it because yeah, because I realized we live 2436 02:28:02,250 --> 02:28:08,370 in a crazy hyper partisan period of time. And I knew that it 2437 02:28:08,370 --> 02:28:11,640 would only be a matter of time, if I was behaving responsibly, 2438 02:28:11,640 --> 02:28:15,420 and calling him as I see him, that I'd be attacked, because 2439 02:28:15,420 --> 02:28:18,180 nowadays people don't care about the merits of the substance. 2440 02:28:18,180 --> 02:28:21,330 They only care about who it helps, you know, who benefits 2441 02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:24,360 whether my side benefits or the other side benefits, everything 2442 02:28:24,360 --> 02:28:29,010 is gauged by politics. And as I say that's antithetical to the 2443 02:28:29,010 --> 02:28:32,790 way the department runs, and any attorney general in this period 2444 02:28:32,790 --> 02:28:36,060 is going to end up losing a lot of political capital. And I 2445 02:28:36,060 --> 02:28:39,630 realized that and that's one of the reasons that I ultimately 2446 02:28:39,630 --> 02:28:43,470 was persuaded that maybe I should take it on because I 2447 02:28:43,470 --> 02:28:45,840 think at my stage in life, it really doesn't make any 2448 02:28:45,840 --> 02:28:50,010 difference to your career, or I'm at the end of my career. 2449 02:28:50,040 --> 02:28:50,970 I've you know, 2450 02:28:51,930 --> 02:28:54,510 it's a reputation that you've worked your whole life on now. 2451 02:28:54,840 --> 02:28:55,350 Yeah, but 2452 02:28:55,650 --> 02:29:00,480 everyone dies. And I'm not I don't believe in the Homeric 2453 02:29:00,480 --> 02:29:04,230 idea that you know, immortality comes by, you know, having odes 2454 02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:07,560 on the over the centuries, you know, so 2455 02:29:07,560 --> 02:29:09,810 you don't regret taking the job. No, 2456 02:29:09,990 --> 02:29:14,280 Adam Curry: what's interesting, I love this guy, everybody dies. 2457 02:29:14,340 --> 02:29:19,140 I just want to give you a rundown on on our hero Muller. 2458 02:29:19,800 --> 02:29:23,610 Just so people get a little put it into perspective. What he 2459 02:29:23,790 --> 02:29:28,530 what he will take to the grave. He kept four innocent men in 2460 02:29:28,530 --> 02:29:34,020 jail for years one in fact for 35 years to protect Whitey bolt 2461 02:29:34,020 --> 02:29:39,120 Bulger, Bolger Bolger. For years, he kept them in jail. 2462 02:29:39,150 --> 02:29:44,700 This was in Boston, I guess. 911 happened on his watch, he 2463 02:29:44,700 --> 02:29:50,040 bungled the anthrax case. The guy who was blamed what what? 2464 02:29:50,160 --> 02:29:55,350 One guy killed himself. And then we had Steven hatfill, he wound 2465 02:29:55,350 --> 02:30:01,080 up suing the government paid millions in compensation. A key 2466 02:30:01,170 --> 02:30:07,560 in the Boston, the Boston bombing, framing Ted Stevens. I 2467 02:30:07,560 --> 02:30:11,100 mean, the Boston bombing. The Russians told us, there's 2468 02:30:11,100 --> 02:30:16,260 something going to happen there. And this is when he was all FBI 2469 02:30:16,290 --> 02:30:19,620 John C. Dvorak: did Ted Stevens was framed. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The 2470 02:30:19,620 --> 02:30:21,960 senator from Alaska told him that killed. 2471 02:30:22,020 --> 02:30:29,850 Adam Curry: Yeah, totally. Mahler is a failure. Failure. 2472 02:30:29,850 --> 02:30:30,180 No. 2473 02:30:30,750 --> 02:30:37,050 John C. Dvorak: Until? Well, depends on your perspective. 2474 02:30:37,080 --> 02:30:39,780 Adam Curry: This is a good point. He's either baton 1000. 