1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,300 Adam Curry: We're gonna turn into a Drive 2 00:00:03,660 --> 00:00:08,520 Adam curry, John C Devorah. And Sunday May 26 2019. This is your 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,220 award winning get my nation media assassination episode 4 00:00:11,250 --> 00:00:12,390 1141. 5 00:00:12,450 --> 00:00:14,340 Unknown: This is no agenda, 6 00:00:15,030 --> 00:00:17,760 Adam Curry: celebrating one week of wedding bliss and 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,340 broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas 8 00:00:20,340 --> 00:00:23,400 Capitol, the drone Star State in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:23,910 curry 10 00:00:24,090 --> 00:00:26,070 John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where 11 00:00:26,070 --> 00:00:31,230 we're awaiting 1999 Kw for Hello, boys. I'm John Cena. 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,750 Raglan buzzkill 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,710 Adam Curry: I know I'm missing some cultural reference. 14 00:00:38,130 --> 00:00:40,110 John C. Dvorak: No, you're missing the fact that an 15 00:00:40,110 --> 00:00:45,240 asteroid with a moon slink flinging? An asteroid that's 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,720 shaped like a spinning top? Uh huh. And a little bitty moon 17 00:00:48,750 --> 00:00:52,800 going around it? Is that headed by? Is 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,560 Adam Curry: it headed towards us? Is it going to slam into us 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,790 John C. Dvorak: now? Now? I think our gravitational pull 20 00:00:59,790 --> 00:01:01,830 though it at least jerk that moon out of orbit? 21 00:01:02,580 --> 00:01:03,780 Adam Curry: How far away? Is it? 22 00:01:04,410 --> 00:01:05,520 John C. Dvorak: I don't know. I have no idea what 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,870 Adam Curry: hit any space junk. 24 00:01:08,460 --> 00:01:10,890 John C. Dvorak: It's not that close. Space junk is pretty 25 00:01:10,890 --> 00:01:14,550 close to her. In the scheme of things pretty close to the 26 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:15,030 surface. 27 00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:18,000 Adam Curry: Oh, it totally. You know, I was looking up because 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,080 of this 2020 For what first woman on the first woman next 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:29,160 man on the moon mission. And first of all, well, first of all 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:35,580 the NASA exec quit just a few weeks after he was appointed 31 00:01:35,580 --> 00:01:38,430 because apparently you know the budget is not not what you 32 00:01:38,430 --> 00:01:42,450 thinks it should be or your marks or Angelo was tapped into. 33 00:01:42,450 --> 00:01:44,580 John C. Dvorak: They just spend so much money wasting it on 34 00:01:44,580 --> 00:01:47,760 global warming studies. Well, so more money. 35 00:01:47,789 --> 00:01:51,359 Adam Curry: So here's here's my here's what I've been looking 36 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:55,619 at. The main thing people say why we haven't been to the moon 37 00:01:55,619 --> 00:02:00,029 since the 60s and 70s. Essentially 50 years ago, for 38 00:02:00,029 --> 00:02:03,299 the first time is a cost issue. This is what I keep hearing 39 00:02:03,299 --> 00:02:05,699 everyone's say, Well, can we really we pull out all the 40 00:02:05,699 --> 00:02:10,079 stops, which just we've poured all the money we had into it, 41 00:02:10,079 --> 00:02:14,429 and we made it to the moon. So the total cost of the entire 42 00:02:14,429 --> 00:02:19,259 Apollo program, which includes all of the rockets, every all 43 00:02:19,289 --> 00:02:24,599 six missions that landed on the moon was $25.4 billion, as 44 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:29,609 reported to Congress in 1973. Yeah, adjusted for inflation, 45 00:02:29,819 --> 00:02:32,909 that would be $150 billion today. 46 00:02:33,810 --> 00:02:35,820 John C. Dvorak: So I don't believe that number. I believe 47 00:02:35,820 --> 00:02:39,540 that number be closer to 50. You have to you're using the bogus 48 00:02:39,540 --> 00:02:42,360 inflation numbers that the government had been doing. This 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,110 is the real Hold 50 00:02:43,109 --> 00:02:44,879 Adam Curry: on, hold on. Hold on, just before you get into 51 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:49,469 that. So 250 million, that's fine. billion, billion divided 52 00:02:49,469 --> 00:02:54,809 by six is $41 billion for one mission to go to the moon. 53 00:02:55,350 --> 00:02:57,300 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Well, it seems affordable. 54 00:02:57,390 --> 00:03:01,560 Adam Curry: Well, right now NASA has a total budget of about 20 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,470 billion with some bullcrap extra. Well, let's give them 56 00:03:04,470 --> 00:03:07,260 another billion to take him to the moon. Are we serious about 57 00:03:07,260 --> 00:03:10,200 this or not? How much is it really going to cost? Do we not 58 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,170 want to put 50 billion 50 billion? Well, there's no 50 59 00:03:13,170 --> 00:03:16,050 billion being spent so I don't see how it'll ever happen. 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,540 John C. Dvorak: You think the whole thing's just a public 61 00:03:18,540 --> 00:03:19,920 relations scam? 62 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,740 Adam Curry: Oh, I can't wait until I was 2024. Can't come 63 00:03:22,740 --> 00:03:25,170 fast enough for me to laugh my ass off. 64 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:28,740 John C. Dvorak: Wow. holds a grudge. 65 00:03:28,980 --> 00:03:32,370 Adam Curry: But I mean, is this real? Or is this is it? 66 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,550 John C. Dvorak: The old fart up? Brocken 67 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,590 Unknown: yelling at the sky? Yelling at this guy. I knew you 68 00:03:40,590 --> 00:03:41,010 guys 69 00:03:41,010 --> 00:03:43,350 John C. Dvorak: promised the moon you can deliver nothing. 70 00:03:45,210 --> 00:03:48,720 Adam Curry: Uh huh. Okay, I just don't I can't take it seriously, 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,480 if we're not going to put up the right amount of money. Well, 72 00:03:51,630 --> 00:03:56,100 then, I don't take it seriously anyway. Well, this is a fact. 73 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,800 Hey, I gotta take 74 00:04:02,010 --> 00:04:04,050 John C. Dvorak: somebody right up to the story of the Saturn 75 00:04:04,050 --> 00:04:08,460 five rocket. That's the thing that got if we went to the moon, 76 00:04:08,490 --> 00:04:11,580 that's how we got there. We don't even have a rocket as half 77 00:04:11,580 --> 00:04:12,450 that size. 78 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:15,540 Adam Curry: Doesn't seem like such a big deal. Why is it so 79 00:04:15,540 --> 00:04:17,430 hard to just build a bigger rocket? 80 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:20,250 John C. Dvorak: I don't know why they haven't built another 81 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:22,710 Saturn five. That was the biggest rocket we've ever built 82 00:04:22,980 --> 00:04:27,120 these things just sighs the Empire State Building. It's a 83 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,990 huge really isn't that tall as crazy? No, it's not that tall. 84 00:04:30,990 --> 00:04:32,490 But that would be kind of cool, don't you think? 85 00:04:33,330 --> 00:04:36,240 Adam Curry: Well, okay, more misinformation. Dvorak. You're 86 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:43,710 not helping. confusing me. Ah, I just want to mention one thing. 87 00:04:45,180 --> 00:04:49,440 And maybe you've had this moment. But we were reviewing 88 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,850 some of the pictures and videos mainly videos from the wedding 89 00:04:53,850 --> 00:05:02,250 extravaganza of the century. And I have to say With sadness and 90 00:05:02,250 --> 00:05:06,900 disappointment that I really believe I'm a better dancer than 91 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:12,900 I am. Holy crap out there I look complete I'm just gonna have to 92 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:15,840 say it I look retarded is horrible and I'm thinking like 93 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:20,040 yeah, maybe I am nailing this here everybody and I looked like 94 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,010 a like a like one of those things outside of the secondhand 95 00:05:23,010 --> 00:05:27,840 car dealership those inflatable that it was praying mantis arms 96 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:33,990 all over the place is horrible. Horrible. Oh, I really thought I 97 00:05:33,990 --> 00:05:35,070 was better than that. 98 00:05:35,730 --> 00:05:38,280 John C. Dvorak: Well, apparently you are mistaken you are leading 99 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:38,640 yourself 100 00:05:38,850 --> 00:05:41,700 Adam Curry: so so I had to do something to make myself feel 101 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:46,680 good and I spent the past year race to video. I wish no I spent 102 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,580 the past two days doing something I promise for many 103 00:05:50,580 --> 00:05:55,470 years and I finally got it together. Zumba close. Pod 104 00:05:55,470 --> 00:06:00,240 father gear.com I finally documented it wrote it all up 105 00:06:00,630 --> 00:06:05,940 exported all my settings pod father gear.com You can and it's 106 00:06:05,940 --> 00:06:10,680 all there you can see what I use my own configuration files you 107 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,920 can install them get everything up and running with my baseline 108 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:20,610 shows exactly which widgets and and boxes I use. Released under 109 00:06:20,610 --> 00:06:22,560 the value for value model of course. 110 00:06:23,580 --> 00:06:26,730 John C. Dvorak: Well let's stop immediately here and the value 111 00:06:26,730 --> 00:06:32,880 if you value Mel's, get a pays zero nothing is not running a 112 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,260 bunch of cheap crap. 113 00:06:35,250 --> 00:06:38,220 Adam Curry: No, well, no, it's not cheap, but it's not crazy 114 00:06:38,220 --> 00:06:39,210 expensive either. 115 00:06:39,660 --> 00:06:42,060 John C. Dvorak: Close to it for most podcasters. 116 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,490 Adam Curry: The main box is $595. And you can get quite away 117 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,620 with with that. I mean, you'd still 118 00:06:49,950 --> 00:06:53,790 John C. Dvorak: get it by the plugins. No, no, no, no. Market 119 00:06:53,790 --> 00:06:55,260 A unicorn you were talking about Mark 120 00:06:55,260 --> 00:06:58,650 Adam Curry: of the Unicorn has the compressor limiter EQ all of 121 00:06:58,650 --> 00:07:02,490 that built in, you'd need no extra no extra stuff. So I'm 122 00:07:02,490 --> 00:07:08,490 basically on a on a bare bones box. I'm running barefoot John. 123 00:07:11,220 --> 00:07:13,620 John C. Dvorak: You almost sound like Alex Jones doing that. 124 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,830 Adam Curry: It was my CB trucker. 125 00:07:18,420 --> 00:07:20,940 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Anyway, Alex Jones, same thing. 126 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,480 Adam Curry: Anyway. So I put it all up there. And hopefully, and 127 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,400 I also realized that as I'm putting that up there, like I 128 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,380 could probably make a good sound on any device, I think about 129 00:07:31,530 --> 00:07:36,540 just with the right amount of time. And, and to be fair with 130 00:07:36,540 --> 00:07:40,110 the right partner who is incredibly consistent and 131 00:07:40,110 --> 00:07:43,410 doesn't mind counting to 100. As often as I asked him to, 132 00:07:43,860 --> 00:07:48,210 John C. Dvorak: you can say that but the other side of it is 133 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,790 you're not going to do that a for sure do what to produce to 134 00:07:56,790 --> 00:08:01,800 try to try to make good sound on anything because your real goal 135 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,530 is to make the whole thing so portable that you can go travel 136 00:08:04,530 --> 00:08:07,110 with that needs. Exactly. I do that with just anything you can 137 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:09,540 do a true bunch of big boxes 138 00:08:10,350 --> 00:08:12,480 Adam Curry: after this exercise and I'm kind of looking around 139 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,630 like I wonder what other is it any new boxes out there? I'm 140 00:08:15,630 --> 00:08:17,430 just looking at stuff like I could probably make it work with 141 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:20,010 that I couldn't make it work with their all this nothing is 142 00:08:20,010 --> 00:08:23,760 cheaper. Nothing is is geared towards podcasters. But now at 143 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,000 least people have a little example of how I do it. 144 00:08:27,810 --> 00:08:31,230 John C. Dvorak: Felt good. Horror wishes is the dreaded 145 00:08:31,230 --> 00:08:34,350 road caster. And he blew up his files blew up. 146 00:08:34,410 --> 00:08:37,110 Adam Curry: Oh, what happens? You hear about No, no, no, no. I 147 00:08:37,110 --> 00:08:40,050 mean, he's he sends me stuff all the time. We discussed the sound 148 00:08:40,050 --> 00:08:42,720 and I'll ask him what he's doing. And you know, there's 149 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,940 sometimes it's better than others. But he didn't tell me 150 00:08:44,940 --> 00:08:46,410 about the files blowing up. 151 00:08:47,010 --> 00:08:49,380 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, couple. The first time he used a 152 00:08:49,410 --> 00:08:52,140 broadcaster, he had to use the backup files because the road 153 00:08:52,140 --> 00:08:55,890 caster didn't blow up the whole file by a trash the end of the 154 00:08:55,890 --> 00:08:59,700 file. Oh, so they had some sort of an elf problem. 155 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,470 Adam Curry: So you had to pull it from tape. Ah, 156 00:09:02,700 --> 00:09:05,760 John C. Dvorak: that's pulling from tape. On the back, 157 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,660 incidentally, I had recorded it using the recording capabilities 158 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:14,940 of Skype. And unbeknownst to me, it automatically sends him the 159 00:09:14,940 --> 00:09:16,620 file. Pa. 160 00:09:17,370 --> 00:09:21,330 Adam Curry: I didn't know you can do that with Skype. Do what 161 00:09:21,420 --> 00:09:25,560 record is that stock now with Skype, it would appear to start 162 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:28,410 recording. Wow, look at that. Start Recording. It's right in 163 00:09:28,410 --> 00:09:30,150 there. Yeah. Ah, 164 00:09:30,810 --> 00:09:32,850 John C. Dvorak: let's say you're arguing me with me the other day 165 00:09:32,850 --> 00:09:38,730 that it was always there. Start Recording. Let me see what 166 00:09:38,730 --> 00:09:42,030 happened then when you did at least this case, when it's done 167 00:09:42,030 --> 00:09:44,910 he gets the file gets shipped to him, I guess is maybe some sort 168 00:09:44,910 --> 00:09:46,530 of courtesy. 169 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:49,530 Adam Curry: So I just record a little bit and then finalizing 170 00:09:49,530 --> 00:09:52,500 so they'll probably send that to you now. Interesting. I had no 171 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:55,590 idea Well, well, this Skype guys aren't stupid and it is part of 172 00:09:55,590 --> 00:09:59,970 my standard setup. I even show how to configure it. Hey, 173 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,630 Anyway, so that made me feel much better about my, my 174 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,190 extremely white boy dancing. It's not that I look like an old 175 00:10:08,190 --> 00:10:14,790 man I thought I thought it was 176 00:10:14,790 --> 00:10:16,680 John C. Dvorak: you don't have the video available to me. I 177 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:17,610 have no idea, 178 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,920 Adam Curry: John. Don't worry, I wouldn't want to you know, 179 00:10:20,550 --> 00:10:22,740 John C. Dvorak: did you do the conga well without looking like 180 00:10:22,740 --> 00:10:23,370 an old fart 181 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,310 Adam Curry: we I forgot to mention that Andrew Horowitz and 182 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:31,140 his wife started a conga line. The wedding I have to say that 183 00:10:31,140 --> 00:10:31,920 was from 184 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,370 John C. Dvorak: one to many crews. That was fantastic. 185 00:10:36,930 --> 00:10:40,650 Adam Curry: Things I'd never expected things I never expected 186 00:10:40,650 --> 00:10:44,370 at my wedding, a conga line. And then he's like, Hey, we're gonna 187 00:10:44,370 --> 00:10:45,750 do soltrain Now. 188 00:10:47,550 --> 00:10:49,260 John C. Dvorak: Given a big kick, the DJ. 189 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,260 Adam Curry: Job and the DJ, the only black guy at the wedding 190 00:10:55,260 --> 00:10:59,610 was like raising his eyebrows. Are you doing sold right? Okay. 191 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,610 Anyway, Hey, 192 00:11:04,170 --> 00:11:06,090 John C. Dvorak: Teresa May quit. Let's start with that. 193 00:11:06,479 --> 00:11:09,929 Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that was pretty interesting. You have the 194 00:11:09,929 --> 00:11:11,429 last tears. 195 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:13,740 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I got the end of the talk. She could she 196 00:11:13,740 --> 00:11:15,450 talked for about 10 minutes. It made it sound like she was 197 00:11:15,450 --> 00:11:19,500 bawling all the way through. She just cracked at the end. Yes, at 198 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:23,070 the end, she finally folded and she wandered off and they have 199 00:11:23,070 --> 00:11:25,350 all these pictures of her that floating around. I had one in 200 00:11:25,350 --> 00:11:29,730 the newsletter of her just making a kind of a sorrowful 201 00:11:29,730 --> 00:11:33,810 face. And of course, the media where she cried her way through 202 00:11:33,810 --> 00:11:38,550 it. You know, they go on and on. British media hated her. For 203 00:11:38,550 --> 00:11:41,460 some reason. Yeah, but the British lady this 204 00:11:41,490 --> 00:11:43,620 Adam Curry: week about the British public hates her. I will 205 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:46,830 Unknown: shortly leave the job that it has been the honor of my 206 00:11:46,830 --> 00:11:52,020 life to hold the second female prime minister, 207 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,390 Adam Curry: I'm calling bullshit here. DeVore I think you slowed 208 00:11:54,390 --> 00:11:56,340 this down to make yourself more emotional. 209 00:11:58,620 --> 00:12:04,590 Unknown: But certainly not the last. I do so with no ill will. 210 00:12:05,100 --> 00:12:09,420 But with enormous and enduring gratitude, to have had the 211 00:12:09,420 --> 00:12:13,680 opportunity to serve the country I love. 212 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,140 Adam Curry: pulled that as an ISO, just the country I love. 213 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:21,960 Actually, mine does sound a bit faster than yours. You hear 214 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:22,290 that? 215 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,560 John C. Dvorak: And maybe it is interesting by much. 216 00:12:25,650 --> 00:12:27,780 Adam Curry: But that just kind of showed that 217 00:12:27,810 --> 00:12:30,150 John C. Dvorak: mine ended though you'd love to get to the 218 00:12:30,150 --> 00:12:33,660 end because I definitely boosted the clip. clop clip clop as she 219 00:12:33,660 --> 00:12:34,200 left, 220 00:12:34,350 --> 00:12:38,460 Adam Curry: oh no, I cut that off of the of the ISO. I have it 221 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:44,940 in my clip. But it was so what this really showed is for two 222 00:12:44,940 --> 00:12:51,090 seconds for a moment there. The reptilian gene slunk away and it 223 00:12:51,090 --> 00:12:54,060 was a human being who cared about something it sadly was 224 00:12:54,060 --> 00:13:00,600 herself. And that's I think what the British public took that 225 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,600 took what was the word I'm looking for took offense to 226 00:13:03,630 --> 00:13:10,230 they're like, Well, now you cry. Now you got a problem. Maybe, 227 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,120 but it wasn't, it wasn't 228 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,480 John C. Dvorak: like we didn't expect to state and pass first 229 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,460 rebuke of her idea how to get out of the EU now what happens? 230 00:13:21,660 --> 00:13:22,410 Adam Curry: Oh, Joe, 231 00:13:22,860 --> 00:13:27,630 John C. Dvorak: I don't think so. I think it's gonna be I 232 00:13:27,630 --> 00:13:33,660 think is gov. This guy. Gov. Gov. Gov. He's gonna be the guy 233 00:13:33,750 --> 00:13:40,170 he's gonna get in. He's a Brexit guy. Probably a little more of 234 00:13:40,170 --> 00:13:45,630 the hell with it. Let's just get out. Wish I think Boris Johnson 235 00:13:45,630 --> 00:13:47,730 would be like that to to some extent. 236 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,670 Adam Curry: Of course he would. That's, that's that's what he's 237 00:13:50,670 --> 00:13:51,540 all about. 238 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,330 John C. Dvorak: There's never been any reason to do these 239 00:13:54,330 --> 00:13:59,220 deals. You got WTO as your as your backup, right? 240 00:14:00,270 --> 00:14:03,510 Adam Curry: Okay, so who's this guy? Gov I mean, now and now I 241 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:06,990 need to know you can't just play a clip of Theresa May and then 242 00:14:06,990 --> 00:14:08,700 say I think it's gonna be someone else. 243 00:14:09,630 --> 00:14:11,580 John C. Dvorak: was gonna be someone else no matter who and 244 00:14:11,580 --> 00:14:12,330 right but 245 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:14,610 Adam Curry: I expected more. 246 00:14:15,690 --> 00:14:16,410 John C. Dvorak: Oh, well. 247 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,180 Adam Curry: You don't have you don't have it. Okay, 248 00:14:21,210 --> 00:14:22,710 John C. Dvorak: I don't have it in front of me. No, because it 249 00:14:22,710 --> 00:14:25,950 wasn't I shouldn't have said anything. But he's the guy he's 250 00:14:25,950 --> 00:14:28,260 been around. He's been floating around. He's like one of the 251 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:32,760 he's like Reese MOG, that guy who's also there to very old 252 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,280 fashioned British or talks you know, very slowly and 253 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:41,490 deliberately and they know a lot of understatement, right? And 254 00:14:41,490 --> 00:14:43,890 this is one of the two guys this gov character. 255 00:14:44,010 --> 00:14:46,770 Adam Curry: Well, what will be interesting to see later today 256 00:14:46,770 --> 00:14:52,260 is all the returns of the European Parliament elections to 257 00:14:52,260 --> 00:14:57,660 see how the Brexit party did. That's Faraj as EU party. Yeah, 258 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,310 I think that may even matter. Little bit more now, who cares 259 00:15:02,310 --> 00:15:05,820 who comes in in Britain, they have no intention of Brexit no 260 00:15:05,820 --> 00:15:09,690 matter who it is, don't care if it's Boris Johnson, they have no 261 00:15:09,690 --> 00:15:12,990 intention of doing that. people's vote do over you did it 262 00:15:12,990 --> 00:15:14,220 wrong, do it again, the 263 00:15:14,220 --> 00:15:16,650 John C. Dvorak: bankers in London, they feel that it's 264 00:15:16,650 --> 00:15:19,440 better off, everything's better off with things the way they are 265 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,750 with this connection to the EU. And they can be the little 266 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:24,960 banking community, a little Switzerland in the middle of the 267 00:15:25,410 --> 00:15:30,900 middle of the UK, doing their thing and cleaning up on on 268 00:15:30,900 --> 00:15:31,800 service fees. 269 00:15:32,099 --> 00:15:36,239 Adam Curry: And the expectation is that a lot of populist slash 270 00:15:36,239 --> 00:15:40,109 nationalist leaders and parties will gain a foothold in the 271 00:15:40,109 --> 00:15:43,109 European Parliament didn't turn out that way. And then although 272 00:15:43,109 --> 00:15:47,009 it was an interesting and good result for a very young party, 273 00:15:47,009 --> 00:15:53,429 there's the F VD, the Forum for Democracy party, which is right 274 00:15:53,429 --> 00:15:57,509 wing but distanced themselves from from a feared builders 275 00:15:57,509 --> 00:16:00,239 party and he so he would be right Right, right wing, and 276 00:16:00,239 --> 00:16:05,519 they're like kind of right wing. But they came in third. So they 277 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:08,369 do get a couple of seats in European Parliament, but it was 278 00:16:08,369 --> 00:16:13,199 the Workers Party, the party of the workers PvdA with our boy, 279 00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:18,269 upfront, who would be this about Holland? Yes. Yes. Yeah. The 280 00:16:18,269 --> 00:16:24,089 Spitz and Kenny dots that would be my, my globalist buddy, 281 00:16:24,209 --> 00:16:27,629 France. Timmermans. So there's, he has he has a really good 282 00:16:27,629 --> 00:16:32,969 shot. Juncker, who's exiting the position, did an interview with 283 00:16:32,969 --> 00:16:35,999 I think it was CNN International. And he was asked 284 00:16:35,999 --> 00:16:39,269 about this very issue. What do you think about the populace, 285 00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:43,319 the nationalists who are rising all over Europe, and his 286 00:16:43,319 --> 00:16:45,599 response went noted by many 287 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,760 these populist nationalist stupid nationalists. They are in 288 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,880 love with the old country. Yeah. Oh, and they don't like the 289 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:59,820 others. In some countries of the European Union, the government 290 00:16:59,850 --> 00:17:05,730 Parliament's a major part of the society society. Don't like 291 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,900 those coming from far away. I do like those come from coming from 292 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:14,040 far away. Because the main guiding principle of the 293 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,810 European units would be solidarity. 294 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,900 They are stupid. They love their own countries. 295 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,660 John C. Dvorak: What is this makes no sense it was like a non 296 00:17:21,660 --> 00:17:27,150 sequitur like those who come from far away because it's about 297 00:17:27,150 --> 00:17:30,090 unity What are ways that unity 298 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:32,940 Adam Curry: well if you're a globalist it is like oh, yeah, 299 00:17:32,940 --> 00:17:37,110 Unity Yeah, now we're talking but those who who love their own 300 00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:41,130 country they stupid doesn't that just say enough right there? 301 00:17:41,580 --> 00:17:43,170 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, pretty much sums it up. 302 00:17:43,170 --> 00:17:46,320 Adam Curry: How stupid are you that you love your own country? 303 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,370 Mercy that again, these populist nationalist stupid nationalists. 304 00:17:54,030 --> 00:17:56,550 They are in love with the old country. It's crazy. 305 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,030 In love with their own country. Why do you do this? This is not 306 00:18:00,030 --> 00:18:05,850 good. Divan too loved in the European Union. Good luck with 307 00:18:05,850 --> 00:18:06,240 that. 308 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:10,560 John C. Dvorak: Well, it's always been a fool's errand. 309 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:14,280 Yes. To a certain degree for sure. 310 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:19,260 Adam Curry: For sure. Um, let me see when there is stuff going 311 00:18:19,260 --> 00:18:21,000 on. I don't know exactly where to start 312 00:18:21,030 --> 00:18:24,630 John C. Dvorak: talking about my speeds being off. Yeah. So I had 313 00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:27,570 some issues with my browser I fixed it with your browser 314 00:18:27,630 --> 00:18:30,540 before they fixed it. I had stuff that sounds like this play 315 00:18:30,540 --> 00:18:37,020 squeaky judicious Judith Woodward on on the news our 316 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,720 squeaky Judy 201 317 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,610 Adam Curry: or two two to play two. 318 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,370 Unknown: Now we turn to the analysis of Shields and Brooks 319 00:18:44,370 --> 00:18:47,220 That is syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times 320 00:18:47,220 --> 00:18:48,360 columnist David Brooks. 321 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,280 John C. Dvorak: Now you play squeaky Brooks person 322 00:18:53,550 --> 00:18:57,570 Adam Curry: squeaky Brooks on confusing me here. 323 00:18:57,750 --> 00:19:00,120 If when I look at some of these candidates I'm you 324 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:03,150 know I heard this with with your previous clip. It sounds like a 325 00:19:03,150 --> 00:19:05,100 doubling or something. There's something weird 326 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,440 John C. Dvorak: if when I look at slots, candidates, I'm first 327 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,660 struck by how the self esteem movement was actually very 328 00:19:09,660 --> 00:19:10,170 effective. 329 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,740 Adam Curry: Sounds like you're recording it twice like it's 330 00:19:13,740 --> 00:19:15,630 going through. It's almost phasing 331 00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:17,730 Unknown: but I look at the presidency. I've interviewed a 332 00:19:17,910 --> 00:19:18,840 lot of presidents 333 00:19:19,649 --> 00:19:23,519 Adam Curry: are you is this an effect you're doing to make sure 334 00:19:23,519 --> 00:19:23,669 you 335 00:19:23,670 --> 00:19:25,110 John C. Dvorak: I know what happened. It's just don't worry 336 00:19:25,110 --> 00:19:26,250 about it's never gonna happen again. 337 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,300 Adam Curry: Well, okay, this is interesting, though, that this 338 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:35,790 happened to you. Because this was one of the most to me very 339 00:19:35,820 --> 00:19:40,020 interesting Ministry of truthiness exercises that we 340 00:19:40,020 --> 00:19:43,500 went through with this doctored video. 341 00:19:47,070 --> 00:19:49,560 John C. Dvorak: Before we play that you did you get to the I 342 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,500 think I have did I get I don't think I have a copy of it. I 343 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:56,790 watched it last night. I have the I do have this to play. I 344 00:19:56,790 --> 00:20:02,490 have the event at which Pelosi was on On, she was at some some 345 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:10,350 progressive deal. And she asked me where my Pelosi Trump walked 346 00:20:10,350 --> 00:20:11,010 out. 347 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:13,590 Adam Curry: I mean, I have the clip that you're talking about. 