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Hi Adam curry Jhansi Devorah

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Thursday March 7 2019. This is
your award winning get my nation

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media assassination episode 1118
This is no agenda, tracking the

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new birther movement and
broadcasting live from the hub

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of European travel in the
stipple runway sleep in the

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morning, everybody. Hi, I'm Adam
curry

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from Northern Silicon Valley
where we shouting at the Canada

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30 threes everybody. I'm John C.
Dvorak.

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Raglan Buzzkill.

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Oh, what about Scandinavia and
30 threes? What's going on magic

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number time.

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The ministers laughed at 33 this
33 That's a lot of threes. 30

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threes? It was like a week of
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Hmm. And coincidence.
Coincidence? Coincidence.

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Netflix has a new show on which
is called? Well, it's called

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dark. It's a German show, but
they've dubbed it. So the voices

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are dubbed. Here's a it's
actually the whole show is is

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themed around this.

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You wrote about the lunar solar
cycle in which everything

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repeats itself every 33 years.

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From a cosmic point of view. In
our oscillatoria universe,

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roughly 33 years the moon's
orbit become synchronized to the

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sun, it's at that number.
Entering occurs in our world

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everywhere. Jesus performed a
total of 33 miracles. There were

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33 Lip knees of the angels.
Dante's 33 cantos enveloped

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purgatory 33 More in his
paradise.

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It's also the age of which the
antichrists rule began.

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Yeah, never doubt the magic
number.

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You know, I've run into I had a
guest on I was doing silicone

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spin. I had a guest, who sounded
great. He was he, he was at the

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end of the table, and his hand
he talked like that guy. Talk

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like this. So you could barely
hear him. In fact, you couldn't

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hear him. He would pick the mic
and pick him up and they jack up

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the mic. So it sounded great.
When you listen to the show, you

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had this guy with his voice like
that, like that guy. Those

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people would talk like that. You
cannot hear them.

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No, no, you can't. So your
question is,

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are we supposed to believe that
this guy's sitting around

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talking like that when nobody
can hear him? At three of this

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Baskin Robbins is first

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33. I thought that 32 flavors, I
thought they were one short of

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the number. It's 3030. So here I
am in, in the hotel room and the

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runway suite at Schiphol
Airport. Sounds good. Well,

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yeah, it's soundproof, which is
great, because you can see the

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planes you can see him taken
off. You can't hear him. But

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it's also it's like dead in
here. It's like living in a

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coffin. I mean, even the air
doesn't make noise. Turn on the

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heating now. No noise. Yeah, but
it's good. It's good to be here.

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I've learned a lot of things.
What's the name of this? Hotel?

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Cool. Well, how about I not give
the name of the hotel? How's

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that for? How's that for an
idea? How about not do the

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towels are in the airport?
There's not many. There's really

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only three I think so

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that you always stay to B and
B's or somebody's house. Yeah,

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but it makes

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no sense to stay in Amsterdam
anymore. I mean, it's just too

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busy. You can't get get around
anywhere. So it would have to be

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somewhere I'd want to be in and
for some reason, which I don't

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have. I was here only for two
things. Of course, one to see

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Christina who's in Rotterdam
easier to get there from

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somewhere in the middle of town
from the airport. But I was here

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for for my buddy Lexuses book
release is a book book. So for

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some context for people who are
new to the show, the first guy

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who ever hired me when I was 19,
right out of the pirate radio

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station in Amsterdam was Lex
Harding. And he he hired me and

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now started my my professional
career. But he dates back to the

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the the North Sea pirate ships.
And if you if you haven't heard

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of them, then there's a pretty
good movie called I think the

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boat that rocked which is a
gives you an idea of what it was

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like was not really exactly
true. So he, someone wrote a

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book about him in a narrative
style, like an interview style,

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and it's 50 years of what he has
done for media ever since the

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pirate ships and he started
telling me he really brought

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commercial media to the
Netherlands. I don't know if

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everyone should be happy about
it. But he did bring that it's a

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it's a political story, of
course fighting against the

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mainstream government controlled
airwaves. And he wanted to

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promote his book on the number
one kind of hoity toity elite

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talk show. Hosted by actually
she she's a She's an American,

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but she moved to Holland when
she was 11 Eva G, Nick. And

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they'd said, Well, yeah, we'd
love to promote your book. But

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you're not really that
interesting. If you can bring

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Adam curry along, we'll have
your

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he called, it's kind of
embarrassed.

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He really wants to promote this
book. He's I think he's 7273. So

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he's kind of this is one of his
last projects. He's going to do

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something else. And so yeah, to
me ticket. I'm there no problem.

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But it was, I learned a lot of
things on this trip. First of

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all, if I can start with
Schiphol Airport, I have not

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seen this anywhere in the state
ship but now on every door of

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the airport it's as a sign this
terminal uses a Wi Fi and

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Bluetooth based tracking system.
Your privacy is ensured?

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What is the wasn't didn't they
used to have signage and and

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hospitals warning people who had
pacemakers or any sort of device

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in the bodies that you couldn't
have a cell phone on? Yeah, you

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couldn't do that you couldn't do
this. But now it's just

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everywhere. Is that what does
that what you're telling me?

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No, what I'm telling you is,
whenever when you that's what

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you're telling me. When you
right on top, when you walk

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through the airport, you are as
an individual being tracked. If

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you have a phone, on your person
or any device that has either or

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Wi Fi and Bluetooth enabled,
they are tracking you or they're

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watching your movements. Why?
For your for your security, of

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course. Hello, that's easy. Next
thing I learned, I hopped in a

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cab, and he made I don't know if
you remember that so many a lot

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of Tesla's are taxis in in
Amsterdam. And they've upgraded

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them so they went from the s 90s
to the x. And if you go to the

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yes goofball, the good one.
Well, I waited for an X I didn't

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I waited like one car because
there's enough of them. And I

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want to sit in this thing. The
Goofy door open up almost hit me

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in the face. The driver opens
the the gullwing door they go

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stand back a little bit. To get
in. I'm talking to the guy. It's

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an interesting vehicle on the
inside. But he says now this car

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is we have I think that a fleet
of 50 for this particular cab

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company. Just 10% of them think
it was four or five of the 54 He

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says they Creek and Matt let me
tell you this thing Creek like

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crazy. When you break the creek
when you move the steering wheel

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the whole it's just like the
whole car was creaking. It was

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really

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awesome. You're using goes bad
glues.

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That's That's what I thought it
would be. But I mean, if it was

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bad glue, wood wood is that.
Does that mean the the joints

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are the breaking point if it's
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I have no idea I've never done
this story is brand new to me.

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Well, I

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think we should pay attention to
it because he says it's about

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10% everywhere. And these cab
drivers know because they talk

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to each other. So something to
look out for now new rules in

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the Netherlands they already
have these spots on the highway

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where you know the speed zone
where they they hit you at the

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beginning and then they say you
better drive 80 kilometers an

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hour here because we know how
long it should take you to get

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to the other end. Right? speed
zones? Yeah, but now they've

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added something new. All the
overpasses have cameras that are

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specifically installed to catch
drivers on their smartphone. And

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this is all algorithmic it's
automated. So if you have a

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smartphone in your hand while
the camera catches you, you get

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an automatic 240 euro fine sent
home. Wow, that's pretty pretty

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efficient.

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It was we should be doing that
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I'm not against it really. I
don't like the spying aspect.

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But man there are so many people
on their smartphones. So we go

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to the studio and the show
starts at 11pm is live 11 to

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midnight.

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But oh they actually run it at
those hours they don't run it on

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a delay. No, no it's live late
night talk shows you're down

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about five or six in the
afternoon right now

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and this you know because that
politicians you know news of the

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day so for instance, you know
Well Michael Jackson you know

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with the documentary now it's
the documentary has been

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broadcasting in the Netherlands.
And so what do you think you

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know, the radio stations are
refusing to play Michael

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Jackson. Tim, this is bullshit.
The total horse crap this radio

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stations have been doing I've
been pulling this stunt before

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decades. What didn't we just
have it with Baby it's cold

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outside off. Let's stop playing
that. Rock and roll is gotta go

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we're breaking all records,
steam, steam rolling, Abba

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steamrolling disco, you know,
this is the oldest radio

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promotion trick in the world to
get your station call letters

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have to be promoted. And that
oh, we're not going to play any

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Michael Jackson, please. Yeah,

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was even some VG I saw an
article by Cambray and some

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email. Not Vijay. I'm sorry, but
big DJ that does the big dances.

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The raves.

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Also not playing Michael
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Yeah, he made a big fuss about
it. And I'm thinking about it.

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Wait a minute, I never heard of
this person. You're gonna

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boycott

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Quincy Jones. Way to go. That's
the guy I want to boycott.

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Anyway, so that's we're waiting
for, for the show to start. The

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country is going nuts. They're
not on the street. They're all

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inside. And people are jumping
up and down in the green room.

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Because massive upset I ox beat
rail Madrid, in the I think it's

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the UEFA Champions League,
whatever round they're in. And

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this hasn't happened in 22
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went nuts. When completely G
completely. There were guys the

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next day on on the same show,
actually, I think was the same

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show that I was on the night
before. And these were, you

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know, like sports commentators
were reading poetry, their

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poetry about this match. I mean,
it was bizarre. It does just

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give beside themselves with joy.

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Yeah, that's kind of I've always
been fascinated by this, which

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is an because it does. It does
something to the whole country

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that is psychological. And I've
always thought it was something

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sinister about it. Because of
the nature of it too, because of

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the insanity of it. And I have
always thought it was had. It

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was one of the reasons they kept
trying to push soccer down the

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throats of the American public.
Which we've never really adapted

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to. Because we have we developed
our own games. And we don't

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really have room for another
one. But there are people

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European style people or lip
Joes. You know, we're all into

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soccer.

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Yeah. Well, we know it'll never
work in the US because you can't

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stop for commercial. So it
hasn't exactly has no televised

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future in the ointment has no
televised future for now, if

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we're now on the ointment like
that, that's good. Okay, other

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things happening here. Just I'm
almost done with this little

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rundown give, you know what's
happening. Big raucous as the

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Dutch healthcare system, which I
learned by the way really is

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completely communist. I didn't
realize that you even if you

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want it to you cannot pay
privately for services anymore.

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With the with the new Dutch
system, which went into effect?

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I don't know, 10 years ago, I
think it's, it's, it's not

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allowed. They have combined
they've completely it's

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basically Medicare for all you
pay, you know, 150 euros or

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something, it does go to it to
an actual private insurance

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company. But you cannot go to
any hospital, any doctor and

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say, I want to skip the line
because you're waiting in line

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for any kind of scheduled
service. I want to pay

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privately. No, no. If it's not
through the insurer, you're not

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allowed to do it. Why? That's
the law.

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That's what why why is the law
implement? What's the rationale?

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Fuck if I

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know to bankrupt everybody, I
don't know. I don't know what

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the to get everyone sick to
determine when they can die. I

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really don't understand why. But
isn't that what some people are

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claiming with Medicare for all
the same for the states the same

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idea?

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I haven't seen any that
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Okay. Anyway, the reason I bring
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to do, because apparently the
system doesn't work too well. So

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they're cutting here and there
and one of the cuts they made is

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in vitro insemination for
lesbians. Which up till now used

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to be a no they cut that. Yes,
it used to be a paid service.

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And now it's like no, no, no
babies for you.

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Oh, that's gotta go. You have a
few people upset?

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Yes, I would say but the most
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people in thronging it and we've
talked about this.

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Before you go to the Groningen
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right. You just mentioned which
is can you pay to have that

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part of it was not on the
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You cannot even if you went to
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in the UK,

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they glow gladly accept your
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Christina? Her? She did an MRI?
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yeah, exactly. So if you leave
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yes, of this of this system,
then you can do it. But yeah, I

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think the whole the whole
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euros a shot. And it doesn't
always take. So now,

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back to groaning, groaning Okay,

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so we've been talking about the
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of years. And of course, our own
void zero mark lives there. And

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he's been given us first hand
information, and all shook up

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now, why were these earthquakes
happening? Common knowledge,

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everyone knew that this is
because of the fracking, that

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the judges are doing up there
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earthquakes have caused, you
know, buildings to you know,

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some basically to collapse
others, you know, just ripping

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it the seams that are all
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as a lot of historic buildings
have been destroyed by this

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process.

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And so finally, after years of
this going on, there's going to

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be a party mountaire on Katha a
parliamentary inquiry which is

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kind of comparable to a special
prosecutor almost like a Moller

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investigation into what's been
going on how long people knew

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about it. Why nothing was done
of course is all this is that

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talked about so is the number
one guy so one shell that they

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knew this I knew this was
happening for years, the

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politicians knew it. They didn't
do anything about it. And so now

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we're going to turn every
overturn over stone over and

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find the culprits. It just
happens to be two weeks before a

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very important election here
that this is announced.

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Obviously, then the country is
very divided. It's almost it's

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almost like the states where you
have you know, politics and

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media, West Coast, East Coast,
everyone in the middle is just

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flyover Shut up slave state. So
Froning, way up north outside of

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the the, the kernel of the media
and politics was kind of

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centered around Amsterdam, The
Hague. And so no one believes

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that it's just there. It's
ripping everyone apart. The

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North hates the middle the
middle hates the rest. The South

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hates everybody. It's it's just
like the US fractal. It is a

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fractal. I wish I had the frog.
I first had the fractal jingle.

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Yes. Well, this is a lot. They
moved as you as you wrap this we

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can transfer what's going on in
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Well, let me just give you one
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fine. We'll wrap this. So yes,
what's going? Yeah, actually,

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they had a earthquake in Canada.
Navia. Right. Did I did I read

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that somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere in the
flat area 4.6 quake, which was

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and it was, and the Canadians
don't even think twice about

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this. They stopped all fracking.
In this. It was in the blow huge

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region of Alberta. And it's not
even it's not even an issue.

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They know that it's that
fracking causes quakes in some

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areas. And they just took care
of it. It's not like there's a

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debate. I don't understand why.
Why in Holland and elsewhere.

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There's a debate about it. And
that Canadians, by the way, are

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very savvy about oil
technologies. They not only have

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real oil that they can drill
for. They have fracking and they

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have shale oil. They have tar
sands. I mean, if anybody knows

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about oil, the oil business or
the people that are on Alberta,

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do you have a clip? Do you have
a clip, I give a clip 4.6 quake

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Canada,

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the right leader says Vesta
energy reported the activity

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early Monday morning and
immediately shut down its

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operations. The aer is now
ordering that those operations

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remain stopped indefinitely. The
regulators order reading in part

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quote, It considers it necessary
to suspend the well in order to

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protect the public and the
environment in order that all

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operations at the site are
suspended immediately, unless

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otherwise directed. Now no one
was injured and no properties

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were damaged. fracking
operations started back on

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January 29. At the same color
red year up until March 4 When

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that quake happened. The Alberta
energy regulator is now ordering

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Vesta to submit operational data
for that time period and list

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any current or future operations
for fracking in the red urine

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Sylvan Lake areas. Vesta is also
ordered to submit a fracturing

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operating plan looking at how we
can eliminate or reduce any

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future activity that could cause
a quick like this. All of those

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orders must be given to the AER
by March 11. Mr. Energy

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responded with a statement as
well reading in part the safety

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of the public employees and
contractors is paramount. And

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Vesta takes this incident very
seriously. The company is

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cooperating with the Alberta
energy regulator and is focused

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on meeting the conditions
required to lift that order. Now

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blinking Once the regulator gets
all of those documents that it

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needs, from Vesta, it will look
into if the proper regulations

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were followed in this case, then
it can look into the next steps.

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But there's no timeline at this
point of when investors

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operations could be back up and
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They just totally get gas up.
They're just done in this

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dicking around having a special
investigator that just shut it

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down, done, go over the
documents and see what the

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hell's going on here. Well, this
baffles me how these people in

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these other areas are so
buffaloed, and that the public

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or any member of the public
would take the side of the

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frakkers, when all of a sudden
you're having an earthquake.

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It's just make it's never made
any sense to me. I have

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the Canadian Minister of
Environment and Climate Change.

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I didn't know that was an actual
post environment and climate

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change. Her

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name is Canadians are imperfect

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Catherine McKenna. She was at a
Trudeau rally where he was

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ignoring anything sad about what
he's been doing. And this is how

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the Minister of climate change
sounds.

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So let's talk about climate
change for a second who believes

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is real. Who believes in
science? We got a report last

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year that said we have 12 years
to take serious climate action.

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We are all in this together. We
need to act. And just remember

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last year, who remembers last
summer I do? Who remembers the

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extreme heat that we felt last
summer? Who remembers that

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people literally died?

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It is for her astonishing? How
come where there's only climate

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when it's hot? Yeah, that's when
it's cold. I mean, I had said

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something on Twitter. Hey, it's
good. You know, you some do you

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make some joke about is freezing
cold. And then you bitch and

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moan you say something about
climate change? Oh, Trump,

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whether it's not, whether it's
not climate, whether it's not

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climate? These people do the
same thing on the other side of

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the coin, it's arguable to me.

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No, you can believe it, you know
it by now. It's staggered. Okay.

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That's

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the extreme heat that we felt
last summer, who remembers that

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people literally died of extreme
heat. I've called people I

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called Mothers.

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I called Mothers. Like she's
calling mothers of soldiers who

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were killed overseas, I called
Mothers in it.

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In British Columbia, where there
were forest fires. Remember

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those forest fires, they were
scared for their kids to go

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outside, because the air quality
was so bad. And who remembers a

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couple years ago, just by the
DVP, where there was a flash

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flood rains. And it was actually
flooded the DVP. And it drops a

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whole bunch of commuters.

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Now, all of this talk, which I
think John and I really, you

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know, we don't believe we're
going to be dead in 12 years, we

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don't believe that if we don't
change something significantly,

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it's all going to be over in 10
to 12 years.

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And we have, we have backup, we
have plenty of plenty of

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plenty of backup. However,
people are being affected by

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this to an extreme degree, that
children certainly, of course,

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children are being abused and
pushed, pushed in front of

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crowds and television cameras
after they've been brainwashed

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with this. And it's just
repetition. You just keep

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repeating it. You keep saying
that you say stuff like this

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woman is saying, but you have
fires. Now kids hear this, this

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thing called the internet,
they're on it. And when they

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grew up, and when they're a
little bit older, and they're

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thinking about having kids, what
do you think happens? Well enter

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the birth strikers.

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And why are you on birth strike
life?

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Because I'm terrified. And
That's putting it mildly. So our

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planet is in a kind of collapse.
The natural world is collapsing

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around us. And that's actually
happening right now.

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Yes. So, yes.

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Looking out the window. Not at
the bud flush. I see people go

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into work and they're just in
the trees are still here. And

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there's grass on the

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so this is, Oh no, you're wrong.
This is a movement. It's the

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birth striker movement. These
are this is the BBC interview.

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These women are mobilized, have
you collectively they are going

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on strike. They are not going to
give birth because they feel it

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will only be worse for the
children they bring into the

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world. And let's hear more of
the propaganda and fear that has

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been pumped into them.

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And I'm so disappointed by the
response by our authorities to

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this crisis.

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And you can hear the talking
points. This is what they've

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been told.

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So freaked out. It's a matter of
repetition. Yes. It's just a

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goal and over and over again.

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And I'm so disappointed by the
response by our authorities to

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this crisis. And so freaked out
by it. Everything that I've read

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that I've, I've basically last
year, I came to the decision

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that I couldn't bring a child
into that. And I was asking

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around, people that I know, put
it up a little bit out on

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Facebook and realized actually
quite a lot of other people and

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making this decision. Yeah. So
we realized it was really,

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really important to, to tell the
public that there are people out

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there that are so scared about
this, that they feel that they

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can't actually have a family.
And you have come

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to the same conclusion, Allison,
yeah, I

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have I'm, I mean, each day for
me is, is a struggle, I really

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do just, I'm so depressed, I
feel so hopeless over how you

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know, I'm reading just in the
last couple of months, even the

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insect numbers are plummeting so
fast, it now threatens the

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collapse nature, that we're
losing, by the

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way, it gets better. She has
this from Richard Attenborough

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destroying biodiversity so
quickly that that threatens our

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food and the UN have said that
that can lead to the risk of our

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own extinction. David
Attenborough going on TV to say

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the collapse of civilization
could come from this. I know

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that is so hard to really stick
with in taking. But I have done

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that. And that has led to just a
fear that I've never felt

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before. And my decision to
strike

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I

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almost done mostly has come from
not wanting to pass that fear on

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to someone else if we're in this
situation. Now. You know, even

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since my parents had me we've
destroyed 60% of, of life on

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this planet. What would that be
like on my child's life? Well,

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that'd be 10% left. That's not
just to do with being you know,

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a nature wildlife enthusiasts
like I am. That's actually

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that's dangerous as well.

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So life and death,

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life and death. That's right.
This is what this is what this

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is the result. This is this is
what happens now.

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I think it's done on purpose.
You want these people to fight?

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There's a couple of aspects.
First of all, it thins the herd.

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I was gonna say it does
eliminate weakness from the gene

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pool, doesn't it?

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Yeah, you got dummies that
probably shouldn't reproduce. It

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sounds like they have no logical
abilities to just think

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00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:33,660
straight. They're stupid. And
okay, we got rid of them. It's

445
00:27:33,660 --> 00:27:37,920
just but it's, it's sick. Yeah.
Just sick.

446
00:27:39,180 --> 00:27:41,790
I don't know what to make of it.
Other than

447
00:27:41,820 --> 00:27:45,270
I mean, AOC came out and told
people not to have kids.

448
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:48,270
While the new while she she said
she said, it's it's right that

449
00:27:48,270 --> 00:27:51,540
people question that. But this
is a dangerous message. This is

450
00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:54,840
not very smart, unless it's all
part of the plan. And that's why

451
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,210
we need to bring in everyone
from South America.

452
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:04,170
And I have no idea. Maybe it's
possible. If you want to really

453
00:28:04,170 --> 00:28:08,550
be a conspiracy, conspiracy
person, you could make all kinds

454
00:28:08,550 --> 00:28:11,880
of conclusions, but it's not
good for this society. It's not

455
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,340
good for the culture, they'd
have all these people like this

456
00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:17,460
all freaked out. It's not
healthy. It's not good for

457
00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:20,070
anything. It doesn't mean you
can't get a good workforce if

458
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:23,280
you have everyone thinking like
this, but I mean, they're, they

459
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,530
kind of think like, this is
Silicon Valley, and they're

460
00:28:25,530 --> 00:28:26,550
doing okay.

461
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:31,920
And I mean, the BBC, who no
longer allow dissenting voices.

462
00:28:32,370 --> 00:28:36,480
When it comes to climate change
voices. This is the BBC people

463
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,170
take that seriously. The BBC is
to is to be believed by

464
00:28:40,170 --> 00:28:47,400
most. Yes. So to be believed
Corporation, yes. Exactly.

465
00:28:49,380 --> 00:28:51,840
What else is going on in your
neck of the woods today?

466
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:55,770
Well, since we just were taught,
we were to kind of touching on

467
00:28:55,770 --> 00:28:58,350
Trudeau, I want to get a couple
of things out of the way. Okay,

468
00:28:58,470 --> 00:29:01,920
which was they have this thing
on CBC called the red chair.

469
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:06,600
Yeah. And they go to various
parts of the country and they

470
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,010
drop a red share.

471
00:29:08,430 --> 00:29:11,340
This is a this is format I've
seen in in Europe.

472
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:15,479
Yeah, well, that's probably what
they say. We have nothing like

473
00:29:15,479 --> 00:29:18,389
that so far that I've seen in
the United States. There's a

474
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:21,119
couple of they have a lot of
interesting ideas that could be

475
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:24,149
employed, but we don't do it.
But they do. And it was it's

476
00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:27,569
about Trudeau, okay. Because,
you know, we didn't really

477
00:29:27,569 --> 00:29:31,559
discuss this, but Trudeau is, is
in a lot of trouble. And, uh,

478
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:34,379
yeah, it's good to talk about
climate change and to keep

479
00:29:34,949 --> 00:29:36,059
people from thinking about well,

480
00:29:36,060 --> 00:29:39,450
this is the SNC Lavell in that
we talked about on the last show

481
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,680
with the with the operation
$30,000 worth of hookers.

482
00:29:44,850 --> 00:29:48,630
And you get a lot of hookers.
Yeah. So there's a there's an

483
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:53,430
election coming up. And that's
the as you pointed out, and so

484
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:57,240
they put the red chair down on
on the CBC that people talk

485
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,420
about what they think's going
on. So let's play that. The Red

486
00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:03,600
share segment of the CBC but and
this guy cut a lot of it out

487
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,810
because mostly music and they're
dramatizing it. That's about

488
00:30:06,810 --> 00:30:08,610
what people are thinking on the
street.

489
00:30:08,910 --> 00:30:12,090
The Liberals have taken a hit in
the polls since this all began,

490
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:14,880
while the opposition parties
have gained some ground and with

491
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,060
an election now about seven
months away that matters,

492
00:30:18,270 --> 00:30:21,840
especially in ridings like
Peterborough, Kawartha, just

493
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,320
northeast of Toronto. It's
represented now by liberal

494
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,500
cabinet minister Marion Moncef,
but the area has flipped back

495
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:32,220
and forth between liberals and
conservatives for decades. So we

496
00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:36,510
took our red chair there today
to see how voters are feeling

497
00:30:36,510 --> 00:30:36,840
now.

498
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:42,360
So they, they really show this
they have this guy with a red

499
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,560
share, and he puts it,

500
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:46,950
is it a is it a comfy chair? Is
it just a wooden?

501
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,750
comfy chair? It's a it's like an
office? Waiting Room chair.

502
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:57,720
Okay. A cheap one, you know, and
but it's very red. So here we

503
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,480
go. Who's just a few, a few, a
few thoughts from Canada.

504
00:31:00,659 --> 00:31:03,269
What do I think of my Prime
Minister?

505
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:10,950
I would like to see him resign.
So I feel that if he can't get

506
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:14,130
his own house in order, he
doesn't have the confidence of

507
00:31:14,130 --> 00:31:16,950
the country. And he certainly
doesn't have my confidence that

508
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:20,250
he can run the government of
Canada.

509
00:31:20,820 --> 00:31:22,980
I know what a lot of other
people think of him.

510
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,650
Say want him out.

511
00:31:27,150 --> 00:31:29,970
I feel like he's in a tough
spot. But he probably got

512
00:31:29,970 --> 00:31:31,290
himself in that mess.

513
00:31:31,620 --> 00:31:35,850
I think Justin Trudeau is the
man for me in office, and I

514
00:31:35,850 --> 00:31:39,390
would vote for him again
tomorrow. If tomorrow were

515
00:31:39,390 --> 00:31:40,140
Election Day.

516
00:31:41,610 --> 00:31:46,920
I actually don't think that it's
that rageous that the the

517
00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:51,030
government of the day is going
to want to see a company like

518
00:31:51,030 --> 00:31:56,190
SNC Lavalin, stay afloat and
stay alive and employ people in

519
00:31:56,730 --> 00:31:59,370
in Quebec. In the last

520
00:31:59,370 --> 00:32:01,410
election. I voted for Trudeau.

521
00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:07,680
In any upcoming elections, I
will definitely be rethinking

522
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,430
that decision.

523
00:32:09,810 --> 00:32:14,670
It's going to be interesting.
This year, since Bill C 76 was

524
00:32:14,670 --> 00:32:18,240
passed in December, which
requires all online platforms.

525
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,930
It's the Canadian bill to keep a
registry of all political and

526
00:32:21,930 --> 00:32:25,830
partisan advertisements they
directly or indirectly Publish.

527
00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:29,250
And since they haven't been able
to figure that out, they are

528
00:32:29,250 --> 00:32:32,070
going to ban all political ads
before the Canadian election.

529
00:32:33,450 --> 00:32:37,980
Good luck with that, by the way
it's supposed to be Yeah, it's

530
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:41,940
directly or indirectly. So I
mean, does that mean a link from

531
00:32:41,940 --> 00:32:45,780
something as well? So they are
going to remove search results?