2475 02:30:41,490 --> 02:30:42,210 John C. Dvorak: The way I see it, 2476 02:30:42,720 --> 02:30:44,820 Adam Curry: I think you're right. I take that back. Wow, 2477 02:30:44,820 --> 02:30:45,840 that guy's good. 2478 02:30:46,590 --> 02:30:48,540 John C. Dvorak: Well, I'm talking about being a screw up. 2479 02:30:48,750 --> 02:30:51,810 Let's listen to part two of this bar clip. Jan, 2480 02:30:51,810 --> 02:30:54,690 Unknown: what did the Attorney General tell you about why he 2481 02:30:54,690 --> 02:30:57,810 decided to summarize the special counsels report rather than 2482 02:30:57,810 --> 02:31:00,030 release it when he first received it? Well, I 2483 02:31:00,030 --> 02:31:03,780 mean, that was some news there. I was surprised by some things 2484 02:31:03,780 --> 02:31:07,020 he talked about, on that as well. I mean, that was not the 2485 02:31:07,020 --> 02:31:11,100 plan. He had asked the special counsel's office over a period 2486 02:31:11,100 --> 02:31:14,610 of weeks and was led to believe that the special Counsels Office 2487 02:31:14,610 --> 02:31:18,900 was working to identify that sensitive Grand Jury material 2488 02:31:19,020 --> 02:31:21,540 that could not be released by law to the public or to 2489 02:31:21,540 --> 02:31:24,420 Congress. So he expected the report when he got it from the 2490 02:31:24,420 --> 02:31:27,180 Special Counsel to have that material identified so that he 2491 02:31:27,180 --> 02:31:30,540 could quickly turn it around and release it pretty much in its 2492 02:31:30,540 --> 02:31:33,150 entirety. When they got the report at the Department of 2493 02:31:33,150 --> 02:31:36,720 Justice. None of that material was identified, to his surprise, 2494 02:31:36,870 --> 02:31:39,600 but he said the public wouldn't wait weeks while they figured 2495 02:31:39,600 --> 02:31:42,210 out what that was. He had to get something out quickly. People 2496 02:31:42,210 --> 02:31:44,640 were camping out at the Justice Department, the media, 2497 02:31:44,730 --> 02:31:48,600 intelligence officials were wildly speculating, as he put so 2498 02:31:48,600 --> 02:31:51,900 he released that summary. He said it was never intended to go 2499 02:31:51,900 --> 02:31:55,020 in the nooks and crannies of the report, while they work to 2500 02:31:55,020 --> 02:31:57,750 identify that grand jury information. But that was not 2501 02:31:57,750 --> 02:32:00,720 the plan. And if he'd gotten what he thought he was getting 2502 02:32:00,750 --> 02:32:03,240 from the outset, that four page summary wouldn't have been 2503 02:32:03,240 --> 02:32:03,990 necessary. 2504 02:32:06,360 --> 02:32:08,880 John C. Dvorak: It's true. That was interesting. And it's true. 2505 02:32:12,450 --> 02:32:16,980 Anyway, so he was like, there's another Mueller. Black mark, or 2506 02:32:17,130 --> 02:32:17,580 not 2507 02:32:17,610 --> 02:32:19,140 Unknown: or not perspective, 2508 02:32:19,350 --> 02:32:21,330 Adam Curry: the Bilderberg conference should be wrapping up 2509 02:32:21,330 --> 02:32:26,220 after a weekend of festivities at Montreux. Right on the leg 2510 02:32:26,220 --> 02:32:29,580 there with the Smoke on the Water. And, of course, we 2511 02:32:29,580 --> 02:32:34,620 identified that Stacey Abrams, is in attendance this year. Yes. 2512 02:32:34,680 --> 02:32:43,650 And you we we discussed why. And although we perceive this to be 2513 02:32:43,680 --> 02:32:50,940 generally a drinking club, I do want to remind us that a 1975 2514 02:32:52,470 --> 02:32:57,840 there was, of course, a Bilderberg meeting. And there 2515 02:32:57,840 --> 02:33:02,190 was an unknown pretty much unknown governor from Georgia 2516 02:33:02,190 --> 02:33:05,970 who showed up and the next year he became president and that was 2517 02:33:05,970 --> 02:33:10,590 Jimmy Carter and he was at the time invited the to the 2518 02:33:10,590 --> 02:33:16,560 Bilderberg conference. So the parallels are interesting to 2519 02:33:16,560 --> 02:33:23,250 have Georgia. Yeah, Bilderberg election next year. Still think 2520 