348 00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:15,540 So I have all this, I 349 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:18,510 John C. Dvorak: suppose Pelosi at progressives events is the 350 00:20:18,540 --> 00:20:24,570 clip I'm talking about. Okay. And this is the actual feed from 351 00:20:24,570 --> 00:20:31,560 the event. Ad at regular speed. And she sounds terrible. I mean, 352 00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:34,620 the word Yeah, they slow it away down and make her sound drunk. 353 00:20:34,620 --> 00:20:36,240 But they used to do that with George, whoa, hold 354 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,490 Adam Curry: on, hold on, stop, stop, stop, no, stop, stop. You 355 00:20:38,490 --> 00:20:42,510 go. You're going way, way ahead of what's happening here. All 356 00:20:42,510 --> 00:20:45,780 right, first, that I'm okay. I'm just going to keep your clip 357 00:20:45,780 --> 00:20:49,110 there. I think it's long I see. So I just want to make sure that 358 00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:52,680 we get to the actual first the genesis of what happened. 359 00:20:54,570 --> 00:21:00,840 Because there was the back and forth between Trump and Pelosi, 360 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:08,040 which started with Pelosi. And let me see, the one that I want 361 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:14,460 here is you've confused me I was so Oh, here we go. Yes, this is 362 00:21:14,460 --> 00:21:15,360 the back and forth. 363 00:21:15,929 --> 00:21:20,939 This thing keeps escalating in a brawl of words after the 364 00:21:20,939 --> 00:21:23,789 infrastructure meeting imploded yesterday. And the President 365 00:21:23,789 --> 00:21:27,869 said, basically, Call me when you're done investigating, and 366 00:21:27,869 --> 00:21:31,649 then we will get some work done. Nancy Pelosi did not like that. 367 00:21:31,979 --> 00:21:35,159 So she called him basically, on Well, 368 00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:38,610 Unknown: I pray for the President of the United States. 369 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,730 I wish that his family or his administration or his staff 370 00:21:41,730 --> 00:21:45,060 would have an intervention for the good of the country. Prayer 371 00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:48,000 comments, almost suggest you're concerned about his well being I 372 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,270 am. 373 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,260 So the President was not happy about that ever. The counter 374 00:21:52,260 --> 00:21:57,540 puncher late today, he led her habit over the inaction on the 375 00:21:57,540 --> 00:22:01,170 new trade deal with Mexico and Canada, that he very much wants 376 00:22:01,170 --> 00:22:02,130 to get signed. 377 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:05,220 John C. Dvorak: She's a mess. Look, let's face it, she doesn't 378 00:22:05,220 --> 00:22:09,330 understand it. And they sort of feel she's disintegrating before 379 00:22:09,330 --> 00:22:12,360 the Russian crazy. Nancy, I tell you what I've been watching her 380 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:15,600 and I have I have been watching her for a long period of time. 381 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,880 She's not the same person. She's lost it. It was sad when I 382 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,840 watched Nancy all moving the movement in the hands and the 383 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,020 craziness. And I watch it. That's by the way, a person 384 00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:29,100 that's got some problems. 385 00:22:29,879 --> 00:22:32,819 Adam Curry: Okay, so this was the genesis of the back and 386 00:22:32,819 --> 00:22:38,279 forth. And then the president tweeted out this video, we had a 387 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:38,549 little 388 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:43,680 John C. Dvorak: long on the floor to take custody of the 389 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:49,500 border and border, everyone is started making sending signals. 390 00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:53,880 The US Mexico, Canada, if that's not the accurate character, some 391 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,290 people call it after NAFTA, some call it NAFTA 2.0. We're working 392 00:22:58,290 --> 00:23:06,690 together to make pass that not with the three things, the three 393 00:23:06,690 --> 00:23:10,620 things, the three things, very busy people. 394 00:23:11,130 --> 00:23:13,680 Adam Curry: That was the exact video that I got it from his 395 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,850 tweet that Trump tweeted out, that was not slow down. And the 396 00:23:17,850 --> 00:23:21,060 reason why the three things, three things, three things was 397 00:23:21,060 --> 00:23:23,610 repeated because she keeps holding up two fingers when she 398 00:23:23,610 --> 00:23:27,450 says three things. So it made her look very stupid. It was 399 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,410 edited of her a bumbling and stumbling, but it was not slowed 400 00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:35,730 down. But this is what interests me is that the team Pelosi or 401 00:23:35,730 --> 00:23:40,950 whatever bugle call goes out immediately. Oh, she looks like 402 00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:45,690 she has medical issues. And this distraction was created. And I'm 403 00:23:45,690 --> 00:23:49,620 not quite sure how you know how maybe Rudy Giuliani had to do 404 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:53,670 this to do something. But then then the then the for a little 405 00:23:53,670 --> 00:23:57,510 while there for maybe an hour or two, Trump tweeted out a fake 406 00:23:57,510 --> 00:24:00,870 video doctored video and then when they realized that it 407 00:24:00,870 --> 00:24:05,970 wasn't this slow down video, I have the example here from NBC 408 00:24:06,030 --> 00:24:08,610 Unknown: about the impact that altered videos could have on the 409 00:24:08,610 --> 00:24:11,940 next election after a manipulated video of how Speaker 410 00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:15,720 Nancy Pelosi went viral. And after the president retweeted 411 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,030 another heavily edited video and you see 412 00:24:18,030 --> 00:24:22,470 Adam Curry: this fantastically done. Oh my god. She looks like 413 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:26,730 she's like she's she's dying. She is Ruth. It's not a good 414 00:24:26,730 --> 00:24:29,910 video. It's not a good look. It's not a good sound. They 415 00:24:29,910 --> 00:24:34,110 bring in some other video that was not even in play at all. 416 00:24:35,010 --> 00:24:35,670 John C. Dvorak: Yes, 417 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:37,950 Unknown: the Speaker of the House. Tom Costello has that 418 00:24:37,950 --> 00:24:38,340 story. 419 00:24:39,060 --> 00:24:42,510 One day after that bitter and personal clash, both President 420 00:24:42,510 --> 00:24:45,900 Trump and Speaker Pelosi were today dialing it down. But 421 00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:48,990 tonight this video edited to make Pelosi appear as if she 422 00:24:48,990 --> 00:24:53,190 were slurring her words has gone viral, raising serious concerns. 423 00:24:53,490 --> 00:24:55,920 Adam Curry: Okay, then they bring in experts on this thing. 424 00:24:55,950 --> 00:24:59,640 So now that what Trump has tweeted is already behind us 425 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,900 although Trump Orange Man bad. He tweeted out a doctored video. 426 00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,270 It's doctored. It used to be heavily edited now it's 427 00:25:06,510 --> 00:25:08,640 doctored. It's been doctored 428 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,930 John C. Dvorak: rated, they combined the two items purposely 429 00:25:12,930 --> 00:25:16,500 and made it look as though Trump sent out the copies of the WANs. 430 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:19,470 Talk and slow. And by the way, I want to stop right now and 431 00:25:19,470 --> 00:25:24,480 mention they did this to Bush constantly. Of course they did, 432 00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:28,350 Adam Curry: of course, but that and that's what I'm seeing here 433 00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:34,860 is complicit behavior. Where not once have you seen the video on 434 00:25:34,860 --> 00:25:38,070 mainstream that Trump tweeted out, instead, you get stories 435 00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:38,670 like this, 436 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:40,890 Unknown: we want to show you this video. First, we're going 437 00:25:40,890 --> 00:25:44,580 to show you the real video of Nancy Pelosi speaking a couple 438 00:25:44,580 --> 00:25:46,650 of days ago, and then we're going to show you the fake one 439 00:25:46,650 --> 00:25:50,010 which has been slowed down the audio slowdowns make it appear 440 00:25:50,190 --> 00:25:53,220 as if Speaker Pelosi has been slurring her words. 441 00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:55,560 John C. Dvorak: And then he had a press conference in the Rose 442 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,780 Garden with all this short sort of visuals that obviously were 443 00:26:00,780 --> 00:26:04,350 planned long before and then he had a press conference in the 444 00:26:04,350 --> 00:26:11,490 Rose Garden with all this short sort of visuals that obviously 445 00:26:11,490 --> 00:26:13,260 were planned long before 446 00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:15,870 Unknown: so you can hear that edit there. You know, when you 447 00:26:15,870 --> 00:26:18,060 see it side by side, it might seem obvious, but when you 448 00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:21,630 encounter this on your Facebook newsfeed as a standalone, it 449 00:26:21,630 --> 00:26:25,110 might not seem as obvious. And look, you know, Donald Trump 450 00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:29,220 videos, hoaxes online is very obvious or as old as the 451 00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:32,610 internet itself. What is unprecedented though, is social 452 00:26:32,610 --> 00:26:36,060 media gives people the ability to put a fake video out there 453 00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:39,240 and have a quickly viewed by millions of people. This video 454 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,930 has been removed from YouTube, they said that it broke their 455 00:26:42,930 --> 00:26:46,170 policies that it is misleading. Facebook, on the other hand, the 456 00:26:46,170 --> 00:26:49,200 video is still up there. They essentially says it doesn't 457 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,870 break their rules that they are having fact checkers take a look 458 00:26:51,870 --> 00:26:54,450 at it. But just a few minutes ago, I checked online one 459 00:26:54,450 --> 00:26:57,180 version of the video on Facebook has been viewed almost two and a 460 00:26:57,180 --> 00:27:01,800 half million times. Twitter. The President's favorite social 461 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,460 media platform had nothing to say about this video, which is 462 00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:07,530 still circulating on their platform this morning, 463 00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:11,370 Tony, I think it is really incumbent upon us to educate 464 00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:14,640 how, Fred how they're doctored 465 00:27:15,270 --> 00:27:16,110 John C. Dvorak: for Yeah, 466 00:27:16,620 --> 00:27:19,380 Unknown: I see a million things like this. Yes, 467 00:27:19,470 --> 00:27:22,260 Adam Curry: yes, that's our job. We're here to inform you 468 00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:24,960 citizens that you need to look out for these doctored videos. 469 00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:30,120 But the video that that it started with is not even played 470 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,360 anymore. Now. It's just gone into this complete stratosphere. 471 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,700 And by the way, YouTube took it off. YouTube took the video 472 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:44,910 down. Facebook didn't this was a problem for CIA Mockingbird. 473 00:27:45,270 --> 00:27:49,650 Anderson Cooper. He just could not believe what was happening. 474 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,240 And I got two clips. I'm so happy he spent nine minutes with 475 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,200 a spokes hole from face bag. Why they weren't and we're already 476 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,740 beyond the video Trump tweeted out this is now something away. 477 00:28:02,220 --> 00:28:05,880 John C. Dvorak: By the way. The the meat it was a meme 478 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,690 characterization that Trump refused to take the video down 479 00:28:09,690 --> 00:28:11,790 implying it was this video. 480 00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:15,930 Adam Curry: Exactly. And you know, I don't know who made who 481 00:28:15,930 --> 00:28:20,550 made this slow down video. i The only place I've seen it is NBC, 482 00:28:21,420 --> 00:28:25,710 NBC and CNN. I think they made it they made it listen to pooper 483 00:28:25,710 --> 00:28:32,850 with what's her name here. This is the this is Vice President, 484 00:28:33,270 --> 00:28:38,160 Vice President of Product policy and counter terraces 485 00:28:38,190 --> 00:28:42,330 counterterrorism Monica Bay, counter terror Facebook 486 00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:44,610 counterterrorism with Anderson Cooper. 487 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,800 John C. Dvorak: So Monica in the wake of the 2016 election 488 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,470 obviously Facebook has repeatedly told Congress the 489 00:28:49,470 --> 00:28:51,300 American people that you're serious about fighting 490 00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:56,070 disinformation and fake news yet this doctrine video your own 491 00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:59,400 fact checkers acknowledges doctored of Speaker Pelosi 492 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,660 remains on your platform. 493 00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:03,180 Adam Curry: This word doctored it's never it was always 494 00:29:03,180 --> 00:29:07,050 deceptively edited. Now we've who wonder where the term 495 00:29:07,050 --> 00:29:11,610 doctored who launched that besides NBC you have for CNN 496 00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:13,740 doctored and what does that mean? This 497 00:29:13,740 --> 00:29:15,990 John C. Dvorak: just by the way, I want to put this in the same 498 00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:17,070 category as glitch. 499 00:29:17,459 --> 00:29:20,519 Adam Curry: Yes, what exactly does doctored mean thank you. 500 00:29:20,909 --> 00:29:24,539 doctored definition. Is that a good thing? If I'm doctor 501 00:29:24,539 --> 00:29:25,829 doesn't mean I'm getting healthier. 502 00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:29,430 John C. Dvorak: It Adam has been doctored 503 00:29:29,580 --> 00:29:33,000 Adam Curry: it treat someone medically. He contemplated 504 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,360 giving up doctoring being doctored. Okay, 505 00:29:36,450 --> 00:29:38,520 John C. Dvorak: why? Well, you know, first off, I 506 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,200 Unknown: think the suggestion there is that we haven't taken 507 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,280 action and that's not right. We have acted. Anybody who is 508 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,030 seeing this video in newsfeed. Anyone who is going to share it 509 00:29:48,030 --> 00:29:48,360 to 510 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,730 Adam Curry: listen to this so to face back didn't take it down 511 00:29:50,730 --> 00:29:54,660 but listen to what they do when Washington DC puts out a call 512 00:29:54,690 --> 00:29:56,460 John C. Dvorak: but he else anybody who has shared it in the 513 00:29:56,460 --> 00:30:00,090 past. They are being alerted that this video is false and And 514 00:30:00,090 --> 00:30:03,300 this is part of the way that we deal with misinformation we work 515 00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:07,290 with internationally certified fact checking organizations 516 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,080 Adam Curry: internationally certified. oh, 517 00:30:11,849 --> 00:30:15,809 Unknown: where can we get some certifications? The certifier is 518 00:30:15,809 --> 00:30:20,459 why I stopped. I'd love to know. certifier who was the certifier. 519 00:30:20,489 --> 00:30:23,969 John C. Dvorak: When stopped. Hold on, stop again. Let me 520 00:30:23,969 --> 00:30:30,689 guess. Cooper immediately asks, asked Sir, who is the certifier 521 00:30:30,689 --> 00:30:35,669 for this, this, this checking operation who who does the 522 00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:37,409 certification? Were you watching 523 00:30:37,470 --> 00:30:40,740 shared it in the past, they are being alerted that this video is 524 00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:43,590 false. And this is part of the way that we deal with 525 00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:47,880 misinformation we work with internationally certified fact 526 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,700 checking organizations that are independent from Facebook. And 527 00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:52,620 we think these are the right organizations to be making 528 00:30:52,620 --> 00:30:55,530 decisions about whether something is true or false. And 529 00:30:55,530 --> 00:30:58,380 as soon as we get and we did in this case, as soon as we get a 530 00:30:58,380 --> 00:31:01,920 rating from them, that content is false, then we dramatically 531 00:31:01,950 --> 00:31:05,010 reduce the distribution of that content. And we let people know 532 00:31:05,010 --> 00:31:07,860 that's false, so they can make an informed choice. What why we 533 00:31:07,860 --> 00:31:11,520 did, yeah, if there were misinformation that was, let's 534 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,910 say, tied to an ongoing riot or the threat of some physical 535 00:31:14,910 --> 00:31:17,610 violence somewhere in the world, we would work with safety 536 00:31:17,610 --> 00:31:20,490 organizations on the ground to confirm falsity and the link to 537 00:31:20,490 --> 00:31:22,530 violence. And then we actually would remove that 538 00:31:22,530 --> 00:31:23,250 misinformation. 539 00:31:23,370 --> 00:31:26,460 So most information about that here doesn't promote violence, 540 00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:31,170 but misinformation that you know, portrays the third most 541 00:31:31,290 --> 00:31:39,000 powerful politician in the country. For somehow impaired 542 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,080 that's fine, 543 00:31:40,110 --> 00:31:43,980 Adam Curry: that's fine. So the international fact checking 544 00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:49,170 network has a code of principles and advisory board. The 545 00:31:49,170 --> 00:31:52,050 International fact checking network has seven counselors who 546 00:31:52,050 --> 00:31:56,250 represent the geographical diversity of the network. They 547 00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:58,980 are pioneers in the development and implementation of fact 548 00:31:58,980 --> 00:32:02,160 checking in their countries and regions, all board members are 549 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:07,320 unpaid. The advisory boards main role is to help oversee the 550 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,760 verification process of the code of principles. But it's also 551 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,370 consulted on all manners of other decisions that have an 552 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,120 international relevance for fact checkers, let's meet let's meet 553 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,950 these advisors. Let's see who we have here. Angie Holan. She is 554 00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:30,690 the editor of PolitiFact. Clara Jimenez Cruz. She is a Spanish 555 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,270 journal. Glenn Kessler, Editor in Chief writer of the fact 556 00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:39,900 checker, he has a journalism career spanning more than three 557 00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:49,140 decades. Wow. Go Gobind drudge Etheridge. He's from India. 558 00:32:49,770 --> 00:32:54,540 Laura Zomer. Editor in Chief good for and let's see, well, he 559 00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:57,870 has over 25 years focused on fact checking and fake news 560 00:32:57,870 --> 00:33:04,680 busting in India 25 years he's the man is fantastic. 25 years 561 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,310 he's been doing this on the internet apparently. Hmm. Laura 562 00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:12,000 Zamar, editor in chief at she quedo the first initiative 563 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,640 effect checking and verification of public discourse in Latin 564 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,770 America. Okay. And NoCo magotteaux. He has extensive 565 00:33:19,770 --> 00:33:22,710 career in the media sector as a journalist and manager 20 years 566 00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:27,720 of experience in Africa. Oh, and then we have one more tea John 567 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:33,000 she veterinarian. She's from Bosnia Herzegovina is known from 568 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,250 America. Oh yeah. PolitiFact. Angie is from PolitiFact. And so 569 00:33:38,250 --> 00:33:40,740 those are the people who determine who can 570 00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:43,320 John C. Dvorak: be nobody from Snopes. 571 00:33:43,649 --> 00:33:46,079 Adam Curry: Now they're they are a member of the fact check 572 00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:50,729 network. But here's how are they but if you want to, if you want 573 00:33:50,729 --> 00:33:54,329 to become a fact checker, we can do it. And we can actually think 574 00:33:54,329 --> 00:33:57,209 we should we can get a little verification badge. Oh, cool. 575 00:33:57,689 --> 00:34:02,189 Step one application. Yes. Which includes a non refundable fee of 576 00:34:02,189 --> 00:34:09,899 $200 Okay, seems steep, and then the assessment or external 577 00:34:09,899 --> 00:34:13,589 assessors will will check this who are the external assessors? 578 00:34:15,959 --> 00:34:22,049 Lauren bigot Well, there you go. Lauren bigot is the is the one 579 00:34:22,049 --> 00:34:27,119 who will be looking at our assessment. Please this is 580 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:33,689 crazy. So it's a big intellectual network of Yahoo's 581 00:34:33,689 --> 00:34:37,589 Yeah. Theater now, pooper took it one step further. And this is 582 00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:41,249 really really what gave me great joy to listen to this because 583 00:34:41,249 --> 00:34:45,149 here you have him seeing face bag is an incredible adversary 584 00:34:45,149 --> 00:34:46,919 and they're not playing fair. 585 00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:50,250 John C. Dvorak: I guess I still just don't logically understand. 586 00:34:50,430 --> 00:34:54,300 I understand. It's a bits of big business to get into of trying 587 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,210 to figure out what's true or not, but you're making money by 588 00:34:57,210 --> 00:35:00,330 being in the news business. If you can't do it. Well. Oh, 589 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,250 shouldn't you just get out of the news business? 590 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,950 Adam Curry: I'd love that. He's saying they're in the news 591 00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:06,390 business all of a sudden, 592 00:35:06,540 --> 00:35:09,240 John C. Dvorak: okay, I reject the notion that we're not doing 593 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:10,740 a lot to counter misinformation. 594 00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:14,220 I just say you're not doing it. I'm just saying, if you are you 595 00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:18,900 are, in this particular case, spreading and allowing the 596 00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:23,760 spread of a clearly false doctored video. Again, you're in 597 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,640 the news business, there's a responsibility that comes with 598 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,900 that. And this is this isn't even a question starting in 599 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:39,150 the doctored video itself, tell me if I'm wrong here is 600 00:35:39,210 --> 00:35:42,390 newsworks News. Of course, it is this news. More news, and it's 601 00:35:42,420 --> 00:35:47,550 good news worthy. So why wouldn't you leave it as is and 602 00:35:47,550 --> 00:35:51,150 just tell people, we think this is a fake? This, of course, he 603 00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:56,310 knows that the doctored video is news. Because he's covering it. 604 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,200 He's full of crap this guy. 605 00:35:58,230 --> 00:36:01,530 Adam Curry: Well, well, but I think he's, look, he's he's part 606 00:36:01,530 --> 00:36:05,730 of the system. And for him to say repeatedly, you're in the 607 00:36:05,730 --> 00:36:09,000 news business. I think he was really drawing her out. He 608 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,730 wanted her to admit that they're in the news business, because 609 00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:16,830 once once face bag admits that, then it's all over. Then all of 610 00:36:16,830 --> 00:36:21,720 this the deep platforming, you know, hiding shadow banning, you 611 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:25,170 know, lowering significance in the feed, all of this stuff 612 00:36:25,170 --> 00:36:31,410 becomes very relevant to Section 203 of the Communications 613 00:36:31,740 --> 00:36:38,250 Decency Act. Then all of a sudden, you are editorializing? 614 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,800 John C. Dvorak: Well, they're not really in the news business 615 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,730 by No, I know. 616 00:36:41,730 --> 00:36:45,330 Adam Curry: But he's trying to get her to admit to it and and 617 00:36:45,330 --> 00:36:50,010 saying, by the mere fact, you distribute this, you're in the 618 00:36:50,010 --> 00:36:52,260 news business. Yeah. 619 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,680 John C. Dvorak: And this is, this isn't even a question. 620 00:36:55,950 --> 00:36:57,630 Unknown: We are in the news business. We are in the social 621 00:36:57,630 --> 00:36:58,470 media business. Well, 622 00:36:58,470 --> 00:37:00,720 John C. Dvorak: you're in the news to share. The reason you're 623 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,210 sharing news is because you make money from it and keeps people 624 00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:03,660 watching you. 625 00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:06,510 Adam Curry: Oh, no, I understand. If you make money 626 00:37:06,510 --> 00:37:09,780 from it, then you're in the news business. Okay. Thanks, Anderson 627 00:37:09,780 --> 00:37:09,990 more 628 00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:12,090 John C. Dvorak: involved in your side, which again, and that's 629 00:37:12,090 --> 00:37:15,810 fair. But if you're in the news business, which you are, you got 630 00:37:15,810 --> 00:37:18,900 to do it right. And this is false information you are 631 00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:20,490 spreading. I have 632 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:26,010 coming from CNN, he says that I know, it's got to do it. Right. 633 00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:28,140 You guys doing it right? So 634 00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:29,370 Adam Curry: lovely. Ironic. 635 00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:32,760 John C. Dvorak: You got to do it, right. And this is false 636 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,740 information you're spreading. But we 637 00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:38,910 have a site where people can come and share what they think 638 00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:41,880 what's important to them, the news that they find relevant. 639 00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:44,130 And when they do that, we want to make sure that they have 640 00:37:44,130 --> 00:37:47,310 access to accurate information. If there's a threat of safety, 641 00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:50,370 if we're talking about terror propaganda, that's something 642 00:37:50,370 --> 00:37:53,040 where we can actually assess that on its face and say, Yes, 643 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,820 we can pull it down. When you're talking about political 644 00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:58,110 discourse. After nine 645 00:37:58,110 --> 00:38:00,270 Adam Curry: minutes of this crap. Yeah, I'd be Ark to 646 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,980 property physically 647 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,850 Unknown: related to safety. information that's related to 648 00:38:05,850 --> 00:38:07,770 safety, we can and we do remove it. 649 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,300 John C. Dvorak: And he went on. Well, while we're on the product 650 00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:16,710 process, if you got to do it, right. We might as well play 651 00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:23,370 this from CNN. This is let's see, this is the Scarborough on 652 00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:25,230 Trump's mental decline. 653 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,980 Unknown: Oh, day yesterday, President Trump continued 654 00:38:29,009 --> 00:38:31,229 Adam Curry: dude, what? I don't know this. Yeah, you're right. 655 00:38:31,229 --> 00:38:32,099 Something went wrong with you. 656 00:38:32,460 --> 00:38:35,070 John C. Dvorak: Don't worry about it fixed. Okay, good. Oh, 657 00:38:35,460 --> 00:38:40,110 Jay. Yesterday, President Trump continued to erupt last night, 658 00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:44,820 because the House Speaker said that he threw a quote, temper 659 00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:49,410 tantrum, tweeting after 9pm. Last night the President shared 660 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:55,950 a video edited to show Nancy Pelosi stammering during a news 661 00:38:55,950 --> 00:39:00,510 conference with anchors suggesting the speaker is in a 662 00:39:00,870 --> 00:39:07,710 mental decline. Fake videos of Pelosi altered to make her sound 663 00:39:07,710 --> 00:39:12,030 as if she is slurring her words has spread online in recent 664 00:39:12,030 --> 00:39:15,660 days. Interesting. Wonder what that's about? Well, 665 00:39:16,049 --> 00:39:19,409 Unknown: we know what sacks we've been about the around this 666 00:39:19,409 --> 00:39:22,919 block before the person. Of course, during the campaign, 667 00:39:22,919 --> 00:39:26,759 we've said it people closest to him told us that they feared 668 00:39:26,759 --> 00:39:33,239 that he was in middle decline. People very close to him, told 669 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,649 us that they feared that he was pre dementia that he had changed 670 00:39:37,649 --> 00:39:41,669 you. You watched Donald Trump in the late 1980s. Watch him even 671 00:39:41,669 --> 00:39:46,079 in the 90s You watch him now he is completely changed. I've 672 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,859 known Nancy Pelosi and been working with her since 19. I 673 00:39:49,859 --> 00:39:55,379 interviewed her this week since 1990 minute or a quarter of a 674 00:39:55,379 --> 00:40:00,779 century of now, Nancy Pelosi, I can tell you, Nancy Pelosi He is 675 00:40:00,779 --> 00:40:05,909 tougher today sharp as a tack than she was 25 years ago. The 676 00:40:05,909 --> 00:40:11,339 difference between Nancy and Donald not even close. He knows 677 00:40:11,339 --> 00:40:15,329 he slipped out there actually, we can think it's incredible. 