532
00:32:45,780 --> 00:32:49,710
I don't see this. I don't see
how this is going to work is

533
00:32:49,710 --> 00:32:49,980
going to be

534
00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:57,480
able to see how the media can
put up with it. Why? Well, you

535
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,590
can't have you can't

536
00:32:58,590 --> 00:33:01,830
ban advertising. Oh, no, no,
just just online not not on

537
00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:05,130
television. Oh, just online. By
the way. I don't know what they

538
00:33:05,130 --> 00:33:07,890
do on television. I have no idea
how it works in Canada with the

539
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,230
with political ads. But online
is definitely important. And

540
00:33:13,770 --> 00:33:18,060
there's an actual bill that
requires platforms to do

541
00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:22,230
something. And so now they're
going to ban all political ads.

542
00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:25,620
Good luck, directly or
indirectly. I think this is

543
00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:30,030
going to be it. This is going to
be messy. They can't do it.

544
00:33:30,810 --> 00:33:33,240
The way you'd go about it if you
wanted to circumvent this of

545
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,750
course with some really high
quality native ads. Right then

546
00:33:36,750 --> 00:33:40,290
you'd have to give some money
would have to change hands.

547
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:49,260
And that's that's always
problematic. damn money. I don't

548
00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:49,830
know. I don't know. I

549
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:58,410
just reported someone. Indeed. I
mean, signing up both Lucy. Does

550
00:33:58,410 --> 00:33:59,220
that sound right?

551
00:33:59,790 --> 00:34:03,720
Well, it's in the report is out
and said the banning at all. I

552
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:11,070
mean, I it kind of brings me to
Joe Rogan did a three and a half

553
00:34:11,070 --> 00:34:16,500
hour podcast with co host Tim
Poole. Remember that guy? The

554
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,240
guy with the with the beanie
hat?

555
00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:20,910
Not really? Yeah, yeah.

556
00:34:20,940 --> 00:34:24,300
We talked about him. And he I
played a clip. I thought it was

557
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,420
no good, but he's actually
pretty damn good. It's just kind

558
00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:34,080
of okay. It's kind of a Shapiro
way of speaking. And so he

559
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:41,100
brought on Jack Dorsey again. So
this is the second time that

560
00:34:41,130 --> 00:34:43,890
Jack Dorsey is on. And of
course, you know, the first time

561
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:47,970
that people had a problem with
the fact that Rogan hadn't

562
00:34:47,970 --> 00:34:50,970
really disclosed that, you know,
the Cash App, which is the big

563
00:34:50,970 --> 00:34:53,790
as an advertiser on the show,
and, of course, that's also

564
00:34:53,790 --> 00:34:57,900
Dorsey with square company. So
people had little couple of

565
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:02,100
issues about that. But we They
felt that no justice had been

566
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:06,180
done to the D platforming issue.
And we played a couple of clips

567
00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:09,960
from it's like, yeah, it's about
behaviors and that's the kind of

568
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,150
stuff they're looking for. And
he was pretty clear that you

569
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:16,950
know, algos really can't do that
much. So now, he came back and

570
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:23,820
he brought along vid Jaya Gaddy
gad Gatti, then that is his.

571
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,990
She's in charge of trust and
safety. That was

572
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:32,370
the one they've had plenty of
clips from on different online

573
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,960
operations bitching about her?

574
00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:39,360
Yes. And she's, she's incredibly
smart. She's very well spoken

575
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,730
has an answer for almost
everything, but and I listened

576
00:35:41,730 --> 00:35:45,690
to the whole to the whole show
and it's entertaining. And, you

577
00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:49,080
know, everyone's really well
prepared. But they all without

578
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,480
coming to the conclusion. They
all kind of figured out that

579
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:57,270
well, there is no way to police
speech based upon behavior

580
00:35:57,510 --> 00:36:00,570
within any context and make it
scale. I mean, at a certain

581
00:36:00,570 --> 00:36:03,330
point, I think Jack even says it
is hard to scale. And they only

582
00:36:03,330 --> 00:36:06,180
have 4000 people working at
Twitter, none of those do this

583
00:36:06,180 --> 00:36:09,420
work to they have all these
contractors who are trying to

584
00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:12,270
understand, you know, the
difference between I'm going to

585
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:15,660
take you out as in I'm
threatening to kill you, or some

586
00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:20,340
guy saying that because they
play War World. World of

587
00:36:20,340 --> 00:36:21,600
Warcraft again, take

588
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,320
her out to dinner. Yeah,
exactly. So it's gonna take you

589
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:25,710
out.

590
00:36:25,710 --> 00:36:29,580
So it's impossible to police
this from a technological

591
00:36:29,580 --> 00:36:34,380
standpoint, the AI doesn't work
the M that ML doesn't work at

592
00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:35,400
all. So Pete

593
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,850
and I just to stop you for a
second. You know, all this talk

594
00:36:38,850 --> 00:36:41,910
about, you know, AI and all the
rest of it when somebody can

595
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:50,910
translate a French wine site and
not keep saying Castle instead

596
00:36:50,910 --> 00:36:53,190
of chateaux. Called,

597
00:36:53,549 --> 00:36:57,569
yeah, there's your context seat.
There's your constant drumbeat.

598
00:36:57,660 --> 00:37:02,370
Yep. And it's like, if you what
if you haven't gotten that far,

599
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,320
with making being able to do
that little Yeah, so bullcrap.

600
00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:11,580
Yes. And what they kind of
figure out without saying it,

601
00:37:11,580 --> 00:37:15,120
although the accusation goes and
there's defense about it is your

602
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,680
policing based upon bias, which
of course is true? Because your

603
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,190
bias is how you read something,
because that's all it is

604
00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:27,270
Twitter, how you read something
within context, and what you

605
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:30,240
actually what your feeling is
about it, and I have the best

606
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,690
example. And so that's the only
the only clip I need to play

607
00:37:33,690 --> 00:37:37,320
from this three and a half hours
was about the deep platforming

608
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,890
of Alex Jones, because of course
that was, is there something you

609
00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:43,050
need to ring the bell about? The

610
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,750
deep lie to you? That was your
forced lipsmack.

611
00:37:46,830 --> 00:37:51,450
Thank you. It's also much later
here. So I have more snackage

612
00:37:51,450 --> 00:37:53,490
available. Now. It's just

613
00:37:53,490 --> 00:37:57,810
telling seven after the third
one, I said, well, but then I

614
00:37:57,810 --> 00:37:58,410
said, Okay.

615
00:37:59,190 --> 00:38:02,610
Okay, thanks. I appreciate it.
Sorry. That's okay. That's a

616
00:38:02,610 --> 00:38:03,090
good point

617
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:08,730
that gone on but you're saying
it's probably one clip out of

618
00:38:08,730 --> 00:38:10,170
the three and a half hours?
Yeah,

619
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:14,100
well, yes. And it's about deep
platforming of, of Alex Jones.

620
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:21,030
And this is a perfect example of
bias. And, to such a degree,

621
00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:25,890
Twitter had such a bias in this
example, as told by the chief

622
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,970
muckety muck of trust and safety
herself, that they don't even

623
00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:34,560
realize they were wrong. In this
particular, in this particular

624
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,190
instance, and and of course, I
can back that up. So again, it's

625
00:38:38,190 --> 00:38:43,860
all about behavior. Remember,
Periscope is also busy is also a

626
00:38:43,860 --> 00:38:47,310
Twitter property. So when
something happens there that

627
00:38:47,310 --> 00:38:52,170
counts towards your, you know,
your platform ability on on

628
00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:58,290
Twitter. And so here is yes. So
here's the clip from the show

629
00:38:58,290 --> 00:39:02,310
where she she explains exactly
what happened. And I'm going to

630
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:07,410
refute this, we did not follow
we we resisted, just being like

631
00:39:07,410 --> 00:39:11,100
a domino with our peers, because
it wasn't consistent with our

632
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:13,290
rules and the contract we've put
in

633
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,680
before our customers. So what
was it that made you ban them?

634
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:19,350
So there were three separate
incidents that came to our

635
00:39:19,350 --> 00:39:23,070
attention after the fact that
were reported to us by by

636
00:39:23,070 --> 00:39:27,120
different users. There was a
video that was uploaded that

637
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,120
showed a child's being violently
thrown to the ground and crying

638
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:34,290
so that was the first one. The
second one was a video that we

639
00:39:34,290 --> 00:39:37,590
viewed as incitement of
violence. I can read it to you

640
00:39:37,590 --> 00:39:41,400
it's a little it's a little bit
of a transcript but but now it's

641
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,220
time to act on the enemy before
they do a false flag. I know

642
00:39:44,220 --> 00:39:46,350
that Justice Department's
crippled a bunch of followers

643
00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:49,140
and cowards but there's groups
there's grants juries, there's

644
00:39:49,140 --> 00:39:51,510
you called for it it's time
politically, economically and

645
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:54,450
judiciously and legally and
criminally to move against these

646
00:39:54,450 --> 00:39:57,600
people. It's got to be done now.
Get together the people you

647
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,700
know, aren't traders aren't
cowards aren't helping their

648
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:02,070
frickin Bats hedging their
fucking bats like all these

649
00:40:02,070 --> 00:40:05,040
other assholes do and let's go
let's do it. So people need to

650
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,620
have their and then there's a
bunch of other stuff but at the

651
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:09,780
end so people need to have their
battle rifles ready and

652
00:40:09,780 --> 00:40:12,090
everything ready at their
bedsides and you've got to be

653
00:40:12,090 --> 00:40:14,550
ready because the media is so
disciplined in their deception.

654
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:15,930
So

655
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,890
this is okay. Before I continue
that clip, let's just go back.

656
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,070
What did we hear? We heard her
read a transcript and then she

657
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:25,440
jumped to the end and said,
there's a whole bunch of other

658
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,370
stuff. And then he said this,
just replay that.

659
00:40:29,759 --> 00:40:32,219
And then there's a bunch of
other stuff but at the end, so

660
00:40:32,219 --> 00:40:34,379
people need to have their battle
rifles ready and everything

661
00:40:34,379 --> 00:40:36,809
ready at their bedsides and
you've got to be ready because

662
00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:38,669
the media is so disciplined in
their deception.

663
00:40:38,850 --> 00:40:43,110
Okay, so is that what Alex Jones
actually said? Did he say you

664
00:40:43,110 --> 00:40:46,890
gotta have your Battle Rifles
ready? Because the media is

665
00:40:46,890 --> 00:40:49,590
coming let's just double check
to make sure I'm not making miss

666
00:40:49,590 --> 00:40:50,160
hearing this

667
00:40:50,190 --> 00:40:52,500
need to have their battle rifles
ready and everything ready at

668
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:55,230
their bedsides and you've got to
be ready because the media is so

669
00:40:55,230 --> 00:40:56,400
disciplined in their deception.

670
00:40:56,700 --> 00:41:02,010
Okay, so She acted like she read
a quote and that she did say at

671
00:41:02,010 --> 00:41:04,380
a certain point, there's a whole
bunch of stuff in the middle

672
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:04,800
people

673
00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:07,740
it's got to be done now. Get
together the people you know,

674
00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:09,960
aren't traders aren't cowards
aren't helping their frickin

675
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,630
bats hedging their fucking bets
like all these other ask wants

676
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:15,750
to do and let's go, let's do it.
So people need to have their and

677
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:18,240
then there's a bunch of other
stuff, but at the end, so people

678
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,550
need to have their battle rifles
ready and everything ready at

679
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:23,130
their bedsides. And you've got
to be ready because the media is

680
00:41:23,130 --> 00:41:24,450
so disciplined in their
deception.

681
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,450
Let's listen to what Jones
actually said. This is the

682
00:41:27,450 --> 00:41:29,490
middle bit that she skipped
over.

683
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,850
But America needs to know that
they've got their little

684
00:41:32,850 --> 00:41:36,390
pathetic commie red teams ready.
And they've got their targets

685
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:39,600
picked out. The sheriffs, the
judges, the police chiefs, the

686
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,410
Patriots, the veterans, the talk
show host everybody. And

687
00:41:43,410 --> 00:41:47,190
everybody's gonna be amazed when
they come. When those cowards

688
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:50,730
come, and it's gonna hit in the
middle of the night. And they're

689
00:41:50,730 --> 00:41:57,360
common. And they're common. And
they're common. They think they

690
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,260
can really take down America. So
people need to have their battle

691
00:42:01,260 --> 00:42:04,500
rifles, everything ready their
bedsides and you got to be

692
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:08,820
ready. Because the media is so
disciplined on their deception.

693
00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:11,460
Antifa attacked all these people
at the White House, beat up

694
00:42:11,460 --> 00:42:14,910
reporters beat up women,
children, no coverage. And

695
00:42:14,910 --> 00:42:18,990
they've got discipline folks.
They've got criminal discipline,

696
00:42:18,990 --> 00:42:20,730
because they're a bunch of
followers.

697
00:42:20,970 --> 00:42:25,200
So she makes it sound like he
she cuts it off at the media,

698
00:42:25,620 --> 00:42:28,230
which he then subsequently goes
on to say that, you know,

699
00:42:28,260 --> 00:42:32,370
they're deceptive. But being
ready is not about the media.

700
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,040
It's for the red teams who are
coming in the middle of the

701
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,950
night, and they're going to come
after everybody. But this is not

702
00:42:37,950 --> 00:42:39,750
a call to violence.

703
00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:42,870
It's a call for self defense.

704
00:42:43,740 --> 00:42:48,540
So this is your saying that this
is a call to violence against

705
00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:48,990
the media.

706
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:51,510
That's what it sounded like to
us at the time. And there have

707
00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:54,090
been a number of incidents of
violence against the media. And

708
00:42:54,090 --> 00:42:56,700
again, I take my responsibility
for what happens on the platform

709
00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:59,790
and how that translates off
platform very seriously. And

710
00:42:59,790 --> 00:43:01,380
that felt like it was an
incitement.

711
00:43:01,980 --> 00:43:07,110
So I call bullshit. There was
not at all what that was about

712
00:43:07,110 --> 00:43:07,260
it.

713
00:43:07,290 --> 00:43:10,410
I mean, it's a
misrepresentation. She's a liar,

714
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,800
she's a liar, she misread the
quote, she skipped the whole

715
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,130
preamble to the so called
offensive part. And she didn't

716
00:43:17,130 --> 00:43:20,970
read the end of it, which kind
of takes it away from going

717
00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:23,970
after killing the media, which
he says incitement to violence

718
00:43:23,970 --> 00:43:26,400
to go after the media. There's
been a number of attacks on the

719
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:31,680
media. Are you kidding me? This
is one it's terrible. And fuck

720
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,100
Twitter. I'm sorry. I mean, if
that's what you are dead in the

721
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:38,670
water, Jack Dorsey. I really
like you. I like the like

722
00:43:38,670 --> 00:43:41,220
Twitter, but you can't police
this, if this is what you're

723
00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:46,140
gonna do. You're gonna go out of
business. And, you know, the

724
00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:47,700
dark web, as they said in the
show.

725
00:43:48,210 --> 00:43:52,470
Well, that moment is the
problem. And if you listen to or

726
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:55,980
I've heard this voice before
this, is that arrogant, no at

727
00:43:55,980 --> 00:44:00,360
all Berkeley type. She's got a
degree I have a woman like that.

728
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:04,410
In a clip coming up. Who is
there's a little school called

729
00:44:04,410 --> 00:44:07,770
Hampshire College, which is
having to close down because

730
00:44:07,770 --> 00:44:13,410
women like this woman. You know,
there's just arrogant little

731
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,780
Torpy woman was if you let's
just keep an eye hopefully this

732
00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:23,100
doesn't go off track by my doing
this but just listen to this is

733
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:27,060
the Hampshire College
shuttering. And and now their

734
00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:30,210
students are protesting the
school can't make any money

735
00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:33,420
because or it's just falling
apart. Whatever is happening

736
00:44:33,420 --> 00:44:36,420
there is a function of the
students themselves. This is

737
00:44:36,420 --> 00:44:39,450
kind of what happened at
Evergreen where they know it all

738
00:44:39,450 --> 00:44:42,690
students instead of coming to
learn or are coming to lecture

739
00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:45,840
and just listen to the woman's
voice to see if you can hear

740
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,280
this kind of this kind of
disgusting tweeting that I mean,

741
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,710
I hear it all right. I'm in the
bay, San Francisco Bay area, so

742
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:55,320
I have to deal with this
constantly.

743
00:44:55,799 --> 00:44:58,559
And in Massachusetts, students
at Hampshire College have been

744
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:02,549
staging a week's long Sitting in
the president's office

745
00:45:02,549 --> 00:45:06,149
protesting what they fear may be
the future shuttering of

746
00:45:06,149 --> 00:45:09,509
Hampshire College. In January,
the president of Hampshire

747
00:45:09,509 --> 00:45:12,299
College announced they would
seek to merge the school with a

748
00:45:12,299 --> 00:45:15,599
strategic partner, before laying
off staff in the following

749
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:19,439
weeks, and announcing it would
not be admitting a new class of

750
00:45:19,439 --> 00:45:22,829
freshmen in the fall. This is a
Hampshire College student with

751
00:45:22,829 --> 00:45:26,129
the group HAMP rise up, which
has been organizing the

752
00:45:26,129 --> 00:45:27,179
protests.

753
00:45:27,690 --> 00:45:31,320
We're fighting for transparency,
better representation and an

754
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,860
educational system that listens
to us and actually serves our

755
00:45:34,860 --> 00:45:38,910
best interests. It's really
tragic, in the fact that schools

756
00:45:38,910 --> 00:45:43,470
like this are closing down so
rapidly. And now that we're

757
00:45:43,470 --> 00:45:46,260
here, in the midst of this
movement, I realized how

758
00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:49,380
important education is and how
essential it is for these places

759
00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:50,040
to exist.

760
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:55,230
It's the same wood cut from the
same word. I agree. I agree.

761
00:45:56,460 --> 00:45:59,310
Yeah, she wants transparency and
she wants to school that listens

762
00:45:59,310 --> 00:46:02,820
to them. Yes. You know, it seems
to me that that's a moment in

763
00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:06,480
time where you want to do the
listening. But these students

764
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,300
and these people, or then this
woman at Twitter, they want to

765
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:10,290
do all the talking

766
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:14,970
thing that Yes. And the thing
is, is that while they're

767
00:46:14,970 --> 00:46:19,320
talking about bias, and you
know, Twitter, saying, well,

768
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,350
we're not This is No, it's all
factual, it's about behavior.

769
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:28,020
She literally showed her bias
there in what she heard, without

770
00:46:28,020 --> 00:46:31,680
even listening to all the
information. And if you listen

771
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,260
to that, the whole show at a
certain point, it's like, well,

772
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:38,130
you know, it's Rogen and pooler,
saying, it's very important that

773
00:46:38,130 --> 00:46:41,250
you let all these voices be
heard. Otherwise, it goes to the

774
00:46:41,250 --> 00:46:46,170
dark web. And I'm like, go dark
web, we need to win with the

775
00:46:46,170 --> 00:46:50,100
dark web. In fact, I can do
this. You know, what is a very

776
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,560
scary little thing that just
came out and came out a couple

777
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,460
of weeks ago. dissenter, have
you seen this dissenter.com It's

778
00:46:56,460 --> 00:47:03,210
a part of gab. So you know, gab,
which is basically the alt right

779
00:47:03,210 --> 00:47:06,210
Twitter, because that's the only
deep, everyone who's been D

780
00:47:06,210 --> 00:47:10,440
platformed. From Twitter goes
over there. So now they have,

781
00:47:10,860 --> 00:47:15,030
it's a browser extension. If you
get it a dissenter.com, we then

782
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:20,760
used to get it with your gab
credentials. And what happens

783
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,170
is, you can create a thread like
a you know, like a, like a

784
00:47:25,170 --> 00:47:30,540
Twitter thread on a gab thread
around any URL, then it's really

785
00:47:30,540 --> 00:47:34,500
taking off. So people are having
entire conversations about one

786
00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:37,890
particular URL, and it comes
comes in just like a social

787
00:47:37,890 --> 00:47:41,730
network, but it can be about
anything. And I think it's a

788
00:47:41,730 --> 00:47:44,640
genius idea, because that's what
a lot of people do. Anyways,

789
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,890
comment on links, and now it's
completely decentralized. And I

790
00:47:49,890 --> 00:47:52,440
think this is the kind of thing
that will blow Twitter out of

791
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,640
the water. It won't take much.
You I agree with your thesis

792
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,630
that these these social networks
won't go away until there's

793
00:48:00,630 --> 00:48:03,630
something else to go to. And I
see something like dissenter

794
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:04,410
working.

795
00:48:06,540 --> 00:48:08,160
Could be I'll check it out.

796
00:48:08,310 --> 00:48:11,940
But this is this interview, I
think was very important and is

797
00:48:11,940 --> 00:48:16,020
the death knell for Twitter.
They are so full of themselves.

798
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,090
And I don't know if if Dorsey is
insane, or if that he really

799
00:48:21,090 --> 00:48:24,780
believes that somehow artificial
intelligence and machine

800
00:48:24,780 --> 00:48:29,340
learning will be able when his
own leader, President Vice

801
00:48:29,340 --> 00:48:33,810
President, whatever she is CEO
of trust and safety. Can't even

802
00:48:33,810 --> 00:48:38,040
get this one. Right. And he
doesn't hear it either. They're

803
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,970
going to train some machine
learning to do this. No way.

804
00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:46,680
Yes, all of its dead in the
whites ridiculous. So it's not

805
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,170
going to take much it's going to
be one of these one of these

806
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,280
weird outfits.

807
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,700
Again, better isn't people
flocked to? Yeah, yeah, same

808
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:56,520
thing could happen to Facebook,
but there's nobody even going

809
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:57,360
after them.

810
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,930
Well, but you know, Facebook is
in so much trouble right now.

811
00:49:00,930 --> 00:49:03,480
People are abandoning it in
droves.

812
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,990
It should be smaller.

813
00:49:08,370 --> 00:49:12,840
You saw Zuckerberg. state of
state of the face bag union.

814
00:49:13,740 --> 00:49:18,210
Yeah. All about privacy. Yes.
We're moving towards a private

815
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:29,580
moving towards a privacy centric
model. Yeah. Sure. It's all

816
00:49:29,580 --> 00:49:32,640
about your privacy. We believe
that your conversations with

817
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,240
people should be private between
yourself Sure. You know,

818
00:49:36,270 --> 00:49:39,420
Facebook doesn't care what
you're saying to someone, they

819
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:42,900
just care that they know who
you're saying it to. So they can

820
00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:45,660
target more people with stuff
you like and they like

821
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,620
it's that's what the that was
the grand scheme from the

822
00:49:49,620 --> 00:49:54,390
beginning. And the funny thing
is I you know, it is somewhat

823
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:59,610
ironic because many
technologists in the early days

824
00:49:59,610 --> 00:50:03,330
of the whole whole revolution,
this saying that late 70s. And

825
00:50:03,330 --> 00:50:07,320
throughout the 80s, were
advocating for this, oh, we want

826
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,620
to only get ads that we're
interested we're interested in

827
00:50:10,620 --> 00:50:14,010
that would be so great. We only
want to read about stuff we're

828
00:50:14,010 --> 00:50:16,380
interested in. That would be so
great.

829
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,770
Yeah, it turns out that's really
bad because that's exactly what

830
00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:23,370
we got. We only got stuff we're
interested in turns out to be

831
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:26,730
crap. Yeah, we got our own
bubbles. Like who wants that?

832
00:50:26,730 --> 00:50:30,060
That's turns out that's not a
really good idea. Forget about

833
00:50:30,060 --> 00:50:35,400
ads, just the content you get
that? Well, you know,

834
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:38,130
what advertising businesses we
should mention, this is always

835
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,030
the advertising business from
day one has always been into

836
00:50:42,030 --> 00:50:46,170
targeting. Yep. And they did and
the better targeting they do

837
00:50:46,170 --> 00:50:48,900
that more they like it because
they can sell, you know,

838
00:50:49,020 --> 00:50:54,690
targeted, a targeted system, a
targeted process for more money.

839
00:50:55,380 --> 00:50:55,710
But what

840
00:50:55,710 --> 00:51:00,360
makes me so sad is that the
actual workings of the internet

841
00:51:00,390 --> 00:51:03,510
is not taught people have no
idea kids are growing up in

842
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:07,410
school. When I remember
evangelizing internet, you know,

843
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,900
how it worked and how these
networks connected to each

844
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:13,110
other. And that Internet
Protocol was really all you need

845
00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:17,190
it and now, you've heard three
and a half hours of me for

846
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:20,040
people talking about if you're
not on Twitter, you're dead. You

847
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,210
don't exist. But this is not
true. No agenda social.com All

848
00:51:24,210 --> 00:51:29,100
of the mastodon type services
people are using them they are

849
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:32,190
moving there there is there will
be a critical mass that will

850
00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:35,400
now even think you need them.
That's the whole thing is

851
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:41,340
bullcrap. Just a website cons in
the pre.com era in the late 90s.

852
00:51:41,550 --> 00:51:45,570
They were talking about it to an
excess. You'd have these guys on

853
00:51:45,570 --> 00:51:48,240
there. Oh, your business you
can't even run a business

854
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:50,280
anymore. Unless you're on
Facebook and you're doing all

855
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,360
this stuff on the internet.
That's nonsense. It was never

856
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,170
true. I still go to a dry
cleaners that is Does that have

857
00:51:58,170 --> 00:52:01,020
any? They have zero footprint on
the internet.

858
00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:04,380
But there's one thing that
here's the here's the main

859
00:52:04,410 --> 00:52:04,830
issue. I

860
00:52:04,830 --> 00:52:06,930
knew that gas stations I go to

861
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:13,050
failing on fame is the problem.
This is Andy Warhols, 15

862
00:52:13,050 --> 00:52:16,860
minutes. It's not about whether
you can have a conversation with

863
00:52:16,860 --> 00:52:20,490
your friends, because you can do
that in many places. All IRC has

864
00:52:20,490 --> 00:52:24,090
been around since day one, you
can end and kids know it. They

865
00:52:24,090 --> 00:52:27,180
know how to use this. No, it's
about fame. It's about your

866
00:52:27,180 --> 00:52:30,030
followers. You know, I was deep
platformed from YouTube

867
00:52:30,030 --> 00:52:40,140
advertising in 2008. I think it
was and so I can never use

868
00:52:40,140 --> 00:52:43,710
AdSense ever in my life. You
know, it's just for boat you do?

869
00:52:44,220 --> 00:52:48,600
Oh, I do remember the big book
show. I made an app. And

870
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,200
actually it was the big book. It
was a big app show first and it

871
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,370
was it was a video that I shot
in portrait mode. And so I would

872
00:52:56,370 --> 00:52:59,250
show how the acts were a lot of
work to do that thing. Yeah, and

873
00:52:59,250 --> 00:53:01,470
it was good it was good for a
while and I was making pretty

874
00:53:01,470 --> 00:53:07,260
good money couple grand a month
because I I'd say hey tap on the

875
00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:11,010
app in the tap on the ad and the
app and you'll know and you'll

876
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:13,440
you'll learn about whatever
great product there is and

877
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:18,120
you'll help this show well that
didn't fly them they D platform

878
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,840
me and they actually took away
my last month's earnings and you

879
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,780
know I protested goes into big
black box never hear anything

880
00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:30,060
again. But I still to this day
get emails from YouTube. And

881
00:53:30,090 --> 00:53:35,100
they address me like, hey,
creator, your fans love this

882
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:37,830
video. You know, it's the MTV
blooper reel that I put up there

883
00:53:37,890 --> 00:53:43,890
you hit 10,000 views. Your fans
love this video. So it's all

884
00:53:43,890 --> 00:53:46,290
about fame. It's all about
having an audience how many

885
00:53:46,290 --> 00:53:50,490
followers how many likes? It's
fame, fame, fame. Isn't fame one

886
00:53:50,490 --> 00:53:52,980
of the Seven Deadly Sins somehow
isn't there something in their

887
00:53:53,010 --> 00:53:58,530
vanity vanity? Vanity would be
vanity. So let's just take

888
00:53:58,530 --> 00:54:02,610
vanity then. And that's what it
is. Everyone loves to be famous

889
00:54:02,610 --> 00:54:02,790
in

890
00:54:03,150 --> 00:54:07,860
Vanity analysis for years. Yeah,
they have your analysis of the

891
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,900
of the of the of the selfie
corsi item and that's what oh,

892
00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:15,180
let me take another picture
myself and then another, another

893
00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:18,720
another. And then you post a
picture. And there are people

894
00:54:19,230 --> 00:54:21,840
and it's always kind of
fascinating me there are. There

895
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:30,510
are some people, men and women
who are are just if you go on

896
00:54:30,510 --> 00:54:32,640
any there are things that they
do online. It's just pictures of

897
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,720
them. Pictures of them doing
anything. It's not like they're

898
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:40,200
in front of the Mount Rushmore.
They're just pictures of them.