02:33:23,250 --> 02:33:27,300 it's possible. That's some crazy way they're gonna try it on 2521 02:33:27,300 --> 02:33:30,270 Stacey Abrams. I know you don't buy it. I know you don't buy it. 2522 02:33:30,270 --> 02:33:33,210 I'm not even close to it. How much worse? Could it be than 2523 02:33:33,210 --> 02:33:35,850 JILA brand? I mean, yeah, it's like legitimate brands 2524 02:33:35,850 --> 02:33:40,590 John C. Dvorak: as is, I think is a red herring. And along with 2525 02:33:40,590 --> 02:33:44,610 the other single issue, people as we could play me, I think 2526 02:33:44,610 --> 02:33:48,030 it's very much well explained here. I still have this theory 2527 02:33:48,030 --> 02:33:52,320 and play it again. THE MARK SHIELDS clip where he explains 2528 02:33:52,320 --> 02:33:54,900 this in great detail, but Jill Abram and maybe you shouldn't 2529 02:33:54,930 --> 02:33:57,630 No, no, I think good clips from him. 2530 02:33:57,840 --> 02:34:01,410 Adam Curry: I like the whole single issue voter as a test. I 2531 02:34:01,410 --> 02:34:04,770 think I think that makes sense. Do you have a 2532 02:34:04,890 --> 02:34:07,410 John C. Dvorak: quick few No, no, that Abrams has any issues 2533 02:34:07,410 --> 02:34:11,280 or even is being considered it may it could be the 2020 thing. 2534 02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:13,830 It's possible just to run against Gavin Newsom. 2535 02:34:14,730 --> 02:34:17,400 Adam Curry: You know, she's listened. All I know is the 2536 02:34:17,400 --> 02:34:21,180 former New York banker sat me down and made a big deal about 2537 02:34:21,180 --> 02:34:25,440 her. And how incredibly intellectual she is and 2538 02:34:25,440 --> 02:34:29,670 intelligent and that may be true. I read her stuff in 2539 02:34:29,670 --> 02:34:32,700 Council on Foreign Relations magazine. I'm like, okay, a lot 2540 02:34:32,700 --> 02:34:38,610 of pretty words there. What are you really saying? Oh, please, 2541 02:34:38,640 --> 02:34:40,890 I'd love to have her in the fray. Are you kidding? We do the 2542 02:34:40,890 --> 02:34:42,570 show. This is great. 2543 02:34:43,440 --> 02:34:48,150 John C. Dvorak: It would be but it's not happening. Hillary a 2544 02:34:48,150 --> 02:34:54,570 Adam Curry: girl can hope. little update on MH 17 This was 2545 02:34:54,570 --> 02:34:59,370 the plane flying from Schiphol in the Netherlands. shot down 2546 02:34:59,370 --> 02:35:04,980 over Ukraine ain a lot of fuzziness in the reporting. Of 2547 02:35:04,980 --> 02:35:08,070 course, we've been following this for several years. Now 2548 02:35:08,070 --> 02:35:11,190 because I speak the language and the Dutch have not really 2549 02:35:11,190 --> 02:35:15,180 released a comprehensive report that anyone was happy with that 2550 02:35:15,180 --> 02:35:18,510 really pointed the finger at anybody other than the Russians. 2551 02:35:19,140 --> 02:35:23,520 We have the open source reporting group belling cat who 2552 02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:26,490 would prove Oh, it's the Russians, the Russians and the 2553 02:35:26,490 --> 02:35:31,380 Russians. Now we have the Prime Minister of Malaysia, giving his 2554 02:35:31,380 --> 02:35:33,540 final word and what he feels about the affair 2555 02:35:33,570 --> 02:35:35,670 Unknown: Malaysia's prime minister has called into 2556 02:35:35,670 --> 02:35:39,090 question the findings of the Dutch led investigation into the 2557 02:35:39,090 --> 02:35:43,890 dawning of Flight MH 17 over Ukraine in 2014. Mahathir 2558 02:35:43,890 --> 02:35:47,100 Mohamad says the international inquiry which alleged that 2559 02:35:47,100 --> 02:35:50,910 Russia was complicit in the atrocity was politicized and has 2560 02:35:50,910 --> 02:35:54,720 not found enough evidence to support its conclusions. He also 2561 02:35:54,720 --> 