678 00:40:15,329 --> 00:40:18,419 They're doctoring videos, presents. 679 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,590 Adam Curry: All right, you gotta be come come clean with me, 680 00:40:22,590 --> 00:40:26,970 Dvorak. Here's what I think happened. You probably had the 681 00:40:26,970 --> 00:40:29,730 same thought I did. Like, ah, it's funny, I'm gonna slow down, 682 00:40:29,730 --> 00:40:32,370 some people make him sound drunk. And then you left the 683 00:40:32,370 --> 00:40:38,310 filters on all your clips. What happened? I, your doctoring 684 00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:38,910 clips, 685 00:40:38,940 --> 00:40:41,340 John C. Dvorak: it just, it's really too long and boring to 686 00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:45,060 discuss. But it was it is a filtering problem. And it had to 687 00:40:45,060 --> 00:40:48,660 do with some background processing that I didn't know is 688 00:40:48,660 --> 00:40:52,500 gonna go on to the clips. And I disabled all of it. Finally, 689 00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:54,720 after I figured out what it was because I couldn't get to this 690 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:59,550 this there was one, there's some screwball page that is not even 691 00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:04,890 linkable on the normal Windows 10 main menu that is, puts a 692 00:41:04,890 --> 00:41:09,810 bunch of special effects on top of the audio tracks. Oh, and I 693 00:41:09,810 --> 00:41:12,450 was playing around with it. I think I left something turned 694 00:41:12,450 --> 00:41:20,490 on. Problem is this this, this particular page of settings, is 695 00:41:20,490 --> 00:41:23,310 not easy to access, and I couldn't find a way to get back 696 00:41:23,310 --> 00:41:27,000 to it. It was just impossible. And because it wasn't available 697 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,790 under the normal settings, it wasn't the biggest 698 00:41:29,790 --> 00:41:33,480 Adam Curry: thing you're on. It's your audio driver where you 699 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,540 can set some of that stuff. It's like this. What were you 700 00:41:36,540 --> 00:41:40,680 thinking? This is a clear sign of mental decline. 701 00:41:40,980 --> 00:41:43,770 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, mental decline. So I kept looking and 702 00:41:43,770 --> 00:41:47,490 looking I finally found it by digging through of this 703 00:41:47,490 --> 00:41:50,700 searching the whole computer. Oh, gosh, and I finally found 704 00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:54,840 it, I just put I just turned everything off. Anyway, so the 705 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,380 number the clips have a little little echoing so it sounds 706 00:41:58,380 --> 00:41:59,100 Adam Curry: pretty crappy. 707 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,870 John C. Dvorak: The point is, the point is, is that these do 708 00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:08,130 and I do have a ISO from them. The sharp is attack ISO. 709 00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:10,290 Adam Curry: Okay, it's 710 00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:12,360 John C. Dvorak: sharp as a tack. 711 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,730 Adam Curry: sharp as a tack. 712 00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:16,650 John C. Dvorak: sharp as a tack. 713 00:42:18,450 --> 00:42:21,090 Adam Curry: It has such triple meaning for me now. I'm really 714 00:42:21,090 --> 00:42:21,330 lucky. 715 00:42:21,509 --> 00:42:26,399 John C. Dvorak: Now. I do we have the actual Pelosi write off 716 00:42:26,399 --> 00:42:31,679 of the conference, which is a progressive event that she was 717 00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:35,129 at and she's yakking away and she sounds like an idiot. I 718 00:42:35,129 --> 00:42:38,219 think I also have no I haven't either Pelosi when she was being 719 00:42:38,219 --> 00:42:38,879 interviewed, but 720 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,400 Adam Curry: this is the this is the exposing Pelosi at the 721 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,290 progressives event is that we're talking about? 722 00:42:43,439 --> 00:42:44,819 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is where you 723 00:42:44,850 --> 00:42:51,330 Unknown: Yeah, turn off. Some news happened today. You you 724 00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:54,780 this morning, were supposed to meet with the President on 725 00:42:54,810 --> 00:42:59,610 infrastructure. But that meeting didn't really happen as I 726 00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:04,380 understand it from Twitter and the news and cable. Could you 727 00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:09,300 tell us what happened and what your thoughts are on that 728 00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:10,680 meeting or lack thereof? 729 00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:16,740 I'm happy to convey my impression of what happened this 730 00:43:16,740 --> 00:43:20,700 morning, but not before. I thank you, Mayor for your incredible 731 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:25,410 leadership and cap for ideas. That's a big word. 732 00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:29,670 Adam Curry: I gotta be honest with you, John. It's kind of 733 00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:30,510 unlistenable. 734 00:43:31,770 --> 00:43:33,510 John C. Dvorak: Oh, well, it sounds funny coming over. 735 00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:37,740 Adam Curry: No, it's this is also slowed down. No, you don't 736 00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:38,310 hear that? 737 00:43:39,150 --> 00:43:42,270 John C. Dvorak: Well, it seems like it could be off about 5%. 738 00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:45,300 Yeah. Could be okay. You don't have to play it. 739 00:43:46,229 --> 00:43:48,419 Adam Curry: Well, I'm just wondering how many of your clips 740 00:43:48,419 --> 00:43:48,989 have this 741 00:43:49,890 --> 00:43:53,160 John C. Dvorak: today? Probably view of them. 742 00:43:54,029 --> 00:43:56,699 Adam Curry: Okay, well, we can't play Nancy Pelosi anymore, 743 00:43:56,699 --> 00:44:01,289 because then it just it's wrong. Something very wrong about like 744 00:44:01,289 --> 00:44:04,529 it covering the story with slow down clips, which were not 745 00:44:04,529 --> 00:44:05,999 intentionally slow down. 746 00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:12,300 John C. Dvorak: Okay. Well, she sounds terrible. She does. I 747 00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:15,600 mean, I don't care what you play Pelosi in any of her press 748 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,810 conferences. Yeah, you can clip it out and make her sound worse, 749 00:44:18,930 --> 00:44:22,860 but she just sounds bad anyway. Well, she stammers and she she 750 00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:27,120 does she does what Ron Paul used to do. When Ron Paul was 751 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:33,090 excited. He clipped words. We're going to NP then she'd go on 752 00:44:33,090 --> 00:44:36,300 with something else. She would never finish a word she'd say MP 753 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,710 instead of impeach 754 00:44:37,890 --> 00:44:39,630 Adam Curry: Ron Ron Paul would do that. 755 00:44:40,050 --> 00:44:43,650 John C. Dvorak: Ron Paul did it constantly. He would always clip 756 00:44:43,650 --> 00:44:48,210 words and so as he spoke, he would not finish a word because 757 00:44:48,210 --> 00:44:51,900 he didn't think it was necessary. And I got plenty of 758 00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:54,600 examples of it but she's doing it all the time. I think a lot 759 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,870 of people that are I don't know how you develop this habit. It's 760 00:44:57,870 --> 00:45:00,930 it just seems like a habit that you develop some How have just 761 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,670 Adam Curry: words? Well, there's also something to be said for 762 00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:09,810 her being in her late 70s. You know, it's like, hey, it's like 763 00:45:09,810 --> 00:45:12,810 Nadler. Like, holy crap. I will just Nadler 764 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,860 John C. Dvorak: Nadler 71 Well, Nadler 765 00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:20,070 Adam Curry: is in deep trouble as far as I'm concerned. I mean, 766 00:45:20,070 --> 00:45:22,830 you know, this that wasn't just some fainting that guy did. He 767 00:45:22,830 --> 00:45:25,290 looked, he looked like he had something a little more serious 768 00:45:25,290 --> 00:45:26,070 take place. 769 00:45:26,370 --> 00:45:29,250 John C. Dvorak: We had an EMS guy that EMR or whatever they're 770 00:45:29,250 --> 00:45:34,350 called, EMS. EMT. EMT. Yeah, you sent me a note. He says, you 771 00:45:34,350 --> 00:45:37,200 know, this does happen with dehydration with older people. 772 00:45:37,710 --> 00:45:40,590 He says, Did you seen it before? As may not be anything that 773 00:45:40,590 --> 00:45:41,460 anyone thinks? 774 00:45:42,270 --> 00:45:45,750 Adam Curry: Well, he didn't look good. He looks very confused. 775 00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:50,010 But again, you're 71 and you're dehydrated. Yeah, only if you're 776 00:45:50,010 --> 00:45:50,310 Hillary's 777 00:45:50,310 --> 00:45:52,980 John C. Dvorak: got a big bucket of water in front of him. Take a 778 00:45:52,980 --> 00:45:53,310 sip 779 00:45:53,339 --> 00:45:55,439 Adam Curry: except if you're Hillary Clinton then you know 780 00:45:55,439 --> 00:45:58,949 then doesn't quite count if the if you fall down because of the 781 00:45:58,949 --> 00:46:02,069 heat but Jerry Nadler It's okay. What I thought was interesting 782 00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:05,879 is what de Blasio the way he approached the situation 783 00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:09,510 Unknown: but I certainly want to see us have the ability to add 784 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:12,960 more when we need them. And I think the Congressman's right 785 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,970 about that fact. Where you want some Yeah, I got some some hip 786 00:46:17,970 --> 00:46:22,320 Jerry. Dehydrated brother. 787 00:46:22,830 --> 00:46:25,740 Adam Curry: I love this. You look dehydrated brother. When he 788 00:46:25,740 --> 00:46:29,850 was this like brother seem a little dehydrated. Okay. Hey, 789 00:46:29,850 --> 00:46:37,140 bro. You want to take a break? Yo, How you feelin man? Okay, UK 790 00:46:37,140 --> 00:46:43,590 brother. All right. What is this brother business? Robin, that's 791 00:46:43,590 --> 00:46:46,920 what you say to someone you really don't know, really don't 792 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,640 probably even want to converse with. I mean, those are two 793 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,080 total strangers. If a guy says hey, how you doing their brother 794 00:46:55,110 --> 00:46:58,500 when the guy is clearly not doing okay. Like, hey, Jer, how 795 00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:05,370 you doing? Hey, Napster, none of that next brother. Hey, brother. 796 00:47:08,070 --> 00:47:09,600 John C. Dvorak: Well, he didn't look good, especially in the 797 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,790 close of the video that somebody made. 798 00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:15,990 Adam Curry: Right. This is this is really the bottom line. I saw 799 00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:21,600 nothing but friendly mainstream media, doing anything possible 800 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,970 to distract people away from the fact that the leadership of 801 00:47:26,970 --> 00:47:29,550 representatives because they're not our leaders, they lead the 802 00:47:29,550 --> 00:47:36,480 representation by some mechanism that they are older. And, you 803 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,420 know, hey, everyone gets old and I'm gonna get older and we're 804 00:47:39,420 --> 00:47:42,030 all gonna get crunchy and messed up and make stupid mistakes 805 00:47:42,030 --> 00:47:46,020 already looked like a moron dancing. So you know, I would 806 00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:48,930 hate to be in their position. But hey, isn't it telling us 807 00:47:48,930 --> 00:47:52,410 something? And why? Why don't we see a little news coverage of 808 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,340 hey, you know, at what point does your cognitive skills maybe 809 00:47:56,340 --> 00:47:59,790 you should think about retiring if you're if you're hitting 80 810 00:47:59,790 --> 00:48:02,010 in Congress, maybe you're passing 811 00:48:02,010 --> 00:48:02,550 John C. Dvorak: out on the 812 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,400 Unknown: seated. Yeah. 813 00:48:05,850 --> 00:48:08,160 Adam Curry: Yeah. That's, I think that's a valid 814 00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:12,360 conversation to have, isn't it now? No, apparently that's not 815 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,030 possible. And where is Ruth Bader Ginsburg, by the way, 816 00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:16,590 where she 817 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:19,470 John C. Dvorak: was she's hanging in there. 818 00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:21,690 Adam Curry: No, she's not. She hasn't been back to work. 819 00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:25,410 Because she was back to work. We're telling me she's still at 820 00:48:25,410 --> 00:48:27,210 work. But she's been back to work. 821 00:48:28,020 --> 00:48:29,790 John C. Dvorak: I thought so. That was my understanding. 822 00:48:29,790 --> 00:48:32,250 That's what the media has led me to believe. 823 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:35,640 Adam Curry: I have a feeling she hasn't been back to work at all. 824 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,300 Let me see. When is the last time 825 00:48:41,970 --> 00:48:44,310 John C. Dvorak: I'd be in an iron lung for all we know. 826 00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:50,580 Adam Curry: Maybe, but I don't know. I I'd have to I'd have to 827 00:48:50,580 --> 00:48:55,260 see some evidence that she's actually back at work. Because 828 00:48:55,260 --> 00:48:58,470 she could I mean, not saying this, you know, saying this just 829 00:48:58,470 --> 00:49:03,300 was not trying to be mean, but if she had passed away that 830 00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:07,320 would be easy to keep quiet. If it was necessary. Like oh, we 831 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,980 can't have orange MAN bad putting another Supreme Court 832 00:49:10,980 --> 00:49:14,610 Justice on No, we can't have that took a look. We fake the 833 00:49:14,610 --> 00:49:17,220 moon landing. I'm sure we can fake Ruth Bader Ginsburg going 834 00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:22,050 to work. But I haven't even seen that. You know, someone with 835 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,770 just kind of bustling into the Supreme Court. Know, if someone 836 00:49:28,770 --> 00:49:31,080 has any evidence, I'd like to know that she's still okay. 837 00:49:31,620 --> 00:49:34,620 John C. Dvorak: Okay, now I got a clip for you. Okay. All right 838 00:49:34,620 --> 00:49:37,650 below. This is Pelosi again, but this time she's under this is 839 00:49:37,650 --> 00:49:41,370 the interview that Brzezinski is talking about are being sharp as 840 00:49:41,370 --> 00:49:44,220 a tack. Doesn't it pour 841 00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:47,550 more pressure on you that a conservative Republican says the 842 00:49:47,550 --> 00:49:49,500 threshold for impeachment has been met? 843 00:49:49,710 --> 00:49:54,030 No. No. Why? Well, we haven't. We're not. This isn't about 844 00:49:54,030 --> 00:49:56,190 politics. It's not about passion. It's not about 845 00:49:56,190 --> 00:49:59,970 prejudice. It's not about politics. It's about patriotism. 846 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,080 And it's about the presentation of the facts so that the 847 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,980 American people can see why we're going down a certain path 848 00:50:08,250 --> 00:50:12,180 that the American people elected him president, not by the 849 00:50:12,180 --> 00:50:17,850 popular vote, but by the the college or the electoral 850 00:50:17,850 --> 00:50:23,160 college. So I respect the office that he holds. And I think I 851 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,310 respect the office that the President holds more than he 852 00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:30,000 respects the office that he holds. And I do believe that we 853 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,250 must hold him accountable to a high ethical standard, which he 854 00:50:35,250 --> 00:50:41,070 has not met, to integrity, level of integrity that he has not 855 00:50:41,070 --> 00:50:46,980 met. And actually a respect for the governance, science and 856 00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:53,940 other barracks that we have. So this is we have a moment. But 857 00:50:53,940 --> 00:50:57,810 the fact is, is that at the same time when you try to find common 858 00:50:57,810 --> 00:50:58,890 ground to work with him, 859 00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:03,720 Adam Curry: she knows better that's, you know, you sit there 860 00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:06,600 home, you watch her say things like Why pray for the President, 861 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,110 he's clearly not well needs an intervention. And and you think 862 00:51:10,110 --> 00:51:13,050 that she really mean that? No, she doesn't mean it. If you 863 00:51:13,050 --> 00:51:13,740 really, 864 00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:16,320 John C. Dvorak: really you played the definitive clip, but 865 00:51:16,350 --> 00:51:21,090 a month ago, she has her clip going off on bush. 866 00:51:21,420 --> 00:51:23,970 Adam Curry: Oh, right. Right. Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, 867 00:51:25,230 --> 00:51:31,860 let me see. Nancy. Pelosi, what was it was 19 was the old one, 868 00:51:31,860 --> 00:51:32,370 wasn't it? 869 00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:38,820 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it was from the 92. Or nor? Or before? 870 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,600 No, it was about George HW Bush. So it had to be around 1989 or 871 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,260 something like that. 872 00:51:46,170 --> 00:51:49,590 Adam Curry: Yeah, it was 60 minutes, I think. Yeah. Yeah. 873 00:51:49,620 --> 00:51:52,080 Well, anyway, yes. That was the definitive clip because he's 874 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:58,110 always been like that. But she knows better. She knows that 875 00:51:58,140 --> 00:52:00,600 this isn't that there is no grounds for impeachment. Yeah. 876 00:52:00,630 --> 00:52:05,280 Otherwise she do it that the 25th Amendment is literally 877 00:52:05,310 --> 00:52:09,630 about being incapable of performing the incase really 878 00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:13,230 incapacitated, walk it will or talk or whatever it is or can't 879 00:52:13,230 --> 00:52:16,800 communicate. And she, on one hand, she said, Oh, clearly, 880 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,320 something's wrong with him. He's not of sound mind that needs an 881 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,310 intervention, but she will not allow impeachment proceedings. 882 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,530 John C. Dvorak: She has mentioned the 25th Amendment 883 00:52:25,860 --> 00:52:29,520 herself just recently. Right. But it's just bullshit is a 884 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,180 bullshitter. She 885 00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:33,060 Adam Curry: just she just throwing it out there. However, 886 00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:37,200 with Nancy stonewalling that, oh, no, there's money to go 887 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,590 around x. Blue is up in arms, and they're taken out 888 00:52:41,010 --> 00:52:45,990 advertisements on MSNBC. This is a message for leaders 889 00:52:46,020 --> 00:52:48,900 Unknown: of the Democratic Party. For over two years, this 890 00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:51,570 President has broken the law and nothing happened. 891 00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:54,060 You told us to wait for the Mueller investigation. And when 892 00:52:54,060 --> 00:52:55,260 he showed obstruction 893 00:52:55,260 --> 00:52:57,720 of justice, nothing happened. when this 894 00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:00,540 President took money from foreign governments and blocked 895 00:53:00,540 --> 00:53:03,180 the release of his tax returns, nothing happened. 896 00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:06,330 And when his administration illegally refused to testify, 897 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,660 nothing happened. Now you tell us to wait for the next 898 00:53:09,660 --> 00:53:13,140 election. Really, really, really. This is why we 899 00:53:13,140 --> 00:53:16,770 volunteered raise money, went door to door and voted in the 900 00:53:16,770 --> 00:53:19,770 last election. Our founding fathers expected you 901 00:53:19,830 --> 00:53:23,340 Congress to hold a lawless President accountable. And 902 00:53:23,340 --> 00:53:25,590 you're doing nothing, nothing. 903 00:53:25,620 --> 00:53:26,580 John C. Dvorak: Nothing. 904 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,110 Unknown: You broke his oath of office. 905 00:53:28,140 --> 00:53:29,490 John C. Dvorak: He's defying you. He's 906 00:53:29,490 --> 00:53:31,980 Unknown: laughing at you. And he's getting away with it. 907 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,490 This is our democracy. But Congress is part of the system 908 00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:40,740 and the system is broken. We have to fix the need to impeach 909 00:53:40,740 --> 00:53:45,120 is responsible for the content of this advertising. Need to 910 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,530 impeach everybody. 911 00:53:47,370 --> 00:53:52,110 John C. Dvorak: The need to impeach.com says Now Dave taken 912 00:53:52,110 --> 00:53:56,820 his so far now it's been on onto three years. Yeah, you're that 913 00:53:56,820 --> 00:54:01,020 means every president now whoever gets in. Obama could 914 00:54:01,020 --> 00:54:02,580 have gone through this if he wasn't black. 915 00:54:02,610 --> 00:54:06,330 Adam Curry: Sure. Yes. He probably would have. Yeah, I 916 00:54:06,330 --> 00:54:06,840 probably would 917 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,540 John C. Dvorak: have but this is all stemming from Nick's and it 918 00:54:09,540 --> 00:54:12,660 stems from you know, then Clinton getting impeached. He 919 00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:16,590 actually got impeached. And they went through with it. And it 920 00:54:16,590 --> 00:54:20,310 didn't and as the Republicans say, it didn't really help us. 921 00:54:20,370 --> 00:54:23,400 No, it ended up hurting us because it really irks the 922 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,680 people because they never got anywhere with it. You didn't get 923 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,020 him kicked out of office. So what was the point? Just the 924 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,730 process of humiliation? Yes. And that's what they're doing. And 925 00:54:32,730 --> 00:54:36,750 it irks Steve, it really makes people angry. It turns out that 926 00:54:36,750 --> 00:54:40,440 26% of the US public thinks that impeachment proceedings should 927 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,860 begin that's a very low number. And that's familiar to hardcore 928 00:54:43,860 --> 00:54:48,300 lefties. And it's going to irk everybody else if they go ahead 929 00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:51,060 with this and that's what Pelosi knows this and that's why she's 930 00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:54,840 trying to keep these guys underestimate is a bunch of gung 931 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,970 ho jerk offs like Al Green, that are just gonna keep doing push 932 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,310 for it, and then the all these young people they don't know 933 00:55:02,310 --> 00:55:07,140 that AOC is and these other Omar and the rest of them they think 934 00:55:07,140 --> 00:55:08,070 is great. Sounds 935 00:55:08,070 --> 00:55:12,570 Adam Curry: good. Let's do it. So then a clip? Well, I was 936 00:55:12,570 --> 00:55:15,270 gonna say two things happen on Thursday on a show day, of 937 00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:19,710 course, that warrant to discussion, one is the 938 00:55:20,010 --> 00:55:25,590 declassification of any and all documentation relating to any 939 00:55:25,590 --> 00:55:30,750 collusion. The second one is the Assange indictment under the 940 00:55:30,750 --> 00:55:33,900 Espionage Act. Which one would you like to tackle first? 941 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,480 John C. Dvorak: Well, I would say that the first one is 942 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,270 probably more appropriate to where we've been chatting so 943 00:55:42,270 --> 00:55:43,920 far, then we get to Assange. Okay. 944 00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:48,090 Adam Curry: So that was exactly it. It was a full 945 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,060 declassification order. I think it was an executive order. 946 00:55:51,450 --> 00:55:56,220 Everyone has to cooperate with Attorney General Barr. And of 947 00:55:56,220 --> 00:55:58,260 course, it doesn't mean that we're going to see everything 948 00:55:58,260 --> 00:55:58,740 No, no, 949 00:55:58,740 --> 00:56:03,480 John C. Dvorak: no, I'm going to see anything. I'm gonna see 950 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,810 anything. I said, we're gonna see Brennan whining. 951 00:56:07,110 --> 00:56:11,520 Adam Curry: Well, I do. I like how you're seeing people blame 952 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:17,550 each other. This is always kind of like a precursor to something 953 00:56:17,550 --> 00:56:20,520 coming out that someone did something wrong. And one of the, 954 00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:24,030 it seems like a lot of people want to point towards Comey. 955 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,950 Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, for sure. 956 00:56:32,610 --> 00:56:34,680 Unknown: Welcome back to Fox and Friends. First former Attorney 957 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,670 General Loretta Lynch claims that she never told James Comey 958 00:56:38,820 --> 00:56:42,540 to call the Hillary Clinton email probe a matter instead of 959 00:56:42,540 --> 00:56:43,620 an investigation. 960 00:56:44,670 --> 00:56:46,440 Adam Curry: We were getting to a place where the attorney Joe and 961 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,780 I were both gonna have to testify and talk publicly about 962 00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:51,480 it. And I want to know what you're going to authorize us to 963 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,200 confirm we had an investigation. And she said yes, but don't call 964 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,160 it that, call it a matter. And I said, Why would I do that? And 965 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,560 she said, just call it a matter. 966 00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:05,670 Unknown: Not so fast. Lynch now says the former FBI Director 967 00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:09,660 mischaracterized her statements. That is according to a newly 968 00:57:09,660 --> 00:57:13,500 released transcript of Lynch's testimony on Capitol Hill last 969 00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:17,220 year, Lynch also said that she was quote, surprised that Comey 970 00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:20,820 used the word matter, in reference to the Clinton email 971 00:57:20,820 --> 00:57:22,860 probe. So more to come on that. 972 00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:27,990 Adam Curry: This is delicious. I never said Matt, I didn't say 973 00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:35,550 that to you, James. But you You did? I think that's juicy. 974 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,970 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that is a good one. But again, if you get 975 00:57:38,970 --> 00:57:42,810 back to the basics, and go back to your buddy, algid, Digenova, 976 00:57:42,810 --> 00:57:47,280 whatever his name is, Digenova. Yeah, no, that guy. Yeah. He's 977 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,920 just blames the whole thing. And I'm Brandon, he says he was the 978 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,940 real. He was the real conspirator. 979 00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:57,030 Adam Curry: Right. But we we can't leave. We can't lose sight 980 00:57:57,030 --> 00:58:00,540 of what this is really about. All of this was put into play, 981 00:58:00,690 --> 00:58:09,060 because the AI more than likely Clinton, but possibly with other 982 00:58:09,060 --> 00:58:15,090 members of the Obama administration, from 2012 to 983 00:58:15,090 --> 00:58:21,630 2016. were spying on political opponents. And probably 984 00:58:21,630 --> 00:58:25,680 Democrats really to be honest, you know, leading up to the to 985 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,120 the election, they were using the NSA database, and that 986 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,930 spying is what got them in trouble in because then they'd 987 00:58:33,930 --> 00:58:38,010 started to use that on Trump. There were no information coming 988 00:58:38,010 --> 00:58:41,880 in from the State Department to have people unmasked, in very 989 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:46,860 strange way for that to take place. And they basically got 990 00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:49,770 caught. That's what that's the clip that you played of Admiral 991 00:58:49,770 --> 00:58:53,220 Rogers, that whole I got all this stuff going on. People are 992 00:58:53,220 --> 00:58:57,120 just looking at Americans for no reason, no warrant. And that's 993 00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,540 when he put that he stopped that capability. But by then, they 994 00:59:00,540 --> 00:59:03,840 were found out. If Clinton wasn't going to be president, 995 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,770 this would come to light. Oh, he did it. Trump became president, 996 00:59:07,770 --> 00:59:10,800 we got to cover this up. So that's where Brennan, who was 997 00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:14,250 probably a big part of that initial spying, was brought in 998 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,120 or brought in the steel dossier and made it all happen. It's 999 00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:22,170 it's really not about any of that. It's about spying on 1000 00:59:22,170 --> 00:59:25,500 political opponents, American citizens do 1001 00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:27,780 John C. Dvorak: when you have the mechanism. digests wouldn't 1002 00:59:27,780 --> 00:59:30,750 be a surprise to anybody. The FBI has been doing for years, 1003 00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:33,120 most of his career since it's been created. 