899
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:42,600
Yes. Yes. What is that?

900
00:54:42,690 --> 00:54:46,290
That's what it is madness. It's
kids have grown up with fame.

901
00:54:46,410 --> 00:54:53,850
You know the the ultimate job is
fame. It's what it is the famous

902
00:54:54,420 --> 00:54:57,540
Kardashians I think they they
push it over the edge fame, just

903
00:54:57,540 --> 00:54:58,170
the ultimate.

904
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,070
That is not carousel On the head
of John Nam Yeah,

905
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:05,040
yeah, but I think the
Kardashians perfected the selfie

906
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,580
bit. I think they really did.
Certainly would fashion. Yeah.

907
00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:11,670
It's, it's it's the end of
society.

908
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,270
Yeah, I don't know about that.
But it's the end is something

909
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:17,400
Yeah. Anyway, go dark

910
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,530
web. Dark Web. I mean, we're
dark. I mean, would we live with

911
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,890
would we be able to do the show?
Would we be able to have people

912
00:55:25,890 --> 00:55:30,030
listening and supporting the
work without Twitter? I think

913
00:55:30,030 --> 00:55:30,630
so.

914
00:55:31,530 --> 00:55:36,810
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And it's
very, Twitter doesn't really,

915
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,960
really add much to the to the
picture. I'm when I send a

916
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,250
newsletter out. I put a bot
every other one I'll post on

917
00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:47,070
Twitter. I didn't see no didn't
did this one on Twitter. And we

918
00:55:47,070 --> 00:55:49,860
had a very poor turnout. So
Twitter's actually, I don't see

919
00:55:49,860 --> 00:55:53,070
that it does any good. Yeah,
then I do the the Bat Signal

920
00:55:53,790 --> 00:55:58,020
show on the stream can get an
extra 20 3040 people on the

921
00:55:58,020 --> 00:56:02,730
stream, maybe. But I think is
much more than that. No, that

922
00:56:02,730 --> 00:56:05,370
means Witter. And to hear that
oh, let me tell Okay, then I'll

923
00:56:05,490 --> 00:56:09,360
take an aside here and tell my
Twitter story. So when I first

924
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,650
started off on Twitter, I had
10,000 followers. And now I've

925
00:56:13,650 --> 00:56:18,180
got 100,000. And during that
early era, you could post

926
00:56:18,180 --> 00:56:21,330
something, say, oh, you should
check this out. And you would

927
00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:24,360
get the 10,000 followers because
there was active, you know, to

928
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,500
really do stuff, you would get
maybe 1000 people to go click on

929
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:32,820
a link out of the 10. Sounds
about right, right. It's kind of

930
00:56:32,820 --> 00:56:37,380
a direct marketing number. And
when I just had to do because

931
00:56:37,650 --> 00:56:39,870
straight one on one kind of
thing, maybe even more than

932
00:56:39,870 --> 00:56:44,130
1000. Then as it got bigger and
bigger. Now I have 100,000

933
00:56:44,130 --> 00:56:46,860
listeners and I would if I do
the same thing, same kind of

934
00:56:46,860 --> 00:56:51,900
link with with 10 times more
people, the total number of

935
00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:55,740
people that click on the link
six, seven.

936
00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:00,570
And maybe that's pretty bad.
Your people are dead?

937
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:07,080
Well, I think the whole
platforms dead. Fans, that

938
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,480
anybody is doing anything, I
think I've got those same

939
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,670
original people that would have
had 1000 people clicking,

940
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,790
they've lost interest? I don't
know, I don't know, maybe it's a

941
00:57:14,790 --> 00:57:15,210
scam?

942
00:57:15,870 --> 00:57:18,060
It doesn't mean it has your
question. You don't think it has

943
00:57:18,060 --> 00:57:20,310
to do with the fact that people
are tired of old car

944
00:57:20,310 --> 00:57:21,270
advertisements.

945
00:57:23,550 --> 00:57:28,650
Those are the links just Oh,
okay. Just ask is big time,

946
00:57:28,770 --> 00:57:32,100
maybe you've been the platform,
man, maybe your shadow band, who

947
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:35,130
knows? It could be shadow band,
but it's possible. Totally.

948
00:57:35,130 --> 00:57:37,830
Whatever the case, machine
learning is kicking in saying

949
00:57:37,830 --> 00:57:40,560
this guy is posting ads, we're
not getting any money from it.

950
00:57:40,590 --> 00:57:42,030
They don't know that it's an old
ads.

951
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:46,530
Studebaker can have an ad is a
three, it's a three day they're

952
00:57:46,530 --> 00:57:49,710
gonna sell 34 Studebakers out
from under us. Whatever the

953
00:57:49,710 --> 00:57:54,330
point is, is that the the impact
of Twitter has lessened to such

954
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,140
a degree that you can't get
anyone to click on anything

955
00:57:58,140 --> 00:58:00,840
anymore. They don't care. And
you also very low numbers, very

956
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:01,620
low numbers,

957
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,290
I agree with you that the
interface is has become an

958
00:58:04,290 --> 00:58:07,530
issue. People want to see the
information there, they don't

959
00:58:07,530 --> 00:58:10,650
want to click to find anything.
That's that's just that is the

960
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:14,220
extent of laziness that we've
gotten to it's too much to

961
00:58:14,220 --> 00:58:19,710
actually put your thumb on the
link and click it and so. But

962
00:58:19,710 --> 00:58:23,640
also, it's been very quiet about
the Advertising Scam, which

963
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,060
we've been talking about for 10
years. And this is the fake

964
00:58:27,060 --> 00:58:31,980
traffic, all the bots looking
like humans clicking away.

965
00:58:32,460 --> 00:58:36,090
There's been there's been some
lawsuits, there's been people

966
00:58:36,930 --> 00:58:42,090
hauled off to court. There's
some advertisers who may have

967
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,000
pulled back or aren't
advertising on social media

968
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,410
platforms at all, but you really
don't see any stories about it.

969
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,550
It's it's like the it's like the
Nielsen ratings. You know,

970
00:58:53,550 --> 00:58:57,420
before we had true tracking
which tracking has gotten much

971
00:58:57,420 --> 00:59:01,470
better, thank you cable boxes
and Roku and all that so you

972
00:59:01,470 --> 00:59:06,420
know the we have the P plus one
plus three plus five days to see

973
00:59:06,420 --> 00:59:09,930
who watched five days later. I
mean, that stuff is is that's

974
00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:15,330
pretty scientific. But before
that. It's just a sample. And he

975
00:59:15,330 --> 00:59:17,970
asked it to statistically that
should be right. But it wasn't

976
00:59:17,970 --> 00:59:21,480
always far from it. But no one
really should talk about

977
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,870
comScore. The same thing with
the attribution of traffic. We

978
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:27,570
talked about that a couple of
weeks ago, where you just you

979
00:59:27,570 --> 00:59:31,260
just buy a stupid cat video
site. You know, you buy it, you

980
00:59:31,260 --> 00:59:34,920
do a deal with them and say all
their traffic belongs to me. And

981
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,460
then comScore goes Okay, so
we'll count that traffic for

982
00:59:38,460 --> 00:59:43,440
you. And the advertiser goes,
Wow, wow, hoity toity new site.

983
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,380
You've got some great content
with some great numbers. Let me

984
00:59:46,380 --> 00:59:49,830
advertise there. Meanwhile, your
ads running on cat videos. Not

985
00:59:49,830 --> 00:59:53,850
that I'm against cat videos. I'm
a fan of the cat channel. But as

986
00:59:53,850 --> 00:59:57,450
the channel is the best you just
don't hear about this anymore.

987
00:59:59,790 --> 01:00:02,460
So Oh, no, we're writing a big
one

988
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:05,850
to try to keep this scam going
as long as you can. There was a

989
01:00:05,850 --> 01:00:10,410
collapse with the.com collapse
in the 2000 era

990
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,130
when we figured out that hits
doesn't equal visits. That's

991
01:00:14,130 --> 01:00:14,460
what that

992
01:00:14,670 --> 01:00:18,450
was. Yes, it was hits the old
hits. That was nonsense, but but

993
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:25,140
the there was a pullback of
advertising in during that law

994
01:00:25,140 --> 01:00:28,380
era when the.com companies were
going out of business, right.

995
01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:33,180
Everybody pulled out and and
exacerbated the problem. And

996
01:00:33,180 --> 01:00:36,480
even more companies went out of
business and it it took five or

997
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,390
six years to get that shake up
turned around. That's right. It

998
01:00:39,390 --> 01:00:42,060
just wiped everybody out. And
it's gonna happen again.

999
01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:45,690
Well, I for one can't wait to
get rid of some of these stupid

1000
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,960
I mean, it would be nothing will
be better than to see these some

1001
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,720
of these social networks just
collapse under their own weight.

1002
01:00:52,620 --> 01:00:55,230
Because there's a lot of ready
to spring into action.

1003
01:00:57,210 --> 01:01:01,050
Well, we'll see. I think social
net I don't like I'm not a fan

1004
01:01:01,050 --> 01:01:03,960
of social networks in the first
place. I think they exaggerate

1005
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:08,220
problems. I don't just I'm not
seeing the benefit to to society

1006
01:01:08,220 --> 01:01:11,340
or individuals, people waste too
much time on them. This is just

1007
01:01:11,340 --> 01:01:14,670
like the saint with with these
smartphones and people having to

1008
01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:19,650
put cameras on overpasses to
catch people driving, but they

1009
01:01:19,650 --> 01:01:22,800
can't spend one minute away from
the damn phone.

1010
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:29,550
Man. People are laughing at me
with my Nokia Are you but they

1011
01:01:29,550 --> 01:01:32,100
can't believe it here. They're
very connected. While the

1012
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:36,180
iPhones are pretty much out.
People are all buying Samsung's

1013
01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:40,020
because they can't afford the
iPhone anymore. And the Dutch

1014
01:01:40,770 --> 01:01:44,370
price was on introduction
particular ROI. Yeah, yeah,

1015
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,040
they'd be like them. Stingy,

1016
01:01:47,069 --> 01:01:49,229
what about Huawei? Are there any
Huawei phones there? I think

1017
01:01:49,229 --> 01:01:51,569
that'd be Huawei. FL always
dynamite Huawei,

1018
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,500
Huawei is paying paying the
Dutch government to install the

1019
01:01:55,500 --> 01:02:01,680
5g system. They love Huawei
here. Of course they do. Now

1020
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,440
they got no problem with that
same as they don't have, as the

1021
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,410
same with the Dutch won't really
talk about, you know, remember,

1022
01:02:07,590 --> 01:02:10,860
just going back to cloning it
for a second. They are the

1023
01:02:10,890 --> 01:02:14,280
houses are now being built,
built without gas. There's no

1024
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,740
gas. So there's no gas for
heating, no gas for cooking.

1025
01:02:16,740 --> 01:02:20,250
It's all electricity. And that's
all because they cannot bring

1026
01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:24,870
themselves to use Russian gas.
They just can't. Like they're

1027
01:02:24,870 --> 01:02:27,300
just like, well, that's the
enemy. So we can't use that gas.

1028
01:02:27,300 --> 01:02:30,900
So well, don't worry, we're
going to use renewables. People

1029
01:02:30,900 --> 01:02:33,330
are going to get cold in this
country in the future. I

1030
01:02:33,330 --> 01:02:37,650
predicted. You know, what do you
think electricity is made from?

1031
01:02:39,690 --> 01:02:43,140
I mean, isn't the cleanest form
of electricity is outside of

1032
01:02:43,140 --> 01:02:45,030
nuclear? Isn't that natural gas?

1033
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,630
Yeah, yeah. Natural gas is
number one. So

1034
01:02:48,660 --> 01:02:51,270
they can't use this to the
killing themselves?

1035
01:02:51,990 --> 01:02:55,890
Yeah, well, why would some,
that's another thing. Well, I'm

1036
01:02:55,890 --> 01:02:59,190
not you know, this is the this
is the veganism concept where

1037
01:02:59,190 --> 01:03:05,190
you're right. You're eating for
political reasons. I tend to

1038
01:03:05,220 --> 01:03:09,120
eat, you know, because I like,
you know, certain kinds of food.

1039
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,230
I like to cook. I'm not I'm not
taking a political stand with

1040
01:03:13,230 --> 01:03:14,340
what I eat.

1041
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,520
It's always political. No, I
work from a

1042
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,360
political standing of your own
well, being is ridiculous. It's

1043
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,350
crazy. From a different fact
that you get tucked into it,

1044
01:03:25,740 --> 01:03:29,400
which is I mean, I'm less. I
mean, it's funny in some ways,

1045
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:34,920
but the fact you be tucked into
these things, because it's why

1046
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,800
are you politicizing your life
like that? It just doesn't make

1047
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,950
any sense to me. Well, this is
the politics enters your

1048
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:44,010
decision making it. So I'm not
going to do that because that's

1049
01:03:44,010 --> 01:03:47,670
a right winger that someone had
made that cookie, I'm not going

1050
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:48,180
to buy it.

1051
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:54,240
This is why we all wear our
invisible no agenda hats here.

1052
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:59,250
Hold on a second. There you go.
Let's put your hats on because

1053
01:03:59,550 --> 01:04:06,390
you live smarter, more healthy,
your amygdala is small. And with

1054
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:08,700
that, I'd like to thank you for
your courage and say in the

1055
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:11,790
morning to you the man who put
the C in the cat channel, John

1056
01:04:11,790 --> 01:04:12,210
C.

1057
01:04:15,180 --> 01:04:19,440
Morning, Mr. Adam curry and
telegraphy near the water dame's

1058
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:20,220
in the lights out there. We

1059
01:04:20,220 --> 01:04:21,330
got a shortlist today.

1060
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:23,700
We got one guy.

1061
01:04:25,710 --> 01:04:26,730
This is sad.

1062
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,270
It's very sad considering that
the newsletter went out,

1063
01:04:30,420 --> 01:04:34,050
specifically asking for
associate and executive

1064
01:04:34,050 --> 01:04:37,740
producers saying there's going
to be a slow show because we had

1065
01:04:38,070 --> 01:04:41,280
we know half the last show was
about the Austin meet up and all

1066
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,340
the producers we ended up with
and now we get nothing.

1067
01:04:45,180 --> 01:04:48,450
Let me ask you a question. Do
you think that reading all the

1068
01:04:48,450 --> 01:04:52,080
names from the meetup that that
that that hurts and people don't

1069
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:52,860
like the show?

1070
01:04:54,030 --> 01:04:56,970
It always hurts when we have a
lot of people contributing.

1071
01:04:57,450 --> 01:05:00,570
That's why was your show? Yeah,
that's why we do Yeah, those

1072
01:05:00,570 --> 01:05:03,390
guys are doing fine. This is why
you don't you know, brag about

1073
01:05:03,390 --> 01:05:07,290
how much money you make, or
don't make you bitch about it.

1074
01:05:07,470 --> 01:05:12,780
But the point is, is that there
was a, I said specifically that

1075
01:05:12,780 --> 01:05:15,540
this was going to happen. The
writers letter, you're right.

1076
01:05:15,660 --> 01:05:20,190
And not one person, not one
person out of almost 20,000

1077
01:05:20,190 --> 01:05:24,330
people to get that newsletter
took the offer for either

1078
01:05:24,330 --> 01:05:28,950
executive or Associate Executive
Producer, none zero nada. This

1079
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:35,250
guy did his own thing. Me and
he's not because the numbers

1080
01:05:35,250 --> 01:05:37,440
aren't the ones that were
offered. This was added a higher

1081
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,910
number actually. And so we have
one, one loan, I mean, change

1082
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:45,240
the ratios of this thing. So I
can actually read this note,

1083
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:50,460
instead of being a shrunken
thing on the spreadsheet. Pop

1084
01:05:50,460 --> 01:05:56,370
up. This is sort of lupus of the
last bits into coma. He came in

1085
01:05:56,370 --> 01:06:02,130
at $333. And so He's our guy.
He's this executive dog guy he

1086
01:06:02,130 --> 01:06:06,210
could have given $201 He'd be
the executive producer, sir

1087
01:06:06,210 --> 01:06:08,970
Lucas of the law. This is really
pathetic. By the way, I should

1088
01:06:08,970 --> 01:06:12,840
mention to people out there. I
am back from a four week trip to

1089
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,440
visit my wife's family in
Vietnam. Oh, nice. Now that I'm

1090
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,040
back, a little report would be
good. It's a nice country to

1091
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,620
visit. Now that I'm back, I'm
looking forward to catching up

1092
01:06:22,620 --> 01:06:25,620
on the best podcasts and
universe jingle requests, jobs.

1093
01:06:25,620 --> 01:06:26,010
Karma.

1094
01:06:26,070 --> 01:06:28,530
All right, thank you very much,
sir Lucas of the last bits

1095
01:06:28,530 --> 01:06:32,250
welcome home. Job jobs,

1096
01:06:32,370 --> 01:06:33,960
jobs and jobs.

1097
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:38,820
Let's vote for job. Karma.

1098
01:06:40,380 --> 01:06:45,270
Did you hear that digital
artifact? Well, okay, I've been

1099
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,650
the new rig develop this and
that. And it's at first I

1100
01:06:49,650 --> 01:06:50,370
thought it was a

1101
01:06:50,370 --> 01:06:53,310
I've heard stuff, but I've never
been thinking about it just to

1102
01:06:53,310 --> 01:06:53,460
get

1103
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:56,490
it almost. Yeah, almost. Yeah,
it's what it sounds like. It

1104
01:06:56,490 --> 01:07:00,480
sounds like Scott is dragging
for a second. But I figured out

1105
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,120
what it is. I don't know how to
fix it just yet. But for some

1106
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:07,890
reason, I have too much running
through the USB 3.0 hub. And the

1107
01:07:07,890 --> 01:07:13,020
data is being slowed down. But
the problem is the surface six

1108
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:16,980
that I have Surface Pro only has
one USB port. So I can only

1109
01:07:16,980 --> 01:07:20,100
operate with the hub. And I
think just between the drive and

1110
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:23,430
this external monitor and
everything, that it's it's just

1111
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:27,330
not getting the bits through or
something. It's an actual sound

1112
01:07:27,330 --> 01:07:27,720
bandwidth,

1113
01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:31,260
you may be bandwidth limited,
right? You may be stuck at the

1114
01:07:31,740 --> 01:07:32,610
lowest possible

1115
01:07:32,610 --> 01:07:36,810
ceiling as possible. If this is
by the way, an actual glitch.

1116
01:07:37,470 --> 01:07:41,520
That is that is the correct
usage of an audio glitch is what

1117
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,410
you hear. When it does this.

1118
01:07:43,799 --> 01:07:46,019
I'm gonna have to start
listening for it now. Anyway, so

1119
01:07:46,019 --> 01:07:50,639
I want to thanks for Lucas for
helping us produce show 1118

1120
01:07:50,669 --> 01:07:53,729
Yes. And everybody else. Yeah,
you know, what am I going to do?

1121
01:07:53,729 --> 01:07:55,469
I mean, we don't even get
another donation that we get

1122
01:07:55,469 --> 01:07:59,699
down to the $100 level. So that
was a huge disappointment. And

1123
01:08:00,209 --> 01:08:02,789
but we did get one. This wasn't
at least

1124
01:08:02,790 --> 01:08:06,030
one Yeah, at least it's just
before we move on to the

1125
01:08:06,030 --> 01:08:13,140
donation segment, some sad news.
Squirrel mail is effectively

1126
01:08:13,140 --> 01:08:20,790
being killed off. Watch, yes,
this is you know, the cPanel.

1127
01:08:21,930 --> 01:08:26,850
cPanel is like every standard
kind of Unix install, you know

1128
01:08:26,850 --> 01:08:31,260
server has a cPanel. And they've
just end which you know, this is

1129
01:08:31,260 --> 01:08:33,660
back and of course squirrel mail
comes from way back in the days

1130
01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:37,860
when webmail first started, but
now they're removing it from

1131
01:08:37,890 --> 01:08:40,920
cPanel, which really is the
death knell since it will no

1132
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,240
longer be installed. There'll be
no more people jumping on unless

1133
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:50,880
you install it yourself
specifically. And the reason is,

1134
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:50,910
I

1135
01:08:50,940 --> 01:08:53,490
know the guy who invented
squirrel mail, well, he must be

1136
01:08:53,490 --> 01:08:56,580
very sad. I'm going to ask him
what's going on

1137
01:08:56,610 --> 01:09:01,380
within the squirrel males last
update was May 30 2013. With

1138
01:09:01,380 --> 01:09:06,810
their last release on July
12 2011. In that seven years,

1139
01:09:06,810 --> 01:09:12,180
four versions of PHP have
reached end of life. We have

1140
01:09:12,180 --> 01:09:15,150
worked with others in the
community to maintain squirrel

1141
01:09:15,150 --> 01:09:18,690
mail. Unfortunately, recent
security patches have

1142
01:09:18,690 --> 01:09:22,830
significant problems forcing us
into a choice. Exclude the

1143
01:09:22,830 --> 01:09:26,850
security fix and ship squirrel
mail with known security flaws

1144
01:09:27,150 --> 01:09:30,180
or ship a secure version with
known interface issues or

1145
01:09:30,180 --> 01:09:33,720
attempt to fix the problems.
Well, they decided to just give

1146
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:34,410
up on it.

1147
01:09:37,140 --> 01:09:38,430
Oh, that's terrible.

1148
01:09:38,460 --> 01:09:39,450
What are you going to do?

1149
01:09:40,740 --> 01:09:42,090
What am I going to do? Yeah,

1150
01:09:43,350 --> 01:09:44,430
he's going to keep it easy. Oh

1151
01:09:44,430 --> 01:09:45,210
squirrel mail.

1152
01:09:45,540 --> 01:09:47,880
It's not secure. There's
something wrong with it. It's

1153
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:48,870
not good for you. I

1154
01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:53,070
don't notice this. I got plenty
of got systems running I've got

1155
01:09:54,180 --> 01:09:57,990
I've got monitors going on for
both malware and viruses. I'm

1156
01:09:57,990 --> 01:10:00,480
not really concerned once in a
while you know somebody sucker

1157
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:03,300
me into clicking on something
and I get all the alarms go off

1158
01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:06,540
and they say we're throwing this
page away and get back to you

1159
01:10:06,540 --> 01:10:07,590
where you belong.

1160
01:10:07,980 --> 01:10:10,890
Well I think I have to put the
squirrel mail song at the end of

1161
01:10:10,890 --> 01:10:13,770
the show then just as kind of a
tribute

1162
01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:17,880
yeah tribute I find out what's
going on I'll get this I'll get

1163
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:18,120
this

1164
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,420
you'll get the skinny from the
inventor himself very good. Well

1165
01:10:21,420 --> 01:10:27,090
thank you very much to our very
soul a single solitary executive

1166
01:10:27,090 --> 01:10:31,020
producer for this episode of the
Best podcast in the universe

1167
01:10:31,260 --> 01:10:35,220
episode 1118 We do appreciate it
and of course we'll be thanking

1168
01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:39,570
more people $50 and above in the
second half and please support

1169
01:10:39,570 --> 01:10:42,240
the support the show support the
work is a value for value

1170
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,380
network needs you another show
coming up on Sunday also from

1171
01:10:46,710 --> 01:10:49,710
from the runway suite so look
forward to that and you can do

1172
01:10:49,710 --> 01:10:50,040
it at

1173
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:53,610
vorak.org/and A

1174
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,190
Don't tell me you don't know
everything about the platforming

1175
01:10:56,190 --> 01:10:58,560
please go out there and
propagate our formula. Our

1176
01:10:58,560 --> 01:10:59,040
formula

1177
01:10:59,070 --> 01:11:13,950
is this we go out we hit people
in the mouth shut up

1178
01:11:16,170 --> 01:11:20,610
so let's go back to your little
trip. Yeah. Did you get a plug

1179
01:11:20,610 --> 01:11:22,650
in for the show it to the big
network?

1180
01:11:22,650 --> 01:11:24,570
Dude, they didn't even they
didn't even say I was the

1181
01:11:24,570 --> 01:11:28,890
inventor of podcasting. I got
like nothing. I got nothing.

1182
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:35,130
Nothing slips up men. No, no. No
wearing it. No agenda shirt. No.

1183
01:11:36,660 --> 01:11:40,770
Yeah, that's classy. That's real
classy. Now. I'm not going to do

1184
01:11:40,770 --> 01:11:44,730
that. It wasn't about me. It was
about lexan his book I was just

1185
01:11:44,730 --> 01:11:49,890
there to make it entertaining.
But she is the host has promised

1186
01:11:50,130 --> 01:11:54,090
that she's going to interview me
cuz she did a big special around

1187
01:11:54,090 --> 01:11:58,200
the 2016 US elections. She
famously had the kind of like a

1188
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,550
blow job interview with the
Hillary Clinton which a lot of

1189
01:12:02,550 --> 01:12:08,250
people hear like now What the
hell is that? And so she's going

1190
01:12:08,250 --> 01:12:12,120
to do it again for 2020 and she
said can I kind of come and

1191
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:16,410
interview said absolutely. So
she'll come and interview me for

1192
01:12:16,410 --> 01:12:20,850
2020 and then and then I'll just
do it in the studio with all

1193
01:12:20,850 --> 01:12:22,740
kinds of no agenda signs
everywhere

1194
01:12:24,900 --> 01:12:26,250
you mean the clue do

1195
01:12:26,670 --> 01:12:30,510
know by know by the time by 2020
I hopefully I'll be out of the

1196
01:12:30,510 --> 01:12:33,600
clue do and should have my own
studio in Cossack hurry

1197
01:12:33,660 --> 01:12:36,660
signage up Yeah. I just said
wallpaper

1198
01:12:36,780 --> 01:12:44,160
signage. I need to I need to
skirt for the table. Yeah,

1199
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:50,310
skirts. I'm sure that our
producers will whip something up

1200
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:52,620
by the time it's about we gotta
we got a little little ways to

1201
01:12:52,620 --> 01:12:56,250
go. And by the way, we should
probably do a proper meet up in

1202
01:12:56,250 --> 01:12:59,970
Amsterdam before then. I know
one of these trips I've just got

1203
01:12:59,970 --> 01:13:02,640
a pre produce it and get it done
because people are antsy. We got

1204
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,830
a lot of nights here. I didn't
realize we I think we probably

1205
01:13:04,830 --> 01:13:08,970
have. Eric was telling me over
100 nights in Holland sounds

1206
01:13:08,970 --> 01:13:13,410
like a lot. And didn't actually
What does whenever we discuss no

1207
01:13:13,410 --> 01:13:17,340
agenda with the radio guys. And
this, they had a party, a book

1208
01:13:17,340 --> 01:13:22,140
party after the TV show. I must
have been about 100 people all

1209
01:13:22,140 --> 01:13:26,580
between 60 and 90 years old. And
because these guys have all been

1210
01:13:26,580 --> 01:13:30,420
on the pirate ships. Sure.
They're old and all you know

1211
01:13:30,420 --> 01:13:33,540
what they all have. They all got
like a young buck. Yes. They all

1212
01:13:33,540 --> 01:13:37,980
have their own museum. Hey, man
have a flier for Yeah, they all

1213
01:13:37,980 --> 01:13:41,910
got their little broadcast
museum, you know. They all have

1214
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:44,970
rented some little space. Like,
I got a rock and roll Museum.

1215
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,870
Okay. Hey, man, come visit my
museum have a T shirt for my

1216
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:52,290
museum. Okay, thanks. I didn't
know how we came up with that.

1217
01:13:54,450 --> 01:14:00,030
Anyway, it is it is true. It's
true. Okay, let's see, what else

1218
01:14:00,030 --> 01:14:05,250
do we have going on? Well, might
as well just play the liar of

1219
01:14:05,250 --> 01:14:08,310
the week. And I think this
somehow has to do with Michael

1220
01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:11,490
Jackson. You know, it's all kind
of coming at the same time this

1221
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,880
our Kelly interview on CBS. I
don't know if you saw Oh, yeah.