02:35:57,540 claimed Malaysia has not been allowed to inspect the planes 2562 02:35:57,540 --> 02:35:58,500 black boxes, 2563 02:35:58,740 --> 02:36:04,530 they are accusing Russians of firing the missiles but what is 2564 02:36:04,530 --> 02:36:08,340 the evidence you could even be the Ukrainian government because 2565 02:36:08,340 --> 02:36:10,320 they do have the same missile 2566 02:36:10,619 --> 02:36:13,349 five years of past but it's only seems like it happened 2567 02:36:13,349 --> 02:36:16,409 yesterday. You know, I was there one of the first reporters on 2568 02:36:16,409 --> 02:36:19,949 the scene so we have the Malaysian prime minister who 2569 02:36:19,949 --> 02:36:22,199 says Malaysia accepts the results of the investigation 2570 02:36:22,199 --> 02:36:26,009 however they accepted to certain points they accept that the 2571 02:36:26,009 --> 02:36:30,869 plane was brought down by Russian missile but as to who 2572 02:36:30,869 --> 02:36:34,349 that statement is, that has not been concluded and this is what 2573 02:36:34,349 --> 02:36:36,149 Malaysia has a problem with at the moment. 2574 02:36:36,960 --> 02:36:40,350 Adam Curry: No, there you go. To reiterate, you 2575 02:36:40,350 --> 02:36:45,450 John C. Dvorak: know, I wonder I wonder if you even remember your 2576 02:36:45,450 --> 02:36:48,930 original thesis on this which I think was the most one of the 2577 02:36:48,930 --> 02:36:51,390 most profound things ever discussed on the no agenda show. 2578 02:36:54,150 --> 02:37:02,640 Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. It was a mistake Wasn't it a plane 2579 02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:08,430 following another plane? They say they flipped off the radar. 2580 02:37:08,610 --> 02:37:12,240 Ai please help me please help me I need help because I can't even 2581 02:37:12,240 --> 02:37:12,480 remember 2582 02:37:12,480 --> 02:37:16,170 John C. Dvorak: my own I noticed that a few weeks earlier was Yes 2583 02:37:16,170 --> 02:37:16,470 yes. 2584 02:37:16,470 --> 02:37:19,380 Adam Curry: Yeah, the GPS got turned off the 2585 02:37:19,770 --> 02:37:23,550 John C. Dvorak: test system wide test of this turning off the GPS 2586 02:37:23,550 --> 02:37:27,510 for some no particular reason but it was some sort of test and 2587 02:37:27,510 --> 02:37:32,370 then this event occurred some weeks later under similar 2588 02:37:32,370 --> 02:37:38,040 circumstances and it was the idea was to was to identify that 2589 02:37:38,070 --> 02:37:41,550 look like one plant with there's a there was a closely follow a 2590 02:37:41,700 --> 02:37:45,330 Ukrainian justice theory was closely follow him and then they 2591 02:37:45,750 --> 02:37:49,440 shut down this the air traffic control system long enough for 2592 02:37:49,440 --> 02:37:53,280 him to shoot the plane and then jump off into some other area 2593 02:37:55,890 --> 02:37:59,190 yes, if we should if we could dig up the old shoe Yeah, I'm 2594 02:37:59,190 --> 02:38:05,700 gonna and I thought it was an incredibly creative explanation 2595 02:38:05,700 --> 02:38:08,220 for what could have actually happened because they have not 2596 02:38:08,220 --> 02:38:11,430 proven anything. And these these this whole investigation is a 2597 02:38:11,430 --> 02:38:14,370 scam. And they won't give you the boxes over to the people 2598 02:38:14,370 --> 02:38:17,310 will own the boxes. It's just ridiculous. Everything spells 2599 02:38:17,520 --> 02:38:18,120 cover up. 2600 02:38:18,300 --> 02:38:21,780 Adam Curry: And also the victims and the families they have no 2601 02:38:21,780 --> 02:38:25,950 closure. Just no closure. Because I'm pretty sure that it 2602 02:38:25,950 --> 02:38:29,790 wasn't the Russians. Yeah, it was a boot missile. But this 2603 02:38:29,820 --> 02:38:33,390 could have been launched by