1004 00:59:33,150 --> 00:59:37,410 Adam Curry: The crazy thing is it was it was Brennan. And it 1005 00:59:37,410 --> 00:59:42,180 was Muller, who were there when this was put into place after 1006 00:59:42,180 --> 00:59:46,650 911. And they they swore Oh, yeah, we'll make sure this is 1007 00:59:46,650 --> 00:59:51,450 never used for any other reason. Then, as specifically stated in 1008 00:59:51,450 --> 00:59:55,770 the in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, that charter 1009 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,310 it'll never be used to spy on Americans, the very same guys 1010 00:59:59,310 --> 01:00:00,720 who did it And cover it 1011 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,690 John C. Dvorak: up course as to why you do it. 1012 01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:07,560 Adam Curry: But no one is really is really, except for Joe 1013 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:12,210 Digenova. Like, buddy, he's the only guy and he's a kook, which 1014 01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:15,930 makes it that much harder for people to understand. So 1015 01:00:15,930 --> 01:00:22,860 frustrating How will we ever win? Well, then there's Trey 1016 01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:28,890 Gowdy, who he claims that there is exculpatory evidence that was 1017 01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:33,960 recorded. And exculpatory means clearly shows the person is not 1018 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,110 guilty of whatever they're being accused of. And when you go and 1019 01:00:37,110 --> 01:00:40,050 get a warrant to spy on someone, or if you're accusing someone of 1020 01:00:40,050 --> 01:00:44,160 your indicting someone, and you withhold the evidence that could 1021 01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:49,500 show that he or she is innocent. Please tell me that some kind of 1022 01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:52,020 law breaking John, tell me there's something with that. 1023 01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:55,200 John C. Dvorak: It depends on the rules. But yes, 1024 01:00:55,290 --> 01:00:57,630 Adam Curry: okay. Well, here's Trey Gowdy talking with the 1025 01:00:57,630 --> 01:01:01,920 money honey about it. Oh, I touched the money, honey the 1026 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,030 wrong way. And she went away. 1027 01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:06,450 John C. Dvorak: The FBI agents conversations with George 1028 01:01:06,450 --> 01:01:11,250 papadopolis is because when an FBI agent sends in informants to 1029 01:01:11,250 --> 01:01:14,340 someone they're looking at, typically those conversations 1030 01:01:14,340 --> 01:01:16,470 are recorded, right? Those people are wired. 1031 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,140 Yeah, I mean, if the bureau is going to send an informant, and 1032 01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:21,120 the informants going to be wired, and if the bureau is 1033 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,880 monitoring telephone calls, there's going to be a transcript 1034 01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:28,620 of that. And some of us have been fortunate enough to know 1035 01:01:28,620 --> 01:01:31,680 whether or not those transcripts exist, but they haven't been 1036 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,460 made public. And I think one in particular is going it has the 1037 01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:38,760 potential to actually persuade people very little on this 1038 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,850 Russia probe, I'm afraid is going to sway people who hate 1039 01:01:41,850 --> 01:01:44,730 Trump or who love Trump. But there is so much information in 1040 01:01:44,730 --> 01:01:47,580 these transcripts that I think has the potential to be a game 1041 01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:50,520 changer. If it's ever made public. You say that 1042 01:01:50,580 --> 01:01:53,310 Adam Curry: Xcode, by the way this was prior to the 1043 01:01:53,310 --> 01:01:54,720 declassification order 1044 01:01:54,750 --> 01:01:57,990 John C. Dvorak: Batory evidence, and when people see that they're 1045 01:01:57,990 --> 01:02:01,860 gonna say, Wait, why wasn't this presented to the court earlier? 1046 01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:06,060 Yeah. You know, Johnny Ratcliffe is rightfully exercised over the 1047 01:02:06,060 --> 01:02:09,240 obligations that the government has to tell the whole truth to a 1048 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,420 court when you are seeking permission to spy or do 1049 01:02:12,420 --> 01:02:15,510 surveillance on an American. And part of that includes the 1050 01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:18,960 responsibility of providing exculpatory information or 1051 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,140 information that tends to show the person did not do something 1052 01:02:22,140 --> 01:02:25,710 wrong. If you have exculpatory information, and you don't share 1053 01:02:25,710 --> 01:02:30,300 it with the court. That ain't good. I've seen it Johnny seen 1054 01:02:30,300 --> 01:02:30,480 it. 1055 01:02:31,230 --> 01:02:32,880 Adam Curry: It ain't good. Okay. I don't know if it's breaking 1056 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,180 any laws, but apparently that ain't good, John. So I don't 1057 01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:37,500 know if that gets us anywhere. 1058 01:02:38,580 --> 01:02:45,300 John C. Dvorak: Gets his data and good. Oh, well. That whole 1059 01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:48,390 thing is yeah, we'll see. I mean, they do bar does have this 1060 01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:50,910 it's got everybody bent out of shape. Mostly Brandon. He's on 1061 01:02:50,910 --> 01:02:52,290 why don't they get how many clips? Has 1062 01:02:52,290 --> 01:02:54,960 Adam Curry: he been on any any has he been appointed anyone 1063 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,060 John C. Dvorak: just recently, he was on bitching about this. 1064 01:02:57,150 --> 01:03:03,840 Oh, he was bitching about this thing about Barr being able to 1065 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:08,490 just unlock stuff. And he's and he's going on and on. And 1066 01:03:08,490 --> 01:03:11,550 Brennan goes on. He speaks for the entire intelligence 1067 01:03:11,550 --> 01:03:14,430 community. I wish I had the clip. He speaks for the entire 1068 01:03:14,460 --> 01:03:18,210 intelligence community when he stammering Lee says all the 1069 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,870 everybody in the intelligence community is upset about this, 1070 01:03:21,870 --> 01:03:24,930 because it's not the way it should be done. And he goes on 1071 01:03:24,930 --> 01:03:28,560 and on. He says just careless, reckless, reckless of the 1072 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,210 President to do such some sunlight. And he's really like, 1073 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,290 What is his problem, everybody? I mean, if you look at the Genoa 1074 01:03:37,290 --> 01:03:41,220 and or listen to Ray McGovern, who nobody will talk to anymore, 1075 01:03:41,340 --> 01:03:44,790 right? He's been banned from everything. McGovern says 1076 01:03:44,790 --> 01:03:47,340 they're running like, you know, scared guilty people. 1077 01:03:47,609 --> 01:03:50,219 Adam Curry: Well, let's remember this famous words of John 1078 01:03:50,219 --> 01:03:50,609 Brennan 1079 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,160 Unknown: people are innocent until well alleged to be 1080 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,630 involved in some type of criminal activity. 1081 01:03:56,550 --> 01:03:59,820 Adam Curry: I don't know. I don't think he's safe. lead to 1082 01:03:59,820 --> 01:04:03,660 criminal activity. You're guilty. Guilty until it's LED. 1083 01:04:03,660 --> 01:04:06,090 So I think he's in some trouble there. 1084 01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:09,570 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, by his own standards, he is now 1085 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,560 unbelievable. Well, okay, so Assange. Yes. 1086 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,330 Adam Curry: Assange. Now this is interesting. Actually, I have a 1087 01:04:18,330 --> 01:04:21,840 clip for this, I think. Yes, under the heading press 1088 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,480 freedoms, because that's what this is. That's what this will 1089 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,200 be talked about. As usual. There's no such thing as press 1090 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,260 freedoms. I just want to remind everybody, there's a freedom of 1091 01:04:31,260 --> 01:04:34,800 the press which is per our Constitution, the United States 1092 01:04:34,830 --> 01:04:38,640 it varies by country. The United Kingdom has no freedom of the 1093 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:44,730 press. You get a D notice a shut up slave and just stop it. Here 1094 01:04:44,730 --> 01:04:48,360 is let me see. This is from the this is about the 1095 01:04:48,390 --> 01:04:49,530 John C. Dvorak: D stand for 1096 01:04:50,460 --> 01:04:55,530 Adam Curry: doofus I don't know D. I don't know someone will be 1097 01:04:55,530 --> 01:04:56,130 able to tell us 1098 01:04:56,790 --> 01:04:58,710 John C. Dvorak: breaking news in our worldly the Justice 1099 01:04:58,710 --> 01:05:01,410 Department announcing more charges against WikiLeaks 1100 01:05:01,410 --> 01:05:03,780 founder Julian Assange. Let's get right to CNN as Laura 1101 01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:05,730 Jarrett at the Justice Department. Laura, what are the 1102 01:05:05,730 --> 01:05:07,140 details of this indictment? 1103 01:05:07,620 --> 01:05:10,170 Unknown: Well, Jake, this is a pretty aggressive new move by 1104 01:05:10,170 --> 01:05:13,440 the Justice Department essentially tacking on 17 new 1105 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,410 charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, we had 1106 01:05:16,410 --> 01:05:20,850 seen a single charge of computer intrusion late last month, but 1107 01:05:20,850 --> 01:05:25,170 now a 17. New charges much more significant. And really a really 1108 01:05:25,170 --> 01:05:28,260 a big deal here for First Amendment advocates and a 1109 01:05:28,260 --> 01:05:31,980 concern here, because he's being charged with unlawfully 1110 01:05:31,980 --> 01:05:35,490 obtaining, soliciting, encouraging that former 1111 01:05:35,490 --> 01:05:39,270 intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning with obtaining of just a 1112 01:05:39,300 --> 01:05:42,480 bevy of National Defense materials, and he's being 1113 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,360 charged with publishing those materials. And so the Justice 1114 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,480 Department asked today, well, what's the difference between 1115 01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:52,110 Julian Assange and journalists like you and I, and they said, 1116 01:05:52,140 --> 01:05:55,950 Let's be clear. Julian Assange is no journalist, what another 1117 01:05:55,950 --> 01:05:59,250 justice official said he's not being charged simply because 1118 01:05:59,250 --> 01:06:01,320 he's a publisher and what a publisher and what they're 1119 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,950 pointing to is not only the fact that Assange allegedly helped 1120 01:06:04,980 --> 01:06:09,600 Manning crack into a Department of Defense password, but also 1121 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,020 the fact that he published confidential human sources, the 1122 01:06:13,020 --> 01:06:16,680 names of human sources, which put them in danger. And he knew 1123 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,350 that publishing would put them in danger, he solicited those 1124 01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:22,080 materials on WikiLeaks. And that's what they're pointing to, 1125 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,640 which makes this case different. Jake, 1126 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,340 John C. Dvorak: and Laura, what does this mean for Assange? And 1127 01:06:26,370 --> 01:06:27,810 has WikiLeaks responded? 1128 01:06:28,290 --> 01:06:30,870 Unknown: They have they have said, This is madness. It's the 1129 01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:33,780 end of national security journalism and the First 1130 01:06:33,930 --> 01:06:37,530 Amendment. So obviously, a pretty a pretty aggressive 1131 01:06:37,530 --> 01:06:40,350 response from WikiLeaks there. But you know, this, this is 1132 01:06:40,350 --> 01:06:42,570 something that the prior administration really struggled 1133 01:06:42,570 --> 01:06:46,260 with under the same set of facts. Under the prior Justice 1134 01:06:46,260 --> 01:06:49,560 Department, Eric Holder declined to prosecute Julian Assange 1135 01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:53,160 under the Espionage Act for just this idea, because the idea is, 1136 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,440 well, what would be separate this from the New York Times 1137 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,170 publishing classified information? And I should also 1138 01:06:58,170 --> 01:07:01,470 point out, you might wonder why we're seeing this today. The 1139 01:07:01,470 --> 01:07:05,760 Justice Berman actually had 60 days from when he was arrested 1140 01:07:06,030 --> 01:07:09,180 last month. And so there was a sort of window for when they 1141 01:07:09,180 --> 01:07:12,300 could tack on these new charges. No telling whether they're going 1142 01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:14,730 to tack on any additional charges, though, at this point. 1143 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,090 Adam Curry: I think these 60 days is for extradition, maybe. 1144 01:07:19,110 --> 01:07:20,010 Is that the idea 1145 01:07:20,250 --> 01:07:22,560 John C. Dvorak: about any of this disguise, not even an 1146 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,350 American? How can they charge you with anything? 1147 01:07:25,650 --> 01:07:32,430 Adam Curry: Well, there is a Wikipedia page for the Espionage 1148 01:07:32,430 --> 01:07:37,020 Act of 1917. United States federal law. And 1149 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,150 John C. Dvorak: many people have been found guilty under this 1150 01:07:39,150 --> 01:07:42,690 Espionage Act, even though we've gone through two world wars and 1151 01:07:42,690 --> 01:07:45,840 Vietnam War and we've had all these other acts police actions 1152 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,810 around the world and, and potential for espionage and 1153 01:07:48,810 --> 01:07:51,870 people were blown up trains in World War Two and all the rest. 1154 01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:54,360 Well, how many people been charged and found guilty? 1155 01:07:55,410 --> 01:08:00,450 Adam Curry: And I don't think I know how many have been actually 1156 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,440 found guilty. Zero. I think interestingly enough, Daniel 1157 01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:07,710 Ellsberg. Yeah. Who was the whistleblower of the Pentagon 1158 01:08:07,710 --> 01:08:12,210 Papers? He was, he was hauled before the court on, 1159 01:08:12,509 --> 01:08:15,299 John C. Dvorak: he actually did the whole act. He grabbed the 1160 01:08:15,299 --> 01:08:18,749 papers, and he released the papers, right? Julian Assange 1161 01:08:18,749 --> 01:08:21,329 was acting as a journalist in this regard, because he didn't 1162 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:25,859 go go steal the papers. And by the way, let's get back to my 1163 01:08:25,859 --> 01:08:29,189 point. Well, I'm not an American. Yes, he isn't. He's a 1164 01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:33,659 citizen of Australia. He's, he's living in England, what jurist? 1165 01:08:33,689 --> 01:08:36,749 What is the jurisdiction? President? I'm asking about 1166 01:08:36,749 --> 01:08:39,659 jurisdiction or what jurisdiction? Do we have to 1167 01:08:39,659 --> 01:08:46,499 charge this guy under any act? Did espionage or other? Where's 1168 01:08:46,499 --> 01:08:52,589 our jurisdiction here? So I'm not an American? He can't he's 1169 01:08:52,589 --> 01:08:53,879 not committing espionage. Okay. 1170 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,220 Adam Curry: Can I ask you a question? Can you? I mean, I 1171 01:08:56,220 --> 01:08:58,470 understand you've made this point you keep making it over 1172 01:08:58,470 --> 01:09:02,370 and over again. Gadhafi was not an American, we went over there 1173 01:09:02,370 --> 01:09:06,270 and shot him up the ass. What is your point? I mean, this is a 1174 01:09:06,270 --> 01:09:09,240 fucking stupid argument. Yes, he's not an American. And 1175 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:14,160 neither is it is well, it's to make it over and over again. I 1176 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,730 don't think I don't think it matters ever being addressed. 1177 01:09:18,030 --> 01:09:20,940 Well, but what is there to say? I don't think it matters. I 1178 01:09:20,940 --> 01:09:24,990 think the United States if they want to charge anybody under 1179 01:09:25,020 --> 01:09:28,290 anything, to jaywalking acts, they'll do it. 1180 01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:32,550 John C. Dvorak: I have no jurisdiction over this guy. 1181 01:09:34,050 --> 01:09:36,720 Adam Curry: Not until he's here. If they get him here, then all 1182 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:37,830 of a sudden, I think you've got 1183 01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,500 John C. Dvorak: me here. What's the jurisdiction? He's not as 1184 01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:41,700 sensitive united. Okay, I'm 1185 01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:43,890 Adam Curry: sorry. It's the world police gonna swoop in and 1186 01:09:43,890 --> 01:09:47,850 say hold on a second. You can prosecute that young mom. 1187 01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:49,860 John C. Dvorak: Well, the problem with the World Police is 1188 01:09:49,860 --> 01:09:52,410 that we're the world police. Exactly. 1189 01:09:53,340 --> 01:09:55,860 Unknown: Give it up already. I'm not 1190 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,160 Adam Curry: but I think there's something else going on here. I 1191 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,520 think this is I don't think this is for one of two reasons 1192 01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:08,520 either, somehow, and this has Trump's greasy fingerprints on 1193 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:14,040 it, either A, we're gonna use this guy to show what, what you 1194 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,970 can't do somehow. We'll we'll finagle this into the law to 1195 01:10:17,970 --> 01:10:22,320 show that if you are publishing things that are just given to 1196 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:27,960 you, from inside the American government or intelligence 1197 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:32,250 sources, they want to stop that for obvious reasons. And there's 1198 01:10:32,250 --> 01:10:34,830 a lot of leaking in particular, when it comes to stuff about 1199 01:10:34,830 --> 01:10:38,580 Trump and he and there's, it's been very damaging to him. And 1200 01:10:38,580 --> 01:10:43,590 so he may want to use this as a case to stop it. Or it's meant 1201 01:10:43,590 --> 01:10:47,640 to let Julius Assange go free because I don't see any court 1202 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,350 who could convict this. 1203 01:10:49,860 --> 01:10:53,130 John C. Dvorak: I have felt the exact same way. I think this may 1204 01:10:53,130 --> 01:10:56,430 just they did overcharge him with stuff. That's bull crap, 1205 01:10:56,430 --> 01:11:00,780 the espionage law being the most obvious, where's the Logan Act? 1206 01:11:01,020 --> 01:11:05,370 Anyway, the espionage laws are bull crap, and they're in and 1207 01:11:05,370 --> 01:11:07,770 he's gonna go free. And that's the idea. I think that's a 1208 01:11:07,770 --> 01:11:10,680 positive, distinct possibility, because we know that Trump was 1209 01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:17,220 happy about Assange. But he has to put up a false front here to 1210 01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:20,400 make it look as though he's getting tough now, just he just 1211 01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:23,250 likes the fact that Julian Assange got him elected as 1212 01:11:23,250 --> 01:11:24,300 president. Yes, 1213 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,300 Adam Curry: of course he does. And this may be just to get out 1214 01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:30,570 of jail free card to answer your earlier question. In 2001, 1215 01:11:30,570 --> 01:11:35,400 retired Army Reserve Colonel George Topham off was indicted 1216 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:40,140 under the Act and convicted of conducting espionage. KENNETH 1217 01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:43,590 Wayne Ford Jr. indicted for allegedly having a box of 1218 01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:47,100 documents in his house after he left NSA he was sentenced to six 1219 01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:52,590 years in prison to sound like this hasn't worked. In 2005, 1220 01:11:52,590 --> 01:11:57,540 Pentagon, Iran expert Loris Franklin, were in and lobbyists 1221 01:11:57,540 --> 01:12:03,420 Rosen and Weissman were indicted under the act. See, frankly, was 1222 01:12:03,420 --> 01:12:06,780 sentenced to 12 years later reduced to 10 months of home 1223 01:12:06,780 --> 01:12:12,060 confinement, it seems like yeah, maybe not such a big 12 years to 1224 01:12:12,060 --> 01:12:12,960 10 months, 1225 01:12:13,139 --> 01:12:16,019 John C. Dvorak: damn. 12 years to 10 months of home 1226 01:12:16,019 --> 01:12:16,859 confinement. 1227 01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:19,140 Adam Curry: That's that's that's a pretty good lobby right there, 1228 01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:26,010 man. Good job on that. Alexander. Jeffrey Sterling, 1229 01:12:26,010 --> 01:12:29,700 former CIA agent indicted on the act in January 2011. 1230 01:12:30,030 --> 01:12:33,180 unauthorized disclosure of National Defense Information to 1231 01:12:33,180 --> 01:12:34,860 James risin. You remember that? 1232 01:12:35,370 --> 01:12:37,530 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Well, how come Hillary has been indicted 1233 01:12:37,530 --> 01:12:39,990 under this. This is not for elites. 1234 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,230 Adam Curry: This is not for lizards. This is for humans. 1235 01:12:44,220 --> 01:12:47,700 These laws are not for the shapeshifters. John, they get to 1236 01:12:47,700 --> 01:12:52,950 do whatever they want. But yes, I think I think we're both kind 1237 01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:55,320 of in agreement that this is like, oh, make it look really, 1238 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,380 really bad. And then I don't even know if they'll go to go to 1239 01:12:58,380 --> 01:13:03,420 trial with it. They'll come up with some Well, something, it 1240 01:13:03,420 --> 01:13:06,240 just doesn't feel like they're really going to do this. And the 1241 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,480 way the press is responding. They're not really all freaked 1242 01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:12,930 out about it. So they must not think it's really there. Is a 1243 01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:16,890 little bit of this. Oh, well. How was it different from NBC? 1244 01:13:17,250 --> 01:13:22,200 Well, NBC is fake. I mean, you one way to look at it. It's 1245 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,310 quite different from NBC. In fact, I just thought that was 1246 01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:28,830 Yeah, so 1247 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,400 John C. Dvorak: we'll see. We'll see. I still question the 1248 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:33,780 jurisdiction issues. 1249 01:13:34,530 --> 01:13:36,360 Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your 1250 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,690 courage and to say in the morning to you the man who put 1251 01:13:39,690 --> 01:13:43,890 the C in the notice that comes before the D Notice John C. 1252 01:13:45,390 --> 01:13:48,810 John C. Dvorak: By the way, the D notice stands for this 1253 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,380 defense. Okay, thank you. Defense. Hello, well in the 1254 01:13:52,380 --> 01:13:55,560 morning to you, Mr. Adam curry also in Memorial ships the boots 1255 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,540 on the ground feed yourselves the world the dames knights out 1256 01:13:57,540 --> 01:13:57,750 there 1257 01:13:58,740 --> 01:14:01,500 Adam Curry: in the morning to the troll room. Easy does it 1258 01:14:01,500 --> 01:14:05,400 trolls at no agenda stream.com Good to see you all there. And 1259 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,640 thank you for showing up no agenda stream.com 24/7 You can 1260 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:14,280 hear all kinds of groovy stuff. Also in the morning to data, 1261 01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:19,710 data, data data. Only a few pieces of artwork uploaded to no 1262 01:14:19,710 --> 01:14:23,730 agenda art generator.com But this one caught our eye it was 1263 01:14:23,730 --> 01:14:28,560 the Spitz and Connie dots. And we use that for episode 1140 of 1264 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,800 the title of that episode was imperious. And we want to thank 1265 01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:36,360 data data, whoever that is a relatively unknown artist for 1266 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:41,250 bringing us that I even saw some Europeans retweeting it, mainly 1267 01:14:41,250 --> 01:14:46,740 based on the art they thought it was cute in in regard to the 1268 01:14:46,770 --> 01:14:49,770 elections taking place this weekend. So thank you very much. 1269 01:14:49,770 --> 01:14:52,230 No agenda art generator.com. We'd love everyone who 1270 01:14:52,230 --> 01:14:54,540 participates in our value for value network that includes 1271 01:14:54,540 --> 01:14:58,140 producers of the executive kind and Associate Executive 1272 01:14:58,140 --> 01:15:00,300 producers. We'd like to thank them upfront in the show. Just 1273 01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:03,120 like Hollywood, that tell you what they said, tell you how 1274 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,150 they contributed. And we start off I believe with an anonymous 1275 01:15:06,210 --> 01:15:07,050 donation. 1276 01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:10,890 John C. Dvorak: Yes. As a matter of fact, we do have our top 1277 01:15:10,890 --> 01:15:17,820 donation is anonymous. Yeah. Oh, you know, you know, I have his 1278 01:15:17,820 --> 01:15:21,840 note, unfortunately, leftover on the other desk. So, hold on one 1279 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:22,080 sec, 1280 01:15:22,110 --> 01:15:28,440 Adam Curry: okay. Just to fill up the time. It's always fun to 1281 01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:33,480 do. Because they always come through the Squirrel Man. Then 1282 01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:37,080 he prints it out on his printer, leaves it on the other side of 1283 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:37,470 the room. 1284 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,330 But that's okay. He's often getting his name is JC Dirac and 1285 01:15:42,330 --> 01:15:45,120 you know that he likes to print out things from the best mail 1286 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,680 program in the universe 1287 01:15:55,980 --> 01:16:00,510 John C. Dvorak: anonymous says right across the top. Send a 1288 01:16:00,510 --> 01:16:06,330 check in obviously, John and Adam. I've been a listener since 1289 01:16:06,510 --> 01:16:10,260 the fall of 220 15 when I was working 14 hour days installing 1290 01:16:10,260 --> 01:16:12,840 Windows operating systems in retail stores. 1291 01:16:13,980 --> 01:16:16,620 Adam Curry: My goodness, that is a harsh gig. 1292 01:16:17,339 --> 01:16:20,309 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. At the time no agenda was one of many 1293 01:16:20,309 --> 01:16:23,939 podcasts I would listen to during my commute to work and to 1294 01:16:23,939 --> 01:16:26,999 college. Now however, the quality of both sound and 1295 01:16:26,999 --> 01:16:32,189 content has made no agenda stand above all others in the 1296 01:16:32,189 --> 01:16:38,159 universe. Thank you. Every time Adam has grown about low 1297 01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:44,549 donations or about ending the show, I have I have screamed in 1298 01:16:44,549 --> 01:16:50,909 my car wallowing in my flagrant douchebaggery but no residual 1299 01:16:50,909 --> 01:16:56,669 jobs karma has have karma is karma has have collected 1300 01:16:57,179 --> 01:17:01,319 collected that's what it says upon me like dirt on a popsicle 1301 01:17:01,979 --> 01:17:08,009 is very funny. So it's a very like any lie like any other 1302 01:17:08,009 --> 01:17:11,489 producer would prefer to present this instant night donation in 1303 01:17:11,519 --> 01:17:17,759 something as Raven announces John to the stage. Hopefully a 1304 01:17:17,759 --> 01:17:21,719 check will do as well. He's also an Eagle Scout a dude named Ben 1305 01:17:21,719 --> 01:17:28,439 and a ham soon to be makes all that you do. Very common. If he 1306 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:29,729 was a Marine, it'd be even more 1307 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,580 Adam Curry: so he needs douching and some karma Doesn't anybody 1308 01:17:32,580 --> 01:17:34,140 has some specific request still 1309 01:17:34,140 --> 01:17:36,210 John C. Dvorak: reading Okay, thanks for all that you do to 1310 01:17:36,210 --> 01:17:38,670 conserve the stress of the Migdal is across the globe 1311 01:17:38,670 --> 01:17:44,460 please Knight me sir rib ear. reappear, Ruby or so. 1312 01:17:44,970 --> 01:17:45,720 Adam Curry: So Ruby, 1313 01:17:46,230 --> 01:17:54,390 John C. Dvorak: please D Do you do jobs Klarman he has jingles 1314 01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:58,500 Adam Curry: on second this is not on my list so it's anonymous 1315 01:17:58,650 --> 01:18:03,150 on your list becomes sir. What was it 1316 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,910 John C. Dvorak: all right b dash E or E AR 1317 01:18:06,030 --> 01:18:08,370 Adam Curry: revere okay and does it need anything at the table 1318 01:18:08,370 --> 01:18:09,360 for the roundtable 1319 01:18:09,870 --> 01:18:12,690 John C. Dvorak: doesn't say okay, but he wants that's wrong 1320 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,810 chemtrails. That's true and Hillary laughed. 1321 01:18:17,370 --> 01:18:18,240 Adam Curry: That's wrong. 1322 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,820 John C. Dvorak: That's wrong. Which is that's wrong. I think 1323 01:18:20,820 --> 01:18:24,570 there's a Peterson clip. Okay chemtrails, which is a favorite 1324 01:18:24,570 --> 01:18:29,160 of yours. That's true. That's true. And that Hillary laugh 1325 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:30,300 hmm, 1326 01:18:30,330 --> 01:18:32,850 Adam Curry: I can't find that that's wrong. Oh yeah, that's 1327 01:18:32,850 --> 01:18:37,260 wrong. That's true, too. I didn't have this one set up. And 1328 01:18:37,260 --> 01:18:39,180 then Hillary laugh or a cackle 1329 01:18:40,260 --> 01:18:42,540 John C. Dvorak: just says laugh and chemtrails 1330 01:18:43,980 --> 01:18:46,590 Adam Curry: and chemtrails. Why wouldn't we have all of that 1331 01:18:46,590 --> 01:19:01,320 stuff? Okay, that's raw. That's true you know what that was? I 1332 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:02,250 tried okay. 1333 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,640 John C. Dvorak: It was good. It was it was funnier than it would 1334 01:19:06,060 --> 01:19:06,570 think. 1335 01:19:06,750 --> 01:19:08,970 Unknown: I don't know what happened. All right. 