1222
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,680
You know, I watched it. It was
like, guys all worked out,

1223
01:14:19,710 --> 01:14:23,040
worked up and yelling at Gail
and I thought this thing was

1224
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,370
just too much show business and
not enough substance. But

1225
01:14:26,370 --> 01:14:29,460
he's, well, the only thing I
cared about was him freaking

1226
01:14:29,460 --> 01:14:29,850
out.

1227
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,210
But what, that's what the only
part that was good.

1228
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:39,180
But if you're telling the truth,
don't you say this is a lie? I

1229
01:14:39,180 --> 01:14:45,270
didn't do this. Or do you say or
why would I do that? Isn't that

1230
01:14:45,300 --> 01:14:47,400
isn't that the tale of all
tells?

1231
01:14:48,810 --> 01:14:50,220
It's definitely a tell.

1232
01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:54,420
So I think the point you're
making is and correct me if I'm

1233
01:14:54,420 --> 01:14:57,780
wrong, that you have never held
anybody against their will.

1234
01:14:57,810 --> 01:15:01,800
I don't need to take my word. I
will I'm stupid with never held

1235
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:02,160
an arm

1236
01:15:02,190 --> 01:15:05,310
right off the bat. He doesn't
even say no. We

1237
01:15:05,340 --> 01:15:11,970
all have been through in my way,
way past to hold somebody let

1238
01:15:11,970 --> 01:15:17,070
alone four or five 650 You said?
What? How stupid would I be to

1239
01:15:17,070 --> 01:15:21,870
do that? I didn't say you guys
and it is this camera on me.

1240
01:15:21,870 --> 01:15:27,420
Yes, that's stupid. Use your
common sense. Don't forget the

1241
01:15:27,420 --> 01:15:30,810
past forget how you feel about
me. Hate me if you want to love

1242
01:15:30,810 --> 01:15:34,110
me if you want to just use your
common sense. How stupid would

1243
01:15:34,110 --> 01:15:39,540
it be for me? Talk with my crazy
passing what I've been through.

1244
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,620
Oh, right now I just think I
need to be a monster and hold

1245
01:15:43,620 --> 01:15:47,220
girls against a wheel change
them up in my basement. And and

1246
01:15:47,220 --> 01:15:50,190
don't let them eat and don't let
them out unless they need to.

1247
01:15:50,490 --> 01:15:51,030
Say what?

1248
01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:55,200
Too much detail. Exactly,

1249
01:15:55,290 --> 01:15:57,630
exactly. And there's more detail

1250
01:15:58,170 --> 01:16:02,310
down the street from the uncle.
So I'm happy y'all quit plan.

1251
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:17,040
Quit plan. Didn't do this stuff.
Is a fight for my life ROBERT

1252
01:16:21,690 --> 01:16:22,560
This is great.

1253
01:16:25,770 --> 01:16:29,400
This is not about music. I'm
trying to have a relationship

1254
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,460
with my kids. And I can't do it.
Oh.

1255
01:16:36,270 --> 01:16:38,610
You don't want to believe it? At
this point.

1256
01:16:38,610 --> 01:16:41,970
We briefly pause the interview
to give Kelly a moment for his

1257
01:16:41,970 --> 01:16:43,680
publicist help calm him down.

1258
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:49,740
I hope this camera keep going
now we're gonna doesn't even

1259
01:16:49,740 --> 01:16:55,230
make sense. Why would I hold all
these women? Their mothers and

1260
01:16:55,230 --> 01:16:58,770
fathers told me we're gonna
destroy your career.

1261
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,870
I gotta tell you these
interviews like with Jesse

1262
01:17:00,870 --> 01:17:04,290
Smollett. And now we get Jesse
Smollett and I get our Kelly's

1263
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,940
good this is entertaining. Isn't
it entertaining? It's like this

1264
01:17:08,940 --> 01:17:15,300
new format Yeah, take down the
big celeb Great. Yeah. Good old

1265
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:18,960
days you gotta find his Psycho
celebs that makes it work. Well,

1266
01:17:19,290 --> 01:17:22,680
I think certainly with today's
as we were discussing earlier

1267
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,500
today's social media which so
you're gonna see more of these

1268
01:17:25,530 --> 01:17:30,690
these people these celebrities
who fry is the bright short

1269
01:17:30,690 --> 01:17:34,470
circuit this short circuiting is
what's happening in our Kelly,

1270
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:39,600
he's been hiding out with his
whatever his harem alleged. I

1271
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,520
don't know. Maybe he's not
paying attention to what's going

1272
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:46,230
on. Maybe he's all over it. But
this is this is a short

1273
01:17:46,230 --> 01:17:46,770
circuiting.

1274
01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:48,930
Man. Well,

1275
01:17:48,990 --> 01:17:51,270
it's also kind of like you go on
Gale show. It's like you know,

1276
01:17:51,330 --> 01:17:56,940
it's like you in the stockade
public hanging. It's the modern

1277
01:17:56,940 --> 01:17:58,800
day version. Yeah, modern day
version.

1278
01:18:01,620 --> 01:18:04,200
was so they're going after Trump
in a funny new way. This is a

1279
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:10,920
new one I have to add to the
list. Oh, there's actually a

1280
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,800
couple new things that are being
dead. In fact, they come up in

1281
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,650
the conversation here. But it
has to be added to the list,

1282
01:18:16,650 --> 01:18:20,460
which is that and this is a
rewrite. I've seen this before

1283
01:18:20,460 --> 01:18:24,510
this was done. And it's going to
lead to another we've been

1284
01:18:24,510 --> 01:18:27,810
talked about in the newsletter.
It's going to lead to another

1285
01:18:28,650 --> 01:18:33,090
round of nonsense. This one is
this latest one, which began

1286
01:18:33,090 --> 01:18:37,470
with I forgot who who started it
was at Troy was in the intercept

1287
01:18:37,470 --> 01:18:44,130
some some British Middle
Easterner. Right, right. Are

1288
01:18:44,130 --> 01:18:48,330
there claims that Trump you
know, what? What proof? Do we

1289
01:18:48,330 --> 01:18:51,330
have that if he gets voted out
that he's going to leave?

1290
01:18:51,930 --> 01:18:55,290
Oh, yes. You put this in the
newsletter. I think you nailed

1291
01:18:55,290 --> 01:18:57,240
it with that. You might want to
reiterate it literally because

1292
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:57,840
that was good.

1293
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,490
Yeah, well, he just apparently
Trump's not gonna want to quit.

1294
01:19:02,670 --> 01:19:04,950
So if he gets impeached, he's
not going to and he's going to

1295
01:19:04,980 --> 01:19:07,800
call to arms for everybody to do
rebel.

1296
01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:11,220
Yes. And, and right after he
starts the Trump news network,

1297
01:19:11,220 --> 01:19:15,570
then he'll he'll also write a
law, the executive order that he

1298
01:19:15,570 --> 01:19:16,770
can have a third term.

1299
01:19:18,180 --> 01:19:21,180
Yeah, that would be the next in
there in the this is what

1300
01:19:21,180 --> 01:19:23,640
happened when I first saw this.

1301
01:19:23,730 --> 01:19:28,530
Obama had that to the right was
saying about my wish. Yeah,

1302
01:19:28,650 --> 01:19:31,770
George Bush was going to run for
the third term. And Obama is

1303
01:19:31,770 --> 01:19:36,600
going to run for a third term.
Clinton, maybe maybe not I don't

1304
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,780
remember the Clinton one.
Exactly. But it's all bull crap.

1305
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:43,320
So then so they get start
picking up on it. So yeah, so

1306
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,560
not one. You know, this becomes
like a theme now. So we have

1307
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,440
this theme that Trump's not
gonna quit. So let's move it

1308
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:53,250
around. The network's a little
bit and let's put it on Chris

1309
01:19:53,250 --> 01:19:56,460
Matthews show. Deutsch.

1310
01:19:57,180 --> 01:20:01,020
Oh, Donny douche. Donny Deutsch
the fool Former advertising

1311
01:20:01,020 --> 01:20:02,490
executive I'm correct. That's
the same

1312
01:20:02,490 --> 01:20:05,760
guy, right? Yeah, yeah, that
guy. Yeah. Well, how

1313
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,910
did he ever get into this news
business? Or what does it what

1314
01:20:08,910 --> 01:20:10,260
standing does he have?

1315
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,410
He has no standards, but the
bishop that he'll come on and do

1316
01:20:13,410 --> 01:20:14,460
stuff like this.

1317
01:20:14,610 --> 01:20:17,730
Let me get back to Ghana. And
you know, Trump over the years,

1318
01:20:17,730 --> 01:20:20,250
you're not as buddy or anything,
but you know him. What's his

1319
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,500
endgame? What's his
Gotterdammerung? What is how

1320
01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:25,050
does he end up in the bunker?
What will he do run for

1321
01:20:25,050 --> 01:20:27,570
reelection to protect him from
statute limitations hold on to

1322
01:20:27,570 --> 01:20:30,960
the pardon power, just trying to
get reelected at all costs, to

1323
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,390
keep himself out of prison or
what what's his endgame? Take it

1324
01:20:33,390 --> 01:20:36,750
one step further. And Michael
Cohen's final warning in his

1325
01:20:36,750 --> 01:20:40,590
testimony. And I've thought this
and said this before Donald

1326
01:20:40,590 --> 01:20:43,680
Trump, we will not have a
peaceful transition Donald

1327
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,040
Trump, I believe, whether he's
going to be impeached, whether

1328
01:20:47,700 --> 01:20:50,640
they're disqualifying him for
running for office, even if he

1329
01:20:50,670 --> 01:20:53,490
Oh, hold on that. Whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, before we continue

1330
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,000
disqualifying for running for
office?

1331
01:20:57,750 --> 01:21:01,320
I have no idea what that means.
That's new. I heard it same way.

1332
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:05,010
You did. It was it was a
showstopper. Ha. How does that

1333
01:21:05,010 --> 01:21:08,490
work? How do you disqualify him
from running for office?

1334
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,070
Maybe he lied about his age,
he's not old enough.

1335
01:21:12,420 --> 01:21:17,190
disqualifying for running for
office? Even if he gets elected

1336
01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:20,100
out? He will tell his people to
take this feature. I know that

1337
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:23,820
sounds extreme. That's who this
man is. He there's 30% In this

1338
01:21:23,820 --> 01:21:26,670
America, of this country that he
believes he owns. And he

1339
01:21:26,670 --> 01:21:27,690
actually does own them.

1340
01:21:27,990 --> 01:21:30,750
What did he say? He flubbed
something 30% of this America,

1341
01:21:30,750 --> 01:21:32,280
what is this? 30% on this
miracle?

1342
01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:35,400
Stop. Yeah, this is the other
thing that's gotta go on the

1343
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,030
list and the Trump rotation?
Trump rotation.com. Everybody.

1344
01:21:39,870 --> 01:21:44,730
Yeah, Trump rotation.com. I have
heard this so many times, all

1345
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,730
out of the blue along with this
original, this idea that he's

1346
01:21:47,730 --> 01:21:49,830
not going to leave if he's voted
out?

1347
01:21:50,010 --> 01:21:52,530
No, no, actually, no, no. He
said, No, he said something

1348
01:21:52,530 --> 01:21:55,650
else. If he's elected out, which
is even better.

1349
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:59,610
I think that was just elected
out. We're gonna have an

1350
01:21:59,610 --> 01:22:04,710
election. fumbling for trying to
sound election about who we

1351
01:22:04,710 --> 01:22:12,060
don't want out. You. Anyway, so.
So this 30% thing, it keeps

1352
01:22:12,060 --> 01:22:16,740
coming up. What is this? There's
30% of the public likes Trump.

1353
01:22:16,740 --> 01:22:21,390
And that's it. And this really
goes back to Brooks on the old

1354
01:22:21,390 --> 01:22:27,150
PBS NewsHour, who always at the
beginning of the Trump, Ron was

1355
01:22:27,180 --> 01:22:32,520
always seeing a 30% ceiling.
This is some liberal progressive

1356
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:39,150
notion that there's this 30% of
these 30% of the public dummies

1357
01:22:39,150 --> 01:22:42,450
that are going to support Trump
at whatever, whatever, no matter

1358
01:22:42,450 --> 01:22:46,890
what happens, and they keep
using this 30% as though you

1359
01:22:46,890 --> 01:22:51,720
have 70% leeway to vote somebody
else in It's bull crap. But

1360
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:52,080
anyway,

1361
01:22:52,110 --> 01:22:56,100
also, you got to be worried when
people start talking numbers

1362
01:22:56,100 --> 01:23:00,120
like that, like 30% is their
list. You can get on to be a

1363
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,770
part of this 30%

1364
01:23:02,490 --> 01:23:07,440
Nobody gets elected out. He will
tell his people to take the

1365
01:23:07,440 --> 01:23:10,740
streets. I know that sounds
extreme. That's who this man is.

1366
01:23:10,740 --> 01:23:13,560
He there's 30% on this America,
of this country that he believes

1367
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:17,250
he owns. And he actually does
own them. The normal things we

1368
01:23:17,250 --> 01:23:19,920
see the peaceful transition. I
believe Donald Trump is not

1369
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,220
beyond starting a civil war.
Chris. I've known this man for

1370
01:23:23,220 --> 01:23:26,910
20 years. And if you watch every
one of his plays, he tees off

1371
01:23:26,910 --> 01:23:29,970
what he's going to do. I think
we are really headed for a very

1372
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,850
ugly time in American history.
I'm sad to say that well you

1373
01:23:32,850 --> 01:23:35,010
know, I'm sorry. Thank you so
much US Congressman Jackie

1374
01:23:35,010 --> 01:23:36,510
Speier as always thank you very
much.

1375
01:23:36,870 --> 01:23:40,290
Got Shut up pretty quick. Sad as
that is thank you so much.

1376
01:23:40,290 --> 01:23:41,160
Goodbye.

1377
01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:45,180
Now you had a heartbreak was a
really rousting him he was glad

1378
01:23:45,180 --> 01:23:47,790
to hear this stuff there. I
mean, if you listen to the whole

1379
01:23:47,790 --> 01:23:50,550
beginning of that we're Chris is
going on about well, if he

1380
01:23:50,550 --> 01:23:53,760
doesn't go to jail, he's always
talking about jail. Jail. Yeah,

1381
01:23:53,820 --> 01:23:55,230
okay. Well, yeah, no, there's

1382
01:23:55,500 --> 01:23:58,230
a diluted I've heard a lot of
this like, you know, he'll be

1383
01:23:58,260 --> 01:24:00,930
he'll be ineligible because
there'll be in jail and I was

1384
01:24:00,930 --> 01:24:08,040
one of those. Meanwhile, there's
an interesting bill to fix our

1385
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:13,770
broken election system. It's HR
one. This right the first from

1386
01:24:13,770 --> 01:24:18,600
the house. You may also call
this the for the people act of

1387
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:28,230
2019. And yes, the idea is we
want with specifically when it

1388
01:24:28,230 --> 01:24:33,690
comes to campaign finance, we
want to level the playing field.

1389
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:42,030
And one of our producers, sir
How now brown cow was at the

1390
01:24:42,060 --> 01:24:46,080
committee hearing so I'm not
sure what Sir How now brown cow

1391
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,840
does but I don't think you can
just be at the committee

1392
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,860
hearing. As a public member I
may be wrong but he was there.

1393
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,050
And here's what you can while he
was there, then for three ice as

1394
01:24:58,050 --> 01:25:01,200
I was just spent three hours in
the rules committee hearing on

1395
01:25:01,260 --> 01:25:05,730
HR one the for the people act.
After hearing everything. I'm

1396
01:25:05,730 --> 01:25:09,090
convinced media elements must
have had a hand in this bill and

1397
01:25:09,090 --> 01:25:12,930
likely paid outside groups that
wrote it. At the core of the

1398
01:25:12,930 --> 01:25:18,360
bill is a six to one match on
any donation under $200. In

1399
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:23,430
other words, if you donate $199
to a candidate, the federal

1400
01:25:23,430 --> 01:25:32,310
government will match that
donation with $1,194. You with

1401
01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:36,870
me? Yeah. Yeah. So because in
this bill, yes, it's in this

1402
01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:39,540
bill. And I'll just say it
again, and then I'll tell you

1403
01:25:39,540 --> 01:25:42,780
what's wrong with it, according
to our producer. So get a six to

1404
01:25:42,780 --> 01:25:46,710
one match on any donation under
$200. We've heard about this

1405
01:25:46,710 --> 01:25:49,590
before the end of the year, we
should even that up and make it

1406
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:52,380
more fair, so everyone can get
some money, not just the rich

1407
01:25:52,380 --> 01:25:57,360
people. So again, if you donate
under $200 $109 to any

1408
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,180
candidate, the federal
government will match the

1409
01:26:00,180 --> 01:26:08,130
donation with $1,194. Here's the
kicker. It's a per donation

1410
01:26:08,130 --> 01:26:14,790
match. So if you donate five
times, you split your $1,000

1411
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:19,800
into five separate $199
donations, that will grant the

1412
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:27,330
candidate a total of $5,970. So
it really it turns a million

1413
01:26:27,330 --> 01:26:33,330
bucks, which could be from just
1000 people into 5 million. Now,

1414
01:26:33,330 --> 01:26:33,810
sir, How

1415
01:26:33,810 --> 01:26:36,180
now brown Kosis scam waiting to
happen?

1416
01:26:36,210 --> 01:26:39,300
Well, sir, How now brown cow. I
think it was an invisible no

1417
01:26:39,300 --> 01:26:41,910
agenda hat on there. And the
committee meeting he says, I

1418
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:45,270
think this is benefiting the
people who sell ads.

1419
01:26:46,380 --> 01:26:47,130
Course.

1420
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:49,410
Someone figured it

1421
01:26:49,410 --> 01:26:52,290
out immediately. Not gonna
mention this in a million years.

1422
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:57,510
How can we get it factor six on
our ad buys? Well, there you go

1423
01:26:57,510 --> 01:27:03,900
people. That is why it still has
to pass. It's got a lot. It's

1424
01:27:03,900 --> 01:27:06,930
got road to go. But I can see I
can see this getting somewhere.

1425
01:27:06,990 --> 01:27:10,320
Let's see if people figure out
this sixth time match scam or

1426
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,240
big scam. Big scam. You

1427
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,430
won't read about that in the New
York Times because it's like

1428
01:27:14,430 --> 01:27:16,800
money in their pockets. They're
not going to talk about it.

1429
01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:17,250
Yeah, you

1430
01:27:17,250 --> 01:27:21,360
probably won't hear and unseen
by the way. CNN International.

1431
01:27:21,540 --> 01:27:25,890
Wow, that is far superior to the
crap we have to watch in the US.

1432
01:27:26,250 --> 01:27:29,670
It truly is. Yeah, it's much
more do you have GFC and an

1433
01:27:29,670 --> 01:27:32,040
international on your system? Do
you? Are you able to get down?

1434
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:35,250
I used to but I don't anymore.
It's really good.

1435
01:27:35,940 --> 01:27:41,130
Yeah. At least at least it's
diverse. It's not just the same

1436
01:27:42,690 --> 01:27:47,250
plan tank. Turns out there's
other things going on in the

1437
01:27:47,250 --> 01:27:51,630
world such as the Geneva Auto
Show, or do you want to stick

1438
01:27:51,630 --> 01:27:52,140
with Trump?

1439
01:27:53,310 --> 01:27:56,430
No, you can go back to Trump. I
mean, I just wanted to add that

1440
01:27:56,430 --> 01:28:00,360
one piece but another Trump
stuff. But what about the auto

1441
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:00,690
show?

1442
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:06,990
Well, the Geneva Auto Show is on
and they have two clips. The day

1443
01:28:06,990 --> 01:28:09,780
I guess this is kind of an
interesting angle as the

1444
01:28:09,780 --> 01:28:12,300
reporting has been about you
know, it's always the trend when

1445
01:28:12,300 --> 01:28:14,460
you do a big Auto Show. I
actually know a guy who is at

1446
01:28:14,460 --> 01:28:19,170
the Auto Show. He has the flying
car. It's the I forget what it's

1447
01:28:19,170 --> 01:28:26,040
called. It's a It's basically an
auto gyro and a motorcycle.

1448
01:28:28,230 --> 01:28:30,780
slapped together and you're all
that flying car but

1449
01:28:30,780 --> 01:28:33,900
okay. Yeah, it is. It is a
flying car. When you see it.

1450
01:28:33,900 --> 01:28:35,100
It's the V pal I

1451
01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:37,770
think is what it's called. Or
the PAL V and I put the kids in

1452
01:28:37,770 --> 01:28:38,580
the back seat.

1453
01:28:38,820 --> 01:28:41,670
Yeah, you have a back seat. It's
the it's the it's the Powell v.

1454
01:28:42,420 --> 01:28:47,940
And it is you can look at it,
pal dash v.com And they even

1455
01:28:47,940 --> 01:28:50,310
bill it as the world's first
flying car. It actually works.

1456
01:28:50,310 --> 01:28:53,550
It's an auto gyro that you can
drive around. And it's you know,

1457
01:28:53,550 --> 01:28:58,080
it folds up all of its, its its
blades and everything. And it's

1458
01:28:58,140 --> 01:29:02,130
relatively inexpensive and it's
certified it's good to go. So

1459
01:29:02,130 --> 01:29:05,430
it's already flying. But no
mention of any flying cars

1460
01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:09,420
whatsoever. No. But first, let's
talk about Brexit, we've had

1461
01:29:09,420 --> 01:29:13,560
to assume a no deal Brexit we've
prepared for a no deal Brexit

1462
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:19,050
and we can cope with a no deal
Brexit on tariffs into the EU.

1463
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,490
Our assumption is that we'll
have to pass the net price on to

1464
01:29:23,490 --> 01:29:27,540
the customer. But obviously the
pound will crash. So net net,

1465
01:29:27,570 --> 01:29:30,030
hopefully not so much. We might
lose a little bit of market

1466
01:29:30,030 --> 01:29:32,880
share in the EU will pick that
up more than pick that up in the

1467
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,160
United Kingdom because our
competitors are coming from

1468
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,010
Europe and will have tariffs in
the opposite direction. So

1469
01:29:38,010 --> 01:29:40,980
terrorists are not worried about
that yet worry has always been

1470
01:29:40,980 --> 01:29:43,770
one of supply chain getting the
parts through customs. And

1471
01:29:43,770 --> 01:29:46,830
obviously, my board of directors
has signed off a 30 million

1472
01:29:46,830 --> 01:29:50,550
pound contingency we were using
as we need to we've increased

1473
01:29:50,550 --> 01:29:53,340
the number of stillages We've
increased the inventory. We're

1474
01:29:53,340 --> 01:29:56,310
ready and we have to be ready
because I'm building cars now

1475
01:29:56,310 --> 01:30:00,060
that will leave the factory in
April and May post whatever Have

1476
01:30:00,060 --> 01:30:03,450
a Brexit looks like so you know
that's all I can say really is

1477
01:30:03,450 --> 01:30:04,680
we're ready I thought

1478
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,920
that was very encouraging. Now
these days they seem to have

1479
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,040
their shit together and it's
okay you know we're ready for it

1480
01:30:11,070 --> 01:30:13,500
we're not too worried about the
tariffs yeah some custom stuff

1481
01:30:13,500 --> 01:30:17,220
we'll have to deal with because
a lot of fear mongering for the

1482
01:30:17,220 --> 01:30:23,040
amount of ease at this I think
this was the BMW guy but the big

1483
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:27,900
winner this year at the show you
can already guess what it is. I

1484
01:30:27,900 --> 01:30:31,770
hope but well what what category
what category of vehicle is the

1485
01:30:31,770 --> 01:30:32,550
star?

1486
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,670
Oh, it's gotta be something to
do with climate change battery

1487
01:30:35,670 --> 01:30:39,570
cars, battery cars, everyone's
got a battery car as an

1488
01:30:39,570 --> 01:30:44,220
atmosphere of change here at the
Geneva Motor Show 2019 as brands

1489
01:30:44,220 --> 01:30:48,630
both old and new shift away from
fossil fuels and towards an

1490
01:30:48,660 --> 01:30:52,830
electrified future. The electric
pulse races from the fastest to

1491
01:30:52,830 --> 01:30:55,650
the slowest cars one of the
fastest is from new brand

1492
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,660
automobili Pininfarina which has

1493
01:30:57,660 --> 01:31:01,650
nearly 2000 horsepower. The
thing closest to that I've

1494
01:31:01,650 --> 01:31:04,920
driven this probably in f1 car
was nearly 900 horsepower and

1495
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:06,930
yeah, this car will have more
than double.

1496
01:31:07,530 --> 01:31:10,620
And a Citroen celebrates its
centenary. It's showing off the

1497
01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:13,410
slowest car at the show the me
one concept.

1498
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:15,900
This is pretty cool. It looks
like a cardboard box with

1499
01:31:15,900 --> 01:31:16,410
wheels.

1500
01:31:16,440 --> 01:31:19,200
You can call it a vehicle we
call it an object of force. It's

1501
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:20,010
not a vehicle

1502
01:31:20,130 --> 01:31:24,420
we call it an object. It's
really really you should be

1503
01:31:24,420 --> 01:31:26,880
against the law to call this
thing a vehicle the slowest

1504
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,220
car at the show the me one
concept

1505
01:31:29,250 --> 01:31:32,460
we don't call it a vehicle we
call it an object for urban

1506
01:31:32,460 --> 01:31:36,150
areas. So big cities, it's
anybody can drive it you don't

1507
01:31:36,150 --> 01:31:40,050
need a driving license, it's
only 2.5 meters long. Maximum

1508
01:31:40,050 --> 01:31:44,460
speed 45 kilometres autonomy 100
kilometres. So it's obviously a

1509
01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:46,680
concept but we're just testing
to see where it's going to go.

1510
01:31:47,070 --> 01:31:50,790
There are pure electric cars
here but also plenty of hybrid

1511
01:31:50,820 --> 01:31:54,000
electric that's to say they have
a petrol engine on board like

1512
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:58,710
this BMW 530 E, but also an
electric motor, and you plug it

1513
01:31:58,710 --> 01:31:59,580
in right there.

1514
01:31:59,730 --> 01:32:02,370
The use case of plug in hybrids
is actually very suitable to

1515
01:32:02,370 --> 01:32:05,550
Europe. People who want to drive
shorter distances for example

1516
01:32:05,550 --> 01:32:08,430
with zero local emissions they
can do that in full electric

1517
01:32:08,430 --> 01:32:12,270
mode for example in cities and
then have the ease of mind to be

1518
01:32:12,270 --> 01:32:15,030
able to do longer distances
without having to recharge

1519
01:32:15,090 --> 01:32:17,130
supported by petrol engines.

1520
01:32:17,490 --> 01:32:20,640
Driving the electrical surge
across the car industry are the

1521
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,940
tough new EU emission standards
coming into force next year.

1522
01:32:24,180 --> 01:32:26,940
Jeremy works at the Geneva
International Motor Show for

1523
01:32:26,940 --> 01:32:27,600
your use.

1524
01:32:28,740 --> 01:32:32,640
So this is this is indeed the
trend and I I've heard a lot of

1525
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:36,960
people talk about their hybrids
and they all kind of say the

1526
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:40,110
marketing is working they all
say the same thing. Well, when

1527
01:32:40,110 --> 01:32:43,860
I'm driving around my own city
my own town I want to be

1528
01:32:43,860 --> 01:32:47,040
electric I want to keep it clean
and then when I get on the

1529
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,790
highway then I can you know blow
it wide open and use the news

1530
01:32:50,790 --> 01:32:55,260
the petrol part of the car so
it's the marketing is keep your

1531
01:32:55,290 --> 01:32:57,090
keep your hometown clean

1532
01:32:58,830 --> 01:33:01,590
this is reasonable approach

1533
01:33:01,770 --> 01:33:05,400
it's working it's working they
got him here now all kinds I

1534
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,980
see. Mercedes BMW is everyone's
driving him

1535
01:33:10,350 --> 01:33:11,910
Yeah, you gotta keep charging

1536
01:33:11,910 --> 01:33:16,320
him but the flying car is off
the radar. Yeah,

1537
01:33:16,620 --> 01:33:19,950
of course. You know what the
flying car we went electric car

1538
01:33:19,950 --> 01:33:23,220
that doesn't really go very far.
So UK keep the public

1539
01:33:23,490 --> 01:33:27,720
so you can't escape. That's the
escape no escape. There's no

1540
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,000
escape and your battery vehicle
none

1541
01:33:33,390 --> 01:33:36,270
All right, well, couples the
other things are going on that

1542
01:33:36,270 --> 01:33:38,490
might be worth discussing unless
you want to take a break.