multiple parties. If they really 2604 02:38:33,390 --> 02:38:38,040 really could have I don't know I will look that one up again. I 2605 02:38:38,040 --> 02:38:40,770 do need to refresh my memory on that. But you're right that 2606 02:38:40,800 --> 02:38:46,530 test. It blipped everything and then I think there was also we 2607 02:38:46,530 --> 02:38:49,830 looked at the at the flight ceiling the operational ceiling 2608 02:38:49,860 --> 02:38:56,520 of one of the Ukrainian fighters fighter jets. Wow man that you 2609 02:38:56,520 --> 02:38:58,680 caught me off guard there. I'm gonna have to work on that. I 2610 02:38:58,680 --> 02:38:59,790 will bring that back. 2611 02:39:01,170 --> 02:39:03,240 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, go back and find that episode. I think 2612 02:39:03,240 --> 02:39:05,670 we can do that now. Sure. We have enough resources. I'm sure 2613 02:39:05,670 --> 02:39:08,130 we can define things in these episodes. 2614 02:39:08,160 --> 02:39:11,610 Adam Curry: Well one more thing. Regarding Russia this is also a 2615 02:39:11,610 --> 02:39:16,650 Russia Today clip the new Call of Duty game is on its way 2616 02:39:16,650 --> 02:39:20,520 apparently. I would know I'm not a gamer. But here's what you can 2617 02:39:20,520 --> 02:39:21,300 expect. It's 2618 02:39:21,300 --> 02:39:25,980 Unknown: back in a big way. Now after years of falling sales and 2619 02:39:26,010 --> 02:39:30,720 irrelevance Call of Duty is going back to its roots. It'll 2620 02:39:30,720 --> 02:39:35,940 be more shocking more morally ambiguous than ever before with 2621 02:39:35,940 --> 02:39:40,500 Russians so evil you wouldn't believe mild. 2622 02:39:46,380 --> 02:39:52,290 Surprise Russian Su 25 jet there it is. Apparently bombing 2623 02:39:52,290 --> 02:39:56,430 civilians and the next. White Helmets. The rescue whales 2624 02:39:56,460 --> 02:40:01,530 serious jihadist rebels as seen helping injured civilians out of 2625 02:40:01,530 --> 02:40:05,880 rubble, just like in their real life propaganda reels. 2626 02:40:06,030 --> 02:40:07,650 Adam Curry: I guess they couldn't change the script 2627 02:40:07,650 --> 02:40:12,210 anymore. Takes a lot of work to change a video game like, hey, 2628 02:40:12,210 --> 02:40:14,250 we'll have the White Helmets there'll be the good guys. 2629 02:40:14,460 --> 02:40:17,010 Unless maybe we get to play the game and then we learned that 2630 02:40:17,010 --> 02:40:19,140 they actually aren't that would be cool. 2631 02:40:20,550 --> 02:40:24,180 John C. Dvorak: Unlikely. Yeah, it's a good game. I have played 2632 02:40:24,180 --> 02:40:28,050 it. Definitely not the new one. If you played the new one. If 2633 02:40:28,050 --> 02:40:30,000 you like shooting, you gave us fun. What? 2634 02:40:30,119 --> 02:40:31,319 Adam Curry: Do you haven't played the new one though? Is 2635 02:40:31,319 --> 02:40:32,399 that out yet? Is that Oh, no, 2636 02:40:32,400 --> 02:40:34,080 John C. Dvorak: I don't play the new one. I played the old one. 2637 02:40:35,340 --> 02:40:38,610 Two different versions of the old one. But it's just fun. You 2638 02:40:38,610 --> 02:40:44,070 get to shoot it. People all over the place. Read the Red Dead 2639 02:40:44,070 --> 02:40:46,770 Redemption, wherever it is to that one that's out now. It's 2640 02:40:47,130 --> 02:40:48,450 actually one of the best games I've seen. 2641 02:40:48,720 --> 02:40:51,210 Adam Curry: guys play. I played that for four minutes. I'm like, 2642 02:40:51,660 --> 02:40:52,260 Okay, 2643 02:40:52,500 --> 02:40:54,780 John C. Dvorak: you weren't shooting enough people. If look, 2644 02:40:54,780 --> 02:40:55,200 if I want 2645 02:40:55,199 --> 02:40:56,969 Adam Curry: to have fun, I've gotten a punch an old lady in 2646 02:40:56,969 --> 02:41:00,209 the face in real life. You know what your video cost 2647 02:41:00,210 --> 02:41:02,430 John C. Dvorak: and you won't get away with it. I have one 2648 02:41:02,430 --> 02:41:06,510 last clip we can play or not play. It's it's interesting. And 2649 02:41:06,510 --> 02:41:11,370 it's but it's and it's also a message worth listening to for 2650 02:41:11,370 --> 02:41:17,880 people that have bad habits. This guy is a ghost kind of a 2651 02:41:17,880 --> 02:41:21,180 science geek that's called he calls himself very potassium. 