1336 01:19:10,740 --> 01:19:13,440 John C. Dvorak: We know you've exposed yourself as someone who 1337 01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:14,340 prepares 1338 01:19:14,370 --> 01:19:18,480 Adam Curry: No Well normally I prepare Yes of course. Yes, sir. 1339 01:19:18,900 --> 01:19:20,580 You're a preparer or try 1340 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:27,900 John C. Dvorak: a Sir Stephen of Oh SWACO to $756 even a 1341 01:19:27,930 --> 01:19:33,330 completing out my Baron net TIDs Baron net. See the counting 1342 01:19:33,330 --> 01:19:37,440 below and the rounding up to make it 18 times 42? 1343 01:19:37,500 --> 01:19:40,020 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, like that. shapeshifting donation? 1344 01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:42,750 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, the shapeshifting donation times 42. 1345 01:19:42,750 --> 01:19:44,610 That could be answered everything in the universe. 1346 01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,750 Nice. That's Jewish lucky times the meaning of life. The 1347 01:19:48,750 --> 01:19:52,860 universe and everything is got to make it super extra like you 1348 01:19:52,860 --> 01:19:55,980 right. All I need is karma. I didn't get the divorce karma I 1349 01:19:55,980 --> 01:19:59,970 requested in March. But I guess the universe decided mine 1350 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,350 knighthood was enough. So I got through it just finished buying 1351 01:20:04,350 --> 01:20:08,490 a townhouse so the kids have a stable home base. So this karma 1352 01:20:08,490 --> 01:20:13,350 is for my smokin hot girlfriend that I can turn into a new milk 1353 01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:14,130 someday. 1354 01:20:15,090 --> 01:20:18,450 Adam Curry: Wow, I love your goals my friend Thank you Sir 1355 01:20:18,450 --> 01:20:22,560 Stephen of us rego. That's one mother. I'd like. 1356 01:20:24,750 --> 01:20:26,430 Unknown: You've got karma 1357 01:20:30,210 --> 01:20:34,620 John C. Dvorak: James Vargas coming up with $666 Jersey City, 1358 01:20:34,620 --> 01:20:38,160 New Jersey. My first donation was exactly two years ago when I 1359 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,430 played no agenne on a road trip for my girlfriend, and she asked 1360 01:20:41,430 --> 01:20:46,140 me if I'd ever donated. Good for her. I love her with all my 1361 01:20:46,140 --> 01:20:49,620 heart and I promptly deduced myself. Fast forward two years 1362 01:20:49,620 --> 01:20:52,800 and we've now created our own true crime podcast direct 1363 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,940 appeal. My girlfriend's a criminologist and as an 1364 01:20:56,940 --> 01:21:01,290 exclusive interviews with a woman whom the media dubbed the 1365 01:21:01,290 --> 01:21:05,940 suitcase killer, the suitcase killer for the murder of her 1366 01:21:05,940 --> 01:21:10,440 husband, she claims her innocence. And we are exploring 1367 01:21:10,440 --> 01:21:15,630 the case which is active Dookie. It's a classic podcasting genre. 1368 01:21:15,690 --> 01:21:16,110 Yes, 1369 01:21:16,110 --> 01:21:18,270 Adam Curry: it's very popular. Yes, 1370 01:21:18,299 --> 01:21:20,879 John C. Dvorak: I have supported no agenda show in several ways 1371 01:21:20,879 --> 01:21:24,449 over the years by creating artwork three times and having 1372 01:21:24,449 --> 01:21:28,559 the honor of being on record as the first to identify Mark 1373 01:21:28,559 --> 01:21:32,969 Bognor. Oh yes, I wanted to give the pod father his due in his 1374 01:21:32,969 --> 01:21:37,469 own words and would be honored to have Adam credited as 1375 01:21:37,469 --> 01:21:42,419 producer at large for our podcast. I've taken many of 1376 01:21:42,449 --> 01:21:46,919 Adams studio tips to heart and I sincerely doubt we would have 1377 01:21:46,919 --> 01:21:50,819 this show without my patronage to the to this show to no 1378 01:21:50,819 --> 01:21:53,639 agenda, so credit where credit is due. I'm so thrilled to 1379 01:21:53,639 --> 01:21:57,749 finally be a knight and choose the name sir snores a lot 1380 01:21:57,870 --> 01:21:59,970 Adam Curry: outstayed. Actually, I'm gonna listen to them. Listen 1381 01:21:59,970 --> 01:22:05,370 to your show. Was it called direct appeal? The true crime 1382 01:22:05,370 --> 01:22:09,000 genre. And what's interesting about the true crime genre is 1383 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:13,830 that at least four of them have now gone on to become either 1384 01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:18,720 Netflix or Amazon series. Yeah, so that you can really boost 1385 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,610 into something crazy crazy good from 1386 01:22:20,610 --> 01:22:24,870 John C. Dvorak: that deal with our show. So no. Can you imagine 1387 01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:26,310 Netflix anytime soon? 1388 01:22:28,230 --> 01:22:31,320 Adam Curry: Hey, I got a Netflix special. 1389 01:22:32,700 --> 01:22:34,260 John C. Dvorak: No, no, no, no. 1390 01:22:35,340 --> 01:22:36,120 Adam Curry: That's very good. 1391 01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:40,830 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, nothing did you give me your game karma? 1392 01:22:40,860 --> 01:22:44,700 Adam Curry: Yeah. Did I know I'm gonna do it right now. 1393 01:22:46,830 --> 01:22:49,890 You've got karma? Yeah, go check that out. 1394 01:22:50,610 --> 01:22:53,370 John C. Dvorak: direct appeal. astrodon Sir Mark gathered 1395 01:22:53,370 --> 01:22:58,620 together. Oh, wow. They jumped on the bandwagon here and 1396 01:22:58,620 --> 01:23:04,410 they're in Tokyo. Two great architects. World 555 1397 01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:06,420 Adam Curry: Some of the best in the world. These two are 1398 01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:09,330 John C. Dvorak: world class architects. Wishing you lots of 1399 01:23:09,330 --> 01:23:13,740 happiness and countless candles around the bathtub. Wink wink 1400 01:23:15,810 --> 01:23:19,530 damn as you're picking up on that little meme that I 1401 01:23:19,530 --> 01:23:24,450 identified. But Adam take those hearing aids out before you take 1402 01:23:24,450 --> 01:23:29,010 a dive lest you get electrocuted. at weddings in 1403 01:23:29,010 --> 01:23:31,440 Japan is accustomed to give elaborate envelopes which will 1404 01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:35,100 send by snail mail later with money gifts for good luck out of 1405 01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:39,090 an enumeration that cannot be split into ah so that's always 1406 01:23:39,090 --> 01:23:41,610 the tradition never be able to split in two so that's Deus 1407 01:23:41,610 --> 01:23:42,870 555 55 1408 01:23:43,050 --> 01:23:47,340 Adam Curry: Oh interesting how these traditions we have the the 1409 01:23:47,340 --> 01:23:51,420 Jewish eight multiples of 18 we have Japanese can't be split 1410 01:23:51,420 --> 01:23:55,740 into which makes sense. So you have a union a unity is cool. 1411 01:23:57,690 --> 01:24:00,090 John C. Dvorak: John, would you send a lavish Japanese wedding 1412 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,360 envelope to of course if you want to get married more often? 1413 01:24:04,770 --> 01:24:07,740 Already I'd see okay. From Tokyo with love to the whole 1414 01:24:07,740 --> 01:24:11,130 enterprise DeMasters Sir Mark Duke and Duchess of Japan and 1415 01:24:11,130 --> 01:24:13,440 all the disputed islands in the Japanese sea 1416 01:24:13,470 --> 01:24:17,940 Adam Curry: long, long, long, long time. Supporters of the 1417 01:24:17,940 --> 01:24:20,760 podcast the no agenda show thank you so much. It's very clear. 1418 01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:23,670 I'm gonna give them a Karma just just because we love them. 1419 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:28,410 You've got karma and we learned something cannot be split into. 1420 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:29,580 Thank you. Yeah, 1421 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,840 John C. Dvorak: that's a new one. Yes. Well, we also learned 1422 01:24:33,870 --> 01:24:36,450 back on Valentine's Day that the chocolates are bought for the 1423 01:24:36,450 --> 01:24:38,610 men from the masjid Oh, 1424 01:24:38,610 --> 01:24:41,100 Adam Curry: that's right. Yes. Yeah, it men get a good deal in 1425 01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:41,580 Japan. 1426 01:24:41,940 --> 01:24:46,830 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. You can do gene Cha there is like a Texas 1427 01:24:46,830 --> 01:24:52,680 and also the sheriff the sheriff thanks for the well wishes 1428 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,280 common for my father's full recovery. Sorry missing everyone 1429 01:24:56,280 --> 01:25:01,170 at the wedding Atlas Shrugged plus Monsanto, 70 threes. K five 1430 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,850 s t b e 1431 01:25:04,170 --> 01:25:08,010 i think i have pulled those five get five and five. 1432 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:13,830 Adam Curry: We'd like to say kilo fives in in the jargon oh 1433 01:25:13,830 --> 01:25:15,300 that didn't go well try again 1434 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:23,760 Unknown: by Imran Rand thanks Jane. 1435 01:25:23,820 --> 01:25:25,500 You've got karma 1436 01:25:25,530 --> 01:25:29,040 Adam Curry: glad everything's okay I'm glad you're back in ATX 1437 01:25:29,340 --> 01:25:33,570 John C. Dvorak: servility sir villas at $233 be an Associate 1438 01:25:33,570 --> 01:25:37,410 Executive Producer please refer to me as such it has been a year 1439 01:25:37,410 --> 01:25:39,870 since my last donation I asked for jobs calm and shortly 1440 01:25:39,870 --> 01:25:41,250 thereafter lost my job. 1441 01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,940 Adam Curry: Oh, this is not a good note. Yeah, 1442 01:25:44,970 --> 01:25:46,890 John C. Dvorak: in my deployed for 11 months now we're trying 1443 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,560 maybe it was one that period of time where we're doing the wrong 1444 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,830 jobs I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a new remember that could be 1445 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:57,660 we had this thing I've mentioned this to newcomers or people that 1446 01:25:57,660 --> 01:26:01,050 didn't hear it the first time. When we had the Seattle meet up, 1447 01:26:01,050 --> 01:26:04,950 somebody came up to me and told me that they that the jobs karma 1448 01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:09,480 that included Trump saying jobs jobs job, Jinx them, and he did 1449 01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:13,650 work for about a year same as this guy. And we were doling out 1450 01:26:13,650 --> 01:26:13,980 that, 1451 01:26:14,250 --> 01:26:17,550 Adam Curry: that left and right, left and right. Yeah, yeah, 1452 01:26:17,550 --> 01:26:17,760 we've 1453 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,340 John C. Dvorak: been we were doling out that faulty job. Shit 1454 01:26:20,340 --> 01:26:23,190 Adam Curry: was tainted. That was off. It was passed this past 1455 01:26:23,190 --> 01:26:24,840 a day. It was tainted karma. 1456 01:26:25,349 --> 01:26:27,989 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And it did. We did that for some time. 1457 01:26:27,989 --> 01:26:31,319 We once we came up with the Trump one, but then we now since 1458 01:26:31,319 --> 01:26:34,139 reverted, yeah, we don't use it anymore. Under any 1459 01:26:34,139 --> 01:26:38,669 circumstances. Oh, somebody did request it once. On purpose. I 1460 01:26:38,669 --> 01:26:40,889 didn't play for 11 months now. We're trying to buy a business 1461 01:26:40,889 --> 01:26:43,139 to sell our house moved to Northern Minnesota and find a 1462 01:26:43,139 --> 01:26:46,259 house in the tough housing market. Little or no inventory 1463 01:26:46,259 --> 01:26:50,639 in the North Shore and running into unexpected undisclosed buy 1464 01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:54,749 seller delays, complications, only request karma. Thanks for 1465 01:26:54,749 --> 01:26:58,409 the great show. I hit my son Zoomer in the mouth five years 1466 01:26:58,409 --> 01:27:02,249 ago, and you're keeping his sanity as he struggles in the 1467 01:27:02,249 --> 01:27:04,079 college campus culture. 1468 01:27:04,440 --> 01:27:06,900 Adam Curry: Excellent. What do you think we should do? I mean, 1469 01:27:06,900 --> 01:27:10,440 does he says I only want karma, but can we just give him the old 1470 01:27:10,440 --> 01:27:12,450 school official Nancy jobs karma? 1471 01:27:12,990 --> 01:27:14,550 John C. Dvorak: He didn't request it. I don't think we 1472 01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:15,570 should give it to him. Okay. 1473 01:27:16,770 --> 01:27:17,670 Adam Curry: Thank you stability, 1474 01:27:17,730 --> 01:27:19,410 Unknown: you've got karma. 1475 01:27:21,330 --> 01:27:24,030 John C. Dvorak: But he should be at least aware of the fact that 1476 01:27:24,030 --> 01:27:27,330 we had this. I don't know if that was effective product. So 1477 01:27:27,330 --> 01:27:28,950 let's recall 1478 01:27:28,980 --> 01:27:31,440 Adam Curry: so let's put it this way. If he goes back and he 1479 01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:34,890 finds out that he was using that he did receive the defective 1480 01:27:34,890 --> 01:27:40,020 product, we'd be more than happy to give him a full on Nancy jobs 1481 01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:45,240 karma. Just let us know. Yeah, of course, we were always greet 1482 01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:47,490 John C. Dvorak: worldwide recall. 1483 01:27:48,870 --> 01:27:53,250 Adam Curry: Anyone who had yes, if you had the Trump jobs karma 1484 01:27:53,460 --> 01:27:57,330 at this, consider this your recall? And let your dealer know 1485 01:27:57,390 --> 01:28:00,570 so that we can set you straight and do your right. 1486 01:28:01,050 --> 01:28:05,040 John C. Dvorak: Christopher Walker comes in at $2.01 in the 1487 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,770 morning, thank you for your courage. The no agenda shows the 1488 01:28:07,770 --> 01:28:11,070 best podcast in the universe without a doubt. Good tidings to 1489 01:28:11,070 --> 01:28:14,910 you pot father and Mrs. Pot father as well as well. Also to 1490 01:28:14,910 --> 01:28:17,610 the author of the future best selling vinegar book. Good 1491 01:28:17,610 --> 01:28:22,920 tidings, sir. Ah, lest I forget the squeaky chair karma, please 1492 01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:28,830 for the chair, or we will not hear the end of it. Now down to 1493 01:28:28,830 --> 01:28:31,830 brass tacks. The show is great in observance of Memorial Day. 1494 01:28:31,830 --> 01:28:34,620 I'd like to ask for this karma please for the family and 1495 01:28:34,620 --> 01:28:39,090 friends of Dustin Crider. While we were in Iraq, I watched poor 1496 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,870 Dustin Crider get shot in the face and chest during a test 1497 01:28:42,870 --> 01:28:47,250 fire tragedy during 2004 There were no bands playing when he 1498 01:28:47,250 --> 01:28:51,300 died and it wasn't very glorious. Okay, well give him 1499 01:28:51,300 --> 01:28:51,870 some comments as 1500 01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:55,500 Adam Curry: well and thank you for helping everyone remember 1501 01:28:55,530 --> 01:29:01,560 what Memorial Day truly is about it is about the Fallen men and 1502 01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:08,370 women fallen and you know for most it's mattress sale I think 1503 01:29:08,370 --> 01:29:10,830 is how we celebrate that in America. It's it's quite 1504 01:29:10,830 --> 01:29:14,700 disgusting tag day coming from a long line of military and 1505 01:29:14,700 --> 01:29:17,880 intelligence operatives in the United States. Thank you for 1506 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:22,890 reminding us. Christopher and this of course goes out to 1507 01:29:23,310 --> 01:29:24,450 Dustin and his family. 1508 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,230 Unknown: You've got karma 1509 01:29:30,300 --> 01:29:33,000 John C. Dvorak: very good to Mark Wilson wraps things up from 1510 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,900 the bees the bear in the Glasgow gents The show has been 1511 01:29:36,930 --> 01:29:40,320 excellent as always. Can I please have a jobs come with the 1512 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,860 sight of I've got ants. Cheers. Sure. Mark Wilson Baron. It 1513 01:29:44,340 --> 01:29:46,140 Adam Curry: seems like we should be able to do at least a little 1514 01:29:46,140 --> 01:29:48,870 bit of that. Thank you very much. You got your karma coming 1515 01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:51,330 up in a few minutes after we hear from John and the ants 1516 01:29:51,360 --> 01:30:03,420 again ants. Ants Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. 1517 01:30:07,649 --> 01:30:09,299 Unknown: You've got karma. 1518 01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,380 Adam Curry: Always a fan favorite. Always. 1519 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:16,590 John C. Dvorak: So want to thank these folks, they're the 1520 01:30:16,590 --> 01:30:19,470 producers and executive producers show 1141 1521 01:30:19,860 --> 01:30:24,150 Adam Curry: Yeah, and I got something in my Pio box. Pio box 1522 01:30:24,180 --> 01:30:31,920 18 20978760 in Austin, Texas. It was from Sir D. H slammer and 1523 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,530 the whole family is always so cute. This is a family that 1524 01:30:34,530 --> 01:30:39,450 listens to no agenda as a family. So yes, sir. DH Slammer 1525 01:30:39,450 --> 01:30:46,500 Dame bang, bang. We've got Sir Andrew, Master Emmett. And who 1526 01:30:46,500 --> 01:30:50,250 am I forgetting here? Oh, here we the Baron and Baroness of the 1527 01:30:50,250 --> 01:30:54,030 Central California coast venture to Santa Cruz Dame Simona of the 1528 01:30:54,030 --> 01:30:56,730 purple goats are Andrew Keeper of the Mountains and master 1529 01:30:56,730 --> 01:31:00,540 Edmond selected this fine craft brew. While we are spirit 1530 01:31:00,540 --> 01:31:03,780 tasting in Big Bear, California, bear don't worry about it, the 1531 01:31:03,780 --> 01:31:07,500 kids can hold their liquor. And he sent us a nice six pack of 1532 01:31:07,500 --> 01:31:10,860 blonde 33, which made a lot of sense to us, of course, and it 1533 01:31:10,860 --> 01:31:15,450 was nice to receive a letter in the PIO box, which was sealed by 1534 01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:18,930 night sealing wax and the signet ring, you too could have one of 1535 01:31:18,930 --> 01:31:21,780 those or you could just feel good about being a part of the 1536 01:31:21,780 --> 01:31:25,890 no agenda value for value network. It's very simple. You 1537 01:31:25,890 --> 01:31:28,260 heard the show did you learn anything? Was it worth anything 1538 01:31:28,260 --> 01:31:32,730 to you? If it was and is that equivalent to divorce.org/and I 1539 01:31:32,730 --> 01:31:35,010 will actually go over there and see what you could do because 1540 01:31:35,010 --> 01:31:37,770 you can do a lot thank you to these executive producers and 1541 01:31:37,770 --> 01:31:41,010 Associate Executive Producers valuable credits that are 1542 01:31:41,010 --> 01:31:45,240 accepted anywhere true true show business credits are recognized 1543 01:31:45,270 --> 01:31:49,440 Unknown: for.org/and A That's right. 1544 01:31:49,650 --> 01:31:51,750 Adam Curry: We got it all right here it's called Hidden people 1545 01:31:51,750 --> 01:31:53,850 now we got to propagate our formula 1546 01:31:53,880 --> 01:32:08,460 Unknown: is this we go out for yet people in the mouth attack 1547 01:32:16,290 --> 01:32:24,900 Dookie. We hit Sorry, 1548 01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:26,130 Adam Curry: I was gonna go ahead and 1549 01:32:26,190 --> 01:32:28,290 John C. Dvorak: a bunch of these guys coming out of the woodwork 1550 01:32:28,290 --> 01:32:31,440 these never Trumpers I wish to put them on the air and give 1551 01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:32,910 them all this time is annoying, 1552 01:32:32,940 --> 01:32:34,860 Adam Curry: man. It's kind of annoying. We even had talked 1553 01:32:34,860 --> 01:32:38,850 about it. Here. It is. So what do you got them? 1554 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,750 John C. Dvorak: But this guy Tom Coleman. Oh, a new guy. Who's 1555 01:32:42,750 --> 01:32:46,020 this guy? No, he's an old guy. He was a Trump hater. He got 1556 01:32:46,050 --> 01:32:50,490 kicked out of office. And so now he shows up on CNN talking about 1557 01:32:50,490 --> 01:32:52,560 how the President should be impeached. I don't know if we 1558 01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,830 should play it. Probably not. Okay, then 1559 01:32:55,830 --> 01:33:01,200 Adam Curry: let's How about this? Very interesting. I've 1560 01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:06,420 helped several people immigrate into the United States, as you 1561 01:33:06,420 --> 01:33:11,010 have Yes. And through official means official ways. And I 1562 01:33:11,010 --> 01:33:14,670 haven't married all of them. Just so you know. And I'm always 1563 01:33:14,670 --> 01:33:19,980 happy to help. But there is a very specific when you petition 1564 01:33:20,010 --> 01:33:23,520 that's that's the official term. When you petition for someone to 1565 01:33:23,580 --> 01:33:26,580 legally immigrate into United States, there comes 1566 01:33:26,610 --> 01:33:30,180 responsibility with that. It's actually a quite a big 1567 01:33:30,180 --> 01:33:37,290 responsibility, which is you stand as, as you as a what is 1568 01:33:37,290 --> 01:33:41,520 the term I'm looking for you guarantee that if anything goes 1569 01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:45,000 wrong with this person in their trial period? 1570 01:33:45,420 --> 01:33:47,490 John C. Dvorak: Yes, you get deported. 1571 01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:53,580 Adam Curry: You don't get deported. But no, you won't get 1572 01:33:53,580 --> 01:33:57,120 deported. But you are responsible for any costs or 1573 01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:01,200 anything any burden on society. It's spelled out quite clearly. 1574 01:34:01,650 --> 01:34:07,110 And this has been part of law for, in fact, the I think it was 1575 01:34:07,110 --> 01:34:11,250 99. In the 1996. The illegal immigration reform and 1576 01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:16,560 immigration Immigrant Responsibility Act, made it a 1577 01:34:16,590 --> 01:34:20,850 took it one step further. And the welfare reform reform laws 1578 01:34:20,910 --> 01:34:23,760 enacted by Clinton, who was then President, the law stated that 1579 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,820 immigrants should not depend on public resources to meet their 1580 01:34:26,820 --> 01:34:30,600 needs. But this has never been enforced. Although I've always 1581 01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,020 felt that, you know, I can just I'm responsible, something 1582 01:34:34,020 --> 01:34:36,600 happens. I know they can come to me never happened. There was 1583 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,480 never a reason for it. Bricks. Turns out this thing has never 1584 01:34:39,480 --> 01:34:45,240 been enforced. Never. And this includes social services. More 1585 01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:50,100 interesting. Martha McCollum on Fox News, has no idea about 1586 01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:50,550 this. 1587 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,710 Unknown: So with regard to immigration, there was an 1588 01:34:52,710 --> 01:34:55,320 announcement today that basically people who had 1589 01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:58,860 sponsored immigrants to come into the country are going to be 1590 01:34:58,860 --> 01:35:03,030 responsible for repaying any of the benefits that they take 1591 01:35:03,030 --> 01:35:04,950 advantage of? How's that gonna work? 1592 01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,500 Oh, absolutely. It's actually already codified in the law was 1593 01:35:07,500 --> 01:35:11,880 passed in 1996 signed by Bill Clinton. It just hasn't been 1594 01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,790 enforced. Shockingly, the swamp takes over again. But this 1595 01:35:14,790 --> 01:35:18,060 president says no more. It's time for those sponsors, who 1596 01:35:18,060 --> 01:35:21,660 said that they would pay for dollar for dollar matches to any 1597 01:35:21,660 --> 01:35:25,230 federal program that paid for immigrants, it's time for them 1598 01:35:25,380 --> 01:35:27,960 to have some skin in the game here. It's a kickstart actually 1599 01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,780 to the merit based system we've talked about before. We want 1600 01:35:30,780 --> 01:35:33,600 immigrants in this country, we're not even changing the 1.1 1601 01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:36,420 million immigrants that come here every year. We're not 1602 01:35:36,420 --> 01:35:39,450 changing that number. But we're changing the construct of those 1603 01:35:39,450 --> 01:35:42,990 who come we want people to contribute not to be a drain on 1604 01:35:43,170 --> 01:35:46,050 the American economy, or our social safety net programs that 1605 01:35:46,050 --> 01:35:48,960 the American people deserve. Right now, immigrants are taking 1606 01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,080 advantage of it. And the sponsors by law are supposed to 1607 01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,290 pay for that. And it's time for them to put in their fair share. 1608 01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:56,100 Well, let me ask you this. 1609 01:35:56,130 --> 01:35:58,890 Adam Curry: Hi. Um, so, yes, you're gonna say some 1610 01:35:59,250 --> 01:36:00,060 John C. Dvorak: shit. Yay. 1611 01:36:00,210 --> 01:36:03,240 Adam Curry: I was gonna say this. There are so many laws 1612 01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:07,380 that apparently are just not enforced. Who knew? Totally, who 1613 01:36:07,380 --> 01:36:09,780 knew about this? I didn't know that. That wasn't enforced. It 1614 01:36:09,780 --> 01:36:16,200 seems like a non brainer. Just a no brainer. Say, hey, this 1615 01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,710 person is no good. You got to pay up. You're responsible come 1616 01:36:19,710 --> 01:36:24,150 knocking on your door. I'm surprised by this. Hey, Martha 1617 01:36:24,150 --> 01:36:25,380 McCollum didn't even know it existed. 1618 01:36:25,770 --> 01:36:27,780 John C. Dvorak: How are you how you're gonna make that work? I 1619 01:36:27,780 --> 01:36:31,470 didn't know it existed. I don't think you can bolt her. You 1620 01:36:31,470 --> 01:36:32,700 didn't know it exists. She's 1621 01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:34,560 Adam Curry: a white woman. I can do whatever I want to say about 1622 01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:40,260 her skin in the game skin in the game. Exactly. Where does this 1623 01:36:40,260 --> 01:36:42,810 come from? The term skin and origin 1624 01:36:42,810 --> 01:36:47,700 John C. Dvorak: of the phrase is unknown. Really? Yeah, this has 1625 01:36:47,700 --> 01:36:52,800 been commonly been attributed to Warren Buffett, referring to his 1626 01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:58,290 own investment in his initial fund. However, William sapphire 1627 01:36:58,290 --> 01:37:02,460 refutes Buffett as the source of the phrase, pointing to earlier 1628 01:37:02,460 --> 01:37:09,180 instances. Say may come from Merchant of Venice to 1629 01:37:09,300 --> 01:37:14,220 Shakespeare's play in which the antagonist Shylock stipulates 1630 01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:18,210 that the protagonist Antonio, must promise a pound of his own 1631 01:37:18,210 --> 01:37:19,980 flesh as ca that's 1632 01:37:20,130 --> 01:37:22,380 Adam Curry: the pound of flesh. There you go. That's the skin in 1633 01:37:22,380 --> 01:37:29,640 the game. That would make sense. Maybe have a received a clip, 1634 01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,460 it's actually a video clip, I can play some audio from it from 1635 01:37:32,460 --> 01:37:36,630 the no agenda Technology Lab. Now, we did some testing on one 1636 01:37:36,630 --> 01:37:41,730 of our recent products that we were discussing on the show. And 1637 01:37:41,730 --> 01:37:45,030 this is your power line transmission. What are they 1638 01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:49,680 called? Exactly? Powerline Ethernet lug, home home plug, 1639 01:37:51,090 --> 01:37:54,510 your internet button plug home plug what is called home plug. 1640 01:37:54,510 --> 01:37:55,590 That's what it's called. That's the 1641 01:37:55,710 --> 01:37:57,480 John C. Dvorak: standard. Yeah, one of the there's two 1642 01:37:57,480 --> 01:37:59,880 standards. Your home plug is the one this is the most popular. 1643 01:38:00,030 --> 01:38:00,930 And I 1644 01:38:01,020 --> 01:38:03,750 Adam Curry: and I say well, these things are a problem as 1645 01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:07,740 far as I know, because they interfere with ham radio 1646 01:38:07,740 --> 01:38:13,080 operators and who knows what else is so one of our producers 1647 01:38:13,350 --> 01:38:18,360 took it into the lab. And let me see. I don't know if you want 1648 01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:23,280 his Well, his YouTube name is fidget MC fidget run. So I'll 1649 01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:25,440 just leave it at that. And here he is. 1650 01:38:25,470 --> 01:38:27,600 John C. Dvorak: Alright, so as per John's recommendation on 1651 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,870 getting a powerline adapter for getting internet into other 1652 01:38:30,870 --> 01:38:34,230 places of your home, I decided to get one for my garage because 1653 01:38:34,230 --> 01:38:37,140 that's where my SDR hangout is. 1654 01:38:37,470 --> 01:38:40,680 Adam Curry: SDR is software defined radio. So he's listening 1655 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:42,120 to the ham bands. 1656 01:38:42,330 --> 01:38:44,250 John C. Dvorak: So I got a ferrite choke on the receiving 1657 01:38:44,250 --> 01:38:49,320 end and on the output and into the computer. And let me pull up 1658 01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:53,220 fast.com right here and watch the web browser pops up. There 1659 01:38:53,220 --> 01:38:57,060 we go. Got a fast.com speed test going and look at all the QR 1660 01:38:57,090 --> 01:39:00,870 code that this thing is putting out and then watch as it closes 1661 01:39:00,870 --> 01:39:08,280 my browser a couple seconds. Kills and there's a little 1662 01:39:09,300 --> 01:39:11,310 Adam Curry: so what you obviously aren't seeing but you 1663 01:39:11,310 --> 01:39:15,870 can kind of hear is the minute he starts to use a lot of data 1664 01:39:16,500 --> 01:39:20,730 though says he's using a speed test website. It just completely 1665 01:39:20,730 --> 01:39:23,460 fills up the entire bandwidth noise you'll 1666 01:39:23,460 --> 01:39:28,380 John C. Dvorak: hear it returned I believe that has also caused 1667 01:39:28,380 --> 01:39:31,290 by this powerline adapter so it looks like I'm gonna have to 1668 01:39:31,290 --> 01:39:34,680 find a different way to get internet into the garage. Adam 1669 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:38,430 was right this thing these things cosmodic QR QR Ambani 1670 01:39:38,430 --> 01:39:42,630 because this was a really easy thing to do is plug in plug in, 1671 01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:46,710 pair it and go. I'm gonna have to trench out my backyard. Oh 1672 01:39:46,710 --> 01:39:48,690 well. seven degrees. There you 1673 01:39:48,690 --> 01:39:50,400 Adam Curry: go. Ladies and gentlemen straight from the no 1674 01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:54,990 agenda Technology Labs. These things are great unless you are 1675 01:39:54,990 --> 01:40:01,020 also a ham radio operator then they're not so great. I wonder 1676 01:40:01,020 --> 01:40:02,580 what else they interfere if 1677 01:40:02,579 --> 01:40:06,929 John C. Dvorak: his rig is plugged into the power line that 1678 01:40:06,929 --> 01:40:09,059 he's using for doing the data transfer 1679 01:40:09,060 --> 01:40:11,760 Adam Curry: tow so now we have stipulations. Okay, 1680 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:13,590 John C. Dvorak: so I stipulation that I want to know if you can 1681 01:40:13,590 --> 01:40:17,460 have just like an icon one of these one of these battery 1682 01:40:17,460 --> 01:40:18,120 powered, 1683 01:40:19,199 --> 01:40:20,789 Adam Curry: right not not plugged in 1684 01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:24,210 John C. Dvorak: devices, not plugged into the same system. 