1543
01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:44,940
No, we already know we took a
break I'll take a break if you

1544
01:33:44,940 --> 01:33:46,380
want but the show will be over

1545
01:33:49,290 --> 01:33:53,790
take a listen to them. What's
going on? The anti Israel stuff

1546
01:33:53,790 --> 01:33:56,220
is really cropping up all over
the place. I think it's part of

1547
01:33:56,220 --> 01:33:58,890
some sort of a kind of I think
it's a trend. I think it's

1548
01:33:58,890 --> 01:34:01,740
somebody I think somebody's
behind it because it's too much

1549
01:34:01,770 --> 01:34:06,510
this has to do with Omar on the
start with her. She's like

1550
01:34:06,570 --> 01:34:09,870
they've given her biggest some
guys have whispered in her ear

1551
01:34:09,870 --> 01:34:12,660
to like keep keep up keep
keeping up. This is doing Oh,

1552
01:34:12,660 --> 01:34:17,100
this is a this is Omar the the
freshman Yeah, the

1553
01:34:17,100 --> 01:34:21,210
freshman Congresswoman who's
hates Israel hates Jews that

1554
01:34:21,210 --> 01:34:26,010
just summarize. Oh, let's play
this Omar stuff. CBS

1555
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:29,550
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told
reporters Tuesday resolution.

1556
01:34:30,810 --> 01:34:35,670
Oh, I'm sorry. My mistake. Yes,
here it is. This is the one I'm

1557
01:34:35,670 --> 01:34:35,820
in.

1558
01:34:35,910 --> 01:34:38,130
I knew what intolerance looks
like.

1559
01:34:38,220 --> 01:34:42,060
The latest comment to land Omar
in hot water was this one she

1560
01:34:42,060 --> 01:34:46,500
made at a DC bookstore slamming
congressional support Israel

1561
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:49,680
influence

1562
01:34:50,130 --> 01:34:55,650
in this country that says it is
okay for people to push for

1563
01:34:55,650 --> 01:34:57,750
allegiance to a foreign country.

1564
01:34:57,930 --> 01:35:01,650
In response her own party draft
did a four page resolution

1565
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:06,330
rejecting anti semitism without
mentioning Omar by name? It says

1566
01:35:06,330 --> 01:35:10,380
her comment suggests that Jews
cannot be patriotic Americans

1567
01:35:10,440 --> 01:35:14,310
and trusted neighbors. Democrat
Josh got Heimer

1568
01:35:14,580 --> 01:35:18,450
as someone who's Jewish, the
idea that you would question my

1569
01:35:18,450 --> 01:35:22,440
loyalty to the country has a
lawmaker because of my religion

1570
01:35:22,590 --> 01:35:26,250
is obviously offensive and deep
and deeply hurtful.

1571
01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:30,540
The President called it a dark
day for Israel and GOP leaders

1572
01:35:30,570 --> 01:35:32,550
urged the Democrats to go
further.

1573
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,670
Nancy Pelosi has to remove her
from the foreign affairs

1574
01:35:35,670 --> 01:35:38,910
committee. Speaker Pelosi shares
the cover of this month's

1575
01:35:38,910 --> 01:35:42,480
Rolling Stone with Omar who is
the nation's first Muslim

1576
01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:47,430
Congresswoman. But Pelosi also
reprimanded Omar last month for

1577
01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:53,460
a tweet about a Jewish lobbying
group and money posted. Omar

1578
01:35:53,460 --> 01:35:57,180
says she's being held to a
double standard. Just last week,

1579
01:35:57,180 --> 01:36:01,140
a poster was erected in the West
Virginia State Capitol linking

1580
01:36:01,140 --> 01:36:02,490
her with 911.

1581
01:36:02,669 --> 01:36:05,549
We get to be called the names
and we get to be labeled as

1582
01:36:05,549 --> 01:36:08,519
hateful. Looks like.

1583
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:17,280
That argument has clearly
resonated with some tonight

1584
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,850
Democrats say they're going to
be reworking this anti semitism

1585
01:36:20,850 --> 01:36:25,590
resolution to include anti
Muslim bias as well and they say

1586
01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:28,800
the vote Jeff will likely get
pushed off to Thursday.

1587
01:36:30,450 --> 01:36:33,030
Let's talk about this for six
different Elan. But

1588
01:36:33,540 --> 01:36:36,090
before we talked about you want
to play the other one too. While

1589
01:36:36,090 --> 01:36:37,980
we're at it. They went from
Democracy Now.

1590
01:36:40,410 --> 01:36:41,970
That's about the resolution.
Yeah, let's play that

1591
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,480
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told
reporters Tuesday a resolution

1592
01:36:45,480 --> 01:36:50,040
condemning anti semitism will
now also condemn anti Muslim

1593
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:53,490
bias. The resolution is seen as
a direct rebuke of recent

1594
01:36:53,490 --> 01:36:56,820
comments by Minnesota Congress
member Ilhan Omar questioning

1595
01:36:56,820 --> 01:37:00,360
the US relationship with Israel
even though the draft resolution

1596
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,900
does not explicitly name the
freshman Congress member. The

1597
01:37:03,900 --> 01:37:07,320
resolution was announced after
comments by Omar at an event

1598
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,530
last week in which he called out
the, quote, political influence

1599
01:37:10,530 --> 01:37:13,590
in this country that says it's
okay for people to push for

1600
01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:16,560
allegiance to a foreign country
referring to Israel.

1601
01:37:17,850 --> 01:37:24,990
All right. So first an
observation, the anti semitism I

1602
01:37:25,110 --> 01:37:29,520
mean, and it may there may be
truly an an uptick and increase

1603
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,330
in anti semitism is all over
Europe as well. It almost feels

1604
01:37:33,330 --> 01:37:38,310
like the world is we're
devolving into chaos. And the

1605
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:43,290
people who are in responsible
for it. hate the Jews. They're

1606
01:37:43,290 --> 01:37:47,010
blaming the Jews. I see that in
the Netherlands. I see it in

1607
01:37:47,010 --> 01:37:51,510
France. I see it in Germany,
actually all over the EU. I'm

1608
01:37:51,510 --> 01:37:55,710
reading it in the press. A lot
of this started with the BDS

1609
01:37:55,710 --> 01:38:01,950
movement. I believe the boycott,
divest and what's the US? I

1610
01:38:01,950 --> 01:38:05,910
forget Yes, sanction, sanction,
sanction, Boycott Divestment

1611
01:38:05,910 --> 01:38:09,240
Sanction it should the Obama
administration spent a lot of

1612
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:13,920
time promoting the plight of the
Palestinians. But then there's

1613
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,280
this other percentage thing
that's going around and although

1614
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,520
the percentages are correct,
this is I think this is where

1615
01:38:20,610 --> 01:38:27,840
the problem stem from four Oh
Ilan is 3% of the US population

1616
01:38:27,990 --> 01:38:34,320
is Jewish identifies as Jewish
as 60% of the US Congress is

1617
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:38,760
Jewish. These are rough numbers
so don't hold me to it. And this

1618
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:42,300
is where the allegiance comes
from. There's always been you

1619
01:38:42,300 --> 01:38:45,330
know rumors that you know, all
these senators have dual

1620
01:38:45,330 --> 01:38:48,780
passports which I have never
seen any evidence for. Believe

1621
01:38:48,780 --> 01:38:52,290
that I don't believe it either.
That may be true but I've just

1622
01:38:52,290 --> 01:38:57,030
never seen it and I'm but I have
heard this before. So it's it's

1623
01:38:57,060 --> 01:39:02,310
I don't know exactly why this
happens but it for sure. The

1624
01:39:02,310 --> 01:39:04,170
talk about it is taking place.

1625
01:39:06,450 --> 01:39:09,930
Well, they're not going to let
whoever they are, are not going

1626
01:39:09,930 --> 01:39:13,110
to let Omar let up they're going
to have her as she she's like to

1627
01:39:13,470 --> 01:39:16,410
throw in her to the wolves and
see what happens. I want to play

1628
01:39:16,440 --> 01:39:19,740
one more clip. This is another
one. About the same topic this

1629
01:39:19,740 --> 01:39:23,100
the UK Liberal Party anti Israel
demands

1630
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,250
in Britain Labour Party and
opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn

1631
01:39:26,250 --> 01:39:29,640
is renewing calls for the UK to
stop selling arms to Israel in

1632
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,340
light of the recent UN inquiry
that found that Israel may have

1633
01:39:32,340 --> 01:39:34,860
committed war crimes and crimes
against humanity and their

1634
01:39:34,860 --> 01:39:38,160
response to protesters in Gaza
since the start of the great

1635
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:42,510
march of return last March
demonstrations. The report says

1636
01:39:42,510 --> 01:39:46,500
that Israeli forces targeted
unarmed protesters in Gaza with

1637
01:39:46,500 --> 01:39:50,340
lethal force including children,
journalists and the disabled and

1638
01:39:50,340 --> 01:39:53,700
that they killed 189
Palestinians almost all of them

1639
01:39:53,700 --> 01:39:57,330
with live ammunition. The UK
government must unequivocally

1640
01:39:57,330 --> 01:40:01,050
condemn the killings and freeze
arm sales to it his real labor

1641
01:40:01,050 --> 01:40:04,650
leader Corbyn tweeted after the
report was published, the Labour

1642
01:40:04,650 --> 01:40:07,920
Party which is not currently in
power passed a motion last year

1643
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:11,070
calling for an embargo on arms
sales to Israel.

1644
01:40:12,540 --> 01:40:17,940
Israel makes their own arms as
far as I know, I mean they do

1645
01:40:17,940 --> 01:40:18,900
buy ours but they

1646
01:40:18,929 --> 01:40:22,829
come on we got we sold them the
Iron Dome, we give them money to

1647
01:40:22,829 --> 01:40:26,039
buy stuff come on stuff like
that connector domes.

1648
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:29,070
Also offensive product. I'm not
going to stop sales of that.

1649
01:40:29,099 --> 01:40:34,679
Let's add a let's add a another
data point is Trump moving the

1650
01:40:34,709 --> 01:40:37,469
embassy? This didn't help.

1651
01:40:37,500 --> 01:40:39,990
Yes, that got everybody all bent
out of shape. A few other

1652
01:40:39,990 --> 01:40:42,000
countries have suggested doing
it too.

1653
01:40:42,540 --> 01:40:45,000
Well, a couple of presidents
have suggested doing it, but

1654
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,220
they never did. And I don't know
why I

1655
01:40:47,250 --> 01:40:50,760
suggested doing it. But they
never did. Trump did it. Yeah,

1656
01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:52,980
so a lot of this always been
suggested. Hold

1657
01:40:52,980 --> 01:40:55,590
on, but he did. Well, let's
stick with that for a second. Is

1658
01:40:55,590 --> 01:41:01,830
it perhaps possible that this is
also an anti Trump thing?

1659
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,860
Well, we can assume that a lot
of these things are anti Trump

1660
01:41:07,860 --> 01:41:13,530
things. Maybe Maybe maybe the
whole thing and we all be anti

1661
01:41:13,530 --> 01:41:17,190
Trump is so sick, man. These
guys are desperate. Never seen

1662
01:41:17,190 --> 01:41:24,930
anything like it. Yeah, they had
a they had a Michael Savage who

1663
01:41:24,930 --> 01:41:29,580
has decided one of the major
right wing talkers, has decided

1664
01:41:29,580 --> 01:41:32,280
to change everything he's done
his whole life. He's going to

1665
01:41:32,610 --> 01:41:38,760
shorter format. Oh, really?
Yeah, I'm reminded of Conan

1666
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:42,900
O'Brien experiments with the
people or six doing experiments.

1667
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,530
You go into a shorter format,
it's going to split the time

1668
01:41:46,530 --> 01:41:49,530
with Ben Shapiro who's has his
own show. No, no, no,

1669
01:41:49,590 --> 01:41:52,260
this is this is this is not
Michael Savage making a

1670
01:41:52,260 --> 01:41:56,280
decision. This is Michael Savage
being worked out. The new Well,

1671
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:56,400
I

1672
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:58,530
think there's some truth to
that. But Michael Savage has

1673
01:41:58,620 --> 01:42:01,860
become a podcaster. In the
meantime, thinking that that's

1674
01:42:01,860 --> 01:42:03,030
his exit strategy.

1675
01:42:03,060 --> 01:42:05,130
Good luck. Good luck.

1676
01:42:05,850 --> 01:42:08,940
I think he could actually do
well as a as a podcaster.

1677
01:42:09,210 --> 01:42:11,910
Because I've seen some of the
stuff that he's doing as the

1678
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:16,980
podcaster is way is is just
really more entertaining than

1679
01:42:16,980 --> 01:42:18,630
anything he does on the radio
and what

1680
01:42:18,630 --> 01:42:22,920
does he What does he have the we
don't have the money? Sorry, I

1681
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,650
was gonna say, All right, so
successful, but not financially

1682
01:42:25,650 --> 01:42:27,030
successful. That makes sense.

1683
01:42:28,050 --> 01:42:31,770
I don't know what's financially
successful would mean to him at

1684
01:42:31,770 --> 01:42:35,490
this point. I don't think he
cares. Because he, he's really

1685
01:42:35,490 --> 01:42:39,180
he's more of a I think he's an
egomaniac, but I think he just

1686
01:42:39,180 --> 01:42:41,670
likes being able to just say
what he feels like without

1687
01:42:41,670 --> 01:42:45,240
anybody in or interrupting or
telling him not to do it or or

1688
01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:50,640
stations dropping him like W ABC
did he that really excited when

1689
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,670
he went W ABC dropped him or
said they would I think they did

1690
01:42:53,670 --> 01:42:57,150
drop him. He that's when he
started the podcast ideas is

1691
01:42:57,150 --> 01:43:00,960
That's it. I've had him doing
podcasting. And because I you

1692
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,800
know, I can't be held. I can't
be held hostage by these radio

1693
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:08,520
stations, right? But he had this
guest on who just wrote a book.

1694
01:43:09,060 --> 01:43:12,600
And there's a kind of an Occam's
Razor thing in here that he's

1695
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:17,190
trying to get the guests to tell
him Ah, why they they hate Trump

1696
01:43:17,190 --> 01:43:20,130
so much because in this guy
wrote a book about the case

1697
01:43:20,130 --> 01:43:22,470
recalled, I think it's called a
case for Trump showing all the

1698
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:25,650
things that he's actually done,
the made promises that he kept

1699
01:43:25,650 --> 01:43:29,880
and things along those lines.
And then the guy this comes out,

1700
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:31,740
this is the weird Michael Savage
clip.

1701
01:43:31,950 --> 01:43:34,590
Well, you certainly use them
with Donald Trump, that's for

1702
01:43:34,590 --> 01:43:35,040
sure.

1703
01:43:35,700 --> 01:43:38,760
And he's using them without him.
The whole organization is

1704
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:42,810
corrupted. Using them against
Trump also, yes.

1705
01:43:46,950 --> 01:43:49,860
I believe that this is not the
guy wrote the book. This is

1706
01:43:49,890 --> 01:43:55,350
maybe it is, but this guy was
related to the mob. And he uses

1707
01:43:55,350 --> 01:44:00,630
on to talk about how the mob has
changed. And anyway, play it

1708
01:44:00,630 --> 01:44:04,110
again. But I'm not certain of
this guy's pedigree. While he

1709
01:44:04,110 --> 01:44:06,870
certainly used them with Donald
Trump, that's for sure.

1710
01:44:07,500 --> 01:44:10,590
And he's using them without him.
The whole organization is

1711
01:44:10,590 --> 01:44:16,320
corrupted. Using them against
Trump also, yes, that's a shame.

1712
01:44:16,590 --> 01:44:17,040
It's a shame.

1713
01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:20,520
Why did they hate Why do you
think knowing powerful men your

1714
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:23,640
whole life? Why do you think
they hate Trump so much? What

1715
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,210
has he really done that invokes
their wrath so much?

1716
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:31,140
As a businessman they these
people are politicians they

1717
01:44:31,140 --> 01:44:35,370
don't want to see a businessman
succeed. It goes against their

1718
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:36,660
the their beliefs,

1719
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:39,870
a businessman from the outside.
In other words,

1720
01:44:40,380 --> 01:44:42,720
on the outside, he's a
businessman, so they don't want

1721
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:47,490
to see a businessman over
politician to succeed and make

1722
01:44:47,490 --> 01:44:50,490
America great greater than they
did. That's the

1723
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:55,320
I don't think that's that weird.
That makes sense.

1724
01:44:56,130 --> 01:44:59,130
It's actually kind of a knock
comes razor thing. It's like

1725
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:03,090
hello Trump is not a politician.
He didn't even come into the

1726
01:45:03,090 --> 01:45:06,270
political system. That's the
whole business matter. Even

1727
01:45:06,270 --> 01:45:09,630
though Michael Savage missed it
missed the he missed it as

1728
01:45:09,630 --> 01:45:12,990
usual. He says, Oh, he's an
outsider. No, no, it's not that

1729
01:45:12,990 --> 01:45:16,770
he's an outsider. Because if you
remember, and I remember this

1730
01:45:16,770 --> 01:45:20,220
was I witnessed this forever.
This constant harping,

1731
01:45:20,220 --> 01:45:24,420
especially by the Republicans
that we need. businessman, yeah.

1732
01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:27,660
Oh, yeah, we need a businessman.
But then we always have, like

1733
01:45:27,660 --> 01:45:29,850
the politician, and they knew
oh, we need a businessman

1734
01:45:29,850 --> 01:45:32,160
because they'll change things.
And then there was the counter,

1735
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,830
I was No, no, no, no, the
businessman doesn't know how

1736
01:45:34,830 --> 01:45:37,950
things work. And government
government's different

1737
01:45:37,950 --> 01:45:40,890
government needs politicians,
and these people didn't know how

1738
01:45:40,890 --> 01:45:44,730
to work a governmental system.
And then did you have that back

1739
01:45:44,730 --> 01:45:49,500
and forth argument, if the whole
thing just boils down, as this

1740
01:45:49,500 --> 01:45:54,480
guy thinks, to just to hate the
Trump hate and the whole machine

1741
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:59,790
is because he's a businessman
proving the old theory correct,

1742
01:46:00,810 --> 01:46:06,750
that a businessman can run, you
know, government operations. You

1743
01:46:06,750 --> 01:46:13,410
know, maybe eventually get the
Pentagon audited. That this is

1744
01:46:13,410 --> 01:46:16,530
simplicity of that is just kind
of like takes took me back a

1745
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,170
bit. Because it's possible.
That's all it is.

1746
01:46:19,380 --> 01:46:24,540
Well remember when or recall
when one when he first came onto

1747
01:46:24,540 --> 01:46:27,510
the scene, and when he first
looked like he was really going

1748
01:46:27,510 --> 01:46:31,080
to elected? It, just look at all
the pictures. I mean, every

1749
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:35,460
single politician, every
politico in the United States is

1750
01:46:35,460 --> 01:46:38,790
somewhere McGinn on camera with
Trump at some party, because

1751
01:46:38,790 --> 01:46:40,980
he's one of those guys. I've
been to these parties. I've been

1752
01:46:40,980 --> 01:46:44,190
to parties where Trump was
there. It's the same idea. The

1753
01:46:44,220 --> 01:46:48,270
all that happens is they put up
with him with his boorish

1754
01:46:48,270 --> 01:46:52,890
behavior and his his golden
life. Because he contributes to

1755
01:46:52,890 --> 01:46:56,340
their campaigns. He's got a lot
of money. He has lots of say he

1756
01:46:56,340 --> 01:46:59,610
has some influence, and they
just put up with them, but they

1757
01:46:59,610 --> 01:47:02,400
all just like they're that guy's
a dick. He's a douche. What a

1758
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:06,720
moron what a shithead. But then
all of a sudden he connected. He

1759
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,540
becomes president. Yeah, that
was not that's not what we

1760
01:47:09,540 --> 01:47:12,420
invited you to the party.
Donald. You're not supposed to

1761
01:47:12,420 --> 01:47:17,250
like get into our lane here.
Stay out. Yeah. So it's just in

1762
01:47:17,250 --> 01:47:19,620
your lane, bro. It's the
arrogance of the political

1763
01:47:19,620 --> 01:47:22,650
class. And this may never happen
again in our lives. I'm happy

1764
01:47:22,650 --> 01:47:25,800
we're witnessing it. We may not
have a life after this. You

1765
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:34,110
never know. Just about Ben
Shapiro. So Savage is going from

1766
01:47:34,440 --> 01:47:39,810
radio to podcast Shapiro, who is
a Hollywood creation. Hobbit has

1767
01:47:39,810 --> 01:47:42,900
had a Hollywood agent. They
taught him how to dress. I don't

1768
01:47:42,900 --> 01:47:45,900
know who taught him how to dress
but the dressing differently

1769
01:47:45,900 --> 01:47:49,590
than whatever he was wearing
before. Now he's moving in from

1770
01:47:49,590 --> 01:47:53,820
podcasts into the mainstream.
Then he's he's got backing he's

1771
01:47:53,820 --> 01:47:57,630
got real money behind him. It's
not just his little ads that are

1772
01:47:57,630 --> 01:47:59,700
running here's something he said
the other day had no

1773
01:47:59,700 --> 01:48:03,870
agenda. Facts. That's apples not
bananas fat.

1774
01:48:03,929 --> 01:48:05,339
There you go. That's Ben
Shapiro.

1775
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,360
Well, there's another one that's
that's got to be washed. I think

1776
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,970
this is a piece of crap because
I've been listening to it play

1777
01:48:11,970 --> 01:48:13,260
the podcast update.

1778
01:48:13,350 --> 01:48:17,010
Oh. Oh, good podcast news.

1779
01:48:17,070 --> 01:48:20,730
New Gingrich, former Speaker of
the House and a new podcast host

1780
01:48:20,730 --> 01:48:22,230
called a newts world.

1781
01:48:24,270 --> 01:48:30,510
Yo, he should join luminary. Did
you read about luminary?

1782
01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:33,120
Maybe we get

1783
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:40,410
ready. Here is pod show all over
again. With big stars and Paid

1784
01:48:40,410 --> 01:48:46,890
Subscriptions luminary aims to
be the Netflix of podcasts. Oh,

1785
01:48:46,890 --> 01:48:53,940
yeah. So work. So this is a 40
exclusive shows. This company

1786
01:48:53,940 --> 01:48:55,890
luminary has lined up they

1787
01:48:56,940 --> 01:48:59,880
was a little different than
gimlet. We should just make a

1788
01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:01,320
list of all these networks.

1789
01:49:01,469 --> 01:49:05,069
The offerings come from podcast
startup called luminary that has

1790
01:49:05,069 --> 01:49:10,139
emerged from stealth mode to
unveiled stealth mode, stealth

1791
01:49:10,139 --> 01:49:18,419
mode, stealth mode. Here we go
here we're in. They've emerged

1792
01:49:18,419 --> 01:49:24,719
from stealth mode to unveil
nearly $100 million in funding.

1793
01:49:26,069 --> 01:49:28,919
Now, here's a little difference
with a subscription based

1794
01:49:28,919 --> 01:49:32,909
business model that it hopes
that that will hopes will push

1795
01:49:32,909 --> 01:49:38,279
the medium into a new phase of
growth. And here's the quote we

1796
01:49:38,309 --> 01:49:41,459
this is from the New York Times,
we want to become synonymous

1797
01:49:41,459 --> 01:49:44,789
with podcasting. In the same way
Netflix has become synonymous

1798
01:49:44,789 --> 01:49:48,329
with streaming. By the way, I
don't think next Netflix is

1799
01:49:48,329 --> 01:49:51,689
synonymous with streaming at
all. This is Matt sacks

1800
01:49:51,689 --> 01:49:55,379
luminaries co founder and chief
executive. I know how ambitious

1801
01:49:55,379 --> 01:49:58,259
that sounds. We think it can be
done and with some of the top

1802
01:49:58,259 --> 01:50:02,639
creators in the space they all
On agree, creators in the space

1803
01:50:02,999 --> 01:50:06,149
on creators, I gotta write this
down. If someone says what are

1804
01:50:06,149 --> 01:50:07,799
you I'm a creator in the space.

1805
01:50:10,290 --> 01:50:11,820
Space.

1806
01:50:12,510 --> 01:50:19,320
Okay, that's the opening of the
show. That's good. So, the idea

1807
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:26,430
is he's going to charge $8 a
month for subscribers to gain

1808
01:50:26,430 --> 01:50:32,070
access to luminaries lineup. And
for $6 a year for creators,

1809
01:50:32,220 --> 01:50:35,700
luminary is offering large
upfront payment guarantees and

1810
01:50:35,700 --> 01:50:39,540
exchange this we did this in
exchange for exclusive rights to

1811
01:50:39,540 --> 01:50:41,880
distribute their work reducing
the risk of a concept and

1812
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:44,970
hopefully encouraging greater
creativity and higher production

1813
01:50:44,970 --> 01:50:45,870
values.

1814
01:50:46,170 --> 01:50:49,530
Yeah, this is pachow all over
again, and it will not work as

1815
01:50:49,530 --> 01:50:52,170
have any sense of history. No,

1816
01:50:53,340 --> 01:50:56,490
you know, the New York Times
that could have called me for

1817
01:50:56,520 --> 01:51:00,300
for, for an opposing opinion. We
called the Bob falda

1818
01:51:01,590 --> 01:51:03,900
No, they didn't call you you're
not on the Rolodex.

1819
01:51:04,050 --> 01:51:08,940
So So and this is very different
when you're talking to

1820
01:51:08,940 --> 01:51:11,610
some of these shows that you may
keep reading this is good stuff.

1821
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:14,250
I mean, I very enjoys enjoy
yours cynical reading.

1822
01:51:15,210 --> 01:51:18,270
I didn't know you were
interested in that. Okay. Some

1823
01:51:18,270 --> 01:51:23,700
of the shows paddy lapu LuPone.
As a bebop singing junkie none

1824
01:51:23,700 --> 01:51:26,910
in John Cameron Mitchell's
musical follow up to Hedwig and

1825
01:51:26,910 --> 01:51:31,620
the Angry Inch. A new show from
Lena Dunham called the C word.

1826
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:36,240
Bah bah bah, bah, bah, bah. Are
they putting Broadway shows on

1827
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:37,830
the podcast? Yeah, this

1828
01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:43,290
is a musical follow up to Hedwig
and the Angry Inch. Yeah, see if

1829
01:51:43,290 --> 01:51:45,420
there's anything well, here they
say here

1830
01:51:45,480 --> 01:51:49,560
at Isla poan by the way is the
most of all the Broadway

1831
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:53,820
actresses, especially older
ones, the most Trump hating

1832
01:51:53,820 --> 01:51:56,280
woman. I think she's beyond
Barbra Streisand.

1833
01:51:57,180 --> 01:52:02,760
Wow, that's saying some shit is
a new show from Lana Don Lena

1834
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:08,580
Dunham called the C word. And a
series from Conan O'Brien.

1835
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:13,320
Malcolm Gladwell, Trevor Noah,
they got the big names John,

1836
01:52:13,350 --> 01:52:14,760
that bringing in a bit younger.

1837
01:52:15,420 --> 01:52:18,090
Malcolm Gladwell has his own
podcast, we're just moving it

1838
01:52:18,090 --> 01:52:19,380
over to this system. Is that
Yeah,

1839
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:24,150
I think so. Yeah. So So these
people are giving. It's like,

1840
01:52:24,180 --> 01:52:28,830
it's like moving to Sirius XM.
Now, you will be relevant to a

1841
01:52:28,830 --> 01:52:33,540
very small amount of people. And
his discovery just becomes an

1842
01:52:33,540 --> 01:52:34,020
issue.