2652 02:41:21,180 --> 02:41:23,940 And he does these science reports and he decided to go 2653 02:41:23,940 --> 02:41:27,390 find the most radioactive places in the world. Oh, please tell me 2654 02:41:27,390 --> 02:41:27,480 he 2655 02:41:27,480 --> 02:41:30,690 Adam Curry: went to Chernobyl. Yeah, of course and to 2656 02:41:30,690 --> 02:41:34,980 Fukushima. Yeah, you went there to let me guess what not that 2657 02:41:34,980 --> 02:41:37,050 bad. It 2658 02:41:37,050 --> 02:41:39,060 John C. Dvorak: was bad and not bad here. And there you find the 2659 02:41:39,060 --> 02:41:42,450 most the worst place was a basement in Russia where they 2660 02:41:42,450 --> 02:41:46,110 were treating all the the poor firemen who went into the 2661 02:41:46,740 --> 02:41:50,370 stupidly went into the doors were demanded to go into the 2662 02:41:50,520 --> 02:41:54,750 Chernobyl. Oh, yeah, thing that was not good. But this is kind 2663 02:41:54,750 --> 02:41:59,940 of interesting, just kind of the wrap on on on the wrap on how 2664 02:41:59,940 --> 02:42:04,050 much radiation you can take it in a daily basis. And it's kind 2665 02:42:04,050 --> 02:42:05,520 of interesting, that basement 2666 02:42:05,550 --> 02:42:07,980 Unknown: was the most radioactive place I visited, and 2667 02:42:07,980 --> 02:42:11,490 it's one of the most radioactive places on earth. If I'd stayed 2668 02:42:11,490 --> 02:42:14,850 down there for one hour, I would have received 2000 Micro Severs. 2669 02:42:15,060 --> 02:42:18,630 That's a year's worth of natural background radiation. Every 2670 02:42:18,630 --> 02:42:22,170 yellow pixel here represents a banana. Now that might seem like 2671 02:42:22,170 --> 02:42:25,620 a lot, but consider that in a CT scan, the patient receives about 2672 02:42:25,620 --> 02:42:29,400 7000 Micro sieverts. That's three years worth of natural 2673 02:42:29,400 --> 02:42:32,880 background radiation. It's been estimated that the people living 2674 02:42:32,880 --> 02:42:36,780 around Fukushima will receive an additional 10,000 Micro sieverts 2675 02:42:37,020 --> 02:42:40,770 over their lifetime due to the nuclear power disaster. For 2676 02:42:40,770 --> 02:42:44,250 comparison, US radiation workers are limited to a maximum of 2677 02:42:44,250 --> 02:42:48,960 50,000 Micro sieverts per year, but that's less than another 2678 02:42:48,960 --> 02:42:53,190 occupation. Astronaut. An astronaut on the space station 2679 02:42:53,190 --> 02:42:57,000 for six months, we receive about 80,000 Micro sieverts worth of 2680 02:42:57,000 --> 02:43:00,750 radiation, but not even they are exposed to the highest levels of 2681 02:43:00,750 --> 02:43:06,210 ionizing radiation. So can you guess who is? The answer is a 2682 02:43:06,210 --> 02:43:12,870 smoker's lungs on average receive 160,000 Micro severs 2683 02:43:12,870 --> 02:43:16,200 were the radiation every year, that's due to the radioactive 2684 02:43:16,200 --> 02:43:19,230 polonium and radioactive lead in the tobacco that they're 2685 02:43:19,230 --> 02:43:22,380 smoking. So not only are they exposed to carcinogens and 2686 02:43:22,380 --> 02:43:26,880 toxins, they also receive very high levels of radiation. So 2687 02:43:26,880 --> 02:43:30,210 it's not the people of Fukushima or Chernobyl or radiation 2688 02:43:30,210 --> 02:43:33,210 workers or even astronauts who receive the highest doses of 2689 02:43:33,210 --> 02:43:37,680 ionizing radiation. That honor goes to your ordinary average 2690 02:43:37,950 --> 02:43:39,750 smoker sucking in sick. 2691 02:43:45,120 --> 02:43:47,910 Adam Curry: Well, thanks, John. I'm thoroughly depressed now. 2692 02:43:50,220 --> 02:43:52,320 John C. Dvorak: I just thought it was a public service me Yes. 2693 02:43:52,320 --> 02:43:57,780 Or now? Yes. I'm calling ourselves the new public benefit 2694 02:43:57,780 --> 02:43:58,710 podcast. 