1685 01:40:24,539 --> 01:40:27,539 Adam Curry: Bad you have this battery powered hand check. 1686 01:40:27,930 --> 01:40:30,990 John C. Dvorak: I agree. It's it's handy. I can see it being a 1687 01:40:30,990 --> 01:40:33,960 problem if you're, yeah, that software defined radios really 1688 01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,960 picky and it's about noise issues. And so you got a lot of 1689 01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:40,560 noise. Okay. That's what was was was supposed to say. But the 1690 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:43,800 other but the the main problem was, it's the guy across the 1691 01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:48,720 street. That was in the olden days was bitching. So I don't 1692 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:52,290 think that he did. This is not a test. That's the one I want to 1693 01:40:52,290 --> 01:40:55,050 see. I want to see the test of the guy across the street now. 1694 01:40:55,050 --> 01:40:58,770 So in other words, I want to the powerline adapter plugged in in 1695 01:40:58,770 --> 01:41:04,920 a different house. And does it affect him in his house? Because 1696 01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:08,730 that was the bitch about the ham guys early on. Is that you plug 1697 01:41:08,730 --> 01:41:10,800 it in anywhere in the neighborhood. No, the ham guys 1698 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:11,430 are screwed. 1699 01:41:11,460 --> 01:41:14,460 Adam Curry: Right so it may not carry. Okay, well, we're sending 1700 01:41:14,460 --> 01:41:16,680 it back to the lab. John. They will figure it out 1701 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,720 John C. Dvorak: for us. Secondary testing. 1702 01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,980 Adam Curry: Several articles showing up in the Washington 1703 01:41:22,980 --> 01:41:25,680 Post The New York Times. In fact, I'll give you some 1704 01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:31,320 headlines here. America cities are unlivable blame wealthy 1705 01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:35,760 liberals New York Times how San Francisco broke America's heart 1706 01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:40,020 to Washington Post. There's a trash and rodent nightmare in 1707 01:41:40,020 --> 01:41:44,520 downtown LA with plenty of blame to go around Los Angeles time on 1708 01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:48,660 it plague rats feasting on huge trash pile sparks fears or 1709 01:41:48,660 --> 01:41:50,940 bubonic plague outbreak in LA. 1710 01:41:51,780 --> 01:41:54,960 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. What was interested cleaning up the mess? 1711 01:41:54,990 --> 01:41:56,490 Well, was asking too much. 1712 01:41:56,519 --> 01:42:00,419 Adam Curry: What's interesting about the Los Angeles timepiece 1713 01:42:00,779 --> 01:42:08,969 is that apparently the businesses downtown in Los 1714 01:42:08,969 --> 01:42:14,189 Angeles are paying some of the well, I don't know if they're 1715 01:42:14,219 --> 01:42:17,099 all well, they by definition, they don't have a home. But I 1716 01:42:17,099 --> 01:42:20,789 think there's other issues are paying them to take away their 1717 01:42:20,789 --> 01:42:24,539 garbage and then just dumping it in the piles where the homeless 1718 01:42:24,539 --> 01:42:28,889 people are already dumping their trash. I think in San Francisco, 1719 01:42:29,099 --> 01:42:34,079 they changed the recycling companies. It's now by different 1720 01:42:34,079 --> 01:42:38,999 regions of the city. And it went from an average $70 a month to 1721 01:42:38,999 --> 01:42:43,919 $300 a month, same things happening. Businesses are paying 1722 01:42:43,919 --> 01:42:46,889 some of these people to cart off their trash and throw it on some 1723 01:42:46,889 --> 01:42:50,129 trash heap. There are people stopping with pickup trucks to 1724 01:42:50,129 --> 01:42:53,069 empty their trash onto the trash heap that the homeless people 1725 01:42:53,069 --> 01:42:54,419 have made in the streets. 1726 01:42:54,900 --> 01:42:59,010 John C. Dvorak: Nice. This that's the opportunists, the 1727 01:42:59,010 --> 01:43:00,840 mugs, the Bay Area dwellers, 1728 01:43:01,290 --> 01:43:04,980 Adam Curry: that that shows a real moral decay. 1729 01:43:05,670 --> 01:43:08,790 John C. Dvorak: Well, it shows that opportunism? isn't moral 1730 01:43:08,790 --> 01:43:10,560 decay that save some money. 1731 01:43:10,590 --> 01:43:14,490 Adam Curry: No, it is yes, it's moral decay. If you're throwing 1732 01:43:14,490 --> 01:43:18,150 the trash on your own street. Yes, that's moral decay. Of 1733 01:43:18,150 --> 01:43:22,140 course it is. You don't think so? That's just 1734 01:43:22,170 --> 01:43:24,150 John C. Dvorak: opportunists. And wouldn't do it. I don't like 1735 01:43:24,150 --> 01:43:28,380 the idea of these big trash heaps. Well, no crawling with 1736 01:43:28,380 --> 01:43:30,840 rats and mice. And God knows what 1737 01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:34,440 Adam Curry: ASVAB knows. That is bad news. Yeah, 1738 01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,260 John C. Dvorak: that's San Francisco. That's just a fact. 1739 01:43:38,010 --> 01:43:43,140 Adam Curry: There's a very interesting lawsuit. It's 1740 01:43:43,140 --> 01:43:49,290 missing it's Wheaton at all versus Apple Inc. And what is 1741 01:43:49,290 --> 01:43:55,410 interesting about this lawsuit is it claims that Apple sold 1742 01:43:55,830 --> 01:44:01,230 iTunes information to third parties for marketing purposes. 1743 01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:05,820 And the information that they sold to these third parties was 1744 01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:12,330 entire playlists of what you're listening to. And when you think 1745 01:44:12,330 --> 01:44:15,870 and we haven't even discussed this as an off the grid OTG 1746 01:44:15,930 --> 01:44:20,820 issue. But knowing what kind of songs you listen to, is up there 1747 01:44:20,820 --> 01:44:26,550 and importance with personal preferences. I mean, if you give 1748 01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:30,510 me your your playlist, your favorite playlist, I think I can 1749 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,980 get a lot of insight to who you are and what you're about. Of 1750 01:44:34,980 --> 01:44:41,910 course, when it comes to online types of systems like Spotify, 1751 01:44:41,940 --> 01:44:47,550 or Pandora or iTunes. There's some concern when it comes to 1752 01:44:47,550 --> 01:44:52,770 things like video. In fact, there was a law on the books 1753 01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:59,970 that specifically forbade any video store or library or any 1754 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,830 other library type functioning service, whether online or 1755 01:45:04,830 --> 01:45:09,630 offline, to divulge what people are reading, watching or 1756 01:45:09,630 --> 01:45:13,710 listening to. And I think that's probably a pretty good, pretty 1757 01:45:13,710 --> 01:45:17,460 good law to have. I didn't even know it existed. It's called the 1758 01:45:17,460 --> 01:45:22,740 video Privacy Protection Act. It was passed in Congress in 1988, 1759 01:45:22,740 --> 01:45:26,820 signed into law by Reagan, and I'll just give you the actual 1760 01:45:26,850 --> 01:45:32,340 text or the important part of it. It was prevented, created to 1761 01:45:32,340 --> 01:45:35,310 prevent what refers to as wrongful disclosure of videotape 1762 01:45:35,310 --> 01:45:39,780 rent or or sale records, or similar audiovisual materials to 1763 01:45:39,780 --> 01:45:43,950 cover items such as video games and future DVD formats. And they 1764 01:45:43,950 --> 01:45:49,890 updated this over time to include online as well. I did 1765 01:45:49,890 --> 01:45:53,820 not know that this law is existed and it really makes me 1766 01:45:53,850 --> 01:45:56,820 while initially it made me question like, well, crap, how 1767 01:45:56,820 --> 01:46:01,530 can how can this be taken place? Apple, and isn't Apple supposed 1768 01:46:01,530 --> 01:46:05,250 to be the the guys who who say whatever's on your iPhone stays 1769 01:46:05,250 --> 01:46:09,150 on your iPhone privacy? Well, they're liars. They're liars. 1770 01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:15,030 But here's, here's the here's the kicker. This act was updated 1771 01:46:16,830 --> 01:46:25,320 in 2012 2013, with House resolution 6671, which amended 1772 01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:29,820 the video Privacy Protection Act to allow video rental companies 1773 01:46:29,820 --> 01:46:33,450 to share rental information on social networking sites after 1774 01:46:33,450 --> 01:46:38,940 obtaining customer permission. Netflix lobbied for the change. 1775 01:46:39,630 --> 01:46:44,250 Obama signed it into law in January 2013. You didn't hear 1776 01:46:44,250 --> 01:46:47,370 much about it. But isn't it interesting that the minute 1777 01:46:47,370 --> 01:46:51,390 Obama is out of office he gets $100 million Netflix deal isn't 1778 01:46:51,390 --> 01:46:56,100 that interesting how that works. Boys wondered why he got that 1779 01:46:56,100 --> 01:47:02,640 deal. always wondered now I know. It's it's just scratch my 1780 01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,790 back. I'll scratch yours and it's quite disgusting. These 1781 01:47:05,790 --> 01:47:09,000 after the fact deals quite disgusting. And it's black and 1782 01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:10,020 white right there. 1783 01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,290 John C. Dvorak: To you find out what the what the reason for 1784 01:47:13,290 --> 01:47:16,290 that but reverse bribe or whatever you want to call after 1785 01:47:16,290 --> 01:47:19,560 the fact bribe? Yep. Now you take care of you when you're 1786 01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:24,660 out. Don't do anything now. Yes, well, I think a lot of these 1787 01:47:24,660 --> 01:47:29,700 book deals, these massive book deals that these ex presidents 1788 01:47:29,700 --> 01:47:33,450 get, they get like a, you know, $2 million advance or 10. 1789 01:47:33,480 --> 01:47:35,280 Adam Curry: Meanwhile, we're still we're still waiting to see 1790 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,910 what genius Barack and Michelle are gonna come up with on 1791 01:47:38,910 --> 01:47:41,460 Netflix. Have you seen anything they've produced? Now? They're 1792 01:47:41,460 --> 01:47:44,250 gonna produce anything? No, it was pure. Thank you very much. 1793 01:47:44,250 --> 01:47:48,120 Great job. You really helped us move forward? You circumvented a 1794 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,180 very specific law, which made things difficult for us. Thank 1795 01:47:51,180 --> 01:47:54,000 you, President Obama. Here's your 100 million dollar deal. I 1796 01:47:54,060 --> 01:47:56,340 don't want to have to do anything. We'll just put you on 1797 01:47:56,430 --> 01:47:57,630 retainer. Good to go. 1798 01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:01,980 John C. Dvorak: Sounds like that's what it was. You're 1799 01:48:01,980 --> 01:48:05,220 right. Good catch. I know. You've just been in your 1800 01:48:05,250 --> 01:48:08,580 Adam Curry: craw. Well, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it 1801 01:48:08,580 --> 01:48:11,880 going here with one more note from producer Glen. We were 1802 01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,720 talking about your receipts being sucked in from your Gmail. 1803 01:48:17,370 --> 01:48:21,540 Yeah. And that's how Google has this. If you go to my 1804 01:48:21,540 --> 01:48:26,280 account.google.com/purchases, then you'll see purchases that 1805 01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:29,370 you didn't even make through Google. But if you have a Gmail, 1806 01:48:29,610 --> 01:48:33,630 and I you know, so there's certain things that for some 1807 01:48:33,630 --> 01:48:37,170 reason, a confirmation email went to a Gmail account I have 1808 01:48:37,170 --> 01:48:41,790 and that's what shows up. Well, Glenn says in 2015, he got 1809 01:48:41,790 --> 01:48:44,790 married before he got married. He spent hours and hours looking 1810 01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:48,780 for a tuxedo suit. He went to Men's Wearhouse and signed up 1811 01:48:48,780 --> 01:48:51,570 for email more, as he said, maybe his wife signed them up. 1812 01:48:52,170 --> 01:48:54,960 But he never bought anything from them. And of course, Men's 1813 01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:58,410 Wearhouse emailed them twice a day, every day for ever since 1814 01:48:58,410 --> 01:49:04,230 2015. So he put it into spam in Gmail. And so for the last four 1815 01:49:04,230 --> 01:49:07,380 years, he's never seen it. It's always in spam. He would check 1816 01:49:07,380 --> 01:49:11,820 occasionally. But you know, it was just going to spam. Two 1817 01:49:11,820 --> 01:49:15,030 months ago his grandmother died, then we're sorry to hear that. 1818 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:18,900 She was the first family member to pass away since he was 15. So 1819 01:49:19,470 --> 01:49:22,740 this would be his first wake or funeral as an independent adult 1820 01:49:22,740 --> 01:49:27,030 and he Googled stuff like what to wear to awake do I need to 1821 01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:32,700 suit for awake a day ago? After four years of being spam Men's 1822 01:49:32,700 --> 01:49:36,720 Wearhouse now appears in his regular email folder folder. 1823 01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,480 It's no more mark is no longer marked as spam 1824 01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:44,760 John C. Dvorak: What's that all about? 1825 01:49:45,090 --> 01:49:47,400 Adam Curry: So that's that's what that's the kind of stuff 1826 01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:47,940 they're doing. 1827 01:49:50,130 --> 01:49:53,970 John C. Dvorak: You know, these guys you know, this is what we 1828 01:49:53,970 --> 01:49:56,850 did probably have the newsletter I got I got six or seven 1829 01:49:56,850 --> 01:49:59,970 watchdogs out to the tug of war, this thing showing up and 1830 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,140 Primary is a promotions newsletter mostly goes into 1831 01:50:04,140 --> 01:50:08,010 their primary with a few guys and every so often, I get a 1832 01:50:08,010 --> 01:50:11,400 note, this went to spam for the first time ever. These 1833 01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,100 newsletters aren't that different from what from each 1834 01:50:14,100 --> 01:50:16,590 other. I mean, I, you know, unless I screw something up and 1835 01:50:16,590 --> 01:50:19,650 I know what it is. But generally speaking, if you haven't seen 1836 01:50:19,650 --> 01:50:26,940 these Dvorak, curry, no agenda newsletter, it is a template. 1837 01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,720 Yes. Pretty much the same newsletter with different 1838 01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,350 information? And is it the different information that's 1839 01:50:34,350 --> 01:50:38,370 triggering it? Is it the one too many photos that's triggering 1840 01:50:38,370 --> 01:50:40,890 it, you really can't tell? It's almost it's the lack 1841 01:50:40,890 --> 01:50:43,800 Adam Curry: of an agreement between us and Google to pay 1842 01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,590 whatever we need to pay to have it delivered. That's the future 1843 01:50:46,590 --> 01:50:49,500 of it. And if people are going to use Gmail in the future, 1844 01:50:49,500 --> 01:50:52,620 yeah, then that's what you're gonna get. That's, that's what 1845 01:50:52,620 --> 01:50:54,450 you're gonna get. And it's also we started 1846 01:50:54,450 --> 01:50:56,850 John C. Dvorak: this whole Internet email thing was 1847 01:50:56,850 --> 01:51:02,490 unreliable. I was when I was younger, younger, and the 80s 1848 01:51:02,940 --> 01:51:06,360 When we were using MCI Mail, and then the Internet Mail started 1849 01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:11,040 coming up. in big ways, it wasn't still up to up to speed, 1850 01:51:11,310 --> 01:51:14,880 but you get the internet. And if you get an email account from 1851 01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:16,920 someone, I forget what the name of that company was that was 1852 01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:20,850 providing this. But I always I wrote a column in the deck 1853 01:51:20,850 --> 01:51:25,110 professional. Because a magazine that may say, you know, this 1854 01:51:25,110 --> 01:51:29,370 mail is unreliable. And I cited all the reasons why it's 1855 01:51:29,370 --> 01:51:33,630 unreliable, because I thought it was, and I still do. And holy 1856 01:51:33,630 --> 01:51:37,530 crap, did I get a bunch of hate mail? It's the greatest thing 1857 01:51:37,530 --> 01:51:41,070 ever. It's not unreliable under any circumstances. Send mail is 1858 01:51:41,070 --> 01:51:45,690 the best protocol, blah, blah, you know, it's unreliable? 1859 01:51:47,190 --> 01:51:51,810 Adam Curry: Well, I'm going to disagree with you. The I agree 1860 01:51:51,810 --> 01:51:55,920 that Sendmail was a very reliable protocol. I think email 1861 01:51:55,920 --> 01:52:01,830 is one of the best decentralized systems that exists and has a 1862 01:52:01,830 --> 01:52:05,310 lot of fallback and protections and delivery is pretty much 1863 01:52:05,310 --> 01:52:10,980 guaranteed. The problem is providers of email. And and the 1864 01:52:10,980 --> 01:52:14,790 disincentivize ation of having anyone even understand how it 1865 01:52:14,790 --> 01:52:18,840 works. Having a little box that is just your family email server 1866 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:22,320 at home. Yeah, they exist. The helm.com is a good one to look 1867 01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:29,460 at. ISPs have worked very hard to block. You having that 1868 01:52:29,460 --> 01:52:34,170 capability at home. They make sure that Oh, Port 25 You can't 1869 01:52:34,170 --> 01:52:38,970 send yo you can't send out email you might be a spammer. So 1870 01:52:38,970 --> 01:52:41,190 they've worked hard against doing that. And people got 1871 01:52:41,190 --> 01:52:44,970 complacent. It's like, oh, I got Yahoo mail. I got to AOL mail. 1872 01:52:44,970 --> 01:52:48,300 I've got Gmail I got and now you see, you know, you don't they 1873 01:52:48,300 --> 01:52:51,870 have your mail. And there's a couple of good ones. What's the 1874 01:52:51,870 --> 01:52:57,090 one that everyone likes to use the secure email service that 1875 01:52:57,090 --> 01:53:02,130 also that can get can go tits up any day to? What is it everybody 1876 01:53:02,130 --> 01:53:02,640 uses? You're 1877 01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:04,140 John C. Dvorak: doing? You're just describing it making my 1878 01:53:04,140 --> 01:53:05,160 point? No, 1879 01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,130 Adam Curry: I'm not the emails, the email as a protocol and send 1880 01:53:08,130 --> 01:53:12,300 mail is fantastic. protonmail is what it was. I'm not 1881 01:53:12,300 --> 01:53:14,010 John C. Dvorak: making your best mail, which people like, 1882 01:53:14,430 --> 01:53:17,970 Adam Curry: Ron, so I'm not making your point. You're not 1883 01:53:17,970 --> 01:53:20,760 because you specifically said sin mail. And it's bullcrap. And 1884 01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:22,650 it's no good. That works and mail 1885 01:53:22,650 --> 01:53:25,290 John C. Dvorak: is bullcrap. But I just criticized the whole 1886 01:53:25,290 --> 01:53:28,530 mechanism. Yes. The mechanism mechanism where it goes over the 1887 01:53:28,530 --> 01:53:33,210 internet and disappears. gets picked up by Sunday. The other 1888 01:53:33,210 --> 01:53:36,960 the worst part? Yeah, okay, I'll back off on Send mail is fine. 1889 01:53:37,170 --> 01:53:40,200 And there's some newer protocols or even better, but that's 1890 01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:44,580 beside the point. The mechanism as a whole is completely flawed. 1891 01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:46,770 And even if you have your own little home server, there's 1892 01:53:46,770 --> 01:53:50,100 still these blacklists you subscribe to a blacklist because 1893 01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:54,210 you don't want to get tons of spam, which you will get. The 1894 01:53:54,210 --> 01:53:57,330 whole thing is a mess. I think we should go back to just snail 1895 01:53:57,330 --> 01:54:01,290 mail. I've always said the internet should be shut down. I 1896 01:54:01,290 --> 01:54:01,980 still say that. 1897 01:54:02,700 --> 01:54:05,970 Adam Curry: Yeah, said the man who was you can't say these 1898 01:54:05,970 --> 01:54:06,510 things. 1899 01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:11,550 John C. Dvorak: I said it. Reset, do a reboot. 1900 01:54:11,700 --> 01:54:15,600 Adam Curry: Well, I have invited what are the protocol besides 1901 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:19,530 Sendmail? What are you talking about? What else SMTP relay send 1902 01:54:19,530 --> 01:54:20,820 mail is an application. 1903 01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:24,240 John C. Dvorak: I'm just going to tell you what I think I just 1904 01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:26,460 I just don't think there's I think elaborate. We can't get 1905 01:54:26,460 --> 01:54:30,600 the newsletter they have to people. I mean, I'm not counting 1906 01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:32,220 people just don't open it. That's just 1907 01:54:32,250 --> 01:54:34,200 Adam Curry: No, I understand. But I've received every single 1908 01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:37,500 email two copies from two different email addresses ever 1909 01:54:37,500 --> 01:54:40,230 since you start sending them out because I've run my own server. 1910 01:54:40,590 --> 01:54:44,850 And that has been disincentivized to I mean, they 1911 01:54:44,850 --> 01:54:48,450 could make an app on your phone that is an email server if 1912 01:54:48,450 --> 01:54:52,680 anyone put their mind to it. But no, that's not the place. It's 1913 01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:56,160 too good of a marketing opportunity. That's why Hey, 1914 01:54:56,250 --> 01:54:59,340 that was the first thing Google came out with was Gmail. They 1915 01:54:59,340 --> 01:55:03,750 knew early And once we capture that shit then we have it all 1916 01:55:03,750 --> 01:55:05,850 and everyone wants Oh, good already 1917 01:55:06,809 --> 01:55:09,719 John C. Dvorak: use this free good free gigabyte 1918 01:55:11,370 --> 01:55:14,220 Unknown: and it could turn into a drive. I remember all that 1919 01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:20,550 John C. Dvorak: time code please. I didn't know what guy 1920 01:55:20,550 --> 01:55:21,720 that is that you're poor. We 1921 01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:25,020 Adam Curry: know that guy. We know that guy. He's been around. 1922 01:55:25,140 --> 01:55:31,770 Well, I am still a fan of the general idea of dockless 1923 01:55:31,770 --> 01:55:37,230 mobility in our cities. I'm not sure it's going to get a lot 1924 01:55:37,230 --> 01:55:42,150 worse before it gets better. But they finally unleashed the bird 1925 01:55:42,150 --> 01:55:46,110 bikes in Hoboken, New Jersey, home of Frank Sinatra and it 1926 01:55:46,110 --> 01:55:46,950 didn't go well. 1927 01:55:47,010 --> 01:55:49,770 Unknown: They are extremely popular and eco friendly but 1928 01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:53,130 East scooters are not getting a friendly welcome in Hoboken 1929 01:55:53,130 --> 01:55:55,890 people say riders are breaking traffic rules and making the 1930 01:55:55,890 --> 01:55:59,190 road dangerous. CBS two cameras caught people riding on the 1931 01:55:59,190 --> 01:56:02,970 sidewalk running red lights going the wrong way down one way 1932 01:56:02,970 --> 01:56:07,050 streets. It is such a concern on day three of the program that 1933 01:56:07,050 --> 01:56:08,790 police have put out warning signs. 1934 01:56:09,450 --> 01:56:12,210 John C. Dvorak: I've seen so many kids out here riding around 1935 01:56:12,210 --> 01:56:15,390 without helmets. They're weaving in and out. It's hard enough 1936 01:56:15,390 --> 01:56:18,450 trying to avoid pedestrians. It's the most preposterous 1937 01:56:18,450 --> 01:56:19,950 policy I've ever seen. 1938 01:56:20,490 --> 01:56:23,070 Unknown: A company that operates the scooters has set up 1939 01:56:23,070 --> 01:56:26,160 information tends to educate riders on safety and traffic 1940 01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:26,640 laws. 1941 01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:30,270 Adam Curry: Yo brother keeper and I went into town last night 1942 01:56:30,270 --> 01:56:30,720 for dinner. 1943 01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,780 John C. Dvorak: Can I reach for you talk that that anecdote I do 1944 01:56:33,780 --> 01:56:37,140 want to say being in Austin for the wedding and I have been in 1945 01:56:37,140 --> 01:56:40,920 Austin about as I told somebody in the airplane. I have not been 1946 01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,320 to Austin pre scooter 1947 01:56:44,340 --> 01:56:47,370 Adam Curry: ps3 scooter free scooter visitor 1948 01:56:47,820 --> 01:56:49,710 John C. Dvorak: so I'm so I go there and there's all these 1949 01:56:49,710 --> 01:56:53,670 scooters. It is unbelievable. Yeah, no no. 1950 01:56:54,300 --> 01:56:57,540 Adam Curry: Well what I was what I was going to say is we are out 1951 01:56:57,540 --> 01:56:59,970 here in the in the frontier the sticks of Austin you don't 1952 01:56:59,970 --> 01:57:03,570 really know they're here too, by the way they I've seen him in 1953 01:57:03,570 --> 01:57:06,210 our in our neighborhood people ride him I guess all the way 1954 01:57:06,210 --> 01:57:09,630 from from UT maybe I don't know where they're coming from. But 1955 01:57:09,630 --> 01:57:12,900 so their rally can get that far. Can they? They can go they can 1956 01:57:12,900 --> 01:57:16,260 go 20 miles, these things. They can do a full hour. Yeah, if 1957 01:57:16,260 --> 01:57:20,970 it's fully charged 18 or 20 miles. Now it's you know, it'll 1958 01:57:20,970 --> 01:57:25,620 take an hour to do that. But yeah, I know I follow this very 1959 01:57:25,620 --> 01:57:30,660 closely. I follow not just the laws and Texas has some some 1960 01:57:30,690 --> 01:57:34,080 laws that are coming down which will restrict the most important 1961 01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:36,660 things which is riding on the sidewalk and where you park 1962 01:57:36,660 --> 01:57:40,230 them. The parking has gotten much better. Although I still 1963 01:57:40,230 --> 01:57:42,660 think it looks ugly. And if I just decided to throw some shit 1964 01:57:42,660 --> 01:57:45,540 on the sidewalk, I would have a problem with it. But okay, I've 1965 01:57:45,540 --> 01:57:48,540 said I'm a proponent of this I see the benefit, but it will not 1966 01:57:48,540 --> 01:57:51,420 work with the current culture. We can't even make bicycles work 1967 01:57:51,420 --> 01:57:55,410 in the current culture with cars and trucks. Austin will be the 1968 01:57:55,410 --> 01:57:59,490 first I guarantee you parts of downtown Austin will be shut 1969 01:57:59,490 --> 01:58:03,390 down for automobile traffic. It will only be for battery crap. 1970 01:58:03,750 --> 01:58:09,690 Scooters that mono wheels, the electric bicycles. That is where 1971 01:58:09,690 --> 01:58:12,570 they're moving with this. They're not saying yet but put 1972 01:58:12,570 --> 01:58:17,730 it in the Red Book. It's going to be E scooters only in massive 1973 01:58:17,730 --> 01:58:21,600 portions of Austin. And that makes only sense that will 1974 01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:26,700 happen in Amsterdam. I know it has to happen. Cars are now 1975 01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:30,360 there they are they are becoming the problem. They're killing the 1976 01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:34,170 enemy. They are the killing the people on the scooters. The 1977 01:58:34,170 --> 01:58:38,370 friendly scooters, that killing them, and they take up the place 1978 01:58:38,370 --> 01:58:42,930 of 18 scooters, you can have a whole scooter gang in the place 1979 01:58:42,930 --> 01:58:45,930 of one car on the road. So I think that's where it's gonna 1980 01:58:45,930 --> 01:58:46,260 go. 1981 01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:51,600 John C. Dvorak: Well, there are some of US cities in this 1982 01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:57,540 country already that have this no car zones. Downtown. 1983 01:58:57,570 --> 01:59:00,030 Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm just talking about Austin, that hot 1984 01:59:00,030 --> 01:59:00,990 metropolis. 1985 01:59:01,620 --> 01:59:06,060 John C. Dvorak: But I haven't seen one that's been shut down 1986 01:59:06,270 --> 01:59:10,620 from vehicle traffic for the purposes of allowing scooters to 1987 01:59:10,620 --> 01:59:13,920 be zipping around. Those things are dangerous. These people are 1988 01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:18,000 going 25 miles an hour when they shoot by if you get hit by one 1989 01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:21,930 of them dolly I can hurt you. It would be dangerous. They got no 1990 01:59:21,930 --> 01:59:24,420 helmets or if they flip it or something, you know they're 1991 01:59:24,420 --> 01:59:26,190 gonna bang their head and they do. 1992 01:59:26,340 --> 01:59:29,160 Adam Curry: Well the main thing is is the the main thing is the 1993 01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:33,480 insurance who pays for what you wouldn't it wouldn't the minute 1994 01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:38,400 you get on the scooter, you have indemnified the company so 1995 01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:39,570 you're good to go there. 1996 01:59:42,420 --> 01:59:44,100 John C. Dvorak: So you get a vaccine while you're at it. 1997 01:59:44,820 --> 01:59:48,660 Adam Curry: interesting you bring that up. I found the the 1998 01:59:48,660 --> 01:59:53,190 Adam Schiff. He actually he actually put a state a resolute 1999 01:59:53,190 --> 01:59:54,330 a Senate Resolution. 2000 01:59:55,710 --> 01:59:58,560 John C. Dvorak: Where it was Schiff is he's, he's a 2001 01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:02,070 Adam Curry: house so it can't be that now Whereas resolution 165, 2002 02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:05,190 recognizing the importance of vaccinations and immunizations 2003 02:00:05,190 --> 02:00:09,060 in the United States, we were talking about that. Yeah, 2004 02:00:09,090 --> 02:00:10,230 Kennedy said that 2005 02:00:11,010 --> 02:00:13,050 John C. Dvorak: they had done that brought that up. And you 2006 02:00:13,050 --> 02:00:14,640 were we were both aghast. Yeah. 2007 02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:20,490 Adam Curry: So the so it indeed is here. It exists. But it's a 2008 02:00:20,490 --> 02:00:24,210 resolution. So it's not doesn't make you do anything. But it 2009 02:00:24,210 --> 02:00:27,360 does have everything in there that they're good. Vaccines are 2010 02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:32,220 good. Shut up, shouldn't ask. And someone asked me on email, 2011 02:00:32,310 --> 02:00:37,560 Hey, if there's no really no testing data, to speak of, 2012 02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:41,910 certainly for the MMR vaccine in the United States. How does the 2013 02:00:41,910 --> 02:00:46,110 European Union do that? So I went looking for that. Oh, my 2014 02:00:46,110 --> 02:00:52,320 goodness. What? Ah, it's impossible. They have so many 2015 02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:58,020 organizations, eurosurveillance. Let's see, Europe's journal on 2016 02:00:58,020 --> 02:01:01,290 infectious disease, Surveillance, Epidemiology, 2017 02:01:01,290 --> 02:01:05,700 prevention and control. Is no one has testing results. All 2018 02:01:05,700 --> 02:01:09,480 they have is Yeah, everything is safe. Here's the EU regulatory 2019 02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:12,930 framework for vaccines, they have a framework, and the 2020 02:01:12,930 --> 02:01:13,680 framework is a 2021 02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:16,020 John C. Dvorak: fast one on us. Plus more 2022 02:01:16,020 --> 02:01:20,670 Adam Curry: than that EU regulatory framework before a 2023 02:01:20,670 --> 02:01:23,460 new vaccine is approved for release on the market a rigorous 2024 02:01:23,460 --> 02:01:28,710 regulatory procedure to assess quality, effect efficacy and 2025 02:01:28,710 --> 02:01:34,230 safety must be undertaken. But really all they do is they just 2026 02:01:34,410 --> 02:01:40,980 see if here, the the evaluation and approval of registry quality 2027 02:01:40,980 --> 02:01:44,400 assessment. Once a marketing authorization is obtained, it 2028 02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:48,450 starts with marketing with these folks a marketing authorisation. 