1843
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,100
Too many people too many shows
too many channels. And also with

1844
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:41,460
discovery as a huge part of the
real problem with podcasting is

1845
01:52:41,460 --> 01:52:45,600
you can't you have to develop an
audience because you can't get

1846
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,480
discovered. Yeah, and it's not
you look at all the top 20

1847
01:52:48,480 --> 01:52:52,320
podcasts you look, I mean, every
magazine does these. It's nice.

1848
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,480
It would be nice if we were
either way, we're never on him.

1849
01:52:54,810 --> 01:52:59,160
Never, never on him. And so they
have the list. And I've looked

1850
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:02,370
at those lists, and I've never
visited any of those podcasts.

1851
01:53:02,850 --> 01:53:06,180
Now, once in a while, this might
be habits and I listen to a

1852
01:53:06,180 --> 01:53:10,440
podcast or two. But I'll go to
like I see these new networks.

1853
01:53:10,440 --> 01:53:13,560
There's a bunch of them gimlet,
for example out there, and

1854
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,090
they're gonna move over there.
And I look at all these

1855
01:53:15,090 --> 01:53:18,150
different podcasts about this
and that and then I'll play a

1856
01:53:18,150 --> 01:53:22,530
part of one and I started and
it's just always dull. And I

1857
01:53:22,530 --> 01:53:26,790
just give up on him. So I so
discovery of the good podcasts

1858
01:53:26,790 --> 01:53:30,480
that's in there. I mean, I think
the your buddy down there,

1859
01:53:30,480 --> 01:53:34,230
Benjamin a five by five. Yeah,
no, he said, good. I like his

1860
01:53:34,230 --> 01:53:36,900
podcast when he talks about
podcasting. It's one of the best

1861
01:53:36,900 --> 01:53:39,840
there is so so. So podcast, so
you're hitting

1862
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:44,760
upon it. I mean, pod you cannot
equate podcast to television

1863
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:49,980
shows you cannot equate a
podcast to to a movie you get on

1864
01:53:49,980 --> 01:53:55,440
Netflix. Excuse me. It it is
you're joining a community

1865
01:53:55,440 --> 01:54:00,060
because that's podcast. Yeah,
you may have a news podcast like

1866
01:54:00,060 --> 01:54:04,350
the daily or pod save the
privilege. But that's going to

1867
01:54:04,350 --> 01:54:09,030
be a community of like minded
political thinking, which can be

1868
01:54:09,030 --> 01:54:12,570
quite large, but it's a
community. Those people are

1869
01:54:12,570 --> 01:54:15,060
never going to go and find
anything else that doesn't

1870
01:54:15,060 --> 01:54:19,410
interest them. Yes. A lineup of
stuff doesn't work. You will

1871
01:54:19,410 --> 01:54:23,880
hear this word of mouth. We've
seen this growth we grow year

1872
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:31,650
over year we grow about what
John 8% Maybe just Navy

1873
01:54:31,650 --> 01:54:35,130
that's a reasonable number about
8%. Eight to 10. Man a good

1874
01:54:35,130 --> 01:54:39,180
year. Yeah. And that includes
that that's that's a net because

1875
01:54:39,180 --> 01:54:43,890
we lose. We lose people of
course, we lose a lot of people.

1876
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:47,760
Right and that's not the growth
doesn't come from people seeing

1877
01:54:49,530 --> 01:54:53,730
seeing an ad or even in a lineup
although I will say our ever

1878
01:54:53,730 --> 01:54:57,330
changing artwork does make
people curious and it does have

1879
01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:00,330
it's more a form of advertising.
It's more an alert message. NISM

1880
01:55:00,330 --> 01:55:02,580
I think it's like, oh, there's
something new that I see that

1881
01:55:02,580 --> 01:55:05,730
you already subscribe to. Also,
you know, the idea of

1882
01:55:05,730 --> 01:55:08,130
subscribing doesn't really
matter anymore. As long as it

1883
01:55:08,130 --> 01:55:11,130
link, a link, someone can click
on and listen to, but it's going

1884
01:55:11,130 --> 01:55:15,660
to be a community. And then you
have to know how to build one.

1885
01:55:15,870 --> 01:55:19,410
It's not like a blog, it's not
something that people can get a

1886
01:55:19,410 --> 01:55:23,490
quick hit of. Like, you don't
get a quick hit of the no agenda

1887
01:55:23,490 --> 01:55:26,160
show. You're either in it,
you're interested, it's like a

1888
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:29,250
comic, like talk about comic
books, there's going to be an

1889
01:55:29,250 --> 01:55:32,880
audience. And if you follow our
value for value model, you'll be

1890
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,610
able to sustain yourself. And I
think certainly a comic book

1891
01:55:35,610 --> 01:55:40,440
podcast could do that. But it
makes no sense from us all. I'm

1892
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:43,380
going to promote the comic book
podcast, there'll be people who

1893
01:55:43,380 --> 01:55:47,100
will listen. But they're going
to find it through a community,

1894
01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:49,200
they already belong to a night
and they're going to hear it

1895
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:53,610
from me, it's just not the same
is being treated as music by

1896
01:55:53,610 --> 01:55:57,240
Samia, you'd like that you'd
like this. None of that works.

1897
01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:01,500
We've seen it not work
consistently. For 15 years,

1898
01:56:02,010 --> 01:56:05,940
we've seen the monetization
ideas of a network of shows not

1899
01:56:05,940 --> 01:56:10,110
work for 15 years. You cannot
monetize

1900
01:56:10,860 --> 01:56:16,620
VCs. This is a matter of the VC
soak. And VCs that don't want to

1901
01:56:16,620 --> 01:56:19,080
talk to anybody who knows what
they're talking about. Just

1902
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,660
throw money at these sorts of
things, because they got a good

1903
01:56:21,660 --> 01:56:26,730
sales pitch. And they you know,
they use all media examples to

1904
01:56:26,730 --> 01:56:29,340
try to promote it. It does. No,
you're right. It's just it's

1905
01:56:29,340 --> 01:56:32,310
going to be and by the way,
we'll make out and that's about

1906
01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:32,640
it. By the

1907
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:38,490
way, how well is Netflix doing
really, you know, they have a

1908
01:56:38,490 --> 01:56:44,190
huge issue. They have to raise
the price. And Wall Street knows

1909
01:56:44,190 --> 01:56:47,340
this. They are the darlings for
sure. They came out of nowhere

1910
01:56:47,340 --> 01:56:51,570
and shot up like crazy. But now,
now it's plateauing. Now, just

1911
01:56:51,570 --> 01:56:54,660
like the iPhones and the
smartphones, everyone has some

1912
01:56:54,660 --> 01:56:58,020
stuff, you know, do we need
more? Do I need another service,

1913
01:56:58,020 --> 01:57:00,900
you know, might have to have ADD
Amazon, people only have so much

1914
01:57:00,900 --> 01:57:06,510
money. And Netflix is not going
to be able to sustain itself.

1915
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:11,520
What always unless they really
somehow figure out how they can

1916
01:57:11,700 --> 01:57:14,880
make enough money on their own
productions, which is incredibly

1917
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:16,230
expensive. Amazon's all

1918
01:57:16,230 --> 01:57:18,660
loss leader, and that's totally
risky.

1919
01:57:18,810 --> 01:57:24,660
So they whenever you're in this
type of situation, you know that

1920
01:57:24,660 --> 01:57:30,210
your supply chain, which is
Hollywood, which you make some

1921
01:57:30,210 --> 01:57:32,610
of they're going to raise their
prices. So

1922
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:36,480
it just won't only so much
talent, what I mean?

1923
01:57:36,510 --> 01:57:39,060
Well, they're intermediaries,
it's the into being an

1924
01:57:39,060 --> 01:57:45,900
intermediary is very hard to do
the art the arbitrage to make

1925
01:57:45,900 --> 01:57:48,480
the money between what you owe
on royalties and what you can

1926
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:52,710
bring in. When it's advertising.
The big like, like every

1927
01:57:52,740 --> 01:57:55,620
everyone else is doing so for
this guy. The problem is the

1928
01:57:55,620 --> 01:57:59,310
advertisers are God and they
tell you what you can and can't

1929
01:57:59,310 --> 01:58:02,670
say and where they do or do not
want their ad placed. When you

1930
01:58:02,670 --> 01:58:05,610
do a subscription that you just
can't charge people enough

1931
01:58:05,610 --> 01:58:09,150
money. You can't do this on a
network level anymore. It's just

1932
01:58:09,150 --> 01:58:11,370
not they haven't figured it out
yet. They have to crash and

1933
01:58:11,370 --> 01:58:11,760
burn.

1934
01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:15,690
They will. How's gimlet doing?

1935
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:19,650
Well, gimlet has its own issue
because people are very worried

1936
01:58:20,940 --> 01:58:23,820
that their favorite shows or
you'll not have to go to

1937
01:58:23,820 --> 01:58:27,090
Spotify. And of course gimlet is
saying oh, don't worry about

1938
01:58:27,090 --> 01:58:32,310
that. We will never do that.
Never. No, of course, it's, I

1939
01:58:32,310 --> 01:58:34,920
can guarantee you they're gonna
have to put a couple of their

1940
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:39,240
big shows behind behind the
paywall, or figure out different

1941
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:42,600
ways, you know, with I guess,
with the advertising model, they

1942
01:58:42,630 --> 01:58:45,690
already they're saying, well,
newer shows won't be freely

1943
01:58:45,690 --> 01:58:47,850
available. Now.

1944
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:53,280
Freely available, they're not
going to get any listeners.

1945
01:58:53,670 --> 01:58:59,310
It's, it's, it's That's why John
and I, over time, it wasn't like

1946
01:58:59,310 --> 01:59:02,460
we wrote it on a on a
whiteboard. But we're agile

1947
01:59:02,460 --> 01:59:05,130
enough. And we cared enough to
figure out what the community

1948
01:59:05,220 --> 01:59:08,700
was capable of doing and how to
grow it. We came up with a value

1949
01:59:08,700 --> 01:59:13,650
for value concept. It's 11
years. We're still here, but

1950
01:59:13,650 --> 01:59:21,360
we're not a network of shows.
We're a network of producers. It

1951
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:24,180
was so such a nice ending and
then I hit the wrong button.

1952
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:25,200
Yeah, you do that?

1953
01:59:27,270 --> 01:59:29,850
Yeah, that's why we're not
slick. I'm not gimlet, you know.

1954
01:59:30,570 --> 01:59:34,830
I'm gonna show my agenda.
Imagine all the people who could

1955
01:59:34,830 --> 01:59:36,210
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be

1956
01:59:44,550 --> 01:59:48,180
Oh, we do have a few people to
thank very few, I might say very

1957
01:59:48,180 --> 01:59:53,910
few. Susan Johnson leads Liches
in Hillsboro, Oregon. Dame Susan

1958
01:59:53,910 --> 02:00:00,990
I believe. 100 bucks. Matthew
Anderson in West Roxbury. Excuse

1959
02:00:00,990 --> 02:00:06,480
me, Massachusetts $100 John de
carne in Alpharetta, Georgia 808

1960
02:00:07,470 --> 02:00:13,110
Scott mackynzie in Winslow
Cheshire UK 7943 Yeah, we need

1961
02:00:13,110 --> 02:00:15,660
to really get inside hood thing
going on. Yeah, so

1962
02:00:15,660 --> 02:00:16,440
I thought it might be good

1963
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:20,640
to try read it. Yeah, go read
read.

1964
02:00:20,820 --> 02:00:24,330
I read. I thought I might be
getting close to my knighthoods.

1965
02:00:24,330 --> 02:00:27,600
So I did some quick accounting
and turns out I was very close.

1966
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:31,890
I've just sent $79.43 for your
way to round up my long overdue

1967
02:00:31,890 --> 02:00:35,190
contribution to the roundtable.
I've been a listener since

1968
02:00:35,550 --> 02:00:41,640
episode number one. Wow, I guess
I'm proof that anyone can get to

1969
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:44,430
a knighthood with a regular
monthly donation along with one

1970
02:00:44,430 --> 02:00:47,370
offs here and there your show is
continues a continued source of

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02:00:47,370 --> 02:00:51,300
inspiration for my no agenda
novels and giblets. Yes. This is

1972
02:00:51,300 --> 02:00:54,300
Scott McKenzie, who has written
this several no agenda novels.

1973
02:00:54,300 --> 02:00:58,410
Look them up on Amazon. And long
may it continue. I have another

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02:00:58,410 --> 02:01:01,290
no agenda novel in the works
called the archivist.

1975
02:01:03,270 --> 02:01:05,880
You should it's funny when he
read sellers, the one I have

1976
02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:08,070
sitting here on my desk. Just
read

1977
02:01:08,130 --> 02:01:11,370
the red cell, which is good.
Yeah, that's a good one. But it

1978
02:01:11,370 --> 02:01:15,000
sounds like you may be the
subject of the next book, John.

1979
02:01:15,630 --> 02:01:18,690
Yeah, might be. I should be a
detective. The.

1980
02:01:20,310 --> 02:01:23,910
I don't know if that's what
you'll be. But you will be the

1981
02:01:23,910 --> 02:01:26,550
archivist. We'll see what
happens. I'd like to be known as

1982
02:01:26,550 --> 02:01:29,910
Sir Scott of The Chester plains.
And I'd like to request

1983
02:01:29,940 --> 02:01:35,250
footballers, wives and Prosecco
at the roundtable. Footballers

1984
02:01:35,250 --> 02:01:38,730
wives and Prosecco. All right.
He says Keep up the great work.

1985
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:43,080
Thank you for your courage. Just
put me add that to the table do

1986
02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:43,770
that for later.

1987
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:49,230
Let me call Abraham daily and
Raman main calling room service

1988
02:01:49,230 --> 02:01:53,280
spot 7510. He says there's a
note that I need to read because

1989
02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:56,100
this is kind of interesting,
because there's something I

1990
02:01:56,100 --> 02:02:02,370
posted like 20 years ago, I
noticed a spelling mistake in

1991
02:02:02,370 --> 02:02:07,620
the following line of your chili
recipe. Oh, this is a spicy bean

1992
02:02:07,620 --> 02:02:11,280
stew that shows off a mixture of
four distinct looking and

1993
02:02:11,280 --> 02:02:15,750
distinct tasting beans. The
first use of the word distinct

1994
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:27,090
is missing. Or is spelled wrong.
It's missing an N Okay, for that

1995
02:02:27,090 --> 02:02:31,800
update, I will change it at some
point in the future

1996
02:02:31,830 --> 02:02:34,440
and where can we find this chili
recipe?

1997
02:02:35,610 --> 02:02:38,970
I don't know it's on some it's I
haven't posted all over it.

1998
02:02:38,970 --> 02:02:39,210
Okay,

1999
02:02:39,210 --> 02:02:42,060
just say divorce divorce ex
chili recipe and it'll pop up

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02:02:42,060 --> 02:02:42,510
somewhere.

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02:02:43,349 --> 02:02:46,949
I give it a shot. Go on. You're
going to Googly and see if that

2002
02:02:46,949 --> 02:02:50,459
works. It might work because it
is it's here in there. I tried

2003
02:02:50,459 --> 02:02:50,519
it

2004
02:02:50,550 --> 02:02:56,790
well I use C or x of course
DeVore X chili recipe. Let's

2005
02:02:56,790 --> 02:03:00,630
see. So that's the meta search
there it is just add the Super

2006
02:03:00,630 --> 02:03:05,430
Bowl and beer Jhansi DeVore X
chili recipe 2014 right under

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02:03:05,430 --> 02:03:11,730
that obituaries I do not know I
got that third result.

2008
02:03:12,540 --> 02:03:16,950
Maybe people think the recipes
they think it's a killer. Yes

2009
02:03:16,950 --> 02:03:20,850
it gets a killer recipe. Oh, the
recipe Paul the recipe that won

2010
02:03:20,850 --> 02:03:22,920
the first Comdex Chili Cook Off

2011
02:03:23,580 --> 02:03:27,480
is it did all right. It has
beans which cause a huge

2012
02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:28,440
controversy

2013
02:03:28,470 --> 02:03:31,110
make make sure you spell beans
right?

2014
02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:36,780
Anyway Sir Paul from Twickenham
in Twickenham Middlesex UK 6969.

2015
02:03:36,780 --> 02:03:39,540
Robert marsh in hearts

2016
02:03:39,570 --> 02:03:43,110
Oh, he has he needs emergency
goats scream jobs karma at you

2017
02:03:43,110 --> 02:03:46,740
know, since we have a shortlist,
since we ever shortlist, I think

2018
02:03:46,740 --> 02:03:49,530
we can do that. Give it to him.
Okay, jobs,

2019
02:03:49,710 --> 02:03:53,070
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote.

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That's Robert Robert martial
arts. So

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Alabama's 16 martial Robert
natans basketball 6969 Baron

2022
02:04:05,670 --> 02:04:10,110
Mark Tanner buddy 6789 You got
to set up another la meetup so

2023
02:04:10,110 --> 02:04:16,350
we can chat. Paul moss in
Lansing, Michigan 6666. Another?

2024
02:04:17,099 --> 02:04:20,819
Another knighting Yeah, Dear
John and Adam with this donation

2025
02:04:20,819 --> 02:04:26,789
of 6666. That's double double 30
threes. For extra luck, my total

2026
02:04:26,789 --> 02:04:30,029
donation should reach the $1,000
mark to gain full knighthood, my

2027
02:04:30,029 --> 02:04:33,659
previous donation of 933 34 will
be attached in the follow up

2028
02:04:33,689 --> 02:04:36,989
email to provide validation upon
knighting I would like to

2029
02:04:36,989 --> 02:04:41,489
acquire the title of superfluous
of the best words superfluous

2030
02:04:41,489 --> 02:04:45,839
superfluous of the best words at
the roundtable. I request plenty

2031
02:04:45,869 --> 02:04:49,829
of bourbon and blunder buses in
the hope that hilarity and not

2032
02:04:49,829 --> 02:04:53,369
calamity will ensue from the
combination of set items. I do

2033
02:04:53,369 --> 02:04:56,459
not request any jingles or Karma
but do look forward to the

2034
02:04:56,459 --> 02:04:59,969
Michigan local one meetup on
Sunday, where I'm sure time

2035
02:04:59,999 --> 02:05:03,899
picks up many varieties will be
discussed. Those I gotta say

2036
02:05:03,899 --> 02:05:07,469
Michigan. There they are. They
have their own meetups regularly

2037
02:05:07,469 --> 02:05:11,849
this is a good idea. I'm sure
they all seem healthy. Also, I'm

2038
02:05:11,849 --> 02:05:15,029
glad to hear that Pat is no
longer a douchebag in the

2039
02:05:15,029 --> 02:05:17,999
morning. That Phil All right,
Phil, I'll see you at the

2040
02:05:17,999 --> 02:05:18,629
roundtable.

2041
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:27,840
Derek cope in Shanghai, China 66
Derek cope of NEOs NASCAR driver

2042
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:30,960
used to be named Derek coupon is
a fun thing to do with it. It's

2043
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:35,370
my second donation please. With
my son Jackson cope i Happy

2044
02:05:35,370 --> 02:05:39,960
birthday on the show next Sunday
as His birthday is March 13. You

2045
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:44,910
will be turning 13 and entering
young manhood. Also please wish

2046
02:05:44,910 --> 02:05:47,790
my smokin hot wife a Happy
anniversary 10th

2047
02:05:49,020 --> 02:05:51,240
March 23 All right, Derek, you
got it.

2048
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:55,500
Stephen Davidson it Oh lala
Washington 55 tennis for Tom

2049
02:05:55,500 --> 02:05:58,950
Darian de force Wisconsin double
nickels on the dime. 5510.

2050
02:05:59,220 --> 02:06:03,990
Michael gates 5280. Theodore
Kotek. Austin,

2051
02:06:04,020 --> 02:06:09,120
he needs a he needs a deducing
so I'd like to give that to you.

2052
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:13,620
Ben de douche said he really
enjoyed the Austin meetup

2053
02:06:13,620 --> 02:06:13,950
meetup.

2054
02:06:14,430 --> 02:06:19,140
Cool. He says fair that he's
five now the following people

2055
02:06:19,140 --> 02:06:23,760
are $50 donations name and
location if appropriate. Villa

2056
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:27,960
rial, Villa rial and Mercedes
Texas. Heather Rodriguez in

2057
02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:32,460
Stockton, California, Jonathan
Meyer in Xenia, Ohio. Aaron's

2058
02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:40,410
austender in Saskatoon,
Saskatchewan. He says he has a

2059
02:06:40,410 --> 02:06:45,180
note, note to listeners instead
of getting hopped up on Adderall

2060
02:06:45,330 --> 02:06:50,100
and listening to the show at 2x.
Eat a bunch of brownie edibles

2061
02:06:50,220 --> 02:06:52,500
and listen at one half x

2062
02:06:57,660 --> 02:07:01,200
that would be something sir
Matthew, Jenna's Riskin,

2063
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Chicago, Paul van de corte lar
and you oil midday Melbourne, my

2064
02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:13,950
mood and I imagine I'm out in
Holland, Todd Moore in

2065
02:07:13,980 --> 02:07:18,450
Arlington, Virginia. Diane Sacco
who's got a birthday coming up

2066
02:07:18,450 --> 02:07:25,680
to his first smokin hot husband
Trey 50. Victor Munoz Munoz in

2067
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:30,570
Miami, Florida. Andrew Martin in
Sydney, New South Wales and

2068
02:07:30,570 --> 02:07:35,250
nonnamous ScrumMaster. Oh,

2069
02:07:36,750 --> 02:07:41,880
yeah. Please tell Adam not to
stop talking about marijuana and

2070
02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:45,240
marijuana products on the show.
The no agenda hemp community

2071
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:49,650
needs its voice. Wait a minute.
I didn't know we had a no agenda

2072
02:07:49,650 --> 02:07:50,760
hemp community.

2073
02:07:51,630 --> 02:07:55,740
We probably do. Yeah. And word
Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee.

2074
02:07:55,740 --> 02:07:58,620
Jason deluzy Oh and Chadds Ford,
Pennsylvania. And last but not

2075
02:07:58,620 --> 02:08:07,590
least, sir. Brett. Sir Brett.
Farrell in OKC. Oklahoma City

2076
02:08:07,620 --> 02:08:10,110
want to thank all these folks
are helping producing keep the

2077
02:08:10,110 --> 02:08:14,640
show going show 1118 shortlist,
but meaning but

2078
02:08:14,639 --> 02:08:19,079
a good list. Yes, shortlist,
people. I do have a mate. Good.

2079
02:08:19,079 --> 02:08:22,139
Let me see if Stevie be missed
out on the last show needed

2080
02:08:22,139 --> 02:08:24,719
house finding karma. So let me
give that to him right now.

2081
02:08:26,339 --> 02:08:31,739
You've got karma. All right. So
we don't have any meetups to

2082
02:08:31,739 --> 02:08:37,049
promote at the time being. Is
there nothing further now in

2083
02:08:37,049 --> 02:08:38,969
March? I don't know if
anything's coming up in April.

2084
02:08:39,659 --> 02:08:43,319
So this is something people you
can organize and you know, once

2085
02:08:43,319 --> 02:08:47,579
the keeper and I get through
moving house, getting married,

2086
02:08:48,179 --> 02:08:52,379
resting for a second. I think
we're ready to travel. Where

2087
02:08:52,379 --> 02:08:57,899
should we go next? For a meet
I'm jumping house. After we get

2088
02:08:57,899 --> 02:09:00,449
out of hospital, we move house.

2089
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:04,680
Where should we go? Ospital. For
our house.

2090
02:09:04,770 --> 02:09:05,970
Where else should we go?

2091
02:09:07,230 --> 02:09:09,450
What's the what's what's a good
spicy Bekins?

2092
02:09:09,929 --> 02:09:13,109
Tennessee beckons. But they have
had a meet up.

2093
02:09:13,410 --> 02:09:15,690
I'd like to go somewhere but
they haven't had a meet up with

2094
02:09:15,990 --> 02:09:17,130
either of us. But there's

2095
02:09:17,129 --> 02:09:20,879
some states. There's some states
that have 00 meetups.

2096
02:09:21,450 --> 02:09:25,680
Well, how about Chicago? Or
Chicago relatives there?

2097
02:09:25,769 --> 02:09:31,199
Yes. Oh, that's not a bad idea.
Possibility. All right. Well,

2098
02:09:31,229 --> 02:09:35,729
we'll be taking requests for
proposals. So send your RFP

2099
02:09:35,790 --> 02:09:40,320
RFP? Yes. And the RFP, we're
looking for your RFPs you and

2100
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:41,400
the mmm

2101
02:09:41,429 --> 02:09:45,269
yeah, if possible, please give
us some give us some insight as

2102
02:09:45,269 --> 02:09:48,479
to why your state should be next
or your country for that matter.

2103
02:09:49,079 --> 02:09:52,199
will work on that. But of
course, we want to thank

2104
02:09:52,199 --> 02:09:54,989
everybody who supported us
today. The value for value

2105
02:09:54,989 --> 02:09:59,729
network, it continues to work
and survive, and we certainly

2106
02:09:59,729 --> 02:10:02,579
are proud Shadid also everybody
who came in under $50 on a lot

2107
02:10:02,579 --> 02:10:05,069
of our subscriptions, some
people like to remain anonymous.

2108
02:10:05,069 --> 02:10:08,039
That's our deal. Under 50 We
don't mention you everything

2109
02:10:08,039 --> 02:10:10,439
else above we do and we
appreciate it. Please remember

2110
02:10:10,439 --> 02:10:12,269
us for the next show, which will
be on Sunday.

2111
02:10:12,300 --> 02:10:15,720
VO rec.org/and A for

2112
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:17,640
those who need the jobs, karma
jobs,

2113
02:10:17,790 --> 02:10:20,370
jobs, jobs and jobs.

2114
02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:21,930
Let's vote for jobs.

2115
02:10:35,580 --> 02:10:38,790
Today is the seventh of March
2019. Here's our list for today.

2116
02:10:38,790 --> 02:10:41,550
Not too long. Douchebag Brianna
says Happy Birthday to her

2117
02:10:41,550 --> 02:10:45,270
boyfriend Bryce chunka. He
celebrates tomorrow. Dan Victor

2118
02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:48,570
surviving the media Happy
Birthday to his mom. Hey mom. It

2119
02:10:48,570 --> 02:10:51,300
was her birthday yesterday.
Derek cope says Happy Birthday

2120
02:10:51,300 --> 02:10:57,270
to his son, Jackson 13 on the
13th and same day Diane sago

2121
02:10:57,480 --> 02:11:01,410
says Happy Birthday to her
smokin hot husband trade Thom

2122
02:11:01,410 --> 02:11:04,560
Yorke and we say happy birthday
to everybody there from the best

2123
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:13,260
podcast in the universe. Yeah,
it's great, John. Sounds really

2124
02:11:13,260 --> 02:11:17,550
good. The recorder No, you
weren't you were kind of in key.

2125
02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:23,910
You know, that's my blade.
Postmodern? Yeah. Pick up the

2126
02:11:23,910 --> 02:11:25,470
blade. Pick up the blade.

2127
02:11:25,620 --> 02:11:26,730
I got it. I got here.

2128
02:11:26,910 --> 02:11:32,280
There it is. Okay. Ryan Hoskins.
Phil Moss, Scott McKenzie,

2129
02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:34,740
gentlemen, join us up here on
the podium next lecture and you

2130
02:11:34,740 --> 02:11:37,170
are about to join all of our
Knights and Dames here at the

2131
02:11:37,170 --> 02:11:39,270
roundtable the no agenda
roundtable of the Knights and

2132
02:11:39,270 --> 02:11:41,040
Dames thanks for your
contribution in the amount of

2133
02:11:41,040 --> 02:11:45,360
$1,000 or more and therefore, I
am proud to pronounce the K v.