2695 02:43:59,099 --> 02:44:08,939 Adam Curry: Oh, yes. It requires a vow of poverty. But man, do we 2696 02:44:08,939 --> 02:44:12,719 do good for the public? Now they need to update that with some 2697 02:44:12,719 --> 02:44:15,389 vaping statistics. I'm sure the battery doesn't do much for your 2698 02:44:15,389 --> 02:44:19,739 radiation either. But that we'll have to wait until Thursday show 2699 02:44:19,739 --> 02:44:22,229 this is it for our deconstruction for today's no 2700 02:44:22,229 --> 02:44:26,579 agenda, the best podcast in the universe. We return on Thursday, 2701 02:44:26,639 --> 02:44:29,549 you can support us and we encourage you to do so so we can 2702 02:44:29,549 --> 02:44:33,629 return on thursday@devora.org slash na coming to you from the 2703 02:44:33,629 --> 02:44:36,479 frontier of Austin, Texas, the capital of the drone Star State 2704 02:44:36,479 --> 02:44:39,689 FEMA Region number six on all governmental maps in the 2705 02:44:39,689 --> 02:44:41,939 morning, everybody. My name is Adam curry, 2706 02:44:42,210 --> 02:44:44,280 John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where 2707 02:44:44,280 --> 02:44:49,440 I'm now practicing public benefit podcasting. I'm John C. 2708 02:44:49,440 --> 02:44:49,890 Dvorak. 2709 02:44:49,920 --> 02:44:51,870 Adam Curry: We return on Thursday right here on no 2710 02:44:51,870 --> 02:44:54,690 agenda. Stay tuned on the no agenda stream for grumpy old 2711 02:44:54,690 --> 02:44:58,890 Ben's episode number 10. Thanks to Jesse Coyne, Nelson and Tom 2712 02:44:58,890 --> 02:45:03,300 Starkweather for are no show mixes until Thursday audio 2713 02:45:03,300 --> 02:45:05,490 smooth photos and 2714 02:45:05,730 --> 02:45:13,860 Unknown: such. Doe need to know what they give us shows we get 2715 02:45:13,860 --> 02:45:21,570 her we donate to no agenda is to show this really you need donate 2716 02:45:21,570 --> 02:45:30,210 to no agenda this John Adams be donate to a no agenda science is 2717 02:45:30,210 --> 02:45:48,090 turning into clean sucking in you might suck it in. So 2718 02:45:49,140 --> 02:45:51,900 it's very important that people who are healthy and can get 2719 02:45:51,900 --> 02:45:54,330 vaccinated, they should get vaccinated to protect the people 2720 02:45:54,330 --> 02:45:55,590 who cannot be vaccinated. 2721 02:45:58,290 --> 02:46:03,750 Measles, measles, vaccinate a degree, you really shouldn't 2722 02:46:03,750 --> 02:46:08,730 hesitate. You did it once and do it twice. A second time is just 2723 02:46:08,730 --> 02:46:15,540 a nice look out. becomes a needle man. Is it safe? Listen, 2724 02:46:15,540 --> 02:46:21,660 dude, don't ask questions or you're not according to the 2725 02:46:21,660 --> 02:46:29,580 Supreme Court. Look out. You come to me the man in charge is 2726 02:46:29,580 --> 02:46:33,840 expecting mothers to get the flu vaccine. younger users outbreak 2727 02:46:33,840 --> 02:46:34,170 spreading 2728 02:46:34,320 --> 02:46:35,910 concern from coast to coast. 