2029 02:01:48,990 --> 02:01:52,440 Not if it's safe now you got to get your marketing authorization 2030 02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:55,980 first. Once that's obtained, each batch of vaccines must 2031 02:01:55,980 --> 02:01:59,700 still be assessed for quality before release. This is done by 2032 02:01:59,700 --> 02:02:03,720 both the manufacturer and an official European control 2033 02:02:03,750 --> 02:02:07,500 laboratory. The activities of these laboratories are 2034 02:02:07,500 --> 02:02:11,520 coordinated by the European Pharmacopoeia Secretariat, 2035 02:02:11,700 --> 02:02:15,570 within the European Directorate for quality of medicines, hello. 2036 02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:21,540 Can't find anything about safety. But the European 2037 02:02:21,540 --> 02:02:25,920 Pharmacopoeia Secretariat also has the responsibility for 2038 02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:30,450 developing legally binding monographs to ensure appropriate 2039 02:02:30,450 --> 02:02:34,260 quality control and harmonized quality standards across 2040 02:02:34,260 --> 02:02:38,220 manufacturers. What does that mean? 2041 02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:42,210 John C. Dvorak: Does it mean anything? No, 2042 02:02:42,210 --> 02:02:48,180 Adam Curry: it's just a bunch of gobbly gook. And that's it. So 2043 02:02:48,180 --> 02:02:50,820 in addition, all vaccines and pharmaceuticals are monitored 2044 02:02:50,820 --> 02:02:54,690 after release onto the market for adverse events. This 2045 02:02:54,690 --> 02:02:57,690 surveillance allows both to refine the safety profile 2046 02:02:57,690 --> 02:03:00,720 established during the product development and to detect rare 2047 02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:03,660 events that may not have been apparent during the clinical 2048 02:03:03,660 --> 02:03:08,550 development. It's always rare, isn't it? Yeah, rare. So I can't 2049 02:03:08,580 --> 02:03:13,500 if anyone can find anything, please. I appreciate that. I'm 2050 02:03:13,500 --> 02:03:21,660 not very hopeful. And in New Hampshire. I think this is a is 2051 02:03:21,660 --> 02:03:26,490 this an AP report. The Keene area child believed to be 2052 02:03:26,490 --> 02:03:31,170 infected with measles. This report says this Concord, New 2053 02:03:31,170 --> 02:03:34,830 Hampshire was probably experiencing a reaction from the 2054 02:03:34,830 --> 02:03:38,250 measles vaccine so public you're not at risk of a measles 2055 02:03:38,250 --> 02:03:44,880 outbreak state state health officials said. So now, we've 2056 02:03:44,940 --> 02:03:48,450 about 5% of individuals vaccinated with the MMR vaccine 2057 02:03:48,450 --> 02:03:51,570 develop a fever and rash reactions, these reactions 2058 02:03:51,570 --> 02:03:54,540 happen because the body is responding to the vaccine. But 2059 02:03:54,540 --> 02:03:57,300 the everyone said oh, the kid has the measles, which of course 2060 02:03:57,300 --> 02:04:09,570 he did. I don't know. It's just interesting. Well, 2061 02:04:09,570 --> 02:04:11,310 John C. Dvorak: we still have a bola going on. 2062 02:04:12,870 --> 02:04:15,450 Adam Curry: In Congo, where the pig Ebola get 2063 02:04:15,450 --> 02:04:18,630 John C. Dvorak: the Ebola report here. They're from I think a CBS 2064 02:04:18,780 --> 02:04:22,770 they got one woman one lone reporter is in the area, 2065 02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:27,420 reporting on a bola and this is her 2066 02:04:27,599 --> 02:04:31,289 two year old charity fights for her life in this Ebola treatment 2067 02:04:31,289 --> 02:04:34,889 center. She was admitted today with her critically ill mother 2068 02:04:34,889 --> 02:04:39,959 kubwa Sufi, who lives isolated in another plastic cube, too 2069 02:04:39,959 --> 02:04:43,379 sick to attend to her little girl. There have been major 2070 02:04:43,379 --> 02:04:46,319 advances in the treatment of Ebola since the last deadly 2071 02:04:46,319 --> 02:04:50,999 outbreak in 2014. Now patients are putting these plastic tubes 2072 02:04:51,209 --> 02:04:54,959 which provides a protective barrier between the doctor and 2073 02:04:54,959 --> 02:04:58,739 the patient. There's also a new vaccine which should be good 2074 02:04:59,459 --> 02:05:03,059 Democrat The Republic of Congo in its fight against its 2075 02:05:03,089 --> 02:05:08,519 deadliest outbreak to date, except this epidemic is in a war 2076 02:05:08,519 --> 02:05:13,469 zone. World Health Ebola manager Dr. Michel Yao told us their 2077 02:05:13,469 --> 02:05:17,849 hospitals are repeatedly being targeted by the more than 30 2078 02:05:17,849 --> 02:05:21,629 armed militia groups roaming the forests around the hot zones. 2079 02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:25,020 Adam Curry: Anytime that you have an accident, it take weeks 2080 02:05:25,020 --> 02:05:25,710 to recover. 2081 02:05:26,220 --> 02:05:28,920 John C. Dvorak: But the violence has not deterred Esperance. 2082 02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:32,880 Lucinda, from her work at the UNICEF children's unit. She 2083 02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:37,350 herself has an Ebola survivor. Here, they don't wear protective 2084 02:05:37,350 --> 02:05:41,520 gear, as survivors are immune from further infection. The 2085 02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:44,760 survivors look after babies suspected of contracting the 2086 02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:49,140 virus, but who desperately need a loving touch in order to 2087 02:05:49,140 --> 02:05:49,800 thrive? 2088 02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:54,000 Unknown: Just see me now on the label now I'm not afraid 2089 02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:57,180 John C. Dvorak: of Ebola was sent a tells us I'm afraid of 2090 02:05:57,180 --> 02:05:58,170 the violence. 2091 02:06:00,540 --> 02:06:03,810 Yeah, that was interesting. They have a bunch of these Ebola 2092 02:06:03,810 --> 02:06:06,120 survivors and they're just roaming around freely and they 2093 02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:08,610 do all kinds of work that you would normally nobody in their 2094 02:06:08,610 --> 02:06:09,660 right mind would do. 2095 02:06:10,140 --> 02:06:14,490 Adam Curry: And that situation is very fuzzy, at best. And it's 2096 02:06:14,490 --> 02:06:18,240 used and they're using it on the ground as fear tactics. And one 2097 02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:21,630 of our producers works with someone who's a family member of 2098 02:06:21,630 --> 02:06:26,640 the current Congolese King, we'll just call him the king and 2099 02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:29,250 apparently the people were freaked out about the whole 2100 02:06:29,250 --> 02:06:34,140 election they had roared dousing muscles and alcohol or their 2101 02:06:34,140 --> 02:06:37,380 hands if because, you know, they they voted on the machines and 2102 02:06:37,380 --> 02:06:39,990 they didn't like touching the machines and everyone's you 2103 02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:42,510 know, cleaning their hands the whole time. People didn't show 2104 02:06:42,510 --> 02:06:47,130 up. It's just used as control. And now the Chinese the Chinese 2105 02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:51,450 official state news is saying hey, don't worry about it. We 2106 02:06:51,450 --> 02:06:55,110 have a we have a vaccine in the works for pig Ebola. It's all 2107 02:06:55,110 --> 02:06:57,480 going to be okay. Don't look over here. There's nothing wrong 2108 02:06:57,480 --> 02:06:59,070 with our with our pork industry. 2109 02:07:00,270 --> 02:07:02,070 John C. Dvorak: Oh, I haven't heard this. Well, it's 2110 02:07:02,070 --> 02:07:03,240 Adam Curry: the Chinese 2111 02:07:04,980 --> 02:07:07,350 John C. Dvorak: about that poor sign fever. 2112 02:07:07,410 --> 02:07:11,670 Adam Curry: Yes. The African swine flu I believe is the way 2113 02:07:11,670 --> 02:07:15,930 they're calling it here vaccines tested. This is China News. the 2114 02:07:15,930 --> 02:07:20,820 CNS, China News Service. Chinese scientists have successfully 2115 02:07:20,820 --> 02:07:24,120 developed to vaccine candidates for African swine fever virus, 2116 02:07:24,120 --> 02:07:26,700 the Chinese Academy of Agricultural Sciences announced 2117 02:07:26,700 --> 02:07:30,510 Friday. Lab tests have shown the candidates are biologically safe 2118 02:07:30,510 --> 02:07:32,850 and effective and virus immunization, their safety and 2119 02:07:32,850 --> 02:07:35,160 effectiveness indexes are superior to similar research 2120 02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:39,570 achievements in other countries. So I guess we're good. It's all 2121 02:07:39,570 --> 02:07:42,120 over. Don't worry about it. You know, the Chinese lie about this 2122 02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:42,570 stuff? 2123 02:07:43,139 --> 02:07:46,619 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Well, in producing enough to inoculate 2124 02:07:46,619 --> 02:07:49,739 every pig in China, it's no way I don't think you could do it. 2125 02:07:50,670 --> 02:07:53,460 Adam Curry: Now the kid the pigs that have died now is already 2126 02:07:53,460 --> 02:07:59,820 more than we have in America. Crazy. The BBC did a great job 2127 02:08:00,630 --> 02:08:04,650 on some more propaganda about Syria, and I'm not quite sure. 2128 02:08:05,340 --> 02:08:13,050 Do you have any idea why the Neo cons want us to stay in Syria or 2129 02:08:13,050 --> 02:08:16,050 want to still go and get Assad? Is it? I mean, is it something 2130 02:08:16,050 --> 02:08:18,870 that I'm missing? Is it still the same old crap that we're 2131 02:08:18,870 --> 02:08:19,620 dealing with? 2132 02:08:21,300 --> 02:08:27,750 John C. Dvorak: The assess clerk seven Oh, that could be the I 2133 02:08:27,750 --> 02:08:31,380 Have No I've never been I've never fully understood what the 2134 02:08:31,770 --> 02:08:35,460 Neo cons are trying to accomplish. Be honest about it 2135 02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:36,540 set verbalize 2136 02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:42,570 Adam Curry: also Syria. And we already now have UN reports that 2137 02:08:42,570 --> 02:08:45,990 the White Helmets stage stuff that the chlorine attack was 2138 02:08:45,990 --> 02:08:49,710 staged you had the report just two days ago, were they still 2139 02:08:49,710 --> 02:08:52,620 Oh, they must have killed 23 people for no reason? No, that 2140 02:08:52,620 --> 02:08:56,670 was probably all fake and acted as well. And so these are all, 2141 02:08:56,730 --> 02:09:02,790 you know, kind of the definition of false flags to draw foreign 2142 02:09:02,970 --> 02:09:09,750 war into into the region, the US and France and Britain in the 2143 02:09:09,750 --> 02:09:12,300 BBC is just not stopping 2144 02:09:12,330 --> 02:09:15,390 Unknown: documents leaked from intelligence organizations in 2145 02:09:15,390 --> 02:09:19,410 Syria suggest that human rights violations in the war there were 2146 02:09:19,410 --> 02:09:24,060 premeditated and planned by the government. More than 5000 pages 2147 02:09:24,060 --> 02:09:27,240 of information had been obtained by campaigners in Washington. 2148 02:09:27,570 --> 02:09:31,020 They include this text written allegedly by senior government 2149 02:09:31,020 --> 02:09:34,470 security officials, which we've translated and voiced. 2150 02:09:34,980 --> 02:09:38,850 Adam Curry: I have never heard the BBC do this. So there's some 2151 02:09:38,850 --> 02:09:41,670 text that some document that apparently was found and we're 2152 02:09:41,670 --> 02:09:45,420 gonna find out who found it in a minute, which is hilarious. They 2153 02:09:45,420 --> 02:09:51,960 translated it and then they have some Arab. National read it. 2154 02:09:52,950 --> 02:09:54,510 Have you ever heard the BBC do this? 2155 02:09:55,530 --> 02:09:57,150 John C. Dvorak: No, not really. It gives 2156 02:09:57,150 --> 02:09:59,700 Adam Curry: it a whole different spin instead of just hey, here's 2157 02:09:59,700 --> 02:10:03,240 what the occupants said, no, no, we got an actor to voice in 2158 02:10:03,240 --> 02:10:05,880 Unknown: Washington. They include this text written 2159 02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:09,690 allegedly by senior government security officials, which we've 2160 02:10:09,690 --> 02:10:11,190 translated and voiced. 2161 02:10:11,460 --> 02:10:14,340 We received information that terrorists are being treated in 2162 02:10:14,340 --> 02:10:18,240 Albert hospital in a restaurant in homes, we suggest to bomb it 2163 02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:19,110 with artillery, 2164 02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:22,140 and three days later the hospital mentioned was bombed. 2165 02:10:30,690 --> 02:10:34,770 I've been speaking to Mohamed Al Abdullah, Executive Director of 2166 02:10:34,770 --> 02:10:37,320 the Syria Justice and Accountability Center in 2167 02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:40,740 Washington DC, and one of the people gathering the evidence 2168 02:10:40,740 --> 02:10:42,990 and writing a report based on the documents. 2169 02:10:45,090 --> 02:10:47,250 Adam Curry: This is just like one of those Jumoke sitting in a 2170 02:10:47,250 --> 02:10:51,240 in an apartment in in London. No, no sounds Oh, yes, this is a 2171 02:10:51,240 --> 02:10:53,820 serious observation guys in DC. 2172 02:10:54,690 --> 02:10:56,850 John C. Dvorak: I asked him how he got ahold of the information 2173 02:10:56,850 --> 02:10:57,810 in the first place. 2174 02:10:58,050 --> 02:11:00,750 Unknown: So basically, these documents were rescued and saved 2175 02:11:00,750 --> 02:11:04,260 from abandoned security intelligence buildings from 2176 02:11:04,260 --> 02:11:06,900 inside Syria during the conflict. And also there's other 2177 02:11:06,900 --> 02:11:09,990 sets of documents where were extracted by other organization 2178 02:11:09,990 --> 02:11:10,980 partner organization, you 2179 02:11:10,980 --> 02:11:14,550 will understand that many people have a vested interest in faking 2180 02:11:14,580 --> 02:11:17,760 evidence in the Syrian conflict, you're absolutely sure that this 2181 02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:19,230 is genuine stuff. Are you? 2182 02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:22,110 Absolutely sure this is genuine to ask you a few. 2183 02:11:25,980 --> 02:11:29,160 Adam Curry: Let me just step back. So this is the BBC, BBC 2184 02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:33,600 World News, world renowned news. Have some guys on who are some 2185 02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:38,820 think tank in Washington DC for Syria? And he says, now there's 2186 02:11:38,820 --> 02:11:41,820 a lot of fakery going on. Are you sure this is the real deal? 2187 02:11:41,850 --> 02:11:45,870 Oh, yeah, we're sure. And that's cool with the BBC. To me. This 2188 02:11:45,870 --> 02:11:48,180 is this is a great report, organization 2189 02:11:48,180 --> 02:11:48,960 Unknown: partner organization, 2190 02:11:49,019 --> 02:11:52,139 you will understand that many people have a vested interest in 2191 02:11:52,139 --> 02:11:55,679 faking evidence in the Syrian conflict, you're absolutely sure 2192 02:11:55,679 --> 02:11:57,449 that this is genuine stuff. Are you? 2193 02:11:57,780 --> 02:12:01,560 Absolutely sure this is genuine, secured and preserved by our own 2194 02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:04,710 team, we have records and videos and films inside the security 2195 02:12:04,710 --> 02:12:08,070 intelligence buildings. And we took this video inside the 2196 02:12:08,070 --> 02:12:11,910 division also to counter the narrative that ICRC continued to 2197 02:12:11,910 --> 02:12:15,630 deny that humanitarian aid is ending in Assad's hand as well, 2198 02:12:15,690 --> 02:12:18,570 is what we've just heard potentially a smoking gun in 2199 02:12:18,570 --> 02:12:21,630 terms of court evidence in the future against the Syrian 2200 02:12:21,630 --> 02:12:22,170 government. 2201 02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:25,170 I hope so. Yes, absolutely. This is what we're trying to do. 2202 02:12:25,170 --> 02:12:27,750 That's why we've rescued these documents. And that's why we've 2203 02:12:27,750 --> 02:12:31,980 done this really lengthy process of analyzing 1000s of pages 2204 02:12:31,980 --> 02:12:36,390 do these documents prove? Do you think that President Assad is 2205 02:12:36,390 --> 02:12:39,420 personally responsible for the atrocities that do that you 2206 02:12:39,420 --> 02:12:40,500 document? We 2207 02:12:40,650 --> 02:12:43,110 have not seen any documents signed by Bashar Al Assad 2208 02:12:43,110 --> 02:12:48,300 himself and analysis so far there but however, the nature of 2209 02:12:48,300 --> 02:12:52,230 the orders that sincerity and ranking of officials who signed 2210 02:12:52,230 --> 02:12:56,640 these documents and the nature of weapons deployed to conduct 2211 02:12:56,640 --> 02:13:00,480 and deliver these attacks all suggest this is coordinated at 2212 02:13:00,480 --> 02:13:03,600 the highest level and Masha Allah said is if not organic, at 2213 02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:04,440 least he's aware. 2214 02:13:04,889 --> 02:13:08,849 That was Mohamed Al Abdullah who's head of the Syria Justice 2215 02:13:08,849 --> 02:13:12,959 and Accountability Center a campaign group in Washington DC 2216 02:13:12,959 --> 02:13:15,179 you're listening to the BBC World Service 2217 02:13:16,590 --> 02:13:18,660 Adam Curry: outstanding work BBC. 2218 02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:24,330 John C. Dvorak: No, I have no idea I don't know why this 2219 02:13:24,360 --> 02:13:27,810 continues but it just it does continue to something either 2220 02:13:27,810 --> 02:13:31,890 some untold cache of oil that we're not 2221 02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:34,170 Adam Curry: it could still be the Russia thing. Yeah, the 2222 02:13:34,170 --> 02:13:34,860 Russian is 2223 02:13:34,860 --> 02:13:36,660 John C. Dvorak: right as I'm doing the Russia gate as I'm do 2224 02:13:36,660 --> 02:13:38,010 with Israel. Yeah. 2225 02:13:38,970 --> 02:13:42,510 Adam Curry: Guys, just the headshake or to me that the BBC 2226 02:13:42,780 --> 02:13:45,390 I mean, that is clearly propaganda 2227 02:13:47,550 --> 02:13:48,780 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you sure this 2228 02:13:48,780 --> 02:13:51,540 Adam Curry: is the real deal? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we took we got 2229 02:13:51,540 --> 02:13:53,760 it ourselves. We got video of us getting it 2230 02:13:59,070 --> 02:14:02,610 John C. Dvorak: I don't know. Did you thing another clip here? 2231 02:14:02,610 --> 02:14:08,730 What is this? This is the this is some kind of interesting. I 2232 02:14:08,730 --> 02:14:12,060 don't know anything about this. And I heard this clip. I played 2233 02:14:12,060 --> 02:14:16,080 this insider dope on the Oh no, this is something else. So they 2234 02:14:16,080 --> 02:14:18,540 had this woman I thought there should be kind of a just an 2235 02:14:18,540 --> 02:14:26,580 interesting educational segment. This woman is an ex CIA. She's a 2236 02:14:26,580 --> 02:14:29,940 specialist and discusses the disguise specialist at the 2237 02:14:29,940 --> 02:14:36,000 agency. In her name is Jonah. Gianna, John. And you mentioned 2238 02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:39,840 Adam Curry: this to me maybe after a show or something? Yeah, 2239 02:14:39,870 --> 02:14:40,980 that was Yeah, that's right. 2240 02:14:41,010 --> 02:14:43,710 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And this is her talking about how people 2241 02:14:43,710 --> 02:14:46,680 use aliases and I thought I just for some reason found this to be 2242 02:14:46,680 --> 02:14:48,450 fascinate because I didn't know any of this 2243 02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:53,100 alias. Names CIA are closely controlled, they are managed 2244 02:14:53,100 --> 02:14:56,040 they are assigned to you. My name is number two, you end up 2245 02:14:56,040 --> 02:15:00,210 with a name for your entire working career. Your true Name 2246 02:15:00,210 --> 02:15:04,830 is never on paper overseas room a baby Oprah would probably not 2247 02:15:04,830 --> 02:15:08,640 be one of those names is my wife Oprah any name that really drew 2248 02:15:08,640 --> 02:15:11,670 attention would not be one of those names Cunningham was it 2249 02:15:11,670 --> 02:15:14,670 that she cut in half couldn't be but we always had a middle 2250 02:15:14,670 --> 02:15:18,000 initial changes my middle name, he always had three names. I 2251 02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:20,460 mean, you could abbreviate the middle initial, but you always 2252 02:15:20,460 --> 02:15:22,020 had three names often 2253 02:15:22,230 --> 02:15:25,680 Adam Curry: QA the three names is interesting, exact QA, 2254 02:15:25,710 --> 02:15:28,710 because whenever whenever we got someone killing a whole bunch of 2255 02:15:28,710 --> 02:15:33,390 people, usually three names. Yep. Which means they had a CIA 2256 02:15:33,390 --> 02:15:34,950 name to start with possibly. 2257 02:15:35,250 --> 02:15:36,450 John C. Dvorak: That's possible. 2258 02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:40,140 Adam Curry: I love that fantastic. So show my name 2259 02:15:40,140 --> 02:15:40,770 sorry. 2260 02:15:40,980 --> 02:15:43,860 John C. Dvorak: So she said yeah, before you go on. Before a 2261 02:15:43,860 --> 02:15:46,950 show she said everyone has assigned three names do you tend 2262 02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:50,700 to use three? And I talked about your old theories about these 2263 02:15:50,820 --> 02:15:54,000 phony the ones we had in the six week cycle was always some 2264 02:15:54,090 --> 02:15:55,290 always always three 2265 02:15:55,290 --> 02:15:59,790 Adam Curry: names. Always a three Neymar Yeah. Adam Clark 2266 02:15:59,790 --> 02:16:00,360 curry. 2267 02:16:00,900 --> 02:16:03,690 Unknown: I'm going to show my school by donating to no agenda. 2268 02:16:03,750 --> 02:16:06,900 Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun 2269 02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:16,830 John C. Dvorak: you say we do have a few people saying not 2270 02:16:16,830 --> 02:16:18,330 many of them with three names. 2271 02:16:19,350 --> 02:16:22,350 Adam Curry: That we know. Oh sir. Mark Hall. Let me just read 2272 02:16:22,350 --> 02:16:25,230 this for a second. Do you Adam and John great shows of late 2273 02:16:25,230 --> 02:16:29,730 Happy belated birthday, John and hundo to Adam for boxes and 2274 02:16:29,730 --> 02:16:32,580 packing tape. Keep up the good work really enjoyed the recent 2275 02:16:32,580 --> 02:16:34,770 wedding of the keeper and the crackpots so good to meet 2276 02:16:34,770 --> 02:16:38,130 members of the roundtable enjoy talking to me me and was even 2277 02:16:38,130 --> 02:16:42,360 granted a brief audience with John C. Dvorak truly. The 2278 02:16:42,360 --> 02:16:45,570 wedding of the year and you were there my friend 2279 02:16:46,380 --> 02:16:54,510 John C. Dvorak: $167.69 Merci. Sir Rod $150. Also an 2280 02:16:54,510 --> 02:16:55,890 appreciation for the wedding. 2281 02:16:55,920 --> 02:17:01,860 Adam Curry: This is this is Roderick rosary credo Yeah, he 2282 02:17:01,860 --> 02:17:04,290 finally became a night he got his ring and everything so he 2283 02:17:04,290 --> 02:17:05,850 sir rod now very nice. 2284 02:17:06,360 --> 02:17:12,090 John C. Dvorak: Sir sander and Zaandam. $3.82 Mark Van Dyck 2285 02:17:12,090 --> 02:17:13,230 King running 2286 02:17:13,229 --> 02:17:17,339 Adam Curry: up wait a minute, that's voice zero. Yeah, no, I 2287 02:17:17,340 --> 02:17:18,300 John C. Dvorak: saw this too. 2288 02:17:18,389 --> 02:17:20,669 Adam Curry: I TM Jensen, thank you for your courage. 2289 02:17:20,669 --> 02:17:23,249 Congratulations with your marriage Adam and Tina and heck 2290 02:17:23,249 --> 02:17:27,359 why not to you as well John and Mimi, LOL much love from your 2291 02:17:27,359 --> 02:17:31,349 guy and family behind the scenes Mark void zero iris and Stephen 2292 02:17:31,589 --> 02:17:34,499 karma for the newlyweds and original bingo Boom shakalaka 2293 02:17:34,499 --> 02:17:37,289 and a bingo Boom shakalaka little girl please. And may 2294 02:17:37,289 --> 02:17:40,349 fortune be on all paths have no agenda hosts and listeners lots 2295 02:17:40,349 --> 02:17:41,999 of love. Thank you Mark. You don't have to do that. It's 2296 02:17:41,999 --> 02:17:46,109 very, very sweet of you and, and Steven and an iris Thank you. I 2297 02:17:46,109 --> 02:17:49,619 know. I will of course get you some bingo Boom shakalaka 2298 02:17:50,639 --> 02:17:54,089 John C. Dvorak: Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale Arizona. 7575 Baron 2299 02:17:54,089 --> 02:17:57,449 Mark Tanner in Whittier, California has twice monthly 2300 02:17:57,449 --> 02:18:04,889 6789 Stephen did Gina in Bethpage New York. 5746 I have a 2301 02:18:04,889 --> 02:18:10,319 note here by the way, he needs a D douching. For starters. You've 2302 02:18:10,319 --> 02:18:17,729 been D deuced. Oh yeah, he says you can can the Navy and expat 2303 02:18:17,729 --> 02:18:20,129 living in New York and listening since Brexit thank you for your 2304 02:18:20,129 --> 02:18:23,189 humor insight and shenanigans. If you have the time, he wants a 2305 02:18:23,189 --> 02:18:25,829 DD wishing you got that and some karma will put at the end for 2306 02:18:25,829 --> 02:18:36,029 you. Now I have HELCO son tema, Somtam, five, six. I have PCOS, 2307 02:18:36,269 --> 02:18:42,419 Ohio Koh Sama, Santa Monica. We have a big yellow thing. He gets 2308 02:18:42,419 --> 02:18:43,049 a birthday. 2309 02:18:43,050 --> 02:18:44,970 Adam Curry: I know that. There's a couple of things that went 2310 02:18:44,970 --> 02:18:49,380 wrong here. So we we got his donation on the previous show 2311 02:18:49,380 --> 02:18:52,740 somehow, we wish them happy birthday which was a little too 2312 02:18:52,740 --> 02:18:57,990 early. But he actually became a night so he will be Saru ward of 2313 02:18:57,990 --> 02:19:03,720 Mark Ness. And he wants Beaujolais and rebel ashong. 2314 02:19:05,370 --> 02:19:08,940 Mostly a rebel or Shawn What is this? Just a wine I'm not 2315 02:19:08,940 --> 02:19:10,350 familiar with rebel Sean, 2316 02:19:10,350 --> 02:19:11,340 John C. Dvorak: is that a cheese? 2317 02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:16,170 Adam Curry: I have no idea. Beaujolais I know. He will be 46 2318 02:19:16,170 --> 02:19:18,690 on the 29th in the morning, John Adam with all the new attendance 2319 02:19:18,690 --> 02:19:21,060 at the roundtable on the last show I got thinking about my own 2320 02:19:21,060 --> 02:19:23,730 journey to knighthood. had a feeling I was getting close to 2321 02:19:23,730 --> 02:19:26,520 joining that illustrious crowd but never bothered to check 2322 02:19:26,520 --> 02:19:29,760 until now turns out to my surprise, I have claimed that I 2323 02:19:29,760 --> 02:19:32,490 could have claimed to title months ago. So henceforth I 2324 02:19:32,490 --> 02:19:35,580 would like to be known as Sir reward of Mark Ness. And we'd 2325 02:19:35,580 --> 02:19:39,630 like to find Beaujolais a Robles shown at the round table. Thank 2326 02:19:39,630 --> 02:19:41,820 you very much for your courage and I am going to order that 2327 02:19:41,820 --> 02:19:45,900 right now for the ceremony. Thank you for your courage. 2328 02:19:45,900 --> 02:19:46,440 halco 2329 02:19:47,700 --> 02:19:51,030 John C. Dvorak: Yes, as an F cancer he needs for a colleague. 2330 02:19:51,090 --> 02:19:52,860 Adam Curry: Oh, you know, I'm gonna give that to him right 2331 02:19:52,860 --> 02:19:53,070 now. 2332 02:19:57,510 --> 02:19:59,220 Unknown: You've got karma was 2333 02:19:59,220 --> 02:20:02,220 Adam Curry: interesting is he Yeah, he sent the donation note 2334 02:20:02,220 --> 02:20:05,610 to your email. And it got bounced back because it 2335 02:20:05,610 --> 02:20:10,560 contained porn. But it didn't. It's just he asked for an F 2336 02:20:10,560 --> 02:20:11,160 cancer. 2337 02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:14,610 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I just want my point earlier. Yeah. 2338 02:20:15,539 --> 02:20:16,799 Adam Curry: Well, that's your setup. 2339 02:20:18,690 --> 02:20:20,760 John C. Dvorak: I don't think yes, it's your 2340 02:20:20,760 --> 02:20:23,400 Adam Curry: your mail guy your Yeah, it is your squirrel mail 2341 02:20:23,400 --> 02:20:27,300 guy. I saw the headers it came from your server. 2342 02:20:27,960 --> 02:20:31,680 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, again, my point is well made. 2343 02:20:32,370 --> 02:20:37,050 David CPU 5510 w goes on the dimed. gratulations on your 2344 02:20:37,050 --> 02:20:41,430 wedding. Michael Robinson in North Melbourne, Victoria 5433. 2345 02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:49,170 We have a couple of douchebag call outs in here. But I don't 2346 02:20:49,170 --> 02:20:49,590 see it. 2347 02:20:50,550 --> 02:20:54,960 Adam Curry: Yes, we have it here. Arrogance. Yeah. 2348 02:20:57,390 --> 02:20:59,850 John C. Dvorak: He's got a couple he's not at night. Mark 2349 02:20:59,850 --> 02:21:05,580 Beecham of Melbourne for one. long winded note and people 2350 02:21:05,580 --> 02:21:07,380 gotta tighten these douchebag call outs 2351 02:21:07,500 --> 02:21:09,510 Adam Curry: while he's because he's become an ease. He says I 2352 02:21:09,510 --> 02:21:14,580 qualified for a night for sure. onshore 1124 Please nightmares 2353 02:21:14,580 --> 02:21:21,420 sir Max raka Tete raka tan ski night of the Soviet Socialist 2354 02:21:21,420 --> 02:21:26,130 Republic of Victoria. I would like to request Corona extra and 2355 02:21:26,130 --> 02:21:30,720 peanut butter m&ms for the occasion. And the douchebag call 2356 02:21:30,720 --> 02:21:35,520 out the bloke who hit him in the mouth hasn't donated. That is 2357 02:21:35,520 --> 02:21:42,360 Mark Beecham of Melbourne. And that's the only one so let me 2358 02:21:42,360 --> 02:21:46,440 just make sure he is on the list for knighting today, which I 2359 02:21:46,440 --> 02:21:51,720 think he is. Yes. And yeah. What does he want again at the 2360 02:21:51,720 --> 02:21:55,680 roundtable? Two interesting requests for roundtable, Corona 2361 02:21:55,680 --> 02:21:59,370 extra and peanut butter m&ms. Got it. Okay. Thank you very 2362 02:21:59,370 --> 02:22:01,290 much for your courage and thank you for your support. 2363 02:22:02,220 --> 02:22:06,990 John C. Dvorak: 5432 also comes from Matthew Cole Perricone 2364 02:22:08,400 --> 02:22:13,620 favorite news deconstruction, sir daddy cast of Sir daddy cast 2365 02:22:13,620 --> 02:22:16,800 of the Love House of Love House 250 2366 02:22:16,830 --> 02:22:21,720 Adam Curry: in honor of his late grandmother's birthday, I'm 525 2367 02:22:21,810 --> 02:22:22,470 Thank you, Peter. 2368 02:22:22,770 --> 02:22:26,550 John C. Dvorak: Cox. glenshaw, Pennsylvania 5191. Now these are 2369 02:22:26,550 --> 02:22:31,920 the leftovers from the earlier 5191 donation withdrawal wishing 2370 02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:38,670 you a happy marriage. Thank you, Bill, Coxen, glenshaw glenshaw, 2371 02:22:38,700 --> 02:22:42,420 Pennsylvania, Todd Strobel in Vancouver, Vancouver, 2372 02:22:42,420 --> 02:22:46,710 Washington, so it's not pronounced that way. And Nick 2373 02:22:46,710 --> 02:22:50,640 Barnes 5191 James Murray, Huntington Beach, California 2374 02:22:50,640 --> 02:22:57,210 Michael Hager and St. Louis, Missouri. Hocus locusts. Grand 2375 02:22:57,210 --> 02:23:05,220 Duke Dwayne Melanson and Tigard, Oregon, Tony tansy, 10 During 2376 02:23:05,220 --> 02:23:10,890 and then during an eolia eolia Missouri Jeffrey fields and new 2377 02:23:10,890 --> 02:23:16,650 Browns fells Texas. met Brian Matthews sir midnight of the 2378 02:23:16,650 --> 02:23:21,720 rivers Gulf Breeze Florida. Dame Patricia Worthington steps in 2379 02:23:22,980 --> 02:23:33,120 John Stuart sun in Leicester, UK, Robert Karabakh, John bean, 2380 02:23:33,540 --> 02:23:39,960 William Alston in Baltimore. Chris Bolton and that's the end 2381 02:23:39,960 --> 02:23:41,220 of that little group. Thank you. 2382 02:23:41,250 --> 02:23:44,490 Adam Curry: Thank you very much. Thanks, Jimmy and the keeper and 2383 02:23:44,520 --> 02:23:48,870 a reminder we have a special full length Sir Chris Wilson. 