2134
02:11:45,900 --> 02:11:50,520
Sir off guard knights of Orange
County sir purple Lewis have the

2135
02:11:50,520 --> 02:11:54,030
best words and Sir Scott of The
Cheshire plains for you

2136
02:11:54,030 --> 02:11:57,600
gentlemen we have at the round
table hookers and blow rent boys

2137
02:11:57,600 --> 02:12:00,930
and Chardonnay footballers wives
and Prosecco bourbon and blunder

2138
02:12:00,930 --> 02:12:04,230
buses, cookies and vodka
zucchini and meatloaf harlots

2139
02:12:04,230 --> 02:12:07,110
and Hound all beer and blondes,
bong hits and bourbon sparkling

2140
02:12:07,110 --> 02:12:11,880
cider and escorts ginger ale and
Germans and Germans durables,

2141
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:16,230
mutton and Mead. It's all of you
three of you, the trio head over

2142
02:12:16,230 --> 02:12:19,440
to nogen nation our comm slash
rings Eric show will take care

2143
02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:21,840
of you. We'll get those out to
you as soon as possible. Wear

2144
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:26,550
them with pride. Show everyone
that you are a night. And for

2145
02:12:26,550 --> 02:12:30,390
those of you who would like to
join the lineup for next show on

2146
02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:38,880
Sunday, dvorak.org/ma. And pa
Oh, I have a new Hummer clip.

2147
02:12:40,650 --> 02:12:45,690
Oh, yes. Yeah, Jill Abramson
still does the rounds. For those

2148
02:12:45,690 --> 02:12:50,790
of you listening at the half
speed. After the edibles, you'll

2149
02:12:50,790 --> 02:12:51,360
enjoy it.

2150
02:12:51,390 --> 02:12:57,540
Facebook plays a huge role in
siloing, the audience for news

2151
02:12:57,540 --> 02:13:03,210
because the almighty algorithm,
you know, it values, what you

2152
02:13:03,210 --> 02:13:06,780
click on and what you share. So
what you like and what you

2153
02:13:06,780 --> 02:13:10,950
share. And so it keeps feeding
you what you like you'll like

2154
02:13:10,950 --> 02:13:14,580
and what you'll share and for
political news, that tends to

2155
02:13:14,580 --> 02:13:19,980
be, you know, news that reflects
your political outlaw got either

2156
02:13:20,250 --> 02:13:24,270
on the left or the right. Right.

2157
02:13:27,150 --> 02:13:31,590
Why does never, there's never
anyone who says, Do you know you

2158
02:13:31,590 --> 02:13:32,700
have vocal fry?

2159
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:37,440
I wondered that myself. In fact,
I tried to get an interview with

2160
02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:43,590
her publicist at Simon and
Schuster. And and, you know,

2161
02:13:43,590 --> 02:13:49,110
podcast or wait, really? Yeah,
well, she's got a long list.

2162
02:13:49,110 --> 02:13:52,770
She's got a lot age. She's got a
lot on her table. Maybe wouldn't

2163
02:13:52,770 --> 02:13:56,130
get you some other authors. And
so I said, Yeah, Stephen King,

2164
02:13:56,130 --> 02:13:58,050
I'd love to talk to him. Funny.

2165
02:13:59,940 --> 02:14:05,100
Wow, kind of denied. Did you but
did you did you say that? This

2166
02:14:05,100 --> 02:14:09,090
is not just any podcast. It's
the best podcast in the

2167
02:14:09,090 --> 02:14:09,870
universe.

2168
02:14:10,440 --> 02:14:12,990
I play golf every I do
everything I can as always,

2169
02:14:12,990 --> 02:14:17,130
like, you know, well. Other
people that it'll list need to

2170
02:14:17,130 --> 02:14:21,840
have a Podunk radio station in
let me ask your question. So and

2171
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:24,480
she has a higher priority than
any podcast

2172
02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:29,730
question. You want to see we can
prove a point. And just ask our

2173
02:14:29,730 --> 02:14:33,570
producers to write to the
publisher and request the Jill

2174
02:14:33,570 --> 02:14:36,450
Abramson interview for this
podcast.

2175
02:14:38,250 --> 02:14:41,790
No, and why is that because I
would like to work with this

2176
02:14:41,790 --> 02:14:45,360
publicist for a while before
Okay, that's too bad. The screws

2177
02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:45,720
to her.

2178
02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:49,230
Okay. All right, too bad. I
understand. Makes sense. Well,

2179
02:14:49,230 --> 02:14:52,800
I'll tell you this. There is a
here's to re interview I'd like

2180
02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:56,340
to get a hold do and if you find
a way to push this one, he had

2181
02:14:56,340 --> 02:15:05,310
this better. Bill Shatner Ah, I
just want to push me to get do

2182
02:15:05,310 --> 02:15:08,370
an interview. Do it with William
Shatner. He's on Twitter. He's

2183
02:15:08,370 --> 02:15:12,570
serious. There's big geezers
amenable to being pounded I

2184
02:15:12,570 --> 02:15:17,010
think but he's got a he's got a
frontman I've dealt with this

2185
02:15:17,010 --> 02:15:20,370
guy before is the is the
gatekeeper? I can't remember

2186
02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:23,820
no I knew two guys who could
make one call and get him for

2187
02:15:23,820 --> 02:15:26,880
you. The problem is one is oh
yeah one is dead the other one's

2188
02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:35,130
in jail but those two either one
of those guys made the call so

2189
02:15:35,130 --> 02:15:38,760
who's the front guy? Oh, well
have the producers swamped

2190
02:15:39,570 --> 02:15:42,390
he's right you're gonna have to
find some bypasses you got to

2191
02:15:42,390 --> 02:15:44,760
get around these front because
the front guys are no good. They

2192
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:48,720
tend to be just gatekeepers. Now
not gonna happen. You're not

2193
02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:49,830
gonna do any bright. You've
tried.

2194
02:15:49,860 --> 02:15:52,710
You've tried. You've tried as a
podcast or you've tried to get

2195
02:15:52,710 --> 02:15:55,230
to Bill Shatner. Yeah.

2196
02:15:55,260 --> 02:15:56,100
Oh absolutely.

2197
02:15:56,160 --> 02:15:59,820
And you're on first name basis
bill like Bob Muller but yet you

2198
02:15:59,820 --> 02:16:01,110
can't get them to come on the
show.

2199
02:16:01,860 --> 02:16:08,070
Bill to No, no, I can't I can't
get a hold of him because you

2200
02:16:08,070 --> 02:16:08,730
got he's got this

2201
02:16:08,730 --> 02:16:12,180
front gatekeeper. Okay. Bill is
also in his 80s I think now,

2202
02:16:12,180 --> 02:16:12,540
isn't it?

2203
02:16:13,380 --> 02:16:16,140
Yeah, but he's still pretty
lively. Be a great interviewer

2204
02:16:16,170 --> 02:16:20,580
no kidding maybe. Ray terrible,
great for me 90 But he is he he

2205
02:16:20,580 --> 02:16:24,870
is himself an interviewer and he
prides himself as being good at

2206
02:16:24,870 --> 02:16:26,430
it. So might be fun.

2207
02:16:28,860 --> 02:16:34,590
Okay, what do I have here? Yes,
I have oh, this was

2208
02:16:34,590 --> 02:16:36,660
a way I should point this out.
People are always you guys

2209
02:16:36,660 --> 02:16:41,310
should do more interviews, do
successful interviewers. And

2210
02:16:41,310 --> 02:16:44,610
there's plenty of them out
there. They're not successful

2211
02:16:44,610 --> 02:16:47,820
because of their style or
whether they're famous or it's

2212
02:16:47,820 --> 02:16:52,740
because they all have with
almost no exceptions. Fabulous

2213
02:16:52,770 --> 02:16:58,020
Booker's. Yes. Who have big
giant Rolodex,

2214
02:16:58,050 --> 02:17:03,900
yes. Also known as the address
book these days. Well, Rolodex

2215
02:17:03,900 --> 02:17:05,730
is somewhat outdated, but yes,

2216
02:17:06,119 --> 02:17:09,569
it does what it's called now and
yeah, that Booker's and we have

2217
02:17:09,569 --> 02:17:12,749
no Booker's. And so, you know,
if there's any Booker's out

2218
02:17:12,749 --> 02:17:14,549
there that want to help us,
that'd be great, but I don't

2219
02:17:14,549 --> 02:17:19,379
think we have any Booker's that
listen to the show. We do have

2220
02:17:19,379 --> 02:17:21,599
pretty good Booker's silicon
spin for a while

2221
02:17:21,630 --> 02:17:24,120
we do have literary agents we
have that.

2222
02:17:25,139 --> 02:17:27,989
Literary agents are okay, but
you most authors aren't that

2223
02:17:28,379 --> 02:17:31,469
interesting to speak with.
Right? To be honest about it.

2224
02:17:31,859 --> 02:17:32,279
Yeah.

2225
02:17:33,420 --> 02:17:36,660
Well, you know, 111 thing to do
is, you know, you could finish a

2226
02:17:36,660 --> 02:17:39,840
book and then go on all kinds of
other shows and get interviewed

2227
02:17:39,870 --> 02:17:43,860
and, you know, make the show
better that way. Because you'd

2228
02:17:43,860 --> 02:17:45,180
be the guy that we're going
every pot

2229
02:17:45,450 --> 02:17:47,640
work, I can't hear you. All
right.

2230
02:17:48,270 --> 02:17:50,190
How about a Venezuela update,
John?

2231
02:17:51,030 --> 02:17:52,830
Yeah. How about a Venezuela
update?

2232
02:17:53,219 --> 02:17:55,169
We're gonna begin tonight with
the very latest out of that, as

2233
02:17:55,169 --> 02:17:59,759
well as the US continues to try
and push forward seemingly

2234
02:18:00,029 --> 02:18:04,439
appointed President Juan guaido,
while at the same time trying to

2235
02:18:04,469 --> 02:18:09,539
take down the Maduro regime. The
plan, however, seems to be

2236
02:18:09,539 --> 02:18:13,229
hitting roadblocks, both from a
from an operational perspective

2237
02:18:13,229 --> 02:18:16,289
as well as from a PR
perspective, as the State

2238
02:18:16,289 --> 02:18:19,829
Department takes issue with
reporters for not writing the

2239
02:18:19,829 --> 02:18:24,929
Venezuela story, the way that
they want it to be told. That's

2240
02:18:24,959 --> 02:18:28,289
verbatim by the way we're going
to show you. We have several

2241
02:18:28,289 --> 02:18:32,609
reports tonight, both on
Venezuela and on Elliott Abrams.

2242
02:18:33,119 --> 02:18:36,179
And we're going to begin with RT
correspondent Dan Cohen.

2243
02:18:38,010 --> 02:18:40,920
Sanctions have been called the
silver bullet of the American

2244
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:44,250
national security arsenal, and
will they failed to topple

2245
02:18:44,250 --> 02:18:47,970
Nicolas Maduro so far? Now the
Trump administration is

2246
02:18:47,970 --> 02:18:51,570
threatening to level sanctions
against international banks just

2247
02:18:51,570 --> 02:18:54,720
for doing business in Venezuela.
And a statement released

2248
02:18:54,720 --> 02:18:57,870
Wednesday morning, National
Security Adviser John Bolton

2249
02:18:57,870 --> 02:19:01,200
said, quote, The United States
is putting foreign financial

2250
02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:04,350
institutions on notice that they
will face sanctions for being

2251
02:19:04,350 --> 02:19:07,860
involved in facilitating
illegitimate transactions that

2252
02:19:07,860 --> 02:19:12,450
benefit Nicolas Maduro and his
corrupt network. This transition

2253
02:19:12,450 --> 02:19:16,380
what many call an outright coup
d'etat hasn't gone as Washington

2254
02:19:16,380 --> 02:19:19,470
envisioned, but the State
Department wants journalists to

2255
02:19:19,470 --> 02:19:22,470
call Juan guaido The interim
president anyway.

2256
02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:26,250
Now I wish I knew a little bit
more about these financial

2257
02:19:26,250 --> 02:19:30,210
sanctions because it's not
really reported in any detail

2258
02:19:30,780 --> 02:19:34,470
because um, you know, this is
clearly all sanctions hurt

2259
02:19:34,470 --> 02:19:37,050
people it is a form of warfare.
And yes

2260
02:19:37,050 --> 02:19:39,600
this style of said from I
understand by the way, I want to

2261
02:19:39,600 --> 02:19:41,790
mention something that is
preface to this clip and the

2262
02:19:41,790 --> 02:19:46,440
next one. This is our tea, which
I'm going to for these clips

2263
02:19:46,440 --> 02:19:51,150
because our tea Russians on the
side of Maduro Yes. So this is

2264
02:19:51,150 --> 02:19:54,660
going to be a skewed report that
I think you're going to get more

2265
02:19:54,660 --> 02:19:58,260
information from knowing it's a
skewed report, right, you're

2266
02:19:58,260 --> 02:20:00,870
gonna get from the mainstream.
Oh, there was For sure standing

2267
02:20:00,870 --> 02:20:04,710
is that these are the are these
targeted sanctions where you

2268
02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:08,760
find some rich guy was like
loaded, made a lot of money out

2269
02:20:08,760 --> 02:20:12,720
of the regime and he's got bank
accounts and in New York and you

2270
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:13,710
know and yeah so

2271
02:20:14,460 --> 02:20:16,710
yeah so they seize his assets
basically

2272
02:20:17,580 --> 02:20:20,370
the Russian oligarchs Yeah, same
same thing.

2273
02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:23,340
It's a great system. We're very
good at Bitcoin. We're the best

2274
02:20:23,340 --> 02:20:29,160
go Bitcoin. Okay. Yeah, we know
it will break up this report. I

2275
02:20:29,160 --> 02:20:32,820
have a report from your own
news, which has a different

2276
02:20:32,820 --> 02:20:38,460
slant on it. But as far as I can
tell, this guaido has zero

2277
02:20:38,460 --> 02:20:39,120
power.

2278
02:20:39,210 --> 02:20:42,960
Daniel Karina had only been in
his job for a year. Now. He's

2279
02:20:42,960 --> 02:20:46,620
been told to quit Germany's
Embassy in Caracas. The sanction

2280
02:20:46,620 --> 02:20:49,710
came after he joined a group of
diplomats that welcomed self

2281
02:20:49,710 --> 02:20:53,430
proclaimed leader Juan guaido.
On his return to Venezuela on

2282
02:20:53,430 --> 02:20:57,000
Monday. guaido condemned the
expulsion when he addressed

2283
02:20:57,000 --> 02:21:00,300
Venezuela's opposition
controlled National Assembly.

2284
02:21:00,480 --> 02:21:03,000
They are threatening an
important European country,

2285
02:21:03,000 --> 02:21:06,870
which is helping Venezuela in a
humanitarian way. It's important

2286
02:21:06,870 --> 02:21:09,510
that the people of Venezuela
know that not only are they

2287
02:21:09,510 --> 02:21:12,150
blocking the burning, they're
also verbally threatening

2288
02:21:12,180 --> 02:21:13,740
whoever is helping Venezuela.

2289
02:21:14,040 --> 02:21:17,760
Germany has joined most Western
nations in recognizing guaido as

2290
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:21,720
Venezuela's legitimate head of
state, but President Nicolas

2291
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:25,260
Maduro is government accuses
Karina of interfering in the

2292
02:21:25,260 --> 02:21:28,890
country's foreign affairs. A
statement from Maduro is foreign

2293
02:21:28,890 --> 02:21:31,980
ministry said Venezuela would
not accept a foreign diplomat

2294
02:21:32,280 --> 02:21:35,760
acting in clear alignment with
the conspiracy agenda of

2295
02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:39,180
extremist sectors of the
Venezuelan opposition.

2296
02:21:39,360 --> 02:21:45,060
Sounds like guaido has no power
where we're just kicking anybody

2297
02:21:45,060 --> 02:21:45,720
out they want.

2298
02:21:46,770 --> 02:21:49,170
Well, this is getting
ridiculous. But let's play part

2299
02:21:49,170 --> 02:21:50,520
two of this RT report.

2300
02:21:51,240 --> 02:21:54,600
We have noticed in news coverage
that some outlets are

2301
02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:59,850
incorrectly referring to Juan
guaido as the opposition leader

2302
02:22:00,720 --> 02:22:06,480
or the self proclaimed
president. Neither is correct to

2303
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:09,810
refer to it one guy knows
anything. When interim president

2304
02:22:09,810 --> 02:22:12,660
falls into the narrative of a
dictator.

2305
02:22:13,650 --> 02:22:16,200
Don't tell that to the White
House, which has dropped the

2306
02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:19,800
interim tag altogether. And now
calls Juan guaido, the

2307
02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:23,040
legitimate president of
Venezuela, but journalists

2308
02:22:23,040 --> 02:22:25,290
aren't following the State
Department's orders.

2309
02:22:25,619 --> 02:22:28,799
You're complaining because us
outlets are calling him by a

2310
02:22:28,799 --> 02:22:30,059
title that you don't think that

2311
02:22:30,060 --> 02:22:33,690
he not complaining? Pointing out
just trying to correct technical

2312
02:22:33,690 --> 02:22:34,320
it sounds like

2313
02:22:34,320 --> 02:22:36,570
a complaint to me. And that
seems pretty weak sauce. I don't

2314
02:22:36,570 --> 02:22:39,750
understand what your what what
your problem was. I mean,

2315
02:22:39,839 --> 02:22:43,169
he is he's the he's the interim
president. Well, and we don't

2316
02:22:43,169 --> 02:22:43,949
want to consider

2317
02:22:43,950 --> 02:22:47,190
him to be the interim president
and as you say, 50 other

2318
02:22:47,190 --> 02:22:50,580
countries outside of recognize
him as the interim president.

2319
02:22:51,330 --> 02:22:55,380
But there are more than 190
members of the United Nations.

2320
02:22:55,410 --> 02:23:00,150
So your 50 countries is not even
close to

2321
02:23:01,650 --> 02:23:05,820
what a AP journalist Matt Lee
said is true. There are 195

2322
02:23:05,820 --> 02:23:11,460
countries. Last I checked, 50 is
a lot less than half of 195. But

2323
02:23:11,460 --> 02:23:15,060
Senator Marco Rubio is taking
the pressure campaign to another

2324
02:23:15,060 --> 02:23:18,570
level. Firstly, chastise the
Wall Street Journal and

2325
02:23:18,570 --> 02:23:22,350
Washington Post, not exactly
staunch critics of US foreign

2326
02:23:22,350 --> 02:23:25,680
policy for using the terms
opposition leader and self

2327
02:23:25,680 --> 02:23:29,760
declared interim president to
describe guaido. Then Rubio

2328
02:23:29,760 --> 02:23:34,590
pondered if CNN is conspiring
with Moscow to undermine guaido

2329
02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:38,430
There's no telling what the US
will do next, or who it might

2330
02:23:38,430 --> 02:23:41,880
sanction, perhaps who will force
CNN and the Wall Street Journal

2331
02:23:41,880 --> 02:23:44,670
to register as foreign agents
just like this network.

2332
02:23:45,570 --> 02:23:49,350
Okay. Yeah. To our key dig at
the end. Well, first of all,

2333
02:23:49,500 --> 02:23:52,320
yeah, thanks for bringing Matt
Lee back to the show. That's

2334
02:23:52,320 --> 02:23:56,640
great. Yeah. What do you say?
Well, that's weak sauce. You

2335
02:23:56,640 --> 02:24:00,960
don't matter? Yeah. Oh, nice. I
got to start paying attention to

2336
02:24:00,960 --> 02:24:03,690
Matt now that he's he was on a
lot of planes. He was always

2337
02:24:03,690 --> 02:24:06,090
flying around. It wasn't at the
press briefings that much.

2338
02:24:06,539 --> 02:24:09,089
Yeah, it looks like he's back on
track. Well, that's good. That's

2339
02:24:09,089 --> 02:24:12,209
good. One last clip, which is
Abrams and genocide and

2340
02:24:12,209 --> 02:24:15,689
Venezuela, which is also from RT
Elliott Abrams, the

2341
02:24:15,690 --> 02:24:19,050
Trump administration Special
Envoy to Venezuela is coming

2342
02:24:19,050 --> 02:24:23,490
under fire by a group of both
genocide survivors, as well as

2343
02:24:23,490 --> 02:24:27,300
family members of victims in
World War Two is Holocaust and

2344
02:24:27,300 --> 02:24:30,420
genocides in Latin America
during the 19th century. Now,

2345
02:24:30,420 --> 02:24:32,880
this has a lot to do with where
I'm standing. Right now. I'm at

2346
02:24:32,880 --> 02:24:36,840
the US Holocaust Memorial
Museum, and this group is

2347
02:24:36,840 --> 02:24:40,860
demanding that Abrams be removed
from the museum's Committee on

2348
02:24:40,860 --> 02:24:45,210
Conscience, of which Abrams has
been a member since 2009. In a

2349
02:24:45,210 --> 02:24:48,510
letter to the US Holocaust
Memorial Council, they claim

2350
02:24:48,510 --> 02:24:52,020
that Abrams is a quote proven
supporter of some of the world's

2351
02:24:52,020 --> 02:24:56,280
most nefarious perpetrators of
genocide and mass murderers for

2352
02:24:56,280 --> 02:25:00,210
nearly 40 years. The family
members also invoked his role In

2353
02:25:00,210 --> 02:25:04,020
US policy promoted by the Reagan
administration in Guatemala,

2354
02:25:04,110 --> 02:25:07,500
which was even defined as a
genocide by a Guatemalan court

2355
02:25:07,500 --> 02:25:12,510
last year, US backed death
squads kill 200,000 People in

2356
02:25:12,510 --> 02:25:15,990
Guatemala alone. Yeah, when he
was asked to answer for his role

2357
02:25:15,990 --> 02:25:19,380
in this massacre on Charlie
Rose, he simply laughed. And

2358
02:25:19,380 --> 02:25:23,550
some say he even pioneered the
strategy of using aid as a

2359
02:25:23,550 --> 02:25:27,360
Trojan horse delivering weapons
to us back forces, referring, of

2360
02:25:27,360 --> 02:25:30,900
course, to his overseeing the
smuggling of weapons through

2361
02:25:30,900 --> 02:25:35,430
Iran to Nicaragua and right wing
rebels. And Abrams even heralded

2362
02:25:35,430 --> 02:25:38,940
the decision to supply
Nicaraguan forces as a, quote,

2363
02:25:38,940 --> 02:25:43,050
big change in the right
direction. He said that violence

2364
02:25:43,050 --> 02:25:46,770
would increase because the
purpose of our aid is to permit

2365
02:25:46,770 --> 02:25:52,680
people who are fighting on our
side to use more violence. You

2366
02:25:52,680 --> 02:25:53,040
go,

2367
02:25:53,430 --> 02:25:57,840
you know, what are they doing?
What is the plan? I mean,

2368
02:25:57,870 --> 02:26:01,230
it's there's no plan, they just
expected this to work out. I

2369
02:26:01,230 --> 02:26:01,890
guess,

2370
02:26:02,490 --> 02:26:06,900
that, who was that high that
they thought seriously, that

2371
02:26:06,900 --> 02:26:11,280
would work? And, again, I'm not
again, this is old school

2372
02:26:11,280 --> 02:26:14,940
politicians thinking they can as
nicely head madly in their

2373
02:26:14,940 --> 02:26:18,990
thinking they can control the
message. The message is, this

2374
02:26:18,990 --> 02:26:22,560
guy is the President, we said so
all you little people go out

2375
02:26:22,560 --> 02:26:25,620
there and say, Yes, you heard
your own news is all in the

2376
02:26:25,620 --> 02:26:29,910
president. Every other
publication in the mainstream,

2377
02:26:29,910 --> 02:26:33,840
but the people the people know,
it's bull crap, what we're

2378
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:36,450
talking about it right now we're
circumventing all of that the

2379
02:26:36,450 --> 02:26:40,710
politicians really believe that
that stuff still works. But this

2380
02:26:40,710 --> 02:26:43,920
is what I'm afraid of. So when
they see it doesn't then what do

2381
02:26:43,920 --> 02:26:47,400
they do? And then there's
kinetics is like the what's

2382
02:26:47,400 --> 02:26:48,060
left?

2383
02:26:49,980 --> 02:26:51,420
Well verbalize man,

2384
02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:54,060
it's kinetics. Exactly.

2385
02:26:55,440 --> 02:26:56,670
Cyber law,

2386
02:26:56,820 --> 02:27:03,840
okay. I didn't have an
opportunity to clip I saw on CNN

2387
02:27:03,840 --> 02:27:12,120
International. So the Cuomo kid,
who I have to be honest, it's

2388
02:27:12,210 --> 02:27:16,140
against all better judgment.
He's kind of making a little

2389
02:27:16,140 --> 02:27:19,710
more sense these days. He's not
really as unhinged as I thought

2390
02:27:19,710 --> 02:27:24,450
he was. Now maybe I've just been
beaten down by, you know, the

2391
02:27:24,450 --> 02:27:28,650
European media into submission
of you know, maybe this this guy

2392
02:27:28,650 --> 02:27:32,100
is good. I don't know what it
was. But he had a whole thing

2393
02:27:32,100 --> 02:27:37,380
about this crazy amount of
migrants coming to the border

2394
02:27:37,410 --> 02:27:41,700
from the south. And and now it's
like, Wait a minute. This is the

2395
02:27:41,700 --> 02:27:45,090
upside down world. And you
didn't know the numbers were

2396
02:27:45,090 --> 02:27:48,510
escaped will scare you. And and
here's from the New York Times

2397
02:27:48,510 --> 02:27:52,590
from yesterday, border at
breaking point, as more than

2398
02:27:52,590 --> 02:27:57,420
76,000 unauthorized migrants
cross in a month.

2399
02:27:58,590 --> 02:28:01,710
Yeah, it's out of control. But
yeah, it's everyone was

2400
02:28:01,710 --> 02:28:04,560
saying that this was not true.
It's like it's down. It's the

2401
02:28:04,560 --> 02:28:09,150
lowest ever and now overnight,
because I follow we follow this.

2402
02:28:09,300 --> 02:28:13,440
We follow this all the time. You
and I paid pay attention to

2403
02:28:13,440 --> 02:28:18,810
this? Yeah, I don't know. So,
first couple of paragraphs, the

2404
02:28:18,810 --> 02:28:21,960
number of migrant families this
is important point. Crossing the

2405
02:28:21,960 --> 02:28:25,680
southwest border has once again
broken records with unauthorized

2406
02:28:25,680 --> 02:28:28,830
entries nearly double what they
were a year ago suggesting the

2407
02:28:28,830 --> 02:28:31,590
Trump administration's
aggressive policies have not

2408
02:28:31,590 --> 02:28:36,030
discouraged new migration to the
United States. First dig at

2409
02:28:36,030 --> 02:28:38,700
Trump right at the beginning,
the guy who says Build a wall,

2410
02:28:39,090 --> 02:28:42,030
more than 76,000 migrants
crossed the border without

2411
02:28:42,030 --> 02:28:46,830
authorization in February, an 11
year high and a strong sign that

2412
02:28:46,830 --> 02:28:50,550
stepped up prosecutions, new
controls on asylum and harsher

2413
02:28:50,550 --> 02:28:53,640
detention policies have not
reversed what remains a powerful

2414
02:28:53,640 --> 02:28:57,180
lewer for 1000s of families
fleeing violence and poverty.

2415
02:29:00,990 --> 02:29:04,590
Are they going through ports of
entry John?

2416
02:29:06,870 --> 02:29:10,230
It's never made clear. I think
they probably aren't. I mean, if

2417
02:29:10,290 --> 02:29:12,780
the point is somebody keeps
bringing this up, and I think

2418
02:29:12,780 --> 02:29:15,720
it's just a logical thing. It
sounds like our Kelly is you got

2419
02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:21,750
just think they do argument you
see these people just the

2420
02:29:21,750 --> 02:29:25,500
Liberals again, arguing with the
conservative saying, Well, you

2421
02:29:25,500 --> 02:29:29,130
know, the Conservatives making
the drug argument, which is what

2422
02:29:29,130 --> 02:29:32,580
Trump needs for his to use some
millet to one of that law that

2423
02:29:32,580 --> 02:29:36,360
you used. You pointed out the
drugs are coming across No, no.

2424
02:29:36,390 --> 02:29:37,050
Hey, us,

2425
02:29:37,050 --> 02:29:39,360
USC USC 10 284.