2729 02:46:36,510 --> 02:46:41,640 Vaccinate, it's really great. Are you up to date? Better check 2730 02:46:42,030 --> 02:46:47,160 on the spot to go get by quite a lot. Don't worry. We're making 2731 02:46:47,160 --> 02:46:51,600 lots of fun, cheap and did something with it find your show 2732 02:46:51,600 --> 02:46:58,140 vaccine. She can be measles. Now. It's smaller time, 2733 02:46:58,530 --> 02:47:02,580 John C. Dvorak: nine, nine minutes. For Muller nothing 2734 02:47:02,580 --> 02:47:02,940 here. 2735 02:47:03,360 --> 02:47:06,480 Unknown: No one has told me whether I can or should testify 2736 02:47:06,780 --> 02:47:10,710 or speak further about this man all thing is a scam. There were 2737 02:47:10,710 --> 02:47:14,880 multiple systematic efforts to interfere in our election. He 2738 02:47:14,880 --> 02:47:19,770 wasn't he wasn't happy with what I did. And I don't blame him but 2739 02:47:19,770 --> 02:47:22,470 I had to do it because that was the right thing to do. Every 2740 02:47:22,470 --> 02:47:23,550 defendant is presumed 2741 02:47:23,640 --> 02:47:26,760 innocent unless alleged to be involved in some type of 2742 02:47:26,760 --> 02:47:30,420 criminal activity and from them we conclude that we would would 2743 02:47:30,420 --> 02:47:34,230 not reach a determination one way or the other about whether 2744 02:47:34,230 --> 02:47:36,210 the President committed a crime using 2745 02:47:36,210 --> 02:47:39,360 that word to me it's a dirty word. The word impeach is a 2746 02:47:39,360 --> 02:47:43,590 dirty filthy disgusting word. And it had nothing to do with 2747 02:47:43,590 --> 02:47:44,010 me. 2748 02:47:44,280 --> 02:47:46,770 I do not believe it is appropriate for me to speak 2749 02:47:46,770 --> 02:47:50,640 further about the investigation or to comment on the actions of 2750 02:47:50,640 --> 02:47:52,410 the Justice Department or Congress 2751 02:47:53,220 --> 02:47:56,910 you know got me elected you know who got me elected I got me 2752 02:47:56,910 --> 02:47:57,420 elected 2753 02:48:08,010 --> 02:48:11,070 everybody's talking about the sweaty pale monkey and saw him 2754 02:48:11,070 --> 02:48:16,350 from a tree and he's moving like a duck you got to see guys used 2755 02:48:16,350 --> 02:48:19,830 to hustle get the dough rain never seen nothing like you've 2756 02:48:19,830 --> 02:48:23,340 done before. He's a moving violation breaking in your back 2757 02:48:23,340 --> 02:48:27,240 door. What you don't know what you don't think mouse and Viki 2758 02:48:27,240 --> 02:48:30,840 got bills to pay the real hot and he's trying to sell the 2759 02:48:30,840 --> 02:48:42,870 product face bags bass bass bass bass 2760 02:48:57,840 --> 02:49:01,170 knows where you're going, it knows where you're checking how 2761 02:49:01,170 --> 02:49:07,170 you're never too close and never too far. Open up your webcam. 2762 02:49:07,440 --> 02:49:10,860 There you are, knowing how you're watching every kiss 2763 02:49:10,950 --> 02:49:18,270 saying happy birthday that he'll never ever miss Jesus 2764 02:49:18,270 --> 02:49:42,780 Zuckerberg. Started Facebook, 2765 02:49:43,619 --> 02:49:47,429 I run it, and I'm responsible for what happens here. It's not 2766 02:49:47,429 --> 02:49:49,889 enough to just connect people. We have to make sure that those 2767 02:49:49,889 --> 02:49:53,279 connections are positive. It's not enough to just give people a 2768 02:49:53,279 --> 02:49:56,309 voice. We need to make sure that people aren't using it to harm 2769 02:49:56,309 --> 02:50:00,149 other people or to spread misinformation. It's an not 2770 02:50:00,149 --> 02:50:02,579 enough to just give people control over their information. 2771 02:50:03,149 --> 02:50:05,549 We need to make sure that the developers they share it with 2772 02:50:05,879 --> 02:50:08,969 protect their information to it will take some time to work 2773 02:50:08,969 --> 02:50:11,789 through all the changes we need to make across the company. But 2774 02:50:11,819 --> 02:50:29,279 I'm committed to getting this right. Oppo 2775 02:50:29,400 --> 02:50:32,880 forrec.org/n A 2776 02:50:33,900 --> 02:50:35,790 we believe in science