2384 02:23:50,010 --> 02:23:54,120 crackpot and the keeper. End of show song which is it's an 2385 02:23:54,120 --> 02:23:56,580 original tune and well worth listening to. 2386 02:23:58,710 --> 02:24:01,050 John C. Dvorak: Sure, Chris Sunberg night of the vortex ring 2387 02:24:01,050 --> 02:24:04,440 state from Mercer Island $51 Scott Nelson in Melbourne, 2388 02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:09,870 Florida. $50.01. Now the following people or $50 donors 2389 02:24:09,870 --> 02:24:13,140 name and location if available might Mitchell Kaufman in 2390 02:24:13,140 --> 02:24:18,450 Hillsboro, Oregon. Joe Winkie in Santa Rosa. 2391 02:24:18,570 --> 02:24:23,580 Adam Curry: Ah. Joe from Jambo Jambo Jambo Joe 2392 02:24:23,730 --> 02:24:24,390 John C. Dvorak: Jambo 2393 02:24:24,420 --> 02:24:27,000 Adam Curry: Jambo go look up the Jambo products, they're 2394 02:24:27,000 --> 02:24:28,170 fantastic, everybody. 2395 02:24:29,460 --> 02:24:33,390 John C. Dvorak: He gets some good new ideas nonnamous G in 2396 02:24:33,390 --> 02:24:37,380 Raleigh, North Carolina Julian Robins in Aptos, California. Hey 2397 02:24:37,380 --> 02:24:42,180 Soos Allen in Austin, Texas. And last but not least, Baron Allen 2398 02:24:42,180 --> 02:24:46,050 being over here in Oak town, Oakland, California. I want to 2399 02:24:46,050 --> 02:24:50,730 thank all these folks for producing show 1141 and hope we 2400 02:24:50,730 --> 02:24:54,060 have another good donation segment on the next Thursday 2401 02:24:54,060 --> 02:24:54,420 show. 2402 02:24:54,450 --> 02:24:57,210 Adam Curry: Yes and thank you to everyone who came in under $50. 2403 02:24:57,450 --> 02:25:00,540 Most of you will do that for if you're right under That for 2404 02:25:00,540 --> 02:25:04,620 anonymity but a lot of you are on programs so you do both. And 2405 02:25:04,620 --> 02:25:08,370 the the subscription programs are very helpful to us. They do 2406 02:25:08,370 --> 02:25:12,600 keep a bass going. There's a very low ones, you know, $4 a 2407 02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:15,900 month $5 A month you can do 11 elevens 30 threes, there's a 2408 02:25:15,900 --> 02:25:18,390 number of good ones. Please check out all the opportunities 2409 02:25:18,390 --> 02:25:18,600 at 2410 02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:21,630 Unknown: VO rec.org/in 2411 02:25:21,720 --> 02:25:24,840 Adam Curry: a thank you for your courage. Karma is as requested 2412 02:25:24,840 --> 02:25:26,610 jobs, jobs, 2413 02:25:26,730 --> 02:25:29,760 Unknown: jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs 2414 02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:47,730 you've got karma? Well, it's kind of short. 2415 02:25:47,730 --> 02:25:49,830 Adam Curry: Actually. We only have two birthdays to look at 2416 02:25:49,830 --> 02:25:55,200 hydrocodone tomorrow turns 46 on the 29th and tomorrow may 27 2417 02:25:55,200 --> 02:25:59,400 which is actually already today 54 years old and trips around 2418 02:25:59,400 --> 02:26:02,820 the Sun our very own Sir Chris Wilson. We say happy birthday to 2419 02:26:02,820 --> 02:26:05,400 both of you from everybody here at the best podcast in the 2420 02:26:05,400 --> 02:26:18,060 universe don't want to be a douche when on the list are 2421 02:26:18,060 --> 02:26:22,260 Stephen Abbas rego has upped his game and he changes his peers to 2422 02:26:22,260 --> 02:26:26,040 the title of Baronet for another $1,000 in support of the no 2423 02:26:26,040 --> 02:26:29,100 agenda podcast. Thank you for your courage Sir Stephen of 2424 02:26:29,100 --> 02:26:34,920 Oswego. Now brand new freshly minted bearer net 1234 We've got 2425 02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:37,350 four nice things to do one of them could be a dame we don't 2426 02:26:37,350 --> 02:26:40,560 know. No, we do know because he wants to be sir rib ear. So we 2427 02:26:40,560 --> 02:26:43,440 need to blades at the ready. 2428 02:26:43,949 --> 02:26:45,149 John C. Dvorak: Coming coming. 2429 02:26:45,630 --> 02:26:53,100 Adam Curry: Okay, I'll take that anonymous, James Varga and 2430 02:26:53,130 --> 02:26:56,550 Michael Robinson Please all of you step up to the podium you 2431 02:26:56,550 --> 02:26:59,250 are about to become knights of the no agenda roundtable thanks 2432 02:26:59,250 --> 02:27:02,340 to your support of the program in the amount of $1,000 or more 2433 02:27:02,340 --> 02:27:05,430 and you get a title you get a seat and you get some cool stuff 2434 02:27:05,430 --> 02:27:10,020 to consume. So I hereby pronounce the KV sir Revere, sir 2435 02:27:10,020 --> 02:27:15,720 snores a lot, sir ru ARD of mark an S and Sir Max rockin tat tan 2436 02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:18,720 ski night of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Victoria 2437 02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:21,600 gentlemen, for you hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay. 2438 02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:24,870 Beaujolais and Robles, Sean Corona, extra peanut butter 2439 02:27:24,870 --> 02:27:29,760 m&ms, warm beer and cold women journals and ginger ale and 2440 02:27:29,760 --> 02:27:32,340 mutton and meat I ran out of stuff to put at the table go to 2441 02:27:32,340 --> 02:27:36,690 no agenda nation.com/rings and hand off your information to 2442 02:27:36,720 --> 02:27:40,470 Eric the show. He'll get it to you as soon as possible. quick 2443 02:27:40,470 --> 02:27:43,950 mention of our meetups that are coming up may 25, eastern North 2444 02:27:43,950 --> 02:27:46,920 Carolina, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania also on the 25th 2445 02:27:46,920 --> 02:27:50,940 Tel Aviv, Israel may 29. The 30th of May Charleston, South 2446 02:27:50,940 --> 02:27:54,450 Carolina June 2, Sarasota, Florida the sixth and Seattle, 2447 02:27:54,780 --> 02:27:57,630 the seventh of June, Toronto eighth of June, Oklahoma City 2448 02:27:57,630 --> 02:28:01,770 June 9 Knoxville somewhere those should be June 12. I'd love to 2449 02:28:01,770 --> 02:28:05,370 do a meet up in London. The keeper and I will be there. If 2450 02:28:05,370 --> 02:28:08,190 someone can get that at no agenda. meetups.com We'd love to 2451 02:28:08,190 --> 02:28:11,760 meet some of our UK folk, June 12. Wednesday, June 12 would be 2452 02:28:11,760 --> 02:28:15,600 the day for us. After that is June 15. In Copenhagen, we won't 2453 02:28:15,600 --> 02:28:18,900 be able to make that June 28. The South West London 2454 02:28:18,900 --> 02:28:22,380 unfortunately we won't be able to attend that. So maybe we can 2455 02:28:22,620 --> 02:28:25,980 get the same people to do a quickie on the on the 12th July 2456 02:28:25,980 --> 02:28:31,530 4 Seattle in July 13 in Atlanta, and whoever sent us the 2457 02:28:31,530 --> 02:28:35,220 Cuisinart ice cream maker. Thank you. I wish I knew who it was. 2458 02:28:35,880 --> 02:28:37,140 So it could thank you properly. 2459 02:28:37,410 --> 02:28:39,060 John C. Dvorak: Just got an anonymous queasy. 2460 02:28:39,480 --> 02:28:41,040 Adam Curry: I just I just showed up 2461 02:28:41,400 --> 02:28:42,570 John C. Dvorak: one or two cord. 2462 02:28:42,810 --> 02:28:48,600 Adam Curry: It's the big one. Yeah. It's nice. Okay, we just 2463 02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:52,320 have one is an Amazon Amazon Amazon shipment but there was no 2464 02:28:52,320 --> 02:28:53,130 note No. 2465 02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:55,440 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Amazon fails to put notes and they're 2466 02:28:55,440 --> 02:28:58,410 supposed to put notes it was in a big giant gift bag. 2467 02:28:58,769 --> 02:29:01,439 Adam Curry: No, it wasn't in a gift bag. It was just in a box. 2468 02:29:02,069 --> 02:29:03,089 And that was it. Yeah. 2469 02:29:03,779 --> 02:29:06,209 John C. Dvorak: ever seen. You said you send as a gift you 2470 02:29:06,209 --> 02:29:08,429 check that box and you it's just a bag? 2471 02:29:08,849 --> 02:29:11,339 Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Or you say I want I want to add a note and 2472 02:29:11,339 --> 02:29:14,369 they just print off a piece of paper with a note. Yes, thanks. 2473 02:29:14,549 --> 02:29:17,309 It's not even a nice card or anything. 2474 02:29:17,519 --> 02:29:19,619 John C. Dvorak: No, no. And it's a bag. The bag is just some 2475 02:29:19,619 --> 02:29:21,389 cheap bagged. Throw everything in. 2476 02:29:22,530 --> 02:29:25,410 Adam Curry: Yeah, there's still there's still talk of me being 2477 02:29:25,410 --> 02:29:28,950 one of the hosts of the European Song Festival for 2020. I think 2478 02:29:28,950 --> 02:29:33,450 it'd be ideal. If not, I do have a backup. The millennials here 2479 02:29:33,450 --> 02:29:37,050 had a great idea. We should do a twitch a Twitch stream makes so 2480 02:29:37,050 --> 02:29:40,710 much sense. I mean, think about it. And we could actually make 2481 02:29:40,710 --> 02:29:41,670 money while doing it. 2482 02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:45,690 Unknown: You know their work is make money. While Twitch 2483 02:29:45,690 --> 02:29:47,700 Adam Curry: has a whole financial thing that people can 2484 02:29:47,700 --> 02:29:50,190 know. I didn't know that. Yeah, they hit a button and then money 2485 02:29:50,190 --> 02:29:54,210 just pops into your account. Oh, nice. Yeah. So so we can 2486 02:29:54,420 --> 02:29:59,130 literally just be showing a monitor of whatever's happening. 2487 02:29:59,430 --> 02:30:03,990 And we can be You're off camera, doing our snarky voiceover and 2488 02:30:04,020 --> 02:30:06,450 if people like it clean clean clean they'll just be sending us 2489 02:30:06,450 --> 02:30:08,850 money. I think this is fantastic good ideas every 2490 02:30:08,850 --> 02:30:09,690 John C. Dvorak: one liner 2491 02:30:10,650 --> 02:30:14,310 Adam Curry: yes yeah i We can do this job we can do is we have a 2492 02:30:14,310 --> 02:30:16,260 whole year to prepare expecting that we 2493 02:30:16,260 --> 02:30:16,920 John C. Dvorak: will do it. 2494 02:30:17,490 --> 02:30:19,290 Adam Curry: Oh yeah, I'm not going to be hosting this show. 2495 02:30:19,290 --> 02:30:21,570 You know this is like no one's gonna let that happen. You'll be 2496 02:30:21,570 --> 02:30:24,240 John C. Dvorak: hosting the show that then we won't do it. I do 2497 02:30:24,240 --> 02:30:29,640 by myself. And what is Adam will get it totally crap. What is who 2498 02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:32,910 made him up? Do they have makeup artists there on the show that 2499 02:30:32,910 --> 02:30:35,340 they actually do what they're doing? He looks like an old 2500 02:30:35,340 --> 02:30:36,240 transvestite. 2501 02:30:36,270 --> 02:30:39,210 Adam Curry: Okay, thank you. I wanted to I wanted to say 2502 02:30:39,210 --> 02:30:40,860 something about them. Just hope he doesn't 2503 02:30:40,860 --> 02:30:41,580 John C. Dvorak: dance. 2504 02:30:42,630 --> 02:30:43,440 Adam Curry: Yeah, no kidding. 2505 02:30:45,510 --> 02:30:46,260 John C. Dvorak: Wow. Now 2506 02:30:48,030 --> 02:30:50,520 Adam Curry: this milkshake mania. I wanted to talk about 2507 02:30:50,520 --> 02:30:50,970 that first. 2508 02:30:51,120 --> 02:30:53,010 John C. Dvorak: Oh, she's I didn't really thought about 2509 02:30:53,010 --> 02:30:55,140 talking about but you're right is probably worth talking which 2510 02:30:55,140 --> 02:30:56,430 I should talk about it. Yeah, 2511 02:30:56,460 --> 02:31:00,060 Adam Curry: it's very important. So Nigel Farage was walking 2512 02:31:00,060 --> 02:31:02,670 around. Someone threw a milkshake over him. This is now 2513 02:31:02,670 --> 02:31:06,720 a thing you know. And that was interesting. Even on the 2514 02:31:06,780 --> 02:31:09,990 someone. Someone sent me a link from some a hole somewhere on 2515 02:31:09,990 --> 02:31:12,540 Reddit saying, Oh, John Adams should be worried they're going 2516 02:31:12,540 --> 02:31:15,570 to be throwing milkshakes. And I want to, I want to say, 2517 02:31:15,900 --> 02:31:19,230 John C. Dvorak: don't you remember the pie era? Well, no. 2518 02:31:20,040 --> 02:31:23,430 Here there's a little era about seven, eight years ago, people 2519 02:31:23,430 --> 02:31:28,380 got a pie in the face. Well, some Pie Guy this pie character. 2520 02:31:28,590 --> 02:31:30,720 I'm going Gates got a pie on his face. 2521 02:31:31,410 --> 02:31:33,810 Adam Curry: Well, milkshakes are different for a very specific 2522 02:31:33,810 --> 02:31:40,740 reason. But first, I want to go back to the year 2000. Pim for 2523 02:31:40,740 --> 02:31:46,770 10. Two weeks before he was assassinated. People were 2524 02:31:46,770 --> 02:31:51,570 throwing cakes in his face. Yeah. And when and I did some 2525 02:31:51,570 --> 02:31:57,960 research on this. There is a when people start throwing food, 2526 02:31:58,920 --> 02:32:02,820 that it is an actual act of desperation. Because food has 2527 02:32:02,820 --> 02:32:08,700 value and and more importantly, there is a connection between us 2528 02:32:08,730 --> 02:32:16,560 and primates, apes chimpanzees who throw shit. And I believe 2529 02:32:16,560 --> 02:32:20,610 that the milkshake particularly the chocolate milkshake is a 2530 02:32:20,610 --> 02:32:26,970 very primal thing that is deep in us as it's a metaphor for 2531 02:32:26,970 --> 02:32:30,270 throwing feces at somebody. But it is 2532 02:32:30,300 --> 02:32:33,030 John C. Dvorak: what did Faraj have a chocolate Yes, chocolate 2533 02:32:33,030 --> 02:32:33,300 shake, 2534 02:32:33,300 --> 02:32:41,490 Adam Curry: I believe it is a extremely violent act. And it 2535 02:32:41,490 --> 02:32:45,690 should not be tolerated. It's not funny. And it it pretty much 2536 02:32:45,720 --> 02:32:50,190 always leads to something bad. The people who do this have a 2537 02:32:50,190 --> 02:32:55,440 screw loose. It's different from hitting someone which is a whole 2538 02:32:55,440 --> 02:33:00,090 different area. But when you do the milkshake, it is a primal 2539 02:33:00,210 --> 02:33:06,300 scream of frustration and anyone who does that is odd is in my 2540 02:33:06,300 --> 02:33:08,490 mind. Borderline dangerous. 2541 02:33:08,820 --> 02:33:11,460 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I agree. It's a it was a strawberry 2542 02:33:11,460 --> 02:33:12,000 shake. 2543 02:33:13,980 --> 02:33:14,700 Adam Curry: Well, that's 2544 02:33:16,710 --> 02:33:17,580 John C. Dvorak: is that mean? 2545 02:33:18,089 --> 02:33:20,579 Adam Curry: I don't know. It's not dark enough to look like 2546 02:33:20,579 --> 02:33:29,579 feces. But I think the comparison still holds. It is it 2547 02:33:29,579 --> 02:33:33,959 cannot it's not funny. It should not be allowed people who do 2548 02:33:33,959 --> 02:33:38,039 this need to be dealt with it is very, very violent. And it's and 2549 02:33:38,039 --> 02:33:43,139 people who do this on the verge of a psychological breakdown. 2550 02:33:43,740 --> 02:33:46,050 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this guy was a fanatical Remainer and a 2551 02:33:46,050 --> 02:33:47,970 Corbin fan. Yeah. 2552 02:33:48,600 --> 02:33:52,590 Adam Curry: Well, the people who did that to him 14 before he was 2553 02:33:52,590 --> 02:33:58,410 assassinated were Anna animal rights activist greenies. And 2554 02:33:58,440 --> 02:34:02,370 one of them ate not the same one but one of the same persuasion 2555 02:34:02,370 --> 02:34:05,850 wound up assassinating him shooting him in the head in his 2556 02:34:06,060 --> 02:34:09,600 right right to his face Boom Boom goodbye. And by the way 2557 02:34:09,600 --> 02:34:13,440 he's now out free walking around he served his time it's crazy 2558 02:34:13,440 --> 02:34:16,800 country the Netherlands that works 2559 02:34:17,160 --> 02:34:18,750 John C. Dvorak: guys should be locked up for good 2560 02:34:18,869 --> 02:34:21,059 Adam Curry: no we don't have that in the in the Netherlands 2561 02:34:21,089 --> 02:34:24,239 is no locked up for good. In fact, there's often a joke it's 2562 02:34:24,239 --> 02:34:28,889 easier to kill your wife than to divorce her much much cheaper is 2563 02:34:28,889 --> 02:34:32,219 much less hassle and a couple of years in jail you're good to go. 2564 02:34:34,650 --> 02:34:35,640 John C. Dvorak: Sounds like Yeah. 2565 02:34:37,200 --> 02:34:39,660 Adam Curry: I have nothing more to add other than this is not 2566 02:34:39,660 --> 02:34:44,190 funny. It should be dealt with as an extremely is a violent 2567 02:34:44,190 --> 02:34:50,820 act. It's a violent act. And don't try that in Texas. Oh, 2568 02:34:51,689 --> 02:34:53,279 Unknown: bad idea in Texas. 2569 02:34:56,250 --> 02:35:00,000 John C. Dvorak: So I found they found a very funny clip demo. 2570 02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:06,720 accuracy now did which is gonna be surprises. You know? You 2571 02:35:06,720 --> 02:35:09,060 always have to wonder how serious everybody is about 2572 02:35:09,060 --> 02:35:11,340 things when you have a clip like this floating around, it doesn't 2573 02:35:11,340 --> 02:35:20,670 get any play. This is Lindsey Graham discussing impeachment. 2574 02:35:20,670 --> 02:35:23,340 There's just the basic theories of impeachment. I believe this 2575 02:35:23,340 --> 02:35:25,530 is during the Clinton administration when he was still 2576 02:35:25,530 --> 02:35:29,310 a congressman. And sorry, part yeah, and he could take part in 2577 02:35:29,490 --> 02:35:30,840 impeachment proceedings. 2578 02:35:31,080 --> 02:35:36,120 In 1999. Then Congressman Graham argued for the impeachment of 2579 02:35:36,120 --> 02:35:39,390 President Bill Clinton for seeking to hide evidence of his 2580 02:35:39,390 --> 02:35:42,450 affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, this is what he 2581 02:35:42,450 --> 02:35:47,610 said. You don't even have to be convicted of a crime to lose 2582 02:35:47,610 --> 02:35:53,400 your job. In this constitutional republic. This body determines 2583 02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:56,880 that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of 2584 02:35:56,880 --> 02:36:01,410 bounds in your role. Because impeachment is not about 2585 02:36:01,410 --> 02:36:06,990 punishment. impeachment is about cleansing the office. 2586 02:36:07,860 --> 02:36:12,720 impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the 2587 02:36:12,720 --> 02:36:15,780 office. All right. 2588 02:36:16,470 --> 02:36:20,430 I thought that was pretty good. was not what I seek is bullcrap. 2589 02:36:20,430 --> 02:36:23,040 And nobody's ever to go along with the program because of the 2590 02:36:23,040 --> 02:36:30,000 fact that in Congress is corrupt. Yes. So they're not you 2591 02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:32,940 know, they feel guilty about you know, go well, he's corrupt. Is 2592 02:36:32,940 --> 02:36:36,360 he more corrupt than I am? I don't know. Do more corrupt and 2593 02:36:36,360 --> 02:36:37,500 Adam Schiff? 2594 02:36:38,370 --> 02:36:39,210 Unknown: That guy? 2595 02:36:39,750 --> 02:36:41,490 Adam Curry: Did you hear what happened? And now only Wolf, did 2596 02:36:41,490 --> 02:36:45,600 you hear this? No. Oh, this was fantastic. So she's written a 2597 02:36:45,600 --> 02:36:50,190 book. I don't have the whole backstory that might see the 2598 02:36:50,190 --> 02:36:55,980 book here somewhere. The book is about outrage, killing, killing 2599 02:36:55,980 --> 02:36:58,830 people for just for who they love. Here it is. 2600 02:37:01,470 --> 02:37:04,710 John C. Dvorak: I always get Naomi Wolf, mixed up with Naomi 2601 02:37:04,710 --> 02:37:05,190 Klein. 2602 02:37:05,280 --> 02:37:08,880 Adam Curry: This is a show problem in general. We do this 2603 02:37:08,880 --> 02:37:09,600 all the time. 2604 02:37:09,810 --> 02:37:12,840 John C. Dvorak: And they're both left wing nuts. And but one of 2605 02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:15,720 them is actually got some reasonable, you know, logic to 2606 02:37:15,720 --> 02:37:18,810 her where she goes about her business, I think, I think 2607 02:37:18,810 --> 02:37:21,270 Woolston one I particularly don't like what she's the 2608 02:37:21,270 --> 02:37:26,910 Adam Curry: author of the book vagina, and the forthcoming 2609 02:37:26,910 --> 02:37:32,010 book, outrageous sex censorship and the criminalization of love. 2610 02:37:32,940 --> 02:37:36,660 And she expected her teacher, she expected to discuss the 2611 02:37:36,660 --> 02:37:43,050 historical revelations about people being killed for being 2612 02:37:43,080 --> 02:37:49,350 gay, basically. And she went on the BBC to promote this. And now 2613 02:37:49,350 --> 02:37:53,430 this book is coming out in a week from now. And the host did 2614 02:37:53,430 --> 02:37:57,150 something phenomenal. He looked up some of the stuff that was in 2615 02:37:57,150 --> 02:38:01,740 the book. And it turns out, she had misinterpreted that 2616 02:38:01,980 --> 02:38:04,980 important term when it comes to killing people for who they 2617 02:38:04,980 --> 02:38:10,980 love. And this in this case, it's about buggery, in gay acts. 2618 02:38:11,490 --> 02:38:16,140 And the BBC host just basically ruined her entire book before it 2619 02:38:16,140 --> 02:38:17,370 even hit Amazon 2620 02:38:18,450 --> 02:38:21,030 Unknown: sentences, as I mentioned, of penal servitude 2621 02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:25,980 for 10 or 15 years, and I found like, several dozen executions. 2622 02:38:26,460 --> 02:38:30,660 But that was again, only looking at the Old Bailey records in the 2623 02:38:30,660 --> 02:38:35,940 crime tables. Execution correct. And this correct amiss 2624 02:38:35,940 --> 02:38:40,740 apprehension? That is in every website that the last man was 2625 02:38:40,740 --> 02:38:43,440 executed for sodomy, in Britain in 1835. 2626 02:38:43,590 --> 02:38:47,580 I don't I don't think you're right about this. One of the 2627 02:38:47,580 --> 02:38:51,420 cases that you look at that that's salient in your report is 2628 02:38:51,420 --> 02:38:57,360 that of Thomas silver, it says to teenagers will now convicted 2629 02:38:57,360 --> 02:39:04,380 more often indeed that year, which is 18 5914 year old Thomas 2630 02:39:04,380 --> 02:39:07,980 silver was actually executed for committing sodomy, the boy who 2631 02:39:07,980 --> 02:39:11,580 was indicted for an unnatural offense, guilty death recorded 2632 02:39:11,640 --> 02:39:14,460 this is the first time the phrase on natural offense and to 2633 02:39:14,460 --> 02:39:19,680 the Old Bailey records. Thomas Silva wasn't executed. Death 2634 02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:23,760 recorded I was really surprised by this, and I looked it up 2635 02:39:23,760 --> 02:39:27,870 death recorded is that is what in I think most of these cases 2636 02:39:27,870 --> 02:39:32,160 that you've, you've identified as executions, it doesn't mean 2637 02:39:32,160 --> 02:39:35,220 that he was executed. It was a category that was created in 2638 02:39:35,250 --> 02:39:39,360 1823, that allowed judges to abstain from pronouncing a 2639 02:39:39,360 --> 02:39:42,630 sentence of death on any capital convict whom they consider to be 2640 02:39:42,630 --> 02:39:45,240 a fit subject for pardon. I don't think any of the 2641 02:39:45,240 --> 02:39:47,610 executions you've identified here actually happened. 2642 02:39:48,840 --> 02:39:50,850 John C. Dvorak: Well, that's a really important thing to 2643 02:39:50,850 --> 02:39:54,510 investigate. What is your what is your understanding of what 2644 02:39:54,510 --> 02:39:55,710 death recorded means? Yes, 2645 02:39:55,710 --> 02:39:58,350 Unknown: recorded. This is also from that I've just read you the 2646 02:39:58,350 --> 02:40:01,320 definition of it there from the Old Bailey web. So, I've got 2647 02:40:01,320 --> 02:40:04,860 here a newspaper report about Thomas silver, and also 2648 02:40:04,860 --> 02:40:09,180 something from from the prison records that that showed the 2649 02:40:09,180 --> 02:40:11,790 date of his discharge. The prisoner 2650 02:40:11,790 --> 02:40:15,990 was found guilty and sentence of death was recorded. Yeah. We 2651 02:40:15,990 --> 02:40:18,270 recommended the prisoner to Mercy on account of his youth. 2652 02:40:18,660 --> 02:40:22,500 So he I think this I think this is a kind of when I found this, 2653 02:40:22,500 --> 02:40:24,780 I didn't really know what to do with it, because I think it is, 2654 02:40:24,810 --> 02:40:28,200 I think it's quite a big problem with your argument. Also, it's 2655 02:40:28,200 --> 02:40:32,190 the nature of the offense here. Thomas Silva committed an 2656 02:40:32,190 --> 02:40:34,260 indecent assault on a six year old boy. 2657 02:40:36,270 --> 02:40:41,580 Adam Curry: So, oops, God, that's horrible. What happens as 2658 02:40:41,580 --> 02:40:44,280 a publisher is going well, we have fact checkers, but 2659 02:40:44,280 --> 02:40:47,490 ultimately, we rely on the author. What happens in a case 2660 02:40:47,490 --> 02:40:50,910 like this? I mean, can they pull the book back still or printed? 2661 02:40:50,940 --> 02:40:52,980 John C. Dvorak: They actually should pull the book back? 2662 02:40:53,280 --> 02:40:55,320 Adam Curry: Of course they have to the whole premise of the 2663 02:40:55,320 --> 02:41:00,870 book. It's about being condemned and killed for loving who you 2664 02:41:00,870 --> 02:41:03,900 love. This is what that's like your vinegar book, you know, 2665 02:41:03,900 --> 02:41:07,050 like all of a sudden, yeah, well, vinegar kills you. I don't 2666 02:41:07,050 --> 02:41:09,360 know something what happened? I think you're smart actually, for 2667 02:41:09,870 --> 02:41:13,440 for delaying the release, make sure you have all your your T's 2668 02:41:13,440 --> 02:41:14,940 crossed and your eyes dotted do 2669 02:41:15,510 --> 02:41:17,610 John C. Dvorak: more and more weird stuff about vinegar. We're 2670 02:41:17,610 --> 02:41:21,180 doing some more. Mimi's gotten into this vinegar thing. Now 2671 02:41:21,180 --> 02:41:23,820 some crazy stuff. She's taking 2672 02:41:23,820 --> 02:41:29,400 Adam Curry: the shaming to heart. No. All right, we have a 2673 02:41:29,400 --> 02:41:36,180 number of end of show clips. As mentioned earlier, Sir Chris, 2674 02:41:36,180 --> 02:41:40,740 the drunken drunkard minstrel that song is titled The keeper. 2675 02:41:41,520 --> 02:41:45,360 It's an original that soon available on compact discs and 2676 02:41:45,360 --> 02:41:48,810 cassettes. We have an end of show from Tom Starkweather 2677 02:41:48,810 --> 02:41:51,630 always fun and Jesse coy Nelson just been knocking it out of the 2678 02:41:51,630 --> 02:41:55,260 park recently. So that is coming your way in a moment. If you're 2679 02:41:55,260 --> 02:42:00,840 listening to us on no agenda stream.com We've got the mark 2680 02:42:00,840 --> 02:42:05,400 and George Show, episode number 29 on deck for that. And I am 2681 02:42:05,400 --> 02:42:08,370 coming to you from the frontier of austin texas it's the capital 2682 02:42:08,370 --> 02:42:10,740 the drone Star state we're in FEMA Region number six and the 2683 02:42:10,740 --> 02:42:13,770 governmental maps in the morning everybody. I'm Adam curry 2684 02:42:14,099 --> 02:42:16,019 John C. Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we're still 2685 02:42:16,019 --> 02:42:21,659 waiting for 1999 Kw Florida go swinging by and John Cena 2686 02:42:21,990 --> 02:42:24,600 Adam Curry: we return on Thursday right here on no agenda 2687 02:42:24,600 --> 02:42:29,400 please remember to support us at devora.org/na until Thursday. 2688 02:42:29,910 --> 02:42:33,480 Adios mythos n such 2689 02:42:39,630 --> 02:42:40,740 Unknown: to three 2690 02:42:44,250 --> 02:42:46,140 Adam Curry: is this a good woman or what? No, 2691 02:42:46,140 --> 02:42:50,190 I can't remember. She's a keeper. Not only was she packed 2692 02:42:50,190 --> 02:42:51,600 light, but she 2693 02:42:51,600 --> 02:42:52,980 donates to the show 2694 02:42:53,310 --> 02:42:55,170 John C. Dvorak: yeah with packing light I would put a high 2695 02:42:55,170 --> 02:42:56,040 priority on 2696 02:43:01,140 --> 02:43:07,650 Unknown: span me younger years surrounded by Rockstar actresses 2697 02:43:07,650 --> 02:43:13,950 and models. What you see there this guy resigned myself to an 2698 02:43:13,950 --> 02:43:23,820 OTG lie. Jhansi Dvorak as my wife why Pickens pretty slim 2699 02:43:24,360 --> 02:43:30,660 when he came to our Rei and options then arrow Ana 2700 02:43:30,660 --> 02:43:39,750 podcasters way the patina used to love me the way I am even 2701 02:43:39,750 --> 02:43:50,520 though I'm a radio and is wider than donation Allah is deeper 2702 02:43:50,520 --> 02:44:02,520 than the loss in aviation each episode goes deeper reason why 2703 02:44:02,520 --> 02:44:14,850 you're never thought I'd find my text but you came here from 2704 02:44:14,850 --> 02:44:21,810 Chicago so well thank Obama as well. You know my love I'll 2705 02:44:21,810 --> 02:44:32,520 always be this was a retired phone an old BJ stronger than 5g 2706 02:44:32,520 --> 02:44:46,620 radiation radio station sin flirtatious texts to be the 2707 02:44:46,890 --> 02:44:54,480 reason why you're the keeper. Perfect. Is your beads bed 2708 02:44:54,480 --> 02:45:03,990 single as material for circus to ride is Jane go have done it all 2709 02:45:03,990 --> 02:45:11,070 for free and inspired by the love between you and me as we 2710 02:45:11,070 --> 02:45:17,280 drive off on our Airstream honeymoon but Sunday on a 2711 02:45:17,280 --> 02:45:25,770 Thursday happens all too soon can monetize the love tweet USB 2712 02:45:26,940 --> 02:45:39,450 make the perfect exit strategy bow lovers wire donation a loss 2713 02:45:39,450 --> 02:45:47,460 in a nation our love is stronger man 5g radiation our love is 2714 02:45:47,460 --> 02:45:58,560 hotter than a radio station two reds goes way when I see no 2715 02:45:58,560 --> 02:46:05,220 other reason you're the keeper than I saw your face now other 2716 02:46:05,220 --> 02:46:14,130 than the other reason you're the keeper You're skinny and unknown 2717 02:46:14,130 --> 02:46:24,090 cosmos to feed your reason your health insurance costs they're 2718 02:46:24,090 --> 02:46:32,490 getting steeper the other reason your key turned out off my 2719 02:46:32,490 --> 02:46:35,040 hearing aid so I guess yeah 2720 02:46:40,830 --> 02:46:42,420 Adam Curry: nickname according to the chat room Tina the 2721 02:46:42,420 --> 02:46:42,900 keeper. 2722 02:46:43,680 --> 02:46:47,670 John C. Dvorak: Tina the keeper and she'd be keeping you 2723 02:46:49,230 --> 02:46:53,580 Unknown: walked into the cabinet room. You had the group crying 2724 02:46:53,580 --> 02:46:54,150 chuck 2725 02:46:54,449 --> 02:46:56,489 Adam Curry: to watch what happened in the White House 2726 02:46:56,549 --> 02:46:58,019 would make your jaw drop. 2727 02:46:58,350 --> 02:47:00,210 John C. Dvorak: Crazy Nancy I tell you what, I've been 2728 02:47:00,210 --> 02:47:03,420 watching her and I have I have been watching her for a long 2729 02:47:03,420 --> 02:47:11,100 period of time. She's not the same person job. Bob boss she's 2730 02:47:11,100 --> 02:47:26,100 not the same person she's lost you all saw me minutes later I 2731 02:47:26,100 --> 02:47:29,190 was at a news conference I was extremely calm, calm or New York 2732 02:47:29,460 --> 02:47:33,720 I was probably even more so in that room so I was extremely 2733 02:47:33,720 --> 02:47:43,950 calm calm on both channels gather 2734 02:47:43,980 --> 02:47:49,050 Unknown: gathered in mass is a memo that describes how we're 2735 02:47:49,050 --> 02:47:53,160 going to take out seven countries in five years. Just 2736 02:47:53,160 --> 02:47:55,410 like witches that black Master 2737 02:47:55,740 --> 02:47:59,640 John C. Dvorak: is when I first came to office one of the first 2738 02:47:59,640 --> 02:48:04,080 meetings I had was at the Pentagon with generals evil 2739 02:48:04,170 --> 02:48:05,280 minds that blood 2740 02:48:05,280 --> 02:48:06,240 Unknown: destruction 2741 02:48:08,310 --> 02:48:11,070 John C. Dvorak: Bolton has always said let's go to war but 2742 02:48:11,070 --> 02:48:14,190 he's not the one who's gonna go on the forefront. He's a coward. 2743 02:48:16,290 --> 02:48:22,200 Adam Curry: Deaths construction. leaders of Iran are racketeers 2744 02:48:22,230 --> 02:48:29,670 John C. Dvorak: behind every problem is Iran what you said 2745 02:48:29,700 --> 02:48:32,460 Unknown: 2016 I liked it when you said no more stupid wars. 2746 02:48:34,230 --> 02:48:37,800 You got a rogue president in the White House surrounded by these 2747 02:48:37,830 --> 02:48:41,460 Uber hawks that thirst for another war with Iran. 2748 02:48:43,350 --> 02:48:45,300 International Atomic Energy Agency 2749 02:48:45,330 --> 02:48:49,170 Adam Curry: has never found Iran in contravention of stipulations 2750 02:48:49,170 --> 02:48:49,770 in the deal. 2751 02:48:51,750 --> 02:48:54,120 Unknown: If Iran wants to fight that will be 2752 02:48:54,120 --> 02:48:57,450 John C. Dvorak: the official end of Iran never threaten the 2753 02:48:57,450 --> 02:48:59,580 United States. Again, I'm not 2754 02:48:59,730 --> 02:49:01,050 Unknown: somebody that wants to go into 2755 02:49:01,050 --> 02:49:05,520 war in the United States heading towards another Middle East 2756 02:49:05,520 --> 02:49:07,590 showdown this time with Iran. 2757 02:49:20,370 --> 02:49:23,790 boruch.org/in A 2758 02:49:24,960 --> 02:49:26,460 sharp is attack