2426
02:29:40,470 --> 02:29:44,340
No, no, no, the liberals say
it's a known fact that all the

2427
02:29:44,340 --> 02:29:47,190
drugs that we're capturing are
coming through the points of

2428
02:29:47,190 --> 02:29:51,030
entry. And that's so that's the
place we got to beef up that the

2429
02:29:51,030 --> 02:29:54,270
rest of it is open border
doesn't mean anything. And the

2430
02:29:54,270 --> 02:29:58,050
counter argument is well, let's
see. If you have a choice

2431
02:29:58,050 --> 02:30:01,650
between going through a port of
entry or Just waltzing across a

2432
02:30:01,650 --> 02:30:06,210
big open wide space with your
illegal drugs. Which one would

2433
02:30:06,210 --> 02:30:10,860
you prefer? Done? There's no
counter argument to that.

2434
02:30:11,579 --> 02:30:14,279
End of this art or end of this
the first part of this article,

2435
02:30:14,459 --> 02:30:17,579
President Trump has used the
escalating numbers which they've

2436
02:30:17,579 --> 02:30:21,449
all denied up until now. I don't
know what's true anymore. But

2437
02:30:21,449 --> 02:30:24,689
okay. President Trump has used
the escalating numbers to

2438
02:30:24,689 --> 02:30:28,739
justify his plan to build an
expanded wall along the 1900

2439
02:30:28,739 --> 02:30:33,149
mile border with Mexico, but
says the New York Times, but a

2440
02:30:33,149 --> 02:30:37,199
wall would do little to slow
migration. Most immigration

2441
02:30:37,199 --> 02:30:41,489
analysts say while the exact
numbers are not known, many of

2442
02:30:41,489 --> 02:30:44,039
those apprehended along the
southern border, including the

2443
02:30:44,039 --> 02:30:47,519
1000s, who present themselves at
legal ports of entry surrender

2444
02:30:47,519 --> 02:30:50,939
voluntarily to Border Patrol
agents and eventually submit

2445
02:30:50,939 --> 02:30:56,189
legal asylum claims. So they do
go across illegally. Other

2446
02:30:56,189 --> 02:30:56,879
parts.

2447
02:30:57,509 --> 02:31:01,049
Yeah, of course, they do.
Nothing but says that's what you

2448
02:31:01,049 --> 02:31:05,849
do. You think about it, what
would you go stand in some line

2449
02:31:05,849 --> 02:31:10,499
to go across a T Awana. When you
can just waltz across somewhere

2450
02:31:10,529 --> 02:31:14,219
around Texas somewhere wherever
there's no, no, no protection

2451
02:31:14,219 --> 02:31:15,029
whatsoever.

2452
02:31:15,510 --> 02:31:19,110
The main problem is not one of
uncontrolled, massive scaling

2453
02:31:19,110 --> 02:31:23,340
fences. No humanitarian
challenge created as 1000s of

2454
02:31:23,340 --> 02:31:25,950
migrant families surge into
remote areas where the

2455
02:31:25,950 --> 02:31:29,730
administration has so far failed
to devote sufficient resources

2456
02:31:29,730 --> 02:31:35,220
to care for them as is required
under the law. Today's I mean,

2457
02:31:35,250 --> 02:31:38,430
this is the here's what here's
what I saw from a meta

2458
02:31:38,430 --> 02:31:40,920
perspective, because we've been
watching this, this is what you

2459
02:31:40,920 --> 02:31:45,330
and I do for the past months.
It's bull crap. It's really not

2460
02:31:45,330 --> 02:31:48,030
bad. It's ports of entry.
There's not a lot. It's

2461
02:31:48,030 --> 02:31:52,950
diminishing, it's going down.
And then overnight. Oh, my God,

2462
02:31:53,460 --> 02:31:58,560
it's here. Yet that wall was not
a good idea. Am I the only one

2463
02:31:58,560 --> 02:32:02,280
who's seeing it this way? That
they just switched their story?

2464
02:32:03,420 --> 02:32:06,660
They did switch the story, I
think I don't know why. Because

2465
02:32:06,660 --> 02:32:09,480
it's unavoidable. Because it's
crazy. I think it's because the

2466
02:32:09,480 --> 02:32:13,680
other story was working. Well,
then, yes. Drugs are going

2467
02:32:13,680 --> 02:32:16,680
through the legal ports of entry
all the drugs because nobody,

2468
02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:21,630
because the drug is the drug.
Guys are so stupid. Yeah, that's

2469
02:32:21,630 --> 02:32:28,650
what they do. It's just a very
vary. I don't know. It's some

2470
02:32:28,650 --> 02:32:30,840
sort of lie, lies.

2471
02:32:31,170 --> 02:32:34,170
Now. There was an interesting
show the other day here, and

2472
02:32:34,170 --> 02:32:37,080
they were talking about fake
news. And you have this term

2473
02:32:37,080 --> 02:32:40,230
fake news is not just something
we use. It's used in every

2474
02:32:40,230 --> 02:32:43,380
country around the world. It
does speak Dutch. No, say

2475
02:32:43,410 --> 02:32:47,700
Nabokov nueva over fake news
hubba and vata in house. So you

2476
02:32:47,700 --> 02:32:50,730
just hear the fake news that
using the English word, not the

2477
02:32:50,730 --> 02:32:54,840
Dutch word, which would be NET
News. No, they say fake news. So

2478
02:32:54,840 --> 02:32:58,860
it's a brand. But they but what
they call fake news, here is a

2479
02:32:58,860 --> 02:33:06,960
little different. Fake news here
is Russian bots. And a Shawn

2480
02:33:06,960 --> 02:33:12,210
provocateurs online. It's not
fake news about, you know, from

2481
02:33:12,210 --> 02:33:16,890
the mainstream. And they use
that consistently.

2482
02:33:18,990 --> 02:33:20,940
Good job. Marketing

2483
02:33:21,000 --> 02:33:23,370
is a very good marketing job
writing

2484
02:33:23,370 --> 02:33:30,390
up some fake writing to get
cheap clicks and Top Paid views,

2485
02:33:30,780 --> 02:33:37,980
writing up some fake propaganda
time here

2486
02:33:37,980 --> 02:33:42,870
is a report is your a news
report, the reporter is Russian

2487
02:33:42,870 --> 02:33:48,090
it'll take you about a sentence
to get into her accent. Because

2488
02:33:48,090 --> 02:33:51,960
there is new legislation in
Russia regarding fake news.

2489
02:33:51,990 --> 02:33:57,300
No more critics or jokes about
over the matter. Putin will be

2490
02:33:57,360 --> 02:34:00,990
allowed in internet, this is
probably how the nearest future

2491
02:34:01,050 --> 02:34:05,700
will look like as the Russian
lower house of parliament has

2492
02:34:05,700 --> 02:34:10,410
just adopted in the third
region, this very controversial

2493
02:34:10,530 --> 02:34:15,000
war. It bans any publication
that shows disrespect to the

2494
02:34:15,030 --> 02:34:18,630
state of the state's
institutions, the symbols of the

2495
02:34:18,630 --> 02:34:22,050
state like the Russian flag, for
example, the law enforcement

2496
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:26,370
agencies so basically all the
deputies, for example, and the

2497
02:34:26,370 --> 02:34:29,940
head of the state will be
protected by this law, those who

2498
02:34:29,940 --> 02:34:34,770
violated face huge fines and if
they repeatedly violated the

2499
02:34:34,770 --> 02:34:40,680
face up to 15 days in prison.
However, they will be given a

2500
02:34:40,680 --> 02:34:44,070
day in order to destroy and
delete this publication and what

2501
02:34:44,070 --> 02:34:48,900
does disrespectful mean?
Actually, the law makes it make

2502
02:34:48,930 --> 02:34:51,990
make us give the explanation
that they said that it could be

2503
02:34:52,020 --> 02:34:56,790
any publication that offends
human dignity and public

2504
02:34:56,820 --> 02:34:57,750
morality.

2505
02:34:58,830 --> 02:35:04,170
I'd say that's a pretty good All
for Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin.

2506
02:35:04,680 --> 02:35:07,980
By the way, this this reporter I
would have if I had an American,

2507
02:35:08,670 --> 02:35:12,420
no show on television, I'd had
her on. I think the accent is

2508
02:35:12,420 --> 02:35:17,220
fantastic. It's really a good
one. It's not anything you can

2509
02:35:17,220 --> 02:35:19,860
even imitate. It's so out there.

2510
02:35:20,250 --> 02:35:24,630
I'm not sure that you can't get
a handle on it. I don't think

2511
02:35:25,530 --> 02:35:29,850
it's really, it's definitely
it's definitely something. Well,

2512
02:35:29,880 --> 02:35:32,760
that's kind of interesting. Is
this a sedition laws?

2513
02:35:33,600 --> 02:35:36,150
censorship? Yeah, that Putin
just got sick of it. He's just

2514
02:35:36,150 --> 02:35:39,420
sick of that bullcrap. I guess
we just, you know, Trump

2515
02:35:39,930 --> 02:35:43,350
probably wishes he could do
that. Well, everybody had a

2516
02:35:43,350 --> 02:35:43,740
business.

2517
02:35:43,769 --> 02:35:46,049
I was going to ask you, I was
gonna ask you it has no one

2518
02:35:46,049 --> 02:35:49,469
picked this law up yet? In
because that would be exactly

2519
02:35:49,469 --> 02:35:54,119
what I'd asked my little MK
Ultra Mockingbird talking heads

2520
02:35:54,119 --> 02:35:57,179
to do is say, Here, read about
this law, because that's what

2521
02:35:57,179 --> 02:35:58,319
Trump wants to do here.

2522
02:35:59,130 --> 02:36:02,700
Yeah, that's coming, but this is
not on the rotation yet. I did

2523
02:36:02,700 --> 02:36:06,000
catch a an interesting clip
about, you know, they're still

2524
02:36:06,000 --> 02:36:10,200
talking about the finding ways
to investigate Trump and Nadler

2525
02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:12,960
is like, you know, going after
him and this is going to end

2526
02:36:12,960 --> 02:36:17,130
poorly for, I think a lot of
people not necessarily Trump,

2527
02:36:17,340 --> 02:36:20,790
but I want you to listen to
this. And then I want to comment

2528
02:36:20,790 --> 02:36:25,470
on this is the investigating
Trump in investigating Trump

2529
02:36:25,470 --> 02:36:27,450
insurance purposes Democracy
Now.

2530
02:36:27,509 --> 02:36:30,329
One week after Trump's former
personal lawyer and fixer

2531
02:36:30,329 --> 02:36:32,759
Michael Cohen delivered an
explosive congressional

2532
02:36:32,759 --> 02:36:35,939
testimony the New York Times is
reporting New York state

2533
02:36:35,939 --> 02:36:39,269
regulators are investigating
insurance claims and policies of

2534
02:36:39,269 --> 02:36:41,639
Trump's businesses. And if
subpoenaed the Trump

2535
02:36:41,639 --> 02:36:46,289
organization's insurance broker,
Aon Michael Cohen told lawmakers

2536
02:36:46,289 --> 02:36:49,739
last week, the Trump
Organization regularly inflated

2537
02:36:49,739 --> 02:36:52,529
the value of its assets for
insurance purposes. The news

2538
02:36:52,529 --> 02:36:55,709
comes one day after the House
Judiciary Committee requested

2539
02:36:55,709 --> 02:36:59,399
documents from 81 people and
groups and Trump's inner circle.

2540
02:37:00,060 --> 02:37:02,340
Wow. That's their strategy, huh?

2541
02:37:03,870 --> 02:37:08,280
Well, here's something because
this is just supposed to be a

2542
02:37:08,280 --> 02:37:12,450
scandal. And this is examples of
like millennials and also,

2543
02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:15,930
pupils never own property. No,
nothing's like Amy.

2544
02:37:18,390 --> 02:37:20,040
Amy's not a millennial.

2545
02:37:20,430 --> 02:37:25,260
No, but I said no, nothing.
inflating your insurance valid,

2546
02:37:25,290 --> 02:37:29,220
inflating the value of something
for insurance purposes, is what

2547
02:37:29,220 --> 02:37:35,130
you do. Yes. This is what you
do. It's not a scandal. Have you

2548
02:37:35,130 --> 02:37:38,130
ever watched the antiques
roadshow people, the guy will

2549
02:37:38,130 --> 02:37:40,410
give you the different price?
Well, the auction value is

2550
02:37:40,590 --> 02:37:45,450
$50,000. And the you probably
find it a retail setting for

2551
02:37:45,450 --> 02:37:50,910
$75,000. And for insurance
purposes, is valued at $100,000.

2552
02:37:51,180 --> 02:37:55,800
It's always like double the
actual value. You do that and

2553
02:37:55,800 --> 02:37:56,250
you pay

2554
02:37:56,250 --> 02:37:58,950
the rate you pay an increased
rate,

2555
02:37:59,609 --> 02:38:03,059
you pay an increased rate. So
what is scandalous about this?

2556
02:38:03,059 --> 02:38:08,579
This is general this is operate
to standard operating procedure.

2557
02:38:08,639 --> 02:38:13,529
It's not a scandal, but the way
she presents it is those oh my

2558
02:38:13,529 --> 02:38:18,209
god, he's he's it's a scandalous
this is again, it the example of

2559
02:38:18,209 --> 02:38:21,389
the earlier clip where you have
a businessman and versus a

2560
02:38:21,389 --> 02:38:24,959
politician. And it's like that's
what business people do. This is

2561
02:38:24,959 --> 02:38:26,549
what normal people do.

2562
02:38:26,610 --> 02:38:29,370
Yes, normal people. I wouldn't
you know, with that, I want to

2563
02:38:29,370 --> 02:38:29,580
hear it

2564
02:38:29,580 --> 02:38:32,610
again. One week after Trump's
former personal lawyer and fixer

2565
02:38:32,610 --> 02:38:35,070
Michael Cohen delivered an
explosive congressional

2566
02:38:35,070 --> 02:38:38,250
testimony. The New York Times is
reporting New York state

2567
02:38:38,250 --> 02:38:41,580
regulators are investigating
insurance claims and policies of

2568
02:38:41,580 --> 02:38:43,950
Trump's businesses. And if
subpoenaed the Trump

2569
02:38:43,950 --> 02:38:48,600
organization's insurance broker,
Aon Michael Cohen told lawmakers

2570
02:38:48,600 --> 02:38:52,020
last week that Trump
Organization regularly inflated

2571
02:38:52,020 --> 02:38:54,840
the value of its assets for
insurance purposes. The news

2572
02:38:54,840 --> 02:38:58,020
comes one day after the House
Judiciary Committee requested

2573
02:38:58,020 --> 02:39:01,650
documents from 81 people and
groups and Trump's inner circle.

2574
02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:04,230
Are you sure she's got the
information? Right? Is there not

2575
02:39:04,230 --> 02:39:08,160
like a second, a second part to
this expanded hours of

2576
02:39:08,190 --> 02:39:12,060
information? This is really that
was really what they're doing

2577
02:39:12,060 --> 02:39:17,820
word so and so there really are
there are prosecutors who are

2578
02:39:17,820 --> 02:39:23,220
investigating this actual legal
people. Like within the the

2579
02:39:23,220 --> 02:39:24,000
justice system,

2580
02:39:24,119 --> 02:39:27,179
I have no idea what they're
thinking. It's the stupidest

2581
02:39:27,179 --> 02:39:29,909
thing I've ever heard. And to
make it sound like it's some

2582
02:39:29,909 --> 02:39:33,389
scandal is beyond me. I mean,
how dumb are you?

2583
02:39:33,750 --> 02:39:37,110
But the the fact let me just let
me ask. Let me hear again, who's

2584
02:39:37,110 --> 02:39:37,560
doing that

2585
02:39:37,560 --> 02:39:40,290
one week after Trump's former
personal lawyer and fixer

2586
02:39:40,290 --> 02:39:42,720
Michael Cohen delivering
explosive congressional

2587
02:39:42,720 --> 02:39:45,930
testimony. The New York Times is
reporting New York state

2588
02:39:45,930 --> 02:39:48,900
regulators are investigating
Insurance Claim York state

2589
02:39:48,900 --> 02:39:53,220
regulators. So So that's so
that's not justice. That's a

2590
02:39:53,250 --> 02:39:55,440
politician enforcers.

2591
02:39:56,940 --> 02:40:01,050
Yeah, regulators. Regulators
would be Did they regulate

2592
02:40:01,050 --> 02:40:03,540
insurance companies? They don't
regulate people

2593
02:40:03,570 --> 02:40:06,960
Oh, I thought maybe it was
government regulators

2594
02:40:08,670 --> 02:40:10,860
they are government regulators
from New York State

2595
02:40:11,070 --> 02:40:14,310
okay, but it doesn't really say
what kind of rate and rigor okay

2596
02:40:14,310 --> 02:40:16,140
because it's insurance regulated
insurance

2597
02:40:16,140 --> 02:40:18,510
regulators say we have
commissions they have insurance

2598
02:40:18,570 --> 02:40:23,040
why would they be doing you
know, I hope someone from Iowa

2599
02:40:23,040 --> 02:40:29,100
maybe even the Moines or
Connecticut if it has to be can

2600
02:40:29,100 --> 02:40:32,010
send us some information about
this maybe there is something

2601
02:40:32,070 --> 02:40:38,310
weird about or not kosher so to
speak about inflating your asset

2602
02:40:38,310 --> 02:40:41,670
values for insurance rates I
don't see how it's a problem

2603
02:40:41,670 --> 02:40:44,100
either. But maybe we're missing
something

2604
02:40:44,609 --> 02:40:48,149
no you inflate them to make sure
that debt covered if something

2605
02:40:48,149 --> 02:40:51,449
bad happens and you pay that you
and pay you pay the money that

2606
02:40:51,449 --> 02:40:52,379
inflated rate

2607
02:40:52,380 --> 02:41:00,360
Yes, you pay it Exactly Okay,
that's bad. You're right. That's

2608
02:41:00,360 --> 02:41:01,890
it's it's a head shaker.

2609
02:41:02,790 --> 02:41:05,730
And it's like Did they did they
play this stuff straight when

2610
02:41:05,730 --> 02:41:09,330
they run these stores? She
doesn't unthinking kind of

2611
02:41:09,330 --> 02:41:12,150
reporting is just as worthy.
Rampant the whole kind of you

2612
02:41:12,150 --> 02:41:16,260
can't get anything. The news is
terrible. Yes.

2613
02:41:18,570 --> 02:41:21,390
Yeah, yeah, we can and if you
got one more clip that'll be our

2614
02:41:21,390 --> 02:41:22,020
last for the day.

2615
02:41:22,740 --> 02:41:27,540
This is the Birmingham school in
the UK, I think is a fun story

2616
02:41:27,540 --> 02:41:34,740
that LGBTQ Q A p, k k, whatever,
is they're gonna stop teach you

2617
02:41:34,740 --> 02:41:37,110
certain things in this book
because they're just fed up.

2618
02:41:37,350 --> 02:41:40,410
A primary school in Birmingham
has caved into pressure and

2619
02:41:40,410 --> 02:41:44,430
temporarily pulled the plug on
his lessons on LGBT rights.

2620
02:41:44,670 --> 02:41:47,220
That's after hundreds of parents
reportedly kept their children

2621
02:41:47,220 --> 02:41:50,970
at home in protest. Artis Polly
Boyka gives us the details.

2622
02:41:52,380 --> 02:41:57,540
Well, the cause of this route is
a educational diversity program

2623
02:41:57,540 --> 02:42:01,710
called No outsiders. And it aims
to teach kids about the

2624
02:42:01,710 --> 02:42:04,890
different types of families that
they might encounter. And

2625
02:42:04,890 --> 02:42:08,760
talking to them about things
like the idea of having two moms

2626
02:42:08,760 --> 02:42:13,710
or two dads and reading books to
kids as young as four about the

2627
02:42:13,710 --> 02:42:20,190
concept of same sex families.
devised by the Deputy Head of

2628
02:42:20,190 --> 02:42:24,600
the School at the center of this
route. His name is Andrew Moffat

2629
02:42:24,600 --> 02:42:29,190
and actually he's been nominated
for the world's best teacher

2630
02:42:29,220 --> 02:42:32,520
award. Take a look at him
talking about the program.

2631
02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:36,570
Mommy Lulu hooked her. And now
there are sick on both of them.

2632
02:42:37,290 --> 02:42:42,120
Mommy, Nina got some tissues and
write them. Now sizes about

2633
02:42:42,120 --> 02:42:46,020
teaching children that you are
different, but you can still be

2634
02:42:46,020 --> 02:42:49,710
friends with anybody. There's a
huge rise in hate driving last

2635
02:42:49,710 --> 02:42:53,310
year, we have to find ways to
teach children to talk to

2636
02:42:53,310 --> 02:42:54,450
counter that really.

2637
02:42:55,109 --> 02:42:58,739
But the majority of the parents
at this school are unhappy with

2638
02:42:58,739 --> 02:43:02,459
Andrew more fat teaching
methods. It's a predominantly

2639
02:43:02,609 --> 02:43:06,659
Muslim school and parents
fundamentally disagree with the

2640
02:43:06,659 --> 02:43:11,189
idea of teaching kids about
homosexuality and LGBT issues.

2641
02:43:11,399 --> 02:43:14,699
Some of our viewers might know
that Islam in Islam,

2642
02:43:14,699 --> 02:43:18,959
homosexuality is forbidden. So
up until now, the school had

2643
02:43:18,959 --> 02:43:22,889
really held firm and said that
they would continue this, what

2644
02:43:22,889 --> 02:43:27,179
they see as a very necessary
diversity program. But now a

2645
02:43:27,179 --> 02:43:30,989
number of media outlets are
saying that the school has sent

2646
02:43:30,989 --> 02:43:34,529
a letter to parents saying that
the lessons are going to be

2647
02:43:34,529 --> 02:43:36,179
stopped. Take a listen.

2648
02:43:36,960 --> 02:43:39,810
Up to the end of this term, we
will not be delivering any no

2649
02:43:39,810 --> 02:43:43,290
outsiders lessons in our long
term year curriculum plan. As

2650
02:43:43,290 --> 02:43:46,320
this half term has already been
blocked for religious education,

2651
02:43:46,680 --> 02:43:49,290
equality assemblies will
continue as normal and our

2652
02:43:49,290 --> 02:43:53,220
welcoming. No outsiders ethos
will be there for all oh

2653
02:43:53,220 --> 02:43:56,730
man, you did it. You did it
right at the end of the show.

2654
02:43:57,330 --> 02:43:59,580
That's really that's I'm
impressed. I'm impressed.

2655
02:44:03,750 --> 02:44:04,710
Wow,

2656
02:44:05,370 --> 02:44:08,370
the Muslim part blew me away.
Like what?

2657
02:44:08,610 --> 02:44:12,390
That's the thing that did is the
irony of the whole thing is Wow,

2658
02:44:13,410 --> 02:44:16,440
Muslims are pretty conservative
in some ways, and that's one of

2659
02:44:16,440 --> 02:44:18,780
them. And they're not putting up
with this crap as opposed to the

2660
02:44:18,780 --> 02:44:22,050
Christians who, who are cowed
into putting up with all of it.

2661
02:44:22,110 --> 02:44:26,040
You know, I I ordered the book,
and I started reading it. I did

2662
02:44:26,040 --> 02:44:32,640
not bring it with me raising
your transgender child. Very

2663
02:44:32,640 --> 02:44:33,240
interesting.

2664
02:44:34,350 --> 02:44:36,060
Oh, well, he had to give us a
ringtone.

2665
02:44:36,060 --> 02:44:39,840
I will be giving a book report.
Totally. I don't know if if you

2666
02:44:39,840 --> 02:44:42,390
want to take the time to read
it. But that's why I'm doing it

2667
02:44:42,390 --> 02:44:44,820
for you. But it's very
enlightening. And this is a book

2668
02:44:44,820 --> 02:44:50,130
that I know with certainty, as
some parents of trans to very

2669
02:44:50,130 --> 02:44:54,420
young transgender children are
reading. I wanted to understand

2670
02:44:54,420 --> 02:44:58,020
what they're reading, and it's
well worth discussing. But that

2671
02:44:58,020 --> 02:45:01,920
won't be until now. next week
because I'm still going to be

2672
02:45:01,920 --> 02:45:05,940
here on on Sunday. Tomorrow I
finally get to hang out with

2673
02:45:06,270 --> 02:45:11,310
with my daughter. And watch some
more EUROPEAN NEWS and watch it

2674
02:45:11,310 --> 02:45:13,980
unfold, see if I can learn
anything to share with the

2675
02:45:13,980 --> 02:45:14,310
group.

2676
02:45:15,360 --> 02:45:20,040
Great. always entertaining. Yes.
Thank you.

2677
02:45:20,100 --> 02:45:24,570
Thank you for that. Also, thank
you to Matt lazarey to Sai

2678
02:45:24,570 --> 02:45:28,110
Donington and Leo Laporte for
the end of show mixes.

2679
02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:33,720
appreciate it as always, and we
did not think I did not think

2680
02:45:33,720 --> 02:45:38,280
the troll room or the artist, so
I'll have to have the last show.

2681
02:45:38,610 --> 02:45:42,540
Somehow I missed that. So I'll
have to do that on Sunday Show

2682
02:45:42,870 --> 02:45:47,550
coming to you from the runway
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2683
02:45:48,180 --> 02:45:52,800
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2684
02:45:52,800 --> 02:45:58,140
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morning everybody. I'm Adam

2685
02:45:58,140 --> 02:45:58,590
curry

2686
02:45:58,949 --> 02:46:03,059
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's sunny today maybe

2687
02:46:03,059 --> 02:46:05,399
it's not raining for a while
it's been raining like crazy I'm

2688
02:46:05,399 --> 02:46:06,389
Jhansi Dvorak we

2689
02:46:06,390 --> 02:46:10,290
return on Sunday right here uh
no agenda make sure you're there

2690
02:46:10,290 --> 02:46:15,120
and remember the vorak.org/and
he joined the value for value

2691
02:46:15,120 --> 02:46:18,720
network the perks are
unbelievable. Until then adios

2692
02:46:18,720 --> 02:46:45,330
small photos and such it's been
a

2693
02:46:48,390 --> 02:46:58,830
spin any day letting people down
when I think you could be nicer

2694
02:46:58,860 --> 02:47:05,790
given a buck or five or 10 Dude
best podcast and you're never

2695
02:47:19,170 --> 02:47:28,230
like it really makes a big
difference. David some studies

2696
02:47:43,320 --> 02:47:50,730
Krista show was like no one's

2697
02:47:59,910 --> 02:48:20,670
30 on a small game makes the
table round table with other

2698
02:48:20,670 --> 02:48:28,050
nights and aims and hookers and
blow it's just water

2699
02:48:42,090 --> 02:48:47,100
we have 12 years on this planet
is gonna suffer irreversible

2700
02:48:47,130 --> 02:48:50,430
damage. I was considered crazy.
The world is gonna end in 12

2701
02:48:50,430 --> 02:48:53,610
years as far as private jets are
concerned than those well.

2702
02:48:55,290 --> 02:48:58,800
It was close to 12 years without
a major hurricane right after Al

2703
02:48:58,800 --> 02:49:01,140
Gore. It's all this we're going
to have cat treat us every year

2704
02:49:01,170 --> 02:49:03,630
and we're all going to adopt
they told us back then that we

2705
02:49:03,630 --> 02:49:06,630
had about 10 years and that was
14 years ago now and now they

2706
02:49:06,630 --> 02:49:08,700
have started a new timeline.
They started the clock over

2707
02:49:08,700 --> 02:49:11,130
again. It's like turning the
hourglass upside down that you

2708
02:49:11,130 --> 02:49:13,950
know Margaret Hamilton with a
flying monkey next door.

2709
02:49:14,010 --> 02:49:20,250
This is for real. It is not made
up. weeks ago,

2710
02:49:20,520 --> 02:49:23,340
it was a breeze outside.

2711
02:49:25,020 --> 02:49:35,130
We have 12 years to turn this
around we need some global

2712
02:49:35,130 --> 02:49:38,340
warming. It's freezing. We're
going to die in the day. You're

2713
02:49:38,340 --> 02:49:48,210
all gonna use your time wisely.
Watch Spaceballs.

2714
02:49:48,300 --> 02:50:00,960
Haha grim, grim for the Schwartz
be with you MoPhO

2715
02:50:00,989 --> 02:50:07,679
vortrag.org/in A no agenda facts